TAMPA CRA
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 9, 2023
9:00 A.M.

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09:02:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE!
THE CITY OF TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY IS CALLED
TO ORDER.
I BELIEVE THAT BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, YOU HAVE THE
INVOCATION THIS MORNING.
09:02:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IT IS MY HONOR THIS MORNING TO WELCOME OUR FRIEND, SANDY
SANCHEZ.
SANDY SANCHEZ SERVING ON THE BOARD OF THE WEST TAMPA CAC,
A NEIGHBORHOOD LIAISON HOME OF THE VILA BROTHERS PARK AND
SECRETARY OF THE TAMPA HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION OF
NEIGHBORHOODS ALSO KNOWN AS T.H.A.N.
IF YOU CAN PLEASE STAND.
SANDY WILL GIVE THE INVOCATION.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
09:02:58AM >> I WISH ALL OF YOU SUCCESS.
ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE HELPED AND KEPT YOUR WORD FROM THE LAST
ELECTION AND HELPING THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE WISH YOU LUCK ON THAT.
IF YOU WOULD BOW YOUR HEADS, PLEASE.
WE ASK FOR GOD'S GUIDANCE, AND WE CONSIDER THE OBSTACLES
THAT ARE PLACED BEFORE US.
HELP US TO BE OBJECTIVE WHEN WE CONSIDER THE POSSIBILITIES
AND FIND REMEDIES TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS.
HELP US MAKE THOSE DECISIONS WITH HONESTY, INTEGRITY AND
HUMILITY.
AMEN.
09:03:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:03:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ROLL CALL.
09:03:54AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
09:04:01AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
09:04:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
09:04:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.
09:04:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
09:04:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
09:04:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
09:04:08AM >>CLERK:
YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:04:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
TODAY, MR. MASSEY.
09:04:14AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING -- SORRY, LET ME TURN MICROPHONE
ON.
THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
AGENCY, CRA, IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 E. KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING FOR PUBLIC
COMMENT MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES IN SPEAKER IN PERSON AT OLD
CITY HALL OR BY COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY OR CMT.
THE USE OF CMT REQUIRES PREREGISTRATION AT THE CITY'S CLERK.
DIRECTIONS FOR THE MEETING ARE ON THE AGENDA.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO WAIVE TO ALLOW PARTICIPATION BY CMT?
09:05:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND BY
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
MOTION PASSES.
OKAY.
MISS NICOLE TRAVIS WILL COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT THE
CHANGES TO THE AGENDA TODAY.
09:05:14AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS,
WE RECEIVED A MEMO STATING THAT THERE IS AN EVENT YOU ALL
NEED TO GET OUT FOR.
SO YOU ARE GOING TO BREAK AT 11:30.
AND TRYING TO MEET THAT DEADLINE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING
CONTINUING CERTAIN ITEMS TO THE MARCH MEETING.
THINGS THAT ARE NOT TIME SENSITIVE.
SO IF WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THE AGENDA, I WILL MAKE
RECOMMENDATIONS TO HELP YOU ACHIEVE YOUR GOAL TO GET OUT A
LITTLE EARLIER TODAY.
09:05:42AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM CHAIR, WHAT IS THE LAST-MINUTE
MEETINGS.
ARE WE ALWAYS ADOPTING MEETINGS?
WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT.
09:05:54AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I SPOKE TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND SHOULD BE
SOMETHING OF ADOPTING THE MINUTES FOR THE PRIOR MEETING.
IT DID NOT MAKE IT ON THIS AGENDA.
WE WILL PUT IT ON THE NEXT MEETING AND HAVE THE APPROVAL OF
THE TWO MEETINGS ON THE NEXT AGENDA.
09:06:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
09:06:09AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GO AHEAD?
OKAY.
SO I AM SUGGESTING THAT YOU TAKE THE ACTION ITEMS OF THE
REQUIRED APPROVALS.
FIRST ON THE AGENDA, THIS MEETING AND THEN STARTING WITH
ITEM NUMBER 1, CONTINUING THE PRESENTATION FROM
CHANNELSIDE CEO KIMBERLEE CURTIS TO THE MARCH 9 CRA MEETING.
09:06:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION.
09:06:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
09:06:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
09:06:39AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
NEXT ITEM WOULD BE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, TO
CONTINUE THE EAST TAMPA SUMMER USE PROGRAM UNTIL MARCH 9.
09:06:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
09:06:58AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU.
ITEM NUMBER 6, WE ARE WORKING DILIGENTLY ON THAT AND SHOULD
HAVE THAT BUTTONED UP FOR YOU AT THE MARCH NIGHT MEETING FOR
THE TAMPA THEATRE.
WHAT THEY ARE ASKING.
AND WE JUST RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION.
SO MARCH 9 IS MY RECOMMENDATION.
09:07:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
09:07:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SPOKE TO MISS TRAVIS ABOUT THIS OFF LINE
AND TO TAMPA THEATRE.
I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE HAVE A -- A -- AN AGREEMENT THAT WE
CAN APPROVE AT THE NEXT MEETING.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE A DRAFT OF IT OR HAVE A CONVERSATION
WITH THEM ABOUT IT, PLEASE DO THAT SO WE CAN MOVE THAT
FORWARD.
THE CLOCK IS TICKING FOR THEM AND FOR US.
09:07:37AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WILL DO.
09:07:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I BELIEVE I HAD A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER
GUDES.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY, MOTION PASSES.
09:07:50AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU.
I AM ASKING THAT YOU CONTINUE THE CRA STAFF REPORTS TO APRIL
13 AND PUT BACK ON YOUR BIMONTHLY REPORTING STRUCTURE
PLEASE.
09:07:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
09:08:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
09:08:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO AND
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED.
MOTIONS PASSES.
09:08:09AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
LASTLY, MADAM CHAIR, NUMBER 11, THAT ITEM
NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM YOUR AGENDA.
IT WILL BE ON YOUR COUNCIL AGENDA FOR THE 16th.
09:08:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT, MOTION PASSES.
09:08:30AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THAT'S IT FOR THE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE
AGENDA.
IF.
09:08:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE
APPROVALS FIRST?
09:08:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL START WITH
THE APPROVALS.
09:08:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS FINE.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
09:08:46AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
MY PLEASURE.
09:08:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AT THIS TIME -- SORRY, WE NEED TO APPROVE THE
AGENDA.
09:08:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO MOVED.
09:08:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY, MOTION PASSES.
IT IS NOW TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME TO COMMENT ON ANY ITEM FOR UP TO THREE
MINUTES.
WELCOME.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS MORNING?
COME ON UP.
09:09:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
I'M HERE THIS MORNING AS A MEMBER OF THE NAACP.
OUR ONGOING ISSUES AROUND HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THE SYSTEMIC
ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN TERMS OF THE UNAVAILABLE
ATTAINABILITY OF HOUSING FOR POOR, WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL BE REPORTED TODAY, BUT IN THE
LAST CRA -- EAST TAMPA CRA MEETING, IT WAS APPROVED THAT WE
WOULD EXTEND UP TO -- EXTEND HOUSING ASSISTANCE FOR HOMES UP
TO A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A COMMUNITY THAT IS COMPLETELY
WORKING-CLASS, IS WELCOMING TO ALL WHO WANT TO COME TO EAST
TAMPA, BUT WHEN WE ARE TALKING OF THE SLOW PACE OF REHAB,
REDEVELOPMENT FOR THAT COMMUNITY, I WOULD SAY THAT THIS
COUNCIL SHOULD GIVE CAUTION TO DEVELOPERS THAT IT IS
BUILDING AT THAT RATE.
AND IF PEOPLE WANT TO PURCHASE AT THAT RATE, FINE WITH THE
COMMUNITY.
BUT THE EAST TAMPA CRA MONEY SHOULD NOT BE UTILIZED IN ANY
FORM OF ASSISTANCE UNTIL WE DEAL WITH THE ONGOING ISSUES OF
SYSTEMIC WEALTH DIVISIONS BETWEEN THE COMMUNITIES, THOSE
THAT DON'T HAVE, AND THOSE THAT ARE ABLE TO COME IN AND
PURCHASE.
THAT SHOULD BE A PROBLEM AND SOMETHING THAT IS VERY ALARMING
TO YOU.
ALSO, IN 2019, WE HAD DISCUSSED WITH DIFFERENT
COUNCILMEMBERS, THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING CONTAINER HOMES.
IT SOURS SOME, BUT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH CREATIVE IDEAS TO
ALLOW PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA AND NOT BE PUSHED FURTHER OUT OF
OUR COMMUNITY.
NOW WE ARE FINDING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE THAT ONCE LIVED IN
EAST TAMPA BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE IN PLACE DUPLEXES, WE DON'T
HAVE QUADRIPLEXES, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE THINGS TO KEEP
OUR COMMUNITY WHOLE.
WHY IT IS DRIVEN BY THE ADMINISTRATION, WE QUESTION HOW WAYS
OF RED LINES HAS BEEN TRANSFERRED NOW IN TERMS OF THOSE WHO
HAVE RESOURCES AND THOSE THAT DO NOT HAVE RESOURCES.
AND THEN WHAT CAN THIS COUNCIL TO DO ENSURE THAT OUR
COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF -- AWARE OF PROGRAMS THAT WILL PROVIDE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL.
THANK YOU.
09:12:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
09:12:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM CHAIR.
09:12:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:12:23AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS TRAVIS, WILL YOU GIVE A REPORT FROM
THE CAC AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNT APPROVED TODAY?
AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT -- AND I HAVE AN ISSUE
CITYWIDE IN THAT -- I DON'T KNOW IF THIS COUNCIL WILL HAVE
TO -- THIS BOARD WILL NEED A MOTION TO SEND TO OUR CITY
COUNCIL, BUT, AGAIN, I HEAR TIME AND TIME AGAIN, EVEN AT
COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT COMMUNICATION WITHIN THE CITY.
AND I KNOW WE TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN, BUT I THINK THAT
THE COUNTY DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB, BECAUSE THE COUNTY PUTS
THOSE -- LIKE I KEEP SAYING THOSE BILLBOARDS ON THE SIDES OF
THE ROAD.
PEOPLE CAN SEE OF PROGRAMMING.
IF WE NEED TO CHANGE AN ORDINANCE BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND
HOW A COUNTY CAN PUT IN HERE AND PUT THE BIG OL' SIGNS OF
COMMUNICATE OF PROGRAMS, ZONINGS, AND WE STILL DON'T DO
THAT.
I PROBABLY WILL MAKE A MOTION.
I WILL DO IT AT THE NIGHT COUNCIL MEETING.
IF ZONING CHANGE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
WE GO TO ALL THESE MEETINGS, THEY ARE SAYING THAT THE CITY'S
COMMUNICATION IS BAD WHEN IT RELATES TO PROGRAMMING AND OUR
PROGRAMS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE MOVE FORWARD IF THIS COUNCIL OR
ANOTHER COUNCIL FOR THE RIGHT THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO
KNOW.
09:13:37AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD, DEPUTY CITY
ADMINISTRATOR ALIS DRUMGO, ALSO YOUR INTERIM DEPUTY DIRECTOR
FOR THE CRA.
I WILL SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF THINGS JUST THE COMMENTS THAT
WERE JUST MADE.
THAT WAS ACTUALLY NOT DRIVEN BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
IT WAS DRIVEN BY THE CAC ITSELF.
THERE IS A HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE THAT -- YOU KNOW, THEY TOOK
THAT UP AMONGST THEMSELVES AND BROUGHT TO THE CAC UP TO
500,000 AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION AS WELL RELATIVE TO
INCREASING THE DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE THEMSELVES AND THEY
OPTED NOT TO INCREASE THAT AMOUNT, BECAUSE THERE ARE FUNDS
THAT ARE -- THAT CAN BE LAYERED WITH OTHER SOURCE TO ACHIEVE
-- TO GET PEOPLE INTO THEIR HOMES.
SO I WILL JUST -- I WILL LEAVE THAT THERE FOR YOU TO DIGEST,
BUT RELATIVE TO THE MARKETING, YOU WILL RECEIVE AN UPDATE
THIS MORNING ON BRANDING AND MARKETING, AND I THINK YOU WILL
BE PLEASED WITH OUR PROGRESS TO STATE AND HOW WE INTEND TO
ATTACK THE MARKETING OF OUR PROGRAMS AS A CRA.
09:14:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
09:14:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
09:14:41AM >> MENTESNOT.
WANT TO SAY UHURU.
UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD BE THINKING OF THE FREEDOM.
AND THE THINGS THEY TO DO KEEP US AWAY FROM FREEDOM AND
SELF-DETERMINATION BECAUSE 623 YEARS SINCE WE HAVE BEEN
LIVING UNDER THESE OPPRESSIVE CONDITIONS.
THE CONDITIONS ARE REALLY OPPRESSIVE.
WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING FOR 623 YEARS IS EVOLVING THE
METHODOLOGY, EVOLVING THE TECHNIQUES OF HOW THEY CARRY OUT
THE SAME AND BASIC SYSTEMS OF OPPRESSION AND REGRESSION AND
KEEP ATTACKING AFRICAN PEOPLE.
AND THEY KEEP US CONFUSED.
THEY KEEP US LIKE CRASH TEST DUMMIES.
LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANY SENSE.
WE HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
WE SEE LIKE PEOPLE COME DOWN HERE, AFRICAN PEOPLE.
MOST AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO COME DOWN HERE.
JUST LIKE MOST AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF THE POLICE.
MOST AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF WHITE PEOPLE.
MOST GROWN ADULT AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF LITTLE WHITE
CHILDREN.
I AM SAYING LITERALLY SCARED, AFRAID BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID
IF WE SAY THE WRONG THING TO THEM, IF WE BUMP UP AGAINST
THEM WRONG TO ARE SOMETHING, ANYTHING THAT CAN HAPPEN, THAT
WE CAN LITERALLY GET LYNCHED -- YES, LITERALLY LYNCHED.
LITERALLY INCARCERATED.
LITERALLY CHARGES BROUGHT AGAINST US AND ALL THIS OTHER
CRAZINESS.
THAT IS WHY YOU DON'T SEE AN INFLUX OF AFRICAN PEOPLE DOWN
HERE.
ALTHOUGH THE CITY -- MOST AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE LIVING LIKE IN
A THIRD-WORLD COUNTRY.
YOU CAN GO THROUGH THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY AND SEE IT.
WE ARE LIVING IN ABJECT POVERTY AND ALL THE INFORMATION IS
THERE.
WE CAN'T MAKE IT INCUMBENT ON OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL AND WHO
YOU ALL APPOINT FOR THAT DISTRICT OR CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS.
NO, YOU WHITE PEOPLE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
WE ARE 26% OF THIS POPULATION AND WE WANT TO BE TREATED AS
26% OF THIS POPULATION.
WE WANT 26% OF THIS BUDGET.
WE WANT 26%.
WE DON'T WANT AFFIRMATIVE ACTION NONSENSE WHERE WE ARE
GETTING -- WHEN YOU ARE CAUGHT IN THE NONSENSE DOING $139
MILLION PROJECT AND IT DON'T GO THROUGH ANYBODY AND YOU ARE
CAUGHT IN THE -- IN THE MIDST OF IT AND YOU GIVE A CONTRACT
HERE AND A CONTRACT THERE.
NO, $100 MILLION CONTRACT, WE WANT $26 MILLION OF IT.
ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE.
WHAT WE DO IS WHAT WE DO, BEER OR WEAVE OR WHATEVER.
WE ARE DESERVING OF 26% OF THE BUDGET.
THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO HOLD THIS WHITE CITY COUNCIL
ACCOUNTABLE FOR.
CAN'T KEEP GETTING OFF THE HOOK.
ONE TIME, BLACK PEOPLE COULDN'T EVEN COME DOWN HERE AND
SPEAK UNLESS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT NONSENSE.
STILL THE SAME WAY, SPEED BUMPS, ROUNDABOUTS, WHAT PARKS AND
RECREATION, PARADES, ALL THAT NONSENSE.
IN COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN IS FULL OF AIDS, FULL OF
DISEASES, FULL OF DIABETES, ILLNESSES AND NOBODY HERE TALKS
ABOUT IT.
NOT IN A REAL SENSE.
WHITE PEOPLE, YOU HAVE TO STEP Y'ALL'S GAME UP.
09:17:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
09:17:55AM >> BOB WHITMORE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE, CITIZENS
ACTIONS GROUP.
A FEW WEEKS AGO A WHITE MAN PURCHASED OVER 6 ,000 BLACK MEN
AND WOMEN FOR $30,000.
EMANCIPATED SLAVES, LIVED THROUGH RECONSTRUCTION, JIM CROW
AND SEGREGATION WERE SOLD TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER.
WHERE THE OUTRAGE?
40 ACRES, FOUR CITY BLOCKS OF BLACK AMERICANS ARE NOW THE
PROPERTY -- THE PROPERTY OF A LAND SPECULATOR WHO ALLOWED TO
PURCHASE THE PLOTS WITH THE MONEY-SAVING SCHEME OF A CITY
BUREAUCRAT.
THIS CITY TRIED TO PULL A FAST ONE GETTING IT ON THE CHEAP
INSTEAD OF OUTRIGHT PURCHASE CAN IT FOR RESTORATION.
THE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY SERVICE IS THE MOST DESPICABLE
ACTS OF UNBRIDLED GREED THAT THE CITY WILL SEE LONG AFTER
THE JACKSON HOUSE IS ALLOWED TO COLLAPSE IN THE WEIGHT OF
WHITE INDIFFERENCE, STAND AS AN EXAMPLE OF THIS GREAT CITY'S
BUILD IT AND BUY IT FOR RICH WHITE PEOPLE'S POLICIES.
A CITY THAT CONSISTENTLY SHOWS OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT IT
BELIEVES BEING BLACK IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE AND SPENDS
BILLIONS ON PROJECTS FOR THE WEALTHY IN THE CITY AND
SPENDING A FRACTION OF THAT ON SOCIAL PROGRAMS, GREEN SPACES
AND HOUSING OPTIONS FOR MEN AND WOMEN OF COLOR COLOR WHO
STRUGGLE TO SIMPLY GET THROUGH THAT DAY WITHOUT A COP ASKING
THEM WHERE THEY ARE GOING.
NOTHING YOU DO HERE TODAY, NOTHING WILL BE AS IMPORTANT AS
MAKING THE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY PROBLEM RIGHT.
WE NEED TO PAY THE RANSOM DEMAND THE CITY HAS NO DOUBT
RECEIVED AND MOVE FORWARD LEAVING MR. ORTEGA WITH HIS
CONSCIOUS AND MAKER FOR THESE ATROCITIES.
I VISITED THE SOULS OF MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY THIS MORNING,
AND I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS.
I SAT BESIDE THE SILENT CROWD OF BODIES SET BENEATH THE
EARTH.
ONCE FREE, THEY WERE ENSLAVED AGAIN FOR PROFIT.
$30,000 GRAND THEIR WORTH.
PLEASE FREE THE SOULS OF MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
THANK YOU
[APPLAUSE]
09:20:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
09:20:33AM >> I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING YET.
[BEEPING]
NOT A GOOD DAY FOR THE MAYOR.
ADRIANNE RODRIGUEZ.
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I WOULD LIKE TO ILLUMINATE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT MEMORIAL
PARK CEMETERY.
YESTERDAY, MYSELF AND A VESTED PARTY WHO WILL ALSO BE
SPEAKING TODAY SPOKE WITH THE NEW OWNERSHIP OF MEMORIAL PARK
CEMETERY ABOUT THEIR NEWLY ACQUIRED HISTORICAL BLACK
CEMETERY.
THEY WERE ACCOMMODATING, EASY TO TALK TO, PROVIDED DETAILS
TO HELP MAKE SENSE OF THIS AND ARE VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN
SELLING BACK THE CEMETERY TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THEY EXPLAINED THE CEMETERY WENT TO A BLIND BID AUCTION VIA
THE COURTS AS A JUDICIAL SALE.
THE SALE OCCURRED ON JANUARY 6, 2023.
A LENGTHY TIMELINE BUT STARTED DECEMBER 2020 AND FINALLY THE
CEMETERY SOLD TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER ON JANUARY 6, 2023.
TWO YEARS THIS SALE HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS.
CITY NEVER HAD ANY INTENTIONS IN DOING THE RIGHT THING AS
MAYOR CASTOR SAID SHE WOULD.
WE ALL KNOW THAT SHE ONLY CATERS TO WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO
HER.
AND WITH HER OWN UNHOLY OBSESSION WITH FIREWORKS, RIBBON
CUTTINGS AND PARADES.
LET'S NOT FORGET PARADES.
SO SHE NEVER DID THE RIGHT THING.
SHE LET THE PEOPLE OF THE COMMUNITY DOWN.
SHE LET EVERY SINGLE BODY IN THAT CEMETERY MARKED AND
UNMARKED.
SHE LET THEM DOWN.
SHE QUOTED MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. HIMSELF A COUPLE OF DAYS
BEFORE MLK DAY WHILE STANDING IN MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
THE TIME IS RIGHT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT.
THE TIME IS RIGHT TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT AFTER A BID IS WON,
SOMETHING CALLED A REDEMPTION PERIOD IN WHICH ONE HAS TEN
DAYS TO RECLAIM THE PROPERTY.
NOW THE TRUTH IS THE CITY OF TAMPA COULD NOT HAVE MADE THAT
RECLAIM, BUT YOU KNOW WHO COULD HAVE, THE NONPROFIT THAT
THEY SAID MEMORIAL PARK WAS SUPPOSED TO GO TO.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, THERE ARE GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS
BEFORE THE SALE OF THE CEMETERY BUT A FORECLOSURE DOESN'T
REQUIRE ANY DISCLOSURES.
I STAND BEHIND MY STATEMENTS AND ACCUSATIONS THAT THE CITY
OF TAMPA ACTED CARELESSLY, RECKLESSLY, AND IRRESPONSIBLY.
AND THERE NEEDS TO BE REPARATIONS.
IN MY OPINION, IF I WERE ABLE TO SAY HOW MUCH WE SHOULD WAY,
$200,000.
