Tampa City Council
Thursday, February 23, 2023
5:01 p.m.
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05:04:10PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
05:04:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TAMPA CITY COUNCIL EVENING SESSION IS NOW IN
05:04:16PM SESSION.
05:04:16PM ROLL CALL.
05:04:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:04:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:04:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:04:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:04:31PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:04:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:04:35PM CAN I HAVE A MOTION --
05:04:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
05:04:43PM MOVE WAIVE THE RULES.
05:04:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:04:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:04:48PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:04:50PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:04:51PM OPPOSED?
05:04:52PM MOTION PASSES.
05:04:53PM OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS.
05:04:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
05:04:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:05:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:05:02PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:05:04PM MOTION CARRIES.
05:05:05PM ALL RIGHT, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:05:08PM LET'S GO THROUGH THE -- THE AGENDA, PLEASE, BECAUSE I KNOW
05:05:13PM THERE IS A CONTINUANCE.
05:05:15PM I BELIEVE THAT THAT IS -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:05:25PM >> ITEM NUMBER 5 CONTINUANCE TO THE MARCH 23, 2023 AT 5:01.
05:05:38PM FOR FILE NO. AB2-23-04.
05:05:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 5, MARCH
05:05:49PM 23, 2023.
05:05:49PM 5:01.
05:05:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
05:05:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:05:56PM THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
05:05:57PM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO FILE NO.
05:06:02PM AB2-23-04 TO THE CONTINUE BANS ONLY?
05:06:06PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
05:06:09PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:06:10PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:06:15PM ANY OWE POSED?
05:06:18PM MOTION PASSES.
05:06:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MAY, CITY COUNCIL GOT AN E-MAIL WHAT
05:06:22PM IS HAPPENING WITH THIS CASE, AND I WANT TO STATE THAT THE
05:06:24PM MOTION TO CONTINUE IT TO MARCH 23, 2023 AT 5:01 P.M. HAS
05:06:29PM BEEN GRANTED AND NO FURTHER NOTICE MAILED OUT TO ANYBODY WHO
05:06:34PM WAS GOING TO BE INTERESTED IN THAT MEETING SO THEY SHOULD
05:06:36PM MAKE A NOTE OF THAT.
05:06:38PM THANK YOU.
05:06:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHELBY.
05:06:42PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, FILE NO. E2023-8 CH 27.
05:06:45PM >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:06:54PM ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:06:56PM TEXT AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 27.
05:06:57PM I HAVE A VERY QUICK, QUICK POWERPOINT TO MOVE THROUGH.
05:07:02PM THESE WERE FIRST TO INTRODUCE COUNCIL IN JUNE 2022.
05:07:09PM WORKSHOPED IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER AND WE ARE
05:07:13PM BEFORE YOU FOR ADOPTION OF THE HEARING OF THE FIRST READING
05:07:15PM OF THE TEXT AMENDMENTS.
05:07:16PM FIRST ONE IS ALTERNATIVE DESIGN LANGUAGE FOR 27-06 THAT
05:07:20PM WOULD REQUIRE NOTICE TO EVERYONE INVOLVED.
05:07:25PM THIS IS CITYWIDE.
05:07:26PM OVERLAY DISTRICTS AND SPECIAL DISTRICTS ALLOW FOR DESIGN
05:07:29PM EXCEPTIONS FOR SETBACK REQUEST.
05:07:32PM THIS WILL REQUIRE NOTICE FOR THE TYPICAL 250 FEET, THE SIGN
05:07:36PM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS FOR PARTICIPATING
05:07:39PM ORGANIZATIONS.
05:07:39PM ADOPTION OF 27-181.2, WHICH IS THE PROCEDURES FOR THE DDR,
05:07:46PM THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT DESIGN REVIEWS WHICH IS HOW DOWNTOWN
05:07:50PM DEVELOPMENTS GET MADE, GET CONSTRUCTED AND BUILT.
05:07:53PM A CHANGE TO THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT.
05:07:57PM AS YOU RECALL A LOT OF -- THE CODE REQUIRES PEOPLE TO USE
05:08:01PM ALLEYWAYS WHEN POSSIBLE.
05:08:03PM A LOT OF PEOPLE DO ASK FOR WAIVERS FROM THAT REQUIREMENT.
05:08:07PM IF THERE IS A WAIVER GRANTED ADMINISTRATIVELY OR AN APPEAL
05:08:11PM OR DENIAL FROM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR THIS SETS FORTH CODE
05:08:15PM REQUIREMENTS.
05:08:15PM THE LAST ONE ACCESS ON TO RESIDENTIAL ACCESS ONTO LOCAL
05:08:22PM STREETS.
05:08:22PM 150 FEET OF THE ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR ROADWAY, YOU WILL HAVE
05:08:27PM ACCESS TO A STREET.
05:08:28PM THIS IS THE EXAMPLE WE USED THE TAHITIAN INN PROPERTY WHERE
05:08:33PM THEIR ACCESS IS WITHIN 150 FEET.
05:08:35PM IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
05:08:40PM ANSWER THEM FOR YOU.
05:08:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:08:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST ONE?
05:08:47PM >>ERIC COTTON: THE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
05:08:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, PLEASE.
05:08:51PM THIS SHOULD BE A SUPPLEMENTAL NOTICE, CORRECT.
05:08:55PM >>ERIC COTTON: A NOTICE FOR A REGULAR VARIANCE IT WILL BE
05:08:58PM THE SAME NOTICE THAT WE GO OUT FOR THAT.
05:09:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE GIVE A MORE SPECIFIC CHANGE TO
05:09:07PM ACTUALLY SAY IF IT IS A SUPPLEMENTAL NOTICE.
05:09:10PM >>ERIC COTTON: AN AMENDMENT THAT REFERS BACK TO 27-149 WHICH
05:09:14PM IS -- WHICH ARE THE PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CITY.
05:09:17PM SO ON THE -- IT IS FOR SETBACK REDUCTIONS AND SETS BACK TO
05:09:23PM DOING NOTICE PER 27-149 AS ALL PUBLIC NOTICES DONE IN THE
05:09:28PM CITY.
05:09:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW, I -- THE FEEDBACK I AM GETTING
05:09:35PM FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THAT THEY WANT TO KNOW IT IS A
05:09:39PM SUPPLEMENTAL, ADDITIONAL NOTICE.
05:09:41PM >>ERIC COTTON: RIGHT NOW NO NOTICE IS REQUIRED AT ALL.
05:09:43PM THIS IS INSTITUTING THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE NOTICE.
05:09:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
05:09:46PM AND I ACTUALLY TALKED TO MR. BENSON ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THE
05:09:58PM SECOND, THE NEXT ONE --
05:10:00PM >>ERIC COTTON: I PUT THEM OUT OF ORDER SO HOLD ON A SEC.
05:10:04PM THE DDR OR DESIGN EXCEPTION?
05:10:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU PUT THEM OUT OF ORDER --
05:10:11PM >>ERIC COTTON: MY SLIDES ARE IN ORDER BUT THEY WERE OUT WHEN
05:10:14PM I PUT THEM ON THE SLIDE.
05:10:16PM THE DESIGN REVIEW OR --
05:10:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
05:10:21PM ACTUALLY THEN -- HOLD ON.
05:10:23PM CAN WE GO TO THE ONE ABOUT SETBACKS, PLEASE.
05:10:29PM >>ERIC COTTON: THE FIRST ONE, YES, MA'AM.
05:10:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S CORRECT.
05:10:32PM FIRST ONE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
05:10:34PM I WAS TALKING TO MR. BENSON ABOUT THIS.
05:10:36PM NOT THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT DESIGN -- OH, MR. BENSON, WHICH
05:10:43PM ONE WERE WE TALKING ABOUT?
05:10:45PM THE FIRST ONE?
05:10:46PM OKAY.
05:10:46PM BECAUSE THIS IS -- THIS IS THE BIG ISSUE THAT I HAVE WITH
05:10:50PM THIS.
05:10:51PM WE NOT -- WE NEED TO NOT APPROVE FOR SETBACKS.
05:10:59PM WE NEED TO DO IT FOR ANYTHING.
05:11:01PM ANY TIME THERE IS A DESIGN EXCEPTION.
05:11:03PM I SAY THIS AS A FORMER NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER.
05:11:07PM I WAS TALKING TO MR. BENSON ABOUT A VERY PARTICULAR PROPERTY
05:11:10PM THAT I JUST NOTICED THE CHANGE ON WHEN I AM WALKING MY DOG.
05:11:14PM AND THINGS I KNOW AREN'T ALLOWED IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
05:11:18PM OVERLAY DISTRICT AND WE GET NO INFORMATION WHY IT HAPPENED,
05:11:21PM HOW IT HAPPENED.
05:11:22PM SO ANY TIME THERE IS A DESIGN EXCEPTION, THE NEIGHBORS NEED
05:11:27PM TO BE NOTIFIED OF IT.
05:11:29PM >>ERIC COTTON: OKAY.
05:11:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS ONLY A SETBACK NOTIFICATION.
05:11:33PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, MA'AM, THIS IS --
05:11:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM FIND WITH THE SETBACK NOTIFICATION AND
05:11:38PM HOWEVER THIS NEEDS TO GO FURTHER.
05:11:40PM I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN ADDITIONALLY A -- MR. BENSON AND I
05:11:46PM TALKED OF DIFFERENT WAYS WE COULD NOTIFY THE PUBLIC, BUT WE
05:11:50PM NEED TO BE ABLE TO NOTIFY THE PUBLIC AND NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT
05:11:54PM ALL OF THESE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS UNTIL WE HAVE A BETTER HANDLE
05:11:57PM ON THE CODE.
05:11:58PM IN THEORY, THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS OVERLAY WAS SUPPOSED TO
05:12:01PM PREVENT A LOT OF THESE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS FROM HAPPENING.
05:12:04PM THAT IS NOT HAPPENING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD; HOWEVER, HOW
05:12:08PM COULD IT BE HAPPENING THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE
05:12:10PM AS NEARLY AS STRICT STANDARDS AS WE DO.
05:12:13PM SO IT'S -- IT'S JUST VERY FRUSTRATING FOR NEIGHBORHOOD
05:12:18PM LEADERS WHO ARE DOING THIS ON THEIR VOLUNTEER TIME TO KEEP
05:12:22PM UP ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE CITY.
05:12:24PM WHY I DO SUPPORT OUR SETBACKS, I REALLY, REALLY WANT IT TO
05:12:29PM BE FOR ALL DESIGN EXCEPTIONS GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
05:12:32PM >>ERIC COTTON: WE CAN BRING BACK ANOTHER TEXT AMENDMENT IN
05:12:36PM THE FUTURE FOR THE NEXT CYCLE, WHICH WILL BE --
05:12:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. BENSON AND I SPOKE ABOUT THAT, BUT WE
05:12:42PM WANTED TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT, YES, THIS IS GREAT FOR
05:12:46PM SETBACKS.
05:12:46PM AND EVERYONE -- THE EXAMPLES I WAS GIVING HIM ARE -- IN
05:12:50PM OVERLAY DISTRICT IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO
05:12:53PM HAVE -- IF YOUR GARAGE IS ATTACHED TO A HOUSE, A CERTAIN NUMBER
05:12:58PM OF FEET BEHIND THE FRONT DOOR AND RIBBON DRIVEWAYS.
05:13:03PM WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF DEFINITION IN THE CODE FOR THOSE
05:13:05PM THINGS AND THAT IS WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET AROUND STUFF.
05:13:08PM WE NEED TO CLOSE SOME LOOPHOLES.
05:13:11PM NEIGHBORS NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS SO IF
05:13:14PM THEY HAVE PROBLEMS IT WE CAN HANDLE IT BEFORE THEY JUST SEE
05:13:17PM IT BEING BUILT.
05:13:19PM >>ERIC COTTON: UNDERSTOOD.
05:13:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU GOOD?
05:13:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:13:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:13:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE LAST WAS THE CHICK-FIL-A ON DALE
05:13:33PM MABRY PROPERTY?
05:13:34PM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
05:13:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TELL ME WHY YOU USE THAT PHOTO.
05:13:38PM WHAT EXAMPLE ARE YOU USING FOR THAT.
05:13:41PM >>ERIC COTTON: WHERE DID IT GO.
05:13:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE LAST PHOTO.
05:13:45PM >>ERIC COTTON: EXAMPLE OF ACCESS ON TO A LOCAL STREET.
05:13:49PM THIS WENT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
05:13:50PM WHAT THIS WILL ALLOW BY RIGHT -- SO THERE IS A
05:13:54PM DISCOURAGEMENT BY FDOT AND TO TAKE PEOPLE OFF -- NOT HAVE SO
05:14:00PM MANY DRIVEWAY CUTS.
05:14:01PM FORCE PEOPLE TO GO ON TO THE LOCAL STREET AND ACCESSING THE
05:14:06PM STREET THAN MAKING A QUICK TURN.
05:14:07PM COMING PAST THIS EXIT WHERE -- WHAT IS THIS -- WEST DALE
05:14:11PM AVENUE AND, BOOM, YOU HAVE AN ENTRANCE --
05:14:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN YOU SAY NONRESIDENTIAL ACCESS TO A
05:14:18PM LOCAL STREET.
05:14:18PM I WAS HERE FOR A VOTE.
05:14:20PM DIDN'T WE HAVE A SIGN THAT SAID NO LEFT TURN INTO THE
05:14:23PM NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT, AT LEAST ON THE --
05:14:26PM >>ERIC COTTON: ON THE PD, THERE MIGHT.
05:14:28PM I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PD.
05:14:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:14:33PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:14:35PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
05:14:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:14:40PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:14:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW IS THIS BEING HANDLED NOW.
05:14:43PM AND DOES THIS MEAN ALL WILL BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY?
05:14:49PM >>ERIC COTTON: THIS RIGHT NOW?
05:14:50PM THIS COMES BEFORE COUNCIL AS A PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO GET
05:14:54PM ACCESS TO THE LOCAL STREET.
05:14:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT WHAT -- IT WOULD BE APPROVED
05:14:59PM ADMINISTRATIVELY.
05:15:00PM >>ERIC COTTON: IF FOR SOME REASON THEY CAN NOT HAVE ACCESS
05:15:02PM TO EITHER THE STATE ROAD OR -- OR A MAIN -- AN ARTERIAL
05:15:09PM COLLECTOR BECAUSE MOBILITY IS RECOMMENDING AGAINST HAVING
05:15:11PM ANOTHER CURB CUT 50 FEET FROM HERE AND 100 FEET FROM HERE.
05:15:14PM IT WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS ON TO THE -- ONTO THE
05:15:19PM LOCAL STREET.
05:15:20PM WHATEVER THE SAFETY CONCERN.
05:15:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: HAS ANY OF THESE BEEN -- I KNOW WE ARE NOT
05:15:25PM DOING QUIET ONE AND ANY OF THESE BEING FOR SPECIFIC
05:15:30PM PROJECTS?
05:15:30PM >>ERIC COTTON: FOR THE TEXT AMENDMENT?
05:15:32PM THEY WERE BROUGHT BY STAFF IN JUNE.
05:15:36PM INITIATED BY US.
05:15:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT COULD BE SUGGESTED BY THE PUBLIC?
05:15:41PM >>ERIC COTTON: NOT THESE.
05:15:42PM THESE WERE NOT SUGGESTED BY THE PUBLIC.
05:15:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
05:15:47PM THANK YOU.
05:15:47PM IS ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC, CHAMBERS WANT TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
05:15:54PM ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:15:55PM FILE NO. E2023-8 CH 27.
05:15:57PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
05:16:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD EVENING.
05:16:06PM >> YOU KNOW HOW I HATE THIS.
05:16:08PM I JUST WANT TO SAY I HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH --
05:16:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS SANCHEZ, WE ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
05:16:15PM BUT LET US KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
05:16:17PM >> SANDY SANCHEZ, FIG STREET, COMMUNITY ACTIVIST.
05:16:22PM HOW ABOUT THAT.
05:16:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
05:16:23PM [LAUGHTER]
05:16:26PM >> ANYWAY, I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH -- ESPECIALLY THE DESIGN
05:16:31PM TEXT AMENDMENT.
05:16:32PM I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE PUBLIC NOTICE.
05:16:34PM WHAT MISS HURTAK.
05:16:36PM WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS TRUE.
05:16:39PM 27-241 IS GENERAL ON PUBLIC NOTICE
05:16:43PM IF YOU HONE IT DOWN TO 27-24-241-C 1 IT COVERS A
05:16:52PM SUPPLEMENTAL NOTICE AND ALSO A MAILED NOTICE.
05:16:54PM THAT THE IS FIRST THING I THINK SHOULD BE EDITED IN THIS
05:16:57PM TEXT AMENDMENT.
05:16:58PM THE OTHER THING I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS THIS PROCEDURE.
05:17:01PM I KNOW THAT THIS PROCEDURE TO HAVE A REVIEWING OFFICIAL
05:17:07PM HANDLE DESIGN EXCEPTION WAS PUT IN PLACE TO TAKE SOME OF THE
05:17:10PM BURDEN OF THE DOWN.
05:17:11PM BUT THEY ARE HIDDEN FROM THE FOLKS THAT ARE BEING EFFECTED
05:17:15PM BY THEIR DECISIONS.
05:17:18PM THIS DEPARTMENT IS MADE OF TAX DOLLARS AND THE CITIZENS OF
05:17:23PM TAMPA THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
05:17:24PM WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHEN SOMEONE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS
05:17:28PM APPLYING FOR AN EXCEPTION.
05:17:29PM THE HANDLING OF THESE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS NEED TO COME OUT OF
05:17:33PM THE CLOSET AND INTO THE SUNSHINE.
05:17:36PM THAT IS WHY WE ASK THAT ALL DESIGN EXCEPTIONS, NOT JUST
05:17:41PM SETBACKS INCLUDE PUBLIC MAILING -- WON'T INCREASE THE AMOUNT
05:17:46PM OF WORK FOR THE CITY STAFF IF THEY HAVE 20 DESIGN
05:17:50PM EXCEPTIONS, THEY STILL HAVE 20 DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
05:17:52PM THE BURDEN IS PUT ON THE APPLICANT AS IT IS NOW.
05:17:55PM NOTHING CHANGES.
05:17:56PM IT WILL SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS, BUT WE ALL KNOW THE CITY DOES
05:18:00PM NOT MOVE QUICKLY.
05:18:01PM SO WHAT I AM ASKING YOU IS TO HAVE THEM SEND THIS BACK AND
05:18:05PM COME UP WITH SOME REVISIONS THAT WILL MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
05:18:09PM IF YOU VOTE FOR THIS TONIGHT, AND THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO
05:18:13PM COME BACK, WE WILL HAVE HOLY HILL TO GET THEM BACK HERE.
05:18:19PM I KNOW IT WILL DELAY THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE PUBLIC
05:18:22PM NOTICE TO EVERYBODY, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE SETBACKS ONLY.
05:18:26PM JUST LIKE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS SAYING.
05:18:28PM IT HAS TO DO WITH EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS AND THE SURPRISES
05:18:31PM THAT COME.
05:18:32PM SOMETIMES WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF A PIECE OF PROPERTY IS SOLD.
05:18:35PM IF WE DON'T HAVE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS, WE HAVE NOTHING.
05:18:38PM I AM ASKING YOU TO PLEASE ASK THEM TO RESEARCH THIS AND
05:18:41PM CHANGE THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT.
05:18:43PM ANY QUESTIONS?
05:18:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:18:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. COTTON?
05:18:49PM I HAVE A MEMO HERE FROM MISS SANCHEZ.
05:18:53PM I AM NOT SURE ALL THE COUNCILMEN HAVE RECEIVED THIS.
05:18:56PM DID YOU RECEIVE THIS E-MAIL?
05:18:59PM >>ERIC COTTON: NO.
05:19:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME ENTER INTO THE RECORD.
05:19:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO HAVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
05:19:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE --
05:19:09PM >> NOT A QUASI-JUDICIAL.
05:19:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO EVERYBODY.
05:19:14PM >> BUT YOU ARE WELCOME TO IT.
05:19:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU COULD SHOW IT TO MISS SANCHEZ THAT
05:19:23PM YOU KNOW AND THEY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO.
05:19:26PM CAN YOU SEE -- IS THAT THE E-MAIL?
