TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2023
9:00 A.M.
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09:02:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE WE GOOD, MADAM CLERK?
09:02:06AM GOOD MORNING, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HELD THIS DAY ON FEBRUARY
09:02:12AM 2, 2023 IS NOW IN SESSION.
09:02:14AM CHIEF BENNETT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE US THE INVOCATION,
09:02:23AM PLEASE.
09:02:24AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WILL BE HONORED TO.
09:02:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, EVERYBODY PLEASE RISE FOR THE
09:02:28AM INVOCATION AND PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF
09:02:33AM ALLEGIANCE.
09:02:33AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, TAMPA.
09:02:35AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:02:37AM THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY THIS MORNING TO CELEBRATE OUR
09:02:40AM COMMUNITY WITH BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
09:02:43AM SUPPORT OUR LEADERSHIP AND THE PUBLIC, OUR PERSONNEL, OUR
09:02:48AM PARTNER COMMUNITIES AND OUR POLICYMAKERS AS WE GO THROUGH
09:02:51AM THIS COUNCIL AGENDA TODAY IN SUPPORT OF COMMUNITY
09:02:55AM SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY WITH THE RIGHT LEVEL OF
09:02:58AM SERVICE AT EVERY DOORSTEP.
09:02:59AM LET US FOCUS ON THE BEST OR THE MOST, STARTING WITH THE
09:03:04AM LEAST OF THESE IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
09:03:06AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:03:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:03:21AM PLEASE BE SEATED.
09:03:23AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:03:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:03:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:03:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:03:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:03:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:03:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M HERE AS WELL.
09:03:35AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:03:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:03:38AM I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT OUR MINUTES OF JANUARY 10
09:03:45AM AND EVENING SESSION OF JANUARY 12 AND REGULAR SESSION OF
09:03:48AM JANUARY 19.
09:03:48AM MOTION IS MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:03:51AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:03:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:03:55AM ANY OPPOSITION?
09:03:56AM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN ADOPTED.
09:04:00AM MR. SHELBY.
09:04:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS
09:04:06AM OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:04:06AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:04:08AM VERY BRIEFLY, I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO WAIVE THE RULES TO
09:04:11AM ALLOW THE CONTINUED USE OF CMT.
09:04:14AM INSTRUCTIONS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEB PAGE AT
09:04:17AM TAMPA.GOV/CITY COUNCIL.
09:04:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:04:26AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WAS IT
09:04:29AM MANISCALCO, I AM SORRY.
09:04:30AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:04:32AM ANY OPPOSE?
09:04:33AM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THE MOTION IS PASSED.
09:04:35AM LET'S GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
09:04:37AM WITH THE ADDENDUMS FIRST.
09:04:40AM HOW ABOUT THAT.
09:04:41AM WE HAVE A WALK-ON FROM, I BELIEVE, MISS NICOLE TRAVIS -- OH,
09:04:48AM THERE YOU ARE, CHIEF.
09:04:49AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:04:51AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU.
09:04:51AM I ASKED TO BE JOINED BY MISS TRAVIS AS WE HAVE SOME
09:04:55AM AMENDMENTS AND IF THE SOUND ROOM WITH CHECK ON THAT FEEDBACK
09:04:58AM FOR EVERYBODY, WE WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
09:05:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION?
09:05:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
09:05:06AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A REVIEW OF THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM
09:05:09AM AND YOU GO INTO -- IS THIS JUST FOR APPROVAL OR GO INTO --
09:05:13AM >>JOHN BENNETT: NO ITEM.
09:05:14AM WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA APPROVAL.
09:05:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDERSTOOD.
09:05:19AM THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
09:05:21AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WILL ALLOW MISS TRAVIS TO TALK THROUGH THE
09:05:26AM WALK-ON AND SHE IS OFFERING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON
09:05:31AM 58-71 BASED ON THEIR SIMILAR CONTENT.
09:05:33AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:05:34AM NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
09:05:37AM OPPORTUNITY.
09:05:38AM THANK YOU, CHIEF.
09:05:39AM COUPLE OF ITEMS.
09:05:40AM A WALK-ON IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE A FIRST AMENDMENT FOR A
09:05:44AM SALES CONTRACT FOR PROPERTY IN CHANNELSIDE.
09:05:46AM I AM ASKING IF I CAN DO THAT UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE
09:05:51AM PORTION.
09:05:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:05:56AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:05:58AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:05:59AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:06:02AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DISCUSSION AND
09:06:07AM CONVERSATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS 57-71.
09:06:12AM I EXPLAIN IT IN THE BRIEFING.
09:06:14AM FOR THE PUBLIC THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE ARE MAKING
09:06:18AM THIS RECOMMENDATION.
09:06:18AM IF I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU PULL THOSE OFF AND HAVE
09:06:23AM THAT DISCUSSION WITH ITEM NUMBER 14, WHEN WE ARE TALKING
09:06:26AM ABOUT HOUSING.
09:06:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:06:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:06:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 58-71, IS THAT CORRECT?
09:06:33AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.
09:06:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:06:37AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:06:38AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:06:40AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:06:41AM THE RECORD REFLECTS THAT THE MOTION HAS PASSED.
09:06:43AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:06:45AM ONE LAST ITEM.
09:06:46AM ITEM NUMBER 78.
09:06:47AM THE LAST 24 HOUR, WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS
09:06:51AM CONTRACT.
09:06:51AM IF YOU WOULD ALLOW US TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL FEBRUARY
09:06:55AM 16.
09:06:56AM IT WILL ALLOW US TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS CONTRACT AND
09:06:59AM MAKE ADJUSTMENTS IF NEEDED.
09:07:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHICH AGENDA ITEM?
09:07:03AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: 78, PLEASE.
09:07:04AM SORRY?
09:07:08AM TO FEBRUARY 16.
09:07:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:07:12AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:07:14AM ANY DISCUSSION?
09:07:16AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:07:17AM ANY OPPOSITION?
09:07:21AM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THE MOTION HAS PASSED.
09:07:24AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:07:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:07:26AM WE WILL HAVE A BRIEF ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE IN A SECOND OR
09:07:33AM TWO.
09:07:34AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.
09:07:36AM THAT IS A RESOLUTION.
09:07:37AM AGENDA NUMBER 5 IS ALSO A RESOLUTION.
09:07:39AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
09:07:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, PLEASE.
09:07:45AM VERY IMPORTANT.
09:07:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:07:47AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.
09:07:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, PLEASE.
09:07:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
09:07:51AM AGAIN YOU HAVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
09:07:53AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
09:07:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, PLEASE.
09:07:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9.
09:08:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:08:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE ASKING FOR A
09:08:04AM CONTINUANCE.
09:08:05AM MISS TRAVIS?
09:08:06AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9?
09:08:09AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, SIR.
09:08:10AM A REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY PARKS AND
09:08:14AM RECOGNIZE DIRECTOR SHERISHA HILLS TO APRIL 6th
09:08:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SPOKE TO HER ABOUT THAT.
09:08:22AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY MORRIS MASSEY HAS BEEN
09:08:26AM WORKING ON AN OVERALL POLICY.
09:08:27AM I WILL LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT.
09:08:29AM OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE GET THROUGH THIS POLICY BEFORE WE
09:08:32AM MAKE THIS.
09:08:33AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: A MOTION PENDING ON THE 16th WITH THE
09:08:37AM ORDINANCE CODIFYING THE HONORARY NAMING PROCESS.
09:08:40AM WE HAD INITIALLY HAD AN EXECUTIVE ORDER BUT WANT TO MAKE
09:08:44AM SURE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS EQUAL SAY IN NAMING PROPOSALS.
09:08:51AM WE WANT THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE AND FOLLOW THAT PROCESS.
09:08:53AM THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE REQUESTED EXTENSION.
09:08:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
09:08:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:08:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:09:03AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:09:07AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:09:08AM ANY OPPOSITION?
09:09:09AM THE MOTION PASSES AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:09:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, PLEASE.
09:09:17AM I TALKED TO SHERISHA AND WE SAID -- SHE IS NOT HERE, RIGHT?
09:09:26AM CAN I CONTINUE THAT TO --
09:09:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:09:35AM I THINK SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT MAKING SURE WHEN THE -- WHEN
09:09:39AM THE PLAN COMES BACK -- THE PLAN IS DUE TO COME BACK AFTER A
09:09:44AM COUPLE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS AND COME BACK TO THE
09:09:48AM OVERALL COUNCIL WITH IDEAS AND ADDITIONS AND DELETIONS TO
09:09:52AM THE OVERALL PLAN.
09:09:53AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK, TOO -- AGAIN, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF
09:09:57AM OF STAFF, TO AUGMENT COUNCILMAN GUDES' POINTS, IT SHOULD
09:10:00AM ALIGN VERY WELL WITH THE NEXT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT UPDATE
09:10:04AM WHICH IS A PRECURSOR OF THE NEXT BUDGET.
09:10:07AM ALL SHOULD COME TOGETHER.
09:10:12AM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR NOW MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE IT TO MARCH
09:10:16AM 16.
09:10:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:10:19AM AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:10:21AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:10:24AM MOTION PASSES.
09:10:25AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:10:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I COULD HAVE MR. BHIDE, HE DID
09:10:31AM TRANSMIT A REPORT, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CONCERNED ABOUT
09:10:34AM IT AND I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO BRIEFLY DISCUSS IT.
09:10:36AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12.
09:10:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, PLEASE.
09:10:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13.
09:10:45AM I WOULD I CAN LIKE TO HEAR THAT.
09:10:47AM MAKE A MOTION.
09:10:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:10:50AM IT IS VERY IMPORTANT
09:10:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14.
09:10:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:10:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S.
09:10:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:11:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15, COUNCILMAN
09:11:02AM MANISCALCO.
09:11:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:11:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 16, WHICH IS COUNCILMAN VIERA WHO IS NOT
09:11:08AM HERE.
09:11:08AM HE WILL BE JOINING US SHORTLY.
09:11:11AM MISS TRAVIS, I THINK HE WANTED TO CONTINUE THIS?
09:11:15AM I AM NOT SURE.
09:11:16AM HE IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW.
09:11:17AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE HAVE PROVIDED -- I DON'T --
09:11:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO THE 17th OF MARCH?
09:11:25AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK IT IS A COMBINATION OF THE
09:11:28AM DEPARTMENT, T&I AND I BELIEVE THE VENDOR IS HERE AS WELL.
09:11:32AM I RECOMMEND WE MOVE FORWARD.
09:11:33AM A LOT OF INTEREST IN THIS ITEM.
09:11:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17.
09:11:42AM THAT WANTS TO BE CONTINUED UNTIL MARCH 23.
09:11:44AM OKAY.
09:11:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 17 TO MARCH 23.
09:11:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:11:52AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:11:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:11:54AM ANY OBJECTION?
09:11:56AM MOTION PASSES.
09:11:57AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.
09:12:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THIS WILL BE CONTINUED TO FEBRUARY 16.
09:12:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:12:04AM SECONDED BY.
09:12:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
09:12:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:12:08AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:12:09AM ANY OPPOSITION?
09:12:10AM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THE MOTION PASSES.
09:12:12AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:12:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 82.
09:12:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE SIDEWALK?
09:12:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THE SIDEWALK DISCUSSION.
09:12:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
09:12:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I TALKED TO MR. BHIDE.
09:12:26AM WHEREVER IT MAY FIT IN BEST.
09:12:29AM WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT --
09:12:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MADAM CLERK AND I SAID AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20
09:12:35AM UNDER STAFF REPORT IF THAT IS OKAY WITH YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
09:12:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS WONDERFUL.
09:12:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
09:12:41AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:12:41AM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THE MOTION PASSES.
09:12:43AM MR. SHELBY, I BELIEVE YOU ALSO WANTED TO DISCUSS THE
09:12:47AM RESOLUTION TO NEW BUSINESS?
09:12:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, ON THE ADDENDUM, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY
09:12:55AM COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:12:55AM I HAVE GOTTEN SOME GOOD FEEDBACK ON THAT MATTER.
09:12:59AM THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT DO NEED CLARIFICATION.
09:13:02AM AND COUNCILMAN VIERA MADE THE GOOD SUGGESTION TO TALK TO
09:13:07AM INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBER INDIVIDUALLY.
09:13:09AM CERTAIN DECISION POINTS.
09:13:11AM MORE COMING BACK ON MARCH 3 THAT WAS COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AT
09:13:15AM THE -- AT THE WORKSHOP.
09:13:17AM SO I WOULD LIKE FOR THIS TO BE CONTINUED TO THAT AND I WILL
09:13:19AM BRING IT BACK AS A FULL PACKAGE AND TO BE ABLE TO MEET WITH
09:13:23AM EACH COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:13:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHICH AGENDA ITEM.
09:13:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ADDENDUM.
09:13:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:13:32AM YOU ARE ASKED --
09:13:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ASKING FOR MARCH 2.
09:13:35AM THAT IS THE CORRECT DATE, MADAM CLERK?
09:13:39AM IS THAT RIGHT?
09:13:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
09:13:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.
09:13:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
09:13:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:13:46AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:13:48AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:13:49AM ANY OPPOSITION?
09:13:50AM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THE MOTION HAS PASSED.
09:13:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:13:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE THAT CLEARS UP OUR AGENDA FOR NOW.
09:13:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM.
09:14:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:14:04AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:14:05AM ANY OPPOSITION?
09:14:08AM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THE RESOLUTION HAS PASSED.
09:14:11AM AGENDA NUMBER 1, FILE NUMBER CM 22-78637.
09:14:21AM THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA IS HERE FOR US.
09:14:23AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:14:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MY COLLEAGUES FOR
09:14:27AM ALLOWING US TO HAVE THE ORCHESTRA SPEND A FEW MINUTES GIVING
09:14:31AM US AN UPDATE.
09:14:31AM WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE A HIGH QUALITY ORCHESTRA IN THIS AREA.
09:14:35AM THEY HAVE VERY STRONG ATTENDANCE AND GO TAMPA AND ST. PETE
09:14:38AM AND I THINK WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE THEM IN TAMPA AND WANT THEM
09:14:41AM TO ENGAGE MORE SO THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.
09:14:43AM >> THANK YOU, MARK CANTRELL, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE FLORIDA
09:14:51AM ORCHESTRA.
09:14:51AM I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS LETTING ME COME BRIEFLY TO GIVE YOU AN
09:14:55AM UPDATE WHAT WE ARE DOING IN THIS GREAT COMMUNITY.
09:14:58AM I WILL SAY GREAT COMMUNITIES HAVE GREAT LEADERSHIP.
09:15:00AM WITH THE VIBRANCY AND THE GROWTH AND EXCITEMENT THAT IS
09:15:04AM TAMPA BAY, THAT IS A REFLECTION OF THE WOULD, YOU DO.
09:15:06AM SO ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US IN THE ARTS WORLD.
09:15:10AM THANK YOU FOR SETTING THE TABLE FOR US TO HAVE VERY VIBRANT
09:15:14AM ARTS HERE.
09:15:15AM YOUR FLORIDA ORCHESTRA HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS 55 YEARS.
09:15:18AM WE HAVE BEEN IN TAMPA A VERY LONG TIME.
09:15:20AM WE EMPLOY 72 FULL-TIME MUSICIANS WHO ARE FULLY PROFESSIONAL.
09:15:24AM I WOULD LIKEN THE QUALITY OF WHAT THEY DO VERY SIMILAR TO
09:15:28AM WHAT WE DO WITH THE MAY JOR SPORTS TEAMS.
09:15:30AM PEOPLE AT THE VERY TOP OF OUR GAME.
09:15:33AM YOU HEAR THEM IN CONCERT, YOU HAVE TO AGREE WITH THEM.
09:15:36AM I PLAYED IN THE BOSTON SYMPHONY, THIS IS MY ORCHESTRA AND I
09:15:41AM LIVE HERE, BUT YOUR FLORIDA ORCHESTRA IS ONE OF THE TOP
09:15:44AM ORCHESTRAS IN THE COUNTRY.
09:15:45AM WE ARE LED BY AN INTERNATIONAL ACCLAIMED MUSIC DIRECTOR
09:15:49AM MICHAEL FRANCIS, AN ABSOLUTE ROCK STAR AND COULD BE QUITE
09:15:54AM POSSIBLY THE NEXT LIONEL BERSTEIN IN THE MUSIC WORLD AND WE
09:15:58AM ARE HAPPY TO HAVE HIM HERE AND HE LIVES IN THE TAMPA AREA,
09:16:00AM IN LUTZ.
09:16:02AM WE PLAY MORE THAN 100 CONCERTS PER SEASON.
09:16:04AM SIMPLY PUT, ORCHESTRAS EXIST FOR ONE REASON ONLY.
09:16:07AM WE ARE HERE TO BUILD COMMUNITY AND TO MAKE THIS A BETTER
09:16:11AM PLACE.
09:16:11AM WE ARE HERE TO PARTNER WITH OUR CITIES.
09:16:13AM WITH OUR TOWNS AND WITH OTHER BUSINESSES AND OTHER PEOPLE TO
09:16:16AM GROW AND MAKE GREAT COMMUNITIES.
09:16:18AM HOW DO WE DO THAT?
09:16:20AM WE DO THAT BY FIGURING OUT HOW FIRST WE INTERSECT, THEN
09:16:23AM INTERACT, AND IMPACT OUR CITIES.
09:16:25AM CONCERTS ARE OUR BIGGEST TOOL IN OUR BAG IN WHICH WE HELP
09:16:31AM BUILD THESE COMMUNITIES, BUT OUR FIRST AND FOREMOST GOAL IS
09:16:34AM THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND TO IMPROVE THE LIVES THAT
09:16:36AM THEY LIVE WITH US.
09:16:37AM WE DO A VERY WIDE VARIETY OF OFFERINGS.
09:16:41AM WHEN YOU THINK OF A SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA, WE THINK OF
09:16:46AM BRAHM, BACH AND BEETHOVEN.
09:16:49AM WE PLAY FROM SEPTEMBER TO MAY OVER A 36-WEEK SEASON.
09:16:53AM WE WILL PLAY MASTERWORKS THAT WE KNOW, OUR POPS CONCERT THAT
09:16:57AM WE KNOW AND WE PLAY ROCK CONCERTS AND LIVE FILM SCORES.
09:17:01AM WE HAVE SOMETHING FOR LITERALLY EVERYONE.
09:17:03AM AND WE ARE ALWAYS EXPLORING NEW OPTIONS.
09:17:06AM WE ALSO STEP OUT OF THE CONCERT HALL -- I DON'T KNOW HOW
09:17:09AM MANY OF YOU WERE THERE RECENTLY BUT MY FIRST BUCS GAME THAT
09:17:12AM I GOT TO GO TO.
09:17:13AM MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL GAME BACK IN DECEMBER WHERE YOUR BRASS
09:17:17AM SECTION FROM YOUR FLORIDA ORCHESTRA PLAYED AT THE HALFTIME
09:17:20AM SHOW.
09:17:21AM QUITE AN EXPERIENCE TO PLAY FOR 80,000 SCREAMING PEOPLE.
09:17:24AM I ASSURE YOU.
09:17:25AM MUSICIANS ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT.
09:17:27AM WE FORMED A NEW PARTNERSHIP HERE IN TAMPA THAT WE ARE
09:17:31AM EXCITED ABOUT WITH STRAZ CENTER AND OPERA TAMPA.
09:17:36AM WE BELIEVE IN THE FUTURE OF THE OPERA HERE AND A PARTNERSHIP
09:17:39AM AND COLLABORATION THAT WILL DELIVER GREAT -- GREAT THINGS IN
09:17:42AM THE FUTURE AS THIS COMMUNITY GROWS.
09:17:44AM WE ALSO, AS YOU KNOW, DO MANY PARKS CONCERTS AT JULIAN B.
09:17:52AM LANE THAT WE ARE HAPPY WITH THE FACILITY.
09:17:54AM A WONDERFUL PARK.
09:17:55AM A GREAT PLACE TO BRING MUSIC FREE TO THE PEOPLE OF THE
09:17:57AM COMMUNITY IN AN OUTDOOR SETTING THAT IS JUST WONDERFUL.
09:18:00AM AND WE HAVE OUR NEXT CONCERT THERE WILL BE ON MOTHER'S DAY.
09:18:05AM A NICE TRIBUTE TO ALL OF THE MOTHERS OUT THERE.
09:18:07AM A WONDERFUL CONCERT.
09:18:09AM PLAY AT RIVER TOWER PARK.
09:18:10AM UNFORTUNATELY THIS YEAR THAT CONCERT GOT POSTPONED WITH SIX
09:18:14AM INCHES OF WATER STANDING ON THE GROUND THERE AND THE CITY
09:18:17AM RECOMMENDED THAT WE NOT TRY TO PLAY A CONCERT IN A FLOOD,
09:18:20AM WHICH WE HEARTEDLY AGREED WITH.
09:18:22AM 34 OUT OF OUR 36 WEEKS THAT WE ARE HERE, WE ARE AT THE STRAZ
09:18:27AM CENTER.
09:18:27AM THE STRAZ CENTER WAS THE FIRST VENUE WE HAD WITH THE FLORIDA
09:18:32AM ORCHESTRA SINCE 1968 AND OUR LARGEST VENUE.
09:18:35AM WE ARE HAPPY WITH THE PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH THEM.
09:18:37AM A TRUE -- WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE COULD DO IF NOT
09:18:40AM FOR THEM.
09:18:41AM BUT WE ALSO DO A LOT MORE THAN JUST CONCERTS IN BUILDING THE
09:18:45AM COMMUNITY ON OUR JOURNEY WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE US ALL ON.
09:18:48AM WE HAVE MANY OTHER PARTNERSHIPS.
09:18:49AM FOR INSTANCE, IN THE SUMMERTIME, WE PARTNER WITH THE
09:18:54AM CONSERVATORY OFFERING AN INTENSIVE PROGRAM WITH MUSICIANS
09:18:58AM FOR THE SUMMERTIME YOUTH IN THE AREA.
09:19:00AM WE ARE HAPPY THAT IS A NEW PARTNERSHIP WE JUST DEVELOPED AND
09:19:04AM ARE BEARING FRUIT ALREADY.
09:19:05AM WE HAVE PARTNERSHIP WITH HILLSBOROUGH COMMUNITY AND
09:19:08AM OUTREACH PROGRAMS GOING THROUGH THEM.
09:19:10AM WE HAVE A PROGRAM TFO STRINGS FOR KIDS TEACHING VIOLINS IN
09:19:15AM THE REC CENTER FOR AT-RISK KIDS.
09:19:20AM THIS IS FOR FREE AND IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, WE WILL SEND OUT
09:19:23AM INFORMATION TO YOU.
09:19:23AM IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THE IMPACT OF THESE KIDS.
09:19:26AM NOTHING LIKE WATCHING A 10-YEAR-OLD OR 11-YEAR-OLD FOR THE
09:19:29AM FIRST TIME PLAYING A CONCERT WITH THE VIOLIN.
09:19:31AM PASSION THEY HAVE.
09:19:33AM IT REMAINS WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO.
09:19:36AM OF COURSE, OUR YOUTH CONCERTS THAT REACH MORE THAN 10,000
09:19:39AM STUDENTS THAT WE DO AT THE STRAZ CENTER.
09:19:41AM FOR A LOT OF THEM THE FIRST TIME HOPEFULLY NOT THE LAST TIME
09:19:44AM TO EXPERIENCE THE ORCHESTRA AND EXPERIENCE A THRILL OF BEING
09:19:47AM IN A HALL WITH 2,000 OTHER PEOPLE SCREAMING AND EXCITED OF
09:19:51AM THE MUSIC THEY ARE HEARING AND LEARNING ABOUT IN THE
09:19:54AM CLASSROOM.
09:19:54AM WE HAVE A LONG-TIME YANKEES STEINBRENNER FOUNDATION
09:19:59AM PARTNERSHIP THAT WE DO THAT WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE.
09:20:00AM WITH HE HAD TO TAKE A PAUSE ON THAT FOR SAFETY REASONS FOR
09:20:04AM COVID BUT THIS YEAR IT CAME BACK AND SMASHING SUCCESS.
09:20:07AM MASTER CLASSES UP AT USF.
09:20:10AM MICHAEL FRANCIS GOES IN AND WORKS WITH THEIR ORCHESTRA AND
09:20:13AM THEIR CONDUCTORS TO HELP FURTHER THE NEXT GENERATION OF
09:20:18AM MUSICIANS AND MUSIC LOVERS TO HELP THEM BE MORE CIVICALLY
09:20:21AM MINDED OF THE PLACE OF THE ORCHESTRA IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:20:24AM THE TAMPA METRO YOUTH ORCHESTRA.
09:20:28AM ONE OF THE GREAT ASSETS.
09:20:29AM WE DO SIDE BY SIDE WHICH GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO SIT NEXT TO
09:20:33AM PROFESSIONALS AND PLAY.
09:20:34AM TFO IS ARDENTLY AND RELENTLESSLY WORKING TO SUPPORT GROWTH
09:20:39AM IN TAMPA.
09:20:42AM TAMPA IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING COMMUNITIES IN THE
09:20:44AM NATION.
09:20:44AM PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE IN DROVES, AND A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE
09:20:48AM ARE COMING FROM PLACES WITH GREAT ART.
09:20:50AM AND THEY -- GREAT CITIES DEMAND GREAT ART.
09:20:54AM THE DEMAND WE ARE STARTING TO SEE HERE NOW IS NOTHING SHORT
09:20:57AM OF SPECTACULAR.
09:20:58AM AND WE ARE HERE TO HELP PARTNER WITH EVERYBODY TO MAKE THIS
09:21:02AM A GREATER PLACE.
09:21:03AM WE ARE A CULTURAL BEACON OF EXCELLENCE THAT MOVES TAMPA
09:21:07AM FORWARD AND PUTS US ON THE MAP AS A CULTURAL DESTINATION.
09:21:11AM I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE ALL OF TO COME AS MY GUEST TO ANY OF
09:21:16AM THE CONCERT OFFERINGS THAT WE HAVE.
09:21:18AM SEE WHAT WE DO.
09:21:19AM I THINK YOU WILL BE VERY SURPRISED AT THE QUALITY OF YOUR
09:21:22AM ORCHESTRA.
09:21:22AM GUEST CONDUCTORS FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD COME HERE AND WE
09:21:25AM HEAR THE SAME THING ALL THE TIME.
09:21:27AM THEY ARE SHOCKED HOW GOOD THIS ORCHESTRA HAS BEGUN.
09:21:31AM WE ARE COMMITTED TO THE FUTURE OF THIS CITY.
09:21:33AM WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT TAMPA BAY BECOMES ONE
09:21:37AM OF THE GREAT CITIES IN OUR NATION.
09:21:40AM AND ARTS IS JUST ONE PART OF IT, BUT WE APPRECIATE ALL OF
09:21:44AM YOUR SUPPORT FOR EVERYTHING THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS DONE
09:21:47AM FOR THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
09:21:48AM THIS IS YOUR FLORIDA ORCHESTRA.
09:21:50AM THIS IS -- WE EXIST BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS DO IN
09:21:54AM HELPING US BUILD A BETTER COMMUNITY.
09:21:56AM THANK YOU.
09:21:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:21:58AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THIS WAS -- WAS YOUR MOTION
09:22:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TO GIVE US AN
09:22:05AM UPDATE TODAY.
09:22:05AM FOR ANYBODY WHO IS WATCHING, THE ORCHESTRA IS NOT JUST
09:22:09AM SOMETHING THAT IS NICE TO HAVE, IT IS ESSENTIAL FOR ECONOMIC
09:22:13AM DEVELOPMENT IN OUR AREA.
09:22:14AM YEARS AGO WHEN THE STRAZ CENTER WAS BUILT AND THE
09:22:18AM ORGANIZATION WAS CREATED IT WAS LOOKED AT A BOX YOU HAVE TO
09:22:20AM CHECK.
09:22:20AM YOU NEED A FOOTBALL TEAM, YOU NEED A STRAZ CENTER, AN
09:22:24AM ORCHESTRA AND MUSEUM.
09:22:26AM BUT IT COMPLETELY EVOLVED SINCE THEN.
09:22:28AM INDUSTRIES AND JOBS CREATED OF THIS.
09:22:30AM THE PROGRAMMING THAT THE STRAZ CENTER DOES TO TRAIN KIDS.
09:22:33AM THE PROGRAMMING THAT THE ORCHESTRA DOES.
09:22:34AM WE HAVE SEEN KIDS GO ON TO BROADWAY AND OTHER PLACES AROUND
09:22:38AM THE WORLD.
09:22:38AM THEY CREATE BUSINESSES HERE.
09:22:39AM EVERY KID WANTS TO BE A YOUTUBE STAR.
09:22:42AM THEY LEARN HOW TO DO THAT THERE AND MONETIZE THE IDEAS.
09:22:45AM IMPORTANTLY, I INTERVIEWED A LOT OF CIOs AND CEOs AND SAY
09:22:52AM THE BEST PROGRAMMERS, SMARTEST, BEST AND BRIGHTEST THOUGHT
09:22:57AM LEADERS IN THE COMPANY ARE MUSICIANS.
09:22:59AM THEY CODE AND WORK IN THE DAY BECAUSE THAT IS HOW THEY MAKE
09:23:02AM MONEY, BUT THEIR TRUE IS MUSIC.
09:23:06AM IF WE WANT TO HAVE A THRIVING TECH SCENE, WE NEED TO HAVE
09:23:09AM THAT.
09:23:09AM ONE OTHER PERSONAL NOTE, IF I AM CORRECT, MARK, YOU PLAY THE
09:23:14AM TROMBONE.
09:23:16AM >> YES.
09:23:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: BACK IN '98 AND '99, THE BOSTON SYMPHONY
09:23:25AM ORCHESTRA.
09:23:25AM JOHN WILLIAMS GREAT COMPOSER OF THE "STAR WARS," "INDIANA
09:23:30AM JONES", "JAWS", EVERY BIG MOVIE THAT YOU THINK OF, AND MARK WAS
09:23:34AM PLAYING IN THE AUDIENCE, THE LAUNCH OF "THE PHANTOM MENACE."
09:23:40AM AND MARK GOT TO PLAY AND PERFORM WITH JOHN WILLIAMS THAT I
09:23:46AM AM EXCITED TO SHARE MORE STORY ABOUT.
09:23:48AM ONE SHOUT OUT, SUSANA IS A STRONG LEADER HEAD OF
09:23:53AM THE ARTS ASSOCIATION.
09:23:54AM LUCKY TO HAVE HER.
09:23:55AM IF YOU DON'T KNOW HER HUSBAND, YAN, A GREAT ARCHITECT WHO
09:24:01AM DESIGNED THE DALI AND THE LOUVE.
09:24:06AM SHE USED TO WORK WITH HENRY KISSINGER AND FANTASTIC STORIES
09:24:10AM AS WELL.
09:24:10AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE COMMUNITY.
09:24:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:24:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
09:24:16AM I HAVE ENJOYED THE FLORIDA ORCHESTRA FOR PROBABLY ABOUT 20
09:24:19AM YEARS.
09:24:20AM IN COLLEGE I WOULD ATTEND THE MASTERWORKS CONCERT.
09:24:23AM STEFAN SANDERLING, I BELIEVE, WAS THERE AT THE TIME.
09:24:28AM ALWAYS ENJOYABLE.
09:24:30AM A LOT OF GOOD MEMORIES.
09:24:32AM POPS AT THE PARK OR THE STRAZ CENTER.
09:24:34AM YOU MENTIONED LEONARD BERSTEIN AND REMINDED ME OF SOME OF MY
09:24:40AM FAVORITE MUSIC.
09:24:40AM ANYTHING COMING UP WEST SIDE STORY, MGM MUSICALS.
09:24:48AM >> WE HAVE POPS CONCERTS.
09:24:50AM VERY INTERESTING POPS CONCERT.
09:24:51AM STARTED WITH A NOD TO THE OSCAR AND A NOD TO BROADWAY --
09:24:58AM PARDON ME IF YOU ARE ASKING ME PROGRAM QUESTION AND THEY GET
09:25:04AM MIXED -- WE HAVE A STAR WARS VERSUS HARRY POTTER COMING UP.
09:25:07AM THAT WILL BE A FANTASTIC CONCERT.
09:25:10AM WE TRY WITH OUR POPS PROGRAMMING TO REACH A WIDE VARIETY.
09:25:13AM FOR INSTANCE, THIS WEEKEND, WE ARE DOING THE MUSIC OF ABBEY
09:25:19AM ROAD.
09:25:19AM WE GO FROM EVERYTHING BILLY JOEL AND LED ZEPPELIN IF IT IS
09:25:23AM POPS, ROGERS AND HAMMERSTEIN.
09:25:25AM THAT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE TO DO MAKE SURE WE CAN
09:25:28AM REACH -- INTERSECT AND INTERACT PART OF WHAT WE DO.
09:25:32AM PROGRAMMING TO MAKE SURE WE REACH ALL PARTS OF THE
09:25:34AM COMMUNITY.
09:25:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
09:25:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
09:25:38AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:25:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANKS FOR YOU.
09:25:43AM GOING WAY BACK WHEN I WAS A LITTLE TEENAGER, BEFORE TEENAGE
09:25:49AM -- NOT THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB NAMED THEN.
09:25:52AM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
09:25:53AM PAST HISTORY IS PAST HISTORY.
09:25:54AM I REMEMBER BEING EIGHT OR TEN YEARS OLD.
09:25:56AM THEY TOOK US TO PLAY A LITTLE CONCERT.
09:25:59AM A GROUP OF ABOUT TEN OF US.
09:26:00AM AND IT WAS THE ONLY TV STATION IN THE AREA.
09:26:03AM IT WAS CHANNEL 38 IN ST. PETERSBURG.
09:26:06AM AND THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS MOST FAMOUS FOR RAGS THE
09:26:10AM TIGER.
09:26:11AM AN ARTICLE THAT THEY WROTE AND A STORY -- A BEAUTIFUL THING.
09:26:14AM AND WE DID THAT AT THE BOYS CLUB.
09:26:16AM WE LEARNED A LOT FROM MUSIC.
09:26:18AM I CAN TELL YOU EVEN THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL, EVEN THOUGH I WAS
09:26:21AM NOT A GOOD PLAYER.
09:26:22AM I GOT IT TO MAKE THE GRADE TO LOOK GOOD WHEN I HAD -- TO
09:26:26AM GO AND APPLY FOR SOMEWHERE ELSE.
09:26:27AM BUT THERE WAS SOME INDIVIDUALS IN THAT GROUP THAT I CAN
09:26:30AM MENTION RIGHT NOW LIKE JACK MANISCALCO BECAME A SPINE AND
09:26:35AM BRAIN SURGEON.
09:26:35AM BETTY MANISCALCO BECAME A HEART DOCTOR.
09:26:38AM MOST FAMOUS DENNIS PREPELO, A WORLD RENOWNED HEART SURGEON.
09:26:45AM HE DID THE HEART TRANSPLANT WAY, WAY BACK WHEN IT WAS NOT
09:26:49AM POPULAR.
09:26:49AM ALL THOSE MUSIC PLAYERS, TROMBONE SECTION.
09:26:52AM RICHARD PARIS WAS A TROMBONIST AND A GREAT GROUP.
09:26:56AM I WAS NOT IN THE GROUP.
09:26:58AM I WAS DOING OTHER THINGS.
09:26:59AM BUT THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT JEFFERSON EVER RECEIVED THE
09:27:02AM COVETED AWARD OF "A" CLASS WHEN IT WENT TO STATE.
09:27:10AM BOTH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN MUSIC BECAME SOMETHING THAT
09:27:13AM EVERYBODY ASPIRED TO BE.
09:27:14AM I WANT TO THANK YOU THAT MOO I CAN STETLES YOU DOWN NO
09:27:19AM MATTER WHAT KIND OF MUSIC IT IS.
09:27:21AM I LOVE THEM ALL.
09:27:21AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:27:23AM DON'T ASK ME TO PLAY WITH YOU.
09:27:25AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:27:26AM >> FUNNY THAT YOU SAY THAT, BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND
09:27:29AM WHAT WE DO IN MUSIC AND THE POWER OF WHAT IT IS.
09:27:31AM HAVING LIVED IN THIS WORLD MY ENTIRE LIFE, I WAS AN AIRLINE
09:27:34AM PILOT BEFORE I BECAME A CEO AND AN INTERESTING CAREER.
09:27:39AM DAY ONE WHEN WE WALK IN A PRACTICE ROOM LIKE THE COLLEAGUES
09:27:43AM YOU JUST MENTIONED, WE ARE PROBLEM-SOLVERS.
09:27:45AM HOW DO WE PLAY THIS?
09:27:47AM HOW DO WE DO THIS?
09:27:48AM WE FAIL IN THE PRACTICE ROOM TO SUCCEED ON STAGE.
09:27:50AM THAT LEARNING TO BE PROBLEM-SOLVERS ON THE SPOT IS NOT THE
09:27:54AM POWERS THAT ARE TALKED ABOUT FOR MUSIC.
09:27:57AM TO TALK ABOUT -- WHEN WE ARE TALKING OF I.T., JUDY FAULKNER
09:28:01AM IN MADISON, WISCONSIN, OWNS A MEDICAL SYSTEM.
09:28:06AM NUMBER ONE RECRUIT COLLEGES AND MUSIC SCHOOLS BECAUSE THEY
09:28:09AM CAN THINK CREATIVELY.
09:28:10AM ANYBODY CAN LEARN TO PROGRAM IF THEY HAVE THE APTITUDE AND
09:28:14AM LEARN HOW TO DO IT BUT TO BE ABLE TO CREATIVELY PROBLEM
09:28:17AM SOLVE IS A BIG DEAL.
09:28:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE OF THE FELLAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, ONE OF
09:28:22AM THE WORLD RENOWN TROMBONE PLAYERS RAFAEL MENDEZ FROM MEXICO
09:28:27AM AND HE CAME AND DID A CONCERT.
09:28:29AM IT WAS OUTSTANDING.
09:28:30AM A LOT OF GOOD TROMBONE PLAYERS AND GUYS AND LADIES THAT
09:28:34AM COULD PLAY.
09:28:35AM I REMEMBER SITTING NEXT TO THEM GOING WHAT THE HILL AM I
09:28:38AM DOING HERE.
09:28:39AM THANK YOU.
09:28:39AM >> THANK YOU, ALL.
09:28:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:28:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO ECHO FOLKS' THANKS.
09:28:45AM AS A FORMER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER, MUSIC WAS A GIANT
09:28:48AM PART OF OUR DAY.
09:28:48AM I REALLY WORKED HARD TO MAKE SURE WE USED MUSIC IN MANY
09:28:54AM DIFFERENT THINGS WE DID.
09:28:55AM SO I AM REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR HOW YOU ARE STILL TRYING TO
09:28:59AM REACH EVERY GENERATION.
09:29:01AM IT IS VERY EXCITING AND I HOPE MORE PEOPLE COME TO VISIT AND
09:29:06AM SEE YOU PERFORM.
09:29:07AM SO I WANT TO SAY THANKS.
09:29:08AM >> THANK YOU.
09:29:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR WONDERFUL PRESENTATION
09:29:11AM TODAY.
09:29:11AM I AM SURE COUNCIL APPRECIATES IT.
09:29:14AM I ALWAYS SAID THAT DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR, ARTS BRING MORE TO ANY
09:29:19AM CITY THAN ANY PROFESSIONAL SPORTS TEAM.
09:29:22AM AS A FORMER MUSICIAN, YES, IT TEACHES KIDS A LOT OF THINGS.
09:29:27AM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR BEING HERE.
09:29:28AM >> THANK YOU.
09:29:29AM AND CONTINUE THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU ARE DOING.
09:29:31AM A BIG REASON THAT THE TAMPA AREA IS SUCH AN EXCITING PLACE
09:29:34AM TO LIVE.
09:29:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:29:36AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:29:38AM WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE.
09:29:43AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN CITRO AND COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:29:51AM I AM LaCHONE DOCK.
09:29:52AM I AM A MEMBER OF THE CITY OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY COMMITTEE'S
09:29:56AM EXECUTIVE BOARD.
09:29:57AM I HAVE WITH ME TODAY SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES AND FRANK CRUM,
09:30:04AM ALSO MEMBERS OF THE EXECUTIVE BOARD.
09:30:05AM I'M HERE TODAY SPEAKING FOR OUR PRESIDENT, MRS. KATRINA
09:30:09AM HOUSE, WHO COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY.
09:30:11AM I WANT TO THANK YOU.
09:30:12AM WE APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING US TO COME BEFORE YOU TO ANNOUNCE
09:30:15AM OUR UPCOMING CELEBRATION.
09:30:16AM OUR 35th ANNUAL CELEBRATION.
09:30:18AM OF THIS CELEBRATION WILL BE HELD ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 13 AT
09:30:23AM 11 A.M.
09:30:24AM THE CELEBRATION WILL BE HELD AT THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
09:30:27AM THIS IS IN BALLROOM C.
09:30:30AM SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS IS OUR 35th ANNIVERSARY.
09:30:33AM WE ARE EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER WILL BE
09:30:39AM DR. TANJA WILLIAMS.
09:30:40AM DR. WILLIAMS IS PRESIDENT OF ST. PETERSBURG COLLEGE.
09:30:44AM SHE WILL BE OUR KEYNOTE SPEAKER SPEAKING ON OUR THEME OF
09:30:48AM "THEN AND NOW: A REMARKABLE JOURNEY, EDUCATION AND
09:30:53AM SCHOLARSHIP."
09:30:54AM WE WELCOME EVERYONE TO ATTEND.
09:30:56AM THIS IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND APPRECIATE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT.
09:30:58AM COUNCIL, YOU SUPPORTED US THROUGH THE YEARS.
09:31:00AM WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.
09:31:02AM YOU ARE ALSO INVITED.
09:31:03AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN AT OUR PROGRAM ALONG WITH
09:31:07AM MEMBERS OF OUR PUBLIC.
09:31:08AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:31:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
09:31:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL BE THERE.
09:31:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE THERE.
09:31:16AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
09:31:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AT THIS TIME WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:31:21AM ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC
09:31:25AM COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE
09:31:28AM MINUTES.
09:31:28AM ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK, IF WE CAN FORM A LINE ON MY LEFT,
09:31:41AM YOUR RIGHT.
09:31:42AM YOU MAY BE THE FIRST ONE.
09:31:46AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO HAND SOMETHING OVER TO THE
09:31:49AM COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:31:49AM MR. SHELBY.
09:31:51AM THERE ARE TEN COPIES.
09:31:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:31:55AM THANK YOU.
09:31:56AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS, CHERYL SCHROEDER, WITH THE
09:32:03AM WEST CENTRAL FLORIDA LABOR COUNCIL.
09:32:06AM WE REPRESENT UNION MEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES IN THE TAMPA
09:32:09AM BAY AREA.
09:32:09AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 13, THAT IS ON THE AGENDA
09:32:12AM FOR TODAY.
09:32:13AM AND IT WOULD BE A REPORT RECORDING THE LATEST CITY PROJECT,
09:32:18AM THE CITY CENTER, THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST PROJECT UNDER THE
09:32:21AM RECENTLY PASSED APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
09:32:24AM THIS APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE OF FIRST AND FOREMOST CONCERN
09:32:29AM FOR US.
09:32:29AM THE ORDINANCE WAS PASSED AS PATHWAY, GENERATOR OF
09:32:33AM CAREER-ORIENTED JOBS TO THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
09:32:36AM IT WAS CITY DOLLARS BEING USED TO DEVELOP CITY RESIDENTS IN
09:32:41AM A CAREER PATH.
09:32:42AM WE ARE VERY ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT THE REPORT COMES OUT.
09:32:46AM IF IT IS LESS THAN WHAT WE HAD HOPED FOR, BECAUSE WE HAVE
09:32:50AM BEEN VERY FRUSTRATED BY A LACK OF INFORMATION REGARDING THIS
09:32:53AM PROJECT.
09:32:54AM BUT REGARDLESS, MOVING FORWARD, I REALLY HOPE THAT THE CITY
09:32:59AM COUNCIL WILL AUDIT THESE PROJECTS MORE CAREFULLY TO MAKE
09:33:02AM SURE THAT THEY ALIGN WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU PASSED AND
09:33:05AM FELT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR
09:33:08AM YOUTH, MEN AND WOMEN HERE IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
09:33:11AM THANK YOU.
09:33:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS SCHROEDER?
09:33:14AM >> YES.
09:33:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LAST TIME THAT I SAW A BUNCH OF THE UNION
09:33:18AM MEMBERS, I MADE IT MY PROMISE, AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME
09:33:21AM UNION MEMBERS HERE.
09:33:22AM >> YES, SIR, THERE IS.
09:33:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT I WOULD INQUIRE OF THAT.
09:33:25AM I MADE THAT PROMISE TO YOU.
09:33:26AM ON THE AGENDA YOU WILL NOTICE THIS IS MY MOTION.
09:33:28AM >> YES, SIR.
09:33:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO I ALWAYS KEEP MY PROMISES TO UNION
09:33:32AM MEMBERS.
09:33:32AM >> COUNCILMAN CITRO, WE ARE AWARE OF THAT.
09:33:36AM WE ALSO NOTICE THAT MR. MANISCALCO -- EXCUSE ME MR. MIRANDA
09:33:40AM WAS THE SECOND ON THAT MOTION.
09:33:41AM BUT I DO KNOW IN CONVERSATION WITH THE VARIOUS LEADERS ON
09:33:44AM THIS COUNCIL, THAT EVERYBODY HAS HAD A CONCERN REGARDING
09:33:48AM THIS.
09:33:48AM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS.
09:33:50AM MOVING FORWARD, THAT WE REALLY FIRM UP THIS PROCESS TO
09:33:53AM ENSURE THIS ORDINANCE IS ENACTED AND IMPLEMENTED IN AN
09:33:56AM APPROPRIATE WAY.
09:33:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM SURE WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR INFORMATION
09:34:00AM ON THAT REPORT.
09:34:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:34:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:34:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS SCHROEDER LISTED TEN POINTS.
09:34:09AM I KNOW MISS COLINA WILL SPEAK ON THAT ITEM.
09:34:12AM I WILL MAKE A NOTION HAVE THIS ENTERED AND RESPOND TO THE
09:34:15AM UNION'S QUESTIONS.
09:34:16AM >> GREAT.
09:34:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY APOLOGIES FOR NOT BEING HERE.
09:34:20AM >> I KNOW WHERE I AM AT, COUNCILMAN.
09:34:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IF YOU WERE YOU ARE
09:34:27AM RECOGNIZED.
09:34:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF THE CLERK HAS AN EXTRA COPY, TO GIVE ONE
09:34:32AM TO STAFF AND MAYBE STAFF CAN AUTOMATICALLY ADDRESS THESE
09:34:34AM QUESTIONS WHEN THEY GET READY FOR THIS REPORT.
09:34:36AM THANK YOU.
09:34:37AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
09:34:39AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
09:34:48AM AS WE DISCUSS AFRICAN HISTORY MONTH MOVING FORWARD, I JUST
09:34:56AM WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT REFLECTION OF WHAT I SEE HAPPENING IN
09:35:00AM THIS CITY EVERY DAY GIVES RISE TO WHAT DR. KING DESCRIBED IN
09:35:04AM ONE OF HIS LAST SPEECHES AS THE OTHER AMERICA.
09:35:08AM AND WHAT I SEE CONSTANTLY IS THE OTHER TAMPA.
09:35:13AM THE OTHER TAMPA WHERE YOUNG PEOPLE DO NOT -- DO NOT HAVE
09:35:19AM HOPE, THE ASPIRATION, JUST BASED ON EYESIGHT OF IMPROVEMENT
09:35:25AM IN THEIR COMMUNITY IS NOT THERE.
09:35:26AM WHY WE GRAPPLE WITH HOW BUILDINGS WILL BE NAMED, JUST TWO
09:35:32AM DAYS AGO, A YOUNG MAN 27 YEARS OLD DEAD IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
09:35:39AM AFTERNOON.
09:35:39AM TOO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE GROWING UP BEING WITHOUT THEIR
09:35:44AM FATHERS.
09:35:44AM TOO MANY YOUNG MEN GOING TO PRISON.
09:35:47AM ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS, AND YET THE OUTCOME IS ALMOST ALWAYS
09:35:50AM THE SAME FROM THE TIME THAT DR. KING GAVE THAT SPEECH TO
09:35:54AM WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
09:35:55AM TWO WEEKS -- I MEAN A MONTH AGO, YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR
09:35:59AM WONDERFUL NOT APPRENTICE PROGRAM, BUT I MADE A REQUEST TO
09:36:03AM SEE HOW WELL IS AFRICAN PEOPLE DOING WITH THE CONTRACTS.
09:36:06AM DALLAS ONE WAS GIVEN ALMOST, LIKE, $14 MILLION.
09:36:10AM THE OTHER COMPANY WAS GIVEN -- DALLAS ONE AND JB
09:36:22AM CONSTRUCTION.
09:36:22AM JUST LOOKING AT THE PAPER, AFRICAN-AMERICANS, $450,000.
09:36:28AM WHO COULD HE HIRE?
09:36:31AM MOST OF THE AFRICAN CONTRACTORS ON THE SHEET LIVED IN ST.
09:36:35AM PETERSBURG OR ARE OUT OF PLACE.
09:36:37AM THINGS ARE NOT IMPROVING FOR OUR COMMUNITY HERE.
09:36:39AM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING EQUITY, WE LOOK AT EVEN OUR CRA
09:36:47AM IS LOOKING AT RAISING HOW THEY WOULD GIVE DOWNPAYMENT
09:36:51AM ASSISTANCE FOR HOUSING THAT IS COSTING UPWARDS OF $500,000.
09:36:55AM IT DOES SEEM LIKE ALL SYSTEMS ARE GO.
09:36:58AM LEAVING A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE BEHIND.
09:37:00AM SO WHILE YOU SIGNED A RESOLUTION IN 2020 THAT YOU WOULD
09:37:06AM RECOGNIZE THE ILL EFFECT THAT HAVE DONE TO AFRICAN
09:37:09AM PEOPLE, IT HAS NOTHING BUT WATER AND PAPER WRITTEN UPON IT
09:37:13AM THAT WE CAN'T POINT ANYTHING AND SEE ANY VIABLE IMPROVEMENT
09:37:17AM FOR THE LIVES OF OUR COMMUNITY.
09:37:18AM YOU GOT TO DO BETTER.
09:37:20AM YOU SHOULD WANT TO DO BETTER IN THIS CLIMATE.
09:37:25AM WE JUST ASK FOR SIMPLE THINGS OF A CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.
09:37:28AM DON'T THINK TAMPA IS FAR REMOVED FROM MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE.
09:37:32AM BECAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN THAT YOUNG MAN DOMINIQUE WAS KILLED
09:37:36AM RIGHT THERE ON 50th STREET, ALTHOUGH IT WAS RULED
09:37:40AM JUSTIFIABLE.
09:37:41AM HE HAD OVER 100 BULLETS IN HIS BODY.
09:37:44AM THIS IS THE TAMPA THAT I KNOW.
09:37:45AM I DON'T COME ASKING FOR MYSELF BUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF
09:37:49AM BLACK PEOPLE MUST IMPROVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
09:37:51AM THANK YOU.
09:37:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:37:55AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:38:03AM I WANT TO SAY UHURU, IT MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI, WE AS
09:38:10AM AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING OF OUR FREEDOM.
09:38:14AM THEY SHOW US EVERY DAY HOW TO KEEP US INTIMIDATED.
09:38:17AM YOU SEE POLICE BEATING AFRICANS, SHOOTING AFRICANS, KILLING
09:38:23AM AFRICANS, HITTING US WITH CARS, TASING US.
09:38:26AM DOING ALL INHUMANE THINGS TO US.
09:38:29AM -- I HATE TO SAY, THAT AIN'T EVEN NO BIG DEAL.
09:38:36AM ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS STAY PRAYED UP AND HOPE THAT YOU ARE
09:38:39AM NOT THE ONE.
09:38:40AM THAT IS ALL BLACK PARENTS HOPE TO DO.
09:38:43AM HOPE OUR KIDS COME HOME SAFE.
09:38:47AM NOT SHOT LIKE AN ANIMAL IN THE STREET.
09:38:51AM NOT THUGS AND GANGSTERS BUT THE REAL THUGS OR GANGSTERS
09:38:55AM WHICH HAVE IS A POLICE.
09:38:57AM THAT IS NOT A BIG DEAL.
09:38:58AM TRAYVON MARTIN IS NOT A BIG DEAL.
09:39:00AM MALCOLM X GOT A LITTLE BIT OF SENSE AND STARTED
09:39:09AM UNDERSTANDING AFRICAN INTERNATIONALISM AND MARTIN LUTHER
09:39:13AM KING, JR. AND ELIJAH MUHAMMED AND ALL THE NONSENSE FEEDING
09:39:17AM AFRICAN PEOPLE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF COONS THAT THEY WERE
09:39:25AM GET ON IT AND ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND THE WHITE FOLKS HAD TO
09:39:29AM KILL THEM.
09:39:29AM BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THE STUFF THAT WHITE FOLKS,
09:39:33AM BENJAMIN CRUMP AND THAT POLICE MURDER, THAT IS NO BIG DEAL.
09:39:36AM WHITE AMERICA IN THIS WHITE WORLD IS 11% OF THIS POPULATION
09:39:42AM IS RESPONSIBLE, WHITE BUSINESSES, WHITE GOVERNMENTS IS
09:39:46AM RESPONSIBLE FOR 100,000 DEATHS A DAY -- A DAY!
09:39:51AM BLACK DEATHS A DAY FROM ALL KINDS OF REASONS.
09:39:54AM AND THEY GOT THE BLACK BAFOONS AROUND HERE TALKING OF SPEED
09:39:58AM BUMPS AND PARKS AND FOUR-WAY STOP SIGNS AND BLACK HISTORY
09:40:02AM MONTH AND MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. PARADES AND JUNETEENTH.
09:40:05AM IT'S IGNORANT.
09:40:06AM WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT REPARATIONS AND WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT
09:40:11AM WHAT THESE WHITE FOLKS OWE US.
09:40:12AM WE GOT TO TALK OF FIGHTING THE POLICE FOR REAL.
09:40:15AM FOR REAL, FOR REAL.
09:40:17AM THE SAME WAY WHITE FOLKS WANT THEIR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS,
09:40:21AM THE SAME WAY WE WANT OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS, TO FIGHT
09:40:25AM BACK THE PEOPLE WHO ARE MURDERING US EVERY DAY.
09:40:27AM WE WANT OUR RIGHTS FOR THAT.
09:40:28AM WE NEED OUR REPARATIONS.
09:40:30AM 623 TRILLION OWED TO US.
09:40:33AM WE NEED THE REPARATIONS THAT THIS CITY OWE US.
09:40:37AM THIS GARBAGE CITY OWE US, THAT IS RISING.
09:40:39AM WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND, EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD FOR WHITE FOLK
09:40:43AM AND LOOK GARBAGE IN OUR COMMUNITY!
09:40:46AM WHITE FOLKS AIN'T THAT SMART, BUT Y'ALL YOU THINK WE ARE
09:40:49AM THAT DUMB.
09:40:50AM WE ARE NOT THAT DUMB.
09:40:51AM WE AFRICAN PEOPLE HAVE TO GET TO IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT
09:40:55AM AFFECT OUR LIVES AND OUR CHILDREN'S LIVES.
09:40:58AM WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP LIVING LIKE THIS.
09:41:00AM YOU WHITE FOLKS UP THERE TRICKING US.
09:41:01AM YOU TRICKED US IN A LITTLE VOTE THE OTHER DAY.
09:41:04AM Y'ALL TRICKING US.
09:41:07AM WE ARE NOT THAT STUPID.
09:41:08AM HIM HERE TO REPRESENT AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:41:10AM WE AIN'T THAT STUPID.
09:41:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:41:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, PASTOR FRANK WILLIAM.
09:41:34AM LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
09:41:37AM AND I COMMEND BROTHER AND SISTER THAT CAME UP HERE AND SPOKE
09:41:43AM BEFORE I DID BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DOING NOTHING BUT TELLING
09:41:46AM THE TRUTH.
09:41:47AM AND THE TRUTH NEEDS TO IT BE HEARD.
09:41:49AM WHEN Y'ALL SIT UP THERE AND LOOK AT US LIKE WE ARE STUPID.
09:41:54AM YOU NEED TO TAKE A HINT.
09:41:56AM WE ARE BUSY PEOPLE.
09:41:59AM THE REASON WE ARE TRYING TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT, -- I WAS
09:42:05AM LOOKING AT TV THE OTHER NIGHT.
09:42:07AM IT WAS A SHAME I HAD TO LOOK AT IT.
09:42:10AM MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE.
09:42:11AM BOY, THE WAY THEY DID THAT POOR FELLA, BOY, IT IS
09:42:16AM RIDICULOUS.
09:42:17AM BUT THEY AIN'T ONLY DOING HIM LIKE THAT.
09:42:19AM THEY ARE DOING ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE OF COLOR.
09:42:23AM TREATING US ALL IN THE WORSE WAY YOU CAN.
09:42:27AM YOU KNOW, THIS UNITED STATES AIN'T WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO
09:42:33AM BE.
09:42:33AM AND I'M HERE TO LET YOU KNOW, I AM A BELIEVER IN JESUS
09:42:39AM CHRIST.
09:42:39AM I TRUSTED IN GOD ALMIGHTY.
09:42:43AM BUT Y'ALL TRYING TO TAKE EVERYTHING AWAY FROM ME.
09:42:46AM MY RIGHTS.
09:42:51AM GOD-GIVEN RIGHT IS IN VIOLATION.
09:42:54AM CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT IS IN VIOLATION.
09:42:58AM OUR HUMAN RIGHT IS IN VIOLATION.
09:43:01AM OUR PRAYING LIFE IS IN VIOLATION.
09:43:06AM OUR WORSHIP RIGHT IS IN VIOLATION.
09:43:09AM EVERYTHING Y'ALL HEAR ME SAYING IS IN VIOLATION WHEN IT
09:43:15AM COMES TO PEOPLE OF COLOR.
09:43:16AM BUT I NEED TO LET Y'ALL KNOW SOMETHING, AS LONG AS WE GOT
09:43:21AM LIFE IN OUR BODY, WE ARE GOING TO KEEP COMING HERE.
09:43:24AM YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DISCOURAGE IT.
09:43:27AM WE WILL SPEAK THE TRUTH TO YOU WHETHER YOU WANT TO HEAR IT
09:43:31AM OR NOT.
09:43:31AM WHY DON'T YOU WOULD, FOR MAYOR OF THIS CITY.
09:43:39AM I AM BEING HONEST WITH YOU.
09:43:40AM BECAUSE Y'ALL GOT UP THERE WHAT YOU CALL MAYOR.
09:43:44AM SHE AIN'T DOING NOTHING FOR US.
09:43:46AM AND SHE -- BUT WE GOT TO CARE ABOUT OURSELVES.
09:43:51AM I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR ME TALK LIKE THIS, BUT I
09:43:55AM GOT TO SPEAK THE TRUTH, BECAUSE YOU GOT PEOPLE COMING AT ME
09:43:59AM NOW AT MY CHURCH.
09:44:00AM CITATION THE CHURCH.
09:44:02AM WANT TO GIVE IT TO THE PUERTO RICAN PEOPLE.
09:44:07AM PUERTO RICAN PEOPLE THINK THEY WHITE.
09:44:10AM BUT THEY DON'T REALIZE THEY JUST LIKE I AM.
09:44:15AM IN THE SAME THAT I AM IN.
09:44:19AM REGARDLESS OF WHAT THEY THINK OF THEMSELVES.
09:44:21AM BUT WE GOT TO UNDERSTAND, YOU PEOPLE THAT CALL YOURSELF
09:44:26AM POLITICIANS, START TREATING BLACK FOLK LIKE THEY ARE
09:44:30AM SUPPOSED TO BE TREATED.
09:44:32AM THAT IS ALL WE ASK.
09:44:33AM WE ARE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
09:44:35AM STOP RINGING THAT DAMN THING.
09:44:38AM I HEARD IT THE FIRST TIME --[BELL RINGING]
09:44:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:44:43AM >> CAN I START?
09:44:58AM AILEEN HENDERSON.
09:45:00AM 904 WEST FRIDLEY STREET, TAMPA.
09:45:04AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:45:05AM MY MOM PASSED UNEXPECTEDLY IN LATE NOVEMBER 2022.
09:45:10AM SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE KNOWN HER.
09:45:14AM HER NAME WAS VICTORIA GONZALEZ DAVIS.
09:45:17AM SHE WAS A TOUGH, STRONG AND FIERCE WOMAN WHO I ADMIRED
09:45:22AM IMMENSELY.
09:45:25AM MY BROTHER REMINDED ME A FEW DAYS AFTER SHE PASSED THAT MOM
09:45:28AM HAD PREPARED US FOR MOMENTS LIKE THIS BECAUSE SHE RAISED US
09:45:33AM IN HER LIKENESS.
09:45:34AM AND HE IS RIGHT.
09:45:35AM SOMEHOW MY HEART DIDN'T FEEL QUITE SO HEAVY ANYMORE.
09:45:41AM AND I REALIZED THE TRUTH IN HIS WORDS.
09:45:44AM WHICH BRINGS ME TODAY SUMMONING THAT STRENGTH AND FIERCENESS
09:45:50AM TO FIGHT FOR SOMETHING I BELIEVE IN.
09:45:51AM SOMETHING I KNOW COUNCIL CAN MAKE RIGHT.
09:45:55AM AS I AM SURE MOST IF NOT ALL OF YOU HEARD BY NOW, MEMORIAL
09:46:01AM PARK CEMETERY, THE OVER 100-YEAR-OLD DESIGNATED BLACK
09:46:05AM CEMETERY THAT BOAST AS VETERANS MONUMENT WAS RECENTLY SOLD
09:46:09AM AT A BLIND BID AUCTION FOR $18,000.
09:46:12AM WHAT LITTLE WE KNOW IS SOMEONE IN THE CITY THOUGHT IT WAS A
09:46:16AM GOOD IDEA TO LET THE PROPERTY FORECLOSURE AND ALLOW IT TO GO
09:46:19AM TO AUCTION.
09:46:21AM THE PLAN WAS THE CITY WOULD BID ON IT BECAUSE THEIR
09:46:24AM INTENTIONS WERE TO TAKE OVER OR SO THE STORY GOES.
09:46:27AM WELL, THE CITY WAS OUTBID BY $10,000 AND LOST THE CEMETERY
09:46:32AM TO A FOR-PROFIT HOUSE FLIPPER WHO PLANS ON SELLING IT.
09:46:36AM THIS IS THE SAME CEMETERY THAT THE CITY COLD US THEY WOULD
09:46:41AM HAVE IT GO TO A NONPROFIT AND THEY WOULD MAINTAIN IT UNTIL
09:46:44AM THEN.
09:46:44AM THIS IS ALSO THE SAME CEMETERY WHERE A PRESS CONFERENCE WAS
09:46:49AM HELD DAYS BEFORE MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. DAY AND I QUOTE,
09:46:53AM PROTECTING FORGOTTEN, ABANDONED AND VULNERABLE CEMETERIES IS
09:46:58AM THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
09:46:59AM MAYOR JANE CASTOR, JANUARY 14, 2022.
09:47:07AM AT THAT PRESS CONFERENCE, MAYOR CASTOR QUOTES MARTIN
09:47:12AM LUTHER KING, JR., THE TIME IS RIGHT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT.
09:47:15AM BUT HERE WE ARE TODAY WONDERING WHAT WENT WRONG?
09:47:20AM HOW CAN THE CITY BE SO RECKLESS AND IRRESPONSIBLE WITH ITS
09:47:24AM HISTORY, ITS BLACK HISTORY.
09:47:27AM THIS SEEMS TO BE THE WAY OF THE CITY THOUGH, BECAUSE
09:47:30AM RECENTLY NOT EVEN THE REAL BOUNDARIES FOR DOBYVILLE WERE
09:47:37AM INTACT.
09:47:37AM CHANGED HISTORY, BLACK HISTORY, THAT, COUNCIL, HOW HISTORY,
09:47:41AM BLACK HISTORY, IS ERASE THE AND OR FORGOTTEN.
09:47:45AM LET ME ADD SAYING THERE IS NO FUNDING IS NOT AN OPTION.
09:47:48AM WE ARE SPENDING BILLIONS TO MAKE TAMPA A BETTER PLACE.
09:47:50AM I KNOW AND YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A WILL, THERE IS A WAY.
09:47:54AM I IMPLORE YOU.
09:47:56AM I BEG YOU, FIND THE WAY.
09:47:59AM FIND THAT WAY.
09:48:01AM SAVE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:48:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:48:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:48:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
09:48:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR LEGAL.
09:48:11AM I DID NOT MAKE A STATEMENT ABOUT THE STATEMENT THE OTHER DAY
09:48:14AM ONCE I FOUND OUT THE PROCESS.
09:48:15AM I DO HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH MR. MASSEY AND MISS
09:48:22AM TRAVIS AS IT RELATES TO THE CEMETERY, SO I WILL GO AHEAD AND
09:48:27AM SAY IT NOW.
09:48:28AM THE NEW PROPERTY OWNER OF THE CEMETERY SHOULD KNOW THIS IS
09:48:31AM THE FOCAL POINT OF THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY.
09:48:34AM I LOOK FORWARD TO THEIR INVESTMENT IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
09:48:36AM I WOULD LIKE TO GET WITH THE DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY OFFLINE
09:48:40AM AND MAKE SURE THIS NEW PROPERTY OWNER UNDERSTANDS THE
09:48:44AM COUNCIL'S AND COMMUNITY'S EXPECTATION FOR THE HISTORIC
09:48:47AM AFRICAN-AMERICAN CEMETERY.
09:48:48AM SEVERAL CALLS ON THIS.
09:48:50AM AND I AM SURE THE -- THE LEGAL TEAM AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
09:48:56AM DIRECTOR WILL GIVE ME SOME ANSWERS AND DEAL WITH THIS
09:48:58AM ACCORDINGLY.
09:48:59AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:49:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:49:02AM YES, SIR?
09:49:06AM >> RAY REED, 1421 HILTON PLACE, OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, TAMPA,
09:49:10AM FLORIDA.
09:49:10AM SOME OF YOU I HAVE MET BEFORE.
09:49:13AM MR. MANISCALCO, I APOLOGIZE.
09:49:18AM WE NEVER DID GET TOGETHER AT THAT CEMETERY AT 30th AND
09:49:24AM SLIGH.
09:49:24AM AND I WANT TO TELL YOU IN MY RESEARCH -- I HAVE GONE THROUGH
09:49:27AM SEVEN YEARS DEATH CERTIFICATES, BURIAL DEPARTMENTS,
09:49:32AM NEWSPAPER.COM.
09:49:33AM UNFORTUNATELY THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN 1902 AND 1903, THEY DID
09:49:37AM THE OBITUARIES PAST THAT AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED OR NEVER
09:49:42AM DIED.
09:49:42AM I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT CEMETERY WHICH IS INAPPROPRIATELY
09:49:46AM AN INCORRECTLY ATTRIBUTED TO A CIVIL WAR VETERAN FIGHTING
09:49:50AM FOR THE CSA ACTUALLY QUALIFIES AS AN ABANDONED
09:49:55AM AFRICAN-AMERICAN CEMETERY BECAUSE I FOUND TWO
09:49:57AM AFRICAN-AMERICAN BURIALS THERE.
09:49:59AM ONE FROM 1911 AND 1906.
09:50:02AM THE CEMETERY WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED BRICKYARD.
09:50:05AM BECAME KNOWN AS ROBLES AND SLIGH WAS ROBLES AVENUE UNTIL
09:50:10AM SLIGH -- THE CORNER OF SLIGH AND NEBRASKA WHERE THE GAS
09:50:13AM STATION IS WAS A COUNTRY HOME.
09:50:16AM THE HISTORY OF TAMPA MAY NOT AGREE WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS
09:50:20AM HERE ENTERALLY THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, BUT THE HISTORY OF TAMPA
09:50:25AM HAS BEEN CANDY-COATED AND SO MUCH RIDICULOUSNESS, THE ONLY
09:50:29AM THING I CAN ALIGN IT TO IS IN THE MOVIE "THE PRODUCERS."
09:50:34AM SPRING TIME FOR HITLER, PORTRAYING WORLD WAR II AND DANCING
09:50:42AM GIRLS.
09:50:42AM THAT IS WHAT WE DID WITH TAMPA HISTORY WITH THE CUBAN
09:50:45AM POPULATION.
09:50:46AM THE EARLY IMMIGRANTS THAT BUILT THE CIGAR FACTORIES.
09:50:49AM THEY WERE TREATED NO DIFFERENTLY THAN THE BLACK POPULATION.
09:50:51AM AND WHEN YOU READ SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE NEWSPAPERS THAT
09:50:56AM WENT ON AND WHAT IS PORTRAYED IN THE HISTORY CENTER, IF I
09:50:59AM WAS UP THERE, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT THE HISTORY CENTER
09:51:04AM STORY CENTER, GET RID OF THE H-I.
09:51:07AM BECAUSE A LOT OF IT IS MALARKEY.
09:51:11AM I WAS MISS HENDERSON OUT AT MEMORIAL PARK THIS PAST WEEK.
09:51:15AM ONE OF THE PROJECTS HE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IS GOING THROUGH
09:51:19AM AND EVERY SKETCHY AND ERASED CEMETERY RECORDING THE NUMBER
09:51:23AM OF DEATH CERTIFICATES THROUGH 1939, HILLSBOROUGH ONLY STARTED
09:51:28AM FILING THEM IN JULY OF 1913.
09:51:29AM SO PRIOR TO THAT TIME, SOME TAMPA BURIAL PERMITS -- SINCE
09:51:34AM YOU HAD WEST TAMPA, GARY, FEDERAL DISTRICT.
09:51:38AM THEIR INFORMATION IS GONE.
09:51:39AM I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT UP UNTIL 1939, I FOUND 4900 AND
09:51:48AM SOME ODD DEATH CERTIFICATES.
09:51:49AM WHEN I BACKED OUT THE KNOWN PEOPLE AT MEMORIAL PARK.
09:51:52AM IT IS ONLY SUPPOSED TO FROM HAVE 5200 OR 5300 PEOPLE IN
09:51:58AM TOTAL THERE.
09:51:59AM SOMEONE HERE WILL BE ALSO SPEAKING AT THE TOTAL BODY COUNT
09:52:02AM THERE.
09:52:03AM BUT THAT PLACE IS FULL.
09:52:04AM AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT MEMORIALIZED THERE
09:52:08AM THAT ARE BURIED THERE.
09:52:11AM THANK YOU.
09:52:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:52:13AM >> HELLO.
09:52:17AM HALEY GREED.
09:52:20AM I LIVE IN SEFFNER.
09:52:21AM FOR A LONG TIME, IT HAS BEEN KNOWN A MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY
09:52:27AM HOLDS A LARGE NUMBER OF UNMARKED BURIALS.
09:52:29AM LAST SUMMER I UNDERTOOK A PROJECT TO COUNT THE NUMBER OF
09:52:35AM BURIALS.
09:52:36AM MY ESTIMATE IS AROUND 20,000.
09:52:38AM THE NUMBER OF MARKED BURIALS LISTED ON FINDAGRAVE.COM IS
09:52:45AM 5576.
09:52:45AM THAT MEANS APPROXIMATELY 14,000 UNMARKED BURIALS IN MEMORIAL
09:52:50AM PARK.
09:52:52AM FOR FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE COUNT, FLORIDA STATE DEATH
09:52:56AM CERTIFICATE ON FAMILYSEARCH.ORG AND A SPREADSHEET 5548 FROM
09:53:02AM 1930 TO 1939.
09:53:05AM MAY BE UNMARKED BURIALS MOVED FROM OTHER CEMETERIES AND DIED
09:53:10AM OUTSIDE OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THEN BROUGHT BACK.
09:53:12AM THE SECOND PART OF THE COUNT, A SPREADSHEET OF MEMORIAL PARK
09:53:17AM OBITUARIES IN THE FLORIDA SENTINEL NEWS PAPER FROM 2008 TO.
09:53:23AM THE TOTAL IS 9678.
09:53:28AM THE NUMBER IS SOMEWHAT LIKELY LOW BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE
09:53:32AM RECEIVED AN OBITUARY.
09:53:33AM AS WELL AS THOSE WHO WERE BURIED THERE AFTER 2004.
09:53:38AM BECAUSE NO DOCUMENTS THAT CURRENTLY PUBLICLY AVAILABLE FROM
09:53:42AM 1940 TO 1958, I CAN ONLY ESTIMATE PLACING THE NUMBER OF
09:53:47AM BURIALS AROUND THAT TIME TO BE AROUND 5,000.
09:53:49AM ALL IN ALL 20,000 BURIALS.
09:53:52AM THE CITY OF TAMPA'S CHANCE TO DO RIGHT BY HISTORIC BLACK
09:53:58AM CEMETERIES AND SHOULDN'T BE MISSED.
09:53:59AM THANK YOU.
09:54:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:54:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, SARA TAYLOR, MARKETING DIRECTOR OF STEEL
09:54:17AM GROUP.
09:54:18AM WE ARE AN ERECTION AND STEEL TAMPA COMPANY.
09:54:21AM WE WORK OVER THE SOUTHEAST AND PRIMARILY TAMPA.
