TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 5, 2023
9:00 A.M.
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09:03:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY.
09:03:06AM WELCOME TO 2023.
09:03:09AM WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE FOR INVOCATION TODAY.
09:03:16AM SO CAN WE PLEASE RISE FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
09:03:19AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
09:03:40AM THANK YOU.
09:03:40AM JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:03:42AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:03:50AM THANK YOU.
09:03:50AM PLEASE BE SEATED.
09:03:51AM ROLL CALL.
09:03:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:03:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:03:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:04:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:04:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:04:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:04:04AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:04:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:04:07AM MR. SHELBY.
09:04:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF
09:04:14AM COUNCIL.
09:04:14AM HAPPY NEW YEAR.
09:04:15AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:04:17AM WITH REGARD TO THE COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY AND THE
09:04:21AM FACT THAT THIS CAN BE SEEN VIRTUALLY AND PARTICIPATION
09:04:25AM VIRTUALLY AND IN PERSON.
09:04:26AM WHAT I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO DO TO WAIVE YOUR RULES TO MAKE
09:04:30AM IT CONSISTENT --
09:04:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:04:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: -- CONSISTENT WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE
09:04:36AM AGENDA AND CITY OF TAMPA'S WEB PAGE AT TAMPA.GOV.
09:04:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
09:04:44AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:04:46AM OPPOSED.
09:04:46AM THANK YOU.
09:04:47AM MOTION FOR ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.
09:04:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:04:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
09:04:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
09:04:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HATE TO INTERRUPT, SIR, BUT REMIND YOU THAT
09:05:00AM YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ADOPT THE MINUTES OF THE EVENING
09:05:03AM SESSION ARE ALSO INCLUDED.
09:05:04AM THE REGULAR SESSION AND THEN THE EVENING SESSION.
09:05:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:05:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:05:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:05:12AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:05:15AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:05:16AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:05:18AM THANK YOU.
09:05:18AM OKAY.
09:05:22AM LET'S GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
09:05:27AM DO WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM -- GO AHEAD.
09:05:34AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: REAL QUICKLY, RELATIVE TO THE AGENDA, MORRIS
09:05:38AM MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
09:05:39AM ITEM 56 IS A BUDGET RESOLUTION.
09:05:41AM THAT NEEDS TO BE MOVED TO JANUARY 19, BECAUSE YOU ALL NEED
09:05:45AM TO HEAR AND TAKE ACTIONS AS A CRA BOARD BEFORE THE MONEY IS
09:05:49AM MOVED BY YOU AS CITY COUNCIL.
09:05:51AM WE WILL ASK THAT ITEM 56 BE CONTINUED UNTIL JANUARY 19.
09:05:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 56.
09:06:02AM TO JANUARY 19, 2023.
09:06:06AM YES.
09:06:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:06:09AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:06:11AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:06:12AM THANK YOU.
09:06:13AM I DO BELIEVE THERE IS ITEM 62 THAT IS BEING ASKED TO BE
09:06:19AM PULLED BY STAFF.
09:06:21AM AND THIS WILL BE HEARD AT -- AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:06:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:06:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:06:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:06:35AM MR. SHELBY.
09:06:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:06:40AM COUNCIL, JUST A REMINDER WITH REGARDS TO ITEM 80-84.
09:06:45AM THOSE ARE THE FIVE ORDINANCES FOR SECOND READING FOR THE
09:06:48AM CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
09:06:49AM THAT IS TO HAVE THOSE ITEMS PLACED ON THE BALLOT IN MARCH.
09:06:53AM THERE IS A DEADLINE FOR GETTING THOSE ITEMS TO THE
09:06:58AM SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS IF THAT IS WHAT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE
09:07:02AM IS, AND THAT IS PRESENTED TO THE MAYOR FOR HER
09:07:06AM CONSIDERATION.
09:07:06AM SO THAT BEING THE CASE, COUNCIL, I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU,
09:07:11AM THESE CAN BE HEARD ANY TIME AFTER 9:30 A.M.
09:07:14AM AND TIME FRANKLY IS OF THE ESSENCE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
09:07:17AM SO THE -- THE TIME CLOCK IS RUNNING.
09:07:19AM SO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO CONSIDER TAKING THEM UP EARLY SO
09:07:23AM THAT THE CHAIR CAN WORK WITH THE CLERK TO EXPEDITE THESE --
09:07:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:07:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVEN'T FINISHED.
09:07:31AM I NEED THE MOTION -- OR WHATEVER THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IS,
09:07:35AM FRANKLY.
09:07:35AM WHAT I AM ASKING COUNCIL IS THAT -- THAT THE ITEMS BE TAKEN
09:07:41AM UP BEFORE LUNCH -- LET ME FINISH MY THOUGHT ON THIS -- SO
09:07:45AM THAT WHAT CAN HAPPEN IS THE CHAIR CAN WORK WITH THE CLERK TO
09:07:50AM EXPEDITE THIS MATTER OF GETTING IT ON THE MAYOR'S DESK FOR
09:07:53AM HER CONSIDERATION.
09:07:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:07:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ADD THAT WE CAN PUT IT AS ITEM 3.
09:08:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:08:04AM MOVE IT UP AND IT WILL BE DONE.
09:08:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WILL BE 9:30 FROM THEM.
09:08:10AM >> A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
09:08:16AM MANISCALCO.
09:08:16AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:08:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:08:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE STILL ON THE CONSENT AGENDA --
09:08:31AM CONSENT AGENDA.
09:08:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIR, DID YOU WANT TO REVIEW THE STAFF
09:08:39AM REPORTS?
09:08:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR RIGHT NOW.
09:08:42AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:08:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE -- LET'S GO WITH AGENDA ITEM
09:08:53AM NUMBER 3.
09:08:54AM THAT IS A RESOLUTION.
09:09:02AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.
09:09:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PARDON?
09:09:15AM I AM SORRY -- NO, THEY HAVEN'T.
09:09:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVEN'T.
09:09:18AM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH NOW.
09:09:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO THE QUESTION THEN, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS
09:09:24AM STAFF NEEDED FOR NUMBER 3?
09:09:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, I AM GOOD.
09:09:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE GOOD?
09:09:31AM EVERYONE GOOD?
09:09:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK MR. BAIRD, WITH THESE CONTRACTS,
09:09:40AM THESE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
09:09:42AM WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THE NUMBERS.
09:09:43AM THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
09:09:44AM AND I THINK HE CAN DO IT UNDER THREE WITH FOUR, FIVE.
09:09:48AM I THINK HE CAN GET THAT DONE AND SIX.
09:09:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO WE ARE KEEPING ALL OF THEM?
09:09:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEP.
09:09:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NUMBER 7?
09:10:02AM NUMBER 8?
09:10:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S ME.
09:10:06AM SO WE CAME UP AND I -- AND I SEE CHIEF TRIPP HERE AND 754 IS
09:10:14AM HERE AS WELL FOR THIS WITH A COMPROMISE, I BELIEVE, WHERE
09:10:18AM THE OVERALL ISSUE ON THE SUPPORT OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER
09:10:21AM PLAN WILL BE CONTINUED UNTIL FEBRUARY 23, 2023.
09:10:25AM BUT CHIEF TRIPP AND 754 WILL BE HERE TO SPEAK ON NORTH TAMPA
09:10:31AM AND THE STATUS OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
09:10:33AM NOT THE REPORT OF IT.
09:10:34AM THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED.
09:10:36AM BUT THAT IS THE -- MY CHIEF -- I DON'T KNOW IF HIS --
09:10:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF TRIPP, ARE YOU GOOD WITH GIVING THE
09:10:47AM REPORT ON DISTRICT 7 AND TALKING ABOUT THE STATUS?
09:10:52AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES.
09:10:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY GOOD.
09:10:57AM MAY I MAKE A MOTION ON THE OVERALL MASTER SAFETY PLAN.
09:11:00AM IT WILL BE DISCUSSED BUT THE ACTUAL REPORTING WILL BE DONE,
09:11:03AM IF I MAY, FEBRUARY 23 -- FEBRUARY 2 OF -- SORRY, FEBRUARY
09:11:10AM 23, 2023.
09:11:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:11:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA SECONDED BY
09:11:17AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:11:17AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:11:18AM THANK YOU.
09:11:19AM AGENDA ITEM 9 BEING ASKED TO BE REMOVED.
09:11:22AM >> MOTION.
09:11:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
09:11:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:11:27AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:11:28AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:11:29AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, COUNCILMAN VIERA, THAT IS YOUR?
09:11:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, WE CAN -- GLAD TO SEE IN GO THROUGH
09:11:36AM OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE DON'T NEED A REPORT OR ANYTHING ON IT.
09:11:39AM WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
09:11:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:11:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECONDED BY
09:11:44AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:11:45AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:11:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: SAME FOR 11, SIR.
09:11:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SAME FOR 11.
09:11:51AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:11:52AM SECONDED BY -- BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:11:55AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:11:56AM THANK YOU.
09:11:57AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:12:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, I WANT TO HEAR THAT REPORT.
09:12:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:12:04AM NUMBER 13.
09:12:07AM THAT IS BEING ASKED TO MOVED UNTIL JUNE 22, 2023.
09:12:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:12:15AM >> SECOND.
09:12:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:12:18AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:12:19AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:12:20AM THANK YOU.
09:12:21AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14.
09:12:24AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:12:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM FINE WITH THE REPORT AND SEEING HOW IT
09:12:32AM IS BEING USED UNLESS ANY OTHER MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS.
09:12:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, I AM GOOD.
09:12:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
09:12:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:12:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:12:42AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:12:44AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:12:45AM THANK YOU.
09:12:46AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15.
09:12:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, 15, YES, YES.
09:12:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU WANT TO HEAR 15.
09:12:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: 15 AND 16.
09:12:57AM VIK CAN GET THEM BOTH.
09:13:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MARY TOLD ME SOMETHING ABOUT IT, BUT I AM
09:13:03AM FINE WITH YOU WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
09:13:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17.
09:13:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, PLEASE.
09:13:09AM IF MR. BHIDE IS HERE.
09:13:12AM HE BRIEFED ME AND SPEAK BRIEFLY BECAUSE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE
09:13:17AM REACHED OUT TO ME OF TRADER JOE'S.
09:13:20AM ALSO MADE THE NEWS AGAIN TODAY.
09:13:21AM I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT.
09:13:23AM THANK YOU.
09:13:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEN WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE CONSENT AGENDA
09:13:26AM ITEMS.
09:13:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
09:13:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:13:33AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:13:34AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:13:35AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:13:36AM IS FDOT HERE WITH US?
09:13:40AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:13:41AM TEN-MINUTE UPDATE FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
09:13:47AM TRANSPORTATION TO THIS CITY COUNCIL ON PROJECTS WITHIN THE
09:13:50AM CITY OF TAMPA.
09:13:51AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
09:13:54AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:13:56AM HAPPY NEW YEAR.
09:13:57AM AS REQUESTED BY THE CHAIR AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON OVER TWO
09:14:01AM YEARS AGO, WE HAVE A QUARTERLY UPDATE BY FDOT TODAY.
09:14:06AM WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH FDOT DISTRICT 7 AND SECRETARY GWYNN
09:14:13AM TO IMPROVE SAFETY ON OUR ROADWAYS AND MOBILITY OF ALL MODES.
09:14:18AM DISTRICT 3 HAS DONE GREAT WORK, AND THEY ARE HERE TO REPORT
09:14:22AM ON SOME OF THEIR PROJECTS IN VERY CRITICAL AREAS WITHIN THE
09:14:25AM CITY, BUT ALSO HOW THEIR APPROACHES CHANGED AS WE WORK
09:14:29AM TOGETHER ON VISION ZERO.
09:14:30AM SO AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE A FRIEND AND
09:14:35AM COLLEAGUE, PETER HSU, SAFETY PERSON AT DISTRICT 3.
09:14:40AM ACCOMPANIED BY ERIC.
09:14:43AM AND DO WE HAVE ALEX HERE?
09:14:45AM >> NO.
09:14:46AM >>VIK BHIDE: GREAT.
09:14:47AM IF RICK LOOKS FAMILIAR, IT IS BECAUSE HE IS ALEX, OUR
09:14:51AM VISION ZERO COORDINATOR.
09:14:52AM HIS HUSBAND -- BROTHER.
09:14:54AM SORRY.
09:14:54AM PETER, TAKE IT AWAY BEFORE I GET US IN TROUBLE.
09:14:58AM [LAUGHTER]
09:14:59AM GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
09:15:00AM GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
09:15:02AM GOOD MORNING CITY COUNCIL MEN AND WOMAN.
09:15:07AM FIRST I WILL GIVE YOU -- EDGE.
09:15:14AM WE WILL BRING OUR PRESENTATION TO YOU ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON
09:15:23AM AND HAPPENING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:15:24AM CONGRATULATIONS OF CITY OF TAMPA.
09:15:29AM DO YOU KNOW BASED ON THE LATEST CRASH DATA TRACKED BY DOT,
09:15:37AM THE FATAL CRASH -- CRASHES HAPPEN IN 2022 COMPARED WITH
09:15:44AM 2021.
09:15:45AM YOUR CITY IS MAKING A TREMENDOUS IMPACT.
09:15:49AM 22% REDUCTION FROM 76 TO 59.
09:15:53AM THAT IS AN AMAZING RESULT.
09:15:56AM REALLY -- THIS IS JUST PURELY -- WE HAVE SEEN INSIDE CITY OF
09:16:02AM TAMPA.
09:16:02AM I JUST WANT TO SAY, HOW DID WE DO IT?
09:16:07AM SIMILAR TO WHAT -- TO ECHO WHAT VIK SAID, WE HAVE GREAT
09:16:13AM TEAMWORK WITH YOUR CITY.
09:16:14AM RECENTLY I AM FUNDING USING THE FUNDING WITH YOUR CITY OF
09:16:21AM MORE THAN A MILLION DOLLARS.
09:16:23AM I AM GOING TO ASK MY PARTNER, ERIC, TO LET YOU KNOW THE BIG
09:16:27AM PICTURE WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
09:16:29AM IT IS PART OF THE WAY WE OUTREACH TO ADDRESS TRAFFIC SAFETY.
09:16:36AM ERIC, ALL YOURS.
09:16:37AM >> THANK YOU, PETER.
09:16:38AM AS PETER MENTIONED, MY NAME IS ERIC HENRY.
09:16:42AM ALEX HENRY THAT YOU MAY KNOW.
09:16:44AM WE WORK OUT OF OUR SAFETY OFFICE.
09:16:48AM WE ARE ASKED TO FOCUS ON A SAFETY PROJECT FROM 2022.
09:16:52AM WE WILL FOCUS ON A PROJECT ALONG NEBRASKA AVENUE THAT WAS
09:16:55AM PROGRAMMED TO IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
09:16:58AM SO TO TALK ABOUT THAT, WE WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND
09:17:03AM AND THE HEIGHTS MOBILITY STUDY THAT MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR
09:17:06AM WITH.
09:17:06AM WITH BACKGROUND, STARTED 2017, THE GOAL WAS TO PROVIDE
09:17:12AM SAFETY AND MOBILITY FOR TAMPA HEIGHTS, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
09:17:15AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:17:15AM YOU CAN SEE THE PROJECT LIMITS, HILLSBOROUGH RIVER TO THE
09:17:19AM WEST, NEBRASKA AVENUE TO THE EAST.
09:17:20AM INVOLVING COORDINATION BETWEEN FDOT, CITY OF TAMPA, HART,
09:17:25AM HILLSBOROUGH MPO.
09:17:27AM THERE WERE WALKING AUDITS DONE, FIELD REVIEWS.
09:17:30AM COMMUNITY OUTREACH WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO DETERMINE WHAT
09:17:33AM THEY THOUGHT WAS NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA.
09:17:35AM AND THAT THE CULMINATION OF THE PROJECT, THERE WAS A SERIES
09:17:38AM OF SHORT-TERM AND LON-TERM SUGGESTION THAT WERE PROVIDED FOR
09:17:42AM SEVERAL CORRIDORS THROUGHOUT THIS STUDY AREA.
09:17:45AM LOOKING AT THOSE RESULTS AS WELL AS SOME DONE BY INDEPENDENT
09:17:50AM STUDIES DONE INTERNALLY, WE IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF SAFETY
09:17:53AM IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE SPECIFICALLY ALONG NEBRASKA
09:17:56AM AVENUE.
09:17:56AM SO IN 2021, WE PROGRAMMED THIS PROJECT.
09:17:59AM YOU CAN SEE THE LIMITS KENNEDY BOULEVARD TO THE SOUTH AND
09:18:05AM EAST ARCTIC TO THE NORTH PROVIDING PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS
09:18:10AM RAISED MEDIANS, MIDWALK CROSSWALKS WITH BEACONS, RFB,
09:18:17AM BEACONS AND PLUS MORE.
09:18:19AM ALL IN ALL $3.4 MILLION IN DESIGN CONSTRUCTION AND CEI
09:18:24AM PROGRAM IN THIS PROJECT.
09:18:25AM IT IS SET TO LET IN JUNE.
09:18:26AM SO CONSTRUCTION SHOULD BEGIN SOME TIME IN FALL OF THIS YEAR.
09:18:30AM SO JUST TO DIVE INTO SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS GOING TO BE
09:18:33AM MADE AND TALK ABOUT THE BENEFIT THAT WILL PROVIDE TO
09:18:36AM PEDESTRIANS IN THE AREA.
09:18:37AM THERE IS GOING TO BE A TOTAL OF 27 RAISED MEDIANS INSTALLED
09:18:42AM ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
09:18:43AM YOU CAN SEE THE DESIGN FOR JUST A FEW OF THEM MERE.
09:18:46AM THEY WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL REFUGE FOR CROSSING PEDESTRIANS
09:18:49AM AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LANDSCAPING, FUTURE
09:18:52AM LANDSCAPING PROJECTS, ADDING GREENERY WHICH CAN HELP TO SLOW
09:18:56AM TRAFFIC AS AN ADDED BENEFIT.
09:18:58AM THERE IS GOING TO BE A TOTAL OF SIX MIDBLOCK CROSSWALKS
09:19:04AM INSTALLED.
09:19:04AM THREE OF THEM RECTANGULAR BEACONS CROSSWALKS OR RFBs EAST
09:19:11AM 11th, EAST BRIAN AND EAST 25th AVENUE.
09:19:13AM I AM SURE YOU HAVE SEEN THEM AROUND.
09:19:15AM LIKE THAT GUY ON TOP.
09:19:16AM RECTANGULAR BEACON, FLASHES.
09:19:20AM LET DRIVERS KNOW A CROSSWALK AND PEDESTRIANS CROSSING AND
09:19:24AM YOU NEED TO STOP AND YIELD.
09:19:25AM IT HAS KNOWN TO DRASTICALLY DECREASE THE RATE OF CRASHES.
09:19:30AM AND REDUCE PEDESTRIAN CRASHES BY 40% AND SIGNIFICANT
09:19:35AM BENEFITS FOR PEDESTRIANS IN THE AREA.
09:19:36AM OTHER EAST AT EAST IDLEWILD.
09:19:39AM JUNEAU.
09:19:41AM HYBRID CROSSINGS.
09:19:43AM YOU SEE THE IT DESIGNS.
09:19:45AM IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE HYBRID BEACONSES.
09:19:48AM THEY ARE SOMETIMES CALLED THE HAWK.
09:19:50AM A FORM OF TRAFFIC CONTROL AND WARNING THAT WARNS DRIVERS
09:19:53AM THAT THERE IS A SIDEWALK HERE.
09:19:55AM THEY WILL BEGIN AS A BLANK SIGNAL LIKE THIS.
09:19:59AM A PEDESTRIAN WILL PRESS THE BUTTON TO ACTIVATE IT AND IT
09:20:02AM WILL BEGIN FLASHING YELLOW TO WARN DRIVERS THEY NEED TO COME
09:20:05AM TO A STOP SOON BEFORE PROCEEDING TO A SOLID YELLOW, SOLID
09:20:09AM RED.
09:20:10AM DRIVERS COME TO A FULL STOP AND PEDESTRIANS ARE GIVEN THE
09:20:13AM OKAY TO CROSS.
09:20:13AM AS PEDESTRIANS BEGIN CLEARING THE SWAB THAT RED WIGWAG THAT
09:20:21AM THEY CAN PROCEED FOR CAUTION AS LONG AS THE CROSSWALKS IS
09:20:23AM CLEAR.
09:20:24AM AND CLEAR SIGNAL.
09:20:25AM PEDESTRIANS AREN'T CROSSING.
09:20:26AM TRAFFIC IS PROCEEDING AS NORMAL.
09:20:29AM KNOWN TO BE MASSIVE BENEFIT TO PLACES FOR PEDESTRIANS WHERE
09:20:34AM THEY ARE INSTALLED.
09:20:34AM REDUCE CRASHES 69% AND OVERALL CRASHES OF 29%.
09:20:39AM SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT FOR PEDESTRIANS IN THAT AREA.
09:20:42AM THIS IS JUST ONE ENGINEERING PROJECT AND WE DON'T WANT TO
09:20:45AM GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT IS THE ONLY WAY WE TRY TO APPROACH
09:20:48AM SAFETY.
09:20:48AM WE TRY TO COME AT IT THROUGH THE VIEWPOINTS OF FIVE Es:
09:20:55AM ENGINEERING, EDUCATION, EVALUATION AND ENCOURAGEMENT.
09:20:59AM EDUCATION ARE THINGS LIKE THE SAFETY PSAs.
09:21:02AM TEAM TRAFFIC SAFETY EDUCATION PROGRAM.
09:21:04AM OUR OUTREACH COMMUNITIES.
09:21:06AM ENFORCEMENT.
09:21:07AM WE LOOK VERY CLOSELY WITH LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
09:21:09AM WE HAVE OUR ELAE PROGRAM THAT I WILL TALK ABOUT.
09:21:12AM ENGINEERING IN ADDITION TO THE PROJECT I JUST MENTIONED.
09:21:15AM WE HAVE L.E.D. LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS, HIGH SURFACE
09:21:19AM TREATMENT.
09:21:19AM PEDESTRIAN INTERVALS.
09:21:22AM EVALUATION SIDE.
09:21:23AM SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO EVALUATE THESE TREATMENTS AND
09:21:25AM MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT JUST PUT THEM OUT THERE AND FORGETTING
09:21:29AM ABOUT THEM.
09:21:29AM ENCOURAGEMENT WHICH IS LARGELY INTERNAL AND INCLUDES PEOPLE
09:21:33AM LIKE PETER HSU, AND THOSE WHO LIGHT A FIRE UNDER PEOPLE TO
09:21:39AM GET THEM EXCITED ABOUT SAFETY.
09:21:41AM AND SOME OF THE EFFORTS THAT WE UNDERGO IN 2022.
09:21:45AM ON THE EVALUATION SIDE AND KIND OF THE ENGINEERING SIDE AS
09:21:49AM WELL, WE INSTALLED TURNING RADII IMPROVEMENTS.
09:21:53AM TIGHT RATE TURN LANES.
09:21:55AM YOU CAN SEE THE TRADITIONAL DESIGN ON THE LEFT AND THE NEW
09:21:58AM TIGHT DESIGN ON THE RIGHT.
09:22:00AM THESE ARE DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE DRIVERS TO TURN AT A LOWER
09:22:04AM SPEED, INCREASE VISIBILITY TO PEDESTRIANS WITH VEHICLES WHO
09:22:09AM ARE RETURNING.
09:22:10AM THE CENTER OF URBAN COUNTY RESEARCH CUTR AT USF PERFORMED
09:22:16AM BEFORE AND AFTER AND FOUND A REDUCTION OF RIGHT TURN SPEED
09:22:19AM BY 9.5% ON AVERAGE AND INCREASE YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS BY 7%.
09:22:24AM IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN NIGHTTIME-ONLY, 32% INCREASE IN
09:22:29AM YIELDING TO PEDESTRIANS.
09:22:30AM QUITE SIGNIFICANT.
09:22:33AM EVALUATION IS IMPORTANT TO US BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO JUST
09:22:36AM PUT THE TREATMENTS AND HOPE THEY ARE WORK.
09:22:38AM WE WANT TO CHECK BACK IN.
09:22:40AM IS THIS WORKING?
09:22:41AM IF NOT, WHY?
09:22:45AM HA WHAT CAN WE TO DO CHANGE IT AND HOW CAN WE DUPLICATE IT
09:22:49AM GOING FORWARD.
09:22:50AM ON THE EDUCATION SIDE, WE BEGAN AIRING SOURCE SAFETY PSAs
09:22:55AM DURING OUR PREVIEW IN SEVERAL MOVIE THEATRES ACROSS THE
09:22:59AM DISTRICT.
09:22:59AM A PILOT WITH THE FOURTH OF JULY WEEKEND WHERE WE WERE ABLE
09:23:03AM TO REACH 200,000 PEOPLE OF MOVIE THEATRES OF SAFETY PSAs BY
09:23:10AM BRANDON HIGH SCHOOL.
09:23:10AM AND WE WRAPPED UP OUR SECOND CAMPAIGN THAT WENT OVER
09:23:13AM THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS QUESTION WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR
09:23:16AM THE FINAL NUMBERS ON, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO REACH $300,000
09:23:20AM DURING THANKSGIVING.
09:23:21AM AND THIS IS A INNOVATIVE NEW WAYS TO REACH PEOPLE WITH
09:23:26AM SAFETY MEASURING WITH PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE BEEN HARDER TO
09:23:28AM REACH THROUGH MORE TRADITIONAL AVENUES OF ADVERTISING.
09:23:31AM FINALLY ON THE ENFORCEMENT SIDE, ENHANCED LAW ENFORCEMENT
09:23:35AM ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM, ELOE PROGRAM THAT REASON FROM FEBRUARY
09:23:39AM TO AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.
09:23:40AM ESSENTIALLY THIS ALLOWED LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES TO
09:23:43AM DONATE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS NEXT CHANGE FOR INCENTIVE
09:23:47AM POINTS, WHICH THEN COULD BE EXCHANGED FOR SEVERAL INCENTIVE
09:23:50AM ITEMS LIKE SPEED RADARS, SPEED FEEDBACK TRAILERS, THINGS OF
09:23:54AM THAT NATURE.
09:23:55AM WE SAW GREAT PARTICIPATION IN THIS BUILDING WITH 22
09:23:59AM PARTICIPATING AGENCIES AT ALL FIVE COUNTIES AND AT THE END
09:24:01AM OF THE PROGRAM 11,000 HOURS OF ENFORCEMENT DONATED
09:24:04AM SPECIFICALLY ALONG HIGH CRASH CORRIDORS.
09:24:06AM THE AREAS WHERE THE ENFORCEMENT HOURS ARE NEEDED MOST.
09:24:10AM WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND OPEN
09:24:14AM UP THE FLOOR FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE FOR ME AND PETER.
09:24:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:24:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE AND
09:24:21AM PRESENTATION.
09:24:21AM I LOVE THAT YOU STARTED SEEING THE REDUCTION.
09:24:24AM 22% FROM LAST YEAR TO NOW.
09:24:26AM NOT SO LONG AGO, WE WERE THE MOST DANGEROUS OR ONE OF THE
09:24:29AM MOST DANGEROUS FOR BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS IN THE ENTIRE
09:24:33AM COUNTRY ON TOP OF OUR HIGH INSURANCE RATES BECAUSE OF SO
09:24:36AM MUCH INSURANCE FRAUD AND SO MUCH THAT AFFECTED US.
09:24:46AM IN THE TIME OF COVID IN MARCH 2020 WHEN WE WERE ALL AT HOME,
09:24:51AM I WANTED TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE AND I WOULD WALK THROUGH
09:24:53AM THE CITY FROM WEST TAMPA TO DOWNTOWN TO THE AIRPORT.
09:24:55AM WHATEVER IT WAS, JUST TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IF I HAD TO -- IF I
09:25:01AM HAD TO WALK TO WORK EVERY DAY, IF I WASN'T TAKING THE BUS OR
09:25:04AM IF I WERE A BICYCLIST WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE.
09:25:07AM EACH -- EACH STREET IS DIFFERENT.
09:25:09AM EACH INTERSECTION IS DIFFERENT.
09:25:11AM WE HAVE SEEN SOME IMPROVEMENTS AND THE LACK THEREOF, BUT IF
09:25:15AM YOU LOOK AT OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY OR OTHER PARTS --
09:25:20AM THROUGHOUT EUROPE, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY FOCUS ON THE
09:25:23AM PEDESTRIAN FIRST.
09:25:24AM THEY FOCUS ON DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGICAL METHODS.
09:25:28AM FOR EXAMPLE, THE FLASHING CROSSWALKS.
09:25:31AM I THINK THOSE ARE EFFECTIVE.
09:25:32AM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE HAD A HORRIBLE,
09:25:36AM HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE TRAGEDY WHERE A MOTHER AND CHILD WERE
09:25:40AM KILLED IN THAT WE SAW SOME IMPROVEMENT WITH THE REDUCING OF
09:25:45AM THE SPEED LIMIT, WITH THE INSULATION OF CROSSWALKS.
09:25:48AM MANY THAT ARE FLASHING.
09:25:49AM USE THAT AREA ALL THE TIME AND I SEE PEOPLE THAT BENEFIT
09:25:52AM FROM IT AND PEOPLE THAT GO RIGHT THROUGH KNEES LIGHTS.
09:25:55AM SEE IT ON PALM AVENUE IN YBOR CITY WHERE THEY INSTALLEDED
09:26:01AM FLASHING CROSSWALK LIGHTS.
09:26:03AM I CAN GO ON AND ON.
09:26:04AM WE DUE TO SIGNIFICANT DEATH AND TRAGEDY, WE MADE
09:26:08AM IMPROVEMENTS AND WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO WHERE PEOPLE FEEL
09:26:11AM SAFE.
09:26:11AM YOU KNOW -- WHEN I SAID I WALKED THROUGH THE CITY IN THE
09:26:15AM TIME OF COVID, VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC.
09:26:17AM BUT IMAGINE A REGULAR DAY AND CROSSING A BUSY STREET.
09:26:21AM DALE MABRY.
09:26:22AM PEOPLE WHO RIDE THEIR BIKES ACROSS DALE MABRY.
09:26:25AM A WIDE STRETCH OF CONTROLLED.
09:26:28AM KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
09:26:29AM COLUMBUS DRIVE.
09:26:30AM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
09:26:31AM SO MANY PLACES FOR IMPROVEMENT, BUT WE ARE TAKING THOSE
09:26:34AM STEPS.
09:26:34AM YOU SHOWED NEBRASKA AVENUE, WHICH IS JUST LIKE FLORIDA
09:26:38AM AVENUE, WHICH IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE SOUTH OF
09:26:41AM HILLSBOROUGH AND WHAT NOT.
09:26:42AM NEBRASKA AVENUE, MUCH-NEEDED NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS.
09:26:48AM AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT PEOPLE FIRST.
09:26:51AM BICYCLISTS FIRST.
09:26:53AM NOT EVERYBODY CAN AFFORD TO DRIVE A CAR.
09:26:55AM AGAIN VERY EXPENSIVE, INSURANCE RATES, GAS, EVERYTHING.
09:26:58AM WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE PEDESTRIANS IN THIS COMMUNITY.
09:27:03AM I KNOW AS WE EMBRACE VISION ZERO AND THESE POLICIES.
09:27:07AM I SAT ON THE TPO FORMER MPO FOR EIGHT YEARS AND I HAVE SEEN
09:27:13AM THE IMPROVEMENTS.
09:27:14AM A LONG WAY TO GO.
09:27:15AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
09:27:16AM ALL THREE OF YOU, VIK -- EVERYBODY FROM FDOT, YOU ARE
09:27:21AM WONDERFUL AND YOU UNDERSTAND AND KNOW THAT YOU HAVE MY
09:27:23AM SUPPORT, AGAIN, THIS KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE.
09:27:25AM BUT LITTLE BY LITTLE, WE ARE TAKING THOSE STEPS.
09:27:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:27:28AM >> THANK YOU.
09:27:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:27:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST -- I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
09:27:35AM THIS PRESENTATION.
09:27:35AM ESPECIALLY THE FOCUS ON NEBRASKA AVENUE, WHICH IS A HEAVILY,
09:27:40AM HEAVY PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR.
09:27:42AM PEOPLE ARE CROSSING AT ANY SPOT.
09:27:44AM SO I NOTICE PARTICULARLY THE INTERSECTIONS THAT YOU HAVE
09:27:48AM CHOSEN ARE CERTAINLY AREAS THAT I ALSO SEE WHEN I TRAVERSE
09:27:52AM NEBRASKA AVENUE.
09:27:53AM WHETHER IT BE ON A CAR -- IN A CAR, ON A BICYCLE.
09:27:56AM SO I AM HOPING THAT HELPS SLOW SOME THINGS DOWN.
09:28:01AM THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
09:28:04AM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:28:05AM AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THEM GO IN TO ACTUAL WORK.
09:28:10AM WHEN DO YOU THINK IF THEY ARE START THE FALL OF 2023 THAT WE
09:28:15AM WILL START SEEING SOME OF THESE?
09:28:17AM >> WELL, IT WILL BE LATE IN JUNE.
09:28:19AM CONSTRUCTION.
09:28:20AM MOBILIZE.
09:28:21AM START SUMMER.
09:28:23AM THIS KIND OF PROJECT WILL TAKE A WEEK -- A YEAR.
09:28:26AM SO SOME TIME SUMMER 2024.
09:28:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
09:28:31AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:28:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:28:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:28:34AM AGAIN, LIKE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK JUST SPOKE ABOUT, PEOPLE IN
09:28:38AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS HAVE BEEN UNDER A LOT OF STRAIN.
09:28:40AM IT COMES THROUGH THE HELP THAT THEY HAVE RECEIVED AND
09:28:43AM REVITALIZED OUR AREA.
09:28:45AM MANY YEARS AGO, IT WASN'T EVEN CLOSE TO WHERE IT IS TODAY,
09:28:48AM HOWEVER, WITH THAT CLOSENESS COMES A LOT OF NEW BUSINESSES,
09:28:52AM THANK GOOD, SMALL BUSINESSES, AND A LOT MORE TRAFFIC.
09:28:55AM SO WHAT YOU ARE DOING THERE IS TO SAVE LIVES.
09:28:57AM AND NO ONE CAN SAVE LIVES OTHER THAN THE DRIVER OF A CAR.
09:29:01AM AND THE PEDESTRIAN.
09:29:02AM SOMETIMES BOTH OF THEM ARE AT FAULT.
09:29:05AM SOMETIMES ONE DOESN'T LOOK.
09:29:07AM SOMETIMES THE OTHER ONE DOESN'T LOOK.
09:29:09AM MOST OF THE TIME NEITHER ONE OF THEM LOOKS.
09:29:12AM SO EVERYBODY HAS GOT A MIND-SET OF WHERE THEY ARE GOING.
09:29:15AM HOW TO GET THERE.
09:29:16AM AND WHAT CLOCK TELLS YOU YOU HAVE TO BE THERE TO ARRIVE FOR
09:29:21AM WHATEVER REASON AND THAT IS WHAT SOCIETY IS ABOUT NOW,
09:29:24AM UNFORTUNATELY.
09:29:24AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING SLOWING THE TRAFFIC.
09:29:27AM I SEE THE RIGHT LANE TURN HAS BEEN NARROWED.
09:29:29AM INSTEAD OF HAVING AN ISLAND A LONGER DASH.
09:29:33AM SOMEBODY DESIGNED THE ISLAND.
09:29:34AM IT WASN'T YOU, I DON'T THINK.
09:29:36AM BUT THANK YOU FOR CHANGING.
09:29:37AM LIFE IS A CYCLE OF CHANGES.
09:29:39AM AND WHEN YOU FOLKS FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT AN EXIT OFF
09:29:44AM OF THE MALFUNCTION JUNCTION INTO YBOR CITY, I HATE TO SAY
09:29:53AM THIS, SOMETIMES PEOPLE WANT THE CHANGE.
09:29:55AM AND I AM NOT GOING TO ASK YOU WHO.
09:29:58AM BUT ALL OF THAT IS PREDICATED ON SOMETHING ELSE BEING BUILT
09:30:01AM SOMEWHERE ELSE IN YBOR CITY.
09:30:05AM I THINK 20th STREET, 21st STREET EXIT IS PARAMOUNT.
09:30:09AM YBOR CITY HAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC COME HAD IN AND OUT AND YOU
09:30:13AM WILL CLOSE THAT ONE, I UNDERSTAND.
09:30:15AM AM I CORRECT?
09:30:19AM >> IT WILL REMAIN OPEN.
09:30:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A LONG TIME I HEARD THAT THAT ONE WOULD
09:30:22AM BE CLOSED AND THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN CHAOTIC.
09:30:25AM ANY TIME YOU GET ON THE EXPRESSWAY ESPECIALLY AT 3:30 IN THE
09:30:28AM AFTERNOON MADING EAST, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET FAR.
09:30:32AM FROM 3:30 TO 5:45.
09:30:36AM GETTING GRIDLOCKED.
09:30:38AM IF YOU WERE DOING FIVE, TEN MILES PER HOUR.
09:30:41AM I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GO 100 MILES PER HOUR WHEN CARS ON
09:30:46AM THE EXPRESSWAY.
09:30:46AM EVERY TIME WE HAVE EXPANSION OF THE EXPRESSWAY, NOT ONLY
09:30:50AM DOES IT DISSOLVE THE FIBER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT WITHIN A
09:30:54AM YEAR, ALREADY ANTIQUATED.
09:30:57AM SO I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT.
09:31:00AM I HOPE YOU FOLKS HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT.
09:31:02AM WE DO NOT HAVE A VERY GOOD TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM TO MOVE
09:31:06AM AROUND THE CITY.
09:31:07AM CERTAINLY BUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:31:15AM MAYBE TOO MUCH TIME WAITING ON A BUS AND SMALLER BUSES AND
09:31:20AM RAPID TRANSIT TO MOVE THEM AROUND.
09:31:22AM THE STREETCAR WILL NEED TO BE EXTENDED BUT OTHER MODES OF
09:31:26AM TRANSPORTATION.
09:31:26AM THE CARS WILL EAT YOU UP IF YOU DON'T.
09:31:29AM BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B.
09:31:33AM EVERYBODY IS BUSY AND HAVE A SCHEDULE ACTUAL TO MEET THAT IS
09:31:36AM UNBELIEVABLE.
09:31:36AM ALL OF THEM DO.
09:31:37AM YOU FOLKS -- YOU GENTLEMEN RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF US THAT
09:31:42AM ARE THE ONES TO DETERMINE HOW FURTHER ARE WE GOING TO EXPAND
09:31:45AM EXPRESSWAYS.
09:31:46AM I DON'T THINK YOU CAN MAKE THEM ANY FURTHER BECAUSE THE MORE
09:31:48AM YOU DO.
09:31:48AM THE MORE YOU INCENTIVIZE THE SAME PEOPLE YOU WANT TO GET OFF
09:31:53AM OF THE EXPRESSWAYS.
09:31:55AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:31:56AM >> THANK YOU.
09:31:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS?
09:32:00AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE REPORT.
09:32:01AM I WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT, AND I DON'T MEAN TO KEEP BRINGING
09:32:06AM UP.
09:32:06AM BUT WHAT TRANSPORTATION HAD GONE THROUGH.
09:32:09AM THE VOTERS -- WITHOUT THE MATCHING FUNDS, THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:32:12AM IS NOWHERE.
09:32:12AM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS THE TRANSPORTATION HUB FOR WEST CENTRAL
09:32:17AM FLORIDA.
09:32:18AM LAND, SEA AND AIR.
09:32:19AM TRANSPORTATION SHOULD MEAN MOVING PEOPLE NOT VEHICLES.
09:32:26AM CITY OF TAMPA CANNOT RAISE FUNDS FOR TRANSPORTATION FOR
09:32:34AM PUBLIC MASS TRANSPORTATION.
09:32:36AM THAT IS LEFT UP TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
09:32:40AM SOMETHING IS GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.
09:32:43AM WE NEED TO MOVE PEOPLE, NOT VEHICLES.
09:32:45AM GENTLEMEN, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU.
09:32:48AM THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.
09:32:49AM >> THANK YOU.
09:32:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AT THIS TIME WE WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC
09:32:56AM COMMENT.
09:32:57AM ANYONE WISHING TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE
09:33:04AM FORM A LINE, MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT.
09:33:09AM AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO GIVE YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:33:13AM MISS BURTON.
09:33:15AM HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU.
09:33:18AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:33:19AM HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU.
09:33:25AM FOR TRANSPORTATION, JUST TO JUMP ON THAT.
09:33:28AM AIN'T GOING TO GO ANYWHERE AS LONG AS THE PEOPLE TO NEED TO
09:33:34AM VOTE, TO PUSH IT CAN'T SEE ECONOMIC BENEFIT FOR THEMSELVES.
09:33:38AM WHEN I LOOK AT THE 27-PAGE AGENDA AND ITEM 3, 4, 5, 6, BIG
09:33:45AM MONEY ITEMS MOVING.
09:33:46AM IT DON'T SAY ANYTHING IN THERE THE HIRING.
09:33:50AM HOW DO THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY BENEFIT FROM ALL OF THESE MONEY
09:33:54AM PROJECTS?
09:33:55AM HOW?
09:33:55AM HOW DO WE BENEFIT?
09:33:56AM HOW DO IT ALIGN ITSELF WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU PASSED
09:34:01AM IN 2020 THAT YOU STATED THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THE ILL EFFECTS
09:34:05AM OF SLAVERY AND THE CONTINUAL -- THE CONTINUATION OF AFRICAN
09:34:11AM PEOPLE IN THIS CITY BEING DEPRIVED OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
09:34:15AM SO 27-PAGE AGENDA.
09:34:19AM YOU ARE STARTING THE YEAR OFF.
09:34:21AM HOPEFULLY IT DON'T CONTINUE.
09:34:23AM WE MUST SEE AN ECONOMIC INCENTIVE FOR BLACK PEOPLE IN THIS
09:34:27AM COMMUNITY SO WE CAN DEAL WITH SOME OF THE SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS.
09:34:30AM WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PRAY OUR WAY OUT OF THIS.
09:34:33AM OUT OF VIOLENCE.
09:34:36AM PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
09:34:39AM SECONDLY, BLACK LIVES MATTER.
09:34:42AM ACCORDING TO THE CREATIVE LOAFING REPORT, THAT QUESTIONNAIRE
09:34:48AM THAT WAS SENT OUT BY THE PBA SHOULD BE DENOUNCED BY ALL OF
09:34:52AM YOU.
09:34:52AM THE MAYOR SHOULD TAKE A POSITION ON IT.
09:34:55AM MOST OF THE OFFICERS DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:34:59AM AND YET THEY FEEL THAT THEY CAN REFER THEIR POINT AND THEIR
09:35:04AM VIEWS TO SAY, I WILL GUESS IF YOU PARTICIPATED IN A BLACK
09:35:09AM LIVES -- THE FACT THAT BLACK LIVES HAVE MEANING IN THIS
09:35:13AM CITY, THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE WORTHY OF THEIR SUPPORT.
09:35:15AM IT IS -- IT IS RACIST.
09:35:17AM BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT IT DIDN'T SAY?
09:35:20AM IT DIDN'T SAY THAT ARE YOU A MEMBER OF THE PROUD BOYS.
09:35:24AM WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS ABOUT THE KLAN?
09:35:28AM WHAT ARE YOUR VIEWS OF THE ONGOING SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS THAT
09:35:32AM BLACK PEOPLE ARE HAVING IN THIS COUNTRY?
09:35:34AM IT IS RACIST.
09:35:35AM AND THEY SHOULD BE DENOUNCED.
09:35:37AM AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO DEALING WITH THE ONGOING ISSUES IN OUR
09:35:44AM COMMUNITY, IT IS NOT ENOUGH THAT THE NAMING OF STREETS OF
09:35:48AM HONORABLE AFRICAN PEOPLE IS ENOUGH.
09:35:52AM WE NEED REAL CHANGE, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE CONCENTRATING --
09:35:59AM BECAUSE WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS THE
09:36:02AM PART TWO OF THE JANUARY 6, AND WE SEE THAT IT IS TRYING TO
09:36:06AM INFUSE ITSELF WAY IN TAMPA, FLORIDA AS WELL BY THE
09:36:11AM INITIATION OF THE PBA.
09:36:13AM THANK YOU.
09:36:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:36:15AM >> MENTESNOT.
09:36:21AM I WANT TO SAY VERY QUICK OF THE TRANSPORTATION PEOPLE.
09:36:23AM THEY ARE GONE.
09:36:24AM THEY ARE OUT OF HERE.
09:36:25AM BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, BUILDING STRAIGHT AND DOWN
09:36:28AM INTERSTATES SO THE HOMELESS PEOPLE CAN'T SLEEP UNDER THE
09:36:33AM INTERSTATE.
09:36:33AM THEY TO MAKE A DONATION TO THE HOMELESS PEOPLE.
09:36:36AM PUT IT IN THEIR BUDGET.
09:36:38AM THE TAMPA POLICE BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION IS A DOMESTIC
09:36:42AM MILITARY OPERATION OPERATING IN THE CITY TAMPA.
09:36:46AM NOTHING UNIQUE ABOUT IT.
09:36:47AM ALL POLICE UNIONS ARE OPERATIONS OF THE DOMESTIC FOR
09:36:52AM CAPITALISM AND IMPERIALISM.
09:36:54AM FROM 1990 AND BEYOND ACTING WITH VENTURE CAPITALISTS AND
09:37:00AM NEOCAPITALISTS.
09:37:02AM THE HIGHEST EXPRESSION OF WHITE NATIONALISM, KLU KLUX KLAN
09:37:08AM OPERATIONS AND USING TAXPAYERS MONEY AND RESOURCES.
09:37:11AM THE TAMPA PBA IS NOTHING BUT A KKK OPERATION WITH TAXPAYER
09:37:18AM MONEY, TAKE-HOME CARS, AMENITIES AND OTHER BENEFITS NOT
09:37:22AM AFFORDED TO REAL AND POOR WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE WITH A 18%
09:37:26AM PAY RAISE NO ONE ASKED FOR BUT WAS APPROVED BY CITY
09:37:29AM GOVERNMENT.
09:37:30AM EACH AND EVERY WEEK A MOTLEY CREW, ALBERT AND COSTELLO,
09:37:35AM THREE STOOGES OF MERMAIDS AND PUPPETS TRY TO TELL THE
09:37:39AM GENERAL POPULATION OF DECORUM AND HOW TO IMPRESS THE
09:37:44AM HIERARCHY OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:37:46AM THIS GROUP OF CLOWNS AND JERKS THAT CAN'T EVEN GET TO WORK
09:37:50AM ON TIME CAN'T UNDERSTAND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
09:37:53AM THAT COME BEFORE THEM WITHIN THE COURSE OF A YEAR, WHO CAN'T
09:37:55AM STAND UP TO A MAYOR, NOT JUST A CURRENT MAYOR BUT ANY MAYOR,
09:38:00AM ALLOW THE PBA TO FORWARD WITH THEM A QUESTIONNAIRE OR SURVEY
09:38:03AM THAT IS 100% OFFENSIVE AND ILLEGAL WITHOUT ANY PUSH BACK
09:38:07AM OBJECT CONDEMNATION FROM THEIR PRACTICES.
09:38:11AM THE PBA IS A KLU KLUX KLAN MILITARY OPERATION THAT GOT ITS
09:38:15AM START LIKE ANY OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS FROM SAVE
09:38:19AM CATCHING.
09:38:19AM YES, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ROOTS ARE DEEPLY ROOTED IN SLAVE
09:38:22AM CATCHING.
09:38:23AM THE CITY COUNCIL WITH ALL OF ITS WISDOM, DECORUM AND PUBLIC
09:38:27AM SERVICE DID NOT HAVE THE WISDOM TO FORWARD THE SURVEY TO THE
09:38:30AM STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF
09:38:36AM JUSTICE IN A COMPLAINT FORM OF A WHITES NATIONALIST
09:38:39AM ORGANIZATION SENDING INVESTIGATE I HAVE IT OR THREATENING
09:38:41AM LETTERS IN THE FORM OF A SURVEY TO PUBLIC OFFICIALS.
09:38:44AM IF THE SURVEY ISN'T OFFENSIVE TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY
09:38:47AM COUNCIL, IT IS OFFENSIVE TO THE CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTIONS OF
09:38:53AM AFRICAN COMMUNITY AND THE INDIGNATIONS THAT BLACK PEOPLE HAD
09:38:56AM TO SUFFER UNDER THE FOOT OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
09:38:58AM RELATED AGENCIES SINCE 1855.
09:39:00AM IT IS OFFENSIVE TO THE NORMAL HUMAN BEINGS.
