Tampa City Council
Thursday, March 9, 2023
5:01 p.m.
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05:03:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
05:03:24 ROLL CALL.
05:03:25 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
05:03:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
05:03:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:03:38 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:03:40 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:03:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:03:43 JUST IN TIME.
05:03:53 GO TO ROLL CALL AGAIN.
05:03:55 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
05:04:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
05:04:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:04:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
05:04:07 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:04:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:04:11 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:04:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:04:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE TWO WALK-ON ITEMS.
05:04:24 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. SMITH, WILL YOU JOIN ME UP HERE,
05:04:28 PLEASE, SIR.
05:04:29 MR. SMITH, PLEASE EXPLAIN TO THE AUDIENCE AND TO THE COUNCIL
05:04:34 AND VIEWERS WHAT THIS ALL ABOUT.
05:04:36 >> FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANKS -- MR. CHAIRMAN, I
05:04:39 WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AND MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL FOR
05:04:43 WELCOMING OUR ORATORICAL CONTEST.
05:04:47 IT IS A CONTEST ON THE U.S. CONSTITUTION THAT WE HAVE BEEN
05:04:51 RUNNING FOR THE PAST 75 YEARS.
05:04:53 IN IT, CONTESTANTS HAVE TO MEMORIZE FIVE SPEECHES WITHOUT
05:04:59 NOTES ON THE TOP OF THEIR HEAD ON DIFFERENT TOPICS.
05:05:02 AN EIGHT- TO TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION WHICH IS PREPARED THE
05:05:07 ORATION.
05:05:09 AND FOUR ASSIGNED TOPICS ASSIGNED BY THE AMERICAN LEGION ON
05:05:13 DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CONSTITUTION.
05:05:16 THEY ARE THE 6th AMENDMENT, 8th AMENDMENT, 10th AMENDMENT AND THE
05:05:22 14th AMENDMENT.
05:05:24 WE ONLY HAVE TWO CONTESTANTS AND THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES IN
05:05:28 THE COUNTY THIS YEAR SO OUR CONTESTANTS WENT TO THE STATE
05:05:37 FINALS.
05:05:38 WITH THAT, WE WILL GO TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:05:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE COMMANDER OF
05:05:44 POST 5, J.R. SCOGGINS FOR THE DILIGENT WORK TO BRING IT
05:05:49 WHERE IT IS TODAY.
05:05:51 TWO CONTESTANTS.
05:05:54 I WILL INTRODUCE HER FIRST, AND THE STORY THAT FINISHED
05:05:59 SECOND HAS ANOTHER STORY BECAUSE SHE BECAME THE FIRST ONE
05:06:03 AFTER THAT BECAUSE THE FIRST ONE COULDN'T MAKE IT TO THE
05:06:06 FINALS, AM I CORRECT?
05:06:08 THAT IS WHAT HE TOLD ME ANYWAY.
05:06:13 WITH THESE YOUNG INDIVIDUALS THAT MR. SMITH TALKED ABOUT, YOU
05:06:19 HAVE TO MEMORIZE A LOT OF THINGS IN THE CONSTITUTION, AND I
05:06:23 AM HONORED THAT SOMETIMES THEY DON'T TEACH CIVICS THE WAY IT
05:06:28 IS SUPPOSED TO BE TAUGHT.
05:06:29 CIVICS, THEY TOOK IT OUT FOR MANY YEARS.
05:06:32 I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS BACK OR NOT.
05:06:33 I HAVE TO CHECK.
05:06:34 THESE STUDENTS OF SCHOOL AGE AND YOUNG PEOPLE THAT DO THIS
05:06:38 BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEIR COUNTRY AND LOVE TO MAKE FLORIDA AND
05:06:41 TAMPA AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA A BETTER PLACE TO
05:06:43 LIVE.
05:06:43 SO ISABEL, PLEASE COME UP.
05:06:47 ISABEL, IT IS WITH GREAT PLEASURE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
05:06:52 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA PRESENT TO YOU IN COMMENDATION FOR
05:06:55 EARNING THE GOLD MEDAL AT THE 2022-2023 AMERICAN LEGION
05:07:01 ORATORICAL CONTEST AS WELL AS YOUR SINGULAR ACHIEVEMENT
05:07:07 BECOMING THE ONLY TRIPLE WINNER.
05:07:09 HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT.
05:07:11 I WAS NEVER EVEN A DOUBLE WINNER.
05:07:14 AND DEMONSTRATES YOUR KEEN INTEREST AND THE PRINCIPLES AND
05:07:22 VALUES SET FORTH IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF
05:07:24 AMERICA AND YOUR AWARENESS OF THE RESPONSIBILITY INCUMBENT
05:07:27 ON EACH CITIZEN TO EXERCISE THE PROPER RIGHTS.
05:07:30 WITH THIS, I'M SO HONORED ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,
05:07:35 MR. CITRO, MR. VIERA, MISS HURTAK AND MR. GUDES TO SAY
05:07:40 CONGRATULATIONS FOR THIS.
05:07:41 NUMBER ONE FINISHING WHAT YOU DO.
05:07:43 AND SAY A FEW WORDS.
05:07:45 YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION.
05:07:47 [APPLAUSE]
05:07:58 >> THANKS.
05:08:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COME BACK UP TO THE PODIUM.
05:08:03 RIGHT NEXT TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:08:04 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:08:05 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
05:08:07 GOOD TO SEE YOU AND GOOD TO SEE MY FRIENDS HERE TONIGHT AND
05:08:12 THANK YOU COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU TAKE SUCH A WONDERFUL
05:08:15 INTEREST IN THIS CONTEST.
05:08:16 AND IT IS GREAT.
05:08:17 IT IS GREAT TO SEE THE AMERICAN LEGION DO WHAT THE AMERICAN
05:08:21 LEGION DOES ESPECIALLY WITH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.
05:08:23 I ALWAYS SAY THAT OUR YOUNG PEOPLE GOT TO KNOW THE GREATNESS
05:08:28 OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY THAT IS HERE AND THANKS IN PART TO THE
05:08:34 MEN AND WOMEN INCH IN THE AMERICAN LEGION.
05:08:37 WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR COUNTRY.
05:08:40 AND WE GOT TO HEAR THAT STUFF SO WE CAN MAKE IT RIGHT.
05:08:43 LIKE A FORMER PRESIDENT SAID, WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA CAN
05:08:45 BE FIXED AND HEALED WITH WHAT IS RIGHT WITH MARK.
05:08:49 THINGS YOU STUDIED AND EXAMINED ON AND, ETC., FORM THE BASIS
05:08:55 WHAT IS RIGHT ABOUT OUR GREAT COUNTRY.
05:08:57 I WANTED TO SALUTE YOU FOR THAT AND THANK YOU.
05:09:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:09:02 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO THANK THE AMERICAN LEGION FOR
05:09:04 DOING THIS.
05:09:05 I WILL HAVE TO SAY I AM A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED THAT POST 111
05:09:12 DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY.
05:09:14 THAT IS OUR UNION.
05:09:16 MY HUSBAND IS A FORMER SPEECH PROFESSOR, AND DOING THESE TYPE
05:09:20 OF SPEECHES AND WORKING WITH FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT
05:09:23 SPEECHES WILL SEND YOU SO FAR IN LIFE.
05:09:26 BEING ABLE TO GET UP AND TALK IN FRONT OF PEOPLE.
05:09:29 BEING ABLE TO -- TO REMEMBER A SPEECH, REMEMBER POINTS YOU
05:09:34 HAVE WANT TO SHARE.
05:09:35 THIS WILL TAKE YOU SO VERY FAR.
05:09:37 YOU HAVE NO IDEA RIGHT NOW WHAT A GREAT SKILL THIS IS.
05:09:41 AND WHAT A GREAT HONOR THIS IS TO BE -- TO WIN THIS CONTEST.
05:09:46 CONGRATULATIONS.
05:09:48 AND BEST OF LUCK ON FUTURE ENDEAVORS, WHICH I PROMISE YOU,
05:09:53 THIS WILL COME IN HANDY.
05:09:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:09:56 >>ORLANDO GUDES: CONGRATULATIONS.
05:09:58 I LOVE WHEN YOUNG PEOPLE SUCCEED.
05:10:00 IT MAKES IT BETTER FOR US ALL.
05:10:02 IS THERE ANOTHER LEVEL?
05:10:04 A NATIONAL COMPETITION TOO?
05:10:06 >> A FIVE-TIERED EVENT.
05:10:08 WE ARE POST LEVEL, LEVEL ONE.
05:10:13 AND A DISTRICT FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
05:10:15 AND AREA THAT IS HILLSBOROUGH, PASCO AND PINELLAS AND THE
05:10:21 STATE LEVEL.
05:10:22 AND THEN THE NATIONAL CONTEST WILL GO ON NEXT MONTH.
05:10:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK AT THE
05:10:30 NATIONALS.
05:10:31 BEST OF LUCK.
05:10:32 THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
05:10:33 AND THANK YOU, COMMANDER.
05:10:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES AND I BELONG TO A FRATERNAL
05:10:39 ORGANIZATION EVERYTHING IS TAUGHT MOUTH TO EAR AND NOTHING
05:10:42 IS WRITTEN DOWN.
05:10:43 I CONGRATULATE YOU ON REMEMBERING YOUR SPEECHES, BUT MORE
05:10:48 IMPORTANT IS, ANYONE CAN RECITE WORDS, YOU HAVE LEARNED WHAT
05:10:52 THOSE WORDS MEAN AND WHAT THEY MEAN NOT ONLY TO OUR COUNTRY
05:10:56 BUT THEY MEAN TO YOU AND YOUR GENERATION.
05:10:59 AND I THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LEARN THE
05:11:03 SIGNIFICANCE OF THOSE WORDS.
05:11:05 AND WHEN THEY WERE WRITTEN BY OUR FOREFATHERS, THEY STILL
05:11:09 STAND TRUE TODAY.
05:11:10 THANK YOU.
05:11:10 CONGRATULATIONS.
05:11:11 GOD SPEED ON THE NEXT EVENT.
05:11:14 [APPLAUSE]
05:11:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PRESENTATION FOR THE SILVER WINNER
05:11:29 IS EMILY PEAK.
05:11:31 AND A STORY WHAT HAPPENED, FRANK SMITH AND MYSELF WERE TALKING
05:11:35 ABOUT IT, AND YOU CAN LISTEN TO IT BECAUSE IT IS A LITTLE
05:11:39 HEARTWARMING AND WITH GREAT PLEASURE PRESENT EMILY PEAK.
05:11:44 THE CITY OF TAMPA GIVE YOU THIS COMMENDATION FOR EARNING THE
05:11:49 SILVER MEDAL OF THE POST 5 AMERICAN LEGION ORATORICAL CONTEST
05:11:55 JANUARY 2023, AS WELL AS FOR YOUR OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION ON
05:11:59 THE DISTRICT CONTEST CULMINATING WITH THE PERFORMANCE OF THE
05:12:03 YOUNGEST CON TEST EARNING THE BRONZE OF MEDAL CONDUCTED IN
05:12:08 THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
05:12:09 LET ME STOP HERE.
05:12:10 BECAUSE WHEN THIS YOUNG LADY FINISHED FIRST AND THIS YOUNG
05:12:16 LADY FINISHED SECOND AND THIS YOUNG LADY WAS SUPPOSED TO
05:12:19 PARTICIPATE.
05:12:19 THIS YOUNG LADY COULDN'T MAKE IT AND THE ONE FINISHED SECOND
05:12:25 WENT TO STATE AND FINISHED THIRD.
05:12:27 >> THE YOUNGEST ONE IN THE COMPETITION.
05:12:30 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOUNGEST ONE -- SOMETIMES JUST TRYING AND
05:12:32 YOU DID YOUR BEST AND MORE LIKELY YOU ARE MUCH BETTER THAN
05:12:38 ME.
05:12:38 YOU ARE.
05:12:39 THESE THINGS -- AND ALL OF US IN THIS COUNTRY DESERVE
05:12:42 INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOURSELF IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:12:44 BOTH ARE OUTSTANDING CITIZENS AND I CAN TELL BY THE SMILE ON
05:12:47 YOUR FAILS -- FACE THAT YOU WILL BE SOMETHING REAL SOON,
05:12:56 REAL QUICK.
05:12:56 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
05:12:58 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OUR PLEASURE.
05:13:00 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ALL OF US TODAY.
05:13:03 IT REALLY MEANS A LOT.
05:13:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE WELCOME.
05:13:06 COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:13:07 >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, SALUTE YOU FOR THE HARD WORK YOU PUT
05:13:11 IN.
05:13:11 TAKES A LOT OF SPIRIT TO GET UP THERE AND SPEAK IN FRONT
05:13:16 PEOPLE WHATNOT.
05:13:17 YOUNG AGE, MIDDLE AGE OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
05:13:21 GOD BLESS YOU.
05:13:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:13:24 >>LYNN HURTAK: CONGRATULATIONS.
05:13:25 TO GO THIRD IN STATE IS VERY IMPRESSIVE LIKE I SAID BEFORE,
05:13:34 THESE ARE SKILLS YOU WILL USE FOREVER.
05:13:39 TO WRITE A SPEECH AND GET UP AND SHARE THAT.
05:13:42 CONGRATULATIONS.
05:13:43 YOU WILL REMEMBER THIS HONOR FOR A LONG TIME.
05:13:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, COUNCIL, VERY MUCH AND
05:13:50 APPRECIATE THE TIME.
05:13:51 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:13:54 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT TAKES A LOT TO GET IN FRONT OF PEOPLE
05:13:58 AND SPEAK.
05:13:59 SO, AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS.
05:14:00 >> THANK YOU.
05:14:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONGRATULATIONS FOR NOT ONLY SPEAKING THE
05:14:04 WORDS BUT LEARNING THEM.
05:14:06 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
05:14:07 >> THANK YOU.
05:14:07 [APPLAUSE]
05:14:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY, DO YOU NEED TWO SECONDS TO
05:14:24 EXPLAIN OUR --
05:14:25 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:14:27 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:14:27 GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:14:29 MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
05:14:31 FIRST OF ALL, LET ME BEGIN BY SAYING IF YOU HAD ANY EX-PARTE
05:14:40 COMMUNICATION IN REFERENCE TO TONIGHT'S HEARING DISCLOSE WHO
05:14:45 OF THAT COMMUNICATION OCCURRED AND SUM AND SUBSTANCE OF THAT
05:14:48 COMMUNICATION.
05:14:48 IF YOU CAN HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE WRITTEN
05:14:52 COMMUNICATIONS MADE AVAILABLE BY THE PUBLIC.
05:14:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:14:57 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:14:59 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:15:03 MOTION PASSES.
05:15:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO A MOTION TO WAIVE THE RULES TO
05:15:09 USE CMT, COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY.
05:15:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION AND SECOND.
05:15:14 MOTION PASSES.
05:15:15 >>BILL CARLSON: APOLOGIZE TO MY COLLEAGUES IN THE PUBLIC
05:15:20 THAT I AM LATE TONIGHT.
05:15:21 I DID WANT TO SAY ONE THING.
05:15:23 WHOEVER ON STAFF IS KEEPING TRACK WHEN I AM A FEW MINUTE LATE,
05:15:29 APPARENTLY 60% OF THE PEOPLE DON'T CARE.
05:15:32 YOU WASTED YOUR TIME.
05:15:33 THANK YOU.
05:15:34 >>LUIS VIERA: JUST FOR MY LEAVING EARLY.
05:15:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:15:48 >>LUIS VIERA: TO MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE.
05:15:51 I WILL BE LEAVING AND MY SON HAS A PLAY I HAVE TO NUMBER
05:16:00 ATTEND IN 45 MINUTES.
05:16:01 I SENT A MEMO.
05:16:02 THANK YOU FOR THAT.
05:16:04 >>ANNIE BARNES: GOOD EVENING, ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT
05:16:14 COORDINATION.
05:16:14 ARE YOU READY FOR THE AGENDA CLEANUP?
05:16:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, GREAT.
05:16:19 >>ANNIE BARNES: THE FIRST CLEANUP IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, FILE
05:16:26 NO. TA/CPA 22-29.
05:16:26 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO BE HEARD ON
05:16:31 APRIL 13, 2023 AT 5:01 P.M., AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS
05:16:36 HERE AND ABLE TO COMMENT ON THE CONTINUANCE, IF NEEDED.
05:16:39 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:16:48 TYLER HUDSON, ITEMS 2 AND 11 ARE A REZONING AND MAP
05:16:53 AMENDMENT WE ARE REQUESTING TO BE MOVED TO APRIL 13.
05:16:58 TO FINALIZE A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS.
05:17:00 THAT WILL BE OUR FIRST AND ONLY CONTINUANCE REQUEST.
05:17:03 THANKS.
05:17:04 >>ANNIE BARNES: I WAS GOING TO SEPARATELY ADDRESS ITEMS.
05:17:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S -- I AM GOING TO GO WITH THIS.
05:17:16 MR. HUDSON, CAN YOU COME BACK UP TO THE PODIUM.
05:17:19 MISS BARNES, SPEAKING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2 THE FIRST ONE
05:17:24 ASKING FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
05:17:25 >>ANNIE BARNES: CORRECT.
05:17:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 2 AND 11 WERE GOING TO BE HEARD
05:17:30 TOGETHER OR SEPARATE?
05:17:33 >> YOU GO.
05:17:34 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:17:38 THEY WERE SEPARATE AGENDA ITEMS SO I THINK WE SHOULD ADDRESS
05:17:42 ITEM NUMBER 2 FIRST.
05:17:43 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, EXACTLY.
05:17:45 FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-29 HAS BEEN ASKED TO BE CONTINUED UNTIL
05:17:55 APRIL 13, 2023.
05:17:57 ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE
05:18:01 ONLY?
05:18:02 THE CONTINUANCE ONLY?
05:18:06 WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:18:09 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO CONTINUE FILE NO. TA/CPA
05:18:16 22-29 UNTIL APRIL 13.
05:18:17 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:18:18 ANY OPPOSED?
05:18:21 MOTION CARRIED.
05:18:22 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 5:01 P.M.
05:18:25 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:18:28 ITEM NUMBER 11 IS FILE NO. REZ-23-15.
05:18:33 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 13, 2023
05:18:38 AT 5:01 P.M. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK OF THE
05:18:42 CONTINUANCE OF THE MEETING.
05:18:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: APPLICANT.
05:18:50 >> HELLO, AGAIN, TYLER HUD ON, 400 ASHLEY DRIVE WITH A
05:18:57 REQUEST TO CONTINUE IT TO APRIL 13.
05:18:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE TO SPEAK TO FILE NO. REZ-23-15 TO THE
05:19:03 CONTINUANCE ONLY.
05:19:04 WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:19:07 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:19:10 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:19:13 ANY OPPOSED?
05:19:14 MOTION CARRIES.
05:19:16 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:19:21 NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NO. REZ-22-69.
05:19:26 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO WITHDRAW THIS APPLICATION.
05:19:29 >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
05:19:31 >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
05:19:32 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO WITHDRAW
05:19:38 FILE NO. REZ-22-69, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:19:41 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:19:42 OPPOSED?
05:19:43 MOTION CARRIES.
05:19:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:19:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
05:19:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: FORGIVE ME FOR SAYING THAT.
05:19:50 BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC
05:19:53 HEARINGS TONIGHT.
05:19:54 MADAM CLERK?
05:19:55 I DON'T BELIEVE --
05:19:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVE ONE NOW.
05:19:58 MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
05:20:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:20:05 >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALL THESE ITEMS ARE CONTINUED PUBLIC
05:20:08 HEARINGS BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT, IS THAT CORRECT?
05:20:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CORRECT.
05:20:13 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:20:17 ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE NO. REZ-23-08, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING
05:20:25 IT TO BE HEARD DIRECTLY AFTER ONE TONIGHT.
05:20:28 THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT ITEM.
05:20:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER CHANGES TO OUR AGENDA?
05:20:34 >>ANNIE BARNES: NO.
05:20:35 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS THAT
05:20:45 COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO MOVE UP ITEM 8 TO FOLLOW NUMBER 3 --
05:20:51 EXCUSE ME, ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:20:53 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS PLANNING ON DOING THAT ANYWAY.
05:20:56 MOTION BY COUNCILMAN .
05:20:58 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:21:00 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:21:01 ANY OPPOSED?
05:21:03 MOTION CARRIES.
05:21:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
05:21:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL HEAR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE, FILE
05:21:15 NO. TA/CPA 22-26.
05:21:15 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, BEFORE I -- BEFORE THE STAFF
05:21:21 BEGINS AND THE PRESENTATION IS MADE, A REMINDER THAT ITEM
05:21:25 NUMBER 1 IS LIKE ITEM NUMBER 3 NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL AND
05:21:30 LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.
05:21:32 THANK YOU.
05:21:32 >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:21:40 I AM PRESENTING ON TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE AMENDMENT 22-26.
05:21:45 CAN YOU SEE THAT?
05:21:51 OKAY.
05:21:51 IT IS LOCATED 808 N. ARMENIA AVENUE AND 2402 WEST STATE
05:21:58 STREET.
05:21:58 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I.T., CAN WE HAVE THAT UP ON OUR MONITORS,
05:22:03 PLEASE.
05:22:03 THANK YOU.
05:22:04 THANK YOU.
05:22:05 >>EMILY PHELAN: PRIVATELY INITIATED.
05:22:11 SMALL SCALE.
05:22:14 0.26 ACRES AND REQUEST TO GO FROM RESIDENTIAL-20 TO
05:22:18 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 24.
05:22:20 THIS IS THE SITE ON THE GENERAL LOCATION MAP LOCATED HERE.
05:22:27 IT IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
05:22:29 THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
05:22:32 AND THE ARMORY GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:22:35 THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE SURROUNDING
05:22:39 AREA.
05:22:39 YOU CAN SEE THE SITE OUTLINED HERE AND HIGHLIGHTED IN
05:22:43 YELLOW.
05:22:43 AND AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE AND WEST
05:22:48 STATE STREET.
05:22:48 ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF WEST ARMENIA AVENUE, THE
05:22:53 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IS A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL
05:22:56 USES AND TO THE WEST OF NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IS
05:22:59 PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL USES.
05:23:02 THIS IS THE BOUNDARY APARTMENTS RIGHT HERE.
05:23:06 AND DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH IS AN OFFICE USE.
05:23:12 ONE BLOCK SOUTH IS THE VILA BROTHERS PARK.
05:23:16 AND THIS PARCEL RIGHT HERE IS OWNED BY THE FLORIDA ARMORY
05:23:21 BOARD.
05:23:22 AND TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE SITE ARE SINGLE FAMILY
05:23:26 USES.
05:23:27 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE ARMENIA AVENUE LOOKING WEST.
05:23:31 THIS IS FROM THE SUBJECT SITE ON WEST STATE STREET LOOKING
05:23:40 SOUTH.
05:23:41 THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON WEST STATE STREET.
05:23:43 SUBJECT SITE IS TO THE LEFT.
05:23:46 THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON WEST STATE STREET.
05:23:51 THE SUBJECT SITE IS TO THE RIGHT NORTH ON NORTH ARMENIA ON
05:24:02 WEST STREET AND NORTH ARMENIA.
05:24:04 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES ON
05:24:08 EAST STATE STREET.
05:24:09 THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
05:24:14 THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE AND REPRESENTED BY THE
05:24:18 RESIDENTIAL-20 DESIGNATION.
05:24:20 TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS A COMMERCIAL 35
05:24:24 DISTRICT.
05:24:25 TO THE SOUTHEAST IS THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
05:24:29 TO THE SOUTH HERE IS RECOGNIZE RESIDENTIAL OPEN SPACE.
05:24:32 AND YOU CAN SEE TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS
05:24:35 ALSO RESIDENTIAL-20.
05:24:38 THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE AND REPRESENTED BY THE
05:24:43 PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 24 DESIGNATION.
05:24:47 HERE ARE THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE
05:24:56 DESIGNATION.
05:24:57 CURRENTLY UNDER THE R-20, THE SITE CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR
05:25:02 FIVE DWELLING UNITS OR 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL
05:25:06 USES IF THE SUBJECT SITE MEETS LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
05:25:10 ON THE POTENTIAL, IT COULD GO UP TO SIX UNITS AND SLIGHTLY
05:25:15 OVER 11,000 SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL
05:25:18 USES.
05:25:19 THIS SITE COULD USE F.A.R. TO DEVELOP RESIDENTIAL OR
05:25:24 NONRESIDENTIAL USES AND THE REQUEST WILL ALLOW NEIGHBORHOOD
05:25:28 SERVING COMMERCIAL USES BY RIGHT WITHOUT REQUIRING THE SITE
05:25:31 TO MEET LOCATIONAL CRITERIA AND ADDITIONALLY THE REQUEST
05:25:36 WILL INTRODUCE THE LIMITED USE OF GENERAL USES ON THE SITE.
05:25:40 THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH MULTIPLE
05:25:44 ASPECTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:25:46 THE REQUEST WILL PROMOTE A RANGE OF USES AND MIXED-USE
05:25:52 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE URBAN VILLAGES AND SUSTAIN
05:25:56 NEIGHBORHOODS AND ENCOURAGE THE ECONOMIC AND SOCIAL HEALTH
05:26:00 OF THE CITY AND PROMOTE DENSITIES AND MIXES THAT SUPPORT
05:26:05 WALKING, TRANSIT, RESIDENTIAL SERVICES AND AMENITIES AND
05:26:09 THE REQUEST WILL ALSO ASSURE THAT AN ADDITIONAL SUPPLY OF
05:26:13 HOUSING IS AVAIL TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S FUTURE AND
05:26:17 PRESENT POPULATIONS AND FINALLY CONSISTENT WITH DIRECTING
05:26:20 THE CITY'S GREATEST SHARE OF GROWTH TO THE CITY'S URBAN
05:26:24 VILLAGES.
05:26:25 AND WITH THAT IN MIND, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS
05:26:28 THAT THE PROPOSED MAP AMENDMENT BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE
05:26:31 GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES OF THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
05:26:36 PLAN.
05:26:36 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
05:26:39 ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
05:26:47 THANK YOU.
05:26:47 >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS PRESIDENT OF COUNCIL.
05:26:51 MY NAME IS MARK BENTLEY.
05:26:53 BEFORE I CONTINUE, DO WE NEED TO GET SWORN IN ON THESE
05:26:58 LEGISLATIVE MATTER?
05:27:00 NO?
05:27:00 OKAY, I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
05:27:02 I'M HERE REPRESENTING RABBI MENDY TO CHANGE MIXED USE
05:27:09 DESIGNATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
05:27:11 AS YOU HEARD, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO
05:27:15 BE COMPARATIVE WITH THE GOALS, POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES OF
05:27:20 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND HAD A BROAD SPECTRUM.
05:27:23 YOUR LONG-RANGE PLANNING STAFF, THE STAFF OF THE PLANNING
05:27:27 COMMISSION, WERE UNANIMOUS.
05:27:29 RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND COMMUNITY
05:27:32 SUPPORT.
05:27:32 I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE SUPPORTERS ARE HERE IN ATTENDANCE
05:27:36 INTEND TO SUPPORT COUNCIL THIS EVENING.
05:27:39 LETTERS OF SUPPORT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO COUNCIL AND THOSE
05:27:42 ARE ON THE RECORD AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
05:27:45 I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO MR. RYE MAN
05:27:48 IN MANASEE OUR PLANNER AND AFTER RYAN, THE RABBI WOULD
05:27:54 APPRECIATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COUNCIL AND SPEAK A
05:27:57 LITTLE BIT OF HIS VISION FOR THE PROJECT.
05:27:59 THANK YOU.
05:28:00 RYAN?
05:28:09 >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, RYAN MANASEE WITH
05:28:15 POPE
05:28:18 THANK THE STAFF FOR THEIR PRESENTATION ON THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
05:28:20 WE ARE HERE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT FOR THE EXISTING
05:28:23 RESIDENTIAL-20 TO PROPOSED MIXED USE-24 CATEGORY FOR THE
05:28:27 PROPERTY LOCATED 8508 NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE AND 2402 WEST
05:28:33 STATE STREET.
05:28:33 THE SITE IS AROUND.27 ACRES AND 11,325 SQUARE FEET AND ZONED
05:28:40 AS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.
05:28:43 RUNNING CONCURRENT IS PLACE FOR RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY AND
05:28:48 DAY CARE USE THAT YOU WILL HEAR ON THE NEXT ITEM.
05:28:50 THE PLAN AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU WOULD ALLOW MY CLIENT OR OUR
05:28:55 CLIENT THROUGH A PD TO INCREASE FLOOR AREA FOR RELIGIOUS
05:29:00 ASSEMBLY AND DAY CARE USE.
05:29:01 THESE RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USES ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE
05:29:05 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
05:29:09 HISTORY OF THE OF MIXED-USE CATEGORY, A RELATIVELY NEW
05:29:12 CATEGORY AS FAR AS THE PLAN AND SEEING IT BEFORE YOU BUT
05:29:15 INTENDED FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED IN URBAN VILLAGES SUCH AS
05:29:19 THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:29:21 THIS CATEGORY WAS CREATED FOR NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USES TO BE
05:29:24 LOCATED WITHIN THESE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:29:28 NOW THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE SUBJECT AREA WHICH IS OUTLINED IN
05:29:39 YELLOW.
