TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 26, 2023
9:00 A.M. WORKSHOP
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09:04:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JANUARY 26, 2023.
09:04:13AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:04:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:04:17AM I HAVE TWO INTRODUCTIONS TO MAKE.
09:04:19AM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME OUR FRIEND AND A FRIEND OF
09:04:24AM THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS BISHOP TOM SCOTT --
09:04:28AM BISHOP THOMAS SCOTT FROM THE 31st STREET.
09:04:32AM NO STRANGER HERE.
09:04:33AM HE SERVED AS A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE COUNTY
09:04:36AM COMMISSION AND SERVED AS CHAIRMAN MULTIPLE TIMES ELECTED BY
09:04:40AM HIS PEERS.
09:04:42AM DEVOTED HIMSELF TO THIS COMMUNITY AND GIVING BACK.
09:04:46AM MARRIED TO HIS LOVELY WIFE MARVA FOR 41-PLUS YEARS.
09:04:51AM IF WE CAN PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND WELCOME BISHOP
09:04:55AM SCOTT TO THE MICROPHONE.
09:04:56AM AND AFTER THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, I HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL
09:05:00AM GUEST.
09:05:00AM SO, WISH, TAKE IT AWAY.
09:05:03AM >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND TO THE COUNCILMEN.
09:05:05AM THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION TO COME AND BE HERE.
09:05:08AM ALWAYS AN HONOR TO COME AND ASK GOD'S BLESSINGS UPON YOU AND
09:05:12AM THE WORK YOU ARE DOING FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND FOR THIS CITY.
09:05:14AM SO IT IS MY PRIVILEGE AND HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY.
09:05:17AM SHALL WE PRAY.
09:05:18AM OUR FATHER, WE ALWAYS ARE REMINDED OF WHAT YOUR WORD TELLS
09:05:22AM US TO ACKNOWLEDGE NEW ALL OF OUR WAYS AND YOU WILL GIVE
09:05:26AM DIRECTIONS TO OUR PATH, TO OUR JOURNEY.
09:05:29AM TODAY WE BLESS YOU AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE THAT
09:05:32AM IS OURS FOR THIS NEW DAY, A NEW DAY OF GRACE.
09:05:36AM A NEW DAY OF MERCY.
09:05:38AM A NEW DAY OF LOVE.
09:05:41AM A NEW DAY OF OPPORTUNITY IN THE FACE OF CHALLENGES.
09:05:44AM WE THANK YOU FOR OUR NATION AND OUR COUNTRY.
09:05:47AM THANK YOU FOR AMERICA, FOR WHAT SHE STANDS FOR.
09:05:51AM ALL PERSONS ARE CREATED EQUAL IN YOUR SIGHT.
09:05:54AM WE THANK YOU, TODAY, FOR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ACROSS THIS
09:06:00AM NATION, THOSE THAT REPRESENT US IN WASHINGTON, THOSE IN
09:06:04AM TALLAHASSEE, AND THOSE HERE IN THE CITY COUNCIL TODAY.
09:06:08AM THANK YOU FOR THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE GIVEN OF
09:06:11AM THEMSELVES.
09:06:13AM I PRAY TODAY THAT YOU WILL GIVE THEM WISDOM.
09:06:16AM YOU GIVE THEM KNOWLEDGE.
09:06:17AM YOU GIVE THEM UNDERSTANDING.
09:06:20AM YOU GIVE THEM PATIENCE.
09:06:22AM AND I PRAY THAT AS THEY WORK TOGETHER, THERE WILL BE MEN AND
09:06:26AM WOMEN OF CIVILITY AND MEN AND WOMEN OF COURAGE AND INSIGHT.
09:06:30AM WE PRAY NOW THAT YOU WILL BLESS OUR GREAT CITY.
09:06:34AM BLESS OUR MAYOR.
09:06:36AM BLESS THE ADMINISTRATION.
09:06:38AM AND WE PRAY THAT THIS DAY WILL BE A GOOD DAY AS THIS CITY
09:06:41AM COUNCIL GO THROUGH THEIR AGENDA.
09:06:43AM IN YOUR NAME THAT WE PRAY, AMEN.
09:06:45AM >> AMEN.
09:06:47AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:07:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, MY SECOND GUEST TODAY IS A
09:07:04AM LOCAL ARCHITECT AND POET.
09:07:07AM HIS NAME IS MATTHEW SUAREZ.
09:07:09AM AND BESIDES ARCHITECTURE, HE WRITES POETRY THAT IS
09:07:14AM SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO ALL THINGS TAMPA HISTORICAL AND
09:07:18AM CURRENT.
09:07:19AM AND SINCE IT IS PARADE SEASON AND GASPARILLA.
09:07:22AM THE GASPARILLA PARADE IS THIS WEEKEND ALONG WITH ALL THE OUR
09:07:26AM PARADES COMING UP SOON, MATTHEW WROTE A POEM TO CELEBRATE
09:07:32AM THIS OCCASION.
09:07:33AM SO MR. SUAREZ, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP.
09:07:36AM >> SURE.
09:07:37AM I HAVE COPIES FOR THE COUNCIL.
09:07:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE DETAILS OF THE POEM WILL TALK
09:07:45AM ABOUT THE FOUNDERS OF THE PARADE, OTHER PARADES,
09:07:52AM OTHER KREWES.
09:07:52AM VERY INTERESTING.
09:07:53AM IF YOU LIKE TAMPA HISTORY, THESE POEMS ARE RIGHT UP FLORIDA.
09:07:56AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR THE INVITATION.
09:07:59AM INCLUDING, OF COURSE, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:08:02AM SO HERE WE GO.
09:08:05AM GASPARILLA.
09:08:05AM IT SAILS INTO TAMPA ONCE A YEAR.
09:08:09AM A PIRATE INVASION THAT BRINGS MORE CHEER THAN FEAR.
09:08:14AM HILLSBOROUGH BAY WHERE IT MAKES ITS START.
09:08:16AM THE MYSTIC KREWE PLAY THE PIRATE PART.
09:08:21AM THEY CHART THEIR COURSE.
09:08:22AM THE ANNUAL INTENT TO SEIZE THE CITY'S KEY BY FRIENDLY FORCE.
09:08:28AM UP THE CHANNEL THEY WILL SAIL AND TO THE CITY THEY WILL
09:08:30AM INVADE.
09:08:31AM THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER THEY TRAVEL TO BEGIN THEIR RAID.
09:08:34AM ONCE ASHORE FROM THEIR JOURNEY UPON THE HIGH TAMPA SEA, THEY
09:08:39AM DEMAND THE MAYOR OF TAMPA HAND OVER THE KEY.
09:08:41AM WITH CANNON FIRE RUMBLING IN THE NEAR DISTANCE, A TROUBLED
09:08:45AM MAYOR SURRENDERS THE KEY WITHOUT RESISTANCE.
09:08:48AM WITH KEY IN HAND, THESE MYSTIC PIRATES LOOK TO STAGE THEIR
09:08:55AM CELEBRATION AND OCCASION OF ONE OF THE LARGEST PARADES OF
09:08:58AM ALL THE NATION.
09:08:59AM BEFORE THEY LEAVE THEIR PLACE OF LANDING THEY HOST A VICTORY
09:09:02AM BRUNCH IN THE CITY THEY ARE NOW BE COMMANDING.
09:09:04AM MEANWHILE WREATHS OF COLORFUL FEATHERS AND BEADS HUNG ON
09:09:08AM MANY A DOOR AS PEOPLE GATHER FOR LEAGUES OF TAMPA'S
09:09:13AM BAYSHORE.
09:09:13AM PARTIES ON PORCHES AND YARDS AND DRIVEWAYS AS IT FLOW INTO
09:09:20AM CUP UNDER SUN SHINING RAYS.
09:09:22AM TIME COMES FOR THE MYSTIC KREWE, AND JOINED BY OTHERS TO
09:09:30AM BEGIN THEIR ANNUAL RAID.
09:09:31AM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, THEY BEGIN THIS JOURNEY LED BY THE MYSTIC
09:09:37AM KREWE LED BY MORE THAN ONE TAMPA DOCTOR AND ATTORNEY.
09:09:40AM DURING THIS PARADE THAT FOLLOWS THE BAYSHORE THAT RUN ALONG
09:09:44AM HILLSBOROUGH BAY, THE PARTICIPATING KREWES PUT TAMPA'S
09:09:49AM HISTORY AND CULTURE ON FULL DISPLAY.
09:09:51AM PEOPLE OF TAMPA, A FESTIVE ENVIRONMENT THAT IS FILLED WITH
09:09:53AM PLAY AS BEADS AND COINS ARE THROWN FROM DECORATIVE FLOATS
09:09:57AM THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
09:09:58AM YE MYSTIC KREWE OF GASPARILLA, TAMPA'S PIRATES WILL FOREVER
09:10:04AM GROW, ROUGH RIDERS OF THE SPANISH AMERICAN WAR NEVER LAYS
09:10:09AM LOW.
09:10:09AM TAMPA CELEBRATES CULTURALLY DIVERSE, KREWE OF SANTIAGO WILL
09:10:18AM ALWAYS LAST.
09:10:19AM A TAMPA TRADITION THAT STARTED IN 1904.
09:10:21AM A TAMPA TRADITION THAT BELONGS TO THE BAYSHORE.
09:10:24AM A TAMPA TRADITION BY HARDY.
09:10:26AM A TAMPA TRADITION THAT BEGAN ON THE HIGH TAMPA SEA.
09:10:29AM A TAMPA TRADITION THAT FEATURE A MYSTIC PIRATE PARADE AND
09:10:37AM FLOTILLA.
09:10:37AM TAMPA TRADITION KNOWN AS GASPARILLA.
09:10:39AM THANK YOU
09:10:40AM [APPLAUSE]
09:10:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:10:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MADAM CLERK, MAY WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL.
09:10:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:11:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:11:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:11:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:11:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:11:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:11:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:11:06AM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:11:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:11:09AM MR. SHELBY.
09:11:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:11:13AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:11:15AM VERY BRIEFLY, COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION IS AT THE
09:11:19AM ENDS OF -- BESIDES THE BEGINNING, BUT WE WILL TALK ABOUT
09:11:23AM THAT LATER IN THE AGENDA.
09:11:25AM PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE SUBJECT OF THE WORKSHOP WILL BE TAKEN
09:11:28AM AT THE END OF EACH WORKSHOP ITEM PLEASE AND ALSO, COUNCIL, I
09:11:31AM ASK THAT COUNCIL WAIVE THE RULES TO ALLOW THE CONTINUED USE
09:11:34AM OF CMT FOR THIS WORKSHOP.
09:11:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:11:39AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:11:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:11:42AM OPPOSED?
09:11:43AM THANK YOU, THE MOTION PASSES.
09:11:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:11:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SHALL WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AT THIS TIME?
09:11:49AM I THINK THERE IS JUST A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS.
09:11:52AM MISS DUNCAN, ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 HAS REQUESTED THAT WE
09:11:57AM MOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8 TO GO AHEAD WITH -- AND COINCIDE
09:12:03AM WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:12:05AM IS THERE ANY?
09:12:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:12:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:12:10AM DO I HAVE A SECOND?
09:12:15AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:12:15AM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:12:18AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:12:20AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:12:20AM ANY OBJECTION?
09:12:22AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:12:22AM COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS ALSO -- AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, A
09:12:28AM SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
09:12:30AM AND HE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONTINUED UNTIL MARCH 23.
09:12:34AM IS THAT CORRECT?
09:12:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, YES, SIR.
09:12:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
09:12:42AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:12:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:12:44AM ANY OBJECTION?
09:12:45AM THANK YOU, MOTION PASSES.
09:12:46AM ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBER SEE ANY -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:12:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW, IF I MAY -- NO, IT SHOULD BE
09:12:56AM ELECTIONS AND EVEN YEARS OPPOSED TO ODD YEARS JUST FOR THE
09:13:01AM CLERK.
09:13:01AM THAT IS ALL.
09:13:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RELATING TO THE SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
09:13:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WAS THE SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
09:13:09AM YOU ARE ASKING FOR THE CLERK TO CORRECT IT?
09:13:11AM IT SHOULD SAY HAVING THE CITY OF TAMPA ELECTIONS IN EVEN
09:13:14AM YEARS OPPOSED TO ODD YEARS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL
09:13:17AM ELECTIONS.
09:13:18AM IS THAT PART OF WHY YOU ARE MOTION?
09:13:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
09:13:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:13:21AM DID YOU CATCH THAT, MADAM CLERK.
09:13:25AM >>CLERK: YES.
09:13:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: SWITCH THE TWO AROUND.
09:13:30AM THANK YOU.
09:13:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:13:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:13:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
09:13:35AM APOLOGIES TO MY COLLEAGUES.
09:13:36AM I SENT A MEMO LAST NIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO -- MAKE A
09:13:40AM MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 6.
09:13:43AM >> SECOND.
09:13:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN WE SET THIS DATE, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT
09:13:48AM WE WOULD ALL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF CAMPAIGN SEASON AND I JUST
09:13:51AM DON'T THINK -- BECAUSE OF THE POLITICIZED ENVIRONMENT, I
09:13:55AM DON'T THINK IT IS GOOD TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW.
09:13:57AM BY THE TIME THE ELECTION WILL BE OVER IS MAY 1 WHICH WILL BE
09:14:00AM THE NEW COUNCIL.
09:14:01AM INSTEAD OF CONTINUING IT AND PUTTING IT ON THE NEW COUNCIL,
09:14:04AM LET THE NEW COUNCIL DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO BRING THIS BACK
09:14:07AM UP.
09:14:07AM I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
09:14:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO REMOVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 BY
09:14:13AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:14:14AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:14:15AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:14:16AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:14:18AM OKAY.
09:14:18AM DOES THAT COMPLETE OUR AGENDA?
09:14:21AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:14:22AM WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
09:14:24AM IS THERE ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
09:14:30AM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME?
09:14:32AM YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
09:14:34AM >> UHURU, MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:14:46AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
09:14:50AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING OF OUR
09:14:53AM FREEDOM.
09:14:53AM WE SHOULD ALWAYS TRY TO STAY CONNECTED TO WHAT IS OUR
09:14:57AM HISTORICAL MISSION IN LIFE WHICH IS TO BE FREE AND
09:15:00AM SELF-DETERMINING PEOPLE.
09:15:01AM WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK IS PART OF WHAT HAPPENED -- WHAT I
09:15:07AM AM WEARING RIGHT NOW.
09:15:07AM WHITE PEOPLE REALLY THINK WHEN THEY LOOK AT US, WHEN THEY
09:15:11AM SEE OUR SKIN COLOR, THEY THINK WE ARE STUPID AUTOMATICALLY.
09:15:14AM THEY JUST THINK IT IS SOMETHING STUPID ABOUT US.
09:15:17AM BASED ON SKIN COLOR.
09:15:20AM SO THEY HAVE EASY IDENTIFIABLE MARKERS.
09:15:25AM THEY DON'T HAVE TO ANYTHING ABOUT YOU, ABOUT YOUR EDUCATION,
09:15:30AM YOUR BACKGROUND, ABOUT ANYTHING AT ALL, ABOUT YOUR WEALTH,
09:15:33AM ABOUT WHATSOEVER IT MEET BE OR HOW SOEVER IT MIGHT BE.
09:15:38AM ALL THEY DO IS SEE THAT BLACK SKIN AND THAT RACIAL HATRED,
09:15:43AM THAT SKIN COLOR DISCRIMINATION STARTS COMING OUT IN THEM.
09:15:46AM AND WHITE PEOPLE REALLY THINK WE ARE STUPID.
09:15:50AM WHAT YOU DID LAST WEEK, THAT GOOD COP, BAD COP BUSINESS.
09:15:53AM HEY, WE HAD ALL THESE MEETINGS WITH THE MAY I DON'T
09:15:56AM REMEMBER.
09:15:56AM WE DID THIS.
09:15:56AM THE MAYOR IS LOBBYING US.
09:15:59AM WE REALLY WANT THIS THINGS TO GO THROUGH.
09:16:01AM BLACK PEOPLE RANT THAT STUPID.
09:16:05AM WE ARE NOT THAT STUPID.
09:16:06AM WE ARE THAT OPPRESSED, BUT NOT THAT STUPID.
09:16:09AM WHEN THOSE ITEMS CAME UP OR CAME BACK FOR A VOTE, THEY
09:16:13AM SHOULD HAVE VOTED ON THEM COLLEGE I HAVE ITLY.
09:16:15AM AND THEY NEED TO RECALL -- THEY NEED A RECALL IN THAT
09:16:18AM SITUATION.
09:16:18AM THAT IS WHAT THEY NEED.
09:16:20AM THEY NEED TO VOTE ALL FIVE OF THEM UP AND DOWN.
09:16:22AM STRAIGHT UP AND DOWN VOTE.
09:16:24AM DIDN'T NEED TO BE SEPARATED.
09:16:25AM SO THAT IS HOW THEY TRICK AFRICAN PEOPLE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
09:16:29AM SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED MONTHS AGO NEVER
09:16:32AM HAPPENED AND THEN IT COMES BACK UP BASED ON WHAT?
09:16:37AM NOW THEY ARE GOING LINE ITEM VETO.
09:16:39AM NO, IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT WAY.
09:16:41AM WE ARE 26% OF THIS POPULATION.
09:16:44AM GETTING LESS AND LESS EVERY DAY BECAUSE THEY ARE KICKING US
09:16:47AM OUT OF OUR HOMES.
09:16:49AM CITY IS STEALING PROPERTY FROM US, FROM OUR PARENTS,
09:16:54AM GRANDPARENTS.
09:16:54AM IT HAS BEEN GOING ON.
09:16:56AM NO ONE IN THIS CITY COUNCIL TALKS ABOUT WHAT BLACK PEOPLE
09:17:00AM GET OUT OF THIS BUDGET.
09:17:01AM NOT AT ALL.
09:17:04AM AND EVERY DAY, WHITE PEOPLE COME TO OUR FUNCTIONS, COME IN
09:17:07AM OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, SMILE WITH US, CHEESE WITH US, EAT
09:17:11AM WATERMELON WITH US, EVERYTHING.
09:17:12AM AND THEY SUPPOSED TO BE OUR FRIENDS.
09:17:15AM THAT IS A POOR STANDARD BLACK PEOPLE HAVE FOR OURSELVES.
09:17:18AM WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT STANDARD.
09:17:20AM THIS CITY OWES US REPARATIONS.
09:17:22AM WE WANT OUR REPARATIONS.
09:17:24AM OTHER CITIES OWE US REPARATIONS.
09:17:27AM WE WANT OUR REPARATIONS.
09:17:28AM AMERICA OWE BLACK PEOPLE REPARATIONS.
09:17:32AM WE WANT OUR REPARATIONS.
09:17:34AM AMERICA OWES AFRICA, REPARATIONS.
09:17:36AM WE WANT OUR REPARATIONS.
09:17:38AM WE DON'T WANT NONE OF THE STUPIDNESS OR GASPARILLA
09:17:43AM STUPIDNESS.
09:17:44AM GASPARILLA IS A HATE PARADE.
09:17:46AM AND IT BLACK PEOPLE TRIED TO STOP IT BEFORE, AND WEREN'T
09:17:50AM SUCCESSFUL.
09:17:50AM GASPARILLA IS A HATE PARADE AND WHITE PEOPLE ARE MAKING
09:17:54AM POEMS AND TALKING OF INCLUSIVENESS.
09:17:56AM NOTHING INCLUSIVE ABOUT GASPARILLA.
09:17:58AM A HATE PARADE.
09:17:59AM PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
09:18:00AM THANK YOU.
09:18:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:18:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:18:09AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
09:18:12AM YOU KNOW I LEARNED SOMETHING NEW EVERY SINGLE DAY ABOUT THIS
09:18:15AM CITY.
09:18:15AM I AM ALWAYS KINDS OF BEFUDDLED HOW I DID NOT REALIZE THINGS.
09:18:21AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED RECENTLY IS THAT COMP PLANS
09:18:24AM AND REZONINGS DO NOT AND HAVE NOT TRAVELED TOGETHER ALWAYS.
09:18:30AM AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIG ONES THAT COME TO MIND THAT
09:18:34AM DIDN'T TRAVEL TOGETHER WAS THE COMP PLAN IN AMENDMENTS FOR
09:18:37AM RATTLESNAKE POINT DID NOT TRAVEL WITH THE REZONINGS.
09:18:41AM SO WHEN THE REZONINGS CAME UP, THE LAND DEVELOPMENT TOLD US
09:18:47AM IT IS TOO LATE.
09:18:48AM IT'S NOT TIME FOR THAT.
09:18:50AM YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT BACK THEN, 2006, MIND YOU, WHEN WE
09:18:56AM HAD A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT -- THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
09:18:58AM HAD A WHOLE SECTION ON THAT LITTLE PENINSULA IN SOUTH TAMPA
09:19:04AM THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME BECAUSE SOUTH OF GANDY DOESN'T
09:19:06AM HAVE ONE.
09:19:07AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS DOESN'T HAVE THEIR OWN SECTION.
09:19:09AM ALL THESE BIG AREAS OF TOWN DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN SECTION,
09:19:13AM BUT RATTLESNAKE POINT SEEM TO GET THEIR OWN COMP PLAN
09:19:17AM SECTION.
09:19:18AM I WOULD ARGUE THAT NOW CITY COUNCIL IS TAKING ON A BIGGER
09:19:23AM LEGAL BURDEN BY COMBINING THE COMP PLAN AND THE REZONINGS
09:19:26AM TOGETHER, BECAUSE IF YOU TURN DOWN A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT,
09:19:30AM THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A BASIS TO SUE THE CITY.
09:19:32AM BUT AS LONG AS WE TAKE THOSE AND PUT THEM IN BED TOGETHER,
09:19:36AM THEN YOU GUYS ARE AT A LEGAL -- WHATEVER.
09:19:41AM ANYWAY, BUT YOU GET MY POINT.
09:19:44AM AS LONG AS YOU CONTINUE TO TAKE THOSE TOGETHER.
09:19:46AM THEY HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN TAKEN TOGETHER.
09:19:50AM I WANT YOU TO SERIOUSLY CONSIDER GOING BACK TO THE OLD WAY
09:19:53AM WHERE COMP PLANS WERE TAKEN ON ONE NIGHT AND REZONINGS TAKEN
09:19:57AM ON A DIFFERENT NIGHT.
09:19:58AM THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE SIX WEEKS APART, JUST SEPARATELY,
09:20:01AM BECAUSE THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO UPHOLD THIS COMPREHENSIVE
09:20:05AM PLAN.
09:20:06AM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TELL US WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN THE
09:20:09AM CITY.
09:20:09AM WE RENEW IT, WHAT, EVERY SIX OR SEVEN YEARS.
09:20:12AM AND THE PROBLEM IS, WE ARE NOT TAKING THAT DOCUMENT
09:20:16AM SERIOUSLY EVERY SINGLE TIME WE MAKE A CAMP PLAN AMOUNT TO LO
09:20:21AM AND BEHOLD ONE SINGLE LANDOWNER, WE SAY THAT THAT COMP PLAN
09:20:27AM ISN'T WORTH THE PAPER IT IS WRITTEN ON.
09:20:29AM WHY ARE WE SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE
09:20:34AM PLAN WRITTEN IF TO THE WORTH THE PAPER IT IS WRITTEN DOWN IF
09:20:38AM WE CHANGE IT WITHOUT REALLY, REALLY SERIOUS THOUGHTS ON THE
09:20:41AM MATTER.
09:20:41AM SO I JUST WONDER, YOU KNOW WHY DID WE START DOING IT THIS
09:20:49AM WAY AND WHY DON'T WE GO BACK TO DOING IT THAT WAY.
09:20:52AM BECAUSE IF THEY ARE SEPARATED, THE LEGISLATURE -- IF YOU
09:20:55AM TURN DOWN A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE, THE LEGAL BASIS FOR A
09:20:59AM LAWSUIT IS MUCH, MUCH LOWER.
09:21:01AM AND THEY HAVE A HARDER TIME FILING A LAWSUIT.
09:21:05AM AS MISS ZELMAN SAID TWO WEEKS AGO, YOU KNOW, THE LEGAL
09:21:09AM DEPARTMENT DOESN'T WANT TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY.
09:21:11AM AND I AM SAD MR. VIERA IS NOT UP HERE, BECAUSE HONESTLY, HE
09:21:15AM TALKS ABOUT HOW DETRIMENTAL IT IS THAT WE NOT GET SUED.
09:21:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:21:21AM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT?
09:21:34AM SEEING NONE.
09:21:35AM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
09:21:39AM MISS DUNCAN.
09:21:46AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, JEAN DUNCAN,
09:21:52AM ADMINISTRATOR FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.
09:21:54AM IF COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE
09:21:58AM ABOUT THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WORKSHOP THAT OCCURRED
09:22:00AM YESTERDAY REGARDING WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY CALLED THE
09:22:04AM TRANSPORTATION FUNDS.
09:22:05AM IF THAT IS OKAY.
09:22:06AM SO YESTERDAY, THE COUNTY HAD A WORKSHOP ABOUT THIS TOPIC.
09:22:14AM THEY WERE CONTACTED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE ON
09:22:19AM INQUIRING ABOUT A LIST OF PROJECTS THAT THE DEPARTMENT WOULD
09:22:21AM LIKE TO HAVE.
09:22:22AM THE DISCUSSION WAS -- I WOULD CHARACTERIZE IT AT HIGH LEVEL.
09:22:27AM NOT A DEEP DIVE ON SPECIFICS AS FAR AS THEIR PROJECT LIST.
09:22:31AM THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THERE ARE $569 MILLION AT STAKE HERE
09:22:38AM THAT COULD BE DISTRIBUTED.
09:22:39AM WE BELIEVE FROM THE CALCULATIONS ARE CUT BASED ON POPULATION
09:22:43AM IS ABOUT $124 MILLION.
09:22:45AM WE DID HEAR YESTERDAY THAT THERE IS AN INTEREST ON THE PART
09:22:49AM OF THE COUNTY TO DISTRIBUTE THOSE FUNDS IN TERMS OF
09:22:54AM POPULATION.
09:22:55AM WE ARE NOT SURE HOW HART FITS INTO THAT MIX, BUT THAT WAS
09:23:00AM GOOD TO HEAR, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE I FELT THAT THE NEWS THAT
09:23:03AM CAME OUT WEDNESDAY EVENING ON THIS WAS NOT VERY POSITIVE FOR
09:23:08AM TAMPA.
09:23:08AM THE WORKSHOP SHED A MORE POSITIVE LIGHT ON THE SITUATION.
09:23:13AM OUR TOP PRIORITIES OF HAVE BEEN EMBEDDED INTO SPECIFIC
09:23:19AM PROJECTS THAT WERE PROVIDED SOME TIME AGO.
09:23:22AM BUT ESSENTIALLY, THOSE TOP PRIORITIES ARE RESURFACING AND
09:23:26AM OUR STREETCAR.
09:23:27AM WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON WHAT FORMAT, WHAT
09:23:31AM DETAIL LEVEL, AND SO FORTH, THEY WANT OUR LIST TO BE
09:23:34AM PROVIDED FOR THEM IN.
09:23:35AM THEY WILL BE HAVING ANOTHER DISCUSSION IN MORE DETAIL ON
09:23:39AM FEBRUARY 15.
09:23:40AM THEY WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE DISTRIBUTION, AS WELL AS
09:23:44AM THEIR LIST, AND WE WILL CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT OUR LIST IS
09:23:49AM INCORPORATED INTO THAT, SO THAT IS WHAT HAPPENS AS WELL.
09:23:53AM ANOTHER GOOD NOTE IS THAT THE SENSE SEEMED TO BE THAT THE
09:23:58AM COUNTY ROADS WITHIN THE CITY IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE
09:24:01AM CONSIDERING AS THEIR ASSET WHICH THEY WILL BE ADDRESSING
09:24:04AM WITH THEIR LIST.
09:24:05AM DETAILS WILL BE FORTHCOMING BASED ON THIS NEXT WORKSHOP.
09:24:09AM NEXT STEPS WILL BE THIS LIST IS PROVIDED TO THE DEPARTMENT
09:24:12AM OF REVENUE.
09:24:12AM AND THAT THERE IS NOT A SURE STEP AFTER THAT.
09:24:16AM BUT WE WILL STAY CLOSE IN THIS PROCESS AND, OF COURSE,
09:24:21AM ADVOCATE FOR OUR NEEDS.
09:24:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO GO COUNCILMAN GUDES,
09:24:25AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:24:27AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:24:28AM SORRY, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SORRY.
09:24:32AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:24:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:24:35AM REAL QUICK.
09:24:36AM WHAT IS OUR SIDEWALK BUDGET FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, RIGHT
09:24:39AM UNDER $1 MILLION A YEAR?
09:24:42AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I APOLOGIZE.
09:24:43AM I DON'T HAVE THAT AT MY FINGERTIPS.
09:24:47AM GENERALLY AROUND THAT AMOUNT.
09:24:48AM WE CAN GET YOU THAT THE EXACT NUMBER.
09:24:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OUR PAVING BUDGET IN THE $4 MILLION, $5
09:24:54AM MILLION RANGE?
09:24:55AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
09:24:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STREETCAR EXTENSION TO PALM AVENUE WAS,
09:24:59AM WHAT, RIGHT AROUND $100 MILLION?
09:25:01AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: LAST ESTIMATES WERE HIGHER THAN THAT.
09:25:04AM I HAVE VIK BHIDE ON THE LINE IF YOU WANT MORE SPECIFIC
09:25:08AM INFORMATION.
09:25:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE HE ANSWERS, IF WE WERE TO GAIN
09:25:11AM ACCESS TO THIS -- YOU SAY $120 MILLION, OR $125 MILLION.
09:25:16AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
09:25:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STREETCAR IS $100 MILLION.
09:25:20AM GIVE OR TAKE.
09:25:21AM YOU SAID IT WAS MORE.
09:25:22AM IF WE HAD $50 MILLION, COULD WE THEN BE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY
09:25:26AM FOR OTHER GRANTS TO HELP US MATCH OR PUT TOWARD THE STREET
09:25:29AM CAR EXPANSION BEING THAT WE HAVE SUCH A LARGE DOWNPAYMENT?
09:25:33AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, WE WILL BE FINE TUNING THAT NUMBER TO
09:25:36AM SEE WHAT OUR MARCH WOULD BE.
09:25:37AM WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS WITH THE FEDERAL TRANSIT AUTHORITY
09:25:43AM CURRENTLY.
09:25:44AM AND SO LET ME ASK VIK IF HE CAN OFFER THAT SPECIFIC MATCH
09:25:49AM THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.
09:25:51AM VIK, IF YOU JUMP ON THE LINE PLEASE.
09:25:54AM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE THING.
09:25:55AM GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
09:25:57AM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
09:26:00AM INDEED, IF WE DO GET THESE FUNDS, THESE FUNDS WILL BE
09:26:05AM ELIGIBLE FOR MATCHES FOR FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS SO THAT WE
09:26:09AM CAN MULTIPLY WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO.
09:26:12AM AS FAR AS OUR PRIORITIES, LIKE JEAN MENTIONED, IT IS
09:26:17AM PRIMARILY RESURFACING, SIDEWALKS, AND THE STREETCAR, BUT WE
09:26:22AM ARE REVIEWING OPTIONS FOR WHAT THAT STREET CAR PROJECT IS.
09:26:25AM BUT THE GOAL STILL REMAINS TO PROVIDE A ROBUST URBAN
09:26:31AM CIRCULATOR.
09:26:33AM BY UTILIZING AVAILABLE FUNDS FOR ALL OF THESE PRIORITIES.
09:26:37AM SO THAT IS -- THAT IS A PRIORITY.
09:26:39AM AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THE MIX.
09:26:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
09:26:42AM AND I REMEMBER YOU SHOWING ME A LIST OF SIDEWALK PROJECTS,
09:26:46AM YOU KNOW.
09:26:47AM IF ATF WENT THROUGH -- THIS WAS YEARS AGO.
09:26:51AM I REMEMBER SEEING 120, 125 PROJECTS ON THAT LIST.
09:26:56AM I DON'T KNOW IF IN MY DISTRICT OR CITYWIDE, WE WOULD BE ABLE
09:26:59AM TO TACKLE A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT LIST.
09:27:02AM WE KNOW ABOUT THE ROAD QUALITY AND OUR LIMITED BUDGET, WE
09:27:05AM WILL BE ABLE TO TACKLE A LOT THERE.
09:27:06AM ARE WE PROHIBITED TO -- I DON'T SEE HOW -- BUT TO REACH OUT
09:27:11AM TO THE COUNTY.
09:27:12AM YOU SAY THAT -- YOU MENTIONED THAT COUNTY ROADS THAT ARE
09:27:16AM WITHIN THE CITY WILL BE REPAVED POSSIBLY.
09:27:18AM SO I KNOW WE HAVE HOWARD AND ARMENIA WHICH ARE IN VERY BAD
09:27:22AM SHAPE.
09:27:22AM COLUMBUS DRIVE WHICH I KNOW CITY-COUNTY, A CONFUSION THERE.
09:27:26AM WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON THAT.
09:27:28AM I GUESS A QUESTION FOR MR. SHELBY.
09:27:30AM IF -- I REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY COMMISSION, TO THE
09:27:33AM REQUESTED ADMINISTRATOR, INDIVIDUAL COUNTY COMMISSIONERS,
09:27:37AM WOULD HE BE PROHIBITED UNDER SUNSHINE TO PUT IN A REQUEST,
09:27:41AM THESE ARE THE CITIES -- THESE ARE THE ROADS THAT ARE COUNTY
09:27:44AM WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE WOULD LIKE PRIORITY OR NO?
09:27:50AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: COUNCILMAN -- I APOLOGIZE.
09:27:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THE QUESTION IS, THE PROCESS -- WILL
09:28:00AM THIS GO BEFORE THE TPO AS WELL?
09:28:04AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I REALLY DON'T KNOW HONESTLY.
09:28:05AM BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
09:28:07AM AT THIS POINT WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE TO
09:28:10AM DISTRIBUTE THE FUNDS.
09:28:10AM BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY, WE DO HAVE A LIST OF CORRIDORS
09:28:16AM THAT INCLUDE COUNTY ROADS.
09:28:16AM SO WHAT I WOULD ASK IF YOU COULD WORK WITH STAFF FIRST TO
09:28:20AM SHOW YOU WHAT WE HAVE.
09:28:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN I WILL REACH OUT TO YOU.
09:28:23AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: IF YOU FEEL ANOTHER NEED OF FURTHER
09:28:26AM CONVERSATION, WE CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU THE BACKGROUND AT
09:28:29AM LEAST AND DECIDE FROM THERE.
09:28:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT ANSWER IT IS.
09:28:33AM AS YOU MENTIONED FIRST AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
09:28:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:28:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: VIK, I SAW YOUR HAND UP.
09:28:41AM DO YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT?
09:28:42AM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
09:28:43AM I WANT TO REITERATE THE PROCESS FOR LOCAL AGENCIES, RELATIVE
09:28:47AM TO THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE AND REQUEST OF THE COUNTY IS
09:28:51AM STILL IN DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY.
09:28:52AM SO AT THIS POINT, WHAT HAS BEEN SHARED BY JEAN IS AS MUCH AS
09:28:58AM WE KNOW.
09:28:58AM WE WILL KEEP COUNCIL UPDATED ON NEXT STEPS, OF COURSE.
09:29:03AM AND WHAT THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO BE.
09:29:05AM OUR PRIORITIES HAVE NOT CHANGED.
09:29:08AM OUR LIST THAT IT WERE SUBMITTED WHEN IT WAS FIRST INITIATED
09:29:14AM AND PASSED MAY EVOLVE SLIGHTLY, BUT BROADER PRIORITIES ARE
09:29:21AM RESURFACING, SIDEWALKS, AND A STRONG URBAN CORE AND MOBILITY
09:29:26AM WITHIN THAT URBAN CORE.
09:29:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:29:28AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:29:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO FOLLOW-UP ON THAT.
09:29:31AM I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POSSIBLY BEING ABLE TO TAKE
09:29:35AM OVER COUNTY ROADS.
09:29:36AM AND I WOULD WONDER AND ACTUALLY REALLY HOPE THAT THESE FUNDS
09:29:42AM COULD GO TOWARD THE COUNTY GIVING US FUNDING FOR ONE OF
09:29:47AM THESE ROADS AND THEN US BEING ABLE TO TAKE IT OVER IN THE
09:29:49AM FUTURE.
09:29:50AM WE HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS.
09:29:52AM AND THING WILL BE A FABULOUS OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE OVER SOME
09:29:56AM OF THOSE ROADS SO THAT THEY DO BELONG TO US.
09:30:01AM I KNOW ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVEN'T, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
09:30:03AM THE FUNDING TO GET THEM UP TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
09:30:07AM THING THIS WILL BE A WONDERFUL WAY ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE
09:30:10AM LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE LARGER ROADS THAT ARE FEEDERS INTO
09:30:13AM THE CITY AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW THE
09:30:16AM COUNTY IS INTERESTED IN, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE GREAT
09:30:19AM TRANSPORTATION TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE CITY FOR JOBS.
09:30:22AM SO I WOULD -- I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE CREATE THE FOCUS ON
09:30:26AM THAT.
09:30:26AM AND OBVIOUSLY, I THINK THAT THE SIDEWALKS ARE GREAT AND THE
09:30:29AM STREETCAR, BUT WHAT I HEAR MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE RIGHT NOW
09:30:33AM IS ABOUT ROAD REPAVING.
09:30:34AM SO ANY -- ANY WAY TO PULL SOME OF SOME OF THOSE IN OUR
09:30:44AM JURISDICTION WITH THIS MONEY WILL BE ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL
09:30:47AM FOR OUR CITIZENS IN THE LONG TERM.
09:30:48AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE COMPLETELY AGREE.
09:30:49AM THAT WAS THE INTENT WHEN WE ATTEMPTED TO GET A PENNY A FEW
09:30:54AM YEARS AGO TO GIVE THE COUNTY AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING 9 ROADS
09:30:57AM UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS AND HAND THEM OVER -- TURN THEM OVER
09:31:01AM TO THE CITY AND WE CAN CONTROL OUR OWN DESTINY.
09:31:03AM WE DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE THAT CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND START AT
09:31:06AM THAT LEVEL, YES, WE WOULD BE PURSUING THAT FURTHER.
09:31:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:31:11AM GREAT.
09:31:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:31:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY COLLEAGUES HIT THE HIGH NOTES THAT I WAS
09:31:18AM GOING TO HIT AND I WILL GO QUICKLY THROUGH SOME THINGS.
09:31:22AM SORRY IF YOU SAID ANY OF THIS.
09:31:24AM APPROXIMATELY $125 MILLION.
09:31:25AM WHEN -- I KNOW IT IS IMPOSSIBLE -- BUT WHEN DO YOU THINK IT
09:31:28AM MY COME IN OR COME IN ONE BIG PAYMENT OR OVER TIME?
09:31:32AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I REALLY DON'T KNOW.
09:31:34AM WE DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THOSE DETAILS AT THE WORKSHOP.
09:31:37AM SO -- BUT WE ARE KEEPING VERY CLOSE TO IT, BECAUSE I KNOW
09:31:42AM THE COUNTY IS INTERESTED AS WELL WITH THOSE DETAILS.
09:31:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN WE -- WE TALKED ABOUT THE STREET
09:31:50AM CAR.
09:31:50AM I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE STREET CAR, BUT ALSO DEPENDS ON THE
09:31:54AM BUDGET.
09:31:54AM CHAIR CITRO A FEW YEARS AGO MADE A MOTION REGARDING THE
09:31:58AM STREETCAR.
09:31:59AM IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, HE -- I WON'T HOLD TO THIS MEMORY,
09:32:04AM BUT HE THREW OUT A NUMBER OF, LIKE, $16 MILLION.
09:32:07AM WHAT DO YOU THINK -- AND THAT WAS JUST UP TO -- WHERE,
09:32:11AM COLUMBUS OR SOMETHING?
09:32:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, I WAS ASKING FOR THE -- FOR THE
09:32:16AM 25% MATCHING FUNDS THAT THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE TO --
09:32:21AM IF.
09:32:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: TO PALM.
09:32:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: KEEP HEARING $100 MILLION TO COMPLETE THE
09:32:27AM PROJECT BUT IF WE WANT TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT 25% MATCHING
09:32:30AM FUNDS WHICH IS BETWEEN $16 MILLION TO $20 MILLION UP TO
09:32:34AM PALM, CIRCLING FLORIDA AVENUE, PALM, BACK TOWARD TAMPA
09:32:37AM STREET.
09:32:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION WILL BE $60 MILLION
09:32:44AM $16 MILLION?
09:32:45AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: DEPENDS WITH PALM AVENUE.
09:32:48AM THAT IS A DIFFERENT NUMBER.
09:32:49AM I WILL ASK VIK BECAUSE HE HAS THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF HIM.
09:32:52AM VIK GIVE THE CURRENT -- CURRENTLY LOOKING UP TO PALM.
09:32:56AM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, JEAN.
09:32:58AM SO TO CLARIFY, THE STREETCAR PROJECT, AS COUNCIL IS AWARE,
09:33:05AM WAS INITIATED SEVERAL YEARS BACK.
09:33:06AM AND SINCE THEN, TECHNOLOGIES HAVE CHANGED.
09:33:09AM OUR LANDSCAPE HAS CHANGED AS WELL.
09:33:11AM AND THEN THE FUNDING AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW IS LIMITED.
09:33:16AM EVEN WITH THE 124 MILLION.
09:33:18AM THE ACTUAL ESTIMATE THAT WE HAVE AS OF THREE AND A HALF
09:33:22AM YEARS AGO FOR MODERNIZATION AND EXTENSION WAS $234 MILLION
09:33:27AM TOTAL, WHICH IS WHY THE STATE ALLOCATED 67%, 25% OF THAT.
09:33:33AM NOW THAT IS A VERY HIGH NUMBER RELATIVE TO RESOURCES
09:33:37AM AVAILABLE.
09:33:38AM AND THAT IS MAKING US LOOK AT HOW DO WE KEEP THIS PRIORITY.
09:33:44AM HOW DO WE PROVIDE THIS MOBILITY NEED THROUGH OUR
09:33:48AM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT MAKE UP OUR URBAN CORE RIGHT NOW.
09:33:50AM WHILE MANAGING COSTS.
09:33:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO IF I COULD JUST -- SORRY TO CUT OFF.
09:33:57AM I THINK CHAIR CITRO PUT ON THE AGENDA IN THE FUTURE A LONG
09:34:02AM DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STREETCAR.
09:34:03AM I AM A SUPPORTER OF THE STREETCAR.
09:34:05AM BUT I WOULD SUGGEST WITH THIS MONEY, $124 MILLION, $125
09:34:10AM MILLION.
09:34:10AM I WILL BE OKAY PUTTING $16 MILLION OF IT IN.
09:34:13AM BUT I WOULDN'T BE IN FAVOR OF PUTTING MORE THAN 20% TO 25%
09:34:17AM FOR THE REASONS THAT MY OTHER COLLEAGUES MENTIONED.
09:34:21AM USED TO BE BROKEN ROADS IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE.
09:34:24AM NOW IT IS MURDER RATE AND CRIME.
09:34:26AM BUT PEOPLE ARE REALLY ANGRY ABOUT THE ROADS FALLING APART.
09:34:30AM WE DON'T HAVE GOOD ANSWERS FOR THEM.
09:34:32AM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T THINK WE ARE SPENDING
09:34:35AM MONEY ON A PET PROJECT.
09:34:36AM IF THERE IS A WAY TO PUT A LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY TO MOVE
09:34:39AM IT TO THE NEXT PHASE, WE NEED TO SHOW PROGRESS AND THEY WERE
09:34:44AM SUPPORTIVE.
09:34:44AM IF WE HAVE A WINDFALL, WE NEED TO FIX THE BASIC ROADS
09:34:49AM BECAUSE PEOPLE -- THEIR CARS ARE OUT OF ALIGNMENT.
09:34:52AM THEIR TIRES ARE POPPING.
09:34:53AM ALL KINDS OF BAD THINGS.
09:34:55AM THE NEXT ONE IS A LIST -- WE APPROVED A LIST A COUPLE OF
09:34:58AM YEARS AGO YOU WERE PUTTING INTO IT.
09:35:00AM WILL YOU MIND -- BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW COUNCILMEMBERS CAN
09:35:02AM YOU CIRCULATE THAT SO PEOPLE CAN SEE IT.
09:35:05AM STILL THE LIST YOU ARE WORKING ON.
09:35:07AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
09:35:07AM WE WILL SEND THAT OUT TODAY FOR YOU IN ITS CURRENT FORMAT,
09:35:12AM AGAIN, IT MAY ADJUST A LITTLE BIT IN TERMS OF HOW THE COUNTY
09:35:15AM WANTS IT, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE CONTENT LIST BEFORE IT
09:35:19AM GOES OVER TO THE COUNTY AS WELL TO REFRESH EVERYONE IF YOU
09:35:22AM WOULD LIKE.
09:35:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
09:35:25AM BECAUSE IF I REMEMBER A PRACTICAL LIST OF WHAT WE NEEDED.
09:35:29AM I ECHO SIDEWALKS.
09:35:30AM THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR BETTER SIDEWALKS.
09:35:34AM CONNECTIVITY TO SCHOOLS.
09:35:35AM JUST SAFETY IN GENERAL FOR WALKING STREETS.
09:35:37AM AND WE KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS IT.
09:35:40AM RESPECIALLY NOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME AND
09:35:44AM STARTING BUSINESSES IN NEIGHBORHOODS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
09:35:47AM WE DO THAT TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY.
09:35:50AM I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME THING THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
09:35:54AM SAID WITH COUNTY ROADS.
09:35:54AM WITH BAY TO BAY, WE NEED THE STREETLIGHT THERE BECAUSE OF
09:35:58AM FATAL ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND WE ARE RELYING ON THE
09:36:02AM COUNTY.
09:36:02AM I KNOW COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAD SOME CONCERNS IN THE PAST
09:36:05AM ABOUT COUNTY ROADS COMING OVER.
09:36:07AM AND FIRST OF ALL, TALK TO HIM AND MAKE SURE THAT WE -- WE
09:36:10AM OVERCOME HIS OBJECTIONS.
09:36:12AM BUT I THINK IF THERE IS -- IF THERE IS A BIG AMOUNT OF
09:36:15AM MONEY, WE SHOULD HAVE A BETTER NEGOTIATING POSITION WITH THE
09:36:18AM COUNTY.
09:36:18AM I THINK YOU ARE LOOKING TO SET UP, LIKE, A 50-YEAR BUDGET OR
09:36:22AM 100-YEAR BUDGET SHOULDN'T BE THAT THEY TURN OVER THE ROAD
09:36:25AM AND GIVE US A BUDGET TO MANAGE IT.
09:36:27AM WE SET OUR OWN PRIORITIES WHERE TO PUT OUR STREETLIGHTS AND
09:36:31AM FOUR-WAY STOPS, ETC.
09:36:33AM I THINK -- LET'S NOT JUST LOOK AT ROADS IF YOU FIGURE OUT
09:36:37AM THAT LONG-TERM BUDGET, LET'S GRAB IT AND SEE IF WE CAN
09:36:41AM ADVOCATE FOR IT.
09:36:42AM IF YOU ALL NEED OUR HELP, LET US KNOW.
09:36:45AM I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER COHEN ON THAT BAY TO
09:36:49AM BAY BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO IT.
09:36:52AM OTHER THING IS VI KNOWS IN SOUTH TAMPA, WE HAD A LOT OF
09:36:58AM PROBLEMS WITH STATE, COUNTY AND PRIVATE CONTRACTORS AND ALL
09:37:01AM OTHERS WORKING THE SAME AREA AT THE SAME TIME.
09:37:05AM JUST LIKE CARMAGEDDON A FEW YEARS AGO, SOUTH OF GANDY,
09:37:11AM PEOPLE ARE ANGRY THEY CAN'T GET TO AND FROM THEIR HOUSES AT
09:37:15AM PEAK DRIVE TIMES.
09:37:15AM UP KNOW YOU ALL ARE TRYING, BUT IF YOU CAN TRY EVEN HARDER
09:37:20AM WHEN WE DO THIS.
09:37:21AM COORDINATE WITH ALL THE AGENCIES TO ENABLE PEOPLE TO GET IN
09:37:24AM AND OUT.
09:37:25AM PEOPLE WANT THESE ROADS IS TO BE FIXED AS QUICKLY AS
09:37:28AM POSSIBLE AND THEY WANT TO GET OUT OF THEIR STREETS AND THE
09:37:31AM LAST THING IS THAT WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT -- I SAID THIS
09:37:34AM DURING THE BUDGETING PROCESS.
09:37:35AM BUT IT LOOKS LIKE CONSIDERING THE POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT
09:37:40AM RIGHT NOW, LOOKS LIKE TRANSPORTATION OR WHATEVER THE NEXT
09:37:44AM VERSION IS NOT COMING IN THE NEXT FIVE TO TEN YEARS.
09:37:47AM AT LEAST FOUR YEARS.
09:37:48AM THE COUNTY COMMISSION AS IT SITS RIGHT NOW WILL NOT PUT IT
09:37:51AM ON THE BALLOT.
09:37:51AM THE STATE LAW WILL NOT CHANGE TO LET US PUT IT IN THE CITY.
09:37:55AM I DON'T THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA ANYWAY.
09:37:57AM WE CAN -- FOLKS CAN ADVOCATE FOR IT, BUT WE HAVE TO -- I
09:38:01AM THINK WE, AS A CITY, HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO BUDGET
09:38:04AM WITHOUT THAT.
09:38:04AM WE CAN'T -- WE CAN'T RELY ON IT.
09:38:07AM I THINK OUR BUDGET HAS GONE UP IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AND I
09:38:11AM UNDERSTAND THE RESTRICTION WHERE IS MONEY COME FROM AND NEED
09:38:14AM MORE THAN A $4 MILLION TO $5 MILLION BUDGET FOR ROAD REPAIR.
09:38:20AM THE NEXT BUDGETING PROCESS, I WILL BE ALLOCATING FOR THAT.
09:38:23AM MISS DUNCAN, YOU AND VIK AND EVERYBODY ARE TRYING TO SOLVE
09:38:27AM THESE PROBLEMS BUT I HOPE YOU WILL BE ADVOCATE AT THE BUDGET
09:38:31AM NEGOTIATING TABLE TO SAY WE REALLY NEED TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC
09:38:34AM CONCERNS.
09:38:34AM THIS AND CRIME ARE THE TWO BIGGEST ISSUES OUT THERE RIGHT
09:38:37AM NOW.
09:38:38AM THANK YOU.
09:38:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:38:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:38:43AM WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY, I AM REMINDED BY MISS
09:38:46AM NOREEN COPELAND WHO CALLS ME ABOUT HER SIDEWALK.
09:38:53AM IF WE GET THIS MONEY, DO SIDEWALK AND ROAD REPAIR.
09:38:57AM I AM AN ADVOCATE OF THE STREETCAR AND NOT MY BIGGEST
09:39:02AM PRIORITY BECAUSE IT IS A PROJECT.
09:39:04AM IT IS DESIGNED FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
09:39:06AM TAMPA HEIGHTS, WHICH IS IN MY DISTRICT AS WELL.
09:39:10AM I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT THOSE THINGS WHEN THEY COME ABROAD WHEN
09:39:13AM WE HAVE THE MONEY AND FUNDS TO DO THEM.
09:39:15AM BUT THERE ARE BIGGER PRIORITIES.
09:39:16AM I WANT THAT MONEY TO MAKE SURE IT IS GOING TO SIDEWALKS
09:39:20AM IMMEDIATELY.
09:39:20AM SIDEWALK IN SOHO IS PATHETIC.
09:39:26AM THE ROAD REPAIR IS LOW.
09:39:29AM AND I WILL BE LOOKING FOR THE FUNDS GO TO ROAD REPAIR AND
09:39:33AM DEFINITELY SIDEWALKS IN COMMUNITIES.
09:39:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:39:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:39:38AM THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY WHEN YOU
09:39:41AM LOOK AT IT, YOU LOOK AT THE NEEDS AND PUT THE MONEY TO IT.
09:39:46AM WHAT I HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE AND WHAT I SEE FROM THE STREETS,
09:39:51AM THE ROADS ARE IN BAD SHAPE.
09:39:54AM VERY BAD SHAPE.
09:39:55AM BECAUSE WE NEGLECTED SOME OF THAT BECAUSE OF VARIOUS THINGS.
09:39:58AM FIRST OF ALL, THE PATCH PROGRAM.
09:40:00AM YOU CAN'T BREAK UP A STREET.
09:40:01AM PAVE A STREET.
09:40:03AM BREAK IT UP TO PUT THE PIPES IN.
09:40:05AM YOU HAVE TO WAIT AND WAIT FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD AND NOT A
09:40:09AM ONE OR TWO-YEAR PROGRAM.
09:40:10AM A 15 OR 20-YEAR PROGRAM TO CONTINUE TO FINISH THE WHOLE
09:40:16AM CITY.
09:40:16AM YOU HAVE TO DO A MONUMENTAL TASK TO FIX ALL THE PIPE IN THE
09:40:21AM CITY THIS SIZE, 4,000 MILES OF PIPING UNDER THE CITY AND
09:40:25AM VERY DIFFICULT TO DO THAT.
09:40:26AM HOWEVER, THAT BEING SAID, ALONG WITH THE STREETS COME THE
09:40:34AM LIGHTING OF TRAFFIC SIGNALIZATION.
09:40:37AM I GUESS THEY ARE FINE WHEN THEY WERE PUT IN AT THE TIME THEY
09:40:41AM WERE PUT IN, BUT NOW A MUCH MORE POPULATION IN THE CITY,
09:40:44AM MEANING THERE IS MUCH MORE, WHAT, AUTOMOBILES IN THE CITY.
09:40:48AM MEANING THAT, WHAT, THE LIGHTS WE PUT IN 20 YEARS AGO, THE
09:40:53AM SIGNALIZATION PROCESS -- UNLESS IT HAS BEEN UPDATED THAT I
09:40:57AM DON'T KNOW ABOUT, IT IS OUTDATED.
09:40:59AM THEY DON'T TELL YOU.
09:41:01AM CROSSSECTION WHERE ONE SECTION GIVES YOU A LEFT TURN.
09:41:05AM AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EAST-NORTHWEST SIDE, YOU CAN'T
09:41:12AM TURN.
09:41:12AM NO SIGNALIZATION FOR YOU.
09:41:14AM THE LIGHT IS A HINDRANCE OF THE MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC RIGHT
09:41:18AM HERE ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
09:41:19AM YEAR AGO YOU COULD MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN WITHOUT LOOKING TO
09:41:22AM THE RIGHT BECAUSE NO TRAFFIC.
09:41:24AM TODAY YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE TRAFFIC LIGHT CHANGES TO
09:41:27AM MAKE A LEFT; HOWEVER, YOU CAN ONLY GO 40 TO 60 FEET BECAUSE
09:41:32AM TRAFFIC COMING FROM EAST TO WEST ON KENNEDY.
09:41:34AM YOU CAN'T MAKE A LEFT-HAND TURN.
09:41:36AM IT IS FOR REAL.
09:41:37AM AND NOT ONLY FOR US -- I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT ME.
09:41:41AM I AM TALKING OF THE GENERAL POPULATION.
09:41:44AM SO TO MAKE A LEFT, TO MAKE ANOTHER LEFT AND NOT COURT -- I
09:41:48AM DON'T BELIEVE IT IS COORDINATED AND MAY BE AND THE ABUNDANCE
09:41:52AM OF TRAFFIC DO NOT MOVE.
09:41:54AM THE VENUES IN DOWNTOWN AND IN THE CITY BECAUSE OF
09:41:57AM INDIVIDUALS WANTING TO SEE THINGS, IT'S ENORMOUS, ESPECIALLY
09:42:02AM IN THE EVENING.
09:42:02AM SOUTH OF US, THERE IS AN EVENT, A SPORTING EVENT, WONDERFUL,
09:42:10AM FANTASTIC.
09:42:11AM THE BOLTS ARE DOING GREAT, THE LIGHTNING.
09:42:16AM HOWEVER, THE TRAFFIC HAS TO BE AUGMENTED TO HELP THE PEOPLE
09:42:21AM TRYING TO GET HOME OR COME FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THE
09:42:23AM BOTTLENECK IS FANTASTIC AND SHOWS PROSPERITY IN A WAY.
09:42:28AM MY GOD, WHAT AM I DOING?
09:42:30AM I CAN'T GET HOME.
09:42:31AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT JUST YESTERDAY, I WAS HEADED TO
09:42:34AM SEE SOMEONE IN HILLSBOROUGH AND HABANA.
09:42:37AM WHEN I GOT TO OSBORNE, I COULDN'T MAKE A RIGHT-HAND TURN
09:42:42AM BECAUSE IT IS A VERY POPULAR SCHOOL.
09:42:44AM AND ONE LANE TAKEN COMPLETELY FOR ABOUT A BLOCK OR TWO
09:42:48AM BLOCKS.
09:42:48AM I TRIED TO GO AROUND.
09:42:49AM WHEN I TRIED TO GO AROUND, THERE WAS A CAR COMING ON THE
09:42:52AM OTHER SIDE.
09:42:53AM WHICH IS FINE.
09:42:54AM I HAD TO GO -- BUT WHAT I DID NOT KNOW WHEN I WAS LEAVING
09:42:58AM FROM THE OTHER SIDE, IT IS THE SAME THING ON THE OTHER SIDE.
09:43:03AM THE TRAFFIC IS NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT DOING -- THEY ARE
09:43:07AM DOING THE RIGHT THING.
09:43:08AM THEY ARE MAKING GOOD EDUCATION FOR STUDENTS GOING OUT OF
09:43:11AM CLASS AND THAT IS WHY PARENTS WANT TO TAKE THEM TO THE
09:43:14AM SCHOOL, BUT WE WERE NEVER PREPARED TO DO THAT.
09:43:18AM I AM SAYING NOT AGAINST THE SCHOOL BUT BRINGING IT UP IN
09:43:21AM CONVERSATION.
09:43:21AM WE MUST PLAN DIFFERENTLY FOR THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT IS
09:43:25AM GRIDLOCK EVERY PARTS OF THE CITY.
09:43:26AM AND WHEN I HEAR YOU DON'T NEED ANY PARKING.
09:43:30AM I GOT NEWS FOR YOU.
09:43:31AM GO CHECK THE HIGH SCHOOLS.
09:43:34AM ALL OF THEM.
09:43:35AM CHECK THEIR PARKING LOT.
09:43:36AM MILLENIALS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE RIDING BICYCLES.
09:43:43AM THE MILLENNIALS I KNOW RIDE CARS.
09:43:46AM I AM NOT SAYING THEY DON'T RIDE BICYCLES.
09:43:49AM TRAFFIC IS MORE AND MORE AND YOUNG PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN AND
09:43:52AM THEY LIKE TAMPA THE ONES THAT LIVE DOWNTOWN, THEY CAN HAVE
09:43:55AM THEIR SERVICES GIVEN TO THEM BY WALKING WHICH IS FINE.
09:43:58AM WHEN WE WERE YOUNG IN YBOR CITY, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO
09:44:01AM ANYWHERE.
09:44:02AM WE HAD A GROCERY STORE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:44:04AM TWO OR THREE NEARBY.
09:44:05AM THERE WERE SMALL BUT SERVED YOUR NEEDS.
09:44:07AM AND NOW EVERYTHING IS GIGANTIC.
09:44:10AM WONDERFUL FOR EVERYONE.
09:44:11AM BUT SORRY FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO GET IN AND OUT AND GO
09:44:17AM SOMEWHERE ON TIME.
09:44:18AM YOU HAVE TO TIME IT HOUR AND A HALF EARLY.
09:44:20AM THESE ARE THE THINGS I SEE.
09:44:21AM I AM NOT THE STREETCAR.
09:44:23AM I WAS HERE WHEN WE PUT IT IN.
09:44:24AM AND IT HAS DONE WONDERFUL.
09:44:26AM IT HAS MOVED -- I BELIEVE I SAW IT THIS MORNING ON
09:44:29AM TELEVISION, 100,000 -- 180,000 PEOPLE LAST MONTH AND THE
09:44:34AM BIGGEST MONTH THEY EVER HAD.
09:44:35AM IT IS CATCHING ON.
09:44:37AM BUT AT WHAT PRICE?
09:44:39AM FOR THE GENERAL POPULATION.
09:44:41AM THOSE WHO ARE NOT USING IT.
09:44:43AM SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BALANCE TO SATISFY EVERYONE.
09:44:45AM SO THAT'S WHERE I AM AT.
09:44:47AM I AM NOT OPPOSED TO ANYTHING I HAVE HEARD BUT WE MUST SPEND
09:44:52AM THIS MONEY.WISELY.
09:44:53AM NOT PUT IT ON ONE PROJECT AND FORGET ABOUT THE OTHERS.
09:44:57AM WE NEED TO HELP EVERYONE WITH THE MONEY WE HAVE.
09:44:59AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:45:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --
09:45:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: VIERA.
09:45:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: VIERA.
09:45:05AM BUSCI JUST HEARD COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:45:08AM SORRY.
09:45:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO WORRIES.
09:45:10AM SOMETIMES WHEN I DON'T WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, I SAY DON'T
09:45:13AM SAY X, DON'T SAY X.
09:45:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: APOLOGIZE.
09:45:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T CARE.
09:45:19AM YOU ARE COOL.
09:45:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: CALL PARK CHAIR.
09:45:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
09:45:25AM A LOT OF SENTIMENTS UP HERE.
09:45:27AM THE OVERALL NARRATIVE AND I TEND TO BLOCK BACK THIS, THE
09:45:32AM VAST MAJORITY 90% SHOULD GO TO THE BASIC NEEDS.
09:45:35AM THE STREETCAR IS A WONDERFUL THING AND CHAIRMAN CITRO HAVE
09:45:39AM PROPOSED SOME THINGS IN THE CRA TO LOOK AT.
09:45:42AM WE HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY AND 90% OF THAT SHOULD GO
09:45:45AM TO ROAD REPAIRS AND THE BASICS AND WHATNOT.
09:45:48AM MY DISTRICT, NEW TAMPA BOULEVARD IS A BIG ISSUE AND 30th
09:45:52AM STREET NEAR BUSCH GARDENS AND FIRE STATION 13 FOR TAMPA
09:45:57AM POLICE DEPARTMENT DISTRICT 2 A ROAD IN VERY, VERY BAD
09:46:00AM CONDITIONS.
09:46:00AM YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T FORGET -- AGAIN, THE URBAN CORE IS VERY
09:46:04AM IMPORTANT.
09:46:04AM DOWNTOWN IS VERY IMPORTANT.
09:46:05AM I SUPPORTED A DOWNTOWN CRA.
09:46:07AM WE ARE NOT FINISHED WITH DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT, ETC.
09:46:11AM ON THESE FUNDS, EQUITABLE BALANCE.
09:46:15AM I HAVE NO PROBLEMS SHIFTING THE FUNDS TO THE STREETCAR, BUT
09:46:18AM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMONSENSE DICTATES THAT THE VAST MAJORITY,
09:46:22AM 90% GOES TO THINGS LIKE REPAVING.
09:46:24AM I SUPPORT THE SENTIMENTS UP HERE.
09:46:27AM THANK YOU.
09:46:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE FINISHED.
09:46:31AM MISS DUNCAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN I PROPOSED THE
09:46:35AM EXTENSION OF THE STREETCAR, IT WAS MEANT TO BE USED THAT
09:46:39AM MATCHING FUNDS THROUGH CRA DOLLARS.
09:46:47AM MR. BHIDE, MYSELF AND NICOLE TRAVIS HAS BEEN TALKING
09:46:52AM EXTENSIVELY AND I FEEL IS THAT SOME OF THE CRA DOLLARS FROM
09:46:57AM THE FOUR CRAs COULD BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS.
09:47:00AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:47:02AM MAYBE EVEN A FIRE STATION.
09:47:03AM AND, AGAIN, MR. BHIDE, NICOLE, AND I HAVE COME UP WITH A
09:47:08AM DIFFERENT OPTION TO THAT.
09:47:09AM SO LATER ON, I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION TO NOT HAVE THE
09:47:13AM DISCUSSION IN MARCH AND TO TALK ABOUT IT HOPEFULLY AT THE
09:47:18AM NEXT CRA MEETING.
09:47:20AM I AGREE WITH A LOT OF THE COUNCILMEN HERE.
