Tampa City Council
Thursday, March 23, 2023
5:01 p.m.
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05:02:24PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
05:03:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD EVENING, THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS BACK
05:03:08PM IN SESSION ON THIS DAY FOR THE EVENING AGENDA ON MARCH 23,
05:03:13PM 2023.
05:03:13PM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
05:03:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:03:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
05:03:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:03:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
05:03:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:03:31PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:03:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DOCK, YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE
05:03:37PM AGENDA RIGHT NOW.
05:03:38PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, SIR, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CITRO, LaCHONE
05:03:43PM DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
05:03:44PM ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA, THREE ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR,
05:03:48PM ITEM NUMBER 3.
05:03:49PM FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-23.
05:03:51PM THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST 31.
05:03:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: UNTIL WHEN?
05:03:57PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: AUGUST 31.
05:03:59PM THE APPLICANT REQUESTED AND SEPTEMBER IN A WRITTEN --
05:04:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CHAIRMAN, SO MOVED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC
05:04:06PM HEARING.
05:04:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BY
05:04:09PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:04:10PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:04:11PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:04:13PM OBJECTION?
05:04:14PM MOTION CARRIES.
05:04:15PM MS. DOCK.
05:04:16PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: REQUEST IS FOR AUGUST 31.
05:04:19PM AN ALCOHOL NIGHT AND THE NIGHT YOU TYPICALLY HEAR COMP PLAN
05:04:25PM APPLICATION.
05:04:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
05:04:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
05:04:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:04:28PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:04:30PM THANK YOU.
05:04:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS DOCK, IF YOU CAN ANNOUNCE THAT JUST
05:04:35PM AGAIN BECAUSE NO ADDITIONAL NOTICE, MY UNDERSTANDING.
05:04:39PM ANNOUNCE THAT ITEM AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER --
05:04:43PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ITEM NUMBER FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-23, THE
05:04:47PM REQUEST HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO AUGUST 31, 2023 AT 5:01P.
05:04:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
05:04:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION CARRIES.
05:04:57PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: NEXT ITEM, COUNCIL.
05:04:58PM ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
05:04:59PM FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-28.
05:05:02PM THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL MAY 11.
05:05:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY 11.
05:05:08PM I HAVE APRIL 21, MAY 11?
05:05:11PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: MAY 11.
05:05:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
05:05:13PM >> SECOND.
05:05:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:05:16PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:05:18PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:05:19PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:05:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN ANNOUNCE THAT AGAIN, PLEASE.
05:05:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THAT IS FILE NUMBER CONTINUED TO MAY 11,
05:05:39PM 2023 AT 5:01.
05:05:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION CARRIES.
05:05:43PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: NEXT ITEM NUMBER SIX.
05:05:45PM FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-31.
05:05:46PM THE REQUEST IS TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL APRIL 27, 2023.
05:05:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:05:55PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:05:56PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:05:58PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:05:59PM MOTION CARRIES.
05:06:00PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: JUST TO REPEAT AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, NUMBER
05:06:05PM FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-31.
05:06:07PM THIS ITEM IS BEING CONTINUED UNTIL APRIL 27, 2023 AT 5:01
05:06:14PM P.M. THAT CLEARS THE ONLY FOR THIS EVENING.
05:06:16PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
05:06:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
05:06:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
05:06:24PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:06:25PM ALL IN FAVOR.
05:06:26PM OBJECTION?
05:06:27PM MOTION CARRIES.
05:06:28PM FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, NUMBER ONE.
05:06:34PM FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-26.
05:06:44PM MR. BENTLEY, THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TWO WEEKS.
05:06:47PM ANY NEW EVIDENCE YOU WANT TO PRESENT?
05:06:52PM >> I DO HAVE A FEW PHOTOS, OKAY.
05:06:54PM BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF
05:06:58PM SYNOPSIS.
05:06:59PM ON THE 23rd PUBLIC HEARING WHICH WAS CONTINUED AT THE
05:07:03PM SUGGESTION OF COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE CONVENED -- I INITIATED
05:07:07PM AT THAT MEETING WITH CONCERNED RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
05:07:10PM THE MEETING WAS WELL ATTENDED.
05:07:13PM WE RECEIVED VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND ACTUALLY EMBRACED
05:07:16PM INTO THE COMMUNITY.
05:07:17PM WE ALSO RECEIVED SOME NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS,
05:07:20PM PRIMARILY RELATED TO TRAFFIC AND PARKING.
05:07:23PM I WAS NOT PERSONALLY IN ATTENDANCE, BUT RABBI MENDY WOULD
05:07:29PM LIKE TO ENGAGE COUNCIL SINCE HE WAS ENGAGED IN THE MEETING
05:07:33PM AND GIVE YOU THE PERSPECTIVE ON THINGS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
05:07:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WILL FIVE MINUTES BE ENOUGH FOR YOU.
05:07:38PM >> I THINK THE RABBI WILL TAKE TWO AND RYAN WANTED TO GO
05:07:42PM OVER A COUPLE OF POINTS LIKE THE PHOTOS AND WE CAN WRAP IT
05:07:45PM UP AND GET TO THE MERITS AND HAVE A VOTE, HOPEFULLY.
05:07:57PM RABBI.
05:07:58PM >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
05:07:59PM I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL.
05:08:01PM KNOW IT WAS NOT MY INITIAL THOUGHT TO HAVE A CONTINUANCE ON
05:08:05PM OUR LAST MEETING.
05:08:06PM I THINK IT WAS VERY VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY.
05:08:10PM WE HAD A MEETING EXACTLY A WEEK AGO THIS EVENING.
05:08:13PM NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE AT THE MEETING ARE PRESENT AS
05:08:16PM WELL.
05:08:16PM AND I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 30 -- 30 TO 40 PEOPLE FROM THE
05:08:21PM COMMUNITY MET WITH MYSELF, RYAN, AND SOME OF THE OTHER
05:08:24PM MEMBERS OF TEMPERATURE COMMUNITY ALSO WAS PRESENT AND A
05:08:27PM GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, FIRST OF ALL, MEET THEM.
05:08:29PM GET TO KNOW THEM A LITTLE BIT AND FOR THEM TO GET TO KNOW US,
05:08:35PM OUR ORGANIZATION AND WHAT WE DO, AND IMPORTANTLY LEARN WHAT
05:08:37PM THEIR CONCERNS ARE SPECIFICALLY DIRECTLY FROM THEM.
05:08:40PM AND THEY HAD SOME VERY LEGITIMATE POINTS THEY PRESENTED.
05:08:45PM YOU KNOW, WE TOOK THAT -- THOSE IDEAS.
05:08:49PM WE HAD SOME WHAT WE SHARED THERE AT THE MEETING WITH
05:08:51PM THEM.
05:08:52PM AND THEN ALSO IDEAS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN BACK AND TALKED WITH
05:08:56PM OUR TEAM AND OUR ORGANIZATION.
05:08:57PM AND WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THEIR
05:09:00PM CONCERNS.
05:09:01PM AND WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO THAT EFFECTIVELY AND BE GOOD
05:09:06PM STEWARDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOOD NEIGHBORS TO THEM.
05:09:09PM AND THAT IS SOURCE GOAL ULTIMATELY.
05:09:11PM SO I APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO -- TO MEET WITH THEM.
05:09:14PM I THANK YOU FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT TO DO SO, AND HOPEFULLY, WE
05:09:20PM CAN MOVE FORWARD AND REALLY ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND MAKE
05:09:23PM SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS A PLACE TO CELEBRATE AND PARTICIPATE
05:09:30PM AND ULTIMATELY FEEL SAFE AND WELCOMED WHICH IS ULTIMATELY
05:09:35PM OUR GOAL AND THEIR GOAL AS WELL.
05:09:36PM THANK YOU.
05:09:37PM >> NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE DANNY COLLINS WITH THE
05:09:43PM PLANNING COMMISSION.
05:09:45PM I AM GOING TO HOLD RYAN AT ABEYANCE AND JUST HAVE DANNY
05:09:51PM DESCRIBE THE NATURE OF THE NMU AND THE CATEGORY AND WHY IT
05:09:55PM IS COMPATIBLE WITH THAT WEST SIDE OF ARMENIA, WHICH THERE IS
05:09:58PM A PERCEPTION IS PRETTY PRISTINE RESIDENTIAL WHERE ACTUALLY A
05:10:03PM LOT OF MIXED USE OFFICE AND NONRESIDENTIAL.
05:10:06PM DANNY.
05:10:08PM >>DANNY COLLINS: GOOD EVENING, DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR
05:10:13PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
05:10:13PM I WANT TO DIRECT YOU TO PAGE 9 OF OUR STAFF REPORT UNDER THE
05:10:18PM SECOND PARAGRAPH UNDER STAFF ANALYSIS.
05:10:21PM JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE-24
05:10:25PM FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
05:10:27PM 2015, THE CITY OF TAMPA, IN COOPERATION WITH THE PLANNING
05:10:31PM COMMISSION, CREATED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE CATEGORIES.
05:10:33PM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE-24 DESIGNATION IS LIMITED.
05:10:37PM IT IS LIMITED TO THE CITY'S FORWARD GROWTH AREAS, WITH ONE
05:10:41PM OF THEM BEING URBAN ELEVATION.
05:10:43PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESCRIBES GROWTH AREAS
05:10:49PM LOCATIONS WHERE TRANSIT -- TRANSIT IS AVAILABLE.
05:10:52PM THIS SITE IS LOCATED ON NORTH ARMENIA AREA WHICH IS A
05:10:57PM TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
05:11:00PM IT IS ALSO A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR ARE OUR AREAS
05:11:05PM IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN AS REDEVELOPMENT INTENSIFICATION.
05:11:14PM THE SURROUNDING AREA IS UNIQUE.
05:11:16PM CC-35 WHICH IS A -- ALLOWS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES AND
05:11:22PM COMMERCIAL GENERAL UP TO A 2.0 F.A.R. TO THE EAST OF THE
05:11:27PM SITE.
05:11:27PM FURTHER DOWN, YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
05:11:30PM DESIGNATION WHICH ALLOWS UP TO A 2.0 F.A.R.
05:11:34PM ON THE EAST SIDE, YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL-20, WHICH THAT IS
05:11:38PM WHAT THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS.
05:11:41PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE-24 DESIGNATION ALLOW UP TO A
05:11:50PM 1.0 F.A.R.
05:11:52PM ENCOURAGES A MIXTURE OF USES KIND OF WHAT IS INTENDED FOR --
05:11:56PM OR THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE WANT ON THOSE CORRIDORS.
05:12:00PM IT WOULD ALLOW CONSIDERATION OF MULTIFAMILY.
05:12:04PM SOME LIMITED COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD -- COMMERCIAL GENERAL
05:12:08PM USES, AS WELL AS CN USES.
05:12:11PM SO THAT IS KEEP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE --
05:12:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ONE OF OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
05:12:19PM A MAP UP AS YOU ARE SPEAKING ABOUT IT, PLEASE.
05:12:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS HARD TO VISUALIZE.
05:12:25PM >>DANNY COLLINS: OF COURSE.
05:12:26PM I WILL SHOW TWO MAPS TODAY.
05:12:38PM THIS IS -- SO THIS IS AN AREA MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:12:47PM YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SKEET IS OUTLINED IN THE YELLOW
05:12:50PM COLOR.
05:12:50PM IT IS ALONG N. ARMENIA AVENUE.
05:12:52PM DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE SITE IS THE FOUNDRY APARTMENTS.
05:12:57PM A FIVE-STORY APARTMENT BUILDING.
05:12:59PM AND ONE BLOCK SOUTHEAST OF THE SITE IS LAND THAT USED BY THE
05:13:05PM STATE ARMORY BOARD OWNS IT.
05:13:07PM A DESIGNATED CMU-35.
05:13:09PM AND THEN YOU HAVE -- ON ARMENIA, YOU HAVE AN OFFICE DIRECTLY
05:13:15PM TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
05:13:16PM I THINK THERE ARE TWO OFFICES DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF THE
05:13:21PM SUBJECT SITE AND VILA BROTHERS ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH OF
05:13:24PM THE SITE.
