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Tampa City Council
Thursday, January 12, 2023
5:01 p.m.

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05:08:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, GOOD EVENING.
05:08:28PM ROLL CALL PLEASE.
05:08:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:08:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
05:08:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
05:08:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:08:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:08:40PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:08:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:08:44PM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON WILL BE A
05:08:47PM COUPLE SECONDS LATE.
05:08:49PM I SAY SECONDS BECAUSE I KNOW HE WILL BE HERE SOON, AND
05:08:52PM COUNCILMAN VIERA IS APPEARING VIRTUALLY.
05:08:54PM MR. SHELBY.
05:08:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, CONSISTENT WITH COUNCIL'S
05:08:59PM RULES, COULD WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT
05:09:03PM COUNCILMAN VIERA IS APPEARING VIRTUALLY.
05:09:06PM >> SO MOVED.
05:09:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:09:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: REMINDER OF A ROLL CALL VOTE.
05:09:10PM THANK YOU.
05:09:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:09:13PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:09:16PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:09:16PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:09:18PM THANK YOU.
05:09:18PM MR. SHELBY.
05:09:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
05:09:20PM VERY BRIEFLY, QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS PER COUNCIL'S CUSTOM
05:09:26PM AND GOING TO BECOME A STANDARD RULE GOING TO ALLOW -- AND
05:09:30PM DOES ALLOW FOR IN-PERSON PARTICIPATION AND BY VIRTUAL
05:09:34PM PARTICIPATION.
05:09:35PM INSTRUCTIONS OF WHICH ARE AVAILABLE AT TAMPA.GOV/CITYCOUNCIL
05:09:41PM AND NOTICE OF HEARING AND ON THE AGENDA AND HAVE THE COUNCIL
05:09:44PM TO WAIVE THE RULES TO ALLOW IT.
05:09:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:09:49PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:09:51PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:09:51PM ANY AGAINST?
05:09:53PM THANK YOU, VERY, VERY MUCH.
05:09:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE LAST THING AND MIGHT DO IT AT THE
05:10:00PM OUTSET, EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS -- IF THERE ARE ANY EX-PARTE
05:10:09PM COMMUNICATIONS BEFORE THE HEARING TAKES PLACE, IF YOU CAN
05:10:11PM ANNOUNCE WITH WHOM IT TOOK PLACE AND THE SUM AND SUBSTANCE
05:10:14PM OF THAT COMMUNICATION.
05:10:17PM WITH REGARD TO THE WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS AVAILABLE FOR
05:10:20PM PUBLIC INSPECTION, PLEASE AT THIS TIME A MOTION TO MOVE AND
05:10:24PM FILE.
05:10:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION.
05:10:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:10:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:10:28PM ANY OBJECTION?
05:10:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
05:10:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:10:32PM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE INDULGE ME IN THIS.
05:10:34PM MISS WELLS.
05:10:38PM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
05:10:41PM AND THANK YOU FOR JUST A BRIEF INTRODUCTION.
05:10:45PM DANA CROSBY-COLLIER JOINED THE CITY'S LEGAL DEPARTMENT LAST
05:10:50PM MONTH.
05:10:50PM WE HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE HER TO YOU.
05:10:53PM DANA IS GOING TO BE WORKING IN THE LAND USE AND REAL ESTATE
05:10:57PM PRACTICE GROUP.
05:10:58PM YOU WILL SEE HER COMING BEFORE COUNCIL AS WE ARE PROCESSING
05:11:02PM AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 27.
05:11:05PM DURING HER INTERVIEW, SHE INDICATED THAT SHE ENJOYED
05:11:09PM LEGISLATIVE MATTERS AND WE SAID WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ON
05:11:12PM THAT.
05:11:12PM SHE WILL BE VERY BUSY.
05:11:14PM BUT JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DANA, GRADUATED FROM FLORIDA
05:11:18PM STATE UNIVERSITY COLLEGE OF LAW.
05:11:20PM GO 'NOLES.
05:11:22PM SHE COMES TO US FROM THE LAW FIRM OF STRALEY, ROBIN
05:11:27PM AND BAREKER, AND BEFORE THAT, SHEFFIELD, LOEHMANN AND WILSON
05:11:33PM AND PUBLIC SECTOR EXPERIENCE, SOMETHING THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO
05:11:36PM US AND ATTRACTIVE TO THE CITY.
05:11:38PM DANA WAS AN ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY WITH ORANGE COUNTY
05:11:42PM BETWEEN 2006 AND 2015, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY FOR THE CITY
05:11:46PM OF GAINESVILLE BETWEEN 2003 AND 2006 AND ASSISTANT COUNTY
05:11:53PM ATTORNEY WITH POLK FROM 1989 TO 2003, AND OTHER EXPERIENCE
05:11:57PM AS WELL.
05:11:57PM WITH ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT PUBLIC SECTOR EMPLOYERS AND THE
05:12:00PM PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE HAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF LAND
05:12:03PM USE EXPERIENCE THAT IS GOING TO BE A GREAT BENEFIT FOR THE
05:12:05PM CITY.
05:12:06PM SO I WILL JUST -- HERE IS DANA.
05:12:09PM >> A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
05:12:10PM I AM A TAMPA NATIVE.
05:12:12PM I WAS BORN HERE -- WENT TO ROBINSON AS WELL.
05:12:16PM GRADUATED ROBINSON AND WENT TO UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AND MOVED
05:12:21PM AWAY FOR AT THAT WHILE AND COME BACK -- I WAS TRYING TO GET
05:12:25PM BACK TO TAMPA EVER SINCE -- SINCE I LEFT.
05:12:27PM I AM DELIGHTED TO BE HERE.
05:12:28PM I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER.
05:12:30PM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
05:12:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, WELCOME TO
05:12:34PM THE FAMILY.
05:12:35PM >> THANK YOU.
05:12:36PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
05:12:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DOCK, SHOULD WE GO OVER THE AGENDA?
05:12:45PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
05:12:47PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:12:50PM AND THERE ARE A FEW ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR ON THIS
05:12:53PM EVENING'S AGENDA.
05:12:54PM SO THE FIRST ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 2 THIS IS A REQUEST
05:13:02PM -- REZ-22-44.
05:13:03PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 13, 2023.
05:13:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I APOLOGIZE, A MOTION TO MOVE HEARINGS.
05:13:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO MOVE 1-11.
05:13:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:13:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:13:22PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:13:23PM ANY OBJECTION?
05:13:24PM IS THE PETITIONER HERE?
05:13:25PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I BELIEVE SO.
05:13:26PM >> GOOD EVENING, DAVID WRIGHT.
05:13:28PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33688.
05:13:32PM WE ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE IN ORDER TO ALLOW US TO WORK
05:13:35PM WITH STAFF A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON THIS APPLICATION AND ALSO
05:13:38PM REQUEST TO WAIVE THE 180-DAY RULE, PLEASE.
05:13:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD
05:13:45PM LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS CONTINUANCE ONLY.
05:13:48PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
05:13:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE THE ITEM REZ-22-44 TO
05:14:03PM APRIL 13, 2023.
05:14:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
05:14:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOUR FIRST CONTINUANCE, CORRECT?
05:14:10PM >> YES.
05:14:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN --
05:14:15PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: SORRY, IT WAS THE SECOND.
05:14:18PM ANOTHER CONTINUANCE.
05:14:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS DOCK, WHAT DID YOU SAY?
05:14:23PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THE SECOND CONTINUANCE.
05:14:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT IS THE SECOND CONTINUANCE.
05:14:27PM DOES THAT CHANGE YOUR MOTION, COUNCILMAN
05:14:30PM MANISCALCO.
05:14:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT DOES NOT.
05:14:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE SECOND DOES NOT CHANGE?
05:14:37PM THIRD ONE.
05:14:38PM AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:14:40PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:14:41PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:14:44PM THANK YOU.
05:14:44PM >> THANK YOU.
05:14:45PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
05:14:48PM AGAIN, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:14:51PM THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO CLEAR IS ITEM NUMBER 5.
05:14:57PM IT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM THE APPLICANT.
05:15:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO WITHDRAW REZ-22-43.
05:15:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECOND
05:15:11PM BY GUDES.
05:15:12PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:15:13PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: NUMBER 7, REZ-22-83.
05:15:21PM THIS IS A MISNOTICE, AND THE SECOND TIME THIS HAS BEEN A
05:15:25PM MISNOTICE FOR THIS APPLICATION.
05:15:27PM THE APPLICANT IS BEING REPRESENTED BY STEVE MICHELINI AND HE
05:15:31PM IS HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A DATE.
05:15:32PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:15:35PM WE APOLOGIZE FOR THE SECOND MISNOTICE.
05:15:37PM WE TRANSPOSED SOME NUMBERS ON THE FOLIO NUMBERS WHEN WE
05:15:42PM REQUESTED THE NOTICE DOCUMENTS FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S
05:15:46PM OFFICE, AND THAT ENDED UP PROVIDING US WITH INACCURATE
05:15:49PM INFORMATION FOR THE NOTICE.
05:15:53PM WE HAVE SINCE CORRECTED THAT AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A NEW
05:15:57PM HEARING DATE.
05:15:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT DATE?
05:16:01PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: WE HAVE AVAILABLE APRIL 13.
05:16:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
05:16:06PM MR. MICHELINI, IF I CAN.
05:16:07PM HAS THIS BEEN MISNOTICED PRIOR TO THIS?
05:16:11PM >> THE SECOND MISNOTICE.
05:16:12PM THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD TIME THAT THE HEARING HAS BEEN SET.
05:16:15PM WE SENT OUT THE NOTICES, BUT THEY WENT TO THE WRONG
05:16:18PM ADDRESSES AND THAT IS OUR REQUEST AND EXTENUATING
05:16:21PM CIRCUMSTANCES SO THE COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER THIS.
05:16:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:16:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU SAID IT WENT OUT TO THE WRONG ADDRESS?
05:16:34PM >> WHEN WE PUT IN THE WRONG FOLIO NUMBERS REQUESTING THE
05:16:38PM NOTICE LIST, THE ADDRESSES THAT CAME BACK TO US WERE NOT --
05:16:42PM THEY WERE NOT THE CORRECT ONES THAT WE SHOULD BE NOTIFYING.
05:16:46PM SO TECHNICALLY A MISNOTICE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DISCOVER IT
05:16:50PM UNTIL AFTER THE DEADLINE WHEN NOTICES SHOULD HAVE GONE OUT.
05:16:53PM IT'S BEEN CORRECTED NOW, SIR.
05:17:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN COUNCIL WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
05:17:07PM THIS?
05:17:13PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:17:15PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
05:17:18PM THE PRESIDENT OF GANDY CIVIC ASSOCIATION WHICH RECEIVED THE
05:17:21PM FIRST MISNOTICE THAT WAS MAILED TWO DAYS AFTER IT WAS
05:17:24PM SUPPOSED TO BE MAILED.
05:17:25PM I ALSO AS THE BOARD MEMBER FOR SOUTH TOWN PARK RECEIVED A
05:17:30PM MISNOTICE FOR THE LAST MISNOTICE MAILED TWO DAYS LATE.
05:17:35PM I ALSO HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORS WHO RECEIVED THE
05:17:39PM FIRST MISNOTICE WHICH WAS MAILED TWO DAYS LATE.
05:17:43PM SO IF THEY WERE SENT TO THE WRONG PEOPLE THE FIRST TIME,
05:17:47PM THEY GOT NOWHERE -- THIS TIME.
05:17:50PM SO I AM REALLY, REALLY BEFUDDLED HOW YOU DO TWO MISNOTICES
05:17:56PM IN A ROW WHEN THERE IS A WAIVER REQUESTED IN THERE ON
05:17:58PM SOMETHING THAT WAS TURNED DOWN IN THE LAST WORKSHOP MEETING.
05:18:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO IGNORE
05:18:04PM THAT STATEMENT THAT WAS MADE OUTSIDE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
05:18:07PM IT IS NOT RELEVANT AT THIS POINT TO BE HEARD.
05:18:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS?
05:18:18PM >> HI, CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
05:18:21PM WE JUST HAVE A REAL PROBLEM WITH THE SCHEDULE OF CITY
05:18:24PM COUNCIL.
05:18:24PM I KNOW YOU ALWAYS ARE HAVING TO ADD EXTRA NIGHTS.
05:18:27PM THE SCHEDULING IS AN ISSUE.
05:18:28PM THE CONSTANT MISNOTICING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
05:18:32PM THE REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCES.
05:18:33PM IT HAS BEEN MISNOTICED TWICE.
05:18:35PM THAT IS ENOUGH.
05:18:37PM SHOULD BE FOLLOW THE RULES -- SHOULD BE WITHDRAWN.
05:18:40PM NO CONTINUANCE, THANK YOU.
05:18:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
05:18:45PM ANYONE ONLINE.
05:18:46PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
05:18:49PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:18:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, REPEAT THE RULES, SIR.
05:18:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, YOUR RULE STATES THAT -- YOUR CUSTOM
05:18:56PM RIGHT NOW WHICH IS -- IT IS CONSISTENTLY COUNCIL'S POSITION
05:19:00PM THAT IF ON MORE THAN TWO OCCASIONS THE MATTER IS PROPERLY
05:19:05PM SET BEFORE COUNCIL BUT THE PETITIONER DOES ONE OF THE
05:19:08PM FOLLOWING AND ONE IS FAILED TO PERFECT PUBLIC NOTICES IN THE
05:19:12PM APPLICABLE PROVISION OF ORDINANCES, COUNCIL MAY DEEM THE
05:19:16PM PETITION WITHDRAWN AND DISMISS THE PETITION.
05:19:20PM THAT IS WHAT YOUR CUSTOM HAS BEEN, MORE THAN TWO.
05:19:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
05:19:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO THIS IS THREE THEN.
05:19:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS TWO.
05:19:35PM THAT IS WHAT WE HEARD.
05:19:36PM DID I THEIR CORRECTLY FROM MISS DOCK?
05:19:41PM THE SECOND MISNOTICE.
05:19:42PM >> I HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY STAFF THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER THE
05:19:48PM EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES.
05:19:50PM SOME OF THE NOTICES WERE ACCURATE AND CORRECT.
05:19:53PM SOME OF THE NOTICES WERE NOT.
05:19:54PM BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, THE NOTICES HAVE TO BE 1
05:20:04PM 100%.
05:20:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN HAVE TWO, BUT NOT THREE.
05:20:08PM 180 DAYS KICKS IN, AM I CORRECT?
05:20:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN IF -- COUNCIL -- WITH REGARD TO
05:20:16PM MISNOTICES, COUNCIL HAS BEEN CONSISTENT TO MY RECOLLECTION
05:20:21PM TWO MISNOTICE.
05:20:22PM IF THERE IS A THIRD MISNOTICE, COUNCIL HAS -- IF MY
05:20:26PM RECOLLECTION IS CLEAR, DEEMED IT WITHDRAWN.
05:20:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS WELLS.
05:20:32PM >>CATE WELLS: THIS IS ADDRESSED TO 27-150 OF THE LAND
05:20:38PM DEVELOPMENT CODE.
05:20:39PM NOT IN COUNCIL'S RULES AND PROCEDURES SAYS WHERE AN
05:20:42PM APPLICANT FILING AN APPLICATION FOR REZONING PROPERTY FAILS
05:20:45PM TO PERFECT HIS APPLICATION BY NOT FILING THE AFFIDAVIT ON
05:20:49PM TIME OR OTHERWISE FAILS TO PERFECT THE NOTICE OR SITE PLAN
05:20:53PM REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THIS CHAPTER SO THAT THE
05:20:56PM PETITIONER MAY NOT BE HEARD AT THE SCHEDULED PUBLIC HEARING
05:20:59PM AND ANY OF THE FOR GOING ACTS AND OMISSIONS OCCUR FOR TWO
05:21:05PM CONSECUTIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS THEN NO NEW OR AMENDED OF THE
05:21:12PM SAME PROPERTY WILL BE HEARD MINIMUM OF SIX MONTHS FROM THE
05:21:15PM DATE OF THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING SPECIFICALLY SCHEDULED FOR
05:21:18PM THAT PETITION AND OR PROPERTY.
05:21:19PM I THINK THAT IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT MR. SHELBY INDICATED
05:21:23PM WHERE HE -- HE WAS ADVISING COUNCIL THAT YOU MAY DEEM IT
05:21:26PM WITHDRAWN.
05:21:27PM THAT LANGUAGE IS NOT ACTUALLY IN THE CODE.
05:21:29PM THIS JUST ADDRESSES TWO CONSECUTIVE MISNOTICED HEARINGS AND
05:21:35PM A SIX-MONTH WAITING PERIOD, THAT IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED
05:21:39PM WITHDRAWN.
05:21:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
05:21:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:21:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM CLEAR.
05:21:46PM YOU HAD TWO MISNOTICES.
05:21:49PM >> YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.
05:21:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE RULE SAYS TWO MISNOTICES.
05:21:55PM >>CATE WELLS: ACTUALLY IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND NOT
05:21:58PM A RULE.
05:21:59PM A LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PROVISION, 27-150, SUBSECTIONS D.
05:22:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE/
05:22:05PM THAT IS WHAT MISS WELLS IS STATE SOMETHING CORRECT.
05:22:08PM WHICH IS -- THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS WITH REGARD FOR
05:22:19PM 27-150, YES.
05:22:20PM OR TWO CONSECUTIVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
05:22:25PM THEN KNOW OKAY.
05:22:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:22:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. GUDES.
05:22:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES.
05:22:39PM WE HAD TWO HEARINGS.
05:22:41PM ANY EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES THIS TIME?
05:22:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, REPEAT THAT, SIR?
05:22:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ANY EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES FALL WHAT MR.
05:22:51PM MICHELINI IS ALLEGING AT THIS TIME.
05:22:53PM HE HAD TWO HEARINGS WITH NOTICES AND UP TO THIS COUNCIL TO
05:22:58PM GET A THIRD.
05:22:59PM I AM ASKING ANY EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES IF WE BESIDE TO DO
05:23:03PM THIS -- TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS MATTER?
05:23:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE NOTHING IN THE CODE THAT WOULD ALLOW
05:23:09PM THAT.
05:23:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCILMAN
05:23:22PM CARLSON HAS JOINED US.
05:23:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS WELLS, CAN YOU CONCUR NO BASIS IN THIS
05:23:27PM CODE THEN FOR COUNCIL'S DISCRETION ON THIS UNDER THE WAY YOU
05:23:30PM HAVE -- YOU HAVE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
05:23:33PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS FOR THE RECORD, THE ONE TIME I AM
05:23:38PM AWARE OF WHERE COUNCIL WAIVED THIS REQUIREMENT, ATTORNEY
05:23:42PM CLAYTON BRICKLEMYER HAD TESTIFIED THAT FOR THE FIRST
05:23:47PM SCHEDULED HEARING, HE HAD NOT RECEIVED THE NOTICE FROM CITY
05:23:51PM STAFF.
05:23:51PM SO IN THAT SITUATION, COUNCIL FOUND EXTENUATING
05:23:55PM CIRCUMSTANCES AND WAIVED THE REQUIREMENTS AND ALLOWED THE
05:23:59PM HEARING TO GET SCHEDULED FOR A THIRD TIME.
05:24:01PM THAT IS -- THAT IS THE ONE TIME I AM AWARE OF THAT COUNCIL
05:24:05PM HAS WAIVED THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION WHEN IT HAS BEEN
05:24:08PM TRIGGERED.
05:24:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PEOPLE ARE WAITING.
05:24:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE.
05:24:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE RULE IS THE RULE.
05:24:22PM TWO MISNOTICES SO --
05:24:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN UNDER 27-150, IT WOULD BE DEEM
05:24:30PM WITHDRAWN.
05:24:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 7.
05:24:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:24:38PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:24:40PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:24:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, I WAS GOING TO ASK IF I SHOULD VOTE
05:24:45PM ON IT.
05:24:46PM BUT MR. -- MARTY, I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE CASE BECAUSE --
05:24:50PM BECAUSE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT BRIEFED ME ON IT.
05:24:53PM BUT I DID NOT HEAR THE TESTIMONY.
05:24:55PM SHOULD I VOTE ON IT OR NOT?
05:24:56PM I APOLOGIZE, I GOT STUCK IN TRAFFIC WITH A KID THING.
05:25:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DOCK, WILL YOU APPROACH THE -- THE
05:25:06PM LECTERN.
05:25:07PM DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
05:25:09PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I WAS GOING TO FINISH ONCE THE VOTE IS DONE.
05:25:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE TO HAVE A
05:25:16PM SUFFICIENT AMOUNT OF INFORMATION TO PRESENT THE VOTE.
05:25:18PM HAVE YOU HEARD THE OPPORTUNITY OR THE DISCUSSION OF THE
05:25:20PM SECTION OF THE CODE?
05:25:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: I UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION.
05:25:23PM I DID NOT HEAR THE APPLICANT'S TESTIMONY, BUT I JUST HEARD
05:25:27PM THIS SIDE OF IT.
05:25:27PM IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE ME TO RECUSE MYSELF, I CAN.
05:25:31PM I APOLOGIZE TO MISS THE TESTIMONY.
05:25:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK IT IS SUFFICIENT THAT YOU CAN VOTE
05:25:37PM ON THIS.
05:25:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR MADE BY COUNCILMAN
05:25:40PM GUDES.
05:25:40PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:25:43PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:25:43PM ANY OPPOSED.
05:25:45PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
05:25:53PM THAT COMPLETES ALL OF THE ITEMS.
05:25:57PM DID YOU WANT TO --
05:26:00PM >>I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THE SITE PLAN IS AMENDED THEN
05:26:03PM WE CAN REFILE WITHOUT THE SIX MONTHS?
05:26:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S CORRECT.
05:26:07PM MR. SHELBY?
05:26:10PM NO?
05:26:11PM MISS CATE WELLS, NO?
05:26:15PM >> IT IS A NEW APPLICATION.
05:26:16PM >> THAT'S FINE.
05:26:20PM THANK YOU.
05:26:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I STAND CORRECTED.
05:26:24PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
05:26:25PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:26:28PM THAT CLEARS THE AGENDA.
05:26:29PM THAT WAS THE LAST ITEM TO CLEAR AND WE ARE READY TO START
05:26:33PM THE AGENDA WITH THE FIRST ITEM.
05:26:34PM TURN IT OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:26:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO DO SOMETHING AT THIS TIME.
05:26:40PM WE HAVE A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE.
05:26:42PM WE HAVE PEOPLE DOWNSTAIRS.
05:26:44PM ARE YOU GOING TO RUN DOWNSTAIRS RIGHT NOW?
05:26:49PM >> GIVE ME A SECOND.
05:26:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
05:26:52PM BECAUSE WE -- WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEAKING.
05:26:57PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS SWORN IN, EVEN IF YOU HAVE
05:27:02PM GIVEN A WAIVER FOR YOUR TIME.
05:27:04PM I WILL STILL LIKE -- EVERYWHERE WHO IS GOING TO BE GIVING
05:27:07PM ANY TYPE OF SYSTEM TONIGHT OR MAKING ANY SPEAKING ON ANY OF
05:27:13PM OUR AGENDA ITEMS TO PLEASE RISE, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE
05:27:23PM SWORN IN.
05:27:24PM >>CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE
05:27:34PM ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
05:27:37PM >> YES.
05:27:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE BE SEATED, AND, PLEASE, MAY I ASK --
05:27:42PM MAY I ASK THAT YOUR CELL PHONES BE SILENCED.
05:27:45PM THANK YOU.
05:27:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WANT SOME POPCORN.
05:27:50PM YOU GOT POPCORN?
05:27:56PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:27:58PM JENNIFER MALONE WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:28:00PM BEFORE I DIVE INTO THE PRESENTATION, I WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS
05:28:04PM THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE FOR THE CASE AND PROVIDE OPTIONS FOR
05:28:07PM CITY COUNCIL.
05:28:07PM AS YOU -- I THINK THERE WAS A LETTER THAT WAS UPLOADED
05:28:11PM TO SIRE KIND OF EXPLAINING THE BACKGROUND OF THIS CASE.
05:28:14PM AS REFLECTED IN THE LETTER, THE APPLICANT APPLIED TO TO THE
05:28:17PM PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE REQUEST OF RESIDENTIAL 83 ON
05:28:21PM THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:28:22PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED RESIDENTIAL 83.
05:28:26PM PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED ON RESIDENTIAL 83 AT THEIR
05:28:29PM NOVEMBER HEARING.
05:28:31PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THAT REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
05:28:33PM FOLLOWING THAT HEARING, THE APPLICANT SENT A LETTER TO THE
05:28:38PM PLANNING COMMISSION -- YES, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
05:28:42PM REQUESTING A REDUCTION IN DENSITY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL 80 TO
05:28:45PM THE RESIDENTIAL 50 DESIGNATION.
05:28:49PM IN THE INSTANCE OF A REDUCTION OF THE REQUEST AFTER IT IS
05:28:52PM HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT DOES NOT COME BACK TO
05:28:55PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, NOR DO WE FILE A NEW STAFF REPORT
05:28:58PM BECAUSE IT IS A REDUCTION.
05:28:59PM HAD THE REQUEST BEEN AN INCREASE, IT WOULD -- THE PROCESS
05:29:03PM WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
05:29:03PM THERE IS AN ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PROCEDURES
05:29:09PM MANUAL THAT YOU ADOPT BY RESOLUTION FOR THE CITIES OF TAMPA,
05:29:13PM TEMPLE TERRACE AND PLANT CITY AND GOES TO THOSE
05:29:16PM JURISDICTIONS AS WELL THAT IS SILENT ON THIS PROCESS.
05:29:18PM SO IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE STANDARD OPERATING THAT WHEN THE
05:29:21PM -- WHEN THE REQUEST IS REDUCED, WE DON'T ISSUE A NEW STAFF
05:29:26PM REPORT.
05:29:27PM NEITHER DID CITY STAFF BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, WE SEND THIS OUT
05:29:31PM FOR CITY STAFF REVIEW SO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE
05:29:35PM A REPORT AND STEVEN BENSON IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION
05:29:39PM OF HIS REPORT, BUT CITY STAFF DOES NOT REVIEW IT AGAIN ALSO.
05:29:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:29:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS MALONE, WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS NOT
05:29:49PM ASKING FOR A 83 AT THE TIME.
05:29:52PM >> THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR RESIDENTIAL 50.
05:29:55PM I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE PREPARED BY LEGAL
05:29:59PM AND THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL-35.
05:30:02PM AND THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU NOW AFTER THE -- AFTER THE
05:30:05PM AMENDED REQUEST IS RESIDENTIAL 50.
05:30:07PM IT IS VERY RARE THAT THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
05:30:10PM I ONLY SEEN IT ONE OTHER TIME IN MY SEVEN YEARS HERE THAT
05:30:14PM THE REQUEST IS AMENDED AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:30:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: EVEN THOUGH RARE, WHEN ISSUES DO ARISE, I
05:30:21PM THINK WE HAVE TO FIX THINGS WHEN THEY DO BECOME RARE.
05:30:23PM SO I WILL SUGGEST IN THE FUTURE OUR PEOPLE AND YOUR PEOPLE
05:30:28PM HAVE A REVISION AND SO WE WON'T HAVE THESE KIND OF
05:30:32PM CONTROVERSIES COMING FORWARD.
05:30:34PM AND I WILL ASK THAT YOU TAKE THAT BACK AND MAKE SURE IT CAN
05:30:37PM BE A POLICY WHERE THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO PUT SOMETHING HERE
05:30:41PM TO LET US KNOW TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
05:30:43PM I DON'T LIKE TO WASTE PEOPLE'S TIME.
05:30:45PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: ABSOLUTELY, COUNCILMAN.
05:30:48PM THANK YOU FOR THAT DIRECTION.
05:30:49PM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT COUNCIL HAS DISCRETION TO MOVE
05:30:53PM FORWARD TONIGHT REVIEWING THE RESIDENTIAL 50 AND KNOWING
05:30:56PM THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS NOT REVIEWED THAT REQUEST.
05:30:59PM NEITHER THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS AN APPOINTED BODY OR
05:31:03PM STAFF.
05:31:03PM SO THAT IS WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW OR YOU MAY MAKE A MOTION TO
05:31:07PM SEND IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE RESIDENTIAL
05:31:10PM 50 REQUEST TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
05:31:12PM BUT I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO PROVIDE
05:31:16PM SOME -- A STATEMENT IF THAT IS THE WAY THAT YOU DECIDE TO
05:31:20PM VOTE TONIGHT.
05:31:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
05:31:25PM I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM LEGAL OR MISS DOCK ON THAT.
05:31:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT WAS MY QUESTION TOO.
05:31:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HEAR FROM LEGAL BEFORE WE PROCEED AND WASTE
05:31:35PM ANY MORE TIME.
05:31:36PM WHAT IS -- WHAT IS THE CITY'S POSITION AT THIS TIME?
05:31:44PM SHOULD WE SEND THIS BACK OR MOVE ON THIS TONIGHT.
05:31:48PM WHAT ARE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO MOVE FORWARD.
05:31:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST ADD --
05:31:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:31:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHY WOULDN'T IT AUTOMATICALLY GO BACK TO THE
05:31:59PM PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST BEFORE COMING HERE.
05:32:01PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
05:32:06PM DEPARTMENT.
05:32:06PM STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT WE CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE
05:32:11PM PLAN AMENDMENT.
05:32:12PM THAT HAS HAPPENED ALBEIT WITH A HIGHER DENSITY CATEGORY
05:32:17PM BEING THE SUBJECT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING.
05:32:20PM THE STATE LAW HAS BEEN COMPLIED WITH BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN
05:32:23PM A HEARING.
05:32:23PM AND, AGAIN, IT IS AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE WHETHER THE
05:32:27PM REQUEST CHANGES AFTER THAT PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC
05:32:31PM HEARING.
05:32:31PM SO THE PROCEDURES MANUAL, AGAIN, THAT MISS MALONE REFER TO
05:32:35PM THAT YOU ALL ADOPT IS SILENT AS TO WHAT HAPPENS IN A
05:32:39PM SITUATION WHERE THERE IS A REDUCED REQUEST AFTER THE
05:32:43PM PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING.
05:32:44PM SO, STAFF DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THE OPTION TO AUTOMATICALLY
05:32:50PM REVIEW IT AGAIN.
05:32:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
05:32:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN SOMEONE ASKS FOR A CONTINUANCE.
05:33:01PM WE ASK FOR PUBLIC INPUT ON A CONTINUANCE.
05:33:04PM IN THIS CASE WE CAN REVIEW THE CASE OR SEND IT BACK TO THE
05:33:08PM PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:33:10PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WITHIN COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.
05:33:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: AN UNUSUAL SITUATION.
05:33:16PM A PROCESS TO ASK FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC AND THE
05:33:20PM APPLICANT AS FAR AS SENDING IT BACK TO THE -- TO THE
05:33:22PM PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE WE HEAR THE ENTIRE CASE?
05:33:25PM OR --
05:33:26PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: CERTAINLY WITHIN COUNCIL'S DISCRETION
05:33:29PM TO DO AS WELL.
05:33:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST, DECISION TO SEND IT BACK TO THE
05:33:33PM PLANNING COMMISSION OR NOT AND SECOND QUESTION, WHETHER TO
05:33:36PM REVIEW IT AND APPROVE IT.
05:33:37PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: COUNCIL HAS DISCRETION TO PROCEED
05:33:40PM WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WITH UNDERSTANDING YOU
05:33:45PM DON'T HAVE FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF OR
05:33:47PM PLANNING COMMISSION AS TO THEIR THOUGHTS OF WHAT THE R-50
05:33:51PM CATEGORY, WHETHER THAT IS CONSISTENT.
05:33:53PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:33:57PM I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU FOR THE RECORD, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE
05:34:00PM TO PREDICT HOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL VOTE ON A
05:34:02PM RESIDENTIAL 50 REQUEST.
05:34:04PM SO WE KNOW HOW THEY VOTED ON THE RESIDENTIAL 83.
05:34:07PM I DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY WILL VOTE ON THE RESIDENTIAL 50 NOR
05:34:10PM WHAT STAFF'S FINDING WILL BE.
05:34:12PM THANK YOU FOR THAT TIME.
05:34:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST -- ONE LAST QUESTION FOR THE
05:34:20PM ATTORNEY.
05:34:20PM IS THERE -- WILL WE HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SEND IT BACK
05:34:25PM BEFORE WE HEAR THE CASE -- SHOULD WE MAKE A MOTION TO SEND
05:34:28PM IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SEND IT BACK TO THE
05:34:32PM APPLICANT AND HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND THE PUBLIC FOR
05:34:34PM THAT MATTER AND IF WE DECIDE TO DO IT WE WILL GO THROUGH THE
05:34:38PM CASE.
05:34:38PM IS THAT WHAT YOU WILL RECOMMEND?
05:34:40PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES.
05:34:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU FINISHED.
05:34:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: I CAN MAKE A MOTION AFTER EVERYBODY --
05:34:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:34:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THE APPLICANT.
05:34:50PM WOULD THE APPLICANT -- NO, NO, JUST ASKING IN GENERAL.
05:34:55PM IS THERE A REASON THAT AN APPLICANT WOULDN'T -- COULD THE
05:34:59PM APPLICANT REQUEST THAT IT GO BACK THROUGH THE PLANNING
05:35:02PM COMMISSION OR WAS -- DO THEY NOT HAVE THAT OPTION?
05:35:06PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION
05:35:08PM STAFF.
05:35:09PM THE APPLICANT -- YES, AT ANY TIME COULD HAVE SAID WE WOULD
05:35:13PM LIKE ANOTHER REVIEW TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE COULD
05:35:16PM HAVE MOVED THIS MEETING TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
05:35:18PM THAT IS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE PROCEDURES MANUAL.
05:35:22PM WE NEED -- IF THERE IS A CHANGE OF THE REQUEST, WE NEED IT
05:35:26PM -- I THINK 30 DAYS.
05:35:27PM A DEADLINE IN THE PROCEDURES MANUAL BEFORE THE PLANNING
05:35:31PM COMMISSION HEARING AND SILENT WHAT HAPPENS BEFORE THE TAMPA
05:35:34PM CITY COUNCIL HEARING.
05:35:35PM SO -- THEY COULD HAVE -- WE COULD HAVE WORKED WITH THEM TO
05:35:40PM RE-REVIEW THAT AND SEND IT BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS IF THAT
05:35:43PM WAS THEIR REQUEST.
05:35:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT REQUEST WAS NOT MADE, I AM JUST
05:35:47PM CLARIFYING.
05:35:48PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: THAT'S CORRECT.
05:35:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOING TO SECOND COUNCILMAN GUDES'
05:35:54PM RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I SAID IT DURING THE PREP HEARING FOR
05:35:57PM THIS.
05:35:57PM ANYTHING WE INTO NEED TO DO ORDINANCE WISE, LET US KNOW,
05:36:01PM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANYONE'S TIME AGAIN.
05:36:05PM PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO GET TO ONE OF THE OFFICES, WE WILL
05:36:09PM MAKE THE MOTION.
05:36:09PM JUST LET US KNOW.
05:36:11PM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
05:36:13PM BUT THEN I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
05:36:17PM OH, YES, I AM SORRY.
05:36:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:36:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL SAY WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SPOKE
05:36:26PM ABOUT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD DO.
05:36:28PM WE KNOW WHAT THEY DO WITH THE 83 BUT DON'T KNOW THE 50.
05:36:32PM FOR US TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS MAY BE OPENING SOME TYPE OF
05:36:36PM LEGALITY TOWARD THE CITY, I GUESS.
05:36:37PM I AM NOT SURE.
05:36:38PM I AM NOT A LAWYER.
05:36:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:36:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS MY QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT'S
05:36:44PM ATTORNEY WHY YOU CHOSE NOT TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING
05:36:48PM COMMISSION.
05:36:48PM >> FOR THE RECORD, JULIA MANDELL, THE LAW FIRM OF GRAY,
05:36:54PM ROBINSON, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
05:36:57PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
05:36:59PM THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WHEN IT WENT TO THE PLANNING
05:37:01PM COMMISSION, THE WHOLE ISSUE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION
05:37:06PM HAD TO DO WITH THE INCREASE IN DENSITY AND WHETHER OR NOT --
05:37:10PM WHETHER OR NOT IT MET THE COASTLE HIGH HAZARD POLICIES.
05:37:14PM CANDIDLY WILL NOT CHANGE WITH THE R-50.
05:37:17PM THE ISSUE IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:37:21PM REASON WE ASKED FOR THE R-83 BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOUR
05:37:25PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REQUIRES YOU TO APPLY FOR A COMP PLAN
05:37:29PM AMENDMENT MEANING YOU HAVE TO APPLY FOR A COMP PLAN
05:37:32PM AMENDMENT IF THERE IS A COMP PLAN DESIGNATION ADJOINING YOUR
05:37:36PM PROPERTY.
05:37:36PM THE ONLY COMP PLAN DESIGNATION ADJOINING OUR PROPERTY OTHER
05:37:42PM THAN CMU-35 AND R-35 IS R-83.
05:37:47PM I -- I CAN GET MORE INTO THE REASONS WHY WE ARE DOING THIS
05:37:52PM TO BEGIN WITH, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IS YOUR QUESTION.
05:37:54PM WE WENT DOWN TO THE R-50 ALTHOUGH NOT ADJOINING BECAUSE OF
05:37:59PM OUR CONVERSATIONS AND THE FEEDBACK WE WERE GET THE COMMUNITY
05:38:04PM AS IT RELATED TO CONCERNS OVER THE DENSITY.
05:38:06PM AGAIN, I CAN GET INTO IT MORE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYTHING
05:38:10PM IS GOING TO CHANGE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL, BECAUSE
05:38:13PM THEIR ENTIRE REASONING FOR THE INCONSISTENCY HAD TO DO WITH
05:38:18PM THE COMP PLAN OF R-83 AND DENSITY.
05:38:22PM R-50 WILL TECHNICALLY INCREASE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR DENSITY.
05:38:27PM THE ZONING WILL -- WILL ADDRESS THAT ISSUE AND SOME OF THE
05:38:31PM THINGS WE HAVE DONE IN THE PROCESS WILL ADDRESS THAT ISSUE.
05:38:34PM I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
05:38:35PM THAT IS WHY WE DID NOT ASK FOR IT TO GO BACK.
05:38:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
05:38:40PM THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR LEGAL AND THEN I AM DONE.
05:38:43PM IF THIS WERE DENIED TONIGHT, IF THE COMP PLAN WERE DENIED,
05:38:53PM WILL THEY BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO -- TO THE CITY AND SUE AND
05:38:58PM SAY WE DIDN'T HAVE THE -- WHAT WE NEEDED IN FRONT OF US?
05:39:03PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WELL, A LEGISLATIVE DECISION, SO IT
05:39:07PM IS NOT A QUASI-JUDICIAL DECISION BUT A POLICY DECISION TO
05:39:12PM MAKE WHETHER THE APPROPRIATE OF THE DESIGNATION ON THE
05:39:17PM PROPERTY.
05:39:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:39:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S WHY I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.
05:39:22PM WE ARE GOING TO SIT UP HERE AND HEAR SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW
05:39:26PM IS A RARITY.
05:39:28PM IF -- IF WE KNOW IT IS NOT RIGHT RIGHT NOW, I DON'T FEEL
05:39:32PM COMFORTABLE VOTING ON SOMETHING.
05:39:33PM I WOULD PREFER IT GO BACK.
05:39:35PM I TONE WANT TO HEAR THESE PEOPLE TALK AND -- IT MAKES NO
05:39:39PM SENSE.
05:39:39PM IF IT IS NOT RIGHT.
05:39:40PM WE SEND IT BACK AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE, BUT TO SIT
05:39:43PM HERE AND SAY WE ARE GOING TO SEND IT BACK AND HEAR
05:39:50PM TESTIMONY.
05:39:51PM I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.
05:39:52PM TO MAKE THE DECISION AND COME BACK HERE.
05:39:55PM THAT IS MY TAKE ON THAT.
05:39:57PM I AM ONE VOTE, BUT IT IS MY TAKE ON THAT.
05:40:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU FINISHED?
05:40:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, I AM FINISHED.
05:40:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:40:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG THE SAME QUESTION AS MR. GUDES,
05:40:08PM THIS IS A RARITY.
05:40:10PM I NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE WHERE YOU SAY YOU ARE NOT GOING TO
05:40:12PM SEE IT AFTER THEY -- COME OUT AFTERWARDS.
05:40:16PM FOR CLARITY, I WANT -- I SEE IS THE CLERK HERE, A NICE LADY
05:40:21PM DOING HER JOB AND ALL THE GOOD PEOPLE THAT MISS DINNER AND A
05:40:25PM LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ANXIOUS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
05:40:27PM IN ORDER FOR CLARITY, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE HAVE
05:40:31PM SOMETHING TO HANG OUR HAT ON, THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE HEARD.
05:40:34PM THAT IS JUST MY FEELING.
05:40:36PM FOR THE GOOD PEOPLE, FOR THE DEVELOPER, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO
05:40:40PM COME HERE AND SAY THEY LIKE IT OR DON'T LIKE IT, THAT IS THE
05:40:44PM BEST THING FOR THEM TO HAVE.
05:40:45PM TODAY IF THIS HAPPENS AND IT GETS THROWN BACK, WE HAVE TO
05:40:48PM REHEAR IT AGAIN.
05:40:49PM GO BACK TO THIS.
05:40:50PM AND IT IS A MESS.
05:40:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS MALONE.
05:40:56PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CITRO.
05:40:59PM I WILL JUST ADD -- THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR ALL OF THIS GREAT
05:41:02PM FEEDBACK.
05:41:02PM I WILL DEFINITELY WORK WITH SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ'S DEPARTMENT
05:41:06PM ON HOW WE CAN MAKE THAT MORE CLEAR IN THE MANUAL.
05:41:10PM IF YOU DO CHOOSE TO SEND IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
05:41:13PM TONIGHT, I WILL ASK THAT IN YOUR MOTION, IT IS FOR THE
05:41:18PM FEBRUARY 2023 PLAN AMENDMENT CYCLE, I WOULD REALLY
05:41:23PM APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE WE TAKE THESE FOUR TIMES A YEAR AND
05:41:27PM THAT WOULD HELP US FOR OUR PROCESSING.
05:41:29PM THANK YOU.
05:41:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:41:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
05:41:37PM DID -- DID COUNCILMAN GUDES MAKE A MOTION AND COUNCILWOMAN
05:41:44PM HURTAK SECONDED?
05:41:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO ONE HAS MADE A MOTION.
05:41:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ, IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO
05:41:52PM SEND IT BACK -- BEFORE WE HEAR THE CASE, MAKE A MOTION TO
05:41:56PM SEND IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:41:57PM I THINK YOU SAID A MINUTE AGO WE SHOULD ALLOW PUBLIC
05:42:00PM COMMENT.
05:42:00PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WITHIN COUNCIL'S DECISION.
05:42:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: LEGISLATIVE AND NOT QUASI JUDICIAL.
05:42:06PM EVIDENCE WE CAN OR CANNOT USE FROM THE PUBLIC OR THE
05:42:10PM APPLICANT?
05:42:10PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: AGAIN, IT'S --
05:42:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: LEGISLATIVE SO TAKE ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK.
05:42:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, YOU LIMIT TO THE
05:42:20PM SUBJECT MATTER OF GOING BACK IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND
05:42:23PM NOT GET INTO THE SUBSTANCE WHAT YOU WILL HEAR OTHERWISE THE
05:42:26PM LEGISLATIVE MATTER OF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT AND REZONING.
05:42:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST LIKE A CONTINUANCE ONLY FEEDBACK
05:42:35PM WHETHER TO SEND IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND NOT
05:42:37PM ON THE PARTICULAR CASE ITSELF.
05:42:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE THAT STATEMENT TO PEOPLE
05:42:41PM IN CHAMBERS SO THEY UNDERSTAND, MR. SHELBY.
05:42:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?
05:42:46PM DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT?
05:42:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE FOR TO YOU GO AHEAD AND MAKE
05:42:51PM THE STATEMENT AND THEN I WILL TAKE IS A MOTION.
05:42:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THERE IS A MOTION OF CITY COUNCIL TO
05:42:55PM SEND THIS BACK TO IT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:42:57PM AND THAT IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION AND THE CHAIR ASKS WHETHER
05:43:01PM YOU WANT TO SPEAK TO THAT REMANDING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING,
05:43:06PM I GUESS THAT IS THE PROPER TERM, REMANDING IT BACK TO THE
05:43:10PM PLANNING COMMISSION AND ASK THAT IT BE PLACED IN THE
05:43:12PM FEBRUARY 2023 CYCLE.
05:43:14PM THAT YOU DO NOT DISCUSS THE MERITS OF THE CASE.
05:43:16PM DO YOU NOT TALK ABOUT, NUMBER ONE, THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT
05:43:20PM AND NUMBER THREE, THE REZONING.
05:43:22PM YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE FACTS.
05:43:23PM YOU ONLY TALK ABOUT YOUR POSITION AS TO WHETHER IT SHOULD BE
05:43:28PM HEARD TONIGHT OR WHETHER IT SHOULD BE RETURNED TO THE
05:43:30PM PLANNING COMMISSION TO BE HEARD AS A -- AGAIN, THE
05:43:33PM DESIGNATION BEING A --
05:43:36PM >> A RESIDENTIAL 50 REQUEST.
05:43:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
05:43:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS MANDELL, I SEE YOU OVER THERE PACING.
05:43:46PM >> JULIA MANDELL.
05:43:50PM THE APPLICANT HAS NOT BROUGHT THE COURT REPORTER.
05:43:52PM THAT IS NOT OUR COURT REPORTER.
05:43:54PM SECONDARILY, IF CONCERNS OF GOING FORWARD TODAY, I THINK IT
05:43:58PM WAS STATED TO YOU THAT IT IS YOUR DISCRETION.
05:44:00PM SO IF YOU -- IF YOU DO HEAR IT TODAY, THAT IS YOUR
05:44:04PM DISCRETION, IF YOU SEND IT BACK, THAT IS THE DISCRETION.
05:44:06PM THE APPLICANT WILL WAIVE ANY RIGHT TO HAVE THAT HEARD TODAY.
05:44:10PM THAT IS NOT WHAT THE ISSUE -- I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR
05:44:13PM FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD AND ALSO TO JUST LET YOU KNOW
05:44:16PM THAT IF YOU DO DECIDE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REMAND IT, I WOULD
05:44:20PM LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY, LIKE TWO MINUTES, TO DISCUSS WITH MY
05:44:24PM CLIENT WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN SO THAT WAY WE CAN GIVE YOU OUR
05:44:28PM WHOLE POSITION ON THAT FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD THAT
05:44:31PM IS BEING MADE BY SOMEONE NOT US.
05:44:34PM SO I WOULD ASK FOR THAT INDULGENCE, THANK YOU.
05:44:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:44:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MAKE A MOTION TO REMAND ITEM NUMBER 1,
05:44:44PM FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 22-13 FOR THE FEBRUARY '23 CYCLE.
05:44:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXPAND.
05:44:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: REMAND TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:44:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: REMAND IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR
05:44:59PM REVIEW OF THE A --
05:45:04PM >> R-50 AS PART OF THE FEBRUARY 2023.
05:45:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: REMAND IT WITH THE R-50 DESIGNATION FOR THE
05:45:14PM FEBRUARY 2023.
05:45:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:45:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:45:19PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
05:45:22PM MISS MANDELL.
05:45:23PM >> IF I COULD ASK FOR A TWO-MINUTE RECESS BEFORE YOU TAKE
05:45:28PM PUBLIC COMMENT ON THAT SO I CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE
05:45:31PM CLIENT.
05:45:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITHOUT OBJECTION, A TWO-MINUTE RECESS.
05:45:37PM [RECESS WAS TAKEN]
05:53:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
05:53:11PM ROLL CALL VOTE -- ROLL CALL PLEASE.
05:53:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:53:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:53:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE VIERA SAYS HE IS HERE.
05:53:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
05:53:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:53:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:53:30PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:53:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR MADE BY COUNCILMAN
05:53:34PM GUDES.
05:53:34PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:53:36PM MISS MANDELL.
05:53:38PM >> THANK YOU, JULIA MANDELL FOR THE RECORD.
05:53:41PM I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH MY CLIENT AND THEY
05:53:44PM DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THIS BEING REMANDED BACK TO THE
05:53:47PM PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:53:48PM OUR INTENT WITH THIS APPLICATION TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AND
05:53:52PM OPEN AS POSSIBLE.
05:53:52PM IF THAT MAKES COUNCIL MORE COMFORTABLE, I AM PRESUMING IT
05:53:56PM MAKES MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE MORE COMFORTABLE.
05:53:58PM IF THAT -- WELL -- [AUDIENCE SAYING NO]
05:54:07PM >> THAT I WILL LEAVE TO COUNCIL AND WOULD LET YOU KNOW WE
05:54:11PM DON'T OBJECT WITH IT BEING SENT BACK IF THAT IS WHAT YOU
05:54:14PM WOULD LIKE.
05:54:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:54:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT --
05:54:27PM [INAUDIBLE]
05:54:27PM -- AM I CORRECT?
05:54:30PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION
05:54:32PM STAFF.
05:54:32PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE R-80 INCONSISTENT.
05:54:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IT
05:54:39PM CONSISTENT AND THE APPLICANT WANTED NOT 83 AND 50, IT WOULD
05:54:43PM BE NO PROBLEM.
05:54:43PM WE WOULD HAVE THE HEARING.
05:54:45PM HOWEVER, THE CIRCUMSTANCES ARE NOT THOSE AT ALL.
05:54:48PM PUTTING AN AWKWARD POSITION ON ALL OF US.
05:54:51PM AND LEGAL THINGS HAPPEN FOR A REASON, AND THIS MAY BE ONE OF
05:54:56PM THE REASONS BECAUSE SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE, THE PLANNING
05:54:58PM COMMISSION HAS ALWAYS PUT ON THE RECORD THEIR FEELINGS OF
05:55:02PM WHAT IS CONSISTENT OR INCONSISTENT ON EVERY CASE, AM I
05:55:06PM CORRECT?
05:55:07PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES, THAT IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW, YES,
05:55:09PM SIR.
05:55:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN THIS CASE, DID THAT HAPPEN?
05:55:13PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: FOR A DIFFERENT REQUEST, IT DID.
05:55:15PM NOT FOR THE ONE THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
05:55:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT HAPPENS NOW IF THIS COUNCIL MAKES TO
05:55:21PM HEAR THE CASE, I THINK THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT SOME
05:55:24PM OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN WILL HAPPEN
05:55:27PM TO THE CITY.
05:55:27PM BECAUSE IT HAS BROKEN THE CHAIN OF EVIDENCE THAT WE ALWAYS
05:55:32PM LOOKED AT NOT ONLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION
05:55:34PM BUT THE CITY STAFF RECOMMENDATION, AM I CORRECT?
05:55:38PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.
05:55:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEN WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS THIS IS
05:55:42PM SOMETHING NEW.
05:55:43PM TO ME IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.
05:55:45PM SO I UNDERSTAND THE ANXIETY THAT THE PUBLIC HAS, BUT WE HAVE
05:55:49PM TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS PUTTING THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY
05:55:54PM IN A VERY DIFFICULT POSITION.
05:55:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
05:56:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR, IT IS ALSO -- I HAD AN
05:56:06PM OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ AND MY
05:56:11PM RECOMMENDATION AND OPINION TO OPEN IT TO THE FLOOR CREATES A
05:56:15PM RISK OF COUNCIL HEARING THINGS THAT MAY ULTIMATELY BE
05:56:21PM INAPPROPRIATE AND UNHELPFUL DOWN THE ROAD.
05:56:25PM SO IT IS MY SUGGESTION THAT COUNCIL HAVE -- ACT ON THE
05:56:30PM MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND SEE WHERE IT GOES FROM THERE.
05:56:32PM AND -- AND NOT TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT IF COUNCIL FEELS
05:56:37PM COMPELLED AND FEELS IT NECESSARY IN ITS DISCRETION TO TAKE
05:56:41PM PUBLIC COMMENT, I WILL BE VERY MINDFUL OF THE ABILITY TO
05:56:45PM INTERRUPT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE RECORD MOVING
05:56:48PM FORWARD.
05:56:49PM BUT AS I SAY TO YOU FOR THE SAKE OF EXPEDIENCY AND
05:56:56PM CORRECTING THE RECORD, THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION WAS NOT TO
05:57:00PM TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AND ACT ON THE MOTION.
05:57:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:57:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL AGREE.
05:57:08PM WE DON'T WANT TO TAINT OR DAMAGE THE RECORD.
05:57:10PM WE MADE A MOTION.
05:57:11PM WE SEND IT BACK SO EVERYTHING IS CLEAR, TRANSPARENT AND
05:57:14PM WITHOUT ANY ISSUES.
05:57:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
05:57:17PM AGAIN, A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMAN -- COUNCILMAN
05:57:21PM GUDES.
05:57:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:57:24PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
05:57:25PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:57:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, I -- I WOULD PREFER TO HEAR FROM THE
05:57:29PM PUBLIC.
05:57:30PM WE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT, I WOULD PREFER TO HEAR FROM THE
05:57:32PM PUBLIC ONLY TO THIS POINT.
05:57:34PM AND IF WE DID, I WOULD ASK THAT WHATEVER GROUPS -- I DON'T
05:57:37PM KNOW WHO IS FOR OR AGAINST, BUT ASK WHATEVER GROUPS TO TRY
05:57:41PM TO NOT HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SAY THE SAME THING BUT A FEW
05:57:45PM PEOPLE MAKE THEIR SALIENT ARGUMENTS WHETHER IT SHOULD OR
05:57:49PM SHOULDN'T GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:57:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL ON
05:57:56PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S SUGGESTION.
05:57:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO REMAND IT BACK.
05:58:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF -- IF -- IT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL TO
05:58:06PM HEAR THE PUBLIC'S CONCERN ABOUT THIS REMANDING BACK, THEN WE
05:58:12PM WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT BEFORE THE VOTE.
05:58:14PM MR. SHELBY.
05:58:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS SOMEONE MAKES A MOTION TO CALL THE
05:58:17PM QUESTION AND YOU VOTE WHETHER TO CALL THE QUESTION AND THAT
05:58:20PM ENDS THE DEBATE.
05:58:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:58:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE PEOPLE ARE HERE.
05:58:27PM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM HEARING IF THEY WANT US TO HEAR THIS
05:58:32PM OR NOT, AS LONG AS NO COMMENT IS MADE ABOUT THE CASE ITSELF.
05:58:37PM I TEND TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:58:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT COUNCIL ALSO
05:58:44PM HAVE CONTROL OVER TIME LIMITS.
05:58:45PM YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO AFFORD THREE MINUTES FOR EACH
05:58:50PM SPEAKER.
05:58:50PM BECAUSE YOU ARE ONLY SPEAKING TO ONE -- ONE POINT.
05:58:53PM YES, SIR, I AM SORRY.
05:58:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I BE RECOGNIZED?
05:58:58PM I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN HEARING FROM COMMUNITIES WHAT THEY HAVE
05:59:01PM TO SAY.
05:59:01PM THIS CASE IS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CASE.
05:59:03PM I BELIEVE IT WILL TAINT THE WHOLE CASE TOTALLY.
05:59:07PM AND I WILL CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
05:59:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE A STOKED THAT.
05:59:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
05:59:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITHOUT FURTHER DEBATE.
05:59:19PM A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION AND END THE DEBATE AND BRING
05:59:21PM THE MAIN MOTION BACK TO THE FLOOR.
05:59:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT, GO BACK TO OUR MAIN MOTION WHICH
05:59:27PM IS MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:59:29PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:59:30PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT.
05:59:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:59:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:59:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:59:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:59:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:59:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:59:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:59:51PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:59:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:59:54PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:59:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD WE JUST GET FOR THE SAKE OF THE PEOPLE
05:59:58PM THAT CAME --
05:59:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS GOING TO TRY TO GET THERE BUT
06:00:02PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON --
06:00:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: BEFORE WE -- BEFORE EVERYBODY -- BEFORE -- I
06:00:07PM WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY TO -- SOMEBODY FROM LEGAL TO EXPLAIN TO
06:00:09PM THE PUBLIC WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND
06:00:13PM WHAT THE DATES AND PROCESS IS.
06:00:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THAT BEFORE -- BE MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN
06:00:17PM INTERRUPT, FORGIVE ME, BUT IS THAT BEFORE OR AFTER THE VOTE
06:00:22PM -- YOU WANT SOMEBODY -- BECAUSE YOU VOTED TO CALL THE
06:00:24PM QUESTION.
06:00:25PM CALLING THE QUESTION ENDS THE DEBATE AND BRINGS THE MAIN
06:00:29PM MOTION BACK ON TO THE FLOOR.
06:00:30PM DO YOU WANT THEM TO RAISE THE ISSUE -- YOU WANT TO RAISE THE
06:00:33PM ISSUE AFTER -- BECAUSE WASN'T A VOTE ON WHETHER TO REMAND.
06:00:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, SHOULD BE AFTER THE FINAL VOTE.
06:00:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I WILL EXPLAIN IT
06:00:45PM IN A WAY -- TO CALL THE QUESTION DOES NOT MEAN -- TO CALL
06:00:49PM THE QUESTION IN AND OF ITSELF IS A MOTION.
06:00:52PM A SUBSIDIARY MOTION TO THE MAIN MOTION THAT IS ON THE FLOOR.
06:00:55PM THAT IS THE MOTION TO -- WHETHER TO END THE DEBATE.
06:00:59PM AND THAT MOTION PASSED.
06:01:01PM WHICH NOW BRINGS TO COUNCIL WITHOUT FURTHER DEBATE THE MAIN
06:01:05PM MOTION ON THE FLOOR COUNCILMAN GUDES MOTION SECONDED BY
06:01:08PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:01:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DEBATE HAS BEEN ENDED.
06:01:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT HAS.
06:01:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BACK TO OUR ORIGINAL MOTION MADE BY
06:01:15PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:01:16PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:01:18PM ANY FURTHER DEBATE ON THAT -- THANK YOU.
06:01:21PM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
06:01:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS TO REMAND.
06:01:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:01:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:01:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:01:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:01:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:01:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:01:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:01:41PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:01:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:01:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO.
06:01:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:01:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: HAVE SOMEBODY FROM LEGAL EXPLAIN TO THE
06:01:53PM PUBLIC WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE AND DATES FOR THE PLANNING
06:01:57PM COMMISSION.
06:01:57PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION
06:01:59PM STAFF.
06:01:59PM SO AS PART OF THE FEBRUARY 2023 CYCLE, WE WILL CONSIDER THIS
06:02:04PM AMENDMENT AS PART OF FEBRUARY 2023 WITH THE REVISED REQUEST
06:02:07PM OF RESIDENTIAL 50.
06:02:08PM THAT TRACKS FOR A MAY 8 PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING DATE.
06:02:12PM AND THEN -- [AUDIENCE GROANING]
06:02:20PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: I BELIEVE IT WILL BE BEFORE YOU IN LATE
06:02:22PM MAY, EARLY JUNE, AND WE WILL HAVE TO WORK IT OUT WITH CITY
06:02:26PM STAFF.
06:02:27PM YOU APPROVE THOSE BY MOTION.
06:02:28PM SO -- [YELLING FROM AUDIENCE]
06:02:33PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
06:02:35PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE STATEMENT FOR
06:02:37PM THE RECORD, THE COMMUNITY WILL BE RENOTIFIED OF THE REQUEST.
06:02:40PM THE NOTICE WILL BE DONE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE
06:02:43PM CITY COUNCIL DATE.
06:02:46PM [YELLING FROM AUDIENCE]
06:02:49PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
06:02:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