09:47:24AM WE HAVE WORKED HARD ON GETTING SIDEWALKS.
09:47:27AM AND ESPECIALLY AROUND SCHOOLS.
09:47:29AM WE HAVE CHILDREN IN THIS CITY THAT HAVE TO WALK IN THE
09:47:32AM STREETS TO GET TO SCHOOLS.
09:47:35AM THAT IS -- THAT IS -- THAT IS UNHEARD OF.
09:47:38AM THAT IS NOT CORRECT.
09:47:40AM THAT IS NOT RIGHT.
09:47:42AM SO A BETTER PATHWAY FOR SCHOOLS HAVING SIDEWALKS WHERE
09:47:45AM CHILDREN CAN WALK TO SCHOOL.
09:47:47AM BECAUSE TALLAHASSEE HAS FORCED OUR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
09:47:50AM SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT IF A CHILD LIVES WITHIN TWO MILES OF THE
09:47:54AM SCHOOL, THEY CAN NOT BE BUSED.
09:47:57AM SIDEWALKS ARE ESSENTIAL.
09:47:59AM ONLY 19% OF THE ROADS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA BELONG TO THE
09:48:04AM CITY OF TAMPA.
09:48:05AM THE REST ARE COUNTY OR STATE ROADS.
09:48:08AM I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THOSE ROADS OVER, BUT NOT UNLESS THEY
09:48:14AM ARE REPAVED.
09:48:16AM WE ARE CUSTODIANS OF THOSE ROADS.
09:48:22AM WE TAKE CARE OF THEM; HOWEVER, THE COUNTY HAS TO PAY US FOR
09:48:26AM THAT TYPE OF REPAVING.
09:48:28AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S POINT.
09:48:29AM WE HAVE THE PIPES PROJECT.
09:48:31AM WHY HAVE THEM REPAVED NOW IF THEY HAVE TO BE TORN UP TO DO
09:48:35AM THE PIPES PROJECT.
09:48:36AM SO I WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNTY, WITH ALL THIS -- ALL THE
09:48:40AM TRANSPORTATION MONEY COMING IN TO AT LEAST GIVE US THE FUND
09:48:43AM TO REPAVE THOSE ROADS AFTER THE PIPES PROJECT IS DONE SO WE
09:48:51AM CAN HAVE THOSE FUNDS TO REPAVE THE ROADS.
09:48:53AM WE ARE TALKING HOWARD ARMENIA.
09:48:55AM WE ARE TALKING WEST SHORE.
09:48:56AM WE ARE TALKING KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
09:48:57AM WE ARE TALKING COLUMBUS.
09:48:59AM THESE ARE ALL COUNTY ROADS.
09:49:10AM EACH COUNCILMEMBER GETS CALLS THAT SAY REPAIR OUR ROADS.
09:49:15AM I HOPE THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS LISTEN TO WHAT WE ARE
09:49:18AM SAYING.
09:49:18AM WE NEED YOUR ROADS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA LIMITS REPAVED.
09:49:22AM COUNCILMEMBERS, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER?
09:49:25AM THANK YOU, MISS DUNCAN, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE AGENDA ITEM
09:49:28AM NUMBER 8 AT THIS TIME?
09:49:30AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
09:49:30AM IF IT WOULD --
09:49:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM -- I APOLOGIZE.
09:49:37AM IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO DISCUSS AGENDA
09:49:48AM ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:49:49AM MISS POYNOR.
09:49:51AM >> A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
09:49:59AM I AM NOT AGAINST THE TROLLEY AND DOESN'T SERVICE THE ENTIRE
09:50:02AM CITY.
09:50:02AM THE MONEY IS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, SORRY, NOT STORY SORRY.
09:50:07AM MOBILITY SHOULD PROVIDE A LIST OF WHICH HAVE ROADS ARE IN
09:50:12AM THE WORSE CONDITIONS AND WE CAN MAKE A PRIORITY LIST FROM
09:50:14AM THERE.
09:50:14AM WE CAN MAKE A PRIORITY LIST FROM THE MOBILITY.
09:50:18AM I PERSONALLY THINK THAT VIK BHIDE IS THE MOST DATA-DRIVEN
09:50:23AM GUY YOU GOT.
09:50:24AM AND HE PROBABLY CAN WHIP OUT A LIST VERY QUICKLY OF WHAT
09:50:27AM NEEDS TO BE REPAIRED AND THEN WE NEED TO GO TO SIDEWALKS.
09:50:34AM OUR SIDEWALK BUDGET IS LESS THAN $100 MILLION.
09:50:37AM THE BOTTOM LINE IF YOU GAVE HIM $5 MILLION.
09:50:41AM IT WILL BE FIVE YEARS WORTH OF FUNDING AND A VERY SMALL
09:50:44AM PERCENT OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
09:50:46AM EQUITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT.
09:50:49AM YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS AT THE HOUSING TASK FORCE MEETING AT
09:50:52AM MacDILL, THEY HAVE UNDER THE NUMBERS TO 24,000 PEOPLE WILL
09:50:57AM STILL BE SERVICED BY THEIR CLINIC, YOU CAN IMAGINE -- THAT
09:51:01AM IS IF THEY ONLY TOOK ACTIVE-DUTY MEMBERS, OKAY.
09:51:05AM IMAGINE ALL THE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT COME TO AND IN FRO
09:51:10AM MacDILL AS PART OF THAT.
09:51:11AM THEY ARE RUNNING OVER THE ROADS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
09:51:14AM THE FERRY.
09:51:15AM WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT.
09:51:16AM THE WORK IN INTERBAY.
09:51:18AM I ONLY TALK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I CARE THE MOST
09:51:22AM ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD BUT I KNOW THE DATA FROM MY
09:51:25AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:51:25AM IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, I AM SURE EACH ONE OF YOU HAVE PROJECT
09:51:28AM WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED JUST THE SAME
09:51:31AM AS WE DO SOUTH OF GANDY.
09:51:35AM BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT MR. BHIDE HAS JUST LIKE A WISH
09:51:40AM LIST.
09:51:40AM LIKE AMAZON.
09:51:41AM LET'S LOOK AT WHAT HE WANTS AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THE
09:51:44AM PRIORITIES LIE.
09:51:45AM BUT I AM SORRY, $100 MILLION FOR A TROLLEY THAT -- THAT
09:51:50AM GENERATES ZERO REVENUE, NO MONEY.
09:51:53AM IT MAKES NO MONEY.
09:51:54AM IT ONLY COSTS MONEY TO RUN MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
09:51:58AM IF WE CAN GET MATCHING DOLLARS, I AM OKAY WITH THE
09:52:03AM PERCENTAGE OF IT, BUT NOT ALL OF IT FOR CERTAIN.
09:52:05AM BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY CAN
09:52:10AM MAKE MONEY WHILE THEY ARE -- WHILE THEY ARE SPENDING MONEY,
09:52:12AM THAT IS THE SMARTEST WAY TO GO.
09:52:14AM THANK YOU.
09:52:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:52:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, KEELA McCASKILL.
09:52:22AM I ECHO WHAT SOME OF ALL OF YOU HAVE STAYED.
09:52:25AM REMEMBERING THAT A PART OF THE -- WHEN I WAS INVOLVED WITH
09:52:28AM TRANSPORTATION, THE BIG PIECE OF THAT WAS, OF COURSE -- I
09:52:32AM HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE STREETCAR.
09:52:34AM I ACTUALLY USE IT AND I LIKE IT, BUT, AGAIN, NOT THE BIGGEST
09:52:38AM CONCERN THAT WE HAVE.
09:52:39AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAD YOU PRETTY MUCH TOUCH ON WAS
09:52:42AM SAFETY.
09:52:42AM MINIMIZING SOME OF THE PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS AND/OR DEATHS AS
09:52:46AM THEY ARE TRAVELLING TO SCHOOL AND OR THE LOCAL PARK
09:52:48AM SOME OF THOSE ACCIDENT-PRONE INTERSECTIONS HAD THAT ARE
09:52:52AM IDENTIFIED IN THAT VISION ZERO ACTION PLAN.
09:52:54AM IDENTIFY KEY STREETS THAT ARE PRONE TO ACCIDENTS.
09:52:57AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ADDRESS SOME OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS.
09:52:59AM YOU ALREADY SAID SIDEWALKS.
09:53:00AM YOU ALREADY SAID TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND ROAD REPAIR.
09:53:05AM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT FITS
09:53:10AM IN THERE FOR NOT IS HART.
09:53:13AM FOR HARTLINE.
09:53:14AM THEY MENTIONED THEIR BUDGET WAS LIMITED.
09:53:16AM I DON'T KNOW IF THE MONIES CAN BE CONTRIBUTED TO HART STILL,
09:53:20AM BUT CONTRIBUTES TO MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES.
09:53:23AM HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY HAVE ACCESS TO TRANSMIT THE TO
09:53:27AM HIGH-WAGE EARNINGS JOBS.
09:53:28AM I WAS ONE OF THOSE KIDS THAT RELIED ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
09:53:32AM WHEN I WAS YOUNG -- JUST TURNED 18 AND ABLE TO LAND A JOB
09:53:36AM FAR AWAY FROM WHERE I LIVE AND I WAS RELYING ON PUBLIC
09:53:40AM TRANSPORTATION.
09:53:41AM IF HART CUTS THAT BUDGET, THAT MINIMIZES OPPORTUNITIES FOR
09:53:45AM PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
09:53:47AM ANOTHER THING I WANT TO SAY IS, HOW ARE YOUR CONCERNS
09:53:50AM ENFORCED?
09:53:50AM I HEAR YOU SAYING WHAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE, BUT I WANT TO
09:53:54AM KNOW HOW THEY CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
09:53:57AM FUNDS ARE USED AS WE ARE SAYING TODAY.
09:54:00AM WE KNOW SAFETY AND ACCESS TO JOBS AND TRANSPORTATION.
09:54:03AM HOW WAS THIS ENFORCED.
09:54:04AM I DON'T KNOW.
09:54:05AM I HAVEN'T EVER BEEN THIS TO AT THIS POINT OF WORKSHOP TO
09:54:10AM MAKE SURE THEY ARE ACCOUNTABLE THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING GOES
09:54:13AM IN THE SYSTEM.
09:54:13AM A LOT OF TIME IF COMES BACK AND A CIRCLE.
09:54:16AM WE NEVER GET THE RESULTS AND GOING OVER AND SAYING THE SAME
09:54:19AM THING AGAIN.
09:54:20AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS ENFORCED TO MAKE SURE THOSE DOLLARS
09:54:23AM ARE BEING SPENT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.
09:54:25AM THANK YOU.
09:54:25AM >> TAYLOR RALPH, 3707 WEST SAN JUAN.
09:54:35AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON A DIFFERENT ISSUE BUT AS YOU KNOW I AM
09:54:39AM VERY INVOLVED IN STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS AND MOBILITY AND
09:54:43AM THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:54:43AM I FIGURED I WOULD SPEAK.
09:54:44AM OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE DISCUSSING WHERE THE FUNDING SHOULD GO.
09:54:47AM I WOULD ARGUE EVERYTHING THAT STEPHANIE IS DOING AMAZING.
09:54:50AM I LOVE IT.
09:54:51AM BUT THE STREETCAR DOES HELP THE REST OF OUR CITY BECAUSE
09:54:56AM 118,000 PEOPLE THAT USE IT LAST MONTH DON'T HAVE TO RECENT
09:55:00AM CAR AND DRIVE ON OUR ROADS.
09:55:01AM THIS HE CAN GO TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND THEY CAN GET AROUND TO
09:55:03AM YBOR, TO TAMPA HEIGHTS, ON THE STREETCAR.
09:55:06AM THEY CAN WALK.
09:55:07AM THEY CAN BIKE.
09:55:08AM WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE IN DOWNTOWN.
09:55:10AM YESTERDAY I WAS AT THE PROTECTED BIKE LANE EXPANSION ON KASS
09:55:14AM STREET THAT ACTUALLY FINALLY CONNECTED THE TWO ENDS OF A
09:55:17AM PROTECTED BIKE LANE.
09:55:18AM WHICH WHY AREN'T WE FILLING THOSE THINGS IN COMPLETELY.
09:55:22AM YOU HAVE TO RIDE IN NORTH HYDE PARK ON A BIKE AND STOP AT
09:55:26AM THE KASS STREET BRIDGE AND HAVE AN INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS
09:55:29AM SECTION AND THEN GO TO THE OTHER SIDE.
09:55:30AM WE NEED TO BE CONNECTING THESE THINGS AND MAKE THEM TRULY
09:55:34AM USABLE.
09:55:34AM A STREETCAR IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT TRULY BENEFITS
09:55:38AM OUR COMMUNITY IN SO MANY DIFFERENCE WAYS.
09:55:40AM PAVING INTERBAY OR PAVING WEST SHORE ONLY HELP PEOPLE ALONG
09:55:46AM THAT ROAD TOO, BUT A VERY EASY THING TO POINT OUT AND SAY
09:55:50AM THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
09:55:51AM MULTITRANSIT OPTIONS, ALTERNATIVE TRANSIT, WALKING, TRANSIT.
09:55:57AM THE STREETCAR IS TURNING INTO SOMETHING THAT CAN BE SO MUCH
09:56:00AM MORE BENEFICIAL TO OUR COMMUNITY WITH VEHICLE EMISSIONS,
09:56:04AM NOISE, MAINTENANCE ON OUR ROADS, CONGESTION.
09:56:06AM ETC., ETC., ETC.
09:56:08AM PEOPLE WANT TO GO ON TRIPS AND GO DOWNTOWN AND WALK
09:56:11AM EVERYWHERE.
09:56:11AM THEY DON'T WANT TO THE EXPENSE OF A CAR.
09:56:14AM THEY DON'T WANT TO WORRY ABOUT HOW TO GET FROM POINT A TO
09:56:19AM POINT B.
09:56:20AM IF THEY CAN WALK AND RIDE THE TROLLEY AN ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR
09:56:23AM OUR COMMUNITY OPINION I APPRECIATE AND I AGREE WE NEED TO
09:56:26AM PAVE THE ROADS AND STRATEGIZE WHAT THE PRIORITIES ARE.
09:56:29AM WE NEED TO DO IT ONCE RATHER THAN TWICE AND THINK ABOUT HOW
09:56:33AM THE BIKE LANES NOT ONLY PROVIDE ACCESS TO ARE BICYCLISTS BUT
09:56:37AM PROTECT PEOPLE WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK AND HELP SLOW DOWN
09:56:40AM CARS AND HELP PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO NOT EVEN
09:56:43AM GET IN THEIR CAR.
09:56:44AM AND NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT BECAUSE WE PUT IN ONE BIKE
09:56:48AM LANE.
09:56:48AM IF WE ARE DOING THIS AS A NETWORKED SOLUTION GOING FROM
09:56:52AM MEANINGFUL PLACES TO MEANINGFUL PLACES AND REQUIRE GOOD
09:56:56AM INVESTMENT AROUND THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WE ARE INVESTING IN,
09:57:00AM THE ROI FOR THE CITY IS ENORMOUS.
09:57:04AM I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE HAVE TRACKING HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL
09:57:09AM BIKE ALL THE WAY TO YBOR.
09:57:10AM HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE BIKING BEFORE AND AFTER.
09:57:14AM HOW MUCH DEVELOPMENT IS GOING ON AROUND THE RIVERWALK AND
09:57:18AM HOW MANY PROPERTY TAXES AND SALES TAXES PAID AROUND THE
09:57:22AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
09:57:22AM BECAUSE GUESS WHAT, THE CITY IS MAKING A LOT OF MONEY OF
09:57:25AM PUTTING IN REAL HIGH-QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW WE NEED
09:57:28AM TO THINK OF THAT.
09:57:28AM THE RETURN OF INVESTMENT ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS.
09:57:32AM THANK YOU.
09:57:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:57:34AM ANYONE ELSE?
09:57:37AM MISS DUNCAN, I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT
09:57:42AM MISS McCASKILL HAS A SOLID POINT.
09:57:49AM CAN YOU EXPLAIN FOR THE VIEWERS HOW THIS WILL WORK FROM OUR
09:57:52AM THOUGHTS AND IDEAS OF HOW ALL THIS TRANSPORTATION MONEY IS
09:57:56AM GOING TO BE SPENT, AND HOW DO WE GET THAT TO TALLAHASSEE?
09:58:00AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SO AS I MENTIONED WE ARE WORK WITH THE
09:58:04AM COUNTY.
09:58:04AM I WILL SEND THE LIST OUT TODAY WE HAD FOR SOME TIME THAT IS
09:58:09AM ESSENTIALLY BOILS DOWN TO RESURFACING IN THE STREETCAR.
09:58:12AM BROKEN INTO SECTIONS OF CORRIDORS AND SIDEWALKS AND SO
09:58:17AM FORTH, BUT THE OVERARCHING COMPONENT OF THOSE ARE A
09:58:21AM RESURFACING PIECE.
09:58:22AM WE CAN CERTAINLY SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
09:58:24AM WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT PUBLICLY BEFORE IT
09:58:28AM GOES OVER TO THE COUNTY, BUT IT IS THE SAME LIST THAT WE
09:58:31AM HAVE BEEN REFERRING TO NOT RECENTLY, OF COURSE, BUT THAT WAS
09:58:35AM -- THAT WITH AS REVIEWED BY THE IOC WHEN WE THOUGHT WE WERE
09:58:38AM GETTING THE PENNY.
09:58:40AM AND WENT THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESSES, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN
09:58:43AM WE CAN'T REFRESH ON IT AND REVISIT IT BEFORE IT GOES TO THE
09:58:47AM COUNTY.
09:58:47AM IN TERMS OF TRACKING WHAT WE ARE DOING ONCE WE GET THE
09:58:51AM MONEY, THE MONEY WOULD COME TO THE CITY'S REVENUE AND
09:58:54AM FINANCE GROUP.
09:58:55AM THAT MONEY WILL BE APPROPRIATED WITHIN THE CAPITAL PROGRAM
09:58:58AM FOR THOSE PARTICULAR USES.
09:58:59AM AND SO THAT IS SORT OF YOUR TRACKING OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT
09:59:05AM THIS CATEGORY HAS THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY AND SO FORTH AND WE
09:59:09AM CAN SHOW WE ARE SPENDING THOSE MONIES WHERE WE WANT TO SPEND
09:59:12AM THEM AND WHERE WE SHOULD SPEND THEM.
09:59:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. BHIDE, I SEE YOUR HAND GO UP?
09:59:19AM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
09:59:21AM I WANT TO AUGMENT WHAT JEAN IS SAYING.
09:59:23AM THERE IS UNCERTAINTY AS TO THE PROCESS, SHOULDED MONIES
09:59:27AM BECOME AVAILABLE.
09:59:27AM THAT KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE PREVIOUS DECISION BY
09:59:32AM JUDGE BARBAS WHICH WAS THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE WILL
09:59:35AM ASK THE COUNTY FOR A PLAN, WHICH THEY HAVE, AND WE ARE IN
09:59:38AM THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THAT PLAN, BUT IT DOES GO BACK TO
09:59:43AM THE LEGISLATURE TO DETERMINE.
09:59:44AM I SEE MORRIS IS THERE.
09:59:46AM SO I WILL ASK HIM TO ADD TO THIS.
09:59:48AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WHAT VIK IS SAYING IS CORRECT.
09:59:52AM AFTER THE TRANSPORTATION TAX WAS STRUCK BY JUDGE BARBAS AND
09:59:57AM THE SUPREME COURT, THE MONEY -- ALL THE MONEY THAT WAS
10:00:01AM COLLECTED FOR THE TERM THAT WAS IN EFFECT WAS RETURNED TO
10:00:05AM TALLAHASSEE.
10:00:05AM THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE IS ASKING FOR INPUT HOW THAT MONEY
10:00:10AM MAY BE SPENT BUT THAT DECISION WILL BE ULTIMATELY MADE AT A
10:00:14AM HIGH LEVEL.
10:00:14AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH DISCRETIONS AT LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BUT
10:00:17AM THE HIGHER LEVEL MADE IN TALLAHASSEE BY THE STATE
10:00:21AM LEGISLATURE.
10:00:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:00:22AM MISS DUNCAN, DO YOU WANT TO DISCUSS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8 AT
10:00:26AM THIS TIME?
10:00:27AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, I APPRECIATE THE COUPLING OF THE TWO
10:00:31AM ITEMS TOGETHER.
10:00:32AM JEAN DUNCAN, DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND MO HE BUILT.
10:00:37AM IF GO TO THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE HERE.
10:00:40AM I WILL SPEAK ABOUT THIS, AND IF IT SUITS COUNCIL, I BELIEVE
10:00:44AM THAT THE CIP PRESENTATION WE ARE OFFERING WILL SORT OF FEED
10:00:47AM INTO MY SUGGESTION ON THIS ITEM OF THE $ODDS 20 MILLION.
10:00:51AM WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT THIS.
10:00:53AM THIS IS SORT OF A VISUAL OF THE CURRENT CIP BUDGET AND
10:00:57AM ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
10:01:00AM OBVIOUSLY, WE START OUT WITH A BUDGET, TWO HEARINGS AND
10:01:06AM ADOPTION.
10:01:07AM WE BRING TO YOU RESOLUTIONS FOR REIMBURSEMENTS THAT WE ARE
10:01:11AM GOING TO USE FOR FUNDING MECHANISM FOR PROJECTS, ANY
10:01:14AM CONTRACT THAT IS EXECUTED HAS TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR
10:01:17AM APPROVAL.
10:01:18AM THIS NEXT CIRCLE IS SOMETHING WE ARE GOING TO BE ADDING
10:01:21AM STARTING IN MAY.
10:01:22AM SO TODAY IS SORT OF A PEEK AT WHAT WE WILL BE BRINGING TO
10:01:27AM YOU IN MAY FOR RIGHT NOW ON A BIANNUAL BASIS.
10:01:31AM A BIANNUAL CIP PRESENTATION.
10:01:34AM WE WILL ACCOMPANY THAT WITH THE BIANNUAL PRODUCTION REPORT
10:01:40AM SIMILAR WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH STORMWATER WHEN WE SEND OUT
10:01:44AM THE STORMWATER QUARTERLY REPORT THAT WAS COUNCILMAN
10:01:49AM MARTINEZ'S SUGGESTION AT THAT TIME.
10:01:50AM IT HAS WORKED OUT WELL FOR US AND YOU.
10:01:53AM AND WE WANT THAT FOR OTHER STORMWATER PROJECTS.
10:01:56AM ONE ON ONE COUNCIL BRIEF.
10:01:58AM WE DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO OFFER DETAILS ON SPECIFIC THINGS
10:02:02AM YOU ARE INTERESTED IN OR THAT HAVE HIGH PROVEN PROFILE.
10:02:05AM .CORKS BOTH WAY.
10:02:07AM WE LOOK OUTS FOR THE BRIEFS AND LOOK FOR YOUR REQUEST FOR
10:02:11AM ONE ON ONE IF YOU THINK YOU ARE HEARING SOMETHING AND WANT
10:02:14AM TO HEAR MORE ABOUT IT.
10:02:15AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS GOING ON PROBABLY EVERY
10:02:17AM DAY OF THE WEEK ESPECIALLY MAYBE FRIDAYS.
10:02:19AM WE HAVE SOMEONE FROM OUR TEAM AT SOME SORT OF NEIGHBORHOOD
10:02:23AM ASSOCIATION MEETING.
10:02:24AM IF THEY ARE SPEAKING GENERALLY ABOUT THINGS OR SPEAKING
10:02:28AM ABOUT A PARTICULAR PROJECT.
10:02:29AM WE HAVE THE MIDYEAR BUDGET REVIEW THAT OUR REVENUE AND
10:02:32AM FINANCE TEAM DOES IN CONSTRUCTION WITH OUR CAPITAL PROGRAM.
10:02:37AM ANY MAJOR PROJECT THAT WE ARE DOING HAVE A PARTICULAR PUBLIC
10:02:42AM ENGAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE PROJECT THAT HAS A PR TEAM
10:02:46AM ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
10:02:46AM WE START THE CIRCLE OF LIFE AGAIN.
10:02:49AM SO THIS IS OUR PROCESS THAT WE FEEL IS TRANSPARENT AND
10:02:53AM ENGAGING IN TERMS OF GETTING CIP INFORMATION OUT TO OTHERS
10:02:57AM AND GETTING THAT FEEDBACK IN.
10:02:59AM THE MEETINGS THAT WE DO HAVE FOR THE PUBLIC AT THE
10:03:03AM ASSOCIATION MEETINGS AND FOR OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PLANS.
10:03:08AM WE ARE SEEKING THAT FROM THE PUBLIC.
10:03:11AM WE MODIFY OUR PROJECT BASED ON WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM THE
10:03:15AM PUBLIC.
10:03:16AM MY SUGGESTION FOR THE REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL PUBLIC HEARING
10:03:18AM FOR AN ITEM OVER $20 MILLION.
10:03:21AM AGAIN, IF WE WANT TO LAND ON THAT FINAL DECISION AFTER THIS
10:03:26AM NEXT PRESENTATION, BUT I WILL NOT ALWAYSAL DOLLAR LABEL THAT
10:03:32AM BRINGS SOMETHING TO THE HIGH LEVEL.
10:03:33AM THE MEDIAN AND SIDEWALK WORK WE DID AND THE SAFETY
10:03:36AM IMPROVEMENTS WE DID IN FRONT OF THE FRESH KITCHEN DOWN IN
10:03:39AM SOUTH TAMPA, DESOTO, MISSISSIPPI, A FIVE-LEGGED
10:03:44AM INTERSECTION.
10:03:44AM THAT TOOK US TWO YEARS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TO DO THAT
10:03:48AM PRINCE GEORGE AND ABOUT $100,000.
10:03:50AM SO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT ISN'T ALWAYS AN INDICATOR OF WHAT IS
10:03:54AM REALLY IMPORTANT.
10:03:56AM IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON
10:03:59AM SOMETHING, BUT NOT ALWAYS OF MOST INTEREST AND THE HIGHEST
10:04:03AM INTEREST.
10:04:03AM SO I BELIEVE IF WE HAVE ANOTHER WAY OF ENHANCE WHAT WE ARE
10:04:06AM DOING NOW THAT WOULD CAP COMMUTER ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE
10:04:10AM VERY CONCERNING OR VERY INTERESTING THAT THE PUBLIC MIGHT BE
10:04:17AM A BETTER ALTERNATIVE THAN GOING THAT ROUTE.
10:04:23AM WE CAN HEAR ABOUT THAT NOW OR WANT TO HEAR OF THE REST OF
10:04:27AM THE PRESENTATION AND HOW WE FEEL OF THE ITEM.
10:04:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SHOULD WE LISTEN TO THE REST OF THE
10:04:36AM PRESENTATION AND THEN ASK QUESTIONS.
10:04:37AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:38AM I WILL LET DENNIS SHARE A LITTLE BIT AND WE WILL CONTINUE
10:04:41AM ON.
10:04:42AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, DENNIS ROGERO,
10:04:52AM CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
10:04:52AM AND A REFRESH AND REMINDER OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
10:04:56AM PROGRAM BEFORE JEAN AND THE TEAM GETS INTO DETAILED
10:04:59AM PRESENTATIONS ABOUT PARTICULAR PROJECTS AS WE DID LAST YEAR
10:05:05AM AND AS WE WILL DO GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, BOTH SUMMARY AND
10:05:09AM VERY DETAILED INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE ON THE WEB SITE AS
10:05:12AM PART OF THAT OPEN GOV PROGRAM WE CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT.
10:05:17AM I WOULD LIKE TO JUST WALK US THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW THERE WE
10:05:27AM ARE.
10:05:27AM THAT IS THE TITLE PAGE THAT YOU WILL SEE WHEN YOU GO INTO
10:05:29AM OPEN GOV.
10:05:32AM AS YOU SEE A BROAD MACRO OVERVIEW OF THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL
10:05:36AM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND WE GET INTO HIGHLIGHTS.
10:05:39AM AGAIN, OVERALL, WHAT IS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND
10:05:41AM WHAT WE EXPECT TO HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
10:05:43AM SOME PROJECT PHOTOGRAPHS AGAIN TO GIVE THE READER, TO GIVE
10:05:50AM THE PUBLIC, TO GIVE YOU ALL A FEEL FOR WHAT WE ARE DOING.
10:05:53AM THE VARIOUS ELEMENTS THAT GO INTO A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
10:05:57AM PROGRAM, DESIGN, PERMITTING, LAND ACQUISITION, THINGS LIKE
10:06:01AM THAT, CONSTRUCTION.
10:06:02AM YOU WILL SEE -- AND THE READ CAN TAKE AS MUCH OR AS LITTLE
10:06:05AM FROM THIS AS THEY WOULD LIKE, IF THEY WANT TO DO A DEEP DIVE
10:06:09AM IN SOME OF THOSE THINGS, IT IS THERE FOR THEM.
10:06:11AM IT IS REALLY TRYING TO WALK AWAY GIVING THE READER AN IDEA
10:06:14AM OF THE VARIOUS PHASES AND VARIOUS ITEMS THAT GO INTO A
10:06:19AM LONG-TERM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
10:06:20AM AGAIN, SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF WHAT WE ARE DOING.
10:06:25AM AND THEN HERE IS WHERE WE START GETTING INTO VERY GREAT
10:06:28AM DETAIL.
10:06:29AM EACH OF THESE ON THE RIGHT IS A LINK TO EACH DEPARTMENT'S
10:06:33AM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT WE HAVE AS PART OF THE PLAN
10:06:40AM SO TAKING IT FROM A BROAD OVERVIEW AS I SAID DOWN TO A VERY
10:06:45AM DETAILED EXPLANATION ASSOCIATE WITH EACH PROJECT WITHIN EACH
10:06:50AM DEPARTMENT.
10:06:50AM THEN IF THE READER WANTS MORE DETAIL, WE GET INTO THE
10:06:54AM VARIOUS FUNDING SOURCES THAT GO INTO FUNDING THE CAPITAL
10:06:57AM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
10:06:58AM OVERVIEW HERE.
10:07:01AM AND IF YOU SEE ON THE LOWER RIGHT, AND VIEW THE REPORT.
10:07:05AM I WON'T GO INTO THAT BECAUSE GOES DOWN QUITE A FEW RABBIT
10:07:09AM HOLES.
10:07:09AM WE RESUMMARIZE BY DEPARTMENT THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN FOR THE
10:07:14AM APPROPRIATIONS AND ALLOCATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CAPITAL
10:07:20AM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
10:07:20AM HERE IS OUR ARC GIS MAP IDENTIFYING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS
10:07:28AM PROJECTS FROM 2022-2023.
10:07:31AM AS WE GO FORWARD IN TIME, EVERY ACTIVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
10:07:35AM PROJECT WILL BE ON ON THIS MAP.
10:07:37AM RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TWO YEARS.
10:07:38AM IN THE BACKGROUND, THIS IS KIND OF A SYSTEMIC COORDINATION
10:07:42AM OF INFORMATION BETWEEN REVENUE AND FINANCE DEPARTMENT, THE
10:07:45AM VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, AND ESPECIALLY I WILL GIVE CREDIT TO
10:07:48AM THE TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DEPARTMENT.
10:07:50AM AGAIN, A DEEP DIVE INTO SOURCES OF FINANCING.
10:07:59AM WHERE ARE THE SOURCES OF FUNDING COMING FOR ALL OF THESE
10:08:03AM PROJECTS?
10:08:03AM JUST AS WE TALKED OF THE PHASES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CAPITAL
10:08:06AM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, HERE THE READ CAN TAKE A SUMMARY OR A
10:08:10AM VERY DEEP DIVE WHERE THIS FUNDING COMES FROM AND WHAT THEY
10:08:14AM CAN BE USED FOR.
10:08:15AM GRANTS.
10:08:18AM THERE WILL BE A MORE DETAILED GRANT SHEET LATER ON DOWN --
10:08:22AM LATER ON DOWN THE WEB PAGE.
10:08:25AM DEBT.
10:08:25AM OF COURSE AS WE DISCUSSED AND AS COUNCIL KNOWS, A GREAT DEAL
10:08:29AM OF MAJOR PROJECTS OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE, TEN YEARS, ETC.,
10:08:33AM CALL FOR SOME DEBT ISSUANCE.
10:08:36AM AND WE HAVE BEEN VERY PROACTIVE IN PLANNING THAT OUT AS YOU
10:08:40AM KNOW.
10:08:40AM THE DEBT ISSUANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IN THE
10:08:44AM FUTURE.
10:08:44AM AND WE GET INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS
10:08:49AM AND HOW THAT INTERACTS WITH WHERE THIS CITY IS GOING
10:08:53AM FORWARD.
10:08:54AM WHERE WE INTEND TO TAKE THIS SHIP, IF YOU WILL.
10:08:56AM I WON'T GO INTO IT ALL RIGHT NOW.
10:09:00AM COMPREHENSIVE IMPROVEMENT SCHEDULE.
10:09:02AM LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUDGET PROCESS.
10:09:04AM YOU HEARD MISS DUNCAN SPEAK TO THAT A BIT.
10:09:08AM AND THEN FINALLY, WE NEVER WANT TO FORGET THE OPERATIONAL
10:09:12AM IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS POP NOT
10:09:18AM JUST BUILDING A BUILDING OR CRANKING UP A PARK.
10:09:21AM YOU WANT TO PLAN FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT PROJECT.
10:09:23AM YOU GO THE TO STAFF THAT CHECKS, FOR INSTANCE, AGAIN, USING
10:09:26AM PARKS AND RECREATION AS AN EXAMPLE.
10:09:29AM AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT THAT WE HAVE NOW CALLS
10:09:32AM FOR MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF OPERATING COST INTO
10:09:36AM THE FUTURE.
10:09:37AM IF IT IS GOING TO BE A FIRE STATION, FOR INSTANCE.
10:09:40AM IF IT IS GOING TO BE A PARK.
10:09:41AM YOU CAN COUNT ON SPENDING THAT OPERATING FUNDING IN
10:09:44AM PERPETUITY AS LONG AS THAT ASSET IS ACTIVE.
10:09:46AM SO WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT HALF T OF THAT, ALTHOUGH WE
10:09:51AM IN THE COURSE OF THE PRODUCTION FOR THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL
10:09:54AM IMPROVEMENT PLAN, WE DO CONCENTRATE ON THE LARGE REVENUES
10:09:58AM AND CONSTRUCTION AND LAND ACQUISITION, BUT THERE IS A
10:10:01AM SIGNIFICANT TAKE GENT TO THAT -- TANGENT TO THAT ALSO.
10:10:07AM MOVING BACK TO THE PRESENTATION, WE WILL COME THROUGH TODAY
10:10:10AM AND GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW AGAIN.
10:10:12AM TEAM MEMBERS WILL SPEAK TO SPECIFIC PROJECT DETAILS,
10:10:16AM DESCRIPTIONS, FUNDING SOURCES, PLANNED FUNDING LEVELS, WHAT
10:10:19AM IS AVAILABLE IN THE PARTICULAR PROJECT.
10:10:21AM WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION BEFORE.
10:10:22AM AND, AGAIN, THE ARC VIEW MAP.
10:10:28AM THIS IS OUR FISCAL 2023-2027 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
10:10:34AM YOU REMEMBER SEEING THE SLIDE IN OUR VARIOUS MEETINGS DURING
10:10:38AM THE BUDGET PREPPEDNESS PROCESS.
10:10:41AM FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM WITH 300 PROJECTS AND TOTALING JUST OVER
10:10:44AM $1.9 BILLION.
10:10:46AM I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND COUNCIL AND THE VIEWING PUBLIC THAT
10:10:50AM THIS IS ONE OF THE KEYSTONES FOR OUR ANNUAL UNITED STATES
10:10:56AM GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS AWARD THAT WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE
10:11:00AM TO RECEIVE.
10:11:00AM YOU NOTICE I SAY FORTUNATE, BUT NOT LUCKY.
10:11:04AM IT IS NOT LUCK.
10:11:04AM WE DO A VERY GOOD JOB, WHETHER IT IS COUNCIL, THE MAYOR, THE
10:11:09AM TEAM, THE PUBLIC OF IDENTIFYING PRIORITIES AND CHARTING THE
10:11:15AM COURSE FORWARD.
10:11:16AM THIS FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM IS THE GOLD MEDAL STANDARD FOR
10:11:22AM THE GOA, THE GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION.
10:11:25AM WE CRAFT A GOOD PLAN.
10:11:26AM 1.9 BILLION OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS AND FIRST YEAR,
10:11:30AM YOU HAVE A THIRD OF THAT.
10:11:31AM WE ARE COMING VERY AGGRESSIVE INTO THIS FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL
10:11:35AM IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
10:11:36AM AND YOU SEE THE EMPHASIS ON EXTRA, WHETHER IT IS SOLID
10:11:40AM WASTE, WATER, WASTEWATER, PARKS.
10:11:43AM GIVING YOU SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT ALSO.
10:11:45AM AND A FINAL REFRESH FOR YOU AND THE VIEWING PICK LICK.
10:11:51AM AGAIN, OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM ARE THE BIG PROJECTS.
10:11:55AM NOT VEHICLES.
10:11:55AM NOT HELICOPTERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:11:59AM ASSET WITH THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OVER A YEAR.
10:12:02AM AS I SAID AGAIN REQUIRING DEBT ISSUANCE.
10:12:07AM THIS IN R IN A VERY BIG WAY CHARTS THE LONG-TERM COURSE FOR
10:12:11AM THE CITY AS EVERY YEAR COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR REVIEW THIS
10:12:15AM PLAN AND AUGMENT IT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
10:12:23AM HAVING SAID THAT, I WILL TURN AT THAT BACK OVER TO POLICE
10:12:26AM DUNCAN AND, OF COURSE, I WILL BE HERE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE
10:12:31AM PRESENTATION.
10:12:31AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU, DENNIS.
10:12:32AM YOU MAY RECALL, IN JANUARY.
10:12:35AM THE CHIEF OF STAFF CAME BEFORE YOU AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE
10:12:39AM ARE CALLING THE GRATE EIGHT PROCESS.
10:12:41AM EXCUSE ME.
10:12:42AM LOST MY CAN YOU SEE THE SLIDE?
10:12:48AM I AM SORRY.
10:12:48AM BASICALLY THIS IS A REALIGNING, STREAMLINING AND CONSISTENT
10:12:55AM SEE APPLICATION TO EXISTING PROJECT MANAGER PROCESSES THAT
10:12:58AM WE HAVE.
10:12:59AM YOU CAN IMAGINE LIKE YOU SAW THE LIST THAT DENNIS SHOWED, WE
10:13:02AM HAVE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF CAPITAL PROJECTS
10:13:09AM MANY, MANY INDIVIDUALS, MANY DEPARTMENTS INVOLVED AND THIS
10:13:12AM IS BRINGING MORE OF A CONSISTENT TEMPLATE PARTICULARLY
10:13:16AM STARTING WITH THE HIGH PROFILE PROJECTS, I WILL CALL THEM
10:13:23AM TALKED.HAVING AN IDENTIFIED SET OF STAKEHOLDER FOR EACH
10:13:28AM PROJECT THAT I HAVE LISTED HERE.
10:13:29AM I WON'T READ THEM ALL.
10:13:31AM ADDING THIS PROCESS TO OUR PLANNING AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT
10:13:34AM TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE NOT MISSING IN I KEY THINGS AT THE
10:13:37AM VERY, VERY BEGINNING OF THINKING OR TALKING ABOUT A CONCEPT
10:13:40AM FOR A PROJECT.
10:13:45AM WE BELIEVE THIS WILL GIVE STRENGTH TO THE PROCESS WE ALREADY
10:13:48AM HAVE SO DON'T OVERLOOK ANYTHING OF GREAT IMPORTANCE THAT WE
10:13:52AM DON'T WANT TO FIND OUT LATER ON.
10:13:57AM AS PART OF THAT, WE ARE GOING TO FINALIZE OUR FORMAT FOR THE
10:14:01AM BIANNUAL REPORT WE ARE GOING TO START TO SEND TO YOU ALL.
10:14:04AM AND WITH WE WANT TO HAVE THIS -- LIKE WE DID WITH THE SIRE
10:14:09AM ITEMS AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS ONE OF THOSE THAT REQUESTED
10:14:12AM THAT AND ALL OF YOU WANTED THAT AS WELL.
10:14:14AM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A FOR MAT THAT I HAVE OUTLINED HERE
10:14:18AM JUST FOR CONSISTENCY.
10:14:20AM BECAUSE WE THINK THAT WILL HELP, AGAIN, MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT
10:14:22AM MISSING ANYTHING.
10:14:26AM NOT HAVE TO CONFUSE DIFFERENT STYLES OBVIOUSLY EACH STYLE
10:14:33AM WILL HAVE KEY INFORMATION IN IT TO BE CLEAR, CONSISTENT A
10:14:37AM ALL OF THOSE INTERESTING POINTS THAT EVERYONE WOULD WANT TO
10:14:39AM KNOW AHEAD OF TIME ARE LISTED AND UPDATED ON REGULARLY SO
10:14:47AM WITH THAT.
10:14:47AM WE THOUGHT WE WOULD OFFER UP SAMPLE OF PROJECTS TO TALK
10:14:52AM ABOUT IN DETAIL IF YOU WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ALL OF THESE.
10:14:55AM THE LIST WE HAD FOR TODAY.
10:14:57AM WE IMAGINE THAT THE FIRST BIANNUAL REPORT 20 KEY PROJECTS
10:15:04AM THAT ARE OF MOST INTEREST.
10:15:06AM EVENTUALLY WE WILL ADD TO THAT CUMBER OME TO PUT EVERY
10:15:17AM PROJECT IN THE REPORT.
10:15:20AM FOR THE PURPOSE OF COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC WE DON'T WANT A
10:15:25AM DATA DUMP.
10:15:26AM WE PICKED THIS HANDFUL OF PROJECTS TO UPDATE OUT YOU.
10:15:34AM TEAM MEMBERS HERE OR ONLINE TO GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE.
10:15:38AM YOU HAVE A FACT SHEET OF EACH PROJECT IN YOUR PACKET AND GO
10:15:49AM BY ONE BY ONE TO SEE IF WE CAN HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS AND HAVE
10:15:53AM ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
10:15:54AM AND GO OVER THE LIST IN WHATEVER PACE YOU WOULD LIKE.
10:15:56AM START OFF WITH FIRE STATION.
10:16:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: I LIKE THIS FORMAT A LOT AND THANK YOU FOR
10:16:10AM PRESENTING.
10:16:11AM ONE THING I HAD ADD AND DUMP INTO TWO PAGES, TOP TEN LIST
10:16:16AM WHAT IS BEING PAID FOR UNDERNEATH THIS.
10:16:18AM LOOK AT VILA BROTHERS AND I CAN SEE THE OVERALL BUDGET, BUT
10:16:22AM IT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND BUILDING BATHROOMS, WHATEVER THE 200
10:16:40AM LIST AND SOME OF THE BUCKETS WILL BE HELPFUL AND SO WE CAN
10:16:44AM SEE AND THE PUBLIC CAN SEE.
10:16:45AM I AM SURE SANDY SANCHEZ AND MARTHA VILA WANTS TO KNOW WHAT
10:16:50AM IS IN THAT.
10:16:51AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: CERTAINLY WE CAN DO THAT.
10:16:53AM AGAIN, IF THAT SUITS EVERYONE FOR THAT WORKSHOP TODAY, WE
10:16:57AM WILL START WITH OUR FIRE CHIEF, BARBARA TRIPP ON FIRE
10:17:00AM STATION NUMBER 24.
10:17:16AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GUIDE MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:17:17AM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FIRE CHIEF TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FIRE
10:17:21AM STATION NUMBER 24 PART OF THIS PROJECT.
10:17:23AM BASICALLY STATION 24, WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING IN THE AREA OF
10:17:26AM NORTH TAMPA TO BUILD ANOTHER FIRE STATION.
10:17:28AM CURRENTLY WE HAVE ENGINE 24 AND RESCUE 24 OPERATING OUT OF
10:17:33AM ANOTHER STATION.
10:17:35AM THAT UNIT WAS PUT IN PLACE I WANT TO SAY IN 21 TO A'TIS WITH
10:17:44AM THE CALL VOLUME AND WORKING WITH REAL ESTATE AND OTHER
10:17:47AM DEPARTMENTS TO DETERMINE A GOOD LOCATION.
10:17:50AM WE HAVE COME INTO PRETTY AMOUNT OF DEAD-ENDS BUT WE HAVE A
10:17:55AM PLUS.
10:17:56AM WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING SOME CITY PROPERTY THAT
10:17:59AM IS UP OFF OF WHITE WAY I CAN'T WHICH WILL BE A PERFECT
10:18:02AM LOCATION TO PUT THAT STATION THE STATION WILL HOUSE THE
10:18:11AM UNITS OUT OF STATION 13 AND ALLOW STABILIZATION UP IN THAT
10:18:14AM AREA.
10:18:15AM THAT STATION WILL ALSO PROVIDE THE NEED FOR MEDICAL AND FIRE
10:18:20AM PROTECTIVE SERVICES IN THAT COMMUNITY.
10:18:22AM AS I STATED, I AM CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF HAVING MEET
10:18:26AM WITH STORMWATER.
10:18:27AM THE LAND THAT WE HAVE AND TO HAVE SOME SORT OF FLOODING ON
10:18:31AM IT.
10:18:31AM AND THEY ARE DOING SURVEYS RIGHT NOW TO MAKE SURE.
10:18:34AM BASICALLY WE ACQUIRED THE LAND.
10:18:36AM IT IS CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AND LOOKING FORWARD TO POSITIVE
10:18:40AM RESULTS FROM THAT.
10:18:40AM PRETTY MUCH THE DEB FITS OF THAT ONCE AGAIN WE TALKED ABOUT
10:18:49AM AS FAR AS TAKING CARE OF THE CALL VOLUME IN THE NORTH TAMPA
10:18:52AM AREA AND PUT THE RESOURCES WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED.
10:18:55AM THAT IS PRETTY MUCH -- IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
10:19:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF TRIPP?
10:19:04AM THANK YOU, CHIEF.
10:19:05AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: NOT READY FOR THAT.
10:19:22AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:19:23AM I DIDN'T GIVE OUR NEW CONVENTION DIRECTOR THE CLICKER
10:19:27AM COMMAND HERE.
10:19:28AM HERE RIGHT HERE.
10:19:30AM >> ONLY ONE SHEET.
10:19:32AM I AM GOOD.
10:19:33AM GOOD MORNING.
10:19:34AM I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER.
10:19:36AM I HOPEFULLY WILL MAKE THIS VERY QUICK AND HAVE GOOD NEWS FOR
10:19:40AM YOU.
10:19:40AM OUR PROJECT IS FOR THE RENOVATION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:19:44AM WE DID IT IN THREE PHASES.
10:19:45AM AS WE ARE GETTING OLDER, WE ARE HERE SINCE 1990, WE NEED TO
10:19:49AM DO MECHANICAL RENOVATIONS.
10:19:50AM UPDATE OUR MEETINGS ROOMS.
10:19:53AM AND WE ALSO WANTED TO EXPAND.
10:19:55AM THESE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE RENOVATION.
10:19:58AM THEY HAVE.
10:19:58AM MECHANICAL WILL BE DONE IN JUNE.
10:20:00AM MEETING ROOM, THE INTERNAL ONES SLATED FOR MARCH AND THE
10:20:05AM BUSINESS AND INCREASED BUSINESS PUSH THAT BACK TO APRIL AND
10:20:08AM MAY.
10:20:09AM THE REAL BIG PIECES HERE.
10:20:10AM THE GOOD NEWS STORY THAT THE EXPANSION OF THE 16,000 SQUARE
10:20:14AM FEET WILL BE DONE BY THE END OF JUNE.
10:20:16AM OUR FIRST EVENT AFTER THAT WILL BE IN JULY FOR THE FLORIDA
10:20:19AM BAR ASSOCIATION.
10:20:19AM SO WE ARE ALREADY LOOKING AT RETURNS HAVING THAT NEW
10:20:22AM ADDITIONAL SPACE.
10:20:22AM AS A BIG PIECE PROJECT, I LOOK AT IT AS THE BENEFITS OF NOT
10:20:27AM ONLY ARE WE BECOMING A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENT BY UPGRADING
10:20:31AM OUR MECHANICALS BUT THE ADDITIONAL SPACE ALLOW US TO BE MORE
10:20:35AM FLEXIBLE AND DO MORE BUSINESS.
10:20:37AM YOU TALKED TO YOU INDIVIDUALLY AN THINGS TO LOOK FORWARD TO
10:20:40AM ON THE CONVENTION CENTER IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:20:44AM MORE SPACE AND MORE ON OUR EVENTS AND SPACE, THE EVENTS WILL
10:20:48AM COME AND GIVES A BETTER ECONOMIC RETURN FOR THE EXPANSION AS
10:20:52AM WELL AS GIVES THE INCREASE OF SALES TAX REVENUE.
10:20:54AM ALL THE OTHER ADDITIONAL STUFF THAT HELPS THE CITY AS A
10:20:57AM WHOLE TO SOLVE SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE HAVE.
10:21:00AM HOPEFULLY I SENT MINE SHORT AND SWEET.
10:21:03AM GOOD NEWS STORY FOR EVERYBODY.
10:21:05AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HERE FOR YOU.
10:21:08AM IF NOT, I CAN WAIT UNTIL THE ACCEPTED.
10:21:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:21:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO WELCOME YOU TO THE JOB THAT YOU
10:21:15AM HAVE.
10:21:15AM YOU ARE LIMITED TO SOME DEGREE BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF YOUR
10:21:19AM CENTER, 220,000 SQUARE FOOT MINUS SOME.
10:21:23AM >> YOU ARE CORRECT.
10:21:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT HAPPENS YOU CAN'T GET THE BIG
10:21:27AM CONVENTIONS WITH 8,000 OR 10,000 PEOPLE.
10:21:30AM FIRST TIME, WAY ABOVE, WE HAD A CONVENTION CENTER WITHOUT A
10:21:35AM CONVENTION CENTER HOTEL.
10:21:36AM AND WE SUFFERED A LOT.
10:21:38AM BY DOING THAT THROUGH DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS.
10:21:40AM WE BECAME VIABLE AND SUCCESSFUL ON THE ABILITY TO HAVE ROOMS
10:21:45AM TO RENT FOR PEOPLE TO GO TO THE CONVENTION.
10:21:47AM THAT BEING SAID, DO YOU PLAN -- WHAT ARE THE FUTURE PLANS
10:21:53AM FOR THAT CONVENTION CENTER.
10:21:55AM YOU ARE THE ONES THAT WILL LEAD IT IN THE NEXT 15 TO 20
10:21:59AM YEARS.
10:21:59AM YOUR VISION PLAN HAS TO BE MADE UP BECAUSE YOU ARE
10:22:02AM SURROUNDED BY VERY LITTLE ROOM TO EXPAND, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:22:05AM >> YOU ARE CORRECT.
10:22:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT ARE WE PLANNING TO DO -- NOT NOW.
10:22:09AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER TO THIS BODY NOW, BUT IN
10:22:13AM THE FUTURE TO SEE THINGS HAPPEN.
10:22:15AM OF COURSE THIS IS BASED ON THE ECONOMY-DRIVEN SECTOR.
10:22:19AM GONE FROM A SLEEPY CITY THAT PRODUCED CIGARS AND GREAT
10:22:24AM THINGS IN AMERICA TO ONE THAT HAVE TECH COMPANIES AND THE VY
10:22:27AM BRANS OF YOUNG PEOPLE COMING IN THAT ARE NOT FROM HERE.
10:22:30AM WHEN YOUR GRANDKIDS DON'T LEAVE TAMPA AND GO TO OTHER
10:22:34AM SCHOOLS AND THEY COME BACK, THAT IS WHAT MAKES THE CITY
10:22:37AM VIBRANT.
10:22:37AM >> SURE.
10:22:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: KEEPS ADDING YOUNG BLOOD TO THE FORMULA
10:22:42AM OF SURVIVING.
10:22:43AM WE ARE HERE AT THAT POINT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT
10:22:46AM IN DOWNTOWN AND THE WHOLE CITY AND WEST OF US OF CHANNELSIDE
10:22:53AM AND ALL THAT AND EAST OF US.
10:22:54AM IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.
10:22:55AM YOU CAN WRITE A BOOK, READ IT, AND STILL NOT BELIEVE IT AND
10:23:01AM IT IS THERE.
10:23:01AM BASED ON SO MANY FACTORS LIKE THE CONVENTION CENTER AND
10:23:06AM ABILITY TO DO WHAT WE LIKE TO DO.
10:23:09AM TO HAVE A NICE TIME AND WORK HARD.
10:23:11AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING.
10:23:12AM NOT TODAY.
10:23:13AM NOT TOMORROW.
10:23:14AM I MAY NOT BE HERE IN TEN YEARS BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN
10:23:18AM WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN TEN YEARS.
10:23:19AM >> SURE, THE 50,000-FOOT VIEW OF IT AS A.PUBLIC-PRIVATE
10:23:25AM PARTNERSHIP POTENTIALLY BECAUSE PRIVATE PROPERTIES THAT ARE
10:23:28AM THERE ADJACENT TO US THAT ALLOW US TO STAY ELEVATE AND KEEP
10:23:31AM CONTINUITY TO OUR BUILDING ESPECIALLY ON THE EXHIBIT HALL
10:23:35AM FLOOR.
10:23:36AM THE KEY PIECE THAT I HOPE PEOPLE CAN TAKE AWAY FROM IT, NOT
10:23:39AM THE CENTER EXPANDING BUT ALSO THE HOTEL COMMUNITY EXPANDING
10:23:43AM AS WELL.
10:23:43AM IF YOU CAN GET A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR A TRUE FLAG
10:23:47AM HOTEL FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER AROUND 8,000 TO 10,000
10:23:51AM ROOMS.
10:23:51AM YOU CAN GET THOSE BIG CONVENTIONS.
10:23:53AM CONVENTIONS FROM THE PERSPECTIVE HAVING THE LARGE ONE HERE
10:23:57AM GREAT.
10:23:57AM YES HELPS WITH US NAME-BRAND RECOGNITION AND THE CAPACITY TO
10:24:01AM ARE MULTIPLE EVENTS AT MULTIPLE TEAMS.
10:24:03AM IF I HAVE HALF THE BUILDING FOR CHEERLEADERS AND THE OTHER
10:24:07AM HALF FOR DEFENSE CONTRACTORS AND I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HOTEL
10:24:11AM ROOMS FOR EITHER ONE.
10:24:12AM I JUST LOST A BATTLE.
10:24:14AM CAN'T REDRAW IT OR RETAIN THE BUSINESS THAT I HAVE.
10:24:17AM THE INDUSTRY IS CITY GROWING.
10:24:19AM I KNOW COVID TOOK A BIG HIT FOR A LOT OF INDUSTRY, BUT OUR
10:24:23AM INDUSTRY REBOUNDED VERY QUICKLY.
10:24:25AM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT BY A LOT OF THE OTHER EXPANSIONS GOING
10:24:29AM ON AROUND THE COUNTRY.
10:24:30AM AUSTIN IS DOING ONE WHICH IS A COMPARABLE SIZED CITY FOR US
10:24:34AM AS FAR AS SPACE-WISE IN THE CONCESSION VENTER.
10:24:37AM MILWAUKEE IS FINISHING UP ONE.
10:24:39AM A LOT OF THAT MID TIER GROUP THAT WE ARE COMPETING WITH IF
10:24:42AM WE DON'T CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND EXPLORE
10:24:46AM THAT.PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
10:24:47AM WE WILL BE LEFT BEHIND AND SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT AT ALL.
10:24:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:24:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE SHOULD HAVE A LONGER CONVERSATION ABOUT
10:24:57AM THIS ON ANOTHER DAY.
10:24:59AM QUICK QUESTIONS FOLLOWING MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS.
10:25:03AM IF I REMEMBER, RENDERINGS THAT WERE LEAKED OR POST THAT HAD
10:25:08AM A HOTEL ON TOP.
10:25:10AM YOU LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR OUTSIDE THE
10:25:14AM FOOTPRINT OR SKYWAYS AND THINK OF BUILDING SOMETHING ON TOP.
10:25:18AM >> I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR TWO AND A HALF MONTHS.
10:25:21AM WHAT WAS LEAKED -- WHAT YOU SAW WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE
10:25:23AM BUSINESS JOURNAL, THE TAMPA BAY BUSINESS JOURNAL THAT HAD
10:25:26AM THE EXTENSION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER GOING ACROSS
10:25:30AM DIAGONALLY TO A VACANT PROPERTY.
10:25:33AM AND THIS WAS GOING TO BE REDEVELOPED IN COMBINATION WITH
10:25:36AM PUBLIC AND PRIVATE THAT HAD HOTELS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
10:25:40AM EXPANSION OF THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:25:41AM I HAVEN'T DELVED INTO THAT, BUT THAT WILL ULTIMATELY NEED TO
10:25:46AM HAPPEN.
10:25:47AM YOU WOULD NEED TO GO ACROSS THE STREET AND BUILD VERTICAL.
10:25:50AM I COULD HAVE, LIKE -- I AM JUST PICKING THE NUMBER.
10:25:53AM FLOORS THREE AND FOUR AND THE REST COULD BE ALY TELL THAT
10:25:58AM HAVE THE ABILITY TO HOUSE 8,000 TO 1,000 ROOMS.
10:26:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT
10:26:04AM IT MORE LATER.
10:26:05AM BUT I DON'T THINK WE ARE IN THE CATEGORY OF COMPETITION WITH
10:26:08AM ORLANDO OR LAS VEGAS, BIG CITIES LIKE THAT.
10:26:10AM BUT IN THE CATEGORY WE ARE, WHAT CATEGORY ARE WE IN.
10:26:14AM AND THAT CATEGORY, WHEN WE ARE DONE WITH THESE RENOVATIONS,
10:26:17AM HOW COMPETITIVE ARE WE.
10:26:19AM HOW COMPETITIVE THAT TAMPA IS A GREAT CITY AND PEOPLE WANT
10:26:21AM TO VISIT HERE JUST THE FACILITIES OURSELVES.
10:26:24AM THE JW AND MARRIOTT AND EMBASSY SUITES AND ALL THE OTHER
10:26:28AM CONVENTION SPACE.
10:26:29AM ARE WE VERY COMPETITIVE IN OUR CATEGORY RIGHT NOW?
10:26:32AM OR IS THERE A LOT MORE WE NEED TO DO TO CATCH UP IN THE
10:26:36AM CATEGORY.
10:26:36AM >> WE ARE VERY COMPETITIVE.
10:26:38AM ONE THING THAT WILL TRULY LIMIT US IS THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TO
10:26:42AM BE QUITE HONEST.
10:26:43AM YOU MENTION ORLANDO AND VEGAS.
10:26:46AM A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE DESTINATION PACKAGE AND WHAT
10:26:51AM ACTUALLY HAS TO OFFER.
10:26:52AM YOU NEED AN AIRPORT.
10:26:54AM YOU NEED INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:26:55AM YOU NEED HOTEL ROOMS AND A CONVENTION CENTER.
10:26:58AM WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL AIRPORT HERE.
10:26:59AM THE INFRASTRUCTURE AFTER TODAY'S CONVERSATION SOUNDS LIKE IT
10:27:03AM COULD BE IMPROVED.
10:27:03AM THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:27:05AM YOU HAVE A PHENOMENAL ONE.
10:27:07AM A HIDDEN GEM THAT PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:27:10AM ONE THING THAT TRULY COMES DOWN NOW IS THE HOTEL PACKAGE.
10:27:13AM IF THE HOTEL COMMUNITY CAN GET ON BOARD AND WE ALL FUNCTION
10:27:17AM TOGETHER AND YOU HAVE ANOTHER 1,000-ROOM HOTEL, WE HAVE THE
10:27:21AM ABILITY TO BE THE NUMBER ONE DESTINATION IN OUR MARKET.
10:27:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: STOP ME.
10:27:25AM WHAT IS OUR CATEGORY CALLED?
10:27:27AM >> SECOND TIER CITY.
10:27:28AM YOU BREAK THAT UP BASED ON THE SIZE AND YOUR LIFT TO THE
10:27:33AM AIRPORT.
10:27:34AM SO IF YOU LOOK AT CHICAGO, LAS VEGAS AND ORLANDO, THEY ARE
10:27:36AM OVER ONE MILLION SQUARE FEET.
10:27:38AM THEY ARE GOING TO BE LOOKED AT AS A TIER 1 CITY.
10:27:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: FOLLOW ON AND STOP ME IF YOU CAN'T TALK
10:27:45AM ABOUT THIS.
10:27:46AM THE EMBASSY SUITES WAS BUILT SO YOU COULD BUILD ANOTHER
10:27:51AM TOWER ON TOP OF THE PARKING DECK.
10:27:53AM >> I AM GOING TO DEFER TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WHO HAS BEEN
10:27:56AM HERE FAR LONGER THAN I HAVE.
10:27:57AM [LAUGHTER]
10:27:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ROOMS THEY
10:28:02AM HAVE ON THE ONE SIDE, BUT GOT TO BE CREATIVE IDEAS USING
10:28:07AM SPACE.
10:28:07AM THEY BUILT THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE OTHER SIDE TO BUILD A
10:28:10AM TWIN TOWER ANOTHER COUPLE HUNDRED ROOMS.
10:28:12AM WE WILL TALK LATER.
10:28:13AM THANK YOU.
10:28:13AM >> THANK YOU.
10:28:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:28:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE GENTLEMAN IS RIGHT.
10:28:19AM I REMEMBER SEVERAL TIMES WE TRIED TO GET MINORITY VISITS
10:28:23AM HERE IN TAMPA AND THEY ALL FAILED BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE
10:28:30AM HOTEL SPACE.
10:28:31AM YOU WANT HOTEL SPACE WITH CONVENIENCE.
10:28:33AM YOU WANT A HOTEL WHERE YOU CAN GO RIGHT DOWNSTAIRS AND GO TO
10:28:38AM THE CONVENTION AREAS.
10:28:39AM >> CORRECT.
10:28:40AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GLAD MY FRATERNITY WILL BE THE FIRST
10:28:43AM FRATERNITY TO HAVE A CONCLAVE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:28:49AM ROUGHLY ABOUT 20,000 KAPPAS, MANY MORE.
10:28:54AM AND HAVE IT SINCE COVID FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS NOW.
10:28:58AM GLAD WE ARE ABOUT TO GET IT ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO.
10:29:01AM WHEN COMMISSIONER MILLER WAS -- WAS IN CHARGE OF THE COUNTY
10:29:06AM COMMISSION.
10:29:06AM AND WE JUST COULDN'T GET IT IN THE NINTH HOUR.
10:29:09AM IT WENT TO ORLANDO.
10:29:10AM THAT WAS THE MOST DISAPPOINTING THING FOR US IN TAMPA.
10:29:14AM BUT WE ARE GLAD WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE NOW WITH THE
10:29:16AM HOTEL SPACE AND YOU ARE RIGHT, GET MORE MOTELS ESPECIALLY ON
10:29:21AM TOP OF THAT CONVENTION.
10:29:24AM YOU TALK OF CONVENIENCE AND THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
10:29:27AM THEY WANT THAT CONVENIENCE.
10:29:28AM >> ALL ABOUT WALKING DISTANCE AND WHAT AMENITIES YOU HAVE.
10:29:32AM DOWNTOWN TAMPA HAS PHENOMENAL AMENITIES AND WALKABLE.
10:29:36AM GETTING THOSE EXTRA HOTEL ROOM.
10:29:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WENT TO CHICAGO.
10:29:41AM EVERYTHING IS OUT THERE.
10:29:42AM I CAN WALK.
10:29:43AM DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
10:29:45AM PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR CONVENIENCE.
10:29:46AM THANK YOU FOR THE IDEAS.
10:29:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:29:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY 67.
10:29:50AM I NEVER HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING YOU AND A PLEASURE TO
10:29:54AM KNOW YOU NOW.
10:29:55AM YOU ARE DIRECT AND STRAIGHTFORWARD AND I LIKE THAT KIND OF
10:29:58AM APPROACH.
10:29:59AM THE CONVENTION CENTER, ALONG WITH OTHER ENTITIES IN THE CITY
10:30:02AM IS WHAT BROUGHT IT UP.
10:30:03AM ONE TIME WE HAD A CONVENTION CENTER AND ZERO HOTELS TO SPEAK
10:30:07AM OF.
10:30:08AM THEREFORE WERE IN THE NEGATIVE.
10:30:10AM THE MARRIOTT CAME ON.
10:30:12AM THE EMBASSY SUITES CAME ON, AND OTHERS DID REPAIR AND OTHERS
10:30:19AM HAVE OPEN, FIVE-STAR ONES.