05:19:28PM >> YES.
05:19:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
05:19:32PM I AM SORRY.
05:19:33PM WHEN YOU ARE DONE WITH THAT --
05:19:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REASON I ASKED IS I DIDN'T KNOW IF THEY
05:19:39PM SAW THAT OR NOT.
05:19:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE STILL HAVE A MOTION ON
05:19:42PM THE FLOOR.
05:19:43PM >> SOME OF THOSE POINTS -- SOME I DIDN'T HIT ON IN THE FACT
05:19:50PM I THINK THEY SHOULD BE OUT IN THE OPEN.
05:19:52PM THIS DEPARTMENT IS AN EXTENSION OF YOU.
05:19:55PM THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE ARE DECISIONS YOU SHOULD HAVE MADE.
05:19:58PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
05:20:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO
05:20:07PM RECEIVE AND FILE AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:20:10PM ALL IN FAVOR?
05:20:11PM OPPOSITION?
05:20:12PM MOTION PASSES.
05:20:13PM DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
05:20:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
05:20:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
05:20:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WERE YOU ABLE TO SKIM OVER THE NOTICE?
05:20:22PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
05:20:22PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS HURTAK IS RIGHT IN WHAT SHE IS SAYING.
05:20:30PM AND I DO THINK THAT STAFF NEEDS TO TAKE LOOK AT WHAT MISS
05:20:42PM SANCHEZ HAS WRITTEN US.
05:20:43PM I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.
05:20:44PM IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE LOOK AT THIS.
05:20:46PM THERE ARE SOME VALID POINTS IN ALL OF THIS.
05:20:49PM SECTION ONE, FIRST PART, SECOND.
05:20:52PM AND AGAIN, I ASSUME THAT HAD YOU GUYS RECEIVED IT, BUT I
05:20:57PM THINK MAYBE A SECOND LOOK MAY NEED TO BE LOOKED AT IN
05:21:01PM REFERENCE TO THIS?
05:21:02PM >>ERIC COTTON: SHE AND I DISCUSSED NOTICE MORE THAN -- WELL,
05:21:05PM ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION.
05:21:07PM >> WE DISCUSSED -- WE DISCUSSED DESIGN EXCEPTIONS FOR THE
05:21:11PM OVERLAY AREAS ONLY.
05:21:13PM BUT I -- FROM THE TIME I TALKED TO HIM AND TONIGHT, I
05:21:18PM DECIDED NOT JUST FOR THE OVERLAYS, SHOULD BE EVERYBODY THAT
05:21:21PM KNOWS THE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THEIR
05:21:24PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:21:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANTED TO SEE IF MR. COTTON SAW IT.
05:21:31PM ANY PROS OR CONS WITH WHAT MRS. SANCHEZ IS SAYING?
05:21:35PM >>ERIC COTTON: I DON'T HAVE ANY PROs OR CONs ON IT.
05:21:39PM I UNDERSTAND WHERE MISS SANCHEZ IS COMING FROM, BUT PART OF
05:21:44PM THE QUESTION IS, WHEN YOU GIVE NOTICE, WHAT ARE YOU
05:21:47PM ACCOMPLISHING, TO GIVE THE ABILITY FOR SOMEONE TO JUST
05:21:50PM RECEIVE NOTICE OR THE ABILITY FOR SOMEONE -- IF A ROOF PITCH
05:21:54PM IS SUPPOSED TO BE 412 AND THEY ARE DOING 312 TO APPROVE THAT
05:21:59PM DECISION ADMINISTRATIVELY AND GO TO COUNCIL.
05:22:01PM THAT IS PART OF THE NOTICE ISSUE.
05:22:04PM IF YOU RECEIVE NOTICE, IF YOU ARE A PARTICIPATING -- AN
05:22:06PM AGGRIEVED PARTY WITHIN THE 250 FEET, THE PERSON COULDN'T
05:22:10PM THEN COME BEFORE COUNCIL AND Y'ALL WILL HAVE THE ABILITY IF
05:22:13PM A 412 PITCH IS NOT APPROPRIATE OR 312 OR 512 PITCH IS MORE
05:22:18PM APPROPRIATE.
05:22:18PM THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COULD COME BEFORE YOU.
05:22:21PM >> THE PROCESS NOW DOES NOT ALLOW THAT.
05:22:24PM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
05:22:26PM >> IF I GET A NOTICE AND SOMEBODY TELLS ME A ROOF PITCH.
05:22:30PM I OR ANYBODY WITHIN THOSE 250 FEET CAN MAKE A DECISION, DO
05:22:34PM THEY WANT TO CALL THIS DEPARTMENT AND TALK TO THEM AND TALK
05:22:37PM ABOUT THE DETAILS OF IT OR NOT.
05:22:39PM BUT AS IT IS NOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE THE
05:22:42PM DECISION, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW.
05:22:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MISS SANCHEZ.
05:22:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
05:22:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. COTTON, MAYBE YOU CAN CONFIRM IT.
05:22:52PM WHAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT COME IN THE TO THE COUNCIL IN THE
05:22:57PM FORM OF A PD, BUT A REVIEW HEARING WHICH IS A REVIEW FROM
05:23:01PM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
05:23:02PM >>ERIC COTTON: PETITION FOR REVIEW.
05:23:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A QUICKER AND LESS EXPENSIVE PROCESS FOR
05:23:09PM COMING FOR A PD.
05:23:11PM >>ERIC COTTON: THAT'S CORRECT.
05:23:13PM IT WILL COME AS A PETITION FOR REVIEW.
05:23:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:23:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ANOTHER ISSUE WITH THIS.
05:23:21PM THAT I THINK MISS SANCHEZ IS TRYING TO REACH AND CORRECT ME
05:23:25PM IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT SOMETIMES WHEN WE FIND OUT ABOUT THESE
05:23:28PM DESIGN EXCEPTIONS, IT WILL DEPEND.
05:23:32PM SOMETIMES THEY ARE APPROVED.
05:23:33PM SOMETIMES THEY ARE NOT APPROVED.
05:23:34PM AND WE DON'T KNOW WHY.
05:23:38PM AGAIN, I SAY "WE," TALKING AS MY TIME AS A NEIGHBORHOOD
05:23:43PM LEADER.
05:23:44PM YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW WHY A DESIGN EXCEPTION WAS APPROVED OR
05:23:47PM NOT AND NEVER REALLY GET THE CHANCE TO HAVE THAT
05:23:49PM CONVERSATION.
05:23:50PM I THINK WHAT THIS DOES IS OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION FOR THE
05:23:53PM PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WHY IF -- WHEN LOOKING AT TWO
05:23:58PM PROPERTIES WITH THE SAME DESIGN EXCEPTION, WHY WAS ONE
05:24:01PM APPROVED HERE AND ONE DISAPPROVED HERE.
05:24:03PM THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC AND NEIGHBORHOOD
05:24:08PM LEADERS STRUGGLE WITH.
05:24:10PM I THINK BY OPENING UP DESIGN EXCEPTION NOTIFICATIONS, YOU
05:24:15PM ARE REALLY EMPOWERING THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND HOW THINGS
05:24:19PM HAPPEN.
05:24:20PM NOT ONLY IN THE OVERLAY BUT PARTICULARLY IN THE OVERLAY.
05:24:24PM AS WE LOOK AT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING,
05:24:28PM WE NEED TO -- WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CURRENT OVERLAY
05:24:32PM DISTRICTS, TRY TO FIX THINGS THERE FIRST, BECAUSE WE ARE
05:24:35PM GOING TO SEE MORE OVERLAY DISTRICTS, I AM PREDICTING, WHEN
05:24:39PM WE LOOK AT LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN THE FUTURE.
05:24:40PM AND IF WE CAN FIX THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE WE ALREADY HAVE
05:24:44PM OR THE OVERLAY, AND THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS IN MORE
05:24:48PM SPECIFIC DETAILED OVERLAYS, THEN I THINK IT WILL BE BETTER
05:24:53PM FOR THE CITY OVERALL THAN LOOKING AT GENERAL IF THAT MAKES
05:24:56PM ANY SENSE.
05:24:59PM >>ERIC COTTON: I UNDERSTAND AND WE DO THE NEWSLETTER THAT
05:25:02PM LISTS ALL THE COUNCILS.
05:25:04PM AND A ONLINE SOURCE ON OUR WEB PAGE THAT YOU CAN NARROW DOWN
05:25:09PM ON THE WEB PAGE.
05:25:10PM ANY TIMING IS IS APPLIED FOR IN ACCELA, THE MINUTES -- THE
05:25:17PM MINUTES ARE ACCEPTED BY STAFF ON THE GIS MAP.
05:25:21PM THE MAIN MAP ON OUR PAGE THAT YOU CAN VIEW -- ANYBODY CAN
05:25:25PM SEE WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD BEYOND A SOURCE.
05:25:29PM >> THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS ALSO NOT EVERYBODY IS DIGITALLY
05:25:33PM ALERT, ASTUTE AND CAN DO THAT.
05:25:36PM I HAVE BEEN DOING ACCELA FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS AND I AM
05:25:43PM STILL STUMBLING OVER IT.
05:25:45PM EVEN IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH, TRANSPARENCY.
05:25:49PM YOU HAVE PUSHED FOR IT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION AND WE SHOULD
05:25:53PM PUSH FOR IT NOW.
05:25:54PM AN EXTENSION OF WHAT YOU DO AND WHAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY BE
05:25:57PM DOING.
05:25:58PM WHY IS IT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS?
05:26:00PM WHY AREN'T WE NOTIFIED?
05:26:02PM I HAVE ONE OTHER THING.
05:26:04PM ONE THAT MR. COTTON AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
05:26:07PM IF I HAVE KNOWN -- THE ONLY REASON WE KNOW BECAUSE SOMEBODY
05:26:10PM WAS THERE DOING THE SURVEY.
05:26:11PM IF THIS GONE THROUGH, WE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE SETBACK ONLY.
05:26:16PM THERE ARE FOUR OTHER ISSUES WITH IT, OKAY.
05:26:19PM IF WE HAVE GOTTEN THE SETBACK ONLY, A REASON TO LOOK AT THE
05:26:23PM FILE AND WHAT OTHER WAIVERS WILL BE NEEDED FOR IT.
05:26:28PM IT DOESN'T STOP THERE, BUT OPENS UP THE DISCUSSION FOR THE
05:26:32PM ENTIRE PROJECT.
05:26:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL AGREE WITH THAT, BUT ALSO ACCELA RIGHT
05:26:40PM NOW IS QUITE FRANKLY A BIT OF A HOT MESS.
05:26:43PM SO WE HAD THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION IN FRONT OF US.
05:26:46PM ACCELA RIGHT NOW IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE
05:26:52PM NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS -- LET'S BE HONEST.
05:26:54PM MORE DIFFICULT THAN IT HAS BEEN.
05:26:56PM IT CAN GET BETTER.
05:26:58PM THEY ARE WORKING ON IT AND WE CAN'T ASSUME THAT PEOPLE A
05:27:03PM WILL USE IT AND B, THAT IT WILL BE USED CORRECTLY.
05:27:07PM WHEN WE ARE HEARING FROM THE BUILDER AND THE PUBLIC THAT
05:27:10PM SOMETHING ISN'T WORKING IS THAT IS ALWAYS A GOOD SIGN THAT IT
05:27:13PM ISN'T.
05:27:14PM I TEND TO AGREE THAT -- THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK OVER
05:27:18PM AGAIN THE -- THE ABILITY TO GIVE MORE NOTICE FOR DESIGN
05:27:26PM EXCEPTIONS.
05:27:26PM THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT -- MISS SANCHEZ IS RIGHT.
05:27:30PM IT IS AN EXTENSION OF WHAT WE DO.
05:27:31PM A VERY GOOD WAY TO DO IT.
05:27:33PM THANK YOU.
05:27:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:27:40PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:27:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SEND THIS
05:27:43PM BACK SINCE IT IS COMING FROM THE STAFF INSTEAD OF VOTING IT
05:27:46PM UP OR DOWN AND KILLING IT?
05:27:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IF YOU WANT IT TO BE
05:27:53PM AMENDED.
05:27:54PM MR. COTTON, CAN YOU ADVISE.
05:28:02PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
05:28:06PM DEPARTMENT.
05:28:06PM THIS GETS ONE STEP CLOSER AND WHILE STAFF IS PROCESSING THE
05:28:12PM AMENDMENT TO PICK UP THE OTHER TYPES OF DESIGN EXCEPTIONS
05:28:16PM THAT CAN BE REQUESTED, YOU WILL STILL HAVE THE NOTICE IN
05:28:19PM PLACE FOR THE SETBACKS AS IT IS STATED TONIGHT SO WE DON'T
05:28:22PM LOSE TIME.
05:28:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
05:28:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A QUESTION -- AND PERHAPS THIS IS A
05:28:30PM QUESTION FOR MR. COTTON.
05:28:31PM THE WAY THE CODE IS STRUCTURED IS SET INTO CERTAIN CYCLES.
05:28:37PM THE QUESTION IS WILL IT EXPEDITE IT AND WILL HAVE HAVE TO
05:28:42PM WAIT.
05:28:42PM IF COUNCIL DOES NOT APPROVE THIS TO THE IS PRESENTLY
05:28:47PM STRUCTURED, HOW SOON WILL IT BE CHANGED OR IMPLEMENTED.
05:28:50PM AND THEN THE QUESTION WOULD BE THEN IF THERE IS ANY WAY TO
05:28:55PM EXPEDITE THAT IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
05:28:58PM >>ERIC COTTON: WELL, HEARINGS ARE SORT OF -- IT CAN BE
05:29:02PM EXPEDITED.
05:29:03PM THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS -- SO NEXT -- ON MARCH 2, WE
05:29:08PM ARE SUPPOSED TO COME BACK, STEVEN AND I WITH A PROPOSED TEXT
05:29:13PM AMENDMENTS FOR THE JANUARY CYCLE.
05:29:14PM AND THOSE ARE SCHEDULED -- IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO GO FORWARD
05:29:17PM WITH THOSE, LATE MARCH WE ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE OUR PUBLIC
05:29:21PM INFORMATION MEETING AND GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I
05:29:24PM BELIEVE, IN EITHER APRIL OR MAY AND THEN COMES BACK FOR
05:29:27PM ADOPTION ROUGHLY JUNE.
05:29:30PM THIS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE ON THAT CYCLE.
05:29:33PM ON ITS OWN CYCLE.
05:29:36PM BECAUSE WE JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO GET IT SCHEDULED TO WORK
05:29:40PM OUT WITH IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS AND
05:29:42PM SUCH.
05:29:42PM THAT IS THE ONLY THING.
05:29:44PM I WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WHICH IS WHAT IS HERE WHICH
05:29:47PM IS A NOTICE REQUIREMENT FOR SETBACKS AND SUCH.
05:29:50PM WE CAN COME BACK IN JULY WHICH IS THE TYPICAL CYCLE WE RUN
05:29:54PM ON FOR ALL THE OTHER NOTICES FOR DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
05:29:57PM KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE DO DESIGN EXCEPTIONS THAT INCLUDES --
05:30:01PM BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE PROCESS THEM, SHARED PARKING IS A
05:30:04PM DESIGN EXCEPTION.
05:30:05PM SO THE PARKING LEASE THAT SUSAN -- THAT HE REVIEWS FOR
05:30:12PM SOMEONE DOING OFF-SITE PARKING.
05:30:13PM THOSE CAN COME TO YOU FOR AN APPEAL.
05:30:16PM ALL THOSE THINGS COULD COMB BEFORE COUNCIL AND TO YOUR
05:30:21PM DISCRETION IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ALL THOSE KIND OF HEARINGS.
05:30:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I COULD --
05:30:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
05:30:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE LAST QUESTION FROM MY END.
05:30:31PM IF IT ENTERS THE JULY CYCLE, WHAT WAS THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF
05:30:36PM THE AMENDMENT THAT MISS SANCHEZ WAS REQUESTING.
05:30:38PM HOW LONG WILL THAT TAKE FROM THE JULY CYCLE?
05:30:43PM >>ERIC COTTON: THEORETICALLY, DECEMBER 2023.
05:30:46PM DECEMBER, BEGINNING OF JANUARY, DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS GET
05:30:50PM SCHEDULED OUT.
05:30:50PM THIS IS PART OF THE CYCLE THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU AND
05:30:54PM WORKSHOP IN JUNE.
05:30:54PM PART OF THE JANUARY 2022 CYCLE -- NO, THERE WAS A WORKSHOP
05:31:01PM IN JUNE.
05:31:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:31:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE ONE COMING, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
05:31:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS HURTAK HAS HER HAND UP AND THEN
05:31:12PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:31:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION THAT YOU DO.
05:31:14PM THIS IS SORT -- ALL WE ARE ASKING TO CHANGE THIS ONE IN A
05:31:19PM CURRENT CYCLE.
05:31:20PM >>ERIC COTTON: HAS TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION
05:31:22PM BECAUSE IT IS A LANGUAGE CHANGE.
05:31:23PM BASED ON THE WAY COUNCIL RULES AND HOW WE PROCESS THOSE, IT
05:31:28PM WILL HAVE TO GO BACK IN FRONT OF PLANNING COMMISSION FOR
05:31:32PM THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND HAVE AT LEAST A PUBLIC INFORMATION
05:31:36PM ABOUT IT LIKE WE DO WITH ALL THESE AND IT HAS TO COME BACK.
05:31:40PM NOT THAT YOU CHANGE THIS AND WE BRING IT BACK FOR SECOND
05:31:43PM READING.
05:31:44PM IT DOESN'T WORK THAT FAST.
05:31:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT WE ARE TOO LATE FOR THE JANUARY.
05:31:48PM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
05:31:50PM THE JANUARY CYCLE WILL BE WORKSHOPED.
05:31:54PM ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK FOR THE SMALL CHANGES WE ARE MAKING.
05:31:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHO CREATES THAT?
05:32:00PM >>ERIC COTTON: THE CYCLE IS IT BY CODE.
05:32:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHO CREATES WHAT GOES ON THE CYCLE.
05:32:07PM >>ERIC COTTON: THESE ARE STAFF INITIATED.
05:32:09PM NO MORE PUBLICLY -- OR PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS.
05:32:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN FOLLOW UP, THAT IS -- ALSO
05:32:18PM COUNCIL-INITIATED.
05:32:19PM MR. COTTON, COUNCIL HAS INITIATED AND HAS DONE THAT.
05:32:24PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES THEY HAVE DONE THAT TOO.
05:32:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I REMEMBER AT THE TIME THAT HAS BEEN PUT
05:32:29PM INTO THE CODE AND CODIFIED, THAT PROCESS, BECAUSE IT CREATED
05:32:32PM A STRUCTURE THAT ALLOWED STAFF TO ORDERLY BE ABLE TO PRESENT
05:32:37PM BY GROUPS THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF GOING TO THE PLANNING
05:32:40PM AGENCY AND HAVING A RECOMMENDATION AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL
05:32:42PM IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT IT BY ORDINANCE AND THAT HAS BEEN
05:32:46PM CODIFIED.
05:32:47PM FOR INSTANCE, AN EXCEPTION TO THAT IS -- ARE PROCEDURAL
05:32:51PM MATTERS.
05:32:51PM SOMETHING PROCEDURAL, THAT COULD BE EXPEDITED BUT SOMETHING
05:32:56PM SUBSTANTIVE AS MR. COTTON SAYS GOES THROUGH A PROCESS THAT
05:33:01PM IS CODIFIED.
05:33:02PM 15 YEARS OR MORE.
05:33:04PM >>ERIC COTTON: I WOULD IMAGINE.
05:33:05PM I WOULDN'T QUOTE MYSELF ON THAT.
05:33:07PM >> CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING?
05:33:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS SANCHEZ, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM
05:33:12PM SO YOU CAN BE HEARD.
05:33:13PM >> REMEMBER, I AM TALK OF THE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS THAT GO TO
05:33:16PM BE REVIEWED BY ONE PERSON.
05:33:19PM NOT THE ONES -- THE ONES THAT ARE COMING TO YOU ARE ALREADY
05:33:22PM IN IF THE CARE NEWSLETTER.
05:33:24PM THESE ARE ALSO IN THE CARE NEWSLETTER.
05:33:27PM NEXT TO THE DATE IT SAYS NOT APPLICABLE.
