TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 2023
9:00 A.M.
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09:01:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:01:12AM GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:01:14AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS NOW OPEN FOR REGULAR SESSION, FEBRUARY
09:01:17AM 16, 2023.
09:01:19AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:01:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:01:24AM MY PLEASURE TO RECOGNIZE ERICA ALLEN, A PASTOR AT HORIZON
09:01:31AM CHURCH, A NEW CONGREGATION IN TAMPA.
09:01:33AM PURCHASED PINORAMA AND RENOVATING THE BOWLING ALLEY TO
09:01:39AM ACCOMPANY ROOM FOR KIDS MINISTRIES AND UPDATING REST ROOMS
09:01:44AM TO ACCOMMODATE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY FOR SPECIAL NEEDS.
09:01:46AM USED PRIMARILY AS A BOWLING ALLEY FOR LEAGUES AND OPEN LANES
09:01:51AM AND BUILDING A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE THAT SHINE LIGHT AND
09:01:54AM UNITE CHANGE FOR THIS ICONIC TAMPA SPOT WAS CLOSE TO HER
09:01:59AM HEART AND THE PEOPLE OF THE CHURCH.
09:02:00AM WHILE THEY WAIT FOR THE PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED, MEETING AT
09:02:03AM WRIGHT'S GOURMET -- THE BEST CAKE IN TOWN IN TAMPA -- AT 10
09:02:07AM A.M. ON SUNDAYS AND ENGAGE IN MINISTRY OPPORTUNITIES
09:02:11AM THROUGHOUT THE WEEK.
09:02:12AM THE MINISTRY MOST PROUD WITH CARAMOTE.
09:02:18AM THEY EAT LUNCH WITH FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADERS OF MENTORSHIP
09:02:22AM WHO ARE ENTERING THE TRANSITION BETWEEN ELEMENTARY AND
09:02:25AM MIDDLE SCHOOL.
09:02:26AM THIS PROGRAM IMPROVED ATTENDANCE, REFERRALS, AND POSITIVE
09:02:31AM IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
09:02:32AM NO ONE KNOWS WHO LOVES THE PROGRAMS MORE, THE KIDS OR THE
09:02:35AM MENTORS.
09:02:36AM ERICA'S HEART TO SHINE LIGHT AND ENGAGE PEOPLE WHO ACTIVELY
09:02:42AM LIVE OUT THEIR FAITH.
09:02:44AM SHE LOVES THE CITY AND HOPEFUL FOR THE DAYS AHEAD FOR TAMPA
09:02:48AM AND HORIZON CHURCH.
09:02:49AM IF YOU WILL, PLEASE STAND AND LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION.
09:02:57AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:02:58AM I WANT TO ENCOURAGE US TO TAKE A DEEP BREATH IN AND DEEP
09:03:02AM BREATH OUT TO BE PRESENT IN THIS ROOM THIS MORNING.
09:03:05AM LET US PRAY, DEAR GRATEFUL AND LOVING GOD, THANK YOU FOR
09:03:10AM EACH PERSON IN THIS ROOM.
09:03:11AM THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE WHO GIVE OF THEIR TIMES AND LIVES
09:03:14AM TO MAKE OUR CITY BETTER.
09:03:16AM THANK YOU FOR THESE COUNCILMEN AND COUNCILWOMEN WHO WORK
09:03:19AM LATE NIGHT AND EARLY MORNINGS TO HEAR FROM CONSTITUENTS.
09:03:23AM MAY THEIR WORK BUILD A COMMUNITY THAT RECOGNIZES ALL PEOPLE
09:03:27AM AS PEOPLE OF WORTH AND IMPORTANCE.
09:03:28AM GIVE THESE LEADERS WISDOM AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS AND MOVE
09:03:32AM OUR CITY FORWARD.
09:03:33AM GIVE THE PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK TODAY WITH CALMNESS, PEACE, AND
09:03:38AM STRENGTH.
09:03:38AM GOD, I PRAY FOR ALL THE CITY LEADERS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS
09:03:42AM IN FRONT OF ME AND BEHIND ME GIVE THEM STRENGTH TO FIGHT FOR
09:03:48AM THE DESIRES AND VISIONS IN THEIR HEART.
09:03:50AM GIVE THEM REST AND SPACE TO BE QUIET SO THEY MAY KNOW
09:03:54AM THEMSELVES IN YOUR STEAD TO GIVE A BRIGHTER AND RESTORED
09:03:57AM WORLD.
09:03:58AM GIVE ASSURANCES OF THEIR PURPOSE AND THEIR IMPORTANCE IN
09:04:02AM LIVING OUT THEIR PURPOSE TO BUILD THE BEST CITY IN THE
09:04:05AM ENTIRE WORLD.
09:04:05AM THOSE IN THE ROOM THAT ARE ANXIOUS AND FEARFUL, GRANT THEM
09:04:10AM PEACE.
09:04:10AM THOSE STRESSED AND WORN OUT, GRANT THEM JOY IN THEIR WORK.
09:04:14AM THOSE ANGRY AND UPSET, HELP THEM TO FIND RESOLUTION TODAY.
09:04:17AM THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN WRONGED, GIVE THEM THE FREEDOM THAT
09:04:21AM FORGIVENESS BRINGS AND RECONCILE TO ONE ANOTHER.
09:04:24AM THOSE HERE TO CELEBRATE TODAY, MULTIPLY THEIR JOY TENFOLD.
09:04:28AM THOSE SURROUNDING CONOR AND OTHERS AS THEY CELEBRATE TODAY,
09:04:33AM REMIND US THAT SUPPORTING ONE ANOTHER TRULY BUILDS A
09:04:37AM BEAUTIFUL CITY.
09:04:38AM FOR OUR CITY, GOD, WE PRAY FOR YOUR PROTECTION.
09:04:41AM WE TURN ON THE NEWS AND HEAR OF VIOLENT ACTS IN CITIES AND
09:04:46AM ACROSS OUR WORLD.
09:04:47AM THIS MORNING, WE LIFT UP THOSE IN EL PASO.
09:04:51AM WE PRAY FOR THOSE IN TURKEY, WHO ARE RECOVERING FROM THE
09:04:54AM EARTHQUAKE THIS WEEK.
09:04:54AM WE PRAY FOR YOUR SAFETY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE HERE IN TAMPA,
09:04:58AM FOR THE CHILDREN IN THEIR SCHOOLS TODAY, FOR THE PEOPLE WHO
09:05:01AM WERE SHOPPING IN OUR STORES AND MALLS.
09:05:04AM THOSE WHO WORK.
09:05:05AM THOSE TRAVELING, WALKING AND BIKING ON OUR ROADS.
09:05:08AM PROTECT YOUR PEOPLE, GOD.
09:05:09AM AND HELP US ALL TO LEAD OUR CITY IN A WAY THAT PRESERVES
09:05:12AM LIFE.
09:05:13AM FOR THOSE WHO SLEPT OUTSIDE LAST NIGHT, THOSE KIDS WHO
09:05:16AM SHOWED UP TO SCHOOLS WITH EMPTY BELLIES AND EMPTY HEARTS
09:05:19AM THIS MORNING, FOR THOSE WHO ARE SHOWING UP TO WORK UNSURE OF
09:05:22AM THE FUTURE, HELP US TO SEE THEM AND CREATE A COMMUNITY THAT
09:05:26AM CARES FOR THE LEAST OF THESE TWO.
09:05:28AM THANK YOU, GOD, FOR THE FLORIDA SUNSHINE AND FOR THE SPRING
09:05:32AM THAT COMES ALIVE HERE IN FEBRUARY.
09:05:33AM THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF GETTING TO LIVE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL
09:05:37AM CITY.
09:05:38AM THANK YOU FOR THE SUN THAT SHINED ON OUR SKIN ON THE WAY IN.
09:05:41AM THE GENTLE BREEZE THAT MAKES TODAY BEAUTIFUL.
09:05:45AM THESE NOT THINGS TAKEN FOR GRANTED AND SIMPLE AND FREE GIFTS
09:05:51AM TO BLESS US, CALM US AND PROPEL US FORWARD THAT WE MAY ALL
09:05:54AM SHINE LIGHT AND IGNITE CHANGE.
09:05:56AM AMEN.
09:05:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AMEN.
09:05:58AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:06:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:06:12AM PLEASE BE SEATED.
09:06:13AM ROLL CALL.
09:06:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:06:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:06:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:06:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:06:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:06:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:06:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:06:24AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:06:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
09:06:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:06:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: COUPLE OF THINGS REAL FAST.
09:06:32AM I GO TO THREE CHURCHES AND ERICA AND CHRIS HAVE HORIZON,
09:06:36AM WHICH IS ONE OF THE CHURCHES I GO TO AND I LOVE.
09:06:38AM THEY ARE GREAT INNOVATIVE PEOPLE WHO ARE MAKING GREAT
09:06:43AM INROADS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
09:06:45AM SO THANK YOU.
09:06:45AM SECOND, MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE, DOSI, HAD A BABY YESTERDAY
09:06:52AM MORNING.
09:06:52AM [APPLAUSE]
09:06:53AM EXCITED FOR HER.
09:06:54AM AND I HAVE A TEMP, ANDREW ELMAN, RIGHT OVER THERE, AND I JUST
09:07:00AM MET HIM.
09:07:01AM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM.
09:07:03AM SO ANY CONSTITUENTS WATCHING, I THINK HE WILL JUMP RIGHT IN.
09:07:07AM IF WE MISS A STEP, PLEASE FORGIVE US FOR THE NEXT THREE
09:07:11AM MONTHS.
09:07:11AM THANK YOU.
09:07:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT THE
09:07:16AM MINUTES FROM THE MEETING OF JANUARY 26 AND FEBRUARY 2.
09:07:24AM A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:07:26AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:07:27AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:07:28AM ANY OBJECTION?
09:07:29AM MOTION PASSES.
09:07:32AM WE ALREADY HAD ROLL CALL.
09:07:35AM SULING, DID WE HAVE ROLL CALL?
09:07:38AM >> YES.
09:07:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
09:07:40AM [LAUGHTER]
09:07:41AM LET'S GET TO THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, PLEASE.
09:07:43AM CHIEF, ARE YOU WITH US?
09:07:49AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:07:52AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:07:54AM GOOD MORNING TO OUR PUBLIC AND OUR VIEWERS.
09:07:57AM OBVIOUSLY I WILL DEFER TO COUNCIL FOR ITEMS ONE AND TWO.
09:08:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL STILL HAVE THAT.
09:08:03AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
09:08:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, NO.
09:08:06AM I AM JUST PREPARING.
09:08:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 3.
09:08:09AM WE WILL KEEP THERE.
09:08:10AM SOME OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT WILL BE THERE.
09:08:12AM LET'S SEE.
09:08:13AM NUMBER 4.
09:08:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE SOMETHING.
09:08:17AM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 21 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA
09:08:22AM TO BE TALKED ABOUT AT NUMBER -- DURING ADMINISTRATIVE
09:08:26AM UPDATES.
09:08:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 21.
09:08:33AM ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE AN AGENDA UPDATE -- EXCUSE ME, AN
09:08:36AM ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE FOR US TODAY, CHIEF?
09:08:40AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I DO NOT, PENDING A REQUEST FROM COUNCIL
09:08:42AM WANTING TO TALK OF THE EVENTS AROUND THE NIGHT PARADE, BUT
09:08:45AM OTHER THAN THAT, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE ITEM 21, BUT WOULD
09:08:48AM REQUIRE A VOTE AS WELL.
09:08:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
09:08:51AM I AM GOING TO HOPE THAT WE ARE GOING TO GIVE ALL OF OUR
09:08:54AM TAMPA CITY EMPLOYEES THEIR DUE FOR THE GREAT AND EXCELLENT
09:08:57AM WORK THAT THEY DID FOR THE NIGHT PARADE.
09:09:01AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, WE WILL BE HEARING THAT.
09:09:05AM SEVEN, ALSO.
09:09:07AM EIGHT, I BELIEVE, IS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
09:09:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:09:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FANTASTIC.
09:09:15AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9?
09:09:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM FINE.
09:09:19AM REPORT IS FINE.
09:09:21AM I WILL PROBABLY COMMENT ON IT.
09:09:23AM THIS IS A SIDEWALK THAT I REQUESTED AT LIBERTY MANOR, A
09:09:26AM VETERANS HOME, THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WAS KIND ENOUGH TO
09:09:29AM FUND.
09:09:30AM AND THAT IS A GREAT THING FOR THAT -- FOR THOSE GOOD FOLKS
09:09:33AM THERE.
09:09:33AM NO NEED FOR A REPORT ON THAT.
09:09:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS NOW
09:09:38AM THEN?
09:09:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
09:09:39AM THAT'S IT.
09:09:40AM THANK YOU.
09:09:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND
09:09:44AM CANCEL OUT.
09:09:44AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:09:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, IF I CAN HAVE MR. VIK BHIDE
09:09:49AM AVAILABLE.
09:09:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FANTASTIC.
09:09:53AM I SEE A NOTE COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU WILL CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER
09:09:57AM 11.
09:09:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: MY ITEM FOR A PAID INTERNSHIP WITH PEOPLE WITH
09:10:03AM INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.
09:10:05AM ADMINISTRATION NEEDS MORE TIME.
09:10:07AM HOW ABOUT WE DO IT IN THE LAST WEEK -- EIGHT WEEKS, TWO
09:10:10AM MONTHS.
09:10:10AM IF YOU ALL NEED MORE TIME, LET ME KNOW.
09:10:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN ASK WE HAVE A DATE PLEASE?
09:10:18AM >>JOHN BENNETT: BACK UP TO ITEM 10.
09:10:19AM MR. VIK BHIDE IS OUT OF THE OFFICE AND JEAN DUNCAN OR
09:10:24AM BRANDON CAMPBELL STANDING IN FOR HIM.
09:10:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
09:10:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM SORRY, COUNCILMAN GUDES, ONE SECOND
09:10:32AM PLEASE.
09:10:32AM YOU HAVE A MOTION?
09:10:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
09:10:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU HAVE A SECOND.
09:10:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:10:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR?
09:10:40AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:10:41AM MOTION PASSES.
09:10:42AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:10:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: JUST A FOOTNOTE, WHILE WE ARE TALKING OF
09:10:49AM YOUNG PEOPLE GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY.
09:10:50AM COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE YOUTH PROGRAM THAT WE ARE
09:10:54AM TRYING TO ESTABLISH IN EAST TAMPA, THAT SOME OF THE
09:10:58AM DEPARTMENT HEADS SEEM TO BE HAVING PUSH BACK.
09:11:02AM AND I AM HOPING THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE.
09:11:06AM THE PROGRAM IS DESIGNED FOR EVERYBODY, AND I KNOW THAT SOLID
09:11:10AM WASTE GRACIOUSLY WANTS TO BE INVOLVED, BUT THE PROGRAM,
09:11:12AM AGAIN, IS NOT FOR KIDS PICKING UP TRASH.
09:11:15AM MY UNDERSTANDING IS HEARING RUMORS THAT A LOT OF THE
09:11:18AM DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE HAVING PUSH BACK OF HAVING YOUNG PEOPLE
09:11:21AM WORKING AND BEING MENTORED.
09:11:23AM I AM HOPING THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
09:11:25AM IF IT IS, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL ADDRESS THAT IN YOUR
09:11:28AM EXECUTIVE STAFF MEETING THAT WE NEED TO BE GOOD STEWARDS AND
09:11:32AM OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE OUR FUTURE AND THEY NEED TO KNOW THE
09:11:35AM WORKFORCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:11:37AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JUST TO BE CLEAR THIS IS THE YOUTH WORK
09:11:41AM GROUPS.
09:11:41AM NOT INTERNSHIPS, CORRECT?
09:11:45AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.
09:11:46AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WILL CHECK IN WITH OCEA.
09:11:49AM I HEARD A LITTLE LOGISTICAL DISCUSSIONS, BUT HAVEN'T HEARD
09:11:53AM ANYTHING ABOUT PUSH BACK.
09:11:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GET WITH MR. McCRAY AND GINA ABOUT GETTING
09:12:01AM PUSH BACK.
09:12:02AM YOU ARE STARTING TO GET UP AND SAY SOMETHING?
09:12:05AM >> NO.
09:12:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL WANT TO BE
09:12:09AM GOOD PLAYERS FOR OUR CHILDREN TO GIVE OPPORTUNITIES AND NOT
09:12:13AM PUSH BACK.
09:12:14AM I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH KIDS, BUT THE
09:12:17AM PROGRAM WILL BE VIABLE TO THIS CITY.
09:12:19AM I AM HOPING THAT THE ADMINISTRATORS AND MANAGERS UNDERSTAND
09:12:22AM THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT.
09:12:23AM >>JOHN BENNETT: YEP.
09:12:24AM I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
09:12:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:12:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
09:12:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOOD.
09:12:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:12:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, PLEASE.
09:12:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 13, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:12:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:12:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:12:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:12:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 15, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
09:12:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:12:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 16, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:12:51AM CONTINUED INTO APRIL 20.
09:12:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME.
09:12:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:12:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE DATE?
09:13:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY?
09:13:03AM OKAY.
09:13:04AM I AM COMING BACK HERE.
09:13:06AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15, HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THAT TO
09:13:10AM MARCH 2, 2023.
09:13:11AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:13:13AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:13:15AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:13:16AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:13:17AM MOTION PASSES.
09:13:18AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16 ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE UNTIL APRIL
09:13:24AM 20, 2023.
09:13:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
09:13:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
09:13:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR?
09:13:29AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:13:30AM MOTION PASSES.
09:13:31AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 17.
09:13:32AM IT HAS BEEN ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 16, 2023.
09:13:38AM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:13:40AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:13:42AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:13:43AM ANY OPPOSE?
09:13:44AM AGENDA ITEM 18 HAS ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE UNTIL APRIL 20,
09:13:49AM 2023.
09:13:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
09:13:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:13:53AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:13:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
09:13:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
09:13:57AM OPPOSED?
09:13:58AM MOTION PASSES.
09:13:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE TO TALK
09:14:01AM ABOUT THIS ITEM.
09:14:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHICH ITEM IS IT?
09:14:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ITEM NUMBER 18.
09:14:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS TRAVIS.
09:14:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY.
09:14:11AM WITH REGARD TO ITEM 18.
09:14:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 18, YES?
09:14:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE THAT MEMORANDUM.
09:14:19AM IF THE PEOPLE ARE HERE TO SPEAK, IF THEY STILL WISH TO SPEAK
09:14:22AM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:14:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S KEEP IT AT 10 --
09:14:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE ON NUMBER 18.
09:14:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: KEEP IT OPEN FOR NOW AND PUBLIC COMMENT FOR
09:14:34AM PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT CAN SPEAK ABOUT THAT
09:14:37AM THEN.
09:14:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:14:40AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WILL LET THE DIRECTOR KNOW.
09:14:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:14:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19 ASKED FOR A
09:14:45AM CONTINUANCE TOO APRIL 20.
09:14:46AM A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:14:48AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:14:50AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:14:51AM THANK YOU.
09:14:52AM I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE ADDENDUM.
09:15:01AM >> SO MOVED.
09:15:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:15:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE UNTIL MAY 18.
09:15:09AM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:15:10AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:15:14AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:15:16AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:15:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
09:15:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:15:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:15:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:15:27AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:15:28AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:15:29AM OPPOSED?
09:15:31AM MOTION PASSES.
09:15:32AM OKAY, THANK YOU ALL.
09:15:33AM MR. SHELBY.
09:15:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, MARTIN SHELBY, QUICK MOTION
09:15:39AM TO WAIVE THE RULES TO ALLOW THE CONTINUED USE OF CMT.
09:15:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:15:45AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:15:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR?
09:15:48AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:15:49AM MOTION PASSES.
09:15:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:15:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:16:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO THANK COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO
09:16:21AM DO THIS DURING GENERAL SESSION.
09:16:23AM COMMENDATION FOR MR. CONOR DARKEN WHO HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY
09:16:28AM OF TAMPA FOR A FEW YEARS AS MY ASSISTANT, LEGISLATIVE AIDE.
09:16:33AM AND CONOR IS HERE WITH HIS WONDERFUL MOTHER, TERRI; FATHER,
09:16:39AM KEVIN; WONDERFUL SISTER, COLLEEN; AND CHRIS, HIS TWIN
09:16:43AM BROTHER, WHO IS GREAT GUY AND WHAT NOT.
09:16:45AM CONOR HAS BEEN WITH US FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS AND HAS DONE A
09:16:51AM VERY, VERY GOOD JOB.
09:16:52AM I HAD THE PLEASURE MEETING CONOR WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR
09:16:56AM OFFICE.
09:16:56AM SITTING AT THE STARBUCKS OVER AT THE HILTON, AND HE WILL
09:17:01AM COME UP TO ME AND SAID HEY, YOU ARE RUNNING FOR OFFICE, AND
09:17:04AM WE MEET AT THE NEW TAMPA STARBUCKS TWO DAYS LATER AND HIS
09:17:09AM WONDERFUL MOTHER CAME WITH HIM, AND WE BECAME FRIENDS THEN.
09:17:13AM I HAD THE GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE CONOR AS MY ASSISTANT
09:17:18AM LEGISLATIVE AIDE AND CONOR DONE A WONDERFUL JOB TO US.
09:17:23AM HE IS PASSIONATE ABOUT PUBLIC POLICY AND CIVIC ISSUES RANGES
09:17:27AM FROM TRANSPORTATION TO DISABILITY ACCESS TO SOCIAL JUSTICE
09:17:30AM AND EQUITY ISSUES AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM AND IF MANY,
09:17:36AM MANY ISSUES.
09:17:37AM HE HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM US -- I SAY THAT IN THE PLAYFUL WAY
09:17:41AM WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
09:17:42AM THERE, HEY, THERE YOU GO.
09:17:45AM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
09:17:46AM BY OUR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE WHERE HE IS GOING
09:17:50AM TO BE A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE.
09:17:52AM SO WE ARE SO HAPPY TO SEE THIS COME FORWARD.
09:17:55AM AND LET'S THANK HIM, COUNCILMEN.
09:17:58AM LET'S GIVE HIM A HAND.
09:17:58AM [APPLAUSE]
09:18:01AM AND CONOR HAS A REAL THIRST FOR JUSTICE AND FOR PUBLIC
09:18:07AM POLICY ABOUT JUSTICE, AND HE COMES FROM A FAMILY THAT
09:18:10AM PURSUES THAT THAT PURSUES PUBLIC SERVICE.
09:18:13AM BARBARA THOMAS, A STAFF ATTORNEY FOR JUDGE BARBARA THOMAS IN
09:18:20AM THE 13th JUDICIAL DISTRICT AND HIS WONDERFUL MOTHER USED TO
09:18:23AM WORK WITH, IF I RECALL, SENATOR EUGENE McCARTHY.
09:18:27AM YOU HELPED HIM WRITE HIS MEMOIR.
09:18:30AM YOU REMEMBER IN 1968 FOR EUGENE, HE RAN WITH PRESIDENT
09:18:37AM JOHNSON IN THE PRIMARY.
09:18:38AM U.S. MINNESOTA.
09:18:39AM I THINK IT WAS MINNESOTA, AS I RECALL.
09:18:41AM SO WE ARE HERE TO GIVE IN COMMENDATION TO CONOR AND I WANTED
09:18:46AM TO MENTION FOLKS HERE AS WELL.
09:18:47AM OUR FRIENDS OPINION FROM McDONALD TRANING CENTER HERE AS
09:18:52AM WELL AS FOR CONOR.
09:18:54AM DJ REYES AND JULIE REYES.
09:19:02AM AND WHO --
09:19:03AM >> THE CLERK OF COURT'S OFFICE.
09:19:05AM >> THE CLERK OF COURT.
09:19:06AM WE WANTED TO GIVE THE CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO MR. CONOR
09:19:12AM DARKEN FOR WEARING HIS HEART ON HIS SLEEVE, WINNING SERVICE
09:19:17AM AND WHAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO WITH OUR WONDERFUL CLERK OF
09:19:20AM COURT.
09:19:21AM SO CONOR, THIS BUD IS FOR YOU, BUDDY.
09:19:21AM [APPLAUSE]
09:19:27AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
09:19:43AM THIS IS A GREAT HONOR.
09:19:46AM IT WAS EXTREMELY UNEXPECTED.
09:19:52AM THROUGHOUT MY LIFE, I HAVE BEEN PASSIONATE OF THE WORKING OF
09:19:56AM GOVERNMENT, LOCAL, AND STATE GOVERNMENT.
09:19:57AM I THINK GOVERNMENTAL BODIES CAN HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON
09:20:02AM PEOPLE'S DAILY LIVES.
09:20:03AM LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE THE CAPACITY TO IMPROVE THE
09:20:06AM LIVES OF ALL KINDS OF CITIZENS.
09:20:09AM FOR VULNERABLE PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, LOCAL
09:20:14AM GOVERNMENT IS CLEARLY CRUCIAL.
09:20:17AM MANY PEOPLE WITH AUTISM AND OTHER DISABILITIES, LIKE MYSELF,
09:20:22AM OFTEN DON'T KNOW THEY HAVE A VOICE OR THEY DON'T KNOW ANYONE
09:20:25AM CARES ABOUT THEIR NEEDS OR THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN
09:20:28AM EXPRESSING THOSE NEEDS OR DEALING WITH THEM.
09:20:30AM I AM GRATEFUL BECAUSE NOT ONLY DOES THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:20:33AM UNDERSTAND MY VOICE MATTERS, BUT YOU ALLOWED ME TO PUT MY
09:20:38AM VOICE HERE IN THIS CHAMBER.
09:20:41AM REPRESENTATION MATTERS.
09:20:45AM I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LEND MY VOICE AND GIVEN ATTENTION BY A
09:20:48AM GOVERNMENT THAT CARES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT MOST.
09:20:51AM EVEN IF, ADMITTEDLY, I DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:20:54AM I AM VERY LUCKY BECAUSE I HAVE A LARGE TEAM OF SUPPORTERS,
09:20:59AM MANY OF WHOM ARE HERE TODAY.
09:21:01AM WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY -- MY FELLOW TRAINING CENTER FRIENDS
09:21:06AM AND CO-WORKERS.
09:21:07AM AND MY FAMILY, ESPECIALLY MY TWIN BROTHER, CHRISTOPHER WHO
09:21:13AM USES HIS AUTISTIC BRAIN TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE WITH AUTISM
09:21:19AM EVERY DAY AT USF.
09:21:20AM WITHOUT YOU AND COUNCILMAN VIERA, I WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY
09:21:24AM WITH A FULL-TIME JOB.
09:21:26AM THANK YOU, ALL.
09:21:29AM [APPLAUSE]
09:21:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO CONOR, NOW WE HAVE COUNCILMEMBERS WHO ARE
09:21:40AM HERE AND I ASKED YOUR WONDERFUL PARENTS IF YOU WANT TO SAY
09:21:43AM ANYTHING.
09:21:43AM IF YOU ALL WANT TO, YOU MAY.
09:21:45AM ARE YOU SURE?
09:21:46AM GREAT.
09:21:46AM KEVIN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, YOU WENT TO LAW SCHOOL WITH
09:21:50AM JUDGE KAGAN.
09:21:51AM JUSTICE KAGAN.
09:21:52AM HE IS ALWAYS VERY JEALOUS TO ME BECAUSE I WENT TO STETSON
09:21:57AM LAW SCHOOL AND HE WENT TO HARVARD.
09:21:59AM GO AHEAD, COUNCIL.
09:22:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:22:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: CONOR, THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE CITY
09:22:10AM AND CONGRATS ON YOUR POSITION.
09:22:11AM IT HAS BEEN GREAT TO KNOW YOU.
09:22:14AM I KNEW YOU FROM THE COMMUNITY.
09:22:15AM OVER BEFORE YOU CAME TO WORK HERE, YOU WERE WHEREVER IN THE
09:22:18AM COMMUNITY AND YOU ARE SOMEONE THAT CARES DEEPLY ABOUT THE
09:22:21AM COMMUNITY AND NOT SOMEONE WHO IS ATTENTION SEEKING BUT
09:22:27AM LOOKING TO DO THE HARD WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:22:29AM I AM SURE YOU WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
09:22:32AM PARTNERS AND SUPPORTING YOU IN WHATEVER GREAT THINGS DO YOU.
09:22:35AM THANK YOU.
09:22:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:22:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS RECOGNITION AND
09:22:41AM BEST OF LUCK TO YOU AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.
09:22:44AM I HAD THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING YOU WHEN YOU WERE BEHIND THE
09:22:48AM SCENES AT CITY HALL.
09:22:48AM I ENJOYED YOUR FRIENDSHIP AND YOUR DEDICATED TO -- YOUR
09:22:53AM DEDICATION TO PUBLIC SERVICE.
09:22:54AM VERY LUCKY TO HAVE SOME TIME WITH YOU HERE.
09:22:56AM AND BEST OF LUCK TO YOU.
09:22:57AM I KNOW YOU WILL DO AND CONTINUE TO DO MANY WONDERFUL THINGS.
09:23:00AM SO --
09:23:02AM >> THANK YOU.
09:23:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:23:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CONGRATULATIONS.
09:23:06AM WHAT A WONDERFUL STORY.
09:23:07AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE HERE AND ALL THE
09:23:10AM WORK YOU WILL DO WITH THE CLERK OF COURT.
09:23:12AM A HUGE LEAP.
09:23:13AM YOU SHOULD BE INCREDIBLY, INCREDIBLY PROUD AND EXCITED
09:23:17AM BECAUSE WE ARE PROUD AND EXCITED FOR YOU.
09:23:19AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:23:19AM AND KEEP DOING AND BEING THE WONDERFUL PERSON YOU ARE.
09:23:23AM >> THANK YOU.
09:23:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:23:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR ENLIGHTENING THE COMMUNITY.
09:23:33AM YOU ENLIGHTENED US IN 2019 WITH WHY YOU ARE ADVOCACY.
09:23:37AM AND MADE ME START LOOKING AT OTHER MINORITIES COMMUNITIES
09:23:41AM THAT FACE THESE SAME TYPE OF CHALLENGES.
09:23:43AM YOU KNOW CONOR, YOU TALK OF REPRESENTATION AND KEY FOR ALL
09:23:50AM PEOPLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
09:23:52AM A FULL-TIME JOB.
09:23:53AM HE IS HAPPY.
09:23:54AM HE IS ELATED ABOUT THAT.
09:23:55AM GETTING THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH OTHERS AND SHOW HIS
09:23:58AM SKILLS THAT PEOPLE MAY NOT SEE OR KNOW ABOUT.
09:24:01AM I AM PROUD FOR YOU TODAY.
09:24:02AM THAT'S WHY I TALK SO MUCH HOW OUR YOUNG PEOPLE AND GIVING
09:24:05AM THEM OPPORTUNITIES IN THE CITY.
09:24:06AM UNDERSTAND WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT THEY CAN DO.
09:24:09AM SO, AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS.
09:24:11AM I KNOW YOU WILL DO WELL.
09:24:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:24:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:24:18AM CONOR, I KNEW YOU FOR QUITE A WHILE.
09:24:22AM AND YOU DID WORK FOR COUNCILMAN VIERA BUT ATTUNED TO WHAT IS
09:24:26AM GOING ON IN THE CHAMBERS.
09:24:28AM YOUR DILIGENT OF ONE STEP AT A TIME, NOT BACKWARDS BUT
09:24:35AM FORWARD IS WHERE YOU ARE AT.
09:24:36AM INSPIRATION FOR ANYONE WHO IS SEEKING TO BE ANYWHERE -- JOBS
09:24:40AM IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
09:24:40AM YOU EPITOMIZE THE INDIVIDUAL WHO SAYS, I CAN DO IT.
09:24:44AM NOT THAT I CANNOT DO IT.
09:24:47AM WITH THAT ATTITUDE, FAILURE IS SOMEONE WHO FALLS AND DOESN'T
09:24:50AM GET UP.
09:24:51AM SUCCESS IS THE ONE THAT FALLS, GETS UP AND KEEPS ON TRYING.
09:24:55AM LIKE ANY ONE OF US HERE IN THE OFFICE IN THIS POLITICAL
09:24:58AM REALM, WE WIN.
09:25:00AM AND SOMETIMES WE DON'T LOSE, WE JUST DON'T GET ENOUGH VOTES.
09:25:04AM IN THIS CASE YOU HAVE EPITOMIZED THE FUTURE OF THE
09:25:07AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE CITY COUNCIL BY IMPLEMENTING
09:25:10AM YOUR IDEAS AND YOUR SYSTEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO WORK FOR
09:25:13AM GOVERNMENT.
09:25:13AM THAT IS WHAT IT ALL TAKES.
09:25:15AM A DESIRE TO NEVER LOSE BUT TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD.
09:25:18AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, FOR WHAT YOU HAVE
09:25:21AM DONE AND CONTINUE TO DO IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
09:25:23AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:25:24AM >> THANK YOU.
09:25:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONOR --
09:25:28AM [APPLAUSE]
09:25:28AM -- CONOR, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT TALK THE TALK AND WALK THE
09:25:32AM WALK, BUT YOU ARE DOING THE DO.
09:25:34AM YOU HAVE BEEN WITH US.
09:25:35AM YOU HAVE WORKED WITH US.
09:25:36AM IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE KNOWING YOU.
09:25:38AM IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU.
09:25:40AM ALL OF US EXPECT NOTHING BUT THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU ARE
09:25:44AM CAPABLE OF DOING OVER AT THE COUNTY.
09:25:46AM CONOR, COME ON UP WITH COUNCILMAN VIERA AND LET'S GET A
09:25:51AM PICTURE, OKAY?
09:25:53AM [APPLAUSE]
09:26:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2.
09:27:25AM FDOT IS HERE TO GIVE US -- THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
09:27:30AM TRANSMIT THE IS HERE TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.
09:27:33AM >> HOW ARE YOU DOING.
09:27:35AM GOOD MORNING.
09:27:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
09:27:36AM >> JUSTIN HALL, THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION
09:27:40AM DEVELOPMENT, FDOT, DISTRICT 7.
09:27:42AM I GUESS FOLLOWING ON THEME OF OPPORTUNITY, I'M HERE TO TALK
09:27:46AM ABOUT ON BOARD TAMPA BAY AND THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
09:27:49AM THAT D.O.T. IS WORK ON IN PARTNERSHIP WITH HILLSBOROUGH
09:27:52AM COUNTY AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:27:53AM WITH THAT I WILL GET STARTED.
09:27:56AM SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA 6 THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT D.O.T.
09:28:02AM IS TALKING ABOUT.
09:28:02AM F.D.O.T. HAS $6 BILLION IN ACTIVE.
09:28:06AM NOT A TYPO, $6 BILLION IN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION AND THIS
09:28:10AM NUMBER CONTINUES TO GROW.
09:28:11AM HERE YOU WILL SEE SEVERAL OF THE LARGE PROJECTS HIGHLIGHTED
09:28:15AM BUT PLENTY OF OTHER PROJECTS, LOCAL PROJECTS, SIDEWALK
09:28:18AM PROJECTS AND OTHER SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS.
09:28:21AM THE BIG THING HERE IS IT PROVIDES BIG ACCESS TO JOBS IN OUR
09:28:27AM COMMUNITY.
09:28:27AM THIS IS THE PROBLEM.
09:28:28AM EVERYONE HEARS THIS.
09:28:29AM I DON'T THINK WE ARE UNIQUE THAT OUR INDUSTRY NEEDS WORKERS.
09:28:33AM FOR EVERY ONE WORKER THAT WE HAVE THAT ENTERS OUR INDUSTRY,
09:28:37AM FIVE RETIRE.
09:28:38AM SO WHEN WE TALK OF THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF WHAT WE ARE
09:28:41AM PROPOSING WITH OUR PROJECTS, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A LARGE
09:28:45AM WORKFORCE THAT IS NEEDED TO DELIVER ON THIS.
09:28:47AM YOU KNOW, I -- WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND WE HAD A
09:28:51AM LOT OF CONVERSATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:28:53AM AND IT WAS FUNNY THE BIG DISCONNECT WE SAW, WE WEREN'T
09:28:57AM CONNECTING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
09:28:58AM A LOT OF TIME OUR CONTRACTORS WILL COME IN AND BRING IN
09:29:01AM PEOPLE FROM THE OUTSIDE AND A PARADIGM THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
09:29:03AM SHIFT.
09:29:04AM SO THIS IS WHAT WE HEARD FROM OUR CONTRACTORS.
09:29:07AM WE HEARD THAT THEY JUST NEED BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
09:29:11AM THE PREREQUISITES ACTUALLY ARE FAIRLY LOW.
09:29:14AM YOU SEE HERE A PASSIVE DRUG TEST.
09:29:17AM WORK HARD AND COME BACK TOMORROW.
09:29:19AM THE KEY THING NOT HERE AND SOMETHING WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT
09:29:22AM FROM THE COMMUNITY WHICH IS PRIOR RECORD OR OTHER ISSUES AND
09:29:25AM YOU SEE THAT IS NOT A PREREQUISITE.
09:29:28AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SPREAD AS WE HAVE
09:29:30AM CONVERSATION IS THE PREREQUISITES ARE FAIRLY LOW TO ENTER
09:29:35AM THIS INDUSTRY, BUT WITH HIGH STARTING WAGES AND HIGH
09:29:37AM OPPORTUNITIES FOR GROWTH.
09:29:38AM WE JUST HAD A MEETING THE OTHER DAY.
09:29:41AM ONE OF OUR CONTRACTORS -- ACTUALLY, THEY ARE WORKING ON I-275
09:29:47AM IN TAMPA AND HIRE PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO COME TO
09:29:51AM THEIR OFFICE AND SAY I AM INTERESTED IN A JOB.
09:29:53AM ONE OF THE GENTLEMAN THEY JUST HIRED GOT PROMOTED.
09:29:56AM JUST THAT FAST, YOU CAN ENTER INTO THE INDUSTRY AND BEGIN TO
09:30:00AM GET PROMOTED.
09:30:01AM SO ALONG WITH THAT, WE NEED GOOD, QUALITY SUBCONTRACTORS.
09:30:06AM BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY ARE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO
09:30:08AM WORK WITH THE D.O.T.
09:30:10AM WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO OPEN THE DOOR AND MAKE IT EASIER.
09:30:13AM SO WHERE OPPORTUNITY MEETS NEED.
09:30:16AM I DON'T THINK I AM TELLING YOU GUYS ANYTHING THAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
09:30:18AM THIS IS ACTUALLY -- WE AGREE CITY OF TAMPA OF THE DISTRESSED
09:30:22AM AND AT-RISK COMMUNITIES.
09:30:24AM YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL HIGHLIGHTED, AND YOU WILL
09:30:27AM SEE THIS IS -- IF I HAVE A MAP OVERLAY TO SHOW YOU WHERE THE
09:30:31AM PROJECTS WERE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS, A LOT OF THE
09:30:35AM PROJECTS ALIGN WITH THE COMMUNITIES.
09:30:40AM WHAT IS ON BOARD TAMPA BAY.
09:30:42AM A NEW BRAND OR FANCY SLOGAN OR SOMETHING REAL.
09:30:45AM WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD A LARGE AND CONTINUOUS PIPELINE OF
09:30:49AM LOCAL LABOR.
09:30:49AM MULTIFACETED THROUGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
09:30:52AM A LOT OF LOCAL PARTNERS THAT HELP US OUT MORE THAN I CAN
09:30:56AM NAME IN THE TIME I HAVE HERE, AND WE ARE PARTNERING WITH THE
09:30:58AM CITY AND THE COUNTY, WHO HAVE BEEN A REALLY BIG HELP.
09:31:01AM I AM GRATEFUL TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR THAT SO FIRST STEP,
09:31:07AM WE HAVE A PROGRAM WEB SITE.
09:31:09AM OUR JOB IS TO CONNECT THE DOTS.
09:31:11AM WE HAVE JOB SEEKERS, CONTRACTORS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS
09:31:15AM BRINGING EVERYBODY TOGETHER CREATING A EASY POINT OF ENTRY
09:31:19AM TO REGISTER, SIGN UP FOR JOBS, REALTIME UPDATES AND
09:31:23AM NOTIFICATIONS.
09:31:24AM NOT ONLY A TOOL FOR THE JOB SEEKER BUT FOR THE CONTRACTORS.
09:31:27AM A LOT OF OUR CONTRACTORS UTILIZE NATIONWIDE RECRUITING
09:31:31AM STRATEGIES.
09:31:31AM THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE VERY LOCAL.
09:31:34AM THE SECOND STEP IS THE JOB FAIR AND BUSINESS EXPO COMING UP
09:31:40AM ON THE 21st AT JULIAN B. LANE RIVERFRONT CENTER.
09:31:45AM A COMBINED EFFORT OF US, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND WE HAVE
09:31:48AM OVER 20 CONTRACTORS SIGN UP.
09:31:50AM WE HAVE COMMUNITY PARTNERS MORE THAN I CAN NAME WHO HAVE
09:31:54AM SIGNED UP.
09:31:54AM AND WE HAD HUNDREDS OF INTERESTED JOB SEEKERS WHO HAVE
09:31:58AM SIGNED UP.
09:31:58AM AND WITH THAT, I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND LEAVE YOU
09:32:05AM WITH A SAFETY MINUTE.
09:32:07AM WE SAY DRIVE TIME IS YOU TIME.
09:32:10AM TAKE IT EASY.
09:32:11AM DON'T GET STRESSED OUT BEHIND THE WHEEL AND EVERYBODY WILL
09:32:13AM DRIVE SAFER AND GET HOME TOMORROW IF WE DO SO.
09:32:17AM I WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
09:32:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:32:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE TYPES OF JOBS.
09:32:23AM DO YOU HAVE A FEW EXAMPLES THAT YOU CAN SHARE OF THE ACTUAL
09:32:27AM JOBS THAT ARE AVAILABLE?
09:32:29AM >> YES.
09:32:29AM SO IT IS VERY WIDE RANGES.
09:32:31AM EVERYTHING FROM ENTRY-LEVEL LABOR, ALL THE WAY TO SKILLED
09:32:36AM TRADES, WELDERS, WOOD AND FORM WORK, CONCRETE WORK, CONCRETE
09:32:41AM FINISHING, ELECTRICAL WORK.
09:32:43AM YOU NAME IT.
09:32:44AM AND AT THE JOB FAIR, WE ARE GOING TO SHOW SEVERAL CAREER
09:32:48AM PATHS AND DISCUSS WHERE YOU CAN GO IN YOUR CAREER BASED ON
09:32:51AM WHERE YOU ARE NOW ENTERING THE INDUSTRY.
09:32:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AS A FOLLOW-UP TO THAT, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
09:32:59AM WE HAVE AN APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE THAT I KNOW TECHNICALLY
09:33:03AM YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO USE, BUT DO YOU DO APPRENTICESHIP
09:33:06AM FOR -- I MEAN, ALL OF THESE ARE -- ARE JOBS THAT COULD LEAD
09:33:12AM TO JOURNEYMEN POSITIONS.
09:33:14AM WHAT KIND OF THINGS DO YOU TO DO HELP THESE EMPLOYEES?
09:33:19AM >> SO SEVERAL THINGS.
09:33:20AM SOME D.O.T. DOES, AND SOME WE WORK ON COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND
09:33:25AM WHAT THE CONTRACTORS HAVE.
09:33:27AM THEY HAVE INTERNALLY APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
09:33:29AM THEY GET THEM ENTRY LEVEL, GET THEM IN AND DEVELOP THEM.