09:39:04AM SHOULD BE OFFENSIVE TO JAY PASSMORE VIOLENTLY HIT BY CRAZED
09:39:10AM MOTORISTS OPERATING AN AUTOMOBILE IN A CRAZED MANNER AND NOT
09:39:14AM CHARGED BY THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:39:16AM OFFENSIVE FROM PEOPLE GETTING DRAGGED BY THE POLICE
09:39:19AM DEPARTMENT.
09:39:19AM BUT THE CLOWNS HAVE THE NERVES TO DO A LITMUS TEST ON
09:39:23AM ELECTED OFFICIALS OR POTENTIAL ELECTED OFFICIALS' FEELINGS
09:39:27AM TOWARD BLACK LIVE MATTERS.
09:39:28AM I PERSONALLY DEMAND ANYONE IN POSSESSION OF THAT WHITE
09:39:32AM NATIONALIST CALL FOR THE DISBANDMENT OF THE POLICE
09:39:36AM BENEVOLENT AND FORWARD TO THE UNITED STATES JUSTICE
09:39:39AM DEPARTMENT FOR INVESTIGATION.
09:39:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU GUDES MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:39:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:39:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW I DON'T -- I LOVE THE PLACE I
09:39:52AM RETIRED FROM, THE GOOD AND BAD.
09:39:53AM SOMETIMES IT WAS VERY BAD.
09:39:55AM SOMETIMES THEY ARE VERY GOOD.
09:39:56AM I RECEIVED SEVERAL CALLS IN REFERENCE TO THE QUESTIONNAIRE
09:40:01AM FROM A LOT OF POLICE OFFICERS THAT DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THE
09:40:04AM SURVEY.
09:40:05AM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A UNION.
09:40:06AM THEY FIGHT FOR THE RIGHTS AND THE WILL OF THE WORKERS FOR
09:40:10AM PAY AND WAGES AND SAFETY AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
09:40:14AM BUT A LOT OF OFFICERS DID CALL KNEE IN CONCERN WITH THE
09:40:17AM SURVEY BECAUSE THEY DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE SURVEY.
09:40:19AM ALL THE SENTIMENTS AREN'T THE SAME FOR ALL POLICE OFFICERS.
09:40:24AM I FILLED OUT THE QUESTIONNAIRE.
09:40:28AM I RETURNED IT PACK TO THE PBA.
09:40:30AM SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ON THERE I THOUGHT WERE OFFENSIVE.
09:40:34AM AND I -- IN MY RESPONSES, I LET THEM KNOW I DID FEEL
09:40:42AM OFFENDED BY A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE INDICATED.
09:40:46AM IF YOU WERE GOING TO GENERALIZE, YOU NEED TO GENERALIZE
09:40:52AM EVERYBODY.
09:40:52AM AS A BLACK MAN, I WAS KIND OF OFFENDED WITH SOME OF THE
09:40:56AM QUESTIONS.
09:40:56AM PRAYFUL THAT SOMETIMES WE DO MISTAKES WHEN WE DO THINGS.
09:41:02AM I MADE THEM.
09:41:03AM WE ALL MADE THEM.
09:41:05AM HOPE THAT THE PBA WILL EVALUATE THE SURVEY AND COME OUT AND
09:41:09AM APOLOGIZE TO THE COMMUNITY, TO THE CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR
09:41:12AM OFFICE.
09:41:12AM BECAUSE SOME OF THE CANDIDATES TO FILL IT OUT BECAUSE THEY
09:41:16AM WERE AFRAID NOT TO GET AN ENDORSEMENT.
09:41:19AM BUT YOU CAN'T BE AFRAID OF THAT BECAUSE YOU NEED TO DO THE
09:41:22AM RIGHT THING AT THE RIGHT TIME.
09:41:23AM I AM HOPING THAT THE PBA WILL TAKE THAT BACK AND MAKE A
09:41:27AM PUBLIC APOLOGY WHAT WAS SENT OUT FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
09:41:30AM MOST PEOPLE KNOW I AM NOT AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT.
09:41:33AM I DON'T CARE ABOUT RETALIATION AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
09:41:36AM AS A BLACK MAN, I HAVE TO SPEAK OUT WHEN IT IS RIGHT.
09:41:39AM I KNOW SOME OTHER HIGH-RANKING POLICE OFFICIALS DID CALL ME
09:41:43AM LAST NIGHT AS WELL.
09:41:44AM THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS AS WELL.
09:41:45AM RIGHT IS RIGHT.
09:41:46AM WRONG IS WRONG.
09:41:47AM NO MATTER HOW YOU MAY FEEL OF PROTESTERS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
09:41:51AM AS A POLICE OFFICER, I CAN REMEMBER CURTIS LANE, THE FIRST
09:41:54AM PROTEST, HE LED US TO MARCHING IN BELMONT HEIGHTS ESTATES.
09:42:00AM I HAVE BEEN IN A PROTEST.
09:42:02AM I HAVE BEEN IN A FIGHT.
09:42:03AM I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES WHEN POLICE FEEL THAT THE PUBLIC IS
09:42:06AM NOT STANDING UP FOR THEM.
09:42:07AM I UNDERSTAND IT SOMETIMES.
09:42:11AM BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS AN UNBIASED ENTITY.
09:42:14AM NO MATTER WHAT.
09:42:15AM NO MATTER HOW YOU MAY FEEL OF AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON.
09:42:18AM YOUR JOB IS TO PROTECT AND SERVE THIS COMMUNITY.
09:42:21AM AND I AM HOPEFUL AND PRAYFUL THAT HAD THE PBA ADMINISTRATION
09:42:25AM WILL LOOK AT IT AND SEE THAT THE COMMUNITY IS KIND OF
09:42:28AM OUTRAGED WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND MAYBE RETRACT IT AND DO A
09:42:32AM PUBLIC APOLOGY.
09:42:33AM THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:42:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
09:42:37AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:42:41AM NICE TO SEE YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:42:43AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ZION CEMETERY.
09:42:49AM TAMPA'S FIRST BLACK CEMETERY AND 800 BLACK PIONEERS LAID TO
09:42:53AM REST OVER 100 YEARS AGO.
09:42:55AM CONTRIBUTION OF BUILDING THIS COMMUNITY DUE TO RACISM,
09:43:01AM GREED, THIEVERY, THEIR REST WAS DISTURBED BY WHITE
09:43:04AM DEVELOPERS AND BUSINESS PEOPLE WHO PROFIT UNJUSTLY -- PROFIT
09:43:11AM UNJUSTLY.
09:43:11AM YOU WERE NOT THE SITTING MEMBERS AT THAT TIME.
09:43:15AM THE CITY PERMITTED THIS TO HAPPEN AS EARLY AS 1920.
09:43:21AM COUNCILMEMBERS, WE NEED YOUR HELP TO RESTORE JUSTICE TO
09:43:27AM THESE PEOPLE.
09:43:29AM WE NEED THE TWO PRIVATE OWNERS TO CEASE THEIR BUSINESS
09:43:37AM OPERATION AND RESPECT THIS LAND.
09:43:39AM JUST LIKED LAND HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS DONE.
09:43:42AM YOU CAN USE YOUR EMINENT DOMAIN POWERS TO TAKE BACK THIS
09:43:47AM LAND SO THIS CEMETERY CAN BE RESPECTED AS A FINAL RESTING
09:43:52AM PLACE FOR THE BLACK CITIZENS ONCE AGAIN.
09:43:54AM THE ZION CEMETERY MAINTENANCE SAFETY BOARD OF WHICH I AM THE
09:44:01AM VICE PRESIDENT NEEDS YOUR LEADERSHIP TO HELP MAKE THESE
09:44:06AM PRIVATE OWNER DO THE RIGHT THING.
09:44:08AM IT HAS BEEN THREE YEARS SINCE WE HAVE DISCOVERED THESE
09:44:13AM BODIES.
09:44:16AM AND NOTHING WAS NEVER -- AND STILL REMAIN AND BURIED BENEATH
09:44:21AM THESE BUSINESSES.
09:44:22AM WE NEED YOUR HELP.
09:44:23AM WILL YOU HELP US?
09:44:26AM WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO SET UP A MEETING WITH
09:44:29AM YOU ALL SEPARATELY.
09:44:30AM I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS.
09:44:32AM YOU WERE GIVEN ALL VOTERS -- INFORMATION ABOUT ZION.
09:44:37AM IF YOU DID NOT KNOW, NOW YOU CAN RESEARCH IT.
09:44:40AM THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON TOO LONG.
09:44:43AM MANY OTHER CITIES, STATES HAVE FOUND THE SAME TYPE OF
09:44:48AM CEMETERIES IN MAKING GREAT MOVEMENT AND STRIDES TOWARD
09:44:52AM CORRECTING THIS.
09:44:53AM AND IT WASN'T YOU WHO CAUSED IT.
09:44:55AM BUT IT IS YOU WHO CAN MAKE THE CHANGE IN THE FUTURE HERE IN
09:44:59AM TAMPA.
09:45:00AM TAMPA IS A GROWING CITY.
09:45:03AM PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE LIKE CRAZY.
09:45:06AM WE SET THE PACE FOR A LOT OF OTHER CITIES AND STATES.
09:45:11AM YOU HAVE THE TO HELP ZION, TO HELP MY PEOPLE, TO HELP THE
09:45:18AM PEOPLE WHO ARE BURIED THERE.
09:45:21AM TO SHOW SOME RESPECT, TO GIVE BACK TO THE FAMILIES IN NEED.
09:45:24AM AND WITH THAT BEING SAID I WOULD LIKE TO SET UP A MEETING
09:45:31AM WITH EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU AND BOARD MEMBERS TO DISCUSS THIS
09:45:35AM LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
09:45:36AM PLEASE, PLEASE, BE A BODY OF STRENGTH.
09:45:39AM MAKE MOVEMENT.
09:45:40AM MAKE STRIDE.
09:45:41AM WE NEED YOUR HELP TODAY.
09:45:43AM THANK YOU.
09:45:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:45:45AM MA'AM -- MA'AM, PLEASE, MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE TIM IS COMING
09:45:52AM OUT AND HELP SET UP A MEETING WITH ALL OF US INDIVIDUALLY.
09:45:57AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:45:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID IT.
09:46:00AM WE WILL GET YOUR INFORMATION AND COORDINATE WITH ALL OF OUR
09:46:02AM OFFICES AND SET UP INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS.
09:46:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CUE PLEASE ONE MORE TIME.
09:46:10AM >> REBA IMMAN.
09:46:14AM I AM A RESIDENT HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:46:16AM PUBLIC HOUSING IN ROBLES PARK WHEN THOSE BODIES WERE FOUND.
09:46:21AM IT IS WITH MEANS A GREAT DEAL TO ME PERSONALLY -- PERSONALLY
09:46:27AM BECAUSE I WAS A RESIDENT THERE.
09:46:29AM I WATCHED THIS PROCESS.
09:46:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA COPY FOR THE CLERK?
09:46:38AM >> YES, I DO.
09:46:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DO?
09:46:40AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:46:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MA'AM, MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE IS THE GENTLEMAN AT
09:46:48AM THE DOOR.
09:46:49AM HE WILL HELP COORDINATE.
09:46:50AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:46:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:46:53AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:46:57AM HAPPY NEW YEAR.
09:46:58AM A LOT GOING ON THIS MORNING.
09:46:59AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
09:47:02AM I CAME HERE WANTING TO TALK ABOUT ONE THING, BUT A LOT GOING
09:47:07AM ON WITH THIS QUESTIONNAIRE.
09:47:09AM YOU KNOW, I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT -- LET ME MAKE A FEW
09:47:13AM COMMENTS ABOUT IT.
09:47:14AM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE WOULD DO WHEN NO ONE IS
09:47:17AM WATCHING.
09:47:18AM SO ANYBODY WOULD DO -- A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD DO A LOT TO GET
09:47:25AM AN ENDORSEMENT FROM AN AGENCY WITH THE PEOPLE THAT THEY NEED
09:47:28AM THE ENDORSEMENT FROM.
09:47:32AM THEY ARE RELYING ON SELLING YOUR SOULS OUT ON A
09:47:36AM QUESTIONNAIRE TO GET AN ENDORSEMENT.
09:47:39AM I WISH THIS ARTICLE WOULD HAVE CAME OUT LATER TO SEE WHO
09:47:42AM SIGNED IT.
09:47:42AM TO SEE WHAT THEY SAID.
09:47:43AM BECAUSE IT WOULD -- HOPEFULLY WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE PUBLIC.
09:47:48AM BUT ANYHOW, A LOT GOING ON AND I HOPE YOU GUYS TAKE IT
09:47:51AM SERIOUSLY.
09:47:52AM NOT A BLACK AND WHITE THING.
09:47:54AM A RIGHT THING.
09:47:54AM A RIGHT THING.
09:47:56AM REBA TALKED ABOUT ZION.
09:48:02AM I LIVED IN ROBLES PARK, 212 EAST KENTUCKY.
09:48:05AM WHERE THEY HAVE IT ROPED OFF, THAT GRAVE SITES WAS RIGHT
09:48:08AM UNDER OUR APARTMENTS.
09:48:09AM 212 EAST KENTUCKY.
09:48:12AM SO I AM -- IT IS AMAZING.
09:48:13AM I MEAN, WE FIND OUT SO MUCH -- I AM GETTING EMOTIONAL NOW.
09:48:18AM WE FIND OUT SO MUCH THAT GOES ON AND IT COMES UP LATER.
09:48:24AM ALL THE HELL THAT GOES ON IN ROBLES PARK.
09:48:28AM JUST EVERYTHING -- AND THERE IS A CEMETERY THERE.
09:48:31AM UNSETTLED BODIES.
09:48:33AM UNSETTLED REST.
09:48:34AM I HAVE BEEN GETTING PHONE CALLS IN REGARDS TO THE -- THE R-3
09:48:43AM MONEY.
09:48:43AM PEOPLE HAVE APPLIED FOR IT.
09:48:46AM THEY ARE BEING TOLD THERE ARE MO MORE FUNDS.
09:48:50AM I HAVE BEEN RINGING THE BELL FOR THIS FOR MONTHS SAYING WHAT
09:48:54AM HAPPENS -- THIS IS A BAND-AID.
09:48:55AM WE ARE FEEDING THE DEVELOPERS, RIGHT.
09:48:58AM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE MONEY RUNS OUT.
09:49:03AM THINGS HAVE NOT CHANGED.
09:49:06AM RENT IS STILL INCREASING.
09:49:08AM WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT TO DO THE RENT STABILIZATION, AT LEAST
09:49:12AM TRIED IT FOR A YEAR.
09:49:13AM RENT IS INCREASING AND PEOPLE ARE STILL WHERE THEY ARE.
09:49:16AM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE MONEY RUNS OUT?
09:49:18AM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE MONEY RUNS OUT?
09:49:21AM WE CAN NOT OPERATE IN FEAR.
09:49:24AM WE CAN NOT OPERATE IN FEAR.
09:49:27AM WHEN PEOPLE ARE -- ARE SUFFERING.
09:49:30AM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE MONEY RUNS OUT?
09:49:35AM THANK YOU.
09:49:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:49:38AM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
09:49:50AM PUBLIC COMMENT?
09:49:56AM OKAY.
09:49:56AM I BELIEVE WE HAVE MICHAEL RANDOLPH ONLINE.
09:50:00AM MICHAEL, ARE YOU THERE?
09:50:02AM >> YES, I'M HERE.
09:50:03AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:50:04AM AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
09:50:05AM AND GOOD MORNING.
09:50:06AM A NEW YEAR AND A NEW ATTITUDE.
09:50:09AM 2022 PREPARED US FOR THE START OF 2023, WHICH IS GOING TO
09:50:16AM TAKE US TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
09:50:17AM TODAY, I WANT TO SPEAK OF THE SILENT MAJORITY WHO FEEL THAT
09:50:22AM THEY ARE LEFT BEHIND.
09:50:23AM WHO FEEL THAT NO ONE HAS THEIR BACK.
09:50:26AM THOSE WHO GO TO BED EVERY NIGHT WONDERING IF THEY ARE GOING
09:50:30AM TO BE PLACED OUT -- I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THE VULNERABLE
09:50:38AM POPULATION FROM THE CITIZENS, TO FIXED INCOME, LOW INCOME,
09:50:45AM THOSE WITH HANGING ON THE CORNER, DISABLED, BUSINESSES
09:50:49AM THREATENED, THREATENED BY CRIME, THE HOMELESS, THOSE
09:50:52AM RETURNING FROM PRISON, VICTIMS OF CRIME, AND THOSE WHO
09:50:56AM COMMIT CRIME.
09:50:57AM THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING FROM SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL
09:51:04AM HEALTH.
09:51:04AM LAST YEAR OUR PROJECT, WHICH WAS GOING TO START THIS YEAR,
09:51:07AM WILL INCREASE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO FEEL
09:51:10AM LIKE THEY ARE LEFT BEHIND.
09:51:11AM THOSE PROJECTS INCLUDE WEST TAMPA BUILDING, JOB CREATION
09:51:17AM CENTER, WHICH IS GOING TO CREATE 100 NEW BUSINESSES,
09:51:23AM HOME-BASED BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:51:24AM THE WEST TAMPA PUBLIC SAFETY INDUSTRY AND ADDRESS THE
09:51:30AM BUSINESSES IN WEST TAMPA THAT ARE LEAVING.
09:51:32AM THE WEST TAMPA ENGAGEMENT PROGRAM IN WHICH WE HAVE SEVEN
09:51:41AM MEETINGS LAST YEAR.
09:51:42AM WE PLAN TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS THIS YEAR.
09:51:44AM THE PARTNERSHIP.
09:51:46AM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND RELATED GROUPS.
09:51:49AM AND RELATIONSHIP WITH FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
09:52:00AM WHICH WILL LEAD TO HUNDREDS OF JOBS FOR RESIDENTS IN WEST
09:52:04AM TAMPA.
09:52:04AM THIS YEAR 2023, WE WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW WE HAVE YOUR BACK.
09:52:08AM NO ONE WILL BE LEFT BEHIND IN WEST TAMPA.
09:52:14AM WEST TAMPA WILL SEE OUR OFFICE OPEN UP THIS YEAR TO START
09:52:18AM RECEIVING GUESTS, AS WELL AS THOSE WHO NEEDED JOBS RIGHT NOW
09:52:25AM WITH CURRENTLY TAKING APPLICATION FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO WORK
09:52:29AM WITH CONSTRUCTION AND THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
09:52:33AM TRANSPORTATION.
09:52:33AM THESE ARE GOOD JOBS.
09:52:34AM EVEN IF YOU HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD, WE CAN GET YOU A JOB
09:52:40AM WITH GOOD PAY.
09:52:41AM 2023 WE HOPE IS THE YEAR TO BE THE BEST THAT WE CAN BE.
09:52:47AM AGAIN FOR THOSE PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA, I HEAR YOU ON THE
09:52:53AM PHONE.
09:52:53AM THERE IS CONCERN WHETHER OR NOT YOU WILL BE PRICED OUT OF
09:52:57AM THE COMMUNITY.
09:52:58AM THOSE WHO LIVE IN FEAR WILL CHANGE THE NARRATIVE 2023.
09:53:02AM IT'S GOING TO BE A YEAR WHERE EVERYBODY BENEFITS AND NO ONE
09:53:07AM IS LEFT BEHIND.
09:53:08AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:53:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
09:53:11AM MISS STROHMEYER, ARE YOU WITH US?
09:53:16AM >>CLERK: SHE DID NOT LOG IN.
09:53:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO
09:53:22AM MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME?
09:53:26AM THANK YOU.
09:53:26AM ACCORDING TO A VOTE MADE BY CITY COUNCILMEMBERS, WE AT THIS
09:53:33AM TIME WILL BE TAKING AGENDA ITEM 79-84 NO?
09:53:53AM 83, 84, EXCUSE ME.
09:53:56AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
09:54:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION WAS MADE TO TAKE THE CHARTER
09:54:07AM AMENDMENTS FIRST BEFORE.
09:54:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS COUNCIL'S INTENTION.
09:54:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 62, RIGHT, FOR THE CRA.
09:54:15AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: CORRECT.
09:54:16AM BUT I THOUGHT THE MOTION WAS TO TAKE THE -- TAKE THE CHARTER
09:54:20AM AMENDMENTS AS ITEM NUMBER 3.
09:54:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS WHAT THE VOTE WAS MADE FOR.
09:54:24AM AND NOW MAKING IT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:54:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT THIS WAS 2.
09:54:28AM BUT OKAY.
09:54:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS WHAT I HAVE ASKED FOR AND COUNCILMAN
09:54:33AM GUDES ASKED TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR THE CHARTER AMENDMENTS TO
09:54:36AM BE TAKEN BEFORE THAT.
09:54:37AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:38AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
09:54:40AM THE FIRST ONE WE WILL BE HEARING.
09:54:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION TO OPEN, PLEASE.
09:54:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 79.
09:54:51AM RIGHT, MR. SHELBY.
09:54:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD BE 80.
09:54:55AM 80-84.
09:54:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO OPEN 9:30 BY COUNCILMAN
09:55:01AM MANISCALCO.
09:55:02AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:55:03AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:55:04AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 80.
09:55:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:55:11AM PRESENT TODAY ARE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
09:55:14AM THIS IS REGARDING TO THE AMENDMENT SECTION 9.01.
09:55:22AM IF COUNCIL WISHES TO PROCEED TO OPEN IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:55:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TO AGENDA ITEM
09:55:30AM NUMBER 80?
09:55:35AM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
09:55:37AM >>CLERK: NO ONE REGISTERED.
09:55:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:55:41AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:55:43AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:55:44AM TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON -- I AM SORRY.
09:55:47AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CAN YOU READ AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 80.
09:55:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
09:55:53AM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER E2022-8, CH 2, ORDINANCE
09:56:00AM PRESENT TODAY ARE SECOND READING AND ORDINANCE RELATING TO
09:56:03AM THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, SUBMITTING TO
09:56:06AM ELECTORS OF THE CITY A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE REVISED
09:56:09AM CHARTER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA OF 1975 AS AMENDED TO AMEND
09:56:13AM SECTION 9.01 TO CLARIFY THAT STANDING BOARDS SHALL BE
09:56:17AM CREATED BY CITY COUNCIL BY ORDINANCE WITHOUT REQUIRING THE
09:56:20AM MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:56:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
09:56:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:56:26AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:56:28AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:56:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:56:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:56:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT BASED ON THE
09:56:35AM FACT NOT ONLY THIS ADMINISTRATION BUT THE PRIOR
09:56:37AM ADMINISTRATION SET UP A -- AN AVENUE TO THE PUBLIC TO HAVE,
09:56:43AM IN MY OPINION, THE BEST OF EVERYTHING, THAT WAS SETTING
09:56:45AM INDIVIDUALS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO SIT IN AS THE CHARTER
09:56:48AM REVIEW COMMITTEE, SOME APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR.
09:56:51AM SOME APPOINTED BY THE COUNCIL.
09:56:53AM THAT WAS NOT DONE THIS TIME.
09:56:54AM JUST THE COUNCILMEMBERS DOING IT ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT THE
09:56:57AM CHARTER REVIEW, SO, THEREFORE, I WILL BE OPPOSING MOST OF
09:57:01AM THESE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:57:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
09:57:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
09:57:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:57:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:57:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:57:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:57:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:57:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
09:57:13AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA AND CITRO VOTING NO.
09:57:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 81.
09:57:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, COUNCIL, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
09:57:30AM ATTORNEY.
09:57:30AM AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO PLACING ON THE BALLOT.
09:57:34AM >> CLARIFICATION AS SET FORTH IN SECTION 6.03 RELATING TO
09:57:41AM THE MAYOR'S NOMINATION OF HEAD OF DEPARTMENTS AND TO OTHER
09:57:45AM CITY EMPLOYEES.
09:57:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A QUESTION.
09:57:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:57:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:57:52AM I HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS.
09:57:54AM I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND MISS TRAVIS WHO IS HERE, IF I MAY,
09:57:58AM FOR MISS TRAVIS, IF I MAY, I VOTED NO ON THIS.
09:58:02AM ORIGINALLY I VOTED NO.
09:58:04AM IT CAME UP OUTSIDE OF THE CHARTER WORKSHOP.
09:58:07AM AND THE NEXT TIME YOU KIND OF SPOKE TO IT.
09:58:09AM CAN YOU JUST TELL ME.
09:58:11AM WHEN I READ THIS, I -- -- CALL ME WHATEVER, BUT I DON'T SEE
09:58:15AM THE SIGNIFICANT BURDEN IN THIS.
09:58:17AM TELL ME HOW THIS WILL BURDEN YOUR JOB.
09:58:19AM BECAUSE I -- I TAKE YOU VERY SERIOUSLY, SO TO SPEAK.
09:58:23AM I TAKE EVERYONE.
09:58:25AM BUT PARTICULARLY YOU.
09:58:26AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:58:27AM NICOLE TRAVIS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
09:58:31AM OPPORTUNITY.
09:58:31AM HAPPY NEW YEAR.
09:58:32AM THE COMMENTS I MADE REGARDING THIS CHARTER CHANGE WAS
09:58:35AM REGARDING RECRUITING C SUITE EXECUTIVES.
09:58:41AM IF YOU WERE HIRING A PERSON IN THE C SUITE, AND THEY ARE
09:58:47AM CONFIRMATION ISN'T IN BALANCE, IS IN THE WIND, CHANCES ARE
09:58:52AM THEY WON'T BELIEVE A JOB KNOWING THAT THEY HAVE TO BE --
09:58:57AM THEY WON'T NECESSARILY GET THIS JOB.
09:58:59AM IT IS VERY -- WHEN YOU ARE IN THE.PUBLIC SECTOR, ONCE YOU
09:59:02AM PUT IN AN APPLICATION, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE IN A
09:59:05AM COMFORTABLE -- I WANT TO SAY COMFORTABLE, BUT IN A JOB THAT
09:59:08AM YOU LIKE AND THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND YOU ARE DOING A GREAT
09:59:11AM JOB.
09:59:11AM IT IS DIFFICULT TO RECRUIT FOR C SUITE EXECUTIVES, TOP
09:59:16AM TALENT, THAT WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL A CONFIRMATION NOT
09:59:21AM KNOWING WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD HAVE THE POSITION.
09:59:22AM AND THE WAY THIS IS WRITTEN, YOU WILL -- YOU CAN'T APPOINT
09:59:27AM THAT PERSON TO THE POSITION.
09:59:29AM THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE IN ANOTHER POSITION OR IN THE WIND.
09:59:32AM SO ESSENTIALLY, I WOULD HAVE NEVER NECESSARILY TAKEN THIS
09:59:36AM JOB KNOWING THAT I WAS LEAVING A CITY THAT LOVED ME AND I
09:59:41AM LOVED IT.
09:59:42AM WORKED WELL KNOWING THAT THERE IS A CHANCE THAT I MAY NOT
09:59:45AM GET THE VOTES FOR THIS POSITION.
09:59:47AM SO IT JUST MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT RECRUITING FOR TOP
09:59:51AM TALENT.
09:59:52AM ESPECIALLY AT MY LEVEL, C SUITE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND
09:59:58AM ABOVE.
09:59:58AM THAT IS WHAT I WAS SAYING.
10:00:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:00:01AM IF I MAY ASK FOR MR. SHELBY OR ANYBODY THAT CAN INQUIRE ON
10:00:05AM THIS ISSUE.
10:00:06AM ISN'T THERE ALREADY SOME SORT OF DOUBT WHENEVER YOU GO INTO
10:00:09AM A JOB, YOU ARE THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF WHATEVER IT MAY BE,
10:00:13AM YOU WILL BE SUBJECT TO A CITY COUNCIL CONFIRMATION ANYWAY,
10:00:17AM ISN'T THAT DOUBT ALREADY THERE AND FURTHER SOLIDIFY
10:00:21AM COUNCIL'S ROLE IN THIS.
10:00:22AM OTHERWISE -- AGAIN -- I SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS QUESTION
10:00:25AM PRIVATELY AND I APOLOGIZE, COUNCIL, FOR THIS.
10:00:28AM BUT DOES THIS SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE WHAT IT IN EFFECT NOW?
10:00:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ULTIMATELY -- MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
10:00:39AM ATTORNEY.
10:00:39AM ULTIMATELY IN THE CHARTER IN ANOTHER FORM WITH REGARD TO --
10:00:43AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE, IT CHANGES THE CONCEPT OF
10:00:47AM APPOINTMENT TO A NOMINATION.
10:00:50AM AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THE NOMINATION OF THE MAYOR IS THEN
10:00:56AM SUBMITTED TO CITY COUNCIL WHO THEN DOES THE APPOINTMENT.
10:00:59AM AND THIS CAME UP, AS YOU KNOW, BASED ON ISSUES THAT CAME
10:01:03AM BEFORE COUNCIL WITH REGARD TO INTERPRETATION AND ULTIMATELY
10:01:09AM WHAT YOU HAVE IS ALSO THE CONCEPT OF THE 2018 CHARTER REVIEW
10:01:20AM COMMISSION ADDED LANGUAGE TO ALLOW THAT IF THE COUNCIL CHOSE
10:01:23AM TO DENY THAT, THAT THE MAYOR CAN RESUBMIT WITH THE SAME
10:01:33AM NAME.
10:01:33AM CLARIFIES THE PROCESS AND ADDS NEW LANGUAGE TO CREATE AND
10:01:41AM DEFINE THE CONCEPT OF MAKING AN INTERIM APPOINTMENT WHERE
10:01:44AM TIMES IN THE PAST WHEREBY NAMING OF AN INTERIM APPOINTMENT
10:01:49AM ALLOWS SOMEONE TO REMAIN IN THAT POSITION FOR A LONGER
10:01:52AM PERIOD THAN WHAT THIS NOW SAYS THE MAYOR NOW NEEDS TO ACT IN
10:01:55AM A PERIOD OF 90 DAYS AND CAN BE EXTENDED BY THE MAYOR FOR AN
10:02:00AM ADDITIONAL 90 DAYS.
10:02:02AM WHAT THIS DOES OBVIOUSLY IS BASED ON COUNCILMAN GUDES
10:02:07AM SUGGESTION BASED ON COUNCIL'S EXPERIENCE WITH REGARDS TO THE
10:02:12AM PROCESS AND THE INTENTION IS TO ACTUALLY CLARIFY THAT WHICH
10:02:15AM WAS IN THE CHARTER, WHICH WAS TO GIVE THE CITY COUNCIL THE
10:02:19AM SAY OVER DEPARTMENT HEADS AND GREATER.
10:02:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:02:24AM AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:02:26AM FOR ME FOUR VOTES IN FAVOR OF THIS.
10:02:28AM THEY COULD BE VETOED BY THE MAYOR.
10:02:30AM I WANT TO INQUIRE MORE AND I SHOULD -- I APOLOGIZE.
10:02:33AM I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT MORE AND WHATNOT.
10:02:36AM I WANT TO SPEAK WITH STAFF MORE ON THIS.
10:02:38AM APPEARS TO PASS AND GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
10:02:40AM IF IT IS IN FACT VETOED BY THE MAYOR, I MAY SWITCH MY VOTE
10:02:44AM ON IT.
10:02:44AM I MAY DO THAT.
10:02:45AM BUT I WANT TO INQUIRE WITH MORE PEOPLE ON IT.
10:02:48AM I DON'T WANT TO JUMP BACK AND FORTH.
10:02:50AM THAT IS JUST NOT MY STYLE.
10:02:51AM THIS WILL PASS TODAY, BUT I DO WANT TO TALK FURTHER ON IT IF
10:02:55AM IT COMES BACK TO US.
10:02:56AM SO THANK YOU.
10:02:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:02:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THE LAST TIME WE BROUGHT UP THIS, IT WAS A
10:03:02AM LITTLE MORE ABSTRACT, AND IT WAS BASED ON WHAT HAD HAPPENED
10:03:05AM WITH THE POLICE CHIEF.
10:03:07AM GUESS WHAT, WE ARE HERE AGAIN.
10:03:08AM AND SO WHAT I AM HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC IS VERY CLEAR.
10:03:12AM THAT THEY DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
10:03:14AM AND THAT IS WHAT THIS DOES.
10:03:16AM THIS PREVENTS THAT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN.
10:03:20AM THE PUBLIC IS DEMANDING TO BE A PART OF THE NEXT POLICE
10:03:24AM CHIEF CHOICE.
10:03:25AM THEY ARE DEMANDING IT.
10:03:26AM THAT IS ALL I HEAR.
10:03:27AM I HAD A NICE LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT IT YESTERDAY.
10:03:30AM SO I AM WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORTING THAT FOR THAT REASON
10:03:35AM ALONE, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, WHILE I UNDERSTAND MISS TRAVIS'S
10:03:40AM CONCERN, WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE THAT STARTS A JOB AND ALL OF US
10:03:45AM CAN SAY, I DON'T THINK SO.
10:03:46AM AND THEN THAT PERSON IS STUCK.
10:03:48AM SO I -- I DO NOT THINK THAT JUST PLOPPING SOMEONE INTO A JOB
10:03:56AM AND MAKING US SAY, OH, WELL, THEY ALREADY MOVED HERE AND --
10:04:02AM I FEEL THAT IS COERCION AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
10:04:05AM I WANT TO ABSOLUTELY APPROVE SOMEONE FOR THE WORK THEY HAVE
10:04:11AM DONE AND YOU KNOW WHAT, RARELY IS IT AN ISSUE.
10:04:14AM I TRUST OUR STAFF.
10:04:15AM THEY -- FOR THE MOST PART.
10:04:17AM I CANNOT IMAGINE A TIME WHERE -- WHERE GENERALLY DEPARTMENT
10:04:23AM HEADS AREN'T BROUGHT US TO WITH -- WITH A STELLAR RESUME.
10:04:26AM GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:04:27AM THE CHANCE FOR US TO ACTUALLY TALK TO THEM AHEAD OF TIME.
10:04:30AM THIS IS COMING UP BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE POLICE
10:04:34AM CHIEF.
10:04:34AM AND I AM GOING TO HOPE THAT THIS TIME WE WILL ALL HAVE A
10:04:39AM CHANCE TO TALK TO THAT PERSON BEFORE THEY ARE NOMINATED.
10:04:41AM WE WILL ALL HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC HAS.
10:04:44AM AND THAT, IN MY OPINION, AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR MR. GUDES,
10:04:49AM BUT FOR ME, THAT IS WHAT THIS IS DOING.
10:04:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:04:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S COMMONSENSE.
10:04:59AM IT WAS A FLAW.
10:05:00AM THE SYSTEM WAS IN PLACE, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A SITUATION THAT
10:05:04AM ARISES AND YOU ARE STUCK, YOU NEED TO FIX THE PROCESS.
10:05:09AM THE PROCESS WAS FLAWED.
10:05:11AM THIS COUNCIL WANTED TO DENY SOMEONE, MR. MANISCALCO WAS THE
10:05:21AM SWING VOTE.
10:05:21AM BECAUSE HE FELT THAT, YOU KNOW -- IT IS GOING TO GO ON AND
10:05:26AM ON AND ON AND ON.
10:05:27AM SO TO SAY THAT YOU WON'T FIX A PROCESS THAT IS BROKEN IS
10:05:32AM ASININE TO ME.
10:05:34AM I RESPECT MISS TRAVIS TREMENDOUSLY.
10:05:37AM SHE KNOW I DO, BUT WHEN YOU APPLY FOR A JOB IN HOPES OF
10:05:42AM GETTING A JOB, THERE IS A PROCESS TO GETTING A JOB.
10:05:45AM SO THE MERE FACT THAT YOU -- LEAVE A JOB TO GET A JOB.
10:05:51AM I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT.
10:05:52AM MOST PEOPLE WHEN THEY -- WHEN THEY SAY THEY GOT THE JOB,
10:05:55AM THEY -- THEY TAKE THE JOB.
10:05:57AM BUT FOR ME, IT IS THE PROCESS.
10:06:00AM THE PROCESS IS FLAWED AND THE VERBIAGE IS FLAWED.
10:06:05AM TO NOMINATE SOMEONE, WE APPOINT THAT PERSON.
10:06:09AM AFTER THAT IT IS THE MAYOR'S BABY.
10:06:11AM WHOEVER -- OUR JOB TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:06:14AM TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE.
10:06:16AM OUR JOB -- THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE TO NOMINATE.
10:06:19AM HOW COME I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET THIS PERSON.
10:06:22AM TO HEAR THEIR BACKGROUND.
10:06:24AM LET ME FEEL THIS PERSON OUT.
10:06:26AM FROM DAY ONE, I SAID HOW COME I -- HOW CAN YOU BRING PEOPLE
10:06:31AM BEFORE US AND WE JUST APPOINT SOME PEOPLE?
10:06:33AM THAT'S WRONG.
10:06:35AM IT IS TOTALLY WRONG.
10:06:36AM AND I CAN'T SIT BACK AND JUST SUPPORT THINGS THAT ARE WRONG.
10:06:40AM I WANT TO FIX THINGS AND MAKE THEM RIGHT FOR THE
10:06:43AM ADMINISTRATION.
10:06:43AM NOT BECAUSE OF A STRONG FORM OF MAYOR GOVERNMENT, BUT
10:06:48AM BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
10:06:49AM I WILL BE SUPPORTING IT AND THAT'S WHY I PUT IT UP.
10:06:52AM WE KNOW THE CHAOS WE WENT THROUGH WHEN WE HAD A FLAW SYSTEM
10:06:55AM AND WE CAN'T BE AFRAID POLITICALLY OR WHATEVER NOT TO FIX
10:06:59AM THINGS.
10:06:59AM THAT IS WHAT THIS COUNCIL IS SUPPOSED TO DO.
10:07:02AM WE ARE THE GOVERNINGY OF THE CITY.
10:07:05AM IT IS OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOUSE FUNCTIONS PROPERLY
10:07:08AM REGARDLESS.
10:07:09AM BUT MAKE SURE THAT THE RULES ARE PUT IN PLACE.
10:07:12AM I AM SORRY, RULES ARE IN PLACE AND WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE
10:07:16AM INTERPRETATION OF THE RULES.
10:07:17AM FOR ME, THE RULES THAT THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE, THE
10:07:22AM INTERPRETATION IS OFF.
10:07:22AM WE COULD DO NOTHING ABOUT IT BUT HERE WE HAVE A CHANCE TO
10:07:26AM FIX THE INTERPRETATION IN THE RULE.
10:07:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:07:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:31AM AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, THE PRESIDENT HAS THEIR NOMINEE FOR
10:07:34AM SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.
10:07:35AM AND THERE IS A LENGTHY PROCESS.
10:07:37AM THIS IS TO BE WHY USUALLY ON A GRANDER SCALE.
10:07:40AM AND CABINET MEMBER.
10:07:42AM A CABINET MEMBER HAVE TO BE APPROVED AND THOSE ARE ARE
10:07:46AM PEOPLE -- LIFE-CHANGING THINGS WHERE PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO A
10:07:49AM DIFFERENT AREA.
10:07:49AM SERVING IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY.
10:07:51AM I DON'T SEE ANY HARM OR FOUL.
10:07:54AM BUT MY RECOLLECTION IN THE TIME I HAVE BEEN HERE HAS ONLY
10:07:59AM BEEN ONE CONTROVERSIAL ONCE.
10:08:01AM NOT CONTENTIOUS VOTES FOR APPROVAL OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
10:08:04AM ONLY ONCE.
10:08:05AM I HEARD A LOT FROM THE PUBLIC REGARDING THAT ISSUE.
10:08:08AM AS COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED, I WAS A SWING VOTE, MEANING I
10:08:12AM GOT EVEN MORE HEAT WITH IT, BUT, HOWEVER, I THINK ABOUT IF
10:08:16AM WE WERE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
10:08:17AM AND THAT OTHER PERSON'S SHOES, WOULD IT EFFECT ME?
10:08:21AM NO.
10:08:21AM BECAUSE I WOULD NOMINATE THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST
10:08:25AM INDIVIDUAL FOR THAT POSITION WHERE I WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY.
10:08:27AM IF THAT PERSON HAD SUCH A STELLAR RESUME, WHAT IS THE WORRY.
10:08:32AM ONLY HAVE BEEN CONTROVERSIAL ONE TIME.
10:08:34AM I DON'T SEE THIS STRONG-ARMING OR TYING THE HANDS OF THE
10:08:38AM MAYOR OR -- AGAIN, IF I WERE IN THAT POSITION, I WOULD SAYS
10:08:42AM IT A CHECKS AND BALANCES SYSTEM.
10:08:44AM AGAIN, WE TOOK A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:08:47AM AND A LOT OF PUBLIC OPINION WITH REGARDING TO IS A MORE
10:08:51AM RECENT SITUATION AND I DON'T SEE ANY HARM OR FOUL IN THIS.
10:08:55AM THANK YOU.
10:08:55AM THAT'S IT.
10:08:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:08:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:09:00AM TO FOLLOW WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES SAYS, ALL THIS IS DOING IS
10:09:04AM FIXING THE MISINTERPRETATION OF THIS PART OF THE CHARTER IN
10:09:08AM THE PAST.
10:09:08AM IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE MAIN THRUST OF WHAT THE CHARTER SAID
10:09:12AM BEFORE.
10:09:12AM AND THAT A MAYOR CAN NEVER APPOINT SOMEBODY WITHOUT CITY
10:09:16AM COUNCIL APPROVAL.
10:09:17AM AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANY CASES -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS BEEN
10:09:22AM HERE A LOT LONGER THAN I HAVE -- BUT I DON'T KNOW ANY CASES
10:09:26AM WHERE CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T APPROVE SOMEONE.
10:09:29AM ONE CASE THAT WAS CONTROVERSY SINCE I HAVE BEEN COUNCIL
10:09:32AM MAYBE PUSHED A LITTLE BIT MORE.
10:09:34AM AND MAYOR SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO THE PUBLIC AND NOT PUSH
10:09:38AM THAT THROUGH WITH A POLITICAL FIGHT.
10:09:39AM WHAT HAS HAPPENED -- AND MARTY MENTIONED THE CASE FROM
10:09:43AM SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
10:09:44AM THE LAST MAYOR MISINTERPRETED THE CHARTER AND ILLEGALLY
10:09:48AM ALLOWED A VERY, VERY GOOD PERSON TO STAY LONGER BECAUSE OF A
10:09:52AM MISINTERPRETATION OF THE CHARTER AND LEAVING THE WORD
10:09:55AM "INTERIM" IN.
10:09:56AM WE TRIED TO FIX IT IN THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND IT
10:10:00AM DIDN'T QUITE FIX IT AND TRYING TO FINISH IT ON THIS WAY.
10:10:03AM MAYOR'S PEOPLE ARE SAYING ON THESE AND THOSE THAT BEFORE
10:10:07AM DIDN'T GET PASSED THAT WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY THE STRONG
10:10:10AM MAYOR OF GOVERNMENT.
10:10:13AM THAT IS BS.
10:10:15AM WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE REVERSE.
10:10:16AM WE ARE TRYING TO FIX THE MISINTERPRETATIONS OF THAT PRIOR
10:10:20AM MAYOR'S AND CITY ATTORNEYS HAVE MISINTERPRETERED THE
10:10:26AM CHARTER, TAKE POWER AWAY FROM CITY COUNCIL AND RESTORE THAT
10:10:28AM POWER SO WE CAN HAVE CHECKS AND BALANCES.
10:10:31AM WE NEED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WHOEVER A MAYOR APPOINTS HAS
10:10:34AM TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
10:10:36AM AND THE ONLY REASON WE ARE DOING THIS BECAUSE OF THE
10:10:39AM MISINTERPRETATIONS.
10:10:40AM WHAT HAPPENED THIS LAST TIME -- NOT ONLY CONTROVERSIAL IN
10:10:46AM APPROVAL, WITH YOU THE INTERIM PHASE, THE MAYOR CALLED THE
10:10:50AM PERSON BY THE PERMANENT TITLE AND OFFENDED PEOPLE IN THE
10:10:54AM PUBLIC AND DISRESPECTFUL FROM CITY COUNCIL.
10:10:56AM YOU SHOULD BELIEVE IN AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AND AMERICAN
10:11:00AM DEMOCRACY OF A BALANCE OF POWERS.
10:11:02AM DEMOCRACY OF POWER ARE CHECKS AND BALANCES AND WE ARE VOTED
10:11:07AM IN TO BE THAT CHECK AGAINST THE MAYOR.
10:11:11AM NOT OUR CHOICE BUT THE CHARTER'S CHOICE AND BASIC AMERICAN
10:11:16AM DEMOCRACY.
10:11:17AM IN THIS VETOES, THAT IS A VOTE AGAINST DEMOCK A VIAND CHECKS
10:11:22AM AND BALANCES.
10:11:22AM I WILL SAY ALSO THAT THE -- JUST TO REMIND EVERYBODY, THE
10:11:28AM CHARTER ALWAYS HAD THE RIGHT FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CHANGE THE
10:11:31AM CHARTER.
10:11:31AM THAT WAS ALWAYS IN THE CHARTER.
10:11:32AM THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION WAS SET UP AD HOC FROM THE
10:11:38AM LAST CITY COUNCIL.
10:11:39AM THREE OF MY COLLEAGUES WERE ON THE BOARD AND THANK FOR THEM
10:11:42AM SETTING UP BECAUSE SEVERAL OF US WERE ON THE BOARD AND WE AS
10:11:45AM A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND THAT CITY COUNCIL VOTED AND
10:11:48AM THE VOTERS ULTIMATELY DECIDED TO PUT THE CHARTER REVIEW IN
10:11:51AM THE CHARTER.
10:11:52AM THAT WAS NOT IN THERE BEFORE FIVE YEARS AGO.
10:11:54AM THAT WAS SOMETHING NEW, SINCE PROBABLY GOING BACK TO 1975,
10:11:58AM THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE RIGHT TO REVIEW THE CHARTER.
10:12:01AM NOT THAT WE ARE BREAKING THE PROCESS.
10:12:04AM ANOTHER COMING OUT OF MAYOR'S OFFICE.
10:12:07AM NOT BREAKING THE OLD BUT LET'S NOT SPLIT STRAWS ON THIS.
10:12:12AM LET'S BE HONEST WITH THE PUBLIC AND TELL THE.PUBLIC WE
10:12:16AM BELIEVE IN CHECKS AND BALANCES, BELIEVE IN AMERICAN
10:12:18AM DEMOCRACY AND CORRECT AND ACCURATE DETERMINATIONS OF THE
10:12:22AM LAW.
10:12:23AM SOMETHING WE WILL BE FIXES TODAY OF HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF
10:12:26AM DOLLARS BECAUSE OF A MISINTERPRETATION OF A PRIOR CITY
10:12:30AM ATTORNEY.
10:12:30AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY FOLLOWS THE LAW AND THE
10:12:33AM LAW IS VOTED BY THE PUBLIC.
10:12:34AM CALLED THE CHARTER.
10:12:35AM AND IT IS THE CONSTITUTION OF THE CITY.
10:12:38AM THANK YOU.
10:12:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:12:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE LISTENED TO SOME VERY GOOD FACTUAL
10:12:46AM THINGS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE THINGS ARE NOT --
10:12:49AM I LIKE A STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
10:12:51AM I LIKE A CHECK AND BALANCE FROM THE COUNCIL.
10:12:53AM I ALWAYS HAVE.
10:12:54AM ALWAYS WORKED FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.
10:12:58AM THIS WAS ONE OF FOUR -- WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS HERE.
10:13:01AM I THINK 20 SOME ITEMS THAT WERE PRESENTED.
10:13:03AM AND IT WAS JUST ALLUDED TO THAT THE CHARTER REVIEW
10:13:06AM COMMISSION, THAT WE FORMED UP WITH COOPERATION WITH THE
10:13:10AM MAYOR'S OFFICE AT THAT TIME AND THE CITY COUNCILMEMBERS AND
10:13:12AM SOME OF US WERE HERE AND ANOTHER MAYOR WORKED.
10:13:15AM THIS HAS NEVER BEEN VETTED BY ANYONE OTHER THAN THE
10:13:21AM COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:13:21AM THAT IS NOT THE WAY THE PROCESS WAS SET.
10:13:24AM IT WAS SET THAT WE HAVE A CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE.
10:13:27AM WE TOOK EVERYTHING.
10:13:28AM THEY TOOK IT.
10:13:29AM AND THERE ARE FOUR OF US IN THIS ROOM THAT SERVED ON THAT
10:13:33AM COMMITTEE.
10:13:33AM THREE ARE NOW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:13:36AM ONE NOW IS THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
10:13:40AM IT DOES WORK.
10:13:40AM ; HOWEVER, WE DID NOT ABIDE WHICH THE SAME RULES WE SAID IN
10:13:46AM THE BEGINNING THAT THE CHARTER COMMITTEE WILL HAVE IT, VET
10:13:49AM IT OUT, AND COME BACK TO US JUST OTHER THINGS.
10:13:52AM THE CRA IS ANOTHER ONE.
10:13:55AM WE SIT AT THE CRA, THEY DO THE WORK AND THEY WANT FOR THEIR
10:14:01AM COMMUNITY AND BRING IT UP FOR A VOTE WITH US.