05:33:30PM YOU DON'T KNOW.
05:33:30PM YOU GET TO GUESS OR CALL ERIC AND ASK HIM.
05:33:33PM WHAT I AM TALK ABOUT ARE THE ONES GOING TO THIS PARTICULAR
05:33:37PM DEPARTMENT, THAT NEEDS TO COME OUT INTO THE SUNSHINE.
05:33:39PM BY DOING THAT, THEY NEED TO HAVE THE NOTICES SENT OUT FOR --
05:33:44PM FOR ALL OF THEM.
05:33:46PM I UNDERSTAND THE PROCEDURE AND IT WILL BE LOVELY IF WE CAN
05:33:49PM STRIKE OUT SETBACKS AND PUT ALL, BUT APPARENTLY THERE IS A
05:33:52PM PROCEDURE.
05:33:53PM BUT WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS THE ONES IN PARTICULAR --
05:33:57PM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
05:33:59PM ARE THE ONES THAT GO TO THIS DEPARTMENT.
05:34:03PM AND ONE PERSON IS MAKING THAT DECISION BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
05:34:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:34:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHY DOES IT NEED TO GO BACK?
05:34:15PM A SMALL VERBIAGE.
05:34:17PM >>ERIC COTTON: BECAUSE IT IS A TEXT AMENDMENT AND PLANNING
05:34:20PM COMMISSION REVIEWED THE LANGUAGE.
05:34:21PM THIS WOULD BE A CHANGE.
05:34:22PM CHANGES ARE MADE TO TEXT AMENDMENT OR LANGUAGE, THEY USUALLY
05:34:25PM GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THEM TO EVALUATE AS
05:34:27PM THE LAND PLANNING AGENCY.
05:34:29PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME.
05:34:30PM LET ME ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT IS IN THE CYCLE RIGHT NOW THAT
05:34:34PM IS GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT CAN BE ADDED ON TO
05:34:37PM THAT.
05:34:37PM >>ERIC COTTON: WE HAVE STEPHEN AND I DID A MEMO TO ACTUALLY
05:34:42PM HAVE A HEARING NEXT THURSDAY ON THE 2, PROPOSED TEXT
05:34:47PM AMENDMENTS.
05:34:47PM THE CHANGES WE WERE GOING TO BE PROPOSING.
05:34:50PM THOSE -- IF THAT WENT THROUGH THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE
05:34:54PM CYCLE WHICH WILL BE ADOPTION SOME TIME PROBABLY AUGUST.
05:34:59PM AS WE IF THAT ROUTE, COUNCIL HAS TWO OPTIONS.
05:35:06PM APPROVE WHAT WE HAVE AND INITIATE THE OTHER TEXT AMENDMENT
05:35:10PM FOR THE NEXT CYCLE AND POP IT UP MARCH 7 AND POSTPONE THE
05:35:17PM ENTER THING.
05:35:17PM KEEP IN MIND, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN JUNE, OCTOBER NOVEMBER.
05:35:24PM AND NOW BACK IN FEBRUARY FOR ADOPTION.
05:35:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TO ME IS SOUNDS LIKE AN ADD-ON.
05:35:30PM >>ERIC COTTON: TEXT AMENDMENTS ARE NOT THAT SIMPLE.
05:35:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU SAID GOING FOR A REVIEW NEXT THURSDAY.
05:35:37PM >>ERIC COTTON: NO, WE ASKED TO COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR
05:35:40PM THE TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE NEXT CYCLE.
05:35:42PM THOSE WILL START MOVING THROUGH THE DIRECT GENERAL HEARING
05:35:46PM CYCLE THAT TEXT AMENDMENTS ALL RUN THROUGH.
05:35:48PM IF COUNCIL WANTS, YOU CAN -- LIKE I SAID, ADOPT THIS TONIGHT
05:35:53PM AND NEGOTIATE WHEN WE COME BACK THE NEXT CYCLE, THAT WILL GO
05:35:56PM THROUGH THE -- THE CHANGE TO INCLUDE EVERY KIND OF DESIGN
05:36:00PM EXCEPTION CAN BE PUT INTO THE NEXT CYCLE IF THAT IS
05:36:05PM SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.
05:36:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.
05:36:13PM >>DANNY COLLINS: THIS IS DANNY COLLINS WITH THE PLANNING
05:36:15PM COMMISSION STAFF.
05:36:15PM BECAUSE THERE IS A CHANGE IN THE LANGUAGE IT NEEDS TO GO
05:36:18PM BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW AND WOULD REQUIRE
05:36:20PM ANOTHER PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING.
05:36:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:36:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SINCE WHAT WE WANT IS JUST TO CHANGE THE
05:36:28PM LANGUAGE TO "ALL" IS THERE A WAY THAT CAN BE PART OF WHAT IS
05:36:32PM COMING ON THURSDAY INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE STUFF
05:36:35PM TO START IN JULY.
05:36:35PM YOU ARE TELLING ME THE NEXT PLANNING SESSION STARTS IN JULY,
05:36:38PM IF YOU WERE COMING IN FRONT OF US NEXT THURSDAY WITH THIS, I
05:36:42PM THINK WHAT HE IS SAYING IS, CAN WE CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE
05:36:44PM SUPER FAST AND GET IT INTO THIS CYCLE AND MOVING.
05:36:48PM >>ERIC COTTON: WE COULD, THAT MEANS ADOPTION IS LIKE AUGUST
05:36:51PM --
05:36:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S FINE.
05:36:52PM THE CLOSEST WE CAN GET.
05:36:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.
05:37:01PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ARE YOU WANTING TO PUT BACK ON HOLD
05:37:03PM REDUCTION DESIGN EXCEPTIONS UNTIL YOU CAN PUT EVERYTHING ON?
05:37:07PM OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE WITH THE NOTICE FOR
05:37:11PM SETBACK REQUEST TONIGHT AND THEN ADD ON EVERYTHING ELSE IN
05:37:14PM THIS NEXT JANUARY CYCLE?
05:37:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF WE CAN ADD ON THE REST OF THIS BY
05:37:23PM THURSDAY.
05:37:24PM I AM ALL FINE WITH PASSING IT NOW, BUT IF WE HAVE TO PASS
05:37:28PM UNTIL THE JULY CYCLE, NO.
05:37:31PM I THINK WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS A SIMPLE LANGUAGE CHANGE
05:37:34PM INSTEAD OF A LARGER CONCEPT.
05:37:38PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: TO BE CLEAR WHAT IS HAPPENING
05:37:40PM THURSDAY, REALLY STAFF'S PREVIEW OF THE TEXT AMENDMENTS.
05:37:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME.
05:37:47PM TO TALK ABOUT THE CONSENSUAL, RIGHT, NEXT THURSDAY?
05:37:54PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ABSOLUTELY.
05:37:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. BENSON?
05:37:57PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE HAVE A REQUEST TO ADD AN ITEM.
05:38:01PM STEPHEN BENSON.
05:38:03PM WE HAVE A REQUEST TO BRING YOU EIGHT AMENDMENTS AS PART OF
05:38:07PM THE JANUARY CYCLE AND PRESENT THEM IN CONCEPT.
05:38:09PM I THINK WE HAVE DISCUSSED IN CONCEPT TODAY WHAT YOU WOULD
05:38:12PM LIKE TO SEE FOR A NINTH AMENDMENT.
05:38:14PM SO WE CAN BRING THAT, BUT IT IS NOT CURRENTLY IN THE MEMO
05:38:17PM THAT WAS TRANSMITTED TO REQUEST NEXT THURSDAY.
05:38:20PM SO I WANT TO CLARIFY.
05:38:21PM IF YOU WERE DIRECTING US TO BRING IT ANYWAY, I THINK WE CAN
05:38:27PM PREPARE THE CONCEPTUAL SHEET AND BRING IT AS THE NINTH ONE
05:38:31PM ON THURSDAY.
05:38:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL BE FINE WITH THAT.
05:38:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
05:38:39PM MISS POYNOR, ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
05:38:48PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
05:38:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IF IS COUNCIL'S DECISION TO
05:39:03PM GO FORWARD WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CLOSE.
05:39:05PM DO IT FOR SECOND READING.
05:39:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, THE MOTION -- WE CAN APPROVE WHAT IS HERE
05:39:17PM TONIGHT, BUT WE ARE SAYING WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A NINTH
05:39:23PM CONCEPTUAL DESIGN FOR APPROVAL FOR THE NEXT CYCLE, AND WE
05:39:28PM ARE JUST GOING -- WE ARE GOING TO SLIDE IT IN THERE AS THE
05:39:32PM NINTH FOR NEXT WEEK.
05:39:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: PIGGYBACK TOGETHER.
05:39:36PM >>ERIC COTTON: I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL HAS SET THE HEARING
05:39:38PM FOR NEXT WEEK YET.
05:39:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY DID NOT.
05:39:41PM SO YOU ARE AWARE AND THE PUBLIC IS AWARE.
05:39:43PM A REQUEST FOR A MOTION TO BE MADE UNDER INFORMATIONAL REPORT
05:39:48PM AND NEW BUSINESS.
05:39:49PM INFORMATIONAL REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS WILL BE TAKEN UP AT
05:39:53PM THE END.
05:39:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE THAT NOW?
05:39:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, PLEASE.
05:39:58PM WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF A PUBLIC HEARING
05:40:01PM ON THIS ORDINANCE.
05:40:01PM YOU UNDERSTAND CONCEPTUALLY WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
05:40:04PM STAFF UNDERSTANDS CONSENSUALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
05:40:09PM THIS WILL BE ADOPTED SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WELL IN
05:40:13PM ADVANCE OF THE PROCESS COMING NEXT WEEK AND BEGINNING TO
05:40:16PM ULTIMATELY TAKE UNTIL WHEN, JULY, JUNE YOU SAID SIR?
05:40:22PM >>ERIC COTTON: JULYISH.
05:40:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: REALLY NOT PIGGYBACKING AND WHAT WE HAVE
05:40:29PM DONE AS I HEAR EXPEDITING THE PROCESS RATHER THAN IT MAKING
05:40:33PM THE NEXT CYCLE.
05:40:34PM FORTUNATELY THE WAY THINGS ARE WORKING OUT, YOU ARE ABLE TO
05:40:37PM BRING IT ON WHAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO YOU AT NEXT WEEK'S
05:40:41PM MEETING.
05:40:42PM TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS OUTSIDE OF THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
05:40:45PM DO THIS ONE AND THEN A SECOND MOTION.
05:40:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
05:40:50PM I DO HAVE ONE MORE THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THOUGH.
05:40:53PM >> ON THIS SUBJECT?
05:40:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, ON THIS PARTICULAR CHANGE FOR THE TEXT
05:40:58PM AMENDMENTS.
05:40:58PM I DO -- I WOULD BE REMISS TO GO FORWARD WITHOUT TALKING OF
05:41:04PM THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY PARKING SITUATION.
05:41:06PM I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THE GOAL IS TO GET
05:41:12PM PEOPLE TO USE THE ALLEY WAYS.
05:41:15PM LIKE I -- I MEAN, I KNOW THAT IS IS THE OVERLAY'S GOAL, SO I
05:41:21PM AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE APPROVALS FOR DRIVEWAYS WITHOUT
05:41:27PM REALLY SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING THE ALLEY.
05:41:30PM BUT IF -- IF I UNDERSTAND THIS CORRECTLY, THAT WOULD BE WITH
05:41:34PM ONE OF THE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE
05:41:38PM -- THAT WILL HAVE TO THEN UNDER THIS NEW RULE GO IN FRONT OF
05:41:41PM THE PUBLIC?
05:41:43PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, MA'AM.
05:41:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS MY ONLY BIG CONCERN IS ADMINISTRATIVE
05:41:47PM APPROVAL FOR DRIVEWAYS.
05:41:50PM WHEN WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO ENCOURAGE ALLEY ACCESS.
05:41:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:42:03PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:42:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: MISS SANCHEZ, ARE YOU OKAY IF WE ADD THE
05:42:07PM OTHER ONE AS A NINTH ITEM TO COME BACK NEXT WEEK?
05:42:16PM >> I AM OKAY WITH IT IF THEY ARE GOING TO FOLLOW THROUGH
05:42:19PM WITH IT.
05:42:19PM I STILL WANT IT TO BE DROPPED BY THE WAYSIDE.
05:42:23PM IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN'T DO IT NEXT WEEK BECAUSE WE DON'T
05:42:26PM HAVE TIME.
05:42:26PM I DON'T WANT THAT ATTITUDE THAT -- YEAH, WE WILL GET TO IT.
05:42:30PM WE WILL GET TO IT.
05:42:32PM IT ALREADY HAS GONE ON TOO LONG.
05:42:34PM I KNOW WE CAN.
05:42:35PM I UNDERSTAND THE PROCEDURE, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY IT CAN'T BE
05:42:38PM DONE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T DROP THE BALL AND
05:42:42PM THEY COME BACK AND GIVE US SOMETHING THAT SAYS ALL -- ALL
05:42:45PM DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
05:42:46PM IT IS ONLY FAIR.
05:42:47PM LIKE I SAID, THAT ALSO CURES THE MISCONCEPTION OF THIS
05:42:53PM DEPARTMENT THAT DECISIONS ARE MADE ON A FLIP OF A COIN.
05:42:56PM THANK YOU.
05:42:57PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR.
05:43:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:43:04PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HEARD FROM MISS SANCHEZ AND THIS
05:43:07PM COUNCIL WILL ASK YOU -- SHE IS RIGHT.
05:43:08PM OFTENTIMES SOMEONE SAYS WE CAN'T GET THAT DONE BECAUSE WE
05:43:13PM DON'T HAVE TIME.
05:43:13PM I WANT TO KNOW BEFORE THIS COUNCIL VOTES, ARE WE GOING TO
05:43:16PM HAVE THIS -- MR. BENSON.
05:43:19PM >>ERIC COTTON: COUNCILMAN GUDES, THIS IS WHEN WE COME BACK
05:43:22PM NEXT WEEK.
05:43:23PM ALL CONCEPTUAL.
05:43:24PM THIS IS NOT CONCEPTUAL BECAUSE LANGUAGE IS MORE OR LESS
05:43:28PM PREPPED BASED ON THIS AMENDMENT, YES, AS LONG AS THE MOWS IS
05:43:32PM MADE FOR US TO COME BACK NEXT TUESDAY.
05:43:35PM AND THAT WE HAVE NINE -- THIS WILL BE NUMBER TEN.
05:43:39PM THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
05:43:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE MR. BENSON SHAKING HIS HEAD AND I
05:43:45PM WILL GO AHEAD WITH THE MOTION ON THAT.
05:43:47PM THANK YOU.
05:43:47PM >>ERIC COTTON: YOU ARE WELCOME.
05:43:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK ON
05:43:53PM NUMBER ONE, FILE NO. E2023-8 CH 27.
05:43:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, IS THAT YOU?
05:44:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, THAT IS ME.
05:44:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:44:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET THE CHAIR KNOW THAT MR. VIERA IS JOINING
05:44:14PM US VIA THE INTERNET.
05:44:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR THE PUBLIC, I HAVE A SICK SON AT HOME AND
05:44:20PM I HAD TECHNOLOGICAL ISSUES OVER HERE.
05:44:23PM I AM OVER HERE AT HOME TONIGHT.
05:44:24PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL, FOR THE ACCOMMODATION.
05:44:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY?
05:44:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS FINE, THANK YOU.
05:44:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WANT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
05:44:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:44:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
05:44:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:44:41PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:44:43PM MOTION PASSES.
05:44:44PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:44:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:44:46PM ITEM FILE NO. E2023-8 CH 27 ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
05:44:53PM FIRST READING CONSIDERING.
05:44:54PM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO
05:44:57PM PUBLICLY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS, MAKING REVISION TO THE
05:45:01PM CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND LAND
05:45:05PM DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-06.
05:45:07PM ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS, AMENDING 27-181.2, COMPLIANCE
05:45:13PM ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY; GENERAL PROCEDURES; AMENDING
05:45:18PM SECTION 27-241 WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICTS, DEVELOPMENT
05:45:23PM DESIGN STANDARDS; AMENDING SECTION 27-283.12.
05:45:28PM OFF-STREET PARKING SPACE STANDARDS PROVIDE FOR REPEAL OF ALL
05:45:34PM ORDINANCES PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH.
05:45:38PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:45:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED BY
05:45:46PM GUDES.
05:45:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:45:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:45:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:45:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:45:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:45:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:45:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:45:57PM >>CLERK: MOTIONS UNANIMOUSLY.
05:45:59PM SECOND PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 16, 2023 AT 10:30
05:46:05PM A.M.
05:46:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:46:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, WHILE WE ARE ON THIS SUBJECT MAY
05:46:10PM I MAKE A MOTION FOR NEXT WEEK?
05:46:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS COUNCIL WANTS TO WAIT UNTIL NEW
05:46:17PM BUSINESS AND APPROPRIATE TO DO IT NOW THAT STAFF IS HERE AND
05:46:20PM YOU CAN HAVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.
05:46:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, PLEASE PROCEED.
05:46:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD THE
05:46:27PM PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS FOR THE JANUARY 2023 CYCLE TO BE
05:46:33PM DISCUSSED UNDER STAFF REPORTS ON MARCH 2, 2023, ADDING
05:46:38PM SUPPLEMENTAL NOTICE FOR ALL DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
05:46:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
05:46:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN ASK MR. BENSON AND MR. COTTON
05:46:50PM TO STATE THE LANGUAGE FOR COUNCIL SO THEY WILL MAKE
05:46:52PM THAT AS PART OF THE MOTION SO YOU ARE CLEAR WHAT IS THE
05:46:56PM EXPECTATION.
05:46:56PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE CAN TAKE IT FROM THE RECORD BASED ON
05:47:00PM WHAT WAS DISCUSSED TODAY AND PREPARE AN AMENDMENT BASED ON
05:47:03PM THE DISCUSSION TODAY.
05:47:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CARLSON SAY RELATED TO THE NOTICE OF
05:47:08PM THE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS?
05:47:11PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: YES.
05:47:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:47:14PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:47:16PM ALL IN FAVOR?
05:47:18PM OPPOSED?
05:47:19PM MOTION CARRIES.
05:47:20PM EVENING ITEM NUMBER 2 FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-08.
05:47:35PM >> MELISSA DICKENS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:47:39PM THE ONE WATER CHAPTER OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
05:47:44PM UPDATE.
05:47:44PM MOST YOU HEARD AT YOUR TRANSMITTAL HEARING IN DECEMBER AND I
05:47:49PM WILL MOVE THROUGH THE SLIDES QUICKLY THIS EVENING.
05:47:50PM THE ONE WATER CHAPTER IS THE FIRST PORTION OF THE OVERALL
05:47:55PM TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE.
05:47:57PM IT INCORPORATES KEY CONCEPTS FROM THE COMMUNITY'S VISION
05:48:01PM THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THIS COUNCIL OVER THIS SUMMER.
05:48:04PM THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC AND STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT
05:48:07PM THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
05:48:08PM COORDINATED IMPLEMENTATION WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS AND OF
05:48:12PM NOTE, THERE WAS ONE CHANGE IN THE INTRODUCTION LANGUAGE AND
05:48:18PM TITLE PAGE SINCE SUBMITTAL, THE RESULT OF COMMENTS FOR
05:48:24PM CLARITY TO THE PUBLIC AND THAT CHANGE HAS BEEN REFLECTED IN
05:48:27PM THE RECORD.
05:48:27PM THERE ARE FIVE GOALS WITHIN THE ONE WATER CHAPTER THAT
05:48:31PM REFLECT THE BROAD NATURE OF WATER RESOURCES.
05:48:37PM THAT THIS SLIDE SUMMARIZES THE STAKEHOLDER AND PUBLIC
05:48:41PM OUTREACH ON THIS UPDATE.
05:48:42PM A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT MEETINGS ACROSS THE CITY WITH
05:48:46PM DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDER GROUPS, IN PERSON, VIRTUAL AND
05:48:49PM OUTREACH TO NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS
05:48:54PM AND VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS ACROSS THE CITY.
05:49:01PM WE HAVE RECEIVED A COUPLE OF ROUNDS OF INDUSTRY COMMENTS FOR
05:49:04PM THE UPDATE.