05:29:40 AND THE BLUE-SHADED AREA SIGNIFIES COMMERCIAL OR
05:29:44 INSTITUTIONAL USES ALONG WITH LARGE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
05:29:47 DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT
05:29:51 SITE.
05:29:51 OUR CLIENT WISHES TO EXPAND THEIR ALREADY APPROVED PD AND
05:29:56 HAVE A DAY CARE TO PROVIDE RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USES.
05:30:02 I WILL LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE APPROVING OF THIS PLAN
05:30:11 AMENDMENT WILL PROVIDE FOR TRANSITION FROM THE COMMERCIAL
05:30:15 USE 35 WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE RED TO THE RESIDENTIAL-20
05:30:18 CATEGORY WHICH IS -- WHICH WOULD BE TO THE WEST CURRENTLY
05:30:24 THEY ABUT EACH OTHER IN EXISTENCE.
05:30:26 OUR REQUEST WITH THE RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USES HAVE A
05:30:32 TRANSITION TO THE RM-16 ZONING DISTRICT TO THE WEST.
05:30:36 ARMENIA AVENUE IS AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY AND TRANSIT EMPHASIS
05:30:41 CORRIDOR.
05:30:41 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES ARMENIA AVENUE AS A
05:30:44 CORRIDOR SUITABLE WITH REDEVELOPMENT WHICH IS IN LINE WITH
05:30:47 OUR REQUEST.
05:30:48 NOW ON THIS SLIDE, THE BLUE SHADED AREA SIGNIFICANCE ANY
05:30:56 PHASE PUBLIC, QUASI-PUBLIC AND INSTITUTIONAL LAND USES.
05:30:59 A PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USE WHICH IS IN LINE WITH OUR
05:31:04 PROPOSED USE.
05:31:05 THIS TPD OF USE IS ROOTED TO THE WEST WELL INTO THE
05:31:08 RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:31:09 OUR REQUEST IS ADJACENT TO THE ARTERIAL ROADWAY THAT
05:31:12 SUPPORTS THIS TYPE OF FUTURE LAND USE REQUEST AND COMPARABLE
05:31:16 AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT ALONG ARMENIA
05:31:19 AVENUE.
05:31:19 NOW THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOU A MIX OF ZONING DISTRICTS WITHIN
05:31:26 THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
05:31:27 THE AREA OUTLINED IN YELLOW IS THE SUBJECT SITE, AND I AM
05:31:32 TRYING TO DEMONSTRATE USE ACE LOUD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
05:31:35 MIXED-USE CATEGORY THAT CAN AND MAY EXIST ALREADY IN THE
05:31:38 SURROUNDING ZONING DISTRICTS.
05:31:39 THIS REQUEST FURTHER SUPPORTS THE TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL USES
05:31:43 WE ARE PROPOSING.
05:31:44 I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE RABBI MENDY HERE TO BRIEFLY
05:31:50 DISCUSS HIS VISION, AND THEN I WILL COME BACK TO GIVE MY
05:31:54 PRESENTATION.
05:31:55 >> CONCERNING THE RABBI, HE INTENDS TO SPEAK BUT THAT IS ON
05:32:00 THE NEXT ITEM.
05:32:01 IF YOU GET INTO SPECIFICS THAT GETS -- HE WILL HAVE HIS
05:32:04 OPPORTUNITY THEN, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
05:32:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONERS?
05:32:10 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
05:32:14 ITEM NUMBER 1, FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-26.
05:32:20 IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK, PLEASE FORM A LINE ON MY LEFT.
05:32:28 YOUR RIGHT.
05:32:28 AND COME UP ONE AT A TIME.
05:32:30 PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
05:32:32 REMEMBER, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
05:32:33 >> I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
05:32:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU DON'T NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
05:32:40 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, BEFORE YOU BEGIN.
05:32:42 THERE ARE TWO -- TWO SEPARATE ISSUES, ONE WHICH IS
05:32:51 THE LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT.
05:32:53 THAT IS NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL.
05:32:56 IF THAT MOVES FORWARD, ITEM NUMBER 8 WILL BE A SEPARATE
05:33:01 REZONING AND TWO DIFFERENT ISSUES AND KEEP THAT IN MIND.
05:33:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:33:09 >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOR THE -- FOR TRANSPARENCY, I HAD
05:33:16 RABBI MENDY SPEAK IN THE INVOCATION.
05:33:20 I DIDN'T KNOW HE HAD AN ITEM -- IF THAT IS A CONFLICT, I
05:33:24 WILL STEP OUT BUT I HAD NO CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM IN ANY WAY
05:33:27 ABOUT THE SUBJECT.
05:33:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS FOR PURPOSES OF
05:33:32 THE RECORD.
05:33:32 LET ME ASK YOU THIS AND REMIND THE COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY.
05:33:36 WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.
05:33:39 WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS A LAND USE ISSUE.
05:33:41 AND WHO IS REQUESTING IT FRANKLY IS NOT RELEVANT TO THE
05:33:46 MATTER.
05:33:47 YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PARAMETERS AND THE CRITERIA IN ORDER
05:33:52 FOR WHICH YOU TO BASE YOUR DECISION.
05:33:54 THAT BEING THE CASE AND THE FACT THAT RABBI MENDY I UNDERSTAND
05:33:58 DID APPEAR BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID AND MAY BE KNOWN TO
05:34:03 YOU, ANYBODY WHO BELIEVES THAT RELATIONSHIP WOULD BE ABLE TO
05:34:07 KEEP YOU FROM BEING FAIR AND IMPARTIAL?
05:34:10 IF THERE IS ANYBODY WHO WOULD HAVE TROUBLE WITH THAT AND NOT
05:34:14 ABLE TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND BASE YOUR DECISION SOLELY
05:34:19 ON THE RECORD, IF YOU WOULD JUST SPEAK NOW.
05:34:22 OTHERWISE, WE WILL TAKE THAT AS EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE
05:34:26 WITH THAT.
05:34:26 ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO SAY ANYTHING?
05:34:31 THANK YOU FOR THE RECORD.
05:34:32 AND I BELIEVE THAT WOULD -- MR. BENTLEY, DID YOU WANT TO
05:34:36 ADDRESS ANYTHING OR ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THAT?
05:34:39 >> I AM FINE, MR. SHELBY.
05:34:41 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
05:34:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS SANCHEZ.
05:34:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THERE IS A SPEAKER WAIVER
05:35:20 FORM.
05:35:21 I SEE -- I WILL SEE, SEE SIX NAMES ON THEM.
05:35:24 IF YOU WERE PRESENT, PLEASE DO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
05:35:27 DEBBIE ZALERMAN.
05:35:30 THANK YOU.
05:35:30 ADRIAN LARIME.
05:35:33 DID I SAY THAT CORRECTLY.
05:35:36 OKAY, THANK YOU.
05:35:36 JEROME ADEBEC -- ADCOCK, THANK YOU.
05:35:43 JANICE COX.
05:35:45 THANK YOU.
05:35:45 SHARON GENARTE.
05:35:49 AND LANA D. GONZALEZ.
05:35:53 THAT IS SIX MINUTES PLUS THREE FOR THE SPEAKER AND TOTAL OF
05:35:57 NINE.
05:35:58 >> YOU CAN RELAX, I DON'T THINK I WILL USE THAT TIME, BUT I
05:36:01 WANTED TO JUST PUT IT IN THERE.
05:36:03 GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
05:36:05 SANDY DIEGO SANCHEZ.
05:36:11 THIS IS WAY ABOVE MY PAY GRADE.
05:36:13 SORT OF LIKE DAVID AND GOLIATH, BUT I'M HERE TO TRY TO
05:36:17 CONVINCE YOU THAT THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE 20240
05:36:20 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT 808 NORTH ARMENIA AND 2402 WEST STATE
05:36:26 STREET FROM R-20 TO NEIGHBORHOOD USE AND MU-IS DETRIMENTAL
05:36:33 TO THE ARMORY GARDENS COMMUNITY.
05:36:35 GOING TO BE A DETRIMENT.
05:36:37 THIS IS A MASSIVE BUILDING THAT THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO
05:36:40 SQUEEZE INTO THE EXISTING AREA.
05:36:42 THERE ARE NO OTHER BUILDINGS WITH THIS LARGE OF FOOTPRINTS
05:36:46 ON THE BEST SIDE OF ARMENIA.
05:36:48 THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOTHING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE
05:36:50 APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT WILL ONLY EXACERBATE THE SERIOUS
05:36:55 ISSUES NOT INCLUDED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN --
05:36:58 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY, IF YOU CAN.
05:36:59 THANK YOU.
05:37:00 MISS SANCHEZ, WITH REGARD TO THE MASS AND SCALE AND THE SIZE
05:37:08 OF THE PROPERTY.
05:37:08 THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE WITH REGARD TO THE
05:37:11 ZONING.
05:37:11 THIS WILL BE THE FUTURE LAND USE.
05:37:13 IF YOU CAN FOCUS PERHAPS ON -- ON THE CHANGES AS TO WHAT
05:37:19 SHOULD BE THERE -- EXCUSE ME.
05:37:21 WHAT IS THERE VERSUS WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
05:37:24 >> SORRY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU.
05:37:28 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I -- RESPECTFULLY.
05:37:34 IF -- MISS WELLS, DO YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY SOMETHING FOR
05:37:40 THE RECORD AND IF YOU DON'T THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO
05:37:44 SAY SOMETHING, TO BE ABLE TO INFORM COUNCIL SO THEY WILL --
05:37:47 FOR THE RECORD, TO BE ABLE TO ASSESS WHAT IS NEEDED HE.
05:37:53 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
05:37:55 VERY GENERALLY WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT, COUNCIL
05:37:58 IS LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENCES IN USES THAT WOULD BE
05:38:02 PERMITTED BY THE EXISTING FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND
05:38:07 PROPOSED LAND USE DESIGNATION.
05:38:10 I WILL WAIT UNTIL MISS SANCHEZ CAN HEAR BECAUSE I AM
05:38:14 EXPLAINING THIS FOR HER BENEFIT AS WELL.
05:38:16 I WILL START AGAIN.
05:38:17 THE PURPOSE OF LOOKING AT THESE MAP AMENDMENTS IS TO
05:38:21 CONSIDER -- COUNCIL'S ROLE IS TO CONSIDER THE USES AND
05:38:27 DENSITY OR INTENSITY ALLOWED BY THE CURRENT LAND USE
05:38:31 DESIGNATION VERSUS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED WE ALWAYS COUNSEL
05:38:40 CITY COUNCIL FOR THE MAXIMUM DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL BY
05:38:44 THE MMU-24 DESIGNATION.
05:38:46 WHAT IS THE F.A.R. OF THAT DESIGNATION VERSUS THE
05:38:53 CURRENT F.A.R.
05:38:53 THE USES UNDER THE NMU-24 THAT CURRENTLY ARE NOT PERMITTED
05:39:00 AND CONSIDER THAT MAXIMUM POTENTIAL AND THOSE USES IN
05:39:04 COMPARISON TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE
05:39:06 COMPATIBILITY.
05:39:06 SO A LOT OF MUCH THOSE ITEMS ADDRESSED IN THE PLANNING
05:39:15 COMMISSION REPORT OF THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
05:39:21 AND IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ADDRESS COUNCIL, WE ASK THEM TO
05:39:26 FOCUS ON THE MORE CONCEPTUAL DISCUSSIONS WITH A MAP
05:39:29 AMENDMENT VERSUS WHAT COULD BE SPECIFICALLY ANTICIPATE
05:39:38 COUNTY REZONING SINCE THE REZONING HAS NOT BEEN OPENED.
05:39:41 I HOPE THAT IS HELPFUL.
05:39:43 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO STATE FOR A RECORD THAT WE AS A
05:39:47 COUNCIL HAVE TALKED OVER AND OVER AGAIN ABOUT SPLITTING THE
05:39:51 COMPREHENSIVE PLANS AND THE REZONINGS BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HAS
05:39:55 A DIFFICULT TIME UNDERSTANDING THEM AND IT -- IT CONTAINS.
05:40:00 IT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO LOOK AT FUTURE LAND USE AS A FUTURE
05:40:11 LAND USE AND I WILL ASK STAFF TO CONSIDER SPLITTING THEM UP
05:40:15 SO WE ARE NOT HEARING IT AGAIN ON THE SAME NIGHT.
05:40:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS SANCHEZ, YOUR SIX MINUTES STARTS NOW --
05:40:26 NINE MINUTES.
05:40:26 >> NINE MINUTES.
05:40:28 >> AS I SAID, THIS IS WAY ABOVE MY PAY GRADE.
05:40:33 AND I FEEL LIKE DAVID AND GOLIATH.
05:40:37 SURF PRESENTED BY ONE SIDE OF THE PICTURE.
05:40:48 IF IT IS THE COMP PLAN, IT WOULD ALL BE ROSES.
05:40:51 NO THE REALITY OF THIS SITUATION.
05:40:53 THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WILL GIVE THE APPLICANT THE ABILITY TO
05:40:56 INCREASE THEIR SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM 5662 SQUARE FEET OF
05:41:03 NONRESIDENTIAL USES TO 121,325 SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL
05:41:10 USES OR RESIDENTIAL USES.
05:41:15 THAT IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT LINE THERE.
05:41:18 BECAUSE WHAT IT DOES IS IT ATTRACTS MORE PEOPLE TO COME INTO
05:41:24 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:41:27 THIS PD THAT WANTS TO BE TURNED INTO A NMU-24 WILL CAUSE IT
05:41:42 TO ATTRACT PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR HIGH DENSITY
05:41:45 CONSTRUCTION AND HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY HOUSING THIS IS A
05:41:57 RED FLAG NOR US.
05:41:58 CITING THIS PRECEDENT WILL BE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS
05:42:01 TRYING TO HANG ON TO ONE-STORY SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES.
05:42:05 AM I ALLOWED TO SAY THAT?
05:42:07 THAT USED TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
05:42:08 WE ARE ACTUALLY SEEING AN INCREASE IN ONE-STORY
05:42:13 SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES BEING REFURBISHED.
05:42:15 IF THIS AMENDMENT PASSES, IT WILL SET A PRECEDENT TO BE USED
05:42:19 ON THE WEST SIDE OF ARMENIA AND ONLY ATTRACT IRRESPONSIBLE
05:42:22 GROWTH.
05:42:23 THE APPLICANT FOR THE COMP CHANGES -- AND I DON'T KNOW IF I
05:42:29 CAN SAY THIS -- APPEARS TO HAVE A LOVING AND CARING
05:42:32 CONGREGATION WITH STRONG SOCIAL GROUPS OF ALL AGES AND
05:42:36 EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM THAT APPEARS TO BE A LOVING AND CARING
05:42:40 COMMUNITY.
05:42:40 WE WOULD LOVE TO WELCOME THEM INTO ARMORY GARDENS.
05:42:44 BUT SOMETHING I CAN'T SAY -- BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP OUR
05:42:50 COMMUNITY SAFE.
05:42:53 UNCONTROLLED HIGH DENSITY WILL JEOPARDIZE THE SAFETY OF OUR
05:42:58 NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:42:58 UP CLOSE IN OUR MIND KEEPING THE COMMUNITY AND SURROUNDING
05:43:01 COMMUNITY SAFE.
05:43:02 THE UNCONTROLLED DENSITY IF THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WILL OFFER
05:43:06 WILL BE A DETRIMENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ADD TO THE
05:43:10 SERIOUS CONDITION THAT ALREADY EXISTS.
05:43:13 WE HOPED THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE COME FORWARD AND
05:43:15 TALKED TO US AND TRY TO UNDERSTAND OUR POSITION.
05:43:18 NEITHER THE APPLICANT NOR HIS ATTORNEYS MADE ANY ATTEMPT TO
05:43:22 CONTACT US.
05:43:24 AND EVEN THOUGH THAT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT, WHICH YOU WOULD
05:43:27 THINK THAT SOMEONE WHO THINKS THEY ARE GOING TO BRING
05:43:30 WONDERFUL THINGS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD WANT TO TELL --
05:43:32 LET US KNOW ABOUT THOSE WONDERFUL THINGS.
05:43:34 BY THE WAY, I DID MEET WITH RABBI DABROWSKI FOR 20 MINUTES
05:43:40 ON FEBRUARY 28 FOR 20 MINUTES.
05:43:43 AND ONLY PAUSE THE LAND USE STAFF ENCOURAGED HIM TO CALL
05:43:48 OTHERWISE WE WOULD NOT HAVE HEARD FROM HIM.
05:43:50 TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY AND THE OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND US
05:43:53 THAT ARE TRYING TO KEEP THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE AGAINST AN
05:43:56 ONSLAUGHT OF.
05:43:59 IRRESPONSIBLE GROWTH.
05:44:01 I ASK YOU TO DENY THIS.
05:44:02 I HAVE A SMALL PRESENTATION.
05:44:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU -- YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON THE SCREEN.
05:44:15 DO YOU NEED TO ADVANCE THAT IN ANY WAY?
05:44:30 >> NO, NO.
05:44:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DON'T WANT TO SHOW THAT.
05:44:33 WHAT GOES ON THE SCREEN.
05:44:34 NUMBER 8, IF WE CAN TAKE THAT OFF, PLEASE.
05:44:37 THANK YOU.
05:44:37 SO -- IF CCTV CAN PUT WHAT IS ON THE OVERHEAD, PLEASE.
05:44:43 OKAY, NOW IT'S AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO.
05:44:55 >> I APOLOGIZE, THESE ARE NOT IN ORDER OF THE ONES YOU HAVE
05:45:00 BECAUSE I REPORTED THEM COMING IN.
05:45:02 BUT THERE ARE ONLY A FEW.
05:45:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. BENSON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ASSIST.
05:45:08 IS IT UP -- THERE WE GO.
05:45:10 >> AFTER LOOKING AT THE SIX -- IT ONLY LOOKS LIKE I CAN SHOW
05:45:55 YOU TWO OR THREE AND THEY WILL BE EASY TO FIND.
05:45:58 THIS ONE IS JUST ARMORY GARDENS.
05:46:01 BUT I WANT TO PRESENTATION YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS -- WHAT WE
05:46:09 WILL CONTINUE TO BE USING.
05:46:10 PLEASE NOTICE TO THE WEST OF ARMENIA, THAT IS WHERE THE
05:46:15 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS LOCATED.
05:46:16 THERE ARE NO MENUS ON THE -- THERE ARE NO NMUs ON THE EAST
05:46:23 SIDE.
05:46:23 THE WEST SIDE OF ARMENIA.
05:46:26 MOST OF THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
05:46:28 I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
05:46:30 SEE WHAT ELSE CAN I SHOW YOU.
05:46:35 THIS IS ONE OF THE SLIDES THAT THEY USED.
05:46:40 THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES.
05:46:43 I WILL TAKE YOU TO THE SECOND ONE, WHICH SAYS URBAN VILLAGES
05:46:52 CONTAIN, SINGLE-FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY, RESIDENTIAL,
05:46:57 NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING COMMERCIAL SCHOOLS, PARKS.
05:46:59 MASS TRANSIT AND SAFE WALKABLE PATHWAYS TO CONNECT PEOPLE TO
05:47:04 ALL THESE VILLAGES.
05:47:06 THESE DO NOT EXIST IN ARMORY GARDENS.
05:47:09 WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS.
05:47:10 ENSURE THAT URBAN VILLAGES ARE DESIGNED FOR PEDESTRIAN
05:47:15 TRAFFIC AND CITY WIDE TRANSIT.
05:47:17 AGAIN, NO SIDEWALKS.
05:47:19 I ASK YOU AGAIN -- SORRY, I HAD TO LIMIT MY PRESENTATION TO
05:47:26 THINGS THAT I COULD OR COULD NOT SAY, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE
05:47:32 IS, THIS JEOPARDIZES OUR COMMUNITY TREMENDOUSLY, AND I ALSO
05:47:36 SAID WE WOULD LOVE TO WELCOME RABBI DABROWSKI AND ALL OF HIS
05:47:43 CONGREGATION, BUT STILL TOO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
05:47:47 UNANSWERED.
05:47:48 THANK YOU.
05:47:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:47:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UP KNOW YOU HAD A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM
05:47:56 AND YOU ARE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS.
05:47:58 JUST A SUGGESTION BEFORE WE CONTINUE.
05:48:00 IN THE YOU KNOW, IN CASES -- IF WERE TO BE DENIED AND HEADS
05:48:08 THAT WAY OR WHATEVER, I WOULD HATE TO SEE ANYBODY GET YOU
05:48:12 WERE IN THE THIS SITUATION, MEANING YOU HAVE MENTIONED THEY
05:48:14 HAD NOT REACHED OUT TO YOU AND TALKED TO YOU.
05:48:16 BEFORE WE PROCEED, WOULD THE PETITIONER CONSIDER CONTINUING
05:48:23 THIS TO COMMUNICATE BETTER.
05:48:25 A DENIAL IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
05:48:27 IT IS VERY -- TAKES A LOT OF TIME, WHATEVER.
05:48:30 YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE HEAD THIS ROUTE, IF WE WERE TO HEAD THE
05:48:34 ROUTE, BETTER COMMUNICATION NEEDS TO BE HAD.
05:48:38 JUST A THOUGHT.
05:48:39 >> IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE FOR ARMORY GARDENS TOO.
05:48:43 WHAT I CAN'T SAY TO YOU IS, FOR EXAMPLE, BECAUSE OF HEAVY
05:48:47 TRAFFIC IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND -- AND THE SPEEDING OF OUR
05:48:50 NEIGHBORS, WE HAD CHILDREN WHO HAVE BEEN HIT.
05:48:52 WE HAD BICYCLISTS THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED.
05:48:56 ALL HAVE TO DO WITH MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC COME INTO THE
05:49:00 NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:49:00 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT.
05:49:03 LIKE I SAID, IF WE LIVE BY THE -- BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
05:49:07 ALL WOULD BE ROSES.
05:49:08 THAT IS NOT THE REALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY.
05:49:13 ANYTHING ELSE?
05:49:21 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO
05:49:25 SPEAK TO THE PETITION.
05:49:30 >> MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
05:49:33 I DO NOT LIVE CLOSE TO THIS PROPERTY.
05:49:34 BUT I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE ASKED FOR THE COMP PLAN TO
05:49:39 BE UNPAIRED WITH THE REZONING AND THIS IS A VERY GOOD
05:49:42 EXAMPLE AS TO WHY.
05:49:43 I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO RECONSIDER.
05:49:45 THIS IS A GOOD TIME FOR THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER THIS WHOLE
05:49:50 PROCESS OF COMP PLAN CHANGES.
05:49:53 WE EMPLOY SOME VERY, VERY SMART FOLKS IN THIS CITY
05:49:59 WHO DO LAND USE AND PLANNING FOR THE CITY.
05:50:07 WE HAVE A FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
05:50:10 WHY DO PEOPLE CONTINUE TO PURCHASE PROPERTY AND DO THINGS
05:50:12 THAT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY.
05:50:15 I DON'T UNDERSTAND 9 CONCEPT.
05:50:18 MANY OTHER PLACES IN THE STATE, IN THE COUNTRY, IF YOU BUY A
05:50:21 PEELS OF AND WILL, THAT IS WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH IT WHEN YOU
05:50:24 BUY IT.
05:50:24 NOT LATER ON.
05:50:25 WHY ARE WE PAYING STEVEN BENSON AND PAYING MELISSA AND I AM
05:50:32 FORGETTING SOMEBODY.
05:50:33 WHY ARE WE PAYING THESE PEOPLE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO WRITE
05:50:37 OURSELVES A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, A NEW ONE, WHEN EVERY TIME
05:50:40 WE TURN AROUND, EVERY TOM, DICK AND HARRY CAN COME IN HERE
05:50:45 AND SAY, OH, I DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU SAID I CAN DO WITH THIS
05:50:49 PROPERTY.
05:50:50 IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
05:50:51 AND I WOULD LIKE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE WHO SPEAKS ABOUT THIS
05:50:54 PARTICULAR SITUATION TO ADDRESS WHERE THEY LIVE CITY OF
05:51:00 ADMITTED I LIVE NEXT TO IT.
05:51:04 THEY SAY THEY HAVE RECEIVED LOTS AND LOTS OF POSITIVE
05:51:08 COMMENTS.
05:51:08 ARE THEY FROM THE NEIGHBOR?
05:51:10 THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
05:51:12 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO
05:51:14 SPEAK TO THIS?
05:51:16 IS THERE ANYBODY ONLINE?
05:51:18 REBUTTAL?
05:51:26 >> THANK YOU.
05:51:27 CONCERNING THIS ISSUE OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
05:51:30 WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS SENT A LETTER TO MISS SANCHEZ'S
05:51:34 ORGANIZATION AND DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY RESPONSE.
05:51:35 THEN WE WERE CONTACTED BY STAFF THAT MISS SANCHEZ HAD
05:51:40 APPROACHED STAFF AND HAD SOME CONCERNS.
05:51:42 THE RABBI IMMEDIATELY CONTACTED HER THAT VERY DAY AND SAT
05:51:47 DOWN WITH HER, I BELIEVE, MAYBE THE NEXT DAY.
05:51:50 HE IS GOING TO SPEAK IN A SECOND.
05:51:51 MISS SANCHEZ IS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE, SOPHISTICATED AND
05:51:56 EXPERIENCED ABOUT THE PROCESS.
05:51:57 PROBABLY KNOWS MORE ABOUT IT THAN A LOT OF THESE LAND USE
05:52:01 LAWYERS UP HERE.
05:52:02 SO I THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DISINGENUOUS THAT WE DIDN'T
05:52:07 REACH OUT, AND I WANTED THE RABBI TO TALK ABOUT THAT,
05:52:10 THAT IT WILL BE FUTILE TO TALK TO THIS ORGANIZATION ANYMORE.
05:52:14 I WANT TO TALK TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE I TURN OVER THE RABBI,
05:52:19 HERE AGAIN EVERYBODY THAT WEIGHED IN ON THIS, YOU HAVE THIS
05:52:22 NEW -- RELATIVELY NEW LAND USE CATEGORY CALLED
05:52:26 NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE AND FITS -- THIS APPLICATION FITS IT
05:52:30 TO THE T, THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES OF THAT CATEGORY.
05:52:35 THE PROPERTY ON AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY AND ALLOWS FOR
05:52:39 TRANSITION INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
05:52:41 ALL THE PROFESSIONALS WHO REVIEWED THIS HAVE WEIGHED IN AND
05:52:47 RECOMMENDED APPROVAL INCLUDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:52:49 WITH THAT BEING SAID, A COUPLE OTHER POINTS AND I WANTED TO
05:52:53 GET -- THE RABBI WANTED TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON THIS ISSUE
05:52:57 ABOUT THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ARMORY.
05:53:04 >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
05:53:06 MENDY DABROWSKI.
05:53:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOUR NAME IS FINE.
05:53:18 >> NUMBER ONE, I THINK IT WILL IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE
05:53:21 FACT THAT THIS PETITION IS BEING SUBMITTED WITH THE GOAL OF
05:53:27 SERVING THAT COMMUNITY.
05:53:29 WHETHER THEY RECOGNIZE THAT OR NOT AND WHAT NMUs ARE
05:53:36 DESIGNED TO DO AND THE ORGANIZATION THAT IS THE APPLICATION
05:53:38 IS AN ORGANIZATION BUILT AROUND THE EXPRESSED SERVICE.
05:53:42 NOT IN NAME ONLY BUT AN ORGANIZATION WITH THE PROVEN --
05:53:46 PROVEN TRACK RECORD OVER THE LAST 14 AND A HALF YEARS THAT
05:53:48 WE SERVICE OUR PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
05:53:51 AND THIS IS NO DIFFERENT, WHILE, YES, THERE IS DEFINITELY
05:53:55 CHALLENGES AND CONCERNS, THAT IS A PROVEN RECORD THAT WE CAN
05:53:58 STAND ON, NUMBER ONE.
05:54:02 I DON'T WANT TO ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE.
05:54:05 I REACHED OUT TO MISS SANCHEZ, SHE INITIALLY TOLD ME SHE DID
05:54:10 NOT WANT TO MEET WITH ME.
05:54:12 I HAVE THE RECORDED RESPONSE.
05:54:13 SHE SAID SOME TIME OPENED UP AND I MET WITH HER IMMEDIATELY
05:54:17 AND I DID NOT GET THE CONSENSUS FROM HER SHE WAS WILLING TO
05:54:21 UNDERSTAND WHY WE MADE CHANGES THAT WERE DIRECTLY CONNECTED
05:54:24 WITH LIFE, SAFETY AND OTHER ISSUES WHICH YOU WILL SEE WHEN
05:54:27 WE MAKE OUR SECOND PRESENTATION.
05:54:28 THAT WAS KNOWN TO HER, WHAT THE CHANGES WERE, THAT I
05:54:33 THINK WILL PROVIDE A LOT OF UNDERSTANDING TO WHETHER THIS
05:54:37 CHANGE IS ACTUALLY RELATED TO WELCOMING.
05:54:41 SIGNIFICANT MORE PEOPLE OR A CHANGE MADE FOR PRACTICAL
05:54:46 CONSIDERATIONS BECAUSE THE FIRST DESIGN DIDN'T WORK.