05:13:24PM HERE IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
05:13:27PM SO -- SO, AS I WAS MENTIONING, THE CC-35 DESIGNATION.
05:13:37PM DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE SHOWN IN THE RED
05:13:40PM COLOR IS THE CMU-35 DESIGNATION.
05:13:43PM JUST ON THE EAST SIDE OF ARMENIA, YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL-20
05:13:50PM DESIGNATED PARCELS.
05:13:53PM SO ESSENTIALLY WILL INCREASE THE DENSITY FROM 20 DWELLING
05:13:58PM UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS BE CONSIDERED UNDER THE
05:14:01PM RESIDENTIAL-20 DESIGNATION UP TO 24 UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS
05:14:08PM THE 24 MIXED USE DESIGNATION.
05:14:11PM INCREASE THE F.A.R. TO POINT 5 UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-20 THAT
05:14:16PM THE SITE WILL NEED TO MEET LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR THE
05:14:20PM RESIDENTIAL-20 TO A 1.0 F.A.R. UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED
05:14:25PM USE DESIGNATION.
05:14:29PM AGAIN WE LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THIS IS ON.
05:14:35PM ARMENIA AVENUE, A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR AND URBAN AREA
05:14:41PM WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE DESIGNATION IS APPROPRIATE
05:14:45PM AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
05:14:48PM >> JUST TO WRAP IT UP, MR. CHAIRMAN -- THANKS A LOT, DANNY.
05:14:51PM SINCE WE HAVE OPTED NOT TO INTRODUCE ANY ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE
05:14:55PM INTO THE RECORD CONCERNING OUR CASE AND AS ALL PARTIES HAVE
05:15:01PM RECEIVED DUE PROCESS AND NOTICE AND RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE AT
05:15:04PM THIS POINT IN TIME, WE ARE REQUESTING THE CITY COUNCIL NOW
05:15:08PM VOTE ON THE MERITS OF THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION, WHICH IS
05:15:12PM SUPPORTED BY YOUR TWO PROFESSIONAL PLANNING STAFF.
05:15:16PM LONG-RANGE PLANNING, CITY OF TAMPA, PLANNING COMMISSION
05:15:21PM STAFF THE UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL BY THE
05:15:24PM PLANNING COMMISSION FINDING THE PROPOSED APPLICATION
05:15:26PM CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:15:28PM WE WERE PREPARED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE PROJECT.
05:15:30PM OBVIOUSLY WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY THE PROCESS HERE THAT WE
05:15:34PM CAN'T GET INTO THE MERITS OF THOSE.
05:15:35PM SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL ON THE APPLICATION.
05:15:39PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL CERTAINLY TRY TO ANSWER
05:15:42PM THEM.
05:15:42PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:15:43PM APPRECIATE IT.
05:15:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:15:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. BENTLEY AND THANK YOU, TEAM,
05:15:49PM FOR AT LEAST GOING OUT TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS.
05:15:51PM I AM SURE THEY APPRECIATED THE EFFORT TO GO BACK OUT AND
05:15:54PM TALK WITH THEM.
05:15:55PM THE MERITS OF THE CASE, WE CAN'T GO INTO THE SECOND PORTION.
05:16:00PM WERE ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT GIVEN TO THE
05:16:06PM RESIDENTS SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO
05:16:10PM AND WHAT THE GOAL IS?
05:16:12PM >> THERE WAS AN EXPLANATION OF THE PROJECT, THE NEEDS FOR
05:16:15PM CERTAIN COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT.
05:16:17PM WHAT WE DID, WE ASSEMBLED IT.
05:16:25PM SEVERAL CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS WITH MULTIPLE PARTIES.
05:16:28PM WE TOOK THE INFORMATION BACK AND RUN IT THROUGH OUR TEAMS,
05:16:31PM ENGINEERS AND ETC., AS A RESULT WE CAME UP WITH SOMETHING
05:16:33PM THAT WE THINK THE PROJECT WILL BE A LITTLE MORE PALATABLE TO
05:16:37PM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AND ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
05:16:39PM MAYBE NOT IN TOTALITY, BUT SIGNIFICANTLY.
05:16:41PM BUT HERE, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T MEAN TO TEASE YOU, BUT I
05:16:46PM CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW.
05:16:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS WHY I ASK THE QUESTION.
05:16:51PM THE STUFF YOU BROUGHT UP YOU TOOK IT BACK TO THEM --
05:16:54PM >> WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO, BUT WE WANTED TO -- THE
05:16:57PM PURPOSE OF THE MEETING WASN'T NEGOTIATION.
05:17:00PM IT WAS TO HAVE A MEETING OF THE MINDS, SHARE AND EXCHANGE
05:17:03PM INFORMATION.
05:17:03PM WE TOLD THEM ABOUT THE PROJECT.
05:17:05PM THEY EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS LIKE I MENTIONED.
05:17:08PM SOME PEOPLE WERE FLAT OUT IN SUPPORT.
05:17:09PM THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT PROJECT.
05:17:11PM I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
05:17:12PM BUT WHAT WE ARE PREPARED TO DO IS TO PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL
05:17:19PM -- [AUDIENCE GROANING]
05:17:24PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
05:17:26PM >> THAT'S IT.
05:17:26PM I DON'T WANT TO GET CATCALLED AGAIN.
05:17:29PM THAT WAS ENOUGH.
05:17:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
05:17:35PM AT THIS TIME, WE WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS
05:17:38PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 ONLY, PLEASE.
05:17:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY.
05:17:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SURELY.
05:17:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
05:17:50PM THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
05:17:52PM THIS IS STILL AT FIRST READING AND COUNCIL'S CUSTOM IF YOU
05:17:56PM HAD SPOKEN OR WAIVED YOUR TIME AT THAT POINT, YOU WOULD HAVE
05:17:59PM AN OPPORTUNITY TO -- THANK YOU.
05:18:04PM YOU WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK SHOULD IT MOVE TO
05:18:08PM SECOND READING AND SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
05:18:10PM SO IF YOU ARE -- I AM GOING TO MAKE A REQUEST -- I AM GOING
05:18:15PM TO MAKE A REQUEST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON
05:18:18PM ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:18:20PM COULD YOU RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM
05:18:23PM NUMBER 1?
05:18:24PM OKAY.
05:18:24PM THE REQUEST IS THIS.
05:18:26PM IF YOU HAD SPOKEN AT THE FIRST HEARING -- EXCUSE ME, THE
05:18:30PM FIRST PART OF THIS FIRST READING AND A CONTINUATION OF THAT,
05:18:33PM WILL YOU PLEASE WHEN YOU STATE YOUR NAME, STATE YOU HAVE
05:18:37PM PREVIOUSLY SPOKEN.
05:18:38PM IF YOU HAD WAIVED YOUR TIME -- IF YOUR NAME WAS ON THE
05:18:43PM SPEAKER WAIVER FORM FOR THE FIRST READING ON THE 9TH OF
05:18:47PM MARCH, PLEASE SO STATE.
05:18:48PM AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT, IF THAT IS THE
05:18:52PM CASE.
05:18:52PM IF YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN BEFORE, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE
05:18:56PM OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AS THIS IS A CONTINUATION.
05:19:00PM I SEE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM IN FRONT OF ME.
05:19:05PM MISS SANCHEZ, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR NAMES.
05:19:08PM ARE ANY OF THESE PEOPLE WHO AND ON THE FIRST READING?
05:19:17PM WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE?
05:19:18PM YOU WOULD LIKE ONE OF THESE?
05:19:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:19:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL
05:19:26PM SOMEBODY COMES UP TO DISCLOSE IF THEY SPOKE BEFORE.
05:19:29PM WE SHOULD SET THE RULE OR THEY CAN OR CAN'T SPEAK.
05:19:32PM WHAT IS THE SITUATION -- WHAT IS CITY COUNCIL'S RULE?
05:19:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WILL BE FINE.
05:19:37PM I WILL RELY ON THEM IF THEY HAVE SPOKEN AT THE FIRST
05:19:41PM HEARING, THEY DO NOT SPEAK AT THE SECOND PART OF THE ABOUT
05:19:43PM PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
05:19:44PM BUT THERE ARE THOSE AT THE FIRST -- THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING
05:19:48PM WHO HAVE WAIVED THEIR TIME ON THE SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
05:19:53PM AND THE THING IS THAT THEY THEN JUST AS THOSE PEOPLE WHO
05:19:56PM PREVIOUSLY HAVE SPOKEN ARE LIMITED TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE
05:19:59PM REASON FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
05:20:00PM AND, AGAIN, A REMINDER, COUNCIL, BECAUSE THIS IS A FUTURE
05:20:05PM LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT, ISSUES OF REZONING ARE NOT RELEVANT
05:20:09PM TO THIS CASE.
05:20:11PM AND THAT IS NOT THIS ITEM.
05:20:12PM SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONFINE YOUR COMMENTS TO THE
05:20:16PM RELEVANT POINTS OF -- AND AMOUNT TO THE FUTURE AND WILL USE
05:20:22PM MAP.
05:20:22PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:20:23PM A GOOD SUGGESTION.
05:20:24PM IF YOU PREVIOUSLY SPOKEN BEFORE, I STILL -- COUNCIL HAS LET
05:20:29PM THEM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, BUT LIMITED TO THE SUBJECTS OF
05:20:32PM THE CONTINUANCE.
05:20:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF SOMEBODY GETS UP WHO SPOKE BEFORE, THERE
05:20:38PM A PENALTY IF THEY HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE.
05:20:40PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
05:20:42PM WE NEED TO GIVE THEM CLEAR DIRECTION.
05:20:44PM ARE THEY ALLOWED OR NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK?
05:20:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, DEPENDS ON WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.
05:20:50PM THE ANSWER TRADITIONALLY HAS BEEN THAT THE ONLY SUBJECTS
05:20:53PM THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK -- THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE
05:20:56PM ABLE TO GIVE A FULL PRESENTATION.
05:20:58PM THE GOAL IS TO NOT HAVE TO REPEAT THE SAME THING THAT WAS
05:21:01PM SAID AT THE SAME PUBLIC HEARING WHICH WAS CONTINUED FROM
05:21:04PM MARCH 9.
05:21:05PM SO THE ANSWER IS, IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF
05:21:09PM THE CONTINUANCE, THEY CAN.
05:21:10PM THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK.
05:21:11PM AGAIN WITH A -- WITH A -- A CASE LIKE THIS, IT GOES TO A
05:21:16PM SECOND READING.
05:21:16PM IF IT MOVES FORWARD AND THEY HAVE ANOTHER FULL OPPORTUNITY
05:21:20PM TO PRESENT AT THAT TIME AS WELL.
05:21:22PM SO THE ANSWER IS, I'M GOING TO READ THESE NAMES.
05:21:25PM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBERS?
05:21:28PM YOU STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND?
05:21:30PM OKAY, LET'S DO IT --
05:21:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:21:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW, I HATE THAT WHEN PEOPLE -- WE
05:21:41PM HAVE RULES, BUT SOMETIMES WE MAKE PROVISIONS HERE AND THERE.
05:21:46PM AND WE DO IT ALL THE TIME.
05:21:47PM I HATE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THEIR TIME TO COME DOWN HERE.
05:21:51PM IRREGARDLESS OF WHAT THIS COUNCIL MAY VOTE, FOR OR AGAINST.
05:21:56PM YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE.
05:21:57PM I DON'T MIND IF YOU LET THE PEOPLE SPEAK.
05:22:00PM THEY ARE HERE.
05:22:01PM THAT IS WHAT THIS -- THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE.
05:22:04PM SO, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ME TALKING.
05:22:08PM WE HAVE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS HERE.
05:22:10PM I AM ON MY WAY OUT THE DOOR AND I FEEL THE PEOPLE HAVE THE
05:22:16PM RIGHT TO SPEAK.