05:49:05PM WE RECEIVED NO OPTIONS ON THE ONE WATER CHAPTER.
05:49:08PM CEO PROVIDED A TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THAT IS NOT A COMMENT
05:49:16PM BUT SUGGESTION FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FOR US TO ADD A
05:49:20PM STATEMENT REGARDING THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS THAT THIS
05:49:23PM CHAPTER COMPLIES WITH.
05:49:24PM WE HAVE ADDED THAT STATEMENT INTO THE UPDATED LANGUAGE FOR
05:49:28PM ADOPTION THIS EVENING ON PAGE 9 AND 10 IN YOUR PACKET.
05:49:32PM IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED RESOURCES SECTION --
05:49:38PM EXCUSE ME, THE EXISTING WATER RESOURCES QUESTIONS AND
05:49:42PM LANGUAGE FOR CLARITY.
05:49:43PM THERE ARE SOME REPRESENTATIVE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES
05:49:48PM HERE ON THE SCREEN IN POTABLE, WASTEWATER AND STORMWATER
05:49:52PM MANAGEMENT.
05:49:53PM ALL OF THE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES ARE AVAILABLE IN YOUR
05:49:57PM PACKET.
05:49:57PM AND YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF AS WELL AS THE PLANNING
05:50:01PM COMMISSION FOUND FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-08 CONSISTENT WITH THE
05:50:07PM GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
05:50:10PM ADOPTION IS RECOMMENDED THIS EVENING.
05:50:11PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:50:14PM THANK YOU.
05:50:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:50:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: TO QUADRUPLE CHECK, THE PURE STUFF WAS NOT
05:50:21PM PUT BACK IN.
05:50:22PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
05:50:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
05:50:24PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP ON THAT.
05:50:26PM ANY QUESTIONS?
05:50:27PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:50:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND, AGAIN, PAUSE OF THIS LONG CONVERSATION
05:50:32PM WE HAD EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON REGARDING PURE.
05:50:37PM ALSO WHILE WE DOUBLE CHECKED THERE WAS NO PURE IN IT.
05:50:40PM THIS IS THE PLAN FOR US MOVING FORWARD.
05:50:45PM AND IT IS STILL AMENDABLE IF WE NEED IT TO BE AMENDED?
05:50:50PM >> CORRECT.
05:50:50PM WE WANT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH IS THE LONG-RANGE PLAN
05:50:53PM UP TOP 2045 TO BE A LIVING DOCUMENT AND JUST THAT IT IS
05:50:57PM SOMETHING TO BE MODIFIED.
05:51:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS
05:51:03PM AWARE IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED, IT CAN BE.
05:51:06PM >> CORRECT.
05:51:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:51:11PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISH TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
05:51:14PM 2, FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-08.
05:51:15PM WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
05:51:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:51:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
05:51:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:51:28PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:51:30PM MOTION PASSES.
05:51:31PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:51:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-08, ORDINANCE AMENDING
05:51:38PM AN IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO AMEND ONE
05:51:43PM WATER, COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING FOR WATER RESOURCES THAT
05:51:46PM REPLACES POTABLE WATER, WASTEWATER, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT
05:51:51PM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL, SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:51:55PM A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:51:57PM ROLL CALL.
05:51:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:52:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:52:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:52:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:52:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
05:52:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:52:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:52:10PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:52:15PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION MARCH 16, 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
05:52:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
05:52:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ITEM NUMBER THREE.
05:52:28PM FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-12.
05:52:30PM >>EMILY PHELAN: GOOD EVENING, EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING
05:52:41PM COMMISSION STAFF.
05:52:42PM THIS IS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP AMOUNT 2022-12.
05:52:47PM LOPE KATED 2215 WEST TYSON AVENUE.
05:52:50PM THIS WAS PRIVATELY INITIATED SMALL SCALE.
05:52:56PM 6.54 ACRES AND THE REQUEST TO GO FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO
05:53:01PM COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35.
05:53:03PM THIS IS THE GENERAL LOCATION MAP.
05:53:05PM IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANS DISTRICT AND
05:53:10PM GANDY SUN BAY SOUTH NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE ENTER SITE IS
05:53:14PM LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
05:53:18PM THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE THAT IS OUTLINED HERE
05:53:21PM IN BLUE.
05:53:22PM AND THE SURROUNDING SITES -- THIS IS CALLED RATTLESNAKE
05:53:28PM POINT.
05:53:28PM THE PENINSULA.
05:53:31PM AND TO THE EAST, THIS HAS OPINION REDEVELOPED AS THE --
05:53:37PM SORRY, I LOST MY POINT.
05:53:38PM THE WEST SHORE MARINA DISTRICT AND SOUTH OF GANDY BOULEVARD
05:53:43PM AND WEST SHORE BOULEVARD IS TO THE EAST.
05:53:45PM THIS IS FACING WEST ALONG WEST TYSON AVENUE AND THE ENTRANCE
05:53:50PM IS ON THE RIGHT.
05:53:51PM THIS IS A DIFFERENT PHOTO OF THE ENTRANCE AND YOU CAN SEE
05:53:58PM THE CSX RAILROAD.
05:54:00PM THIS IS FACING NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:54:05PM THIS IS WEST TYSON AVENUE FACING EAST.
05:54:09PM THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
05:54:13PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED HERE IN BLACK AND REPRESENTED
05:54:17PM BY THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATION.
05:54:19PM THE PINK AROUND THE SUBJECT SITE IS THE COMMUNITY MIXED
05:54:25PM USE-35 DESIGNATION.
05:54:27PM FURTHER TO THE EAST IN THE PURPLEISH COLOR IS URBAN MIXED
05:54:32PM USE-06 AND ALONG GANDY THE PUBLIC, SEMI PUBLIC.
05:54:37PM THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
05:54:38PM THE SITE IS HERE AND PRESENTED BY THE PINK COLOR OF CMU-35.
05:54:44PM THIS AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE
05:54:48PM SUBJECT SITE THAT IS CURRENTLY PROHIBITED UNDER THE HI
05:54:52PM DESIGNATION.
05:54:52PM IF APPROVED, THERE COULD BE UP TO 228 DWELLING UNITS AND IT
05:54:57PM WILL INCREASE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE UNDER THE F.A.R. FROM
05:55:02PM 400,000 TO 500,000 SQUARE FEET.
05:55:04PM THE APPLICANT HAS THE ABILITY TO USE FLOOR ARIA RATIO FOR
05:55:10PM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
05:55:11PM THE 228 DWELLING UNITS OF THE POTENTIAL COULD BE HIGHER IF
05:55:16PM THE APPLICANT CHOOSES TO PROPOSE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
05:55:19PM IT WAS SET OUT FOR AGENCY REVIEW AND THE CITY OF TAMPA HAD
05:55:25PM OBJECTIONS.
05:55:26PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
05:55:32PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FROM RATTLESNAKE POINT FROM A MIX OF
05:55:38PM HEAVY AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES TO RESIDENTIAL AND
05:55:41PM COMMERCIAL USES.
05:55:43PM AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT THE MAP
05:55:46PM AMENDMENT BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND
05:55:49PM POLICIES OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:55:52PM AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
05:55:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
05:56:04PM I DO HAVE ONE.
05:56:04PM PLANNING STAFF FOUND IT INCONSISTENT.
05:56:09PM BUT THE PLANNING BOARD FOUND IT CONSISTENT.
05:56:13PM >>EMILY PHELAN: CORRECT.
05:56:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: REASONING?
05:56:18PM >>EMILY PHELAN: WE FOUND IT INCONSISTENT BASED ON COMPREHENSIVE
05:56:21PM PLAN POLICIES THAT PRESERVE INDUSTRIAL AND ALSO A NO NET
05:56:25PM INCREASE IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
05:56:28PM WHILE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
05:56:29PM POLICY RELATING TO RATTLESNAKE POINT, TRANSITIONING FROM IT
05:56:34PM THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL INTO
05:56:36PM RESIDENTIAL USES.
05:56:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:56:45PM >> I AM READY FOR THE PRESENTATION.
05:57:07PM GOOD EVENING, ELISE BATSEL.
05:57:17PM ON BEHALF OF THE PETITION FOR THE COMP PLAN.
05:57:19PM THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HEARD THE INDUSTRIAL COMMENT IN
05:57:22PM THE STAFF REPORT.
05:57:22PM IT INDICATED THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD RATTLESNAKE POINT
05:57:26PM TRANSITION.
05:57:27PM I WANTED TO MAKE A POINT TO YOU.
05:57:31PM WHAT WE PRESENTED IS WHAT WE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING
05:57:34PM COMMISSION.
05:57:34PM HOW DO YOU WEIGH WHEN YOU HAVE CONFLICTING PROVISIONS IN THE
05:57:37PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:57:37PM I THINK THIS IS VERY HELPFUL AS YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION
05:57:40PM TONIGHT.
05:57:40PM SO YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD WHERE THIS IS LOCATED.
05:57:48PM I WON'T GO BACK THROUGH THIS.
05:57:49PM THIS IS THE CHEMICAL FORMULATOR SITE THAT YOU HEARD AD
05:57:54PM NAUSEAM OVER AND OVER IN THE MANY APPLICATIONS THAT YOU HAD.
05:58:02PM LAST MAY, WE CAME BEFORE YOU AND GAVE YOU SORT OF THIS
05:58:05PM PROJECT VISION.
05:58:06PM THE FIRST STEP WAS THIS APPROVED REZONING THAT YOU DID
05:58:09PM APPROVE IN MAY OF 2022, PHASE ONE.
05:58:12PM AND PHASE TWO AND THREE ARE THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE
05:58:17PM CHEMICAL FORMULATOR SITE WITH THE REST OF RATTLESNAKE POINT.
05:58:23PM IN NUMBER TWO, THE LAND USE AMENDMENT THAT WE CONTEMPLATED
05:58:31PM WHEN WE CAME TO YOU.
05:58:32PM IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND RATTLESNAKE POINT 8.11, KEN URGING
05:58:37PM THE TRANSITION FROM THE RATTLESNAKE POINT WITH THE CURRENT
05:58:42PM MIX WHEN THIS WAS WRITTEN TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES TO MIX OF
05:58:47PM COMMERCIAL USES IN A WATERFRONT COMMUNITY IN A MANNER THAT
05:58:50PM PROTECTS THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE.
05:58:54PM JUST REMIND YOU OF THE TRANSITION OF THE AREA.
05:58:58PM THIS -- BEFORE WE TALK OF THE APPLICATION, THE PENINSULA
05:59:03PM BEGINS TO TRANSITION ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2022.
05:59:11PM THE AREA IN PINK HAS ALREADY TRANSITIONED.
05:59:15PM IT HAS ALREADY TRANSITIONED.
05:59:18PM THREE PIECES THAT ARE LEFT AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN
05:59:21PM JUST A MOMENT.
05:59:22PM TODAY'S REQUEST, OF COURSE, IS TO CHANGE FROM HEAVY
05:59:25PM INDUSTRIAL TO CMU-35, THE CHEMICAL FORMULATOR SITE.
05:59:30PM THIS IS ONE OF THE LAST PROPOSED AREAS TO TRANSITION.
05:59:38PM THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL THAT YOU SEE IS NOT BEEN USED FOR HEAVY
05:59:44PM INDUSTRIAL PURPOSES.
05:59:44PM TO THE NORTH IS THE ARMY TRAINING FACILITY.
05:59:47PM TO THE SOUTH IS HULA BAY, WHICH IS BEING USED AS A
05:59:51PM COMMERCIAL MARINA.
05:59:53PM ONLY HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE ON THIS SITE IS THIS PARTICULAR
05:59:56PM SITE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
05:59:57PM IN FACT IF YOU LOOK STATISTICALLY AT THE ACREAGE, THE
06:00:02PM PERCENTAGE, THE AREA DESIGNATED CMU-35 WITHOUT THIS SITE IS
06:00:07PM 82.6% OF THE RATTLESNAKE PENINSULA AND AREA HEAVY INDUSTRIAL
06:00:13PM IN THE LAND USE CATEGORY TODAY IS 17.4%.
06:00:16PM SO WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, I
06:00:21PM CONTEMPLATED THAT YOU MIGHT ASK THAT QUESTION, MR. CHAIR.
06:00:23PM THE PIVOTAL QUESTION WAS, WHAT HAPPENS IN A COMPREHENSIVE
06:00:27PM PLAN WHEN TWO POLICIES CONFLICT.
06:00:31PM FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A ROAD MAP.
06:00:33PM AND IT IS TWO DOCUMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT.
06:00:36PM ONE IS FLORIDA LAW.
06:00:38PM WHAT DOES FLORIDA LAW SAY WHEN COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVISIONS
06:00:41PM CONFLICT WITH ONE ANOTHER?
06:00:43PM AND THE OTHER IS YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:00:45PM YOU ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THAT IN THE TEXT OF YOUR
06:00:49PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I WILL WALK THAT THROUGH YOU.
06:00:51PM THERE ARE FOUR COMPONENTS OF OF FLORIDA LAW AND MR. VIERA
06:00:55PM CAN PROBABLY PIPE IN BEING A LAWYER.
06:00:57PM THE FIRST IS, IF THERE IS AMBIGUITY OR CONFLICT BETWEEN TWO
06:01:01PM PROVISIONS, THE MORE SPECIFIC HAS TO CONTROL OVER THE MORE
06:01:05PM GENERAL.
06:01:06PM THAT IS NUMBER ONE.
06:01:07PM NUMBER TWO, THEY HAVE TO BE READ IN HARMONY TO AVOID ONE THE
06:01:12PM PROVISIONS BEING RENDERED MEANINGLESS, BASICALLY.
06:01:16PM THE THIRD IS YOU HAVE TO AVOID UNREASONABLE AND ABSURD
06:01:19PM RESULTS AND FINALLY THE EXPRESSION OF ONE THING TYPICALLY
06:01:22PM MEANS THE EXCLUSION OF THE OTHER.
06:01:24PM IT IS ALSO VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT
06:01:27PM SAID THAT INHERENT INCONSISTENCY IN LAND USE REGULATIONS
06:01:31PM MUST BE CONSTRUED IN FAVOR OF THE LANDOWNER.
06:01:34PM SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SPECIFIC OVER THE GENERAL.
06:01:37PM VERY BRIEFLY.
06:01:38PM RATTLESNAKE POINT ALL OF THOSE POLICIES, AND I BELIEVE 11,
06:01:44PM 12 POLICIES UNDER 8.11.
06:01:47PM THEY ALL APPLY TO THE SMALL GEOGRAPHIC AREA.
06:01:52PM THE COASTAL HIGH HAS ORDER THE INDUSTRIAL APPLY TO A WHOLE.
06:01:58PM THE POLICIES OF RATTLESNAKE POINT HAVE TO RULE.
06:02:01PM THEY HAVE TO GOVERN.
06:02:03PM THE OTHER THING THAT IS IMPORTANT -- AND I MADE THIS SLIDE
06:02:06PM LAST NIGHT VERY LATE.
06:02:07PM VERY TERRIBLE.
06:02:08PM SORRY IT IS NOT PRETTIER, BUT THE VERY IMPORTANT PROVISION
06:02:12PM IS YOU CAN'T READ THEM IN A WAY THAT THEY ARE MEANINGLESS.
06:02:15PM I WANT TO BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I THINK IT IS
06:02:19PM COMMON SENSE.
06:02:19PM IF IT IS TRUE THERE IS NO NET INCREASE ON RATTLESNAKE POINT
06:02:23PM IN RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND IN FACT, THE POLICIES OF THE
06:02:27PM COASTAL HIGH HAZARD, A LITMUS DEGREES.
06:02:32PM A LITMUS TEST THAT YOU COULD NEVER HAVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
06:02:37PM HOW WILL WE IMPLEMENT THE POLICIES OF RATTLESNAKE POINT.
06:02:40PM IT SAYS YOU HAVE TO ENCOURAGE THE TRANSITION FROM HEAVY
06:02:45PM INDUSTRIAL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL
06:02:49PM USES.
06:02:49PM TO INTERPRET THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN THIS WAY WILL RENDER
06:02:53PM THESE MEANINGLESS PROVISIONS.
06:02:56PM I HAVE TO THINK MELISSA ZORNITTA ABOUT THIS BECAUSE DURING
06:03:00PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING SHE BROUGHT UP SOMETHING
06:03:02PM THAT I DID NOT CONSIDER.
06:03:03PM IF WE ARE TRANSITIONING FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO LIGHT
06:03:07PM INDUSTRIAL LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS WE HAVE TO DO IN
06:03:10PM RATTLESNAKE POINT.
06:03:11PM WHAT ARE THE CATEGORIES WE CAN TRANSITION TO?
06:03:13PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST IN THE MIDDLE, THOSE ARE ALL OF THE
06:03:16PM COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL CATEGORIES THAT EXIST UNDER THE
06:03:19PM CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE.
06:03:20PM EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
06:03:26PM DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY COMMERCIAL ONLY CATEGORIES IN THE
06:03:30PM FUTURE COMP PLAN?
06:03:32PM ZERO.
06:03:32PM NOT A COMMERCIAL CATEGORY WE COULD TRANSITION TOO.
06:03:35PM AGAIN, THIS IS SORT OF AVOIDING THAT ABSURD RESULT.
06:03:40PM TO INTERPRET IT IN ANOTHER WAY WILL MAKE THIS MEANINGLESS
06:03:44PM AND ABSURD.
06:03:45PM BUT YOU HAVE ANOTHER DOCUMENT.
06:03:46PM YOUR TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:03:48PM SAYS THE LEGAL STATUTES THE PLAN REQUIRES THAT ALL
06:03:51PM POLICIES WILL BE CONSIDERED IN MAKING LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS
06:03:55PM OF THE COMP PLAN YOU ARE SUPERINTENDENT TO STATE LAW, ALL
06:03:58PM THE TENETS OF FLORIDA LAWS AND STATUTE.
06:04:04PM WE TALK OF THE PUBLIC HIGH HAZARD AND THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND
06:04:10PM WELFARE.
06:04:11PM IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE PROVISIONS THAT THE STOVE REPORT
06:04:13PM SAYS SUPPORT THE APPLICATION.
06:04:14PM THOSE ARE ALL ON THE WEST, CITY DECLINE, POPULATION
06:04:18PM INCREASE, MIXED USE CORRIDORS, RATTLESNAKE POINT, THE NEED
06:04:21PM FOR HOUSING, SUFFICIENT USE OF FACILITIES AND YOU WITH A HE
06:04:24PM THIS AGAINST THIS SORT OF LITMUS TEST.
06:04:27PM WE ARE NOT SAYING IT IS THE POLICY.
06:04:29PM YOU HAVE TO SAYS IT A POLICY TO BE CONSIDERED.
06:04:31PM I KIND OF WANT TO TALK VERY QUICKLY ABOUT SOMETHING WE
06:04:36PM TALKED ABOUT A LOT IN THE PAST AND THAT IS THE PRACTICAL
06:04:39PM PUBLIC BENEFIT OF GETTING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL OFF OF
06:04:45PM RATTLESNAKE POINT.
06:04:45PM WE CAME TO YOU IN MAY DURING THE PRIOR REZONING WE PROMISED
06:04:50PM WE WOULD BE WITH YOU WITH THE FUTURE HAND USE DESIGNATION
06:04:54PM CHANGE AND WE ARE BACK.
06:04:55PM I WOULD BE REMISS IF I SHOULD NOT POINT OUT FROM THE PUBLIC
06:04:59PM HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUE THAT A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT TO
06:05:03PM REMOVING THE ABILITY TO HAVE ANOTHER SUPER HEAVY INDUSTRIAL
06:05:07PM SITE USER THIS ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE.
06:05:10PM THIS IS JUST THE MAP THAT SHOWS THE CHEMICALS YOU ARE
06:05:13PM TRUCKED IN WITH THE CHEMICAL FORMULATORS USED.
06:05:15PM CHEMICAL FORMULATORS AND COULD BE SOMEONE WITH A WORSE
06:05:21PM CHEMICAL.
06:05:22PM YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY MAKE SURE THAT NEVER HAPPENS
06:05:24PM FEBRUARY.
06:05:25PM WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL
06:05:28PM COMPATIBILITY OF LEAVING THIS AS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL.