05:54:49 TO ADDRESS THE PREVIOUS CONCERN, WHY PEOPLE BUY PROPERTIES
05:54:53 WITH THE INTENTION OF GOING AND CHANGING THE LAND USE.
05:54:56 THAT IS NOT THE CASE HERE.
05:54:57 THE BIGGEST PROOF IS THAT WHEN THIS PARCEL WAS PURCHASED
05:55:02 MORE THAN FIVE YEARS AGO AND A REZONING WAS HAD AT THAT
05:55:06 TIME, THERE WAS NO REQUEST TO CHANGE ANY PLANNED COMMISSION
05:55:08 WHATSOEVER.
05:55:11 OUR GOAL WAS TO OPERATE WITHIN THAT GUIDELINE.
05:55:14 WE WENT THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS.
05:55:16 WE WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF TO TRY TO FACILITATE THAT
05:55:19 PROCESS.
05:55:20 WE HAD MAJOR LIFE SAFETY ISSUES AND CHALLENGES TRYING TO
05:55:24 STAY WITHIN THAT GUIDELINES.
05:55:25 THAT IS WHAT PRECIPITATED US HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF
05:55:30 AND PRECIPITATED GOING THROUGH THE RANGE.
05:55:35 IT IS NOT OUR INTENTION TO UPEND THE MATCH.
05:55:38 WE ARE NORTHWEST LOOKING TO DRAMATICALLY CHANGE TO THE
05:55:42 CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:55:42 AS I EXPRESSED TO MISS SANCHEZ THAT I LOOK FORWARD, I WANT
05:55:48 TO BE A RESIDENT IN ARMORY GARDENS AND I AM CURRENTLY
05:55:52 EXPLORING MOVING MY FAMILY TO THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
05:55:55 WHILE I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND A LARGER QUESTION AS
05:56:00 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK PUTTING THESE TWO ISSUES WHICH IS BEYOND
05:56:04 MY PAY GRADE, THIS SPECIFICALLY WAS NOT DESIGNED TO UP-END
05:56:08 THAT MAP.
05:56:08 IT WAS BORN OUT OF NECESSITY THAT BROUGHT US BACK HERE TO
05:56:13 THE COUNCIL TODAY.
05:56:13 THANK YOU.
05:56:14 >> CHAIR, CAN I HAVE 30 MORE SECONDS TO WRAP THIS UP.
05:56:17 RYAN, JUST TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF POINTS OF THE DENSITY.
05:56:22 >> SURE, RYAN MANASSE.
05:56:32 ONE MORE DWELLING UNIT AND DOES NOT SET PRECEDENT.
05:56:37 EACH PROPERTY STANDS ON ITS OWN MERITS.
05:56:43 OUR REQUEST FOR NMU-24, NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED-USE CATEGORY.
05:56:48 THERE ARE SIDEWALKS ALONG ARMENIA AVENUE AND IN THE REZONING
05:56:53 SUBSEQUENT IF YOU SIDEWALKS ON STATE STREET AND USES ALLOWED
05:56:58 IN THE NMU OF CATEGORY IS WHAT IS IN THE PD.
05:57:04 WITH THAT, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
05:57:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: DOES THAT COMPLETE YOUR PRESENTATION AND
05:57:09 YOUR REBUTTAL?
05:57:11 >> YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
05:57:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:57:13 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:57:20 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO IT'S GOING FROM WHAT TO WHAT?
05:57:23 I HEARD -- I SAW IT EARLIER, ONE MORE DWELLING UNIT.
05:57:27 WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE DIFFERENCE?
05:57:30 WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS?
05:57:32 >> YOU WANT STAFF TO ADDRESS THAT.
05:57:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MASSIVE BUILDING.
05:57:35 HOW MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS ALREADY ALLOWED.
05:57:39 >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:57:41 LET ME GET THAT SLIDE AND PUT THAT BACK UP THERE FOR YOU.
05:57:45 UNDER THE EXISTING R-20 DESIGNATION.
05:57:54 FIVE DWELLING UNITS OR SLIGHTLY OVER 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF
05:57:57 NONRESIDENTIAL USES AND UNDER THE PROPOSED NMU-24
05:58:02 DESIGNATION, SIX DWELLING UNITS OR SLIGHTLY OVER 11,000
05:58:07 SQUARE FEET OF RESIDENTIAL OR NONRESIDENTIAL USES.
05:58:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAXIMUM 11,325 IF THAT CHANGE IS
05:58:14 APPROVED.
05:58:15 >> CORRECT.
05:58:16 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOESN'T MEAN WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
05:58:18 WHICH DON'T KNOW AND WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT YET.
05:58:22 THANK YOU.
05:58:23 THIS IS VERY FRUSTRATING.
05:58:25 THANK YOU.
05:58:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:58:40 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN HEIGHT THAT IS
05:58:43 ALLOWED?
05:58:44 THAT WOULD BE A ZONING ISSUE.
05:58:46 NOT A PLANNING ISSUE.
05:58:48 JUST THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT IS ALLOWED.
05:58:51 ANY DIFFERENCE?
05:58:53 >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN.
05:58:54 THE HEIGHT IS REGULATED AT THE TIME OF ZONING.
05:58:57 WE DON'T REGULATE THE HEIGHT INCH.
05:59:00 >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS ONE UNIT AND 5,000 TO
05:59:05 6,000 FEET.
05:59:08 >>EMILY PHELAN: CORRECT.
05:59:09 >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THE USAGE THAT IS
05:59:13 ALLOWED?
05:59:16 >>EMILY PHELAN: IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO INTRODUCE LIMITED
05:59:20 COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.
05:59:21 CITY STAFF CAN SPEAK MORE WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALL
05:59:24 OF THOSE, BUT THEY ARE VERY SIMILAR.
05:59:27 >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. BENSON, IF YOU WANT MIND EXPLAINING THE
05:59:33 DIFFERENCE.
05:59:34 >>STEPHEN BENSON: THE R-20 THAT IS ALONG THE CORRIDOR DOES
05:59:38 ALLOW COMMERCIAL, BUT ONLY IF IT MEETS THE LOCATIONAL
05:59:41 CRITERIA WHICH THIS DOES BECAUSE IT IS ON ARMENIA.
05:59:44 THAT IS WHY THERE ARE SOME OFFICES THAT ARE ALONG THIS
05:59:48 STRETCH OF ARMENIA, BUT THE MAP REFLECTS THE RESIDENTIAL
05:59:52 DESIGNATION.
05:59:54 SO IN THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE CATEGORY, IT DOES HE THINKS.
05:59:58 THE NUMBER -- THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL USES AND INTENSITY
06:00:01 OF COMMERCIAL USE THAT OCCUR BY RIGHT.
06:00:08 AND THERE ARE SIMILAR USES UNDER THE NMU AS OPPOSED TO
06:00:17 THE 20.
06:00:17 >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. MANASSE SAYS THE USE ALLOWED.
06:00:23 >> THE USE OF PART OF THE ZONING.
06:00:27 >>LYNN HURTAK: HE SAID THE USAGE IS ALREADY ALLOWED.
06:00:31 OKAY, THANK YOU.
06:00:32 >> THE USAGE THAT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED WITH A RELIGIOUS
06:00:37 PLACE OF ASSEMBLY.
06:00:38 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
06:00:39 >> THEY BOTH WOULD ALLOW.
06:00:41 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
06:00:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:00:46 >>BILL CARLSON: MR. BENSON, SORRY, CAN I ASK YOU ANOTHER
06:00:50 QUESTION.
06:00:50 DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE PLAN, THE LAYOUT.
06:00:52 MY QUESTION IS, THERE IS THE PART THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE
06:00:59 ROAD AND ANOTHER PART THAT HOOKS AROUND THREE SINGLE-FAMILY
06:01:01 HOMES.
06:01:01 IS THERE ANY KIND OF RULE THAT PREVENTS THAT?
06:01:06 THAT SEEMS LIKE AN UNUSUAL CONFIGURATION.
06:01:08 TAMPA UNUSUAL -- IS THAT FOUR HOMES OR FIVE.
06:01:32 BUT IT HOOKS AROUND THAT.
06:01:33 SO YOU HAVE.
06:01:35 >>STEPHEN BENSON: OH, RIGHT HERE.
06:01:37 >>BILL CARLSON: THE BROWN, IS THAT SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES?
06:01:40 >>STEPHEN BENSON: YES FETCH.
06:01:41 >>BILL CARLSON: IS THAT UNUSUAL?
06:01:43 I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING THAT ONE THAT IS KIND OF
06:01:46 ENCAPSULATED IN THAT BUILDING.
06:01:49 >>STEPHEN BENSON: BY THE PARK?
06:01:50 THIS IS VILA BROTHERS PARK.
06:01:52 SORRY ABOUT THAT.
06:01:53 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I GET FOR NOT HAVING ENOUGH SLEEP.
06:02:01 NEVER MIND, THANK YOU.
06:02:02 >> COUNCILMAN CARLSON, TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT
06:02:07 PROPERTY ARE OFFICE DEVELOPMENTS EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE RES-20
06:02:12 AND APPEAR TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
06:02:14 WHICH IS PERMITTED.
06:02:15 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
06:02:29 A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:02:32 SECONDED BY --
06:02:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND?
06:02:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:02:38 FAVOR.
06:02:40 OPPOSED?
06:02:42 WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
06:02:59 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I REALLY HATE TO KILL THE WHOLE PROJECT.
06:03:01 THEY ARE ALLOWED SO MUCH AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE CONCERNS ME
06:03:08 AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEW PROJECT IS GOING TO BE.
06:03:10 COULD BE 6 ,000 SQUARE FEET OR 11,000 SQUARE FEET.
06:03:14 I WILL -- I WILL READ IT SINCE -- JUST TO READ IT AND SEE
06:03:19 WHERE IT GOES AND WE WILL GO FROM THERE.
06:03:21 ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
06:03:24 ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
06:03:30 PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR 808
06:03:36 N. ARMENIA AVENUE AND 2402 WEST STATE STREET, PROVIDING FOR
06:03:41 SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:03:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:03:49 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:03:52 ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
06:03:55 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:03:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:03:58 WHAT MR. MANISCALCO SAID AND WHAT MISS HURTAK SAID ARE
06:04:03 DIFFERENT BUT THE SEAM.
06:04:04 BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HEAR SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT
06:04:07 THE OTHER SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE.
06:04:08 AND IT IS LIKE PLAYING POOL.
06:04:11 AND -- PLAYING WITH HALF THE STICK AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE
06:04:15 THE OTHER HALF OF STICK IS AT.
06:04:17 MR. MANISCALCO WAS RIGHT IN TUNE AND MILLS HURTAK WAS RIGHT
06:04:23 ON TUNE BECAUSE OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THE -- NOT OF THE
06:04:27 DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, BUT OF THE CONCEPTUAL IDEA OF THE
06:04:31 NEIGHBORHOOD SAYING WHAT IS COMING HERE.
06:04:33 THEY DON'T KNOW.
06:04:34 AND THE PLAN -- I SEE IT MEETS ALL THE QUALIFICATIONS, BUT
06:04:41 THAT UNKNOWN FACTOR COULD CAUSE A CHILLING EFFECT WHAT MR.
06:04:47 MANISCALCO ADDRESSES.
06:04:48 A POSSIBILITY OF GOING FROM SOMETHING TO SOMETHING LARGE
06:04:51 THEIR MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND I AM NOT TALKING
06:04:54 SPECIFICALLY SO THEY SAY I AM SAYING ANYTHING OUT OF ORDER.
06:04:57 NOT TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICS, MEET A, B, C, AND D THAT WILL BE
06:05:05 REQUIRED.
06:05:05 I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE CAN'T SEE THAT.
06:05:07 THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I AM LOOKING AT.
06:05:09 AGAIN VERY BROAD.
06:05:10 I HOPE I WAS BROAD ENOUGH, MISS WELLS, TO SAY DOES IT
06:05:13 MEETING IS THAT -- I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING SPECIFIC.
06:05:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:05:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WOW.
06:05:25 I KNOW THAT -- BECAUSE WE CAN'T FORCE ANYBODY TO RETHINK OR
06:05:30 DO ANYTHING.
06:05:31 BUT I THINK WE HAVE TWO GOOD ORGANIZATIONS HERE.
06:05:35 I BELIEVE THERE ARE PROBABLY FIGHTING FOR THE SAME CALLSES.
06:05:41 A GOOD COMMUNITY.
06:05:46 TO HAVE GOODS PEOPLE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
06:05:48 AGAIN, RABBI, I CAN'T FORCE ANYBODY -- BUT I THINK -- MAYBE
06:05:58 ANOTHER CONVERSATION MIGHT BE HAD TO -- WITH THE COMMUNITY
06:06:01 SO THEY WILL KNOW -- AGAIN, WE ARE IN A TIGHT SHELL HERE.
06:06:07 AND, AGAIN, UP TO YOU AND MR. BE BENTLEY, BUT BEFORE WE MAKE
06:06:11 A VOTE AND -- BEFORE WE UPSET TWO PARTIES THAT I DON'T WANT
06:06:17 TO UPSET.
06:06:18 I WISH YOU COULD RECONSIDER AND ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE AND
06:06:22 TALK TO THE COMMUNITY SO THEY WILL KNOW WHAT IS COMING.
06:06:25 TO GIVE AN IDEA WHAT THEIR VISION IS.
06:06:27 THAT IS JUST MY THOUGHT.
06:06:28 I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT MAY GO, BUT RIGHT NOW I CAN HEAR FROM
06:06:31 THE TONE OF THIS COUNCIL, IT IS A TOUGH ONE.
06:06:33 INCH.
06:06:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO REOPEN.
06:06:35 MIRANDA SECOND.
06:06:37 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA TO OPEN THE
06:06:40 HEARING AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:06:42 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:06:43 ANY OPPOSED?
06:06:45 MOTION PASSES.
06:06:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:06:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I AM NOT TRYING
06:06:55 SPEAK OUT OF ORDER BUT WE CAN'T ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE AND
06:06:59 THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN'T ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE.
06:07:01 ONLY THE PERSON WHO MADE THE APPLICATION CAN ASK FOR IT, IF
06:07:06 THEY WANT TO.
06:07:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, YOUR HEARING IS OPEN.
06:07:12 WHATEVER HAPPENS NOW ULTIMATELY -- GOING TO GIVE MR. BENTLEY
06:07:18 --
06:07:18 >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD FOR THE
06:07:21 RECORD THAT WE, JUST LIKE ANYTHING, WE ARE APPROVING THE
06:07:26 PLAN CHANGE.
06:07:28 AND WE CAN'T -- IF SOMEBODY IS PUTTING -- IF SOMEBODY IS
06:07:34 PUTTING IN A STORE AND THEY ARE PUTTING IN A HIGH-END RETAIL
06:07:38 STORE THAT HAS LOW TRAFFIC VERSUS A LOW-END FAST-FOOD STORE,
06:07:43 WE CAN'T -- WE CAN ONLY 'PROVE PACED ON THE LAND USE OR THE
06:07:48 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:07:48 AND SO ONCE WE DESIGNATE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE DON'T --
06:07:53 WE DIDN'T BASE IT ON THE ACTUAL USE OF IT.
06:07:56 AND SO AS MUCH AS WE MIGHT.
06:08:00 SEEING WHO THE APPLICANT IS WANT TO SUPPORT IT, THE -- WE
06:08:06 CAN'T MAKE THE DECISION BASED ON THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW
06:08:09 WHAT THE FUTURE USE OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE AND THERE IS A
06:08:12 NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO IT THAT IS OBVIOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT
06:08:14 OVERDEVELOPMENT.
06:08:15 >> MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY WE ADDRESS COUNCIL?
06:08:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURELY.
06:08:26 >> RABBI.
06:08:26 >> I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE IDEA OF THE CONTINUANCE
06:08:30 THINK ABOUT THEORY IS PERFECTLY NORMAL AND ACCEPTABLE.
06:08:34 I AM A VERY LEVEL-HEADED GUY MOST OF THE TIME.
06:08:37 AND I THINK MY REPUTATION PROCEEDS ME OF SOMEONE THAT LOOKS
06:08:42 TO BROKER PEACE AND BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.
06:08:45 I AM QUITE CLEARLY.
06:08:48 BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT A CONTINUANCE IS GOING TO LEAD TO
06:08:51 ANY DRAMATIC CHANGE IN THIS PLAN.
06:08:54 PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS -- NOT BY MY DOING IS THAT THESE
06:09:00 TWO ITEMS ARE SEEN TOGETHER BUT APART.
06:09:03 YOUR CONCERN OF MAKING THE CHANGE BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDER
06:09:06 STAND YET WHY WE ARE MAKING THAT CHANGE OBVIOUSLY MAKES YOU
06:09:10 HESITANT TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.
06:09:11 WHICH I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, BUT WHEN I TRIED TO EXPLAIN
06:09:14 THAT TO SOME OF THE REPRESENTATIVES THERE, THEY DIDN'T WANT
06:09:18 TO HEAR IT.
06:09:19 THEY HAD NO INTEREST IN SEEING THE PLAN CHANGES.
06:09:21 THEY HAD NO INTEREST TO SEEING THE DESIGN CHANGES.
06:09:24 NO INTEREST IN DISCUSSING WHAT PRECIP TAPED US TO GO THROUGH
06:09:28 THIS SIX MONTH PROCESS ALL OVER AGAIN AND HAD NO INTEREST IN
06:09:32 DOING.
06:09:32 COST US MONEY, TIME AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
06:09:36 CAUSED ME TO BELIEVE THAT I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT TO PROTECT
06:09:40 THE INTEGRITY OF THEIR COMMUNITY WHICH THEY SHOULD 100%, BUT
06:09:44 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT A CONTINUANCE WILL LEAD THEM TO BETTER
06:09:47 UNDERSTAND WHY WE PRECIPITATED THESE CHANGES AND NOT
06:09:51 DESIGNED TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE COMING INTO THE
06:09:55 FACILITY, BUT RATHER TO SUGGEST SIGNIFICANT LIFE-SAFETY
06:09:58 ISSUES WE HAD WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE
06:10:03 ZONING THE FIRST TIME AROUND, THE I WAS RATION OF THE
06:10:06 DESIGN, WHAT WAS FLAWED WITH IT AND WHY WE MADE SIGNIFICANT
06:10:09 CHANGES.
06:10:09 THINGS LIKE BRINGING STAIRWELLS INSIDE THE BUILDING, RIGHT.
06:10:12 AND SO ON.
06:10:13 THAT ADDED 3,000 SQUARE FEET.
06:10:16 AND SO I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE DETAILS BECAUSE I KNOW
06:10:19 THAT IS THE NEXT PHASE.
06:10:20 MY POINT IS THIS PROCESS I UNDERSTAND CREATES A CHALLENGE,
06:10:24 AND THAT IS I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR HESITATION, BUT I DON'T
06:10:28 THINK A CONTINUANCE WILL LEAD THE PEOPLE AND COMMUNITY TO
06:10:32 HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE WHEN I MET WITH THEIR
06:10:36 REPRESENTATIVE WHO SPOKE HERE.
06:10:38 SHE HAD NO INTEREST IN LOOKING AT THE DESIGN.
06:10:41 I CAME WITH MY LAPTOP.
06:10:43 THE REASON THE MEETING WAS ONLY 20 MINUTES.
06:10:46 NOTHING ELSE TO SAY.
06:10:47 SHE SAID I HAVE TO SET A PRECEDENT IS HER EXACT WORDS.
06:10:51 THE PRECEDENT IS AGAINST THIS KIND OF EXPANSION.
06:10:55 I UNDERSTAND, THAT IS HER PREROGATIVE.
06:10:58 THAT TELLS ME NOT A QUESTION WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO MEET.
06:11:01 WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO TALK.
06:11:03 WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
06:11:05 IT MEANS TO SAY YOU REPRESENT A CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT AND THAT
06:11:09 WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE HERE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
06:11:11 AGAIN, I FAULT -- I AM NOT FAULTING HER FOR THAT, BUT I
06:11:15 DON'T THINK A CONTINUANCE IS GOING TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN.
06:11:18 AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF PUSHING OFF THIS
06:11:22 PROJECT RATHER THAN NOW WE ARE READY TO MOVE FORWARD, THANK
06:11:26 GOD, PUSHING OFF THE PROJECT IS WHAT IS HAPPENED WITH A
06:11:34 NONPROFIT, I DON'T THINK THAT IS MUCH EX-PETITION TESHTIOUS.
06:11:38 I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE CORRECT MOVE.
06:11:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:11:43 >>BILL CARLSON: ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MISS SANCHEZ'S
06:11:49 RESPONSE TO THAT, AND ALSO -- I KNOW THE ATTORNEYS KNOW
06:11:52 THIS, BUT COULD STAFF JUST EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENS IF WE SAY
06:11:55 NO.
06:11:56 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN, MR. CHAIR --
06:12:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE MISS SANCHEZ ALREADY HAD HER TIME
06:12:11 TO SPEAK.
06:12:12 BUT IF YOU WANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION AND ARE YOU WANTING TO
06:12:15 HAVE A SIDE BAR WITH MISS WELLS.
06:12:18 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS THERE IS ANY OBJECTION, I WOULD LIKE
06:12:21 FIVE MINUTES TO DISCUSS WITH MISS WELLS.
06:12:23 I ASK THE COUNCIL NOT TO DISCUSS THIS DURING FIVE MINUTES
06:12:27 UNLESS COUNCIL --
06:12:29 >>BILL CARLSON: WE WILL LOSE A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER IN A
06:12:32 SECOND.
06:12:32 MR. VIERA HAS TO LEAVE.
06:12:34 >>LUIS VIERA: I SHOULD HAVE LEFT TEN MINUTES AGO AND TRYING
06:12:38 TO STAY FOR THE VOTE.
06:12:39 IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, I DON'T WANT TO DELAY THE PROCESS AT
06:12:44 ALL.
06:12:44 I WAS TRYING TO DO THAT.
06:12:45 IF SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR 9 PROCESS.
06:12:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL ASK THE QUESTION.
06:12:50 I LIKE THAT, BUT I WILL ASK THE QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN POSED
06:12:54 AND STAFF CAN TALK ABOUT THIS.
06:12:55 WITH REGARD TO THE REZONING, I DON'T BELIEVE THE REZONING IS
06:13:00 ABLE TO GO FORWARD IF THIS LAND -- FUTURE LAND USE MAP
06:13:05 AMENDMENT IS DENIED AND I WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO CONFIRM
06:13:08 THAT FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
06:13:09 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
06:13:15 THE REZONING APPLICATION UNDER ITEM 8 ON YOUR AGENDA
06:13:19 REQUIRES THE NMU-24 LAND USE DESIGNATION IN ORDER TO MOVE
06:13:24 FORWARD.
06:13:25 IF THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT IN ITEM 1 IS NOT APPROVED TODAY
06:13:29 AND IT IS DENIED, THEN THE APPLICANT HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO
06:13:32 WITHDRAW THE REZONING APPLICATION OR THIS COUNCIL WOULD HAVE
06:13:37 NO CHOICE BUT TO DENY THE REZONING APPLICATION BECAUSE IT
06:13:40 NECESSARILY REQUIRES THE N MU-24 DESIGNATION.
06:13:44 >> JUST A COMMENT JUST FOR THE RECORD, WHEN WE DEALT WITH
06:13:53 THE MIDTOWN PROJECT, WE MADE A OF CONDITION OF PD OR ZONING
06:13:58 APPROVAL OBTAINING THE LAND USE CHANGE.
06:14:02 THAT WAS MY SUGGESTION IS TO CONTINUE THIS HEARING, HEARING
06:14:07 THE ZONING CASE.
06:14:08 MAKE THE ZONING APPROVAL CONTINGENT UPON THE LAND USE
06:14:14 CHANGE.
06:14:14 JUST A SUGGESTION JUST TO KEEP THIS THING MOVING.
06:14:17 THANK YOU.
06:14:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
06:14:24 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT BEING SAID, COUNCIL, IF YOU WILL ALLOW
06:14:29 ME FIVE MINUTES TO WORK THROUGH THESE PROCESSES.
06:14:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
06:14:36 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE ASK MR. BENTLEY -- HE WON'T BE HERE
06:14:40 FOR THE REF ZONING HEARING.
06:14:42 WHAT DO YOU WANT TOP DO THEN?
06:14:49 >> THE CLIENT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD.
06:14:51 THANK YOU, THOUGH.
06:14:52 APPRECIATE IT.
06:14:53 >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE DON'T DISCUSS THE MATTER, COUNCIL.
06:15:03 THANK YOU.
06:15:03 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
06:29:13 ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
06:29:15 >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
06:29:21 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
06:29:25 >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
06:29:27 >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
06:29:28 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
06:29:30 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
06:29:31 >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
06:29:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHO AM I GOING TO FIRST.
06:29:38 MR. BENTLEY OR MR. SHELBY.
06:29:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR
06:29:45 THE TIME TO ADDRESS SOME PROCESS QUESTIONS AND TO GET CLEAR.
06:29:49 WITH THIS PROCESS BEING SET UP THE WAY IT IS, MR. BENTLEY
06:29:53 HAD RAISED A SUGGESTION THAT -- THAT WE WOULD MOVE TO THE
06:29:58 REZONING WITH THIS BEING CONTINUED.
06:30:01 AND IT HAS BEEN AGREED UPON -- I AGREE WITH MISS WELLS AND
06:30:06 HER POSITION AND THE SAME WITH MY POSITION WHICH IS THAT HAS
06:30:09 NOT BEEN DONE.
06:30:10 WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS YOU HAVE THIS -- THIS NEEDS TO
06:30:13 MOVE FORWARD.
06:30:14 IF THIS MOVES FORWARD, AFFIRMATIVELY, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO
06:30:18 GET TO THE REZONING, BUT THE DECISION NOW, THE THRESHOLD
06:30:22 QUESTION IS WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO AS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER
06:30:26 WITH THIS COMPREHENSIVE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
06:30:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO.
06:30:33 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:30:35 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE A PROCESS.
06:30:37 SOME OF THESE PROCESSES ARE FLAWED.
06:30:40 BUT SINCE WE HAVE A PROCESS NOW.
06:30:41 LET'S SAY WE MOVE THIS FORWARD.
06:30:46 AND WE GO TO NUMBER 8 IN THE REZONING.
06:30:49 AT THAT POINT IN THE REZONING THERE ARE COUNCIL HAS A RIGHT
06:30:53 TO PUT STIPULATIONS ON THE REZONING, CORRECT?
06:30:57 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE CASE AND LISTEN
06:30:59 TO WHAT THE EVIDENCE IS, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
06:31:02 TO DISCUSS WHAT THE ISSUES ARE AND HAVE THE -- AND LISTEN TO
06:31:08 WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD' POSITIONS ARE AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO
06:31:15 ADDRESS THOSE POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS.
06:31:18 AGAIN THAT DECISION -- YOU HAVE TO RELY ON THE COMPETENT
06:31:21 SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD AS OPPOSED TO A
06:31:24 LEGISLATIVE MATTER WHICH IS A DIFFERENT STANDARD.
06:31:27 THAT IS A FAIRLY DEBATABLE STANDARD.
06:31:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF MISS WELLS?
06:31:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, YOU CAN.
06:31:47 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVER DONE BEFORE TO HEAR THE REZONING
06:31:50 BEFORE THE LAND CHANGE -- THE LAND --
06:31:52 >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR THE RECORD.
06:31:55 NOT SINCE I HAVE BEEN WITH THE CITY.
06:31:57 IF IT HAS BEEN DONE, IT WAS BEFORE I RETURNED TO THE CITY IN
06:32:02 2019.
06:32:02 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS THE REASON I ASKED.
06:32:05 BECAUSE I DON'T REMEMBER EITHER.
06:32:07 WHICHEVER WORD YOU WANT TO USE.
06:32:11 SO WE ARE BACK TO SQUARE ONE.
06:32:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HOWEVER, MR. BENTLEY --
06:32:24 >> YES, SIR.
06:32:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYTHING FURTHER YOU WANT TO STATE BEFORE WE
06:32:30 CLOSE THIS HEARING?
06:32:33 >> WELL, I HAD A SUGGESTION, AND I DON'T THINK MISS WELLS
06:32:37 WILL ENDORSE IT, BUT IF WE CONTINUED THE MATTER FOR
06:32:42 DISCUSSION ON THE ZONING.
06:32:43 THEN TAKE ACTION ON THE ZONING TO ENLIGHTEN YOU WHAT IS
06:32:47 PROPOSED ON THE PROPERTY AND THEN TAKE ACTION ON THE PLAN
06:32:51 AMENDMENT.
06:32:52 YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE WAY THINGS ARE -- THE WAY THIS IS
06:32:57 GOING IS -- I DON'T SEE HOW YOU COULD EVER APPROVE A PLAN
06:33:02 AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW.
06:33:03 IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT IN A VACUUM LIKE THIS.
06:33:08 BUT THIS IS THE PROCESS.
06:33:11 AND WE ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO EXPLAIN THE PROJECT TO YOU
06:33:15 AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET THAT OPPORTUNITY.
06:33:17 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:33:19 COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DID YOU YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
06:33:25 kt THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS
06:33:28 BASED ON LOTS AND LOTS OF PUBLIC INPUT FROM NEIGHBORHOOD AND
06:33:33 COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND CONSENSUS BUILT AROUND IT, WHEN THERE
06:33:38 IS -- WHEN THERE IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE, THEN HUMID
06:33:42 IN THEORY, THIS SHOULD INCLUDE THE SAME KIND OF PUBLIC
06:33:46 OUTREACH AND SCRUTINY.