05:22:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL HAS MADE ACCOMMODATIONS AND MR.
05:22:19PM MIRANDA WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT.
05:22:21PM I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
05:22:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY.
05:22:33PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:22:34PM MR. SHELBY, WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK.
05:22:38PM SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 ONLY.
05:22:41PM IRREGARDLESS IF THEY HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE OR NOT.
05:22:45PM YOU HAVE THE WAIVERS IN FRONT OF YOU.
05:22:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
05:22:48PM THANK YOU.
05:22:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.
05:22:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
05:22:53PM BY UNANIMOUS CONCEPT WE WILL GO FORWARD WITH THAT AND I WILL
05:22:56PM CALL THESE NAMES AND AGAIN BEFORE I DO THAT, JUST A REMINDER
05:23:00PM THAT MR. BENTLEY, THE APPLICANT -- THE APPLICANT'S
05:23:03PM REPRESENTATIVE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WHEN THAT
05:23:07PM TIME COMES.
05:23:07PM JEROME ADCOCK.
05:23:10PM BENITA DECOSTA.
05:23:13PM MARK INPUT.
05:23:16PM ADRIAN LARAMIE.
05:23:19PM THANK YOU.
05:23:20PM AND FOUR EXTRA MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN.
05:23:25PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
05:23:26PM THAT SIMPLIFIES THINGS TREMENDOUSLY.
05:23:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS SANCHEZ.
05:23:31PM >> CAN I GET SOMEBODY TO GET THIS OVERHEAD TO WORK.
05:23:34PM THE OVERHEAD YOU JUST SAW.
05:23:38PM THIS IS THE OVERHEAD YOU JUST SAW THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU.
05:23:51PM I WANT TO SHOW THAT IT ACTUALLY WORKS FOR US.
05:23:53PM IT SHOULD BE WORKING FOR US.
05:23:55PM ONLY ONE PARCEL, THE PARCEL IN QUESTION --
05:23:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU GIVE YOUR NAME.
05:24:01PM >> SANDRA SANCHEZ, 6th STREET.
05:24:05PM I LIVE IN THE ARMORY GARDENS AND PRESIDENT OF THE ARMORY
05:24:11PM GARDENS ASSOCIATION.
05:24:12PM THE REASON I PUT THIS UP HERE, BECAUSE I WANT TO YOU SEE
05:24:15PM NOTHING ON THE WEST SIDE OF ARMENIA THAT TAKES IN THIS KIND
05:24:20PM OF, I GUESS, MASS BUILDING THAT TAKES UP A LOT OF SPACE.
05:24:25PM I KNOW I CAN'T SAY TOO MUCH.
05:24:27PM BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
05:24:29PM THIS DISCUSSION AND REPORT IS ABOUT THE MEETING MARCH 16
05:24:33PM BETWEEN NEIGHBORS IN AND AROUND ARMORY GARDENS AND THE
05:24:38PM APPLICANT.
05:24:39PM EVEN THOUGH I SENT YOU MINUTES FROM THE MEETING, I HAVE MY
05:24:42PM OWN NOTES I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE.
05:24:44PM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE FOLKS FROM THE ARMORY
05:24:49PM GARDENS COMMUNITY THAT ATTENDED THE MEETING ON THE EVENING
05:24:52PM OF MARCH 16 AND THE OTHER EIGHT COMMUNITIES THAT SENT
05:24:55PM REPRESENTATIVES.
05:24:56PM NORTH HYDE PARK, MIDTOWN, OAKLAND PARK, McFARLAND PARK, WEST
05:25:01PM RIVER, DAVIS ISLAND, VIRGINIA PARK AND GANDY.
05:25:04PM THEY ARE ALSO HERE TONIGHT.
05:25:06PM DURING THE MEETING, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT SHOULD THIS TEXT
05:25:09PM AMENDMENT GO FORWARD, IT WILL NOT ONLY AFFECT THE ARMORY
05:25:12PM GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD BUT SET A PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE
05:25:15PM DEVELOPMENT WITHIN ARMORY GARDENS AND ORGANIZED OR STABLE
05:25:20PM COMMUNITY OTHERWISE KNOWN AS AN URBAN VILLAGE.
05:25:22PM THE ROBUST CONVERSATION AT THE MEETING INCLUDING VIEWS THAT
05:25:25PM THIS AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT ENHANCE
05:25:30PM THE ARMORY GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:25:32PM IT DESTROYS IT.
05:25:33PM THE ARMORY GARDEN COMMUNITY -- EXCUSE ME, URBAN VILLAGE HAS
05:25:37PM ALL THE AMENITIES LISTED IN THE GOALS AND PRINCIPLES OF THE
05:25:41PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITHIN ONE MILE.
05:25:43PM MEETING PLACES, PARKS, RETAIL, GROCERIES, TAMPA GENERAL,
05:25:48PM OUTPATIENT, DOCTOR OFFICES, LIGHT VETERINARIAN, ALESSI,
05:25:54PM ROLLING OATS, FOOD STORES, NAIL SALONS, HIGH DENSITY
05:26:00PM RESIDENTIAL AND THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.
05:26:02PM WHICH GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT WE ARE A VIOLENT COMMUNITY.
05:26:07PM AND OF THIS LAND USE CHANGE IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO
05:26:11PM HELP US.
05:26:11PM DURING THE DISCUSSION, IT WAS BROUGHT OUT THAT THE TEXT
05:26:17PM AMENDMENT IS A BONUS TO ONLY ONE ENTITY, THE APPLICANT.
05:26:20PM CHANGING FROM R-20 TO NMU-24 DOUBLES THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND
05:26:26PM INCREASES THE DENSITY ALLOTTED PREVIOUSLY.
05:26:28PM DOES NOT PROCEED COMPREHENSIVE GOALS SUCH AS RECOGNIZE
05:26:32PM REGENCY, PUBLIC MEETING PLEAS, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL OR
05:26:35PM EMPLOYMENT.
05:26:35PM THE GROUP WAS WAITING TO HEAR THE BENEFITS.
05:26:38PM THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
05:26:39PM AT THE MEETING, THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS PASSED, IT CHANGES
05:26:45PM THE LAND USE PERMANENTLY.
05:26:46PM IT STAYS WITH THE LAND.
05:26:48PM IF THE APPLICANT DECIDES NOT TO ENDANGER HIS CONGREGATION
05:26:54PM AND THE ARMORY GARDENS COMMUNITY BY NOT BUILDING THIS SITE,
05:26:57PM THE LAND USE STAYS.
05:26:59PM THE CHANGE MAKES THE PROPERTY MORE VALUABLE FOR RESALE.
05:27:02PM THE CHANGE IS PERMANENT.
05:27:03PM WHY CHANGE THE COMP PLAN FOR ONE SMALL PARCEL OF LAND THAT
05:27:09PM BRINGS DANGERS TO THE APPLICANT'S FOLLOWERS.
05:27:14PM A NEIGHBOR SAID IT WILL CHANGE PROPERTY VALUES AND ADD CHAOS
05:27:18PM TO THE COMMUNITY.
05:27:18PM OVER AND OVER AGAIN THE QUESTIONS WERE THE SAME AND WENT
05:27:21PM UNANSWERED.
05:27:22PM THE APPLICANT SAID HE WAS NOT IN ANY NEGOTIATIONS TO CREATE
05:27:25PM ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BROUGHT UP.
05:27:28PM ONE IN PARTICULAR WHICH I CANNOT SAY.
05:27:30PM THE GROUP AGREED THAT CHANGES IN THE TEXT AMENDMENT WOULD
05:27:34PM NOT ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY AND DISRUPTED.
05:27:37PM THE OPINION WAS VOICED THROUGHOUT THE MEETING.
05:27:39PM NOBODY AGREED WITH THE APPLICANT.
05:27:41PM WHY WOULD YOU PENALIZE A COMMUNITY OF 762 HOMES BY VOTING
05:27:46PM FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT DOES NOT TAKE LOCATION, SAFETY,
05:27:50PM AND HUMANITY INTO THE CONSIDERATION AND HELPS ONE AND
05:27:55PM IGNORES THE OTHER OF THE MANY.
05:27:57PM PLEASE DENY THIS AMENDMENT.
05:27:59PM [APPLAUSE]
05:28:03PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
05:28:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO NAMES.
05:28:15PM MISSY MARTIN.
05:28:17PM >> I HAVE THREE.
05:28:19PM OH, I SEE A THIRD ONE.
05:28:21PM OKAY.
05:28:22PM AND ANDY LAWRENCE.
05:28:23PM AND IS IT CARMEN VEGA?
05:28:28PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
05:28:28PM THREE PLUS THREE.
05:28:31PM SIX.
05:28:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
05:28:39PM >> DEBBIE ZABERMAN.
05:28:42PM DO I HAVE TO -- DEBBIE ZABERMAN.
05:28:46PM I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON MISS SANCHEZ'S COMMENTS.
05:28:49PM AM I -- THE MAP IS NOT SHOWING.
05:28:51PM AND WHAT I AM -- THE COMMENTS I'M GOING TO MAKE.
05:28:56PM THE BIG COMMENT IS THAT THERE IS AN ENTIRE EXCEPTION IN YOUR
05:29:00PM COMP PLAN THAT IS THE LEGAL STATUS FOR THE COMP PLAN.
05:29:03PM IN THAT -- IN THAT COMP PLAN, IT HAS AN AREA THAT SAYS A.M.
05:29:09PM TO ADOPT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:29:10PM IN THERE -- THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS, WORDS FROM THE PLAN.
05:29:14PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REPRESENTS APPLICATION OF ANY ASPECT OF THE
05:29:18PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REPRESENTS A MAJOR POLICY DECISION BY THE
05:29:22PM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
05:29:24PM AN AMENDMENT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN PARTICULAR IS A
05:29:27PM DECLARATION THAT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN INITIALLY
05:29:32PM SOUGHT BY THE CITY IN A TECH LOCATION THROUGH THOUGHTFUL
05:29:35PM ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NO LONGER APPROPRIATE.
05:29:39PM AS SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE
05:29:42PM SUITABILITY OF A PROPERTY IN THE PARTICULAR AREA FOR THE
05:29:45PM KIND OF DEVELOPMENT INTENDED FROM THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
05:29:48PM PLAN WHICH WAS NOT CONTEMPLATED AT THE TIME -- AT THE TIME
05:29:52PM OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS ADOPTED MADE -- MAY JUSTIFY
05:29:56PM RECONSIDERATION OF THE LAND USE CATEGORY OF WHICH THE AREA
05:30:00PM HAS BEEN PLACED IN THE MAP.
05:30:02PM FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGES NOT FUNCTIONALLY RELATED TO THE
05:30:06PM OVERALL PURPOSES OF THE.
05:30:07PM THAT IN THE POLICY CONTAINED HERE IN WILL SERIOUSLY
05:30:11PM UNDERMINE THE INTEGRITY OF THE MAP AND OTHER PROVISIONS
05:30:14PM WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF.
05:30:16PM WHAT IS LACKING FROM THIS APPLICATION IS THE BIG PICTURE
05:30:19PM JUSTIFICATION WHY A VERY SMALL SIDE, APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER
05:30:23PM OF AN ACRE, I RECALL, IS BECOMING THE CATALYST FOR THIS
05:30:30PM CHANGE IN AN AREA THAT IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THIS IS
05:30:33PM RESIDENTIAL.
05:30:33PM IT IS VERY CLEAR ON THE MAP.
05:30:34PM OTHER DIRECTION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:30:36PM HOW THESE MAPS ARE THE PICTURE OF WHAT THESE INTENTS ARE.
05:30:41PM THIS IS RESIDENTIAL.
05:30:42PM WHAT HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED WHEN THEY ARE ADDRESSING TO THE
05:30:45PM EAST OF THE SITE, THIS IS A CRA.
05:30:47PM THE CRA IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
05:30:50PM AND THE FACT THAT IT IS A CRA IS ACTUALLY IN THE REPORT BY
05:30:56PM THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
05:30:58PM ABOUT STEVEN BENSON AND SUBMITTED TO DANNY COLLINS.