06:05:31PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:05:34PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
06:05:39PM TINA ACLOUD FOR STEARNS, WEAVER MILLER.
06:05:43PM I AM A CERTIFIED PLANNER WITH THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF
06:05:46PM CERTIFIED PLANNERS.
06:05:47PM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE AS YOU CONSIDER THIS REQUEST, A FEW
06:05:51PM THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND.
06:05:53PM THAT IS THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCLUDES A NUMBER OF
06:05:57PM DESCRIPTORS, SENTENCES AND POLICIES THAT DISCUSSES THE
06:06:01PM CONFLICT BETWEEN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES THAT
06:06:04PM QUITE FRANKLY HAVE OCCURRED THROUGH THE TRANSITION OF
06:06:07PM RATTLESNAKE POINT, CONSISTENT WITH OBJECTIVE 8.11.
06:06:11PM SHOULD BE DECIDE TO MAINTAIN THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE, GIVEN
06:06:16PM THE ON-THE-GROUND USE OF THE ARMY ADJACENT TO US OF THE EAST
06:06:21PM AND HULA BAY, THE ONLY TRULY INDUSTRIAL SITE LEFT ON THE
06:06:25PM ISLAND.
06:06:25PM EFFECTIVELY CREATING AN ISLAND OF HEAVY INDUSTRIAL INSIDE
06:06:30PM RATTLESNAKE POINT.
06:06:32PM IT WILL BE CONTRARY TO THAT OBJECTIVE AND VISION TO TRANSFER
06:06:38PM THE POINT.
06:06:38PM THE CITY AS WAS MENTIONED DOES NOT HAVE A COMMERCIAL ONLY
06:06:42PM FUTURE LAND USE POLICY.
06:06:44PM WHERE THAT REALLY COMES INTO PLAY AND BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT
06:06:47PM IS THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE
06:06:52PM AND INCORPORATING RESIDENTIAL AND THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
06:06:55PM AREA.
06:06:56PM WE HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO INTRODUCE RESIDENTIAL ON THIS SITE
06:07:01PM IF WE ARE GOING TO TRANSITION IT AWAY FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL
06:07:05PM BECAUSE A COMMERCIAL ONLY FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY DOES NOT
06:07:09PM EXIST.
06:07:10PM SO WE WILL ASK YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU GO THROUGH
06:07:13PM YOUR DECISION-MAKING PROCESS TONIGHT.
06:07:15PM IF WE DO NOT DO THIS, THE TRANSITION OF RATTLESNAKE POINT
06:07:19PM WILL NOT BE COMPLETE.
06:07:20PM AND WHEN IT COMES TO ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS ENSURING THAT
06:07:24PM PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE ARE CONSIDERED AND
06:07:28PM MAINTAINED, THAT IS PROTECTED BY THIS AMENDMENT.
06:07:31PM NUMBER ONE, THROUGH THE TRANSITION OF THE LAND USE CATEGORY
06:07:35PM ITSELF.
06:07:35PM AND NUMBER TWO, THERE ARE STILL VERY SPECIFIC POLICIES UNDER
06:07:39PM THE RATTLESNAKE POINT OBJECTIVE THAT REQUIRE ANY DEVELOPMENT
06:07:42PM ON THE ISLAND TO MITIGATE ITS OWN IMPACTS.
06:07:45PM AND THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SPECIFIC POLICIES REGARDING
06:07:50PM TRANSPORTATION, HURRICANE EVACUATION AND SHELTERING.
06:07:53PM THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE NOT JUST WORDS IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE
06:07:57PM PLAN.
06:07:57PM THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN IMPLEMENTED INTO YOUR LAND DEVELOPMENT
06:08:02PM CODE ENSURING THAT MITIGATION TAKES PLACE AND THE HEALTH,
06:08:07PM SAFETY AND WELL WARE WILL BE MAINTAINED AND ENSURED IN THE
06:08:11PM FUTURE.
06:08:12PM THAT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS OF LAND USE TONIGHT.
06:08:16PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
06:08:18PM WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT
06:08:21PM TONIGHT.
06:08:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTION FOR THE PETITIONERS?
06:08:25PM >> THANK YOU.
06:08:25PM CITIZENS.
06:08:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TOP SPEAK TO
06:08:29PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-12.
06:08:31PM >> HI, CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
06:08:43PM THIS COUNCIL KNOWS I AND MANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS HAVE
06:08:46PM FOUGHT FIERCELY TO KEEP RATTLESNAKE POINT AN INDUSTRIAL
06:08:49PM AREA.
06:08:49PM INDUSTRIAL COMPANIES PROVIDE GOOD-PAYING JOBS THAT ARE JUST
06:08:53PM AS IMPORTANT AS HOUSING.
06:08:54PM WITH ALL THE SUPPLY CHAIN AND LOGISTIC ISSUE OUR COUNTRY IS
06:08:59PM FACING, I PREDICT TAMPA WILL REGRET GIVING AWAY LAND THAT
06:09:04PM HAS WATER AND RAILROAD ACCESS AND REPLACING IT WITH
06:09:07PM MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
06:09:08PM THEY GAVE AWAY SOMETHING RARE AND IRREPLACEABLE.
06:09:11PM UNLIKE MANY NEIGHBORHOODS, S.O.G. NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN
06:09:16PM HAPPILY COHABITATING WITH INDUSTRIAL.
06:09:20PM WE LOVE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE JOBS
06:09:23PM AND PEOPLE EVACUATION WEIGHT FROM THEIR HOMES, NOT THEIR
06:09:27PM WORKPLACES.
06:09:28PM COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DOES NOT IMPEDE EMERGENCY
06:09:31PM EVACUATIONS.
06:09:32PM UNFORTUNATELY, WE LOST THE FIGHT FOR OUR INDUSTRIAL ZONES SO
06:09:35PM WE MUST DEAL WITH THE REALITY OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
06:09:38PM TODAY WE HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY ON THE RATTLESNAKE
06:09:42PM POINT ON THE CHAA THAT, UNFORTUNATELY, IS NOT A COMPANY WE
06:09:47PM CAN LIVE WITH.
06:09:47PM IT IS CHEMICAL FORMULATORS OTHERWISE KNOWN AS CFI AND A VERY
06:09:53PM HAZARDOUS CHEMICAL PLANTS.
06:09:54PM I AM SURE YOU SEEN THE HORRIFYING EVENTS IN RURAL OHIO WHERE
06:09:58PM A TRAIN CARRYING HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS DERAIL.
06:10:01PM I WANT TO YOU IMAGINE HAPPENING TO THE CFI TRAINS CARRYING
06:10:07PM HIGHLY HAZARDOUS MATERIALS IN DENSELY POPULATED AREAS OF
06:10:11PM TAMPA EVERY SINGLE DAY.
06:10:13PM IMAGINE AN ACCIDENT OR TERRORIST ATTACK OR SABOTAGE BY AN
06:10:16PM EMPLOYEE WHO WENT OFF THEIR MEDS.
06:10:17PM I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE THOSE IMAGES AT THE CFI PROPERTY
06:10:22PM SURROUNDED BY THOUSANDS OF RESIDENCES.
06:10:25PM IT IS OBVIOUSLY THAT CFI MUST GO.
06:10:27PM THE DEVELOPER BEFORE YOU SOUTHEASTERN IS DOING THINGS THE
06:10:30PM RIGHT WAY.
06:10:31PM THEY HELD COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT THE VERY FIRST STAGE OF
06:10:34PM PLANNING.
06:10:34PM THEY LISTED FOR OUR QUESTION OF AFFORDABLE UNITS.
06:10:37PM THEY MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS OVER AND OVER AGAIN
06:10:40PM TO KEEP US IN THE LOOP AND GET OUR FEEDBACK.
06:10:42PM SOUTHEASTERN HAS A GREAT PLAN TO DEVELOP PUBLIC SPACES THAT
06:10:46PM OTHER RESIDENTS OF TAMPA CAN ENJOY.
06:10:48PM THEY ARE THE GOLD STANDARD FOR COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
06:10:51PM ALL OF OUR LIVES WILL BE SO MUCH EASIER IF EACH HAD THE
06:10:57PM SAME ATTITUDE OF BEING A COMMUNITY PARTNER.
06:10:59PM A VERY RARE INSTANCE WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS WANT
06:11:03PM DEVELOPERS CHANGE AND LAND USE.
06:11:05PM WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE APPROVE THIS COMP PLAN CHANGE AND I
06:11:08PM WANT TOP NOTE THAT YOU PROBABLY GOT AN E-MAIL FROM
06:11:11PM STEPHANIE POYNOR SAYING THE SAME THING.
06:11:15PM SHE HAD SURGERY TODAY SO COULDN'T APPEAR IN PERSON.
06:11:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
06:11:26PM >> RODE SEEGER.
06:11:27PM SOUTHEASTERN DEVELOPMENT.
06:11:29PM STEPHANIE POYNOR ASKED ME TO READ THE FOLLOWING LETTER ON
06:11:33PM HER BEHALF.
06:11:33PM GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:11:35PM I HAD SURGERY TODAY OTHERWISE YOU KNOW I WOULD NOT MISS THIS
06:11:39PM HEARING.
06:11:39PM I HAD ASK ELISE TO HAVE ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM
06:11:42PM SOUTHEASTERN, OR ELISE BATSEL READ THEIR SPEECH FROM ME
06:11:49PM BECAUSE HOW MUCH I AM FOR ERASING CFI.
06:11:53PM THE TRAIN DERAILMENT OF 180 PEOPLE CAUSED A MASS EVACUATION.
06:11:57PM LEAK OF CHEMICALS FROM CFI CAN DO THE TAME OF SAME THING IN
06:12:01PM OUR CITY OF 400,000-PLUS PEOPLE.
06:12:03PM THE TRAIN WRECK IN GRANITEVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA WITH THE
06:12:06PM SAME CHEMICALS MANUFACTURED AT CFI IN 2005, TEN PEOPLE DIED
06:12:11PM IN A NEARBY TEXT AISLE MILL.
06:12:13PM I CALLED THE GRANITEVILLE, AND THEY SAY THEY WERE A FOOTBALL
06:12:18PM FIELD AWAY FROM THE TRAIN WRECK.
06:12:20PM HOW THIS WILL EFFECT WHAT IS IN PLACE IN THE WEST SHORE
06:12:25PM MARINA DISTRICT.
06:12:26PM MR. JAMES HUNT PAID FOR A DESIGN REPORT ABOUT CFI THROUGH
06:12:31PM THE FLUEDRA PROCESS.
06:12:34PM IS NOT SAFE WITHIN 14 MILES OF CFI.
06:12:38PM I E-MAILED IT TO YOU.
06:12:39PM I AM AGAINST NEW APARTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
06:12:41PM YOU ALSO KNOW THAT I HAVE DONE MY HOMEWORK.
06:12:44PM THIS PD IS A NO BRAINER.
06:12:46PM I DON'T LIKE APARTMENTS BUT CFI IS WAY WORSE.
06:12:49PM THE OF SOUTHEASTERN HAVE WORKED HARD IN OUR COMMUNITY TO
06:12:53PM MAKE CFI GO AWAY.
06:12:54PM THE WEST FOR EVERYONE IN THE CITY, NOT JUST S.O.G. THIS
06:12:59PM REPORT IS NOT ABOUT CFI BUT THE SAFETY OF THE COMMITTEE.
06:13:05PM PLEASE SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT FOR 5215 WEST TYSON.
06:13:12PM PLEASE SUBMIT THIS FOR STEPHANIEPOYNOR AND PLEASE SUBMIT
06:13:18PM THIS FOR THE RECORD.
06:13:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:13:20PM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
06:13:25PM I AM TAKING IT THAT MISS POYNOR IS NOT ON THE LINE.
06:13:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:13:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
06:13:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS PROJECT HAS A STEPHANIE POYNOR SEAL
06:13:40PM OF APPROVAL.
06:13:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND
06:13:45PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:13:47PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:13:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-12, AN
06:13:52PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
06:13:56PM ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040, TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
06:14:00PM PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE
06:14:04PM PROPERTY LOCATED 5215 WEST TYSON AVENUE FROM HEAVY
06:14:08PM INDUSTRIAL HI, TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE-35, CMU-35, PROVIDING
06:14:14PM FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT.
06:14:16PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.
06:14:19PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:14:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:14:24PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:14:27PM ANY OTHER FURTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS?
06:14:33PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:14:33PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:14:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY WILL CUT ME OFF -- BUT JUST TO GO
06:14:42PM ALONG WITH WHAT THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SAID.
06:14:44PM THIS DEVELOPER AND CONSULTANT SPENT A COUPLE OF YEARS MAYBE
06:14:51PM WORKING VERY CLOSELY ON SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
06:14:54PM YOU SAW THE HAZARD GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH SOUTH TAMPA.
06:14:57PM SO I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THE HARD WORK THEY HAVE
06:15:00PM DONE.
06:15:01PM SOME DEVELOPERS COME AND EXPECT EVERYTHING FROM US AND
06:15:04PM EXPECT SOME IN BRING IN A WAY GIFTS LIKE THAT, SO THANK YOU
06:15:09PM FOR WORKING WITH EVERYONE.
06:15:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:15:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:15:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:15:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:15:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:15:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:15:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:15:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:15:26PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:15:28PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 16, 2023
06:15:33PM AT 9:30 A.M.
06:15:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:15:36PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-27.
06:15:42PM >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN.
06:16:23PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:16:24PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMOUNT 22-27.
06:16:27PM MULTIFOLIOS WEST OF NORTH MYRTLE STREET AND EAST OF WEST
06:16:36PM 97th AVENUE.
06:16:37PM PRIVATELY INITIATED SMALL SCALE.
06:16:40PM APPROXIMATELY 1.45 ACRES AND THE REQUEST TO GO FROM
06:16:44PM RESIDENTIAL-10 TO RESIDENTIAL-35.
06:16:46PM IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT AND
06:16:52PM THE TERRACE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:16:53PM IT IS HERE ON THE LOCATION MAP.
06:16:55PM THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:17:00PM IT IS OUTLINED HERE IN PINK.
06:17:02PM AND IT FRONTS EAST 97th AVENUE.
06:17:05PM AND FURTHER TO THE EAST, THE BLUE LINE IS JURISDICTIONAL
06:17:11PM BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA ON THE WEST AND TEMPLE
06:17:14PM TERRACE ON THE EAST.
06:17:15PM AND IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, IT IS SURROUNDED BY
06:17:19PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
06:17:20PM AND THERE ARE SOME MULTIFAMILY USES DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF
06:17:23PM THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:17:24PM FURTHER TO THE SOUTH.
06:17:26PM THE SOUTHEAST AND ALONG HERE AS WELL.
06:17:30PM THIS IS FACING NORTH ON EAST 97th AVENUE HOOKING AT THE
06:17:38PM SUBJECT SITE.
06:17:38PM THIS IS WEST ON 97th AVENUE, AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON THE
06:17:45PM RIGHT.
06:17:45PM THIS IS FACING EAST ON 97th AVENUE.
06:17:49PM AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON THE LEFT.
06:17:51PM AND THIS IS LOOKING AT THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THE
06:17:56PM SUBJECT SITE IS FURTHER TO THE BACK WITH THE ORANGE VENTS.
06:17:59PM THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
06:18:04PM SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED HERE IN BLACK AND REPRESENTED BY
06:18:09PM THE RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION.
06:18:11PM THE SURROUNDING AREA OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALSO WITH THE
06:18:13PM RESIDENTIAL-10.
06:18:14PM FURTHER TO THE SOUTH AND THE EAST IS THE RESIDENTIAL-20
06:18:18PM DESIGNATION.
06:18:19PM AND FURTHER TO THE EAST AND FURTHER TO THE SOUTH WITH THE
06:18:24PM DARK BROWN IS THE RESIDENTIAL-35 DESIGNATION.
06:18:27PM AGAIN, THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE OUTLINED IN BLACK AND
06:18:31PM REPRESENTED BY THE DARK BROWN OF THE RESIDENTIAL-35
06:18:35PM DESIGNATION.
06:18:35PM THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THE SITE WILL ALLOW FOR AN INCREASE
06:18:42PM IN THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS AND THE MAXIMUM SQUARE
06:18:46PM FOOTAGE.
06:18:46PM CURRENTLY THE SITE CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR 14 DWELLINGS UNITS
06:18:50PM AND SLIGHTLY OVER 22,000 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES
06:18:54PM IF LOCATIONAL CRITERIA IS MET.
06:18:56PM UNDER THE PROPOSED ARE-35 DES ELSE NATION, THE SITE CAN BE
06:19:02PM CONSIDERED FOR 50 DWELLING UNITS OR SLIGHTLY OVER 37,000
06:19:06PM SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES IF LOCATIONAL CRITERIA
06:19:10PM WAS MET.
06:19:11PM AND ALSO UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-35 DESIGNATION ALLOW FOR THE
06:19:15PM CONSIDERATION OF MULTIFAMILY ON THE SITE.
06:19:18PM WE SENT IT OUT FOR AGENCY REVIEW, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA DID
06:19:22PM HAVE AN OBJECTION.
06:19:23PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IT INCONSISTENT WITH SEVERAL
06:19:30PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES RELATING TO PROMOTING
06:19:33PM COMPATIBILITY DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT TO SUSTAIN
06:19:36PM STABLE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENSURE THE SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC
06:19:40PM HEALTH OF THE CITY, AS WELL AS MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER OF
06:19:43PM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND PROP TICKETING LOW
06:19:45PM DENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS.
06:19:47PM WITH THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION
06:19:51PM RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED MAP AMENDMENT BE FOUND
06:19:54PM INCONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, TO BE OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES
06:19:57PM OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:19:59PM AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY
06:20:02PM QUESTIONS.
06:20:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
06:20:07PM PETITIONER.
06:20:07PM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCILMEMBERS.
06:20:14PM TODD PRESSMAN.
06:20:16PM ST. PETERSBURG.
06:20:18PM I DO HAVE A POWERPOINT.
06:20:20PM IF WE CAN PULL THAT UP, PLEASE.
06:20:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE SEE IT.
06:20:26PM >> NOT OUT HERE.
06:20:28PM IT IS NOT VISIBLE IN THE COUNCIL ROOM OR BY THE VISITORS.
06:20:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE IT HERE.
06:20:48PM THERE WE GO.
06:21:09PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
06:21:11PM THIS IS FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-27 SEEKING RES-10 TO RES-35.
06:21:21PM LOCATED NEAR TEMPLE TERRACE.
06:21:23PM THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
06:21:25PM THERE ARE A LOT OF INTENSE IN THE AN AREACMU-35.
06:21:33PM TWO GREAT POINTS WITH YOUR STAFF.
06:21:34PM THEY MISCHARACTERIZED AND MISJUDGED THIS AREA THAT I WILL
06:21:38PM SHOW YOU AND MANY COMP PLAN HOUSING PROPERTIES THAT
06:21:42PM ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION COMPLETELY.
06:21:43PM FIRST OF ALL, IN, TO RETENTION AND PARKING AND SETBACKS.
06:21:50PM THE MAXIMUM YIELD OF THE SITE IS ABOUT 44 UNITS.
06:21:54PM OF COURSE THE PLANNING COMMISSION USES THE HYPOTHETICAL
06:21:57PM MAXIMUM WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OF THOSE ELEMENTS.
06:22:00PM THIS THIS IS ASKING PER OUR MATH JUST ABOUT 30 MORE UNITS
06:22:05PM THAN WOULD BE ALLOWED NOW.
06:22:06PM NOW PLANNING COMMISSION MAKES A VERY STRONG POINT AS THE
06:22:09PM YOUNG LADY DID, THIS IS IN AN ESTABLISHED DETACHED
06:22:14PM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:22:16PM THEY INDICATE, AGAIN, IT IS UTILIZED BY SINGLE-FAMILY THAT
06:22:21PM WE FOUND TO BE A MISCHARACTERIZATION OF AREA.
06:22:24PM THE SITE LOCATED HERE.
06:22:26PM WALK YOU AROUND THE BLOCK.
06:22:27PM AND ON THE SITE IS MULTIFAMILY.
06:22:29PM YOU CAN SEE WITH THE NUMBER OF MAILBOXES IN UNITS.