10:14:02AM THESE ARE THE THINGS WHEN YOU TALK OF TRANSPARENCY AND THE
10:14:06AM LEGALITY OF THINGS, IT IS NOT DONE THE SAME WAY NOW.
10:14:08AM SO WHAT DOES THE GENERAL PUBLIC WANT TO THINK?
10:14:15AM WASN'T INVESTIGATED BY NO ONE IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:14:17AM NONE THAT SAT ON THAT SIDE AS WE DID YEARS BACK.
10:14:20AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO THINK.
10:14:24AM BUT I HEARD THOSE WORDS VERY MANY TIMES.
10:14:28AM AND NEVER VETTED BY ANYONE OTHER THAN SEVEN COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:14:31AM THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE PROCESS WAS SET UP.
10:14:35AM SO THE PROCESS IS THE ONE THAT I AM STICKING WITH.
10:14:39AM AND I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THIS ITEM.
10:14:43AM I AM OPPOSED TO THE PROCESS OF WHICH IT HAS GOTTEN TO US
10:14:48AM WITHOUT A VOTE FROM NO ONE NOT A PUBLIC AND ADDING A ZONING
10:14:57AM HEARING WITH NO PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
10:14:59AM EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS IN ANOTHER FORUM.
10:15:01AM AND WHEN THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
10:15:04AM WHERE IS THE TRANSPARENCY.
10:15:06AM WHERE IS THE PUBLIC INPUT.
10:15:08AM I DON'T SEE IT ANYWHERE, DO YOU?
10:15:12AM THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I AM ASKING MYSELF.
10:15:15AM THAT'S WHY I HAVE TO THINK BAA AND THINK WHAT ACTUALLY
10:15:22AM HAPPENED FIVE FOR SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO.
10:15:27AM HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?
10:15:29AM TOOK OVER A YEAR.
10:15:29AM ABOUT A YEAR FOR THAT COMMITTEE OF CITIZEN REVIEW SPENDING
10:15:34AM THEIR TIME TRYING TO MAKE THE CITY BETTER.
10:15:36AM AND THEY DID.
10:15:37AM HOWEVER, THIS NEW PROCESS, THEY HAVE BEEN ZEROED OUT.
10:15:43AM WE DON'T NEED YOU ANYMORE.
10:15:44AM WE USED YOU ONCE.
10:15:46AM THAT WAS ENOUGH.
10:15:47AM AND I BELIEVE THAT IS WHERE THE FAULT IS.
10:15:50AM NOT IN US.
10:15:50AM NOT IN THE PUBLIC, BUT THE PROCESS OF WHICH WE HAVE COME TO
10:15:54AM THIS POINT TODAY.
10:15:55AM SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I AM BOTHERED WITH.
10:15:58AM I AM TROUBLED WITH.
10:15:59AM SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE FINE.
10:16:01AM I AGREE WITH THEM.
10:16:02AM BUT PROCEDURALLY, HOW CAN I VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT I KNOW
10:16:05AM WAS FLAWED FROM THE BEGINNING THOSE ARE THE THINGS I AM
10:16:12AM CONCERNED WITH.
10:16:14AM THE PROCESS WAS NOT FOLLOWED HOW ORIGINATED ALL OF THE
10:16:17AM THINGS HAPPENING TODAY FROM PUBLIC PARTICIPATION FROM THE
10:16:20AM MEMBERS OF THE REVIEW -- CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE.
10:16:22AM AND I AM TROUBLED BY THAT.
10:16:25AM AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL YOU.
10:16:29AM THANK YOU.
10:16:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:16:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF I AM CORRECT, ONCE WE CLOSE THIS, DON'T WE
10:16:37AM OPEN THIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:16:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES WE DO, OPEN IT FOUR PUBLIC COMMENT
10:16:44AM BEFORE WE CLOSE IT.
10:16:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE THAT IS HOW THE PUBLIC IS INVOLVED.
10:16:47AM SO JUST GOING TO SAY THAT.
10:16:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, JUST TO CLARIFY FOR
10:16:57AM THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.
10:16:58AM THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY
10:17:05AM COUNCIL.
10:17:05AM THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AS IT WAS SET UP DID NOT HAVE
10:17:09AM ACCESS TO PLACE THINGS ON THE BALLOTS.
10:17:11AM ULTIMATELY BY ORDINANCE CITY COUNCIL'S POSITION OF WHAT TO
10:17:15AM ACCEPT.
10:17:15AM COINCIDENTALLY OF THE WORK OF THE CHARTER REVIEW, CITY
10:17:20AM COUNCIL ACCEPTED EVERY ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:17:22AM ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS WAS TO CREATE A PROCESS FOR
10:17:25AM REVIEW OF THE CHARTER IN ADDITION TO BEING ABLE TO DO IT BY
10:17:29AM ORDINANCE BY THE CITY COUNCIL EVEN UP UNTIL DAY,
10:17:38AM EVERYTHING WAS DONE BY ORDINANCE OF CITY COUNCIL.
10:17:40AM IT IS ULTIMATELY WHERE THE BUCK STOPPED IS WHERE THE CITY
10:17:45AM COUNCIL CHOSE TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT AND EVERY
10:17:47AM CHARTER AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN PLACED BEFORE THE VOTERS
10:17:50AM HAVE BEEN DONE PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE, CHARTER AND STATE LAW
10:17:56AM TO BE ABLE TO PLACE THINGS ON THE BALLOT.
10:17:58AM WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS PROVISION HAS BEEN THERE FOR I
10:18:03AM BELIEVE -- FROM THE BEGINNING.
10:18:04AM I IT DON'T KNOW THE FULL HISTORY, BUT CERTAINLY HAVEN'T --
10:18:08AM HAVEN'T CHANGED BUT FOR THE -- CHANGES IN 2019 BY THE
10:18:13AM VOTERS.
10:18:14AM THE QUESTION THAT I WANT TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AT
10:18:19AM THIS POINT, AND I RAISED THIS EARLIER, IS THE CONCEPT OF THE
10:18:22AM VETO.
10:18:22AM AND WITHOUT GETTING INTO A LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, I SHALL
10:18:28AM SAY THAT SECTION 2.10 OF THE VETO SAYS IF ANY ORDINANCE
10:18:33AM SHALL NOT BE RETURNED TO THE COUNCIL WITHIN 14 DAYS
10:18:37AM PRESENTED TO THE MAYOR, THE SAME SHALL BE MADE EFFECTIVE IN
10:18:41AM LIGHT MANNER OF WHICH HE OR SHE SIGNED IT.
10:18:44AM THAT WOULD BE THE CASE BUT FOR THE FACT THAT THERE IS A SHOT
10:18:47AM CLOCK RUNNING.
10:18:48AM AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLY ON FROM THE DEADLINE THAT IS
10:18:52AM NECESSARY BY THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS TO GET THESE ITEMS
10:18:56AM PLACED ON THE BALLOT.
10:18:57AM IDEALLY, THIS SHOULD GO IF THEY ARE SIGNED BY THE MAYOR OR
10:19:03AM EVEN OVERRIDDEN BY -- OVERRIDDEN -- THE VETO OVERRIDDEN BY
10:19:09AM CITY COUNCIL, THE DATE THAT WILL BE IDEAL WOULD BE THE 13th
10:19:12AM OF JANUARY.
10:19:13AM THAT IS HOW SOON WE ARE FROM HAVING TO DO THIS.
10:19:15AM WE HAVE UP UNTIL THE 20th, BUT THEN WE HAVE TO, THEN,
10:19:19AM PROVIDE IT WITH SPANISH TRANSLATION WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DONE
10:19:24AM IN THE PAST.
10:19:24AM NORMALLY DONE BY THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION AND THEY NEED AN
10:19:27AM ADDITIONAL WEEK BY THE DEADLINE OF JANUARY 20 TO GET THAT
10:19:31AM DONE.
10:19:31AM COUNCIL'S NEXT MEETING DATE IS THE 19th OF JANUARY.
10:19:36AM WHICH A DAY BEFORE THE DEADLINE.
10:19:40AM SO IN EFFECT, WHAT HAPPENS IS, WITH IF THE CLOCK RUNS OUT TO
10:19:45AM GET THESE TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTION BY THE DEADLINE,
10:19:48AM THEN THE VOTERS WON'T HAVE A SAY IN MARCH.
10:19:50AM THAT IS JUST THE REALITY OF THE WAY THIS IS SCHEDULED.
10:19:53AM THE WAY THIS HAS COME FORTH.
10:19:56AM THE WAY THIS IS STRUCTURED.
10:19:57AM I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION THAT IS WHY IN
10:20:04AM MY OPINION IMPORTANT TO GET IT ON THE MAYOR'S DESK AS SOON
10:20:07AM AS POSSIBLE SO THE MAYOR CAN MAKE WHATEVER ACTION SHE DEEMS
10:20:10AM NECESSARY.
10:20:11AM THAT IS HER PREROGATIVE AND WE CAN, IN EFFECT, MOVE FORWARD
10:20:15AM FROM THERE.
10:20:16AM WHAT HAPPENS IS IF THAT DEADLINE IS MISSED, THE PRACTICAL
10:20:19AM EFFECT THAT THE VOTERS WILL NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
10:20:21AM A SAY IN MARCH.
10:20:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:20:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:20:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I RESPECT MY COLLEAGUE MR. MIRANDA.
10:20:28AM HE HAS BEEN HERE FOREVER AND HE KNOWS.
10:20:30AM BUT THE PROBLEM I HAVE IS THAT.
10:20:37AM WE DID HEAR FROM THE VOTERS.
10:20:38AM WE HEARD A LONG TIME WITH THIS ISSUE 81.
10:20:41AM WE LOOK AT ALL THE PROPOSED CHARTER AMOUNTS TO GO TO THE
10:20:44AM VOTERS AND I LOOK AT WHO VOTED BEFORE, 82, 83, 84, I SEE
10:20:52AM UNANIMOUS.
10:20:53AM CONFUSE THAT THE PROCESS IS FLAWED, YOU I SEE UNANIMOUS OUT
10:20:58AM OF THREE OUT OF THE SICK OF THEM.
10:21:00AM I WILL SAY WE HEARD FROM THE VOTERS AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE
10:21:03AM HERE AND REMOVE THE PROCESS.
10:21:04AM TAKE THE VOTE AND MOVE ON AND GET IT TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
10:21:08AM AND LET THE PROCESS GO HOW WE NEED TO GO.
10:21:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOLD IT UNTIL THE CITY ATTORNEY CAME
10:21:15AM BACK.
10:21:16AM HE SAID FIVE OR SIX THINGS ON ONE ITEM THAT WENT ALL THE WAY
10:21:20AM AROUND AND WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING TO FOLLOW.
10:21:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I PREFER TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY -- THE
10:21:26AM CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY BACK IN THE ROOM.
10:21:27AM BEFORE WE FINISH DISCUSSION.
10:21:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:22:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. SHELBY, I AM NOT BEING CRITICAL OF
10:22:09AM YOU.
10:22:09AM SPEAKING ON ONE ITEM.
10:22:12AM YOU WENT TO ONE ITEM AND ANOTHER ITEM AND ANOTHER ITEM AND
10:22:16AM IT --
10:22:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY.
10:22:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- KIND OF HARD TO FOLLOW, I GUESS.
10:22:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY, YES, SIR.
10:22:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME START BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR THE
10:22:26AM WORK THAT YOU DO.
10:22:26AM HOWEVER YOU DO IT.
10:22:28AM TO DISAGREE ON A COUPLE OF MINOR THINGS.
10:22:32AM THE LAST ITEM YOU SPOKE ABOUT WAS WHAT ABOUT -- ABOUT THE
10:22:36AM TIMING OF THE CLERK AND THE CITY COUNCIL GETTING IT ON THE
10:22:38AM BALLOT.
10:22:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MEETING THE DEADLINE BY THE SUPERVISOR OF
10:22:43AM ELECTIONS.
10:22:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: REMIND YOU SAID THAT TWICE IN THE
10:22:48AM BEGINNING OF THE MEETING AND YOU SAID IT AGAIN.
10:22:50AM WE FOLLOW THAT VERY CLEARLY.
10:22:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:22:53AM I JUST WANTED --
10:22:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE THAT THAT
10:22:58AM COMMITTEE WAS SET TO REVISE THE CITY CHARTER SHOULD NOT HAVE
10:23:01AM BEEN BROUGHT UP OR SHOULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP ON THIS VOTE?
10:23:05AM TO CLEAR THE AIR.
10:23:06AM WHEN WE WANTED TO CHANGE THE CHARTER THE LAST TIME, WE DID
10:23:10AM SET A PROCESS THROUGH THE FORMER MAYOR ON COUNCIL
10:23:15AM REPRESENTATION AND REPRESENTATION.
10:23:18AM AM I CORRECT OR NOT?
10:23:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
10:23:20AM I WAS ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN CREATING THAT PROCESS.
10:23:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GLAD YOU DID.
10:23:23AM AND I APPRECIATE THE JOB YOU DID.
10:23:25AM SO WHEN THIS CHARTER -- THIS IS A CHANGE OF THE SAME
10:23:29AM CHARTER.
10:23:29AM AM I CORRECT OR NOT?
10:23:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
10:23:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT IS.
10:23:33AM DID WE FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS OF WHICH THE PUBLIC HAD THE
10:23:37AM RIGHT OF INPUT FROM TWO GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES, THE COUNCIL
10:23:40AM AND THE MAYOR, COLLECTIVELY WORKING FOR THE BETTERMENT OF
10:23:44AM SOCIETY AND EVERYBODY WHO LIVES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
10:23:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, SIR --
10:23:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL SET UP A
10:23:54AM PROCESS SO ALL WAS ENCOMPASSED IN THE CHARTER REVIEW
10:23:57AM COMMITTEE THAT SAT IN MEETINGS TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND VOTED
10:24:01AM MANY TIMES TO HAVE CLARITY ON WHAT THEY FELT WAS BEST FOR
10:24:04AM THE COMMUNITY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:24:05AM AM I CORRECT OR NOT.
10:24:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
10:24:10AM CITY COUNCIL INITIATED THAT PROCESS BECAUSE THE CHARTER HAD
10:24:13AM NOT BEEN COMPREHENSIVELY REVIEWED SINCE THE 1970s.
10:24:19AM AND EVERY AMENDMENT SINCE THE 1970s HAVE BEEN INITIATED BY
10:24:23AM CITY COUNCIL AND PLACED ON THE BALLOT AFTER AN ORDINANCE
10:24:25AM APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
10:24:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SIR, IF THAT BODY HAS NOT BEEN INVOLVED
10:24:30AM YOU SAID SINCE THE '50s, THAT WE SET UP A PROCESS WHERE WE
10:24:34AM HAVE A REVIEW OF INDIVIDUALS, CITY ATTORNEY, THREE SITTING
10:24:40AM COUNCILMEMBERS AND A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
10:24:43AM I DON'T THINK THAT LARGE, BUT LARGE ENOUGH TO GET A CROSS
10:24:46AM SECTION OF EVERY UNDERSTANDING OF LIFE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:24:49AM THOSE WITH, WITHOUT, EVERYTHING THAT WAS DIFFERENT.
10:24:53AM AND I APPRECIATE THOSE WHO SERVED.
10:24:55AM SO THEN WE ARE NOW HAVING A REVIEW OF THE CHARTER WITHOUT
10:24:59AM THE REVIEW BY THE CITIZENS, AM I CORRECT OR NOT?
10:25:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITHOUT ROLLING FROM THAT PROCESS UNDER
10:25:06AM WHAT IS NOW SECTION 1010 OF THE CHARTER.
10:25:08AM THERE IS ALSO SECTION 150-11 UNDER THE CHARTER AMENDMENT
10:25:12AM THAT STATES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY PROPOSE AMENDMENTS BY
10:25:15AM ORDINANCE TO THIS CHARTER.
10:25:17AM UPON ADOPTION OF INITIATING ORDINANCE UNLESS PROVIDED FOR
10:25:21AM OTHERWISE, THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL SUBMIT A PROPOSED
10:25:25AM AMENDMENT TO THE VOTE OF THE ELECTORS AT THE GENERAL
10:25:28AM ELECTION HELD IN THE CITY AND SPECIAL ELECTION HELD FOR SUCH
10:25:32AM PURPOSE AND TELL HOW IT CAN BE DONE AND DONE WITH INITIATION
10:25:35AM BY PETITION.
10:25:36AM SO THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENED IN 20 AND
10:25:41AM -- WHAT WAS IT 2018 -- STARTED IN '17.
10:25:45AM BEGAN SUBSTANTIALLY SOONER -- EXCUSE ME, EARLIER, BECAUSE IT
10:25:49AM TOOK, QUITE FRANKLY, THREE CHAIRS TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH
10:25:54AM THE PROCESS OF CREATING THAT CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
10:25:57AM AND ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT PROCESSES WAS THE CITY
10:26:03AM COUNCIL, AT THE TIME, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS
10:26:05AM PROPERLY FUNDED TO TAKE PLACE IN THE FUTURE ADDED, I BELIEVE
10:26:08AM IT IS, $50,000 TO THE BUDGET TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
10:26:13AM IN AND UP UNTIL THAT POINT, NOT A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION
10:26:17AM AT ALL.
10:26:18AM THIS IS -- WHAT TOOK PLACE IN 2017 WAS THE FIRST TIME IN THE
10:26:22AM HISTORY OF THE CITY THAT THAT EVER TOOK PLACE.
10:26:24AM AND THIS WAS PUT IN PLACE IN THE CHARTER TO CREATE AN
10:26:28AM ALTERNATIVE TO SECTION 10-11 SAYING THAT THE CITY MAY
10:26:31AM PROPOSE AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE OF THIS CHARTER WHICH IS WHAT
10:26:34AM THE CITY COUNCIL HAS DONE IN THIS CASE.
10:26:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN YOU WERE READ THERE I DID HEAR
10:26:40AM SOMETHING "MAY OR MAY NOT?"
10:26:43AM I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN FRONT OF ME, SO I HAVE TO GO BY
10:26:46AM MEMORY WHAT YOU SAID, SIR, I AM SORRY.
10:26:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO WAYS -- THERE ARE TWO WAYS TO BE ABLE
10:26:52AM TO AMEND THIS CHARTER PRESENTLY.
10:26:54AM A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION OR FOR WHAT FLORIDA STATUTES
10:26:58AM ALSO PROVIDES TO DO IT BY ORDINANCE.
10:27:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE CHOOSE THE ONE OUT THE COMMISSION.
10:27:06AM OBVIOUSLY DID --
10:27:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OBVIOUSLY DID BECAUSE AT THE TIME
10:27:10AM COMMENCING IN 2027.
10:27:12AM WHICH MEANS UNLESS YOU DID IT BY ORDINANCE, YOU WILL NOT BE
10:27:16AM ABLE TO AMEND THIS CHARTER BY ANY FORM AND FASHION BY ANY
10:27:20AM REASON IF YOU DIDN'T INVOKE 10-11 YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT
10:27:25AM UNTIL 2027.
10:27:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANYTHING WE DO WITHOUT ORDINANCE YOU
10:27:30AM CAN'T DO.
10:27:30AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE.
10:27:32AM THAT IS A KNOWN FACT.
10:27:33AM YOU YOURSELF ADMIT THAT WE CHOSE NOT TO HAVE THE REVIEW,
10:27:39AM THAT'S CORRECT?
10:27:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS TRUE.
10:27:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANSWER YES OR NO, SIR.
10:27:43AM I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE AT.
10:27:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY I -- YOU RAISE A VERY GOOD POINT
10:27:49AM SIR.
10:27:49AM LET ME JUST READ THIS FOR A MINUTE.
10:27:51AM THERE IS IN SECTION 10.10 THE FACT THAT IT DOES SAY THE CITY
10:27:56AM COUNCIL MAY BY ORDINANCE HAVE THE POWER TO CALL FOR THE
10:27:59AM ESTABLISHMENT OF CRC MORE OFTEN IN THE EVENT IF IT SO
10:28:04AM CHOOSES.
10:28:04AM SO IN THAT SENSE, YOU CAN CALL FOR IT BEFORE 2027.
10:28:10AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:28:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR BEING SO KIND IN ANSWERING
10:28:14AM THE QUESTIONS.
10:28:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:28:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:28:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOOD.
10:28:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:28:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE FACT IS THAT -- I DON'T KNOW THAT THE
10:28:23AM COUNSELOR CAN CORRECTLY, SINCE 1975 OR A LONG TIME AGO, CITY
10:28:28AM COUNCIL HAD THE RIGHT TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS TO THE PUBLIC.
10:28:30AM AND THE MAYOR HAD THE RIGHT TO VETO OR NOT VETO.
10:28:33AM WE ADDED -- WE -- THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, THE CITY
10:28:38AM COUNCIL AT THE TIME ADDED THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AS
10:28:41AM AN ADDITIONAL THING.
10:28:42AM WHEN WE STARTED AS A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, MOST OF US
10:28:46AM KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE CHARTER.
10:28:47AM VERY LITTLE ABOUT IT.
10:28:49AM WE HAD TO BE EDUCATED.
10:28:51AM WHICH IS WHY THE PROCESS TOOK SO LONG.
10:28:54AM FOUR, GUDES, HURTAK, CITRO AND ME THAT WERE ON THE CITY
10:29:00AM COUNCIL.
10:29:00AM AND TWO CITY ATTORNEYS ON THE BOARD.
10:29:03AM NINE ON THE BOARD AND SIX OF US ARE IN THE ROOM TODAY.
10:29:06AM INSTEAD OF RELYING ON PEOPLE LIKE US WHO DIDN'T HAVE
10:29:10AM EXPERIENCE AT THE TIME, WE NOW HAVE SIX PEOPLE WHO HAVE
10:29:12AM EXPERIENCE.
10:29:12AM THIS HAS BEEN DRAFTED BY OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND REVIEWED BY
10:29:17AM COUNSEL AND I ASSUME BY THOSE IN THE CHARTER REVIEW
10:29:21AM COMMISSION.
10:29:21AM NOTHING WRONG IN THE PROCESS.
10:29:23AM WE ARE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS THAT ALWAYS WAS THERE.
10:29:25AM ONLY NEW PROCESS THAT WE ARE NOT FOLLOWING IS THE OPTION OF
10:29:28AM HAVING ANOTHER CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
10:29:30AM I WANT TO SAY FOR THE PUBLIC, EVERY TIME BE DISCUSSED THESE
10:29:34AM -- NOW IT HAS BEEN FIVE OR SIX TIMES OVER A LONG PERIOD OF
10:29:39AM TIME, THE PUBLIC -- A LOT OF THESE WERE REJECTED BY COUNCIL.
10:29:42AM THE PUBLIC HAD MANY, MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTACT US TO
10:29:46AM SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
10:29:48AM SPEAK IN A FEW MINUTES.
10:29:49AM OVER THE 18 MONTHS OR SO OF THE CHARTER REVIEW, ONLY TWO
10:29:53AM MEETINGS THAT WE HAD MORE THAN A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.
10:29:55AM A REPORTER IN THE ROOM CAN CONFIRM HE WAS IN THE ROOM ONE OF
10:29:58AM TWO PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE.
10:29:59AM ONE OR TWO MEETINGS WHERE PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC GOT MORE OF A
10:30:04AM HANDFUL OF PEOPLE TO COME.
10:30:05AM BUT WE ASKED AS A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, THE
10:30:07AM COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT OF THE FORMER MAYOR TO COMMUNICATE
10:30:10AM THE MEETINGS TO GET THE PUBLIC THERE AND THE COMMUNICATION
10:30:15AM DEPARTMENT OF THE FORMER MAYOR SAID NO.
10:30:17AM THEY REFUSE IT AGAIN TO COMMUNICATE IT TO GET THE PUBLIC
10:30:21AM THERE.
10:30:21AM THAT PROCESS WAS FLAWED AS WELL AND DID NOT INCLUDE ROBUST
10:30:25AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:30:25AM THIS PROCESS DOES BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW AND EXPECT TO COME
10:30:28AM HERE EVERY THURSDAY AND GIVING US OF FEEDBACK.
10:30:31AM IN A MINUTE THEY WILL TELL US IF THEY AGREE WITH THIS OR NOT
10:30:35AM 367.
10:30:36AM A CLEAR INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARTER SO SOME CITY ATTORNEY
10:30:39AM CAN'T MISINTERPRET IT AS THEY HAVE IN THE PAST.
10:30:42AM THANK YOU.
10:30:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE.
10:30:44AM MR. SHELBY.
10:30:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST -- JUST ONE COMMENT THAT
10:30:51AM WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS VOTES OF CITY COUNCIL,
10:30:54AM PREVIOUS MAJORITY VOTES.
10:30:55AM I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY -- SOME WERE UNANIMOUS PERHAPS.
10:30:58AM SOME PERHAPS NOT.
10:31:01AM BUT THIS HAS BEEN FOLLOWING A PROCESS AT THE DIRECTION OF
10:31:04AM CITY COUNCIL.
10:31:05AM THIS IS CITY COUNCIL'S INITIATIVE FROM THE BEGINNING.
10:31:07AM I WAS ASKED TO MAKE A RUNNING LIST OF WHEN THINGS CAME UP
10:31:12AM WHEN CHAIRMAN GUDES -- COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS SETTING IN THE
10:31:17AM CHAIR SEAT AND I DID SO AT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION.
10:31:22AM THIS PROCESS UP UNTIL THIS DAY HAS BEEN A RESULT OF VOTES,
10:31:27AM PREVIOUS VOTES OF CITY COUNCIL.
10:31:29AM I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION JUST TO LET YOU
10:31:33AM KNOW THAT ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL'S DISCRETION IN THIS CASE
10:31:36AM SUBJECT TO THE MAYOR'S ACTION AS THE CHARTER PROVIDES.
10:31:40AM AND IT IS ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION HOW IT WISHES
10:31:44AM TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:31:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY, CLEAR SOMETHING UP FOR ME,
10:31:51AM PLEASE.
10:31:51AM YOU SAY EITHER WAY, MADE BY CHANGE, ORDINANCE OR A CHARTER
10:31:56AM AMENDMENT?
10:31:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
10:31:58AM THE ORDINANCE -- YOU CAN INITIATE -- YOU CAN INITIATE A
10:32:03AM BALLOT QUESTION, BUT IT HAS TO BE INITIATED BY ORDINANCE.
10:32:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THESE CHANGES WE WANT TO MAKE THROUGH
10:32:09AM ORDINANCE OR A CHARTER CHANGE.
10:32:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ULTIMATELY ON ORDINANCE.
10:32:13AM ULTIMATELY HAS TO BE BY AN ORDINANCE.
10:32:16AM AN ORDINANCE IS PROVIDES IT BEING SENT TO THE VOTERS.
10:32:19AM IT IS THE VOTERS --
10:32:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO GET ANOTHER POINT, PLEASE.
10:32:23AM GO AHEAD.
10:32:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OF THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE CHARTER.
10:32:27AM YOUR PASSAGE TODAY DOES NOT CHANGE THE CHARTER.
10:32:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT CAN'T BE VETOED BY THE MAYOR.
10:32:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT CAN BE VETOED BY THE MAYOR.
10:32:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF WE WERE TO DO AN ORDINANCE.
10:32:39AM CITY COUNCIL DO AN ORDINANCE TO EFFECT THESE CHANGES, THE
10:32:43AM MAYOR COULDN'T VETO THAT ORDINANCE.
10:32:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
10:32:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEN -- THEN WE ARE -- IT SEEMS TO ME THAT
10:32:50AM WE ARE GOING THROUGH A LONG PROCESS THAT MAY NOT GET TO THAT
10:32:55AM POINT WHEN WE COULD SIMPLY MAKE AN ORDINANCE.
10:32:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
10:33:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU JUST CONTRADICTED WHAT YOU SAID.
10:33:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME MAKE IT CLEAR.
10:33:04AM YOU CAN NOT CHANGE YOUR CHARTER.
10:33:06AM THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S CHARTER AND THE PEOPLE GET -- THE
10:33:09AM PEOPLE -- I AM NOT -- I AM NOT BEING -- FORGIVE MY PASSION.
10:33:14AM NOT DIRECTED TOWARD YOU OR ANYBODY PERSONALLY.
10:33:17AM THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S CHARTER.
10:33:18AM I HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THIS FROM THE INCEPTION
10:33:21AM WHEN CITY COUNCIL WANTED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A BODY TO REVIEW
10:33:27AM THIS CHARTER COMPREHENSIVELY, FACILITATE IT.
10:33:31AM I WAS INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING THE FACILITATOR.
10:33:35AM I WAS INVOLVED IN CRAFTING THE PROCESS.
10:33:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S PLEASE -- FOR ME --
10:33:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
10:33:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN THESE CHANGES THAT WE ARE WANTING TO
10:33:44AM CHANGE THE CHARTER, CAN WE STILL DO THAT EFFECTIVELY THROUGH
10:33:50AM AN ORDINANCE INSTEAD OF CHANGING THE CHARTER?
10:33:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
10:33:56AM WHAT THE ORDINANCE DOES IS PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE
10:33:59AM PLACED ON THE BALLOT SO IT IS ULTIMATELY THE PEOPLE WHO
10:34:02AM DECIDE.
10:34:02AM YOUR -- YOUR PASSING THIS DOES NOT EFFECT ANY CHANGE TO THE
10:34:07AM CHARTER.
10:34:08AM IT IS THE RESULT OF AN ELECTION.
10:34:10AM IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, THIS DOES NOT MAKE IT TO THE
10:34:14AM SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS IN TIME, VOTERS WILL NOT EVEN GET
10:34:17AM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SAY WHETHER IT WANTS TO OR NOT.
10:34:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:34:22AM YOU CLARIFIED THAT FOR ME.
10:34:23AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:34:24AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:34:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE PLAIN.
10:34:29AM THE ORDINANCE IS THE PATH TO GET TO THE BALLOT.
10:34:31AM THE MAYOR CAN VETO IT AND BLOCK IT AND THAT'S IT.
10:34:35AM OR THE VETO CAN BE OVERRIDDEN BY A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE OF
10:34:39AM FIVE VOTES AND STILL GOES TO THE BALLOT.
10:34:41AM BUT THE MAYOR CAN BLOCK THE PROCESS.
10:34:43AM HOW THE PROCESS IS.
10:34:44AM BUT YOU NEEDED ORDINANCE TO GET ON THE BALLOT.
10:34:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE MORE TIME.
10:34:48AM ONLY TIME I COULD EVER REMEMBER THAT COUNCILMEMBERS OVERRODE
10:34:53AM THE MAYOR WAS BACK IN THE '70s.
10:34:58AM ON A 5-2 VOTE.
10:35:00AM IT WAS RECORDING THE RAISE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
10:35:04AM THAT'S IT.
10:35:05AM THAT IS -- MAYBE THERE ARE OTHERS, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE
10:35:09AM SINCE -- 1974 EITHER.
10:35:11AM I DECENT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN BETWEEN.
10:35:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
10:35:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE LAST POINT AND I DON'T WANT TO BEAT
10:35:18AM THIS FOR DEATH BUT I WANT THIS TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR
10:35:20AM BECAUSE COUNCILMEMBER MANISCALCO MADE A POINT THAT I WANT TO
10:35:25AM CLARIFY AND MAKE MORE SUCCINCT.
10:35:27AM IF CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OVERRISE A
10:35:31AM VETO BY THE DEADLINE OF THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS, IT WILL
10:35:35AM NOT MAKE THE BALLOT.
10:35:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:35:39AM AGENDA ITEM -- AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 81.
10:35:42AM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS
10:35:46AM AGENDA ITEM?
10:35:59AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
10:36:02AM WE HAVE BEEN HERE TO HEAR ABOUT A STRONG FORM OF MAYOR
10:36:08AM GOVERNMENT, HOWEVER YOU SAY IT.
10:36:10AM IT HAS FELT LIKE A DICTATORSHIP INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
10:36:15AM WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS ORDINANCE BROUGHT TO THE VOTERS
10:36:21AM WITHOUT ANY MORE HESITATION, DELAYS, ATTEMPT NOT TO GET IT
10:36:26AM TO THE SUPERVISOR OF ELECTIONS SO THE COMMUNITY CAN FINALLY
10:36:30AM SAY THAT OUR VOTES TO OUR COUNCILMEMBERS MATTER.
10:36:34AM WE WANT YOU TO HAVE ENOUGH COURAGE IN THE PEOPLE TO SAY THAT
10:36:39AM WE HAVE A RIGHT IN THE SAY OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS CITY.
10:36:45AM AND THOSE WHO REFUSE TO ALLOW THIS ORDINANCE TO MOVE FORWARD
10:36:51AM WILL SHOW THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY.
10:36:54AM WHAT IS THE FEAR?
10:36:57AM IF THE CITY IS MOVING FORWARD AND THE MAYOR IS WORKING IN
10:37:00AM ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITIZENS.
10:37:02AM WHY NOT?
10:37:03AM BUT ALL WE HEAR IS DELAY AFTER DELAY AFTER DELAY.
10:37:08AM WE DO NOT WANT A STRONG DICTATORSHIP FORM OF GOVERNMENT IN
10:37:12AM THIS CITY.
10:37:13AM WE WANT ONE THAT WHEN WE VOTE FOR YOU GUYS, THAT YOU WILL
10:37:17AM WORK IN ACCORDING TO THE ISSUES OF THIS COMMUNITY.
10:37:20AM MOVE IT.
10:37:23AM BURN THE MIDNIGHT OIL.
10:37:25AM STAY UNTIL IT IS DONE.
10:37:26AM DO NOT BRING IT BACK US TO AND SAY IT SAT ON THE MAYOR'S
10:37:30AM DESK AND IT DID NOT MOVE.
10:37:31AM WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING MARCH 7.
10:37:33AM THOSE THAT HAVE FEAR DO NOT DESERVE TO REPRESENT THE
10:37:37AM INTERESTS OF THIS COMMUNITY ANYMORE.
10:37:39AM WE ARE WATCHING YOU.
10:37:40AM THANK YOU.
10:37:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:37:43AM >> GOOD MORNING, AGAIN.
10:37:49AM IT FRUSTRATES ME FOR A LOT -- FOR A LOT OF REASONS,
10:37:54AM ACTUALLY.
10:37:54AM WHEN YOU SPEAK WITH YOUR ATTORNEY, AND YOU ASK HIM A
10:37:58AM QUESTION.
10:37:59AM AND YOU MAY NOT BE GETTING THE ANSWER THAT YOU ARE
10:38:03AM EXPECTING, BUT YOU CUT HIM OFF.
10:38:04AM HE CAN NEVER -- I AM SITTING HERE AND WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE
10:38:07AM TOTAL ANSWER IS, AND I CAN NEVER GET IT.
10:38:10AM BECAUSE THEN YOU ALL STOP HIM.
10:38:11AM THESE -- THIS -- WHAT, 80, 81?
10:38:18AM WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE.
10:38:19AM AND IT ALWAYS SEEMS LIKE IN THE NINTH HOUR, ALL THESE THINGS
10:38:24AM COME UP WITH QUESTIONS.
10:38:24AM BUT YOU -- LIKE SOMEONE POINTED OUT UNANIMOUSLY VOTED ON 82,
10:38:31AM 83 AND 84.
10:38:32AM WHAT IS THE QUESTION?
10:38:34AM AT THIS POINT YOU SHOULD MAKE SURE THE WORDING IS CORRECT
10:38:36AM AND SEND IT TO THE VOTERS.
10:38:37AM SEND IT TO THE VOTERS.
10:38:39AM THEN IF IT FAILS, IT FAILS IN THE VOTERS.
10:38:43AM THAT IS HOW -- THAT IS HOW YOU GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.
10:38:46AM IF THE COMMUNITY IS NOT SHOWING UP HERE, IT WILL SHOW UP ON
10:38:50AM THE BALLOT.
10:38:50AM AND I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH JUST THIS.
10:38:53AM YOU TALK ABOUT THE -- THE -- THE AMENDMENTS AND SO FORTH
10:38:58AM GETTING -- THE COMMITTEE -- I MEAN, THE COMMUNITY TO THOSE
10:39:02AM MEETINGS.
10:39:03AM I THINK IT IS A SET-UP WHEN Y'ALL -- TAXPAYER MONEY YOU
10:39:07AM DON'T HAVE A PLAN -- A PLAN OF ENFORCEMENT TO GET
10:39:11AM INFORMATION OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:39:13AM YOU GUYS SHOULD BE HAVING SURVEYS OR SOMETHING.
10:39:16AM WHAT IS THE BEST WAY.
10:39:18AM EVERYBODY IS NOT GOING TO GO TO YOUR -- GO TO YOUR WEB SITE.
10:39:22AM BUT HOW DO YOU GET ENGAGED AND GET TO THIS -- GET THIS
10:39:27AM INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY?
10:39:28AM THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION THAT NONE OF YOU ARE ANSWERING.
10:39:31AM TAXPAYER MONEY.
10:39:33AM A LARGE CHUNK OF YOUR -- OF YOUR ADMINISTRATION BUDGET
10:39:37AM SHOULD BE COMMUNICATION TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:39:39AM BECAUSE NOTHING IS GETTING OUT.
10:39:42AM EVEN WHEN WE HAVE -- WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THE
10:39:46AM COMMUNITY.
10:39:48AM THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
10:39:50AM SO THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
10:39:52AM ALL OF THIS -- IF IT GOES -- TRUST THE COMMUNITY.
10:39:56AM SEND IT TO THE BALLOT.
10:39:57AM AND LET IT FALL WHERE IT MAY.
10:39:58AM THANK YOU.
10:39:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:40:01AM ANYONE ELSE WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 81?
10:40:12AM >> I AM NEW TO THIS.
10:40:13AM SECOND READING.
10:40:18AM HOW ARE YOU DOING.
10:40:20AM MELVIN HICKS.
10:40:23AM I KNOW ALL OF Y'ALL.
10:40:24AM WE ALL HAVE HISTORY.
10:40:28AM HOW ARE YOU DOING, COUNCILMAN.
10:40:30AM HOW ARE YOU DOING, SIR.
10:40:32AM YEAH, A VOTE NEEDS TO BE ON THIS.
10:40:35AM YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS TODAY.
10:40:40AM I HAVE BEEN IN -- IN THIS CITY FOR A WHILE.
10:40:45AM I WAS KIND OF IMPLEMENT IN HELPING TO GROW YOUR CITY.
10:40:51AM THIS RIGHT HERE, I HAVEN'T BEEN IN COUNCIL FOR A LONG TIME.
10:40:59AM I TOOK MY NAME OFF THE BALLOT FOR A REASON, AND Y'ALL --
10:41:03AM COUNCIL RIGHT HERE HAVE BEEN VERY -- NOT DOING YOUR JOB.
10:41:08AM IF WE COULD PAY FOR SOMEBODY WRONGDOING, THEN YOU CAN DO
10:41:15AM SOMETHING.
10:41:15AM IT'S IN YOU TO ME.
10:41:20AM I HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH A LOT.
10:41:22AM AND THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH A LOT.
10:41:24AM I DON'T BELIEVE IN NO STRONG MAYOR.
10:41:29AM I DON'T BELIEVE IN STRONG GOVERNMENT.
10:41:32AM I BELIEVE IN THE PEOPLE.
10:41:32AM Y'ALL HAVE BEEN DOING WRONG.
10:41:36AM CARLSON, LUIS, JOSEPH -- I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU YET.
10:41:46AM ORLANDO.
10:41:46AM CHARLIE.
10:41:48AM THIS NEEDS TO BE UP FOR A VOTE.
10:41:53AM IF Y'ALL DON'T DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW, YOU DON'T
10:41:57AM NEED TO BE IN OFFICE.
10:41:58AM YOU NEED TO BE LOCKED UP RIGHT NOW.
10:42:00AM THIS -- I DON'T BELIEVE IN STRONG GOVERNMENT.
10:42:04AM I BELIEVE IN STRONG PEOPLE.
10:42:05AM I REALLY DO.
10:42:06AM MY LIFE HAS BEEN IN DANGER A LOT.
10:42:13AM I AM VERY SCARED RIGHT NOW.
10:42:15AM I AM SCARED BECAUSE THE POLICE BEHIND ME.
10:42:20AM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE GOING TO SHOOT ME IN THE BACK OR
10:42:22AM NOT WHILE I AM UP HERE.
10:42:24AM I AM SCARED OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF RIGHT NOW.
10:42:26AM I DON'T WANT THE SAME INCIDENT LIKE HE CAME UP TO ME LAST
10:42:30AM TIME AND INTIMIDATED ME.
10:42:32AM TALKING ABOUT SHAKING HIS HAND.
10:42:34AM MR. ORLANDO GUDES, I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT ME, SIR.
10:42:40AM WHOEVER DON'T VOTE ON THIS RIGHT NOW TODAY, NEEDS TO BE A
10:42:50AM VOTE ON IT.
10:42:50AM HOWEVER -- CRAIG LATTIMER IS VERY WRONG.
10:42:59AM CRAIG LATTIMER.
10:43:02AM I AM NOT VERY READY FOR THIS, BUT THE PEOPLE BUILT THIS
10:43:15AM CITY.
10:43:15AM I DIDN'T BUILD IT.
10:43:16AM YOU ARE JUST ELECTED OFFICIALS.
10:43:19AM WE ELECTED Y'ALL.
10:43:20AM THEY ELECTED Y'ALL.
10:43:22AM IT SEEMS LIKE I -- I WORK WITH SOME PEOPLE UP HERE SOME TIME
10:43:26AM BEFORE, I DID.
10:43:27AM AND I DON'T WANT TO BE -- I KNOW MY TIME IS UP.
10:43:30AM BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE VOTING THIS RIGHT NOW.
10:43:34AM IF WE COULD PAY FOR SOMEBODY'S WRONGDOING AND PAY FOR
10:43:38AM Y'ALL'S DINNERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, Y'ALL LUNCHES AND
10:43:42AM EVERYTHING, IF YOU CAN SUPPORT A CHIEF -- A CHIEF --
10:43:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:43:48AM >> SUPPORT A CHIEF OF POLICE WHO DISGRACED THIS CITY.
10:43:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:43:55AM >> YOU, TOO, SIR, DISGRACED THE CITY.
10:43:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:44:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
10:44:09AM NUMBER 81.
10:44:10AM ANYBODY ONLINE?
10:44:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:44:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:44:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
10:44:16AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
10:44:18AM I ALWAYS LIKE TO EXPLAIN MY VOTES.
10:44:20AM I THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT WHENEVER -- THAT IS JUST ME.
10:44:23AM WHENEVER I POTENTIALLY LOOK AT SWITCHING A POSITION OR
10:44:27AM SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, I OWE THE PUBLIC AND EVERYBODY A
10:44:31AM EXPLANATION.
10:44:31AM A REALLY BIG THING FOR ME.
10:44:34AM GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
10:44:35AM I DON'T SEE THIS -- AS I UNDERSTAND IT AS GOING UP AGAINST A
10:44:40AM STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
10:44:42AM I DON'T.
10:44:43AM I REALLY DON'T.
10:44:44AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, MRS. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF I AM
10:44:48AM MISCONSTRUING THIS.
10:44:53AM THE IT IS NOT OBJECTIONABLE BUT THE PROCESS.
10:44:58AM THIS APPEARS TO BE WE HAVE VERY REASONABLE.
10:44:59AM GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
10:45:00AM I PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE IN THE IDEA OF THE CHARTER REVIEW
10:45:04AM SUPREMACY WHICH IS THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN ONLY GET CHARTER
10:45:07AM AMENDMENTS THROUGH THE CHARTER REVIEW PROCESS.
10:45:09AM I THINK -- I VOTED AGAINST A LOT OF CHARTER PROPOSALS OUT
10:45:13AM THERE BECAUSE I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREED WITH THEM.
10:45:15AM BUT I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL HAS A ROLE AS LONG AS IT IS DONE
10:45:18AM RESPONSIBLY AND REASONABLY.
10:45:20AM THIS APPEARS TO BE REASONABLE.
10:45:21AM THE CHANGES THAT I AM SEEING THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT ARE
10:45:25AM MANDATED.
10:45:27AM A CITY EMPLOYEE TO BE INTERIM AND WITHIN 180 DAYS AND THEN
10:45:31AM GOES TO THE PUBLIC.
10:45:32AM THE VERY PUBLIC VERY, VERY INVOLVED IN THE NOMINATION
10:45:35AM BEFORE.
10:45:35AM VERY INVOLVED IN THE NOMINATION BEFORE.
10:45:37AM I THINK THEY DESERVE TO HAVE A SAY IN THIS.
10:45:39AM SO IN TERMS OF HOW I UNDERSTAND IT, I THINK THIS IS
10:45:42AM REASONABLE.
10:45:43AM SO I WILL BE VOTING YES.
10:45:45AM THANK YOU.
10:45:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:45:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:45:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:45:50AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:52AM I ASKED SOME HARD QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.
10:45:54AM AND I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING
10:45:57AM ON AND HOW THE PROCESS WORKED AND HOW IT WORKED IN THE PAST
10:46:00AM AND HOW IT WORKED IN THE PRESENT.
10:46:02AM ALTHOUGH I VOTED NO IN THE FIRST ONE LIKE MR. VIERA, I AM
10:46:07AM SATISFIED THIS WILL DO NO HARM TO THE STRONG MAYOR FORM OF
10:46:10AM GOVERNMENT.
10:46:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
10:46:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:46:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
10:46:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
10:46:17AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THIS.
10:46:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: MAYBE COUNCILMAN GUDES WANTS TO.
10:46:26AM OR YOU DON'T CARE.
10:46:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:46:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:46:30AM ITEM NUMBER 81.
10:46:31AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING IN R
10:46:35AM RELATING TO THE CITY OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:46:38AM FLORIDA, ELECTORS OF THE CITY PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE
10:46:42AM REVISED CHARTER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA OF 1975 TO CLARIFY THAT
10:46:47AM THE MAYOR'S NOMINATIONS FOR HEADS OF DEPARTMENTS AND OTHER
10:46:50AM CITY EMPLOYEES TO BE BY FOUR VOTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND
10:46:53AM PROVIDE INTERIM APPOINTMENTS BY 180 DAYS PROVIDED AN
10:46:58AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:47:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:47:01AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:47:04AM ROLL CALL.
10:47:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:47:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:47:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:47:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:47:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:47:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:47:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:47:13AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:47:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 83.
10:47:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION, MARTIN
10:47:27AM SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:47:28AM THIS IS REVISION TO REVISE THE PROCESS OF TERM LIMITS TO
10:47:33AM LIMIT THE ABILITY OF MEMBERS TO SERVE A TOTAL OF FOUR
10:47:35AM CONSECUTIVE FULL TERMS CONSISTENT WITH COUNCIL'S DIRECTION
10:47:40AM AND HAS BEEN BROUGHT BACK FOR SECOND READING CONSIDERATION.
10:47:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:47:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:47AM I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THIS BECAUSE WE VOTED TO SUPPORT
10:47:50AM THIS UNANIMOUSLY.
10:47:51AM I DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS GOING TO GO TODAY.
10:47:53AM BUT WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR PERMANENT TERM LIMITS AS THE
10:47:58AM PRESIDENT IS TREATED, TWO TERMS AND YOU ARE DONE.
10:48:00AM BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS A TOTAL OF FOUR CONSECUTIVE FULL
10:48:04AM TERMS, IT DOESN'T STOP A COUNCILMEMBER FROM EVER RUNNING
10:48:08AM AGAIN WITH THAT FOUR-YEAR GAP.
10:48:10AM WE ARE NOT CREATING A PERMANENT TERM LIMIT SYSTEM.
10:48:13AM SO I THINK IT IS, AGAIN, NO ISSUE AND I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT
10:48:16AM IT.
10:48:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:48:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT OPPOSED TO THIS -- DOESN'T SAY
10:48:26AM THE MAYOR, SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THIS.
10:48:29AM MAYOR WOULDN'T VOTE FOR IT, BUT IT DOES NOT.
10:48:33AM TWO TERMS EIGHT YEARS LATER AND FOUR YEARS LATER.
10:48:38AM I AM FINE WITH THAT.
10:48:39AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:48:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: AND JUST CONTRARY TO THE DISINFORMATION PUT
10:48:46AM OUT THERE.
10:48:46AM THESE ARE NOT ALL -- NONE OF THEM, IN FACT, ARE LIMITING THE
10:48:52AM STRONG MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
10:48:54AM THIS ONE, IN FACT, HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MAY I DON'T
10:48:57AM REMEMBER.
10:48:57AM THIS ONE -- THE CITY COUNCIL LIMITING OUR OWN ABILITY TO RUN
10:49:00AM FOR OFFICE IN THE FUTURE.
10:49:02AM SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THIS
10:49:04AM IS CITY COUNCIL LIMITING OURSELVES NOT IN ANY WAY LIMITING A
10:49:09AM STRONG FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
10:49:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO MAKE
10:49:17AM COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 82.