$200,000 IS A NUMBER SHE CAN EASILY REMEMBER.
SO WHEN IS THIS GOING TO STOP?
THIS IS THE THIRD CEMETERY I FOUGHT FOR SINCE 2018.
COLON IN 2018.
WOODLAWN WHICH, THANK YOU, LAST YEAR YOU GUYS SAVED IT FOR
US AND NOW WE ARE DOING THIS.
THEY ARE WILLING TO WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES.
THEY DON'T WANT TO MEET WITH THE MAYOR.
THE OWNER IS WILLING TO MEET WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES BECAUSE
THAT IS HIS DISTRICT.
AND WE CAN PROVIDE THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE COUNCIL
ATTORNEY PHONE NUMBERS OF HIS REPRESENTATIVE SO YOU CAN
ARRANGE THAT MEETING.
OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:23:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
09:23:59AM >> AT MEMORIAL PARK, I HAVE DOCUMENTED CLOSE TO 15,000
BURIALS, 10,000 OF WHICH IS UNMARKED.
TOTAL NUMBER OF BURIALS ARE LIKELY CLOSE TO 20,000 --
09:24:11AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
GIVE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
09:24:13AM >> HALLE REED.
THE TOTAL NUMBER -- I -- AND THERE IS LIKELY CLOSE TO 20,000
WITH 15,000 OF THEM BEING UNMARKED.
THIS INCLUDES A NUMBER OF BURIALS THAT WERE REMOVED FROM
ZION CEMETERY, COLLEGE PARK CEMETERY AND ROBLES POND
CEMETERY BEFORE THERE WERE ERASED.
THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT IMPORTANT.
TYRUS T. GREEN AND GEORGE MIDDLETON AND POPULAR BASEBALL
PLAYER FARENAS, WHOSE CUBAN NATIONALITY ALLOWED HIM TO PLAY,
AND AN ARTIST WHO RECORDED WITH ARETHA FRANKLIN AND BUSINESS
OWNERS AND PROFESSIONALS THAT WERE THE BACKBONE OF TAMPA'S
MIDDLE-CLASS COMMUNITY.
THE OLDEST PERSON BURIED AT MEMORIAL WAS IN 1919, WITH HIS
AGE AS 106, MEANING HIS BIRTH YEAR WOULD HAVE BEEN IN 1813.
MANY OF THE EARLY BURIALS ON MEMORIAL WERE OLD ENOUGH TO NOT
ONLY BORN INTO SLAVERY BUT SPENT A PORTION OF THEIR ADULT
LIVES AS SLAVES.
MEMORIAL PARK IN 1920 AND DIGNIFIED TIME RESTING PLACE FOR
TAMPA'S BLACK VETERANS AND TODAY HOME OF THE ONLY MEMORIAL
IN TAMPA DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY TO BLACK VETERANS.
TODAY, THERE ARE 830 VETERANS BURIED THERE SERVING FROM THE
COLOR REGIMENS OF THE CIVIL WAR TO THOSE WHO DIED SERVING
THEIR COUNTRY IN VIETNAM.
MORE THAN ANYTHING, THE PEOPLE BURIED AT MEMORIAL ARE THE
UNACKNOWLEDGED WORKERS THAT LITERALLY BUILT TAMPA.
CIGAR MAKERS, FARMERS, DOCK WORKERS AND LABORER, LAUNDRY AND
HOUSEKEEPER WHO SERVED THE PEOPLE WHOSE NAMES WENT DOWN IN
HISTORY.
I AM ASKING THEM -- I AM ASKING YOU TODAY TO NOT LET THEM BE
FORGOTTEN.
SAVE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
THANK YOU.
09:26:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
09:26:19AM >> GOOD MORNING.
AILEEN HENDERSON, 914 WEST FRIDLEY STREET, TAMPA.
I WANT TO YOU KNOW I WAS PREPARED TO SPEAK TODAY AND SHARE
SOME INFORMATION WITH ALL OF YOU BASED ON A CONVERSATION I
HAD YESTERDAY WITH MY COHORT WITH THE NEW OWNERSHIP WITH
MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
BASICALLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO OUTLINE WAS THE TIMELINE OF
EVENTS UP TO THE DAY THE CITY OF TAMPA LOST ITS 100-YEAR-OLD
DESIGNATED HISTORICAL BLACK CEMETERY.
BUT TRUTH IS, I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND THE LIGHT.
I AM DISILLUSIONED AND LOST.
WHAT I NOW KNOW FOR TWO YEARS -- TWO YEARS, THE CITY OF
TAMPA HAS BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COURTS PREPARING FOR
THE FORECLOSURE THEN RETRACTING, THEN PREPARING, THEN
RETRACTING UNTIL FINALLY FOR A SECOND TIME, THEY MADE THE
REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTICE OF SALE AND PAID THE SERVICE FEE FOR
THE JUDICIAL SALE OF THAT CEMETERY.
AGAIN, ALL OF THIS WITHIN A TWO-YEAR TIME SPAN, ALL THE
WHILE MAKING PUBLIC STATEMENTS ABOUT HOW THEY WERE MAKING
STRIDES WITH OUR CEMETERIES SPECIFICALLY OUR BLACK
CEMETERIES.
HECK, THEY EVEN CREATED A TASK FORCE, A TASK FORCE THAT WAS
SUPPOSED TO HELP SECURE A NONPROFIT TO TAKE OVER MEMORIAL
PARK CEMETERY, NOT A FOR PROPERTY PROPERTY FLIPPER.
I AM BEWILDERED AND THE MULTITUDE OF EMOTIONS IS
OVERWHELMING.
BUT MOSTLY, I AM IN PAIN.
MY HEART HURTS DEEPLY FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS ... IF THEY WOULD SO GRACIOUSLY
ALLOW ME THE PRIVILEGE TO CALL THEM MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS
... STANDING HERE NOW, I STRUGGLE TO FIND THE WORDS AND
STRENGTH TO SOMEHOW PERSUADE YOU FOR A CALL TO ACTION.
I HAVE BEEN TOLD I AM ENTIRELY TOO EMOTIONAL.
IN POLITICS THE FACTS THAT MUST DECIDE.
AND OH, HOW I BEG TO DIFFER.
BECAUSE YOU SEE, COUNCIL, I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THAT
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU BECAME INVOLVED POLITICALLY BECAUSE
OF A PASSION AND A DEDICATION TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
LETTING MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY GO TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER WAS
NOT THE RIGHT THING.
AMPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT AND ONCE AGAIN,
TAMPA HAS FALLEN TO ANOTHER NEW LOW.
IN THE WORDS OF NELSON MANDELA, THE GREATEST GLORY IN LIVING
LIES NOT IN NEVER FALLING BUT RISING EVERY TIME WE FALL.
COUNCIL, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO RISE.
RISE UP AND HELP PICK THIS CITY UP FROM ITS FALLEN STATE OF
GRACE!
[APPLAUSE]
09:29:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:29:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AM GOING TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER MISS
COPELAND SPEAKS AND HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND THEN I WILL
ADDRESS MISS TRAVIS.
09:29:32AM >> THANK YOU.
NORENE COPELAND MILLER.
AND I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO -- I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR AN
UPDATE.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, THANK
YOU FOR THE UPDATE.
I HAVE GOTTEN AN UPDATE WITH THEM WHAT IS GOING ON WITH
MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
I WAS AT PEACE FOR A WHILE, BECAUSE I WAS HOLDING ON MY
GRANDFATHER IN THAT CEMETERY.
A WORLD WAR II VETERAN.
MY BROTHER IS IN THERE, A VETERAN.
AND I HAVE 12 MEMBERS IN THERE.
BUT WHAT IS MOST OF ALL IS MY MOTHER IS THERE.
I WAS REALLY AT PEACE KNOWING THAT 35 YEARS AGO, THAT WE
BURIED HER IN THAT CEMETERY WITH A HEADSTONE AND ALL OF
THAT.
THAT DAY WAS -- MY BODY WAS EMPTY.
THE FEELING I FEEL THAT DAY WAS THE MOST EMPTIEST FEELING I
EVER FELT IN MY LIFE.
BUT TO HAVE TO REVISIT THIS ... I CANNOT EVEN SAY HOW
DISGUSTING IT IS THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS ALLOWED THIS TO
HAPPEN.
I DON'T BLAME ONE PERSON.
I BLAME THE CITY OF TAMPA.
FROM THE LEADERSHIP ON DOWN.
THIS SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED.
IT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED IN ANY OTHER COMMUNITY.
NOT ONLY THAT, WE ARE ALWAYS SAYING CRA IN EAST TAMPA THIS.
EAST TAMPA, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.
YES, WE DO.
WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY IT, BUT WE ARE PAINTED A DIFFERENT
WAY THAT WE ARE ANGRY AND ALL THAT.
WE ARE MISTREATED AND DIDN'T START HAPPENING.
I WAS BORN HERE.
RAISED IN SOUTH TAMPA.
LIVE IN EAST TAMPA BY CHOICE.
THANK GOD I HAVE MY OWN HOME TO LIVE IN THAT I KEEP UP, BUT
THE AUDACITY THAT THIS -- THIS CITY HAD THE AUDACITY TO LET
SOMEONE BID ON A HISTORICAL BLACK CEMETERY, ANY CEMETERY.
MY HEART IS ACHING.
SINCE LAST WEEK MY BODY IS GOING THROUGH THINGS BECAUSE I AM
RIGHT NOW CONTINUING EVERY DAY, AND I AM THINKING OF MY
MOTHER.
ALTHOUGH YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON IT AND GOTTEN TAKEN CARE OF,
WE KNOW HOW THAT WORKS IN EAST TAMPA.
TWO YEARS FROM THE DAY WE WILL BE WORKING ON IT.
I AM RIGHT NOW SAYING TO YOU THIS IS TIME-SENSITIVE WITH THE
CEMETERY.
DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND VIERA -- COUNCILMAN, YOU SAID YOU WERE
WORKING ON IT FOR A LONG TIME.
AND I CAN TELL, BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT, YOU LEAVE THE
ROOM.
YOU HAVE WAY MORE KNOWLEDGE THAN WE DO.
IT IS GOOD THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT YOU NEVER TALKED TO
THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IT.
YOU ALL LET IT GO TO FORECLOSURE.
IN 2015, WHEN MR. ROBINSON TRIED TO GIVE THE CEMETERY TO THE
CITY OF TAMPA WHEN MR. JOHNSON WAS THE MANAGER OF THE CRA,
THE CITY DIDN'T WANT IT.
WE ARE NOT IN THE CEMETERY BUSINESS.
BUT YOU ARE ABLE TO PUT LIENS ON IT, IF TO FORECLOSURE AND
LET A BIDDER COULD AM IN AND FLIP A CEMETERY.
MY MOTHER'S SOUL IS NOT AT REST.
MY GRANDFATHER, MY GRANDMOTHER, 12 FAMILY MEMBERS, PROBABLY
MORE THAN THAT IN THAT CEMETERY, THEY ARE NOT RESTING NOW.
THAT MEANS I AM NOT RESTING.
I COME DOWN HERE EVERY THURSDAY, I WILL.
BECAUSE I AM GOING ADVOCATE FOR THIS CEMETERY, AND I THANK
GOD FOR BROTHERS AND SISTERS COMING DOWN FEELING THE
PASSION.
BUT I HAVE PEOPLE BURIED IN THERE.
I AM APPEALING TO YOU ALL TO DO THE THING.
I THANK MY COUNCILMAN FOR WHAT HE IS DOING, BUT WE NEED ALL
OF TO YOU DO SOMETHING FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM.
MAKE THIS RIGHT.
MAKE IT RIGHT NOW.
THIS IS TIME SENSITIVE.
WE CAN NOT ALLOW IT TO DRAW OUT FOR ANOTHER TWO OR THREE
YEARS TALKING BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING ON IT.
NOT ACCEPTABLE.
09:33:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
09:33:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:33:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DIDN'T DO A LOT OF PUBLIC APPEARANCES
ABOUT THE CEMETERY.
I TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
DEATH AND GRIEVANCE COMES IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS FOR PEOPLE.
EVERYONE GRIEVES DIFFERENTLY.
MISS COPELAND CALLED ME AND WE HAD A CONVERSATION -- I
BELIEVE IT WAS LAST SATURDAY NIGHT.
SHE BROKE DOWN.
FELT SO BAD.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
SHE SAID COUNCILMAN, WE NEED TO GO TO ANOTHER PERSON.
I INTO YOU WHAT THAT MEANT.
BEING A BLACK MAN, I KNEW WHAT THAT MEANT.
I TEXTED HER BACK AND APOLOGIZED AND LET HER KNOW THAT MY
HEART WAS THERE.
SHE KNOWS I AM GOING TO DO THE BEST TO DO THE RIGHT THING
AND CITIZENS -- WE HAVE BEEN GOING TO THESE DEBATES AND
CITIZENS SAY LACK OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN ADMINISTRATION
AND COUNCIL.
YOU HEARD IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
MY COLLEAGUES WERE THERE.
THERE IS A BREAKDOWN.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON UNTIL IT HAPPENS AND PEOPLE
COME TO US TO FIX THINGS WHEN WE DON'T KNOW.
WHAT I WILL SAY TO YOU -- I HAD A CONVERSATION -- I WILL
TELL THE PUBLIC.
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MISS TRAVIS.
AND SHE IS PRETTY MUCH BEGGED ME COUNCILMAN, DO NOT TALK --
I AM GOING TO FIX IT.
THAT IS WHAT SHE TOLD ME.
THAT IS WHY I HAVEN'T YELLED A BULLHORN BECAUSE SHE TOLD ME
BEHIND THE SCENES SHE IS GOING TO FIX IT.
EVERY TIME SHE HAS TOLD ME, HE WAS GOING TO DO SOMETHING.
SHE HAS DONE IT.
I AM HOPING THAT HER AND WHOEVER IS THE LEGAL PERSON WORKING
ON THIS CEMETERY ISSUE RESOLVE IT.
FOR -- FOR OUR -- I CAN'T MEET WITH THAT OWNER FOR ANY TYPE
OF NEGOTIATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I CAN'T DO THAT.
BUT I PROMISE ONCE THEY GET DONE IN THE PROCESS, I WILL MEET
WITH THE OWNER, AND I CAN'T DO IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY ARE
DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO GET THIS RESOLVE AND I AM
GOING TO TELL THEM NOW BY WHATEVER MEANS NECESSARY, I WANT
IT RESOLVED AND I THINK MISS TRAVIS WILL GET IT INVOLVED AND
MR. MASSEY IS INVOLVED TOO.
I CAN ASSURE THE PUBLIC.
I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD A BULLHORN, BUT THE ADMINISTRATION
KNOW THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE BULLHORN AND I THINK THEY
WILL DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ANY
KIND OF NEGOTIATION SITUATION AND LET THEM HANDLE THE
BUSINESS.
09:35:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
09:35:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IF THE OWNER
WANTS TO MEET WITH COUNCILMAN GUDES, BUT HE CAN'T.
AND THE ADMINISTRATION OR WHOMEVER AND MISS TRAVIS.
I KNOW THAT YOU WILL -- YOU WILL RESOLVE THIS.
A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
NUMBER ONE, I HEARD THE NUMBER $30,000.
THEN I HEARD $200,000.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS AND WE DON'T HAVE TO
PUBLICLY DISCUSS THIS.
WE HAVE TO FIX THIS AND MAKE IT RIGHT.
ANOTHER THING THAT CAME UP WAS -- THE ITALIAN CLUB CEMETERY
IS IN THE NEWS AGAIN.
SOMEONE SAID THAT THE PEOPLE THAT WERE RESIDING AT THE
ITALIAN CLUB, WHICH IS THE COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY, CORRECT?
THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE RELOCATED TO THIS OTHER
CEMETERY.
IS THAT TRUE?
09:36:31AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I DO NOT KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.
I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW.
09:36:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A QUESTION COMING UP WHAT IS IN THE
PARKING LOT AREA THERE.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT OTHER CEMETERIES.
THE CITY IS NOT IN THE CEMETERY BUSINESS.
THE CEMETERIES THAT -- LIKE WHERE I AM GOING TO BE BURIED,
THEY ARE UNDER -- CORPORATIONS HAVE BOUGHT THESE PLACES AND
PERPETUAL CARE FUNDS.
HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS AN UNIQUE SITUATION OR SEMI UNIQUE
SITUATION, WE DON'T HAVE A CORPORATION OVERSEEING THIS.
BUT WHEN WE SAY THAT THE CITY IS NOT IN THE CEMETERY
BUSINESS.
YOU KNOW WE HAVE THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.
SHOULD WE ACQUIRE THE CEMETERY, PUT IT UNDER THAT DIVISION
AND TAKE CARE OF IT FROM THERE.
WE MAINTAIN A LOT OF OTHER PARKS AND GREEN SPACES.
WHY NOT A CEMETERY?
09:37:19AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
AGAIN, NICOLE TRAVIS, DIRECTOR.
CEMETERIES ARE CONSIDERED PASSIVE PARKS.
IF WE WERE TO ACQUIRE THIS CEMETERY AND ANOTHER CEMETERY, IT
WOULD BE HOUSED IN THE PARKS AND REC DIVISION, CARED FOR,
MAINTAINED AND TREATED AS A PASSIVE PARK LIKE ANY OTHER.
THAT IS NOT ANY REASON FOR US NOT TO ENGAGE OR TAKE A PART.
WE DON'T NEGOTIATE REAL ESTATE DEALS IN PUBLIC.
IT IS JUST BAD BUSINESS TO DO THAT.
I ASSURE YOU -- I HAVE GIVEN YOU ALL MY WORD THAT WE ARE
WORKING ON THIS.
I FIND IT IRONIC THAT THE OWNER -- THE NEW OWNER HAVE SPOKEN
TO SOME OF THE CITIZENS AND YET TO RETURN OUR PHONE CALL
ABOUT WHAT IT WILL TAKE FOR THE PROPERTY.
THEY HAVE YET TO RETURN OUR PHONE CALL BECAUSE THEY ARE
WAITING TO CONTINUE TO SEE HOW MANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND
PUBLIC MEETINGS HAPPEN LIKE THIS.
SO I ASSURE YOU THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
09:38:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MADAM CHAIRMAN.
09:38:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:38:33AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I KNOW ABOUT THE CEMETERY BUSINESS AND MR.
ROBINSON AND THE WHOLE SITUATION BACK BEFORE MR. ROBINSON
PASSED AWAY.
WHEN YOU TALK OF CEMETERIES, NEW LAWS THAT CAME OUT.
BECAUSE OF -- ONE SITUATION IN TAMPA AND ANOTHER PLACE WHERE
AN UNKEPT CEMETERY.
IN MEMORIAL PARK SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
CEMETERIES HAVE TO BE IN A TRUST AND A VAST AMOUNT OF MONEY
WHOEVER OWN AS CEMETERY.
YOU ARE RIGHT, THE BIGGER CORPORATIONS DO THAT.
SOME OF THE SMALLER ONES DON'T AND CLOSED DOWN AND PEOPLE
WALK AWAY FROM THEM.
BUT TO OWN A CEMETERY -- TO OWN ONE, WILL TAKE A LOT OF
MONEY TO KEEP THAT CEMETERY PAUSE NEW LAWS IN PLACE TO KEEP
A CEMETERY AND I CAN TELL THAT YOU BECAUSE MYSELF AND OTHER
FUNERAL HOME DIRECTORS AROUND HERE TRIED TO TALK TO MR.
ROBINSON ABOUT THAT AND THE LAW HAS CHANGED.
THAT IS WHY NO ONE BOUGHT THE CEMETERY.
09:39:28AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THE NONPROFITS THAT THE CITY TRIED TO GET
THE MEMORIAL CEMETERY REFUSED TO TAKE ON THE MEMORIAL --
THERE WAS A CONCERTED EFFORT TO TRY TO GET THE NONPROFITS TO
TAKE THE CEMETERY.
IF I MAY BEFORE -- JUST -- FOR MISS NORENE.
I -- WHEN SHE SAID MY MOM IS THERE.
LIKE THAT RESONATES, RIGHT.
AND THEY CAN NOT BUILD ON THE CEMETERY.
THEY CAN NOT DO ANYTHING WITH THE CEMETERY.
AND IF A BLADE OF GRASS IS NOT -- IT IS TRUE, THIS HE CAN
NOT BUILD ON THE CEMETERY.
IT IS TRUE.
IT IS PROTECTED THEY CAN NOT BUILD ON THE CEMETERY.
THERE ARE LAWS THAT PROTECT THAT.
I AM SORRY?
SO THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND WE ARE GOING TO -- EVERY LETTER OF THE LAW THAT IT WILL
TAKE TO ENFORCE FOR THAT NEW PROPERTY OWNER TO MAINTAIN AND
PROTECT AND GIVE THE RESPECT THAT IS DESERVED TO THE
MEMORIAL CEMETERY, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE ADHERE TO THAT.
ONE LAST THING BEFORE ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE,
BEFORE YOU ASSUME ANYTHING WERE FACTS.
I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY SPEAK TO
MORRIS AND I ONE ON ONE IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OF THE THINGS
THAT ARE SAID, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO CLEAR THOSE THINGS UP.
09:40:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
09:40:45AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ME, I WILL BE
MORE THAN HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
09:40:49AM >> YOU MADE NEVER ATTEMPTS --
09:40:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS -- THIS IS NOT THE TIME.
[GAVEL SOUNDING]
MA'AM, THIS IS NOT THE TIME.
09:40:58AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
WE ARE NOT HAVING A DEBATE.
THIS IS PUBLIC, COMMENT, AND SHE IS RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS
FROM THE BOARD.
09:41:04AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THE PUBLIC.
THIS COUNCIL A FEW MONTHS AGO PASSED SOME NEW RULES TO
PROTECT CEMETERIES SO THEY CAN'T BE DEVELOPED.
THAT IS WHAT MISS TRAVIS WAS TALKING ABOUT.
KNOWING ABOUT ZION AND OTHER CEMETERIES.
SEVEN OF US PUT THAT IN PLACE WITH THE HELP OF STAFF TO
PROTECT THE CEMETERY PROPERTIES BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT ANYONE
TO DEVELOP ON TOP OF CEMETERIES AGAIN.