06:22:33PM NEXT DOOR TO THAT IS THE NUMBER MULTI FAMILY.
06:22:37PM YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE AGAIN WITH MAILBOXES AND DOORS.
06:22:40PM NEXT TO THAT IS, AGAIN, MORE MULTIFAMILY.
06:22:43PM RIGHT AROUND THE BLOCK, CONTINUED MULTIFAMILY.
06:22:47PM YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE.
06:22:48PM AND BUILDINGS CONTINUE UP THE STREET AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.
06:23:01PM AGAIN, COMING AROUND THE SAME BLOCK, MULTIFAMILY.
06:23:05PM YOU CAN SEE THE UNITS HERE.
06:23:07PM THE MAILBOXES OR YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE HAS SIX DIFFERENT
06:23:11PM UNITS IN THOSE TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS AND THE MULTIFAMILY
06:23:14PM CONTINUES ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BLOCK.
06:23:15PM A MAJOR MULTIFAMILY AREA.
06:23:19PM A MIXTURE WITH SINGLE FAMILY.
06:23:21PM YOU LOOK WAY TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH, IT IS TREMENDOUS
06:23:25PM MULTIFAMILY.
06:23:26PM AND DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
06:23:27PM THE MAILBOX WILL SHOW THERE ARE MULTIPLE UNITS AND YOU CAN
06:23:31PM SEE THAT HERE AS WELL.
06:23:32PM AGAIN, AS YOU HEARD FROM THE LADY AND THE STAFF REPORT, THIS
06:23:40PM IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED WHICH IS NOT CORRECT FOR THE
06:23:42PM IMMEDIATE VICINITY.
06:23:44PM YOU LOOK AT THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:23:48PM YOU CONSIDER THIS AREA, MEDIAN HOUSE HOLD OF $35,709.
06:23:53PM WE LOOK AT THE TYPE OF HOUSING WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT
06:23:56PM HAS COME FORWARD TO.
06:23:58PM NOT OFFICIALLY AFFORDABLE, BUT HOMES THAT ARE MATCHING THE
06:24:01PM AREA THAT PEOPLE NEED THIS LEVEL TYPE OF HOUSING.
06:24:05PM MIXING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:24:09PM UNDER LAND USE OBJECTIVE 9.9, ATTRACT RESIDENTS TO LIVE IN
06:24:16PM TAMPA MUST PROMOTE MIXED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
06:24:20PM PARTICULARLY IN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING AREA WHICH IS UNDER
06:24:23PM LINED.
06:24:24PM IN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING AREA AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT THIS
06:24:27PM LAND USE CATEGORY -- OR LAND USE POLICY CALL FOR.
06:24:30PM MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS INCREASE THE DIVERSITY AND
06:24:34PM SUSTAINABILITY OF MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
06:24:36PM THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS APPLICATION DOES, ENCOURAGE THE
06:24:40PM DEVELOPMENT AND INTENSITY OF MULTIFAMILY HOUSING TYPES TO
06:24:44PM MEET THE NEED OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:24:47PM YOU HAVE NOT OPINION PRESENTED ANY OF THESE POLICIES AS YOU
06:24:51PM WERE PRESENTED TODAY FROM THE YOUNG LADY FROM THE PLANNING
06:24:55PM COMMISSION.
06:24:55PM OBJECTIVE 9.7.
06:24:57PM PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR INFILL ALREADY CHARACTERIZED BY
06:25:01PM LOW TO MEDIUM-DENSITY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
06:25:06PM THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
06:25:06PM THE UNIVERSITY COMMUNITY AREA, WANT SPECIFICALLY TO PROVIDE
06:25:10PM GREATER FLEXIBILITY AND LAND USE AND FLEXIBILITY FOR FUTURE
06:25:13PM DEVELOPMENT WHILE ENSURE A WIDE RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES.
06:25:18PM POLICY 9.8.1 IN YOUR COMP PLAN, AND COMPATIBLE TO THE MIX OF
06:25:24PM HOMES AND SMALL TO MODERATE SMALL SCALE APARTMENT BUILDINGS
06:25:29PM WHICH IS WHAT I SHOWED YOU OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
06:25:31PM AND PROVIDE NEW RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND THIS IS WHAT
06:25:38PM THIS SITE IS, INFILL, VACANT AND UNDEVELOPED SITES.
06:25:42PM FINALLY POLICY 9.8.2, STANDARDS FOR MODERATE DENSITY,
06:25:48PM MULTIZONES AND SCALE OF DEVELOPMENT AND ABILITY THAT DIFFERS
06:25:51PM FROM THOSE OF SINGLE-FAMILY AND LOW DENSITY, MULTIFAMILY.
06:25:55PM THAT IS WHAT THIS PARTICULAR AREA IS AS WE SHOWED YOU,
06:25:58PM SINGLE-FAMILY, LOW DENSITY, MULTIFAMILY, WE WANT A AT THIS
06:26:02PM VERSE MIX OF THOSE HOUSING TYPES THAT MATCH AREA THE COUNTY.
06:26:10PM FINALLY TO PRESENT TO YOU, ST. PETERSBURG HAS MOVED TOWARD
06:26:13PM THIS TYPE OF POLICY WHICH THEY CALL "FIND THE MISSING
06:26:17PM MIDDLE."
06:26:17PM WHICH IS HOUSING TYPES FOR THE AREA THAT MATCHES IN AREA
06:26:25PM ECONOMICALLY AND THE HOW LONGING TYPES THAT PEOPLE ARE
06:26:28PM LOOKING FOR.
06:26:29PM A FEW MINOR POINTS, THIS SITE HAVE TREMENDOUS ACCESS RIGHTS
06:26:33PM TO NORTH 56th AND BUSCH BOULEVARD.
06:26:37PM THE ROADWAY GOING TO THE SITE IS EXTREMELY WELL SIGNED
06:26:42PM NOTING SPEED AND NOTING A CURB COMING UP AND THIS CURB IS
06:26:47PM WELL BARRICADED AND WELL MARKED.
06:26:49PM SO IN SUMMARY, WE DO FEEL THAT THE SITE HAS OPINION TERRIBLY
06:26:53PM MISCHARACTERIZED WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.
06:26:56PM IT IS SUPPORTED BY MANY HOUSE POLICIES.
06:27:00PM THE NET INCREASE IN UNIT IS VERY LOW.
06:27:03PM I INDICATED 30 UNITS.
06:27:05PM PROVIDES A NEEDED HOUSING OPTION AND TRANSPORTATION IS SAFE.
06:27:08PM WITH THAT, WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND HAPPY TO
06:27:11PM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
06:27:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:27:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:27:23PM DID YOU SEE THE PHOTOS THAT MR. PRESSMAN PUT UP?
06:27:28PM >> YES.
06:27:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU CHARACTERIZED
06:27:31PM THAT AREA AS ONE, BUT HIS PHOTOS DETECT ANOTHER?
06:27:38PM >> CORRECT.
06:27:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHERE IS THE INCONSISTENCY.
06:27:42PM I WANT YOU TO TELL ME.
06:27:43PM >>EMILY PHELAN: THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
06:27:47PM SOME OF THE PHOTOS THAT MR. PRESSMAN DID SHOW SHOW THE
06:27:51PM MULTIFAMILY THAT ARE ALONG HERE ON EAST 97th.
06:27:55PM THE THE TWO THAT HE SHOWED DIRECTLY FRONT OF THE SUBJECT
06:27:59PM SITE WILL BE NONCONFORM WILLING AND CITY STAFF CAN SPEAK ON
06:28:03PM THAT IF IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
06:28:07PM NONCONFORMING FOR THE PLAN AND PROBABLY PREDATED THE PLAN.
06:28:11PM THE MULTI FAMILY THAT HE IS REFERRING TO IS NOT ADJACENT TO
06:28:17PM THE SUBJECT DIET.
06:28:17PM >> YOU SAY NONCONFORMING SOMEONE BUILT THAT AND DIDN'T
06:28:20PM CONFORM TO THE POLL SOUTHEAST CITY.
06:28:25PM >> PROBABLY PREDATED THE PLAN.
06:28:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA AND IT
06:28:30PM WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT IS OVER THERE.
06:28:32PM SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
06:28:34PM THANK YOU.
06:28:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:28:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU CAN LEAVE THAT UP, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
06:28:43PM SORRY, I AM VERY VISUAL AND I LIKE TO LOOK.
06:28:47PM THEY SAID LOOKING AT -- WHAT HE SAID THAT CURRENTLY THERE
06:28:51PM ARE 15 -- 11 UNITS THAT COULD GO ON THAT SITE?
06:28:56PM >>EMILY PHELAN: IT IS 14.
06:28:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 14?
06:28:59PM OKAY.
06:28:59PM SO WITH THE CHANGE -- CURRENTLY YOU CAN PUT 14 UNITS THE WAY
06:29:03PM IT IS.
06:29:03PM >> CORRECT.
06:29:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BY INCREASING THE DENSITY, CO.
06:29:09PM THEY COULD BE 44?
06:29:14PM >>EMILY PHELAN: POTENTIALLY UP TO 50.
06:29:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: POTENTIALLY UP TO 50.
06:29:18PM WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE?
06:29:20PM IS THAT AN APARTMENT?
06:29:21PM TOWN HOMES?
06:29:25PM 1.5 ACRES, IT IS REALLY -- VAGUE TO ME.
06:29:28PM WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE IF ALL 50 UNITS WERE THERE.
06:29:31PM >>EMILY PHELAN: SO PER THE RESIDENTIAL-35 DES EGG NATION.
06:29:39PM BUILDING HEIGHTS CAN GO UP TO EIGHT STORIES SO COULD BE LIKE
06:29:44PM AN APARTMENT BUILDING TYPE STRUCTURE POTENTIALLY.
06:29:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT CAN GO UP TO EIGHT STORIES?
06:29:58PM >>DANNY COLLINS: CAN I CHIME IN?
06:30:00PM DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
06:30:02PM OUR CALCULATIONS -- THOSE ARE THE MAXIMUMS THAT CAN BE
06:30:04PM CONSIDERED IN THOSE CATEGORIES.
06:30:06PM SO WHILE HE IS SAYING 44 UNITS.
06:30:08PM THESE ARE THE MAXIMUMS BASED ON THE DENSITY.
06:30:11PM SO THE DENSITY IN THE R-35 ALLOW 35 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
06:30:16PM UNDER THE ADOPTED RESIDENTIAL-10, THE MAXIMUM WAS TEN
06:30:20PM DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
06:30:22PM THAT IS WHY THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENCE IN THE NUMBER OF
06:30:25PM UNITS.
06:30:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
06:30:29PM THANK YOU.
06:30:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
06:30:36PM PETITIONER.
06:30:36PM >> LET'S CLARIFY -- LET'S CLARIFY SOME POINTS HERE.
06:30:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FOR THE
06:30:45PM PETITIONER?
06:30:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OH, COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
06:30:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WENT TO STAFF AND ANY COMMENTS FOR THE
06:30:51PM PETITIONER.
06:30:51PM COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID HE WANTED TO GO TO STAFF.
06:30:54PM NOW IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER.
06:30:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, HAS THE PUBLIC --
06:31:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVEN'T HAD A QUESTIONS --
06:31:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT HIS OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL.
06:31:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
06:31:13PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:31:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THERE A REASON YOU DIDN'T GO FOR
06:31:17PM RESIDENTIAL-20, WHICH WOULD BE A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE
06:31:21PM RESIDENTIAL-10 THAT SURROUNDS IT?
06:31:24PM >> CERTAINLY WILL BE CLOSER.
06:31:25PM BUT AN EVALUATION IS MADE HOW MANY UNITS REALLY COULD GO
06:31:30PM HERE.
06:31:30PM AND WHAT TYPE OF DEMANDS THEY ARE GOING TO BE.
06:31:33PM IT IS -- IT IS A NICE COMMUNITY BUT A LOWER MEDIAN INCOME
06:31:41PM COMMUNITY AND HOW BIG ARE THE UNITS AND HOW MANY WILL FIT
06:31:44PM REASONABLY ON THE SITE.
06:31:45PM THE RES-35 WOULD HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 50 BUT OF COURSE YOU
06:31:50PM WOULD NEVER BUILD 50 AND WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE SETBACKS,
06:31:54PM LANDSCAPING, PARKING, RETENTION.
06:31:55PM I INDICATED THE YIELD WILL BE ABOUT 44.
06:31:58PM SO A BALANCE OF MARKET, AREA CONFIGURATION OF PROPERTY AND
06:32:04PM WHAT KIND OF DEMAND.
06:32:06PM WHAT DRIVES IT AND SIZE OF THE UNITS.
06:32:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU WENT TO R-10.
06:32:12PM WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE?
06:32:14PM THE MAX YOU WOULD PUT THERE?
06:32:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY, R-20, MY APOLOGIES.
06:32:19PM >> I WOULD HAVE TO DO THE MATH REAL QUICK AND I WOULD BE
06:32:22PM HESITANT TO DO THAT REAL QUICK.
06:32:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DOES STAFF KNOW?
06:32:31PM >>EMILY PHELAN: IT WOULD BE DOUBLE THE RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION
06:32:34PM SO POTENTIALLY 28 UNITS.
06:32:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, THAT DOES QUESTION AFFORDABILITY THEN,
06:32:42PM DOESN'T IT.
06:32:43PM THANK YOU.
06:32:46PM THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION.
06:32:47PM >> THANK YOU.
06:32:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:32:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:32:53PM I HEARD THE WORD AFFORDABILITY.
06:32:55PM WHAT RANGE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
06:32:57PM >> UNFORTUNATELY, I AM A ZONING GUY, THE BEST ANSWER I CAN
06:33:00PM GIVE YOU IS THAT IT IS MATCH THE MEDIAN BECOME OF THE AREA
06:33:04PM WHICH IS $39,000.
06:33:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
06:33:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AFFORDABILITY IS NOT IN QUESTION.
06:33:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN THE CONTEXT OF A LAND USE FUTURE PLAN
06:33:16PM AMENDMENT, THE CONCEPT IS RELATIVE TO THE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL
06:33:23PM DEVELOPMENT FOR THAT SITE.
06:33:26PM AND THERE IS NO PROVISION IN THERE TO HAVE ANY CONTROL WHAT
06:33:33PM TO ULTIMATELY BECOMES OF IT.
06:33:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAN'T EVEN DESIGN THE PLACE EITHER AND
06:33:37PM TELL THEM WHERE TO PUT THE AIR CONDITIONING AND CAN'T TELL
06:33:40PM THEM WHERE TO PARK THE CARS EITHER.
06:33:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.
06:33:47PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ.
06:33:48PM TO FOLLOW UP ON MR. SHELBY'S COMMENT, THIS IS A COMP PLAN
06:33:54PM AMENDMENT.
06:33:54PM THE QUESTION FOR COUNCIL IS, AS A POLICY MATTER ALREADY
06:33:58PM WHETHER THE CURRENT LAND USE OF R-10 CONTINUES TO BE
06:34:03PM APPROPRIATE IN THIS AREA OR SOME CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCE THAT
06:34:06PM WILL JUSTIFY CHANGING IT TO A HIGHER DENSITY CATEGORY THAT
06:34:11PM IS REQUESTED.
06:34:11PM SO THERE IS NO -- AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE MAXIMUM
06:34:15PM POTENTIAL.
06:34:16PM AND I BELIEVE THE -- WON'T TALK ABOUT THE ZONING, BUT YOU
06:34:21PM HAVE TO CONSIDER THE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL, BECAUSE YOUR
06:34:24PM STATEMENT TODAY IF YOU APPROVE IT IS THAT THAT -- UP TO THAT
06:34:27PM MAXIMUM WILL BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE AND THIS LOCATION.
06:34:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:34:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GUESS IT WOULD BE FOR PLANNING.
06:34:38PM IN THAT AREA, R-10 AND R-20, RIGHT?
06:34:43PM PUT THAT MAP UP AGAIN.
06:34:47PM >>EMILY PHELAN: MY PAPERS GOT ALL SHUFFLED AROUND.
06:35:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN'T SEE IT.
06:35:12PM ANOTHER DIAGRAM THAT MARKED OUT R-10 AND R-20.
06:35:18PM I THINK YOU HAD A -- THIS ONE?
06:35:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES
06:35:35PM YOU PUT UP.
06:35:36PM IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN MR. PRESSMAN.
06:35:49PM IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN HIS DIAGRAM.
06:35:51PM MIGHT HAVE BEEN HIS DIAGRAM WITH R-10 AND R-20.
06:36:07PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A QUESTION
06:36:09PM IF THERE IS ANY R-20.
06:36:11PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU PUT YOUR DIAGRAM -- YOU HAD IT
06:36:16PM LABELED OUT R-10, R-20.
06:36:19PM I BELIEVE IT WAS YOUR DIAGRAM I SAW.
06:36:21PM IT WAS SOMEBODY'S DIAGRAM I SAW, HOW ABOUT THAT.
06:36:25PM >> DO YOU MEAN THIS?
06:36:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A DIAGRAM AND HAD THE LAYOUT -- THERE WE
06:36:31PM GO.
06:36:31PM >> SITE LOCATED HERE, R-35, CMU-35, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
06:36:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
06:36:50PM >> THANK YOU.
06:36:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS?
06:36:54PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SO I WANT TO CLARIFY.
06:36:57PM THE AREA WHERE THIS SITE IS ALL R-10.
06:37:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
06:37:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOLLOW UP ON MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.
06:37:07PM JUST A REMINDER THAT COMP PLAN AMENDMENTS ARE OUT IN QUASI
06:37:13PM JUDICIAL.
06:37:14PM IT IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER.
06:37:16PM IT IS A POLICY MATTER.
06:37:17PM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY RESPOND TO STAFF AND LET ME TO DO
06:37:22PM THAT IN REBUTTAL.
06:37:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO THAT IN REBUTTAL.
06:37:27PM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WISH TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR,
06:37:32PM FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-27?
06:37:35PM >> YES, SIR.
06:37:35PM I AM CLAYTON CHAPMAN.
06:37:37PM 5011 97th AVENUE.
06:37:40PM I HAVE DOCUMENTS TO PASS AROUND FOR THE RECORD SO AS I
06:38:01PM MENTIONED I LIVE ON 97th AVENUE.
06:38:07PM PRETTY MUCH DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED
06:38:10PM SITE.
06:38:10PM YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST THREE PICTURES, THIS SHOWS YOU --
06:38:14PM LOOKING ON 97th AVENUE LOOKING WEST TOWARD 50th STREET AND
06:38:18PM THE PROPOSED SITE IS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE WITH THE ORANGE
06:38:22PM FENCE.
06:38:22PM I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT 97th AVENUE IS JUST .1 MILES LONG.
06:38:27PM IT IS NO NOT A LONG STRETCH.
06:38:31PM TWO 90-DEGREE TURNS ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD.
06:38:35PM THE PROPOSED SITE IS 20 YARDS FROM ONE OF THOSE 90-DEGREE
06:38:41PM TURNS AND PICTURES 4-8 SHOW YOU THAT TURN GOING ON TO 97th
06:38:46PM AVENUE FROM 50s.
06:38:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, IF YOU CAN SO THE PETITIONER CAN TAKE
06:38:51PM A HOOK AT THEM.
06:38:52PM PUT THEM ON THE ELMO THERE OR I CAN GIVE HIM A COPY.
06:38:55PM >> I WILL SEE IF I CAN --
06:38:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAY THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT AS WELL.
06:39:01PM >> OKAY.
06:39:02PM SO THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THREE PICTURES THAT I
06:39:07PM MENTIONED.
06:39:07PM LOOKING TOWARD 50th STREET ON 97th AVENUE.
06:39:12PM AGAIN LOOKING WEST TOWARD 50th STREET.
06:39:19PM THIS PHOTO IS ON THE CORNER OF 50th STREET TURNING ON TO
06:39:24PM 97th AVENUE.
06:39:24PM THE PROPOSED SITE IS 20 YARDS FROM THAT TURN ON THE
06:39:30PM LEFT-HAND SIDE WHERE THE ORANGE FENCE IS.
06:39:32PM HERE IS ANOTHER PHOTO FROM THE SAME CORNER.
06:39:35PM JUST AT A DIFFERENT ANGLE.
06:39:38PM AND HERE IS A THIRD PHOTO OF THE SAME CORNER.