06:02:52PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS FROM
06:02:54PM COUNCIL.
06:02:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
06:02:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAY PROBABLY COME MAY 8 AND WHAT HAPPENS
06:03:01PM AFTER THAT.
06:03:01PM WHEN WILL IT COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
06:03:03PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: COME BACK IN LATE MAY OR EARLY JUNE
06:03:07PM DEPENDING ON SCHEDULING WITH CITY STAFF.
06:03:09PM I WILL LET LACHONE SPEAK TO THAT.
06:03:12PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE IS ROOM ON YOUR CALENDARS.
06:03:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE POINT IS AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M
06:03:18PM WRONG, AT LEAST ONE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING
06:03:20PM COMMISSION AND THEN THERE WILL BE AT LEAST TWO OTHER
06:03:22PM OPPORTUNITIES TO COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL?
06:03:25PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES, SIR.
06:03:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: INSTEAD OF HEARING IT TONIGHT -- WE DON'T
06:03:31PM HEAR CASES THAT AREN'T -- THAT DECENT HAVE AN OPINION FROM
06:03:34PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:03:35PM SINCE, IN EFFECT, THE PAP WORK IS NOT COMPLETE, WE PUSH IT
06:03:40PM BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE A DECISION, BUT
06:03:42PM THERE ARE GOING TO BE AT LEAST -- IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION
06:03:44PM ONE MEETING OR MORE?
06:03:47PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: ONE MEETING.
06:03:48PM THAT MAY -- IT IS MAY 8.
06:03:50PM A MONDAY NIGHT.
06:03:50PM OKAY -- LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK.
06:03:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: FROM CITY, WHAT WOULD BE THE SOONEST THEY
06:03:57PM COULD COME BACK FOR A FIRST HEARING.
06:03:59PM >> MAY 8 AT 5:30 P.M.
06:04:04PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
06:04:07PM THE DATE IN JUNE FOR YOUR HEARING IS JUNE 8.
06:04:10PM SO IF THEY ARE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY 8, THEY CAN
06:04:13PM COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 8.
06:04:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO THEY HAVE TO NOTICE THE PUBLIC THEN?
06:04:18PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: THE PLAN AMENDMENT WILL ABSOLUTELY BE
06:04:21PM RENOTICED.
06:04:21PM AND I -- I WILL LEAVE THE ZONING RENOTICE --
06:04:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: WHEN IT COMES TO THE REZONING, IF THE DESIRE
06:04:29PM TO HAVE THEM RENOTICED AT THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL OR AT THE
06:04:32PM APPLICANT STATING --
06:04:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE MAKE A MOTION NOW?
06:04:36PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION --
06:04:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
06:04:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: -- THAT WE ASK THE APPLICANT TO RENOTICE.
06:04:44PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: FOR THE REZONING?
06:04:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR THE REZONING.
06:04:47PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: BECAUSE THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT WILL BE
06:04:50PM RENOTICED AUTOMATICALLY.
06:04:51PM ITEM NUMBER 3 IS THE ASSOCIATED REZONING.
06:04:54PM IS THAT THE DESIRE TO HAVE THE REZONING RENOTICED?
06:04:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, I JUST MADE A MOTION.
06:05:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SECOND.
06:05:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: SOMETIMES WHEN ITEMS ARE STAND, NO NOTICE TO
06:05:06PM THE PUBLIC AND YOU WILL HAVE TO WATCH IT CAREFULLY.
06:05:08PM I AM SURE YOU WILL WATCH IT CAREFULLY WHETHER FOR OR
06:05:11PM AGAINST, IN THIS CASE, THERE WILL BE BE A REQUIREMENT OF THE
06:05:15PM APPLICANT TO NOTICE THE PUBLIC AGAIN.
06:05:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:05:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:05:21PM ANY DISCUSSION?
06:05:23PM EXCUSE ME, MR. SHELBY.
06:05:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU.
06:05:26PM THE MOTION YOU TOOK FOR A REMAND WAS SOLELY FOR ITEM NUMBER
06:05:32PM 1.
06:05:32PM YOU ARE DISCUSSING ITEM NUMBER 3.
06:05:35PM ITEM NUMBER 3 AS PART OF THE MOTION TO CONTINUE, THAT WOULD
06:05:38PM BE -- DO YOU WANT TO HAVE IT AS A RESET?
06:05:42PM OR DO YOU WANT IT AS A STATE CERTAIN WITH PART OF THE MOTION
06:05:45PM IRRESPECTIVE OF IT IS TO HAVE IT NOTICED FOR THE NEW DATE.
06:05:52PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
06:05:52PM THERE COULD BE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO JUNE 8,
06:05:56PM 2023 BUT WITH DIRECTION FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE NOTICE.
06:06:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT CAN'T BE HEARD TONIGHT ANYWAY BECAUSE WE
06:06:03PM DID NOT VOTE ON THE FIRST ITEM, CORRECT?
06:06:07PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
06:06:08PM AND MAYBE THE APPLICANT WOULD WANT TO --
06:06:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DON'T MAKE A MOTION?
06:06:14PM THEN STAFF JUST SCHEDULING IT?
06:06:16PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: BASED ON THE REQUEST OF THE REZONING, THE
06:06:19PM FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT AND THE REQUESTED DENSITY FROM THE
06:06:25PM APPLICANT.
06:06:25PM IF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD, THEN THE
06:06:29PM REZONING NEEDS TO MOVE -- NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED.
06:06:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL MOVE -- WE CAN'T HEAR IT TONIGHT.
06:06:40PM SO I WOULD -- WE CAN'T HEAR IT BEFORE MAY 8.
06:06:43PM SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE FIRST READING UNTIL
06:06:47PM JUNE 8.
06:06:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
06:06:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:06:53PM SECONDED --
06:06:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I --
06:06:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:06:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ADD AS THE FIRST ITEM SO THE PUBLIC
06:07:01PM DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT ALL NIGHT.
06:07:03PM >> SECOND.
06:07:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DID YOU JUST ADD TO THE MOTION THAT YOU
06:07:07PM ALREADY MADE?
06:07:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS -- YOU ARE IS THE THE SECONDER OF THE
06:07:15PM MOTION.
06:07:15PM DO YOU ACCEPT IT?
06:07:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT.
06:07:19PM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:07:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:07:23PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, MR. SHELBY?
06:07:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO CONFIRM IT IS 5:01 P.M., AND FIRST ON
06:07:29PM THE AGENDA.
06:07:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: 5:01 AND JUNE 8, 2023.
06:07:37PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: AFTER THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
06:07:39PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: COMP PLAN AMENDMENT HAS TO BE FIRST.
06:07:42PM >> AFTER THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
06:07:44PM WILL YOU ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT?
06:07:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:07:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I SECOND IT.
06:07:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:07:53PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WITH AMENDMENTS.
06:07:57PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
06:08:02PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:08:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:08:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:08:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:08:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:08:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:08:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:08:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:08:16PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:08:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:08:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE MORE THING.
06:08:23PM SOMEONE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION JUST EXPLAIN -- I KNOW
06:08:26PM THAT -- NOW WE HAVE JUST VOTED THAT THE APPLICANT HAS TO
06:08:30PM NOTIFY THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE FIRST READING FOR THE ZONING.
06:08:35PM AND YOU SAID THERE IS AN AUTOMATIC NOTIFICATION FOR THE
06:08:38PM HEARING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:08:40PM BUT THAT -- IS THAT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING ON THE
06:08:43PM PLANNING COMMISSION OR -- PLAN OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION
06:08:46PM MEETING.
06:08:47PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: BOTH ITEMS WILL BE RENOTICED.
06:08:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR THE.PUBLIC, YOU KNOW THE DATES, WHETHER
06:08:54PM YOU ARE FOR OR AGAINST MAY 8 AND JUNE 8 AND THE SECOND
06:08:58PM HEARING TWO WEEKS LATER.
06:08:59PM BUT YOU SHOULD BE GETTING NOTICES ON MAY 8 -- FOR THE MAY 8
06:09:04PM HEARING AND SHOULD BE GETTING TWO NOTICES FOR THE JUNE 8
06:09:08PM HEARING.
06:09:08PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: SO COUNCILMAN, SO TYPICALLY -- TYPICALLY
06:09:13PM -- I KNOW THIS IS NOT A TYPICAL NIGHT, BUT TYPICALLY, WE ASK
06:09:17PM YOU TO APPROVE A MOTION TO SET A PLAN AMENDMENT ON -- ON
06:09:22PM YOUR HEARINGS.
06:09:22PM AND SO WHEN YOU SET THAT, THEN THAT PUTS INTO MOTION THE
06:09:26PM NOTICE.
06:09:28PM ONE THING YOU CAN DO IS YOU CAN APPROVE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD
06:09:32PM AND SET THE PLAN AMENDMENT TONIGHT FOR JUNE 8 -- THE
06:09:43PM APPLICANT WOULD -- IF THEY ARE AMENABLE TO IT, WOULD STILL
06:09:46PM NOTICE THAT, BUT THEN IT IS ON YOUR AGENDA AND THE PUBLIC IS
06:09:50PM AWARE THAT THAT MOTION WAS SET THAT THE PLAN AMENDMENT WILL
06:09:53PM BE ON JUNE 8 WITH THE ZONING.
06:09:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE THE -- THE
06:09:58PM --
06:09:59PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: TA/CPA 22-13.
06:10:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: ADOPTION HEARING JUNE 8 AT 5:01 TO PROCEED
06:10:10PM THE ZONING HEARING.
06:10:11PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU.
06:10:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:10:15PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:10:16PM ANY DISCUSSION?
06:10:17PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
06:10:19PM MR. SHELBY, YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING.
06:10:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
06:10:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, YOU WANT TO ADD
06:10:27PM ANYTHING.
06:10:28PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: NO.
06:10:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:10:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:10:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:10:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:10:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:10:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:10:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:10:39PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:10:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:10:43PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
06:10:44PM WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS AS WE CLEAR BOTH
06:10:50PM CHAMBER ROOMS.
06:10:51PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
06:12:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
06:25:07PM ROLL CALL.
06:25:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
06:25:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
06:25:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
06:25:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
06:25:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
06:25:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
06:25:19PM >>CLERK: OFF PHYSICAL QUORUM.
06:25:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE WE START, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MISS
06:25:25PM EDWARDS AND MISS SHARP FOR THEIR HELP IN -- IN INSTRUCTING
06:25:30PM THE PEOPLE THAT CAME DOWN HERE TO SPEAK ON WHAT NEEDED TO BE
06:25:35PM DONE, WHERE TO GO AND TO MANAGE THE PROCEEDINGS CORRECTLY.
06:25:40PM THANK YOU BOTH VERY MUCH FOR THE WORK YOU DID THIS EVENING.
06:25:44PM OUR FIRST HEARING -- AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE
06:25:58PM NUMBER REZ-22-110.
06:26:00PM MISS DOCK.
06:26:01PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
06:26:04PM PROPERTY LOCATED 407 AND 409 SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE.
06:26:09PM THIS APPLICANT IS BEING REPRESENTED BY TYLER HUDSON.
06:26:12PM THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RM-16
06:26:17PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD, RESIDENTIAL DETACHED AND SEMI
06:26:23PM DETACHED USES ON THE SITE.
06:26:24PM BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I WANT TO
06:26:27PM EXPLAIN BRIEFLY THE HISTORY WITH THIS REQUEST.
06:26:29PM SO THE STAFF REPORT THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU DESCRIBES THAT
06:26:32PM THIS APPLICATION WAS BEFORE YOU ON APRIL 14, 2022 AS FILE
06:26:39PM NUMBER REZ 22-19.
06:26:42PM AT THAT TIME, THE CASE WAS HEARD AND REQUEST FROM RM-16
06:26:47PM TO PD FOR THE SAME USES, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND THE SEMI
06:26:51PM DETACHED.
06:26:52PM THAT REQUEST WAS DENIED.
06:26:53PM THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY MODIFIED THEIR PLAN.
06:26:57PM THEY WENT UNDER CONSIDERATION WITH THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
06:27:01PM AND THEY ARE ABLE TO REAPPLY, WHICH IS THE APPLICATION
06:27:04PM BEFORE YOU TODAY.
06:27:05PM THERE WAS AN ERROR IN THE STAFF REPORT, SO I PROVIDED A NEW
06:27:09PM STAFF REPORT TODAY, THIS EVENING, WHICH WAS LAYING THERE.
06:27:12PM I THINK IT HAS BEEN PASSED --
06:27:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT I AM MISS BEING TWO OR THREE COPIES.
06:27:16PM DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE EXTRA COPIES.
06:27:18PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I DO AND THE CLERK ALREADY HAS ONE.
06:27:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN YOU GIVE THAT TO COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:27:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: SO THE CHANGES ARE NOW LISTED ON THE FIRST
06:27:31PM PAGE OF THE STAFF REPORT.
06:27:33PM WITHIN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH.
06:27:35PM THE CHANGES MADE TO THE SITE PLAN ARE AS FOLLOWS: THEY HAVE
06:27:41PM ELIMINATED THE WAIVER THAT WAS REQUESTED FOR THE PARKING
06:27:44PM SPACES REQUIRED.
06:27:46PM THAT WAIVER IS NO LONGER REQUIRED DUE TO CHANGES TO THE CODE
06:27:49PM RECENTLY.
06:27:50PM TEXT AMENDMENTS WHICH ARE RECENTLY ADOPTED.
06:27:53PM AND ALSO, THEY HAVE CHANGED THE ORIENTATION OF THE FRONT
06:27:57PM DOORS, AND THAT IS ON THE END UNITS.
06:27:59PM THOSE DOORS NOW FACE SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE.
06:28:03PM AND THE LAST THING THAT WAS DONE IS THEY ADDED THE SIDEWALKS
06:28:09PM ALONG THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH ON EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
06:28:12PM AND THOSE SIDEWALKS CONNECT FROM EACH UNIT TO THE ADJACENT
06:28:16PM SIDEWALK.
06:28:16PM SO THOSE CHANGES ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU
06:28:20PM THIS EVENING WITH THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU.
06:28:22PM AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO THEY
06:28:26PM CAN DO THEIR PRESENTATION AND I WILL COME BACK AND GIVE MY
06:28:28PM PRESENTATION.
06:28:28PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
06:28:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:28:30PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION
06:28:34PM STAFF.
06:28:34PM THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
06:28:38PM WITHIN THE SOHO NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:28:41PM HYDE PARK IS THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITY TO THE
06:28:45PM BUS ROUTE SUBJECT SITE WITHIN A LEVEL C EVACUATION ZONE.
06:28:49PM HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.
06:28:52PM YOU PROBABLY ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS, BECAUSE IT CAME BEFORE
06:28:54PM YOU PREVIOUSLY AS LACHONE STATED, BUT HERE IT IS ON SOUTH
06:28:58PM ALBANY.
06:28:59PM WE HAVE SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE TO THE WEST OF THE SITE AND
06:29:04PM PLATT STREET TO THE NORTH.
06:29:05PM WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMERCIAL BARS AND RESTAURANTS
06:29:08PM ALONG SOUTH HOWARD AND SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE A VARIETY OF
06:29:13PM HOUSING TYPES.
06:29:13PM A LOT OF TOWN HOUSES.
06:29:15PM TOWN HOUSE DEVELOPMENTS AND SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
06:29:18PM DEVELOPMENT.
06:29:18PM THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
06:29:23PM IT IS RESIDENTIAL-35.
06:29:24PM AND ALONG SOUTH HOWARD AVENUE AND WEST PLATT STREET IS
06:29:32PM COMMUNITY USE 35.
06:29:32PM AND WE SEE THAT FUTURE LAND USE PRIMARILY ALONG OUR
06:29:37PM CORRIDORS.
06:29:38PM SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES PROVIDE -- ENCOURAGES INFILL
06:29:44PM DEVELOPMENT SO WE CAN HAVE AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF LAND FOR
06:29:47PM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO PROVIDE FOR OUR GROWING
06:29:49PM POPULATION.
06:29:50PM AND DUE TO IT BEING IN THE AREA OF THE CITY, TRANSIT OPTIONS
06:29:54PM AND EMPLOYMENT OPTIONS, IT WILL BE SUITABLE FOR INCREASED
06:29:58PM HOUSING CHOICES.
06:29:59PM WE DID THE DENSITY ANALYSIS AND FOUND THAT THE AVERAGE
06:30:02PM EXISTING DENSITY ON THIS PORTION OF SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE IS
06:30:06PM 16.28 UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT BELOW THE MAXIMUM
06:30:11PM THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-35.
06:30:13PM THIS IS APPROVED BEFORE YOU TO THE, THIS WILL WILL BE
06:30:17PM DEVELOPED AT 20 DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE STILL BELOW THE
06:30:20PM RESIDENTIAL-35 WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE
06:30:22PM PLAN HAS PLANNED FOR FOR THIS AREA.
06:30:24PM SO OUR FINDING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS CONSISTENT, WHICH IS
06:30:28PM DIFFERENT THAN HOW YOU SAW IT PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE THE
06:30:31PM APPLICANT WORKED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO LABEL
06:30:34PM ENTRANCES AND PROVIDE SAFE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FROM SOUTH
06:30:38PM ALBANY AVENUE TO THOSE UNITS, WHICH MEET THE INTENT OF THE
06:30:41PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LU POLICY 9.2 .6, WHICH STATES THAT
06:30:46PM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DEVELOPMENT SHALL ENCOURAGE THE
06:30:49PM ORIENTATION OF FRONT DOORS AND SIDEWALKS -- OF THE FRONT
06:30:52PM DOORS, SIDEWALKS AND STREETS.
06:30:54PM SO THE WAY THE FRONT DOORS ARE LABELED -- AND THERE IS A
06:30:58PM CLEAR SIDEWALK PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION FROM SOUTH ALBANY.
06:31:02PM WE FELT THAT MEANT THE INTENT OF THE POLICY AND THE PLANNING
06:31:06PM COMMISSION'S FIND SOMETHING CONSISTENT TONIGHT AS WELL AS
06:31:08PM THE OTHER POLICIES IN THE PLAN ENCOURAGING INFILL
06:31:12PM DEVELOPMENT, ETC.
06:31:13PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:31:14PM THANK YOU.
06:31:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
06:31:18PM THANK YOU.
06:31:18PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
06:31:23PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:31:25PM THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU, THIS PD, WOULD ALLOW THE
06:31:29PM DEVELOPMENT OF SIX UNITS, FOUR TOWN HOME UNITS AND TWO
06:31:33PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNITS ON THE SITE.
06:31:35PM THE LOT CONTAINS 12,845 SQUARE FEET.
06:31:39PM AND I AM GOING TO PUT THE SITE PLAN UP FOR THIS ASK AND JUST
06:31:47PM ZOOM IN A LITTLE.
06:31:48PM THIS IS TO ORIENT YOU.
06:31:51PM THIS IS SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE ON THE PLAN AND THE PROPERTY
06:31:55PM LINE IDENTIFIED IN THE DOTTED LINE.
06:31:57PM HERE ARE THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT HAVE YOUR TWO UNITS EACH ON
06:32:01PM EACH STRUCTURE.
06:32:02PM AND THESE ARE THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNITS.
06:32:05PM SO ACCESS TO THE SITE IS FROM ALBANY.
06:32:09PM THESE ARE THE UNITS THAT HAD THE DOORS WHICH ARE REORIENTED
06:32:13PM TO FACE ALBANY AND THIS IS THE SIDEWALK THAT WAS
06:32:15PM PLACED TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH CONNECTING THE UNITS.
06:32:19PM AND THEN THIS IS THE INTERNAL DRIVE.
06:32:23PM AND MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT FOR THE REQUEST IS 35 FEET.
06:32:29PM AND I HAVE THE ZONING ATLAS TO SHOW -- LET ME ZOOM BACK OUT
06:32:37PM AGAIN.
06:32:37PM SORRY.
06:32:38PM SO THIS IS THE SITE THAT IS LOCATED HERE IDENTIFIED IN RED.
06:32:46PM AND YOU CAN SEE JUST TO ORIENT YOU ON THE SITE, ON THIS MAP,
06:32:51PM THIS IS SWANN AVENUE.
06:32:53PM THIS IS DELEON.
06:32:54PM THIS IS ALBANY AVENUE.
06:32:57PM AND YOU CAN SEE THERE IS -- THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY
06:33:00PM VARIOUS PD ZONINGS AND RM-16, WITH RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
06:33:06PM WHICH IS THE EXISTING AND YOU HAVE AS YOU HEAD TOWARD HOWARD
06:33:09PM AVENUE, THE COMMERCIAL ZONING THAT RUNS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
06:33:13PM AND THEN I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
06:33:16PM SOME THIS IS THE SITE.
06:33:22PM AND THIS IS ALSO ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE.
06:33:29PM THIS IS EAST OF THE SITE.
06:33:32PM SEE THE RESIDENTIAL.
06:33:35PM THIS IS THE VIEW LOOKING SOUTH ON ALBANY.
06:33:40PM THIS IS THE VIEW LOOKING NORTH ON ALBANY.
06:33:45PM AND THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE.
06:33:50PM THE HDRC STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS IT CONSISTENT.
06:34:00PM THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE TOED SITE PLAN BETWEEN
06:34:04PM FIRST AND SECOND READING AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
06:34:08PM QUESTIONS.
06:34:08PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
06:34:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK?
06:34:13PM APPLICANT.
06:34:14PM >> COUNCIL, I NEED TO BE SWORN IN AND I THINK OTHERS THAT
06:34:18PM LIKEWISE --
06:34:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SEE IF WE CAN DO THIS ALL NEW ONE SHOT.
06:34:22PM ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS WHO HAS NOT BEEN SWORN, PLEASE RISE.
06:34:26PM NO ONE ELSE?
06:34:32PM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
06:34:34PM THANK YOU [SWEARING IN]
06:34:41PM >> I DO.
06:34:42PM >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
06:34:43PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:34:45PM TYLER HUDSON.
06:34:46PM MY ADDRESS 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
06:34:49PM WITH ME IS ALEC SCHALER.
06:34:52PM AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RYAN BASHAM TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
06:34:57PM AND OUR ARCHITECT ALEX RIOS.
06:35:00PM A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT LACHONE AND JENNIFER SAID.
06:35:04PM YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE COURIER CITY OSCAWANA
06:35:10PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:35:10PM TWO BLOCKS EAST OF WHAT YOU THINK OF AS THE BAR DISTRICT.
06:35:13PM IN AN AREA WITH A VERY PERVASIVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF
06:35:17PM MULTI FAMILY AND TOWN HOMES THAT ALEC WILL TALK ABOUT IN A
06:35:24PM LITTLE BIT.
06:35:24PM TWO LOTS.
06:35:25PM TWO LOTS WITH A HOME ON THEM.
06:35:28PM TO HAVE EACH OF THOSE LOTS HOUSE THREE UNITS GOING FROM TWO
06:35:33PM FOLKS, TWO FAMILIES TO LIVE TO SIX.
06:35:34PM AS JENNIFER ALLUDED TO YOU LESS THAN THE NINE WHICH IS THE
06:35:37PM MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE UNDER THE CODE.
06:35:41PM IF YOU WENT TO THE NINE, WOULD YOU HAVE TO DO THAT IN A
06:35:43PM APARTMENT CONFIGURATION AND WHAT WE PROPOSED FOR THE SIX
06:35:47PM UNITS IS WHAT WE CAN DO WITHOUT DRASTICALLY CHANGING THE
06:35:50PM MASSING AND LOOK OF THE SITE.
06:35:53PM LACHONE STOLE THE THUNDER ON THIS AND DOING A MUCH BETTER
06:35:57PM JOB OF GOING THROUGH.
06:35:57PM YOU HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
06:35:58PM MIGHT SOUND FAMILIAR.
06:36:01PM WAS BEFORE NEW APRIL.
06:36:02PM DENIED TO AN 4-3 VOTE.
06:36:04PM AN INCONSISTENCY FINDING FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE
06:36:10PM TALKED ABOUT WHETHER TO ADD BEFORE FIRST AND SECOND READING.
06:36:13PM FRONT DOORS -- A LAND USE POLICY UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE
06:36:16PM PLAN, 9.16 THAT SAYS THE FRONTAGES OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES
06:36:20PM SHOULD FACE THE STREET.
06:36:22PM THAT MAKES SOME SENSE.
06:36:23PM OUR PROJECT FELL SHORT OF THAT INITIALLY.
06:36:25PM SO WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
06:36:27PM AND AS TO THE FRONTAGES OF THE UNIT ON ALBANY.
06:36:33PM ENTER FROM ALBANY STRAIGHT IN.
06:36:35PM YOU DON'T WALK UP THE DRIVE AISLE WITH CARS TO THE SIDE FOR
06:36:41PM THE TWO FRONTS UNITS.
06:36:42PM THE OTHER CONCERN IS THE TOWN HOMES WERE A LITTLE BIT
06:36:46PM STRANDED AND TO GET THERE YOU HAVE TO WALK THROUGH THE DRIVE
06:36:49PM AISLE.
06:36:49PM WE ADDED A PERIMETER SIDEWALK TO CONNECT THOSE SO FOLKS WILL
06:36:53PM WALK OFF OF ALBANY TO A PERIMETER SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS TO
06:36:58PM THOSE FRONT DOORS.
06:36:59PM THE FRONT DOORS FACE OUTWARDS AND CAN'T FACE FRONT AND THE
06:37:03PM FRONTAGE UNITS IT THERE.
06:37:05PM ALEX WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT OF HOW WE REORIENTED THE SITE
06:37:10PM AND HOPE TO GAIN YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING.
06:37:13PM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE FOR THE RECORD.
06:37:19PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
06:37:20PM RELATIVELY SIMILAR TO THE PLAN 22-19.
06:37:23PM BUT TYLER MENTIONED THE FRONT TWO UNITS ARE FLIPPED WITH THE
06:37:27PM ENTRY WITH THE RED ARROWS DIRECTLY ACCESSIBLE FROM SOUTH
06:37:31PM ALBANY AND THE PERIMETER SIDEWALKS TO THE NORTH AND TO THE
06:37:34PM SOUTH THAT PROVIDE DIRECT ENTRANCES TO THE ENTRY POINT OF
06:37:39PM EVERY SINGLE UNIT ON THIS SITE.
06:37:41PM LACHONE TOUCHED ON THE SURROUNDING ZONING, RM-16 THAT DOES
06:37:47PM ALLOW MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND RM-16 ZONING MAKES
06:37:52PM DEVELOPMENT OF INFORM ON SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES VERY
06:37:56PM DIFFICULT.
06:37:56PM THE R-35 MEDIUM DENSITY USES.
06:38:00PM YOU SIGH NOT A HARDSHIP SUFFERED ONLY BY OUR SITE AND OUR
06:38:03PM APPLICANT BUT A LOT OF OTHER SITES WITHIN THE SURROUNDING
06:38:06PM AREA AS WELL.
06:38:06PM STAFF DID FIND THIS APPLICATION CONSISTENT ACROSS EVERY
06:38:09PM SINGLE REVIEWING DEPARTMENT INCLUDING THE PLANNING
06:38:12PM COMMISSION AS WELL.
06:38:12PM AND WE ARE REQUESTING ONE WAIVER IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
06:38:16PM APPLICATION, AND THIS IS TOUCHED ON A LITTLE BIT BY TYLER.
06:38:19PM WE HAVE THOSE FRONT TWO UNITS FACING A STREET, WE ARE
06:38:22PM REQUESTING A WAIVER FOR THE REMAINING FOUR UNITS ON-SITE
06:38:25PM GIVEN WE DON'T HAVE THE WIDTH ALONG ALBANY AVENUE.
06:38:28PM EACH UNIT BEING 32 FEET AND WE CAN ONLY FIT SO MANY ALONG
06:38:33PM THE ROAD.
06:38:34PM IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT, WE MADE A FEW DIFFERENT SITE
06:38:37PM IMPROVEMENTS.
06:38:37PM AND THIS GOES WITH THE UNITS FACING THE EXTERNAL.
06:38:41PM SOME CONCERNS WITH THE ORIGINAL REZONING THAT WERE EXPRESSED
06:38:44PM BY THE NEIGHBORS THAT THIS DEVELOPED TURNED ITS SHOULDER ON
06:38:48PM THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND SOMETHING WE DIDN'T WANT.
06:38:50PM WE CAME BACK AND MADE FACADE ENHANCEMENTS AND OUR ARCHITECT
06:38:54PM IS HERE TO SPEAK TO THOSE IF NEEDED BUT THE ELEVATIONS ON
06:38:57PM THE LEFT ARE PART OF THE ORIGINAL REZONING AND THE ZONING IN
06:39:00PM THE DOTTED GREEN LINE WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND IT
06:39:04PM SHOWS A LOT MORE FACADE ARTICULATION THAT REALLY INCLUDED
06:39:08PM THE NEIGHBORING LOTS.
06:39:09PM THE SECOND IMPROVEMENT IS THE PERIMETER SIDEWALK THAT WE
06:39:13PM MENTIONED ALLOWING DIRECT ACCESS FROMM ALBANY TO
06:39:15PM EVERY UNIT ALONG THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN BOUNDARY.
06:39:18PM THE THIRD ONE BEING THE FLIPPING OF THE UNITS.
06:39:21PM FOURTH ONE, PARKING CODE HAS CHANGED.
06:39:23PM NO LONGER REQUESTING A PARKING WAIVER.
06:39:26PM ALL SPACES ARE PROVIDED ON-SITE AND THAT WAS THE CONCERN
06:39:30PM WITH THE ON-STREET PARKING ON ALBANY AND FEAR THAT IT WOULD
06:39:35PM OVERCROWD THE STREET.
06:39:36PM ALL THE PARKING REQUIRED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE PROVIDED
06:39:42PM ON-SITE.
06:39:42PM THE SETBACK WAS THE ISSUE ADDRESSED IN THE ORIGINAL
06:39:46PM REZONING.
06:39:46PM WHAT WE ARE PROPOSE SOMETHING A TEN-FOOT FRONT SETBACK AND I
06:39:50PM MENTIONED EARLIER STRICTER REGULATIONS IN THE RM-16 REQUIRE
06:39:55PM A 25-FOOT SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND, HOWEVER, THAT
06:39:58PM IS A STANDARD REQUIREMENT.
06:39:59PM YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING ROUGHLY 26.5 FEET FROM THE
06:40:03PM EDGE OF ALBANY.
06:40:04PM SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RIGHT-OF-WAY BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE
06:40:07PM AND ROAD.
06:40:08PM ALTHOUGH PROVIDING A 10-FOOT SETBACK ON-SITE EFFECTIVELY
06:40:14PM 26.5 BUFFER FROM THE SITE.
06:40:17PM TYLER ALLUDED AND SO DID JENNIFER, 30 UNITS PER ACRE.
06:40:21PM BASED ON OUR PARCEL SIDE NINE UNITS AND PROPOSING SIX UNITS
06:40:26PM WHICH IS A MODEST PROPOSAL AND DOES FIT IN THE COMMUNITY.
06:40:29PM THE REASON FOR THAT AS ALLUDED TO EARLIER, A TON OF
06:40:33PM MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
06:40:34PM THE RED STARS IN THE SCREEN ARE SHOWING THE TOWN
06:40:39PM HOMES/VILLAS IN THE AREA AND GREEN STARS SHOW MULTIFAMILY
06:40:42PM DEVELOPMENT.
06:40:42PM THE CULMINATION OF THE STARS ON THE SCREEN AND THE SPECIFIC
06:40:46PM AREA SOUTH OF PLATT, EAST OF HOWARD SAFE VERY, VERY
06:40:50PM PREVALENT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA AND A GREAT
06:40:55PM PRECEDENT FOR OUR REQUEST TONIGHT.
06:40:56PM WITH THAT I WILL CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION AND WE ARE
06:40:58PM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:41:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
06:41:02PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:41:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR EITHER OF YOU, IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE
06:41:05PM SAME FOLKS THAT WERE HERE BEFORE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE BACK.
06:41:08PM AND THEY WILL SPEAK IN A MINUTE.
06:41:10PM CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THEIR -- WHAT YOU KNOW THEIR OBJECTIONS
06:41:14PM OF WHAT YOUR RESPONSE IS?
06:41:16PM I KNOW YOU HAVE REBUTTAL BUT GIVE US HIGHLIGHTS OF IT.
06:41:18PM >> SURE, BASED ON THE LETTER THAT WERE SUBMITTED AND WE WILL
06:41:22PM HEAR THEM SPEAK IN A SECOND AND BASED ON THE ORIGINAL
06:41:25PM CONCERNS FROM THE PRIOR APPLICATION, AS I MENTIONED, IT
06:41:27PM SEEMED LIKE THE FACT THIS WAS AN ISOLATED DEVELOPMENT WITH
06:41:30PM THE BUILDINGS FACING INTERNAL AND NOT ENGAGING THE SIDE AND
06:41:35PM ALBANY AVENUE WHICH WE FLIPPED THE UNITS THREE AND SIX TO
06:41:39PM FACE THE STREET WHEN YOU ARE WALKING BY AS A PEDESTRIAN --
06:41:42PM THEY MENTIONED A PEDESTRIAN-HEAVY STREET AND A LOT OF
06:41:46PM BICYCLISTS.
06:41:47PM YOU SEE THE FRONTAGE OF THESE TWO UNITS ALONG ALBANY AND
06:41:51PM ENGAGED WITH TWO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES BEING PLACED ON THE
06:41:54PM PARCELS AND THE THIRD ONE THE TRAFFIC.
06:41:56PM MULTIPLE MENTION OF CONCERN WITH THE PARKING WAIVER THAT IT
06:42:00PM WILL CAUSE OVERFLOW PARKING ON ALBANY AVENUE AND THEY SAID
06:42:04PM WAS ALREADY CROWDED AS IT IS.
06:42:05PM ALL OF THE PARKING REQUIRED IN THE CITY CODE ALL 12 SPACES
06:42:09PM ARE PROVIDED ON-SITE INTERNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
06:42:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: THESE BUILDINGS ARE NOT PROTECTED ANY KIND
06:42:16PM --
06:42:17PM >> THEY ARE IN THE NATIONAL HIS I CAN DISTRICT AND NOT IN
06:42:19PM THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT SO NO HRDC RESTRICTIONS HERE.
06:42:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
06:42:26PM THANK YOU.
06:42:26PM DOES THIS END YOUR PRESENTATION.
06:42:28PM >> YES.
06:42:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE -- IN CHAMBERS THAT
06:42:34PM WISH TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE
06:42:40PM NUMBER REZ-22-110.
06:42:41PM >> GOOD EVENING.
06:42:47PM I WAS SWORN IN.
06:42:48PM MY NAME IS LISA BIRMBAUM.
06:42:54PM AND MY A HUSBAND AND I LIVE AS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS OF THE
06:43:00PM TWO BUNGALOWS THAT WILL BE DEMOLISHED.
06:43:03PM WE DIDN'T EXPECT THIS REZONING PLAN TO BE RESUBMITTED WITHIN
06:43:07PM A YEAR'S TIME.
06:43:08PM WE ARE HERE TO EXPLAIN OUR PERSISTENT DISTRESS OF SUCH AN
06:43:11PM UNSIGHTLY DEVELOPMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:43:13PM THE DEVELOPER GOT TO WORK IN MAY, THE RECORD SHOWS, JUST
06:43:17PM AFTER THE PROJECT'S DENIAL TO GET THE WAIVER FOR THIS EARLY
06:43:21PM HEARING BUT HIS EFFORTS TO IMPROVE THE PLAN WERE SHOCKINGLY
06:43:25PM LIMITED.
06:43:26PM A COUPLE CONCESSIONS NOT FOR A SUITABLE APPEALING DESIGN.
06:43:31PM IGNORED THE MANY ISSUES AND NOW A PETITION AGAINST THE
06:43:35PM BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN SIGNED BY DOZENS.
06:43:37PM THE MORE WE EXAMINE THE MATERIALS, MY HUSBAND AND I WON'T BE
06:43:42PM NEARLY LIVING BESIDE A MASSIVE BUILDING A FEW FEET, BUT
06:43:46PM SITTING EVERY DAY ON OUR SCREENED PORCH ALSO BEHIND AND
06:43:49PM BENEATH IT, THERE WILL ALSO BE A FIVE-FOOT WALL AROUND THE
06:43:54PM BUILDINGS OUTSIDE PRO TEMPERATURES TOWARD THE SIDEWALK
06:43:59PM BLOCKING OUR SOUTHERN VIEW OF THE STREET.
06:44:00PM THE SETBACK LOOKS TO BE LESS THAN THE TEN FEET STATED ON THE
06:44:05PM SITE PLAN AND WE DON'T SEE AN EXCEPTION TO THE 25-FOOT
06:44:09PM REQUIREMENT EXPLAINED ELSEWHERE.
06:44:11PM NO TREES WOULD DIMINISH THE STARK AND CONGRUOUS WITH US OF
06:44:19PM CONCRETE ON OUR HOME AND RESIDENTS ON THE STREET WILL NOT BE
06:44:22PM ABLE TO IGNORE THE EYESORE ON THE BLOCK.
06:44:26PM THOSE LIVING ACROSS THE STREET WILL BE LOOKING DOWN A BROAD
06:44:29PM DRIVEWAY THE SAME WIDTH OF THE STREET CUTTING THE BLOCK IN
06:44:34PM HALF AND ENDING IN A NOT PARTICULARLY PICTURESQUE ALLEY.
06:44:38PM THE CHANCE OF MEETING THE MANY WALLED-IN OCCUPANTS OF THE
06:44:43PM NEW DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE SLIM, GIVEN THAT FOUR OF THE SIX
06:44:47PM UNITS WOULD FACE EACH OTHER ACROSS THE WIDE CONCRETE
06:44:50PM DRIVEWAY.
06:44:51PM FROM THE START, THIS DOOMS ENABLELY CONTACT, A PRIZE QUALITY
06:44:56PM FOR THE COMMUNITIES IN THE TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:44:59PM SMALL PATIOS HAVE BEEN RENAMED ENTRIES IN THE LATEST DRAWING
06:45:04PM BUT WITHOUT A DOUBT LITTLE USED FOR COMINGS AND GOINGS SINCE
06:45:07PM THEY ARE LOCATED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GARAGES.
06:45:10PM OTHERS WILL SPEAK HERE THIS EVENING AND MANY NEIGHBORS HAVE
06:45:13PM SENT LETTERS.
06:45:14PM WE ARE REALLY ENCOURAGED BY THE VITALITY OF OUR COMMUNITY
06:45:17PM AND WE WISH IT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY DESPITE INEVITABLE
06:45:21PM GROWTH.
06:45:22PM THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THE DAMAGING IMPACT THIS PROPOSED
06:45:25PM DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON SO MANY OF US LIVING ON AND NEAR
06:45:29PM ALBANY AVENUE.
06:45:30PM IN CONCLUSION, I JUST WANT TO SAY I LOOKED AT A LOT OF
06:45:33PM DOCUMENTS AND I THOUGHT I SAW IN THIS LATEST FINAL STAFF
06:45:37PM REPORT AN INCONSISTENT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:45:40PM NOT A CONSISTENT.
06:45:41PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT CLARIFIED.
06:45:47PM THANK YOU.
06:45:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:45:48PM >> DONALD BOYLE, 405 SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE.
06:45:57PM MY WIFE HAS ARTICULATED ISSUES THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM
06:46:01PM WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
06:46:04PM AND THE UPSHOT IS THAT THIS DESIGN IS SUBSTANTIALLY
06:46:09PM UNCHANGED FROM WHAT IT WAS IN APRIL.
06:46:11PM IT IS TOO BIG.
06:46:12PM IT MAY TECHNICALLY CONFORM TO THESE -- TO THE GUIDELINES AND
06:46:18PM THE STARS, BUT IT IS TOO BIG.
06:46:21PM IT IS AN ARCHITECTURAL ASSAULT ON THE STREET.
06:46:24PM IT IS BUNKER VERSUS BUNGALOW.
06:46:29PM TOO LARGE AND REQUIRES TOO MANY VARIANCES.
06:46:31PM THERE ARE SOME LARGE TOWNHOUSES ON THE STREET, BUT THEY ARE
06:46:35PM SET BACK FROM THE STREET AND SET BACK ON THE STREET BECAUSE
06:46:38PM IN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, THEY ARE EITHER DUPLEXES OR FOUR
06:46:41PM PLEXES.
06:46:41PM THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO BUILD SIX OF THESE THINGS.
06:46:44PM IT IS JUST TOO MANY.
06:46:46PM THERE IS A 24-FOOT-WIDE STREET, THE DRIVEWAY, RUNNING
06:46:51PM PERPENDICULAR OF ALBANY.
06:46:54PM AS WIDE AS ALBANY AND RUNS THROUGH.
06:46:58PM ESSENTIALLY CUTS THE BLOCK IN HALF.
06:47:01PM THING LOOK ESSENTIALLY LIKE A OFFICE PARK.
06:47:04PM IT INCREASES THE IMPERVIOUS AREA DRAMATICALLY AND WE ALREADY
06:47:10PM KNOW WE HAVE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS ALONG ALBANY.
06:47:13PM NOTHING HAS BEEN ADDRESSED ABOUT THAT.
06:47:16PM PERSONALLY I HAVE PROBLEMS BECAUSE OAK TREES RIGHT ON
06:47:20PM PROPERTY LINES.
06:47:20PM THEY NEED THE VARIANCES TO PUSH THIS THING CLEAR OUT TO THE
06:47:25PM PROPERTY LINE.
06:47:25PM WE HAVE GOT -- SO WE ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED UNNECESSARILY
06:47:29PM JUST BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BUILD IT BIGGER.
06:47:32PM AND WE -- WE ARE, I THINK, WITHOUT ANY CLARITY ABOUT THE
06:47:37PM STORM DRAIN SITUATION FACING POTENTIAL FLOOD HAZARDS IN OUR
06:47:45PM OWN HOME.
06:47:45PM AND ALSO TO BE STRICTLY PERSONAL ABOUT IT, IS GOING TO
06:47:49PM DESTROY OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
06:47:51PM WE LIVED ON ALBANY 30 YEARS.
06:47:54PM BEEN IN THIS HOUSE 25.
06:47:55PM OTHER PEOPLE HAVE CAME ALONG AND TRIED TO BUY THOSE HOUSES.
06:47:59PM LIVE IN THEM.
06:48:00PM FIX THEM OUT.
06:48:01PM FATES DIDN'T ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
06:48:03PM WE UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THIS IS
06:48:07PM OVERKILL.
06:48:07PM THIS IS TOO MUCH.
06:48:08PM THANK YOU.
06:48:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:48:14PM ONE OF THE WOMEN -- ONE OF THE SPEAKERS ASKED FOR A
06:48:17PM CLARIFICATION WHETHER THERE WAS A INCONSISTENCY.
06:48:21PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
06:48:24PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:48:26PM THE FINAL REPORT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THE
06:48:30PM REVISED SITE PLAN HAD A FINDING OF CONSISTENT.
06:48:33PM THE RECOMMENDATION WAS CONSISTENT.
06:48:35PM THE REPORT THAT WAS SENT OUT INITIALLY DID NOT INCLUDE THAT
06:48:38PM LATEST REPORT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:48:41PM SO IT WAS RESENT TO INCLUDE IT.
06:48:44PM SO WHAT THEY MAY HAVE SEEN WAS THE INITIAL SUBMITTAL.
06:48:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:48:50PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: BUT IT IS CONSISTENT FROM PLANNING
06:48:51PM COMMISSION.
06:48:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:48:53PM YES, SIR.
06:48:54PM >> AJ SHRED.
06:48:56PM I HAVE BEEN A NEIGHBOR FOR 24 YEARS IN THIS AREA.
06:49:02PM I DID A PETITION THAT I BELIEVED WAS SENT TO YOU, BUT
06:49:10PM APPARENTLY IT WASN'T.
06:49:11PM I HAD 30 NEIGHBORS SIGN THIS PETITION, ALL AGAINST THIS
06:49:17PM DEVELOPMENT.
06:49:17PM AND BASICALLY BECAUSE IT IS TOO MUCH FOR THE AREA.
06:49:21PM THE AREA WAS DESIGNED 100 YEARS AGO AND HAS A STREETSCAPE,
06:49:31PM AND YOUR HOUSES ARE ALL ON ALIGNMENT.
06:49:34PM NOW A 35-FOOT-STORY BUILDING TEN FEET OUT OF WHACK WITH THE
06:49:39PM REST OF THE STREET.
06:49:40PM RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS BLOCK, WHICH ISN'T INCONSISTENT
06:49:44PM WITH -- WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
06:49:46PM AND WE ARE HERE 100 YEARS LATER AND PLAYING A GAME THAT IS
06:49:52PM LIKE -- IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
06:49:53PM PLUS, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DEVELOPED 1 MOUNTAIN YEARS AGO.
06:49:58PM 100 YEARS AGO IF YOU LOOK AS THESE STREETS, YOU HAD -- YOU
06:50:04PM HAD STREETS -- HOUSES THAT WERE -- HAD ALLEY ACCESS AND
06:50:10PM GARAGES IN THE BACK.
06:50:11PM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET HAD -- HAD DRIVEWAYS.
06:50:15PM NOW YOU HAVE TAKEN THIS AREA AND YOU -- YOU ARE PUTTING --
06:50:22PM YOU ARE PUTTING SIDEWALKS -- YOU ARE PUTTING GARAGES AND --
06:50:26PM AND DRIVEWAYS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
06:50:29PM THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, I BELIEVE, IS IT NOT?
06:50:33PM DOESN'T THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT GO TO HOWARD AVENUE NOW?
06:50:40PM AND THERE IS -- WE HAVE CONSISTENT PARKING -- ON PARKWAYS.
06:50:46PM WE HAVE CONSISTENT BLOCKED SIDEWALKS.
06:50:50PM THE AMERICAN DISABILITIES ACT IS ENFORCED IN A HIS I CAN
06:50:54PM DISTRICT.
06:50:55PM THIS IS STILL A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
06:50:57PM IT IS LABELED THAT WAY.
06:50:59PM THE PLANS YOU HAVE FOR -- FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS
06:51:04PM HAPPENING ARE -- GIVE YOU NO IDEA OF WHAT IS -- WHAT IS
06:51:10PM HAPPENING AS FAR AS WHERE YOUR SIDEWALKS ARE, WHERE -- WHERE
06:51:13PM THE -- WHERE THE -- WHERE -- WHERE YOUR PARKING IS.
06:51:21PM AND THE CITY PLANNING AND CITY COUNCIL ARE UNAWARE OF THE
06:51:28PM HAZARD OF THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT AS THE STREETS.
06:51:33PM THE CITY DEVELOPMENT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OF SWANN HAS BEEN
06:51:37PM CREATED -- STREET PARKING PROBLEM.
06:51:40PM TOO MANY APARTMENTS -- TOO MANY APARTMENTS AND NOT ENOUGH
06:51:45PM PARKING, PLUS CODE ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT -- DOES NOT COMPETE
06:51:51PM -- COMPLETE SIDEWALKS IN THESE DEVELOPMENTS.
06:51:53PM THEY -- THEY HAVE NO FUNDS FOR SUCH EXPENDITURES.
06:51:58PM WE RECOMMEND ALL DEVELOPMENTS STOP UNTIL THE CITY CAN
06:52:01PM CORRECT THE PAST DEVELOPER ROARS.
06:52:03PM WE RECOMMEND THE CITY CORRECT THESE MISSING SIDEWALKS AND
06:52:08PM STRUCTURE.
06:52:08PM WE ALSO RECOMMEND THE DEVELOPERS AND CODE DEPARTMENT BE
06:52:11PM RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE ERRORS.
06:52:13PM AND THAT RECORDS -- AND RECORDS KEPT ON FINES CAN BE LEVIED.
06:52:20PM SO INCOMPETENT DEVELOPERS AND CODE EMPLOYEES ARE NOT ALLOWED
06:52:25PM TO DEVELOP AND WORK IN CODE DEPARTMENTS.
06:52:29PM AND ON PAGE -- ON ITEM 17, PAGE 1 --
06:52:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:52:35PM >> POST DEVELOPMENT IMPERVIOUS AREA --
06:52:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOUR IS UP.
06:52:41PM THANK YOU, SIR.
06:52:42PM >> THE -- THE DRIVEWAY THAT YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE 12 VEHICLES
06:52:48PM PARKING THERE -- AND YOU HAVE A DRAINAGE PROBLEM.
06:52:51PM YOU HAVE A SINKHOLE AT THE CORNER OF -- OF --
06:52:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:52:57PM YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP.
06:52:59PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:53:00PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:53:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I GET SOMEBODY FROM -- I THINK WHAT HE
06:53:12PM WAS REFERRING TO FROM THE BEGINNING THAT THE AREA IS IN THE
06:53:15PM SAME PLANNING DISTRICT AS THE PROPERTIES NORTH OF IT.
06:53:18PM CAN SOMEBODY JUST EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THE PLANNING
06:53:21PM DISTRICT MEANS AND ALSO, ANYBODY THERE TO TESTIFY OF A
06:53:25PM SINKHOLE IN THAT AREA?
06:53:29PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:53:30PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES THAT THIS IS AN CENTRAL TAMPA
06:53:36PM PLANNING DISTRICT, ALTHOUGH I WILL CLARIFY DOWNTOWN IS
06:53:41PM INCLUDED IN THAT.
06:53:42PM BUT IT IS NOT REGULATORY.
06:53:44PM WELL, IT IS, BUT DOESN'T HAVE -- LIKE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
06:53:49PM REGULATIONS.
06:53:50PM NOT -- AM I ANSWERING THE QUESTION CORRECTLY?
06:53:53PM SO IT IS --
06:53:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST IN THE SAME PLANNING AREA BUT DOESN'T
06:53:57PM FOLLOW THE SAME RULES AS DOWNTOWN.
06:53:58PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU.
06:54:00PM THAT IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY.
06:54:02PM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, YES, EXACTLY.
06:54:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYBODY THAT KNOW ABOUT A SINKHOLE IN THAT
06:54:07PM AREA?
06:54:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE -- I AM SORRY, MA'AM, ARE YOU ASKING FOR
06:54:15PM SOMEONE TO CLARIFY THAT?
06:54:17PM BECAUSE IF THAT THE CASE, I AM SURE WE CAN FIND OUT THAT AND
06:54:20PM MOVE ON TO THE NEXT CASE -- AND COME BACK TO THIS ONE.
06:54:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM CURIOUS IF ANYBODY CAN -- IF YOU DON'T
06:54:29PM KNOW DOESN'T MEAN IT IS NOT THERE, BUT DOES ANYBODY KNOW
06:54:32PM ABOUT THAT.
06:54:32PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT TOWARD
06:54:35PM NATION.
06:54:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE.
06:54:38PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: WE DON'T HAVE STAFF TO TESTIFY TO THAT,
06:54:42PM WHETHER IT EXISTS OR NOT.
06:54:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS YOUR CHOICE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:54:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE WILL JUST CONTINUE ON WITH PUBLIC
06:54:53PM COMMENT, THANK YOU.
06:54:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
06:54:55PM >> HI, MY NAME IS DARA SIMON.
06:54:58PM I LIVED AT 410 SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE FOR OVER 20 YEARS.
06:55:03PM MY TOWNHOUSE IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE -- FROM
06:55:08PM 407 AND 409 SOUTH ALBANY.
06:55:11PM I AM OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED REZONING OF 407, AND 409 SOUTH
06:55:17PM ALBANY FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: THE APPLICANT IS
06:55:20PM DEMOLISHING TWO HISTORIC 1920s BUNGALOWS TO CONSTRUCT SIX
06:55:26PM TOWN HOUSES.
06:55:27PM THESE BUNGALOWS ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE HYDE PARK NATIONAL
06:55:31PM HIS TORIC DISTRICT.
06:55:33PM IN ADDITION, THE REDUCTION OF THE SETBACKS ON ALL SIDES ARE
06:55:36PM WELL OUT OF CONFORMITY WITH THE REST OF BLOCK.
06:55:39PM NO OTHER STRUCTURE ON THE STREET HAS SUCH SETBACKS.
06:55:42PM THE ONLY REASON FOR THE SETBACKS IS FOR THE APPLICANT TO
06:55:46PM MAXIMIZE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE UNITS AND GET A DOLLAR
06:55:51PM OUT OF THE PROPERTY.
06:55:52PM THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY, 24 FEET WIDE, IF THAT GETS BUILT, I
06:55:58PM WILL LOOK DOWN A 24-FEET DRIVEWAY FROM THE BACK ALLEY TO THE
06:56:04PM FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
06:56:04PM I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS OF MY SAFETY AND THE SAFETY OF MY
06:56:08PM NEIGHBORS AS A RESULT OF HAVING THAT DIRECT ACCESS TO THE
06:56:11PM BACK ALLEY.
06:56:11PM I FULLY RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR REDEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
06:56:15PM THE TOWN HOUSE I BUILT AS A RESULT OF REDEVELOPMENT OF A
06:56:19PM DILAPIDATED HOUSE.
06:56:21PM THE DIFFERENCE IS, THAT THE DESIGN OF MY TOWNHOUSE FITS WITH
06:56:25PM THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE STREET.
06:56:26PM AND CONTRIBUTES TO THE CHARM OF THE AREA.
06:56:30PM PART OF THE REASON I CHOSE THE LOCATION THAT I DID BECAUSE
06:56:34PM OF THE CHARACTER OF THE STREET AND HISTORIC BUNGALOWS THERE.
06:56:37PM TO PUT UP THESE THREE-STORY CONCRETE SLABS WITH ABSOLUTELY
06:56:42PM ZERO ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES IN PLACE OF THOSE BUNGALOWS IS A
06:56:48PM TRAVESTY.
06:56:49PM SINCE THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION OF REZONING WAS DENIED IN
06:56:53PM APRIL, THE APPLICANT HAS TAKEN MINIMAL STEPS TO RECTIFY THE
06:56:58PM PROBLEMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.
06:56:59PM IN ADDITION ME AND SEVERAL OF MY NEIGHBORS WERE BACK HERE IN
06:57:02PM DECEMBER AND WITH NO NOTICE TO US, THE APPLICANT ASKED FOR
06:57:06PM AN EXTENSION OF THE APPLICATION.
06:57:08PM IN CONCLUSION, I AM ASKING TO YOU PROTECT THE CHARACTER OF
06:57:12PM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND STOP THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
06:57:15PM THERE ARE TOO MANY HISTORIC BUNGALOWS THAT ARE BEING TORN
06:57:20PM DOWN TO MAKE ROOM FOR THESE MASSIVE MULTIUNIT STRUCTURE THAT
06:57:24PM HAVE DIMINISHED THE AESTHETIC QUALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:57:28PM IF YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE THE REQUEST OF THE RESIDENTS ON THE
06:57:31PM STREET.
06:57:31PM AT THE VERY MINIMUM, ASK THE APPLICANT TO REDO THE DESIGN
06:57:35PM AND LIMIT THE SIZE AND SCALE OF THOSE TOWN HOUSES.
06:57:40PM THANK YOU.
06:57:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:57:41PM >> HELLO.
06:57:49PM MY NAME IS TAMARA HINE.
06:57:52PM 410 SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE.
06:57:54PM I AM DARR\A'S NEIGHBOR.
06:57:56PM WE TOO LIVE IN A TOWNHOUSE, A QUADRIPLEX WITH TWO UNITS UP
06:58:01PM FRONT.
06:58:02PM SPANISH STYLE TO MATCH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:58:03PM THE PINK US IN THE PICTURE.
06:58:06PM I MOVED IN 20 YEARS AGO THE SAME TIME THAT DARRA DID.
06:58:09PM I MOVED IN FOR THE GORGEOUS VIEW OF THE BUNGALOWS ACROSS THE
06:58:13PM STREET.
06:58:14PM IMAGINE MY SURPRISE WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS SOLD A WHILE BACK
06:58:17PM AND DEVELOPMENT WAS COMING IN.
06:58:18PM I AM NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE
06:58:21PM DEVELOPMENT TO REMAIN WITHIN CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:58:23PM WE WORK VERY HARD MAKING THIS INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
06:58:27PM IT CAN BE DIFFICULT.
06:58:30PM THERE ARE HOUSES ON THE STREET FURTHER DOWN THAT LOOK LIKE
06:58:34PM THEY NEED SOME UPKEEP, MAYBE SOME TEAR DOWNS AND SOME
06:58:38PM REPLACEMENTS.
06:58:39PM ONE OF THE OTHER HOUSES -- I SHOULD SAY ONE OF THE OTHER
06:58:42PM DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU APPROVED NOT TOO LONG AGO ACTUALLY IS
06:58:45PM GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE POSITIVE ADDITIONS TO THE
06:58:49PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:58:49PM IT WILL BRING CHARACTER TO IT AND FIT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF
06:58:53PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE WANT TO KEEP.
06:58:55PM WHEN I LOOK AT THE DESIGN THAT THIS APPLICANT HAS BROUGHT
06:58:59PM FORWARD, I THINK MY MAJOR CONCERN WAS THE FACT THAT YOU GOT
06:59:04PM BASICALLY SIX UNITS FACING EACH OTHER.
06:59:08PM AND NOT REALLY FACING THE STREET SIDE.
06:59:11PM TO ME, IT REMINDS ME OF MY CORPORATE PAST.
06:59:16PM LIVING IN CORPORATE HOUSING.
06:59:19PM IT IS NOT VERY OPEN AND FRIENDLY TO A NEIGHBORHOOD WE ARE
06:59:22PM TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO RAISE THEIR FAMILIES IN.
06:59:25PM I MEAN, WE ARE OUT HERE BASICALLY TRYING TO PUT UP CHRISTMAS
06:59:30PM LIGHTS.
06:59:30PM TRYING TO DO HALLOWEEN, RIGHT.
06:59:32PM TRYING TO MAKE THINGS MORE FRIENDLY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT,
06:59:35PM TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IS JUST FILLED WITH A BUNCH
06:59:42PM OF YUPPIES MANY YEARS AGO.
06:59:43PM THAT IS WHY I AM HOPING YOU WILL GIVE SOME VERY STRONG
06:59:47PM CONSIDERATION AND AND NOT BASICALLY RUBBER STAMP THIS.
06:59:52PM I AM AFRAID IF WE DON'T GET THIS STOPPED NOW, WHAT RESOURCE
06:59:57PM ARE WE GOING TO HAVE?
06:59:59PM IT IS REALLY GOING TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE
07:00:09PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:00:09PM WE KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS WELL.
07:00:13PM TO LIVE IN THE 407 AND 409 PROPERTIES TO BE OUR FRIENDLY
07:00:18PM NEIGHBORS AND NOT A CLOSED-OFF SITUATION WHERE THEY DRIVE
07:00:21PM THEIR VEHICLES UP THIS FAKE ROAD, RIGHT, DOWN THE MIDDLE AND
07:00:24PM NEVER SAY A WORD TO US.
07:00:26PM SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
07:00:29PM I APPRECIATE IT.
07:00:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:00:31PM MR. SHELBY.
07:00:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A QUICK REMINDER TO COUNCIL AND THE
07:00:38PM PUBLIC THAT PETITIONS IN QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS DO NOT
07:00:44PM CONSTITUTE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
07:00:46PM JUST A REMINDER OF THAT.
07:00:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:00:49PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
07:00:53PM IS THERE --
07:00:54PM >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
07:00:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
07:00:59PM ITEM NUMBER 4.
07:01:00PM MR. HUDSON, REBUTTAL.
07:01:02PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:01:03PM TYLER HUDSON, FOR THE RECORD.
07:01:05PM YOU JUST HEARD FROM NEIGHBORS WHO OBVIOUSLY LOVE THEIR
07:01:09PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:01:09PM AND FOR GOOD REASON.
07:01:11PM IT IS A VERY GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:01:13PM A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE WOULD LIKE THE
07:01:16PM OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN.
07:01:17PM IT IS A VERY WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:01:19PM A VERY BIKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:01:21PM BUT THERE AREN'T ENOUGH UNITS AVAILABLE -- THERE AREN'T
07:01:25PM ENOUGH SUPPLY OF HOUSING TO DEAL WITH ALL OF THE DEMAND OF
07:01:29PM FOLKS WANT TO LIVE IN THESE FRIENDLY, WELCOMING
07:01:33PM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS PARTICULAR STREET IS.
07:01:36PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO THIS COUNCIL HAS INHERITED THAT UP
07:01:39PM TO NINE UNITS OF DEVELOPMENT CAN GO HERE.
07:01:42PM THAT WAS THE FORESIGHT SAYING GIVEN WHERE THIS LOCATION IS,
07:01:45PM PROBABLY SHOULD BE MORE THAN JUST ONE HOME PER LOT.
07:01:48PM WE WILL SAY THERE COULD BE UP TO NINE UNITS ON THESE TWO
07:01:51PM LIGHTS COMBINED AND AGAIN WE ARE ASKING FOR SIX.
07:01:54PM THERE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANT TO KNOW.
07:01:56PM FIRST A LOT OF CONCERNS OR OPINIONS ABOUT DESIGN.
07:01:59PM DESIGN IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL NOR THIS CITY HAS
07:02:03PM CHOSEN TO REGULATE ON THIS LAND.
07:02:05PM THIS COUNCIL KNOWS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY DESIGN IS
07:02:08PM HEAVILY REGULATED.
07:02:10PM IT IS NOT REGULATED HERE.
07:02:11PM THIS IS IN THE NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
07:02:14PM FROM A LOCAL PERSPECTIVE, NOT RELEVANT.
07:02:16PM NOT IN A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
07:02:19PM NO ELEVATED HISTORICAL PROTECTION HERE.
07:02:21PM COUNCIL CAN CHANGE THAT.
07:02:22PM COUNCIL DID THAT WITH THE DOBEY FOOTPRINT.
07:02:28PM COUNCIL HAS NOT DONE THAT HERE.
07:02:31PM WE SHOWED AND PUT EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD THE SETBACKS
07:02:34PM PROPOSED 10 FEET NOT FAR OFF FROM THE 12, 14 WHICH IS THE
07:02:39PM BLOCK AVERAGING.
07:02:40PM WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL
07:02:45PM PROCEEDING.
07:02:45PM YOU ARE NOT WEARING JUDICIAL ROBE AND ONLY ONE YOU HAS A
07:02:49PM GAVEL, BUT THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THERE ARE ELEVATED
07:02:56PM STANDARDS WHAT COUNTS AS EVIDENCE AND WHAT DOESN'T.
07:02:58PM THINK OF LADY JUSTICE, RIGHT, AS A METAPHOR OF JEW DISH
07:03:05PM SMALL PROCEEDING AND SCALES.
07:03:07PM ONE HAND ON THE PART OF THIS PETITION, EXPERTS OF FROM THE
07:03:12PM PLANNING COMMISSION WHO FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
07:03:13PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:03:14PM THE FIRST REQUIREMENT NOT ONLY LOCAL LAW BUT STATE STATUTE.
07:03:18PM SECOND REQUIREMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
07:03:20PM REGULATIONS.
07:03:21PM EVERY SINGLE AGENCY -- I THINK THIS NUMBERS A DOZEN THAT
07:03:24PM REVIEWED THIS APPLICANT HAVE FOUND IT CONSISTENT.
07:03:27PM CONSISTENT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, INTERPRETATION OF
07:03:30PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AND
07:03:32PM GROWTH MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENTS, INTERPRETATION OF THE LAND
07:03:36PM DEVELOPMENT CODE.
07:03:36PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE BELIEVE TO FURNISH INTO THE RECORD
07:03:41PM AND A MEMO THE COMPLIANCE OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
07:03:46PM PURPOSE REQUIREMENTS AND GAVE THE PRESENTATION BEFORE YOU
07:03:48PM THIS EVENING.
07:03:49PM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCALE, YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS WHO
07:03:52PM EXPRESS SOME VERY STRONG AND WELL-INTENTIONED AND BE A
07:03:56PM HEARTFELT OPINIONS OF THINGS LIKE THE BULK OF SITE AND
07:04:00PM DESIGN OF THE SITE, POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THEIR QUALITY OF
07:04:02PM LIFE.
07:04:03PM WE CERTAINLY HOPE DON'T HAVE THIS IF WERE TO BE APPROVED.
07:04:06PM THOSE ARE ALL FINE TO BRING BEFORE NEW PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT
07:04:12PM THAT IS NOT SUBSTANTIAL OR COMPETENT EVIDENCE.
07:04:15PM THE PURPOSE OF PUBLIC NOTICE IS NOT TO POLL THE
07:04:19PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:04:19PM IF THAT WAS THE REASON, WE CAN MAKE -- MAKE THESE DECISIONS
07:04:23PM ON FACEBOOK OR NEXT DOOR.
07:04:24PM THE PURPOSE BEHIND COMPETENT -- BEHIND THE PUBLIC NOTICE IS
07:04:29PM TO GIVE FOLKS NOTICE AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD.
07:04:32PM BUT UNDER THE LAWS THAT GOVERN THESE TYPE OF DECISIONS WHAT
07:04:36PM HAS TO BE BROUGHT FORTH IS SUBSTANTIAL AND COMPETENT
07:04:40PM EVIDENCE.
07:04:40PM AND WITH RESPECT TO IT THE NEIGHBORS AND WITH RESPECT TO
07:04:43PM THIS COUNCIL, THAT IS NOT WHAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD IN PUBLIC
07:04:46PM COMMENT.
07:04:47PM THERE WERE SOME OPINION.
07:04:48PM BUT NOT EVIDENCE.
07:04:49PM I BELIEVE THAT WHEN YOU WEIGH THE BALANCE WITH THE
07:04:53PM CONSISTENCY DETERMINATION FROM YOUR STAFF AT THE PLANNING
07:04:56PM COMMISSION AND FROM YOUR STAFF OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
07:05:01PM MANAGEMENT, THE PRESENTATION WE GAVE, WE BELIEVE THERE IS
07:05:03PM SUBSTANTIAL AND COMPETENT EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD TO SUPPORT
07:05:06PM AN APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION.
07:05:08PM I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE IS ANY SUBSTANTIAL OR COMPETENT
07:05:11PM EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT A DENIAL.
07:05:12PM WITH THAT I TAKE YOU FOR YOUR TIME ESPECIALLY HEARING THIS
07:05:16PM FOR THE SECOND TIME IN ONE YEAR AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
07:05:18PM QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
07:05:20PM THANKS.
07:05:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
07:05:27PM MISS DOCK.
07:05:27PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, COUNCIL.
07:05:29PM THANK YOU, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:05:33PM COUNCIL, IN LOOKING AT THE PLAN AND SEEING THE REDESIGN,
07:05:36PM THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL WAIVER THAT IS REQUIRED ON THIS SITE
07:05:39PM PLAN WHICH COULD BE ADDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READ
07:05:43PM GOING IT IS APPROVED THIS EVENING.
07:05:45PM AND THAT IS A WAIVER TO 27162 FOR THE BUILDING SEPARATION.
07:05:49PM THE REQUIREMENT IS 15 FEET.
07:05:51PM SO THE WAIVER WOULD BE ADDED TO THE PLAN IN BETWEEN FIRST
07:05:55PM AND SECOND READING.
07:05:56PM AND I WANTED TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
07:05:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:06:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS IT?
07:06:02PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: A WAIVER FOR THE BUILDING SEPARATION.
07:06:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS THE SETBACK.
07:06:05PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: WITH THE TWO DOORS, I BELIEVE IT IS AT 7.
07:06:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
07:06:11PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: 7.6.
07:06:13PM THIS IS THE AREA HERE.
07:06:14PM I CAN PUT IT ON THE -- ON THE ELMO FOR YOU.
07:06:17PM SO YOU HAVE THE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE LOCATED HERE --
07:06:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, MISS DOCK, IF YOU CAN --