05:31:03PM AND THE RELEVANT POLICIES AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS
05:31:09PM REPORT SAYS THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTSIDE BUT IMMEDIATELY
05:31:13PM ADJACENT TO THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
05:31:16PM WE KNOW IT IS A REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
05:31:18PM THERE ARE NO OTHER -- THERE ARE NO OTHER PARCELS WITHIN THE
05:31:21PM PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ADJACENT TO THE SITE.
05:31:26PM THE NEAREST THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE AND I CAN SKIP THAT.
05:31:30PM THE LAST SENTENCE THIS PROPOSAL WILL ADD THE POTENTIAL OF
05:31:34PM ADDITIONAL DENSITY AND COMMERCIAL USES TO A RESIDENTIAL
05:31:37PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:31:37PM THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED COMMERCIAL USES ON THE WEST SIDE
05:31:41PM OF THE STREET.
05:31:42PM NONE OF THEM ARE AS INTENSE WHAT IS ON THE CRA SIDE, AND
05:31:47PM THESE COMMERCIAL USES ARE ALLOWED IN THIS DISTRICT.
05:31:51PM IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
05:31:53PM SO THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT YOU ARE WANTING SOMETHING TWICE AS
05:31:57PM BIG THAN WHAT IS PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED AND THAT HAS BEEN
05:32:00PM ADDRESSED IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS.
05:32:02PM SO I WON'T HIT IT AGAIN.
05:32:04PM I SENT FOUR E-MAILS, I BELIEVE, TO ALL -- I SENT IT TO THE
05:32:11PM QUASI BOX AND CITY COUNCIL.
05:32:13PM I THINK I PROVIDED DETAIL BECAUSE WE WERE INSTRUCTED THAT WE
05:32:16PM CAN'T SPEAK WITH OUR CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
05:32:19PM THAT WE HAVE TO PUT ITEMS IN WRITING WHICH A DISCUSSION WILL
05:32:22PM BE A MUCH EASIER WAY TO CONVEY THE INFORMATION VERSUS KIND
05:32:26PM OF PULLING OUT THE RABBIT FROM THE HAT AND ASSUMING THAT I
05:32:29PM KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS YOU WOULD ASKED.
05:32:31PM SO I TRIED TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT I THOUGHT YOU WOULD
05:32:34PM ASK.
05:32:34PM THEY WEREN'T ON POINT, MY APOLOGIES.
05:32:38PM WHAT I DID DO -- BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT -- I
05:32:41PM CREATED A MOTION HELPER FOR THIS ITEM.
05:32:43PM AND I THOUGHT I BROUGHT IT UP HERE.
05:32:46PM WITHIN MY MOTION HELPER, I ADDRESS THE LACK OF JUSTIFICATION
05:32:51PM FOR THE AMENDMENT APPLICATION.
05:32:53PM I ADDRESS TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONFLICTS,
05:32:57PM INCONSISTENCIES OR DEFICIENCIES.
05:33:01PM AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU MAKE -- YOU CONSIDER
05:33:05PM THOSE ITEMS AND ALSO, I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THIS
05:33:10PM IS REALLY CONFUSING TOO.
05:33:11PM THE ONLY JUSTIFICATION I COULD FIND FOR THIS REQUEST --
05:33:15PM AND IT WAS IN THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION, THE
05:33:18PM APPLICATION SPECIFICALLY SAYS "JUSTIFICATION FOR PROPOSED
05:33:22PM MAP TEXT AMENDMENT IE, INFRASTRUCTURE, SUPPORTING
05:33:27PM STRUCTURES, TRANSIT ABILITY, ETC.
05:33:30PM THE RESPONSE PD REZONING WILL BE FOLLOWED BY CITY COUNCIL.
05:33:34PM I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS ANYTHING CLOSE TO A JUSTIFICATION
05:33:39PM THAT MEETS THE LEVEL OF POLICY OR CHANGE OF CIRCUMSTANCE
05:33:44PM THAT IS CONTEMPLATED FOR A MAJOR DECISION.
05:33:46PM THE ONLY REASON THIS IS BEING DONE IS FOR A PD REZONING.
05:33:50PM FOR A VERY SMALL SITE.
05:33:51PM AND WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT PD REZONING?
05:33:55PM BECAUSE IT IS IN THE STAFF REPORT FROM THE PLANNING COUNCIL.
05:33:59PM IT WAS DISCUSSED NUMEROUS TEAMS BY THE APPLICANT IN THE
05:34:03PM ORIGINAL MEETING.
05:34:04PM IF THERE ARE OTHER JUSTIFICATIONS, POTENTIALLY THE APPLICANT
05:34:09PM WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR REBUTTAL THEY CAN SAY WHERE THAT IS IN
05:34:12PM THE RECORD AND HOW IT WAS CONVEYED TO YOU BECAUSE I DON'T
05:34:15PM KNOW WHAT IT IS OTHER THAN THE PD ON AN AREA BEING JUSTIFIED
05:34:21PM BY A CRA ON THE OTHER SEED.
05:34:23PM THESE ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT CONCEPTS.
05:34:27PM TOP UNDERMINE IN SIDE WITH A CONCEPT THAT WASN'T EVEN
05:34:33PM CONTEMPLATED, YOU HAVE TO REALLY ASK, DOES THIS REALLY
05:34:38PM COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF THE CODE.
05:34:40PM AND IF IT HAPPENS HERE, WHY CAN'T IT HAPPEN ANYWHERE ELSE.
05:34:44PM I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO START REZONING OUR ENTIRE CITY LOT
05:34:48PM BY LOT.
05:34:49PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
05:34:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:34:52PM [APPLAUSE]
05:34:53PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
05:34:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE, IF YOU CAN HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE,
05:34:57PM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
05:34:58PM I WILL GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
05:35:00PM WILL BENNETT IS HERE WITH TWO NAMES.
05:35:11PM GONSALO MARTINEZ.
05:35:15PM PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE.
05:35:17PM >> YES, I'M HERE.
05:35:18PM >> AND MIKE PENCE.
05:35:21PM TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE.
05:35:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS BENNETT.
05:35:40PM >> I WAS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL HE HANDED THOSE THINGS OUT FOR
05:35:45PM YOU ALL.
05:35:46PM HI, MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
05:35:51PM A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
05:35:53PM I DIDN'T ATTEND THE LAST HEARING, BUT I WATCHED IT.
05:35:56PM YOU WERE RIGHT TO BE CONCERNED OF APPROVING A CHANGE IN LAND
05:35:59PM USE IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL BE BUILT.
05:36:01PM THE DILEMMA YOU FACE IS WHY THE COMP PLAN SAYS, AND I QUOTE,
05:36:07PM "AMENDMENT OF ANY ASPECT OF THE COMP PLAN REPRESENTS A MAJOR
05:36:12PM POLICY DECISION BY THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
05:36:14PM AN AMENDMENT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IN PARTICULAR, IS A
05:36:18PM DECLARATION THAT THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
05:36:21PM INITIALLY SOUGHT BY THE CITY IN A TECH LOCATION THROUGH
05:36:24PM THOUGHTFUL ADOPTION THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NO
05:36:27PM LONGER 'APPROPRIATE."
05:36:29PM I CANNOT EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH.
05:36:31PM YOU SHOULD NOT APPROVE A CHANGE IN LAND USE IF YOU DON'T
05:36:36PM KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD.
05:36:38PM THE REALITY IS, EVEN IF YOU APPROVE A SITE PLAN, YOU DON'T
05:36:42PM KNOW THEY WILL BUILD IT.
05:36:43PM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THE APPROVED PD.
05:36:46PM THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD ANYTHING.
05:36:48PM THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY DONE EXACTLY THAT.
05:36:51PM THE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN 2013 AND GOT A PD APPROVED IN 2013
05:36:57PM AND THEN THEY BUILT NOTHING.
05:36:59PM IN 2018, THEY STARTED THE PROCESS AND TOLD THEY NEEDED SOME
05:37:02PM THINGS LIKE SPRINKLERS, FIRE SAFE OPENINGS NEAR THE STAIRS,
05:37:07PM ETC.
05:37:07PM BUT THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH AND ALMOST TEN YEARS LATER,
05:37:10PM THE LOT IS STILL EMPTY.
05:37:12PM NOT ONLY IS THERE NO REQUIREMENT TO BUILD THE APPROVED SIN
05:37:16PM GOING, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD A RELIGIOUS BUILDING AT
05:37:19PM ALL.
05:37:19PM THERE ARE FOUR PAGES -- I JUST GAVE THEM TO YOU -- FOUR
05:37:23PM PAGES OF OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE BUILT UNDER NMU-24 THEY
05:37:29PM CAN SCRAP THEIR CURRENT PLAN AND BUILD ANYTHING ON THOSE
05:37:32PM FOUR PAGES.
05:37:32PM THIS LAND USE CHANGE DOUBLES THE STRUCTURE SIZE FROM 6,000
05:37:39PM TO 12,000 SQUARE FEET AND BUILD TWICE AS MUCH OF ANYTHING ON
05:37:43PM THOSE FOUR PAGES.
05:37:44PM ANYTHING OF THAT MEGA SIZE WILL RESULT IN STREET PARKING ON
05:37:48PM ROADS THAT ARE ONLY 17 OR 18 FEET WIDE IN THIS OLD
05:37:52PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:37:53PM WE ALL KNOW THAT SOMETHING THAT BIG ON A LOT THIS SMALL WILL
05:37:56PM RESULT IN PARKING IN PEOPLE'S YARDS AND BLOCKING OF THE
05:37:59PM STREETS AND DRIVEWAYS.
05:38:00PM IT IS INEVITABLE.
05:38:02PM SINCE THIS CHANGE OF LAND USE IS PERMANENT AND RUNS WITH THE
05:38:06PM LAND, THIS HE CAN GO AROUND AND SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.
05:38:08PM AND THE NEW OWNERS CAN BUILD 12,000 SQUARE FEET OF ANYTHING
05:38:14PM ON THOSE FOUR PAGES.
05:38:15PM A LOT OF ON LINES ARTICLES OF MAKING PROFITS THROUGH
05:38:19PM REZONING.
05:38:19PM IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT ALL THE BUILDERS MAKE BIG PROFITS, THE
05:38:23PM BIGGEST WINDFALLS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WHO GET CHANGES IN LAND
05:38:27PM USE AND MAKE A KILLING.
05:38:28PM ARTICLES GIVE EXAMPLES OF PROPERTY VALUES DOUBLING, TRIPLING
05:38:33PM AND QUADRUPLING THROUGH A CHANGE IN LAND USE AND REZONING.
05:38:36PM THIS EXCERPT FROM ONE ARTICLE SUMS IT UP.
05:38:41PM THE IDEA IS TO GET A PROPERTY AND GET A NEW ZONING
05:38:44PM EVALUATION.
05:38:45PM IF YOU CAN GET THE ZONING CHANGE, YOU CAN RESELL THE
05:38:48PM PROPERTY FOR A PROFIT.
05:38:48PM THEY HAVE A PD FOR A 56-SEAT SYNAGOGUE THAT REQUIRES 20
05:38:53PM PARKING SPACES WHICH WERE EASILY PROVIDED BECAUSE THE
05:38:56PM BUILDING WAS ONLY 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
05:38:58PM I BELIEVE THE REASON THEY TONIGHT WANT THIS PLAN ANYMORE
05:39:01PM BECAUSE TEN YEARS LATER, THEY OUTGROWN IT.
05:39:04PM PRESIDENT COMMUNITY MEETING, THE RABBI SAID THEY LOOKED AT
05:39:08PM BUYING LOTS OF PROPERTIES INCLUDING THE LETTER CARRIER HALL
05:39:11PM WHICH YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
05:39:12PM CURRENTLY AT THEIR CURRENT LOCATION, THEY HAVE 32 PARKING
05:39:17PM SPACES.