SECOND, BOARD MEMBER GUDES TALKED ABOUT THE LACK OF
COMMUNICATION.
AND THE ONLY COMMUNICATION I HAVE GOTTEN THAT THE CITY WOULD
TAKE THIS OVER AND THERE WAS A PROCESS TO TAKE THIS OVER.
THE FIRST I LEARNED THAT THE CITY FAILED TO GET IT WHEN I
READ IT IN THE PAPER PROBABLY ALONG WITH THE REST OF YOU.
I WAS EQUALLY DISAPPOINTED.
MISS TRAVIS IS WORKING IN EARNEST TO GET THIS.
MY QUESTION -- IF I CAN HAVE YOU SWITCH HATS.
IS MEMORIAL IN THE CRA?
THE EAST TAMPA CRA?
09:42:04AM >>Nick:
I BELIEVE IT IS.
IT IS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES.
09:42:07AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE CRA
STAFF TO LOOK INTO BUYING MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY AND REPORT
BACK TO US AT THE NEXT MEETING OF THE POSSIBILITY OF THAT.
09:42:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
BUT I HAVE -- CURRENTLY HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER
CARLSON.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY DISCUSSION?
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
09:42:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
FOR THE COMMENT -- GOD BLESS YOU, MA'AM, AND
YOUR REMARKS.
YOU STEPPED OUTSIDE A FAMILY MATTER.
HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
I ASSURE YOU.
I SAID I WAS INVOLVED IN THIS.
IT WASN'T ON THIS ISSUE.
IN TERMS OF CLEANUPS.
I KNOW THIS MAY OF 2023 IS GOING TO BE THE 100th ANNIVERSARY
OF THE RED CROSS MEMORIAL MARKER THERE AND I WAS WORKING
WITH THE GENTLEMAN, ELSWORTH WILLIAMS DOING A 100-YEAR
CEREMONY AND WHATNOT.
I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT THIS MOTION.
THE CRA IS LOOKING INTO THE FEASIBILITY OF TAKING OVER AND
MAINTAINING AND IMPROVING THE CEMETERY, AND THAT CONTINUED
TO BE PUSH DOWN BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE.
I GUESS THIS TAKES IT A STEP FURTHER WHICH IS ULTIMATELY THE
INTENT.
I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT IT AND MY BIG THING IS -- I AM SPEAKING
ON BEHALF OF MYSELF WHICH IS WHEN -- AGAIN, ALL DEFER TO
MISS TRAVIS WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS FROM --
FROM PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND POTENTIALLY, INADVERTENTLY --
INADVERTENTLY, WE WANT THIS THING TO GO WELL, TO
INADVERTENTLY MAKE THE PROCESS WORSE.
MY WHOLE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THIS IS PRESERVED AND THIS
INDIVIDUAL, ENTITY OR WHOEVER WHO BOUGHT IT, CAN ULTIMATELY
-- THE RIGHT THING CAN BE DONE AND WE KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT
THING AND THAT IS WHAT ALL SEVEN OF US WANT.
09:43:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
09:44:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING, AND WE
WILL DO THE RIGHT THING.
NOTHING ELSE.
09:44:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
09:44:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
I CANNOT SPEAK FOR ALL SEVEN OF US, SOMEWHERE I KNOW THAT
ALL SEVEN OF US WANT TO MAKE THIS RIGHT.
AND HOPEFULLY WITH MISS TRAVIS' HELP AND OUR LEGAL
DEPARTMENT, THIS WILL BE MADE RIGHT.
BUT I KNOW RIGHT NOW THE OWNER IS WATCHING THIS, AND
WATCHING THIS DISCUSSION.
AND EACH TIME WE SPEAK, THE PRICE GOES UP AND UP AND UP AND
UP.
WE WANT TO MAKE THIS RIGHT.
LET US HAVE OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH MISS TRAVIS AND THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT INDIVIDUALLY.
SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS MADE RIGHT.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
09:44:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
09:44:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU.
I HEAR A LOT OF GOOD THINGS AND CONVERSATIONS OF HOW TO
REACH THE OBJECTIVE, REACH THE GOAL.
HOWEVER, I GO BACK TO WHAT MR. GUDES SAID AND IT IS
INCUMBENT UPON THAT OWNER WHO OWNS THE CEMETERY NOW TO FALL
UNDER THE NEW GUIDELINES OF THE SYSTEM THAT WAS IN PLACE.
THAT MEANS THAT OWNER IS ALSO UNDER AN ENORMOUS OBLIGATION
TO NOT ONLY THOSE WHO ARE BURIED THERE BUT TO SOCIETY AND
HIMSELF.
I GO BACK TO WHAT MR. CITRO SAID, IF YOU FINE BY THOSE TWO,
THE ULTIMATE RESULT WILL BE, IT WILL COME.
IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
THE MORE WE TALK, THE WORSE IT GETS.
WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH NEGOTIATIONS.
THAT IS UP TO MISS TRAVIS AND THE ADMINISTRATION.
SO MY ADVICE TO MYSELF, NOT TO THE OTHER SIX IS LISTEN,
OBSERVE, AND AT THE END, FIND OUT WHERE WE CAN MEAT THE GAP
TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
AND RIGHT NOW THAT PROBLEM THE MORE WE SPEAK, THE FURTHER
APART IT GETS BECAUSE MORE CONVERSATION ON THE TABLE.
THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
09:46:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:46:02AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HEAR THE MOTION ON FLOOR, BUT MY THING IS
THE CRA WAS NOT A PARTY TO THIS.
THE CITY WAS.
I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CRA DOLLARS TO HANDLE THIS SITUATION.
WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES IN OUR CRA.
IT WAS A CITY ISSUE.
STAY WITH MISS TRAVIS IN THE CITY AND CRA DOLLARS TO BE USED
IN THE APPROPRIATE MANNER AND PLACE AND THE CITY DEALS WITH
IT OUT OF WHATEVER FUNDS OUT OF THE CITY MONEY.
09:46:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AGREE WITH THAT.
09:46:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
09:46:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
FOR THE PUBLIC'S PURPOSE.
THE CRA IS REPRESENTED BY THE -- BY THE CITY COUNCIL SITTING
AT A CRA BOARD, BUT A SEPARATE LEGAL ENTITY.
WE OUTSOURCE STAFF TO THE CITY.
THAT MISS TRAVIS IS THE INTERIM HEAD OF THE CRA AND THE
PERSON IN CHARGE OF ECONOMIC AND REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT IN
THE CITY.
CRA HAS SP RAT BUCKETS OF MONEY AND WE ALSO HAVE -- EVEN
THOUGH WE OUTSOURCE TO THE CITY, WE HAVE A QUICKER DECISION
MAKING PROCESS THAN THE CITY.
AND THE REASON WHY I MADE MY MOTION IS THAT THE CITY WENT
THROUGH THEIR PROCESS.
SOMEONE SAID IT TOOK TWO YEARS.
I THINK THE CRA CAN MOVE FASTER AND MAKE DECISIONS QUICKLY
AND FUNDING.
UNFORTUNATELY, TOO MUCH FUNDING SITTING IN THESE ACCOUNTS
AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY WITH
IT.
ANYWAY, WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
THIS NOT ABOUT THE PRICE, IT IS ABOUT PROVIDING A QUICKER
PROCESS ABOUT GETTING IT DONE.
THANK YOU.
09:47:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
AND A SECOND.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION?
OKAY.
SOUNDS LIKE WITHER GOING TO NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THIS.
09:47:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
09:47:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
09:47:50AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
09:47:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
09:47:52AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
09:47:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
09:47:56AM >>CLERK:
MOTION PASSED WITH CITRO ABSENT AT VOTE.
IF SOMEONE WILL INDULGE ME AND A MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE
THE JANUARY MINUTES.
SULING WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
09:48:09AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO MOVED.
09:48:12AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I APOLOGIZE, I UNDERSTAND FROM THE CLERK'S
OFFICE THOSE WERE AVAILABLE SO I MISSPOKE.
09:48:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO WORRY.
WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES.
WE ARE HUMAN, RIGHT.
SO BOARD MEMBER -- MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO REQUIRED APPROVALS.
09:48:35AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
MR. DRUMGO WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE
REQUIRED APPROVALS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:48:44AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD.
ALIS DRUMGO, AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THE YBOR CAC APPLICATION FOR APPROVAL FOR
APPOINTMENT OF MEREDITH BURWICK TO THE HISTORIC EAST YBOR
AND GARY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR YOU BOARD CRA BEFORE
YOU TODAY.
09:49:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
09:49:17AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
NEXT ITEM UP FOR YOU IS THE REAPPOINTMENT OF
MR. JOSEPH W.J. ROBINSON FOR THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION TO BE REAPPOINTED TO THE WEST
TAMPA CRA.
09:49:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
09:49:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.
09:49:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED.
MOTION PASSES.
09:49:40AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
NEXT ITEM UP FOR APPROVAL IS THE GRANT
AGREEMENT FOR THE WELLNESS CENTER AT 5110 NORTH 40th STREET
IN EAST TESTIMONY.
YOU ALL HEARD THIS ITEM BACK IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.
AND IN GRANT AGREEMENT SOLIDIFIES OF $350,000 AND OUTLINES
THE PARAMETERS.
09:49:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:50:02AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HOW CLOSE ARE YOU, MR. DRUMGO.
I DON'T KNOW YOU ARE AWARE WHERE THAT IS.
A NIGHTCLUB IN FOR MANY, MANY YEARS THAT CAUSED PROBLEMS IN
THE COMMUNITY.
NEIGHBORS IN EAST TAMPA AND THE BACK SIDE WILL BE VERY
THRILLED AND CLEAR ALL THE MESS ON THE SIDE.
HOW CLOSE ARE THEY.
DO YOU KNOW?
09:50:21AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY ARE WORKING
THROUGH THEIR FINANCING AND WORKING ON A SBA LOAN AND TAKING
A LITTLE MORE TIME.
SERIAL ENTREPRENEURS THAT OWN SOME OTHER BUSINESSES.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO BE PATIENT AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THAT
PROSING PROCESS AND THIS COMMUNICATION WILL HELP MOVE THEM
CLOSER AND GET THAT FINANCING APPROVED.
09:50:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I LIKE THAT.
AND IT'S CLOSER SO SENIORS CAN GET MEDICATIONS FROM THAT
SPOT.
09:50:46AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
ABSOLUTELY.
09:50:48AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
SO THE BOARD IS AWARE, OUR OBLIGATION TO
FUND THIS, OUR PORTION OF IT, IS THE LAST FUNDS IN
BASICALLY.
THEY NEED TO GET THE BALANCE TO MATCH IT IN ORDER FOR OUR
FUNDING TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND OUR FUNDING IS ALSO CONSISTENT UPON THEM HALTING THE
SERVICE OF ALCOHOL FROM THAT PREMISE AND GIVING UP ANY
LIQUOR LICENSES IN THAT SITE.
09:51:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
09:51:14AM >> SECOND.
09:51:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHICH IS ONE OF THE BIG PARTS OF IT AS BOARD
MEMBER GUDES MENTIONED TO MAKE IT A COMMUNITY SPACE.
A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY, MOTION PASSED.
09:51:34AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
NEXT ITEM UP FOR APPROVAL, YOU HEARD THE ITEM
BACK IN MAY OF LAST YEAR.
A RESOLUTION AND GRANT AGREEMENT FOR THE SKILL CENTER ALSO
IN EAST TAMPA, 5107 NORTH STREET.
HALF A MILLION A PORTION OF THE OVERALL $23 MILLION
CONTRIBUTION IN ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR THERE ARE PROJECT.
SO WE ARE BRINGING THIS TO YOU FOR -- FOR YOUR FINAL REVIEW.
09:51:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ANY DISCUSSION.
09:52:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY.
THEY ARE DOING GREAT THINGS OUT THERE AND I FEEL THIS IS
MONEY WELL SPENT TO HELP THE YOUTH IN THE AREA.
09:52:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOTION MADE.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED?
OKAY.
MOTION PASSES.
09:52:23AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
THE LAST ITEM UP FOR APPROVAL WAS A FACADE
GRANT FOR 2208 EAST 2nd AVENUE.
YBOR BUNGALOW.
THIS IS A RETAIL USE IN THE YBOR CRA.
FACADE GRANT NOT TO EXCEED $26,048.
THIS THIS GRANT AGREEMENT -- EXCUSE ME, THIS GRANT AGREEMENT
IS THE SMALL PORTION OF THE OVERALL CONTRIBUTION.
APPROXIMATELY $200,000 OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT WILL GO INTO
THIS PROJECT AS WELL.
WE HAVE THIS BEFORE YOU TODAY.
09:52:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SO MOVED.
09:52:56AM >> SECOND.
09:52:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
TO OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
FLIP BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE.
09:53:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS TRAVIS, DO YOU NEED SOME WATER?
09:53:16AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
NO, I AM GOOD.
09:53:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I KNOW THAT LOOK.
09:53:19AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
PARDON ME, I THINK WE ARE STILL UP.
THE NEXT ITEM IS CRA FUNDING FOR PARKS.
BACK IN AUGUST LAST YEAR, YOU ASKED US TO BRING THE CRA
PARKS INTO ADA COMPLIANCE.
WE BROUGHT THE SUMMARY OF TOTALING $3,000 BACK TO YOU ALL.
YOU SENT US BACK AND SAID HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT IT?
WE SPENT TIME WORKING WITH PARK STAFF TO REVIEW THE ACTUAL
IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
SO AT THE END OF TODAY'S PRESENTATION, WE WILL BE ASKING YOU
TO ACCEPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN
AND OUR PARKS DIRECTOR SHERISHA HILLS WILL SHOW YOU THE
REDUCTION OF TIME OF THE IMPLEMENTATION ON THE CITY SIDE AND
HOW WE ACHIEVE IT WITH MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE CRA BUDGETS.
THERE IS A POWERPOINT.
SO I WILL ASK THE TEAM TO BRING UP PRESENTATION FOR ITEM
NUMBER 3.
09:54:40AM >>SHERISHA HILLS:
GOOD MORNING, SHERISHA HILLS, DIRECTOR OF
PARKS AND RECREATION.
WAIT FOR THIS POWERPOINT TO COME UP.
09:54:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE WE GO.
09:55:02AM >>SHERISHA HILLS:
THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, SO AS DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR DRUMGO MENTIONED
AUGUST 2022, THE PROJECTED COST OF PARK ACCESSIBILITY WITHIN
OUR CRAs SO WE ARE IN COMPLIANT WITH CERTAIN PARKS WITH ADA
GUIDELINES.
FURTHER IMPLEMENTATION.
SO I WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE IMPLEMENTATION.
THIS FIRST SLIDE HERE IS -- IF WE WERE NOT TO RECEIVE ANY
FUNDS WITH THE CRA.
PARKS AND REC ALONE WILL UTILIZE THE MONEY WE RECEIVE EACH
YEAR TO ADDRESS THESE PARKS IN THE CRA AREA.
IT WOULD TAKE US TO 2041.
SO WANT TO SAY THAT WE ARE IN OUR EXTERIOR.
WE ARE IN ADA COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE AND WITH WE ARE NOT
ALWAYS ACCESSIBLE.
PEOPLE THINK YOU HAVE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT GETS YOU
ACCESSIBLE.
HOW DO YOU GET TO THAT PEACE.
WHERE DO YOU PARK?
THAT PLAN WILL LOOK AT THE ACCESSIBILITY FROM THE TIME YOU
GET UP THERE AND TIME YOU GET TO THE AMENITY IN THE PARK AND
GET TO A PIECE OF PARK EQUIPMENT.
THIS PLAN ALSO HERE -- IF PARKS AND REC WERE TO DO IT ALONE,
NOT THE PLAY EQUIPMENT, BUT STRICTLY ADDRESSING THE
ACCESSIBILITY OF THESE PARKS.
WORKING WITH DEPOSIT ADMINISTRATOR DRUMGO WE CAME UP WITH A
PLAN UTILIZING CRA FUNDS.
AS SEE HERE A FIVE-YEAR -- NOT AUTO FIVE-YEAR BUT 12-YEAR
PLAN AND CUTTING THAT TIME BY SIX YEARS.
THIS PLAN INCLUDES INCLUSIVE EQUIPMENT.
NOT JUST THE ACCESSIBILITY, BUT IT IS ALSO ADDING INCLUSIVE
EQUIPMENT FOR ALL ABILITIES AT THESE AREAS.
YOU CAN SEE THIS -- AND WE NOTED HERE, THIS DOES NOT ACCOUNT
FOR INFLATION BUT PROJECTED COST TODAY HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE
US AND HOW MUCH IT WILL COST HERE IS OUR BREAKDOWN HERE BY
EACH CRA.
ACCOUNTING TAKING EACH YEAR.
WE ACCESSED EVERY SINGLE PARK THERE.
LOOKED AT THAT.
AND BROKEN TAMPA DOWN EACH YEAR BY THE NUMBER OF FUNDS WE
CAN PUT IN THERE AND WHAT THE PARKS WILL ACTUALLY GET WITH
THE FUNDS.
SO THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN THAT IS LAID OUT RIGHT HERE.
LOOK AT FIVE YEARS AT A TIME.
BASICALLY OUR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU IF WE CAN INVEST $3.
MILLION INTO THIS, THIS TAKES INTO ACCOUNT FOR THE PLAN
ALLOWING FOR COMPLIANCE WITHIN FIVE YEARS.
REDUCES OUR PLAN AT PARKS AND REC TO DO IT ALONE BY SIX
YEARS.
AND, AGAIN, ADDS 19 INCLUSIVE PLAY EQUIPMENT PIECES IN THESE
PARKS.
FOR US, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE PARKS FUNDING AS IT
IS PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY.
09:58:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
09:58:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, SHERISHA.
WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
GLAD TO SAY THIS INCLUDES PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT AND I HEAR A
LOT OF ADA ACCESSIBILITY AND THAT IS PIVOTAL.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE OF THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
SOME OF THE AREAS, EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA THE AREA, OF
COURSE, IN THE PARK THERE STARTED YEARS AGO AND PRIVATELY
THE CITY IS HELPING.
EAST TAMPA WILL BE GETTING THE LARGE RECREATIONAL INVESTMENT
THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR A WHILE WITH
THE MAY I DON'T REMEMBER.
DOWN -- I WOULD LOVE TO -- WITH THE MAY I DON'T REMEMBER.
DOWN, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HAMMER OUT DOWNTOWN AND YBOR CITY
DEFICITS I CALL THEM RELATIVELY EASIER ESPECIALLY YBOR CITY
AND THOSE AREAS DON'T HAVE OR WILL NOT HAVE IN THE NEAR
FUTURE AN ALL-INCLUSIVE PLAYGROUND.
EAST TAMPA WILL BE GETTING ONE THROUGH THE INITIATIVE I JUST
TALKED ABOUT.
WEST TAMPA APPEARS TO ALREADY HAVE ONE.
AND THOSE TWO AREAS I THINK WILL BE THE MOST NEEDED.
I DO BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING -- NUMBER ONE, GLAD TO SEE WE
ARE DOING THIS THROUGH THE CRA.
I MOVED IT TO THE CRA BECAUSE COUNCILMAN CARLSON MENTIONED
WHICH IS IMPORTANT FOR MEMORIAL CEMETERY.
WHEN WE DO THIS IT CAN BE DONE ARGUABLY IN A QUICKER WAY
WITH THE CRA.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SPEED IS IMPORTANT.
BECAUSE THIS SHOULD BE DONE.
THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE ANY OF US GOT ON COUNCIL.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY IN
YOUR FAMILY OR LOVED ONE WITH AN INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY OR
AUTISM OR PHYSICAL DISABILITY OFTEN THEY ARE EXCLUDED FROM
BEING IN OUR PARKS AND WE HAVE A WONDERFUL FACILITY IN WEST
TAMPA.
WE HAVE THE WEST TAMPA ALL ABILITIES PARK THAT YOU WORKED
HARD ON AND I THANK YOU YESTERDAY AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR
THAT.
AND MAKE SURE ALL PARTS OF THE CITY HAVE RECREATIONAL
ACTIVITIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL
DISABILITIES, AUTISM, ETC., ETC.
AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT AND SOMETHING UNIQUE TO THE CRA
BECAUSE BRING MORE PEOPLE TO THE AREAS AND PROMOTE THE AREAS
AND BENEFIT THE COMMUNITIES AND GET MORE ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY WITHIN THE CITY.
THIS IS SOMETHING GREAT.
OBVIOUSLY I SUPPORT IT 110%.
I THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS FROM
THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION AUTISM -- AUTISM FRIENDLY TAMPA TO
THE ALL ABILITIES PARK.
NOW TO THIS WHERE GOD WILLING, WILL HAD BEEN MAKING GREAT
STRIDES IN AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT US FOR HELP
TO MAKE THOSE STRIDES.
THANK YOU.
10:00:51AM >>SHERISHA HILLS:
YES, SIR.
10:00:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE ELSE.
DO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION?
10:00:57AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, I MOVE -- DO WE NEED THIS TO COME
BACK TO US AT ALL?
OKAY, COOL.
I WILL SET AN INTERNAL ONE-YEAR TIME CLOCK, SO TO SPEAK.
IF I MAY, I MAKE THE MOTION.
10:01:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
10:01:10AM >>LUIS VIERA:
TO I GUESS MOVE THE PLAN RECOMMENDED FORWARD.
YES, ACCEPT.
10:01:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
BUT BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:01:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WAS GOING TO THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE
PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.
10:01:25AM >>SHERISHA HILLS:
HOW DOES IT WHAT?
10:01:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
TIE IN TO THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.
YOU HAVE A MASTER PLAN COMING TO US SOME TIME NEXT MONTH OR
SO, RIGHT.
WE ARE TALKING OF TAKING THE CRA MONEY.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE MASTER PLAN IS FOR THE CITY AS A
WHOLE WHEN WE TALK OF THE ACCESSIBILITIES OF PARKS AND REC.