09:54:25AM SOME OF THE PROJECTS ARE HANNA CITY AVENUE PROJECT, TAMPA
09:54:28AM CONVENTION CENTER, JW MARRIOTT, EXCUSE ME, UNIVERSITY OF
09:54:34AM TAMPA, TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL JUST TO NAME A FEW, BUT WHAT
09:54:37AM MAKES GMS SO SPECIAL WE ARE NOT JUST BUILDING SKY LINES, WE
09:54:41AM ARE BUILDING CAREERS AND THESE TWO GENTLEMEN ARE
09:54:44AM REPRESENTATIONS OF THAT.
09:54:45AM ONE OF THE MOST REWARDING PARTS OF MY JOB IS I GET TO
09:54:49AM OVERSEE TALENT ACQUISITION AND RECRUIT FOR OUR
09:54:52AM APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
09:54:54AM NCCR RECOGNIZED.
09:54:58AM IT IS RECOGNIZED BY THE FLORIDA -- THE STATE FLORIDA
09:55:02AM DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
09:55:03AM THESE TWO GENTLEMEN ARE APPRENTICES AT GMF.
09:55:07AM AND OUR PROGRAM IS THREE YEARS LONG.
09:55:10AM IT INCLUDES FULL TRAINING.
09:55:12AM OUR APPRENTICES ARE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
09:55:15AM THEY RECEIVE FULL BENEFITS, PTO, PERKS AND ALL THAT.
09:55:20AM BUT WHY I'M HERE TODAY IS FOR THEM TO SHARE THE IMPACT THAT
09:55:23AM OUR APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM HAD ON THEIR LIVES.
09:55:26AM SEVERAL WEEKS AGO WE HAD THE WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO MOST A
09:55:30AM CAREER FAIR AT GMF WHERE WE HAD VENDORS FROM ALL OVER THE
09:55:34AM NATION BUT PRIMARILY STUDENTS FROM IT THE TAMPA BAY REGION.
09:55:37AM SOME OF THE SCHOOLS REPRESENTED INCLUDED RIDGE TECHNICAL,
09:55:42AM ROOSEVELT, FT. MEADE AND KATHLEEN AND BARTOW.
09:55:45AM SO THESE STUDENTS GOT TO COME TO GMF TO MEET WITH THESE
09:55:51AM VENDOR ARE HAVE HAND-ON EXPERIENCE AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS
09:55:54AM LIKE TO HAVE A CAREER IN CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE OUR JOB TO
09:55:57AM TEACH THEM STRUCTURAL SEAL IRONWORKING.
09:56:01AM THEIR JOB TO SHOW UP WITH 100% EFFORT.
09:56:04AM WE LOOK FOR NOT HOW MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE ON THEIR
09:56:08AM RESUME, BUT WHO THEY ARE AS A PERSON.
09:56:09AM THEY COME STRAIGHT OUT OF SCHOOL, MOST OF THEM.
09:56:11AM WE LOOK FOR THINGS LIKE COMPETITIVENESS AND ENERGY AND WORK
09:56:16AM ETHIC AND ATTITUDE AND HUMILITY.
09:56:19AM THOSE ARE THE THINGS WE LOOK FOR.
09:56:21AM NOT JUST OUR JOB TO GROW THEM AS A PROFESSIONAL BUT A PERSON
09:56:25AM TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THEIR LIFE.
09:56:27AM I AM EXCITED FOR TOMMY AND TREY TO SHARE HOW THE
09:56:31AM APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM AFFECTED THEIR LIFE.
09:56:34AM >> I AM TOMMY ASHWOOD, AND I AM AN APPRENTICE FOR THE GMF
09:56:39AM PROGRAM.
09:56:39AM I STARTED OFF, LIKE, GOING TO JOB TO JOB.
09:56:42AM I WAS LOOKING TO ARE A CAREER.
09:56:44AM AND I LANDED ON GMF, THEIR APPRENTICESHIP GROUP.
09:56:48AM EVER SINCE THEN, I HAVE BEEN GROWING MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY.
09:56:52AM I HAVE BEEN MEETING SOME OF THE SMARTEST PEOPLE, COOL
09:56:55AM CLASSMATES.
09:56:56AM EVERY DAY JUST LEARNING, GROWING, WORKING IN TAMPA
09:56:59AM CONVENTION CENTER TO HANNA CITY AVE.
09:57:02AM IT HAS BEEN A GREAT IMPACT ON MY LIFE.
09:57:04AM >> GOOD MORNING, TREY WILLIAMSTON.
09:57:08AM APPRENTICESHIP FOR GMF STEEL GROUP.
09:57:13AM THEY GAVE ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN THEIR COMPANY FROM HCC.
09:57:16AM WILL HE LET ME CONTINUE MY CAREER AND LETTING ME GROW AND
09:57:20AM GROW.
09:57:20AM I HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN IN CLASS AND ON THE JOB.
09:57:23AM MEETING NEW PEOPLE, DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENTS.
09:57:26AM AND I AM JUST VERY EXCITED TO SEE WHERE I KEEP GROWING AND
09:57:30AM WHERE GMF GROWS.
09:57:32AM >> SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE TO YOU
09:57:37AM TO SHOW THAT THESE PROGRAMS WORK.
09:57:39AM OUR PROGRAM WORKS.
09:57:41AM AND WE ARE EXCITED TO LOOK AT THIS YEAR DOUBLING OUR
09:57:44AM NUMBERS.
09:57:44AM WE ARE GROWING EXPONENTIALLY.
09:57:47AM AND IT IS REALLY EXCITING TO GET STUDENTS WHO DIDN'T REALLY
09:57:51AM KNOW WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO AFTER SCHOOL, DIDN'T THINK
09:57:55AM COLLEGE WAS A RIGHT FIT FOR THEM.
09:57:56AM THEY WANTED TO WORK WITH THEIR HANDS.
09:57:58AM LIKED THE IDEA OF BUILDING THINGS AND BEING IN CONSTRUCTION.
09:58:01AM WE GET TO PROVIDE THAT.
09:58:02AM THEY GET TO BE IN THE CLASSROOM AND BE IN THE FIELD AND MUCH
09:58:05AM DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER PROGRAM THEY ARE A PART OF.
09:58:07AM I AM THANKFUL THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO SHARE
09:58:10AM WITH YOU THE POSITIVE IMPACT WE GET TO HAVE TO PUT OUR
09:58:15AM FINGERPRINTS ALL OVER TAMPA OF THE AMAZING PROJECTS AND
09:58:19AM LEAVE A LEGACY AND IMPACT ON THE TAMPA BAY REGION.
09:58:22AM THANK YOU.
09:58:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:58:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, ALL THREE OF
09:58:26AM YOU.
09:58:27AM APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM ARE SO IMPORTANT, AND I AM SUPPORTIVE
09:58:30AM BECAUSE A PATH TO STRONG MIDDLE CLASS AND TO THE AMERICAN
09:58:33AM DREAM.
09:58:34AM I WOULD SAY THAT TO ANYBODY THAT IS YOUNG THAT IS LOOKING
09:58:37AM FOR WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR FUTURE IN A CAREER PATH.
09:58:40AM SO I AM GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE -- YOU ARE ON THE PATH
09:58:44AM TO THE AMERICAN DREAM.
09:58:46AM YOU ARE GETTING PAID AND EARNING BENEFITS WHEN YOU ARE
09:58:51AM WORKING AND LEARNING AND INTO ONE CAN TAKE THE SKILL AWAY
09:58:54AM FROM YOU.
09:58:54AM MY QUESTION IS HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON THE HANNA AVENUE
09:58:58AM PROJECT?
09:58:58AM >> ABOUT.
09:58:59AM >> WE DID, UP TO THIS POINT, YES.
09:59:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU LIVE IN TAMPA.
09:59:03AM >> I PERSONALLY DO NOT.
09:59:05AM >> I LIVE IN BARTOW.
09:59:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU LIVE IN TAMPA?
09:59:09AM >> I LIVE IN PLANT CITY.
09:59:11AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOUNG LADY, CAN YOU GIVE MISS KELLY YOUR
09:59:14AM INFORMATION.
09:59:14AM MY OFFICE CAN CONTACT YOU.
09:59:16AM YOUNG LADY RIGHT THERE.
09:59:19AM SHE WILL TAKE YOUR INFORMATION AND GIVE IT TO MY AIDE.
09:59:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU ALL AND MISS
09:59:29AM SHARP, IF YOU CAN PLEASE TAKE THEIR INFORMATION AND GIVE IT
09:59:32AM TO ALL OF US, ALL OF THE COUNCILPEOPLE.
09:59:35AM COME UP.
09:59:36AM YOU ARE AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM AND PEOPLE BEHIND YOU THAT
09:59:39AM ARE GOING TO ASK THIS QUESTION TODAY.
09:59:41AM IS YOUR APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM STATE CERTIFIED?
09:59:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
09:59:49AM STATE OF FLORIDA.
09:59:50AM >> RECOGNIZED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
09:59:52AM WE HAVE A D.O.E. NUMBER.
09:59:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:59:55AM >> THANK YOU.
09:59:56AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
09:59:57AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:00:05AM ASHANTE TUCKER.
10:00:07AM I WORK FOR DPR CONSTRUCTION ON THE HANNA.
10:00:12AM I AM IN THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
10:00:14AM BEFORE I CAME, I KNEW NOTHING ABOUT CONSTRUCTION.
10:00:17AM LITTLE KNOWLEDGE.
10:00:18AM NOW THAT I AM IN THE PROGRAM I KNOW EVERYTHING -- I AM
10:00:21AM GETTING TO KNOW MORE, BUILDING, POURING CONCRETE, SEEING HOW
10:00:25AM EVERYTHING GETS LAID OUT.
10:00:26AM THEY ARE TEACHING ME HOW TO DRIVE THE VEHICLES.
10:00:30AM GO TO CLASS MONDAY AND WEDNESDAYS.
10:00:32AM AND I AM JUST -- I WANT TO STAY.
10:00:36AM TRY TO GROW, GET AMONG KNOWLEDGE.
10:00:39AM BUILD.
10:00:40AM A GOOD COMPANY.
10:00:41AM THEY TAKE CARE OF YOU.
10:00:42AM NO PROBLEMS.
10:00:43AM JUST -- BEST COMPANY I EVER WORKED FOR.
10:00:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:00:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST, LET ME SAY WE ARE VERY PROUD OF
10:00:53AM YOU.
10:00:53AM YOU ARE PART OF SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO PAVE THE WAY FOR
10:00:57AM A GOOD LIFE.
10:00:58AM WORKING HARD AND EARNING GOOD MONEY AND GOOD BENEFITS.
10:01:01AM YOU KNOW, YOU WILL NEVER HAVE TO WORRY BECAUSE SOMEONE WILL
10:01:04AM ALWAYS HAVE YOUR BACK.
10:01:06AM >> RIGHT.
10:01:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU LIVE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:01:08AM AND THE COMMUNITY?
10:01:09AM >> YES.
10:01:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:01:10AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
10:01:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:01:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, CONGRATULATIONS FOR FINDING A CAREER
10:01:16AM THAT YOU CAN WORK IN.
10:01:17AM >> THANK YOU.
10:01:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT SPECIFIC APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM ARE YOU
10:01:21AM IN?
10:01:22AM >> WITH THE CONCRETE.
10:01:24AM THE CONCRETE.
10:01:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CONCRETE.
10:01:29AM YOU ARE WORKING WITH CONCRETE.
10:01:30AM >> YES, MA'AM.
10:01:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:01:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:01:35AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: EVERY TIME I SEE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT DON'T
10:01:38AM KNOW THEIR WAY.
10:01:40AM SOME THAT ARE COME OUT OF THE PRISON SYSTEM AND HAVE
10:01:43AM MONITORS AND SITTING AT HOME AND THAT IS HOW THEY GET IN
10:01:46AM TROUBLE BECAUSE THEY GET BOARD STILL.
10:01:48AM I TRY TO SEND THEM TO SOME OF THE PROGRAMS IN THE EAST TAMPA
10:01:51AM AND PROGRAMS, WELDING.
10:01:56AM I KNOW WE HARP ON THE STATE CERTIFICATION.
10:01:58AM AND THAT IS GREAT.
10:01:59AM WE GOT TO HAVE THAT, BUT I WANT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT HAVING AN
10:02:03AM OPPORTUNITY GET THEM IN THE DOOR, TO GET THEM INTO SOME
10:02:06AM SEATS AND START TO GET THEM CERTIFIED WHILE THEY ARE WORKING
10:02:09AM MAKING MONEY.
10:02:10AM FOR ME, NOT ALL ABOUT THE STATE, IT IS ABOUT ME GETTING
10:02:14AM PEOPLE OFF THE STREET.
10:02:16AM I GOT TO GET THEM IN THE DOORS.
10:02:18AM GET THEM CERTIFIED.
10:02:21AM I KNOW THAT IN COMMUNITIES.
10:02:24AM I SEE SIGNS THAT "WE'LL HIRE."
10:02:29AM IF YOU HAVE A SIGN, GET THEM IN AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET THEM
10:02:33AM IN A STATE PROGRAM.
10:02:34AM DON'T LET THEM JUST WALK BY.
10:02:36AM BECAUSE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE NOT IN A STATE
10:02:39AM PROGRAM, WE CAN'T GIVE THEM THE WORK.
10:02:40AM I WANT THEM WORKING.
10:02:41AM AND NOW GET THEM CERTIFIED BECAUSE IF THEY ARE WORKING, THEY
10:02:46AM ARE NOT GETTING INTO TROUBLE.
10:02:48AM AND I KNOW ALL TOO WELL, ESPECIALLY IN MY COMMUNITY, THAT IS
10:02:51AM WHY I WANT TO GET THOSE PEOPLE -- THEM PEOPLE IN THE DOOR.
10:02:54AM GET THEM INTO A STATE PROGRAM, BUT GET THEM DOING SOMETHING
10:02:59AM VERSUS SITTING HOME DOING NOTHING.
10:03:00AM THANK YOU FOR COMING AND SHARING WITH US.
10:03:03AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
10:03:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MA'AM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
10:03:06AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
10:03:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THROUGH RETIREMENT, THROUGH ATTRITION,
10:03:09AM THROUGH WHATEVER, OUR CLASS PEOPLE ARE DWINDLING AND WE
10:03:15AM DON'T HAVE PEOPLE TO REPLACE THEM.
10:03:17AM THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE.
10:03:19AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
10:03:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK EVERY PROGRAM TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO
10:03:23AM BACKFILL ALL THESE CRAFTSPEOPLE WE ARE SO NEEDING ESPECIALLY
10:03:27AM HERE IN TAMPA BAY.
10:03:28AM THANK YOU.
10:03:28AM >> ARE WELCOME.
10:03:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:03:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T SEE ME AND HAVE
10:03:35AM PERIPHERAL VISION ALL THE TIME.
10:03:37AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
10:03:38AM NO MATTER CONCRETE, BRICK LAYER, ELECTRICIAN OR PLUMBER, NO
10:03:43AM MATTER IF YOU ARE A ROOFER, NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO.
10:03:46AM THOSE ARE JOBS THAT NECESSITY MAKES IT GO FORWARD.
10:03:49AM SOME INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE COLLEGE DEGREES CAN'T DO MOST OF
10:03:56AM THAT WORK.
10:03:57AM AND SOME OF THAT WORK, IF NOT ALL OF THAT WORK PAY AS VERY
10:04:01AM GOOD LIVING WAGE.
10:04:02AM MY ADVICE TO YOU AND ALL THE APPRENTICESHIP INDIVIDUALS,
10:04:06AM LEARN YOUR TRADE, BECAUSE YOU ALWAYS WILL BE IN NEED, NO
10:04:11AM MATTER WITH THIS COMPANY OR ANOTHER COMPANY OR ON YOUR OWN.
10:04:14AM THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT MAKE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
10:04:17AM DOLLARS JUST INSTALLING WINDOWS.
10:04:20AM BUT THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.
10:04:22AM LIKE YOURSELF, CONCRETE IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
10:04:26AM WHEN YOU POUR A DRIVEWAY OF A BIG HOUSE, SAY 30 X 40 OR 50,
10:04:33AM LOOKING AT $8,000, $12,000, $15,000.
10:04:37AM MONEY TO BE MADE.
10:04:38AM YOU WILL GOT TO DO WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW.
10:04:41AM LEARN YOUR TRADE.
10:04:42AM LEARN HOW TO LIVE.
10:04:43AM AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALWAYS SAY $5 OR $10 A WEEK FOR A
10:04:48AM RAINY DAY.
10:04:49AM THAT IS THE ADVICE I WAS GIVEN.
10:04:50AM THAT IS THE ADVICE I AM GIVING YOU.
10:04:52AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:52AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
10:04:53AM THANK YOU.
10:04:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:04:55AM >> HI, COUNCIL.
10:05:07AM CAN I START.
10:05:09AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:05:10AM THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK.
10:05:12AM HALEY FRANKLIN.
10:05:14AM I AM AN ACCOUNT MANAGER AT PRO LINK STAFFING.
10:05:16AM I WAS ACTUALLY AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IN CARROLLTON, KENTUCKY.
10:05:20AM SO I NOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO GET OUT AND MEET YOUR LOCAL
10:05:23AM CITY OFFICIALS AND I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS FOR YOU GUYS
10:05:26AM TO MAKE DECISIONS.
10:05:27AM AND YOU ALL BEING HERE AS WELL.
10:05:29AM SO SI APPRECIATE THAT FOR SURE ON A PERSONAL LEVEL.
10:05:32AM I'M HERE TO JUST PRESENT ON MY COMPANY.
10:05:36AM I AM BRAND-NEW WITH PRO LINK STAFFING AT WEST KENNEDY
10:05:41AM BOULEVARD.
10:05:41AM I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THE WORKFORCE IS IN A CITY LIKE THIS OF
10:05:46AM THIS MAGNITUDE.
10:05:47AM SO WE HELP STAFF IN I.T., HEALTH CARE, BUSINESS, FINANCE AND
10:05:52AM SKILLED TRADES.
10:05:53AM I LOVE TO SEE THE SKILLED TRADESPEOPLE HERE AS WELL.
10:05:56AM I HELP MATCH GREAT CANDIDATES, THEIR SKILL SETS TO GREAT
10:06:03AM EMPLOYERS.
10:06:04AM THE EMPLOYERS IN THE CITY ARE VERY IMPORTANT AS WELL KEEPING
10:06:08AM THESE FOLKS EMPLOYED AND WE HELP KIND OF POLISH THEM UP AND
10:06:11AM MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE READY TO GO IN THE CAREER THAT THEY
10:06:15AM CHOOSE.
10:06:15AM SO IF YOU KNOW OF ANYBODY THAT IS HIRING OR ANY CANDIDATES
10:06:18AM THAT WOULD LIKE A BOOST IN THEIR CAREER, GET WITH ME.
10:06:22AM I DID LEAVE SOME CARDS WITH THIS SWEET LADY UP HERE IN THE
10:06:26AM FRONT.
10:06:26AM SO THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
10:06:28AM IF ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR LIKE A CARD, I WILL BE HERE
10:06:32AM FOR A FEW.
10:06:32AM THANK YOU.
10:06:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:06:34AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:06:43AM AS ALWAYS AN HONOR AN PRIVILEGE TO BE BEFORE YOU.
10:06:46AM IT IS AN AMAZING THIS I THINK THAT WE CAN GET TOGETHER AND
10:06:49AM DO THIS AS A COMMUNITY.
10:06:50AM UNFORTUNATELY YOU BECOME THE SOUNDING BOARD FOR A LOT OF
10:06:53AM PEOPLE YELLING.
10:06:53AM AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A DRAMA-FREE LESS CONTENTIOUS SESSION
10:06:58AM TODAY.
10:06:58AM THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES ON MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
10:07:04AM AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT YOU WILL BE STANDING AT THIS
10:07:09AM PODIUM FIGHTING FOR TREES THAT A DEVELOPER WANTS TO -- WHEN
10:07:14AM A DEVELOPER WANTS TO PUT UP A PROJECT ON MEMORIAL PARK
10:07:19AM CEMETERY.
10:07:20AM THIS WILL FLIP.
10:07:21AM THIS WILL CHANGE HANDS.
10:07:23AM WILL DECIDE THAT THE BODIES DON'T MATTER.
10:07:26AM WE WILL MOVE THE THREE BLACK PEOPLE THAT DIED INTO ANOTHER
10:07:30AM CEMETERY AND SOMEBODY WILL COME ALONG AND BUILD SOMETHING
10:07:33AM BIG AND GREAT AND EXPENSIVE THAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE A MILLION
10:07:38AM DOLLARS CAN GO AHEAD AND MOVE INTO.
10:07:40AM WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP?
10:07:44AM WHEN IS IT GOING TO STOP?
10:07:46AM WHEN IS EVERY PIECE OF CLEAR LAND GOING TO BE DEEMED AS
10:07:52AM BUILDABLE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA?
10:07:56AM IT MAKES ZERO SENSE.
10:07:57AM CITIES ALL ACROSS AMERICA LOOKING FOR GREEN SPACE AND TRYING
10:08:00AM TO MAKE GREEN SPACE AVAILABLE FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE
10:08:03AM THERE.
10:08:03AM THE REASON PEOPLE MOVE TO CERTAIN PLACES.
10:08:06AM DO YOU THINK THE PARK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS
10:08:09AM OUR GREEN SPACE.
10:08:11AM IS THAT IS IT?
10:08:13AM WE JUST CLEAR CUT 100 TREES AT CIRCLE C RANCH.
10:08:18AM YOU GUYS VOTED FOR.BECAUSE YOU REZONED IT.
10:08:22AM WHEN IS REZONING GOING TO STOP?
10:08:25AM THERE IS A PLAN FOR THIS CITY TO, LIKE, FIGURE OUT WHERE WE
10:08:28AM ARE GOING TO HOLD IT BACK AND BUILD IT UP.
10:08:30AM WHAT IS GOING TO GET HIGH AND WHAT IS GOING TO STAY LOW.
10:08:33AM YOU CAN'T DRIVE DOWN MacDILL ANYMORE AND SEE THE SUN
10:08:37AM SOMETIMES SUNRISE COMES TO 10:00 SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN SOUTH
10:08:44AM TAMPA BECAUSE SOME OF THE CONDOS.
10:08:51AM YOU ARE US.
10:08:52AM YOU ARE US.
10:08:53AM YOU ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE VOICE OF THE PEOPLE IN EACH
10:08:55AM ONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
10:09:00AM IF YOU TRULY SAT DOWN WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHICH I NO
10:09:05AM DOUBT YOU DO, YOU WILL FIND OUT THEY ARE NOT FOR THE
10:09:07AM BUILDERS TO COME IN AND BUILD.
10:09:08AM THEY WANT GREEN SPACE.
10:09:10AM THEY WANT LIVABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:09:12AM THEY WANT HOUSES BUILT THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD.
10:09:16AM DO YOU THINK ANY OF THE CIRCLE CITY RANCH CONDOS WILL BE
10:09:23AM AAFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO SAY WE WANT TO MOVE BACK IN OUR
10:09:27AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:09:27AM $800,000 CONDOMINIUM.
10:09:31AM YOU ARE NOT CRAZY.
10:09:32AM I KNOW EACH ONE OF YOU.
10:09:33AM EACH INCREDIBLY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE AND I RESPECT EACH ONE OF
10:09:38AM YOU FIGURE OUT A WAY.
10:09:44AM MICROMANAGES.
10:09:45AM WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO HAVE MONEY FOR.
10:09:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
10:09:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
10:09:55AM >> BOB WHITMER, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE.
10:09:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
10:09:59AM >> HELLO, MY NAME IS SIMON ROWE, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON
10:10:11AM AGENDA ITEM 6 AND 7.
10:10:13AM START BY SPEAKING ON 7 OF THE REPORT ON BICYCLISTS.
10:10:18AM I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT WHAT IS CALLED BIKING WHILE BLACK
10:10:27AM BECAUSE THAT HAS LED TO THE CRB CREATION, BUT STILL A RACIAL
10:10:32AM DISPARITY OF PULLING OVER PEOPLE ON BICYCLES HERE IN THE
10:10:35AM CITY AND THIS IS A MAJOR LARGE-SCALE PROBLEM FOR RESIDENTS
10:10:39AM IN TAMPA THIS RACIAL DISPARITY IN PULLING PEOPLE OVER IS A
10:10:45AM CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION, NOT ON AN INDIVIDUAL LEVEL BUT CAN
10:10:48AM POTENTIAL ALLEY EFFECT HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE YEAR AFTER YEAR.
10:10:56AM IN A CRB, THAT FORMER CHIEF O'CONNOR SAID THAT THE PROGRAM
10:11:01AM HAD ENDED, BUT 60% OF THE PEOPLE WHO PULLED OVER ON BICYCLES
10:11:06AM AT THAT POINT IN THE YEAR WERE BLACK.
10:11:08AM A LARGE RACIAL DISPARITY FOR A CITY 25% BLOCK.
10:11:12AM CLEARLY NOT JUSTICE.
10:11:21AM NOTHING BUT RACIAL PROFILING IN MY OPINION.
10:11:25AM WHY THERE WAS A DOJ INVESTIGATION ON WHAT IS CALLED BIKING
10:11:29AM WHILE BLACK AND NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
10:11:31AM TO MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 6, I AM INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE
10:11:40AM ABOUT THIS CASE, BUT I HOPE I, MYSELF, I HOPE LIKE MANY OF
10:11:44AM YOU WHAT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT REPORTS TO A GRAIN OF
10:11:50AM SALT GOING BACK TO JONAS JOSEPH.
10:11:57AM THE ACCOUNTS FOR THE KILLING OF JONAS JOSEPH WERE
10:12:01AM INACCURATE.
10:12:02AM THEY SAY HE FIRED BACK TO POLICE AND IT WASN'T CLEAR.
10:12:05AM THEY SAID HE WAS SHOT 62 TIMES WHEN SHOT UPWARDS OF 115
10:12:10AM TIMES AND NO VIDEO FOOTAGE RELEASED OF THE JONAS JOSEPH
10:12:15AM CASE.
10:12:15AM TRAGIC THAT WE NEED VIDEO FOOTAGE TO PROVE A DEAD PERSON'S
10:12:24AM INNOCENCE AND THAT IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN WITH THE TYRE
10:12:29AM NICHOLS CASE UP IN MEMPHIS.
10:12:30AM WE CAN'T JUST BURY THINGS LIKE THIS.
10:12:32AM AND THE FACT THAT POLICE DEPARTMENTS ARE ABLE TO PORTRAY
10:12:37AM DEAD PEOPLE AS FELONS CRIMINALS AS RACIST.
10:12:45AM BUT BECAUSE OF THE RACISM OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS THAT
10:12:52AM THESE DEAD PEOPLE ARE CREATE TREATED AS CRIMINALS AND
10:12:56AM CHALLENGE THOSE NARRATIVES JUSTICE FOR THOSE.
10:13:00AM THEY DESERVE BETTER THAN TO BE TREATED AS CRIMINALS AND DING
10:13:05AM OF THAT IT THE LAST OF TRANSPARENCY IS A PROBLEM AND I HOPE
10:13:12AM ADDRESSED.
10:13:22AM >> GOOD MORNING, NOREEN COPELAND MILLER.
10:13:25AM AND I'M HERE BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND LISTENING TO WHAT IS
10:13:36AM GOING ON.
10:13:36AM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THIS COUNCIL.
10:13:37AM I LIVE IN EAST TAMPA AND ACTIVE AND ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY
10:13:42AM AND I HAVE TO READ THAT TAMPA LOST CONTROL OF A HISTORIC
10:13:45AM BLACK CEMETERY.
10:13:51AM A PROPERTY FLIPPER NOW OWN IT IS.
10:13:54AM I HAVE 12 FAMILY MEMBERS BURIED IN THAT CEMETERY.
10:13:58AM MY GRANDFATHER WAS IN WORLD WAR II BURIED THERE.
10:14:02AM MY BROTHER IS VETERAN.
10:14:04AM MY MOTHER IS BURIED THERE.
10:14:06AM I READ THIS ARTICLE, I WAS DISTURBED.YOU WHO DARE THE CITY
10:14:11AM COUNCIL AND CITY OF TAMPA ALLOW A FLIPPER BUY THE CEMETERY.
10:14:22AM NO RESPECT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
10:14:25AM I AM VERY CONCERNED.THAT.
10:14:27AM BUT I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WILL MAKE IT RIGHT.
10:14:36AM I AM CONCERNED THAT THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING
10:14:38AM ON AND WE HAD TO READ IT IN THE PAPER.
10:14:40AM WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA WHO ARE INTERESTED AND
10:14:43AM WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO BE THE BEST IT CAN BE ALTHOUGH WE HAVE
10:14:46AM BEEN CHARACTERIZED AS BEING ANGRY, MAD, CONFUSED.
10:14:50AM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WANT.
10:14:52AM YES, WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED, BUT THE CITY THINKS THEY KNOW
10:14:56AM WHAT THEY THINK WE NEED.
10:14:57AM AS A COMMUNITY WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS
10:15:00AM WHEN YOU KNEW IT WAS IN FORECLOSURE.
10:15:02AM WOODLAND CEMETERY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR COMMUNITY TO
10:15:05AM GET ENGAGED.
10:15:06AM WE DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
10:15:08AM WE TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE CRA MEETING OF BUYING ANOTHER
10:15:12AM WROUGHT IRON FENCE.
10:15:13AM BUT IF THIS WAS GOING ON, I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE THE
10:15:16AM COMMUNITY WAS NEVER TOLD.
10:15:19AM A LACK OF COMMUNICATION.
10:15:21AM AND WE WANT TO SOLVE PROBLEMS.
10:15:23AM BUT HOW CAN WE WHEN WE ARE NOT ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS.
10:15:27AM COMMUNITY.
10:15:28AM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA THAT WANT TO WORK WITH THE
10:15:30AM CITY OF TAMPA TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY THE BEST IT CAN BE.
10:15:33AM I KNOW THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE THAT COME DOWN HERE WHO ARE
10:15:36AM DISGRUNTLED, BUT PLEASE DO NOT STIGMATIZE US WITH THAT.
10:15:41AM BECAUSE WE ARE NOT ALL THAT WAY.
10:15:43AM I LIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
10:15:44AM I OWN A HOME IN EAST TAMPA.
10:15:47AM AND I HAVE NO INTENTION OF MOVING AND I WANT MY COMMUNITY TO
10:15:50AM BE THE BEST IT CAN BE.
10:15:51AM IT IS CHANGING.
10:15:52AM WE ALL KNOW THAT.
10:15:53AM LET'S BE FAIR AND TREAT EAST TAMPA LIKE YOU ARE TREATING ALL
10:15:57AM THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:15:58AM KEEP US ABREAST WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:16:00AM LET US GET ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS.
10:16:02AM WE TRULY WANT TO MAKE IT A BETTER COMMUNITY.
10:16:04AM SHOW US THAT.
10:16:05AM A SAD WAY TO START OFF BLACK HISTORY MONTH FOR THE EAST
10:16:09AM TAMPA COMMUNITY IN MY OPINION.
10:16:10AM TO HAVE A FLIPPER DISRESPECT OUR CEMETERY.
10:16:13AM AND I KNOW YOU GUYS WILL MAKE IT RIGHT.
10:16:15AM I CAN SEE THAT BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR
10:16:19AM COMMUNITY AT HAND.
10:16:20AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME THIS MORNING.
10:16:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:16:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
10:16:27AM I UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS.
10:16:31AM THE -- I -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS.
10:16:35AM I HEARD 20,000.
10:16:37AM I HEARD 5200.
10:16:38AM A LOT OF IMPORTANT PEOPLE.
10:16:39AM YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS.
10:16:41AM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT ARE BURIED THERE.
10:16:44AM I DON'T KNOW WHO THE WINNING BIDDER IS.
10:16:46AM THE CITY WAS OUTBID BECAUSE IT WAS -- THEY PUT A NUMBER IN.
10:16:50AM SOMEONE OUTBID IT.
10:16:52AM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS UNTIL THE FINAL OUTCOME.
10:16:55AM I AM TRYING TO BE VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE I KNOW THERE WAS
10:16:58AM LITIGATION INVOLVED.
10:16:59AM BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY.
10:17:01AM BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS RIGHT.
10:17:03AM I DON'T KNOW WHO THE WINNING BIDDER IS, HOUSE FLIPPER,
10:17:07AM BLANK.
10:17:07AM I DON'T KNOW WHO THE PERSON IS, BUT THIS IS A HISTORIC
10:17:10AM CEMETERY WITH THOUSANDS OF IMPORTANT INDIVIDUALS.
10:17:15AM WE HAVE TO MAKE IT RIGHT.
10:17:16AM I MEAN, WHAT BENEFIT TO -- I KNOW A GENTLEMAN CAME UP
10:17:24AM EARLIER.
10:17:25AM IS EVERY PIECE OF LAND DEVELOPED.
10:17:27AM GREED AND MONEY.
10:17:28AM I AM NOT CALLING OUT ANYBODY OR SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE,
10:17:31AM BUT NO WAY WE CAN ALLOW THIS TO BE ANYTHING BUT A CEMETERY
10:17:35AM AND IT HAS TO BE PROTECTED.
10:17:37AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NOW BECAUSE THIS -- AS IT CAME OUT
10:17:40AM IN THE NEWS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR PATHWAY IS, BUT, I MEAN,
10:17:44AM COME ON.
10:17:45AM THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO PROTECT THIS.
10:17:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:17:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:17:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
10:17:53AM MISS TRAVIS --
10:17:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RECOGNIZING COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN MISS
10:18:01AM TRAVIS.
10:18:01AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:18:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS CITY
10:18:10AM COUNCIL FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS HAS -- HAS DEMANDED THAT
10:18:13AM CEMETERY BE PROTECTED.
10:18:15AM WE DON'T -- I ALSO SAID WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER ZION TO HAPPEN
10:18:20AM AGAIN.
10:18:20AM FIRST I KNEW ABOUT THIS WHEN I READ IT IN THE NEWSPAPER
10:18:24AM ALSO.
10:18:24AM NOBODY TOLD ME.
10:18:25AM NO ONE IN THE COUNCIL WAS INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS, TO MY
10:18:30AM AMONG.
10:18:30AM RECENTLY WE PASSED A SPECIAL ZONING CODE TO PROTECT
10:18:33AM CEMETERIES.
10:18:34AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS IN THIS CASE, BUT SOMEHOW THE
10:18:37AM ADMINISTRATION WENT THROUGH A PROCESS THAT ENDED WITH THIS
10:18:39AM RESULT.
10:18:40AM AND PART OF CITY COUNCIL'S PURPOSE IS TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT
10:18:47AM FOR MISTAKES THAT AN ADMINISTRATION MAKES.
10:18:49AM SO I AM GOING TO BE LOOKING INTO THIS AMONG OTHER THINGS TO
10:18:53AM TRY TO MAKE SURE THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
10:18:56AM THANK YOU.
10:18:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS TRAVIS.
10:18:58AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:19:02AM ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
10:19:05AM I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS.
10:19:07AM AND I HOPE THE DEVELOPER -- OR THE NOW NEW PROPERTY OWNER IS
10:19:12AM LISTENING TO THE COMMENTS AND THE DESIRES OF THE COMMUNITY
10:19:15AM TO PROTECT THIS AFRICAN-AMERICAN CEMETERY.
10:19:18AM WE HOLD IT IN HIGH REGARD.
10:19:20AM THIS WAS A LIEN -- A CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION PROCESS THAT
10:19:26AM HAPPENED THAT GOES INTO A BLIND BID.
10:19:28AM I WOULD ADVICE YOU ADVISE YOU TO PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS
10:19:34AM ON THIS.
10:19:34AM WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS, AND I AM ASKING YOU TO PLEASE
10:19:37AM RESPECTFULLY LIMIT YOUR CONVERSATION ON THIS RIGHT NOW,
10:19:40AM PLEASE.
10:19:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED AND
10:19:45AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:19:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO SAY I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS
10:19:48AM FOR A WHILE AND I HAVEN'T -- JUST FOR THE RECORD FOR THE
10:19:51AM PUBLIC WHY I HAVEN'T -- NUMBER OF PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT ALSO I
10:19:56AM HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THAT -- THAT ISSUE.
10:19:58AM I HAVE BEEN WORK ON THIS FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
10:20:01AM I FEEL VERY PASSIONATE AND REFRAIN REMARKS FOR ANY LEGAL
10:20:06AM ISSUES.
10:20:07AM TRUST ME, I WILL SAY I GOT YOUR BACK AND WE ALL HAVE YOUR
10:20:10AM BACK 110% AND THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS YOUR PASS BACK.
10:20:15AM THANK YOU.
10:20:15AM GOD BLESS YOU.
10:20:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:20:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANTED MISS TRAVIS COULD TOMORROW UP.
10:20:22AM TO LIMIT THE CONVERSATION.
10:20:23AM STAFF HAS THE MESSAGE ALREADY LOUD AND CLEAR.
10:20:25AM WE JUST NEED TO HOLD BACK AND LET THEM DO WHAT THEY NEED TO
10:20:28AM DO NOW.
10:20:29AM I HAD MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM.
10:20:31AM AND THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
10:20:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:20:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:20:36AM WE ABSOLUTELY -- WHEN WE CAN, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS IN A
10:20:42AM LEGAL POSITION RIGHT NOW, BUT WHEN WE CAN, WE ARE GOING TO
10:20:45AM HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THIS AND HOW WE GOT HERE.
10:20:47AM I UNDER -- I MEAN -- WE HAD CONVERSATIONS BUT I AM JUST
10:20:55AM SAYING AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS HOW THIS DOES NOT
10:20:59AM HAPPEN AGAIN.
10:20:59AM THAT IS AS SPECIFIC AS I WILL GET.
10:21:02AM >> MAY I JUST SAY ONE THING BEFORE I WALK AWAY.
10:21:05AM THIS IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH, AND I DON'T WANT TO THINK THAT
10:21:09AM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ERASING BLACK HISTORY, BUT I
10:21:13AM ATTENDED DOBYVILLE SCHOOL.
10:21:17AM AN I GO THERE FROM TIME TO TIME TO SEE THE LITTLE PLACARD ON
10:21:20AM THE ROAD BECAUSE IT WAS FORGOTTEN.
10:21:22AM I I WAS COMPELLED TO COME TO TALK ABOUT THIS CEMETERY
10:21:25AM BECAUSE I LIVED SOME BLACK HISTORY BEING RAISED IN THE CITY
10:21:28AM OF TAMPA.
10:21:28AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:21:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:21:30AM MISS TRAVIS, YOU WERE APPROACHING THE PODIUM.
10:21:34AM IS THERE SOMETHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
10:21:36AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NO, I AM GOING TO LET MY COLLEAGUE HERE
10:21:40AM ADMINISTRATOR WYNN TALK TO YOU.
10:21:44AM >>OCEA WYNN: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
10:21:45AM OCEA WYNN, DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
10:21:50AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL IN 2020, WE HAD THE CEMETERY TASK
10:21:55AM FORCE WHEN A NUMBER OF UNNAMED, UNMARKED CEMETERIES WERE
10:21:58AM BEING UNCOVERED.
10:21:59AM AND I CAME BEFORE YOU AND SHARED WITH YOU A PROCESS THAT WE
10:22:04AM WOULD HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THOSE ISSUES COME, THAT WE
10:22:08AM WILL LOOK AT THEM INTERNALLY TO SEE WHAT OWNERSHIP THE CITY
10:22:12AM HAS AND WHAT OWNERSHIP THE PUBLIC HAS AND HOW WE CAN
10:22:15AM NAVIGATE THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
10:22:16AM IN ADDITION TO THAT, MEMORIAL CEMETERY WAS ONE OF THOSE
10:22:21AM CEMETERIES THAT, IF YOU RECALL, THE PREVIOUS OWNER WAS -- I
10:22:25AM THINK THE PREVIOUS OWNER -- I DON'T KNOW HIS NAME TOO DIED
10:22:29AM -- AND THE PART WENT IN THE HANDS OF FAMILY MEMBERS AND IT
10:22:33AM WAS IN DISREPAIR.
10:22:34AM WHAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO DO EVEN THOUGH THE CITY DID NOT OWN
10:22:37AM THAT CEMETERY IS THAT WE CONTINUED OR WE TOOK OVER THE
10:22:45AM MAINTENANCE AND CONTINUED WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT
10:22:48AM CEMETERY.
10:22:49AM I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE THAT
10:22:54AM THE -- WHAT IS DONE RIGHT BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENTERED
10:22:57AM THERE WAS DONE RIGHT BY THE COMMUNITY.
10:22:59AM AND DOING THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO
10:23:02AM DO.
10:23:02AM SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU TO LET YOU KNOW THAT
10:23:06AM EVEN THOUGH WE DID NOT OWN THE CEMETERY, WE DID EXPEND OUR
10:23:10AM INTERNAL RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MAINTENANCE WAS
10:23:14AM DONE ON -- ON THE PROPERTY.
10:23:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:23:22AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:23:27AM STEVE MICHELINI.
10:23:28AM I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 16.
10:23:30AM AND I AM THE CO-CHAIR OF THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION,
10:23:36AM GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
10:23:37AM AND FIRST, LET ME -- WE ARE HERE BECAUSE THE ACCELA PROGRAM
10:23:52AM IS CAUSED A GREAT DEAL OF CONCERN AMONG EVERYONE WHO USES
10:23:56AM THAT.
10:23:57AM IT IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF THE CITY SYSTEM.
10:23:59AM AND WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH CITY STAFF, AND WE HAVE ALSO
10:24:04AM MET WITH THE ACCELA REPRESENTATIVE REGARDING THESE ISSUES.
10:24:08AM BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS INVESTED
10:24:12AM SOMEWHERE BETWEEN $15 MILLION AND 20 MILLION IN A SYSTEM
10:24:15AM THAT IS PAID FOR BY THE USERS.
10:24:17AM SO ANYONE WHO IS APPLYING FOR ANY -- ANY PROCESS IN THE CITY
10:24:23AM PAYS FOR THAT SERVICE.
10:24:24AM ACCELA WAS THE BEST SYSTEM THAT WAS AVAILABLE AT THE TIME.
10:24:30AM AND IT PROBABLY STILL REMAINS THE BEST SYSTEM AVAILABLE
10:24:34AM WITHIN OUR REGION.
10:24:35AM THE PROBLEM IS, IT HAVEN'T KEPT UP WITH THE TIMES.
10:24:39AM THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION WAS AN EARLY ADVOCATE.
10:24:44AM AND TAMPA WAS PROBABLY THE BETA OF ALL OF THE ACCELA SYSTEM
10:24:52AM THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
10:24:53AM WHAT HAPPENED WAS, AS THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS THE
10:24:56AM OTHER AREAS AROUND US GOT THE IMPROVEMENTS AND TAMPA DIDN'T.
10:25:04AM WE ARE ASKING THAT ACCELA COMMIT THE MANPOWER AND RESOURCES
10:25:09AM TO CORRECT THESE DEFICIENCIES.
10:25:11AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO ACCELA WITH
10:25:16AM PERMITTING, LICENSES, OR FILING FOR AN APPLICATION OF ANY
10:25:20AM KIND, IF YOU PUT IN ONE NAME AND ONE ADDRESS AND YOU GET 20
10:25:24AM ADDRESSES THAT COME UP.
10:25:25AM AND THEY ARE CO-MINGLED WITH THINGS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO
10:25:29AM WITH YOUR PROJECT, IT'S CONFUSING.
10:25:33AM WHEN INSPECTORS CAN'T PUT IN INSPECTIONS THAT ARE NECESSARY
10:25:37AM TO COMPLETE PROJECTS AND THEY HAVE TO DO IT MANUALLY, THAT
10:25:41AM IS A PROBLEM.
10:25:41AM THE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING THE WAY IT SHOULD BE THEY ARE
10:25:46AM PUTTING PATCHES IN.
10:25:50AM THE PLATFORM HAS TOO MANY PATCHES.
10:25:54AM THEY SWITCHED FROM INDIVIDUAL SERVERS TO THE CLOUD, IT
10:25:57AM CREATED ANOTHER WHOLE SET OF PROBLEMS.
10:25:59AM CHAIRMAN, CAN I HAVE ANOTHER MINUTE, PLEASE?
10:26:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 30 SECONDS.
10:26:04AM >> THE ISSUE IS, WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY.
10:26:07AM PAID FOR BY THE USERS AND ACCELA NEEDS TO COMMIT THE
10:26:11AM RESOURCES TO FIX IT.
10:26:12AM I WILL BE HERE WHEN THE STAFF MAKES THEIR PRESENTATION.
10:26:15AM AND I WILL HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT
10:26:19AM HAVE; HOWEVER, THE SYSTEM IS PATCHED.
10:26:20AM IT IS NOT FIXED.
10:26:21AM AND COMMITMENT TO GET THAT REPAIRED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
10:26:29AM AS IT GOES ON, EVEN RESIDENTS CAN'T PROPERLY ACCESS THE
10:26:32AM SYSTEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:26:34AM THANK YOU.
10:26:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:26:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:26:45AM THE CONSTRUCTION UNIONS REPRESENTING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT
10:26:48AM TRADES AND CRAFTS.
10:26:51AM RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:26:52AM YOU HEARD FROM THREE APPRENTICES TODAY.
10:26:55AM TWO OF THOSE WERE -- WORK FOR GMF AND COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU
10:27:02AM ASKED FOR THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION TO GIVE A FOLLOW-UP.
10:27:06AM I NOTICED THEY GAVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION TO THE CITY.
10:27:08AM SO WHAT CAN BE HELPFUL FOR YOU AS YOU MAKE A TRUE APPLES TO
10:27:12AM APPLES COMPARISON IS TO RECOGNIZE THAT THOSE WORKERS FOR GMF
10:27:16AM -- APPRENTICES FOR GMF PERFORM THE IDENTICAL WORK FOR APREN
10:27:22AM IS IRON WORKERS 397.
10:27:24AM I WILL HAVE THE IRON WORKERS 397 PROVIDE TO YOU THEIR WAGE
10:27:30AM SCALE AND BENEFIT PACKAGE TO MAKE A TRUE APPLES TO APPLES
10:27:36AM COMPARISON OF WORKERS PERFORMING THE SAME WORK.
10:27:38AM IT WAS STATED BY THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM GMF THAT THOSE
10:27:41AM WORKERS RECEIVE FULL BENEFITS.
10:27:44AM THAT WAS THE STATEMENT WAS MADE.
10:27:46AM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BENEFITS BEING OFFERED AND BENEFITS BEING
10:27:49AM PROVIDED.
10:27:50AM AS YOU CONDUCT YOUR FOLLOW-UP, IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO SEE
10:27:55AM OF THOSE WORKER, FOR INSTANCE, IF HEALTH INSURANCE IS A
10:27:58AM BENEFIT THEY ARE OFFERED AND IF THEIR HEALTH CARE PREMIUMS
10:28:01AM ARE DEDUCTED FROM THEIR PAYCHECK OR FULL BENEFITS PROVIDED,
10:28:05AM PAID FOR BY THE COMPANY.
10:28:06AM THAT WILL BE ONE.
10:28:07AM AND ALSO WORN TO NOTE IF THOSE TWO GMF APPRENTICES EARN THE
10:28:13AM SAME HOURLY WAGE OR MERIT BASED.
10:28:15AM IF THEY ARE PAID IN INDIVIDUAL WAGE DIFFERENT THAN EACH
10:28:19AM OTHER FOR PERFORMING THE SAME WORK.
10:28:21AM THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
10:28:23AM YOU WILL MAKE A TRUE APPLES-TO-APPLES COMPARISON BETWEEN THE
10:28:27AM WAGE OF THE GMF AND UNION, LOCAL 397 APPRENTICES SO YOU
10:28:33AM CAN SEE WHOSE WAGES AND WHOSE BENEFIT PACKAGE IS BETTER.
10:28:37AM BUT I THINK WE ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
10:28:39AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:28:42AM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO GIVE PUBLIC
10:28:47AM COMMENT?
10:28:53AM BEFORE I GO TO ONLINE.
10:28:55AM MISS SHARP, I MAKE A REQUEST THAT YOU SHARE ALL THE
10:28:58AM INFORMATION THAT YOU COLLECTED WITH THE REST OF THE
10:29:00AM COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:29:00AM PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
10:29:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS RECOGNIZED.
10:29:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: RECOGNIZE MY AIDE KELLY SHARP FOR SITTING
10:29:15AM HERE TAKING NOTES.
10:29:15AM I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH.
10:29:17AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:29:18AM SO THANK YOU.
10:29:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. DEANGELO, ARE YOU ONLINE?
10:29:31AM >> I AM.
10:29:31AM DANIEL DEANGELO, BORN AND RAISED IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
10:29:36AM WE ARE TALKING A LOT OF THE ERASING OF HISTORY AND
10:29:39AM INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT WHAT GOVERNOR DeSANTIS IS DOING WITH
10:29:43AM BLACK HISTORY, GAY, QUEER AND TRANS HISTORY, ANY HISTORY HE
10:29:49AM DOESN'T LIKE WHICH IS KNOWN AS THE TRUTH.
10:29:51AM I GREW UP IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL I WAS
10:29:57AM AN ADULT THAT WAS A BUSTLING BLACK COMMUNITY UNTIL I-275 WAS
10:30:02AM CREATED AND DESTROY THAT AREA.
10:30:04AM WHY WOULD WE WANT HISTORY HIDDEN.
10:30:08AM WE KEEP THINGS HIDDEN THAT WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW.
10:30:11AM AND TAMPA DOESN'T WANT TO ANNOUNCE ITS PART IN INSTITUTION
10:30:16AM OF SLAVERY, JIM CROW, MASS INCARCERATION WHICH IS STILL
10:30:19AM GOING ON TODAY.
10:30:20AM WE NEED TO PROTECT THESE CEMETERIES AND WE NEED TO DO WAY
10:30:23AM MORE THAN THAT.
10:30:25AM WE NEED TO DO MORE THAN PROCLAMATIONS FOR BLACK HERITAGE
10:30:28AM MONTH AND ANY OTHER HERITAGE MONTH AND DO THINGS THAT IMPACT
10:30:35AM LIVES.
10:30:35AM CRB CONVERSATION IS RIDICULOUS.
10:30:38AM WHY ON EARTH WILL THEY BE AFRAID OF AN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY.
10:30:42AM THE POLICE ARE ALWAYS SAYING IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE,
10:30:45AM YOU HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
10:30:46AM WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO HIDE?
10:30:49AM WHAT DOES THE POLICE UNION AND MAYOR CASTOR SO AFRAID OF?
10:30:53AM WE KNOW THE ANSWER.
10:30:53AM WE RECEIVED ARTICLE A AFTER ARTICLE AFTER ARTICLE OF
10:30:57AM CORRUPTION.
10:30:57AM HOW MANY MORE CORRUPT ACTS HAVE TO BE CONDUCTED?
10:31:02AM HOW MANY WRONG ACTS.
10:31:03AM YOU DON'T HAVE JUSTICE FOR JUSTIN WESTSCOTT.
10:31:07AM ARTHUR GREEN'S FAMILY WENT THROUGH HILL.
10:31:10AM DOMINIQUE MALKE NEEDED FOOD.
10:31:14AM NOT BULLETS.
10:31:16AM THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
10:31:17AM Y'ALL CRIED AND BOO-HOO DURING THE 2020 PROTESTS, ITS GOING
10:31:24AM TO BE THE SAME THING WHEN YOU DO THE SAME THING OVER AND
10:31:27AM OVER.
10:31:27AM AN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY IS A SMALL ASK.
10:31:30AM NOT RADICAL.
10:31:31AM NOT SERIOUS REFORM.
10:31:32AM IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT MUCH, I GUARANTEE YOU YOU WILL HAVE
10:31:36AM MORE AND MORE AND MORE APPROXIMATE IN THIS CITY WITH TPD.
10:31:39AM STOP BEING AFRAID OF TPD.
10:31:42AM STOP BEING AFRAID OF THE MAYOR.
10:31:44AM DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF YOU.
10:31:46AM SHE CARES OF HER POLITICAL CAREER.
10:31:49AM THIS MAYOR WILL WIN THIS ELECTION UNFORTUNATELY.
10:31:51AM WILL BE A MAYOR FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS AND GO AWAY AND TOO I
10:31:55AM TO BE GOVERNOR OR WHATEVER SHE WANTS TO DO.
10:31:57AM DON'T BE AFRAID OF HER.
10:32:00AM BECAUSE YOU NEED TO BE AFRAID OF US, THE PEOPLE.
10:32:03AM ALSO I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT DEVELOPERS ALWAYS GET EXTRA
10:32:06AM TIME IN THEIR PUBLIC COMMENTS BUT OFTENTIMES PEOPLE IN THE
10:32:10AM COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS ISSUES THAT Y'ALL DON'T
10:32:12AM LIKE ABOUT THE POLICE DON'T, AND THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
10:32:15AM DEVELOPERS DON'T RUN THIS CITY.
10:32:17AM WE THE PEOPLE DO OR AT LEAST WE SHOULD.
10:32:19AM THANKS.
10:32:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:32:21AM MISS CULTHREM.
10:32:25AM ARE YOU ONLINE?
10:32:27AM >>CLERK: SHE IS NOT ONLINE.
10:32:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
10:32:32AM TO PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:32:37AM CHIEF BENNETT CHIEF, WE JUST HAD A -- A WONDERFUL
10:32:51AM CELEBRATION LAST SATURDAY THAT INVOLVED 300,000 PEOPLE IN
10:32:54AM OUR CITY.
10:32:54AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE A REPORT ON THAT, PLEASE.
10:32:57AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WOULD BE HAPPY TO.
10:32:58AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:33:01AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:33:02AM GOOD MORNING, PUBLIC.
10:33:04AM SO AS EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS OUR DAY PARADE PIRATE FEST
10:33:08AM HAPPENED LAST FRIDAY EVENING INTO SATURDAY AND INTO SATURDAY
10:33:12AM EVENING.
10:33:12AM I THINK IT IS WORTH RECOGNIZING FOR A COUPLE OF SECONDS PART
10:33:19AM OF TAMPA'S HISTORY SINCE 1904.
10:33:21AM SO NEXT YEAR WOULD BE THE 120th CELEBRATION OF THAT EVENT.
10:33:26AM SO IN THAT REGARD, YOU KNOW, THANKING THE LEADERSHIP
10:33:31AM INVOLVED WITH THE CREW.
10:33:34AM EVENT FEST HAS BEEN SUPPORTING THAT EVENT WITH THE CITY AND
10:33:38AM WITH THE PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR 30 YEARS.
10:33:40AM THE SUCCESS OF LEADERSHIP ON COUNCIL, AND, OF COURSE,
10:33:44AM SUPPORTING THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE WORKFORCE I THINK IS
10:33:48AM ALL SOMETHING TO BE RECOGNIZED TO BRING 300,000 FOLKS
10:33:51AM TOGETHER AND CELEBRATE ON THE WATER AND LAND.
10:33:54AM OF COURSE, THE CITY DEPARTMENTS NEED TO BE RECOGNIZED.
10:33:58AM PUBLIC SAFETY GROUPS.
10:34:00AM FIRE POLICE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
10:34:03AM A FULL EOC WAS RUN WITH ALL THE SUPPORT FUNCTIONS WITH THE
10:34:07AM OPERATIONAL PERIOD.
10:34:08AM OF COURSE PARKS AND REC THAT NOT ONLY WORKED THE EVENT BUT
10:34:13AM DO THE PLANNING FOR THE EVENT.
10:34:15AM AND, OF COURSE, OUR MOBILITY TEAM, OUR SOLID WASTE TEAM.
10:34:19AM ALL THE SOLID WASTE SUPPORT TO MAKE THE EVENT HAPPEN.
10:34:22AM GET THE ROADS OPEN.
10:34:23AM I HAD I COMMAND THAT EVENT FOR MANY YEARS IN THE EARLY 2000S
10:34:29AM AFTER 9/11.
10:34:32AM AND GETTING THE ROADS OPEN FOR THE AMALIE EVENT AND STRAZ.
10:34:37AM ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT AND CHOREOGRAPHING OF
10:34:40AM THINGS CITYWIDE OF THIS LARGE EVENT.
10:34:43AM A LOT OF RESPECT FOR THE TEAMS.
10:34:45AM I KNOW THAT OVER 40 TONS OF SOLID WASTE WAS PICKED UP BY
10:34:49AM THREE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS OVERNIGHT.
10:34:51AM AND THE THING I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN MOST IMPRESSED ABOUT IS
10:34:56AM COULD SEE IT AT 6 P.M. ON SATURDAY, BY THE TIME EVERYBODY
10:34:59AM GOES BACK TO WORK ON MONDAY IT IS LIKE ALMOST BACK TO ITS
10:35:03AM PRISTINE SHAPE.
10:35:04AM LASTLY, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THE 30 LOCAL,
10:35:07AM STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES, ESPECIALLY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT,
10:35:10AM THAT SERVE ON THE WATER AND THE LAND BUT HIGHLIGHTING THE
10:35:14AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND SHERIFF
10:35:19AM CHAD CRONISTER ARE HIGHLIGHTING THE FLORIDA HIGHWAY PATROL
10:35:22AM THAT WORKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE EVENT ROUTE.
10:35:24AM AND THE BALANCE OF THE 30 AGENCIES AT THE LOCAL, STATE AND
10:35:28AM FEDERAL LEVELS HAVE BEEN PARTNERS IN HOMELAND SECURITY AND
10:35:32AM DEFENSE SINCE 9/11 AND THEY ALL COME HERE OF THE REGION TO
10:35:36AM SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY ON THE LAND AND WATER FOR THIS
10:35:39AM OPERATIONAL PERIOD.
10:35:40AM I APPRECIATE THE FACT FOR TO GO I HAVE A QUICK AFTER-ACTION.
10:35:46AM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THE TEXT MESSAGING BETWEEN THE
10:35:52AM CITY AND THE PUBLIC WERE MADE AVAILABLE SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN
10:35:55AM LEARN FROM FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THE DEPARTMENTS
10:35:57AM AND DO IT BETTER FOR THE 120th CELEBRATION NEXT YEAR.
10:36:01AM THANK YOU.
10:36:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, CHIEF.
10:36:03AM ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:36:04AM I WILL SAY THAT --
10:36:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ASK A SEPARATE QUESTION.
10:36:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE YOU.
10:36:12AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:36:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. BENNETT, I WANT TO ASK YOU SOMETHING
10:36:20AM SEPARATE.
10:36:20AM OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THE
10:36:25AM WATER DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE PURE PROJECT.
10:36:27AM AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THE PURE PROJECT AS -- AS STATED BY
10:36:32AM THE WATER DEPARTMENT IS -- IS DEAD OR NOT MOVING FORWARD.
10:36:36AM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WE HAD AN ITEM THAT STILL HAD THE PURE
10:36:39AM NAME ON IT, BUT THE DEPARTMENT ASSURED US THAT PURE IS NOT
10:36:42AM GOING FORWARD.
10:36:43AM IT HAPPENED TO HAVE THAT NAME ON IT STILL.
10:36:45AM AND EVEN THE -- THE DEPARTMENT PUSHED BACK AND SAID WE DON'T
10:36:48AM WANT TO PUT THE NAME ON IT BECAUSE THE PROJECT DOESN'T EXIST
10:36:51AM ANYMORE.
10:36:52AM BUT THREE DAYS AGO, THE MAYOR CREATED A VIDEO THAT TALKED
10:36:56AM ABOUT THE PURE PROJECT AND ADVOCATED FOR THE PURE PROJECT.
10:37:04AM I KNOW IT IS NOT YOUR DEPARTMENT BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN -- I
10:37:08AM GET A LOT OF CONFUSED CALL THAT THOUGHT PURE WAS DEAD AND
10:37:13AM SOME OTHER PROCESS TO ANALYZE OBJECTIVELY THE ALTERNATIVES.
10:37:17AM BUT WITH THE MAYOR'S VIDEO CAUSING CONCERN AND CONFUSION IN
10:37:20AM THE COMMUNITY, THANK YOU.
10:37:21AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK IT WILL BE BEST HANDLED BY THE
10:37:25AM DEPARTMENT, BUT BASED ON WHAT I KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE HAVE
10:37:28AM DISCUSSED IN THE CHAIRMAN PERCENT AND, OF COURSE, WORKING
10:37:30AM WITH STAFF IS AND WAS CONVEYED FROM WHAT I WATCHED FROM THE
10:37:35AM DEPARTMENTS THAT PURE AS A PROJECT IS NOT MOVING FORWARD,
10:37:38AM BUT THE ELEMENTS THAT SUPPORT WATER REUSE ARE CONTINUING TO
10:37:41AM BE EXPLORED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A
10:37:45AM SUSTAINABLE WATER SUPPLY, SUSTAINABLE ENVIRONMENT AT THE
10:37:49AM BEST COST, AT THE HIGHEST QUALITY.
10:37:52AM SO I THINK THE IDEA OF WATER REUSE IS STILL GOING ON.
10:37:55AM BUT PURE AS A PROJECT HAVEN'T BEEN DISCUSSED GOING FORWARD.
10:37:59AM kt CARLSON THANK YOU.
10:38:03AM AND I WILL ADDRESS THE STATEMENTS MADE IN THERE WHEN WE TALK
10:38:06AM TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
10:38:07AM THANK YOU.
10:38:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, GETTING BACK TO YOUR REPORT ON
10:38:14AM GASPARILLA.
10:38:15AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE DEPARTMENTS THAT MADE GASPARILLA A
10:38:18AM SAFE PARADE.
10:38:19AM OUR FIRE.
10:38:20AM OUR POLICE, OUR PARAMEDICS.
10:38:22AM OUR MOBILITY.
10:38:24AM PARKS AND RECREATION.
10:38:26AM WASTEWATER.
10:38:35AM OUR PUBLIC AND SISTERS IN SOLID WASTE.
10:38:38AM THE WORK THEY DID IN FIVE, SIX HOURS CLEANING UP ALL THE
10:38:42AM TRASH AND DEBRIS ALONG BAYSHORE AND DOWNTOWN AND OPENING UP
10:38:46AM OUR ROADS, TO ME, THAT IS -- THAT IS A ONE OF THE SEVEN
10:38:52AM WONDERS OF THE WORLD TO GET IT DONE THAT QUICKLY.
10:38:55AM I THANK SOLID WASTE AND ALL OF TAMPA'S FAMILIES, ALL OF THE
10:38:59AM DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE WORKED TO MAKE OUR PARADE THE THIRD
10:39:04AM LARGEST PARADE IN THE COUNTRY.
10:39:06AM SECOND ONLY TO -- THIRD TO ONLY MACY'S THANKSGIVING AND ROSE
10:39:10AM BOWL.
10:39:10AM A HUGE AND GIANT SUCCESS.
10:39:13AM THANK YOU TO TAMPA CITY FAMILY.
10:39:18AM >>JOHN BENNETT: CHAIRMAN, JUST BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THEM
10:39:21AM ARE HERE AND REPRESENTED.
10:39:23AM WHEN I LOOKED AT THE DATA BEHIND THE WORK, PARKS AND REC AND
10:39:29AM THE MOBILITY TEAM AS WELL AS SOLID WASTE CARRIED 50 TONS OF
10:39:35AM LEFTOVER SOLID WASTE TOGETHER.
10:39:37AM IT REALLY IS A COMBINED TEAM SUPPORT AND PARKS AND REC AND
10:39:41AM SOLID WASTE AND MOBILITY.
10:39:42AM THE SWEEPERS WERE OUT THERE DOING MILES AND MILES OF STREET
10:39:46AM SWEEPING.
10:39:47AM A GREAT EFFORT.
10:39:48AM THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THEM.
10:39:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU AGAIN FOR A GREAT JOB.
10:39:53AM WELL-DONE.
10:39:53AM ALL RIGHT.
10:39:54AM MISS TRAVIS.
10:40:01AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING AGAIN, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC
10:40:05AM DEVELOPMENT AND OPPORTUNITY.
10:40:06AM WHAT I HAVE BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING WITH THE RESOLUTION
10:40:08AM SUPPORTING THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO CONTRACT OF SALE OF
10:40:11AM PURCHASE OF PART FROM THE TAMPA PORT AUTHORITY.
10:40:16AM THIS WAS THE DECISION TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY WAS MADE AT
10:40:19AM THE CRA -- AS A CRA ENTITY, AS A BOARD, AND IT WAS CODIFIED
10:40:26AM AS THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:40:27AM WHAT I AM ASKING FOR TODAY IS AN EXTENSION TO THAT CONTRACT
10:40:31AM FOR 180 DAYS.
10:40:33AM I AM GOING TO PUT AN IMAGE UP ON THE ELMO.
10:40:37AM THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
10:40:39AM THERE IS AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
10:40:47AM THE PERSON PURCHASING THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IS INTERESTED IN
10:40:52AM DOING A SMALL LAND SWAP WITH US AND ALLOW THE ADJACENT
10:40:56AM PROPERTY OWNER TO SQUARE OFF THEIR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
10:40:58AM FOR US TO SQUARE OFF OUR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
10:41:01AM IN RED, IS THE PROPERTY THAT WE ARE -- THE BLUE IS -- WE
10:41:07AM HAVEN'T CLOSED ON THE PROPERTY YET, BUT THE BLUE IS WHAT IS
10:41:10AM IN THIS CONTRACT SALE.
10:41:11AM AND WE ARE TRYING TO SWAP THAT FOR THE RED.
10:41:14AM WE WILL ULTIMATELY END UP WITH MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE AT NO
10:41:19AM ADDITIONAL COST.
10:41:19AM THIS IS A LOW-RISK DECISION JUST TO EXTEND THE CONTRACT.
10:41:25AM I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE CAC DID VOTE FOR US TO CLOSE
10:41:30AM WITHOUT DOING THIS LAND SWAP, BUT IF WE WERE TO DO THAT AND
10:41:34AM WANTED TO DO THE LAND SWAP LATER, WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH
10:41:37AM A RFP PROCESS.
10:41:39AM ANY DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE IN YOU'LLCRA DISTRICT
10:41:44AM IS REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH A RFP PROCESS.
10:41:47AM ALLOW US TO HAVE A SIMULTANEOUS CLOSING.
10:41:50AM IT IS LOW RISK.
10:41:51AM I AM ASKING FOR FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION OF 180 DAYS
10:41:56AM EXTENSION TO IT THE CONTRACT, PLEASE.
10:41:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:41:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:42:00AM COULD YOU LEAVE THAT UP?
10:42:02AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SURE.
10:42:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU POINT OUT THE PROPERTY UNDER
10:42:07AM CONTRACT?
10:42:10AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: HOLD ON --
10:42:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE I AM LOST.
10:42:14AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: TO THE RIGHT.
10:42:18AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
10:42:27AM I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT -- I BELIEVE THE
10:42:41AM PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT BASICALLY EXTENDS DOWN HERE AND SO
10:42:47AM -- BUT I THINK WHAT THE TRADE-OFF IS, THERE IS A TAIL OF
10:42:54AM PROPERTY THAT IS REALLY UNUSABLE THAT GOES UP NEAR THE
10:42:57AM BUILDINGS.
10:42:57AM THE TAIL GIVING US PROPERTY ON THE SIDE THAT WILL INCREASE
10:43:02AM AND SQUARE OFF THE PIECE.
10:43:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:43:04AM I THOUGHT SO AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WHERE THAT PROPERTY
10:43:07AM WAS.
10:43:07AM THANK YOU.
10:43:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:43:13AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T HAVE IS A PROBLEM BUT THE CACS ARE
10:43:17AM INFORMED OF WHY THE HOLD UP IS AND THE PARAMETERS OF WHICH
10:43:21AM YOU ARE TRYING TO OBTAIN.
10:43:23AM YOU DON'T WANT TO GET IN A LEGAL DECISION SO THEY KNOW
10:43:27AM VERSUS WHY IT IS BEING DONE NOW SO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY YOU
10:43:31AM ARE DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
10:43:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:43:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ASKING FOR 180 DAYS.
10:43:40AM >> ASKING FOR 180 DAYS EXTENSION TO THE CONTRACT.
10:43:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
10:43:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LIKE SIX MONTHS.
10:43:49AM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:43:51AM >> SECOND.
10:43:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:43:54AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:43:55AM ALL IN FAVOR.
10:43:56AM ANY OPPOSITION?
10:43:58AM MOTION PASSES.
10:44:00AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I APPRECIATE IT.
10:44:01AM THANK YOU.
10:44:02AM DID YOU HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM, MISS TRAVIS?
10:44:19AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I HAVE THE ONE WALK-ON ITEM.
10:44:22AM I COME BACK WITH YOU WITH NUMBER 14.
10:44:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:44:27AM NOW GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NUMBER F 23-79602.
10:44:35AM >>KELLY AUSTIN: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, KELLY AUSTIN, DIRECTOR
10:44:48AM DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES AND TALENT DEVELOPMENT.
10:44:50AM I AM JOINED BY BENEFITS MANAGER TONY HAGLER.
10:44:53AM AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MEMO COMMITTED
10:44:56AM FOR NUMBER 4, RFP FOR OUR REALLINESS WITH CareATC AS THE
10:45:06AM PARTICIPANTS AND WE ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON THAT CONTRACT.
10:45:08AM A THREE-YEAR CONTRACT WITH TWO ONE-YEAR RENEWALS.
10:45:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:45:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:45:15AM JUST FOR THE CLARITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND.
10:45:17AM WELLNESS CENTER CAN BE ANYTHING AND MORE ELABORATE WHERE
10:45:22AM THEY ARE OUT, WHAT THEY DO FOR THE.PUBLIC AND YOUR OVERALL
10:45:25AM INSURANCE COST.
10:45:26AM >> THANK YOU.
10:45:27AM THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
10:45:29AM TWO WELLNESS CENTERS.
10:45:30AM ONE ON HIMES AVENUE WHICH IS THE LARGER OF THE TWO.
10:45:33AM ONE CURRENTLY IN BRANDON.
10:45:34AM THOSE WELLNESS CENTERS ARE AVAILABLE TO ALL CITY OF TAMPA
10:45:38AM EMPLOYEES.
10:45:38AM THEY ARE ALSO USED BY QUALIFIED DEPENDENTS.
10:45:45AM EVEN THOUGH THE UNIONS ARE ON THE HEALTH CARE TRUST, THEY
10:45:48AM HAVE ACCESS TO THE HEALTH CARE CENTER.
10:45:51AM DRUGS ARE AVAILABLE AT NO COST IF PRESCRIBED THROUGH THE
10:45:57AM WELLNESS CENTERS.
10:45:59AM NO CO-PAY IF YOU USE THE WELLNESS CENTER.
10:46:01AM A RETURN OF $2.20 TO EVERY DOLLAR SPENT AS AN INVESTMENT ON
10:46:06AM THESE WELLNESS CENTERS.
10:46:08AM THEY HAVE OPINION IN EXCEPTION SINCE 2011.
10:46:10AM THOSE PEOPLE THAT DON'T TYPICALLY GO TO THE DOCTOR TEND TO
10:46:16AM USE THE WELLNESS CENTER BECAUSE OF THE CONVENIENCE AND THE
10:46:19AM NO COST.
10:46:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVEN THOUGH THE GENERAL PUBLIC IS NOT
10:46:22AM GOING THERE, THEY ARE BENEFITTING FROM THE COST BECAUSE
10:46:24AM LOWERS THE INSURANCE COST OVERALL.
10:46:28AM >>THE OVERALL COST, THAT IS CORRECT STATEMENT.
10:46:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REMEMBERED THAT A LONG TIME AGO WHEN
10:46:34AM SOMEBODY STARTED THAT.
10:46:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:46:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS ISSUE ON TUESDAY.
10:46:39AM YOU ALSO MENTION THE FACT THAT HANNA CITY CENTER WILL HAVE A
10:46:45AM THIRD LOCATION.
10:46:46AM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
10:46:46AM THERE WILL BE BE A SATELLITE OFFICE AT THE HANNA LOCATION.
10:46:49AM CURRENTLY IT IS EARMARKED TO HAVE ONE POSITION AND TWO
10:46:53AM MEDICAL ASSISTANTS, SO NOT A BIG LARGE FULL-BLOWN.
10:46:56AM BUT IT WILL BE A SUBSTANTIAL PIECE OF OFFICE SPACE THAT WILL
10:47:01AM BE ABLE TO BE USED PRIMARILY BY THE EMPLOYEES THAT WORK AT
10:47:04AM THAT LOCATION.
10:47:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:47:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR THE -- FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC
10:47:11AM INTEREST, WOULD YOU MIND JUST BRIEFLY DESCRIBING THE RFP
10:47:15AM PROCESS.
10:47:15AM HOW THIS FIRM RANKED COMPARED TO THE OTHERS AND HOW THEY
10:47:19AM WERE SELECTED?
10:47:22AM >> SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
10:47:23AM I WAS NOT ON THE COMMITTEE.
10:47:24AM MY MANAGER WAS ON THE COMMITTEE ALONG WITH OTHER MEMBERS
10:47:27AM FROM THE CITY STAFF.
10:47:29AM EIGHT PROPOSERS THAT SUBMITTED TO BE CONSIDERED FOR A
10:47:33AM WELLNESS CENTER CONTRACT WITH THE AT THIS.
10:47:35AM SCARE ATC DID SCORE THE HIGHEST AND THE CITY RECOMMENDED.
10:47:43AM THERE WERE NO PROTESTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RFP.
10:47:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:47:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR BRINGING
10:47:51AM UP THE WELLNESS CENTER OF THE NEW HANNA STREET.
10:47:54AM WE WILL HAVE FIVE DEPARTMENTS WITH 500 PEOPLE.
10:47:56AM WHEN THIS CONCEPT CAME TO US, THAT WAS THE FIRST REQUEST I
10:48:00AM MADE TO HAVE A WELLNESS CENTER.