05:39:17PM I BELIEVE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR LARGER PROPERTIES BECAUSE THE
05:39:21PM TEN-YEAR-OLD PD FOR RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IS INADEQUATE FOR
05:39:26PM THEIR CURRENT NEEDS.
05:39:27PM THREE OPTIONS.
05:39:28PM BUILD A PD.
05:39:30PM TWO, GET THE LAND USE CHANGE AND BUILD SOMETHING TWICE AS
05:39:33PM BIG THAT WILL CREATE A PARKING AND TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE FOR THE
05:39:36PM CONGREGATION.
05:39:37PM THREE, CHANGE THE LAND USE AND SELL IT TO A BIG PROFIT
05:39:40PM SOMEBODY WHO WILL BUILD 12,000 SQUARE FEET OF GOD KNOW'S
05:39:45PM WHAT AND CREATE A TRAFFIC AND PARKING NIGHTMARE.
05:39:48PM ONLY OPTION ONE WITH NO LAND USE CHANGE IS RIGHT FOR THIS
05:39:51PM COMMUNITY.
05:39:51PM THANK YOU.
05:39:52PM [APPLAUSE]
05:39:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, CAN WE -- PLEASE HOLD
05:39:57PM OUR APPLAUSE.
05:39:58PM >> HELLO.
05:40:06PM MY NAME IS CYNTHIA MALONEY.
05:40:10PM AND I DON'T LIVE IN ARMORY GARDENS.
05:40:13PM I AM IN NORTH HYDE PARK COMMUNITY.
05:40:15PM I AM ON THE BOARD OF THE NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION
05:40:20PM AND I AM REPRESENTING THE BOARD.
05:40:21PM WE DISCUSSED THIS MATTER AT OUR BOARD MEETING LAST NIGHT.
05:40:25PM WE ATTENDED THE MEETING REFERRED TO EARLIER.
05:40:27PM AND I WANT TO THANK THE RABBI FOR COMING AND TALKING TO US.
05:40:31PM IT WAS NICE THAT HE SHOWED UP AND DID TALK TO THE COMMUNITY,
05:40:35PM BUT I WANT TO CLEAR UP ANY MISCONCEPTION THAT YOU MAY HAVE
05:40:38PM ABOUT THE ATTITUDE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED THE MEETING.
05:40:42PM WE WERE IN FAVOR OF THE IDEA OF A DAY CARE IN THE COMMUNITY.
05:40:47PM WE ARE NONE OF US IN FAVOR OF THE PARKING AND THE -- THE
05:40:52PM COMPLETELY NEBULOUS KIND OF DESCRIPTION THAT WE WERE AGAIN.
05:40:57PM WE WERE NOT TOLD -- WE HAD MANY QUESTIONS AND NO ANSWERS.
05:41:01PM NO SPECIFIC ANSWERS.
05:41:02PM HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE YOU ANTICIPATING?
05:41:04PM HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU GOING TO EXPECT TO BE COMING TO YOUR
05:41:10PM PUBLIC EVENTS?
05:41:11PM WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK?
05:41:13PM NONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.
05:41:14PM FOR THAT REASON, OUR FEELING AS THE NORTH HYDE PARK
05:41:20PM COMMUNITY HERE IN SUPPORT OF ARMORY GARDENS IS THAT YOU
05:41:23PM SHOULD PLEASE DENY THIS REQUEST.
05:41:24PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:41:25PM >> DON'T USE THEM ALL BUT GOOD TO HAVE THEM.
05:41:53PM I AM JEFFREY BALL, THE PRESIDENT OF ARMORY GARDENS CIVIC
05:41:58PM ASSOCIATION AND I LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TEN YEARS.
05:42:00PM ACTUALLY LIVED IN TWO DIFFERENT HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:42:02PM I LOVED IT SO MUCH, I WENT AND UPGRADED MY FAMILY AND MOVED
05:42:06PM CLOSER TO THE PARK.
05:42:07PM YOU ARE AWARE OF THE PARK BEING OUR NEIGHBOR TOO.
05:42:10PM CAME OUT HERE TODAY IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED ZONING FOR
05:42:14PM SOME GREAT LEGAL AND SPECIFICS ON SOME OF THOSE ASPECTS, BUT
05:42:18PM KIND OF JUST FROM -- HEARING FROM RESIDENTS, SPECIFICALLY AT
05:42:22PM THE MEETING AND OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD, THEY HE CAN
05:42:26PM DOE SOME OF OUR MAJOR CONCERNS AROUND WHAT ADDITIONAL
05:42:30PM DENSITY WILL DO AND BRING TO WHAT YOU SAW IS A NEW CORRIDOR
05:42:34PM THAT CURRENTLY IS ALL RESIDENTIAL OR RESIDENTIAL OFFICE USE.
05:42:37PM AND A LOT OF CONCERN FROM ME PERSONALLY AS I USED TO LIVE
05:42:41PM NEAR -- I CAN SEE WHAT HIGH INTENSITY CAN DO WHEN IT PLEAD
05:42:46PM INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOW I LIVE CLOSE TO VILA BROTHERS
05:42:50PM PARK AND THIS SITE, AND I APPRECIATE -- THE RABBI HAS A
05:42:53PM GREAT VISION AND IT SOUNDED RIGHT AND BRINGS A LOT OF VALUE
05:42:56PM TO THE TAMPA BAY AREA, BUT IT IS GOING TO HAVE MORE OF A
05:42:59PM NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR RESIDENCES AND OUR STREETS FROM A
05:43:04PM SAFETY AND SECURITY PERSPECTIVE.
05:43:05PM YOU KNOW, OVERALL, JUST WANT TO SHEAR THAT OUR COMMUNITY, WE
05:43:12PM WANTED TO HEAR OUT WHAT WAS PROPOSED THERE.
05:43:15PM OPEN TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE WHOLE VISION WAS, THE NEW
05:43:18PM VISION WAS, HOW IT DO BE CONTINUE TO.
05:43:20PM THROW OUT SOME IDEAS THAT MIGHT HAVE HELPED, BUT I DON'T
05:43:24PM THINK THE VISION OR WHAT WAS SAID BEFORE, THE GROWTH OF THIS
05:43:27PM CONGREGATION AND THE SITE IS STILL, YOU KNOW, SAME SIZED
05:43:31PM SITE AS 2013 WILL ALLOW HIS VISION TO TAKE PLACE IN OUR
05:43:36PM NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT HAVING SIGNIFICANT DETRIMENT TO OUR
05:43:41PM RESIDENTS.
05:43:42PM I THINK KIND COUNTY OF THE MAIN POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE.
05:43:47PM WE ASK THAT YOU DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE REZONING BASED ON
05:43:51PM THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE CLEAR LEGAL LANGUAGE
05:43:55PM THAT CALLS TO LIGHT THIS IS A MAJOR OVERHAUL BOTH FROM THE
05:43:59PM PLAN PERSPECTIVE AND OUR PERSPECTIVE FROM RESIDENTS OF THAT
05:44:02PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:44:02PM THANK YOU.
05:44:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:44:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS RICHIE HAS TWO NAMES.
05:44:21PM KATE KETEL AND KYLE SHEPHERD.
05:44:25PM THANK YOU.
05:44:26PM TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
05:44:27PM TOTAL OF TV.
05:44:28PM >> HI, MY NAME IS ABBY RICHIE.
05:44:32PM I LIVE IN ARMORY GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO.
05:44:35PM I AM ON NORTH GOMEZ AVENUE BETWEEN NORTH A AND NORTH B.
05:44:40PM I WANTED TO START OFF BY SAYING PUBLIC SPEAKING IS NOT
05:44:43PM MY THING.
05:44:44PM BEAR WITH ME.
05:44:45PM I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE.
05:44:47PM BUT I AM TALKING TODAY BECAUSE I WANTED TO SHARE WHY I AM
05:44:50PM AGAINST THIS CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:44:54PM IT WILL RESULT IN MORE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ISSUES IN THE
05:44:57PM COMMUNITY.
05:44:57PM AND BEFORE I EVEN SHARE THE STORY THAT I HAVE, I ALSO WANTED
05:45:00PM TO BRIEFLY MENTION THAT EVEN BEFORE WHAT HAPPENED TO MY SON,
05:45:05PM YOU KNOW, MY FAMILY USED TO GO ON -- ON NEIGHBORHOOD WALKS
05:45:09PM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE TIME.
05:45:11PM AND WE STOPPED DOING THAT BECAUSE FRANKLY IT WAS JUST TOO
05:45:14PM STRESSFUL TO WORRY ABOUT KEEPING OUR KIDS YOU SAFE FROM ALL
05:45:17PM THE CARS DRIVING.
05:45:18PM HOWEVER MY PERSONAL STORY IS THAT -- WHY I'M SO OPPOSED TO
05:45:26PM THIS.
05:45:26PM INCREASE TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR STREETS.
05:45:28PM AND WHAT HAPPENED TO ME HAPPENED JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO.
05:45:31PM MY SON ON DECEMBER 18, MY FOUR-YEAR-OLD DONE, BECKETT, WAS
05:45:36PM HIT BY A CAR IN A HIT-AND-RUN.
05:45:38PM HE WAS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
05:45:41PM HE WAS HIT BY SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:45:45PM THEY WERE CUTTING THROUGH ON GOMEZ.
05:45:47PM HE WAS STRIVING TOO FAST AND HIT MY SON, THE FRONT OF HIS
05:45:52PM CAR.
05:45:52PM BECKETT WAS THROWN 30 FEET.
05:45:55PM WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY MEASURED THE DISTANCE.
05:45:58PM AND LANDED IN OUR DRIVEWAY.
05:46:00PM I WITNESSED THE ENTIRE THING.
05:46:02PM WHEN I RAN UP TO HIM AND SCOOPED HIM UP OFF THE DRIVEWAY, I
05:46:07PM WAS CERTAIN THAT HIS SKULL WAS OPEN.
05:46:10PM HIS BRAIN EXPOSED.
05:46:12PM I ACTUALLY DO KNOW A FAIR AMOUNT ABOUT HEAD INJURY AS WELL.
05:46:16PM AND BASED ON WHAT I SAW AND THE AMOUNT OF BLOOD THAT I SAW
05:46:19PM IT WAS TERRIFYING.
05:46:20PM IT -- BECKETT HAD ENDED UP UNDERNEATH THAT CAR HE COULD HAVE
05:46:27PM WELL COULD HAVE DIED.
05:46:28PM IF I COULD ALSO TALK A LOT LONGER FOR THE LONG-TERM
05:46:34PM IMPLICATIONS FOR BECKETT AND OUR FAMILY AND ALL OF THAT AS
05:46:37PM WELL.
05:46:37PM BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO GUYS TO UNDERSTAND THAT OBVIOUSLY I
05:46:43PM DON'T SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
05:46:44PM YOU KNOW, THE -- THE COMMUNITY OF FAMILIES THAT WE HAVE IS
05:46:48PM ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH TOO MANY TRAFFIC ISSUES.
05:46:51PM PARKING ISSUES.
05:46:53PM WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE.
05:46:56PM ONE LAST THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION.
05:46:59PM LAST WEEK WHEN WE MET WITH THE RABBI, HE MENTIONED THAT --
05:47:02PM YOU KNOW, HE HAD TRUST THAT THE PEOPLE GOING -- WOULD DO THE
05:47:06PM RIGHT THING WITH REGARD TO RESPONSIBLE PARKING AND DRIVING
05:47:09PM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:47:09PM DESPITE NOT HAVING ENOUGH PARKING SPACES FOR THEMSELVES.
05:47:13PM WHILE I WOULD LOVE TO BELIEVE AND BE CONFIDENT THAT PEOPLE
05:47:19PM ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING ALL OF THE TIME, THAT IS JUST NOT
05:47:23PM THE REALITY.
05:47:23PM GOOD RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE CAN DO DANGEROUS THINGS AND
05:47:28PM ACCIDENTS CAN HAPPEN.
05:47:29PM I REALLY DOUBT THAT THE GUY THAT HIT MY SON WOKE UP PLANNING
05:47:34PM TO HIT A FOUR-YEAR-OLD.