BECAUSE REMEMBER, WE CAN DO THIS, BUT THE GUIDELINES STILL
SAY CERTAIN ISSUES HAVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF BY THE CITY
VERSUS CRA FUNDING.
10:01:51AM >>SHERISHA HILLS:
I WILL TAKE A LOOK.
SO THE MASTER PLAN AS A WHOLE, YES, WE WILL LOOK AT THE
WHOLE PARK.
THESE ACCESSIBILITIES ARE FIXES THAT NEED TO BE BUILT INTO
HAD THE MASTER PLAN.
THE BREAKDOWN OF THE PARKS.
SOME MAY BE SIMPLE AS PARKING SPACES.
ACCESSIBLE RAMPS.
ONE PIECE OF PLAY EQUIPMENT.
THE MASTER PLAN WILL HOLISTICALLY AND SAY AT THIS PARK YOU
NEED TO DO THIS, THIS, AND THIS AT THIS ENTIRE PARK.
THIS WILL ADDRESS THE ACCESSIBILITY.
REALLY WE WILL BE KNOCKING OUT SOME OF THESE AHEAD OF TIME
INSTEAD OF WAIT FOR A MASTER PLAN, A 10 TOO 15-YEAR PLAN.
SHORT OF THAT TIME LINE AND ADDRESSING THESE NEEDS THAT ARE
NEEDED IMMEDIATELY.
10:02:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AM SAYING IF YOU ARE GOING TO PUT CRA
MONEY THERE.
PEOPLE WILL SAY, WHY ARE WE WAITING SO LONG.
PUTTING DOLLARS -- WE ARE NOT GOING TO WAIT WHEN THE CITY
WILL FIX THE PLAYGROUND.
IF WE SAY THAT IS MY MONEY.
I WANT THAT FIXED NOW.
THE CITY WILL SAY DO THAT FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD -- NO, IF
WE ARE GOING TO ALLOCATE DOLLARS TO GET THINGS FIXED I WANT
MY STUFF FIXED NOW.
10:03:00AM >>SHERISHA HILLS:
REMEMBER THAT THE FIXES ON THE EQUIPMENT
ARE NOT THE ENTIRE PLAYGROUND.
ADDING ONE OR TWO PIECES.
10:03:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HAVE NO PROBLEM, BUT AS LONG AS YOU KNOW
-- WHAT I AM SAYING IF I AM GIVING YOU MY MONEY AND YOU ARE
TELLING ME THIS IS NEEDED AT THIS PARTICULAR PLAYGROUND.
I WANT MY STUFF FIXED NOW.
I DON'T WANT TO WAIT FIVE OR SIX YEARS.
I WANT IT NOW.
10:03:19AM >>SHERISHA HILLS:
IT IS A PLAN.
EVERY YEAR, WHAT WILL BE ADDRESSED AND THEN YOU WILL HAVE
THOSE PARKS LAID OUT.
FIRST YEAR WEST TAMPA WHICH I CAN DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE
BIT IS PART OF -- WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CRA AND THE RAY
PARK.
THAT PLAN IS GOING INTO PLACE.
WE ARE ALREADY USING CRA DOLLARS APPROVED BEFORE AND SOME OF
THESE THINGS ARE ALREADY IN THE WORKS WHICH ARE THERE.
SOME OF THEM ARE LARGER FIXES BUT SOME OF THEM ARE TRULY
SMALLER, ACCESSIBLE THINGS TO GET TO THAT PARK AND TO BE
ABLE TO ENJOY THAT FACILITY.
10:03:53AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
JUST A REMINDER TO THE BOARD THAT CRA FUNDS
CAN ONLY BE SPENT ON CRA FACILITIES WITHIN THE CRA.
THEY CAN NOT -- THE CITY CANNOT DIVERT THE FUNDS TO OTHER
PROJECTS.
10:04:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION?
OKAY.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
MOTION PASSES.
10:04:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:04:25AM >>LUIS VIERA:
NOT ON THIS AT ALL.
IT IS FOR MISS TRAVIS.
SOME COMMENTS WERE MADE.
I DON'T THINK I WAS HERE DURING THAT -- I WAS OUTSIDE.
BUT I WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH I -- I KNOW HOW MUCH WE
APPRECIATE NICOLE TRAVIS.
HER INTEGRITY.
HER SINCERITY.
HER PASSION.
HER HARD WORK THAT SHE BRINGS HERE FOR THE CRA AND THE CITY.
SOMEBODY CALLED ME ON SOMETHING THIS MORNING.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HER AND ABOUT YOU AND WHAT AN AMAZING
-- YOU KNOW MY SENTIMENTS.
I WANT TO KNOW THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR SINCERITY, PASSION ON
ALL ISSUES INCLUDING MEMORIAL CEMETERY YOU COME FORWARD AS A
PROFESSIONAL, A PERSON WITH GREAT SINCERITY.
10:05:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
10:05:08AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:05:10AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SECOND THAT ALSO.
I APPRECIATE YOUR ACCESSIBILITY AND BRILLIANCE ON ISSUE AND
HONESTY AND INTEGRITY.
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, SHE IS STILL DOING THREE OR
FOUR JOBS.
ONE OF THEM LIKE THREE OR FOUR FULL-TIME JOBS.
THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP.
10:05:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
INDEED, THEY SPEAK THE TRUTH.
AND I THINK THEY SPEAK FOR ALL OF US ON HOW MUCH WE
APPRECIATE YOUR ACCESSIBILITY FOR US AND YOUR TRUTH.
I THINK THAT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE THINGS ABOUT YOU IS THAT
YOU DON'T SUGAR COAT WHICH IS WHAT WE ALL NEED.
WE JUST WANT TO GET THINGS DONE.
SPEAKING OF.
10:05:46AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SPEAKING OF.
ALL RIGHT, MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD, I HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR
YOU.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT OVER TIME SINCE WE WENT
THROUGH THE RECRUITMENT OF THE CRA DIRECTOR.
I AM PRESENTING YOU TO A RESTRUCTURING AND STAFFING AND
EFFICIENCY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE CRA AS AN AGENCY.
I AM GOING TO WALK THROUGH SEVERAL STEPS WITH YOU.
I DO HAVE A SLIDE SHOW.
10:06:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S UP.
10:06:14AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ALL RIGHT, PERFECT.
WITH THIS RESTRUCTURING OF ALL YOUR NINE DIFFERENT -- EIGHT
DISTRICTS, YBOR ONE AND TWO MAKES IT NINE.
YOU HAVE OVER 8300 ACRES IN YOUR CITY FOR -- DEDICATED TO
REDEVELOPMENT WORK.
OF THE LARGEST OF THEM IS THE EAST TAMPA CRA DISTRICT WHICH
IS THE DISTRICT THAT HAS THE GREATEST NEED THAT DISTRICT IS
OVER 4800 ACRES.
YOU WILL SEE THE DIFFERENT SIZES OF BUDGET.
WE LOOK AT NEEDS, HOW THE CRA AS A DEPARTMENT IS STRUCTURED.
FOR AS LONG AS I CAN TELL THE CRA HAS AS AN AGENCY HAS BEEN
SEGMENTED IN GEOGRAPHIC AREAS.
YOU HAVE A CRA MANAGER.
THEY WORK IN SILOS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
EACH OTHER'S STRENGTHS AND EXPERIENCES FOR THE OVERALL
DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 15 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.
AT ONE POINT UP 21 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND I AM NOT SURE
WHERE WE LOST THEM ALONG THE WAY.
SOMETHING TO CONSIDER CRA MANAGERS IN EACH DISTRICT AND ALSO
IN THREE DIFFERENT PHYSICAL OFFICES.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT IS THE NUMBER
OF MEETINGS THAT THE CRA MANAGERS AND THE STAFF SUPPORT FOR
INCLUDING THE CACS.
I WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CAC MEETINGS AND
SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS.
CAC MEETINGS, THOSE ARE PUBLICLY NOTICED AND MINUTES HAVE TO
BE TAKEN.
SO ARE THE SUBCOMMITTEES.
YOU LOOK AT ANY ONE OF THE DISTRICTS AND THE CAC MEETINGS
AND SUBCOMMITTEE MEETINGS.
WE ARE TALKING OVER 287 MEETINGS ANNUALLY.
IF YOU WERE TO MULTIPLY THAT BY TWO HOURS FOR A MEETING.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE TIME IT TAKES TO FOLLOW UP ON
MOTIONS.
WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE TIME IN APPLICATION ITEMS 861
DAYS OF STAFF TIME.
WHEN HEAR OF WHY THINGS ARE TAKING SO LONG, WE ARE
SUPPORTING A LOT OF MEETINGS.
IN CONTEXT, A CITY COUNCIL IN YOUR CAPACITY OF CRA AND CITY
COUNCIL MEETINGS.
COMBINATION AND NIGHT MEETINGS, 84 MEETING ANNUALLY.
LOOK AT THAT IN COMPARISON OF THE 287 MEETINGS AT THE CRA IS
HAVING.
IT IS INEFFICIENT AND MAKES IT DIFFICULTY TO GET THINGS
DONE.
A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES LOST AND OPPORTUNITY COST WHEN IT
COMES TO THE CAPITAL.
WE HAVE GOALS THAT WE SIMILAR GOALS AND PROGRAMS ARE BEING
ADMINISTERED DIFFERENTLY.
ONE THING THAT DEVELOPERS WANT ANYONE INVESTING IN IT IS
STRICT, THEY WANT CERTAINTY.
WE CAN'T PROVIDE CERTAINTY BECAUSE WE ARE OPERATING A
PROGRAM DIFFERENT IN EACH ONE OF THE DISTRICTS.
PROBLEMATIC EFFICACY.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WORKING AND WHAT IS NOT WORKIN
WE ARE NOT ABLE TO MEASURE OUR SUCCESS AND CHANGE POLICIES
BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL THE SAME.
AGAIN WE HAVE A COMMON -- WE KNOW WE HAVE A COMMON GOAL.
WE WANTS AREAS OF DISINVESTMENT TO BE HEAVILY INVESTED ON
AND RAISE THAT TIDE.
RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHICH PROGRAMS ARE WORKING,
WHICH ONES AREN'T WORKING BECAUSE OF THE GEOGRAPHICAL SILOS.
LACK OF COOPERATION AND THE NOT CONSISTENT POLICIES.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE PUBLIC TRUST, I THINK THAT OVER TIME
WHEN THINGS NOT GETTING DONE WE ERODE THE PUBLIC'S TRUST
BECAUSE THINGS ARE NOT MOVING FAST ENOUGH.
WE ARE HONESTLY TRYING, BUT IF WE CAN ALIGN POLICIES AND BE
CONSISTENT IN THE SHARED COMMON GOAL ACROSS ALL DISTRICTS WE
WILL START TO RESTORE SOME OF THE PUBLIC TRUST IN US DOING
THE WORK.
IT WAS MENTIONED THIS MORNING WE HAVE A LOT MONEY IN OUR CRA
BUDGET THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPENT.
THAT HAS BEEN ATTRIBUTED TO GETTING THE PROGRAMS OUT.
BEING ABLE TO SPEND THE MONEY AND RECRUIT INVESTMENT INTO
THE DISTRICTS.
BEING ABLE TO BE TALK TO BUSINESS OWNERS THAT WANT TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS.
AND SO HAVING $100 MILLION IN OUR CRA BUDGET, IN MY OPINION,
IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
WE NEED TO GET THE MONEY OUT AND DO THE WORK OF WHAT THE
STATE STATUTE DICTATES THAT WE SHOULD DO.
AND I HAVE GENERAL OBSERVATIONS TO SET US ON THIS NEW
TRAJECTORY, IF YOU WILL.
THIS IS NOT ME TRYING TO SLOW YOU DOWN.
THIS IS NOT ME TRYING TO FORCE A WILL, IT IS JUST
OBSERVATION OF WHY THINGS ARE NOT MOVING AND JUST HAVING A
SERIOUS AND HARD CONVERSATION ABOUT THE STRATEGIC DIRECTION
FROM THE CRA BOARD.
IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED SEVERAL TIME HAVE A RETREAT OF SOME
KIND WITH THIS BOARD.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT OFTENTIMES, THE MOTION YOU MAKE AS
A CRA BOARD ARE NOT NECESSARILY CONSISTENT WITH THE MOTIONS
THAT ARE BEING MADE AT THE CAC LEVEL.
THEY OFTEN ARE IN CONFLICT OR NOT AT THE SAME PACE THAT YOU
WANT PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS MOVED OUT.
WE WOULD BENEFIT FROM POLICY AND GOVERNANCE.
REORGANIZING THE DEPARTMENT SO WE ARE USING PEOPLE IN THE
RIGHT -- PUTTING PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT PLACES.
INCREASING STAFF CAPACITY, RELOCATION OF ALL STAFF UNDER ONE
ROOF IN SUPPORT.
THE STAFF SUPPORT OF CRA MEETINGS.
I WILL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I HOPE YOU WOULD CONSIDER THEM.
AND IF YOU CAN, MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE US SOME DIRECTION ON
HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
THE END OF THE DAY THE WAY WE ARE OPERATING RIGHT NOW IS NOT
IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE AGENCY.
SO RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 1 IS FOR THE STRATEGIC DIRECTION.
I AM RECOMMENDING THAT IF YOU MUST -- IF YOU EXPECT COME UP
WITH ANOTHER DAY, CANCEL ONE OF YOUR REGULAR CRA MEETINGS
AND USE THAT MEETING FOR A DAY RETREAT THAT IS FACILITATED
BY AN OUTSIDE FACILITATOR.
I PUT TWO DATES FOR US TO DO THAT BOARD RETREAT.
AT THAT RETREAT, I THINK WE CAN DISCUSS POLICY AND
GOVERNANCE IN.
I WILL GET TO THAT ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE OR WANT ME TO GO
THROUGH THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION?
10:13:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO THROUGH ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS FIRST
BEFORE MAKING A DECISION.
10:13:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GO THROUGH ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE CAN
GO BACK TO THE SLIDE RECOMMENDATION.
THAT WAY WE KIND OF HAVE A MORE HOLISTIC IDEA.
10:13:26AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
PERFECT.
THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT STRATEGIC DIRECTION
RETREAT.
AND THEN RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO FROM A CONSISTENT POLICY
GOVERNANCE TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON CREATING ANY NEW PROGRAMS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW PROGRAMS IN EACH ONE OF THE CRA
DISTRICT.
WE NEED TO REALIGN THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE CONSISTENT.
SOME PROGRAMS CAN BE USED IN OTHER CRA DISTRICTS AND WE NEED
THE TIME.
PUT A MORATORIUM ON WHY YOU PROGRAMS UNTIL WE CAN ALIGN THE
POLICIES.
GRAND AND TO POLICY ALIGNMENT FOR THE AND GOVERNMENT
AND BYLAWS FOR ALL DISTRICTS.
I SHOWED YOU A SLIDE BEFORE WITH THE TABLE, YOU SEE THAT THE
EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP IS A MEETING THAT OUR STAFF ALSO
SERVICES THAT MEETING IN ADDITION TO SUBCOMMITTEES.
YBOR AND EAST TAMPA ARE ELECTED POSITIONS OPPOSED TO THE
OTHERS.
NOT CONSISTENCY IN THE LENGTH OF TIME THE CLEAR PERSON OF
THE CAC IS ON THE BOARD WHICH WITH THAT LACK OF CONTINUITY
OR -- IT BREAKS MOMENTUM.
SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE HAVE CONSISTENT BYLAWS AND
GOVERNANCE FOR ALL DISTRICTS.
THE THIRD IS REORGANIZING THE DEPARTMENT AS A WHOLE, LOOKING
AT -- INSTEAD OF HAVING THEM GEOGRAPHICALLY SEGMENTED OUT
ONE FOR YBOR.
ONE FOR CHANNELSIDE.
WE SEPARATE -- WE NOT SEPARATE, BUT DIFFERENT AREAS THAT ARE
DEDICATED TO POLICY AND PLANNING, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
FISCAL OPERATIONS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.
ALSO PROGRAM -- EXCUSE ME NOT PROGRAM, PROJECT MANAGEMENT
AND HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
SO THESE ARE THE GENERAL CATEGORIES THAT THE CRA -- AND TRUE
IN ALL OF THE DISTRICTS.
YOU JUST HAVE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE WORKING ON THEM.
AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF EXPERTISE.
IF WE BREAK IT DOWN THIS WAY, THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT
EXPERTISE IN THE RIGHT AREA TO HELP MOVE THE PROGRAMS ALONG.
THAT IS THAT BREAKDOWN I AM SHOWING YOU FOR THE
REORGANIZATION OF THE DEPARTMENT.
HAVING POLICY AND PLANNING.
TWO FULL-TIME POSITIONS.
PROJECT MANAGEMENT, THREE POSITIONS.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, FOUR.
FISCAL OPERATIONS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.
LET ME JUST STOP A SECOND FOR AS SET MANAGEMENT.
ONE THING WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR FROM THIS BOARD IS OUR
NEED TO PURSUE STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS OF PROPERTY ALONG --
ALONG CERTAIN CORRIDORS OR EVEN FOR RESIDENTIAL.
SO THIS IS REALLY BUILDING US UP TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THE
ASSETS AS WE ACQUIRE THEM.
AND THEN HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
ONE OF OUR GREATEST NEEDS IN OUR DISTRICT AND TRUE TO YOUR
BOLDNESS, IF YOU WILL, AS A CRA BOARD, MAKING THAT DECISION
TO ALLOCATE 30% OF HOUSING FUNDS -- FUNDS FOR HOUSING
AFFORDABILITY.
BEING ABLE TO STAFF UP IN THAT POSITION.
MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADD EIGHT POSITIONS.
NOT ALL AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET THE RIGHT
PEOPLE IN THE RIGHT ROLE.
I ANTICIPATE THAT WE CAN ADD THREE IN FISCAL YEAR '23 WITH
THE BUDGET YOU HAVE ALREADY APPROVED AND THEN FIVE GOING
FORWARD IN FISCAL YEAR '24.
SORRY.
I HAD ANIMATION ON MY SLIDE.
LET'S SEE.
IN ADDITION TO THE REORGANIZATION, I -- WE ARE NOT
RECOMMENDING TO HIRE THESE PEOPLE ALL AT ONCE.
WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE CAPACITY ADDED.
WE CAN ADD CAPACITY USING A CONSULTANT THAT CAN HELP US WITH
PROJECT AND OPERATIONAL SERVICES.
IF I CAN JUST PAUSE FOR A SECOND TO SAY THAT IF -- ONCE WE
ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT CHANGE, YOU CAN'T DO IT ALL AT
ONCE.
YOU CAN'T JUST STOP SERVING THE CRA DISTRICT.
WE HAVE TO CONTINUE SERVING THE DISTRICT.
CONTINUE THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND CAN ADD THAT
CAPACITY AND DO THIS BALANCING ACT WITH HIRING A CONSULTANT
TO HELP US WITH DATA MANAGEMENT, PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND
PRODUCT AND OPERATIONAL SERVICES.
AS WE STAFF UP AND TRAIN AND GET THE RIGHT STAFF IN THE
RIGHT PLACE.
NOT A LONG-TERM ASK, BUT SOMETHING IN THAT TRANSITION
PERIOD.
THEN ULTIMATELY, THE CONSULTANT.
WE CAN HAVE THEM HELP US WITH THE ULTIMATE RECRUITMENT OF
YOUR CRA DIRECTOR.
AND LASTLY, THE LAST RECOMMENDATION IS TO COLLOCATE THE CRA
STAFF.
TERMINATE EXISTING LEASE AGREEMENTS, OPERATIONAL PURCHASES
-- MO MOVE FORWARD FOR OPERATIONAL PURCHASES FOR
COLLOCATION.
THAT MEANS CUBICLE FURNITURE.
IF WE PUT THEM ALL -- WE MAY NEED TO PURCHASE CUBICLE
FURNITURE.
THAT KIND OF STUFF.
COLLOCATE THE STAFFING TO ONE LOCATION, WE HAVE THE BENEFIT
OF A CULTURE OF COLLABORATION, BEING ABLE TO -- LIKE YOU
SAID, WATER COOLER TALK.
WHAT PROBLEMS ARE YOU WORKING ON.
HOW CAN I HELP STEP IN.
RIGHT NOW WE CANNOT DO THAT HAVING STAFF AT THREE DIFFERENT
LOCATIONS.
THIS IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
10:18:40AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I SAW ONE THAT HAD A LONGER ORGANIZATIONAL.
10:18:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE YOU GO.
10:18:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT ONE.
WE MISSED THAT ONE.
10:18:51AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THIS IS THE ONE WHERE WE ARE SHOWING YOU
THE SAME OFFICE SUPPORT STAFF THAT PETITION WITH WE HAVE A
POSITION FOR MARKETING.
BUT BREAKING DOWN -- INSTEAD OF THE GEOGRAPHICAL, BUT
BREAKING DOWN BY POLICY, PROJECT MANAGEMENT.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE IS WHAT YOU HAVE NOW WITH
YOUR CRA MANAGERS, LIAISONS TO THE CAC, HEARING WITH THE
COMMUNITY AND WORKING WITH OUR CACS.
FISCAL AND OPERATIONS MANAGEMENT WHAT I MENTIONED WITH
STAFFING UP TO BE ABLE TO STRATEGICALLY -- DO STRATEGIC
ACQUISITIONS AND THE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
THIS IS THE ONE YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
10:19:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
10:19:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF WE CAN GO BACK TO RECOMMENDATION NUMBER
ONE AND START THERE, IF THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE.
A LITTLE MORE ORGANIZED.
OKAY, SO --
10:19:48AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ANY FEEDBACK OR ANY COMMENTS.
10:19:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I BELIEVE I SAW BOARD MEMBER CARLSON'S HAND.
10:19:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TALKING ABOUT EACH ONE AT A TIME.
I MADE A MOTION FOR THIS ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO AND I THINK
IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED AND I THINK WE BROUGHT IT UP
AGAIN A YEAR LATER.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO THIS.
GOOD IDEA TO HOLD IT AFTER THE NEW BOARD IS SEATED JUST IN
CASE ANYTHING CHANGES.
BUT I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO DO THIS.
WE HAVE GOT TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE.