09:33:33AM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS CONNECTING
09:33:36AM THE EMPLOYEES WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY RESOURCES, COMMUNITY
09:33:40AM COLLEGES, HCC HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS AND A LOT OF FACTORS
09:33:44AM AND REALLY DEPEND ON WHAT DISCIPLINE THEY ARE IN.
09:33:47AM WE CONNECT THEM WITH APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
09:33:49AM OUR WELDERS, ELECTRICIANS.
09:33:52AM A LOT OF TIME THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL UNION.
09:33:55AM WE ARE NOT UNIQUE IN THAT MATTER.
09:33:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT YOU TO KNOW THERE ARE UNION
09:34:00AM REPRESENTATIVES BEHIND YOU TODAY IF THEY WANT TO WAVE AND
09:34:04AM MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THEM SO IF YOU MIGHT WANT TO TALK TO THEM
09:34:06AM OF WAYS TO PARTNER, BECAUSE THAT IS -- THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE
09:34:10AM TRYING TO DO TOO.
09:34:11AM NOT REINVENTING THE WHEEL.
09:34:13AM AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH THEM TO ENSURE
09:34:17AM THAT IT IS GREAT TO SEE THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING UP TO JOB
09:34:20AM SITES.
09:34:21AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE JOBS FOR THESE FOLKS ARE
09:34:24AM SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN -- A CAREER THEY CAN TAKE WITH THEM
09:34:28AM LIKE YOU SAID.
09:34:29AM LET'S MAKE SURE THAT IT IS NOT JUST FOR THIS PARTICULAR JOB.
09:34:32AM ALSO, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND HANGING AROUND FOR -- IF YOU HAVE
09:34:36AM A LITTLE BIT OF TIME -
09:34:39AM >> I CAN STICK AROUND FOR A LITTLE BIT.
09:34:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, ITEM NUMBER 8, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF
09:34:44AM QUESTIONS.
09:34:44AM I KNOW YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT, BUT I WOULD LOVE
09:34:47AM SOME INPUT, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
09:34:49AM >> I WILL STICK AROUND.
09:34:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.
09:34:53AM IF WE HAVE TO MOVE IT UP, I JUST -- I FORGOT THAT FDOT WAS
09:34:58AM HERE TODAY.
09:35:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
09:35:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STICK AROUND FOR 8, MIGHT AS WELL --.
09:35:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION.
09:35:10AM A MOTION TO MOVE 8 TO --
09:35:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: RIGHT AFTER.
09:35:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: RIGHT AFTER ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES AND RIGHT
09:35:19AM OR BEFORE 21.
09:35:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THAT IS FINE.
09:35:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 28 BY COUNCILWOMAN
09:35:28AM HURTAK.
09:35:28AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:35:30AM MOTION PASSES.
09:35:34AM THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3.
09:35:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CONTINUED IT.
09:35:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO MAY 8, THAT'S CORRECT.
09:35:50AM THANK YOU.
09:35:50AM MAY 18?
09:35:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAS THAT A MOTION?
09:35:57AM WE MADE THAT MOTION EARLIER.
09:35:59AM ITEM NUMBER 3, THAT'S RIGHT.
09:36:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT, AT THIS TIME WE WILL BE TAKING
09:36:08AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:36:09AM ANYONE WISHING TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME, WOULD
09:36:15AM YOU PLEASE FORM A LINE ON MY LET'S, YOUR RIGHT.
09:36:20AM AND, AGAIN, I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE TAKING
09:36:25AM COMMENTS FOR THOSE WHO WISH -- WHO ARE WISHING TO SPEAK TO
09:36:29AM -- WHICH AGENDA ITEM WAS IT?
09:36:32AM THANK YOU.
09:36:32AM AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 18.
09:36:34AM YES, SIR.
09:36:34AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:36:41AM BRIAN NATHAN.
09:36:42AM I AM WITH THE LOCAL 15 AND THE CENTRAL LABOR COUNCIL.
09:36:48AM I WANT TO SPEAK OF THE REPORT THAT DPR WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE
09:36:52AM AND GOT PUSHED OUT.
09:36:53AM WE UNDERSTAND THE HANNA AVENUE PROJECT IS MORE OR LESS DONE
09:36:58AM AS FAR AS THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
09:37:01AM GOING FORWARD, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE A BIT MORE ENGAGEMENT
09:37:06AM AND OVERSIGHT OF WHO THE APPRENTICESHIP WHO IS BEING
09:37:11AM SPONSORED BY, WHO THE SPONSORS ARE, IS IT A FLORIDA
09:37:15AM DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION APPROVED APPRENTICESHIP, THE U.S.
09:37:19AM DEPARTMENT OF LABOR APPRENTICESHIP.
09:37:22AM WE WERE PLAYING CATCH-UP THE ENTIRE TIME AND WOULD LIKE TO
09:37:25AM SEE MORE OVERSIGHT, MORE ENGAGEMENT AND MAKE SURE THIS IS
09:37:29AM DONE RIGHT AND THOROUGHLY THE NEXT TIME SO WE ARE NOT COMING
09:37:34AM BACK EVERY TWO WEEKS TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
09:37:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:37:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:37:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY.
09:37:42AM I THINK YOU WERE CALLED, BUT COUNCILMAN VIERA AND I WERE
09:37:46AM BOTH MAKING SURE THAT THESE WERE FLORIDA --
09:37:50AM >> YES.
09:37:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FLORIDA, NOT NASHVILLE, NOT SOUTH CAROLINA,
09:37:55AM NOT GEORGIA, BUT THESE WERE ALL FLORIDA.
09:37:57AM >> WE APPRECIATE THAT.
09:37:58AM THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, HOWEVER, BOTH STIPULATES
09:38:02AM FLORIDA AND THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, SO THAT IS
09:38:04AM SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE CAN ADDRESS IN THE FUTURE.
09:38:06AM AMEND THE ORDINANCE IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
09:38:08AM WE HAVE A COUPLE OF IDEAS OF WAYS TO TIGHTEN IT UP.
09:38:11AM MAYBE AVOID SOME OF THE ROADBLOCKS WE HIT THIS TIME.
09:38:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST WANTED TO LET YOU AND ALL UNION MEMBERS
09:38:17AM KNOW THAT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE -- EXCUSE ME, THIS
09:38:21AM COUNCIL IS WORKING VERY HARD FOR YOU.
09:38:22AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:38:23AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: JUST A SIDE NOTE, WHEN I HAD MY STAFF
09:38:27AM REPORT, I SPOKE WITH MISS COLINA IN REFERENCE TO IT.
09:38:30AM SHE WAS LIVING A LITTLE TAG AT THE UNION, BUT I SAID YOU
09:38:35AM NEED TO GO AND SET UP A MEETING WITH ALL THE PLAYERS
09:38:38AM INVOLVED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES BEFORE THE REPORT COMES BACK.
09:38:41AM SHE TOLD ME SHE WOULD DO THAT.
09:38:43AM SO SHE IS GOING TO SET UP A MEETING WITH THOSE WHO NEED TO
09:38:47AM BE AT THE TABLE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS.
09:38:49AM >> I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT.
09:38:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:38:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SPOKE WITH CHERYL WHO SAID THOUGHT SHE HAD
09:38:56AM A MEETING YESTERDAY.
09:38:57AM MAYBE NOT.
09:38:58AM >> IF SHE DID HAVE, SHE DIDN'T COMMUNICATE WITH ME.
09:39:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:39:02AM WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE THOSE IDEAS AS WE CREATE LAWS AND
09:39:06AM ORDINANCES.
09:39:07AM IT IS ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO GO BACK TO SEE WHAT IS WORKING,
09:39:10AM WHAT ISN'T WORKING, AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL BRINGING THIS
09:39:13AM TO OUR ATTENTION SO WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY --
09:39:17AM THAT WE CAN UPDATE IT FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
09:39:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
09:39:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:39:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: I BELIEVE WHEN WE PASSED THIS, I MADE A MOTION
09:39:29AM FOR US TO HAVE IT COME BACK IN 18 MONTHS TO SEE SOMETHING ON
09:39:32AM BOTH SIDES.
09:39:33AM I THINK DID.
09:39:34AM I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
09:39:35AM WHEN WE PASSED IT MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO SO TO SEE THAT.
09:39:39AM BUT, YEAH, I MEAN -- CLEARLY ANYBODY WHO IS SUBJECT TO THE
09:39:43AM ORDINANCE NEEDS TO COMPLY WITH 110%.
09:39:46AM AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OF THAT, BUT THAT MAY BE COMING
09:39:49AM BACK TO US. I WILL LOOK AT THAT OR WHOEVER WANTS TO IS FINE.
09:39:52AM >> THANK YOU.
09:39:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:39:54AM SIR?
09:40:02AM SIR?
09:40:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: HE DOESN'T HAVE TO COME BACK.
09:40:06AM BASED ON WHAT HE SAID, IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE GOING TO MAKE
09:40:09AM A MOTION, MR. CHAIR.
09:40:11AM BUT SINCE YOU ALL --
09:40:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS GOING TO WAIT FOR THE REPORT AND THEN
09:40:16AM STATE VERY HIGHLY THAT THESE SHOULD BE STATE-CERTIFIED.
09:40:20AM IF WE NEED TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE, WE SHOULD CHANGE THE
09:40:23AM ORDINANCE.
09:40:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL SUPPORT A MOTION IF YOU WANT TO MAKE
09:40:27AM IT TO BRING IT BACK WITH ANY SUGGESTED TWEAKS.
09:40:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
09:40:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:40:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE -- I WORKED ON THIS ORDINANCE FOR
09:40:36AM NINE MONTHS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
09:40:38AM BEFORE WE BEGIN TO OPEN IT UP, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE SOME
09:40:41AM MEETINGS WITH STAFF, ETC., FOR UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
09:40:46AM I SAY THAT RESPECTFULLY.
09:40:48AM THIS ORDINANCE TOOK PROBABLY NINE MONTHS OF VERSIONS WHERE
09:40:53AM ONE SIDE ULTIMATELY SAID, LOOK, WE DON'T SUPPORT IT AND WE
09:40:57AM WENT FORWARD, ETC.
09:40:58AM BEFORE WE OPEN IT UP -- OR BEGIN TO DISCUSS OPENING IT UP.
09:41:02AM WE OPEN IT UP, WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO IT, RIGHT.
09:41:05AM LET'S FIRST IDENTIFY IF THERE IS A PROBLEM.
09:41:08AM IF THERE IS, BY GOLLY, LET'S DO IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK
09:41:13AM TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM IN MY OPINION BEFORE I GO
09:41:15AM THERE.
09:41:20AM HOW LONG HAVE THE ORDINANCE BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR?
09:41:23AM SIX MONTHS?
09:41:24AM A LITTLE PREMATURE.
09:41:26AM IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE I WOULD LEAD THE WAY OR SUPPORT THAT
09:41:29AM MOTION, ETC.
09:41:30AM BUT I JUST THINK A LITTLE PREMATURE IN MY OPINION.
09:41:33AM JUST MINE.
09:41:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:41:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL HAVE SUPPORT A MOTION TO HAVE FOLKS
09:41:44AM LOOK AT IT AND MAKE SUGGESTIONS.
09:41:46AM THAT PROCESS WOULD INCLUDE TALKING TO EVERYBODY NOT
09:41:54AM PRESCRIBING A PARTICULAR SOLUTION BUT FEEDBACK FROM THE
09:41:57AM COMMUNITY TO MODIFY IT AND HAVE SOME PROCESS TO HEAR IT AND
09:42:02AM BRING IT BACK.
09:42:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.
09:42:04AM AGAIN, I WOULD RATHER HEAR THE REPORT AND COUNCILMAN VIERA,
09:42:08AM LISTEN, DIALOGUE, TALK BEHIND THE SCENES WITH UNION MEMBERS
09:42:11AM AND WITH STAFF, AND AFTER THE REPORT, IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO
09:42:15AM BE DONE, I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION OR
09:42:18AM COUNCILMAN VIERA OR WHOMEVER, BUT IN A DIALOGUE WILL SOLVE
09:42:22AM THINGS.
09:42:22AM IF NOT, WE WILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE IT.
09:42:25AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:42:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY POINT WHERE I ASKED ADRIENNE TO MAKE
09:42:30AM SURE SHE HAD A SIT-DOWN MEETING RATHER THAN THE TELEPHONE
09:42:34AM TAG AND SIT DOWN WITH THE MAJOR PLAYERS AT THE TABLE TO DO
09:42:38AM THAT -- WHAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW AND SHE PROMISED
09:42:42AM ME SHE WOULD DO THAT.
09:42:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:42:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY UNDERSTANDING SHE ASKED FOR US NOT TO HEAR
09:42:49AM IT TODAY.
09:42:49AM SHE ASKED FOR IT TO BE CONTINUED.
09:42:51AM YES, I AM 100% FOR HAVING THAT CONVERSATION, BUT ALSO NOT
09:42:55AM FORGETTING IT.
09:42:56AM THAT IS THE BIGGER PROBLEM.
09:42:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
09:43:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE ARE NOT GOING TO FORGET IT, THAT'S ALL
09:43:08AM I AM GOING TO SAY.
09:43:09AM >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS CHASE HARRISON, AND I BROUGHT A
09:43:12AM DOCUMENT I PUT ON THE PROJECTOR.
09:43:14AM I AM NOT SURE WHO CAN SHOW THAT.
09:43:16AM OKAY.
09:43:18AM LAST WEEK, I ATTENDED A COMMUNITY MEETING AND SEVERAL
09:43:22AM MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD THERE.
09:43:23AM DURING THE MEETING, IT CAME -- THE CONVERSATION TURNED TO,
09:43:27AM HOW DO WE KEEP PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES IN THE TIME THAT
09:43:30AM DEVELOPERS ARE MOVING IN AND GIVING PEOPLE AND OFFERING
09:43:33AM PAYMENTS FOR PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
09:43:36AM DURING THE PROCESS OF CONVERSATION, ONE COUNCIL PERSON
09:43:40AM MENTIONED THERE IS A PROGRAM CALLED OWNER-OCCUPIED
09:43:42AM REHABILITATION PROGRAM.
09:43:44AM I GOT THE PHONE NUMBER THAT NO ONE KNEW ABOUT.
09:43:47AM NO ONE IN THE CROWD EVER HEARD OF THIS IN THAT AREA OF TOWN
09:43:51AM APPARENTLY.
09:43:51AM SO I'M HERE TODAY TO GET ON RECORD THE NUMBER THAT NO ONE IN
09:43:55AM THE AUDIENCE THAT DAY HAD HEARD OF.
09:43:56AM WE COULDN'T FIND ANYONE 813-274-7940.
09:44:03AM IF SOMEONE IS LOOKING TO HAVE THE CITY HELP THEM TO REHAB
09:44:07AM THEIR HOME FOR AIR CONDITIONING, HEATING, ROOF ISSUES,
09:44:12AM SIDING, A PROGRAM FOR THAT.
09:44:13AM THE WORD HAD A PROBLEM GETTING OUT.
09:44:15AM I MENTIONED WE COULD PUT THAT INFORMATION ON A WATER BILL.
09:44:18AM THE COUNCILMEMBERS WHO WAS THERE TRIED TO DO THAT AND WAS
09:44:23AM TOLD THEY COULDN'T DO THAT.
09:44:23AM SOMETHING AS SIMPLE.
09:44:25AM A PROJECT INJURY HAS THE NUMBER.
09:44:27AM I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TURN THAT ON.
09:44:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SLIDE THAT PIECE OF PAPER UP SO EVERYTHING
09:44:32AM CAN BE SEEN.
09:44:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:44:33AM >> 247-7940.
09:44:36AM A SIMPLE WAY TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT.
09:44:39AM LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS PROGRAM EXISTS.
09:44:41AM WE CAN DO THINGS IN THE FUTURE EVEN WHEN CITY COUNCIL IS
09:44:45AM DISCUSSING THINGS.
09:44:46AM A CRAWLER LIKE THE NEWS.
09:44:48AM I KNOW WE HAVE CLOSED CAPTIONING GOING ON.
09:44:50AM BUT WAYS TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT.
09:44:52AM PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW.
09:44:54AM IF WE ARE TRULY TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE STAY IN THEIR HOUSES,
09:44:58AM PROGRAMS LIKE THIS, THE INFORMATION NEEDS TO BE OUT THERE.
09:45:01AM SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS WHAT I DID.
09:45:03AM ON YOUTUBE FOREVER AND ARCHIVED.
09:45:05AM WITH THAT I WILL YIELD MY TIME.
09:45:07AM THANK YOU.
09:45:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:45:09AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS, JAMES SHAW FROM WEST TAMPA
09:45:16AM SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 14.
09:45:18AM IN 2017, OFFICER BRIAN KREMLER RAN A MAN OVER WITH A SQUAD
09:45:25AM CAR AND KILLED HIM.
09:45:26AM LAWSUIT BETWEEN THE HONORABLE MARY SCRIVEN WHO DENIED
09:45:31AM QUALIFIED IMMUNITY THAT RECORD EVIDENCE THAT HE TRIED IT ON
09:45:35AM PURPOSE.
09:45:35AM YOU KNOW WHO IS DEFENDING THE CITY IN THAT LAWSUIT, THE CITY
09:45:39AM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
09:45:39AM AS YOU ALTHOUGH IN THE SUMMER OF LAST YEAR, THE CITY SETTLED
09:45:43AM A LAWSUIT BROUGHT BY THE ESTATE OF ARTHUR GREEN JR. FOR HIS
09:45:47AM DEATH IN CUSTODY BY TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:45:49AM YOU KNOW WHO DEFENDED THE CITY IN THAT LAWSUIT?
09:45:52AM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
09:45:54AM NOW THEIR JOB, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S MISSION IS TO DEFEND THE
09:45:57AM CITY FROM LIABILITY.
09:45:58AM NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
09:45:59AM I HAVE DEFENDED A FEW DEFENDANTS FROM LIABILITY MYSELF.
09:46:03AM SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO DO IT.
09:46:04AM BUT THE CR B'S MISSION IS DIFFERENT.
09:46:07AM THE CRB'S MISS TO GET TO THE TRUTH AND THAT THE OUTCOME OF
09:46:12AM THE INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION WAS JUST AND THAT MISSION
09:46:15AM IS COUNTER TO THE MISSION OF PROTECTING THE CITY FROM
09:46:19AM LIABILITY.
09:46:19AM HOW CAN THEY GATHER INFORMATION, FOR EXAMPLR, ABOUT
09:46:24AM BRIAN CRAMBLER RUNNING OVER A MAN WITH A CAR AND GATHER THAT
09:46:29AM INFORMATION THAT CAN BE USED AGAINST THE CITY IN PENDING
09:46:31AM LITIGATION.
09:46:31AM THE SAME ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CANNOT DO BOTH THINGS.
09:46:35AM THEY ARE MUTUALLY INCOMPATIBILITY MISSIONS.
09:46:38AM A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
09:46:39AM THEY NEED TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY.
09:46:41AM I LOOKED AT THE LANGUAGE PREPARED FOR -- BY THE CITY
09:46:45AM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD GIVE THE CRB
09:46:49AM AN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY.
09:46:52AM FIRST OF ALL IT SAYS -- I SENT YOU AN E-MAIL EARLIER
09:46:55AM DETAILING EFFORTS TO MISLEAD THE CRB ATTORNEYS OF WHAT THE
09:47:00AM INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY WAS EVEN FOR.
09:47:02AM ATTORNEYS SHOWED UP AT A MEETING IN JUNE AND JUST SNOWED
09:47:05AM THEM AND CONVINCED THEM IT WAS SOMETHING THAT IT WASN'T AND
09:47:08AM NOT THEIR FUNCTION TO DECIDE STRUCTURAL THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:47:10AM IT IS THEIR FUNCTION TO INVESTIGATE THE FACTS OF THE
09:47:15AM INCIDENT AND NOT TO MAKE POLICY DECISIONS.
09:47:17AM THE ORDINANCE AS DRAFTED PROVIDED TO YOU BY THE CITY
09:47:20AM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PROVIDES THAT THE CRB DOESN'T GET THE
09:47:24AM INDEPENDENT UNLESS THE MAJORITY OF CRB, NOT THE MAJORITY OF
09:47:30AM A QUORUM BUT THE WHOLE CRB TO REQUEST IT.
09:47:33AM THERE HAVE BEEN EFFORTS TO MISLEAD THEM TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS
09:47:36AM ABOUT.
09:47:37AM THEY NEED TO GET OVER THE HURDLE AND POSITIONS THE CITY
09:47:40AM ATTORNEY TO SOLICIT THE APPLICATIONS, TO SCREEN OUT THE ONES
09:47:43AM IN IS IT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S JUDGMENT IS NOT QUALIFIED.
09:47:46AM CONSULT THE CRB WHICH ONE THEY WANT AND THE CITY ATTORNEY
09:47:51AM MAKES THE FINAL DECISION.
09:47:52AM CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OKAY BUT
09:47:56AM INDEPENDENT.
09:47:57AM IT IS NOT INDEPENDENT.
09:47:58AM IF YOU WANT AN INDEPENDENT COUNSEL, YOU NEED TO HAVE AN
09:48:02AM INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
09:48:03AM ASK YOU FOR THE MOTION TO GIVE THE CRB AN INDEPENDENT
09:48:07AM ATTORNEY AND TRULY INDEPENDENT.
09:48:08AM USE THE LANGUAGE DIFFERENT THAN THE LANGUAGE PROVIDED.
09:48:12AM I HAVE TO GO TO WORK.
09:48:13AM I WILL BE WATCHING AND THE VOTERS ARE WATCHING.
09:48:17AM THANK YOU.
09:48:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
09:48:21AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
09:48:27AM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF ALL
09:48:29AM COMMENTS MADE BY MR. SHAW.
09:48:32AM BUT WHAT MOVED ME THIS MORNING WAS THE PRESENTATION OF THE
09:48:40AM PRESENTATION OF THAT YOUNG MAN.
09:48:42AM I THOUGHT SO WELCOMING.
09:48:44AM SO SUPPORTED BY EVEN HIS NEXT VENTURE IN LIFE.
09:48:48AM AND FOR THE LAST 20-PLUS SOME YEARS THAT I HAVE BEEN COMING
09:48:52AM DOWN HERE, I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ARTICULATE THAT SAME
09:48:55AM THOUGHT THAT IF JUST GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY.
09:49:01AM YOUNG PEOPLE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY THOSE AS BEING DESCRIBED
09:49:05AM THE WORST OF THE WORST, WE WOULD SEE A COMPLETE TURN AROUND.
09:49:08AM WE HAVE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF JOB FAIRS BUT THERE ARE HURDLES
09:49:13AM THAT KEEP PEOPLE ALREADY IN THE BEGINNING OF THEIR ADULTHOOD
09:49:16AM THAT FIND IT EVEN DIFFICULT TO JUMP INTO SOME OF THOSE SESS
09:49:22AM BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY RENT AND MANY TAINE A STANDARD
09:49:26AM OF LIFE THAT MANY OF THESE YOUNG BLACK MEN HAVE BEEN
09:49:31AM CRIPPLED BACK OUT OF.
09:49:34AM AND I WANT TO SAY THAT OF THE YOUNG MAN THIS MORNING.
09:49:37AM AND I WANT TO SAY THIS TO YOU AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATION
09:49:41AM AND PACED ON A QUOTE BY A MAN THAT I RESPECT IN THE HEART OF
09:49:46AM BLACK HISTORY AND SAYS, I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAY BECAUSE
09:49:51AM I SEE WHAT YOU DO.
09:49:54AM THE NUMBER OF YEARS THAT WE TALK ABOUT HOW DO WE GET
09:49:57AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY FROM 2020 ONLY LESS THAN
09:50:03AM 30 PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE THOSE
09:50:06AM PURCHASES.
09:50:06AM IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE YOU BRING,
09:50:12AM DEVELOPERS KNOW HOW IT IS OUT OF THE REACH OF WORKING-CLASS
09:50:16AM PEOPLE.
09:50:16AM WE CAN'T GET THERE.
09:50:17AM WE HAVE ASKED FOR SIMILAR PROGRAMS TO HELP OUR YOUNG PEOPLE
09:50:20AM HAVE MENTORS, RESISTANCE.
09:50:24AM WE DON'T WANT OUR CHILDREN PICKING UP PAPER.
09:50:27AM WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO SEE A BRIGHTER FUTURE FOR
09:50:30AM THEMSELVES.
09:50:32AM I REMEMBER COMING DOWN HERE AND THERE WAS NORTH AMERICAN
09:50:35AM WOMAN, WHITE WOMAN, BEAUTIFUL, RECEIVED -- I BELIEVE HER
09:50:39AM NAME WAS MARGARET VIZZI, STEPPED TO THIS PODIUM AND THE
09:50:44AM SOUND OF HER VOICE WOULD GARNISH THE ATTENTION OF ALL OF THE
09:50:48AM COUNCIL PEOPLE.
09:50:49AM AND IMMEDIATELY THINGS WERE BEING DONE.
09:50:52AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE TO SCREAM, HOLLER, CUSS, SHOUT OR
09:50:55AM WHAT.
09:50:55AM BUT JUST HIRING BLACK FOLKS AND CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS DO NOT
09:51:02AM SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
09:51:05AM WE NEED TO SEE SOME SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.
09:51:08AM WE NEED TO SEE A REAL DEDICATION TO THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU
09:51:12AM SIGNED IN 2020 THAT IF YOU UNDERSTOOD THE REAL DISPARITIES
09:51:15AM OF WHAT SLAVERY AND THE CONTINUAL HARM THAT YOU DIDN'T DO,
09:51:21AM BUT IT WAS DONE TO BLACK PEOPLE, WE WOULD HAVE A REGRESSIVE
09:51:25AM AND PRO PROGRESSIVE MOVE TOWARD MAKING THINGS BETTER.
09:51:29AM THANK YOU.
09:51:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:51:31AM >> HELLO, DAVID JOHNS.
09:51:41AM I AM SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 14, GIVEN THE CRB INDEPENDENT
09:51:49AM COUNSEL.
09:51:49AM IN FAVOR OF A ITEM WITH SOME EDITS.
09:51:52AM I ALSO READ THE MEMO PUT FORTH BY THE CITY ATTORNEY AND
09:51:56AM PARTS OF IT DIDN'T READ LIKE WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY BEING
09:51:59AM PROPOSED FOR THE MOTION ON THE 16th OF JANUARY.
09:52:03AM I GUESS SOME OF THE BIGGER PARTS THAT WERE -- KIND OF CAUSES
09:52:08AM OF CONCERN FOR ME WAS 6-D, ON THE CITY ATTORNEY'S ABILITY TO
09:52:13AM SELECT -- OR PRESCREEN WHO WAS AVAILABLE FOR COUNSEL.
09:52:19AM LIKE JAMES SHAW SAID EARLIER, WE ARE CURRENTLY SEEING THAT
09:52:23AM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS DEFENDING THE POLICE IN A CASE
09:52:26AM OF POLICE BRUTALITY FROM 2017 THAT RESULTED IN A MAN'S
09:52:30AM DEATH.
09:52:30AM AND I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT CAN GO, LIKE, WITHOUT
09:52:34AM ANY TYPE OF -- THERE ARE SOME TYPE OF BIAS THERE.
09:52:39AM THE SECOND PART THAT CAUSED ISSUE IS 6-H INVOLVING THE
09:52:47AM REMOVAL OF AN ATTORNEY THAT THE CRB NEEDS MAJORITY VOTE
09:52:50AM WHICH I TOTALLY AGREE WITH, BUT NEEDING COUNSEL TO ALSO GET
09:52:55AM A MAJORITY VOTE ON THAT.
09:52:56AM IF THEY WANT TO MAKE IT INDEPENDENT, THEY NEED TO MAKE THE
09:52:59AM DECISIONS ON THEIR OWN FOR NOW AND THE FUTURE OF THE CRB,
09:53:06AM WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.
09:53:07AM I DO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
09:53:08AM I THINK IT NEEDS EDITS TO MAKE IT INDEPENDENT.
09:53:13AM THANK YOU.
09:53:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:53:16AM >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
09:53:23AM TAYLOR COOK.
09:53:24AM I LIVE IN NORTH TAMPA AND SPEAKING ON INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
09:53:27AM I AGREE WITH WHAT DAVID JUST SAID.
09:53:29AM IF WE WANT TO MAKE AN ININDEPENDENT COUNSEL, IT NEEDS TO BE
09:53:34AM INDEPENDENT.
09:53:34AM HOWEVER THAT WAS WRITTEN AN THOSE POINTS WERE WRITTEN, THEY
09:53:40AM KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING WHEN THEY WROTE THEM.
09:53:43AM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY BECAUSE I AM A MEMBER OF TAMPA BAY
09:53:46AM COMMUNITY ACTION COMMITTEE.
09:53:47AM WE MET WITH MOSTLY ALL OF YOU AND HEARD DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS
09:53:53AM THAT REALLY DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE LIKE HOW THE COST.
09:53:59AM OR ARGUMENT THAT IF YOU ARE GOING THROUGH THE CRB THEY CAN
09:54:03AM REQUEST AN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY AT ANY TIME.
09:54:05AM IF THEY CAN DO THAT, WHY NOT HAVE IT INDEPENDENT ALL THE
09:54:08AM TIME, YOU KNOW.
09:54:09AM AND WHY PUT IT AT THE REQUEST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
09:54:13AM APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AND APPOINTED BY YOU ALL.
09:54:17AM WHY WOULD THEY REQUEST INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
09:54:19AM WE WANT INDEPENDENT COUNSEL ALL THE TIME, NOT JUST AT A
09:54:22AM REQUEST.
09:54:23AM AND WE WANT INDEPENDENT COUNSEL BECAUSE WE WANT MORE
09:54:26AM TRANSPARENCY WITH THE POLICE.
09:54:28AM YOU HEAR US TALKING OF INDEPENDENT COUNSEL AND MORE
09:54:32AM TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE POLICE EVERY OTHER
09:54:36AM WEEK.
09:54:36AM WE SAID NAMELESS CASES OF POLICE CRIMES IN TAMPA AND
09:54:42AM BY TPD.
09:54:43AM AND I THINK THOSE CRIMES WARRANT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY IN
09:54:47AM TAMPA SO THANK YOU.
09:54:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:54:51AM >> GOOD MORNING, I AM A MEMBER OF TAMPA BAY ACTION COMMUNITY
09:55:01AM AND I LIVE IN TOWN AND COUNTRY AND I'M HERE -- I'M HERE TO
09:55:05AM SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL FOR THE CRB.
09:55:10AM YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THE HISTORY OF TPD HERE IN TAMPA, YOU
09:55:15AM KNOW, HAVING, YOU KNOW, CASE AFTER CASE OF -- OF BRUTALITY
09:55:19AM AND CRIMES THAT THEY SUBMIT AGAINST PEOPLE GOING COMPLETELY
09:55:24AM UNCHECKED.
09:55:24AM THE CRB SHOULD HAVE THE POWER TO AT LEAST INVESTIGATE AND
09:55:29AM PUBLICIZE AND INCREASE TRANSPARENCY.
09:55:33AM BUT WE CAN'T GET THAT IF THEY HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
09:55:37AM THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, CARRY OUT THEIR JOBS COMPLETELY
09:55:40AM WITHOUT AN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY.
09:55:42AM SO MUCH ONCE AGAIN, I URGE TO YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS
09:55:47AM ORDINANCE WITH THE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL WITH THE CRB.
09:55:51AM THANK YOU.
09:55:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:55:52AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:55:58AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
09:56:01AM I LISTEN TO EVERYONE THAT COMES UP.
09:56:05AM YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE.
09:56:07AM EVERYBODY IS EXPLAINING THAT WE NEED THIS.
09:56:11AM THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR IT.
09:56:13AM RIGHT.
09:56:13AM CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
09:56:15AM LEGAL ASSISTANT FOR REGIONAL COUNSEL.
09:56:19AM PUBLIC DEFENDER OFFICE.
09:56:21AM THERE IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
09:56:22AM PUBLIC DEFENDER COULDN'T REPRESENT EVERYONE.
09:56:25AM SO THEY SENT PEOPLE TO REGIONAL COUNSEL.
09:56:28AM CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
09:56:29AM ONE PLUS ONE ALWAYS EQUALS TWO, EVEN IN THE NEW WAY THAT
09:56:33AM THEY TEACH KIDS HYPOTHETICALLY HOW TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO
09:56:37AM IT.
09:56:37AM IT ALWAYS EQUALS TWO, RIGHT.
09:56:40AM IT BAFFLES ME EACH AND EVERY TIME.
09:56:45AM IT REALLY DOES.
09:56:46AM I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE IT IS THE OKEY DOKE.
09:56:49AM I FEEL LIKE IT IS THE JEDDI MIND TRICK.
09:56:52AM THINGS ARE NOT HOW IT SEEMS.
09:56:55AM IF THE PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT, THIS
09:57:01AM IS WHAT THEY WANT, RIGHT.
09:57:03AM AND THIS -- AND REHASHING THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN STILL
09:57:08AM DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
09:57:09AM BUT THE CAUSE OF IT, IN MY MIND, IS THE CHANGING OF YOUR
09:57:16AM VOTES.
09:57:16AM YOU ARE NOT STANDING TALL AND STANDING FIRM WHEN YOU MAKE A
09:57:21AM DECISION.
09:57:21AM THE IDEA THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO COME AND CHANGE YOUR VOT
09:57:28AM WHEN THE PEOPLE HAVE COME AND SPOKEN TO YOU STILL BAFFLES
09:57:34AM ME.
09:57:34AM AND I ALWAYS SAID THAT.
09:57:36AM I HAD IT HAPPEN TO ME.
09:57:38AM UNANIMOUS VOTES AND YOU WAFFLE AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR VOTE
09:57:46AM WITH NO EXPLANATION.
09:57:48AM TO THE PEOPLE THAT YOU AGREE YOU ARE GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
09:57:51AM SOME IT MAKES NO SENSE.
09:57:55AM WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
09:57:57AM ONE PLUS ONE ALWAYS EQUALS TWO.
09:58:01AM WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
09:58:04AM AND JUST STAND BY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, RIGHT.
09:58:08AM STAND BY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
09:58:09AM STAND BY WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.
09:58:11AM BECAUSE THEY ARE -- EVERYBODY IS UP FOR ELECTION.
09:58:14AM EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU.
09:58:16AM DON'T BE ON THE -- ON THE ELECTION TRAIL, THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL
09:58:22AM SAYING ONE THING AND COMING AND VOTING A TOTALLY DIFFERENT
09:58:25AM WAY LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN.
09:58:27AM WE NEED AN INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
09:58:29AM THANK YOU.
09:58:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:58:30AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:58:41AM BOB MARLEY SAID IT.
09:58:44AM GET UP.
09:58:44AM STAND UP.
09:58:45AM MARCUS GARVEY.
09:58:47AM MALCOLM X.
09:58:50AM MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. TRIED TO SAY IT.
09:58:52AM KWAME SAID IT.
09:58:55AM SOME OF THE OTHER NAMES.
09:58:56AM FRED HAMPTON.
09:58:57AM HUEY NEWTON SAID IT.
09:59:00AM SOME OF THE NAMES YOU HAVEN'T HEARD OF.
09:59:01AM QUEEN MOTHER MORRIS.
09:59:03AM WE AFRICAN PEOPLE STOP BEGGING.
09:59:06AM WHAT PEOPLE COME OUT HERE DOING WEEK AFTER WEEK.
09:59:08AM BEGGING.
09:59:09AM BEGGING WHITE FOLKS.
09:59:10AM BEGGING.
09:59:11AM THAT HAS TO STOP.
09:59:12AM WE HAVE TO STAND UP.
09:59:13AM GET UP.
09:59:13AM GET UP.
09:59:15AM STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS.
09:59:16AM WE DON'T HAVE TO BEG.
09:59:17AM WE DON'T INTO HEAD NO DAMN POLICE BOARD.
09:59:20AM DON'T NEED IT.
09:59:20AM DON'T NEED REVIEW BOARD OR CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD.
09:59:24AM THEY DON'T NEED IT
09:59:25AM THEY DON'T NEED CONFLICT.
09:59:30AM WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL DO GET AN ATTORNEY TO REPRESENT THEIR
09:59:33AM INTEREST, NOW REPRESENT THEIR INTEREST.
09:59:35AM ZELNICK AND ALL THE OTHER REPRESENT THEIR INTEREST.
09:59:40AM BLACK PEOPLE STAND UP AND STOP BEGGING.
09:59:43AM GO TO 22nd AND MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. HOW I AM LIVING AS AN
09:59:46AM EXAMPLE OF AFRICAN PEOPLE AND DIDN'T HAVE TO BEG FOR
09:59:51AM NOTHING.
09:59:51AM BEATEN BY STINKING POLICE OFFICERS.
09:59:53AM CHOKED OUT BY THEM.
09:59:54AM RAN OVER BY THEM.
09:59:56AM ALL THIS OTHER KIND OF STUFF.
09:59:57AM STILL STANDING UP.
09:59:59AM STANDING UP STRONG, OKAY.
10:00:01AM SO BEGGING WHITE PEOPLE HAVE REDUCED ALL AFRICANS TO BEGGING
10:00:05AM OR MOST AFRICANS TO BEGGARS.
10:00:08AM IF YOU COME INTO CONTACT WITH 100 AFRICANS, 99.9% WILL BE
10:00:14AM BEGGARS.
10:00:14AM YOU WILL HAVE TO MEET 1,000 AFRICANS BEFORE YOU COME IN
10:00:18AM CONTACT WITH ONE GENUINE NONBEGGING AFRICAN.
10:00:21AM WHITE PEOPLE ARE SO FAR REMOVED FROM REALITY THAT THEY
10:00:26AM BELIEVE OUR CIVILIZATION BEGAN ON IF THE COTTON FOUNDATION.
10:00:30AM BEGGING FOR SPEED HUMPS, ROUNDABOUTS, BEG ARE, BEGGING, WE
10:00:37AM ARE BEGGING FOR AN ATTORNEY FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
10:00:40AM I DON'T CARE IF GAVE THE BLACK PEOPLE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:00:44AM ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE.
10:00:45AM WE WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
10:00:47AM WE ARE NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH.
10:00:48AM WITHER NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH.
10:00:50AM THEY ARE KICKING OUR CHILDREN OUT OF SCHOOL.
10:00:51AM THEY HAVE BEEN KICKING US OUT OF SCHOOL.
10:00:53AM EXPULSION RATES ARE WAY UP THERE.
10:00:59AM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
10:01:01AM PEOPLE FEAR THE POLICE VIOLENCE.
10:01:04AM IF THE WHOLE POLICE FORCE WAS BLACK, WE WILL SEE POLICE
10:01:08AM VIOLENCE.
10:01:08AM HAPPENING IN TENNESSEE, KENTUCKY AND NORTH CAROLINA.
10:01:11AM OKAY.
10:01:12AM WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AS AFRICAN PEOPLE IS STAND UP AND RESIST
10:01:15AM TYRANNY.
10:01:16AM STAND UP AND RESIST CAPITALISM.
10:01:20AM DEMAND REPARATIONS THAT IS OWED TO US.
10:01:22AM DEMAND 26% OF THE CITY'S POPULATION.
10:01:25AM WE ARE 26% OF THIS POPULATION.
10:01:28AM WE NEED 26% OF THIS BUDGET.
10:01:29AM WE DON'T NEED THE HAND-OUT PROGRAMS.
10:01:33AM BLACK PEOPLE HAVE TO STAND UP AND HAVE PRIDE.
10:01:35AM PRIDE.WHAT WE DO AND NOT LET THE WHITE PEOPLE TRICK US AND
10:01:39AM FOOL US EVERY DAY AND END UP WITH CRUMBS AND NOTHING.
10:01:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:01:44AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:02:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
10:02:02AM >> I HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS THAT I WISH TO HAVE EACH OF YOU --
10:02:07AM I DON'T KNOW HOW TO -- OH, THANK YOU.
10:02:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BUT FOR THE RECORD,
10:02:14AM GIVE US YOUR NAME.
10:02:15AM >> THANK YOU.
10:02:17AM Y'ALL HAVE TO EXCUSE ME I AM OLD SO I MOVE SLOW.
10:02:28AM GOOD MORNING.
10:02:29AM MY NAME IS DEE WILKINS.
10:02:32AM AND I AM THE SENIOR EDITOR AND MANAGING OFFICER OF IMPACT
10:02:41AM BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS MAGAZINE.
10:02:43AM I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN REGARDS TO A -- IF YOU READ THE
10:02:55AM LETTER, IT GIVES YOU THE INFORMATION BASICALLY.
10:02:57AM BUT I'M HERE BECAUSE I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED, DISMAYED,
10:03:03AM WHATEVER IN REGARDS TO A -- ON THE BACK, YOU WILL SEE A COPE
10:03:09AM OF A FLIER THAT I HAD CREATED FOR THE WONDERFUL EVENT WE HAD
10:03:21AM LAST NIGHT AT THE FAIR OAKS -- WELL, IT WAS HELD AT
10:03:25AM MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
10:03:25AM AND IT WAS WITH REGARDS TO THE FAIR OAKS AND -- YOU KNOW,
10:03:33AM THEY ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A SENIOR CENTER AND ONE FOR THE
10:03:37AM YOUTH.
10:03:37AM AND SO, WE -- WE WANTED TO LET THE PEOPLE KNOW -- THAT'S
10:03:42AM WHAT I DO, LET THE PEOPLE KNOW -- ABOUT THE EVENT AND I WAS
10:03:46AM SO EXCITED THAT I CREATED THIS FLIER.
10:03:51AM AND THE COMPANY THAT HIRED ME, THEY DID NOT SEE IT.
10:03:54AM SOMEHOW IT SEEMS AS THOUGH I DID TAG QUITE A FEW OF YOU, I
10:03:59AM BELIEVE, WHEN I DID THE FLIER, BUT IT SEEMS TO HAVE CAUSED
10:04:04AM SOME CONTROVERSY.
10:04:06AM AND WHEN SOMETHING CALLS CONTROVERSY AGAINST ME AND WHAT I
10:04:10AM DO, I HAVE TO COME AND STAND UP.
10:04:14AM YOU ARE HOLDING UP SOMETHING, MR. CARLSON?
10:04:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS TRYING TO READ THIS.
10:04:19AM >> SORRY.
10:04:20AM YOU KNOW I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES ON SO I CAN'T SEE THAT WELL.
10:04:23AM AT ANY RATE, I WANTED TO EXPLAIN THAT THE SKANSKA AND
10:04:36AM THE KBJ, INC. PR.
10:04:38AM THEY DID NOT KNOW THAT I HAD SENT THIS PARTICULAR FLIER.
10:04:41AM WHEN YOU GET TO BE MY AGE AND YOU ARE TRYING TO DEAL WITH
10:04:45AM TECHNOLOGY THAT COMES FROM THE FUTURE AND I AM TRYING TO
10:04:48AM CATCH UP WITH IT, I WAS TRYING TO SEND IT, BUT INSTEAD, I
10:04:52AM WAS SO EXCITED I POSTED IT AND ALL OF MY FRIENDS AND
10:04:58AM WHATEVER CONTACTS, THEY GOT IT.
10:05:00AM AND I DIDN'T THINK THAT IT WAS A BAD THING BECAUSE IF YOU
10:05:03AM HAD SEEN THE SHOW OF INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE THERE LAST NIGHT,
10:05:07AM WE HAD CLOSE TO 300 PEOPLE.
10:05:09AM I AM SORRY?
10:05:13AM OH, I THOUGHT SOMEONE SAID NO.
10:05:15AM IF MY NUMBERS ARE WRONG, SOMEBODY TELL ME.
10:05:18AM BUT AT ANY RATE, I WANT TO CLEAR UP THE FACT THAT IMPACT DID
10:05:24AM NOT DO ANYTHING.