05:47:35PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:47:42PM JACK ROSS, CITY OF TAMPA.
05:47:44PM 449 SOUTH 12th STREET.
05:47:48PM I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT.
05:47:52PM BY UNDERSTAND FROM THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME UP BEFORE AND
05:47:55PM WHAT YOU ARE NOW CONSIDERING IS THE CONTINUITY AND
05:47:59PM CONSISTENCY OF COMMUNITY.
05:48:01PM IT IS IMPORTANT THOUGH TO CONSIDER THAT NOT IN THE VACUUM OF
05:48:06PM WHO THE APPLICANT IS, THERE IS NOTHING MORE COMMUNAL THAN TO
05:48:10PM HAVE MUCH ASSOCIATION.
05:48:12PM BY KNOW THAT IS MY SUBJECTIVE ANALYSIS, BUT THEY ARE A
05:48:16PM GLOBAL ORGANIZATION AND EXIST IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND URBAN
05:48:19PM AREAS AND RURAL AREAS, AND THEY BRING COMMUNITY.
05:48:23PM IN EVERY SENSE OF WHAT COMMUNITY MEANS.
05:48:25PM IN ADDITION, THE ORGANIZATION AND MENDY HIMSELF IS A PART OF
05:48:31PM THE JJC FEDERATION AT THE GLAZER OF JCC.
05:48:38PM THEIR RECEPTION OF CONSTITUENTS IN THEIR COMMUNITY, THEY
05:48:42PM DON'T MAKE ANY QUALMS ABOUT RACE AND GENDER AND ETC.
05:48:48PM IT IS TRULY A BUILDING BLOCK OF COMMUNITY AND I DON'T THINK
05:48:51PM ANYTHING MORE CONSISTENT THAN WHAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING
05:48:54PM TONIGHT AND I ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE APPLICATION.
05:48:55PM THANK YOU.
05:48:56PM >> GOOD EVENING, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
05:49:13PM DELORES SIMINIT.
05:49:19PM I AM A RESIDENT OF TAMPA MY FAMILY ARE FLORIDIANS.
05:49:23PM I WAS BORN IN NEW YORK BECAUSE MY PARENTS CAME TO NEW YORK
05:49:26PM AT A TIME AFTER WORLD WAR II WHEN THERE WERE MANY JOBS, BUT
05:49:30PM THEY CAME BACK TO FLORIDA IN THE 1980s.
05:49:32PM I STAYED.
05:49:33PM WENT TO SCHOOL.
05:49:34PM AND I AM BACK.
05:49:35PM I RETIRED AFTER 40 -- ALMOST 20 YEARS IN MEDICINE, AND I
05:49:40PM RETIRED AND CAME BACK TO FLORIDA.
05:49:42PM WHY DID I CHOOSE TAMPA?
05:49:45PM I WAS NOT GOING TO CHOOSE TAMPA.
05:49:46PM I WAS GOING TO NORTHERN FLORIDA.
05:49:48PM BUT I HAVE BEEN IN IT THE -- IN JUDAISM FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
05:49:54PM AND I WENT TO VARIOUS SYNAGOGUES.
05:49:58PM AND I CAME TO RABBI MENDY'S SYNAGOGUE AND I SAID, YES.
05:50:04PM WHY WAS THIS?
05:50:05PM IN NEW YORK, I -- I HAD OPPORTUNITIES OF LIVING IN VERY NICE
05:50:13PM PLACES, BUT ME ALONE, GOING TO APPLY, THERE WAS QUESTIONS.
05:50:19PM OH, IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOING TO CHANGE?
05:50:22PM BUT WHAT DID I DO?
05:50:24PM I EMBRACED THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:50:25PM AND I BECAME A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE POINT WHERE
05:50:30PM SOMETIMES WHEN I RENTED, THEY WOULD NOT INCREASE MY
05:50:35PM REPRESENT OR DECREASE MY RENT BECAUSE I BECAME A PART OF THE
05:50:38PM COMMUNITY.
05:50:38PM SO WHEN I CAME DOWN AND I CAME TO THIS PARTICULAR SYNAGOGUE,
05:50:42PM I WAS WELCOMED.
05:50:44PM DOES THAT MEAN EVERY PLACE I GO I AM WELCOMED?
05:50:47PM ABSOLUTELY NOT, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
05:50:49PM I WAS WELCOMED AND I CHOSE TAMPA AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU
05:50:54PM GO INTO A COMMUNITY, YOU HEAR.
05:50:57PM YOU HAVE TO LISTEN.
05:50:58PM YOU HAVE TO RESPECT.
05:50:59PM AND YOU HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE.
05:51:02PM YOU MUST BE.
05:51:03PM AND I HEAR ABOUT THE MOVEMENT AND THE TRAFFIC, AND I KNOW
05:51:08PM HOW NARROW THE STREETS ARE.
05:51:10PM SO YOU MAKE PROVISIONS.
05:51:12PM YOU DON'T ALLOW A PERSON TO COME TO THE SYNAGOGUE, ONE
05:51:17PM PERSON IN A CAR.
05:51:18PM YOU GROUP THEM UP AND THEN YOU HAVE SPECIAL PEOPLE TO REMOVE
05:51:21PM THE CAR.
05:51:22PM THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO.
05:51:24PM SO THAT YOU CAN CONGEST AN AREA.
05:51:27PM YOU HAVE TO HEAR THE COMMUNITY.
05:51:28PM I AGREE NO ONE WANTS A -- A COMMUNITY WITH TRAFFIC ALL THE
05:51:32PM TIME.
05:51:33PM AND ALSO, DO YOU WANT THOSE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE
05:51:36PM GOING TO EMBRACE THE COMMUNITY.
05:51:38PM AND NOT EVERY -- NOT EVERY CHURCH, NOT EVERY SYNAGOGUE DOES,
05:51:44PM BUT THIS ONE DOES.
05:51:45PM SO I AM SAYING TOP LOOK AT THE -- AT THE SYNAGOGUE AND THE
05:51:50PM CENTER AND HOW IS IT GOING TO BE POSITIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
05:51:54PM BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT.
05:51:56PM YOU DO NOT -- AND ANOTHER THING I WANT TO ASK.
05:51:59PM HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE HERE IN 1959?
05:52:03PM ANYONE HERE?
05:52:04PM YAY!
05:52:05PM THANK YOU.
05:52:05PM SO WAS I.
05:52:07PM THAT IS TRUE.
05:52:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MA'AM, YOU ARE SPEAKING TO THE COUNCIL,
05:52:14PM PLEASE.
05:52:14PM >> SORRY.
05:52:16PM IN THAT TIME -- IN THE 1950s AND 1960S I CAME.
05:52:20PM THIS IS NOT THE TAMPA OF 1960.
05:52:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 30 SECONDS MORE.
05:52:24PM >> IT HAS CHANGED FOR THE BETTER AND WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE
05:52:28PM FOR THE BETTER IF YOU LISTEN AND RESPECT AND BE FLEXIBLE.
05:52:31PM THAT'S IT.
05:52:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IN CHAMBERS, I
05:52:36PM UNDERSTAND YOUR ZEAL FOR YOUR COMMUNITY; HOWEVER, PLEASE DO
05:52:42PM NOT SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING.
05:52:44PM I WILL ASK YOU TO PLEASE NOT APPLAUD.
05:52:48PM AND IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW THOSE RULES, I AM GOING TO ASK
05:52:51PM EVERYONE TO LEAVE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE APPLICANT AND
05:52:54PM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEAKING.
05:52:55PM PLEASE, AND THANK YOU.
05:52:59PM YES, MA'AM.
05:53:00PM >> HI, CHERYL PALMER.
05:53:04PM 9108 BAY CLUB COURT.
05:53:07PM ALTHOUGH I DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA, I ATTEND THE HADDAD HERE.
05:53:12PM I AM A MEMBER OF JCC AND I AM CONSTANTLY IN THE AREA WE ARE
05:53:17PM DESCRIBING.
05:53:17PM ADDITIONALLY I'M HERE AS A PERSON OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO
05:53:21PM I AM A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AGENT.
05:53:23PM SO UNDERSTANDING HOW THESE -- WHAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF AND
05:53:28PM WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE AS WE GO THROUGH THESE PROCESSES AND
05:53:32PM PROCEDURES, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE ANYTHING CAN POTENTIALLY
05:53:35PM HAPPEN THAT YOU HEAR MIGHT.
05:53:37PM BUT THE RABBI IS NOT A PLANNER, AND WE HAVE THEM HERE.
05:53:40PM NOBODY GETS A BUILDING PERMIT UNLESS CERTAIN CRITERIA ARE
05:53:45PM MET.
05:53:45PM AND YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO MEET WITH FIRE AND SAFETY.
05:53:48PM THEY HAVE TO MEET WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS
05:53:52PM INVOLVED WITH THE CITY PLANNING IN ORDER THAT THIS
05:53:55PM EVERYTHING IS MADE RIGHT TO ALLEVIATE ANY CONCERNS THAT THE
05:53:59PM NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE.
05:54:00PM AND NOW THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
05:54:04PM IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ADDRESS, AND I AM SURE
05:54:08PM MODIFY TO ENSURE THAT THOSE IF CONCERNS CAN BE ALLEVIATED.
05:54:13PM AND I DO KNOW I HAD THE PRIVILEGE.
05:54:16PM AND.
05:54:17PM COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, WE ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THE OFFICE
05:54:20PM BUILDINGS AND THE RETAIL AND -- BUT THERE IS THE USE FOR
05:54:26PM PLACES OF WORSHIP.
05:54:27PM AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE -- THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH
05:54:31PM MANY DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS AND THE CHALLENGES, OF COURSE,
05:54:34PM FINDING A LOCATION.
05:54:35PM A LOT THAT WILL PERMIT IT.
05:54:38PM AND THEN ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS OF GROWING OUT OF IT.
05:54:42PM SOME THAT -- THAT IS LEGITIMATE.
05:54:44PM SO IT IS NOT UNCOMMON THAT YOU WOULD SEEK MAKE SURE PAUSE
05:54:49PM YOU DO WANT THIS TO BE NOT A TRANSIENT TYPE OF THEY THINK.
05:54:52PM WE WOULD LIKE OUR PLACES OF WORSHIP THAT I CAN ONLY IMAGINE
05:54:56PM ANY PLACE OF WORSHIP WOULD BE ONLY A BENEFIT TO A COMMUNITY.
05:55:00PM AND I THINK THAT HEARING THE CONCERNS, I UNDERSTAND AS WE
05:55:04PM HEAR IN ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING ON IN TAMPA,
05:55:08PM THE TRAFFIC IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN.
05:55:10PM I KNOW THAT I TRAVEL ARMENIA COMING TO JCC, COMING TO
05:55:15PM THE HADDAD, ARMENIA, UNFORTUNATELY, IS A WIDE ONE-WAY STREET
05:55:22PM AND THINGS HE SET UP RELATIVELY WELL, BUT BETWEEN THE
05:55:29PM CONSTRUCTION THEY CAN SATISFIED THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA IF
05:55:33PM THEY STAY OPEN-MINDED THAT THEIR CONCERNS WILL HAD BEEN
05:55:36PM ADDRESSED.
05:55:37PM I ALSO -- I DO WANT TO SAY I WAS A NEUROCRITICAL CARE NURSE
05:55:41PM AND I AM VERY SORRY FOR THE PERSON THAT SUFFERED SUCH A
05:55:44PM TRAUMA.
05:55:46PM BECAUSE I DO KNOW WHAT THAT IS VERY MUCH FIRSTHAND.
05:55:49PM AND THESE ARE THE THINGS WE WANT TO AVOID.
05:55:52PM THAT IS WHERE I BELIEVE THE HADDAD HOUSE BELIEVE -- AND WITH
05:55:57PM CERTAINTY THAT THEY WOULD NOT BRING -- DO ANYTHING THAT WILL
05:56:02PM BRING ANY HARM TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR TO THE PEOPLE THERE.
05:56:05PM AND TO AC CRESS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY.