10:30:21AM THESE THINGS ARE HERE AND LED TO OTHER THING -- AQUORUM HAD
10:30:29AM A RECORD YEAR, 490,000 PEOPLE COME TO THE AQUARIUM.
10:30:33AM THE STREETCAR TRAVELS BY THERE AND A LOT OF AM BEE I
10:30:38AM CAN'TNESS TO DO THINGS.
10:30:39AM DOWNTOWN HAS CHANGED FROM THE '70s TILL NOW.
10:30:46AM ALL FOR THE GOOD.
10:30:47AM ZOO TAMPA, THEY BROKE ALL RECORDS.
10:30:49AM THEY ARE THE LARGEST ENTITY OF THEIR CLASS IN THE STATE OF
10:30:52AM FLORIDA, 1,250,000 PEOPLE ADVICE AT THIS TIME LAST YEAR.
10:30:57AM AND I UNDERSTAND THEY ARE IN A RECORD YEAR ALSO.
10:31:01AM AND THINGS THAT PEOPLE CERTAINLY COME TO TOWN, COULD COME TO
10:31:05AM THE CITY AND ENJOY THEMSELVES.
10:31:06AM TO THE NOT FOR YOUR ENTITY AND THE TWO ENTITIES I JUST
10:31:10AM MENTIONED.
10:31:10AM KUDOS TO ALL OF YOU BECAUSE WHO KNOWS WHAT WOULD BE
10:31:13AM HAPPENING IF THEY WEREN'T HERE.
10:31:14AM IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT DOWNTOWN.
10:31:16AM IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT AMBIENCE.
10:31:18AM KIDS LEARN A LOT WHEN THEY GO TO THE AQUARIUM AND THE ZOOS.
10:31:22AM AND THE PARENTS LEARN EVEN MORE.
10:31:24AM LEARN HOW TO KEEP THEIR KIDS CLOSE TO THEM.
10:31:26AM THEY GET SO EXCITED.
10:31:28AM AA AN EXCITING THING TO SEE THINGS THEY NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
10:31:33AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE BRINGING IT TO TAMPA THE
10:31:36AM CONVENTION CENTER IS WELL OVER 25 YEARS.
10:31:38AM IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS BUILT YESTERDAY.
10:31:40AM AND THE MAINTENANCE OF IT HAS BEEN VERY GOOD.
10:31:42AM AND I WILL BE DISCUSSING OTHER THINGS WITH YOU WHEN I HAVE
10:31:46AM TIME -- WHEN YOU HAVE TIME.
10:31:47AM I HAVE TIME FOR YOU, SIR, TO MEET WITH YOU AND TALK TO YOU
10:31:51AM ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:31:52AM I THINK IT IS GOING GREAT AND ONE OF THE ITEMS MAKING THE
10:31:55AM CITY EVEN BETTER EVERY DAY.
10:31:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:31:58AM >> THANK YOU.
10:31:59AM A LOT OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE EXISTING STAFF.
10:32:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:32:05AM >>BILL CARLSON:: IT REMINDED ME WITH THE TROLLEY CAR.
10:32:10AM AND CONNECTED ME TO YBOR.
10:32:11AM THE FOLKS IN YBOR APPRECIATE MORE JOINT MARKETING,
10:32:16AM COLLABORATION AND I THINK THEY ARE A MAJOR ASSET THAT HELPS
10:32:19AM SELL THE CONVENTION.
10:32:21AM SO TO THE EXTENT -- I KNOW PARTLY THE CVB, BUT YOU CAN
10:32:29AM PARTNER WITH THEM.
10:32:30AM SPACE AND RESTAURANT AND THEY WOULD LOVE TO PARTNER WITH
10:32:34AM YOU.
10:32:34AM THANK YOU.
10:32:34AM >> THANK YOU.
10:32:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
10:32:37AM THANK YOU.
10:32:39AM >> THANK YOU.
10:32:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DUNCAN, WE WILL MOVE TO THE RIVERWALK
10:32:45AM NEXT.
10:32:45AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, I HAVE MR. BHIDE AND ADRIANA COLINA
10:32:51AM ONLINE FOR 9 NEXT TWO ITEMS IF THAT IS OKAY.
10:32:54AM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, JEAM.
10:32:57AM THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
10:32:58AM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
10:33:02AM I WILL TALK OF THE WEST RIVERWALK PROJECT.
10:33:06AM IS THAT SLIDE UP?
10:33:08AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
10:33:09AM >>VIK BHIDE: OKAY, GREAT.
10:33:10AM THE WEST RIVERWALK PROJECT IS REALLY CRITICAL TO OUR URBAN
10:33:16AM CORE AND RENEWAL ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER ALONG
10:33:24AM DOWNTOWN, GOING FURTHER UP PAST THE INTERSTATE AS WELL.
10:33:27AM THIS WAS MADE POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF A STRONG BUSINESS CASE
10:33:29AM MADE TO FEDERAL HIGHWAY THROUGH THE BUILD GRANT.
10:33:33AM SPECIFICALLY THE BUSINESS CASE INCLUDED THREE CRITERIA:
10:33:39AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:33:39AM WE HAVE SEEN WHAT BENEFITS WE HAVE WITH THE CURRENT
10:33:45AM RIVERWALK ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE RIVER.
10:33:46AM THE ACTIVITY, THE WALKABILITY, AND THE CONNECTIVITY THAT IT
10:33:50AM HAS FOSTERED.
10:33:52AM THE SECOND IS CONNECTIVITY ITSELF.
10:33:54AM SO WHILE THIS IS A TWO-MILE SEGMENT ALONG THE RIVER AND ROME
10:33:59AM AVENUE AND PLATT STREET AND COLUMBUS DRIVE, WHICH KIND OF
10:34:04AM CREATES A LOOP JUST WEST OF THE RIVER, WHAT IT ALSO DOES, IT
10:34:09AM PROVIDES SEAMLESS NONCAR TRANSPORT.
10:34:13AM SO WALK, BIKE, MICROCONNECTIVITY FROM BAYSHORE AND GANDY TO
10:34:21AM YBOR CITY BY EXISTING TRAILS AND SECTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
10:34:25AM SO THIS REALLY CONNECTS A BIG PART OF TAMPA SOUTH OF THE
10:34:30AM INTERSTATE, INCLUDING NEIGHBORHOODS NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE,
10:34:33AM WHICH PRINCIPLES -- BRINGS US TO THE THIRD PART WHICH IS
10:34:40AM EQUITY.
10:34:40AM THIS WAS CRITICAL OF THE BUILD PROGRAM.
10:34:44AM WITH THAT END, THE CONNECTIVITY OF NORTH TAMPA AND AREAS
10:34:51AM NORTH OF INTERSTATE BOTH DIVERSE AND WORKING-CLASS
10:34:54AM NEIGHBORHOODS AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE.
10:34:55AM NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
10:34:57AM THE CURRENT PROJECT STATUS IS THAT COUNCIL APPROVE THE
10:35:05AM AGREEMENT WITH FEDERAL HIGHWAYS LAST YEAR.
10:35:09AM WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS CRITICAL PROJECT.
10:35:14AM IT IS A $30 MILLION PROJECT.
10:35:16AM $24 MILLION FROM FEDERAL HIGHWAY.
10:35:19AM $6 MILLION MATCH BY THE CITY TOWARD THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT
10:35:25AM YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN.
10:35:26AM AND MORE AS WE DISCUSS.
10:35:29AM WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FINALIZING THE RFP PACKAGE PUTTING
10:35:36AM IT OUT ON THE STREET WITH THE GOAL TO COMPLETE THE PROBABLY
10:35:38AM BY DECEMBER 26.
10:35:40AM TO THAT END, WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH USDOT, FEDERAL
10:35:46AM HIGHWAY, AND ALL OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS.
10:35:49AM IN SPEAKING OF PARTNERSHIP, I WOULD LIKE TO CELEBRATE WHAT
10:35:53AM MADE THIS POSSIBLE BEYOND THE BUSINESS CASE AND OUR
10:35:56AM STAKEHOLDERS AND REPRESENTATIVES.
10:35:58AM AND THAT IS THE CITY, MOBILITY AND PARKS TEAM.
10:36:02AM WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE AS A CITY TO HAVE A WORLD-CLASS TEAM
10:36:08AM AND LED BY DANNY AND LAURA AND NINA THAT ARE AT THE HELM OF
10:36:14AM THIS PROJECT FOR MOBILITY, BUT TONY ON PARK SITE AS WELL.
10:36:18AM SO AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:36:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS.
10:36:24AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
10:36:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: VIK, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOUR TEAM AND
10:36:30AM ANYBODY THAT WORKED ON THE GRANTS PROCESS ALSO.
10:36:33AM AND THANK YOU FOR CONGRESSWOMAN CASTOR FOR HER HELP ON THIS.
10:36:37AM LIKE YOU SAID, YOU HAVE -- YOU AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT
10:36:40AM HAS SOME VERY BRILLIANT PEOPLE WITH GREAT VISION.
10:36:44AM WE NEED TO HEAR MORE OF THOSE VOICES OF WHAT TAMPA CAN BE.
10:36:47AM AND REALLY THINK AHEAD.
10:36:49AM I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU AND ANY OF THOSE GREAT MINDS LISTENING
10:36:53AM TELL US SO WE CAN PUT YOU ON THE AGENDA WORKSHOPS AND HAVE
10:36:57AM YOU COME BACK.
10:36:57AM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE PEOPLE'S IDEAS FOR 20 YEARS FROM NOW OR
10:37:01AM 30 YEARS FROM NOW WHAT THE CITY WILL LOOK LIKE.
10:37:03AM ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL.
10:37:05AM THANK YOU.
10:37:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
10:37:09AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:37:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOVE THIS.
10:37:11AM I AM -- I AM WILDLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
10:37:14AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TEAM FOR DOING EVERYTHING FOR IT.
10:37:16AM THE OTHER -- THE ONE THING -- I KNOW YOU ARE JUST TALKING OF
10:37:21AM THE SEGMENTS ALREADY HERE.
10:37:23AM BUT JUST AS WORKSHOP TALKING EARLIER ABOUT THE KASS STREET
10:37:27AM EXTENSION THAT WAS CONNECTED EARLIER THIS WEEK, EVEN SHOWING
10:37:31AM THAT ON YOUR MAP SOMEHOW TO SHOW THE OTHER CONNECTIVITY THAT
10:37:34AM THIS IS GOING TO BRING.
10:37:36AM I THINK IT REALLY WILL JUST BENEFIT EVEN MORE, BECAUSE CASS
10:37:42AM STREET JUST SLICES RIGHT THROUGH THAT AND ADDS CONNECTIVITY
10:37:46AM TO WEST TAMPA AND ALSO TO YBOR.
10:37:49AM THOSE ARE THOSE THINGS I KNOW IS NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT,
10:37:52AM BUT LETTING PEOPLE KNOW HOW MUCH FURTHER THEY CAN REALLY GO
10:37:55AM IN LOOK AT THIS MAP.
10:38:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THIS ENDING YOUR PRESENTATION, MR. BHIDE.
10:38:10AM >>VIK BHIDE: YES, SIR.
10:38:11AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE FINAL POINT.
10:38:15AM WE CONDUCTED SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ON EITHER
10:38:19AM SIDES OF THE RIVER AND THE INTERSTATE TOWARD THIS PROJECT,
10:38:21AM AND ON A VERY PERIODIC BASIS, BRANDY REPRESENTS THE WEST
10:38:28AM TAMPA CRA AND THE FRIEND OF THE RIVERWALK AND I AM SURE I AM
10:38:33AM MISSING A LOT OF OTHER FOLKS AS WELL.
10:38:34AM THE COMMUNITY IS PART OF IT AND SUPPORTS IT.
10:38:37AM AND WE WILL UPDATE OUR COMMUNICATIONS AND MATERIALS
10:38:42AM ACCORDINGLY.
10:38:42AM THANK YOU.
10:38:43AM >> THANK YOU, I WILL DIRECTOR ADRI COLINA ON.
10:38:55AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YES, GOOD MORNING.
10:38:56AM THANK YOU, JEAN AND COUNCIL, ADRIANA COLINA, DIRECTOR OF
10:39:05AM ACCESS AND MANAGEMENT.
10:39:06AM AND I AM EXCITED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE OF CITY CENTER AT
10:39:10AM HANNA AVENUE AND I WILL KEEP IN LINE WITH THE TEMPLATE THAT
10:39:13AM WE HAVE.
10:39:13AM OUR BUSINESS FOR THIS PROJECT IS, OF COURSE, FOR DECADES,
10:39:17AM THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS OPERATED IN OUTDATED, INEFFICIENT AND
10:39:22AM OUTGROWN LEASE SPACES AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE
10:39:26AM CITY WHICH ARE ALSO LOCATED IN FLOOD ZONES.
10:39:30AM OUR CUSTOMERS DESERVE A GOVERNMENT CENTER WITH CITY SERVICES
10:39:35AM CONVENIENTLY, FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
10:39:38AM AND OUR EMPLOYEES WILL DESERVE A SPACE THAT WILL IMPROVE
10:39:41AM THEIR WORKING ENVIRONMENT.
10:39:42AM IF FACILITY WILL SERVE AS SITE IN TIMES OF EMERGENCIES.
10:39:48AM SO OUR CURRENT PROJECT STATUS.
10:39:50AM I AM VERY EXCITED.
10:39:52AM I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE BEEN BY THERE.
10:39:54AM CURRENTLY WE ARE AT 60% TO 65% OVERALL PROJECT COMPLETION.
10:39:59AM WE BROKE GROUND ON A PROJECT A YEAR AGO IN JANUARY OF 2022.
10:40:06AM TWO BUILDINGS, A MAIN BUILDING AND A PARKING GARAGE ARE
10:40:09AM COMPLETELY UP.
10:40:10AM WE ARE WORKING ON THE INTERIOR OF THE MAIN BUILDING.
10:40:13AM WE HAVE BEGUN WORKING ON THE FOUNDATION FOR THE SITE AND OF
10:40:19AM COURSE FACILITIES WILL FOLLOW RIGHT AFTER THAT.
10:40:23AM ON THE STRATEGIC GOAL ALIGNMENT, I WANT TO TALK WITH YOU AND
10:40:27AM REALLY THANK YOU FOR CHALLENGING US ON THE WORK FORCE
10:40:33AM DEVELOPMENT COMPONENT AND APPRENTICESHIP COMPONENT.
10:40:37AM WE WILL BE PROVIDING YOU -- I ASSUME WE WILL BE PROVIDING
10:40:40AM WITH YOU WITH AN APPRENTICE GOAL UPDATE FEBRUARY 2, BUT I
10:40:44AM CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE SNEAK PEEK AND LET YOU KNOW THAT WE
10:40:47AM ARE EXCEEDING THOSE GOALS.
10:40:49AM AND MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN ON-SITE.
10:40:51AM AND YOU HAVE REALLY LEARNED FIRST HAND THE IMPACTS THAT THIS
10:40:55AM PROJECT IS HAVING HAVING ON CONTRACTORS AND SUBS AND
10:41:04AM CONTRACTORS WORKING ON-SITE.
10:41:05AM WE ARE MAKING A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF SO MANY
10:41:08AM BECAUSE OF THIS PROJECT.
10:41:09AM TOMORROW, THEY ARE HOSTING A JOB FAIR AT THE NFL CENTER IN
10:41:15AM THE HEART OF EAST TAMPA BE LAKE AVENUE.
10:41:18AM EAST TAMPA SPECIFIC.
10:41:19AM MAN IN SPECIFIC.
10:41:21AM AND WE ARE LOOKING FOR ALL TRADES.
10:41:22AM THAT WILL TAKE PLACE FROM 9 A.M. UNTIL NOON TOMORROW.
10:41:27AM I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN WHY UP DATE ON THAT.
10:41:30AM FROM A TRANSPORTATION DIDN'T.
10:41:34AM FEW WEEKS AGO YOU APPROVED A MOBILITY THAT WILL MAKE
10:41:41AM IMPROVEMENTS AND ADDING STREETLIGHTS AND SIDEWALKS.
10:41:45AM I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MR. BHIDE AND HIS TEAM FOR
10:41:50AM PARTNER CAN WITH US WITHIN.
10:41:51AM SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY.
10:41:54AM I AM PROUD TO SHARE WITH YOU THIS PROJECT WON A AIA
10:42:00AM ARCHITECTURE AWARD AT THEIR RECENT TAMPA BAY DESIGN AWARDS
10:42:05AM CEREMONY HELD THROUGH THE END OF LAST YEAR.
10:42:07AM WE WON IN THE UNBUILT CATEGORY, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE
10:42:10AM PROJECT WILL BE A SOBER LEAD PROJECT.
10:42:13AM SO THE PROJECT WON BASED ON MANUFACTURE SINCE OF RESILIENCE,
10:42:20AM OUR ENERGY, STRUCTURE AND LIGHTING COMPONENTS AS WELL INDOOR
10:42:27AM AIR QUALITY.
10:42:28AM AGAIN, COUNCIL RECOMMENDED OR SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR
10:42:31AM ADDITIONAL SOLAR PANELS TO THE FLEET AND FACILITIES
10:42:34AM BUILDING.
10:42:35AM EV CHARGING STATIONS AND OTHER ITEMS TOGETHER WITH WHAT WAS
10:42:39AM ALREADY BAKED INTO THE PROJECT REALLY EARNED US THAT AWARD.
10:42:43AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:42:44AM WE WILL BE MAKING A DIFFERENCE THERE, BECAUSE OUR AFFORDABLE
10:42:47AM HOUSING OFFICE WILL BE THERE MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE
10:42:54AM COMMUNITY.
10:42:54AM SO I JUST HIT ON SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE PROJECT AND
10:42:58AM THE MANY BENEFITS.
10:42:58AM LASTLY, I WANT TO SHARE THAT, AGAIN, IT WILL BE IN A
10:43:04AM NONFLOOD ZONE.
10:43:04AM SO WE WILL BE IN EVACUATION AREA E WHICH IS 63 FEET ABOVE
10:43:11AM SEA LEVEL WHICH RIGHT NOW VIRTUALLY YOU ARE AT 36 FEET.
10:43:14AM 37 AND OUR CURRENT EOC AT 51 FEET.
10:43:20AM AND ALSO A HARDEN BUILDING.
10:43:22AM AND WE HAVE TAKEN GREAT CARE MOVING US INTO THE FUTURE WE
10:43:28AM ARE IN THE BEST SPACE FOR ALL OF US.
10:43:29AM IN TERMS OF BUDGET, I KNOW WE HEARD MANY TIMES OVER THE $108
10:43:34AM MILLION.
10:43:34AM I WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT THAT $108 MILLION INCLUDES
10:43:39AM WHAT WAS APPROVED AND SPENT IN 2015 THE ORIGINAL PROJECT.
10:43:46AM INCLUDES WHAT COUNCIL INCLUDED AS AN AMENDMENT OF THE
10:43:51AM PROJECT IN MARCH OF 2021 WHICH WAS 2.3 MILLION FOR THE
10:43:57AM DESIGN-BUILD AND DEMOLITION AND INCLUDES THE GMP THAT
10:44:01AM COUNCIL ALSO APPROVED IN NOVEMBER OF 2021 FOR THE ACTUAL
10:44:03AM CONSTRUCTION AND THIS IS THE $101 MILLION.
10:44:09AM SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND IN TERMS OF BUDGET.
10:44:12AM AND WITH THAT, I THINK THAT IS WHAT I HAVE FOR AN UPDATE.
10:44:15AM AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
10:44:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:44:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, THANK YOU.
10:44:22AM I WANT TO CONGRATULATIONS RATE SAL FLEISCHER AND HIS TEAM
10:44:29AM AND ANYBODY THAT WORKED FOR HIM.
10:44:31AM THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR PUSHING FOR THE
10:44:34AM SUSTAINABILITY OF THE PROJECT.
10:44:35AM JUST ON THE NUMBERS FOR A SECOND, IF I CAN ASK SOME
10:44:38AM CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
10:44:39AM IT WAS $108 MILLION.
10:44:42AM BUT ON THE BACK SAYS $119,610,801.
10:44:47AM IS THAT AN INCREASE IN COST?
10:44:49AM OR JUST INCLUDING NOW SOME COSTS GOING UP TO 2016.
10:44:54AM IS THE BUDGET WE APPROVED THE 108 STILL THE SAME OR HAD
10:44:58AM THERE BEEN NEW CASTS THAT COME ON BOARD.
10:45:06AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
10:45:11AM YOU LOOK AT THE DETAIL, $1 08 MILLION IS THE DEBT INFLUENCE
10:45:15AM FOR THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE COST SERIES 2021-B;
10:45:20AM HOWEVER, THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER FUNDING SOURCES APPROVED FO
10:45:23AM THIS PROJECT OVER TIME EITHER AS ADRI -- MISS COLINA
10:45:30AM REFERENCED YEARS AGO OR THE TOTAL YOU SEE OF $119.6 --
10:45:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: TOTAL COST GOING BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
10:45:39AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
10:45:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: PLUS OR MINUS.
10:45:43AM THE INTEREST ON THE 1008 WAS $17 MILLION.
10:45:49AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WILL CIRCLE BACK AND GET THAT FOR YOU.
10:45:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PER YEAR O&M COSTS ARE?
10:45:56AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE HAVE THAT SOMEWHERE AND I DON'T HAVE IT
10:45:59AM ON ME UNLESS MISS COLINA MAY HAVE THAT.
10:46:03AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I ACTUALLY DO.
10:46:05AM WE BROKE THAT DOWN AND THE O&M COST FOR 30 YEARS -- LET ME
10:46:10AM FIND THAT SLIDE FOR YOU, COUNCILMAN.
10:46:12AM IT WAS A LITTLE OVER HALF A MILLION APPEAR YEAR FOR ALL THE
10:46:18AM SITES.
10:46:20AM LET ME FIND THAT.
10:46:21AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:46:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.
10:46:25AM WHAT YOU WERE SPENDING BEFORE, RIGHT.
10:46:27AM BUT WHAT IS THE O&M COST GOING TO BE FOR THE NEW BUILDING,
10:46:32AM DO YOU KNOW THAT YET?
10:46:34AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: NO, SIR.
10:46:34AM WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET.
10:46:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA IF.
10:46:40AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NOT HERE BUT WE CAN CIRCLE THAT BACK TO
10:46:43AM YOU.
10:46:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: GET THE ANNUAL O&M COSTS AND CIRCLE IT BACK
10:46:48AM TO COUNCIL.
10:46:48AM THAT WILL BE GREAT.
10:46:49AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WILL DO.
10:46:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: TALKING OF THE $500,000.
10:46:54AM THAT IS THE CURRENT OR BEFORE WE PLAN THIS PROJECT, THAT IS
10:46:57AM THE AN ACTUAL LEASE PAYMENT PAYING FOR PEOPLE TO BE IN
10:47:01AM MULTIPLE PLACES AROUND THE CITY AND O&M.
10:47:04AM HOW MUCH OF THAT $500,000 A YEAR IS LEASE AND HOW MUCH OF IT
10:47:08AM IS O&M.
10:47:10AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DO YOU HAVE THAT MISS COLINA.
10:47:14AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I SURE DO.
10:47:16AM THE LEASE PORTION IS MINIMAL AND LET ME REMIND YOU THAT THE
10:47:19AM LEASE PORTION IS BASED ON A LEASE THAT WE ENTERED INTO 30
10:47:24AM YEARS AGO.
10:47:25AM SO LET ME FIND THAT BREAK DOWN.
10:47:28AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:47:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHILE YOU ARE DOING THAT, IF YOU JUST TAKE
10:47:37AM -- IF YOU JUST TAKE $500,000 A YEAR WHAT WE ARE PAYING RIGHT
10:47:42AM NOW AND MULTIPLY BY 30 YEARS UNDERSTANDING IT MAY GO UP,
10:47:46AM THAT IS ABOUT $15 MILLION.
10:47:48AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: CORRECT.
10:47:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:: VERSUS -- YOU HAVE -- TO DO AN APPLES TO
10:47:53AM APPLES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE 119 PLUS -- LET'S SAY 71 IS
10:47:57AM THE INTEREST.
10:47:58AM THAT WOULD BE 190 PLUS WHATEVER THE O&M IS OVER 30 YEARS.
10:48:04AM AND DIVIDE THAT OUT BY YEAR.
10:48:09AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AND WE HAVE RUN THAT, SIR, WITH -- AS I
10:48:13AM BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED INFLATIONARY FACTOR AND WHEN YOU DO
10:48:16AM THAT, OF COURSE, EVEN IF 3%, 5%, 7% OVER THE COURSE OF 30
10:48:22AM YEARS APPRECIABLY MORE THAN HALF A MILLION BUT WE WILL RUN
10:48:25AM THAT AND GET THAT BACK TO YOU.
10:48:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: NOT INCLUDING O&M, ABOUT $6 MILLION TO $7
10:48:32AM MILLION A YEAR.
10:48:33AM THAT $120 MILLION PLUS INTEREST, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT O&M WILL
10:48:38AM BE.
10:48:38AM BUT LET'S SAY $6 MILLION A YEAR VERSUS $500,000.
10:48:42AM I KNOW EVERYBODY NEEDS TO BE CONSOLIDATED BUT DID YOU ALL
10:48:45AM LOOK -- IF YOU COULD RENT -- HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IS IT?
10:48:52AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: 161,000 SQUARE FEET IN THE MAIN BUILDING
10:48:54AM ONLY.
10:48:54AM WE ALSO HAVE FLEET AND FACILITIES.
10:48:56AM I WILL LET YOU FINISH THAT.
10:48:58AM I DID FIND THE NUMBERS.
10:48:59AM I WILL LET YOU FINISH YOUR POINT.
10:49:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: OBVIOUSLY THIS PROJECT IS ALMOST FINISHED
10:49:05AM AND NOT TRYING TO UNDO THE PROJECT.
10:49:07AM BECAUSE OF THE PUBLICITY, THE PUBLIC ASKS A LOT OF QUESTION
10:49:13AM AND TRYING TO GET TO THE BUSINESS SO THEY CAN EXPLAIN PAYING
10:49:16AM $500,000 A YEAR.
10:49:18AM THIS THIS OTHER PROJECT PAYING $7 MILLION A YEAR MORE.
10:49:21AM BUT IT IS A 30-YEAR LEASE.
10:49:23AM SO IF SOMEBODY DID THE VALUATION TODAY'S RATE NOW AT $70 A
10:49:28AM FOOT INSTEAD OF $20.
10:49:30AM AND I -- IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THOSE KIND OF MESSAGES
10:49:33AM TO GO BACK TO THE PUBLIC.
10:49:35AM SORRY, ADRI.
10:49:39AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I DO.
10:49:40AM I THANK YOU.
10:49:41AM I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY
10:49:43AM RIGHT.
10:49:43AM A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE AND A LOT OF IT IS INACCURATE
10:49:47AM AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY.
10:49:49AM THANK YOU FOR THE PATIENCE WITH ME AS I FOUND THE NUMBERS.
10:49:52AM ANNUAL LEASE IN O &M CURRENTLY $507,000 A YEAR.
10:50:00AM AND, AGAIN, BASED ON LEASES WE ENTERED INTO 30 YEARS AGO.
10:50:03AM LEMON STREET SITE, WE PLAY O&M.
10:50:07AM NOT MORE THERE.
10:50:09AM N. BOULEVARD, CURRENTLY PAYING $121,000 A YEAR.
10:50:13AM A YEAR.
10:50:13AM CAN'T FIND THAT NOW.
10:50:15AM AND OUR EOC AN OFFICE THERE IS WE ARE PAYING $200,000 A
10:50:21AM YEAR.
10:50:21AM WHEN YOU ADD ALL THAT FOR 30 YEARS, YOU ARE LOOKING AT $15.2
10:50:26AM MILLION.
10:50:26AM LOOKING AT TODAY'S PRICES FOR RENT AND LEASE COMPARISON
10:50:31AM BASED ON CURRENT MARKET VALUE, YOU ARE LOOKING AT 2.3
10:50:35AM MILLION ANNUALLY.
10:50:36AM SO OVER 30 YEARS, WE ARE TALKING OF $69 MILLION ON A SPACE
10:50:40AM THAT WE WILL NEVER OWN.
10:50:42AM SO -- AND, AGAIN, THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE O&M THAT I DO NOT
10:50:47AM HAVE FOR YOU RIGHT NOW, BUT IT ALREADY SHOWS RIGHT THERE.
10:50:51AM YOU KNOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT $70 MILLION ON SITES THAT ARE
10:50:59AM NOT AS CONDUCIVE AND SITES SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR CUSTOMERS
10:51:04AM AND COMMUNITY AND THAT WE WILL NEVER OWN.
10:51:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU DO THE APPLES-TO-APPLES COMPARISON,
10:51:12AM WHAT WE PAY NOW, IF WE RENT 150,000 SQUARE FEET AND INTEREST
10:51:18AM AND CAPITAL AND O&M.
10:51:21AM DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE PER SQUARE FOOT LEASE RATES
10:51:25AM ARE IN THAT AREA RIGHT NOW?
10:51:27AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I DON'T.
10:51:27AM IT VARIES.
10:51:29AM VARIES BASED ON THE USE.
10:51:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: I GOT -- A LOT OF PLACES NOW -- THIS IS ON
10:51:34AM THE HIGHER END.
10:51:34AM A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE PAYING $70 A FOOT.
10:51:38AM THAT IS LIKE $11 MILLION A YEAR IF YOU HAVE THAT FOR 35,
10:51:42AM THAT IS $5.5 UNTIL A YEAR.
10:51:44AM IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE LEASE RATES ARE NOW
10:51:48AM WITH SOME KIND OF ESCALATION IN IT.
10:51:50AM AND I THINK THEN IF YOU ARE USING THOSE KIND OF COMPASSIONS
10:51:55AM YOU GET CLOSE TO THE $7 MILLION A YEAR.
10:51:57AM IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THOSE NUMBERS TO EXPLAIN TO THE
10:52:00AM PUBLIC.
10:52:01AM THANK YOU.
10:52:02AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YOU ARE WELCOME, COUNCILMAN.
10:52:04AM ONE MORE THING I WANT TO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY
10:52:07AM MINDFUL OF.
10:52:08AM COUNCIL HAS -- AND RIGHTFULLY SO, HAS BEEN VERY VOCAL OF NOT
10:52:13AM HAVING AN APPETITE FOR LEASING FACE AND OWNING IT AND HAVE
10:52:17AM SOMETHING THAT IS OURS IN THE LONG TERM IN THE BEST
10:52:20AM INTEREST.
10:52:20AM THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON WHY WE STAYED CLEAR OF THAT LEASING
10:52:24AM OPTION.
10:52:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:52:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, I DID A TOUR A FEW WEEKS AGO OF
10:52:33AM THE SPACE AND YOU TALKED ABOUT NEEDING TO COME BACK AND ASK
10:52:36AM US FOR MORE MONEY FOR THE PROJECT.
10:52:37AM THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE TOTAL.
10:52:39AM COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE MONEY YOU
10:52:43AM NEED.
10:52:46AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I WILL.
10:52:46AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:52:47AM SCHEDULED TO COME BEFORE YOU AGAIN ON FEBRUARY 16.
10:52:50AM WHAT THAT INCREASE INCLUDES -- AND, AGAIN, I JUST -- JUST
10:52:55AM LETTING YOU KNOW BEFORE HAND ARE THE VERY ASKS THAT COUNCIL
10:52:58AM HAS, THE ADDITION TO THE FLEET AND FACILITIES BUILDING FOR
10:53:02AM SOLAR PANELS.
10:53:03AM WHEN WE CAME BEFORE YOU IN ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON
10:53:09AM THE GMP, WE DID NOT HAVE THE FLEET AND FACILITIES EQUIPMENT.
10:53:13AM BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING TO BE MINDFUL OF COST.
10:53:16AM COUNCIL ASKED FOR THAT AND I THINK THAT IS A GREAT THING AND
10:53:19AM HELPED US GET THE AWARD AND WILL HELP US FOR SUSTAINABILITY
10:53:22AM IN THE FUTURE.
10:53:23AM THAT ADD, OF COURSE, WASN'T INCLUDED IN THE GMP WE HAVE NOT
10:53:28AM SOME SOONER BECAUSE REALLY WHEN A THE TIME TO ASK FOR THAT
10:53:33AM MONEY TO DO THE ORDERING AND INSTALLATION.
10:53:36AM AS THE PROGRESS HAS OCCURRED, HERE WE ARE.
10:53:38AM IT INCLUDES THE ADDITIONS OF THE EV CHARGING STATION.
10:53:44AM AND COUNCIL ASKED BUT SOMETHING WE WANTED AND NEEDED.
10:53:49AM AND EXCITED TO DO THAT ASK.
10:53:51AM AND SETS US UP IN IN THE FUTURE AND A MINOR INCREASE OF COST
10:53:56AM AND SUPPLIES.
10:53:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT WAS THE TOTAL THERE?
10:54:00AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: 3.7 MILLION.
10:54:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:54:11AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: WELCOME, COUNCILWOMAN.
10:54:12AM THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.
10:54:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:54:15AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAD TO STEP OUT FOR A MINUTE.
10:54:17AM WHAT IS GOOD FOR REPRESENT AND WHAT IS GOOD FOR OWNERSHIP.
10:54:20AM RENTERS ALWAYS WANT TOP HAVE A HOUSE TO LIVE IN.
10:54:24AM PAID FOR WHEN THIS GOVERNMENT GOES OUT AND RENTS IN ESSENCE,
10:54:33AM YOU ARE PAYING YOUR OWN AD VALOREM TAX BECAUSE IT IS
10:54:37AM INCLUDED IN THE RENT.
10:54:38AM SO WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE.
10:54:40AM WHEN YOU GO AND BUILD YOUR OWN BUILDING, AN UNINTENDED
10:54:45AM POSITIVE TO YOU BECAUSE SOMEBODY IS PAYING THAT AD VALOREM
10:54:49AM TAX AND YOU ARE NOT PAYING IT IN THAT LEASE DEAL.
10:54:52AM IT HAS TO BE FIGURED OUT.
10:54:55AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS.
10:54:56AM I THINK YOU MENTIONED LEMON STREET.
10:54:58AM THAT IS A GOVERNMENT BUILDING, ISN'T IT?
10:55:02AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YES, SIR.
10:55:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: VERY LITTLE COST IN TERMS OF RENT, AM I
10:55:05AM CORRECT?
10:55:07AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YOU ARE CORRECT.
10:55:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: VERY MINIMAL.
10:55:09AM IF IT WASN'T THAT MINIMAL, IT WOULD BE GREATER.
10:55:12AM I AM NOT AGAINST RENTING IF YOU HAVE TO RENT SOMETHING ON A
10:55:16AM SHORT-TIME BASIS.
10:55:17AM IF EVERYBODY RENTED, THERE WILL BE NO WEALTH GAINED BY
10:55:23AM ANYONE FROM THE PEOPLE TRYING TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE NOW
10:55:26AM WHO ARE DESPERATE AND I APPRECIATE EVERY OUNCE OF LABOR THEY
10:55:31AM ARE TRYING TO DO TO MOVE IN.
10:55:32AM YESTERDAY I HAD A CALL IN MY HOUSE FOR A RELATIVE LOOKING TO
10:55:36AM FIND A PLACE BECAUSE HER RENT WENT UP TWICE IN SIX MONTHS TO
10:55:41AM SOMETHING THEY CAN'T PAY.
10:55:42AM EVERYWHERE.
10:55:42AM JUST NOT ONE SECTOR BUT EVERY SECTOR.
10:55:46AM WHEN YOU RENT, YOU ARE AT THE MERCY OF EVERYONE BUT
10:55:48AM YOURSELF.
10:55:49AM THEY CAN DO THE LEASE EXPIRES.
10:55:52AM THEY DON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU THE SAME RENT.
10:55:55AM IF YOU HAVE A LEASE, AND THEY CAN SAY, I WANT ANOTHER 30% OR
10:56:01AM 40%.
10:56:01AM WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO THEN IN WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO MOVE
10:56:04AM TO?
10:56:05AM HOW DO YOU FIND A PLACE TO LIVE?
10:56:07AM THE SAME THING IN BUSINESS.
10:56:08AM AND THE HARDWARE BUSINESS.
10:56:11AM EVERYBODY HAS A WAREHOUSE, WAREHOUSING.
10:56:13AM WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM?
10:56:15AM THE SAME THING.
10:56:16AM IT IS HAPPENING ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, NOT
10:56:18AM ONLY IN TAMPA MAYBE TAMPA MORE SO BECAUSE NOW IT'S A PLACE
10:56:23AM BE.
10:56:23AM IT HAS THE HIGHEST HOTEL RATES MAYBE IN THE COUNTRY COMING
10:56:27AM IN TO PEOPLE.
10:56:27AM NOT THE RATES OF MONEY BUT THE RATES OF OCCUPANCY.
10:56:30AM SO TAMPA HAS BEEN FOUND BY PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO
10:56:37AM SPELL THE WORD TAMPA TAMPA, KANSAS.
10:56:39AM BY THE WAY THERE IS A TAMPA, KANSAS.
10:56:41AM AND MR. MANISCALCO HAD A SHIRT.
10:56:44AM BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS, IF YOU -- IF YOU OWN YOUR PROPERTY,
10:56:48AM YOU CONTROL YOUR DESTINY TO A POINT.
10:56:51AM IF YOU LEASE YOUR PROPERTY, AND YOU LIVE IN AND LEASE,
10:56:58AM SOMEONE ELSE CONTROLS YOUR DESTINY TO A BIGGER POINT.
10:57:01AM SO I ALWAYS THOUGHT IF YOU HAVE OWNERSHIP, YOU HAVE SOME
10:57:06AM VALUE.
10:57:06AM AT THE END WHEN IT IS PAID FOR.
10:57:08AM MUCH GREATER THAN WHAT YOU BOUGHT IT FOR.
10:57:12AM AND YOU CAN SEE THE MARKET PLACE GO BACK FROM THE 70s AND
10:57:16AM THE 80s EVEN TEN YEARS AGO.
10:57:17AM PEOPLE BOUGHT SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT SOMETHING THAT WAS
10:57:23AM OUT OF LINE.
10:57:24AM THE ONE THAT WAS OUT OF LINE WAS ME.
10:57:26AM PAID $300,000 AND NOW IT IS WORTH $500,000 AND INDIVIDUALS
10:57:31AM THAT UNDERSTAND THE MARKET PLACE.
10:57:33AM I AM NOT A MARKET PLAYER.
10:57:34AM I DON'T KNOW THAT GAME.
10:57:36AM I DON'T KNOW THAT BUSINESS.
10:57:37AM BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT IS BETTER TO KNOWN THAN TO LEASE.
10:57:39AM I HAVE NEVER LEASED A CAR.
10:57:42AM I HAVE PAID RENT BEFORE, BUT I HAVE NEVER LEASED A CAR.
10:57:45AM I WOULD RATHER BUY ONE.
10:57:47AM BUT ANYWAY, THAT IS JUST ME.
10:57:52AM BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:57:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:57:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:57:57AM THANK YOU.
10:57:59AM I AM LOOKING AT MY SPREADSHEET.
10:58:01AM ADRI, WHAT IS THE TOTAL COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT.
10:58:04AM WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT.
10:58:08AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I AM SORRY, ARE YOU ASKING TOTAL
10:58:10AM COMPLETION IN TERMS OF DOLLARS OR ASKING IN TERMS OF TIME
10:58:14AM FRAME.
10:58:15AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE TIME FRAME OR THE TOTAL COMPLETION OF
10:58:18AM THE PROJECT.
10:58:19AM WHAT IS THE TOTAL COMPLETION TIME.
10:58:24AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: TARGET DATE WE ARE LOOKING END OF OCTOBER.
10:58:25AM WE ARE LOOKING AT MAIN BUILDING COMPLETE THE END OF JULY OF
10:58:29AM THIS YEAR WITH THE FLEET BUILDING BEING COMPLETE THE END OF
10:58:33AM SEPTEMBER AND THE FACILITIES BUILDING END OF OCTOBER.
10:58:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
10:58:37AM I JUST GOT AN INFLUX OF 3.
10:58:39AM 7, BECAUSE YOU ADVISED THAT COUNCIL ASKED FOR SOLAR AND EVs
10:58:44AM AND INFLUX IN PRESIDENT COST OF PRICE OF $3.7 MILLION.
10:58:50AM CORRECT?
10:58:51AM COLLINS THAT'S CORRECT.
10:58:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF I AM LOOKING AT COST INCREASE AND
10:58:55AM LOOKING AT OCTOBER.
10:58:55AM WE STILL HAVE OTHER BUILDINGS.
10:58:58AM WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE COST WILL BE INCURRED THEN.
10:59:02AM LAST TIME WE ASKED FOR MONEY TO BE COMING ON THE 16th FOR
10:59:06AM $377 MILLION, CORRECT?
10:59:12AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: CORRECT.
10:59:13AM THAT IS A STRONG RESPONSIBILITY.
10:59:14AM I WILL TELL YOU THOUGH THAT WE FULLY ANTICIPATE -- TWO
10:59:17AM THINGS I WANT TO TELL YOU.
10:59:18AM ALSO INCLUDED WHEN WE COME BEFORE YOU ON THE 16th IS GOING
10:59:22AM TO BE A CREDIT OF $1 MILLION.
10:59:24AM THAT CREDIT BACK TO US IS BECAUSE OUR FACILITIES TEAM HAS
10:59:28AM BEEN ABLE TO SECURE THE FURNISHES FOR THAT BUILDING AT A
10:59:32AM MUCH LOWER COST THAN WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE GMP.
10:59:35AM AND NO SALES TAX.
10:59:36AM SO THE CORRECTION OR THE RECONCILIATION THAT WE ARE GOING TO
10:59:41AM BRING BEFORE YOU ON FEBRUARY 16 SUSPECT ONLY ASKING FOR MORE
10:59:44AM MONEY BUT REFLECTING A A BIT OF A CREDIT AND IN TERMS OF
10:59:50AM ADDITIONAL COST, WE DO EXPECT TO ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL
10:59:56AM FUNDING FOR EV EQUIPMENT.
10:59:57AM I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, A MODEST AND
11:00:05AM CONSERVATIVE NOT ASK FOR MORE THAN WE REALLY NEEDED.
11:00:09AM BUT WHEN IT LOOKED TO EQUIPPING THE COMMUNITY ROOM THAT THE
11:00:11AM COMMUNITY HAS ASKED FOR THAT YOU ALL WILL USE IN TIMES OF
11:00:15AM EMERGENCY AS A SITE WHERE YOU CAN CONDUCT YOUR COUNCIL
11:00:18AM MEETINGS THERE, WE WANT TO EQUIPMENT IT WITH THE
11:00:23AM APPROPRIATE AV EQUIPMENT AND THAT WASN'T COMPLETELY INCLUDED
11:00:25AM IN THE NOVEMBER IF 2021 GMP, AGAIN, JUST KEEPING IT
11:00:30AM CONSERVATIVE AND MODEST.
11:00:31AM BUT IF WE ARE BUILDING THAT FACILITY AND WE HAVE THAT
11:00:34AM INTENDED USE LONG TERM, LET'S SET US UP FROM SUCCESS FROM
11:00:38AM THE BEGINNING.
11:00:38AM BUT WE ALSO EXPECT ANOTHER CREDIT.
11:00:41AM SO WHAT THE NEXT TIME THAT I COME BEFORE YOU AND THAT WILL
11:00:44AM BE TOWARD THE END OF THE PROJECT.
11:00:46AM I CAN'T GIVE YOU THAT NUMBER, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE ARE
11:00:51AM WORKING VERY, VERY, VERY JOINTLY AND AGGRESSIVELY TO KEEP
11:00:56AM THE COSTS DOWN WHILE MAKING SURE WE ARE EQUIPPING OURSELVES
11:01:00AM RIGHT.
11:01:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED.
11:01:04AM I WAS THINKING THAT THE TOTAL PRICE FOR EVERYTHING WAS THE
11:01:07AM TOTAL PRICE.
11:01:09AM I DIDN'T KNOW WE HAVE NOT INCLUDED THE SOLAR OR THE AV WAS
11:01:14AM NOT INCLUDED IN THE TOTAL PRICE ONCE WE MADE THAT DECISION.
11:01:17AM BUT NOW WE ARE COMING BACK SAYING THAT IS NOT INCLUDED.
11:01:20AM AND THEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LATER ON DOWN THE LINE FOR THE
11:01:24AM TOTAL COMPLETION OF OCTOBER PROJECTS THERE COULD BE MORE
11:01:27AM COSTS OR INCREASED COSTS FOR THIS PROJECT.
11:01:32AM SO THE PUBLIC IS ALREADY A LITTLE W OOHRY ABOUT THIS
11:01:39AM PROJECT.
11:01:39AM MOVED DOWN THE ROAD SELLING THE PROJECT AND GREAT FOR EAST
11:01:43AM TAMPA FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
11:01:44AM NEW BUSINESSES TO POP UP BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME
11:01:46AM TO THE EAST SIDE AND THEY WANT TO LOOK AT THE MONEY VALUE.
11:01:50AM SO I AM HOPING THAT NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL 3.7.
11:01:55AM THAT THIS WILL NOT REALLY EXCEED ANOTHER 3.7 OR HIGHER FOR
11:02:03AM COMPLETION OF THIS PROJECT.
11:02:04AM BUT SEEMS LIKE IT WILL.
11:02:05AM SO WE NEED TO HAVE STRONG TALKS AND CONVERSATIONS BEFORE
11:02:08AM THAT HAPPENS.
11:02:09AM BECAUSE I CAN SEE THIS COUNCIL OR FUTURE COUNCIL WILL HAVE
11:02:14AM TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO THIS PROJECT.
11:02:18AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: WELL, YOU MIGHT RECALL WHEN WE CAME BEFORE
11:02:20AM YOU FOR THE DMP, WE SPECIFICALLY LAID OUT -- THE SOLAR ON
11:02:26AM THE MAIN BUILDING AND TRELLIS TO THE PARKING GARAGE IN
11:02:30AM NOVEMBER 2021 WHEN ASKED FOR YOUR APPROVAL IN THE GMP OF
11:02:36AM COST OF CONSTRUCTION.
11:02:37AM DURING THAT MEETING THE ASK WAS MADE FOR THE FLEET AND
11:02:40AM FACILITIES BUILDING.
11:02:41AM NO WAY THAT ANYONE COULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT WAS INCLUDED IF
11:02:44AM THAT CAME UP IN THAT DISCUSSION.
11:02:45AM WE AGREED TO IT.
11:02:46AM AND WE ARE HAPPY TO IT, BUT NOW HERE WE ARE KNOWING WHAT
11:02:50AM THAT COST IS.
11:02:51AM SO THAT IS WHY THAT WASN'T INCLUDED INITIALLY BECAUSE IT
11:02:55AM CAME OUT IN THAT NOVEMBER 2021 MEETING.
11:02:58AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:03:01AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THANK YOU, WELCOME, COUNCILMAN.
11:03:04AM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE MORE THING TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S
11:03:07AM POINT.
11:03:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:03:08AM I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT OWNING.
11:03:11AM BUT ANOTHER VERY, VERY POSITIVE COMPONENT OF THIS PROJECT IS
11:03:15AM WE ARE NOT MAKING OURSELVES FIT INTO AN EXISTING BUILDING.
11:03:19AM WE ARE LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND WHAT THEY
11:03:22AM WANTED.
11:03:23AM WE ARE LISTENING TO OUR EMPLOYEES WHAT THEY NEED TO BETTER
11:03:26AM SERVICE OUR CUSTOMERS.
11:03:27AM AND WE ARE NOW CREATING THAT BUILDING AROUND THOSE NEEDS
11:03:32AM RATHER THAN US FITTING INTO SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY THERE.
11:03:34AM WE ARE CREATING EXTRA PARKING THAT SOMETHING OUR CONTRACTORS
11:03:38AM COMPLAIN ABOUT CONSISTENTLY OF THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION
11:03:41AM SERVICES CENTER.
11:03:42AM THE INABILITY TO PARK.
11:03:43AM THAT IS ANOTHER PLUS OF HAVING OUR BUILDING AND DESIGN AND
11:03:46AM BUILDING IT OURSELVES.
11:03:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:03:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU MENTIONED GETTING A $1 MILLION CREDIT
11:03:55AM BACK FOR FURNISHING.
11:03:56AM DOES THAT MEAN WE ARE NOT TAKING ANY FURNISHINGS WITH US AND
11:04:00AM BUYING BRAND-NEW FURNISH CANS FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING?
11:04:06AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT AT ALL.
11:04:08AM WITHER TAKE WHAT WE CAN.
11:04:10AM BUT THE LEMON STREET, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ONE WE ARE PURCHASING
11:04:14AM THE MAJORITY FOR.
11:04:14AM WHAT IS THERE HONESTLY WHAT THE D.O.T. LEFT BEHIND.
11:04:18AM THEY VACATED THAT BUILDING MANY YEARS AGO BECAUSE THAT
11:04:21AM BUILDING IS BEING DEMOLISHED, SADLY, THAT IS WHAT OUR CITY
11:04:26AM EMPLOYEES HAVE BEEN USING THERE.
11:04:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:04:29AM I JUST WANTED THE CLARIFICATION THAT -- THAT WE AREN'T JUST,
11:04:34AM YOU KNOW, THROWING EVERYTHING OUT AND STARTING OVER.
11:04:37AM THANK YOU.
11:04:37AM I APPRECIATION 1998 THAT.
11:04:39AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: ABSOLUTELY NOT.
11:04:40AM WHAT I WANT TO TELL YOU COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WE HAVE BEEN
11:04:43AM COMMITTED TO BE MODEST AND CONSERVATIVE AND DOING IT OBJECT
11:04:48AM ALL FRONTS.
11:04:49AM THE FURNISHING THAT I AM ASKING FOR OR PURCHASING ALSO
11:04:54AM INCLUDES THE BREAK ROOMS AND THE FURNISHINGS FOR THE
11:04:57AM COMMUNITY ROOM THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE.
11:04:59AM THOSE ARE THINGS WE NEED TO BUY.
11:05:01AM WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE FURNITURE, WE ABSOLUTELY ARE.
11:05:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:05:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:05:08AM SOLAR COSTS IS BORNE BY A LOT OF THINGS.
11:05:13AM BUT WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS?
11:05:15AM FIRST OF ALL, NOT ONLY THIS COUNTRY BUT THIS WORLD IS
11:05:18AM KILLING ITSELF BY NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
11:05:22AM SOLAR IS ONE SMALL PIECE THAT WILL HELP NOT USE AS MUCH OIL
11:05:29AM OR AS MUCH OTHER HEATING EQUIPMENT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO
11:05:36AM CALL IT CREATING A ENORMOUS PROBLEM HEALTH-WISE.
11:05:40AM WE ARE ACTUALLY KILLING OURSELVES.
11:05:42AM WHAT DOES SOLAR DO?
11:05:44AM I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE I PUT SOLAR IN MY HOUSE.
11:05:46AM IT WENT -- I AM SAVING ABOUT $110 A MONTH ON A MONTH THAT
11:05:51AM YOU WOULD HAVE VERY LITTLE DUE THE WEATHER.
11:05:54AM A BEAUTIFUL MONTH.
11:05:55AM AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE AIR ON.
11:05:57AM YOU DON'T HAVE THE HEAT ON OR WHATEVER.
11:05:59AM THE WINTER MONTHS AND THE SUMMER MONTHS FROM MY MODEST BILL,
11:06:05AM I SAVE $140 TO $150.
11:06:07AM MY BILL HAS NOT BEEN MORE THAN $34 A MONTH.
11:06:12AM WELL, BECAUSE OF THE HEAT.
11:06:14AM I AM SAYING THAT IS OFTEN THE ON THE HIGH SIDE.
11:06:17AM LOW SIDE, CONSTANT $24 A MONTH.
11:06:19AM SO WHAT THAT DOES IS AN EXPENSE, BUT IT IS NOT ONLY AN
11:06:25AM EXPENSE -- AN EXPENSE AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN IT IS PAID
11:06:29AM FOR IN REVERSE.
11:06:30AM YOU ARE COLLECTING 100% OF THAT PROFIT THAT YOU ARE NOT
11:06:36AM SPENDING.
11:06:36AM BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST INVOLVED.
11:06:39AM THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE NEVER FIGURED IN, BUT I CAN TELL
11:06:43AM YOU THAT IT IS -- IT MAKES A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE.
11:06:45AM AND I SEE MORE AND MORE HOUSES ALL OVER THE CITY, ESPECIALLY
11:06:49AM OF ALL THINGS IN WEST TAMPA EVERYTHING -- EVERY TIME I DRIVE
11:06:54AM AROUND I SEE ONE HOUSE WITH SOLAR ON EVERY BLOCK.
11:06:57AM SOMEBODY IS CATCHING ON AND SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO DO THE
11:07:00AM RIGHT THING.
11:07:01AM THAT IS ALL, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:07:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:07:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: A QUICK STATEMENT.
11:07:06AM IN BUSINESS OR GOVERNMENT PUBLIC POLICY ANALYSIS, YOU HAVE
11:07:10AM TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES.
11:07:11AM WE LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS WITH PURE OR WHATEVER WE
11:07:15AM ARE CALLING IT NOW BUT THING WITH ANY MAJOR CAPITAL PROJECT
11:07:21AM OR VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES.
11:07:25AM AND THE TIME TO DO THAT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
11:07:28AM I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT THE REASON I ASK QUESTIONS OF
11:07:31AM HOW MUCH IT COSTS TO RENT VERSUS BUY, IS NOT MAKING THE
11:07:36AM ARGUMENT OF ONE VERSUS THE OTHER BUT A REASONABLE
11:07:39AM ALTERNATIVE TO MAKE THE BUSINESS CASE.
11:07:40AM THE SAME THING WITH THE INCINERATOR.
11:07:43AM I ASKED THE QUESTION HOW MUCH WILL IT BE TO SEND TO THE LAND
11:07:46AM FILL.
11:07:46AM THEY CAME BACK WITH A TEN-MINUTE VIDEO WHY PUTTING A LAND
11:07:50AM MILL DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
11:07:51AM THE IDEA WAS NOT TO SHIFT TO PUT IT IN THE LAND FILL.
11:07:54AM THE IDEA IS WHAT ARE THE 589 I HAVE IT COSTS IN THIS CASE, I
11:07:59AM DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REAL NUMBERS ARE BUT LET'S SAY RENTING
11:08:03AM AND PUT AN ESCALATION CLAUSE.
11:08:05AM A RENTAL MODEL SAID WE WOULD HAVE PAID $5 MILLION A YEAR FOR
11:08:09AM $161,000 SQUARE FEET -- BY THE WAY YOU CAN GET PURPOSE BUILT
11:08:14AM INVESTORS -- PRIVATE INVESTORS LIKE POST OFFICE AND
11:08:17AM EVERYBODY ELSE.
11:08:18AM THEY WILL DO LONG-TERM CONTRACTS.
11:08:20AM IF YOU CREATED A LONG-TERM LEASE $5 MILLION A YEAR VERSUS
11:08:25AM SPENDING 7 OR 8 -- WHATEVER IS WITH O&M AND ALL OF THE OTHER
11:08:32AM COSTS LEGITIMATELY SAY TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE LOOKED AT
11:08:36AM ALTERNATIVES AND BUYING A -- AND $3 MILLION MORE A YEAR AND
11:08:44AM HERE ARE THE REASONS WHY WE THINK IT IS BETTER.
11:08:46AM IN BEST CASE WE WILL SAVE MONEY.
11:08:49AM AND I THINK THAT JUST TO SHOW THAT WE ARE BEING THOROUGH AND
11:08:54AM TRANSPARENT WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE COME.
11:09:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ROGERO, THE HANNA STREET BUILDING.
11:09:09AM HOW MANY OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS OWN LAND OR HOW MUCH ARE ON
11:09:13AM CITY OWNED LAND?
11:09:19AM >> I DON'T KNOW MISS COLINA OR MISS DUNCAN MAY KNOW.
11:09:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WEST TAMPA, IS NOT CITY OWNED LAND?
11:09:31AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: LEMON STREET, WE ARE RENTING THAT FROM
11:09:35AM ANOTHER ENTITY NOT GOVERNMENTAL AND NOT OUR LAND.
11:09:38AM FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MAY HAVE A MAP OF WHERE ALL THESE
11:09:41AM LOCATIONS ARE, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT.
11:09:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BIG BLUE ACROSS THE STREET.
11:09:49AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT IS OURS.
11:09:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOING OUT TO HANNA STREET.
11:09:54AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: NO.
11:09:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOOD NOW, THANK YOU.
11:09:57AM THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO.
11:09:59AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I WANT TO SAY ONE MORE THING TO COUNCILMAN
11:10:02AM CARLSON'S POINT.
11:10:03AM ABSOLUTELY RENTING WAS.
11:10:06AM COULD HAVE BEEN AN OPTION AND WE HAVE CONSIDERED YOU KNOW
11:10:12AM MANY THINGS TO GET TO THIS.
11:10:13AM I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO HAVE THE FALSE IMPRESSION WE DIDN'T
11:10:17AM CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES, WE DID, BUT REMEMBER, TOO, FOLLOWING
11:10:21AM COVID, WE HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT KIND OF ARE OUT OF OUR
11:10:24AM CONTROL.
11:10:24AM WE REALLY WANTED TO CONTROL OUR DESTINY LITTLE MORE.
11:10:28AM HAVE OUR SITE.
11:10:29AM AND SET US UP FOR CONSISTENT LOCATIONS MOVING TO ONE SITE.
11:10:34AM AND JUST SERVING OUR CUSTOMERS THE BEST FOR THE LONG TERM.
11:10:38AM WE CONSIDERED IT ALL AND WE DO BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST
11:10:42AM OPTION.
11:10:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:10:45AM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:10:52AM >>BRAD BAIRD: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY
11:10:55AM ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:10:57AM IF I COULD GET THE SLIDE.
11:11:00AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:11:01AM EXCITED TO TALK TO YOU THIS MORNING ABOUT THE PIPES PROGRAM.
11:11:04AM IT IS THE LARGEST INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAM IN TAMPA'S HISTORY.
11:11:08AM AS YOU RECALL, IT WAS PASSED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2019 FOR $2.9
11:11:17AM BILLION.
11:11:18AM I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE BUSINESS CASE THAT WE DID IN
11:11:24AM THAT PRIOR YEAR INCLUDED FOUR MASTER PLANS WITH EXTENSIVE
11:11:30AM REVIEW OF THE DATA OF THE EXISTING SYSTEMS FOR BOTH
11:11:37AM TREATMENT PLANTS, ALL THE PUMPING STATIONS IN EACH
11:11:40AM DEPARTMENT, AND THE COLLECTION SYSTEM, WASTEWATER COLLECTION
11:11:45AM SYSTEM AND WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM.
11:11:48AM AGAIN FOUR SEPARATE MASTER PLANS TO GET US TO THE POINT TO
11:11:51AM WHERE WE HAD A PRIORITY LIST OF PROJECTS AND ALTERNATIVES TO
11:11:58AM PRESENT TO YOU.
11:11:58AM THAT SEPTEMBER.
11:12:00AM WE ARE THREE AND A HALF YEARS INTO THIS PROGRAM, WHICH IS
11:12:08AM APPROXIMATELY 17% OF THAT 20 YEARS.
11:12:10AM HOWEVER, WE HAVE SO FAR FOR -- WE HAD 115 PROJECTS UNDER THE
11:12:19AM PIPES PROGRAM IN VARIOUS STAGES OF DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION OAR
11:12:26AM OR EVEN MANY WE CLOSED OUT.
11:12:29AM WE COMPLETED THEM.
11:12:30AM AND THAT TOTALS $1.2 BILLION OR 41% OF THE $2.9 BILLION.
11:12:37AM SO TIME-WISE, WE ARE 17% IN.
11:12:40AM DOLLAR-WISE, OVER 40% IN.
11:12:43AM SO I -- I WILL STOP THERE IF YOU WANT ME TO GO THROUGH EAST
11:12:48AM OF THE 115 PROJECTS -- I AM KIDDING.
11:12:51AM BUT WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON ANY CONCERN YOU
11:12:56AM HAVE ON THE PROGRAM OR ANY OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
11:12:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:13:03AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:13:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY.
11:13:06AM YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR
11:13:09AM HEAD.
11:13:09AM TALK OF THE BUSINESS CASE, THE BUSINESS CASE AT THE TIME WAS
11:13:12AM THE COST THAT IT -- THAT -- TO AD HOC REPAIRS.
11:13:18AM IF A PIPE BURST, YOU HAVE TO SEND AN EMERGENCY TEAM IN.
11:13:21AM YOU HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR THAT AND YOU HAVE TO REPAIR.
11:13:24AM SO AS YOU DID THE TIMELINE, I HAVE THE WHOLE CHART IN MY
11:13:28AM HEAD.
11:13:28AM YOU DID THE TIMELINE, A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE TO REPAIR ON
11:13:32AM AN AD HOC BASIS THAN TO PREEMPTIVELY DO THIS.
11:13:37AM IN THAT CASE AS I REMEMBER, THERE WAS A VERY STRONG
11:13:40AM ALTERNATIVE CASE IT WAS A LOT CHEAPER FOR THE PUBLIC IF WE
11:13:43AM DID IT PROACTIVELY, CORRECT?
11:13:45AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCILMAN.
11:13:48AM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
11:13:49AM AT THAT TIME, IF YOU RECALL, WE GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF THE
11:13:53AM WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT AND COSTING US $20 MILLION A YEAR JUST
11:13:57AM FOR THE REPAIRS.
11:13:59AM THOSE COSTS HAVE GONE UP IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
11:14:04AM SAME WITH WATER LINE BREAKS.
11:14:05AM IF YOU WERE REACTIVE, THE COSTS ARE MUCH GREATER THAN IF YOU
11:14:09AM CAN BE PROACTIVE.
11:14:10AM SO THANK YOU.
11:14:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:14:14AM THANK YOU, MR. BAIRD.
11:14:16AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
11:14:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:14:47AM OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
11:14:51AM UNDER THE PROJECTS TODAY, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION,
11:14:57AM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THEM.
11:14:57AM SO WE ARE GOING TO TAG TEAM.
11:14:59AM THE FIRST ONE WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT BEFORE YOU IS THE EAST
11:15:03AM TAMPA RECREATION CENTER.
11:15:04AM AS I PRESENT IT TO YOU RECENTLY, WE ARE IN THE -- WE HAVE
11:15:11AM ISSUED THE NOTICE TO PROCEED FOR THIS PROJECT.
11:15:15AM THE REASON THIS PROJECT WAS NEEDED AND IT WAS ESSENTIAL THAT
11:15:18AM THE BUILDING IN AND OF EXPECTED SELF WAS OVER 30 YEARS OLD
11:15:29AM NOT ONLY THAT WHEN I FIRST CAME ON BOARD WE GOT NUMEROUS
11:15:34AM COMPLAINTS FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF RATS IN THE BUILDING
11:15:35AM AND HOW THE BUILDING HAD NOT BEEN RENOVATED.
11:15:38AM IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS.
11:15:44AM WE COMMITTED TO OF DOING A COMPLETE REPLACEMENT OF THE
11:15:47AM RECREATION CENTER AS WELL AS IN ADDITION TO THE BUILDING TO
11:15:51AM MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:15:56AM AS I MENTIONED A NOTICE TO PROCEED WAS AWARDED AND NOT GIVEN
11:16:00AM TO, BUT WAS AWARDED TO SKANSKA IN NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
11:16:10AM THEY ARE THE PROCESS OF GATHERING DATA AND DOING SITE
11:16:14AM WORK AND PREPARATIONS FOR THE PROJECT.
11:16:16AM WE EXPECT THAT TO BE COMPLETED THIS MONTH, BY THE END OF
11:16:21AM THIS MONTH, BEGINNING OF NEXT MONTH.
11:16:23AM AND WE WILL START PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
11:16:27AM THE FIRST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT IS SCHEDULED FOR THE 15TH OF
11:16:32AM FEBRUARY.
11:16:32AM AND THEN WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON FEBRUARY 18 AS WELL.
11:16:36AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, I KNOW IT WAS YOUR CONCERN THAT WE WOULD
11:16:40AM NOT HAVE NINE MONTHS OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
11:16:43AM WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
11:16:45AM 37 WE HAVE DECREASED THAT TIME SO WE CAN GET THE INPUT AND
11:16:49AM THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED SO WE CAN FUNNEL THAT TO THE
11:16:53AM DESIGN TEAM AS THEY ARE DESIGNING THE BUILDING.