10:05:24AM AND WOULD NEVER DO ANYTHING TO CAUSE ANY TYPE OF NEGATIVITY
10:05:30AM TO A PROJECT THAT WAS BEING WORKED ON SO HARD.
10:05:33AM ESPECIALLY WHERE I GREW UP IN FAIR OAKS.
10:05:38AM WORKED FOR DAVID BARKSDALE AS A -- YOU KNOW, HEAD OF
10:05:42AM RECREATION PERSON.
10:05:43AM AND SO I JUST WAS VERY UPSET THAT THIS OCCURRED.
10:05:48AM AND THAT IT AFFECTED ANY OF YOU.
10:05:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DEE.
10:05:57AM >> YES, SIR.
10:05:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF YOU NEED 30 SECONDS MORE, I WILL LET YOU
10:06:01AM FINISH IN 30 SECONDS MORE.
10:06:02AM >> I WANT TO SAY THEY HAVE DONE SUCH AN AWESOME JOB TRYING
10:06:06AM TO BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
10:06:08AM WE ALWAYS SAY THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:06:12AM AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T COME OUT TO FIND OUT WHAT IS
10:06:15AM GOING ON.
10:06:15AM AND I THINK THAT SKANSKA AND THE COMPANY -- I AM SO NERVOUS.
10:06:21AM I AM SORRY.
10:06:22AM PLUS I HAVE ASTHMA, SO -- OH, LORD.
10:06:25AM BUT ANYWAY, THE COMPANY IS SO -- YOU KNOW, THEY DID SO MUCH.
10:06:30AM THEY HAD FREE DINNER.
10:06:32AM THEY HAD DID ALL THAT THEY COULD TO DO BRING THE PUBLIC OUT.
10:06:35AM AND THAT IS WHAT MY FLIER WAS SAYING.
10:06:38AM WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING ON SATURDAY.
10:06:40AM SO WE ARE TRYING TO REACH THE YOUTH BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT
10:06:44AM IS.
10:06:44AM AS WELL AS THE SENIORS.
10:06:47AM SO IF I -- YOU KNOW, UPSET ANYBODY BECAUSE I AM VERY HURT --
10:06:53AM I REALLY AM.
10:06:54AM I DON'T WANT MY NAME THAT I HAVE WORKED SO HARD FOR AND MY
10:06:58AM COMPANY TO BE THOUGHT OF IN A NEGATIVE WAY.
10:07:01AM AND I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT SKANSKA AND THE KIM JACKSON FIRM
10:07:07AM AFFECTED BY IT.
10:07:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DEE, WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE A GOOD WOMAN.
10:07:11AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:07:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONTROVERSY IS.
10:07:14AM IT WAS A VERY WELL ATTENDED EVENT.
10:07:18AM I WAS THERE.
10:07:18AM >> YES.
10:07:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
10:07:21AM I DON'T KNOW WHO SAID WHAT.
10:07:23AM BUT THE ROOM WAS PACKED.
10:07:26AM >> IT WAS.
10:07:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOOD.
10:07:28AM PEOPLE ANSWERING REQUESTS.
10:07:29AM PEOPLE ASKING QUESTIONS.
10:07:30AM A MICROPHONE BEING PASSED AROUND.
10:07:34AM I DON'T THINK YOU DID ANYTHING WRONG AND THE CUPCAKES WERE
10:07:37AM AWESOME.
10:07:37AM >> AWESOME.
10:07:40AM ALVIN UPCAKES AND BRONSAN FOR THEIR AWESOME FOOD AND SCRUB
10:07:49AM DOWN AND SOMEBODY CLEANED UP TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING
10:07:51AM WAS SANITIZED AND OF COURSE SKANSKA AND KIM JACKSON'S PR
10:07:57AM TERM.
10:07:57AM I DID MY PART.
10:08:00AM I HELPED TO FILL THAT ROOM.
10:08:01AM I FEEL VERY, VERY GOOD ABOUT THAT THAT.
10:08:04AM AND ALL OF YOU KNOW ME.
10:08:06AM YOUR CAMPAIGN BET ABOUT GET US GOING IF YOU DON'T WANT ME
10:08:12AM RUNNING FOR YOUR JOB TOO.
10:08:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DEE, HANG ON ONE SECOND.
10:08:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS DEE, YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.
10:08:18AM I RECEIVED SEVERAL CALLS ABOUT THE EVENT LAST NIGHT.
10:08:21AM AND I WILL TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THAT LATER WHAT THE -- SOME
10:08:24AM OF THE CONCERNS WERE FROM SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND
10:08:27AM I WILL DEAL WITH THOSE PRIVATELY, BUT YOU DID NOTHING WRONG.
10:08:30AM I THINK WHAT -- WHAT WE DIDN'T DO AS A CITY, WE DIDN'T
10:08:35AM MARKET OR LET THE COMPANY SKANSKA KNOW WHAT OUR INTENT.
10:08:42AM THE BUDGET IS NOT CALLED FAIR OAKS.
10:08:45AM THE BUDGET FOR THIS PROJECT IS EAST TAMPA REGIONAL COMPLEX.
10:08:48AM FAIR OAKS IS NOWHERE IN THE BUDGET.
10:08:51AM THAT COMPLEX IS DESIGNED FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY OF EAST
10:08:55AM TAMPA.
10:08:55AM NOT ONE COMMUNITY.
10:08:57AM THAT IS WHY WE HAVE IT AS EAST TAMPA SO ALL COMMUNITIES WILL
10:09:01AM BE ABLE TO PARTAKE IN THE AMENITIES AND THINGS THAT WILL GO
10:09:04AM ON AT THAT PARK.
10:09:05AM SO NO ONE HAD A SILO.
10:09:08AM THAT IS WHY SOME OF THE CONCLUSION WITH SOME OF THE OTHER
10:09:11AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WHY DO WE KEEP SAYING THAT.
10:09:13AM BUT I THINK STAFF AND MISS TRAVIS AND CHIEF BENNETT AND OVER
10:09:18AM ARE NOW ADDRESSING AND MISS WYNN, THE PORTFOLIO DIRECTOR OF
10:09:23AM THAT ARE ADDRESSING THAT TO GET THE RIGHT MARKET OUT.
10:09:27AM THEY MET WITH THE COMPANY AND YOU WILL SEE A DIFFERENT TYPE
10:09:30AM OF MARKETING STRATEGY AND LEARN COME TOGETHER, GEL TOGETHER.
10:09:33AM AND WE WILL HAVE A GREAT PROJECT AND HAVE THE DIRT LIFTED
10:09:37AM UP.
10:09:38AM NOT ABOUT A NAME, BUT THE DIFFICULTY DUG UP SO WE CAN
10:09:41AM ACTUALLY BUILD THE PROJECT.
10:09:43AM >> I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:09:45AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS DEE.
10:09:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:09:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: I SAW SOME CHATTER.
10:09:50AM I DIDN'T READ ALL OF IT.
10:09:52AM BUT I LOOKED AT THIS INVITATION ONLINE.
10:09:54AM IT IS VERY WELL DESIGNED.
10:09:56AM IF YOU DESIGNED IT, IT IS BEAUTIFUL.
10:09:59AM >> THANK YOU.
10:10:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHATEVER IT WAS, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING
10:10:03AM HERE.
10:10:03AM I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE ABOUT IT.
10:10:07AM MAYBE MY COLLEAGUE JUST EXPLAINED IT.
10:10:09AM BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE AND PROTECTING YOUR GOOD NAME
10:10:13AM AND YOUR COLLEAGUES.
10:10:14AM BUT KEEP UP THE GOOD JOB ON THE BEAUTIFUL DESIGN AND GETTING
10:10:19AM PEOPLE OUT TO EVENTS LIKE THAT.
10:10:20AM THANK YOU.
10:10:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DEE.
10:10:23AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:10:24AM I WANTED TO BE THERE LAST NIGHT, BUT MISS PAULA WAS UP FOR
10:10:29AM AN AWARD LAST NIGHT, AND I WANTED TO BE WITH HER, AND I HOPE
10:10:33AM YOU UNDERSTAND.
10:10:34AM >> I REALLY DO.
10:10:35AM IF I CAN SAY IN RESPONSE TO COUNCILMAN GUDES, THE REASON
10:10:38AM THAT I WAS SO -- YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO REACH
10:10:42AM THE YOUTH.
10:10:44AM IN FAIR OAKS IS WHERE IT IS ALL STARTED.
10:10:47AM AND THEN THERE IS THE SENIORS -- SO I MISTAKENLY MAY HAVE
10:10:53AM TRIED TO MERGE AND ADDED THAT.
10:10:56AM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NO ONE -- THAT IT WAS ALL ME.
10:11:00AM IT WAS NOT THE SKANSKA OR THE OTHER -- THE KIMBERLY
10:11:08AM JACKSON PR FIRM.
10:11:09AM THEY HIRED ME TO DO A JOB.
10:11:11AM I DID THE BEST JOB THAT I THOUGHT.
10:11:12AM MY HEART IS IN THAT COMMUNITY.
10:11:14AM BECAUSE AS I SAID, I GRADUATED FROM MIDDLETON, WORKED FOR
10:11:21AM DAVE BARKSDALE AT FAIR OAKS AND I WANTED TO SEE IT GROW.
10:11:24AM I LOOKED AND SAW ALL THOSE PEOPLE AS YOU INDICATED LAST
10:11:28AM NIGHT, I KNOW WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
10:11:30AM I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE WITH ME.
10:11:33AM I -- I AM GOING ON CAMPAIGN --
10:11:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
10:11:38AM I AM QUIETLY LISTENING EVERYTHING YOU SAID AND WHAT HAVE
10:11:42AM BEEN SAID BY VARIOUS COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:11:45AM LET'S SAY SOMETHING WAS WRONG.
10:11:46AM IT TURNED OUT RIGHT BECAUSE 300 PEOPLE SHOWED UP.
10:11:50AM YOU CAN HAVE AN AUDIENCE SOMEWHERE AND NO ONE SHOWS UP.
10:11:54AM IN THIS CASE THE COMMUNITY REACTED TO SOMETHING THAT WAS
10:11:56AM AN ERROR.
10:11:59AM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ERROR AND A MISTAKE.
10:12:02AM ERROR SOMETHING YOU MAKE WHEN YOU ARE TRYING.
10:12:05AM THE MISTAKE YOU DO WHEN YOU ALREADY KNOW IT WILL BE WRONG.
10:12:09AM YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A WRONG.
10:12:12AM IT WAS AN ERROR.
10:12:13AM NOT A MISTAKE.
10:12:14AM 300 PEOPLE THERE.
10:12:16AM >> MAYBE MORE.
10:12:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COULD YOU HAVE A FISH FRY AND THE FISH
10:12:20AM DON'T SHOW UP.
10:12:20AM YOU MADE BE ERROR AND 300 PEOPLE SHOWED UP.
10:12:23AM CONGRATULATIONS TO HAVE 300 PEOPLE SHOW UP AND DO THE RIGHT
10:12:27AM THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
10:12:28AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:12:29AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:12:29AM APPRECIATE IT.
10:12:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DEE, PEOPLE CAN TALK WHEREVER THEY WANT
10:12:34AM TO AND CANNOT TARNISH YOUR GOOD NAME.
10:12:36AM >> I PRAY NOT.
10:12:37AM THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
10:12:38AM PSALM 91.
10:12:39AM Y'ALL KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
10:12:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE
10:12:48AM CHAMBER?
10:12:51AM WE WILL NOW TO GO MISS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:12:55AM MISS POYNOR.
10:12:59AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:13:00AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:13:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
10:13:02AM >> OKAY, GREAT.
10:13:03AM GOOD MORNING, FOLKS.
10:13:04AM MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:13:07AM I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT MANY OF YOU ARE RUNNING ON THE
10:13:11AM POLICE AND SAFETY PLATFORM FOR COUNCIL.
10:13:15AM SO I JUST WANT TO REMIND FOLKS OF THAT.
10:13:20AM LAST YEAR, 26 FIRMS WERE APPROVED BY COUNCIL UP TO $100,000
10:13:27AM WORTH OF LEGAL FEES.
10:13:29AM WE SPENT ON THIS AGENDA, ITEM TEM NUMBER 53 I THINK IT IS
10:13:35AM $100,000 FOR ATTORNEYS FOR FLUEDRA PROCESS.
10:13:39AM $100,000 INVESTIGATING COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR SOMETHING HE WAS
10:13:43AM ACQUITTED OF.
10:13:44AM PEOPLE KEEP FORGETTING THAT.
10:13:47AM HE WAS ACQUITTED OF THOSE THINGS HE WAS INVESTIGATED ON BY A
10:13:52AM JUDGE.
10:13:52AM ANOTHER $25,000 TO INVESTIGATE COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AFTER
10:13:58AM HE LEFT OFFICE.
10:13:59AM WHICH I PERSONALLY THINK WAS A WASTE OF MONEY FOR BOTH
10:14:02AM ITEMS.
10:14:02AM BUT HERE WE ARE JUST BECAUSE THE CRB CAN HIRE LEGAL COUNSEL
10:14:11AM DOESN'T MEAN THEY NECESSARILY WILL.
10:14:14AM BUT THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY.
10:14:16AM I PERSONALLY AM OFFENDED THAT THE MAYOR THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY
10:14:22AM TO SHUT THAT DOWN WITH A VETO.
10:14:24AM I THINK THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO VOTE
10:14:27AM ON THIS.
10:14:27AM THIS SHOULDN'T BE UP TO YOU GUYS TO MAKE THE CHOICE.
10:14:30AM JUST SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:14:32AM AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA DESERVE TO VOTE ON THIS.
10:14:35AM NOW IT IS BACK IN YOUR COURT BECAUSE THE MAYOR DIDN'T WANT
10:14:39AM IT.
10:14:39AM AND, AGAIN, SHE HAS -- SHE HAS -- SHE HAS PUT IN HER
10:14:46AM PERSONAL INFORMATION WITHOUT SHOWING UP.
10:14:48AM AGAIN, I WOULD HIKE FOR HER TO WALK -- WOMAN UP AND WALK
10:14:53AM OVER AND ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL WHEN SHE HAS A PROBLEM WITH
10:14:55AM SOMETHING THEY HAVE DONE RATHER THAN SENDING FOLKS TO DO HER
10:14:58AM BIDDING FOR HER.
10:14:59AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:00AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:15:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:15:03AM MISS CAWTHORN.
10:15:09AM SHE IS NOT LOGGED ON.
10:15:11AM ANYONE ELSE IN COUNCIL WHO WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:15:14AM SEEING NONE, CHIEF.
10:15:16AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, COUNSEL AND PUBLIC,
10:15:28AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:15:30AM UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO MAKE COMMENTS OF THE GASPARILLA NIGHT
10:15:35AM PARADE.
10:15:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THINK OUR CITY EMPLOYEES NEED RECOGNITION.
10:15:38AM IF I HAVE NO PROBLEMS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:15:40AM THANK YOU.
10:15:41AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK THE MOST INTERESTING PART OF
10:15:43AM SATURDAY WAS WHEN MY PHONE STARTED RING BEING THE WEATHER.
10:15:47AM WE ALSO -- THE WEATHER PATTERN COMING IN.
10:15:50AM AND WE HAD TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS FOR THE PARADEGOERS, THE
10:15:55AM SPECTATORS AND, OF COURSE, STAFF IN THE T HROES.
10:15:59AM WE ALL KNOW WE GET RAIN AND LIGHTNING, BUT I HAVE EVACUATED
10:16:03AM OPEN AIR EVENTS MANY TIMES, AND, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO FIND
10:16:07AM SHELTER IN PLACE WITH THE BUSINESSES AND THE WAY IT IS
10:16:10AM CONFIGURED WITH BIKE RACK REQUIRED SOME LAST-MINUTE CALLS
10:16:13AM WITH STAFF AND THE PROMOTERS.
10:16:16AM IT WAS A GOOD CONVERSATION AND LED TO AN ITERATIVE PROCESS TO
10:16:19AM TRY TO GO FORWARD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE KNOWING THAT THERE MAY
10:16:22AM BE SOME REALTIME CANCELLATION OR AT LEAST PAUSING NO
10:16:26AM DIFFERENT THAN BE I COACHED LITTLE LEAGUE AND FOOTBALL.
10:16:29AM YOU HAVE TO STOP EVERYTHING AND START IT AGAIN OR AT LEAST
10:16:34AM MAKE SURE THE ACCESSIBILITY IS IN PLACE TO REMOVE YOURSELF
10:16:38AM FROM THE EVENT.
10:16:39AM DURING THE CALLS THIS WEEK, IT CAME UP WE SHOULD MENTION THE
10:16:43AM APPRECIATION FROM THE PUBLIC.
10:16:45AM THE COMMUNICATION AND ALL STAFF COMING TOGETHER WORKING
10:16:48AM TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THE EVENT WENT ON AS
10:16:51AM SOON AS POSSIBLE UNDER THE CONDITIONS THEY WERE.
10:16:53AM COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND
10:16:55AM PROGRESSING OUR SERVICE TOGETHER.
10:16:58AM WITH THAT, I WILL HAND IT OVER TO MAJOR RICHARD MILLS, WHO
10:17:02AM OVERSEAS THE K-9 UNIT FOR ITEM 21 AND I WILL STAGE THIS
10:17:06AM PHOTO UP HERE FOR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S REQUEST.
10:17:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE REASON I WANTED TO BRING THIS UP IS
10:17:12AM BECAUSE --
10:17:13AM >> CAN I MAKE ONE STATEMENT?
10:17:20AM KUDOS TO ALL OUR CITY STAFF FOR THE GASPARILLA PARADE.
10:17:26AM TOUCH AND GO FOR TWO HOURS AND I HAD SOME POLICE AND
10:17:31AM BICYCLISTS COME UP AND SAY, JOE, ONE CRACK OF THUNDER, ONE
10:17:35AM CRACK OF LIGHTNING IT WILL BE CALLED OFF, BUT I WAS IMPRESS
10:17:38AM BY MOBILITY, SOLID WASTE AND STORMWATER FOR BEING ABLE TO
10:17:42AM CLEAN UP 7th AVENUE WITHIN FOUR HOURS AND REOPENING IT UP.
10:17:45AM TPD AND FIRE RESCUE WERE ALSO EXCELLENT AT MAKING SURE THE
10:17:55AM CROWD WAS TAKEN CARE OF AND DURING THE PROCESS OF THE
10:17:58AM CLEANUP EVERYTHING WENT SMOOTHLY.
10:18:00AM KUDOS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA FAMILY THAT MADE SURE THAT PARADE
10:18:05AM WENT OFF VERY, VERY WELL.
10:18:07AM THANK YOU.
10:18:08AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:18:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:18:10AM I RECEIVED A REQUEST TO PULL THIS ITEM TODAY BECAUSE IT IS
10:18:15AM ALWAYS NICE TO TALK ABOUT THE RETIREMENT OF ALL OF OUR
10:18:20AM WORKERS.
10:18:20AM AND THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL WORKER.
10:18:23AM THIS IS PYRO, ONE OF OUR FURRY FINEST I LIKE TO SAY WHO IS
10:18:30AM RETIRING -- I HAVE TO SAY I HATE THE WORD "DISPOSITION" THAT
10:18:35AM COMES IN HERE.
10:18:36AM DOESN'T SOUND POSITIVE BUT I KNOW HE IS GOING TO A WONDERFUL
10:18:40AM RETIREMENT AND LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING OF IT.
10:18:43AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THE PUBLIC.
10:18:46AM AS CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT SAID, MAJOR MILLS THAT OVERSEES
10:18:53AM THE K-9 UNIT.
10:18:55AM A SEVEN-YEAR-OLD BELGIUM MALINOIS AND RETIRING FROM THE
10:19:03AM TAMPA K-9 UNIT.
10:19:04AM EXPLOSIVES DETECTION DOG.
10:19:07AM A DUAL DEPLOYMENT DOG.
10:19:10AM SINCE K-9 PYRO CAME, HIS PATROL PARTNER HAS TIMOTHY BERGMAN.
10:19:19AM WORK THE EVENING SHIFT AND APPREHENDED NUMEROUS FELONY
10:19:23AM SUSPECTS AND RESPONSIBLE FOR CONDUCTING NUMEROUS EXPLOSIVES
10:19:27AM SWEEPS AT RAYMOND JAMES, AMALIE ARENA AND TROPICANA FIELD
10:19:34AM AND THE GASPARILLA PARADES AND RESPONSIBLE FOR SWEEPING THE
10:19:38AM FLOATS AND THE ROUTES TO MAKE SURE NOTHING IS EXPLOSIVE ON
10:19:41AM THE ROUTES AND KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE AGAIN.
10:19:43AM OVER THE YEARS K-9 PYRO AND DEPUTY BERGMAN HAS A SPECIAL
10:19:51AM BOND.
10:19:51AM WHEN A K-9 DOES RETIRE THAT THE HANDLER HAS THE OPTION TO
10:19:56AM ADOPT.
10:19:57AM BERGMAN THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DONATE PYRO TO HIM FOR
10:20:03AM ADOPTION SO PYRO CAN ENJOY RETIRED LIFE WITH HIS PARTNER.
10:20:09AM THEY HAVE DEVELOPED A VERY, VERY STRONG RELATIONSHIP AS YOU
10:20:12AM CAN SEE IN THE PHOTOGRAPH AND THEY WANT TO CONTINUE THAT
10:20:15AM RELATIONSHIP IN HIS RETIREMENT.
10:20:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALL I ASK THAT THE PHOTO BE SHOWN TO THE
10:20:20AM PUBLIC SO EVERYONE CAN SEE IT.
10:20:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:20:23AM >> WE WILL ALSO BE POSTING THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA ONCE HE
10:20:28AM FORMALLY RETIRES.
10:20:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:20:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:20:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: ONE THING FOR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK THAT YOU MAY
10:20:36AM WANT TO DO.
10:20:36AM MAYBE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, I GAVE WHAT I THINK MAY HAVE
10:20:40AM BEEN THE FIRST CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO AN ANIMAL, TO A
10:20:44AM DOG.
10:20:44AM YOU MAY WANT TO DO IT.
10:20:45AM A WONDERFUL DOG NAMED SHADOW OWNED BY TIM REED WHO IS A
10:20:49AM MARINE AND AFGHANISTAN WAR VETERAN WHO LOST A LEG IN
10:20:54AM AFGHANISTAN.
10:20:54AM AND HE ADOPTED SHADOW WHO WAS A BOMB-SNIFFING DOG IN
10:20:59AM AFGHANISTAN AND SAVED AMERICAN MARINE LIVES IN AFGHANISTAN
10:21:02AM AND SERVICE DOG DAY FIRE STATION 22, I GAVE HIM A
10:21:08AM COMMENDATION AS AN IDEA.
10:21:10AM I THINK IS IT GREAT AS AN IDEA.
10:21:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU KNOW, I AM A HUGE ANIMAL LOVER.
10:21:15AM AND WE HAVE BEEN FOSTERING BEAGLES FOR MANY YEARS.
10:21:19AM WE ARE ON NUMBER 21 RIGHT NOW.
10:21:21AM HER NAME IS JELLY.
10:21:23AM AND SHE IS VERY SPECIAL.
10:21:24AM BUT SO ANIMALS HAVE A SPECIAL PLACE IN MY HEART, ESPECIALLY
10:21:29AM THESE DOGS WHO DO THE WORK.
10:21:31AM SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO HIM AND HIS HANDLER FOR
10:21:37AM ALL THE WORK AND HE SHOULD BE LAUDED JUST LIKE EVERYBODY
10:21:42AM ELSE WHEN THEY RETIRE.
10:21:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS.
10:21:48AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, THIS IS YOUR COMMITTEE.
10:21:51AM DO YOU WANT TO WAIT OR MOVE IT NOW.
10:21:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE IT NOW.
10:21:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
10:21:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
10:21:56AM ANY OBJECTION?
10:21:58AM MOTION PASSES.
10:21:59AM >> HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:22:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:22:05AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5.
10:22:10AM WE MOVED 8 UP.
10:22:14AM MY APOLOGIES AGAIN.
10:22:16AM CM 23-79470.
10:22:21AM >>BRAD BAIRD: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, BRAD BAIRD,
10:22:28AM DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 2.
10:22:31AM WE JUST MOVED THAT UP, RIGHT?
10:22:35AM SO THIS IS AN UPDATE ON THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
10:22:40AM FLOODING RELIEF PROCESS.
10:22:41AM WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE A MONTH AGO AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
10:22:46AM ASKED US TO COME BACK AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
10:22:48AM BEFORE -- I HAVE WITH ME JEFF NELSON, WHO IS PRESIDENT OF
10:22:52AM NELSON CONSTRUCTION TO GIVE A DETAILED UPDATE, BUT BEFORE I
10:22:56AM TURN IT OVER TO JEFF, I DO WANT TO ANNOUNCE WE HAVE A
10:22:59AM COMMUNITY MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY NIGHT AT -- STARTING
10:23:05AM PROMPTLY AT 6 P.M. AT AW HORSE LODGE NUMBER 185 LOCATED 5011
10:23:13AM NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
10:23:14AM AND SO WE INVITE THE COMMUNITY TO COME OUT AND ASK QUESTIONS
10:23:20AM ABOUT THE PROJECT AND WE WILL BE ALL THERE TO ANSWER THOSE
10:23:23AM QUESTIONS.
10:23:23AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:24AM I WANTED TO GET THAT ON THE RECORD.
10:23:26AM WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO JEFF TO PROVIDE A DETAILED
10:23:30AM UPDATE.
10:23:31AM THANK YOU.
10:23:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:23:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
10:23:35AM >> THANK YOU FOR BUMPING US UP ON THE AGENDA.
10:23:37AM I APPRECIATE THAT ESPECIALLY LAST MONTH WHEN WE WERE HERE
10:23:42AM ALL DAY.
10:23:42AM JUST TO BRING EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED.
10:23:44AM BRING THE MAP OF THE JOB SO YOU GUYS CAN FOLLOW WHAT WE ARE
10:23:48AM TALKING.
10:23:48AM SOME PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE.
10:23:49AM JUST TO GENERAL SPEAK, START IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF
10:23:54AM THE PROJECT USING HILLSBOROUGH AND I-275 AS OUR CROSSHAIRS.
10:23:59AM WE STARTED AT THE RIVER COMING FROM RIVERSIDE PARK.
10:24:02AM FROM HERE, WE GOT OUR REVISED DESIGN.
10:24:05AM WE WILL BE GRADING OUR EXPECTATIONS -- DONE WITH THE GRADING
10:24:08AM BY MID-MARCH AND WRAPPED UP AND OUT INSTEAD OF THE HANDRAIL
10:24:13AM ORDERED AND WAITING FOR A DELIVERY DATE FOR THAT.
10:24:16AM CREST -- WE HAD THE FIRST ASPHALT PAVED.
10:24:19AM THE FIRST AREA WHERE WE HAVE RAN A VIDEO DOWN -- AND HAD A
10:24:23AM COUPLE MORE AREAS THAT IT SETTLED DUE TO THE SUITABLE
10:24:26AM MATERIAL.
10:24:26AM TAKEN THOSE OUT.
10:24:28AM PATCH THAT FIRST PART OF ASPHALT.
10:24:31AM WE EXPECT TO BE DONE BY THE FIRST OF MARCH.
10:24:34AM IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER AT HIGHLAND, WE ARE WAITING FOR A
10:24:38AM REVISED STRUCTURE.
10:24:40AM WHEN WE PUT THE ORIGINAL DESIGN STRUCTURE IN, THEY LOOKED
10:24:44AM THE WAY THE ADA HANDICAP LOOKED AROUND AND CAME UP WITH THE
10:24:49AM DRAWING BOARD AND A NEW PLAN AND ORDER THAT STRUCTURE.
10:24:52AM AS SOON AS IS THAT GETS THERE, WE WILL BE DONE COMPLETELY.
10:24:56AM ON FLORIDA AVENUE, SUBMITTED A REVISED DESIGN TO THE D.O.T.
10:25:02AM OF THE SIDEWALKS AND INLETS OF HOW TO MAKE THE DRAINAGE WORK
10:25:05AM AND THE SCOOTERS AND ROLLER BLADERS WALKERS TO GET PAST
10:25:13AM THERE.
10:25:13AM THE BALL IS IN THEIR COURT.
10:25:16AM FRIARSON.
10:25:18AM THE STORM PIPE IS IN.
10:25:19AM INSTALLING THE WATER LINE GETTING THE HOUSES CONNECTED AND
10:25:22AM WE EXPECT TO BE DONE WITH THE CURB AND FIRST BIT OF ASPHALT
10:25:28AM BY FIRST OF APRIL.
10:25:29AM CENTRAL, THE NORTHBOUND LANES ARE COMPLETE WITH THE
10:25:32AM EXCEPTION OF THE CARACAS AREA WHERE PIPES AND REPAIRS TO
10:25:37AM MAKE.
10:25:37AM THE SOUTHBOUND LANES, THE FIRST ASPHALT AND PERMEABLE PAVERS
10:25:42AM AN THAT ROAD BY MARCH 15.
10:25:44AM MOVING ALONG ON THAT.
10:25:46AM ON CARACAS OURSELVES, STILL ON TARGET TO MAKE THOSE PIPE
10:25:51AM REPAIRS AND HAVE THE ROADS BUILT BACK BY EARLY MAY,
10:25:55AM WHICH FOR THIS ENTIRE QUADRANT MEANS THAT OUR
10:26:00AM PLAN IS TO BRING IN THE ASPHALT PAVERS IN MAY AND PAVE AND
10:26:10AM THE ENTIRE JOB IN MAY.
10:26:11AM THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE BEFORE WE DID THE FIRST MOVE IS OF
10:26:14AM DIRT, THAT SHOWED WE WOULD BE OUT BY MID-JULY.
10:26:17AM DESPITE OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND SUITABLE MATERIALS
10:26:21AM AND VANDALISM ON OUR STUFF, WE PUT ENOUGH CREWS ON THERE.
10:26:25AM WE ARE STILL TWO MONTHS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE ON THAT QUADRANT.
10:26:29AM ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOUTH.
10:26:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:26:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS THE AREA THAT MOST OF THE WORK IS
10:26:38AM GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
10:26:40AM WHAT I DID BEFORE THIS IS REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND I
10:26:43AM WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE NOT GOTTEN AS MUCH E-MAILS OR
10:26:50AM PHONE MESSAGES AS I HAVE IN THE PAST AND THINGS ARE
10:26:53AM SMOOTHING ON.
10:26:54AM I HAD AN EMAIL FROM A CONSTITUENT JUST COMPLETELY ANGRY WE
10:27:01AM WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE PAVEMENT DONE BY AUGUST ON CREST
10:27:04AM AND THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED.
10:27:05AM I KNOW THAT THE REASONING FOR WHY.
10:27:08AM AND YOU EXPLAINED THAT YOU ARE EXPECTING TO HAVE CREST DONE
10:27:13AM WITHOUT THAT CORNER AT HIGHLAND -- AT HIGHLANDS -- WHEN DID
10:27:18AM YOU SAY WE EXPECT GET THAT ACTUALLY DONE?
10:27:22AM >> CEST IS PAVED FOR THE FIRST BIT OF ASPHALT.
10:27:25AM BUT WE GOT TO GO BACK AND FIX THE PATCHES WHERE THEY HAVE
10:27:28AM THE SANITARY SEWER.
10:27:29AM IN ORDER TO MAKE A NICE CLEAN PROJECT WITH NOT A BUNCH
10:27:34AM OF SEAMS IN THE ASPHALT.
10:27:36AM THE FINAL COAT OF PAINT.
10:27:37AM WAIT UNTIL ALL THE OTHER WORK IS DONE AND THEN YOU BRING IN
10:27:42AM THE PAVERS.
10:27:42AM THE PLAN IS TO HAVE THE ROAD READY TO GO LIKE I SAID
10:27:45AM BEGINNING OF MAY.
10:27:46AM OUR PLAN IS TO COME AND PAVE THAT ENTIRE THING AND BE OUT OF
10:27:49AM THERE BEFORE THE END OF MAY WRAPPED UP AND THEY WILL NEVER
10:27:53AM SEE US AGAIN -- HOPEFULLY.
10:27:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: DON'T MAKE PROMISES LIKE THAT.
10:27:58AM YOU NEVER KNOW.
10:27:59AM BUT -- AND I HAVE ANOTHER -- ANOTHER -- WHEN TALKING ABOUT
10:28:06AM CARACAS AND IN THAT AREA, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAD TO REDO THE
10:28:12AM PIPE ON THAT STREET.
10:28:12AM AND THERE IS A REQUEST FROM THE -- THE FOLKS THAT LIVE ON
10:28:20AM THAT STREET.
10:28:21AM IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN REPLACE THE CURBS AND THE ROAD
10:28:25AM BASE AS SOON AS THE PROJECT MOVES WEST FROM THE HALLEY.
10:28:29AM >> THAT IS OUR PLAN.
10:28:30AM THE PIPE PAST THE ALLEY.
10:28:32AM NO WAY TO GET IN THERE, WE ARE BLOCKED OFF.
10:28:35AM ONCE WE GET PAST THE ALLEY BRING THE MATERIALS IN.
10:28:38AM THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, WE CAN GET MIND OURSELVES.
10:28:42AM WE CAN'T ACCESS IT THROUGH THE INTERSTATE.
10:28:44AM OUR PLAN IS ONCE WE GET THROUGH THERE TO BUILD BEHIND US.
10:28:48AM ONCE WE GET TO CREST, LOCKING IT UP AND FINISHING UP.
10:28:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FABULOUS.
10:28:52AM THE ONLY THING I MIGHT DO IS KNOCK ON THOSE DOORS AND LET
10:28:56AM FOLKS KNOW THAT IS COMING BECAUSE A HUGE -- THEY WILL BE
10:29:00AM VERY EXCITED.
10:29:02AM MISS FIORE, THAT HER BIG GOAL RIGHT NOW.
10:29:05AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:29:07AM THE REASON I ASKED FDOT TO STAY.
10:29:11AM WHEN WAS THAT DESIGN SENT IN.
10:29:14AM >> ON FLORIDA?
10:29:16AM TWO YEARS AGO.
10:29:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE UPDATED.
10:29:18AM >> I BELIEVE IT WENT IN LAST WEEK.
10:29:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO LAST WEEK.
10:29:20AM I WAS WONDERING IN -- I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I
10:29:24AM WOULD LOVE TO KNOW BECAUSE -- YOU KNOW, I HAVE HEARD -- I
10:29:31AM DID A TOUR OF THE STORMWATER PROJECT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
10:29:36AM AND I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO HAS ALSO DONE ONE.
10:29:39AM AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD IS THAT TWO YEARS AGO, THERE WAS
10:29:42AM A PROCESS.
10:29:43AM AGREED UPON.
10:29:46AM AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN FDOT CHANGED THEIR MINDS.
10:29:51AM EVERYBODY IS MAD AT US BECAUSE THAT ROAD IS TERRIBLE.
10:29:53AM WHILE YOU ARE HERE -- I HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT BECAUSE
10:29:56AM YOU KNEW IT WAS COMING WHEN I ASKED YOU TO STAY FOR THIS.
10:29:58AM SO HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE FOR FDOT TO MAKE THAT -- TO GO
10:30:03AM THROUGH THIS PLAN, APPROVE IT, AND WHEN CAN THE CITIZENS
10:30:08AM EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO DRIVE ON REAL PAVEMENT AGAIN?
10:30:12AM I CAN'T COMMIT TO A DATE BECAUSE I AM NOT REALLY SURE WHERE
10:30:18AM IT STANDS BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE CAN EXPEDITE IT.
10:30:20AM IF I GET BACK TO THE OFFICE I CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT IS MOVED
10:30:25AM FORWARD.
10:30:25AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAD THE CHANGE OF, WHAT HAPPENED IS
10:30:27AM USUALLY WE HAVE NEW INFORMATION OR A PROJECT CONSIDERED IN
10:30:30AM THE AREA WHICH I KNOW ON FLORIDA WE DO, THE HEIGHTS MOBILITY
10:30:35AM PROJECT.
10:30:35AM AND MAY BE AN ADJUSTMENT BASED ON WHAT WE WERE PLANNING BUT
10:30:39AM WE CAN EXPEDITE THAT.
10:30:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT AND I WILL ASK MY
10:30:44AM AIDE.
10:30:46AM MY AIDE IS SICK TODAY AND TIM HEBERLEIN SAID HE WOULD HELP
10:30:54AM ME AND HE WILL COME OUT AND GET THAT INFORMATION SO YOU CAN
10:30:57AM E-MAIL ME DIRECTLY THAT WE WILL MAKE SURE SURE I GET THE
10:31:00AM INFORMATION TO NOT ONLY THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THE AREA BUT
10:31:03AM THOSE WHO DRIVE ON FLORIDA AVENUE WHO ARE COMPLAINING OF
10:31:06AM THEIR AXLES.
10:31:09AM >>BRAD BAIRD: I THINK CLARIFY THE WORK.
10:31:12AM FIVE VERY UNIQUE INLET THAT THE DESIGN DOES NOT TECHNICALLY
10:31:16AM MEET DOT SPECS BECAUSE OF THE GRADES AND ELEVATION THERE
10:31:20AM AND THE SIDE OF THE THROAT AND WHERE YOU NEED TO PUT THE
10:31:23AM SLABS FOR THOSE.
10:31:24AM SO IT HAS BEEN LITTLE BIT LONGER OF A VERY VIEW FOR D.O.T.
10:31:29AM BECAUSE WE HAVE GOT TO COME TO A COMPROMISE ON THOSE FIVE
10:31:33AM INLETS.
10:31:34AM BUT THAT IS WHAT THE DELAY.
10:31:36AM BUT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT STAFF IS CLOSER AND CLOSE TO AN
10:31:40AM APPROVAL ON THAT.
10:31:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
10:31:42AM ANY SORT OF UPDATE AND, AGAIN, MR. NELSON, THANK YOU SO
10:31:46AM MUCH.
10:31:47AM I KNOW OTHERS MIGHT HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT THESE ARE
10:31:50AM QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY ASKED ME TO ASK.
10:31:51AM AND I AGAIN, APPRECIATE IT.
10:31:54AM >> WE ARE BUILDING WITHIN EXISTING CONDITIONS.
10:31:56AM MATCH THE ELEVATION ON THIS SIDE WITH THAT SIDE AND DO THAT
10:32:00AM AGAIN.
10:32:00AM WHAT HAPPENED IS, WE WENT AROUND A LOT OF HAND WRINGING AND
10:32:05AM THOUGHTS OF THOSE TWO PARTICULAR ENLET'S AND STAFF MADE
10:32:09AM CHANGES AND NOW YOU CAN SEE IT.
10:32:10AM SOMETIMES WHEN IT LOOK LIKE ON PAPER, YOU ARE LIKE WAIT A
10:32:13AM MINUTE, SOMETHING WILL TRIP OVER THAT AND HIT THE WHEEL ON
10:32:16AM THAT.
10:32:16AM LET'S STEP BACK AND REVISIT IT.
10:32:19AM WE ARE READY TO ROLL AND ALL OF SUDDEN SAID ,LET'S DO A
10:32:24AM LITTLE BETTER.
10:32:25AM WE ARE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT STUFF.
10:32:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:32:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE INFORMATION YOU FIND OUT WILL BE SHARED
10:32:31AM WITH THE REST OF COUNCIL.
10:32:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY.
10:32:34AM WE ARE HEARING ABOUT OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM LOCAL PEOPLE.
10:32:39AM THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T OWN FLORIDA AVENUE.
10:32:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SOMETHING I WILL BRING UP LATER ON.
10:32:44AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:32:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM PLEASED TO HEAR WHAT YOU SAID,
10:32:48AM EVIDENTLY NOT ONLY IN YOUR CASE, BUT WHOEVER IS DOING THE
10:32:51AM OTHER JOBS, WHOEVER IS DOING ANOTHER TYPE OF WORK THAT YOU
10:32:54AM DEAL ANOTHER AGENCY.
10:32:56AM OR YOU OR YOUR SUPERVISOR OR ANYONE THAT THE PLAN CALLS FOR
10:33:00AM AND YOU FEEL THAT PLAN IS NOT GOING TO WORK, YOU GOT TO STOP
10:33:03AM THERE AND GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD OF WHOEVER THE
10:33:06AM FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION -- WHOEVER DID THE
10:33:10AM DESIGN SO THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE OR MAKE CHANGES TO THEIR OWN
10:33:13AM PLAN OR GO WITH YOUR PLAN OR MAKE NO CHANGES AT ALL.
10:33:16AM SO TO HOLD SOMEBODY RESPONSIBLE.
10:33:19AM WHAT YOU ARE DOING THERE, IN ESSENCE, IS HELPING WHAT YOU
10:33:23AM BELIEVE WILL BE THE RIGHT WAY OF DOING IT EVEN THOUGH IT WAS
10:33:25AM DESIGNED BY SOMEONE ELSE.
10:33:27AM AND FOR THAT PART, IN ESSENCE, YOU ARE SAVING TIME BECAUSE
10:33:33AM DOESN'T HAVE TO BE REDONE AGAIN UNTIL IT IS COMPLETE.
10:33:36AM >> WE MET WITH THE D.O.T. TWO YEARS AGO AND WORKED THROUGH
10:33:39AM THE DESIGN AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE STAFFING CHANGES AND HOPE A
10:33:43AM FRESH SET OF EYES WILL BE LOOKING AT IT AND CONCERNS OF
10:33:47AM TRIPPING HAZARDS AND WATER FLOWS AND WORKING WITH THE D.O.T.
10:33:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FROM WHAT YOU SPOKE EARLIER, AND GETTING
10:33:55AM THINGS -- ON ARMENIA AVENUE, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DELAYS BUT
10:33:59AM CAUSED BY THE -- THE PLAN SHOWS SOMETHING WHERE SOMETHING IS
10:34:03AM THERE, AND EIGHT INCHES OVER.
10:34:05AM WHEN THEY HIT IT, THEY HIT A GAS LINE.
10:34:07AM A NATURAL GAS LINE.
10:34:09AM THESE THINGS HAPPEN BUT NO ONE'S FAULT.
10:34:11AM GOING WITH THE PLAN WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AND AN INCH
10:34:15AM OR TWO MEANS A LOT.
10:34:16AM AND THE STREET WORKS THAT ARE DONE TO MAKE A RIGHT-HAND TURN
10:34:23AM TO HAVE THE BIG ORANGE BINS AND RIGHT THROUGH IT, I DON'T
10:34:29AM KNOW WHAT HE DID WITH HIS CAR, BUT IT WAS THERE FOR HELP TO
10:34:33AM NOT TO TURN.
10:34:33AM THESE THINGS DO HAPPEN AND TAKE TIME.
10:34:36AM THIS IS A 20-YEAR PROJECT.
10:34:37AM WE WILL GET THERE.
10:34:38AM >> WE HAVE DONE A LOT -- WHEN WE WERE DOING MARION STREET
10:34:42AM OUT HERE, WE FOUND WOODEN WATER LINES FROM THE 18 WHATEVER
10:34:45AM IT WAS WITH CANNONBALLS AND MUSKET BALLS --
10:34:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOPED YOU SAVED IT.
10:34:53AM >>THE CITY HAD ALL THAT STUFF.
10:34:54AM YOU START DIGGING IN OLD STREETS, YOU FIND THINGS -- NEVER
10:34:57AM WHERE THEY SAID IT WAS AND SOMETIMES NOT EVEN THERE AND
10:35:01AM SOMEBODY PULLED IT OUT 20 YEARS AGO AND NEVER PUT NOTES THEY
10:35:07AM TOOK IT OUT.