10:49:20AM >> YES.
10:49:28AM 82.
10:49:29AM THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING IT FOR ME.
10:49:31AM YES, IT SHOULD BE A TERM LIMIT.
10:49:33AM SHOULD.
10:49:34AM WHY NOT.
10:49:34AM NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW.
10:49:36AM WE KNOW HOW FOUR YEARS, EIGHT YEARS HAS BEEN FOR THE
10:49:40AM COUNTRY.
10:49:41AM FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE SO LONG, CHARLIE.
10:49:46AM CHARLIE MIRANDA.
10:49:48AM MY BAD, I APOLOGIZE.
10:49:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TALK TO THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE.
10:49:52AM >> WE KNOW HOW IT HAS BEEN FOR THE COUNTRY AS A WHOLE.
10:49:56AM NOW THERE SHOULD BE A TERM LIMIT.
10:49:58AM NOBODY SHOULD BE EVER TO RUN OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
10:50:01AM IT SHOWS PEOPLE ABOVE THE LAW.
10:50:04AM IT SHOWS THAT PEOPLE CAN BE BRIBED.
10:50:08AM SHOWS THAT PEOPLE CAN BE BOUGHT.
10:50:10AM WE KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW.
10:50:11AM PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BOUGHT.
10:50:13AM AND THE CITY HAS BEEN BOUGHT.
10:50:15AM PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ELECTED -- THE ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE
10:50:21AM BEEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
10:50:22AM LIKE BUCKHORN.
10:50:24AM PROVEN WITH HIM.
10:50:30AM PROVEN WITH BUCKHORN.
10:50:32AM PROVEN WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL RIGHT NOW.
10:50:34AM PROVEN.
10:50:34AM WE ARE IN 2023.
10:50:35AM I MADE A STATEMENT YESTERDAY.
10:50:40AM AND I SAID THIS STATEMENT.
10:50:42AM I AM GOING TO SAY IT AGAIN.
10:50:43AM YESTERDAY WAS GOING TO DETERMINE THE -- Y'ALL 2023.
10:50:48AM AND IT HAS.
10:50:49AM DETERMINED YOUR 2023.
10:50:51AM WE HAD TO LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE RIGHT NOW.
10:50:53AM IF YOU DON'T LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE AND PASSING THIS
10:50:57AM ALONG, THAT MEANS THAT Y'ALL DON'T -- DON'T NEED TO BE HERE.
10:51:02AM IT'S CALLED NEW BLOOD.
10:51:04AM NOT OLD BLOOD.
10:51:05AM NEW IDEAS.
10:51:08AM NOT OLD IDEAS.
10:51:09AM OLD IDEAS SHAPED AND RUINED THIS CITY, NATION, HOWEVER YOU
10:51:16AM WANT TO CALL IT.
10:51:17AM AND WE NEED NEW BLOOD.
10:51:19AM THE OLD IDEAS HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL HAVE BEEN PUT ALONG IN
10:51:24AM THE CITY.
10:51:25AM NEW GROWTH STUFF AS OLD.
10:51:27AM PEOPLE -- YOU HAVE STAFFERS DOING YOUR JOB FOR YOU.
10:51:31AM YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB -- YOU ARE NOT DOING YOUR JOB.
10:51:35AM OFF CITY ATTORNEY THAT WANT TO DO STUFF.
10:51:38AM -- ABOVE THE LAW.
10:51:42AM I UNDERSTAND THE LAW VERY WELL.
10:51:45AM VERY WELL.
10:51:46AM NO ONE SHALL HAVE -- SHALL GO OVER THEIR TERM LIMIT.
10:51:52AM NO ONE.
10:51:52AM IT SEEMS LIKE I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT Y'ALL FOR YEARS,
10:51:56AM DECADES UP IN HERE, FIGHTING FOR MY RIGHTS AND THE PEOPLE'S
10:52:00AM RIGHTS.
10:52:01AM NOW IT SHOULD BE A TERM LIMIT.
10:52:04AM TWO YEARS, THAT IS MORE THAN FAIR.
10:52:07AM NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO RUN LIKE THAT AGAIN.
10:52:11AM BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:52:16AM NO BUSINESSMAN SHOULD BE ON THIS COUNCIL.
10:52:18AM NO BUSINESSMAN, BECAUSE HE HAS TIES IN IT THE COMMUNITY.
10:52:22AM AND HE COULD -- HE COULD DO STUFF.
10:52:25AM NO ONE WITH A BUSINESS DEGREE SHOULD ON THIS COUNCIL.
10:52:32AM PEOPLE SHOULD BE ON THIS COUNCIL.
10:52:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:52:36AM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
10:52:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:52:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
10:52:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
10:52:44AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, PLEASE READ THIS.
10:52:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ITEM 82, E 2022-8,
10:52:54AM ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:52:57AM SUBMITTING TO THE ELECTORATES PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE
10:53:00AM REVISED CHARTER OF 1975 AS AMENDED TO AMEND 2.02 REVISING
10:53:05AM TERM LIMITS OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:53:07AM LIMIT THE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL TO SERVE MORE THAN A TOTAL
10:53:11AM OF FOUR CONSECUTIVE FULL TERMS EFFECTIVE WITH THE CITY OF
10:53:16AM TAMPA ELECTION PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:53:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:53:22AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:53:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:53:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:53:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:53:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:53:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:53:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:53:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:53:31AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:53:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 38.
10:53:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY
10:53:42AM FOR CONSIDERATION OF SECOND READING IS ANOTHER ORDINANCE TO
10:53:45AM SENT TO THE VOTERS.
10:53:46AM AND THAT IS TO AMEND SECTION 5.01 TO PROVIDE THE CITIZEN
10:53:51AM REVIEW BOARD TO SELECT LEGAL COUNSEL NOT A CITY ATTORNEY TO
10:53:57AM PROVIDE INFORMATION FUNDING PROVIDED BY THE CITY AND THAT IS
10:54:01AM COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
10:54:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SEEING NO DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL, ANYONE IN
10:54:09AM CHAMBERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 83?
10:54:18AM COME FORWARD, SIR.
10:54:20AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHAT YEAR WE ARE IN.
10:54:29AM 2023.
10:54:31AM RIGHT.
10:54:32AM THIS SAYS THE 1975.
10:54:36AM RIGHT.
10:54:37AM SO IF WE GO BY -- WE ARE STILL GOING BY 1975, THAT MEANS
10:54:44AM SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG.
10:54:45AM SO THAT MEANS THAT IT SHOULD -- THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD --
10:54:51AM THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD SHOULD SELECT LEGAL COUNSEL.
10:54:55AM SHOULD BE ABLE TO SELECT LEGAL COUNSEL.
10:54:58AM WE ARE IN 2023.
10:54:59AM NOT 1975.
10:55:01AM SOMETHING DOESN'T BALANCE OUT WITH ME.
10:55:07AM AND THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD SHOULD BE ABLE TO SELECT LEGAL
10:55:14AM COUNSEL.
10:55:14AM SHOULD.
10:55:15AM SHOULD BE A RIGHT BY THE CITIZENS WE ARE NOT IN 1975.
10:55:27AM I KEEP SEEING 1975 IN THIS.
10:55:30AM BEING 2023.
10:55:31AM ALL FAIR.
10:55:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:55:42AM >> HI, COUNCIL.
10:55:49AM I WILL BE QUICK.
10:55:50AM TOTALLY AGREE WITH IT.
10:55:51AM SHOULD BE A SEPARATION WITH THE ATTORNEYS.
10:55:53AM THEY SHOULD NOT BE OR WORK FOR THE CITY.
10:55:57AM TOTALLY INDEPENDENT.
10:56:01AM I AM IN TOTAL SUPPORT TO THIS.
10:56:03AM THANK YOU.
10:56:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS.
10:56:06AM ANYONE ONLINE.
10:56:08AM A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:56:10AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:56:12AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:56:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ORDINANCE PRESENT FOR SECOND READING AND
10:56:20AM ADOPTION.
10:56:20AM ORDINANCE OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, SUBMITTING
10:56:23AM TO THE ELECTORS OF THE CITY A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE
10:56:26AM REVISED CHARTER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA OF 1975 AS AMENDED TO
10:56:31AM AMEND SECTION 5.01 TO PROVIDE FOR THE CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD
10:56:35AM TO SELECT LEGAL COUNCIL THAT IS NOT A LEGAL EMPLOYEE AND
10:56:41AM FUNDING PROVIDED BY THE CITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:56:45AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:56:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:56:50AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:56:51AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
10:56:54AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:56:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:56:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:56:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:56:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:56:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:57:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:57:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:57:03AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:57:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 84.
10:57:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:57:16AM THE LAST OF THE PROPOSED AMOUNTS TO THE CHARTER TO SEND TO
10:57:25AM THE VOTERS TO BE PLACED ON THE BALLOT ON MARCH 7.
10:57:27AM AND THIS ONE IS TO AMEND SECTION 1010 OF THE CHARTER REVIEW
10:57:32AM TO HAVE IT BE EVERY EIGHT YEARS INSTEAD OF EVERY TEN YEARS
10:57:37AM FOR COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND SUBMITTED FOR YOUR -- FOR YOUR
10:57:40AM CONSIDERATION.
10:57:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY DISCUSSION?
10:57:50AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:57:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS.
10:57:53AM IT WAS MENTIONED -- THE CHARTER OF 1975 BECAUSE THAT WAS THE
10:57:57AM LAST MAJOR OVERHAUL IN MODERNIZING THE EXISTING.
10:58:01AM THE WAY THE CITY OPERATES IN ITS CHARTER AND AMENDMENTS HAVE
10:58:05AM BEEN MADE TO THAT.
10:58:05AM WE USE 1975 AS A REFERENCE POINT.
10:58:08AM BUT HAVING SAID ALL THAT, WE DID HAVE THE CHARTER REVIEW
10:58:11AM COMMISSION WITH WONDERFUL INDIVIDUALS ON THERE THAT DID
10:58:15AM THEIR -- DID THEIR PUBLIC SERVICE.
10:58:17AM AND TO DO THIS AT A MORE REGULAR -- ON A MORE REGULAR
10:58:21AM SCHEDULED, I THINK, IS WISE, CONSIDERING WE DIDN'T DO
10:58:24AM ANYTHING SINCE 1975 UNTIL 2017, 2018.
10:58:27AM SO I THINK IT IS ALL GOOD.
10:58:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:58:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WILL CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, I WANT TO
10:58:34AM REFLECT ON 1975.
10:58:36AM THE LADY TO BROUGHT THE CHARTER REVIDEO YOU WAS JAN PLATT.
10:58:41AM VERY FINE LADY SERVED HERE AND COUNTY COMMISSIONER.
10:58:43AM WONDERFUL LADY.
10:58:45AM DID A LOT OF THINGS FOR THE CITY THAT AT THAT TIME WAS
10:58:48AM DORMANT LIKE ENVIRONMENT BRINGING IT.
10:58:51AM AND THOSE THAT SERVED WAS JAN PLATT, SANDY FREEMAN,
10:58:57AM KATHY BARJO, LLOYD COPELAND AND THE GUY SITTING HERE.
10:59:01AM BUT I HAVEN'T HERE SINCE 1979 ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
10:59:04AM LET ME AGAIN SAY THAT, BUT IT WAS A FINE COUNCIL.
10:59:07AM I WORKED WITH A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE AND JAN PLATT THAT START
10:59:11AM THAT.
10:59:11AM AT THAT TIME, THE CHARTER HAD SOMETHING ABOUT PIGS AND
10:59:15AM HORSES AND ALL KIND OF STUFF THAT YOU WOULD NEVER THINK OF,
10:59:18AM BUT THEY WERE THERE.
10:59:19AM SHE HAD THE FORESIGHT TO LOOK INTO SOMETHING -- I DON'T KNOW
10:59:22AM WHEN IT WAS DONE BEFORE THAT, BUT HAD THE FORSYTHE TO START
10:59:26AM THAT AND HAD DONE THE -- WAS HERE IN THE COUNTY COMMISSION
10:59:29AM AND A FINE LADY THROUGH HER WHOLE LIFE.
10:59:32AM A WONDERFUL SERVANT.
10:59:34AM WAS WONDERFUL -- PASSED AWAY A FEW YEARS BACK, A WONDERFUL
10:59:38AM SERVANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND THE COUNTY.
10:59:39AM THANK YOU.
10:59:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:59:45AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 84?
10:59:52AM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE.
10:59:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:59:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
10:59:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
10:59:59AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:00:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, FILE NUMBER E 2022
11:00:06AM -8,CH 2.
11:00:08AM ORDINANCE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:00:10AM ORDINANCE OF THE GOVERNMENT CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, TO THE
11:00:14AM ELECTORS OF THE CITY THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT OF THE REVISED
11:00:18AM CHARTER OF 1975 AMENDED 10.10 TO CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR
11:00:23AM AND COMMENCING IN 2025, THE CHARTER REVIEW ADVISORY
11:00:27AM COMMISSION BE ESTABLISHED EVERY EIGHT YEARS INSTEAD OF EVERY
11:00:32AM TEN YEARS.
11:00:32AM AND HIRED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
11:00:35AM 37 AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:00:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO SECONDED THAT.
11:00:41AM I AM SORRY.
11:00:41AM A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:00:43AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:00:45AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:00:47AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:00:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:00:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:00:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:00:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:00:54AM >>BILL CARLSON:
11:00:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:00:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:00:59AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:01:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:01:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL
11:01:08AM ATTORNEY.
11:01:08AM MR. SHELBY, IT WOULD BE PRESUMPTUOUS TO PUT IT ON THE
11:01:13AM JANUARY 19 AGENDA IN CASE WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THEM AGAIN
11:01:16AM TO PROVIDE PROPER -- PROPER NOTICE?
11:01:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY RECOMMENDATION, COUNCILWOMAN, WOULD BE
11:01:28AM TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
11:01:29AM IF THE CHAIR WOULD BE SO KIND TO WORK WITH THE CLERK TO SIGN
11:01:32AM THOSE TO GET THEM TO THE MAYOR'S DESK TODAY TO START THE
11:01:36AM PROCESS.
11:01:36AM THERE IS A PROCESS THAT IS SET FORTH IN THE CHARTER THAT
11:01:40AM REQUIRES HOW THIS BE DONE.
11:01:42AM IF THIS HAS TO COME BACK, WE CAN ARRANGE FOR THAT TO BE
11:01:47AM DONE.
11:01:47AM I THINK IT WOULD BE -- I EARNED STAND WHAT YOUR INTENTION
11:01:52AM IS, BUT I THINK IT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT NECESSARILY
11:01:55AM DOING THAT AND FOLLOW THE PROCESS LIKE WE ALWAYS HAVE FOR
11:01:57AM EVERY ORDINANCE AND SEE WHERE THIS PROCESS TAKES US.
11:02:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCELLENT.
11:02:01AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:02:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:02:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL GO NOW TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 62
11:02:12AM WHICH IS ASKED TO BE PULLED FOR STAFF REPORTS.
11:02:15AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING, NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR
11:02:27AM WITH DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY.
11:02:28AM I AM ALSO YOUR INTERIM CRA DIRECTOR.
11:02:32AM I WAS REQUESTED TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION, TO PULL IN AGENDA
11:02:37AM ITEM OFF OF CONSENT.
11:02:38AM AND IT'S -- THE PRESENTATION THAT I HAVE FOR YOU IS EXACTLY
11:02:41AM WHAT I PRESENTED TO THE CRA BOARD AT THE DECEMBER 8 MEETING.
11:02:45AM SO FOR THE PUBLIC'S -- I BELIEVE THE DESIRE WAS SO THAT THE
11:02:50AM PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT WAS DONE WITH OUR BUDGET ALLOCATIONS IN
11:02:54AM THE CRA FUNDING RELATIVE TO WHAT WE WERE DOING ON AFFORDABLE
11:03:00AM HOUSING INITIATIVES.
11:03:02AM THANK YOU.
11:03:03AM SO JUST A LITTLE BIT TO RECAP ON HOW WE GOT HERE.
11:03:08AM BACK IN 2020, COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE A MOTION TO -- FOR THE
11:03:15AM BOARD TO WORK TOWARD AS PER RATIONAL GOAL OF 30% ALLOCATION
11:03:19AM OF CRA DISTRICT FUNDS WITHIN ALL OF THE REDEVELOPMENT
11:03:22AM DISTRICTS.
11:03:22AM CONSEQUENTLY, IN 2022, WE TALKED ABOUT DOING THAT AGAIN TO
11:03:29AM USE UNUSED FUND -- LOOK AT UNUSED FUNDS.
11:03:33AM THAT DISCUSSION CARRIED FORWARD THROUGH OUR PROJECT PROCESS.
11:03:37AM -- THROUGH OUR BUDGET PROCESS AND YOU AGREED TO TAKE UP A
11:03:44AM SPECIAL MEETING TO DO THIS 30% ALLOCATION.
11:03:48AM AT THAT TIME, WE TOOK YOUR REQUEST AND ALIS DRUMGO -- THE
11:04:03AM DEPUTY ADMINISTER DESCRIBED THE ATTEMPT FOR AFFORDABLE
11:04:11AM HOUSING INITIALS TIFFS TO BE SET ASIDE.
11:04:14AM WITH THAT, WE BROUGHT TO YOU AT A DECEMBER MEETING WHAT 30%
11:04:17AM WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR EACH ONE OF THE CRA DISTRICTS.
11:04:20AM JUST TO YOUR MEMORY, THE ITEM HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS THE LINE
11:04:30AM ITEM WE TAKE THE REVENUE FROM AND IN GREEN IS WHERE WE
11:04:33AM PUT THE MONEY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIALS I HAVE IT.
11:04:42AM WORKING WITH US TO CREATE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CATEGORY
11:04:46AM WITH THE INITIATIVE.
11:04:47AM ANY MONEY WE SPEND CAN BE CAPTURED UNDER A SPECIFIC PROJECTS
11:04:51AM AND WE CAN ACCOUNT FOR IT ALONG THE WAY.
11:04:54AM THE DOWNTOWN CRA DISTRICT TO BE PULLED FROM THE
11:05:05AM INFRASTRUCTURE ITEM TO BE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:05:10AM INITIATIVES.
11:05:10AM I FAILED TO SAY THAT THIS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY AT THE CRA
11:05:15AM HEARING AND APPEARS BEFORE YOU TO APPROPRIATE THOSE FUNDS.
11:05:20AM IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
11:05:21AM WE TOOK $3 MILLION -- A LITTLE OVER $3 MILLION FROM THE
11:05:26AM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AND PUT THAT INTO THE
11:05:29AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES TAMPA.
11:05:33AM IN TAMPA HEIGHTS WE HAVE ABOUT $140,000 GOING TO AFFORDABLE
11:05:42AM HOUSING INITIATIVES.
11:05:43AM CENTRAL PARK CRAs IS -- IS LOWER INCREMENT CRA.
11:05:51AM WE ARE PULLING $100,000 FROM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
11:05:55AM PROJECTS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.
11:05:57AM AND IN YBOR ONE, THERE WAS SEVERAL LINE ITEMS THAT WE TOOK
11:06:03AM THAT REVENUE FROM.
11:06:04AM BUT WE HAVE 945,000 ALLOCATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:06:10AM INITIATIVES.
11:06:11AM AND IN YBOR 2, $426,000 FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.
11:06:16AM IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
11:06:21AM WE HAVE MOVED $2.4 -- ALMOST $2.5 MILLION TO AFFORDABLE
11:06:28AM HOUSING INITIATIVES.
11:06:29AM THAT IS IN ADDITION TO WHAT FUNDS WERE ALREADY IN AFFORDABLE
11:06:34AM HOUSING INITIALS TIFFS.
11:06:35AM DREW PARK HAVE A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION.
11:06:38AM THAT MONEY CAME OUT OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE
11:06:41AM IMPROVEMENTS FUNDS.
11:06:43AM S WE TAMPA ALLOCATED ABOUT $2.7 MILLION IN AFFORDABLE
11:06:52AM HOUSING INITIATIVES.
11:06:54AM AGAIN COMING FROM NEIGHBORHOOD INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
11:06:57AM SO ULTIMATELY, WE HAVE ABOUT $17 MILLION COMING FOR THE
11:07:05AM ADJUSTMENTS FROM THE 30% SET-ASIDE THAT YOU REQUESTED.
11:07:09AM ALSO ASKED US TO LOOK AT INTEREST EARNED ON EACH CRA TRUST
11:07:15AM FUND AND A LITTLE OVER $2 MILLION.
11:07:17AM $2.2 MILLION.
11:07:18AM ULTIMATELY THE CRA -- YOU SHOULD BE PROUD -- THAT THE CRA IS
11:07:25AM CONTRIBUTING -- MOVING FUNDS FOR $20.2 MILLION TOWARD
11:07:29AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIATIVES.
11:07:32AM ON YOUR RESOLUTION -- RESOLUTION NUMBER -- ITEM 62, SAY IS
11:07:37AM $16 MILLION.
11:07:38AM THE REASON THAT NUMBER IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE ALREADY $4
11:07:41AM MILLION IN THE APPROPRIATE ALLEGATIONS.
11:07:43AM THAT IS JUST MOVING THE DIFFERENCE TO THAT BUCKET.
11:07:46AM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
11:07:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DRUMGO, GO JOB.
11:07:53AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I FAILED TO DO THIS -- I WANT TO THANK ALIS
11:07:58AM DRUMGO FOR BEATING THE PAVEMENT AND GOING TO THE CACS
11:08:03AM MEETINGS TO UNDERSTAND THE BOARD'S INTENT.
11:08:06AM STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM SOME DISTRICTS THAT WE DON'T
11:08:09AM HAVE ANY PROGRAMS YET.
11:08:10AM THAT THE MONEY IS BEING ALLOCATED.
11:08:13AM AND FOR ANYONE WHO IS WATCHING, WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT EXIST
11:08:16AM IN SOME CRAs THAT CAN BE REPLICATED IN OTHERS AND ASKING TO
11:08:23AM BE WORK.
11:08:32AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LETTING ME PUBLICLY
11:08:37AM THANK ALIS DRUMGO.
11:08:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL PUBLICLY THANKS BOTH OF YOU.
11:08:46AM STARTED WITH $10.7 MILLION THAT BETHOUGHT WE COULD GET IN
11:08:50AM THE CRAs.
11:08:51AM INSTEAD YOU WERE FOUND 20.2.
11:08:54AM THAT IS HUGE.
11:08:55AM GIGANTIC.
11:08:57AM IT IS A GAME CHANGER.
11:09:04AM I AM EXCITED BECAUSE CRAs HAVE A LITTLE MORE WIGGLE ROOM AND
11:09:11AM THE ABILITY TO BE MORE CREATIVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN AREAS
11:09:23AM THAT DON'T HAVE A CRA.
11:09:25AM I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
11:09:27AM I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
11:09:30AM THANK YOU.
11:09:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:09:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. DRUMGO.
11:09:34AM I WANT YOU TO TAKE YOUR BOW, SIR.
11:09:37AM YOU DO GOOD WORK.
11:09:40AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: HE WOULDN'T COME UP HERE.
11:09:41AM I MADE HIM COME TO COUNCIL.
11:09:44AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU DO GOOD WORK, AND YOU SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED.
11:09:47AM YOU ARE TAKING EXTRA TASKS WITH THE CBA AND SOME OTHER
11:09:52AM THINGS.
11:09:52AM I KNOW YOU ARE THE CATALYST BEHIND A LOT OF WORK WITH MISS
11:09:56AM TRAVIS.
11:09:56AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR MOVING THE NEEDLE ON THIS.
11:09:59AM AND I KNOW YOU UNDERSTAND CRAs AND WHERE WE NEED TO GO WITH
11:10:03AM OUR CRAs.
11:10:05AM PEOPLE UNDERSTAND NOT ABOUT SOCIAL SERVICES WITH CRAs.
11:10:08AM I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN TELLING OUR MANAGERS THAT THAT WE HAVE
11:10:11AM GOT TO FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOUSING WHICH IS WHAT
11:10:16AM THE CRA IS MEANT TO BE FOR.
11:10:19AM SOMEBODY THAT UNDERSTAND IT IS AND START THE IMPLEMENTATION.
11:10:25AM KEYWORDS.
11:10:26AM WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMS -- TIRED OF HEARING THE PROGRAMS.
11:10:29AM WE NEED TO START IMPLEMENTING THE PROGRAMS AND STAFF,
11:10:32AM WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO, ANXIOUS TO HEAR OF NEXT WEEK HOW TO
11:10:35AM DO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RRA AND HOW TO HAVE STAFF BE
11:10:40AM REVISED AND START IMPLEMENTING THE PROCESS.
11:10:43AM SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE KEYING ON THIS SEASON.
11:10:46AM I WANT TO HEAR OF THE PROCESS WITH THIS KIND OF MONEY HOW WE
11:10:49AM ARE GOING TO MOVE IT.
11:10:50AM BUT I THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK, SIR.
11:10:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:10:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST ECHOING MR. GUDES.
11:10:57AM CONGRATULATIONS FOR THE WORK YOU DONE.
11:11:00AM VERY CALCULATING QUICKLY ON THE MATH WHEN I SAW YOUR NUMBERS
11:11:04AM WHAT YOU TOOK OUT EQUALED 20% OF THE MONIES AVAILABLE.
11:11:07AM EACH ONE TOOK 20% TO MAKE THE TOTAL 17 PLUS WHICH YOU FOUND
11:11:11AM IN INTEREST AND $20 MILLION.
11:11:13AM I BELIEVE THAT IS ABOUT WHAT YOU DID.
11:11:15AM CASUALLY I LOOKED AT THE NUMBER AND I THINK YOU TOOK 20% OUT
11:11:19AM OF EACH BUDGET OF THE DISTRICTS.
11:11:21AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: OF NEW MONEY.
11:11:23AM SOME -- ENDED UP BEING 30% BUT --
11:11:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
11:11:31AM THANK YOU FOR PRODUCING THAT NUMBER.
11:11:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:11:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE THING REAL FAST.
11:11:38AM SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND WHOEVER WORKED ON THIS AND
11:11:43AM THE CRA'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE WHO WORKED HARD TO COME TO
11:11:46AM THIS.
11:11:46AM UNFORTUNATELY THIS PROCESS STARTED ALMOST TWO A AND A HALF
11:11:49AM YEARS AGO.
11:11:49AM THINK OF THE PEOPLE WE COULD HAVE HELPED THROUGH ALL THAT
11:11:52AM TIME.
11:11:52AM AND THE TWO OF YOU ARE NEW, BUT PREVIOUSLY STAFF TOLD US IT
11:11:58AM WOULD BE DIFFICULT AND IMPOSSIBLE AND THEY JUST DIDN'T DO
11:12:00AM IT.
11:12:00AM SO THANK YOU FOR JUMPING IN.
11:12:04AM EVEN THOUGH FOR YOU IT IS A PART-TIME JOB YOU JUMPED IN AND
11:12:07AM DID THIS.
11:12:07AM APPRECIATE THIS.
11:12:09AM ALSO OVERSEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:12:14AM HOW MUCH IS THE CITY'S BUDGET ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING NOT
11:12:17AM INCLUDING CRA.
11:12:18AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I SHOULD HAVE PREPARED FOR THAT.
11:12:20AM IT HAS TO BE -- ALL OF OUR FUNDING IS OVER $55 MILLION
11:12:25AM ALLOCATION.
11:12:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: INCLUDES THE CRA MONEY.
11:12:28AM $35 MILLION, $36 MILLION.
11:12:31AM I WOULD CHALLENGE THE ADMINISTRATION OUT OF 50 OR SO
11:12:35AM MILLION, WE FOUND 20, AND OUT OF $1.9 BILLION BUDGET, I
11:12:39AM WHICH THE ADMINISTRATION WILL FIND MORE THAN 36.
11:12:41AM AND ASK OUR COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT WHEN TALK ABOUT THE
11:12:43AM TOTAL DOLLAR, PLEASE SEPARATE CRA.
11:12:46AM A SEPARATE ENTITY.
11:12:47AM WE ARE CONNECTED AND IF THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO TAKE
11:12:50AM CREDIT FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEY NEED TO FIND THE MONEY
11:12:53AM IN THE LARGER BUDGET THAT THEY CAN CONTROL.
11:12:54AM IT IS KIND OF EMBARRASSING.
11:12:56AM WE ARE A STAFF WORKING FOR THAT AND EMBARRASSING OUT OF $1.9
11:13:02AM MILLION.
11:13:02AM WE FOUND 20 IN JUST A FEW MONTHS.
11:13:05AM LAST THING ANYBODY WATCHING WHO MAY THINK THAT THE CRA MONEY
11:13:09AM SHOULD BE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
11:13:11AM THE LAW THAT CREATES THE CRA IS VERY SPECIFIC WHAT IT CAN
11:13:15AM BE USED FOR.
11:13:15AM ONLY FOUR THINGS TO ALLEVIATE SLUM, BLIGHT, AFFORDABLE
11:13:21AM HOUSING AND DISEASE.
11:13:22AM MOST OF THE TIME OTHER THAN COVID, WE DON'T HAVE DISEASE.
11:13:25AM WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST WITH OTHER CITIES, SLUM AND
11:13:32AM BLIGHT HAVE BEEN MISINTERPRETED TO SUB SI SIDE DEVELOPERS.
11:13:36AM SOME ARGUMENTS BY PEOPLE THAT WE SHOULD USE THIS MONEY TO
11:13:41AM SUBSIDIZE DEVELOPERS.
11:13:43AM WHETHER THAT IS LEGAL OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
11:13:45AM I AM NOT GOING TO GO BACK AND HEAR THOSE DISCUSSIONS BUT WE
11:13:50AM ARE USING THE MONEY WHAT IT IS MEANT TO BE USED FOR.
11:13:53AM IF THE REST OF THE CITY CAN SUBSIDIZE THE CRAs, THE REST OF
11:13:57AM THE CITY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY IS BEING USED FOR
11:14:00AM THE BEST POSSIBLE PURPOSES.
11:14:03AM WITH ONE ANT THE OTHER DON'T ANTI-CAPITALIST AND
11:14:10AM ANTI-DEMOCRACY.
11:14:11AM WE NEED PROVIDE THE ENVIRONMENT WHERE EVERY DEVELOPER CAN BE
11:14:15AM SUCCESSFUL, BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR OTHERS.
11:14:18AM SOLVING A MARKET FAILURE WHERE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH
11:14:21AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:14:22AM I THANK THE STAFF FOR DOING THIS AND LET EVERYBODY TO KNOW
11:14:25AM THIS IS WHAT THE CRA MONEY SHOULD BE USED FOR WITH THINGS IN
11:14:29AM THE PAST WHAT THE MONEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN USED FOR.
11:14:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CARLSON, YOU ARE RIGHT AND IN RESEARCH
11:14:36AM OF THE SOLUTION WITH REGARD TO THE HOUSING CRISIS.
11:14:39AM NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PLACES TO LIVE.
11:14:44AM IT IS THE FACT THAT OUR LIVABILITY WITH THE WAY THAT PEOPLE
11:14:47AM ARE MAKING IN SOME OF THE CITIES CAN'T AFFORD THE RENT
11:14:51AM PRICES.
11:14:51AM BECAUSE I CAN GO TO ANY OF THESE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
11:14:54AM AND THEY HAVE AVAILABLE APARTMENTS.
11:14:56AM THEY HAVE AVAILABLE APARTMENTS.
11:14:58AM SO NOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE STOCK.
11:15:01AM PEOPLE SAY WE HAVE -- WE NEED -- NO, YOU DON'T.
11:15:04AM WE HAVE THE STOCK.
11:15:05AM THE PROBLEM IS, YOU TALK OF A LIVABLE WAGE.
11:15:08AM WE DON'T HAVE A LIVABLE WAGE TO COMPETE WITH THE PRICES OF
11:15:14AM APARTMENTS.
11:15:16AM THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE.
11:15:18AM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
11:15:20AM HOW DO WE FIX THAT BALANCE.
11:15:22AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN OR NOT.
11:15:23AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A LIVABLE ORDINANCE.
11:15:27AM ON MY RESEARCH, LOOK AT THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
11:15:29AM I CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY MY RENT, MY UTILITIES, WHICH ARE
11:15:37AM INCLUDED AND TRANSPORTATION.
11:15:38AM IT'S HARD TO SAY, I CAN PAY MY RENT IF I CAN'T MEET MY
11:15:43AM NEEDS.
11:15:44AM SO I JUST TAKE -- THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
11:15:46AM I KEEP HEARING A HOUSING SHORTAGE.
11:15:48AM THERE AIN'T NO HOUSING SHORTAGE.
11:15:51AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE DO HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE.
11:15:54AM HOLD ON NOW.
11:15:54AM I UNDERSTAND --
11:15:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW WHERE I AM GOING WITH THAT.
11:15:58AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.
11:16:00AM I AM GOING TO PUT ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAT FOR A
11:16:04AM SECOND, THIS -- THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT SUPPLY AND DEMAND AND
11:16:09AM HAVING THE UNITS.
11:16:10AM IT IS ABOUT WAGES.
11:16:12AM PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO LIVE.
11:16:14AM IT IS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
11:16:15AM IT IS ABOUT EDUCATION.
11:16:16AM IT IS ABOUT UPWARD MOBILITY FOR COMMUNITIES.
11:16:20AM AND SO HOLISTICALLY, THESE ARE THINGS WE CONSIDER AS A
11:16:24AM COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT THE CITY ITSELF,
11:16:27AM LOCAL GOVERNMENT ITSELF CANNOT SOLVE AND WORKING WITH
11:16:32AM NONPROFIT PARTNERS, PRIVATE SECTOR COMPANIES, AND ANY
11:16:35AM BUSINESS THAT THE CITY ENGAGES ON.
11:16:37AM AND WE ARE DOING THAT, RIGHT.
11:16:39AM WE ARE LOOKING AT SECOND CHANCES.
11:16:40AM WE LOOK -- BAN THE BOX.
11:16:42AM ALL OF OUR EBO INCLUDING PAYING OUR LOWEST PAID EMPLOYEES
11:16:51AM AND MAKING SURE THEY ARE RAISED TO A LIVABLE WAGE TOO.
11:16:54AM HOLISTICALLY WE NEED TO DO THAT AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE
11:16:58AM DOING THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS OF THE INCOME IN
11:17:01AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:17:02AM THE INCOME HAS INCREASED ESPECIALLY OVER THROUGH COVID
11:17:07AM SIGNIFICANTLY WITH PEOPLE MOVING HERE WITH HIGHER JOBS, BUT
11:17:12AM THE WAGES OF THE BROWN AND BLACK COMMUNITY HAVE NOT
11:17:15AM INCREASED IN THAT SAME TIME PERIOD.
11:17:16AM AND SO, THIS IS IT IS WHAT IT IS.
11:17:24AM >> INCLUSIONARY ZONING.
11:17:25AM I THINK THAT CAN HELP US WITH THAT.
11:17:27AM >> SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY ARE
11:17:30AM BASED ON THE WORKSHOP THAT WE DID BACK IN ACT.
11:17:33AM AND YOU HAVE BEEN MAKING SMALL INCREMENTAL CHANGES ON THE
11:17:37AM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO ALLOW FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS.
11:17:40AM I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT I BROUGHT SOME CHANGES TO YOU ON
11:17:43AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUES TO WHICH YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE
11:17:46AM GOING TO SUPPORT AND YOU ULTIMATELY DID NOT SUPPORT.
11:17:49AM SO I -- I AM SAYING THAT IN A NOT SO DELICATE WAY SO THAT WE
11:17:58AM ARE DOING EVERYTHING HE CAN ON A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, AND WE
11:18:02AM WORKSHOP THE ITEMS AND NOT A SILVER BULLET.
11:18:04AM YOU HAVE TO IT BE INTENTIONAL ABOUT SOME OF THE DECISIONS
11:18:07AM THAT YOU ARE MAKING.
11:18:08AM SO I AM NOT GOING TO RELIVE THAT AND TELL THAT YOU I AM
11:18:12AM BITTER ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IS 2023.
11:18:14AM AND I AM MOVING ON, ALL RIGHT.
11:18:16AM BUT WE SPENT AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO GIVE YOU
11:18:19AM POLICIES AND WAYS TO MOVE THE NEEDLE AND MOVE FORWARD.
11:18:22AM BUT COUNCIL ELECTED NOT TO DO THAT.
11:18:25AM YOU TALK OF INCLUSIONARY ZONING, WE ARE GOING TO LOOK BACK
11:18:29AM AT BONUS DENSITY.
11:18:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
11:18:33AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE TALK ABOUT BONUS DENSITY.
11:18:36AM WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS.
11:18:38AM WORKSHOP THEM.
11:18:40AM GET THE CONSENT.
11:18:41AM AND YOU NEED TO BE WILLING TO TAKE THE LEAP EVEN IN AN
11:18:48AM UNCOMFORTABLE PUBLIC SETTING, EVEN WHEN YOU ARE GETTING PUSH
11:18:51AM BACK ON IT.
11:18:52AM IF IT WAS A SILVER BULLET, EVERY COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE DONE
11:18:55AM IT AND SOLVED THE CHALLENGE.
11:18:57AM IT'S NOT.
11:18:58AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE TALKING OF AADU.
11:19:02AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NOT JUST ADU.
11:19:05AM I BROUGHT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS A SPECIFIED USE.
11:19:09AM COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE BROUGHT AND FULLY SUPPORTED
11:19:12AM UNTIL IT GOT TIME TO THE ORDINANCE, AND YOU GUYS DECIDED NOT
11:19:17AM TO DO IT.
11:19:18AM IT IS NOT JUST -- LISTEN, IT IS 2023.
11:19:21AM WE ARE NOT DOING THAT.
11:19:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN ALWAYS REVISIT.
11:19:24AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE CAN --
11:19:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, ARE YOU FINISHED?
11:19:32AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:19:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:19:34AM AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED ADUs.
11:19:36AM A BIG ARTICLE IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES.
11:19:40AM AND IT LOOKED GREAT UNTIL YOU LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS.
11:19:43AM HOW IN THE WORLD CAN A 600-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE COST $258,000
11:19:51AM WITHOUT THE LAND AND 800 SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE OR ADU.
11:19:55AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: COST OF CONSTRUCTION.
11:19:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COST 300 OR SOME THOUSAND.
11:19:59AM MIGHT WELL ROB A BANK.
11:20:01AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
11:20:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT YOU.
11:20:05AM I AM NOT SAYING YOU GUYS.
11:20:06AM BUT 400 A SQUARE FOOT AND ABOUT.
11:20:09AM I NEVER SEEN THAT IN A BIG HOUSE ON A MANSION ON THE SIDE OF
11:20:13AM A CANAL SOMEWHERE.
11:20:14AM BUT WHEN I SAW THOSE PRICES AND -- PUT THE PAPER AWAY.
11:20:18AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ADUs ARE DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO SOLVE OUR
11:20:24AM ISSUE.
11:20:24AM WHAT IT WILL DO IS PROVIDE ANOTHER OPTION.
11:20:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT AND NOT BRINGING IT UP
11:20:30AM FOR A DEBATE.
11:20:31AM I WANT YOU TO FEEL HAPPY IN 2023.
11:20:33AM I BROUGHT IT UP BECAUSE MY COLLEAGUE --
11:20:40AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO FEEL HAPPY
11:20:42AM IN 2023.
11:20:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWICE TO BUILD A ADU THAN TO BUILD A
11:20:47AM HOUSE.
11:20:47AM GIVE ME A BREAK.
11:20:49AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SOME OF THE CHANGES WE BROUGHT TO YOU.
11:20:51AM THINGS THAT ARE CONDITIONAL USE TO BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
11:20:56AM SHORTENS THE TIME FOR DEVELOPERS TO GO THROUGH AND HAVE THIS
11:21:02AM -- TO MAKE -- TO MAKE THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAPPEN.
11:21:04AM DEVELOPERS WANT CERTAINTY.
11:21:07AM YOU WILL HEAR ME SAY THAT AND MY MANTRA TO 2023 AS WE WORK
11:21:12AM ON OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES.
11:21:13AM DEVELOPERS NEED CERTAINTY.
11:21:15AM OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS MORE UNITS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS, WE
11:21:20AM HAVE TO GIVE THEM CERTAINTY.
11:21:21AM THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHEN ENTER INTO THE DEVELOPMENT
11:21:25AM PROCESS.
11:21:25AM HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE.
11:21:27AM WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS.
11:21:28AM WHAT IS THE GIVE AND TAKE.
11:21:30AM THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LEVEL OF CERTAINTY NOW.
11:21:33AM WE WILL CONTINUE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND WORK ON OUR
11:21:35AM PROCESS AND DO WE CAN ON THE POLICY SIDE AND REGULATORY SIDE
11:21:40AM TO HELP YOU THROUGH THIS.
11:21:41AM THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE MY HAPPY PRESENTATION OF 2023.
11:21:46AM ANYONE ELSE.
11:21:50AM APPRECIATE YOU GUYS AND YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF THE
11:21:53AM ALLOCATION OF $20 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING INITIALS
11:21:57AM TIFFS.
11:21:57AM YES, MR. CHAIR.
11:21:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS TRAVIS, AS ALL OF US UP HERE EXPRESSED,
11:22:03AM THANK YOU.
11:22:04AM IT THANK YOUR PARTNER.
11:22:07AM THANK YOU.
11:22:08AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE APPRECIATE YOU.
11:22:11AM THANK YOU.
11:22:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:22:15AM PART OF YOUR COMMITTEE.
11:22:18AM MOVE IT NOW OR MOVE IT WITH THE REST OF YOUR COMMITTEE
11:22:21AM RESOLUTIONS.
11:22:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: UP TO YOU.
11:22:23AM WE CAN MOVE IT NOW.
11:22:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A SECOND.
11:22:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:22:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED
11:22:30AM BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:22:31AM ALL IN FAVOR.
11:22:32AM ANY OPPOSED.
11:22:33AM THANK YOU.
11:22:33AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 PW 23-78734.
11:22:59AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:23:02AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:23:03AM MR. BAIRD GETS STARTED.
11:23:06AM I ENJOY LISTENING TO PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE, AGAIN, ALL THAT
11:23:11AM YOU SAID, IT COMES PURE FROM THE COMMUNITY.
11:23:13AM BUT ONE THING THAT YOU KNOW EACH WEEK YOU GET A BRIEFING.
11:23:17AM EACH WEEK YOU SEE EACH AGENDA ITEM KIND OF IN ITS OWN SPACE.
11:23:22AM TO POSTSCRIPT WHAT MISS TRAVIS AND MR. DRUMGO DID.
11:23:28AM BY COUNCIL APPROVING THE JOB ORDER CONTRACTING SOME TIME
11:23:31AM AGO, YOU HAVE INCREASED THE BBE PORTION OF THAT BY 25%.
11:23:36AM THAT IS PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO SMALL JOB PROCESSES IN
11:23:40AM THE CITY NOT ONLY THAT, IT OPENED AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO
11:23:45AM OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB WHEN I MET WITH MISS TRAVIS.
11:23:48AM I SAID LET'S TRY THIS.
11:23:50AM LET'S TRY TO GET OUT OF THE BOX AND DO SOMETHING.
11:23:52AM YOU SHOULD CELEBRATE SOME OF THE WINS THAT DON'T SEEM TO PAY
11:23:57AM DIVIDENDS.
11:23:57AM I WANT TO BRING ONE MORE THING TO YOUR ATTENTION IS THAT I
11:24:00AM ASKED MR. HART -- MISS WYNN IS HERE TODAY AND SHE DIDN'T
11:24:05AM KNOW I WOULD STAY THAT.
11:24:07AM CONGRATULATIONS TO HER OFFICE LISTENING TO COUNCIL ALL THE
11:24:11AM WAY WHEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER ASKED US TO LOOK A BUSINESS
11:24:16AM OPPORTUNITY AND YOU PUT THE GAS ON THAT AND THE MAYOR DID
11:24:19AM THE BUSINESS TO BUSINESS AND SPLIT CONTRACTS AND GAVE MORE
11:24:22AM THINGS.
11:24:22AM BECAUSE BRAD IS GOING TO TALK IN ITEMIZED FORM.
11:24:27AM BUT I WILL ASK FOR MR. HART'S OFFICE TO GIVE ME THE EBO
11:24:32AM BASIS EVERY TWO WEEKS AND DO IT FOR THE AGGREGATE.
11:24:37AM BBE ALONE, $14.7 MILLION YEAR TO DATE AND ONLY IN THE BUDGET
11:24:42AM FOR THIS QUARTER.
11:24:43AM IN THIS AGENDA ALONE, UNTIL HUH BBE REPRESENTS OVER $6
11:24:48AM MILLION WHICH IS 53% OF ALL THE EBO OPPORTUNITY JUST GOING
11:24:54AM IN THIS AGENDA.
11:24:55AM SO, ONE, CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT HAS TO BE CONTINUOUS.
11:24:59AM WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH NEW IDEAS, SHELTER MARKET.
11:25:02AM BID DISCOUNTS.
11:25:04AM HAVING MORE OPPORTUNITY IN THE COMMUNITY FOR ENGAGEMENT FOR
11:25:10AM THE BID PROCESS, SELECTION PROCESS.
11:25:12AM I'M HERE THAT THE PUBLIC SEES THESE AGENDA ITEMS ONE ON ONE
11:25:16AM ON ONE ON ONE.
11:25:17AM OFTENTIMES YOU DON'T HEAR IT AND THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HEAR IT
11:25:21AM AND THE AGGREGATE HOW WELL WE ARE SUPPORTING THE GROWTH
11:25:30AM OPPORTUNITY AND SMALL BUSINESSES OF COLOR OPPORTUNITIES THAT
11:25:32AM THEY HAVE NOT SEEN OVER TIME.
11:25:36AM I WANTED TO PUT THAT PREAMBLE MR. BAIRD WENT.
11:25:42AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:25:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:25:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: PEOPLE SEE THE NUMBERS AND WANT TO SEE A
11:25:50AM BREAKDOWN.
11:25:51AM DON'T TELL THE NUMBERS, I WANT TO HEAR THE BREAKDOWN.
11:25:54AM THE FIRST THING I ASK -- SOMETIMES WHEN IT IS NOT THERE, I
11:25:58AM TELL BRAD, LET US KNOW SO WHY IT IS NOT THERE.
11:26:02AM PEOPLE ARE -- WITH THE CONTRACT, THIS AND THAT.
11:26:05AM I AM GLAD YOU DO THAT AND WITH OUR HOUSING SITUATION, THAT
11:26:09AM OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB THAT THAT GOES TO THERE TO SPEED THAT
11:26:12AM PROCESS UP TO GET IT MOVING WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION.
11:26:18AM GLAD YOU MADE MENTION OF THAT.
11:26:20AM THANK YOU.
11:26:20AM >>BRAD BAIRD: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:26:25AM BRAD BAIRD, DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO SPEAK OM NUMBER 3,
11:26:33AM WATER CONTRACT.
11:26:34AM A CONTRACT WITH OUR THREE LOW BIDDERING.
11:26:36AM TOTALING UP TO $34 BE 4 MILLION.
11:26:43AM FOR PROJECT THAT IS PART OF OUR PIPES PROGRAM.
11:26:47AM I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT AS CHIEF OF STAFF JUST POINTED OUT,
11:26:53AM BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2019, WHEN WE APPROVED THE PIPES
11:26:58AM PROGRAM -- WHEN CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE PIPES PROGRAM THE
11:27:06AM DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION WAS A MAJOR PART AND WHAT WE
11:27:11AM WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH AND OPPORTUNITY AS PARTS OF THE PIPES
11:27:14AM PROGRAM WAS GOING TO BE HUGE.
11:27:16AM THESE CONTRACTS, THREE THREE CONTRACTS, HONESTLY EXCEEDED MY
11:27:24AM EXPECTATIONS WHAT WE WERE THINKING BACK THEN.
11:27:26AM AND I WILL GO THROUGH THE BREAKDOWN AS COUNCILMAN GUDES
11:27:31AM ASKED ME TO DO.
11:27:32AM THE FIRST CONTRACT WITH JVS CONTRACTING FOR $9.7 MILLION.
11:27:40AM AND IT IS ACHIEVING EBO PARTICIPATION OF 26.6%.
11:27:51AM NOT ALL BLACK BUSINESS INTERVICE.
11:27:54AM BLACK BBEs 9.3%.
11:27:59AM SMALL BUSINESS LOCAL ENTERPRISES, 9.2%.
11:28:02AM ASIAN BUSINESS ENTERPRISE -- ALMOST 5%, 4.96 AND HISPANIC
11:28:10AM BUSINESS ENTERPRISE 4.5%.
11:28:13AM DALLAS 1 CORPORATION HAS A GOAL OF 21.1% OF WHICH BB HEEs
11:28:22AM ARE 17.1.
11:28:23AM SBLE 2.56.