11:16:55AM WE ARE -- RIGHT NOW, WE ARE AT -- WE EXPECT 30% DESIGN
11:17:01AM REVEAL IN MARCH.
11:17:03AM AS WE GET TO THOSE DESIGN PHASES, WE WILL COMMUNICATE THAT
11:17:07AM OUT TO YOU AND TO THE PUBLIC.
11:17:08AM AND AFTER WE GET THE COMPLETE INPUT FOR THE DESIGN, WE
11:17:15AM EXPECT THAT TO BE COMPLETED THIS YEAR, BEFORE THE END OF
11:17:19AM THIS YEAR.
11:17:19AM I WANT TO SET AND MANAGE YOUR EXPECTATIONS THAT THIS IS A
11:17:24AM HUGE PROJECT.
11:17:24AM SO WHEN WE WENT BEFORE THE COMMUNITY BEFORE, WE COMMUNICATED
11:17:28AM THAT THIS WOULD TAKE -- THIS PROJECT -- BECAUSE IT IS GOING
11:17:32AM TO BE DONE PROPERLY WILL TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS TO COMPLETION.
11:17:36AM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING.
11:17:38AM >> SHERRY SHAH HILLS, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
11:17:42AM LIKE OCEA SAID, WE HAVE THE PERIOD OF WHICH WE WILL INPUT
11:17:46AM FROM THE COMMUNITY WILL BE A SHORT PERIOD AND MANAGE
11:17:49AM EXPECTATIONS AS WE HEARD A LOT OF NUMEROUS THINGS THAT WANT
11:17:52AM TO BE IN THIS PARK BUT TO MANAGE WHAT COULD ACTUALLY BE IN
11:17:56AM THIS PARK.
11:17:57AM AS SHE SAID BEFORE, THIS CAMPUS.
11:17:59AM WE HAD ISSUES WITH IT.
11:18:01AM EXPAND IT.
11:18:02AM FROM THREE ACRES TO TEN ACRES.
11:18:04AM VACATE TWO ROADS TO MAKE IT VERY SAFE BUT ALSO MAKE A
11:18:08AM MULTIGENERATIONAL FACILITY THAT WILL LAST THROUGHOUT THE
11:18:10AM YEAR.
11:18:10AM WE ARE NOT JUST THINKING OF THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR, BUT FOR
11:18:14AM THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO HAVE A MULTIGENERATIONAL FACILITY
11:18:19AM WITH SEARCH ASPECTS THAT ARE AGE IF A CIVIC FOR OUR SENIOR
11:18:24AM CENTER, YOUTH OR TEENS, THAT THAT IS HOW THIS COMMUNITY --
11:18:28AM THIS COMPONENT IS GOING TO BE BUILT.
11:18:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL GUDES.
11:18:33AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, LADIES, FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
11:18:36AM WHOLE DESIGN -- THE WHOLE PURPOSE BEFORE AL BARNES.
11:18:40AM BUT CONSENSUS WITH THE MAY I DON'T REMEMBER AND ENGAGED AND
11:18:43AM MADE IT ONE BIG PROJECT, WHICH I AM HAPPY FOR THAT.
11:18:45AM I AM GLAD THAT WE KNOCKED THIS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT DOWN,
11:18:51AM BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED A YEAR OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR
11:18:54AM THIS PROJECT.
11:18:54AM WE KNOW OUR NEEDS.
11:18:55AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE COMMUNITIES ARE AT THE TABLE.
11:18:59AM I WANT TO KNOW WHERE ARE THE PUBLIC MEETINGS GOING TO BE AT?
11:19:05AM >> WE WILL MEET WITH OUR CONTACTS, BUT AT COMMUNITY CENTERS.
11:19:13AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE A MEETING ON THE 15th AND THE 18th.
11:19:15AM WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MEETINGS ARE IN A NEUTRAL PLACE.
11:19:19AM I DON'T WANT OWNERSHIP OF ONE PLACE OR THE OTHER.
11:19:21AM I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR BECAUSE I WANT EVERYONE TO BE
11:19:24AM INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS AND WE MOVE DOWN THE ROAD.
11:19:26AM BY KNOW TWO YEARS IS A WHILE.
11:19:28AM BUT LIKE I SAID, THE HANNA PROJECT IS MOVING.
11:19:32AM AND NO REASON THAT THIS PROJECT CAN'T MOVE AS FAST AS THE
11:19:38AM HANNA PROJECT IS MOVING.
11:19:40AM I WANT TO PUT THAT OUT NOW.
11:19:41AM NO NEED THIS PROJECT HAS BE DELAYED, DELAYED WHEN HANNA IS
11:19:46AM MOVING AND HANNA WILL BE DONE IN OCTOBER FROM MR. BAIRD AND
11:19:51AM MISS COLINA IN '23, THIS YEAR.
11:19:56AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT KICKING THIS CAN DOWN THE
11:19:59AM ROAD.
11:19:59AM IT NEEDS TO BE BUILT.
11:20:01AM DON'T WANT COMMUNITY TO SAY HOW COME IT IS NOT READY YET.
11:20:06AM IF IT NEEDS TO BE BUILT, NO DIFFERENT THAN THE HANNA
11:20:10AM PROJECT.
11:20:10AM THEY ARE ASKING EVERY DAY FOR THAT.
11:20:13AM HANNA IS MOVING AND I KEEP TELLING PEOPLE IN THE
11:20:17AM DESIGN-BUILD PHASE AND HAVE MEETINGS AND HOPEFULLY HAVE THIS
11:20:21AM DESIGN PUT OUT TO SEE WHERE WE GET STARTED WITH DIRT BEING
11:20:25AM LIFTED.
11:20:26AM A BIG PROJECT FOR EAST TAMPA.
11:20:28AM EVERYBODY IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
11:20:30AM AGAIN, WENT THROUGH HANNA AND CAME ON BOARD WITH HANNA
11:20:34AM BECAUSE THEY SEE THINGS CAN BE PROSPEROUS IN THE CITY FOR
11:20:38AM EAST TAMPA.
11:20:38AM BUT ALSO WANT WHAT THEY WANT AS WELL.
11:20:40AM BECAUSE NOT HANNA -- HANNA TOLD WHAT THEY WANTED.
11:20:45AM NEED TO GET IT BUILT.
11:20:47AM AGAIN, NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE RENAMING.
11:20:49AM WE NEED TO GET THAT -- OFF THE TABLE.
11:20:53AM AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILMEMBERS KNOW THAT THAT
11:20:58AM COMMUNITY WAS NEVER CALLED FAIR OAKS.
11:21:00AM THE PARK WAS CALLED FAIR OAKS.
11:21:02AM TWO, FAIR OAKS WAS AN AREA FOR OAK TREES.
11:21:09AM THEN MR. GAMBRIL THAT WE GAVE A COMMENDATION TOO.
11:21:16AM HE AND OTHERS SAY NOT EQUITY FOR KIDS WITH FOOTBALL THINGS
11:21:21AM OF THAT NATURE AND THE OAK TREES AND THEY PUT THE NAME
11:21:26AM "FAIR" IN FRONT OF OAKS AND THAT IS HOW FAIR OAKS WAS
11:21:29AM DEVELOPED.
11:21:29AM AGAIN MR. GAMBRIL WAS THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS THE MANAGER OF
11:21:35AM THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.
11:21:37AM MOST OF OUR LONGEST EMPLOYEES WERE HIRED BY MR. GAMBRIL.
11:21:45AM AND ASKED FOR THIS TO BE DONE.
11:21:47AM MISS BETTY BELL, THE CATALYST OF THE SENIOR CENTER.
11:21:52AM PEOPLE WANT -- THE PROJECT IS THE EAST TAMPA REGIONAL CENTER
11:21:55AM AND HOPEFULLY MR. GAMBRIL'S NAME SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE.
11:22:00AM HOPEFULLY MISS BELL'S NAME COULD BE ON THE SENIOR CENTER AND
11:22:05AM THE WHITES -- VERY CALLED ME AND I SAID MAYBE DOWN THE LINE,
11:22:12AM BUT WE PROBABLY HAVE TWO NAMES TO PUT ON THAT PARK.
11:22:15AM BUT GRATEFUL FOR IT.
11:22:16AM FOR GIVING US A CALL.
11:22:18AM SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND I MET WITH JAZZY SENIORS.
11:22:23AM I TOLD THEM THE SAME THING WITH IN REFERENCE TO MR. GAMBRIL
11:22:28AM AND MISS BELL.
11:22:29AM I TOLD THE COMMUNITY GROUPS THE SAME THING.
11:22:32AM THE COUNCIL HAS TOLD THE COMMUNITY WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE,
11:22:35AM HOW WE CAN CHANGE THE STIGMA.
11:22:38AM HOW WE CAN BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER WITH TOGETHERNESS FOR ALL
11:22:42AM THOSE PARKS, ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS AND THE AMENITIES THAT
11:22:45AM WILL COME TO THEM.
11:22:46AM I WILL TAKE THE BRUNT ON OTHER HITS, I HAVE SAID THAT
11:22:51AM MR. GAMBRIL NEEDS TO BE A PART OF THAT PARK.
11:22:53AM HE WAS THE CATALYST OF THAT AREA THERE.
11:22:56AM AND I STAND FIRM ON THAT.
11:22:57AM SOME PEOPLE SAY FAIR OAKS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME
11:23:01AM FROM, BUT I BARB I EXPRESS MY CONCERNS AND DOING IT PUBLICLY
11:23:05AM RIGHT NOW.
11:23:05AM I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT.
11:23:09AM TIME IN FAVOR OF THE REGIONAL.
11:23:12AM I AM IN FAVOR OF MR. GAMBRIL BEING ON THERE.
11:23:16AM AGAIN, I MADE THAT CLEAR TO ALL THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:23:19AM AND THEY KNOW WHERE I STAND ON THAT.
11:23:21AM AND THEY HAVE BEEN -- YOU ARE RIGHT, DID WHAT HE NEEDED TO
11:23:26AM DO FOR OUR PEOPLE, FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
11:23:28AM AND I KNOW THERE ARE A GROUP OVER THERE THAT IS GETTING
11:23:32AM TOGETHER TO GET A COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OVER THERE.
11:23:34AM I WAS AT THAT MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
11:23:38AM I TOLD HIM MY SENTIMENTS THEN.
11:23:41AM DON'T CARE ABOUT THE BUILDING WHEN IT IS REERECTED TO HAVE
11:23:47AM FAIR OAKS ON THE BUILDING.
11:23:48AM NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
11:23:49AM NO ISSUE WITH THAT.
11:23:50AM I TAKE ISSUE THAT WE DON'T GIVE HOMAGE TO A MAN WHO WAS THE
11:23:54AM CATALYST OF THAT FACILITY IN THAT COMMUNITY.
11:23:57AM SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HEARS
11:24:00AM ME, MISS HILLS AND MISS OCEA WYNN.
11:24:05AM I HAVE BEEN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG AND I TOLD HIS McGREGOR
11:24:08AM WHAT I AM HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH FOR THAT COMMUNITY OVER
11:24:12AM THERE, A TOGETHERNESS FOR ALL.
11:24:14AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
11:24:15AM I WILL ASK FOR PERIODIC UPDATES BECAUSE THEY ARE HUNGRY AND
11:24:20AM STARVING.
11:24:20AM THEY ARE READY.
11:24:21AM THEY KEEP ASKING ME ALL THE TIME.
11:24:23AM READY TO SHED LIGHT TODAY.
11:24:25AM THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
11:24:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:24:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS.
11:24:34AM NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE COMPLAINT COMING FROM ALL OVER THE CITY.
11:24:37AM I HAVE COMPLAINTS IN MY DISTRICT CONSTANTLY OF BENCHES
11:24:41AM FALLING APART.
11:24:41AM LACK OF PAINTING AND KIND OF THINGS AT PARKS FACILITIES.
11:24:46AM SOMEBODY MIGHT BE WATCHING THIS AND SAY, WHY IS THIS PARK
11:24:50AM BEING BUILT LIKE THIS.
11:24:51AM I JUST WANT TO SAY AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF NOT OF THIS
11:24:54AM DISTRICT.
11:24:55AM AS I HAVE GONE AROUND FOR PARKS IN THE CITY.
11:24:59AM THIS IS THE WORSE IF NOT ONE OF THE WORST THAT I HAVE SEEN.
11:25:02AM THE COMMUNITY DEMANDED WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
11:25:06AM WE WENT OUT THERE CITY SITTING AS A CRA BOARD AND A LARGE
11:25:11AM NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOWED UP FROM THE COMMUNITY AND THEY
11:25:14AM POINTED OUT NOT EQUAL AND EQUITABLE INVESTMENT.
11:25:18AM OTHER PARKS HAVE BASIC AMENITIES.
11:25:21AM THIS PARK AND THE PARKS SURROUND IT.
11:25:24AM AL BARNES AND OTHERS, IN THE YEARS JUST PRIOR TO US COMING
11:25:32AM ON BOARD A COUPLE OF PROPOSALS TO SPEND $375,000 JUST TO
11:25:36AM RENOVATE IT.
11:25:37AM NOT PAINTED OR TOUCHED UP FOR A LONG TIME AND SIGNIFICANTLY
11:25:42AM RENOVATED IN DECADES.
11:25:43AM WHEN I DID THE -- THE PROPOSALS TO RENOVATE WERE REJECTED
11:25:48AM BEFORE OUR TIME.
11:25:49AM WHEN WE WENT TO THE PUBLIC MEETING, THE COMMUNITY COMPLAINED
11:25:54AM IT WAS A FIRE TRAP.
11:25:55AM THEY COMPLAINED IT DIDN'T HAVE BASIC AMENITIES THAT OTHER
11:25:58AM PARKS HAD.
11:25:59AM AND THEY SAID RATS IN THE CEILING.
11:26:01AM I THINK THE CITY ONLY CAUGHT ONE IN THE END.
11:26:03AM BUT COMPLAINING THAT RAT HAIRS WERE FALLING DOWN AND KIDS
11:26:07AM AND OTHERS DIDN'T WANT TO GO THERE AND NOT A CONDITION WE
11:26:10AM WANT IN A CITY THAT WANTS TO BE WORLD-CLASS.
11:26:12AM WE ALL AGREE THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF INVESTMENT.
11:26:15AM I THINK AT THE TIME WE WERE LOOKING AT -- I WAS THINKING
11:26:19AM BALL PARK $4 TO $5 MILLION.
11:26:23AM AND THE MAYOR CAME BACK TO COMBINE BUDGETS FROM SEVERAL
11:26:26AM PARKS.
11:26:26AM THE NUMBER I REMEMBER AT THE TIME AROUND $14 MILLION.
11:26:29AM I LOOK AT THIS BUDGET AND NOW $41 MILLION.
11:26:32AM CAN YOU TELL US -- IF I REMEMBER INCORRECTLY, I APOLOGIZE.
11:26:36AM TELL US PROGRESSION OF THE BUDGET AND I HAVE ONE MORE
11:26:38AM QUESTION AFTER THAT.
11:26:39AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: OUR BID WAS PUT OUT FOR THAT AND THE
11:26:45AM PROGRESSION WENT WITH -- WE EXPANDED THE FOOTPRINT.
11:26:48AM WE LOOKED AT IT INITIAL ALY THREE ACRES.
11:26:51AM NOW LOOKING AT TEN ACRES.
11:26:54AM WE PURCHASED A PROPERTY TO EXPAND IT.
11:26:57AM ONE BEING THE PENNY SAVER.
11:26:58AM THE COST WITH THE EXPANSION FROM THREE TO TEN ACRES AND
11:27:03AM ALIKE COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID, INCLUDING EVERYBODY IN THE
11:27:07AM COMMUNITY AND TAKING INTO THAT ACCOUNT AND PUBLIC INPUT WHAT
11:27:09AM NEEDS TO BE ON THIS TEN-ACRE CAMPUS.
11:27:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU TELL US WHERE THAT $41 MILLION IS
11:27:15AM COMING FROM AND OVER HOW MANY YEARS?
11:27:25AM I WILL ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION WHILE HE IS COMING UP.
11:27:27AM WORK ON A CITY WIDE PLAN FOR PARKS AND CONSTITUENCIES SAYING
11:27:32AM WHY IS MY PARK NOT BEING RENOVATED AND MY PARK.
11:27:38AM AND WE HAVE A PLAN COMING THAT SAYS THIS ONE HAVEN'T BEEN
11:27:41AM RENOVATED IN 10 YEARS OR THIS ONE IN 20 YEARS.
11:27:44AM WE WILL LOOK AT IT, A REGARDLESS OF POLITICS.
11:27:48AM WHEN IS THAT PRIORITY LIST COMING?
11:27:51AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: I WILL TOUCH ON THAT.
11:27:53AM A DRAFT THAT IS READY NOW.
11:27:55AM WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND OUT TO THE
11:27:57AM COMMUNITY.
11:27:58AM AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET THEIR INPUT AND SAY HERE IS WHAT
11:28:04AM IT IS.
11:28:04AM WE, BEING THE CONSULTANT, TO TELL THEM THEIR FINDS AND TOOK
11:28:09AM ALL 191 PARKS INCLUDING RECREATION CENTERS AND BROKE THEM
11:28:13AM DOWN IN PRIORITY LISTS AND.
11:28:16AM >>Chris: ED THEM OUT IN THE 15 TO 20 YEARS.
11:28:18AM TELLS YOU THE FIRST FEW YEARS WHERE ARE THE PRIORITIES.
11:28:22AM WHAT ARE THOSE HIGH NEEDS.
11:28:24AM WHAT HAVEN'T BEEN DONE.
11:28:26AM WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND WHAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH ESCALATION
11:28:30AM OF COST.
11:28:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN WILL WE GET IT?
11:28:32AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: THE NEXT TWO MONTHS.
11:28:34AM THE NEXT THING IS TO MEET WITH DENNIS'S OFFICE TO LOOK AT
11:28:37AM THE NUMBERS AND COME BACK WITH YOU AND THE COMMUNITY BEFORE
11:28:40AM YOU TAKE THE DRAFT OFF AND HAVE THE FINAL DOCUMENT.
11:28:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: VERY HELPFUL IN ROADS.
11:28:45AM A ONCE IN 70-YEAR BUDGET AND THEY GET VERY UPSET
11:28:50AM UNDERSTANDABLY IF THEIR ROAD IS FALLING APART AND PARKS.
11:28:53AM I AM HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN MOVE IT PARTst FASTER KNOWING THE
11:28:57AM LIMITATION OF BUDGET.
11:28:57AM MR. ROGERO.
11:29:01AM YOU WERE LOOK TO TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET.
11:29:02AM WHAT IS -- ONCE THE BIGGER FOOTPRINT WAS DECIDED, A SMALLER
11:29:08AM FOOTPRINT AND INCREASED SINCE THEN?
11:29:11AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MISS HILLS SAID, $15 MILLION OR $18
11:29:15AM MILLION.
11:29:16AM NO.
11:29:16AM NOT ONLY THE SCOPE EXPANDED.
11:29:20AM WHAT WE INTEND TO OFFER AT THIS PARK WAS EXPAND.
11:29:24AM FORTUNATELY BEFORE WE WENT OUT FOR DEBT SERVICE AND YOU SEE
11:29:28AM IT ON THE SHEET FOR JUST OVER $36 MILLION.
11:29:31AM WE HAD COALESCED AND MADE THE FINAL DECISION AND DEBT
11:29:36AM SERVICE ON NONAD VALOREM BOND LAST YEAR.
11:29:40AM YOU SEE A LITTLE ABOVE THAT IN 2021.
11:29:43AM ISSUED AN INITIAL DEBT SERVICE BELIEVED FOR DESIGN TO GET
11:29:47AM THE PROJECT STARTED.
11:29:48AM OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT WAS DEBT
11:29:52AM SERVICE.
11:29:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW IS THAT PAID?
11:29:55AM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG -- IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THE PARKS
11:29:57AM BUDGET $5 MILLION A YEAR.
11:29:58AM DOES THAT MEAN NOW $4 MILLION BECAUSE SPENDING $1 MILLION TO
11:30:04AM PAY THIS DEBT SERVICE.
11:30:05AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE WILL PAY THIS OUT OF OUR DEBT SERVICE
11:30:08AM FUND.
11:30:08AM INITIATES AS YOU SEE HERE NONAD VALOREM.
11:30:11AM GENERAL FUND AND NOT PROPERTY TAXES AND WE WILL SIMPLY PAY
11:30:15AM THAT FROM OUR FUND FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS.
11:30:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
11:30:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:30:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:30:23AM I SEEM TO BELIEVE THIS HAD AN ALL ABILITIES WORK SECTION TO
11:30:29AM IT REQUEST PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
11:30:31AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: THE PLAYGROUND, YES.
11:30:33AM EVERYTHING WE ARE PUTTING IN THERE WILL BE INCLUSIVE.
11:30:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: I REMEMBER HEARING THAT.
11:30:37AM WE HAD THE NEW TAMPA GROUNDBREAKING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
11:30:40AM I DON'T THINK ANYONE FROM COUNCIL WAS THERE.
11:30:43AM BUT A REALLY, REALLY GREAT EVENT AND WE GOT TO SEE MORE OF
11:30:48AM THOSE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:30:50AM GOOD TO SEE IT IN EAST TAMPA WITH MacFARLANE PARK AND EAST
11:30:58AM TAMPA AND NEW COMPANY AND REALLY IMPORTANT.
11:31:00AM I LOVE TO SEE IT.
11:31:01AM AND I MOTIONED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO FOR THE CRA AREAS FOR
11:31:08AM SPECIAL NEEDS PARKS AS WELL.
11:31:09AM THAT IS GREAT TO SEE.
11:31:10AM I REMEMBER OUR FIRST DAY ON CITY COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN GUDES,
11:31:14AM I THINK I -- I DON'T KNOW -- SOMETHING I WAS TALKING ABOUT
11:31:17AM SPECIAL NEEDS AND COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED THAT.
11:31:21AM SO I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT HAPPEN MANUFACTURE.
11:31:25AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR ALIS DRUMGO AND I
11:31:28AM WILL BE BACK IN A FEW WEEKS TO TALK WITH THE CRA FOR ADA
11:31:35AM ACCESSIBILITY FOR PARKS.
11:31:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:31:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO TOUCH MORE ON WHAT COUNCILMAN
11:31:41AM CARLSON WAS SAYING OF THE MASTER PLAN.
11:31:43AM I GOT ANOTHER E-MAIL JUST THIS WEEK SAYING, HEY, THIS WAS
11:31:47AM SUPPOSED TO BE SIX MONTHS AGO AND FOLLOWED ON BY AN E-MAIL
11:31:52AM SENT SIX MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT.
11:31:55AM WHEN WE ARE DOING THIS -- I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO COME BACK
11:31:59AM BUT A QUICK DETAILS OR UPDATE, WHAT TYPE OF PUBLIC OUTREACH
11:32:03AM ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO.
11:32:04AM JUST BRIEF.
11:32:05AM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE -- AND TIME FRAME FOR THAT.
11:32:07AM IF YOU ARE COMING BACK IN FRONT OF US IN MARCH, WHEN CAN
11:32:11AM PEOPLE EXPECT TO SEE THE PLAN AND BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU
11:32:14AM ABOUT IT?
11:32:15AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: I BELIEVE IN THE NEXT -- THE END OF
11:32:17AM FEBRUARY, BEGINNING OF MARCH IS WHEN THEY WILL HAVE THE
11:32:20AM OUTREACH.
11:32:21AM I WILL NEED TO SEE IF IT IS IN PERSON.
11:32:22AM A LOT OF THIS WAS DELAYED BECAUSE OF COVID AND WE DID A LOT
11:32:26AM OF VIRTUAL AND I WILL GET INFORMATION ON THE EXACT DATES AND
11:32:30AM OUTREACH VERY SOON IN THE NEXT MONTH, MONTH AND A HALF.
11:32:33AM THEY WILL SEE THE INFORMATION, THE POWERPOINT SLIDES.
11:32:36AM THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT ITSELF WAS OVER 300 PAGES.
11:32:40AM THAT IS WORTH THE TIME A LOT OF DETAIL OF VISITING EVERY
11:32:46AM SINGLE PARK, WALKING THAT PARK, TO MAKE ACCURATE ANALYSIS
11:32:50AM FOR FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
11:32:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
11:32:53AM I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND TO HAVE THEM IN PERSON.
11:32:56AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: ME TOO, I AM NOT A VIRTUAL PERSON, BUT I
11:33:01AM GOT YOU.
11:33:02AM THANKS.
11:33:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:33:06AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: GOOD ON EAST TAMPA?
11:33:09AM NEXT ONE UP VILA BROTHERS.
11:33:14AM WE COME BEFORE TALKING OF VILA BROTHERS.
11:33:17AM UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW.
11:33:18AM THE BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT MADE TO TAMPA PARKS AND THE QUALITY
11:33:23AM OF LEAVE OF OUR CITIZENS AND SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY
11:33:26AM OF THE COMMUNITY AND ADDING THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
11:33:31AM ADDING RECREATIONAL TO MINIMIZING IMPROVEMENT PARK SITE.
11:33:35AM IMPROVEMENTS ARE BASED ON THE SURROUNDING OF COMMUNITY AND
11:33:38AM THE VILA FAMILY.
11:33:40AM SO FAR WE -- I WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE.
11:33:42AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN BY THERE, BASKETBALL
11:33:46AM COURT, PICKLEBALL COURT.
11:33:47AM WHEN I SAY HEAVILY USED.
11:33:49AM THAT PICKLEBALL COURT IS USED ALL THE TIME.
11:33:53AM OUR FITNESS EQUIPMENT THAT IS IN THERE RIGHT NOW.
11:33:56AM SOME OF THE OTHER AMENITIES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:34:00AM I KNOW HE MENTIONED MANY THAT ARE THERE.
11:34:02AM FOUR SHELTERS, TWO DOG PARKS, A WALKING TRAIL WITH LIGHTS, A
11:34:06AM NEW PLAYGROUND, OPEN GREEN SPACE AREA AND THE PICKLEBALL,
11:34:10AM BASKETBALL COURTS.
11:34:11AM A.D.A. ACCESSIBLE WHAT WE HEARD A LOT FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
11:34:17AM WE HAVE SURROUNDING PARKING THAT WILL BE THERE.
11:34:19AM AND SO THOSE ARE A FEW OF ATE MEN TEASE THAT ARE THERE.
11:34:23AM AND THE BENEFITS -- REALLY TALKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AND
11:34:25AM GETTING FEEDBACK AND HAVING ONE ON ONE WITH MISS VILA,
11:34:30AM MARTHA VILA TO HAVE LUNCH AND OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT TO GET
11:34:35AM WHY $AND HONORING THE FAMILY AND THE SEVEN BROTHERS AT THIS
11:34:39AM PARTICULAR PARK.
11:34:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:34:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE UPDATE.
11:34:47AM I WAS AT MRS. VILA'S HOUSE EARLIER THIS WEEK.
11:34:51AM I DON'T WANT TO DISAPPOINT HER.
11:34:53AM I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETING THIS.
11:34:55AM AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME, BUT I AM GLAD THAT, YOU
11:34:59AM KNOW -- I DRIVE BY EVERY DAY.
11:35:01AM AND I SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU,
11:35:05AM BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND WE APPRECIATE IT
11:35:08AM AND I KNOW YOU ARE ON TOP OF IT.
11:35:10AM AND WE HAVE COMMUNICATED WITH YOU MANY, MANY TIMES.
11:35:13AM SO THANK YOU.
11:35:16AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: NO PROBLEM.
11:35:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:35:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO ABOUT -- THE YEARS GO BY SO FAST.
11:35:22AM SEVEN YEARS AGO, EIGHT YEARS AGO, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORKED
11:35:25AM WITH THE CITY ON A BIG MASTER PLAN AND IT WAS -- IT IS
11:35:28AM BEFORE YOU -- BEFORE YOU WERE THE DIRECTOR, I KNOW, BUT THE
11:35:33AM CITY WORKED ON A MASTER PLAN WITH THIS PARK IN THE
11:35:37AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY $2.5 MILLION.
11:35:40AM THE CITY TURNED TO THEM AND SAID WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO GET
11:35:43AM THE MONEY AND THEY SAID WE THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO PAY FOR
11:35:47AM IT AND THE BEGINNING OF THIS PATH 37 DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE
11:35:50AM THAT ORIGINAL PLAN?
11:35:52AM MY QUESTION IS HOW MUCH OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN HAVE WE
11:35:54AM IMPLEMENTED.
11:35:55AM OBVIOUSLY PICKLEBALL WASN'T ON THERE BECAUSE BECOME
11:35:58AM SOMETHING POPULAR NOW.
11:35:59AM DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF THEIR ORIGINAL VISION HOW MUCH WE
11:36:03AM WILL BE IMPLEMENTING?
11:36:04AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: I WOULD NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT.
11:36:06AM I BELIEVE A LOT OF IT IN R IS IN THERE, AS THE TIMES CHA
11:36:12AM CHANGED WITH PICKLEBALL.
11:36:13AM I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER BECAUSE BEFORE ME AND BEFORE I WAS
11:36:17AM WITH THE CITY.
11:36:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM SURE SANDY WILL BE CALLING US.
11:36:21AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: I THINK IT IS ON A HAND-DRAWN SOMEWHERE.
11:36:25AM BUT I WILL HAVE TO FIND OUT.
11:36:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:36:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MET WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AND THEY
11:36:34AM ARE JOYFUL THAT IT IS COMING TO AN END.
11:36:36AM POSTPONED AND POSTPONED AND SOME OF THIS -- IF I REMEMBER,
11:36:40AM YOU HAD TROUBLES IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE REST ROOMS OR
11:36:43AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT COMING IN TIME.
11:36:44AM BUT I AM NOT FORMULATING EXCUSES BUT TRY TO ANSWER SOME
11:36:48AM QUESTIONS IN THE ADVANTAGES OF COST.
11:36:50AM THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF THINGS ADDED FROM THE ORIGINAL
11:36:54AM PLAN.
11:36:54AM THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS VERY NARROW AND MUCH GREATER AND
11:37:01AM AMENITIES AND THE NEIGHBORS WILL GET WHAT THEY DESERVE, A
11:37:05AM GOOD PARK, A BEAUTIFUL PARK.
11:37:07AM IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DOES A LOT OF WALKING AND UNION TEASE.
11:37:11AM LITTLE GATHERINGS AND LIKE HAVING ONE BIG HOUSE AND ONE BIG
11:37:16AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT COME BACK TO TAMPA.
11:37:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:37:21AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: YOU ARE WELCOME.
11:37:22AM NEXT ONE UP.
11:37:24AM FOREST HILLS.
11:37:25AM FOREST HILLS ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
11:37:31AM A JOINT PROJECT WITH STORMWATER.
11:37:33AM SO THE IMPROVEMENTS THERE.
11:37:37AM EXISTING STORMWATER RECREATIONAL FACILITIES REQUIRE SAFETY
11:37:41AM AND OPERATIONAL IMPROVEMENT.
11:37:42AM THE NEED PRESENTED OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY
11:37:46AM TO MAKE DESIRED COMPREHENSIVE IMPROVEMENT TO THE PARK AND
11:37:50AM EXPAND ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE PARK.
11:37:52AM I WILL GO OVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ACTUAL LAYOUT OF IT.
11:37:55AM STORMWATER IS DOING THEIR PORTION FOLLOWED BY THE
11:37:58AM IMPROVEMENTS WHICH WILL HAVE BASKETBALL COURTS, TENNIS
11:38:02AM COURTS, PICKLE BALL COURTS AND A MULTIPURPOSE FIELD, A
11:38:06AM WALKING TRAIL WITH FITNESS EQUIPMENT AROUND THE WALKING
11:38:12AM TRAIL.
11:38:12AM THIS PROJECT AS I SAID IS UNDER WAY AND ANTICIPATED
11:38:15AM COMPLETION IS AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.
11:38:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MERIDIAN.
11:38:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN GO BACK IN HISTORY AND REMEMBER THE
11:38:27AM LAST TIME THIS HAD ANY AMOUNT OF MONEY PUT INTO IT UNDER THE
11:38:32AM ADMINISTRATION WHERE THE FLOODING WAS HORRIFIC.
11:38:34AM WE DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
11:38:36AM AND THE -- DID THE -- DID THE CENTER THERE AND THINGS
11:38:40AM HAPPEN.
11:38:41AM IN FACT, A PLAQUE ON THE WALL NAMING ALL SIX COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:38:44AM NOTICE I SAY SIX.
11:38:45AM THEY FORGOT THE CHAIRMAN BECAUSE THE CHAIRMAN DIDN'T WANT
11:38:50AM HAD IS NAME PUT ON IT AND CALLED THE UNKNOWN SOLDIER.
11:38:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAS THAT YOU?
11:38:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS THE CHAIRMAN.
11:38:57AM I AM HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
11:38:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:39:02AM THANK YOU.
11:39:06AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: NEXT ONE UP, GANDY PARK SOUTH AND
11:39:10AM IMPROVEMENTS.
11:39:10AM THESE ARE THE PARKS THAT ACTUALLY WERE CLOSED WHEN THE
11:39:15AM SELMON EXPRESSWAY USED IT AS A STAGING AREA TO COMPLETE THE
11:39:20AM TOP LEVEL.
11:39:21AM WE ARE NOW READY TO PROCEED WITH THE PROJECT HERE.
11:39:24AM SO WE HAVE TWO PARCELS THAT ARE HERE.
11:39:26AM ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF GANDY AND ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF
11:39:31AM GANDY.
11:39:32AM MAKE A CONNECTION BOTH OF THEM.
11:39:34AM SAFE CONNECTION WITH BOTH PARKS CONNECTING THE TWO OF THEM
11:39:38AM THAT ARE THERE.
11:39:39AM SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR -- ON YOUR MAP
11:39:44AM INCLUDE KAYAK AND CANOE LAUNCH, MULTIPLE SHELTERS FOR
11:39:48AM PICNICS, OPEN GREEN SPACE AREA, FISHING PIER, AND A WALKING
11:39:54AM AREA AMONGST OTHER AMENITIES.
11:39:56AM BUT OUR GOAL IS TO -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS NOT HERE, BUT
11:40:01AM TOUCHING DOWN THERE, LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY EN COMMUNITY
11:40:05AM ENGAGEMENT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
11:40:07AM PETITION A CONTRACTOR THAT HAS BEEN SELECTED.
11:40:10AM AND THEN YOU WILL NOW SEE DISCUSSIONS START TO COME BACK AND
11:40:14AM FORTH.
11:40:14AM AND PARK IMPROVEMENT START TO GO.
11:40:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:40:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU ADVANCE THE SKY SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE
11:40:25AM THE MAP OF --
11:40:26AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: OH, I AM SORRY, YES, MA'AM, HERE YOU GO.
11:40:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANKS.
11:40:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:40:54AM I AM HOPING THERE IS A FISHING PIER THERE.
11:40:57AM THAT IS PRIME FISHING.
11:40:58AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: IT IS.
11:40:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAUGHT PLENTY OF SNOOK AND RED TROUT IN
11:41:04AM THERE.
11:41:04AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:41:05AM IF YOU WANT SHALL DON'T WANT TO ASK A QUESTION, I WILL.
11:41:14AM ARE THE TOP AND BOTTOM PART OF ON THE SLIDE, ARE THEY
11:41:18AM CONNECTING?
11:41:19AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: THE TWO PARKS?
11:41:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES IF JIMENEZ HILLARY CLINTON THAT IS OUR
11:41:25AM GOAL.
11:41:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:41:27AM COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:41:28AM SHALL WE GO TO VETERANS.
11:41:30AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: BRING IT ON HOME.
11:41:31AM HERE WE GO.
11:41:33AM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
11:41:40AM COUNCIL, YOUR REQUEST, YOU ASKED US TO CONSIDER PUTTING A
11:41:43AM VETERANS MEMORIAL IN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT.
11:41:46AM THIS IS THE FIRST OF THOSE MEMORIALS AT JIM WALTER PARK.
11:41:50AM WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE DESIGN AND PERMITTING OF THE
11:41:55AM MEMORIAL.
11:41:57AM WE HAVE ALLOCATED FOR $300,000 FOR -- FOR THIS MEMORIAL WITH
11:42:04AM THIS PARK AND -- IN THE FOLLOWING YEARS, WE WILL HAVE
11:42:09AM ALLOCATED $600,000 TO ADDRESS THE MEMORIALS IN THE OTHER
11:42:15AM PARKS.
11:42:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:42:18AM I BELIEVE THAT YOU WERE ACTUALLY --
11:42:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
11:42:24AM BECAUSE I WILL BE HONEST, I FORGOT I MADE THAT MOTION.
11:42:27AM I CHECKED IT, AND I DON'T MEAN THIS IN TERMS OH, MY GOSH, IT
11:42:33AM IS TAKE TOO LONG THINGS TAKE TIME IN DECEMBER OF 2020.
11:42:39AM THIS IS GREAT, ESPECIALLY TO SEE A MEMORIAL FOR
11:42:42AM AFRICAN-AMERICAN VETERANS, MANY OF WHOM SERVED AS JIM CROW.
11:42:45AM A LOT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ROBERT SAUNDERS THAT TOOK OVER
11:42:50AM THE NAACP WAS AS WORLD WAR II VETERAN.
11:42:55AM AND DELANO STEWART SERVED IN THE AIR FORCE AFTER THE KOREAN
11:43:02AM WAR ERA, IF I RECALL.
11:43:04AM THIS IS WONDERFUL.
11:43:05AM MAKE A MOTION -- I AM THRILLED TO SEE THIS AT JIM WALTERS.
11:43:12AM THAT IS GREAT.
11:43:12AM IS THIS YOUR DISTRICT?
11:43:14AM GREAT, THAT IS WONDERFUL.
11:43:15AM I AM THRILLED TO SEE THAT.
11:43:16AM I WILL MAYBE HAVE THIS DONE LIKE ON A YEARLY BASIS SO WE CAN
11:43:21AM SEE WHEN THE NEXT ONE IS GOING TO GO.
11:43:23AM THAT IS GREAT.
11:43:23AM THANK YOU, GUYS.
11:43:24AM WELL-DONE.
11:43:25AM THANK YOU.
11:43:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:43:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO
11:43:31AM REGGIE BOLTON, WHO WE MET FOR A LONG TIME FOR SOMETHING LIKE
11:43:36AM THIS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HE IS IN THE CARVER CITY, LINCOLN
11:43:42AM GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:43:43AM WE SAT DOWN TOGETHER WITH PARKS AND REC AND FIRST SAW THE
11:43:47AM INITIAL DESIGN.
11:43:48AM WE WERE BLOWN AWAY.
11:43:50AM HE WAS VERY, VERY HAPPY AND THIS WILL BE WONDERFUL IN THIS
11:43:53AM HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD IN TAMPA TO HONOR ALL THE VETERANS
11:43:57AM GOING BACK TO WORLD WAR II AND MOVING FORWARD.
11:44:00AM THIS IS -- THIS IS GREAT.
11:44:01AM SO I AM GLAD TO SEE THIS.
11:44:04AM THANK YOU.
11:44:05AM >>OCEA WYNN: THANK YOU.
11:44:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:44:10AM THANK YOU, BOTH.
11:44:11AM >>OCEA WYNN: THAT ENDS OUR PRESENTATION, WE ARE GOOD.
11:44:17AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS FOR YOUR TIME THIS
11:44:23AM MORNING.
11:44:23AM OUR ATTENTION UNLESS WE HEAR OTHERWISE IS TO -- STARTING IN
11:44:30AM MAY, HAVE A BIANNUAL REPORT FOR YOU.
11:44:34AM WE CAN CRAFT THAT CERTAINLY WITH THE FORMAT THAT WE TALKED
11:44:37AM ABOUT TODAY.
11:44:39AM WE CAN CRAFT THAT WITHIN THE TIME FRAME THAT YOU WOULD LIKE
11:44:42AM THIS TO OCCUR GOING FORWARD.
11:44:45AM WE ARE REAL EXCITED ABOUT STARTING TO BRING THIS TO YOU IF
11:44:49AM NOT THROUGH PRESENTATIONS BUT THROUGH A WRITTEN REPORT SO
11:44:51AM YOU CAN HAVE A HANDY REFERENCE.
11:44:53AM I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THIS
11:44:57AM BIANNUAL REPORT A CHANCE TO SEE IF IT SATISFIES WHAT YOU
11:45:01AM BELIEVE IS THE NEED FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY, ENGAGEMENT,
11:45:05AM INFORMATION, AND SO FORTH.
11:45:07AM AND IF WE CAN GIVE THAT A CHANCE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT A --
11:45:11AM A ASK FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT WILL
11:45:15AM STILL BE SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED OR IF THIS PROCESS COULD
11:45:19AM BE A GOOD SUBSTITUTE FOR THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU ARE
11:45:23AM INTERESTED IN DOING.
11:45:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:45:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:45:29AM THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF DETAIL AND TRANSPARENCY.
11:45:32AM I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY TAKING THE TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL
11:45:35AM THIS.
11:45:35AM YOU KNOW, FOR US, BUT ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC.
11:45:39AM SO THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING WE SHOULD BE DOING.
11:45:42AM CAN I ASK MR. ROGERO A QUESTION REAL FAST?
11:45:47AM FOLKS WILL ALWAYS ASK US, WELL, WHY CAN'T WE DO MY PARK OR
11:45:52AM MY ROAD.
11:45:52AM AND WHEREVER YOU LIVE AND WHEREVER YOU GO, THAT AREA IS THE
11:45:56AM MOST IMPORTANT IN THE CITY.
11:45:57AM SO I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU, HOW DO YOU FIGURE OUT THE BUDGET
11:46:01AM FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS EACH YEAR?
11:46:03AM IS IT PACED ON REVENUE OR RETIRING DEBT OR JUST REFINANCING?
11:46:08AM HOW DO YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT NUMBER IS AND DO YOU KNOW
11:46:13AM THE INCREMENTAL NUMBER FOR NEXT YEAR.
11:46:16AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WILL ASK THE LAST QUESTION FIRST.
11:46:18AM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT THE INCREMENTAL NUMBER IS YET, WE
11:46:23AM ARE WORK ON IT AND WILL BRING COUNCIL WITH THAT.
11:46:25AM TO ANSWER TO YOUR FIRST QUESTION, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
11:46:28AM WE TAKE COMMUNITY INPUT WHETHER FROM THE MAYOR, THE TEAM OR
11:46:32AM CITY COUNCIL, WE LOOK FORWARD FOR THAT FIVE YEARS, WHAT DO
11:46:35AM YOU THINK THE VARIOUS REVENUE SOURCES ARE GOING TO BE.
11:46:38AM OF COURSE WE THINK WE DO A VERY GOOD JOB, BUT THE FURTHER
11:46:42AM YOU GO OUT, THE LESS ACCURATE IT IS GOING TO BE WHICH IS
11:46:45AM ANOTHER REASON THAT CITY COUNCIL REVIEW IT IS EVERY SINGLE
11:46:48AM YEAR.
11:46:48AM HAVE PRIORITIES CHANGE, FOR INSTANCE, OVER THE YEAR BECAUSE
11:46:51AM ANOTHER FIVE YEARS COMING UP.
11:46:53AM HAVE THE REVENUE ISSUES CHANGED FOR GOOD FOR OR WORSE OVER
11:46:59AM THE PAST YEAR.
11:47:00AM AGAIN, WHEN WE ADOPTED THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM,
11:47:03AM ALREADY A HALF YEAR.
11:47:04AM AND IN ANOTHER HALF YEAR, WE WILL BE DOING IT AGAIN.
11:47:07AM SO REALLY IS A PROCESS.
11:47:08AM WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE THINGS.
11:47:10AM REALLY IS DYNAMIC.
11:47:11AM YOU GOT -- YOU GOT TO PLANT THE DART SOME PLACE, BUT DYNAMIC
11:47:17AM JUST LIKE THE OPERATING BUDGET.
11:47:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:47:20AM ONE LAST COMMENT FOR MISS DUNCAN.
11:47:22AM BESIDES THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON EACH PROJECT, I HOPE THAT
11:47:28AM THE PRIORITIZATION OF THESE IS A DISCUSSION BETWEEN CITY
11:47:32AM COUNCIL AND MAYOR'S OFFICE AND YOUR DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO WE
11:47:35AM NEED -- I THINK WE NEED TO GO TO THE PUBLIC, SPECIFICALLY
11:47:38AM FOR -- FOR PRIORITIZATION OF THE OVERALL IDEAS AND BUDGET.
11:47:42AM WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A MOBILITY PLAN UNDER WAY.
11:47:46AM THERE IS A PARKS PLAN UNDER WAY THAT WILL -- IT IS SUPPOSED
11:47:51AM -- THEY ARE BOTH SUPPOSED TO HAVE OBJECTIVE PRIORITIZATION.
11:47:55AM IF WE HAVE OBJECTIVE PRIORITIZATION, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE
11:47:59AM PUBLIC AND SAY YOUR ROAD NEEDS TO BE DONE BUT THE OTHER ROAD
11:48:03AM IS 720 YEARS OLD AND YOURS IS 40 YEARS OLD AND WE NEED TO DO
11:48:07AM THE 70-YEAR-OLD ONE FIRST.
11:48:09AM AND WILL HELP TO GET THE BUCKETS OF PRIORITY FOR THE PUBLIC
11:48:14AM NOT JUST FROM A POLL BUT ACTUALLY HAVING CONVERSATIONS.
11:48:17AM AND THEN -- AND THEN ALSO, HELP THEM LOOK AT THINGS.
11:48:22AM I THINK PART OF THAT IS, TABLE-TOP DISCUSSIONS TO DO WITH
11:48:27AM PEOPLE.
11:48:27AM IF YOU HAVE $100, HOW WOULD YOU SPEND IT LIKE THE DISCUSSION
11:48:30AM ON THE STREET STREETCAR VERSUS REPAIRING ROADS A LITTLE
11:48:35AM WHILE AGO.
11:48:35AM THE SAME THING WITH PARKS AND THE OTHER PRIORITIES.
11:48:39AM TO GIVE CONTEXT TO IT.
11:48:40AM NOT ONLY WHAT BUCKETS ARE PRIORITY.
11:48:42AM WHAT PROJECTS ARE PRIORITY UNDER THOSE BUCKETS AND KIND OF
11:48:47AM RELATIVELY HOW MUCH PEOPLE WILL WANT TO SPEND ON THEM.
11:48:50AM A GOOD PARALLEL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
11:48:54AM THANK YOU.
11:48:54AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
11:48:57AM LITTLE BIT OF AUTO ART AND SCIENCE.
11:48:59AM MOST OF OUR PRIORITIZATION IS BASED ON DATA AND NEED.
11:49:02AM MOBILITY, WE HAVE OUR HIGH-INJURY NETWORK THAT IDENTIFIED
11:49:06AM THE HIGH INJURY LOCATIONS.
11:49:08AM SO WE BLEND THAT DATA WITH THE EQUITY OF DISTRIBUTING THE
11:49:11AM LOVE EVERYWHERE AS WE SAY, GIVING PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE
11:49:14AM WHOLE CITY AS WELL AS WHAT THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST OF DEMANDS
11:49:19AM ARE.
11:49:19AM A LITTLE BIT SCIENCE AND ART IN TERMS OF MAKING IT
11:49:24AM APPROPRIATE WITH W WITH WHAT THE REQUESTS ARE, WHAT THE
11:49:27AM NEEDS ARE, AND WHAT THE DATA SHOWS AND THEN THE MONEY ON TOP
11:49:31AM OF THAT TO -- TO FURTHER CHALLENGE US ON HOW WE COME UP WITH
11:49:36AM OUR PLANS.
11:49:37AM WE HAVE DONE THIS FOR MANY YEARS.
11:49:40AM WE WANT TO KEEP GETTING BETTER AND ALL THE INPUT WE ARE
11:49:43AM GETTING TODAY IS VERY VALUABLE AND KEEP EBBING AND FLOWING
11:49:48AM AND ADJUSTING AND DOING BETTER AT THIS TIME.
11:49:52AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN AMEND MY COMMENTS TO COUNCILMAN
11:49:57AM CARLSON.
11:49:58AM THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
11:50:01AM THEY ARE CONTINUING TO MEET FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
11:50:03AM AND WE WILL TAKE INPUT ABOUT NOT ONLY PRIORITIZATIONS BUT
11:50:07AM COMMUNITY PREFERENCES FROM THEM ALSO.
11:50:10AM THANK YOU.
11:50:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
11:50:14AM TO AGENDA NUMBER 8?
11:50:21AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:50:23AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:50:25AM WELL, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S GO BACK TO NUMBER 2 AND TALK OF
11:50:28AM IMPULSE BUYING.
11:50:29AM I DON'T IMPULSE BUY.
11:50:31AM DO Y'ALL IMPULSE BUY?
11:50:33AM I DON'T BUY HOUSES OR CARS WITH NO THOUGHT PROCESS BEFORE
11:50:36AM IT.
11:50:37AM NO PLANNING BEFORE IT.
11:50:38AM AND WHEN STUFF COMES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, ONLY ONE TIME TO
11:50:42AM SPEND $20-PLUS MILLION THAT I DIDN'T HEAR A WHOLE LOT OF
11:50:47AM CONVERSATION ABOUT WITH THE LAST HOUR'S WORTH OF TESTIMONY.
11:50:50AM I THINK CITY COUNCIL SHOULD THINK ABOUT IT IN BETWEEN THE
11:50:54AM FIRST AND SECOND HEARING.
11:50:55AM I THINK THAT TOTALLY MAKES SENSE.
11:50:57AM I DON'T -- LIKE I SAID.
11:50:59AM AND WHEN YOU DO MAKE IMPULSE SUCH AS HANNA STREET, YOU END
11:51:05AM UP WITH LESS THAN A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD WE HAVE A 13%
11:51:08AM INCREASE ON THAT PROJECT.
11:51:09AM AFTER WE MADE AN IMPULSE PURCHASE.
11:51:12AM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THIS POWERPOINT THAT WAS
11:51:16AM PRESENTED TODAY IS NOT IN SIRE.
11:51:19AM OTHERWISE YOU KNOW YOU WILL SEE SANDY SANCHEZ HERE.
11:51:22AM BUT THE -- THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA COMES OUT ON THE FRIDAY
11:51:26AM BEFORE.
11:51:26AM WE HAVE SIX DAYS TO PREPARE FOR WHATEVER IS GOING TO BE ON
11:51:30AM THE AGENDA.
11:51:30AM DURING THAT SIX DAYS, IF THE DOCUMENTS ARE NOT IN SIRE, THE
11:51:35AM CITY, THE PUBLIC, THE PEOPLE WHO PAY THE TAXES THAT THEY ARE
11:51:38AM SPENDING THEIR MONEY, DO NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW
11:51:41AM THIS AND THINK ABOUT IT AND TALK ABOUT THIS.
11:51:44AM AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THEIR CITY COUNCIL.
11:51:47AM I HAVE NO IDEA THIS PRESENTATION IS COMING TODAY.
11:51:50AM HAD I, I WOULD HAVE REVIEWED IT AND DONE A BETTER JOB.
11:51:55AM IMPULSE BUYS ALWAYS COST YOU IN THE LONG RUN.
11:51:59AM VIA INTEREST.
11:52:00AM VIA WHATEVER SOURCE.
11:52:01AM WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT TALKED. PALOMA PARK, GUESS
11:52:08AM WHAT, THE CITY ISN'T WAITING FOR THAT.
11:52:10AM THEA PAID FOR IT.
11:52:13AM A GIFT FROM THEA FOR THE INCONVENIENCE OF THE GANDY FLYOVER.
11:52:19AM LET'S NOT ACT THAT THAT CAME OUT OF SOMEWHERE AND SOMEBODY
11:52:23AM WAS AGAIN A GIFT TO S.O.G.
11:52:27AM I WILL POINT OUT THAT MISS DUNCAN SAYS THEY ARE IN
11:52:31AM NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.
11:52:33AM I REALLY, REALLY STRUGGLE TO AGREE WITH THAT.
11:52:36AM I REALLY STRUGGLE TO SEE WHERE WE HAVE CITY STAFF SITTING IN
11:52:42AM A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
11:52:43AM AND I THINK ALL OF YOU UP THERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE THAT ARE
11:52:47AM GOING TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS CAN SEE THAT YOURSELVES.
11:52:50AM SO IF -- IF YOU ARE GOING TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS BEFORE
11:52:54AM THESE THINGS HAPPEN -- AND I JUST -- I CONTACTED TIM
11:52:58AM KEYSPORT AND CARROLL ANN BENNETT AT THE HANNA STREET MEETING
11:53:02AM TO SEE IF IT HAPPENED BEFORE OR AFTER.
11:53:05AM AND NEITHER ONE OF THEM COULD REMEMBER, BUT THEY WILL LOOK.
11:53:11AM THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WE GOT TO DO WHAT WE SAY WE ARE GOING TO
11:53:14AM DO AND SHOULDN'T BE JUST PUSHING IT OUT.
11:53:16AM IT NEEDS TO BE TAKING IT BACK IN FROM THE CITIZENS AS WELL.
11:53:19AM WE CAN'T PLAY THIS GAME ANYMORE.
11:53:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:53:23AM NEXT, PLEASE.
11:53:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, KEELA McCASKILL.
11:53:29AM THIS -- THIS REPORT, THIS POWERPOINT COULDN'T BE THE
11:53:33AM REPLACEMENT OF IT COMING BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
11:53:36AM ONE, WHAT HAPPENED TO HANNA STREET WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY
11:53:41AM EMBARRASSMENT.
11:53:42AM PURE INSULT -- SHOULD BE TO YOU ALL AND CITIZENS WHICH IS
11:53:46AM WHY I AM ASKING THAT YOU SUPPORT IT.
11:53:48AM I FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO COME TO BEFORE YOU TWICE AND
11:53:51AM DEFINITELY NEED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY HAVE PUBLIC INPUT.
11:53:54AM AS A CITIZEN -- AND SAT THROUGH AT LEAST THE PROCESS WHEREBY
11:53:58AM -- NOT FOR HANNA STREET, BUT FOR FAIR OAKS OR THAT PROJECT.
11:54:02AM I SAW ONE OF THE -- THE AWARDED VENDOR SKANSKA.
11:54:10AM THEIR PIECE OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BRING CANNING BEFORE
11:54:14AM THAT.
11:54:14AM THEIR IDEA WITH AS TO GO TO ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF JAZZY
11:54:17AM SENIORS AND ASK THREE QUESTIONS.
11:54:19AM NOT REALIZING THAT THE JAZZY SENIOR IS IN THE ROOM.
11:54:22AM AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHO SHE WAS.
11:54:26AM YOU KNOW WHY, THEY DIDN'T CONTACT JAZZY SENIORS.
11:54:29AM THEY WENT TO A MEMBER OF.
11:54:31AM THEIR IDEA OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THE ACTUAL COMMUNITY
11:54:34AM ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
11:54:35AM ACTUALLY ADVERTISING THE INFORMATION AHEAD OF TIME GIVES THE
11:54:40AM PUBLIC TO COME HERE IN BETWEEN THE TWO AND THEIR PROCESS OF
11:54:44AM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
11:54:47AM I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ONE OF THEM SAID THE NEXT PUBLIC
11:54:51AM ENGAGEMENT FEBRUARY 15, FEBRUARY 18 AND A FEW MINUTES AGO
11:54:55AM END OF THE MONTH.
11:54:56AM I AM POINTING OUT, NOT ONE FLIER OR PIECE OF LITERATURE TO
11:55:01AM PREPARE THE PEOPLE THAT THERE WILL BE A MEETING ABOUT THIS
11:55:05AM PROJECT IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:55:06AM ONE MEETING AND ONE OPPORTUNITY IN A OOPS, $100 MILLION
11:55:10AM BUDGET OR OOPS $100 MILLION RUBBER STAMP IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
11:55:17AM WE NEED TWO AND I WILL ASK YOU TO SIGN OFF ON THAT TODAY.
11:55:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
11:55:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:55:24AM JUST A REMINDER.
11:55:25AM I HEAR SPEAKERS TALK OF OFFICIALS AND SECOND READING AND
11:55:29AM REMINDED PUBLIC AND CERTAINLY COUNCIL KNOWS THIS, WHAT YOU
11:55:33AM HAVE WITH REGARD TO CONTRACTS COME IN THE FORM OF A
11:55:36AM RESOLUTION.
11:55:36AM AND THEY NORMALLY APPEAR ON THE CONSENT DOCKET.
11:55:40AM AND THERE IS A POLICY OF CITY COUNCIL THAT THE
11:55:42AM ADMINISTRATION ABIDES BY THAT ITEMS OVER $3 APPROXIMATELY
11:55:48AM COME TO YOU FOR A STAFF REPORT AND SOME KIND OF PRESENTATION
11:55:51AM ATTACHED TO IT.
11:55:52AM BUT SOMETHING THAT TAKES NO READING FRANKLY, MOVING THE
11:55:57AM RESOLUTION ONE TIME BEFORE IT TAKES EFFECT AND ONCE -- LET'S
11:56:00AM SAY AT CONTRACT AND COUNCIL APPROVES IT AND THE RECIPIENT IS
11:56:05AM NOTIFIED OF COUNCIL'S DECISION, REALLY OUT OF COUNCIL'S
11:56:08AM HANDS AT THAT POINT.
11:56:09AM NO MOTION TO RECONSIDER A CONTRACT ONCE YOU PASSED IT BY
11:56:12AM RESOLUTION BECAUSE NO OPPORTUNITY.
11:56:15AM I WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR FOR COUNCIL CERTAINLY AND PUBLIC
11:56:19AM SHOULD BE AWARE WHEN YOU TALK OF TWO OR MORE DISCUSSIONS.
11:56:24AM NOT AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS UNDER
11:56:27AM FLORIDA LAW.
11:56:28AM EXCUSE KNEE, TWO READINGS AND ONE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:56:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:56:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PURPOSE OF NUMBER 8 IS TO ASK FOR A
11:56:38AM PROCESS WHICH WE WILL HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON CONTRACTS
11:56:42AM OVER $20 MILLION.
11:56:43AM SO THE -- AND -- ONE EXAMPLE WAS HANNA AVENUE.
11:56:47AM WE PASSED IT.
11:56:48AM WE WERE ALL TRYING TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH THE MAYOR AND
11:56:52AM THIS IS ONE OF HER LEGACY PROJECTS.
11:56:53AM SO WE APPROVED IT A WEEK OR TWO LATER SAID SOMEONE CAME UP
11:56:59AM TO PUBLIC COMMENT THAT IT WAS NOT OUT FOR BID.
11:57:02AM WE TRIED TO PUT IT ON PAUSE AND CANCEL IT AND TOLD BY LEGAL
11:57:06AM WE COULDN'T AND AS YOU SAID TOO LATE BY THEN.
11:57:09AM THAT IS ONE EXAMPLE.
11:57:10AM THE IDEA IS GIVE TWO CHANCES FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THINGS.
11:57:15AM PUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS IN BETWEEN THEM AND GIVE US MORE TIME
11:57:18AM TO LOOK AT IT AND HEAR PUBLIC INPUT AND THEN APPROVE IT.
11:57:22AM IT IS REAL A SAFEGUARD.
11:57:26AM ON LAND USE ISSUES.
11:57:30AM NOT REQUIRED BY ANY LAW TO DO IT.
11:57:32AM I SAY WE DO IT FOR TRANSPARENCY AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A
11:57:35AM SECOND CHANCE.
11:57:36AM COULD BE THE SECOND TIME NOBODY WILL DISCUSS IT AND NOBODY
11:57:39AM WILL DISCUSS AND IT WILL BE A QUICK VOTE, BUT AT LEAST WE
11:57:42AM WILL GIVE IT TWO DIFFERENT CHANCES.
11:57:44AM MY PROPOSAL IS ONLY ABOVE $20 MILLION WHICH IS NOT THAT MANY
11:57:48AM CONTRACTS.
11:57:48AM THANK YOU.
11:57:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:57:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SECOND THAT MOTION.
11:57:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE HOLD THAT AND MAKE IT AT THE END OF
11:58:00AM THE MEETING.
11:58:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: IS STAFF REPORTING ON THAT.
11:58:03AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING.
11:58:06AM THE LAND USE HEARINGS YOU HAVE ARE REZONINGS AND DONE BY
11:58:09AM ORDINANCE AND GOVERNED BY FLORIDA LAW AND YOU HAVE YOU HAVE
11:58:13AM TO HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON THOSE ITEMS MANDATED BY
11:58:18AM FLORIDA LAW.
11:58:19AM I WANTED TO CLARIFY.
11:58:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID UNLIKE LAND USE ISSUES, WE ARE NOT
11:58:24AM MANDATED BY LAW TO REVIEW -- TO HEAR CONTRACT REVIEWS TWICE.
11:58:29AM AND THAT IS WHY -- EVEN THOUGH FLORIDA LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE
11:58:33AM IT, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT IN AN ORDINANCE THAT -- THAT SAYS
11:58:37AM THAT WE WILL HEAR THEM TWICE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HEAR
11:58:41AM FROM THE PUBLIC FULLY.
11:58:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMEMBERS, IT IS 12:00 NOW.
11:58:52AM DO WE WANT TO GO TO LUNCH NOW OR HAVE A HARD STOP AT 12:30?
11:58:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD SAY GO TO LUNCH NOW AND COME
11:59:00AM BACK AT AN EARLIER HOUR AND GO -- NO?
11:59:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LUNCH UNTIL 1:30?
11:59:08AM WE ARE RECESSED UNTIL 1:30.
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1:34:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
1:34:13PM >> VIERA?
1:34:14PM MANISCALCO?
1:34:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
1:34:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
1:34:17PM >> GUDES?
1:34:18PM MIRANDA?
1:34:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
1:34:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
1:34:20PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:34:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:34:23PM WE ARE NOW GOING TO GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2.
1:34:38PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: PARDON ME, COUNCIL.
1:34:40PM WE WERE OF THE IMPRESSION WE WEREN'T QUITE DONE WITH ITEM
1:34:43PM NUMBER 8, WHICH GOT BUNDLED WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
1:34:46PM I APOLOGIZE IF THAT'S A MISUNDERSTANDING.
1:34:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE THEN PROCEED AT YOUR LEISURE.
1:34:53PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: JEAN DUNCAN, ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE
1:34:55PM AND MOBILITY.
1:34:57PM WHEN WE STARTED OUT, I WAS OFFERING TO CIRCLE BACK ON THE
1:35:01PM PART OF THE TWO MOTIONS TO SEE WHAT YOUR PLEASURE WAS AFTER
1:35:05PM YOU HEARD ABOUT THE PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO INTRODUCE WITH
1:35:08PM THE BIANNUAL REPORT.
1:35:09PM SO NOW YOU'VE HEARD THAT, AND YOU'VE HEARD OUR COMMENTS AND
1:35:13PM OTHERS' COMMENTS.
1:35:15PM SO WE JUST WANTED TO SEE WHAT YOUR PLEASURE WAS IN TERMS OF
1:35:19PM THESE ADDITIONAL HEARINGS OR APPROVALS IN TERMS OF PROJECTS
1:35:22PM OF A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT.
1:35:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS ABOUT TO MAKE A
1:35:27PM MOTION AND I ASKED HIM TO HOLD IT TO THE END OF THE
1:35:30PM PRESENTATION.
1:35:30PM HOWEVER, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE YOUR MOTIONS NOW.
1:35:32PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:35:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY ANSWER TO THAT IS I THINK IT'S BETTER TO
1:35:36PM DO BOTH, BECAUSE THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY.
1:35:38PM I THOUGHT THE PRESENTATION WAS FANTASTIC.
1:35:40PM AND IT'S NOTHING AGAINST ANYBODY.
1:35:41PM IT JUST ALLOWS MORE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC, PROBABLY 99% OF
1:35:45PM THEM IT WOULD JUST GO THROUGH.
1:35:47PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE LEGAL STAFF RETURN TO
1:35:56PM COUNCIL WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE CONTRACTS
1:36:03PM OVER $20 MILLION TO BE DISCUSSED ON THE AGENDA TWO WEEKS
1:36:14PM BEFORE THE VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT.
1:36:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
1:36:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO PICK A DATE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT
1:36:22PM DATE.
1:36:22PM MORRIS, I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL GET THE VOTES, BUT IS A MONTH
1:36:30PM ENOUGH ON THAT?
1:36:31PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: AT LEAST 30 DAYS WOULD BE HELPFUL.
1:36:34PM MAYBE IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND 60, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY PREPARE
1:36:37PM SOMETHING, KIND OF WHAT WE WERE THINKING, AND WE'LL COME
1:36:40PM BACK AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT WHEN WE HAVE THE DRAFT.