07:06:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I.T., IF WE CAN PLEASE HAVE THE ELMO.
07:06:31PM THANK YOU.
07:06:31PM WE ARE GOOD.
07:06:32PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: SO THIS IS -- THIS IS UNIT TWO, AND THEN
07:06:36PM UNIT THREE IS HERE.
07:06:37PM SO THIS IS THE -- THE TWO BUILDINGS, BUT THESE ARE THE ENTRY
07:06:42PM -- THE POINTS OF ENTRY THAT ARE ON EACH SIDE.
07:06:45PM SO THEY ARE REDUCING IT FOR THE -- FOR THE SEPARATION
07:06:50PM BETWEEN THE TWO.
07:06:50PM AND THEN THE SAME WILL APPLY FOR THESE TWO BUILDINGS -- THE
07:06:55PM BUILDING SEPARATION.
07:06:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DOCK -- -- MISS DOCK, MY QUESTION WAS
07:07:11PM -- IS THAT SEPARATION IS SMALLER THAN THE 15 FOOT THAT MOST
07:07:18PM FIRE DEPARTMENTS WOULD REQUIRE.
07:07:19PM BUT YET FIRE RESCUE FOUND THAT CONSISTENT -- FOUND THE SITE
07:07:25PM PLAN CONSISTENT?
07:07:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT, CHAIRMAN CITRO, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND
07:07:32PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:07:32PM THAT REQUIREMENT IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE BUILDING
07:07:35PM SEPARATION AND ANOTHER BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENT.
07:07:38PM AND THE SEPARATION IS FIVE FEET.
07:07:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, YOU MISS DOCK.
07:07:42PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:07:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU JUST TELL US WHAT COULD BE BUILT
07:07:47PM HERE BY RIGHT VERSUS WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING?
07:07:52PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: RIGHT NOW THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY
07:07:56PM ZONED RM-16 WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND ALLOW FOR
07:08:00PM EITHER MULTIFAMILY UNITS FOR RESIDENTIAL, ALTHOUGH YOU SEE
07:08:04PM SOME OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY THAT IS SURROUNDING, BUT IT HAS
07:08:07PM THE MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICT ON IT, EVEN A SINGLE-FAMILY
07:08:12PM DETACHED.
07:08:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MANY UNITS CAN BE BUILT WITHOUT GETTING
07:08:16PM APPROVALS?
07:08:17PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: HAS THE FUTURE LAND USE OF R-35.
07:08:21PM SO 30 UNITS PER ACRE AND THERE ARE 20 UNITS PER ACRE.
07:08:26PM SO A MAXIMUM -- IF I CAN GET MY REPORT FOR A SECOND, PLEASE.
07:08:30PM NINE UNITS IS THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF UNITS.
07:08:36PM THAT COULD BE BUILT ON THE SITE WITH THE CURRENT ZONING.
07:08:42PM BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO MEET RM-16 ZONING STANDARDS WITH THE
07:08:49PM SETBACKS AS MENTIONED AS I THINK TYLER PRESENTED -- OR
07:08:53PM EITHER ALEX.
07:08:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
07:08:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:08:58PM THANK YOU.
07:09:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:09:05PM >> SECOND.
07:09:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, ARE YOU THERE?
07:09:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN YOU HEAR ME?
07:09:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, WE CAN.
07:09:14PM YOU ARE THERE.
07:09:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN YOU SEE ME?
07:09:16PM CAN YOU GUYS SEE ME?
07:09:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, YOU ARE GOOD.
07:09:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, I'M HERE.
07:09:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST -- AFTER MISS DOCK'S COMMENTS, I
07:09:26PM WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PETITIONER HAD NOTHING MORE TO
07:09:29PM ADD.
07:09:30PM >> NOTHING MORE FROM THE APPLICANT, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
07:09:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:09:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:09:39PM ALL IN FAVOR.
07:09:40PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
07:09:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL TAKE A SHOT.
07:09:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:09:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD -- I WOULD MOVE TO DENY REZ-22-110
07:09:57PM FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 407 AND 409 SOUTH ALBANY TO MEET
07:10:05PM THE BURDEN OF PROOF OF COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT
07:10:10PM THE DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONED AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS
07:10:13PM CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE APPLICANT'S
07:10:15PM FAILURE TO MEET THE BURDEN OF PROOF OF THE REQUESTED WAIVER.
07:10:19PM THE PROPOSED REZONING DOES NOT COMPLY WITH LAND USE 9.3.8
07:10:24PM WHICH REQUIRES NEW RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS TO BE MINIMALLY
07:10:27PM DISRUPTIVE TO ADJACENT AREAS.
07:10:30PM PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IN THE SITE PLAN DOES NOT PROMOTE AND
07:10:33PM ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION,
07:10:36PM CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING USES.
07:10:39PM WE HEARD COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE FROM THE COMMUNITY
07:10:43PM ABOUT HOW THE -- HOW THE WAIVERS EFFECT THE -- THE
07:10:48PM CONSISTENCY AND CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:10:51PM AND WOULD HAVE A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:10:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:10:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:11:00PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
07:11:02PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:11:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
07:11:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:11:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:11:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
07:11:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
07:11:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
07:11:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
07:11:23PM >>CLERK: MOTION DID NOT PASS WITH MIRANDA, GUDES, VIERA,
07:11:32PM MANISCALCO, CITRO VOTING NO.
07:11:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:11:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:11:39PM MY MOTION WOULD THEN BE TO APPROVE THIS PLANNED
07:11:43PM DEVELOPMENT PD RESIDENTIAL ZONING WITH THE WAIVERS AS
07:11:45PM STATED.
07:11:46PM THIS IS REZ-22-110.
07:11:49PM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
07:11:52PM CONSIDERATION IN THE GENERALITY VICINITY OF 407 AND 409
07:11:57PM SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
07:12:01PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING
07:12:05PM DISTRICT RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED
07:12:11PM DEVELOPMENT.
07:12:12PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:12:15PM I WILL IF SAY FINDINGS OF FACTS.
07:12:17PM WE FOUND CONSISTENCY.
07:12:21PM IN COMPLIANT WITH APPLICABLE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE
07:12:26PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
07:12:29PM REPORT.
07:12:30PM CONSISTENT WITH 9.2.1 AND 9.7.1 WHICH ENCOURAGE INFILL
07:12:36PM DEVELOPMENT FOR AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF LAND FOR RESIDENTIAL
07:12:39PM DEVELOPMENT TO PROVIDE FOR TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION.
07:12:41PM ALSO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 27-136,
07:12:45PM THE PURPOSE OF THE SITE PLAN CONTROL DISTRICT, FOR EXAMPLE,
07:12:48PM PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN PROMOTES OR
07:12:52PM ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN CHARACTER,
07:12:56PM COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:12:58PM AND THEN THE WAIVERS IN COMPLIANCE WITH 27-139 NUMBER 4,
07:13:04PM SUCH THAT IT IS UNIQUE AND THEREFORE IN NEED OF A WAIVER.
07:13:08PM THE REQUESTED WAIVER WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE OR
07:13:13PM INJURY THE RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY EFFECTED BY THE WAIVER.
07:13:16PM THAT INCLUDES THE WAIVERS THAT ARE STATED.
07:13:18PM AND IS THERE A REVISION SHEET?
07:13:20PM A REVISION SHEET AS WELL.
07:13:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SAITH MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:13:25PM IS THERE A SECOND?
07:13:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
07:13:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:13:31PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
07:13:33PM ROLL CALL.
07:13:34PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:13:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOING -- I AM GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS
07:13:42PM JUST BECAUSE THE WAIVER DOES IMPACT THE -- THE FEEL OF THE
07:13:49PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:13:49PM AND I JUST -- I JUST -- THE INTERNAL COURTYARD THING, I JUST
07:13:57PM -- DOESN'T ENCOURAGE ENABLELINESS.
07:14:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:14:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SAME THING.
07:14:04PM THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS SHOWN AND TESTIMONY SHOWN POSSIBLE TO
07:14:09PM BUILD MULTIFAMILY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT BEING OUTSIDE
07:14:12PM THE CHARACTER AND FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH THIS
07:14:14PM PROJECT DOES, SO I WILL BE VOTING NO AS WELL.
07:14:17PM THANK YOU.
07:14:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
07:14:20PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:14:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:14:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:14:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:14:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
07:14:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
07:14:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:14:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:14:37PM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSED WITH HURTAK AND CARLSON VOTING NO.
07:14:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NUMBER REZ 22-77.
07:14:56PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES.
07:14:57PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
07:14:58PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:15:00PM COUNCIL, ITEM 6 -- SORRY, IF WE CAN HAVE THE DATE OF THE
07:15:06PM SECOND READING.
07:15:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND READING -- EXCUSE US.
07:15:10PM EXCUSE US, MA'AM.
07:15:12PM ONE SECOND, PLEASE.
07:15:14PM >>CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE FEBRUARY 2,
07:15:19PM 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
07:15:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:15:23PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
07:15:27PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:15:30PM ITEM NUMBER 6 IS REZ-22-27.
07:15:34PM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 310 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
07:15:38PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTED BY STEVE MICHELINI.
07:15:40PM TO REZONE FROM RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD, PLANNED
07:15:46PM DEVELOPMENT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USE ON-SITE.
07:15:50PM I WILL TURN OVER TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE REPORT AND I
07:15:53PM WILL COME BACK AND GIVE THE REPORT.
07:15:54PM THANK YOU.
07:15:55PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION
07:15:58PM STAFF.
07:15:59PM IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
07:16:03PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE URBAN HEIGHTS.
07:16:05PM ROBERT C. GARDNER PARK IS THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL.
07:16:11PM TRANSIT SITE SERVED BY HART ROUTE 15 AND IN EVACUATION
07:16:17PM ZONE E.
07:16:18PM I WILL NOW SHOW AN AERIAL.
07:16:20PM SO IT IS LOCATE ALONG WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
07:16:23PM TO THE NORTH WE HAVE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND THE LLAMA
07:16:27PM DONNA SCHOOL.
07:16:28PM WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE ON THIS SEGMENT.
07:16:31PM SOME SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND ALSO TWO-FAMILY DWELLING
07:16:35PM UNITS HERE.
07:16:36PM A MIXTURE OF HOUSING TYPES.
07:16:38PM AND WE ARE TYPICALLY RESIDENTIAL SOUTH OF WEST COLUMBUS
07:16:41PM DRIVE.
07:16:42PM ALTHOUGH THE FUTURE LAND USE -- I APOLOGIZE, FUTURE LAND USE
07:16:48PM IS RESIDENTIAL-35 WHICH IS A VERY RESIDENTIAL FUTURE LAND
07:16:52PM USE CATEGORY.
07:16:53PM TO THE NORTH IS RESIDENTIAL-20 IN THE BROWN, WHICH IS A
07:16:57PM LITTLE BIT LOWER.
07:16:58PM THE BLUE IS PUBLIC, SEMI PUBLIC AND RECOGNIZING THE SCHOOL
07:17:02PM TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
07:17:05PM THE PINK IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
07:17:08PM YOU SEE THE PATTERN AT NORTH MASSACHUSETTS AND NORTH OLA
07:17:14PM HERE WOULD TRANSITION TO MORE COMMERCIAL USES BECAUSE THAT
07:17:17PM IS WHAT THE FUTURE LAND USE ALLOWS.
07:17:21PM THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU IS FOR RESIDENTIAL TO BE CONSISTENT
07:17:23PM WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE DESIGNATION.
07:17:26PM WE DID FIND THAT THE SUBJECT WOULD HAVE AN OVERALL DENSITY
07:17:30PM OF 23 DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE WHEN THE MAXIMUM IS 35 DWELLING
07:17:35PM UNITS AN ACRE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
07:17:39PM WILL PLAN FOR IN THE CITY.
07:17:40PM FOR AN AREA OF THE CITY IS THAT IS NEAR TRANSIT AND
07:17:44PM EMPLOYMENT OPTIONS AND WE COULD ALSO CONSIDER THIS TO BE
07:17:47PM VACANT OR UNDERUTILIZED BECAUSE THERE IS NOT -- THE SITE CAN
07:17:53PM ACCOMMODATE MORE DWELLING UNITS IN THE AREA THE CITY TO MEET
07:17:55PM THE NEED FOR HOUSING FOR TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION.
07:17:58PM WE FOUND THAT THE DESIGN WAS MET AS WELL POLICY 9.2.6 WITH
07:18:05PM THE SIDEWALKS CONNECTING THE FRONT DOORS OFF OF WEST
07:18:08PM COLUMBUS DRIVE.
07:18:09PM THAT CONCLUDES THIGH PRESENTATION.
07:18:13PM IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:18:15PM AS ALWAYS, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
07:18:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
07:18:23PM THANK YOU.
07:18:23PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
07:18:26PM LACHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:18:30PM THIS REZONING REQUEST COUNCIL TO THE PD IS TO ALLOW FOR
07:18:36PM EIGHT SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE SITE.
07:18:39PM THE REQUEST IS FOR TWO STRUCTURES ON THE SITE.
07:18:43PM AND I WILL PUT UP THE SITE PLAN AND LET ME ZOOM IN ON IT
07:18:47PM HERE.
07:18:51PM THIS IS THE SITE LOCATED ON WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
07:18:55PM AND TRYING TO STRAIGHT TOUCHDOWN UP.
07:19:00PM COLUMBUS DRIVE AND THE ENTRY TO THE SITE AND THE TWO
07:19:04PM BUILDINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED.
07:19:07PM TWO STRUCTURES, EACH WILL CONTAIN FOUR UNITS.
07:19:10PM EACH UNIT WILL CONTAIN TWO-CAR GARAGE INTERNAL TO THE SITE
07:19:15PM AND TWO PARKING SPACES, ONE EACH ON EACH SIDE OF THE
07:19:19PM BUILDING LOCATED TO THE SOUTH.
07:19:20PM THIS IS THE THE INTERNAL SIDEWALK THAT WAS MENTIONED -- THAT
07:19:24PM JENNIFER MENTIONED THAT IS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AND
07:19:28PM THESE UNITS WHICH IS THE UNIT ONE AND UNIT 8 HAS THE DOOR TO
07:19:34PM ORIENTS TO COLUMBUS DRIVE.
07:19:36PM THE PROPOSED SETBACKS ARE TO THE NORTH FIVE FEET, TO THE
07:19:39PM SOUTH 0 FEET.
07:19:41PM THE EAST AND THE WEST A 7-FOOT SETBACK.
07:19:44PM MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED FOR 40 FEET.
07:19:48PM WITH THIS SITE BEING ZONED RM-16, AND FUTURE LAND USE
07:19:54PM OF R-35, ALLOWS FOR 10 DWELLING UNITS ON-SITE BY RIGHT AND
07:19:59PM THE LAND LAND US CATEGORY CAN HAVE UP TO YOU 30 UNITS PER
07:20:05PM ACRE.
07:20:06PM THIS IS REQUEST IS BEFORE YOU FOR A PD THAN LESS UNITS WHAT
07:20:11PM WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THAT LAND USE CATEGORY, BUT DUE TO THE
07:20:14PM WAIVERS REQUESTED ON-SITE AND ALSO THE SETBACKS THAT ARE
07:20:18PM PROPOSED.
07:20:18PM IF THE APPLICANT WERE TO DEVELOP IN THE RM-16 ZONING
07:20:22PM DISTRICT, THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET ALL THE STANDARDS REQUIRED
07:20:26PM FOR RM-16.
07:20:27PM LET ME TAKE A LOOK AND SHOW YOU -- IF I CAN SHOW YOU JUST A
07:20:32PM SECOND THE ZONING MAP LET ME ZOOM OUT JUST A LITTLE.
07:20:40PM THE ZONING MAP FOR THE AREA.
07:20:42PM THE PROPERTY THAT IS IDENTIFIED IN RED.
07:20:45PM THIS IS COLUMBUS DRIVE.
07:20:47PM THIS IS N. BOULEVARD.
07:20:48PM THIS IS OLA WHICH IS EAST OF THE SITE.
07:20:52PM YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS SITE IS SURROUNDED A COUPLE OF RM-24
07:20:59PM IN THE AREA.
07:21:00PM OTHER THAN THAT A LARGE MAJORITY IS RM-16.
07:21:03PM AND YOU GET ALONG BOULEVARD A COUPLE OF SPOTS.
07:21:06PM THE COMMERCIAL ZONINGS ALONG WITH RESIDENTIAL AND PD
07:21:09PM ZONINGS.
07:21:10PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
07:21:12PM AND I HAVE PICTURES OF THE AREA AND THE SITE.
07:21:17PM START AT THE EAST AND WORK THEIR WAY TO THE SITE AND MOVE
07:21:21PM AROUND.
07:21:21PM THIS IS EAST OF THE SITE ON COLUMBUS.
07:21:26PM AND HEAD WEST.
07:21:28PM EAST OF THE SITE.
07:21:33PM MOVING CLOSER TO THE SITE WHICH IS NEXT DOOR.
07:21:36PM THIS IS THE SITE ON COLUMBUS, THAT IS IF YOU ARE LOOKING
07:21:41PM SOUTH.
07:21:41PM THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE.
07:21:44PM AND THIS IS THE SCHOOL NORTH OF THE SITE.
07:21:49PM AND FROM LA MADONNA, ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE, NORTH OF THE
07:21:57PM SITE.
07:21:57PM THIS IS SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE, SO THIS IS ON THE SOUTH AND
07:22:02PM ON AMELIA.
07:22:03PM THIS IS ALSO SOUTH OF THE SITE ON AMELIA AND THIS IS ANOTHER
07:22:09PM PROPERTY.
07:22:10PM THOSE ARE ALL SOUTH OF THE SITE.
07:22:15PM THE TRC STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS THE REQUEST
07:22:21PM CONSISTENT AND SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED BETWEEN
07:22:24PM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
07:22:25PM AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
07:22:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK.
07:22:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST ON THE RECORD I WAS IN THE KITCHEN
07:22:35PM AREA LISTENING TO IT ON TV.
07:22:38PM A COUPLE OF MINUTES I WAS OUT.
07:22:39PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL COUNCIL.
07:22:42PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:22:45PM STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
07:22:48PM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME
07:22:52PM WITH THE STAFF AND MODIFYING A SITE PLAN TO HAVE A
07:22:57PM CONSISTENT FINDING FROM BOTH THE CITY STAFF AND THE PLANNING
07:23:00PM COMMISSION STAFF.
07:23:01PM YOU COULD -- WITH THE R-35 LAND USE DESIGNATION YOU CAN
07:23:07PM BUILD TEN UNITS BY RIGHT.
07:23:08PM WE ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD EIGHT UNITS.
07:23:11PM REMEMBER MEETING ALL OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
07:23:16PM AND ONE OF THE UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS PARTICULAR
07:23:19PM SITE IS THAT WE ARE EXCEEDING THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.
07:23:22PM NORMALLY WE HAVE TO COME IN AND ASK FOR A WAIVER OF THAT IN
07:23:25PM ORDER TO MEET PARKING OR THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, THIS CASE
07:23:31PM WE ARE MEETING REQUIREMENTS FOR PARKING.
07:23:33PM THE DEPARTMENTS -- ALL THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE FOUND THIS TO BE
07:23:37PM CONSISTENT.
07:23:37PM AS I SAID THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IT TO BE CONSISTENT.
07:23:39PM THE PROPERTY IN THE VARIOUS CODES THAT GOVERN THIS INVOLVE
07:23:48PM THE DESIGN AND WHAT IS ALLOWABLE BY DESIGN AND WHAT IS THE
07:23:52PM PURPOSE.
07:23:52PM AND THE PURPOSE IS PROVIDE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT RECOGNIZE
07:23:57PM UNIQUE CONDITIONS.
07:23:57PM IT ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY AND PROMOTES PLAN DIVERSIFICATION,
07:24:03PM INTEGRATION OF USES AND STRUCTURES.
07:24:04PM THE GROUND-LEVEL ENTRANCES ON THE FIRST TWO UNITS FACE
07:24:09PM COLUMBUS DRIVE.
07:24:09PM WE HAVE ADDED SIDE -- SIDE YARD -- SIDEWALKS FOR ALL THE
07:24:14PM OTHER UNITS SO THEY HAVE DIRECT ACCESS THAT IS UNENCUMBERED
07:24:19PM ALL THE WAY OUT TO COLUMBUS DRIVE.
07:24:21PM THE -- THE CODES REQUIRE TO YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF LAND
07:24:26PM USE THAT REDUCES TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.
07:24:28PM AND WE HAVE DONE THAT BY INCORPORATING THESE UNITS INTO THE
07:24:32PM TRANSIT CORRIDOR WHICH IS COLUMBUS DRIVE.
07:24:36PM THE OPENING GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS AS I SAID HAVE BEEN
07:24:40PM MET.
07:24:40PM PROMOTE THE TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT AND CHARACTER AND
07:24:47PM COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING AREAS.
07:24:48PM AGAIN, WE WERE FUNDS TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH THAT.
07:24:50PM THE SURROUNDING ON ALL SIDES OF RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND
07:24:55PM IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO COMMERCIAL DESIGNATIONS EAST AND WEST
07:24:59PM OF THE PROPERTY.
07:25:00PM WE ARE ALSO PROMOTING MORE DESIRABLE LIVING AND WORKING
07:25:04PM ENVIRONMENTS WHICH IS BADLY NEEDED ACCORDING TO OUR SURVEYS.
07:25:08PM THIS AREA IS IN DIRE STRAITS OF HOUSING AND HOUSING NEEDS.
07:25:13PM PROMOTE THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES AND ELEMENTS WE WENT TIME
07:25:18PM AS I SAID WITH STAFF AND TO THE ARCHITECTS TO DESIGN
07:25:21PM SOMETHING THAT WAS COMPATIBLE AND ATTRACTIVE.
07:25:23PM THE WAIVERS THAT WERE REQUESTING INVOLVED SIX OF THE EIGHT
07:25:29PM UNITS, BUT WE HAVE MITIGATED THAT BY PROVIDING THE SIDE
07:25:33PM ACCESS SIDEWALKS OUT TO THE MAIN STREET.
07:25:35PM IT IS UNIQUE BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY OF THAT TO OTHER
07:25:39PM AFFECTED AREAS.
07:25:40PM AND WE ARE TRYING TO MEET THAT CODE AS BEST WE CAN THE SITE
07:25:47PM IS LOCATED MIDBLOCK AND ONE OF THE PROVISIONS THAT IS
07:25:50PM ENCOURAGED TO UTILIZE AN ALLEY.
07:25:52PM IF IT WEREN'T ON A MIDBLOCK, WE PROBABLY COULD IMPROVE THE
07:25:56PM ALLEY FOR BETTER ACCESS IN THE REAR; HOWEVER, OTHER
07:25:59PM PROPERTIES BETWEEN US AND THE CORNERS THAT PREVENT US FROM
07:26:02PM DOING THAT.
07:26:02PM THIS DOES NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE AND INJURY THE RIGHTS
07:26:07PM OF OTHERS OR OTHER PROPERTIES.
07:26:10PM THE WAIVER IS IN HARMONY AND SERVES THE GENERAL, PURPOSE AND
07:26:15PM INTENT OF THE CHAPTER AS BEING FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT BY
07:26:18PM BOTH THE CITY STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
07:26:21PM ALLOWING THE WAIVER WILL RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE BEING
07:26:24PM DONE AS WE ARE TRYING TO MEET AN INCREASING DEMAND FOR
07:26:28PM HOUSING AND THESE ARE CONSISTENT IN DESIGN, CHARACTER, SIZE
07:26:32PM AND SCALE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, AS WELL AS
07:26:36PM THE AREA THAT IS LOCATED IN -- AS I SAID A MAJOR TRANSIT
07:26:41PM CORRIDOR.
07:26:41PM WE ARE FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT BY 20 -- LAST COUNT WAS 26
07:26:47PM LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
07:26:50PM I DON'T WANT TO READ ALL OF THEM, BUT THEY ARE IN YOUR
07:26:53PM REPORT.
07:26:53PM BASED ON THE ACREAGE AND SIZE, WE COULD, AS I SAID, WILL
07:26:58PM BUILD TEN UNITS.
07:26:59PM WE ARE PROPOSING EIGHT AND I GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF GOALS,
07:27:05PM OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES.
07:27:06PM THE CITY'S DESIGN STANDARDS WILL MAKE FOUR OF THOSE.
07:27:10PM CITY GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES WE MEET TWO OF THOSE.
07:27:15PM PUBLIC REALM, WE MEET -- SEVEN OF THOSE.
07:27:19PM OVERALL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT, WE MEET
07:27:23PM FIVE OF THOSE.
07:27:25PM MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE DEVELOPMENT CODES, GOALS
07:27:29PM AND OBJECTIVES, THREE OF THOSE, LOW DENSITY LOW MEDIUM
07:27:34PM DEVELOPMENT, TWO OF THOSE.
07:27:35PM ADEQUATE SITES TO ACCOMMODATE HOUSING.
07:27:38PM WILL MAKE -- FIVE OF THOSE.
07:27:40PM AND INFRASTRUCTURE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES BY UTILIZING
07:27:44PM EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.
07:27:45PM WE MEET THREE OF THOSE.
07:27:48PM AND IN COVERAGE COLLUSION, AS I SAID WE HAVE BEEN FOUND TO
07:27:53PM BE CONSISTENT BY BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY
07:27:56PM STAFF.
07:27:56PM WE MEET LOCATIONAL CRITERIA WITH THE TYPE, SIZE AND SCALE OF
07:28:01PM THE DEVELOPMENT BEING PROPOSED IN THE AREA.
07:28:02PM AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
07:28:07PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
07:28:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
07:28:13PM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM
07:28:17PM NUMBER 6, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-77.
07:28:22PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
07:28:25PM MATT SINK.
07:28:27PM 410 WEST PARK AVENUE.
07:28:30PM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
07:28:32PM OUR PRESIDENT IS UNABLE TO MAKE IT.
07:28:34PM I AM THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT.
07:28:36PM THIS IS MY QUADRANT THAT I REPRESENT.
07:28:38PM THE ASSOCIATION HAS MET AND DISCUSSED THIS PROJECT AT
07:28:42PM LENGTH.
07:28:43PM AND THEY -- THERE IS NO SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
07:28:46PM ONE OF THE BIGGEST HURDLES THAT WE FOUND IS THAT WHILE THE
07:28:52PM APPLICANT MAY HAVE WORKED WITH THE STAFF ON DESIGN AND
07:28:55PM THINGS LIKE THAT, THERE WAS NO OUTREACH TO THE COMMUNITY.
07:28:59PM NO TAKING UP INVITATIONS TO PRESENT.
07:29:01PM NO TALKING TO NEIGHBORS AND THE SURROUNDING, YOU KNOW,
07:29:05PM STAKEHOLDERS WITH REGARDS HOW THIS MAY IMPACT THE COMMUNITY.
07:29:09PM ADDITIONALLY ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE FIND CONCERNING IS
07:29:13PM WE WORK REALLY HARD FOR WALKABLE, SAFE PLACE FROM LA MADONNA
07:29:17PM AND THE GIRLS AND BOYS CLUB AND THIS PROJECT IS USHERING 24
07:29:21PM CARS IN ONE MAIN ENTRY IN AND OUT CONSTANTLY WITHOUT
07:29:25PM UTILIZATION OF THE ALLEYWAY.
07:29:27PM ONE OF THE BIG THINGS WE HAVE BEEN PROMOTING IS DEVELOPMENT
07:29:31PM THAT USES THE ALLEYWAY AND REDUCED THE IMPACT OF SAFETY ON
07:29:35PM THE SURROUNDING WALKERS, CHILDREN CROSSING THE STREET.
07:29:39PM THAT IS A HIGHLY, HIGHLY USED AREA FOR CHILDREN ON A REGULAR
07:29:44PM BASIS.
07:29:45PM ADDITIONALLY ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT THE ASSOCIATION IS
07:29:50PM IN DISAGREEMENT WITH IS THE DOOR ORIENTATION WHICH IS IN
07:29:54PM DIRECT CONFLICT OF CITY CODE 27-282-9C1 BASICALLY SAYING
07:30:01PM FOUR OF -- SORRY, SIX OF THESE UNITS WILL BE FACING SIDEWAYS
07:30:05PM AN NOT HAVING THE FRONT DOOR ORIENTATION THAT DOESN'T
07:30:10PM PROMOTE CONNECTIVITY AND COMMUNICATION AMONG NEIGHBORS AND
07:30:13PM SURROUNDING AREA.
07:30:14PM WE FIND THAT IT TO BE EXTREMELY CAR-CENTRIC.
07:30:18PM THE COURTYARD IN THE MIDDLE ALMOST AS WIDE OR WIDER THAN
07:30:23PM COLUMBUS.
07:30:23PM 28 FEET.
07:30:25PM YOU CAN IMAGINE DOWN THE MIDDLE OF IT IS BASICALLY A ROAD
07:30:28PM THAT IS A DEAD END AND NO UTILIZATION OF THE ALLEY TO
07:30:32PM DISPERSE THE TRAFFIC.
07:30:34PM THE OTHER THING THAT WE ARE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A RUB
07:30:37PM WITH IS THE ERODING OF THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY.
07:30:43PM THERE IS A BUNGALOW THERE.
07:30:46PM IN ITS PLACE, IT WILL BE -- ESSENTIALLY WHAT LOOKS LIKE A
07:30:51PM MODERN BOX OUT OF PLACE FOR HEIGHT, SIZE AND SCALE.
07:30:55PM AS THE PHOTO SHOWED, EVERYTHING AROUND THERE IS SINGLE STORY
07:30:59PM AND BASICALLY AT SCALE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND THE MIDDLE OF
07:31:03PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL SHOOT UP A BUILDING THAT DOESN'T
07:31:07PM NECESSARILY FIT THE COMMUNITY.
07:31:10PM THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THE MEMBERS WE REPRESENT ARE -- DO
07:31:13PM NOT SUPPORT THIS -- THIS PROJECT.
07:31:14PM THANK YOU.
07:31:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:31:18PM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
07:31:22PM I SEE THERE IS A PERSON ONLINE.
07:31:24PM HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
07:31:31PM >> NO.
07:31:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE TO FIRST UNMUTE YOURSELF.
07:31:35PM >> I AM SORRY, THANK YOU, YES, I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
07:31:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE BEEN OR HAVEN'T?
07:31:47PM I AM SORRY?
07:31:48PM >> I HELD UP MY HAND WHEN -- I GUESS I HAVEN'T --
07:31:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DIDN'T SEE YOU AT THAT TIME, SO WE ARE
07:31:54PM GOING TO HAVE TO SWEAR YOU IN.
07:31:56PM >> THANK YOU.
07:31:56PM >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
07:32:00PM [SWEARING IN]
07:32:05PM >> I DO.
07:32:05PM >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
07:32:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE PROCEED.
07:32:09PM >> OKAY.
07:32:10PM MY NAME IS TALIA RABO, AND I LIVE A COUPLE OF BLOCKS AWAY.
07:32:17PM I AM AT 2302 NORTH MASSACHUSETTS AVENUE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
07:32:22PM AND, YEAH, MY -- MY DAUGHTER AND I, WE CROSS COLUMBUS EVERY
07:32:30PM DAY TO GO TO SCHOOL THERE, SO I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT ALL
07:32:33PM THOSE CARS COMING OUT OF THERE.
07:32:37PM BUT YEAH, I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIX UNITS WHOSE
07:32:44PM FRONT DOORS WILL BE FACING SIDE DOORS AND NOT THE STREET.
07:32:47PM WE REALLY VALUE MEETING OUR NEIGHBORS AND KNOWING OUR
07:32:51PM NEIGHBORS AND HAVING THE FRONT DOORS FACING THE FENCES, IS
07:32:58PM UNNEIGHBORLY KIND OF ATMOSPHERE.
07:33:02PM AND ALSO AS MATT SAID, ANTI-WALKABLE AND VERY CAR-CENTRIC
07:33:08PM DEVELOPMENT.
07:33:09PM I GUESS IT IS CALLED GREEN SPACE, BUT REALLY JUST A BIG ROAD
07:33:13PM BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.
07:33:16PM A PERMEABLE SURFACE, BUT REMOVING SEVERAL TREES THAT BE
07:33:21PM PRESERVED INCLUDING A GRAND TREE.
07:33:23PM SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.
07:33:26PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:33:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:33:28PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE ONLINE?
07:33:34PM ANYONE ELSE?
07:33:35PM >>CLERK: NO ONE ELSE IS LOGGED ON.
07:33:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:33:38PM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
07:33:42PM PETITIONER, REBUTTAL?
07:33:47PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:33:49PM TYPICALLY IT IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT HAS A PROBLEM WITH
07:33:51PM ACCESS AND SIDEWALKS THAT ARE -- THAT ARE ACCESSING
07:33:57PM PROPERTIES, AND ON YOUR REPORT, IT SHOWS THAT THE FIRE
07:34:00PM DEPARTMENT HAD NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS.
07:34:02PM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE -- THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION HAS
07:34:07PM SOME CONCERNS.
07:34:07PM THEIR CONCERNS SEEM TO BE TOWARD DESIGN STANDARDS THAT IS NOT
07:34:14PM APPLICABLE TO THIS PETITION.
07:34:15PM WHAT IS APPLICABLE WHETHER OR NOT THE DEVELOPMENT IS
07:34:19PM APPROPRIATE FOR THIS LOCATION AND MET THE STANDARDS.
07:34:22PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY STAFF HAS INDICATED TO
07:34:25PM YOU THEY HAVE MET THE STANDARDS FOR THIS PETITION AS
07:34:29PM PRESENTED.
07:34:29PM WE DID TRY TO MEET.
07:34:31PM AND WE SENT OUR ENGINEER TO MEET WITH THE HOMEOWNER
07:34:36PM ASSOCIATION THIS WEEK.
07:34:37PM INDICATING WE HAVEN'T REACHED OUT AND HAVEN'T HAD DISCUSSION
07:34:41PM WITH THEM IS INACCURATE.
07:34:43PM THEY WERE ADAMANT ABOUT THEIR OBJECTION; HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T
07:34:47PM MEAN WE DIDN'T MEET WITH THEM.
07:34:48PM WE TRIED TO MITIGATE THE ACCESS AND ORIENTATION OF THE
07:34:52PM UNITS.
07:34:52PM THAT IS WHY WE PUT IN THE SIDE SIDEWALKS.
07:34:56PM YOU HEARD PREVIOUSLY, THE TECHNICAL STANDARDS, THE PLANNING
07:35:00PM COMMISSION STANDARDS, THE CITY STAFF STANDARDS IS WHAT
07:35:03PM GOVERNS THIS PROPOSAL.
07:35:04PM WE MET THAT.
07:35:05PM AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
07:35:09PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
07:35:11PM WE HAVE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION LOCATION.
07:35:13PM AND WE HAVE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THIS SHOULD BE AN
07:35:17PM APPROPRIATE LOCATION.
07:35:19PM AND ONE THAT IS SENSITIVE TO THE OTHER STANDARDS.
07:35:22PM WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS A HOUSE OR A BUNGALOW THAT IS PART
07:35:26PM OF THIS QUESTION IS NOT -- IS NOT RELEVANT.
07:35:29PM NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT.
07:35:30PM WE ALSO NOTE THAT THE NATURAL RESOURCES HAVE NOT FOUND --
07:35:33PM HAVE FOUND THIS TO BE CONSISTENT AND WILL WORK OUT WHATEVER
07:35:37PM ISSUES WE HAVE WITH THEM AT PERMITTING.
07:35:40PM SO I THINK WE MET THE BURDENS AS ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY
07:35:43PM CODE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST
07:35:47PM YOUR APPROVAL.
07:35:47PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
07:35:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:35:50PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
07:35:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:35:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
07:35:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:35:57PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:35:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:36:01PM ALL IN FAVOR.
07:36:02PM NOW WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
07:36:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: --
07:36:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:36:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL READ IT.
07:36:21PM SEE WHERE IT GOES.
07:36:23PM UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE WAS GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.
07:36:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS APPROACHED THE
07:36:31PM MICROPHONE.
07:36:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN.
07:36:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL MOVE TO DENY REZ-22-77 WITH THE
07:36:39PM PROPERTY LOCATED 310 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE DUE TO THE FAILURE
07:36:43PM OF THE APPLICANT TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE
07:36:47PM COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AS
07:36:51PM CONDITIONED AND SHOWN ON-SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
07:36:54PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE AND APPLICANT'S UNABLE TO
07:36:58PM MEET THE BURDEN OF PROOF WITH THE REQUESTED WAIVERS.
07:37:03PM AND TO NOT COMPLY WITH THE GOALS AND POLICIES IN THE
07:37:07PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHILE PROPOSED REZONING MAY BE ALLOWED
07:37:11PM UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, THE
07:37:15PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
07:37:17PM CONCLUDED THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
07:37:20PM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED THEREUNDER, I FIND THAT A
07:37:26PM REQUEST OF A MULTIFAMILY SURROUNDED BY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES
07:37:30PM IS NOT APPROPRIATE ON THIS SITE OR COMPATIBLE IN VIOLATION
07:37:35PM OF 9.3.8 THAT REQUIRES NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS
07:37:39PM TO BE MINIMALLY DISRUPTIVE TO ADJACENT AREAS.
07:37:44PM IT ALSO FAILS TO COMPLY WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT 27-136.
07:37:50PM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN DOES NOT
07:37:53PM PROMOTE OR ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS SAY PROP YACHT IN
07:37:56PM LOCATION, CHARACTER, COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING USES.
07:37:59PM AND THE FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH SECTION 27-139 SUBSECTIONS 4
07:38:10PM SUCH AS THE REQUESTED WAIVERS NECESSARY TO SUPPORT THE FACT
07:38:13PM THAT THE PROPOSED -- SUPPORT RATHER THE REQUESTED WAIVERS
07:38:19PM NECESSARILY THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT COMPLY
07:38:22PM WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
07:38:24PM THE APPLICANT DID NOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THE PROPOSED
07:38:27PM DESIGN IS UNIQUE IN ORDER TO JUSTIFY THE WAIVER.
07:38:30PM AND THE APPLICANT DID NOT PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT THE
07:38:33PM REQUESTED WAIVERS NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE AND INJURY THE
07:38:37PM RIGHTS OF OTHERS OF THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY
07:38:40PM THE WAIVERS.
07:38:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
07:38:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:38:46PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:38:48PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IN ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:38:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
07:38:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:38:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
07:38:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:39:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
07:39:07PM [INAUDIBLE]
07:39:08PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
07:39:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
07:39:12PM >>CLERK: MOTION DID NOT PASS WITH VIERA, MIRANDA, CARLSON,
07:39:19PM GUDES, CITRO VOTING NO.
07:39:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
07:39:30PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:39:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:39:33PM I WILL READ IT.
07:39:34PM MY PROBLEM IS, SIR, I DON'T HAVE THE OTHER SUPPORTING
07:39:37PM LANGUAGE WITH ME UP HERE.
07:39:40PM I CAN READ THE ORDINANCE.
07:39:43PM IF ANYBODY WANTS TO ADD THE OTHER SUPPORTED LANGUAGE.
07:39:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO PROBLEM.
07:39:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM SURE A COUNCILPERSON HERE WILL HELP
07:39:53PM YOU.
07:39:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:39:55PM MY APOLOGIES.
07:39:57PM I READ AN ORDINANCE REZONING THE PROPERTY AT THE GENERAL
07:40:00PM VICINITY OF 310 WEST CORPUS CHRISTI, DRIVE, CITY OF TAMPA,
07:40:04PM FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 ARE FROM
07:40:08PM ZONING DISTRICT RM-16, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY TO PD
07:40:14PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
07:40:17PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:40:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:40:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL ADD THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
07:40:23PM CONSISTENT WITH HOUSING TOLE 1.3.1.
07:40:27PM 1.3.3 AND 1.3.4 WHICH ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND
07:40:34PM UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S RESIDENTS
07:40:39PM FUTURE POPULATION.
07:40:40PM THE WILL HE ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FORM STRATEGY THAT
07:40:45PM ENCOURAGES IN FILL DEVELOPMENT OF TRANSIT AND EMPLOYMENT
07:40:49PM SERVICES AND HAVE THE GREATEST SHARE OF GROWTH TO URBAN
07:40:52PM VILLAGES AND INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY 1.1.17.
07:40:56PM AND 1.1.18 UNDER LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 27-136.
07:41:03PM PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHOWS FROM MOATS AND ENCOURAGES
07:41:06PM DEVELOPMENT IN AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION, CHARACTER AND
07:41:09PM COMPATIBILITY TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:41:12PM THE WAIVERS WHICH IS SECTION 127, 139.4.
07:41:17PM THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS UNIQUE AND REQUEST
07:41:22PM WAIVERS AND WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE THE RIGHTS OF
07:41:26PM OTHERS AND THE PROPERTY TO BE EFFECTED BY THE WAIVERS.
07:41:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:41:40PM AMENDED OR COMPLETED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:41:44PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:41:46PM ANY DISCUSSION?
07:41:48PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:41:50PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:41:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOING TO DENY THIS ONE AGAIN.
07:41:56PM AGAIN, THERE IS ALREADY ZONING TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
07:42:00PM YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IT THAT WAY AND THAT IS THE
07:42:04PM PROBLEM HERE.
07:42:04PM THAT THE PUBLIC IS ASKING IN ALL OF THESE CASES BASICALLY
07:42:09PM THAT YOU JUST DESIGN TO FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:42:12PM AND THAT IS NOT -- THAT IS NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE WHICH
07:42:15PM IS WHY IT IS GOING TO A PD AND WHY THEY ARE REQUESTING
07:42:19PM WAIVERS.
07:42:20PM THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT WITHIN THE CODE.
07:42:22PM THAT IS WHY THE CODE EXISTS.
07:42:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
07:42:28PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:42:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:42:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:42:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
07:42:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:42:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
07:42:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:42:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:42:47PM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSED WITH MANISCALCO, HURTAK VOTING NO.
07:42:54PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 2, 2023
07:43:00PM AT 9:30 A.M.
07:43:02PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
07:43:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, MR. MICHELINI.
07:43:06PM I SEE A REVISION SHEET INVOLVED IN THIS ONE AS WELL, IS THAT
07:43:10PM CORRECT?
07:43:11PM WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS ACCOUNTED FOR MR. MICHELINI AND PART
07:43:14PM OF THE MOTION, COUNCIL?
07:43:16PM >> YES.
07:43:16PM >> THANK YOU.
07:43:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEXT AGENDA ITEM --
07:43:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO ASK THIS -- ASK
07:43:25PM MISS WELLS A QUESTION BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT ITEM.
07:43:28PM I VOTED THE WAY I DID BUT YOU MAKE A GOOD POINT,
07:43:35PM COUNCILWOMAN, IN THE END.
07:43:36PM AND I AM WONDERING -- HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE STAFF WILL
07:43:41PM LISTEN TO US.
07:43:41PM WE HAVE ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE THERE AND ALL
07:43:46PM THE PDs.
07:43:46PM TO HAVE A CONVERSATION LATER ON ABOUT THAT.
07:43:50PM BUS I DON'T HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING A CODE AND PROCESS.
07:43:54PM WHY DO WE HAVE THESE PDs CHANGING THE PROCESS.
07:43:58PM WE NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND STOP THESE PDs.
07:44:03PM GETTING OUT OF HAND AND MAKING THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND
07:44:06PM CONSTITUENTS UPSET BECAUSE WE ARE GOING AROUND A PROCESS TO
07:44:10PM DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO RATHER THAN WHAT THE ORDINANCE AND THE
07:44:13PM CODE SAYS.
07:44:14PM WE NEED TO LOOK FORWARD TO STOPPING IT.
07:44:16PM GOT A SIDEWALK CONVERSATION.
07:44:18PM WE NEED TO STOP THIS.
07:44:20PM TOO MANY PDs GOING ON.
07:44:23PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ABSOLUTELY ACKNOWLEDGED.
07:44:25PM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES AND WE WILL DEFINITELY DISCUSS
07:44:29PM IT WITH YOU AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
07:44:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE
07:44:38PM NUMBER REZ-22-102.
07:44:38PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
07:44:42PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:44:45PM THIS ITEM, COUNCIL, PROPERTY LOCATED 904 EAST OSBORNE AVENUE
07:44:50PM THIS.
07:44:50PM THIS ASK IS FROM THE APPLICANT SHANE O'NEIL.
07:44:53PM AND THE REQUEST IS TO REJOAN THE PROPERTY FROM SH-CG
07:45:00PM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO SH-RM, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
07:45:04PM I WILL GIVE IT TO JENNIFER WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND
07:45:07PM I WILL COME BACK TO GIVE MY REPORT.
07:45:09PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION
07:45:11PM STAFF.
07:45:11PM IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE
07:45:20PM HEIGHTS.
07:45:20PM TRANSIT ON NEBRASKA.
07:45:21PM THE METRO RAPID OR HART ROUTE 400.
07:45:25PM GIDDENS PARK IS THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
07:45:30PM THE SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE EVACUATION ZONE.
07:45:33PM THE SUBJECT SITE IN AN AERIAL LOCATED SOUTH OF NEBRASKA
07:45:40PM AVENUE.
07:45:40PM EAST AT OSBORNE.
07:45:42PM A GAS STATION OVER HERE.
07:45:44PM NEW TOWNHOMES NEAR NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE AND FULL
07:45:48PM DEVELOPMENT OF OUR CORRIDORS SERVED BY TRANSIT AND ALWAYS
07:45:52PM NICE FOR PLANNERS TO SEE.
07:45:53PM THE PINK COLOR ALONG NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE AND KIND OF GOES
07:45:58PM IN TOWARD EAST OSBORNE AVENUE IS THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
07:46:03PM CATEGORY THAT ALLOWS FOR A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL USES.
07:46:07PM THIS IS RESIDENTIAL-20.
07:46:08PM AND THIS IS RESIDENTIAL-10.
07:46:10PM SO AS ONE MOVES EAST ALONG -- EAST OSBORNE OFF OF NORTH
07:46:15PM NEBRASKA, IT IS INTENSE.
07:46:17PM STEPS DOWN.
07:46:18PM BASICALLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
07:46:20PM THAT IS THE LAND USE PATTERN.
07:46:22PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE --
07:46:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT?
07:46:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
07:46:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LOOKS LIKE IT IS PINK RIGHT NOW.
07:46:37PM SO THAT DOES MATCH WHAT IS AROUND IT?
07:46:39PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: YES, PINK TO THE SOUTH AND THE NORTH.
07:46:43PM IT IS PROVIDING --
07:46:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT SAYS HERE THAT IT IS -- OH, I AM SORRY,
07:46:49PM THAT IS FUTURE LAND USE.
07:46:51PM APOLOGIES.
07:46:52PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
07:46:53PM IT'S -- IT IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
07:46:57PM IT ALLOWS FOR THE CG ZONING AND THE -- AND THE RM ZONING
07:47:04PM THAT IS BEING REQUESTED.
07:47:05PM IT ALLOWS FOR THAT MIXTURE.
07:47:07PM IF IT WAS BROWN, THAT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE CG ZONING
07:47:14PM OR ORANGE.
07:47:14PM SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES SUPPORT THE RESIDENTIAL
07:47:18PM INFILL DEVELOPMENT.
07:47:19PM CONVERTING FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL AND DEFINITELY
07:47:22PM MEETS THE PROVISION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:47:25PM AND IT IS NEAR TRANSIT.
07:47:27PM LOCATED 150 FEET EAST OF THE TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR
07:47:32PM SUITABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL INTENSIFICATION DUE TO THE WIDE
07:47:35PM RANGE OF SERVICES AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
07:47:37PM WE DID FIND THIS TO BE CONSISTENT.
07:47:39PM AND IT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL
07:47:43PM DEVELOPMENT THIS PORTION OF EAST OSBOURNE AVENUE.
07:47:47PM AS ALWAYS, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
07:47:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
07:47:52PM SEEING NONE.
07:47:53PM MISS DOCK.
07:47:54PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL, LaCHONE DOCK,
07:48:01PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:48:02PM AS WE MENTIONED, THIS ZONING REQUEST IS TO REZONE TO THE
07:48:08PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ZONING.
07:48:10PM SINCE IT IS A EUCLIDIAN ZONING DISTRICT ALL STANDARDS MUST
07:48:15PM BE MET FOR THE RM ZONING DISTRICT AND THOSE STANDARDS HAVE
07:48:19PM BEEN PROVIDED ON PAGE TWO OF THE STAFF REPORT.
07:48:22PM THIS SITE IS SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES BY COMMERCIAL GENERAL
07:48:26PM ZONING, THE SH-CG ZONING DISTRICT.
07:48:29PM THIS IS THE ZONING MAP.
07:48:31PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED IN RED.
07:48:34PM THIS IS OSBOURNE AVENUE.
07:48:36PM AND THIS IS NEBRASKA TO THE WEST.
07:48:39PM YOU CAN SEE ALONG THE CORRIDOR, THE COMMERCIAL
07:48:47PM GENERAL, SH-CG THAT RUNS ALONG NEBRASKA AND THE RESIDENTIAL
07:48:50PM MULTIFAMILY HERE HE FURTHER TO EAST A COUPLE OF LOTS TO THE
07:48:53PM EAST, A LITTLE BIT TO THE SOUTH AND A POCKET TO THE NORTH
07:48:58PM AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PRE-DOMINQUE COBB MAN IN THE
07:49:01PM FURTHER EAST.
07:49:02PM I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
07:49:05PM SO THIS IS THE SITE LOCATED THERE.
07:49:13PM THIS IS ACTUALLY ON OSBORNE, THIS IS IF YOU ARE LOOKING
07:49:19PM WEST.
07:49:19PM NEBRASKA IS AT THE LIGHT THERE IN THE PICTURES.
07:49:23PM THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE.
07:49:24PM THE MINI-MART.
07:49:26PM THE SOUTH END AND THE MINI-MART IS HERE.
07:49:29PM IN IS NEBRASKA.
07:49:30PM IN THIS PICTURE, THE SITE IS TO THE RIGHT IN THIS PHOTO.
07:49:35PM THIS IS EAST OF THE SITE.
07:49:37PM THIS IS SOUTH.
07:49:41PM AND THIS IS ALSO SOUTH.
07:49:42PM AND THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON OSBORNE BUT YOU CAN SEE THE
07:49:48PM RESIDENTIAL -- THAT IS LOCATED SOUTH.
07:49:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:49:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THE MAP YOU HAD EARLIER SAID ALL THAT WAS
07:49:57PM ZONED COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
07:49:58PM AROUND -- SURROUNDING THE SITE, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS
07:50:03PM BEING USED CURRENTLY AS RESIDENTIAL?
07:50:07PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT, YES.
07:50:08PM ON THIS MAP, YES, YOU WILL SEE THAT NEBRASKA HAS ALL OF THIS
07:50:13PM AS A CG ZONING INTO IT GOES INTO THIS PROJECT, OF THE
07:50:17PM BELONG.
07:50:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
07:50:19PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YOU ARE WELCOME.
07:50:21PM ABSOLUTELY.
07:50:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK.
07:50:24PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THE REQUEST HAS BEEN FOUND CONSISTENT
07:50:28PM FROM DRC STAFF.
07:50:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOT AHEAD OF US.
07:50:32PM SORRY, MISS DOCK.
07:50:33PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THAT'S OKAY.
07:50:34PM THANK YOU.
07:50:35PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
07:50:38PM SHANE O'NEIL 804 WEST PARK AVENUE.
07:50:41PM THE OVERHEAD HERE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THIS.
07:50:44PM MINE IS A LOT MORE STRAIGHTFORWARD THAN THE LAST COUPLE.
07:50:53PM AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS STAR IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
07:50:56PM LOOKING TO GO FROM THE SH-CG TO SH-RM.
07:51:01PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS OF THE SURROUNDING AN AREA.
07:51:03PM QUITE A BIT OF PRECEDENT.
07:51:05PM LAST YEAR WE CONSTRUCTED 1011 AND OSBORNE AVENUE WHICH ARE
07:51:15PM BOTH DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY.
07:51:17PM EVEN THOUGH THIS IS EUCLIDIAN WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO, IS
07:51:22PM SIMILAR TO 911 AND 913 EAST OSBORNE THAT WILL BE
07:51:27PM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
07:51:29PM FURTHERMORE, IN TERMS OF THE DENSITY, 4701 NEBRASKA, WE ARE
07:51:35PM CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTING A SMALL MIXED USE BUILDING WITH
07:51:38PM OFFICE BELOW.
07:51:39PM TWO APARTMENTS ABOVE.
07:51:40PM SO, AGAIN, A PRECEDENT FOR THE HIGHER DENSITY.
07:51:43PM AS MENTIONED BEFORE BRIEFLY, THE SITE BORDERS RESIDENTIAL
07:51:48PM AND THEN ABUTS UP TO THE COMMERCIAL, THE NEBRASKA MINI-MART.
07:51:54PM ACROSS THE STREET IS A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND NEBRASKA
07:51:57PM HERE.
07:51:57PM SO, AGAIN, IT BEING A EUCLIDIAN REZONING.
07:52:02PM DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO SHOW WHAT WE ARE DOING AND
07:52:06PM LOOKING TO ADD TO THE HOUSING OPTIONS ON EAST OSBORNE.
07:52:13PM AGAIN ALL THE A PAM REMEMBERS WILL BE MET THROUGH BUILDING,
07:52:17PM URBAN DESIGN AND NATURAL RESOURCES.
07:52:19PM ALREADY GLANCED THIS OVER AND GIVEN US AN UNOFFICIAL
07:52:23PM BLESSING AND DESIGN AND GET THE SUBMITTAL IN IF GRANTED THIS
07:52:28PM REQUEST.
07:52:29PM HE THINKS THAT SUMS UP MY PRESENTATION.
07:52:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:52:33PM ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PETITIONER?
07:52:37PM SEEING NONE -- MISS DOCK.
07:52:40PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, COUNCIL.
07:52:44PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:52:48PM I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THE ASK IS FOR THE R M, THE SH-RM.
07:52:54PM THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED YOU PLANS AND SHOWN ELEVATIONS,
07:52:57PM THEY ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THIS.
07:53:00PM JUST TO PUT IT ON THE RECORD.
07:53:02PM THANK YOU.
07:53:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:53:05PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER.
07:53:07PM ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
07:53:11PM ITEM NUMBER 8?
07:53:13PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
07:53:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:53:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE BY EVERYONE.
07:53:21PM SECONDED -- MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:53:24PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:53:26PM ALL IN FAVOR.
07:53:26PM OKAY.
07:53:28PM GO TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:53:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:53:32PM FILE NUMBER REZ-22-102.
07:53:39PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
07:53:42PM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN 904 EAST OSBORNE AVENUE IN
07:53:49PM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
07:53:52PM SECTION 1, FROM ZONING CLASSIFICATION SH-CG, SEMINOLE
07:53:57PM HEIGHTS, COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO SH-RM, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS,
07:54:02PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:54:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
07:54:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
07:54:10PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:54:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:54:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:54:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:54:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:54:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:54:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:54:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:54:26PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:54:29PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 2, 2023
07:54:33PM AT 9:30 A.M.
07:54:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:54:37PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
07:54:38PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, REZ-22-104.
07:54:51PM >>ANNIE BARNES: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:54:53PM ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:54:56PM NEXT ITEM REZ-22-104.
07:55:02PM THE REQUEST FROM RM-16 AND RO-1 TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
07:55:11PM I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR 2009 AND
07:55:18PM 2015 SAXON STREET.
07:55:19PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE FOR THE PLANNING
07:55:22PM COMMISSION.
07:55:22PM PALMETTO BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:55:25PM THE LARGEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
07:55:29PM THERE IS NO TRANSIT TO SERVES PALMETTO BEACH.
07:55:32PM IT IS WITHIN EVACUATION ZONEA.
07:55:35PM AND HERE IS A -- HERE IS AN AERIAL.
07:55:40PM SOUTH 20th STREET IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIVIDING LINE, SO
07:55:44PM EVERYTHING MOSTLY TO THE EAST IS RESIDENTIAL.
07:55:47PM THERE ARE SOME INDUSTRIAL USES AND SOME COMMERCIAL USES TO
07:55:50PM THE EAST, BUT THEN TO THE WEST, WE HAVE REALLY HEAVY
07:55:54PM INDUSTRIAL USES OF SOUTH 20th STREET.
07:55:57PM SO IT IS LOCATED EAST OF SOUTH 20th STREET.
07:56:00PM SEVERAL PAR STILLS LOCATED ALONG SAXON STREET RIGHT HERE.
07:56:06PM WE DO HAVE A WAREHOUSE USE UP HERE, BUT THE MOST PART,
07:56:10PM SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED SURROUNDING THE SITE.
07:56:13PM SOME NONRESIDENTIAL USES THAT DOES FRONT SAXON STREET.
07:56:18PM THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE SITE IS REALLY UNIQUE.
07:56:21PM TRANSITIONAL USE-24.
07:56:24PM I WILL GO OVER THAT IN A MINUTE.
07:56:25PM TO THE WEST OF THE SITE IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND LIGHT
07:56:30PM INDUSTRIAL.
07:56:30PM WE HAVE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 WHICH IS THE PINK, AND
07:56:35PM RESIDENTIAL-10 WHICH IS THE ORANGE COLOR.
07:56:37PM THE TRANSITIONAL USE-24 WAS ON ESTABLISHED -- WHEN THEY WERE
07:56:43PM WRITING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PACK IN THE 80s 80s.
07:56:47PM GAVE THE DESIGNATION TO AREAS THAT DEVELOPED PRIOR TO
07:56:50PM PLANNING AND ZONING AND KIND OF HARD TO NAIL DOWN THE
07:56:53PM APPROPRIATE LAND USE.
07:56:54PM WE HAVE SEEN IN THE CITY SOME OF THEM HAVE EITHER
07:57:00PM TRANSITIONED MOSTLY TOWARD INDUSTRIAL USES OR ARE
07:57:03PM TRANSITIONING MOSTLY TO RESIDENTIAL USES.
07:57:05PM SO THERE IS A POLICY IN THE PLAN THAT WE SHOULD TAKE INTO
07:57:08PM ACCOUNT THE ZONING PATTERN WHEN RE-REVIEW THE ZONING REQUEST
07:57:13PM IN THE TRANSITIONAL FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY TO MAKE OUR
07:57:17PM CONSISTENCY FINDING.
07:57:19PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THAT RESIDENTIAL WAS
07:57:22PM APPROPRIATE HERE BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
07:57:25PM AND THERE IS A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL ZONING SURROUNDING IT.
07:57:28PM AND WE ARE SEEING IS THE TRANSITION -- WITH THE TRANSITIONAL
07:57:32PM USE 24 CATEGORIES KIND OF GOING THAT WAY.
07:57:34PM IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTERESTING LAND USE CATEGORY BE,
07:57:40PM BUT HOW WE APPROACH IT.
07:57:41PM IT IS -- THIS -- THIS DOES SUPPORT, AGAIN, THE COMPREHENSIVE
07:57:46PM PLAN SUPPORTS COMPARTABLE INFILL ON VACANT UNDERUTILIZED
07:57:51PM LAND THAT WE FEEL THIS WOULD FURTHER -- THERE ARE FRONT
07:57:55PM DOORS PROVIDED WITH A CLEAR CONNECTION TO THE STREET AND
07:57:59PM THIS DESIGN PRINCIPAL IS MET IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
07:58:03PM UTILIZING THE ALLEY THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS VERY
07:58:06PM SUPPORTIVE OF AND PROVIDING MORE HOUSING FOR TAMPA'S GROWING
07:58:09PM POPULATION.
07:58:10PM OVERALL CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN.
07:58:12PM AND THAT -- AND THAT TRANSITIONAL USE-24 FUTURE LAND USE
07:58:17PM CATEGORY.
07:58:17PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
07:58:18PM THANK YOU.
07:58:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS MALONE?
07:58:25PM NONE.
07:58:25PM THANK YOU, MISS MALONE.
07:58:26PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:58:30PM JUST TO SUMMARIZE AGAIN THERE ARE REQUEST IS TO REZONE
07:58:34PM FROM RO-1 AND RM-16 WITH APPROXIMATELY 6.5 ACRES.
07:58:41PM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS COMPRISED OF LOT 4-9, EAST TAMPA,
07:58:47PM PLATTED 1925.
07:58:48PM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
07:58:53PM AND, LET'S SEE, THE SITE IS SURROUNDED WITH RESIDENTIAL
07:58:59PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DWELLINGS AND SEVERAL COMMERCIAL USES
07:59:02PM IN THE AREA.
07:59:03PM YOU CAN SEE THE -- THE VARIETY OF ZONING IN THE AREA AS
07:59:08PM WELL.
07:59:08PM THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING APPROVAL -- OR PROPOSING TWO
07:59:15PM BUILDINGS.
07:59:15PM EACH BUILDING WITH SIX UNITS.
07:59:17PM THE TOTAL OF 12 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLINGS.
07:59:23PM THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING OVER THE MINIMUM PARKING;
07:59:27PM HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REMOVE -- IS
07:59:32PM REQUESTING TWO WAIVERS.
07:59:33PM ONE TO REMOVE ONE NONHAZARDOUS GRAND LIVE OAK AND TO REDUCE
07:59:38PM THE AISLE WIDTH FROM 24 FEET TO 22 FEET.
07:59:42PM INGRESS AND EGRESS IS PROVIDED FROM SAXON STREET IN AN ALLEY
07:59:48PM THAT RUNS BEHIND THE PROPERTY.
07:59:50PM STAFF HAS WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH THE APPLICANT.
07:59:53PM AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS FOUND IT
07:59:58PM CONSISTENT, EVEN WITH THE TWO WAIVERS.
08:00:01PM AND I WILL PLACE A PORTION OF THE SITE PLAN ON THE OVERHEAD
08:00:04PM TO SHOW YOU.