11:28:27AM AND WOMEN BUSINESS ENTERPRISE, 1.44.
11:28:30AM FINALLY THE THIRD LOW BIDDER, RTD CONSTRUCTION, INC. HASEBO
11:28:40AM PARTICIPATION GOAL OF 21.9%.
11:28:44AM 14.4 BBE, 5.4, HPE AND 5.1 SLBE.
11:28:53AM ALL THREE OF THESE CONTRACTS HAVE OVER 20% PARTICIPATION.
11:28:57AM I PERSONALLY HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT IN A -- IN HORIZONTAL
11:29:03AM CONSTRUCTION.
11:29:04AM I HAVE SEEN THAT IN VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, BUT WHEN YOU DO
11:29:08AM THE MATH, THAT IS ALMOST $7.5 MILLION THAT WASN'T COUNTED
11:29:13AM IN THE NUMBERS JOHN JUST GAVE YOU GOING TO EBO FIRMS AND
11:29:21AM THIS IS AMAZING.
11:29:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:29:25AM THIS WAS BROUGHT UP DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:29:28AM A LOT OF NUMBERS -- BIG NUMBERS COMING THROUGH ON THE AGENDA
11:29:31AM AND THIS IS THE FIRST OF THE BIG NUMBERS WE ARE APPROVING,
11:29:35AM BUT YOU EXPLAINED SPECIFICALLY HOW IT IS BENEFITING.
11:29:38AM AND NUMBERS YOU HAVE NOT SEEN.
11:29:40AM 20 PLUS PERCENTAGE POINTS FOR MINORITY OWNED, BLACK-OWNED,
11:29:46AM WOMEN-OWNED WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE ARE GETTING THIS PIECE OF
11:29:50AM A PIE.
11:29:51AM WE SAY PIE, EQUITY.
11:29:54AM IT IS EQUITABLE.
11:29:55AM NOT JUST THE BIG CONTRACTORS.
11:29:58AM WE TALK OF THE THREE LOWEST BIDS AND CLARIFY.
11:30:03AM $7 MILLION.
11:30:05AM >>BRAD BAIRD: ALMOST 7.5 MILLION.
11:30:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE ITEM WE ARE APPROVING TODAY AND A
11:30:12AM LOT MORE AND A VERY GOOD TRAJECTORY.
11:30:18AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
11:30:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO
11:30:25AM SAID, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY WHAT YOU HIGHLIGHTED THAT WE
11:30:28AM HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
11:30:29AM AND THIS IS WHAT I LIKE WHEN WE HAVE ASKED FOR YOU ALL TO
11:30:34AM TRY TO INCREASE THESE NUMBERS.
11:30:36AM I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU SAID THIS IS HORIZONTAL
11:30:39AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:30:40AM WHICH MEANS YOU ARE GETTING MORE PEOPLE ON NEW TYPES OF
11:30:45AM JOBS.
11:30:46AM AND I THINK THAT -- THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO COMMEND YOU ON
11:30:49AM TODAY.
11:30:50AM BECAUSE EXPANDING THE TYPES OF WORK THAT WE CAN GIVE TO
11:30:55AM LOCAL, SMALL AND MINORITY CONTRACTORS IS HUGE.
11:30:59AM IT IS GOING -- IT IS GOING TO ARE RIPPLE WAVES.
11:31:04AM HOWEVER THAT IS SAID.
11:31:05AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
11:31:07AM AS ALWAYS, WE WANT TO -- WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THAT
11:31:11AM 20%.
11:31:11AM BUT I REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU HIGHLIGHTED THE
11:31:14AM HORIZONTAL DEVELOPMENT.
11:31:16AM A NEW SPACE.
11:31:16AM I LOVE THAT YOU KEEP CHALLENGING YOURSELVES TO FIND NEW
11:31:20AM PLACES THAT WE CAN FIND THIS GROWTH.
11:31:22AM SO THANK YOU.
11:31:23AM >>BRAD BAIRD: YOU ARE WELCOME.
11:31:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:31:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HATE THAT WORD "GOOD-FAITH EFFORT."
11:31:33AM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
11:31:34AM I DON'T LIKE THAT WORD.
11:31:36AM I AM GLAD THAT -- I SAY THIS.
11:31:38AM IF YOU TELL THE PEOPLE UP FRONT THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE
11:31:42AM AND STAY FIRM WHERE WE NEED TO BE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO GROW
11:31:45AM INSTEAD OF GOOD-FAITH EFFORT.
11:31:48AM WE TALK ABOUT MAKING SURE WE ARE MONITORING WHO IS DOING THE
11:31:52AM WORK AND AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT WHO SHOULD BE LOOKING AND I
11:31:55AM SAID IT FROM DAY ONE.
11:31:56AM IF WE APPROVE IT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE
11:32:00AM LOOKING AT THESE JOBS AND MAKING SURE WE ARE NOT JUST
11:32:03AM GETTING A BLANKET NUMBER IN YEARS PAST AND COME -- NOBODY
11:32:07AM GOT THE JOB.
11:32:07AM YOU HEARD THESE NUMBERS.
11:32:08AM NOBODY IS THERE.
11:32:10AM I AM NOT HEARING IT, SO YOU THINKING IT IS THERE NOW.
11:32:14AM PUT OUR FOOT ON THE GAS.
11:32:16AM NOT GOOD FAITH SITUATION, BUT MAKING SURE THAT, HEY, THIS
11:32:20AM COUNCIL WANTS THIS TO BE A STEADFAST PACE GETTING THOSE
11:32:23AM NUMBERS UP THERE.
11:32:24AM WE WILL APPRECIATE IT AND CONTINUE TO DO THAT WORK.
11:32:26AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
11:32:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:32:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, BRAD.
11:32:33AM I DON'T KNOW WHO IS DOING ARMENIA AND TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD IN
11:32:36AM THIS AREA.
11:32:37AM I WENT TO THE COFFEE SHOP THE OTHER DAY AND FRIENDS OF MINE
11:32:40AM STOPPED ME AND SAID THIS GUY SHOWED US HOW IT IS DONE.
11:32:43AM HE ACTUALLY -- THEY WERE LOOKING AT IT.
11:32:45AM THE GENTLEMAN -- I AM SURE NOT STILL AN EMPLOYEE OF THE
11:32:49AM COMPANY, WHATEVER THAT COMPANY IS, ACTUALLY SHOWED THEM HOW
11:32:53AM THE MACHINE WORK AND IN AWE THAT SOMEBODY TOOK THEM THE TIME
11:32:57AM TO SHOW THEM HOW THEIR MONEY IS BEING SPENT AND THE PIPE
11:33:00AM WENT INSIDE THE OTHER PIPE.
11:33:02AM WHOEVER THE COMPANY IS, FROM ALL OF US, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:33:05AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
11:33:06AM THAT IS KEY WITT CONSTRUCTION.
11:33:13AM THEY SUBCONTRACTING THE PIPE BURSTING -- I SHOULDN'T SAY
11:33:17AM BRAND-NEW BUT A NEW TECHNOLOGY AND FASCINATING HOW THEY DO
11:33:21AM THAT WORK.
11:33:21AM SO THANK YOU.
11:33:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:33:27AM MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:33:29AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:33:31AM ALL IN FAVOR.
11:33:31AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:33:34AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:33:34AM >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
11:33:40AM INFRASTRUCTURE ADDRESSING ITEM 4 A CHANGE ORDER TO ADD $3
11:33:48AM MILLION TO A VALVE INSTALLATION AND REPLACEMENT.
11:33:55AM CONTRACT WITH RTD CONSTRUCTION.
11:33:57AM PERKSBO PARTICIPATION IS 6.3%.
11:34:01AM BREAK DOWN TO BBE AT 4.15 AND HBE AT 2.3.
11:34:08AM SOMEWHAT OF A DROP-OFF.
11:34:09AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS WHY THAT DROP-OFF.
11:34:13AM THERE ARE VERY GOOD REASONS.
11:34:14AM ON ITEM 3, THOSE CONTRACTS INCLUDED A LOT OF PIPELINE
11:34:22AM RELOCATION.
11:34:23AM THIS CONTRACT -- AND THEIR PLAN WORKED.
11:34:27AM SO YOU CAN PLAN FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATION AND THE
11:34:34AM PARTICIPATION IS THERE.
11:34:34AM FOR ITEM 4 AND ITEM 5, WHICH IS A SIMILAR CONTRACT,
11:34:39AM CERTAINLY NOT AS MUCH OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE PRIMARILY HYDRANTS
11:34:45AM AND VALVES.
11:34:46AM NOT A LOT OF PIPELINE.
11:34:48AM ON TOP OF THAT, EMERGENCY WORK.
11:34:50AM AND HAPPENS AROUND THE CLOCK AND ON-CALL.
11:34:54AM FOR THOSE TWO REASONS, THE NUMBERS AREN'T AS GOOD, BUT THE
11:34:59AM HYDRANTS AND VALVES ARE PURCHASED THROUGH EBO FIRMS.
11:35:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
11:35:11AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:35:13AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:35:15AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:35:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST FOR THE RECORD.
11:35:19AM YOU SEE THAT THE WATER METERS ARE BEING REPLACED.
11:35:22AM NOT THAT THEY RUN FAST.
11:35:24AM THAT THEY START TO RUN SLOW.
11:35:26AM THE TAXPAYERS GET A BREAK BUT THE OTHER TAXPAYERS DO NOT AND
11:35:30AM YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THEM ABOUT EVERY 10 OR 12 YEARS.
11:35:33AM IF NOT, YOU WILL GET A VERY LOW WATER BILL WHEN YOU USED
11:35:36AM MUCH MORE WATER.
11:35:37AM I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT.
11:35:38AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:35:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMAN
11:35:46AM MANISCALCO.
11:35:46AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:35:47AM ALL IN FAVOR.
11:35:48AM OPPOSED.
11:35:50AM THANK YOU.
11:35:50AM ITEM NUMBER 5.
11:35:55AM >>BRAD BAIRD: SIMILAR TO ITEM NUMBER 4, BUT ADDING $4
11:35:59AM MILLION FOR KIMMONS CONTRACTING CORPS FOR CITYWIDE METER,
11:36:05AM HYDRANT AND VALVE INSTALLATION AND REPLACEMENT WORK.
11:36:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:36:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:36:14AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:36:15AM ALL IN FAVOR.
11:36:16AM OPPOSED.
11:36:17AM THANK YOU.
11:36:18AM >>BRAD BAIRD: ITEM NUMBER 6, I DON'T RECALL IF THAT WAS
11:36:24AM MOVED OR NOT.
11:36:25AM YOU DID NOT, OKAY.
11:36:26AM ITEM 6 IS HIRING EVOQUA WATER TECHNOLOGIES FOR ODOR AND
11:36:35AM CONTROL SERVICES IN THE AMOUNT OF $7.4 MILLION.
11:36:38AM INCLUDES A 16% MANUFACTURER PRICE ESCALATION; HOWEVER, THIS
11:36:42AM FIRM HAS NOT ASKED FOR A PRICE ESCALATION FOR FIVE YEARS.
11:36:46AM AND THE INITIAL AGREEMENT WAS FOR FIVE YEARS.
11:36:50AM SO THAT AVERAGES OUT TO A LITTLE MORE THAN 3% A YEAR WHICH
11:36:55AM WE FELT WAS FAIR.
11:36:56AM WE DID A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES
11:37:01AM THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF FLORIDA, AND WE ARE AT THE LOW END
11:37:04AM OF PRICE FOR THESE TYPE OF SERVICES.
11:37:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:37:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.
11:37:14AM WHEN I HAD A QUESTION AND I SAID 16%.
11:37:18AM AND YOU GAVE ME THAT ENTIRE RATIONALE AND REASONING BEHIND
11:37:21AM IT, BUT, NO, THE POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS THAT I APPRECIATE
11:37:27AM THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING THE WORK WHEN YOU SEE THOSE PRICE
11:37:29AM INCREASES.
11:37:30AM AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU EVEN WENT TO OTHER
11:37:33AM MUNICIPALITIES TO SEE WHERE WE WERE IN THE BALANCE.
11:37:36AM AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR GOING ABOVE
11:37:42AM AND BEYOND MAKING SURE WE ARE GETTING A DEASON DEAL.
11:37:45AM IF WE ARE NOT, GOING OUT FOR REBIDS.
11:37:49AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:37:50AM IT DEFINITELY MAKES APPROVING THIS A LOT EASIER WITH NO
11:37:56AM QUESTIONS BEHIND IT.
11:37:57AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
11:37:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:38:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:38:05AM A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:38:08AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:38:09AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:38:13AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:38:14AM THANK YOU.
11:38:14AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:38:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. BAIRD.
11:38:19AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE NUMBERE 2021-8, CHAPTER 18.
11:38:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, CAPTAIN PATRICK MESMER, TAMPA POLICE
11:38:43AM DEPARTMENT.
11:38:43AM A CONTINUATION TO GIVE YOU A SYNOPSIS OF OUR BODY WORN
11:38:47AM CAMERA ANNUAL REPORT THAT I CAME BEFORE COUNCIL AND
11:38:50AM PRESENTED, I BELIEVE, IN AUGUST.
11:38:53AM A QUESTION OF SPECIFICALLY THE MUTE FEATURE OF THE BODY-WORN
11:38:58AM CAMERA.
11:38:59AM IF THERE WAS DATA HOW OFTEN THAT WAS USED.
11:39:01AM I SAID NO BECAUSE THE SYSTEM DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY TRACK
11:39:05AM THAT.
11:39:05AM WE WERE ASKED TO COME UP WITH OUR VENDOR AXON WHO LOOK AT
11:39:12AM THAT GLOBALLY INSTEAD OF INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE RANDOM
11:39:16AM QUALITY CHECKS.
11:39:17AM MR. GRAYSON FROM AXON WITH US IS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
11:39:21AM OF HOW THE PROCESS IS GOING.
11:39:23AM WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THAT OUT TO GIVE US
11:39:26AM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BASICALLY GET THAT AGGREGATE DATA RATHER
11:39:30AM THAN SPECIFIC ADVISED DAY THAT HOW THAT IS USED.
11:39:36AM ANY SPECIFIC COMMENTS FROM MR. GRAYSON.
11:39:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DO YOU HAVE ANY
11:39:41AM QUESTIONS?
11:39:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL LEAVE IT FOR MR. GUDES.
11:39:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE NO QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.
11:39:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MAY.
11:39:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD.
11:39:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOOD WITH LETTING HIM GO.
11:39:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:39:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S BABY, BUT
11:39:58AM COUNCIL MIGHT NEED TO RESEARCH AS WELL.
11:40:00AM I DID TALK TO HIGH-LEVEL SHERIFF OFFICE OFFICIALS IN
11:40:04AM REFERENCE TO THIS MUTE SITUATION.
11:40:06AM AND FROM WHAT THEY TELL ME, THAT SYSTEM CAN DO ANYTHING AND
11:40:10AM EVERYTHING AND GET DATA AS MUCH AS TIMES THE PERSON --
11:40:14AM RECORDED IT.
11:40:17AM YOU RECORD IT.
11:40:18AM YOU STOP.
11:40:18AM THIS SYSTEM CAN DO EVERYTHING.
11:40:21AM WITH THE MUTE, YOU SAY THAT CAN'T BE DONE.
11:40:24AM THEY ARE SAYING INACCURATE.
11:40:26AM OUR SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE SHERIFF OFFICE IS USE
11:40:30AM SOMETHING IN.
11:40:30AM >> THE OFFICIAL QUESTION I GOT, ANY DATA HOW OFTEN THAT IS.
11:40:35AM USED.
11:40:35AM THAT'S CORRECT.
11:40:36AM WE HAVE AN AUDIT LOG.
11:40:38AM EACH CAMERA HAS AN AUDIT LOG.
11:40:41AM ANYTHING ON THAT PARTICULAR CAMERA CAN BE TRACKED.
11:40:44AM WE LOOK AT THAT AUDIT LOG MANUALLY.
11:40:46AM WE HAD A CASE, AN INTERNAL AFFAIRS CASE WHERE WE PULLED THE
11:40:50AM AUDIT LOG FOR ONE SHIFT.
11:40:52AM IT WAS FOR 30 PAGES.
11:40:54AM PDF DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE LINE TO
11:40:59AM SEE WHAT THAT IS IS.
11:41:01AM 300 CAMERAS IF WE DID THAT WITH EVERY SINGLE OFFICER 20,000
11:41:06AM PAGES OF DATA TO LOOK THROUGH AND MANUALLY COMPLICATE.
11:41:10AM SO NO WAY TO GET A NUMBER BASED ON LOOKING AT THOSE
11:41:14AM INDIVIDUAL AUDIT LOGS UNLESS WE MANUALLY GO THROUGH IT.
11:41:18AM WHAT THE SOFTWARE UPDATE IS GOING TO DO IS BASICALLY SHOW US
11:41:22AM AN AGGREGATE NUMBER OF VIDEOS AND WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THOSE
11:41:27AM VIDEOS WILL HAVE A MUTE FUNCTION ENABLED IN THOSE VIDEOS.
11:41:31AM THAT TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT EXIST NOW.
11:41:32AM MR. GRAYSON CAN ADDRESS IT FROM AXON'S PERSPECTIVE.
11:41:37AM ANOTHER BODY WORE AN CAMERA PROVIDER THAT MAY HAVE A
11:41:40AM DIFFERENT SYSTEM.
11:41:41AM I DON'T HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.
11:41:43AM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY USES AXON AS
11:41:47AM WELL.
11:41:47AM AND ANY SPECIFIC, TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, HE IS PROBABLY THE
11:41:51AM BEST ONE TO ANSWER.
11:41:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET HIM ANSWER IT.
11:41:55AM >> CERTAINLY.
11:41:57AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:41:59AM ANDREW GRAYSON.
11:42:00AM ON BEHALF OF AXON.
11:42:05AM >> HE SPECIFICALLY RESTATE THE QUESTION.
11:42:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OTHER DEPARTMENTS SAY THAT FUNCTION CAN BE
11:42:10AM TRACKED AND CAN BE DONE.
11:42:11AM AND HE IS SAYING, YES, BUT SO LONG AGAINST -- YOU CAN'T
11:42:16AM CAPTURE THE DATA BECAUSE IT IS SO MUCH.
11:42:18AM SO IS OUR SYSTEM DIFFERENT THAN SOMEONE ELSE'S?
11:42:23AM OR CAN -- COUNCILMAN WANTS, CAN THAT BE DONE?
11:42:29AM >> THE CAPTAIN IS CORRECT.
11:42:30AM THE SAME SYSTEM THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S
11:42:33AM DEPARTMENT USES.
11:42:34AM IT CAN BE TRACKED WITH A MANUAL PROCESS THAT THE CAPTAIN
11:42:38AM ALLUDED TO.
11:42:38AM AXON IS WORKING TO AUTOMATE TO HAVE PERFORMANCE AND
11:42:45AM COMPLIANCE METRICS OF THE CAMERA SYSTEM.
11:42:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BASICALLY TO HAVE A FUNCTION TO DO WHAT WE
11:42:51AM WANT TO DO.
11:42:52AM THE FUNCTION IS THERE AND WE NEED TO UPDATE.
11:42:57AM >> YOU A SUPERMAN EWELL PROCESS.
11:43:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT CAN BE DONE, BUT WITH WHAT WE WANT TO
11:43:04AM DO, IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
11:43:06AM >> 100%, YES.
11:43:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:43:09AM HOW LONG WILL THAT TAKE EFFECT?
11:43:14AM >> AXON HAS IT ON TRACK FOR FOURTH QUARTER OF 2023.
11:43:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE MORE TIME?
11:43:22AM >> FOURTH QUARTER OF 2023.
11:43:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL LEAVE THE UNDERLYING ISSUES TO
11:43:28AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:43:28AM BUT FOR ME TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATION WITH THE PUBLIC.
11:43:32AM IN THE FORMER POLICE CHIEF'S REPORT, IT SAID THAT -- THAT,
11:43:38AM AS I REMEMBER IT, IT SAID NO WAY TO DO THIS AUTOMATICALLY OR
11:43:41AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:43:42AM SO -- AND THEN A REPORTER CAME OUT AND SAID THAT IS NOT
11:43:47AM TRUE.
11:43:48AM WE CAN PROVIDE THE DATA.
11:43:49AM AND THEN THE ADMINISTRATION'S RESPONSE WAS, NO, REMEMBER, WE
11:43:54AM PUT THE WORD "AUTOMATIC" IN THERE SO THAT MAKES THE
11:43:58AM STATEMENT TRUE.
11:43:58AM SO THE CONCERN IS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION ESPECIALLY
11:44:01AM COMMUNICATION FOR TPD.
11:44:04AM REMEMBER, WE NEED TO TRY -- IF YOU REMEMBER MARCHES A FEW
11:44:07AM YEARS AGO, WE NEED TO CREATE TRUST WITH THE PUBLIC.
11:44:11AM YOU TAKE THE HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THE POLICE
11:44:14AM DEPARTMENT PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE EVERY DAY, THEY
11:44:16AM DESERVE BETTER COMMUNICATION SLIGHT COMMUNICATION NUANCES
11:44:24AM SEEN IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THE
11:44:29AM POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC IN THIS CASE
11:44:33AM IF THE POLICE CHIEF OR SOMEONE WHO WROTE THE MEMO SAY NO WAY
11:44:36AM TO DO IT AUTOMATICALLY, THE DATA EXISTS DOING IT MANUALLY
11:44:40AM BUT THE TIME TO -- TO COMPLICATE THAT WOULD BE VERY COSTLY
11:44:48AM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IT WILL BE A LOT MORE TRANSPARENT.
11:44:52AM AND IN THE ARTICLE, TO HAVE AXON PUT ON THE SPOT TO PROVE
11:44:57AM WHAT THEY SAID IS TRUE.
11:44:58AM THE SIMPLE WAY TO RESOLVE IT IS, LOOK, WE MISUNDERSTOOD THE
11:45:03AM QUESTION.
11:45:03AM WE THOUGHT AN EASY WAY TO DO IT.
11:45:06AM AND INSTEAD WE WENT THROUGH THESE MACHINATIONS.
11:45:13AM WE NEED TO BE DIRECT AND HONEST WITH THE PUBLIC.
11:45:16AM SAME THING GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
11:45:19AM I ASKED A QUESTION OF THE VIOLENT CRIME RATE IN TAMPA GOING
11:45:21AM UP.
11:45:22AM THE TPD, PUTTING OUT INFO GRAPHIC AFTER INFO GRAPHIC HOW IT
11:45:29AM IS NOT GOING UP.
11:45:33AM SLICING THE INFORMATION THAT MEETS THEIR NARRATIVES.
11:45:36AM THE EXAMPLE IS, ONE OF THE NARRATIVES.
11:45:38AM ONE OF THE DATA POINTS IS VIOLENT CRIME INVOLVING GUN IS
11:45:45AM GOING DOWN.
11:45:45AM OKAY.
11:45:46AM BUT WHAT THEY ARE LEAVING OUT THE MURDER RATE IS GOING UP
11:45:50AM AND AGGRAVATED ASSAULT IS GOING UP.
11:45:52AM INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SKEW THE INFORMATION TO SOMEBODY'S
11:45:55AM POLITICAL AGENDA, LET'S BE HONEST WITH THE PUBLIC AND
11:45:59AM TALKWHAT WE ARE DOING WELL AND NOT DOING WELL.
11:46:04AM VIOLENT CRIMES WITH GUNS GOING DOWN AND VIOLENT CRIMES WITH
11:46:08AM A KNIFE IS GOING UP.
11:46:09AM LET'S GIVE IT TO THE PUBLIC.
11:46:13AM ITS NOT FAIR TO THE PUBLIC.
11:46:15AM IT CONFUSES THE PUBLIC.
11:46:17AM IT IS NOT FAIR TO THE PEOPLE PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE
11:46:21AM EVERY DAY TO DEFEND OUR COMMUNITY.
11:46:22AM THANK YOU.
11:46:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:46:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID AND
11:46:28AM THIS IS ALSO TO ME AN ISSUE OF TRANSPARENCY.
11:46:31AM IT IS INTERESTING.
11:46:32AM I WAS ON A RIDE-ALONG TUESDAY NIGHT WITH AN OFFICER WHO JUST
11:46:35AM SAID HOW MUCH HE LOVES HIS CAMERA.
11:46:41AM HE HAS THE SPECIAL THING ON THE DASH AND GETS TO IS
11:46:46AM SOMEWHERE MAYBE A CAR MOVED WHEN HE GOES TO ADDRESS A
11:46:56AM SUSPECT.
11:46:58AM HOW HE IS ABLE TO GO BACK AND USE THE VIDEO TO SEE WHETHER
11:47:05AM OR NOT THEY ARE RIGHT OR AMONG.
11:47:06AM AND GO BACK AND THE SUPERIORS CAN DO THE SAME.
11:47:21AM SO SEE HOW THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT USES IT AND MAYBE DIFFERENT
11:47:29AM SHIFTS WOULD BE VALUABLE.
11:47:30AM FOR THE PUBLIC AND MANAGERIAL REASONS.
11:47:34AM HOW OFTEN ARE WE USING THIS.
11:47:35AM WHY ARE WE USING THIS.
11:47:37AM WE CAN HAVE THE COMMUNITY CONVERSATION WHETHER A MUTE
11:47:40AM FEATURE IS REALLY GOOD FOR BAD FOR THE COMMUNITY REALLY ALL
11:47:47AM ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND ENSURE OTHER JURISDICTIONS IS SIMILAR
11:47:56AM IN SIMILAR DATA.
11:47:57AM THANK YOU.
11:48:01AM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:48:03AM THANK YOU.
11:48:06AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:48:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER 8.
11:48:15AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:48:30AM CHIEF TRIPP WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
11:48:33AM HAPPY NEW YEAR.
11:48:34AM GLAD TO SEE EVERYONE.
11:48:35AM I JUST WANTED TO REVIEW THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM THAT WAS
11:48:42AM MENTIONED AND PRETTY MUCH SAY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE REPORT ON
11:48:46AM DISTRICT 7.
11:48:47AM AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
11:48:52AM AND I AM WORKING FOR ONE FOR THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT
11:49:00AM CITY COUNCILMEMBER VIERA, I WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AS FAR
11:49:05AM AS YOUR DISTRICT IF THAT IS LAW WANT.
11:49:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I, MR. CHAIR.
11:49:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:49:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SPEAK AFTER.
11:49:15AM THE INTENT OF THE MOTION NOR FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER
11:49:19AM PLAN AS IT APPLIES TO DISTRICT 7.
11:49:22AM OBVIOUSLY TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:49:26AM INQUIRING WHAT THE MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET WILL BE
11:49:30AM SPENT ON IF YOU KNEW.
11:49:31AM AND DEALING WITH RESPONSE TIMES IN NEW TAMPA AND PROSPECTS
11:49:34AM OF A NEW STATION IN NORTH TAMPA.
11:49:36AM AND JUST SEEING WHERE WE ARE AT ON THAT GO INTO DETAIL.
11:49:49AM ABSOLUTELY, I DON'T EXPECT TO YOU DO A FULL PRESENTATION.
11:49:54AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: OKAY.
11:49:54AM GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.
11:49:55AM '19, IN JANUARY BEFORE I GOT IN THIS POSITION, A NEW STATION
11:50:00AM WAS OPENED WHICH INCLUDED A FIRE ENGINE, RESCUE TRANSPORT
11:50:04AM UNIT, AS WELL as AREA LADDER.
11:50:06AM THAT WAS STATION 23 THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE.
11:50:08AM SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION, NOVEMBER OF 20 --
11:50:14AM NOVEMBER OF 2020 OF COURSE SPEAKING TO CITY COUNCIL,
11:50:23AM ASSISTANCE IN THE AREA.
11:50:24AM WE RELOCATED SOME UNIT AND PUT UNITS IN SERVICE WITH THE
11:50:29AM CALL VOLUME IN NORTH TAMPA, 13 IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION AND
11:50:34AM ABLE TO RESPOND IN THAT AREA.
11:50:37AM WE ADDED ANOTHER ENGINE TO THAT AREA TO HELP WITH A CALL
11:50:40AM VOLUME.
11:50:40AM A RESCUE CALL WAS PUT IN MAKING THAT TRANSITION.
11:50:44AM RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO ENGINES AND TWO RESCUE CARS COMING OUT
11:50:48AM OF STATION 13.
11:50:49AM THE CAR VOLUME HAS ASSISTED AS FAR AS THE MULTIPLE UNITS.
11:50:53AM WITH THAT, AND TOOK PLACE IN MARCH OF 2021.
11:50:59AM AS I LOOKED TO SEE WHAT ELSE COULD BE DONE TO HELP WITH THE
11:51:05AM NORTH TAMPA AREA, THE CONVERSATION AND THE PLAN WAS TO TAKE
11:51:10AM OVER FIRE STATION 11.
11:51:11AM WE CONVERTED AND PUT TWO TRANSPORT UNITS BECAUSE AS I ALWAYS
11:51:16AM STATED IN MY COMMENTS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE HAVE
11:51:18AM BEEN RUNNING RIGHT AT 90,000 CALLS, 80,000 MEDICAL CALLS.
11:51:23AM THE GOAL IS TO ADD WHAT IS NEEDED AND THAT IS MEDICAL
11:51:26AM RESPONSE.
11:51:27AM WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE CONVERTED OLD STATION 11 INTO --
11:51:34AM TOO HAVE TWO AMBULANCE TRANSPORT UNITS COMING OUT OF THERE.
11:51:37AM EVEN THOUGH THAT WAS DISTRICT 6, BUT BACKS UP DISTRICT 7 AND
11:51:41AM DISTRICT 5.
11:51:42AM HELPS THAT NORTH TAMPA AREA.
11:51:44AM THE CALL VOLUME.
11:51:45AM THE UNIT.
11:51:46AM OUR UTILIZATION HAS DECREASED WHEN IT COMES TO EACH
11:51:50AM INDIVIDUAL UNIT, OKAY.
11:51:51AM SO TO CONTINUE WITH DISTRICT 7, IN MARCH OF 2022, I RECEIVED
11:52:00AM A LETTER MEMO FROM YOU CONCERNING THE HEAVY RESCUE, THE
11:52:04AM RESCUE THAT WAS STORED AT SUPPLY.
11:52:05AM I HAD A PLAN WITH THAT.
11:52:07AM BUT BECAUSE OF YOUR MEMO I WANTED TO PRETTY MUCH PUT THAT IN
11:52:11AM USE.
11:52:12AM YOU ARE CORRECT.
11:52:12AM DOWNTOWN TAMPA WAS THE ONLY UNIT WHEN IT COMES TO A HEAVY
11:52:17AM RESCUE RESPONSE IT TOO 30, 40 MINUTES TO GET UP THERE.
11:52:20AM ONE WAS NEEDED UP THERE.
11:52:22AM IN THE BUDGET, I ASKED FOR TWO HEAVY RESCUE CARS -- HEAVY
11:52:27AM RESCUE UNITS.
11:52:27AM WENT TO WISCONSIN.
11:52:29AM DID A PRECON.
11:52:30AM THEY WILL BE HERE WITHIN A YEAR.
11:52:31AM WITH THAT IN SERVICE, IMPLEMENTED TO NEW HEAVY RESCUE WHICH
11:52:37AM IS THE MINI AND MADE CHANGES AT STATION 21 NOW.
11:52:41AM PUT ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT ON THERE AS WELL AS PERSONNEL TO BE
11:52:44AM ABLE TO USE THAT TYPE OF EQUIPMENT AND TO BE ABLE TO
11:52:47AM RESPOND.
11:52:48AM INCREASE LEVELS OF SERVICE WHEN IT COMES TO HEAVY RESCUE IN
11:52:52AM THAT AREA.
11:52:53AM WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, AS I STATED, WE HAVE ADDED -- WE
11:53:03AM CLEANED ALL OF THE STATIONS.
11:53:05AM ALL OF THE STATIONS HAVE BEEN CLEANED, EVEN IN DISTRICT 7.
11:53:08AM WE ARE REPAVING STATION 20.
11:53:10AM THE PAVEMENT OUT THERE.
11:53:11AM WHICH IS GOING INTO PLACE THIS WEEK.
11:53:14AM NEXT WEEK.
11:53:15AM WE -- WE REPLACED STATION 21 AC SYSTEM THAT WAS DONE IN
11:53:21AM 2022.
11:53:22AM AND WE IMPLEMENTED ALL OF OUR --
11:53:36AM [INAUDIBLE]
11:53:36AM -- TRUCK 13, 21 AND 23 AND INCREASE OF SERVICES IN THAT.
11:53:41AM AS WE SPEAK NOW, NOW THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SOME OTHER WITH
11:53:45AM -- WITH ENGINE 24, I NEED TO FIND A STATION.
11:53:49AM I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS REAL
11:53:52AM ESTATE TO LOCATE AN APPROPRIATE PLACE TO PUT STATION 24.
11:53:56AM MY GOAL IS TO PUT IT IN THE USF AREA TO HELP WITH THAT
11:54:02AM RESPONSE TIME AND BASED ON THE HEAT AND THE CALL VOLUMES.
11:54:05AM THAT IS WHERE THE AREA NEEDED.
11:54:06AM WITH THAT SAID, I THINK THAT IS PRETTY MUCH AN UPDATE FOR
11:54:09AM DISTRICT 7.
11:54:11AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:54:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:54:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: I -- AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT, CHIEF
11:54:18AM TRIPP.
11:54:18AM WE ALSO INVITED TAMPA FIRE FIGHTER 754 TO COME UP.
11:54:23AM I DON'T KNOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, AFTER YOU HAVE STAPLES, YOU WANT
11:54:28AM THEM TO SPEAK AS WELL?
11:54:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR CHIEF TRIPP.
11:54:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: I TELL YOU WHAT, WITH REGARDS TO THE PUBLIC
11:54:37AM SAFETY MASTER PLAN BECAUSE I ASKED FOR JUST A STATUS OF
11:54:40AM THAT.
11:54:40AM AND I WILL GO THROUGH THE TIMELINE I SPEAK AFTER LOCAL 754
11:54:46AM SPEAKS, ETC.
11:54:47AM WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT.
11:54:48AM I DON'T WANT YOU TO GO INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THAT, BUT A
11:54:53AM DOCUMENT WITH A -- WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT?
11:54:58AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: BACK IN 2021, WE GOT AN OUTSIDE SOURCE TO
11:55:03AM COME INTO THE CITY OF TAMPA WHEN IT COMES TO RESPONSE TIME.
11:55:05AM WITH THAT -- WITH THAT INFORMATION THAT WAS RELAYED, THE
11:55:09AM RESULTS OF THAT, HAVE ALLOWED ME TO MAKE THE CHANGES WE HAVE
11:55:12AM MADE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND WANT SOMETHING DOCUMENTED AS
11:55:15AM FAR AS THE MASTER PLAN I HAVE BEEN WORKED ON AND ALL OF THIS
11:55:17AM IS COMING OUT OF THAT MASTER PLAN.
11:55:19AM I CAN FINALIZE MY MASTER PLAN AND PROVIDE IT TO THE ENTIRE
11:55:25AM COUNCIL.
11:55:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE THAT -- SORRY, MA'AM, WERE YOU --
11:55:30AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I CAN BRING THAT TO THE ENTIRE COUNCIL.
11:55:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: GUILT THROUGH THE HISTORY OF WHAT COUNCIL IS
11:55:38AM REQUESTED ON THAT FOR ALL OF US INCLUDING YOURSELF FIRST AND
11:55:41AM FOREMOST, THE SENSE OF GREAT CERTAINTY FOR THIS.
11:55:44AM MY IDEA ON THIS WAS TO SEE WHERE ALL OF OUR DEFICITS ARE AT
11:55:49AM FOR ALL OF THE CITY OF COUNCIL.
11:55:51AM BEGAN THIS COUNCIL WITH LOOKING AT EAST TAMPA AND GUDES
11:55:57AM DEALT WITH A LOT THERE.
11:55:58AM AND EAST TAMPA, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR TWO AND A
11:56:02AM HALF TO THREE YEARS NOW.
11:56:03AM TO HAVE ONE REPORT THAT WE CAN LOOK AT -- I BELIEVE THE
11:56:07AM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES THIS AND ONE REPORT THAT WE CAN
11:56:09AM SEE ALL OF OUR -- AND PLAN TO REMEDY THOSE DEFICITS.
11:56:16AM TALK OF A MONETARY PLAN, WHETHER IT IS MORE REVENUE,
11:56:20AM WHATEVER IT MAY BE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE CITYWIDE DEFICITS.
11:56:23AM WHEN I LOOK THROUGH ALL OF OUR CITY OF TAMPA, OBVIOUSLY NOT
11:56:27AM JUST NORTH OF NEW TAMPA, BUT WATER STREET.
11:56:30AM AND SERIOUS ISSUES THAT ARE THERE.
11:56:32AM WE SEE ON WEST SHORE, CONTINUING NEEDS THERE.
11:56:35AM WEST TAMPA, A LOT OF WORK FORCE HOUSING BEING BUILT THERE.
11:56:38AM SOUTH OF GANDY.
11:56:39AM I KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED A LOT ABOUT THAT AND THAT
11:56:44AM WILL BE COMING UP.
11:56:45AM A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT TO MAKE THE POLICY DECISION WITH THE
11:56:48AM MAYOR AND DEFICITS AND HAVE THEM REACH THEM.
11:56:50AM THAT IS KIND OF WHAT I AM LOOKING FOR, BUT I APPRECIATE IT.
11:56:54AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING IN THIS POSITION
11:56:57AM AND HOW THINGS TOOK PLACE.
11:56:59AM I WAS GIVING NOTHING.
11:57:00AM SO PRETTY MUCH I AM STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
11:57:03AM OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
11:57:05AM ACCUMULATE A LOT OF THE AREA AND STUFF AND WHERE THE NEEDS
11:57:09AM ARE.
11:57:09AM PRETTY MUCH I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS
11:57:13AM WITH CHIEF OF STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE GET SOMETHING
11:57:15AM IMPLEMENTED.
11:57:16AM IF YOU WANT AN ACTUAL DOCUMENT.
11:57:18AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ONE FROM THE ENTIRE COUNCIL WHAT I AM
11:57:23AM WORKING ON, AND THE PLAN FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE ON THIS
11:57:26AM POSITION.
11:57:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM, I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:57:29AM I WANT US TO MAKE THE PUBLIC POLICY DECISION WITH THE PUBLIC
11:57:33AM TO TALK OF THE ECONOMIC BRIDGE TO GET TO REVENUE OR PUBLIC
11:57:36AM SAFETY DEFICIT.
11:57:37AM I THINK THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO KNOW WHERE THE DEFICITS ARE
11:57:41AM AT AND HOW MUCH IT WILL COST TO REMEDY THOSE DEFICITS A
11:57:44AM VERY, VERY ISSUE THIS TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY AN FINANCIAL
11:57:49AM BRIDGES TO GET TO WHERE THE NEEDS ARE.
11:57:50AM I WILL SPEAK MORE AFTER 754, BUT THANK YOU.
11:57:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:57:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
11:57:57AM JUST LIKE -- JUST LIKE YOU CALLED ME AND TALK TO ME 37 I
11:58:01AM TALKED TO UNION PRESIDENTS TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS.
11:58:03AM EVERYONE'S CONCERNS.
11:58:05AM AND IT IS A BALANCE.
11:58:06AM IT IS A BALANCE.
11:58:07AM YOU GOT A NEW PRESIDENT NOW.
11:58:10AM IT'S OVER THERE.
11:58:11AM YOU HAVE A NEW FIRE CHIEF.
11:58:13AM SO HE HAS A PLAN.
11:58:14AM YOU COME IN.
11:58:15AM YOU GOT A PLAN.
11:58:17AM BECAUSE ANY MANAGER OF TEAM TAKES OVER.
11:58:20AM THEY BRING SOME IDEAS AND EVERYBODY HAS AN IDEA.
11:58:23AM SO I AM HOPING THAT YOU AND HIM GET TOGETHER TO GET THE
11:58:26AM IDEAS OUT THERE FOR WHAT IS BEST FOR ALL OF OUR FIRE
11:58:31AM FIGHTERS.
11:58:31AM WHEN TALK OF THE CALL VOLUME, WE PUT THOSE TWO RESCUE CARS
11:58:36AM UP THERE.
11:58:36AM THE CITY IS GROWING.
11:58:37AM I AM GLAD YOU TALKED ABOUT -- STILL -- THE CALLS ARE STILL
11:58:43AM GROWING AND PUT THE UNITS AND GET ANOTHER STATION TO HELP
11:58:46AM OUT.
11:58:46AM BECAUSE THAT VOLUME WILL INCREASE IN THE AREA WITH THE
11:58:48AM BUILDING GOING ON.
11:58:49AM SO I AM GLAD YOU DID KIND OF TALK ABOUT THAT.
11:58:51AM AND, AGAIN, THE MASTER PLAN, LOOKING AT -- LOOKING AT WAYS
11:58:57AM TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE CITY AS A WHOLE.
11:58:58AM I AM APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
11:59:00AM BECAUSE I ALWAYS SAY DOWNTOWN AND CHANNELSIDE.
11:59:04AM WE GET A MAJOR ISSUE.
11:59:06AM I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE APPARATUS TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO
11:59:09AM DO.
11:59:09AM I AM VERY AFRAID OF THAT.
11:59:11AM HOPEFULLY IN THE MASTER PLAN WE CAN INCORPORATE AND MR.
11:59:14AM VIERA WILL GET A BOND.
11:59:16AM AND I LOOK AT STATION 10.
11:59:17AM A DUMP.
11:59:19AM IT'S OLD.
11:59:20AM SOME OF THESE STATIONS ARE OLD AND NEED TO BE FIXED UP
11:59:24AM AROUND THE CITY.
11:59:24AM PORT TAMPA.
11:59:25AM SOUTH TAMPA WHERE MR. CARLSON IS AT.
11:59:28AM THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO APPROVE MONEY.
11:59:29AM PUBLIC SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE.
11:59:31AM ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S LIVES.
11:59:33AM AND THE POLICE ARE IMPORTANT, BUT I TELL YOU THAT FIRE
11:59:36AM RESCUE CAR AND THAT FIRE IS VERY IMPORTANT TO GET IT TO THE
11:59:39AM PEOPLE.
11:59:40AM AND I AM SURE THIS COUNCIL WILL GIVE YOU AND WHAT YOU NEED
11:59:43AM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
11:59:44AM SO I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE MASTER PLAN.
11:59:47AM I KNOW YOU TALK ABOUT THE RADIOS AND THE CAST SYSTEM.
11:59:54AM THAT IS COMING FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE THAT IN
11:59:57AM FRONT OF COUNCIL FOR THE COUPLE OF WEEKS OR MONTHS BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A
12:00:01PM LONG TIME COMING FROM THAT.
12:00:02PM AND WILL BE GLAD TO HEAR OF THE REPORT.
12:00:04PM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT BACK IN 2020
12:00:07PM WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE SYSTEM.
12:00:09PM AGAIN, YOU REALIZE THAT SYSTEM DOES NOT WORK, IS NOT
12:00:11PM COMPATIBLE, AND YOU DID THE RESEARCH TO FIND THE FINEST
12:00:16PM SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO WORK, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THAT
12:00:18PM SOONER RATHER THAN LATER AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY WITH THAT.
12:00:20PM SO AGAIN I DO WANT TO APPLAUD YOU, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT
12:00:26PM OF ISSUES.
12:00:28PM YOU ARE THE BOSS NOW, SO TRYING TO FIGURE YOUR WAY, AND
12:00:32PM AGAIN YOU'VE GOT THE UNION, SO HOPE WE CAN STILL MESH
12:00:34PM TOGETHER AND GET IT ALL WORKED OUT SO EVERYBODY CAN BE HAPPY
12:00:37PM AND WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM.
12:00:38PM THANK YOU.
12:00:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:00:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU AND I HAD ALONG CONVERSATION YESTERDAY,
12:00:42PM THE DAY BEFORE, AND I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE IN YOUR
12:00:45PM ABILITY TO HANDLE THIS AND STRATEGIZE ABOUT IT, AND YOU SEEM
12:00:53PM TO HAVE A VERY GOOD PLAN IN YOUR HEAD.
12:00:54PM I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU PRESENT TO THE EVERYONE.
12:00:59PM CONSTITUENTS AT THIS CITY ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE FOR YEARS
12:01:03PM THERE WAS A FOCUS ON INVESTING IN DOWNTOWN AND THE REST OF
12:01:06PM THE CITY TO SOME EXTENT WAS IGNORED, AND THEY WANT TO KNOW
12:01:10PM WHY THEY ARE NOT GETTING THE RESOURCES THEY NEED.
12:01:13PM AND THIS AFFECTS A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS.
12:01:15PM AND WE, CITY COUNCIL, HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SEVERAL YEARS
12:01:20PM FOR A CITY-WIDE SIDEWALK PLAN, CITY-WIDE MOBILITY PLAN,
12:01:25PM WHICH INCLUDES ROADS WHICH PEOPLE WANT, CITY-WIDE PARKS
12:01:28PM PLAN, THEY WANT TO KNOW WHY THE BENCHES ARE FALLING APART
12:01:31PM AND WHY THE ROADS ARE ALMOST IMPASSABLE WITH THEIR CARS ARE
12:01:34PM BREAKING, AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHY WHAT HAPPENED A COUPLE
12:01:40PM WEEKS AGO SOMEONE PASSED AWAY, THE ALLEGATION IN THE
12:01:42PM COMMUNITY WAS IT WAS NOT -- A TRUCK WAS NOT ABLE TO GET
12:01:47PM THERE FAST ENOUGH.
12:01:48PM WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT SOMEBODY ELSE WILL DECIDE.
12:01:51PM WE ALL KNOW IN THIS AREA WE NEED MORE INVESTMENT AND WE NEED
12:01:54PM MORE COVERAGE, AND YOU BELIEVE THAT.
12:01:56PM THERE ARE LIMITED DOLLARS, AND AS MY COLLEAGUE CHARLIE
12:02:01PM MIRANDA SAYS, WE ARE GOING TO LOSE THE CIT MONEY WHICH
12:02:05PM REALLY SCARES ME BECAUSE WE NEED MORE INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC
12:02:08PM SAFETY, NOT LESS.
12:02:09PM I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR PROPOSING
12:02:13PM A CITY-WIDE PUBLIC SAFETY PLAN.
12:02:15PM THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED.
12:02:16PM WE NEED WITH ALL OF THESE CITY-WIDE PLANS TO BE ABLE TO GO
12:02:20PM TO THE PUBLIC AND SAY THAT THE PLANS AND PRIORITIES ARE NOT
12:02:23PM JUST THE DEFICITS, BUT ALSO THE PRIORITIES WERE SET BY
12:02:28PM PUBLIC INPUT, BUT ALSO BY AN OBJECTIVE STANDARD.
12:02:33PM THE UNION ALSO, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I THINK MR. GRECO OR
12:02:38PM SOMEBODY PRESENTED THE GPS STUDY WHICH THEY HAD DONE, AND I
12:02:42PM HOPE YOU UTILIZE THAT AS WELL.
12:02:43PM THE ISSUE IS THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL THE PUBLIC THAT
12:02:49PM SOLUTIONS ARE COMING, BUT IF THE RESPONSE TIME IN ONE AREA
12:02:54PM IS 15 MINUTES AND RESPONSE TIME IN ANOTHER AREA IS 20
12:02:59PM MINUTES, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TELL THEM, WE WANT TO SOLVE
12:03:02PM THAT 10 MINUTE PROBLEM BUT WE NEED TO SOLVE THE 20 MINUTE
12:03:05PM PROBLEM FIRST.
12:03:06PM SO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY WILL UNDERSTAND THEY MIGHT
12:03:08PM NEED TO SACRIFICE FOR A LITTLE LONGER IF SOMEONE IN MY
12:03:11PM DISTRICT SAYS, WHY IS IT THAT THERE'S A POT HOLE EVERY OTHER
12:03:14PM FOOT ON MY STREET AND WE ALL PAY A LOT OF TAXES, WHY IS THAT
12:03:18PM HAPPENING?
12:03:18PM IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO TELL THEM THAT THE ROAD REPAIR BUDGET IS
12:03:20PM EVERY SEVEN YEARS, THEY WANT TO KNOW WHEN IN THE ROTATION
12:03:24PM THEY ARE GOING TO BE.
12:03:25PM SO ON FIRE SAFETY, WE DESPERATELY NEED MORE COVERAGE IN
12:03:31PM SOUTH TAMPA.
12:03:33PM WE CAN EACH MAKE POLITICAL PLAY, AND RALLY PEOPLE TO DEFEND
12:03:37PM OUR AREAS AND TRY TO GET US A HIGH PRIORITY.
12:03:40PM I THINK WHAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IS THE PUBLIC IS AN
12:03:42PM OBJECTIVE STANDARD; SO I HOPE WHEN YOU COME BACK THAT YOU
12:03:44PM WILL SHOW EQUITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND SOUTH TAMPA HAS TO
12:03:49PM BE INCLUDED THERE, TOO.