1:36:43PM BUT THE THOUGHT MAY BE THAT THERE WOULD BE UNDER STAFF
1:36:45PM REPORTS A NOTICE THAT WE ARE COMING FORWARD WITH A PROPOSED
1:36:49PM CONTRACT AT THE FOLLOWING HEARING WITH ATTACHED TO IT THE
1:36:53PM PROPOSED CONTRACT.
1:36:54PM SO IT WAS ON YOUR AGENDA, YOU COULD DISCUSS IT UNDER STAFF
1:36:57PM REPORTS AND THEN HAVE THE NEXT TWO WEEKS THE ACTUAL VOTE
1:37:00PM WOULD OCCUR.
1:37:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, JUST SO IT'S LISTED AND WE WOULD OPEN
1:37:04PM IT.
1:37:05PM WE DON'T HAVE TO OPEN IT, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION.
1:37:08PM IT'S THERE, THE PUBLIC WOULD SEE IT AND WE COME BACK.
1:37:11PM MARCH 2nd, IS THAT OKAY?
1:37:12PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, THAT'S FINE.
1:37:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: ON MARCH 2.
1:37:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:37:19PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:37:21PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
1:37:22PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
1:37:23PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
1:37:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
1:37:26PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
1:37:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2.
1:37:35PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
1:37:36PM ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
1:37:39PM MANAGEMENT.
1:37:39PM I HAVE WITH ME THIS AFTERNOON JC HUDGISON, OUR BUILDING
1:37:43PM OFFICIAL.
1:37:43PM WE DID FILE A MEMORANDUM CONCERNING ITEM NUMBER 2.
1:37:46PM WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS
1:37:49PM THAT FURTHER.
1:37:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:37:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I THINK I MADE THIS MOTION.
1:37:55PM I READ THE MEMO, BUT COULD YOU JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE,
1:37:59PM 30 SECONDS, A MINUTE, KIND OF SUMMARIZE WHAT YOU SAID.
1:38:01PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SURE.
1:38:03PM SO THE MOTION HAD ASKED ON WHAT TO DO ABOUT UNPERMITTED
1:38:06PM STRUCTURES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND WE DID GIVE A MEMO.
1:38:11PM BASICALLY IT TALKS ABOUT THE BACKGROUND OF HOW UNPERMITTED
1:38:14PM STRUCTURES WERE ORIGINALLY HANDLED.
1:38:20PM PRIOR TO 2021, IT WAS A COORDINATED EFFORT BETWEEN A LITTLE
1:38:23PM BIT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT AND A LITTLE BIT OF CONSTRUCTION
1:38:26PM SERVICES.
1:38:27PM AND THEN YOU MAY RECALL WE CAME AS PART OF THE BUDGET TO
1:38:32PM START WHAT WE REFER TO AS THE CONSTRUCTION AND ACTIVITY
1:38:35PM COMPLIANCE TEAM.
1:38:36PM AND JC BROUGHT SOME CHANGES RELATED TO CHAPTER 5, AND WE
1:38:40PM BROUGHT THAT ENFORCEMENT OF ILLEGAL CONSTRUCTION BACK TO THE
1:38:44PM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES CENTER.
1:38:46PM THE CACT THROUGH A HOTLINE HEARS COMPLAINTS RELATED TO
1:38:53PM UNPERMITTED WORK, AND THEY INVESTIGATE THOSE.
1:38:57PM IN THE MEMO, I TALKED ABOUT THAT.
1:39:00PM SINCE WE LAUNCHED IN 2022, THEY HAVE PERFORMED CLOSE TO
1:39:04PM 2,000 COMPLAINT INSPECTIONS AND 73% OF THESE INSPECTIONS
1:39:09PM BECAME FORMAL VIOLATIONS.
1:39:12PM SO WE START WITH THAT INVESTIGATION AND THEN IF IT IS
1:39:16PM DETERMINED THAT IT IS WORK WITHOUT PERMITS, THEY WILL ISSUE
1:39:19PM A STOP WORK ORDER.
1:39:20PM IF WORK THEN CONTINUES, JC AS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL HAS THE
1:39:25PM RIGHT TO CUT THE UTILITIES TO THAT BUILDING IN ORDER TO NO
1:39:30PM ELECTRIC OR WATER.
1:39:31PM WE PULL BOTH OF THOSE DISCONTINUANCE OF UTILITIES.
1:39:36PM AND THEN WE ALSO WORK ON THE ENFORCEMENT OF ABANDONED
1:39:38PM STRUCTURES WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT,
1:39:42PM AND THEN ALSO THOSE GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC, IF THEY ARE A
1:39:48PM NUISANCE, THEN WE WORK ON NUISANCE ABATEMENT TO GET RID OF
1:39:51PM THOSE AS WELL.
1:39:52PM A COUPLE OF NUMBERS I DIDN'T INCLUDE IN THE MEMO IS THAT
1:39:57PM CURRENTLY IN THE FIRST YEAR, THAT JANUARY 2022 TO '23, WE
1:40:03PM COLLECTED CLOSE TO $188,000 IN STOP WORK ORDER FEES AND
1:40:10PM FINES.
1:40:10PM AND WE COLLECTED 195,000 IN WORK WITHOUT PERMITS FEES AND
1:40:16PM FINES.
1:40:17PM SO THIS TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY TO BRING THAT
1:40:21PM INTO THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
1:40:23PM IDEALLY, OUR GOAL IS TO GET THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT THERE
1:40:26PM PERFORMING WORK WITHOUT PERMIT TO GET A PERMIT SO THAT WE
1:40:29PM CAN THEN KNOW THAT WHAT THEY ARE CONSTRUCTING IS SAFE AND
1:40:33PM HABITABLE IF THEY ARE LIVING IN IT OR THEY ARE OPERATING
1:40:36PM THEIR BUSINESS THERE.
1:40:38PM THAT IS WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE.
1:40:40PM I KNOW THROUGH MY ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS WITH JC WE CONTINUE TO
1:40:44PM LOOK AT HOW WE CAN NOW, NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT TEAM, IT'S
1:40:48PM WORKING HARD, HOW DO WE TAKE THAT TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND
1:40:51PM CONTINUE THE ENFORCEMENT AND REALLY PUBLIC EDUCATION AND
1:40:55PM GETTING OUT OTHER INFORMATION THAT CAN EVEN TAKE US FURTHER
1:40:59PM IN THIS REGARD.
1:41:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: A FOLLOW-UP REAL FAST, I THINK THE GENESIS
1:41:06PM OF THIS WAS THAT WE HAVE SO MANY CASES, ESPECIALLY IN WEST
1:41:08PM TAMPA, WHERE SOMEBODY HAS BUILT ILLEGAL STRUCTURE AND THEN
1:41:11PM THEY ARE COMING AFTER THE FACT TO GET IT APPROVED.
1:41:14PM KIND OF PART OF QUESTION IS HOW DO WE ADDRESS THOSE BEFORE
1:41:18PM THEY COME?
1:41:19PM BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT WHEN WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION,
1:41:23PM ESPECIALLY IF WHOEVER BUILT IT SOLD IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE, THE
1:41:27PM NEW OWNERS BOUGHT IT THINKING ALL THAT WAS LEGAL, FOUND OUT
1:41:30PM IT'S NOT.
1:41:31PM WE HAVE TO TELL THEM THEY HAVE TO KICK PART OF THEIR FAMILY
1:41:33PM OUT AND TEAR DOWN THE BUILDING OR ALLOW SOMEBODY TO GET AWAY
1:41:36PM WITH BUILDING AN ILLEGAL STRUCTURE.
1:41:39PM DO YOU THINK WHAT YOU SAID YOU'RE DOING SOUNDS TERRIFIC, BUT
1:41:42PM IS IT -- IS THAT GOING TO HELP SOLVE THAT PROBLEM?
1:41:46PM AND DO YOU RECOMMEND ANY OTHER ORDINANCES OR IS IT JUST
1:41:49PM SUPPORTING YOUR TEAM AND THE BUDGET FOR YOUR TEAM TO ENFORCE
1:41:52PM IT?
1:41:53PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WELL, I'LL ANSWER FIRST AND THEN I'LL TURN
1:41:56PM IT OVER TO JC.
1:41:57PM I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY AN ILLEGAL STRUCTURE
1:42:02PM BECOMES LEGAL IF WE GET THAT AFTER-THE-FACT PERMIT.
1:42:06PM BUT AS PART OF THAT AFTER-THE-FACT PERMIT PROCESS, IF IT IS
1:42:11PM NOT MEETING CERTAIN ZONING REGULATIONS OR OTHER REGULATIONS,
1:42:14PM THEN THEY DO HAVE TO COME IN FOR A PD OR A VARIANCE TO GET
1:42:17PM THE SETBACK ADJUSTED.
1:42:19PM ULTIMATELY, THEY'D HAVE TO TAKE THAT FIRST STEP AND THAT
1:42:22PM DECISION DOES COME TO YOU AND THEN IT'S UP TO YOU WHETHER OR
1:42:25PM NOT -- I MEAN, OUR GOAL IS A LOT OF TIMES NOT TO HAVE THEM
1:42:28PM TEAR DOWN THE STRUCTURE AND I THINK VERY FEW OF OURS RESULT
1:42:31PM IN THAT, BUT IT IS TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE AND MAKE IT
1:42:36PM LEGAL.
1:42:37PM I DON'T KNOW NECESSARILY AT THIS TIME IF WE WOULD RECOMMEND
1:42:40PM ANY OTHER ORDINANCES IN RELATION TO ENFORCEMENT.
1:42:43PM I THINK IT'S GOING TREMENDOUSLY WELL.
1:42:46PM AND WE'VE DONE EVEN A SERIES OF PUBLIC SERVICE
1:42:49PM ANNOUNCEMENTS, ANNOUNCING THE TEAM, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THEY
1:42:52PM ARE OUT THERE.
1:42:54PM SO THAT'S MY RESPONSE, BUT I'LL ASK JC IF HE HAS ANYTHING HE
1:42:58PM WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THAT.
1:43:00PM >>JC HUDGISON: GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:43:01PM JC HUDGISON, CONSTRUCTION SERVICES CENTER MANAGER.
1:43:04PM WE WOULD SAY PROBABLY SOME OF THAT IS THAT EDUCATION PIECE,
1:43:07PM TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH, WITH SOME OF THE
1:43:10PM CRAs AS WELL IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SOME SIMPLE QUESTIONS
1:43:13PM TO ASK.
1:43:14PM MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT.
1:43:17PM MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A BLD.
1:43:19PM ASK THE QUESTIONS UP FRONT BECAUSE, YES, WE DO DEAL WITH A
1:43:22PM LOT OF THOSE SOLD THREE TIMES AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW IT DIDN'T
1:43:25PM HAVE A PERMIT.
1:43:25PM THEN WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITHIN THE SYSTEM TO KEEP THEM
1:43:28PM COMPLIANT.
1:43:28PM AS ABBYE MENTIONED, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS KIND OF OVERLAP.
1:43:31PM WE TRY TO WORK WITH THEM BECAUSE WE'RE NOT HERE TO FINE
1:43:35PM THEM, IT'S TO FIND THE COMPLIANCE.
1:43:36PM IF WE CAN FIND IT WHETHER IT IS THROUGH A VARIANCE OR
1:43:38PM SOMETHING ELSE.
1:43:39PM BUT WITH HOMEOWNERS, A LOT OF THEM JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT
1:43:43PM NEEDS A PERMIT.
1:43:43PM A LOT IS THE EDUCATIONAL PIECE, HEY, IF YOU WANT TO CLOSE IN
1:43:46PM YOUR CARPORT OR ADD TO THE HOUSE, YOU NEED A PERMIT.
1:43:50PM IT'S TRYING TO WORK WITH A LOT OF THE GROUPS AND
1:43:52PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT THERE
1:43:54PM BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF INFLUX USUALLY AFTER STORMS.
1:43:58PM STORM SEASON COMES THROUGH AND EVERYBODY COMES IN TO SAY,
1:44:01PM HEY, I CAN FIX YOUR ROOF OR THIS, OR I COULD FIX, AND WE'RE
1:44:04PM LIKE, NO, ASK SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS UP FRONT TO MAKE SURE
1:44:09PM YOU HAVE A LEGIT PERSON OUT THERE DOING WORK ON YOUR
1:44:12PM PROPERTY.
1:44:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE FINAL COMMENT, IT SEEMS LIKE -- I DON'T
1:44:17PM KNOW HOW MANY OF THESE ARE IN WHAT PART OF THE CITY, IT
1:44:20PM SEEMS A LOT OF THE CASES WE GET ARE IN WEST TAMPA.
1:44:22PM MANY OF THEM NEED INTERPRETERS AND MANY OF THEM ARE KIND OF
1:44:26PM NEW IMMIGRANTS.
1:44:27PM TO MY COLLEAGUES WHO ARE EXPERTS ON WEST TAMPA, YOU MIGHT
1:44:33PM GET THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT, WHATEVER, TO TALK TO THEM
1:44:36PM ABOUT THE SPECIAL WAYS TO GET THE WORD OUT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
1:44:39PM NEW TO THE AREA OR NEW TO THE COUNTRY SO THAT WE CAN -- LIKE
1:44:46PM IN SOUTH TAMPA, YOU MIGHT GO TO HOME DEPOT, WHATEVER THE
1:44:49PM EQUIVALENT IS THERE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO, TO TRY TO MAKE
1:44:51PM SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE EDUCATED ALONG THE WAY.
1:44:53PM BECAUSE THE WORST THING IS TO HAVE TO FORCE SOMETHING TO BE
1:44:57PM TORN DOWN AFTER THE FACT.
1:44:58PM THANK YOU.
1:44:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:45:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE QUESTION JUST OVERALL, LIKE A BALLPARK,
1:45:04PM HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO TURN THE ELECTRIC OR
1:45:07PM UTILITIES OFF FOR?
1:45:09PM I'M JUST WILDLY CURIOUS.
1:45:10PM >>JC HUDGISON: WE ONLY DID IT WITH FOUR SO FAR IN THE LAST
1:45:15PM YEAR.
1:45:15PM WE COORDINATE WITH TECO AND WE COORDINATE WITH THE WATER
1:45:17PM DEPARTMENT.
1:45:18PM LIKE I SAY, USUALLY THOSE ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS.
1:45:21PM GIVEN A STOP WORK ORDER.
1:45:22PM THEY KEEP WORKING ON THE PROPERTY.
1:45:24PM STAFF COMES OUT THERE, WE SAY, PLEASE STOP WORKING ON THE
1:45:27PM PERMIT.
1:45:27PM COME GET A PERMIT.
1:45:28PM THEY ARE STILL WORKING ON THE PROPERTY.
1:45:29PM IN THE CODE I HAVE TO GIVE THEM 30 DAYS.
1:45:31PM I HAVE TO GIVE THEM AN ANNOUNCEMENT AFTER THAT TIME THAT WE
1:45:34PM WILL THEN DISCONNECT UTILITIES.
1:45:36PM FORTUNATELY, WE'VE ONLY HAD TO USE THAT OVER THE LAST YEAR
1:45:40PM FOUR TIMES.
1:45:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S EXCELLENT.
1:45:42PM I HAVE HEARD YOU TALK ABOUT THE EDUCATING THE HOMEOWNERS.
1:45:45PM WHAT ARE WE DOING TO EDUCATE THOSE WHO WORK ON PROPERTIES?
1:45:49PM I KNOW THAT CAN BE HARD TO FIND BECAUSE NOT ALL OF THOSE
1:45:53PM FOLKS ARE LICENSED, BUT HOW ARE WE GETTING THE WORD OUT TO
1:45:57PM CONTRACTORS AND THOSE TYPES TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, COME HERE
1:46:01PM FIRST, WE'LL SAVE YOU A LOT OF HEADACHE.
1:46:04PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: RIGHT NOW, WE JUST HAVE THAT INITIAL PSA.
1:46:10PM WE'VE BEEN GETTING THE WORK OF THE TEAM REALLY UNDERWAY.
1:46:13PM BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING I THINK WE COULD UNDERTAKE
1:46:16PM HERE IN THE FUTURE VERY QUICKLY.
1:46:18PM WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND GET SOME OTHER INFORMATION
1:46:24PM OUT BOTH ON OUR WEBSITE AND ON CTTV AND OTHER OUTLETS TO
1:46:29PM SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
1:46:31PM IF YOU HAVE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS, JC DOES HOLD.
1:46:35PM WE HOLD ADVISORY GROUP MEETINGS EVERY QUARTER.
1:46:39PM WE HAVE ONE FOR CONTRACTORS.
1:46:40PM WE HAVE ONE FOR ARCHITECTS AND DESIGNERS.
1:46:43PM WE HAVE ONE FOR LAND USE ATTORNEYS AND CONSULTANTS, AND WE
1:46:47PM SHARE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION AND OUR OPERATIONS ON AN
1:46:51PM ONGOING BASIS WITH THOSE GROUPS QUARTERLY.
1:46:53PM SO I THINK THAT ALSO IS AN OUTLET FOR HOW WE'RE CURRENTLY
1:46:57PM COMMUNICATING WHAT IS GOING ON AND THE SERVICES AND WHEN WE
1:47:00PM LAUNCH THE CACT I KNOW THAT WE DID SHARE THAT WITH THOSE
1:47:04PM GROUPS WHICH ARE THE GCs AND THE OTHERS.
1:47:08PM I KNOW YOU'RE POINTING OUT A GAP, THOSE WHO ARE NOT LICENSED
1:47:12PM AND MAY BE PERFORMING THE WORK.
1:47:14PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE FRAUD HOT LINE, WHICH IS PART OF
1:47:19PM THIS TEAM, THEY DID HAVE CASES THAT THEY TOOK TO COURT FOR
1:47:26PM PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT LICENSED AND WERE PERFORMING WORK.
1:47:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT, GREAT.
1:47:32PM THANK YOU.
1:47:33PM THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
1:47:35PM YES, I THINK WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER WITH THAT.
1:47:37PM I KNOW WE WARN OUR HOMEOWNERS THAT THEY NEED TO GET
1:47:40PM PERMITTED WORK, BUT ALSO THE REPERCUSSIONS IS KIND OF A BIG
1:47:46PM DEAL IF YOU DON'T GET THE WORK PERMITTED YOU'RE GOING TO END
1:47:49PM UP SPENDING A LOT MORE MONEY.
1:47:50PM BUT, NO, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT PART.
1:47:53PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:47:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:47:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
1:47:59PM THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND THE INTENSE EFFORT TO
1:48:05PM DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
1:48:08PM THE QUESTION ABOUT WATER AND ELECTRICITY HITS ME IN THE
1:48:11PM HEART ABOUT NOT THE PEOPLE, BUT DO WE KNOW IF THERE ARE KIDS
1:48:15PM LIVING IN THE HOUSE?
1:48:16PM DO WE KNOW WHAT THE NEED IS OR IS THE HOUSE VACANT?
1:48:20PM THAT'S ONE THING.
1:48:21PM BUT IF THE HOUSE TWO OR THREE KIDS AND WE'RE GOING TO TURN
1:48:23PM OFF THE WATER AND ELECTRIC.
1:48:24PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE'VE ONLY DONE THAT ON COMMERCIAL.
1:48:29PM >>JC HUDGISON: ONLY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
1:48:30PM HOMES, WE WORK WITH THEM.
1:48:32PM WE UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE.
1:48:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T WANT TO PUNISH EVERYONE FOR ONE
1:48:37PM MISDOING.
1:48:38PM >>JC HUDGISON: CORRECT.
1:48:40PM IT'S MAINLY COMMERCIAL USE ONLY.
1:48:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DO YOU HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE FOR CODE
1:48:44PM ENFORCEMENT?
1:48:44PM AND I HAVE NO BEEF WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.
1:48:46PM I THINK THEY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB, BUT MOST OF THESE THINGS
1:48:49PM ARE DONE FRIDAY AFTERNOON, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
1:48:52PM HOW MANY CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE ON THE STREET ON
1:48:55PM THOSE DAYS?
1:48:56PM THANK YOU FOR THE ANSWER.
1:48:58PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO, THEY ARE NOT THERE ON SATURDAY AND
1:49:01PM SUNDAY, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT --
1:49:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT I WANT TO DO IS
1:49:07PM PREVENT THE ULTIMATE FROM GETTING WORSE.
1:49:09PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: RIGHT.
1:49:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND IF WE DON'T CHANGE THE SYSTEM, IT'S
1:49:12PM GOING TO GET WORSE.
1:49:14PM SO THE SYSTEM, IN MY MIND, HAS GOT TO BE TWEAKED AND
1:49:17PM CHANGED.
1:49:19PM IN FACT, I REMEMBER WAY BACK WHEN SOME OTHER ADMINISTRATION
1:49:22PM WANTED ANYBODY THAT DROVE A CITY CAR THAT THEY SAW
1:49:25PM SOMETHING, SAW SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.
1:49:28PM NO ONE HAS EVER DONE IT THAT I KNOW OF.
1:49:33PM THAT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM WE HAVE.
1:49:34PM WE'RE FIGHTING AN UPSTREAM BATTLE TO CATCH FISH, AND IT'S
1:49:39PM JUST -- IT'S AMAZING THAT WE'RE NOT WORKING WITHIN OUR OWN
1:49:43PM SYSTEM TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
1:49:45PM THIS PROBLEM IS MORE THAN LIKELY HALF AND HALF, THE THINKING
1:49:50PM THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD A PERMIT, I DON'T KNOW.
1:49:53PM THE THINKING THAT SOME FRIEND IS GOING TO HELP THEM OUT, I
1:49:57PM DON'T KNOW.
1:49:58PM THE THINKING THAT THE SYSTEM THAT COME FROM ANOTHER CITY,
1:50:03PM WHO KNOWS WHERE THEY COME FROM.
1:50:05PM MAYBE THEY COME FROM A COUNTRY WHERE THEY DON'T NEED A
1:50:07PM PERMIT AND THEY DO THAT.
1:50:08PM THE LANGUAGE BARRIER IS ANOTHER ONE.
1:50:10PM I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S RELATIVE IN ALL CASES; IT MAY NOT BE.
1:50:14PM SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS I THINK WE HAVE TO CLEAN OURSELVES UP
1:50:17PM TO UNDERSTAND THE SYSTEM BETTER TO WORK TO STOP IT BEFORE IT
1:50:21PM STARTS.
1:50:21PM AND WE SOLVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS BY DOING THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT
1:50:25PM DOING THAT.
1:50:26PM IT'S LIKE SAYING, WELL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS ONLY GOING
1:50:29PM OUT WHEN IT'S A FIVE-STORY BUILDING BURNING.
1:50:33PM THEY DON'T DO THAT.
1:50:35PM THEY GO OUT AND CHECK EVERYTHING.
1:50:37PM I DON'T CARE, YOU CALL THEM, THEY SHOW UP, WHETHER A FIRE OR
1:50:41PM NOT, THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT BUILDING IS NOT GOING
1:50:43PM TO BURN.
1:50:43PM WE'RE NOT DOING THAT HERE.
1:50:45PM WE'RE NOT PATROLLING THE STREETS.
1:50:49PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IF I CAN JUST REPLY TO
1:50:52PM THAT, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT PRIOR TO US CONSOLIDATING AND
1:50:55PM HAVING THIS TEAM, WHEN CODE ENFORCEMENT WOULD SITE SOMEONE
1:50:58PM FOR THE WORK, IT WOULD TAKE 21 DAYS FROM THE TIME THE
1:51:02PM COMPLAINT WAS FILED TILL THE TIME THE STOP-WORK ORDER WAS
1:51:05PM BEING ISSUED.
1:51:06PM AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE LOOKED AT THIS AND
1:51:08PM BROUGHT IT BACK INTO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES BECAUSE WE NOW CAN
1:51:13PM DO IT IN A MATTER OF DAYS.
1:51:14PM WE HAVE MADE THAT IMPROVEMENT.
1:51:16PM JC AND I ARE ALSO TALKING, GEARING UP FOR THE BUDGET FOR
1:51:20PM NEXT YEAR AND LOOKING AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES ABOUT LOOKING AT
1:51:23PM STAGGERED WORK SCHEDULES, HAVING SOME OF OUR INSPECTIONS AND
1:51:26PM OTHER PEOPLE LOOK AT A TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY AND HOW
1:51:32PM WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE THOSE SERVICES.
1:51:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.
1:51:36PM THE ONLY THING I SEE HERE, WE'RE NOT PROACTIVE, WE'RE
1:51:39PM REACTIVE.
1:51:41PM AND UNLESS YOU CHANGE THE SYSTEM, WHEN SOMEBODY MOVES IN AND
1:51:44PM YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY MOVE IN OR NOT, CHANGE THE WATER,
1:51:48PM CHANGE THE WATER BILLING, THAT MEANS SOMEBODY ELSE WITH THE
1:51:51PM ELECTRIC BILL.
1:51:52PM MAYBE WE SHOULD SEND THEM A LETTER ON THINGS THEY CAN AND
1:51:55PM CANNOT DO IN BOTH LANGUAGES.
1:51:56PM WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO PREVENT IT.
1:51:58PM WE'RE GOING AFTER -- AFTER THE WAR IS FINISHED WE SHOW UP
1:52:01PM AND SAY, HERE, WE'LL SAVE YOU GUYS.
1:52:03PM IT'S TOO LATE.
1:52:04PM MOST TIMES YOU TRY TO HELP THEM OUT, AT THAT POINT, THEY
1:52:07PM STARTED SOMETHING, THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO HIRE AN
1:52:10PM ENGINEER TO DO A DRAWING OF WHAT YOU WANT.
1:52:13PM THEY HAVE TO TEAR THE BUILDING DOWN.
1:52:14PM THE LOSSES TO A YOUNG FAMILY OR OLDER FAMILY OR WHATEVER
1:52:17PM FAMILY, AND IN TODAY'S SOCIETY, I WANT TO TRY TO STOP IT
1:52:21PM BEFORE IT STARTS.
1:52:21PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: UNDERSTOOD.
1:52:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE.
1:52:24PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR EFFORTS AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
1:52:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:52:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALONG THOSE LINES, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN
1:52:32PM MIRANDA, FOR BRINGING UP THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PART.
1:52:36PM I WAS JUST AT AN YBOR CITY PARKING MEETING WHERE THAT WAS
1:52:39PM ANOTHER THING DISCUSSED.
1:52:42PM I WOULD LOVE TO BRING THAT BACK TO TALK ABOUT CODE
1:52:44PM ENFORCEMENT BEING ABLE TO WORK 24/7 SOMEHOW BECAUSE AS WITH
1:52:50PM A CONSTRUCTION SERVICES, PEOPLE WILL DO THINGS AT ALL HOURS
1:52:54PM OF THE DAY.
1:52:55PM MAYBE IT WASN'T A HUGE PROBLEM BEFORE, BUT NOW WITH
1:52:58PM EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON IN OUR CITY HOW MUCH WE'VE GROWN,
1:53:01PM WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE SERVICES
1:53:06PM HAPPENING ALL DAY EVERY DAY.
1:53:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:53:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SAID THAT A LONG TIME AGO.
1:53:16PM YOU RECALL A COUPLE OF TIMES I WENT OUT ON A COUPLE OF
1:53:19PM WEEKENDS WHERE CONSTITUENTS CALLED AND IT WAS A HOLIDAY
1:53:23PM WEEKEND ONE WEEKEND THE GUYS WERE WORKING.
1:53:25PM YOU CAN'T HAVE THE SAME PLAYBOOK.
1:53:31PM THINGS CHANGE, DIFFERENT STRATEGY.
1:53:32PM I'M GLAD YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR BUDGET.
1:53:38PM MR. MIRANDA TOUCHED ON SOMETHING.
1:53:40PM EVERY EMPLOYEE IN THE CITY, YOUR FIRE, YOUR POLICE, THE ONES
1:53:45PM THAT ARE DRIVING THOSE CARS, IF I CAN DRIVE IN MY DISTRICT
1:53:50PM AND I CAN GO DOWN 37th STREET AND I CAN SEE ALL THIS TRASH
1:53:54PM ON THE SIDE OF THE ROADWAY AND I CAN CALL IT IN OR I CAN
1:53:58PM TAKE A PHOTO AND SEND IT TO CT, HOW CAN OUR OTHER EMPLOYEES
1:54:04PM THAT ARE OUT THERE DRIVING CITY VEHICLES, OUR TRASH -- OUR
1:54:09PM SOLID WASTE GUYS, THEY SEE MORE THAN ANYTHING OR YOU DRIVE
1:54:13PM AND SEE HOUSES THAT ARE ABANDONED, WHY DON'T WE HAVE, AGAIN,
1:54:18PM SOME TYPE OF HANG TAG OR CALL THAT IN, HAVE A NUMBER OR
1:54:23PM SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO PUT IT ON THE SYSTEM, HEY THIS ROAD
1:54:26PM HAS THIS AND THIS AND THIS TRASH.
1:54:28PM OR YOU SEE A DILAPIDATED HOUSE THAT NEEDS ROOF REPAIR.
1:54:32PM A LADY SITTING ON THE PORCH AND THE HOUSE IS ABOUT TO FALL,
1:54:36PM WE DON'T CALL THAT IN YET SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHO TO CALL FOR
1:54:41PM HELP.
1:54:41PM THESE ARE THINGS AS A CITY THAT WE HAVE TO BE PROACTIVE TO
1:54:43PM DO, VERSUS REACTIVE.
1:54:46PM HOUSE IS FALLING DOWN AND NEIGHBOR DOWN THE STREET, WE HAVE
1:54:49PM MS. JONES, 90 YEARS OLD AND NOBODY IS HELPING HER.
1:54:54PM YET DRIVE DOWN THE STREET EVERY DAY AND HER HOUSE AND NOBODY
1:54:57PM SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MS. JONES.
1:55:00PM SAME THING ABOUT CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
1:55:02PM WE SEE STUFF.
1:55:07PM I REMEMBER ONE TIME, MR. MIRANDA, WHEN I WAS A POLICEMAN, I
1:55:11PM DIDN'T KNOW YOU HAD TO HAVE A PERMIT TO DO A ROOF.
1:55:15PM DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
1:55:16PM I HIRED A COMPANY TO DO THE ROOF.
1:55:19PM WHEN I HIRED, I HIRED TO PULL THE PERMIT, WHATEVER WAS
1:55:23PM NECESSARY.
1:55:23PM SO AT WORK, A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER, I GET A NOTICE ON MY
1:55:28PM DOOR.
1:55:32PM WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
1:55:34PM I DIDN'T KNOW.
1:55:34PM SO I THINK WHEN WE EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, A LOT OF TIMES THE
1:55:36PM PUBLIC DON'T KNOW THEMSELVES THE DOS AND THE DON'TS OF WHAT
1:55:41PM TO DO AND HOW TO DO IT.
1:55:43PM I ALWAYS SAY IF THEY HAVE SOME INFORMATION OR WE SEE
1:55:46PM SOMETHING, WE CAN GIVE PEOPLE INFORMATION TO CALL IN.
1:55:50PM I BELIEVE THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT HOURS SHOULD BE CHANGED A
1:55:53PM LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THINGS HAPPEN AT NIGHT.
1:55:55PM A LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING AND STUFF GOING ON.
1:55:58PM ONE ON ONE.
1:56:01PM COMMON SENSE TO ME.
1:56:02PM HOPEFULLY LOOK AT THOSE THINGS, REVAMP SOME THINGS WE'RE
1:56:07PM DOING TO MAKE A CLEANER, BETTER CITY.
1:56:10PM APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN US SO FAR.
1:56:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:56:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN FACT, THERE'S ANOTHER WAY WE CAN SEND
1:56:17PM A MESSAGE WITHOUT VERY LITTLE COST OR NO COST AT ALL.
1:56:22PM WHEN WE SEND OUT THE WATER BILLS, THERE'S AN INSERT IN
1:56:26PM THERE.
1:56:26PM 1974, THERE WAS ONLY A POSTCARD AND LITTLE STICKY.
1:56:30PM YOU TOOK IT OFF AND MAILED IT OUT.
1:56:33PM WE STARTED CHANGING AND PUTTING AT LEAST THE EMERGENCY
1:56:36PM NUMBERS BEHIND THAT.
1:56:37PM IT WORKED AND HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE.
1:56:38PM MAYBE WE CAN SUGGEST SOMETHING TO THE ADMINISTRATION, YOU
1:56:41PM GUYS DOING THIS, TO PUT IN BOTH LANGUAGES AGAIN JUST A FORM
1:56:46PM LETTER SAYING IF YOU GOT TO FIX YOUR HOUSE, HERE'S WHAT YOU
1:56:49PM NEED TO DO, BASIC THINGS, SO THEY AT LEAST HAVE A NUMBER TO
1:56:53PM CALL SO THEY CAN AT LEAST TALK TO SOMEONE.
1:56:55PM THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
1:56:56PM I'M NOT TAKING ON THEIR SIDE, BUT ON THE SIDE OF BEING AS
1:57:01PM CLOSE TO SAYING, YOU KNOW, FORGIVENESS IS AFTER THE THOUGHT,
1:57:05PM BUT LET'S GIVE THEM AN AVENUE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE
1:57:08PM FORGIVEN, THAT THEY REALIZE WHAT THEY HAVE AND THEY CAN FIX
1:57:11PM IT.
1:57:11PM IF WE CAN SEND SOMETHING OUT MAYBE IN TWO LANGUAGES, I'M NOT
1:57:14PM SAYING YOU GOT TO DO THAT THAT WAY, HOWEVER YOU ALL THINK
1:57:17PM YOU RUN THE DEPARTMENT, WE DON'T.
1:57:18PM BUT SEND IT IN WITH A WATER BILL.
1:57:21PM THE WATER BILL, I DON'T THINK THE COST IS GOING TO BE
1:57:24PM ANYTHING INCREASED.
1:57:25PM MAYBE A COUPLE OF CENTS, IF ANYTHING AT ALL, IS ALREADY HIGH
1:57:28PM ENOUGH.
1:57:28PM BUT WHEN YOU SEND THAT, YOU CAN SEND ANOTHER MESSAGE INSIDE
1:57:32PM THAT WATER BILL.
1:57:33PM AND THAT GOES TO A LOT OF PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE CITY.
1:57:37PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:57:37PM I APPRECIATE IT.
1:57:39PM TAKE THAT IN CONSIDERATION AND WORKING WITH THE WATER
1:57:41PM DEPARTMENT, SEE IF YOU CAN WORK TOGETHER AND GET IT DONE.
1:57:44PM THANK YOU.
1:57:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:57:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK, BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS
1:57:49PM ALREADY BEEN SAID.
1:57:50PM I'VE GOTTEN CALLS AT 9 A.M. ON A SUNDAY OF ILLEGAL SOMETHING
1:57:54PM IN A HOUSE, IN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
1:57:56PM AND, AGAIN, THEY DON'T KNOW WHO TO CALL.
1:57:58PM I TELL THEM, I ANSWER THE CALL AND I START SENDING THE
1:58:02PM E-MAILS.
1:58:02PM USUALLY I SEND IT OUT TO JOHN BENNETT AND I HATE TO BOTHER
1:58:06PM HIM ON A WEEKEND, BUT HE'S RESPONSIVE.
1:58:08PM THE OFFICERS AREN'T ON THE STREET WORKING AND THINGS GET
1:58:14PM REMEDY THE NEXT DAY, THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY.
1:58:16PM ANOTHER THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, SOMEBODY STOPPED ME THE
1:58:19PM OTHER DAY AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, I HAVE CITY VEHICLES
1:58:24PM COMING UP AND DOWN THE STREET.
1:58:27PM IT WAS LIKE FURNITURE DUMPED SOMEWHERE AND THEY DIDN'T DO
1:58:29PM ANYTHING.
1:58:29PM THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
1:58:31PM SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT A PROACTIVE APPROACH, I DON'T KNOW
1:58:33PM WHEN THE POLICY WAS INITIATED, THAT IF A CODE ENFORCEMENT
1:58:36PM OFFICER SEES SOMETHING, THAT THEY PUT IT IN THE SYSTEM AND
1:58:41PM WHATEVER I THINK THAT'S ALSO HELPFUL BECAUSE FOLKS ARE
1:58:45PM FRUSTRATED.
1:58:46PM AGAIN, EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN SAID.
1:58:48PM I APPRECIATE IT.
1:58:49PM THANK YOU.
1:58:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:58:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU TALK ABOUT THE DREADED WATER BILL.
1:58:56PM I MENTIONED THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT THE WATER BILL.
1:58:58PM WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE WATER BILL AND I TALKED TO CHUCK WITH
1:59:01PM IT BEFORE.
1:59:05PM THEY HAVE A PROCESS HOW THEY PROCESS THE WATER BILL.
1:59:08PM WHEN YOU GET THE WATER BILL, THE FIRST THING THE CUSTOMER
1:59:10PM LOOKS AT, THEY WANT TO SEE HOW MUCH MY BILL IS.
1:59:13PM THE FIRST THING YOU SEE, HOW MUCH THE BILL IS.
1:59:16PM AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS THROWN IN THE GARBAGE.
1:59:19PM SO I SAID, WHY CAN'T WE PUT THE AMOUNT OF THE BILL SOMEPLACE
1:59:24PM ELSE OTHER THAN THE FIRST THING YOU SEE AND THAT WAY PEOPLE
1:59:28PM BE ABLE TO READ THE INFORMATION THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO
1:59:30PM THE CITY BECAUSE THEY GOT TO GET TO IT.
1:59:33PM MOST PEOPLE WHEN THEY OPEN THE BILL UP, THEY AIN'T LOOK AT
1:59:36PM NOTHING BUT THE FIRST TOP LINE.
1:59:38PM THE REST OF IT GO IN THE GARBAGE.
1:59:40PM I'VE DONE IT SEVERAL TIMES.
1:59:42PM THINGS SUPPOSED TO BE INSERTED IN THERE, OKAY.
1:59:47PM YOU'RE RIGHT.
1:59:48PM BETTER WAY OF COMMUNICATING.
1:59:49PM THE WATER BILL COULD BE A WAY, BUT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT CAN'T
1:59:53PM BE ON THE FRONT PAGE.
1:59:54PM IT'S GOT TO BE SOMEPLACE ELSE.
1:59:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST ONE COMMENT.
1:59:58PM LET ME SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM.
1:59:59PM YOU CAN ASK THE WATER DEPARTMENT TO DO WHAT I DID AND TELL
2:00:02PM THEM TO TAKE IT OUT OF YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT OR WHATEVER IT
2:00:05PM IS EVERY MONTH AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.
2:00:07PM ONE DAY I DID THE SAME THING HE DID.
2:00:09PM THEN I GOT A BILL, I KNOW I PAID IT.
2:00:12PM I CHECKED, I HADN'T PAID IT.
2:00:15PM I HAD THROWN IT OUT.
2:00:16PM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
2:00:17PM FROM THEN ON I SAID JUST TAKE IT OUT.
2:00:21PM I GAVE PERMISSION AND WORKS PERFECT.
2:00:23PM THE WATER BILL ALSO CONTAINS A LOT MORE INFORMATION.
2:00:26PM ALSO YOUR GARBAGE PICKUP INVOLVED IN IT.
2:00:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
2:00:34PM THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT JUST DON'T KNOW.
2:00:39PM DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AND WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THAT.
2:00:42PM AND INFORMATION IS KEY.
2:00:43PM AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE GOOD PEOPLE
2:00:47PM THAT JUST DO BAD THINGS.
2:00:50PM TRY AND SKATE AROUND THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
2:00:56PM I SAID THIS AT THE LAST BUDGET HEARING, WE NEED MORE
2:01:00PM STAFFING.
2:01:01PM YOU GO ALL THE WAY FROM FIRE, POLICE, CODE ENFORCEMENT,
2:01:06PM INSPECTION, PERMITTING, THE CITY IS GROWING.
2:01:09PM WE NEED MORE STAFFING.
2:01:10PM BUT GETTING BACK TO THOSE GOOD PEOPLE THAT JUST TRY AND
2:01:15PM SKIRT THE ISSUE.
2:01:17PM CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS A PROBLEM.
2:01:19PM ACTUALLY HAS TWO BECAUSE NOW WE'RE PREEMPTED BY THE STATE.
2:01:24PM NO ONE CAN CALL IN ANONYMOUSLY, AND THAT SCARES PEOPLE
2:01:29PM BECAUSE THEIR NAME IS GOING TO BE ON THE RECORD, AND THEY
2:01:35PM DON'T, WHETHER THEIR NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR OR SOMEONE DOWN THE
2:01:38PM STREET COMING AND HARASSING THEM FOR THAT.
2:01:40PM CODE ENFORCEMENT CANNOT ENTER A PROPERTY THAT IS FENCED.
2:01:45PM CODE ENFORCEMENT CANNOT SEE SOMETHING THAT MAY BE HAPPENING
2:01:55PM BEHIND THAT FENCE.
2:01:56PM THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EVER ORGANIC THINGS THAT NEEDS TO BE
2:02:01PM TAKEN CARE OF.
2:02:02PM MS. FEELEY, THANK YOU BOTH FOR GIVING THE REPORT TODAY.
2:02:06PM ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM
2:02:09PM NUMBER 2?
2:02:11PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, KELLA McCASKILL.
2:02:13PM YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP AS A REAL ESTATE
2:02:16PM PROFESSIONAL, THAT'S WHAT I ACTUALLY DO.
2:02:18PM I'M VOLUNTEERING.
2:02:21PM BUT AS A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL, ONE OF THE THINGS I DO
2:02:23PM WHEN I'M LOOKING AT A HOME THAT HAS A LOT OF RECENT
2:02:27PM RENOVATIONS, AS A PROFESSIONAL, IT IS MY DUTY TO CHECK FOR A
2:02:30PM RECENT PERMIT.
2:02:32PM MAYBE A NUDGE TO REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS TO REMIND THEM.
2:02:35PM I KNOW WEST TAMPA, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, AND EVEN SOME CASES AND
2:02:40PM EVEN IN SOUTH TAMPA, I'VE SEEN AN INFLUX OF SITUATIONS WHERE
2:02:43PM THEY DID NOT NECESSARILY PULL A PERMIT AND SOMETIMES A HOUSE
2:02:47PM HAS BEEN SOLD TWO, THREE TIMES.
2:02:49PM AS A PROFESSIONAL WE SHOULD, AS REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS
2:02:51PM THAT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE FIRST THREE THINGS WE CHECK WHEN
2:02:55PM THEY ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN A PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
2:02:57PM MY CONCERN, THOUGH, IN ADDITION TO THAT IS WHERE THE PEOPLE
2:02:59PM DID GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
2:03:01PM SOME PEOPLE THEY HIRED A PROFESSIONAL.
2:03:03PM THEY PULLED AN ACTUAL PERMIT AND THEY RECEIVED A NEW ROOF,
2:03:07PM BUT THE INSPECTOR THAT CAME OUT NEVER GOT OUT OF THE CAR.
2:03:10PM THEY INSPECTED IT FROM THE CAR.
2:03:13PM AND SO DAYS LATER, I WOULD SAY NINE DAYS LATER, SEARS WAS
2:03:16PM HIRED TO PUT ON THE ROOF FOR THE SENIOR.
2:03:18PM THEY PUT THE ROOF ON.
2:03:20PM NINE DAYS LATER, THEY GOT A VIOLATION FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT.
2:03:23PM THE ROOFER NEVER DID THE BACK OF THE ROOF.
2:03:26PM THE ACTUAL ORDER SAID IT WOULD BE $5,000.
2:03:29PM THE ACTUAL BILL CAME BACK $25,000.
2:03:32PM THEY NEVER COVERED THE REAR.
2:03:34PM CODE ENFORCEMENT SAW THE REAR OF THE HOME.
2:03:36PM I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY KNEW FROM THE STREET WHAT WAS WRONG
2:03:38PM BUT THE INSPECTOR NEVER GOT OUT OF THE CAR.
2:03:40PM AND HOW WE FOUND OUT IT WAS A PROBLEM IS THEY COULDN'T GET
2:03:43PM HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE.
2:03:44PM THAT'S FROM TAMPA HEIGHTS TO EAST TAMPA.
2:03:47PM NOT THE SAME ROOFER BUT I'VE SEEN THE SAME SITUATION.
2:03:50PM I'M NOT SURE WITH INSPECTIONS IF THAT'S NEW.
2:03:52PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET OUT OF YOUR CAR TO INSPECT THE ROOF.
2:03:55PM THEY WON'T GET ON TOP OF THE ROOF AT ALL TO CHECK IT.
2:03:57PM THEY WALK AROUND THE HOUSE IF THEY DO GET OUT AND SOME OF
2:04:00PM THEM CHECK IT FROM IN THE CAR.
2:04:03PM THAT IS A CONCERN FROM ME AS A PROFESSIONAL, BUT SOME OF THE
2:04:05PM PEOPLE DID CALL A PROFESSIONAL, THEY DID GET A ROOF BUT THE
2:04:11PM INSPECTOR THAT WORKS UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THE CITY DOES NOT
2:04:13PM GET OUT OF THE CAR.
2:04:15PM IT MAY HAVE RECENTLY CHANGED BUT I HAVE AT LEAST TEN
2:04:17PM EXAMPLES OF WHERE THEY DID NOT GET OUT OF THE CAR OR GET ON
2:04:20PM THE ROOF.
2:04:21PM THEY DIDN'T EVEN WALK AROUND THE ENTIRE HOME TO CHECK THE
2:04:23PM ROOF.
2:04:24PM WE FOUND OUT IS ONE THEY COULDN'T GET INSURANCE OR TWO CODE
2:04:27PM ENFORCEMENT KNOCKED ON THEIR DOOR.
2:04:29PM THANK YOU.
2:04:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:04:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
2:04:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:04:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: JC, CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT?
2:04:39PM I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN, TOO.
2:04:42PM WHAT SHE'S SAYING I CAN VALIDATE.
2:04:43PM I'VE SEEN THAT HAPPEN.
2:04:44PM IS THERE A POLICY?
2:04:46PM WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE FOR THE INSPECTOR?
2:04:48PM I HEARD THIS MORE THAN ONCE?
2:04:50PM >> I'M NOT SPECIFICALLY FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE.
2:04:53PM WHAT WE STARTED TO INITIATE LATELY IS WHAT IS CALLED VIRTUAL
2:04:56PM INSPECTIONS BY AFFIDAVIT BECAUSE OF THE THREAT OF STAFF
2:04:59PM GETTING ON THE ROOF AND HURTING THEMSELVES.
2:05:01PM WE PROVIDE A CHECKLIST THAT WE GIVE TO THE ROOFER AND THEY
2:05:04PM HAVE TO GIVE US PICTURES OF ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
2:05:06PM IF WE NEED TO SEE WHERE THE SCUFFER IS, THE DRIP EDGE DONE
2:05:10PM CORRECTLY, THEY TAKE PICTURES AND REVIEW IT FROM THE CAR.
2:05:13PM IF WE NEED TO GET OUT, THEN WE GET OUT, BUT WE'LL HAVE THE
2:05:16PM PICTURES TO TELL US WHAT WE NEED SO STAFF DOESN'T HAVE TO
2:05:18PM GET ON THE ROOF.
2:05:20PM IDEALLY, I CAN GET THAT SPECIFIC ONE FROM HER AND FOLLOW UP
2:05:23PM ON THAT SPECIFICALLY.
2:05:24PM OVER THE LAST SIX MONTH WE'VE SPECIFICALLY DONE THAT TO
2:05:26PM REDUCE LIABILITY TO STAFF AND TO MAKE SURE WE ARE COVERING
2:05:30PM ALL OF THOSE.
2:05:30PM BECAUSE WHEN IT DOES GET TO AN ARGUMENT WITH INSURANCE OR
2:05:33PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE HAVE PHOTO DOCUMENTATION THAT THE
2:05:35PM ROOFER INSTALLER HIMSELF IS ON THE RECORD AND WE CAN REVIEW
2:05:38PM IT.
2:05:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
2:05:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:05:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS JUST THE FIRST THING THAT POPPED TO
2:05:45PM MY MIND.
2:05:46PM HOW DO WE KNOW IT WAS THE ROOF IN QUESTION?
2:05:48PM >>JC HUDGISON: SO WHEN WE DO IT, WE TELL THEM TO TAKE A
2:05:51PM PICTURE FROM THE STREET, SO THEY HAVE TO CONFIRM THAT IS THE
2:05:54PM HOUSE.
2:05:54PM THE ADDRESS IN THE PICTURE.
2:05:57PM SO WE ASK FOR A SERIES OF PHOTOS AND WE CONFIRM IT AND ALSO
2:06:01PM HAS TO BE DATE STAMPED.
2:06:02PM THEY CAN'T JUST TAKE A PICTURE AND SUBMIT THE SAME ONE UNDER
2:06:06PM EACH ROOF.
2:06:07PM WE CHECK FOR THAT.
2:06:08PM WE REVIEW THE PLANS.
2:06:09PM WE SEE THE ROOF PLAN AND THE LIMIT OF WHAT'S BEING DONE.
2:06:12PM THEREFORE THEN THE CHECKLIST -- AND I CAN PROVIDE TO YOU ALL
2:06:15PM WHAT THE CHECKLIST IS -- AND THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK FOR IN THE
2:06:18PM DOCUMENTATION.
2:06:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE UNDERSTAFFED AND WE
2:06:22PM NEED TO USE TECHNOLOGY.
2:06:25PM REALLY, THAT DOES MAKE ME UNCOMFORTABLE.
2:06:27PM BUT I WAS ASKING -- OR I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S POSSIBLY A WAY
2:06:30PM THAT IF EVERYBODY WHO GOES THROUGH THAT, DO YOU BY CHANCE
2:06:35PM RANDOMLY DECIDE TO, SAY, POP ONTO A ROOF RANDOMLY, THAT EVEN
2:06:41PM THOUGH THEY GET THE PHOTOS, WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO PULL
2:06:43PM THIS ONE OUT OF A HAT TODAY AND ACTUALLY GO INSPECT IT
2:06:47PM MYSELF?
2:06:47PM >>JC HUDGISON: STAFF STILL HAS TO PHYSICALLY GO TO THE SITE.
2:06:51PM EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE VIRTUAL WITH THE PICTURES, THAT'S
2:06:53PM PREVENTING THE STAFF FROM BEING ON THE ROOF.
2:06:55PM WE CHECK THEM ALL.
2:06:56PM WE HAVE TO.
2:06:57PM THEY CAN DO THAT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO CHECK IT.
2:06:59PM WE STILL HAVE TO CHECK IT.
2:07:00PM IT'S TO KEEP STAFF FROM PHYSICALLY GETTING ON THE ROOFS
2:07:05PM BECAUSE THE LIABILITY OF LADDERS, SOMEBODY FALLING OFF THE
2:07:08PM LADDERS.
2:07:09PM STAFF, THEY MAY GO TO THE RESIDENCE AND DRIVE OFF, IT'S
2:07:12PM BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO THE RESIDENCE, THEY ARE CHECKING
2:07:14PM THE PHOTOS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED, WHAT'S BEEN UPLOADED TO
2:07:16PM THE RECORD, THE AFFIDAVIT THAT'S BEEN INSTALLED CORRECTLY
2:07:19PM AND WE GO FROM THERE.
2:07:20PM IF THEY DO SEE A DISCREPANCY THEY CAN FAIL IT THERE BECAUSE
2:07:24PM THEY ARE AT THE SITE.
2:07:25PM IT'S NOT LIKE WE NEVER WENT.
2:07:27PM WE'RE ABLE TO COVER THAT BASE AS WELL.
2:07:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
2:07:30PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:07:32PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.
2:07:37PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
2:07:37PM ABBYE FEELEY.
2:07:40PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3 IS A MOTION THAT WAS MADE IN RELATION
2:07:43PM TO THE CITY'S GREEN BUILDING ORDINANCES.
2:07:47PM MUCH LIKE A RECENT PRESENTATION I MADE TO YOU COLLECTIVELY
2:07:51PM WITH VIK BHIDE AND WHIT REMER ON EV PARKING AND CHARGING,
2:07:58PM HERE TODAY WITH WHIT AND JC TO GIVE AN OVERALL PRESENTATION
2:08:03PM ON THE GREEN BUILDING INITIATIVES ORDINANCE.
2:08:05PM CAN YOU BRING UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE?
2:08:10PM THANK YOU.
2:08:12PM THE CITY'S ORIGINAL GREEN BUILDING ORDINANCE WAS PASSED IN
2:08:16PM 2008.
2:08:18PM IT WAS DONE TO ENCOURAGE RESOURCE CONSERVATION, REDUCE THE
2:08:22PM WASTE GENERATED BY CONSTRUCTION, INCREASE ENERGY EFFICIENCY,
2:08:25PM AND PROMOTE THE HEALTH AND PRODUCTIVITY OF RESIDENTS,
2:08:28PM WORKERS, AND VISITORS.
2:08:29PM AND TODAY WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS THE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND,
2:08:34PM OUR CURRENT CODE, INCENTIVES THAT WE HAVE AS WELL AS
2:08:38PM INCENTIVES IN OTHER CITIES AND THEN SOME RECOMMENDATIONS
2:08:40PM THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU.
2:08:42PM ONE THING COUNCIL TOUCHED ON ALREADY THIS MORNING THAT'S
2:08:46PM VERY MUCH THE FACT IS WHY I BROUGHT THIS UP, OUR GREEN
2:08:49PM ORDINANCE WAS IN '08 IS THAT TIMES CHANGE.
2:08:51PM TECHNOLOGY CHANGES.
2:08:52PM GROWTH PATTERNS CHANGE.
2:08:55PM THE ABILITY TO USE OTHER APPLIANCES OR SOLAR OR ALL THESE
2:09:00PM THINGS CHANGE.
2:09:01PM IN FACT, RECENTLY, THERE WAS A BUILDING CODE CHANGE THAT NOW
2:09:04PM ONLY REQUIRES A CERTAIN AIR CONDITIONING SEER TO BE USED
2:09:09PM THAT BUILDERS CAN NO LONGER USE A LESSER SEER.
2:09:13PM ALL THESE THINGS ARE CHANGING AND THAT'S WHERE SOME OF OUR
2:09:16PM RECOMMENDATIONS COME INTO TODAY ON WHAT'S KIND OF BROUGHT US
2:09:20PM FORWARD FROM 2008 NOW TO 2023.
2:09:22PM WE ARE GOING TO COVER -- NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
2:09:27PM SORRY.
2:09:28PM THIS WAS JUST THE MOTION.
2:09:29PM HERE WITH THE MOTIONS, THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE, AND WE HAVE
2:09:38PM BEEN WORKING TO COME TOGETHER AND WORK ON THIS BOTH FROM OUR
2:09:43PM SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY SIDE WITH WHIT AS WELL AS OUR
2:09:46PM CONSTRUCTION SIDE WITH JC IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A
2:09:49PM COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
2:09:53PM WE'LL TALK WITH YOU TODAY ABOUT THE GREEN FAST TRACK
2:09:57PM PROGRAM, INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE SUSTAINABLE CONSTRUCTION
2:10:00PM AND THEN CITY-FUNDED CONSTRUCTION AND RENOVATION.
2:10:03PM I'LL TURN IT OVER TO WHIT, AND THEN JC, AND HOPEFULLY THIS
2:10:07PM WON'T BE TOO LONG AND WE'LL COVER SOME GOOD INFORMATION FOR
2:10:10PM YOU.
2:10:10PM >>WHIT REMER: THANKS, ABBYE.
2:10:13PM GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
2:10:16PM I'LL TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT GREEN FAST TRACK PROGRAM.
2:10:20PM I'LL TALK ABOUT CITY-FUNDED PROJECTS AND THE REQUIREMENT FOR
2:10:25PM GREEN LEED SILVER CERTIFICATION AND THEN THE ORDINANCE WITH
2:10:30PM RELATION TO THE INCENTIVES.
2:10:31PM THE GREEN FAST TRACK PROGRAM, THIS WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVELY
2:10:37PM CREATED KIND OF WORK SHEET THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR MANY
2:10:41PM YEARS.
2:10:41PM I THINK MY PREDECESSOR, THOM SNELLING, PROBABLY WORKED WITH
2:10:45PM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.
2:10:49PM AND IT'S A CHECKLIST THAT YOU CAN GO IN AND PROVIDE
2:10:52PM ALONGSIDE YOUR PERMIT APPLICATION.
2:10:55PM THERE ARE TWO PATHS THAT AN APPLICANT CAN PURSUE.
2:10:59PM ONE IS FOR COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES THAT ARE OVER 5,000 FEET,
2:11:03PM AND THOSE REQUIRE THIRD-PARTY CERTIFICATION.
2:11:06PM THAT WOULD BE, IN THIS INSTANCE, THE FLORIDA GREEN BUILDING
2:11:11PM COALITION OR THE U.S. GREEN BUILDING COUNCIL.
2:11:14PM FOR COMMERCIAL PROJECTS UNDER 5,000 SQUARE FEET AND FOR
2:11:18PM RESIDENTIAL HOMES, THERE'S KIND OF A SELF-REPORTED
2:11:21PM CHECKLIST.
2:11:21PM YOU CAN GO AND CHECK HIGH ENERGY EFFICIENT WINDOWS, LOW
2:11:26PM FLUSH APPLIANCES.
2:11:27PM THE POINT OF DOING THIS, THE IDEA OF CREATING THIS PROGRAM
2:11:30PM WAS TO EXPEDITE PERMIT PROCESSING.
2:11:34PM AFTER A REVIEW OF THE UTILIZATION OF THIS PROGRAM, WE FOUND
2:11:40PM THAT IT'S NOT USED REALLY AT ALL, AND WE'VE KIND OF
2:11:45PM STRUGGLED TO DETERMINE THE EXACT REASON FOR THAT, BUT I
2:11:49PM THINK THE REASON THAT WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO REPORT TODAY IS
2:11:52PM BECAUSE JC AND HIS TEAM ARE ACTUALLY ALREADY PRETTY QUICK AT
2:11:56PM PROVIDING THOSE FIRST ROUND OF COMMENTS AND PROCESSING THE
2:12:00PM PERMITS.
2:12:00PM SO THERE'S NOT REALLY AN INCENTIVE FOR BUILDERS TO GO
2:12:03PM THROUGH THIS LABORIOUS CHECKLIST OR GO PAY FOR THE
2:12:07PM THIRD-PARTY CERTIFICATION WHEN THERE'S REALLY NO INCENTIVE
2:12:11PM BECAUSE WE ARE SO EXPEDITIOUS WITH OUR PERMITTING HERE AT
2:12:14PM THE CITY.
2:12:15PM A GOOD NEWS STORY TO REPORT THERE.
2:12:20PM JUST SOME NUMBERS TO THAT.
2:12:21PM I THINK JC AND HIS TEAM, 90% OF THEIR RESIDENTIAL PERMITS
2:12:25PM ARE BEING RETURNED FOR FIRST-ROUND COMMENTS WITHIN TEN DAYS
2:12:30PM AND ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE WITHIN 15 DAYS.
2:12:33PM THE OTHER KIND OF COMPOUNDING FACTOR IS THERE IS A STATE LAW
2:12:36PM THAT REQUIRES SHOP TO TURN AROUND COMMENTS, 30 DAYS FOR
2:12:40PM RESIDENTIAL AND 120 DAYS FOR COMMERCIAL.
2:12:42PM AGAIN, THIS WAS I THINK PROBABLY A GOOD IDEA WHEN IT WAS
2:12:46PM CREATED.
2:12:46PM PROBABLY WHEN THAT SHOP WASN'T PROCESSING APPLICATIONS MAYBE
2:12:51PM AS FAST, GIVEN THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S COME ALONGSIDE OF
2:12:54PM ACCELA.
2:12:55PM SO THAT IS THE GREEN FAST TRACK PROGRAM IN A NUTSHELL.
2:12:59PM THE SECOND KIND OF GREEN BUILDING INCENTIVE PROGRAM THAT I
2:13:05PM WANTED TO RAISE TO YOUR ATTENTION IS FOUND IN CHAPTER 17.
2:13:09PM AND THIS WAS PUT INTO PLACE IN 2008 BY ORDINANCE.
2:13:12PM AND THIS REQUIRES ALL CITY-FUNDED CONSTRUCTION TO PURSUE
2:13:18PM LEED SILVER CERTIFICATION UNLESS THERE'S SOME TYPE OF
2:13:23PM ADMINISTRATIVE DETERMINATION THAT DOING SO WOULD BE COST
2:13:27PM INEFFECTIVE.
2:13:28PM SO THERE HASN'T BEEN PRIOR TO -- AND YOU SAW THE GREAT EIGHT
2:13:34PM THIS MORNING, NEW CONSTRUCTION OF CITY BUILDINGS IN THE LAST
2:13:36PM DECADE, BUT WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THAT NOW.
2:13:38PM I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT ORDINANCE IS FINALLY REPORTING.
2:13:41PM WE APPLIED IT TO HANNA AVENUE.
2:13:43PM HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO GET WELL ABOVE LEED SILVER, BUT
2:13:46PM THAT WILL BE A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT THAT WAS PUT INTO THE
2:13:48PM ORIGINAL RFP.
2:13:50PM FOR ANY CONSTRUCTION OR SUBSTANTIAL RENOVATION, AND THAT
2:13:56PM USUALLY TRIGGERS AT 50% OF THE BUILDING FOR LEED SILVER OR
2:14:03PM AN EQUIVALENT STANDARD.
2:14:04PM WE'RE ALSO PURSUING LEED SILVER AT THE EAST TAMPA REC
2:14:09PM CENTER.
2:14:09PM AGAIN, THIS IS JUST GETTING AHEAD OF THE PROJECTS AND WE'RE
2:14:12PM USING CITY FUNDS.
2:14:14PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PROVIDING ENERGY EFFICIENCY WHICH
2:14:17PM SAVES MONEY IN THE LONG RUN AND, OF COURSE, HAPPY PLACES FOR
2:14:20PM PEOPLE TO WORK, LIVE AND PLAY.
2:14:22PM HEALTHY AND HAPPY PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE, WORK AND PLAY.
2:14:25PM FINALLY, I WANT TO TOUCH ON PART OF THAT ORDINANCE THAT IS
2:14:28PM PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL ONES, BUT IS LEAST
2:14:31PM UTILIZED RIGHT NOW, AND I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
2:14:32PM WHY.
2:14:32PM THIS IS SECTION 175204.
2:14:39PM IT ESTABLISHES A PROCESS FOR PARTIAL REBATES FOR PERMIT
2:14:43PM FEES.
2:14:43PM IMPORTANTLY, THIS RELIES ON ANNUAL BUDGET APPROPRIATIONS.
2:14:47PM UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T USE CONSTRUCTION ENHANCEMENT FEES TO
2:14:49PM FUND THAT.
2:14:50PM BASED ON OUR RESEARCH, SINCE THIS HAS BEEN IN ORDINANCE
2:14:54PM SINCE 2008, NO ADMINISTRATION HAS PROPOSED IT IN A BUDGET TO
2:14:59PM BE FUNDED.
2:15:00PM AND I DON'T THINK THAT CITY COUNCIL --
2:15:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EVERYBODY GOOD ON THEIR PHONES?
2:15:10PM >>WHIT REMER: SO THE WAY THIS PROGRAM WORKS IS FOR
2:15:12PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES OR MAJOR MODIFICATIONS.
2:15:16PM YOU CAN PURSUE A FLORIDA GREEN BUILDING COALITION GREEN HOME
2:15:22PM STANDARD AND THAT WILL ENABLE YOU 50% REBATE.
2:15:25PM THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT IS KIND OF ANALOGOUS TO LEED AND
2:15:28PM USGBC.
2:15:31PM WE'LL PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT OUR RELATIONSHIP
2:15:36PM WITH THAT GROUP AND HOW WE DON'T THINK THAT'S MAYBE AS AN
2:15:41PM EFFECTIVE CERTIFYING AGENCY AS USGBC.
2:15:44PM FOR NEW COMMERCIAL OR MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, SOME PRETTY
2:15:48PM SIGNIFICANT REBATES.
2:15:49PM IF YOU PURSUE LEED PLATINUM CERTIFICATION, 80% REBATE, 60%
2:15:53PM AT GOLD, 40% AT SILVER, AND 20% FOR CERTIFIED.
2:15:56PM SO FOR SOME OF THE BIGGER NEW CONSTRUCTION, YOU COULD HAVE
2:16:00PM SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN PERMIT FEES.
2:16:04PM SO THIS COULD BE A REAL INCENTIVE FOR FOLKS TO SPEND A
2:16:07PM LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY ON THE LEED CERTIFICATION.