06:39:41PM AND THE NEXT PHOTO WILL SHOW YOU HOW TIGHT THAT CORNER IS
06:39:44PM WITH TWO CARS, TRYING TO PASS THAT CORNER.
06:39:47PM THERE IS VERY LITTLE ROOM ON THIS CORNER WITH THE PROPOSED
06:39:54PM SITE RIGHT NEAR THAT BITE SUV IS COMING THROUGH.
06:39:59PM MY CONCERN IS THAT IT IS A SIGNIFICANT SAFETY CONCERN FOR
06:40:02PM THIS STREET WITH THE LENGTH OF THE STREET AND THE AMOUNT OF
06:40:05PM TRAFFIC THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE STREET.
06:40:07PM THE PRESENTER BEFORE ME MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE R-35 BE
06:40:14PM THIS BLOCK.
06:40:15PM THAT IS THE NEXT BLOCK TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH.
06:40:19PM THERE ARE NO R-35 DWELLINGS ON THIS STREET.
06:40:23PM THERE ARE DUPLEXES IN FRONT OF THE PROPOSED SITE.
06:40:27PM AS MENTIONED, THERE ARE FOUR DUPLEXES WITH EIGHT FAMILIES
06:40:32PM LIVING THERE.
06:40:33PM I WOULD SAY THAT IS AN ACCEPTABLE BUILD FOR THIS SIZE OF A
06:40:36PM DIET.
06:40:37PM THIS ROAD CANNOT HANDLE AN ADDITIONAL 35 TO 50 DWELLINGS.
06:40:44PM JUST A SAFETY CONCERN.
06:40:46PM THE LAST PHOTO SHOWED THE CORNER ON 97th AVENUE.
06:40:54PM THE FENCE HAS BEEN HIT TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME.
06:40:57PM TORN DOWN.
06:40:58PM RUN THROUGH.
06:40:58PM AND RUN OVER.
06:40:59PM THE OTHER CONCERN IS DRAINAGE.
06:41:02PM THE DRAINAGE YOU SEE RIGHT THERE IS THE ONLY DRAINAGE ON
06:41:07PM 97th AVENUE.
06:41:08PM THE WATER THROWS WEST TO EAST.
06:41:10PM AND SOUTH TO NORTH.
06:41:13PM WHERE THE PROPOSED SITE IS RIGHT THERE IN THE CONVERSION.
06:41:17PM IF YOU BUILD THAT PROPERTY UP AND WITHOUT PROPER DRAINING,
06:41:21PM WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
06:41:23PM ANOTHER THING IS A PROPOSED EIGHT-STORY BUILDING.
06:41:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS MORE.
06:41:31PM >> PROPOSED EIGHT-STORY BUILDING AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL
06:41:34PM BE LOOKING RIGHT DOWN INTO PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS.
06:41:37PM THERE ARE HOUSES ALL THE WAY AROUND.
06:41:39PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:41:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:41:42PM ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS, PLEASE?
06:42:04PM >> GOOD EVEN, COUNCILMEMBERS.
06:42:06PM STEVEN WALTERS AT 507 AND 5106.
06:42:12PM THE CONCERNS I BRING FOR YOU IS DUE TO THE INCREASE IN THE
06:42:15PM AMOUNT OF BUILDINGS ON 5006 EAST 97th AVENUE TO BE BUILT.
06:42:20PM OUR STREET, 97th AVENUE, MEASURING IN AT 1.1 MILE, IS A
06:42:26PM CONNECTOR FOR BOTH MYRTLE AND 50s STREET.
06:42:28PM BOTH ENDS OF OUR STREET, EAST AND WEST, HAVE SHARP 90-DEGREE
06:42:34PM TURNS.
06:42:34PM BOTH OF THEM POSTED WITH TWO TEN-MILE-PER-HOUR SIGNS.
06:42:38PM ONE FROM EACH CORNER.
06:42:41PM FOR SOME REASON, NO ONE OBEYS THEM OR PAYS ATTENTION TO
06:42:44PM THEM.
06:42:44PM A BRAND-NEW 25-MILE-PER-HOUR SIGN POSTED ON OUR STREET AS
06:42:48PM WELL ALSO IGNORED.
06:42:50PM THE CORNER OF 50th AND 97th AVENUE WHERE THE PROPOSED
06:42:54PM BUILDING IS TO TAKE MACE IS A BLIND CORNER.
06:42:56PM EITHER WAY, COMING OR GOING YOU CAN NOT SEE ONCOMING
06:43:01PM TRAFFIC.
06:43:01PM 25 TO 35-PLUS MULTIFAMILY UNITS FROM 97th AVENUE ON THIS
06:43:07PM BLIND CORNER WILL MEAN UP TO IF NOT EXCEEDING 40 TO 70
06:43:11PM CHANCES FOR ACCIDENTS PER DAY WITH CARS COMING IN AND OUT OF
06:43:14PM THAT LOCATION.
06:43:15PM THE ORIGINAL 14 UNITS GRANTED IS MORE THAN PLENTY FOR THIS
06:43:19PM SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE STREET .1 MILE THAT IS USED
06:43:27PM AS STRUCTURE.
06:43:29PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ORIGINAL HAS ASKED TO PAST CITY COUNCIL TO
06:43:34PM MAKE OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD HOME ROAD SAFER, SPEED TABLE,
06:43:38PM SPEED CUSHIONS AND SPEED BUMPS DENIED.
06:43:41PM REASON BEING, NOT ENOUGH TRAFFIC ON THE STREET.
06:43:45PM ADDING MORE HOUSES TO THE SMALL AREA ISN'T THE ANSWER.
06:43:48PM PROPOSED CONNECTING 350th STREET STRAIGHT THROUGH AT 50th
06:43:53PM AND 97th AVENUE TACOMA AND LINEBAUGH AVENUE HAVE A FOUR-WAY
06:43:59PM TRACK.
06:43:59PM TACOMA AND SERENA DRIVE GOT A THREE-WAY STOP PUT IN WITH
06:44:05PM CROSSING LINES.
06:44:06PM IF AND WHEN BUILDINGS ARE BUILT ON THAT PROPERTY 50th AND
06:44:10PM 57th AVENUE WILL DEFINITELY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
06:44:12PM MY NEXT CONCERN THAT I AM BRINGING TO YOU TONIGHT IS THE
06:44:16PM WATER DRAINAGE IN THAT AREA AND THE SOIL HEALTH OF THAT
06:44:20PM PROPERTY.
06:44:20PM THE WEST SIDE PROPERTIES OF EAST 97th AVENUE HAD STANDING
06:44:25PM WATER WITH HEAVY RAINS OVER OUR RAINY SEASON.
06:44:28PM THE NEIGHBOR TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY BEING SPOKE OF HAVE
06:44:31PM STATED WHEN SHE WALKS IN HER YARD DAYS AFTER A RAIN, SHE CAN
06:44:35PM STILL SEE, FEEL AND HEAR THE RAINWATER IN HER YARD FROM THE
06:44:39PM POOR DRAINAGE AND RAIN FLOWING DOWN FROM THE STREET AND
06:44:42PM PROPOSED PROPERTY NEXT DOOR.
06:44:44PM THAT AREA OF LAND USED TO BE TREES AND SWAMP AREA BACK
06:44:47PM BEFORE 2017.
06:44:49PM THE FIELD IN THE BACK 5102 EAST 97th AVENUE USED TO BE A
06:44:58PM SAND FIELD AND FULL TREES.
06:45:02PM AND SOME OF THOSE TREES THAT USED TO HELP RETAIN THE RAIN
06:45:06PM WATER AND HELP WITH EROSION ARE STILL LYING ON GROUND FROM
06:45:10PM BEING KNOCKED DOWN AND UPROOTED.
06:45:12PM I AM MORE THAN POSITIVE WITH THE FILL, DIRT THAT WILL HAVE
06:45:16PM TO BE BROUGHT IN TO BUILD UP OR COVER UP FOR THE POOR SOIL
06:45:21PM CONDITION THAT HAVE YET BEEN TESTED FOR, THE PROPERTIES ON
06:45:24PM 5006 AND 5012 WILL MORE LIKELY CAUSE FOR DRAINAGE ISSUES FOR
06:45:31PM THE NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST AND THE FULL ESTABLISHED DUPLEXES.
06:45:35PM AND EVEN WITH THE STORM DRAINS IN THE AREA AND THE NEW
06:45:37PM DRAINAGE PROVIDED --
06:45:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:45:40PM >> THREE MINUTES IS NOT ENOUGH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.
06:45:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
06:45:56PM WE HAVE NO ONE ONLINE?
06:46:03PM REBUTTAL.
06:46:03PM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH GREAT RESPECT TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE
06:46:08PM HERE.
06:46:09PM GREAT RESPECT FOR THEM TO COME DOWN TO COUNCIL.
06:46:12PM 40 NOTICES WERE SENT OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ONLY TWO
06:46:16PM INDIVIDUALS ARE HERE.
06:46:16PM I THINK THAT IS A PRETTY GOOD ACCOUNTING OF THE AREA.
06:46:19PM IN REGARDS TO STAFF COMMENTS, THE YOUNG LADY POINTED OUT TO
06:46:24PM MULTIFAMILY JUST ON THIS AREA HERE.
06:46:26PM WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DEMONSTRATE THAT ON THE MOCK BLOCK,
06:46:33PM THEY INDICATED MULTIFAMILY HERE AND OVER.
06:46:36PM APPROXIMATELY HALF THE BLOCK IS MULTIFAMILY.
06:46:40PM THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA IS MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE-FAMILY.
06:46:42PM SECOND OF ALL, THE GENTLEMAN BROKE EIGHT-STORY BUILDING FROM
06:46:48PM ZONING.
06:46:48PM WHAT HE DIDN'T TELL YOU, ANYTHING ABOVE 30 FEET REQUIRES A
06:46:52PM TWO-FOR-ONE SETBACK.
06:46:55PM THIS PROPERTY HAS LINEAR ELEMENTS TO IT.
06:46:57PM SO THOSE SETBACKS WILL RESTRICT ANYTHING FROM AN EIGHT-STORY
06:47:02PM BUILDING.
06:47:02PM I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU ANOTHER MISCHARACTERIZATION.
06:47:06PM THERE HAS BEEN NO TECHNICAL PRESENTATION, TRANSPORTATION
06:47:09PM ISSUES.
06:47:10PM THAT FACT THE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT THE CITY WOULD NOT EVEN
06:47:13PM PUT THIS HUMPS OR OTHER ELEMENTS BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH TRAFFIC
06:47:16PM ON THE ROADWAY.
06:47:17PM THE ROADS ARE WELL SIGNED AS I SHOWED YOU.
06:47:19PM THEY ARE BARRICADED.
06:47:21PM SO THEY ARE VERY SAFE IN THAT RESPECT.
06:47:23PM BUT I THINK -- I THINK WHAT YOU REALLY NEED -- WITH GREAT
06:47:30PM RESPECT, WHAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER ARE THE HOUSING COMP
06:47:33PM POLICIES THAT TELL YOU TO ATTRACT RESIDENTS, PROMOTE MIXED
06:47:37PM INCOME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, MIXED INCOME IN THE
06:47:40PM UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT -- WHICH THIS IS IN THE
06:47:44PM UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT.
06:47:45PM CREATE A DIVERSITY TO MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA.
06:47:49PM THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
06:47:51PM ENCOURAGE RETENTION OF MULTIFAMILY.
06:47:53PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR INFILL IN AREAS JUST LIKE THIS TODAY.
06:47:57PM THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY.
06:47:59PM AND THE -- AND THE UNIVERSITY COMMUNITY PLAN SPECIFICALLY
06:48:02PM TALKS ABOUT FLEXIBILITY FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR THESE TYPE OF
06:48:06PM USES.
06:48:06PM AND ENCOURAGED INFILL FOR COMPATIBILITY.
06:48:10PM STANDARDS FOR MODERATE DENSITY, MULTIFAMILY ZONES SHOULD BE
06:48:15PM ON A SCALE THAT DIFFERS FROM THOSE OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY AND
06:48:19PM LOW DENSITY MULTI FAMILY.
06:48:20PM THEY WANT A DIFFERENCE OF HOUSING IN AREAS NOT JUST THE
06:48:24PM SCENE.
06:48:25PM SO FINALLY I WILL JUST SAY AGAIN THAT THE AREAS THAT ROUTES
06:48:30PM FOR TRANSPORTATION OF THE NORTH, SOUTH, EAST AND WEST TO ALL
06:48:34PM THE MAJOR ARTERIALS AND NOT JUST RELYING ON ONE PARTICULAR
06:48:39PM STREET.
06:48:39PM WITH THAT IN SUMMARY, WE LOOKED AT THE SITE WHAT WILL FIT
06:48:42PM BEST, WHAT THE DEMAND IS AND WHAT THE HOUSING NEEDS ARE IN
06:48:47PM THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
06:48:48PM THANK YOU.
06:48:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
06:48:57PM A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:48:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:49:01PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:49:02PM ANY OPPOSED.
06:49:04PM MOTION PASSES.
06:49:06PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
06:49:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL GO AHEAD AND READ IT.
06:49:11PM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
06:49:14PM CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA
06:49:18PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FUTURE LAND USE MAP AT THE PROPERTY
06:49:21PM LOCATED AT 5012 AND 5006 EAST 97TH AVENUE AND FOLIO NUMBERS
06:49:38PM 142830.5025, 142830.5050, 142830.5075 AND 142834.0025 FROM
06:49:38PM RESIDENTIAL-10, R-10 TO RESIDENTIAL-35, R-35.
06:49:45PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:49:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
06:49:55PM MANISCALCO.
06:49:55PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:49:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIR, IF WE COULD BRING UP MR. VIERA
06:50:02PM -- COUNCILMAN VIERA ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE.
06:50:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM UP.
06:50:05PM CAN YOU ALL NOT SEE ME?
06:50:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO -- THERE YOU ARE.
06:50:09PM THANK YOU.
06:50:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, I AM SORRY.
06:50:12PM I'M HERE.
06:50:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
06:50:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:50:21PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:50:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
06:50:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:50:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:50:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
06:50:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:50:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:50:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:50:41PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK, VIERA VOTING NO.
06:50:47PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 16, 2023
06:51:00PM THAT 9:0 A.M.
06:51:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:51:06PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX.
06:51:08PM FILE NO. AB2-23-06.
06:51:09PM >>ANNIE BARNES: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:51:17PM ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:51:20PM ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NO. AB2-23-06.
06:51:22PM THIS REQUEST IS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6401 NORTH FLORIDA
06:51:29PM AVENUE.
06:51:29PM THE REQUEST IS FOR A SMALL VENUE BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR
06:51:36PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE
06:51:40PM CONSUMPTION.
06:51:41PM A CRAFT DISTILLERY.
06:51:43PM AB SALES AREA --
06:51:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MADAM CLERK HAS JUST GIVEN ME A HAND SIGNAL.
06:51:52PM ANYONE WHO IS GIVING TESTIMONY IN THE REST OF THE HEARING
06:51:56PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN.
06:52:00PM [SWEARING IN]
06:52:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:52:11PM MISS BARNES, PLEASE CONTINUE.
06:52:13PM >>ANNIE BARNES: THE SITE PLAN IS -- IT IS REQUIRED TEN
06:52:17PM PARKING SPACES; HOWEVER, A WAIVER WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
06:52:22PM THROUGH V 13-80 TO FROM FOUR TO ONLY REQUIRE SIX PARKING
06:52:29PM SPACES.
06:52:29PM THE SITE PLAN SHOW THE HOURS OF OPERATION WHICH ARE NOT
06:52:32PM CHANGING FROM THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AB2 MONDAY THROUGH
06:52:36PM FRIDAY 4 TO 11 P.M.
06:52:38PM SATURDAY, 12 A.M. TO 12 P.M. AND SATURDAY, 12 P.M. TO 9 P.M.
06:52:44PM SUBJECT PROPERTY IN THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR VILLAGE AND
06:52:49PM DISTANCE SEPARATION IS 250 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL USES AND
06:52:53PM ABSALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
06:52:54PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TWO WAIVERS.
06:52:58PM ONE IS TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED DISTANCE FROM OTHER AB SALES
06:53:05PM ESTABLISHMENTS FROM.
06:53:09PM AND THE NEXT IS TO PROVIDE RESIDENTIAL USES FROM 250 FEET TO
06:53:13PM 67 FEET.
06:53:13PM THERE ARE SEVERAL SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED BETWEEN
06:53:21PM FIRST AND SECOND READING IF APPROVING THIS APPLICATION.
06:53:24PM STAFF, HOWEVER, IS INCONSISTENT BASED ON THOSE WAIVERS.
06:53:28PM AND I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF THE SITE.
06:53:32PM SHOWN HERE IN THE RED IS THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED ALONG
06:53:46PM NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
06:53:49PM SO SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE
06:53:55PM AND ALONG -- NOW ALONG FERN FACING NORTH.
06:53:59PM THIS IS SUBJECT PROPERTY DIRECTLY WEST OF THE SUBJECT SKEET.
06:54:04PM DIRECTLY BEHIND SHOWING PART OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:54:10PM AND THEN THIS IS WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:54:12PM AND YOU CAN SEE TRIP'S DINER IN THE DISTANCE.
06:54:18PM THIS IS PROPERTY DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE ACROSS
06:54:27PM FERN.
06:54:27PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
06:54:30PM QUESTIONS.
06:54:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:54:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS WAS ALREADY A BREWERY AND NO YOU IT IS A
06:54:36PM BREWERY AGAIN.
06:54:37PM WHAT EXACTLY --
06:54:39PM >>ANNIE BARNES: CRAFT DISTILLERY.
06:54:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CHANGING FROM BREWERY TO CRAFT DISTILLERY.
06:54:45PM OTHERWISE NOTHING IS CHANGING?
06:54:50PM >>ANNIE BARNES: AND ADDING LIQUOR.
06:54:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS GOING TO FUNCTION THE SAME WAY IT HAS
06:54:55PM FUNCTIONED.
06:54:56PM >>ANNIE BARNES: JUST ADDING LIQUOR.
06:54:58PM CORRECT.
06:54:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PETITIONER.
06:55:14PM >> HELLO, GREG BARNHILL.
06:55:19PM REPRESENTING 6401 67th AVENUE LCC.
06:55:25PM I HAVE ANSWERS FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
06:55:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
06:55:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION.
06:55:34PM BASICALLY ALL YOU ARE DOING IS CHANGING THIS TO LIQUOR BUT
06:55:37PM YOU ARE NOT REALLY CHANGING HOW THIS FUNCTIONS?
06:55:40PM >> CORRECT.
06:55:41PM THE NEW TENANT OLOGY BREWING IN ADDITION TO BEER AND WINE
06:55:47PM ARE REQUESTING TO DES STILL ALCOHOL ON-SITE.
06:55:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, THANK YOU.
06:55:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS IS YOUR OWN DISTILLED ALCOHOL, CORRECT?
06:55:56PM >> CORRECT.
06:55:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE -- I HAVE ISSUES WITH THESE TYPES OF
06:56:00PM THINGS.
06:56:01PM WE SHALL NOTHING ILL-WILL, BUT IF THE BUSINESS OWNER GOES
06:56:05PM OUT OF BUSINESS, THIS WILL STILL BE A PACKAGE STORE WHICH
06:56:09PM THEN MEANS IT COULD TURN INTO BUD ICE.
06:56:12PM AS BLUE RIBBON AND SMIRNOF.
06:56:17PM I SOMETIMES HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CHANGING THESE THINGS IN
06:56:20PM UNFORESEEN EVENTS THAT HAPPEN TO ALL OF US.
06:56:23PM >> IF I MIGHT CLARIFY, THERE IS CURRENTLY BEER AND WINE
06:56:29PM MANUFACTURING AND SALES ON THE SITE.
06:56:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS BEER AND WINE SALES ON-SITE.
06:56:36PM >> YES.
06:56:37PM >> BUT NOT LIQUOR NOW.
06:56:39PM >> CORRECT.
06:56:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY POINT WAS IN THE FUTURE IF YOU DO GET THE
06:56:43PM PACKAGE SALES.
06:56:44PM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
06:56:50PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
06:56:52PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NO. AB2-23-06.
06:56:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:57:06PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:57:08PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:57:09PM OBJECTION?