8:00:05PM FOR INSTANCE, THE SIDEWALKS GOING AROUND TREES IN SOME
8:00:06PM LOCATIONS.
8:00:07PM SO THERE WAS REAL THOUGHT PUT INTO THE PLAN.
8:00:10PM I'M JUST GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF THE SUBJECT SITE
8:00:13PM AND SURROUNDING AREA.
8:00:14PM SO SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
8:00:22PM THIS IS THE SITE FACING -- PART OF THE SUBJECT SITE FACING
8:00:27PM SOUTH 20th STREET, SO THE SITE IS ON THE LEFT ON THIS
8:00:31PM SIDE.
8:00:33PM THIS IS THE SITE ADJACENT TO WESTERN LOT FACING EAST FROM
8:00:38PM SOUTH 20th STREET, AND THEN THIS IS PROPERTY NORTH OF THE
8:00:44PM SUBJECT SITE.
8:00:47PM THIS IS PROPERTY FURTHER EAST, COMMERCIAL RESTAURANT.
8:00:50PM AND THEN THIS IS ONE OF THE BUILDINGS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE
8:00:57PM SUBJECT PROPERTY SOUTH.
8:01:00PM AND THIS IS THE VACANT LOT AND A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT
8:01:04PM PROPERTY.
8:01:05PM THIS IS PROPERTY FURTHER NORTH ALONG SOUTH 22nd STREET, SO
8:01:10PM SOME OF THE AREA IS CHANGING AND HAS SOME SINGLE-FAMILY