2:16:10PM AGAIN, THOSE THAT AREN'T FAMILIAR, LEED IS LEADERSHIP ENERGY
2:16:13PM ENVIRONMENTAL DESIGN.
2:16:14PM IT IS A VERY STRICT ROBUST PROTOCOL THAT GOES ABOVE AND
2:16:19PM BEYOND THE BASE BUILDING CODE.
2:16:21PM FLORIDA HAS AN INCREDIBLY STRONG BUILDING CODE, AND WE'LL
2:16:24PM TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY WE'RE KIND OF CONCENTRATING ON
2:16:27PM THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL RATHER THAN
2:16:30PM THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IN THE NEXT PART OF THE
2:16:32PM PRESENTATION, WHICH MY COLLEAGUE JC WILL COVER.
2:16:37PM >>JC HUDGISON: GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.
2:16:39PM JC HUDGISON, CONSTRUCTION SERVICE CENTER MANAGER.
2:16:41PM SO SINCE WE STARTED THE RESEARCH HERE FOR THE ACCELA SYSTEM
2:16:46PM AND GOING THROUGH TO CONFIRM WHAT IS LEED CERTIFIED AND WHAT
2:16:51PM ISN'T.
2:16:52PM BASED OFF OF THE USGBC, UNITED STATES GREEN BUILDING
2:16:55PM COUNCIL, THERE'S 302 BUILDINGS IN TAMPA CURRENTLY THAT ARE
2:16:57PM AT LEAST LEED CERTIFIED.
2:17:01PM SO FOR US, IT'S GOOD THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING THIS WITHOUT
2:17:03PM BEING COERCED.
2:17:05PM WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY ADVERTISING THE REBATE AS MUCH AND WE
2:17:09PM STILL HAVE 302 BUILDINGS OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS THAT HAVE
2:17:14PM GONE THROUGH THIS.
2:17:19PM AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU HAVE SKY CENTER, METROPOLITAN
2:17:20PM MINISTRIES.
2:17:22PM DIFFERENT SIZES AND SCALES OF PROJECTS THAT ARE AT LEAST
2:17:25PM BEING CITY LEED CERTIFIED.
2:17:29PM ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO DID, I REACHED OUT TO THE BUILDING
2:17:32PM OFFICIALS AND DEVELOPMENT GROUPS IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
2:17:36PM WE JUST SAY, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
2:17:39PM WE'RE CURIOUS TO SEE.
2:17:40PM SO THE ONLY TWO CITIES THAT WE KNOW IN THE BAY AREA WITH
2:17:43PM LARGO AND ST. PETERSBURG PROVIDING BONUS DENSITY IF YOU USE
2:17:47PM GREEN BUILDING.
2:17:47PM BUT MOST OTHER JURISDICTIONS DON'T.
2:17:49PM NOW, THE TIE THERE IS WITH THE BUILDING CODE.
2:17:53PM TECHNICALLY PER STATE STATUTE I HAVE TO ISSUE THE BUILDING
2:17:56PM CODE AND SAME PERMIT FEE FOR EVERYONE, SO I CAN'T PROVIDE A
2:17:59PM DISCOUNT TO PROVIDE SOMEONE ELSE.
2:18:02PM MOST OF THE TIMES I CONTACT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THEY
2:18:05PM DON'T HAVE GREEN INITIATIVES BECAUSE STATE LAW WON'T ALLOW
2:18:08PM US TO PROVIDE A DISCOUNT AT THE TIME.
2:18:10PM SO THE RECOMMENDATIONS, SUNSETTING THE FAST TRACK PROGRAM,
2:18:13PM SOME OF THAT IS TO EVALUATE TO LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE ARE
2:18:16PM WE REACHING THE RIGHT GROUP, IS THAT COORDINATED, CAN IT BE
2:18:19PM COORDINATED BETTER?
2:18:21PM AS WHIT MENTIONED, REVISING CHAPTER 17, JUST TRYING TO MAKE
2:18:24PM SURE THAT'S BETTER SPELLED OUT.
2:18:26PM OBVIOUSLY, AS WE'VE DONE THIS RESEARCH AND AS I JUST
2:18:30PM MENTIONED WE HAVE TO PROVIDE AN ALLOCATION SOMEWHERE.
2:18:32PM THERE WILL BE A REQUEST IN THE CURRENT BUDGET FOR AN
2:18:35PM ALLOCATION TO HAVE MONEY FOR THAT.
2:18:36PM BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, AS A STATE, WHEN WE ISSUE THE PERMIT
2:18:39PM FEES, I CAN'T TAKE OUT OF THAT MONEY TO PROVIDE A REBATE
2:18:41PM BACK.
2:18:42PM I HAVE TO HAVE A FUND TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.
2:18:44PM SO WE THINK A LOT OF TIMES WE'VE HAD NOT A LOT OF BUY INTO
2:18:48PM IT IS BECAUSE THERE WAS NEVER A FUND SET ASIDE TO DO SO.
2:18:51PM IT WAS PUT IN THE CODE TO DO IT AND THEN IT WAS JUST NEVER
2:18:54PM FUNDED.
2:18:55PM WE BELIEVE ADDING THESE THREE THINGS TOGETHER WILL BE ABLE
2:18:57PM TO PROVIDE US A WAY TO BE ABLE TO FURTHER INCENTIVIZE THESE
2:19:02PM OPTIONS.
2:19:03PM WE'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:19:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL MEMBER MANISCALCO.
2:19:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS WONDERING, ON NEW CONSTRUCTION,
2:19:10PM WHAT DOES OUR CODE SAY, IF ANYTHING, REGARDING ANY
2:19:14PM REQUIREMENTS ON ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS?
2:19:18PM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE.
2:19:22PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY.
2:19:24PM THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING BACK BEFORE YOU IN THE JANUARY
2:19:27PM TEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE BASED ON THE WORKSHOP WE DID A FEW
2:19:30PM MONTHS AGO IN REQUIRING THAT.
2:19:32PM WE WEREN'T GOING TO REQUIRE IT FOR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
2:19:35PM HOMES, BUT WE DID HAVE OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
2:19:38PM AND THOSE WILL BE COMING BACK BEFORE YOU.
2:19:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
2:19:40PM THANK YOU.
2:19:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
2:19:42PM I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
2:19:46PM ARE THERE ANY OTHER COST-NEUTRAL INCENTIVES THAT COULD BE
2:19:50PM CONSIDERED INSTEAD OF PARTIAL PERMIT REBATES?
2:19:55PM I.E., DENSITY BONUSES, REDUCTION OF IMPACT FEES, EXPEDITED
2:20:04PM PERMITTING, AND HOW IS THIS PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE JUST TALKING
2:20:08PM ABOUT NOW GOING TO BE TRACKED?
2:20:11PM WILL WE BE ABLE TO GIVE US QUARTERLY REPORTS ON HOW WELL
2:20:17PM IT'S DOING?
2:20:18PM >> OH, SURE.
2:20:18PM >>JC HUDGISON: SO PART OF THE ACCELA SYSTEM, ONE OF THE
2:20:21PM UPDATES IS FOR THE APPLICANT TO SAY THAT THEY ARE APPLYING
2:20:26PM FOR LEED.
2:20:27PM FROM THAT POINT FORWARD, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRACK IT.
2:20:30PM WE WON'T HAVE TO GO TO A SEPARATE SITE.
2:20:31PM WE CAN PULL PER THE MONTH, PER THE WEEK, PER THE YEAR, AND
2:20:33PM WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION BACK TO YOU.
2:20:34PM RIGHT NOW, WE KIND OF HAVE TO SEARCH AND DO ANOTHER LEVEL OF
2:20:37PM SEARCH.
2:20:38PM LITERALLY HAS TO BE IN THE SUMMARY THAT YOU'RE TELLING US
2:20:40PM THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THEN WE'RE DOING A KEYWORD SEARCH
2:20:43PM WHICH IS A LOT HARDER.
2:20:44PM NOW IT WILL BE SEPARATED AS A SEPARATE BOX.
2:20:46PM YOU CHECK THE BOX.
2:20:47PM SIMILAR WE HAVE ONE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
2:20:49PM IF IT'S A AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, WE GET A CHECK.
2:20:52PM WE MAKE SURE WE STAY ON TOP OF THE TIMELINES TO PROVIDE
2:20:55PM SERVICE ON THOSE.
2:20:56PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: JUST TO ADD ON THAT, THEN WHAT WE DO IS WE
2:20:59PM RUN REPORTS ON THAT, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU AND THAT'S
2:21:02PM HOW WE KNOW RIGHT NOW HOW MANY NEW MULTIFAMILY UNITS CAME
2:21:06PM ONLINE.
2:21:07PM HOW MANY OF THOSE MULTIFAMILY UNITS WERE AFFORDABLE.
2:21:09PM WE'LL DO THE SAME THING.
2:21:11PM THE GOAL PER OUR DISCUSSION WAS WE REALIZE THIS HAD NOT BEEN
2:21:16PM FUNDED, SO WORKING TOGETHER AND GOING BACK TO THE
2:21:20PM ADMINISTRATION TO INFORM THEM AND THEN LOOKING AT FUNDING IT
2:21:23PM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR '24 BUDGET AND THEN HOW WOULD THAT WORK.
2:21:29PM IF WE WERE GOING TO START WITH THE REQUEST FOR THE 500,000,
2:21:32PM THAT WOULD BE 250,000 FOR COMMERCIAL AND 250,000 FOR
2:21:37PM MULTIFAMILY, AND IT IS A FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED WITHIN A
2:21:43PM PERIOD OF TIME OF THAT BUILDING GETTING CO'D, THEY HAVE TO
2:21:46PM GET THEIR CERTIFICATION AND COME BACK TO US.
2:21:48PM AND THEN THEY WOULD RECEIVE THE REBATE.
2:21:50PM THE REBATE WOULD BE UP TO $25,000 OF THEIR PERMIT FEE.
2:21:55PM IT WOULD GO BASED ON THOSE PERCENTAGES AND THEIR
2:21:58PM CERTIFICATION WITH A MAXIMUM OF 25,000.
2:22:01PM BASED ON THE 500,000 THAT COULD YIELD US POTENTIALLY 20 NEW
2:22:05PM PROJECTS A YEAR THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO FACILITATE USING THIS
2:22:09PM PROGRAM.
2:22:11PM SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THE MIDST OF STARTING TO
2:22:16PM CONSTRUCT THAT AND PUT THAT TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT IT WOULD
2:22:18PM FALL INTO THE FISCAL YEAR '24.
2:22:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:22:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST ONE LAST THING, IF I MAY.
2:22:26PM JUST THINKING OUT OF THE BOX.
2:22:29PM ANY ONE OF YOU THREE MAYBE CAN HELP ME ON THIS.
2:22:31PM IN ANY CONSTRUCTION THAT IS GOING ON, HOW CAN WE FACILITATE
2:22:37PM AND PUT SOLAR INTO THE MIX WHERE THE DEVELOPER OR THE
2:22:41PM HOMEOWNER CAN PUT SOLAR AND GET A REBATE OF SOME KIND LIKE
2:22:44PM WHAT THEY DO WHEN THEY BUILT THE BONUS PROVISION, BUILDING
2:22:48PM SOMETHING, SO FORTH AND SO ON, IS THERE ANY WAY OF DOING
2:22:51PM THAT?
2:22:51PM >>WHIT REMER: SURE.
2:22:52PM SO THANKFULLY LAST NOVEMBER, THE U.S. CONGRESS PASSED THE
2:22:57PM UNFORTUNATELY NAMED INFLATION REDUCTION ACT BECAUSE IT
2:23:01PM DOESN'T REALLY REFLECT ALL THE GREAT GREEN AND CLEAN ENERGY,
2:23:06PM RENEWABLE ENERGY PROVISIONS THAT ARE IN THAT BILL.
2:23:09PM BUT THE BEST WAY TO ENCOURAGE SOLAR RIGHT NOW IS THROUGH
2:23:12PM THAT 30% TAX CREDIT THAT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE FEDERAL
2:23:17PM GOVERNMENT.
2:23:17PM WE ALSO -- AND I'M ACTUALLY HAPPY THAT YOU BROUGHT THAT UP
2:23:21PM BECAUSE I WANTED TO BRING IN OUR COLLEAGUES FROM THE SOLAR
2:23:24PM UNITED NEIGHBORS WHO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FACILITATED THE
2:23:28PM SOLAR ON YOUR HOUSE.
2:23:30PM THEY WANT TO DO A REPORT FOR THEIR LATEST CO-OP AND PROVIDE
2:23:33PM YOU GUYS SOME NUMBERS FOR WHAT THEIR GOALS WERE GETTING
2:23:36PM SOLAR THROUGH THE CO-OP MODEL IN TAMPA.
2:23:40PM SO THERE IS A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE
2:23:42PM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
2:23:43PM IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING CODE, FLORIDA HAS A VERY, VERY
2:23:47PM STRONG BUILDING CODE WITH REGARDS TO ENERGY EFFICIENCY.
2:23:51PM AND THAT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION AND RETROFITS.
2:23:55PM THE BEST THING WE CAN DO TO REDUCE ENERGY IS THROUGH ENERGY
2:23:59PM EFFICIENCY.
2:24:00PM THEN ONCE YOU'VE DONE ALL OF THAT, PUTTING SOLAR ON IS A
2:24:03PM NEXT GREAT STEP.
2:24:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BUT CAN IT BE DONE?
2:24:07PM WHEN YOU ARE BUILDING SOMETHING -- CAN WE SUPPLEMENT SOLAR
2:24:12PM FOR A BONUS?
2:24:15PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: RIGHT NOW, I WAS JUST ACTUALLY WORKING WITH
2:24:17PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST FRIDAY AFTERNOON ABOUT THE
2:24:21PM BONUS DENSITY AND WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO
2:24:25PM MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT AS PART OF THE PLAN UPDATE BECAUSE AS
2:24:28PM YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW, THE STATE REQUIRES -- WE HAVE A GRAY
2:24:32PM WATER BONUS, AND WE DID USED TO HAVE LEED AS AN OPTION.
2:24:40PM IT WASN'T SPECIFIC TO SOLAR, BUT IT WAS SPECIFIC TO LEED.
2:24:42PM SO WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND LOOKING
2:24:48PM PREDOMINANTLY ON RESTRUCTURING OUR BONUS TO BE SUPPORTING
2:24:52PM AND PROMOTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
2:24:54PM THAT IS FIRST AND FOREMOST.
2:24:56PM AND THERE ARE SEVERAL BRANCHES TO HOW THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT
2:24:59PM NOW IN THAT DISCUSSION.
2:25:01PM I'LL ACTUALLY HAVE A FOLLOW-UP WITH MELISSA ZORNITTA NEXT
2:25:05PM WEEK TO TALK ABOUT THE STRUCTURE OF WHAT THAT MEANS.
2:25:08PM ENVIRONMENTAL, WE DO, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY
2:25:12PM AND RESILIENCY, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THAT, AND I WILL
2:25:15PM DEFINITELY KEEP IT AT THE TOP OF OUR DECISION.
2:25:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANKS AGAIN FOR BRINGING UP AFFORDABLE
2:25:19PM HOUSING.
2:25:20PM THAT'S A GREAT WAY OF REDUCING SOMEBODY'S PAYMENT ON THE
2:25:24PM HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING LESS THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL
2:25:27PM WITH.
2:25:27PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: RIGHT.
2:25:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT JUST HELPS PEOPLE THAT REALLY WANT TO
2:25:30PM HELP THEMSELVES AND CAN'T, BUT REDUCING THAT WOULD CERTAINLY
2:25:34PM HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE.
2:25:34PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WELL, I KNOW THAT ON ONE OF OUR HOUSES FROM
2:25:38PM INFILL ONE THAT HABITAT WORKED ON, THEY DID A PARTNERSHIP
2:25:41PM WITH A SOLAR COMPANY AND I BELIEVE -- THERE ARE TWO NUMBERS
2:25:47PM POPPING IN MY HEAD RIGHT NOW.
2:25:48PM ONE IS $4 AND ONE IS $11.
2:25:50PM I BELIEVE THE HOMEOWNER'S ELECTRIC BILL ENDED UP BEING $11 A
2:25:55PM MONTH WITH THE SOLAR INSTALLED AND THEN THAT WAS THEIR WATER
2:26:02PM HEATER, THEIR AIR CONDITIONING, EVERYTHING.
2:26:04PM SO THERE IS, BUT THAT I KNOW WAS A PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE, OF
2:26:07PM COURSE, WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING AFFORDABLE, YOU'RE TRYING TO
2:26:10PM KEEP THOSE COSTS LOWER.
2:26:12PM BUT I WILL DEFINITELY INCORPORATE THAT.
2:26:15PM THANK YOU.
2:26:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:26:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
2:26:19PM MS. FEELEY, IF I MAY, WHIT, HAVE YOU BRIEFED THE REST OF THE
2:26:22PM COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS GREEN TEAM?
2:26:24PM >>WHIT REMER: I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE HAD A CHANCE TO DO THAT.
2:26:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU BRIEFLY JUST TELL US, JUST BRIEFLY.
2:26:29PM >>WHIT REMER: SURE.
2:26:30PM LAST WEEK, WE LAUNCHED THE CITY OF TAMPA'S GREEN TEAM.
2:26:33PM THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH VOLUNTEER
2:26:35PM FLORIDA AND AMERICORPS.
2:26:37PM IT'S A THREE-YEAR PROGRAM.
2:26:40PM FOR THIS FIRST COHORT, WE'VE HIRED OR PARTNERED WITH 20
2:26:44PM PART-TIME MEMBERS TO SERVE IN THE COMMUNITY TO TACKLE
2:26:48PM LITTER, TO PLANT TREES, ENGAGE IN BEAUTIFICATION, CLEAN UP
2:26:51PM OUR STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
2:26:53PM AN INCREDIBLY DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE.
2:26:55PM HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE APPLIED TO JOIN US, AND THEY ARE PAID A
2:26:59PM LIVING STIPEND, AND THIS IS, AGAIN, FACILITATED THROUGH AN
2:27:02PM AMERICORPS GRANT.
2:27:04PM WE ARE THE FIRST STEWARDSHIP CITY-SPONSORED PROGRAM IN THE
2:27:09PM STATE OF FLORIDA.
2:27:09PM THEY WERE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED.
2:27:10PM IN FACT, MIAMI CALLED ME LAST WEEK AND SAID HOW DID YOU GUYS
2:27:14PM PULL THIS OFF?
2:27:15PM IT'S SO COOL.
2:27:15PM WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS FOR THREE YEARS.
2:27:17PM PEOPLE IN GREEN SHIRTS AROUND THE COMMUNITY PICKING UP
2:27:20PM TRASH, PLANTING TREES, MAKING SURE THE STORMWATER
2:27:22PM INFRASTRUCTURE IS CLEANED UP, AND THIS WAS A KIND OF QUICK
2:27:24PM WAY TO GET PEOPLE ENGAGED BUT ALSO TO HELP ADDRESS THOSE
2:27:27PM ISSUES THAT YOU GUYS GET CALLS ON I THINK A LOT.
2:27:30PM WE'RE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROGRAM AND THANKS
2:27:34PM FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN FACILITATING THAT GRANT.
2:27:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, WHIT.
2:27:43PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: COUNCIL, IF I MAY VERY QUICKLY BEFORE YOU
2:27:45PM MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
2:27:47PM I BELIEVE THERE WAS A MEMO THAT ASKED IF WE COULD COME UNDER
2:27:50PM STAFF REPORTS ON THE 2nd TO DISCUSS WITH YOU $800,000 THE
2:27:54PM CITY IS RECEIVING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN WHAT ARE
2:27:58PM RUSH FUNDS.
2:27:58PM AND THESE ARE TO HELP HOMELESS WITH RAPID REHOUSING.
2:28:02PM THIS WAS AN ALLOCATION THAT CAME.
2:28:04PM IT DOES NOT REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT,
2:28:07PM BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO COME UNDER STAFF REPORTS ON THE 2nd
2:28:11PM AND PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME INFORMATION CONCERNING THAT
2:28:14PM ALLOCATION THAT'S COME FROM HUD.
2:28:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
2:28:19PM MANISCALCO.
2:28:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:28:21PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:28:22PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:28:23PM THANK YOU.
2:28:24PM ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, IS THERE ANYBODY IN CHAMBERS WHO
2:28:29PM WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3?
2:28:33PM SEEING NONE, CHIEF TRIPP, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
2:28:38PM PATIENCE.
2:28:39PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4.
2:28:48PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
2:28:50PM CHIEF TRIPP, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AGAIN.
2:28:52PM OF COURSE, BASED ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, THE DISCUSSION WAS TO
2:28:57PM GIVE INFORMATION CONCERNING COMMUNICATION WHENEVER THERE IS
2:29:00PM AN EMERGENCY WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
2:29:01PM SO WITH THAT, EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PRETTY MUCH FALLS ON
2:29:06PM THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT WHICH IS DONE IN MY PORTFOLIO.
2:29:09PM AND, OF COURSE, I HAVE THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT,
2:29:11PM WHICH IS MY EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, JOHN
2:29:16PM ANTAPASIS, WHO IS GOING TO KIND OF OUTLAY SOME OF THE
2:29:20PM COMMUNICATION THAT WE DO THROUGH ALL OF THE CITY EMPLOYEES,
2:29:23PM INCLUDING YOU ALL AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY.
2:29:24PM WE HAVE SOME HANDOUTS SO YOU CAN GO ALONG.
2:29:28PM WE HAVE A SLIDE PRESENTATION.
2:29:29PM WE'LL HAND THE HANDOUTS TO YOU SO YOU CAN --
2:30:05PM I'LL LET EMERGENCY COORDINATOR JOHN ANTAPASIS REVIEW ALL OF
2:30:23PM THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE HAVE.
2:30:24PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
2:30:25PM JOHN ANTAPASIS, EMERGENCY COORDINATOR WITH THE CITY OF
2:30:28PM TAMPA.
2:30:29PM I WANTED TO GIVE YOU TODAY A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR
2:30:31PM PROCEDURES FOR COMMUNICATING WITH YOU AS CITY COUNCIL DURING
2:30:34PM EMERGENCY INCIDENTS.
2:30:36PM OBVIOUSLY, WE HAD HURRICANE IAN LAST YEAR.
2:30:38PM THAT WAS THE LAST TIME I SPOKE IN FRONT OF YOU ABOUT A WEEK
2:30:41PM BEFORE IT MADE LANDFALL IN SOUTHWEST FLORIDA.
2:30:44PM REAL QUICKLY, I WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR
2:30:47PM DIVISION WITHIN TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND HOW WE GET OUR
2:30:50PM COMMUNICATION METHODS THROUGH DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND THE
2:30:52PM NEXT FEW SLIDES I'LL SHOW HOW WE COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY TO YOU
2:30:55PM AS CITY COUNCIL WHEN WE GET THE INFORMATION.
2:30:58PM OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, WE ARE A SMALL DIVISION IN
2:31:00PM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
2:31:01PM THERE ARE FOUR GUYS AS PART OF OUR TEAM.
2:31:03PM BUT AS A SMALL TEAM, WE ARE VERY MIGHTY.
2:31:06PM WE WORK WITH ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, ALL OUR DEPARTMENTS
2:31:09PM WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS A ROLE DURING
2:31:12PM AN EMERGENCY AND WE HAVE TO BE SURE WE'RE PREPARED TO
2:31:16PM RESPOND TO THE EMERGENCY SITUATIONS WHEN THEY DO OCCUR.
2:31:18PM ALSO, AS PART OF OUR TEAM, OUR DUTIES ARE THAT ONE OF US IS
2:31:21PM ON CALL 24/7 EACH WEEK AND THERE IS A ROTATION SCHEDULE THAT
2:31:25PM GOES ON THERE.
2:31:26PM WE CALL IT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DUTY OFFICER.
2:31:28PM ON THAT WEEK AT ANY GIVEN TIME, THAT INDIVIDUAL IS
2:31:30PM MONITORING COMMUNICATIONS THAT WE GET FROM HILLSBOROUGH
2:31:33PM COUNTY, STATE OF FLORIDA, DIFFERENT AGENCIES WITHIN THE
2:31:36PM STATE AS WELL AS OUR DEPARTMENTS OF ANY EMERGENCY
2:31:39PM SITUATIONS.
2:31:40PM DAY TO DAY, WE'RE GETTING MESSAGES FOR MOTOR VEHICLE
2:31:44PM ACCIDENTS, HAZARDOUS MATERIAL INCIDENTS, ENVIRONMENTAL
2:31:47PM INCIDENTS, THESE ARE GOING ON CONSTANTLY.
2:31:49PM THROUGHOUT THE DAY OUR PHONE GETS BEEPS AND PAGES FOR
2:31:52PM EMERGENCIES AT A LOWER LEVEL THAT DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO
2:31:54PM BE COMMUNICATED OUT TO ALL OUR STAKEHOLDERS.
2:31:56PM BUT THAT IS CONTINUING -- THAT IS ALWAYS BEING MONITORED.
2:31:59PM ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PRESENTATION, YOU DO SEE WE HAVE
2:32:03PM THESE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT WE GET INFORMATION FROM,
2:32:05PM WHETHER IT'S SEVERE WEATHER FROM THE NATIONAL WEATHER
2:32:06PM SERVICE, STREET FLOODING FROM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, WATER
2:32:10PM MAIN BREAKS FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT, INFECTIOUS DISEASE.
2:32:14PM BACK IN COVID-19 WE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE DEPARTMENT
2:32:16PM OF HEALTH.
2:32:17PM ALL THAT DATA AND COMMUNICATION IS FUNNELING THROUGH OUR
2:32:20PM DIVISION AND THEN WE HAVE TO ANALYZE THAT TO SAY WHEN IT'S
2:32:23PM GOING TO BE EXPANDED OUT AND NEED TO BE COMMUNICATED
2:32:26PM DIRECTLY WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND THEN ULTIMATELY TO CITY
2:32:28PM COUNCIL.
2:32:28PM SO OUR SEVERE WEATHER BRIEFINGS, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED
2:32:36PM ONE YESTERDAY.
2:32:36PM WE HAD ONE GO OUT FOR THE COLD FRONT THAT WAS COMING THROUGH
2:32:40PM LATE EVENING YESTERDAY AS WELL AS THE COLD TEMPERATURES THAT
2:32:43PM WE'RE EXPECTING TONIGHT INTO TOMORROW MORNING, AND THEN INTO
2:32:46PM TOMORROW NIGHT, AS WELL AS THOSE COLD WEATHER SHELTERS THAT
2:32:49PM WILL BE ACTIVATED.
2:32:50PM WE ROUTINELY GET THESE SEVERE WEATHER BRIEFINGS FROM THE
2:32:54PM NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE AND WE COMMUNICATE THOSE OUT.
2:32:57PM OUR BASIC THRESHOLD IN OUR PROCEDURE IS ANYTHING AT A
2:32:59PM MARGINAL RISK OR HIGHER, SO THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE
2:33:02PM DOES HAVE SIX LEVELS.
2:33:04PM LEVEL ZERO IS A THUNDERSTORM THREAT.
2:33:08PM WE DON'T NECESSARILY PUSH THOSE OUT.
2:33:09PM ANYTHING FOR MARGINAL RISK ABOVE FOR SEVERE WEATHER, WE'RE
2:33:12PM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SEND OUT THOSE BRIEFINGS, AND YOU
2:33:14PM WOULD GET THOSE VIA E-MAIL FROM US.
2:33:17PM THE NEXT PRODUCT WE ALSO SEND OUT TO CITY COUNCIL IS OUR
2:33:21PM SITUATION REPORTS.
2:33:22PM NOW THIS IS AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE TAKING SPECIAL
2:33:25PM CONSIDERATION OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
2:33:26PM WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH COVID-19, YOU WERE GETTING
2:33:29PM SITUATION REPORTS DAILY FROM US ON THE TRENDS, THE DATA THAT
2:33:33PM WE WERE GETTING FROM THE STATE, THE PROTECTIVE ACTIONS TAKEN
2:33:36PM FROM THE CITY, COUNTY, AS WELL AS OUR STATE AGENCIES AS
2:33:39PM WELL.
2:33:39PM BUT, AGAIN, THIS DOCUMENT IS SET FORTH TO, ONE, DOCUMENT THE
2:33:43PM ACTIONS WE'RE TAKING AS A CITY FOR HISTORICAL PURPOSES,
2:33:47PM WHETHER IF IT ESCALATES FURTHER AND WE BECOME A
2:33:50PM PRESIDENTIALLY DECLARED DISASTER AND WE NEED TO HAVE THE
2:33:53PM DOCUMENTATION OF THE ACTIONS WE'RE TAKING AT THE CITY AND
2:33:55PM ALSO FOR SITUATIONAL AWARENESS.
2:33:56PM ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS WE WORK WITH, ALL THE
2:33:58PM DIFFERENT AGENCIES, LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT, WE WANT TO MAKE
2:34:00PM SURE WE'RE CAPTURING WHAT'S GOING ON.
2:34:03PM THERE'S MORE EFFORT THAT GOES INTO THE SITUATION REPORTS,
2:34:06PM MAPS, DATA THAT WE'RE COLLECTING.
2:34:09PM ANY ADDITIONAL FORECAST.
2:34:11PM IF YOU REMEMBER BEFORE HURRICANE IAN, WE'RE CONSTANTLY
2:34:13PM GETTING UPDATES TO THE TRACK, INTENSITY, AND WHERE THAT
2:34:15PM LANDFALL WAS GOING TO GO FOR THAT STORM.
2:34:17PM AS THAT INFORMATION IS UPDATED AND GIVEN TO US, WE'LL
2:34:20PM INCORPORATE THAT INTO THAT SITUATION REPORT AS WELL.
2:34:23PM WE ALSO, AGAIN, WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH ALL OUR DEPARTMENTS,
2:34:27PM ALTHOUGH WE'RE EMBEDDED IN TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, WE WORK WITH
2:34:30PM MOBILITY.
2:34:30PM WE WORK WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT.
2:34:33PM THERE ARE DIFFERENT ROLES DURING AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, BUT
2:34:36PM THE SITUATION REPORTS WE TAKE INFORMATION THROUGH OUR WEB
2:34:40PM EOC PLATFORM, WHICH IS AN APPLICATION WE USE FOR INFORMATION
2:34:44PM MANAGEMENT, COLLECT WHAT ACTIVITIES ARE GOING ON THROUGHOUT
2:34:46PM THE CITY, COMPILE THIS INTO THE REPORT SO WE'RE GETTING YOU
2:34:50PM THE LATEST, GREATEST DATA.
2:34:52PM OUR WARNING AND NOTIFICATION SYSTEM, YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF
2:34:59PM IT AS ALERT TAMPA, BUT EVER BRIDGE IS THE APPLICATION THAT
2:35:03PM LAUNCHES THOSE MESSAGES THAT GO OUT.
2:35:07PM WE INTERNALLY USE THIS COMMUNICATION METHOD ONE IN
2:35:10PM DEPARTMENTS BUT ALSO WE HAVE A GROUP SET UP FOR CITY COUNCIL
2:35:13PM AS WELL THAT WE CAN BLAST OUT WITHIN AN INSTANT THROUGH YOUR
2:35:17PM CELL PHONE, TEXT MESSAGE, E-MAIL, AND GET PERTINENT
2:35:21PM INFORMATION TO YOU VERY QUICKLY.
2:35:22PM WE SET UP THAT GROUP AHEAD OF TIME TO BE PREPARED THAT IF
2:35:25PM ANY MESSAGES THAT ADMINISTRATION WANTS US TO LAUNCH WE CAN
2:35:28PM DO THAT VERY QUICKLY THROUGH THAT APPLICATION AND ACTUALLY
2:35:31PM THROUGH OUR SMART PHONES EVEN WE HAVE AN APPLICATION TO GET
2:35:33PM THOSE MESSAGES OUT.
2:35:34PM EACH YEAR, WE DO AN ANNUAL TEST OF THAT SYSTEM.
2:35:37PM YOU ALL WERE INCLUDED IN THAT IN MAY OF LAST YEAR.
2:35:40PM WE HIT 4800 PLUS EMPLOYEES TO ENSURE THAT THEY ARE RECEIVING
2:35:44PM THOSE MESSAGES.
2:35:45PM IF THEY DON'T, THEY HAVE ONE OTHER OPPORTUNITY TO CONFIRM
2:35:49PM THEY HAVE RECEIVED THAT THAT NEXT WEEK.
2:35:51PM IF THEY DON'T DO THAT, THEY GET FOLLOWED UP WITH THEIR
2:35:54PM SUPERVISOR.
2:35:55PM WE HAD THAT KNOW YOUR ROLE PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY THAT
2:35:58PM EVERYBODY HAS AN EMERGENCY FUNCTION DURING AN EMERGENCY.
2:36:01PM SO THIS IS OUR MAIN ACTIVATION METHOD TO GET THAT ACTIVATION
2:36:04PM OUT.
2:36:05PM WHEN WE SET UP SHELTERS FOR IAN, WE USED THIS APPLICATION TO
2:36:08PM ACTIVATE THOSE PERSONNEL, GET THEM WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.
2:36:12PM THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER WHEN IT ACTIVATES, SAME
2:36:14PM THING.
2:36:15PM WE'LL USE THIS METHOD TO ACTIVATE THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS
2:36:18PM CENTER AS WE'RE ANTICIPATING FOR SATURDAY WITH GASPARILLA,
2:36:20PM WE'LL HAVE THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTER ACTIVATED.
2:36:23PM WE USE THIS APPLICATION TO ACTIVATE IT AND COMMUNICATE THAT
2:36:25PM TO ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS AND PERSONNEL THAT ARE WORKING THAT
2:36:28PM INCIDENT.
2:36:28PM AND THEN JUST FINALLY, A BIG MESSAGE FOR THE PUBLIC.
2:36:39PM ALERT TAMPA, IF YOU'RE NOT ENROLLED TO IT ALREADY, PLEASE
2:36:41PM ENROLL TO IT.
2:36:42PM IT'S GOING TO BE OUR DIRECT METHOD FROM THE CITY TO
2:36:45PM COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
2:36:47PM GASPARILLA IS COMING UP THIS SATURDAY.
2:36:49PM IF YOU WANT TO BE IN THE KNOW ON THOSE MESSAGES, IF YOU
2:36:51PM HAVEN'T BEEN RECEIVING THEM ALREADY, TEXT THE WORD
2:36:53PM GASPARILLA TO 888777 AND YOU'LL KNOW ALL THE ACTIVITIES THAT
2:36:57PM ARE GOING ON DURING THE EVENT, BUT DURING AN EMERGENCY, THAT
2:37:00PM IS ALSO THE SOFTWARE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET OUT MESSAGES
2:37:03PM QUICKLY TO THE PUBLIC IF THERE'S ANY SHELTER IN PLACE OR ANY
2:37:06PM OTHER EMERGENCY NOTIFICATIONS THAT NEED TO GO OUT TO THE
2:37:08PM CITY.
2:37:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:37:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, I THINK I MADE THE MOTION ON THIS ONE.
2:37:18PM I THINK THE ANNOUNCEMENTS THAT YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT DO
2:37:21PM ARE EXCELLENT.
2:37:23PM DURING THE HURRICANE, WE GET TWICE A DAY DETAILED UPDATES OF
2:37:27PM EVERYTHING GOING ON.
2:37:27PM WE PROBABLY ALL READ THAT.
2:37:30PM I PERSONALLY SIGNED UP FOR THE ALERT TAMPA.
2:37:34PM THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT SENDS US INFO GRAPHICS TO HELP
2:37:39PM THE PUBLIC KNOW HOW TO SIGN UP FOR ALERTS AND OTHER KINDS OF
2:37:43PM ANNOUNCEMENTS.
2:37:44PM THE ISSUES, FEW ISSUES THAT I FACE ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST
2:37:50PM ONE, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT MY COLLEAGUES, CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT
2:37:53PM OUTSIDE OF HERE, AND I WON'T GET THE TIMING EXACTLY RIGHT,
2:37:58PM BUT, WHAT WAS IT, FRIDAY MORNING OR SOMETHING THAT IAN HIT.
2:38:01PM MAYBE MONDAY, WHATEVER DAY IT WAS, LIKE STARTING AROUND 8:00
2:38:06PM IN THE MORNING I WAS TALKING TO PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY AND
2:38:09PM THEY SAID, BY THE WAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE SHUTTING DOWN MOST
2:38:11PM OF SOUTH TAMPA WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS.
2:38:13PM I WAITED ABOUT AN HOUR AND DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
2:38:16PM THEN I CALLED CHIEF OF STAFF OR TEXTED HIM, I CAN'T
2:38:18PM REMEMBER, AND THEN AN HOUR OR TWO, I THINK HE WAS GOING INTO
2:38:22PM A MEETING LIKE AN HOUR OR TWO LATER I GET A HEADS UP THAT
2:38:26PM THEY WERE SHUTTING DOWN MOST OF SOUTH TAMPA.
2:38:28PM SECTION 2 AND THEN LATER SECTION 3.
2:38:31PM WELL, THE PRACTICAL THING FOR ME IS THAT MY KIDS WERE IN
2:38:34PM SCHOOL AND THEY ARE IN THAT ZONE, ZONE A AND B, SORRY.
2:38:39PM AND MY HOUSE IS IN ZONE A.
2:38:43PM SO LOOKING AT THE WAVES, MY HOUSE WOULD HAVE BEEN 15 FEET
2:38:52PM BELOW WATER EVEN THOUGH IT'S HIGH UP.
2:38:54PM PERSONALLY I'M THINKING, HOW DO I GET MY KIDS SAFE, WHAT DO
2:38:57PM I DO WITH MY HOUSE?
2:38:59PM I DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO GO.
2:39:00PM I HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO LOCATE.
2:39:02PM AT THE SAME TIME, CITY COUNCIL MEMBER AND PEOPLE WHO ARE UP
2:39:06PM ON DRIER LAND, THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO.
2:39:09PM COUNCILMAN CITRO LIVES IN A CONDO ON BAYSHORE, SO HE HAS THE
2:39:14PM SAME PROBLEM.
2:39:15PM YOU CAN GO SURFING DOWN STAIRS.
2:39:19PM THE QUESTION WAS, FIRST, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A PROTOCOL
2:39:26PM OUTSIDE OF THE STANDARD THINGS.
2:39:30PM IF YOU THINK OF US AS THE LEGISLATIVE ARM OF THE CITY, JUST
2:39:35PM LIKE -- AND SORRY TO MAKE THIS COMPARISON, BUT JUST LIKE
2:39:38PM CONGRESS HAS AN EMERGENCY PLACE TO GO, EMERGENCY MEETINGS
2:39:40PM AND EVERYTHING, IF WE'RE THINKING ABOUT WORST-CASE
2:39:43PM SCENARIOS, A COUPLE OF THESE HURRICANES LIKE CHARLEY AND
2:39:46PM IAN, I THOUGHT IT MIGHT COME BACK TO HAVE EVERYTHING IN MY
2:39:49PM NEIGHBORHOOD, EVERYTHING SOUTH OF GANDY FOR SURE COMPLETELY
2:39:52PM WIPED OUT.
2:39:53PM IF YOU SEE THE PICTURES OF KATRINA, SOUTH TAMPA COULD END UP
2:39:56PM LIKE KATRINA.
2:39:58PM AND, BY THE WAY, SINCE BACK THERE, MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE LIVES
2:40:04PM RIGHT BY MacDILL, BEFORE THE ANNOUNCEMENT WAS MADE,
2:40:08PM BECAUSE I WAS TALKING TO HER ABOUT IT, SHE JUMPED IN THE CAR
2:40:11PM IMMEDIATELY TO LEAVE.
2:40:12PM IT TOOK HER 30 MINUTES TO GET BY THE McDONALD'S BY
2:40:14PM MacDILL TO TARGET, WHICH USUALLY IS FIVE MINUTES.
2:40:18PM THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THE
2:40:21PM EVACUATION.
2:40:21PM THAT'S BEFORE ANYBODY KNEW ABOUT IT YET.
2:40:23PM THE PUBLIC DIDN'T EVEN KNOW.
2:40:25PM SO ONE THING IS, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A -- TO BE SOME
2:40:29PM KIND OF SPECIAL PROTOCOL FOR BIG DISASTERS.
2:40:32PM IF IT'S GOING TO BE COLD THIS WEEKEND, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT
2:40:34PM BIG DISASTERS, IN THIS CASE, IT COULD COMPLETELY WIPE OUT MY
2:40:39PM DISTRICT.
2:40:40PM MY DISTRICT COULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY UNDER WATER, COULD
2:40:43PM HAVE LOOKED LIKE NEW ORLEANS AFTER KATRINA.
2:40:45PM HAPPENS ABOUT EVERY TEN YEARS WE GET A THREAT LIKE THAT.
2:40:48PM IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF SPECIAL BRIEFING, SOME
2:40:51PM KIND OF SPECIAL COMMUNICATION AND I GUESS THAT WOULD GO TO
2:40:55PM THE CITYWIDE FOLKS AS WELL.
2:40:57PM MAYBE WE COULD JUMP ON A CALL OR COULDN'T TALK WITH EACH
2:41:01PM OTHER.
2:41:02PM BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING OTHER THAN THE
2:41:06PM INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE.
2:41:07PM SOMETIMES I WAS GETTING INFORMATION FASTER BY WATCHING
2:41:10PM TWITTER FROM OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES.
2:41:13PM I THINK I MENTIONED ST. PETE WAS PUTTING SOME STUFF OUT AN
2:41:16PM HOUR OR TWO BEFORE WE DID, SO I WAS ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THE
2:41:19PM THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON.
2:41:20PM SO ONE IS SPECIAL KIND OF -- BECAUSE WE HAVE A
2:41:24PM RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP THE CITY GOING.
2:41:26PM NUMBER TWO IS RELATED TO THAT.
2:41:30PM WE HAVE TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST AND BEST SOURCES OF
2:41:32PM INFORMATION ALSO.
2:41:34PM THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT DID SEND US THINGS.
2:41:37PM THEY DID POST, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT COMMUNICATION
2:41:40PM LINE IS CLEAR AND THAT WE'RE LETTING PEOPLE KNOW AS EARLY AS
2:41:43PM POSSIBLE, LIKE EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW WHEN THE HURRICANE
2:41:45PM HAS PASSED OVER, THEY WANT TO KNOW WHEN CAN THEY COME BACK
2:41:48PM AND WHEN WILL THE TRASH BE PICKED UP?
2:41:50PM WHEN IS THE ROADSIDE?
2:41:52PM ALL OF THAT, THE FASTER WE CAN GET IT OUT, THE LESS PEOPLE
2:41:55PM ARE WORRIED ABOUT IT, AND THEY LOOK TO US TO ANSWER THOSE
2:41:58PM QUESTIONS.
2:41:58PM THE FASTER WE GET IT AND THE FASTER WE CAN POST IT, THEN THE
2:42:02PM BETTER THE INFORMATION GETS OUT.
2:42:03PM THE OTHER THING IS WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL FOR WHAT WE'RE
2:42:09PM SUPPOSED TO DO?
2:42:10PM IF WE DO CERTAIN THINGS, PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, OH, YOU GUYS ARE
2:42:14PM DOING THAT BECAUSE IT'S POLITICALLY SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN
2:42:18PM SHOW OFF DOING OR WHATEVER.
2:42:19PM YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THE KIND OF PHOTO OPS.
2:42:25PM BUT IN REALITY, IF A CATASTROPHIC DISASTER HIT TAMPA,
2:42:29PM REMEMBER WHAT WE HAD TO DO WITH COVID, WHERE WE HAD TO
2:42:33PM LOCATE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER.
2:42:34PM IF, KNOCK ON WOOD, IF SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPENED, HOW
2:42:37PM DO WE REFORM THE GOVERNMENT?
2:42:39PM WHERE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE?
2:42:42PM AND THEN THE CHAIR WENT TO THE EOC BUILDING.
2:42:49PM SORRY TO BRING ALL THIS UP, SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THE MAYOR,
2:42:52PM HE'S THE MAYOR, AND SO MAKES SENSE FOR THEM TO BOTH BE IN
2:42:56PM THE ROOM AT THE SAME TIME.
2:42:57PM I ASSUME THE SEVEN OF US WOULD NOT BE BECAUSE THEN THE
2:43:01PM GOVERNMENT WOULD BE KNOCKED OUT.
2:43:02PM MAYBE YOU ALL DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TODAY.
2:43:04PM WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL FOR CITY COUNCIL?
2:43:06PM WHERE IS CITY COUNCIL SUPPOSED TO BE?
2:43:07PM HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE REACHABLE?
2:43:10PM IN A CATASTROPHIC EVENT, SURE, THE MAYOR HAS SPECIAL POWERS.
2:43:13PM BUT A CERTAIN TIME THAT GOES BY AND YOU NEED ACCESS TO CITY
2:43:17PM COUNCIL.
2:43:18PM SOME KIND OF SUPER EMERGENCY PROTOCOL SO WE WOULD KNOW WHAT
2:43:22PM TO DO AND WHERE TO GO AND HOW TO COMMUNICATE SO THAT WE CAN
2:43:25PM NOT ONLY COMMUNICATE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS, BUT KEEP THE
2:43:28PM GOVERNMENT MOVING IN A SPECIAL DISASTER.
2:43:29PM THANK YOU.
2:43:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:43:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL
2:43:37PM YOUR WORK AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
2:43:39PM I SIGNED UP WITH ALERT TAMPA AND I GET THE NOTIFICATIONS AND
2:43:42PM THE PHONE CALL.
2:43:43PM THE SITUATION REPORTS THAT YOU SEND OUT ARE EXTREMELY
2:43:48PM HELPFUL TO KEEP ME UPDATED OF WHAT'S COMING, YOU KNOW.
2:43:51PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON DID TOUCH ON A LOT OF STUFF, AND HIS
2:43:56PM DISTRICT IS THE MOST VULNERABLE BECAUSE YOU SEE THE SEA
2:44:01PM LEVEL THERE AND EVERYTHING.
2:44:03PM I REMEMBER WHEN IRMA WAS COMING, THE FRIDAY BEFORE IT
2:44:07PM ARRIVED AND AS DOWNTOWN WAS BEING EVACUATED, I WENT AROUND
2:44:10PM TOWN AND I TOOK PICTURES OF ALL THE PLACES I LIKE BECAUSE I
2:44:13PM SAID THIS IS IT.
2:44:14PM I GOT A CALL FROM SOMEBODY IN THE ADMINISTRATION AND SAID,
2:44:18PM HEY, WE'RE HERE FOR YOU COUNCILMAN IF YOU NEED ANYTHING.
2:44:21PM I SAID I HAVE A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS.
2:44:23PM HE GOES, YEP, WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT.
2:44:27PM IF YOU NEED US, WE'RE HERE.
2:44:29PM LUCKILY WE WERE SPARED.
2:44:30PM WHEN I SAW THE WATER BEING PULLED OUT OF THE BAY, I SAID
2:44:33PM WHAT'S COMING BACK IS GOING TO BE WHAT WE CANNOT IMAGINE.
2:44:37PM AGAIN, I SAID EVERYTHING THAT WE LOVE AND PARTS OF THE CITY
2:44:40PM WERE GOING TO BE WIPED OUT.
2:44:42PM HOWEVER WE WERE SPARED THAT AND EVEN WITH IAN MOST RECENTLY.
2:44:45PM BUT GETTING BACK TO THE POINT HERE, I THINK HOW YOU SEND OUT
2:44:51PM INFORMATION IS VERY EFFECTIVE.
2:44:52PM PEOPLE GET IT.
2:44:53PM SOCIAL MEDIA IS VERY POWERFUL.
2:44:55PM I LIKE TO SHARE AS MUCH AS I CAN WITH PEOPLE, WHETHER IT'S
2:44:59PM HELPFUL, WHETHER PEOPLE SEE IT OR NOT.
2:45:00PM BUT EMERGENCY NUMBERS, WHAT TO DO, SANDBAG LOCATIONS, ON AND
2:45:04PM ON AND ON.
2:45:06PM I THINK IT'S A GREAT SYSTEM, HOWEVER WE CAN IMPROVE IN AREAS
2:45:11PM THAT WE NEED TO.
2:45:12PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON MENTIONED THE GRIDLOCK, WHEN PEOPLE
2:45:17PM HAVE TO EVACUATE, SOUTH TAMPA IS NOT SUPER MANAGEABLE TO GET
2:45:22PM OUT.
2:45:22PM YES, WE HAVE DALE MABRY.
2:45:23PM WE HAVE GANDY AND WHATNOT.
2:45:26PM WHEN YOU HAVE MASS PANIC, ESSENTIALLY, EVERYTHING COMES TO A
2:45:30PM STAND-STILL.
2:45:31PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING, SIR.
2:45:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:45:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE INFORMATION IS GOOD, BUT COUNCILMAN
2:45:37PM CARLSON TOUCHED ON IT.
2:45:38PM THERE IS A MISSING PIECE.
2:45:40PM THIS COUNCIL IS A PART OF THIS GOVERNMENT, AND WE'RE LEFT
2:45:46PM OUT OF THE PROCESS.
2:45:48PM YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION, WHEN THEY HAVE AN
2:45:50PM EMERGENCY OVER THERE, EVERY COMMISSIONER IS NOTIFIED
2:45:53PM PERSONALLY OF WHAT'S GOING ON ALL THE TIME.
2:45:55PM WE AREN'T.
2:45:56PM WE'RE NOT NOTIFIED.
2:45:58PM I FOUND OUT ABOUT BAYSHORE SOUTH TAMPA POWER MAY BE CUT OFF.
2:46:05PM PEOPLE WERE CALLING.
2:46:06PM I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
2:46:07PM SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS NEED TO KNOW IF THE CITY
2:46:10PM IS GOING TO GO BLACK.
2:46:13PM LIKE MR. CARLSON SAYS, IF SOMETHING DOES HAPPEN, HOW DOES
2:46:18PM THIS COUNCIL COMMUNICATE OR HOW ARE WE NOTIFIED?
2:46:21PM THAT'S NICE THAT JOHN GIVES US A TEXT, BUT I THINK THERE HAS
2:46:25PM TO BE ANOTHER PROCESS IN PLACE FOR THIS GOVERNMENT BECAUSE
2:46:28PM THERE IS TWO SETS OF GOVERNMENT HERE AND WE NEED TO BE
2:46:30PM NOTIFIED OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN REAL TIME, NOT AFTER THE ACT
2:46:34PM OR SOMETIMES IN BETWEEN.
2:46:38PM I THOUGHT AT ONE POINT WE HAD ASKED FOR A POSSIBLE TOUR OF
2:46:42PM THE EOC BUILDING BECAUSE SOME OF US HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE
2:46:44PM BUILDING OR HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE TOUR YET.
2:46:52PM >> IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING FROM THE
2:46:55PM ATTORNEY TELLING ME THAT -- I DON'T KNOW THE LAWS BEHIND
2:47:00PM INVITING YOU ALL OVER.
2:47:01PM LIKE I SAY, I'LL SEND HIM AN E-MAIL AND WE CAN SCHEDULE
2:47:04PM SOMETHING FOR YOU ALL TO GO OVER TO THE EOC.
2:47:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THAT'S FINE.
2:47:09PM THERE'S SUNSHINE.
2:47:10PM WE'VE GONE PLACES WHERE THERE IS A CAMERA OR PEOPLE TAKE
2:47:13PM NOTES, WHAT HAVE YOU.
2:47:14PM THINGS CAN BE ACCOMMODATED.
2:47:16PM MR. SHELBY MAKES SURE WE FOLLOW THE RULES.
2:47:20PM I THINK THESE THINGS THAT THIS COUNCIL, MAYBE FUTURE
2:47:24PM COUNCILS COMING ABOARD SHOULD KNOW AND BE AWARE OF.
2:47:29PM I THINK WE HAVE TO FILL IN A GAP AND THERE IS A MISSING GAP.
2:47:33PM THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL TAKE OF BEING HERE, WORKING THE
2:47:36PM CITY, UNDERSTANDING IT.
2:47:37PM WE HAVE A HIERARCHY HERE, BUT THERE ARE TWO HIERARCHIES HERE
2:47:41PM AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS INFORMED.
2:47:43PM I FEEL LEFT OUT WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO CALL ME AND WE'RE IN
2:47:46PM SITUATIONS, EVEN WITH SOME OF THE MURDERS AND THINGS, I'VE
2:47:50PM ASKED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MAKE SURE YOU CALL ME, I NEED
2:47:52PM TO KNOW BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE CALLING ME.
2:47:54PM I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT TO HEAR ON THE NEWS, I SHOULD BE
2:47:57PM NOTIFIED.
2:47:58PM THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN YOUR DISTRICT IN THE CITY SO I'M
2:48:01PM ABREAST OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
2:48:02PM I WOULD HOPE IN THE FUTURE THAT WE COULD FIND ANOTHER PLAN
2:48:04PM OR PROTOCOL AND MAKE SURE THIS COUNCIL IS ALERTED.
2:48:08PM FIRE DEPARTMENT GREAT JOB, GREAT JOB WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
2:48:12PM ONE SMALL MISSING PIECE THAT THIS COUNCIL'S LEGISLATIVE
2:48:14PM BRANCH IS LEFT OUT OF THE PROCESS.
2:48:16PM THANK YOU.
2:48:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:48:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO AGREE, AND THANK YOU FOR THE
2:48:24PM UPDATES YOU DO GIVE.
2:48:26PM SAME THING DURING HURRICANE IAN.
2:48:28PM EVERYTHING I SAW WAS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
2:48:31PM OBVIOUSLY, WE GOT THOSE REPORTS A COUPLE OF TIMES A DAY.
2:48:35PM OTHERWISE, I WAS JUST FORWARDING SHARING WHAT I SAW WHICH IS
2:48:38PM HELPFUL, BUT, AGAIN, LIKE COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, I ALSO
2:48:44PM SAW ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT ST. PETE WAS TALKING ABOUT
2:48:48PM EVACUATION.
2:48:49PM LIKE THEY JUST SEEMED TO HAVE INFORMATION WAY BEFORE WE DID,
2:48:52PM EVEN THE COUNTY WOULD PUT STUFF OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WE
2:48:55PM HADN'T SEEN YET.
2:48:56PM AGAIN, IF I'M JUST A NORMAL CITIZEN, SURE, IT'S NICE.
2:49:01PM BUT WE ARE LITERALLY A LARGE PART OF THIS GOVERNMENT AND WE
2:49:06PM DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
2:49:09PM I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE FINDING OUT ABOUT THAT, ABOUT
2:49:11PM THINGS THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO OR CONSIDERING DOING.
2:49:15PM I DO THINK, I AGREE THAT WE NEED A PROTOCOL TO KEEP US
2:49:21PM SOMEHOW INFORMED AHEAD OF TIME BECAUSE WE DID.
2:49:23PM A LOT OF PHONE CALLS, A LOT OF NEIGHBORS.
2:49:26PM EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW WHAT TO DO AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO
2:49:30PM TELL THEM.
2:49:31PM IT WAS.
2:49:32PM CHIEF BENNETT KEPT US INFORMED BUT WE'RE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO
2:49:40PM HAVE A CHIEF BENNETT.
2:49:42PM WE CAN'T PROMISE THAT THE NEXT CHIEF OF STAFF IS GOING TO BE
2:49:45PM AS COMMUNICATIVE.
2:49:46PM WE NEED A PROTOCOL THAT IS GOING TO BE FOLLOWED EVERY SINGLE
2:49:49PM TIME.
2:49:50PM AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO AND I'VE SIGNED UP AND
2:49:56PM I LOVE IT, BUT I FEEL LIKE FOR US WE NEED ANOTHER LEVEL.
2:50:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:50:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT CAN I SAY THAT HASN'T BEEN SAID?
2:50:08PM NOTHING.
2:50:08PM I AGREE.
2:50:09PM BUT THERE'S NOTHING I CAN ADD.
2:50:11PM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
2:50:13PM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
2:50:15PM APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
2:50:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:50:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST VERY BRIEFLY, AND WE THANK YOU FOR ALL
2:50:23PM YOUR WORK, ESPECIALLY DURING THE HURRICANE.
2:50:26PM I REMEMBER THE FUNNY VIDEO THAT WENT A LITTLE BIT VIRAL OF
2:50:29PM MAYOR CASTOR GETTING THE CALL FROM PRESIDENT BIDEN AND YOU
2:50:32PM WERE KIND OF IN THE BACKGROUND.
2:50:34PM KIND OF FUNNY IF YOU REMEMBER THAT, I ASSUME.
2:50:36PM DO YOU REMEMBER THAT, CHIEF?
2:50:39PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: NO.
2:50:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEN DISREGARD.
2:50:49PM I THOUGHT IT WAS HILARIOUS.
2:50:50PM I WOULD SAY THAT AGAIN WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF JOHN
2:50:54PM BENNETT THAT SOMETHING JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE FORMAL FOR THE
2:50:57PM INFORMATION TO COME I THINK IS CERTAINLY WARRANTED AND
2:51:01PM WHATNOT.
2:51:02PM ONE THING THAT'S FUNNY.
2:51:03PM I E-MAILED MY AIDE RIGHT NOW TO GET TOGETHER WITH HER
2:51:07PM FRIENDS AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY, NOTHING THAT YOU ALL HAVE TO
2:51:10PM DEAL WITH.
2:51:11PM I SEE OVER HERE FOR THE REGISTRATION AND VACCINATION FOR PET
2:51:14PM FRIENDLY SHELTERS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE AS YOU ALL KNOW WILL
2:51:17PM NOT LEAVE THEIR HOMES WITHOUT THEIR PETS.
2:51:19PM THOSE ARE FAMILY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE
2:51:21PM REQUIREMENTS.
2:51:22PM GETTING THAT INFORMATION OUT, THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
2:51:24PM CLOSE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE'S HEARTS.
2:51:27PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE NICE NEW DOG
2:51:29PM YOU ARE FOSTERING?
2:51:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HER NAME IS JELLY.
2:51:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS SO SWEET.
2:51:34PM SO, YES.
2:51:36PM A BIG ISSUE THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF AWARENESS.
2:51:39PM THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK DURING LAST YEAR.
2:51:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO ADD, BESIDES NATURAL DISASTERS,
2:51:50PM THERE ARE ALSO EMERGENCY RESPONSES WITH FIRE RESCUE VEHICLES
2:51:54PM AND POLICE.
2:51:55PM AND I'M ON ALL THE E-MAILS NOW WHERE I'M GETTING ALERTS ON
2:51:58PM ALL THAT, SO THAT'S VERY HELPFUL.
2:52:00PM SOMEHOW I THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES, UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S A
2:52:06PM LOT OF MURDER AND OTHER CASES GOING ON IN HIS AREA, BUT
2:52:11PM SOMEHOW HE'S FINDING OUT ABOUT THOSE AND HE'S ABLE TO
2:52:15PM RESPOND, MAYBE BECAUSE OF HIS POLICE BACKGROUND.
2:52:18PM BUT IF SOMETHING, SOME TERRIBLE CRIMINAL OR FIRE THING
2:52:22PM HAPPENED IN MY DISTRICT, I WOULD WANT TO KNOW ABOUT IT RIGHT
2:52:25PM AWAY.
2:52:26PM SOMETIMES LIKE COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, SOMETIMES CHIEF
2:52:29PM BENNETT IF HE'S AVAILABLE ALERT US BUT NICE TO HAVE A FORMAL
2:52:32PM PROCESS.
2:52:33PM THE LAST EXAMPLE I'LL GIVE, DURING THE BLM PROTEST, TWO OR
2:52:38PM THREE TIMES WE HAD A THOUSAND PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH HYDE
2:52:40PM PARK.
2:52:42PM [ENCODER DROP] -- SHOULD PEOPLE DRIVE OR NOT DRIVE.
2:53:08PM I FOUND OUT LATER THAT POLICE HAVE PRETTY GOOD INTEL ON
2:53:13PM WHAT'S HAPPENING.
2:53:13PM ALL OF MY INTEL IS BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO BE ON SOME OF THE
2:53:17PM BLOGS WHERE PEOPLE I KNEW WERE TALKING ABOUT THEM.
2:53:19PM AND I DIDN'T HAVE ANY UPDATED INFORMATION I COULD GIVE THE
2:53:23PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
2:53:23PM THEY WERE VERY, VERY FRUSTRATED BECAUSE PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW
2:53:26PM WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
2:53:27PM I KNOW THAT IS AN UNPRECEDENTED THING, BUT WHO KNOWS HOW
2:53:31PM SOON SOMETHING LIKE THAT WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.
2:53:33PM WE JUST NEED A PROTOCOL TO COMMUNICATE IN EXTRAORDINARY
2:53:37PM TIMES AND CITY COUNCIL HAS TO HAVE A SPECIAL TYPE OF
2:53:41PM COMMUNICATION BY DISTRICT OR FOR ALL OF US.
2:53:43PM AND THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE EVEN BETTER TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE
2:53:46PM TO COMMUNICATE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS.
2:53:47PM THANK YOU.
2:53:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
2:53:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DO WE NEED A MOTION TO MAKE SURE WE PUT
2:53:55PM THIS IN PLACE OR BRING IT BACK TO GET SOME KIND OF PROTOCOL?
2:53:59PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE WANT TO
2:54:01PM CLARIFY.
2:54:01PM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A LOT OF NATURAL DISASTERS, WE'RE
2:54:04PM TALKING ABOUT THE STUFF WE HAVE.
2:54:05PM A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT WE DON'T
2:54:07PM HAVE ACCESS TO THAT AS WELL.
2:54:09PM SO WE DON'T KNOW SOME THINGS.
2:54:10PM A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN'T ACTIVATE BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN CERTAIN
2:54:14PM JURISDICTIONS THAT -- WE CAN'T EVACUATE SOMETHING IF THE
2:54:18PM COUNTY OR STATE DOESN'T DO THEIR PART.
2:54:20PM SO WHEN WE GET THAT INFORMATION, WE PUT IT OUT AS SOON AS WE
2:54:23PM CAN.
2:54:23PM NOW, AS FAR AS COVERAGE, WHENEVER THERE IS LIKE THE STORM
2:54:27PM THAT CAME IN WITH IAN, NOT SAYING THAT -- PART OF THE CITY,
2:54:33PM BUT WE HAD SHELTERS FOR FAMILY MEMBERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
2:54:36PM NOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THEN, OF
2:54:38PM COURSE, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT TO HAVE YOU ALL GO TO A
2:54:41PM CERTAIN PLACE.
2:54:42PM BUT WE PUT THAT INFORMATION OUT TO WHERE THE CITY SHELTERS
2:54:47PM ARE KIND OF DIFFERENT THAN JUST REGULAR SHELTERS.
2:54:50PM AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE PET FRIENDLY SHELTERS AS WELL.
2:54:53PM SO A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION WE DO PUT IT OUT.
2:54:56PM IF WE DON'T PUT IT OUT, WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
2:54:58PM I'M BEING HONEST WITH YOU.
2:55:00PM WE TALK ABOUT A LOT OF INCIDENTS THAT HAPPEN IN THE
2:55:02PM NEIGHBORHOODS, WHEN IT COMES TO, THAT'S KIND OF LIKE NOT IN
2:55:05PM OUR AREA AS FAR AS WHEN I USE THE WORD VIOLENT CRIMES AND
2:55:11PM STUFF.
2:55:12PM WE'RE MORE OR LESS WITH THE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS.
2:55:15PM PREPARING FOR NATURAL DISASTERS THAT WE CAN HAVE THE
2:55:21PM KNOWLEDGE ON AND ELABORATE MORE ON HOW THE COUNTY INTERVENES
2:55:24PM WHEN IT COMES TO THE STATE, THE COUNTY AND THEN DOWN TO THE
2:55:29PM LOCAL.
2:55:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, CHIEF.
2:55:31PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS CITY OFFICIALS, WE UNDERSTAND THAT
2:55:34PM THE COUNTY MAY HAVE THINGS GOING.
2:55:37PM WE'RE ASKING THAT WHEN YOU GET THE INFORMATION, WE SHOULD BE
2:55:40PM NOTIFIED VERSUS BEFORE THE PUBLIC GETS IT, WE SHOULD KNOW.
2:55:45PM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
2:55:47PM WE WANT THAT INFORMATION BEFORE YOU PUT IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC
2:55:49PM OR WE HAVE TO HEAR ST. PETE IS DOING SOMETHING.
2:55:52PM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
2:55:53PM THAT'S WHERE THE DISCONNECT IS.
2:55:55PM WHEN YOU HEAR IT, YOU NOTIFY THE MAYOR.