06:57:10PM MOTION PASSES.
06:57:11PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:57:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOT TO READ IT.
06:57:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO WILL READ IT?
06:57:17PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:57:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NO. AB2-23-06,
06:57:25PM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE
06:57:27PM APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
06:57:33PM SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES
06:57:39PM OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES
06:57:43PM REGARDING OF ALCOHOL CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, OF
06:57:48PM CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND OF 6401 NORTH FLORIDA
06:57:55PM AVENUE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3,
06:57:57PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:58:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED BY
06:58:04PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:58:05PM ROLL CALL.
06:58:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:58:08PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:58:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:58:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:58:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:58:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:58:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
06:58:16PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO VOTING NO.
06:58:21PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 16, 2023
06:58:26PM AT 9:30 A.M.
06:58:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:58:31PM >> THANK YOU.
06:58:31PM FILE NO. AB2-23-07.
06:58:41PM >>ANNIE BARNES: BARNS BARN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:58:45PM ITEM NUMBER 7 IS FILE NO. AB2-23-07 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED
06:58:51PM 4308 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD.
06:58:53PM THE REQUEST IS FOR SMALL VENUE, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR,
06:58:58PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE ONLY.
06:58:59PM THE USE IS A BAR LOUNGE.
06:59:01PM APPROXIMATELY -- FOR A TOTAL -- THERE IS INDOOR AND OUTDOOR
06:59:07PM SPACE FOR 2628 SQUARE FEET.
06:59:11PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS REQUIRED TO HAVE 148 PARKING SPACES, A
06:59:16PM DESIGN EXCEPTION, WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TO ONLY REQUIRE
06:59:20PM 105 PARKING SPOTS -- SPACES.
06:59:23PM AND THE -- THE PROPOSED OPERATIONS -- OPERATION WILL BE
06:59:29PM CONSISTENT TO CHAPTER 14.
06:59:30PM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITH A MIXED USE CORRIDOR
06:59:35PM VILLAGE AND DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS IS 250 FEET FROM
06:59:38PM RESIDENTIAL USES AND OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS.
06:59:41PM THE APPLICANT IS ASKING ONE WAIVER TO REDUCE THE REQUIRED
06:59:46PM DISTANCE SEPARATION TO OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS FROM
06:59:51PM $250 FEET TO ZERO FEET.
06:59:53PM THE ADJACENT ADJOINING BUILDING HAS THAT AB SALES.
06:59:58PM AND -- I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE SITE.
07:00:08PM SO SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE, SOUTH OF GANDY, EAST OF
07:00:18PM MANISCALCO.
07:00:18PM AND THIS IS --
07:00:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE --
07:00:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GET IT FULL.
07:00:24PM >>ANNIE BARNES: SORRY?
07:00:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I.T.?
07:00:28PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:00:29PM >>ANNIE BARNES: IT DIDN'T SHOW UP?
07:00:30PM ALL RIGHT.
07:00:30PM THIS IS DIRECTLY SOUTH OF GANDY.
07:00:33PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
07:00:35PM DIRECTLY EAST OF THE SUBJECT SKEET, YOU CAN SEE THAT
07:00:41PM ADJOINING BUILDING.
07:00:42PM WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND PROPERTY DIRECTLY NORTH OF
07:00:51PM GANDY.
07:00:52PM STAFF DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT BASED ON THE WAIVER
07:00:56PM REQUESTED.
07:00:56PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
07:00:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
07:01:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH A WAS THE WAIVER REQUESTED?
07:01:03PM >>ANNIE BARNES: REDUCE DISTANCE FROM 250 FEET TO ZERO FEET
07:01:07PM FOR OTHER AB SALES ESTABLISHMENTS AND EXISTING PUN EVEN
07:01:11PM THOUGH IT APPEARS FROM PICTURES THAT USE HAS CEASED.
07:01:14PM IT WAS A CARRABBA'S TAKEOUT.
07:01:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FROM THE PICTURES I SEE THERE IS A
07:01:21PM WENDY'S AND A WALMART.
07:01:23PM ALL COMMERCIAL.
07:01:25PM >>ANNIE BARNES: THE VALUE PAWN HAS THE CURRENT AB ACTIVE.
07:01:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW THEY ARE ALL COMMERCIAL.
07:01:35PM THEY ARE GOING DEEP --
07:01:37PM >>ANNIE BARNES: I APOLOGIZE.
07:01:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WAS A CARRABBA'S.
07:01:43PM I KNOW THE PROPERTY IS DEEP AND RESIDENTIAL IS PRETTY FAR
07:01:46PM AWAY.
07:01:46PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:01:48PM >>ANNIE BARNES: SO SORRY.
07:01:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
07:01:58PM PETITIONER.
07:01:58PM >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
07:02:12PM MY NAME IS MARK BENTLEY, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET TAMPA,
07:02:17PM 33602 AND I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT MR. JEFF BARNES WHO IS
07:02:21PM SEEKING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A SMALL VENUE AT
07:02:25PM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
07:02:26PM SIMILAR TO THE LAST CASE YOU HEARD, THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY
07:02:29PM WET ZONED FOR BEER AND WINE.
07:02:30PM SO IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, IT WILL ADD A LIQUOR COMPONENT TO
07:02:36PM THE USE OF THE PROPERTY.
07:02:37PM THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF
07:02:44PM MANHATTAN AND GANDY WHICH CAN BE CHARACTERIZED AS A VERY
07:02:47PM INTENSE, HIGHLY COMMERCIALIZED AREA OF TAMPA FOR EXAMPLE,
07:02:51PM NORTH OF THE SITE IS THE McDONALD'S AND GANDY BOULEVARD AND
07:02:55PM PUBLIX SHOPPING CENTER AND SCAN DESIGN.
07:02:58PM TO THE EAST IS VALUE PAWN AND WANT.
07:03:03PM AND TO THE NORTH A WALMART.
07:03:06PM AND TO THE WEST IS A JIFFY LUBE AND A WENDY'S.
07:03:10PM VERY COMMERCIAL IN THIS AREA.
07:03:14PM NOTABLY NO WAIVERS ARE SOUGHT IN CONNECTION TO THE LAND
07:03:19PM DEVELOPMENT CODE SITE REGULATIONS IN TERMS OF PARKING AND
07:03:22PM THINGS LIKE THAT.
07:03:23PM THE ONLY WAIVER BEING SOUGHT IS TO THE VACANT TENANT SPACE
07:03:27PM NEXT DOOR WHICH USED TO BE A CARRABBA'S TAKEOUT WHICH IS
07:03:31PM STILL ACTIVE.
07:03:32PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST GO THROUGH A FEW GRAPHICS TO
07:03:40PM SHOW COMPLIANCE AND JUSTIFICATION FOR THE WAIVER BEING
07:03:46PM SOUGHT TONIGHT.
07:03:46PM HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
07:03:49PM ABOUT 4,000 SQUARE FEET OF TENANT SPACE.
07:03:52PM AS I MENTIONED, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL USES IN
07:03:57PM THE DIRECT VICINITY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES.
07:04:01PM HERE IS THE PROPERTY, VALUE PAWN, JIFFY LUBE, ETC.
07:04:06PM WHAT THIS MAP DEPICTS IS OUR EXISTING ACTIVE ABs APPROVED BY
07:04:16PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
07:04:16PM HERE IS THE SUBJECT SKEET.
07:04:18PM 400 SQUARE FOOT OUTDOOR AREA ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE
07:04:36PM LOCATION.
07:04:37PM HERE IS THE CA RAB PAS THAT WAS CLOSED DOWN
07:04:44PM OUTBACK-CARRABBA'S CARRYOUT.
07:04:46PM HOWEVER, THAT AB IS STILL ACTIVE.
07:04:49PM IN PREPARATION OF THE HEARING, I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO THE
07:04:54PM COUNCIL'S POLICY WITH RESPECT TO GRANTING WAIVERS AS THEY
07:04:57PM RELATE FROM AB TO AB.
07:04:59PM SO WE HAVE REVIEWED CITY COUNCIL ACTIONS IN THE YEAR 2022
07:05:04PM RELATING TO REQUEST THAT SOUGHT WAIVERS.
07:05:09PM AND A TOTAL OF EIGHT OF THE 23 RECEIVED THE WAIVER.
07:05:12PM AND EIGHT OF THOSE -- FOUR INCLUDED RESIDENTIAL USES.
07:05:16PM SO IT APPEARS THAT COUNCIL'S POLICY TO GRANT THE WAIVER
07:05:20PM UNLESS THERE IS COMPELLING REASON NOT TO DO SO BASED ON OUR
07:05:24PM RESEARCH.
07:05:24PM WITH RESPECT TO AB ESTABLISHMENT HOURS, SURVEY OF
07:05:28PM SURROUNDING USES, EXISTING ABs SAY THAT ALL OF THEM HAVE
07:05:33PM BEEN IMPROVED CONSISTENT TO CHAPTER 14 BEING SOUGHT BY THE
07:05:38PM CLIENT TONIGHT.
07:05:40PM IN SUMMARY, THE REQUEST MEETS THE REQUEST OF THE LDC OF
07:05:44PM GENERAL AND SPECIFIC STANDARDS.
07:05:45PM WILL NOT SET A PRECEDENT AND CONSISTENT WITH LAND
07:05:49PM DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WITH SITE DEVELOPMENT.
07:05:51PM COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING ZONING PATTERN AND DEVELOPMENT
07:05:54PM PARTISAN EARN, THE CHARACTER OF AT AREA AND RECEIVED
07:05:58PM COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
07:05:58PM WE RECEIVED THREE LETTERS IN SUPPORT AND I BELIEVE ONE FROM
07:06:02PM MISS POYNOR AND HOPEFULLY THEY FILTERED ON TO YOUR OFFICES.
07:06:07PM THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY
07:06:09PM QUESTIONS.
07:06:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
07:06:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:06:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:06:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL ASK -- DO YOU HAVE ANY OUTDOOR
07:06:21PM AMPLIFIED MUSIC?
07:06:24PM >> THERE WILL BE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED MUSIC BUT WILL ADHERE --
07:06:28PM OFF ACTIVITY WILL ADHERE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA NOISE
07:06:32PM ORDINANCE.
07:06:33PM IF YOU KNOW THAT AREA -- THERE IS NO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES
07:06:35PM THAT WILL BE IMPACTED.
07:06:36PM GANDY BOULEVARD.
07:06:38PM YOU PROBABLY COULDN'T MARY THE MUSIC OVER ALL THE TRAFFIC ON
07:06:42PM GANDY AND THE ELEVATED EXPRESSWAY AND A JIFFY LUBE AND A
07:06:46PM WENDY'S NEXT DOOR WITH A SQUAWK BOX AND SPEAKER TO MAKE
07:06:51PM ORDERS.
07:06:51PM SO IT IS A TINY AREA WITH A COUPLE OF TABLES AND PROBABLY BE
07:06:55PM A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS OUT THERE BUT WILL ADHERE TO THE CITY
07:07:00PM OF TAMPA NOISE ORDINANCE.
07:07:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
07:07:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
07:07:08PM MAY I -- MAY I ASK.
07:07:10PM IS MR. MANASSE WITH YOU.
07:07:14PM >> WELL, I AM WITH HIM.
07:07:15PM [LAUGHTER]
07:07:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS MR. MANASSE GOING TO BE SPEAKING?
07:07:27PM >> IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIM SPEAK.
07:07:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM.
07:07:32PM YOU KNOW I HAVE A BURNING QUESTION.
07:07:33PM >> RYAN MANASSE FOR THE RECORD.
07:07:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU OLD ENOUGH TO BE TALKING ABOUT
07:07:39PM ALCOHOL?
07:07:40PM >> I THINK THE WORD GOT OUT.
07:07:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET ME ASK YOU.
07:07:43PM HOW OLD ARE YOU?
07:07:46PM >> I AM 40 YEARS OLD TODAY.
07:07:47PM >> HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
07:07:51PM >> THANK YOU.
07:07:52PM AND HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH SO MANY PEOPLE I WORKED WITH FOR
07:07:55PM SO MANY YEARS.
07:07:55PM I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS, SO IT'S GREAT.
07:07:58PM >> WE BOUGHT HIM A BOTTLE OF SCOTCH FOR HIS BIRTHDAY.
07:08:03PM >> GOING HOME WITH ME.
07:08:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT, ENOUGH, SIT DOWN.
07:08:07PM >> OKAY.
07:08:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR THE
07:08:10PM PETITIONER?
07:08:12PM YES.
07:08:12PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE -- IN THE CHAMBERS WISH TO SPEAK TO
07:08:16PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FILE NO. AB2-23-07.
07:08:20PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE?
07:08:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:08:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:08:29PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:08:30PM ALL IN FAVOR.
07:08:32PM THANK YOU.
07:08:32PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:08:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:08:35PM FILE NUMBER FILE NO. AB2-23-07 ORDINANCE BEING FOR FIRST
07:08:42PM READING PRESENTATION FOR CONSIDERATION AND ORDINANCE
07:08:45PM APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2, FOR CHAL BEVERAGE SALES
07:08:50PM SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE ONLY, MAKING LAWFUL THE
07:08:55PM ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR AT OR CERTAIN LOT,
07:09:00PM PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED 4308 WEST GANDY BEAUTIFUL,
07:09:06PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3
07:09:08PM PROVIDING THAT ORDINANCES ARE REPEALED AND PROVIDING AN
07:09:14PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:09:15PM >> SECOND.
07:09:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I KNOW WHAT MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ IS GOING TO
07:09:21PM SAY.
07:09:22PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: REPEALING AB 1, 1835 AS PART OF THE
07:09:27PM --
07:09:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM SORRY.
07:09:29PM ORDINANCE REPEALING AB 1-18-35 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:09:35PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THANK YOU, SIR.
07:09:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU THREW ME A CURVEBALL.
07:09:41PM YOU GOT ME.
07:09:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:09:44PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:09:46PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:09:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:09:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:09:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:09:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:09:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:09:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:10:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:10:01PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:10:05PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ON MARCH 16, 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
07:10:11PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:10:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
07:10:14PM >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
07:10:16PM APPRECIATE IT.
07:10:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
07:10:19PM INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
07:10:24PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:10:25PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:10:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTHING, SIR.
07:10:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANYTHING?
07:10:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, IF I MAY.
07:10:35PM I MOVE FOR A WORKSHOP ON BUSCH BOULEVARD.
07:10:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
07:10:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BRING UP HIS VOLUME PLEASE.
07:10:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME?
07:10:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:10:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE FOR A WORKSHOP ON BUSCH BOULEVARD,
07:10:49PM INCLUDING SPEEDING ON BUSCH BOULEVARD AND DIFFERENT MOBILITY
07:10:55PM ISSUES FOR BUSCH BOULEVARD INCLUDING ASKING FDOT TO COME FOR
07:11:00PM WORKSHOPS.
07:11:01PM LET'S SAY IN -- LET'S DO JUNE, PLEASE.
07:11:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WILL BE JUNE 22?
07:11:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IT WOULD BE.
07:11:14PM THANK YOU.
07:11:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:11:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:11:21PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
07:11:22PM OPPOSED?
07:11:23PM MOTION PASSES.
07:11:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
07:11:27PM THANK YOU, SIR.
07:11:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:11:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STEPHEN
07:11:34PM BENSON COORDINATE WITH STAFF AND REPORT ON FUNDS THAT ARE
07:11:37PM COLLECTED BY THE CITY THAT ARE RELATED TO TREES,
07:11:39PM SPECIFICALLY, ONE, HOW MANY DIFFERENT FUNDS EXIST.
07:11:42PM TWO, HOW MUCH MONEY IS COLLECTED IN EACH.
07:11:44PM THREE, WHAT ARE THE EXPENDITURES IN EACH.
07:11:47PM FOUR, THE AVERAGE CONTRIBUTION TO EACH FUND.
07:11:50PM FIVE, HOW MANY TREES ARE PURCHASED AND PLANTED IN EACH FUND
07:11:54PM -- FROM EACH FUND.
07:11:55PM SIX, THE COST OF MAINTENANCE OF THE TREES.
07:11:57PM SEVEN, ANYTHING ELSE THAT MONEY IS SPENT ON FROM EACH FUND.
07:12:02PM I SPOKE ALREADY TO STEPHEN.
07:12:05PM AND I WILL HAVE HIM REPORT BACK ON APRIL 20 IN STAFF
07:12:09PM REPORTS, REPORTING ON FISCAL YEAR 2022.
07:12:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
07:12:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:12:15PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:12:17PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:12:19PM ANY OBJECTION?
07:12:21PM MOTION PASSES.
07:12:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:12:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TAMPA CITY COUNCIL TO GIVE NAZERAH FOR
07:12:31PM SECOND ANNUAL AWARDS BASIC FOR THE 24th THAT IS TOMORROW.
07:12:34PM THEY HAVE THE COLONEL THAT WILL BE GUEST SPEAKER TOMORROW.
07:12:37PM I WILL BE THERE FOR THE PRESENTATION.
07:12:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:12:41PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:12:44PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:12:46PM OPPOSED?
07:12:47PM MOTION PASSES.
07:12:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I NEED TO RUN TO THE ELMO RIGHT QUICK,
07:12:51PM GENTLEMEN.
07:12:51PM GENTLEMEN, CAN YOU SEE THAT?
07:13:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, WE CAN.
07:13:11PM PUBLIC DOES NOT.
07:13:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS WEEK WHEN I WAS DOING MY TRAVELS IN
07:13:15PM THE CITY, SUPPOSED TO BE A MEETING FOR THE MOBILITY OVER AT
07:13:19PM TAMPA HEIGHTS.
07:13:20PM AND AS I CAME ACROSS, I SAW THE SMALL LITTLE SIGN ON THE
07:13:24PM ROADWAY AS I WAS PUTTING OUT SOME SIGNS.
07:13:27PM THIS IS WHAT HE WAS TALK ABOUT UNACCEPTABLE THAT PEOPLE
07:13:31PM CAN'T SEE THAT.
07:13:32PM YOU ARE TALKING OF A MEETING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
07:13:35PM THEY JUST CAN'T SEE IT.
07:13:36PM MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT STAFF REPORT PACK
07:13:40PM FOR INFORMATION ANY TYPE OF REZONING AS IT RELATES TO
07:13:43PM ENLARGEMENT OF THE SIGNS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAYS FOR THEY OR
07:13:47PM TYPE OF COMMUNICATION FOR MEETINGS AND YOU BROUGHT CAN BACK
07:13:51PM IN A STAFF REPORT IF THEY CAN MARCH 2.
07:13:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
07:13:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME, A ONE-WEEK MOTION.
07:13:58PM MARCH 2.
07:13:59PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS IS FOR A SIGN.
07:14:03PM THEY WILL BE SURE TO BRING THAT BACK.
07:14:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, OKAY --
07:14:06PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GIVE THEM TWO WEEKS.
07:14:09PM WHAT DO YOU HAVE, MISS D.
07:14:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 16th.
07:14:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, MR. GUDES, YOUR MOTION JUST TO BE
07:14:21PM CLEAR GOES BEYOND ZONING.
07:14:25PM GOES TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS AS WELL?
07:14:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, BECAUSE -- BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY.
07:14:30PM THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS IT GOING ON.
07:14:33PM IT UPSETS ME WHEN I DRIVE BY IT.
07:14:35PM I SEE BEAUTIFUL COMMISSIONER'S FACE ON THE CORNER A BIG OL'
07:14:41PM SIGN WITH A DATE AND TIME IT IS EMBARRASSING THAT WE ARE NOT
07:14:44PM DOING THE SAME THING.
07:14:45PM EMBARRASSING.
07:14:47PM >> MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
07:14:50PM MIRANDA.
07:14:50PM ALL IN FAVOR.
07:14:51PM AYE.
07:14:52PM OPPOSED?
07:14:53PM MOTION PASSES.
07:14:54PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:14:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOTHING.
07:14:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITHOUT OBJECTION, MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
07:15:02PM FILE.
07:15:03PM BY MANISCALCO.
07:15:04PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:15:05PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:15:07PM ANY OPPOSED?
07:15:11PM WITHOUT OBJECTION --
07:15:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DON'T LOSE A QUORUM.
07:15:16PM NO QUORUM.
07:15:17PM QUICK.
07:15:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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