06:33:49 IN THIS CASE THE COMMUNITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAYS THAT
06:33:52 THEY STILL HAVE ESPECIALLY THOUGHTS TO GIVE OR FEEDBACK TO
06:33:57 GIVE.
06:33:57 AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
06:34:00 I WOULD RATHER NOT VOTE AGAINST THIS.
06:34:04 AT THE SAME TIME, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGES, IT SEEMS
06:34:09 TO ME NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC INPUT.
06:34:12 IT WOULD BE BETTER TO DELAY IT FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO
06:34:15 ENCOURAGE THAT.
06:34:16 AND AT THAT TIME, THE -- THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD REFUSED TO
06:34:20 MEET, THEN THAT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S FAULT.
06:34:22 BUT IN THE MEANTIME, MIGHT BE CONSTRUCTIVE.
06:34:30 ACTION THAT MAY AVOID IT FROM BEING VOTED DOWN.
06:34:34 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:34:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:34:37 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, I SEE MRS. SANCHEZ KEEPS
06:34:42 STANDING UP AND THE RABBI TALKED OF THE ATTEMPT TO SPEAK TO
06:34:46 MISS SANCHEZ.
06:34:47 IS IT POSSIBLE -- SINCE THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER HEAR
06:34:51 FROM MISS SANCHEZ AND MAYBE THERE WILL BE A DISCUSSION LATER
06:34:57 CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE SITUATION WITH THE COMMUNITY?
06:35:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER, IT IS.
06:35:04 IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR MISS SANCHEZ.
06:35:09 I AM SORRY.
06:35:11 >> THIS IS ALL ONE-SIDED.
06:35:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MA'AM.
06:35:20 MR. BENTLEY.
06:35:22 >> I TALKED TO THE CLIENT.
06:35:23 AND MR. CARLSON MADE GOOD SUGGESTION TO DELAY THIS TWO WEEKS.
06:35:29 GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH THE
06:35:32 COMMUNITY, THEIR REPRESENTATIVES AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL
06:35:36 RESULT IN SOMETHING POSITIVE.
06:35:37 IF NOT, WE WILL BE BACK HERE IN TWO WEEKS AND SAY AT LEAST
06:35:41 WE GAVE IT A TRY.
06:35:45 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE?
06:35:47 >> UNTIL APRIL 25, IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
06:35:49 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, I WOULD LIKE TO CONFER WITH
06:35:55 STAFF AS OF THAT STATE.
06:35:57 >> 27th?
06:36:00 APRIL 27th.
06:36:01 >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT?
06:36:07 >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT -- THAT IS AN ALCOHOL NIGHT.
06:36:10 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS AN ALCOHOL NIGHT.
06:36:13 THAT IS TRUE.
06:36:13 IT IS AN ALCOHOL NIGHT.
06:36:15 >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE DO IT IN MAY.
06:36:20 >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW MANY PETITIONS DO WE HAVE?
06:36:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE HEAR THAT ON AN ALCOHOL NIGHT.
06:36:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNLESS STAFF HAS A CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
06:36:33 THEY ARE LOOKING AT IT, COUNCIL.
06:36:39 >> RYAN MANASSE, WHAT DATE DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE?
06:36:59 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT DATE IS OPEN?
06:37:03 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LOOKING AT THE ABILITY FOR APRIL 27.
06:37:05 ACCORDING TO YOUR COUNCIL.
06:37:08 ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE NIGHT.
06:37:10 ONE LISTED AND DOESN'T MEAN IT HAVEN'T BEEN --
06:37:14 >>BILL CARLSON: MARCH 27 OR APRIL --
06:37:16 >> WE ARE TALKING OF A COUPLE OF WEEKS, I THOUGHT.
06:37:19 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE ARE LOOKING AT MARCH.
06:37:23 >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN MARCH.
06:37:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LOOKING AT MARCH 23.
06:37:30 THE EVENING OF MARCH 23.
06:37:32 >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S PACKED.
06:37:37 ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE.
06:37:44 >>MARTIN SHELBY: LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
06:37:47 AMENDMENTS AND ONE LAND REZONING ALREADY SCHEDULED FOR THAT
06:37:51 NIGHT.
06:37:52 IT LOOKS LIKE.
06:37:54 ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR --
06:38:09 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MARCH 9?
06:38:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 23 IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
06:38:15 PRESENTLY NINE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FROM WHAT I SEE PRESENTLY
06:38:33 ON THE CALENDAR.
06:38:34 >>BILL CARLSON: THE NEXT ONE IS APRIL 13.
06:38:37 AND THIS IS TOO FAR OUT.
06:38:39 USUALLY WE HAVE A CANCELLATION.
06:38:42 CAN'T WE SAY WE CAP IT FOR -- WHATEVER IT ON THAT LIST FOR
06:38:46 THAT NIGHT, MARCH 23?
06:38:56 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND COORDINATION.
06:39:00 THERE IS AVAILABILITY ON MARCH 23.
06:39:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE FIRST ITEM --
06:39:10 >>BILL CARLSON: WOULD YOU HAVE TO PUT 8 ON THAT.
06:39:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN YOU GET TO NUMBER 8, PUT IT ON THE
06:39:17 SAME IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
06:39:22 >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 1 TO MARCH
06:39:26 23, FIRST ITEM.
06:39:28 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
06:39:28 >>JOSEPH CITRO: 5:01.
06:39:32 >>MARTIN SHELBY: 5:01.
06:39:33 THE TIME WILL BE SET --
06:39:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: FIRST AGENDA ITEM.
06:39:37 >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST AGENDA ITEM.
06:39:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
06:39:43 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, JUST A REMINDER, YOU HEARD
06:39:48 EVERYBODY'S PRESENTATIONS, YOU HEARD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
06:39:51 PUBLIC TO SPEAK.
06:39:52 THE MATTER WOULD BE -- IT WOULDN'T BE ANOTHER FULL
06:39:55 PRESENTATION UNLESS THERE ARE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES OR
06:39:58 SOMETHING HAPPENS THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE
06:40:01 POTENTIAL CHANGES, BUT TO HAVE ANOTHER WHOLE FULL
06:40:04 PRESENTATION FROM EITHER SIDE.
06:40:05 >> WE WOULDN'T INTEND TO IF YOU WANT A SUMMARY OF WHERE
06:40:10 THINGS STOOD.
06:40:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WILL BE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE OF THE
06:40:14 PURPOSE OF THE CONTINUANCE.
06:40:15 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BUT WE HAVE TO DO BOTH OF THEM.
06:40:19 >>BILL CARLSON: WE WILL DO THE SECOND AND I WILL -- I FORGOT
06:40:24 TO READ IT, ITEM NUMBER ONE, FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-26 AFTER THE
06:40:35 MOTION IS MADE AND SECOND.
06:40:37 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER ONE,
06:40:40 FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-26, TO MARCH 23 TO BE THE FIRST ITEM ON
06:40:43 THE 5:01 P.M. AGENDA.
06:40:46 >> SECOND.
06:40:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE -- THEN IN CHAMBERS
06:40:50 THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS CONTINUANCE ONLY?
06:41:05 >> GOOD EVENING.
06:41:06 MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
06:41:10 I WANT TO SAY THAT I SUPPORT THIS CONTINUE BANS.
06:41:12 THE RABBI STOOD UP AND HE SAID HE WANTS TO DO THIS FOR THE
06:41:16 COMMUNITY, AND I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, BUT YOU CAN'T DO SO
06:41:22 WITH THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT SPEAKING TO A COMMUNITY.
06:41:24 AND HAVING NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AND INVITING THE PEOPLE WHO
06:41:28 LIVE WITHIN 250 FEET IS THE IDEAL MOVEMENT FORWARD.
06:41:36 WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT THAT.
06:41:38 THANK YOU.
06:41:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
06:41:42 >> JUST VERY QUICKLY.
06:41:43 I AM GLAD FOR THE CONTINUANCE --
06:41:47 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY --
06:41:50 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS SANCHEZ, WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
06:41:52 >> SANDRA SANCHEZ, 2705 DIG STREET, TAMPA, ARMORY GARDENS.
06:41:58 I AGREE WITH THE CONTINUANCE.
06:42:01 AND I HOPE BETWEEN NOW AND THAT TIME, THAT THE RABBI WILL
06:42:06 REACH OUT TO TALK TO ME.
06:42:07 WE NEVER RECEIVED A LETTER.
06:42:11 WE NEVER RECEIVED AN E-MAIL.
06:42:13 WE DID RECEIVE THE GOOD NEARBY NOTICE, BUT NEVER AN ATTEMPT
06:42:18 TO TALK TO US.
06:42:19 SO I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE CONTINUANCE WILL GO FORWARD ON
06:42:23 THE CONDITION THAT HE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY OR AT LEAST
06:42:28 REPRESENT TESTIFIES FROM THE COMMUNITY, THANK YOU.
06:42:29 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, IF I
06:42:32 CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT STATEMENT BEFORE MR. BENTLEY HAS A
06:42:36 LAST WORD, IF HE DOES.
06:42:37 I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT YOUR CODE DOES NOT REQUIRE A
06:42:41 NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING PRESENTLY.
06:42:43 AND THIS IS AS A RESULT OF THIS DISCUSSION, AND, AGAIN, THAT
06:42:49 HAS COME UP IN THE PAST AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS
06:42:51 NOW WITH REGARD TO STAFF, WHERE THIS STAND.
06:42:55 IF COUNCIL WISHES TO HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY
06:42:59 MEETINGS OR WHATEVER THE STAFF LIKES TO CALL IT, THE CITY,
06:43:03 AND MAKE THAT AS PART OF THE PROCESS, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE
06:43:07 AMENDED INTO YOUR CODE.
06:43:08 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE DISCUSSED OF HAVING COMMUNITY MEETING.
06:43:10 I THOUGHT WE DISCUSSED DOING IT.
06:43:12 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION, BUT QUITE
06:43:14 FRANKLY AS I SIT HERE NOW, I CANNOT TELL YOU WHERE THAT
06:43:18 STAND.
06:43:18 >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THOUGHT WE MADE A MOTION OR APPROVED THAT
06:43:21 GOING TO --
06:43:26 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WISHING TO TALK
06:43:29 ABOUT -- PLEASE COME FORWARD.
06:43:31 MR. BENTLEY.
06:43:33 >> DEBBIE ZAMORAN, 192 CORSICA STREET.
06:43:41 I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST GIVEN THE FACT THIS IS A LEGISLATIVE
06:43:46 MATTER.
06:43:46 RESIDENTS WHO WANT -- I AM ASKING A QUESTION.
06:43:52 WHAT I AM HEARD WE ARE ALLOWED TO -- WILL SOMEONE GIVE US
06:43:56 THE INFORMATION WE NEED TO KNOW IN THE EVENT WE WANT TO
06:43:59 CONTACT SOMEBODY AND THE PROCESS AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO --
06:44:04 >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IS THAT YOU REACH OUT TO
06:44:07 STAFF.
06:44:08 DO YOU HAVE -- JUST BY THE WAY FOR THE RECORD SO IT IS
06:44:12 CLEAR, WITH REGARD TO YOUR COMMENTS, YOU DID WAIVE YOUR
06:44:14 TIME, BUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW IS TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY
06:44:17 TO ASK A QUESTION.
06:44:19 >> RIGHT.
06:44:19 BECAUSE THIS IS ON THE CONTINUANCE.
06:44:21 I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE HELP -- HELPFUL.
06:44:27 NONE OF US INTEND TO VIOLATE EVERYTHING AND WE COULD DO IT
06:44:33 ACCIDENTALLY.
06:44:33 WHO WE ARE ALLOWED TO TALK TO AND WHO WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO
06:44:37 TALK ABOUT SO NO CONFUSION IF SOMEONE WANTS TO CONTACT ONE
06:44:42 OF OUR COUNCILMEMBERS.
06:44:43 PEP.
06:44:46 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE ASKING IF YOU CAN CONTACT YOUR
06:44:49 COUNCILMEMBERS.
06:44:50 >> IF SO, WHAT PARAMETERS WITH THE CONTACT.
06:44:53 WE UNDERSTAND WE WILL NOT BE TALKING OF AGENDA ITEM 8.
06:44:57 IF SOMEONE CAN SAY THAT FOR THE RECORD SO WE KNOW WHAT THE
06:45:01 PARAMETERS ARE, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.
06:45:04 >> FRANKLY WITH A PENDING REZONING MATTER, THAT IS
06:45:08 PROBLEMATIC BECAUSE VERY DIFFICULT TO STEER INTO WHAT
06:45:11 ULTIMATELY -- WE HAVE SEEN THAT TONIGHT.
06:45:14 IN TERMS OF A LEGISLATIVE AND CAN VEER INTO MATTERS OF
06:45:25 INAPPROPRIATE ZONING MATTERS THAT COULD BE EX-PARTE
06:45:30 COMMUNICATION AND PUT THE BURDEN ON THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER
06:45:34 TO ADDRESS THAT.
06:45:36 >> I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT ALSO AS CITIZENS, WE HAVE A RIGHT
06:45:39 TO COMMENT ON LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.
06:45:44 TO THE OTHER SIDE, AREN'T WE LOSING OUR RIGHT TO DISCUSS
06:45:50 LEGISLATIVE MATTERS THAT WE ARE ALLOWED PURSUANT TO THE
06:45:54 ORDINANCES AND RULES GOVERNING COMP PLAN CHANGES?
06:45:58 I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
06:46:00 I HEARD TONIGHT WE COULD SPEAK TO ANYBODY ON QUASI
06:46:04 LEGISLATIVE MATTERS.
06:46:05 THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO TALK TO, NOT THE QUASI
06:46:09 JUDICIAL ISSUE.
06:46:10 WE JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND NOT OUR
06:46:14 FAULT THEY ARE BOTH GOING AT THE SAME TIME WHICH GETS BACK
06:46:17 TO SEVERAL OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS' COMMENTS.
06:46:20 IF WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ON A QUASI LEGISLATIVE MATTER,
06:46:25 OUR RIGHTS ARE DENIED TO US.
06:46:27 AND I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ON A QUASI LEGISLATIVE ISSUE.
06:46:31 >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOLELY LEGISLATIVE.
06:46:33 QUASI-JUDICIAL.
06:46:36 >> LEGISLATIVE.
06:46:37 EXCUSE ME.
06:46:38 THIS IS WHY WE WANT CLARITY.
06:46:40 ON A LEGISLATIVE MATTER, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO
06:46:44 COUNCILMEMBERS.
06:46:44 AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM ABLE TO EXERCISE THAT
06:46:48 RIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE FOR
06:46:52 ME TO DO THAT AND I RECOGNIZE THERE IS ANOTHER ISSUE AND I
06:46:56 WILL FOLLOW ANY PARAMETERS THAT I NEED TO FOLLOW TO EXERCISE
06:47:00 MY RIGHT.
06:47:01 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE ASKING A QUESTION I'M NOT PREPARED
06:47:03 TO ANSWER TO YOU RIGHT NOW AT THIS PUBLIC MEETING DURING
06:47:06 THIS HEARING.
06:47:06 BUT WHAT I WILL DO IS -- I WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT WITH
06:47:10 YOU.
06:47:10 AND WE CAN DISCUSS THIS.
06:47:13 BUT YOU ARE ASKING NOW -- IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT
06:47:16 APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU INSTRUCTION NOW
06:47:22 HOW TO GO FORWARD.
06:47:22 MY ADVICE TO COUNCIL IS THE SAME AS IT IS NORMALLY THAT
06:47:26 COUNCIL, WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS POTENTIALLY GOING
06:47:30 BE THE SUBJECT OF A REZONING, YOU HAVE BEEN ADVISED IN THE
06:47:34 PAST TO BE ABLE TO AVOID PUTTING YOURSELF IN A POSITION OF
06:47:38 CREATING POTENTIALLY PREJUDICIAL STATEMENTS AND EX-PARTE
06:47:42 COMMUNICATIONS AND WE WILL ADDRESS THIS QUESTION AND BE ABLE
06:47:45 TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE.
06:47:46 >> I HAVE ONE FOLLOW-UP ON THAT.
06:47:50 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM GOING TO ASK YOU IF YOU TALK OFF-LINE.
06:47:54 >> THIS APPLIES TO THE GROUP HERE.
06:47:56 CAN WE HAVE THAT IN WRITE SOMETHING ALL I AM ASKING FOR SO
06:47:58 THE PUBLIC KNOWS -- WE NEED TO HAVE THE PROCESS THAT WE CAN
06:48:02 PARTICIPATE.
06:48:03 AND WE DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS AND THAT AFFECTS ALL OF NEWS
06:48:07 THIS ROOM.
06:48:07 NOT JUST MYSELF.
06:48:08 SO IF IT CAN BE IN WRITING, THAT WILL BE HELPFUL TO ALL OF
06:48:12 US.
06:48:13 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COMES DOWN TO THE CRITERIA AND WHAT THE
06:48:17 SUBJECT MATTER IS THAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING.
06:48:19 >> JUST THIS AGENDA ITEM.
06:48:20 ONLY THIS AGENDA ITEM, NUMBER 1.
06:48:24 I AM SORRY, I DIDN'T EVEN IN PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
06:48:27 EVERYBODY HEARD MY CONCERNS AND COMMENTS.
06:48:29 WE WANT TO TALK.
06:48:30 WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO DO.
06:48:33 MULTIPLE WITH ONES.
06:48:35 NOT JUST ME.
06:48:36 SOME KIND OF WRITTEN DIRECTION WILL BE MOST HELPFUL.
06:48:39 IF THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE, WE UNDERSTAND.
06:48:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN QUESTION PLEASE -- CAN YOU HAVE THIS
06:48:45 DISCUSSION LATER WHILE WE FINISH THIS CASE UP.
06:48:49 >> WHAT I AM ASKING THAT YOU AS A BODY CONSIDER PUTTING IN
06:48:55 SOME KIND OF DIRECTION HOW THAT WILL ALSO BE SHARED BECAUSE
06:48:58 IT IS A PUBLIC ISSUE.
06:48:59 IT IS NOT A ME AND MR. SHELBY ISSUE WHICH I GREATLY RESPECT
06:49:03 HIM.
06:49:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: HE IS OUR LEGAL ADVISOR.
06:49:06 >> RIGHT.
06:49:07 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
06:49:08 THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
06:49:10 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE CAN MOVE ON WITH THIS CASE.
06:49:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:49:14 >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME FOR SAYING THIS, BUT
06:49:17 INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME IN MY POSITION TO BE ABLE TO --
06:49:21 PARTICULARLY WITH REGARD FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE TO SET
06:49:23 FORTH PARAMETERS OF WHAT PEOPLE OR CANNOT SPEAK, THE
06:49:28 CRITERIA WHAT CAN BE SAID AND WHAT CAN'T BE SAID.
06:49:31 FRANKLY BETWEEN THE PETITIONER AND BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY.
06:49:35 AND WHAT THEY WANT TO SPEAK OF, THEY CAN SPEAK, BUT
06:49:40 ULTIMATELY, YOUR DECISION IS BASED ON CERTAIN CRITERIA AND
06:49:45 RELEVANT TO THE PARTICULAR MATTER THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE IN
06:49:48 FRONT OF YOU.
06:49:48 I AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO -- WHEN A HEARING COMES UP TO
06:49:52 BE ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE WHEN THEY MEET PRIVATELY WITH THE
06:49:55 APPLICANT APPLICANT WHAT IS APPROPRIATE AND HOW TO SPEAK.
06:49:59 I CAN'T DO THAT.
06:50:00 I AM SORRY.
06:50:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:50:03 >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY THAT WE ALL -- MY
06:50:07 UNDERSTANDING -- I AM NOT A LAWYER BUT IT IS LEGAL FOR ALL
06:50:10 OF YOU TO SEND E-MAILS.
06:50:12 AND WE READ THE E-MAILS.
06:50:15 MISS ZAMARAN SENDS -- WE READ ALL THE E-MAILS.
06:50:19 THE E-MAILS GO IN THE FILE AND THEY ARE PUBLIC RECORD, BUT
06:50:23 ONE-WAY COMMUNICATION.
06:50:25 YOU CAN SAY EVERYTHING YOU WANT IN AN E-MAIL AND MAKE SURE
06:50:29 WE ARE ALL PROTECTED LEGALLY.
06:50:33 UNLESS YOU GET ANOTHER OPINION, I SAY SEND US DETAILED
06:50:38 E-MAILS?
06:50:39 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
06:50:41 >>LYNN HURTAK: REITERATES NOT HEARING THEM ON THE SEAM
06:50:45 NIGHT.
06:50:45 THAT IS IS A LEGISLATIVE ISSUE.
06:50:48 WE SHOULD BE TIME HAVE THEM.
06:50:50 QUASI-JUDICIAL IS DIFFERENT.
06:50:53 WHEN YOU MIX THE TWO, YES, I CAN SEE HOW THE PUBLIC FEELS
06:50:56 LIKE THEIR VOICES REASONABILITY ABLE TO BE HEARD.
06:51:00 WHATEVER IT TAKES TO DIVIDE THESE GOING FORWARD, I AM
06:51:05 WILLING TO DO, BECAUSE IT SAVES US FROM NIGHTS LIKE THIS.
06:51:08 OF THIS IS JUST TOO COMPLICATED.
06:51:13 IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND,
06:51:18 FOR COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND.
06:51:19 JUST FRUSTRATION ON ALL LEVELS FOR THIS.
06:51:22 AND SO, YEAH.
06:51:25 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
06:51:30 WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CONTINUE FROM COUNCILMAN
06:51:36 CARLSON.
06:51:36 WHO SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:51:40 WE HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE IN CHAMBERS ABOUT THE CONTINUANCE
06:51:49 PETITION LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
06:51:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:51:57 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:51:58 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:52:00 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:52:02 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:52:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:52:07 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
06:52:12 >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE, MR. CHAIR --
06:52:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW IF WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC
06:52:18 OF ANYTHING PERTAINING TO AGENDA NUMBER 8, FILE NO.
06:52:25 REZ-23-08, I AM GOING TO ASK EVERYONE WHO IS GOING TO GIVE
06:52:29 ANY KIND OF TESTIMONY AT TONIGHT'S HEARING TO PLEASE STAND
06:52:33 --
06:52:34 >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE IT.
06:52:36 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEY HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE.
06:52:39 >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
06:52:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF THEY ARE GOING TO SPEAK TO THE
06:52:44 CONTINUANCE.
06:52:48 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN'T HEAR ITEM NUMBER 8 BECAUSE YOU
06:52:52 CONTINUED ITEM NUMBER 1.
06:52:53 >>BILL CARLSON: I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE?
06:52:57 OF MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
06:53:00 FILE NO. REZ-23-08.
06:53:01 TO MARCH 23 AS THE SECOND AGENDA ITEM ON THE 5 D 01 AGENDA.
06:53:07 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:53:12 I HEARD THE PEOPLE TALKING.
06:53:14 IF YOU CAN ASK FOR QUIET PLEASE PEP.
06:53:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
06:53:21 FILE NO. REZ-23-08.
06:53:22 BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:53:24 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:53:26 >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I.
06:53:29 IF YOU COULD STATE THE DATE AND TIME AGAIN AND THE FACT IT
06:53:33 IS HERE IN THE CHAMBERS BECAUSE THAT IS -- AGAIN, THE ONLY
06:53:36 NOTICE THAT PEOPLE WILL GET.
06:53:37 >>BILL CARLSON: MARCH 23 AS A SECOND ITEM ON THE 5:01 AGENDA
06:53:43 HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
06:53:45 >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
06:53:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:53:53 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE
06:53:59 CONTINUANCE --
06:54:00 >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
06:54:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S IT.
06:54:02 >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF ANYBODY OPPOSED.
06:54:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:54:14 ANY OPPOSED?
06:54:17 MOTION CARRIES.
06:54:19 >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
06:54:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:54:25 >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE HAVE BEEN ON THIS SUBJECT OVER AN HOUR
06:54:31 -- OVER TWO HOURS.
06:54:32 SOFT -- I MEAN IT GOES BACK TO THE POINT THAT I ALWAYS SAY
06:54:37 WHEN SOMETHING ARISES, YOU HAVE TO FIX IT UP.
06:54:43 WHEN SOMETHING ARISES YOU HAVE TO FIX THE PROCESS.
06:54:45 I KEEP SAYING THAT THE CITY IS GETTING BIGGER NOW.
06:54:48 THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS NOW.
06:54:51 AND -- AND PEOPLE NOW QUESTION WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEIR
06:54:55 CITY NOW.
06:54:55 SO I AM JUST SAYING WITH THIS COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD.
06:54:59 WHATEVER IT MAY BE, YOU MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT SEPARATING THESE
06:55:03 TWO AND ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS SOME TYPE OF
06:55:07 UNDERSTANDING SO THE COMMUNITY -- THEY CAN KNOW WHAT A
06:55:11 LEGISLATIVE VERSUS A QUASI-JUDICIAL.
06:55:15 EVERY DAY PEOPLE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
06:55:17 THEY ARE FRUSTRATED AND THEY ARE FOR OR AGAINST.
06:55:20 I THINK MOVING FORWARD WITH MR. CARLSON BE HERE AND A FEW
06:55:24 OTHERS THAT MAYBE YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE PROCESS AND CHANGE
06:55:27 THE PROCESS SO THE COMMUNITY CAN BE MORE ENGAGED BECAUSE
06:55:31 THAT'S WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE GOING RATE.
06:55:34 EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW TO BE A PART OF THE PROCESS.
06:55:36 THOSE ARE MY FEW WORDS FOR TWO HOURS.
06:55:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-30.
06:55:48 >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF,
06:56:08 FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-30.
06:56:10 IT IS A TEXT AMENDMENT FOR THE LAND USE POLICY 5.1.6,
06:56:17 RELATING TO THE FLOOR AREA RATIO BLENDING OF CENTRAL
06:56:22 VILLAGES IN THE CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICT.
06:56:25 TRANSMITTAL HEARING AND THE AMENDMENT WILL COME BACK BEFORE
06:56:28 YOU IN MAY.
06:56:28 THIS WAS PRIMARILY INITIATED.
06:56:31 AND THE POLICY WAS PREVIOUSLY AMENDED BY MUCH 231-01 THAT
06:56:40 EXPANDED BLENDING WITHIN A HALF MILE OF A URBAN VILLAGE.
06:56:44 WITH THE PROVISION, THE PROJECT IS APPROVED THROUGH A
06:56:46 PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT -- AND AT LEAST
06:56:51 ONE ACRE IN SIZE AND THE PROVISION CANNOT BE APPLIED TO
06:56:54 LANDS OUTSIDE THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
06:56:57 THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE WILL EXPAND THE PORTION THAT THE
06:57:02 WEIGHT OF DENSITY AND INTENSITY TO SITES THAT ARE LESS THAN
06:57:05 ONE ACRE WITH THE PROVISION THAT THE SITE MUST HAVE FRONTAGE
06:57:09 ALONG AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY.
06:57:11 THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IT KEPT WITH MULTIPLE ASPECTS
06:57:18 OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RELATING TO THE PROMOTION OF
06:57:22 THE COMPACT CITY FORM STRATEGY FOR GREATER DENSITY AND
06:57:26 INTENSITY NEAR THE URBAN PLANNED VILLAGES AND WILL
06:57:30 STREAMLINE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY FROM FORM ENCOURAGED
06:57:34 BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:57:35 AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS THAT THE PROPOSED
06:57:40 TEXT AMENDMENT BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS,
06:57:43 OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
06:57:46 AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:57:48 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
06:57:49 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:57:52 >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU GO BACK, ALTERNATE ZONING THAT IS AT
06:57:55 LEAST ONE ACRE IN SIZE.
06:57:57 YOU SAY LESS THAN ONE ACRE.
06:57:58 I AM CON FUELED.
06:58:00 >>EMILY PHELAN: WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT OF IT -- PUT
06:58:03 THAT SLIDE BACK UP.
06:58:04 WITH THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY APPLY TO
06:58:10 LANDS THAT ARE LESS THAN ONE ACRE IN SIZE, BUT THEY HAVE TO
06:58:13 HAVE FRONTAGE ON AN ARTERIAL ROADWAY.
06:58:17 CURRENTLY, THE POLICY.
06:58:26 >> YEAH, EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS IN OUR TEXT AMENDMENT
06:58:31 LANGUAGE.
06:58:32 >>EMILY PHELAN: RIGHT, THAT IS HOW THE LANGUAGE IS PROPOSED.
06:58:36 SO THIS IS -- THIS POLICY RIGHT HERE, THAT IS HOW IT IS
06:58:51 CURRENTLY ADOPTED.
06:58:53 AND IT IS RIGHT HERE.
06:58:54 IT HAS TO BE AT LEAST ONE ACRE IN SIZE.
06:58:57 WITH WHAT IS ADOPTED -- WHAT IS PROPOSED, IT WOULD HAVE TO
06:59:01 MAINTAIN --
06:59:03 >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, I SEE THE "OR" NOW.
06:59:06 THANK YOU.
06:59:07 THE "OR" IS THE PART THAT GOT ME.
06:59:11 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
06:59:15 THANK YOU.