8:01:14PM ATTACHED AS WELL AS MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
8:01:16PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
8:01:18PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
8:01:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
8:01:22PM APPLICANT?
8:01:30PM >> ALEX RIOS.
8:01:34PM THIS PROJECT PROPOSES TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM
8:01:42PM RM-16 TO PD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
8:01:46PM THE PROJECT PROPOSES A TOTAL OF TWO BUILDINGS WHICH CONTAIN
8:01:49PM SIX TOWNHOMES FOR A TOTAL OF 12 UNITS.
8:01:52PM WE ARE PROPOSING A PD IN LIEU OF A EUCLIDEAN REZONING DUE TO
8:01:57PM THE CHALLENGE WITH TREES, LIMITED REAR ALLEY ACCESS, AND OUR
8:02:00PM INTENT OF PROVIDING AN ENGAGING STREET FRONT BY PROVIDING
8:02:03PM PARKING TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
8:02:06PM WE ARE REQUESTING TWO WAIVERS FOR A REDUCED AISLE WIDTH FROM
8:02:11PM 24 TO 22 AS WELL AS REQUESTING ONE -- REMOVAL OF ONE GRAND
8:02:16PM TREE.
8:02:17PM IN LIGHT OF THESE WAIVERS, WE HAVE WORKED CLOSELY WITH STAFF
8:02:21PM TO PUT FORTH A DESIGN THAT PROVIDES AMPLE PARKING AS WELL AS
8:02:24PM PRESERVE MANY EXISTING TREES.
8:02:27PM WITH THAT, WE ARE PLEASED WITH STAFF'S FINDINGS THAT THE
8:02:30PM PROJECT IS CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL DEPARTMENTS, AND WITH THE
8:02:33PM CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
8:02:36PM WITH THAT I'LL CONCLUDE.
8:02:38PM THANK YOU.