10:48:02AM WHY SHOULD WE HAVE ALL OF THOSE EMPLOYEES IN ONE PLACE JUST
10:48:04AM TO GO TO A DOCTOR'S VISIT OR A RUNNY NOSE OR SOMETHING.
10:48:08AM THANK YOU.
10:48:10AM THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
10:48:13AM WE HAVE A RESOLUTION.
10:48:14AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:48:15AM >> I AM SORRY?
10:48:22AM IN 2011.
10:48:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:48:25AM >> SECOND.
10:48:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:48:28AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:48:29AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
10:48:31AM ALL IN FAVOR -- EXCUSE ME, ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:48:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:48:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:48:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:48:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:48:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:48:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:48:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:48:44AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:48:46AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:48:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE NUMBER PW
10:48:58AM 23-793583.
10:48:59AM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:49:04AM LARRY WASHINGTON, DIRECTOR OF SOLID WASTE AND PROGRAM
10:49:08AM MANAGEMENT.
10:49:09AM YOU CAN SEE MY FULL FACE.
10:49:10AM I SUBMITTED A MEMO WITH REGARDS TO THE APPROVAL FOR A
10:49:13AM PURCHASE OF EIGHT CNG SIDEWINDER SIDE-LOADER TRUCKS AND
10:49:22AM TOTAL IS $3.8 MILLION.
10:49:24AM THE NUMBER WAS SUBMITTED EARLIER TWO WEEKS PRIOR.
10:49:28AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MEMO OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE
10:49:32AM PROCESS AND THE VEHICLES THEMSELVES.
10:49:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:49:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS UNITS.
10:49:41AM >> YES, SIR.
10:49:42AM REPLACEMENT OF VEHICLES AS WELL.
10:49:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:49:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, AGAIN.
10:49:50AM THIS IS WELL NEEDED FOR EXPERIENCE OF THE CITY.
10:49:53AM NATURAL GAS ENGINES AND BETTER FOR THE AIR QUALITY ALONG
10:49:58AM WITH THE AUTOMATIC LOADERS AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
10:50:02AM THE PEOPLE FROM MR. SIMON'S UNIT.
10:50:05AM THEY WANT -- WITHOUT THEM THE CITY OF TAMPA WOULDN'T RUN.
10:50:09AM THIS IS A REASON WE ARE BUYING THESE THINGS AND MAKE SURE
10:50:11AM THAT THE PUBLIC GETS THE BEST SERVICE POSSIBLE THE UNIT
10:50:17AM PRICES ARE HALF A MILLION A UNIT.
10:50:19AM TO SEE EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY AND THE GARBAGE RATE IS
10:50:24AM COMMENSURATE WITH THAT AND $30 A MONTH AND PICK IT UP TWICE
10:50:32AM A WEEK.
10:50:32AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU TO AND WE APPRECIATE THE
10:50:35AM PUBLIC -- SOMETIMES THEY GET A LITTLE UPSET WHEN GASPARILLA
10:50:39AM COMES AROUND AND AN HOUR LATE PICKING UP THEIR GARBAGE.
10:50:43AM WE LOVE YOU, ALL OF YOU, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU TO DO THE
10:50:45AM COMMUNITY.
10:50:46AM THE COMMUNITY REALLY LIKES WHAT YOU DO.
10:50:48AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
10:50:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:50:50AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:50:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
10:50:55AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS?
10:50:58AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:50:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:51:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:51:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:51:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:51:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:51:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:51:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:51:06AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:51:08AM >> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
10:51:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:10AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NUMBER CM 22-78961.
10:51:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:51:24AM I AM RUTH KATE WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:51:27AM I AM THE MAJOR OF DISTRICT ONE.
10:51:29AM I'M HERE TO TALK ON AGENDA ITEM 6 AND 7, SO I WILL START
10:51:33AM WITH 6 FIRST.
10:51:34AM THIS AGENDA ITEM IS SPECIFICALLY ASKING THE TAMPA POLICE
10:51:38AM DEPARTMENT TO DISCUSS THE CONCERNS ABOUT CRIME ALONG MAIN
10:51:41AM STREET, SPECIFICALLY THE SECTION FROM ARMENIA TO ROME.
10:51:45AM THIS PORTION IS PART OF THE WEST TAMPA CRA DISTRICT.
10:51:50AM AS WE ALL KNOW, DECEMBER 4, 2022, THERE WAS A SHOOTING AT
10:51:55AM 1914 WEST MAIN STREET.
10:51:56AM A FEMALE AT A LOCAL BUSINESS.
10:51:59AM AND A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE WERE INVOLVED IN A DISPUTE,
10:52:02AM WHICH RESULTED IN THE SHOOTING.
10:52:04AM THIS SMALL GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE THERE, THEY WERE
10:52:10AM PATRONIZING THE BUSINESS.
10:52:11AM A SIDEWALK CAFE AND THEY WERE THERE FOR THAT TO CONSUME FOOD
10:52:15AM AND DRINK WHEN THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED.
10:52:16AM IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT A SELECT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, BAD BE
10:52:22AM RESULTED IN THIS WOMAN'S DEATH, BUT I WILL AT THE YOU THAT
10:52:25AM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ALREADY MADE ONE ARREST IN
10:52:28AM RELATION TO THIS INCIDENT.
10:52:29AM THIS INVESTIGATION IS STILL OPEN.
10:52:33AM SO I AM NOT ABLE TO GO FURTHER DETAIL IN THE INVESTIGATION,
10:52:36AM BUT THERE IS MORE FORTHCOMING.
10:52:38AM SO I EXPECT YOU TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
10:52:42AM MAIN STREET IS THE HEART OF WEST TAMPA THE CITY AND THE CRA
10:52:48AM ARE ACTIVELY SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY AND ITS
10:52:51AM REVITALIZATION.
10:52:52AM AND THE INCREASE IN BUSINESSES RESTAURANTS, EVENT VENUES AND
10:52:58AM AFFORDABLE HOUSE THE AREA.
10:52:59AM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ACTIVE IN THE WEST TAMPA CRA
10:53:04AM ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
10:53:04AM I SAT IN MEETINGS WITH SEVERAL COUNCILMEMBERS WHO ARE HERE
10:53:08AM TODAY.
10:53:08AM WE ATTEND ALL MONTHLY MEETINGS AND ACCEPTED THE INVITATION
10:53:12AM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CRA'S PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE AND
10:53:17AM WE WILL BE SITTING IN ON THAT.
10:53:18AM ENTIRE YEAR OF 2021, THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT ONLY
10:53:23AM RECEIVED EIGHT CALLS OF SERVICE IN THIS SPECIFIC AREA
10:53:28AM RELATED TO SHOTS FIRED.
10:53:29AM I WENT THROUGH THE EIGHT CALLS.
10:53:32AM OF THOSE EIGHT, TWO WERE ACTUALLY FIREWORKS.
10:53:35AM OFFICERS RESPONDED TO FOUR CALLS AND REPORTS OF SHOTS FIRED.
10:53:40AM THEY SEARCHED THE AREA DIDN'T FIND ANY DAMAGE OR BULLET
10:53:44AM CASINGS.
10:53:45AM ONE CALL THAT RESULT IN PROPERTY DAMAGE TO A HOME.
10:53:47AM NO INJURIES AND ONE CALL, FEBRUARY 5, 2021, WHERE PROPERTY
10:53:54AM DAMAGE WAS SUSTAINED TO TWO BUSINESSES AND ONE PERSON WAS
10:53:59AM SHOT IN THE LEG.
10:54:00AM FAST FORWARD TO 2022, WE HAD SIX CALLS FOR SERVICE.
10:54:04AM SO OUR CALLING WERE ALREADY GOING DOWN.
10:54:06AM TWO CALLS WERE ACTUALLY FIREWORKS.
10:54:08AM ONE WHERE THE OFFICERS RESPONDED THEY DID NOT SEE ANYTHING
10:54:12AM AND NO CASINGS FOUND.
10:54:13AM AND ONE CALL WHERE A CITIZEN HEARD GUNSHOTS.
10:54:17AM WE GOT MULTIPLE CALLS FROM SOME CITIZENS SAYING THERE WERE
10:54:23AM GUNSHOTS.
10:54:23AM THE OFFICERS DILIGENTLY SEARCHED THE AREA AND FIND ANYTHING.
10:54:28AM ANOTHER CALL WHERE A CITIZEN OBSERVED SOMEONE DISCHARGE
10:54:32AM FIREARM.
10:54:32AM ARE, WHEN THE OFFICERS ARRIVED, THEY DID NOT LOCATE THE
10:54:36AM INDIVIDUAL.
10:54:37AM AND ONE CASE ON DECEMBER 4 THAT RESULTED IN THE HOMICIDE OF
10:54:40AM THE YOUNG LADY.
10:54:42AM FORTUNATELY SINCE DECEMBER 4, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY CALLS
10:54:46AM OF SERVICE RELATED TO SHOTS FIRED ALONG THE MAIN STREET
10:54:49AM CORRIDOR.
10:54:49AM WE HAD NONE THIS YEAR.
10:54:51AM THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT ONE SHOOTING IS ONE TOO MANY.
10:54:54AM ANY TIME THERE IS A REPORT OF SHOTS FIRED, THE OFFICERS
10:54:58AM RESPOND IN A PRIORITY MODE.
10:55:00AM WHAT ARE WE DOING AS AN AGENCY TO COMBAT CRIME ALONG THE
10:55:05AM MAIN STREET AREA?
10:55:06AM THE CITY IS COMMITTED TO IMPROVING NATURAL SURVEILLANCE
10:55:10AM AROUND THE BUSINESSES AND PUBLIC PROPERTY TO DETER ANY
10:55:14AM CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.
10:55:15AM EXAMPLES ARE THE LED LIGHTING THAT IS GOING ALONG MAIN
10:55:20AM STREET.
10:55:20AM A PROJECT THAT HAS GOING ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
10:55:24AM CLEANING UP THE DEBRIS AND OVERGROWTH IN THE ALLEYWAYS ALONG
10:55:28AM MAIN STREET.
10:55:29AM WE ALL HAVE THE DUTY TO CARE FOR THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE
10:55:31AM CITY.
10:55:32AM AND WE PARTNERED WITH THE OTHER CITY ENTITIES SUCH AS
10:55:36AM NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT TEAM, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND
10:55:39AM MOBILITY.
10:55:39AM WE ARE WORKING ON CHANGING THE HABITS OF CITIZENS IN THE
10:55:43AM COMMUNITY FOR THE BETTER.
10:55:44AM A POSTING OF SEENAGE IN AREA FOR THE SALCINES PARK WHICH IS
10:55:50AM ABOUT TO UNDERGO A BIG RENOVATION.
10:55:53AM WE ARE SUPPORTING THE CRA IN THEIR PURCHASE OF THE PARCEL
10:56:00AM FORMALLY KNOWN AS FREEDOM PARK.
10:56:02AM THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TURNED OVER TO THE CITY BUT MUCH MORE WORK
10:56:06AM WHICH I AM OUR COUNCIL IS AWARE OF.
10:56:08AM FOR THESE PROJECTS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PARTNERED WITH
10:56:12AM PARKS AND REC FOR THE PARKS.
10:56:13AM THECRA ADDED EXTRA CAMERAS ALONG MAIN STREET, A TOOL THAT
10:56:19AM CAN BE USED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN NEEDED.
10:56:22AM ALL OF THESE MEASURES HAVE HELPED TO ASSIST THE TAMPA POLICE
10:56:25AM DEPARTMENT AND PREVENT AND HELP SOLVING CRIMES WHEN THEY
10:56:29AM OCCUR.
10:56:29AM I AM EXCITED TO SAY THAT THIS WEEKEND OUR NEW DEPLOYMENT
10:56:33AM STARTS AND HOW WILL THAT EFFECT THE MAIN STREET AND WEST
10:56:36AM TAMPA AREA.
10:56:37AM PREVIOUSLY THE THREE -- THE MAJORS AND THE CHIEFS, WE GO
10:56:42AM TOGETHER AND DO STRATEGY AND SAY WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR AND
10:56:50AM WHAT CAN WE DO NEXT YEAR.
10:56:53AM ADDITIONAL SQUAD.
10:56:54AM WE HAVE A PLAINSCLOTHES SQUAD THAT WORKS TUESDAY THROUGH
10:56:57AM FRIDAY.
10:56:57AM THEY CAN ADJUST HOURS WHEN NEEDED.
10:57:00AM BUT TWO PLAIN CLOTHES SQUAD'S WORK THE DAY SHIFT THERE SEVEN
10:57:06AM DAYS A WEEK.
10:57:06AM TARGETING THE AREA YOU MAY NOT SEE THE OFFICERS BECAUSE THEY
10:57:20AM ARE UNDERCOVER AND IN ADDITION TO THE TOOLS I JUST TALKED
10:57:23AM ABOUT AND HELP SOLVES THE CRIMES IN THE AREA.
10:57:31AM WE WANT CITIZENS TO REPORT CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR.
10:57:33AM WE HAVE A BUNCH OF NEW WAYS THAT ARE REACHING OUT TO THIS
10:57:37AM YOUNGER GENERATION.
10:57:37AM TIP 411.
10:57:40AM TIP 411 WHERE PEOPLE CAN TEXT THE CRIME TO US BECAUSE I KNOW
10:57:44AM SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO CALL US ON THE PHONE.
10:57:47AM THEY WANT TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS.
10:57:50AM WE ENCOURAGE ANYBODY SEEING ANYTHING IN THE WEST TAMPA AREA
10:57:53AM TO PLEASE CALL US.
10:57:54AM THE OFFICERS WILL COME.
10:57:56AM WE WILL RESPOND.
10:57:57AM BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WE WILL BE OUT THERE PROACTIVELY
10:58:00AM PATROLLING AND YOU SHOULD SEE AN ENHANCEMENT OF OFFICERS IN
10:58:03AM THE NEAR FUTURE.
10:58:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FIRST.
10:58:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY FOR THAT INPUT.
10:58:10AM I KNOW THAT SPECIFIC CASE WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT BECAUSE IT IS
10:58:14AM OPEN AND ACTIVE; HOWEVER, I AM MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY
10:58:16AM THIS WEEK.
10:58:16AM A 1:00 MEETING.
10:58:18AM I DON'T KNOW IF TPD WILL BE THERE.
10:58:22AM THEY CONTACTED ME DIRECTLY.
10:58:25AM YOU SAID IT.
10:58:27AM ONE SHOOTING IS ONE TOO MANY.
10:58:28AM SO MANY PEOPLE ARE WORKING TOGETHER FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE
10:58:31AM TO REVITALIZE THAT AREA THAT THAT USED TO BE -- HISTORIC
10:58:35AM DOWNTOWN WEST TAMPA A VIBRANT COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
10:58:39AM AND WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS.
10:58:40AM SALCINES PARK, FREEDOM PARK, LITTLE BY LITTLE, BUT, HOWEVER,
10:58:49AM I AM HAPPY THAT YOU -- YOU MENTION THAT A NEW SQUAD WILL BE
10:58:51AM ASSIGNED TO COVER THAT AREA.
10:58:54AM PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
10:58:56AM WE NEVER SEE A POLICE CAR.
10:58:58AM WE NEVER SEE A POLICE CAR.
10:58:59AM YOU STATED YOU HAVE PLAIN CLOTHES OFFICERS WORKING THERE
10:59:03AM THAT THEY MAY NOT SEE THE UNIVERSITY.
10:59:05AM DOESN'T MEAN THAT POLICE DOESN'T HAVE A PRESENCE.
10:59:07AM AND I THINK -- I NEVER UNDERSTOOD THE GUN VIOLENCE AND THE
10:59:13AM SHOOTINGS, WHY PEOPLE RESORT TO THAT.
10:59:15AM THIS ISN'T PROHIBITION.
10:59:17AM THIS ISN'T THE WILD WEST.
10:59:18AM SHOOTING PEOPLE IN THE STREETS.
10:59:19AM WHY PEOPLE AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE GUN.
10:59:28AM WHAT DO THEY PROVE?
10:59:29AM DES DETROIT THEIR LIFE AND SOMEONE ELSE'S LIFE AND HURTING
10:59:33AM THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
10:59:34AM SOME OWNERS WHO INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY
10:59:40AM NOT FOR PROFIT BUT THEY BELIEVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:59:43AM THEY CAN GO ANYWHERE ELSE.
10:59:44AM A LOT OF THEM ARE VERY WEALTHY AND THEY CAN TAKE THEIR
10:59:48AM BUSINESS ELSEWHERE, BUT THEY BELIEVE IN WEST TAMPA WITHOUT
10:59:53AM PARTNERSHIPS AND TPD AND THE CHANGES YOU ARE MAKING AND
10:59:56AM IMPROVING THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, WE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE IN
10:59:59AM THE SAME POSITION.
10:59:59AM WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE RECENT MURDER WAS HORRIBLE.
11:00:09AM FOR WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN THE NEWS.
11:00:11AM WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT.
11:00:13AM BUT LIVES HAVE BEEN RUINED.
11:00:15AM WHATEVER THE REASON WAS.
11:00:16AM TALKING TO BUSINESS OWNERS.
11:00:17AM ESPECIALLY ON MAIN STREET.
11:00:18AM ONE SHUT DOWN THE PUBLIC PART OF THEIR BUSINESS.
11:00:21AM TASTING ROOM OR RETAIL SIDE BECAUSE OF -- OF SHOOTINGS.
11:00:25AM A NEIGHBORING BUSINESS -- HOW MANY TIMES HAS HE CONTACTED ME
11:00:30AM WITH PHOTOS OF BULLET HOLES IN THE WINDOWS.
11:00:33AM THIS IS OVER SEVERAL YEARS, BUT THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE
11:00:36AM FRUSTRATED.
11:00:37AM AGAIN, THEY CAN BACK UP AND LEAVE AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
11:00:40AM THESE BUSINESS OWNER BUT THEY DON'T BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN
11:00:45AM WEST TAMPA.
11:00:45AM WE HAVE TO WORK BETTER TOGETHER.
11:00:47AM I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING HARD.
11:00:49AM I KNOW YOU ARE THERE.
11:00:49AM AND I APPRECIATE THIS REPORT, BUT I HOPE THAT WE CAN PUT AN
11:00:53AM END TO THIS.
11:00:54AM THESE UNNECESSARY SHOOTINGS, THIS VIOLENCE.
11:00:57AM WE ARE NOT GOING TO ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE COMING THERE.
11:01:00AM IT IS SO BUSY.
11:01:02AM PEOPLE COME FROM THE INTERSTATE.
11:01:04AM FIRST THING YOU SEE MAIN STREET AND HOWARD.
11:01:07AM MAIN STREET AND ALBANY.
11:01:08AM ALL THE GROWTH.
11:01:09AM AMATEUR WORKS ON THE SORE SIDE, WHY JULIAN LANE PARK, ALL
11:01:13AM THE HOUSING CLOSER TO MAIN BOULEVARD.
11:01:15AM BUT HAS TO QUICK TRICKLING DOWN THIS WAY.
11:01:18AM A RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS, BUT WE HAVE TO BE EQUITABLE.
11:01:22AM SO WE GET RID OF THIS NONSENSE AND THIS VIOLENCE.
11:01:25AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:01:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:01:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, I DON'T CARE HOW MANY POLICE YOU PUT
11:01:32AM DOWN THERE, THAT AIN'T THE PROBLEM.
11:01:35AM SEE CRIME AND ELEMENTS OF CRIME COME WHERE YOU HAVE BLIGHT
11:01:41AM AND SLUM.
11:01:42AM I MET WITH THE CRA MANAGER.
11:01:48AM I HAVE MET WITH THE FOLKS ON WEST TAMPA I WENT TO SEVERAL
11:01:53AM MEETINGS.
11:01:53AM AND I INSTRUCTED THE MANAGER AND -- AND I HAVE TALKED TO
11:01:58AM MISS TRAVIS ABOUT THAT AND MR. DRUMGO.
11:02:02AM WE NEED TO START BUYING UP THE PROPERTY ON MAIN STREET.
11:02:05AM ONCE YOU CAN CONTROL PROPERTY, YOU CAN CONTROL YOUR
11:02:08AM ELEMENTS.
11:02:09AM ONCE YOU BUY PROPERTY, YOU CAN CONTROL THE ELEMENT.
11:02:12AM AND THE CRA HAS TO START BEING IN THE BUSINESS OF REAL
11:02:16AM ESTATE TO BUY UP THOSE PROPERTIES ON MAIN STREET TO GET SOME
11:02:19AM OF THOSE BUILDINGS THAT ARE DILAPIDATED THAT ARE FALLING
11:02:23AM DOWN THAT ATTRACT THOSE BAD ELEMENTS LIKE THE PARK.
11:02:28AM THE OTHER PARK TO THE WEST.
11:02:30AM ONE TO THE EAST.
11:02:31AM FIX THE PLACES UP AND THOSE FOLKS WON'T COME.
11:02:36AM HAVING THE POLICE THERE IS GOOD.
11:02:38AM WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE CAMERA SYSTEM NOT WORKING.
11:02:41AM WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THAT BECAUSE
11:02:45AM THE CRA PURCHASED THEM.
11:02:46AM SO WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THOSE CAMERAS WERE DOWN.
11:02:51AM IF THERE IS AN INTERNET PROCESS THAT IS WRONG, THE CRA HAS
11:02:56AM MONEY TO FIX THOSE THINGS.
11:02:57AM TO ME, THERE WAS NO EXCUSE FOR IT NOT TO IT BE WORKING IF
11:03:00AM SOMETHING HAPPENED ON A TOWER OR SOMETHING WAS CHANGED, WE
11:03:04AM WEREN'T NOTIFIED.
11:03:05AM THINGS DO HAPPEN.
11:03:06AM BUT I AM GLAD WE ARE TRYING TO FIX THAT PROBLEM.
11:03:09AM I BELIEVE WE ARE FIXING THAT ISSUE WITH THE MONITORING OF
11:03:12AM THE CAMERAS, RIGHT, RUTH, IS THAT CORRECT?
11:03:15AM >> ALL THE CAMERAS ARE CURRENTLY WORKING.
11:03:17AM ONE CAMERA THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED -- WELL, AT LEAST
11:03:20AM FIXED.
11:03:20AM IT WAS DAMAGED.
11:03:21AM THERE WAS -- IT WAS MOUNTEDED ON A ELECTRICAL POLE THAT WAS
11:03:26AM REMOVED AND A NEW POLE WAS PUT IN THE PLACE AND THE VENDOR
11:03:29AM ACTUALLY TOOK THE CAMERA WITH HIM UNBEKNOWNST TO US.
11:03:33AM NOW THE CAMERA IS BACK.
11:03:35AM BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, WE ALL KNOW THAT SINCE COVID, ELECTRICAL
11:03:39AM PARTS ARE VERY HARD TO GET A HOLD OF.
11:03:41AM SO WE ARE WAITING FOR THE PARTS TO FIX THAT CAMERA.
11:03:44AM OTHER THAN THAT, ALL OF THE CAMERAS ALONG THE MAIN STREET
11:03:48AM CORRIDOR ARE WORKING.
11:03:49AM THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT OCCASIONALLY THERE MIGHT BE A HICCUP
11:03:53AM BECAUSE MOST OF THEM DO RUN ON CELLULAR SERVICE.
11:03:56AM AND YOU WON'T GET ALL FOUR BARS ON YOUR CELL PHONE -- I AM
11:04:01AM SURE EVERYBODY HAS THEM ON SOME DAYS.
11:04:02AM BUT MOST OF THE TIME, THEY ARE ALWAYS WORKING.
11:04:05AM BUT THEY ARE ALL IN GOOD WORKING ORDER NOW.
11:04:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK NOW THAT WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT ARE
11:04:13AM COMING.
11:04:13AM I ALWAYS TALK OF THE IMPLEMENTATION.
11:04:16AM I THINK NOW MISS TRAVIS AND HER TEAM WILL START IMPLEMENTING
11:04:20AM SOME OF THESE PROCESSES, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
11:04:23AM GETTING THESE PROPERTIES BOUGHT LOOKING AT REAL DEVELOPMENTS
11:04:30AM IN THIS COMMUNITY ERADICATE THE ISSUES.
11:04:33AM THE BAD PEOPLE WILL MOVE AWAY.
11:04:38AM THEY KNOW THOSE OWNER WILL SPEAK UP AND POUNDING THE PAYMENT
11:04:43AM SAYING THESE ARE OUR BUSINESSES.
11:04:45AM WE ARE NOT GOING TO TOLERATE IT.
11:04:46AM GET MORE DOLLARS SPENT IN WEST TAMPA IN THAT CORRIDOR.
11:04:50AM I BELIEVE WE WILL SOLVE A LOT OF THIS PROBLEM.
11:04:52AM SOMETIMES YOU HAVE THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
11:04:55AM THINGS DO HAPPEN.
11:04:56AM AND YOU CAN'T CONTROL CRIMES OF PASSION.
11:04:58AM YOU CAN'T CONTROL THINGS -- THE POLICE COULD BE THERE AND GO
11:05:02AM DOWN THE STREET TO ANOTHER CALL AND THINGS HAPPEN AND WE
11:05:08AM HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT.
11:05:09AM I AM GLAD WE ARE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS AND MAKE A FEW
11:05:13AM CHANGES TO MAKE THINGS BETTER AND I THINK THE POLICE
11:05:16AM DEPARTMENT WORKING WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, WITH
11:05:17AM THE CRA AND -- AND MISS TRAVIS AND HER TEAM, I THINK WE WILL
11:05:23AM TRY TO MOVE THE NEEDLE A LITTLE BIT.
11:05:24AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
11:05:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:05:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:05:31AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT AND ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO.
11:05:34AM I WANTED TO BRING UP TWO THINGS.
11:05:36AM FIRST WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WITH THE
11:05:39AM APPRENTICESHIP.
11:05:40AM I LOOK AT CRIME IN THE COMMUNITIES.
11:05:42AM A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO FIGHT CRIME TO GIVE PEOPLE HOPE
11:05:48AM THAT THERE ARE BETTER LIFE THAN SOME OF THE BAD THINGS ON
11:05:51AM THE STREETS.
11:05:52AM WITH THIS APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, YOU TAKE A YOUNG PERSON
11:05:55AM GRADUATING FROM KING, JEFFERSON, MIDDLETON, JEFFERSON,
11:06:00AM WHATEVER HIGH SCHOOL THAT YOU SEE.
11:06:01AM YOU SHOW THEM A REAL FUTURE AND GIVE PEOPLE HOPE THAT YOU
11:06:04AM WILL BE DEALING WITH THINGS LIKE PREVENTING CRIME.
11:06:06AM AND THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
11:06:07AM THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER ISSUE TO THIS THAT COUNCILMAN
11:06:10AM MANISCALCO HAD BROUGHT UP AS WELL WHICH IS THE BUSINESSES
11:06:13AM AND THE EFFECT THAT CRIME HAS ON A CITY'S LIVABILITY.
11:06:17AM AND -- AND HOW A NUMBER OF CITIES -- I DON'T BELIEVE TAMPA
11:06:22AM DID THIS AND WHEN -- WHEN I SAY THIS, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT
11:06:25AM ANYONE ON CITY COUNCIL.
11:06:26AM I KNOW WE ARE ON AN ELECTION SEASON OR IF ANYTHING OF THAT
11:06:30AM NATURE, A LOT OF CITIES.
11:06:31AM I WILL SAY THIS.
11:06:32AM I WENT WITH MY SON ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO WE WENT TO PORTLAND.
11:06:36AM PORTLAND OREGON.
11:06:38AM A BEAUTIFUL STATE.
11:06:39AM OREGON IS A BEAUTIFUL AMAZING STATE.
11:06:42AM GOD'S COUNTRY OUT THERE.
11:06:43AM YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN PORTLAND RECENTLY.
11:06:46AM I WAS THERE IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, THEY HAD ABOUT 800
11:06:50AM SHOOTINGS AT THAT TIME.
11:06:51AM IN 2022, PORTLAND WOULD GO ON TO HAVE WELL OVER 1,000.
11:06:55AM 1200 SHOOTINGS, 1200 HOMICIDES WITHIN PORTLAND.
11:07:02AM ONE WHERE THEY ATTACKED AND DISOWNED THEIR POLICE.
11:07:05AM GUESS WHAT HAPPENS -- YOU KNOW AND I AM NOT PREACHING TO THE
11:07:08AM CHOIR HERE, I KNOW -- AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU ATTACK
11:07:12AM BUSINESSES.
11:07:13AM ATTACK LIVABLEABILITY.
11:07:15AM YOU ATTACK FAMILIES BECAUSE PEOPLE IN ALL OF OUR MAJOR
11:07:19AM AMERICANS CITIES WANT US TO SUPPORT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
11:07:22AM SUPPORT OUR POLICE AND GIVE OUR POLICE THE TOOLS AND
11:07:24AM EQUIPMENT THEY NEED TO SUCCEED.
11:07:25AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT LESSON
11:07:29AM WE HAVE SEEN FROM MANY CITIES, MINNEAPOLIS, PORTLAND, ETC.,
11:07:33AM ETC., WE WERE IN OREGON TO VISIT THE LAST BLOCKBUSTER ON
11:07:38AM EARTH.
11:07:38AM YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT UP.
11:07:39AM WE HAD A GREAT TIME.
11:07:40AM A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL STATE.
11:07:42AM WE STAYED IN PORTLAND AND WHATNOT.
11:07:46AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE ISSUE OF CRIME AND THE REACTION OF SOME
11:07:50AM CITIES SUBMIT DID NOT -- NO ONE ON THIS COUNCIL BY INFERENCE
11:07:56AM I AM SAYING DIRECTLY DID.
11:07:57AM IT IS ELECTION TIME.
11:07:58AM THAT REACTION TO UNDERMINES PUBLIC SAFETY AND UNDER
11:08:02AM MINES FAMILIES AND UNDERMINES SOME MUCH OUR MOST VULNERABLE
11:08:07AM COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE TO LIVE IN THAT.
11:08:08AM AND UNDERMINE THE BUSINESS AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
11:08:10AM THANK GOD WE HAVEN'T GONE TO THAT EXTREME IN TAMPA.
11:08:14AM AND WE NEVER, EVER SHOULD.
11:08:16AM I THINK THAT ALL PARTS OF OUR CITY, EAST TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA,
11:08:21AM WEST TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA SUPPORT THAT IDEA AND I KNOW OUR
11:08:26AM CITY COUNCIL DOES AND OUR MAYOR DOES, ETC.
11:08:29AM WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO FIGHT TO AFFIRM THAT IDEA.
11:08:31AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:08:32AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:08:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:08:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID
11:08:37AM AND YOUR DIRECT MANNER HIM.
11:08:39AM YOU SEE THE COPS YOU RUN AWAY.
11:08:42AM THINK EVERYTHING IS FINE.
11:08:44AM WHEN YOU ARE UNDERCOVER, NO SPOTTERS TO CALL IN.
11:08:47AM NO CELL PHONE.
11:08:49AM NOW YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH YOURSELF WITH YOUR OWN ENTITY
11:08:52AM AND WAY OF DOING BUSINESS ILLEGALLY.
11:08:54AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT AREA YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, IT REALLY
11:08:57AM TURNED THE CORNER, FOR THE BETTER, I MEAN.
11:09:01AM YOU LOOK AT THE BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STREET ON HOWARD AND
11:09:05AM MAIN ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER, THERE IS A NEW BUILDING REALLY
11:09:09AM THAT THE INDIVIDUAL REDONE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HUNDREDS
11:09:12AM OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BECAUSE TWO BUSINESSES THERE NOW.
11:09:15AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF HOWARD AND MAIN,
11:09:20AM THE OLD BANK BUILDING.
11:09:21AM IF YOU WANT A GOOD TACO, GO THERE.
11:09:24AM BECAUSE THEY ARE MADE IN FRONT OF YOU.
11:09:26AM VERY DELICIOUS.
11:09:27AM I HAVE BEEN THERE.
11:09:28AM YOU GO NORTH ON HOWARD ABOUT A BLOCK, BLOCK AND A HALF, ON
11:09:32AM THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, A NEW CUBAN -- I SAY -- IT SAYS CUBAN
11:09:36AM FOOD.
11:09:37AM I WILL SAY EXACTLY WHAT THE SIZE SAYS AND EVEN TELLS YOU THE
11:09:40AM PRICE.
11:09:41AM I HAVEN'T BEEN THERE YET, BUT I AM GOING TO TRY IT.
11:09:44AM THE BUSINESSES ARE CHANGING AND ATMOSPHERE IS CHANGING.
11:09:49AM MORE AND MORE INDIVIDUALS ON THE CEASE SIDE OF MAIN STREET
11:09:54AM TO N. BOULEVARD, YOU WILL SEE A COMPLETE CHANGE.
11:09:56AM BECAUSE PEOPLE BRING THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE NOT -- FOR
11:10:00AM RIGHT THINGS IN LIFE LIKE SHOOTING A GUN OR SOMETHING, THEY
11:10:03AM WILL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE BECAUSE THEY ARE SPOTTED TOO EASILY.
11:10:06AM THE CHANCES OF CATCHING IS 100% BETTER WHEN
11:10:10AM VACANT LAND AND I AM CONCERNED A LITTLE BIT OF THE BLOCK OF
11:10:18AM HOWARD AND MAIN.
11:10:19AM A SMALL BLOCK.
11:10:20AM BEHIND THERE THERE IS A BIG PARKING LOT.
11:10:22AM I HAVE BEEN THERE ONCE JUST DRIVING BY AND I SAW SOMETHING I
11:10:26AM DIDN'T LIKE AND I REPORTED IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED,
11:10:28AM BUT THAT IS ONE AREA, A PARKING LOT THAT SOMETIMES YOU SEE
11:10:32AM SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY.
11:10:33AM LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY.
11:10:35AM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING, WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
11:10:38AM IS DOING IN PROACTIVELY TRYING TO STOP SOMETHING.
11:10:45AM THAT IS WHAT POLICE WORK CRIME TO STOP CRIME WITHOUT HURTING
11:10:49AM SOMEONE ELSE.
11:10:50AM I APPRECIATE YOUR UNIFORM AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
11:10:53AM THANK YOU.
11:10:54AM [SPEAKING SPANISH]
11:10:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:10:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:11:00AM ONE, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP IN SOUTH TAMPA THANK YOU
11:11:04AM FOR YOUR HELP.
11:11:05AM YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES RESPOND TO US AND MY LEGISLATIVE
11:11:11AM AIDE.
11:11:11AM ALSO I WANT TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN VIERA'S COMMENTS REAL
11:11:18AM FAST.
11:11:18AM THIS CITY COUNCIL HAS SUPPORTED -- I THINK EVERY -- HAS
11:11:21AM SUPPORTED EVERY PROPOSAL THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS PUT
11:11:24AM FORWARD TO SUPPORT THE POLICE, EVEN WHEN MANY OF OUR FRIENDS
11:11:27AM AND COLLEAGUES IN THE COMMUNITY WERE ASKING US TO CUT THE
11:11:30AM BUDGET OF THE POLICE, WE SUPPORTED IT.
11:11:31AM WE GOT A LOT OF FLACK ON IT.
11:11:33AM BUT WE KNOW WE NEED TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.
11:11:36AM SO WE DID THAT.
11:11:40AM DESPITE ALL OF OUR SUPPORT, THE CRIME RATE IS GOING UP.
11:11:43AM MURDER RATE AND THE AGGRAVATED ASSAULT RATE IN PARTICULAR IS
11:11:47AM GOING UP IN THE CITY.
11:11:48AM WE NEED TO FULLY SUPPORT THE HARD-WORKING MEN AND WOMEN THAT
11:11:54AM WORK ONLINE.
11:11:54AM WE NEED BETTER LEADERSHIP.
11:11:56AM BETTER POLICY AND LEADERSHIP TO REDUCE THESE CRIME RATES.
11:11:59AM THE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY HAVE NOT HAPPY WITH IT.
11:12:02AM AND IN PARTICULAR IN SOUTH TAMPA, THEY ARE NOT HAPPY WITH
11:12:05AM IT.
11:12:05AM ONE OF THE BASIC THING IS NOT ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS.
11:12:11AM AS MUCH AS THE MAJOR AND HER STAFF WORK HARD, THEY NEED
11:12:15AM HELP.
11:12:15AM THE HARD WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THE POLICE ARE DRESSED OUT
11:12:21AM ACCORDING TO PAM IORIO'S TIME, WE ARE DOWN POLICE OFFICERS.
11:12:27AM I WANT TO SET UP NUMBER 7, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A FINAL
11:12:31AM COMMENT ON NUMBER 6.
11:12:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:12:39AM FIFTH CHIEF BENNETT, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING AND I WILL
11:12:43AM MAKE MY COMMENTS.
11:12:44AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:12:47AM THANKS THE MAJOR FOR HER REPORT AND THE FEEDBACK.
11:12:51AM ALWAYS HELPFUL.
11:12:52AM I WANT TO MENTION A DECADE AGO AND THIS CHALLENGES ALL OF
11:12:55AM US.
11:12:55AM I ASKED CHIEF BERCAW, INTERIM CHIEF BERCAW TO GET MORE
11:13:05AM INVOLVEMENT INVOLVED.
11:13:06AM I WAS A MAJOR, I RODE A BIKE, WITH THE KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL.
11:13:10AM TALK TO PEOPLE AT THE FENCE LINE.
11:13:12AM CONCENTRATED TRANSFORMATION, I AM HOPING TO SEE MORE BIKE
11:13:17AM OFFICERS.
11:13:17AM GET DOWN AN ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
11:13:20AM AND JUST GOING BACK TO GASPARILLA, ALMOST EVERY AGENCY
11:13:25AM BROUGHT A BIKE SQUAD AND ROAD THE BACK SIDE OF THE COMMUNITY
11:13:28AM TO SEE THINGS AND GET RID OF THE BAA ARIERS AND HAVE THAT
11:13:32AM ENGAGEMENT.
11:13:33AM WE DID THAT A DECADE AGO AND THIS DEPLOYMENT IS GOING TO
11:13:36AM COME BACK TO MIMIC THOSE KINDS OF LEVELS OF COMMUNITY
11:13:39AM ENGAGEMENT.
11:13:40AM SHOT SPOTTER WAS JUST IN ITS INFANCY STAGE AND I HAD NO DATA
11:13:46AM USING SHOT SPOTTER.
11:13:49AM IT WAS NOT CONCENTRATED ENOUGH.
11:13:52AM I THINK WE CAN PUT THE DEPLOYMENT QUESTION SCHEDULED
11:13:55AM TOGETHER WORKING WITH SUPPORT FROM COUNCIL AND SUPPORT FROM
11:13:59AM RESOURCES FROM THE CITY.
11:14:00AM AND GET THAT INFRASTRUCTURE STRONGER.
11:14:02AM I KNOW THEY ARE WORKING HARD ON THAT DEPLOYMENT.
11:14:04AM SHE MENTIONED THE STRATEGIC CHANGE AND I WANTED TO GO BACK
11:14:09AM IN HISTORY AND TALK ABOUT THAT.
11:14:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:14:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
11:14:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I TALKED OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AT THE
11:14:21AM MEETING AT ALLEN TEMPLE.
11:14:25AM THING IT IS IMPORTANT THAT OFFICERS KNOW THE PEOPLE.
11:14:28AM KNOWING THE PEOPLE.
11:14:29AM PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE LACK OF POLICE PRESENCE
11:14:32AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
11:14:33AM WE ARE DOWN -- THE CITY IS GROWING LEAPS AND BOUNDS.
11:14:36AM PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE EVERY DAY AND MORE PEOPLE AND MORE
11:14:42AM COPS ON THE STREET TO OBSERVE WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.
11:14:45AM WE NEED A REPORT OF HOW MANY SWORN OFFICERS AS FAR AS STREET
11:14:50AM ON PATROL HOW MANY YOU HAVE TO BREAK DOWN WHAT YOU HAVE
11:15:05AM COMMAND STAFF SAYING WE ARE DOWN 20 OFFICERS.
11:15:08AM ON THE STREET THEY SAY DOWN MORE THAN THAT.
11:15:15AM IF YOU ARE DOWN.
11:15:16AM SO BE IT.
11:15:17AM IF 200, IT IS 200.
11:15:19AM WE NEED TO KNOW THAT.
11:15:21AM PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW THAT.
11:15:25AM YOU WON'T HAVE CITIZENS SAYING DEFUND THE POLICE.
11:15:28AM YOU DON'T NEED POLICE.
11:15:34AM PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA SAY WE ARE TIRED OF POLICE SHOOTINGS
11:15:37AM EVERY DAY.
11:15:37AM WE DON'T SEE POLICE PRESENCE.
11:15:45AM I KNOW HOW IT WORKS WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW AND GET A
11:16:01AM REPORT FROM THE CHIEF.
11:16:02AM IF THE REAL NUMBER 100, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE REAL NUMBER
11:16:05AM IS.
11:16:06AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS.
11:16:07AM I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS.
11:16:09AM TWO THINGS ABOUT DEPLOYMENT.
11:16:11AM ONE IS EFFICIENCY AND ONE IS EQUITY.
11:16:14AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THE SAME LEVEL
11:16:17AM OF SERVICE 24-7 IN PUBLIC SAFETY, FIRE, POLICE AND EMERGENCY
11:16:23AM MANAGEMENT.
11:16:24AM THE OTHER SIDE, I NEED A STANDARD GOAL NOT TO BE LESS THAN
11:16:30AM 5% DOWN IN ATTRITION.
11:16:31AM IF THEY ARE BELOW 5%, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HOLD A TASK FORCE
11:16:37AM WITH HR, SOLID WASTE, PARKS, POLICE.
11:16:43AM POLICE -- AND GAG -- EIGHT YEARS AGO PLUS 30 YEARS, EVERY
11:16:47AM MONTH THEY DO A PERSONNEL REVIEW REPORT OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS
11:16:53AM OF THE AGENCY AND THE VACANCY RATE AND I NEVER SEEN A 200
11:16:58AM NUMBER.
11:16:59AM IF SOMEBODY HAS THE METHODOLOGY OF 200, I WILL BE HAPPY TO
11:17:02AM SIT DOWN.
11:17:03AM THAT IS NOT WHAT IS IMPORTANT.
11:17:05AM WHAT I AM HEARING AND WHAT THE PUBLIC IS HEARING WHAT WE
11:17:08AM NEED TO GO FORWARD.
11:17:08AM A GOOD UNDERSTANDING.
11:17:10AM THE NATIONAL AVERAGE 2.5 PER THOUSAND.
11:17:12AM WE WERE AT 3.2 PER THOUSAND BACK IN THE EARLY 2003 ERA.
11:17:18AM BUT THROUGH EFFICIENCY AND TECHNOLOGY, THE CALLS OF SERVICE
11:17:22AM HAVE GONE DOWN.
11:17:23AM 49% OF THE CALLS OF SERVICE FROM THE POLICE IS FROM THE
11:17:27AM COMMUNITY.
11:17:27AM 51%.
11:17:28AM THE LARGER NUMBER ARE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FROM POLICE.
11:17:33AM CALLS HAVE GONE DOWN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS INCLUDING
11:17:37AM NOW COMING OUT OF COVID, THEY ARE STILL TRAJECTORIED LOWER
11:17:43AM THAN BEFORE.
11:17:43AM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE GROWTH.
11:17:45AM MAKE SURE -- CRIME.
11:17:47AM A LOT OF AGREEMENTS THAT GO IN THEIR DEPLOYMENT.
11:17:51AM I THINK ONCE THEY HIT THE OPTIMIZED DEPLOYMENT THAT WENT
11:17:54AM THROUGH SHIFT BID WE CAN COME BACK WITH THE GAP OF WHAT WE
11:17:57AM NEED TO GO FORWARD AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD
11:18:00AM HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
11:18:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY ARE WE USING EACH YEAR THROUGH THE
11:18:06AM DROP.
11:18:06AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I AM SORRY?
11:18:09AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOW MANY OFFICERS.
11:18:10AM >>JOHN BENNETT: EBBS AND FLOWS.
11:18:14AM BEAUTIFUL OF THAT, IT IS PLANNED -- IT IS PLANNED EXODUS IF
11:18:22AM YOU WILL.
11:18:23AM THE OTHER ONES UNPLANNED.
11:18:24AM YOU CAN SAY 20 PEOPLE IN THE DROUGHTND I KNOW CHAIRMAN CITRO
11:18:31AM TALKED ABOUT IF YOU HIRE 20 AND 20 LEAVE THE NEXT MONTH, YOU
11:18:35AM ARE AT NET ZERO.
11:18:36AM ONE THING OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT -- I AM WORKING WITH
11:18:40AM CHIEF TRIPP ON THE FIRESIDE, THAT THE POLICY OVERHIRE.
11:18:47AM THROUGH OUR SCHOLARSHIP RECRUIT THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST
11:18:50AM ESPECIALLY FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA AND PAY THEIR WAY THROUGH
11:18:53AM THE ACADEMY AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
11:18:57AM WE CAN TO AN OVERHIRE PLAN AND LESS TIME BETWEEN THE HIRING
11:19:01AM PROCESS AND HITTING THE STREET.
11:19:03AM THE CHIEF HAD THAT FOR SOME I'M AND WORKING WITH CHIEF TRIPP
11:19:06AM TO SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE
11:19:08AM UPCOMING BUDGET.
11:19:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:19:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:19:14AM DON'T GO TOO FAR, CHIEF BENNETT.
11:19:17AM I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE I KNOW
11:19:20AM THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH A SHIFT CHANGE -- OR A SHIFT BID
11:19:24AM AND FOLKS WILL HAD BEEN MOVING TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
11:19:25AM AND THIS IS WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY
11:19:28AM ARE CONCERNED THAT THEY ARE CONCERNED THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE
11:19:34AM THEIR NEW OFFICER AND NEW PEOPLE COMING IN.
11:19:36AM I WANT TO YOU TAKE YOUR TIME.
11:19:38AM IF YOU CAN JUST TALK TO THE PUBLIC AND SHARE WHAT ARE THE
11:19:41AM PROCESSES WHEN A NEW OFFICER JOINED A DIFFERENT SQUAD OR
11:19:48AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:19:49AM HOW DOES THE DEPARTMENT ENCOURAGE THOSE FOLKS TO GET TO KNOW
11:19:54AM THE NEW SPACE.
11:19:55AM DO THEY SHADOW AN OFFICER WHO WAS ALREADY THERE FOR A LITTLE
11:19:59AM WHILE TO GET TO KNOW?
11:20:03AM PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN TALK TO AND FREQUENT?
11:20:06AM LIKE -- WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
11:20:09AM >>JOHN BENNETT: IT IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION ABOUT COMMUNITY
11:20:12AM ENGAGEMENT.
11:20:13AM SO IN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, OFFICERS BASED ON
11:20:18AM TENURE OR SENIORITY ARE ALLOWED TO SHIFT BID ONE TIME A
11:20:23AM YEAR.
11:20:23AM WE HAVE APPROACHED THE UNION AND DISCUSSED THE IDEA OF
11:20:26AM WORKING TOGETHER TO HAVE WHAT WOULD BE CALLED A DYNAMIC
11:20:29AM SHIFT BID INSTEAD OF A ONCE-A-YEAR SHIFT BID.
11:20:33AM MEANING AS THE POSITION OPENS IF YOU ARE FIRST ON THE LIST,
11:20:36AM IT WILL BE LESS CHALLENGING TO DO IT ALMOST ALL THE TIME AS
11:20:40AM OPPOSED TO A BIG MOVE.
11:20:42AM BUT THIS IS WHAT THE UNIT HAS ASKED FOR.
11:20:44AM AND SO FAR, WE HAVEN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN CONVERTING THAT
11:20:48AM THOUGHT PROCESS; HOWEVER, THE TWO IMPORTANT PARTS OF WHAT
11:20:51AM YOU ASKED IS WHAT HAPPENS IN SHIFT BID AND HOW DO WE
11:20:55AM REACCLIMATE TO THE COMMUNITY ONCE THE OFFICER GETS AROUND
11:20:59AM AND MOVED TO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
11:21:00AM THAT IS YOUR CHOICE.
11:21:02AM THE NUMBERS TRADITIONALLY WHEN I HAD IT WERE VERY LOW
11:21:05AM BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE BECOME PART OF THAT COMMUNITY AND THEY
11:21:11AM TONIGHT WANT TO LEAVE.
11:21:12AM THEY KNOW THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
11:21:14AM THEY KNOW THE SCHOOLS.
11:21:15AM THEY KNOW THE BUSINESSES.
11:21:17AM THEY REALLY DON'T WANT TO GO.
11:21:18AM A LOT OF IT IS DONE -- AND COUNCILMAN GUDES MAY SUPPORT THIS
11:21:22AM THOUGHT, BASED ON THE LEADERSHIP OF THAT SQUAD.
11:21:24AM THEY WILL FOLLOW THAT LEADER.
11:21:25AM A LOT OF TIME THOSE LEADERS -- I HAD SENIOR PEOPLE THAT DID
11:21:29AM NOT WANT TO GET OFF MIDNIGHTS.
11:21:31AM STAYED ONNIGHTS FOR 30 YEARS AND THOSE OFFICERS FOLLOWED
11:21:36AM THAT LEADER.
11:21:36AM THE SECOND TIME FOR THOSE WHO DO MOVE.
11:21:40AM ONE OF THE THINGS I STARTED IN 2009 WHICH STILL GOES ON
11:21:44AM TODAY.
11:21:44AM ANY COMMUNITY MEMBER CAN HAVE A PORCH ROLL CALL.
11:21:48AM WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAN HAVE ROLL CALLS ON THEIR FRONT
11:21:53AM PORCH.
11:21:54AM THE CHALLENGE IS TO GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND
11:21:57AM NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH TO ASK FOR THOSE PORCH ROLL CALLS AND YOU
11:22:01AM GET INTRODUCED TO THE SQUAD.
11:22:02AM YOU GET TO UNDERSTAND ON BOTH CYCLES WHO YOUR OFFICERS ARE
11:22:06AM AND YOU GET CELL PHONE NUMBERS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
11:22:08AM REALLY BLOSSOM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
11:22:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOLLOWING THAT WHICH IS VERY TRUE.
11:22:15AM I THINK IT IS CRITICAL TO DO THAT.
11:22:16AM I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN A NEW OFFICER JOINS AN AREA, I KNOW THAT
11:22:23AM CRIME WATCHES ARE DIVIDED INTO GRIDS.
11:22:26AM DON'T NECESSARILY CORRESPOND TO NEIGHBORHOODS PER SE.
11:22:33AM THEY TRY, BUT THEY DON'T ALWAYS.
11:22:34AM ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAVE VOICED ABOUT
11:22:41AM THAT PROGRAM IS THEY DO NOT KNOW WHO THEIR SURROUNDING
11:22:47AM REPRESENTATIVES ARE.
11:22:47AM IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.
11:22:49AM IF YOU ARE IN GRID I BELIEVE 58.
11:22:53AM ONE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS THEY DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE IS IN 59
11:22:59AM OR WHO THAT PERSON IS.
11:23:00AM THERE IS NOT A LOT OF CONTINUITY OR SHARING OF THAT
11:23:03AM INFORMATION AND I THINK THAT MAY NOT ONLY HELP WITH ROLL
11:23:10AM CALLS BUT INTRODUCTION TO NEW OFFICERS IN AREAS.
11:23:13AM I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO EXPLORE WITH YOU OFF LINE, HOW WE CAN
11:23:20AM EMPOWER MORE COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS IN THAT ROLE TO PARTNER
11:23:27AM WITH ONE ANOTHER TO PROVIDE BETTER EYES AND EARS FOR
11:23:30AM OFFICERS IN GENERAL AND JUST THE SAFETY BETWEEN COMMUNITIES.
11:23:34AM AND RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE.
11:23:38AM AS A IT SHALL AS A NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER.
11:23:40AM THAT COULD BE SILOED AT TIMES.
11:23:43AM AND NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS FIND IT VERY FRUSTRATING THAT THEY
11:23:47AM CAN'T TALK TO THEIR COUNTERPARTS.
11:23:49AM AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON
11:23:52AM BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL GO A LONG WAY TOWARD MAKING SURE
11:23:55AM WE ALL COMMUNICATE BETTER.
11:23:57AM >>JOHN BENNETT: MAKES SENSE.
11:24:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:24:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TO YOU, MAYOR AND CHIEF TRIPP.
11:24:07AM I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES TO
11:24:10AM PRODUCE AN OFFICER.
11:24:11AM YOU SAY BRING THEM IN.
11:24:12AM AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN YOU GO THROUGH EVERYTHING, FOUR
11:24:16AM OR TV MONTHS RIDING IN THE CAR FROM ANOTHER OFFICER AND
11:24:19AM LEARNING THE PROCESSES AND THINGS THAT YOU SEE OR DON'T SEE
11:24:21AM AND WHAT YOU HEAR.
11:24:22AM NOT JUST HIRING SOMEBODY AND SAY HERE IS YOUR BADGE, GO DO
11:24:26AM IT EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE GRADUATING SO FORTH AND SO ON.
11:24:31AM CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT IS DONE?
11:24:34AM IT IS VERY IMPORTANT BENEVOLENT THE RECRUITMENT CYCLE, YOU
11:24:39AM ARE NOT ON THE STREET.
11:24:40AM WE ARE FORTUNATE AT TPD OFFICERS HAVE PRIOR EXPERIENCE AND
11:24:45AM CERTIFIED.
11:24:46AM THEIR ROLE ON THE STREET --
11:24:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME STOP YOU, I HEAR OTHER AGENCIES
11:24:51AM SAY PLEASE DON'T TAKE SOME OF OUR OFFICERS.
11:24:54AM IS THAT CORRECT?
11:24:55AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THERE ARE REQUEST FROM PARTNER AGENCIES TO
11:24:58AM HELP BECAUSE THEY ARE CHALLENGED WITH GETTING RECRUITING AND
11:25:01AM SOME OF THE SALARIES THAT SALARIES HAVE SUPPORTED FOR
11:25:03AM INFLATION FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS GOES A LONG WAY.
11:25:09AM ATTRACTIVE TO WORK HERE.
11:25:10AM IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE IN 1984.
11:25:13AM I WILL STAY GOING BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION.
11:25:15AM WHEN AN OFFICER HITS THE STREET THEY GO THROUGH A FIELD
11:25:18AM TRAINING PROGRAM FIVE PHASES.
11:25:20AM INITIAL PHASE, SECOND, THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH PHASE.
11:25:26AM FOR AN OFFICER TO TRULY BE ON THEIR OWN AND OFF PROBATION
11:25:30AM TAKES A YEAR.
11:25:31AM HALF OF THAT THEY ARE IN THEIR LAST PHASE WHERE THEY ARE
11:25:34AM WORKING AN INDEPENDENT RESOURCE ON THEIR FINAL SQUAD HIS OR
11:25:42AM HER FINAL SQUAD.
11:25:43AM I SAY A YEAR AND CREATED THE OVERHIRE PROGRAM TO OVERLAP
11:25:48AM AND REDUCE THE ATTRITION RATES OF PLANNED DEPARTURE THAT
11:25:52AM COUNCILMAN GUDES TALKED ABOUT.
11:25:54AM AND MAKING SURE WE KEEP THAT 5% WITH IN A 1,000-PERSON
11:25:59AM DEPARTMENT OR UNDER THAT 50 OR LESS.
11:26:01AM NOT TO MENTION THAT SPOKEN OF VERY OFTEN WAS THE SIZE OF OUR
11:26:05AM RESERVE FORCE.
11:26:06AM WE HAVE A LOT OF RETIRED OFFICERS THAT STAY ON AS A
11:26:10AM VOLUNTEER RESERVE OFFICERS AND THEY HAVE TO DONATE SO MANY
11:26:13AM HOURS A MONTH AS PART OF THAT VOLUNTEER PROGRAM, AND THAT IS
11:26:17AM OFFSET BY WORKING SPECIAL EVENTS AND WORKING IN SOME OF THE
11:26:20AM EXTRA DUTY JOBS.
11:26:22AM SO WHEN I HAD IT, THERE WAS LOAFER 100.
11:26:25AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE TODAY.
11:26:27AM BUT COUNCILMAN GUDES' POINT, WE SHOULD COME BACK AND RIGHT
11:26:32AM AFTER THIS DEPLOYMENT SETTLES COMING UP.
11:26:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:26:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE.
11:26:38AM THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT PEOPLE WANT TO FEEL SAFE.
11:26:45AM PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE SAFE IN THEIR HOMES.
11:26:47AM BUSINESSES WANT TO GO AND OPEN INTO AREAS THAT THEY KNOW ARE
11:26:52AM SAFE.
11:26:52AM THIS -- THIS SHOOTING ON MAIN STREET.
11:26:57AM THIS COWARDESS ACT DOESN'T MAKE PEOPLE FEEL DEAF.
11:27:03AM WHEN YOU HAVE A SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT -- LET'S JUST SAY THREE
11:27:07AM OFFICERS.
11:27:07AM ONE IS SICK.
11:27:08AM ONE IS OUT ON TRAINING.
11:27:10AM AND ANOTHER HAS FAMILY LEAVE.
11:27:15AM THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO PULL FROM OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY.
11:27:17AM BACK WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUDGET, MY REQUEST WAS FOR
11:27:22AM MORE STAFFING.
11:27:23AM MORE STAFFING, CODE ENFORCEMENT, PERMITTING, INSPECTION,
11:27:28AM FEAR AND POLICE.
11:27:31AM I STILL FEEL THAT WE NEED MORE POLICE OFFICER.
11:27:35AM WE NEED MORE PRESENCE OUT THERE.
11:27:37AM SOME OF THOSE POLICE OFFICERS NEED TO BE ON BICYCLES.
11:27:40AM SOME OF THEM NEED TO GET OUT OF THE CARS AND WALK THE
11:27:42AM STREETS.
11:27:43AM THIS AREA THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
11:27:47AM POINTED OUT, AN AREA BEHIND A FRIEND OF OURS AIR
11:27:52AM CONDITIONING COMPANY THAT THERE IS CONSTANT LOITERING.
11:27:55AM CONSTANT DRUG DEALING.
11:27:57AM AND A LOITERING ISSUE AT THE CORNER OF MAIN AND HOWARD SP A
11:28:03AM PROBLEM.
11:28:03AM BUT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE POLICE OFFICERS DON'T IT
11:28:10AM THEMSELVES.
11:28:11AM AN OLD OVERUSED EXPRESSION.
11:28:13AM BUT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.
11:28:15AM WE NEED YOUR HELP AS CITIZENS TO HELP OUR POLICE FORCE, TO
11:28:19AM HELP KEEP YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SAFE.
11:28:23AM THANK YOU, MAJOR.
11:28:25AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:28:26AM YOU WANTON GO INTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.
11:28:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO SET UP NUMBER 7.
11:28:32AM THERE WERE PUBLIC COMMENTS OF BIKING WHILE BLACK.
11:28:35AM THIS IS NOT THAT.
11:28:36AM THIS IS NOT ABOUT PEOPLE, INNOCENT PEOPLE RIDING A BICYCLE
11:28:40AM ON THE STREET THIS WITH AS A SPECIFIC QUESTION AND SPECIFIC
11:28:43AM ISSUE OF HAPPENED IN SOUTH TAMPA AT LEAST.
11:28:45AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT HAPPENED IN OTHER AREAS.
11:28:47AM A GROUP OF -- YOU WILL TELL US, A GROUP OF 15 PEOPLE WHO
11:28:51AM WOULD SURROUND CARS AND BICYCLES AND -- AND THE FEEDBACK WE
11:28:55AM SAW ON LINE AND VERBALLY WAS THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE
11:28:59AM THREATENED AND TERRORIZED.
11:29:01AM SO PEOPLE FROM NEIGHBORHOODS AND INDIVIDUALS WHO REACHED OUT
11:29:04AM TO HELP.
11:29:05AM AND YOUR TEAM STEPPED IN.
11:29:06AM I THINK YOU HAVE SOME POSITIVE NEWS.
11:29:09AM I WILL LET YOU GO.
11:29:10AM THANK YOU.
11:29:10AM >> YES.
11:29:11AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:29:12AM YES, I'M HERE ON THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM TO DISCUSS COUNCIL'S
11:29:16AM CONCERNS AND THE CITIZENS' CONCERNS ABOUT BICYCLISTS RIDING
11:29:21AM AND CAUSING DANGEROUS SITUATIONS.
11:29:22AM THERE WAS ONE PARTICULAR DATE IN EARLY DECEMBER WHERE IT
11:29:27AM HAPPENED IN SOUTH TAMPA, CLOSER TO THE DAVIS ISLAND AREA.
11:29:31AM SO FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN OFFICERS COME INTO
11:29:35AM CONTACT WITH ANY LARGE GROUP OF CYCLISTS LIKE THE ONE WE ARE
11:29:38AM DISCUSSING, THE BEST WAY TO COMBAT THE BAD CYCLING BEHAVIOR
11:29:42AM IS ALWAYS TO EDUCATE THE RIDERS.
11:29:44AM SO IMPORTANT TO FIRST COME IN CONTACT WITH THAT GROUP AND
11:29:47AM SPEAK TO THEM.
11:29:48AM WE ALWAYS WANT WANT TO DO EDUCATION FIRST RATHER THAN
11:29:53AM IMMEDIATELY IMPOSE ENFORCEMENT.
11:29:56AM I HEARD OF THE CYCLIST SITUATION IN EARLY DECEMBER WHEN LIKE
11:30:00AM I JUST SAID.
11:30:01AM WHEN I HEARD OF IT I GOT WITH MY SHIFT COMMANDERS BECAUSE
11:30:05AM ANOTHER DATE OF CONCERN UPCOMING THE FOLLOWING SUNDAY WHERE
11:30:09AM THIS GROUP WAS REPORT TO ASSEMBLE AGAIN.
11:30:12AM WE WANTED TO BE OUT IN FRONT OF THAT.
11:30:14AM WE PUT A LITTLE OPERATION PLAN FOR THE OFFICERS.
11:30:17AM WE MONITORED THAT AREA.
11:30:18AM WE ALSO MONITORED THE TRAFFIC CAMERAS THAT WERE AVAIL TO US
11:30:22AM THROUGH THE REALTIME CRIME CENTER AND THEY DIDN'T COME.
11:30:26AM SO WE DID NOT HEAR OF THIS GROUPND ANY MORE FORMATION OF
11:30:30AM THIS GROUP COMING UNTIL THE CHILDREN'S GASPARILLA PARADE.
11:30:33AM AGAIN, WE ADDRESSED IT BY PUTTING TOGETHER A MINI OPERATIONS
11:30:36AM PLAN LED BY LIEUTENANT BRIDGEMAN IN DISTRICT 3.
11:30:39AM HE ACTUALLY DID COME IN CONTACT WITH THE GROUP.
11:30:42AM 13 RIDERS.
11:30:43AM I ALSO SAW THE GROUP.
11:30:44AM THERE ARE 13 RIDERS.
11:30:47AM THEY DID NOT GO TO THE CHILDREN'S PARADE.
11:30:49AM THEY WENT NORTH TOWARD DISTRICT 2, THE BUSCH GARDENS.
11:30:54AM THEY RODE THEIR BIKES.
11:30:57AM THEY WERE RESPECTFUL TO HIM.
11:31:00AM THEY SAID IT IS DANGEROUS WHEN YOU DO YOUR WHEELIES ON THE
11:31:04AM BICYCLE.
11:31:04AM SOME WERE YOUNGER.
11:31:05AM SOME WERE OLDER.
11:31:06AM A MIXED GROUP.
11:31:07AM ALL RACES.
11:31:09AM ALL AGES, ADULTS, JUVENILES THAT WERE RIDING THEIR BIKES.
11:31:13AM SO I, TOO, HAVE ENCOUNTERED A GROUP OF CYCLISTS IN THE
11:31:18AM DOWNTOWN AREA.
11:31:18AM I KNOW YOU GUYS KNOW I WORK THE AMALIE ARENA.
11:31:21AM I SEE MANY OF YOU ALL THERE.
11:31:24AM THERE WAS FIVE IN PARTICULAR.
11:31:25AM AND THEY ACTUALLY WERE WALKING THEIR BIKE THROUGH THE
11:31:28AM INTERSECTION AND THEY STOPPED TO TALK TO ME.
11:31:30AM ONE KID TOLD ME HE WAS FROM BOSTON.
11:31:32AM HE WAS JOKING AROUND.
11:31:34AM WE LOOKED AT THEIR BIKES.
11:31:36AM THEY ALL THIS THE PROPER BIKE EQUIPMENT ON THEM.
11:31:39AM I REMINDED THEM TO BE SAFE BECAUSE THE HABIT IS TO GO
11:31:43AM STRAIGHT INTO TRAFFIC AND COUNTERFLOW TRAFFIC.
11:31:45AM I REMINDED THEM THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
11:31:47AM THEY WALKED OVER TO THE NEW WATER STREET DISTRICT AND THEY
11:31:51AM WERE PUSHING THEIR BIKES.
11:31:52AM THEY WERE VERY RESPECTFUL.
11:31:53AM COMPARING THE CONCERNS HERE IN TAMPA WITH OTHER CITIES, I
11:31:59AM FOUND THAT ANOTHER WAY THOSE JURISDICTIONS ARE TACKLING BAD
11:32:05AM CYCLING BEHAVIOR IS IMPROVING THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:32:07AM TAMPA IS ALREADY DOING THIS.
11:32:09AM WE SAW THE BIG RENOVATION ON CASS STREET FROM THE DOWNTOWN
11:32:12AM AREA TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
11:32:13AM WE HAVE IT RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF CITY HALL ALONG JACKSON
11:32:17AM STREET.
11:32:17AM SO WE ARE ENCOURAGING MORE CYCLE ING.
11:32:22AM WE WILL SEE MORE CYCLISTS IN OUR AREA OF ALL CYCLISTS, AND
11:32:30AM THEY RIDE IN BIGGER GROUPS THAT EN WE WANT THEM TO.
11:32:33AM WE ARE REMINDING CYCLISTS DO NOT RIDE MORE THAN TWO TANDEM
11:32:38AM BECAUSE IT IS NOT SAFE.
11:32:39AM WE ALSO HAVE MEASURES THAT WE WANT THE DRIVERS TO KNOW.
11:32:42AM WE -- THERE IS DISTRACT CAN BEHAVIOR BY THE CYCLIST.
11:32:46AM WE DON'T WANT THEM TO FOCUS ON DISTRACTING BEHAVIOR IN A CAR
11:32:53AM OR ON A BIKE.
11:32:54AM YOU COME TO THE INTERSECTION.
11:32:56AM YIELD THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE OTHER PERSON IF IT LOOKS LIKE
11:32:59AM IT WILL INTERFERE WITH YOUR SKILLS.
11:33:00AM THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES.
11:33:03AM WAVE THOSE CYCLISTS THROUGH.
11:33:04AM LET THEM GO BY YOU.
11:33:06AM YOU AS A CYCLIST GROUP CAN DO THE SAME THING.
11:33:08AM WAVE THE DRIVERS THROUGH.
11:33:11AM IF ONLY ONE CAR SITTING THERE, YOUR GROUP WILL WAIT.
11:33:14AM LET THE CAR GO THROUGH AND LET THEM GO.
11:33:17AM MINDFUL OF PEDESTRIANS ALSO.
11:33:19AM THE OFFICERS HAVE EQUIPPED TO HELP THE CYCLISTS.
11:33:26AM I BROUGHT VARIETY OF BIKE LIGHTS TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL.
11:33:31AM THESE BIKE LIGHTS, WE GIVE THEM OUT.
11:33:33AM PARTNER WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
11:33:35AM WE HAVE DIFFERENT KINDS BECAUSE ALL DIFFERENT SIZES OF
11:33:39AM BIKES.
11:33:40AM THIS.
11:33:40AM SOME ARE BIGGER, SMALLER BUT THEY ILLUMINATE THE SAME TO
11:33:45AM HELP OUR CYCLISTS.
11:33:47AM CONCERN THAT CITIZENS NEED ASSISTANCE IMMEDIATELY AND IN
11:33:49AM THESE SITUATIONS, WE TELL THEM PLEASE CALL US.
11:33:52AM ON THE SITUATION THAT WE BEGAN TALKING ABOUT, WORKSHOP NOT
11:33:55AM CALLED.
11:33:55AM THE FENCE IS GOT EXACERBATED BECAUSE THEY USED A COMMUNITY
11:34:00AM FOR RUM ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
11:34:01AM IT SNOWBALLED INTO EVERYBODY WAS JUST -- THIS HAPPENED, THIS
11:34:05AM HAPPENED, AND THIS HAPPENED, AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE
11:34:08AM CALLS.
11:34:08AM IF YOU CALL US, THE OFFICERS WILL RESPOND.
11:34:13AM THEY NEED TO GET OUT THERE IMMEDIATELY.
11:34:16AM WE WANT THE CITIZENS ON THE BOO I CAN OR THE CARS, TO GET
11:34:20AM THE ASSISTANCE THEY NEED.
11:34:21AM MRS., CYCLISTS AND MOTORISTS NEED TO ACT IN PREDICTABLE
11:34:26AM WAYS.
11:34:27AM YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
11:34:28AM YOU CAN'T GO AROUND THE CAR TO CATCH UP WITH YOUR BUDDY.
11:34:31AM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WHEN WE COME INTO CONTACT
11:34:34AM WITH A CYCLIST.
11:34:35AM EDUCATION, AND IF WE HAVE TO, WE WILL DO THE ENFORCEMENT AND
11:34:41AM WE WILL ALSO SAME FOR DRIVERS WITH THE VEHICLES.
11:34:50AM IN PAST WEEKEND -- THE WEEKEND BEFORE THE CHILDREN'S
11:34:53AM GASPARILLA PARADE.
11:34:54AM WE DO A BICYCLE RODEO.
11:34:59AM WE GAVE OUT 200 BICYCLE HELMETS AND BICYCLE LIGHTS.
11:35:03AM WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ENCOURAGE GOOD BEHAVIOR.
11:35:07AM WE HAVE STAFF STAFF THE IT WITH THE YOUNGER GENERATION.
11:35:10AM THE CURRENT GENERATIONS MIGHT WILL ARE HAVE THE BAD
11:35:14AM BEHAVIORS AND DON'T WANT TOP START ENFORCEMENT WHEN WE CAN
11:35:19AM RELY ON EDUCATION.
11:35:20AM I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD GIVE THEM TO MR. SHELBY.
11:35:22AM I COULD JUST SHOW TO COUNCIL.
11:35:25AM WE HAVE VERY CUTE BLUE LIGHTS, A RED FLASHING LIGHT, A WHITE
11:35:29AM LIGHT THEY CAN PUT ON THERE.
11:35:31AM WE HAVE SOME BLACK AND ORANGE ONES AND MORE FANCIER ONES FOR
11:35:39AM THE BIGGER BIKES.
11:35:43AM WE HAVE SOME OF THESE.
11:35:44AM AND THEY RECHARGE.
11:35:46AM AND WE ALSO HAVE -- YOU CAN PUT IT AROUND YOUR CHEST.
11:35:50AM SO IMPORTANT THAT YOU ARE WELL ILLUMINATED, THE REFLECTED
11:35:54AM THINGS YOU NEED TO RIDE THE BIKES.
11:35:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND THEN TO
11:35:59AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:36:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:36:01AM ANOTHER AREA.
11:36:03AM AND THIS WAS BROUGHT UP BY OUR MUTUAL FRIEND, JENNIFER.
11:36:08AM THE RIVER WALK.
11:36:10AM AND -- I HAVE WITNESSED THIS MYSELF AND I RECEIVED SEVERAL
11:36:15AM COMPLAINTS.
11:36:15AM THEY CALL THEM BIKER GANGS, BUT YOUNG PEOPLE ON BICYCLES,
11:36:19AM PEOPLE ARE WALKING ON THE RIVER WALK, FRIDAY NIGHT, SUNDAY
11:36:23AM NIGHT AND POPPING WHEELIES, CUTTING THROUGH.
11:36:26AM FOLKS SAYING THEY ARE TERRORIZING US AND COMING RIGHT UP TO
11:36:29AM US IT.
11:36:29AM WE DON'T KNOW IF WE WILL GET HIT WITH THE FRONT TIRE OF THE
11:36:33AM BIKE AND ALL THIS AND THAT.
11:36:35AM BUT I THINK MOST RECENTLY WITHIN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, ONE OF
11:36:39AM THE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAS CONSTANTLY COMPLAINED BECAUSE HE
11:36:41AM LIVES HERE DOWNTOWN SAID THAT POLICE WERE OUT THERE
11:36:45AM MONITORING THE AREA FINALLY.
11:36:46AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT AS WELL.
11:36:48AM BUT THAT -- THAT SITUATION IS GETTING -- GETTING RESOLVED.
11:36:54AM BUT, YEAH.
11:36:55AM NOT 15, 30, 40 BIKES.
11:36:57AM THEY WERE COMING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, POPPING WHEELIES, DOING
11:37:01AM TRICKS.
11:37:02AM BUT PEOPLE PUSHING STROLLERS AND OLDER FOLKS.
11:37:06AM SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET HURT.
11:37:07AM AND PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN.
11:37:09AM THEY HAVE COME VERY CLOSE TO GETTING HURT, BUT, AGAIN, TPD
11:37:13AM AS OF TWO WEEKS AGO OUT THERE PATROLLING AND TALKING TO
11:37:16AM FOLKS.
11:37:16AM AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING SINCE.
11:37:18AM SO IF YOU HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT, THANK YOU.
11:37:21AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:37:22AM A POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM THE FOLKS FROM THERE.
11:37:24AM THANK YOU.
11:37:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:37:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: THREE THINGS REAL FAST.