06:59:16 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:59:30 TYLER HUDSON.
06:59:31 ADDRESS 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
06:59:34 APPLICANT FOR THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS TIM JOHNSON WHO IS
06:59:37 SITTING RIGHT HERE BEHIND ME.
06:59:39 WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP THE POWERPOINT FOR ITEM 3.
06:59:43 THANK YOU.
06:59:43 AS EMILY ALLUDED TO, THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TAX
06:59:48 AMENDMENT.
06:59:48 WE HAD A PRETTY ROBUST OF DISCUSSION ON THE MAP AMENDMENT
06:59:53 WHERE YOU ARE CHANGING THE COLORS ON THE PLAN.
06:59:55 THIS IS A TEXT AMENDMENT.
06:59:57 WHILE THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WALLS MOTIVATED BY A SPECIFIC
07:00:00 DEVELOPMENT, THIS HAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT APPROVAL CYCLE
07:00:03 THAN WHAT YOU ARE ACCUSTOMED TOO.
07:00:05 AS EMILY SAID, THIS IS A TRANSMITTAL HEARING.
07:00:08 BACK IN THE DAY, THE STATE HAD A MUCH HEAVIER AND IN LOCAL
07:00:12 LAND USE REGULATION AND THIS HAS BEEN ABANDONED AND HAVE IS
07:00:18 VESTIGE OF THAT.
07:00:18 TONIGHT IF YOU APPROVE THIS ITEM, YOU ARE TRANSMITTING IT TO
07:00:22 TALLAHASSEE TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
07:00:24 DON'T GET A SENSE THEY REALLY LOOK AT THIS TOO CLOSELY AND
07:00:29 IF YOU DON'T HEAR FROM THEM AFTER 30 DAYS, DEEMED THEY HAVE
07:00:32 NO COMMENT AND IT COMES BACK HERE FOR -- NOT A SECOND
07:00:35 READING BUT CALLED THE ADOPTION HEARING AND THAT'S IT.
07:00:37 YOU STILL HAVE TWO HEARINGS.
07:00:39 FIRST IS CALLED A TRANSMITTAL HEARING IS TODAY.
07:00:43 THE FOLKS IN TALLAHASSEE IN APRIL AND WILL COME BACK IN MAY.
07:00:47 IF YOU SEE BELOW IN THE DASHED LINE, I DO WANT TO SAY FOR
07:00:51 CONTEXT, THIS IS NOT AN IDEA THAT JUST CAME UP -- NOT LIKE A
07:00:56 SHOWER THOUGHT.
07:00:57 THIS WAS A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WAS FILED BECAUSE OF A
07:01:02 SPECIFIC PROJECT WITH A PD REZONING AND A MAP MAP AMENDMENT.
07:01:07 WE ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE OF THAT ITEM UNTIL APRIL SO ALL
07:01:10 OF THIS HOPEFULLY IF THE STAR ACE LINE, LINE UP IN MAY FOR
07:01:13 AN APPROVAL OF ALL THREE ITEMS.
07:01:16 IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR OF SCREEN ON SCREEN.
07:01:22 YOU SEE SOMETHING FAMILIAR GROUP OF RECTANGLES IN
07:01:27 PURPLE AND BROWN WHICH IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S
07:01:30 PREFERRED COLOR PALETTE.
07:01:32 IT CHANGES AT ROADWAY AND RIGHT-OF-WAYS AND MIDBLOCK ALONG
07:01:37 ALLEYS.
07:01:38 YOU DRIVE DOWN DALE MABRY, KENNEDY, HOWARD, NOT THE WHOLE
07:01:42 BLOCK THAT IS THE SAME COLOR AND STOPPED AT THE PLATTED
07:01:47 ALLEY.
07:01:47 WHAT YOU WILL HAVE IS A SITUATION WHERE THE REAR OF A BLOCK
07:01:52 MIGHT HAVE LOWER DENSITY.
07:01:53 IN THAT CASE SORT OF BROWN COLOR AND THE PURPLE SHADES
07:01:57 THEMSELVES, THAT IS ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD WILL HAVE A HIGHER
07:02:01 DENSITY.
07:02:01 IF THIS WERE IN THE COUNTY, ANYWHERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
07:02:04 YOU COULD ADD UP THE DIFFERENT COLORS OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS,
07:02:07 MOVE THEM AROUND THE SITE HOWEVER YOU WANT TO, BUT IN TAMPA,
07:02:10 IT IS PRETTY LIMITED THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHICH YOU CAN DO
07:02:14 THAT.
07:02:14 WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE
07:02:17 FLEXIBILITY WHICH I WILL HOPEFULLY GET TO AT THE END OF THIS
07:02:21 WE THINK MAKES SENSE AS GOOD POLICY AND THIS DID COME UP DUE
07:02:26 TO A SPECIFIC SITE.
07:02:27 AS ALLUDED TO THIS IS A SPECIFIC SITE.
07:02:30 THIS IS AN EXAMPLE.
07:02:32 AN EXAMPLE OF A PROJECT THAT THE TEXT AMENDMENT FILED AS A
07:02:35 RESULT OF IT.
07:02:35 NORTHEAST CORNER OF KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND TAMPANIA.
07:02:40 ONE PARCEL ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND OTHER SIDE OF THE ALLEY
07:02:45 TWO PARCELS ON NORTH A, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE ARMORY
07:02:49 GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:02:50 ADJACENT WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS NORTH HYDE PARK.
07:02:56 AS EMILY MENTIONED AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK NOTICED ABOUT THE
07:03:00 "OR."
07:03:01 CURRENTLY TWO WAYS TO DO THIS BLENDING.
07:03:03 IF YOU WERE IN ONE OF THE URBAN VILLAGES WHICH AREN'T.
07:03:07 YOU DIDN'T HEAR MUCH OF THE URBAN VILLAGES BUT LARGE BLOCKS
07:03:12 OF DISCERNIBLE NEIGHBORHOODS NEAR TAMPA HEIGHTS, YBOR CITY.
07:03:17 YOU CAN DO THE BLENDING IN URBAN VILLAGES AND ADD UP THE
07:03:20 DIFFERENT TYPES OF DENSITY AND MOVE THEM AROUND THE SITE
07:03:23 THROUGH A PD ZONING.
07:03:25 YOU CAN ONLY USE THIS THROUGH THE PD ZONING THAT COMES
07:03:29 BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
07:03:30 THE OTHER WAY IS WITH FOUR STANDARDS.
07:03:32 GOT TO BE IN A PD.
07:03:33 MEANING IT HAS TO COME TO YOU ALL.
07:03:35 THIS DOES NOT CREATE ANY BY RIGHT ENTITLEMENT.
07:03:40 THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
07:03:43 AND HALF A MILE OF URBAN VILLAGE AND THE PROJECT HAS TO BE
07:03:48 GREATER THAN ONE ACRE.
07:03:49 AS YOU WILL CONTINUE TO SEE AS COUNCIL, CHALLENGING TO FIND
07:03:53 DEVELOPMENT SITES THAT HAVE THE PERFECT ENTITLEMENTS WHERE
07:03:58 EVERYBODY IS WELCOMING WHATEVER THE NEW USE IS.
07:04:01 THE RIGHT SHAPE.
07:04:03 NO TREES.
07:04:03 AS TAMPA GROWS, IT IS GETTING HARDER -- I SHOULD SAY THE
07:04:08 LAND AVAILABLE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IF IT IS JUST A SURFACE
07:04:12 PARKING LOT WILL HAVE SOMETHING LITTLE WRONG WITH IT.
07:04:15 OF A WEIRD SHAPE AND A WEIRD TITLE ISSUE AND MIGHT BE AN
07:04:20 ACRE.
07:04:21 A PRETTY GOOD PIECE OF LAND FOR BEING NEAR THE CITY.
07:04:25 SO AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS?
07:04:28 HYPOTHETICAL PROJECT, 2517 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, YOU WOULD HAVE
07:04:33 TO DEVELOP THE DENSITY FROM THE BROWN PARTS ON THE BROWN
07:04:37 PARTS.
07:04:37 AND YOU WILL HAVE TO USE THE DENSITY FROM THE PINK PARTS TO
07:04:41 THE PINK PARTS.
07:04:42 NO WAY TO SHIFT THE ENTIRE BUILDING ON TO KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
07:04:45 BECAUSE THIS SITE IS NOT ONE ACRE.
07:04:47 WE HAVE MET -- AND TIM WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THIS.
07:04:51 WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING.
07:04:54 TIM IS THE OWNER OF A WINE STORE IN NORTH HYDE PARK CALLED
07:04:57 BOTTLE SMITH.
07:04:58 WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING.
07:05:00 WHAT IS FAIRLY CLEAR THAT THE NEIGHBORS DID NOT WANT THESE
07:05:04 NORTH A PARCELS DEVELOPED.
07:05:06 YOU CAN DO FOUR TOWN HOMES THERE NOW OR FIVE.
07:05:10 THEY WANTED THE DENSITY SHIFTED AWAY.
07:05:12 THEY WANT IT ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD, WHICH MAKES SENSE.
07:05:16 KENNEDY BOULEVARD SAN ARTERIAL OF ROAD, A MIXED USE CORRIDOR
07:05:21 AND TYPE OF HIGH OF TRAFFIC STREET TO HAVE MORE TOLERABLE
07:05:24 BUILDING THAN ON NORTH A.
07:05:26 THAT IS WHY WE FILED THIS TEXT AMENDMENT.
07:05:28 WE FILED THIS TEXT AMENDMENT SO THAT THIS PROJECT -- AND IT
07:05:32 IS GOING TO BENEFIT OTHER PROJECTS.
07:05:33 I WILL SAY THAT THERE HAS BEEN A FEW DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT
07:05:37 WE ALMOST FILED SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
07:05:38 AND THIS WILL CONTINUE TO GET FIELD BECAUSE IT IS A NEED FOR
07:05:43 GREATER FLEXIBILITY AND WE THINK THERE IS A LOT OF
07:05:45 ACCOUNTABILITY WITH IT.
07:05:46 HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
07:05:49 NUMBER 1-3 IS EXACTLY WHAT THE CODE SAYS.
07:05:53 NO CHANGE TO THAT.
07:05:54 THE FOURTH CRITERIA, INSTEAD OF A PROJECT ONE ACRE WHICH IS
07:05:58 A LITTLE LARGER THAT YOU ARE GOING TO FIND FOR URBAN INFILL
07:06:03 SITES, THE --
07:06:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HUDSON -- CAN WE HAVE QUIET IN CHAMBERS
07:06:13 PLEASE.
07:06:13 THANK YOU.
07:06:14 >> ONE THROUGH THREE YOU ARE SEEING ON THE SCREEN IS THE
07:06:19 CODE AS STANDARD AS IS.
07:06:21 NUMBER FOUR, IT NEEDS TO BE GREATER THAN AN ACRE.
07:06:25 IF THE SITE IS NOT AN ACRE AND ON AN ARTERIAL ROAD TAKE
07:06:33 ADVANTAGE OF THIS FLEXIBILITY.
07:06:35 NO ONE CAN GO TO THE PERMIT OFFICE AND GET EVERYTHING THEY
07:06:39 CAN TODAY.
07:06:39 IT WILL HAVE TO COME TO YOU FOR NEW REZONINGS.
07:06:41 WE THINK ALLOWING THIS FLEXIBILITY ON ARTERIAL ROADS MAKES
07:06:46 ESSENTIALS BECAUSE THOSE ARE -- THE ARTERIAL ROAD FRONTING
07:06:50 PARCELS ARE THE ONES THAT YOU HAVE A VERY SMALL SITE TO
07:06:53 MAKES SENSE TO DO MORE DENSITY AND WITH THIS PROVISION YOU
07:06:58 ARE ABLE TO PUSH IT ON AN ARTERIAL ROAD.
07:07:01 WHAT IS AN ARTERIAL ROLLED?
07:07:03 NOT MANY OF THEM.
07:07:04 I DO NOT KNOW -- PERHAPS MR. BENSON CAN ANSWER A
07:07:08 QUANTITATIVE THEY SHALL HOLD IN THE AMOUNT OF TRIMS THAT
07:07:12 MAKES IT AN ARTERIAL ROAD, THE LARGEST ROADS AND HEAVILY
07:07:17 TRAFFICKED ROAD.
07:07:18 FOR THE MOST PART, I DON'T THINK THIS COUNCIL WILL BE SHOCKED
07:07:21 BY IF SOMEONE BROUGHT TO FOUR, FIVE, SIX-STORY BUILDING IN
07:07:26 THE ROADS WHERE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DENSITY ON
07:07:29 THAT ROAD AND IN THE REAR, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:07:32 A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NORTH A AND KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND I
07:07:35 THINK THE ARMORY GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD AGREE WITH
07:07:38 THAT.
07:07:38 WHAT WE ARE SEEKING THROUGH THE TEXT AMENDMENT TO SHERIFF'S
07:07:43 DEPARTMENT, AS AN EXAMPLE, THE BUILDINGS THAT CAN GO ON A
07:07:46 PLACE LIKE NORTH A JUST ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
07:07:49 NOT JUST US THAT DESIRES THAT IN THE CASE OF THE
07:07:53 APPLICATION, BUT IT IS ALSO THE DESIRE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:07:56 WORTH NOTING, I TALKED TO LARRY ABOUT THIS AND I HAD
07:08:00 SURPRISE ABOUT TEXT AMENDMENT THAT I DIDN'T THINK THE
07:08:03 SCRUTINY, DAVIS ISLAND, HARBOUR ISLAND, THERE ARE NO
07:08:08 ARTERIAL ROADS ON THOSE ISLANDS.
07:08:11 YOU CAN ACTUALLY ALREADY DO THIS ON DAVIS ISLAND BECAUSE IT
07:08:16 IS AN URBAN VILLAGE.
07:08:17 I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL WHAT TYPES OF ROADS YOU ARE TALKING
07:08:20 ABOUT.
07:08:20 THE GREATEST SAFEGUARD OF ALL OF THIS ARE ONLY NEW PDs ARE
07:08:25 ALLOWED TO UTILIZE THIS.
07:08:26 I KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF FATIGUE ABOUT PDs AND I WOULDN'T SAYS
07:08:32 IT JUST ON ONE SIDE OF THIS PODIUM.
07:08:34 THEY HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY, PDs BUT DO NOT HAVE
07:08:38 FLEXIBILITIES FOR THIS.
07:08:39 FOR A SITE FOR THE PURPLE AND BROWN TRE ANGELS, THE SITE ON
07:08:44 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DO BUILDING IN
07:08:48 THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND A LITTLE ELEMENTARIES THAN WHAT IS
07:08:52 'APPROPRIATE 1998 ON KENNEDY.
07:08:55 WE BELIEVE IT IS REASONABLE.
07:08:57 NOT ONLY US, PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APRIL APPROVAL.
07:09:01 AND PLANNING.
07:09:02 RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AND CITY PLANNING IS HERE -- I DON'T
07:09:07 WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM BUT I UNDERSTAND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY
07:09:09 OBJECTION -- I WOULD LIKE TO BRIEFLY TURN IT OVER TO TIM WHO
07:09:13 CAN TALK PERSONALLY WHAT HE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS WHERE
07:09:15 THEY DO AND DON'T WANT A BUILDING.
07:09:17 >> GOOD EVENING, TIM JOHNSON FOR THE RECORD.
07:09:26 SO THIS IS, I THINK, IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY AS WE CONTINUE
07:09:31 TO GROW.
07:09:31 THE LARGE HER SITES BECOME LESS ABUNDANT.
07:09:34 WITHOUT THE FLEXIBILITY THIS WILL PROVIDE, IT REALLY
07:09:39 BIFURCATES THE DEVELOPMENT INTO A LARGER SITES THAT CAN
07:09:42 CAPTURE ALL THE DENSITY AND SMALLER SITES THAT CAN'T.
07:09:45 THE SMALLER SITES -- THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SMALLER SITES ON
07:09:49 ARTERIAL ROADWAYS THAT WILL BENEFIT FROM KEEPING THE DENSITY
07:09:54 ON THOSE ROADWAYS THAT ARE MORE COMMERCIAL IN NATURE AND
07:09:56 TAKING IT OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE BEHIND OR
07:09:59 SURROUNDED BY ARTERIAL ROADWAYS.
07:10:05 I MET WITH THE ARMORY GARDENS AND NORTH HYDE PARK ALLIANCE.
07:10:08 AND I MET FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS A FEW WEEKS AGO AND TALKED
07:10:12 THROUGH THIS.
07:10:12 WE ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT ANY MUCH SPECIFIC PD
07:10:16 REZONING, BUT TO SPECIFICALLY TALK AND FOCUS ON THE TEXT
07:10:22 AMENDMENT AND FLEXIBILITY FOR POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR
07:10:25 THESE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS WITHIN THE CITY.
07:10:28 >> I NEGLECTED TO SAY THIS AT OUTSET, BUT WE HAVE LETTERS
07:10:38 OF SUPPORT I BELIEVE WERE E-MAILED NATE SIEGEL, GRANT
07:10:43 PETERSON, CHRIS BUTLER AND KEN COWER WHO ARE IMMEDIATE
07:10:49 RESIDENTS, PROPERTY OWNERS OR BUSINESS OWNERS IN THE AREA.
07:10:52 WITH THAT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
07:10:56 QUESTIONS.
07:10:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
07:11:00 COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:11:01 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
07:11:07 [INAUDIBLE]
07:11:08 -- THAT CAN DO THIS.
07:11:10 ON THE ARTERIAL ROADS.
07:11:13 >> SURE, IT -- A TOUGH WE DO ANSWER BECAUSE, AGAIN THERE ARE
07:11:18 ONLY APPLIES TO WHEN SOMEONE WOULD DRAW A SQUARE THAT IS
07:11:22 LESS THAN AN ACRE AND THEY HIT TWO COLORS.
07:11:26 IF YOU DRAW A SQUARE AND IT IS LESS THAN AN ACRE BUT ALL THE
07:11:30 SAME COLOR ON THE MAP, PINKISH-REDDISH COLOR, IT WOULDN'T
07:11:36 MATTER.
07:11:36 I THINK THE WAY YOU SEE THIS -- THE ONLY WAY, COUNCIL, THAT
07:11:40 YOU WILL SEE THIS UTILIZED IF SOMEONE COMES TO YOU AND SAYS
07:11:43 HERE IS MY SPECIFIC PLAN FOR WHERE I WANT TO USE IT HERE.
07:11:46 I MEAN A LOT OF THE ARTERIAL ROADS LIKE DALE MABRY AND
07:11:50 KENNEDY.
07:11:50 A LOT OF REALLY LARGE ACRE-PLUS SITES.
07:11:53 SO I CANDIDLY DON'T THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE THAT IS
07:11:57 BURNING UP SIRE WITH APPLICATIONS FOR IT, BUT I DO THINK IT
07:12:02 IS SOMEWHAT INEVITABLE CHANGE THE STAFF VIEW IT IS FAVORABLY
07:12:06 AND WE CERTAINLY KNOW WE NEED IT FOR THIS ONE PROJECT THAT
07:12:09 WE BELIEVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GETTING BEHIND.
07:12:10 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:12:13 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:12:15 >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THIS.
07:12:20 I THINK I UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT -- SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING,
07:12:25 YOU OWN THESE PARCELS.
07:12:27 YOU ARE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT SOMETHING THE DENSITY TOWARD
07:12:29 THE MAJOR ROAD.
07:12:32 BUT WHAT GOES BACK?
07:12:34 WHAT I AM THINKING OF -- AND I BELIEVE IT HAS BEEN 30 DAYS,
07:12:38 SO Y'ALL CAN -- CAN TELL ME IF I AM WRONG, BUT WE HAD THIS
07:12:42 -- WE HAD A PLAN ON KENNEDY THAT WE APPROVED A WHILE AGO
07:12:46 THAT HAD THE MAJOR -- THE MAJORITY OF THE DENSITY ON KENNEDY
07:12:51 AND IT STAIR-STEPPED DOWN.
07:12:53 IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT THIS WILL ALLOW?
07:12:58 >> IT WOULD.
07:12:58 TAMPA REALLY ALLOW ANY CONFIGURATION.
07:13:01 IN ALL CANDOR, IT WILL ALLOW SOMEONE TO SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO
07:13:04 THE BACK.
07:13:04 THE SAFEGUARD AGAINST THAT WILL BE THE PD REZONING AND I
07:13:09 DON'T THINK THAT GO WELL UNLESS A GRAND TREE AND -- THE WAY
07:13:15 TO THINK ABOUT THIS AND TEXT AMENDMENTS CAN BE -- IN ONE
07:13:22 AREA THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS FLUID.
07:13:24 YOU CAN PUSH IT AROUND THE BIG TREE AND TO THE WEST AND
07:13:28 EAST.
07:13:28 SITES THAT ARE AN ACRE AND ON AN ARTERIAL.
07:13:41 THAT MAKES SENSE.
07:13:42 I DON'T WANT TO CROSS-CONTAMINATE THINGS, THEORETICALLY,
07:13:46 SOMEONE CAN PUT THE ENTIRE BUILDING ON THE KENNEDY PARCEL
07:13:50 AND NOT PUT ANY BUILDINGS ON BE A NORTH A PARCEL AT ALL.
07:13:55 ALLOW THE FLEXIBILITY FOR SOMEONE ON THE PD TO PRESENT TO
07:13:59 THE COUNCIL WHATEVER CONFIGURATION OF DENSITY IS DESIRED.
07:14:04 RIGHT NOW IT IS TRAPPED.
07:14:05 IF LESS THAN AN ACRE TRAPPED ON THE INTERIOR OF THE
07:14:09 NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL WE ARE ASKING THAT PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE
07:14:12 THE ABILITY TO ASK COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL OF A SITE OF THAT
07:14:16 SHIFTS IT TOWARD -- SHIFTS IT IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
07:14:20 >> I THINK I KNOW WHAT SITUATION YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
07:14:26 THE WAY THIS IS ADDRESSED RIGHT NOW, THEY ASKED FOR A PLAN
07:14:30 AMENDMENT FOR THE BACK PART AND INCREASED THE ENTITLEMENT
07:14:34 ACROSS THE BOARD.
07:14:35 THIS AMENDMENT IS PROPOSING TO NOT EFFECTUATE THAT.
07:14:39 IT IS SAYING INSTEAD OF MAKING THE WHOLE SITE HOMOGENEOUS
07:14:45 AND GET A PLAN AMENDMENT FOR SOMETHING YOU DON'T HAVE, IT IS
07:14:48 SAYING YOU CAN TAKE WHAT IS ALREADY THERE AND SHIFT IT TO
07:14:51 THE FRONT WITHOUT MAKING IT ALL CONSISTENT.
07:14:53 >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE GUESS THE QUESTION TO THE PUBLIC IS,
07:14:56 WHAT HAPPENS TO THE BACK.
07:14:57 IS THAT JUST PARK SPACE.
07:14:58 OR LOWER DENSITY.
07:15:00 IDEALLY THE WAY PEOPLE WOULD USE THIS IS PUSHING THE DENSITY
07:15:04 -- LIKE THE HIGHER DENSITY AND KEEPING THE LOWER DENSITY
07:15:07 CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
07:15:08 THAT IS WHY I WAS USING THAT ONE AS AN EXAMPLE BECAUSE A
07:15:11 GREAT EXAMPLE OF HAVING BOTH COMBINING OF MULTIPLE PARCELS.
07:15:24 HIGHER BUILDING TO THE FRONT AND STAIR STEPPING DOWN TO THE
07:15:27 BACK.
07:15:27 IN THEORY, THIS IS WHAT WOULD BE ENCOURAGED.
07:15:30 >> SURE, TO USE THE EXAMPLE OF THE PINK AND BROWN RECTANGLES
07:15:35 ON SCREEN.
07:15:36 PIECE ON NORTH A AND ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD 20,000 SQUARE
07:15:42 FEET.
07:15:43 A DEVELOPER RIGHT NOW CAN DO 10,000 UP THERE AND 20,000 ON
07:15:46 KENNEDY.
07:15:48 THIS WILL ALLOW A DEVELOPER TO PUT 3,000 SQUARE FEET ON
07:15:51 KENNEDY AND NOTHING.
07:15:52 NO SQUARE FOOTAGE AT ALL.
07:15:54 BECAUSE COMP PLAN GIVES YOU -- MY KIDS ARE INTO PLAY-DOH.
07:15:59 THE STUFF, THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS AND ZONING IMPLEMENTS IT.
07:16:04 THE HEIGHTS, THE MASS, THE SETBACKS AND ALL THAT.
07:16:07 IF SOMEBODY WAS TO USE THE PROVISION 30,000 SQUARE FEET
07:16:13 TOTAL.
07:16:19 >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
07:16:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
07:16:23 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:16:24 >>BILL CARLSON: A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
07:16:25 MR. HUDSON TALKED OF THE DEFINITION OF "ARTERIALS."
07:16:30 IS THERE A LEGAL DEFINITION AND WHAT ROADS ARE SPECIFICALLY
07:16:33 COVERED UNDER IT?
07:16:38 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSMIT THE PLANNING.
07:16:41 HIGHER VOLUME ROADWAYS.
07:16:46 >>BILL CARLSON: A SPECIFIC FINITE DEFINITION OF IT.
07:16:49 HE PRESENTED IT AND KIND OF VAGUE.
07:16:51 SOME ROADS CAN BE INCLUDED AND SOME NOT.
07:16:52 A SPECIFIC DEFINITION SO SOMEONE WILL KNOW SPECIFICALLY WHAT
07:16:57 ROADS ARE INCLUDED?
07:16:59 FOR EXAMPLE, DAVIS ISLAND BOULEVARD, SOMEONE MIGHT CONSIDER
07:17:02 IT AROUND ARTERIAL, BUT IF IT IS A STERN AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC
07:17:06 OR WHATEVER, MAYBE IT WOULDN'T.
07:17:07 >> THERE ARE DEFINITIONS, BUT THE CLASSIFICATIONS ARE SET BY
07:17:12 THE DEPARTMENT.
07:17:12 SO IT IS NOT, LIKE, DEFINED BY AT THAT CERTAIN PARAMETER.
07:17:18 >>BILL CARLSON: SET BY FDOT OR SOMETHING?
07:17:22 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: SET BY OUR MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, BY US.
07:17:25 WE DESIGNATE THE ROADS.
07:17:27 >>BILL CARLSON: YOU HAVE A MAP THAT SAYS THESE ARE THE
07:17:29 DEFINED ARTERIAL.
07:17:31 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: THAT'S CORRECT.
07:17:31 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IS THE PROCESS -- LET'S SAY THAT DAVIS
07:17:35 ISLAND BOULEVARD IS NOT DESIGNATED AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO
07:17:38 BUILD SOMETHING THERE AND THEY COME TO YOU AND SAME WE WANT
07:17:41 THAT DESIGNATED AS AN ARTERIAL.
07:17:45 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: TYPICALLY A PAYROLLS SES FOR THAT.
07:17:47 IT WOULD HAVE TO BE INITIATED BY OUR DEPARTMENT.
07:17:50 THERE WOULDN'T BE A PROCESS THAT SOMEONE CAN GO THROUGH AND
07:17:54 HAVE IT RECLASSIFIED.
07:17:55 IT WOULDN'T WORK THAT WAY.
07:17:56 >>BILL CARLSON: DOES THAT COME BEFORE COUNCIL OR NOT.
07:17:59 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: IT DOES NOT.
07:18:01 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF "ARTERIAL."
07:18:04 THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC?
07:18:07 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: THESE ARE THE HIGHER VOLUME ROADWAYS AND
07:18:11 CERTAIN VEHICLES PER HOUR.
07:18:12 >>BILL CARLSON: A CERTAIN NUMBER OF VEHICLES PER HOW THAT
07:18:15 CLASSIFY AN ARTERIAL.
07:18:17 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: GENERAL GUIDELINES AND I DON'T HAVE THEM
07:18:21 OFFHAND, BUT HIGHER VOLUME.
07:18:23 THEY HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS.
07:18:26 >>BILL CARLSON: OF WAY TOO VAGUE FOR ME.
07:18:30 THIS IS WHY I DON'T LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:18:33 ANYWAY.
07:18:34 I DON'T LIKE THINGS THAT ARE NOT SPECIFIC, BECAUSE IT LEAVES
07:18:38 IT TOO OPEN FOR INTERPRETATION.
07:18:40 WHAT IS AN ARTERIAL.
07:18:42 SOMEONE ONE DAY CAN SAY -- ANYWAY.
07:18:45 IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING.
07:18:46 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:18:49 >>LYNN HURTAK: WASN'T THERE A MAP OF THE ARTERIAL MODES?
07:18:53 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: YES, THERE IS A MAP.
07:18:54 >>LYNN HURTAK: DIDN'T HE HAVE ONE?
07:18:57 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: HE SHOW IT IN HIS PRESENTATION THAT HAVE
07:19:00 ALL THE DESIGNATION IN WHICH ROADS ARE -- THAT IS WHAT WE
07:19:03 ALL GO BY --
07:19:06 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. HUDSON, CAN YOU PUT THAT PACK UP.
07:19:10 >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. SCOTT, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE ADDED AN
07:19:16 ARTERIAL ROAD DESIGNATION?
07:19:19 >>JONATHAN SCOTT: WE GO THROUGH THOSE -- A PROCESS EVERY
07:19:22 COUPLE OF YEARS THEY ARE LOOKED AT AND UPDATED.