AN EXAMPLE IS THAT MOST OF THE CACS DID NOT COME BACK ASKING
US ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT WE KNOW LOOKING CITYWIDE IT
IS A HUGE PROCESS AND WE NEED TO PUT MONEY AND WE ALL AGREED
TO DO THAT.
WE NEED TO THINK STRATEGICALLY AND PROVIDE PARAMETERS WITHIN
WHAT THE LAW ALLOWS.
I THINK SOMETIMES IN THE PAST, THEY MAY HAVE STRETCHED IT A
LITTLE BIT.
AND WE STAY WITHIN SOLVING SLUM AND BLIGHT, HOUSING,
AFFORDABILITY, AND DISEASE.
I THINK WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME VERY FOCUSED PROGRAMS THAT
WILL HELP SOLVE PROBLEMS.
THANK YOU.
10:20:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:20:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA BECAUSE I KNOW
WHEN I WENT TO THE ASHEVILLE CRA CONFERENCE, ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW -- IT IS CRITICAL THAT BOARD
MEMBERS -- THAT BOARD MEMBERS GO TO THAT CONFERENCE SO YOU
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PARAMETERS OF CRA ARE ABOUT.
I THINK THAT IS REALLY NECESSARY.
10:21:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY -- MY RECOMMENDATION LOOKING AT THE
CALENDAR WOULD BE FOR JUNE 8.
BECAUSE MAY 16, WE ALREADY HAVE SOME ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
10:21:31AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THE MAY 11.
10:21:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAY 11.
WE ALREADY HAVE ITEMS ON THAT AGENDA.
LOOKS LIKE NOW THAT JUNE 8 WAS WIDE OPEN.
NICK IT WAS JUST RECOMMENDATIONS.
EITHER WAY, IT DOESN'T --
10:21:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
10:21:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I MAKE A MOTION OF ACCEPTING
RECOMMENDATION 1 FOR JUNE 8 SINCE IT WAS OPEN AND THE NEW
COUNCIL WILL BE SEATED.
10:21:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
10:21:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED?
OKAY.
MOTION PASSED.
10:22:08AM >>Nick:
JUST TO BE CLEAR.
YOU ARE OKAY TO HAVE AN OUTSIDE FACILITATOR TO HELP US BRING
THIS UP.
10:22:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:22:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST EXPERIENCE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION AND THEN WITH CITY COUNCIL, WE NEED TO GET A
FACILITATOR WHO CAN TAKE CONTROL AND MANAGE AND WE NEED THE
RULES SET IN ADVANCE.
AND IF IT IS A CONTENT EXPERT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT
THEY FACILITATE AND MAYBE LAYER IN OBJECTIVE CONTENT, NOT
TRY TO STEER IT IN ANY WAY.
10:22:43AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ABSOLUTELY.
10:22:45AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE HAVE SEEN THAT KIND OF THING IN THE PAST.
THANK YOU.
10:22:48AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GOT IT.
THANK YOU.
RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO IS TO REALLY GET US IN LINE WITH
THE POLICY ON GOVERNANCE.
WOULD LIKE A MORATORIUM OF CREATING NEW PROGRAMS.
WE HAVE AN ABUNDANCE OF PROGRAMS IN PLACE NOW NOT BEING
UTILIZED THE WAY -- OR MARKETED IN AN EFFORT -- IN A
COLLECTIVE EFFORT.
SO WE CAN IF PAUSE OF CREATING ANY NEW PROGRAMS RIGHT NOW
UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE OUR RETREAT, REALIGN OUR POLICIES I
WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
10:23:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:23:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS A GOOD IDEA AND WE HAVE A LOT ON
OUR PLATE AND THE CRA IS DOING A LOT.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE OBSTACLES WE ARE TRYING TO OVERCOME
INSTEAD OF PILING ON BECAUSE WE WILL LOSE OUR FOCUS AND
SPREAD OURSELVES THINNER.
UNSPENT DOLLARS FOR HOUSING THAT IS A FOCUS ON THAT AND
OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE ALREADY WORKING ON.
CATCH UP AND THEN AFTER THAT RETREAT WHEN WE CAN HAVE THIS
DISCUSSION WITH THE FACILITATOR, WE CAN REVISIT NEW THINGS
AND SEE WHERE WE ARE AT.
I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
10:24:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:24:11AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AGREE WITH THAT TOO.
FOR THE RETREAT, CONTENT EXPERT FOR A HOUR.
MORRIS WILL BE A CONTENT EXPERT ON THE LAW IF HE IS WILLING
TO DO IT.
CONTENT EXPERT ON PROGRAMMING FROM FPR AND WHATEVER IT IS
CALLED TO TALK OF INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS.
I THINK -- THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE MIGHT I THINK WE
SHOULD RELOOK AT ALL THE EXISTING PROGRAMS.
I MADE A MOTION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO TO LIMIT FACADE GRANT
TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND THAT FAILED.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT AGAIN BECAUSE WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT
WHERE IS THE BEST USE OF MONEY.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, I THINK WE NEED TO TIE THE PROGRAMS TO
OUTCOMES INSTEAD OF OUTPUT.
SO AN OUTPUT IS THAT THE FACADE HAS CHANGED.
THE OUTCOME THAT THE MEDIUM HOUSEHOLD INCOME IN THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD WENT, YOU, RIGHT.
SO NOT THAT WE HAVE DIRECT INFLUENCE OVER THAT.
BUT WE NEED TO BE TRACKING THAT.
USF OFFERED THREE YEARS AGO AND NOBODY ON THE ADMINISTRATION
TOOK US UP.
BUT USF OFFERED FOR FREE TO GIVE THEIR DATA AND ANALYTICS
PEOPLE TO HELP US MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THE NUMBERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY KNOWS, BUT THE LATEST DATA SHOWS
THAT -- ONE DATA POINT.
IN 2019, THE DISPARITY IN ST. PETE BETWEEN BLACKS AND WHITES
WAS 15,000.
IN TAMPA, 21,000.
NOW IT IS 35,000.
SO THE NUMBERS HAVE GOTTEN WORSE WHILE DURING THE TIME 100
MILLION IN THE BANK, THE PROBLEM, DISPARITY NUMBER IS GOTTEN
WORSE.
AND WE GOT TO QUICKLY CHANGE THESE.
BUT WE CAN'T BE -- IT IS LIKE A COMPANY THAT SAYS, OH, LET'S
LAUNCH A NEW PRODUCT.
IF YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO PROFIT OR SHAREHOLDER VALUE,
THEN IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER THE -- WHETHER YOU THINK THE
PRODUCT WAS SUCCESSFUL OR NOT.
WE NEED TO STAY FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY OUTCOMES TO MOVE THE
NEEDLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES TO MAKE THEM MORE SUCCESSFUL.
CAN'T BE AD VALOREM TAXES.
WE HOOK AT IT ECONOMICALLY, NOT JUST WITH REAL ESTATE.
THANK YOU.
10:26:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL ALSO MENTION THAT WHEN -- WHEN WE
SHARE THIS WITH THE PUBLIC, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
WE SHARE THIS WITH CAC MEMBERS, WHAT KIND OF TIMELINE ARE WE
CONSIDERING.
10:26:44AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
MORATORIUM, YOU MEAN?
10:26:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED WE
AREN'T GOING AS FAST.
WHEEL THIS WILL HELP WITH THE RESTRUCTURING TO SPEED THINGS
UP, IT IS NOT -- FOR A TIME, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO JUST
HIT A LITTLE BIT OF A PAUSE ON CREATION.
BUT THAT -- SO IT WILL BE GREAT IF WE CAN GIVE SOME TPD OF
EXPECTATION -- AGAIN, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE, YOU KNOW,
HARD AND FAST, BUT WE EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE NEW PROGRAMS
UP IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER.
AND TO PROVIDE.
THIS DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE STOPPING CREATING NEW PROGRAMS AND
I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO HEAR THAT.
10:27:30AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I WOULD RECOMMEND MAYBE PAUSING ANY NEW
PROGRAMS AT LEAST UNTIL SEPTEMBER BECAUSE YOU HAVE A RETREAT
IN JUNE.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE ARE GOING TO TOO TOY ALIGN THESE -- THE
POLICIES AND THE PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE NOW.
AND LET ME JUST MAKE SURE THAT I AM CLEAR.
THIS IS JUST A MORATORIUM ON CREATING ANY NEW PROGRAMS.
EXISTING PROGRAMS WE WILL SERVICE THEM.
IF WE HAVE AN APPLICANT, WE WILL TECH THEM IN AND MOVE THOSE
PROGRAMS IT SHALL THOSE GRANT APPLICATIONS ALONG.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND RIGHT NOW FOR SEPTEMBER OR JULY -- I
MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU, BUT AT LEAST
RIGHT NOW, PAUSE FOR CREATING ANY NEW PROGRAMS UNTIL
SEPTEMBER SO WE CAN GET WITH THE POLICY ALIGNMENT WITH THE
EXISTING PROGRAMS.
HAVE THE RETREAT IN JUNE.
AND SEE IF THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL DIRECTION YOU HAVE AGAIN
US BASED ON THE GRANT AND PROGRAM POLICY ALIGNMENTS.
10:28:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ABOUT JUST THE BEGINNING OF THE NEXT
FISCAL YEAR?
10:28:30AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD START.
OCTOBER 1.
10:28:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM SEPTEMBER.
10:28:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:28:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE THINGS SITTING
ON THE SHELF IS ALIGNING WITH THE NEEDS AND MAKE SURE WE
IMPLEMENT IT.
10:28:46AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SURE.
ONE OF THE THINGS -- WE ARE TALKING OF GRANT AND PROGRAM
POLICY ALIGNMENT.
OTHER THING WE WILL TO DO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT IS WHAT
ARE THE OUTCOMES IN THE -- WHAT ARE THE OUTCOME AND NOT
NECESSARILY THE OUTFITS.
IS IT DOING THE WORK WE WANT IT TO DO.
I BELIEVE IF WE DO THE POLICY ASSESSMENT ALIGNMENT WITH THE
GRANT PROGRAMS, WE WILL COME WITH YOU WITH RECOMMENDATIONS
TO SUNSET SOME PROGRAMS OR MAKE MODIFICATION FOR PROGRAMS
THAT ARE NOT LET CAN THE TARGET AND FACADE IMPROVEMENT
GRANT.
DOING WHAT WE INTEND FOR IT TO DO.
HAVE THINGS CHANGE THE.
OFTENTIMES A PROGRAM IS IN PLACE FOR SOME TIMES AND NOT
NECESSARILY IN PLACE THE SAME WAY AND YOU MAY WANT TO CHANGE
IT.
10:29:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AGREED WITH THE FACADE.
LOOKING AT SOME AREAS, PEOPLE COULD HAVE A CAPITAL THAT WILL
DO CERTAIN THINGS.
OTHER PEOPLE DON'T AND THE KIDS, TO GIVE THEM CAPITAL TO BE
ABLE TO DO THE PROGRAM -- TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE WITH
THE COMMUNITY OR THE BUSINESSES AND WHATEVER.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT.
I DON'T HAVE THOSE MATCHING DOLLARS TO GET THERE, BUT YOU
KNOW I HAVE A NEED.
HOW WE BALANCE THIS NEED TO HELP THIS PERSON.
TO WE NEED TO CHANGE SOME CRITERIA?
WHAT DO WE TO DO HELP THEM WITH THE NEED.
10:30:07AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
IF I MAY --
10:30:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS GOING TO AGREE AND SAY BY DOING THIS
AND REALIGNING MAKING SURE OUR PROGRAMS MATCH THROUGHOUT,
THAT IT IS JUST EASIER TO DISCUSS, TO IMPLEMENT.
SO I -- I 100% AGREE.
10:30:26AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON
MORATORIUM ON CREATING NEW PROGRAMS UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF
THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.
GRANT PROGRAM POLICY ALIGNMENT SEEMS LIKE CONSENSUS ON THAT.
IF YOU GIVE ME TWO MINUTES ON GIVING ME SOME DISCUSSION ON
THE CAC GOVERNANCE AND BYLAWS.
WE BROUGHT TO YOU SEVERAL TIMES.
UP DON'T EXPECT A DECISION, BUT GIVE US GUIDANCE AND IN THE
RETREAT.
THIS CAME UP NUMEROUS TIMES.
YOUR PREVIOUS DIRECTOR BROUGHT RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.
MORRIS HAS.
I NEED FOR YOU GIVE ME MORE DIRECTION.
10:31:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:31:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GOVERNS AND POLICIES FOR THE CRA, THE CRAS
THIS HAVE THE SAME SO THEY RUN AND DON'T HAVE AN UNBALANCED
SCALE.
YBOR AND WEST TAMPA THE DALE IS UNBALANCED.
SOMETIMES AN EVENING MEETING WITH THE PARTNERSHIP.
THE PARTNERSHIP NEEDS TO DO THIS AND IT IS CONFUSING AND
PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND AND THAT IS WHY A LOT OF STUFF, YOU
CAN'T GET DONE.
THE IN FIGHTING.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A BLANKET.
10:31:39AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YOU ARE SUGGESTING THAT THE SAME GOVERNANCE
THAT -- THE SAME GOVERNANCE THAT DICTATES.
THE OTHER TWO CACS BE CONSISTENT FOR EAST TAMPA AND YBOR.
THE TWO OUTLIERS. N
IS THERE CONSENSUS ON THAT?
10:31:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:31:59AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WE WILL SHAPE STUFF AND BRING IT TO YOU A
ALONG THE WAY.
I AM NOT ASKING FOR A DECISION HARD AND FAST.
WE MAY BRING -- ONCE WE START WORK ON IT WE BRING IT AS ONE
OF THE TOPICS YOU TALKED ABOUT COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT IN THE RETREAT.
10:32:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT WITH THIS
GOES TO COMMUNICATION.
AND I KNOW WE SAW ON THE FLOW CHART A FOCUS ON
COMMUNICATION.
AND I THINK THAT IS AN AREA WHERE WE ARE HEARING FROM A LOT
OF COMMUNITY THAT THEY DON'T KNOW THOSE THINGS ARE GOING ON.
IF WE HAVE SOME CONSISTENT GOVERNANCE AND BYLAWS SO THAT WE
CAN SHARE THINGS, JUST ACROSS THE CRA FROM -- FROM OUR
SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS.
FROM POSTING.
I THINK THAT WILL SAVE A LOT OF TIME AND MAKE IT MORE
CONSISTENT.
10:32:59AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES.
YOU WILL HEAR YOU A LITTLE BIT LATER.
ONE THING FROM HER PRESENTATION.
ONE OF THE THINGS I HEARD YOU LOUD AND CLEAR THAT PEOPLE
NEED TO KNOW THAT THEIR CRA DOLLARS ARE AT WORK.
THE CRA NEEDS TO BE MARKETED AS PARTNER WHETHER A CRA-LED OR
SUPPLEMENTING FUNDS, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT THE CRA IS
PARTICIPATING IN THAT.
SOME OF THE PRESENTATION THIS AFTERNOON IS TO GET THAT
CONSISTENT MESSAGE AND JUST A LOGO AND START TO BUILD OUR
MARKETING STRATEGY AROUND THAT.
BUT -- AND HOW WE SUPPORT THE DISTRICT AS WELL.
SO -- IF I CAN GET A MOTION.
10:33:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WOULD YOU LIKE A MOTION?
10:33:43AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES, I WOULD LIKE A MOTION ON EVERYTHING.
10:33:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY.
TO THAT POINT, COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS TALKED ABOUT THIS.
I TALKED ABOUT THIS.
IF PEOPLE DON'T VISUALLY SEE WHERE THEIR DOLLARS ARE GOING
TO, THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
MISS TRAVIS, A BEG SIGN IN FRONT OF EVERY PROJECT THAT CRA
DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT ON.
THIS IS YOUR CRA DOLLARS AT WORK.
IF THEY DON'T SEE IT, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
10:34:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:34:20AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST -- I WANT TO SAY -- NOT A COMMENT
ABOUT YOU, I OBJECT TO ANYONE SAYING THAT CRA BOARD HAS NOT
MADE DECISIONS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
WE MADE DECISIONS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN ANY
DECISIONS.
IF A STAFF MEMBER NEEDS US TO MAKE A DECISION, WE MAKE IT
WITH A QUICK VOTE.
AND WE HAVE TAKEN THE INITIATIVE WITH MANY THINGS THAT
DIDN'T GET DONE.
AND IF STAFF WANTED US TO MAKE A DECISION ON SOMETHING, THEY
COULD HAVE ASKED US TO MAKE A VOTE JUST LIKE YOU ARE RIGHT
NOW.
I DON'T -- THERE HAS BEEN NO LACK OF DECISIVENESS ON THIS
BOARD.
WE MOVED VERY QUICKLY AND DID REMARKABLE AND AMAZING THINGS
IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
THANK YOU.
10:35:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:35:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I ALSO BELIEVE IN ANOTHER THING.
A PICTURE IS MORE THAN 1,000 WORDS.
YOU TAKE THE PICTURE BEFORE AND AFTER.
NOT ONLY ONE, BUT MANY AND PUT A COLLAGE OUT AND TAKE IT AND
SHOW IT TO A PUBLIC WHEN YOU HAVE A MEETING BECAUSE IT
ENERGIZES SOMEBODY ELSE.
IT REALLY DOES.
10:35:24AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GLAD YOU SAID THAT.
WHEN WE REACH OUT TO YOU TO TAKE THE PICTURE, MAKE SURE YOU
RETURN MY CALL.
I AM ONLY KIDDING.
10:35:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
10:35:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE NEED A MOTION FOR WHAT SPECIFICALLY.
10:35:37AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ASKING FOR A MOTION TO DO A MORATORIUM ON
CREATING NEW UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2024.
OCTOBER 1, 2023.
GRANT --
10:35:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO AND
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
MOTION PASSES.
ANYTHING ELSE?
10:36:00AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I DON'T REALLY -- I AM TRYING TO THINK -- I
DON'T REALLY THINK I NEED A MOTION FOR THE GRANT PROGRAM AND
POLICY ALIGNMENT.
ANY DECISIONS -- DO I NEED A MOTION?
10:36:12AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I DON'T THINK WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE A
SPECIFIC MOTION NEEDS TO BE MADE.
I THINK THE MORATORIUM WILL ALLOW US TIME TO COME FORWARD
WITH A -- WITH SOME POLICIES AND PROCEDURES RELATIVE TO
ALIGN THE -- THE OBJECTIVES OF THE CRA AND THE GRANT
PROGRAMS WE HAVE IN PLACE.
10:36:29AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
JUST THAT MOTION IS GOOD.
10:36:33AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE MOTION FOR THE RECOMMENDATION.
10:36:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.
10:36:41AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MAKE A MOTION.
10:36:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND.
10:36:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER GUDES TO ACCEPT
AND A SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED?
OKAY, MOTION PASSES.
10:36:52AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU, THE NEXT SLIDE I HAVE IS
RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 3.
THIS IS -- THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION ON GENERALLY HOW TO
STRUCTURE THE DEPARTMENT.
I AM OPEN TO FEEDBACK IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON HOW TO
RESTRUCTURE.
INSTEAD OF DOING GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION SPECIFIC AREAS, WE DO
IT MORE ALONG THE LINES WITH WHAT WE NEED TO HAPPEN AS A
FUNCTION IN THE DEPARTMENT.
10:37:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:37:18AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK THAT IS A GOOD IDEA BUT JUST LIKE
ANY ORGANIZATION LIKE THIS, WE NEED ACCOUNT MANAGERS,
ACCOUNT EXECUTIVES.
I THINK THAT IS IT WHAT YOUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PEOPLE ARE
AND MAYBE WE SHOULD GET A BETTER TITLE FOR IT.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS A GOOD THING BUT MAYBE A TITLE THAT
CARRIES A LITTLE MORE WEIGHT.
I WOULD WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS ASSIGNED TO EACH OF THEM
SO THEY KNOW HOW TO CONTACT.
10:37:51AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
A LOT OF CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SEVERAL OF THE DISTRICTS AND
YBOR AND EAST TAMPA ARE FAR AWAY.
AND THERE HAS BEEN SOME CRITICISM THE LAST FEW YEARS OF THE
OVERHEAD IN YBOR.
MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO RENT A SMALLER SPACE FOR THE
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PERSON TO BE A PHYSICAL PRESENCE AT
LEAST IN YBOR.
I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY FEELS ABOUT EAST TAMPA, BUT MAYBE
THAT PERSON CAN BE THERE PART-TIME TO HAVE OFFICE HOURS FOR
PEOPLE THERE.
I PREVIOUSLY SPOKEN TO A CHAMBER AND THEY ARE PRETTY
SQUEEZED BUT MAYBE LEASE A TABLE FROM THEM OR SOMETHING.
THERE IS ALWAYS CO-WORK SPACE LIKE INDUSTRIAL AND OTHERS
THERE.
IF WE RENT A HUGE SPACE BUT A SMALL SPACE WITH OFFICE HOURS,
I THINK THAT WILL MEAN A LOT FOR THE COMMUNITIES.
10:38:56AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
UNDER RECOMMENDATION NUMBER 4, WE TALK OF
THE COLLOCATION.
BEFORE I MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOU OPTIONS TO THAT.
AND QUICK CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT OFFICE HOURS AND LOCATION.
BEFORE I DO ANYTHING.
I WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU ABOUT SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:39:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:39:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LOOK AT 3-A WITH YOUR ORG CHART, CORRECT?
10:39:25AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THAT'S CORRECT.
10:39:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN YOU MOVE TO THAT ONE.
10:39:29AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SURE.
IF I CAN MAKE ONE COMMENT.
THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS A WORKING TITLE FOR THE
DESCRIPTION.
PRESIDENT TITLES OF THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS.
I AM NOT PROPOSING CHANGES TO THAT RIGHT NOW.
TO YOUR POINT, THEY WILL KNOW WHO TO CONTACT THIS IN
DISTRICT.
10:39:45AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR 3, 3-A AND 3-B,
CORRECT?
10:39:55AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.
10:39:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
3-B.
10:39:58AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
CLICK TO 3-B.
SORRY.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS STILL IN THERE.
10:40:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BACK TO 3-A.