12:03:50PM SOUTH OF GANDY AS THEY COME BEFORE US HAS A LOT MORE DENSITY
12:03:53PM THAN THEY USED TO HAVE.
12:03:54PM THE REST OF SOUTH TAMPA HAS A LOT MORE DENSITY, MANY
12:03:58PM THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE LIVING THERE.
12:04:00PM WHEN YOU TALK TO THE FIREFIGHTERS, THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH
12:04:02PM PEOPLE TO COVER, ESPECIALLY THE ONE UNIT YOU AND I TALKED
12:04:04PM ABOUT IS ALSO A MARINE UNIT.
12:04:06PM I WENT WITH THEM OUT TO THE BOAT, AND IF THEY ARE OUT ON THE
12:04:09PM BOAT, IT TAKES A LOT LONGER TO RESPOND.
12:04:12PM YOU UNDERSTAND THAT.
12:04:13PM THERE'S A SPACE IN PORT TAMPA THAT'S ON YOUR LONG-TERM LIST
12:04:17PM TO MAYBE REACTIVATE.
12:04:18PM I KNOW ONE STATION YOU MAY BE LOOKING TO PUT A RESCUE CAR.
12:04:22PM JUST PUTTING RESCUE CARS IN WOULD BE A LOT BETTER BECAUSE IF
12:04:25PM YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LADDER TRUCK TO GO TO AN OVERDOSE OR
12:04:28PM HEART ATTACK, IT MAKES IT A LOT MORE COMPLICATED AND PUTS
12:04:31PM WEAR AND TEAR ON TRUCKS THAT ARE ALREADY TOO OLD.
12:04:33PM SO I WANT TO SUPPORT YOU.
12:04:34PM THE ONLY THING I ASK IS THAT YOU WORK WITH THE UNION AND
12:04:37PM THEIR DATA WITH THE GPS AND EVERYTHING AND THAT YOU COME
12:04:40PM BACK TO US WITH AN EQUITABLE OBJECTIVE PLAN SO WE CAN GO TO
12:04:44PM THE PUBLIC AND SAY YES, WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE MORE
12:04:47PM SERVICES AND HERE IS THE TIMELINE FOR WHEN WE ARE GOING TO
12:04:49PM DO IT.
12:04:50PM THANK YOU.
12:04:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:04:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY COLLEAGUES CARLSON AND GUDES ALLUDED
12:04:57PM TO, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE ARE FACING, WHOEVER SITS IN
12:05:01PM THESE SEVEN CHAIRS THE NEXT ELECTION IS GOING TO HAVE THE
12:05:04PM LAST BITE OF THE APPLE FOR THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX, BUT
12:05:07PM THAT APPLE, FIRST BITE STARTS WITH THE COMING '23-24 BUDGET,
12:05:12PM BECAUSE IN THERE IS WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE STEP
12:05:15PM FORWARD, EITHER MOVE OR STAY EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE AT.
12:05:19PM AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER PROBLEM THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED.
12:05:22PM IT'S NOT ONLY THE LACK OF BUT THE TRAFFIC SITUATION THAT WE
12:05:26PM HAVE NOW WHERE YOU USED TO TAKE TEN MINUTES, NOW MAY TAKE A
12:05:30PM UNIT 15 OR 20 MINUTES, BECAUSE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO MOVE
12:05:33PM AROUND THE CITY, BECAUSE WE ARE GROWING.
12:05:36PM AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT BRING UP SOME DELAY, NOT ONLY
12:05:41PM THE NEED FOR EXPANSION TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE COVERAGE
12:05:44PM ACCORDING TO THE STATISTICS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE FIRE
12:05:47PM DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DO.
12:05:51PM GOING BACK TO THE BUDGET ITEM, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
12:05:53PM UNDERSTAND, DOESN'T KNOW TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE IT'S NOT
12:05:57PM PUBLICIZED ENOUGH, THAT EVEN IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, IF YOU
12:06:01PM COLLECTED ALL THE MONEY FROM AD VALOREM TAXES, AND YOU APPLY
12:06:05PM IT TO THE POLICE AND FIRE, YOU ARE STILL 25, ALMOST $26
12:06:10PM MILLION SHORT OF FUNDING THE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO DO THE
12:06:14PM WORK FOR THE CITY.
12:06:15PM SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT IT HAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
12:06:20PM AND IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE HAVE EVERY CITY TO HAVE GREAT
12:06:24PM RESPONSE TIME, GREAT POLICE COVERAGE, WONDERFUL PEOPLE
12:06:27PM WORKING.
12:06:30PM THOSE THAT DON'T DIE OUT, BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LIVE
12:06:36PM WHERE THEY FEEL THREATENED BY THEMSELVES IF THEY DON'T HAVE
12:06:39PM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE.
12:06:41PM BUT THE MEN AND WOMEN OF BOTH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND POLICE
12:06:43PM DEPARTMENT ARE ALWAYS NUMBER ONE IN OUR CASE ANYWAY.
12:06:47PM SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED AND I THINK THE
12:06:50PM ADMINISTRATION THINKS THE SAME WAY.
12:06:54PM BUT IT'S NOT ONLY THE SEVEN, IT'S THE WHOLE CITY NOW BECAUSE
12:06:58PM YOU HAVE GROWTH OF 14, 18% ALL OVER THE CITY, AND THOSE ARE
12:07:01PM THE THINGS THAT ARE -- WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH THE TIMES,
12:07:05PM AND THE TIME IS NOW.
12:07:06PM IT CAN'T BE TOMORROW, BECAUSE TOMORROW WILL BE TOO LATE.
12:07:09PM GOT ONE MORE BITE AT THE APPLE.
12:07:15PM IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT YOUR WATCH, IT IS THE END.
12:07:17PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:07:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER COMMENTS?
12:07:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:07:22PM AND A COUPLE OF THINGS, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR.
12:07:25PM THIS REPORT WHEN IT APPLIES TO SEVEN IS ONLY ON THE MILLION
12:07:29PM DOLLARS.
12:07:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
12:07:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THAT'S ACTUALLY WHY I PROPOSED A PUBLIC
12:07:33PM SAFETY MASTER PLAN SO THAT WE WOULDN'T DEAL WITH DISTRICTS
12:07:36PM GOING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NEW TAMPA SAYS, HEY, FOUR OUT OF THE
12:07:39PM SIX LONGEST RESPONSE STATIONS ARE IN 33647 AND MAYBE SOUTH
12:07:44PM OF GANDY OR WEST TAMPA OR SOMEWHERE HAS A MORE ACUTE NEED,
12:07:49PM LET'S BASE IT ON OBJECTIVE FACTS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, AND
12:07:52PM WITHOUT NEED OF POLITICS.
12:07:53PM AND FOR CHIEF TRIPP, LET ME ASK YOU, WITH REGARDS TO THAT, I
12:07:58PM GUESS IT IS IN FEBRUARY THAT WE CONTINUED IT TO, IS THAT
12:08:02PM ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU?
12:08:03PM BECAUSE LET ME ASK, YOU ARE SAYING NOW WE CAN BE IN WRITING.
12:08:07PM IS THIS SOMETHING THAT TAMPA FIRE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE
12:08:09PM DOING OR IS THERE A CONSULTANT OR A CONTRACTOR RETAINED FOR
12:08:12PM IT?
12:08:13PM BECAUSE, IN OTHER WORDS, DO YOU NEED MORE TIME, UNTIL MARCH?
12:08:16PM BECAUSE MY ORIGINAL MOTION A YEAR TWO, YEARS AGO, WAS IT TO
12:08:19PM BE PRESENTED IN MARCH OF EACH YEAR.
12:08:20PM SO I AM ASKING YOU NOW, DO YOU NEED MORE TIME --
12:08:25PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I CAN GIVE YOU THE MASTER PLAN OF WHAT I HAVE
12:08:27PM AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE FOR TAMPA FIRE BASED ON THE
12:08:30PM RESULTS THAT WE GOT FROM THAT STUDY.
12:08:32PM IT ALL DEPENDS ON -- SO I HEAR EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL.
12:08:38PM I JUST HAVE TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
12:08:40PM WHAT I INHERITED IS SOMETHING THAT WON'T BE ABLE TO BE TAKEN
12:08:43PM CARE OF OVER 24 HOURS, OKAY.
12:08:46PM NOW, I INHERITED A HISTORY OF OVER 127 YEARS OF A DEPARTMENT
12:08:52PM THAT IN MY OPINION I THINK IN 25 YEARS THAT HAVE BEEN BEHIND
12:08:56PM TIMES.
12:08:56PM I FEEL LIKE WE ARE TEN YEARS BEHIND.
12:08:58PM I HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT'S FRONT LINE, THAT'S 1992.
12:09:03PM THAT'S TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
12:09:04PM OKAY.
12:09:06PM MY RESCUE CARS, FIVE-YEAR FRONT LINE, FIVE-YEAR RESERVE, TEN
12:09:10PM YEARS THEY SHOULD BE GONE.
12:09:11PM I HAVE VEHICLES THAT ARE NOW 12 YEARS OLD THAT ARE FRONT
12:09:15PM LINE.
12:09:16PM OKAY.
12:09:16PM THAT'S WHAT CHIEF TRIPP HAS BEEN WORKING ON DAY AND NIGHT,
12:09:19PM OKAY.
12:09:20PM SO I HEAR YOU.
12:09:21PM WHEN I GOT IN THIS POSITION, I GOT IN HERE TO TRY TO MAKE A
12:09:25PM DIFFERENCE AND TO HELP THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, OKAY.
12:09:30PM PERSONNEL, SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION, 104
12:09:35PM FIREFIGHTERS, 104 FIREFIGHTERS, I GOT 23 MORE COMING ON.
12:09:41PM I AM STILL DOWN ANOTHER 50 EMPLOYEES.
12:09:45PM OKAY.
12:09:45PM I CAN'T PUT UNITS IN PLACES WRITE DON'T HAVE THE SEATS FOR
12:09:49PM THEM -- THE PEOPLE TO FILL THE SEATS, OKAY.
12:09:52PM NOT ONLY THAT, SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION, NOT TO
12:09:54PM MENTION COVID, WE HAVE HAD A BACK ORDER ON EQUIPMENT.
12:09:59PM SO OUR RESCUE CARS THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH OUTDATED, OUT OF
12:10:03PM SERVICE, IT'S A 24-MONTH DELAY TO EVEN GET A CHASSIS.
12:10:07PM I ORDERED 15 RESCUE CARS LAST YEAR.
12:10:11PM OKAY.
12:10:12PM I ONLY HAVE TWO.
12:10:13PM TWO JUST CAME IN.
12:10:14PM I HAVE ANOTHER THREE THAT'S PLANNING ON COMING IN RIGHT
12:10:18PM ABOUT APRIL OR MAY OF NEXT YEAR.
12:10:20PM KEEPING MY FINGERS CROSSED.
12:10:22PM THE OTHER TEN, THEY HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED BUILDING YET.
12:10:26PM SO THERE'S NOTHING, WHEN YOU SIT HERE AND SAY WE NEED TO GET
12:10:30PM THIS DONE, I AGREE WITH YOU.
12:10:31PM I GO BACK TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I WAS STATIONED AT STATION
12:10:36PM 15, OKAY.
12:10:38PM WHEN I WENT BACK, MY DAUGHTER IS 22 YEARS OLD.
12:10:41PM FOR THAT TO BE THE ONLY RESCUE CAR THAT'S IN SOUTH TAMPA,
12:10:45PM AND AS MUCH AS SOUTH TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY HAS GROWN, TO ME
12:10:49PM THAT'S TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
12:10:51PM THAT HAS BEEN ON MY LIST SINCE I HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION.
12:10:53PM BUT ONCE AGAIN I GOT TO GET BUTTS TO PUT IN SEATS.
12:11:00PM THAT IS IN MY HEAD.
12:11:01PM THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THESE LAST TWO YEARS TO
12:11:04PM TRY TO GET THIS DONE.
12:11:05PM EVERY CHANCE I GET, I HIRE.
12:11:07PM EVERY CHANCE I GET I PRETTY MUCH TAXED THE HR DEPARTMENT,
12:11:12PM YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE NEED TO OPEN IT UP AGAIN, I'M
12:11:16PM INTERVIEWING.
12:11:19PM I GOT AN INTERVIEW GOING ON NOW.
12:11:21PM SO WHEN IT COMES TO PUTTING EQUIPMENT, JUST LIKE I TOLD
12:11:25PM COUNCILMEMBER CARLSON, MY PLAN IS DEFINITELY TO PUT A UNIT
12:11:29PM DOWN THERE BECAUSE IT'S OVERDUE.
12:11:30PM BUT I HAVE TO PUT BUTTS IN THE SEATS EFFICIENCY AND THE
12:11:34PM FIRST QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.
12:11:36PM NOT TO MENTION I HAVE OTHER PLACES TO PUT BUTTS IN THE SEATS
12:11:39PM BECAUSE WE NEED IT ALL OVER.
12:11:40PM WE ARE BEHIND.
12:11:42PM SO WITH THAT, WHEN YOU ASK OR DEMAND ALL OF THIS, JUST MAKE
12:11:47PM SURE YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
12:11:49PM PERSONNEL, EQUIPMENT.
12:11:51PM I KNOW THE NUMBER ONE OBJECT HERE AS WELL, BUT PERSONNEL AND
12:11:57PM EQUIPMENT.
12:11:58PM IF THE MANUFACTURERS CANNOT MAKE A RESCUE CAR OR TRUCK, I
12:12:01PM CAN'T DO NOTHING ABOUT IT.
12:12:04PM WHEN I SAY MOTOR VEHICLES THAT'S OUTDATED, ENGINES, RESCUE
12:12:08PM CARS, ESPECIALLY UNITS, MY HEAD OF RESCUE JUST ORDER, I
12:12:17PM BELIEVE, IS 12 YEARS OLD.
12:12:19PM THE LADDER THAT'S DOWN HERE, I THINK IT'S 10, 12, GOING ON
12:12:23PM 15 YEARS.
12:12:25PM SO IT'S A LOT OF EQUIPMENT, IN MY OPINION, THAT HAS NOT BEEN
12:12:28PM TAKEN CARE OF IN ORDER TO GET TO THIS POINT WHERE WE NEED
12:12:31PM TO.
12:12:31PM I'M WORKING ON IT.
12:12:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
12:12:34PM AND THAT'S WHY IT ACTUALLY SUPPORTS MY QUESTION, WHICH IS
12:12:38PM THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS FOR MARCH.
12:12:41PM DO YOU WANT MORE TIME TO PRESENT THIS TO MAYBE, A NEW
12:12:46PM CONSULTANT, A CONTRACTOR?
12:12:47PM THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING, DO YOU NEED MORE TIME GIVEN THESE
12:12:51PM MANY ISSUES?
12:12:52PM JUST MAKING SURE.
12:12:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:12:57PM GOING TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FIRST.
12:12:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST A MOTION TO EXTEND TO 12:30.
12:13:02PM >> I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT.
12:13:04PM SECOND.
12:13:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:13:08PM 12:30 IT IS.
12:13:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:13:10PM AND YOU SAID IT.
12:13:11PM YOU DON'T HAVE THE BODIES OF THE YOU HAVE OUTDATED
12:13:13PM EQUIPMENT.
12:13:14PM YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH.
12:13:15PM I MEAN, YOU ARE TRYING TO DO YOUR BEST WITH WHAT LIMITED
12:13:19PM ABILITY THERE IS HERE.
12:13:21PM AND WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT EQUIPMENT FROM 1992, YOU ARE
12:13:26PM ELIGIBLE FOR AN ANTIQUE LICENSE PLATE IN THE STATE OF
12:13:29PM FLORIDA AND THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
12:13:31PM WHEN SECONDS COUNTS, YOU NEED TO BE THERE.
12:13:34PM WE CAN'T HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE THERE IS NOT A QUICK ENOUGH
12:13:38PM RESPONSE TIME, BECAUSE THERE'S THE INABILITY TO DO SO.
12:13:41PM SO SOME OF THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, AND A CONCERN OF MINE IS THE
12:13:46PM C.I.T. EXPIRES AND IT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNERS.
12:13:49PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE RENEWED.
12:13:50PM I AM ALWAYS HOPE IF YOU BUT IT'S GOT TO BE A COUNTY
12:13:54PM INITIATIVE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
12:13:56PM I REMEMBER READING THAT IN 1987 MAYBE, UNDER THE FREEMAN
12:14:04PM ADMINISTRATION, IT WAS TO HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS, I
12:14:08PM THINK. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE, BUT YOU ARE
12:14:10PM SAYING THAT YOU ARE SHORT STAFFED.
12:14:12PM YOU ARE SAYING THAT YOU ARE SHORT STAFFED OF EQUIPMENT, AND
12:14:18PM OUTDATED EQUIPMENT, AND THE MANUFACTURERS AREN'T MAKING IT
12:14:21PM QUICK ENOUGH.
12:14:21PM WE HAVE TO LOOK IT A YOU WILL A OPTIONS.
12:14:24PM WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY, WE CAN'T MESS AROUND WITH
12:14:26PM IT.
12:14:27PM IT'S DELAYED ENOUGH.
12:14:27PM AND YOU ARE HERE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE CATCHING UP WITH
12:14:32PM THAT.
12:14:32PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS AND SEE HOW WE CATCH UP,
12:14:35PM BECAUSE THE CITY IS GROWING VERY, VERY QUICKLY, AND WE NEED
12:14:39PM TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF SERVICE.
12:14:41PM SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU, WE WILL HELP YOU.
12:14:45PM BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE AVENUES, AND HOW TO FUND THAT
12:14:49PM AND MOVE FORWARD.
12:14:49PM THANK YOU.
12:14:50PM >> COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:14:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, WITH THE EQUIPMENT, IS THERE ONLY A
12:14:54PM CERTAIN NUMBER OF COMPANIES THAT MAKE IT?
12:15:01PM OR I THINK THERE ARE RESCUE UNITS OF CERTAIN STYLE THAT WE
12:15:06PM USE MAKING THE BACKLOG?
12:15:09PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THE PROBLEM IS THE CHASSIS.
12:15:11PM ANY CHASSIS.
12:15:12PM I DON'T CARE WHAT PLAN, VEHICLE, MODEL, WHATEVER, IT'S THE
12:15:17PM CHASSIS, IN ORDER TO GET THESE BUILT.
12:15:19PM WE ACTUALLY MOVED TO ANOTHER COMPANY CLOSER TO FLORIDA, AND
12:15:25PM ONE IN FLORIDA, THAT'S IN WINTER PARK, FOR A COUPLE OF
12:15:27PM REASONS.
12:15:28PM A LITTLE BIT CHEAPER, ECONOMIC, AND IT'S LOCAL.
12:15:31PM OKAY.
12:15:32PM SAME PROBLEM.
12:15:32PM SO WHAT DO WE DO?
12:15:34PM THE ONE HERE OR THE ONE IN OHIO, IT'S STILL ON THE CHASSIS.
12:15:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS IN THE OCALA, TOO, DRIVING THESE FIRE
12:15:43PM TRUCKS DOWN HERE?
12:15:45PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THAT IS THE ONE THAT'S MAKING RESCUE CARS.
12:15:47PM THEY DO ENGINES BUT THE ONE WE ARE DEALING WITH IS IN THE
12:15:53PM WINTER PARK AREA.
12:15:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE LAST THING, IN YOUR MASTER PLAN WHEN
12:15:56PM WE TALK ABOUT THE RESPONSE TIME FROM THE UNITS AT THE
12:15:59PM HOSPITAL, IN REFERENCE TO PINELLAS AND OTHER PLACES, THAT
12:16:03PM THE RESCUE UNITS, THEY DROP THE PATIENT OFF, THEY ARE NOT
12:16:07PM WAITING THERE, AND THE HOSPITAL IS NOT TAKING
12:16:09PM RESPONSIBILITY, OR TO LOOK AT OUR RESPONSE TIME, OUR SYSTEMS
12:16:15PM TO GET BACK INTO SERVICE?
12:16:17PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THE ONLY PROBLEM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE WITH
12:16:18PM THAT, I CAN TRY TO PUT SOME INFORMATION IN THERE BUT WHEN IT
12:16:21PM COMES TO THE HOSPITAL WE CAN'T TELL THE HOSPITAL TO TAKE
12:16:24PM THESE THIS PATIENT.
12:16:25PM THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS BUT WITH COVID, THEY DIDN'T
12:16:29PM HAVE THE RESOURCE THERE IS TO RECEIVE THE PATIENTS.
12:16:31PM IT HAS GOTTEN BETTER.
12:16:33PM I CAN TELL YOU THAT, IT HAS GOTTEN BETTER.
12:16:35PM WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE OR LESS A 45 MINUTE WAIT TIME AT THE
12:16:39PM HOSPITALS, AND IF THE UNIT IS NOT AVAILABLE THEY HAVE TO
12:16:42PM RESPOND AND LET US KNOW WHY THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE, AND GET
12:16:45PM IN TOUCH WITH MANAGEMENT AT THE HOSPITAL, SAY HEY, WHAT'S
12:16:48PM THE HOLDUP?
12:16:49PM AND THEY WILL TELL US OR TRY TO RELEASE OUR UNITS AS QUICK
12:16:52PM AS POSSIBLE.
12:16:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
12:16:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
12:16:57PM LET'S GO WITH LOCAL 754, THE NEW PRESIDENT.
12:17:11PM >> I WAS GOING TO SAY GOOD MORNING, BUT NOW GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:17:15PM GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
12:17:16PM CITY STAFF.
12:17:18PM THOSE LISTENING IN.
12:17:20PM I AM NICK STOCCO, THE UNION PRESIDENT OF 754 TAMPA
12:17:25PM FIREFIGHTERS.
12:17:25PM I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR READING THIS TO YOU ALL, SPEAKING
12:17:29PM BEFORE COUNCIL IS SOMEWHAT NEW TO ME, AND ENGLISH IS NOTE MY
12:17:32PM FIRST LANGUAGE.
12:17:33PM I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES OF YOUR TIME TO SPEAK ON
12:17:36PM THIS MOTION.
12:17:37PM ORIGINALLY THIS MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA IN EARLY
12:17:40PM 2020 FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN FOR FIRE RESCUE.
12:17:44PM ADDITIONALLY 24 MOTION WAS TO HAVE A YEARLY STATUS REPORT.
12:17:47PM SINCE THAT MOTION LOCAL 754 HAS PRESENTED A GIS STUDY ON
12:17:53PM EMERGENCY SERVICES RESPONSIBILITY CAPABILITIES ANALYSIS.
12:17:56PM THIS 135-PAGE DOCUMENT WAS GIVEN TO ALL CITY COUNCIL, CITY
12:18:00PM STAFF, AND THE ADMINISTRATION OVER TWO YEARS AGO.
12:18:03PM THE STUDY USED DATA FROM CITY OF TAMPA CAD SYSTEM WHICH IS A
12:18:08PM COMPUTER AIDED DISPATCH TO TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FOR RESOURCES
12:18:12PM AND OR PERSONNEL.
12:18:14PM ON MARCH 25th, 2021, GFR ADMINISTRATION PRESENTED IN
12:18:20PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS THE STATE OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
12:18:22PM THE ADMINISTRATION SPOKE ON HOW FAR BEHIND WE ARE WITH
12:18:25PM REGARDS TO A RAT US AND THE LIFE EXPECTANCY, OUR TECHNOLOGY,
12:18:28PM AND THE COMMUNICATION SYSTEM TO INCLUDE AVLs, WITH I IS
12:18:32PM AUTOMATICALLY VEHICLE LOCATERS AND A SHORTAGE OF STATION
12:18:35PM PERSONNEL AT THAT TIME.
12:18:38PM 17 ENGINES WERE BEYOND LIFE EXPECTANCY, SIX OF WHICH ARE
12:18:41PM FRONT LINES, 17 RESCUES WERE BEYOND LIFE EXPECTANCY, 5 OF
12:18:48PM WHICH WERE FRONT LINE, TWO LADDER TRUCKS WERE BEYOND LIFE
12:18:51PM EXPECTANCY, ONE OF WHICH WAS FRONT LINE.
12:18:54PM IT HAS BEEN YEARS SINCE TFR HAS HAD AN OPERATIONAL ABO AND
12:19:00PM THE FIRE CHIEF IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON RFPS TO GET OUR
12:19:01PM DEPARTMENT BACK INTO THE 21st CENTURY WITH TECHNOLOGY.
12:19:05PM OVER THE LAST 60 YEARS THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS GROWN
12:19:08PM SIGNIFICANTLY, AND IN THAT TIME FRAME TFR HAS NOT ADDED ANY
12:19:13PM ADDITIONAL FIRE STATIONS TO THE CITY PROPER.
12:19:16PM WE HAVE A SHEET HERE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SHOW.
12:19:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE HAVE THE OVERHEAD, PLEASE?
12:19:23PM >> THE 2022 CALLS FOR SERVICE STATUS SHEET.
12:19:32PM CAN YOU ALL SEE IT?
12:19:56PM TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE PERSPECTIVE, IN 2010 TFR RESPONDED
12:20:00PM 66,960 CALLS FOR SERVICE. IN 2022 TFR RESPONDED TO 92,056
12:20:07PM CALLS FOR SERVICE.
12:20:10PM THAT'S ALMOST A 50 PERCENT INCREASE.
12:20:13PM THE LIONS SHARE OF THESE CALLS ARE COMING FROM THE INSIDE
12:20:16PM BOUNDARY OF TAMPA CITY PROPER.
12:20:18PM FIRE STATION 25 HOUSING TWO RESCUE UNITS.
12:20:22PM INITIALLY THIS STATION WAS PRESENTED AS AN ENGINE AND RESCUE
12:20:25PM STATION. THE TWO RESCUE UNITS WERE CONVERTED FROM PEAK
12:20:27PM UNITS TO FULL TIME UNITS AND RELOCATED FROM OTHER AREAS OF
12:20:30PM THE CITY, 712. WHILE THE AREAS SURROUNDING AREA STATION 25
12:20:35PM GOT TWO RESCUES, THE CITY DID NOT GAIN ANY ADDITIONAL UNITS.
12:20:41PM WATER STREET IS BOOMING.
12:20:42PM 9 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF MIXED USE PROPERTY INTO ONE URBAN
12:20:46PM SPACE.
12:20:46PM THE GIS STUDY IN 2020 INDICATES THAT THIS WOULD DOUBLE THE
12:20:50PM SIZE'S OF DOWNTOWN TAMPA'S SKYLINE AND THE NUMBER OF
12:20:53PM HIGH-RISES.
12:20:54PM THE CURRENTS DOWNTOWN FIRE STATION, STATION 1, HOUSES THE
12:20:58PM THIRD BUSIEST ENGINE COMPANY, THE FIFTH BUSIEST RESCUE
12:21:03PM COMPANY, AND THE BUSIEST LAD OR TRUCK COMPANY IN THE CITY
12:21:08PM WAS JUST MENTIONED TO BE 15 YEARS OLD.
12:21:13PM IS TFR CABLE OF MEETING THE DEMANDS OF A CITY THIS SIZE
12:21:18PM ITSELF?
12:21:19PM SPEAKING ON CHIEF TRIPP'S COMMENTS OF MAKING LADDER TRUCK
12:21:20PM COMPANIES AND ALS OR ADVANCED, IT IS A DECADE BEHIND
12:21:24PM OVERDUE, AND THANK YOU, CHIEF.
12:21:28PM HOWEVER, EQUIPPED VEHICLES DO NOT ALLEVIATE RESPONSE TIMES.
12:21:35PM WATER STREET IS NOT THE ONLY AREA IN TAMPA BEING
12:21:38PM REDEVELOPED, MIDTOWN, GAS WORX, WESTSHORE, WESTSHORE GANDY,
12:21:41PM JUST TO NAME A FEW.
12:21:43PM THIS IS WHY A PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN IS CRITICAL TO
12:21:45PM IDENTIFY PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS OF OUR RAPIDLY GROWING CITY.
12:21:49PM AS WE JUST HEARD, DEVELOPERS ARE DEVELOPING. IS PUBLIC
12:21:55PM SAFETY?
12:21:56PM THE STUDIES HAVE BEEN DONE, AND NOW IT'S TIME TO PUT A PLAN
12:21:59PM IN ACTION.
12:21:59PM THE CITY IS GROWING AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE
12:22:02PM GROWING AT THE SAME RATE TO KEEP UP WITH DEMAND.
12:22:04PM THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE FURTHER WE WILL BE BEHIND. LET'S
12:22:10PM IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM.
12:22:11PM JUST YESTERDAY TFR RESPONDED IN NEW TAMPA REPORTS OF A
12:22:15PM PEDIATRIC PATIENT WITH TRAUMATIC INJURY. THE CLOSEST ENGINE
12:22:19PM COMPANY WAS 13 MINUTES AWAY AND THE RESPONDING RESCUE
12:22:22PM COMPANY OR AMBULANCE WAS 17 MINUTES AWAY.
12:22:25PM AT THE SAME TIME ATFR RESCUES WERE WAITING TRANSFER AT THE
12:22:30PM LOCAL EMERGENCY ROOM.
12:22:31PM THIS IS A WEDNESDAY AT 2 P.M.
12:22:36PM NEW TAMPA IS NOT THE ONLY AREA WHERE WE ARE SEEING LONG
12:22:38PM RESPONSES.
12:22:39PM AS YOU HAVE SEEN RECENTLY IN THE NEWS, WE ARE SEEING THE
12:22:42PM SAME LONG RESPONSE TIMES IN THE SOUTH TAMPA AREA.
12:22:45PM SOME MAY SAY WHEN YOU NEED AN AMBULANCE, IT'S QUICKER TO GET
12:22:49PM AN UBER.
12:22:51PM IN CLOSING, WE HAVE GOT TO DO THE RIGHT THING, NOT JUST FOR
12:22:55PM THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA BUT FOR MEMBERS OF LOCAL 754 THAT
12:23:01PM SERVICE THIS GREAT CITY.
12:23:02PM IF IT'S FINANCES, GET CREATIVE.
12:23:04PM YOU CAN REPLACE MONEY BUT YOU CAN'T REPLACE LIVES.
12:23:07PM NOW LET'S START SAVING SOME LIVES.
12:23:09PM THANK YOU.
12:23:09PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:23:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:23:12PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:23:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR THIS.
12:23:16PM AND I AGREE WITH YOU, AND I AM THRILLED THAT YOU ARE WORKING
12:23:20PM WITH THE CHIEF TO DO AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.
12:23:24PM WHEN IT COMES TO FUNDING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE
12:23:28PM HEARD TALKED ABOUT, AND I THINK WE NEED TO BRING UP AGAIN,
12:23:32PM IS A PUBLIC SAFETY TEAM.
12:23:36PM I THINK -- I DON'T THINK DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO HAVE A HUGE
12:23:41PM ISSUE WITH THE FACT THAT THEY ARE BRINGING IN MORE PEOPLE.
12:23:45PM I MEAN, HOW ELSE, WHEN THE C.I.T. GOES AWAY, WHAT ELSE CAN
12:23:48PM YOU DO?
12:23:49PM AND THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD REALLY TAKE A
12:23:53PM CLOSER LOOK AT.
12:23:56PM THAT'S JUST WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO COME WITH THAT BECAUSE
12:23:59PM THAT WOULD BE A CONTINUOUS, AS LONG AS WE ARE HAVING
12:24:02PM DEVELOPMENT, REDEVELOPMENT, THAT WOULD BE CONTINUOUS FLOW OF
12:24:10PM FUNDS.
12:24:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:24:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, YOU HEARD WHAT THE UNION HAS SAID,
12:24:16PM AND YOU PRETTY MUCH TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT
12:24:19PM HAS SAID.
12:24:22PM MANPOWER IS KEY TO SOME OF THE THINGS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
12:24:32PM YOU TRY TO GET THE BODY.
12:24:34PM WE TALKED ABOUT THE BACK ORDER OF THE CAR, YOU ARE TRYING TO
12:24:39PM GET THOSE IN, TOO.
12:24:42PM THE MASTER PLAN, I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE KEY.
12:24:46PM I THINK FOR ME I TALKED ABOUT FROM DAY ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF
12:24:49PM THE CITY CAN DO THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE CAN BE SOMETHING
12:24:54PM THAT SAYS YOU SO WE CAN ADD A RESCUE CAR IN THAT AREA TO
12:25:01PM RESPOND.
12:25:02PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT OR NOT, IF IT WOULD BE A
12:25:05PM QUESTION, MAY COME BACK AND MAKE A MOTION, WITH ALL THESE
12:25:12PM NEW BUILDINGS GOING UP, THAT OTHER NORTHERN CITIES HAVE, I
12:25:18PM MEAN, THAT'S ANOTHER WAY OF PROBABLY CAPTIVATING SOME
12:25:22PM DOLLARS TO HELP THAT DEVELOPER, OR SOME TYPE OF INCENTIVE TO
12:25:27PM PUT IN CERTAIN AREAS.
12:25:29PM I THINK THAT'S KEY.
12:25:31PM I SAY FROM DAY ONE, WE HAVE TO START DOING THAT, AND MAYBE
12:25:35PM OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, BUILDING ALL THIS STUFF, HEY, CAN
12:25:39PM WE GET A PROPORTION OF THOSE BUILDINGS TO INCREASE WHAT WE
12:25:45PM NEED THE RESCUE TIMES? WE TALKED ABOUT THE HOSPITALS, THE
12:25:51PM BIG THING, YOU TALK ABOUT THE HOSPITALS, A CONVERSATION
12:25:54PM AGAIN WITH YOU AND TAMPA GENERAL, AND TO THE HOSPITAL TO
12:25:57PM SEE, WHAT CAN WE DO, 45 MINUTES IS TOO LONG TO BE SITTING AT
12:26:04PM THE HOSPITAL.
12:26:05PM IT'S A LONG TIME.
12:26:06PM AND AGAIN, WE CAN'T CONTROL HOW THEY DO BUT MAYBE WHAT WE
12:26:14PM CAN DO, BECAUSE THAT IS A LONG TIME.
12:26:23PM GET THOSE UNITS MOVING.
12:26:24PM SO MAYBE THAT'S A CONVERSATION YOU CAN HAVE WITH THE
12:26:26PM HOSPITALS AND SEE HOW WE CAN FIX THAT A LITTLE BETTER.
12:26:29PM YOU MENTIONED ALREADY, YOU GOT COVID, A LOT OF THESE THINGS
12:26:32PM WE TALKED ABOUT ALREADY.
12:26:33PM IT'S NOT LIKE YOU AIN'T DIAGNOSE THE WORK.
12:26:35PM WE JUST GOT TO BE ABLE TO GET IT IMPLEMENTED AND GET THE
12:26:39PM DOLLARS AND CENTS TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. I THINK WE ARE
12:26:43PM BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE.
12:26:44PM WE JUST HAVE TO GET IT DONE SOMEHOW, AND THIS COUNCIL IS
12:26:47PM HELPING TO GET IT DONE.
12:26:48PM YOU ALL ARE SAYING THE SAME EXACT THINGS, AND YOU HAVE GOT A
12:26:51PM PLAN, BUT AGAIN WHAT CAN YOU DO, IF THEY DON'T HAVE CHASSIS
12:26:56PM TO GET IT TO US, YOU KNOW.
12:26:58PM SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GO SO PLACE ELSE.
12:27:03PM I DOWNTOWN KNOW.
12:27:03PM BUT AGAIN YOU ALL ARE SAYING THE SAME THINGS.
12:27:06PM WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO GET IT DONE.
12:27:08PM WE'LL HELP DO THAT.
12:27:09PM THANK YOU.
12:27:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING THE LEADER OF
12:27:16PM 754.
12:27:18PM IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT ANY CITY THAT IS GROWING KEEPS UP WITH
12:27:21PM THE DEMAND FOR FIRE AND POLICE, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, THE
12:27:25PM PUBLIC LOSES CONFIDENCE IN THAT CITY.
12:27:28PM THE PUBLIC, NUMBER ONE, ANY CITY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND
12:27:34PM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, NO MATTER WHAT CITIES YOU ARE IN,
12:27:36PM IT'S PARAMOUNT THAT WE DO THAT.
12:27:38PM AND I BELIEVE THIS COUNCIL, AND HOPEFULLY OTHER COUNCILS IN
12:27:41PM THE FUTURE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS PROBLEM TO SOLVE
12:27:44PM THE SITUATION THAT YOU ARE IN, ALL OF US ARE IN.
12:27:47PM YOU ARE IN IT.
12:27:47PM WE ARE IN IT, TOO.
12:27:49PM IT'S KNOW IT THAT WE ARE AGAINST YOU OR YOU AGAINST US.
12:27:51PM EVERYBODY IS IN THE SAME ROOM AND THAT'S BEHIND THE 8-BALL,
12:27:56PM BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH UP.
12:27:59PM AND THE DISTRICT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE CITY, BUT JUST
12:28:04PM EAST OF US, IS ONE THAT NEEDS SERVICE AS LOT BECAUSE YOU
12:28:09PM HAVE A LOT OF TALL BUILDINGS, A LOT OF INFORMATION, A LOT OF
12:28:13PM PEOPLE LIVING THERE IN THIS AREA, AND IF SOMETHING GOES, WE
12:28:19PM CAN'T THINK ABOUT IT HAPPENING, BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY OF
12:28:21PM THE CLOSENESS OF ALL THE BUILDINGS.
12:28:24PM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE 20 LOOK AT AND IT'S UP TO
12:28:27PM THIS COUNCIL, THIS MAYOR TOY TRY TO WORK IT OUT IN IT NEXT
12:28:31PM UPCOME BUDGET BUT AT LEAST OPEN THE DOOR.
12:28:33PM IT'S GOING TO TAKE YEARS.
12:28:35PM IT AIN'T GOING TO BE ONE YEAR OR TWO YEARS.
12:28:37PM IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GET IT DONE BUT I AM HOPE
12:28:40PM INFLUENCE WE CAN DO WHAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE PEOPLE,
12:28:42PM BECAUSE WE TAKE CARE OF THE EQUIPMENT, AND THE MEN AND WOMEN
12:28:46PM IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
12:28:47PM WE TAKE CARE OF THE CITIZENS, WE TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY.
12:28:50PM THANKS VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN IT PAST, THE
12:28:53PM FIREFIGHTERS, WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO AS A LEADER.
12:28:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:28:58PM AND NICK, A GREAT SPEECH AND WHATNOT.
12:29:02PM YOU KNOW, WHETHER OR NOT YOU AND THE CHIEF ARE ON THE SAME
12:29:04PM PAGE, I THINK, REALLY BEARS THE TALL VIEW AND THEN WE HAVE
12:29:10PM WHAT IS COMING IN FEBRUARY, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY
12:29:13PM CRITICAL, AND WE HAVE THE 754 STUDY IN THE ABSENCE OF
12:29:17PM ANYTHING ELSE IN WRITING, THAT'S WHAT I GO WITH.
12:29:19PM AND SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, SOMEBODY FROM THE
12:29:24PM UNION MENTIONED TO ME THAT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT STUDY IS
12:29:27PM PRECOVID.
12:29:27PM SO WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT NUMBERS, MAYBE EVEN IN THE LAST
12:29:30PM NINE MONTHS, IT'S NOT WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE IN TAMPA, AND AS
12:29:34PM PEOPLE GET OUT AND 95% OF PEOPLE MAYBE HAVE, NUMBERS ARE
12:29:40PM GOING TO CONTINUE AND CHANGE WITH REGARDS TO PUBLIC SAFETY
12:29:43PM RESPONSES, ET CETERA.
12:29:44PM I SENSE IN YOU, AND SEEING YOU TODAY, AND AS I ALWAYS SEE
12:29:49PM YOU, A GREAT SENSE OF PASSION, AND URGENCY.
12:29:52PM AND I HAVE SHARED THAT 110%, THAT URGENCY.
12:29:57PM YOU ARE SAID THE DEVELOPERS ARE DEVELOPING.
12:30:00PM IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY THAT'S A BIG QUESTION.
12:30:01PM WE DEALT WITH PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEES.
12:30:06PM IF WE CAN DO THEM, I SUPPORT THEM 110%.
12:30:09PM WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON POTENTIALLY REVENUE AND
12:30:12PM OTHER SOURCES FOR THIS.
12:30:13PM THIS IS A NEED.
12:30:14PM ALL OF OUR CITY OF TAMPA SUPPORTS OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND OUR
12:30:17PM POLICE OFFICERS, VIRTUALLY ALL OF THE CITY DOES, AND PEOPLE
12:30:22PM HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT OTHER REVENUE SOURCES THAT ARE
12:30:25PM REASONABLE AND LIMITED, ET CETERA.
12:30:27PM SUCH AS THAT, I THINK 99% OF PEOPLE WOULD SUPPORT THAT
12:30:29PM BECAUSE PEOPLE SUPPORT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
12:30:32PM BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK IT
12:30:35PM TOOK TO PUT ALL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER, AND GOD BLESS
12:30:38PM YOU.
12:30:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:30:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY, WE ASKED ABOUT A SAFETY IMPACT
12:30:52PM TAX, I CAN'T RECALL, DID WE FINISH THE FINALITY ON THAT?
12:30:57PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: COUNCIL MADE SEVERAL MOTIONS A COUPLE
12:31:00PM YEARS AGO ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF IMPOSING A PUBLIC SAFETY
12:31:03PM IMPACT FEE.
12:31:05PM OUR OFFICE, I PROVIDED A REPORT TO COUNCIL SAYING THAT IS
12:31:10PM LEGALLY POSSIBLE, BUT THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE HAD CERTAIN
12:31:15PM REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE TO MEET, SO WE HAVE TO DO AN ANALYSIS,
12:31:19PM YOU CAN'T JUST IMPOSE IT OF THE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A
12:31:22PM HEARING PROCESS.
12:31:23PM IT CAN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
12:31:25PM SO THERE'S A FINE PROCESS IN STATE LAW, AND THAT'S WHERE THE
12:31:29PM REPORT STOOD, AND ONE TIME, I THINK THINGS STALLED AT THAT
12:31:33PM POINT IN TIME.
12:31:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO SCHEDULED IT.
12:31:37PM ALL RIGHT, TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT THEN.
12:31:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYTHING ELSE?
12:31:45PM I AM GOING TO HAVE THE LAST WORD.
12:31:47PM >> AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID, THE DEVELOPERS ARE COMING,
12:31:52PM AND WITH THAT GROWTH THEY STILL UTILIZE OUR SERVICES.
12:31:55PM SO IF IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, WE WORK OVERNIGHT
12:31:59PM F.THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO ON THE INSIDE WE ARE GOING TO
12:32:01PM WORK AND WHATEVER IT IS.
12:32:03PM >> ANYONE NEEDS FROM US TO FACILITATE RESOURCES, WE WILL BE
12:32:07PM AVAILABLE.
12:32:07PM THANK YOU.
12:32:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
12:32:10PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:32:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY OFFICE WILL WORK ON A MOTION TO BRING
12:32:14PM THAT BACK, TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN, SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
12:32:18PM BECAUSE IF IT'S A LONG ROAD, THEN WE NEED TO GET IT STARTED.
12:32:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, COMING BACK ON FEBRUARY 23rd?
12:32:29PM WAS THAT YOUR MOTION?
12:32:30PM >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:32:38PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: CAN I SAY ONE OTHER WORD?
12:32:41PM I JUST HAPPENED TO HEAR ABOUT A MOTION BEING PASSED IN 2020
12:32:45PM TO DO A YEARLY MASTER PLAN.
12:32:46PM SO MY APOLOGIES I.DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
12:32:49PM IF THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE IN -- WHAT MONTH IT WAS.
12:32:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT WAS ORIGINALLY BROUGHT UP.
12:32:57PM I THINK IN FEBRUARY OF 2020.
12:33:01PM BUT, YEAH, BEFORE YOUR TIME.
12:33:04PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT WASN'T SOMETHING
12:33:06PM I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO BECAUSE I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT A
12:33:09PM MASTER PLAN TO BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
12:33:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING, ABOUT THREE YEARS.
12:33:14PM SO THANK YOU.
12:33:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU NEED A MOTION, MADAM CLERK?
12:33:30PM DEMAND VIERA?
12:33:32PM DID YOU NEED FEBRUARY?
12:33:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: [OFF MICROPHONE]
12:33:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. VIERA.
12:33:38PM CHIEF TRIPP, THANK YOU VERY MUCH INFORM WHAT YOU DID TODAY.
12:33:42PM THIS IS GOING TO TAKE A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT FROM A LOT OF
12:33:46PM PEOPLE.
12:33:47PM WE HAVE CAD, WHICH YOU CAN TAKE I.T., WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
12:33:52PM TO LOOK AT THE INDUSTRIES WHICH SUPPLY THE FIRE TRUCKS, WE
12:33:55PM ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
12:33:58PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RATIO OF POPULATION TO FIREFIGHTER,
12:34:03PM FIRE RESCUE, WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE STAFF.
12:34:07PM THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID.
12:34:08PM WE CAN HAVE ALL THE BRAND NEW BUILDINGS WE WANT, ALL THE
12:34:11PM BRAND NEW FIRE RESCUE TRUCKS WE WANT, BUT AGAIN, AS CHIEF
12:34:14PM TRIPP SAID, WE NEED BUTTS IN THE SEATS.
12:34:21PM CITY OF TAMPA IS VERY UNIQUE.
12:34:23PM OUR POPULATION DOUBLES EACH AND EVERY DAY, SEVEN IN THE
12:34:27PM MORNING TO SEVEN P.M.
12:34:29PM SO IT'S NOT ONLY THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA THAT WE NEED TO KEEP
12:34:33PM SAFE WITH FIRE AND POLICE.
12:34:36PM BUT ALSO THE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM PASCO, POLK, HERNANDO,
12:34:44PM MANATEE, SARASOTA COUNTY, PINELLAS, THAT COME HERE EVERY DAY
12:34:45PM TO WORK.
12:34:45PM I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR REPORT, CHIEF TRIPP AND I AM
12:34:49PM LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING ALSO FROM 754 ON HOW WE CAN MAKE
12:34:53PM THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT BETTER.
12:34:57PM BUT WITHOUT THIS REPORT, WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO BUDGET
12:35:00PM OURSELVES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HANDLE THAT.
12:35:05PM CHIEF TRIPP, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:35:06PM NICK, THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE
12:35:09PM TODAY.
12:35:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO I MOTION IF I MAY FOR FEBRUARY 23rd,
12:35:15PM 2023 FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND LOCAL 754 TO COME, TAMPA FIRE
12:35:20PM RESCUE TO COME WITH A WRITTEN REPORT ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY
12:35:23PM MASTER PLAN.
12:35:24PM I WOULD ALSO REQUEST IF POSSIBLE OBVIOUSLY TO GET IT BEFORE
12:35:28PM SUFFICIENT TIME FOR LOCAL 754 TO REVIEW TO BE ABLE TO
12:35:31PM PREPARE, AND THAT BOTH SIDES BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
12:35:34PM CHIEF, AGAIN, I WILL SAY THIS AGAIN, IF YOU NEED MORE TIME
12:35:37PM TO MARCH, I SAY THIS PUBLICLY, LET ME KNOW, PLEASE.
12:35:41PM THAT'S FINE, OBVIOUSLY.
12:35:42PM BECAUSE WE WANT SOMETHING IN WRITING, AND CONSULTANTS NEED
12:35:46PM TO BE TAKEN, LET'S DO IT.
12:35:47PM THANK YOU.
12:35:48PM AND THAT'S IT.
12:35:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
12:35:52PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:35:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:35:54PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:35:54PM WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
12:36:01PM
12:36:04PM [ RECESS ]
1:30:01PM
1:30:02PM [SOUNDING GAVEL]
1:32:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
1:32:32PM ROLL CALL.
1:32:32PM [ROLL CALL]
1:32:37PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:32:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
1:32:44PM NOW, I BELIEVE WE ARE AT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.
1:32:53PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
1:33:02PM >>OCEA WYNN: ITEM 12 SPEAKS OF THE CAL RIPKEN GRANT
1:33:10PM REGARDING THE BADGES FOR BASEBALL PROGRAM.
1:33:13PM I PROVIDED A MEMO AND WANTED TO KNOW WHAT ADDITIONAL
1:33:16PM QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU.
1:33:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENT OR QUESTIONS?
1:33:34PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:33:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS INFORMATION
1:33:36PM BACK TO US.
1:33:37PM I GUESS THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN REFERENCE TO THE
1:33:39PM PROGRAM, OVER IN THE SPRING HILL AREA, AND I GUESS THIS ALL
1:33:44PM STARTED BECAUSE OF THE LIGHTING, EQUIPMENT, AND FOR THE
1:33:50PM PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE CAN YOU TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
1:33:53PM PROGRAM?
1:33:54PM WHAT IS IT DESIGNED TO DO?