07:19:24 THE MOST RECENT UPDATE IS WHATEVER THE DATE ON THE MAP IT
07:19:29 THAT I WILL HAVE TO LOOK.
07:19:30 NOT RECENT.
07:19:32 >> IF CCTV CAN BRING UP THE MAP.
07:19:36 TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT, I KNOW THE COMP PLAN SEEMS
07:19:41 VAGUE AND CONCEPTUAL BY ITS NATURE, BUT NEVER AN INSTANCE
07:19:45 THAT THIS FLEXIBILITY UTILIZED IN A GENERAL WAY.
07:19:48 SOMEONE WILL BRING YOU A PLAN AND SAY THIS IS ON ONE, TWO,
07:19:52 THREE DALE MABRY AND WE ARE ADDING UP OUR RIGHTS.
07:19:55 IF SOMEONE PUTS ALL THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS BACK IN THE
07:19:59 NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY CAN ASK FOR THAT, BUT THAT IS NOT GOING
07:20:02 TO GET APPROVED.
07:20:03 IT IS CONCEPTUAL BY NATURE.
07:20:06 WE CAN'T MAKE THIS AS SPECIFIC -- WE THINK THIS IS A
07:20:10 FOUR-POINT PLAN THAT IS VERY SPECIFIC AND IMPORTANT TO NOTE,
07:20:13 SORRY, THIS WILL ONLY BE IMPLEMENTED BY A SPECIFIC P D+
07:20:18 REZONING.
07:20:19 THAT IS -- AND THIS IS REALLY -- FIRST I THINK SAY AS
07:20:23 SOMEONE WHO COMES BEFORE THIS COUNCIL FAIRLY OFTEN, IT IS --
07:20:27 I NEVER -- YOU CANNOT RECLASSIFY THESE ROADS.
07:20:30 WE TRIED.
07:20:31 CAN YOU SEE IT?
07:20:32 >>LYNN HURTAK: GO BACK ONE MORE.
07:20:34 THAT HAS THE LIST.
07:20:36 SORRY, THERE YOU GO.
07:20:37 A LITTLE TOUGH TO READ, BUT THE DARKER BLACK LINES.
07:20:41 >>STEPHEN BENSON: STEPHEN BENSON, CITY PLANNING.
07:20:44 FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION IS ESTABLISHED BY CODE IN CHAPTER
07:20:48 25.
07:20:48 TO CHANGE IT, IT WILL REQUIRE A CODE AMENDMENT.
07:20:51 >>BILL CARLSON: CHANGE IT TO AN ARTERIAL.
07:20:55 >>STEPHEN BENSON: CHANGE THE MAP, IT WILL HAVE TO COME
07:20:59 BEFORE YOU.
07:21:00 >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS MY POINT.
07:21:01 USUAL USUALLY IN SCIENCE OR ENGINEERING, SOMEONE WILL SAY
07:21:05 ARTERIAL IS 5,000 TRIPS PER HOUR.
07:21:07 A SPECIFIC CUTOFF.
07:21:09 SO A STUDY THAT HAD TO FIGURE OUT IS IT ABOVE 5,000 OR NOT.
07:21:13 WHATEVER THE CRITERIA IS.
07:21:15 REGARDLESS OF THAT, IT CAN BE UP -- THAT WE WOULD WORK.
07:21:20 THE DEFINITION WOULD BE TO FIEND -- THE DEFINITION OF THIS
07:21:24 CHANGE WILL BE DEFINED BY THIS MAP AND THE MAP HAS TO COME
07:21:27 BEFORE COUNCIL AND WE HAVE TO HEAR THE SYSTEM, BUT NO
07:21:31 STANDARD FOR --
07:21:35 >> THERE IS BUT NOT A SIMPLE STANDARD.
07:21:36 AN ENGINEERING FORMULA THAT SAYS WHAT ROADS QUALIFY OR NOT
07:21:44 QUALIFY.
07:21:44 IT WILL TAKE AN AMENDMENT TO ADD OR TAKE AN ARTERIAL OFF THE
07:21:49 MAP.
07:21:50 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU THINK IT IS ARBITRARY TO DECIDE WHAT
07:21:55 IS AN ARTERIAL OR NOT.
07:21:57 >> I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, BUT, YES, I BELIEVE SO.
07:22:00 >>JOSEPH CITRO: SIDE NOTE.
07:22:02 THE IRONY ALL THESE ROADS ARE EITHER COUNTY OR STATE ROADS.
07:22:06 WON'T IT BE GREAT IF THE COUNTY WILL GIVE US THE MONEY TO
07:22:10 REPAVE THOSE.
07:22:10 JUST A SIDE NOTE.
07:22:11 THANK YOU.
07:22:12 ANYTHING ELSE, MR. HUDSON?
07:22:21 >> NO, COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:22:24 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THIS,
07:22:27 ITEM NUMBER 3, OF FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-30.
07:22:31 A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:22:34 SECONDED BY.
07:22:37 A COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:22:39 FAVOR.
07:22:41 OPPOSED?
07:22:42 NOW MAKE YOUR MOTION.
07:22:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO TRANSMIT TO PUBLIC HEARING.
07:22:51 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
07:22:52 >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:22:54 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:22:55 ALL IN FAVOR -- ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:22:58 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE A STATEMENT FIRST?
07:23:01 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:23:02 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THE PUBLIC
07:23:05 IS SUFFICIENTLY PROTECTED WITH THE FACT THAT THE MAP WHICH
07:23:08 IS PART OF THE CRITERIA HAS IN TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL.
07:23:13 AND ALSO THESE ARE PDs THAT ALSO HAVE TO COME BEFORE
07:23:17 COUNCIL.
07:23:17 I WILL NOT OBJECT TO IT BASED ON THOSE GROUNDS.
07:23:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:23:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:23:27 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:23:29 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:23:30 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:23:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:23:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:23:36 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
07:23:40 >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THANK YOU.
07:23:44 FOR THE REST OF THE HEARINGS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK
07:23:46 PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO GIVE ANY TYPE OF TESTIMONY THIS
07:23:49 EVENING, WILL YOU PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN.
07:23:51 AND I AM GOING TO SWEAR EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM.
07:23:59 [SWEARING IN]
07:24:05 MR. HUSSEIN, YOU WERE SWORN IN.
07:24:20 GET MR. HUSSEIN SWORN IN RIGHT NOW.
07:24:24 [SWEARING IN]
07:24:29 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: I DO.
07:24:31 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE NO. REZ-22-107.
07:24:36 >>ANNIE BARNES: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, ANNIE BARNES, LAND
07:24:43 DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:24:43 THIS ITEM IS FILE NO. REZ-22-107.
07:24:48 1206 WEST LEMON STREET REZONE FROM RS-50 TO PD TO
07:24:54 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED USES.
07:24:56 I WILL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING
07:25:03 COMMISSION.
07:25:03 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:25:08 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
07:25:10 OUR FIRST REZONING OF THIS EVENING IS LOCATED WITHIN THE
07:25:13 CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICT, MOW SPECIFICALLY THE WEST TAMPA
07:25:18 URBAN VILLAGE.
07:25:19 THE CLOSEST TRANSIT IS LOCATED AT CYPRESS AND WILLOW.
07:25:24 THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION.FACILITY IS.
07:25:30 LANE RIVERFRONT PARK AND SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN 9
07:25:34 COASTAL PLANNING AREA AND WITHIN A LEVEL B EVACUATION ZONE.
07:25:39 WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE AERIAL.
07:25:42 THIS -- THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE IN THE CENTER.
07:25:47 THIS IS NORTH WILLOW AVENUE.
07:25:48 NORTH-SOUTH AND WEST CASS STREET ABOUT ONE BLOCK TO THE
07:25:52 SOUTH.
07:25:53 THIS IS THE JADE AT NORTH HYDE PARK, THE APARTMENT
07:25:58 COMMUNITY.
07:25:58 THIS AREA.
07:25:59 THERE IS SOME OFFICE.
07:26:01 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF THIS SIDE OF CASS.
07:26:05 THEN NORTH, PREDOMINANTLY NORTH OF WILLOW, NORTHWEST IS
07:26:13 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
07:26:14 AND THEN THERE ARE A MORE MIX OF SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND
07:26:19 TOWN HOMES AND MULTIFAMILY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
07:26:25 HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
07:26:31 THE SUBJECT SITE AND THIS BROWN COLOR IS ALL THE
07:26:35 RESIDENTIAL-35 FUTURE LANDS USE CATEGORY.
07:26:37 IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH ON WEST LEMON STREET, IT GOES DOWN
07:26:42 TO THE RESIDENTIAL-20.
07:26:43 THE LIGHT BROWN.
07:26:44 TO THE SOUTH ESPECIALLY, YOU HAVE GOT -- IN THIS PINK COLOR
07:26:50 IS THE GENERAL MIXED USE-24.
07:26:52 AND THEN WE DO HAVE SOME COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35, WHICH IS
07:26:56 MORE OF THE PINK COLOR.
07:26:57 AND THEN IT DOES GO DOWN TO UMU-60 EVEN FURTHER TO THE
07:27:03 SOUTH.
07:27:04 THE SUBJECT SITE, AGAIN, IS WITHIN THAT RESIDENTIAL-35.
07:27:10 THE DESIGNATION IS ENTITLED FOR MEDIUM-DENSITY USES
07:27:15 INCLUDING SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED AND MULTI FAMILY.
07:27:18 THIS PORTION OF WEST LEMON STREET BETWEEN WEST WILLOW AND
07:27:23 NORTH DELAWARE EXCLUDING THE SUBJECT SITE HAS EXISTING
07:27:27 DENSITY OF 9.6 UNITS PER ACRE BASED ON 111 SAMPLE SITES.
07:27:34 EXISTING DENSITY REPRESENTS 28% OF THE RESIDENTIAL-35 LAND
07:27:40 USE DESIGNATION.
07:27:41 THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENTS WILL ALLOW FOR 20 DWELLING UNITS
07:27:44 PER ACRE.
07:27:45 PROPOSED DENSITY IS 57% OF THE ANTICIPATED DENSITY UNDER THE
07:27:49 RESIDENTIAL-35.
07:27:50 TOY THIS MOST OF THE PARCELS ON THIS SEGMENT OF WEST LEMON
07:27:55 CONTAIN SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENTIAL USES, THE
07:27:58 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES ENCOURAGE MULTIFAMILY AND
07:28:02 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES WITHIN THAT RESIDENTIAL-35.
07:28:05 PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THAT THE PROPOSED REQUEST
07:28:08 WILL PROVIDE FOR A DEVELOPMENT THAT OF COMBATABLE WITH THAT
07:28:11 RESIDENTIAL-35 DES EGG NATION AND THE SURROUNDING AREA,
07:28:14 ESPECIALLY AS THE AREA SOUTH OF WEST CASS STREET HAS BEEN
07:28:18 TRANSITIONING TOWARD A MIXED USE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT
07:28:22 PATTERN.
07:28:22 THE REQUEST SUPPORT MANY OF THE POLICIES IN THE
07:28:25 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO THE HE POPULATION
07:28:30 GROWTH.
07:28:30 THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES A DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
07:28:33 CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPACT CITY FORM THAT ENCOURAGES INFILL
07:28:38 DEVELOPMENT.
07:28:38 BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
07:28:41 RECOMMENDS TO YOU THIS EVENING THAT THE PROPOSED PLAN
07:28:43 AMENDMENT BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE
07:28:45 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:28:47 THANK YOU, AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
07:28:52 DID I SAY PLAN AMENDMENT?
07:28:55 REZONING, SORRY.
07:28:56 I AM USED TO THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
07:29:03 >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:29:06 FILE NO. REZ-22-107 TO REZONE FROM RS-50 TO PD.
07:29:17 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THREE WAIVERS.
07:29:20 THE APPLICANT DOES PROPOSE TO DEMOLISH THE EXISTING
07:29:25 SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURE ON THE SITE.
07:29:26 SHOWN ON THE OVERHEAD HERE.
07:29:31 CONSTRUCT A TWO-STORY STRUCTURE WITH THREE RESIDENTIAL
07:29:35 SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS WITH ALL UNITS FACING WEST
07:29:42 LEMON STREET.
07:29:43 AND LET ME PROVIDE AN AERIAL MAP.
07:29:47 SHOWN HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
07:29:57 DIRECTLY EAST OF WILLOW AVENUE WITH LEMON STREET TO THE
07:30:02 NORTH.
07:30:04 THE SITE, AGAIN, IS LOCATED ALONG NORTH WILLOW AVENUE AND
07:30:10 WEST LEMON STREET.
07:30:11 PARKING -- THERE ARE SEVEN PARKING SPACES REQUIRED AND SEVEN
07:30:14 ARE PROPOSED.
07:30:15 SETBACKS PROPOSED ARE NORTH FIVE FEET, SOUTH 13 FEET, WEST,
07:30:23 10 FEET, ALTHOUGH A FAVOR TO REDUCE THE BLOCK AVERAGE OF 19
07:30:28 FEET.
07:30:28 AND EAST 14 FEET.
07:30:30 THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT,
07:30:37 AND OVERALL, THE DEVELOPMENT AND REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF
07:30:39 HAS REVIEWED THE PETITION AND FIND THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
07:30:44 PLEASE SEE -- REGARDING INFORMATION.WAIVER REQUESTED.
07:30:48 AND THAT WAIVER IS TO REDUCE AISLE WIDTH FROM 24 FEET TO 20
07:30:56 FEET.
07:30:56 ADDITIONALLY IF APPROVING THE APPLICATION, THE WORDING ON
07:31:01 WAIVER 1 FROM INCREASE NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO DECREASE IF
07:31:05 APPROVING THIS APPLICATION.
07:31:07 AND I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU -- SHOW YOU A FEW MORE PICTURES.
07:31:11 SO THIS IS THE ALLEY OFF OF LEMON THAT SERVES AS ACCESS FOR
07:31:16 THE SITE.
07:31:16 THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ALONG WILLOW.
07:31:27 PROPERTY WEST OF THE SITE ACROSS WILLOW.
07:31:35 PROPERTY NORTH OF THE SITE ACROSS LEMON.
07:31:42 PROPERTY SOUTH OF THE SITE ALONG WILLOW.
07:31:48 OF AND EAST OF THE SITE, THE CORNER OF NEWPORT AND LEMON
07:31:53 SHOWN HERE.
07:31:54 THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
07:31:56 I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
07:31:59 FAR.
07:32:02 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
07:32:05 THANK YOU.
07:32:05 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:32:18 I AM STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE STEVENS AND CLARK
07:32:23 FAMILIES THAT ARE SEATED BEHIND ME.
07:32:25 THEY WISH TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY TO ALLOW FOR A TOWN
07:32:32 HOUSE-STYLE DEVELOPMENT.
07:32:33 WE -- WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND ORIGINALLY THE
07:32:38 DRIVEWAYS WERE ORIENTED -- THE DRIVEWAYS WERE ORIENTED
07:32:46 TOWARD LEMON STREET.
07:32:47 WHEN WE WENT THROUGHO OUR REVIEWS AND YOU MAY REMEMBER A
07:32:52 MONTH OR SO BEFORE WHEN WE ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE, ARE IT
07:32:57 WAS TO RE-EVALUATE AND RE-ORIENT THE SITE SO WE CAN MEET THE
07:33:01 URBAN DESIGN CRITERIA.
07:33:04 WE FLIPPED THE SITE OVER, AND NOW THE ACCESS IT ON THE REAR
07:33:09 VIA ALLEY.
07:33:10 WE WILL HAVE TO IMPROVE THAT ALLEY TO CITY OF TAMPA
07:33:13 STANDARDS.
07:33:13 WE WILL ALSO HAVE TO BRING UP THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE WATER,
07:33:16 THE SEWER LINES AS WELL TO EFFECTIVELY ALLOW FOR THIS
07:33:23 DEVELOPMENT TO GO FORWARD.
07:33:24 SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO ALLOW FOR THREE TOWNHOUSES.
07:33:28 WE WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER THE
07:33:33 LAND USE CLASSIFICATION FOR FIVE UNITS.
07:33:36 WE ARE PROPOSING THREE UNITS.
07:33:37 WE FOUND THE -- THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS FOUND US TO BE
07:33:42 CONSISTENT SO THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD MOVE FORWARD.
07:33:45 THEY HAVE ALSO FOUND THAT THERE IS -- IN THE IMMEDIATE
07:33:49 PROXIMITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, THERE ARE OTHER MIXED USE
07:33:54 DEVELOPMENTS AND OTHER TOWN HOUSES, APARTMENTS, OFFICE USES
07:33:58 AND SOME HEAVY COMMERCIAL.
07:33:59 WE ARE REQUIRED TO FROM 208 SQUARE FEET OF GREEN SPACE
07:34:06 PROVIDING TO 1044 OF GREEN SPACE WHICH IS IN EXCESS NOW.
07:34:12 THAT IS PUSHING US TO ASK FOR WAIVERS ON THE SETBACKS;
07:34:17 HOWEVER, WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE MET THE INTENT OF THE CODE
07:34:21 AND EXCEED IT IN MANY RESPECTS.
07:34:23 ALL OF THESE WILL BE TWO-STORY UNITS WHICH THEY ALSO FOUND
07:34:28 TO BE COMPATIBLE.
07:34:29 THE RESIDENTIAL-35, I THINK, AS THE STAFF HAD MENTIONED,
07:34:35 WOULD ALLOW FOR SIX UNITS -- SORRY, WOULD ALLOW FOR FIVE
07:34:39 UNITS AND WE ARE PROPOSING THREE.
07:34:40 THE LOCATIONAL ISSUE REGARDING THIS, IT MEETS ALL OF THE
07:34:45 LOCATIONAL CRITERIA ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY IN THE LAND USE
07:34:50 PLAN.
07:34:50 THE STAFF IS OBJECTING TO THE REDUCTION IN THE DRIVE AISLE'S
07:34:56 FACE THAT WE REDUCED TO 20 FEET.
07:34:58 BUT THAT IS A FUNCTION OF US MEETING THE GENERAL SETBACK AND
07:35:03 THE -- AND THE ALIGNMENT OF THE OTHER HOMES ALONG LEMON
07:35:07 STREET SO THAT WHEN WE ALIGN IT, IT PUSHES IT BACK A LITTLE
07:35:10 BIT SO WE ARE NOT PROTRUDING OUT BEYOND WHAT THE NORMAL
07:35:15 SETBACK WILL BE FOR THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
07:35:19 SO WE REDUCED A NUMBER OF WAIVERS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED.
07:35:23 WE ARE NOW REQUESTING THREE WAIVERS.
07:35:26 AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE COME TO YOU WITH A MUCH BETTER
07:35:30 PRODUCT.
07:35:30 ONE THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH URBAN DESIGN AND THEY HAD NO
07:35:33 OBJECTIONS.
07:35:34 SO NOW WE ARE FACED WITH THE TRANSPORTATION OBJECTION WHICH
07:35:39 THEY NORMALLY OBJECT TO WHEN YOU REDUCE THE DRIVE AISLE
07:35:42 SPACES.
07:35:43 THIS BEING A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND LOW INTENSITY AND ONLY
07:35:47 FOR THESE UNITS, GENERALLY THAT IS ACCEPTABLE.
07:35:50 AND IT DOESN'T CREATE OFF-SITE PROBLEMS.
07:35:54 I THINK IF THAT WE -- YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GONE A LONG WAY.
07:35:59 I CAN READ ALL THE DIFFERENT CRY CRITERIA THAT WE HAVE MET
07:36:06 AN ESTABLISHED IN YOUR REPORT AS WELL.
07:36:08 UP WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR THAT TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED AND
07:36:11 MADE PART OF THE RECORD.
07:36:12 PROMOTE THE EFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE USE OF LAND USES AS A
07:36:19 INFRASTRUCTURE AND LONG PARAGRAPH THAT ESTABLISHES THAT,
07:36:22 27-136 PURPOSES.
07:36:24 ALLOW THE INTEGRATION OF DIFFERENT LAND USES AND DENSITY AND
07:36:29 ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
07:36:30 AN AREA DESIGNATED FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
07:36:33 IT IS ANTICIPATED THE R-35 CLEARLY DEMOCRAT STREETS THIS IS
07:36:38 ANTICIPATED TO BE A HIGHER DENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT AREA.
07:36:41 ENCOURAGE THE FLEXIBILITY LAND AND DEVELOPMENT SCALE BY
07:36:48 EXCEEDING THE GREEN SPACE.
07:36:49 WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF PROVIDING
07:36:53 THAT MORE SO THAN OTHERS THAT WE HAVE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU IN
07:36:57 THE PAST EMPLOYEE MOAT AND ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT
07:37:01 APPROPRIATE CHARACTER AND STEEL.
07:37:03 WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT.
07:37:04 THE HEIGHT IS LIMITED TO THE 35 FEET.
07:37:06 IT IS A TWO-STORY COMPLEX THAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
07:37:11 AND THE SITE PLAN DEMONSTRATES THAT.
07:37:14 I AM QUOTING NOW FROM THE CITY STAFF REPORT.
07:37:17 THE WAIVERS REQUESTED ARE MINIMAL AND PROPOSED USE IS
07:37:21 APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
07:37:25 WITH ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL USE THERE IS.
07:37:26 THIS IS ON PAGE 4 AND PAGE 5 OF YOUR STAFF REPORT.
07:37:31 PROMOTE THE MORE DESIRABLE LIVING AND ENVIRONMENT AND
07:37:36 WORKING CONDITIONS.
07:37:37 THIS IS VERY CLOSE TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
07:37:39 AS YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE A HOUSING DEMAND IN THE --
07:37:44 THROUGHOUT THE CITY, WE HAVE ANOTHER DEMAND IS ASSOCIATED
07:37:47 WITH THE ANNIVERSARY.
07:37:51 AND PROMOTE TECHNICAL FEATURES AND ELEMENTS THAT ARE
07:37:55 COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT EXCEED
07:37:59 ANY OF THE NORMAL HEIGHTS OF PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.
07:38:01 DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS UNIQUE AND THEREFORE
07:38:06 THE WAIVERS.
07:38:08 I MENTIONED TO YOU IF WE FLIP THE HOUSE SO AS THE ACCESS IS
07:38:15 THE REAR AND ALIGN IT THE FRONTS TO LEMON STREET FORCING US
07:38:22 TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE DRIVE AISLE.
07:38:25 20 FEET IS NOT COMPLETELY OUT OF LINE.
07:38:27 IT IS 23409 WHAT YOU WOULD CALL EXTREME.
07:38:30 THE WAIVER OF ALLOWED WOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF
07:38:36 OTHERS AND THOSE ARE AFFECT BY THIS WAIVER.
07:38:38 THE WAIVERS WE ARE REQUESTING AS THE STAFF REPORT SAYS ARE
07:38:42 MINIMAL AND ACCEPTABLE AND THEY ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE CODE
07:38:45 AS IT IS ALIGNED -- AS IT IS ESTABLISHED.
07:38:47 IT IS IN HARMONY AND SERVES THE INTENT AND GENERAL PURPOSES
07:38:52 OF THIS CHAPTER.
07:38:53 THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALREADY INDICATED IT WAS CONSISTENT
07:38:56 WITH THEIR PROVISIONS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:38:58 ALLOWING THE WAIVER WOULD RESULT IN SUBSTANTIAL JUSTICE
07:39:02 BEING DONE.
07:39:03 THE CLARK AND THE STEVENS FAMILY WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE ON.
07:39:07 THEY HAVE BEEN ANTICIPATING THIS REZONING FOR QUITE SOME
07:39:11 TIME.
07:39:11 AND THEY ARE VERY EAGER TO MOVE ON WITH THEIR LIVES.
07:39:14 I CAN GO THROUGH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE, AND LIST ALL OF THE
07:39:17 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVISIONS THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH,
07:39:22 INCLUDING LAND USE POLICY 5.1.4.
07:39:26 8.14.12.
07:39:28 9.2.1.
07:39:30 9.7.1, 9.7.3.
07:39:36 UNDER URBAN VILLAGES, 2.11.
07:39:39 9.6.1, 9.6.2, 9.6.3.
07:39:46 OTHER POLICIES 1.117, 1.118.
07:39:53 LAND USE POLICIES 2.12.
07:39:56 1.3.1.
07:39:58 1.3.3.
07:40:03 1.3.4 AND ALL IN YOUR STAFF REPORT AND I ASK TO RECEIVE AND
07:40:08 FILE AND MAKE THAT PART OF THE RECORD.
07:40:10 I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
07:40:12 AND WE WILL BE HAPPY TO -- WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT
07:40:18 HAVE.
07:40:18 I THINK I COVERED THE PROJECT.
07:40:19 >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:40:21 >>LYNN HURTAK: IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WENT THROUGH A LOT TO GET
07:40:24 TO THIS, BUT I WANT TO SAY, IF YOU CAN PUT THAT BACK UP.
07:40:27 THAT -- THAT THIS IS A GREAT DESIGN.
07:40:31 AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR MAKING SURE THAT IT IS FRONT
07:40:36 FACING, DRIVEWAY IN THE BACK.
07:40:38 SOME GREEN SPACE.
07:40:40 I THINK THIS IS A LOVELY DESIGN.
07:40:44 >> THANK YOU.
07:40:45 WE WORKED VERY HARD ON THIS TRYING TO BRING IT TO YOU IN
07:40:48 THIS CONFIGURATION.
07:40:50 AND, AGAIN, IN THE FUTURE, WE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO
07:40:54 LOOK AT SOME OF THE CODES BECAUSE WHEN WE ARE COMPATIBLE
07:40:56 WITH THE URBAN DESIGN OVERLAYS, IT BRINGS US NOT INTO
07:41:00 COMPLIANCE WITH OTHER CODES.
07:41:01 AND THOSE STUDIES ARE GOING ON NOW.
07:41:04 BUT WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AND CERTAINLY
07:41:07 WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
07:41:08 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
07:41:12 THANK YOU.
07:41:12 ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM,
07:41:20 FILE NO. REZ-22-107.
07:41:21 YES, SIR.
07:41:23 >> GOOD EVENING, ANDRE CLARK.
07:41:27 >> MELVIN STEVENS.
07:41:29 >> WE ARE --
07:41:30 >> THE OWNERS.
07:41:31 >> KIDS FROM MY MOM THAT HAD THE HOUSE.
07:41:34 THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE, THE TWO DIFFERENT
07:41:38 GENERATIONS.
07:41:39 MY PARENTS WERE THE TYPE OF PARENTS THAT -- ESPECIALLY
07:41:43 GRANDKIDS AND KIDS, THEY LOOKED OUT FOR.
07:41:46 THEY COULDN'T DO NOTHING BY THEMSELVES WITH JUST THEM TWO
07:41:50 LIVING THERE.
07:41:50 BUT MY -- MY FATHER LEFT THIS FOR US.
07:41:54 FOR US TO HAVE.
07:41:56 AND HE TOLD ME -- HE KNEW WHAT THE SITUATION WAS GOING TO
07:42:00 COME TO.
07:42:00 AND HE KNEW WHAT WE HAD TO DO.
07:42:02 AND HE TOLD ME BEFORE WE BREAK UP AS A FAMILY AND BEFORE WE
07:42:08 LOSE THE HOUSE, WE NEED TO SELL THE HOUSE.
07:42:10 NOW WE HAVE MEMORIES IN THAT HOUSE AND THE HOUSE HAS DONE
07:42:15 WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO -- HAVE DONE WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED
07:42:19 TO DO.
07:42:19 NOW IT IS TIME FOR US TO MOVE ON, TO PREPARE, BECAUSE THE
07:42:22 MONEY THAT WE GET WILL HELP US STRAIGHTEN OURSELVES OUT IN
07:42:26 LIFE MORE BETTER.
07:42:27 THE SITUATION WITH THE ECONOMY.
07:42:30 AND THERE IS TIME FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO ENJOY THAT PROPERTY.
07:42:36 AND WE ARE WILLING TO GIVE IT UP.
07:42:39 AND WE CAN GO CONTINUE WITH OUR LIVES.
07:42:41 AND THINGS THAT MAKE OUR LIVES BETTER.
07:42:44 AND WE WILL GIVE IT UP RIGHT NOW FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO HAVE
07:42:47 THAT HOUSE -- SPECIAL HOUSE -- THAT SPECIAL LAND RIGHT
07:42:52 THERE, BECAUSE IT IS A BEAUTIFUL LAND.
07:42:54 WHEN YOU STEP OUTSIDE, YOU HAVE SEE DOWNTOWN BUILDINGS,
07:42:57 RIVERFRONT PARK IS THREE BLOCKS UP.
07:43:00 U.T. IS THREE BLOCKS UP.
07:43:03 UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA IS THREE BLOCKS UP AND A MILE DOWNTOWN.
07:43:08 IT IS TIME FOR ANOTHER FAMILY TO ENJOY THAT SPOT.
07:43:11 AND WE ARE WILLING TO GIVE IT UP TONIGHT.
07:43:14 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:43:15 >> I AGREE WITH HIM.
07:43:19 [LAUGHTER]
07:43:21 Y'ALL HAVE A GREAT DAY AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:43:23 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:43:25 ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM?
07:43:29 DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
07:43:32 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:43:34 >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
07:43:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ST. MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:43:37 SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:43:38 ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:43:40 ANY OPPOSED?