11:37:30AM IF I REMEMBER -- AND YOU CAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE
11:37:32AM LIGHT PROGRAM, AND YOU HAVE ALL GIVEN OUT HUNDREDS OF
11:37:35AM THOUSANDS OF LIGHTS.
11:37:37AM THE LIGHT PROGRAM GIVEAWAY WAS A RESPONSE OF BIKING WHILE
11:37:42AM BLACK.
11:37:42AM PEOPLE PULLED OVER DIDN'T HAVE LIGHTS.
11:37:44AM STOP ME IF I AM WRONG, BUT I THINK A PROGRAM YOU SET UP TO
11:37:48AM SHOW THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE NOT GET TICKETS AND
11:37:51AM NOT GET PULLED OVER.
11:37:52AM AM I CLOSE?
11:37:54AM >> WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE BICYCLE DASHBOARD A PRODUCT OF THAT
11:37:58AM TO SEE ALL THE BIKE STOPS WE DO IN THE CITY.
11:38:01AM THERE WAS A SEPARATE INITIATIVE, BUT THAT HAS BEEN SEVERAL
11:38:04AM YEARS, ALMOST A DECADE NOW.
11:38:06AM BUT WE ARE DOING EDUCATION.
11:38:08AM CERTAINLY, WE WEREN'T TARGETING BIKING WHILE BLACK WHILE WE
11:38:12AM WERE AT THE BICYCLE RODEO.
11:38:15AM THESE WERE THE LIGHTS GIVEN OUT TO THE YOUNG KIDS.
11:38:17AM WE HAVE CONTINUED THIS PROGRAM.
11:38:19AM NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THAT.
11:38:20AM IT IS ALWAYS.
11:38:21AM ANYTHING TO DO WITH CYCLING.
11:38:24AM WE JUST NEED FOR THEM TO HAVE THE CORRECT EQUIPMENT, THE
11:38:27AM HELMETS.
11:38:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE ON THIS AGENDA
11:38:32AM ITEM, THERE WAS A SPECIFIC GROUP THAT PEOPLE FELT THREATENED
11:38:36AM BECAUSE OF THE WHEELIES AND -- NOT JUST WHEELIES AND DOING
11:38:39AM OTHER THINGS TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL THREATENED.
11:38:45AM FOR PUBLIC PURPOSE, DO YOU THINK THAT SITUATION HAS BEEN
11:38:50AM RESOLVED.
11:38:50AM YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO ARREST OR FINE ANYBODY.
11:38:52AM YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS.
11:38:53AM >> WE HAVE BEEN GOING OUT AND A CAN I HAVE ITLY PATROLLING
11:38:58AM THE AREAS IN QUESTION TO TRY TO COME IN CONTACT WITH THE
11:39:02AM BICYCLE GROUP.
11:39:03AM NOT ALWAYS THE SAME PEOPLE BUT WE HAVE TO PUT THE WORD OUT
11:39:06AM AND ENCOURAGE GOOD CYCLING ETIQUETTE.
11:39:09AM THAT IS WHAT ALL THE OFFICERS IN ALL THREE DISTRICTS,
11:39:12AM BECAUSE THE RIVERWALK IN DISTRICT 3.
11:39:18AM WE FEEL THAT, YES, IT IS SUBSIDING, BUT STILL IF IT HAPPENS,
11:39:28AM THE SAME WITH THE SHOOTING.
11:39:29AM ONE TIME TOO MANY.
11:39:30AM PLEASE CALL US.
11:39:31AM PLEASE DON'T GO TO SOCIAL MEDIA AND COMPLAIN ON THERE AND
11:39:36AM THE OFFICERS DON'T KNOW.
11:39:36AM BECAUSE WE DON'T MONITOR THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTSkt
11:39:44AM CARLSON ANYBODY WATCHING, ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR WE ARE
11:39:47AM GETTING UPDATES ON BIKING WHILE BLACK NUMBERS AND MAKING
11:39:50AM SURE THERE ARE NO IN THE DISPARITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
11:39:53AM THE OTHER THING, SOMEWHAT TANGENT, EVERY TIME I DRIVE DOWN
11:39:58AM DALE MABRY, AS AN EXAMPLE, I SEE SOMEONE CUTTING ACROSS THE
11:40:02AM ROAD NOT AT A LIGHT.
11:40:03AM AND INSTEAD OF -- I THINK WHEN CARS ARE ON ROADS LIKE THAT,
11:40:06AM THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO ACT LIKE A CAR, BUT INSTEAD THEY JUT
11:40:09AM ACROSS.
11:40:10AM I ALMOST SEE PEOPLE GET HIT ALMOST EVERY DAY.
11:40:13AM WHAT -- HOW CAN WE TRY TO RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES TO HELP
11:40:18AM PEOPLE NOT TAKE RISKS LIKE THAT?
11:40:21AM >> SO ONE OF THE THINGS -- IS COMMIT AND WE HAVE THE VISION
11:40:26AM ZERO PROGRAM IMPLEMENTED FOR A FEW YEARS NOW TO INCREASING
11:40:30AM OUR LIGHTED CROSSWALKS.
11:40:34AM MOST NOTABLY THE BAYSHORE AREA.
11:40:37AM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
11:40:39AM SO WE ARE -- WE ARE COMMITTED TO THAT.
11:40:41AM SO IF YOU HAVE AN AREA OF CONCERN AND YOU ARE SEEING
11:40:45AM REPETITIVE BEHAVIOR.
11:40:46AM LET US KNOW.
11:40:47AM WE CAN GO OUT THERE AND DO ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES.
11:40:50AM START WITH EDUCATION IF WE NEED TO.
11:40:52AM SO IF THERE ARE SPECIFIC AREA ALONG THE DALE MABRY CORRIDOR
11:40:58AM THAT YOU ARE NOT SEEING US PLEASE LET US KNOW.
11:41:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: I SEE IT ON DALE MABRY A LOT.
11:41:04AM PEOPLE GO THROUGH THE RED LIGHT WHEN THE CARS ARE STOPPED
11:41:07AM AND GO DIAGONAL ALL ACROSS THE INCOMING TRAFFIC AND EVERYONE
11:41:13AM JUST DIAGONAL.
11:41:15AM THAT HAPPENS ONCE A WEEK L ALSO.
11:41:18AM I DON'T KNOW MAYBE A SEPARATE CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY
11:41:22AM BUT A WAY TO REACH SOME OF THOSE FOLKS AND ENCOURAGE THEM
11:41:25AM NOT TO BREAK THE TRAFFIC LAWS, THANK YOU.
11:41:28AM >> YES.
11:41:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:41:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO HAVE MR. BHIDE, HE HAD THE CAMERA
11:41:36AM ON AND VERY EXCITING IN US ABOUT VISION ZERO.
11:41:39AM I THINK THAT IS THE REASON HE POPPED ON.
11:41:41AM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:41:43AM THE VISION ZERO NEWS IS A GRANT THAT WE JUST WON, $20
11:41:48AM MILLION, WHICH WILL THROUGH RUTH KATE'S POINT.
11:41:54AM THANK YOU SO MUCH MAJOR KATE FOR MENTIONING INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:41:57AM WE WILL BE ABLE TO DEPLOY MORE BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:42:01AM AS FAR AS BICYCLE BEHAVIOR, AND AS FAR AS ACCOMMODATION OF
11:42:08AM BICYCLIST, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE SEE -- SAY SAY
11:42:14AM THIS AS A BICYCLIST MYSELF, IS THE LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:42:17AM IT IS NOT JUST ON THE BICYCLIST ALWAYS, BUT AN AWARENESS IN
11:42:22AM EDUCATION ON ANYONE'S PART, BUT WE ARE WORKING TOWARD
11:42:25AM GETTING MORE AND MORE BICYCLE INFRASTRUCTURE AND MORE
11:42:31AM CROSSWALKS AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE SAFETY ON OUR
11:42:34AM ROADWAYS BEGINNING WITH OUR UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY.
11:42:38AM ZIP CODES 33607, 33605, 33603, THAT IS WHERE WE ARE GOING TO
11:42:47AM FOCUS A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS.
11:42:48AM I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.
11:42:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:42:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
11:42:54AM MY QUESTION OR COMMENT IS DIRECTED TO BOTH OF YOU AT THIS
11:42:58AM POINT.
11:42:58AM YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES EDUCATING BOTH BICYCLISTS AND
11:43:03AM DRIVERS.
11:43:03AM AND I THINK THAT WE NEED NOW THAT WE ARE DEVELOPING MORE OF
11:43:08AM A BIKE CULTURE AND FINDING PEOPLE USING BIKES TO GET AROUND,
11:43:12AM IT MIGHT BE BE A GOOD TIME TO WORK TOGETHER TO CREATE SOME
11:43:18AM PROGRAMS TO REMIND PEOPLE HOW TO RIDE A BIKE SAFELY.
11:43:22AM ONE NEW THING IS THE EAR PODS THAT HAVE POPPED UP THAT I SEE
11:43:26AM PEOPLE ON BIKES WEARING ALL THE TIME.
11:43:29AM WILDLY DANGEROUS, BUT ALSO CARS JUST NOT -- NOT YIELDING.
11:43:34AM NOT GIVING WAY TO BICYCLISTS.
11:43:37AM SO I THINK THERE IS ABSOLUTELY AREA THAT WE CAN WORK ON
11:43:41AM EDUCATION TO BOTH AREAS.
11:43:48AM BICYCLISTS AND CAR RIDERS.
11:43:50AM I WOULD LIKE TO AT THAT YOU CAN ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE
11:43:53AM SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO THROUGH TPD EDUCATION DEPARTMENT AND
11:43:57AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:43:58AM TO REALLY FOCUS ON HOW WE ENCOURAGE BOTH SETS TO GET ALONG.
11:44:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
11:44:12AM DOES -- VIK, DON'T LEAVE.
11:44:15AM I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME KUDOS.
11:44:17AM DOES A 3,000-POUND HUNK OF METAL HAVE MORE RIGHTS ON THE
11:44:23AM ROAD THAN A BICYCLIST?
11:44:24AM NO, NOT AT ALL.
11:44:26AM BUT WE ALL NEED TO LEARN THE RULES OF THE ROAD.
11:44:28AM VIK, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR MOBILITY STAFF FOR THE
11:44:33AM QUICK BUILD KASS STREET PROJECT.
11:44:36AM THANK YOU THERE.
11:44:36AM I WAS THERE WITH -- WITH AM SOFT YOUR PEOPLE.
11:44:46AM IT IS AMAZING WHAT WE ARE DOING FOR VISION ZERO AND
11:44:50AM BICYCLISTS.
11:44:52AM WE ARE GETTING MORE BIKE PATHS.
11:44:54AM UNTIL YES THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PEOPLE FEEL SAFE RIDING
11:44:58AM THEIR BIKES ON THE STREET WITH A BARRIER BETWEEN THEM AND
11:45:01AM THE AUTOMOBILES, BICYCLISTS ARE STILL GOING TO RIDE ON THE
11:45:05AM SIDEWALKS.
11:45:06AM THIS SUBJECT THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IS ABOUT USE.
11:45:14AM AND WE WERE ALL YOUNG AT ONE TIME WITH OUR TESTOSTERONE
11:45:18AM GOING CRAZY, THE MALE.
11:45:20AM AND WE WANTED TO POP WHEELIES LOOK WHAT I CAN DO.
11:45:24AM SEE WHAT I CAN DO.
11:45:26AM WATCH WHAT I CAN DO.
11:45:27AM AND THERE ARE PEOPLE IN ALL AREAS OF TOWN, DAVIS ISLAND,
11:45:33AM YBOR CITY, DOWNTOWN, WHERE THEY ARE FEELING A LITTLE
11:45:36AM THREATENED BY THESE ACTIONS.
11:45:38AM I DON'T FEEL SAFE DRIVING BECAUSE GOD FORBID ONE OF THEM
11:45:44AM FALLS IN FRONT OF MY CAR.
11:45:45AM SO, AGAIN, EDUCATION IS KEY.
11:45:47AM INFRASTRUCTURE IS KEY.
11:45:48AM BICYCLISTS, PEDESTRIANS, AND VEHICLES CAN ALL TRAVEL IN
11:45:55AM HARMONY.
11:45:56AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:45:57AM COUNCIL, IT IS NOW 11:46.
11:46:07AM ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A HARD STOP AT 12:00?
11:46:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:46:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE YOU GO.
11:46:16AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE NUMBER CM 22-73043.
11:46:25AM >>OCEA WYNN: GOOD MORNING, OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF
11:46:32AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
11:46:33AM YOU ASKED FOR US TO REPORT BACK OF THE COMMITTEE OF THE
11:46:37AM WORLD WAR II VETERANS ADVISORY COUNCIL.
11:46:41AM I SUBMITTED A MEMO AND HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU
11:46:44AM MAY HAVE.
11:46:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:46:47AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:46:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE COMMITTEE.
11:46:50AM SHERISHA COULDN'T ANSWER IT YESTERDAY.
11:46:53AM HOW WILL YOU MAKE UP THAT COMMITTEE.
11:46:55AM COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:46:56AM A FEW FROM THE MAYOR?
11:46:58AM HOW WILL THAT AD HOC BE MADE UP.
11:47:01AM I HAVE A GOOD VETERAN MR. MELVIN COLLINS WHO DOES THE
11:47:05AM MEMORIAL VETERANS DAY PROGRAM IN WEST HAVEN AND THE EAST
11:47:11AM SIDE FOLKS THAT REALLY KNOW -- TO KNOW BE A PART OF THE
11:47:16AM QUESTION.
11:47:17AM WHAT IS THE MAKE-UP OF IT?
11:47:19AM >>OCEA WYNN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR THAT QUESTION.
11:47:22AM MAYBE I WASN'T CLEAR WHEN I PRESENTED BEFORE, BUT THE
11:47:26AM MAKE-UP OF THE COMMITTEE WILL COME FROM MEMBERS THAT YOU
11:47:29AM WILL SUBMIT TO ME THAT ARE INTERESTED OR YOU ARE INTERESTED
11:47:31AM IN SERVING ON THE ADVISORY COUNCIL.
11:47:33AM NOW PART OF THAT CARVE OUT OF THE SUBCOMMITTEE OR THE AD HOC
11:47:38AM COMMITTEE OF THE ADVISORY COUNCIL WILL BE THOSE INDIVIDUALS
11:47:41AM WHO WILL BE INTERESTED IN THE WORLD WAR II HISTORY, MAKING
11:47:45AM SURE WE KEEP THEIR STORIES ALIVE.
11:47:47AM SO THAT COMPONENT OF IT.
11:47:51AM SO, YES, YOU WILL SUBMIT YOUR NAMES TO ME SO WE CAN MOVE
11:47:55AM FORWARD WITH THE ADVISORY COUNCIL.
11:47:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:48:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR FOLLOWING UP WITH THIS AND
11:48:06AM PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
11:48:07AM FOR ANYBODY WATCHING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME.
11:48:11AM BEFORE TAMPA AIRPLANE, THE SOLDIERS HAD TO GO IN AND OUT OF
11:48:15AM TAMPA UNION STATION.
11:48:16AM WE WANT TO HONOR THEM AN TELL THEIR STORIES.
11:48:18AM MY REQUEST THAT WE GET GARY MORMINO INVOLVED.
11:48:23AM HE IS THE ONE THAT ORIGINALLY TOLD ME ABOUT THIS.
11:48:27AM HE INTERVIEWED OVER THE YEARS MANY WORLD WAR II VETERANS WHO
11:48:33AM WENT THROUGH TAMPA UNION STATION AND RESEARCHED THE ARCHIVES
11:48:36AM OF INCLUDING PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T RETURN.
11:48:37AM SO I THINK HE WOULD BE A GREAT RESOURCE THERE.
11:48:40AM THANK YOU.
11:48:40AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
11:48:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:48:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: I THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR HIS WORK AT
11:48:51AM UNION STATION.
11:48:52AM A GREAT PROJECT.
11:48:54AM I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ON ALL OF THAT.
11:48:56AM I HAVE DONE A MOTION FOR SOME TIME AGO A VETERAN ADVISORY
11:49:00AM BOARD FOR THE MAYOR UNLIKE -- NOT UNLIKE BUT WHAT WITH THE
11:49:04AM AFRICAN-AMERICAN ADVISORY BOARD AND HISPANIC ADVISORY BOARD.
11:49:08AM IS THAT WHAT THIS IS OR NARROWLY TO IT THE WW II.
11:49:15AM >>OCEA WYNN: IT HAS MORPHED VENUS.
11:49:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT WAS WHAT?
11:49:21AM >>OCEA WYNN: MORPHED.
11:49:22AM THIS COUNCIL IS LIKE THE OTHER ADVISORY COUNCILS.
11:49:25AM BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING IT AD HOC, A SUB COMPONENT OF THE
11:49:32AM VETERANS ADVISORY COUNCIL ARE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO
11:49:35AM SPECIFICALLY INTERESTED IN THE WORLD WAR II PORTION AND ANY
11:49:40AM OTHER AREA OF INTEREST FOR VETERANS IF WE HAVE A GROUP -- OR
11:49:45AM WHEN WE HAVE THE GROUP IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN THE CARVE
11:49:48AM OUT FROM THE ADVISORY COUNCIL, THEN THAT IS THE PURPOSE THAT
11:49:53AM IT WILL SERVE.
11:49:53AM IT IS ALL-INCLUSIVE, BUT THIS -- AFTER OUR REPORTED THE
11:49:57AM FIRST TIME, THE REQUEST WAS TO COME BACK TO SEE WHAT ARE
11:50:00AM THOSE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO OR PUT IN PLACE TO HAVE A
11:50:04AM GROUP SPECIFICALLY INTERESTED IN -- IN ENSURING THAT WE
11:50:08AM PRESERVE THE HISTORY AND THE STORIES OF THE WORLD WAR II
11:50:12AM VETERAN.
11:50:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: SURE.
11:50:14AM AND THE LARGER ISSUE IS COMING PACK TO US. I DON'T KNOW
11:50:18AM WHEN, BUT MAYBE IN A MONTH OR TWO OR WHAT NOT.
11:50:21AM ONE OF THINGS I ENVISION IS NOT UNLIKE THE MAYOR'S
11:50:27AM DISABILITY ALLIANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO HELP LEAD
11:50:31AM VETERAN ENDEAVORS.
11:50:32AM PATRIOTIC ENDEAVORS WITHIN THE CITY AND A LOT OF CEREMONIES
11:50:37AM AND DAYS LIKE PURPLE HEART DAY.
11:50:39AM HOW TO PROPERLY HONOR MEMORIAL DAY.
11:50:41AM FOR EXAMPLE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A COMMITTEE THAT HELPS TALK
11:50:44AM TO LOCAL BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA SAY IT, DAMN IT,
11:50:49AM DON'T DO MEMORIAL DAY SALE.
11:50:50AM MEMORIAL IS A SOLEMN DAY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
11:50:54AM I WOULD -- PARDON MY LANGUAGE.
11:50:56AM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THINGS LIKE THAT.
11:50:58AM BUT THAT'S GREAT.
11:50:59AM AND THE LARGER ONE IS COMING BACK, BUT I AM GLAD THEY ARE
11:51:03AM FOCUSING ON THIS.
11:51:04AM BECAUSE, AGAIN, I THANK THE COUNCILMAN FOR HIS WORK ON THIS
11:51:09AM BECAUSE THIS IS A MAGNIFICENT THING FOR UNION STATION AND
11:51:12AM THE RESTORATION OF UNION STATION AND ETC. IS A GREAT THING.
11:51:16AM ON THE LARGER ISSUE, IT IS SO CLOSE TO IT THE GEORGE
11:51:20AM EDGECOMB COURTHOUSE AND REALLY A GREAT PLACE WHERE ATTORNEYS
11:51:23AM AND IN BETWEEN THEIR MANY HEARINGS DOING THEM LIVE AND NOT
11:51:27AM BY ZOOM.
11:51:27AM I HATE ZOOM COURT HEARINGS.
11:51:29AM IF THEY ARE DOING IT LIVE, THEY CAN GO AND HANG OUT AT THE
11:51:33AM UNION STATION WHATEVER.
11:51:34AM COME BACK AND DO COURT.
11:51:35AM THANK YOU.
11:51:36AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
11:51:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:51:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE APPRECIATE THE COMMENT AND THANK YOU
11:51:42AM FOR COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
11:51:45AM I DON'T HAVE TO SAY IT, BUT WE KNOW IT.
11:51:48AM THIS IS THE GREATEST GENERATION THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
11:51:52AM WE ARE DOING THIS FOR A REASON.
11:51:53AM SADLY I WISH WE WOULD HAVE DONE IT SOONER BECAUSE ALL OF THE
11:51:57AM WORLD WAR II VETS EXCEPT ONE HAVE PASSED AWAY.
11:52:00AM THE STORIES THEY TELL.
11:52:02AM WAS DREW FIELD.
11:52:04AM OTHERS OUT OF UNION STATION ENDED UP IN THE PACIFIC.
11:52:07AM ON AND ON AND ON.
11:52:08AM I AM GLAD THAT WE BROUGHT THIS UP.
11:52:10AM I AM GLAD THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT THIS UP.
11:52:13AM YOU THINK ABOUT HOW OLD ARE THE YOUNGEST WORLD WAR II
11:52:17AM VETERANS BORN IN 1927, '28.
11:52:20AM THE WAR WAS OVER BY '45, BUT YOU HAD INDIVIDUALS -- A
11:52:24AM GENTLEMAN THAT PASSED AWAY IN THE LAST YEAR WHO WAS IN
11:52:28AM GERMANY IN 1946, WHEN YOU HAVE BERLIN AIR-LIFT.
11:52:32AM HE HAD A GREAT STORY TO TELL.
11:52:33AM AND UNFORTUNATELY, HE PASSED AWAY.
11:52:36AM TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND WE ARE LOSING THESE VETERANS
11:52:41AM RAPIDLY EVERY SINGLE DAY.
11:52:42AM WHEN I WAS A KID GROWING UP, MY GRANDPARENTS WERE ALL WORLD
11:52:47AM WAR II VETS AND KOREAN.
11:52:49AM THE VIETNAM VETS, THEY ARE GETTING UP THERE.
11:52:52AM AND I AM GLAD AS I HAVE GOTTEN OLDER I APPRECIATE THEM MORE
11:52:57AM AND LISTEN TO THEIR STORIES.
11:52:59AM ONCE YOU LOSE THEM, YOU LOSE THEM.
11:53:01AM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND I WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TWICE TO MEET WOODY
11:53:05AM WILLIAMS WHO PASSED AWAY IN THE LAST YEAR OUT OF WEST
11:53:08AM VIRGINIA.
11:53:08AM HE WAS THE LAST MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENT FOR ACTION
11:53:17AM ON IOO JIMA.
11:53:19AM THE GREAT AMERICAN HERO.
11:53:21AM WE ARE LOSING THEM DAILY.
11:53:24AM TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND WE CONTINUE TO SEE THESE
11:53:28AM INDIVIDUALS AND MAKING THEM A PART OF OUR STORY AND TELLING
11:53:31AM THAT STORY.
11:53:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:53:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING THIS
11:53:37AM RIGHT.
11:53:37AM LOOKING IN AREA SECTIONS OF THE CITY TO HONOR VETERANS.
11:53:41AM >>OCEA OWENS: THIS IS WHY I SAY IT MORPHED.
11:53:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: KOREAN AND -- WILL BE FOR VETS.
11:53:53AM >>OCEA WYNN: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:53:55AM LAST WEEK WE REPORTED -- SHERISHA HILLS AND I -- DIRECTOR
11:54:01AM HILLS AND I VOTED ON THE PROJECTS, ONE WAS ESTABLISHING
11:54:04AM VETERANS MEMORIAL IN EACH COUNCILMAN'S DISTRICT.
11:54:11AM THAT IS PART OF IT TOO.
11:54:14AM WHEN WE SAID MORPHED, DIFFERENT ANGLES TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
11:54:17AM LOOKING AT TAMPA UNION STATION.
11:54:19AM MAKE SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT HOLDING IT WORLD WAR II VETERANS
11:54:23AM ENSURING THAT THE STORIES ARE NOT LOST.
11:54:25AM YEAH, IT IS ALL-INCLUSIVE.
11:54:27AM YOU ARE CORRECT.
11:54:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HEARD KOREAN WAR -- IF A MEMORIAL FOR
11:54:32AM VETERANS, A MEMORIAL FOR VETERANS.
11:54:35AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
11:54:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:54:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE TRAINING OPERATION AT UNION STATION
11:54:43AM HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP TWO OR THREE TIMES.
11:54:45AM I WANT TO GO BACK IN HISTORY AND THANK THE GRECO
11:54:48AM ADMINISTRATION IN THE '90s DOING COMPLETE RENOVATION OF IT.
11:54:51AM WHAT YOU SEE THERE NOW WAS DONE AND THIS WAS '925, '96, AND
11:54:57AM '97 AREA 35 YEARS AGO.
11:54:59AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU FORGET WHEN YOU HAVE A
11:55:01AM BUILDING AND IT IS THERE AND IT IS JUST THERE AND NOBODY
11:55:04AM MAINTAINS IT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
11:55:06AM THAT IS WHEN YOU HAVE TO REDO IT AGAIN.
11:55:08AM BUT THANK YOU TO THE OLD ADMINISTRATION GOING BACK TO DICK
11:55:12AM GRECO.
11:55:13AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
11:55:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THAT WAS YOUR MOTION.
11:55:17AM DOES THE REPORT SATISFY YOU.
11:55:19AM >>OCEA WYNN: MAY I.
11:55:20AM MY FINAL ASK OF YOU IS IF YOU HAVE ANY NAMES OF ANYONE,
11:55:26AM PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME SO I CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS
11:55:29AM REPRESENTED ON THE ADVISORY COUNCIL.
11:55:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:55:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: THE ONE -- WE ALL KNOW THEM COLONEL DJ REYES,
11:55:43AM HEAD IN THE VETERANS TREATMENT COURT.
11:55:45AM HE SERVES WITH A LOT OF GOOD.
11:55:48AM KEITH POYNOR, STEPHANIE POYNOR'S HUSBAND.
11:55:55AM HE WAS A LIEUTENANT COLONEL.
11:55:57AM TWO THINGS, IF I MAY.
11:55:58AM NUMBER ONE, COUNCILMAN GUDES BRINGS UP SOMETHING VERY
11:56:01AM IMPORTANT WHICH IS TO MAKE -- OBVIOUSLY EVERYBODY KNOWS
11:56:03AM THIS.
11:56:04AM TO GET THIS ALL OVER THE CITY AND DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS,
11:56:07AM ETC., ETC., A GOOD GUY TO START WITH.
11:56:10AM THE HAWAIIAN CAPTAIN AMERICA.
11:56:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MELVIN COLLINS.
11:56:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:56:21AM THANK YOU, MISS WYNN.
11:56:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE AT THAT TIME WHERE WE WILL BE TAKING
11:56:28AM LUNCH.
11:56:28AM HOWEVER, WHEN WE COME BACK AT 1:30, WE WILL HEAR AGENDA ITEM
11:56:32AM NUMBER 95.
11:56:33AM THAT IS A 1:30 -- WELL, IT WILL JUST TAKE A FEW SECONDS AND
11:56:38AM I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE WITHDRAWN, BUT WE HAVE TO HEAR.
11:56:43AM UNTIL THEN ADJOURNED UNTIL 1:30.
11:56:46AM ...(MEETING IN RECESS)...
01:32:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU MIGHT WANT TO THE ROLL CALL.
01:32:50PM IF YOU DON'T MIND.
01:32:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL DO THE ROLL CALL AGAIN.
01:32:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:32:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
01:32:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
01:32:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:33:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M HERE AS WELL.
01:33:02PM CAN SOMEONE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
01:33:05PM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:33:07PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
01:33:09PM ALL IN FAVOR.
01:33:10PM AGAINST?
01:33:11PM MOTION PASSES.
01:33:12PM WE ARE GOING TO HEAR AGENDA NUMBER 95 FILE NUMBER SU
01:33:31PM 1-22-69-C.
01:33:31PM WE ARE NOT GOING TO HEAR OF THE REVIEW HEARING BUT HEAR FROM
01:33:35PM THE PETITIONER ONLY AT IN POINT.
01:33:37PM HE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT ITEM NUMBER 95.
01:33:41PM FILE NUMBER SU 1-22-69-C.
01:33:45PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
01:33:48PM >> ANDREW LAWRENCE.
01:33:50PM A RESIDENCE OF 3004 WEST CYPRESS AND PRESIDENT OF THE
01:33:55PM MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WHICH ENCOMPASSES BOTH.
01:33:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST SO WE CAN SET
01:34:00PM THE TIME LIMIT.
01:34:01PM MR. LAWRENCE, HOW LONG WILL THIS PRESENCE TAKE.
01:34:03PM >> LESS THAN THREE MINUTES, I BELIEVE.
01:34:05PM I TRY NOT TO HOLD THE TIME HOSTAGE.
01:34:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO COUNCIL IS AWARE, AND I HAVE --
01:34:14PM THERE HAS BEEN COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
01:34:16PM HAS BEEN COPIED.
01:34:17PM IF YOU SEE ON THE AGENDA, THIS E-MAIL FROM MR. LAWRENCE, THE
01:34:20PM PETITIONER, TRANSMITTING A LETTER REGARDING THIS REVIEW
01:34:24PM HEARING.
01:34:25PM BUT PRIOR TO THAT, THERE WAS AN E-MAIL FROM THE PETITIONER
01:34:30PM IT SHALL FROM THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF THE
01:34:33PM UNDERLYING SU 1 WHICH WAS SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD FOR THIS
01:34:37PM PETITION.
01:34:37PM THAT MATTER IS WITHDRAWN OR WILL BE ACCEPTED AS BEING
01:34:44PM WITHTRAIN BY THE ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THE -- THE LANDOWNER
01:34:49PM IN THAT CASE.
01:34:49PM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
01:34:51PM SO, COUNCIL, WHAT I AM ASKING TO YOU DO THEN IS TO THEN
01:34:55PM LISTEN TO MR. LAWRENCE IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE RECEIVED AND
01:34:58PM FILED INTO THE RECORD.
01:34:59PM ACTUALLY I HAVE BEEN INFORMED BY THE CLERK THAT ON THE
01:35:02PM AGENDA, BOTH THE MAILS HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED INTO THE RECORD
01:35:05PM AND WILL BE RECEIVED AND FILED AND DONE EITHER DURING NOW OR
01:35:08PM THE END OF THE MEETING EITHER WAY.
01:35:10PM WITH THAT BEING SAID.
01:35:12PM THIS HEARING WILL NOT BE HEARD AND THERE WILL BE A REQUEST
01:35:15PM FOR COUNCIL TO DEEM IT WITHDRAWN AND TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA
01:35:21PM WHEN THIS STATEMENT IS MADE.
01:35:22PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, IF WE ARE GOING TO WITHDRAWAL,
01:35:28PM WHY ARE WE HEARING ANYTHING.
01:35:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BECAUSE OF THE FACT THIS PETITIONER IS THIS
01:35:32PM GENTLEMAN HERE FOR THIS REVIEW HEARING.
01:35:36PM HE HAS NOT UNDERDROWN IT.
01:35:38PM THE MATTER OF WHICH YOU WOULD HAVE HEARD WOULD HAVE BEEN
01:35:45PM WITHDRAWN.
01:35:45PM IT IS MOOT.
01:35:47PM NO REASON FOR CONTROVERSY AND NO REASON FOR THE HEARING BUT
01:35:50PM THIS GENTLEMAN WANTED THE OPPORTUNITY TO IT BE HEARD AND
01:35:52PM WILL TAKE THREE MINUTES FOR HIM TO MAKE HIS RECORD AND
01:35:55PM COUNCIL CAN DEEM IT WITHDRAWN.
01:35:57PM AN UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN.
01:36:00PM >> THANK YOU.
01:36:02PM HONORABLE COUNCIL.
01:36:04PM ALTHOUGH IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT HAD THE UNDERLYING SPECIAL
01:36:07PM USE CASE IS WITHDRAWN, RENDERING THIS IF HE FOR MOOT, THE
01:36:13PM SPECIAL USE WILL BE IN THE RECORD AS WRITTEN AND CORRECT
01:36:15PM UNLESS SOME OTHER OFFICIAL REVIEW IS UNDERTAKEN.
01:36:18PM ALLOWING THE ERRONEOUS APPROVAL OF THE SPECIAL USE 1 PERMIT
01:36:22PM TO STAND SETS AN UNACCEPTABLE PRECEDENT FOR DEVELOPMENT
01:36:26PM COORDINATION STAFF FOR ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS THAT DO NOT
01:36:29PM ADHERE TO THE CITY'S LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
01:36:32PM THEREFORE, DURING LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION ERRONEOUS OF
01:36:36PM THESE.
01:36:37PM >> SPECIAL USE 1, THE FINAL REQUESTS FOR CITY ACTIONS ARE MADE.
01:36:41PM REQUEST THAT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS READ THE ATTACHED LETTER
01:36:45PM JANUARY 20, 2023 OF THE OTHER ROARS IN THE SPECIAL USE
01:36:50PM PERMIT.
01:36:50PM TWO, REQUEST THAT CITY COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF THAT ANY
01:36:54PM APPLICATIONS TO THERE ARE SITE OR ANY OTHER SITE BE
01:36:56PM PROCESSED AND REVIEWED DIRECTLY BY STAFF IN ACCORDANCE WITH
01:37:01PM CITY CODE.
01:37:01PM THREE, REQUEST THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PERSONALLY VERY
01:37:07PM SPECIALLY REVIEW THE SPECIAL USE ONE CASE AND ISSUE A
01:37:11PM WRITTEN REPORT ON THE PUBLIC RECORD IN 45 DAYS.
01:37:14PM FOUR AND FINAL, A REQUEST THAT IF THE CITY ATTORNEY FINDS
01:37:18PM THAT THERE WERE ERRORS MADE IN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S
01:37:22PM REVIEW OF APPROVAL OF SPECIAL USE 1, THE THAT THE CITY
01:37:28PM ATTORNEY WILL HAVE THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR TO REVOKE OR
01:37:31PM RESCIND THE 11/3/22 LETTERS DUE TO THE SPECIFIC LETTERS IN
01:37:38PM THE REVIEW AS CITED IN THE CITY OF ATTORNEY.
01:37:40PM SINCERELY ANDREW LAWRENCE, PRESIDENT OF THE MIDTOWN --
01:37:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. LAWRENCE, CAN YOU PLEASE, THE LETTER
01:37:49PM THAT YOU JUST READ FROM.
01:37:52PM PUT IT IN THE HANDS OF THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
01:37:55PM >> I HAVE A COPY SIGNED AND HANDED TO HIM.
01:37:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:37:59PM BEFORE YOU GO AWAY, RECEIVE AND FILE ANY LETTERS THAT HAVE
01:38:04PM BEEN COMMITTED.
01:38:05PM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
01:38:07PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
01:38:09PM ANY OBJECTION?
01:38:10PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:38:11PM MOTION PASSES.
01:38:11PM NOW I NEED TO HAVE A MOTION.
01:38:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO WITHDRAW.
01:38:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
01:38:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO WITHDRAW THE CASE BY COUNCILMAN
01:38:20PM GUDES.
01:38:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
01:38:22PM ALL IN FAVOR.
01:38:23PM ANY OPPOSED?
01:38:24PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MOTION PASSES.
01:38:25PM >> THANK YOU.
01:38:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO NUMBER
01:38:47PM 11 CM22-78960.
01:38:48PM WE HAVE A LONG AGENDA AHEAD OF US.
01:38:51PM >>VIK BHIDE: VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
01:38:53PM HERE TO ADDRESS ITEM NUMBER 11.
01:38:55PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
01:38:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA RELATED TO THE AREA AROUND
01:39:03PM CLEVELAND STREET AND CLARK AVENUE.
01:39:05PM SPECIFICALLY REQUESTING THE CITY TO CONSIDER A STORMWATER
01:39:11PM POND AT THE CORNER OF THESE TWO STREETS.
01:39:15PM A MEMO TO THAT EFFECT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED, BUT A QUICK
01:39:20PM BACKGROUND.
01:39:21PM THE CLEVELAND STREET DRAINAGE BASIN, WHICH IS, LIKE,
01:39:27PM 1,000-ACRE AREA IN GENERAL IS SERVE BY STORMWATER
01:39:32PM INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS CURRENTLY STRAINED, MEANING THE UNDER
01:39:35PM LYING INFRASTRUCTURE DOES NEED TO BE UPGRADED.
01:39:39PM TO THAT END, WE HAVE INITIATED LAST YEAR, THANK YOU TO
01:39:43PM COUNCIL FOR PASSING THE SAME, A GAP ANALYSIS WITH A
01:39:48PM CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP A WATER SHED MANAGEMENT PLAN MEANING
01:39:54PM WE WILL DO A GAP ANALYSIS WHAT NEEDS TO BE STUDY WITHIN THE
01:40:00PM CITY AND PRIORITIZE A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OF THE
01:40:05PM $251 MILLION PROGRAM.
01:40:06PM AS PART OF THAT, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL RAISE UP THE
01:40:12PM HIGHER PRIORITY.
01:40:13PM STORMWATER ON THIS ONE PROPERTY WILL NOT RESOLVE THE ISSUE
01:40:18PM FOR THE BASIN.
01:40:19PM WE REACHED OUT TO DOMAIN HOMES.
01:40:22PM RATHER DOMAIN HOMES REACHED OUT TO US ASKING US TO PURCHASE
01:40:26PM THIS PROPERTY.
01:40:27PM AND WE REFUSED BECAUSE, ONE, THE PROPERTY CAN STILL BE
01:40:31PM DEVELOPED, ALBEIT WITH RESTRICTIONS GIVEN IT IS ON THE
01:40:36PM ADVISORY LITTLE.
01:40:37PM AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BE ADDED TO THE HOUSING STOP
01:40:42PM AS WE BUILD UP OUR WATER SHED MANAGEMENT PLAN.
01:40:45PM THIS IS ALL DOCUMENTED IN THE MEMO.
01:40:48PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
01:40:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BHIDE.
01:40:54PM AT THIS POINT, THE CITY OWNS THE PARCEL.
01:40:57PM HAS DECIDED NOT TO SELL TO DOMAIN OR ANYBODY ELSE.
01:41:01PM FOR THE REASONS THAT YOU SPECIFIED, CORRECT?
01:41:05PM >>VIK BHIDE: ACTUALLY THE CITY DOES NOT OWN THE PARCEL.
01:41:09PM DOMAIN OWNS THE PARCEL.
01:41:10PM THEY ASKED THE CITY IF WE WOULD PURCHASE IT BECAUSE WE
01:41:14PM REFUSED BECAUSE IT CAN BE DEVELOPED.
01:41:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM SORRY, OKAY.
01:41:17PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:41:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
01:41:23PM THIS WAS.
01:41:25PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THIS REPORT?
01:41:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MEAN, WILL THE NEIGHBORHOOD BE HAPPY,
01:41:30PM NO.
01:41:30PM THESE ARE THE FACTS THAT -- THAT ARE THERE.
01:41:34PM AND YOU, SPECIFIED WHY.
01:41:36PM I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
01:41:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:41:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS.
01:41:47PM YOU SAID YOU WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A STUDY TO FIND THE GAPS.
01:41:52PM WHERE ARE YOU IN THE STUDY?
01:41:54PM WHEN CAN WE EXPECT TO GET ANSWERS FROM THE STUDY SO WE CAN
01:41:58PM -- SO WE CAN LET THIS COMMUNITY KNOW WHEN THEY WILL BE
01:42:00PM GETTING RELIEF.
01:42:02PM >> CORRECT.
01:42:04PM SO THERE ARE TWO PARTS.
01:42:05PM THE STUDY THAT WE HAVE INITIATED IS $160,000 WORK ORDER WITH
01:42:11PM THE CONSULTANT JUST TO DO THE GAP ANALYSIS.
01:42:16PM MEANING WHICH IS MODEL, WHICH IS NOT MODEL AND WHICH RISE
01:42:20PM TODAY PRIORITY.
01:42:21PM THE WATER SHED MANAGEMENT PLAN WILL BE A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR
01:42:25PM EFFORT OF MODELING THAT WILL TAKE ADDITIONAL TIME.
01:42:27PM SO IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, I
01:42:31PM WOULD SAY WE ARE AT LEAST A YEAR AND A HALF AWAY.
01:42:35PM TO GET RESULTS FROM THE GAP ANALYSIS ITSELF, WE WILL KNOW BY
01:42:39PM THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR OR SOONER.
01:42:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
01:42:44PM THANK YOU.
01:42:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
01:42:51PM THANK YOU.
01:42:52PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, FILE NUMBER CM 22-79132.
01:43:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SET THAT UP.
01:43:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY, MR. BHIDE, COUNCILkt WANTS TO SET IT
01:43:12PM UP.
01:43:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: SOMETHING I HAVE BEEN ASKING ABOUT FOR THREE
01:43:18PM YEARS.
01:43:18PM I HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS AND PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED
01:43:22PM DOWNTOWN BEING SHUT DOWN.
01:43:23PM I ASKED QUESTIONS AND NO ONE SEEMS TO KNOW WHERE THE PLAN
01:43:28PM CAME FROM.
01:43:28PM EITHER HAPHAZARDLY DONE OR USING A PLAN FROM TEN, 12 YEARS
01:43:34PM AGO.
01:43:35PM I TALKED TO THE LIGHTNING WHICH I THINK YOU HAVE TALKED TO.
01:43:37PM DOWNTOWN HAS BECOME MORE OF A DOWNTOWN.
01:43:40PM ALL THESE ASSETS.
01:43:42PM MULTIPLE THINGS GOING ON.
01:43:44PM PEOPLE TRYING TO GET TO RESTAURANTS AND DIFFERENT PARTS OF
01:43:50PM DOWNTOWN AND THIS SHUTS DOWN DOWNTOWN.
01:43:53PM EVEN GETTING OUT OF CITY HALL ON CERTAIN NIGHTS, THE
01:43:56PM LIGHTNING DIDN'T ASK FOR THESE ROADS TO BE SHUT TOWN.
01:43:59PM SEEMS TO ME THAT MODERN CITIES DON'T SHUT DOWN ALL THE
01:44:03PM STREETS.
01:44:04PM I WAS AT AN ARENA IN L.A. AND I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE
01:44:08PM STREETS BEING SHUT DOWN AROUND IT.
01:44:10PM SO I KNOW YOU ARE TALKING TO EVERYBODY.
01:44:12PM I WILL JUST ASK IN ADDITION TO IT THE LIGHTNING, SOME OF
01:44:15PM THESE BUILDINGS ARE OWNED BY THE SAME PEOPLE AND WE HAVE
01:44:20PM NEED TO TALK TO THE CONVENTION CENTER AND HARBOUR ISLAND,
01:44:24PM MARE I DON'T THE, JW, THE HOTELS DOWN THERE AND TALK TO THE
01:44:31PM AQUARIUM AND PEOPLE AROUND DOWNTOWN AND CITY HALL.
01:44:34PM YOU CAN'T GET THAT WAY, IT IS VERY DISRUPTIVE.
01:44:38PM OTHER THING COMING OFF THE SELMON.
01:44:41PM IF YOU ARE TOO IG TO GO TO SOUTH TAMPA AND COMING WEST ON
01:44:44PM THE SELMON.
01:44:46PM YOU GET OFF WEST IN DOWNTOWN AND IT DIRECTS TO YOU THE
01:44:49PM NORTHERN PART OF DOWNTOWN AND YOU GOT TO TURN AROUND AND
01:44:52PM COME BACK.
01:44:53PM NONE OF THAT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE.
01:44:54PM SEEMS LIKE WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS CAUSING MORE CONGESTION.
01:44:57PM I WILL LET YOU TALK NOW.
01:45:00PM THANK YOU.
01:45:01PM >>VIK BHIDE: COUNCIL AND I AGREE ON EVERYTHING.
01:45:03PM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT FOR NUMBER 12.
01:45:09PM AS FAR AS THE ARENA IS CONCERNED AND I WILL GO THERE AND
01:45:14PM ADDRESS DIFFERENT EVENTS AS WELL.
01:45:15PM AS FAR AS THE ARENA IS CONCERNED.
01:45:20PM COUNCILMAN, YOU ARE RIGHT.
01:45:22PM WE HAD PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE LIGHTNING.
01:45:24PM AND WE ARE WORKING WITH THE LIGHTNING AND TPD AND OTHER
01:45:28PM PARTNERS TO LOOK HOW WE NEED TO ADAPT OPERATIONS FOR A
01:45:34PM DIFFERENT DOWNTOWN.
01:45:35PM OUR DOWNTOWN HAS CHANGED.
01:45:36PM AND ESPECIALLY DURING THE INBOUND FOR CERTAIN ARENA EVENTS,
01:45:43PM THERE IS AN IMPACT TO ALL OF DOWNTOWN IN SUPPORT OF ARENA
01:45:46PM OPERATIONS.
01:45:47PM SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT IS REDUCING
01:45:54PM THAT SPHERE OF INFLUENCE MAINLY SOUTH OF CUMBERLAND SO THAT
01:45:58PM THE REST OF DOWNTOWN, ESPECIALLY THE OFFICE AREAS NORTH OF
01:46:02PM THERE IN OUR DOWNTOWN CORE ARE FREE TO MOVE AROUND UNDER
01:46:07PM REGULAR PATTERNS.
01:46:08PM WE HAVE TO BALANCE THIS WITH PARKING OPERATIONS.
01:46:11PM TYPICALLY THE SOURCE OF CONGESTION AND OTHER THINGS AS WELL
01:46:17PM WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT ROAD CLOSURES.
01:46:19PM FOR EXAMPLE, ROAD CLOSURES NORTH OF CUMBERLAND OR OTHER
01:46:25PM CLOSURES AS WELL ONE OF THE THINGS BY AGREEMENT WITH THE
01:46:30PM TAMPA SPORTS AUTHORITY IS 150-FOOT PERIMETER AROUND THE
01:46:35PM ARENA.
01:46:36PM THIS IS STANDARD NHL PRACTICE FOR MOST ARENAS.
01:46:40PM A SECURITY PERIMETER THAT ULTIMATELY LAW ENFORCEMENT
01:46:44PM DETERMINES WHAT SORT OF CLOSURES OR WHAT SORT OF MEASURES TO
01:46:48PM TAKE THERE.
01:46:48PM SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE ARENA.
01:46:51PM AND WE DO RECOGNIZE YOUR POINT IS VERY WELL TAKEN.
01:46:54PM WE ARE A DIFFERENT DOWNTOWN TODAY.
01:46:56PM AND WE CONTINUE TO GROW.
01:46:58PM AND WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THAT.
01:47:00PM JUST LOOKING AT WATER STREET PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO COMING
01:47:05PM UP.
01:47:06PM AS FAR AS OTHER EVENTS, WE WILL RECESS WHAT KIND OF CLOSURES
01:47:13PM ARE THE BARE MINIMUM NECESSARY TO FACILITATE TRAFFIC.
01:47:18PM AND WHERE CAN WE THEN MAKE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO
01:47:21PM REDIRECT TRAFFIC AND SIGNAL TIMING IS A BIG PART OF THIS.
01:47:26PM THAT IS THE SOURCE OF THE DELAY AS WELL.
01:47:30PM WE ARE TAKING A LOOK AT THIS AND WILL BE HAPPY TO COME BACK
01:47:34PM IN 90 DAYS IF THAT WORKS WITH COUNCIL.
01:47:37PM AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE.
01:47:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU WANT ME TO SCHEDULE THAT?
01:47:46PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
01:47:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN IS 90 DAYS.
01:47:48PM CAN WE DO IT BEFORE MAY 1?
01:47:51PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE, SOME TIME IN APRIL WORKS.
01:47:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE AN UPDATE ON THE TRAFFIC
01:47:58PM CLOSURES IN DOWNTOWN TO BE SCHEDULED ON APRIL 20 DURING
01:48:04PM STAFF REPORT.
01:48:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:48:08PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:48:10PM ANY DISCUSSION?
01:48:12PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:48:13PM ANY OBJECTION?
01:48:16PM THE MOTION PASSES VICK VICK THANK YOU.
01:48:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, CM 23-79136.
01:48:29PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN.
01:48:34PM GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
01:48:35PM ADRI COLINA, DIRECTOR OF LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.
01:48:41PM I'M HERE ON ITEM 13.
01:48:43PM THE MOTION MADE BY CHAIRMAN CITRO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
01:48:47PM MIRANDA.
01:48:47PM AND ASKED FOR STAFF AND DPR TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE
01:48:52PM APPRENTICESHIP PARTICIPATION IN THE HANNAN STREET PROJECT.
01:48:57PM TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE FLORIDA STATE CERTIFIED.
01:49:01PM SO I AM PROUD TO STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH A VERY GOOD
01:49:04PM NEWS STORY.
01:49:05PM DPR, AS YOU MIGHT RECALL, ENTEREDED INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE
01:49:10PM CITY OF TAMPA THAT PREDATES THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
01:49:15PM THEY ARE WILLINGLY ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS BECAUSE THEY
01:49:19PM BELIEVE IN IT.
01:49:20PM THEY BELIEVE IN INVEST THE FUTURE OF THE CONSTRUCTION
01:49:25PM INDUSTRY.
01:49:25PM THEY BELIEVE IN DEVELOPING OUR WORKFORCE.
01:49:27PM I WANT TO COMMEND DPR BECAUSE THEY HAVE ABOVE AND BEYOND IN
01:49:33PM THIS AREA AND OTHERS RECOGNIZE THE CITY WORK FORCE
01:49:37PM DEVELOPMENT AND BRENDAN M[L]CKENZIE.
01:49:41PM WE WORKED CLOSELY WITH BRYNN AND OUR OWNER'S REP TO PROVIDE
01:49:48PM YOU WITH THE DATA I AM GOING TO PROVIDE YOU NOW.
01:49:50PM AS FAR AS THE NUMBERS AND THE PARTICIPATION, TO DATE, WE HAD
01:49:53PM 26 APPRENTICES PARTICIPATE IN OUR PROGRAM.
01:49:55PM THREE OF WHICH YOU SAW EARLIER TODAY.
01:49:58PM AND IT IS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE TOMMY AND TREY AND ASHANTE
01:50:06PM THAT DPR DOES THIS AND SO PASSIONATE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
01:50:14PM AS FAR AS THE PROS ARE FLORIDA STATE CERTIFIED.
01:50:18PM I WANT TO REASSURE YOU AND MAKE COMPLETELY CONFIDENT A ALL
01:50:23PM THIS OF THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS IN HANNAN ARE RECOGNIZED
01:50:28PM BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
01:50:29PM I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
01:50:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE WE GO FORWARD, I REQUESTED THAT
01:50:36PM REPRESENTATIVES FROM DPR ARE HERE.
01:50:39PM DO WE HAVE ANY REPRESENTATIVES FROM DPR?
01:50:43PM >> DPR WAS WITH ME ALL MORNING AND THEY HAD OTHER MEETINGS
01:50:47PM AND SHUFFLING THEM AROUND TO STAY.
01:50:50PM BUT BECAUSE IN THE AFTERNOON THEY ARE NOT WITH ME, BUT I AM
01:50:54PM ABLE TO PROVIDE ANSWERS.
01:50:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
01:50:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:50:59PM YOU ANSWERED A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I HAD.
01:51:01PM REGISTERED APPRENTICES, 26, YOU SAID.
01:51:04PM ARE THEY STATE CERTIFIED.
01:51:06PM YOU SAID YES.
01:51:07PM BUT I DID ASK A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THIS MORNING OF THE
01:51:10PM INDIVIDUALS THAT CAME UP AND SMOKE.
01:51:12PM AND IT WAS, DO YOU LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY?
01:51:15PM DO YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
01:51:19PM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING A 100-PLUS MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT
01:51:23PM WHICH IS A HUGE INVESTMENT.
01:51:24PM I WATCHED THE CONSTRUCTION ON HANNA.
01:51:27PM I GO BY.
01:51:29PM THE GATES ARE CLOSED.
01:51:30PM I DON'T GO ON THE PROPERTY AND IT IS BEAUTIFUL.
01:51:33PM SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE VERY PROUD OF; HOWEVER, IN
01:51:36PM LOOKING AT THAT COMMUNITY, LOOKING AT EAST TAMPA.
01:51:39PM LET'S CALL IT EAST TAMPA AND PARTS OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS,
01:51:44PM WHATEVER, SOMEBODY SAID, YOU KNOW, WHAT MATTERS MOST IS
01:51:49PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
01:51:50PM PEOPLE CARE ABOUT -- WE GET ASKED A LOT POLITICALLY, WHAT
01:51:54PM ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT JOBS.
01:51:55PM WE ARE NOT JOB CREATORS.
01:51:56PM IN THIS OPPORTUNITY AND THIS SITUATION, WE HAVE THE
01:52:00PM OPPORTUNITY WITH THESE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM TO LOOK AT
01:52:04PM LOCAL INDIVIDUALS, IS FULL OF HIGH SCHOOLS AND YOUNG PEOPLE
01:52:12PM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SURROUNDING FELLED WITH YOUNG PEOPLE.
01:52:15PM THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM IS IMPORTANT.
01:52:19PM COLLEGE IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY.
01:52:20PM NOT EVERYBODY CAN GO TO COLLEGE OR WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE OR
01:52:25PM CAN AFFORD TO GO TO COLLEGE.
01:52:27PM AND THEY NEED TO WITH THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM LEARNING A
01:52:32PM SKILL AND TRADE FROM TAMPA, TO CALIFORNIA AND WHATEVER.
01:52:34PM NO ONE CAN EVER TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THEM.
01:52:40PM THE IMPORTANCE, ARE YOU FROM TAMPA.
01:52:41PM ARE YOU FROM THE COMMUNITY.
01:52:42PM THE YOUNG LADY DID ANSWER SHE DID.
01:52:44PM THE FIRST TWO INDIVIDUALS WERE NOT.
01:52:46PM MY THING IS, WHY WEREN'T PEOPLE SOURCED LOCALLY.
01:52:54PM I AM NOT SAYING THEY DIDN'T, BUT WHY NOT GET YOUNG PEOPLE
01:52:58PM WHO CAN WALK TO THE HANNA PROJECT.
01:53:01PM I LIVE HERE AND I CAN SAY I HAD A HAND TO BUILD THIS.
01:53:06PM I WAS YOUNG AND MAKING GOOD MONEY, BUT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO
01:53:10PM DRIVE DOWN HANNA, DRIVE PAST THAT PROJECT AND SAY I BUILT
01:53:15PM THIS WHEN I WAS 18, 20 YEARS OLD.
01:53:18PM THAT IS MY CONCERN.
01:53:19PM WHY WASN'T IS LOCALLY SOURCED TALENT.
01:53:21PM LOCALLY SOURCED INDIVIDUALS.
01:53:24PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE AND WE HAVE
01:53:26PM AGGRESSIVELY TRIED TO DO AND WORKED VERY HARD.
01:53:30PM YOU HEARD FROM ASHANTE.
01:53:32PM LIKE ASHANTE, STEVEN, WORK THE PARKING GARBAGE.
01:53:39PM HE IS NOT APPRENTICESHIP, BUT HE IS WORK.
01:53:45PM HIS GRANDMOTHER VISITS THE SITE.
01:53:47PM I JOKE BECAUSE A SUPERINTENDENT ON THE JOB, A BONUS BECAUSE
01:53:50PM COMES BY SURPRISED TO SEE THE PROGRESS.
01:53:52PM LAST FRIDAY DPR HELD A JOB FAIR RIGHT IN THE COMMUNITY.
01:53:56PM I WENT WITH THE CENTER.
01:54:02PM THEY HAD 50 PEOPLE APPLY AND TODAY DPR AS WE SPEAK, MUCH A
01:54:08PM COUPLE OF THEM WHO FOLLOWED THROUGH ON THAT OPPORTUNITY.
01:54:11PM MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO APPLY AS WELL AS SIGNAGE AT THE
01:54:18PM CITY CENTER IN HANNA AVENUE.
01:54:20PM WE, TOO, ARE AGGRESSIVE AND WANT THAT BE LOCAL AND DEVELOP
01:54:25PM AS MANY THAT WE CAN.
01:54:26PM THAT GENTLEMAN THIS MORNING, TOMMY, WHO LIVES IN LAKELAND,
01:54:29PM HOPEFULLY HE CAN GET THAT STEADY INCOME STREAM AND BEEN A
01:54:33PM TAMPA RESIDENT AS WELL AND MOVE OUR WAY AND BE CLOSER TO THE
01:54:37PM PROJECT.
01:54:38PM WE ARE TRYING, BUT REMEMBER THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T REQUIRE
01:54:41PM THEY LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE APPRENTICESHIP
01:54:44PM ORDINANCE.
01:54:45PM WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, COMPLY WITH THE
01:54:48PM ORDINANCE AND BE IMPACTFUL AND WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY.
01:54:53PM WE APPRECIATE THAT.
01:54:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T REQUIRE BUT A TOP
01:54:58PM PRIORITY WHEN YOU ARE INVESTING 100 PLUS MILLION IN THE
01:55:02PM COMMUNITY.
01:55:02PM ENOUGH IT GO AROUND FOR EVERYBODY AND NO REASON THAT THEY
01:55:06PM ARE NOT -- THESE APPRENTICES ARE -- HIS GRANDMOTHER LIVES
01:55:11PM AROUND THE CORNER.
01:55:11PM PEOPLE LIVE DOWN THE STREET.
01:55:13PM KNOW THAT THEY, WITH PRIDE, CAN SAY I HAD A HAND IN BUILDING
01:55:17PM THAT.
01:55:22PM I DRIVE HOME AND WITH MY OWN HAND, A PROJECT I WAS PROUD OF.
01:55:29PM THE PATHWAY TO THE AMERICAN DREAM.
01:55:31PM THIS IS THAT.
01:55:32PM ESPECIALLY AT THIS HISTORIC INVESTMENT.
01:55:36PM $100-PLUS MILLION DOLLAR DOES NOT COME AROUND ALL THE TIME.
01:55:39PM ONE OF THE LARGEST PROJECTS WE HAVE TO SPEND OUR MONEY ON
01:55:43PM AND MAKE IT AS POSSIBLE TO LIFT UP OUR OWN COMMUNITY.
01:55:47PM AND GIVE THEM A PAST TO A BETTER LIFE.
01:55:50PM A PATH TO THE AMERICAN DREAM AND CONTINUE ON THIS.
01:55:53PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:55:56PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THANK YOU.
01:55:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:55:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:56:00PM THE NEXT ROUND -- I AM SURE YOU CONTACTED ERWIN TECHNICAL
01:56:05PM SCHOOL AT HILLSBOROUGH AND 22nd IN TAMPA STARTED AND USED TO BE
01:56:10PM A FEDERAL PROGRAM ON THE OLD BUFFALO AVENUE SCHOOL AND THAT
01:56:14PM WHAT IT WAS CAUSED.
01:56:15PM A BLOCK AND A HALF AWAY FROM NEBRASKA ON MLK.
01:56:20PM THAT SCHOOL SINCE BEEN TORN DOWN, BUT THAT WAS THE
01:56:23PM PREDECESSOR OF THIS, ERWIN TECHNICAL USE TO BE THE OLD SEARS
01:56:30PM AND ROEBUCK AND I AM SURE THEY HAVE KIDS LEARNING TO DO
01:56:34PM CERTAIN THINGS.
01:56:34PM I AM NOT SAYING -- IT IS A TECHNICAL SCHOOL.
01:56:37PM SO I KNOW YOU CONTACTED THEM.
01:56:39PM I HOPE YOU HAVE AND A GOOD SOURCE.
01:56:47PM THEY NEED WORK AFTER OURS.
01:56:50PM AND THAT YOU ARE FOR THOSE LOOKING FOR A HAND UP, NOT A HAND
01:56:54PM DOWN.
01:56:54PM THANK YOU.
01:56:54PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:56:57PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
01:56:58PM I HAVE BEEN ON-SITE.
01:56:59PM WE MET WITH THE TEAM OVER AT ERWIN AND WE WANT TO ENGAGE
01:57:03PM THEM NOT ONLY NOW, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAYOR CASTOR THAT
01:57:07PM WE KEEP THEM ALONG THE WAY.
01:57:08PM THEY HAVE MECHANIC PROGRAMS AND ELECTRICIAN, PLUMBING, WE
01:57:13PM ARE HOPING TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN NOT ONLY ON THE HANNA
01:57:16PM PROJECT BUT AS CITY EMPLOYEES LONG TERM.
01:57:19PM YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN, I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN ON THAT.
01:57:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:57:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:57:25PM YOU SAID THERE HAVE BEEN 26 APPRENTICES, CORRECT?
01:57:31PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YES, MA'AM.
01:57:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE THEY ALL STILL WITH THE PROJECT.
01:57:35PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: NO, SOME OF THEM ARE NOT BECAUSE THEY
01:57:37PM MOVED ON.
01:57:38PM STEELWORKERS, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS SO MUCH STEEL TO ERECT.
01:57:44PM ONCE THEY FINISH THE PROJECT AT HANNA, THEY ARE STILL IN THE
01:57:49PM PROGRAM.
01:57:49PM APPRENTICESHIP LASTS TWO TO FIVE YEARS.
01:57:54PM WHEN HANNA IS FINISHED, THEY ARE STILL GETTING THE PEN FITS
01:58:00PM OF FROM THE PROGRAM AND INVESTING AND GROWING.
01:58:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I WOULD LOVE -- YOU HAVE GOTTEN THESE
01:58:06PM QUESTIONS AND I WILL SEND THEM AGAIN.
01:58:07PM AND I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES TALKED ABOUT MAKING A
01:58:11PM MOTION.
01:58:11PM IF HE DOESN'T, I WILL.
01:58:13PM OR I WILL SECOND IT.
01:58:14PM I DO WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY ARE STILL WORKING IF THEY ARE NOT
01:58:24PM AT HANNA, WHERE ARE WE NOW.
01:58:26PM NOT AT HANNA AND THE COMPANY THEY WERE WORKING FOR.
01:58:30PM IS THE APPRENTICESHIP FINISHED?
01:58:33PM ARE THEY DONE?
01:58:34PM I REALLY HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT CLASS.
01:58:37PM THE FOLKS THAT CAME TODAY WERE VAGUE ABOUT CLASS.
01:58:40PM HOW MUCH TIME THEY WERE SPENDING IN CLASS.
01:58:42PM WE NEED TO KNOW THAT THE HOURS THEY ARE SPENDING IN CLASS
01:58:46PM AND THE HOURS THEY ARE SPENDING ON THE JOB.
01:58:48PM TO BECOME A JOURNEYMAN, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO -- YOU
01:58:52PM HAVE TO SATISFY BOTH.
01:58:53PM SO I AM EXPECTING TO SEE THE HOURS ON THE JOB AND THE HOURS
01:58:57PM IN THE CLASSROOM AND HOW THOSE CORRESPOND WITH ONE ANOTHER.
01:59:01PM I WOULD LIKE THAT INFORMATION.
01:59:02PM AND I WOULD LIKE ALL OF THIS BROKEN DOWN BY TRADE.
01:59:05PM HOW MANY APPRENTICES.
01:59:07PM HOW MANY OF THOSE 26 APPRENTICES.
01:59:10PM WHAT TYPE OF APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
01:59:12PM I WILL BE HONEST, THIS IS A VERY LOW NUMBER FOR ME.
01:59:16PM I KNOW THEY WEREN'T REQUIRED TO DO THIS BUT 26 FOR A
01:59:20PM $1.8-PLUS MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT IS NOT NEARLY ENOUGH.
01:59:23PM I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED AT LEAST TWICE THAT.
01:59:26PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.
01:59:29PM I AM ALSO CURIOUS IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY EXEMPTIONS FOR
01:59:36PM THINK TRADES OR CRAFTS ON THE PROJECT.
01:59:38PM I KNOW THAT ANY PROJECT UNDER $1 MILLION IS EXEMPT FROM A
01:59:43PM LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
01:59:43PM ARE THERE ANY CRAFTS OR TRADES IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT
01:59:46PM THAT THAT DPR HAS REQUESTED EXEMPTIONS FOR?
01:59:51PM AND THEN -- OH, I AM SORRY, GOING BACK TO THE CLASSES.
01:59:55PM I AM ALSO CURIOUS WHETHER THE CLASSES ARE DONE IN PERSON,
01:59:59PM ONLINE OR A HYBRID OF BOTH.
02:00:01PM BECAUSE THAT MATTERS.
02:00:03PM A LOT OF THESE HANDS-ON FOLKS -- THAT ARE LEARNING A
02:00:09PM HANDS-ON TRADE ARE MORE IN-PERSON KIND OF PEOPLE.
02:00:12PM I AM CURIOUS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONLINE.
02:00:15PM IF IT IS AN ONLINE COURSE, WHO IS TEACHING THAT COURSE.
02:00:19PM STILL IN HCC OR SOMEONE LOCAL OR HAVE THEY PUT THAT OUT TO
02:00:25PM SAY A NATIONAL COMPANY.
02:00:26PM SO I AM CURIOUS ABOUT ALL THIS.
02:00:28PM AGAIN, YOU HAVE THESE QUESTIONS AND I AM HAPPY TO PROVIDE
02:00:33PM THEM AGAIN FOR YOU.
02:00:34PM BUT BASICALLY WHAT I WANT IS MORE SPECIFICS ABOUT THIS
02:00:37PM PROJECT AND HOW THE APPRENTICESHIP IS -- IS ACTUALLY GOING.
02:00:42PM BECAUSE THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE
02:00:44PM LOOKING FOR IN FURTHER APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS.
02:00:48PM ME PERSONALLY, I AM GOING TO EXPECT A BREAKDOWN AND I AM
02:00:56PM VERY DISAPPOINTED WE ONLY HAVE 26 APPRENTICES.
02:00:59PM I THINK WE COULD HAVE DONE BETTER THAN THAT.
02:01:03PM >>ADRIANA COLINA'; THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:01:05PM SO I WANT TO JUST REMIND YOU THAT HAD THE APPRENTICESHIP
02:01:09PM REQUIREMENT OVERALL IS IN THE TOTALITY OF THE PROJECT.
02:01:12PM SO WHEN YOU THINK WE JUST BEGAN THE PROJECT IN JANUARY OF
02:01:17PM 2022.
02:01:17PM AND THE FIRST FEW MONTHS OF THE PROJECT WAS SORT OF
02:01:20PM REMEDIATION.
02:01:21PM SO THERE WAS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR APPRENTICES AT THAT TIME.
02:01:25PM THEN WE HAD THE STEEL AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
02:01:28PM NOW IT IS STILL VERY MUCH AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION SITE.
02:01:31PM WE FULLY INTEND TO ADD TO THAT NUMBER AS ALLOWED AND ARE
02:01:36PM ABLE TO GET.
02:01:36PM AND NOW WE ARE WORKING INTO THE INTERIOR SIDE OF IT.
02:01:40PM I CAN TELL WITH YOU COMPLETE CONFIDENCE, MEET OR EXCEED THAT
02:01:45PM 12% AT THE END OF THE PROJECT.
02:01:47PM SO HAVE FAITH.
02:01:48PM WE WILL DEFINITELY GET THERE.
02:01:50PM WE ARE AGGRESSIVELY WORKING.
02:01:52PM WE, TOO, WANT MORE PARTICIPATION.
02:01:54PM I AM GOING TO TRY TO ANSWER ALL OF THE QUESTIONS.
02:01:57PM I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT.
02:01:59PM WE JUST RECEIVED THESE QUESTIONS THIS MORNING.
02:02:01PM AS FAR AS WHERE THEY ATTEND CLASS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE
02:02:03PM ORDINANCE DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT WE GIVE THAT SPECIFIC
02:02:07PM INFORMATION.
02:02:07PM AND SO, WE DON'T ASK THAT.
02:02:10PM IT IS NOT IN THE REPORT.
02:02:11PM I DO KNOW JUST BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WITH DPR.
02:02:15PM THEY ARE IN A HYBRID.
02:02:16PM MANY WAYS IN WHICH.
02:02:17PM THEY ARE ONLINE.
02:02:19PM THEY ARE IN PERSON.
02:02:20PM BUT THE ON-THE-JOB TRAINING OCCURS AT THE CITY CENTER IN
02:02:29PM HANNA.
02:02:29PM OF THE ENROLLED APPRENTICES, HOW MANY ARE ENROLLED IN THE
02:02:35PM PROGRAM.
02:02:35PM TO DATE, WE ONLY HEAR ONE THAT IS NO LONGER WITH THE
02:02:40PM PROGRAM, IT WAS A CARPENTER.
02:02:43PM ON-SITE AT HANNA, WE HAVE 16.
02:02:45PM SOME HAVE MOVED ON LIKE THE ONE THAT CAME TO YOU FROM GMF
02:02:50PM THIS MORNING.
02:02:50PM AS FAR AS THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, WE HAVE DPR WHICH IS A
02:02:56PM STATE-RECOGNIZED PROGRAM.
02:02:58PM THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CARPENTRY APPRENTICESHIP
02:03:02PM PROGRAM.
02:03:02PM WE HAVE ACKERMAN PLUMBING.
02:03:05PM THEY HAVE A PROGRAM, A FLORIDA CERTIFIED PROGRAM.
02:03:11PM GMS STEEL WHICH THANK IS CERTIFIED THAT DOES OUR STEELWORK
02:03:16PM OR DID THE STEELWORK.
02:03:17PM AND APG ELECTRICAL, ALSO ANOTHER STATE CERTIFIED PROGRAM.
02:03:23PM I BELIEVE I HAVE ANSWERED THE QUEST YOU HAVE, BUT IF NOT,
02:03:28PM PLEASE, PLEASE ASK AGAIN.
02:03:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW MANY HOURS IN CLASS AND HOW MANY ARE ON
02:03:35PM THE JOB.
02:03:36PM THAT IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.
02:03:38PM AND, AGAIN, IF YOU CAN'T ANSWER IT TODAY, THIS IS ONE OF THE
02:03:41PM QUESTIONS I WILL ASK TO BE ANSWERED.
02:03:43PM BECAUSE THE CLASSWORK AND THE ON-THE-JOB WORK HAVE TO GO
02:03:50PM HAND IN HAND AND WE ARE NOT HELPING THESE APPRENTICES BECOME
02:03:53PM JOURNEYMEN AND WOMEN.
02:03:56PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE
02:03:58PM ORDINANCE ON THE TOP OF THE END.
02:04:00PM I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT INFORMATION IS REQUIRED TO BE
02:04:04PM COLLECTED.
02:04:04PM IF WE CAN, WE CERTAINLY WILL PROVIDE IT FOR YOU.
02:04:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:04:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:04:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE.
02:04:18PM NOT A SIMPLE ORDINANCE BUT THE ELEMENTS FOR CONTRACTS OVER
02:04:23PM $$1 MILLION, 12% OF YOUR WORK FORCE COME FROM A STATE
02:04:26PM CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
02:04:28PM AND IF THE CONTRACTOR OR SPECIFIC TRADE OR JOB HAS DONE WHAT
02:04:33PM THEY SHOULD BE IN GOOD FAITH EVIDENT, ACCOMMODATION AND
02:04:37PM APPLY IN THE STATUTE, THEY GET A PART OF THE FUNDS WITHHOLD
02:04:44PM EARLY SO THE CITY HAS SKIN IN THE GAME.
02:04:46PM THE BASIS FOR THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM AND CONTRACT.
02:04:51PM WHEN WE WORKED IT OUT JIM JENETCO, A WONDERFUL GUY, WAS
02:04:59PM THERE AT THE MEETINGS AND LOOKING AT SOMEWHAT ST. PETERSBURG
02:05:03PM DID AND IN LIT FACE AND THEY PASSED TWO ORDINANCES.
02:05:07PM I BELIEVE IN ONE, BUT TWO BIG IDEAS.
02:05:11PM PUT SKIN IN THE GAME FOR CITY OF TAMPA AND WENT FORWARD WITH
02:05:17PM IT TO BE A REAL GOOD COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.
02:05:20PM AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT IT IS.
02:05:22PM ALWAYS SAID WE NEED TO HAVE STRICT FIDELITY FOR A STATE
02:05:28PM CERTIFIED APPRENTICESHIP AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONTRACTORS
02:05:32PM WHO DON'T HAVE THOSE PROGRAMS.
02:05:33PM THEN THEY CREATE THOSE PROGRAMS THAT THEY ARE STATE
02:05:36PM CERTIFIED.
02:05:37PM THEY ARE QUALITY.
02:05:38PM AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT WORK FORCE TRAINING
02:05:42PM DONE WITHIN THE CONTRACTING PROCESS.
02:05:44PM I KIND OF THINK THAT PART OF THE CHALLENGE ON THIS
02:05:49PM PARTICULAR JOB IS SOME OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACTORS THAT WITH
02:05:53PM THE HANNA PROJECT AND THE CITY COUNCIL AND SCRUTINY OUTSIDE
02:05:58PM WHICH IS A LOT OF DOUBTS ON IT.
02:05:59PM I THINK THE MAIN THING IS TO NOT JUST KEEP ON EYE ON THIS
02:06:04PM PROJECT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE STRICT FIDELITY WITH THE LAW AS
02:06:08PM APPLIED HERE BECAUSE IF -- IF I BELIEVE IT WASN'T APPLICABLE
02:06:13PM TO THIS.
02:06:14PM BUT IS THERE VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE OR AM I --
02:06:19PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YOU ARE RIGHT.
02:06:20PM THEY ARE VOLUNTARILY COMPLYING, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT,
02:06:24PM COUNCILMAN.
02:06:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: BUT WE WANT TO HAVE GIVEN THE CONTRACTOR, WE
02:06:30PM WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS COMPLIANCE, STRICT COMPLIANCE.