1:33:56PM SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS -- THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, AND FOR
1:34:05PM LIGHTING AND SO FORTH,.
1:34:10PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR, I WILL BE GLAD TO.
1:34:12PM THE LIGHTING OR MAINTENANCE, INFRASTRUCTURE PART OF THE
1:34:14PM PROGRAM, WE ARE GOING TO SEPARATE THAT OUT FROM THE ACTUAL
1:34:19PM CAL RIPKEN FOUNDATION
1:34:21PM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE, THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF
1:34:24PM THAT PIECE OF IT, THAT FALLS WITHIN THE PARKS AND RECREATION
1:34:28PM OVERSIGHT.
1:34:29PM SO I DON'T WANTS ANYONE TO THINK THAT FUNDING SHOULD BE USED
1:34:35PM FOR SOMETHING THAT IT IS NOT.
1:34:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.
1:34:39PM >>OCEA WYNN: THE WAY THE PROGRAM WORKS, THE CAL RIPKEN
1:34:42PM FOUNDATION PROVIDES AN AVENUE FOR A FUNDING LEVEL FOR
1:34:48PM EQUIPMENT, FOR SPORTS.
1:34:52PM WE DON'T RECEIVE ANY TANGIBLE FUNDING.
1:34:56PM WHAT WE DO IS WE PROVIDE A LIST OF WHAT WE NEED FOR
1:34:59PM LOCATION.
1:35:00PM WE GIVE THAT, ALMOST LIKE SHOPPING ON AMAZON, WE PROVIDE
1:35:04PM THAT TO THEM, AND THEN THEY SEND IT TO US.
1:35:07PM SO IN 2019, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FUNDING, OR WE DID NOT
1:35:17PM UTILIZE THIS PROGRAM.
1:35:19PM IN 2021 -- OR 2020 WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE OF COVID,
1:35:23PM BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC.
1:35:24PM IN 2021, WE WERE ALLOCATED A FUNDING LEVEL UP TO $10,000.
1:35:31PM HOWEVER, THE EQUIPMENT AMOUNT THAT WAS USED FOR THAT YEAR,
1:35:35PM WAS PURCHASED FOR THAT YEAR, WAS FOR $2300.
1:35:39PM IT WAS $2300 BECAUSE WE ARE COMING OFF OF THE PANDEMIC, AND
1:35:44PM THE WAY THE PROGRAM WORKS, WE HAVE HAD SO MANY KIDS IN THE
1:35:47PM PROGRAM, AND THAT COMB AND SERVICES THE EQUIPMENT.
1:35:53PM WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OF KID SO THAT'S WHY WE DID NOT
1:35:56PM USE ALL OF THE $10,000.
1:35:58PM IN 2021, WE RECEIVED A GRANT FUNDING UP TO $5,000, AND IN
1:36:06PM THAT PARTICULAR YEAR -- I'M SORRY, I SAID 2021.
1:36:09PM THAT WAS 2022, UP TO $5,000, BUT WE ONLY HAD $4200, PART OF
1:36:19PM THAT $5,000.
1:36:20PM AND WE ARE CURRENTLY ON TRACK TO RECEIVE AN ADDITIONAL
1:36:22PM FUNDING GRANT AMOUNT FOR 2023 AS WELL.
1:36:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO THE GRANT IS BASED ON PARTICIPATION?
1:36:34PM >>OCEA WYNN: IT'S BASED ON PARTICIPATION.
1:36:35PM YES, SIR, IT IS.
1:36:37PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE --
1:36:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TO SAY, WELL, THE MONEY IS BASED ON
1:36:44PM PARTICIPATION, AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE KID, YOU DON'T GET
1:36:49PM $5,000.
1:36:51PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
1:36:52PM IT'S THE GIST TO MAKE SURE TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC IN
1:36:55PM REFERENCE TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY, THAT'S THE
1:36:57PM PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AND THIS GRANT IS FOR OTHER
1:37:02PM ASSETS TO BE USED FOR EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH.
1:37:05PM >>OCEA WYNN: AND THE ADDITIONAL POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE,
1:37:07PM BECAUSE I HEARD THAT THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT WAS A
1:37:15PM POLICE PROGRAM.
1:37:16PM AND WE REACHED OUT TO THE CAL RIPKEN FOUNDATION.
1:37:19PM WE WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE REGARDING THE GRANT
1:37:23PM FUNDING, AND IT'S FOR ANY -- ANY FIRST RESPONDER, ANYONE WHO
1:37:28PM CARRIES A BADGE.
1:37:30PM THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE A MENTORING FOR
1:37:37PM INDIVIDUALS WITH BADGES, IN A POSITIVE WAY, WITH THESE KIDS,
1:37:39PM SO IT'S NOT JUST POLICE, IT COULD BE FIRST RESPONDERS, IT
1:37:43PM COULD BE CODE ENFORCEMENT, SWORN, CARRY A LEGITIMATE BADGE,
1:37:47PM THEN YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO MENTOR THESE KIDS THROUGH THE
1:37:50PM PROGRAM.
1:37:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
1:37:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
1:37:59PM NO OFFENSE TO YOU, MS. WYNN, BUT I WAS HOPING TO SEE MS.
1:38:03PM HILLS HERE AND WISH HER A HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
1:38:06PM HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
1:38:07PM >>OCEA WYNN: THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE HER HERE.
1:38:11PM [ LAUGHTER ]
1:38:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BUT IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU, MS. WYNN.
1:38:16PM >>OCEA WYNN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
1:38:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, I KNOW WE HAVE A TIMELINE, TO
1:38:25PM RECEIVE THE DOCUMENTS.
1:38:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALREADY SIGNED AND DONE.
1:38:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
1:38:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15.
1:38:45PM AND I BELIEVE MR. BHIDE IS GOING TO BE WITH US ON CMT?
1:39:03PM THERE HE IS.
1:39:03PM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR,
1:39:08PM MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, HERE TO ADDRESS ITEM 15.
1:39:11PM ITEM 15 IS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES RELATED TO
1:39:16PM ACCOMMODATING OUR CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND THEIR STAFF DURING
1:39:21PM NIGHT MEETINGS WITH A PARKING FACILITY CLOSE TO CITY HALL.
1:39:27PM AND A MEMO WAS SUBMITTED.
1:39:31PM WE DID REACH OUT TO THE OFFICE AND FOUND A SOLUTION ON
1:39:36PM FRANKLIN STREET, ADJACENT -- A BLOCK FROM THIS BUILDING, AND
1:39:42PM THE MEMO WAS I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS
1:39:47PM TIME.
1:39:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:39:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES OUR
1:40:01PM CLERK PARKS WAY DOWN THE STREET, AND WE GOT OUT LATE, LATE
1:40:05PM SOMETIMES, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE SAFE IN THEIR
1:40:09PM TRAVELS.
1:40:10PM AND I AM GLAD TO ACCOMMODATE THEM NOW, THAT WE HAVE A SPOT
1:40:13PM FOR THEM DURING NIGHTTIME.
1:40:14PM THANK YOU, SIR.
1:40:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY
1:40:18PM QUESTIONS?
1:40:19PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16.
1:40:20PM MR. BHIDE.
1:40:21PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
1:40:26PM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
1:40:28PM ITEM 16 ALSO MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES RELATES TO THE FORT
1:40:37PM BROOKE GARAGE, THE WAIT LIST ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND THE
1:40:41PM POTENTIAL TO ACCOMMODATE STAFF THAT WORK DOWNTOWN IN CITY
1:40:45PM PARKING FACILITIES.
1:40:47PM A MEMO TO THAT EFFECT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
1:40:51PM REALLY THAT HIGHLIGHTS OUR CURRENT WAIT LIST IS OVER 800 FOR
1:40:56PM FORT BROOKE GARAGE.
1:40:58PM IT'S A VERY HIGH DEMAND.
1:41:00PM BUT THERE'S SOME, AS THE MEMO SHOWS, CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED
1:41:03PM WITH IT AS WELL, SPECIFICALLY THE LOCATION OF THE HIGH
1:41:08PM DEMAND LOCATION, OF COURSE, THE LIMITED BARRIERS, TO REMAIN
1:41:14PM ON THE WAIT LIST, AND FINALLY, PARTICULARLY IN FORT BROOKE
1:41:21PM GARAGE, SOME OF THE LARGER BUSINESSES TAKE UP A LOT OF
1:41:25PM SPACES, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING, WE WILL
1:41:32PM BE BRINGING TO COUNCIL FOR REVIEW A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO
1:41:38PM CHAPTER 15, ONE OF WHICH WILL INCLUDE BETTER MANAGEMENT OF
1:41:45PM THE WAIT LIST PROCESS ITSELF.
1:41:47PM SO ONE WILL BE A COST ASSOCIATED FOR REMAINING ON THE WAIT
1:41:54PM LIST ON A PERIODIC BASIS.
1:41:55PM THE OTHER WILL BE THAT THE WAIT LIST WILL TIME OUT AFTER A
1:42:00PM CERTAIN TIME, SO THAT THEY GET ON THE WAIT LIST AND THEY ARE
1:42:08PM THERE FOR YEARS.
1:42:08PM THIS DOES REQUIRE CODE CHANGE AND THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING.
1:42:12PM FINALLY, AS FAR AS ACCOMMODATING OUR TEAM MEMBERS, AND OF
1:42:16PM COURSE WE HAVE SO MANY TEAM MEMBERS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA,
1:42:21PM CITY EMPLOYEES, THAT USE PARKING FACILITIES, OF COURSE.
1:42:24PM SO WE ARE COMMITTED TO ACCOMMODATING THEM IN CITY PARKING
1:42:29PM FACILITIES.
1:42:30PM HOWEVER, WE CANNOT PRIORITIZE THEM.
1:42:35PM THIS IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE LANGUAGE AS PART OF -- WHICH IS
1:42:42PM NEGOTIATED.
1:42:43PM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AS PART OF THE RECENT
1:42:46PM CONTRACT NEGOTIATION, WE DID PROVIDE, OR THE CITY DID
1:42:50PM PROVIDE SOME ASSISTANCE FOR THE COST OF PARKING WHICH IS
1:42:55PM OVER AND ABOVE AS COMPARED TO OTHER EMPLOYEES AT OTHER
1:43:00PM FACILITIES BUT PARKING IS FREE.
1:43:02PM AT THIS TIME I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
1:43:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:43:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THE REPORTED.
1:43:09PM I WAS SURPRISED WHEN I SAW THAT MEMO WAS GREATER THAN WHAT
1:43:12PM WAS FIRST INDICATED.
1:43:15PM I GUESS FOR R FOR ME IT'S MAKING SURE THAT EMPLOYEES ARE
1:43:19PM LATE TO WORK BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FIND A PARKING SPACE.
1:43:22PM I DIDN'T SEE THE REPORT.
1:43:23PM I SHOULD HAVE ASKED YESTERDAY.
1:43:25PM DO WE LEASE OUT SPACES IN OUR PARKING GARAGE TO OTHER
1:43:27PM ENTITIES?
1:43:28PM IS THAT PART OF THIS PROBLEM AS WELL?
1:43:31PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE DON'T LEASE OUT AS MUCH AS WHETHER YOU ARE
1:43:35PM A PERSON OR AN ORGANIZATION, FOR SPACES WITHIN THE GARAGE.
1:43:44PM THEY ARE NOT TREATED DIFFERENTLY.
1:43:47PM BUT THE ISSUE IS THERE ARE LIMITED SPACES.
1:43:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: COULD POSSIBLY ONCE A YEAR, POSSIBLY BRING
1:43:55PM A CHANGE IN CODE TO US THAT WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF
1:43:57PM EMPLOYEES WHO ARE ACTUALLY UTILIZING OUR GARAGES AND SO
1:44:00PM FORTH, THAT WAY WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE SPACES,
1:44:05PM OR THAT WE LOOK AT THAT LIST, AND SO WE BLOCK OFF SO MANY,
1:44:08PM OR GIVE THEM A TIME FRAME, PARKING OR WHAT HAVE YOU, GIVE
1:44:14PM THEM A WAY TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN HAVE A SPACE CLOSER TO
1:44:16PM THEIR WORKPLACE VERSUS SOMEBODY THAT MIGHT BE PARKING IN
1:44:19PM YBOR AND THEY ARE PARKING STILL IN DOWNTOWN HERE.
1:44:23PM IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AS WELL AS A POSSIBILITY.
1:44:27PM HOW MANY EMPLOYEES UTILIZE THE PARKING SPACES HERE, AND THAT
1:44:31PM WE PUT ON A NUMBER SAYING WE HAVE THIS CAP THIS YEAR, WHAT
1:44:36PM WE HAVE PROVIDED SPACES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, OUR TEAM MEMBERS.
1:44:39PM >>VIK BHIDE: ABSOLUTELY, YES, SIR.
1:44:42PM THE MANAGEMENT WILL BE A PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, AND
1:44:45PM THAT WILL BE THE GOAL.
1:44:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
1:44:48PM I APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT.
1:44:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
1:44:51PM THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE.
1:44:52PM LET'S GO TO -- I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:44:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO ASK VIK, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
1:45:00PM LAND USE A LOT, WE TALK ABOUT HOW PEOPLE DON'T NEED PARKING
1:45:04PM ANYMORE, AND PEOPLE WHO ARE PREDICTING A FUTURE A FEW YEARS
1:45:10PM AGO THOUGHT BY NOW WE WOULD HAVE AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES THAT
1:45:13PM WOULD BE OPERATING LIKE UBER AND NOBODY WOULD NEED CARRIAGES
1:45:18PM AND NOT NEED OUR PARKING GARAGE AND TALKING ABOUT CONVERTING
1:45:22PM PARKING GARAGES TO APARTMENTS AND CONDOS.
1:45:25PM THAT SEEMS TO BE 10 OR 20 YEARS OFF NOW, AND YOU SAID WE
1:45:28PM HAVE A LISTING LIST OF 800 PEOPLE.
1:45:30PM HE KNOW IN THE PAST, BECAUSE MY COMPANY WAS IN THE BUILDING
1:45:34PM ACROSS THE STREET FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS, THAT PARKING GARAGE
1:45:40PM IS SEEN AS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE, THAT WHOLE QUADPLEX WAS BUILT
1:45:44PM AS AN ECONOMIC DRIVER IN DOWNTOWN, AND IT SEEMS TO BE ME
1:45:48PM THAT THERE MUST BE A CASE FOR MORE PARKING AND ALSO
1:45:53PM ADJUSTING THE PRICING.
1:45:54PM I NOTICE WE ADJUSTED THE PRICING A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
1:45:57PM BUT ISN'T THERE A CASE FOR MORE PARKING IN SOME WAY, AND
1:46:02PM WOULD IT MAKE SENSE -- I AM NOT SUGGESTING THIS BUT WOULD IT
1:46:05PM MAKE SENSE AT SOME POINT TO LOOK AT SELLING THAT PARKING
1:46:08PM GARAGE TO THE OWNERS OF THE BUILDING AND THEN BUILDING A
1:46:11PM PARKING GARAGE SOMEWHERE ELSE?
1:46:13PM I NOTICE YEARS AGO, MAYBE 20 YEARS AGO NOW, THAT PARKING
1:46:17PM GARAGE, THE CITY TOOK THAT PARKING GARAGE FROM 6 FLOORS TO
1:46:20PM 10 SO THAT INCREASED THE CAPACITY DRAMATICALLY, BUT IT'S
1:46:23PM STILL FULL ALL THE TIME.
1:46:27PM ANYWAY, LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW WE DON'T HAVE A PARKING
1:46:32PM PROBLEM, WE HAVE A WALKING PROBLEM.
1:46:34PM I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE WE LIVE IN FLORIDA, AND WE
1:46:36PM HAVE THUNDERSTORMS EVERY DAY, AND GETTING SOMEBODY TO WALK
1:46:39PM ALL THE WAY TO SKYPOINT OR TO PAM IORIO GARAGE IS NOT
1:46:44PM REASONABLE, I THINK, IN THE HOT SUN OR RAIN.
1:46:47PM AND SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE PARKING FOR BUSINESSES
1:46:52PM DOWNTOWN, AND WE NEED TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT, ENCOURAGE
1:46:55PM BUSINESSES TO COME BACK TO DOWNTOWN, AND PROVIDE PARKING FOR
1:46:59PM THEM.
1:47:00PM THANK YOU.
1:47:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
1:47:03PM VIK, GO AHEAD.
1:47:03PM >>VIK BHIDE: THOSE ARE GOOD POINTS, COUNCILMAN.
1:47:08PM A COUPLE OF THINGS.
1:47:10PM DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, AS YOU ARE AWARE, INVESTED A VERY
1:47:15PM COMPREHENSIVE STUDY, PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN.
1:47:18PM SO ALONG WITH THE WALKING PROBLEM, WHICH IS CERTAINLY
1:47:24PM DEBATABLE HOME BLOCKS IS IT REASONABLE TO WALK, NO DOUBT
1:47:28PM ABOUT THAT.
1:47:29PM BUT WE ALSO, THAT STUDY FOUND, ADEQUATE SPACES FOR TODAY AND
1:47:38PM NEAR FUTURE NEEDS WITH TRANSPORTATION TO MULTI-MOD ALE.
1:47:41PM THE CHALLENGE IS THAT PUBLIC PARKING SPACES ARE ONLY ONE
1:47:44PM THIRD OF DOWNTOWN'S INVENTORY.
1:47:48PM BUT TWO-THIRDS OF THE INVENTORY.
1:47:51PM SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL CAPACITY OF PARKING
1:47:56PM AVAILABLE, FROM A LAND MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT, RATHER THAN
1:47:59PM INVESTING IN ASSETS FOR PARKING, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO
1:48:03PM PARK -- AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
1:48:12PM THE FIRST PART OF THE LAND MANAGEMENT, OF COURSE, WAS WHAT
1:48:15PM WE DID A COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, WHICH WAS ADJUST RATES AND
1:48:20PM GET THEM A LITTLE CLOSER TO WHERE WE CAN OPERATE THE
1:48:24PM ENTERPRISE ADEQUATELY, AND WE ARE.
1:48:27PM WE ARE DOING VERY WELL, ESPECIALLY AS COMPARED TO THREE
1:48:30PM YEARS AGO, THEN THE OTHER ASPECT OF IT IS TO FIX THE
1:48:36PM ON-STREET VERSUS OFF-STREET INEQUITIES THAT HAVE EXISTED.
1:48:41PM THAT HAS ALSO HELPED.
1:48:42PM BUT THOSE EFFORTS ARE UNDERWAY.
1:48:43PM WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN A COUPLE OF LATE ADJUSTMENTS, AND A
1:48:46PM THIRD POINT TO COME UP IN A YEAR, AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT
1:48:51PM LAND MANAGEMENT ASPECT AS WELL.
1:48:53PM AS FAR AS CONVERSION OF GARAGES TO USE FOR APARTMENTS OR
1:48:58PM SOMETHING ELSE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER FOR PARKING GARAGES
1:49:02PM BECAUSE THEIR LOAD REQUIREMENTS ARE ACTUALLY LESSER THAN
1:49:05PM THOSE OF A RESIDENTIAL OR OFFICE BUILDING.
1:49:09PM SO THOSE CONVERSIONS AREN'T EASY UNLESS A FACILITY IS BUILT
1:49:15PM TO BE SOMETHING MORE THAN A GARAGE AND TRANSITION TO IT OVER
1:49:19PM TIME.
1:49:20PM SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.
1:49:22PM AND WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS.
1:49:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
1:49:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
1:49:29PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
1:49:30PM AND I ECHO WHAT YOU SAY, BECAUSE WHEN I GET OFF THE
1:49:34PM INTERSTATE AT TAMPA STREET, THERE'S THAT CITY PARKING LOT
1:49:38PM RIGHT THERE AND IT'S NEVER FULL.
1:49:39PM SO THERE CERTAINLY IS PARKING.
1:49:43PM BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DISCUSS,
1:49:46PM AND I KNOW ONE OF THE IDEAS WITH POSSIBLY LIKE A DOWNTOWN
1:49:51PM LEAPER, AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT NOW
1:49:55PM GOING TO HAVE TO BE A CITY THING BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE
1:49:57PM ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION MONEY.
1:49:58PM BUT SINCE THAT WOULD BE SOLELY FOCUSED IN DOWNTOWN, MAYBE
1:50:02PM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BRING UP AGAIN.
1:50:06PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
1:50:12PM OR A STREETCAR EXTENSION IS SOMETHING WE HAVE WORKED ON.
1:50:16PM RIGHT FROM THE GET-GO, AS WE ARE GETTING EXISTING PARKING
1:50:20PM INVENTORIES AROUND THE STREETCAR EXTENSION, I WILL BE ABLE
1:50:25PM TO FOSTER EXISTING SPACE FOR MULTIMODAL.
1:50:31PM SO THAT'S A GREAT POINT, THANK YOU.
1:50:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO -- I MEAN, NEW
1:50:37PM PARKING STRUCTURES SHOULD BE FURTHER ON THE EDGES OF
1:50:39PM DOWNTOWN AND BRINGING PEOPLE IN USING THE TRANSIT.
1:50:42PM EVEN, AGAIN, IF WE HAVE TO DO IT OURSELVES, OR THROUGH THE
1:50:45PM CRA, BECAUSE IT SOUND LIKE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO.
1:50:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
1:50:52PM I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:50:55PM WE DON'T HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM, WE MAY HAVE A COVERED
1:50:59PM PARKING PROBLEM, AND WE MAY NOT HAVE A PARKING SPACE CLOSE
1:51:03PM TO WHERE SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO BUSINESS.
1:51:07PM AND A CIRCULATOR WOULD SOLVE ALL THOSE ISSUES, IN MY OPINION
1:51:13PM SOMEBODY COULD PARK FOUR, FIVE BLOCKS FROM WHERE THEY NEED
1:51:16PM TO GO TO AND THEN TAKE THE CIRCULATOR TO AND FROM.
1:51:20PM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. BHIDE?
1:51:22PM MR. BHIDE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:51:23PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
1:51:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE NOW ONTO OUR CONSENT.
1:51:31PM 17.
1:51:33PM VIK, DID YOU LEAVE?
1:51:35PM I'M SORRY, I LET YOU GO TOO SOON.
1:51:38PM MR. BHIDE?
1:51:46PM I LET YOU GO TOO SOON.
1:51:48PM NUMBER 17.
1:51:49PM >>VIK BHIDE: 17 IS A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO
1:51:53PM RELATED TO TRADER JOE'S AND THE TRAFFIC AROUND THAT.
1:51:57PM A MEMO TO THAT EFFECT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
1:52:03PM SOME ARE SAYING THAT TRADER JOE'S, WHEN IT WAS APPROVED IN
1:52:08PM 2014, IT USED TO BE A FITNESS CENTER, AND IT WASN'T REZONED
1:52:13PM BECAUSE THE USE DID NOT CHANGE, IT WAS COMMERCIAL GENERAL,
1:52:17PM AND SO THE SAME NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES WERE GRANDFATHERED
1:52:21PM IN, IF YOU WILL.
1:52:22PM OF COURSE, TRADER JOE'S IS MUCH MORE POPULAR IN TERMS OF USE
1:52:26PM AND DID CREATE A TRAFFIC CHALLENGE THAT WE SEE.
1:52:31PM WE WORKED WITH FDOT AT SWANN AND DALE MABRY, AND WE CONTINUE
1:52:37PM TO WORK WITH TRADER JOE'S MANAGEMENT TO SEE IF THEY WILL
1:52:41PM CONSIDER EITHER OFF-SITE PARKING OPTIONS, OR PERHAPS MORE
1:52:46PM MULTIMODAL PARKING AS WELL TO WHERE FOLKS THAT ARE AT LEAST
1:52:50PM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN ACCESS IT WITH SOMETHING OTHER THAN
1:52:53PM A CAR, IF THAT IS THEIR WISH.
1:52:57PM BEYOND THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT SOME TRAFFIC ENGINEERING
1:53:01PM SOLUTION, BUT THERE WILL BE LIMITED RIGHT-OF-WAY, SO FOR
1:53:07PM EXAMPLE WE ARE LOOKING AT A LEFT TURN RESTRICTION OFF OF
1:53:10PM SWANN INTO THE TRADER JOE'S BUT THAT ONLY BRINGS MORE
1:53:13PM TRAFFIC INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:53:14PM SO ONE MIGHT LEAD TO SOMETHING ELSE.
1:53:19PM BUT WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON THESE TYPE OF CHALLENGES, BUT TO
1:53:24PM SAY ONE OF THE REASONS WOULD BE MORE MULTIMODAL.
1:53:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING INTO THIS AND
1:53:34PM LOOKING AT POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS BECAUSE AGAIN WE HAVE BEEN
1:53:38PM RECEIVING LOTS OF E-MAILS AND COMPLAINTS, AND IT'S NOT
1:53:42PM RECENT.
1:53:42PM IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
1:53:44PM YOU DID EXPLAIN, IT WASN'T A REZONING, IT WAS -- IT DIDN'T
1:53:48PM NEED IT BECAUSE OF THE PREVIOUS USE, BUT AGAIN TRADER JOE'S
1:53:52PM IS VERY, VERY BUSY.
1:53:55PM ANYTIME THAT I HAVE GONE THERE, I GO FIRST THING IN THE
1:53:57PM MORNING, BECAUSE IT'S A NIGHTMARE, IT REALLY IS.
1:54:01PM I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT'S LIKE FOR PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.
1:54:03PM OF COURSE THEY ARE COMPLAINING.
1:54:05PM MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WHAT ABOUT EMERGENCY VEHICLES TRYING
1:54:08PM TO GET THROUGH?
1:54:09PM SOMETIMES IT'S SO BACKED UP TO DALE MABRY, YOU KNOW, YOU
1:54:11PM HAVE GOT TO GET AN AMBULANCE, A POLICE CAR, FIRE TRUCK,
1:54:15PM WHATEVER IT IS, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING INTO THIS AND
1:54:19PM LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS AND WORKING WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT WE
1:54:21PM CAN DO.
1:54:23PM IT'S A VERY, VERY POORLY POSITIONED PLACE.
1:54:26PM FOR EXAMPLE, DOWN THE STREET YOU HAVE SPROUTS, BUT SPROUTS
1:54:29PM HAS DALE MABRY ACCESS, HAS SIDE STREET ACCESS, AND I THINK
1:54:33PM IT'S CONNECTED IN THE BACK.
1:54:34PM AND THAT IS EQUALLY AS BUSY.
1:54:37PM AND IT'S A GROCERY STORE, SIMILAR SIZE.
1:54:40PM FRESH MARKET IS NOT TOO FAR AWAY, BUT THEY HAVE VARIOUS
1:54:43PM ACCESS POINTS.
1:54:44PM SO THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE -- I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO ANOTHER
1:54:49PM TRADER JOE'S, ONLY THE TAMPA ONE.
1:54:51PM I DON'T KNOW HOW OTHERS ARE.
1:54:53PM IF THEY ARE SQUEEZED INTO PLACES THEY SHOULDN'T BE.
1:54:55PM AND OF COURSE IT'S NO HELP THAT THE FRONT FACING PART OF
1:55:00PM DALE MABRY THAT'S ADJACENT AT TRADER JOE'S IS A SEPARATE
1:55:03PM BUSINESS WITH NO ACCESS POINTS.
1:55:04PM SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY CAN ASK FDOT FOR ANOTHER ACCESS POINT.
1:55:08PM SO AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LOOKING INTO POSSIBLE
1:55:11PM SOLUTIONS.
1:55:11PM I KNOW PEOPLE ARE WATCHING.
1:55:13PM I KNOW THERE WAS A RECENT NEWS STORY ABOUT IT.
1:55:16PM AND WE GO FROM THERE.
1:55:17PM WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME RELIEF BECAUSE HOMEOWNERS ARE
1:55:21PM VERY, VERY FRUSTRATED.
1:55:22PM THANK YOU.
1:55:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
1:55:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO
1:55:31PM SAID. THEY UP IN WHEN THEY TOOK OVER THE PLACE THAT THEY
1:55:33PM HAD THAT PARKING SPOT.
1:55:36PM AND I WOULD IMAGINE THEY KNEW WHAT THEY DO IN OTHER TRADER
1:55:40PM JOE'S AS FAR AS PEOPLE COMING THERE NOW.
1:55:42PM SO WHEN YOU GO BY THERE, YOU CAN'T MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN IF
1:55:47PM YOU ARE HEADING SOUTH, AND YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN
1:55:50PM IF YOU ARE HEADING NORTH, CAN'T GET IN AT CERTAIN HOURS OF
1:55:53PM THE DAY.
1:55:53PM AND IT BACKS UP ALL THE WAY TO, WHAT IS IT, CLARK, UP AND
1:55:58PM DOWN?
1:55:59PM AND ONE OF THE AREAS.
1:56:00PM AND I THINK THE BURDEN IS ON THEM, NOT ON US.
1:56:04PM THEY ARE THE ONES THAT KNEW, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CREATED
1:56:06PM BECAUSE THEY HAD THE ZONING ALREADY FOR IT.
1:56:08PM SO IF ANYBODY, IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT THERE, AND MORE THAN
1:56:13PM LIKELY THERE WILL BE AN ACCIDENT, I HOPE NOT, BUT THEY OUGHT
1:56:16PM TO LOOK AT THEMSELVES FOR THE LIABILITY THAT THEY ARE
1:56:18PM CREATING ON THEIR OWN BUSINESS.
1:56:20PM IT'S A GREAT OUTFIT, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL STORE, THE PRODUCTS
1:56:25PM ARE VERY GOOD, EVERYTHING IS FINE.
1:56:28PM BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE PARKING THAT YOU NEED FOR THE
1:56:32PM ATTENDANCE OF PEOPLE THAT COME IN.
1:56:35PM FOR THEIR OWN SUCCESS, IT'S UP TO THEM.
1:56:42PM THIS COUNCIL HAD NOTHING -- ANYTHING TO DO AT ALL WITH THE
1:56:46PM REZONING AT TRADER JOE'S.
1:56:49PM IT WAS ALREADY THERE IN PLACE.
1:56:50PM THEY TOOK IT AND THEY KNEW WHAT THEY HAD, AND THEY NEW HOW
1:56:53PM MUCH TRAFFIC, IF NOT THEY WOULDN'T OPEN ONE.
1:56:57PM SO THEY ARE A WONDERFUL STORE.
1:56:59PM THEY HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS.
1:57:00PM BUT THEY ARE CREATING A PROBLEM FOR THEMSELVES, FOR OUR
1:57:03PM CITIZENS.
1:57:04PM THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN.
1:57:05PM AND SOONER OR LATER, SOMETHING, I HOPE DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT
1:57:10PM THEY ARE THE ONES.
1:57:11PM THIS CITY COUNCIL OR THIS CITY DID NOT APPROVE THAT.
1:57:14PM IT WAS ON THEIR OWN WITH WHAT THEY THOUGHT WAS NECESSARY
1:57:17PM FROM THEM TO IN BUSINESS.
1:57:18PM THAT'S IT.
1:57:19PM THANK YOU.
1:57:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN I HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM LEGAL?
1:57:25PM MAYBE ANSWER A QUESTION?
1:57:27PM THAT I MAY HAVE?
1:57:31PM I AM LOOKING FOR -- IF THIS IS A PROBLEM BY THE BUSINESS AND
1:57:35PM IT'S INTERFERING WITH OUR TRAFFIC PATTERN, IS THERE ANYTHING
1:57:38PM THAT WE CAN DO TO HAVE THEM PLACE A TPD OFFICER OUT THERE TO
1:57:41PM DIRECT TRAFFIC SO THAT THERE IS NOT A BACKUP IN CASE OF
1:57:47PM EITHER EMERGENCY OR PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GET THROUGH OR KEEP
1:57:49PM THE BACKUP GOING ALL THE WAY TO CLARK OR UP DALE MABRY?
1:57:53PM >>VIK BHIDE: COUNCILMAN, WHILE WE WAIT -- CHAIR, WHILE WE
1:58:01PM WAIT FOR LEGAL, IN OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH TRADER JOE'S, THEY
1:58:07PM DO HAVE STAFF POSITIONED AT CERTAIN TIMES BUT NOT ALL THE
1:58:11PM TIME TO MANAGE TRAFFIC AND TO DIRECT TRAFFIC.
1:58:14PM I THINK THE REAL CHALLENGE IS DEMAND VERSUS SUPPLY OF
1:58:21PM AVAILABLE PARKING.
1:58:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, VIK, FOR THAT.
1:58:24PM BUT IN THE TIMES THAT I HAVE DRIVEN BY HERE, WHEN IT IS
1:58:27PM BACKED UP, IT'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY TRYING TO MAKE A TURN INTO
1:58:31PM THEIR PARKING LOT, WHETHER IT IS BLOCKING THE TRAFFIC THAT'S
1:58:35PM EASTBOUND, BLOCKING THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING WESTBOUND, OR
1:58:38PM EVEN COMING SOUTHBOUND ON DALE MABRY.
1:58:41PM IN MY OPINION, IF THERE WAS AN OFFICER SITTING THERE SAYING,
1:58:45PM NO, THE LOT IS FULL, GO AROUND THE BLOCK, COME AROUND AND
1:58:49PM COME BACK IN, THAT WOULD STOP THE BLOCKAGE.
1:58:51PM THAT IS JUST A QUESTION I AM ASKING FOR YOU AND FOR LEGAL IF
1:58:54PM WE CAN GO TO THE STORE AND SAY, THIS MAY HELP ALLEVIATE OUR
1:58:58PM TRAFFIC PROBLEM.
1:58:59PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
1:59:03PM THAT IS NOT A QUESTION THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT FOR PURPOSES
1:59:06PM OF THIS REPORT TODAY, BUT WE CERTAINLY CAN LOOK INTO THAT
1:59:09PM AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH A FOLLOW-UP.
1:59:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU MIND?
1:59:14PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: NOT AT ALL.
1:59:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SECOND.
1:59:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SAY TWO WEEKS?
1:59:20PM OR EVEN SOMETHING WRITTEN.
1:59:21PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: IF WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WRITTEN I
1:59:23PM WOULD ASK FOR 30 DAYS.
1:59:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 30 DAYS, PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
1:59:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN CITRO,
1:59:30PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THE CLOSEST 30 DAYS IS GOING
1:59:33PM TO BE FEBRUARY 2nd, NOT EXACTLY 30 DAYS BUT GIVE OR
1:59:36PM TAKE.
1:59:37PM IF NOT, WE HAVE FEBRUARY 16.
1:59:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE 16th.
1:59:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN CITRO FOR THIS TO
1:59:46PM COME BACK EVEN AS A WRITTEN REPORT FOR FEBRUARY 16th.
1:59:51PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:59:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:59:53PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:59:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
1:59:55PM AND IF I COULD, MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THIS
1:59:59PM SEEM LIKE WE ARE FORCING OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, BUT IF
2:00:04PM WE CAN PERSUADE, GIVE THEM A GENTLE PERSUASION, OR IF WE
2:00:08PM HAVE ANY TYPE OF AUTHORITY TO ASK THEM TO DO IT.
2:00:11PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WE'LL LOOK INTO ALL OF THOSE.
2:00:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:00:16PM MR. BHIDE, THANK YOU.
2:00:17PM ANYTHING FURTHER ON 17?
2:00:18PM THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE.
2:00:19PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
2:00:21PM >> NOW WE WILL GO ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS.
2:00:25PM DEMAND VIERA, PUBLIC SAFETY.
2:00:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE ITEMS 18 THROUGH 21.
2:00:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
2:00:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
2:00:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:00:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:00:38PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, PARKS AND RECREATION.
2:00:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: 20 THROUGH 25.
2:00:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY DEMAND MANISCALCO.
2:00:44PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:00:47PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, PUBLIC WORKS.
2:00:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 26 THROUGH 41.
2:00:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
2:00:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:00:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:00:58PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAVE FINANCE.
2:00:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 42 THROUGH 46.
2:01:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:01:05PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:01:08PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUILDING AND ZONING.
2:01:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: [OFF MICROPHONE] 47 THROUGH 65 --
2:01:19PM >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
2:01:23PM MANISCALCO.
2:01:23PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:01:25PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, TRANSACTION.
2:01:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 66 THROUGH
2:01:29PM 72.
2:01:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
2:01:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:01:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:01:38PM THANK YOU.
2:01:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SET
2:01:40PM THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR ITEMS 73 TO 76.
2:01:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
2:01:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY ARE LISTED AS 9:30 OR 1:30.
2:02:04PM BUT IT'S CLEAR IN THE AGENDA.
2:02:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:02:08PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:02:10PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:02:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS
2:02:14PM STARTING WITH 77 ALL THE WAY THROUGH UNTIL THIS INCLUDES THE
2:02:19PM 10:30 HEARINGS, ALL THE WAY THROUGH 96.
2:02:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IN THAT CASE, I KNOW THAT THE FIRST SET IS
2:02:26PM NONQUASI-JUDICIAL, BUT IF WE CAN JUST GET ANYBODY THAT IS IN
2:02:30PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN IF YOU ARE
2:02:33PM GOING TO BE GIVING ANY TYPE OF TESTIMONY.
2:02:37PM OR COMMENT ON ANY OF THE FUTURE CASES THAT WE HAVE.
2:02:39PM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
2:02:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:02:53PM LET ME GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 77, FILE E-20-228 CHAPTER 2.
2:03:03PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ITEM NUMBER 77 IS THE SECOND READING
2:03:05PM ON YOUR COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT ORDINANCE.
2:03:08PM YOU PREVIOUSLY HAD ITEMS 53 AND 54 THAT WERE JUST APPROVED
2:03:12PM ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA WHICH WERE THE TWO RELATED
2:03:15PM RESOLUTIONS THAT MENTIONED AT THE FIRST READING, THAT THE
2:03:18PM FIRST ONE ESTABLISHED THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT ADVISORY
2:03:21PM COUNCIL, AND THE SECOND APPROVED FOR THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT
2:03:25PM INFORMATION SHEET THAT WILL BE A PART OF THIS PROCESS.
2:03:28PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
2:03:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
2:03:37PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE
2:03:38PM TO GIVE COMMENTS TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 77?
2:03:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:03:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
2:03:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
2:03:49PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:03:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:03:53PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:03:54PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING AGENDA ITEM 77?
2:03:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER E-2022-8, ORDINANCE BEING
2:04:04PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF
2:04:07PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA RELATING TO COMMUNITY BENEFIT
2:04:11PM PROGRAM MAKING REVISIONS TO TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER
2:04:15PM 2 ADMINISTRATION CREATING ARTICLE XI, SECTION 2-850 THROUGH
2:04:20PM SECTION 2-856, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
2:04:25PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:04:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:04:29PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:04:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:04:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:04:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:04:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:04:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:04:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:04:39PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
2:04:41PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:04:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:04:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME AGAIN GIVE ANOTHER SHOUTOUT TO MR.
2:04:51PM DRUMGO.
2:04:51PM HE TOOK OVER THIS PROJECT AND GOT IT IN RECORD TIME BECAUSE
2:04:54PM OF THE DELAY ON IT.
2:04:55PM I WANT TO THANK HIM.
2:05:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 78.
2:05:05PM FILE TP/CPA 22-24.
2:05:12PM >> PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF, EMILY.
2:05:14PM THIS IS TA/CPA 22-24, A MAP AMENDMENT LOCATED AT 6112 SOUTH
2:05:20PM WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, AND 4733 WEST BAY AVENUE.
2:05:24PM THE REQUEST IS TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM R-10 TO
2:05:28PM YMU 35.
2:05:30PM WHEN THIS AMENDMENT WAS APPROVED AT THE DECEMBER 8, 2022
2:05:34PM HEARING, AND IT IS TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
2:05:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:05:41PM SEEING NONE IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO
2:05:43PM SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 78?
2:05:50PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
2:05:54PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:05:55PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:05:57PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:05:57PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:05:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE TA/CPA 22-24, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR
2:06:04PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
2:06:07PM IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE
2:06:09PM ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
2:06:12PM 6112 SOUTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, AND 4733 WEST BAY AVENUE
2:06:18PM FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 R-10 TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 345, CMU-35,
2:06:23PM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT,
2:06:26PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:06:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY
2:06:31PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:06:32PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:06:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:06:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:06:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:06:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:06:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:06:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:06:40PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
2:06:42PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:06:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:06:51PM NOW WE ARE ENTERING INTO A QUASI-JUDICIAL.
2:06:59PM MY APOLOGIES.
2:07:04PM YES, YOU ARE CORRECT.
2:07:05PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 79, FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 2.
2:07:11PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CITY ATTORNEY.
2:07:16PM THIS IS SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CODE
2:07:21PM WITH REGARD TO BRINGING SETTLEMENTS OVER $100,000 TO CITY
2:07:27PM COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
2:07:29PM YOU HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THIS ON FIRST READING.
2:07:31PM THIS IS SECOND READING AND ADOPTION TODAY.
2:07:33PM BUT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
2:07:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:07:39PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:07:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR
2:07:41PM GETTING THIS DONE SO QUICKLY AND EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE ASKING
2:07:45PM FOR.
2:07:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES
2:07:48PM TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM?
2:07:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:07:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
2:07:56PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:07:58PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:07:59PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:07:59PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:08:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
2:08:02PM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
2:08:05PM FLORIDA AMENDING SECTION 2-233 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE TO
2:08:10PM REVISE THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND/OR THEIR
2:08:14PM DESIGNEE, AND THE RISK MANAGER AND/OR THEIR DESIGNEE, TO
2:08:20PM DISPOSE OF CLAIMS AND LAWSUITS AGAINST THE CITY, PROVIDING
2:08:24PM FOR SEVERABILITY, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR OTHER
2:08:27PM DOCUMENTS IN CONFLICT HEREWITH, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:08:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
2:08:32PM >>
2:08:33PM >> SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:08:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:08:38PM EXCUSE ME, ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:08:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:08:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:08:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:08:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:08:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:08:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:08:46PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
2:08:48PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:08:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, CAN I MAKE ONE STATEMENT?
2:08:53PM I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID.
2:08:56PM I WANT TO THANK CITY ATTORNEY ZELMAN AND ALL OF HER
2:08:59PM COLLEAGUES FOR DOING THIS EXACTLY THE WAY WE REQUESTED IT,
2:09:03PM AND COLLABORATING ON IT.
2:09:07PM THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT WE SAW WITHOUT MUCH FANFARE,
2:09:13PM AND MS. ZELMAN MAY DISAGREE BUT I WILL TELL YOU BASED ON THE
2:09:16PM OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS I FIND, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE
2:09:18PM DISCOVERED BY ACCIDENT, THERE WAS A MISINTERPRETATION BY A
2:09:22PM PRIOR CITY ATTORNEY, AND IT COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY CREATED A
2:09:25PM LOT OF LIABILITY FOR THE CITY, IT COULD STILL, BUT WE HAVE
2:09:28PM NOW PASSED A LOOPHOLE THAT WAS PUT IN BY A TWO PARAGRAPH
2:09:33PM MISINTERPRETATION, AND I DON'T THINK THAT TWO PARAGRAPH
2:09:35PM MISINTERPRETATION WAS BROUGHT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AT THE
2:09:38PM TIME, AND SO FOR ALL THE DISCUSSION ABOUT CITY COUNCIL
2:09:40PM TAKING AWAY THE POWERS OF THE MAYOR, THERE ARE SO MANY
2:09:48PM INSTANCES WHERE POWERS OF CITY COUNCIL BY CHARTER HAVE BEEN
2:09:50PM TAKEN AWAY BY CITY ATTORNEYS OR PRIOR MAYORS AND OTHERS, AND
2:09:55PM THIS IS RESTORING WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS, AND DELEGATING THAT
2:10:01PM AUTHORITY.
2:10:01PM BUT IT'S A SHAME THAT SOMEHOW THAT WENT ON FOR FOUR YEARS.
2:10:05PM AND IT'S NOT MS. ZELMAN'S FAULT.
2:10:07PM SHE'S FIXING .
2:10:08PM BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ASK QUESTIONS.
2:10:10PM IT'S NOT ABOUT TAKING AWAY POWERS FROM THE MAYOR, IT'S ABOUT
2:10:13PM MAKING SURE WE KEEP THE POWERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
2:10:16PM THIS WAS A HUGE MISTAKE THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED.
2:10:18PM THANK YOU.
2:10:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 85.
2:10:24PM FILE REZ 22-33.
2:10:33PM FOR THE NEXT FOUR AGENDA ITEMS, I WAS ABSENT AT THE TIME OF
2:10:34PM THE FIRST VOTING. I HAVE REVIEWED THE TAPES AND I AM
2:10:38PM CONFIDENT THAT I CAN MAKE A DECISION WITHOUT BIAS.
2:10:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THESE QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS,
2:10:48PM MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN, TWO THINGS.
2:10:49PM NUMBER ONE IS IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO IS NOT PREPARED OR IF
2:10:54PM YOU WERE ABSENT AND ARE PREPARED YOURSELF TO VOTE, PLEASE
2:11:01PM STATE THAT.
2:11:02PM THE OTHER THING, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST BECAUSE THESE ARE
2:11:04PM QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS, I WOULD LIKE THAT COUNCIL BE ABLE TO
2:11:07PM RECEIVE AND FILE ALL THE EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, IF ANY HAS
2:11:12PM BEEN RECEIVED SINCE FIRST READING.
2:11:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, MOTION
2:11:19PM BY VIERA.
2:11:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IF THERE'S ANY EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS
2:11:24PM PLEASE DISCLOSE AT THE START OF THE HEARING IF THERE ARE
2:11:26PM ANY.
2:11:27PM THANK YOU.
2:11:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HUSSEIN.
2:11:31PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:11:34PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 85, CASE REZ 22-33, BEING PRESENTED FOR
2:11:40PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT A LOCATION 3812 PINEWOOD
2:11:44PM STREET.
2:11:45PM PROPOSED REZONING FROM IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED
2:11:49PM DEVELOPMENT, HOTEL.
2:11:52PM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
2:11:54PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:11:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:12:06PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO MAKE A
2:12:09PM COMMENT TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 85?
2:12:13PM WE HAVE THE APPLICANTS THAT ARE ONLINE.
2:12:15PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING FURTHER?
2:12:22PM >>TRUETT GARDNER: FIRST OF ALL, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU.
2:12:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. GARDNER, I NEED ALL OF YOU TO RAISE
2:12:30PM YOUR HANDS TO BE SWORN IN.
2:12:31PM THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HASN'T
2:12:33PM BEEN SWORN IN?
2:12:35PM YES, MA'AM, I SAW YOU WALK IN.
2:12:36PM AND THIS GENTLEMAN THAT JUST WALKED IN.
2:12:37PM YOU WERE HERE EARLIER, SIR.
2:12:39PM PLEASE STAND UP SO YOU CAN ALL BE SWORN IN.
2:12:42PM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
2:12:47PM >> I DO.
2:12:48PM >> I DO.
2:12:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU GUYS DIDN'T HAVE TO STAND UP.
2:12:55PM >>TRUETT GARDNER: WANTED TO MAKE IT OFFICIAL.
2:12:56PM [ LAUGHTER ]
2:12:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE PROCEED.
2:13:03PM >>TRUETT GARDNER: 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
2:13:05PM HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EACH OF YOU.
2:13:06PM AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS.
2:13:09PM WE WERE UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED ON DECEMBER 1st, AND AS
2:13:13PM ZAIN SAID WE RESUBMITTED SITE PLANS.
2:13:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:13:19PM AGAIN, IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
2:13:22PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 85?
2:13:24PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE ONLINE?
2:13:31PM MR. WILSON, ARE YOU THERE?
2:13:34PM >> I AM HERE.
2:13:35PM I WAS SIMPLY HERE TO OBSERVE.
2:13:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU WITH THE APPLICANT OR ARE YOU --
2:13:43PM >> WITH THE APPLICANT.
2:13:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
2:13:45PM I CANNOT SEE YOU.
2:13:47PM IS YOUR CAMERA ON?
2:13:48PM >> I BELIEVE IT IS NOW.
2:13:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: STILL CANNOT SEE YOU.
2:13:58PM THERE YOU ARE.
2:14:00PM ARE YOU GOING TO BE GIVING TESTIMONY?
2:14:02PM >> NO, SIR, I AM NOT.
2:14:04PM I AM SIMPLY HERE WITH THE ARCHITECTS.
2:14:05PM I WAS SIMPLY HERE IF NEEDED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
2:14:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:14:09PM IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
2:14:11PM BECAUSE IF THERE IS, HE HAS TO BE SWORN IN.
2:14:15PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:14:15PM AGAIN, IS THERE ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
2:14:19PM AGENDA 85?
2:14:20PM SEEING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
2:14:23PM MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:14:26PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:14:28PM THANK YOU.
2:14:30PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:14:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:14:32PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
2:14:34PM REZ 22-33, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
2:14:37PM VICINITY OF 3812 PINEWOOD STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
2:14:40PM FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
2:14:42PM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL TO PD
2:14:45PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, HOTEL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:14:46PM >> SECOND.