07:43:42 MOTION PASSES.
07:43:43 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:43:44 >> CAN WE GO NOW?
07:43:52 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WAIT SECOND.
07:43:54 >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE NUMBER FIVE,
07:43:58 FILE FIVE.
07:44:01 ORDINANCE BEING READ FOR FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION
07:44:06 1206 WEST LEMON STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
07:44:09 PARTICULARILY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
07:44:11 CLASSIFICATION RS HADN'T 50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND PD
07:44:16 RESIDENTIAL ATTACHED.
07:44:19 PROVIDING REVISION SHEET AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS
07:44:24 CONSISTENT WITH POLICY 2.1.2 AND HOUSING POLICIES 1.3.1,
07:44:32 1.3.3 AND 1.3.4 WHICH ENCOURAGE NEW HOUSING ON VACANT OR
07:44:38 UNDERUTILIZED LANDS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S PRESENT AND
07:44:42 FUTURE POPULATIONS.
07:44:44 PROPOSED DENSITY 57% OF THE ANTICIPATED DENSITY UNDER THE --
07:44:49 SORRY THE R-35 DESIGNATION AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
07:44:54 HOUSING IN SLIGHTER HIGHER DENSITIES THAN THE SURROUNDING
07:44:57 AREA WHICH IS SUPPORTED BY LAND USE POLICIES 5.1.4, 8.1.416,
07:45:04 9.7.1 AND 9.7.3.
07:45:09 SITE HAS BEEN REDESIGNED TO HAVE VEHICULAR ACCESS TO THEAL
07:45:13 HE AND FRONT DOOR LIMITED TO LEMON STREET.
07:45:16 HEIGHT REDUCED FROM THREE STORIES TO TWO AND THE ROOF PITCH
07:45:20 HAS REDESIGNED.
07:45:21 ALL OF THE CHANGES IN THE SITE PLAN ENCOURAGE DEVELOPMENT
07:45:25 THAT IS APPROPRIATE IN COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
07:45:28 NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:45:29 THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS UNIQUE AND
07:45:31 THEREFORE IN NEED OF WAIVERS.
07:45:33 THE WAIVERS WILL NOT INTERFERE FOR INJURY THE RIGHTS OF
07:45:39 OTHERS OF PROPERTIES WHO WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE WAIVER.
07:45:41 >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:45:44 SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:45:45 ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:45:48 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:45:49 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:45:50 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:45:52 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:45:56 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:45:57 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:45:58 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
07:46:03 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HILL APRIL 6, 2023 AT
07:46:09 9:30 A.M.
07:46:11 >> THANK YOU.
07:46:12 >> THANK YOU ALL.
07:46:14 >> GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
07:46:16 I WANT MY MONEY.
07:46:17 >> HEY, IT'S MY 71th BIRTHDAY.
07:46:23 >>LYNN HURTAK: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
07:46:25 >> THANK YOU.
07:46:25 >> THE DATE OF THE SECOND READING IS WHAT?
07:46:29 APRIL 6?
07:46:30 THANK YOU.
07:46:31 >>CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON APRIL 6,
07:46:37 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
07:46:44 >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NO. REZ-22-34 .
07:46:47 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:46:53 IT WILL BE HARD TO FOLLOW THAT UP, BUT THIS IS A PROPOSED
07:46:58 REZONING FROM PD TO PD, PLACE OF RELIGIOUS JULES ASSEMBLY
07:47:02 AND DAY CARE AT LOCATION 6460 TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD AND PALS
07:47:07 IT ALONG TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
07:47:08 >>DAVID HEY: THANK YOU, DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
07:47:14 I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
07:47:16 WE WILL MOVE UP TO THE NEW TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS
07:47:20 NEXT CASE.
07:47:20 IT IS LOCATED IN A PART OF THE CITY THAT THERE IS NO TRANSIT
07:47:25 UP IN THIS PART OF TAMPA.
07:47:28 COMPTON PARK IS THE NEAREST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY.
07:47:32 UNDER THAT SUBURBAN MIXED USE 6, FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY,
07:47:37 FALLS UNDER THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR POLL SEEING.
07:47:39 SO THERE ARE SPECIFIC POLL SEAL DIRECTION WITHIN THE PLAN
07:47:43 REGARDING THOSE MIXED USE CATEGORIES AND IT IS NOT LOCATED
07:47:47 WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE.
07:47:48 HERE WE HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE.
07:47:52 OF COURSE IT IS RIGHT IN THE CENTER.
07:47:55 THIS IS TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD THAT SNAKES ITS WAY THROUGH.
07:47:58 IT IS ALL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED WITH SOME NATURAL
07:48:02 PRESERVATION AREAS SCAT SCATTERED THROUGHOUT AND THIS IS A
07:48:06 TECO EASEMENT THROUGH -- TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY.
07:48:09 HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
07:48:13 YOU CAN SEE ALL THAT PINK IS THAT SUBURBAN MIXED USE 6.
07:48:17 AND THE GREEN IS THE NATURAL PRESERVATION FUTURE LAND USE
07:48:21 CATEGORY.
07:48:21 AGAIN, IT IS UNDER THAT SMU-6.
07:48:27 THIS DESIGNATION IS TYPICALLY LOCATED NORTH OF FLETCHER
07:48:31 AVENUE AND SUPPORTS A MIXTURE OF HOUSING TYPES AND LIMITED
07:48:34 COMMERCIAL USES.
07:48:35 THE PD PROPOSES 0.09 F.A.R. WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 19% OF
07:48:43 THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IN THE SMU-6.
07:48:48 PLANNING COMMISSION FINDS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE SUBURBAN
07:48:52 DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ANTICIPATED IN THIS AREA OF THE CITY AND
07:48:55 PACED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AND THE POLICIES PROVIDED TO
07:48:59 NEW THE REPORT, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DOES FIND PROPOSED
07:49:02 PLAN DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE TAMPA
07:49:06 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:49:06 THANK YOU.
07:49:07 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:49:11 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:49:18 I WILL SHARE THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.
07:49:21 AS YOU SEE, THE PROPERTY OUTLINED HERE IN RED.
07:49:37 TO THE NORTH, YOU HAVE THE TECO POWER LINES.
07:49:40 TO THE WEST, SOUTH AND EAST, YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL
07:49:44 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
07:49:45 YOU ALSO HAVE STORMWATER PONDS ALSO TO THE SOUTHEAST.
07:49:50 IF YOU KEEP GOING DOWN TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD, YOU HAVE REACH
07:49:55 BRUCE B. DOWNS TO THE WEST.
07:49:57 I WILL NOW SHARE THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
07:50:04 THE PROPOSED REZONING IS FOR AN EXPANSION OF A CURRENT
07:50:22 REZONING REZ 20-05.
07:50:26 THE CURRENT REZONING OF RZ 20-05 IS PLACE OF RELIGIOUS
07:50:33 ASSEMBLY AND DAY CARE.
07:50:36 1396 SQUARE FEET AND THIS REZONING TO EXPAND THAT TO 12,500
07:50:46 SQUARE FEET AND ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING.
07:50:48 BUILDING AREA WILL BE TOTAL OF 15,896 SQUARE FEET.
07:50:53 TOTAL SITE AREA IS 166,802 SQUARE FEET.
07:50:59 VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE SITE COMES FROM THE SOUTH ON TAMPA
07:51:07 PALMS BOULEVARD.
07:51:07 THE PROPOSED PARKING IS REQUIRED TO HAVE 122 PARKING SPACES.
07:51:15 AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING 142 PARKING SPACES.
07:51:20 THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 35 FEET IN HEIGHT.
07:51:24 I WILL NOW SHOW THE ELEVATIONS PROCEEDED BY THE APPLICANT.
07:51:33 AS YOU SEE, THE ELEVATIONS FROM THE EAST.
07:51:41 ELEVATIONS FROM THE WEST.
07:51:47 ELEVATIONS FROM THE SOUTH.
07:51:52 AND THE ELEVATION FROM THE NORTH.
07:51:58 AS I WENT TO THE SITE AND TOOK PICTURES, I WILL SHOW YOU
07:52:05 WHAT I SAW.
07:52:06 I AM ON TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD RIGHT NOW AT THE ACCESS POINT.
07:52:20 YOU CAN SEE THE SIGN OF THE CHURCH AND THE PUBLIC NOTICE
07:52:24 SIGN.
07:52:25 I AM NOW ON THE PROPERTY OF THE PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY
07:52:35 AND YOU WILL SEE THE -- THE SIGN AND BUILDING THAT IS
07:52:41 CURRENTLY THERE.
07:52:42 AS I AM DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE BUILDING, YOU SEE A SIGN.
07:52:53 AND ALSO THE EXISTING STRUCTURES.
07:52:56 AS I LOOK SOUTH, YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL
07:53:08 SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED SUBURBIA NEIGHBORHOODS.
07:53:12 TO THE SOUTH.
07:53:14 AS YOU LOOK SOUTHWEST, YOU WILL SEE TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD
07:53:29 AND RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED ACROSS THE STREET.
07:53:32 AS YOU LOOK SOUTHEAST OF THE SITE, TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD, WE
07:53:48 HAVE A STORMWATER POND AND MORE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
07:53:51 DETACHED BEHIND THAT.
07:53:53 TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, YOU WILL SEE THE TECO POWER LINES.
07:54:05 THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TWO NEW WAIVERS.
07:54:15 THE FIRST IS THE REQUEST TO REMOVE ONE NONHAZARDOUS GRAND
07:54:19 LIVE OAK AND THE SECOND REQUEST IS TO ALLOW GRASS PARKING
07:54:23 AND GRASS DRIVE AISLES FOR THE PARKING LOTS.
07:54:26 THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
07:54:31 PETITION AND FINDS THE OVERALL REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE
07:54:37 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
07:54:38 IF THE CITY COUNCIL WILL APPROVE, THE APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE
07:54:42 REVISIONS TO THE REVISION SHEET BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
07:54:45 READING.
07:54:45 I'M HERE FOR ANY QUELLS.
07:54:47 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS.
07:54:49 MR. HUSSEIN, WE HAVE SEEN THAT PLOT OF LAND BEFORE, HAVEN'T
07:54:54 WE?
07:54:55 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: CORRECT.
07:54:55 A REZONING IN 2020, RZ-22-05.
07:55:04 >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU PUT THE SITE PLAN UP AGAIN, PLEASE.
07:55:06 THE REQUEST IS JUST FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE?
07:55:11 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: CORRECT, AN EXPANSION OF THE MAIN STRUCTURE
07:55:14 AND TO ADD ADDITIONAL PARKING.
07:55:16 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY, SO --
07:55:18 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: AS YOU SEE HERE --
07:55:20 >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO OTHER ADDITION TO THAT EXISTING AREA
07:55:24 THERE WHICH I BELIEVE IS FOR A -- FOR A DAY SCHOOL OR
07:55:29 SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
07:55:31 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: A PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY AND THE DAY
07:55:35 CARE.
07:55:35 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHERE IS THE GRASS PARKING GOING TO BE
07:55:38 LOCATED AT?
07:55:39 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: THE GRASS PARKING.
07:55:41 LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTH.
07:55:42 >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
07:55:47 SO NOT GOING TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS THEN?
07:55:51 FAR.
07:55:52 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: NO, SIR.
07:55:53 TO THE NORTH ARE TECO POWER LINES.
07:55:55 >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:55:56 ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
07:55:59 THANK YOU, MR. HUSSEIN.
07:56:00 >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: OF COURSE.
07:56:01 >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:56:09 WILLIAM MALLOY, 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD.
07:56:13 TAMPA, FLORIDA.
07:56:15 REPRESENTING LIFE SONG CHURCH FOR THE EXPANSION OF EXISTING
07:56:19 SANCTUARY AND DAY CARE.
07:56:20 I THINK STAFF PROVIDED ALL THE PARTICULARS.
07:56:22 I DON'T NEED TO PARROT ANY OF THAT.
07:56:25 SIMPLE EXPANSION OF THE INCH FACILITIES.
07:56:29 SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION WHAT IS THERE AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING
07:56:33 FOR, BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT IS ALLOWED AND WHAT WE ARE ASKING
07:56:36 FOR, 19% OF THE ALLOWABLE DENSITY.
07:56:38 A BEAUTIFUL SITE.
07:56:39 BEAUTIFUL LOT.
07:56:40 HEAVILY TREED.
07:56:41 I THINK THE GRASS PARKING IS MORE THAN APPROPRIATE.
07:56:44 I HOPE YOU CAN TELL THAT A BIT WITH THE PICTURES THAT FIT
07:56:47 WITH THE SITE NICELY.
07:56:48 AS TO THE WAIVERS, THERE IS THE PARKING AND DO UNFORTUNATELY
07:56:52 HAVE TO TAKE ONE TREE TO MAKE THE PLAN WORK.
07:56:54 I AM CERTAIN WE ARE DOING THE APPROPRIATE COMPENSATION FOR
07:56:57 THAT.
07:56:57 WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD WE HAVE NO KNOWN OPPOSITION
07:57:00 TO THIS CASE.
07:57:01 THE SIGN HAS BEEN UP FOR A WHILE.
07:57:03 WE HAVE FULL STAFF SUPPORT.
07:57:05 AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR REPORT AS WELL.
07:57:08 I HAVE THE PASTOR OF THE CHURCH WITH ME AND MY VERY
07:57:11 EXCELLENT PLANNER RYAN McCAFFREY IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
07:57:18 >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
07:57:22 ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
07:57:27 >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:57:28 >> SECOND.
07:57:29 >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:57:30 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:57:32 ALL IN FAVOR.
07:57:33 OPPOSED?
07:57:34 MOTION PASSES.
07:57:35 COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:57:36 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:57:38 ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 6406.
07:57:44 PALMS BOULEVARD PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN ZONING
07:57:47 CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLACE OF
07:57:50 RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY AND DAY CARE PROVIDING A IF HE CAN
07:57:54 TESTIFY DATE.
07:57:54 THE PETITIONER HAS SHOWN ABOVE AND BEYOND -- LET'S SEE --
07:57:59 ALL THE FACTS IN EVIDENCE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THIS.
07:58:02 AND THE CONSISTENCY AND THIS IS MY MOTION.
07:58:05 >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:58:08 SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:58:10 ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:58:11 >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:58:14 >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:58:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:58:19 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:58:21 >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:58:22 >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:58:25 >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
07:58:28 SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 6, 2023 AT
07:58:32 9:30 A.M.
7:58:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
7:58:34PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.
7:58:36PM FILE REZ 23-03.
7:58:39PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
7:58:42PM THIS IS A PROPOSED REZONING AT THE LOCATION 2019 AND 2023
7:58:47PM GORDON STREET.
7:58:48PM PROPOSED REZONING FROM RM-16 AND CG TO PD, RESIDENTIAL
7:58:53PM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
7:58:55PM I WILL NOW PASS ALONG TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
7:58:57PM >> DAVID HEY, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
7:59:02PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
7:59:05PM BACK DOWN TO THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT FOR THIS
7:59:09PM NEXT CASE.
7:59:10PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE PALMETTO BEACH
7:59:15PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
7:59:17PM DeSOTO PARK IS THE CLOSEST PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY.
7:59:21PM THERE IS NO TRANSIT WITHIN THE PALMETTO BEACH AREA.
7:59:25PM CLOSEST IS UP TOWARD YBOR.
7:59:27PM AND THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH
7:59:30PM HAZARD AREA.
7:59:31PM IT IS ALSO WITHIN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA.
7:59:34PM AND IT IS WITHIN A LEVEL A EVACUATION ZONE.
7:59:40PM ONTO THE AERIAL.
7:59:46PM WE HAVE 22ND STREET RIGHT HERE AND THEN GORDON STREET IS ON
7:59:49PM THE NORTH.
7:59:51PM 22ND STREET, THERE'S A MIXTURE OF SOME RESIDENTIAL,
7:59:55PM COMMERCIAL, HISTORIC KIND OF MAIN STREET, PALMETTO BEACH, SO
8:00:00PM THE PORT CONSTRUCTED AND IMPROVED 20th STREET.
8:00:06PM IT'S MULTI-RESIDENTIAL FROM 22ND STREET EAST, 22ND STREET
8:00:11PM WEST.
8:00:12PM IT'S A MIXTURE OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, RESIDENTIAL, YOU HAVE
8:00:16PM GOT WAREHOUSING, AND THEN YOU GO INTO THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL
8:00:19PM USES ON THE WEST SIDE OF 20th STREET.
8:00:25PM HERE WE HAVE THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
8:00:31PM THIS IS ONE OF THESE SITES THAT HAS TWO FUTURE LAND USE
8:00:34PM CATEGORIES.
8:00:35PM THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO IT ALONG SOUTH 22ND STREET IN THE
8:00:41PM PINK, THAT'S THAT COMMUNITY MIXED USE 75 THAT ALLOWS UP TO
8:00:45PM CG USES CONSIDERATION.
8:00:48PM THE RED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, THAT'S COMMERCIAL 35.
8:00:52PM THAT ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF UP TO COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE
8:00:55PM USES.
8:00:55PM YOU CAN SEE IT GOES QUICKLY DOWN TO A RESIDENTIAL 10
8:00:59PM PATTERN, IT'S TAN COLORED, EAST OF 22ND STREET, AND THEN
8:01:03PM THIS KIND OF REDDISH COLOR, THAT'S THE TRANSITIONAL USE 24
8:01:09PM CATEGORY.
8:01:09PM THAT'S A UNIQUE CATEGORY WITHIN THE CITY.
8:01:12PM THAT'S REALLY DESIGNATED FOR AREAS THAT PREDATED MODERN
8:01:17PM PLANNING, SO IT HAS QUITE A MIX OF USES FROM RESIDENTIAL,
8:01:23PM COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES.
8:01:25PM AND THEN ACROSS 20th, IN THAT COLOR IS THAT HEAVY
8:01:31PM INDUSTRIAL ASSOCIATED WITH THE PORT.
8:01:36PM AS DESCRIBED IN LAND USE POLICY 6.1.13, THE LANDS UNDER THE
8:01:40PM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION ARE CONSIDERED TO BE
8:01:43PM WITHIN THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR, SO THE MIXED USE CORRIDOR
8:01:46PM POLICIES DO APPLY TO THE SITE.
8:01:49PM THE PROPOSED PD DOES ALLOW FOR COMPATIBLE LOW MEDIUM SCALE
8:01:53PM DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL PROVIDE A SENSITIVE TRANSITION FROM
8:01:56PM THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES SOUTH AND EAST OF THE SITE TO THE
8:02:00PM SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNITS WEST OF THE SITE.
8:02:03PM IT IS WITHIN THAT COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
8:02:06PM AGAIN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF
8:02:08PM TAMPA AND OTHER REGULATORY AGENCIES TO ENSURE THAT ANY
8:02:13PM RESIDENTIAL UNITS MITIGATE FOR THEIR IMPACTS ON SHELTER
8:02:16PM SPACE AND CONCLUSION, THE PROPOSED PD WILL PROVIDE NEW
8:02:19PM HOUSING ON UNDERUTILIZED LAND AND WILL PROVIDE COMPATIBLE
8:02:23PM IN-FILL DEVELOPMENT FOR THE PALMETTO BEACH NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:02:26PM SO BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AND THE POLICIES PROVIDED
8:02:29PM WITHIN THE REPORT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE
8:02:32PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE
8:02:34PM TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
8:02:36PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
8:02:38PM THANK YOU.
8:02:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
8:02:41PM THANK YOU, MR. HEY.
8:02:42PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:02:46PM I WILL SHARE THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY FIRST.
8:02:54PM AS YOU SEE, THE PROPERTY IS HERE OUTLINED IN RED TO THE
8:02:58PM EAST.
8:02:59PM SOUTH 22ND STREET.
8:03:01PM TO THE WEST YOU WILL HAVE SOUTH 20th STREET.
8:03:06PM TO THE NORTH YOU WILL HAVE GRANT STREET.
8:03:09PM AND TO THE SOUTH YOU WILL HAVE DAVIS STREET.
8:03:13PM AND FURTHER TO THE WEST YOU WILL HAVE THE BAY AND THEN
8:03:17PM CHANNELSIDE THAT RUNS INTO DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
8:03:29PM I WILL NOW SHOW THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
8:03:38PM THE PROPOSED REZONING IS FOR NINE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
8:03:43PM ATTACHED UNITS.
8:03:46PM AS YOU SEE THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS, TWO CONTINUOUS UNITS AND
8:03:50PM THEN SIX CONTINUOUS UNITS HERE IN THE SECOND BUILDING.
8:03:54PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS CURRENTLY VACANT AT THIS TIME.
8:03:59PM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON A NORTHEAST CORNER OF 22ND STREET
8:04:03PM AND GORDON STREET.
8:04:07PM 22ND AND GORDON.
8:04:10PM THE SUBJECT SITE CONTAINS A LOT AREA OF 16,741 SQUARE FEET.
8:04:19PM THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROPOSED FOR THREE FLOORS AT 35 FEET
8:04:24PM IN HEIGHT.
8:04:26PM A TOTAL OF 20 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND THE APPLICANT
8:04:30PM IS PROVIDING 20 PARKING SPACES.
8:04:33PM VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE SITE FOR THE UNITS AS PROVIDED FROM
8:04:37PM ALLEY TO THE SOUTH WHICH COMES OFF 22ND STREET, AS YOU SEE,
8:04:41PM 22ND STREET, AND THEN THE ALLEY TO THE SOUTH, FOR ACCESS TO
8:04:47PM THE SITE.
8:04:47PM SO IT'S TWO CARS PER UNIT.
8:04:50PM AND THEN ALSO THERE ARE TWO SPOTS RIGHT HERE, SERVICE SPOTS
8:04:56PM BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.
8:05:01PM I WILL NOW SHOW YOU THE ELEVATIONS PROVIDED BY THE
8:05:04PM APPLICANT.
8:05:16PM AS YOU SEE, THE ELEVATION TO THE SOUTH.
8:05:24PM NORTH.
8:05:29PM WEST.
8:05:34PM AND EAST.
8:05:52PM THEN THE ELEVATION TO THE SOUTH.
8:05:54PM AS I WEPT ON SITE FOR PICTURES I WILL SHOW YOU WHAT I SAW.
8:06:05PM 22ND, YOU CAN SEE THE TWO PUBLIC ROAD SIGNS.
8:06:08PM AND BEHIND THAT IS THE SITE, VACANT AT THIS TIME.
8:06:20PM AS I LOOKED OVER THE FENCE, YOU WILL HAVE THE VACANT SITE.
8:06:34PM AND A LITTLE FURTHER TO THE WEST ANOTHER VIEW OF THE VACANT
8:06:39PM SITE.
8:06:49PM LOOKING ACROSS 22ND YOU WILL SEE A WAREHOUSE TO THE EAST.
8:07:03PM LOOKING TO THE WEST, YOU WILL HAVE RESIDENTIAL HOMES UP AND
8:07:07PM DOWN THE WEST OF GORDON.
8:07:11PM ALSO KEEP GOING WEST YOU WILL HAVE THE BAY.
8:07:24PM TO THE SOUTH YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER WAREHOUSE.
8:07:38PM ANOTHER VIEW TO THE SOUTH ALONG 22ND STREET HERE.
8:07:42PM YOU HAVE THE WAREHOUSE TO YOUR RIGHT.
8:07:44PM AND YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL HOMES DOWN 22ND.
8:07:56PM AT THE INTERSECTION HERE OF 22ND AND DAVIS, YOU WILL HAVE
8:07:59PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED HOMES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE
8:08:03PM WITH THE PROPOSED CASE.
8:08:10PM TO THE NORTH YOU WILL HAVE MORE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
8:08:18PM HOMES.
8:08:20PM AND DIRECTLY NORTH YOU WILL HAVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
8:08:28PM HOMES.
8:08:35PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ONE WAIVER, AND THAT'S TO
8:08:37PM REQUEST TO REDUCE THE 8-FOOT REQUIRED VUA BUFFER ALONG 22ND
8:08:43PM STREET TO THREE FEET.
8:08:46PM DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE
8:08:48PM PETITION AND FINDS THE OVERALL REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH
8:08:51PM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
8:08:53PM SHOULD IT BE THE PLEASURE OF CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE
8:08:55PM APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT MUST PROVIDE REVISIONS TO THE
8:08:58PM REVISION SHEET BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
8:09:01PM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
8:09:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS?
8:09:04PM THANK YOU, MR. HUSAIN.
8:09:08PM >>ZAIN HUSAIN: THANK YOU.
8:09:11PM >> RALPH SCHULER, 2401 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
8:09:19PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
8:09:21PM SO PALMETTO BEACH TRANSITIONAL AREA OF MANY DIFFERENT USES.
8:09:28PM OBVIOUSLY PREDATED ZONING.
8:09:32PM WE HAVE JUST AROUND THIS PARTICULAR SITE COMMERCIAL,
8:09:36PM INDUSTRIAL, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL, ALL
8:09:41PM SCATTERED WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY.
8:09:44PM THIS PROJECT, WHICH IS OF COURSE A VACANT LOT, THINKS THAT
8:09:50PM THIS WILL IMPROVE THE AREA, BRING IN NEEDED HOUSING STOCK TO
8:09:53PM THE AREA, AND PROVIDE A QUALITY PROJECT THAT OUR CLIENT MR.
8:10:00PM GARCIA, HE'S DONE MANY OTHER PROJECTS IN THIS CITY, AND THIS
8:10:08PM PROJECT WOULD BE AGAIN REALLY TWO BUILDINGS, AND THE NATURE
8:10:14PM OF THAT IS REALLY BECAUSE OF THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
8:10:18PM THIS LAND USE DESIGNATION WHICH IS THE CMU-35, AND THEN THE
8:10:23PM CURRENT NOT PLATTED LOT OF TRANSITIONAL USE 24.
8:10:28PM SO WE GET TWO 3-STORY BUILDINGS.
8:10:33PM MAINLY BECAUSE OF COURSE WE ARE IN AN EVACUATION ZONE, AND
8:10:40PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD NOT SUPPORT ANY UPZONING, OF
8:10:43PM COURSE, AND WE ARE USING THE EXISTING LAND USE DESIGNATION.
8:10:49PM THE FIRST FLOOR IS ACTUALLY JUST ALL STORAGE BETWEEN CARS
8:10:53PM AND REGULAR STORAGE, FEMA WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO DO THAT SO
8:11:00PM ALL THE LIVING IS DONE ON THE SECOND AND FLOOR THIRD FLOOR.
8:11:03PM SO WE THINK THIS IS A SMART AND COMPATIBLE WAY TO BRING IN
8:11:08PM IN-FILL INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT BADLY NEEDS IT, BUT IT'S
8:11:14PM ALSO IN AN A ZONE.
8:11:18PM AS MR. HUSAIN SUGGESTED, THERE ARE OTHER COMPATIBLE
8:11:22PM DEVELOPMENTS NEARBY.
8:11:26PM OUR DEVELOPMENT, I THINK, WILL FIT VERY NICELY INTO THE
8:11:29PM OVERALL FABRIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:11:35PM I WARRANT TO QUICKLY ADDRESS OUR ONE WAIVER.
8:11:37PM OUR ONE WAIVER IS REALLY ON 22ND STREET, WHICH IS TYPICALLY
8:11:42PM FOR HISTORICALLY A COMMERCIAL STREET, SO WE FELT COMFORTABLE
8:11:48PM BUILDING A BUILDING CLOSER TO THE STREET, WHICH IS MORE IN
8:11:52PM KEEPING WITH THE NORMAL PATTERN OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
8:11:57PM AND THEN ALSO IF YOU SEE HERE, WE WOULD IMPROVE THAT
8:12:02PM SIDEWALK TO A LARGER SIDEWALK, BUT CURRENTLY OUR PROPERTY
8:12:08PM LINE STARTS HERE SO WE ARE REALLY GOING TO PROVIDE AT LEAST
8:12:11PM EIGHT OR NINE FEET OF BUFFER.
8:12:14PM IT'S GOING TO BE ON OUR SITE.
8:12:16PM PART OF IT IS GOING TO BE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BUT IT WILL BE
8:12:19PM IMPROVED AND NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
8:12:22PM SO WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO OUR
8:12:28PM AMENDMENTS AS REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, AND
8:12:31PM WE LOOK FORWARD TO APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT.
8:12:36PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
8:12:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS?
8:12:41PM THANK YOU.
8:12:43PM IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
8:12:48PM ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE REZ 23-03?
8:12:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
8:12:55PM >> SECOND.
8:12:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO,
8:12:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:13:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:13:00PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
8:13:02PM MOTION PASSES.
8:13:03PM COUNCIL HURTAK.
8:13:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE REZ 23-03, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR
8:13:09PM FIRST READING CONSIDERS, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN
8:13:12PM THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2019 AND 2023 GORDON STREET IN THE
8:13:16PM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
8:13:19PM SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS RM-16
8:13:23PM RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, AND CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL, TO PD,
8:13:28PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED,
8:13:32PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE, ALONG WITH THE REVISION SHEET,
8:13:37PM AND FINDING THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH
8:13:42PM LAND USE POLICIES 2.1.2 AND HOUSING POLICIES 1.3.1 AND 1.3.4
8:13:49PM WHICH ENCOURAGES COMPATIBLE IN-FILL DEVELOPMENT ON VACANT
8:13:53PM AND UNDERUTILIZED LAND AND COMPLIANCE WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT
8:13:57PM CODE SECTION 27-136, THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS SHOWN
8:14:02PM ON THE SITE PLAN PROMOTES AND ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS
8:14:05PM APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION, CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH
8:14:08PM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:14:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
8:14:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:14:14PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:14:17PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
8:14:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:14:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:14:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:14:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:14:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:14:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
8:14:30PM >> MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
8:14:35PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 6th,
8:14:38PM 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
8:14:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU ARE ALSO HERE FOR THE OTHER TWO?