05:56:08PM WE HAVE ISRAELI ARMY PERSON WHO IS THERE FOR EVERY MEETING.
05:56:14PM AND THERE IS AVAILABILITY FOR PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE IT WILL
05:56:17PM BE A PLACE THAT WILL BE AN OPEN DOOR.
05:56:19PM SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
05:56:22PM >> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN CITRO AND COUNCIL.
05:56:31PM MY NAME IS JONATHAN GILBERT.
05:56:33PM AND I RISE IN SUPPORT OF CHANGING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
05:56:41PM I WANT TO ENDORSE THE REMARKS BY MR. COLLINS THAT HE MADE
05:56:48PM EARLIER.
05:56:49PM EXCUSE ME, MY NOTES JUST FAILED ME HERE.
05:56:53PM WITHOUT GETTING INTO WHO IS GOING TO BE USING THE PROPERTY,
05:57:00PM WHICH -- AND THE USE THEY ARE GOING TO PUT TO IT, I WOULD
05:57:03PM LIKE TO SAY THAT I READ THE DOCUMENT ONLINE, THE REPORTS OF
05:57:06PM THE DEPARTMENTS AND THE AGENCIES, AND I SEE THAT THEY ARE
05:57:09PM ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE.
05:57:12PM AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO -- JUST LIKE TO ADD MY
05:57:16PM ENDORSEMENT TO THAT THAT I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE.
05:57:19PM AND WISH YOU ALL WILL APPROVE IT.
05:57:21PM THANK YOU.
05:57:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
05:57:23PM >> GOOD EVENING, ANDREW AUBREY, 505 NORTH GOMEZ.
05:57:31PM THE PAST PRESIDENT OF OAKWOOD PARK FOR SEVEN YEARS.
05:57:36PM WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THESE KIND OF CHALLENGES FOR MANY
05:57:39PM YEARS.
05:57:39PM I'M HERE TO SAY THAT I DON'T SUPPORT THIS.
05:57:41PM I THINK THAT THE LAND USE MAP IS HERE FOR A REASON.
05:57:44PM WE SHOULD BE FOLLOWING THAT.
05:57:45PM A LOT OF THE HIGH DENSITY THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS TO THE
05:57:47PM EAST OF THE PROPERTY.
05:57:48PM ARMENIA IS LIKE A HIGHWAY.
05:57:50PM WE ARE ABOUT TO REDO A PARK THAT HAS NO PARKING, EXCEPT ON
05:57:54PM ARMENIA THAT THEY SHARE WITH THE JCC.
05:57:56PM THEY SHARE WITH THE FOUNDRY.
05:57:59PM ALL OF THESE PLACES HAVE GOTTEN REDUCTION OF PARKING BECAUSE
05:58:03PM OF YOU GUYS AND WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT IN THE COMMUNITY
05:58:07PM WE HAVE SEEN EVERY DAY.
05:58:08PM IT IS IN THE PAPER EVERY DAY.
05:58:09PM JCC IS FIGURING OUT.
05:58:12PM HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE JCC.
05:58:16PM MY KIDS GO THERE.
05:58:17PM I SWIM THERE.
05:58:18PM MY KIDS LOVE THE PLACE.
05:58:19PM WE NEED MORE PARKING FOR THE FACILITIES AND DOESN'T FIT.
05:58:23PM SOMEBODY TALKED OF PUTTING FIVE POUNDS IN A ONE-POUND BAG
05:58:27PM AND THAT IS WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE IS GOING ON.
05:58:30PM WE ARE TRYING TO FIT SOMETHING GINORMOUS.
05:58:32PM CHANGING SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE DOWN THE ROAD A VERY
05:58:35PM SLIPPERY SLOPE FOR ALL OF US, OKAY LIKE THEY SAID, ONE, WHAT
05:58:43PM STOPS IT FROM DOING SOMETHING IN A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
05:58:46PM IT IS SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT I DEFINITELY DON'T AGREE
05:58:49PM WITH.
05:58:49PM AND I WILL TELL YOU GUYS TO VOTE THIS DOWN.
05:58:52PM AND TO FIND WAYS.
05:58:55PM YOU KNOW I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT I THINK IT IS TOO
05:58:59PM BIG.
05:58:59PM THE VISION IS WAY TO GRAND FOR THE LOCATION.
05:59:05PM TGH IS BUILDING ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD, A NEW EMERGENCY ROOM.
05:59:13PM GINORMOUS PROPERTY.
05:59:16PM ONLY BUILDING ONE STORY.
05:59:17PM WHY?
05:59:18PM IF WE WANT TO BUILD SO DENSELY AND BUILD THINGS LIKE THIS,
05:59:22PM WHY DIDN'T YOU MANDATE THAT THEY BUILD IT FIVE STORIES TALL
05:59:25PM AND PUT A PARKING GARAGE AND HAVE FUTURE USES AND OTHER
05:59:29PM PEOPLE BUILD AROUND THE AREA.
05:59:30PM NO, BUILDING NOT EVEN DONE.
05:59:32PM ONE STORY.
05:59:32PM BUT THEY HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING.
05:59:34PM SO WHY ARE WE TRYING TO FIT SOMETHING SO BIG IN SUCH A SMALL
05:59:38PM LITTLE BOX.
05:59:38PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
05:59:40PM AND I WILL ASK YOU GUYS TO VOTE THIS DOWN AND VOTE ANY KIND
05:59:44PM OF THIS I THINK THAT WILL SET A BAD PRECEDENT FOR OUR
05:59:46PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:59:46PM WE ARE PREDOMINANTLY A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
05:59:50PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S HOW WE ALL WANT TO STAY.
05:59:53PM THANK YOU.
05:59:54PM >> GOOD EVENING, SHAWN WILSON, ROLLING STREET.
06:00:02PM I LIVE IN THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS FRONTAGE ON SOME
06:00:07PM FAIRLY MAJOR STREETS, FOR EXAMPLE, KENNEDY AND DALE MABRY
06:00:14PM AND WE DEAL WITH IT.
06:00:16PM WHEN YOU -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT -- WHEN I LOOK AT.
06:00:21PM I AM SUPPORTING STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
06:00:23PM I URGE YOU TO ADOPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THIS
06:00:26PM FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
06:00:28PM I THINK IT MAKES SENSE.
06:00:29PM ARMENIA IS A CORRIDOR WHY JUST LIKE IF DALE MABRY AND
06:00:35PM ARMENIA ARE CORRIDORS.
06:00:36PM WHEN I LOOK AT THE MAP I SAW BEFORE AND SAW THE RED ON THE
06:00:41PM RIGHT AND A BROWN ON THE LEFT.
06:00:45PM AND I AM A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER AND ACTIVIST.
06:00:48PM WHY IS IT NOT RED ON THE LEFT.
06:00:50PM BOTH OF THE FRONTAGES ON ARMENIA SHOULD BE THE SAME.
06:00:53PM TO ME THAT MAKES BETTER -- MAKES BETTER PLANNING.
06:00:57PM AND WILL BE EQUIVALENT TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAVING RESIDENTIAL
06:01:05PM ON KENNEDY OR RESIDENTIAL ON DALE MABRY.
06:01:07PM NOBODY WOULD EVER IMAGINE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE RESIDENTIAL ON
06:01:10PM DALE MABRY ON KENNEDY, BUT WE HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
06:01:14PM RIGHT BEHIND THOSE MORE INTENSE LOTS.
06:01:16PM AND IT WORKS.
06:01:17PM AND SO I THINK THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FROM A PLANNING
06:01:25PM PERSPECTIVE TO ENCOURAGE MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT UP
06:01:28PM ON ARMENIA.
06:01:29PM HALFWAY DOWN THE BLOCK.
06:01:32PM NO.
06:01:32PM RIGHT UP ON ARMENIA, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND I URGE YOU TO
06:01:36PM ADOPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF, I
06:01:40PM BELIEVE, THE OTHER BOARDS WHO HAVE LOOKED AT IT AND APPROVED
06:01:44PM THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
06:01:46PM I DO AGREE WITH THE ONE COMMENT THAT THE PRIOR PERSON MADE
06:01:49PM THAT WE SHOULD SEE FOUR OR FIVE-STORY BUILDINGS ALL UP AND
06:01:52PM DOWN KENNEDY BUT WILL TAKE DECADES TO HAPPEN AND THOSE ARE
06:01:55PM -- THOSE ARE BIGGER -- BIGGER ISSUES TO DEAL WITH.
06:01:59PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND GOOD LUCK VOTING.
06:02:01PM THANK YOU.
06:02:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:02:06PM >> CAN I PUT THIS ON THE PROJECTOR?
06:02:09PM THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS AGAIN TO ME.
06:02:12PM ANY NAME IS DAVID GOLDSHEEN.
06:02:14PM THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.
06:02:17PM MENDY ASKED FOR ME TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU GUYS.
06:02:21PM 2333 WEST CYPRESS STREET I OWN THE PROPERTY.
06:02:26PM SO A BLOCK AWAY WHERE THIS PROPOSED BUILDING WILL BE.
06:02:28PM I AM A MEMBER OF THE CONGREGATION.
06:02:31PM AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO FINALLY SEEING MENDY'S VISION
06:02:37PM IN THIS AREA.
06:02:38PM I REMEMBER SPEAKING BEFORE YOU GUYS -- NOT ALL OF YOU GUYS
06:02:43PM -- A FEW YEARS AGO APPROVED FOR A CRA THAT HELPED ME APPROVE
06:02:49PM -- IMPROVE THAT CORNER OF KENNEDY -- SORRY, SIGH CYPRESS AND
06:02:56PM ARMENIA.
06:02:56PM THAT IS MY DENTAL OFFICE, AND I THINK THE CHANGE IS PRETTY
06:02:59PM POSITIVE.
06:03:00PM THE COMMENTS I GET FOR WHAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP WITH
06:03:03PM MY VISION -- BECAUSE I WAS SCARED.
06:03:05PM I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT EITHER.
06:03:07PM I KNEW I WANTED TO BUILD SOMETHING GREAT.
06:03:09PM NOT JUST ON THE INSIDE, BECAUSE A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS
06:03:13PM FOCUS ON HOW CAN I MAKE THE MOST MONEY.
06:03:15PM BUT I WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE OUTSIDE AND HOW CAN I REALLY
06:03:19PM TAKE MY VISION AND MAKE THE OUTSIDE OF THIS BUILDING AND
06:03:22PM WHAT I DO WITH THIS CORNER BE EVERYTHING THAT I WANT TO DO
06:03:26PM INSIDE.
06:03:26PM AND I BELIEVE THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN WITH MENDY.
06:03:30PM HE BEEN A FRIEND OF THE FAMILY AND THE CONGREGANT FOR WELL
06:03:35PM OVER A DECADE NOW AND I HAVE SEEN HOW HE HAS GROWN FROM HIS
06:03:38PM HOUSE TO A VERY SMALL UPSTAIRS BUILDING TO A NEW BUILDING,
06:03:42PM AND I THINK THIS WILL ONLY FURTHER ENHANCE THIS.
06:03:45PM EVERYTHING THEY DO IS GREAT.
06:03:47PM IT IS DONE WELL.
06:03:48PM IT IS DONE BEAUTIFULLY.
06:03:50PM I HAVE THIS BOOK THAT IS GIVEN TO ME.
06:03:57PM DEED AND PROPERTIES DATING BACK TO THE 1870s WHEN BENJAMIN
06:04:03PM -- WEST TAMPA WAS ALL LAID OUT.
06:04:05PM I AM HONORED TO HAVE THIS BOOK.
06:04:07PM IT HAS A VISION OF WHAT THIS COMMUNITY WAS BACK FROM THE
06:04:11PM 1870s WHEN IT WAS BOUGHT FOR $.60 AN ACRE AND HOW FAR WE
06:04:24PM HAVE COME FROM THE 1870s TO 2023.
06:04:26PM I AM IN FULL SUPPORT.
06:04:27PM THIS WILL BE A WONDERFUL STRUCTURE.