2:14:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
2:14:50PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:14:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:14:54PM ROLL CALL.
2:14:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:14:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:14:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:14:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:15:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:15:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:15:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:15:03PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:15:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:15:06PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 86.
2:15:10PM FILE REZ 22-80.
2:15:12PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:15:15PM THIS IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AT THE
2:15:18PM LOCATION 2213 NORTH 65th STREET.
2:15:22PM PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO IG
2:15:26PM INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
2:15:27PM THIS BEING EUCLIDEAN, NO NEW SITE PLAN WAS REQUIRED.
2:15:31PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
2:15:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PETITIONER?
2:15:41PM NO REBUTTAL, NO NOTHING?
2:15:43PM >> NO.
2:15:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
2:15:48PM NUMBER 86?
2:15:49PM DO YOU HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
2:15:52PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:15:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:15:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:15:58PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:15:58PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:15:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
2:16:03PM MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
2:16:05PM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE JESS GENERAL
2:16:08PM VICINITY OF 2213 NORTH 65th STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
2:16:11PM FLORIDA MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
2:16:15PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO
2:16:17PM IG INDUSTRIAL GENERAL PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:16:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
2:16:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED
2:16:27PM BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:16:29PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:16:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:16:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:16:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:16:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:16:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:16:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:16:36PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:16:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:16:39PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 87, FILE REZ 22-96.
2:16:48PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:16:52PM THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT A
2:16:55PM LOSE 18202 EAST MEADOWS ROAD.
2:17:00PM THIS IS PROPOSED REZONING FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD,
2:17:04PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, VEHICLE REPAIR, MINOR, AND CAR WASH.
2:17:08PM SITE PLANS WERE TURNED IN TO CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
2:17:11PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF NEEDED.
2:17:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:17:21PM MR. BRICKLEMYER.
2:17:23PM YOU HAVEN'T BEEN SWORN IN YET, HAVE YOU?
2:17:27PM LET ME SWEAR YOU IN.
2:17:28PM >>THE CLERK: (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
2:17:37PM >> I DO.
2:17:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD.
2:17:41PM >> GREG BRICKLEMYER, FOR THE APPLICANT.
2:17:45PM I AM JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
2:17:47PM WE SUBMITTED A PACKAGE AND I APPRECIATE THEIR ADVICE.
2:17:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
2:17:54PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO
2:17:56PM BE SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 87?
2:18:03PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
2:18:06PM MANISCALCO.
2:18:07PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:18:08PM THANK YOU.
2:18:09PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:18:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE REZ 22-96,
2:18:16PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
2:18:18PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2:18:20PM 18202 EAST MEADOWS ROAD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
2:18:23PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
2:18:25PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO PD,
2:18:28PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, VEHICLE REPAIR MINOR/CAR WASH PROVIDING
2:18:32PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:18:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:18:35PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:18:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:18:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:18:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:18:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:18:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:18:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:18:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:18:46PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:18:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA 88, FILE REZ 22-117.
2:18:53PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:18:57PM THIS IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT
2:18:59PM THE LOCATION 825 WEST LINEBAUGH AVENUE AND FOLIO NUMBER
2:19:04PM 95,031.0010 PROPOSED REZONING FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO
2:19:11PM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL
2:19:15PM MULTIFAMILY.
2:19:17PM SITE PLANS WERE TURNED IN TO CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
2:19:19PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:19:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:19:24PM PETITIONERS.
2:19:27PM >>TRUETT GARDNER: 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE, SIMILAR TO ITEM
2:19:29PM 85, THIS WAS ALSO HEARD ON DECEMBER 1st, UNANIMOUSLY
2:19:32PM APPROVED, AND SECOND PLAN SITE PLAN REVISIONS HAVE BEEN
2:19:37PM MADE.
2:19:38PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
2:19:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:19:41PM SEEING NONE IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THOUGH HO WISHES
2:19:43PM TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM 88?
2:19:45PM SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
2:19:49PM MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
2:19:52PM MANISCALCO.
2:19:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:19:54PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:19:54PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:19:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 88, FILE REZ 22-117, ORDINANCE BEING
2:20:01PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
2:20:03PM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 825 WEST
2:20:06PM LINEBAUGH AVENUE FOLIO NUMBER 95031.0010 IN THE CITY OF
2:20:12PM TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
2:20:15PM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
2:20:18PM TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE AND RESIDENTIAL
2:20:21PM MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:20:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
2:20:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED
2:20:27PM BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:20:28PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:20:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:20:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:20:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:20:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:20:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:20:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:20:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:20:38PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:20:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
2:20:41PM AGENDA ITEM.
2:20:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA NUMBER 89.
2:20:46PM REZ 22-99.
2:20:49PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THIS IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AT A
2:20:52PM LOCATION 4621 EAST LAKE AVENUE, PROPOSED REZONING FROM RM-16
2:20:58PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO RM-24 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
2:21:04PM THIS BEING EUCLIDEAN, NO SITE PLAN WAS REQUIRED.
2:21:07PM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:21:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
2:21:11PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
2:21:17PM DO WE HAVE A PETITIONER?
2:21:20PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 89, FILE REZ 22-99.
2:21:25PM ONE LAST TIME.
2:21:31PM OKAY.
2:21:32PM IS THERE ANYONE HERE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS TO
2:21:35PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 89?
2:21:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:21:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:21:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:21:43PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:21:44PM THANK YOU.
2:21:45PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU VOTED NO.
2:21:48PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:21:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE FILE REZ 22-99, ORDINANCE BEING
2:21:54PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
2:21:56PM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4621 EAST LAKE
2:22:00PM AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
2:22:03PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
2:22:07PM RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO RM-24 RESIDENTIAL
2:22:12PM MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:22:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:22:21PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:22:22PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, I SAID NO BEFORE.
2:22:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:22:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:22:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:22:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:22:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:22:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:22:34PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH GUDES VOTING NO.
2:22:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 90.
2:22:40PM REZ 22-101.
2:22:45PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:22:46PM THIS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
2:22:49PM AT THE LOCATION 4523 WEST CHESTNUT STREET.
2:22:53PM PROPOSED REZONING FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
2:22:57PM DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
2:23:00PM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
2:23:02PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:23:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:23:06PM THANK YOU.
2:23:07PM PETITIONER?
2:23:09PM DO WE HAVE A PETITIONER HERE?
2:23:13PM FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 90.
2:23:15PM ANYONE ONLINE?
2:23:17PM IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TO AGENDA
2:23:19PM ITEM NUMBER 90, FILE REZ 22-101?
2:23:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:23:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY DEMAND MANISCALCO,
2:23:30PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:23:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:23:33PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:23:34PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:23:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE REZ THE 2-101, ORDINANCE BEING
2:23:43PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
2:23:46PM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4523 WEST
2:23:49PM CHESTNUT STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
2:23:51PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
2:23:54PM CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD, PLANNED
2:23:56PM DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, PROVIDING AN
2:23:58PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:23:58PM >> SECOND.
2:23:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:24:01PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:24:03PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:24:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:24:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:24:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:24:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:24:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:24:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:24:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:24:11PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:24:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:24:14PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 91, FILE REZ 22-115.
2:24:18PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:24:22PM THIS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT THE
2:24:25PM LOCATIONS 6112 SOUTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD AND 4733 WEST BAY
2:24:31PM AVENUE.
2:24:34PM PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND
2:24:37PM CN COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
2:24:41PM RESTAURANT, DRIVE-IN AND RETAIL SALES SHOPPERS GOODS.
2:24:46PM SITE PLANS WERE TURNED INTO THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
2:24:48PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:24:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
2:24:53PM >> ALEX SCHULER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE FOR THE RECORD.
2:25:00PM THIS WAS APPROVED ON DECEMBER 8th AND WE MADE ALL THE
2:25:03PM SITE PLAN REVISIONS AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
2:25:06PM HAVE.
2:25:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:25:07PM IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
2:25:10PM ITEM NUMBER 91?
2:25:12PM ANYONE ONLINE?
2:25:15PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
2:25:17PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:25:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:25:19PM THANK YOU.
2:25:20PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:25:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
2:25:23PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORPHANS REZONING PROPERTY IN
2:25:26PM THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 6112 SOUTH WESTSHORE BOULEVARD AND
2:25:31PM 4733 WEST BAY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
2:25:34PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
2:25:36PM CLASSIFICATION RS 630 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND CN
2:25:39PM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESTAURANT
2:25:42PM DRIVE IN AND RETAIL SHOPPERS GOODS, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
2:25:45PM DATE.
2:25:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:25:47PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:25:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES MAP.
2:25:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:25:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:25:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:25:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:25:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:25:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:25:55PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:25:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:26:02PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 29, FILE E-2022-8 CHAPTER 27, HPC
2:26:12PM 2021-04.
2:26:14PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
2:26:20PM MR. CHAIR, DID YOU MEAN ITEM NUMBER 92?
2:26:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DID I MEAN THAT?
2:26:23PM YES, I MORE THAN LIKELY DID.
2:26:25PM LET ME REPHRASE THIS THEN.
2:26:26PM NEXT UP IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 92, FILE NUMBER E-20228
2:26:33PM CHAPTER 27 HPC 2021-04.
2:26:37PM THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING ME.
2:26:39PM DYSLEXIA TAKING OVER AGAIN.
2:26:41PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
2:26:44PM ITEM NUMBER 92 IS REGARDING THE E-HPC 2021-04 FOR SECOND
2:26:53PM READING AND ADOPTION FOR CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER REGARDING
2:26:57PM THE EXPANSION OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC
2:27:00PM DISTRICT AS A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
2:27:03PM ON DECEMBER 8, 2022 CITY COUNCIL MODIFIED THE HISTORIC
2:27:06PM PRESERVATION COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVED ON
2:27:11PM FIRST READING CONSIDERATION THE APPLICANT'S AMENDED
2:27:14PM APPLICATION TO REDUCE THE PROPOSED BOUNDARIES OF THE HYDE
2:27:17PM PARK HISTORIC DISTRICTS TO REMOVE THE AREA NORTH OF PLATT
2:27:22PM STREET AND SOUTH OF THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY.
2:27:25PM I PREPARED A MEMORANDUM AND THE ATTACHMENTS, AND I AM HERE
2:27:31PM TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
2:27:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST FOR MY KNOWLEDGE, THIS WAS AGAIN THE
2:27:42PM SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE TO THE AGREED-UPON BARRIERS THAT WERE
2:27:46PM DISCUSSED AT THE TIME OF THE FIRST HEARING.
2:27:49PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CORRECT.
2:27:52PM BASED UPON CITY COUNCIL'S MOTION, THE LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS
2:27:55PM CHANGED, AND THE CHANGED LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS ATTACHED WHICH
2:28:00PM MAKES THIS A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
2:28:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:28:08PM PETITIONER OR -- PETITIONER?
2:28:12PM EVERYBODY IS DOING MUSICAL CHAIRS.
2:28:14PM >> PAMELA JO HATLEY.
2:28:18PM I REPRESENT THE PETITIONERS IN THIS CASE.
2:28:19PM THE HISTORIC HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE HYDE
2:28:22PM PARK SPAN USUAL TOWN CREEK CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
2:28:27PM THEY DID REQUEST AN EXPANSION OF THE HYDE PARK HISTORIC
2:28:29PM DISTRICT, AND THE RECORD SHOWS OF COURSE THAT THE EXPANDED
2:28:35PM DISTRICT BOUNDARIES DO MEET OR EXCEED THE CITY'S CRITERIA
2:28:39PM FOR DESIGNATION AS A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
2:28:42PM I AM HERE, MY CLIENTS ARE HERE, AND FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU
2:28:45PM MIGHT HAVE OF US.
2:28:47PM OTHERWISE, WE ASK COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE EXPANDED BOUNDARIES
2:28:52PM ON SECOND READING.
2:28:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:28:57PM I ALREADY HAD MY QUESTION ANSWERED.
2:28:59PM IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
2:29:01PM ITEM NUMBER 92?
2:29:03PM >> TOBIN GREEN, RESIDENT OF THE SPANISH TOWN CREEK AND
2:29:17PM ACTIVE COMMITTEE MET FOR THE TOWN CREEK CIVIC ASSOCIATION,
2:29:21PM ALSO THE ARCHITECTURAL COMMUNITY DESIGN WITH ARCHITECTURE
2:29:25PM AND AWARD WINNING CALLED ADD MISS.
2:29:29PM SOMEONE PLANTED MY FLAG HERE IN HYDE PARK, AND AFFECTED BY
2:29:33PM THIS EXPANSION.
2:29:34PM WHILE THIS IT WAS A AGREEMENT OF MINE TO BUILD A HOME HERE
2:29:40PM SO WHEN I MADE THE DREAM A REALITY I PLANTED MY FLAG WITH
2:29:42PM THE INTENTION OF DOING GOOD IN THIS PART OF THE COMMUNITY, A
2:29:45PM COMMUNITY THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN DISCARDED BY THE CITY AND
2:29:47PM A COMMUNITY THAT AT THAT TIME WAS NOT RESTRICTED BY THE
2:29:50PM HISTORIC GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY THE ARC.
2:29:53PM THIS ENABLED ME TO EXPLORE MY OWN STYLE OF PROGRESSIVE URBAN
2:29:56PM ARCHITECTURE IN WAYS THAT WOULD HAVE OTHERWISE BEEN SHUNNED
2:30:00PM BY THE CURRENT STANDARDS OF THE ARC.
2:30:01PM I WANT TO STEP BACK AND SAY I BELIEVE BOTH HISTORIC
2:30:06PM PRESERVATION TO PROTECT OUR OLD STRUCTURES, PROTECT
2:30:12PM DEVELOPERS WITH NO REGARD FOR LINES.
2:30:18PM WHAT WE SHOULD BE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT AND THINK ABOUT IS
2:30:20PM HOW DO WE WANT TO BUILD FOR THE FUTURE?
2:30:23PM WHY SHOULD BUILDINGS BE DEEMED HISTORICALLY RELEVANT JUST
2:30:27PM BECAUSE THEY WERE BUILT IN A CERTAIN TIME FRAME?
2:30:30PM IT'S SHORT SIGHTED AND CURRENT GUIDELINES NEED TO BE
2:30:32PM UPDATED.
2:30:33PM MR. CITRO SAID SOMETHING AT THE END OF THE LAST COUNCIL
2:30:35PM MEETING THAT MEANT A LOT TO ME.
2:30:36PM I AM PARAPHRASING BUT IT WAG ALL BUILDING NEW STRUCTURES
2:30:41PM BASED ON OLD HISTORIC DESIGN STANDARDS HOW IS THE NEXT
2:30:45PM GENERATION SUPPOSED TO BUILD MEANINGFUL THINGS AND CREATE A
2:30:48PM HISTORY OF THEIR OWN?
2:30:49PM I STAND BEHIND THAT AND APPRECIATE THAT COMMENT.
2:30:51PM SO IT TAKES ME BACK TO MY OWN HOME STYLE.
2:30:54PM THE YEAR I BUILT MY HOUSE, IT WON MAJOR AWARD IN THE TAMPA
2:30:57PM BAY PARADE OF HOMES BY THE TAMPA BUILDERS ASSOCIATION, BEST
2:31:01PM IN CLASS IN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, CURB APPEAL, BOAST IN
2:31:06PM CLASS FOR PRICE CATEGORY AND BEST PROJECT OF THE YEAR THAT
2:31:09PM YEAR.
2:31:09PM SO BASED ON ALL THAT INFO I HAVE TO ASK HOW CAN WE AS A
2:31:13PM COMMUNITY SIT HERE AND STAND BY THE CURRENT GUIDELINES OF
2:31:15PM THE ARC THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY DISALLOW THIS TYPE OF DESIGN.
2:31:19PM IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
2:31:20PM THE IDEALOGIES ARE STRONG, ON WHICH TO BUILD UPON, BUT WE
2:31:25PM NEED TO READDRESS THE DESIGN STANDARD AND EMBRACE NEW AND
2:31:28PM THOUGHTFUL MEANINGFUL DESIGN PROJECTS.
2:31:29PM LET'S PUT OUR ARMS AROUND HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND PUT OUR
2:31:32PM ARMS AROUND THE ARC, RETURN THE SAME AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR
2:31:36PM PROGRESS AS THEY DO FOR HISTORY.
2:31:38PM LET'S BUILD A FUTURE WITH OLD WORLD GREAT AND NEW
2:31:41PM GENERATIONAL FORTITUDE.
2:31:45PM I SAY THAT WE OPEN UP OUR MIND AND START A NEW DISCUSSION
2:31:48PM ABOUT HISTORIC APPROPRIATION, HISTORIC APPROPRIATION.
2:31:52PM SO ON THAT NOTE, I DON'T HAVE TIME TO SAY THE REST THINGS,
2:31:56PM BUT MY NAME IS TOBIN GREEN.
2:31:59PM YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR MORE FROM ME.
2:32:02PM I AM WORKING WITH USF AND THE CITY TO STUDY THIS AND SEE WOO
2:32:06PM WE CAN MAKE THAT LOOK LIKE FOR THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
2:32:09PM THANK YOU.
2:32:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. GREEN, I'M SORRY, ANY COMMENTS OR
2:32:13PM QUESTIONS?
2:32:14PM MR. GREEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:32:15PM AND I STILL STAND BEHIND WHAT I SAY.
2:32:17PM YOU PARAPHRASED IT ALMOST CORRECTLY BUT IT WAS, IF WE KEEP
2:32:22PM PRESERVING AND PRESERVING AND PRESERVING, HOW IS THE NEXT
2:32:26PM GENERATION GOING TO CREATE HISTORY?
2:32:29PM I STILL STAND BEHIND THAT.
2:32:31PM I HAVE LIVED WITHIN SOUTH TAMPA, HYDE PARK DISTRICT, FOR
2:32:35PM MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.
2:32:37PM THERE ARE BUILDINGS THERE THAT NEED TO BE PRESERVED.
2:32:40PM AND THE FRINGES IS WHERE I AM HOPING THAT YOU COME IN, AND
2:32:44PM YOUR DESIGNS AND YOUR THOUGHTS COME IN.
2:32:46PM >> THANK YOU.
2:32:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:32:49PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:32:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU
2:32:53PM ARE DOING.
2:32:54PM FOR DISCLOSURE, I DON'T NEED TO DISCLOSE THIS, IT'S
2:32:57PM EX PARTE, BUT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO I WENT TO A
2:33:00PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AT HIS HOUSE HIS HOUSE IS
2:33:02PM BEAUTIFUL, STATE-OF-THE-ART, WELL DESIGNED, STAR WARS AND
2:33:06PM HAS THAT ALL OVER HIS HOUSE.
2:33:07PM BUT I WON'T BE BIASED IN MY VOTE BECAUSE OF THAT.
2:33:10PM BUT I AM HAPPY TO SIT DOWN AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT
2:33:13PM ARCHITECTURAL STYLES, JUST A BLOCK OR TWO AWAY, THERE'S A
2:33:16PM WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF WILT IN THE 90s WHERE THEY TORE DOWN
2:33:19PM HISTORIC HOMES, AND THAT ISN'T THE KIND OF CALLING YOU HAVE.
2:33:24PM AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF WELL EDUCATED PEOPLE BEHIND YOU
2:33:26PM THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS.
2:33:27PM SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PUT NEW
2:33:30PM ARCHITECTURE IN PLACES WHERE THE OLD BUILDINGS DON'T EXIST I
2:33:34PM AM HAPPY TO SIT AT THE TABLE AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
2:33:36PM THANK YOU.
2:33:36PM >> THANK YOU.
2:33:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO BE
2:33:41PM SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 92?
2:33:45PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
2:33:46PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:33:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. HATLEY, DO YOU WANT ANY REBUTTAL?
2:33:53PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
2:33:55PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:33:55PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:33:57PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:34:00PM YOU WERE ABSENT.
2:34:02PM DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT TO MAKE THIS MOTION?
2:34:07PM THE SUBSTITUTE, PLEASE.
2:34:08PM >> I MOVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
2:34:11PM READING, ON ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
2:34:14PM DESIGNATING THE EXPANSION OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THE HYDE PARK
2:34:17PM HISTORIC DISTRICT AS A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT REPEALING ALL
2:34:20PM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH, PROVIDING FOR
2:34:23PM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:34:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY VIERA, SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
2:34:32PM (ROLL CALL)
2:34:33PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:34:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 93, VAC 22-28.
2:34:47PM >>ROSS SAMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, VAC 22-28, FIRST
2:34:54PM READING CONSIDERATION.
2:34:57PM THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS CHRISTOPHER J. SCHAEFER II, PROPERTY
2:35:03PM ADDRESS IS 809 PENINSULA STREET, NEIGH NORTH OF PENINSULA
2:35:12PM STREET, SOUTH OF WOODLAWN AVENUE, EAST OF POPLAR AVENUE AND
2:35:16PM WEST OF MYRTLE AVENUE.
2:35:19PM THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED SEPTEMBER 14, 2022, AT THE
2:35:25PM PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ALLEY, THE PLACE TO BE
2:35:28PM VACATED.
2:35:29PM THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR APPLICATION IS ALLEY IS
2:35:32PM OVERGROWN, IT'S UNUSED, THERE'S A LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING,
2:35:35PM AND IT'S ABANDONED.
2:35:37PM THIS ALLEY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT, EXISTING ALLEY
2:35:41PM IS APPROXIMATELY 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
2:35:49PM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY HERE IS 809 WEST PENINSULA STREET,
2:35:54PM AND PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST, THE ALLEY IN YELLOW.
2:36:10PM VACATED THE ALLEY, BLOCK 10.
2:36:17PM APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, PENINSULA STREET.
2:36:25PM AN IMAGE LOOKING WEST, NORTH MYRTLE AVENUE.
2:36:29PM THE ALLEY HERE.
2:36:36PM THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM NORTH POPLAR AVENUE.
2:36:45PM STAFF HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
2:36:48PM EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE NEEDED FOR WASTEWATER AND
2:36:50PM FRONTIER, AND NATURAL RESOURCES, COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 IN
2:36:53PM REGARD TO TREE PRESERVATION AND DESIGN FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS
2:36:57PM PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN THE VACATED AREA.
2:37:00PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
2:37:03PM I AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:37:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:37:06PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
2:37:11PM IS THE PETITIONER HERE?
2:37:20PM NUMBER 93.
2:37:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF HE CAN JUST ANNOYANCE THAT HE'S HERE
2:37:24PM AND PLEASE PUT HIS NAME ON THE RECORD.
2:37:26PM >> CHRISTOPHER J.SCHAEFER, 809 WEST PENINSULA.
2:37:33PM I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS.
2:37:36PM I JUST WANT TO VACATE THE ALLEY BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE ONE
2:37:40PM OF THE SIGNS THAT I POSTED THERE'S ALREADY DUMPING OUT
2:37:43PM THERE.
2:37:43PM I HAVE WALKED THROUGH FIXING STUFF UP, SEEING KIDS LIKE
2:37:46PM YOUNG KIDS SMOKING CIGARETTES BACK THERE AND STUFF.
2:37:50PM SO I JUST THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD ADOPT IT.
2:37:52PM AND IF YOU WALK BACK THERE, SOMEONE ALREADY ADOPTED HALF OF
2:37:55PM IT.
2:37:55PM ACTUALLY, I THINK THEY ADOPTED MORE THAN HALF.
2:37:58PM THAT'S ABOUT IT.
2:37:59PM IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:38:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:38:03PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO
2:38:06PM SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 93?
2:38:10PM SEEING NONE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
2:38:13PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY
2:38:15PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:38:15PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:38:17PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:38:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO PASS, PLEASE.
2:38:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:38:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:38:28PM ITEM NUMBER 93, FILE VAC 22-28.
2:38:32PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
2:38:35PM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING,
2:38:37PM DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF
2:38:41PM PENINSULA STREET, SOUTH OF WOODLAWN AVENUE, EAST OF POPLAR
2:38:46PM AVENUE, WEST OF MYRTLE AVENUE WITHIN THE PLATT OF BUFFALO
2:38:49PM HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
2:38:51PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
2:38:57PM SECTION 2 HEREOF AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
2:39:01PM PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT OF PENALTIES, FOR VIOLATIONS,
2:39:04PM PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING
2:39:07PM CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
2:39:09PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:39:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED
2:39:13PM BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:39:18PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:39:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
2:39:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
2:39:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:39:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:39:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:39:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:39:32PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK AND CARLSON VOTING
2:39:35PM NO AND VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:39:38PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY
2:39:41PM 2nd, 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
2:39:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 94 IS REQUESTED TO BE
2:39:50PM WITHDRAWN.
2:39:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REMOVE FROM THE AGENDA.
2:39:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
2:39:56PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:39:58PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:40:00PM THANK YOU.
2:40:00PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 95.
2:40:03PM FILE VAC 22-30.
2:40:06PM >>ROSS SAMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:40:09PM FILE VAC 22-30.
2:40:13PM THIS IS A VACATING REQUEST PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING.
2:40:17PM THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS KEYLA GONZALEZ, PROPERTY ADDRESS
2:40:25PM NORTH 17th STREET, PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE
2:40:28PM THE ALLEY NORTH OF NORTH BAY STREET, SOUTH OF THE GENESEE I
2:40:32PM STREET, EAST OF 17th STREET AND WEST OF 19th STREET
2:40:35PM IN BLOCK 150 OF BONITA.
2:40:39PM THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED SEPTEMBER 18, 2022, PROPERTY ON
2:40:44PM SOUTH SIDE OF THE ALLEY REQUESTED TO BE VACATED, THE ALLEY
2:40:47PM CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT, THE EXISTING ALLEY IS
2:40:50PM APPROXIMATELY 3,500 SQUARE FEET.
2:40:58PM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN REED RED, AND THE PROPOSED
2:41:02PM VACATING REQUEST THE ALLEY IN YELLOW.
2:41:14PM PLAT DEDICATING THE ALLEY, BLOCK 10.
2:41:19PM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
2:41:31PM THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST
2:41:36PM FROM NORTH 17th STREET.
2:41:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SAMONS, WOULD YOU SAY IT STARTS JUST
2:41:43PM LEFT OF THAT TELEPHONE POLE AND TO THE RIGHT OF THE TREE?
2:41:50PM >> APPROXIMATELY.
2:41:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RIGHT WHERE YOUR FINGER IS AT, RIGHT THERE.
2:41:55PM >> IT'S APPROXIMATELY RIGHT ON THE BOUNDARY OF THIS, FROM
2:41:57PM WHAT INFORMATION I HAVE GATHERED, WHERE THIS TELEPHONE POLE
2:42:01PM IS.
2:42:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:42:02PM >>ROSS SAMONS: AND IT'S 13 FEET WIDE, THIS ALLEY IS.
2:42:10PM AND THIS IS THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY, OR WAS.
2:42:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DID YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THE NORTHERN
2:42:14PM BOUNDARY?
2:42:15PM DID YOU ALREADY SHOW THAT?
2:42:17PM >>ROSS SAMONS: THIS IS LOOKING AT IT FROM THE EAST.
2:42:21PM SO YOU ARE LOOKING EASTERLY AT THE ALLEY.
2:42:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND.
2:42:24PM >>ROSS SAMONS: SO IT'S APPROXIMATELY HERE, AND 13 FEET,
2:42:32PM APPROXIMATELY HERE.
2:42:39PM THIS IS THE ALLEY.
2:42:43PM GENERAL LOCATION OF THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST FROM 19th
2:42:45PM STREET.
2:42:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RAND IF YOU COULD JUST APPROXIMATE WHERE
2:42:51PM THE ALLEY WOULD HAVE BEEN?
2:42:53PM >>ROSS SAMONS: AGAIN IT'S 13 FEET WIDE.
2:42:57PM RIGHT IN HERE.
2:42:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I GUESS YOU ARE SEEING MY POINT.
2:43:03PM WHERE WAS THE ALLEY?
2:43:04PM >>ROSS SAMONS: CORRECT.
2:43:05PM THE STAFF HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
2:43:08PM NO EASEMENT RESERVATIONS REQUIRED.
2:43:11PM NATURAL RESOURCES MUST COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27, TREE
2:43:15PM PRESERVATION.
2:43:16PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
2:43:17PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:43:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:43:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: ARE THERE NOT CODE ENFORCEMENT FINES OR
2:43:24PM VIOLATIONS FILED?
2:43:26PM >>ROSS SAMONS: IN MOST CASES, THE VACATING REQUEST THAT I
2:43:30PM PRESENTED IN THE PAST, THERE ARE SOME, AND THERE'S NOT. IN
2:43:33PM THIS CASE THERE WAS.
2:43:35PM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT CASE.
2:43:37PM AND FROM WHAT I GATHERED, THE COMPLAINT CAME FROM THE NORTH
2:43:46PM SIDE OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY, AND THEN LATER ON, ONCE
2:43:50PM THEY BECAME AWARE THAT THEY NEED TO GET BEHIND THEIR
2:43:54PM BUILDING THAT WAS IN THE PICTURE SHOWN HERE, THEY NEEDED TO
2:44:00PM CUT SOME WEEDS HERE AND WERE UNABLE TO, BECAUSE BOTH
2:44:05PM PROPERTY OWNERS HAD ACTUALLY FENCED IN THE ALLEY WITHOUT
2:44:10PM KNOWING, PRETTY MUCH.
2:44:11PM BUT YOU WILL NOT FIND ANY OBJECTIONS, I DON'T THINK, FROM
2:44:15PM THE PUBLIC BECAUSE OF THAT REASON.
2:44:16PM THEY REALIZED WHAT THEY DID AFTER THE COMPLAINT WAS MADE AND
2:44:20PM CODE ENFORCEMENT CAME AND CITED, SO THIS IS DIRECTED BY
2:44:24PM THAT.
2:44:26PM AND THAT'S A ROUNDABOUT WAY TO PUT IT AND THAT'S IT.
2:44:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JOIN FORCES.
2:44:32PM >>ROSS SAMONS: CORRECT.
2:44:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:44:35PM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:44:38PM THANK YOU.
2:44:39PM PETITIONER?
2:44:39PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONORS, I'M KEYLA GONZALEZ.
2:44:51PM THIS IS ALREADY CLOSED OFF BECAUSE WHEN WE PURCHASED THE
2:44:53PM HOME IN NOVEMBER FROM 2021 IT WAS ALREADY CLOSED OUT I
2:44:59PM BELIEVE FOR MANY YEARS, AND WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS A
2:45:02PM PROBLEM OR A SITUATION UNTIL WE WERE FACED WITH THE NOTICE
2:45:06PM THAT WE ARE IN THE LINE, AND THAT BEING SAID, WE PROCEED TO
2:45:12PM MAKING IT RIGHT.
2:45:14PM AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY JUST TO KEEP IT THE WAY IT
2:45:19PM IS, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SEE IN THE PICTURES ON BOTH SIDES,
2:45:22PM EVERYBODY ALREADY HAS TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBOR,
2:45:29PM THE OWNER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ALLEY, SHE SAID THAT
2:45:37PM ALREADY WAS CLOSED.
2:45:39PM SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
2:45:41PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
2:45:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
2:45:45PM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
2:45:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN YOU BOUGHT THIS, IT WAS ALREADY
2:45:52PM THERE, THE HOUSE?
2:45:55PM NOVEMBER WHAT YEAR DID YOU BUY IT?
2:45:57PM >> NOVEMBER 3rd, 2021.
2:45:59PM AND IT WAS LIKE ANOTHER FENCE, AND WHEN WE -- WE FENCED IN
2:46:05PM THE INSIDE OF THE LOT.
2:46:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:46:10PM >> I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR EIGHT YEARS, ANNIVERSARY JUST
2:46:15PM PASSED.
2:46:15PM HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYBODY.
2:46:17PM WHEN WE PURCHASED THE HOME IT HAD AN EXISTING FENCE SO WE
2:46:19PM DON'T CUES IN A PROBLEM, PUT A NICER FENCE ON THE INSIDE,
2:46:22PM THINKING THAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE IT AND IT WAS A
2:46:25PM PERSONAL ISSUE WITH THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR.
2:46:27PM WE TOLD HER WE OWN ANOTHER HOUSE IN THE COMMUNITY,
2:46:32PM BARBERSHOP, SO HELPING OUT ON SOME PERSONAL ISSUES.
2:46:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I GOT A DOG RUN OUT THERE ALSO.
2:46:39PM >> SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
2:46:42PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:46:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:46:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:46:45PM IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
2:46:48PM ITEM NUMBER 96?
2:46:55PM WAITING PATIENTLY.
2:46:56PM >> HELLO.
2:46:58PM SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU, HAPPY NEW YEARS TO YOU, HOPE YOU HAVE A
2:47:03PM SUCCESSFUL YEAR.
2:47:05PM I AM HERE BECAUSE, AS I SAID, THE ALLEY HAD BEEN CLOSED, AND
2:47:15PM FOR MANY YEARS, EVEN WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOME, IT WAS ALREADY
2:47:20PM CLOSED.
2:47:22PM AND I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM, YOU KNOW.
2:47:29PM EVERYONE APARTMENTS IN KEEPING IT CLEAN.
2:47:31PM AND I DON'T SEE THE ISSUE WHERE SHE COULDN'T GET TO HER PART
2:47:37PM TO PULL THE WEEDS OR WHATEVER.
2:47:38PM I WOULD HAVE WENT AND PULLED THE WEEDS.
2:47:40PM WE TRY TO WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY PERSON.
2:47:46PM I BEEN IN THAT COMMUNITY AND I HAVE BEEN IN MANY
2:47:49PM COMMUNITIES.
2:47:51PM I HAVE A FOUNDATION, I ASSIST OUR FRIENDS.
2:47:54PM I BELIEVE UNITED WE STAND, BUT DIVIDED WE FALL.
2:47:57PM AND I BELIEVE IN WORKING TOGETHER.
2:48:01PM AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO IT.
2:48:04PM IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO DO EVEN RAISE CHILDREN, TO KEEP YOUR
2:48:09PM COMMUNITY SAFE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO DO.
2:48:13PM AND IF SHE NEEDED HELP, WE WOULD HAVE -- I WOULD HAVE PAID
2:48:18PM FOR SOMEONE TO PULL THE WEEDS AND EVERYTHING.
2:48:21PM BUT I AM JUST SAD THAT IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN RESOLVED, BUT
2:48:27PM THAT'S LACK OF COMMUNICATION.
2:48:30PM AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
2:48:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:48:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MRS. YOUNGBLOOD, MAKE SURE I GOTH GOT IT
2:48:39PM RIGHT.
2:48:40PM YOU ARE NOT IN OPPOSITION OF IT BEING CLOSED, CORRECT?
2:48:43PM >> NO.
2:48:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. YOUNGBLOOD, COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US
2:48:46PM YOUR FULL NAME FOR THE RECORD?
2:48:47PM >> MY FULL NAME IS SHELIAH, S-H-E-L-I-A-H YOUNGBLOOD, ONE
2:48:56PM WORD, Y-O-U-N-G-B-L-O-O-D.
2:49:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
2:49:03PM >> MIGHTY FINE COOKING.
2:49:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. PRIESTER, YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN
2:49:18PM BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY COMMENTS.
2:49:19PM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK).
2:49:22PM >> YES.
2:49:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
2:49:24PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
2:49:26PM I'M MARY PRIESTER AND MY HUSBAND AND I OWN THE PROPERTY AT
2:49:31PM 1706 EAST NORTH BAY, WHICH IS SOUTH OF THE ALLEYWAY.
2:49:37PM WE PURCHASED THAT PROPERTY IN 1991, AND EVEN AT THAT TIME
2:49:42PM THE ALLEYWAY WAS ALREADY CLOSED AND THE NEIGHBORS ON BOTH
2:49:46PM SIDES, THERE WAS A FENCE, SO YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT
2:49:50PM THERE WAS AN ALLEYWAY GOING THROUGH THERE.
2:49:53PM SO I AM IN FAVOR OF VACATING THAT ALLEY.
2:49:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
2:49:59PM IS THAT YOUR STATEMENT FOR TODAY?
2:50:02PM >> YES.
2:50:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:50:06PM PETITIONER, DO YOU HAVE ANY REBUTTAL?
2:50:09PM >> NO --
2:50:11PM >> COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE.
2:50:12PM >> I'M SORRY.
2:50:13PM I JUST WANT TO ADD TO WHAT MRS. YOUNGBLOOD WAS SAYING, IF
2:50:16PM THE NEIGHBOR WOULD HAVE TALKED TO US AND SAY, HEY, I NEED TO
2:50:19PM COME INTO YOUR PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, ONCE IN A WHILE JUST TO
2:50:23PM CLEAN THAT SIDE, WE SURE WOULD SAY, OKAY, JUST LET US NOTICE
2:50:27PM AHEAD OF TIME, AND WE ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO HAVE YOU ON
2:50:31PM THE SITE TO CLEAN THAT UP.
2:50:33PM THAT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.
2:50:34PM I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.
2:50:36PM AS SHE WAS SAYING, WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY.
2:50:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY ACCURATE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
2:50:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:50:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
2:50:45PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:50:48PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:50:50PM THANK YOU.
2:50:50PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:50:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD RATHER NOT MAKE A MOTION.
2:51:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:51:01PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, PLEASE.
2:51:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE 95, FILE VAC 22-30.
2:51:10PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
2:51:12PM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING,
2:51:13PM CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY NORTH OF
2:51:18PM NORTH OF NORTH PAY STREET SOUTH OF GENESEE STREET AND EAST
2:51:23PM OF 17th STREET AND WEST OF 19th STREET WITHIN THE
2:51:26PM PLAT OF BONITA SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA HILLS
2:51:30PM FLORIDA THE SAME FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT
2:51:33PM TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE
2:51:36PM PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE
2:51:37PM DATE FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS PROVIDING
2:51:39PM FOR DEFINITIONS INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICT
2:51:42PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:51:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED
2:51:48PM BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:51:50PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:51:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS ONE, BUT WE
2:51:57PM SHOULD NOTE BE CLOSING THIS BECAUSE OF THE CITY'S NEGLIGENCE
2:52:00PM SO WE NEED TO BE BETTER AT ENFORCING THESE IN THE FUTURE.
2:52:03PM I'LL VOTE YES.
2:52:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:52:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:52:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:52:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:52:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:52:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
2:52:11PM >> YES.
2:52:12PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:52:13PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY
2:52:16PM 2nd, 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
2:52:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:52:21PM FILE NUMBER -- EXCUSE ME, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 96, FILE VAC
2:52:26PM 23-02.
2:52:29PM I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE UNTIL
2:52:33PM JANUARY 19th.
2:52:36PM IS THIS THE FIRST CONTINUANCE ON THIS?
2:52:40PM >>RON WIGGINTON: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
2:52:42PM THIS IS THE FIRST REQUEST.
2:52:43PM I DON'T SEE THE APPLICANT IN CHAMBERS.
2:52:45PM HOWEVER THEY SENT ME AN E-MAIL YESTERDAY CONSENTING TO THE
2:52:47PM REQUEST.
2:52:48PM THERE ARE SOME OUTSTANDING ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO MOBILITY
2:52:50PM AND WATER DEPARTMENT, SO WE ARE HOPEFUL THOSE WILL BE
2:52:54PM RESOLVED WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
2:52:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE FOE CONTINUE ITEM IT 6 TO JANUARY
2:52:58PM 19 AT 10:30 A.M. UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.
2:53:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
2:53:04PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:53:06PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:53:08PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:53:10PM THANK YOU.
2:53:14PM >>RON WIGGINTON: IF I MAY, MAY I PROVIDE THIS E-MAIL?
2:53:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
2:53:26PM THANK YOU.
2:53:26PM >>RON WIGGINTON: THANK YOU.
2:53:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
2:53:30PM LET'S GO WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:53:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOTHING.
2:53:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE ONE.
2:53:42PM THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL GIVE MR. EFRAIN CABAN, A
2:53:45PM COMMENDATION FOR HIS BRAVERY FOR QUICK RESPONSE TO SAVE A
2:53:50PM PERSON ON DECEMBER 22ND, 2022, FROM A SOLID WASTE TRUCK.
2:54:00PM FAST, QUICK THINKING.
2:54:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:54:03PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:54:05PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:54:08PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:54:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF
2:54:11PM COME TO COUNCIL TO OUTLINE THE STEPS NECESSARY TO START THE
2:54:14PM PROCESS OF CREATING A SAFETY IMPACT FEE TO FUND THE MUCH
2:54:18PM NEEDED SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, REQUESTING THE DATE OF JANUARY
2:54:21PM 19th, 2023.
2:54:23PM I HAVE ALREADY CHECKED WITH LEGAL, I CHECKED WITH EVERYBODY
2:54:27PM FOR THE DATES.
2:54:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:54:33PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:54:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:54:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I HAVE ANOTHER ONE.
2:54:38PM I HAVE GOTTEN A TON OF CALLS AND E-MAILS ABOUT THIS
2:54:40PM RECENTLY.
2:54:41PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE WASTE MANAGEMENT STAFF
2:54:44PM COME TO COUNCIL AND EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MONDAY
2:54:47PM THURSDAY VERSUS TUESDAY-FRIDAY TRASH RECYCLING AND YARD
2:54:51PM WASTE PICKUP. (LAUGHTER)
2:54:52PM IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE ALSO GETTING MAIL.
2:54:55PM THERE IS AN INEQUITY IN THE NUMBER OF NONSERVICE DAYS AND
2:54:58PM WHAT CAN BE DONE TO ADDRESS IT.
2:55:00PM I HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO MR. WASHINGTON AND HE'S REQUESTING
2:55:02PM MARCH 2nd ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE HEIGHT OF
2:55:06PM GASPARILLA SEASON.
2:55:07PM [ LAUGHTER ]
2:55:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:55:12PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:55:14PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:55:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S IT.
2:55:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:55:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THIS MAY NOT HAVE TO BE A MOTION,
2:55:26PM BUT I HAVE A FRIEND, TAMPA NATIVE AND LOCAL ARCHITECT AND
2:55:32PM LATELY HE'S BEEN WRITING POETRY ON ALL THINGS TAMPA, VERY,
2:55:36PM VERY INTERESTING.
2:55:37PM AND THE OTHER DAY HE WROTE A POEM ABOUT GASPARILLA.
2:55:41PM SO I WAS THINKING INSTEAD OF INVOCATION FOR JANUARY
2:55:45PM 26th, BEFORE GASPARILLA WEEKEND, INVITE HIM TO READ HIS
2:55:50PM GASPARILLA POEM, IN THE SPIRIT OF THE SEASON.
2:55:53PM I KNOW IT'S UNUSUAL, BUT I MEAN IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A
2:55:57PM MOTION, BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTION?
2:56:02PM IT'S FUN.
2:56:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALONG WITH THE INVOCATION OR INSTEAD OF?
2:56:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE
2:56:08PM AND HAVE THE INVOCATION ALSO.
2:56:11PM OKAY, JUST A SUGGESTION, NOT A MOTION.
2:56:18PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
2:56:19PM THANK YOU.
2:56:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:56:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST REALLY QUICK COUPLE.
2:56:23PM I WAS GOING TO GET IN CONTACT WITH NATE ROSS WHO RECENTLY
2:56:30PM TURNED 100, A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR, HE WAS AT AUSCHWITZ, JUST
2:56:35PM AN AMAZING STORY AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE HIM A TAMPA CITY
2:56:38PM COUNCIL COMMENDATION FOR WHATEVER WE MEAT PERSONALLY.
2:56:42PM HE'S 100 SO CAN'T COME OUT HERE AND WANTED TO DO THAT IF I
2:56:45PM MAY.
2:56:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:56:50PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:56:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:56:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND AND LASTLY, ON ACCELA, THE RETRIEVAL
2:56:59PM SYSTEM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, GETTING A LOT OF CONCERNS ON
2:57:02PM THE VIABILITY OF THE SYSTEM, THE EFFICIENCY OF THE SYSTEM,
2:57:06PM NOT JUST FOR DEVELOPERS AND FOR PEOPLE DOING BUSINESS WITH
2:57:08PM THE CITY, BUT FOR NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS WHO WANT TO FIND OUT
2:57:11PM WHAT'S HAPPENING.
2:57:12PM SO I WOULD REQUEST, IF I MAY, ON FEBRUARY 2nd OF 2023
2:57:18PM FOR CITY STAFF TO COME TO REPORT ON THE CHALLENGES WITH
2:57:21PM ACCELA AND HOW WE CAN REMEDY THEM, AS WELL AS MAKE IT SO A
2:57:28PM COMPANY REPRESENTATIVE CAN COME TO TALK ABOUT INEFFICIENCIES
2:57:30PM IN THE SYSTEM AND WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING TO REMEDY
2:57:34PM THOSE DEFICIENCIES.
2:57:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:57:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:57:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
2:57:39PM YOU KNOW, REALLY FAST, OFF-PREMISES, DAVID ROLLINS, THE
2:57:44PM STAFF ATTORNEY FOR THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT, DOING A
2:57:47PM COMMENDATION FOR HIM FOR OVER 25 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE
2:57:50PM 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT.
2:57:53PM OFF-PREMISES.
2:57:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:57:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:57:59PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:58:02PM I HAVE TWO.
2:58:03PM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO HAVE STAFF GIVE AN UPDATE TO THE
2:58:09PM APPRENTICESHIP PARTICIPATION ON THE CONSTRUCTION AT THE
2:58:14PM HANNA STREET PROJECT, ESPECIALLY AS A REQUEST THAT WAS MADE
2:58:19PM BY ME AND OTHERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE FLORIDA STATE
2:58:26PM CERTIFIED.
2:58:28PM AND ALSO FOR WHAT IS IT, DRB -- CONSTRUCTION FIRM TO A
2:58:34PM COMPANY -- DVR TO ACCOMPANY THEM WITH THIS UPDATE.
2:58:38PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR FEBRUARY 2nd, 2023.
2:58:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN CITRO.
2:58:45PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
2:58:47PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:58:49PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:58:51PM ANY MOVED?
2:58:52PM YES, SIR.
2:58:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MOVE TO PRESENT A
2:58:54PM COMMENDATION TO THE BUCCANEERS QUARTERBACK BLAINE GABBERT
2:59:00PM AND HIS TWO BROTHERS, TYLER AND BARRETT, FOR THEIR ROLE IN
2:59:04PM THE RESCUE OF THE HOOK FAMILY AND THE PILOT OF THE
2:59:07PM HELICOPTER CRASH OFFER THE COAST OF DAVID ISLAND.
2:59:10PM THIS COMMENDATION WILL BE PRESENTED AT A LATER TIME,
2:59:13PM HOPEFULLY AFTER THE BUCCANEERS HAVE BROUGHT HOME THE SUPER
2:59:15PM BOWL CHAMPIONSHIP.
2:59:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN CITRO.
2:59:20PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:59:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:59:23PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:59:25PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
2:59:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
2:59:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ALMOST FORGOT.
2:59:34PM TODAY IS A VERY SPECIAL DAY FOR MYSELF, AND MY FRATERNITY.
2:59:39PM TODAY IS KAPPA DELTA PSI.
2:59:47PM WE ARE 112 YEARS OLD TODAY.
2:59:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON YOUR LICENSE PLATE YOU HAVE NUPE.
3:00:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S A SPECIAL NAME.
3:00:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
3:00:05PM MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:00:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE SECOND.
3:00:10PM EXCUSE ME.
3:00:11PM MR. SHELBY.
3:00:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
3:00:14PM JUST A REMINDER, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, ON YOUR CALENDAR, AND
3:00:18PM FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL DISCUSSION
3:00:21PM MEETING THAT IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE ON TUESDAY MORNING AT
3:00:25PM 8:00 A.M. DOWNSTAIRS IN THE SISTER CITY'S ROOM.
3:00:28PM I HAD SENT OUT THE NOTICE IN DECEMBER, BUT I WANT TO THANK
3:00:32PM KELLY SHAW FOR BRINGING THIS TO MY ATTENTION, THAT THE AUTO
3:00:36PM POPULATED CITY CLERK STAFF INSTEAD OF CITY COUNCIL STAFF SO
3:00:39PM I AM GOING TO PRESS THE SEND BUTTON AND RESEND IT BUT I WANT
3:00:42PM TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS IT ON YOUR CALENDAR, YOU
3:00:45PM MADE THE MOTION, THAT IT IS HOPEFULLY STARTING PROMPTLY AT
3:00:48PM 8:00 BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE ACCOMMODATIONS THAT START AT 9:00.
3:00:51PM SO I THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I WILL SEND THAT OUT AGAIN.
3:00:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:00:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
3:00:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE,
3:00:59PM WITHOUT OBJECTION.
3:00:59PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:01:17PM I'M GOING TO WAIT TILL THE VERY LAST PERSON IS HERE.
3:01:27PM WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
3:01:29PM [MEETING ADJOURNED]
3:01:37PM
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