8:14:50PM OKAY.
8:14:51PM I WAS LOOKING AT THE AUDIENCE.
8:14:53PM MR. HUSAIN SAYING, YEAH.
8:14:57PM [ LAUGHTER ]
8:15:00PM SO I JUST ASKED.
8:15:03PM ARE YOU HERE FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9 OR 10?
8:15:07PM >> FOR 23-09, I BELIEVE THAT IS.
8:15:20PM IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE ONLINE
8:15:23PM VIRTUALLY SO BEFORE I BEGIN I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT.
8:15:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
8:15:28PM THANK YOU FOR ASKING FOR THAT CONFIRMATION.
8:15:32PM IS THE APPLICANT THERE?
8:15:35PM OKAY.
8:15:35PM >> THIS IS THE DEPUTY CITY CLERK.
8:15:49PM I DO NOT HAVE THE APPLICANT REGISTERED FOR NUMBER 9 OR
8:15:52PM NUMBER 8.
8:15:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NUMBER 9.
8:15:59PM >>THE CLERK: OKAY.
8:16:00PM GIVE ME ONE MOMENT.
8:16:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
8:16:20PM THERE'S TWO PETITIONERS?
8:16:25PM >>THE CLERK: THEY ARE ONLINE.
8:16:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM SEEING SOMEONE BUT I AM WONDERING
8:16:28PM WHETHER THEY ARE THE PETITIONERS OR THE ONES TO SPEAK
8:16:30PM AGAINST.
8:16:31PM LET'S OPEN THE CASE ANYWAYS JUST TO SEE.
8:16:33PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9.
8:16:35PM FILE REZ 23-09.
8:16:38PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:16:42PM THIS IS REZ 23-09.
8:16:44PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM
8:16:47PM RM-16 TO CM.
8:16:50PM I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
8:16:53PM >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
8:16:58PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
8:17:00PM WE MOVE, STAY IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT FOR
8:17:05PM THIS NEXT CASE.
8:17:06PM THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE NORTH HYDE PARK
8:17:09PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:17:11PM WEST PINES PARK IS THE CLOSEST RECREATION FACILITY.
8:17:14PM IT'S ABOUT ONE FOURTH OF A MILE NORTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT
8:17:16PM SITE.
8:17:17PM NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE IS A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
8:17:21PM THERE IS TRANSIT.
8:17:24PM HART ROUTE 14 SERVES THAT CORRIDOR.
8:17:27PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE C.
8:17:31PM ONTO THE AERIAL.
8:17:35PM AGAIN, THIS IS ARMENIA.
8:17:38PM THIS IS NORTH B.
8:17:40PM THIS IS THE GLAZER COMMUNITY CENTER.
8:17:44PM AND THERE'S SOME MIX OF RESIDENTIAL.
8:17:47PM THERE'S SOME TOWNHOMES.
8:17:48PM OFFICES AND COMMERCIAL USES TO THE SOUTH.
8:17:56PM MOVE ONTO THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
8:17:58PM THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALL THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT IN THE
8:18:00PM BROWN ARE THAT RESIDENTIAL 20 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
8:18:04PM IT DOES INTENSIFY AS WE GET OVER TO HOWARD AVENUE INTO THAT
8:18:08PM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
8:18:13PM THE SUBJECT SITE, SINCE IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THAT
8:18:16PM RESIDENTIAL 20, THE COMMERCIAL, IT NEEDS TO MEET COMMERCIAL
8:18:24PM LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
8:18:26PM SINCE THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON ARMENIA, PLANNING COMMISSION
8:18:32PM STAFF FOUND THAT THE SITE DOES MEET THE CRITERIA AS OUTLINED
8:18:35PM IN LAND USE POLICY 8.14.2.
8:18:39PM IT IS LOCATED WITHIN AN URBAN VILLAGE, AND THERE'S SPECIFIC
8:18:46PM POLICY DIRECTION FOR THAT IN THE PLAN.
8:18:48PM SO BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS AND THE POLICIES PROVIDED
8:18:51PM TO YOU IN THE REPORT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS
8:18:54PM THE PROPOSED REZONING CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE
8:18:56PM TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
8:18:58PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
8:19:01PM THANK YOU.
8:19:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
8:19:03PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:19:12PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE 2323 WEST NORTH B STREET FROM RM-16
8:19:17PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO CM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:19:22PM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER, IN THE RED,
8:19:31PM NORTHEAST CORNER OF WEST NORTH B STREET AND NORTH ARMENIA
8:19:37PM AVENUE, COMPRISED OF LOT 7 OF SUBDIVISION PLATTED IN 1907.
8:19:41PM PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THE SITE IS EITHER ZONED RM-18,
8:19:45PM RM-16, OR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPED WITH A
8:19:49PM COMMERCIAL USE, COMMERCIAL USES.
8:19:52PM THE REQUEST TO REZONE TO CM IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING
8:19:57PM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND GENERAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA.
8:20:00PM BECAUSE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ABUTS NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE, IT
8:20:04PM PROVIDES A BUFFER TO THE RM-16 PROPERTIES RM-16 ZONED
8:20:10PM PROPERTIES TO THE EAST.
8:20:12PM SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY,
8:20:16PM AND IF APPROVED, CM ZONING ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL USES SUCH
8:20:21PM AS A CLINIC, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, RESTAURANT, OR
8:20:25PM RETAIL SALES.
8:20:27PM ALTHOUGH THE SUBJECT LOT DOES NOT MEET MINIMUM LOT WIDTH, IT
8:20:33PM IS A PLATTED LOT IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY AND THEREFORE CAN
8:20:39PM BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS REZONING.
8:20:41PM STAFF THEREFORE FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT.
8:20:45PM AND I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE.
8:20:49PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE FACING EAST FROM NORTH ARMENIA
8:20:54PM AVENUE.
8:20:55PM THIS IS THE SITE FACING NORTH, WEST, NORTH B STREET.
8:21:04PM THIS IS FACING NORTH ALONG NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE.
8:21:12PM PROPERTY DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE AGAIN ALONG
8:21:16PM NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE.
8:21:18PM FACING SOUTH.
8:21:21PM FURTHER SOUTH ALONG NORTH ARMENIA.
8:21:26PM AND THIS IS PROPERTY DIRECTLY EAST ON WEST NORTH B STREET.
8:21:32PM AND THEN PROPERTY DIRECTLY WEST OF THE SITE ACROSS ARMENIA
8:21:37PM AVENUE.
8:21:38PM AND YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE IN THE PICTURE.
8:21:41PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
8:21:42PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
8:21:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. BARNES?
8:21:49PM THANK YOU.
8:21:50PM MR. SHELBY?
8:21:54PM OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND TO BE TRANSPARENT, THIS
8:21:57PM PROPERTY WAS RENTED OUT BY A FORMER GIRLFRIEND OF MINE.
8:22:02PM I HAVE NEVER MET THE OWNERS, SO I AM JUST WANTING TO LET
8:22:08PM EVERYBODY KNOW THAT I HAVE HAD NO COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE
8:22:10PM OWNERS AT ALL.
8:22:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
8:22:16PM [ LAUGHTER ]
8:22:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CRYSTAL CLEAR TO
8:22:20PM EVERYONE.
8:22:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WILL YOU BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL?
8:22:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OF COURSE I CAN.
8:22:29PM [ LAUGHTER ]
8:22:32PM YES, OF COURSE I WILL BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.
8:22:35PM I HAVE NEVER MET THE OWNERS.
8:22:40PM APPLICANTS, ARE YOU ONLINE?
8:22:47PM YOU ARE BOTH MUTED.
8:22:48PM >> I OWN THE PROPERTY JOINTLY.
8:22:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES, LADIES, LADIES, WHAT I NEED FOR YOU
8:22:57PM TO DO IS RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
8:23:02PM BOTH OF YOU LADIES.
8:23:06PM THERE YOU GO.
8:23:06PM I SEE YOUR HAND NOW.
8:23:08PM THERE YOU GO.
8:23:08PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE
8:23:13PM ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
8:23:16PM >> I DO.
8:23:19PM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
8:23:20PM YOU MAY LOWER YOUR HAND.
8:23:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW MS. RUSSO AND MS. JUDGE, WHEN YOU
8:23:24PM SPEAK, CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD?
8:23:28PM MS. RUSSO, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
8:23:29PM >> I'M SHIRLEY RUSSO.
8:23:32PM AND I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 2323 NORTH B WITH MY SISTER, LAURA
8:23:40PM JONES.
8:23:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. JONES, YOU ARE MUTED.
8:23:44PM >> YOU ARE MUTED.
8:23:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. RUSSO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START THE
8:23:53PM CONVERSATION ON THE REASON WHY YOU WANT THIS CHANGE?
8:23:56PM >> WELL, THE PROPERTY IS BOARDED ON BOTH SIDES BY
8:24:03PM COMMERCIAL.
8:24:03PM IT HAS A SHOP IN FRONT OF IT, IT HAS A LAWYER'S OFFICE IN
8:24:09PM BACK OF IT, ARMENIA HAS BECOME QUITE COMMERCIAL IN THE
8:24:15PM BUSINESSES THAT'S ON THE STREET.
8:24:17PM AND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT CHANGED FROM
8:24:23PM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
8:24:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
8:24:28PM AND MS. JONES, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?
8:24:31PM >> NO, SIR.
8:24:36PM BUT CAN YOU STILL NOT HEAR ME?
8:24:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
8:24:39PM THANK YOU, MS. JONES.
8:24:40PM >> OKAY.
8:24:41PM THANK YOU.
8:24:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. RUSSO, DOES THIS END YOUR PRESENTATION?
8:24:45PM >> YES.
8:24:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:24:48PM ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. RUSSO OR MRS. JONES?
8:24:54PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO
8:24:57PM THIS?
8:24:57PM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS?
8:24:59PM SEEING NONE, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES,
8:25:04PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:25:06PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:25:07PM ANY OPPOSED?
8:25:08PM MOTION PASSES.
8:25:08PM I BELIEVE IT IS COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:25:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
8:25:18PM FILE REZ 23-09.
8:25:22PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERS, AN
8:25:24PM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2323
8:25:28PM WEST NORTH B STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
8:25:30PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
8:25:32PM CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO CN
8:25:35PM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
8:25:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
8:25:41PM >> MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:25:43PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:25:55PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, DID YOU WANT TO ELABORATE MORE ON YOUR
8:25:58PM FINDINGS, JUST FOR THE RECORD?
8:26:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME GET TO THE RIGHT ONE.
8:26:09PM ALL RIGHT.
8:26:17PM THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT WILL ALLOW FOR COMPATIBLE
8:26:22PM DEVELOPMENT FOR THE REQUIRE SOUNDING AREA AND WILL NOT ALTER
8:26:25PM THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA ACCORDING TO LAND USE POLICY
8:26:30PM 1.2.8.
8:26:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:26:32PM WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:26:35PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:26:37PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
8:26:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:26:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:26:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:26:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:26:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:26:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
8:26:49PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
8:26:53PM VOTE.
8:26:54PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 6th,
8:26:58PM 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
8:27:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:27:02PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.
8:27:03PM THANK YOU, LADIES.
8:27:06PM >> THANK YOU.
8:27:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10.
8:27:09PM FILE REZ 23-11.
8:27:11PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:27:15PM ITEM NUMBER 10 IS REZ 23-11.
8:27:19PM THE REQUEST IS REZONE PROPERTY FROM CC COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO
8:27:22PM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR MEDICAL OFFICE.
8:27:25PM I WILL TURN OVER THE PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING
8:27:27PM COMMISSION.
8:27:27PM >>DAVID HEY: PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
8:27:33PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
8:27:34PM WE END THE NIGHT IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT,
8:27:37PM MORE SPECIFICALLY THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE.
8:27:41PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR AS
8:27:45PM DEFINED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
8:27:53PM THERE IS TRANSIT ON NORTH HOWARD AVENUE AND THE SUBJECT SITE
8:27:55PM IS LOCATED WITHIN AN EVACUATION ZONE C.
8:28:00PM ONTO THE AERIAL.
8:28:03PM JUST TO THE EAST OF WHERE WE WERE IN THE LAST CASE, WHICH
8:28:07PM WAS OVER HERE, AND NOW THIS IS HOWARD AVENUE, AND THIS IS
8:28:11PM NORTH A STREET TO THE SOUTH, NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, THE
8:28:21PM TD BANK AT THE CORNER OF HOWARD AND KENNEDY, THERE IS MOSTLY
8:28:25PM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED UP HERE, THERE ARE SOME DUPLEXES AND
8:28:29PM SOME MISSING MIDDLE MULTIFAMILY, ALSO LOCATED ON NORTH B.
8:28:43PM BASICALLY SURROUNDING IT ARE ALL IN THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE
8:28:46PM 35 FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
8:28:49PM IT GETS MORE INTENSIVE DOWN AT KENNEDY.
8:28:51PM THIS IS THE URBAN MIXED USE 60.
8:28:53PM AND THEN TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, THAT'S THE
8:28:56PM RESIDENTIAL 20.
8:28:58PM FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY.
8:29:00PM IN THAT BROWN COLOR.
8:29:03PM THE PD PROPOSES A .3 F.A.R. WHICH IS BELOW THE ALLOWED
8:29:08PM F.A.R.
8:29:08PM THE SITE CAN BE CONSIDERED UNDER THAT COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
8:29:12PM DESIGNATION.
8:29:13PM THAT GOES UP TO A 2 F.A.R. IS THE MAXIMUM.
8:29:17PM THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR.
8:29:22PM THE BUILDING DESIGN HAS IMPLEMENTED A NUMBER OF THE POLICY
8:29:27PM DIRECTIONS FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO CREATE A MORE
8:29:30PM URBAN CHARACTER.
8:29:32PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF DOES FIND THAT THE REQUEST
8:29:35PM WILL NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND IS
8:29:40PM COMPATIBLE AND COMPARABLE WITH THIS PORTION OF THE WEST
8:29:42PM TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE, AND BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE
8:29:46PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED PLANNED
8:29:48PM DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE TAMPA
8:29:51PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
8:29:53PM THAT'S IT FOR ME.
8:29:54PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
8:29:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
8:29:59PM THANK YOU.
8:29:59PM >>ANNIE BARNES: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:30:03PM AGAIN, THIS REQUEST IS REZ 23-11, REZONE FROM CG TO PD FOR A
8:30:08PM MEDICAL OFFICE.
8:30:09PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ONE WAIVER TO REDUCE THE UA
8:30:15PM BUFFER.
8:30:15PM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 214 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.
8:30:19PM SUBJECT SITE ABOUT 2-POINT ACRES AND IS LOCATED SOUTH
8:30:27PM SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH HOWARD AVENUE,
8:30:29PM NORTHWEST -- WEST NORTH B STREET --
8:30:33PM YOU ARE UPSIDE DOWN.
8:30:36PM >>ANNIE BARNES: YOU CAN'T READ THAT?
8:30:38PM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
8:30:40PM ALL RIGHT.
8:30:42PM GLAD WE CAUGHT THAT.
8:30:44PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROXIMATELY A 2250 SQUARE FOOT
8:30:49PM BUILDING FOR MEDICAL OFFICE, PRINCIPAL BUILDING SETBACK AS
8:30:52PM FOLLOWS, WEST 74 FEET, SOUTH 3 FEET, NORTH 3 FEET AND EAST 3
8:30:57PM FEET.
8:30:57PM PROPOSED MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 20 FEET.
8:31:01PM 14 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND PROVIDED.
8:31:05PM VEHICULAR INGRESS AND EGRESS IS PROVIDED VIA ALLEY FROM
8:31:09PM NORTH HOWARD AVENUE, AND AGAIN THIS IS WHERE THAT DUA BUFFER
8:31:14PM IS REQUESTED ADJACENT TO THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
8:31:18PM OVERALL, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION STAFF FINDS THE PROPOSED
8:31:25PM MEDICAL OFFICE USES SIMILAR IN NATURE TO THE EXISTING
8:31:28PM DEVELOPMENT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
8:31:31PM OVERALL, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF DID FIND IT INCONSISTENT
8:31:36PM BASED ON NATURAL RESOURCES REQUESTED WAIVER.
8:31:41PM HOWEVER, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION ACKNOWLEDGES THAT ALLEY IS
8:31:46PM HISTORICALLY HIDE THE UNATTRACTIVE FUNCTIONS OF SOCIETY, SO
8:31:51PM WHETHER IT BE SOLID WASTE REMOVAL, SO ESSENTIALLY THE USE IS
8:32:03PM APPROPRIATE BASED ON THE SURROUNDING ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT
8:32:10PM PATTERN.
8:32:13PM AND I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU A PICTURE.
8:32:15PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE FACING WEST FROM NORTH HOWARD
8:32:19PM AVENUE.
8:32:22PM THIS IS THE ALLEY DIRECTLY NORTH FACING TOWARDS HOWARD AT
8:32:27PM THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
8:32:29PM THIS IS PROPERTY EAST OF THE SITE DIRECTLY ACROSS NORTH
8:32:33PM HOWARD AVENUE.
8:32:36PM AS YOU CAN SEE MEDICAL AND BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
8:32:39PM PROPERTY SHOWN SOUTH AND WEST OF THE SITE AS WELL.
8:32:43PM SO HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
8:32:45PM PROPERTY SOUTH.
8:32:46PM AND THEN AGAIN THAT SAME KIND OF MEDICAL COMPLEX OR BUSINESS
8:32:52PM OFFICE COMPLEX.
8:32:53PM AND THIS IS PROPERTY DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE SITE.
8:32:58PM AND JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERALL IDEA, THERE WAS A PLANNED
8:33:04PM DEVELOPMENT PD SITE PLAN BOTH AT THE BUILDING AS WELL AS THE
8:33:15PM ELEVATIONS.
8:33:19PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
8:33:21PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
8:33:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
8:33:35PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:33:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS ALREADY COMMERCIAL GENERAL, IS --
8:33:42PM ISN'T A MEDICAL OFFICE ALREADY ALLOWED UNDER THIS?
8:33:45PM >>ANNIE BARNES: THAT IS CORRECT.
8:33:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M CONFUSED AS TO WHY THEY NEED A PD.
8:33:52PM >>ANNIE BARNES: THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT WAIVER.
8:33:57PM PERHAPS THE APPLICANT CAN ENLIGHTEN A LITTLE MORE.
8:34:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
8:34:02PM SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF WORK.
8:34:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
8:34:07PM PETITIONER.
8:34:08PM >> RALPH SCHULER, 2401 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.
8:34:21PM SO SIMPLE LITTLE PROJECT.
8:34:25PM COMMERCIAL.
8:34:27PM SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL.
8:34:30PM THE EXISTING BUILDING WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND A BRAND NEW
8:34:34PM SMALL MEDICAL OFFICE WHICH WOULD BE MUCH IMPROVED OVER THE
8:34:37PM CURRENTS CONDITION WOULD BE ESTABLISHED.
8:34:42PM WE WERE ENCOURAGED BY STAFF TO BE ABLE TO GET THE PARKING
8:34:46PM THAT WE NEEDED TO APPLY FOR A PD FOR THE SITE PLAN.
8:34:56PM ESSENTIALLY, THIS IS THE EXISTING ALLEY.
8:34:58PM WE WOULD IMPROVE THAT ALLEY.
8:35:00PM WE ARE USING THE ALLEY EXACTLY THE SAME WAY THE PROPERTY TO
8:35:03PM THE NORTH IS CURRENTLY USING IT WHICH IS PARKING FROM THE
8:35:07PM BEGINNING OF THE SITE ALL THE WAY BACK.
8:35:09PM WE WOULD OF COURSE HAVE OUR BRAND NEW BUILDING, DISGUISE ALL
8:35:14PM OF THE PARKING BEHIND THE BUILDING, AND WE WOULD PROVIDE ALL
8:35:20PM THE LEGAL PARKING SPACES, BUT WE WOULD USE THE ALLEY AS
8:35:27PM VEHICULAR TURNING INGRESS AND EGRESS ALLOWS.
8:35:32PM THE ONLY WAIVER WE ARE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR IS THIS WAIVER
8:35:35PM WHICH IS A PARKING WAIVER.
8:35:37PM CAN'T PROVIDE A BUFFER PARKING ON THE ALLEY WHICH IS AGAIN
8:35:40PM ALLOWED.
8:35:44PM IT PROVIDES AS MUCH GREEN SPACE AS POSSIBLE.
8:35:51PM BUT IT IS AN URBAN MIXED USE OR URBAN TYPE DEVELOPMENT
8:35:58PM THAT'S SURROUNDING AREAS, ALSO, HAVE SIMILAR MORE COMPATIBLE
8:36:03PM DENSITY.
8:36:04PM OF COURSE, OUR DENSITY IS VERY LOW, ONLY A 2200 SQUARE FOOT
8:36:09PM BUILDING.
8:36:09PM BUT THIS IS THE USE THAT THE OWNER WOULD LIKE TO USE IT FOR.
8:36:18PM PROVIDE ALL PARKING, WITHOUT ANY WAIVERS AT ALL, THERE WON'T
8:36:22PM BE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
8:36:26PM OUR BUILDING, A LITTLE FRONT PORCH, AGAIN TRIED TO BE KIND
8:36:33PM OF NEOTRADITIONAL, THE OTHER STRUCTURES UP AND DOWN HOWARD
8:36:40PM AVENUE, AND WE FEEL THAT IT'S A QUALITY PROJECT.
8:36:46PM AGAIN LOOKING AT THE ALLEY AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, WE WOULD
8:36:51PM THE ALLEY.
8:36:52PM YOU CAN SEE THE PARKINGS DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH.
8:36:57PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
8:36:59PM AND WE WOULD OF COURSE REMOVE THIS CURB CUT AND REDO THE
8:37:06PM SIDEWALK AND IMPROVE THE ALLEY.
8:37:10PM AND ALL OF OUR SOLID WASTE HAS BEEN APPROVED.
8:37:15PM EVERYONE FINDS THE PROJECT COMPATIBLE.
8:37:18PM THE ONLY ISSUES ARE NATURAL RESOURCES, AND I UNDERSTAND
8:37:21PM THEIR CONCERNS.
8:37:23PM BUT I THINK WE HAVE TRIED TO OVERCOME THEM THE BEST WE CAN,
8:37:28PM BUT THIS IS, I THINK, A MORE URBAN CONTEXTUAL SITE AND NOT
8:37:34PM SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PROVIDE ALL OF THAT GREEN SPACE.
8:37:37PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
8:37:39PM HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
8:37:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS OF PETITIONER?
8:37:44PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO
8:37:46PM SPEAK TO AGENDA 10, REZ 23-11?
8:37:51PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
8:37:52PM >> SECOND.
8:37:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA,
8:37:56PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:37:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:37:58PM OPPOSED?
8:37:59PM MOTION PASSES.
8:37:59PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:38:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE REZ 23-11.
8:38:05PM AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
8:38:07PM CONSIDERATION.
8:38:07PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
8:38:10PM 214 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA MORE
8:38:13PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
8:38:15PM CLASSIFICATION CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED
8:38:19PM DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
8:38:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
8:38:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT ALTER
8:38:28PM THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA, IS COMPATIBLE AND
8:38:31PM COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE
8:38:37PM POLICY 5.1.2 AND 5.1.4, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHOWN AS
8:38:42PM THE SITE PLAN PROMOTES AND ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THAT IS
8:38:46PM APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION, CHARACTER AND COMPATIBILITY WITH
8:38:48PM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:38:50PM PROPOSED USE PROMOTES THE EFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE USE OF
8:38:55PM LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
8:38:57PM THE WAIVERS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS UNIQUE AND THEREFORE IN
8:39:01PM NEED OF WAIVE.
8:39:02PM THE REQUESTED WAIVER WILL NOT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE WITH
8:39:05PM OR INJURE THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS WHOSE PROPERTY WILL BE
8:39:08PM AFFECTED BY THE WAIVER.
8:39:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:39:12PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:39:14PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
8:39:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:39:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:39:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:39:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:39:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:39:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
8:39:29PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT
8:39:32PM VOTE.
8:39:32PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 6th,
8:39:37PM 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
8:39:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
8:39:40PM INFORMATION REPORT.
8:39:41PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:39:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE SIR.
8:39:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NONE.
8:39:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NONE.
8:39:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:39:51PM I HAVE A COUPLE.
8:39:51PM I'M SORRY.
8:40:03PM FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT I GUESS THE REQUEST
8:40:07PM TO GO TO PARKS AND REC, THAT WE RECOGNIZE OR DO SOME KIND OF
8:40:13PM RECOGNITION IN A FORM OF A PLAQUE, SOMETHING SMALL.
8:40:17PM I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE A DOG PARK, OTHER THINGS, SOMETHING
8:40:21PM FOR SANDY SANCHEZ, FOR HER TIRELESS WORK NOT JUST THE
8:40:27PM NEIGHBORHOOD BUT FOR VILA BROTHERS PARK.
8:40:29PM ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.
8:40:31PM SHE'S VERY, VERY INVOLVED AND DEDICATES SO MUCH OF HER TIME
8:40:34PM IN SERVICE TO HER COMMUNITY, AND I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO
8:40:37PM SOMETHING.
8:40:38PM IT CAN BE VERY SIMPLE, BUT SOMETHING FOR HER.
8:40:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
8:40:45PM MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:40:49PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8:40:50PM ANY OPPOSED?
8:40:51PM MOTION PASSES.
8:40:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN -- I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH PARKS AND
8:40:58PM REC.
8:40:59PM THEN I HAVE FOUR MOTIONS.
8:41:00PM THIS IS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
8:41:02PM NUMBER ONE, A REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION SETTING
8:41:03PM ADOPTION HEARING FOR TA/CPA 23-02, TA/CPA 23-03, AND TA/CPA
8:41:10PM 23-04 ON MAY 25th, 2023 AT 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE
8:41:17PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH A FORM OF
8:41:19PM NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
8:41:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED
8:41:24PM BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:41:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:41:26PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
8:41:27PM MOTION PASSES.
8:41:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND IS A REQUEST BY THE PLANNING
8:41:30PM COMMISSION SETTING A TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR TA/CPA 23-06 ON
8:41:34PM MAY 25th, 2023 AT 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL
8:41:37PM DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH A FORM OF NOTICE
8:41:39PM FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
8:41:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:41:44PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:41:46PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8:41:47PM ANY OPPOSED?
8:41:48PM MOTION PASSES.
8:41:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID I DO TWO OR THREE?
8:41:54PM A REQUEST FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION SETTING ADOPTION
8:41:55PM HEARING FOR TA/CPA 23-05 ON JUNE 22ND, 2023 AT 5:01 P.M. AND
8:42:03PM DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK FOR
8:42:06PM ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
8:42:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:42:10PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8:42:12PM ANY OPPOSED?
8:42:13PM MOTION PASSES.
8:42:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FINAL ONE IS A REQUEST BY THE
8:42:16PM PLANNING COMMISSION SETTING ADOPTION HEARING FOR TA/CPA
8:42:17PM 23-06 ON AUGUST 31st, 2023 AT 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE
8:42:23PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF
8:42:25PM NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
8:42:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:42:31PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8:42:33PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
8:42:34PM MOTION PASSES.
8:42:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT.
8:42:37PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:42:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: A QUICK ONE.
8:42:41PM AS I TALKED TO POLICE OFFICERS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY
8:42:44PM SAY WORRIES THEM IS THAT PEOPLE INSIDE THE CITY HAVE ACCESS
8:42:50PM TO THEIR BODY CAM FOOTAGE, AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHO IS
8:42:54PM LOOKING AT IT.
8:42:54PM AND SO THEY WOULD LIKE US TO ENABLE THEM TO LOOK AT THE
8:42:59PM AUDIT OF WHO HAS LOOKED AT THEIR BODY CAM FOOTAGE.
8:43:02PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF RETURN ON MAY
8:43:06PM 4th TO REPORT ON -- CAN'T DO IT BEFORE -- ON MAY 4th
8:43:20PM TO REPORT ON THE POSSIBILITY OF ENABLING POLICE OFFICERS TO
8:43:24PM SEE THE AUDITS OF WHO HAS LOOKED AT THEIR BODY CAM FOOTAGE.
8:43:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
8:43:35PM BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:43:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
8:43:37PM ANY OPPOSED?
8:43:39PM IT PASSES.
8:43:40PM AND I HAVE NOTHING.
8:43:41PM RECEIVE AND FILE.
8:43:43PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
8:43:45PM MANISCALCO.
8:43:45PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
8:43:49PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8:43:50PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
8:43:52PM MOTION PASSES.
8:43:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE STILL HERE.
8:44:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION?
8:44:07PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
8:44:07PM [MEETING ADJOURNED]
8:44:09PM
8:44:10PM
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