10:35:07AM ESPECIALLY IN THE HISTORIC AREA TO FIND ALL KIND OF STUFF
10:35:11AM THAT YOU NEVER EXPECTED.
10:35:12AM YOU JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
10:35:13AM YOU ADOPT.
10:35:15AM THE BEST LAID PLANS AND ADAPT AND IMPROVISE TO MAKE IT ALL
10:35:20AM WORK.
10:35:21AM WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN.
10:35:22AM WE ARE A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT NEBRASKA.
10:35:24AM WHEN WE GO OUT THERE, ROAD THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER.
10:35:29AM WHO KNOWS WHAT IS UNDER THERE.
10:35:31AM CAST-IRON PIPE AT THE VERGE OF BREAKING.
10:35:36AM AND WE ARE SUSPECTING THAT WE MAY HAVE THE SAME SITUATION ON
10:35:42AM NEBRASKA AND WORKING CLOSE WITH THE D.O.T. AND THEY TOLD US
10:35:47AM TO BE PREPARED FOR THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
10:35:49AM SOLUTIONS.
10:35:49AM DON'T BE SURPRISE THAT WE WILL DIG IT UP AND SOMETHING WE
10:35:54AM NEVER KNEW IS THERE.
10:35:55AM >> THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND WHAT YOU DO FOR THE
10:35:59AM BUSINESS.
10:35:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:36:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR ANOTHER
10:36:03AM UPDATE.
10:36:04AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ASKED PRETTY MUCH ALL THE REQUEST HE IS.
10:36:06AM I KNOW SHE AND I GET THE BULK OF THE COMPLAINTS.
10:36:09AM >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
10:36:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BECAUSE THE AREAS WE COVER.
10:36:13AM BUT I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK WILL STOCK FOR ALWAYS BEING
10:36:18AM RESPONSIVE.
10:36:18AM FEW WEEKS AGO, JUST LIKE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I WAS GIVEN A
10:36:23AM TOUR OF THE AREA.
10:36:24AM THIS IS BEYOND -- I DRIVE THROUGH THERE EVERY DAY -- EVERY
10:36:28AM OTHER DAY, LET'S SAY.
10:36:29AM HE WAS SPECIFIC GOING DOWN STREET BY STREET AND TELLING US
10:36:33AM WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:36:34AM WHAT HAPPENED.
10:36:35AM WHAT PROBLEMS.
10:36:37AM HOW IT IS BEING REMEDIED AND WHAT IS COMING.
10:36:40AM A COMMUNITY MEETING COMING NEXT WEEK AND I KNOW IT WILL BE
10:36:44AM VERY WELL ATTENDED.
10:36:45AM I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE IN CARACAS AND THEY HAVE BEEN
10:36:49AM AFFECTED.
10:36:49AM AFFECTED FROM TRASH PICK-UP TO THE ROAD BEING TORN UP AGAIN.
10:36:53AM I KNOW SOME OF THEM ARE WATCHING.
10:36:55AM I SPOKE WITH A GENTLEMAN YESTERDAY RIGHT THERE OFF OF
10:37:01AM CARACAS OFF OF NEBRASKA AVENUE.
10:37:03AM MY OFFICE AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S OFFICE TRIED TO BE
10:37:07AM RERESPONSIVE.
10:37:09AM SHE MADE A COMMENT THAT THE AMOUNT OF CALLS WE ARE GETTING
10:37:11AM HAVE BEEN REDUCED AND IT IS TRUE.
10:37:13AM EVEN SOCIAL MEDIA ENGAGEMENT, BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE TO GO ON
10:37:16AM FACEBOOK AND OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS.
10:37:20AM BUT YOU HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE EVEN THROUGH THE ISSUES
10:37:24AM AND DELAYS AND CORRECTIONS THAT HAD TO BE MADE.
10:37:27AM HOPEFULLY SMOOTH SAILING GOING FORWARD BUT AGAIN A VERY
10:37:32AM COMPLICATED PROJECT.
10:37:33AM FLORIDA AVENUE FROM WHAT YOU FOUND.
10:37:36AM PIPES FROM THE 1960s.
10:37:39AM NEBRASKA AVENUE.
10:37:40AM ANOTHER HEAVILY TRAVELED AND OLD ROAD.
10:37:44AM NO KNOWS WHAT YOU WILL FIND.
10:37:46AM EASY AND SMOOTH SAILING.
10:37:47AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING OUT HERE.
10:37:49AM WE ARE AT THE FRONT LINE WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE THEY
10:37:53AM CONTACT US.
10:37:54AM THEY ASK FOR HELP.
10:37:55AM WE ARE NOT THE ENGINEERS.
10:37:56AM WE ARE NOT WORKING ON THE PROJECT.
10:37:58AM THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS REACH OUT TO THE POINT PERSON
10:38:02AM MR. STOCK AND HE IS ALWAYS RESPONSIVE.
10:38:05AM I CALL HIM OR E-MAIL HIM, HE ANSWERS OR IF I SEND AN E-MAIL,
10:38:10AM THE RESPONSE WITHIN A FEW MINUTES.
10:38:11AM YOU HAVE A VERY GOOD PERSON LEADING THE WAY AND OVERSEEING A
10:38:15AM LOT OF THIS STUFF AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
10:38:17AM I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE ANY MORE TIME BECAUSE COUNCILWOMAN
10:38:20AM HURTAK ASKED PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING I WAS GOING TO ASK.
10:38:22AM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR BEING RESPONSIVE.
10:38:25AM >> THANK YOU.
10:38:25AM NOW HE WILL ASK ME FOR A RAISE.
10:38:28AM THANK YOU.
10:38:28AM HE IS A GOOD GUY.
10:38:30AM HE IS DOING A VERY GOOD JOB OUT THERE.
10:38:31AM AS FAR AS CARACAS.
10:38:35AM A RESIDENT WEARING A NELSON HARD HAT AND VEST.
10:38:39AM WHAT ARE WE DOING.
10:38:40AM SHE WAS TALKING TO OUR SUPERINTENDENT.
10:38:42AM INFORMED WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:38:44AM I THINK IT IS INCONVENIENT.
10:38:45AM I KNOW IT IS INCONVENIENT.
10:38:46AM WE ARE KEEPING A MORE DIRECT LINE OF COMMUNICATION.
10:38:51AM I KNOW SUPPOSED TO GO TO THE PR PEOPLE.
10:38:54AM HAVING THE GUYS ON THE GROUND TALKING TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE
10:38:57AM THERE RATHER THAN EVERYTHING RUNNING THROUGH A PR FILTER, A
10:39:01AM PERSON-TO-PERSON SITUATION SEEMS TO TURN THE TIDE AND I
10:39:07AM THINK WE MADE A FEW FRIENDS OUT THERE.
10:39:08AM KNOCK ON WOODS.
10:39:09AM WE WILL SEE HOW THAT GOES IN A ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS BUT I
10:39:13AM THINK WE ARE DOING OKAY.
10:39:14AM YOU WANT ME TO TALK OF THE OTHER PART OF THE JO BE.
10:39:16AM CONTINUE AROUND TO THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE JOB.
10:39:20AM WE SHOULD BE PAVED ON THE CARACAS AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF
10:39:24AM THE INTERSTATE WITH THE FIRST WEEK OF MARCH WITH THE
10:39:26AM EXCEPTION OF THE LAST 120 FEET COME TO NEBRASKA.
10:39:30AM PERMEABLE PAVERS AND THOSE SHOULD BE INSTALLED BY THE END OF
10:39:35AM MARCH.
10:39:35AM NEBRASKA, WE ARE SEEKING INFORMATION FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:39:40AM WATER DISTRIBUTION.
10:39:41AM WHEN WE TURN OFF WATER LINES WE NEED TO KNOW HOW THEY ARE
10:39:45AM FED.
10:39:45AM AND APPEAR MEETING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:39:47AM LITTLE CONFUSION AND TRYING TO RESCHEDULE ANOTHER MEETING.
10:39:51AM WE CAN'T BE TURNING PEOPLE OFF WATER FOR ANY EXTENDED PERIOD
10:39:54AM OF TIME AND TRYING TO GET THAT INFORMATION AND PLANNING ON
10:39:58AM STARTING WOULD WORK IN NEBRASKA BEGINNING OF APRIL.
10:40:01AM KNOCK ON WOOD.
10:40:02AM EVERYTHING I TELL YOU IS WEATHER PERMITTING OF AND STUFF OF
10:40:07AM THAT NATURE.
10:40:08AM SHOULD TAKE SIX WEEK AND HAVE TO FIND STUFF TO ADOPT AND
10:40:12AM FIND OUT MATERIALS.
10:40:13AM CARACAS EAST OF NEBRASKA.
10:40:17AM WE WILL FOLLOW RIGHT ON BEHIND THAT.
10:40:19AM SO IF WE GET OUT THERE.
10:40:20AM SOMETIME IN MAY, EAST OUT OF NEBRASKA AND MOVING TO THE EAST
10:40:24AM INTO THIS AREA HERE.
10:40:25AM ON THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF OUR JOB, THE WATER LINE IS
10:40:30AM INSTALLED AND WE SHOULD HAVE THE FIRST LIFT OF ASPHALT ON IT
10:40:35AM BY THE END OF THE WEEK.
10:40:36AM WE ARE HOPING.
10:40:41AM SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE APPROACHED THE CITY OF ADDITIONAL
10:40:44AM ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
10:40:45AM WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ACCOMMODATE.
10:40:47AM JUST TELL US WHAT TO DO THE NORTHWEST SECTION OF OUR
10:40:52AM PROJECT, THE WATER LINE IS INSTALLED.
10:40:54AM THE SOUTH HALF.
10:40:55AM THE WATER LINE OF CHEROKEE HAS BEEN INVOLVED.
10:40:58AM THE SOUTH HALF HAVE BASE AND WILL BE PAVED IN THE NEXT
10:41:02AM COUPLE WEEKS.
10:41:02AM PERMEABLE PAVERS INSTALLED BY MID-MARCH.
10:41:08AM LAST PART THE CENTRAL LINE.
10:41:10AM AND PLANNING ON STARTING THE WATER LINE IN MIDMARCH AND
10:41:14AM CONCERNS IF WE ARE DOING POTHOLE AND DIGGING.
10:41:17AM SOME THINGS THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE.
10:41:19AM THE WATER LINE IS A LITTLE SHALLOWER THAN IT SHOULD BE.
10:41:23AM WE DON'T KNOW WHY THE GUYS IN THE 50s PUT IT THERE.
10:41:27AM WE ARE CONCERNED THAT IF WE START DIGGING IT UP WE WILL FIND
10:41:31AM STUFF THAT NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT.
10:41:34AM NOBODY ALIVE IN THE CITY THAT KNOWS WHAT IS UNDER THAT STUFF
10:41:37AM AND WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE DO.
10:41:39AM THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY UNLESS SOMEBODY HAVE QUESTIONS.
10:41:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:41:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND
10:41:48AM UPDATING US.
10:41:48AM I AM GOING TO ASK FOR ANOTHER UPDATE MARCH 16.
10:41:55AM CAN I GET -- MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE ANOTHER UPDATE MARCH 16.
10:41:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:42:00AM MISS NICOLE TRAVIS WILL WALK UP TO THE PODIUM.
10:42:03AM NO?
10:42:04AM OKAY.
10:42:04AM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:42:07AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:42:08AM ALL IN FAVOR.
10:42:09AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:42:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:42:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION PASSES.
10:42:17AM >> THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE YOU MOVING US UP
10:42:21AM AGAIN.
10:42:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-79064.
10:42:30AM >>RON WIGGINTON: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:42:32AM RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:42:35AM A HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT CONTINUED FROM THE JANUARY 2
10:42:41AM AGAIN.
10:42:41AM AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND KIMMONS TO USE OUR BRUSH SITE
10:42:45AM AS A YARD FOR THEIR PROJECT.
10:42:48AM THE REASON WHY IT WAS CONTINUED BECAUSE COUNCIL HAD RECEIVED
10:42:52AM CERTAIN E-MAILS EXPRESSING SOME CONCERNS OF DAMAGE TO
10:42:55AM RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
10:42:56AM BASICALLY WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS EXTRACTED THE LANGUAGE
10:43:00AM CONTAINED IN THE DESIGN-BUILD AGREEMENT AND PUT IT IN THE
10:43:03AM LICENSE AGREEMENT AND ADDRESSES MOST OF THOSE CONCERNS AND
10:43:07AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU YOU HAVE ANY.
10:43:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
10:43:11AM SEEING NONE.
10:43:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:43:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FILE
10:43:19AM NUMBER BZP 23-7906 WILL BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:43:24AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:43:26AM ALL IN FAVOR.
10:43:27AM OPPOSED.
10:43:27AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6.
10:43:29AM BZP 23-79607.
10:43:36AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: GOOD MORNING, ADRI COLINA, DIRECTOR OF
10:43:40AM LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.
10:43:42AM I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK ON ITEM NUMBER 6 WHICH IS RESOLUTION
10:43:45AM REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL TO ADD TO IT THE HANNA AVENUE GNP.
10:43:51AM THIS AMOUNT IS $3.7 MILLION AND BROKEN DOWN AS FOLLOWS: FOR
10:43:57AM THE SOLAR PANELS ADDITION TO THE FLEET AND FACILITIES
10:44:01AM BUILDING THAT COUNCIL REQUESTED AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO
10:44:03AM SUPPORT AND ADD.
10:44:04AM BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT.
10:44:06AM THAT IS $1.2 MILLION ROUGHLY.
10:44:11AM I AM ROUNDING UP.
10:44:12AM AND THEN ALSO ADDING SOME EV CHARGING STATIONS TO THE
10:44:17AM OVERALL COMPLEX.
10:44:18AM ANOTHER COUNCILHAPPY TO SUPPORT RIGHT SIDE 411,000.
10:44:22AM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT BOTH OF THESE ITEMS
10:44:25AM CONTRIBUTED TO THE SILVER LEED STATUS WE HAVE AT THE SITE
10:44:32AM AND THE AIA AMERICAN ARCHITECTS AWARD THAT THIS BUILDING HAS
10:44:38AM ALREADY RECEIVED.
10:44:38AM THIS IS INCLUDED IN THIS CHANGE ORDER, AS WELL AS SOIL
10:44:41AM REMEDIATION.
10:44:42AM AS I SHARED WITH EACH OF YOU DURING OUR BRIEFS, THERE WAS
10:44:46AM MORE SOIL THAT WE NEEDED.
10:44:47AM THAT WAS CONTAMINATED THAT WE NEEDED TO REMOVE FROM THE SITE
10:44:51AM THAN ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED.
10:44:53AM THIS IS INCLUDED IN THERE.
10:44:55AM $1.4 MILLION.
10:44:57AM THE LAST COST IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT TO CONSTRUCT THE FACILITIES
10:45:02AM BUILDING.
10:45:02AM THE FINAL IT SUPPLIES FOR THAT FINAL BUYOUT PROCESS.
10:45:05AM FINAL THING IS A CREDIT OF $1.2 MILLION TO US BECAUSE WE
10:45:11AM WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE FURNITURE AT A BETTER REAL THAN DPR
10:45:15AM WOULD HAVE.
10:45:15AM I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY GIVE KUDOS TO DPR BECAUSE THIS
10:45:20AM CHANGE ORDER WE ARE COMING BEFORE YOU DO DOES NOT INCLUDE
10:45:25AM ANY GT FEES OR ANY FEES THAT DPR COULD CHARGE US.
10:45:30AM THEY WILLINGLY REMOVED THAT COST AND WE ARE SIMPLY BEING
10:45:33AM CHARGED COST.
10:45:34AM NO ADDITIONAL FEES TO DPR.
10:45:37AM WITH THAT, I AM ASKING FOR YOUR VOTE TO APPROVE THIS CHANGE
10:45:40AM ORDER.
10:45:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:45:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST TO DATE?
10:45:48AM IS IT -- I REMEMBER 126 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
10:45:51AM IS THAT RIGHT?
10:45:52AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: SO THE GMP WAS $101 MILLION, IF YOU
10:45:57AM RECALL.
10:45:57AM THIS IS ADDING $3.7 MILLION TO THAT.
10:46:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: HAVE WE GONE PAST THE ORIGINAL DOCTOR I
10:46:04AM THINK THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE WAS $108 MILLION.
10:46:07AM HAVE WE GONE PAST THE $108 MILLION YET?
10:46:11AM >> THE $108 MILLION, LET'S BE CLEAR, THAT INCLUDES THE
10:46:15AM EXPENSES WE INCURRED IN 2015 TO ASSESS THAT SITE.
10:46:19AM IT ALSO INCLUDES THE 6.3 MILLION WE PAID FOR THE
10:46:23AM DEMOLITION OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS ON-SITE.
10:46:25AM AND THE DESIGN-BUILD.
10:46:27AM THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING THAT WE ARE NOW CONSTRUCTING,
10:46:31AM THE GMP WAS $101 MILLION AND ADDING TO THE 3.7.
10:46:37AM IF YOU ADD ALL THREE TOGETHER YOU ARE CORRECT, 108 AND NOW
10:46:41AM SIMPLY ADDING THE $3.7 TO THAT.
10:46:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DO -- I DON'T HAVE THE DOCUMENTS IN FRONT
10:46:47AM OF ME BUT SEEMS LIKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO SAID SOMETHING
10:46:50AM LIKE $121 MILLION.
10:46:52AM WHEN WAS THAT NUMBER?
10:46:54AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: WHAT I RECALL WITH THAT NUMBER, COUNCILMAN
10:46:57AM WITH AN E-MAIL THAT YOU SENT THIS MORNING ASKING FOR SOME
10:46:59AM ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AS IT RELATED TO INTEREST AND LONG
10:47:03AM TERM.
10:47:03AM THAT NUMBER IS NOT THIS.
10:47:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS SUMMARY WAS
10:47:08AM PRESENTED TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO.
10:47:10AM WASN'T THE NUMBER THAT WAS IN THERE -- I DON'T HAVE IT IN
10:47:14AM FRONT OF ME, BUT WASN'T IT 121, THAT INCLUDED ALL THE
10:47:19AM EXPENSES GOING BACK TO 2015?
10:47:21AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I DON'T RECALL THAT NUMBER TESTIMONY.
10:47:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ROGER.
10:47:33AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DEN NECESSARY ROGERO, I MAY BRING LIGHT TO
10:47:40AM IT.
10:47:41AM CAN I HAVE THE ELMO UP.
10:47:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU ZOOM IT?
10:47:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A WHEEL ON THE TOP.
10:47:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, ON THE TOP.
10:47:49AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I SEE.
10:47:51AM HIGH-TECH.
10:47:54AM THIS IS OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR THE HANNA AVENUE
10:48:00AM RELOCATION AS YOU SEE HERE.
10:48:02AM ALTHOUGH WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CONTRACTS IN PLACE AND A NUMBER
10:48:05AM OF FUNDING SOURCES AS YOU SEE HERE.
10:48:07AM DO YOU SEE THAT OR I DO NEED TO ZOOM IT --
10:48:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ZOOM OUT, PLEASE.
10:48:13AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I AM GOING TO POINT TO SECTIONS.
10:48:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
10:48:18AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU SEE THE FUNDING SOURCES HERE.
10:48:21AM AND AS YET TO BE ISSUED THAT ISSUANCE OF 2.9 MILLION.
10:48:27AM AND THEN OVER ON THE RIGHT.
10:48:30AM HERE IS THE TOTAL ANTICIPATED COST OF THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW,
10:48:33AM $119.6 MILLION.
10:48:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS INCLUDING THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAVE
10:48:38AM BEFORE US RIGHT NOW?
10:48:40AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, THE PROPOSAL YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY
10:48:42AM IS CHANGES THE CONTRACT AND IT YOU NOT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL
10:48:47AM APPROPRIATION.
10:48:48AM APPROVES THE FUNDING AS PART OF THE CIP.
10:48:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: ANY EXPENSES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN APPROVED YET?
10:48:56AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NOT TO MY, AND REFER IT TO MISS COLINA.
10:49:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: LET ME ASK ONE QUESTION TO YOU.
10:49:05AM THIS MORNING YOU TOLD ME THE INTEREST IS $56.5 MILLION.
10:49:09AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
10:49:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: OVER 30 YEARS.
10:49:10AM WAS THE NUMBER HIGHER AND YOU GOT A BETTER RATE?
10:49:13AM THAT IS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF 30 YEARS YOU ANTICIPATE, THE
10:49:17AM ACTUAL NUMBER?
10:49:18AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THE TOTAL NUMBER WE ANTICIPATE RIGHT
10:49:20AM NOW.
10:49:20AM WHEN WE ISSUED THE DEBT, DEPENDS ON WHEN YOU HIT THE MARKET,
10:49:25AM THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:49:26AM YOU RECALL WE DID VERY WELL.
10:49:28AM WE DIDN'T COME UP WITH A DOLLAR FIGURE IN TERMS OF
10:49:32AM ANTICIPATED INTEREST, BUT WE DID COME UP WITH A PERCENTAGE
10:49:35AM OF TRUE INTEREST COST AND CAME IN BELOW OUR ESTIMATE.
10:49:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: A NUMBER I REMEMBER FROM A YEAR AGO AROUND
10:49:42AM $71 MILLION
10:49:42AM IF YOU GOT A BETTER RATE, YOU SAVED $15 MILLION HITTING THE
10:49:46AM MARKET RIGHT AND GETTING GOOD RATES.
10:49:48AM THAT IS GOOD NEWS.
10:49:49AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
10:49:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: TAKE 119 AND 56.5, THAT IS LIKE 175, IS THAT
10:49:58AM -- DID I GET THE NUMBERS RIGHT?
10:50:00AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: 169.2 MILLION.
10:50:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: 119 PLUS 56.5.
10:50:10AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WAIT A MINUTE.
10:50:13AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:50:14AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:50:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE O&M IS YET?
10:50:20AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT I DON'T KNOW.
10:50:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.
10:50:24AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE HAVE A PREDICTION FOR THE O ANDM WHEN WE
10:50:27AM COST IT OUT.
10:50:28AM I WILL REFER TO MISS COLINA FOR THE DETAILS.
10:50:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE LAST THING I REMEMBER AND COUNCILMAN
10:50:36AM GUDES WILL REMEMBER, TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS TO BE
10:50:39AM INCLUDED IN THE $108 MILLION.
10:50:40AM SUR FREEZE.
10:50:41AM I WILL VOTE AGAINST THIS BECAUSE I THINK THIS PROJECT IS WAY
10:50:45AM OVER BUDGET ALREADY.
10:50:46AM AND BEFORE SOMEBODY IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE SPENDS IT TO SAY I
10:50:50AM AM AGAINST EV AND SOLAR PANELS.
10:50:53AM I AM 100% IN FAVOR OF IT.
10:50:55AM THEY ARE SAYING BECAUSE I VOTED AGAINST THE BUDGET THAT I AM
10:50:59AM AGAINST WAGES FOR POLICE AND FIRE IS NOT WHAT THE KIND OF
10:51:01AM INFORMATION THAT THE CITY SHOULD PUT OUT.
10:51:03AM I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THEY WOULD NOT MISCONSTRUE THIS.
10:51:06AM BUT I THINK THIS -- MY UNDERSTANDING THESE THINGS WE ARE
10:51:11AM BEING ASKED TO SPEND MONEY ON INCLUDED THE ORIGINAL BUDGET
10:51:14AM AND I THINK THE $108 MILLION WAS TOO MUCH.
10:51:17AM I THINK $120 MILLION IS WAY TOO MUCH.
10:51:20AM AND IF YOU INCLUDE -- LIKE WE ARE UP TO 175 AND O &M OVER
10:51:27AM 200 WAY TOO MUCH AND WE NEED TO STAY IN BUDGET.
10:51:30AM I WILL BE VOTING NO.
10:51:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:51:33AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
10:51:35AM I SAID WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST OF THIS PROJECT.
10:51:38AM AND AND I ASKED THAT QUESTION YESTERDAY, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS
10:51:47AM THIS NUMBER FOR THE SOLAR.
10:51:48AM YOU KNOW, I KNOW SOME COUNCILMEMBERS ARE DEEPLY INTO THE
10:51:53AM CHARGING STATION AND THE NEW INNOVATION COMING, BUT -- BUT
10:51:59AM SEEMS LIKE THE PRICE KEEPS GOING UP AND UP AN UP AS WE GO.
10:52:03AM EVERY SIX MONTHS.
10:52:04AM LIKE IT -- IT IS EVOLVING.
10:52:06AM I KNOW COSTS GO UP BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY AND THINGS LIKE
10:52:09AM THAT.
10:52:09AM BUT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WAS OUR BOTTOM LINE, THE
10:52:13AM $108 MILLION.
10:52:15AM AND I NEVER IMAGINE IT WOULD JUMP TO -- IT COULD BE MORE
10:52:23AM THAN TWO.
10:52:23AM IT COULD BE MORE.
10:52:25AM THE WAY THIS THING IS FLUCTUATING.
10:52:30AM BUT I THINK -- I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
10:52:32AM IS THIS THE BOTTOM LINE PRICE FOR THIS WHOLE PROJECT TO BE
10:52:36AM COMPLETED AND DONE WITH.
10:52:38AM BUT I GUESS THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER.
10:52:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ROGERO.
10:52:45AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:52:46AM TO CLARIFY TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE, CAPITAL
10:52:49AM IMPROVEMENT WAS $119.6 MILLION.
10:52:52AM TOTAL DEBT SERVICE TO DATE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
10:52:56AM WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DISCREPANCY IN OUR COMMUNICATION A
10:53:03AM PREMIUM, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS, WHEN WE RECEIVED THE $165
10:53:07AM MILLION OF DEBT FOR ANY NUMBER OF PROJECTS INCLUDING HANNA.
10:53:10AM TOTAL DEBT SERVICE TO DATE IS $169.2 MILLION I REFERENCED.
10:53:16AM I -- IN MY CALCULATIONS WHICH YOU DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF
10:53:20AM YOU INCLUDE $4 MILLION TO $5 MILLION WORTH OF PREMIUM.
10:53:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: TIME SORRY.
10:53:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:53:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE NUMBER YOU SENT ME THIS MORNING JUST TO
10:53:31AM THERE ARE PROJECT INTEREST IS $56.5 MILLION?
10:53:35AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
10:53:36AM YOU WOULD ADD THAT -- I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING TO $116.6
10:53:41AM MILLION IN PRINCIPAL.
10:53:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU NODE $119,600.
10:53:49AM >> GAINED $4 MILLION IN PREMIUM WHEN WE ISSUED THE DEBT
10:53:52AM SERVICE AND CAN COME ABOUT DUE TO A COUPLE OF REASONS.
10:53:55AM GOOD TIMING IN THE MARKET AND CANDIDLY BECAUSE THE MARKET
10:54:00AM AND INVESTORS THINK WE ARE A GOOD INVESTMENT.
10:54:03AM THEY GAVE US MORE MONEY THAN THE PEACE VALUE OF THE BOND.
10:54:06AM CARLSON CHARLESTON THAT IS GOOD NEWS YOU GOT A DISCOUNT ON
10:54:11AM WHAT I REMEMBER FOR THE INTEREST.
10:54:12AM $15 MILLION PLUS $4 MILLION.
10:54:14AM THAT'S GREAT.
10:54:15AM BUT MY OTHER CONCERN I MENTIONED A MINUTE AGO O&M.
10:54:21AM SIX MONTHS OUT, WHAT THE O&M WILL BE.
10:54:25AM I AM GUESSING TALKING TO DEVELOPERS, BUT THIS MORNING WE
10:54:30AM WERE TRADING.
10:54:30AM TRADING ALL E-MAILS ABOUT THE RENTAL EQUIPMENT.
10:54:34AM BUSINESS CASE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE A COUPLE -- FEW YEARS
10:54:40AM AGO AND WE COULD COMPARE APPLE TO APPLES.
10:54:44AM ANYWAY, THIS PROJECT IS ALMOST DONE.
10:54:46AM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET CAREFULLY.
10:54:48AM I AM IN FAVOR OF THE SOLAR PANELS AND THE EV, BUT NOT IN
10:54:52AM FAVOR OF INCREASING THE OVERALL BUDGET.
10:54:54AM THIS PROJECT IS WAY OVER BUDGET.
10:54:56AM I AT THAT YOU CAN TO BUSINESS PEOPLE THEY SAY A BUILDING FOR
10:54:59AM 500 PEOPLE SHOULD COST 20 MILLION.
10:55:01AM THEY ARE SHOCKED IT COSTS SO MUCH.
10:55:03AM I CAN'T APPROVE ANY MORE -- I PROBABLY WILL BE IN THE
10:55:08AM MINORITY.
10:55:08AM BUT I CAN'T APPROVE ANY OR INCREASES.
10:55:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:55:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM FORGETTING THE WORD, FRINGE.
10:55:16AM THE 20% --
10:55:18AM >> CONTINGENCY.
10:55:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, CONTINGENCY.
10:55:23AM I COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT.
10:55:24AM WHAT WAS THE CONTINGENCY FOR THIS.
10:55:29AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE DID, I DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL CONTINGENCY
10:55:33AM AT THIS TIME.
10:55:34AM I DON'T KNOW IF MISS COLINA DOES.
10:55:36AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I DO.
10:55:37AM A CONTINGENCY, 2.9 MILLION.
10:55:41AM WE USED OUR CONTINGENCY TO ACCOMMODATE THE COUNCIL'S REQUEST
10:55:47AM AND PURCHASE OF COUNCIL'S REQUEST BECAUSE OF LONG LEAD
10:55:54AM TIMES.
10:55:54AM WE ASKED TO REPLENISH THE CONTINGENCY TWO OF THE LARGER ONES
10:56:00AM WERE COUNCIL REQUESTS.
10:56:01AM AND THEY WERE MADE WHEN WE PRESENTED THE GNP IN NOVEMBER
10:56:06AM 2021.
10:56:06AM NO WAY PEOPLE THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THERE
10:56:10AM BECAUSE IT WAS MADE AT THIS TIME.
10:56:11AM NOW THE FIRST TIME WE COME BEFORE YOU TO YOU ASK FOR
10:56:14AM ADDITIONAL FUNDS.
10:56:15AM CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 1.
10:56:16AM WE ASKED FOR NOTHING IN BETWEEN.
10:56:19AM AND TODAY, AGAIN, A BULK OF IT ARE THINGS THAT COUNCIL ASKED
10:56:23AM FOR.
10:56:24AM AND LET ME ALSO TELL YOU, I WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH
10:56:29AM RICK ROSNER OUR SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY OFFICER.
10:56:33AM AND MOST OF THIS MONEY WE CAN HAVE RETURNED TO US THROUGH
10:56:36AM THE INFRASTRUCTURE REDUCTION ACT.
10:56:38AM IN FACT GOING FOR THE NUMBERS WE HAVE FOR THE SOLAR PANELS,
10:56:41AM WE ARE LOOKING AT ABOUT $1 MILLION RETURNING TO US.
10:56:43AM WITH REGARD TO THE SOIL REMEDIATION OVERALL, AGAIN, A STATE
10:56:48AM PROGRAM THAT WILL REIMBURSE US ABOUT $1.5 MILLION WHEN IT IS
10:56:53AM ALL SAID AND DONE.
10:56:57AM ASSURED WE ARE BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBILITY.
10:57:01AM AND A BIG BULK WITH COUNCIL'S REQUEST AND HAPPY TO
10:57:05AM ACCOMMODATE IT AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE.
10:57:07AM >> I APOLOGIZE.
10:57:10AM IF I ADD AN ADDENDUM.
10:57:12AM MY INTENT THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME FINANCIAL PAGE FROM A
10:57:16AM CONTRACT PERSPECTIVE AS MISS COLINA SAID, IT IS AN INCREASE,
10:57:20AM BUT NOT AN INCREASE IN THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT IN TOTAL.
10:57:25AM WE ARE MOVING FUNDING WITHIN THE $119.6 MILLION PART OF
10:57:30AM THE CIP TO ACCOMMODATE THESE INCREASES AND CREDITS.
10:57:34AM FROM A CONTRACT PERSPECTIVE, IT IS AN INCREASE, BUT WE ARE
10:57:37AM NOT ADDING FUNDING TO THE PROJECT.
10:57:39AM AGAIN, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL CLARIFIED.
10:57:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THE $119 MILLION IS NOT AFFECTED BY IN
10:57:47AM $3.7 MILLION?
10:57:48AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CORRECT.
10:57:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SOIL REMEDIATION.
10:57:52AM YOU SAID $1.4 MILLION.
10:57:54AM NOW IN THE WORLD CAN WE GET $1.5 MILLION BACK.
10:57:57AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THE $1.4 MILLION IS JUST THE ADDITION.
10:58:00AM WE ACCOUNTED FOR SOME SORT OF REMEDIATION.
10:58:02AM THIS IS ADDITIONAL.
10:58:04AM REMEMBER I MENTIONED WHEN WE BEGAN EXCAVATION, MORE
10:58:08AM CONTAMINATED ON THE SOIL THAT NO ONE WOULD HAVE KNOWN UNTIL
10:58:12AM EXCAVATION BEGAN.
10:58:13AM THIS IS TO CONTINUE THE CLEANUP WE HAVE TO DO IN THE AREA.
10:58:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
10:58:18AM AND YOU -- SO WE ARE APPLYING FOR THE STATE TO REFUND MONEY.
10:58:24AM IS THIS A PROCESS WE HAVE TO -- THIS LIKE A GRANT THAT WE
10:58:29AM MAY OR MAY NOT WIN?
10:58:30AM HOW CERTAIN ARE WE TO GET MILLION DOLLARS BACK FOR SOIL AND
10:58:36AM $1.5 MILLION BACK FOR SOIL REMEDIATION?
10:58:39AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: WE ARE 100% CERTAIN ON THE SOIL
10:58:43AM REMEDIATION.
10:58:44AM IT IS A BROWN FIELD SITE.
10:58:45AM AND WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
10:58:47AM AND WE ARE DEFINITELY GETTING THAT BACK.
10:58:50AM AS FAR AS THE INFRASTRUCTURE REDUCTION ACT, AGAIN, I AM
10:58:54AM WORKING WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY OFFICERS AND
10:58:57AM THAN WILL GO INTO EFFECT AND WORKING HARD ON THAT AS WELL.
10:59:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM REALLY TORN ON THIS.
10:59:06AM I MEAN I WASN'T HEAR FOR THIS.
10:59:08AM I THINK SOLAR IS GREAT.
10:59:09AM I THINK EV IS GREAT.
10:59:12AM BUT THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY AND WE ARE OUT OF OUR MAP MONEY.
10:59:15AM WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE MONEY TO GO TOWARD HOUSING, KEEPING
10:59:19AM PEOPLE IN THEIR HOUSING.
10:59:20AM $176 MILLION?
10:59:22AM I -- COULD REALLY GO TOWARD THAT AND I UNDERSTAND IT IS IN
10:59:27AM THIS.
10:59:28AM I AM HESITATING HERE.
10:59:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:59:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:59:34AM I WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR.
10:59:35AM SO WAS THIS MONEY NECESSITATED DUE TO A REQUEST FROM THIS
10:59:39AM CITY COUNCIL FOR ADDITION TO THE PROJECTS.
10:59:45AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: JUST BEING COMPLETELY CLEAR, IT IS COUNCIL
10:59:49AM AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS NOT THERE AT THAT TIME.
10:59:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T MEAN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
10:59:56AM THIS IS IN RESPONSE AS A BODY..
10:59:57AM JUST TO BE CLEAR, NO, NO, NO, WE AS A BODY, DID WE MAKE THAT
11:00:02AM REQUEST?
11:00:03AM THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME.
11:00:07AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YES, SIR, FOR TWO OF THE ITEMS ROUGHLY IN
11:00:11AM 2021.
11:00:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW MUCH OF THOSE TWO ITEMS.
11:00:14AM >> $1.6 MILLION.
11:00:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF THAT.
11:00:19AM THAT'S ALL.I WANTED THAT FOR MY OWN INFORMATION.
11:00:24AM THANK YOU.
11:00:24AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN CLARIFY AND WHY YOU ARE POINT IS
11:00:28AM WELL TAKEN, COUNCILWOMAN.
11:00:31AM THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING WILL BE UNAVAILABLE.
11:00:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW.
11:00:34AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
11:00:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:00:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU WILL CHAIRMAN.
11:00:38AM I SOMETIMES THINK A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MOST.
11:00:40AM HAVE WE EVER CONSIDERED IF THE WHOLE ITEM WAS NEVER BUILT,
11:00:48AM WHAT WOULD IT COST TO RENT A BUILDING FOR THE PROCESS.
11:00:51AM IF HE CAN COMPARE THE WHOLE THING TO HAVE CLARITY WHAT IT
11:00:55AM COSTS TO RENT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:00:57AM AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THE FUTURE INCREASES IN RENTS ARE
11:01:01AM GOING TO BE LIKE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW ALL OVER THE CITY.
11:01:03AM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
11:01:05AM HAVE WE EVER DONE ANY ANALYTICAL STUDIES ON WHAT YOU KNOW IT
11:01:09AM COSTS AND WHAT THE O&M WILL BE VERSUS WHAT THE IS, NEVER
11:01:16AM GOING TO OWE ANYTHING AND PAYING FOREVER AND YOU NEVER KNOW
11:01:18AM IF YOUR RENT WILL GO UP FIVE YEARS OR TEN YEARS OR WHAT HAVE
11:01:22AM YOU.
11:01:23AM WE HAVE BEEN RENTERS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
11:01:25AM AND MOST OF THOSE BUILDINGS ARE NOT IN GREAT SHAPE.
11:01:29AM IT HAS BEEN VERY LITTLE THAT THE TENANT CAN DO BECAUSE IT IS
11:01:34AM OWNED BY SOMEONE ELSE.
11:01:35AM AM AWAY OFF BASE OR LEADING WITH TOO MUCH?
11:01:39AM WHERE AM I AT.
11:01:40AM MY MIND IS THINKING REAL QUICK.
11:01:43AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVE DONE SOME OF WHAT
11:01:47AM YOU HAVE ASKED.
11:01:48AM WE HAVE DONE MARKET COMPARISONS WHAT IT WILL COST US TO RENT
11:01:52AM SPACE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE OCCUPYING NOW ON N. BOULEVARD,
11:01:56AM LEMON STREET AT THE GTE BUILDING.
11:01:59AM WE HAVE NOT YET DONE AN ANALYSIS OF THE EXACT SQUARE FOOTAGE
11:02:04AM TO GET FROM HANNA IN THAT PARTICULAR SQUARE FOOTAGE.
11:02:10AM WE HAVE DRAFTED IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS FINAL.
11:02:13AM WE DID A RENTAL SAVINGS ANALYSIS TO RENT THE EQUIVALENT OF
11:02:19AM N. BOULEVARD, GTE AND LEMON STREET.
11:02:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVEN THEY ARE SMALL IN COMPARISON TO SIZE
11:02:25AM OF HANNA.
11:02:27AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THERE ARE.
11:02:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE STUDY TO THE WHOLE THREE OR THE WHOLE
11:02:31AM COMPLEX?
11:02:31AM BECAUSE RENT -- THAT IS COMMERCIAL RENT.
11:02:33AM A DIFFERENT RATE THAN RESIDENTIAL RENT.
11:02:36AM SO IF POSSIBLE -- I AM NOT SAYING YOU GO THE TO DO IT, MAYBE
11:02:42AM HAVE SOME OF THE NUMBERS AVAILABLE IN THE FUTURE.
11:02:44AM AN IDEA WHAT IT IS.
11:02:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I LIKE TO BALANCE OUT THE BALANCE SHEET
11:02:51AM WHAT IT COSTS AND WHAT IT DOESN'T COST IF YOU GO RENT.
11:02:54AM AND I WOULD THINK THIS IS GOING TO COST MORE.
11:02:59AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I CAN SHARE THE LEMON STREET --
11:03:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME SAY THIS.
11:03:03AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
11:03:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I AM WRONG, THEN THE RENTS WILL NEVER
11:03:10AM FACILITATE THE BYE BUYOUT.
11:03:13AM YOU WILL NEVER BUILD ANYTHING.
11:03:14AM YOU WILL RENT IF IT IS CHEAPER.
11:03:16AM BUT IT IS NOT CHEAPER IN MY MIND BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW THEY
11:03:20AM HAVE A PROBLEM.
11:03:21AM IF THEY HAD A HOUSE, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
11:03:24AM THE PROBLEM IS, THERE WASN'T THE AVAILABILITY FOR THEM TO
11:03:28AM BUY A HOUSE.
11:03:28AM AND THEREFORE WHERE WE ARE AT, I AM COMPARING A SMALL THING
11:03:32AM WITH A BIG THING.
11:03:33AM AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS AND I HEARD A COMMENT,
11:03:37AM WELL, YOU CAN'T BUY A HOUSE BECAUSE YOU ARE BUILDING IN FOR
11:03:41AM SOMEBODY.
11:03:41AM LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, EVERY TIME YOU LOSE $100,000 LIKE
11:03:46AM HERE AND HERE.
11:03:47AM YOU THROW IT AROUND LIKE IT IS A DOLLAR.
11:03:49AM THAT HOUSE ISN'T GOING TO BE BUILT EITHER.
11:03:52AM I AM SAYING YOU HAVE TO TOUGHEN OUR BELT, ALL OF IT, AND
11:03:55AM HAVE A GOAL.
11:03:56AM WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE -- YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE FOR SOMEBODY.
11:03:59AM THEY CALL IT ATTAINABLE, RENTABLE, WORKFORCE.
11:04:04AM THEY HAD FIVE NAMES FOR IT.
11:04:06AM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT HOUSE IS BUILT.
11:04:15AM THAT HOUSE IS BUILT AND ACCOMMODATING WITH THE O&M OF THAT
11:04:19AM HOUSE AND PART OF IT IS SOLAR, NOW YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.
11:04:21AM SOMEONE WHO MAY BE ABLE TO AFFORD A COST OF PAYMENT, BUT
11:04:25AM THEIR ELECTRIC BILL WILL EAT THEM UP YOU CAN'T PAY THE
11:04:28AM ELECTRIC BILL.
11:04:28AM A CATCH-22 YOU ARE PUTTING YOURSELF IN.
11:04:31AM THAT IS WHY I MENTION IT BEFORE.
11:04:33AM SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE AND WHEN WE DO THESE THINGS IN
11:04:37AM THE F.A.R. THAT WE CONSIDER ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS --
11:04:40AM THAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS EXTRA, LET THEM PUT THE SOLAR IN SO
11:04:45AM THEY CAN BUILD ONE OR TWO MORE UNITS.
11:04:46AM SOMETHING THEY HAVE GOT TO BE DONE SO THAT HOUSE BECOMES
11:04:49AM MORE AMENABLE, MORE PAYABLE TO WHOMEVER IS GOING TO GET THAT
11:04:53AM HOUSE.
11:04:53AM TO BUILD A STRUCTURE IS AN EASY THING.
11:04:57AM TO MAINTAIN IT, THAT'S ANOTHER THING.
11:05:00AM YOU PUT SOLAR AND UNATTAINABLE THINGS, BETTER WINDOW SO THE
11:05:05AM AIR CONDITIONING DOESN'T GO OUT THE WINDOW AND DIFFERENT
11:05:08AM THINGS ARE DONE, YOU INSULATE IT BETTER.
11:05:10AM THAT INDIVIDUAL IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE HOUSE
11:05:13AM WITHOUT WORRIES TOO MUCH ABOUT THE FLUCTUATION IN RATES.
11:05:16AM I CAN TELL YOU THAT AND I WAS GREAT UNTIL LAST MONTH.