8:02:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
8:02:42PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
8:02:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I LOVED THE DESIGN OF
8:02:46PM THIS BECAUSE OF THE WAY YOU REALLY UTILIZED THE ALLEY AND
8:02:51PM THE PARKING IN THE BACK, THE THOUGHT TO THE TREES WITH THE
8:02:55PM SIDEWALKS THAT WENT AROUND.
8:02:57PM MY ONLY QUESTION WAS WHY YOU HAVE A DRIVE AISLE FROM THE
8:03:01PM STREET INSTEAD OF SIMPLY USING THE ALLEY.
8:03:03PM I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
8:03:05PM >> WE WEREN'T ABLE TO USE THE ALLEY ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
8:03:08PM THERE IS A GRAND TREE TOWARDS THE END.
8:03:10PM THERE MAY HAVE BEEN OTHER CONCERNS WITH THAT, BUT WE WEREN'T
8:03:14PM ABLE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE ALLEYWAY.
8:03:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS JUST CURIOUS, BUT THANK YOU.
8:03:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
8:03:22PM IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
8:03:25PM THIS, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9?
8:03:29PM SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
8:03:35PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
8:03:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
8:03:40PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:03:42PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:03:42PM THANK YOU.
8:03:44PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:03:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-104,

8:03:54PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
8:03:56PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
8:03:58PM 2009 AND 2015 SAXON STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
8:04:03PM AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
8:04:06PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS RM-16, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY,
8:04:11PM AND RO-1, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
8:04:14PM RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
8:04:17PM DATE.
8:04:17PM ALSO ADOPT THE FINDINGS AND REASONS OF THE PLANNING
8:04:22PM COMMISSION AND CITY STAFF REPORTS, PROPOSED REZONING IS
8:04:26PM CONSISTENT WITH THE HOUSING POLICY 1.3.1 AND 1.3.4, WHICH
8:04:30PM ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO
8:04:34PM ENSURE ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING IS AVAILABLE TO MEET THE
8:04:38PM NEEDS OF TAMPA RESIDENTS AND FUTURE POPULATIONS.
8:04:40PM >> WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:04:44PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:04:45PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:04:46PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
8:04:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:04:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:04:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:04:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
8:04:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:04:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:05:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.