BACK TO 3-A?
3 AND 3-A IS DEALING A ALIGNMENT.
10:40:15AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THREE IS THE REALIGNMENT.
AND 3-A ASKING FOR EIGHT POSITIONS.
10:40:23AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
FOR ME I DON'T NEED TO SEE A RECOMMENDATION
-- IF THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION FROM 3 TO 3-A.
I MOVE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR 3 AND 3-A, THE ORG CHART FOR
IT.
10:40:36AM >> I WILL SECOND BUT ADD -- --
10:40:40AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD SECOND THAT, BUT A FRIENDLY
AMENDMENT TO ADD LOOKING INTO HAVING DEDICATED
REPRESENTATIVES WITH OFFICE TIME IN YBOR, EAST TAMPA.
10:40:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT IS YOUR 4.
10:40:54AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, BUT A DIFFERENCE.
IF THEY ARE ALL COLLOCATED IN DOWNTOWN, FOR EXAMPLE OR
HANNA.
10:41:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS WHAT 4 IS.
10:41:02AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
4 IS THE COLLOCATION.
THIS IS THE ORGANIZATION.
THIS IS HOW TO DIVIDE THE STAFF ING.
10:41:12AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SECOND.
10:41:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYBODY ELSE?
I WANT TO SAY THIS IS AN EXCELLENT WAY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF REALLY GREAT STAFF RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE
EXPERTISE AND WE ARE SILOED THEM AND THEY ARE NOT SHARING
THE EXPERTISE WITH ALL THE CRAs.
THIS IS A WONDERFUL WAY.
AGAIN, IT WILL TAKE A LITTLE TIME.
AND WE NEED TO BE VERY CLEAR.
WE NEED TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ONCE THIS PASSES THAT WE CAN
SHARE WITH ALL THE CACS REASSURED THAT THEY ARE NOT IT SHALL
THINGS ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE BUT CHANGE FOR BETTER THAT
THEY WILL BE RECEIVING MORE SUPPORT WITH -- WITH -- WITH
MORE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
THAT IS MY ONLY CAVEAT.
A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED.
MOTION PASSES, THANK YOU.
10:42:07AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU.
IF WE GO TO RECOMMENDATION 3-B.
THIS IS FOR US TO SUPPLEMENT WHILE WE ARE MAKING SOME OF THE
CHANGES TO PUT OUT AN RFP FOR CONSULTANT TO PROVIDE PROJECT
AND OPERATIONAL SERVICES, PROGRAM MANAGEMENT AND WON'T BE
LIMITED TO JUST THIS BUT DURING THE TRANSITION AND
ORGANIZATION, THERE ARE CONSULTANT FIRMS THAT SPECIALIZE
IN CRA WORK.
SO IT IS NOT LIKE WE ARE GOING OUT -- WOULDN'T VIEW SOMEBODY
A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT, BUT HELP US TO CONTINUE SERVING THE
DISTRICT WHILE WE ARE IN THIS TRANSITIONAL PERIOD AND
GETTING EVERYTHING ALIGNED.
10:42:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:42:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RECRUITMENT,
BUT BEFORE WE HIRE THIS PERSON, YOU HAVE THE BASE SET.
AND I DON'T WANT -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE
BASE SET SO THEY CAN JUST COME IN AND KEEP THE BASE MOVING
VERSUS COMING IN AND MAKING A BUNCH OF CHANGES.
I WANT THE BASE SET.
10:43:07AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
IF YOU WANT TO EXCLUDE THAT FROM THE
RECOMMENDATION.
10:43:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DON'T WANT TO EXCLUDE IT.
WE STILL NEED THAT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE THAT PERSON IS HIRED, WE HAVE GOT
IT MOVED.
10:43:18AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
CORRECT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FOUNDATION IS RIGHT.
10:43:23AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CORRECT.
10:43:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:43:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW WHO THE CONSULTING FIRMS ARE
OPINION WHAT I WOULD LIKE -- THE REASON I DON'T GO TO THE --
WHATEVER IT IS CALLED, THE FRA MEETINGS BECAUSE I WANT US TO
LEAPFROG.
I SAW THEIR NEWSLETTERS.
I AM NOT PLEASED WITH WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN OTHER CITIES.
TAMPA IS AN INNOVATIVE CITY AND WE HAVE SMART PEOPLE AND
INCREDIBLE RESOURCE AT USF AND INSTEAD OF -- WHAT
CONSULTANTS DO A LOT OF TIME IS TAKE WHAT SOME PLACES ARE
DOING AND SELL THAT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
AND INSTEAD, WE SHOULD BE THINKING WAY AHEAD OF EVERYONE
ELSE.
WE HAVE BRILLIANT PEOPLE AT USF.
A COUPLE OF KEY PEOPLE WERE MIKE BLOOM AND MOAZ LEMAN --
BOTH LEFT.
IF WE TALK TO CORPORATE RELATIONS OR RESEARCH AND BUSINESS
SCHOOL, I AM HAPPY TO HAVE YOU DO THAT.
BUT IF WE HAVE ANY MONEY, WE CAN OUTSOURCE TO THEM AND WILL
HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR DATA ANALYTICS PEOPLE AND THEY OFFERED
TO HELP US FOR FREE.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, THEY HAVE ANALYTICS AND HELPED
BUILD BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF WEALTH WITH COMPANIES LIKE
CONNECT WISE IN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THEIR DATA ANALYTICS
AND I THINK WE CAN LEAPFROG BY REALLY LOOKING DOWN DEEP INTO
THE NUMBERS AND UNDERSTANDING WHICH PROGRAMS HAVE THE
PROPENSITY TO CHANGE THE COMMUNITY AND NUMBERS SO WE WILL BE
BY DATA, NOT BY CLAIM.
WE WILL BE BY DATA ONE OF THE BEST CITIES IN THE WORLD.
10:45:02AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I THINK AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO TWO
DIFFERENT ONCE.
GO AHEAD.
10:45:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO
WILL KEEP GOING WHILE -- THE CONSULTANTS ARE SIMPLY GOING TO
BE DOING THE JOBS THAT ARE ALREADY HAPPENING WHILE WE
RESTRUCTURE THE CURRENT STAFF.
DID I -- DID I GET THAT WRONG?
10:45:25AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
NO.
10:45:25AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
THAT IS ACCURATE.
TO COUNCIL CARLSON'S POINT.
WE ARE LOOKING TO GET INNOVATIVE AND TALKING WITH USF WITH
THE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS.
WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT PLANS WE CAN TALK OF RECOMMENDATIONS
AND ANALYTICS TO DRIVE US A LITTLE BIT BETTER BUT YOU ARE
CORRECT ON THAT.
10:45:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
THAT IS WHAT I MEAN.
WE CAN GET THEM INVOLVED IN OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING.
IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE -- IF WE NEED HANDS AND PEOPLE TO
IMPLEMENT STUFF, WHY NOT GET PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING AT THE
BEST IN THE WORLD, AND THEN BY ACCIDENT OR COINCIDENCE, THEY
WILL HELP US WITH THOSE IDEAS AT THE SAME TIME.
MAY BE SERVICES THAT WE CAN DO.
BASED ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, I WOULD RATHER NOT ADD
BLOOMBERG IN HERE.
I KNOW YOU HAVE GREAT EXPERIENCE WITH THEM, BUT THE
COMMUNITY WANTS DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT.
THANK YOU.
10:46:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANYONE ELSE?
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:46:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WOULD SAY MR. CARLSON, HE HAS BEEN ALL
OVER THE WORLD AND SEEN ALL KIND OF THINGS.
I WISH I COULD HAVE BEEN ALL OVER THE WORLD.
GLAD YOU HAD PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN THINGS THIS OTHER PLACES
THAT HAVE THAT KIND OF THOUGHT PATTERN.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE -- WE LOOK AT MAYBE ADDING THOSE
EXPERT PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE BOX PEOPLE.
USF IS GREAT, BUT IF HE HAS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PEOPLE FROM
OTHER PLACES, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THE -- THE OUTSIDE
THINKERS WORK BEST TEAMS.
I WOULD LIKE AT THOSE IDEAS TO KEEP PEOPLE ALONG WITH THE
PROCESS.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
10:47:06AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
NO, NOT AT ALL.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WE ADD THAT SPECIFICALLY TO THE ONES TO
HELP US TO KEEP -- TO KEEP THE SHIP GOING WITH ALL WE ARE
DOING.
BUT I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE IS ASKING FOR.
AND HOW WE ARE DOING OUR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
HOW DO WE LEVERAGE JUST USING THE DATA FOR THE -- FOR THE
OUTPUTS AND OUTCOMES THAT WE REALLY WANT, RIGHT.
GETTING THE EXPERTS TO HELP US.
10:47:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
IN PRESENTATION TWO --
10:47:35AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YEAH, I THINK THERE IS A WAY FOR US TO
INCLUDE THAT.
10:47:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:47:41AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T KNOW I SAID THIS IN THIS FORUM, BUT
I SAID IT OTHER PLACES.
I THINK TEN YEARS FROM NOW, YBOR CITY WILL BE THE BASE CASE
STUDY IN THE ENTIRE WORLD FOR INNOVATION AND CREATIVITY.
NOT BECAUSE OF THE BUILDINGS BEING BUILT.
THE BUILDINGS WILL BE IMPRESSIVE, BUT WITH -- DEFENSE
CONTRACTORS, I.T. COMPANIES, ALL KIND OF REALLY CREATIVE
COMPANIES, THE COMMUNITY BEING BUILT, SOFTWARE AND THE
HARDWARE, THE BEST CASE STUDY -- WE ALL TOUCH IT ALREADY,
EVERYBODY THAT TOUCHES IT CAN BE A CONSULTANT TO GO TO OTHER
COUNTRIES TO TALK ABOUT IT.
IN EAST TAMPA, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IT DIFFERENTLY.
MOST CITIES LOOK AT AREAS TO TEAR THINGS DOWN, GENTRIFY AND
BUILD REAL ESTATE.
WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE HISTORY AND CULTURE AND HELPING
TO BUILD A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.
AND THAT WILL BE A CASE STUDY AT LEAST THROUGHOUT THE
COUNTRY.
AND I THINK IF WE ARE REALLY INNOVATIVE AND FOCUSED ON THE
NUMBERS, WHEN YOU WANT TO USE IT AS A CASE STUDY, YOU HAVE
GOT TO USE IT AS THE ECONOMICS NUMBERS AND SHOW HOW YOU MOVE
THE NEEDLE.
THE OUTPUTS DON'T MATTER HOW MANY FACADES AND HOW MANY ROADS
YOU FIX BUT WHAT MATTERS IS THE ECONOMIC NUMBERS.
IF WE STAY FOCUSED WE CAN DO THAT.
10:48:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT KIND OF MOTION WOULD YOU LIKE FOR THIS?
10:49:02AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I WOULD LIKE A MOTION FOR US TO MOVE
FORWARD FOR REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR CONSULTING SERVICES.
10:49:09AM >> 3-A AND 3-B.
10:49:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO
TO MOVE RECOMMENDATION 3-B.
A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
IT PASSES.
10:49:25AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU.
THE LAST ONE IS WHERE COUNCILMAN CARLSON WITH AS TALKING
ABOUT THE COLLOCATION OF CRA STAFF
WHAT I AM ASKING YOU FOR THIS IS TO -- IF WE WERE TO
COLLOCATE EVERYONE, WE NEED TO TERMINATE EXISTING LEASES.
I AM NOT GOING TO CUT IT OFF TODAY, BUT WE NEED TO START
PREPARING IF THAT IS THE DRINK THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO ANY
-- I AM ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL FOR ANY NEEDS THAT WE HAVE
WITH COLLOCATION WHETHER IT'S CUBICLES, FURNITURE, ANYTHING
LIKE THAT THAT IS CONSISTENT.
JUST REALLY GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A CULTURE OF
COLLABORATION.
10:50:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE THE RECOMMENDATION.
10:50:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SORRY, I HAVE A MOTION -- BUT I HAVE -- FROM
BOARD MEMBER GUDES AND SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBERS MIRANDA.
I HAVE DISCUSSION.
BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:50:15AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MA'AM.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
QUESTION FOR THIS.
FOR THE CAC MEETINGS, ETC., HOW WILL THIS AFFECT THOSE, IF
AT ALL?
10:50:25AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THE CAC MEETINGS RIGHT NOW, THEY HAPPEN IN
MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS AND OTHER PARKS FACILITIES.
I HAVE SOME IDEAS.
I PROBABLY WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT, IF WE WERE
TO COLLOCATE THE CRA STAFF, A POSSIBILITY OF BUILDING OUT A
ROOM FOR US TO HAVE OUR CAC MEETINGS IN -- IN A SIMILAR
LOCATION.
THIS IS JUST GIVING ME DIRECTION THAT YOU ARE OKAY WITH
MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION.
HIM IN RECOMMENDATION FOR ADDITIONAL LEASES, I WOULD HAVE TO
BRING THAT BACK TO YOU WITH A LOCATION REQUIREMENT.
10:51:00AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY.
10:51:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GO RIGHT AHEAD.
10:51:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS MAY CHANGE.
HAVE WE SPOKEN TO THE CAC MEMBERS IN TERMS OF THEIR
SENTIMENT?
10:51:11AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I AM BRINGING IT TO YOU.
10:51:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YEAH, PROBABLY -- MY OPINION, IF IT IS GOING
TO CHANGE -- THIS WILL CHANGE THEIR LOCATIONS OF THEIR
MEETINGS?
10:51:20AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
NOT RIGHT NOW.
I AM NOT SUGGESTING MAKING ANY LOCATION MEETING CHANGES.
WHERE THEY ARE MEETING WILL STAY.
ANY CHANGE TO THAT THERE WILL BE AT LEAST SEVEN, EIGHT
MONTHS BEFORE THAT EVEN -- I CAN'T EVEN BEGINNING -- WE ARE
NOT RECOMMENDING THAT NOW.
I WILL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
10:51:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
10:51:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.
THE FIRST WORD IN CRA IS "COMMUNITY."
10:51:49AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YEAH.
10:51:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I TEND TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
EVEN IF WE WERE TO CLOSE DOWN SOME OF THESE AREAS YOU WILL
NEED SATELLITES SO THE COMMUNITY CAN GO TO THESE OFFICES.
ALL THESE BOARDS ARE MADE UP OF VOLUNTEERS.
I AM NOT TALKING STAFF.
I AM TALKING VOLUNTEERS.
AND IF YOU HAVE A CENTRALIZED LOCATION.
ARE THESE VOLUNTEERS GOING TO BE COMPENSATED FOR TIME,
TRAVEL, GAS, PARKING?
ESPECIALLY IF IT MAY HAPPEN TO BE DOWNTOWN.
WE HAVE A NEW BUILDING BEING BUILT ON HANNA STREET WHICH HAS
SUPPOSEDLY GOING TO HAVE A HUGE AREA MEETING -- MEETING
AREA, EXCUSE ME, THAT MIGHT BE CONVENIENT.
BUT, AGAIN, THE COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST A SMALL
OFFICE FRONT TO GO TO WITHIN THEIR OWN COMMUNITY TO ASK HOW
THINGS CAN BE DONE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
10:52:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:52:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, I WOULD -- I WOULD VOTE FOR THIS WITH
THE CAVEAT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST ONE RELOCATED WITH
OFFICE HOURS IN YBOR AND EAST TAMPA.
AND THEN A QUESTION IS, WOULD YOU JUST PUT THEM.
HANNA AVE --
10:53:14AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
NO.
I MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU, AND THAT IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
10:53:19AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL THROW OUT AN IDEA THEN.
THIS KIND OF COMBINES TWO IDEAS, BUT YOU KNOW I PUSHED THE
IDEA A FEW YEARS AGO OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.
AND THE PLANNERS I TALKED TO SAID THERE COULD BE 130 OF THEM
THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND I DRIVEN WITH FOLKS IN EAST TAMPA,
THERE COULD BE THREE OR FOUR THERE.
AND PROVIDING A LITTLE COMMERCIAL ON A CORNER SO THEN -- AND
MAYBE SOME DENSITY OF HOUSING THAT WILL THEN SUPPORT THE
NEIGHBORHOOD SO PEOPLE CAN WALK TO A DUCKWEED OR SOME KIND
OF GROCERY STORES TO BUY EGGS AND MILK.
SOMETHING ELSE THAT EAST TAMPA IS MISS SOMETHING A COFFEE
SHOP.
I THINK WE NEED SOMETHING THAT IS LIKE A COFFEE SHOP WITH AN
INCUBATOR SPACE NEXT TO IT.
WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN BOSTON AND OTHER CITIES, SIMILAR
ORGANIZATION ALSO BUY -- BUY OR BUILD A BUILDING.
LET'S SAY WE BUILT A COFFEE STOP TO MONETIZE IT AND TWO OR
THREE STORIES ABOVE.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON ONE LEVEL.
THERE COULD BE OUR OFFICES.
IF WE BUILT IT IN THE RIGHT RAY, WE COULD LEASE IT SO WE
DON'T HAVE OPERATIONAL EXPENSES AND MAKE MONEY ON THE
LEASES.
AN MAKE SPACE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OR OFFICE SPACE AND
PLACE FOR ENTREPRENEURS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS TO MEET.
JUST AN IDEA.
10:54:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBERS GUDES.
10:54:40AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR.
STAFF IS ONE LOCATION.
SO WE CAN COLLABORATE.
10:54:45AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THAT IS WHAT I AM RECOMMENDING.
10:54:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DON'T --
10:54:50AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I HAVEN'T SAID WHERE YET.
10:54:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE ARE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM HAVING A
STAFF PERSON IN ALL THE SILOS.
TRYING TO BRING THE STAFF IT ONE PLACE.
IF YOU SAY YOU WANT TO HAVE A STAR PERSON WHO IS STILL GOING
TO BE ASSIGNED TO THE AREA TO HAVE A COUPLE OF HOURS IN THE
COMMUNITY I AM OKAY, BUT I THINK ALL THE STAFF NEEDS TO GO
TO ONE LOCATION AND YOU CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT SECTION WITH
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THAT PEOPLE -- A PERSON OR WHATEVER, A
PART-TIMER, WHATEVER, TO HANDLE THOSE ISSUES AND COME FOR
WHATEVER NEED.
SHE IS SAYING SHE NEEDS THE MANAGERS AT A LOCATION TO BE
ABLE TO DO THEIR JOB AND BRING THAT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
STILL TO THE COMMUNITY AND A PART-TIME PERSON WHATEVER,
WHATEVER, TO TAKE ON A COUPLE OF AREAS AND BRING THAT
INFORMATION BACK.
BUT TO LEASE A BUNCH OF PLACES -- WHAT SHE IS TRYING TO GET
OUT OF.
LEASING DIFFERENT PLACES.
COFFEE SHOP.
WE CAN BUILD SOMETHING.
THAT OFFICE PERSON, STAFF PERSON CAN GO THERE.
THERE IS NO PLACE IN THE EAST PART OF TO HAVE A MEETING AND
A CUP OF COFFEE AND SUCH AND SUCH.
I THINK STAFF NEEDS TO BE ALL TOGETHER COLLABORATING AND GET
SOME PART-TIMERS TO DO SOME OTHER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
PEOPLE NEED TO MEET OR GO TO A CERTAIN LOCATION.
10:56:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
10:56:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR ARTICULATING MY COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
TO NARROW DOWN THE EXPENSES THAT WE ARE PAYING, BUT SOMEONE
WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT EXPRESSES ABOUT AN FACADE GRANT
AND NEED AN OPINION ABOUT A PARK AND NEED TO GO THERE.
BECAUSE REMEMBER WE ARE DEALING WITH SLUM AND BLIGHT.
SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO SPEND THREE HOURS ON BUS TO GO
DOWNTOWN, HANNA STREET.
10:56:40AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I DON'T RECOMMEND ANY OF THOSE PLACES YET.
10:56:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WOULD -- I KNOW THAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR
POSSIBLE PURCHASE SPACE FOR COLLOCATIONS.
SO I MIGHT SUGGEST SOMEWHERE IN THE YBOR/EAST TAMPA AREA FOR
THAT --A, FOR COST.
ABSOLUTELY CENTRALIZED LOCATION BUT DOWNTOWN IS WILDLY
EXPENSIVE NOW.
MAY NOT BE THE BEST USE OF OUR CRA RESOURCES.
SO I WOULD -- I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT.
I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH EVEN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T
NECESSARILY HAVE TO RENT SPACE SOMEWHERE.
WE COULD EVEN -- I MEAN, WE COULD EVEN DO SOMETHING LIKE A
BUS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THE BOOKMOBILE FROM WAY
BACK.
10:57:34AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I REMEMBER THE BOOKMOBILE.
10:57:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU CAN BE IN A
DIFFERENT SPACE AT DIFFERENT TIMES TO HAVE A COMMUNITY
OUTREACH PERSON.
I DON'T THINK OUTREACH NECESSARILY NEEDS TO HAVE OFFICE
SPACE.
BECAUSE OFFICE SPACE IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
OR FULL-TIME TO OF SPACE, RATHER.
HE BELIEVE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FOR APPROVAL OF
RECOMMENDATION NUMBER FOUR.
MR. DRUMGO.
10:58:05AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
WELL, MADAM CHAIR, I THINK YOU ARE MOVING IT
ALONG.
BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO GET IN THE WEEDS ON IT.
I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE, EVEN TODAY, OUR STAFF, THEY
DON'T -- THEY ARE MOBILE.
THEY HAVE CARS AND FEET AND SHOULD BE WALKING IN THE
COMMUNITY AND ENGAGE WITH THEIR CONSTITUENTS AS WELL.
A LOT OF THIS GO SELL THE GRANT PROGRAMS DOOR TO DOOR AND
ENGAGE WITH THE CONSTITUENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
I DON'T THINK WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE THE COMMUNITY OUT IF
THEY ARE CENTRALLY LOCATED.
THOSE BODIES CAN PHYSICALLY GET UP AND WALK AWAY FROM A DESK
IN THE COMMUNITY AND DO THE WORK.
DOES NOT CHANGE THE INTENT OF WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO
GOING FORWARD.
10:58:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
VERY GOOD POINT.