11:05:21AM AND SOMETHING HAPPENED WHEN I WAS USUALLY GETTING 500 AND
11:05:26AM SOME CREDITS VERSUS 700.
11:05:28AM ALL SUDDEN 1300 AND TECO GAVE ME FIVE.
11:05:36AM NO MORE THAN -- MAYBE THE SOLAR VANISHED.
11:05:40AM MAYBE IT DIDN'T WORK.
11:05:41AM MAYBE MY NEIGHBOR TOOK IT, WHICH I DON'T THINK THERE IS.
11:05:44AM BUT SOMETHING IS WRONG ALONG LINE AND ELECTRICITY WILL GET
11:05:49AM HART MARREDER AND HARDER AND HIGHER AND HIGHER IN COSTS FROM
11:05:54AM WHAT I SEE.
11:05:55AM I HEAR IT COMING UP.
11:05:56AM THE NEXT THING.
11:05:57AM I CAN'T CONTROL THE PRICE OF MEAT, FISH, EGGS, RICE,
11:06:02AM BANANAS.
11:06:02AM I CAN'T CONTROL ANY PRICE.
11:06:04AM AND IT IS HAPPENING EVERYWHERE.
11:06:05AM NOT ONLY IN HOUSES NOT ONLY IN BUYING A CAR AND MAINTAINING
11:06:11AM A CAR, BUT THE FOOD CHAIN THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY IS
11:06:15AM SOMETHING TO BE LOOKED AT.
11:06:16AM TOO MANY THINGS GOING ON.
11:06:18AM YES, I AGREE THAT THE CHICKEN FLU WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
11:06:24AM IT KILLED MILLIONS OF CHICKENS.
11:06:27AM 43 MILLION CHICKENS.
11:06:30AM THE PRICE OF EGGS NOW, YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO MAKE TWO
11:06:34AM SCRAMBLED EGGS.
11:06:35AM GETTING TO THE POINT THAT IT IS CAUSING SHAREDSHIP ON
11:06:42AM EVERYONE.
11:06:42AM AND BY THE WAY PEOPLE MAKING $100,000 A YEAR HAVE AN
11:06:45AM INCREASE OF 16% NOT BEING ABLE TO MEET THEIR NEEDS.
11:06:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:06:49AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APOLOGIZE IF I CAN AGAIN CLARIFY AND
11:06:55AM RESPOND.
11:06:56AM I WILL ENSURE THAT YOU GET THE RENT SAVINGS ESTIMATES FOR
11:07:02AM LEMON STREET, THE GTE BUILDING AND N. BOULEVARD.
11:07:05AM AND --
11:07:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LEMON STREET IS A DEAL WE WORKED WITH
11:07:09AM SOME OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCY.
11:07:11AM I THINK IT IS RENTED OUT FOR SOMETHING INSIGNIFICANT.
11:07:15AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: TALKING OF THE RENT SAVINGS WE -- I WILL
11:07:20AM SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
11:07:21AM WE ARE WORKING AN A COMPARABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE ANALYSIS OF
11:07:26AM THE NEW HANNA CITY CENTER.
11:07:28AM AGREE WITH YOU WITH THE COST OF ELECTRICITY BUT I REFER TO
11:07:32AM THE DEPARTMENT FOR OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE COST ESTIMATES.
11:07:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:07:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS NOT ON THIS COUNCIL WHEN THIS WAS
11:07:41AM APPROVED, BUT I WAS A MEMBER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
11:07:43AM WHO WAS AFFECTED.
11:07:44AM I SAT ON THE BOARD OF OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:07:46AM WE WERE INVITED WHEN THE MAIN PLAN GOT PUT OUT.
11:07:50AM AND ONE OF QUESTIONS I STOOD UP AND ASKED WAS, IS THIS
11:07:56AM BUILDING GOING TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE PEOPLE -- NEW EMPLOYEES
11:08:00AM FOR YOU KNOW, THE NEXT 20 YEARS OR SO.
11:08:04AM WILL IT HAVE ROOM FOR GROWTH?
11:08:07AM AND I WAS TOLD, YES.
11:08:08AM BUT NOW WE ARE FINDING THAT THERE IS NO ROOM THERE TO BRING,
11:08:14AM YOU KNOW, THE CRA STAFF IN.
11:08:16AM NO ROOM TO BRING FOLKS FROM THE WATER DEPARTMENT IN.
11:08:19AM WE -- WE ARE AT MAX CAPACITY.
11:08:23AM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN BE AT A MAX CAPACITY WHEN WE ARE
11:08:29AM NOT DONE WITH THIS BUILDING YET.
11:08:30AM WE ARE BEING TOLD NOT ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO THIS
11:08:33AM BUILDING.
11:08:33AM WE NEED TO RENT OTHER SPACE.
11:08:35AM AS A -- AS A -- NO, I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD.
11:08:41AM THAT WE ARE LOOKING -- DURING THE CRA MEETING WERE WE WERE
11:08:46AM TALKING ABOUT WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO GO.
11:08:48AM NO ROOM FOR THEM AT HANNA AVENUE.
11:08:50AM DO WE HAVE -- DO WE HAVE SPACE STILL IN THIS BUILDING?
11:08:55AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: ABSOLUTELY.
11:08:55AM I AM NOT SURE -- I AM SORRY YOU WERE MISINFORMED.
11:08:58AM I AM NOT SURE WHO TOLD YOU THAT.
11:09:01AM CRA WAS NEVER GOING TO THAT BUILDING AND THEY STILL ARE NOT.
11:09:04AM BUT EVERY USER DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH
11:09:07AM HAVE BUILT IN FOR GROWTH.
11:09:09AM AND THERE IS AMPLE SPACE IN THIS BUILDING.
11:09:12AM SO IF YOU COULD TELL ME WHO MISINFORMED YOU, I AM HAPPY TO
11:09:16AM SPEAK WITH THEM.
11:09:17AM BUT I WISH YOU WOULD HAVE SPOKEN WITH ME.
11:09:19AM I HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT AND I
11:09:23AM CAN ASSURE YOU, THERE IS SPACE THERE.
11:09:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SPACE TO PUT THE CRA STAFF.
11:09:29AM >> THE CRA STAFF WAS NEVER GOING THERE.
11:09:31AM WE HAVE SIX DEPARTMENTS GOING THERE AND CLEAR OF THOSE SIX.
11:09:34AM CRA WAS NEVER THERE.
11:09:36AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:09:37AM NICOLE TRAVIS, DIRECTOR OF ADMINISTRATIVE DEVELOPMENT AND
11:09:41AM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
11:09:42AM WHEN HANNA AVENUE WAS PLANNED FOR, THEY PLANNED FOR THE
11:09:46AM DIFFERENT WORK GROUPS.
11:09:47AM NEVER A CONSIDERATION AT THE TIME TO PUT CRA UNDER ONE ROOF
11:09:51AM AND FOR THAT TO BE HANNA AVENUE.
11:09:53AM WE JUST RECENTLY STARTED HAVING CONVERSATIONS WHICH I HAD
11:09:56AM WITH YOU LAST WEEK, BUT I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MISS COLINA
11:10:02AM TO SEE WHAT -- WHAT WE HAVE.
11:10:03AM THERE ARE DIFFERENT WORK GROUPS WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL
11:10:10AM BUILDING RIGHT NEXT DOOR THAT WILL HAVE HANNA AVENUE.
11:10:13AM A LOT OF SHUFFLING, BUT CRA IS NEVER PART OF IT TO GO TO
11:10:18AM HANNA OR PART OF IT TO GO TO HAND.
11:10:21AM THAT RIGHT NOW.
11:10:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MISS COLINA, HOW MUCH SPACE DO WE HAVE
11:10:25AM AVAILABLE FOR -- FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF?
11:10:29AM LIKE HOW MANY MORE STAFF CAN -- CAN CURRENTLY -- THE THOUGHT
11:10:32AM BE THAT WE HAVE THE -- THE SPACE TO HOUSE?
11:10:38AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: SO IF YOU ARE ASKING IN THE MAIN BUILDING,
11:10:40AM A TOTAL OF 161,000 SQUARE FEET IN THE MAIN BUILDING.
11:10:44AM ADDITIONAL SPACE IN THE FLEET AND FACILITIES BUILDING.
11:10:47AM AND EACH DEPARTMENT HAS PROJECTED THEIR GROWTH FOR FIVE
11:10:50AM YEARS.
11:10:50AM SO I CAN'T TELL YOU.
11:10:51AM I CAN'T GET THAT TO GRANULAR LEVEL HOW MANY SQUARE FEET PER
11:10:58AM DEPARTMENT.
11:10:58AM BUT EACH DEPARTMENT PART OF THE AMERICAN PLANS TO MOVE AND
11:11:03AM HAVE INCLUDED MOVING HAVE GROWTH FOR FIVE YEARS.
11:11:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:11:07AM HOW MAIN PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY MOVING THERE?
11:11:09AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: APPROXIMATELY 500 EMPLOYEES IN THE WHOLE
11:11:13AM COMPLEX.
11:11:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:11:14AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IF I MAY.
11:11:16AM FOR INSTANCE, HOUSING.
11:11:18AM THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT IS
11:11:20AM MOVING THERE.
11:11:20AM WE -- IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET CYCLE, WE ADDED NEW POSITIONS
11:11:25AM IN FISCAL YEAR '24.
11:11:28AM I ANTICIPATE ADDITIONAL HOUSING -- SO THE SPACE THAT WE DID
11:11:33AM PROJECT FOR GROWTH, THOSE NEW EMPLOYEES WOULD BE ABLE TO BE
11:11:37AM ACCOMMODATED AT HANNA.
11:11:38AM SAME IS TRUE FOR OUR -- OUR DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
11:11:44AM MANAGEMENT TEAM.
11:11:44AM YOU HAVE PLANNING.
11:11:46AM YOU HAVE CONSTRUCTION SERVICE.
11:11:48AM THOSE TEAMS ARE GROWING THROUGH FISCAL YEAR '23 AND '24.
11:11:51AM WE ARE ACCOMMODATING FOR THAT GROWTH IN HANNA AND THEY ARE
11:11:55AM ACCOMMODATED IN THE NEW BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW.
11:11:58AM TO MISS COLINA'S POINT THAT WE ANTICIPATED HOW WELL WE WILL
11:12:04AM GROW.
11:12:05AM WE WOULD GROW AS FAST AS WE NEEDED TO FOR HOUSING, BUT WE
11:12:08AM ARE STILL ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH FOR WHAT WE
11:12:10AM PROJECTED FOR OUR DEPARTMENTS IN THE HANNA BUILDING.
11:12:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:12:14AM MR. ROGERO, ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.
11:12:19AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
11:12:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ACTUAL NUMBER FOR THIS BEING AT $119
11:12:24AM MILLION.
11:12:25AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
11:12:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE $119 MILLION,
11:12:29AM HOW MUCH MORE SPACE THEN DO WE HAVE?
11:12:32AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WILL, AGAIN, REFER TO MISS COLINA, BUT I
11:12:36AM DON'T THINK WE ARE GETTING ANY ADDITIONAL SPACE.
11:12:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT SPACE, I AM SORRY.
11:12:39AM I AM TALKING ABOUT MONEY.
11:12:41AM IF -- IF YOU WERE SAYING THAT THERE IS $119 MILLION IN THIS
11:12:45AM BUCKET AND SOMEHOW THIS ONE -- THIS $3.
11:12:49AM 75 MILLION WILL BE PART OF THIS $119 MILLION, HOW MUCH IS
11:12:56AM THEN LEFT AS OUR CONTINGENCY, WIGGLE ROOM, WHATEVER.
11:13:00AM HOW MUCH MONEY IS LEFT IN THAT BUDGET?
11:13:03AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WILL HAVE TO CALCULATE THAT TO GIVE YOU
11:13:05AM AN ACCURATE NUMBER AND DISTRIBUTE IT TO YOU.
11:13:07AM I CAN CALL YOU OR SEND IT TO COUNCIL AS A WHOLE.
11:13:10AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:13:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHOOT, BUT -- MAYBE 10%?
11:13:14AM LIKE A ROUGH ESTIMATE?
11:13:15AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAZARD THE GUESS OUT OF
11:13:19AM THE RISK OF BEING INACCURATE.
11:13:21AM BUT I WILL.
11:13:23AM I WILL PROVIDE IT TO YOU.
11:13:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:13:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO WE ARE TALKING OF SPACE NOW.
11:13:31AM WE ARE TALKING OF ALL OF THOSE FOLKS MOVING OUT OF TMOB.
11:13:35AM AND WILL HAVE A LOT OF EMPTY SPACE OVER HERE.
11:13:40AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: WE WILL HAVE SOME SPACE IN TMA.
11:13:45AM PURCHASIN IS MOVING.
11:13:47AM EVO OFFICE IS MOVING.
11:13:49AM YES, SIR.
11:13:50AM WE HAVE WORKED TO TALKING OF MOVING CRA STAFF INTO THAT
11:13:54AM BUILDING.
11:13:54AM I HAVE BEEN WORKING AS MISS TRAVIS SAID CLOSELY WITH HER.
11:13:59AM WE ARE SHUFFLING FACE AROUND TO PUT OUR DEPARTMENTS WHERE
11:14:02AM THEY CAN BEST SERVICE OUR CUSTOMERS.
11:14:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHO ELSE IS MOVING INTO THAT BUILDING.
11:14:07AM ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS LEAVING OUT OF THERE, WHO IS LEAVING.
11:14:11AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: RIGHT NOW THE TWO DEPARTMENTS THAT I
11:14:14AM MENTIONED BELIEVING WE HAVE CRA STAFF COME.
11:14:17AM AND WE HAVE -- SOME EXPANSION IN THE BUILDING.
11:14:19AM STAFF -- GROWTH.
11:14:21AM THE SAME WAY THAT STAFF THAT IS MOVING TO HANNA OR THE
11:14:24AM DEPARTMENTS ARE MOVING TO HANNA, THE REMAINDER AT TMOV EACH
11:14:32AM FISCAL YEAR, THOSE DEPARTMENTS ADD AS WELL.
11:14:35AM WE HAVE A NEED FOR SPACE IN TVMOV.
11:14:43AM WE WILL LOOK AT THE SPACE.
11:14:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:14:48AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: YOU ARE WELCOME, COUNCILMAN.
11:14:52AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I HAVE SOMEONE THAT KNOWS FAR MORE OF BROWN
11:14:55AM FIELD REMEDIATION THAN I DO WHO CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
11:15:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOOD.
11:15:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
11:15:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS REAL FAST.
11:15:06AM I -- I THINK IT IS BET EVERY TO HAVE CRA OUTSIDE OF THAT
11:15:12AM BUILDING.
11:15:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 100% AGREE.
11:15:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: IN FACT, I THINK THEY SHOULD MOVE TO YBOR AND
11:15:19AM THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING AND A LOT HAPPENING THERE.
11:15:20AM BUT THAT IS A CRA DECISION.
11:15:23AM ON THE RENT, MR. ROGERO AND SEVERAL OF US WERE TRADING MEALS
11:15:28AM JUST BEHIND THE NAPKIN -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE O&M COSTS
11:15:33AM ARE OVER 30 YEARS, BUT YOU LOOK AT IT JUST -- JUST WITH
11:15:36AM ESTIMATED NUMBERS, IT LOOKS LIKE WE COULD HAVE SAVED A LOT
11:15:40AM BY REPRESENTING BUT AS I SAID IN THE MEMO, THAT DOESN'T
11:15:43AM INCLUDE THE CAPITAL VALUE OF WHATEVER THE BUILDING AND
11:15:46AM PROPERTIES WERE AT THE END.
11:15:47AM AND SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.
11:15:51AM WE CAN MAKE A MOTION AT SOME POINT.
11:15:53AM WHAT I COULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY WILL HIRE A LICENSE OR
11:15:59AM APPRAISER TO DO EVALUATION OF THE BUILDING.
11:16:01AM AND YOU KNOW, IF A LICENSED ACCREDITED APPRAISER --
11:16:08AM COMMERCIAL APPRAISER SAY BUILDING WORTH MORE THAN $120
11:16:14AM MILLION THEN WE HAVE A GREAT ASSET AND A LOT OF EQUITY AND A
11:16:19AM GREAT DECISION ABOVE WHATEVER THE REPRESENT WOULD HAVE COST.
11:16:22AM MR. ROGERO AND TRADING MEMOS OF THE RENTAL EQUIVALENCY AND
11:16:29AM AT THE END OF THAT CIRC LATE TO MY COLLEAGUES SO THEY CAN
11:16:33AM SEE THAT.
11:16:33AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
11:16:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK EVERYBODY FOR TRADING ALL THOSE
11:16:36AM NUMBERS BECAUSE GOOD TO GO THROUGH THE EXERCISE EVEN IN THE
11:16:40AM END IT WILL SHOW BETTER TO HAVE A BUILDING.
11:16:43AM BUT I WANT TO GO THROUGH THE INTELLECTUAL EXERCISE TODAY
11:16:46AM EXPLAIN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS WHILE THE DECISION WAS MADE.
11:16:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:16:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN GENERAL, WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS AREA
11:16:56AM -- NOT ONLY THE CITY OF TAMPA BUT THIS AREA, PEOPLE THAT I
11:16:59AM KNOW BUY A HOUSE BEFORE IT IS BUILT.
11:17:01AM THEY PUT THE DOWNPAYMENT.
11:17:03AM THE HOUSE GOES UP, THEY BUY THE HOUSE.
11:17:07AM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LIVE THERE.
11:17:09AM IF THEY HAVE THE DOWNPAYMENT MONEY OR OTHER MONEY TO SECURE
11:17:13AM THE LOAN, WITHIN SIX MONTHS, THIS THEY SELL THE HOUSE AND
11:17:16AM MAKE $50,000.
11:17:17AM SO THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO US?
11:17:21AM I DON'T NEED TO HIRE AN AOPERATIONER.
11:17:22AM I CAN TELL YOU IF I WAS IN TIMBUKTU, CHINA, I WOULD NEED AN
11:17:28AM APPRAISER BECAUSE IT WOULD BE GOING DOWN.
11:17:30AM BUT HERE, NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO RELOCATION ALL IN THE
11:17:34AM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND I AM NOT BRAGGING, BUT I AM
11:17:37AM TELLING YOU WHAT WE ARE FACING EVERY DAY AND THE STRUGGLES
11:17:40AM THAT WE HAVE.
11:17:40AM THE ROADS.
11:17:41AM THE HOUSING.
11:17:42AM SO MANY THINGS THAT COME WITH THIS.
11:17:43AM IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN.
11:17:46AM BECAUSE YOU ARE NUMBER ONE NOW.
11:17:51AM AND THE ROAD CAN'T GET WIDER.
11:17:53AM THE PIPES PROGRAM GOING TO MAKE IT EASIER TO FACILITATE THE
11:17:57AM WATER AND YOU FLUSH A TOILET IT GOES SOMEWHERE WITHOUT
11:18:00AM LEAKING IT ALL OVER THE PLACE THOSE THINGS ARE BEING DONE.
11:18:09AM THE REAL ESTATE MARKET WILL GO TO HELL, OR H-E DOUBLE HOCKEY
11:18:17AM STAKES.
11:18:17AM NEVER BUY ANYTHING BECAUSE NEVER GOING TO HAVE VALUE.
11:18:20AM THE REALITY IS THE INVESTORS THAT ARE SMART, BUY THE HOUSES,
11:18:25AM DON'T LIVE IN THEM, AND RESELL THEM BEFORE ANYBODY MOVES IN.
11:18:28AM AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
11:18:34AM I HAVE A PROBLEMS WITH IT.
11:18:35AM THE INVESTMENT IN THE CITY THAT THE PEOPLE COME IN AND MOST
11:18:41AM OF THEM DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE.
11:18:43AM THEY BUY IT WITH SPECULATION TO RESELL.
11:18:46AM LOOK AT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT IN DOWNTOWN IN HOUSING.
11:18:49AM THEY ARE NOT GOING FOR $50,000, $60,000, $70,000 A UNIT.
11:18:56AM THEY ARE GOING FOR HALF A MILLION, A MILLION, MILLION AND A
11:18:59AM HALF, TWO MILLION, THE BIG ONES.
11:19:01AM I CERTAINLY DON'T THAT CAPITAL.
11:19:06AM MOST OF US DON'T HAVE THAT CAPITAL BUT THEY ARE MAKING IT.
11:19:09AM YOU THINK THEY ARE SPENDING MONEY BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY
11:19:12AM ARE GOING TO LOSE MONEY?
11:19:13AM THESE INDIVIDUALS ALL HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE.
11:19:15AM THEY ARE NOT ROOKIES.
11:19:16AM THEY ARE SEASONED INDIVIDUALS.
11:19:19AM AND THE OPERATION OF REAL.
11:19:22AM AND WHEN YOU REALIZE THAT, HEY, I TONIGHT LIKE TO SPEND $120
11:19:29AM MILLION ON ANYTHING.
11:19:29AM YOU KNOW WHAT, IT IS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER AND HARDER
11:19:36AM FOR EVERYONE TO SURVIVE.
11:19:37AM RETRACE THAT $100,000.
11:19:42AM I SAW THAT IN ONE OF THE ARTICLES.
11:19:43AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN THE TAMPA TIMES OR WHICH ONE I SAW
11:19:48AM IT ON.
11:19:49AM SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE SAID IF NOBODY BUYS AND EVERYBODY
11:19:52AM RENTS, I GUESS EVERYBODY IS HAPPY.
11:19:54AM IS THAT WHAT I AM HEARING?
11:19:58AM HOW COME EVERYBODY DOESN'T RENT?
11:20:02AM HOW COME BUILDINGS ARE BOUGHT AND SOLD?
11:20:05AM HOW COME HOUSES ARE BUILT 20 YEARS LATER.
11:20:08AM LISTEN, I BOUGHT A HOUSE 100 YEARS AGO 1964 FOR $12,600.
11:20:15AM I CAN SELL IT NOW FOR $400,000.
11:20:17AM THE PROBLEM IS, I CAN'T BUY ANOTHER ONE FOR $400,000.
11:20:21AM THAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE.
11:20:22AM AND I LOVE MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:20:24AM SO MY NET GAIN IS ZERO.
11:20:26AM BUT IF I WERE AN INVESTOR, AND I HAD THREE OR FOUR OF THEM,
11:20:33AM AIN'T GOING TO BUY IT FOR $12,600, BUT $350,000 AND
11:20:39AM $375,000.
11:20:39AM AND JUST IN THE SPREAD OF 15%, 20% RATE THEY MAKE A FEW
11:20:45AM THOUSAND DOLLARS.
11:20:46AM $30,000 OR $40,000 EVERY TIME THEY BUY A HOUSE.
11:20:51AM THEY ARE CALLED FLIPPERS.
11:20:52AM THAT'S WHERE I AM AT.
11:20:54AM UNLESS I AM BLIND AND I DON'T SEE WHERE I AM GOING AND I
11:20:57AM DON'T SEE THE PRICES OF HOUSING COMING DOWN.
11:21:01AM EVEN THOUGH A MARKET THAT IS TABLE, WHICH IS FINE.
11:21:04AM THE PROPERTY VALUES IN THIS AREA TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IF THEY
11:21:10AM COME DOWN, IT WILL BE MINIMAL BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO GO
11:21:12AM BACK UP JUST LIKE THE STOCK MARKET.
11:21:16AM THE STOCK MARKET WAS FIVE YEARS AGO, SIX YEARS AGO AT
11:21:20AM 15,000.
11:21:21AM NOW 34,000 AND THE PEOPLE ARE NERVOUS IT WENT DOWN 500
11:21:25AM POINTS.
11:21:26AM THE SAME ONE AT 15 HAD IT AT 34 AND STILL NOT HAPPY.
11:21:29AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY WANT, H-E DOUBLE HOCKEY
11:21:37AM STICKS.
11:21:37AM WHAT IS IT THAT THEY WANT?
11:21:40AM BUT THANK YOU.
11:21:40AM ANYONE ELSE.
11:21:42AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE MORE THING, MR.
11:21:45AM CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY.
11:21:45AM TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S QUESTION REGARDING THE INFLATION
11:21:49AM REDUCTION ACT.
11:21:50AM YOU KNOW REPRESENTATIVE KATHY CASTOR WAS INSTRUMENTAL ON
11:21:55AM THAT.
11:21:55AM AND IT WAS INTENDED FOR CITIES LIKE TAMPA TO RECOUP THOSE
11:21:59AM FUNDS.
11:21:59AM AGAIN, WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH HER.
11:22:01AM AND I WANT TO JUST REMIND EVERYONE THAT IF THIS CHANGE ORDER
11:22:06AM ISN'T PASSED AND IF YOU -- THERE IS STILL A COST AT THIS
11:22:10AM POINT.
11:22:10AM IN GOOD FAITH, THOSE SOLAR PANELS HAVE ALREADY BEEN
11:22:13AM PURCHASED.
11:22:14AM THERE IS A RESTOCKING FEE.
11:22:15AM WE HAVE ALREADY PAID ENGINEERS ON HOW TO APPROPRIATELY AFFIX
11:22:19AM THESE TO THOSE STRUCTURES.
11:22:21AM SO I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AS WELL AND THAT IS
11:22:27AM ALL I HAVE, THANK YOU.
11:22:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:22:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: A QUICK QUESTION FOR MR. ROGERO.
11:22:34AM IF WE WERE TO GET THAT MONEY BACK, WHERE WOULD IT GO?
11:22:37AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WHICH PARTICULAR MONEY, THE BROWN FIELD
11:22:39AM REMEDIATION.
11:22:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: $1.4 MILLION FOR OIL AND $1.5 MILLION FOR SOIL
11:22:46AM REMEDIATION.
11:22:47AM IF WE GOT THAT BACK, WHAT BUCKET WOULD IT END UP IN.
11:22:51AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: END UP IN THE HANNA PROJECT BUCKET.
11:22:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:22:55AM WHEN THE HANNA PROJECT BUCKETS -- WHEN THE PROJECT IS DONE,
11:23:01AM WOULD THAT MONEY GO BACK TO PAYING BACK DEBT OR --
11:23:06AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I SEE WHERE YOU ARE GOING WITH THIS
11:23:08AM QUESTION.
11:23:08AM WE WILL BRING A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL, BUT, YES, IT
11:23:11AM COULD GO TO ANY NUMBER OF PURPOSES.
11:23:13AM ONE IT WAS FREE AND CLEAVER OF THE PROJECT ITSELF AND IN SO
11:23:18AM MUCH IT WASN'T ASSOCIATED WITH THE DEBT FUNDING.
11:23:21AM DEBT IS NOT THE -- IT IS THE PRIMARY FUNDING SOURCE, BUT NOT
11:23:26AM THE ONLY FUNDING SOURCE.
11:23:28AM FOR INSTANCE, UTILITY SERVICES TAX ALSO FUNDED THIS PROJECT.
11:23:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO COULDN'T BE USED ELSEWHERE BUT USED FOR
11:23:39AM THE HANNA PROJECT.
11:23:40AM BUT WILL IDEALLY BRING DOWN THE COST.
11:23:43AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
11:23:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
11:23:47AM THE EV CHARGING STATION, ONE OF THE TWO TALKING POINTS ABOUT
11:23:50AM THESE MONIES.
11:23:52AM I MADE THE MOTION FOR THAT.
11:23:55AM IF WE ARE GOING BE A RESILIENT CITY AND CUT OUR CARBON
11:24:01AM FOOTPRINT AND SOME OF OUR FLEET, HOPEFULLY MAJORITY OF OUR
11:24:05AM FLEETS WILL GO EV.
11:24:07AM I WOULD GLADLY MAKE THAT MOTION AGAIN.
11:24:09AM FORMER COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER WHO WANTED THE SOLAR PANELS ON
11:24:13AM TOP OF THIS BUILDING AND THE CONVENTION CENTER AFTER ITS
11:24:18AM REMODEL AND OTHER GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS AROUND THE CITY OF
11:24:23AM TAMPA WAS A BRILLIANT IDEA.
11:24:24AM AND YOU SUPPORTED HIM ON THAT.
11:24:28AM AND I WOULD DO IT AGAIN.
11:24:30AM IF WE ARE GOING TO BE A RESELL YENT, CLEAN ENERGY CITY AND
11:24:34AM CUT OUR CARBON FOOTPROPONENT.
11:24:37AM LAST WEEK -- OR THE WEEK BEFORE WHEN I MADE MY COMMENTS OF
11:24:40AM HAVING CRA AT THIS BUILDING, IT WASN'T FOR CRA STAFF, A
11:24:45AM MEETING PLACE FOR ALL THE MEETINGS BOARDS, COMMITTEES AND
11:24:49AM COMMISSIONS.
11:24:50AM THIS BUILDING IS NOT A MONOLITH THICK STERILE BUILDING.
11:24:55AM HOUSE A WELLNESS CENTER, GREEN SPACE AND MEETING ROOMS.
11:25:02AM SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST A STERILE BUILDING HOUSING OUR WORK
11:25:06AM FORCE.
11:25:06AM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
11:25:12AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:25:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:25:16AM I STAYED QUIET AND I LISTENED.
11:25:20AM I WILL MOVE THIS RESOLUTION.
11:25:22AM BETWEEN THIS AND PIPES.
11:25:24AM HISTORICAL INVESTMENT.
11:25:26AM NOT JUST OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:25:28AM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LEGACY, HERE IT IS.
11:25:31AM I UNDERSTAND THE COST SAVINGS AND WE WILL GET A BETTER
11:25:35AM ANALYSIS OF RENTING VERSUS BUYING.
11:25:37AM I WILL UNDERSTAND.
11:25:38AM I WILL UNDERSTAND MOVING AND CONSOLIDATING TO ANA AVENUE THE
11:25:43AM BENEFITS OF IT.
11:25:44AM SO WITH THAT, I MOVE THIS RESOLUTION.
11:25:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:25:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO
11:25:52AM MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR FILE NUMBER BZP 23-79607.
11:25:59AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:26:01AM A ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:26:03AM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:26:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:26:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:26:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:26:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:26:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: AS I SAID BEFORE,THIS WAS ORIGINALLY TWO
11:26:16AM BUILDINGS FOR $100 MILLION AND WENT TO $108 MILLION.
11:26:20AM NOW $120 MILLION.
11:26:21AM I AM IN FAVOR OF EV AND SOLAR AND COMPLETELY REJECT THE
11:26:26AM OVERALL MASSIVE COSTOVER RUNS.
11:26:29AM NOT CHEAPER THAN RENTAL.
11:26:31AM AND WE MAY BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY IT BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE TO
11:26:35AM RELOCATE AT SOME POINT, BUT I DON'T THINK THE PROPER DUE
11:26:40AM DILIGENCE WAS DONE.
11:26:40AM I AM AGAINST ANY COST INCREASE OF THIS EXPENSIVE BUILDING
11:26:45AM AND I VOTE NO.
11:26:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR IT BECAUSE EXPENSES
11:26:49AM HAVE ALL BEEN REALLY BEEN INCURRED WITH THE PURCHASE AND THE
11:26:54AM HIRING OF PEOPLE TO INSTALL TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK.
11:26:57AM I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT TODAY.
11:26:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:27:01AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
11:27:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:27:06AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:27:08AM >>ADRIANA COLINA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:27:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:27:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, REQUEST THAT WE GET
11:27:15AM THAT UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH OF THE $119 MILLION HAS
11:27:21AM ALREADY BEEN ENCUMBERED AND WHAT'S FREE.
11:27:24AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
11:27:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:27:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:27:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO DENNIS, JEAN OR WHOEVER MAY BE
11:27:32AM WATCHING.
11:27:32AM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO IN OUR WORKSHOP, WE HAD AN UPDATE ON
11:27:36AM THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT PROGRAM.
11:27:37AM I WAS JUST LOOKING JUST NOW ON SIRE AND I CAN'T FIND ANY
11:27:41AM BACKUP DOCUMENTS ON SIRE TO THAT.
11:27:45AM A POWERPOINT THAT I FOUND, BUT ALSO A DOCUMENT THAT WAS
11:27:49AM MOSTLY A WRITTEN DOCUMENT THAT HAD BUDGETS IN IT.
11:27:53AM CAN YOU PLEASE SOMEBODY CIRCULATE THAT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL
11:27:59AM ELECTRONICALLY.
11:27:59AM I SEARCHED AND SEARCHED AND COULDN'T FIND THAT DOCUMENT.
11:28:03AM IT WAS HANDED OUT TO THE MEETING.
11:28:05AM I THINK THE POWERPOINT SHOULD BE ADDED TO SIRE IF NOT
11:28:10AM ALREADY.
11:28:12AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CERTAINLY, SIR.
11:28:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCIL, WE ARE AT 11:30.
11:28:20AM AND HARD STOP AT 12:00.
11:28:22AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-79838.
11:28:30AM >>BRAD BAIRD: GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR
11:28:41AM OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:28:41AM TALK ABOUT ITEM 7, WHICH IS A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE OF
11:28:46AM $44.7 MILLION WITH KIEWIT INFRASTRUCTURE SOUTH COMPANY FOR
11:28:54AM THE CONSTRUCTION OF PIPELINE REPLACEMENT IN FOUR
11:28:57AM NEIGHBORHOODS INCLUDING FOREST HILLS, VIRGINIA PARK,
11:29:01AM McFARLAND PARK AND EAST TAMPA.
11:29:04AM WE HAVE WRITTEN A MEMO ON IT.
11:29:06AM AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON IT.
11:29:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
11:29:12AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:29:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS JUST WATER,
11:29:17AM CORRECT?
11:29:18AM >>BRAD BAIRD: CORRECT, 99%.
11:29:20AM A SMALL AMOUNT OF STORMWATER IN FOREST HILLS.
11:29:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:29:24AM WAS THIS ALWAYS PLANNED TO BE JUST A WATER?
11:29:28AM >>BRAD BAIRD: NO IT IS NOT.
11:29:30AM THREE YEARS AGO WHEN THIS PROJECT STARTED IT INCLUDED
11:29:32AM IMPROVEMENTS IN TRANSPORTATION, STORMWATER AND WASTEWATER,
11:29:37AM AS WELL AS WATER.
11:29:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WHY AREN'T WE DOING THE COMPLETE PROJECT?
11:29:43AM >>BRAD BAIRD: BOTTOM LINE IS LACK OF FUNDING.
11:29:45AM THE FUNDING FOR THE TRANSPORTATION WAS TO COME FROM ALL FOR
11:29:56AM TRANSPORTATION, THE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT
11:29:59AM PROGRAM HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACTED BECAUSE OF LAST
11:30:02AM SUMMER, S.W.F.W.M.D.
11:30:13AM AND WE CONTINUED ON FOR QUITE A BIT OF THE PIPES.
11:30:17AM AT THIS PACE, WE PLAN TO MOVE SOME OF THE PIPELINE THAT WERE
11:30:21AM IN THE ALLEY TO THE STREET; HOWEVER, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO
11:30:27AM WE FOUND SOME ISSUES AND LEAKS AT OUR PLANT AT
11:30:36AM HOWARD CURRAN.
11:30:38AM AND THAT PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED FOR THREE TO FOUR
11:30:40AM YEARS FROM NOW.
11:30:41AM HAD TO BE MOVED UP AND THEN MOVED IN PROJECT OUT, IF YOU
11:30:48AM WILL, FOR THE ALLEY REPLACEMENTS.
11:30:53AM ABLE TO CONTINUE ON WITH THE PIPE BURSTING FOR WATER AND DO
11:30:56AM THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:30:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THIS MEANS THEN THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE
11:31:03AM TEARING UP THE ROAD TWICE IN.
11:31:05AM >>BRAD BAIRD: NO, PIPE BURSTING DOES NOT INVOLVE TEARING UP
11:31:08AM THE ROAD.
11:31:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH.
11:31:10AM >>BRAD BAIRD: WHAT IT WILL MEAN IS FOR -- ESPECIALLY FOR
11:31:14AM TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER, THEY TENDED TO BE LOWER
11:31:19AM PRIORITIES THAN OTHER PROJECTS THEY HAVE ON THE LIST.
11:31:22AM SO WE DO EVENTUALLY GET FUNDING IN THOSE AREAS AGAIN.
11:31:27AM WE WILL, YOU KNOW, PROPERLY PRIORITIZE THEM AND MAYBE SOME
11:31:31AM OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE MADE, BUT YEARS IN THE FUTURE.
11:31:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO IN THE MEANTIME, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN
11:31:37AM TO THE SEWER?
11:31:39AM >>BRAD BAIRD: IN THE MEANTIME, THIS IS THE FINAL WORK ON IT.
11:31:42AM WE ARE FINISHING UP GMP 3 AND 4, WHICH IS WATER -- SORRY,
11:31:48AM WASTEWATER PIPELINING.
11:31:51AM AND OTHER WATER REPLACEMENT WE CALL EARLY WORKS.
11:31:55AM AND THIS WILL BE THE FINAL WORK IN ALL FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:31:58AM AND IT IS PROJECTED TO TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS TO DO THIS WORK.
11:32:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:32:03AM WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS INSTEAD OF MOVING THE SEWER LINES
11:32:07AM FROM THE ALLEYS INTO THE ROADWAY, WE ARE SIMPLY GOING TO BE
11:32:11AM LINING THE PIPES?
11:32:13AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:32:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:32:16AM >>BRAD BAIRD: WE DID RE TV THOSE LINES AND WERE ABLE TO
11:32:21AM SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE COST ON THAT AND LINE THOSE LINES
11:32:24AM IN THE ALLEY.
11:32:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:32:26AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:32:29AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEE I KNEW IN MY HEART THIS WAS GOING TO
11:32:33AM HAPPEN.
11:32:33AM I SAID THIS.
11:32:34AM SO YOU CAN'T -- WHAT I CALL, YOU CAN'T GAUGE MY POCKET.
11:32:39AM AND I SAID THAT.
11:32:44AM I SAID THAT YOU ARE BANKING ON ALL THE TRANSPORTATION MONEY.
11:32:47AM YOU ARE PUTTING IT IN BUDGETS.
11:32:49AM ADDING DOLLAR AND CENTS IN THE BUDGET.
11:32:51AM I SAID WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T GET THAT MONEY?
11:32:55AM AND IT IS TWICE YOU AIN'T GETTING THAT MONEY.
11:32:57AM SO NOW HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RE-EVALUATE ALL OF THESE
11:33:02AM PROJECTS NOW?
11:33:04AM BECAUSE NOW YOU ARE COMING TO US.
11:33:06AM THE QUESTION IS, AGAIN, WHAT HAPPENS?
11:33:08AM NOW YOU -- YOU SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS.
11:33:11AM AND WE WERE GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE YOU CALCULATED DOLLARS
11:33:15AM THAT YOU DON'T HAVE.
11:33:16AM AND I SAID THAT.
11:33:18AM WHY WOULD YOU CALCULATE MONEY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE?
11:33:22AM TO ME, THE CRAZIEST BUDGETING SCHEME EVER.
11:33:25AM IF I DON'T GOT IT, I AM HOPING I AM GOING TO GET IT AND
11:33:30AM HOPING I CAN PAY FOR IT?
11:33:32AM BAD BUSINESS PRACTICE.
11:33:33AM IF I DON'T GOT IT, I CAN'T PAY FOR IT.
11:33:36AM THAT IS ONE PROBLEM.
11:33:38AM 44, THAT IS A BIG NUMBER, MAN.
11:33:45AM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY.
11:33:47AM I AM NOT GOING INTO A WHOLE SPIEL.
11:33:49AM GET THAT STRAIGHT.
11:33:52AM BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT, YES, WE HAVE A SCHEMATIC OUTLINE WE
11:33:57AM ARE TRYING TO UTILIZE FOR OUR EVO BUT AT SOME POINT, WE NEED
11:34:02AM TO TELL PEOPLE THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
11:34:05AM NOTHING WRONG WITH TELLING PEOPLE THAT THIS IS WHERE WE NEED
11:34:07AM TO BE.
11:34:08AM TO JUSTIFY IN MONEY AND I GOT THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY GOING TO
11:34:12AM THE PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM, PEOPLE QUESTION THOSE.
11:34:15AM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AND A CONVERSATION WITH MR. HART.
11:34:18AM WE NEED TO TELL PEOPLE WE HAVE A THRESHOLD THAT WE REALLY
11:34:22AM NEED TO MEET.
11:34:23AM I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT, BRAD, BUT UPSETS ME THAT WE HAVE
11:34:26AM PROJECTS IN TRANSPORTATION WHICH WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET
11:34:30AM THAT MONEY.
11:34:31AM THE ONLY UPSETTING PART.
11:34:32AM I KNEW THAT WOULD HAPPEN.
11:34:35AM >>BRAD BAIRD: UNDERSTOOD.
11:34:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:34:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO I THINK WHAT I SAID WHEN WE TALKED OF
11:34:42AM THE TRANSPORTATION BUDGET A FEW MONTHS AGO, I DON'T THINK WE
11:34:45AM WILL GET THAT IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
11:34:46AM CIT IS COMING UP.
11:34:48AM A LEADERSHIP IN TALLAHASSEE THAT WILL NOT ALLOW IT.
11:34:52AM NO MOVEMENT IN CONSULTANTS TRYING TO WORK WITH THE
11:34:55AM OPPOSITION IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND PLAN OUR FUTURE OVER
11:35:01AM THE NEXT FOUR TO EIGHT YEARS WITHOUT THAT MONEY.
11:35:04AM AND IF IT COMES IN, THAT WILL BE BONUS.
11:35:06AM THE PIPES PROJECT, STORMWATER AND PIPES -- THE PUBLIC
11:35:11AM SUPPORT BOTH OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND WOULD LIKE THE PROGRAM TO
11:35:14AM MOVE AS QUICK AS POCK WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DISRUPTION.
11:35:18AM I TALKED TO JEAN DUNCAN OF BOB'S BARRICADES BEING LEFT IN A
11:35:24AM LOT OF PLACES.
11:35:24AM FOR SOME REASON, BAYSHORE BY BAY-TO-BAY HAVE BEEN DOWN DOWN
11:35:29AM FOR TWO WEEKS.
11:35:30AM ANOTHER AREA BY BEACH PARK THAT HAS BEEN SHUT DOWN.
11:35:34AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CONTRACTORS MOVE THAT STUFF AS
11:35:37AM QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY OVER TAXED ON
11:35:41AM TRANSPORTATION.
11:35:42AM AND SOME WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO OPEN THINGS UP.
11:35:44AM THE PUBLIC SUPPORTS THIS.
11:35:46AM SO I WOULD -- I WILL VOTE YES ON THIS.
11:35:50AM BUT I WILL ASK YOU TO PLEASE BE SENSITIVE TO THE TRAFFIC
11:35:54AM NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND MOVE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
11:35:56AM THANK YOU.
11:35:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
11:35:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:36:00AM >> SECOND.
11:36:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FILE
11:36:07AM NUMBER BZP 23-79838 BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:36:10AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:36:13AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:36:15AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:36:16AM MOTION PASSES.
11:36:17AM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:36:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9.
11:36:29AM SORRY AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, FILE NUMBER CM 22-78934.
11:36:37AM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: GOOD MORNING, BRANDON CAMPBELL, SMART
11:36:43AM MOBILITY MANAGER REPRESENTING THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
11:36:44AM ITEM 10 IS AN ISSUE ABOUT THE TRAFFIC COMING FROM TRADER'S
11:36:50AM JOE'S AND AFFECTING THE INTERSECTION OF DALE MABRY
11:36:57AM AND SWANN.
11:36:57AM UPLOADED A MEMO THAT ADDRESSES THE HISTORY OF THAT SITE,
11:37:00AM SOME THE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US, AND SOME OF THE
11:37:04AM ZONING COMPLIANCE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED.