02:06:32PM AND WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THOSE FUTURE ENDEAVORS WE
02:06:36PM ARE HAVING WITHIN THE CITY THAT ARE OCCURRING RIGHT NOW IN
02:06:39PM COUNCILMAN GUDES DISTRICT WITH REGARD TO THE EAST TAMPA
02:06:42PM RESTORATION PROJECT THAT WE ALSO KEEP AN EYE ON THE PROJECT
02:06:46PM SO THAT WE FOLLOW THE PROCESS AND MAKE SURE AGAIN STRICT
02:06:50PM COMPLIANCE AND SOMETHING SAID AS WELL BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
02:06:53PM STILL ON POINT.
02:06:54PM TOP CONTINUE TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS
02:06:57PM THAT PROVIDE THESE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
02:07:00PM HE MENTIONED ERWIN -- AMAZING.
02:07:04PM THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB.
02:07:05PM I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES TO SEE THE WORK
02:07:08PM THEY DO AND MAKE SURE WE CAST THAT WIDE NET.
02:07:11PM IT HAS GOT TO BE STRICT FIDELITY TO THE ORDINANCE AND MAKING
02:07:16PM SURE THAT A APPARENT MISTAKES IN THE PAST ARE NOT MADE ON
02:07:21PM FUTURE PROJECTS AND WE HOLD THOSE TO LIGHT AND STRICT
02:07:27PM FIDELITY DONE THROUGH THAT.
02:07:29PM AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE EAST TAMPA PROJECT IS COMING BACK
02:07:32PM TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE APPRENTICESHIP ISSUE.
02:07:36PM I DO BELIEVE IT IS COMING BACK TO US AND TO MAKE SURE I AM
02:07:42PM NOT FORGETTING SOMETHING.
02:07:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:07:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TO HAVE ANY PROGRAM WORK, YOU HAVE TO HAVE
02:07:51PM -- WHAT CHIEF TRIPP SAYS, BUTTS IN THE SEAT TO MAKE THE
02:07:54PM PROGRAM WORK.
02:07:55PM YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE APPLYING TO MAKE THE PROGRAM WORK.
02:07:58PM THAT IS WHAT I GO WITH COMMUNICATION.
02:08:01PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COMMUNICATION BUDGET FOR THIS PROGRAM,
02:08:05PM BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE -- YOU KNOW, I TALK ABOUT SIGNS.
02:08:07PM YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS IN CAMPAIGN SEASON.
02:08:10PM STARTING TO GET THEIR SIGNS OUT SO PEOPLE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
02:08:14PM GO TO YOUR WEB SITES.
02:08:15PM YOU NEED SIGNS FOR THESE PROJECTS.
02:08:18PM WHEN I SEE THE COUNTY HAS A COMMUNITY MEETING OR COMMUNITY
02:08:24PM ZONING, THEY PUT UP SIGNS.
02:08:25PM THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE AND READ AND UNDERSTAND WHERE TO GO.
02:08:30PM I DRIVE THROUGH THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN.
02:08:33PM EVEN WEST SIDE, I SEE PEOPLE ON THE TREES.
02:08:36PM A LOT OF THEM -- SOMEBODY ON THE PHONES AND THEY HAVE ALL
02:08:44PM KIND OF TECHNOLOGY NOW SO PEOPLE SEE WITH ADVERTISEMENT.
02:08:47PM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NEW GENERATION OF ADVERTISING.
02:08:50PM WE HAVE TO HAVE SIGNS THAT SAY WE ARE HAVING A JOB FAIR WITH
02:08:56PM AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS WHAT HAVE YOU SO PEOPLE KNOW TO
02:09:01PM GO.
02:09:01PM IF I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
02:09:03PM WE GOT TO GO IN THOSE AREAS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS
02:09:06PM AND HAVE SIGNS THAT PUT UP THAT OUR SITES ARE HIRING TO GET
02:09:12PM THE PEOPLE OFF THE STREET AND INTO A SEAT.
02:09:15PM INTO A JOBSITE.
02:09:16PM TO BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A PROGRAM.
02:09:18PM SO GOING FORWARD, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THOSE EFFORTS AS WELL
02:09:22PM TO MAKE SURE WE COMMUNICATE THAT WE ARE HIRING.
02:09:24PM I KNOW -- SOMEONE NOT SENT IT TO ME TO PLACE ON ONE OF MY
02:09:30PM SITES, I WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT EITHER.
02:09:33PM I ALWAYS SAY YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE PEOPLE.
02:09:37PM YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE PLACES WHERE THEY ARE HUDDLED UP AND
02:09:40PM PUT THE INFORMATION OUT THERE.
02:09:42PM YOU PUT A BIG OL' SIGN WHERE THEY HANG OUT, SOME ARE GOING
02:09:47PM TO SAY, WOW, I NEED TO GO TO THAT JOB FAIR.
02:09:50PM I NEED A JOB.
02:09:51PM I NEED A JOB.
02:09:54PM THAT IS HOW YOU GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.
02:09:56PM I DON'T THINK WE DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF COMMUNICATING THAT.
02:09:59PM WE HAVE -- TO MAKE MENTION AND HAVE A MEETING OF THE USE
02:10:04PM SUMMER PROGRAM THAT ABOUT TRYING TO GET GOING.
02:10:06PM FIRST QUESTION I ASK, DO WE HAVE A BIG BILLBOARD TO ASK THE
02:10:12PM SCHOOL TO PUT IT TO THE CAFETERIA.
02:10:17PM I CAN SAY, OH THE CITY HAS A PROGRAM.
02:10:24PM AND FOR KIDS THAT -- GRADUATION AROUND THE CORNER FOR SOME
02:10:29PM OF THOSE KIDS.
02:10:30PM WE SHOULD BE HAVING A SIGN.
02:10:34PM A BILLBOARD IN THE CAFETERIA AROUND THAT PROJECT.
02:10:37PM SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE PROJECTS.
02:10:39PM I AM NOT GOING TO BELABOR ALL THE ISSUES.
02:10:42PM I WENT OUT TO THE SITE.
02:10:44PM I HAVE SEEN SOME OF YOUNG MEN WHO WERE WORKING.
02:10:47PM SHOWING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING.
02:10:49PM I WAS SURPRISED OF THE TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE DOING THIS
02:10:54PM PROJECT.
02:10:54PM AND SO I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN FOLLOW THE TRAIN AND IMPROVE.
02:11:04PM COME BACK TO SOME THE QUESTIONS THAT THE LABOR UNION IS
02:11:08PM CURRENTLY ASKING.
02:11:09PM IF WE ARE NOT DOING THAT, WE ARE NOT DOING THAT.
02:11:11PM THERE IS NOTHING WRONG -- NOTHING WRONG.
02:11:14PM BUT BE HONEST AND SAY WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
02:11:17PM THIS IS THE PLAN TO GET US THERE.
02:11:19PM SO I WILL ASK MORE ROBUST COMMUNICATION TO THE PUBLIC TO
02:11:28PM HAVE BUTTS IN SEATS.
02:11:29PM WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR ZONING RULES AND FOREVER PERTAINING TO
02:11:33PM SIGNS THAT THE COUNTY HAS.
02:11:34PM AND WHEN THE PUBLIC CAN COME TO THE CITY AND PUT THOSE SIGNS
02:11:37PM ON THE CORNER THAT EVERYBODY CAN SEE RIGHT HERE.
02:11:40PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT.
02:11:42PM WE NEED TO KNOW IF WE CAN DO THAT OR NOT.
02:11:44PM I WANT A QUESTION TO KNOW HOW THE COUNTY CAN DO BUT WE ARE
02:11:48PM NOT DOING IT AND IF NOT, WE HAVE TO CHANGE OUR RULES SO WE
02:11:50PM CAN DO IT.
02:11:51PM TO ME, WHEN I DRIVE IN THE EAST SIDE AND I SEE THE COUNTY
02:11:54PM HAS THOSE BIG OL' SIGNS UP.
02:11:56PM I PULL UP TO A STOP SIGN AND I LOOK OVER AND I CAN SEE WHAT
02:12:00PM IS GOING ON.
02:12:00PM SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:12:05PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, VERY MUCH.
02:12:08PM I WANT TO NOTE ABOUT ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE.
02:12:10PM THEY PUT UP SIGNS.
02:12:12PM DPR WAS ON A RADIO SHOW.
02:12:15PM THEY TRIED THE RADIO.
02:12:16PM WE HAD SOCIAL MEDIA PUSHES ON THE CITY OF TAMPA'S PAGE AS
02:12:21PM WELL DPR.
02:12:22PM I SHARED IT MYSELF ON MY PERSONAL PAGE FOR THE JOB FAIR.
02:12:27PM A NEWSLETTER FOR ANYTHING OF THE HANNA AVENUE PROJECT THAT
02:12:31PM COMMUNICATION AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TEAM SPONSOR AND WE
02:12:35PM HAVE IT ON THE CITY OF TAMPA WEB PAGE.
02:12:38PM SO NOTED ABOUT SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE AND MOVING FORWARD,
02:12:41PM WE CAN CERTAINLY IMPROVE THAT.
02:12:42PM ONE THING I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION AND KIND OF BACK TO
02:12:51PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO IN ADDITION TO EAST TAMPA WHO WAS
02:12:56PM THERE.
02:12:56PM TWO STUDENT INTERNS FROM MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL FROM THE
02:12:59PM SUMMER.
02:13:00PM RIGHT THERE LOCAL.
02:13:01PM THEY WERE NOT APPRENTICES.
02:13:02PM BUT DPR IS NOT GETTING CREDIT FOR THIS PROGRAM, BUT WE ARE
02:13:07PM GOING TO REAP THE BENEFIT OF VERYING IN THEM.
02:13:15PM WE ARE MAKING THAT IMPACT AND WE ARE DEFINITELY TRYING TO
02:13:20PM REACH YOU ANYONE INTERESTED AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO THAT
02:13:26PM POINT.
02:13:26PM THE 26 NUMBER DIDN'T IMPRESS YOU AS I HOPED IT WOULD.
02:13:30PM BUT I HOPE THAT THE NEXT NUMBER, THE TO HE TALL NUMBER OF
02:13:33PM WORK HOURS BY APPRENTICES TO DATE ON-SITE IS NEARLY 8,000
02:13:39PM WORKERS.
02:13:40PM 7641 HOURS OF WORK THAT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED ON-SITE WITH
02:13:44PM HANNA IS NEARING THE 8,000 NUMBER.
02:13:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:13:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO TALK.
02:13:57PM AND QUICK OF IT.
02:13:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF THE OTHER COUNCILMEN WANT TO SPEAK, LET
02:14:07PM THEM SPEAK.
02:14:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:14:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW YOU WILL TALK ABOUT THESE QUESTIONS
02:14:12PM IN DEPTH LATER.
02:14:14PM IS IT POSSIBLE WE CAN RUN THROUGH REAL FAST AND GIVE YOU
02:14:18PM QUICK ANSWERS AND A LOT OF THEM ARE REAL FAST.
02:14:22PM DO YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT OF YOU.
02:14:23PM WHO IS THE SPONSORING ENTITY REGISTERED AS AN APPRENTICE THE
02:14:30PM INDIVIDUAL COMPANIES LIKE THE ONES WE SAW THIS MORNING.
02:14:32PM >> YES, I HAVE THE QUESTIONS BEFORE ME.
02:14:35PM DPR IS A REGISTERED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
02:14:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: SUBCONTRACTORS ARE TOO, LIKE THE ONE WE SAW
02:14:43PM THIS MORNING?
02:14:48PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THE APPRENTICE -- THE ONE THIS MORNING.
02:14:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE WITH UP FROM LAKELAND.
02:14:54PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THE GMF, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT
02:14:56PM APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
02:14:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: NUMBER TWO, WHERE THE CERTIFICATE OF
02:15:03PM AGREEMENT SHOWING THEM PARTICIPATING.
02:15:04PM I AM JUST READING OFF THE QUESTIONS.
02:15:12PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THAT IS FINE.
02:15:13PM WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION THAT I CAN
02:15:16PM SHOW YOU THAT DPR PROVIDED TO US AND THEY HAVE THEIR STATE
02:15:22PM OF FLORIDA REGISTRATION NUMBER.
02:15:24PM REMEMBER, THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THEY
02:15:28PM EITHER BE REGISTERED WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA OR THE
02:15:30PM DEPARTMENT OF LABOR IN THIS CASE.
02:15:33PM DPR HAS BOTH AND WE BOTH HAVE THAT LETTER.
02:15:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE WOULDN'T MIND HAVING THE AGREEMENT
02:15:41PM CIRCULATED TO US.
02:15:42PM AGREEMENT GIVEN TO COUNCIL?
02:15:44PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: NO REQUIREMENT FOR ANY AGREEMENT.
02:15:46PM THE REQUIREMENT TO COMPLY WITH THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE
02:15:50PM IS INCLUDED IN CITY OF TAMPA CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTS MOVING
02:15:54PM FORWARD.
02:15:54PM BUT, AGAIN, REMEMBER, DPR STARTED THIS JOURNEY PRIOR TO THE
02:16:02PM APPRENTICESHIP.
02:16:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID PRIOR TO, DO YOU MEAN GOING BACK TO
02:16:06PM 2016.
02:16:06PM AND DID THE SEGMENT START BEFORE THE -- BEFORE THE
02:16:09PM APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE
02:16:12PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I MEAN ANY WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.
02:16:14PM THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT OF DPR IN 2015.
02:16:17PM IT WAS AMENDED IN MARCH OF 2021.
02:16:24PM THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM APPROVED IN MARCH 2021 BUT NOT NO
02:16:28PM GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL SEPTEMBER OF 2021.
02:16:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
02:16:33PM SAYS REGISTERED WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
02:16:35PM I THINK YOU ANSWERED THAT.
02:16:37PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YES, SIR.
02:16:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE NEXT QUESTION ABOUT DEPARTMENT OF LABOR.
02:16:40PM HOW MANY REGISTERED APPRENTICES ARE ENROLLED.
02:16:44PM YOU SAID 26 SO FAR.
02:16:45PM MAYBE MORE LATER.
02:16:46PM WHERE DO THEY ATTEND CLASS?
02:16:48PM I THINK YOU ANSWERED THAT TO SOME EXTENT.
02:16:51PM OF THE ORIGINALLY ENROLLED APPRENTICES, HOW MANY LEFT.
02:16:55PM YOU PARTLY WENT THROUGH THAT TOO.
02:16:56PM BUT YOU ARE GOING TO GET MORE, YOU SAID?
02:17:00PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: WE ONLY KNOW ONE WHO IS NO LONGER IN THE
02:17:02PM APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
02:17:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONLY TWO MORE QUESTIONS.
02:17:05PM HOW MUCH DO APPRENTICES EARN ON THE HANNA AVENUE PROJECT
02:17:09PM SPECIFICALLY, HOUR WAGE AMOUNTS?
02:17:12PM WE KNOW IT IS A SLIDING SCALE BASED ON JOURNEYMEN RAGES.
02:17:17PM WHAT IS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
02:17:21PM IF YOU CAN'T CITE OF A SALARY WAGE FOR APPRENTICES, WHY NOT.
02:17:26PM AGAIN I AM READING THE QUESTION
02:17:28PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: NO, NO.
02:17:29PM I CAN.
02:17:29PM I AM NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL 26 AT THIS TIME.
02:17:32PM OF COURSE IT WILL VARY.
02:17:34PM IT WILL VARY ON THE ACTUAL TRADE.
02:17:35PM IT WILL VARY ON THEIR EXPERIENCE.
02:17:37PM BUT I CAN TELL YOU THE AVERAGE PAY FOR THE APPRENTICES
02:17:40PM ON-SITE AT HANNA IS $18.55.
02:17:44PM OUR HIGHEST PAID APPRENTICE PAID $24.77.
02:17:50PM THE LOWEST PAID WAS $15.18.
02:17:53PM WELL ABOVE WHAT WE HAVE AS A REQUIREMENT FOR CITY OF TAMPA.
02:17:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:17:58PM LAST QUESTION.
02:17:59PM ANY CRAFTS TRADES THAT DPR SOUGHT A WAGER OF NO REGISTERED
02:18:06PM APPRENTICESHIP FOR SUCH TRADE?
02:18:09PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THERE ARE SOME.
02:18:10PM I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IS CURRENTLY
02:18:13PM REVIEWING WHICH TRADES HAVE ALLOWABLE APPRENTICESHIP
02:18:17PM PROGRAMS.
02:18:17PM AS COUNCILMAN VIERA MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS ISN'T EVEN ALL
02:18:21PM OF US.
02:18:23PM DPR AND THE CITY CENTER AT HANNA AVENUE IS THE FIRST PROJECT
02:18:27PM GOING THROUGH THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
02:18:30PM WE ARE VERIFYING WHICH TRADES HAVE APPLICABLE PROGRAM.
02:18:33PM THEY ARE LOOKING AT A COUPLE.
02:18:34PM I CAN'T TELL YOU RIGHT NOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHICH ONES
02:18:38PM TO HE WAS ARE.
02:18:39PM AND I CAN GET THAT TO YOU.
02:18:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR GETTING THE ANSWERS TO YOUR
02:18:43PM QUESTIONS.
02:18:44PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YOU ARE WELCOME, COUNCILMEN.
02:18:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:18:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS.
02:18:51PM I WILL BE HONEST, THE -- THE APPRENTICES PER HOUR -- THE
02:18:57PM AVERAGES AREN'T GOING TO DO IT.
02:18:58PM SO I WOULD -- I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW PER TRADE WHAT THE RANGE
02:19:02PM IS.
02:19:03PM IF YOU CAN'T TELL US EXACTLY, I -- WE NEED A RANGE.
02:19:08PM THOSE NUMBERS ARE A LOT LOWER THAN WHAT I KNOW THAT -- THAT
02:19:12PM UNION APPRENTICES ARE BEING PAID.
02:19:14PM JUST HEARING THAT, I CAN'T THINK OF ONE THAT I HAVE SEEN
02:19:16PM THAT STARTS AT $15 AN HOUR.
02:19:18PM THAT IS VERY UNFORTUNATE.
02:19:20PM SO IMWOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW IN WRITING -- AND YOU SHOWED
02:19:26PM US THAT -- THAT AGREEMENT OR THE CERTIFICATE, THAT SHOULD
02:19:30PM HAVE BEEN UPLOADED TO SIRE.
02:19:32PM I WILL ASK THAT THAT INFORMATION BE UPLOADED TO SIRE SO
02:19:36PM FOLKS CAN SEE IT.
02:19:37PM BUT, AGAIN, YOU HAVE THESE QUESTIONS AND -- I AM GOING TO
02:19:43PM MAKE THE MOTION THEN TO HAVE THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN --
02:19:50PM WITH SPECIFIC DETAIL BY FEBRUARY 16 COUNCIL MEETING.
02:19:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
02:19:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO --
02:20:05PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:20:07PM AND I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE
02:20:10PM THAT WE COLLECT THE HOURLY RATE OF PAY.
02:20:14PM IT DOESN'T MANDATE WHAT THAT IS.
02:20:16PM IT SAYS THAT WE COLLECT IT.
02:20:18PM WE WILL CERTAINLY PROVIDE YOU WITH THAT.
02:20:20PM AND I ALSO WANT TO JUST LET YOU KNOW THE WAY THE ORDINANCE
02:20:24PM IS WRITTEN WITHIN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF THE PROGRAM BEING
02:20:28PM ENACTED, WE COME TO YOU, WE, THE ADMINISTRATION, THE MAYOR
02:20:33PM DESIGNEE WITH THE REPORT AND ALL THIS INFORMATION EXACTLY
02:20:36PM WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
02:20:37PM AND AFTER THAT FIRST SIX MONTHS, IT IS ANNUAL.
02:20:40PM AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM AND WE ARE ALL GOING
02:20:44PM THROUGH IT TOGETHER.
02:20:45PM THE ADMINISTRATION HAS COME BEFORE YOU ON THIS PROJECT AND
02:20:49PM THE APPRENTICESHIP PORTION IN AUGUST OF 2022.
02:20:52PM AGAIN, IN OCTOBER OF 2022.
02:20:54PM AND NOW I'M HERE BEFORE YOU IN FEBRUARY.
02:20:57PM BUT TOGETHER, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THIS.
02:20:59PM WE WILL GET IT TO YOU IN WRITING.
02:21:01PM WE WILL PROVIDE THESE ANSWERS.
02:21:02PM AND WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.
02:21:04PM THAT I PROMISE YOU.
02:21:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW.
02:21:07PM I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
02:21:09PM THE DETAIL AS YOU SAID.
02:21:11PM IT IS IMPORTANT TO IRON THIS OUT NOW SO FUTURE PROJECTS --
02:21:15PM WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING AND ASK FOR THIS AHEAD OF
02:21:17PM TIME.
02:21:17PM THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
02:21:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:21:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:21:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TO HELP OUT THE MOTION, SALARY IS ONE
02:21:28PM THING BUT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AT THE TOTAL PACKAGE,
02:21:32PM SALARY AND BENEFITS TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE OF WAGES,
02:21:35PM BENEFITS AND SALARIES, THAT WAY THE PACKAGE IS COMPLETE AND
02:21:38PM EVERYBODY CAN SEE THE TOTAL SUM, NOT JUST ONE PARTS OF THE
02:21:41PM SUM.
02:21:41PM DID I UNDERSTAND -- DID I SAY IT RIGHT?
02:21:47PM THANK YOU.
02:21:51PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I UNDERSTOOD YOU COUNCILMAN.
02:21:53PM THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, THEY ARE REQUIRED --
02:21:57PM CERTAINLY ASK -- THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GIVE US AN HOURLY
02:22:00PM WAGE.
02:22:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COMING BACK TO THE 16th ALONG WITH MISS
02:22:04PM HURTAK'S MOTION SO THE PICTURE IS CLEAR ON BASE SALARY AND
02:22:07PM PACKAGES TOGETHER, EQUAL OF THE SUMS OF THE TOTAL PACKAGE.
02:22:11PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
02:22:14PM TO MISS COLINA'S POINT.
02:22:18PM OUR ORDINANCE THAT CERTAIN INFORMATION IS REQUIRED TO BE
02:22:23PM REPORTED TO US TO GIVE TO YOU ALL.
02:22:24PM WE WILL MAKE SURE IT IS PROVIDED IN WRITING.
02:22:28PM SOME OF THE INFORMATION YOU ARE ASKING IS NOT -- THE
02:22:30PM ORDINANCE DOES NOT BREAK DOWN TO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL.
02:22:33PM FOR INSTANCE, IT DOESN'T THE BENEFIT PACKAGE AND THAT SORT
02:22:37PM OF THING.
02:22:38PM WE CAN ASK FOR THAT INFORMATION, BUT IF WE DON'T GET IT, WE
02:22:41PM CAN'T PROVIDE IT TO YOU.
02:22:42PM THAT IS JUST --
02:22:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I ASK A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO YOUR
02:22:49PM MOTION.
02:22:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.
02:22:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS COLINA, CARBON COPY THE TWO UNION
02:22:56PM REPRESENTATIVES WHOSE NAMES ARE ON THESE QUESTIONS TO GET
02:23:00PM THEIR ANSWERS ALSO.
02:23:02PM WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:23:05PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:23:06PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
02:23:09PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:23:10PM ANY OPPOSED.
02:23:11PM MOTION PASSES.
02:23:12PM THANK YOU.
02:23:14PM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS.
02:23:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, FILE NUMBER CM
02:23:25PM 22-27569.
02:23:26PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:23:29PM LONG TIME NO SEE.
02:23:31PM NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
02:23:34PM OPPORTUNITY.
02:23:34PM I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ON ITEM NUMBER 14.
02:23:39PM TOURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE
02:23:42PM BUDGET PROCESS AND APPROVAL PROJECT FOR FISCAL YEAR '3.
02:23:47PM I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WHO ASKED FOR US TO
02:23:50PM QUARTERLY REPORTING HOW WELL WE ARE DOING WITH THE BUDGET.
02:23:54PM AND SO WHAT I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU TODAY IS QUARTER 1 OF
02:23:59PM FISCAL YEAR '23.
02:24:00PM FROM OCTOBER 1 THROUGH DECEMBER 31.
02:24:03PM AND THAT'S FOR THE NEGOTIATE ALLOCATION OF 24.6 IN THE
02:24:10PM FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET.
02:24:12PM WHAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET IS THE $20.2 MILLION
02:24:16PM THAT YOU ALLOCATED FOR HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
02:24:19PM BACK IN DECEMBER THROUGH THE CRAs THAT WAS CODIFIED BY
02:24:24PM COUNCIL IN JANUARY.
02:24:25PM SO YOU WILL SEE THAT SHOW UP IN OUR QUARTER TWO REPORT.
02:24:29PM ON THE ELMO, I AM SHOWING YOU THE FIVE DIFFERENT BUCKETS --
02:24:36PM THAT IS CROOKED.
02:24:38PM SORRY.
02:24:39PM THE FIVE DIFFERENT BUCKETS WE HAVE AND SHOWING HOW MUCH
02:24:42PM FUNDS HAVE BEEN EXTENDED IN EACH ONE OF THOSE BUCKETS.
02:24:47PM HOMELESS, $1.5 MILLION.
02:24:49PM HELPING OVER 1,000 HOUSEHOLDS.
02:24:52PM UNDER PUBLIC SERVICES, 166 HOUSEHOLDS WITH $118,000.
02:24:58PM RENTAL ASSISTANCE, ONE THAT YOU GUYS HEARD A LOT ABOUT AND
02:25:04PM MADE THE MOTION IN FISCAL YEAR '22.
02:25:07PM SOME OF A THAT MONEY WAS ROLLED OVER.
02:25:08PM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN SEPTEMBER, $3.8 MILLION AT THAT TIME
02:25:12PM TO ROLL OVER.
02:25:13PM WE SO FAR HELPED 446 HOUSEHOLDS AND EXPENDED $4.2 MILLION OF
02:25:19PM THAT MONEY.
02:25:20PM UNDER THE HOMEOWNERSHIP OF THAT BUCKET, DOWN PAYMENT
02:25:23PM ASSISTANCE.
02:25:24PM 24 HOUSEHOLDS AT $1.1 MILLION.
02:25:29PM IN QUARTER TWO WITH THE CRA FUNDS, THE DOWN PAVEMENT
02:25:34PM ASSISTANCE INCREASE FOR THE -- USE THE EAST TAMPA
02:25:39PM PARTICULARLY EAST TAMPA AND WEST TAMPA DOWNPAYMENT
02:25:44PM ASSISTANCE.
02:25:44PM BUCKET IS ACQUISITIONS AND REHAB.
02:25:48PM $23 HOUSEHOLDS, $759,000 IN THE FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL '23.
02:26:00PM I AM HOPING TO TO SHOW YOU IN THE SECOND REPORT IN QUARTER
02:26:04PM 2, AS YOU ALL KNOW, NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO FIX OUR HOUSING CRY
02:26:09PM CITIES THAT WE ARE IN.
02:26:09PM THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS TO HAVE OUR HOUSING PRIORITIES
02:26:14PM AND STRATEGIES IN PLACE AND INNER LOOP THEY WILL STILL BE
02:26:18PM CAPTURED IN THESE BUCKETS, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
02:26:21PM WITH THE 20% INCREASE IN HOUSEHOLDS HAPPENING UP UNTIL 2020
02:26:29PM -- EXCUSE ME A 23% INCREASE IN HOUSEHOLDS WHAT WE ARE
02:26:33PM ESTIMATING IN 2030, WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH
02:26:37PM WITHOUT DISPLACING OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS.
02:26:40PM IT IS TO HELP PROTECT OUR CURRENT RESIDENTS.
02:26:43PM WE ARE PRIORITIZING OUR GOALS TO EXPAND TEMPORARY HOUSING
02:26:46PM OPTIONS TO MEET THE EMERGENCY NEEDS AND PREVENT TIS
02:26:49PM PLACEMENT.
02:26:50PM PRIORITIZING SENIORS WITH DISABILITIES AND OTHER PROTECTED
02:26:55PM CLASSES STABLE HIGH-RISING RENTERS AND LOW-INCOME AND
02:27:00PM MAJORITY NEIGHBORHOODS VULNERABLE TO DISPLACEMENT AND
02:27:04PM GENTRIFICATION.
02:27:05PM THE FOURTH PRIORITY IS ENSURING SAFE AND QUALITY HOUSING FOR
02:27:10PM LOW-INCOME AT 80% AMI AND BELOW.
02:27:13PM LEVERAGING CITY RESOURCES TO FILL GAP FUNDING FOR WORK FORCE
02:27:18PM BETWEEN THE 80% AMI AND THE 140% AMI.
02:27:23PM I COME TOGETHER IN QUARTER 2, ASSESS ALL THE PROGRAMS, SHOW
02:27:27PM YOU WHERE THEY FALL IN THE BUCKET AND WHERE THEY ARE
02:27:30PM PERFORMING BASED ON THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES HELPING THE
02:27:34PM MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS.
02:27:36PM IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT OF THIS QUARTER 1 REPORT, I WILL
02:27:40PM BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT AT THIS TIME.
02:27:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:27:45PM GUDES GUDES WHAT I AM WORRIED ABOUT WHEN I LOOK AT THE
02:27:50PM NUMBERS AND JUMP DOWN TO ACQUISITION REHAB, AND WE HAVE A
02:27:56PM SITUATION IN THE CITY.
02:27:58PM AND I HAVE $4.7 MILLION ALLOCATED.
02:28:02PM ONLY 750 HAS BEEN SPENT.
02:28:07PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: REMEMBER, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT -- WHEN WE
02:28:13PM WERE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
02:28:16PM WE TALKED OF ALL THE MONEY WE COULD GET, RIGHT.
02:28:19PM THE $20 MILLION FROM THE CRA PLUS THE $26 MILLION.
02:28:23PM I HAVE TO STAFF UP IN ORDER TO DO THIS.
02:28:26PM THERE ARE ALSO SOME PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE PILOTING.
02:28:30PM A ROOF REPAIR PROGRAM THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PILOT.
02:28:33PM THE OWNER-OCCUPIED REHAB THAT -- THEY HAVE SOME PROCUREMENT
02:28:39PM KINKS THAT WE NEED TO WORK OUT WITH THE LIMITED CONTRACTOR
02:28:41PM -- AVAILABILITY OF CONTRACTORS TO DO THE WORK.
02:28:44PM MR. DRUMGO, ABBYE FEELEY, KEON HENDERSON ARE DILIGENTLY
02:28:52PM WORKING WITH OUR PROCUREMENT OFFICE, AND I AM CONFIDENT WHEN
02:28:56PM YOU SEE QUARTER 2 REPORTING, YOU WILL SEE A LOT MORE
02:29:00PM HAPPENING WITH THAT ITEM.
02:29:03PM TALKS ABOUT ACQUISITION.
02:29:04PM WITH THE CONVERSATION WE HAD THE PROPERTY IS SKY ROCK KEPTED
02:29:11PM NOT WHERE WE NEGOTIATE.
02:29:11PM I UNDERSTAND THE STRATEGIC ACQUISITION AND THE CHARGE BY THE
02:29:15PM REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS.
02:29:16PM WE ARE DOING ACQUISITIONS WITH ARPA FUNDS.
02:29:22PM $16 MILLION OF ARPA FUNDS IN THE LAST FISCAL YEAR AND
02:29:28PM ACQUIRED SOME PROPERTY DOING THAT.
02:29:29PM BUT YOU WILL SEE THAT NUMBER START TO -- YOU WILL SEE IT
02:29:32PM START TO MOVE AS WE PAY ATTENTION TO THE AREA.
02:29:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REASON I ASK THAT, I LOOK BACK.
02:29:43PM THEY SAY WHAT ARE YOU DOING.
02:29:45PM I KNOW YOU ARE WORKING BUT I HAD TO ASK THAT TO EXPLAIN TO
02:29:48PM THE PUBLIC AND, AGAIN WHEN I TALK TO DIANE HART AND OTHERS,
02:29:54PM THEY HAVE THIS ISSUE OF PEOPLE WHO CAN DO THE WORK.
02:29:56PM THAT IS OUR PROBLEM RIGHT NOW GETTING -- I TAKE THAT BACK
02:30:01PM NOT REALLY GETTING THE WORK, BUT MAKING SURE THEY GET PAID.
02:30:04PM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IS THE CHALLENGE MAKING SURE SOME OF
02:30:08PM THE SMALLER GUYS CAN'T DO THE WORK AND HAVE TO BAIT ON
02:30:12PM SOMEBODY TO GIVE THEM MONEY.
02:30:13PM THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR PEOPLE BEFORE THEY DO OTHER WORK.
02:30:17PM I HOPE WE FIND A PROCESS OR A WAY TO CUT THAT PIECE OUT OR I
02:30:24PM KNOW SOME COMPANIES HAVE THAT MONEY DRAWN -- THEY PAY THOSE
02:30:28PM FOLKS THERE.
02:30:28PM THOSE PEOPLE CAN MOVE ON.
02:30:29PM WE HAVE TO FIEND A WAY AND MAYBE LEGALLY TO LOOK AT.
02:30:33PM YOU NEED TO PAY THEM TO GET THE WORK DONE.
02:30:36PM AND ON TOP OTHER PROJECT TO START THE WORK.
02:30:39PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT IS MORE LIKE ACCOUNTING AND PAYABLE.
02:30:44PM WE ARE WORKING WITH REVENUE AND FINANCE TO RECOGNIZE
02:30:47PM PARTICULARLY AN ISSUE IN SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND
02:30:55PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
02:30:56PM PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO ENGAGE BUSINESS WITH THE CITY BECAUSE
02:30:59PM THEY CAN'T CARRY -- OR BE WITHOUT THAT MONEY FOR A LONG
02:31:02PM PERIOD OF TIME.
02:31:03PM AGAIN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- NOT JUST FROM HOUSING BUT
02:31:06PM HOLISTICALLY, THE ISSUES WE ARE HAVING IS TRYING TO FIX
02:31:10PM PROCUREMENT PROCESS, ACCOUNTS RECEIVER, PROCESSING THINGS
02:31:13PM FASTER AND PARTICULARLY THE SMALL AND MINORITY BUSINESSES
02:31:16PM THAT CAN DO THE WORK.
02:31:17PM WE CAN NOT AFFORD TO CARRY THAT COST FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
02:31:21PM WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS HOLISTICALLY.
02:31:23PM AND YOU SEE ME UP HERE.
02:31:25PM THERE IS A WHOLE TEAM BEHIND ME TRYING TO DO THAT INCLUDING
02:31:29PM REVENUE AND FINANCE, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, TOO IG TO WORK
02:31:32PM THROUGH THIS ISSUE.
02:31:32PM I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR AND A BIG DEAL FOR ME.
02:31:35PM BECAUSE THAT -- THAT DOESN'T REALLY, IT DOESN'T REALLY
02:31:40PM EFFECT WHAT I AM REPORTING TO YOU ON THE HOUSING PIECE.
02:31:43PM THAT EFFECTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE SMALL BUSINESSES
02:31:46PM ARE THE BACKBONE TO OUR ECONOMY SO I'M ON IT.
02:31:53PM THANK YOU.
02:31:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:31:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:31:57PM I WANTED TO ASK IF THIS $11 MILLION INCLUDES THE ADDITION
02:32:01PM FOR HOMELESS SERVICES -- FOR HOMELESS SERVICES, INCLUDE THE
02:32:07PM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT JUST GAVE US?
02:32:10PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NO, IT DOES NOT.
02:32:12PM YOU WILL SEE THAT IN QUARTER 2.
02:32:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A QUICK MENTION TO KAON HENDERSON.
02:32:21PM CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW WE GOT THAT --
02:32:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS GOING TO SAY.
02:32:27PM SHE IS A BIT QUIET.
02:32:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW, I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE PER AHEAD OF
02:32:32PM TIME BECAUSE WHAT A WONDERFUL THING.
02:32:34PM WE GOT MORE MONEY TO GO IN THE HOMELESS BUCKET BECAUSE THE
02:32:37PM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS SO IMPRESSED HOW WE SPENT IT.
02:32:39PM I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
02:32:40PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SHE WON'T SAY THAT.
02:32:43PM AND SHE IS LAUGHING, BUT SHE WILL NOT SAY THAT.
02:32:46PM THANK YOU FOR CONGRATULATING HER AND HER TEAM, BECAUSE THAT
02:32:50PM MONEY CAME -- THE REASON WE GOT THAT MONEY IS BECAUSE THEY
02:32:54PM WERE SO GOOD IN HOW WE PUT OUT THE PROGRAMS AND SPENT THE
02:32:58PM MONEY AT THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT WE GET ANOTHER $800,000.
02:33:01PM THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE TEAM.
02:33:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, ABSOLUTELY.
02:33:04PM YOU ALL HAVE WORKED INCREDIBLY HARD WITH WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
02:33:08PM AND REALLY TO HAVE DONE IT IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
02:33:11PM WE REALLY, THE CITY HAS RAMPED UP ITS HOUSING EFFORTS.
02:33:15PM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, AGAIN.
02:33:17PM BECAUSE AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
02:33:19PM NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH.
02:33:21PM NO ONE CAN MOVE FAST ENOUGH AND I HAVE BEEN IMPRESSED WITH
02:33:25PM YOUR TEAMS AND WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.
02:33:27PM I DON'T HAVE A PHONE OR A CALCULATOR UP HERE.
02:33:30PM BUT I AM DYING TO KNOW, 24 HOUSEHOLDS PER HOMEOWNERSHIP AND
02:33:36PM $1.1 MILLION.
02:33:37PM HOW DOES THAT DIVIDE OUT AND WHAT DO WE MEAN BY THAT?
02:33:41PM I THINK THE.PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO KNOW SINCE ONLY $3.3
02:33:44PM MILLION IN THERE AND WE ALREADY EXPENDED $1.1 MILLION.
02:33:48PM WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE SPENDING THAT MONEY ON?
02:33:54PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I WILL LET THE EXPERTS TELL YOU THAT.
02:33:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 48, 8.
02:34:01PM THANK YOU.
02:34:02PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: KAYON HENDERSON, MANAGEMENT ASSISTANCE
02:34:08PM ALLOWS EACH INDIVIDUAL TO GO UP TO $40,000 FOR EACH
02:34:14PM HOUSEHOLD.
02:34:14PM HOUSING SERVICES, PRECOUNSELING, POST COUNSELING, WE HELP TO
02:34:19PM ASSESS WITH THE HOMETOWNING CUNNING AGENCY SO EVERYBODY
02:34:22PM GOING IN IS CREDIT READY.
02:34:24PM THEY MAY BE WORKING WITH THEM TO GET THEIR CREDIT UP AND
02:34:28PM HELP THEM WITH THEIR MORTGAGE APPLICATIONS.
02:34:29PM WE ARE TAKE THE HOUSING ACCOUNTS AND AGENCIES A FEE AND THAT
02:34:33PM FILTERED THROUGH.
02:34:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
02:34:36PM I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT RIGHT NOW, THE CITY OF
02:34:40PM TAMPA HAS UP TO $40,000 THAT THEY CAN HELP WITH DOWN PAYMENT
02:34:45PM ASSISTANCE.
02:34:46PM I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS AND MORE PEOPLE SHOULD
02:34:49PM KNOW ABOUT THAT.
02:34:49PM THANK YOU SO MUCH VERY MUCH.
02:34:52PM COUNCILMAN GUDES COVERED ACQUISITION AND REHAB.
02:34:56PM I AM ABSOLUTELY THRILLED ABOUT THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE AMOUNT
02:35:00PM THAT HAS GONE OUT.
02:35:01PM THAT WAS A CONCERN OF THE PUBLIC EARLY ON, TO HAVE THAT MUCH
02:35:07PM MONEY ALREADY EXPENDED I THINK IS WONDERFUL.
02:35:14PM AND SCARY WE ARE ALREADY THAT MUCH THROUGH, BUT I KNOW THAT
02:35:18PM IS FOR THE FULL YEAR.
02:35:19PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT IS FOR OUR 2023.
02:35:25PM THAT MEANS WE ARE ALMOST OUT OF MONEY IN RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
02:35:28PM IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM IN FISCAL YEAR '24, I AM
02:35:32PM COMING TO YOU FOR RECOMMENDATIONS ON POLICY CHANGES.
02:35:35PM THAT IT IS NOT JUST ANYONE THAT NEEDS HOUSING GAP.
02:35:38PM WE GO BACK TO THOSE PRIORITIES I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT.
02:35:43PM THE MOST VULNERABLE, 80% AMI, AND THAT WAY WE ARE HELPING
02:35:48PM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT NEED THE MOST HELP.
02:35:54PM RIGHT NOW IF YOU HAVE A GAP, WE ARE PAYING FOR THAT.
02:35:57PM MOVING FORWARD, WE WILL MAKE A POLICY CHANGE IT THAT WE ARE
02:36:03PM HELPING OUR MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS MODIFYING THAT PROGRAM.
02:36:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
02:36:13PM IF I CAN GET A COPY OF THIS AND THE FIVE GOALS --
02:36:17PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: PRIORITIES.
02:36:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PRIORITIES.
02:36:19PM I THINK THAT IS HELPFUL FOR ALL OF US IF THAT IS ABLE TO PUT
02:36:22PM UP IN SIRE WHO MIGHT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
02:36:26PM NOW THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT I APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.
02:36:29PM WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO
02:36:33PM THIS.
02:36:34PM EXCITING TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU ARE ABLE TO DO IN THREE MONTHS,
02:36:37PM SO THANK YOU.
02:36:38PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE THING, SO THANK YOU.
02:36:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:36:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY.
02:36:46PM THANKS TO EVERYBODY.
02:36:47PM YOU WILL GO THROUGH MORE NUMBERS IN A MINUTE.
02:36:49PM AS THE ECONOMY STARTS TO CHANGE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND
02:36:53PM IT SOUNDS LIKE RENTAL PRICES ARE STARTING TO PIVOT A LITTLE
02:36:57PM BIT.
02:36:57PM I THINK WE HAVE GOT TO SHIFT INTO FOCUSING ON HOMEOWNERSHIP.
02:37:05PM WE GOT TO -- INSTEAD OF PATCHING PROBLEMS CREATE
02:37:11PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR INTERGENERATIONAL WEALTH.
02:37:13PM RIGHT NOW THE GOOD NEWS, BAD NEWS OUR HOME OWNERSHIP RATE
02:37:19PM WENT UP BY ONE POINT AND STILL AT 50% PUT US IN THE MIDDLE
02:37:23PM TO THE BOTTOM OF BIG CITIES IN FLORIDA.
02:37:25PM BUT PUT IT IN COMPARISON, ST. PETE IS LIKE 64%.
02:37:33PM SINGAPORE IS 94%.
02:37:34PM AND WE -- SOMETIMES WE SET A GOAL, TEN YEARS WE WANT TO BE
02:37:39PM AT 60% AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND PUSH REALLY HARD WORKING
02:37:42PM WITH ALL THE NONPROFITS AND FOR PROFITS OUT THERE TO
02:37:49PM LEVERAGR OUR LIMITED DOLLARS.
02:37:50PM THE MORE PEOPLE WE CAN GET INTO HOUSING THAT THEY OWN AND
02:37:53PM PUT MULTIPLE FAMILIES IN THERE, WILL HELP TO MORE
02:37:58PM PERMANENTLY SOLVE THE ISSUE.
02:38:01PM I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO DO THAT IN THE NEXT YEAR, BUT SHIFT
02:38:05PM TO SOMETHING MORE PERMANENT.
02:38:06PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: 100% AGREED.
02:38:10PM CHANGING PRIORITIES AND GOING FOR THE FUNDING.
02:38:12PM WE WILL PUT METRICS TO SHOW HOW WE ARE PERFORMING ON EACH
02:38:16PM ONE OF THOSE TARGET AREAS.
02:38:20PM TO YOUR POINT, HOMEOWNERSHIP IS A BIG ONE TO THAT.
02:38:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
02:38:27PM THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT, MISS TRAVIS.
02:38:29PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MY PLEASURE.
02:38:31PM WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO TALK TO THE NEXT ITEMS 58-71 THESE
02:38:43PM WERE INFILL AGREEMENTS PART OF PHASE 2.
02:38:45PM THE WAY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS WORDED THAT THE BUYERS
02:38:51PM GO UP TO 80% AMI.
02:38:54PM SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE MARKET THAT ARE
02:38:56PM MAKE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO PLACE BUYERS INTO THE INFILL HOMES
02:39:01PM AT 80% AMI.
02:39:03PM CONSTRUCTION COST HAVE INCREASED BETWEEN 15 AND 25
02:39:11PM COUNCILMAN, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
02:39:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T WANT YOU TO INTERRUPT, BUT IF YOU CAN
02:39:18PM EXPLAIN AMI REALLY QUICK AND GIVE NUMBERS BEHIND IT SO AS
02:39:22PM YOU ARE TALKING THE PUBLIC AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IS 80% AMI
02:39:28PM AND WHAT IS AMI.
02:39:30PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
02:39:31PM I GET COMFORTABLE AND I RATTLE UP.
02:39:34PM LET ME BACKTRACK.
02:39:35PM THE 13 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BEFORE YOU TODAY.
02:39:38PM WE ARE ASKING FOR TWO MODIFICATIONS FOR THAT.
02:39:40PM TO CHANGE IT FROM 80% AMI, WHICH IS FOR ONE, $46,000, TWO
02:39:51PM PEOPLE $52,600 AND GOES UP BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN
02:39:57PM THE HOUSE HOLD.
02:39:58PM THE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FROM THE 80% TAKING UP TO
02:40:03PM 140%.
02:40:05PM 140% WITH A SINGLE PERSON IN A HOUSE HOLD WILL MAKE ABOUT
02:40:10PM $850,500.
02:40:12PM TWO-PERSON HOUSE HOLD $9,980.
02:40:16PM THE SECOND MODIFICATION TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS
02:40:19PM TAKING THE MAXIMUM SALES PRICE OF $240,000 TO $300,000 THAT
02:40:28PM IS IT WHAT IS IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
02:40:29PM THOSE CHANGES.
02:40:30PM WHAT HAPPENED IN THE MARKET IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS,
02:40:37PM CONSTRUCTION COSTS INCREASE BETWEEN 15% AND 25%.
02:40:40PM INTEREST RATES ESSENTIALLY DOUBLED IN THE LAST YEAR.
02:40:44PM AND HERE IN FLORIDA, INSURANCE PREMIUMS -- I DON'T KNOW
02:40:47PM ABOUT YOU GUYS, BUT MY INSURANCE PREMIUM IS KILLER, RIGHT.
02:40:51PM ALL THESE DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT ARE AFFECTING THE MARKET.
02:40:55PM WHEN YOU PUT THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER AND YOU PUT SOMEONE THAT
02:41:01PM IS 80% AMI.
02:41:02PM A SINGLE PERSON AT $80,500.
02:41:07PM INSURANCE PREMIUM, HIGH INTEREST RATE, INFLATION ON
02:41:11PM CONSTRUCTION COST.
02:41:12PM IT IS NO LONGER AFFORDABLE FOR SOMEBODY AT 80% AMI.
02:41:17PM WE CAN SUBSIDIZE GETTING THEM IN THE HOME WITH DOWNPAYMENT
02:41:24PM ASSISTANCE.
02:41:25PM THE ASSISTANCE THAT MISS HENDERSON, WE CAN FURTHER SUBSIDIZE
02:41:33PM -- BUT SET SOMETHING THEM UP FOR FAILURE BECAUSE THEY HAVE
02:41:36PM TO PAY THE MORTGAGE PAYMENT.
02:41:38PM WHEN WE DO THOSE AND THE HUD STATEMENTS, THEY CAN'T PAY IT
02:41:50PM BASED ON THEIR NORTH CAROLINA.
02:41:52PM WHAT HAS HAPPENED THE INFILL WITH TWO HOMES.
02:41:54PM WE HAVE SEVERAL HOMES COMPLETED.
02:41:56PM CONSTRUCTION.
02:41:57PM FINISHED AND UNABLE TO PLACE BUYERS IN THOSE HOMES BECAUSE
02:42:01PM THEY ARE NO LONGER QUALIFIED.
02:42:03PM SOME OF THESE HOMES HAVE SENT VACANT AND HAVE BEEN
02:42:06PM VANDALIZED WITH WINDOWS BROKEN.
02:42:08PM APPLIANCES STOLEN OUT OF YOU.
02:42:10PM WHAT WE ARE COMING TO YOU IS NOT AN OVERALL POLICY CHANGE, A
02:42:14PM BROAD POLICY CHANGE.
02:42:15PM ASKING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AFREMONT WE HAVE FOR INFILL PHASE
02:42:19PM TWO TO TECH IT FROM 80% TO 140%.
02:42:23PM IT IS BET EVERY TO GET PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THIS -- IN THE LOW
02:42:28PM INCOME TO THE ABOVE -- THE ABOVE MODERATE INCOME INTO THE
02:42:34PM HOMES THEN TO HAVE THEM SIT VACANT AND CONSTANTLY HAVE TO
02:42:38PM REPLACE ALLIANCES AND CONSTANTLY HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME OF
02:42:41PM THE VANDALISM.
02:42:44PM BECAUSE AS YOU GUYS KNOW, EYES ON THE STREET.
02:42:47PM NOBODY THERE TO SEE IT, THEN SOMETIMES CRIME HAPPENS.
02:42:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:42:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN I HEARD OF THE 140, I WAS HESITANT AT
02:42:58PM FIRST.
02:42:59PM AFTER YOU EXPLAINED WHAT IS GOING ON AND I WANT TO TELL THE
02:43:02PM PUB IT IS TRUE.
02:43:06PM A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE HOUSE -- DEDICATED
02:43:09PM AND I GOT PHONE CALLS OF -- THAT I ASSUME THAT PEOPLE HAD
02:43:13PM MOVED IN THAT DAY.
02:43:14PM THEN COME TO FIND OUT THEY HAVEN'T MOVED IN AT ALL I CAN
02:43:22PM IMAGINE HOW I WAS OVERJOYED YOU HAD SOME FOLKS AND ONE YOUNG
02:43:27PM MAN WAS SO HAPPY THAT HE HAD A HOME.
02:43:29PM WE HAVE A HOME, MAMA.
02:43:31PM AND FOR ME TO HEAR THAT THEY NEVER MOVED INTO THAT HOME.
02:43:37PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE HAD EIGHT CONTRACTS THAT FELL OUT
02:43:42PM BECAUSE PEOPLE COULDN'T DO THE 80%.
02:43:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS HEARTBROKEN.
02:43:47PM AND I MADE IT CLEAR.
02:43:48PM I DON'T WANT ANOTHER FAMILY TO GO THROUGH THAT IF THEY ARE
02:43:51PM NOT QUALIFIED OR HAVEN'T SIGNED ON THE DOTTED LINE.
02:43:54PM THEY WILL NOT GO TO THE CLOSING AND NONE OF THAT TO CLOSE
02:43:57PM AND SAY, THAT'S YOUR HOUSE.
02:43:59PM THAT IS YOUR HOURS.
02:44:00PM BECAUSE YOU SIGNED A DEAL.
02:44:03PM WHEN I GOT A HOUSE, SIGNED A DEAL.
02:44:07PM NOT DO ANY CLOSING UNTIL THE DEED IS DONE.
02:44:10PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.
02:44:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT NOW I KNOW, DRIVING AROUND -- I HAVE
02:44:19PM SEEN SOME OF THESE HOMES THAT -- PEOPLE ARE LOOKING.
02:44:23PM WE DON'T SEE ANYBODY THERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME PEOPLE
02:44:27PM GO AND TRY IT.
02:44:28PM THEY TRIED SEVERAL OF THEM.
02:44:30PM THOSE HOMES NEED TO HAVE FAMILIES IN THEM.
02:44:33PM I TRUST YOUR GUIDANCE.
02:44:35PM SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING WE WILL BE CUTTING POOR PEOPLE OUT IF
02:44:38PM WE GO HERE AND THERE.
02:44:40PM I WANT YOU TO EX-MAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND
02:44:43PM ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO DO SO NO ONE WILL FEEL THAT IF WE DO
02:44:47PM THIS AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT, WE WILL GET THOSE PEOPLE
02:44:55PM UPWARD MOBILITY TO GET THEM IN.
02:44:58PM DETAILED ON THAT.
02:44:59PM I CAN'T WAIT YOU WENT TO 140% AMI.
02:45:03PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: UNDERSTOOD, SIR.
02:45:05PM WE ARE TRYING.
02:45:06PM JUST BY HOW WE OUTLINE -- I OUTLINE THE PRIORITIES WE WORK
02:45:11PM THROUGH NOW.
02:45:12PM IT IS SHOWING THAT WE ARE SHIFTING OUR FUNDING AND
02:45:14PM ASSISTANCE TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE LOW MODERATE
02:45:17PM INCOME.
02:45:18PM THIS THAT IS OUR TARGET PROTECTED POPULATION.
02:45:21PM PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
02:45:23PM PEOPLE IN THAT LOW INCOME BRACKET IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO WE
02:45:30PM WILL BE ABLE TO HELP THEM MORE IF THEY FOCUS STRATEGICALLY
02:45:34PM ON THAT POPULATION.
02:45:35PM I PUT ON THE ELMO FOR YOU TO SEE THE FEDERAL HUD AND STATE
02:45:39PM NORTH CAROLINA LIMITS FOR 2022 WITH THE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF
02:45:45PM INCOME LEVELS.
02:45:45PM SO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR LOW INCOME AT 80%.
02:45:50PM AND YOU TAKE THAT BY HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THE HOUSE HOLD.
02:45:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:46:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THIS EXPLANATION.
02:46:03PM YOU KNOW, THERE IS STILL A NEED FOR WORKFORCE HOUSING.
02:46:06PM SO I BELIEVE THIS CAN KEEP PEOPLE IN COMMUNITIES WHO ARE IN
02:46:13PM NEED OF WORKFORCE HOUSING, TEACHERS, NURSES, THOSE FOLKS WHO
02:46:19PM WANT TO STAY IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
02:46:21PM FINDING A HOUSE FOR -- IT IS $300,000.
02:46:24PM BUT IF THEY GET THE $40,000 -- DOWN PAVEMENT ASSISTANCE,
02:46:30PM THEN THAT IS $260,000.
02:46:33PM AND THAT IS A DOABLE MORTGAGE FOR TEACHERS AND NURSES AND
02:46:38PM THOSE.
02:46:38PM AND SO, I THINK THAT -- IN THIS CASE, IT IS A GOOD -- IT IS
02:46:43PM WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR THIS -- THIS TIME.
02:46:46PM I DO KNOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT INFILL 3 RIGHT NOW.
02:46:50PM I SIT ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE.
02:46:53PM WE HAD A MEETING OF LOOKING AT THE INFILL LOTS AND THE
02:46:56PM POSSIBILITY OF INFILL PHASE THREE BUT ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE
02:46:59PM SAME THING.
02:47:00PM 140% AMI LOVE TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT, DUPLEXES OR TRIPLEXES
02:47:13PM OR QUADS AND HOW WE MAKE THAT WORK BECAUSE HOME OWNERSHIP
02:47:16PM DOES NOT HAVE TO MEAN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
02:47:18PM AND I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE DON'T TALK
02:47:22PM ENOUGH ABOUT.
02:47:23PM WE NEED TO -- WHAT IS THE WORD I AM LOOKING FOR.
02:47:29PM WE NEED TO JUST MAKE REGULAR -- GOSH.
02:47:37PM ONE OF THESE DAYS.
02:47:38PM SOME DAYS ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS.
02:47:40PM WE BASICALLY -- WE NEED TO JUST -- JUST MAKE IT NORMAL TO
02:47:44PM LIVE IN ALL TYPES OF HOUSING AND TO OWN ALL TYPES OF
02:47:48PM HOUSING.
02:47:49PM A CONDO DOESN'T HAVE TO MEAN SOMETHING BIG DOWNTOWN.
02:47:53PM IT CAN BE A CONDO IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU
02:47:59PM CAN STILL OWN.
02:48:00PM BUT --
02:48:02PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: HOUSING CHOICES AND HOUSING OPTIONS.
02:48:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOUSING CHOICES AND HOUSING OPTIONS.
02:48:08PM JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE OWNING A CONDO TODAY DOESN'T MEAN YOU
02:48:12PM WILL BE THERE FOREVER.
02:48:13PM AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE UP WITH TIMES AND ONE OF THINGS
02:48:16PM THAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT MORE.
02:48:18PM NORMALIZED.
02:48:19PM THAT IS THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR.
02:48:22PM NORMALIZED HOUSING.
02:48:24PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: PERFECT.
02:48:26PM ANYTHING ELSE?
02:48:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:48:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
02:48:30PM I GOT A BUNCH OF CALLS ABOUT THIS TOO.
02:48:34PM TWO THINGS.
02:48:37PM I THINK WE OUGHT TO CREATE A DEFINITION OF WHAT WE MEAN BY
02:48:41PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
02:48:42PM AND I KNOW MY COLLEAGUE USES ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
02:48:47PM IF WE GIVE DEVELOPERS SOME KIND OF CREDIT, A BONUS CREDIT,
02:48:55PM WE NEED TO DEFINE WHAT THAT MEANS.
02:48:56PM BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF -- A SLIDING SCALE THAT HAS BEEN
02:49:00PM USED ON A LOT OF THESE DEALS THE LAST FEW YEARS BEFORE YOU
02:49:04PM CAME WHERE PEOPLE ARE CALLING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEY
02:49:07PM COME IN AND START DRILLING THEM LIKE 200% AMI.
02:49:10PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
02:49:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OF SPECIFIC DEALS, BUT
02:49:18PM SOME THINGS ARE BEING CALLED AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN IT IS
02:49:21PM NOT.
02:49:22PM I DON'T KNOW IF I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION OR HAVE YOU COME
02:49:25PM BACK.
02:49:25PM BUT THAT IS ONE.
02:49:27PM AND THEN ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT, WILL BE THE CITY'S
02:49:30PM DEFINITION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ABOVE THAT CALLED WORK
02:49:35PM FORCE BUT 200% AMI IS NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
02:49:39PM THE OTHER THING IS, I -- I AM WILLING -- I TRUST NEW YOUR
02:49:44PM JUDGMENT AND WHERE YOU ARE WITH THIS SITUATION AND HEARD MY
02:49:47PM COLLEAGUES, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE IS THAT SOMEHOW
02:49:50PM THIS IS NOT USED AS A PRECEDENT IN THE FUTURE.
02:49:53PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SPECIFICALLY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
02:49:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE ANY WAY -- WATCHING THIS VIDEO A
02:50:04PM ONE-TIME EXCEPTION AND IF THEY COME NEXT WEEK, THEY ARE NOT
02:50:07PM GOING TO APPROVE IT.
02:50:08PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YOU ARE NOT APPROVING ANY POLICY TODAY.
02:50:11PM SO IF WE WERE TO BRING ANY OTHER KIND OF FUNDING OR
02:50:14PM AGREEMENT BEFORE YOU, THAT WILL HAVE TO BE SPELLED OUT.
02:50:18PM AND WHAT YOU ARE HOPING TO APPROVE TODAY ARE SPECIFIC
02:50:21PM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS FOR SPECIFIC PROPERTIES.
02:50:23PM SO THIS IS JUST WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
02:50:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE FOR SOMETHING TO GO FARTHER THAN THAT.
02:50:29PM AND A MOTION TO APPROVE, ADD A LINE, AS A ONE-TIME
02:50:34PM SINGLE-USE EXCEPTION SO THAT NOBODY READS IT IN THE FUTURE
02:50:38PM SAYING YOU DID IT THAT TIME.
02:50:40PM SO YOU SHOULD DO IT AGAIN.
02:50:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:50:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
02:50:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS TRAVIS, I LIKE WHAT MR. CARLSON HAS
02:50:52PM SAID AS IT RELATES TO THE DEFINITIONS AS A POLICY, YOU KNOW
02:50:59PM OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
02:50:59PM I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE BUSY, YOU AND MISS HENDERSON.
02:51:03PM I THINK HE IS ON TO SOMETHING.
02:51:04PM WITH THESE DEVELOPERS, WE NEED TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE
02:51:08PM STATE IS SAYING, THE GOVERNMENT, WHAT THE CITY IS DEFINING
02:51:11PM AS ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
02:51:12PM I JUST CAN'T USE THAT WORD "AFFORDABLE."
02:51:15PM WHAT IS THE GOAL?
02:51:17PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THE STATE DOES DEFINE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
02:51:21PM AND NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHAT THAT
02:51:25PM PERCENTAGE IS, WHAT THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WORKFORCE
02:51:32PM HOUSING.
02:51:32PM WORKFORCE HOUSING IS TYPICALLY WHERE YOUR MARKET IS NOT
02:51:36PM GOING.
02:51:36PM YOU CAN DEFINE THAT.
02:51:38PM TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT.
02:51:40PM PURPOSE ASKING IF THIS IS A ONE-TIME.
02:51:42PM I WAS CHECKING WITH LEGAL TO MAKE SURE THAT -- ADDING THAT
02:51:45PM DOESN'T EFFECT MY ADJUSTMENTS TO MY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
02:51:52PM AND IT DOESN'T.
02:51:53PM THAT WILL BE PERFECTLY FINE.
02:51:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WITH THAT SAID, YOU BRING OUT THE POLICY SO
02:51:59PM THOSE DEVELOPERS CAN KNOW.
02:52:01PM WHAT WOULD THAT INCENTIVE BE.
02:52:07PM WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU THREE -- THREE HOUSING UNITS.
02:52:12PM BUT I AM JUST GIVING YOU THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY BUT GIVING ME
02:52:16PM THREE HOUSING UNITS.
02:52:16PM WE HAVE TO DEFINE -- IF I AM GIVING YOU THIS, YOU HAVE TO
02:52:20PM GIVE ME THIS.
02:52:20PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND THAT,
02:52:28PM YOU WEAR DIFFERENT HATS.
02:52:30PM SOMETIMES YOU ARE DOING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS FOR PIECES OF
02:52:36PM PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS AND DOING TRANSACTIONS.
02:52:38PM WE CAN DEFINE DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT THAT.
02:52:41PM MISS HENDERSON WILL TALK PRESIDENT DIFFERENT FUNDING
02:52:45PM SOURCES.
02:52:45PM GO AHEAD.
02:52:46PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: JUST TO ADD TO WHAT MISS TRAVIS WAS
02:52:49PM SAYING IS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT DEFINING THE -- WHAT
02:52:53PM AFFORDABILITY MEANS AT THE PENDING ON THE FUNDING SOURCE.
02:52:57PM SOME FUNDING SOURCES, THEY DEFINE "AFFORDABLE" GOING UP TO
02:53:02PM 140% OF THE MEDIAN INCOME.
02:53:03PM SOME FUNDING SOURCES STOP AT 80%.
02:53:06PM WE ALSO HAVE TO ADD IN ADDITIONAL FACTORS THAT WE HAVE
02:53:11PM DIFFERENT REGULATION IT IS WE HAVE PROGRAM INCOME THAT STOPS
02:53:14PM UP TO 30%.
02:53:15PM WE ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT A MATRIX OF HOW WE CAN SPEND
02:53:19PM THOSE FUNDS AND DEFINE AFFORDABLE PROJECT EVEN IF THE
02:53:23PM FUNDING SOURCE IS THE TIME.
02:53:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
02:53:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
02:53:29PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE THE CHAIR OF BUILDING AND
02:53:33PM ZONING.
02:53:33PM DO YOU WANT TO MOVE THESE 58-71 NOW OR WAIT UNTIL WE GO
02:53:37PM THROUGH CONSENT AGENDA.
02:53:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM OKAY WITH MOVING THEM NOW WITH THE
02:53:45PM ADDITION OF A ONE-TIME EXCEPTION.
02:53:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY.
02:53:47PM SECOND.
02:53:48PM SECOND.
02:53:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND IS
02:53:52PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
02:53:54PM TO MOVE AGENDA 58-71.
02:53:57PM THAT'S CORRECT?
02:53:59PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:54:00PM OPPOSED?
02:54:01PM MOTION PASSES.
02:54:02PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ALL VERY MUCH.
02:54:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
02:54:06PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15 MISS KAYON.
02:54:15PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, KAYON HENDERSON.
02:54:18PM I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION TO GO OVER.
02:54:21PM AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTIONED, WE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY
02:54:25PM $4 MILLION DURING COVID JUST TO ASSIST THOSE WHO ARE
02:54:28PM HOMELESS.
02:54:29PM WE ACTUALLY EXPENDED THOSE FUNDS AHEAD, OF BEING GOOD
02:54:38PM STEWARDS WE RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL $800,000 THAT WE CAN
02:54:42PM DISCUSS TOTS.
02:54:42PM IF YOU PULL MY PRESENTATION UP I WILL GO OVER THE FUNDS.
02:54:49PM THE RUSH FUND, RAPID UNSHELTERED SURVIVOR HOUSING.
02:54:55PM THIS IS THE FIRST OF THE FUNDS THAT HUD HAS GIVEN.
02:54:58PM THE FIRST FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED.
02:55:01PM $800,000.
02:55:02PM YOU HAVE TWO YEARS TO FULLY EXPEND.
02:55:06PM UNLIKE THE OTHER HOMELESS FUNDS, UP TO 12 MONTHS OF
02:55:09PM ASSISTANCE.
02:55:10PM ALLOW US TO HELP SOMEONE UP TO 24 MONTHS REALLY COMES AT A
02:55:16PM VERY IMPORTANT TIME AND COMPLETED OUR FUNDS WITH THE $24
02:55:19PM MILLION WE GOT FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF TREASURY FOR RENTAL
02:55:22PM ASSISTANCE.
02:55:22PM THE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN CONTINUED DWINDLED DOWN,
02:55:26PM GETTING THESE ADDITIONAL FUNDS HELP TO STABILIZE SOME OF
02:55:29PM THESE FAMILIES.
02:55:31PM AS A CITY $250,000 ANNUALLY FOR HOMELESSNESS AND $800,000
02:55:36PM WILL CERTAINLY BE A HUGE PART OF IT.
02:55:38PM SO I WILL GO OVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THOSE ELIGIBLE
02:55:41PM USES.
02:55:41PM WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO LOOK AT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE USE THE
02:55:45PM FUNDS FOR THOSE WE KNOW IN DIRE NEED OF RECEIVING THEM.
02:55:48PM YOU WILL SEE WE RECEIVED A LITTLE SHORT OF $800,000 IN THE
02:55:52PM RAPID UNSHELTERED SURVIVOR HOUSING FUNDS.
02:55:56PM WE WILL CONTINUE TO CALL IT RUSH JUST FOR A QUICK OVERVIEW
02:56:00PM OF IT.
02:56:00PM SO IT IS A RAPID RESPONSE ORIGINALLY FOR WHERE WE COULD NOT
02:56:04PM HAVE FEDERAL -- WHERE THERE WAS A GAP FOR FEDERAL
02:56:07PM ASSISTANCE.
02:56:07PM WHEN WE KNEW THE HURRICANES WERE COMING OUR WAY ARE, YOU HUD
02:56:14PM TRIED TO MAKE DIFFERENT PHONE CALLS MAKING SURE WE WERE
02:56:17PM PREPARED IF WE GOT HIT BY THE HURRICANE.
02:56:19PM LOOK AT PEOPLE HOMELESS OR AT RISK OF HOMELESSNESS IF THEY
02:56:24PM WERE DISPLACED BY A HURRICANE OR OTHER NATURAL DISASTERS.
02:56:29PM SIMILAR TO THE OTHER FUNDS WE RECEIVED FOR HOMELESSNESS.
02:56:31PM THE DIFFERENCE WITH THIS ONE, WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME WAIVERS.
02:56:35PM UP STEAD OF USING THE RENT LIMIT THAT HUD HAD, WE CAN LOOK
02:56:40PM TO THE A WAIVER TO LOOK AT WHAT IS A RENT REASONABLE RATE
02:56:44PM RIGHT NOW KNOWING THAT SOMETIMES THESE VOUCHERS CAP AT
02:56:47PM $1,000.
02:56:48PM AND WE ASKED FOR WAIVERS TO GO WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS ALLOWED
02:56:51PM RIGHT NOW AND REALLY GUEST US A HUGE ADVANTAGE TO BE ABLE TO
02:56:55PM HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS GET INTO AND HAVE THE SAME
02:56:58PM COMPETITION OF THOSE WHO ARE MARKET.
02:57:00PM WE HAVE TO CONSULT WITH THE COMMUNITY NORMALLY AND THAT HAS
02:57:08PM BEEN WAIVED.
02:57:08PM TO REMOVE THAT BARRIER FOR HAVING THE 30-DAY PUBLIC COMMENT
02:57:13PM PERIOD, HUD IS WANTING US TO GO OUT AND SPEND THESE FUNDS AS
02:57:18PM QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
02:57:19PM GENERALLY MATCH THE FUNDS AND WE RECEIVED.
02:57:21PM 2750,000.
02:57:23PM WE HAVE TO FULLY MATCH IT.
02:57:25PM THIS $800,000 DOES NOT REQUIRE A MATCH.
02:57:30PM OBJECTIVES TO PROVIDE SAFE, DECENT AND SANITARY HOUSING.
02:57:34PM WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT PUTTING INDIVIDUALS INTO HOUSES.
02:57:37PM WE ARE EXPECTING THEM AND MAKING SURE WE ARE REALLY TAKING
02:57:40PM THEM OUT OF SHELTER AND PUTTING THEM IN A SAFE PLACE TO CALL
02:57:45PM HOME.
02:57:45PM 24 MONTHS.
02:57:46PM THEY TONIGHT HAVE TO CERTIFY AS HOMELESS AND ONCE THEY ARE
02:57:50PM GOTTEN IN, MAKE SURE THEY ARE THERE, STABILIZE THEM AND GIVE
02:57:53PM THEM SUPPORT SERVICES TO MOVE BEYOND THIS.
02:57:56PM TENANT-RENTAL ASSESSMENT.
02:58:00PM RAPID HOUSING FOR THOSE 24 MONTHS.
02:58:02PM WE HAVE HOME FUNDS ANNUALLY AND ALLOCATE $800,000 FOR TENANT
02:58:07PM RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND FOCUS ON THE FUNDS THAT WE OTHERWISE
02:58:11PM WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO.
02:58:12PM A SMALL PORTION TO BE USED FOR PLANNING AND ADMINISTRATION
02:58:15PM AND THAT IS 5% OF THAT GRANT THAT BECK USE FOR STAFF.
02:58:20PM THAT IS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AS A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT WE -- WE
02:58:24PM REALIZE WE HAVE HOMELESS PREVENTION AND THIS ALLOWS US TO
02:58:28PM LOOK FORWARD.
02:58:28PM ANY FAMILIAR THAT IS LOOKING AT EDITION 21 DAYS OUT, WE CAN
02:58:35PM HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHEN IT COMES TO HOMELESSNESS.
02:58:39PM HOMELESS PREVENTION AT A VERY AGGRESSIVE WAY IF WE KNOW THEY
02:58:44PM ARE ABOUT TO BE EVICTED.
02:58:48PM WE LIMIT OURSELVES TO 5% SO MOST OF THE FUNDS CAN GO
02:58:52PM DIRECTLY TO THE SERVICES AND LEVERAGE WITH OTHER PROGRAMS
02:58:54PM THAT WE HAVE, OTHER STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WE HAVE.
02:58:56PM WE HAVE SOME FUNDS THAT CAN BE USED FOR STREET OUTREACH.
02:58:59PM THESE ARE JUST THE MAXIMUM AMOUNTS THAT WE CAN USE.
02:59:02PM WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET GENERAL FUNDS TO DO A LOT OF
02:59:06PM STREET OUTREACH AND AGAIN FOCUS ON USING THIS FOR THE
02:59:09PM ASSISTANCE SPECIFICALLY FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
02:59:12PM THIS TIMELINE, IT IS A CALENDAR THAT IS CONSTANTLY MOVING.
02:59:18PM WE ARE HERE TODAY -- WE ARE GOING TO PUT THESE -- THAT
02:59:24PM $800,000 OUT AS PART OF AN OVERALL APPLICATION PROCESS
02:59:27PM LOOKING FOR SOME AGENCIES TO JUMP IN TO HELP TO PROVIDE
02:59:32PM ASSISTANCE TO THOSE WHO REALLY NEED IT.
02:59:34PM WE WILL MEET WITH ALL THE HOMELESS PROVIDERS.
02:59:36PM DO A RFP, END OF FEBRUARY, BEGINNING OF MARCH TO START.
02:59:42PM OUR GRANT AGREEMENT IS BEING ROUTED TO SEND IT OVER TO
02:59:48PM H.U.D., YOU OR FEDERAL ASSISTANCE.
2:59:51PM I AM READY FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:59:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GO BACK TWO SLIDES.
2:59:59PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS GOING BACK OR
3:00:05PM NOT.
3:00:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THERE YOU GO THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT
3:00:12PM SHOWED -- IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN NOW.
3:00:14PM SO I WANTED TO JUST TAKE THIS MOMENT TO MENTION IF FOLKS ARE
3:00:19PM STRUGGLING AND THEY ARE LISTENING TODAY, OR IF SOMEONE IS
3:00:22PM LISTENING TODAY KNOWS OF SOMEONE WHO IS ABOUT TO BE EVICTED,
3:00:25PM WE ACTUALLY HAD A WAY THAT THEY CAN CONTACT US.
3:00:29PM WE HAVE A HOUSING HOTLINE NUMBER WHICH IS 813-307-5555, AND
3:00:36PM I REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT OUT, THAT PEOPLE
3:00:39PM CAN CALL IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE.
3:00:42PM WITH THESE TYPES OF ISSUES.