2:55:57PM WE'RE SAYING THIS COUNCIL SHOULD BE NOTIFIED BEFORE IT GOES
2:56:00PM OUT TO THE MEDIA WHAT'S GOING ON SO WE HAVE AN IDEA FOR WHEN
2:56:05PM IT DOES HAPPEN, WE GET THE CALLS, WE'RE ABLE TO TELL OUR
2:56:08PM CONSTITUENTS.
2:56:09PM THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
2:56:10PM WE HAVE THE DISCONNECT WITH CONSTITUENTS WHEN EMERGENCY
2:56:12PM SITUATIONS GOING ON.
2:56:13PM WHEN I HAVE A MAJOR FIRE HAPPENING OVER HERE TWO YEARS AGO,
2:56:17PM I KNEW ABOUT IT IN THE MORNING AND PEOPLE ARE CALLING ME, I
2:56:19PM HAVE A MAJOR FIRE OVER HERE I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
2:56:22PM THINGS LIKE THAT A DISTRICT PERSON NEEDS TO KNOW, THAT JUST
2:56:25PM HAPPENED IN MY DISTRICT.
2:56:26PM I'VE BEEN TELLING THE CHIEF THE SAME THING.
2:56:34PM I DON'T GET A CALL FROM ANYBODY UNTIL THE NEXT DAY.
2:56:38PM CALVIN JOHNSON DOING A GREAT JOB.
2:56:40PM OR NEIGHBORS KNOCKING ON MY DOOR, WE HAVE A BIG FIGHT OR
2:56:44PM FIRE OVER HERE.
2:56:45PM THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
2:56:49PM THE MEDIA ALERT IS FINE, WAY TO PACIFY, BUT THAT DOESN'T
2:56:52PM REALLY DO US ANY GOOD.
2:56:54PM TELL US WE HAD A MAJOR INCIDENT IN YOUR DISTRICT.
2:56:57PM WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
2:56:59PM DON'T HAVE TO GO INTO THE INVESTIGATION.
2:57:02PM JUST IN GENERAL, POLICE AND FIRE.
2:57:05PM NO ONE CARES ABOUT -- IS IT SAFE?
2:57:08PM WHAT HAPPENED SO WE CAN TELL CONSTITUENTS, OUR POLICE
2:57:10PM DEPARTMENT OR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS HAVING A SITUATION.
2:57:12PM EVERYTHING IS FINE.
2:57:13PM THERE WAS AN INCIDENT BUT THEY ARE HANDLING IT.
2:57:16PM WE NEED TO KNOW THAT'S HAPPENING.
2:57:18PM WE DON'T KNOW AND WE GET QUESTIONED, HOW COME YOU AS A
2:57:21PM COUNCIL MEMBER DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR DISTRICT.
2:57:23PM THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH.
2:57:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:57:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST REAL FAST, MY QUESTION ABOUT WHERE AM I
2:57:32PM SUPPOSED TO GO FOR MY DISTRICT IS EVACUATED IS NOT ME
2:57:36PM REQUESTING ROOM AT A SHELTER.
2:57:38PM I CAN FIND A PLACE TO GO.
2:57:39PM THE QUESTION IS, WHAT'S THE ROLE OF CITY COUNCIL DURING THAT
2:57:43PM TIME?
2:57:44PM WHAT IT FELT LIKE IS THE MAYOR HAS SPECIAL POWERS, SO YOU
2:57:47PM GUYS ARE IRRELEVANT.
2:57:51PM WORST CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS TO A MAYOR, HOW DOES CITY
2:57:56PM COUNCIL CONTINUE THE GOVERNMENT?
2:57:58PM WE'VE GOT -- I THINK CITY COUNCIL HAS TO FOR THE CONTINUITY
2:58:04PM OF GOVERNMENT, CITY COUNCIL HAS TO BE ENGAGED.
2:58:07PM BUT ALSO WE NEED TO BE ENGAGED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
2:58:09PM COMMUNICATE WITH CONSTITUENTS.
2:58:11PM CONSTITUENTS DON'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MAYOR AND CITY
2:58:13PM COUNCIL.
2:58:14PM THEY THINK WE SHOULD ALL KNOW EVERYTHING.
2:58:16PM THEY ARE UPSET WITH ALL OF US IF WE ALL DON'T HAVE ALL THE
2:58:19PM INFORMATION.
2:58:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT.
2:58:24PM I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
2:58:26PM IS THE EOC GOING TO BE MOVING OUT TO HANNA STREET?
2:58:31PM >> WE DID HEAR THAT JUST BEFORE.
2:58:32PM I KNOW IT HAS GONE BACK AND FORTH.
2:58:34PM THAT ORIGINALLY WAS THE PLAN TO GO THERE, BUT I DID HEAR IT
2:58:38PM WAS PULLED OUT OF THAT PROJECT.
2:58:40PM I JUST HEARD EARLIER IT'S BACK IN SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
2:58:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT IF SOME
2:58:47PM EMERGENCY HAPPENS AND CITY COUNCIL HAS TO SHUT DOWN HERE, IT
2:58:51PM IS ALSO GOING TO HANNA STREET SO WE CAN HAVE LIVE BROADCASTS
2:58:55PM AND CITY GOVERNMENT CAN CARRY ON.
2:58:59PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S CONCERNS ARE VALID.
2:59:01PM WE AS CITY COUNCIL NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITHOUT A
2:59:06PM DOUBT.
2:59:07PM THERE'S ONLY ONE CATCH TO THAT, THAT IT SHOULD BE ONE VOICE,
2:59:13PM WHETHER IT COMES FROM US OR WHOMEVER BECAUSE IF ONE COUNCIL
2:59:18PM PERSON BLASTS OUT SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ANOTHER
2:59:23PM PERSON BLASTS OUT SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ONE NUMBER
2:59:27PM IS OFF, ONE LETTER IS OFF, IT COULD BE MISCONSTRUED TEN
2:59:32PM DIFFERENT WAYS.
2:59:35PM I THINK WHAT CITY COUNCIL IS ASKING, HOPEFULLY WHAT CITY
2:59:37PM COUNCIL IS ASKING IS FOR YOU TO GIVE US THE INFORMATION AS
2:59:40PM SOON AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN.
2:59:43PM I'LL GO TO CHIEF BENNETT BECAUSE HE'S RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF
2:59:46PM US.
2:59:47PM CHIEF?
2:59:48PM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
2:59:51PM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
2:59:52PM I APPRECIATE THE DIALOGUE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE
2:59:55PM OUR PERFORMANCE IN THIS SPACE.
2:59:58PM AS EVERYBODY WAS TALKING, I WENT THROUGH THE RECENTLY
3:00:00PM PROMULGATED 2022 COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN ON
3:00:06PM THE iNET AND SPECIAL SECTION 4.2, KEY LEADERSHIP
3:00:10PM RESPONSIBILITIES, AND THERE IS A SECTION IN THERE FOR CITY
3:00:13PM COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE STAFF EMERGENCY SUPPORT FUNCTIONS FOR
3:00:17PM COMMUNICATIONS.
3:00:17PM I HEARD A DISCUSSION ABOUT POTENTIAL MOTION, BUT MY QUESTION
3:00:23PM TO CHIEF TRIPP AND JOHN A. WOULD BE, WOULD IT BE FAIR FOR
3:00:27PM COUNCIL TO REVIEW THOSE TWO SECTIONS AND THEN PRIOR TO THE
3:00:30PM UPCOMING SEASON, OR WITHIN A RECENT AMOUNT OF TIME, WORK
3:00:35PM WITH COUNCIL AND THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE LEARNED OVER THE
3:00:37PM LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND SEE IF WE CAN INCREASE THOSE
3:00:41PM SECTIONS OF THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN.
3:00:44PM IS THAT FAIR?
3:00:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL?
3:00:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: CHIEF BENNETT, I THINK THAT YOU ALL HAVE
3:00:52PM HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM US TODAY.
3:00:55PM MAYBE IF COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES OR SOMEONE IS MAKING A MOTION,
3:00:58PM MAYBE WE COULD HAVE YOU ALL COME BACK A MONTH FROM NOW AND
3:01:01PM WE WILL HAVE READ THAT AGAIN AND YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE SOME
3:01:05PM UPDATES.
3:01:05PM CHIEF BENNETT, YOU MAY WANT TO PRESENT OR BRING THE POLICE
3:01:08PM OR SOMETHING BECAUSE THIS HITS MORE THAN JUST CHIEF TRIPP'S
3:01:12PM AREA.
3:01:13PM THANK YOU.
3:01:13PM >>JOHN BENNETT: YEAH, I AGREE.
3:01:14PM THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS IN COMING FROM A
3:01:19PM 25-MEMBER GOVERNMENT WITH PROBABLY THE LARGEST EMERGENCY
3:01:22PM MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITY OVER THE BRIDGE AND THEN COMING
3:01:25PM HERE TO ESSENTIALLY A SMALLER SET OF JURISDICTIONS BUT
3:01:31PM OBVIOUSLY MORE PEOPLE, TYPICALLY THE MAYORS OF THE CITIES
3:01:36PM INSIDE THE COUNTY ARE IN WHAT'S CALLED THE EXECUTIVE POLICY
3:01:39PM GROUP, AND THEY ARE INVOLVED IN THE DECISION MAKING.
3:01:42PM DURING THE COVID PERIOD AND LEGAL CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M
3:01:46PM WRONG, THEY REMOVED THE MAYOR OUT OF THAT PROCESS.
3:01:49PM SO WE ARE ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT DOWNSTREAM OF THE WORKING
3:01:53PM SIDE OF THAT EQUATION, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IN A BIG CITY
3:01:57PM IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WORK TO BRIDGE THAT COMMUNICATION TO
3:02:01PM GET IT A LITTLE BIT QUICKER.
3:02:03PM BUT, YES, I UNDERSTAND.
3:02:04PM REALLY, I WAS DIRECTING IT TO JOHN TO SEE IF THESE ARE TWO
3:02:08PM SECTIONS WE CAN WORK ON IN THE CEOP.
3:02:14PM >> CHIEF, WE'RE ACTUALLY UP FOR OUR THREE-YEAR BIG UPDATE OF
3:02:16PM THIS DOCUMENT.
3:02:16PM EVERY YEAR WE TOUCH IT AND UPDATE OUR MAPS.
3:02:19PM THIS IS OUR THREE-YEAR CYCLE.
3:02:21PM DEFINITELY WE'LL LOOK TO DO A BIG REHASH AND UPDATE THE
3:02:24PM SECTIONS AND GET THEM OUT TO YOU.
3:02:26PM IF WE NEED TO INCORPORATE NEW LANGUAGE IN THE PROCEDURES OF
3:02:28PM CITY COUNCIL'S ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, THIS IS A PERFECT
3:02:30PM PERIOD BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS.
3:02:33PM >>JOHN BENNETT: OKAY.
3:02:33PM TO COUNCIL, WE CAN LOOK AT ALL HAZARDS DAY-TO-DAY THINGS
3:02:37PM THAT HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT AND, OF COURSE, THE LOW
3:02:40PM PROBABILITY, HIGH CONSEQUENCE EVENTS THAT HAVE BEEN
3:02:43PM DISCUSSED AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE ALL THREADED IN THERE FOR
3:02:46PM NEAR REAL-TIME UPDATES.
3:02:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:02:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE.
3:02:51PM THANK YOU, CHIEF BENNETT, FOR COMING IN AND SAYING THAT.
3:02:56PM I WOULD LOVE TO TAKE A LOOK AND READ THOSE, BUT I WOULD
3:02:59PM REALLY LOVE FOR WHEN YOU COME BACK, TO COME WITH SOME
3:03:02PM RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN WORK FROM.
3:03:05PM AS YOU ARE THE EMERGENCY PROFESSIONALS, YOU'RE HEARING WHAT
3:03:11PM WE'RE LOOKING FOR BUT I WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN ASKING
3:03:15PM FOR THAT IN THE PROPER WAY OR WRITING INTO THE PLAN IN A
3:03:18PM PROPER WAY.
3:03:18PM POSSIBLY MAYBE SOME SUGGESTIONS.
3:03:21PM I WOULD ALSO ASK OF THAT FROM CHIEF OF STAFF FOR WHEN YOU
3:03:25PM COME BACK, WE CAN BRING OUR THOUGHTS, BUT YOU ALL ARE THE
3:03:28PM ONES THAT WRITE THIS DOCUMENT, SO PROBABLY YOU HAVE THE
3:03:33PM OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT ARE SIMILAR,
3:03:36PM WHAT KINDS OF THINGS CAN WE DO TO JUST SOLIDIFY OUR ROLE?
3:03:42PM SO THANK YOU.
3:03:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
3:03:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, IF YOU CAN, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF
3:03:47PM THE CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT -- IF THEY WANT TO LOOK AT
3:03:51PM THAT SECTION THAT WAS REFERENCED OR THE PLAN ITSELF, HOW
3:03:54PM DOES ONE GET TO IT ON THE iNET?
3:03:56PM >> IF YOU GO TO iNET, GO UNDER EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AS ONE
3:04:00PM OF THE TABS.
3:04:00PM UNDER THERE, THERE WILL BE PLANS.
3:04:02PM THE PLAN IS LOCATED RIGHT THERE.
3:04:04PM CALLED THE COMPREHENSIVE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN.
3:04:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
3:04:07PM EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
3:04:08PM IF THEY PUT THAT IN THE SEARCH TERM --
3:04:11PM >> IF YOU LOOK FOR DEPARTMENTS, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS A
3:04:13PM STAND-ALONE THAT YOU CAN CLICK.
3:04:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:04:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:04:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL WRITE THAT DOWN, BUT ANY WAY THAT CAN
3:04:22PM BE SENT TO US?
3:04:23PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I'LL SEND A LINK.
3:04:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S ALWAYS A MUCH BETTER REMINDER.
3:04:27PM THANK YOU, CHIEF BENNETT.
3:04:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL?
3:04:32PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISH TO SPEAK TO
3:04:37PM THIS?
3:04:37PM COME UP TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE, MS. POYNOR.
3:04:45PM >> I'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A MINUTE.
3:04:48PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
3:04:50PM FIRST OF ALL, AS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES ON THAT PENINSULA THAT
3:04:54PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS TALKING ABOUT, MY HOUSE, THE CORNER
3:04:58PM OF MY LOT IS 13.42 FEET.
3:05:02PM I'M ONE OF THE HIGHEST LOCATIONS IN SOUTH TAMPA BECAUSE MY
3:05:07PM NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT UP AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
3:05:10PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS BEEN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
3:05:15PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS BEEN ON A TOUR OF SOG WITH ME.
3:05:19PM I WOULD INVITE ALL OF YOU TO COME DO A TOUR.
3:05:22PM IT'S VERY CONCERNING BECAUSE IF IAN HAD HIT HERE, I DIDN'T
3:05:27PM BOARD ANYTHING UP BECAUSE IF IT HIT HERE, BOARDING UP IS
3:05:30PM GOING TO DO NOTHING FOR US BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE INUNDATED
3:05:36PM WITH WATER.
3:05:37PM WATER WILL BE MY PROBLEM, NOT THE WIND.
3:05:39PM BOTTOM LINE IS THE MORE PEOPLE WHO CAN PUSH SOMETHING OUT
3:05:44PM FROM THE CITY, WHY WOULDN'T -- I MEAN, THIS IS KIND OF A
3:05:48PM NO-BRAINER.
3:05:49PM IF A TEXT GOES TO THE MAYOR, IT SHOULD GO TO EACH ONE OF YOU
3:05:53PM AS WELL.
3:05:53PM AND HERE IS THE PRIMARY REASON WHY.
3:05:55PM BECAUSE SIX OF THE SEVEN OF YOU I HAVE TALKED TO ON THE
3:05:59PM PHONE.
3:05:59PM SIX OF THE SEVEN OF YOU I TEXT ON THE PHONE FOR ONE REASON
3:06:04PM OR ANOTHER.
3:06:04PM AT ONE POINT IN TIME OR ANOTHER.
3:06:06PM AND I KNOW THAT IF I SEND YOU A TEXT, YOU'LL RESPOND TO ME.
3:06:11PM I HAVE THE MAYOR'S NUMBER, TOO, BUT I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER
3:06:14PM SENT HER A TEXT BECAUSE I DON'T GET RESPONSES FROM HER
3:06:17PM E-MAILS.
3:06:17PM I JUST NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
3:06:21PM I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DRIVES
3:06:24PM ME BONKERS, I HAVE BEEN TO THE EOC AS PART OF MAYOR'S
3:06:30PM NEIGHBORHOOD UNIVERSITY.
3:06:30PM HOW MANY OF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN THROUGH MAYOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD
3:06:33PM UNIVERSITY?
3:06:33PM OKAY.
3:06:34PM AND DID YOU SEE ANYBODY FROM CITY COUNCIL?
3:06:36PM NO, YOU DIDN'T.
3:06:38PM EVERYBODY NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR JOBS ARE AND HOW YOU
3:06:45PM SUPPORT OUR GOVERNMENT.
3:06:46PM AND WHEN WE WENT THROUGH MAYOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD UNIVERSITY, I
3:06:49PM ASKED EVERY SINGLE SESSION, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET TO SEE
3:06:52PM CITY COUNCIL?
3:06:53PM BECAUSE THERE WERE FOLKS IN THERE WHO HAVE NEVER INTERACTED
3:06:56PM WITH YOU GUYS.
3:06:57PM I THINK THIS IS KIND OF PAR FOR THE COURSE.
3:07:01PM THIS NEWSLETTER CAME OUT AND SOMEBODY ASKED ME THIS MORNING,
3:07:05PM WHY DON'T WE HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE RUNNING FOR MULTIPLE
3:07:08PM RACES?
3:07:09PM AND THIS IS A PROBLEM.
3:07:11PM THIS IS A NEWSLETTER FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
3:07:14PM THIS IS A NEWSLETTER FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
3:07:16PM IT DOESN'T SAY THE CITY OF TAMPA AT THE TOP -- DOES IT SAY
3:07:20PM THE CITY OF TAMPA AT THE TOP?
3:07:21PM NO, IT DOESN'T.
3:07:22PM I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE PROPAGANDA THAT GOES OUT.
3:07:25PM EVERY SINGLE CITY OF TAMPA POST THAT IS POSTED ON Facebook
3:07:29PM MENTIONS THE MAYOR BY NAME AND TAGS HER.
3:07:31PM I HAVE SEEN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU IN THOSE POSTS AND
3:07:35PM YOU'VE NEVER BEEN TAGGED.
3:07:37PM WHY NOT?
3:07:38PM EVERYBODY SITTING UP THERE WORKS THEIR BUTT OFF FOR THIS
3:07:43PM CITY.
3:07:44PM WHY IS IT THE JANE CASTOR SHOW?
3:07:47PM SORRY, NOT SORRY.
3:07:48PM AND THEN HER GIRLFRIEND, WIFE, WHATEVER, SIGNIFICANT OTHER,
3:07:51PM IS SPOTLIGHTED IN THESE IN ADDITION TO HER.
3:07:55PM BUT I DON'T SEE ANY OF YOUR NAMES UP THERE, AND YOU GUYS ARE
3:07:58PM PROTECTING YOUR BUTT OFF AND YOU GUYS ARE STANDING IN THE
3:08:01PM SAME PLACE RIGHT NEXT TO HER.
3:08:04PM SHAME, SHAME, SHAME.
3:08:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. POYNOR, I THINK I HAVE A PICTURE OF YOU
3:08:10PM RECEIVING YOUR CERTIFICATE FROM MAYOR'S UNIVERSITY.
3:08:14PM >> PROBABLY.
3:08:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
3:08:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:08:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT.
3:08:21PM I'M GLAD YOU SAID IT, MS. POYNOR.
3:08:23PM MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES, I WOULD SAY 90% OF THE EMPLOYEES HERE
3:08:28PM DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO CITY COUNCIL IS.
3:08:30PM HAVE NO CLUE.
3:08:34PM YOU CAN WALK BY THEM AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
3:08:37PM THAT IS TRUE.
3:08:39PM I CAN REMEMBER, I WENT TO -- WHEN WE HAD THE SO-CALLED
3:08:43PM POSSIBLE RIOTS AT THE UNIVERSITY MALL, AND I GOT OUT OF MY
3:08:48PM CAR TO STOP THE VIOLENCE.
3:08:51PM I APPROACHED SOME OF THE OFFICERS HAD NO CLUE WHO I WAS.
3:08:55PM I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
3:09:00PM SOMEBODY SAID, NO, THAT'S YOUR CITY COUNCIL.
3:09:02PM YOU GO TO SOME OF THESE DEPARTMENTS, THEY HAVE NO CLUE WHO
3:09:05PM CITY COUNCIL IS.
3:09:07PM COULDN'T TELL YOU WHO WE ARE.
3:09:09PM THAT IS A SHAME.
3:09:12PM I ALWAYS SAID THAT EVERY EMPLOYEE, EVERY DEPARTMENT SHOULD
3:09:16PM KNOW THIS FORM OF GOVERNMENT, NOT JUST THE MAYOR, BUT WHO
3:09:20PM WRITES THE CHECKS BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, A LOT OF
3:09:23PM STUFF HAPPENS, WE STILL -- A LOT OF THE STUFF GOES ON OUT
3:09:28PM HERE.
3:09:28PM BUT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THE COUNCIL.
3:09:31PM IT WAS THE MAYOR'S UNIVERSITY, I ALWAYS SAID THAT TOO.
3:09:34PM THE MAYOR'S UNIVERSITY AND THEY ARE HIGHLIGHTING EVERY
3:09:37PM DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY, BUT THEY ARE EXCLUDING THE COUNCIL.
3:09:41PM THEY SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE COUNCIL'S FUNCTION IS AND WHAT WE
3:09:44PM DO.
3:09:44PM I THANK YOU FOR POINTING IT OUT.
3:09:47PM IT'S A VALID POINT.
3:09:49PM JUST LIKE THE MAYOR'S PICTURE IS HERE.
3:09:51PM COUNCIL MEMBERS' PICTURES SHOULD BE IN THE BUILDING AS WELL.
3:09:55PM THIS IS YOUR MAYOR, THIS IS YOUR COUNCIL, THIS IS YOUR CITY
3:09:57PM GOVERNMENT.
3:09:58PM THIS IS YOUR GOVERNMENT.
3:09:59PM THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
3:10:00PM IT'S A TRUE STATEMENT THAT GOES ON.
3:10:05PM NO ONE KNOWS YOUR CITY GOVERNMENT.
3:10:07PM THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
3:10:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:10:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL KEEP THIS SHORT AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT
3:10:12PM IT OFF-LINE, BUT JUST FOR ANYBODY WATCHING AND THIS IS MY
3:10:16PM PERSPECTIVE HAVING WATCHED AND EXPERIENCED IT, UNDER PAM
3:10:19PM IORIO AND SOME OF HER PREDECESSORS, THE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE
3:10:24PM VERY STRONG.
3:10:25PM UNDER THE PERSON WHO REPLACED HER, HE WAS AFRAID OF THE
3:10:29PM POWER OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND PUSHED BACK AGAINST THEM.
3:10:32PM SO A BUNCH OF US STARTED ORGANIZING, IN PARTICULAR
3:10:39PM GRASSROOTS ORGANIZING WITH NEIGHBORHOODS, AND AS THE
3:10:42PM NEIGHBORS WERE STARTING TO GET ORGANIZED AGAIN, WHAT WE
3:10:44PM OBSERVED AT THE TIME WAS THAT MAYOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD
3:10:46PM UNIVERSITY WAS SET UP TO KIND OF NEUTRALIZE THE GRASSROOTS
3:10:51PM MOVEMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND TO KIND OF PUSH
3:10:54PM PROPAGANDA.
3:10:54PM SO IT'S INTERESTING THAT A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS THINK
3:10:57PM IT'S SPECIAL TO GO THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD UNIVERSITY WHEN IT
3:11:00PM ACTUALLY WAS THE WAY TO TAKE POWER AWAY FROM NEIGHBORHOODS.
3:11:03PM AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S STILL LIKE, BUT I HOPE THAT IT'S
3:11:05PM BEEN REVAMPED OR HOPE IT CAN BE REVAMPED AND MAYBE THAN
3:11:09PM COULD HELP WITH IT.
3:11:10PM IT SHOULDN'T BE A PROPAGANDA MACHINE AND IT SHOULDN'T TRY TO
3:11:14PM TAKE ANY POWER WAY FROM WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE
3:11:17PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
3:11:18PM THE OTHER THING ON THE NEWSLETTERS, THIS MAYOR DOES THE SAME
3:11:21PM THING THAT THE LAST MAYOR DID WITH NEWSLETTERS.
3:11:24PM AS FAR AS I CAN SEE IN THAT IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE
3:11:28PM BOTTOM OF THE E-MAILS, SOME OF THE E-MAILS ARE OFFICIAL CITY
3:11:32PM E-MAILS AND SOME OF THEM LOOK LIKE CITY OFFICIAL E-MAILS BUT
3:11:34PM THEY ARE NOT.
3:11:35PM THEY ARE COMING FROM A CAMPAIGN ACCOUNT OR PC OR SOMETHING
3:11:38PM LIKE THAT.
3:11:38PM AND I DON'T KNOW WHO OPERATES THOSE.
3:11:41PM I WISH THERE WAS TRANSPARENCY AS TO WHETHER STAFF WERE BEING
3:11:44PM USED, WHO'S PAYING FOR THE E-MAIL ACCOUNTS AND EVERYTHING.
3:11:49PM BUT IT'S VERY CONFUSING TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY THINK
3:11:52PM THAT IT'S CITY AND I THINK ALL OF IT ISN'T.
3:11:57PM I UNDERSTAND WHY FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE WHY IT'S DONE, AND
3:11:59PM IT'S GREAT CONTENT AND WELL DONE, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME
3:12:04PM MORE CLARITY AND SEPARATION BETWEEN WHAT POTENTIALLY IS
3:12:08PM CAMPAIGN OR PERSONAL STUFF VERSUS CITY.
3:12:10PM THANK YOU.
3:12:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON AGENDA
3:12:17PM NUMBER 4?
3:12:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:12:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THEM TO COME
3:12:24PM BACK TO US?
3:12:26PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: MAY I SPEAK FOR JUST A MINUTE?
3:12:27PM I APOLOGIZE.
3:12:28PM I JUST WANT TO -- SINCE EVERYONE IS REHASHING WHAT HAPPENED
3:12:32PM IN SEPTEMBER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL KNOWS AFTER
3:12:39PM COVID, I BECAME SORT OF THE UNACKNOWLEDGED EMERGENCY DEPUTY
3:12:44PM CITY ATTORNEY AND THEN EVENTUALLY CITY ATTORNEY.
3:12:47PM I ALWAYS, ALWAYS MADE A POINT OF NOTIFYING COUNCIL OF
3:12:55PM EVERYTHING THAT WAS HAPPENING AS IT WAS HAPPENING.
3:12:58PM I WAS JUST REMINISCING ABOUT THE NIGHT THAT THE COUNTY
3:13:02PM DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY FOR IAN AND THEN THE MAYOR
3:13:06PM SUBSEQUENTLY DID, AND I WAS ON MY WAY TO A CONCERT AT AMALIE
3:13:11PM ARENA AND STOPPED HERE AND CAME UPSTAIRS TO SEND ALL OF YOU
3:13:15PM AND OTHERS AT THE CITY AN E-MAIL SO THAT YOU WERE HEARING IT
3:13:18PM THE SECOND IT HAPPENED.
3:13:20PM AND DURING IAN, JOHN BENNETT ASKED ME TO HELP HIM AND WE
3:13:24PM WERE CONSTANTLY TEXT MESSAGING COUNCIL MEMBERS.
3:13:28PM AND HAVING BEEN AT THE EOC AND SEEING HOW THINGS PLAYED OUT
3:13:33PM AND ALSO HAVING A BROTHER IN NAPLES THAT ULTIMATELY WAS
3:13:36PM IMPACTED BY THE HURRICANE, THINGS WERE CHANGING.
3:13:39PM THINGS WERE HAPPENING.
3:13:41PM THEY WERE TURNING ON A DIME.
3:13:43PM AND THE SECOND WE WERE HEARING THINGS, WE WERE PUSHING THE
3:13:47PM INFORMATION OUT, BUT SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO SEND IT
3:13:51PM TO EVERYONE AT THE SAME TIME.
3:13:52PM WE COULDN'T PRIORITIZE, SEND TO THIS ONE FIRST AND THAT ONE
3:13:56PM FIRST, AND AS I THINK HAS BEEN SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN,
3:14:00PM IT'S THE COUNTY THAT MAKES THE DECISION TO START AN
3:14:03PM EVACUATION.
3:14:03PM WE WOULD ALWAYS -- JOHN ALWAYS LET ME KNOW THE SECOND HE
3:14:08PM HEARD ANYTHING.
3:14:09PM I WOULD ALWAYS PUSH OUT AN E-MAIL TO ALL OF YOU AND TO OTHER
3:14:12PM DEPARTMENTS AND TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND TO THE CITY AND
3:14:15PM TO THE MAYOR.
3:14:15PM SO WE REALLY HAVE TRIED.
3:14:19PM I MEAN, DURING COVID, SAME THING.
3:14:20PM EVERY TIME THE GOVERNOR ISSUED AN ORDER, I WAS FRANTICALLY
3:14:24PM TRYING TO GET THAT INFORMATION OUT TO YOU AS SOON AS WE
3:14:27PM HEARD IT.
3:14:29PM I'M NOT WHINING.
3:14:32PM PERHAPS I AM.
3:14:33PM BUT I FEEL AS IF SOME OF THAT HASN'T BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED OR
3:14:36PM RECOGNIZED IN SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS.
3:14:39PM I APOLOGIZE.
3:14:40PM I JUST FELT THE NEED TO SAY THAT.
3:14:42PM THANK YOU.
3:14:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:14:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE WE DID GET THAT
3:14:47PM INFORMATION.
3:14:49PM I FELT WE HAD A LOT MORE INFORMATION OR RATHER WE WERE
3:14:53PM GETTING REGULAR UPDATES AHEAD OF TIME, BUT ONCE IAN HIT, OUR
3:14:59PM INFORMATION DRASTICALLY SLOWED, AND THAT'S WHEN EVERYONE
3:15:05PM STARTS TO ASK, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH ELECTRIC?
3:15:09PM WHEN CAN WE COME BACK?
3:15:10PM ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS AND THE FLOODING AND ALL OF THIS,
3:15:14PM THAT WE DIDN'T GET MUCH INFORMATION AFTER THAT AT ALL.
3:15:17PM SO THAT'S WHY I THINK THESE, REALLY GOING THROUGH THIS AGAIN
3:15:23PM JUST TO KIND OF IMPROVE IT SO THAT THE NEXT TIME IT HAPPENS
3:15:28PM BECAUSE THERE WILL BE A NEXT TIME, WE ARE PREPARED BETTER.
3:15:34PM WE ARE BETTER PREPARED AS COUNCIL MEMBERS AND AS FRONT LINES
3:15:37PM TO NEIGHBORS AND RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S JUST WHAT WE DO.
3:15:42PM SO DO WE NEED A MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK AT A PARTICULAR
3:15:46PM TIME AND DAY?
3:15:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
3:15:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.
3:15:49PM WHEN IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE -- I BELIEVE CHIEF BENNETT SAID
3:15:56PM A MONTH.
3:15:58PM OKAY.
3:16:01PM I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK MARCH 2nd WITH SOME
3:16:06PM RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNCIL IN ADDITION TO TALKING ABOUT
3:16:10PM SOME OF THE OTHER CHANGES THAT MIGHT BE COMING.
3:16:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:16:14PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:16:16PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:16:17PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:16:18PM MOTION PASSES.
3:16:19PM THANK YOU BOTH.
3:16:22PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5.
3:16:38PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I DON'T THINK I INTRODUCED MYSELF A MOMENT
3:16:40PM AGO DURING MY WHINE SESSION.
3:16:42PM ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
3:16:44PM HE RESUBMITTED TO COUNCIL THE MEMO I WROTE IN JULY OF 2022.
3:16:53PM THE MOTION REQUESTED THAT STAFF REPORT ON A PROPOSED
3:16:56PM ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE ADMINISTRATION TO PROVIDE
3:16:59PM COUNCIL WITH TEN-DAY NOTICE ON MATTERS PERTAINING TO CIVIL
3:17:02PM RIGHTS AND CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS AGAINST THE CITY OF
3:17:04PM TAMPA.
3:17:06PM AND AS I EXPLAINED IN THE MOTION -- I MEAN IN THE MEMO,
3:17:10PM THERE ARE INVESTIGATIONS AND THERE ARE INVESTIGATIONS.
3:17:14PM WHAT OBVIOUSLY TRIGGERED THIS MOTION WAS A PARTICULAR
3:17:19PM INCIDENT WHERE THE CITY WAS NOTIFIED THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF
3:17:21PM JUSTICE WAS INVESTIGATING THAT PARTICULAR TENANT, THE
3:17:34PM TENANTS ISSUE.
3:17:35PM I CAN'T REMEMBER NOW THE PROGRAM.
3:17:36PM THE CRIME-FREE PROGRAM. I APOLOGIZE.
3:17:38PM AND I BELIEVE THE CITY HEARD ABOUT IT JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS
3:17:43PM IN 2021 AND MADE COUNCIL AWARE OF THE INVESTIGATION I
3:17:48PM BELIEVE EARLY IN APRIL.
3:17:50PM BUT I WOULD CAUTION COUNCIL TO ALLOW A SINGLE INCIDENT LIKE
3:17:56PM THAT TO TRIGGER SOME ORDINANCE THAT MIGHT NOT FIT SO MANY OF
3:18:05PM THE OTHER INSTANCES.
3:18:09PM THOSE KIND OF INVESTIGATIONS ARE A KIND OF ONCE-IN-A-DECADE
3:18:13PM OCCURRENCE.
3:18:14PM THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF INVESTIGATIONS THAT TAKE PLACE.
3:18:18PM WE HAVE PEOPLE AT THE CITY FILING EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION
3:18:23PM COMPLAINTS.
3:18:23PM THOSE HAVE TO BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL.
3:18:26PM WE HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT MEMBERS WHO ARE EMPLOYEES WHO
3:18:33PM SOMETIMES AREN'T EVEN NOTIFIED THAT THEY ARE UNDER
3:18:36PM INVESTIGATION BY OUTSIDE AGENCIES.
3:18:41PM AS I SAID, THERE ARE INVESTIGATIONS AND THERE'S
3:18:43PM INVESTIGATIONS, AND IT'S HARD TO FIND A ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL
3:18:48PM SOLUTION TO THE WAY IN WHICH THE COMMUNICATION IS PROVIDED.
3:18:52PM AGAIN, SOME HAVE TO BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL; OTHERS DON'T.
3:18:56PM I THINK WHAT WE CAN TAKE AWAY FROM THE PARTICULAR INCIDENT
3:19:01PM THAT TRIGGERED THIS IS THAT, YES, THE MAYOR HAS ACKNOWLEDGED
3:19:08PM I BELIEVE VERY RECENTLY THAT SHE WISHES SOMETIMES
3:19:12PM COMMUNICATION HAPPEN MORE OPENLY AND QUICKLY, AND THIS IS AN
3:19:17PM EXAMPLE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT AN ORDINANCE IS THE
3:19:20PM CORRECT RESPONSE TO IT AS I'VE OUTLINED IN THIS MEMO AND AS
3:19:25PM I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN NOW.
3:19:26PM I THINK WE NEED TO COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT TYPE OF
3:19:32PM INVESTIGATIONS ARE CONFIDENTIAL, WHAT AREN'T, AND WHEN IT'S
3:19:37PM APPROPRIATE TO GO PUBLIC.
3:19:39PM WHEN YOU'RE BEING INVESTIGATED, WHAT THE CITY'S LAWYERS AND
3:19:42PM THE CITY IS USING OUTSIDE LAWYERS IN THAT PARTICULAR MATTER,
3:19:46PM WHAT THEY TELL YOU IS DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.
3:19:49PM YOU DON'T TALK ABOUT AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION OF YOUR OWN
3:19:53PM ACTIONS.
3:19:55PM SO THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF KEEPING EVERYTHING AS QUIET
3:19:59PM AS POSSIBLE.
3:20:01PM AGAIN, IT'S A DELICATE THING.
3:20:04PM PERHAPS IT COULD BE A ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATION WITH EACH
3:20:09PM COUNCIL MEMBER OF THIS TYPE OF INVESTIGATION.
3:20:12PM WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE IT, BUT I DON'T
3:20:16PM THINK IT'S POSSIBLE TO CRAFT AN ORDINANCE THAT COULD APPLY
3:20:20PM TO EVERY SITUATION BECAUSE EACH ONE IS GOING TO HAVE NUANCES
3:20:24PM THAT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO ADDRESS IN AN ORDINANCE.
3:20:27PM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
3:20:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: QUESTIONS?
3:20:32PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO, COUNCILMAN VIERA?
3:20:39PM PLEASE, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
3:20:41PM HE HASN'T RAISED HIS HAND UP.
3:20:43PM YOU'RE UP TO BAT.
3:20:44PM BUT BEFORE YOU START, I APOLOGIZE, I HAVE TO BE ON A
3:20:48PM CONFERENCE CALL AT 3:30, WHICH WILL LAST FOR HALF AN HOUR.
3:20:52PM I REALLY WANTED TO HEAR 9 AND 10.
3:20:56PM ONE OF THEM WAS MY MOTION TO BRING THIS BEFORE.
3:20:58PM LETTING YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO BE ON THIS CONFERENCE CALL.
3:21:01PM I HOPE TO BE BACK.
3:21:02PM THANK YOU.
3:21:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:21:07PM REALLY QUICK, I WAS ASKED ABOUT YESTERDAY AND I SAID I
3:21:10PM SUPPORT IT IN PRINCIPLE AND I HOPE WE CAN BUILD A BRIDGE TO
3:21:13PM GET TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
3:21:15PM BUT LET ME ASK YOU, BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THOUGHT
3:21:17PM OF, WHICH IS WHAT IS A CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION?
3:21:21PM IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM AN ALLEGATION OF EXCESSIVE FORCE
3:21:25PM BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO SOMETHING THAT'S MORE SYSTEMIC
3:21:29PM AND MAYBE THERE COULD BE A WAY WHERE WE TAKE CARE OF THE
3:21:33PM CONFIDENTIALITY ISSUES AND MAYBE LOOK AT SOMETHING THAT
3:21:36PM COULD BE RELEGATED TO EITHER WHAT IS ALLEGED TO BE A
3:21:39PM SYSTEMIC PRACTICE OR A PROGRAM LIKE CRIME-FREE HOUSING SO WE
3:21:43PM ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS THAT YOU LEGITIMATELY LAID
3:21:46PM OUT.
3:21:47PM JUST MY THOUGHTS.
3:21:48PM AGAIN, I DON'T WANT -- I DON'T LIKE SPEAKING BEFORE MAKERS
3:21:51PM OF MOTION.
3:21:51PM THAT'S JUST ME WHEN IT'S NOT MINE.
3:21:53PM JUST MY INITIAL IMPRESSION.
3:21:55PM THANK YOU.
3:22:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
3:22:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES HAS A SAYING THAT IS
3:22:07PM ONE THAT I LIKE TO USE IN THE PAST BUT HE SAYS IT BETTER,
3:22:11PM WHICH IS DON'T TELL ME WHAT WE CAN'T DO, TELL ME WHAT WE CAN
3:22:14PM DO.
3:22:15PM I FEEL LIKE TOO OFTEN WE ARE TOLD WHAT WE CAN'T DO.
3:22:19PM I'M HAVING BEEN TOLD BEFORE THAT IT WAS HARD TO DO, I WISH
3:22:23PM WE HAD MORE OF A SOLUTION HERE.
3:22:25PM IF YOU READ THE MEDIA AND LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, THE
3:22:31PM COMMUNITY, THE IMPRESSION IN THE COMMUNITY IS THAT THE
3:22:34PM ADMINISTRATION RAPIDLY RELEASES OR LEAKS OR PROMOTES
3:22:39PM INFORMATION THAT IS DISPARAGING ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT
3:22:44PM THEN DOESN'T RELEASE INFORMATION THAT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD FOR
3:22:47PM THEM OR THEIR ALLIES.
3:22:49PM IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST
3:22:57PM IMPORTANT THING THAT'S HAPPENED IN THE CITY SINCE WE'VE BEEN
3:22:59PM ON COUNCIL.
3:23:02PM THE MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND
3:23:07PM ACCOUNTABILITY TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL.
3:23:08PM BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS HAD NOT BEEN RELEASED.
3:23:10PM THE WAY WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT IS THAT A REPORTER FOUND OUT,
3:23:14PM PULLED A PUBLIC RECORDS, AND AFTER TWO WEEKS HAD NOT GOTTEN
3:23:17PM A RESPONSE ON THE PUBLIC RECORDS AND THEN THE MAYOR HAD A
3:23:20PM PRESS CONFERENCE AT 4:30 ON FRIDAY TO TALK ABOUT PROTECTING
3:23:23PM VICTIMS' RIGHTS AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PRESS CONFERENCE
3:23:26PM SAID, OH, AND, BY THE WAY, WE SENT A LETTER TO HUD AND HUD
3:23:31PM AND DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ARE KIND OF RELATED.
3:23:32PM INSTEAD OF RESPONDING FROM HUD, THEY RESPONDED FROM THE
3:23:35PM DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
3:23:36PM AND ALL OF THAT WAS TERRIBLE BECAUSE IT QUICKLY ERODED TRUST
3:23:40PM IN THE COMMUNITY.
3:23:41PM THERE WERE A COUPLE OF MEDIA OUTLETS THERE THAT FIGURED OUT
3:23:44PM WHAT HAPPENED AND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT.
3:23:46PM AND I WOULD JUST SAY FROM A COMMUNICATION POINT OF VIEW, I
3:23:52PM WOULD JUST ASK THE ADMINISTRATION, WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING
3:23:55PM THIS SIGNIFICANT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S EMBARRASSING TO THE
3:23:59PM ADMINISTRATION, TELL US QUICKLY.
3:24:03PM IT'S JUST LIKE WHEN YOU'RE A KID AND YOU SCREW UP, YOUR
3:24:06PM PARENTS SAY, IF YOU TOLD ME AND HONEST ABOUT IT, WOULDN'T
3:24:09PM PUNISH YOU AS BADLY.
3:24:10PM WE CAN'T PUNISH THE MAYOR, BUT IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC
3:24:15PM TO NOT KNOW ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
3:24:17PM THIS IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.
3:24:18PM IN 13 MONTHS OR WHATEVER, WE HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED ON IT.
3:24:21PM I ASKED CHIEF BENNETT --
3:24:23PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WE DON'T GET UPDATED EITHER.
3:24:25PM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WILL NOT PROVIDE THE CITY WITH
3:24:27PM INFORMATION ABOUT AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION.
3:24:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYWAY, I THINK THAT IF -- AND THE WAY IT
3:24:35PM WAS DONE, ANYBODY IN PR KNOWS IF YOU RELEASE SOMETHING ON A
3:24:39PM FRIDAY, THE TITLE, THE TOPIC WAS NOT ABOUT THE JUSTICE
3:24:42PM DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION.
3:24:43PM IT WAS A VICTIMS' RIGHTS.
3:24:45PM IT WAS BURIED IN THERE ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON, YOU RELEASE
3:24:49PM THINGS ON A FRIDAY AFTERNOON BECAUSE THE MEDIA WON'T PAY
3:24:52PM ATTENTION, NOT MANY REPORTERS WILL SHOW UP.
3:24:54PM THEN THEY SAID IT WAS A RESPONSE TO THE HUD LETTER WHICH
3:24:57PM NOBODY BELIEVES.
3:24:58PM SO THE BEST THING TO DO IS IF SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS, HOLD A
3:25:02PM PRESS CONFERENCE AND BE DIRECT AND HONEST ABOUT IT.
3:25:05PM CALL US FIRST AND HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE RIGHT AFTER.
3:25:08PM BE OPEN AND HONEST ABOUT IT AND SAY THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED
3:25:12PM AND WE'RE LOOKING AT IT.
3:25:13PM BY THE WAY, WE ALREADY CHANGED THE PROGRAM.
3:25:15PM IT'S NOT THAT BIG A DEAL.
3:25:16PM THE MAYOR COULD OWN IT AND SAY, LOOK, I WORK WITH MY POLICE
3:25:20PM CHIEF TO CHANGE THE PROGRAM, SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NEW
3:25:23PM PROGRAM AS WE GO FORWARD.
3:25:24PM IF WE MADE MISTAKES IN THE PAST, WE WANT TO OWN UP TO THEM
3:25:27PM AND WORK WITH THEM.
3:25:28PM BUT WE ALREADY CHANGED.
3:25:30PM ALL OF THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT.
3:25:31PM BUT GOING FORWARD, WE COULD HAVE THE CITY, NOT WE, THE CITY
3:25:37PM COULD HAVE AN ADMINISTRATION THAT'S WORSE THAT DOESN'T BRIEF
3:25:42PM COUNCIL ON ANYTHING.
3:25:43PM I HEAR A LOT OF COMPLAINTS IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT HOW PUBLIC
3:25:49PM RECORDS TAKE FOREVER.
3:25:51PM MY OWN PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST HAVEN'T BEEN RESPONDED TO IN A
3:25:54PM MONTH OR TWO.
3:25:55PM HOW PEOPLE ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND SOMEBODY RESPONDS, SO
3:26:00PM WE'RE NOT SPECIFIC ENOUGH.
3:26:01PM YOU SAY I WANT A CERTAIN CONTRACT ON A CERTAIN DAY FROM THIS
3:26:05PM COMPANY ON THIS TOPIC, YOU NEED TO TELL US WHICH ONE, HOW
3:26:08PM WOULD SOMEONE KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT?
3:26:10PM I THINK WE DESPERATELY NEED TO WORK ON TRANSPARENCY.
3:26:13PM I WOULD ASK YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO MAKE
3:26:16PM A MOTION.
3:26:17PM I WOULD ASK YOU MAYBE MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE YOU COME BACK ON
3:26:20PM MARCH 2nd AND JUST TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO.
3:26:25PM WE COULD HAVE A RESOLUTION, A REQUEST, BUT IF WE GOT A MAYOR
3:26:29PM THAT WAS WORSE AND REFUSED TO TELL A FUTURE CITY COUNCIL
3:26:33PM ANYTHING, THAT'S A REALLY BAD SITUATION BECAUSE THE CITY
3:26:36PM COUNCIL IS LIABLE.
3:26:37PM AND I'LL CONTRAST THAT TO YOUR WORK WITH US ON THE FOUR
3:26:42PM YEARS OF SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS THAT WERE NOT APPROVED BY
3:26:44PM CITY COUNCIL.
3:26:45PM YOU CAME FORWARD AND WORKED QUICKLY WITH US AND WE RESOLVED
3:26:48PM THE PROBLEM.
3:26:48PM SO SOMEHOW WE NEED TO INSTITUTIONALIZE AND NEED A SOLUTION
3:26:53PM FOR HOW TO PREVENT THAT IN THE FUTURE.
3:26:55PM THANK YOU.
3:26:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
3:26:57PM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
3:26:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HAVE AN APPLE AND YOU HAVE AN ORANGE.
3:27:03PM IN MY MIND, THE FEDERAL INVESTIGATION IS AN ORANGE.
3:27:10PM A POLICE INVESTIGATION OF A CITIZEN'S COMPLAINT IS A
3:27:15PM DIFFERENT TYPE OF INVESTIGATION.
3:27:16PM THAT'S AN APPLE.
3:27:17PM I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THAT.
3:27:19PM THAT'S THE INVESTIGATION GOING ON.
3:27:21PM BUT A MAJOR INVESTIGATION OF A CITY COUNCIL SHOULD KNOW
3:27:26PM ABOUT.
3:27:27PM AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN APPLE AND AN ORANGE.
3:27:31PM COMPLAINT BY EMPLOYEE, ADMINISTRATOR, WHATEVER, I DON'T
3:27:36PM REALLY CARE ABOUT THAT.
3:27:37PM THAT GOES WITH THE REST OF THE PROCESS.
3:27:40PM BUT DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE INVESTIGATION, CITY OF TAMPA
3:27:43PM POLICE DEPARTMENT, OR AGAINST THE CITY OF TAMPA'S
3:27:45PM ADMINISTRATION, YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL
3:27:48PM NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT.
3:27:50PM IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN'T DO, BUT I SEE SOMETHING WE CAN
3:27:53PM DO HERE.
3:27:53PM I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT TYPES, THE APPLE
3:27:56PM AND THE ORANGE.
3:27:57PM I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ORANGE.
3:27:59PM THE OTHER THINGS I WILL SAY EMPLOYEE-TYPE ISSUE
3:28:02PM INVESTIGATIONS VERSUS A MAGNITUDE OF A CITY INVESTIGATION
3:28:06PM FROM AN OUTSIDE AGENCY.
3:28:10PM I THINK THAT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF INVESTIGATION.
3:28:13PM SO I CAN CONCUR WITH SOME OF WHAT MS. ZELMAN IS SAYING IN
3:28:18PM REFERENCE TO THE APPLE BUT I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN
3:28:20PM DO WITH THE ORANGE.
3:28:21PM I YIELD BACK TO THE CHAIR.
3:28:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:28:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL AGREE.
3:28:29PM I THINK THE FACT THAT THE CITY HAS NOW BEEN THE SUBJECT OF A
3:28:31PM DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE INVESTIGATION TWICE IN SIX YEARS,
3:28:38PM SEVEN.
3:28:38PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NO.
3:28:39PM THE OTHER ONE WAS I BELIEVE 2015.
3:28:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, EIGHT YEARS -- SEVEN YEARS BECAUSE IT
3:28:46PM HAPPENED LAST YEAR IS NOT GOOD.
3:28:48PM THERE'S NOTHING GOOD ABOUT THAT.
3:28:50PM YEAH, WE SHOULD HAVE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AHEAD OF TIME.
3:28:53PM WHEN STUFF LIKE THIS COMES IN FRONT OF US AND YOU SAY IT'S A
3:28:58PM RARITY BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE FINDING OUT IT'S NOT.
3:29:01PM EVERY SEVEN YEARS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE OR TWICE IN SEVEN YEARS.
3:29:05PM SO I WOULD WANT SOMETHING NOT JUST COMING BACK SAYING WHAT
3:29:10PM YOU CAN DO, BUT SAYING WHAT WE WILL BE WRITING, WHAT THE
3:29:16PM ORDINANCE WILL SAY TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL IS NOTIFIED WITHIN
3:29:22PM THESE TEN DAYS FOR A CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATION PERTAINING
3:29:28PM TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, NOT ITS EMPLOYEES, BUT THE CITY OF
3:29:30PM TAMPA.
3:29:31PM BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
3:29:34PM INVESTIGATION WAS ABOUT, CORRECT?
3:29:36PM THE CITY, NOT EMPLOYEES.
3:29:37PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CORRECT.
3:29:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE COULD DIFFERENTIATE THAT.
3:29:40PM I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL TRYING TO SAY HERE.
3:29:43PM I WOULD LIKE TO GO EVEN STRONGER THAN A RECOMMENDATION AND
3:29:45PM HAVE YOU COME BACK WITH AN ACTUAL ORDINANCE THAT WOULD DO
3:29:51PM THAT AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFICS THEN.
3:29:54PM >> SECOND.
3:29:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:29:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
3:29:59PM LET'S WAIT ON THE MOTION.
3:30:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THOUGHT YOU HAD A MOTION FIRST.
3:30:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
3:30:04PM I WAS SECONDING HERS.
3:30:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WASN'T MAKING A MOTION BUT I WILL.
3:30:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS WHEN THESE
3:30:18PM THINGS HAPPEN WITH AN INVESTIGATION FROM ANY FEDERAL
3:30:21PM AGENCIES THAT HAVE SOME JURISDICTIONAL POWER WITHIN THE
3:30:24PM COURTS AND SO FORTH, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT THIS IS, AGAINST
3:30:26PM THE CITY, NOT IN THE INDIVIDUALS.
3:30:28PM AGAINST AN ENTITY OF THE CITY, HOW IS IT FRAMED?
3:30:33PM DOES IT SPECIFICALLY SAY WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT AND WHO IS
3:30:36PM INVOLVED AND SO FORTH AND SO ON?
3:30:37PM I DON'T KNOW.
3:30:38PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WELL, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IN THIS CASE,
3:30:41PM AGAIN, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE BASICALLY SENT THE CITY A
3:30:44PM LETTER NOTIFYING THE CITY THAT THEY WERE GOING TO
3:30:48PM INVESTIGATE.
3:30:51PM THEY SPECIFICALLY REFERENCED THE SERIES OF ARTICLES THAT HAD
3:30:55PM BEEN WRITTEN BY THE TAMPA BAY TIMES AND THEY SAID THEY WERE
3:30:57PM GOING TO INVESTIGATE THE INCIDENTS REFLECTED IN THAT.
3:31:01PM AND THEN THEY ALSO ASKED THE CITY, THAT LETTER INCLUDED A
3:31:04PM VERY LONG LIST OF RECORDS THAT THEY ASKED THE CITY TO
3:31:09PM PRODUCE, WHICH THE CITY DID PROMPTLY.
3:31:12PM AFTER THAT -- YEAH, THE CITY DID PROVIDE ALL THOSE RECORDS.
3:31:16PM AFTER THAT, AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE, BECAUSE I SAID IT
3:31:20PM QUICKLY, WE ARE NOT KEPT INFORMED.
3:31:22PM THE CITY DOES NOT RECEIVE FURTHER COMMUNICATION FROM THE
3:31:27PM DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ABOUT THE STATUS OF THAT
3:31:30PM INVESTIGATION.
3:31:31PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, THAT WE'RE AS MUCH IN THE
3:31:36PM DARK AS YOU ARE AT THIS POINT.
3:31:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH AND YOU DON'T KNOW
3:31:42PM ANYTHING ENOUGH TO TELL US ABOUT.
3:31:44PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CORRECT.
3:31:45PM WHILE THE INVESTIGATION IS ONGOING, THE CITY IS NOT GIVEN
3:31:48PM ANY KIND OF STATUS REPORTS.
3:31:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND THE TIME FRAME HAS BEEN HOW LONG
3:31:53PM SINCE THIS STARTED?
3:31:55PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THE LETTER CAME TO US DECEMBER OF 2022.
3:31:57PM 2021.
3:31:59PM I APOLOGIZE.
3:32:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY GOT MORE THAN CITY OF TAMPA, THEN.
3:32:06PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NO.
3:32:07PM THIS IS AN INVESTIGATION OF TAMPA'S PROGRAM.
3:32:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
3:32:11PM WE SHOULD AT LEAST BE NOTIFIED BECAUSE THAT'S ABOUT IT.
3:32:16PM IT'S UP TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
3:32:17PM IT MAY TAKE TWO OR THREE YEARS.
3:32:20PM WHO KNOWS.
3:32:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
3:32:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY.
3:32:26PM I HAVE TO ASK.
3:32:27PM ARE THERE ANY OTHER INVESTIGATIONS THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF FROM
3:32:31PM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OR FDLE RIGHT NOW?
3:32:35PM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SINGLE BIG
3:32:41PM CONTRACTS, INSIDER DEALS WITH THE LAST TWO ADMINISTRATIONS.
3:32:46PM A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE COME TO ME AND SAID THEY REPORTED TO
3:32:49PM VARIOUS AGENCIES.
3:32:51PM IS THERE ANY OTHER ONGOING INVESTIGATION RIGHT NOW?
3:32:54PM HAS THE CITY RECEIVED ANY OTHER LETTER?
3:32:57PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NO.
3:32:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW WOULD WE KNOW IF THE CITY GOT A LETTER
3:33:01PM LIKE THAT THAT WE WOULD SEE IT NEXT TIME?
3:33:03PM LET'S SAY IT'S ABOUT PURCHASING OR SOMETHING.
3:33:06PM SO I GUESS MAYBE THE MOTION I WOULD MAKE IS IF THE CITY IS
3:33:13PM UNDER INVESTIGATION IN ANY FORM BY THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF
3:33:18PM JUSTICE OR FDLE, THAT WE WOULD BE NOTIFIED, NOT INDIVIDUALS,
3:33:23PM BUT IF THE CITY WAS BEING INVESTIGATED THAT WOULD BE
3:33:25PM NOTIFIED.
3:33:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION --
3:33:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE JUST FLEW BACK AND FORTH WITH MOTIONS.
3:33:33PM WASN'T A MOTION THAT YOU MADE THAT WAS SECONDED BY HIM.
3:33:35PM SO THE QUESTION THEN, COULD YOU RESTATE THAT IN THE FORM OF
3:33:41PM A MOTION THEN WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE?
3:33:45PM I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW THIS WOULD BE PUT IN THE FORM OF AN
3:33:50PM ORDINANCE.
3:33:51PM I'M LISTENING TO THIS DISCUSSION, AND I UNDERSTAND THE
3:33:57PM SITUATION, BUT -- I MEAN, EVEN IF IT WAS AN ORDINANCE, THE
3:34:02PM QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE REMEDY WITH THE ORDINANCE AS
3:34:05PM OPPOSED TO CREATING A POLICY OR AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN AN
3:34:09PM ADMINISTRATION WITH THIS COUNCIL?
3:34:12PM YOU COULD PUT IT IN THE FORM OF AN ORDINANCE, BUT ULTIMATELY
3:34:16PM WHAT'S THE REMEDY THAT'S GOING TO BE SURE TO MAKE WHAT YOU
3:34:20PM WANT TO HAVE ACCOMPLISHED ACCOMPLISHED?
3:34:22PM THIS WOULD BE A RATHER -- THIS IS A VERY SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT
3:34:31PM I WOULD AGREE WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY WHETHER AN ORDINANCE
3:34:35PM WOULD ACTUALLY BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD REALLY ADDRESS THIS
3:34:38PM ISSUE IN THE WAY YOU WANT.
3:34:39PM I'M NOT QUESTIONING WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.
3:34:41PM I'M JUST SAYING, WHAT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE, CONSISTENT
3:34:47PM ASSURANCE THAT YOU WILL GET WHAT YOU WANT, HAVING SOMETHING
3:34:49PM ON THE BOOKS OR IS THERE ANOTHER WAY THAT IT CAN BE
3:34:52PM ACCOMPLISHED WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION?
3:34:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE DO A RESOLUTION, THEY CAN JUST IGNORE
3:34:57PM IT.
3:34:58PM THERE IS THE CHARTER ISSUE OF WHETHER WE HAVE ANDREA PUT IN
3:35:01PM HER MEMO THE CHARTER ISSUE ABOUT WHETHER WE CAN INSTRUCT --
3:35:06PM I MEAN, IS IT POSSIBLE INSTEAD OF SAYING THE MAYOR MUST
3:35:10PM INFORM US, THAT STAFF MUST INFORM US OR THE CITY ATTORNEY
3:35:13PM AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TECHNICALLY REPORTS TO US.
3:35:16PM SHOULDN'T WE -- CAN'T WE WRITE AN ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE THE
3:35:21PM CITY ATTORNEY TO INFORM US ABOUT THEIR BEING FORMED OF
3:35:27PM FEDERAL OR FDLE INVESTIGATION.
3:35:31PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: MARTY TOUCHED ON WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS
3:35:33PM IT POSSIBLE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION TO NOT NECESSARILY REQUIRE
3:35:37PM AN ORDINANCE, BUT LET US FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S SOME OTHER
3:35:39PM WAY TO HAVE SOME SORT OF ENFORCEABLE PROTOCOL BETWEEN THE
3:35:45PM ADMINISTRATION AND THE CITY COUNCIL?
3:35:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE.
3:35:51PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: AGAIN, I DON'T THINK AN ORDINANCE IS THE
3:35:53PM APPROPRIATE VEHICLE.
3:36:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T AGREE BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT
3:36:03PM HAS HAPPENED THAT IF IT HADN'T BEEN DISCOVERED, WE WOULD
3:36:07PM STILL BE IN THE DARK ABOUT, AND I DON'T THINK YOU CAN JUST
3:36:11PM ASK YOUR WAY OUT OF THIS OR JUST SAY NICELY, PLEASE MAKE
3:36:15PM SURE YOU DO THIS IN THE FUTURE.
3:36:16PM AN ORDINANCE WOULD MAKE IT BE A REQUIREMENT.
3:36:21PM I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT MULTIPLE THINGS, BUT AN ORDINANCE
3:36:25PM BETTER BE ON THE LIST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW OTHER WAYS TO
3:36:27PM REALLY MAKE SURE.
3:36:30PM I MEAN, A POLICY IS GREAT, BUT THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY TEETH
3:36:33PM BEHIND THAT.
3:36:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND THEN MR.
3:36:36PM SHELBY.
3:36:37PM OKAY.
3:36:38PM FLIP IT AROUND.
3:36:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: GO AHEAD.
3:36:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WERE A BOARD IN A CITY MANAGER FORM
3:36:48PM OF GOVERNMENT AND YOU HAD A CITY MANAGER, THEN THAT WOULD BE
3:36:51PM ONE THING.
3:36:54PM I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER STRONG MAYOR FORMS OF GOVERNMENT, NOT
3:36:57PM ONLY IN THIS STATE BUT THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY THAT HAVE TO
3:37:00PM DEAL WITH THINGS PROBABLY, FORTUNATELY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
3:37:05PM THAT DEAL WITH OTHER CITIES A LOT MORE THE DEPARTMENT OF
3:37:08PM JUSTICE DEALING WITH THE CITIES A LOT MORE THAN TAMPA.
3:37:12PM THERE HAS GOT TO BE -- YOU RAISE A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
3:37:16PM HOW IN THOSE STRONG MAYOR FORMS OF GOVERNMENT DOES THE
3:37:18PM STRONG MAYOR THEN COMMUNICATE WITH THE BODY, WHETHER IT BE
3:37:22PM THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OR WHATEVER THE LEGISLATIVE
3:37:27PM BODY IS.
3:37:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE START CALLING IT ELECTED MAYOR RATHER
3:37:31PM THAN STRONG MAYOR BECAUSE IT IS A MISNOMER?
3:37:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
3:37:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA AND THEN COUNCIL
3:37:36PM MEMBER GUDES.
3:37:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: -- NOWHERE IN OUR CHARTER.
3:37:47PM ELECTED MAYOR.
3:37:49PM BUT I DO BELIEVE IF THE ORDINANCE DICTATES TO WHERE THE
3:37:56PM MAYOR AND THE CITY ATTORNEY MUST NOTIFY THIS COUNCIL, NOW
3:38:00PM YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.
3:38:01PM BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY ALSO, THE WORD I'VE BEEN USING,
3:38:07PM REPRESENTS THE CITY.
3:38:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SAY THAT AGAIN.
3:38:11PM I'M SORRY.
3:38:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL I'M HEARING THE CITY ATTORNEY DOESN'T
3:38:15PM NECESSARILY REPRESENT COUNCIL, THEY REPRESENT THE CITY.
3:38:17PM IF THE CITY ATTORNEY REPRESENTS THE CITY, PER SE, THEN THE
3:38:20PM CITY ATTORNEY SHOULD BE, BECAUSE THE MAYOR IS GOING TO GIVE
3:38:24PM THE CITY ATTORNEY THIS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
3:38:28PM INVESTIGATION.
3:38:28PM HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY BE RESPONSIBLE ALONG WITH THE MAYOR
3:38:33PM OR THE ADMINISTRATION TO NOTIFY THIS COUNCIL OF THOSE TYPE
3:38:37PM OF INVESTIGATIONS.
3:38:38PM THAT WAY YOU HAVE TWO PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT
3:38:41PM THE COUNCIL IS AWARE OF ANY TYPE OF INVESTIGATION OF THAT
3:38:45PM MAGNITUDE.
3:38:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:38:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
3:38:48PM I THINK SOMETHING THAT MS. ZELMAN SAID IS VERY ON POINT
3:38:51PM HERE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH I THINK WHAT EVERYBODY HERE
3:38:55PM IS SAYING WHO HAS SPOKE ON THIS.
3:38:57PM YOU SAID SOME ENFORCEABLE MECHANISM.
3:39:00PM WHETHER AN ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST NOT
3:39:02PM THINKING OF HERE.
3:39:04PM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHICH IS NOT THE TEN
3:39:08PM SUGGESTIONS BUT THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.
3:39:10PM AND WHETHER THE TEN COMMANDMENTS COME THROUGH AN ORDINANCE
3:39:12PM OR COME THROUGH SOMETHING ELSE, SOMETHING THAT IS
3:39:15PM ENFORCEABLE AND WORKABLE AND CONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE LAW,
3:39:18PM I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL LOOKING AT.
3:39:20PM IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE'RE NOT THINKING OF, THAT'S FINE.