ANYONE ELSE?
OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION -- SORRY, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:58:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, I WILL VOTE FOR IT.
MAYBE NOT THE VOTES FOR AN AMENDMENT, BUT I ASK THE STAFF TO
LOOK AT HAVING SOME KIND OF OFFICE HOURS.
RENTING A DESK FROM THE CHAMBER IN YBOR CITY IS NOT THAT BIG
A DEAL IF THEY HAVE IT.
BUT I WILL ASK THAT SOME PLACE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THEY CAN
MEET SOMEONE.
I WILL ASK YOU ALL TO LOOK AT.
10:59:10AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I HEAR YOU GUYS LOUD AND CLEAR.
I WILL BRING RECOMMENDATIONS BACK.
I NEEDED A DIRECTION AND NEEDED FOR TO YOU HAVE THIS
DISCUSSION SO THAT I KNOW WHERE TO GO.
I WILL BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
I HEAR THAT LOUD AND CLEAR.
10:59:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED.
OKAY, MOTION -- NA WHY?
OKAY, A 6-1 VOTE.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:59:37AM >>BILL CARLSON:
WITH AS THAT THE LAST RECOMMENDATION?
10:59:40AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES, IT WAS.
10:59:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
A CRAZY QUESTION THAT I ASKED FOUR YEARS AGO
THAT THIS -- THE CRA OUTSOURCES STAFF FROM THE CITY.
IT OUTSOURCES SERVICES TO THE CITY.
AND THE STATED PEN FITS OF THAT THAT WE GET ACCESS TO LEGAL
SERVICES AND PURCHASING SERVICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THE QUESTION IS, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR -- AS YOU
RESTRUCTURE TO TAKE SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES, ESPECIALLY NEW
ONES, AND PUT THEM IN -- IN AN EMPLOYEE LEASING SITUATION OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
I AM NOT ASKING NOW --
11:00:17AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WHAT?
11:00:18AM >>BILL CARLSON:
EMPLOYEE LEASING SITUATION.
I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO ANSWER THAT TODAY.
EFFICIENCIES PEOPLE WOULD RATHER WORK FOR THE CITY OR THE
CRA.
WOULD THEY LIKE THE CITY BENEFITS OR MORE FLEXIBLE BENEFITS.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I AM ASKING THE QUESTION.
I ASSUME SOME CRAS HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STAFF THAT
REPORT TO THEM.
DON'T ANSWER RIGHT NO YOU.
I AM ASKING A QUESTION.
11:00:42AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WE HAVE TO BRING BACK THE SERVICE LEVEL
AGREEMENT FOR NEW MARCH AND WE CAN DO A LITTLE LEGWORK AND
REPORT THAT TO YOU WHEN WE BRING IT BACK IN MARCH.
11:00:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:00:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I BELIEVE HE IS ASKING THAT QUESTION IF YOU
LOOK IN ACTUALITY, ALL OF THE STAFF OF THE CRA BELONG TO THE
CITY AND THEY ANSWER TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
THEY DON'T ANSWER TO THE BOARD.
ONLY THE DIRECTOR ANSWERS TO THE BOARD.
AND WHY THINGS HAVE BEEN IN CONFLICT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL,
BECAUSE I GOT A BOSS, BUT HAVE TO ANSWER WHAT ADMINISTRATION
SAYS.
THIS IS A CRA BODY BOARD.
I THINK THAT IS WHY HE IS ASKING THAT QUESTION WHICH IS A
VALID QUESTION TO ASK.
11:01:23AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YES.
I JUST HOPE THAT MR. DRUMGO AND I HAVE OPINION DOING A GOO
JOB THAT --
11:01:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU AND MR. DRUMGO.
YOU ARE UP FRONT.
11:01:37AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
I WILL BRING THAT BACK WITH THE SERVICE
LEVEL AGREEMENT.
THE NEXT ITEM -- ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME AND
INDULGING IN THAT CONVERSATION.
I HAVE SOME GOOD DIRECTION ON THIS AND I WILL LOOK FORWARD
TO BRINGING THESE ITEMS BACK TO YOU.
11:01:52AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FORKING THE LEADERSHIP ON THAT.
11:01:57AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS -- ALIS WILL DO
THE INTRODUCTION FOR IT.
SORRY.
THANK YOU.
11:02:04AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
FINAL ITEM FOR YOU TODAY UPDATE ON MARKETING
AND COMMUNICATION.
WE HAVE BE PARKS WITH US TODAY.
I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS NOT AN EASY JOB TO TAKE ON OR TO
JUMP INTO.
I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU HEARD OF
THE SILOS HAVE VARYING UNDERSTANDINGS AND OBJECTIVES HOW
THEY WOULD LIKE TO GO ABOUT SEEING THEIR -- THEIR
PARTICULAR CRAs REPRESENTED.
I THINK YOU HAVE SOME CRAs THAT ARE CURRENTLY EXPLORING
MARKETING AND COMMUNICATION CONTRACTS THROUGH THEIR
SUBCOMMITTEES.
QUITE THE CHALLENGE TO PULL THE REINS AND POLL TOGETHER A
UMBRELLA REPRESENTATION OF THE TAMPA CRA AS A WHOLE.
I WANT TO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT AS SHE IS PRESENTING WHETHER
OR NOT YOU ALL WOULD WANT TO SEE INDIVIDUALIZED
REPRESENTATIONS OR LOGOS GENERATED THROUGH SOME OF THE
OTHER CRAs.
BE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB REACHING OUT THROUGH YOUR AIDS TO
OBTAIN FEEDBACK.
I WILL LET HER TAKE IT AWAY.
PLEASE, THE PRESENTATION FOR ITEM NUMBER 6.
11:03:15AM >>BE PARKS:
ALL RIGHTY.
GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.
I AM EXCITED.
THIS HAS BEEN A LONG WAY COMING.
AND I AM PROUD THAT I TOOK ON THE TASK TO WORK AND CREATE A
LOGO TO REPRESENT TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO ABOUT US.
EACH MEMBER UP HERE UNDERSTANDS THE COMMUNITY.
THEY KNOW WHAT THEY BRING TO THAT COMMUNITY ALONG WITH THAT
THAT COMMUNITY REPRESENTS.
WE ARE THE TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
WE PRIDE OURSELF WITH WORKING CLOSELY WITH RESIDENTS, LOCAL
BUSINESSES COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR OF
REDEVELOPING AND SUSTAINING ALL COMMUNITIES CONDITION WITH
OUR CRA BOUNDARIES.
THAT -- THAT IS WHO WE ARE.
EACH MEMBER UP THERE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS.
I HAVE LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY AND THIS IS WHO TAMPA
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY IS.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
THIS IS OUR COLOR PALETTE FOR OUR LOGO.
I DID A LOT OF RESEARCH ON THIS.
I STARTED HERE IN MARCH AND NOW IN FEBRUARY AND WE ARE NOW
TO HAVE OUR TAMPA LOGO.
IN KIND OF REPRESENTS SOME COLORS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA
LOOKING AT DIFFERENT LOGOS AND COMING UP WITH A PALETTE THAT
REPRESENTS US.
THIS IS OUR TYPEFACE.
I DOUBLE CHECKED AND MADE SURE THIS IS ADA COMPLIANCE AND
THE PROJECTS, FIRE SIGNS.
I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.
THOSE PROJECT SIGNS ARE GOING OUT AND I'M HERE TODAY TO MOVE
THAT FORWARD.
I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
THIS IS ADA COMPLIANT AND WILL ROLL INTO ANY MARKETING
MATERIALS THAT COME OUT OF THE CRA.
NEXT, PLEASE.
THE PROCESS.
IT HAS BEEN A PROCESS.
WHEN I FIRST STARTED HERE THAT MARCH, I TOOK ON THE TASK TO
JUST DESIGN A COUPLE OF LOGOS, PASS THAT AROUND STAFF.
WE COMMUNICATED AMONG EACH OTHER AND STAFF GAVE GREAT
FEEDBACK OF THE LOGOS.
WE SAID LET'S LOOK AT OTHER AVENUES.
WE EXPLORED THAT AVENUE AT THAT TIME WITH THE OUTSIDE, YOU
KNOW LOGO DESIGN COMPANY THAT CAME UP WITH A COUPLE OF
DESIGNS AND BROUGHT IT BACK INHOUSE AND SAID, LISTEN, HAVE
CONVERSATIONS THAT EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR THE MAJORITY OF YOU WHO RESPONDED TO ME
HOUNDING YOU GUYS, YOUR AIDS, TO SIT TOWN AND PLEASE LET'S
LOOK AT THIS LOGO AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THIS DONE AFTER ALL
OF THAT WE TOOK THOSE DESIGNS AND FLESHED THEM BACK WITH
GREAT FEEDBACK AND MOVING FORWARD WITH WHAT I AM PRESENTING
TODAY.
THAT IS HOW THE THAT PROCESS WENT.
NEXT SLIDE.
THIS IS OUR BRAND.
THIS IS OUR LOGO.
TAMPA CRA IS THE PRIMARY LOGO.
ME PERSONALLY.
I LIKE THE COLORS.
IT REPRESENTS US WELL.
OUR SOCIAL MEDIA LOGO IS STACKABLE.
I WANT TO GIVE THANKS TO JEREMY REX AND HIS TEAM FROM THE
CITY SIDE.
HE HAS BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH ME TO COME UP WITH THIS
DESIGN ALONG WITH GETTING THE FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD
MEMBERS AND THE STAFF TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE CLEARLY
REPRESENTED.
THAT IS WHAT WE DID HERE.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
DIFFERENT LOGOS IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE PROJECT SIGNS IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW WILL HAVE OUR
TAMPA CRA LOGO.
UNDERNEATH WILL BE STRENGTHENING COMMUNITIES.
THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
WE ARE -- WE WORK WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WITH THE PUBLIC
SECTOR, OUR STAKEHOLDERS, OUR BUSINESSES AND WE STRENGTHEN
THOSE COMMUNITIES.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A PERFECT LOGO TO USE FOR THOSE SIGNS.
MARKETING MATERIALS COME IN BLACK AND WHITE AND A SAMPLE OF
THAT ALONG WITH OUR NEWS RELEASE AND OUR PRESS RELEASES THAT
GO OUT IF ANYONE ATTENDED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO IN EAST
TAMPA, WE HAD OUR FIRST PRESS RELEASE.
AND IT WAS GREAT.
WE GOT TO HIGHLIGHT ONE OF THE PROGRAMS WITHIN THE EAST
TAMPA CRA.
AND TOMORROW WE GET TO CELEBRATE ANOTHER RECIPIENT OF ONE OF
OUR PROGRAMS IN WEST TAMPA SO WE -- UPON CONVERSATION HERE,
WE WILL USE THIS HEADLINE FOR THAT.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
PRETTY MUCH THAT IS MY LOGO PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LOGO BEFORE I GO INTO MARKETING
OUTLINE?
11:08:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:08:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
I VERY MUCH LIKE THE FONT.
IT GIVES IT AN ART DECO LOOK.
SO IT IS THE HISTORY.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS FRESH AND NEW AND VIBRANT IT
POPS AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WON'T BE EYE-CATCHING.
IF PEOPLE LOOK OVER, THEY WILL BE WHAT'S THAT.
I NEVER SEEN THAT BEFORE.
AT THE SAME TIME, IT IS INVITING.
IT IS POSITIVE.
EVERYTHING THAT THE CRA SHOULD BE.
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:08:48AM >>BE PARKS:
THANK YOU.
11:08:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:08:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I WILL SAYS IT DIFFERENT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LITTLE BR ON THE BOTTOM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
11:08:59AM >>BE PARK CAN YOU PULL IT BACK UP PLEASE.
11:09:02AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE B IN -- TYPE SETTING MISTAKE?
I DON'T KNOW --
11:09:07AM >>BE PARKS:
YOU SAID TYPEFACE?
THAT IS THE FRONT FOR THE LOGO.
SO YOU CAN SEE IT IN EACH -- EACH LETTER IS REPRESENTED SO
YOU CAN SEE HOW CLEAR IT LOOKS.
11:09:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DON'T LOOK CLEAR TO ME.
11:09:23AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
HE DOESN'T LIKE THE B.
11:09:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
THAT IS GREAT YOU HAVE A BIG THING THAT SAYS TAMPA CRA, BUT
I THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE SOME TYPE OF LOGO SEAL THAT YOU
HAVE THAT WOULD HAVE THE DIFFERENT CRAS UNDER THAT -- IN
THAT SEAL OR SOMETHING.
I MEAN, I JUST THINK WHEN YOU -- WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING OUT
THERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT PUTTING IT
ON A BIG BOARD, YOU ARE CAN HAVE THE TAMPA CRA ON IT.
BUT I WAS LOOKING FOR ALSO MAYBE A SEAL AS WELL.
NO DIFFERENT THAN HERE.
YOU HAVE A CITY SEAL AND A CRA SEAL THAT WE PUT ON THE
BOARD.
THAT IS JUST MY THINKING.
MR. DRUMGO, YOU ARE JUMPING UP.
DON'T BEAT ME UP, SIR.
11:10:09AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
I AM NOT.
WE ARE STILL THE CITY OF TAMPA AND STILL A INDEPENDENT
SPECIAL DISTRICT.
KEEP THAT IN MIND.
PROMOTING WHAT THE CRA REPRESENTS INDIVIDUALLY, WE ARE ALSO
STILL REMINDING THAT STILL CITY OF TAMPA.
WITHER NOT GETTING AWAY FROM THAT FROM CREATING A SEPARATE
SEAL.
11:10:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
11:10:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I LIKE IT.
WHEREAS EACH INDIVIDUAL CAC IS ITS OWN BODY AND WE ARE
THE CRA.
IS THERE GOING TO BE A SEPARATE TYPE OF LOGO OR A LOGO NAME
UNDERNEATH EACH -- FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL CRA?
SAY THE TAMPA CRA, STRENGTH IN COMMUNITY.
UNDERNEATH IT IS GOING TO BE YBOR CAC 1, 2, DREW PARK CAC.
IS IT GOING TO GO THAT WAY.
11:11:09AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
I DON'T WANT TO TAKE OVER HER PRESENTATION,
BUT THAT IS NOW I LED IN TO GET DIRECTION FROM YOU IF YOU
WANT TOP ALLOW THOSE ADDITIONAL LOGOS TO STAND ALONE.
BECAUSE AS A BODY, AS THE CRA.
A REPRESENTATION OF THE TAMPA CRA, YOUR CACS ATTEMPT TO
PROMOTE AND SEPARATE THEMSELVES IN THAT WAY.
I THINK IF WE WANT TO HAVE A STRONG BRAND.
COCA-COLA DOES NOT HAVE SEPARATE LOGOS FOR DIFFERENT
PRODUCTS.
11:11:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
BUT THEY DO -- I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT
YOU.
11:11:41AM >>ALIS DRUMGO:
THEY STAND WHOLE.
BUT IT IS UP TO YOU ALL.
11:11:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIR AND PLEASE AND THANK
YOU BEFORE MR. MASSEY CHIMES IN.
TO YOUR POINT, COKE CLASSIC, COKE ZERO, IT IS ALL UNDER THE
BRAND.
MY POINT IS THAT TAMPA CRA, SOMEONE SEES THAT.
OKAY, THAT IS THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT IF SOMEONE SEES THE
TAMPA CRA STRENGTH IN COMMUNITY AND THE INDIVIDUAL CRAS HAVE
SOMETHING UNDERNEATH, THAT PERSON IN THAT COMMUNITY SAYS
OKAY, I AM PART OF IT.
11:12:17AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I WANT TO QUICKLY INTERRUPT.
ONLY ONE CRA.
YOU WANT TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND NOT THE CAC.
IT IS JUST AN ADVISORY BODY THAT YOU CAN IDENTIFY THAT
SEPARATE REDEVELOPMENT AREAS PERHAPS IN YOUR SIGNAGE AND
BRANDING.
BUT WE ONLY HAVE ONE AGENCY WITH DIFFERENT REDEVELOPMENT
AREAS THAT THIS ONE AGENCY REPRESENTS.
11:12:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I STAND CORRECTED.
11:12:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:12:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT IT REAL QUICKLY.
AND WHAT -- WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT IS THAT THE COLORS ARE NOT
OFFENSIVE.
THEY BLEND IN WITH A WELCOMING THING.
IT IS NOT LIKE MY OLD POLITICAL SCIENCE THAT ARE RED AND
BLACK AND YOU LOOK AT IT AND YOU WANT ATTENTION.
I AM JUST TELLING YOU HOW I FEEL.
WHEN YOU SEE THIS, IT'S CALMING.
IT'S -- I AM NOT WANTING TO -- I DON'T DO PRODUCTION.
I DON'T DO THIS KIND OF WORK, BUT IT IS PLEASANT TO THE EYE.
AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT.
SOMETHING THAT IS PLEASANT TO THE EYE AND IT SAYS WHAT IT
IS.
STRENGTHENING COMMUNITIES.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
THAT IS HOW I FEEL.
11:13:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:13:42AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FOR GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I DO FOR A LIVING SO I HAVE A
HARD TIME LOOK AT IT WITHOUT THINKING OF THE BIGGER PROCESS.
BUT ONE THING I WILL ADD IN IS -- THAT IS -- A DESIGN SHOULD
BE BASED ON CRITERIA.
AND -- ESPECIALLY IF YOU SHOW THIS PRESENTATION TO ANYBODY
ELSE, THERE NEEDS TO BE A SLIDE THAT TALKS ABOUT AT
TRIBUTES.
WHEN YOU INTERVIEWED US, I AM SURE YOU PICKED UP CERTAIN
ATTRIBUTES LIKE COUNCILMEMBER -- SORRY, BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA
MENTIONED FRIENDLY OR PLEASING.
YOU MIGHT ADD CONNECTION TO HISTORY, CULTURE, INNOVATION.
I MEAN IT -- EVEN THOUGH IT IS -- IT IS ALLUDING TO THE
PAST, IT ALSO IS KIND OF MODERN IN ITS LOOK AND FEEL.
IT ALSO -- ALSO ONE OF THE CRITERIA IT HAD TO HAVE SOME
SIMILARITY TO THE CITY EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T USE THE SEAL.
YOU USED THE SAME COLORS THAT THE CITY USES WHEN PEOPLE SEE
THEM TOGETHER DO IT IN THE SAME FAMILY.
I THINK YOU DID THAT INTUITIVELY AND THE DESIGN TEAM DID
THAT INTUITIVELY AND WORTH MENTIONING THE CRITERIA.
NOT JUST FOR LOGO BUT THE BRIEF OF ALL THE OTHER MARKETING
STUFF WE ARE GOING TO DO.
ONE OTHER THINGS -- WE HAD A LOT OF CRITICISM CRA OVER THE
PAST FOUR YEARS, PARTLY COMING FROM US, PARTLY COMING FROM
THE COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING FOR THE FUTURE.
STRATEGIC GOAL IN COMMUNICATION AND SHOULD BE EMBEDDED IN
THE DESIGN AND ALSO CONNECT TO THE OTHER MARKETING STUFF.
THE SECOND THING FOR THE PUBLIC IS, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS?
9 CRA LEGALLY IS A SEPARATE ENTITY.
A SEPARATE BUCKET OF MONEY $53 MILLION OR SOMETHING A YEAR.
WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY AS THE CRA BOARD TO SPEND MONEY
WISELY.
A LOT OF CONCERN FROM DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT MONEY
HAVEN'T BEEN SPENT OR SPENT AS WISELY IN THE PAST AS THEY
WANTED.
WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON SPENDING THE MONEY WISELY WITH MISS
TRAVIS'S WHOLE RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU CAN SEE WE ARE
AGGRESSIVELY TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOCUS ON RESULTS
FOR THE FUTURE.
I THINK THE IDEA OF THE LOGO IS NOT TO PROMOTE OURSELVES.
IS THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THAT WE ARE SPENDING THE MONEY.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE RENOVATING TAMPA UNION STATION.
IF IT DOESN'T SAY CRA, NOBODY KNOWS WHO IS PAYING FOR IT.
IF THE COMMUNITY DRIVES BY A FACADE AND SEES THE CRA LOGO,
THEY KNOW WHO PAID FOR IT SO THEY CAN BE COMFORTABLE THAT
THEIR MONEY IS BEING SPENT WISELY.
SOMEBODY MENTIONED PICTURES.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
THEY SEE THE PICTURE THEY KNOW CRA IS SPENDING THE MONEY AND
THAT'S WHY -- BECAUSE YOU DID IT IN HOUSE, IT PROBABLY
DIDN'T COST VERY MUCH EITHER.
THE NEXT THING -- YES, THE CITY AS A SYMBOL BUT A LOGO.
THE LOGOTYPE SCRIPT AND STANDS BY ITSELF.
I GUESS SOMETIMES IT STANDS BY THE SYMBOL AND THE LOGO OF
THE CITY.
I LOVE THAT LOGO.
I DON'T KNOW WHO DESIGNED THAT OR WHEN, BUT IT IS BEAUTIFUL.
THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE HAVE WHAT IS CALLED A LOGO TPD.
I THINK IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO CREATE A SYMBOL, NOT BECAUSE
THE CITY HAS A SEAL, BUT TYPICALLY YOU CREATE A SYMBOL WHEN
YOU ARE TRYING TO BUILD OTHER SUBUNITS OF A COMPANY AND YOU
NEED TO HAVE A SYMBOL -- LIKE YOU MIGHT USE THE SAME
TYPEFACE AND COLORS WITH A SYMBOL AND DIFFERENT NAMES.
THE SYMBOL HELPS TO TIE IT IN VISUALLY TO BE A PART OF THE
SAME ORGANIZATION.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT AND A WHOLE OTHER PROCESS WITH SYMBOLS
AND HARD TO TRADEMARK IT I THINK WE SHOULD TRADEMARK IT TOO,
BY THE WAY.
NOT THE NAME, BUT THE LOOK.
YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED WHO TRIES TO STEAL TRADEMARK.
THE NEXT THING IF YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO
TYPEFACE.
HERE IS WHAT I RECOMMEND.
I RAN A BUNCH OF MANUALS ON IDENTITY.