3:00:44PM AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM HAVE
3:00:47PM DONE FOR THIS.
3:00:49PM BUT WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT FOLKS GETTING OUT OF OR POSSIBLY
3:00:58PM BEING EVICTED, THIS IS THE SEGUE THAT PEOPLE CAN CONTACT.
3:01:04PM I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS.
3:01:06PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
3:01:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW SOMETIMES WHEN YOU ARE AN
3:01:10PM OVERACHIEVER YOU GET MORE WORK BUT THIS WILL HELP A VERY
3:01:15PM VULNERABLE SUBSET OF OUR POPULATION.
3:01:18PM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:01:19PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
3:01:20PM AND THE FUND WILL BE AVAILABLE.
3:01:22PM THEY ARE NOT YET AVAILABLE BUT WE ARE HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE
3:01:25PM NAMES AND NUMBERS AND REACH OUT TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
3:01:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR ASK ANY
3:01:35PM QUESTIONS?
3:01:35PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
3:01:38PM AGENDA TEN NUMBER 16.
3:01:40PM FILE CM 23-79315.
3:01:44PM >> MY NAME IS RUSSELL HAUPERT, CTO OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND
3:01:56PM YOU GUYS ASKED ME TO COME BEFORE YOU TO REPORT ON THE STATUS
3:02:01PM OF OUR CURRENTS ACCELA SYSTEM.
3:02:03PM LAST WEEK, I SENT YOU GUYS A MEMO WITH A DETAILED HISTORY OF
3:02:06PM WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE GOT THERE AND HOW WE ARE MOVING
3:02:09PM FORWARD.
3:02:10PM I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF HIT FOUR MAJOR POINTS, IS WE ARE
3:02:15PM NOW CONSISTENTLY INVESTING AND IMPROVING THE ACCELA SYSTEM
3:02:20PM AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.
3:02:22PM LAST YEAR, WE UPGRADED TO THE LATEST VERSION OF ACCELA WHICH
3:02:28PM MATCHES ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE AROUND US.
3:02:31PM THAT'S JEFFRIES, FROM ACCELA.
3:02:35PM WE'LL TALK TO HIM IN A MINUTE.
3:02:36PM WE UPGRADED THAT THE SAME, A RATHER LARGE UPGRADE THAT YOU
3:02:40PM GUYS APPROVED AS PART OF OUR ACCELA MODERNIZATION PROGRAM.
3:02:44PM THE SECOND STAGE OF THAT STARTED IN MID JANUARY, JUST PAST,
3:02:49PM WHERE WE ARE REVIEWING OUR CODE AND LOOKING TO DO ADDITIONAL
3:02:52PM ENHANCEMENTS.
3:02:53PM WE WENT TO OUR FIRST PHASE.
3:02:56PM WE DID COME UP WITH A FEW ISSUES.
3:02:57PM BASED ON THE FACT THAT I BELIEVE, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, WE
3:03:01PM UPGRADED SO MANY VERSIONS THERE, WERE A LOT OF CHANGES, AND
3:03:04PM PART OF OUR EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME OF OUR USERS,
3:03:07PM OF COURSE SOME OF THAT FUNCTIONALITY CHANGED.
3:03:10PM WE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES.
3:03:12PM WE HAVE ELIMINATED MOST OF THEM.
3:03:13PM AND THE ONLY OUTSTANDING MAJOR ISSUE WE HAVE NOW HAS
3:03:17PM SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE WAY OUR SEARCH FUNCTION WORKS.
3:03:19PM THE SEARCH FUNCTION AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS DOES WORK.
3:03:22PM IT IS DIFFERENT FROM HOW THE SYSTEM USED TO WORK.
3:03:26PM WE HAVE BEEN OFFERED EDUCATION AND TRAINING FOR OUR FOLKS
3:03:29PM THAT NEED TO USE THE SYSTEM IN ORDER TO TAKE BEST ADVANTAGE
3:03:32PM OF THE NEW DESIGN OF THE SYSTEM.
3:03:36PM BUT WE HAVE ALSO HEARD SOME OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE
3:03:39PM COMMUNITIES AND WORKED WITH ACCELA TO SEE IF WE COULD FIND A
3:03:42PM PLANS TO DO SOME FURTHER ENHANCEMENTS FOR FUNCTIONALITY AS
3:03:45PM WE HAVE I KNOW.
3:03:45PM THE ACCELA FOLKS HAVE AGREED TO WORK WITH US ON THAT BUT
3:03:48PM THEY INDICATE THAT'S A LONG-TERM ISSUE THAT MAY TAKE NINE
3:03:51PM MONTHS OR A YEAR TO FULLY DEVELOP DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE
3:03:55PM UNDERLYING CHANGES THAT HAPPENED TO THE PLATFORM OVER THE
3:03:59PM YEARS.
3:03:59PM I DID ALSO WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT AS THE SYSTEM
3:04:02PM STANDS NOW, IT IS PERFORMING WELL, IT IS PERFORMING -- UP
3:04:09PM TIME IS BETTER THAN IT'S EVER BEEN BEFORE, AND WE FEEL THAT
3:04:12PM WE HAVE GOTTEN A GOOD SYSTEM AS WE HAVE MORE ENHANCEMENTS TO
3:04:16PM COME, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON THAT, AND WE HAVE
3:04:18PM BEEN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, TBBA AND OTHERS TO MAKE
3:04:22PM SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE, HOW WE ARE MOVING
3:04:25PM FORWARD, AND WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE, AND AGAIN, OUR FOLKS
3:04:29PM FROM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES DIVISION, KEN AND I AND ACCELA
3:04:36PM HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH ANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAD
3:04:38PM ISSUES, IN THE UNLIKELY CASE THAT WE HAVE MISSED SOCK, WE
3:04:42PM WANT TO SIT DOWN WITH ANYONE WHO HAS AN ISSUE, WHETHER WE
3:04:46PM THINK IT'S WITH THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS OR THE WAY THE
3:04:48PM SYSTEM SHOULD WORK, WE ARE WILLING TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT
3:04:51PM IN THE COMMUNITY TO SAY IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE HAVE MISSED,
3:04:54PM WE'LL PUT THAT IN OUR PLANS TO ADDRESS OR WORK WITH OUR
3:04:57PM PARTNERS AT ACCELA IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
3:05:01PM WITH THAT, I AM GOING TO OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS AND THEN I AM
3:05:03PM GOING TO STEP BACK SO WE CAN GET MORE HERE, OKAY?
3:05:08PM THANK YOU.
3:05:08PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HEARD THE CONCERNS FROM MR. MICHELINI,
3:05:21PM I GUESS HE'S A LONG-TIME CITY PERSON, CITY HALL AND USING
3:05:26PM ACCELA.
3:05:27PM AND I HEARD SOME CONCERN.
3:05:31PM I HEARD A COMPLAINT.
3:05:33PM BUT HEARING WHAT MR. MICHELINI SAID THIS MORNING, DO YOU
3:05:37PM AGREE WITH WHAT HE'S SAYING?
3:05:38PM >> FIRST OFF, I AM VERY GLAD THAT HE ABSOLVED ME OF ALL
3:05:42PM RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SYSTEM, BUT WE DO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
3:05:47PM FOR THE SYSTEM.
3:05:48PM AND WHAT I WILL SAY IS, I DON'T AGREE WITH HIS
3:05:51PM CATEGORIZATION BUT I AM NOT IN THE -- I AM NOT IN THE
3:05:55PM POSITION OF TELLING MY CUSTOMERS THEY ARE WRONG.
3:05:59PM WE DID CHANGE THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS, AND THAT IS
3:06:01PM DIFFERENT FOR OUR FOLKS.
3:06:03PM AND WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEY
3:06:05PM KNOW HOW TO BEST USE THE SYSTEM, AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
3:06:08PM WITH MR. MICHELINI AND OTHERS, WITH CSB AND ACCELA TO MAKE
3:06:15PM SURE WE ARE ADDRESSING ANY ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP AND WE
3:06:17PM HAVE NOT GOT A NUMBER OF OTHER ISSUES AND SOME OF THE
3:06:22PM REMAINING ONES WE ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH IF WE FIND
3:06:25PM ANYTHING ELSE.
3:06:25PM SO THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS I HEAR WHAT HE'S
3:06:28PM SAYING, I UNDERSTAND THAT HE'S FRUSTRATED AND THAT OTHER
3:06:31PM PEOPLE MIGHT BE.
3:06:32PM WE ARE USING THE SYSTEM EVERY DAY.
3:06:34PM WE ARE PROCESSING THOUSANDS OF PERMITS FOR MILLIONS OF
3:06:38PM DOLLARS IN REVENUE, AND WE ARE USING THAT SAME SYSTEM AS I
3:06:42PM THINK 20-SOME-ODD FOLKS AROUND US.
3:06:46PM SO THAT PLATFORM BEING THE SAME, WE HAVE A HIGH DEGREE OF
3:06:49PM CONFIDENCE IN OUR BASIC PLATFORM.
3:06:51PM WE DO WANT TO EXPEND ANY EFFORTS WITH ALL CUSTOMERS TO MAKE
3:06:57PM SURE THEY ARE COMFORTABLE THE SYSTEM AS IT STANDS TODAY.
3:07:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN THE SYSTEM-BE BETTER?
3:07:05PM >> ANY SYSTEM CAN BE BETTER.
3:07:07PM AND THE SECOND PART OF OUR FUNDING THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED,
3:07:10PM THE SECOND PART IS THE ENHANCEMENT PHASE, WHERE A PART OF
3:07:13PM THAT ACCELA MODERNIZATION, WHERE LITERALLY REVIEWING ALL OF
3:07:17PM OUR CODE, MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MAKING THINGS MORE
3:07:21PM CONSISTENT, FOR CORRECTING ANY ISSUES THAT WE FIND IN THAT
3:07:25PM CODE AND TWEAKING THE PERFORMANCE.
3:07:28PM THAT IS CONTRACTED AND PAID FOR, AND WE HAVE HAD A KICKOFF
3:07:31PM IN JANUARY.
3:07:33PM THAT PREMISES IS GOING TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE YEAR.
3:07:35PM AND WHENEVER WE DO THAT KIND OF WORK, WE HAVE A TEN-YEAR
3:07:40PM HISTORY OF WORKING WITH THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND OUR
3:07:43PM CUSTOMERS TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE GOING
3:07:45PM AND HOW WE ARE WORKING ON IT AND WE INTEND TO KEEP --
3:07:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AS LONG AS WE CAN IMPROVE ON THE SYSTEM, I
3:07:52PM HAVE NO ISSUES.
3:07:53PM IT'S WHERE WE DON'T IMPROVE.
3:07:55PM AND WHAT I AM HEARING FROM OUR CUSTOMERS, THAT SAYING THEY
3:07:59PM HAVE DIFFICULTY IN NAVIGATING THE SYSTEM, AND THAT'S THE
3:08:02PM ISSUE.
3:08:03PM I WANT A SYSTEM THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE DIFFICULTY.
3:08:05PM I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO IN THERE AND DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO
3:08:08PM AND GET WHAT THEY NEED GET WITHOUT GOING THROUGH ALL THESE
3:08:13PM HOOPS TO GET THERE.
3:08:14PM I AM NOT A BIG TECH GUY.
3:08:15PM WHEN I GO TO A SITE I WANT TO GO RIGHT THERE.
3:08:17PM I DON'T WANT TO GO HERE, TO THIS SITE, I WANT TO SHALL ABLE
3:08:20PM TO GO THERE.
3:08:21PM SO THAT'S WHAT I AM LOOKING TO FIND OUT.
3:08:23PM HOW CAN WE GET PEOPLE THERE AND NOT GOING ALL AROUND TO GET
3:08:26PM THERE?
3:08:29PM >>RUSSELL HAUPERT: UNDERSTOOD.
3:08:30PM AND AGAIN WE DO HAVE A COMPLEX SYSTEM BECAUSE WE HAVE
3:08:33PM COMPLEX RULES.
3:08:34PM BUT I BELIEVE WE ARE PUTTING EFFORT OUT IN TERMS OF
3:08:38PM DOCUMENTATION, IN TERMS OF ENHANCEMENTS, IN ORDER TO MAKE IT
3:08:41PM AS NAVIGABLE AS IT CAN BE, FOLKS, AND WE CONTINUES TO
3:08:46PM IMPROVE IT.
3:08:46PM AND AGAIN, I WILL KEEP YOU APPRISED OF THAT SO YOU KNOW HOW
3:08:50PM WE ARE DOING ON THAT.
3:08:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
3:08:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: I SEE MS. FEELEY JUMP ON.
3:08:55PM DID YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?
3:08:56PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND
3:09:01PM GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
3:09:03PM AS THE PRIMARY ACCELA USER, WORKS CLOSELY WITH RUSSELL AND
3:09:09PM HIS TEAM, WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE LIFT AND SHIFT, COMING OFF
3:09:15PM OF SO MANY VERSIONS AND OUR TEAM HAS DONE MESSAGING OUT TO
3:09:21PM THE PUBLIC WHEN WE DID IN FACT UNDERGO OUR BIG SHIFT TO THE
3:09:25PM LATEST VERSION.
3:09:27PM JC HUTCHISON, OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL WHO UNFORTUNATELY ISN'T
3:09:33PM WITH HIM TODAY BUT GOD BLESS HIM, HE IS RECEIVING AN AWARD
3:09:36PM AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE FOR BEING ONE OF THEIR 40
3:09:39PM UNDER 40, SO I AM KIND OF FILLING IN FOR HIM.
3:09:43PM YOU KNOW, WE PERMITTED 284,000 PERMITS IN 2022, AND THAT'S A
3:09:50PM LOT.
3:09:51PM THAT'S NOT ALL ACCELA RECORDS BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER
3:09:54PM DEPARTMENTS THAT USE ACCELA, NOT JUST CONSTRUCTION SERVICES
3:09:58PM DIVISION, BUT THOSE 284,000 WERE OURS.
3:10:02PM AND WE WORK HARD WITH OUR CUSTOMERS.
3:10:04PM WE DO HAVE ADVISORY GROUPS WE MEET WITH IN ADDITION TO TBBA,
3:10:10PM EACH QUARTER.
3:10:11PM WE DO CONTRACTORS.
3:10:13PM WE DO ARCHITECTS AND DESIGNERS, LAND USE CONSULTANTS, AND
3:10:18PM LAND USE ATTORNEYS.
3:10:19PM WHENEVER ANYTHING IS CHANGING WE DO ROLL IT OUT BECAUSE
3:10:22PM THOSE ARE OUR PRIMARY CUSTOMERS AND USERS OUTSIDE OF OUR
3:10:27PM RESIDENTS.
3:10:28PM WE RECOGNIZE AND ARE WORKING WITH RUSSELL AND THE TEAM AT
3:10:33PM ACCELA IN ORDER TO HANDLE THE SEARCH BAR ISSUE, WHICH IS
3:10:37PM WHAT I BELIEVE HAS IMPACTED PEOPLE THE MOST, AND IN
3:10:43PM PREPARATION FOR TODAY, I DID GO ONTO SOME OTHER
3:10:46PM JURISDICTIONS THAT ACCELA, WANTED TO SEE HOW THEIR SEARCH
3:10:51PM BAR WAS WORKING AS WELL, AND IT IS THE SAME AS WHAT WE HAVE.
3:10:56PM AND WE ARE GOING TO WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS
3:10:58PM FOR THAT.
3:10:59PM OTHER THAN THAT, I AM THE FRONT LINE FOR MANY OF THE
3:11:03PM COMPLAINTS THAT COME IN.
3:11:05PM I CAN'T SAY THAT WE ARE HAVING TOO MANY.
3:11:09PM YOU KNOW, 284,000, IF THE SYSTEM WERE BROKEN, I WOULD BE
3:11:15PM GETTING 100,000 COMPLAINTS OR 50,000 OR 25.
3:11:18PM BUT I THINK WE HAVE WONDERFUL CLIENT FACILITATORS, PEOPLE
3:11:23PM WHO HAVE PROBLEMS, WE WORK THROUGH WITH THEM, AND WE ARE
3:11:26PM ONLY IN THE THIRD MONTH OF OPTIMIZATION REALLY SO WE HAVE
3:11:31PM THE REST OF THIS YEAR, AND I KNOW ALREADY THAT WE HAVE MORE
3:11:36PM PROCESSES OUTSIDE OF THE SEARCH BAR THAT WE ARE MAKING
3:11:40PM IMPROVEMENTS ON.
3:11:42PM I DID HEAR A REFERENCE THIS MORNING CONCERNING SOMETHING
3:11:44PM WITH INSPECTIONS.
3:11:47PM I DO WORK CLOSELY WITH BY INSPECTION TEAMS.
3:11:50PM I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH INSPECTIONS NOT BEING ABLE TO BE PUT
3:11:54PM INTO THE SYSTEM BUT I DID MAKE A NOTE OF THAT BASED ON MR.
3:11:57PM MICHELINI'S TESTIMONY AT PUBLIC COMMENT, AND I WILL GO AHEAD
3:12:00PM AND LOOP INTO THAT AS WELL.
3:12:01PM SO JUST HERE TO HELP, HERE TO REALLY SUPPORT THE CONTINUAL
3:12:07PM MODERNIZATION OF THIS SYSTEM TO SERVE OUR CUSTOMERS AND OUR
3:12:10PM CITIZENS THE BEST THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN.
3:12:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:12:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIR.
3:12:18PM JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
3:12:19PM AND I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT A WAY TO IMMEDIATELY
3:12:24PM DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT WE CAN FIX NOW, MR. MICHELINI
3:12:29PM AND OTHERS HAVE HIGHLIGHTED, AND ALSO I KNOW THAT T.H.A.N.
3:12:34PM FOLKS, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IS HERE FROM T.H.A.N. OR MAY
3:12:37PM BE WATCHING BUT I BELIEVE THERE ARE ALSO CONCERNS FROM
3:12:40PM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AS WELL.
3:12:42PM AGAIN OBVIOUSLY NOT A PROBLEM WITH STAFF, AND FOR THE
3:12:44PM GENTLEMAN AT ACCELA.
3:12:45PM WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND WHATNOT.
3:12:48PM THE THINGS THAT I HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM FOLKS ARE
3:12:51PM BREAKDOWNS, SYSTEM BEING DOWN, LIKE YOU SAID, THE SEARCH
3:12:55PM ISSUE, AND THEN WHAT'S CALLED, I GUESS, THE TRIAGE TEAM
3:12:58PM WHICH IS WHEN SOMETHING IS DOWN TO GET HELP.
3:13:01PM JUST SOME OF THE ISSUES.
3:13:02PM AND WE DON'T WANT TO DURN THIS THING INTO A WORKSHOP.
3:13:08PM WE CAN GET MR. MICHELINI BACK UP HERE, MAYBE SOMEBODY TO
3:13:11PM T.H.A.N. TO COME SPEAK ABOUT THIS ISSUES.
3:13:14PM WHAT I WANT TO HAVE IS A SHORT-TERM AGENDA WHERE WE CAN DEAL
3:13:17PM WITH THE ISSUES THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH WITHIN THE NEXT 30
3:13:20PM DAYS OR SO, MORE OR LESS, AND THEN LOOK AT A LONGER-TERM
3:13:24PM AGENDA TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE LONGER TERM ISSUES.
3:13:26PM SO I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION ON THAT IF I MAY AND ALSO
3:13:30PM ASKING STAFF AND ACCELA TO MEET NOT ONLY WITH THE BUILDERS
3:13:33PM ASSOCIATION BUT ALSO WITH NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS AS WELL, ALL OF
3:13:35PM THE PUBLIC THAT DEALS WITH THIS ISSUE, AND WHILE THERE MAY
3:13:38PM NOT BE A TO OF INDIVIDUAL COMPLAINTS, WHEN WE HAVE
3:13:42PM ORGANIZATIONS THAT REPRESENT MANY PEOPLE, AND STAKEHOLDERS
3:13:45PM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, I OBJECT GET THAT DEFERENCE, AND AGAIN
3:13:49PM IT IS MY BELIEF THAT T.H.A.N. HAS ISSUED SOME CHALLENGES ON
3:13:55PM THIS, IF THEY HAVEN'T MY APOLOGIES.
3:13:57PM IT IS MY BELIEF, MY QUALIFICATIONS ON THAT.
3:14:00PM SO MR. CHAIR, AT THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION, MAY I MAKE A
3:14:03PM BRIEF MOTION?
3:14:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE.
3:14:07PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:14:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:14:10PM I KNOW THAT A BIG CAUSE FOR THIS WAS A LARGE JUMP.
3:14:13PM I BELIEVE WE WENT FROM ACCELA 6-POINT SOMETHING TO 14 POINT
3:14:19PM SOMETHING.
3:14:20PM 9 TO 25.
3:14:21PM OKAY, THAT'S BIGGER.
3:14:22PM SO THAT'S A HUGE LEAP.
3:14:24PM AND YOU ARE EXPECTING PEOPLE TO AUTOMATICALLY MAKE THOSE
3:14:28PM JUMPS THEMSELVES.
3:14:31PM AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATE AND NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER WHO
3:14:34PM FOCUSED ON LAND USE FOR OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
3:14:37PM ASSOCIATION BEFORE I JOINED COUNCIL, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME
3:14:39PM ON ACCELA TRYING TO TEACH MYSELF HOW TO USE IT.
3:14:43PM FOR ME, THE ADDRESS NEVER WORKED.
3:14:44PM THE ADDRESS SEARCH.
3:14:46PM IT WAS INCREDIBLY HARD TO FIND NAMES.
3:14:50PM SO IN ADDITION TO TRYING TO FIX THE ADDRESS SEARCH FUNCTION,
3:14:54PM ONE OF THE THINGS I REALLY LOVED, AND I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT
3:14:57PM THIS ON TUESDAY, IS GETTING SOME TYPE OF TRAINING TOGETHER,
3:15:03PM IN-PERSON TRAINING FOR NEIGHBORHOODS, FOR POSSIBLY TBBA
3:15:08PM MEMBERS, SPECIAL SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD DO, OTHER MEMBERS
3:15:11PM OF THE PUBLIC.
3:15:15PM I MEAN, OFFER SOME IN-PERSON AND POSSIBLY VIDEOTAPE SOME OF
3:15:18PM THOSE SO THAT FOLKS CAN GO ON TO OUR WEBSITE, WATCH THEM,
3:15:22PM TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE THE SYSTEM A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
3:15:26PM THERE'S A HUGE LEAP, 13 DIFFERENT VERSIONS?
3:15:31PM THAT'S A LOT TO EXPECT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO INTUITIVELY HOP
3:15:36PM INTO.
3:15:36PM SO I WOULD REALLY -- I THINK TRAINING, AND MORE
3:15:41PM COMMUNICATION WITH THESE GROUPS, WOULD ABSOLUTELY HELP
3:15:45PM BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE TOOL, OBVIOUSLY FOR THE
3:15:49PM FOLKS WHO PUT IN THE PERMITS AND THINGS, BUT FOR
3:15:52PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
3:15:52PM I DON'T NEED ACCELA ANY MORE BECAUSE WE ARE ONLY SUPPOSED TO
3:15:57PM LOOK AT THE DOCUMENTS IN SIRE SO I DON'T GO BACK AND LOOK AT
3:16:00PM OTHER THINGS, BUT WHEN I WAS USING IT, IT WAS A LITTLE
3:16:03PM DIFFICULT SO I AM GLAD THAT WE HAVE UPGRADED IT BUT
3:16:06PM HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO SOMETHING.
3:16:08PM I'M HAPPY TO SECOND YOUR MOTION, COUNCILMAN VIERA, ON WHAT
3:16:12PM WE CAN DO TO REALLY MOVE THIS FORWARD, THE END USERS, WHICH
3:16:16PM IS THE PUBLIC.
3:16:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:16:19PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: AND IF I CAN FOR A MINUTE --
3:16:25PM >> YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
3:16:26PM >> THANK YOU.
3:16:28PM MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT ERIC COTTON AND MYSELF ZONING 1.01, WE
3:16:34PM ARE DOING THAT AGAIN, COMING UP.
3:16:36PM IT WAS AN IN-PERSON ZONING.
3:16:39PM I HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF TALKING ABOUT OFFER
3:16:43PM THAT ACCELA 1.01, AND ALSO WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT DOING SHORT
3:16:53PM ONE-MINUTE, TWO-MINUTE TUTORIALS.
3:16:55PM "I'M AT THE SEARCH BAR NOW, WHAT DO I DO?" KIND OF THING.
3:16:59PM SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
3:17:00PM ALSO JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:17:02PM I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW INTERNALLY, WE DO HAVE THAT
3:17:07PM SHORT-TERM, LONG-TERM, AS WELL AS WEEKLY MEETINGS BETWEEN
3:17:11PM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TEAM AND T&I AND ACCELA TO GO OVER WHAT
3:17:18PM OUR STATUS FOR SHORT TERM, WHAT IS THE STATUS IN LONG-TERM.
3:17:22PM WHEN WE APPROACHED THE LIFT AND SHIFT, WE HAD A VERY ROBUST
3:17:25PM LIST OF THINGS, BECAUSE THE SPLIT HAS BEEN BAND-AIDED SO
3:17:32PM MUCH OVER THE YEARS TO MAKE THE THINGS YOU ARE SEEING ON THE
3:17:36PM CUSTOMER SIDE HAPPEN, THAT NOW WE LEARNED FROM THAT
3:17:38PM EXPERIENCE TO GRAB ONTO THE FOUR OR FIVE BIG ITEMS AND KNOCK
3:17:43PM THOSE OUT AND THEN TAKE ON THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE, VERSUS
3:17:46PM STARTING 20 AT ONCE AND GETTING JUST INCREMENTAL PROGRESS.
3:17:51PM SO THAT'S ONE INTERNAL PROCESS, TO SAY, OKAY, WE WERE DOING
3:17:56PM IT THIS WAY IN THE PAST, WE ARE GOING TO DO IT THIS WAY
3:17:58PM MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE THAT REALLY GETS THE MOST BANG FOR
3:18:02PM THE BUCK FOR OUR CITIZENS TO SEE THOSE THINGS CHANGING.
3:18:07PM ONE OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH CREATING NOT AN OPEN BUT A
3:18:15PM PROCESS WITHIN ACCELA BY GEOGRAPHIC REGION.
3:18:20PM RIGHT I KNOW WE ARE STILL DOING THAT BY A HUMAN PERSON.
3:18:22PM SO THAT'S ONE OF OUR TOP FIVE WE ARE WORKING OWN NOW THROUGH
3:18:25PM THE OPTIMIZATION AND BEING IN THE CLOUD AND HAVING THE
3:18:28PM NEWEST VERSION OF ACCELA, AND THAT IS HAPPENING HERE
3:18:32PM SHORTLY.
3:18:32PM IT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY, CREATING A PROCESS FOR OUR HISTORIC
3:18:38PM PRESERVATION APPLICATIONS.
3:18:39PM WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE OF THOSE.
3:18:41PM SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO OPTIMIZE THE SYSTEM AND ARE LOOKING
3:18:45PM AT IT EXACTLY HOW YOU SAID.
3:18:47PM THOSE SHORTER-TERM, THOSE LONGER-TERM, AND MAKING SURE THAT
3:18:51PM WE ARE PROVIDING THE BEST.
3:18:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:19:01PM SORRY, I SAW YOU THE EFFICIENCY TIME, BUT THAT WAS TEN
3:19:05PM MINUTES AGO.
3:19:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY TWO THINGS.
3:19:08PM ONE, I MENTIONED ON THE CALL THE OTHER DAY, I WOULD LIKE TO
3:19:11PM SEE SOME INTEGRATION WITH SIRE.
3:19:13PM I THINK IT'S CONFUSING WHEN RESIDENTS OR NEIGHBORHOOD
3:19:17PM LEADERS COME IN, MAYBE EVEN BUILDERS, WHERE THINGS ARE, WHAT
3:19:22PM THE GENESIS OF PROJECTS WERE, AND THEN SEE SOME LEVEL OF
3:19:27PM INTEGRATION THERE.
3:19:29PM THE SECOND THING IS, THREE OR SO YEARS AGO, I REMEMBER THERE
3:19:33PM WERE COMPLAINTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT SOME OF
3:19:36PM THE CITY STAFF, REAL ESTATE, WERE NOT TRAINED FOR ACCELA.
3:19:40PM THAT WAS BEFORE MS. FEELEY CAME BACK.
3:19:42PM BUT NOW WE ARE JUMPING 13 GENERATIONS.
3:19:50PM I WOULD JUST ASK, I DON'T NOT WHAT THE CURRENT STATUS IS.
3:19:53PM I THINK A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN.
3:19:55PM BUT THERE WERE A LOT OF FRUSTRATIONS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT
3:19:57PM COMMUNITY THAT SAID THAT THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE VERY --
3:20:02PM THEY KNEW HOW TO USE ACCELA BUT SOME OF THE STAFF DIDN'T.
3:20:06PM SO TO THE EXTENT THAT EXISTS, IF WE COULD PLEASE DO TRAINING
3:20:08PM TO BRING EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED SO IT ALL GOES QUICKER.
3:20:11PM THANK YOU.
3:20:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
3:20:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL MAKE A MOTION IF I MAY TO HAVE THIS,
3:20:21PM AND I WILL MAKE A LONG-TERM MOTION ON THIS DATE BUT TO HAVE
3:20:25PM THIS RETURN ON MARCH 2nd OF 2023 TO DEAL WITH FOR -- AND
3:20:30PM THE GENTLEMAN FROM ACCELA, I'M SORRY, WHAT'S YOUR NAME?
3:20:34PM >> I'M JEFFRIES FROM ACCELA.
3:20:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: ARE YOU LOCAL?
3:20:39PM >> I LIVE IN PORT CHARLOTTE.
3:20:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO YOU DO QUITE THE DRIVE.
3:20:44PM WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE.
3:20:46PM AND ARE THERE ANY ACCELA REPRESENTATIVES HERE LOCALLY OR ARE
3:20:49PM YOU THE NEAREST ONE?
3:20:51PM >> WE HAVE THEM ALL OVER.
3:20:53PM THERE ARE SOME THAT LIVE IN THE TAMPA BAY REGION, THOUGH.
3:20:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST MAKING SURE IN THAT REGARD.
3:21:03PM SO IF I MAY, I MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS TO RETURN ON MARCH
3:21:06PM 2nd OF 2023 TO ADDRESS THE FOLLOWING ISSUES.
3:21:10PM AND IT WILL BE OPEN TO OTHERS AS WELL.
3:21:13PM THE QUOTE-UNQUOTE SYSTEM DOWN.
3:21:15PM THE SEARCH ISSUE.
3:21:17PM LIKE I SAID, THE TRIAGE HELP, IF YOU WILL, FOR SYSTEM BEING
3:21:22PM DOWN AND OTHER DIFFERENT CHALLENGES.
3:21:24PM AND ALSO TO MEET WITH TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AS WELL
3:21:27PM AS T.H.A.N. REGARDING ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY MAY HAVE THAT
3:21:31PM MAY BE REMEDIED WITHIN THE NEXT 30 OR SO DAYS.
3:21:35PM IF I AM MISSING ANYTHING, I DON'T KNOW IF MR. MICHELINI OR
3:21:38PM ANYBODY FROM T.H.A.N. IS HERE AS WELL.
3:21:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT THE MOTION?
3:21:46PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:21:47PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:21:50PM BEFORE WE GO INTO VOTE, MAY WE QUICKLY HEAR FROM MR.
3:21:54PM MICHELINI, QUICKLY?
3:21:57PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
3:21:58PM I THINK THERE IS A COUPLE THINGS.
3:21:59PM THERE USED TO BE AN I.T. PERSON DEDICATED TO SOLVING
3:22:03PM PROBLEMS ON-SITE THAT WAS AT CONSTRUCTION SERVICES AND THEY
3:22:07PM CAN JUMP ON THINGS IMMEDIATELY.
3:22:09PM THAT POSITION WAS SHIFTED SO THAT NOW ALL THE CONTROL IS
3:22:12PM WITH ACCELA, IT'S REMOTE.
3:22:14PM SO WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE IN THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ACCORDING
3:22:18PM TO THE CITY I.T. DEPARTMENT, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE
3:22:20PM CODES ON HOW TO SOLVE THINGS IMMEDIATELY.
3:22:24PM IT WOULD BE USEFUL IF WE HAD A DEDICATED PERSON.
3:22:27PM AND I KNOW THAT ABBYE WAS TALKING ABOUT TUTORIALS AND ALL
3:22:31PM THAT.
3:22:31PM BUT IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO HAVE AN I.T. PERSON DEDICATED TO
3:22:35PM SOLVING PROBLEMS WITH ACCELA, WITH A PHONE NUMBER ON THE
3:22:37PM FORMS THAT SAID, OKAY, YOU GOT A PROBLEM, CALL HERE.
3:22:41PM NOW, WHEN YOU GET LOCKED OUT, AND YOU ARE ON A TIME SCHEDULE
3:22:44PM THAT'S CRITICAL, YOU MAY VERY WELL MISS THAT SCHEDULE.
3:22:49PM AND AS YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTS THAT COME TO CITY
3:22:52PM COUNCIL ARE TIME SENSITIVE.
3:22:53PM SO THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
3:22:57PM I KNOW THAT ACCELA IS TRYING TO RESOLVE SOME OF THESE
3:23:01PM THINGS.
3:23:01PM BUT WHEN YOU ARE STOPPED, AND YOU ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE,
3:23:06PM AND I KNOW -- I DON'T HAVE ANY COMPLAINT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF
3:23:09PM PERMITS THAT ARE BEING PROCESSED.
3:23:11PM IT'S THE DIFFICULTY OF GOING THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
3:23:14PM IT'S NOT SO MUCH THE EXERCISE WHEN YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE
3:23:17PM PROCESS.
3:23:18PM IT'S THE SOFTWARE THAT HAS SOME GLITCHES IN IT.
3:23:22PM AND SOMEBODY FACETIOUSLY MENTIONED THEY WILL HIRE THREE
3:23:26PM GRADUATE STUDENTS FROM USF AND HAVE IT DONE IN A DAY.
3:23:31PM I AM NOT SAYING THAT.
3:23:32PM I AM JUST SAYING ACCELA REPRESENTATIVES NEED TO FOCUS ON
3:23:36PM SOLVING THE PROBLEMS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
3:23:39PM WE ARE NOT TRYING TO GO ANYWHERE ELSE.
3:23:41PM I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY BETTER ALTERNATIVES.
3:23:43PM JUST PLEASE FIX THE SYSTEM QUICKLY.
3:23:45PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: MAY I RESPOND TO THAT?
3:23:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. FEELEY, YES.
3:23:53PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
3:23:54PM I DO HAVE TWO PROGRAMMERS THAT ARE HERE IN THE CONSTRUCTION
3:23:58PM SERVICES CENTER, KEVIN ROMANO AND MARK OSBORNE, AND THEY ARE
3:24:06PM WORKING DIRECTLY WITH ACCELA TO RESOLVE THOSE MATTERS, THEY
3:24:11PM ARE HERE EVERY DAY, SO I AM NOT SURE WHERE THAT MAY HAVE
3:24:16PM COME UP THAT THERE'S NO ONE HERE.
3:24:19PM THERE DEFINITELY IS.
3:24:20PM NUMBER TWO IS, I THINK IN THE LOCKOUT, WHAT IS BEING
3:24:25PM REFERRED TO AS LOCKOUT OF THE SYSTEM DOWN, INITIALLY, THERE
3:24:29PM WAS A TIME-OUT OF THE SYSTEM, AND IT WAS, I THINK, HAPPENING
3:24:36PM WHEN PEOPLE WERE UPLOADING THEIR APPLICATIONS, THEY WERE
3:24:39PM GETTING TIMED OUT, BECAUSE OFTENTIMES ON THE DEVELOPMENT
3:24:41PM SIDE, AND I CAN SPEAK TO THIS HAVING FILED APPLICATIONS IN
3:24:46PM ACCELA MYSELF IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, YOU ARE UPLOADING SITE
3:24:49PM PLANS, UPLOADING APPLICATIONS, EXHIBITS, OTHER THINGS, AND
3:24:52PM THE SYSTEM WAS TIMING OUT.
3:24:55PM I KNOW THAT WE EXTENDED THAT TIME NOW, THAT SHOULD NOT BE
3:25:00PM HAPPENING.
3:25:00PM WE DID MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT ALREADY SO I AM HAPPY TO REPORT
3:25:07PM BACK TO THAT ON MARCH 2nd WITH THE TEAM, BUT WE DID GO
3:25:09PM AHEAD AND ALREADY MAKE THAT ADJUSTMENT SO THAT PEOPLE ARE
3:25:13PM NOT GETTING TIMED OUT OR KICKED OUT AND HAVING TO GO IN AND
3:25:17PM THEN RESTART THE RECORD AGAIN.
3:25:22PM AND WE DO HAVE THOSE TWO PEOPLE HERE.
3:25:25PM SO WE ARE WORKING ON IT, THIS NEW VERSION IS A CHALLENGE.
3:25:28PM I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR CLIENT FACILITATORS.
3:25:34PM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO BE CALLING MARK AND KEVIN
3:25:38PM DIRECTLY.
3:25:39PM WE HAVE OUR TEAM THAT IS TRAINED, THAT IT PROVIDES THAT
3:25:43PM FRONT LINE THAT IS A LARGER GROUP THAT'S MORE THAN JUST
3:25:47PM THOSE TWO PEOPLE.
3:25:48PM BUT I AM HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THAT WITH MR.
3:25:51PM MICHELINI AS ALWAYS.
3:25:53PM WE WANT THIS TO BE THE BEST THAT IT CAN BE.
3:25:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
3:25:59PM SO I MADE THE MOTION THE ISSUES THAT MR. MICHELINI TALKED
3:26:04PM ABOUT INCLUDING THE I.T. ASSISTANCE.
3:26:06PM AND AGAIN I THANK THE GENTLEMAN FROM ACCELA FOR COMING ALL
3:26:10PM THE WAY AND I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR PATIENCE, SIR.
3:26:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU SECOND THE AMENDMENT.
3:26:16PM WE HAVE --
3:26:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND SIRE.
3:26:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY MR. VIERA, SECOND BY MS. HURTAK.
3:26:31PM WE HAVE NOT -- YES, SIR?
3:26:39PM WHO ARE YOU, IF I MAY ASK?
3:26:41PM AND I KNOW YOU ARE PROBABLY A CONCERNED CITIZEN.
3:26:43PM BUT PLEASE MAKE IT RATHER QUICK.
3:26:49PM THIS IS A STAFF REPORT, IT ISN'T A PUBLIC HEARING.
3:26:51PM >> MY NAME IS AUSTIN DOFF.
3:26:54PM I HEARD YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT ACCELA.
3:26:56PM A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT HELP OUT, IF YOU USE
3:27:00PM LIKE A NET SEARCH.
3:27:01PM A LOT OF TIMES LOOKING FOR HELP ON A PROJECT, IF YOU TYPE
3:27:07PM YOUR ADDRESS IN INCORRECTLY IT WILL NOT COME UP.
3:27:10PM SO IF YOU ARE ON PROPERTY A WEBSITE OR SWFWMD, YOU CAN LOOK
3:27:14PM UP YOUR ADDRESS ON A MAP.
3:27:17PM SO IT'S EASIER FOR YOU TO FIND IT.
3:27:20PM SECOND THING I WOULD DO, IF THERE IS ANY WAY THAT THE
3:27:25PM CONTRACTOR, THE OWNER, HAD THEIR UTILITY PERMIT NUMBER FOR
3:27:31PM THE RECORD WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO CLOSE A PROJECT OUT, THEY
3:27:33PM DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF UTILITY HOLES THAT THEY HAVEN'T LINKED
3:27:38PM THEIR CONSTRUCTION PERMIT NUMBER TO IT WOULD HELP THEM CLOSE
3:27:44PM OUT THEIR PROJECT SMOOTHER.
3:27:47PM AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY COULD HAVE A NOTICE SENT TO
3:27:51PM SOMEONE ELSE WHEN THE REVIEWS ARE PAST DUE.
3:27:57PM THAT WAY, THEY DON'T JUST KIND OF PASS THE DUE DATE AND
3:28:01PM NOBODY KNOWS IT'S HAPPENED, AND COULD HELP ALL.
3:28:08PM SO HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE PAST THE DUE DATE?
3:28:13PM THANK YOU.
3:28:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR IN FUTURE.
3:28:15PM WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
3:28:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:28:19PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
3:28:21PM WE ARE NOT POINTING FINGERS AT ANYBODY.
3:28:24PM I THINK IF WHOLE OBJECTIVE WAS TO MAKE SURE IT'S SIMPLER,
3:28:27PM EASIER, BUT FOR THE CITIZENS, FOR THE STAFF, FOR THE
3:28:30PM DEVELOPERS, FOR ANYBODY WHO IS LOOKING UP INFORMATION OR
3:28:33PM WANTING TO COMPLETE PROJECTS.
3:28:36PM THE SOONER WE GET COs TO THESE PEOPLE, DON'T TAKE THIS THE
3:28:41PM WRONG WAY, BUT THE SOONER WE CAN COLLECT TAXES ON THEM.
3:28:44PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:28:45PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:28:47PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:28:48PM THANK YOU.
3:28:48PM MOTION PASSES.
3:28:50PM MR. SHELBY.
3:28:57PM THE RESOLUTION?
3:29:11PM AGENDA ITEM 82?
3:29:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 17 WAS CONTINUED TO MARCH 23rd.
3:29:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ALREADY TOOK CARE OF THAT.
3:29:22PM MR. BHIDE.
3:29:23PM >>VIK BHIDE: DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO ADDRESS
3:29:29PM ITEM 82 WHICH IS NOW ITEM 20.
3:29:34PM THIS ITEM IS RELATED TO TWO SEPARATE SIDEWALKS BUILDING
3:29:45PM CONTRACTS.
3:29:45PM THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LONG LIST OF
3:29:48PM PROJECTS IN THE QUEUE.
3:29:50PM AWARDS IN GENERAL CONSTRUCTION WHICH IS BUSINESS ENTERPRISE
3:29:57PM AND SMALL LOCAL BUSINESS, AND TAMPA BAY CONSTRUCTION AND
3:30:00PM ENGINEERING, WHICH HAS 19.2% DBE PARTIAL AND IS ALSO A SMALL
3:30:11PM LOCAL BUSINESS, THE PRIME CONTRACTOR.
3:30:13PM THESE CONTRACTS WILL BE USED FOR BUILDING SIDEWALKS BUT ALSO
3:30:18PM OTHER WORK RELATED TO BUILDING SIDEWALKS ON THE
3:30:25PM RIGHT-OF-WAY.
3:30:25PM SOME EARLY PROJECTS WITH THIS, THE FIRST ONE WILL BE 9th
3:30:29PM STREET SO LINEBAUGH, PRESCOTT, INGRAM STREET, LYNN AVENUE,
3:30:40PM BAY TO BAY, HIMES, OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, HUBERT.
3:30:44PM THOSE ARE THE TOP PROJECTS.
3:30:46PM SO PRETTY MUCH ALL ACROSS THE CITY YOU WILL START TO SEE
3:30:50PM SIDEWALK WORK SHOULD YOU APPROVE THESE.
3:30:53PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
3:30:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:30:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY, YAY, 3.6 MILLION, THAT'S
3:31:01PM 3.6 TIMES OUR NORMAL SIDEWALK BUDGET, SO THAT IS PHENOMENAL.
3:31:07PM AND I WOULD LOVE IF YOU COULD SEND ME AND PROBABLY ALL OF US
3:31:11PM THAT LIST OF TOP TEN SO THAT, ONE, BECAUSE THIS NEWS WILL
3:31:15PM GET OUT AND THEY WILL BE COMING TO ASK, WHAT ARE THE TOP TEN
3:31:19PM PROJECTS?
3:31:19PM SO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO LET THEM KNOW THAT.
3:31:22PM AND AGAIN I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
3:31:24PM WHEN I SAW THIS, I KNEW THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD BE VERY
3:31:26PM EXCITED ABOUT IT.
3:31:27PM SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNEW THAT WE ARE LISTENING
3:31:30PM TO THEM, AND SIDEWALKS ARE COMING.
3:31:32PM >>VIK BHIDE: AND THIS WILL BE IN AN E-MAIL WITHIN FIVE
3:31:40PM MINUTES.
3:31:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
3:31:44PM VIK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:31:45PM I KNOW THAT YOU JUST MADE TAYLOR RALPH VERY HAPPY AND YOU
3:31:48PM PROBABLY MADE ALL THE PARENTS AND KIDS THAT GO TO ROOSEVELT
3:31:52PM ELEMENTARY VERY HAPPY.
3:31:53PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:31:55PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, THIS IS YOUR AGENDA ITEM.
3:31:59PM EXCUSE ME, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.
3:32:01PM DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL CONSENT AGENDA OR PASS THIS NOW?
3:32:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE TO PASS THIS ITEM.
3:32:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
3:32:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:32:10PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:32:12PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:32:13PM ALL RIGHT.
3:32:18PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19.
3:32:20PM FILE E-2023-8 CHAPTER 27.
3:32:24PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
3:32:33PM COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT
3:32:36PM AMENDMENT.
3:32:37PM THE APPLICANT IS TYLER HUDSON AND ALEX SCHALER, AND THIS
3:32:44PM REQUEST IS PART OF THE JANUARY 2022 CYCLE, AND AS YOU ARE
3:32:48PM AWARE, COUNCIL, WE NO LONGER PROCESS PRIVATELY INITIATED
3:32:52PM TEXT AMENDMENTS SO THIS IS PART OF THE LAST CYCLE OF THE
3:32:55PM PRIVATE AMENDMENTS OF THAT REMAINS UNDER THAT CYCLE.
3:32:58PM SO THIS REQUIRES US TO AMEND SECTIONS OF THE CODE, SECTIONS
3:33:03PM OF 27 ZONING CODE RELATING TO PARKING STANDARDS, LANDSCAPE
3:33:08PM STANDARDS, THE CBD PERIPHERY.
3:33:11PM I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER NOW SINCE THIS IS A PRIVATE
3:33:13PM AMENDMENT TO ALEX SCHALER.
3:33:16PM I BELIEVE SHE IS THERE AT COUNCIL TO PRESENT.
3:33:20PM >>TYLER HUDSON: 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
3:33:24PM I THINK WE HAVE A PowerPoint IF YOU COULD QUEUE THAT UP.
3:33:28PM VERY MINDFUL OF TIME ON THIS.
3:33:47PM THIS IS AN EXTREMELY LIMITED TEXT AMENDMENT THAT YOU HAVE
3:33:50PM BEFORE YOU IN TERMS OF GEOGRAPHY.
3:33:52PM IT DOES NOT AFFECT SOUTH TAMPA.
3:33:54PM IT DOES NOT AFFECT NORTH TAMPA.
3:33:55PM IT DOES NOT AFFECT WEST TAMPA.
3:33:57PM IT DOES NOT EAST TAMPA.
3:34:00PM ONLY THE AREA THAT IS RIGHT AROUND THE PERIPHERY OF
3:34:02PM DOWNTOWN, AND IS DESCRIBED IN THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
3:34:06PM APPROPRIATELY AS THE CBD PERIPHERY.
3:34:09PM IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, TALKING ABOUT TAMPA
3:34:13PM HEIGHTS, SOUTH OF PALM, TALKING ABOUT CHANNEL DISTRICT, A
3:34:16PM LITTLE PORTION OF YBOR CITY, BUT GAS WORX AT THIS POINT AND
3:34:23PM A LITTLE BIT WEST OF THE RIVER.
3:34:25PM THE CBD PERIPHERY IS A SPECIAL PLACE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
3:34:29PM PLAN FOR ONE REASON.
3:34:30PM YOU ARE ABLE TO DOUBLE UP YOUR DENSITY THERE.
3:34:33PM THAT'S WHEN YOU FREQUENTLY SEE THE BONUS AGREEMENTS THAT WE
3:34:35PM BRING BEFORE YOU, WHETHER THERE'S 10% AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
3:34:41PM THOSE ARE ALWAYS PDs AND AS COUNCIL KNOWS VERY WELL IT'S A
3:34:45PM PD, IT'S GOING TO HAVE WAIVERS.
3:34:47PM THE PURPOSE OF THIS PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT SEEMED IS TO
3:34:52PM LIMIT THE NEED FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF WAIVERS THAT THIS
3:34:55PM COUNCIL GRANTS VERY FREELY BECAUSE THEY ARE SO OBVIOUSLY
3:35:01PM NEEDED, BECAUSE THE CODE IS SO OBVIOUSLY OUT OF STEP WITH
3:35:04PM THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT YOU SEE IN THE CBD PERIPHERY.
3:35:08PM SO TO SHOW YOU THE AREA THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, IT
3:35:12PM INCLUDES THE CBD ITSELF.
3:35:13PM AND ONE NOTE, TOO, AND COUNCIL IS CERTAINLY AWARE OF THIS,
3:35:13PM YOU ALL DON'T ACTUALLY APPROVE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE CBD
3:35:21PM THAT ARE DOWNTOWN.
3:35:22PM THOSE ARE UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW PROCESS.
3:35:26PM SO RATHER THAN EXPANDING THE CBD WHICH WOULD HAVE THE SAME
3:35:29PM EFFECT OF WHAT WE ARE SEEKING HERE THAT WOULD LIMIT THE
3:35:31PM PROJECTS YOU HAVE JURISDICTION OVER.
3:35:33PM WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT.
3:35:34PM BUT THE CBD PERIPHERY IS A REGULATORY TOOL IN THE
3:35:38PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND GIVEN THE FACT THAT YOU DOUBLE
3:35:44PM DENSITY, THE PROJECTS ARE OF A CERTAIN SIZE, THAT MIGHT MAKE
3:35:49PM MORE SENSE IN MORE SUBURBAN PORTIONS OF THE CITY BUT DON'T
3:35:53PM MAKE SENSE IN THE AREA OF DOWNTOWN.
3:35:54PM I THINK EVERYONE WOULD AGREE IT COULD HANDLE A SIGNIFICANT
3:36:00PM AMOUNT OF GROWTH.
3:36:01PM THE PROJECTS IN THE CBD PERIPHERY ARE TYPICALLY NOT ONES FOR
3:36:05PM WHICH THE EXCEPTION OF AN COUNCIL PROJECT ON THE ISLAND, OR
3:36:10PM DOWNTOWN.
3:36:10PM TYPICALLY YOU ARE NOT SEEING A GROUND SWELL OF OPPOSITION
3:36:14PM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT IN AREAS -- THEY ARE IN AREAS WHERE
3:36:17PM MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IS PRETTY PREVALENT.
3:36:19PM I WILL TALK ABOUT ONE OF THESE AND AMEX WILL TALK ABOUT
3:36:22PM ANOTHER.
3:36:23PM RIGHT NOW PARKING IS A BIT OF A PATCHWORK IN THE CITY WHERE
3:36:27PM YOU HAVE STANDARDS THAT APPLY DOWNTOWN, IN THE CHANNEL
3:36:28PM DISTRICT, YOU HAVE STANDARDS THAT APPLY IN YBOR CITY.
3:36:32PM AND I THINK COUNCIL YOU MIGHT REMEMBER CORRECT FREQUENT LIB
3:36:34PM WHEN I BRING PRODUCTS BEFORE YOU I WILL SHOW YOU A SHORT
3:36:37PM SHOWING HERE ARE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED IN
3:36:40PM THIS PROJECT, BUT IT GOES A FEW BLOCKS AWAY IN YBOR, FOR
3:36:43PM EXAMPLE, IT WOULD REQUIRE A THIRD OF THOSE SPACES, BECAUSE
3:36:45PM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IT WOULD REQUIRE A FOURTH OF THE
3:36:48PM SPACES.
3:36:48PM THE INTENT OF THIS IS JUST TO HARMONIZE FOR THE VISITOR
3:36:53PM PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT IF THEY ARE IN THAT CBD PERIPHERY,
3:36:57PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE GUEST PARKING SPACES.
3:37:00PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM IN YBOR, YOU DON'T PROVIDE
3:37:02PM THEM IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICTS OR DOWNTOWN.
3:37:05PM AND THE GUEST SPACE REQUIREMENT IS ONE SPACE FOR EVERY 4
3:37:10PM DWELLING UNITS.
3:37:11PM AND THEY ARE PRETTY LARGE SCALE PROJECTS IN THE AREA, 250,
3:37:16PM 300 UNITS.
3:37:17PM THAT ADDS UP AND PARKINGS HAS A COST.
3:37:19PM PARKING GARAGES ARE OFTEN TASKED IN PLACE, IT'S ONLY ABOUT
3:37:26PM LIKE 10,000 OR 15,000.
3:37:27PM A LOT OF THESE HAVE CERTAIN CONFIGURATIONS SO HAVING ACCESS
3:37:32PM PARKING IT HAS A COST IN TERMS OF THE OPPORTUNITY COST,
3:37:37PM STREETSCAPING OPPORTUNITIES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
3:37:39PM COUNCIL IS FAMILIAR WITH PARKING REDUCTIONS.
3:37:41PM WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS FOCUS SPECIFICALLY ON VISITOR
3:37:43PM PARKING REQUIREMENT WHICH AGAIN YOU DON'T DO IT DOWNTOWN,
3:37:46PM YOU DON'T DO IT IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT, DON'T DO IT IN YBOR
3:37:49PM CITY.
3:37:49PM WE DON'T THINK IT SHOULD APPLY EITHER TO THIS OTHER PART OF
3:37:52PM TAMPA HEIGHTS, ONLY THE REMAINING PART OF THE CBD PERIPHERY
3:37:56PM THAT'S NOT BUILT OUT.
3:37:58PM AND WE ALSO -- AND THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING -- TO BE ABLE
3:38:02PM TO USE THE ON-STREET PARKING, THAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR
3:38:06PM BUILDING FOR A PORTION OF YOUR REQUIRED PARKING.
3:38:09PM RIGHT NOW AS COUNCIL WELL KNOWS, YOU WILL HEAR IT, THAT'S ON
3:38:12PM STREET, CAN'T COUNT IT.
3:38:14PM MIGHT BE THERE BUT YOU CAN'T COUNT IT.
3:38:16PM WE ARE NOT SAYING IT SHOULD COUNT FOR EVERYTHING BUT AT
3:38:18PM LEAST UP TO 25% OF REQUIRED SPACES, FOR A LARGE PROJECT IT'S
3:38:22PM NOT GOING TO GET ANYWHERE NEAR 25% BUT IF THE DEVELOPER
3:38:26PM AGREES TO CONTINUE THOSE SPACES THEY ARE LITERALLY RIGHT IN
3:38:28PM FRONT, I THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE TO NOT ALLOW THOSE TO COUNT
3:38:32PM TOWARD DEVELOPMENT.
3:38:32PM THIS IS A VERY COMMON DIVISION AND R IN A LOT OF THE CITY'S
3:38:36PM CODES ESPECIALLY IN MORE DOWNTOWN URBAN AREAS.
3:38:39PM I THINK IT'S PERFECT FOR I DON'T, THE TAMPA HEIGHTS AREA, WE
3:38:48PM HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSE WITH STAFF FOR WELL OVER A YEAR NOW
3:38:51PM AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S A STRONG SENSE OF OPPOSITION.
3:38:54PM WITH THAT, ALEX WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHERS.
3:39:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:39:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [OFF MICROPHONE] THE FINE SUNSET
3:39:09PM PROPERTY TAKES THEM TO, WHAT, VACANT, WHO OWNS IT?
3:39:15PM >>TYLER HUDSON: FOR THE ON-STREET PARKING?
3:39:16PM I THINK IT WOULD BE ON THE FRONT.
3:39:18PM SO IF IT TOUCHES THE BOUNDARY OF THE SITES, IF IT'S
3:39:23PM CONGRUENT WITH THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY IT WOULD BE ABLE TO
3:39:26PM COUNT.
3:39:27PM IT WOULDN'T COUNT IF IT WAS ACROSS THE STREET.
3:39:29PM BUT IF YOU HAVE A NICE CITY BLOCK, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THERE
3:39:33PM ARE LET'S CALL IT 24 PARKING SPACES AROUND THE BLOCK, RIGHT
3:39:37PM NOW THERE'S 24 PARKING, CAN'T COUNT TOWARDS YOUR PARKING.
3:39:41PM THIS WOULD ALLOW YOU TO COUNT THOSE 24 SPACES TOWARDS --
3:39:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT DISPUTING UP BUT WHAT ABOUT
3:39:48PM ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE STATION, 25 HOUSES? WHOSE
3:39:53PM PARKING IS IT THEN?
3:39:54PM ANYBODY'S?
3:39:55PM >>TYLER HUDSON: IT'S STILL ANYBODY'S BUT IF IT'S ON YOUR
3:39:58PM FRONTAGE --
3:40:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE CAN YOU PARK ON THE STREET IT BELONGS
3:40:01PM TO ANYBODY.
3:40:02PM >>TYLER HUDSON: THAT'S RIGHT.
3:40:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO YOU CAN'T BLOCK SOMEBODY'S INGRESS
3:40:07PM AND EGRESS.
3:40:09PM >>TYLER HUDSON: BUT IT WOULDN'T BE CONTROLLED THE SAME WAY.
3:40:11PM NO QUESTION ON THAT.
3:40:12PM THEY WOULD NOT BE RESTRICTED.
3:40:14PM THE THOUGHT IS MOST LIKELY, MORE LIKELY USED FOR
3:40:17PM DEVELOPMENT.
3:40:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IN I MAY FOLLOW UP ON COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S
3:40:27PM QUESTION, THEN IF THEY ARE CONSIDERED YOUR PARKING, HOW
3:40:30PM WOULD YOU REGULATE THAT?
3:40:31PM WOULD YOU ACTUALLY RENT THE SPACES TO ENSURE THAT ONLY YOUR
3:40:35PM TENANTS CAN PARK THERE?
3:40:38PM PARKING PERMITTED THAT ONLY YOUR TENANTS WOULD HAVE?
3:40:41PM >>TYLER HUDSON: IT WOULDN'T BE EXCLUSIVE.
3:40:46PM RIGHT ADJACENT TO YOUR SITES THAT MORE LIKELY THAN NOT IT IS
3:40:52PM GOING TO USE FOR YOUR PROJECT AND WE THINK IT'S REASONABLE
3:40:54PM FOR THOSE WHO COUNT TOWARDS -- YOU ARE NOT BUILDING EVERY
3:40:58PM SINGLE PARKING SPACE THAT WOULD YOU NEED WITHIN THE BOUNDARY
3:41:01PM OF YOUR SITE, BECAUSE AS I SAY, THAT HAS SOME TRADEOFFS TO
3:41:05PM BE MINDFUL OF THAT WE ARE OVERBUILDING PARKING JUST FOR
3:41:08PM GUESTS.
3:41:09PM >> YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT DOWNTOWN PARKING.
3:41:14PM BUT IN MY MIND, IF I CAN'T FIND A PLACE OUT HERE IN FRONT OF
3:41:18PM CITY HALL, I AM GOING TO PARK TWO BLOCKS AWAY, WHICH IS WHAT
3:41:22PM YOU ARE CLASSIFYING AS YOUR PARKING SPACE SO THAT MEANS YOUR
3:41:25PM TENANTS OR PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO VISIT YOUR TENANTS CAN'T
3:41:28PM PARK THERE.
3:41:29PM >>TYLER HUDSON: THESE ARE NOT GOING TO BE -- IT'S NOT THE
3:41:33PM SAME.
3:41:33PM THERE'S NO QUESTION, IT IS NOT.
3:41:35PM WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS NOT THE SAME AS IT BEING INSIDE A
3:41:39PM STRUCTURED PARKING SPACE.
3:41:41PM IT WOULDN'T BE SECURED IN THAT EXACT SAME WAY.
3:41:43PM BUT I DO THINK THAT FOR A LOT OF PARKING, CITY REAL ESTATE,
3:41:49PM WE THINK IT'S REASONABLE THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY,
3:41:52PM HEY, WE KNOW THESE PARKING SPACES ARE THERE, THERE IS A
3:41:56PM FREQUENCY TO UTILIZE BY FOLKS WHO ARE GOING INTO THAT
3:41:59PM BUILDING AND THAT HE? THEY SHOULD NOT NOTE INFORM ALL OF
3:42:02PM YOUR PARKING BUT UP TO A QUARTER.
3:42:04PM BUT I WILL SAY, THAT'S NOT THE MOST CENTRAL AND IMPORTANT
3:42:08PM PART OF THE TEXT AMENDMENT. IF THERE'S SOME DISCOMFORT WITH
3:42:11PM THAT, WE CAN TALK AFTERWARDS.
3:42:13PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SORRY, TYLER.
3:42:17PM IT'S ABBYE FEELEY AND WANT TO JUMP ON FOR A MINUTE AND
3:42:22PM PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION I THINK OTHER WHAT'S
3:42:24PM BEING PROPOSED FOR COUNCIL'S UNDERSTANDING.
3:42:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. FEELEY, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
3:42:32PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I THINK A PROJECT WOULD GET CREDIT OR COULD
3:42:36PM COUNT CREDIT, BUT THOSE SPACES WOULD REMAIN PUBLIC SPACES,
3:42:40PM IF THOSE SPACES ARE METERED, THEY WOULD REMAIN METERED.
3:42:44PM IF THE CITY CHOSE TO METER THEM, FOR REVENUE, THAT WOULD
3:42:49PM CONTINUE.
3:42:49PM THESE WOULD NOT BE FOR THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF A DEVELOPER.
3:42:52PM THEY JUST GET TO COUNT THE FACT THAT THERE IS ON-STREET
3:42:55PM PARKING ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTY AS A WAY TO REDUCE THEIR
3:43:00PM OVERALL PARKING REQUIREMENT BY POTENTIALLY 25%.
3:43:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND THAT, MS. FEELEY, BUT THE
3:43:10PM NUMBERS JUST DON'T ADD UP TO ME.
3:43:12PM I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE IDEA IS BEHIND THE REQUEST.
3:43:15PM BUT THE NUMBERS DON'T ADD UP.
3:43:17PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO LIKE WEST RIVER RIGHT NOW, A DEVELOPER
3:43:21PM GETS CREDIT IF HE HAS PARKING. IF THERE IS ON-STREET
3:43:27PM PARKING ADJACENT TO AND WEST RIVER IS JUST ON THE WEST SIDE
3:43:32PM OF THE CBD PERIPHERY, THIS IS ONLY FOR THE PERIPHERY
3:43:35PM BOUNDARY, BUT THEY GET CREDIT IF THERE'S SITE PARKING, THEY
3:43:40PM GET CREDIT IF THERE'S MOTORCYCLE PARKING, THEY GET CREDIT IF
3:43:43PM THERE'S ON-STREET IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT.
3:43:45PM SO IN FRONT OF THE BOULEVARD AT WEST RIVER, THEY WOULD GET
3:43:48PM CREDIT.
3:43:50PM WE CAN STILL GO AND METER THOSE.
3:43:52PM THEY ARE NOT FOR THE EXCLUSIVE USE OR RIGHT OR SIGNED IN ANY
3:43:56PM WAY DEDICATE TO THAT DEVELOPMENT.
3:43:59PM BUT THEY THEMSELVES THEN ON-SITE HAVE TO PROVIDE LESS.
3:44:06PM I AM NOT SAYING --
3:44:08PM >> I UNDERSTAND --
3:44:10PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: AND I KNOW VIK DOES, TOO, BECAUSE WE HAVE
3:44:13PM METERED PARKING THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO CREATE REVENUE TO
3:44:18PM SUPPORT OUR MOBILITY AND PROGRAMS TOWARDS IT.
3:44:22PM SO I WILL BE QUIET NOW BY YOU JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT.
3:44:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND BY PARKING YOU ARE GETTING
3:44:28PM CARS OFF THE STREET.
3:44:28PM I UNDERSTAND MOTORCYCLE PARKING BECAUSE YOU ARE R YOU HAVE
3:44:30PM SMALLER SPACES.
3:44:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AGAIN, I AM NOT CREATING A BIG THING OUT
3:44:35PM OF THE THING BUT EXPLAIN WHERE THE WEST RIVER IS SO I CAN
3:44:38PM UNDERSTAND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
3:44:41PM MS. FEELEY, YOU SAID ABOUT THE WEST RIVER PROJECT OR AREA?
3:44:45PM EXPLAIN WHAT THE BOUNDARIES ARE.
3:44:47PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE PERIPHERY, AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE
3:44:51PM MAP OF THAT PERIPHERY TO BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU THOSE AREAS IN
3:44:55PM WHICH HE IS PROPOSING THAT.
3:44:56PM SO THIS IS, I OFTEN SAY, A HALO THAT GOES AROUND THE CENTRAL
3:45:01PM BUSINESS DISTRICT, THAT IS THE PERIPHERY THAT IS OUR
3:45:05PM TRANSITION ZONE FROM THE MOST -- TO THE NEXT TRANSITION AREA
3:45:12PM AND THEN INTO WHAT WE KNOW HAS OUR MORE STABLE SINGLE-FAMILY
3:45:18PM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS OUTSIDE OF OUR MAJOR CORRIDORS.
3:45:23PM SO HE'S SHOWING IT THERE ON THE MAP.
3:45:25PM HE'S SHOWING IT IN YELLOW.
3:45:27PM THIS WOULD ONLY BE FOR THAT PERIPHERY AREA.
3:45:32PM AND YOU WILL SEE IT RUNS UP NORTH BOULEVARD, AND THAT'S WHY
3:45:35PM I SAID WEST RIVER, WHICH IS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE
3:45:40PM LAND USE AND ZONING CATEGORIES, ON THE WEST SIDE, AND IT HAS
3:45:43PM SOME OF THESE SIMILAR ALLOWANCES, AND THEN I KNOW IN
3:45:48PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS WE HAVE DIFFERENT ALLOWANCES.
3:45:50PM BUT THIS IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT IN
3:45:54PM THOSE AREAS THAT IS IN THE PERIPHERY, THAT ISN'T QUITE THE
3:45:58PM CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, BUT DOES ALLOW FOR MORE INTENSIVE
3:46:02PM DEVELOPMENT.
3:46:02PM >>VIK BHIDE: CHAIR, IF I MAY.
3:46:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE THEY ALL
3:46:08PM SPEAK.
3:46:08PM I JUST WANT TO HAVE SOME CLARITY ON THE SOUTH BOUNDARY AT
3:46:12PM HARBOUR ISLAND.
3:46:14PM WHAT KIND -- HAVING BEEN OUT THERE A LONG TIME ALL THE WAY
3:46:18PM OUT TO THE SOUTHERNMOST POINT OF IT, WHAT IS THERE NOW,
3:46:22PM SINGLE-FAMILY AND APARTMENTS ATTACHED?
3:46:25PM >>TYLER HUDSON: CORRECT.
3:46:26PM THIS WOULD APPLY ONLY TO MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.
3:46:30PM THE PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT THERE AT THE VERY TIP OF HARBOUR
3:46:32PM ISLAND --
3:46:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S ALSO RESIDENTIAL, NOTHING HIGH
3:46:36PM THERE.
3:46:36PM >>TYLER HUDSON: THERE'S NOTHING HIGH.
3:46:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.
3:46:41PM SO THEY WOULD NEED THIS ALSO?
3:46:42PM >>TYLER HUDSON: I DON'T THINK THIS NEW FLEXIBILITY IS GOING
3:46:45PM TO BE UTILIZED VERY MUCH ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
3:46:48PM I THINK THAT WOULD CERTAINLY COME TO YOU BECAUSE IT WOULD
3:46:50PM LIKELY REQUIRE A REZONING TO CHANGE THAT PATTERN OF
3:46:53PM DEVELOPMENT FROM SINGLE-FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY.
3:46:55PM AND THERE'S I THINK A HEALTHY AMOUNT OF VIGILANCE ABOUT
3:46:58PM CHANGES ON HARBOUR ISLAND.
3:47:00PM I JUST THINK IT'S VERY HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
3:47:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PARKING RATIO WOULD BE ABOUT THE
3:47:04PM SAME.
3:47:06PM >>TYLER HUDSON: THERE'S A SAYING ABOUT BABIES AND BATH
3:47:12PM WATER.
3:47:13PM I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT IT'S FOOTNOTE 5 THAT WE ARE
3:47:16PM PROPOSING A RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU, AND THIS PARKING IS
3:47:21PM ON-STREET PARKING COMPONENT IS A CHANGE TO 27-283.7 FOOTNOTE
3:47:27PM 5.
3:47:27PM THAT'S THE SPECIFIC PLACE WHERE WE ARE PROPOSING THIS IN
3:47:30PM CASE THERE IS A DISCOMFORT WITH THAT ONE PORTION, BUT I
3:47:33PM THINK OVERALL, I WILL LET ALEX GO AHEAD AND DESCRIBE THE
3:47:38PM REST OF THE CHANGES WHICH I THINK ARE EVEN MORE BENIGN.
3:47:42PM WE CAN DISCUSS ABOUT OTHERS.
3:47:43PM BUT THE SPECIFIC PART ABOUT THE 25% FOR ON-STREET PARKING,
3:47:47PM THAT'S FOOTNOTE 5, THE PROPOSED ADDITION IN 27-283.7.
3:47:54PM SO WITH THAT, ALEX WILL WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE --
3:47:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND I WILL GO FOR ONE MORE,
3:48:00PM MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY. IN YBOR CITY THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN
3:48:03PM THERE FOR YEARS ASKING US TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PARKING,
3:48:07PM FIFTH AVENUE, I THINK IT WAS.
3:48:09PM AND I AM JUST THINKING GOING BACK ON MEMORY, THAT'S WHY I
3:48:12PM LOST ALL MY HAIR, SO I AM TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT'S GOING TO
3:48:14PM HAPPEN THERE IF HE ENCOUNTERER OR CITY HALL AROUND IT.
3:48:19PM AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN HOUSING, AND THEY CAN'T EVEN PARK IN
3:48:22PM FRONT OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE THE HOUSES BELONG TO THE CITY.
3:48:25PM THE STREET BELONGS TO THE CITY.
3:48:27PM SO THEY WERE COMPLAINING THAT ESPECIALLY DURING THE
3:48:30PM EXPANSION OF YBOR CITY, WHICH REALLY BLOSSOMED AND DONE
3:48:34PM REALLY WELL AND REAL HAPPY FOR THAT AND EVERYONE THAT'S
3:48:37PM INVOLVED IN IT, BUT I AM CONCERNED, AND I UNDERSTAND, NOT
3:48:41PM YOU, THE SYSTEM IS GOING TO SAY, WELL, MILLENNIALS DON'T
3:48:49PM WANT CARS, AND JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL, CHAMBERLAIN, ROBINSON,
3:48:55PM AND SHOW ME AN EMPTY PARKING SPOT.
3:48:57PM YOU AREN'T GOING TO FIND THEM.
3:48:59PM >>TYLER HUDSON: THIS AMENDMENT HERE DOESN'T REALLY APPLY TO
3:49:05PM ANY PORTION OF YBOR CITY.
3:49:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NOTICE THAT.
3:49:07PM WHAT I AM SAYING, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN
3:49:10PM SOMEWHERE ELSE, FIFTH AVENUE.
3:49:12PM I DON'T WANT TO CHOKE SOMEONE WHO IS THERE ALREADY AND
3:49:16PM LIVING, AND THEN SAY, MIRANDA, YOU DID IT, OR EVERYONE HERE.
3:49:22PM I AM NOT AFRAID OF DOING THAT IF I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE,
3:49:26PM THE WHAT IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WHAT DO WE DO THEN?
3:49:30PM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I AM THINKING ABOUT.
3:49:31PM AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
3:49:32PM I UNDERSTAND.
3:49:33PM I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
3:49:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. BHIDE, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
3:49:40PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
3:49:42PM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM,
3:49:47PM LIMITED TO PARKING IN THE 25%, UP TO 25% REQUIREMENT DOES
3:49:55PM NOT CONCERN ME AS MUCH AS THE ABILITY FOR THE CITY TO REGAIN
3:50:00PM FLEXIBILITY OVER THE RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH INCLUDES METERING
3:50:04PM CURRENT PARKING SPACES, OPERATIONS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE
3:50:09PM THINGS THAT WE DO WITH ON-STREET PARKING IS TO SEE HOW WE
3:50:12PM CAN SERVE THE MOST NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
3:50:15PM SO WE WOULD LIKE TO REGAIN SOME FLEXIBILITY, AND TO THAT
3:50:19PM END, IF WE COULD HAVE THIS DECIDED AND HAVE FURTHER
3:50:26PM DISCUSSION, WE ARE WITH THE APPLICANT, THAT WOULD BE
3:50:29PM BENEFICIAL.
3:50:30PM THE OTHER ELEMENTARY, I DO NOT HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT ...
3:50:52PM [NO ENCODER]
3:50:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HUDSON TO FINISH.
3:51:09PM THEN YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION.
3:51:11PM HOW IS THAT?
3:51:13PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:51:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOLLOWING ON WHAT VIK SAID, I REMEMBER
3:51:18PM WHEN WE CHANGED THE PARKING RATES IN DOWNTOWN, OR EXTENDED
3:51:22PM THE AREA, THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE FROM SOME OF THE CONDOS A
3:51:25PM LITTLE NORTH OF HERE THAT COMPLAINED AND SAID THEY DIDN'T
3:51:28PM HAVE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES THEN WE WERE ABLE TO SAY, WELL,
3:51:30PM THE DEVELOPER PUT TWO SPACES FOR EACH UNIT SO YOU HAVE
3:51:34PM PLENTY OF SPACES.