3:39:23PM BUT I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT HAVING SOME SORT OF ENFORCEABLE
3:39:28PM TOOL, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, TO HAVE NOTICED THE CITY COUNCIL.
3:39:32PM SO THAT'S THE WAY I KIND OF SEE THE MOTION AND JUST TO MOVE
3:39:36PM IT FORWARD AND THEN WHATNOT.
3:39:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW ABOUT I MAKE A MOTION AND YOU'RE GOOD
3:39:44PM ABOUT TALKING TO US IN BETWEEN MEETINGS.
3:39:46PM IF YOU AND MORRIS AND YOUR TEAM COME UP WITH A BETTER IDEA,
3:39:49PM CALL US.
3:39:50PM IF IT'S A BETTER IDEA, WE'LL REPLACE IT.
3:39:52PM WE DON'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE END.
3:39:54PM SO I'LL JUST MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
3:39:58PM RETURN ON MARCH 2nd TO -- WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT
3:40:04PM WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY ATTORNEY TO INFORM CITY COUNCIL
3:40:11PM WITHIN TEN DAYS OF THE RECEIPT OF A LETTER OR NOTICE OF
3:40:19PM INVESTIGATION OF THE CITY, NOT INDIVIDUALS, BY THE UNITED
3:40:24PM STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OR FDLE, FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
3:40:31PM LAW ENFORCEMENT.
3:40:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
3:40:40PM DISCUSSION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:40:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ARE YOU SAYING IN YOUR
3:40:44PM PREFACE TO THAT, THAT IF THERE ARE DISCUSSIONS IN BETWEEN ON
3:40:44PM SOME OTHER -- AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO GET THIS DONE, I DON'T
3:40:51PM MEAN TODAY IN TERMS OF GETTING OUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT GET
3:40:54PM SOMETHING DONE THAT IS ENFORCEABLE, WHETHER IT'S AN
3:40:56PM ORDINANCE OR SOMETHING WE'RE NOT THINKING OF.
3:40:58PM IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING OF?
3:41:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, WE'VE HAD THIS ON THE AGENDA TWICE.
3:41:02PM I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE AT FIRST READING SOMETHING IDEALLY
3:41:08PM ON MARCH 2nd.
3:41:10PM IF YOU COME UP WITH A BETTER IDEA BEFORE THEN, THEN, IF YOU
3:41:14PM DON'T MIND, COME TO US INDIVIDUALLY.
3:41:16PM AT THE VERY NEXT MEETING I OR SOMEONE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO
3:41:19PM REPLACE THAT ONE AND WE COULD ALSO CHANGE THE DATES.
3:41:22PM JUST TO BE HONEST, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCIL IS GOING TO
3:41:26PM LOOK LIKE AFTER MAY 1st.
3:41:28PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NO, THAT'S FAIR.
3:41:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
3:41:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:41:33PM AYE.
3:41:34PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:41:34PM ALL RIGHT.
3:41:38PM DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT?
3:41:39PM YES, MA'AM.
3:41:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A CITY CALL.
3:41:45PM I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.
3:41:47PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, KELLA McCASKILL.
3:41:53PM I THINK IT IS A SHAME THAT YOU EVEN HAVE TO DO THIS.
3:41:55PM I JUST BELIEVE AS A LEADER OF THIS CITY YOU SHOULD WANT TO
3:41:57PM CONVEY THAT INFORMATION TO YOU ALL, SHOULD WANT TO TELL THE
3:41:57PM PUBLIC, SHOULD WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY.
3:41:58PM IN MAKING THE DECISION, I KNOW THEY'LL COME BACK.
3:42:01PM I'M SO HAPPY THAT ALL OF YOU SAW IT REASONABLE TO PUSH
3:42:04PM FORWARD WHAT YOU WANTED AND NOT LET LEGAL COME BACK AND TELL
3:42:08PM YOU ALL THAT.
3:42:09PM I THINK OFTENTIMES THEY DON'T FACTOR IN WHAT WE'VE BEEN
3:42:12PM THROUGH.
3:42:12PM WE WENT THROUGH A LOT.
3:42:15PM IT WAS HELL IN THE CITY OF TAMPA SO MUCH SO THAT THE MAYOR
3:42:19PM SAID IN APRIL OF LAST YEAR, SHE CALLED THAT PRESS CONFERENCE
3:42:22PM ASKING OR ENCOURAGING TO ENHANCE TRANSPARENCY AND
3:42:25PM ACCOUNTABILITY.
3:42:26PM I SAW IN AN ARTICLE THIS WEEK, JUST THIS WEEK SHE ADMITTED
3:42:30PM THAT COMMUNICATION COULD HAVE BEEN IMPROVED IN HER LAST
3:42:33PM TERM.
3:42:34PM I BELIEVE THAT'S HER EFFORT.
3:42:35PM AS MUCH AS I PROBABLY CRITICIZE HER, I'M HOPING THAT WAS HER
3:42:39PM EFFORT TO TRY TO GET THIS LACK OF TRUST AND LACK OF
3:42:43PM TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY RIGHT.
3:42:44PM THAT'S ONE BIG STEP.
3:42:45PM IT'S HUGE FOR HER TO ADMIT IT, IT IS ANOTHER STEP FOR US TO
3:42:50PM SEE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
3:42:51PM NOT ONLY DO WE WANT AN ORDINANCE, POLICY, OR WHATEVER THAT'S
3:42:55PM GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BUT I WANT TO KNOW FROM THE
3:42:57PM ADMINISTRATION WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO TO ENHANCE
3:42:59PM TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
3:43:01PM THAT WHOLE VETO THING, THAT SHOT THAT IN THE FOOT.
3:43:05PM THIS IS THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO GET TRANSPARENCY AND
3:43:08PM ACCOUNTABILITY AND IMPROVING COMMUNICATION.
3:43:10PM I WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
3:43:13PM WE ALL WANT TO LIVE IN PEACE.
3:43:17PM I WANT TO LIVE PEACEFULLY AMONGST EVERYBODY, SO I WOULD LIKE
3:43:21PM TO SEE YOU IMPROVE IN THE AREA THAT YOU ADMITTED THERE'S
3:43:23PM PROBLEMS, WHICH IS COMMUNICATION AND THEN ALSO WORK ON THAT
3:43:27PM TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
3:43:28PM THANK YOU.
3:43:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:43:30PM NEXT SPEAKER.
3:43:30PM YES, MA'AM.
3:43:34PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
3:43:35PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
3:43:36PM WE TALKED ABOUT THE TWO INCIDENTS HERE WHERE THE DOJ HAS
3:43:43PM BEEN HERE, BUT WHAT I THINK IS INTERESTING IS I JUST LEARNED
3:43:46PM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO THAT THE MAYOR WAS LIKE A MONITOR FOR
3:43:52PM MIAMI FOR THEIR DOJ INVESTIGATION.
3:43:55PM LIKE SHE GOT PAID A LOT OF MONEY WHEN SHE WAS RUNNING FOR
3:43:57PM MAYOR TO DO THAT.
3:43:58PM SO I WOULD THINK SHE WOULD KNOW AS WELL AS ANYBODY WHAT THE
3:44:04PM CITIZENS NEED TO KNOW.
3:44:05PM BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME HUBBUB AS PART OF THAT HER $150 AN
3:44:11PM HOUR JOB THAT SHE WAS DOING WHILE SHE WAS RUNNING FOR MAYOR,
3:44:15PM THAT YOU WOULD THINK THAT SHE WOULD KNOW WHAT THE CITIZENS
3:44:19PM WANT TO KNOW AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS MONITORED A CITY THAT HAD
3:44:24PM AN ISSUE.
3:44:26PM I DON'T KNOW.
3:44:26PM JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
3:44:28PM YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY.
3:44:32PM I'M GOING HOME.
3:44:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:44:34PM ANYBODY ELSE?
3:44:34PM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
3:44:35PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:44:36PM WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 9.
3:44:38PM THIS IS T & I STAFF, CITY CLERK'S OFFICE AND LEGAL TO REPORT
3:44:42PM ON THE COST AND FEASIBILITY IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO HAVE
3:44:45PM STAFF REPORTS TO BE HELD ON A SEPARATE DAY OTHER THAN
3:44:48PM THURSDAYS.
3:44:48PM WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS ITEM BECAUSE IT'S A GROUP OF
3:44:52PM INDIVIDUALS?
3:44:53PM MR. SHELBY.
3:44:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY --
3:44:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE JOHN BENNETT ON THE LINE AS
3:45:01PM WELL.
3:45:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. BENNETT IS ONLINE AND I'LL ALSO POINT
3:45:05PM OUT THAT THE CHAIR IS THE ONE WHO INITIATED THIS.
3:45:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
3:45:11PM WE'LL COME BACK TO IT.
3:45:12PM HE SAID HE WOULD BE 30 MINUTES.
3:45:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT 4:00.
3:45:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE NEXT ITEM IS INITIATED BY COUNCIL
3:45:18PM MEMBER VIERA WHO STEPPED OUT.
3:45:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE TWO ARE RELATED.
3:45:24PM FRANKLY, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU HANDLE NUMBER 9 IS HOW YOU
3:45:30PM HANDLE NUMBER 10.
3:45:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A RECESS UNTIL 4:00?
3:45:34PM WE HAVE THE CLERK.
3:45:38PM YES, MA'AM.
3:45:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT YOU ARE DOING THIS WITHOUT THE BENEFIT
3:45:43PM THE PROPORTIONATE AND THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
3:45:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE IS THE THING, WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE ANY
3:45:47PM DECISIONS TODAY.
3:45:48PM WE CAN HEAR THINGS.
3:45:50PM THEY CAN GO BACK AND WATCH THE TAPE.
3:45:51PM WE CAN COME BACK ANOTHER DAY.
3:45:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND THAT MOTION.
3:46:00PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
3:46:04PM THIS IS REGARDING AN ADDITIONAL MEETING FOR COUNCIL.
3:46:10PM AS FAR AS OUR POSITION, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE POSITION,
3:46:17PM BASICALLY STAFFING IS NOT AVAILABLE TO COVER AN ADDITIONAL
3:46:22PM MEETING.
3:46:23PM THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES ON IN THE BACKGROUND TO
3:46:28PM PROCESS MEETINGS EACH WEEK.
3:46:31PM COUNCIL ALREADY ADDED A COMMENDATION SESSION THAT BRINGS THE
3:46:37PM MEETINGS FOR COUNCIL TO SEVEN PER MONTH, TWO REGULAR
3:46:41PM SESSIONS, TWO EVENING SESSIONS, ONE CRA SESSION, ONE
3:46:46PM COMMENDATION SESSION, AND ONE WORKSHOP SESSION.
3:46:50PM THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE SPECIAL-CALLED MEETINGS OR ADDITIONAL
3:46:55PM NIGHT MEETINGS THAT MAY BE REQUESTED.
3:46:57PM OUR OFFICE ALSO COVERS THE BOARD MEETINGS SUCH AS CODE
3:47:03PM ENFORCEMENT, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE MEETINGS, CITIZENS REVIEW
3:47:09PM BOARD, CIVIL SERVICE, AND THE BUDGET ADVISORY SESSION.
3:47:16PM STAFF NEEDS AMPLE TIME FOR PRE-MEETING PREP AS WELL AS
3:47:23PM POST-MEETING WORK FOR EACH MEETING.
3:47:27PM ADDITIONAL STAFF WILL NEED TO BE HIRED AND TRAINED TO ASSIST
3:47:31PM WITH ANY ADDITIONAL MEETING.
3:47:34PM OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO HAVE STAFF REPORT SESSIONS TO
3:47:40PM REPLACE WORKSHOP SESSIONS.
3:47:44PM THIS WILL CALL FOR EXCELLENT PLANNING AND MOVING SOME ITEMS
3:47:49PM OUT FURTHER, SIMILAR TO THE COURT SYSTEM.
3:47:54PM IF A SUBJECT MATTER SUCH AS LAND DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENTS NEED
3:48:00PM TO BE WHERE'D, THEN A SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP CAN BE
3:48:05PM SCHEDULED.
3:48:06PM OUR OFFICE IS LIKE THE HUB OF THE CITY.
3:48:10PM WE SERVE YOU.
3:48:13PM THE ADMINISTRATION, OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND, OF COURSE, THE
3:48:15PM PUBLIC.
3:48:17PM WE WILL SHORTLY BE WORKING ON A REPLACEMENT FOR THE AGENDA
3:48:23PM MANAGEMENT SYSTEM REPLACING SIRE.
3:48:25PM LASTLY, THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE HAS A WONDERFUL AND
3:48:30PM DEDICATED STAFF DOING OUR BEST FOR YOU, THE ADMINISTRATION,
3:48:36PM AND OUR PUBLIC.
3:48:37PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:48:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:48:43PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:48:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DO ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU
3:48:47PM DO AND IT'S KNOWN.
3:48:48PM WE GET E-MAILS AT ALL TIMES.
3:48:50PM I, AND I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR OTHERS, REALLY APPRECIATE THE
3:48:55PM WONDERFUL WORK YOU ALL DO.
3:48:57PM FIRST OF ALL -- AND I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT HERE -- DO
3:49:02PM YOU FEEL YOU'RE ADEQUATELY STAFFED?
3:49:04PM WOULD YOU LIKE MORE STAFF?
3:49:06PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: WE HAVE A DEPUTY OUT RIGHT NOW.
3:49:11PM I THINK WE'RE OKAY.
3:49:14PM WE DO OUR VERY BEST.
3:49:16PM WE'RE TRYING TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE CITY'S RESOURCES,
3:49:21PM AND EVERYBODY IS DOING THEIR PART.
3:49:24PM IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL STAFF, WE'LL ASK.
3:49:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, BECAUSE YOU BRING UP A
3:49:32PM REALLY INTERESTING POINT OF HAVING INSTEAD OF A WORKSHOP
3:49:36PM SESSION, TO ACTUALLY MOVE, OH, GOSH, THE STAFF REPORTS TO A
3:49:42PM DIFFERENT DAY AND THEN HOLD SPECIAL CALLED SESSIONS FOR
3:49:48PM PARTICULAR SUBJECTS.
3:49:50PM IF WE WERE TO START THAT MODEL, I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE
3:49:53PM DOING SO WITH ADDING ANOTHER STAFF MEMBER BECAUSE I CAN SEE
3:49:57PM RIGHT NOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE SPECIAL CALLS.
3:49:59PM THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WOULD DO.
3:50:01PM IF WE WERE TO ADOPT A SIMILAR MODEL, I WOULD WANT TO DO SO
3:50:11PM WITH THE APPROPRIATE STAFF.
3:50:12PM IF, SAY, WE WOULD HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MAYBE EVERY OTHER
3:50:15PM MONTH, WOULD ONE ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBER BE ENOUGH TO MAKE
3:50:19PM SURE THE LOAD IS EQUAL?
3:50:22PM OR WOULD YOU NEED A SECOND STAFF MEMBER AND JUST PREPARE FOR
3:50:28PM THAT?
3:50:29PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YOU DON'T CALL SPECIAL CALLED
3:50:34PM MEETINGS EVERY OTHER MONTH.
3:50:36PM I MEAN, YOU WILL CALL IT FOR SPECIAL ITEMS.
3:50:39PM SO RIGHT NOW, I WOULD REALLY JUST HOLD OFF ON DOING
3:50:43PM ANYTHING.
3:50:43PM AND REALLY WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS TO REPLACE STAFF MEETINGS
3:50:51PM IN PLACE OF THE WORKSHOP MEETINGS.
3:50:53PM SOMETIMES STAFF MEETINGS END UP BEING WORKSHOP MEETINGS.
3:50:58PM AND IF YOU DO THAT I WOULD LIMIT IT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE
3:51:05PM THE ENTIRE DAY FOR THAT.
3:51:08PM MAYBE LIMIT IT TO TEN STAFF MEETINGS.
3:51:12PM LIKE THE COURT SYSTEM, JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT A CERTAIN ITEM
3:51:18PM TO HAPPEN THE NEXT MONTH, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN LIKE THAT.
3:51:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION IF YOU DON'T MIND
3:51:27PM THAT IS A LITTLE OFF TOPIC.
3:51:28PM WE NOTICED IT TWICE TODAY, THAT SEVERAL OF THE PowerPoints
3:51:33PM OR THE REPORTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE IN SIRE AHEAD OF TIME.
3:51:37PM WHAT IS YOUR GENERAL RULE ABOUT WHEN THINGS NEED TO BE TO
3:51:41PM YOU IN SIRE?
3:51:44PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: I BELIEVE IT'S THE WEEK BEFORE WHEN
3:51:47PM THE AGENDA COMES OUT.
3:51:49PM I DON'T KNOW.
3:51:51PM SOMETIMES THERE ARE SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
3:51:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT GENERALLY IT'S FRIDAY IF I'M NOT
3:51:55PM MISTAKEN.
3:51:56PM THERE IS CURRENTLY NO REAL STICK, AS YOU WERE, CARROT AND
3:52:05PM STICK, THERE'S NO -- NOTHING THAT REALLY REQUIRES SOMEONE TO
3:52:10PM HAVE SOMETHING IN BY A CERTAIN TIME, IS THERE?
3:52:14PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THERE IS A CUTOFF FOR WHEN YOU WOULD
3:52:19PM HAVE TO WALK IN A CERTAIN ITEM, BUT I WOULD SAY AS EARLY AS
3:52:25PM POSSIBLE.
3:52:26PM IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE CHAIR.
3:52:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXACTLY.
3:52:30PM I'M SAYING THAT SEVERAL OF THESE THINGS WERE NOT AVAILABLE
3:52:33PM ON SIRE FOR US TO PREVIEW OR FOR THE PUBLIC.
3:52:36PM THAT WAS JUST A QUESTION.
3:52:37PM SORRY, A LITTLE OFF TOPIC.
3:52:39PM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: I HAVE SULING HERE.
3:52:42PM >> HI.
3:52:43PM I WAS LISTENING IN THE BACK.
3:52:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
3:52:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
3:52:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MS. SHIRLEY, YOU ARE THE SWEETEST LADY I
3:52:54PM KNOW, HUMBLE AS CAN BE, BUT YOU NEED MORE STAFF OVER THERE.
3:52:58PM YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE WHO HAS BEEN OUT FOR ALMOST TWO AND A
3:53:00PM HALF, MAYBE THREE YEARS.
3:53:02PM THAT'S A SLOT THAT'S DOWN.
3:53:03PM THAT IS A LOT DOWN.
3:53:06PM CITY IS GROWING.
3:53:07PM PUBLIC RECORDS, PEOPLE ARE COMING IN MORE FREQUENTLY FOR THE
3:53:10PM CLERK'S OFFICE.
3:53:11PM YOU HAVE WORKERS WHO DO EXTRA FOR THIS COUNCIL.
3:53:15PM I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THEM ALL.
3:53:16PM I KNOW HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS, BUT YOU NEED MORE STAFF,
3:53:22PM MS. SHIRLEY.
3:53:23PM THE CITY HAS GROWN, AND YOU NEED SOME MORE HELP OVER THERE.
3:53:29PM I WATCHED IT.
3:53:33PM I'VE WATCHED THE LADIES WORK.
3:53:34PM I'VE WATCHED THEIR WORK.
3:53:35PM AGAIN, YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE WHO HAS BEEN OUT FOR A LONG
3:53:38PM TIME.
3:53:38PM THAT'S A SLOT THAT SOMEONE COULD BE DOING SOME WORK.
3:53:42PM IT'S YOUR DEPARTMENT AND I HAVE TO RESPECT THAT, BUT I HAVE
3:53:48PM TO LOOK AT WHAT I SEE AND ALSO WHAT I HEAR.
3:53:53PM FOR ME TO GET THE JOB DONE THAT THIS COUNCIL REALLY NEEDS, I
3:53:59PM TRULY BELIEVE YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE.
3:54:01PM I'M GOING TO STAND BY THAT.
3:54:03PM BUT IT'S YOUR DEPARTMENT.
3:54:04PM YOU WORK IT EVERY DAY, BUT I KNOW WHAT I HEAR.
3:54:06PM I KNOW WHAT I SEE.
3:54:08PM I'M GOING TO SAY IT THAT MAYBE OTHERS WON'T SAY IT, BUT I'M
3:54:12PM IN FAVOR THAT YOU GET SOME MORE PEOPLE OVER THERE TO HELP
3:54:16PM YOU IN THAT DEPARTMENT OVER THERE, AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE
3:54:18PM STAFF MEMBER OUT THAT LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
3:54:22PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
3:54:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
3:54:24PM ANYBODY ELSE?
3:54:24PM ANYBODY ELSE?
3:54:25PM YES, MA'AM.
3:54:28PM >> SULING LUCAS, DEPUTY CITY CLERK.
3:54:30PM TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, COUNCIL DID
3:54:35PM MAKE A MOTION A WHILE BACK TO HAVE STAFF SUBMIT ANY
3:54:37PM PowerPoints OR MEMORANDUMS THE THURSDAY BEFORE THE DRAFT IS
3:54:40PM RELEASED, WHICH THAT FRIDAY THE DRAFT IS RELEASED.
3:54:44PM I CAN STAY ADMINISTRATION STAFF HAS BEEN VERY GOOD AT
3:54:47PM SUBMITTING THOSE DOCUMENTS.
3:54:49PM THERE ARE TIMES THAT THEY HAVE LAST-MINUTE DOCUMENTS THAT
3:54:51PM NEED TO BE SUBMITTED AND THAT'S WHY IT DOES NOT GET TO US
3:54:54PM AND INTO SIRE.
3:54:55PM I CAN SAY THEY HAVE BEEN VERY DILIGENT IN GETTING THOSE
3:54:58PM DOCUMENTS TO US.
3:55:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:55:02PM I KNOW BECAUSE I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT FOLKS, AND IT HAS COME
3:55:08PM IN FRONT OF COUNCIL BEFORE, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY
3:55:11PM INTERESTING ON A DAY WE ONLY HAD TEN, YEAH, WELL, TEN
3:55:14PM THINGS, THAT TWO OF THEM WERE MISSING FROM LIKE PREVIEW AND
3:55:18PM THINGS LIKE THAT.
3:55:20PM NOT YOUR FAULT, OBVIOUSLY.
3:55:21PM BUT JUST MAYBE A GOOD TIME TO REMIND STAFF THAT IT IS REALLY
3:55:27PM HELPFUL FOR US.
3:55:30PM ACTUALLY, REALLY SPEEDS UP THINGS.
3:55:33PM WE HAVE TO ASK FEWER QUESTIONS IF WE'RE PREPARED IN ADVANCE.
3:55:37PM BECAUSE OFTENTIMES THEN WE CAN HAVE OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED
3:55:40PM IN ADVANCE.
3:55:40PM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE.
3:55:43PM THANK YOU BOTH.
3:55:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:55:45PM WOULD THIS ALSO BE SUFFICIENT FOR NUMBER TEN OR IS THAT A
3:55:50PM SEPARATE DISCUSSION?
3:55:51PM REGARDING STAFF REPORTS.
3:55:54PM ANYBODY?
3:56:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE DOWN TO FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
3:56:02PM YOU HAD A SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING ON JANUARY 10.
3:56:04PM I PROVIDED YOU THE MINUTES YESTERDAY OF THAT.
3:56:09PM THERE WAS NO OFFICIAL ACTION TAKEN.
3:56:12PM I WILL POINT OUT, COUNCIL, THAT IF YOU LOOK AT FEBRUARY'S
3:56:18PM MEETING, FEBRUARY 2nd HAS 13 STAFF REPORTS ON IT.
3:56:25PM THE WORKSHOP ON THE 23rd OF FEBRUARY HAS 14 ITEMS, AND I
3:56:38PM UNDERSTAND THAT TWO OF THEM MIGHT BE CONTINUED.
3:56:40PM AGAIN, WHEN YOU HAVE ON THE 23rd OF FEBRUARY, JUST AS YOU
3:56:47PM HAVE TONIGHT, YOU HAVE IN AN HOUR YOU HAVE YOUR EVENING
3:56:51PM MEETING STARTED.
3:56:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S A BUSY PLACE.
3:56:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CERTAINLY IS.
3:56:56PM THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MINUTES THAT
3:57:01PM THE WAY, IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO STRUCTURE THEIR MEETINGS AND
3:57:04PM COUNCIL ENFORCES THOSE DECISIONS, YOU CAN DO AWAY WITH THE
3:57:11PM COMMENDATIONS ON A SEPARATE DAY AND THE CHAIR HAD RAISED
3:57:16PM THIS, THEY COULD BE LIMITED TO THREE COMMENDATIONS AT LET'S
3:57:20PM SAY 10 MINUTES EACH, TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES EACH TOTAL.
3:57:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YEAH, RIGHT.
3:57:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THEN THERE IS AN
3:57:29PM ADVANTAGE TO THAT -- WE HAVE ALMOST A FULL COUNCIL.
3:57:35PM MR. CHAIRMAN, I WAS JUST DISCUSSING THE CONCEPT THAT WAS
3:57:39PM RAISED AT THE SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING ABOUT RETURNING
3:57:42PM COMMENDATIONS TO A REGULAR MEETING DAY, LIMITING THE AMOUNT
3:57:47PM OF COMMENDATIONS, LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF TIME, PERHAPS
3:57:50PM CREATING DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF COMMENDATIONS AND HAVING A
3:57:55PM CERTAIN CRITERIA PERHAPS AND HAVE DIFFERENT FACETS PERHAPS.
3:58:02PM A DIFFERENT KIND OF RECOGNITION FOR OFF-SITE OR
3:58:05PM COMMENDATIONS.
3:58:05PM BUT FOR IN-PERSON COMMENDATIONS, TO BE ABLE TO RETURN THEM
3:58:10PM TO A REGULAR MEETING DAY AND YOU HAD RAISED THE ISSUE, MR.
3:58:13PM CHAIR, THIS WAS YOUR MOTION, NUMBER 9, TO TALK ABOUT THE
3:58:18PM CONCEPT OF HAVING A SEPARATE DAY FOR STAFF REPORTS.
3:58:23PM THE CLERK MADE A REPORT ON THAT WHILE YOU WERE OUT, AND I
3:58:29PM BELIEVE -- I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO RECAP THAT FOR
3:58:31PM THE CHAIR, BUT THE POINT IS ULTIMATELY, COUNCIL, IT'S YOUR
3:58:41PM MEETING, AND IT'S YOUR DECISION HOW YOU WANT TO CONDUCT IT.
3:58:45PM SO THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TURN IT BACK TO THE CHAIR.
3:58:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:58:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, WHY DON'T WE MOVE -- WHY DID WE
3:58:54PM MOVE COMMENDATIONS TO A SEPARATE DAY?
3:58:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, BECAUSE COMMENDATIONS WERE BECOMING
3:58:59PM LENGTHY, BECAUSE ALSO LENGTHY IN NUMBER AND ALSO LENGTHY IN
3:59:04PM TIME.
3:59:05PM THERE WAS ALSO THE CONCEPT OF THE WAY YOU HAVE IT NOW, YOU
3:59:08PM HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON A MONTHLY BASIS, WHEREAS YOU
3:59:11PM HAVE THE FIREFIGHTERS ON A QUARTERLY BASIS, AND I UNDERSTAND
3:59:15PM ATU, IS THAT BIMONTHLY OR MONTHLY?
3:59:19PM IT'S BIMONTHLY.
3:59:20PM EVERY ONE OF THEM IS ON A DIFFERENT SCHEDULE WHICH AFFECTS
3:59:22PM HOW YOUR MEETINGS FLOW.
3:59:24PM THE ADDITION OF THE COMMUNITY RECOGNITION FOR EACH
3:59:30PM RECIPIENT --
3:59:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BEFORE WE GET TO COMMENDATIONS, LET'S JUST
3:59:37PM PUT A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION IN THERE FROM SOME
3:59:40PM ORGANIZATION WHICH WILL PROBABLY TAKE 20 MINUTES.
3:59:43PM LET'S PUT THAT IN THERE FIRST.
3:59:45PM THEN LET'S GO WITH THE COMMENDATIONS.
3:59:54PM MAYBE ABOUT 10:30.
3:59:56PM BY 10:30 RIGHT.
3:59:58PM SO THAT'S WHY -- USE THE WORD COMMON SENSE, BUT, AGAIN, THE
4:00:05PM CITY HAS GROWN, TIMES HAVE CHANGED.
4:00:08PM IF YOU BRING THE COMMENDATIONS BACK HOW IT USED TO BE, WE'RE
4:00:16PM GOING TO BE IN THE SAME SITUATION.
4:00:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT NECESSARILY.
4:00:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DISAGREE BECAUSE THE TIME LIMIT, BECAUSE
4:00:22PM YOU CAN'T GAUGE HOW LONG THE TIME WILL BE IF YOU HAVE A
4:00:26PM PRESENTATION OR MAYBE TWO PRESENTATIONS, AND THEN
4:00:29PM COMMENDATIONS.
4:00:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENT.
4:00:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: PUBLIC COMMENT.
4:00:36PM FORGOT ABOUT THAT.
4:00:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE VARIABLES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL
4:00:41PM OVER.
4:00:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LOOK WHAT TIME IT IS RIGHT NOW.
4:00:43PM 4:00.
4:00:44PM WE START AT 5:01 TONIGHT, RIGHT?
4:00:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
4:00:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GOT LUCKY THAT WE DON'T HAVE LONGER
4:00:50PM ITEMS BECAUSE WE WOULD BE LATE.
4:00:54PM WE WERE HERE UNTIL AFTER 6:00 THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE.
4:00:59PM IF WE WOULD HAVE HAD A NIGHT MEETING -- WE'VE GOT TO WAKE UP
4:01:05PM PEOPLE.
4:01:05PM I KNOW WE'RE ELECTED TO WORK AND UNFORTUNATELY THE WORKLOAD
4:01:10PM HAS GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT MORE NOW, UNFORTUNATELY.
4:01:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT GOING TO DISAGREE TOTALLY WITH
4:01:18PM YOU.
4:01:18PM WE USED TO HAVE THE ITEMS DONE INDIVIDUALLY.
4:01:22PM THERE WAS NO 40 TO 57.
4:01:26PM YOU HAD TO VOTE ON EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY.
4:01:28PM AND WE NEVER LEFT HERE PAST THAN 1:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.
4:01:32PM THINGS ARE DIFFERENT.
4:01:33PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
4:01:33PM TECHNOLOGY.
4:01:34PM IN FACT, THE CLERK'S OFFICE -- WE HAD TO HELP THEM WITH THE
4:01:42PM MACHINE TO PRINT OUT THE AGENDA.
4:01:44PM IT WAS DONE ON --
4:01:48PM >> MIMEOGRAPH.
4:01:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YEAH, WE HAD TO DO IT RIGHT HERE.
4:01:52PM I CAN UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE.
4:01:54PM NOW IT'S FASTER AND IT'S LONGER.
4:01:55PM SO WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS.
4:01:57PM WHAT I'M SAYING IS, WE TAKE SOMETHING THAT SHOULD TAKE AN
4:02:02PM HOUR AND IT TAKES THREE HOURS.
4:02:03PM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT TO A POINT, BUT NOT EVERYTHING SHOULD
4:02:06PM TAKE THREE HOURS.
4:02:07PM THE COMMENDATION THING, IF I WAS TO GET A COMMENDATION FROM
4:02:14PM THIS COUNCIL, I DON'T KNOW WHO IN THE HELL SIGNED IT.
4:02:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:02:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WHAT MS. FOXX-KNOWLES' RECOMMENDATION WAS,
4:02:26PM WAS TO TAKE AWAY WORKSHOPS AND PUT STAFF REPORTS THERE SINCE
4:02:29PM MOST STAFF REPORTS TURN INTO WORKSHOPS ANYWAY.
4:02:31PM I DON'T THINK IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA.
4:02:36PM I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA.
4:02:39PM MY RECOMMENDATION FOR COMMENDATIONS IS AND PRESENTATIONS IS
4:02:44PM WE HAVE A TIMER.
4:02:46PM WE OUGHT TO USE IT.
4:02:48PM FIVE MINUTES AND THEN FIVE MINUTES FOR US TO, YOU KNOW, SAY
4:02:54PM GREAT AND ASK SOME QUESTIONS.
4:02:56PM AND THE OTHER THING WE DO WITH COMMENDATIONS IS WE DO LET
4:03:00PM THEM GO OUT LONG AND THEN EACH OF US HAS TO SAY SOMETHING.
4:03:03PM THAT'S NEW.
4:03:04PM WE DIDN'T DO THAT BEFORE.
4:03:05PM SO MAYBE JUST A NICE ROUND OF APPLAUSE AND WE MOVE ON.
4:03:12PM AND IF WE ONLY DO THREE AT A TIME, WE REALLY ARE MOVING
4:03:17PM THINGS ALONG.
4:03:18PM A LOT OF THESE COMMENDATIONS, WHILE WONDERFUL, CAN BE DONE
4:03:22PM OFF-SITE FOR CERTAIN EVENTS, AND I ALSO THINK WE TALKED
4:03:26PM ABOUT LIMITING THE NUMBER OF COMMENDATIONS THAT A COUNCIL
4:03:29PM MEMBER CAN GIVE OUT IN A YEAR, WHICH WOULD THEN ALLOW ALL OF
4:03:32PM THOSE PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR WAY HERE.
4:03:35PM SO I THINK -- I THINK WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO IT WITH TIME
4:03:38PM MANAGEMENT AND TAKING AWAY EXTRANEOUS CONVERSATION.
4:03:45PM HOWEVER, MS. FOXX-KNOWLES GAVE ME AN IDEA.
4:03:52PM WE ALREADY HAVE THAT COMMENDATION DAY.
4:03:58PM RIGHT NOW, WE DID A LOT OF MAKEUP FOR LAND USE ISSUES.
4:04:03PM WE MAY HAVE TO DO A FEW MAKEUP COUNCIL SESSIONS TO GET THIS
4:04:08PM STUFF DOWN TO A REASONABLE SPACE.
4:04:12PM AND I THINK THAT COMMENDATION DAY SPACE MIGHT BE GOOD FOR
4:04:17PM TRYING TO GET SOME OF THIS STUFF OUT OF THE WAY.
4:04:20PM DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE TO TRY TO CONSOLIDATE A LITTLE BIT
4:04:25PM AND THEN MAYBE, LIKE SHE SAID, HOLD THOSE, THAT FOR A
4:04:31PM SPECIAL CALLED MEETING ON SOME OF THESE TOPICS.
4:04:39PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
4:04:42PM WE WERE ALSO ASKED TO GIVE INPUT ON THIS.
4:04:45PM TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, AND AS SULING MENTIONED,
4:04:51PM WE ARE ENDEAVORING -- THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WORKS WITH YOU
4:04:53PM ALL AND WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT
4:04:55PM THINGS GET UPLOADED INTO THE AGENDA AND INTO SIRE SO YOU ALL
4:04:59PM HAVE THE APPROPRIATE BACKUP AT LEAST A WEEK IN ADVANCE.
4:05:03PM WE REALLY DO.
4:05:04PM EVERY WEEK, WE HAVE A LEGAL DEPARTMENT MEETING WHERE A GOOD
4:05:07PM PORTION OF THE MEETING IS GOING THROUGH ALL YOUR MOTIONS,
4:05:10PM GOING THROUGH ALL THE MATTERS THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA, TRYING
4:05:13PM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRACKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET
4:05:15PM THE ITEMS DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION SO THAT IT CAN GET
4:05:19PM UPLOADED SO YOU ALL HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT IT IN ADVANCE OF
4:05:22PM THE MEETING.
4:05:23PM THE ONE CONCERN THAT WE DO HAVE IF WE ADD ANOTHER MEETING
4:05:26PM WHERE WE'RE DOING STAFF REPORTS, WORKSHOP ITEMS, THAT'S
4:05:32PM GOING TO BE ANOTHER DEADLINE IN THE PROCESS WHERE WE'RE
4:05:36PM ALREADY HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME SOMETIMES KEEPING UP WITH
4:05:40PM THE DEADLINES FOR THE WORKLOAD THAT'S HERE.
4:05:41PM I JUST WANT COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF THAT.
4:05:44PM WE'LL WORK AS HARD AS WE CAN AND WORK WITH YOU AS MUCH AS WE
4:05:47PM CAN, BUT THAT IS JUST AN ISSUE THAT WE WANTED TO BRING
4:05:50PM FORWARD TO YOU ALL.
4:05:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:05:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
4:05:56PM A COUPLE OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, AND THE NEXT ONE DOWN, I
4:05:59PM TALKED ABOUT OR BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT'S HERE, ABOUT
4:06:05PM STAFF REPORTS AND KIND OF FOLLOWING THE RULES THAT WE HAVE,
4:06:09PM WHICH ARE VERY DIFFICULT TO FOLLOW, SO I'M NOT -- CHAIRMAN
4:06:13PM CITRO DOES A GREAT JOB.
4:06:15PM WHEN I WAS CHAIR, I FOUND IT HARD TO LIMIT IT WITHIN THERE,
4:06:15PM BUT IF WE REFORMED THE RULES TO ACCEPT REALITY AND SAY STAFF
4:06:21PM REPORTS AREN'T GOING TO BE FIVE MINUTES, LET'S SAY TEN
4:06:21PM MINUTES TOTAL WITH ONE OR TWO MINUTES OF COMMENTING.
4:06:26PM IF IT GOES FURTHER THAN THAT, THEN IT SHOULD BE A WORKSHOP.
4:06:29PM WE CAN DO THAT.
4:06:30PM YES, THE CITY IS GROWING A BIG DEAL, SIGNIFICANTLY, BUT
4:06:34PM COUNCIL MEETINGS HAVE GROWN FAR VAST BEYOND WHAT THE CITY IS
4:06:38PM GROWING.
4:06:39PM I ALWAYS LIKE TO USE SAYINGS WITH WAIST SIZES.
4:06:43PM IF A YEAR AGO YOU WERE A SIZE 36 AND NOW YOU'RE A SIZE 42,
4:06:46PM THE ANSWER TO THAT ISN'T TO BUY SIZE 44 PANTS, IT'S TO MAYBE
4:06:50PM GO BACK TO 36, 38, OR 40, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
4:06:53PM THAT'S THE WAY THAT I SEE THIS.
4:06:55PM AND THE BIGGEST, THE SADDEST THING OF IT ALL, A LOT OF THE
4:06:59PM PUBLIC THAT HAS BUSINESS BEFORE COUNCIL FOR WHICH THEY ARE
4:07:01PM PAYING ADVOCATES AND ATTORNEYS AT THREE, FOUR HUNDRED
4:07:04PM DOLLARS AN HOUR, ARE SITTING HERE WAITING SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT,
4:07:08PM NINE HOURS AT A TIME.
4:07:09PM I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANOTHER COUNCIL DAY.
4:07:11PM I THINK THAT WILL ONLY -- I THINK WE'LL FILL UP THAT DAY AND
4:07:14PM IT WILL COME BACK AND STILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.
4:07:16PM I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TO IMPLEMENT REASONABLE RULES,
4:07:22PM ESPECIALLY FOR STAFF REPORTS.
4:07:25PM I THINK THAT IS THE MAJOR ISSUE IS STAFF REPORTS.
4:07:27PM WE IMPLEMENT REASONABLE RULES FOR STAFF REPORTS, LIMIT THE
4:07:30PM NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS, REASONABLY LIMIT THE TIME FOR STAFF
4:07:33PM REPORTS WITH ACKNOWLEDGMENT THAT SOME WILL BE HOT-TICKET
4:07:37PM ITEMS AND I THINK WE ALL RESPECT THAT, AND THEN WITH
4:07:39PM COMMENDATIONS, LIMIT THE NUMBER OF COMMENDATIONS WE HAVE IN
4:07:42PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS TO WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS FIVE, WHATEVER IT
4:07:49PM IS, THEY ARE ALL SPECIAL, BUT UNIQUELY SPECIAL AND WHATNOT,
4:07:54PM THEN I THINK THAT WILL DO THE JOB.
4:07:56PM AND WE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CHAIRMAN CITRO, WHOEVER THE
4:08:00PM CHAIR WILL BE AT THAT TIME, WILL HAVE A VERY DIFFICULT JOB
4:08:03PM IN IMPLEMENTING IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE ON HIS OR
4:08:06PM HER PART MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE KEEP IN LINE TO NEW RULES,
4:08:10PM WHICH IS NOT EASY.
4:08:11PM BUT I THINK ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING, AGAIN, YOU'RE A SIZE 38
4:08:17PM A YEAR AGO, YOU'RE A SIZE 42 NOW AND THAT'S BUYING SIZE 46
4:08:21PM PANTS.
4:08:23PM YOU'RE GOING TO FILL THEM UP AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE A SIZE
4:08:24PM 48 BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.
4:08:25PM I AM THEIR MAN.
4:08:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:08:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ACTUALLY PREFER THE ANALOGY OF IF YOU PUT
4:08:32PM ANOTHER LANE ON THE HIGHWAY, IT WILL BE FILLED.
4:08:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY.
4:08:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DON'T SPEND THE MONEY TO ADD ANOTHER LANE.
4:08:46PM SPEND THE MONEY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE IT MORE WISELY.
4:08:50PM YOU REMINDED OF A GOOD POINT, TOO, THAT IF WE MOVE THE STAFF
4:08:53PM REPORTS TO THE AFTERNOON AND THEN THAT WAY THE FOLKS WHO ARE
4:08:57PM WAITING CAN GET THAT STUFF DONE, IF WE DO HAVE A STAFF
4:09:00PM REPORT THAT POSSIBLY GOES A LITTLE BIT LONGER, WE HAVE MORE
4:09:04PM WIGGLE ROOM IN TERMS OF TIME AND WE'RE NOT WASTING THE
4:09:08PM PUBLIC'S TIME.
4:09:09PM AND I THINK THAT COULD ALSO HAND IN HAND REALLY HELP.
4:09:13PM SO THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.
4:09:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. SHIRLEY, I HAD RADIO EAR BACK ON MY
4:09:32PM CONFERENCE CALL.
4:09:32PM ONE EAR WAS THE CONFERENCE CALL, ONE EAR WAS BACK.
4:09:36PM I KNOW THE EXPENDITURES AND I KNOW THE STAFFING TIME ARE
4:09:38PM GOING TO BE A BIG DRAIN ON THE CITY AND YOUR OFFICE, LEGAL
4:09:43PM OFFICE.
4:09:45PM OF COURSE, LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT I.T.
4:09:47PM LET'S NOT FORGET ABOUT EVERYBODY THAT'S INVOLVED FOR PUTTING
4:09:52PM ON THESE MEETINGS.
4:09:54PM HOWEVER, WE'RE A BIG CITY, AND WE BETTER START HAVING A
4:10:00PM BIG-CITY MENTALITY.
4:10:01PM SIZE 30 IN A 34, I LIKE TO SAY PUTTING TEN POUNDS OF MUD
4:10:09PM INTO A FIVE-POUND SACK.
4:10:12PM IT JUST DON'T FIT.
4:10:13PM WE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.
4:10:20PM COMMENDATIONS, WE DO THOSE TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL GOOD.
4:10:24PM WE HAVE FIRE.
4:10:24PM WE HAVE POLICE.
4:10:25PM WE HAVE ATU.
4:10:26PM THAT'S THEIR TIME.
4:10:28PM THAT'S THEIR TIME TO SHINE.
4:10:30PM I WOULD AGREE, IF NEED BE, TO GET THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT
4:10:36PM THERE WAITING FOR THEIR CASES TO BE HEARD TO MOVE THEM TO
4:10:39PM THE FRONT, FINE.
4:10:40PM I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
4:10:40PM BUT WE NEED TO CHANGE IT IN OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES.
4:10:46PM DON'T CIRCUMVENT THE RULES AND PROCEDURES; CHANGE THEM.
4:10:54PM WE ALSO NEED TO KEEP OUR DISCUSSIONS ON WHAT'S AT HAND AND
4:11:01PM THAT IS OUR AGENDA.
4:11:01PM MAYBE INSTEAD OF HAVING FIVE MINUTES FOR EVERYBODY TO
4:11:04PM DISCUSS SOMETHING, WHAT'S ON OUR AGENDA, LET'S HAVE IT CUT
4:11:08PM DOWN TO TWO MINUTES.
4:11:09PM THAT WAY WE CAN KEEP OUR CITY MOVING, KEEP OUR AGENDA
4:11:16PM MOVING.
4:11:17PM I DON'T MIND.
4:11:19PM I'M A FULL-TIME WORKER HERE.
4:11:21PM I'LL SPEND SEVEN DAYS A WEEK HERE, BUT I KNOW THAT
4:11:24PM MS. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES IS NOT GOING TO WANT TO DO THAT.
4:11:27PM I KNOW THAT I.T. IS NOT GOING TO DO THAT.
4:11:31PM IF WE CAN CONDENSE OUR TIME SO WE CAN STICK TO THE AGENDA I
4:11:34PM THINK WE CAN SHAVE A LOT OF TIME.
4:11:37PM ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
4:11:39PM ACKNOWLEDGMENTS?
4:11:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: ARE WE ENDING THE MEETING?
4:11:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
4:11:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY DO WE NEED TO MAKE
4:11:54PM SOME SORT OF MOTION?
4:11:55PM BECAUSE IF WE DO, LET'S DO IT.
4:11:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF COUNCIL IS PREPARED FOR IT.
4:12:00PM CERTAINLY.
4:12:00PM MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE RULES NOW
4:12:03PM STATE STAFF REPORTS COME BEFORE YOUR 9:30 HEARINGS.
4:12:06PM IF IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO HAVE THEM MOVED TO THE
4:12:09PM AFTERNOON, YOU COULD SET THEM FOR THE AFTERNOON.
4:12:11PM IF THEY HAVE TO BE MOVED UP SOONER, WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE
4:12:13PM PAST.
4:12:14PM THE CHAIR HAS MADE --
4:12:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT LET'S CHANGE THE
4:12:20PM RULES OF PROCEDURES.
4:12:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S FINE.
4:12:23PM AS A MATTER OF FACT, DISCUSSING THAT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
4:12:25PM BUT THE OTHER THING IS ALSO THE LIMITS.
4:12:28PM COUNCIL, I WILL TELL YOU, FRANKLY, HAVING A WORKSHOP AGENDA,
4:12:31PM FOR INSTANCE, WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE 23rd, WE'RE HAVING THE
4:12:35PM NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS COMING UP ON FEBRUARY 2nd.
4:12:39PM YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT LIMITING THE NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS
4:12:42PM AND SPECIFICALLY YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT THE LIMITS ON
4:12:46PM INDIVIDUALS -- INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS MAKING IN-PERSON
4:12:50PM COMMENDATIONS.
4:12:51PM SAME THING WITH PRESENTATIONS, THOUGH.
4:12:52PM COUNCIL MEMBERS SOMETIMES ARE ASKED BY ORGANIZATIONS TO BE
4:12:55PM ABLE TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND THAT TURNS IT, AND THERE'S
4:13:00PM NOTHING -- THERE'S NO JUDGMENT INVOLVED ABOUT THIS, BUT
4:13:03PM PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, IT ENGENDERS A CONVERSATION AMONG THE
4:13:07PM COUNCIL MEMBERS AND SOMETIMES COUNCIL MEMBERS TAKE SEVERAL
4:13:09PM MINUTES APIECE TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE ABOUT THIS
4:13:12PM ORGANIZATION OR ABOUT WHAT IS THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OR GOALS
4:13:14PM ARE OR WHAT THE CITY'S RELATIONSHIP IS.
4:13:17PM AND THAT ADDS TIME TO THE MEETING.
4:13:18PM SO MAYBE A REFLECTION OF BEING ABLE TO MANAGE YOUR TIME, AND
4:13:24PM THAT IS A VERY TOUGH JOB WITH COUNCIL, BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL,
4:13:26PM YES, YOU HAVE A FIVE-MINUTE RULE, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A
4:13:30PM COUNCIL THAT'S VERY ENGAGED IN DIALOGUE WITH EACH OTHER AND
4:13:34PM ALSO ASKING QUESTIONS AND GETTING ANSWERS WHICH THEN -- AND
4:13:37PM THAT CAME UP DURING THE SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING, GENERATE
4:13:39PM MORE COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY
4:13:43PM OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE TO TALK AMONGST YOURSELVES AND TO HEAR
4:13:47PM WHAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER QUESTIONS ARE AND WHAT THE ANSWERS
4:13:50PM ARE.
4:13:51PM IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT ROLE THAT THE CHAIR HAS TO BE ABLE TO
4:13:56PM ENFORCE THESE THINGS.
4:13:57PM BUT I WILL CERTAINLY MAKE THE RULES CONSISTENT WITH WHAT
4:13:59PM COUNCIL WANTS.
4:14:00PM YOU CAN ACTUALLY, AND I'VE READ OTHER JURISDICTIONS' RULES,
4:14:05PM SOME OF THEM DO ACTUALLY LIMIT THE NUMBER OF COMMENDATIONS
4:14:09PM OR STAFF REPORTS AND THE LIKE.
4:14:10PM SO IT'S NOT UNHEARD OF.
4:14:12PM BUT THE THING IS, THIS COUNCIL IS ALSO VERY ACCOMMODATING TO
4:14:16PM EACH OTHER WHEN MOTIONS ARE MADE.
4:14:18PM AND THE QUESTION THEN IS THEN IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE AN
4:14:22PM EXCEPTION.
4:14:23PM FOR INSTANCE, EVEN WITH THE NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS.
4:14:25PM SOMETHING IS VERY PRESSING TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
4:14:29PM YOU CANNOT WAIT TILL THE NEXT MONTH TO HAVE THAT HEARD
4:14:33PM BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE HEARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
4:14:35PM SO THERE ARE A LOT OF VARIABLES, AS THE CHAIR HAD SAID, THAT
4:14:39PM GO INTO THIS MEETING, BUT I'M HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE
4:14:44PM RULES CONSISTENT WHAT DOES COUNCIL'S DESIRE IS.
4:14:48PM ONCE AGAIN, AS I ALWAYS SAY, IT'S YOUR MEETING.
4:14:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:14:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION.
4:14:53PM I'LL JUST TRY.
4:14:54PM SEE HOW IT GOES.
4:14:55PM I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY COME BACK TO
4:15:00PM US WITH CHANGING THE RULES AND THE PROCEDURES, WHATEVER WE
4:15:06PM NEED TO DO, TO REQUIRE, TO ALLOW FIVE MINUTES FOR SPECIAL
4:15:11PM PRESENTATIONS AT THE BEGINNING WITH FIVE MINUTES ADDITIONAL
4:15:15PM FOR COUNCIL COMMENTS.
4:15:18PM ONLY THREE TEN-MINUTE COMMENDATIONS FOR EACH MEETING WITH NO
4:15:23PM COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL, AND THEN TO MOVE NO MORE THAN TEN
4:15:30PM STAFF REPORTS AFTER OTHER CITY BUSINESS HAS BEEN FINISHED.
4:15:35PM >> SECOND.
4:15:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTION.
4:15:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:15:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I RESPECT THE MOTION, IN REALITY, THAT'S
4:15:47PM NOT GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE COMMENDATIONS AND
4:15:51PM YOU HAVE POLICE OR FIRE UP THERE, ATU, YOU HAVE THE
4:15:59PM PRESENTER TALKING.
4:16:01PM YOU HAVE THE CHIEF OR FIRE CHIEF GIVING INFORMATION.
4:16:05PM THEN YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL RECIPIENT TALKING.
4:16:09PM THEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE LINED UP ON THAT
4:16:12PM WALL TO GIVE SOME PRESENTATIONS.
4:16:15PM FIVE MINUTES WILL NOT BE ADEQUATE.
4:16:18PM I DON'T THINK YOU CAN PUT A TIME ON HOW LONG THE
4:16:21PM PRESENTATION OF THE COMMENDATIONS WILL BE.
4:16:23PM BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT THE TIME YOU PUT, YOU COULD EXCEED
4:16:25PM THAT.
4:16:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE YOU GO, I AGREE WITH YOU.
4:16:28PM THE PRESENTATIONS IN MY OPINION ARE NOT WHAT IS
4:16:32PM TIME-CONSUMING.
4:16:33PM WE NEED TO REIN BACK ON OURSELVES.
4:16:36PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:16:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS A VERY GOOD POINT.
4:16:38PM I BELIEVE SOMEONE IN OUR SPECIAL SESSION EVEN BROUGHT UP THE
4:16:42PM IDEA OF THOSE GIFTS BEING GIVEN AFTERWARDS, MAYBE DOWN
4:16:47PM STAIRS IN THE SISTER CITIES ROOM SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE
4:16:50PM ALL HAVE TO SIT THROUGH.
4:16:52PM AGAIN, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, NOT IN THE INTEREST OF
4:16:57PM NOT CELEBRATING THESE FOLKS.
4:17:00PM BUT WE REALLY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO REIN IT IN SO THAT WE CAN
4:17:07PM GET THE CITY'S BUSINESS DONE AND HAVING A WHOLE OTHER DAY
4:17:11PM MEANS MORE STAFF, MEANS MORE ALL OF THIS.
4:17:13PM SO I WOULD AT LEAST LIKE TO GIVE IT A TRY AND SEE HOW IT
4:17:17PM GOES.
4:17:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:17:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M GOING TO VOTE FOR WHATEVER IS OUT BECAUSE
4:17:21PM I THINK MARTY WILL BE TALKING WITH US.
4:17:23PM I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S WISE TO CUT OUT THE GIFTS.
4:17:26PM IT'S LITERALLY PROBABLY THREE MINUTES.
4:17:29PM AGAIN, I RESPECT THE SENTIMENTS 110%.
4:17:32PM I SUGGEST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME WE MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD,
4:17:34PM MR. SHELBY WORKS ON IT, IT COMES BACK TO US AND HE CAN TALK
4:17:37PM TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS ON WHAT THEY LIKE AND THEN
4:17:40PM COME BACK WITH SOMETHING.
4:17:41PM I'LL VOTE WITH WHATEVER.
4:17:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU SECONDING COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S
4:17:44PM MOTION?
4:17:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
4:17:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION --
4:17:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:17:48PM TIMEWISE, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
4:17:50PM IN APPLICATION, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
4:17:55PM I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT.
4:17:57PM I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, NOT ONLY THAT, FIRST WE HAD THE
4:18:01PM MANAGERS AND THEIR DEPARTMENT HEADS IN THE BACK.
4:18:05PM THEN THEY WANTED TO COME TO THE FRONT SO THEY COULD GO BACK
4:18:08PM TO WORK.
4:18:08PM BY THE TIME WE GET TO THEM, THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT WORK.
4:18:12PM WE'RE NOT FACILITATING WHAT WE SAY OURSELVES.
4:18:16PM I DON'T KNOW HOW OR WHY, BUT I'M WILLING TRY SOMETHING TO
4:18:19PM LOOK AT IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO WORK.
4:18:21PM I'M NOT TRYING TO BE PESSIMIST IN ANY WAY, JUST REAL
4:18:25PM FACTUAL.
4:18:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:18:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT CAN WE AT LEAST AGREE IF WE CUT DOWN OUR
4:18:29PM COMMENTS WE'RE CUTTING TEN MINUTES OUT?
4:18:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.
4:18:33PM I AGREE WITH THAT PART.
4:18:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'LL WORKSHOP IT MORE.
4:18:36PM AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMETHING ON PAPER.
4:18:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'RE TALKING.
4:18:43PM WE HAVE A MOTION, MR. SHELBY WILL BRING IT BACK TO US.
4:18:48PM HE CAN DISCUSS IT WITH US INDIVIDUALLY.
4:18:50PM ANY MORE COMMENT ON THE MOTION?
4:18:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DIDN'T GIVE A DATE.
4:18:54PM WHAT DATE WOULD WORK FOR YOU?
4:18:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 2.
4:18:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
4:18:59PM MARCH 2 IT IS.
4:19:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:19:01PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:19:03PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:19:03PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
4:19:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I SAY SOMETHING REALLY FAST BECAUSE I HAVE
4:19:10PM TO LEAVE?
4:19:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HANG ON ONE SECOND.
4:19:12PM LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT THE MOTION HAS PASSED.
4:19:14PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:19:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
4:19:16PM I HAVE TO LEAVE REALLY FAST.
4:19:19PM I HAVE TO GIVE A COMMENDATION THAT I HAVE TO, IF I MAY, MAKE
4:19:22PM A REALLY QUICK MOTION.
4:19:23PM NONCONTROVERSIAL, REALLY FAST.
4:19:25PM IT'S FUNNY, I WANTED TO WAIT TO DO THIS UNTIL AFTER FILING
4:19:29PM WAS DONE BECAUSE THIS GENTLEMAN WAS RUMORED TO BE FILING FOR
4:19:32PM CITY COUNCIL, SO I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING THIS FORWARD, BUT
4:19:34PM THE TENTH ANNIVERSARY OF SHAWN HARRISON'S LAW FIRM FORMER
4:19:38PM CITY COUNCILMAN.
4:19:38PM GIVE HIM A COMMENDATION FOR TEN YEARS.
4:19:41PM JUST THAT'S IT.
4:19:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:19:43PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:19:44PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:19:45PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:19:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S NOT IN PERSON.
4:19:47PM THAT'S OFF-SITE.
4:19:49PM OFF-SITE.
4:19:50PM THANK YOU.
4:19:50PM NEW BUSINESS.
4:20:01PM IT'S SORT OF IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
4:20:04PM DO YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE DONE WITH NEW BUSINESS?
4:20:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL DO NEW BUSINESS TONIGHT.
4:20:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE STILL HAVE INFORMATION REPORTS.
4:20:15PM LET'S GO DOWN THE LINE.
4:20:16PM INFORMATION REPORTS.
4:20:19PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:20:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, SIR.
4:20:21PM I HAVE TWO, SIR.
4:20:23PM ONE ON 1/19 OF '22, AN EVENING MEETING, I MADE A MOTION TO
4:20:27PM PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO MS. LILLIAN STRINGER FOR HER
4:20:31PM RETIREMENT OF 32 YEARS OF SERVICE AT THE TAMPA HOUSING
4:20:34PM AUTHORITY AS DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC RELATIONS.
4:20:35PM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THAT COMMENDATION HERE ON COUNCIL
4:20:38PM FEBRUARY 7 OF '23.
4:20:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA,
4:20:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES?
4:20:43PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:20:44PM MIRANDA, SECONDED BY GUDES.
4:20:46PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
4:20:48PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:20:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND ONE, SIR, WE DID THIS LAST YEAR.
4:20:54PM YOUNG PEOPLE THAT WORK SO HARD TO PUT THIS TOGETHER.
4:20:57PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT COMMENDATION TO
4:20:59PM ISABEL BEQUER, A SENIOR AT ACADEMY OF HOLY NAMES FOR WINNING
4:21:05PM THE GOLD MEDAL AT USS TAMPA POST 5 ORATORICAL CONTEST AND
4:21:09PM ANOTHER COMMENDATION TO EMILY PEAKY, A SOPHOMORE AT
4:21:12PM CAMBRIDGE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL FOR WINNING THE SILVER MEDAL FOR
4:21:16PM THE USS POST 5 ORATORICAL CONTEST.
4:21:20PM TO ASSIST THE STUDENTS AND THEIR PARENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO
4:21:21PM MAKE THE PRESENTATION ON THE EVENING OF FEBRUARY 9th,
4:21:24PM 2022.
4:21:24PM WE DID THIS LAST YEAR AND IT TAKES NO MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES
4:21:28PM ON EACH ONE.
4:21:29PM THE AUDIENCE WAS IN AWE.
4:21:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT WAS GOOD.
4:21:31PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:21:33PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:21:35PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
4:21:36PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:21:37PM MOTION PASSES.
4:21:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT, SIR.
4:21:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?
4:21:40PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
4:21:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:21:43PM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO THE WOMEN'S
4:21:45PM HISTORY COMMITTEE AT THE 26th ANNUAL WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH
4:21:49PM CELEBRATION ON MARCH 1st, 2023.
4:21:51PM THAT WILL BE OFF-SITE.
4:21:53PM I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN WITH YOU ALL FOR NINE
4:21:56PM MONTHS NOW.
4:21:56PM THIS IS MY FIRST COMMENDATION.
4:22:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU'VE GOT TWO LEFT THEN.
4:22:02PM [ LAUGHTER ]
4:22:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THAT OFF-SITE?
4:22:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OFF-SITE.
4:22:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:22:07PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:22:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:22:10PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:22:11PM MOTION PASSES.
4:22:12PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:22:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT
4:22:15PM A COMMENDATION AT TAMPA PRIDE AT REGULAR SESSION OF COUNCIL
4:22:18PM MEETING MARCH 16 IN HONOR OF THE UPCOMING CELEBRATION ON
4:22:21PM MARCH 25 AND CONTINUED SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY I WAS GOING
4:22:23PM TO PRESENT IT AT THE EVENT, BUT THEY REALLY WANTED TO HAVE
4:22:27PM IT DONE AT THE REGULAR SESSION, BUT IT WILL BE QUICK.
4:22:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:22:33PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:22:34PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
4:22:36PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:22:37PM MOTION PASSES.
4:22:38PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
4:22:40PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU ARE GIVING THE PROCLAMATION TO THE
4:22:45PM KREWE OF SANTIAGO ON BEHALF OF THE MAYOR.
4:22:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FEBRUARY 2nd I BELIEVE.
4:22:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A
4:22:53PM COMMENDATION TO THE KREWE OF SANTIAGO DURING THAT
4:22:56PM PROCLAMATION PROCEEDINGS ON FEBRUARY 2nd.
4:22:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DID THAT LAST YEAR, TOO.
4:23:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE CHAIRMAN.
4:23:03PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
4:23:04PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES.
4:23:05PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:23:06PM AYE.
4:23:07PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:23:07PM ANYTHING ELSE?
4:23:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
4:23:11PM NOW WE'LL HAVE TO HEAR MR. SHELBY ABOUT THE RESOLUTION.
4:23:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE RULES OF
4:23:18PM PROCEDURE, SPECIFICALLY HANDLING REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY
4:23:22PM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
4:23:22PM IT INCLUDES NOW THE COMMUNICATIONS MEDIA TECHNOLOGY FOR
4:23:26PM QUASI-JUDICIAL.
4:23:27PM THIS WILL BE ABLE TO SAVE TIME BY NOT HAVING THE GUIDELINES.
4:23:32PM AND, WAIT, THERE'S MORE.
4:23:34PM IT ALSO INCLUDES QUASI-JUDICIAL CMT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC
4:23:42PM AND, IMPORTANTLY, IT HAS THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION WITH
4:23:46PM REQUEST TO CONTINUE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT IT WILL BE DEEMED,
4:23:50PM IF A REQUEST IS MADE, AND TWO PREVIOUS OCCASIONS IT WILL BE
4:23:55PM DEEMED WITHDRAWN AND DISMISS PETITION UNLESS WAIVE DUE TO
4:23:59PM EXTRAORDINARY AND UNAVOIDABLE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CITY
4:24:01PM COUNCIL DETERMINES IN ITS SOLE DISCRETION.
4:24:04PM SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS ADDED, NO CONTINUANCE SHALL BE
4:24:07PM GRANTED AT A QUASI-JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARING AFTER THE
4:24:09PM PETITIONER OR APPLICANT HAS COMPLETED THE INITIAL
4:24:12PM PRESENTATION.
4:24:12PM YOU WON'T BE IN THAT POSITION NOW OF HAVING TO HEAR THE
4:24:15PM WHOLE THING AND THEN HAVE A PETITIONER REQUEST A CONTINUANCE
4:24:18PM AT THE END BECAUSE IT WILL BE SET OUT IN THE RULES THAT
4:24:22PM THEY'LL KNOW IF THEY WANT TO DO IT, THEY HAVE TO DO IT UP
4:24:25PM FRONT, BUT THEY ONLY GET TWO BITES.
4:24:26PM THAT I'D LIKE TO ASK IT TO BE ADDED TO NEXT WEEK'S MEETING
4:24:31PM SO YOU CAN READ IT BY TITLE SO WE CAN HAVE IT BEGIN TO TAKE
4:24:34PM EFFECT AFTER IT IS READ AT THE NEXT CONSECUTIVE MEETING.
4:24:37PM SO I'D LIKE THIS ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA IF POSSIBLE.
4:24:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:24:42PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
4:24:44PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
4:24:45PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:24:46PM MOTION CARRIES.
4:24:47PM AND IF I HEAR NO OBJECTION, WE ARE --
4:24:52PM >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
4:24:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
4:24:56PM MANISCALCO.
4:24:56PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:24:58PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
4:24:59PM WE ARE RECESSED UNTIL 5:01.
4:25:02PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
4:25:04PM
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