USUALLY COMPANIES HAVE A SECONDARY TYPEFACE.
AND THE SECONDARY TYPEFACE USED IN PRESENTATIONS LIKE THIS.
I RECOMMEND IF THIS IS A TYPEFACE FOR THE LOGOTYPE, I WOULD
LEAVE THAT ASIDE.
FIRST OF ALL, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO RE-CREATE IT
ON THE COMPUTERS.
YOU WANT THEM TO USE THE ORIGINAL ART THEY HAVE.
SECOND -- AND IDEALLY, CHANGE IT TO MAKE SURE IT ALL FITS
TOGETHER SO YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO MIX IT UP.
THE SECOND THING THOUGH IT WILL HELP IT TO BE MORE READABLE.
I WILL ASK JEREMY OR SOMEBODY TO TRY TO FIND A COMPATIBLE
SECONDARY TYPEFACE.
THAT WILL CHANGE THE B SITUATION.
AND THE LAST THING IS WHAT BOARD MEMBER CITRO AND OTHERS
MENTIONED.
WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT THE SUB BRANDS.
I DON'T THINK THAT -- I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE
SEPARATE LOGOS.
I KNOW EAST TAMPA ALREADY HAS THEIR LOGO.
SHOULDN'T HAVE SEPARATE LOGOS BUT NEED HOW TO IDENTIFY IT.
UNDERNEATH INSTEAD OF THE TAG LINE, YBOR CITY DISTRICT.
THAT IS COMING UP AND TIMES THE TAG LINE WILL COME
UNDERNEATH IT AND WE NEED A CONSISTENT WAY OF HANDLING IT.
THANK YOU.
11:19:07AM >> JUST TO COMMENT REALLY QUICKLY ON WHAT YOU SAID, BOARD
MEMBER CARLSON.
WE HAVE ALTERNATIVE FONTS IN DESIGN.
OUR LOGO WITH EACH DISTRICT.
EAST TAMPA HAS THEIR OWN LOGO.
YBOR CITY HAS THEIR OWN LOGO.
WHAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO BRAND US UNIFORMLY.
11:19:37AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IN A WAY IS A MINI GRAPHICS MANUAL AND THE
NEXT PAGE AFTER THIS THAT SAYS SECONDARY TYPEFACE.
INSTEAD OF PRIMARY, I WOULD SAY LOGO TYPEFACE OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT SO WE ARE NOT ASKING PEOPLE TO USE THAT IN
DESCRIPTIONS OF THINGS LIKE TAMPA CRA BRAND GUIDELINES.
WILL NOT IN THAT TYPEFACE.
IN A SECOND TYPEFACE.
CLICK DOWN A COUPLE.
JUST AFTER THIS BEFORE OR AFTER THIS SLIDE, ALL THE
DIFFERENT DISTRICTS WITH THAT TYPE SHOW HOW IT WILL BE USED
SOME MARKETING PERSON IN THE FUTURE WILL SEE WHAT THE
STANDARD GUIDELINES ARE.
THANK YOU.
11:20:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBERS GUDES.
11:20:27AM >> I GOT WITH HIM.
I REACHED OUT.
HE GAVE ME GOOD IDEAS AND ACTUALLY SOME WORDS THAT HE GAVE
-- CONVERSING ABOUT WHEN HE SAYS THE BACKGROUND OF HOW IT
WAS DESIGNED.
EVERY CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH THE MEMBERS THAT
RESPONDED.
HE DID GIVE CONCRETE WORDS FOR THE ANNUAL REPORT.
I WANT ALL OF YOU GUYS TO KNOW.
11:20:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
GO BACK A FEW SLIDES TO THE ORIGINAL WHERE IT
SHOWS THE SOCIAL -- THERE YOU GO SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.
THEY MAY MAKE IT TOO BUSY BUT JUST TO SURROUND THE SOCIAL
MEDIA LOGO WITH THE INDIVIDUAL CRAs IN BLACK, SAME TYPEFACE,
BUT SMALL.
KIND OF A -- YEAH.
I MEAN, JUST.
IT WOULDN'T REALLY BE READABLE MORE AS JUST PUTTING THEM --
MAKING SURE WE TALK ABOUT THEM.
BUT I THINK BOARD MEMBER CARLSON HIT ON MANY DIFFERENT
THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY.
BUT IT IS BEAUTIFUL.
THE COLORS ARE BEAUTIFUL.
11:21:35AM >> THANK YOU.
11:21:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, IT EVOKES HISTORY AND
YET FRESH, NEW.
AND SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOU.
AND I KNOW ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HELPED YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU
HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME AND JUST
CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
11:21:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY TIME OF MOTION?
11:22:02AM >> CAN I HAVE AN APPROVAL.
11:22:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
ANY OPPOSED.
11:22:12AM >>BE PARKS:
THANK YOU AND WHOEVER IS COMING FOR IT.
11:22:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ANY NEW BUSINESS?
11:22:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF I MAY, PLEASE.
FIRST OF ALL, TOWARD THAT MOTION.
THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA WILL BE HOLDING
A CELEBRATION FOR MR. BARTIGE.
I HOPE I AM SAYING THAT CORRECTLY.
A LOCAL ARTIST AND A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA AND THEY
ARE GOING TO BE DOING A RESIDENTIAL EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENT
GRANT RECIPIENT CELEBRATION TOMORROW FEBRUARY 10, 2023.
10 A.M. IN THE LOCATION IS 2116 WEST CASS STREET.
RIGHT HERE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:23:06AM >>BE PARKS:
YES, WEST TAMPA.
GOTCHA.
THANK YOU.
11:23:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NOW IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIR, AND I WILL TRY
NOT TO TAKE FIVE MINUTES BUT I NEED TO MAKE THIS STATEMENT.
WITH THE FAILING OF TRANSPORTATION TO PASS.
AND WHAT TALLAHASSEE IS PLANNING ON DOING WITH THE FUNDS
THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED IN TRYING TO RETURN THEM TO PEOPLE
WHO BOUGHT PRODUCTS -- TAXPAYERS WHO BOUGHT PRODUCTS AND
THEN WHAT IS LEFT OVER TO GO TO TRANSPORTATION WITHIN
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, IT IS TIME THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA START
TAKING STEPS FOR ITS OWN TRANSPORTATION WITHIN THE CITY
LIMITS OF TAMPA IF YOU REMEMBER, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO I
MADE A MOTION.
AND IT WAS SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON THAT THE CRA
BOARD, THE CRA STAFF EXPLORE THE PRIOR PLANS TO -- TO PALM
AVENUE USING CRA FUNDS FROM.
FUND FROM THE MATCHING FUNDS FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO TO CONTACT FDOT FOR THE EXISTING
PLANS TO BE MODIFIED TO LOWER THE AMOUNT OF MATCHING FUNDS
NEEDED FURTHER AND REPORT BACK ON MARCH 9.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN -- LADY AND GENTLEMEN OF THE BOARD,
THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN PLANS BY THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
AND THANK YOU MISS KAREN CRESS FOR PARKING MINIMUMS OF THE
AREA OF TAMPA STREET, PALM AND FLORIDA AVENUE.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
A PERSON WHO IS IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY WHO OWNS A CAR.
LONG DISCUSSION OF PEOPLE OWN CARS AND NOT GOING TO OWN CARS
THAT WORK IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
I WISH TO RESCIND THAT MOTION AND HAVE CRA STAFF COME BACK
ON MARCH 9 AFTER HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH POLICE BETH ALBAN
OF TPO.
11:25:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TPO.
11:25:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DYSLEXIA AT ITS FINEST.
MR. VIK BHIDE, AND MISS LAGRANGE FROM HART TO SEE IF WE CAN
AFFORD CRA FUNDS IN THE TUNE OF $16 MILLION TOWARD PREMIUM
TRANSIT URBAN CIRCULATOR THAT WILL RUN IN DEDICATED LANES
BETWEEN FT. BROOKE GARAGE AND THE TAMPA HEIGHTS USING THE
SAME ROADS THAT I ASKED FOR EXTENSION OF THE STREETCAR,
TAMPA, FLORIDA, PALM AVENUE.
URBAN CIRCULATE WILL PROVIDE SEAMLESS CONNECT BETWEEN TAMPA
HEIGHTS AND THE CHANNELSIDE DISTRICT AND YBOR IN CONJUNCTION
WITH THE TECO STREET LINE.
THE CIRCULATOR WILL ENABLE AGGRESSIVE OFF-PARKING
FACILITIES, ESPECIALLY THE HOUSING THAT IS BEING BUILT WITH
THE PARKING MINIMUMS LOWERED.
IN FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
GIVEN THE STREETCAR RIDERSHIP OF ONE MILLION PER YEAR WHICH
IS SECOND IN THE NATION.
THE EQUALITY OF THE CIRCULATOR WILL CONNECT UNDER THE
OBSERVED COMMUNITIES SEPARATED BY I-275.
I AM ASKING THIS BOARD TO PLEASE SECOND MY MOTION FOR A CRA
STAFF TO COME BACK AND TO DISCUSS FUNDING THAT WOULD HELP IN
THIS CIRCULATOR AND WILL HELP PEOPLE THAT NEED DOWNTOWN
WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CORRIDOR.
11:27:09AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL SECOND.
11:27:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:27:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO START WITH -- I
THINK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SOME BUS SERVICE.
BECAUSE THE TEST -- THE ARGUMENT AGAINST RAIL IS THAT YOU
BUILD SOMETHING HOPING THAT PEOPLE WILL RIDE IT AND THEY
DON'T ALWAYS RIDE IT.
BUT IF YOU START WITH SOMETHING FLEXIBLE FIRST, THEN YOU
PROVE -- YOU CAN PROVE THE CASE IF PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO
RIDE IT.
THEN YOU BUILD UP THE RIDERSHIP AND MAKE A CASE FOR
SOMETHING ELSE LATER ON.
MY ONLY QUESTION IS, WHY IS IT THE SAME PRICE, FOR A YEAR?
11:27:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM HOPING WE CAN REDUCE THAT.
I WOULD HOPE THAT THE CRA STAFF CAN COME BACK AND SAY, HEY,
WE WILL LOWER IT BY DOING 70 DAYS.
APPARENTLY HART DOESN'T WANT THE DESIGNATED AREAS OR ASPEN
THE FUNDING.
THAT IS WHAT IT WILL BE FOR.
THE DESIGNATED LANES GOING UP THE STREETS, TAMPA, PALM AND
FLORIDA AVENUES.
11:28:16AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
WE WILL COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT.
WE WILL LOOK AT THE EXISTING PLANS AND THEY WILL COME
FORWARD NOW AND IMPORTANT TO INCORPORATE TO AN UPDATE TO THE
DOWNTOWN PLAN.
TYPICALLY WHAT CRA FUNDS WILL BE ON CAPITAL NOT OPERATING
TYPE OF ITEMS.
AND WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
WE WILL BE GLAD TO LOOK AT IT.
11:28:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THE IDEA I HAD SPOKEN ABOUT PREVIOUSLY.
THIS ALL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PLANS, THE STRATEGIC ACTION
PLANS OF VARIOUS CRAS.
TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S, WITH THIS IDEA THAT IT IS NECESSARY
AND NEEDED AND COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE STREETCAR.
11:28:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:29:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON TRANSPORTATION, BUT
I WAS HERE WHEN THE TAMPA HAD THEIR OWN TRANSIT.
THE BUSES WHERE THEY GET AND GET THEIR CARS TO DRIVE HOME.
IT WAS ALSO THE MAINTENANCE SHED THERE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I REMEMBER THAT AND WHEN HARRY ORR CAUGHT ME ON THE BOTTOM
OF THE STEPS AND SAID THAT IS THE DUMBEST MOVE IN THE WORLD
WHEN YOU DISBAND IT, BECAUSE YOU GET ONE DOLLAR FROM THE
FEDS.
THEY WILL TELL YOU HOW TO RUN IT.
AND THEY DID.
I NEVER FORGET THE WORDS AFTER THAT.
HE SAID YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE BUS TO GO FROM HERE
TO WIMAUMA TO DROP ONE PASSENGER UP.
AND THEY DID.
IT STAYED ON.
WHAT HAPPENED -- AND, AGAIN, I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON TRANSIT.
TRANSIT DEPENDS ON SOMETHING COMING AT A CERTAIN HOUR AT A
CERTAIN TEAM ON A DAILY BASIS OFTEN.
THE WORD "OFTEN" IS WHAT I LOOK AT.
I LOOK AT OFTEN.
AND ANOTHER THING, RELATE IT TO THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS.
NO MATTER HOW GOOD THE FOOD TASTES, GO TO THE RESTAURANT 300
SEAT RESTAURANT AND 20 AND 30 PEOPLE EATING, YOU DO NOT GO
BACK.
THE BUSES WE RUN IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE NOT FULL.
THEY ARE HALF FULL.
AND THE PEOPLE ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING AT THE BUSES SAY WHY
SHOULD I SPEND MY MONEY ON BUSES BECAUSE NOBODY IS RIDING
THEM.
WHICH NOT THE FACT.
BUT IF THEY HAD MORE SMALLER BUSES ARE 20, 25 PASSENGERS,
NOT THE BIG MONSTERS THAT THEY HAVE AND GOING NATURAL GAS
AND ALL THAT AND ELECTRIC IN THE FUTURE AND ALL THAT.
BUT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF CAPITAL THAT YOU HAVE TO SPEND ON
A BIG BUS.
MUCH LESS CAPITAL ON TWO OR THREE BUSES THEN ONE BIG ONE AND
YOU MOVE TRAFFIC THAN THE BIG ONE WITH A BECAUSE THE BIG
ONES ARE NOT ACCEPTED BY THE PUBLIC.
THE SMALL BUSES CAN GO TO AREAS THAT THE BIG BUSES CANNOT GO
TO.
BETTER CARE AND SERVICE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
WE TO NOT DO THAT.
AGAIN I NEVER SAT AT HART.
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE PEOPLE TELL ME ON THE STREET.
IT IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT IF WE FUNDING IS AND SPEND THAT
MONEY, THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE LIKE A
WORKFORCE HOUSING OR ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO CALL -- THAT
IS NEEDED TODAY.
RENT SUBSIDIES CAN ONLY GO SO FAR.
INSTEAD OF PAYING THE RENT SUBSIDIES GET THE GOVERNMENT
TOGETHER AND BUILD HUNDRED OF FOURPLEXES SO PEOPLE CAN HAVE
THEIR OWN HOUSE.
RENT SUBSIDIES DOES NOT CURE IT EXACERBATED TO A DUMB DATE
AND IT GETS WORSE.
YOU GET TOGETHER WITH THE GOVERNMENT AND BUILD HOUSING, THEN
YOU ARE SOLVING THE PROBLEM.
I AM FOR HELPING THE PUBLIC BUT I CANNOT CONTINUE TO GIVE
THE MONEY AWAY AND NOT HAVE A RETURN FOR THEM TO HAVE A
BETTER LIFE IN THIS CITY.
11:31:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:32:00AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A GREAT IDEA TO WANT TO DO SOMETHING LIKE
THIS.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU, NOBODY RIDES THE BUS.
11:32:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DO.
11:32:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU MAY -- I KNOW YOU DO -- BECAUSE YOU ARE
-- YOU ARE IN THAT -- THAT STAGE.
BUT I CAN GO TO MY COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW -- I MAY HAVE RODE
THE BUS MAYBE TWICE.
11:32:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU ARE MISSING OUT.
11:32:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I RODE IT TWICE, MAN.
A COUPLE OF BALL PLAYERS GO -- I WILL RIDE THE BUS AND SEE
WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.
WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
BUT FOR ME, THIS TYPE OF MONEY -- MR. MIRANDA IS RIGHT.
WE NEED TO BE IN THE HOUSING BUSINESS, I AM SORRY.
THAT KIND OF MONEY SHOULD BE IN THE HOUSING BUSINESS.
WE NEED TO FIEND LAND AND WE NEED TO BUILD AND WE CONTROL
SOME HOUSING VERSUS THA, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY, DOING A
GREAT JOB.
WE NEED TO BE IN THE HOUSING BUSINESS AND PEOPLE ARE
DEPENDING ON THE CITY.
WHAT IS THE CITY DOING.
WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY MANAGE IT OR WHATEVER, BUT TO ME,
THOSE KEEP OF DOLLARS SOMEHOW WORKING WITH SOME DEVELOPERS,
BUILDING SOME HOUSING UNITS TO PUT PEOPLE IN HOUSING
SOMEWHERE.
I SUPPORT IT TODAY JUST TO SEE WHAT IT WILL BE LIKE, BUT I
DON'T KNOW IN THE FUTURE.
MY FOCUS RIGHT NOW -- ALL I HEAR -- THE NUMBER ONE TOPIC OF
YOU GOING TO THESE DEBATES AND SHOWING UP AND PEOPLE CARING
ABOUT -- THEY TALK ABOUT TRANSIT BUT THAT IS NUMBER TWO, TWO
AND A HALF OR THREE ON THE LIST.
RIGHT NOW ALL THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING, FOUR WALLS AND
A ROOF.
I AM JUST SAYING.
11:33:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:33:37AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.
I THINK WHAT WE ARE DOING TODAY IS ASKING STAFF TO COME BACK
AND REPORT ON IT.
WE ARE NOT APPROVING IT.
IT IS A CONCEPT TO LOOK AT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PRICE WILL BE.
MY COLLEAGUE THREW OUT A NUMBER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL COST.
PROBABLY LESS THAN THAT.
ALL OF THE PEOPLE UPSET OF POTHOLES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
BECAUSE IT IS CRA, WE CAN'T TRANSFER IT TO SOUTH TOP DO
THAT.
OTHER THING WE HAVE SEEN RIDERSHIP ON THE STREETCAR INCREASE
DRAMATICALLY.
I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS LIKE MY COLLEAGUES HERE BUT IN THE
PAST WE FUNDED THESE OTHER SERVICES IN DOWNTOWN WHICH I WAS
NOT IN FAVOR OF.
IF WE ARE TRYING TO SEE IF LIKE PROOF OF CONCEPT IS
EXPANDING THE STREET CAR FEASIBLE OR NOT.
THIS IS A MUCH BETTER OPTION THAN SPENDING THE MONEY TO GO
AHEAD AND BUILD SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY EXPENSIVE WHEN,
INSTEAD, WE CAN TEST IT WITH -- WITH WHEELED VEHICLES.
AND IT WON'T BE THE SAME RIDERSHIP AS THE STREET CAR WILL BE
EVENTUALLY AND AT LEAST WE CAN TEST IT.
THE LAST THING IS THAT TRANSPORTATION IS ALWAYS -- ACCESS TO
PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS NECESSARY FOR TRANSIT-ORIENTED
DEVELOPMENT AND DENSITY ALLOW US TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING
AND THEY GO TOGETHER.
AS THIS GOES UP AND MAKE A COMMITMENT.
AT LEAST WITH WHEELED VEHICLES.
IT WILL GIVE THE INVESTMENT COMMUNITY SOME COMFORT THAT THIS
MIGHT STAY.
IF THAT HAPPENS, IT WILL BUILD DENSITY AMONG IT WHICH WILL
INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ADD TO THE TAX ROLLS OF THE
CITY AND PROVIDE FOR OTHER THINGS AND PROVIDE MORE UNITS TO
PUT MORE UNITS ON THE MARKET AND TRY TO INCENTIVIZE THEM TO
PUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
11:35:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
11:35:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ONE LAST THING.
IF WE CAN REMEMBER, I CHAMPIONED A $10 MILLION PURCHASE OF
THE OLD ARMY-NAVY STORE DESIGNATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS WILL RUN RIGHT BY IT.
SO I AM SAYING -- WHAT -- WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT PUT THIS
IN PLACE.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS SAYING DENSITY BECOMES AFFORDABLE
HOUSING.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
11:35:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM JUST GOING TO SAY THAT BOARD MEMBER
CARLSON HIT MORE ON WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
TRANSIT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING GO TOGETHER.
IF WE ARE BUILDING MORE HOUSING MORE CARS AND PEOPLE WILL
COMPLAIN ABOUT TRAFFIC.
ONLY WAY TO ALLEVIATE THAT IS TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF
TRANSPORTATION.
IT IS HARD TO SEE NOW, BUT IT IS COMING.
I HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON TO JUST ASK STAFF TO COME
BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT.
SO -- MARCH 9.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
OKAY.
MOTION PASSES.
ANYTHING FROM --
11:36:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS MIGHT BE BEFORE MANY OF OUR TIME
HERE, BUT BURT BACHARACH PASSED AWAY.
NOTHING TO DO WITH CITY BUSINESS.
ONE OF THE GREAT OF THE 20th CENTURY.
BURT BACHARACH.
11:36:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I AM COMING BACK FROM THIS.
11:36:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOTHING.
I SAW THAT.
11:36:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WHAT HAPPENED?
11:37:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE DIED.
11:37:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF I MAY.
IF I CAN ADD ON TO THAT.
HE IS PROBABLY THE GREATEST AMERICAN SONGWRITER NEXT TO DUKE
ELLINGTON.
EVERY GREAT SONG THAT -- WHO WAS IT, DIONNE WARWICK DID WAS
WRITTEN BY BURT BACHARACH.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
11:37:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:37:26AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION BUT I WANT
TO ALERT, ANOTHER PUSH-PULL OUT THAT YOU IS INCREDIBLY
DISPARAGING OF CITY COUNCIL IN GENERAL.
IT ASKS SPECIFIC NAMES ABOUT SPECIFIC PEOPLE.
BUT IT IS REALLY DISAPPOINTING WHOEVER IS DOING IT THAT IT
IS -- THAT THEY -- THEY SO EASILY DISPARAGE CITY COUNCIL.
I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO LOOK AT IT AND IF YOU DON'T SEE
IT, I AM HAPPY TO READ SOME OF THEM TONIGHT.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO -- WE OUGHT TO TRY TO PLAY FAIR IN THIS
COMMUNITY AND TALK ABOUT ISSUES INSTEAD OF -- INSTEAD OF
PERSONAL ATTACKS LIKE THAT.
THANK YOU.
11:38:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
THANK YOU.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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