11:37:06AM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
11:37:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
11:37:12AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:37:13AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THE MEMO.
11:37:16AM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY.
11:37:17AM I DON'T WANT TO CREATE ANOTHER ISSUE BECAUSE THAT ROAD
11:37:20AM DOESN'T BELONG TO US AND WE ARE TALKING OF WHAT TRADER JOE'S
11:37:23AM IS TRYING TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
11:37:25AM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER PLAN YOU COME UP WITH FOR
11:37:28AM THE TIME BEING, IT DOESN'T CREATE ANOTHER PROBLEM FOR THE
11:37:34AM COMMUNITY.
11:37:34AM FROM WHAT I AM HEARING IF YOU DIVERT IT IN COMMUNITIES, THAT
11:37:39AM WOULD BE A PROBLEM AND MINDFUL.
11:37:42AM >> UNDERSTOOD AND THE OPTION IN THE MEMO THAT COUNCILMAN
11:37:45AM GUDES WAS REFERRING TO WAS THE POTENTIAL TO LIMIT THEIR
11:37:49AM DRIVEWAY TO RIGHT-IN, RIGHT-OUT ONLY.
11:37:54AM NOT BEFORE ENGAGING WITH THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THERE ARE
11:37:56AM SOME ANCILLARY IMPACTS ROUTING PEOPLE THROUGH THE
11:38:00AM NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT SORT OF THING.
11:38:02AM NEARBY DRIVEWAYS AS WELL.
11:38:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:38:06AM I NEVER BEEN TO TRADER'S JOE'S UNTIL THREE OR FOUR MONTHS
11:38:11AM AGO.
11:38:11AM I NEVER REALLY HAD THE TIME REALLY.
11:38:13AM BUT WHAT I SAW THERE WAS WOW.
11:38:17AM AND IT LOOKED LIKE A BEE LIVE WITH PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT
11:38:21AM AND THIS TIME THE BEES WEREN'T THERE BUT THE CARS WERE JUST
11:38:24AM MOVING AROUND AND I WAS AMAZED THERE WASN'T MORE ACCIDENTS
11:38:27AM OR LIKELY -- HOPEFULLY THERE WEREN'T ANY AND I HAVEN'T
11:38:31AM CHECKED THAT.
11:38:32AM IS THERE A WAY -- LOOKING AT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT -- IS
11:38:35AM THERE A WAY WHEN YOU TAKE A BUSINESS IN.
11:38:37AM AND THAT ONE WAS ALREADY ZONING DIDN'T HAVE TO CHANGE.
11:38:44AM WHEN THEY BOUGHT IT, THEY WERE ENTITLED TO GO THERE.
11:38:47AM THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE THERE.
11:38:49AM GOING IN THE FUTURE AND SOMETIMES WE PASS THINGS IN THE
11:38:52AM COUNCIL AND THEY SAY WE WANTED TWO-SPACE REDUCTION.
11:38:55AM ANY WAY LEGALLY THAT IF WE SAY, YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE A
11:38:59AM TWO-SPACE REDUCTION, BUT IF THOSE TWO SPACES CREATES A
11:39:03AM PROBLEM THAT NOW YOU HAVE MORE PARKING THAN YOU CAN HANDLE,
11:39:07AM YOU GOT TO SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
11:39:10AM IN OTHER WORDS, THE CONTRACTS THAT WE SIGN AND DEVELOPMENTS
11:39:14AM ARE ONE WAY.
11:39:15AM I AM THINKING BASED ON WHAT THE GENTLEMAN JUST SAID, SHOULD
11:39:19AM THERE BE A LINE IN THERE THAT IF YOU GO OVER THE ASSIGNED
11:39:24AM THING AND THOSE TWO SPACES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE NOW BECOME A
11:39:28AM PROBLEM.
11:39:28AM WHY BLAME IT ON US.
11:39:30AM YOU ARE THE ONE THAT RECOMMENDED IT TO US AND YOU SAID IT
11:39:33AM WAS FINE.
11:39:33AM EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE COPACETIC.
11:39:35AM BUILD A NEW BUILDING, AND YOU DON'T NEED PARKING BECAUSE THE
11:39:40AM MILLENIALS WILL ALL RIDE BICYCLES.
11:39:43AM THAT IS WHAT I WAS BEEN HEARING.
11:39:46AM I AM NOT OPPOSED TO MILLENIALS RIDING.
11:39:52AM >>> BICYCLES.
11:39:52AM WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
11:39:55AM >> I AM ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:39:59AM WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED, THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL PARKING
11:40:04AM NEEDED.
11:40:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I SAID THAT.
11:40:05AM >> RIGHT.
11:40:06AM SO WHEN WE -- WE CAN'T GO BACK TO CHANGE THAT.
11:40:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BUT I AM USING THIS LOCATION AS AN
11:40:16AM EXAMPLE TO WHAT WE CAN DO IF SOMETHING NEEDED CHANGE.
11:40:19AM >> SO --
11:40:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE DO WAIVER PARKS.
11:40:24AM WE WAIVER A LOT OF PARKS.
11:40:27AM >> RIGHT, BUT THAT IS MORE OF A --
11:40:31AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ZONING QUESTION.
11:40:32AM ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
11:40:35AM I THINK WHAT YOU ARE ASKING IS WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE ZONING
11:40:39AM CASES WHERE THEY ARE ASKING FOR PARKING WAIVERS, COULD YOU
11:40:43AM HAVE SOME SORT OF CONDITION THAT -- OF HOW TO REOPEN OR IF
11:40:47AM -- IF PROBLEMS RESULTED AS A RESULT OF THE WAIVER.
11:40:50AM SO, YES, I MEAN, THAT WOULD NECESSITATE DRAFTING A CONDITION
11:40:56AM ASSUMING YOU ARE TALKING OF A PD, ZONING SITE PLAN APPROVAL
11:41:01AM WHERE SOMEONE IS ASKING FOR A WAIVER.
11:41:03AM YES, WE CAN LOOK INTO DRAFTING SOME SORT OF CONDITION THAT
11:41:07AM WOULD REOPEN THE WAIVER WITHIN SOME TIME PERIOD IF PARKING
11:41:13AM ISSUES DEVELOPED.
11:41:14AM AT THE TIME OF WHICH TRADER JOE'S -- WHEN TRADER JOE'S
11:41:19AM CAME IN, THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO REZONE.
11:41:22AM SO THE PARKING ON THE SITE WAS THE PARKING ON THE SITE.
11:41:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN WE SEE IN A PLAN --
11:41:29AM I AM NOT ANTI-DEVELOPMENT.
11:41:31AM I THINK -- IF PEOPLE KEEP MOVING HERE, THEY ARE GOING TO
11:41:34AM HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE.
11:41:35AM THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE -- ALL THE PARKING THAT WE SEE
11:41:38AM DOWNTOWN HAS BEEN ADEQUATE TO SOME DEGREE.
11:41:41AM AND WHEN I SEE COMING IN THAT CUT THE PARKING BY 15% TO
11:41:47AM 20%.IT'S INCUMBENT THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE HIT IF THAT
11:41:52AM HAPPENS TO BE A MISCALCULATION.
11:41:55AM NOT THAT THEY DID IT INTENTIONALLY BUT A
11:42:00AM MISCALCULATION AND WE ARE THE ONES LOOKING AROUND FOR
11:42:03AM ADDITIONAL PARKING SOMEWHERE.
11:42:04AM WHY IS THE BURDEN PUT ON THE TAXPAYERS.
11:42:07AM IF THAT PORTION IS NOT GREAT ENOUGH TO CONTAIN THE PARKING
11:42:12AM REQUIREMENTS, SO THAT SIZE, WHY SHOULD WE BE RESPONSIBLE?
11:42:18AM THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING.
11:42:20AM THAT'S ALL.
11:42:20AM JUST AN IDEA ON WHAT I LEARNED TODAY FROM TRADER JOE'S.
11:42:25AM I AM NOT BLAMING TRADER JOE'S FOR MY THOUGHT, BUT IT CAME TO
11:42:30AM MIND BECAUSE OF TRADER JOE'S.
11:42:33AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WE CAN LOOK WHETHER THAT WILL BE -- I WOULD
11:42:36AM CAUTION A CONDITION LIKE THAT THAT HAD A REOPENER, YOU KNOW.
11:42:40AM OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT WILL HAPPEN FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD
11:42:46AM AFTER THE SITE WAS CONSTRUCTED AND EVERYTHING WAS BUILT.
11:42:52AM I AM THINKING OUTLOUD.
11:42:54AM THE REOPENER WILL ADDRESS THE PARKING DEFICIENCY IN SOME
11:42:59AM OTHERWAYS LIKE OFF-SITE PARKING.
11:43:01AM IN ANY EVENT, WE WILL GET PUSH BACK FROM THE APPLICANTS AND
11:43:05AM SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK INTO AND SEE IF IT IS FEASIBLE.
11:43:09AM >> I WILL A MAKE A MOTION 60 DAYS, 70 DAYS.
11:43:13AM I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS.
11:43:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS ZELMAN, DON'T GO ANYWHERE, BECAUSE I
11:43:23AM WILL HAVE A QUESTION.
11:43:24AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:43:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO RESPOND TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:43:29AM I SPOKE TO A GROUP OF U.T. STUDENTS, 20, 40.
11:43:35AM GENERATION ZERS THAN MILLENIALS.
11:43:40AM WE HAVE THIS QUESTION OF PARKING.
11:43:41AM HOW MANY HAVE CARS, ALMOST EVERYONE EXCEPT TWO HAVE CARS.
11:43:45AM I SAID IF YOU WERE GOING DOWNTOWN, HOW MANY WOULD DRIVE
11:43:49AM VERSUS TAKING A SCOOTER OR BIKE, ALL BUT TWO OR THREE SAID
11:43:53AM THEY WOULD DRIVE FROM U.T. TO DOWNTOWN.
11:43:56AM GIVES YOU A PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON.
11:43:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY QUESTION FROM LAST TIME STILL HAVEN'T
11:44:04AM BEEN ANSWERED.
11:44:05AM WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THEIR DRIVEWAY; HOWEVER, THE
11:44:09AM TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT IS AFFECTING OUR STREET SWANN.
11:44:13AM THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE TELLING ME, CALLING ME, SAYING THAT
11:44:17AM THE TRAFFIC HEADED EAST IS BACKING UP ALL THE WAY TO CHURCH
11:44:22AM STREET.
11:44:22AM TRAFFIC HEADED WEST IS BACKING UP THROUGH DALE MABRY.
11:44:27AM CAN WE NOT MAKE THEM PAY FOR AN OFFICER TO BE OUT THERE
11:44:33AM DIRECTING TRAFFIC WHERE IF PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE THAT LEFT-HAND
11:44:37AM TURN INTO TRADER JOE'S, THE OFFICER CAN WAVE THEM ON TO STOP
11:44:43AM ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC JAMS THERE.
11:44:45AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I AM NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING IN OUR CODE THAT
11:44:48AM WILL GIVE US THE RIGHT TO REQUIRE THAT.
11:44:49AM SO I THINK MOBILITY COULD TALK OF OTHER WAYS TO REDIRECT
11:44:55AM TRAFFIC OR WHATEVER, BUT NOTHING IN OUR CODE THAT WOULD GIVE
11:44:58AM US THE ABILITY TO ASK AN EXISTING BUSINESS TO PROVIDE THAT
11:45:02AM KIND OF EXTRA SECURITY.
11:45:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM TOLD THAT THE TRAFFIC JAMS ARE TYING UP
11:45:10AM DALE MABRY AND SWANN, SWANN, AND CHURCH.
11:45:13AM OKAY, THANK YOU.
11:45:14AM I HAVE MY QUESTION ANSWERED.
11:45:16AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, CM22-78781.
11:45:21AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: GOOD AFTERNOON -- MORNING AGAIN.
11:45:40AM ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
11:45:43AM I TOLD THE CHIEF THAT I THOUGHT WE WOULD BE SONNY AND CHER
11:45:46AM ON THIS.
11:45:47AM BOTH ITEMS 12 AND 13.
11:45:49AM WE COMBINED OUR RESPONSES BECAUSE IT REALLY WAS TALKING OF
11:45:54AM THE SAME ISSUE, THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS.
11:45:57AM SOME HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE MEMO.
11:45:59AM I THINK IT IS PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
11:46:03AM WE PROVIDED A CHART SHOWING CURRENT STATUS OF THOSE
11:46:09AM EMPLOYEES WHO ARE REQUIRED TO RESIDE AND BE AN ELECTOR IN
11:46:14AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:46:16AM WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT WITHIN THE MEMO ABOUT THE HISTORICAL
11:46:20AM THAT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS ADMINISTRATION WHICH,
11:46:24AM AGAIN, IS THE FIRST ADMINISTRATION TO EVEN HAVE THE WAIVER
11:46:30AM ABILITY, THANKS TO OUR CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND THE
11:46:33AM VOTERS.
11:46:33AM SINCE THE BEGINNING OF ADMINISTRATION, WE HAD 16 INDIVIDUALS
11:46:39AM WHO SAW THE RESIDENCY WAIVERS.
11:46:42AM SINCE THAT TIME, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE MAYOR'S
11:46:45AM ADMINISTRATION MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE HAVE MOVED INTO THE
11:46:51AM CITY.
11:46:51AM THREE LEFT THE CITY TWO OF WHICH LEFT BECAUSE OF THE
11:46:59AM RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS.
11:47:00AM THAT'S BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT STATUS, YOU HAVE
11:47:04AM A FEW PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL SERVING UNDER A WAIVER BECAUSE
11:47:08AM THEY CAME MORE RECENTLY AND ARE STILL ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE A
11:47:12AM RESIDENCY WAIVER.
11:47:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:47:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
11:47:19AM PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD SO THE PUBLIC WILL SEE.
11:47:23AM I LIKE THE CHART -- TWIST IT AROUND.
11:47:28AM IT IS SIDEWAYS BUT IT IS VERY CLEAR VERY CLEAR WHERE
11:47:37AM EVERYBODY STANDS AND THE CHARTER ALLOWING TWO ONE-YEAR
11:47:40AM EXTENSIONS.
11:47:41AM AFTER THAT, IT'S DONE.
11:47:42AM BUT THE QUESTION I HAVE BESIDES JUST MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC
11:47:45AM SEES IT BECAUSE A LOT OF QUESTIONS IS THE RESIDENCY THAT I
11:47:52AM UNDERSTAND IT FROM YOUR MEMO IS SELF-REPORTED AND A AT LEAST
11:47:57AM ONE INCIDENT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS -- NOT NAMING ANY NAMES,
11:48:01AM ALLEGATION THAT SOMEONE LIVED IN AN ADDRESS THAT WAS NOT IN
11:48:04AM CITY BUT HAD AN ADDRESS OF A RELATIVE WHERE THAT PERSON DID
11:48:09AM NOT LIVE AS A RESIDENCY IN TAMPA.
11:48:17AM WONDER WHO WITH YOU WE POLICE THIS AND IF WE REALIZE THAT
11:48:22AM SOMEONE IS NOT RESIDING IN THE CITY LIKE THEY SAY THEY ARE.
11:48:27AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:48:30AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:48:32AM DURING THE ONBOARDING PART, WE LEARNED MORE OF THE
11:48:35AM METICULOUS -- KEEPING RECORDS BETWEEN THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE
11:48:40AM AND HUMAN RESOURCES.
11:48:41AM EVERY YEAR WHEN YOU REGISTER FOR KNOW YOUR ROLE, EVERY
11:48:44AM EMPLOYEE IN THE CITY HAS TO INFORM OF US OBVIOUSLY WHERE
11:48:48AM THEY LIVE.
11:48:48AM WHAT THEIR RESPONSE CAPABILITIES ARE.
11:48:50AM A LOT OF CHECKS AND BALANCES IN THE ONBOARDING PROCESS OF
11:48:54AM THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
11:48:57AM NOW THAT THEY HAVE THE STRENGTH AND THE TICKLER LIST OF
11:49:02AM PEOPLE ON WAIVER WHEN THEY DO CHANGE ADDRESSES, WE WILL BE
11:49:05AM ABLE TO PROACTIVELY MAKE SURE THEY EITHER MOVED IN DURING
11:49:10AM THE WAIVER PERIOD AND I AGREE WITH ANDREA.
11:49:12AM THANKS TO THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, CITY COUNCIL, THE
11:49:15AM PUBLIC, EVERYBODY WHO OFFERED THOSE WAIVERS SO FOLKS CAN
11:49:19AM TRANSITION INTO THE CITY.
11:49:20AM BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF CHECKS AND BALANCES.
11:49:22AM ONE THING I AM DOING WITH KELLY AUSTIN'S TEAM IS WE ARE
11:49:27AM STARTING TO DO A LOT OF PRESCRIPTIVE HOUSEKEEPING ON ANNUAL
11:49:35AM REVIEW DATES AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS TO MAKE SURE THE
11:49:38AM ADDRESSES WHERE WHERE THEY ARE ACROSS THE CITY FOR FORBID IF
11:49:45AM WE HAVE AN INCIDENT INVOLVING CITY STAFF.
11:49:47AM WE NEED TO REUNIFY STAFF OR WITH THEIR LOVED ONES.
11:49:56AM A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO ON WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
11:49:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU CROSS-CHECK IT WITH HOMESTEAD
11:50:04AM EXEMPTION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:50:06AM >>JOHN BENNETT: WE DO RELY ON THE INDIVIDUAL TO DO THAT.
11:50:08AM I HAD TO TAKE MYSELF OFF HOMESTEAD MYSELF WHEN I MOVED IN
11:50:12AM THE CITY.
11:50:15AM THAT IS ON THE INDIVIDUAL.
11:50:16AM IT IS A GOOD QUESTION ABOUT -- I THINK WE CAN PUT THAT ON
11:50:19AM THE CHECK LEST NOW THE RESIDENCY.
11:50:26AM BUT WE GUIDE THEM TO TALK TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER TO
11:50:31AM UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT.
11:50:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: SOME PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THINK BE SHOULD
11:50:39AM ARE RESIDENCY, AND PEOPLE WHO SAY WE HAVE IT, WE SHOULD
11:50:46AM REINFORCE IT.
11:50:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:50:50AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: QUESTIONS.
11:50:51AM I LOOKED AT THE CHART, I WROTE MY NOTES.
11:50:53AM THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
11:50:56AM HOW MANY DO THEY SUPERVISE?
11:50:59AM HOW MANY EMPLOYEES IN THE DEPARTMENT?
11:51:02AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WILL SWAG IT.
11:51:03AM I WOULD SAY 300.
11:51:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SOLID WASTE.
11:51:08AM >>JOHN BENNETT: HUNDREDS.
11:51:09AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN I LOOK AT THE CHART AND I KNOW FROM
11:51:13AM MEMORY, I DON'T SEE CODE ENFORCEMENT ON THERE.
11:51:19AM HAD HOW MANY EMPLOYEES?
11:51:22AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WANT TO SAY ABOUT 100.
11:51:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CODE ENFORCEMENT, IF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS
11:51:27AM ARE EQUAL TO 100, WHY WILL IT BE A MANAGER OR DIRECTOR.
11:51:32AM I HAVE TO REQUEST THAT QUESTION.
11:51:34AM >>JOHN BENNETT: A VERY GOOD QUESTION HOW DEPARTMENTS AND
11:51:39AM COMMITMENTS ARE ORGANIZED.
11:51:41AM STAFF SUPERVISED.
11:51:43AM 1300.
11:51:44AM FIRE DEPARTMENT OVER 700.
11:51:46AM PARKS AND REC OVER 300 WITH MULTIPLE DIVISIONS.
11:51:51AM SO A COMBINATION OF A TOTAL NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, NUMBER OF
11:51:53AM DIVISIONS, THOSE THINGS.
11:51:55AM I WORKED IN TWO MAJOR GOVERNMENTS AND I NEVER SEEN CODE
11:52:00AM ENFORCEMENT AS A STAND-ALONE DEPARTMENT.
11:52:04AM THEY ARE BOTH DIVISIONS, BIG DIVISIONS BUT DIVISION OF A
11:52:10AM DEPARTMENT.
11:52:11AM IT IS HOW THE CITY IS ORGANIZED.
11:52:13AM WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER CITIES.
11:52:15AM OUR SIZE, MIAMI, ST. PETE, ORLANDO, AND SEE IF THEY STAND
11:52:19AM ALONE.
11:52:19AM IN OUR CASE, IT IS ALWAYS A DIVISION THAT I AM AWARE OF.
11:52:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: KIND OF MY POINT.
11:52:27AM IF THAT WAS RECENT LEAP CHANGED AND LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.
11:52:32AM I AM SAYING THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE, SOME OF YOUR OWN
11:52:36AM DIRECTORS ARE REQUESTING IF WE HAVE THESE TYPE OF CHANGES,
11:52:39AM AND I HAVE THESE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND WHY IS THE NAME
11:52:43AM CHANGE DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS?
11:52:46AM SO A VALID POINT THAT SOME WILL MAKE.
11:52:48AM THEY DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE
11:52:53AM OSTRACIZED.
11:52:55AM THAT IS QUESTION I HAVE TO ASK MYSELF.
11:52:58AM IF CODE ENFORCEMENT HAVE THAT MANY EMPLOYEES TO MATCH UP TO
11:53:02AM ANY OF THESE DIRECTORS ON HERE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE
11:53:06AM WOULD BE A NAME CHANGE.
11:53:07AM I THINK THAT IS A VALID QUESTION TO ASK GOING FORWARD.
11:53:10AM I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
11:53:15AM MAKE CHANGES AND IF I AM DIRECTOR AND I HAVE THIS MANY
11:53:20AM EMPLOYEES AND THIS PERSON IS A MANAGER.
11:53:21AM GETTING THE SAME TYPE OF SALARY AS ME, I WILL HAVE A
11:53:25AM PROBLEM.
11:53:25AM I AM THINKING I NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND NOT BRING UP OLD
11:53:29AM ISSUES BUT FOR ME THAT IS A PROBLEM AND I THINK THAT NEEDS
11:53:32AM TO BE ADDRESSED AND LOOKED AT IN THE FUTURE.
11:53:35AM >>JOHN BENNETT: YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT.
11:53:37AM ONE THING THAT I CHALLENGED MIKE SWAIN'S OFFICE AND KELLY'S
11:53:42AM OFFICE WAS TO LOOK AT THE STRATIFICATION OF DIRECTORS.
11:53:45AM WHAT IS INTERESTING, AGAIN, BEING IN TWO MAJOR GOVERNMENTS,
11:53:48AM EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE CALLED A DIRECTOR AS A WORKING TITLE.
11:53:51AM AND, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THE DISPARITY BETWEEN A WORKLOAD
11:53:55AM OF A MANAGER, A DIVISION DIRECTOR, A FULL DEPARTMENT
11:53:59AM DIRECTOR, ADMINISTRATOR, THEY ARE ALL UNIQUE SCALES.
11:54:03AM SO WE ARE TRYING TO CREATE A METHODOLOGY THAT DOES EXACTLY
11:54:06AM WHAT YOU SAY.
11:54:07AM AND SAYS, OKAY, EITHER HAVE THIS MANY BODY OS ARE THIS MUCH
11:54:11AM OF A BUDGET OR THIS MUCH RESPONSIBILITY AND MAKE SURE IT IS
11:54:15AM EQUITABLE ACROSS THE CITY.
11:54:17AM WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS NOW THAT HAVE DIVISIONS THAT
11:54:20AM MAY NOT HAVE 100 BODIES BUT THEY HAVE A BIG RESPONSIBILITY
11:54:24AM IN THE CITY.
11:54:24AM AND IT COULD BE ONE OF THE MAJOR PARTS OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN
11:54:29AM AND THOSE SHOULD BE LOOKED AT AS DIVISION DIRECTORS OR
11:54:33AM PROGRAM DIRECTORS.
11:54:34AM A WORK NO PROGRESS, BUT ALL VERY WELL TAKEN IN GOOD POINTS.
11:54:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:54:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
11:54:41AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:54:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T KNOW IF THIS HAS BEEN MENTIONED.
11:54:44AM THIS IS OFF-TOPIC.
11:54:46AM AN ITEM -- I WANT TO ASK THAT IT BE MOVED UP.
11:54:49AM AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY.
11:54:51AM IT WAS -- ITEM 82.
11:54:53AM I WILL TELL YOU WHY.
11:54:54AM A LITTLE GIRL IN THE BACK WITH HER FATHER AND OTHER PEOPLE
11:55:01AM AND I KNOW THEY HAVE TO GO IS IT POSSIBLE BEFORE LUNCHTIME.
11:55:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FINAL COMMENT ON THESE TWO THINGS WHEN I WAS
11:55:13AM FIRST DISCUSSING IN I WANTED DEPARTMENT HEADS TO BE LIVED IN
11:55:19AM CASE OF STATE OF EMERGENCY, NATURAL DISASTER, TERROR
11:55:23AM INCIDENT OR WHATEVER SO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS COULD BE AT
11:55:26AM THE EOC, THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER.
11:55:29AM AND THEN I STARTED THINKING THAT IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY LIVING
11:55:34AM AT 275 AND ADAMO DRIVE, IT IS FOUR MILES?
11:55:40AM THAT IS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
11:55:42AM BUT YET IF YOU HAVE A DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT LIVES IN THE
11:55:45AM FARTHEST POINT OF NEW TAMPA, THAT IS 12 MILES?
11:55:50AM WHO IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS
11:55:52AM CENTER QUICKER?
11:55:54AM JUST MY TWO CENTS.
11:55:56AM YES, LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 84.
11:56:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:56:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED
11:56:08AM BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:56:09AM IN ALL A FAVOR.
11:56:11AM AYE.
11:56:11AM COULD ANYBODY BE GIVEN TESTIMONY AT ANY TIME DURING THESE
11:56:14AM HEARINGS TO PLEASE RISE, RAISE YOUR RIGHT AND AND BE SWORN
11:56:20AM IN.
11:56:20AM [SWEARING IN]
11:55:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:56:30AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 84.
11:56:34AM FILE NUMBER AB2-22-21.
11:56:42AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:56:44AM THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AB2 PERMIT, SPECIAL USE 2.
11:56:50AM THIS APPLICATION WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY COUNCIL ON
11:56:53AM JANUARY 26th MEETING.
11:56:55AM SINCE THEN, WE HAVE SUBMITTED ALL RECOMMENDED SITE PLAN
11:56:58AM REVISIONS TO STAFF.
11:57:00AM WE HAVE RECEIVED NO PUBLIC COMMENT, AND WE HOPE TO GAIN YOUR
11:57:04AM APPROVAL.
11:57:04AM THANK YOU.
11:57:04AM I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:57:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOUR NAME PLEASE.
11:57:07AM >> MICHAEL De MAYO.
11:57:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
11:57:10AM YOUR PRESENTATION?
11:57:11AM >> YES, IT DOES.
11:57:12AM I HAVE MR. HORN HERE IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER ANY
11:57:16AM QUESTIONS AS WELL ABOUT THE BUSINESS, WHICH I BELIEVE WE
11:57:19AM ADDRESSED ON JANUARY 26.
11:57:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OF THE PETITIONER?
11:57:22AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO NUMBER 84,
11:57:27AM FILE AB2-22-21?
11:57:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
11:57:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:57:33AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:57:35AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:57:36AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:57:37AM I JUST HAVE ONE.
11:57:39AM AS I STATED PRIOR, YBOR CITY DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER PACKAGE
11:57:44AM STORE.
11:57:44AM I KNOW YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS GOING TO BE HIGH END AND I'LL
11:57:47AM LEAVE IT THERE.
11:57:48AM ROLL CALL VOTE -- EXCUSE ME, PLACE YOUR VOTES.
11:57:50AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:57:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:57:55AM READING AND ADOPTION.
11:57:56AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
11:57:59AM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES
11:58:03AM AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL
11:58:07AM THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER,
11:58:10AM WINE AND LIQUOR AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT
11:58:13AM OF LAND LOCATED AT 1730 EAST 7TH AVENUE AS MORE PARTICULARLY
11:58:17AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR
11:58:20AM PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN
11:58:22AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:58:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:58:23AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:58:24AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
11:58:27AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
11:58:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU'VE GOT TO WAIT TO SEE HOW EVERYBODY
11:58:32AM VOTED.
11:58:32AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:58:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF AND ASSISTANT CHIEF, I KNOW YOU CAME
11:58:40AM IN HERE FOR THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, BUT WE HAVE A HARD STOP AT
11:58:43AM 12:00.
11:58:44AM WE WILL RESUME BACK AT 1:30.
11:58:47AM WE ARE RECESSED.
11:58:47AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
1:31:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.
1:31:47PM ROLL CALL.
1:31:49PM >> CARLSON?
1:31:50PM VIERA?
1:31:50PM MANISCALCO?
1:31:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
1:31:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
1:31:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
1:31:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
1:31:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
1:31:54PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:31:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
1:31:58PM WE ALREADY DID THAT.
1:32:08PM I BELIEVE WE ARE ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, FILE NUMBER
1:32:12PM CM23-79623.
1:32:21PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: GOOD AFTERNOON, ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY
1:32:23PM ATTORNEY.
1:32:24PM OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS THE DRAFT ORDINANCE REGARDING HIRING OF A
1:32:29PM LEGAL ADVISOR FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
1:32:32PM IF YOU'LL INDULGE ME, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, IN ORDER TO
1:32:39PM UNDERSTAND THE ROLE OF THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD ATTORNEY,
1:32:43PM IT'S MORE THAN THAT EVERYONE WHO IS OPINING ON THIS
1:32:47PM UNDERSTANDS THE ROLE OF THE CRB ITSELF.
1:32:52PM JUST AS A REMINDER, UNDER THE ORDINANCE THAT CREATED THE
1:32:55PM CRB, THE CRB REVIEWS CLOSED INVESTIGATIONS OF POLICE
1:32:58PM OFFICERS.
1:32:59PM IT PROVIDES A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER THE CRB CONCURS
1:33:04PM WITH THE DISCIPLINE THAT WAS IMPOSED OR DOESN'T CONCUR.
1:33:09PM UNDER THE ORDINANCE, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SUBMIT A
1:33:12PM COMPLAINT TO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE STANDARDS AND TRAINING
1:33:14PM COMMISSION IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES AS PROVIDED BY THE CODE
1:33:18PM AND THE FLORIDA STATUTES.
1:33:20PM AS THE ORDINANCE WAS LAST AMENDED, THEY ALSO HAVE A ROLE
1:33:25PM PARTICIPATING IN THE HIRING PROCESS FOR POLICE OFFICERS.
1:33:29PM THEY REVIEW A MONTHLY LIST OF COMPLAINTS MADE ABOUT POLICE
1:33:32PM OFFICERS.
1:33:34PM THEY CONDUCT AN ANNUAL COMMUNITY SURVEY, AND THEY MAY ASK TO
1:33:38PM REVIEW MATTERS OF IMPORTANCE OR INTEREST.
1:33:40PM WHAT THEY CANNOT DO IS IMPOSE ANY DISCIPLINE THEMSELVES.
1:33:45PM THERE IS A POLICE OFFICERS' BILL OF RIGHTS IN THE STATE OF
1:33:48PM FLORIDA, AND THAT PRECLUDES ANY CITIZENS REVIEW PANEL IN THE
1:33:56PM STATE FROM DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.
1:34:01PM BUT, AGAIN, THEY CAN'T THEMSELVES IMPOSE DISCIPLINE.
1:34:05PM WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE CRB ATTORNEY?
1:34:07PM THE CRB ATTORNEY IS THERE TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE TO THE CRB AS
1:34:12PM TO THE PROCEDURES TO BE FOLLOWED AT THE MEETING.
1:34:15PM THEY ENSURE THAT PROPER NOTICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR THE
1:34:18PM MEETING.
1:34:19PM THEY PREPARE RESOLUTIONS, TRAINING MATERIALS, AND AMENDMENTS
1:34:23PM TO THE RULES OF PROCEDURE AS NECESSARY.
1:34:25PM WHEN THE CRB WANTS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE POLICE
1:34:30PM CHIEF, THEY WOULD PREPARE THAT.
1:34:32PM THEY HELP MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE MEETING.
1:34:35PM FOR INSTANCE, AGAIN, AS AMENDED IN 2021, THE BOARD MEETS IN
1:34:40PM EACH OF THE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS ONE TIME EACH YEAR, AND
1:34:43PM THEY HELP FACILITATE THAT.
1:34:46PM BUT WHAT THE CRB ATTORNEY DOESN'T DO IS ADVOCATE A POSITION,
1:34:51PM DOESN'T GIVE OPINIONS ON MATTERS BEFORE THE CRB.
1:34:55PM DOESN'T TRY TO GUIDE OR INFLUENCE THEM AS TO WHAT THEIR
1:34:59PM FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS SHOULD BE.
1:35:02PM THAT'S NOT THEIR ROLE, JUST AS MARTY, WHEN HE SITS WITH YOU,
1:35:06PM DOESN'T TELL YOU WHAT YOUR OPINION ON A MATTER SHOULD BE.
1:35:08PM HE JUST TRIES TO HELP GUIDE YOU INTO HOW TO EXPRESS THOSE
1:35:15PM OPINIONS OR MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OR WHATEVER.
1:35:17PM SO I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO COUNTER THE SUGGESTION
1:35:23PM THAN AN ATTORNEY MAY IMPOSE HIS OR HER BIAS ON THE BOWL.
1:35:28PM THAT'S NOT THEIR ROLE AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY ARE THERE TO
1:35:31PM DO.
1:35:32PM AGAIN, IN 2021, YOU ALL AMENDED THE CODE TO REQUIRE THAT THE
1:35:36PM CRB ATTORNEY BE AN ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY WHO DOES NOT ALSO
1:35:40PM ADVISE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
1:35:42PM SO SINCE THAT ORDINANCE WAS ENACTED, WE'VE HAD SOMEONE WHO
1:35:46PM DOES NOT IN ANY WAY REPRESENT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, SIT
1:35:50PM WITH THE CRB.
1:35:51PM NOW, GOING TO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT I'VE PROVIDED YOU, I
1:35:55PM KNOW THAT SOME OF YOU ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE, YOU'RE RIGHT,
1:35:59PM THE MOTION WAS FOR ME TO PREPARE A MOTION SAYING THAT AN
1:36:05PM OUTSIDE ATTORNEY WOULD BE HIRED.
1:36:07PM I ADDED LANGUAGE SAYING SHOULD THE CRB VOTE TO HIRE AN
1:36:13PM ATTORNEY, AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY WOULD BE HIRED AS FOLLOWS.
1:36:18PM THE REASON WHY I DRAFTED IT THAT WAY IS IN PREPARING TO
1:36:22PM WRITE THIS ORDINANCE, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID WAS GO BACK
1:36:25PM AND WATCH VIDEOS OF CRB MEETINGS.
1:36:28PM AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVE NEVER ATTENDED IT OR WATCHED IT, I
1:36:32PM WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO, BECAUSE, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE
1:36:35PM GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT A STAFF MEMBER FOR THE CRB DOES,
1:36:38PM YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CRB DOES.
1:36:41PM SO I WATCHED THESE MEETINGS.
1:36:43PM ONE OF THE MEETINGS I WATCHED WAS THE ONE WHERE THEY WERE
1:36:48PM ASKED BY THIS COUNCIL WHETHER THEY WANTED AN OUTSIDE
1:36:52PM ATTORNEY.
1:36:52PM AND IT WAS A PRETTY HEATED DISCUSSION, AND THERE WERE PEOPLE
1:36:56PM TALKING ABOUT THE FISCAL IMPACT OF IT, PEOPLE COULDN'T
1:37:00PM UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD WANT AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY.
1:37:05PM ULTIMATELY THEY VOTED 6-2 AGAINST HAVING AN OUTSIDE
1:37:08PM ATTORNEY.
1:37:09PM AND EVEN DR. COLLINS, WHO WAS ONE OF THE TWO NO VOTES, WHICH
1:37:15PM MEANT, YES, SHE WAS VOTING TO HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL, SAID, I
1:37:18PM DON'T THINK WE NEED ONE NOW, BUT THERE MAY COME A TIME IN
1:37:21PM THE FUTURE WHEN ANOTHER BOARD WANTS ONE AND SO I WANT THEM
1:37:25PM TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HIRE ONE.
1:37:27PM SO I WROTE IT WITH THAT SPIRIT IN MIND.
1:37:31PM I ALSO THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE THE DISCUSSION WAS TO
1:37:35PM GIVE THE CRB MORE INDEPENDENCE, IT SEEMED TO ME TO MAKE
1:37:39PM SENSE TO LET THEM BE THE ONES TO DECIDE THIS, JUST AS YOU
1:37:46PM DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU PERCEIVE AS THE ADMINISTRATION TELLING
1:37:50PM YOU WHAT TO DO, I GOT THE SENSE WATCHING THE CRB MEETING,
1:37:54PM THEY DON'T LIKE THIS COUNCIL CONSTANTLY TELLING THEM WHAT
1:37:57PM THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO.
1:37:59PM SO THAT WAS PART OF THE SPIRIT.
1:38:01PM I DO THINK THAT JAMES MICHAEL SHAW MADE A GOOD SUGGESTION
1:38:06PM THAT IF IT IS GOING TO BE A VOTE OF THE CRB, IT SHOULD BE A
1:38:09PM MAJORITY OF THE CORE OF THOSE PRESENT AS LONG AS THERE IS A
1:38:13PM QUORUM RATHER THAN A MAJORITY OF THE CRB.
1:38:17PM SO IF WE LEAVE IT WITH THE VOTE IN PLACE, I THINK THAT IS A
1:38:20PM GOOD CHANGE, IF YOU ALL WANT TO CHANGE IT TO THE OTHER WAY,
1:38:27PM WE CAN REWRITE IT.
1:38:28PM BUT I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY I DRAFTED IT THAT WAY.
1:38:31PM NOW, WITH REGARD TO THE PART OF IT WHERE I GO INTO GREAT
1:38:36PM DETAIL ABOUT THE HIRING PROCESS AND SAY THAT SOLICIT
1:38:40PM APPLICATIONS, LET ME BACK UP.
1:38:43PM UNDER OUR CHARTER, THE CITY ATTORNEY MANAGES AND CONTROLS
1:38:48PM ALL LEGAL MATTERS OF THE CITY.
1:38:50PM THEY ARE THE OFFICIAL LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY.
1:38:52PM OUR OFFICE, THE CITY ATTORNEY, HAS COMPLETE DISCRETION
1:39:00PM HIRING ALL THE OUTSIDE COUNSEL THAT THE CITY USES.
1:39:04PM THE ONLY THING WE WOULD DO, THE ONLY ROLE THE COUNCIL HAS IS
1:39:09PM WHEN WE GET YOU TO APPROVE AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL'S CONTRACT.
1:39:12PM BUT IT'S OUR DISCRETION WITH THAT RFQ, MUCH MISUNDERSTOOD
1:39:19PM RFQ WHERE WE BROUGHT TO YOU A LIST OF ELIGIBLE LAW FIRMS
1:39:23PM WITH $100,000 CAP, AGAIN, HAVE TO REMIND YOU, NOT FUNDED,
1:39:28PM THAT JUST GAVE US THE ABILITY TO HIRE OUTSIDE COUNSEL WHEN
1:39:34PM WE NEED SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE OR NEED CONFLICT COUNSEL OR
1:39:39PM WHATEVER, THOSE CONTRACTS HAVE NOW BEEN PREAPPROVED.
1:39:43PM I COULD TOMORROW JUST HIRE ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS THAT IS
1:39:46PM ALREADY ON THAT LIST FOR THE CRB AND NOT GIVE YOU ALL ANY
1:39:50PM SAY IN IT OR THE CRB ANY SAY IN IT.
1:39:53PM WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO BY CREATING THIS HIRING PROCESS WAS
1:40:00PM TREAT THIS ISSUE WITH THE GRAVITY THAT I THOUGHT WITH WHICH
1:40:06PM YOU WOULD WANT IT TO BE TREATED, YOU KNOW, SETTING SOME
1:40:09PM MINIMUM CRITERIA.
1:40:10PM LETTING THE CRB REVIEW THE APPLICATIONS, AND IF THEY WANT TO
1:40:14PM INTERVIEW THE INDIVIDUALS AND THEN HAVE THEM MAKE A
1:40:18PM RECOMMENDATION TO ME OR WHOEVER THE CITY ATTORNEY IS, RATHER
1:40:21PM THAN THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST HIRING SOMEONE.
1:40:24PM SO IT KIND OF STRIKES ME AS A LITTLE BIT ODD THAT I'M BEING
1:40:30PM CRITICIZED FOR PUTTING THAT KIND OF A PROCESS IN PLACE WHEN
1:40:35PM REALLY ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS GIVE THE COUNCIL AND THE
1:40:40PM BOARD MORE INVOLVEMENT IN THE HIRING PROCESS THAN YOU WOULD
1:40:44PM OTHERWISE HAVE.
1:40:45PM AGAIN, UNDER THE CHARTER, NORMALLY I JUST -- OR WHOEVER THE
1:40:50PM CITY ATTORNEY IS, JUST HIRES AT THEIR OWN DISCRETION.
1:40:53PM THAT'S HOW THE OTHER CONTRACTS READ.
1:40:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TAKE A BREATH.
1:41:01PM I BELIEVE THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS A QUESTION.
1:41:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO GO BACK TO THAT FIRST PART.
1:41:10PM THE ORDINANCE WAS NOT WRITTEN TO MY QUESTION.
1:41:14PM I DID NOT WANT YOU TO GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE CRB.
1:41:18PM CRB MEMBERS ARE GOING TO CHANGE.
1:41:20PM THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF THIS.
1:41:21PM THE POINT OF THIS IS TO SET UP PARAMETERS FOR THE CRB
1:41:24PM WHOEVER IS THERE THAT THEY CAN FOLLOW.
1:41:26PM SO, NO, I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT, AS THE MAKER OF THIS MOTION
1:41:31PM WANT ANY OPTION.
1:41:35PM LIKE, THIS IS GOING TO BE -- WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN
1:41:38PM INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY, LIKE THIS IS NOT AN OPTION THAT THEY
1:41:41PM ARE GOING TO VOTE ON BECAUSE THE MEMBERS ARE GOING TO
1:41:43PM CHANGE.
1:41:44PM THEY'LL VOTE IT UP, VOTE IT DOWN, THEY'LL GO BACK AND FORTH.
1:41:47PM SO I THINK IT'S BEST TO JUST MAKE THAT DECISION BECAUSE THEY
1:41:51PM ARE NOT ELECTED OFFICIALS OR CITY ADMINISTRATION STAFF.
1:41:55PM WE ARE.
1:41:55PM SO I'M VERY STRONG ON THAT.
1:41:59PM THEY ARE NOT PERMANENT.
1:42:01PM WE'VE OBVIOUSLY SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON OUTSIDE COUNSEL, SO
1:42:04PM THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR ME.
1:42:06PM I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.
1:42:07PM I THINK THE IDEA OF ALLOWING CRB MEMBERS THEN TO CHOOSE
1:42:15PM SOMEONE FOR THEMSELVES BY LOOKING AT APPLICATIONS.
1:42:19PM I THINK THAT WORKS AND WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
1:42:23PM AGAIN, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE STRENGTH OF MY ACTUAL
1:42:26PM ORDINANCE, WHICH WAS SELECTING A LEGAL COUNSEL WHO IS NOT A
1:42:30PM CITY EMPLOYEE, NOT IF THEY WANT ONE.
1:42:33PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: OKAY.
1:42:34PM IF I COULD JUST FINISH AND THEN WE COULD GO THROUGH THE
1:42:36PM ORDINANCE.