8:05:03PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8:05:05PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 2nd,
8:05:09PM 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
8:05:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:05:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION BEFORE WE GO ON JUST
8:05:21PM BECAUSE WE ALREADY OPENED THE DISCUSSION ABOUT PLANNED
8:05:23PM DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT.
8:05:24PM JUST SOMETHING THE APPLICANT SAID ABOUT CHOOSING PLANNED
8:05:27PM DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY WAIVERS POSSIBLE.
8:05:30PM BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THE WAIVERS WERE THINGS THAT COULD STILL
8:05:35PM COME IN FRONT OF US AND BE OKAYED.
8:05:38PM AGAIN, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO OPEN THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE
8:05:40PM IF HE'S TRYING TO SAVE TREES AND MOVE FRONTAGE, THOSE ARE
8:05:44PM THE TYPES OF THINGS WE SHOULD BE ENCOURAGING WITHOUT
8:05:47PM BRINGING IT TO A PD.
8:05:50PM IT JUST ALARMED ME TO HEAR THAT HE HAD TO GO TO A PD BECAUSE
8:05:55PM OF THESE THINGS.
8:05:56PM I KNOW WE'RE WORKING ON LAND USE REFORM, BUT I FELT I REALLY
8:06:01PM NEEDED TO SAY THAT.
8:06:03PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO AND I KNOW ALL
8:06:07PM OF THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THESE ARE THE TYPES OF
8:06:10PM THINGS -- THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE
8:06:13PM PEOPLE TO DO UNDER THE NORMAL ZONING.
8:06:17PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
8:06:18PM THANK YOU.

8:06:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 10, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-111.
8:06:31PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:06:35PM COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1210 EAST
8:06:39PM COLUMBUS DRIVE.
8:06:41PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM YC-2, YBOR CITY
8:06:46PM RESIDENTIAL, TO YC-9.
8:06:48PM YBOR CITY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR
8:06:51PM BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE ON-SITE.
8:06:53PM I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER FOR HER REPORT AND I'LL COME
8:06:56PM BACK AND GIVE MY REPORT.
8:06:58PM THANK YOU.
8:07:00PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION
8:07:02PM STAFF.
8:07:02PM CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY VM YBOR
8:07:06PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:07:07PM IT IS IN THE YBOR LOCAL AND NATIONAL DISTRICTS.
8:07:09PM AS WELL AS THE EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
8:07:13PM CUSCADEN PARK IS THE CLOSEST RECREATIONAL FACILITY.
8:07:17PM TRANSIT STOP ABOUT 250 FEET TO THE EAST OF THE SITE SERVED
8:07:20PM BY HART ROUTE 15, AND IT IS WITHIN A LEVEL E EVACUATION
8:07:24PM ZONE.
8:07:25PM SO THERE'S -- IT'S IN THE RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE
8:07:29PM CATEGORY, AND THEY ARE ASKING FOR A NONRESIDENTIAL USE.
8:07:33PM SO IN THIS CASE, THE SITE TYPICALLY HAS TO MEET LOCATIONAL
8:07:37PM CRITERIA.

8:07:38PM I'M GOING TO SHOW THIS POLICY 5.1.7.
8:07:43PM THE LAST PIECE OF THIS POLICY SAYS REUSE PROJECTS ARE EXEMPT
8:07:46PM FROM THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING AND
8:07:50PM RESIDENTIAL OFFICE USES, WHICH IS WHAT THIS APPLICANT IS
8:07:52PM REQUESTING.
8:07:53PM THIS IS SOMETHING I THINK IT WAS BUILT IN THE EARLY 1900s.
8:07:57PM SO IT'S CONSIDERED REUSE PROJECT.
8:07:59PM IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PLAN SUPPORTS.
8:08:01PM THERE'S ALSO A STATEMENT HERE IN THE PLAN AS WELL THAT'S IN
8:08:09PM OUR STAFF REPORT, THAT ANYTHING IN THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC
8:08:12PM DISTRICT IS EXEMPT FROM THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
8:08:15PM SO THAT'S TO SUPPORT THE MIX OF USES THAT YBOR HAS AND TO
8:08:19PM CONTINUE ALLOWING THOSE.
8:08:20PM SO THAT IS WHY THERE IS A NONRESIDENTIAL USE BEFORE YOU IN A
8:08:23PM RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CATEGORY IS BECAUSE THE PLAN IS
8:08:26PM SUPPORTING THAT IN YBOR SPECIFICALLY.
8:08:28PM SO HERE IT IS.
8:08:31PM IT IS ON EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE JUST EAST OF NORTH 12th
8:08:35PM STREET.
8:08:36PM THERE IS A FIRE STATION ACTUALLY HERE AT THE CORNER, AND
8:08:40PM THIS PORTION OF EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE IS PRETTY MUCH
8:08:42PM RESIDENTIAL USES.
8:08:45PM THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL 20, WHICH IS MOSTLY THE
8:08:50PM PATTERN HERE AND THEN TO THE NORTH IS RESIDENTIAL 10, WHICH
8:08:53PM IS TYPICALLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL 20 ALLOWS

8:08:56PM LIMITED NONRESIDENTIAL USES LIKE IS BEFORE YOU TODAY AND
8:09:00PM SOME HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES.
8:09:04PM SO THE PLAN IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THIS TYPE OF
8:09:07PM REDEVELOPMENT.
8:09:08PM WE ALSO FOUND THIS IS ON A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR WHICH
8:09:12PM IS AGAIN -- INTENSIFICATION IN ALLOWING THE NONRESIDENTIAL
8:09:15PM USES.
8:09:16PM WE FOUND THAT THE REZONING WOULD ALLOW FOR BETTER
8:09:20PM UTILIZATION OF THE LAND AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENSITY
8:09:24PM ANTICIPATED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE
8:09:27PM DESIGNATION.
8:09:27PM ALSO THIS REZONING HAS CREATED A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED
8:09:30PM DEVELOPMENT BY PROVIDING SIDEWALKS.
8:09:31PM AND REALLY KEEPING WITH THAT URBAN FEEL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:09:36PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
8:09:39PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
8:09:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
8:09:44PM NO.
8:09:45PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:09:45PM YES, MA'AM.
8:09:47PM >> THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
8:09:49PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:09:52PM THIS REZONING REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR A BUSINESS
8:09:55PM PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, AND IT WOULD CONTAIN 1,898 SQUARE FEET.
8:10:00PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY.

8:10:02PM LET ME ZOOM IN ON IT A LITTLE.
8:10:06PM SO THIS IS THE SITE LOCATED, THIS IS COLUMBUS DRIVE.
8:10:10PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY, WHICH IS DOTTED, THE DOTTED
8:10:15PM LINE ON-SITE, AND THIS IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, WHICH IS
8:10:18PM ON-SITE.
8:10:19PM AND THEN THERE IS AN EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT'S
8:10:23PM THERE, AND YOU'LL SEE IN THE PICTURES THAT I'LL SHOW
8:10:27PM MOMENTARILY AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS RIBBON DRIVEWAY THAT
8:10:30PM EXISTS ON THE SITE, BUT THE STRUCTURE THAT IS ON-SITE WILL
8:10:36PM REMAIN, AS MENTIONED.
8:10:37PM THIS DOES ALLOW FOR ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THIS STRUCTURE
8:10:41PM ON-SITE, AND IS IN KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER THAT'S IN THE
8:10:46PM SURROUNDING AREA.
8:10:47PM THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 35 FEET.
8:10:50PM THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE,
8:10:54PM THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT AND YBOR CITY LOCAL
8:10:57PM HISTORIC DISTRICT.
8:10:59PM THE BLC, BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION, HEARD THIS REQUEST, AND
8:11:03PM THIS WAS ON OCTOBER 25th AND THERE WAS A VOTE TO RECOMMEND
8:11:10PM APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.
8:11:11PM ON PAGE 3 OF THE STAFF REPORT, YOU'LL FIND THE HISTORIC
8:11:14PM PRESERVATION COMMENTS AND THEY ARE RELATED TO THAT MOTION
8:11:18PM FROM THE BLC.
8:11:21PM SO ON THE SITE PLAN DIRECTLY AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS THE
8:11:24PM VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THE SITE.

8:11:26PM ONE THING TO NOTE IS THAT THERE IS A WAIVER ON THIS SITE AND
8:11:30PM THAT IS TO REDUCE THE PARKING TO ZERO.
8:11:32PM SO IF YOU ARE GOING TO PROVIDE PARKING ON-SITE, AT LEAST ONE
8:11:36PM OF YOUR -- I SHOULD SAY CODE REQUIRED PARKING, IF YOU ARE
8:11:41PM MEETING THE CODE STANDARDS, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE ONE ADA
8:11:45PM SPACE.
8:11:45PM IF YOU'RE GOING TO PROVIDE TWO PARKING SPACES, AT LEAST ONE
8:11:48PM HAS TO BE AN ADA SPACE.
8:11:50PM ON THIS SITE THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO PROVIDE THE ADA
8:11:53PM SPACE AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ANY OTHER PARKING SPACES.
8:11:55PM SO THE OPTION WAS TO REDUCE IT TO THE PARKING REQUIRED TO
8:11:59PM ZERO, AND THAT IS TO KEEP THE STRUCTURE THE WAY IT IS AND TO
8:12:04PM KEEP THE SITE THE WAY IT IS.
8:12:05PM SO IT WAS SUPPORTED BY THE BLC.
8:12:08PM AND BY STAFF.
8:12:09PM AND THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.
8:12:12PM THIS IS THE ZONING MAP.
8:12:16PM ZOOM BACK OUT, IF I CAN.
8:12:18PM SO THIS IS THE SITE.
8:12:20PM THIS IS COLUMBUS DRIVE.
8:12:22PM THIS IS 12th STREET.
8:12:24PM AND THIS IS THE SITE IDENTIFIED HERE IN RED, AND YOU'LL SEE
8:12:28PM ALONG THE CORRIDOR FOR COLUMBUS DRIVE THE YC-2 ZONING
8:12:33PM DISTRICT.
8:12:37PM THESE ARE ELEVATIONS OF THE SITE, PHOTOS OF IT.

8:12:41PM THE UPPER RIGHT, THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION, THE REAR OF
8:12:45PM THE BUILDING.
8:12:47PM THIS IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, AND THIS IS A VIEW OF THE
8:12:52PM SIDE.
8:12:52PM THIS IS THE WEST ELEVATION, AND THEN THAT IS THE EAST
8:12:58PM ELEVATION, THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.
8:13:00PM AND THEN HERE ARE SITE PHOTOS.
8:13:06PM ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
8:13:07PM THESE ARE PRETTY BIG.
8:13:08PM SO THIS IS THE SITE ON COLUMBUS, AND YOU CAN SEE THE STAIRS
8:13:12PM THAT ARE LEADING TO THE STRUCTURE, AND THAT IS THE REASON
8:13:15PM THE ADA COULD NOT BE PROVIDED ON-SITE, THE ADA SPACE.
8:13:21PM THAT'S ANOTHER VIEW AND YOU CAN SEE THE STRUCTURE THAT IS
8:13:25PM NEXT DOOR AT THE RESIDENTIAL.
8:13:28PM THIS IS A VIEW IF YOU'RE LOOKING EAST ON COLUMBUS, WE'LL
8:13:33PM SWING AROUND TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE AND THAT'S LOOKING
8:13:36PM EAST.
8:13:36PM THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE, AND THEN THIS IS FURTHER WEST OF
8:13:41PM THE SITE.
8:13:42PM THAT IS COMMERCIAL.
8:13:42PM THAT'S LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF 12th STREET.
8:13:45PM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
8:13:50PM READING.
8:13:50PM DRC HAS FOUND THE REQUEST CONSISTENT.
8:13:52PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

8:13:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOCK?
8:13:56PM THANK YOU.
8:13:58PM PETITIONER?
8:14:05PM >> GOOD EVENING.
8:14:06PM JEREL McCANTS.
8:14:08PM I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
8:14:09PM AS WAS STATED, I'M NOT PROPOSING ANY TYPE OF EXTERIOR
8:14:18PM MODIFICATIONS IN KEEPING WITH THE HISTORIC FABRIC OF THE
8:14:21PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:14:22PM I'M ONLY REQUESTING YC 2 TO YC 9 SITE CONTROLLED TO ALLOW
8:14:27PM FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICE USE, WHICH WILL BE PROFESSIONAL
8:14:33PM OFFICE RUNNING A SMALL ARCHITECTURAL FIRM.
8:14:35PM I AM IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL THE CITY AND BARRIO LATINO
8:14:40PM REQUIREMENTS AND WAIVERS STATING TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING
8:14:43PM BOUNDARIES AND ALLOW FOR AN EXISTING NEW FENCE TO BE LOCATED
8:14:49PM ON THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.
8:14:51PM AND ALSO INSTALLATION OF NEW RIBBONS THAT WERE DEMOLISHED
8:14:59PM DUE TO THE ADJACENT CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR.
8:15:02PM AND THE RIBBONS WILL BE IN CONFORMING WITH THE 3-2-3
8:15:05PM STANDARD REQUIREMENT FOR YBOR CITY RIBBONS FOR DRIVEWAYS.
8:15:09PM ADDITIONAL PARKING WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE THROUGH THE ON-STREET
8:15:17PM PARKING THAT WAS STRIPED DURING THE STREET BEAUTIFICATION
8:15:22PM PROJECT LAST YEAR, WHICH RECENTLY WAS COMPLETED AND ALLOWED
8:15:25PM FOR PARALLEL PARKING ALONG WITH THE BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT.
8:15:32PM AGAIN, HERE ARE SOME EXISTING PICTURES OF THE EXISTING

8:15:42PM CONDITIONS TO THE NORTH AND THEN TO THE SOUTH ELEVATION AND
8:15:48PM THEN ALSO TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST.
8:15:54PM I HAVE ONE PICTURE OF EXISTING CONDITION RIGHT NOW WHERE THE
8:15:58PM NEW RIBBONS WILL BE INSTALLED DUE TO THE DEMOLITION AND
8:16:03PM CONSTRUCTION OF THE ADJACENT TWO AND A HALF STORY BUILDING
8:16:09PM TO THE WEST.
8:16:10PM THE NEW RIBBONS WOULD BE INSTALLED IN THE SAME LOCATION THAT
8:16:13PM THEY WERE PRIOR EXCAVATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF EXISTING --
8:16:20PM NOW EXISTING RESIDENCE.
8:16:22PM SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
8:16:24PM I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE MY REZONING.
8:16:29PM THANK YOU.
8:16:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
8:16:31PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO
8:16:40PM SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10?
8:16:42PM SEEING NONE, DID WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
8:16:48PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:16:51PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:16:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:16:53PM THANK YOU.
8:16:55PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:16:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BEFORE I START, I JUST WANT TO SAY I LOVE
8:17:01PM THIS HOUSE.
8:17:02PM I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU'RE SAVING IT.
8:17:04PM I GOT TO SEE IT ON THE VM YBOR HOME TOUR A FEW YEARS AGO.

8:17:09PM SO THANK YOU.
8:17:10PM FILE NUMBER REZ 22-111, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
8:17:17PM READING CONSIDERATION.
8:17:17PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
8:17:19PM 1210 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
8:17:23PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
8:17:26PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION YC-2, YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT TO
8:17:31PM YC-9, YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL
8:17:35PM OFFICE; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
8:17:39PM AND INCLUDING THE ZONING IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE
8:17:47PM GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
8:17:50PM SUCH AS THE REZONING WILL NOT ALTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S
8:17:53PM CHARACTER CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE POLICIES 1.2.10, 9.3.1,
8:17:58PM AND 15.2.4 AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
8:18:05PM SECTION 27-136, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROMOTES AND
8:18:09PM ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION,
8:18:12PM CHARACTER, AND COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
8:18:14PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
8:18:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU PLEASE INCLUDE THE REVISION SHEET?
8:18:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND INCLUDING THE REVISION SHEET.
8:18:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
8:18:23PM HURTAK.
8:18:24PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:18:26PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:18:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALTERNATIVE I CAN'T.

8:18:32PM DOES ANYBODY KNOW A VERY FAMOUS HOUSE AROUND THE CORNER AND
8:18:36PM WHAT HAPPENED THERE?
8:18:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWO HOUSES.
8:18:41PM ON THE OTHER SIDE JUST ACROSS THE STREET ACROSS FROM THE
8:18:47PM FIRE STATION, THE GARAGE UPSTAIRS, WHERE TONY LaRUSSA
8:18:54PM LIVED.
8:18:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHARLIE WALL'S UNSOLVED MURDER, STILL A
8:18:57PM COLD CASE IN TAMPA FROM 1955.
8:19:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE PARAKEETS DON'T TALK.
8:19:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TWO DOBERMAN PINSCHERS DIDN'T BARK.
8:19:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK I KNOW WHO DID IT.
8:19:16PM [ LAUGHTER ]
8:19:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
8:19:20PM HURTAK.
8:19:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:19:22PM DARE I ASK IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:19:24PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
8:19:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:19:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:19:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
8:19:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:19:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:19:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:19:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
8:19:38PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

8:19:40PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 2nd,
8:19:45PM 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
8:19:48PM >> THANK YOU.
8:19:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, FILE NUMBER
8:19:54PM REZ-22-119.
8:19:58PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:20:00PM THIS CASE BEFORE YOU IS TO REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RS 60 TO
8:20:05PM RS 50, PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4107 EAST REGNAS AVENUE.
8:20:10PM TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
8:20:13PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
8:20:14PM COMMISSION.
8:20:14PM WHEN I WAS PREPARING TODAY, I REALIZED THAT WE MADE A
8:20:17PM MISTAKE IN OUR REPORT ABOUT SOME STREET NAMES WHEN WE WERE
8:20:20PM DOING OUR DENSITY ANALYSIS, SO I HAVE NINE REVISED COPIES
8:20:23PM THAT I'M GOING TO PASS OVER TO MARTY.
8:20:26PM JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT DIDN'T AFFECT OUR ANALYSIS.
8:20:34PM WE WERE JUST PUT SOME INCORRECT STREET NAMES IN THERE.
8:20:38PM BUT THE ANALYSIS REMAINS THE SAME.
8:20:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE ALL HUMAN.
8:20:46PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: THANK YOU.
8:20:47PM THIS IS LOCATED IN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE
8:20:52PM TEMPLE CREST NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:20:53PM THERE IS TRANSIT LOCATED NEARBY THE SUBJECT SITE.
8:20:57PM TEMPLE CREST PARK IS THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATIONAL
8:20:59PM FACILITY AND IS NOT WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE.