3:51:36PM BUT IF THE EXPECTATION WAS THAT THE STREET PARKING WOULD BE
3:51:41PM THERE, OR ESPECIALLY LIKE MR. BHIDE SED WAS SAYING IF IT WAS
3:51:45PM BLOCKED OFF ONLY FOR THOSE RESIDENTS, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD
3:51:48PM BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
3:51:49PM >>TYLER HUDSON: I THINK THE GOAL OF THIS PACKAGE THAT WE
3:51:53PM HAVE BEFORE YOU IS TO BRING BEFORE YOU SOME CHANGES THAT
3:51:55PM BEING I THINK AREN'T VERY FACT IN CIRCUMSTANCES.
3:51:59PM FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE NOT HAVING TREES.
3:52:02PM TREES ARE VERY FACT.
3:52:03PM WHEN THOSE TREE WAIVERS COME IN, THEY ARE VERY FACT
3:52:06PM DEPENDENT.
3:52:08PM I DON'T THINK THESE ARE BUT BASED ON THE CONDOS TO THE
3:52:11PM NORTH, IT SOUTH SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE THE STREET ISSUE IS A
3:52:15PM LITTLE MORE FACT SPECIFIC THAN I WOULD HAVE ANTICIPATED.
3:52:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TWO OTHER QUICK THOUGHTS.
3:52:20PM I SAW YOU HAD HARBOUR ISLAND IN THERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE
3:52:23PM NEIGHBORHOODS WERE NOTIFIED OR ANYTHING BUT IT'S WOULDN'T
3:52:25PM WANT TO VOTE ON ANYTHING WITHOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE
3:52:29PM NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A CHANCE TO COMMENT ON IT.
3:52:32PM >>TYLER HUDSON: THERE WAS A PRETTY ROBUST PUBLIC
3:52:35PM INFORMATION MEETING AND WORKSHOP AT COUNCIL SO WE ARE
3:52:37PM CONFIDENT THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS AND THE LACK OF OPPOSITION
3:52:40PM SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
3:52:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING IS JUST CONSIDERING ALL THE
3:52:45PM INPUT, INSTEAD OF TAKING THAT PARKING THING OUT, YOU MIGHT
3:52:51PM WANT TO HAVE US DISCUSS IT A TODAY AND THEN HEAR IT ANOTHER
3:52:55PM TIME, JUST SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE FULLY HEARD FROM THE
3:52:59PM PUBLIC. ANYWAY, JUST A THOUGHT.
3:53:01PM >>TYLER HUDSON: SURE.
3:53:02PM AND WE HAD A VERY ROBUST DISCUSSION AT A WORKSHOP.
3:53:05PM IT'S BASED ON THAT WORKSHOP THAT WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD
3:53:08PM TODAY.
3:53:09PM BUT LET ME LET ALEX TALK ABOUT THE OTHER FEATURES WHICH I
3:53:12PM THINK ARE MORE BENIGN.
3:53:14PM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
3:53:20PM I THINK BEYOND EVEN THE COMMONALITY OF PARKING WAIVERS THAT
3:53:24PM WE REQUEST, ALMOST EVERY PROJECT THAT WE BRING BEFORE YOU IN
3:53:27PM THE CBD PERIPHERY HAS A WAIVER FOR LOADING AND PARTICULARLY
3:53:31PM TWO DIFFERENT PORTIONS, THE FIRST BEING THE NUMBER OF BERTHS
3:53:35PM REQUIRED, THE SECOND ONE BEING THE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS
3:53:37PM THAT LOADING MUST BE ACCESSED WITH ONE CONTINUOUS MAN NEW.
3:53:41PM BREAKING THAT DOWN INTO TWO AND I WILL BE PRETTY BRIEF,
3:53:45PM PROJECTS IN THE CBD PERIPHERY SHOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO HAVE
3:53:49PM MORE WON SINGLE LOADING BERTH.
3:53:51PM WE PULLED THIS ACTUALLY FROM THE WESTSHORE MARINA DISTRICT,
3:53:56PM A SINGLE LOADING BERTH PER DEVELOPMENT.
3:53:58PM THE SECOND ONE REGARDING CONTINUOUS MANEUVERING IS BASED ON
3:54:02PM THE FACTS THAT THESE PROJECTS IN THE CBD PERIPHERY HAVE A
3:54:05PM REDUCED LAND AREA, LIKE INSIDE THE CBD.
3:54:10PM WHEN YOU ARE INSIDE THE CBD, YOU CAN REQUEST A REDUCED
3:54:15PM NUMBER OF LOADING BERTHS THROUGH THE DBR PROCESS, BUT THE
3:54:23PM CONTINUOUS MANEUVERING, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT BECAUSE LIKE
3:54:26PM I SAID THESE PROJECTS ARE COMPACT AND IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE
3:54:32PM TO ACCESS WITH ONE CONTINUOUS MANEUVER.
3:54:36PM PULL INTO THE BUILDING AND LOAD THROUGH THERE BUT OTHER THAN
3:54:39PM THAT IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO ACCOMMODATE THESE PROJECTS.
3:54:43PM THE NEXT ONE IN REGARDS TO GREEN SPACE, THIS ISN'T
3:54:45PM NECESSARILY A NEW IDEA.
3:54:46PM THE WAY THE CODE READS CURRENTLY IS THAT BUILDINGS THAT ARE
3:54:49PM OVER SIX STORIES ARE ABLE TO USE A PERCENTAGE CALCULATION
3:54:53PM FOR GREEN SPACE, SO YOU TAKE A PARCEL AREA IN YOUR BUILDING
3:54:56PM FOOTPRINT AND PROVIDE 30% OF WHAT'S LEFT OVER OF THE LAND.
3:55:00PM PROJECTS THAT ARE LESS THAN SIX STORIES, SMALLER
3:55:02PM MULTI-FAMILY, ARE STILL HELD TO THAT PER-UNIT SQUARE FOOTAGE
3:55:07PM CALCULATION, AND RECENTLY, A MONTH OR TWO AGO BEFORE YOU
3:55:10PM ALL, THAT WAS LIKE A VERY SIGNIFICANT GREEN SPACE WAIVER.
3:55:10PM IT WAS A VERY SMALL IN-FILL MULTI DEAL, I THINK 13 UNITS AND
3:55:16PM THERE WAS ALMOST A 92% WAIVER, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE LAND
3:55:22PM AREA.
3:55:23PM IT'S MAINLY TO HELP PROJECTS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE IN-FILL
3:55:25PM REDEVELOPMENT, SMALLER THAN GAS WORX, AND 300 TO 500 NUMBER
3:55:29PM OF UNITS BUT THESE SMALLER PROJECTS THAT HAVE DIFFICULTY
3:55:32PM EXISTING IN AN URBANIZED DEVELOPMENT BY PROVIDING THE AMOUNT
3:55:36PM OF GREEN SPACE THAT'S REQUIRED FOR SOMETHING THAT'S A LOT
3:55:39PM MORE SUBURBAN.
3:55:40PM THE LAST ONE IS MORE OF A CLARIFICATION THAN IT IS ANY KIND
3:55:42PM OF CHANGE.
3:55:43PM SO THE WAY THAT THE LANDSCAPE IS NOW, THERE'S THIS REFERENCE
3:55:47PM TO AN ADJACENT USE.
3:55:48PM WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THIS ADJACENT USE BE INTERPRETED AS
3:55:52PM THE THEN EXISTING ADJACENT USE AND NOT ANY ADJACENT USE THAT
3:55:56PM WOULD BE PERMITTED UNDER THE ZONING CATEGORY.
3:55:57PM THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY,
3:56:00PM SETTING OUR BUFFERS, AND PROPOSING A NEW DEVELOPMENT, OR
3:56:03PM DEVELOPING A BUFFER TO THE MOST INTENSE USE THAT COULD
3:56:06PM POTENTIALLY POSSIBLY MAYBE BE THERE AT SOME POINT IN THE
3:56:10PM FUTURE.
3:56:10PM WE ARE CREATING THESE VERY LARGE BUFFERS, AND LIKE I SAID,
3:56:13PM IN THE AREA THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE URBAN WHICH IS IN DIRECT
3:56:15PM CONFLICT WITH A LOT OF THOSE URBAN DESIGN PRINCIPALS, NOT
3:56:19PM ISOLATED PROJECTS AND HAVING CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN DIFFERENT
3:56:22PM PARCELS.
3:56:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:56:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COULD YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES,
3:56:35PM PLEASE?
3:56:36PM THERE.
3:56:36PM GREEN SPACE.
3:56:39PM THE MEETINGS RUN TOGETHER, BUT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A PREVIOUS
3:56:44PM MEETING.
3:56:45PM BUT SOMETHING THAT I AM INTERESTED IN HERE, BECAUSE WE ARE
3:56:47PM HAVING A LOT OF THIS.
3:56:48PM SO WE HAVE MOVED FROM BEING A MORE SUBURBAN CITY TO REALLY
3:56:55PM URBAN, AND WHEN YOU THINK OF AN URBAN CITY, YOU THINK OF
3:57:00PM BUILDING NEXT TO BUILDING NEXT TO BUILDING WITH NOT A LOT OF
3:57:04PM GREEN SPACE.
3:57:04PM SO ONE THING I ASKED ABOUT, AND I AM REALLY INTERESTED IN
3:57:08PM THE IDEA, FOR THE SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS, OBVIOUSLY NOT LARGER
3:57:13PM ONES BUT SOME OF THESE SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS, INSTEAD OF
3:57:18PM REQUIRING GREEN SPACE BASED ON A PERCENTAGE, POSSIBLY PAYING
3:57:27PM INTO A GREEN SPACE FUND, OR FINDING SOME SMALLER PARCEL THAT
3:57:32PM COULD BE CLOSE BY, THAT COULD BE CREATED POCKET PARKS,
3:57:38PM BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS GREEN SPACE.
3:57:41PM AND IF YOU HAVE A STRIP OF LAWN IN FRONT OF A SIX-STORY
3:57:44PM BUILDING, THAT'S NOT REALLY USABLE GREEN SPACE.
3:57:49PM SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME UP, LIKE I SAID I CAN'T
3:57:52PM REMEMBER IF IT WAS IN A PRE-MEETING OR ONE OF OUR OTHER
3:57:56PM COUNCIL MEETINGS, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO LOOK AT, BECAUSE I
3:57:58PM THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO WHEN LOOKING AT
3:58:04PM THIS CALCULATION.
3:58:05PM I THINK THE CALCULATION JUST NEEDS TO BE REIMAGINED OVERALL,
3:58:11PM BECAUSE I THINK -- WHEN I THINK ABOUT URBAN AREAS, AND OF
3:58:15PM COURSE I AM GOING TO GIANT URBAN AREAS LIKE NEW YORK CITY,
3:58:19PM THERE ARE COUNTLESS, COUNTLESS POCKET PARKS.
3:58:22PM MORE PEOPLE CAN JUST SIT UNDER A TREE.
3:58:25PM THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF SPACE, AND SO I THINK THIS IS USABLE
3:58:31PM SPACE AS OPPOSED TO JUST A SMALL STRIP OF GRASS THAT COUNTS
3:58:35PM AS GREEN THAT'S NOT REALLY USEFUL, IT'S THERE JUST THERE FOR
3:58:40PM ORNAMENTATION.
3:58:42PM SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS BUT WHAT I AM MORE
3:58:45PM INTERESTED TO DO MAKE LANDSCAPE AREAS ACTUAL USABLE GREEN
3:58:50PM SPACE FOR FOLKS IN THE CBD AND CBD PERIPHERY.
3:58:54PM >> I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING.
3:58:58PM SO THEY DO PAY AN IN-LIEU FEE, SO THEY PAY THAT.
3:59:03PM I CAPTAIN TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW THAT'S USED OR WHEREBY THAT
3:59:07PM GOES BUT IT'S IN CODE ALREADY SO THEY ARE PAYING FOR ANY
3:59:09PM REDUCTION THEY ARE REQUESTING IN THE FORM OF A WAIVER.
3:59:12PM I AGREE, I THINK THE DISTRICT DOES A RILE GOOD JOB OF
3:59:17PM CREATING THOSE POCKET PARKS.
3:59:19PM WE HAD MULTIPLE DISCUSSION WAS THEM ABOUT THAT AND I THINK
3:59:21PM THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE IN OTHER AREAS BECAUSE WHEN WE
3:59:23PM ARE DOING THE IN-FILL, IN PLACES LIKE HOWARD AVENUE,
3:59:29PM PALMETTO BEACH IS GOING TO BE A GREEN SPACE WAIVER BUT IT'S
3:59:32PM PLACE LIKE THAT, THAT COULD USE MORE OF AN ORGANIZED
3:59:36PM CREATION OF THOSE LARGER AREAS, AND I THINK A LOT OF THE
3:59:39PM PROJECTS ARE TRYING TO DO THAT AND PROVIDING LIKE DOG PARKS
3:59:42PM AND STUFF WHERE THERE'S USABLE GREEN SPACE AREA.
3:59:45PM SO I AGREE.
3:59:46PM AND THE CBD ITSELF DOESN'T SPECIFY GREEN SPACE.
3:59:53PM THAT'S JUST MERELY OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT. IT WOULD BE A
3:59:53PM GOOD IDEA TO POTENTIALLY ADOPT IN OTHER PLACES BECAUSE AGAIN
3:59:56PM IT'S USABLE AREA SO PEOPLE CAN GATHER.
3:59:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXACTLY.
4:00:01PM AND FOR THESE LARGER THAN SIX STORY BUILDINGS, YOUR LARGER
4:00:02PM PROJECTS, YES, YOU HAVE THE DOG PARKS.
4:00:04PM YOU HAVE THESE AMENITIES USUALLY A POOL OR SOMETHING LIKE
4:00:08PM THAT.
4:00:08PM BUT TO THESE SMALLER BUILDINGS, THE STRIP OF GRASS THING,
4:00:15PM WITH A PALM TREE, WHICH IS THE WORST, OR POSSIBLY CRAPE
4:00:19PM MYRTLE, JUST DON'T PROVIDE THE SHADE AND THE ENCOURAGEMENT
4:00:24PM TO ACTUALLY ENJOY THE SPACE.
4:00:26PM SO, YES.
4:00:28PM I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
4:00:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
4:00:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT TALK YOUR PROJECT, JUST IN GENERAL.
4:00:37PM YOU TALK ABOUT LOADING BERTH REDUCED TO ONE.
4:00:43PM I AM GOING TO USE AS EXAMPLE THAT -- EXAMPLE THAT WE HAVE
4:00:45PM THAT MAY NOT IN YOU'RE AREA.
4:00:47PM BUT WHEN YOU COME DOWN ASHLEY AND YOU MAKE A LEFT ON
4:00:50PM JACKSON, OR YOU TRY TO MAKE A LEFT ON JACKSON, GUESS WHAT
4:00:53PM YOU FIND.
4:00:54PM YOU FIND 25, 30-FOOT, WHERE YOU DON'T PAY ANYTHING TO ROLL
4:01:00PM ON IN, AND THE TRUCK IS PICKING IT UP, THE VEHICLES TAKING
4:01:04PM NOT ONLY THE SIDEWALK, BUT THE INSIDE LANE OF A DRIVING LANE
4:01:08PM AND I SEE PEOPLE, IT HAPPENS TO ME VARIOUS TIMES WRITE GOT
4:01:13PM CARS COMING NORTH ON ASHLEY, I AM TRYING TO MAKE A LEFT,
4:01:16PM THEY ARE TRYING TO MAKE A RIGHT, AND WE HAVE THE CITY IS SO
4:01:20PM SMART THEY PUT AN ISLAND SO YOU DON'T RUN OVER, THE TRUCK, I
4:01:23PM GUESS, AND PEOPLE ARE SPINNING AROUND.
4:01:30PM SO YOU SEE THE TRUCK BLOCKING THE STREET AT TRAFFIC TIME.
4:01:34PM THEY DON'T DO IT AT NIGHT.
4:01:35PM THEY DON'T DO IT AT 1:00 IN THE MORNING OR 2:00 IN THE
4:01:37PM MORNING.
4:01:38PM THEY DO IT AT 7:30 TO 9:30 TO 10:00 IN THE MORNING WHEN THE
4:01:42PM TRAFFIC, I WANT TO GET.
4:01:44PM >> FROM LOUISIANA TO B AND PEOPLE GET EXASPERATED, WHAT'S
4:01:49PM WRONG WITH TAMPA?
4:01:50PM AND THESE ARE THE THINGS IN THE ONE LOCATION, LOCATION,
4:01:53PM LOCATION.
4:01:53PM AND THAT'S A FINE LOCATION BUT IT'S THE WRONG PLACE.
4:01:57PM AND I AM NOT BLAMING THE BUILDING DEVELOPER OR ANYTHING
4:01:59PM ELSE.
4:02:00PM IT'S THERE.
4:02:00PM I CAN'T CHANGE IT.
4:02:01PM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING WHERE I CAN AT LEAST SAY,
4:02:05PM YOU KNOW, THEY ARE RIGHT, THEY DID IT, WITH THE RIGHT
4:02:08PM INTENTION, YOU DON'T NEED A 60 FOOTER, THEY NEED 30, OR THEY
4:02:12PM NEED ONE 60 AND NOT THREE 30s.
4:02:15PM AND I BELIEVE THE DENSITY BONUS, WE ARE KILLING OURSELVES IN
4:02:21PM THIS WHOLE WORLD.
4:02:22PM HOW ABOUT A DENSITY BONUS THAT IF YOU PUT SOLAR YOU GET
4:02:26PM ANOTHER IN THE DENSITY.
4:02:27PM I AM THROWING THESE THINGS TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO
4:02:31PM LEAD SOMETHING, TO CHANGE SOMETHING, TO MAKE LIFE BETTER.
4:02:35PM INSTEAD OF US DOING IT.
4:02:36PM YOU HAVE THE SAME WELL-BEING THAT WE DO. YOU HAVE A LITTLE
4:02:40PM BIT MORE ITEMIZING OF IT BECAUSE YOU DO IT ON A DAILY BASIS.
4:02:46PM AND WE TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
4:02:48PM SO WE ARE TRYING TO HELP YOU.
4:02:50PM THAT'S SOMETHING A STEP BEYOND, WHAT IF YOU HAD THE
4:02:53PM OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SOMETHING AND BE ENVIRONMENT FRIENDLY.
4:02:57PM WHAT IF.
4:02:58PM AND I CALL MYSELF A NUT AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY REAL QUICKLY.
4:03:02PM I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE YOUR TIME.
4:03:04PM WHY DO TORNADOES AND HURRICANES TAKE THE ROOFS OF HOUSINGS
4:03:09PM OFF?
4:03:10PM VERY SIMPLE.
4:03:10PM LOOK AT THE HOUSE.
4:03:12PM YOU HAVE GOT ABOUT THAT AND THE ROOF FALLS OFF.
4:03:23PM THEN THE WINDOWS.
4:03:25PM THEN THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
4:03:26PM SO WHAT IF THE ROOF DID NOT HAVE AN EVE?
4:03:32PM WHAT WOULD THE WIND PICK UP?
4:03:34PM THEN I TELL MYSELF, WHAT IF THE HOUSE WAS A LITTLE ON THE
4:03:36PM ROUND SIDE ALONG THE EDGES AND THAT'S WHERE THE ROOF -- THE
4:03:42PM ROOF EDGE GOES AROUND.
4:03:43PM IT'S LIKE A TOP WHEN IT SPINS.
4:03:47PM IT'S MOVING.
4:03:48PM THEN I TELL MYSELF, WHY IS IT ALL THE PLUMBING IS IN THE
4:03:52PM CENTER OF THE HOUSE UNDER 6 INCHES OF CONCRETE?
4:03:58PM HAVE YOU HAD ANYTHING HAPPEN TO -- UNDER THE CONCRETE?
4:04:02PM MOST OF US HAVE.
4:04:03PM WHY IS IT NOT ON THE AREA WHERE YOU CAN OPEN THAT PLASTIC
4:04:08PM THING AND IN JUST FIVE MINUTES, YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF.
4:04:12PM THESE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK ABOUT IN MY SPARE TIME.
4:04:15PM SO I THINK OF ALL THESE THINGS AND I'M ASKING YOU TO HELP
4:04:17PM US.
4:04:20PM BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
4:04:22PM I YIELD THE FLOOR.
4:04:28PM I'M 28 YEARS OLD GOING BACKWARDS.
4:04:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
4:04:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS I SEWED EARLIER, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE
4:04:45PM MOVE THIS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS SO WE CAN THINK ABOUT IT AND
4:04:48PM FIGURE OUT WHAT ELSE IS BEING SAID IN THE COMMUNITY.
4:04:51PM THERE ARE SOME CONCEPTS IN HERE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUPPORT
4:04:54PM BUT IF IT GOES FORWARD TODAY I WOULD HAVE TO UNFORTUNATELY
4:04:57PM SAY NO.
4:04:57PM THANK YOU.
4:04:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I LIKE THE PROJECT.
4:05:01PM BUT LIKE MR. CARLSON, THE WHAT-IFS ARE GETTING IN MY WAY.
4:05:08PM RIGHT NOW I CAN'T SAY THAT I DO BECAUSE THE AREA IS BROAD
4:05:11PM BUT IT'S NOT SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE AREA, WHERE IS IT GOING
4:05:15PM TO BE AT?
4:05:17PM AT LEAST ONE ITEM, ONE BUILDING IS GOING TO BE FOR THE
4:05:22PM GENERAL PUBLIC.
4:05:23PM THAT'S WHAT I AM LOOKING AT.
4:05:24PM I AM NOT AGAINST THE PROJECT.
4:05:25PM I LIKE YOUR PROJECT.
4:05:26PM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN WHERE WE CAN
4:05:29PM JUSTIFY THE NEED FOR IT.
4:05:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:05:34PM 69 JUST BRIEFLY VERY BRIEFLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE CONSENT
4:05:37PM AGENDA.
4:05:38PM JUST-OR OH, WE DID.
4:05:41PM IT'S ALL MESHED TOGETHER.
4:05:42PM FORGET IT.
4:05:45PM BUT THIS IS FIRST READING.
4:05:47PM IT WILL COME BACK TO US SECOND READING, NUMBER ONE.
4:05:51PM SO IT WILL BE COMING BACK TO US.
4:05:53PM IF A WORKSHOP WAS HELD AND PEOPLE COULD SEE THE AGENDA,
4:05:57PM ET CETERA, I THINK I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S
4:06:02PM CONCERNS AND I RESPECT THEM 110%, ALSO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
4:06:05PM BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING GOOD, TO MOVE IT FORWARD, AND
4:06:09PM THERE IS PART 2, AND WE CAN ADDRESSING IT IN PART 2, IN MY
4:06:12PM OPINION.
4:06:13PM THANK YOU.
4:06:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANOTHER THING, COUNCIL, IF I MAY.
4:06:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
4:06:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
4:06:19PM A REMAINDER, THIS IS ALSO LEGISLATIVE.
4:06:26PM THERE IS NO RISK TO TAKING ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND
4:06:29PM CHAINING YOUR VOTES OR DECISIONS OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO
4:06:32PM A IT SECOND READING.
4:06:33PM OF COURSE IF YOU DO CHANGE, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO
4:06:36PM FIRST READING AND CHANGE THE PROCESS DOWN.
4:06:39PM BUT BECAUSE OF PUBLICATION DEADLINES, IT'S NOT COMING BACK
4:06:42PM IN TWO WEEKS, IT'S COMING BACK IN A MONTH.
4:06:44PM IS THAT CORRECT?
4:06:45PM OKAY.
4:06:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:06:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO THERE'S NO TIME FRAME, MR. SHELBY?
4:06:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TIME FRAME IN WHAT SENSE, SIR?
4:06:56PM WELL, MAYBE IT IS.
4:07:04PM IN A TEXT AMENDMENT.
4:07:06PM AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INTENTION IS.
4:07:07PM BUT THE THING IS --
4:07:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF WE GET --
4:07:12PM >>TYLER HUDSON: NO, THIS IS A FRUSTRATION THAT I HAVE, THE
4:07:16PM SAME WAIVERS ALL THE TIME.
4:07:19PM THIS IS THE FRUIT OF A VERY THOROUGH PUBLIC OUTREACH PROCESS
4:07:22PM THAT WAS DICTATED BY THE CITY, WHICH WAS DUE TO PUBLIC
4:07:26PM INFORMATION MEETING, WE DID THAT, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, WE
4:07:30PM DID THAT, AND ALEX ENJOYED A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION.
4:07:36PM THERE'S ALWAYS TWEAKS THAT WE CAN BE MAKING TO THE CODE.
4:07:40PM THIS IS A BABY STEP.
4:07:41PM IT'S COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS.
4:07:43PM IT'S GOING TO HELP THINGS AND I CAN TALK TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY
4:07:45PM ABOUT THESE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER.
4:07:48PM I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
4:07:49PM BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY A GOOD IDEA TO JUST KEEP
4:07:55PM EXPANDING WHAT THE SCOPE OF THIS COULD BE.
4:07:58PM THESE ARE I THINK LASER FOCUSED, EXCEPT FOR THE ONSTREET
4:08:01PM PARKING THING.
4:08:02PM CROSS THAT OUT.
4:08:03PM THERE'S CLEARLY NOT VERY POPULAR.
4:08:04PM BUT I THINK THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC SET OF CHANGES.
4:08:08PM SO I AM NOT LOWE THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS THIS WHOLE
4:08:12PM PRESENTATION AND THEN DO A PRESENTATION AND DRIVE YOU GUYS
4:08:16PM NUTS.
4:08:17PM BUT THIS HAS BEEN VETTED.
4:08:19PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR 15 MONTHS.
4:08:22PM SO IF TWO WEEKS IS GOING TO GET US TO THE LEVEL OF SCRUTINY
4:08:27PM THAT'S DESIRED, I AM HAPPY TO COME BACK BUT THIS IS NOT FOR
4:08:31PM A PROJECT, THIS IS JUST I THINK FOR GOOD IDEAS.
4:08:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. DOCK IS HERE.
4:08:37PM LET'S SEE IF SHE'S ON BOARD WITH THIS.
4:08:39PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:08:41PM YES, I DO AGREE THAT TWO WEEKS IS SUFFICIENT.
4:08:46PM I JUST WANTED TO RECAP THE WORKSHOP THAT IT SOUND LIKE THIS
4:08:50PM IS WHAT TYLER HAS DONE WITH THE PROCESS.
4:08:55PM WE DID HOLD A PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING IN OCTOBER, ON
4:08:58PM OCTOBER 18th.
4:08:58PM WE HELD A CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP IN NOVEMBER, ON NOVEMBER
4:09:02PM 17th.
4:09:02PM AND IN THE CHAMBER ON THE 23rd AND BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR
4:09:08PM THE FIRST READING.
4:09:09PM SO IF IT'S COUNCIL'S DESIRE TO COME IN AT LEAST A TWO-WEEK
4:09:13PM TIME FRAME.
4:09:14PM RIGHT NOW THE WAY IT WAS SCHEDULED AS OF TODAY, THE SECOND
4:09:16PM READING WOULD HAVE BEEN MARCH 3rd.
4:09:18PM SO THAT PUSHES THE SCHEDULE BACK BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY COME
4:09:21PM BACK WITHIN THE TWO MEETINGS IN AT LEAST A TWO-WEEK TIME
4:09:27PM FRAME.
4:09:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT?
4:09:31PM COUNCIL MAKES SURE YOU UNDERSTAND AND OUR CONSTITUENTS ARE
4:09:34PM ON BOARD.
4:09:34PM >>TYLER HUDSON: THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS PUT YOU IN A
4:09:39PM POSITION OF PUTTING YOU IN A SITUATION YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN TO
4:09:43PM YOUR CONSTITUENTS SO MAKE SURE WE GET FROM 80 PERCENT
4:09:46PM UNDERSTANDING TO 100%.
4:09:47PM SO TWO WEEKS, WE WILL BE HAPPY.
4:09:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN I HEAR FROM LEGAL, PLEASE?
4:09:54PM DOES LEGAL WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
4:09:56PM I SAW YOU APPROACH THE PODIUM.
4:09:57PM >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: YES.
4:10:01PM I WAS GOING TO MENTION IF WE WERE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH
4:10:04PM SOME ISSUES WITH THE TITLE, BUT IF YOU ARE CONTINUING THE
4:10:06PM ITEM, AND NOT APPROVING ON FIRST READING TODAY, THEN WE ARE
4:10:11PM GOOD.
4:10:16PM SO WE JUST HAD IN THE TITLE THAT WE WERE AMEND WILLING
4:10:19PM SECTION 27-283.7 NUMBER OF OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES AND THE
4:10:25PM ACCOMMODATIONS SUGGESTED BY THE PETITIONER WAS TO DELETE NOT
4:10:31PM ENTIRELY BUT WE REALLY CAN'T DELETE IN ITS ENTIRETY BECAUSE
4:10:35PM THAT WOULD CHANGE THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE.
4:10:37PM SO WE WERE GOING TO SUGGEST THAT IF THIS WAS GOING TO MOVE
4:10:40PM FORWARD THAT THE TITLE BE-FOOTNOTE 5, WE WOULD JUST DELETE
4:10:45PM THE LANGUAGE REGARDING THE 25% OF REQUIRED SPACES AND GO
4:10:48PM AHEAD AND LEAVE THE LANGUAGE REGARDING BICYCLE RACKS AND
4:10:52PM ALSO OFFSETTING OFF-STREET PARKING BY MOTORCYCLE PARKING.
4:10:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
4:11:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE OF THE SCHEDULE IF WE
4:11:04PM CAN'T DO TWO WEEKS BECAUSE THAT'S CRA, AND MAYBE THE
4:11:08PM 16th?
4:11:11PM I'M SORRY, I MISSED A PAGE.
4:11:13PM I COULD MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE FIRST READING TO FEBRUARY
4:11:16PM 16th?
4:11:17PM >> SECOND.
4:11:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HUDSON, FOR THE RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO
4:11:21PM HEAR FROM YOU ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE.
4:11:24PM >>TYLER HUDSON: I WILL ASK THAT THIS MOTION BE MOVED TO
4:11:27PM FEBRUARY 16th.
4:11:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY -- COUNCILWOMAN
4:11:32PM HURTAK.
4:11:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY ONLY AMENDMENT WOULD BE AT A SPECIFIC
4:11:36PM TIME BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE ALREADY HAD THIS DISCUSSION, AND
4:11:41PM THEY HAVE HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS.
4:11:42PM >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
4:11:44PM AS THE FIRST ITEM.
4:11:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
4:11:49PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:11:51PM AMENDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:11:53PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
4:11:55PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
4:11:56PM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THE MOTION PASSED.
4:11:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 16th.
4:12:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, TYLER.
4:12:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE FIRST ITEM AFTER --
4:12:08PM >> PUBLIC COMMENT.
4:12:13PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:12:15PM YOU HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY.
4:12:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM 20 AND 21.
4:12:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:12:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:12:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:12:24PM THANK YOU.
4:12:24PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:12:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: 22.
4:12:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:12:33PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:12:34PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:12:35PM MOTION PASSES.
4:12:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 27 THROUGH 46.
4:12:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:12:47PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:12:48PM ANY OBJECTION?
4:12:50PM MOTION PASSES.
4:12:51PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:12:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: (OFF MICROPHONE) 47 THROUGH 57.
4:12:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
4:13:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:13:02PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:13:04PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:13:05PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:13:06PM MOTION PASSES.
4:13:10PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAVE BUILDING AND ZONING, ITEMS 72
4:13:16PM THROUGH 79 SANS 78.
4:13:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: (OFF MICROPHONE) 72 THROUGH 77 --
4:13:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:13:27PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:13:28PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
4:13:30PM MOTION PASSES.
4:13:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 80 THROUGH
4:13:34PM 84 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 82.
4:13:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:13:38PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:13:40PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:13:41PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
4:13:43PM MOTION PASSES.
4:13:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO SET 85 SU-1-23-01-C FOR
4:13:49PM PUBLIC HEARING MARCH 16, 2023 AT 1:30 P.M.
4:13:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:13:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:13:57PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
4:13:58PM MOTION PASSES.
4:13:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC
4:14:01PM HEARINGS 86 TO 93.
4:14:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:14:08PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:14:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ACTUALLY ALL THE WAY THROUGH 96.
4:14:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
4:14:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION PASSES.
4:14:17PM ANYONE GIVING ANY TYPE OF EVIDENCE OR MAKING ANY STATEMENTS
4:14:20PM FOR THE REST OF THE CASES THAT WE SEE BEFORE US TODAY, WOULD
4:14:22PM YOU PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN?
4:14:25PM >>THE CLERK: RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
4:14:31PM (OATH ADMINISTERED BY CLERK)
4:14:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:14:38PM PLEASE BE SEATED.
4:14:39PM OUR FIRST CASE IS GOING TO BE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 86.
4:14:42PM FILE VAC 22-28.
4:14:45PM >>ROSS SAMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PRESENTING FILE VAC
4:14:52PM 22-28.
4:14:54PM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
4:14:55PM THIS ORDINANCE IS PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE AN
4:15:00PM ALLEYWAY NORTH OF PENINSULAR STREET, SOUTH OF WOODLAWN
4:15:08PM AVENUE, EAST OF POPULAR AVENUE AND WEST OF MYRTLE AVENUE
4:15:12PM WITHIN THE PLAT OF BUFFALO HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION.
4:15:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
4:15:18PM PETITIONER.
4:15:19PM >> THE PETITIONER DID REACH OUT TO ME.
4:15:22PM HE WAS UNAVAILABLE TO BE ATTENDING THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY,
4:15:27PM AND I TOLD HIM I WOULD RELAY THE MESSAGE.
4:15:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
4:15:32PM THANK YOU.
4:15:32PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
4:15:35PM COMMENTS TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 86 FILE VAC 22-28?
4:15:42PM SEEING NONE, I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE NO ONE ONLINE.
4:15:46PM MOVE TO CLOSE.
4:15:47PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:15:49PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:15:50PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:15:52PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:15:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 86, FILE VAC 22-28.
4:15:59PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
4:16:02PM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VACATING,
4:16:04PM CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED
4:16:08PM NORTH OF PENINSULA STREET, SOUTH OF WOODLAWN AVENUE, EAST OF
4:16:12PM POPULAR AVENUE, WEST OF MYRTLE AVENUE, WITHIN THE PLAT OF
4:16:15PM BUFFALO HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
4:16:17PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA AS MORE CAN FULLY DESCRIBED IN
4:16:21PM SECTION 2 HEREOF AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN
4:16:24PM PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS
4:16:27PM PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEAL
4:16:30PM CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
4:16:32PM DATE.
4:16:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED
4:16:37PM BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:16:38PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
4:16:40PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND HURTAK VOTING
4:16:53PM NO.
4:16:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 87.
4:16:55PM FILE VAC 22-30.
4:16:57PM >>ROSS SAMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, FILE VAC 22-30,
4:17:04PM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
4:17:06PM THIS ORDINANCE IS PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST LOCATED NORTH OF
4:17:10PM BAY STREET, SOUTH OF GENESEE STREET, EAST OF 17th STREET
4:17:14PM AND WEST OF 19th STREET IN THE PLAT OF BONITA
4:17:17PM SUBDIVISION.
4:17:18PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
4:17:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
4:17:23PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
4:17:25PM >> THANK YOU AGAIN FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
4:17:32PM THANK YOU.
4:17:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:17:33PM DOES THAT CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION?
4:17:36PM >> YES.
4:17:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:17:38PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO
4:17:41PM MAKE COMMENT ON THIS?
4:17:45PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:17:47PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:17:48PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:17:49PM THANK YOU.
4:17:50PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:17:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: VAC 22-30, AN ORDINANCE OF THE
4:17:55PM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA VAPOR INDICATING DISCONTINUING AND
4:17:59PM ABANDONING THAT ALLEY LOCATED NORTH OF NORTH BAY STREET,
4:18:03PM SOUTH OF GENESEE STREET, EAST OF 17th STREET AND WEST OF
4:18:06PM 19th STREET WITHIN THE PLAT OF BONITA SUBDIVISION, IN
4:18:09PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY
4:18:12PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
4:18:15PM CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
4:18:18PM HEREIN PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
4:18:20PM VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND
4:18:23PM REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING
4:18:25PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:18:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:18:29PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
4:18:31PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
4:18:32PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4:18:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 88.
4:18:41PM FILE REZ 22-110.
4:18:47PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:18:52PM COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
4:18:56PM THIS IS FOR A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
4:19:00PM 407 AND 409 SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE.
4:19:04PM THE PROPERTY OWNER IS BEING REPRESENTED BY TYLER HUDSON.
4:19:09PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM RS 16 TO PD AND THIS
4:19:12PM IS FOR THE USES OF SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, SINGLE-FAMILY
4:19:16PM SEMI-DETACHED.
4:19:17PM AND SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED BEFORE SECOND
4:19:22PM READING AND THOSE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND HAVE BEEN
4:19:25PM PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
4:19:26PM I'LL AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
4:19:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
4:19:31PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
4:19:32PM >>TYLER HUDSON: 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
4:19:37PM OUT OF RESPECT TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE HERE AND YOUR TIME I
4:19:39PM AM JUST GOING TO SPEAK ON REBUTTAL.
4:19:41PM THANK YOU.
4:19:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:19:43PM IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA NUMBER
4:19:47PM 88, REZ 22-110?
4:19:58PM >> LISA BRIMBALM, AND I LIVE AT 405 SOUTH ALBANY.
4:20:02PM I WOULD LIKE TO YIELD MY TIME TO DONALD MORRILL, MY HUSBAND.
4:20:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DID YOU SIGN --
4:20:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
4:20:13PM >> I DID NOT.
4:20:16PM >> IF COUNCIL WANTS TO SAVE TIME.
4:20:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE EXTRA MINUTE.
4:20:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
4:20:23PM >> DONALD MORRILL, 405 SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE.
4:20:28PM WE HAVE WRITTEN MULTIPLE LETTERS AND OF COURSE ANOTHER LONG
4:20:31PM LETTER ABOUT THIS MOST RECENT VERSION OF THIS PLAN.
4:20:36PM YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE OPPOSING IT.
4:20:39PM NOW WHY WE ARE OPPOSING IT.
4:20:40PM IT'S TOO BIG.
4:20:41PM DOESN'T FIT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
4:20:43PM AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY ENUMERATED.
4:20:46PM IN MY LETTER A WEEK AGO I DID ALSO INCLUDE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT
4:20:49PM SHOW HOW DIRECTLY IT IMPACTS MY HOUSE, OUR HOUSE, OUR
4:20:55PM PROPERTY, AND I KNOW THAT MY NEIGHBOR IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT
4:20:58PM THAT AS WELL.
4:20:59PM BUT THERE ARE A FEW OTHER THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION
4:21:01PM HERE ABOUT THIS PROCESS, AND THAT IS WE DOWNLOADED THE FINAL
4:21:05PM ZONING STAFF REPORT ON JANUARY 6th, AND IT WAS A REPORT
4:21:12PM THAT SAID THIS PROJECT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA
4:21:18PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
4:21:18PM WE CAME TO THE MEETING AND DISCOVERED SOMEHOW IT WAS MADE
4:21:23PM CONSISTENT AND IN ANOTHER FINAL REPORT HAD BEEN FILED IN THE
4:21:27PM INTERVENING FOUR DAYS EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE NO SIGNIFICANT
4:21:29PM CHANGES IN THIS PLAN.
4:21:31PM AND BUT THERE WAS MORE COPIES IN THE SECOND FINAL REPORT.
4:21:37PM THE FIRST FINAL REPORT DISAPPEARED.
4:21:39PM I SENT BOTH OF THOSE TO YOU.
4:21:41PM BUT IT SAID OVERALL THE PROPOSED PD IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
4:21:44PM POLICY DIRECTION OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
4:21:48PM WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
4:21:49PM IT'S EITHER CONSISTENT OR IT'S NOT.
4:21:51PM I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE A SUSPECT IN COURT TESTIMONY
4:21:57PM THAT INCLINES TOWARD THE TRUTH.
4:22:00PM ALSO, JUST LAST FALL, ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS VERY
4:22:05PM PROJECT AT 404 SOUTH ALBANY, WE HAD A DEVELOPER WHOSE PLAN
4:22:11PM WE SUPPORTED, ADHERED TO THE 20-FOOT SET BANKS FROM THE
4:22:15PM SIDEWALK.
4:22:16PM AS A MATTER OF FACT, HE EVEN HAD TO REDUCE SAILABLE SPACE IN
4:22:20PM HIS DEVELOPMENT IN ORDER TO MEET THOSE.
4:22:22PM THOSE WERE YOUR RULES.
4:22:26PM IN OUR MEETING ON THE 12th, WE ALSO HEARD FROM
4:22:32PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND HURTAK THAT THIS DESIGN DOES NOT
4:22:36PM COMPLY WITH THE LAND USE POLICY 9.3.8.
4:22:41PM IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF US.
4:22:43PM SO THIS IS GOING TO COMPLETELY BLOCK THE SUN.
4:22:47PM IT'S NOT A NEIGHBOR.
4:22:49PM IT'S AN ASSAULT ON OUR SPACE.
4:22:51PM THEY ARE JUST A FEW FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
4:22:59PM AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE.
4:23:00PM THE REALITY HERE IS THAT THERE ARE REALLY THREE SETS OF
4:23:05PM INTEREST, AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY CLARIFIED ALL THE INTERESTS.
4:23:11PM YES, THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO HAVE INCENTIVES AND REWARDS.
4:23:14PM BUT THE FACT THAT THIS JUST TOTALLY MAXIMIZING GAIN ISN'T
4:23:18PM THE PREVAILING INTEREST HERE.
4:23:20PM YOU AND THE CITY HAVE AN INTEREST IN EXPANDING AND
4:23:23PM INTENSIFICATION AND DEVELOPMENT.
4:23:25PM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS AN INTEREST IN PROTECTING ITS OWN
4:23:31PM INVESTMENT. WE PART OF THE REASON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS OF
4:23:36PM INTEREST TO MR. BARSHAM AND HE HOPES WILL BE INTERESTING TO
4:23:39PM HIS CUSTOMERS.
4:23:41PM AND WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPMENT AND THOSE
4:23:51PM BUNGALOWS ARE GOING TO BE DESTROYED, BUT WE HAVE A RIGHT TO
4:23:54PM SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LIVE WITH.
4:23:56PM THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LIVE WITH.
4:23:58PM SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT AT STAKE.
4:23:59PM WE HOPE YOU WILL THINK ABOUT THAT, AND RECONSIDER YOUR VOTE,
4:24:04PM THOSE WHO VOTED FOR APPROVAL LAST TIME BECAUSE YOU ARE
4:24:06PM ESSENTIALLY SAYING TO US, WE ARE TAXPAYERS AND VOTERS AND
4:24:10PM PROPERTY OWNERS OF 30 PLUS YEARS, YOU KNOW.
4:24:15PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
4:24:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:24:17PM >> MY NAME IS TAMARA HEIN, AND I WAS AT FIRST READING. I
4:24:32PM LIVE AT 410 SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE.
4:24:32PM BASICALLY, I AM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHERE THE
4:24:35PM DEPARTMENT WOULD BE DONE.
4:24:36PM I WANTED TO SPEAK WITH YOU AGAIN TODAY.
4:24:46PM WE UNDERSTAND THEY CAN PUT MORE UNITS ON THAT LOT THAN WHAT
4:24:50PM THEY ARE DOING.
4:24:51PM I THINK IT'S THE SIZE, THE MASSIVE SIZE OF THE PROJECT, THE
4:24:55PM FACT THAT IT'S FACING INWARD AND CREATING AN ISLAND ONTO
4:24:59PM ITSELF.
4:25:00PM AND, SURPRISINGLY, THEY ARE GETTING APPROVAL FOR A 10-FOOT
4:25:05PM SETBACK VERSUS A 20-FOOT SETBACK THAT'S GOING TO THROW THE
4:25:09PM WHOLE BLOCK OFF.
4:25:09PM SO HE WOULD BE THE ONLY ONES LIKE THAT.
4:25:11PM WHEN I SEE MASSIVE SIZE, I LIVE IN A TOWNHOUSE MYSELF IN A
4:25:16PM QUADPLEX RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
4:25:17PM IT IS SIZABLE, RIGHT?
4:25:19PM MY FRONT UNIT, TWO-STORY, 1,700 SQUARE FEET.
4:25:25PM LOOKING AT THESE, WHAT I AM SEEING FROM THE SITE PLAN, THE
4:25:30PM FIRST FLOOR IS 1,000 SQUARE FEET, A LITTLE OVER THAT PER
4:25:33PM UNIT.
4:25:34PM SO IF IT'S 3 STORIES, 3,000 SQUARE FEET, IS THAT CORRECT?
4:25:38PM THOSE ARE GARGANTUAN.
4:25:41PM SIX UNITS FACING EACH OTHER WITH A DOUBLE WIDE DRIVEWAY
4:25:44PM THAT'S ALMOST AS WIDE AS SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE.
4:25:47PM AN ISLAND UNTO ITSELF.
4:25:50PM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM GOING FROM SINGLE-FAMILY TO
4:25:55PM MULTI-UNIT.
4:25:56PM WAY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THAT THEY ARE NOT GIVEN A WAIVER
4:26:00PM FOR THE 10-FOOT SETBACK.
4:26:02PM THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE 20-FOOT SETBACK.
4:26:04PM AND IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE ROAD DOWN THE MIDDLE,
4:26:08PM THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
4:26:10PM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
4:26:12PM IT MEANS A LOT TO ME TODAY THAT YOU GIVE US CONSIDERATION.
4:26:16PM AND I DO WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL THANK YOU FROM LAST TIME TO
4:26:23PM BILL CARLSON AND LYNN HURTAK FOR HEARING ME ON THE PIECE
4:26:27PM ABOUT ARCHITECTURE WITH THE UNITS FACING EACH OTHER AND NOT
4:26:30PM FACING OUTWARD TOWARD ALBANY AVENUE TO REALLY
4:26:34PM ARCHITECTURALLY BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
4:26:36PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN
4:26:38PM BUT, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THE MINIMALIST SIDE ON THAT
4:26:44PM DESIGN IS THE ALBANY AVENUE VIEW OF WHAT WE WOULD SEE.
4:26:49PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:26:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
4:26:52PM MR. SHELBY.
4:26:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR YOUR OWN INFORMATION, EVEN THOUGH THEY
4:26:58PM ARE IN THE NOT PRESENT IN CHAMBERS, IF COUNCIL DOES HAVE ANY
4:27:01PM QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, STAFF IS AVAILABLE ONLINE.
4:27:03PM >>TYLER HUDSON: 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
4:27:14PM JUST A COUPLE POINTS.
4:27:15PM BEFORE A COUPLE ITEMS AGO, THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL
4:27:21PM PROCEDURE, AND AS I HAVE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, THE
4:27:25PM REQUIREMENTS UNDER STATE LAW IS THAT YOUR DECISIONS ON
4:27:28PM DEVELOPMENT MATTERS BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
4:27:31PM PLAN AND LOCAL LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
4:27:33PM WHAT WE PUT INTO THE RECORD AT THE LAST HEARING, AT WHICH
4:27:38PM THIS COUNCIL VOTED TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT, WAS THE STAFF
4:27:41PM REPORT FROM YOUR EXPERT STAFF AND DEVELOPMENT GROWTH
4:27:44PM MANAGEMENT FINDING IT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
4:27:46PM REGULATIONS OF THE CITY.
4:27:47PM LIKEWISE, THERE WAS A FINDING FROM THE EXPERTS THE PLANNING
4:27:50PM COMMISSION STAFF THAT IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE
4:27:52PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH WOULD ALLOW 50% MORE UNITS THAN
4:27:58PM WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING ON THE SITE.
4:27:59PM THOSE ARE HAVE NOT CHANGED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
4:28:03PM IT HAS NOT CHANGED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING THAT
4:28:05PM THIS IS A HIGHLY DESIRABLE PLACE TO LIVE.
4:28:07PM THESE PEOPLE LOVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS THEY SHOULD.
4:28:10PM AS I SAID LAST TIME, IT IS A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
4:28:12PM BUT MORE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN A WALKABLE, BIKEABLE,
4:28:19PM DESIRABLE NEIGHBORHOODS.
4:28:19PM THIS IS GOING TO GIVE A CHANCE AT HOME OWNERSHIP FOR MORE
4:28:22PM PEOPLE.
4:28:22PM THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
4:28:25PM OTHER THAN THAT, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT HAS CHANGED IS
4:28:28PM THAT WE HAVE MADE ALL OF THE SITE PLAN REVISIONS THAT WERE
4:28:32PM REQUESTED IN THE ADOPTION MOTION AT FIRST READING, AS
4:28:36PM LACHONE NOTED.
4:28:38PM MY CLIENT CAN'T BE HERE BECAUSE MY CLIENT HAD HIS -- HIS
4:28:44PM WIFE HAD THEIR FIRST CHILD SEVEN DAYS AFTER THE FIRST
4:28:46PM READING. HE CANNOT BE HERE. AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
4:28:48PM QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, BUT THIS PROJECT IS LEGALLY
4:28:50PM SOUND, YOUR STAFF, YOUR STAFF HAS FOUND IT CONSISTENT, IT
4:28:55PM WAS PROPER TO APPROVE IT LAST TIME, AND I BELIEVE IT SHOULD
4:28:58PM BE APPROVED AGAIN.
4:29:00PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
4:29:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
4:29:09PM YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SETBACKS.
4:29:10PM IS THAT A CHANGE?
4:29:15PM WHAT IS THAT CONSIDERED?
4:29:16PM >>LACHONE DOCK: COUNCILMAN GUDES, LACHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT
4:29:22PM COORDINATION.
4:29:23PM SO ON THE SITE ARE AMONG THE WEST AND EAST ARE 10 FEET
4:29:30PM SETBACKS, THE NORTH AND SOUTH ARE 5 FEET.
4:29:33PM THOSE ARE ADJUSTED ON THE SITE WAS THE ACCESS, THE
4:29:38PM CONNECTIONS TO THE SIDEWALKS.
4:29:39PM THERE'S A COUPLE OF POINTS OF CLARIFICATION I WANT TO MAKE.
4:29:42PM THE APPLICANT MENTIONED AN INCONSISTENT REPORT.
4:29:46PM INITIALLY WHEN THIS WAS FIRST SUBMITTED, THE PLANNING
4:29:51PM COMMISSION FOUND IT INCONSISTENT AND THEN IT CAME BACK
4:29:55PM BEFORE COUNCIL, THERE WAS A RENDITION MADE TO THE SITE PLAN
4:29:59PM AND IT WAS REGARDING THE ACCESS FROM THE SITE, THE PLACEMENT
4:30:05PM OF THE DOORS AND THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO THE ADJACENT
4:30:08PM SIDEWALK.
4:30:10PM AND THEN GAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION A REPORT WHICH WAS A
4:30:14PM FINDING OF CONSISTENT.
4:30:15PM SO WHAT HAS BEEN BEFORE YOU AT FIRST READING WAS A FINDING
4:30:19PM OF CONSISTENT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALONG WITH A
4:30:23PM CONSISTENT FROM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION STAFF.
4:30:28PM AND THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN BEFORE IT
4:30:30PM CAME BACK TO YOU FOR FIRST READING WERE THE ACCESS WITH THE
4:30:37PM DOOR'S ENTRY.
4:30:38PM I DON'T KNOW IF TYLER HAS THAT PLAN THERE AVAILABLE.
4:30:40PM >>TYLER HUDSON: COUNCILMAN GUDES, THE ONLY ISSUE WAS
4:30:44PM MISLABELING.
4:30:46PM THE DOORS WEREN'T LABELED CORRECTLY.
4:30:48PM WE LABELED THEM CORRECTLY, AND THAT'S WHAT CAUSED STAFF TO
4:30:51PM CHANGE THEIR FINDING TO CONSISTENCY.
4:30:52PM AND THERE IS NO SETBACK WAIVER.
4:30:55PM AS COUNCIL KNOWS FROM THE ABUNDANCE OF PDs, YOU SET YOUR
4:31:00PM OWN WAIVER, AND AS WE SHOWED WITH THE FIRST READING WITH
4:31:03PM RESEARCH THAT WE PUT INTO THE RECORDS, WE BELIEVE THAT THE
4:31:06PM SETBACK HERE IS CERTAINLY WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE OTHER
4:31:10PM TOWNHOMES IN THIS AREA, WHICH IS COMMON DEVELOPMENT TYPE ON
4:31:16PM THESE STREETS.
4:31:17PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:31:21PM THAT IS CORRECT.
4:31:22PM THIS IS A PD WHICH IS BEFORE YOU.
4:31:24PM THE SETBACKS ARE ESTABLISHED AS PART OF THIS PD.
4:31:26PM SO THERE IS NO WAIVER REQUIREMENT.
4:31:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:31:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS THE AVERAGE SETBACK ON THAT BLOCK?
4:31:34PM >>TYLER HUDSON: I BELIEVE IT'S 12 FEET 4 INCHES.
4:31:41PM I DON'T HAVE THAT, THE BLOCK AVERAGE SETBACK INFORMATION.
4:31:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. DOCK, DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION, WHAT
4:31:54PM THE BLOCK AVERAGE WOULD BE?
4:31:55PM >> WE'LL PULL IT UP.
4:32:02PM >>LACHONE DOCK: NO, I DON'T HAVE WHAT THE BLOCK AVERAGE IS.
4:32:04PM TYPICALLY WE WOULD HAVE THAT PROVIDED.
4:32:06PM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN AN OVERLAY DISTRICT AND
4:32:09PM THAT'S THE STANDARD, THE FRONT SETBACK AT THE AVERAGE OF THE
4:32:12PM BLOCK.
4:32:12PM BUT --
4:32:15PM >>TYLER HUDSON: WE ARE PULLING IT UP ONSCREEN.
4:32:18PM IT'S RIGHT HERE.
4:32:20PM IT'S MUCH LESS THAN 20.
4:32:23PM WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE THE DENSITY THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE
4:32:26PM PLAN DIRECTS TO LAND EXACTLY LIKE THIS.
4:32:31PM OUR SETBACK PROPOSAL IS REASONABLE.
4:32:33PM AND YOUR STAFF FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
4:32:37PM CODE, AND PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH
4:32:40PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
4:32:42PM THAT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN THAT AND I THINK THAT'S
4:32:49PM VERY OLD.
4:32:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
4:33:00PM IS THAT YOUR REBUTTAL?
4:33:03PM >>TYLER HUDSON: YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
4:33:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:33:06PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:33:08PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:33:12PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:33:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
4:33:16PM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
4:33:18PM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
4:33:20PM VICINITY OF 407 AND 409 SOUTH ALBANY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF
4:33:24PM TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
4:33:27PM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL
4:33:31PM MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
4:33:33PM SINGLE-FAMILY, DETACHED AND SEMI R DETACHED PROVIDING AN
4:33:36PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:33:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:33:39PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:33:41PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
4:33:45PM I AM GOING TO SAY THIS.
4:33:49PM I ALMOST TO A FAULT, I PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.
4:33:56PM I AM GOING TO CHANGE MY VOTE.
4:33:59PM AND THIS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
4:34:04PM A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WE HAD A PROPERTY THAT WE FELT, SOME OF
4:34:09PM US FELT, WAS AN ACTUAL STEP DOWN FROM HIGH-RISES TO
4:34:16PM SINGLE-FAMILY.
4:34:17PM AND IN MY OPINION THIS IS JUST GOING TO BE MONOLITHIC IN A
4:34:22PM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
4:34:23PM I WANTED TO EXPLAIN THE REASON WHY I AM CHAINING MY VOTE.
4:34:28PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
4:34:30PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON, CITRO, AND HURTAK
4:34:40PM VOTING NO.
4:34:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:34:56PM AGENDA 9.
4:34:57PM FILE REZ 22-77.
4:34:59PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:35:05PM COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
4:35:08PM THIS REZONING REQUEST IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 310
4:35:11PM WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
4:35:13PM THE APPLICANT IS BEING REPRESENTED BY STEVE MICHELINI.
4:35:17PM THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RM-16
4:35:20PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND FOR
4:35:24PM THE USE OF RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
4:35:27PM AND THE REQUIRED SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND
4:35:33PM SECOND READING, THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
4:35:34PM THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED.
4:35:36PM AND THEY HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
4:35:38PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
4:35:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
4:35:44PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
4:35:49PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I WAS ALMOST GOING TO SAY GOOD EVENING,
4:35:51PM COUNCIL.
4:35:52PM STEVE MICHELINI HERE REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
4:35:54PM YOU MAY RECALL THAT THIS WAS FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT BY THE
4:35:57PM PLANNING COMMISSION, CITY STAFF, AND I WE ASK FOR A COUPLE
4:36:02PM OF MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN WHICH WE HAVE MADE, AND
4:36:05PM THIS HAS NOW BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE STAFF AS BEING ACCEPTABLE
4:36:08PM TO BE PRESENTED TO YOU FOR SECOND READING.
4:36:11PM IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY SO I WON'T GO INTO ALL THE OTHER
4:36:14PM DETAILS, BUT ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT
4:36:17PM HAVE, AND THAT WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
4:36:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES
4:36:26PM TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS?
4:36:31PM SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
4:36:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
4:36:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
4:36:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES,
4:36:38PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:36:40PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:36:42PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:36:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
4:36:44PM MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
4:36:46PM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
4:36:49PM VICINITY OF 310 WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE, CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
4:36:52PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
4:36:54PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO PD
4:36:57PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY R ATTACHED,
4:36:59PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:37:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
4:37:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA,
4:37:06PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:37:11PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
4:37:13PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO AND HURTAK
4:37:19PM VOTING NO.
4:37:20PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
4:37:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 90, FILE REZ 22-102.
4:37:28PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:37:35PM COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND
4:37:38PM ADOPTION.
4:37:38PM THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 904 EAST OSBORNE AVENUE.
4:37:42PM THE APPLICANT IS SHANE O'NEIL, AND THIS REQUIRES JUST TO
4:37:47PM REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM SH-CG SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL
4:37:52PM GENERAL TO SH-RM, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
4:37:56PM THIS IS THE EUCLIDEAN REQUEST.
4:37:58PM THERE WAS NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DID.
4:38:01PM AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
4:38:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
4:38:06PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
4:38:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
4:38:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:38:13PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:38:15PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:38:17PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:38:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO REOPEN.
4:38:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
4:38:26PM THIS AGENDA ITEM?
4:38:27PM I'M SORRY, MOTION TO REOPEN BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:38:31PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:38:32PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:38:33PM IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
4:38:35PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
4:38:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
4:38:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:38:42PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:38:43PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:38:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE REZ 22-1023.
4:38:49PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
4:38:51PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
4:38:55PM 904 EAST OSBORNE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
4:38:59PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
4:39:02PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION SH-CG SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMERCIAL
4:39:07PM GENERAL TO SH-RM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY,
4:39:12PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:39:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
4:39:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:39:16PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:39:17PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
4:39:22PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
4:39:23PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4:39:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 91.
4:39:30PM FILE REZ 22-104.
4:39:32PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:39:37PM COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
4:39:41PM THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 200 IT AND 2015, SAXON
4:39:49PM STREET.
4:39:49PM THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RM-16
4:39:52PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD
4:39:56PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
4:40:02PM THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY ALEX RIOS.
4:40:05PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
4:40:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
4:40:09PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
4:40:11PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
4:40:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WISHING TO
4:40:26PM SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM?
4:40:29PM SEEING NONE, I HEAR NO ONE IS ONLINE.
4:40:31PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:40:33PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:40:35PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:40:37PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
4:40:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: FILE REZ 22-104.
4:40:44PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION,
4:40:46PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
4:40:49PM 2009 AND 2015 SAXON STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
4:40:55PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN N SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
4:40:58PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND
4:41:01PM RO-1 RESIDENTIAL OFFICE TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT
4:41:04PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
4:41:05PM DATE.
4:41:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:41:08PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
4:41:11PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
4:41:12PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4:41:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:41:22PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 92.
4:41:24PM FILE REZ 22-111.
4:41:28PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:41:34PM COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
4:41:37PM THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1210 EAST COLUMBUS
4:41:40PM DRIVE.
4:41:41PM THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO YC-2 YBOR CITY
4:41:44PM RESIDENTIAL TO YC-9 YBOR CITY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR THE
4:41:52PM USE OF BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
4:41:54PM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
4:41:57PM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
4:41:59PM CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
4:41:59PM THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR
4:42:02PM AND HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
4:42:03PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
4:42:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
4:42:08PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
4:42:12PM SEEING NO PETITIONER, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS
4:42:15PM AGENDA ITEM?
4:42:18PM AND NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
4:42:20PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:42:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:42:23PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:42:25PM THANK YOU.
4:42:25PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:42:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER REZ 22-111, ORDINANCE BEING
4:42:33PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
4:42:35PM REZONING FORGOT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1210 EAST
4:42:39PM COLUMBUS DRIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
4:42:42PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
4:42:44PM CLASSIFICATION YC-2 YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT TO YC-9 YBOR
4:42:50PM CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE,
4:42:54PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:42:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
4:42:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:42:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:43:00PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
4:43:02PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
4:43:03PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4:43:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 93, FILE REZ 22-119.
4:43:16PM >>LACHONE DOCK: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:43:22PM COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
4:43:26PM THIS REQUEST IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING REQUEST.
4:43:30PM THIS IS TO REQUEST A REZONE FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
4:43:33PM SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY,
4:43:39PM REPRESENTED BY TODD PRESSMAN.
4:43:42PM THERE'S NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
4:43:44PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
4:43:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
4:43:48PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
4:43:49PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: 200 SECOND AVENUE SOUTH, NUMBER 431,
4:43:55PM ST. PETERSBURG.
4:43:58PM I WILL KEEP IT VERY SHORT.
4:43:59PM COUNCIL APPROVED THIS. I BELIEVE IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
4:44:03PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF SUPPORT IT AND WE HAD NO
4:44:07PM OPPOSITION, AND PRESENTED SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS IN
4:44:10PM SUPPORT.
4:44:11PM THANK YOU.
4:44:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
4:44:21PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO
4:44:23PM SPEAK TO THIS?
4:44:25PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE?
4:44:27PM MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
4:44:30PM MANISCALCO.
4:44:30PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:44:32PM ALL RIGHT.
4:44:33PM LET'S SEE, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:44:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE REZ 22-119, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
4:44:42PM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
4:44:45PM PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4107 EAST REGNAS AVENUE
4:44:50PM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY
4:44:52PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
4:44:55PM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
4:45:00PM SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:45:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:45:06PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:45:08PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
4:45:10PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
4:45:11PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
4:45:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 94.
4:45:29PM FILE VAC 23-07.
4:45:33PM >>ROSS SAMONS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR IN ANY CASE.
4:45:36PM I AM GOING TO ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE.
4:45:48PM PRESENTING FILE VAC 23-03.
4:45:51PM THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
4:45:53PM THE APPLICANT IS THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA INCORPORATED.
4:45:57PM REPRESENTATIVE'S NAME IS AUSTIN GOFF.
4:46:00PM THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 211 NORTH EUCLID AVENUE.
4:46:07PM THIS PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS NEWPORT AVENUE AND
4:46:12PM ALLEYWAY NORTH OF A STREET, SOUTH OF NORTH B STREET AND EAST
4:46:16PM OF WILLOW AVENUE AND WEST OF CSX RAILROAD CORRIDOR.
4:46:21PM THE APPLICATION WAS FILED WITH CITY OF TAMPA ON NOVEMBER
4:46:23PM 22ND, 2022.
4:46:25PM THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE AND
4:46:28PM ALLEYWAY THAT IS REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.
4:46:30PM THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS TO VACATE
4:46:33PM RIGHT-OF-WAY CONTROL THE AREA TO PICK UP A DUMPSTER.
4:46:38PM CURRENTLY CARS ARE BLOCKING THE SOLID WASTE VEHICLE ACCESS
4:46:41PM TO DUMPSTERS AND CANNOT GET SERVICED.
4:46:46PM STREET AND ALLEYWAY, STREETS ARE 13,644 PLUS OR MINUS SQUARE
4:46:52PM FEET.
4:46:54PM AN AERIAL VIEW, THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST, APPLICANT'S
4:46:57PM PROPERTY IS IN RED, AND THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN
4:47:01PM YELLOW.
4:47:03PM THIS IS THE SECTION OF NEWPORT AVENUE, AND THE ALLEYWAY ON
4:47:08PM THE BLOCK.
4:47:14PM THIS IS THE NORTH NEWPORT AVENUE WITHIN THE COLLINS ADDITION
4:47:19PM TO WEST TAMPA SUBDIVISION PLAT AND THE ALLEYWAY IN BLOCK 15.
4:47:27PM THIS IS A SURVEY DESCRIPTION AND SKETCH SUBMITTED BY THE
4:47:32PM APPLICANT SHOWING THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN GRAY.
4:47:42PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON THE ALLEYWAY ON WEST NORTH B
4:47:48PM STREET.
4:47:49PM THIS IS NOTHING NORTH ON THE ALLEY FROM NORTHWEST A STREET.
4:47:55PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY OF NORTH NEWPORT
4:47:59PM AVENUE.
4:48:02PM LOOKING NORTH ON NEWPORT AVENUE.
4:48:10PM STAFF HAD NO ACTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
4:48:13PM EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED BY SOLID, WASTEWATER,
4:48:17PM SPECTRUM AND TECO, IN CHAPTER 27 TREE PRESERVATION, PLACED
4:48:24PM ADJACENT TO TREES IN THE VACATED AREA.
4:48:26PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
4:48:28PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
4:48:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
4:48:32PM HEARING NONE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
4:48:36PM I GUESS WE GO RIGHT TO THE APPLICANT.
4:48:39PM YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN SO COME ON UP.
4:48:40PM >> AUSTIN GOFF, 4242 HENDERSON, AND DIRECTOR IN DESIGN AND
4:48:48PM CONSTRUCTION, UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
4:48:52PM STAFF DOES NOT OBJECT. WE REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS
4:48:56PM VACATION.
4:48:56PM THANK YOU.
4:48:58PM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
4:49:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
4:49:04PM SEEING NONE.
4:49:05PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
4:49:07PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 94, VAC 23-03?
4:49:14PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
4:49:16PM NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
4:49:18PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:49:19PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:49:21PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:49:23PM LET'S SEE, WHO IS GOING TO READ THIS ONE?
4:49:26PM WHO DID THE LAST ONE?
4:49:28PM I BELIEVE IT IS COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:49:32PM OH, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:49:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE VAC 23-03, ORDINANCE FOR FIRST
4:49:39PM READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
4:49:41PM FLORIDA VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, ABANDONING A
4:49:44PM PORTION OF NEWPORT AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THAT CERTAIN
4:49:46PM ALLEYWAY BOTH LOCATED NORTH OF NORTH A STREET SOUTH OF NORTH
4:49:50PM A STREET, EAST OF WILLOW AVENUE AND WEST OF THE CSX RAILROAD
4:49:54PM CORRIDOR ALL WITHIN THE PLAT OF COLLINS ADDITION TO WEST
4:49:56PM TAMPA SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
4:49:59PM FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF
4:50:02PM SUBJECT TO RESERVATION OF CERTAIN EASEMENTS AND THE
4:50:06PM IMPOSITION OF CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONSEQUENCE CONDITIONS AND
4:50:09PM RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN PROVIDING
4:50:12PM FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS PROVIDING FOR
4:50:16PM ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS PROVIDING FOR
4:50:20PM DEFINITIONS INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS
4:50:22PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
4:50:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:50:25PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
4:50:27PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
4:50:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
4:50:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
4:50:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:50:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
4:50:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
4:50:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
4:50:38PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
4:50:40PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
4:50:42PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 2nd,
4:50:45PM 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
4:50:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
4:50:52PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 96, FILE VRB 22-98-C.
4:50:58PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
4:51:08PM ITEM NUMBER 96 IS REGARDING VRB 22-98.
4:51:12PM THIS IS A REVIEW HEARING FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4010
4:51:16PM WEST STATE STREET.
4:51:18PM THE PETITIONER FOR THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW IS TODD
4:51:22PM PRESSMAN.
4:51:22PM HE'S THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR THIS REQUEST.
4:51:26PM HE FILED A REQUEST TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD FOR TWO
4:51:30PM VARIANCES.
4:51:31PM ONE TO INCREASE THE FLAGPOLE HEIGHT FROM 45 FEET TO 100
4:51:34PM FEET, AND ANOTHER VARIANCE TO INCREASE THE SIGN SQUARE
4:51:38PM FOOTAGE FROM 50 SQUARE FEET TO 716 SQUARE FEET.
4:51:44PM ON NOVEMBER 8, 2022 THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD HEARD THE
4:51:48PM REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT AND DENIED THE REQUEST FOR FAILURE
4:51:52PM OF THE PETITIONER TO PRESENT COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL
4:51:55PM EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD REGARDING THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA
4:51:58PM OUTLINED IN CODE SECTION 27-80.
4:52:01PM IN YOUR PACKETS, CITY COUNCIL, I PROVIDED YOU CODE SECTIONS
4:52:05PM 27-61, 27-80 AND 27-289.23.
4:52:12PM SAMPLE MOTIONS AND RULES OF PROCEDURE.
4:52:15PM THE STANDARD OF REVIEW ACCORDING TO 27-61-J-2 IS A DE NOVO
4:52:21PM STANDARD OF REVIEW WHICH MEANS THAT CITY COUNCIL SHALL NOT
4:52:24PM BE LIMITED IN ITS REVIEW FOR INFORMATION, DOCUMENTATION OR
4:52:27PM EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE BOARD BASED ITS DETERMINATION.
4:52:31PM THE STAFF ON THIS REGARDING THIS MATTER IS JAYNE NMADU.
4:52:40PM UPON HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE IN THIS MATTER, CITY COUNCIL
4:52:44PM CAN TAKE SEVERAL ACTIONS.
4:52:46PM CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW
4:52:48PM BOARD AND DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE TWO VARIANCES.
4:52:54PM CITY COUNCIL CAN REMAND THE MATTER BACK TO THE VRB WITH
4:52:58PM FURTHER DIRECTION.
4:52:59PM OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE VRB AND
4:53:04PM THEREBY GRANT THE VARIANCES REQUESTED BY THE PETITIONER, AND
4:53:08PM CITY COUNCIL CAN ALSO PLACE CONDITIONS IF CITY COUNCIL IS
4:53:12PM INCLINED TO APPROVE THE VARIANCES REQUESTED.
4:53:15PM WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
4:53:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
4:53:20PM I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
4:53:24PM THE VOTING, NOT HOME VOTED UP OR DOWN, DO YOU KNOW?
4:53:33PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MS. NMADU CAN LET NOW THAT.
4:53:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY.
4:53:39PM IF COUNCIL CAN JUST MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ANY
4:53:42PM EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS, AND IF THERE'S BEEN ANY EX PARTE
4:53:45PM COMMUNICATIONS DONE VERBALLY TO DISCLOSE THEM NOW.
4:53:49PM THANK YOU.
4:53:50PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, PLEASE.
4:53:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
4:53:54PM MANISCALCO.
4:53:55PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:53:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:53:58PM THANK YOU.
4:53:58PM >>JAYNE NMADU: PERMISSION TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
4:54:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT'S NOT UP YET.
4:54:16PM I NEED YOU ALSO TO BE SWORN IN, PLEASE.
4:54:18PM >>THE CLERK: JAYNE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
4:54:26PM DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE ABOUT
4:54:28PM TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
4:54:32PM >>JAYNE NMADU: I DO.
4:54:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EVERYONE IN THE ROOM HAS BEEN SWORN IN
4:54:35PM THAT'S GOING TO BE GIVING EVIDENCE, CORRECT?
4:54:38PM THANK YOU.
4:54:39PM PLEASE PROCEED.
4:54:40PM >>JAYNE NMADU: GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
4:54:44PM MY NAME IS JAYNE NMADU, WITH DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
4:54:48PM THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS VRB 22-98 AND IT'S A REVIEW
4:54:54PM HEARING FOR PROPERTY ADDRESS OF 4010 WEST STATE STREET.
4:55:01PM THE APPLICANT IS TODD PRESSMAN.
4:55:03PM THIS PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMERCIAL GENERAL.
4:55:07PM AND THE VARIANCE REQUEST. WAS TO INCREASE THE FLAGPOLE
4:55:10PM HEIGHT FROM 45 FEET TO 100 FEET AND SIGN FOOTAGE FROM 50
4:55:15PM FEET TO BE 7 --
4:55:19PM >> I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT YOURSELF ONE MORE TIME?
4:55:23PM >> THE VARIANCE REQUEST. IS TO INCREASE THE FLAGPOLE RIGHT
4:55:26PM FROM 45 FEET TO 100 FEET, AND INCREASE THE SIGN SQUARE
4:55:30PM FOOTAGE FROM 50 SQUARE FEET TO 760 SQUARE FEET.
4:55:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:55:36PM >> FOR THE PURPOSE OF A FLAG.
4:55:38PM THE CODE SECTION IN REFERENCE IS SECTION 27-289.3-A-2 THAT
4:55:44PM HAS FLAGS FOR NONRESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT AT A MAXIMUM
4:55:49PM HEIGHT OF 45 FEET AND A MAXIMUM SIZE OF 50 SQUARE FEET.