1:42:37PM I JUST WANTED TO FINISH SOME OF MY OTHER REMARKS.
1:42:40PM I KNOW YOU ALL RECEIVED THE E-MAIL FROM JAMES MICHAEL SHAW
1:42:45PM OF THE ACLU.
1:42:46PM ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT HE MADE IS THAT SOMEHOW I'VE
1:42:52PM CREATED A PROCESS WHERE I'D HAVE THE ABILITY TO, QUOTE,
1:42:54PM SCREEN OUT ATTORNEYS WHO ARE NOT ALIGNED WITH MY VIEWS.
1:42:58PM I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
1:42:59PM AGAIN, I'VE CREATED A PROCESS THAT ALLOWS FOR MORE
1:43:06PM INVOLVEMENT THAN I'M OTHERWISE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE.
1:43:09PM AGAIN, I HAVE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY TO HIRE OUTSIDE
1:43:14PM COUNSEL.
1:43:14PM I WANTED TO INVOLVE THE CRB AND THE COUNCIL IN THIS PROCESS.
1:43:17PM AND THAT'S WHY I WROTE IT THIS WAY.
1:43:22PM HE FOCUSED ON THE LANGUAGE THAT I INCLUDED ABOUT ONLY THE
1:43:27PM CITY ATTORNEY CAN EITHER FILE A LAWSUIT OR APPROVE THE
1:43:31PM FILING OF A LAWSUIT.
1:43:32PM THAT LANGUAGE IS IN THERE FOR TWO REASONS.
1:43:35PM ONE, AGAIN, UNDER THE CHARTER, THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS THE
1:43:40PM MANAGEMENT, CHARGE, AND CONTROL OF ALL THE LEGAL BUSINESS OF
1:43:43PM THE CITY.
1:43:44PM THAT LANGUAGE IS ALSO IDENTICAL TO WHAT'S IN SECTION 2.04,
1:43:49PM WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
1:43:52PM AND IT JUST MAKES CLEAR THE DIFFERENCE IN THE ROLES.
1:43:57PM NO ATTORNEY THAT WE HIRE CAN FILE A LAWSUIT ON BEHALF OF THE
1:44:02PM CITY UNLESS AUTHORIZED TO DO SO BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
1:44:05PM AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S ROLE AS THE
1:44:09PM OFFICIAL LEGAL REPRESENTATIVE.
1:44:11PM SO THIS ISN'T ANYTHING NEW.
1:44:14PM IT'S JUST MAKING IT MORE CLEAR.
1:44:17PM AGAIN, BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GIVE THE ORDINANCE THE
1:44:20PM GRAVITY THAT I THOUGHT YOU WANTED IT TO HAVE.
1:44:24PM HE TALKS ABOUT THAT THIS IS PRESUMABLY PUT IN THERE TO
1:44:28PM PREVENT A LAWSUIT TO OBTAIN PUBLIC RECORDS.
1:44:31PM THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE.
1:44:35PM UNDER THE CRB ORDINANCE, SECTION 18-8-G-8, THE POLICE
1:44:40PM DEPARTMENT IS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE RECORDS TO THE CRB UPON
1:44:43PM THEIR REQUEST.
1:44:44PM SO THE CRB WOULDN'T HAVE TO FILE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.
1:44:48PM AGAIN, THE CRB IS A BOARD OF THE CITY.
1:44:50PM THE CITY CAN'T SUE ITSELF.
1:44:52PM SO THEY WOULDN'T BE BRINGING A LAWSUIT.
1:44:53PM SO THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE.
1:44:55PM ONE OTHER COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE, HE KEEPS TALKING ABOUT THE
1:45:01PM MIAMI CITIZENS INVESTIGATION PANEL, WHICH THE LAST I HEARD
1:45:06PM WAS UP TO A $2.4 MILLION BUDGET.
1:45:10PM YES, THAT BOARD HAS ITS OWN STAFF, IT HAS SUBPOENA POWER, IT
1:45:17PM HAS GREATER INVESTIGATIVE POWERS THAN OURS, BUT AT THE END
1:45:20PM OF THE DAY, IF YOU READ THE MIAMI ORDINANCE NEXT TO OUR
1:45:24PM ORDINANCE, ALL THE PANEL CAN DO IS THE SAME THING OUR CRB
1:45:30PM CAN DO.
1:45:30PM THEY MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
1:45:31PM THEY SUBMIT IT TO THE POLICE CHIEF.
1:45:33PM THE POLICE CHIEF RESPONDS, BUT THEY CANNOT DIRECT THAT ANY
1:45:38PM DISCIPLINE BE TAKEN.
1:45:39PM AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE POLICE OFFICER BILL OF RIGHTS, THAT'S
1:45:44PM THE POSITION THEY ARE IN.
1:45:46PM MR. SHAW INCORRECTLY STATED THAT THE HUMAN RIGHTS BOARD HAS
1:45:51PM OUTSIDE COUNSEL; THEY DON'T.
1:45:53PM AN ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY DOES.
1:45:55PM UNDER THE CHARTER, IT IS ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEYS WHO ARE
1:46:00PM SUPPOSED TO SIT WITH ALL THE BOARDS OF THE CITY.
1:46:03PM SO THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE A CONCESSION OF AGREEING TO LET
1:46:09PM OUTSIDE COUNSEL BE HIRED EVEN THOUGH THERE ISN'T -- I KNOW
1:46:15PM THAT THE OTHER SIDE ARGUES THAT THERE'S AN INHERENT
1:46:19PM CONFLICT.
1:46:20PM THERE ISN'T.
1:46:21PM THERE ISN'T A CONFLICT UNDER FLORIDA BAR RULES.
1:46:25PM BUT THIS WOULD BE A CONCESSION ON THE CITY'S PART TO ALLOW
1:46:28PM AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO SIT WITH THIS BOARD OUTSIDE OF THOSE
1:46:32PM CIRCUMSTANCES.
1:46:33PM AGAIN, WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO WITH THIS DRAFT WAS GIVE THE
1:46:38PM COUNCIL AND GIVE THIS ORDINANCE GREATER WEIGHT, THIS WHOLE
1:46:44PM HIRING DECISION FOR THE CRB ATTORNEY, MORE WEIGHT.
1:46:46PM RECOGNIZE THAT THE CRB ADDRESSES SPECIALIZED ISSUES.
1:46:53PM IT'S SIMILAR TO THE PROCESS WE USE WITH THAT RFQ WHERE WE
1:46:58PM WERE TRYING TO LINE UP ELIGIBLE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS.
1:47:03PM FINALLY, AGAIN, THIS IS GIVING BOTH COUNCIL AND THE BOARD
1:47:09PM MORE INVOLVEMENT IN THE HIRING OF AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL THAN IS
1:47:13PM REQUIRED.
1:47:14PM WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
1:47:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:47:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, AS A COURTESY, I DIDN'T KNOW,
1:47:23PM AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY YOU CALLED ON ME, IF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
1:47:27PM HAD ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
1:47:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO, BUT GO AHEAD.
1:47:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
1:47:32PM I WANTED TO SPEAK ON THIS.
1:47:34PM THERE'S A LOT THAT I THINK ABOUT THIS.
1:47:37PM A COUPLE OF THINGS IN TERMS OF MY HISTORY ON THIS ISSUE, I
1:47:41PM REMEMBER TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO OR SO I MADE A MOTION FOR
1:47:44PM AN ORDINANCE WHEN I THOUGHT WE COULD DO THIS THROUGH AN
1:47:48PM ORDINANCE, WE TOOK THE POSITION OF DOING IT THROUGH A
1:47:50PM CHARTER AMENDMENT.
1:47:50PM I VOTED FOR THAT.
1:47:51PM I EVEN VOTED FOR THE OVERRIDING OF THE VETO ON THE CHARTER
1:47:55PM AMENDMENT.
1:47:56PM I BELIEVE IN THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST.
1:48:00PM I TAKE A LOOK AT THESE ISSUES AND I TRY TO HANDLE THEM ONE
1:48:04PM BY ONE TO SEE THE REASONABLENESS OF THEM.
1:48:06PM FOR EXAMPLE, SUBPOENA POWER.
1:48:07PM I THOUGHT THERE WERE MANY, MANY ISSUES WRONG WITH THAT
1:48:10PM INCLUDING POTENTIALLY HAVING AN UNELECTED BOARD, SUBPOENA
1:48:14PM POWER ON POTENTIALLY OR OPEN CRIMINAL CASES.
1:48:17PM THAT'S REALLY, REALLY BAD IN MY OPINION.
1:48:18PM BUT THIS IS VERY, VERY REASONABLE.
1:48:20PM WITH REGARDS TO THE ISSUE OF A CONFLICT, AS I'VE EXPLAINED
1:48:25PM BEFORE LET'S SAY BIG C CONFLICTS AND SMALL C CONFLICTS.
1:48:31PM YOU COULD HAVE STATE FARM INSURANCE THAT HIRES IN-HOUSE
1:48:33PM COUNSEL TO REPRESENT THEIR INSUREDS AND CLAIMS MADE AGAINST
1:48:37PM THEM.
1:48:38PM THEY WORK FOR STATE FARM, BILLS PAID FOR BY STATE FARM OR
1:48:40PM ALTERNATIVELY STATE FARM COULD GO TO AN OUTSIDE INSURANCE
1:48:43PM DEFENSE LAW FIRM AND RETAIN OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO REPRESENT THE
1:48:46PM INTEREST OF THEIR INSURED.
1:48:48PM NEITHER, OF COURSE, IS A CONFLICT BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
1:48:50PM THAT LIKE TO HAVE AN OUTSIDE RETAINED ATTORNEY AS OPPOSED TO
1:48:53PM SOMEONE WHO WORKS DIRECTLY FOR ALL STATE OR WHATEVER
1:48:56PM INSURANCE COMPANY IT MAY BE.
1:48:57PM THAT MAY BE A SMALL C CONFLICT.
1:49:00PM THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I JUST THINK IT'S A
1:49:04PM CLEANER PROCESS.
1:49:06PM AGAIN, IT'S REASONABLE.
1:49:07PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I USED AS PRECEDENT FOR THIS WAS MY
1:49:11PM EXPERIENCE ON THE CIVIL SERVICE REVIEW BOARD THAT I TALKED
1:49:13PM ABOUT PUBLICLY WHICH IS WE HAD AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL, MY
1:49:16PM UNDERSTANDING IS THAT'S BY VIRTUE OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE, A
1:49:20PM DISTINCTION POINT --
1:49:20PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NOT IN STATUTE.
1:49:22PM THE SUBPOENA POWER THAT THEY HAVE IS BY STATUTE.
1:49:26PM I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
1:49:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, THANK YOU.
1:49:28PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THEY HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL BECAUSE IT IS AN
1:49:30PM ACTUAL CONFLICT BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS
1:49:33PM BASICALLY REPRESENTING THE CITY IN THE CASES BEFORE THE
1:49:36PM BOARD SO THEY CAN'T ALSO THEN ADVISE THE BOARD.
1:49:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: I STAND LIBERALLY CORRECTED.
1:49:43PM YOU'RE RIGHT.
1:49:44PM THAT'S SUBPOENA POWER.
1:49:45PM YOU'RE RIGHT.
1:49:46PM THAT WAS A WHILE AGO.
1:49:47PM BUT WE DID HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
1:49:48PM AGAIN FOR A DIFFERENT REASON.
1:49:50PM YOU'RE CORRECT ON THAT, MS. ZELMAN.
1:49:52PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
1:49:53PM WE DID HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS CERTAINLY
1:49:56PM SOMETHING REASONABLE.
1:49:56PM NOW, THERE ARE TWO ISSUES FOR ME, ONE MS. HURTAK HAS SPOKEN
1:50:01PM ON WHICH IS SAYING, LOOK, WE WANT OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
1:50:04PM LET'S HAVE IT ON HERE AND CARRY IT FORWARD.
1:50:07PM THE OTHER ISSUES ARE THE ISSUES YOU BROUGHT UP, CORRECT ME
1:50:09PM IF I'M WRONG WITH REGARDS TO THE ISSUE OF COUNSEL BRINGING A
1:50:13PM LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY, THE CONTRACT FOR THE ATTORNEY
1:50:16PM GOING THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY, IS IT NOT TRUE THAT THESE
1:50:19PM ARE THE SAME RULES THAT WOULD APPLY FOR THE CIVIL SERVICE
1:50:22PM REVIEW BOARD?
1:50:24PM IS THAT CORRECT?
1:50:25PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YEAH, ANY ATTORNEY WE HIRE, WE ISSUE WHAT
1:50:28PM IS CALLED A NOTICE TO PROCEED NOW UNDER THE CONTRACTS, AND
1:50:31PM IT SPECIFIES WHAT THEY CAN DO.
1:50:33PM NOW, DOES IT EXPRESSLY SAY THEY CAN'T SUE ON BEHALF OF THE
1:50:38PM CITY?
1:50:39PM NO.
1:50:39PM BUT AGAIN -- OR, YEAH.
1:50:42PM ON BEHALF -- AGAIN, THEY CAN ONLY DO WHAT WE EXPRESSLY HIRE
1:50:46PM THEM TO DO.
1:50:47PM SO IT'S BY OMISSION THAT THEY COULDN'T SUE THE CITY.
1:50:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
1:50:53PM AGAIN, WHAT I WANT TO SEE DONE AND I THINK A MAJORITY WANT
1:50:57PM TO DO THIS, WHICH IS TO HAVE THE BOARD SEPARATELY, PRIVATELY
1:51:00PM RETAINED COUNSEL AND DO IT IN THE MOST REASONABLE WAY AND
1:51:03PM NOT GET, IN MY OPINION, IN MY OPINION, IT CAUGHT UP ON SMALL
1:51:06PM ISSUES, WHICH IS WHAT IS THAT SAYING, SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF
1:51:09PM A PROBLEM OR WHATEVER IT IS, ON THESE ISSUES.
1:51:13PM PROBLEM IN SEARCH -- WHATEVER.
1:51:15PM YOU ALL KNOW WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
1:51:17PM THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
1:51:19PM AGAIN, MAKING SURE THE BOARD DOES HAVE SEPARATELY RETAINED
1:51:22PM PRIVATE COUNSEL, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.
1:51:23PM I'M FINE WITH THAT.
1:51:24PM BUT TO GO ON THESE OTHER SMALL ISSUES THAT MAY TAKE OUR
1:51:27PM FOCUS OFF OF THIS ORDINANCE, I THINK MAY ULTIMATELY END UP
1:51:33PM MAYBE EVEN SPELLING THE DEFEAT OF THE ORDINANCE THROUGH
1:51:35PM VETO.
1:51:35PM WHO KNOWS.
1:51:37PM NOT TO GO THERE AGAIN.
1:51:38PM OBVIOUSLY, SO WE WANT THIS THING TO PASS, ET CETERA.
1:51:40PM SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY THOUGHT ON IT, WHICH IS IF WE KEEP
1:51:44PM OUR EYE ON THE BALL OF HAVING A PRIVATELY RETAINED COUNSEL
1:51:47PM FOR THE CRB, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
1:51:50PM THESE SMALL ISSUES APPEAR TO BE BY VIRTUE OF CHARTER, BY
1:51:53PM VIRTUE OF ESTABLISHED LAW AND PRECEDENT WITH THE CITY OF
1:51:56PM TAMPA ON WHICH WE ARGUABLY HAVE VERY LITTLE TO NO DISCRETION
1:52:00PM ON THIS ISSUE AS I SEE IT.
1:52:03PM AS I SEE IT.
1:52:04PM AND I DID WANT TO SAY, TOO, WITH REGARDS TO MS. ZELMAN, YOU
1:52:08PM SPOKE ABOUT ISSUES QUESTIONING YOU.
1:52:10PM I'VE WORKED WITH YOU IN MY CAPACITY AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER
1:52:14PM IN THE COMMUNITY, ET CETERA, AND YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN A
1:52:16PM PROFESSIONAL PERSON AND A FIRST-RATE PERSON, A FIRST-RATE
1:52:20PM ATTORNEY, AND A FIRST-RATE COLLEAGUE IN THE LAW.
1:52:22PM I'VE JUST ALWAYS THOUGHT YOU ARE STELLAR PROFESSIONALLY.
1:52:25PM I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE, I'M SURE, IN SAYING THAT.
1:52:30PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THANK YOU.
1:52:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:52:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
1:52:33PM THAT WAS VERY ELOQUENTLY PUT, AND I AGREE.
1:52:36PM BUT THE WAY I LOOK AT C AND D, IT SAYS THAT THE CITY
1:52:45PM ATTORNEY SHALL SOLICIT APPLICATIONS TO MEET THE MINIMUM
1:52:50PM CRITERIA.
1:52:50PM SO IF MY UNDERSTANDING IS CORRECT, ANY APPLICATION YOU WOULD
1:52:54PM THEN GIVE TO THE CRB WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE CANDIDATE.
1:53:00PM SO JUST LETTING THEM CHOOSE FROM THOSE WOULD BE OKAY.
1:53:05PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: RIGHT.
1:53:07PM THAT'S THE WAY IT'S WORDED.
1:53:09PM I WOULD GIVE THEM THE APPLICATIONS.
1:53:10PM THEY COULD INTERVIEW IF THEY WANTED TO, JUST DISCUSS THEM IF
1:53:13PM THEY WANTED TO.
1:53:14PM THEY WOULD COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION, AND I WOULD MAKE
1:53:18PM THE HIRING BASED ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
1:53:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THEN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I WOULD JUST LIKE
1:53:25PM TO TAKE D OUT AND JUST KIND OF COMBINE THOSE TWO AND SAY THE
1:53:29PM CRB MAY ESTABLISH PROCEDURES TO REVIEW AND SELECT THE CRB
1:53:35PM LEGAL ADVISOR AND IF YOU WANTED TO ADD A SENTENCE THAT SAID
1:53:42PM THE CITY ATTORNEY HALL HIRE BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION.
1:53:45PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THAT'S D.
1:53:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
1:53:48PM AGAIN, I DON'T WANT THEM TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION.
1:53:54PM I WANT THEM TO SAY WHO THEY WANT.
1:53:56PM I THINK THE WORDS ARE A LITTLE SEMANTIC.
1:54:00PM BUT IF THEY GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, I THINK THE REST
1:54:03PM IS VERY CLEAR AND MAKES SENSE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A CRITERIA.
1:54:08PM WE DO HAVE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WE NEED TO DO.
1:54:12PM AND, YEAH, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD CHANGE.
1:54:16PM SO I WOULD JUST CHANGE NUMBER 6 TO SAY THE CRB SHALL BE
1:54:20PM REPRESENTED BY AN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY, PERIOD.
1:54:22PM AND THEN A AND EVERYTHING BELOW AFTER THE CHANGES WITH C AND
1:54:27PM D TO ME, THAT WOULD BE VERY SIMPLE AND TO THE POINT OF WHAT
1:54:33PM WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, LET'S NOT GUM
1:54:36PM UP THE WORKS.
1:54:37PM LET'S JUST SAY THEY WILL BE REPRESENTED.
1:54:39PM AND THEN THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE DO TO START THAT.
1:54:42PM I WANT TO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON MAKING SURE WE
1:54:47PM HAVE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION THERE.
1:54:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:54:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANTED TO REPEAT WHAT MY COLLEAGUE,
1:54:58PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA SAID, WHICH IS THAT THIS IS A
1:55:01PM REASONABLE THING.
1:55:02PM I ALSO THINK THAT AN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY HELPS ALL PARTIES.
1:55:07PM IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT IS ANTIPOLICE OR THAT ANY OFFICERS
1:55:12PM SHOULD FEEL THREATENED BY BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING OBJECTIVITY
1:55:16PM OF AN ATTORNEY.
1:55:16PM YOU'RE NOT GETTING SOMEBODY MANIPULATED POLITICALLY IN ANY
1:55:18PM WAY.
1:55:19PM THEY WOULD BE SOMEBODY COMPLETELY OUTSIDE.
1:55:21PM I THINK ALL SIDES WOULD BE PROTECTED.
1:55:23PM AND THEN TO THE COMMENTS THAT MS. ZELMAN MADE, I VOTED FOR
1:55:31PM THE CHARTER AMENDMENT BECAUSE THAT WOULD FIX SOME OF THE
1:55:35PM ISSUES, BUT CONSIDERING THE SITUATION THE WAY IT IS NOW, WE
1:55:37PM HAVE TO FALL UNDER THE WAY THE CHARTER IS.
1:55:40PM SO THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
1:55:42PM LIKE ARE REQUIRED BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CHARTER AMENDMENT.
1:55:47PM IT'S AN ORDINANCE.
1:55:47PM I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE CHANGES THAT COUNCIL MEMBER
1:55:53PM HURTAK PROPOSED.
1:55:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
1:55:55PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
1:56:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL MOVE THE ORDINANCE WITH THE CHANGES THAT
1:56:08PM WERE LISTED.
1:56:09PM MS. ZELMAN, DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOU UNDERSTAND THE CHANGES THAT
1:56:17PM I WANT?
1:56:18PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I DO.
1:56:19PM AND I KNOW HOW TO FIND YOU IF I DON'T.
1:56:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PERFECT.
1:56:23PM THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
1:56:23PM WE CAN GET TOGETHER OFF-LINE.
1:56:25PM I'LL GO THROUGH THEM AGAIN.
1:56:29PM NUMBER 6, I WANT TO STRIKE ALL THE LANGUAGE AND JUST HAVE A
1:56:33PM SENTENCE THAT CLEARLY SAYS THE CRB SHALL BE REPRESENTED BY
1:56:40PM AN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY.
1:56:43PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I DON'T WANT TO ARGUE AGAINST MYSELF.
1:56:46PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, THE WORD "INDEPENDENT," THERE
1:56:52PM WILL STILL BE AN ATTORNEY THAT IS HIRED BY THE CITY, PAID BY
1:56:55PM THE CITY.
1:56:56PM IT'S A CITY BOARD.
1:56:58PM I'M NOT SURE "INDEPENDENT" IS THE RIGHT WORD.
1:57:03PM THAT IS WHY WE LANDED ON -- AN ATTORNEY WHO IS NOT AN
1:57:10PM EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY.
1:57:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, HOW ABOUT PRIVATELY RETAINED
1:57:15PM SEPARATE COUNSEL?
1:57:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LIKE THAT.
1:57:18PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: AN ATTORNEY WHO IS NOT AN EMPLOYEE OF THE
1:57:20PM CITY.
1:57:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: PRIVATELY RETAINED NON-CITY EMPLOYEE.
1:57:22PM BY VIRTUE OF BEING A MEMBER OF THE FLORIDA BAR YOU ARE
1:57:26PM SUPPOSED TO BE INDEPENDENT IN ALL REPRESENTATION NO MATTER
1:57:28PM WHO PAYS YOUR BILLS.
1:57:29PM AGAIN, THIS IS LIKE INSIDE BASEBALL STUFF.
1:57:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PRIVATELY RETAINED NON-CITY OF TAMPA
1:57:38PM EMPLOYEE.
1:57:38PM DID YOU GET THAT?
1:57:40PM AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER CHANGE I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS WITH C, I
1:57:54PM WOULD SAY THE CRB MAY ESTABLISH PROCEDURES TO REVIEW AND
1:57:59PM SELECT ITS LEGAL ADVISOR.
1:58:04PM SO D INSTEAD OF SHALL SELECT, IT SHOULD BE SHALL HIRE.
1:58:23PM THE CRB LEGAL ADVISOR BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
1:58:29PM DOES THAT WORK FOR EVERYBODY?
1:58:33PM DEFERRING TO MY LEGAL COLLEAGUE.
1:58:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE APPROVE THIS AT FIRST READING OR WE
1:58:45PM HAVE TO BRING IT BACK FOR FIRST READING?
1:58:47PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NO.
1:58:48PM I NEED TO REWRITE IT.
1:58:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU GET THE LAST?
1:58:55PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YES.
1:58:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL.
1:58:56PM SO THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION TO BRING THIS BACK MARCH 2nd.
1:59:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME, MS. ZELMAN?
1:59:08PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I THINK THE SIRE DEADLINE FOR THE MARCH
1:59:12PM 2nd AGENDA IS 5:00 TODAY.
1:59:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M HAPPY TO ACCEPT A LATER VERSION, BUT JUST
1:59:19PM GETTING IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
1:59:20PM SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING MARCH 2.
1:59:23PM IF IT'S NOT IN SIRE RIGHT AWAY, I'M WILLING TO GIVE A HALL
1:59:28PM PASS FOR THAT.
1:59:29PM IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
1:59:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, NOT HAVING IT IN SIRE -- WOULD IT
1:59:37PM BE ON THE AGENDA --
1:59:38PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
1:59:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
1:59:46PM THE 16th OF MARCH IT IS.
1:59:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO, WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT GIVES THE
1:59:53PM OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE IT IN ADVANCE OF THE
1:59:56PM MEETING.
2:00:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M GLAD ACTUALLY.
2:00:05PM IT'S FUNNY WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ON CERTAIN ISSUES LIKE THE
2:00:08PM ATTORNEY SUING, ET CETERA, BECAUSE I HAD SOME FOLKS SPEAK TO
2:00:11PM ME, THIS IS GOING TO BE A ROGUE ATTORNEY AND DOING THIS.
2:00:14PM BY HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS PUBLICLY, WE ADDRESS, LIKE WAS
2:00:17PM SAID BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND OTHERS, THIS TO ME IS A
2:00:20PM REASONABLE THING.
2:00:23PM IT'S A PROCEDURAL IMPROVEMENT AND BY ADDRESSING THIS, I
2:00:29PM THINK WE ALSO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.
2:00:31PM IT'S GOOD IN MY ESTIMATION.
2:00:33PM THANK YOU.
2:00:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THAT'S MY MOTION.
2:00:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
2:00:40PM HURTAK.
2:00:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:00:42PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:00:43PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:00:45PM >> NAY.
2:00:46PM >> NAY.
2:00:47PM >> NAY.
2:00:48PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO, MIRANDA, AND
2:00:50PM CITRO VOTING NO.
2:00:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:00:54PM LET'S MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM 15.
2:01:01PM THAT'S BEEN CONTINUED TO MARCH 2.
2:01:03PM LET'S GO TO CONSENT.
2:01:13PM WHOO-HOO.
2:01:14PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY.
2:01:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE ITEMS 20 THROUGH 28 EXCLUDING 21, WHICH
2:01:27PM WE'VE ALREADY DONE.
2:01:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:01:30PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:01:32PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:01:33PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:01:35PM MOTION PASSES.
2:01:36PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU HAVE PARKS AND RECREATION.
2:01:39PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE ITEMS 29 THROUGH 39.
2:01:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:01:44PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:01:46PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:01:47PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:01:48PM MOTION PASSES.
2:01:50PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU HAVE PUBLIC WORKS.
2:01:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 40 THROUGH 50.
2:01:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECONDED
2:01:58PM BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:02:00PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:02:01PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:02:02PM MOTION PASSES.
2:02:03PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAVE FINANCE.
2:02:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 51 THROUGH 58.
2:02:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:02:12PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:02:13PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:02:14PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:02:15PM MOTION PASSES.
2:02:16PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUILDING AND ZONING.
2:02:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEMS 59 THROUGH 72.
2:02:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:02:27PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:02:28PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:02:30PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:02:31PM THE MOTION PASSES.
2:02:33PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU HAVE TRANSPORTATION.
2:02:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 73 THROUGH 75.
2:02:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
2:02:42PM MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:02:44PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:02:45PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:02:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO SET ITEM 76, SCHEDULE FOR
2:02:53PM APRIL 6, 2023 AT 1:30 P.M.
2:02:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
2:02:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA TO MOVE FILE SU-1-22-23-C TO
2:03:10PM APRIL 6th AT 1:30 P.M.
2:03:13PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:03:15PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:03:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RESCIND ITEM NUMBER 77, WHICH
2:03:20PM IS RESOLUTION 2023-97.
2:03:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THIS?
2:03:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURELY.
2:03:34PM WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:03:36PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:03:38PM ANY DISCUSSION?
2:03:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
2:03:40PM YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW AS WELL AS I DO BUT YBOR IS GOING TO
2:03:48PM TRY TO DO THEIR OWN.
2:03:50PM THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME TO BRING THIS IN AND YBOR HAS ITS
2:03:53PM OWN SEPARATE BRAND AND IDENTITY.
2:03:56PM THERE SEEMS TO BE A MOVEMENT TO DO THAT IN YBOR.
2:03:59PM IT'S NOT SET YET, BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO TALK TO ALL THE
2:04:04PM STAKEHOLDERS IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY.
2:04:05PM THANK YOU.
2:04:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:04:09PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:04:10PM FANTASTIC.
2:04:14PM WE ARE AT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 74.
2:04:20PM 78.
2:04:21PM GOODNESS, WE ARE ROCKIN' AND ROLLING.
2:04:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ALREADY OPENED ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
2:04:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 78, FILE TA/CPA 22-14.
2:04:36PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: THE NEXT FOUR ITEMS ARE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
2:04:39PM AMENDMENTS.
2:04:40PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF IS ON THE LINE TO PRESENT THESE
2:04:42PM ITEMS TO YOU TODAY.
2:04:52PM >> WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
2:04:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PROCEED.
2:04:56PM >> TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP AMENDMENT 22-14 FOR THE
2:05:01PM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1112 WEST WATERS AVENUE.
2:05:05PM CHANGE COMMUNITY MIXED US 35 TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
2:05:09PM YOU APPROVED AT JANUARY 26.
2:05:11PM BACK BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
2:05:14PM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:05:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:05:17PM SEEING NONE, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:05:26PM NOBODY IS REGISTERED.
2:05:31PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:05:32PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:05:34PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:05:35PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:05:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 78, FILE TA/CPA 22-14,
2:05:44PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
2:05:46PM AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
2:05:50PM PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE
2:05:54PM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1112 WEST WATERS AVENUE FROM COMMUNITY
2:05:59PM MIXED USE 35, CMU-35, TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL-35, CC-35;
2:06:05PM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT;
2:06:09PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:06:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:06:14PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:06:15PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:06:17PM OH, EXCUSE ME.
2:06:18PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
2:06:26PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO AND
2:06:29PM CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:06:33PM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:06:35PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
2:06:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 79, TA/CPA 22-18.
2:06:41PM YOU ARE MUTED.
2:06:53PM >> THANK YOU.
2:06:53PM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
2:06:54PM SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
2:06:58PM MAP AMENDMENT 22-18 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 803 WEST
2:07:02PM LINEBAUGH AVENUE.
2:07:04PM REQUESTED CHANGE TO FUTURE LAND USE FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO
2:07:06PM RESIDENTIAL 20.
2:07:07PM YOU APPROVED THIS AMENDMENT AT YOUR HEARING ON JANUARY 26.
2:07:10PM IT IS BACK BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
2:07:13PM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:07:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:07:15PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
2:07:21PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:07:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
2:07:23PM MANISCALCO.
2:07:24PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:07:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:07:26PM THANK YOU.
2:07:27PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:07:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TA/CPA 22-18, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
2:07:32PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
2:07:33PM AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
2:07:37PM PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
2:07:40PM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 803 WEST LINEBAUGH AVENUE FROM
2:07:42PM RESIDENTIAL 10, R-10, TO RESIDENTIAL-20, R-20, PROVIDING FOR
2:07:46PM REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR
2:07:48PM SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:07:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:07:53PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:07:54PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
2:08:00PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
2:08:02PM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:08:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 80, FILE TA/CPA 22-19.
2:08:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK WE NEED A FULL --
2:08:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
2:08:16PM LET'S WAIT UNTIL COUNCILMAN CARLSON REJOINS US.
2:08:21PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 81, FILE TA/CPA 22-22.
2:08:33PM I GUESS THEY ARE -- WE DON'T NEED A WHOLE COUNCIL FOR ALL OF
2:08:38PM THEM.
2:08:39PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 81, FILE TA/CPA 22-22.
2:08:46PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
2:08:48PM STAFF, TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP AMENDMENT 22-22 FOR THE
2:08:52PM PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 101 WEST AMELIA AVENUE, 2500 AND 2510
2:08:57PM NORTH TAMPA STREET, AND 106, 108, 110, AND 114 WEST COLUMBUS
2:09:02PM DRIVE.
2:09:03PM REQUEST TO CHANGE FUTURE LAND USE FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL
2:09:06PM 35 AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 TO URBAN MIXED USE 60.
2:09:10PM YOU APPROVED THIS AMENDMENT AT YOUR HEARING ON JANUARY 26
2:09:12PM AND IT IS BACK BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
2:09:15PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:09:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:09:17PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE?
2:09:19PM ANYBODY ONLINE?
2:09:20PM OKAY.
2:09:23PM PETITIONER, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK?
2:09:27PM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
2:09:31PM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL TODAY.
2:09:34PM THANKS.
2:09:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:09:35PM ANYONE ELSE?
2:09:36PM MOVE TO CLOSE?
2:09:42PM >> SO MOVED.
2:09:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:09:48PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:09:51PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:09:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:09:53PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:09:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
2:09:58PM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
2:10:01PM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA
2:10:04PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE
2:10:06PM MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 101 WEST AMELIA AVENUE,
2:10:10PM 2500 AND 2510 NORTH TAMPA STREET AND 106, 108, 110 AND 114
2:10:15PM WEST COLUMBUS DRIVE FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 AND
2:10:18PM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 TO URBAN MIXED USE 60, PROVIDING FOR
2:10:22PM REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR
2:10:25PM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:10:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
2:10:31PM MANISCALCO.
2:10:32PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:10:34PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
2:10:39PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
2:10:41PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:11:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE INFORMED ME THAT HE HAS AN EMERGENCY
2:11:41PM ISSUE HE HAD TO ADDRESS.
2:11:44PM I ASKED HIM TO COME BACK AND HE SAID HE HAD TO LEAVE.
2:11:48PM THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
2:11:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 82.
2:11:59PM WAIT, JUST A MOMENT.
2:12:00PM HE'S BACK.
2:12:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT NUMBER WAS THE ISSUE?
2:12:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 80.
2:12:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR QUASI-JUDICIAL,
2:12:14PM NUMBER 82.
2:12:15PM WE'LL COME BACK TO IT.
2:12:16PM ANYONE GIVING ANY TYPE OF TESTIMONY TODAY ON THE
2:12:21PM QUASI-JUDICIAL CASES, WOULD YOU PLEASE RAISE, STAND AND
2:12:27PM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
2:12:31PM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
2:12:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:12:36PM WE WILL CONTINUE WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 82, FILE VAC-23-02.
2:12:46PM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:12:49PM FILE VAC-23-02 IS BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
2:12:53PM ADOPTION.
2:12:53PM IT IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF
2:12:56PM 7th AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND MARKET STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY
2:12:59PM LOCATED NORTH OF HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, SOUTH OF PALM AVENUE,
2:13:02PM EAST OF SANDRA HEIGHTS LANE AND WEST OF OLA AVENUE WITHIN
2:13:05PM THE PLAT OF HEIGHTS OF TAMPA SUBDIVISION.
2:13:07PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:13:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:13:10PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
2:13:12PM MS. COYLE.
2:13:15PM >> CATHERINE COYLE, URBAN PLANNING INNOVATIONS, 5312 NORTH
2:13:18PM SUWANNEE AVENUE, REPRESENTING ADAM HARDEN AND RIVERSIDE
2:13:25PM HEIGHTS HOLDINGS.
2:13:26PM THERE WAS A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE PUT IN BY MR. WIGGINTON
2:13:30PM FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
2:13:30PM TECO DID ASK FOR AN EASEMENT, WHICH WE AGREED TO, ALONG WITH
2:13:34PM ALL THE OTHER EASEMENTS.
2:13:35PM WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:13:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. COYLE?
2:13:37PM SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
2:13:40PM IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
2:13:44PM ITEM NUMBER 82, FILE VAC-23-02?
2:13:48PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:13:51PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:13:53PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:13:54PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:13:55PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:13:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
2:13:59PM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
2:14:03PM ADOPTION.
2:14:04PM AN ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,
2:14:06PM CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF 7th
2:14:09PM AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND MARKET STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED
2:14:11PM NORTH OF HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, SOUTH OF PALM AVENUE, EAST OF
2:14:14PM SANDRA HEIGHTS LANE AND WEST OF OLA AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT
2:14:17PM OF HEIGHTS OF TAMPA SUBDIVISION, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
2:14:20PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
2:14:20PM HEREIN; PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
2:14:20PM VIOLATIONS; PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATION AND
2:14:25PM REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING
2:14:28PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:14:29PM >> SUBSTITUTE.
2:14:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M SO SORRY.
2:14:36PM I MOVE A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
2:14:39PM READING AND ADOPTION.
2:14:41PM ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING,
2:14:43PM DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF 7th AVENUE
2:14:46PM RIGHT-OF-WAY AND A PORTION OF MARKET STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY
2:14:48PM LOCATED NORTH OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, SOUTH OF PALM AVENUE,
2:14:51PM EAST OF SANDRA HEIGHTS LANE AND WEST OF OLA AVENUE ALL
2:14:54PM WITHIN THE PLAT OF HEIGHTS OF TAMPA SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY
2:14:57PM OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
2:14:59PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO THE RESERVATION OF
2:15:02PM CERTAIN EASEMENTS AND THE IMPOSITION OF CERTAIN COVENANTS,
2:15:05PM CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
2:15:07PM HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
2:15:09PM VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND
2:15:11PM REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING
2:15:14PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:15:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:15:17PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:15:19PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
2:15:26PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
2:15:28PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:15:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THE
2:15:33PM APPLICANT FOR NUMBER 80 IS GOING TO BE REQUESTING A
2:15:36PM CONTINUANCE, IF THAT CAN BE HANDLED.
2:15:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 80 --
2:15:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M SORRY, MR. SHELBY.
2:15:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S
2:15:50PM REPRESENTATIVE CAN COME UP AND ANNOUNCE WHO THEY ARE AND IF
2:15:53PM THEY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.
2:15:54PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, ANGELA HALBER.
2:15:57PM HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 80.
2:15:58PM I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A CONTINUANCE OF THAT ITEM TO THE
2:16:01PM MARCH 2nd.
2:16:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 80 TO MARCH 2 AT
2:16:07PM 9:30 A.M. UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.
2:16:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, IS THERE
2:16:12PM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE
2:16:15PM ONLY?
2:16:15PM ARE YOU SURE NO ONE IS REGISTERED?
2:16:21PM THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY NEXT QUESTION.
2:16:23PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:16:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:16:26PM SINCE THESE FOLKS HAD TO WAIT, MAY WE DO IT AT A TIME
2:16:31PM CERTAIN OF 9:30.
2:16:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND THAT MOTION.
2:16:34PM I APOLOGIZE TO YOU.
2:16:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE
2:16:40PM WE CAN'T NECESSARILY INTERRUPT PUBLIC COMMENT?
2:16:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: FIRST THING AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:16:45PM WELL SAID, THANK YOU.
2:16:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
2:16:47PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:16:48PM MOTION CARRIES.
2:16:49PM >> THANK YOU.
2:16:50PM AGENDA ITEM 83, FILE VAC-22-25.
2:17:07PM >>ROSS SAMONS: VAC-22-25, THIS ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
2:17:13PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
2:17:14PM PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF ELLICOTT
2:17:18PM STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH OF LOUISIANA AVENUE, SOUTH
2:17:21PM OF CARACAS STREET, EAST OF 34th STREET AND WEST OF 36th
2:17:25PM STREET WITHIN THE PLAT OF PRINCE'S SUBDIVISION.
2:17:27PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:17:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAMONS?
2:17:32PM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
2:17:36PM >>ROSS SAMONS: IT'S ON BEHALF OF THE CITY.
2:17:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:17:40PM THIS IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:17:46PM NON-QUASI.
2:17:47PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
2:17:49PM THIS?
2:17:49PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
2:17:51PM LET'S GO TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:17:54PM I'M SORRY.
2:17:57PM MOTION TO CLOSE, PLEASE.
2:17:58PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:18:01PM IS THERE A SECOND?
2:18:02PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:18:05PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:18:06PM ANY OPPOSED.
2:18:08PM MOTION CARRIES.
2:18:09PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:18:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 83.
2:18:12PM FILE VAC-22-25, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
2:18:16PM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
2:18:18PM FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING
2:18:21PM THAT PORTION OF ELLICOTT STREET RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH
2:18:24PM OF LOUISIANA AVENUE, SOUTH OF CARACAS STREET, EAST OF 34th
2:18:27PM STREET AND WEST OF 36th STREET WITHIN THE PLAT OF PRINCE'S
2:18:30PM SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
2:18:34PM SECTION 2, HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS
2:18:37PM AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
2:18:39PM PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
2:18:41PM PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING
2:18:44PM CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN
2:18:46PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:18:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED
2:18:55PM BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:18:56PM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
2:19:03PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH MANISCALCO AND
2:19:06PM CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:19:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
2:19:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WAS THAT?
2:19:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALLOW FOR REVOTE.
2:19:22PM >>THE CLERK: SORRY.
2:19:23PM GO AGAIN.
2:19:24PM MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT
2:19:33PM VOTE.
2:19:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:19:37PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 84, FILE AB2-22-21.
2:19:43PM THAT'S RIGHT.
2:19:45PM WE ALREADY TOOK THAT ONE UP.
2:19:47PM YES, BECAUSE WE HAD TO MOVE THEM UP.
2:19:53PM LITTLE GIRL WAS SO NICE.
2:19:54PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 85, FILE NUMBER E2023-8, CHAPTER 24.
2:20:05PM >> JUSTIN VASKE, SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
2:20:09PM THIS IS IN REGARDS TO ITEM 85 IN THE AGENDA.
2:20:12PM JANUARY 5, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION SETTING A
2:20:16PM PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION.
2:20:19PM THIS RESOLUTION STATES CITY COUNCIL'S INTENT TO USE UNIFORM
2:20:23PM METHOD IN LEVELING AND COLLECTING NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENTS
2:20:26PM BY THE CITY IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 197.3632 FLORIDA
2:20:32PM STATUTES FOR STREETLIGHTS GENERALLY LOCATED NORTH OF KAY
2:20:35PM STREET, SOUTH OF HENDERSON AVENUE, EAST OF LAMAR AVENUE, AND
2:20:39PM WEST OF NEBRASKA AVENUE.
2:20:41PM SECTION 197.3632 FLORIDA STATUTES REQUIRES THAT THE ATTACHED
2:20:47PM RESOLUTION BE ADOPTED AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
2:20:50PM SO IF THE PUBLIC HEARING WASN'T OPENED, IT NEEDS TO BE
2:20:53PM OPENED NOW.
2:20:54PM >> SO MOVED.
2:20:55PM >> SECOND.
2:20:57PM >> IN THE SUMMER, WE'LL BRING TO CITY COUNCIL A RESOLUTION
2:20:59PM TO ADOPT THIS TAX ASSESSMENT ROLL.
2:21:02PM BUT I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
2:21:04PM THANK YOU.
2:21:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:21:05PM SEEING NONE IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO
2:21:08PM SPEAK TO THIS?
2:21:08PM SEEING NONE, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
2:21:11PM I BELIEVE WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY
2:21:15PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:21:15PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:21:17PM IS THIS A ROLL CALL VOTE?
2:21:24PM >> NO.
2:21:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
2:21:25PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:21:26PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:21:27PM THE MOTION PASSES.
2:21:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW A MOTION TO CLOSE, PLEASE.
2:21:31PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:21:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:21:34PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:21:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:21:38PM ANY -- THANK YOU.
2:21:39PM MOTION PASSES.
2:21:40PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 86, FILE NUMBER E2023-8, CHAPTER 24.