8:21:02PM I WILL SHOW AN AERIAL.
8:21:09PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED HERE.
8:21:12PM IT IS EAST OF NORTH 40th STREET.
8:21:15PM AND SO WHEN WE DID THE DENSITY ANALYSIS THAT IS MENTIONED IN
8:21:19PM THE STAFF ANALYSIS WHERE WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE AVERAGE
8:21:23PM EXISTING DENSITY SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT SITE, SINCE IT'S ON
8:21:27PM THE CORNER, WE LOOKED FROM ON REGNAS FROM GREENWOOD ALL THE
8:21:32PM WAY TO TANGERINE, WHICH IS OFF OF THE AERIAL, AND THEN ALONG
8:21:36PM ORANGE VIEW AVENUE AS WELL FROM BIRD STREET ALL THE WAY TO
8:21:44PM SEAWARD WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT OFF OF THE AERIAL.
8:21:46PM WE TRIED TO TAKE A PRETTY WIDE LOOK AT THE DENSITY AND WE
8:21:50PM FOUND THAT IT CAN BE CONSIDERED UNDERUTILIZED SINCE THIS
8:21:53PM AREA IS PLANNED FOR 10 DWELLING UNITS AN ACRE.
8:21:56PM I BELIEVE OUR REPORT SAYS IT'S DEVELOPED AT ABOUT 55% OF ITS
8:22:00PM AVERAGE DENSITY.
8:22:01PM SO THAT'S WITH THE RESIDENTIAL 10 ON THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP
8:22:05PM IS REPRESENTING THAT THE AREA IS PLANNED FOR 10 DWELLING
8:22:07PM UNITS AN ACRE AND THEN WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
8:22:11PM ALONG NORTH 40th STREET WHICH IS WHERE THE COMMERCIAL USES
8:22:13PM ARE.
8:22:14PM YES, SO ONE PORTION, ONE STREET WAS DEVELOPED AT 57% OF THE
8:22:21PM DENSITY AND ANOTHER AT 55% OF THE DENSITY.
8:22:24PM SO THIS ANALYSIS DEMONSTRATES THAT THIS AREA OF THE CITY CAN
8:22:28PM BE CONSIDERED UNDERDEVELOPED WITH RESPECT TO THE DENSITY
8:22:30PM ANTICIPATED ALONG THESE SEGMENTS.

8:22:32PM THIS REQUEST SUPPORTS LU POLICY 2.1.2 WHICH SEEKS TO USE
8:22:36PM LAND RESOURCES MORE EFFICIENTLY BY ENCOURAGING INFILL
8:22:40PM DEVELOPMENT ON UNDERUTILIZED SITES.
8:22:42PM WE FOUND THAT THIS SUPPORTS MANY POLICIES IN THE
8:22:46PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ENCOURAGING NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND
8:22:49PM UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE SUPPLY FOR
8:22:53PM TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION, AND WE FOUND THAT THIS WOULD
8:22:56PM SEEK TO MAINTAIN THE STABILITY OF EXISTING AREAS WHILE
8:22:59PM EXPANDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOUSING CHOICES IN THOSE
8:23:02PM SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS.
8:23:02PM AGAIN, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
8:23:05PM THANK YOU.
8:23:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
8:23:08PM THANK YOU.
8:23:08PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
8:23:10PM PLAN, YES.
8:23:15PM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:23:18PM YOU SAID YOU HAD A QUESTION.
8:23:26PM I'M SORRY.
8:23:26PM AGAIN, THIS IS TO REZONE FROM RS-60 TO RS-50 FOR 4107 EAST
8:23:26PM REGNAS AVENUE.
8:23:26PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS APPROXIMATELY 13,000 SQUARE FEET LOCATED
8:23:30PM ON THE CORNER OF EAST REGNAS AVENUE AND NORTH ORANGE VIEW
8:23:35PM AVENUE.
8:23:36PM SO THE PROPERTY IS TWO PLATTED LOTS.

8:23:40PM I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THIS PLAT.
8:23:46PM LET ME ZOOM OUT A BIT.
8:23:47PM THIS PLAT WAS DONE OR PLATTED AND RECORDED IN 1925.
8:23:55PM AT THE TOP IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, LOTS 26 AND 27 OF BLOCK
8:24:03PM 26.
8:24:03PM SO I JUST WANTED TO SHOW YOU HOW IT WAS PLATTED OVERALL IN
8:24:06PM 1925, THAT YOU CAN SEE SOME LOTS WERE PLATTED AT 60 FEET
8:24:10PM WIDE AND OTHERS WERE PLATTED AT 50 FEET WIDE.
8:24:13PM BECAUSE THE SITE IS ZONED -- SO PART OF THE SITE IS ZONED --
8:24:30PM I'M SORRY.
8:24:30PM ON YOUR LEFT I KIND OF ZOOMED IN TO GIVE YOU A ZONING
8:24:35PM OVERVIEW SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
8:24:38PM THE SALMON COLOR, WHICH THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED AS THE RS 60.
8:24:45PM TO THE LEFT IS CG.
8:24:47PM YOU CAN SEE ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE LOTS ARE PLATTED AT 50 FEET
8:24:49PM AND 60 FEET, THEY ARE ALL ZONED RS 60.
8:24:53PM I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE PLAT AND THEN
8:24:55PM THE ZONING AS WELL.
8:24:57PM CONTINUING ON, THE PROPERTY, SHOW YOU THE PROPERTY AND
8:25:04PM SURROUNDING ZONING.
8:25:05PM IT'S HARDER TO SEE ON THIS MAP HERE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT CG
8:25:09PM ZONED PORTION AND RS 60 ZONED PORTION TO THE EAST.
8:25:12PM PROPERTY LOCATED DIRECTLY NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST OF THE
8:25:16PM SUBJECT SITE IS ZONED RS 60 AND DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE-FAMILY
8:25:20PM DETACHED USES.

8:25:21PM AFTER EVALUATING THE SURVEY THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE
8:25:23PM APPLICANT, IT APPEARS THAT IF REZONED, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY
8:25:28PM COULD BE DIVIDED INTO TWO 50-FOOT WIDE LOTS APPROXIMATELY.
8:25:32PM THE REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO RS 50 IS INCONSISTENT
8:25:37PM BASED ON THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE OVERALL
8:25:39PM STUDY AREA.
8:25:40PM I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THE MAP OF THE OVERALL STUDY AREA.
8:25:45PM TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE WIDTH OF PARCELS IN THE AREA
8:25:56PM AND THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF EXISTING LOTS.
8:25:58PM SO THE OVERALL STUDY AREA, 36% WERE ZONED OR WERE DEVELOPED
8:26:08PM AT 59.99.
8:26:15PM I'M SORRY, 64 WERE DEVELOPED WITH A 60-FOOT OR GREATER AND
8:26:19PM 114 OR 36 WERE DEVELOPED WITH 59.99 FEET OR LESS IN WIDTH.
8:26:25PM HOWEVER, THE SUBJECT BLOCK AND THE BLOCK FACE OF NORTH
8:26:30PM ORANGE VIEW AVENUE, SO THIS AREA HERE, DEVELOPED WITH 59 --
8:26:36PM MAJORITY WERE DEVELOPED WITH 59.99 FEET OR LESS.
8:26:40PM BASED UPON THAT, THE CURRENT ZONING SHOWN, AS YOU CAN SEE
8:26:51PM BETTER ON THIS MAP, THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SPOT ZONING
8:26:56PM EVEN THOUGH THE LOTS WERE PLATTED 50 FEET WIDE.
8:27:00PM MOST OF THEM IN THIS AREA.
8:27:03PM I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF THE OVERALL.
8:27:07PM SO HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
8:27:09PM AND THIS IS THE SITE FACING SOUTH FROM EAST REGNAS AVENUE.
8:27:15PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE FACING BOTH SIDES OF EAST REGNAS
8:27:19PM AVENUE FACING WEST.

8:27:21PM THIS IS PROPERTY DIRECTLY EAST OF THE SITE.
8:27:25PM THE PROPERTY NORTHEAST OF THE SITE.
8:27:30PM SOUTH OF THE SITE.
8:27:34PM AND NORTH OF THE SITE, ACROSS EAST REGNAS AVENUE.
8:27:39PM BASED UPON THE ZONING, IT'S CONSIDERED REZONING TO RS-50
8:27:46PM WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SPOT REZONING.
8:27:47PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
8:27:49PM I HOPE THAT CLEARED UP EVERYTHING.
8:27:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
8:27:55PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
8:28:10PM >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.
8:28:12PM WE APPRECIATE YOU SAVING THE BEST REQUEST FOR LAST TONIGHT.
8:28:16PM THANK YOU.
8:28:17PM IT'S GOOD PLANNING.
8:28:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF YOU SAY SO YOURSELF.
8:28:20PM >> I DO SAY SO MYSELF.
8:28:21PM LET ME INTRODUCE TO YOU SOUAD MANSOUR.
8:28:24PM SHE IS THE PROPERTY OWNER THIS EVENING.
8:28:26PM I DO HAVE A PowerPoint.
8:28:33PM I GUESS SOUAD HAS NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
8:28:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
8:28:39PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
8:28:41PM YOU'RE ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
8:28:44PM >> I DO.
8:28:44PM >> YES.

8:28:45PM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
8:28:47PM >> I DO HAVE A PowerPoint FOR YOU, PLEASE.
8:28:49PM THIS IS REZ 22-119.
8:28:52PM WE ARE REZONING FROM RS 60 TO RS 50 FOR .3 ACRES WHICH WOULD
8:28:57PM ALLOW TWO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
8:28:59PM WE'RE LOCATED CLOSE TO THE RIVER, SOUTH OF 580.
8:29:04PM LOOKING A LITTLE CLOSER, WE'RE ON EAST REGNAS OR EAST REGNAS
8:29:09PM IS RUNNING EAST-WEST, NORTH 40th STREET AND EAST RIVER
8:29:14PM HILLS IS TO THE SOUTH.
8:29:17PM A LITTLE CLOSER YOU CAN SEE THE SITE ALIGNED HERE BY THE
8:29:20PM PROPERTY APPRAISER.
8:29:20PM IT'S AT THE CORNER OF EAST REGNAS AND NORTH ORANGE VIEW
8:29:25PM AVENUE.
8:29:25PM THE REZONING ISSUES DISCUSSED BEFORE TONIGHT BASICALLY COME
8:29:28PM DOWN TO TWO ISSUES.
8:29:29PM ONE IS LOT WIDTH, 60 FEET VERSUS 50, AND CONSISTENCY OF THE
8:29:36PM DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
8:29:37PM YOU'VE HEARD THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE AN OUTSTANDING
8:29:41PM PRESENTATION THAT WE ARE CONSISTENT.
8:29:45PM ZONING STAFF HAD A DIFFERENT OPINION.
8:29:47PM BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THAT THE ZONING STAFF HAS GIVEN
8:29:52PM YOU A DENIAL/NON-DENIAL.
8:29:55PM SO IN POLITICAL TERMS, MANY YEARS AGO, JOHN KERRY MADE,
8:30:01PM VOTED FOR, VOTED AGAINST IT.
8:30:03PM SAME THING.

8:30:04PM IF YOU READ THE CITY STAFF REPORT, THEY NOTE THAT THE
8:30:08PM REQUESTED REZONING IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING
8:30:11PM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE OVERALL AREA, BUT IS CONSISTENT
8:30:14PM WITH THE BLOCK AND THE BLOCK FACE.
8:30:19PM IT'S A DENIAL/NON-DENIAL OR MAYBE DENIAL/SUPPORT.
8:30:22PM AND THEY SHOWED YOU THE COMPARABLES, LOT SIZES.
8:30:27PM AND YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE JUST BY THE COLORS AND THE
8:30:30PM DIMENSIONS SHOWN HERE THAT IT IS A VERY MIXED AREA.
8:30:33PM SOME ARE 50 TO 54 FEET.
8:30:36PM SOME ARE 55 FEET.
8:30:38PM VERY SUBSTANTIALLY THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE AREA.
8:30:39PM NOT REAL CONSISTENT.
8:30:41PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL PLAT AS ANNIE SHOWED YOU, THE
8:30:45PM ORIGINAL PLAT WAS 49.99 FEET, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE
8:30:49PM ASKING FOR.
8:30:49PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOTING IT'S CONSISTENT CAME FORWARD
8:30:56PM WITH ANOTHER POINT WHICH I THINK WAS VERY IMPORTANT AND VERY
8:30:59PM INSIGHTFUL THAT THEY NOTE THAT THE REQUEST WOULD ENCOURAGE
8:31:04PM DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE BUILT WITH THE EXISTING LOT
8:31:06PM CONFIGURATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT REFERRING TO POLICY
8:31:11PM 2.1.2 SEEKS TO USE LAND RESOURCES MORE EFFICIENTLY BY
8:31:17PM ENCOURAGING INFILL DEVELOPMENT, THAT THE AREA IS
8:31:20PM UNDERUTILIZED.
8:31:22PM THAT'S A REFLECTION OF THE SIZE OF THE LOTS AND THE ZONING
8:31:26PM REQUESTED.

8:31:26PM THAT IS CONSISTENT AND THE REASON FOR IT.
8:31:29PM GOES A STEP OR TWO FURTHER IN OUR OPINION.
8:31:31PM ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ARE FINDING CONSISTENT EXCEPT FOR
8:31:35PM DEVELOPMENT OR FOR YOUR ZONING STAFF FOR THE REASONS WHY I
8:31:38PM LISTED.
8:31:38PM ANOTHER CONSIDERATION OR GUIDE POST FOR YOU IS THAT THE AREA
8:31:44PM ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY IS R-10.
8:31:48PM THREE UNITS WOULD BE RECOGNIZED UNDER THE COMP PLAN IN TERMS
8:31:50PM OF DENSITY.
8:31:51PM THE RESULT OF THE REZONING WOULD ONLY BE TWO.
8:31:55PM AND BECAUSE THIS IS A SMALL REQUEST, BASICALLY MEETING THE
8:32:01PM DENSITY IN THE AREA, THERE REALLY IS NO IMPACT ON
8:32:06PM INFRASTRUCTURE, SCHOOLS, PARKS, WATER, OR ANYTHING OF THAT
8:32:09PM NATURE.
8:32:09PM NOW, WE DO HAVE SOME REALLY GOOD SUPPORT FOR THE REQUEST
8:32:13PM FROM VERY CLOSELY LOCATED NEIGHBORS.
8:32:15PM WE HAVE FOUR LETTERS FROM YOU WHICH ARE THE TWO PROPERTY
8:32:21PM OWNERS TO THE REAR.
8:32:22PM WE WERE ABLE TO GET HOLD OF ONE TOWARDS THE FRONT.
8:32:25PM COULDN'T GET HOLD OF THE OTHER FOLK AND THEN ACROSS THE
8:32:29PM STREET.
8:32:29PM JUST ABOUT ALL THE WAY AROUND WE HAVE SUPPORT DOCUMENTED
8:32:31PM FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
8:32:32PM AND WE ALSO DID RECEIVE -- HE DOESN'T VOTE, SO YOU CAN TREAT
8:32:39PM HIM RUDELY.

8:32:40PM [ LAUGHTER ]
8:32:41PM THE OTHERS YOU HAVE TO TREAT REAL NICE.
8:32:43PM THIS IS FROM THE TEMPLE CREST CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND THEY ARE
8:32:50PM ALSO IN THE REQUEST.
8:32:55PM SOUAD WAS ABLE TO BRING THAT UP AND GET THAT TODAY.
8:32:58PM THE ZONING RECOMMENDATION IS A DENIAL/NON-DENIAL.
8:33:01PM PLANNING COMMISSION SUPPORTS IT COMPLETELY.
8:33:02PM NOTES IT CONSISTENT AS BETTER UTILIZATION.
8:33:05PM WE MEET THE ORIGINAL PLAT EXACTLY.
8:33:09PM NINE CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE CONSISTENT.
8:33:11PM PLANNING COMMISSION TELLS YOU IT'S IN LINE.
8:33:13PM FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY MEETS IT AND EXCEEDS IT, AND WE
8:33:17PM HAVE VERY GOOD DOCUMENTATION OF SUPPORTING OWNERS.
8:33:20PM THE LAST THING I'LL SHOW YOU IS THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN IN
8:33:23PM VERY BAD SHAPE SINCE SOUAD HAS HAD IT.
8:33:28PM TRYING TO GET THROUGH THE BUREAUCRACY SO SHE CAN TAKE DOWN
8:33:32PM WHAT'S THERE, BUILD NEW, MAKE IT REAL NICE.
8:33:34PM SO SHE'S NOT UNDER CODE CITATION, BUT SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO
8:33:37PM MOVE FORWARD.
8:33:38PM WE COULD SWITCH TO THE OVERHEAD PLEASE.
8:33:43PM AGAIN, IF WE COULD SWITCH TO THE OVERHEAD PLEASE.
8:33:55PM SOUAD HAS BEEN TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THE BUREAUCRACY.
8:34:00PM SHE WENT THROUGH A COUPLE OF ADMINISTRATIVE EXERCISES, WHICH
8:34:04PM IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY TO GET THIS DONE.
8:34:07PM SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO MOVE THE PROJECT FORWARD TO RENOVATE

8:34:10PM AND IMPROVE THE SITE COMPLETELY.
8:34:12PM THIS WOULD BE COMPLETELY REMOVED AND RENOVATED.
8:34:15PM SO THERE'S AN ECONOMIC AND BEAUTIFICATION ELEMENT TO IT AS
8:34:18PM WELL.
8:34:19PM I'LL PUT THIS IN THE RECORD.
8:34:20PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
8:34:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
8:34:23PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS THAT WOULD
8:34:29PM LIKE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, FILE REZ-22-119?
8:34:34PM IS THERE ANYONE ONLINE?
8:34:40PM >>THE CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
8:34:41PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
8:34:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
8:34:44PM MANISCALCO.
8:34:44PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:34:46PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:34:46PM THANK YOU.
8:34:49PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:34:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
8:34:55PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND THEREFORE
8:35:03PM READING AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
8:35:05PM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
8:35:08PM VICINITY OF 4107 EAST REGNAS AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
8:35:14PM FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
8:35:17PM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 60 (RESIDENTIAL,

8:35:22PM SINGLE-FAMILY) TO RS-50 (RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY);
8:35:26PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
8:35:27PM AND LET ME PROVIDE SOME FINDINGS OF FACT HERE.
8:35:32PM COMPLIANCE WITH APPLICABLE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND POLICIES
8:35:35PM IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS NOTED IN THE PLANNING
8:35:37PM COMMISSION STAFF REPORT SUCH AS THE DENSITY PROPOSED BY THE
8:35:41PM DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT EXCEED THE DENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER
8:35:43PM THE RESIDENTIAL 10 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY AND SEEKS TO USE
8:35:47PM LAND RESOURCES MORE EFFICIENTLY BY ENCOURAGING INFILL
8:35:50PM DEVELOPMENT ON UNDERUTILIZED SITES AS ENCOURAGED BY LAND USE
8:35:54PM POLICY 2.1.2, ALSO COMPLIANCE WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN
8:35:58PM THE CITY STAFF REPORT REGARDING COMPLIANCE WITH GENERAL
8:36:02PM STANDARDS, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PROMOTES OR ENCOURAGES
8:36:06PM DEVELOPMENT THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION, CHARACTER, AND
8:36:08PM COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:36:11PM ALTHOUGH 64% OF THE LOTS INCLUDED WITHIN THE AREA OF
8:36:13PM ANALYSIS ARE DEVELOPED AT A WIDTH OF 60 FEET OR GREATER,
8:36:17PM THIS PERCENTAGE SHIFTS AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE PARCEL IN
8:36:20PM QUESTION.
8:36:21PM FOR EXAMPLE, THE SUBJECT BLOCK CONTAINS 22 ZONING LOTS OF
8:36:25PM WHICH 16 HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR
8:36:30PM LESS.
8:36:31PM AND THE BLOCK ON NORTH ORANGE VIEW AVENUE CONTAINS 19 ZONING
8:36:35PM LOTS OF WHICH 15 HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED WITH A WIDTH OF 59.99
8:36:40PM FEET OR LESS.

8:36:41PM ALSO, WE HAVE IN THE RECORD A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THE
8:36:44PM TEMPLE CREST ASSOCIATION WITH SOME WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT.
8:36:49PM THAT IS MY MOTION OF APPROVAL.
8:36:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE THERE WAS A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
8:36:53PM GUDES.
8:36:53PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:36:54PM WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:36:56PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:36:59PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:37:00PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
8:37:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:37:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
8:37:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:37:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:37:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:37:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:37:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
8:37:16PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8:37:17PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON FEBRUARY 2nd,
8:37:22PM 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
8:37:25PM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
8:37:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
8:37:27PM LET'S GO TO INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
8:37:31PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
8:37:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: NONE, SIR.

8:37:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOW.
8:37:35PM LET'S EVERYBODY GO HOME.
8:37:37PM MOTION TO CLOSE.
8:37:38PM WHOA!
8:37:39PM TOOK THE DAY OFF.
8:37:44PM [ LAUGHTER ]
8:37:44PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:37:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE, SIR.
8:37:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:37:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR, I HAVE TWO, SIR.
8:37:54PM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL GIVE A COMMENDATION TO THE TAMPA
8:37:57PM ORGANIZATION OF BLACK AFFAIRS FOR THEIR 43RD ANNUAL MLK
8:37:58PM LEADERSHIP BREAKFAST, PRESENTED OFF-SITE ON JANUARY 16.
8:38:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:38:06PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:38:07PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8:38:09PM ANY OPPOSED?
8:38:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TAMPA CITY COUNCIL GIVE A COMMENDATION TO
8:38:15PM THE CITY OF TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE TO PRESENT IN
8:38:18PM THEIR PROGRAM BOOKLET IN FEBRUARY FOR THE 35th ANNUAL
8:38:21PM CELEBRATION.
8:38:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:38:24PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:38:26PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:38:27PM THANK YOU.

8:38:28PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:38:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
8:38:30PM WE ARE AT IT AGAIN, UNFORTUNATELY.
8:38:33PM I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE NELSON CONSTRUCTION AND CITY
8:38:35PM STAFF COME TO COUNCIL ON JANUARY 19, 2023, DURING STAFF
8:38:40PM REPORTS TO EXPLAIN THE FURTHER DELAY WITH THE REPIPE WORK ON
8:38:45PM CARACAS STREET AND THE DRAMA WITH CREST AVENUE.
8:38:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
8:38:50PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION JUST LIKE
8:38:52PM THAT FOR THE 19th, BUT I'M GLAD YOU DID.
8:38:55PM I KNOW THAT YOU AND I ARE GETTING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM
8:38:59PM ALL OVER.
8:39:00PM IT'S BEEN ON THE NEWS AND WHATNOT.
8:39:02PM WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
8:39:03PM I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT IT UP.
8:39:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:39:05PM I ACTUALLY DID SPEAK WITH BRAD BAIRD AND MAKE SURE THE DATE
8:39:08PM WORKS AND HE SAID THAT HE IS GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN HIS
8:39:11PM POWER TO GET THE PRESIDENT OF NELSON HERE.
8:39:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PERFECT.
8:39:15PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:39:16PM SECOND.
8:39:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
8:39:19PM HURTAK.
8:39:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

8:39:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:39:23PM ALL RIGHT.
8:39:24PM COUNCILMAN, MANISCALCO.
8:39:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEAR WITH ME.
8:39:27PM I HAVE SEVEN MOTIONS.
8:39:38PM >> I WAS GOING TO SAY I BELIEVE AFTER CONFERRING WITH SUSAN
8:39:41PM JOHNSON-VELEZ -- JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION --
8:39:44PM THAT THE FIRST MOTION WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE TONIGHT.
8:39:47PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHEET YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, IF YOU
8:39:50PM HAVE THE REVISED SHEET OR NOT.
8:39:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS TA/CPA 22-23.
8:39:58PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: TO MOVE IT TO FEBRUARY?
8:39:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, FEBRUARY 23RD AT 5:01 P.M.
8:39:59PM I DO NOT HAVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION?
8:40:01PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: THAT IS CORRECT.
8:40:02PM JUST FOR NOTICING PURPOSES, I SPOKE WITH HER.
8:40:08PM WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THAT MOTION TONIGHT.
8:40:10PM I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
8:40:12PM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PLAN AMENDMENTS WE NEED TO GET ON YOUR
8:40:15PM CALENDAR WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY MOTIONS BEFORE YOU.
8:40:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE SIX MOTIONS.
8:40:20PM I WILL READ THEM SLOWLY SO THE RECORD IS CLEAR.
8:40:22PM MOTION TO -- I'M KIDDING.
8:40:28PM A MOTION REQUESTED BY PLANNING COMMISSION TO SET ADOPTION
8:40:30PM HEARING FOR TA/CPA 22-12, TA/CPA 22-25, TA/CPA 22-27 ON

8:40:38PM FEBRUARY 23rd, 2023, AT 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL
8:40:42PM DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF NOTICE
8:40:44PM FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
8:40:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:40:50PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:40:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:40:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANOTHER MOTION IS REQUEST BY THE
8:40:55PM PLANNING COMMISSION SETTING AN ADOPTION HEARING FOR TA/CPA
8:40:59PM 22-26 AND TA/CPA 22-29 ON MARCH 9, 2023, AT 5:01 P.M. AND TO
8:41:05PM DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH
8:41:08PM THE FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
8:41:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:41:13PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:41:14PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:41:17PM MAN'S ANOTHER MOTION.
8:41:18PM REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION SETTING A TRANSMITTAL
8:41:20PM HEARING FOR TA/CPA 22-30 ON MARCH 9, 2023, AT 5:01 P.M. AND
8:41:25PM DIRECT LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE
8:41:27PM FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
8:41:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN MANISCALCO.
8:41:32PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:41:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:41:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION
8:41:37PM SETTING UP AN ADOPTION HEARING FOR TA/CPA 22-28 ON MARCH
8:41:41PM 23rd, 2023, AT 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT

8:41:44PM TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH A FORM OF NOTICE FOR
8:41:46PM ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
8:41:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:41:49PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:41:50PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:41:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
8:41:53PM A REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION SETTING A TRANSMITTAL
8:41:55PM HEARING FOR TA/CPA 22-31 ON MARCH 23rd, 2023, AT 5:01 P.M.
8:42:01PM AND DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK
8:42:03PM WITH THE FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
8:42:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
8:42:08PM MANISCALCO.
8:42:08PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:42:10PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:42:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FINAL MOTION IS A REQUEST FROM THE
8:42:13PM PLANNING COMMISSION SETTING ADOPTION HEARING FOR TA/CPA
8:42:16PM 22-30 AND TA/CPA 22-31, ON MAY 25TH, 2023, AT 5:01 P.M. AND
8:42:23PM DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH
8:42:23PM THE FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
8:42:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
8:42:28PM MANISCALCO.
8:42:28PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:42:30PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:42:31PM IS THAT ALL?
8:42:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HAPPY FRIDAY THE 13th TOMORROW.

8:42:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
8:42:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
8:42:44PM I WAS GOING TO SUBMIT TO COUNCIL FOR INCLUSION ON NEXT
8:42:48PM WEEK'S AGENDA A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE RULES OF PROCEDURE
8:42:52PM GOVERNING CERTAIN THINGS THAT ACTUALLY CAME UP TONIGHT.
8:42:56PM AND I REALIZED THROUGH THAT DISCUSSION TONIGHT THAT I
8:42:59PM OVERLOOKED THAT SECTION 27-150 THAT DEALT WITH MISNOTICES.
8:43:05PM IS INCONSISTENT WITH OTHER SECTIONS OF THE CODE THAT DEAL
8:43:10PM WITH MISNOTICE, BUT I WANTED TO HAVE THAT AMENDED IN WHAT I
8:43:16PM WAS DOING IN THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, AND I'M GOING TO ASK
8:43:19PM FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
8:43:22PM ONCE I MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT, I'LL GET IT RIGHT BACK TO
8:43:25PM COUNCIL.
8:43:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO OBJECTION.
8:43:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
8:43:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
8:43:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:43:32PM I HAVE NOTHING.
8:43:33PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
8:43:36PM >> WHAT ABOUT --
8:43:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY.
8:43:42PM I FORGOT ALL ABOUT IT.
8:43:43PM I APOLOGIZE.
8:43:47PM SENT EVERYONE A MEMO ASKING FOR A RESOLUTION TO BE WRITTEN
8:43:49PM UP TO SUPPORT THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION'S

8:43:57PM SUPPORT ON CLEAN ENERGY.
8:44:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS A VERY SERIOUS THING.
8:44:05PM YOU HEAR ABOUT IT EVERYWHERE ON TV.
8:44:07PM BUT THE TEMPERATURE IN TAMPA FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR,
8:44:12PM TWO DEGREES.
8:44:14PM IT CAN'T CONTINUE THIS WAY.
8:44:16PM NOT ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT ALL OVER THE WORLD.
8:44:20PM LOOK AT CALIFORNIA, FROM DROUGHT TO FLOODS, ALL OVER.
8:44:23PM THE WHOLE WORLD IS IN TURMOIL.
8:44:26PM WHERE IT HASN'T SNOWED, IT'S SNOWED SO MUCH PEOPLE CAN'T
8:44:29PM EVEN GO TO WORK.
8:44:31PM WHAT'S HAPPENING IS AN ATROCITY AND WE'RE JUST KILLING OUR
8:44:36PM OWN SELVES.
8:44:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THINK ABOUT THIS, 150 YEARS AGO WITH THE
8:44:40PM BURNING OF COAL AND TRAINS AND THEN THE INTRODUCTION OF
8:44:43PM AUTOMOBILES AND ALL THAT BEING PUMPED INTO THE AIR, THEN THE
8:44:46PM DESTRUCTION TO THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE THE EPA BEFORE
8:44:49PM REGULATION.
8:44:50PM IT IS UNNATURAL.
8:44:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I KNOW YOU WERE THERE.
8:44:53PM [ LAUGHTER ]
8:44:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN ANOTHER LIFE.
8:44:57PM BUT THINK ABOUT THAT.
8:44:59PM THE EARTH EXISTED FOR SO LONG IN A NATURAL STATE AND WE'VE
8:45:02PM DONE A LOT OF DESTRUCTION.

8:45:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
8:45:05PM I'M ASKING FOR THIS TO COME BACK NEXT THURSDAY.
8:45:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE CHAIRMAN
8:45:10PM CITRO.
8:45:11PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:45:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL FORMAT THAT.
8:45:18PM MONDAY IS OBVIOUSLY A LEGAL HOLIDAY.
8:45:21PM SO I WILL HAVE IT TO COUNCIL BEFORE THE MEETING TUESDAY
8:45:24PM THEN.
8:45:25PM I WILL GET IT TO YOU IN ADVANCE.
8:45:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FROM
8:45:33PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:45:35PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:45:36PM AYE.
8:45:37PM LET'S NOT FORGET, WE REMEMBER THE REVEREND DR. MARTIN LUTHER
8:45:39PM KING NOT JUST ON MONDAY BUT EVERY DAY AND EVERYTHING THAT HE
8:45:44PM DID FOR SOCIETY AND SO MUCH MORE.
8:45:47PM WE OBSERVE THAT DAY AND HIS CONTRIBUTIONS AND HIS MEMORY.
8:45:53PM MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
8:45:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, MADE BY
8:45:58PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:45:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:46:00PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8:46:02PM IF I HEAR NO OBJECTION, WE'RE ADJOURNED.
8:46:06PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
8:46:07PM
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