4:55:56PM THE CODE CRITERIA THAT'S USED IN THE DETERMINATION OF THIS
4:56:01PM VARIANCE REQUEST. WAS ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS A
4:56:04PM UNIQUE AND SINGLE OR DIFFICULTY TO THIS PROPERTY, TWO THAT
4:56:08PM IT WAS NOT A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP, THREE THAT IT WAS NOT
4:56:12PM INJURIOUS TO THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELLNESS OF OTHER
4:56:14PM PEOPLE, THAT IT WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TAMPA
4:56:17PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND CITY OF TAMPA CODE, AND THAT THIS
4:56:20PM WOULD NOT RESULT IN -- THIS WILL RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL
4:56:24PM JUSTICE TO BOTH THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
4:56:29PM THIS WAS THE CRITERIA THAT THE BOARD TOOK IN DECIDING ON
4:56:34PM THIS APPLICATION.
4:56:38PM ON NOVEMBER 8, 2022, AFTER TESTIMONY WAS HEARD, THE VARIANCE
4:56:43PM REVIEW BOARD DENIED THE REQUEST FOR 420 AND THE APPLICANT IS
4:56:52PM HERE SEEKING A REVIEW OF THAT.
4:56:55PM HE'S APPEALING THAT DECISION TODAY.
4:56:59PM THIS IS AN AERIAL SHOWING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AT 4010 WEST
4:57:04PM STATE STREET.
4:57:05PM IT IS THE PROPERTY THAT IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE ORANGE AND
4:57:09PM DASHED LINES.
4:57:10PM IT'S IN THE WESTSHORE PLANNING DISTRICT AND IT IS FLANGED BY
4:57:19PM WEST STATE STREET AND THE WEST SIDE BY I-275, NORTHBOUND.
4:57:29PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THE APPLICANT PROVIDED.
4:57:34PM I WOULD WANT TO MENTION TO THE BOARD THAT IN 2015 THE
4:57:38PM APPLICANT HAD APPLIED FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION ONE WHICH WAS
4:57:42PM DENIED BY THE DEPARTMENT.
4:57:43PM THEY WENT TO CITY COUNCIL AND CITY COUNCIL OVERTURNED THE
4:57:47PM DECISION OF THE DEPARTMENT, THE INCREASE IN THE FLAGPOLE
4:57:52PM FROM 45 TO 75 FEET, AND SIGNAGE INCREASED TO 100 SQUARE
4:57:58PM FEET, WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE FLAG WOULD NOT BE USED FOR
4:58:04PM ADVERTISEMENT PURPOSES.
4:58:07PM SO THIS RIGHT HERE, IF YOU CAN SEE, IS WHERE THE EXISTING
4:58:12PM FLAG IS, AND THEY HAVE COME IN FOR ANOTHER VARIANCE.
4:58:19PM THIS PICTURE IS SHOWING THE EXISTING SIGNAGE ON THE PROPERTY
4:58:22PM CURRENTLY.
4:58:24PM THEY DO HAVE A DESIGN WHICH YOU SEE HERE, THEY HAVE A PYLON
4:58:34PM SIGN, AND THIS IS THE FLAGPOLE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL IN
4:58:37PM 2015.
4:58:39PM NOW, BY WAY OF INFORMATION, I WOULD JUST WANT TO QUICKLY
4:58:43PM MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN WHAT A SIGN IS AND WHAT A FLAG
4:58:48PM IS.
4:58:49PM SO A SIGN THAT IS USED, TO BE TEMPORARY OR PERMANENT, THAT
4:58:55PM IS USED TO ATTRACT ATTENTION TO THE SUBJECT'S MATTER, IT
4:59:01PM COULD BE A PICTURE OR COULD BE A COPY, BUT THE IDEA IS IT'S
4:59:05PM SUPPOSED TO ATTRACT THE ATTENTION OF PEOPLE TO SEE THE
4:59:09PM PROPERTY.
4:59:10PM A FLAG IS ANYTHING THAT IS BY OUR CODE ANYTHING THAT THE
4:59:16PM FLAG OF A NATION OR STATE OR COUNTY OR A DISTRICT OR A CITY.
4:59:22PM THOSE WE REGARD AS FLAGS, NOT AS SIGNS.
4:59:27PM AND I WANTED TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION TO CITY COUNCIL.
4:59:34PM SO THIS IS WHAT IS ALSO EXISTING, THE FLAGPOLE THAT WAS
4:59:38PM APPROVED IN 2015, AND I ALREADY SHOWED YOU PICTURES OF WHAT
4:59:42PM THEY ALREADY HAVE EXISTING.
4:59:43PM SO BY RIGHT, WHAT THEY HAVE HAD, THEY CAN HAVE A
4:59:46PM FREE-STANDING SIGN WITH A AREA 50 SQUARE FEET PER SIGN FACE.
4:59:51PM THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE A SIGN WITH A MAXIMUM OF 1.25
4:59:57PM SQUARE FOOT PER LINEAL STREET FRONTAGE.
5:00:00PM THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE BY RIGHT.
5:00:02PM WHAT THEY HAVE PRESENTLY IS THAT THEY HAVE THE FREE-STANDING
5:00:04PM SIGN, THEY HAVE A PYLON SIGN, AND THEN THEY HAVE A FLAGPOLE
5:00:10PM OF 75 FEET WHICH IN THE PREVIOUS PICTURE IS MEETS SIGN.
5:00:17PM THE VARIANCE WAS TO ADD ADDITIONAL FLAGPOLE OR SEMI FLAGPOLE
5:00:22PM AT A HEIGHT OF 100 FEET WITH SIGN SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 760,
5:00:28PM WHICH IS ALREADY 710 SQUARE FEET OVER WHAT THEY WILL BE
5:00:33PM ALLOWED PER CODE.
5:00:37PM I ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE CRITERIA THAT THE BOARD USED IN
5:00:42PM THE DECISION.
5:00:43PM AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD BE AVAILABLE.
5:00:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:00:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION.
5:00:50PM YOU SAID THAT FLAGS ARE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE FLAGS FOR
5:00:55PM GOVERNMENT ENTITIES.
5:00:57PM THIS WAS NOT A FLAG FOR A GOVERNMENT ENTITY.
5:01:00PM THAT WAS AN ADVERTISEMENT, CORRECT?
5:01:02PM >>JAYNE NMADU: CORRECT.
5:01:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO EVEN IF WE APPROVED THIS, THEY STILL
5:01:08PM COULDN'T FLY THE FLAG THEY ARE CURRENTLY FLYING.
5:01:11PM >>JAYNE NMADU: CORRECT.
5:01:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THIS DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM OF THEM
5:01:19PM USING IT FOR ADVERTISEMENT.
5:01:20PM THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO COMPLY AND MAKE THAT AN ACTUAL FLAG
5:01:26PM OF AN ENTITY, A GOVERNMENT ENTITY, SAY.
5:01:28PM >>JAYNE NMADU: RIGHT.
5:01:30PM SO WHAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE IS A NATIONAL FLAG OR
5:01:34PM STATE FLAG, NOT A BUSINESS FLAG, NOT ANY CORPORATE FLAG.
5:01:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DID THEY GET ANY TYPE OF CODE ENFORCEMENT
5:01:46PM VIOLATION FOR THAT?
5:01:48PM >>JAYNE NMADU: THEY HAVEN'T.
5:01:52PM NOT YET.
5:01:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
5:01:54PM BUT THEY WILL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF NOTHING HAPPENS
5:01:56PM TODAY, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO BACK TO FLYING A
5:01:59PM GOVERNMENT FLAG.
5:02:01PM >>JAYNE NMADU: CORRECT.
5:02:02PM BECAUSE THE CONDITION UNDER WHICH THIS WAS APPROVED IS THIS
5:02:06PM WOULD NOT BE USED FOR ABYSS FLAG.
5:02:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
5:02:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEE, HERE IS THE THING THAT GETS US IN
5:02:13PM TROUBLE.
5:02:16PM COUNCIL POINTED OUT TWO VIOLATIONS.
5:02:19PM WHY IS THIS EVEN BEFORE US?
5:02:23PM I HATE TO SAY THAT.
5:02:24PM AND I LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL HAD ALREADY STIPULATED,
5:02:28PM IT COULD GO TO 75-FOOT.
5:02:30PM IS THAT CORRECT?
5:02:32PM >>JAYNE NMADU: YES, SIR.
5:02:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WHY DO WE EVEN ACCEPT THIS APPLICATION
5:02:36PM KNOWING THAT THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL HAD ALREADY MADE
5:02:40PM STIPULATIONS WHEN THEY GRANTED IT THE LAST TIME?
5:02:45PM IT PUTS US IN A BAD POSITION.
5:02:47PM WHEN I LOOK AT YOUR DOCUMENTS, YOU HAVE ALREADY STATED THE
5:02:50PM LAST COUNCIL SAID THEY OVERTURNED IT AND GRANTED IT, BUT
5:02:54PM SAID FOR THE STIPULATION NO MORE THAN 75.
5:02:58PM AND NOW THIS COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE A DECISION WHEN IT WAS
5:03:02PM ALREADY STATED BY THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL -- IT JUST PUTS THIS
5:03:08PM COUNCIL IN A BAD SITUATION. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GREAT STAFF.
5:03:15PM CITIES ARE MADE TO BRING THINGS TO THIS COUNCIL TO PUT US IN
5:03:18PM A POSITION WHEN THERE'S RULES AND GUIDELINES, AND IT LOOKS
5:03:23PM BAD WHEN A PETITIONER IS HERE, AND KNOWING THAT THERE'S SOME
5:03:29PM VIOLATIONS HERE, OR -- VIOLATIONS.
5:03:38PM COUNCILMAN POINTED OUT THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT SIGN ON THE
5:03:40PM POLE.
5:03:41PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:03:43PM YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.
5:03:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I ADDRESS THAT?
5:03:47PM BECAUSE THIS HAS COME UP IN THE PAST.
5:03:48PM AND I FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES IS EXPRESSING
5:03:52PM HERE.
5:03:54PM BUT THE DISCRETION, IF IT IS FILED, WELL, FIRST OF ALL,
5:04:02PM WHAT'S BEEN ALLEGED OR WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY OF IS
5:04:05PM THE FACT THAT THIS MAY INVOLVE AN ISSUE WITH THE PROPRIETY
5:04:10PM OF WHAT'S BEING FLOWN THERE.
5:04:12PM THAT BEING THE CASE, WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN AND PAYS FOR A
5:04:17PM FILING, AND SOMEBODY MAKES A REQUEST AND SOMEBODY ASKS FOR A
5:04:19PM VARIANCE, STAFF CAN'T SAY NO, OR MAYBE UNDER SOME
5:04:27PM CIRCUMSTANCES THEY CAN OR THEY DO, BUT NOT NORMALLY, NO.
5:04:30PM SO WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU IS THE WAY TO DISCOURAGE THIS
5:04:35PM SORT OF HAPPENING IS TO EXERCISE YOUR AUTHORITY, AND THEN DO
5:04:40PM WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES AND BE CONSISTENT, AND THEN THAT
5:04:45PM SENDS A MESSAGE TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE THAT THIS COUNCIL
5:04:49PM WILL ACT UPON THE FACTS AS IS IN FRONT OF THEM IRRESPECTIVE
5:04:54PM OF WHO COMES BEFORE THEM.
5:04:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
5:04:59PM I AGREE WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
5:05:02PM WE HAD AN AGENDA HERE WITH FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT OTHER
5:05:05PM VARIANCES THAT PEOPLE WERE ASKING FOR.
5:05:07PM SO WE ALL HAVE ONE VOTE.
5:05:11PM PETITIONER.
5:05:12PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: I HAVE A PowerPoint FOR YOU.
5:05:19PM THIS IS DR. KAVOUKLIS WHO IS THE PROPERTY OWNER.
5:05:26PM IF YOU PULL THIS UP, PLEASE.
5:05:39PM IF YOU COULD PULL THE PowerPoint UP, PLEASE.
5:05:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALMOST THERE.
5:05:43PM WE WON'T HAVE IT ON OUR SCREEN.
5:05:47PM THERE YOU GO.
5:05:47PM THANK YOU.
5:05:48PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:05:50PM THIS IS THE PROPERTY OF DR. KAVOUKLIS OPERATED FOR MANY,
5:05:55PM MANY YEARS, AND YOU CAN SEE HE HAD A TYPICAL FREE-STANDING
5:05:58PM SIGN, AND GREAT VISIBILITY, I 2275.
5:06:03PM THIS IS WHAT HE HAS TODAY.
5:06:07PM AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY WITH, ENJOYED
5:06:10PM VISIBILITY AND HIGH DEGREE OF VISIBILITY, LOCATION, PLACE,
5:06:15PM AWARENESS, AND THIS IS WHAT HE HAS TODAY.
5:06:18PM THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN DESTROYED.
5:06:20PM FOR ANY KIND OF VISIBILITY OF ANY KIND WHATSOEVER.
5:06:23PM IT HAS BEEN TREMENDOUSLY IMPACTED, AND NEGATIVELY IMPACTED
5:06:29PM BY I-275.
5:06:31PM THAT IS THE CRUX OF A VARIANCE.
5:06:33PM AND A HARDSHIP HAS BEEN CREATED THAT WAS NOT CREATED BY THE
5:06:36PM APPLICANT.
5:06:37PM THAT CAUSES NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE PROPERTY.
5:06:41PM I THINK THAT'S A CASE HERE THAT PERSONAL OPINION, THAT IS
5:06:45PM UNDENIABLE.
5:06:46PM SO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS A SECOND FLAGPOLE TO INCREASE
5:06:49PM FROM 45 FEET TO 100 FEET AND INCREASE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO
5:06:53PM A LEVEL THAT WOULD SOMEHOW BRING BACK A MINIMUM OF
5:07:00PM VISIBILITY TO THE PROPERTY.
5:07:02PM NOW, WHAT WE ARE DOING ON THE SITE PLAN IS EXISTING SIGN,
5:07:04PM WHICH IS WORTHLESS, AND DOESN'T DO ANYTHING, AS YOU SAW.
5:07:09PM WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE IT.
5:07:10PM WE ARE GIVING UP A FREE-STANDING SIGNAGE.
5:07:12PM ALTHOUGH THIS COUNCIL, OR THIS PRIOR COUNCIL APPROVED A
5:07:17PM FREE-STANDING SIGN, MUCH HIGHER AND LARGER, IT WOULDN'T BE
5:07:22PM ENOUGH, AND DR. KAVOUKLIS WOULD PREFER TO HAVE A FLAG,
5:07:29PM POLITICAL FLAG, UNITED STATES FLAG, STATE OF FLORIDA FLAG,
5:07:32PM WHICH BRINGS SOME AWARENESS TO THE AREA, SOME AWARENESS TO
5:07:36PM THE SITE, TO MAKE UP FOR THE INCREDIBLE DAMAGE THAT'S BEEN
5:07:40PM BROUGHT TO THE PROPERTY.
5:07:42PM SO ON THE PLAN AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, WE ARE REMOVING
5:07:45PM FREE-STANDING SIGN THERE.
5:07:46PM WILL BE NO FREE-STANDING SIGN.
5:07:48PM AND WE ARE ASKING TO AND SHOWING YOU AN EXISTING FLAGPOLE,
5:07:51PM AND WE ARE ASKING TO INSTALL A SECOND FLAGPOLE WHICH WOULD
5:07:56PM BE HIGHER AND LARGER TO SARASOTA IT TO ACCOUNT WHICH WOULD
5:08:01PM LOOK SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THE EXISTING FLAG WOULD STAY THE
5:08:05PM SAME.
5:08:05PM NOW, THE SECOND DIMENSION OF THE SIGN CODE IS THAT YOU ARE
5:08:09PM AWARDED A WALL SIGN.
5:08:11PM AGAIN A WALL SIGN IS COMPLETELY NOT VISIBLE FROM THE
5:08:15PM ROADWAY, AS EVERY OTHER BUSINESS IN TAMPA HAS A WALL SIGN,
5:08:18PM THIS DOES NOT WORK AND CANNOT WORK.
5:08:20PM SO THE PROPERTY IS DAMAGED IN TWO DEGREES, MENTIONS
5:08:25PM COMPLETELY WITH THE SIGN CODE ALLOWS.
5:08:26PM THIS IS SHOWING THE BUILDING AND THE ADJOINING FREEWAY, YOU
5:08:30PM CAN SEE THE WALL SIGN AGAIN, WOULD BE COMPLETELY INVISIBLE
5:08:35PM TO THE ROADWAY.
5:08:37PM A WHAT YOU WILL SIGN WORKS FOR OTHERS WHERE THAT HUMP IS,
5:08:42PM AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE HUMP AND HIS WALL SIGN
5:08:45PM WILL NOT WORK.
5:08:47PM SO IN 2015 COUNCIL DID APPROVE A 75-FOOT HIGH SIGN AND 100
5:08:51PM SQUARE FEET.
5:08:52PM BUT DR. KAVOUKLIS, AND HE WILL TALK ABOUT THIS, REALLY
5:08:55PM DECIDED 9 WAS NOT TO BE, AND IT WOULD REALLY JUST BE A LOT
5:08:58PM OF EYE POLLUTION WITH ELECTRIC SIGN PROMOTING HIMSELF,
5:09:02PM MINIMALLY, SOMEWHAT MINIMALLY, ON A ROADWAY.
5:09:05PM SO WE ARE REQUESTING A SECOND FLAGPOLE TO INCREASE THE
5:09:10PM HEIGHT, INCREASE THE FLAGPOLE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND REMOVE THE
5:09:14PM EXISTING PYLON SIGN.
5:09:15PM SO WE ARE DEALING WITH VAST DISTANCES ON THE HIGHWAY, I 75
5:09:20PM WHICH HAS THE FASTEST TRAFFIC, AND BUSIEST TRAFFIC AND
5:09:23PM EXPANSIVE AND BROAD VISIBILITIES OF ANY ROADWAY IN THE
5:09:26PM ENTIRE CITY.
5:09:29PM SO WHEN WE WORKED WITH THE FLAG COMPANY, WE LOOKED AT WHAT
5:09:34PM WOULD BE THE PROPER PROPORTION TO TRY AND ADDRESS THE
5:09:36PM HARDSHIP THAT'S BEEN IMPACTED AT THE SITE.
5:09:39PM AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SIGN CODE, THERE IS A SIGN CODE
5:09:42PM THAT TALKS ABOUT PROVIDING REGULATION WHICH ALLOWS FOR
5:09:45PM ENCOURAGED CREATIVITY, EFFECTIVENESS AND FLEXIBILITY, IN THE
5:09:49PM DESIGN AND USE.
5:09:51PM SO THIS IS AN ELEMENTARY, AS WE THOUGHT, AND AS THE DOCTOR
5:09:55PM CONSIDERED WHAT HE COULD DO, TO RESTORE SOME AWARENESS OF
5:10:00PM PLACE FOR THIS PROPERTY.
5:10:04PM THE HARDSHIP IS NOT CREATED BY THE APPLICANT, DOESN'T INJURY
5:10:07PM THE WELFARE OR SAFETY, IS IN HARMONY WITH FLAGS PERMITTED,
5:10:12PM FLAGS HAVE BEEN PRESENT, AND IT WORK SUBSTANTIAL INJUSTICE
5:10:16PM IN OUR OPINION CONSIDERING THE DEVASTATION THAT'S OCCURRED.
5:10:19PM SO WITH THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE BEEN FACED WITH GREAT
5:10:21PM DIFFICULTIES AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE BEST WAY
5:10:23PM TO PROVIDE SOME MINIMUM VISIBILITY TO RESTORE THE PROPERTY
5:10:28PM WHERE IT WAS.
5:10:29PM AND I BELIEVE THE DOCTOR HAS SOME COMMENTS AS WELL.
5:10:32PM >> THANK YOU.
5:10:34PM I HOPE BEING LAST ON THE AGENDA DOESN'T REFLECT THE
5:10:37PM IMPORTANCE OF MY REQUEST.
5:10:38PM I HAVE BEEN HERE A WHILE.
5:10:39PM I ALMOST FORGOT WHY.
5:10:40PM BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION, AND I DON'T BLAME YOU FOR
5:10:43PM BEING A LITTLE CONFUSED.
5:10:44PM I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME MISCHARACTERIZATION OF THE FACTS
5:10:49PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF I CAN SET IT STRAIGHT.
5:10:51PM I BOUGHT THE BUILDING IN 2008, AND THE HIGHWAY WAS UNDER
5:10:56PM CONSTRUCTION, AND I CHECKED THE PLANS FOR THE HIGHWAY, AND
5:11:00PM THERE WAS NOT TO BE A 75-FOOT SOUND BALL.
5:11:04PM THAT PICTURE THAT WE SHOWED YOU DOES NOT REFLECT THE NEWEST
5:11:07PM HEIGHT THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR THE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS,
5:11:10PM MUCH HIGHER WHAT YOU SEE THERE.
5:11:12PM SO THAT SIGN IS TOTALLY INVISIBLE.
5:11:16PM BUT THE MARRIOTT, I CHECKED WITH THE D.O.T. AND THEY SAID,
5:11:20PM NO, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A 75-FOOT WALL, THIS IS THE
5:11:22PM HEIGHT.
5:11:22PM SO I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
5:11:23PM THE MARRIOTT ON THE CORNER OF CYPRESS AND DALE MABRY
5:11:26PM REQUESTED THE SOUND WALL AS INSTEAD OF 90 ROOMS THEY
5:11:32PM REQUESTED AS 90 HOMES, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND THEY WERE
5:11:35PM GRANTED THAT EXCEPTION, AND THEY RAISED THE WALL.
5:11:38PM SO MY SIGN WAS EVISCERATED.
5:11:41PM MY BUILDING YOU CAN'T SEE.
5:11:42PM SO I PUT UP A 75-FOOT FLAGPOLE.
5:11:46PM AND I FLY THE AMERICAN FLAG.
5:11:48PM AND I HAVE FLOWN THE AMERICAN FLAG SINCE 2008 TO THE DAY.
5:11:53PM SOMETIMES I HAVE TO TAKE THE FLAG DOWN AND REPAIR IT.
5:11:55PM IT GETS RIPPED.
5:11:57PM ANY WIND ABOVE 15 MILES PER HOUR IT RIPS FLAGS.
5:12:01PM I SOMETIMES DO PUT MY DR. NICK'S FLAG.
5:12:04PM THAT IS WHERE WE ARE UNTIL 2015 WHEN I CAME BEFORE CITY
5:12:08PM COUNCIL AND SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT A BIGGER SIGN,
5:12:13PM 100-FOOT SIGN.
5:12:15PM I WAS GRANTED THAT BY CITY COUNCIL, BUT WITH 75 FEET HEIGHT.
5:12:21PM I DECIDED I DIDN'T REALLY PARTICULARLY WANT TO DO IT SO I
5:12:24PM DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT AGREEMENT.
5:12:28PM NOW I AM BACK, AND I ORIGINALLY WAS GOING TO ASK FOR A SIGN
5:12:33PM AGAIN, BUT I'M A TAMPA NATIVE.
5:12:37PM I LOVE MY CITY JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE AND I AM NOT
5:12:39PM INTERESTED IN VISUALLY POLLUTING OUR CITY.
5:12:42PM AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT UP AN ELECTRIC SIGN.
5:12:44PM THE SIGN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2015, YES, SAID NO
5:12:49PM ADVERTISEMENT ON THAT SIGNED, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY FLAG
5:12:52PM THAT I CURRENTLY HAVE.
5:12:53PM SO NOW I AM CHANGING MY REQUEST FROM THAT SIGN TO JUST
5:12:57PM ANOTHER FLAGPOLE.
5:12:58PM SO I AM LOOKING FOR TWO FLAGPOLES.
5:13:01PM THE SIGN WILL COME DOWN THAT'S THERE, THE 45-FOOT SIGN
5:13:04PM THAT'S THERE WILL COME DOWN AND I WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE IT
5:13:07PM WITH A FLAGPOLE 25 FEET HIGHER THAN THE 75-FOOT FLAGPOLE
5:13:12PM THAT I CURRENTLY HAVE.
5:13:13PM THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.
5:13:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
5:13:19PM PUT THOSE PICTURES BACK UP OF THOSE FLAGPOLES.
5:13:22PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: THE PowerPoint, PLEASE.
5:13:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GO BACK.
5:13:40PM RIGHT THERE.
5:13:41PM IS THAT THE SIGN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THERE?
5:13:44PM >> YES, SIR.
5:13:44PM I WILL TAKE THAT DOWN.
5:13:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A FLAGPOLE RIGHT
5:13:48PM THERE.
5:13:48PM THAT SIGN IS 75 OR 45?
5:13:52PM >> THAT'S 45.
5:13:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THE OTHER COUNCIL TOLD YOU THAT YOU
5:13:55PM CAN GO 75, IS THAT RIGHT?
5:13:57PM >> YES, SIR.
5:13:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WHY ARE YOU ASKING FOR 75?
5:14:00PM IF THEY ALREADY APPROVED YOU FOR 75, WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR
5:14:03PM 100?
5:14:04PM BECAUSE IF YOU GO 75 --
5:14:06PM >> THAT WAS IN 2015.
5:14:08PM I DID NOT FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT ALLOWANCE.
5:14:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT.
5:14:11PM BUT YOU HAVE ALREADY BEEN GRANTED 75, CORRECT?
5:14:14PM >> FOR A SIGN WITH NO ADVERTISEMENT.
5:14:16PM I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THAT TO JUST A FLAG.
5:14:19PM AND NO SIGN.
5:14:20PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: THE SIGN WAS PERMITTED ADVERTISING.
5:14:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT.
5:14:25PM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT IT RIGHT.
5:14:30PM THAT WAS GRANTED FOR 75.
5:14:31PM BUT YOU ONLY GOT 45 FOR THAT.
5:14:34PM IS THAT CORRECT?
5:14:35PM THAT'S 45.
5:14:36PM BUT YOU GRANTED 75, CORRECT?
5:14:38PM >> YES, SIR.
5:14:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO YOU ARE ALREADY GRANTED 75.
5:14:42PM WHY DON'T YOU GO 735?
5:14:45PM >> WHY DON'T I WHAT?
5:14:48PM INCHES GO 75.
5:14:48PM >> BECAUSE I HAVE AN EXISTING 75-FOOT FLAG.
5:14:51PM I WOULD LIKE TO GET 100-FOOT BECAUSE IT'S NOT VERY VISIBLE.
5:14:55PM 25 MORE FEET MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN BY.
5:15:00PM WHY I DID NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SIGN AT THE TIME, IS
5:15:04PM THAT PART OF YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN?
5:15:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM TRYING TO GET -- WELL, IF YOU WERE
5:15:09PM GRANTED 45 FOR THIS PARTICULAR SIGN, WHETHER IT'S A FLAGPOLE
5:15:13PM OR SIGN, IF YOU WANT TO GO TO A FLAGPOLE YOU ARE STILL
5:15:16PM GRANTED 75.
5:15:18PM >> YES, SIR.
5:15:18PM AND I DIDN'T DO IT FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
5:15:20PM ONE OF THEM IS THE ELECTRONIC SIGN WAS $125,000 BACK THEN.
5:15:25PM AND NOW IT'S 185,000.
5:15:29PM BUT BESIDES THAT --
5:15:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING WHAT YOU WERE
5:15:32PM ALREADY GRANTED 75.
5:15:34PM SO IRREGARDLESS IF THEY WANT TO GRANT YOU 75, YOU CAN DO 75
5:15:39PM WHETHER IT'S A FLAGPOLE OR YOU BUY ADVERTISED SIGNS, YOU
5:15:43PM STILL HAVE 75 VERSUS 100.
5:15:45PM BUT YOU JUST WANT 100.
5:15:47PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: THAT PERMIT HAS LAPSED.
5:15:50PM THAT APPROVAL IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.
5:15:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME ASK STAFF.
5:15:58PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
5:16:02PM CODE SECTION -- AND I APOLOGIZE, IT'S 27-60 SUBSECTION E-7
5:16:12PM SAYS APPROVED ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION SHALL BE VALID
5:16:15PM FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR FROM THE APPROVAL DATE.
5:16:18PM AND THAT'S PER THE CODE.
5:16:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
5:16:23PM >> WAS THAT A DESIGN EXCEPTION?
5:16:26PM >> THAT CITY COUNCIL GUDES ASKED ME FOR, HOW LONG WAS IT PER
5:16:31PM THE CODE, AND SHALL BE VALID FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR FROM
5:16:34PM THE APPROVAL DATE.
5:16:35PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: WE MOVED FORWARD WITH DR. KAVOUKLIS WHAT
5:16:44PM HE THOUGHT WOULD BE BEST AND LIKE.
5:16:47PM HIS MIND CHANGED LOOKING AT SITUATIONAL ELEMENTS.
5:16:49PM LOOKING AT THE IMPACT OF THE SIGN, COST OF THE SIGN, HOW BIG
5:16:54PM THE SIGN WOULD BE AND THE SITE.
5:16:55PM HE CHOSE NOT TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION AND CHOSE TO GO IN THIS
5:16:58PM DIRECTION.
5:16:59PM NOW, OF COURSE, ALL WE ARE SAYING IS THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN
5:17:04PM CLEARLY TREMENDOUSLY DAMAGED.
5:17:06PM WHAT IS GOING TO BE BEST TO TRY TO RECLAIM SOME OF THAT IN A
5:17:11PM REASONABLE MANNER THAT IS NOT BLAZING ELECTRONIC BILLBOARD
5:17:16PM AT THE SITE?
5:17:17PM AND THAT'S A QUESTION OF SUBJECTIVE ELEMENTS AS WELL.
5:17:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:17:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN UNDERSTAND THE SIGNS.
5:17:29PM IF HE WANTED TO PUT 100-FOOT POLE WITH THE SIGN, DOESN'T
5:17:36PM HAVE TO BE ELECTRIC, JUST THE SIGN.
5:17:37PM BECAUSE THAT'S ADVERTISING.
5:17:39PM THAT MAKES SENSE.
5:17:40PM BUT THIS FLAGPOLE WOULD ONLY ALLOW THE AMERICAN FLAG, AND WE
5:17:43PM HAVE TESTIMONY GIVEN TO US BY NEIGHBORS THAT SAY THAT HE
5:17:47PM DOESN'T GENERALLY FLY AN AMERICAN FLAG.
5:17:50PM SO THEN THAT'S JUST MORE FOR US TO HAVE TO POLICE.
5:17:54PM BECAUSE HE'S NOT DOING -- I MEAN THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING IT
5:17:57PM ISN'T WHAT HE DOES.
5:17:59PM SO WE ARE JUST MAKING A BIGGER SPACE THAT HE WOULDN'T BE
5:18:03PM ABLE TO ADVERTISE FROM.
5:18:04PM SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS IS A HARDSHIP IF YOU ARE
5:18:09PM NOT ACTUALLY USING IT FOR ADVERTISEMENT.
5:18:13PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: PART OF THIS IS A SITUATIONAL ELEMENT HOW
5:18:16PM THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN DAMAGED.
5:18:18PM THAT'S THE HARDSHIP.
5:18:19PM THE QUESTION IS HOW WE ARE RESPONDING FROM IT.
5:18:22PM AND IT'S A SUBJECTIVE -- I'M SORRY, GO AHEAD.
5:18:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, I AM JUST SAYING IT'S VERY CLEAR, IF HE
5:18:27PM WANTED TO PUT THAT SIGN 100 FEET IN THE AIR?
5:18:30PM THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME.
5:18:32PM BUT ASKING FOR A FLAG THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AN
5:18:35PM ADVERTISEMENT, BUT YET IS ACTED AS AN ADVERTISEMENT --
5:18:42PM >> MAY I ASK WHY -- SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CODES, BUT I
5:18:48PM HAD CITY COME BY ONE TIME AND COMPLAIN ABOUT AT VARIOUS
5:18:52PM TIMES I HAVE HAD, AND IN GENERAL, I DO NOT FLY THE DR.
5:18:57PM NICK'S FLAG, IN GENERAL I FLY THE AMERICAN FLAG, AND IF I
5:19:00PM HAD TO GIVE YOU AN EXACT PERCENTAGE I COULDN'T, BUT IT'S AT
5:19:03PM LEAST 70, 75% OF THE TIME.
5:19:07PM SO BACK TO THE POINT.
5:19:08PM A CITY OFFICIAL CAME BY AND SAID, I, AT VARIOUS TIMES, HAD
5:19:12PM POLITICIANS ASK ME TO PUT UP A FLAG.
5:19:14PM I HAVE HAD THE LIGHTNING ASK ME TO PUT UP A FLAG.
5:19:17PM AND NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT THE LIGHTNING.
5:19:19PM NO ONE COMPLAINS ABOUT THE BUCS.
5:19:23PM WHY AM I NOT ALLOWED TO FLY MY FLAG?
5:19:26PM BUCS IS AN ADVERTISEMENT.
5:19:27PM I AM NOT A BILLIONAIRE CONGLOMERATION BUT I TRY TO HELP
5:19:32PM PEOPLE ONE TOOTH AT A TIME.
5:19:33PM AND SO I AM NOT QUITE SURE, WE ARE TALKING TWO THINGS AT THE
5:19:38PM SAME TIME.
5:19:38PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT 45-FOOT SIGN
5:19:41PM AND PUT -- I WOULD LIKE TO PUT 100-FOOT FLAGPOLE, THAT I
5:19:48PM WILL AGREE TO ONLY FLY THE AMERICAN FLAG.
5:19:51PM I WILL PUT THAT IN THE AGREEMENT.
5:19:53PM I WILL ONLY FLY THE AMERICAN FLAG OR THE FLAG OF FLORIDA ON
5:19:56PM THAT 100-FOOT FLAG.
5:19:59PM THAT'S ALL I AM ASKING.
5:20:01PM THE OTHER FLAG IS ALREADY THERE.
5:20:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
5:20:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
5:20:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: DR. NICK, YOU SAID THAT IT'S HIGHER THAN
5:20:12PM THE PICTURE.
5:20:13PM IS IT HIGHER THAN THIS PICTURE OR IS THIS THE ACTUAL?
5:20:16PM >> THE WALL IS HIGHER.
5:20:18PM THAT'S WHEN IT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE
5:20:20PM DON'T HAVE --
5:20:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT'S HIGHER THAN THAT.
5:20:23PM AND THEN MR. PRESSMAN, I'M SORRY, I'M TIRED.
5:20:30PM MR. PRESSMAN, COULD YOU TELL US WHY THE VARIANCE REVIEW
5:20:33PM BOARD SAID THERE WAS NO HARDSHIP, AND WHAT YOUR REBUTTAL TO
5:20:38PM THAT IS?
5:20:39PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: I HAVE NO ANSWER.
5:20:41PM ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK AT THE FIRST TWO PICTURES AND YOU
5:20:43PM CAN SEE THERE'S A TREMENDOUS HARDSHIP.
5:20:46PM AND A LOT OF VARIANCES COME THROUGH.
5:20:48PM THIS IS A VARIANCE THAT MEETS EVERY SINGLE CRITERIA OF A
5:20:51PM VARIANCE.
5:20:51PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: [OFF MICROPHONE]
5:20:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COME UP TO THE PODIUM.
5:20:59PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
5:21:02PM STAFF IS ON THE LINE.
5:21:04PM THEY CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION REGARDING THE DISCUSSION FROM
5:21:05PM THE BOARD.
5:21:07PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: I REALLY WANT TO HEAR --
5:21:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: I REALLY WANT TO HEAR FROM HIM.
5:21:12PM COULD YOU ANSWER ONE QUESTION?
5:21:14PM THERE'S ALL THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT AN AMERICAN FLAG VERSUS --
5:21:16PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CODE IS, BUT CONSIDERING THIS
5:21:19PM HARDSHIP, I WOULDN'T CARE IF YOU PUT A BUCS FLAG OR HIS OWN
5:21:24PM FLAG UP THERE, BECAUSE NORTHBOUND CAN SEE HIS BUILDING
5:21:26PM ANYMORE.
5:21:26PM SO IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN ALLOW HIM TO PUT SOMETHING
5:21:30PM BESIDES THE AMERICAN FLAG OR IF HE ASKED FOR A FLAG, THAT'S
5:21:35PM ALL THAT WE CAN GIVE HIM?
5:21:38PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, THAT
5:21:40PM QUESTION IS BEST ANSWERED BY STAFF.
5:21:42PM BUT THAT IS WHAT THE PETITIONERS, THE PROPERTY OWNER ASKED
5:21:46PM FOR, IS THE REQUEST THAT'S BEFORE YOU.
5:21:48PM BUT COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THE EXPLANATION ABOUT WHAT A FLAG
5:21:51PM IS, JAYNE NMADU CAN EXPLAIN WHAT THAT DISTINCTION IS BETWEEN
5:21:56PM A FLAG AND A SIGN.
5:21:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE A VERSION OF THE FLAG WHERE YOU
5:22:00PM CAN RUN DIFFERENT KINDS OF FLAGS BESIDES THE AMERICAN FLAG?
5:22:04PM THAT'S MY QUESTION.
5:22:05PM >> I HAVE STAFF TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
5:22:10PM >> I'M SORRY, SIR.
5:22:17PM I'M SORRY.
5:22:18PM I WOULD ASK THAT YOU REFER TO QUESTIONS RELATING TO THE CODE
5:22:20PM AND RELATED TO THE BOARDS, YOU HAVE DISCUSSED THAT WITH THE
5:22:23PM STAFF.
5:22:24PM YOU COULD CERTAINLY ASK THAT OF THE PETITIONER, BUT THE
5:22:27PM STAFF IS COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, AND THEY CERTAINLY
5:22:31PM HAVE A HISTORICAL REFERENCE AND A RECORD AS TO IT, IF YOU
5:22:35PM CONFIRM IT, YOU CAN HAVE THE PETITIONER CERTAINLY ELABORATE
5:22:39PM ON IT.
5:22:39PM BUT FOR THE BASIS OF CREATING THE RECORD, I WOULD PREFER
5:22:42PM THAT RELATIVE TO WHAT HAPPENED OR PICTURES EVEN, MAYBE STAFF
5:22:46PM HAS PICTURES OF WHAT IT LOOKING LOOKS LIKE TODAY RATHER THAN
5:22:49PM SOMETHING UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT MAY ASSIST COUNCIL.
5:22:51PM YOU DIRECT YOUR QUESTIONS.
5:22:52PM AND I KNOW IT'S SOMETIMES DIFFICULT BECAUSE NOT PRESENT IN
5:22:56PM THE ROOM AND THEY ARE PRESENT ONLINE BUT PLEASE REMEMBER
5:22:59PM THAT THE STAFF IS THERE AS EXPERTS TO BE ABLE TO TESTIFY AS
5:23:01PM TO FACTS AND EVIDENCE AND HELP YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, SO IF
5:23:05PM YOU DIRECT THE QUESTIONS PLEASE TO THE STAFF.
5:23:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY QUESTION ISN'T THE TYPE OF FLAG.
5:23:11PM IS THERE NOTHING IN THE CODE THAT WOULD ALLOW HIM TO HAVE
5:23:14PM MULTIPLE FLAGS?
5:23:16PM IS THE ONLY CHOICE THEY CAN ONLY PUT THE AMERICAN FLAG?
5:23:19PM >>JAYNE NMADU: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:23:23PM SO FOR FLAGS, IF HE WANTED TO HAVE A FLAG, IT HAS TO BE
5:23:27PM EITHER A NATIONAL FLAG, STATE FLAG, DISTRICT FLAG, IT HAS TO
5:23:30PM BE SOMETHING THAT IS FOR SOME KIND OF UNIT OF GOVERNMENT.
5:23:36PM ANYTHING ELSE IS CONSIDERED A SIGN, BECAUSE IT CONTAINS --
5:23:42PM THE BUCS, DR. NICK'S FLAG, OR ANY OTHER SUCH SIGN --
5:23:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE CODE THAT WILL
5:23:51PM ALLOW US TO APPROVE A SIGN THAT LOOKS LIKE A FLAG?
5:23:54PM >>JAYNE NMADU: NO.
5:23:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU CAN'T CALL IT A FLAG A SIGN IF IT'S A
5:24:02PM FLAG ON A FLAGPOLE, IT CAN'T BE A SIGN?
5:24:05PM THERE'S NO CHOICE?
5:24:07PM >>JAYNE NMADU: IT'S EITHER A FLAG OR SIGN.
5:24:09PM AND IF IT'S NOT ONE OF THE UNITS OF GOVERNMENT, THEN IT'S
5:24:12PM SIGH A SIGN.
5:24:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK I DON'T WANT TO READ INTO WHAT
5:24:18PM SHE'S SAYING BUS IF WE APPROVE A FLAG AND WE PUT SOMETHING
5:24:20PM ELSE UP THERE, THEN THE CODE VIOLATION IS GOING TO CAUSE
5:24:24PM MORE PROBLEMS FOR THE CITY.
5:24:25PM SO I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING.
5:24:28PM >> SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR WHOEVER IS THE EXPERT.
5:24:30PM I HAVE GOTTEN PRELIMINARY LEGAL OPINIONS AND THE LEGAL
5:24:33PM OPINION IS I AM ALLOWED TO FLY ANOTHER FLAG, A DR. NICK'S
5:24:36PM FLAG.
5:24:37PM I HAVE A QUESTION, HOW DO THE BUCS FLY THEIR FLAGS?
5:24:40PM HOW DO THE LIGHTNING FLY THEIR FLAGS?
5:24:43PM HOW DOES THE REBEL FLAG GET FLOWN AND I CAN'T FLY A DR.
5:24:47PM NICK'S FLAG?
5:24:48PM CAN YOU ANSWER THAT?
5:24:49PM I MEAN, SOMEBODY IS NOT INTERPRETING --
5:24:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN STAFF ANSWER THAT QUESTION?
5:24:53PM >>JAYNE NMADU: I AM NOT SURE WHAT FLAGS HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
5:24:58PM I CAN ONLY SPEAK TO --
5:25:01PM >> A BUCS FLAG.
5:25:02PM >>JAYNE NMADU: HIS FLAG IS SPECIFICALLY, THE DR. NICK'S
5:25:08PM FLAG IS SPECIFICALLY FOR DRAWING ATTENTION TO HIS BUSINESS.
5:25:12PM I ALREADY WENT OVER WHAT HE'S ALLOWED TO HAVE BY CODE.
5:25:17PM HE HAS FRONTAGE A LODGE STATE STREET.
5:25:19PM HE CAN HAVE -- HE ALREADY HAS A GROUND SIGN.
5:25:22PM HE CAN HAVE A SIGN ALONG STATE STREET.
5:25:26PM IF IT'S FOR HIS BUSINESS, HE HAS THAT STREET FRONTAGE.
5:25:29PM HE'S ABLE TO DO THAT.
5:25:33PM WHAT HE IS PROPOSING, AND I WOULD NOT PRESUME TO KNOW THE
5:25:37PM MIND OF THE VRB AND WHY THEY RULED THE WAY THEY DID EVEN
5:25:42PM THOUGH IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE, BUT WHAT HE'S PROPOSING IS
5:25:45PM LARGER THAN A BILLBOARD.
5:25:47PM THE TYPICAL BILLBOARD IS 14 BY 48.
5:25:49PM HE'S PROCEEDING 20 BY 48 FLAG.
5:25:52PM THAT IS A HUGE FLAG.
5:25:56PM AND IT'S LARGER THAN WHAT YOU TYPICALLY WOULD BE APPROVING.
5:26:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:26:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TODAY HAS BEEN A VERY INTELLECTUAL DAY.
5:26:11PM I HAVE LEARNED A LOT.
5:26:11PM >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I REMEMBER YOU FROM LAST --
5:26:16PM >> EXCUSE ME.
5:26:18PM WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED.
5:26:19PM >> I'M SORRY.
5:26:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE LEARNED A LOT.
5:26:23PM THERE'S A FLAG FOR THE BUCS ON MLK, ALSO MacDILL.
5:26:29PM IT'S SEEN AS YOU DRIVE BY IT AT GROUND LEVEL.
5:26:32PM IT'S A BIG FLAG.
5:26:34PM WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR IS A 50-FOOT FLAG TO A 750-FOOT
5:26:38PM FLAG. IS THAT WHAT I HEARD?
5:26:40PM >> THE SIZE OF THE FLAG WOULD BE COMMENCE RATTLE WITH THE
5:26:43PM SIZE OF THE POLE.
5:26:45PM IT'S 20 BY 30, 25 BY 30.
5:26:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON FLAGS BUT THE SIZE
5:26:53PM OF THIS ROOM UP TO ABOUT THE FIRST WINDOW IS 30 FEET, IF NOT
5:26:57PM 25.
5:26:57PM >> THE FLAG THAT I HAVE UP THAT DR. NICK'S FLAG THAT YOU SAW
5:27:01PM A PICTURE OF IS 25 BY 35.
5:27:07PM IT'S THE SAME SIZE AS THAT.
5:27:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN ADVERTISE THAT
5:27:12PM FLAG IN THE WIND, GOING TO PICK IT UP.
5:27:17PM >> IT DOES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
5:27:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A FLAG OF ANY SIZE, I WOULD IMAGINE IT
5:27:23PM TAKES A 25 OR 30 MILE-AN-HOUR WIND TO CARRY THAT FLAG.
5:27:26PM YOU HAVE TO UPLIFT IT AND HOLD IT.
5:27:29PM BUT I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON FLAGS.
5:27:32PM I AM NOTE A CALCULATING GUY ON ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
5:27:34PM SO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.
5:27:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
5:27:43PM >> FOR ME?
5:27:47PM I THOUGHT YOU MEANT FOR ME.
5:27:48PM I'M SORRY.
5:27:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PETITIONER, DOES THIS END YOUR
5:27:55PM PRESENTATION?
5:27:58PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: IT DOES AND WE WOULD LIKE A CHANCE TO
5:28:01PM REBUT IF THERE'S OTHER PRESENTATION.
5:28:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:28:06PM IS THERE ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO MAKE ANY
5:28:09PM PUBLIC COMMENTS?
5:28:17PM >> MY NAME IS THEODORE FLOYD, 4006 LEMON STREET, IN THIS
5:28:24PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:28:24PM I GUESS THE POINT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS THAT I AM ASKING THE
5:28:30PM BOARD TO SUPPORT WHAT THE VARIANCE BOARD STATED.
5:28:33PM THIS IS NOT A HARDSHIP CASE. IF THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT
5:28:36PM THE WAY THEY WOULDN'T HAVE VOTED UNANIMOUS NAN UNANIMOUSLY
5:28:39PM TO DENY IT.
5:28:40PM ALL RIGHT.
5:28:40PM HE'S HOPING THAT YOU ALL WILL APPROVE A FLAG 100 FEET IN THE
5:28:46PM AIR, YARDS AWAY FROM THE INTERSTATE.
5:28:50PM AND A FLAG THAT LARGE, IF ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN OR ANYTHING
5:28:55PM GOES WRONG, THAT FLAG COULD LAND ON THE INTERSTATE ON TOP OF
5:29:00PM CARS.
5:29:02PM THAT FLAGPOLE COULD BEND.
5:29:03PM IT IS A SAFETY ISSUE.
5:29:05PM AND THAT'S WHY WE DON'T WANT IT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:29:08PM I NOTICED THAT MR. PRESSMAN KIND OF SLID IN A LITTLE BIT
5:29:12PM ABOUT POLITICAL, BECAUSE WHILE HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE BOLTS,
5:29:20PM GASPARILLA, THE AMERICAN FLAG, THAT FLAG IS ALSO HA BEEN
5:29:23PM USED FOR POLITICAL REASONS.
5:29:25PM SO IT'S NOT JUST IMPLYING THE AMERICAN FLAG.
5:29:29PM I HAVE A PICTURE THAT I EMAILED TO FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS OF
5:29:32PM THAT FLAG, AND YOU CAN SEE IT AT THE 75-FOOT IN FRONT OF THE
5:29:39PM INTERSTATE AND I EMAILED THAT TO FOUR OF YOU AND I ALSO HAVE
5:29:43PM A PHOTO OF IT.
5:29:44PM SO IT'S NOT THAT YOU CAN'T SEE THE DR. NICK'S FLAG ALREADY
5:29:47PM USING THE 75-FOOT FLAG OR POLE.
5:29:50PM IF HE MOVES IT CLOSER TO THE INTERSTATE AND USES THE
5:29:54PM 735-FOOT EVEN MORE, YOU CAN STILL SEE IT.
5:29:56PM HE DOESN'T NEED A 100-FOOT POLE TO ADVERTISE HIS BUSINESS.
5:30:01PM I UNDERSTAND THIS IS AT THE END OF A DEAD-END STREET BUT
5:30:06PM THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
5:30:09PM 275 DIDN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
5:30:11PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULDN'T SUFFER.
5:30:12PM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I INQUIRE?
5:30:16PM DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT WITH YOU THAT YOU ARE TALKING
5:30:19PM ABOUT?
5:30:20PM >> YES.
5:30:21PM >> WOULD YOU PUT THAT UP ON THE ELMO FOR THE RECORD AND MR.
5:30:25PM PRESSMAN AND HIS CLIENT CAN SEE THAT AS WELL?
5:30:31PM THERE WE GO.
5:30:32PM OKAY.
5:30:33PM COULD YOU MOVE IT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT SO THE FULL PICTURE
5:30:36PM IS IN THERE?
5:30:38PM THERE WE GO.
5:30:41PM AND SIR, WHEN WAS THIS PICTURE TAKEN?
5:30:44PM ABOUT WHEN?
5:30:45PM >> IT WAS TAKEN YESTERDAY.
5:30:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
5:30:50PM YOU TOOK THE PICTURE YESTERDAY, SIR?
5:30:52PM >> YES.
5:30:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S THE 75 --
5:30:56PM >> THAT'S A 75-FOOT POLE IN FRONT OF HIS BUILDING AND AGAIN
5:30:59PM HE WANTS 100 MOVED CLOSER TO THE INTERSTATE, AND HE TOOK A
5:31:03PM 75 AND MOVED IT CLOSER TO THE INTERSTATE, HE WOULD SEE IT
5:31:07PM EVEN MORE.
5:31:08PM YOU KNOW. YOU CAN SEE IT WHEN YOU GET ON THE INTERNET FROM
5:31:11PM WESTSHORE PLAZA, YOU CAN SEE THAT FLAG.
5:31:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
5:31:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
5:31:22PM >> THANK YOU ALL.
5:31:23PM >> I DON'T KNOW, HOW LONG AGO DID YOU SEND THE E-MAILS?
5:31:28PM >> I DID THE E-MAIL TUESDAY.
5:31:32PM >> TUESDAY. DID YOU WANT THAT AS PART OF THE RECORD?
5:31:34PM I ASSUME YOUR LETTER WOULD BE. BUT I HAVEN'T CHECKED.
5:31:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE PHOTO WAS IN THE LETTER.
5:31:43PM >> AND WOULD YOU SAY THAT ENDED UP IN THE QUASI BOX?
5:31:47PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COVERED IN TERMS OF THAT.
5:31:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE THIS PHOTO TO
5:31:54PM US AS EVIDENCE?
5:31:54PM >> SURE.
5:31:56PM >> THANK YOU.
5:31:57PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:32:00PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
5:32:01PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:32:02PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:32:03PM THANK YOU.
5:32:03PM >> THANK YOU.
5:32:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
5:32:10PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
5:32:17PM >>THE CLERK: [OFF MICROPHONE]
5:32:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO BEE DO HAVE ONE OR WE DON'T HAVE?
5:32:25PM OKAY.
5:32:25PM MR. PRESSMAN, I BELIEVE YOUR CLIENT WANTS TO MAKE A
5:32:28PM STATEMENT.
5:32:29PM AND I WILL GIVE IT TIME FOR REBUTTAL SINCE WE HAD ONE
5:32:32PM PERSON.
5:32:32PM >> FOR THE RECORD, YES, THERE HAVE BEEN POLITICAL FLAGS OF
5:32:36PM BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES, FROM BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES.
5:32:41PM AND FOR THE RECORD, I OWN A HOME ON THAT VERY STREET.
5:32:44PM I AM NOT INTERESTED IN CLUTTERING MY STREET.
5:32:48PM AND LASTLY, AS FAR AS A SAFETY ISSUE, I AM JUST PROPOSING
5:32:51PM PUTTING IT WHERE THE EXISTING SIGN WAS.
5:32:54PM BUT I HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM TO MOVE IT AWAY FROM THE
5:32:57PM INTERSTATE, IF THAT IS DEEMED TO BE AN UNSAFE POSITION.
5:33:00PM I AM NOT CERTAIN THAT IT IS.
5:33:03PM THAT'S ALL THAT I WANTED TO SAY.
5:33:04PM THANK YOU.
5:33:05PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: THE APPROVAL BEFORE YOU TODAY IN THE CODE
5:33:12PM ARE FOR AMERICAN FLAG, STATE OF FLORIDA FLAG, OR I BELIEVE
5:33:17PM IT READS OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS IS WHAT I MEANT WHEN I
5:33:20PM READ REVIEWED THE CODE A FEW DAYS AGO.
5:33:23PM IT'S UNDENIABLE THAT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN TREMENDOUSLY
5:33:25PM DAMAGED.
5:33:26PM WE CAME TO COUNCIL QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, WAS APPROVED
5:33:30PM FOR A SIGN THAT QUITE FRANKLY WAS GOING TO BE INEFFECTIVE,
5:33:34PM CONSIDERING THE BROAD SCALE AND VAST NATURE OF THE SITE.
5:33:38PM THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DR. NICKS FELT WOULD BE BEST FOR HIS
5:33:44PM DESIRES AND FOR THE PROPERTY TO MAKE UP FOR IT.
5:33:48PM WE ARE NOT GOING TO COME HERE AND ASK FOR A SIGN 150 FEET
5:33:51PM UP, 200 FEET WIDE, TO ENJOY THE SAME KIND OF VISIBILITY THAT
5:33:55PM ALMOST EVERY BUSINESS IN TAMPA HAS BEING RIGHT ON A STREET,
5:33:59PM SIGN RIGHT ON THE STREET, THERE'S NO DOUBT IN THAT RESPECT.
5:34:03PM SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD TODAY WITH WHAT WE ARE HOPING WILL
5:34:07PM IMPROVE AWARENESS OF THE SITE AND THE WAY THAT DR. NICK
5:34:12PM CHOOSES TO PRESENT IT TO YOU ON THE BASIS OF THE FLAG.
5:34:17PM IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.
5:34:18PM WE APPRECIATE YOUR ATTENTION.
5:34:19PM THANK YOU.
5:34:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
5:34:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
5:34:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
5:34:24PM MANISCALCO.
5:34:24PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:34:27PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:34:28PM THANK YOU.
5:34:29PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:34:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL MAKE A MOTION.
5:34:35PM I WILL EXPLAIN THE MOTION AND IT'S UP TO COUNCIL TO DECIDE.
5:34:37PM I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE VRB DECISION AND HEREBY APPROVE THE
5:34:41PM APPLICATION NUMBER VRB 22-98 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4010
5:34:45PM WEST STATE STREET BASED UPON THE PETITIONER PRESENTING
5:34:48PM COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD AND AT THIS
5:34:50PM PUBLIC HEARING OF AN UNNECESSARY HARDSHIP OR PRACTICAL
5:34:54PM DIFFICULTY WHEN CONSIDERING THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA SET FORTH
5:34:58PM IN SECTION 27-80 OF THE CITY CODE, SPECIFICALLY THAT WHEN
5:35:04PM THE GENTLEMAN PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN THE BEFORE PHOTOS,
5:35:08PM THE INTERSTATE HAD A CERTAIN FOOTPRINT, AND SINCE THEN IT'S
5:35:11PM BEEN WIDENED, AND SINCE THEN THERE HAVE BEEN SOUND WALLS
5:35:14PM BUILT.
5:35:16PM BUT IN LOOKING AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT THE GENTLEMAN SHOWED
5:35:21PM OF HOW THE SIGN LOOKED AND THE PHOTO THAT WAS EXISTING,
5:35:27PM THERE'S A GAP THERE.
5:35:29PM I THINK THE PHOTO WAS OVER THERE IN THE E-MAIL.
5:35:32PM BUT IT'S NOT THAT THE ROADWAY GOES RIGHT UP TO THE WALL.
5:35:34PM THERE'S A SECTION THERE, A FENCE, MAYBE LIKE A SERVICE AREA,
5:35:39PM SO EVEN IF THE FLAGPOLE IS CLOSE TO THE INTERSTATE, NO, IT'S
5:35:44PM THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT THE GENTLEMAN PUT ON THE OVERHEAD THAT
5:35:48PM SHOWED -- YES, THIS ONE HERE.
5:35:50PM SO THERE'S A WIDE GAP HERE.
5:35:56PM IT STOPS HERE.
5:35:59PM HEART.
5:35:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THAT PART OF YOUR MOTION?
5:36:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS PART OF MY MOTION AND I WILL
5:36:03PM EXPLAIN WHY.
5:36:04PM IF IT WENT UP TO THE SOUND WALL AND I WOULD SAY IT'S VERY
5:36:08PM DANGEROUS WITH A FLAG THAT COULD BE BLOWN INTO TRAFFIC OR
5:36:10PM WHATEVER, BUT THERE'S A GAP BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH OF THE
5:36:13PM INTERSTATE, AND THERE'S AGAINST THAT FENCED IN AREA WHERE
5:36:16PM TRAFFIC IS NOT GOING, SO THERE'S A BUFFER BETWEEN THE CARS,
5:36:20PM THE WALL, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE FLAG.
5:36:23PM SO I DON'T SEE IT AS A SAFETY ISSUE.
5:36:26PM ALSO YOU HAVE AN ILLUMINATED BILLBOARD NOT FAR FROM IT WHICH
5:36:31PM IS MUCH LARGER.
5:36:32PM THIS ISN'T LIKE WE ARE CREATING SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T
5:36:35PM EXIST.
5:36:35PM IT'S ANOTHER BILLBOARD NEARBY THAT'S MUCH BIGGER, IT'S NOT
5:36:39PM AN EYESORE, IT'S NOT A SAFETY ISSUE.
5:36:41PM SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT, THE PETITIONER HAS
5:36:47PM PROVEN SPECIFICALLY -- THEY DIDN'T KNOW HOW WIDE THE
5:36:52PM INTERSTATE WAS GOING TO BE WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
5:36:54PM AND NOW YOU ARE SEE THE WIDTH OF THE INTERSTATE AND THE
5:36:57PM SOUND WALL.
5:36:57PM I SEE THE BURDEN, AND THEREFORE THAT IS MY MOTION TO
5:37:00PM OVERTURN.
5:37:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
5:37:03PM MANISCALCO.
5:37:03PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
5:37:05PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
5:37:07PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:37:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM NOT GOING TO AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
5:37:10PM HE ALREADY GOT A 75-FOOT FLAGPOLE.
5:37:13PM IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE INTERSTATE
5:37:15PM ALREADY.
5:37:16PM SO ADDING A SECOND FLAGPOLE WITH A SECOND FLAG, I MEAN, YOU
5:37:20PM CAN ALREADY SEE IT.
5:37:21PM HE'S ALREADY DONE WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO.
5:37:24PM I COULD SEE WHEN FIRST LEADING THIS IT'S 45 TO 100.
5:37:28PM SURE, I COULD SEE A DIFFERENCE.
5:37:30PM BP ABOUT HE ALREADY HAS A 75-FOOT FLAGPOLE AND IT'S CLEAR
5:37:34PM THAT YOU CAN SEE IT.
5:37:35PM I DON'T SEE A NEED FOR FURTHER ADDITION OF THAT.
5:37:40PM AND AS FAR AS COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, I JUST
5:37:44PM DON'T SEE HOW, AGAIN LOOKING AT IT FROM A 75-FOOT
5:37:51PM PERSPECTIVE, HOW THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL HARDSHIPS HERE.
5:37:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
5:37:59PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
5:38:01PM I'M SORRY.
5:38:02PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:38:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS JUST A VERY DIFFICULT ONE.
5:38:05PM YOU HAVE GOT SO MANY THINGS COMING ON.
5:38:09PM WHAT MR. MANISCALCO SAID IT'S NOT THAT YOU HAVE AN AREA, I
5:38:14PM DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU CALL IT, BUT IT'S NOT WHERE THE CARS
5:38:17PM DRIVE THROUGH.
5:38:17PM IT'S CLOSE TO IT BUT NOT ON IT.
5:38:20PM I REMEMBER THIS IN 2015, I THINK I WAS ONE OF THE COUNCIL
5:38:24PM MEMBERS TO HEAR THAT WHEN THIS HAPPENED.
5:38:27PM SO I DON'T REMEMBER HOW THE VOTE WENT.
5:38:32PM I KNOW IT PASSED.
5:38:33PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE NO SIGNS TO THE EXPRESSWAY BUT WE
5:38:38PM ALSO MADE DEALS WITH THE SIGN COMPANIES IF YOU TODAY SO MANY
5:38:41PM INSIDE THE CITY, PUT THEM ON THE EXPRESSWAY, ONE FOR FOUR,
5:38:45PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT WAS 15, 20 YEARS AGO.
5:38:48PM SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE JUST TALKED BETWEEN THE
5:38:51PM WALL AND A HARD PLACE HERE BECAUSE AS COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO
5:38:59PM SAID, THE HEIGHT OF THE EXPRESSWAY BEING LIFTED UP.
5:39:01PM SO LET'S JUST TAKE A VOTE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
5:39:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
5:39:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS ONE OF THOSE HOW DO YOU BALANCE
5:39:12PM THE SCALE ON THIS ONE?
5:39:14PM LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PHOTOS, THERE IS A HARDSHIP WITH THE
5:39:17PM ONE SIGN.
5:39:18PM YOU SEE THAT.
5:39:20PM I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR TWO FLAGPOLES, YOU KNOW.
5:39:24PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT RATIONALE.
5:39:27PM BUT I CAN SEE THE ONE SIGN THAT IS A HARDSHIP THAT HE'S
5:39:30PM ASKING FOR.
5:39:31PM THAT'S WHY I SAID, IT'S KIND OF DOUBLE EDGED SWORD, MR.
5:39:39PM MANISCALCO, AND COUNCIL, KIND OF LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A
5:39:43PM FLIP OF THE COYOTE VOTE HERE.
5:39:44PM BUT BOTH HAVE VALID POINTS.
5:39:49PM TWO VOLUME I HAD POINTS HERE.
5:39:52PM MR. MIRANDA SAID, THERE ARE TWO VALID POINTS.
5:39:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF THE OTHER POLE IS GOING TO STAY UP?
5:39:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. MIRANDA, DID YOU WANT TO REOPEN?
5:40:02PM MOTION TO REOPEN, PLEASE.
5:40:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF THERE'S ONLY ONE POLE, NOT TWO,
5:40:06PM RIGHT?
5:40:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
5:40:10PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:40:11PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:40:13PM MR. PRESSMAN, I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS A QUESTION
5:40:16PM FOR YOU.
5:40:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS IT GOING TO BE ONE POLE INSTEAD OF
5:40:19PM TWO?
5:40:22PM PROSECUTE HE IS PRESS THE EXISTING POLE SIGN COMES DOWN AND
5:40:25PM THERE WILL BE PROPOSED TWO FLAG POLES.
5:40:28PM I SHOWED YOU THE EXISTING FREE-STANDING SIGN.
5:40:31PM THAT'S TO BE REMOVED.
5:40:32PM WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING ARE TWO SEPARATE FLAGPOLES.
5:40:37PM ISSUES WITH TWO FLAGS?
5:40:39PM >>TODD PRESSMAN: YES, SIR.
5:40:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
5:40:46PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
5:40:48PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:40:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MADE THE MOTION AND VIERA SECONDED
5:40:53PM IT.
5:40:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMAN
5:40:56PM MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
5:40:58PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
5:40:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE'S NO SECOND READING, JUST ONE
5:41:04PM READING.
5:41:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
5:41:08PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
5:41:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
5:41:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
5:41:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
5:41:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
5:41:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
5:41:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
5:41:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
5:41:25PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, HURTAK AND GUDES
5:41:29PM VOTING NO.
5:41:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
5:41:36PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:41:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE.
5:41:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NOTHING.
5:41:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I HAVE SEVERAL.
5:41:45PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF COME TO COUNCIL
5:41:47PM TO REPORT ON THE TREE FUND, HOW MUCH MONEY IS IN THE FUND,
5:41:52PM THE EXPENDITURES FOR 2022, AND SO FAR IN 2023, HOW MANY
5:41:56PM TREES ARE PLANTED PER QUARTER AND PER YEAR, AND IS THE
5:41:59PM CITY'S TREE GIVEAWAY PART OF THIS TREE FUND?
5:42:03PM AND I HAVE ALREADY TALKED TO STAFF, AND THEY ARE WILLING TO
5:42:05PM COME BACK ON MARCH 16th.
5:42:08PM >> SECOND.
5:42:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:42:11PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
5:42:12PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:42:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY SECOND IS -- AND I ALREADY DID THIS, THE
5:42:19PM QUESTIONS FOR THE APPRENTICESHIP, SO NEVER MIND.
5:42:22PM ALREADY DONE.
5:42:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYTHING ELSE?
5:42:34PM >> WE ALREADY DID IT.
5:42:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TO WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER?
5:42:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:43:00PM [OFF MICROPHONE]
5:43:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
5:43:07PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:43:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, AND THE
5:43:15PM MOTION IS A REQUEST THAT CITY STAFF PARTNER WITH
5:43:21PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY
5:43:23PM APPRAISER'S OFFICE, AND ANY OTHER EXTERNAL PARTNERS TO
5:43:26PM IDENTIFY WHERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOOD DESERTS EXIST.
5:43:31PM FURTHERMORE, I MOTION FOR THE CITY STAFF TO WORK WITH THE
5:43:36PM SAID PARTNERS TO IDENTIFY DERELICT CITY AND COUNTY OWNED
5:43:41PM PROPERTIES WITHIN THE IDENTIFIED FOOD DESERTS AND ASK FOR
5:43:45PM CITY STAFF TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL WITH PROPOSALS TO
5:43:48PM ACTIVATE THESE PARCELS OR PROPERTIES IN WAYS THAT ACTIVELY
5:43:54PM COMBAT FOOD INSECURITIES SUCH AS URBAN FARMS, GARDENS, FOOD
5:44:00PM PANTRIES, ET CETERA.
5:44:02PM AND I WOULD LIKE FOR THAT TO COME BACK, I WANT TO SAY MARCH
5:44:06PM 2nd, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE MORE COMPLICATED, MARCH
5:44:10PM 16th, AND WE JUST MADE A MOTION THERE, BUT THERE ARE A
5:44:13PM HANDFUL OF STAFF REPORTS, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S SUPER
5:44:16PM OVERLOADED.
5:44:17PM SO FOR MARCH 16th.
5:44:19PM I HAVE A COPY OF THE MOTION FOR CLARITY.
5:44:21PM AND THAT IS IT.
5:44:22PM >> SECOND.
5:44:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED
5:44:28PM BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
5:44:29PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:44:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THEN, I DON'T HAVE THIS WRITTEN,
5:44:34PM BUT I SPOKE TO A GENTLEMAN IN MY DISTRICT, AND HE HAS
5:44:39PM COMPLAINED TO ME FOR SEVERAL YEARS REGARDING ILLEGAL
5:44:42PM CONSTRUCTION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, SPECIFICALLY IN WEST
5:44:44PM TAMPA, BUT NOT ONLY THAT, PEOPLE THAT PAVE DRIVEWAYS, AND
5:44:49PM WHEN I SAY PAVED DRIVEWAYS WITHOUT PERMITS, THEY ARE TAKING
5:44:55PM THE WHOLE DRIVEWAY AND PUTTING PAVERS AND ALL THIS STUFF.
5:44:58PM THEY ARE DOING IT WITHOUT PERMITS.
5:45:00PM MY QUESTION IS, AND THE MOTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS,
5:45:05PM IF STAFF WOULD COME BACK AND LET US KNOW WHAT THE CITY CAN
5:45:07PM DO TO ENFORCE THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE,
5:45:10PM THAT ARE WORKING WITHOUT PERMITS.
5:45:12PM DO THEY JUST GET A STOP ORDER AND A WARNING, OR DO WE HAVE
5:45:15PM THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE -- FORCING THEM TO TAKE DOWN WHATEVER
5:45:20PM THEY BUILT ILLEGALLY?
5:45:21PM WE DO HAVE THIS?
5:45:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, YES.
5:45:23PM IT'S HAPPENED IN SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
5:45:26PM IT WAS A BIG KERFUFFLE MANY YEARS AGO BECAUSE THEY MADE
5:45:31PM PEOPLE TAKE THEIR DRIVEWAYS OUT.
5:45:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HEARD THAT, WE CAN'T ENFORCE IT AND
5:45:37PM THE DRIVEWAYS STAYED PAVED OR THEY ARE BUILT ON A SUNDAY
5:45:41PM MORNINGS.
5:45:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
5:45:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BOTH SIDES.
5:45:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I REMEMBER THAT, BUT THIS IS HAPPENING
5:45:53PM NOW.
5:45:54PM YOU GO DOWN TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD, YOU GO THROUGH -- I CAN
5:45:57PM NAME MANY, MANY STREETS.
5:45:59PM BUT AS LONG AS IT'S ENFORCEABLE, AND WE CAN MAKE THEM DO A
5:46:03PM STOP ORDER AND MAKE THEM TAKE IT APART, THEN I WILL WITHDRAW
5:46:06PM THE MOTION.
5:46:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD KEEP THE MOTION BECAUSE MIGHT AS
5:46:12PM WELL TALK ABOUT IT.
5:46:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, I WILL DO THAT, AND MAKE A
5:46:15PM MOTION THAT STAFF COME BACK, LET'S SAY APRIL 6, WHICH IS A
5:46:20PM REGULAR SESSION UNDER STAFF REPORTS, TO LET US KNOW HOW WE
5:46:23PM ENFORCE THOSE IN VIOLATIONS OF BUILDING NOT JUST ILLEGAL
5:46:28PM STRUCTURES, YOU KNOW, TAKING A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME AND
5:46:30PM MAKINGS IT A MULTIFAMILY DWELLING, OBVIOUSLY WITHOUT
5:46:33PM PERMITS, FOR EXAMPLE, DRIVEWAYS, WHERE THEY ARE PAVING OVER
5:46:38PM EVERYTHING, OR PUTTING PAVERS AND JUST CREATING BASICALLY A
5:46:41PM PARKING LOT UP FRONT, HOW DO WE ENFORCE THAT?
5:46:44PM THAT'S APRIL 6th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
5:46:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
5:46:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:46:51PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:46:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:46:55PM THANK YOU.
5:46:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
5:46:57PM THANK YOU.
5:46:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY REALLY FAST.
5:47:00PM THERE'S A GENTLEMAN PATRICK McKEON RETIRING AS A BUS
5:47:04PM DRIVER FOR HART.
5:47:05PM I WAS GOING TO GIVE HIM A COMMENDATION OPEN FEBRUARY
5:47:07PM 24th OUTSIDE OF COUNCIL.
5:47:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED
5:47:12PM BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:47:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: I PRESENTED A COMMENDATION TO ST. JOE'S
5:47:16PM EFFORTS ROMAN CATHOLIC SCHOOL FOR 125ERS YEARS.
5:47:20PM I WOULD LIKE TO DO A MOTION FOR THAT.
5:47:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:47:24PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:47:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND THEN JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP
5:47:28PM ABREAST OF THAT VETERANS COMMITTEE, I WANTED THAT TO COME
5:47:31PM BACK TO US, GET INTO IT JUST A LOT OF GOOD THINGS, THAT ALL
5:47:36PM OF US HAVE GOOD IDEAS ON WHO SHOULD BE THERE, ET CETERA.
5:47:39PM SO I WOULD LIKE THAT TO COME BACK TO US, LET'S SAY, GOSH
5:47:43PM ALMIGHTY, THE FIRST WEEK IN APRIL.
5:47:46PM >> APRIL 6th.
5:47:49PM SECOND.
5:47:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
5:47:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:47:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
5:47:54PM NOTHING ELSE.
5:47:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOTHING.
5:47:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:47:58PM MAJOR MIKE STOUT, WHO HAS BEEN WITH THE TAMPA POLICE
5:48:03PM DEPARTMENT, JUST ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT.
5:48:05PM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT HIM A COMMENDATION.
5:48:08PM WE ARE GETTING A LITTLE TITHE ON TIME AND COMMENDATIONS, AND
5:48:12PM I DO NOT WANT TO GET IT IN WITH THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE
5:48:17PM MONTH AND I DO HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND.
5:48:25PM THE 16th OF MARCH?
5:48:28PM HE IS A LEGACY.
5:48:37PM HIS DAD WAS ALSO A POLICE OFFICER.
5:48:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE CHAIRMAN.
5:48:41PM IS THERE A SECOND?
5:48:43PM >>THE CLERK:
5:48:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A HE QUESTION.
5:48:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE DOESN'T WANT TO THE CONFLICT WITH
5:48:52PM THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
5:48:54PM >> JUST A REMINDER, COUNCIL THAT YOU DO HAVE A COMMENDATION
5:48:57PM ALREADY SET FOR 9 A.M. THAT DAY.
5:48:59PM COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, CERTAINLY.
5:49:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AMICUS BRIEF WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE
5:49:03PM CHAIRMAN.
5:49:03PM IS THERE A SECOND? COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH THE SECOND.
5:49:06PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:49:08PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
5:49:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S IT FOR ME.
5:49:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAD DISCUSSED CHANGING AND TAKING OUT THE
5:49:17PM COMMENDATION DAY AND PUTTING COMMENDATIONS BACK.
5:49:20PM DID WE EVER ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING CHANGING STAFF REPORTS?
5:49:24PM DID WE ACTUALLY --
5:49:29PM >> THAT, YES, I MEAN --
5:49:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AS LONG AS IT'S COMING BACK.
5:49:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
5:49:35PM >> SECOND.
5:49:39PM >> ALL IN FAVOR?
5:49:44PM [MEETING ADJOURNED]
5:49:48PM
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