2:21:49PM >> JUSTIN VASKE, SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
2:21:53PM ITEM NUMBER 86 ON THE AGENDA.
2:21:54PM ONCE AGAIN ON JANUARY 5, CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A RESOLUTION
2:21:57PM SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS PARTICULAR RESOLUTION, AND
2:22:00PM THIS RESOLUTION STATES CITY COUNCIL'S INTENT TO USE THE
2:22:03PM UNIFORM METHOD OF LEVELING AND COLLECTING NON-AD VALOREM
2:22:06PM ASSESSMENTS BY THE CITY IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 197.
2:22:10PM 3632 FLORIDA STATUTES FOR STREETLIGHTS GENERALLY LOCATED
2:22:14PM BETWEEN NORTH FOREST HILLS DRIVE AND NORTH COMMUNITY PLACE,
2:22:17PM BEING NORTH OF RAMBLA STREET, SOUTH OF FOREST HILLS DRIVE,
2:22:22PM EAST OF FOREST HILLS PLACE, AND WEST OF WILLOW AVENUE.
2:22:25PM SECTION 197.3632 FLORIDA STATUTES REQUIRES THAT THE ATTACHED
2:22:31PM RESOLUTION BE ADOPTED AT A PUBLIC HEARING.
2:22:32PM SO AT THIS POINT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC
2:22:35PM HEARING.
2:22:36PM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
2:22:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO
2:22:41PM MOVE THE RESOLUTION --
2:22:43PM >> EXCUSE ME, SORRY.
2:22:44PM IT'S OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
2:22:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU CLARIFY FOR THE
2:22:49PM RECORD.
2:22:49PM >>THE CLERK: ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS WERE OPENED.
2:22:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I OPENED EVERYTHING ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
2:22:55PM >> ALL RIGHT.
2:22:56PM GO AHEAD.
2:22:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:22:57PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:23:00PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:23:03PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
2:23:05PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:23:08PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:23:09PM I'VE GOT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
2:23:15PM MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:23:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:23:19PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:23:20PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:23:21PM MOTION PASSES.
2:23:24PM >> THANK YOU.
2:23:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 87, FILE SU1-22-60-C.
2:23:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN ITEM 87.
2:23:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN ALL 1:30 BY
2:23:47PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:23:50PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:23:52PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:23:52PM MOTION CARRIES.
2:23:53PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 87, FILE SU1-22-60-C.
2:24:01PM >> CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
2:24:04PM ITEM NUMBER 87 IS A REVIEW HEARING FOR SU1-22-60 FOR THE
2:24:13PM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3627 SOUTH HESPERIDES STREET.
2:24:19PM THIS WAS A PETITION FOR REVIEW THAT WAS FILED ON BEHALF OF
2:24:22PM DAVID WRIGHT FROM TSP COMPANIES.
2:24:26PM THE PETITIONER FILED A SPECIAL USE APPLICATION FOR AN
2:24:31PM EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE AT THE PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY STATED
2:24:35PM AND STAFF REVIEWED THAT APPLICATION AND DENIED THE REQUEST
2:24:38PM FOR THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.
2:24:40PM STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION ON OCTOBER 12, 2022, ON THE
2:24:46PM BASIS THAT IT DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA AS OUTLINED IN CODE
2:24:49PM SECTION 27-132.
2:24:52PM I PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL COPIES OF THE RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS
2:24:56PM WHICH ARE 27-132 WHICH ARE THE SPECIFIC REGULATIONS
2:25:01PM REGARDING THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.
2:25:03PM CODE SECTION 27-129 WHICH ARE THE GENERAL STANDARDS IN CODE
2:25:10PM SECTION 27-130 WHICH PROVIDE THE CONDITIONS THAT CAN BE
2:25:13PM APPLIED TO AN APPLICATION.
2:25:15PM ALSO, I PROVIDED YOU SAMPLE MOTIONS AND RULES OF PROCEDURE
2:25:18PM IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THE REVIEW HEARING.
2:25:20PM ALSO, I'VE PROVIDED CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTION J-3,
2:25:27PM WHICH GIVES THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THIS REVIEW HEARING,
2:25:31PM WHICH IS A DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW.
2:25:33PM THIS DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW MEANS THAT CITY COUNCIL
2:25:38PM SHALL NOT BE LIMITED IN ITS REVIEW TO THAT INFORMATION OR
2:25:41PM DOCUMENTATION OR EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE SPECIFIC -- THE
2:25:45PM SPECIAL USE PERMIT WAS BASED UPON.
2:25:48PM CITY COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT NEW EVIDENCE AT THIS HEARING.
2:25:51PM THE STAFF WHO CONDUCTED THE REVIEW OF THIS APPLICATION IS
2:25:54PM LAURA MARLEY, AND SHE WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE
2:25:58PM APPLICATION AND THE BASIS FOR THE DENIAL.
2:26:00PM AFTER CITY COUNCIL HEARS ALL THE EVIDENCE AND THE COMMENTS
2:26:04PM ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PETITION FOR REVIEW, CITY COUNCIL CAN
2:26:10PM AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND DENY THE
2:26:13PM REQUEST TO WAIVE THE 600 SQUARE FEET CODE REQUIREMENT FOR
2:26:18PM THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN
2:26:22PM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THEREBY GRANT
2:26:28PM THE REQUEST TO WAIVE THE 600 SQUARE FEET CODE REQUIREMENT
2:26:32PM FOR THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.
2:26:35PM WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. MARLEY.
2:26:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, I'M SORRY.
2:26:39PM THANK YOU.
2:26:39PM MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU JUST HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE EX
2:26:42PM PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED INTO THE
2:26:45PM RECORD, PLEASE.
2:26:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:26:48PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:26:49PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:26:51PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:26:52PM MOTION PASSES.
2:26:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
2:26:56PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MS. MARLEY.
2:26:58PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, LAURA MARLEY, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:27:02PM CAN I PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN?
2:27:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE GET OUR SCREENS UP PLEASE?
2:27:15PM THANK YOU.
2:27:26PM >>LAURA MARLEY: CAN YOU SEE THE PowerPoint?
2:27:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:27:29PM >>LAURA MARLEY: OKAY.
2:27:30PM SO THIS IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR SU 1-22-60.
2:27:39PM THE PETITIONER IS ROBERT WEBSTER.
2:27:41PM THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 3627 SOUTH HESPERIDES STREET.
2:27:46PM THE ZONING IS R-60, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
2:27:50PM AND THE SPECIAL USE REQUEST IS EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE AND
2:27:54PM THE RESIDENCE WOULD BE THE OWNER'S PARENTS.
2:27:57PM THIS IS THE GENERAL OVERVIEW OF THE AREA, THE OUTLINE OF THE
2:28:03PM PROPERTY IS IN RED.
2:28:05PM THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
2:28:09PM THE BOX IN BLUE IS THE PROPOSED EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.
2:28:14PM THESE ARE THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE EXTENDED FAMILY
2:28:19PM RESIDENCE.
2:28:20PM A IS THAT IT SHALL BE LIMITED TO 600 SQUARE FEET.
2:28:23PM B IS THE EXTENDED FAMILY MAY BE APPROVED WHEN THE MAIN
2:28:28PM RESIDENCE IS OWNER OCCUPIED.
2:28:31PM C IS THAT IT MAY BE DESIGNED TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THE
2:28:34PM SINGLE-FAMILY OR A PERFORMING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
2:28:39PM D IS THE OCCUPANTS OF THE EXTENDED FAMILY CARE SHOULD BE
2:28:43PM LIMITED TO FAMILY MEMBERS.
2:28:45PM E IS IT'S FOR A TEMPORARY NEED AND NO TIME THERE MAY BE MORE
2:28:50PM THAN TWO RESIDENTS.
2:28:51PM F IS THAT THEY MAY NOT -- THEY DON'T PAY RENT.
2:28:55PM AND G IS THEY MUST CERTIFY THAT THERE'S CONDITIONS FOR THE
2:29:00PM APPLICATION REGARDING THE OCCUPANTS, WHO THEY ARE, THE
2:29:04PM RELATION.
2:29:05PM AND THEN H IS STAFF REVIEWS ANNUALLY THE EXTENDED FAMILY
2:29:13PM RESIDENCE.
2:29:14PM SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A.
2:29:15PM THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE NOT MEETING.
2:29:18PM IT SHOULD BE LIMITED TO 600 SQUARE FEET.
2:29:21PM AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 712 SQUARE FEET.
2:29:27PM SO ALL OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET, BUT THEY ARE
2:29:31PM ASKING TO BE LARGER THAN 600 OVER BY 112 SQUARE FEET.
2:29:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
2:29:43PM SEEING NONE.
2:29:53PM OKAY.
2:29:54PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:29:54PM PETITIONER?
2:30:00PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
2:30:02PM MY NAME IS DAVID WRIGHT, PRESIDENT OF TSP COMPANIES.
2:30:05PM OUR ADDRESS IS P.O. BOX 273417, TAMPA FLORIDA, 33688.
2:30:11PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
2:30:13PM TODAY I'M HERE WITH MR. NORM RUNK, ONE OF THE OWNERS OF
2:30:16PM 3627 SOUTH HESPERIDES STREET, TO APPEAL THE ZONING
2:30:19PM ADMINISTRATOR DECISION ON SPECIAL USE APPLICATION SU 1-22-60
2:30:23PM SEEKING APPROVAL OF AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE.
2:30:29PM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DENIED THE REQUEST DUE TO THE SIZE
2:30:29PM OF THE PROPOSED EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE EXCEEDING THE
2:30:31PM MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE SIZE OF 600 SQUARE FEET.
2:30:33PM THE ORIGINAL REQUEST WAS FOR A 712-SQUARE-FOOT EXTENDED
2:30:37PM FAMILY UNIT.
2:30:37PM HOWEVER, THAT MEASUREMENT INCLUDED AN EXTERIOR PORCH
2:30:42PM MEASURING 21 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS NOT ACTUALLY COUNTED IN
2:30:45PM THE LIVING SPACE.
2:30:46PM WE ALSO REVISED THE PLAN TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE UNIT TO
2:30:49PM 681 INTERIOR SQUARE FEET WHICH IS STILL ABOVE THE MAXIMUM
2:30:53PM ALLOWABLE SIZE, HOWEVER IT DEMONSTRATES THAT THE APPLICANT
2:30:55PM IS TAKING MEASURES TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE UNIT TO THE
2:30:58PM ABSOLUTE MINIMUM SIZE THAT CAN SUIT THEIR NEEDS.
2:31:00PM AND MR. RUNK WILL ELABORATE ON THAT WHEN HE SPEAKS.
2:31:05PM ABBYE FEELEY, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT
2:31:08PM PRESENTED A WORKSHOP TO CITY COUNCIL IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR
2:31:09PM THAT INCLUDED A DISCUSSION OF PROPOSED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
2:31:13PM AMENDMENT TO ALLOW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS CITYWIDE.
2:31:17PM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCES ARE
2:31:20PM VERY SIMILAR.
2:31:21PM THE SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE OF THE TWO IS THAT THE OCCUPANTS
2:31:23PM OF AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE ARE REQUIRED TO BE EXTENDED
2:31:26PM FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE OWNER OCCUPANTS OF THE PRIMARY
2:31:29PM RESIDENCE.
2:31:29PM THE WORKSHOP PROPOSED THE FOLLOWING LANGUAGE FOR A LAND
2:31:31PM DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT.
2:31:35PM THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC STANDARDS SHALL APPLY TO ALL
2:31:52PM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
2:31:53PM A, AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT SHALL BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM
2:31:56PM OF 950 SQUARE FEET OF LIVING SPACE.
2:31:59PM B, AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT MAY ONLY BE APPROVED WHEN THE
2:32:02PM MAIN RESIDENCE IS OWNER OCCUPIED.
2:32:04PM AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT MAY BE DESIGNED TO BE LOCATED
2:32:07PM WITHIN THE SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING WITH A SEPARATE ENTRANCE
2:32:11PM OR IN AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
2:32:12PM D, AT NO TIME MAY BE THE NUMBER OF UNRELATED OCCUPANTS OF AN
2:32:16PM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT EXCEED TWO.
2:32:18PM CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAND USE POLICY 9.5.6
2:32:23PM STATES, IN ORDER TO CREATE ATTRACTIVE AND AFFORDABLE RENTAL
2:32:27PM LIVING OPPORTUNITIES AND TO PROVIDE GREATER FLEXIBILITY FOR
2:32:30PM HOMEOWNERS, PERMANENT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN
2:32:34PM SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS, SUBJECT TO REGULATIONS DESIGNED TO
2:32:37PM LIMIT IMPACTS AND PROTECT NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER.
2:32:40PM OUR PROPOSED EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE MEETS ALL THE
2:32:43PM REQUIREMENTS OF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT UNDER THE
2:32:47PM PROPOSED CHANGE TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND COULD BE
2:32:49PM PERMITTED IF THE CHANGES WERE ADOPTED.
2:32:51PM I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS NOT CONSIDERED THE
2:32:56PM ADOPTION OF THE LAND USE DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDMENT AT THIS
2:32:58PM TIME, BUT I OFFER THE CONSISTENCY OF OUR REQUEST WITH THE
2:33:00PM LANGUAGE OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT CONVEYS THE
2:33:03PM REASONABLENESS OF OUR REQUEST.
2:33:04PM TAMPA NEEDS MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO ACCOMMODATE
2:33:08PM FORECASTED GROWTH.
2:33:09PM IN FACT, PROVIDING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AT THE CENTER
2:33:11PM OF THE DISCUSSION FOR THE PROPOSED LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
2:33:14PM AMENDMENT.
2:33:14PM THIS REQUEST TO ALLOW A 681 SQUARE FOOT EXTENDED FAMILY
2:33:19PM RESIDENCE TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEEDS OF THIS FAMILY IS ALSO
2:33:23PM BASED IN THE NEED FOR AFFORDABILITY.
2:33:25PM THE REQUEST NEITHER INTERFERES WITH THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS AS
2:33:28PM PROVIDED IN CHAPTER 27 NOR IS INJURIOUS TO THE PUBLIC
2:33:32PM HEALTH, SAFETY, OR GENERAL WELFARE.
2:33:33PM THE REQUEST PROVIDES FOR REASONABLE ALLOWANCE OF USE OF THE
2:33:37PM PROPERTY DUE TO THE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES OF THIS FAMILY.
2:33:40PM THE REQUEST ACHIEVES THE GENERAL INTENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
2:33:44PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE REQUEST IS THE MINIMUM POSSIBLE
2:33:46PM SIZE UNDER THE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES OF THIS FAMILY.
2:33:49PM LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD A LETTER FROM
2:33:53PM ROBERT WEBSTER, MR. RUNK'S STEPSON, AND ONE OF THE OWNER
2:33:59PM OCCUPANTS OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
2:34:00PM GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
2:34:02PM MY NAME IS ROB WEBSTER, AND I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 3627 SOUTH
2:34:07PM HESPERIDES STREET, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
2:34:10PM MY WIFE AND I WERE RAISED IN TAMPA AND FROM 2016 TO '21 WE
2:34:14PM LIVED IN A ONE-STORY HOME BUILT IN 1949 ON EUCLID AVENUE,
2:34:18PM VERY, VERY CLOSE TO WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY BUILDING ON
2:34:21PM HESPERIDES.
2:34:22PM IT WAS OUR FIRST HOME AS MARRIED COUPLE AND WE LOVED LIVING
2:34:27PM THERE UNTIL THE FAMILY EXPANDED TO THE POINT WE NEEDED MORE
2:34:30PM ROOM.
2:34:30PM WE NOW HAVE THREE KIDS ALL UNDER THE AGE OF FIVE.
2:34:32PM WE LOVED THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO MUCH THAT WE DID ALL WE COULD
2:34:35PM TO FIND A LOT THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BUILD OUR FOREVER HOME
2:34:38PM WITH OUR YOUNG KIDS.
2:34:39PM AROUND THE SAME TIME, MY MOTHER WAS UNDERGOING TREATMENT FOR
2:34:41PM CANCER AND MY STEPFATHER WAS DEALING WITH DEBILITATING BACK
2:34:45PM ISSUES WHICH WOULD REQUIRE TWO MAJOR SURGERIES.
2:34:47PM AT THAT POINT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST TO INCLUDE THEM IN
2:34:49PM OUR PLANS AND BUILD THEM AN IN-LAW SUITE SO WE COULD HELP
2:34:52PM TAKE CARE OF THEM AS THEY GOT A LITTLE OLDER.
2:34:54PM MY WIFE IS A REGISTERED NURSE.
2:34:55PM THIS STRUCTURE WILL ONLY BE USED TO HOUSE MY PARENTS.
2:34:58PM WE CERTAINLY DID NOT INTEND TO COME OFF AS INCONSIDERATE AND
2:35:01PM SINCE MOVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN 2016, WE HAVE ALWAYS
2:35:04PM STRIVED TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
2:35:06PM I HEAR AND RESPECT THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO FILED
2:35:09PM LETTERS OF OBJECTION TO THIS REQUEST.
2:35:12PM SINCE RECEIVING THOSE LETTERS, I HAVE SENT LETTERS AND EVEN
2:35:14PM MET FOR BEERS WITH THEM IN AN ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN WHERE WE
2:35:18PM ARE COMING FROM AND MITIGATE THOSE CONCERNS.
2:35:20PM IT IS NOW MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE NEIGHBORS, AT LEAST
2:35:22PM THE ONES I'VE SPOKEN WITH, NO LONGER HAVE OBJECTIONS.
2:35:25PM MY FAMILY AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL
2:35:28PM APPROVE THIS SMALL VARIANCE AND ALLOW US TO BUILD THE SPACE
2:35:30PM FOR MY PARENTS.
2:35:31PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
2:35:33PM I'LL ASK MR. RUNK TO COME OVER.
2:35:35PM YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
2:35:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER THE GENTLEMAN.
2:35:44PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
2:35:45PM NORMAN RUNK.
2:35:46PM I AM ONE OF THE OWNERS OF 3627 SOUTH HESPERIDES STREET, AND
2:35:51PM INTENDED OCCUPANT ALONG WITH MY WIFE JoANN OF THE PROPOSED
2:35:55PM EFR.
2:35:56PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
2:35:57PM WHEN OUR CHILDREN APPROACHED US WITH THE PROPOSAL TO JOIN IN
2:35:59PM THIS ENDEAVOR WE WERE EXCITED.
2:36:01PM WE LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THE CONTINUED GROWTH OF OUR
2:36:03PM FAMILY.
2:36:04PM WE ARE APPROACHING RETIREMENT AND, IN FACT, MY WIFE PLANS ON
2:36:07PM RETIRING IN 28 MONTHS.
2:36:08PM I HOPE TO WORK SIX OR SEVEN MORE YEARS HEALTH PERMITTING.
2:36:12PM I'VE ENDURED THREE BACK SURGERIES OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS,
2:36:15PM AND MY WIFE IS RECOVERING FROM BREAST CANCER.
2:36:17PM THE FACT THAT OUR CHILDREN HAVE OFFERED TO TAKE CARE OF US
2:36:20PM THIS EARLY IS AMAZING.
2:36:21PM WE DESIGNED OUR FOREVER COTTAGE TO COINCIDE WITH THEIR
2:36:24PM FOREVER HOME, KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE GENERALLY, BEDROOM AND
2:36:28PM HAVE NEEDED SEPARATE BEDROOMS DURING MY SURGICAL PROCEDURES
2:36:33PM AND OTHER THINGS.
2:36:34PM WE ARE CURRENTLY ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES, BUT THAT
2:36:37PM MAY CHANGE.
2:36:38PM FINANCIALLY THIS PROPOSAL WOULD CERTAINLY SAVE ENORMOUS
2:36:41PM AMOUNTS OF MONEY IN THE FUTURE SHOULD WE NEED A DIFFERENT
2:36:43PM TYPE OF CARE.
2:36:44PM OUR DAUGHTER-IN-LAW, AS MY SON MENTIONED, IS AN RN AND HAS
2:36:48PM VOLUNTEERED TO HELP IF NEEDED.
2:36:50PM A SEPARATE SPACE MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR US AT THIS TIME
2:36:53PM WHERE WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES AND ENJOY THE DYNAMICS
2:36:56PM OF BEING AROUND OUR GRANDCHILDREN WHILE THEY GROW UP.
2:36:59PM CONSIDERING HOW MUCH SMALLER THAN PROPOSED ADUs ARE IN
2:37:02PM THIS AREA, WE WOULD HOPE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO USE A SMALL
2:37:06PM INCREASE IN SIZE OF THE EFR TO DO SO.
2:37:08PM THANK YOU.
2:37:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:37:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
2:37:13PM SO A FEW THINGS.
2:37:15PM YOUR STEPSON IS ROBERT WEBSTER THE III, CORRECT?
2:37:21PM >> YES.
2:37:22PM >> YES, SIR.
2:37:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MENTIONED IN THIS
2:37:26PM LETTER, HIS MOTHER WHO HAD UNDERGONE TREATMENT FOR CANCER IS
2:37:29PM YOUR WIFE AND YOU HAVE THE DEBILITATING BACK ISSUES,
2:37:32PM CORRECT?
2:37:32PM >> CORRECT.
2:37:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WOULD
2:37:35PM POTENTIALLY LIVE IN THIS UNIT IN THE FUTURE.
2:37:36PM >> CORRECT, MY WIFE AND I.
2:37:38PM JoANN RUNK, MY WIFE, HIS MOTHER.
2:37:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GLAD THAT THIS IS BROUGHT UP
2:37:47PM REGARDING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND HOW OUR CODE DOESN'T
2:37:54PM ADDRESS WHAT YOU'RE COMING BEFORE US WITH.
2:37:57PM THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH HOUSING, HOUSING STOCK, HOUSING
2:38:04PM AFFORDABILITY AND WHATNOT.
2:38:06PM OUR CODE ALLOWS US, I BELIEVE 650 SQUARE FEET OR 600, AND
2:38:10PM YOU'RE ASKING FOR 681.
2:38:13PM >> YES.
2:38:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S A MINIMAL INCREASE.
2:38:17PM REGARDLESS, YOU'RE ASKING BECAUSE IT'S BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE
2:38:20PM WITHIN OUR CODE.
2:38:21PM I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHAT I SAY JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY
2:38:28PM PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:38:29PM I DON'T HAVE TO TESTIFY OR WHATNOT.
2:38:30PM I'LL STOP THERE.
2:38:31PM I MAY HAVE MORE COMMENTS FURTHER.
2:38:33PM I JUST WANTED SOME CLARITY.
2:38:35PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:38:38PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FOR THE CITY
2:38:39PM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
2:38:41PM I WANT TO CORRECT THE RECORD THAT THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR
2:38:43PM AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE, NOT AN ACCESSORY DWELLING
2:38:47PM UNIT.
2:38:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU PLEASE COME BACK TO THE PODIUM?
2:38:56PM ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS?
2:38:58PM I'LL LET COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SPEAK FIRST.
2:39:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WOULD YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE SO THE
2:39:03PM PEOPLE LISTENING CAN UNDERSTAND, EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE
2:39:07PM BETWEEN FAMILY UNIT AND --
2:39:09PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MS. MARLEY IS AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE
2:39:11PM CLARIFICATION ON THE RECORD ABOUT THAT.
2:39:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE -- I
2:39:18PM UNDERSTAND THAT PART, BUT THE PROBLEM IS THAT SOMEBODY IS
2:39:21PM GOING TO SAY, WELL, YOU DID IT HERE, NOW I WANT IT HERE, I
2:39:24PM WANT IT HERE, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE --
2:39:27PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MS. MARLEY NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO PUT
2:39:29PM ON THE RECORD THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN EXTENDED FAMILY
2:39:33PM RESIDENCE AND AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
2:39:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SHE'S UP ON THE SCREEN.
2:39:38PM >>LAURA MARLEY: LAURA MARLEY, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:39:40PM THE EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE IT'S LIMITED TO THE 600 FEET.
2:39:45PM IT'S ONLY FOR A TEMPORARY, AND THEN THEY DON'T PAY RENT, AND
2:39:53PM THEN IT'S UNDER THE SU-1 APPLICATION.
2:39:57PM SO THERE ARE CERTAIN AREAS THAT YOU CAN DO THE EXTENDED
2:40:00PM FAMILY.
2:40:00PM THE ADU IS ALLOWED IN OTHER AREAS AND IT HAS ANOTHER LIST OF
2:40:12PM REQUIREMENTS.
2:40:13PM IT CAN BE RENTED OUT.
2:40:16PM THE MAXIMUM I BELIEVE IS 650.
2:40:19PM I DON'T HAVE THE CODE UP.
2:40:21PM THEY CAN PAY RENT.
2:40:23PM AND, AGAIN, IT'S UNDER AN SU-1 APPLICATION.
2:40:27PM SO THIS ONE IS FOR AN EXTENDED FAMILY, AGAIN, FOR TEMPORARY.
2:40:32PM IT'S LIMITED TO FAMILY.
2:40:33PM AND THEN IT'S LIMITED TO TWO PEOPLE AND A TEMPORARY.
2:40:39PM THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN ADU BECAUSE ADU CAN BE RENTED.
2:40:45PM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FAMILY MEMBERS.
2:40:48PM SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WITH THESE TWO.
2:40:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THE ADU?
2:40:54PM >>LAURA MARLEY: LET ME GO TO THAT CODE REQUIREMENT.
2:40:56PM 950 SQUARE FEET.
2:41:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
2:41:37PM WHILE WE HAVE YOU THERE, DOES AN EXTENDED FAMILY UNIT HAVE
2:41:43PM KITCHENS?
2:41:46PM >>LAURA MARLEY: YES, THEY CAN.
2:41:47PM YES.
2:41:48PM IT'S A SEPARATE UNIT, SO THEY CAN HAVE A KITCHEN.
2:41:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST CHECKING.
2:41:54PM THANK YOU.
2:41:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY WAY OF, NOT IN
2:42:01PM THIS CASE, BUT IN ANY OTHER CASE TO FOLLOW UP ON A YEARLY
2:42:05PM BASIS TO MAKE SURE THAT'S WHAT IT IS, TEN YEARS FROM NOW?
2:42:09PM >>LAURA MARLEY: YES.
2:42:10PM WE DO YEARLY.
2:42:12PM THERE HAVE BEEN INSPECTIONS IN THE PAST.
2:42:15PM WE DO SEND LETTERS OUT.
2:42:16PM WE DO ASK FOR THEM TO COME BACK TO US AND LET US KNOW THEY
2:42:23PM ARE STILL USING THE EXTENDED FAMILY OR ACCESSORY DWELLING
2:42:25PM UNIT.
2:42:26PM THEY NEED TO TELL US WHO IS THERE, AND THEY STILL NEED IT.
2:42:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES THE CITY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO A
2:42:36PM PHYSICAL INSPECTION THEMSELVES?
2:42:38PM >>LAURA MARLEY: WE DO SERVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT, YES.
2:42:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ANY PART IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, HAS ANYONE
2:42:45PM EVER BEEN DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS APPLIED FOR?
2:42:48PM >>LAURA MARLEY: YES.
2:42:49PM SOMETIMES THEY DO CHANGE OUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING
2:42:52PM THERE.
2:42:53PM BUT THEY NEED TO PROVE TO US THAT IT'S STILL NEEDED UNDER
2:42:58PM EITHER THE EXTENDED FAMILY CARE OR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
2:43:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID, BUT HAS
2:43:04PM ANYONE EVER BEEN REMOVED FROM AN ADU OR WHATEVER IT IS
2:43:08PM BECAUSE IT CHANGED?
2:43:11PM >>LAURA MARLEY: WE'VE CITED PEOPLE.
2:43:13PM WHEN WE DO GO OUT OR WE DO HAVE SOMETHING WHERE SEPARATE
2:43:19PM PEOPLE ARE LIVING THERE, IT'S NOT THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES, IT
2:43:23PM GOES TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND IT IS CITED THROUGH CODE
2:43:26PM ENFORCEMENT.
2:43:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HAS ANYONE EVER BEEN REMOVED FROM THERE
2:43:30PM BECAUSE IT WASN'T A FAMILY?
2:43:32PM >>LAURA MARLEY: THAT I AM UNAWARE OF.
2:43:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
2:43:43PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE TO SPEAK TO THIS?
2:43:51PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE -- SEEING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO
2:43:58PM CLOSE.
2:43:59PM REBUTTAL AFTER ALL THESE PEOPLE SPOKE?
2:44:07PM >> NO THANK YOU.
2:44:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE
2:44:16PM LETTER FROM MR. WEBSTER.
2:44:19PM WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY HERE IN OPPOSITION, WHICH DOESN'T MEAN
2:44:22PM ANYTHING.
2:44:22PM MAYBE THOSE FOLKS WERE NOT ABLE TO COME HERE, AND I'M JUST
2:44:27PM GOING BY WHAT'S IN THE LETTER.
2:44:29PM I APPRECIATE THAT HE'S MADE AN ATTEMPT TO MEET WITH THE
2:44:32PM NEIGHBORS.
2:44:33PM THIS IS AGAIN HIS WORDS AND HIS OPINION.
2:44:35PM I DIDN'T HEAR FROM ANY OTHER SIDES, TRYING TO MITIGATE THESE
2:44:39PM CONCERNS.
2:44:39PM I CAN UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST
2:44:44PM ASSUMPTIONS, BUT WANTING TO HAVE YOUR PARENTS NEAR YOU OR
2:44:47PM WITH YOU BECAUSE, AS WE GET OLDER, HOUSING IS AN ISSUE.
2:44:51PM THAT'S ANOTHER DISCUSSION, BUT BEING THAT THE WIFE IS A
2:44:55PM REGISTERED NURSE, WHATEVER.
2:44:57PM IT'S BESIDES THE POINT AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IN THIS, BUT I
2:45:01PM CAN UNDERSTAND WHY WE SHOULD OVERTURN THE DECISION AND
2:45:04PM APPROVE THIS, CONSIDERING THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IN TAMPA
2:45:12PM AND OTHER ISSUES THAT GO WITH THIS.
2:45:16PM YOU'RE PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE, WHEN THAT TIME COMES, THAT
2:45:20PM YOU'LL BE CLOSE WITH YOUR FAMILY AND EVERYONE IS ABLE TO
2:45:23PM TAKE CARE OF EACH OTHER.
2:45:24PM AND MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.
2:45:28PM I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE AND THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION
2:45:31PM FOLLOWING THAT.
2:45:32PM >> SECOND.
2:45:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
2:45:39PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:45:40PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:45:42PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
2:45:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I MAY MAKE A MOTION?
2:45:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURELY.
2:45:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE ZONING
2:45:48PM ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL.
2:45:50PM I'VE GIVEN SOME FACTS AND OPINIONS, BUT I MOVE TO OVERTURN
2:45:53PM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF THE SPECIAL USE 1
2:45:56PM APPLICATION, SU-1-22-60, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
2:46:01PM 3627 SOUTH HESPERIDES STREET, BECAUSE THE SPECIFIC STANDARDS
2:46:10PM SET FORTH IN CODE SECTION 27-132 REGARDING EXTENDED FAMILY
2:46:15PM RESIDENCE AND THE GENERAL STANDARDS SET FORTH IN CODE
2:46:17PM SECTION 27-129 SHOULD BE WAIVED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS:
2:46:22PM NUMBER ONE, THE INCREASE IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM WHAT'S
2:46:27PM ALREADY ALLOWED IS MINIMAL.
2:46:29PM NUMBER TWO, THE DIFFERENCE THAT WAS ALREADY EXPLAINED
2:46:31PM BETWEEN AN EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCE THAT YOU CANNOT COLLECT
2:46:35PM THE RENT LIKE YOU WOULD AN ADU, AND THIS IS PER THE LETTER
2:46:38PM AND THE TESTIMONY THAT WE RECEIVED, THIS IS FOR FAMILY, FOR
2:46:42PM PARENTS, AND WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT.
2:46:44PM I FEEL THAT THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT IN MAKING THIS MOTION
2:46:51PM TO OVERTURN THE DENIAL, THEREFORE APPROVING IT.
2:46:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:46:57PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:46:59PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:47:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD SUPPORT THE MOTION
2:47:03PM IF IT WAS 600 FEET.
2:47:05PM I WOULD SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT GOES WITH IT.
2:47:07PM BUT I JUST CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A CASE
2:47:10PM NOW WHERE SOMEBODY IS POINTING FINGERS THAT WE LET SOMEBODY
2:47:14PM UNDER 600 FEET DO IT AND SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE.
2:47:19PM I KNOW WHAT THE WEBSTERS ARE DOING, BUT I CAN'T SUPPORT IT
2:47:22PM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO OVER THE 600 SQUARE FOOT LIMIT.
2:47:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
2:47:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
2:47:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:47:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:47:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
2:47:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:47:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I SHOULD HAVE SAID THIS EARLIER, I DON'T
2:47:47PM LIKE THIS.
2:47:49PM THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THIS COULD GO SIDEWAYS.
2:47:54PM THIS IS ALMOST AS BIG AS MY SO-CALLED LUXURY CONDOMINIUM ON
2:47:57PM BAYSHORE.
2:47:58PM I ONLY HAVE 715 SQUARE FEET.
2:48:00PM MY QUESTION IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THIS, WHAT HAPPENS AFTER
2:48:05PM YOU MOVE OUT OF THE HOUSE?
2:48:07PM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THIS CHANGES HANDS?
2:48:08PM ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE ASSURED THAT THIS IS NOT
2:48:11PM RENTED OUT?
2:48:11PM HOW CAN WE BE ASSURED THAT THIS IS GOING TO STAY CONFORMED
2:48:19PM TO A MOTHER-IN-LAW OR A RELATIVE SUITE?
2:48:23PM I CAN'T GET ANY ANSWERS ON THAT.
2:48:25PM FOR THAT I WILL HAVE TO VOTE NO.
2:48:27PM SO THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOME SORT OF OTHER MOTION MADE.
2:48:31PM 3-3.
2:48:35PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION IS 3-3 WITH CARLSON ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:48:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULAR
2:48:42PM MEETING.
2:48:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO HAVE FULL COUNCIL.
2:48:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF A MOTION IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER
2:48:57PM FAILS TO RECEIVE AT LEAST FOUR VOTE, THE MOTION FAILS.
2:49:00PM IF ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER IS NOT MADE, THE PUBLIC HEARING
2:49:02PM SHALL BE AUTOMATICALLY REOPENED AND CONTINUED TO A TIME
2:49:05PM CERTAIN AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING.
2:49:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE NEED ANOTHER MOTION?
2:49:16PM >> MOTION TO MOVE IT TO THE NEXT ONE.
2:49:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:49:20PM WHAT DATE AND TIME WAS THAT?
2:49:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 2, TIME CERTAIN, 1:30.
2:49:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TIME CERTAIN, RIGHT AFTER THE OTHER ONE.
2:49:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT SHOULD BE VERY QUICK, ACTUALLY.
2:49:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:49:34PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA OR GUDES?
2:49:37PM ALL IN FAVOR --
2:49:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
2:49:41PM DATE AND TIME AGAIN AND ALSO SPECIFICALLY THE TIME.
2:49:43PM >>THE CLERK: MARCH 2, 2023 AT 1:30 P.M.
2:49:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING IT INSTEAD RIGHT
2:49:51PM AFTER --
2:49:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WOULD HAVE TO BE RIGHT AFTER THE ITEM
2:49:54PM COMING AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:49:56PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
2:50:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT DID YOU SET THE OTHER ONE FOR?
2:50:04PM >>THE CLERK: RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:50:06PM SET FOR 9:00.
2:50:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
2:50:09PM 9:00.
2:50:09PM SECOND ITEM AFTER PUBLIC COMMENTS, 9:00.
2:50:12PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
2:50:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU CLEAR AS TO WHAT HAPPENED?
2:50:37PM IT IS A TIE VOTE.
2:50:38PM THE FOURTH VOTE WILL HAVE TO BE THE DECIDING VOTE.
2:50:41PM >> YES, I UNDERSTAND.
2:50:42PM WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE WHEN WE COME BACK?
2:50:45PM WILL THERE BE TESTIMONY AGAIN?
2:50:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR, NOT NECESSARY, UNLESS THERE IS A
2:50:49PM SPECIFIC QUESTION OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO IS GOING TO BE
2:50:50PM HERE.
2:50:51PM THAT PERSON WILL REVIEW THE RECORD AND BE PREPARED TO VOTE.
2:50:55PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
2:50:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
2:51:00PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:51:01PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:51:07PM COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
2:51:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NONE.
2:51:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:51:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
2:51:13PM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND A MOTION I MADE ON
2:51:15PM FEBRUARY 2 PERTAINING TO A REQUEST FOR A STAFF REPORT ON
2:51:18PM VIOLATIONS OF ILLEGAL STRUCTURES.
2:51:20PM THIS MATTER HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED TO CITY COUNCIL AND
2:51:23PM IS NO LONGER NECESSARY.
2:51:24PM I HAVE A COPY OF THAT MEMO WITH ALL THE DETAILS OF WHAT'S
2:51:29PM ENFORCED, HOW WE DO.
2:51:30PM IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS BECAUSE I KNOW WE ALL GET CALLS ON
2:51:33PM THIS, THIS IS ALREADY PUBLIC RECORD.
2:51:36PM JANUARY 11.
2:51:38PM I'M HAPPY TO MAKE COPIES FOR EVERYONE SO THEY KNOW.
2:51:41PM BUT THAT'S MY MOTION TO RESCIND THAT.
2:51:44PM >> SECOND.
2:51:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
2:51:46PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:51:47PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:51:48PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:51:48PM MOTION PASSES.
2:51:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE LAST ITEM, VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO
2:51:53PM MARTIN SHELBY.
2:51:54PM IT WILL BE THIS WEEKEND AND JUST HAPPY BIRTHDAY AND I HOPE
2:51:59PM YOU HAVE AN ENJOYABLE DAY.
2:52:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
2:52:03PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:52:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST REALLY QUICK, I DON'T KNOW IF I MOTIONED
2:52:07PM FOR THIS.
2:52:07PM I WAS GIVING OFF-SITE THE GEORGE EDGECOMB BAR ASSOCIATION,
2:52:11PM IT WAS THEIR 40th ANNIVERSARY.
2:52:12PM I WAS GOING TO GIVE OFF-SITE COMMENDATION FOR THEM.
2:52:16PM DID I DO THAT ALREADY?
2:52:17PM I'LL DO IT AGAIN.
2:52:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:52:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:52:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:52:23PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:52:24PM MOTION CARRIED.
2:52:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE FOR THE FIRST WEEK IN MAY JUST FOR A
2:52:32PM STAFF REPORT, PROBABLY WON'T BE LIVE, ON TRAFFIC-CALMING
2:52:36PM MEASURES THAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE SAFETY ON BOUGAINVILLEA.
2:52:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:52:42PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:52:44PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:52:45PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:52:47PM MOTION CARRIES.
2:52:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY, THERE IS A HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 129
2:52:53PM WHICH WOULD SEEK TO INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE FOR VOTER-LED
2:52:57PM INITIATIVES IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA FROM 60% TO 66 2/3.
2:53:01PM IF YOU KNOW THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING IN TALLAHASSEE WITH
2:53:04PM MORE CONCENTRATION OF POWER, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK
2:53:08PM DOES STAND A DECENT CHANCE OF PASSING, UNFORTUNATELY.
2:53:11PM I THINK IT'S AWFUL.
2:53:13PM IF YOU LOOK AT 60% I THINK IS REASONABLE BECAUSE YOU DO WANT
2:53:16PM TO HAVE A LEVEL THRESHOLD BUT IF YOU LOOK AT 66% OR
2:53:20PM TWO-THIRDS, AMENDMENT FOUR THAT PASSED WITH ABOUT 64%
2:53:24PM WOULDN'T HAVE PASSED.
2:53:25PM TO ME, THIS IS JUST A CONTINUED ROUT OF FLORIDA AND
2:53:30PM TALLAHASSEE TO TRY TO GO AWAY IN MY OPINION FROM THE KIND OF
2:53:33PM STATE THAT WE ARE.
2:53:34PM I'VE BEEN, LIFELONG FLORIDIAN, TO ME, WE ARE THE STATE OF
2:53:38PM BOB GRAHAM, LAWTON CHILES, GOVERNOR AND MAYOR BOB MARTINEZ
2:53:42PM AND CONNIE MACK THAT IS WELL WITHIN THE MAINSTREAM IN WHAT I
2:53:46PM SEE RIGHT NOW TO ME IS FAR FROM THAT.
2:53:48PM AND THIS IS CONTINUING TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE.
2:53:51PM I MOVE IF I MAY TO DO A CITY COUNCIL LETTER FOR OPPOSING
2:53:55PM THAT HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT WOULD PRECLUDE US
2:53:58PM FROM DOING A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT
2:54:01PM STATE SUPPORT.
2:54:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
2:54:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:54:05PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:54:06PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:54:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
2:54:08PM THANK YOU, SIR.
2:54:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN, GO AHEAD, SIR.
2:54:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURE.
2:54:14PM DON'T WANT TO LEAVE?
2:54:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE HERE FOR YOU.
2:54:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GREAT ARTICLE IN THE TAMPA BAY BUSINESS
2:54:19PM JOURNAL WRITTEN BY MR. HENRY QUEEN.
2:54:23PM TWO WEEKS AGO, GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS SAID THAT -- CALLED FOR
2:54:28PM REFUND PROCESS FOR THE ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION.
2:54:31PM YESTERDAY, WEDNESDAY, THE COMMISSIONERS VOTED 4-2 IN FAVOR
2:54:37PM TO ASK FOR THE COUNTY'S WISH LIST FOR THE $570 MILLION WITH
2:54:45PM ONE COMMISSIONER ABSTAINING.
2:54:47PM NOW, THEIR WISH LIST, THERE IS TWO, FOUR, SIX, SEVEN ON
2:54:54PM THEIR WISH LIST, ALL BUT ONE ARE NOT WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
2:55:00PM SO ANYTIME CITY RESIDENTS ARE DRIVING DOWN, SAY, BAYSHORE,
2:55:07PM KENNEDY BOULEVARD, COLUMBUS, ARMENIA, HOWARD, WESTSHORE, I
2:55:13PM ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONTACT YOUR COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO
2:55:16PM HAVE THOSE ROADS REPAVED.
2:55:19PM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BRAG ON THE CITY OF TAMPA.
2:55:23PM LAST NIGHT AT TAMPA'S DOWNTOWN URBAN EXCELLENCE AWARD,
2:55:26PM BRANDIE MIKLUS GOT AWARDED WITH HER ROLE IN THE RENOVATION
2:55:33PM OF THE UNION STATION BAGGAGE BUILDING.
2:55:36PM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, BRANDIE.
2:55:37PM AND THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT WAS ALSO GIVEN AN AWARD FOR
2:55:44PM THE LITTER SKIMMER BOAT.
2:55:47PM I DO WANT TO ALSO CONGRATULATE THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA, THE
2:55:51PM MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, AND THE COMPANY'S CPI, WHO MY
2:55:58PM GIRLFRIEND PAULA FLORES WORKS FOR, THEY WERE NOMINATED FOR
2:56:00PM THE REDESIGN OF THE CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
2:56:04PM SO CONGRATULATIONS CITY OF TAMPA.
2:56:06PM CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE AWARD WINNERS.
2:56:08PM AND THAT'S IT FOR ME.
2:56:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
2:56:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
2:56:13PM MANISCALCO.
2:56:13PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:56:15PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:56:16PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:56:17PM MOTION PASSES.
2:56:17PM WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
2:56:18PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
2:56:21PM
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