06:04:30PM I DON'T THINK THAT THE DANGER ALSO COME FOR PEOPLE DRIVING
06:04:32PM ERRATICALLY WHEN GOING TO SYNAGOGUE.
06:04:37PM AND ALSO, I HAPPEN TO HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING THAT WON'T BE
06:04:40PM USED AT THAT TIME.
06:04:41PM I WON'T SAY PLENTY.
06:04:44PM PARKING IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE AS WE KNOW IN SOUTH TAMPA.
06:04:47PM I AM A BLOCK AWAY.
06:04:48PM AND I WILL DEFINITELY -- I WAS ASKED IF I NEED TO BE AN
06:04:52PM OVERFLOW PARKING, I HAVE NO PROBLEM BEING IN OVERFLOW
06:04:55PM PARKING THAT IS A BLOCK AWAY.
06:04:57PM JUST LIKE THE LAWYER WHO IS RIGHT BEHIND ME, WE SHARED
06:05:02PM PARKING AT TIMES WHEN WE NEEDED BETWEEN EACH OTHER.
06:05:05PM SO -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
06:05:09PM ASKED VERY LAST MINUTE TO COME UP HERE, BUT I KNOW HOW SCARY
06:05:13PM THIS IS.
06:05:13PM I KNOW GOING BEFORE ALL THE ZONING AND PLANNING AND
06:05:16PM EVERYTHING I WENT THROUGH STRUGGLING WHEN I LOST MY BUILDING
06:05:20PM AND HAD TO GET OPEN AND TRY TO KEEP MY BUSINESS ALIVE.
06:05:24PM SO I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS.
06:05:27PM AND I WANT YOU TO -- TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT AND
06:05:30PM HOPEFULLY STAND IN FAVOR.
06:05:31PM THANK YOU.
06:05:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:05:35PM >> JANICE KATZ.
06:05:47PM I LIVE IN ARMORY GARDENS AND THE SECRETARY OF ARMORY GARDENS
06:05:52PM AND A RESIDENTIAL REALTOR IN THE AREA.
06:05:55PM IT IS A PASSION WHEN I SEE DEVELOPERS TRY TO COME IN TRY TO
06:05:59PM TWEAK THE PROPERTY TO MAKE THINGS THEY WANT TO AND NOT WHAT
06:06:02PM IS BEST IN OUR FEELINGS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.
06:06:08PM I WANT TO TELL YOU, FIRST OF ALL, THAT WE WELCOME THE HADDAD
06:06:14PM INTO THE COMMUNITY WITH OPEN ARMS.
06:06:16PM IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE A -- A RELIGIOUS ENTITY IN YOUR
06:06:20PM COMMUNITY.
06:06:21PM SO THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT AT ALL.
06:06:24PM BUT YOU CAN NOT TAKE A QUARTER OF AN ACRE LOT AND BUILD
06:06:30PM ALMOST A 12,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING ON IT.
06:06:34PM IT IS LIKE TAKING THE WHOLE LOT.
06:06:36PM I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, THIS AREA, A QUARTER-ACRE LOT IS
06:06:42PM FANTASTIC.
06:06:42PM TO TAKE THAT AND TAKE THAT WHOLE LOT AND TO BUILD -- EVEN IF
06:06:46PM YOU ARE GOING UPWARD AND TAKE 11,000 SQUARE FEET.
06:06:49PM YOU GOT -- AND OUR AREA TAJ MAHAL UP THIS.
06:06:53PM IT IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY TALL.
06:06:56PM AND UNNECESSARY IN THE COMMUNITY.
06:06:59PM AND IT IS NOT GOING TO HAVE IN THAT AREA THE NECESSARY --
06:07:12PM THEY HAVE LESSENED 6,000 SQUARE FOOT ENTITY.
06:07:15PM SO IF THEY DIDN'T GET THAT CHANGE IN PLANS WHICH THEY KNEW
06:07:25PM RIGHT AWAY WHAT IT WAS ZONED FOR WHEN THEY PURCHASED THIS
06:07:29PM PROPERTY, THIS TPD OF BUILDING.
06:07:30PM THEY COULD HAVE BUILT SOMETHING AND STUCK WITH IT.
06:07:37PM AND KEPT WHAT THEY NEEDED.
06:07:39PM I REALLY DO BELIEVE IT WOULD BE FEASIBLE TO HAVE EVERYTHING
06:07:43PM THAT YOU NEED AND PUT IN THAT 6,000 SQUARE FEET AND STILL BE
06:07:47PM DESIRABLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
06:07:49PM BUT I THINK, UNFORTUNATELY, THEN, YOU SAY, WELL, LET'S TRY
06:07:53PM TO GO AND TWEAK IT WITH THE CITY.
06:07:56PM AND THAT IS UNFORTUNATELY WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO IN THE
06:08:01PM CITY AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE A CITY THAT WILL GO WITH THE
06:08:06PM DEVELOPERS AND GO WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND IF -- IF THERE IS
06:08:09PM NOT ALWAYS OPPOSITION TO THE DEVELOPERS.
06:08:12PM AND WE NEED THAT BECAUSE WE ARE ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
06:08:15PM AND I HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNION FOR THE SEVEN YEARS
06:08:21PM I HAVE BEEN THERE AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND LET'S HAVE A
06:08:25PM NICE WALKING COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS IN OUR
06:08:29PM COMMUNITY AND SAY KEEP THE BUILDING WITHIN WHAT IS SUPPOSED
06:08:32PM TO BE.
06:08:33PM DENY THE REQUEST FOR A CHANGE, AND LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY
06:08:37PM ELEVEN HAPPILY EVER AFTER.
06:08:39PM THANK YOU.
06:08:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:08:42PM >> HELLO, I LIVE IN -- I'M HERE TO SUPPORT HADDAD.
06:08:56PM I DIDN'T COME PREPARED TO SAY ANYTHING BUT I DECIDED THAT
06:08:59PM SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO MENTION TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION
06:09:02PM IS THAT IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT HADDAD DOES, IT IS ALWAYS
06:09:07PM THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
06:09:09PM AND I AM SURE THE -- IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BE THERE, THEY
06:09:14PM ARE ONLY GOING TO BRING GOOD THINGS TO IT THE COMMUNITY.
06:09:17PM IF THE PROBLEM IS THE PARKING AND SAFETY AND THE TRAFFIC
06:09:24PM THERE, MAYBE THEY CAN -- EVERYBODY CAN PARK AT THE JCC AND
06:09:29PM MAY BE NO HER SOLUTION FOR THAT IF THAT IS THE THEY THINK.
06:09:31PM WHICH I WANTED TO BRING UP.
06:09:36PM SOMETHING I WAS FORGETTING.
06:09:39PM TAMPA IS GROWING, AND WE NEED A PLACE TO -- TO -- TO EXPRESS
06:09:47PM OURSELF AND TO IT THE WAY WE WANT.
06:09:53PM AND WE NEED A PLACE.
06:09:55PM WE NEED A PLACE.
06:09:56PM AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORS, BUT -- IT IS A HARD
06:10:01PM SITUATION.
06:10:01PM ANYWAY, I WANTED TO SAY THAT THEY ONLY DO THINGS FOR THE
06:10:05PM COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME.
06:10:06PM THANK YOU.
06:10:07PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCILMEN.
06:10:18PM IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU AGAIN.
06:10:21PM AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:10:22PM MY NAME IS MARTHA VILA.
06:10:24PM I LIVE AT 3209 WEST.
06:10:29PM I SPENT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME.
06:10:36PM THE COMMUNITY KNOWN AS ARMORY GARDENS, THE HOME OF THE VILA
06:10:41PM BROTHERS PARK.
06:10:42PM THIS PARK WAS MADE IN HONOR TO THE MILITARY SERVICE OF SEVEN
06:10:47PM BROTHERS FROM THIS AREA.
06:10:49PM AND THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO OUR FREEDOM POP.
06:10:51PM THE STORY YOU ALL KNOW WELL.
06:10:54PM I STAND BEFORE YOU AGAIN TODAY ASKING THAT YOU PROTECT THE
06:10:58PM VALUE OF PARK FOR THE RESIDENTS OF ARMORY GARDENS AND TO
06:11:04PM MAKE AN EFFORT TO SECURE THE PARKING AROUND THE PARK FOR THE
06:11:08PM USE OF ITS RESIDENTS.
06:11:09PM THE VIBRANT ARMORY GARDENS COMMUNITY HAS PATIENTLY WORKED
06:11:16PM AND WAITED FOR 18 YEARS FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES TO
06:11:19PM USE THIS WONDERFUL FACILITY.
06:11:21PM AND NOT TO HAMPER ACCESS.
06:11:24PM IT ONLY JEOPARDIZES THE SUCCESS FOR WHICH THE PARK WAS
06:11:29PM INTENDED.
06:11:29PM FOR THIS REASON, I RECOMMEND THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS
06:11:34PM DENIED.
06:11:36PM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR IF HELP, PAST HELP, AND LOOK FORWARD TO
06:11:41PM SEEING YOU AT THE OPENING OF THIS BEAUTIFUL RED, WHITE AND
06:11:44PM BLUE PARK.
06:11:45PM AND DON'T FORGET MY BIRTHDAY.
06:11:47PM [LAUGHTER]
06:11:50PM [APPLAUSE]
06:12:09PM >> GOOD EVENING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
06:12:12PM I HEARD A LOT OF TALK HOW WONDERFUL THIS SIN GOING IS FOR
06:12:16PM THE COMMUNITY AND THEY NEVER HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING UNTIL
06:12:19PM THEY WERE REQUESTED FOR BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, TWICE.
06:12:22PM AND COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR THE THIRD TIME.
06:12:26PM THEN THEY DECIDE IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.
06:12:29PM I WASN'T THERE, BUT YOU ALL KNOW I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HIGHWAY
06:12:33PM THERE.
06:12:33PM AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY
06:12:36PM ARE KIND OF SPEAKING THE SAME THING THEY SPOKE AT THE
06:12:38PM MEETING.
06:12:39PM BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
06:12:40PM I PUT UP ON THE OVERHEAD THIS NMU.
06:12:47PM LOOK AT THAT.
06:12:47PM OH, MY GOODNESS.
06:12:49PM THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LOT -- NOW THIS IS
06:12:55PM 11,325-SQUARE-FOOT LOT.
06:12:56PM THAT IS THE LOT THAT A SINGLE-FAMILY IS ON.
06:12:58PM IT IS A BIGGER LOT, BUT NOT A HUGE LOT FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY
06:13:04PM HOME.
06:13:04PM BUT TO PUT A 11,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING ON THAT IS ABSURD.
06:13:11PM THE 6,000 SQUARE FEET IS PLENTY.
06:13:17PM CARROLL ANNE AND I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS QUITE A BIT.
06:13:20PM I HAVE TO AGREE WITH CARROLL.
06:13:24PM ANNE, I THINK THIS MAY GET SOLD AS SOON AS THE LAND USE
06:13:28PM CHANGES ON IT.
06:13:29PM PLEASE, PLEASE, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORS
06:13:33PM ARE SAYING.
06:13:33PM AND I HONESTLY THINK THAT WE HAVE SPENT A LOT MORE TIME ON
06:13:37PM THIS THAN IT WOULD HAVE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A RABBI LEADING
06:13:41PM THE CHARGE ON IT.
06:13:43PM I THINK THAT EVERYBODY IN THIS CITY DESERVES TO HAVE THE
06:13:46PM SAME VOICE.
06:13:47PM AND IF THEY ARE SO WONDERFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY, HOW MANY
06:13:51PM CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS DO THEY HAVE.
06:13:53PM SORRY, ACELA DIDN'T WORK THIS AFTERNOON SO I COULDN'T LOOK
06:13:59PM IT UP.
06:13:59PM MY UNDERSTANDING MANY CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS ON THIS
06:14:02PM PROPERTY.
06:14:02PM IF YOU ARE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, YOU DON'T BELIEVE TRASH LAYING
06:14:06PM AROUND.
06:14:06PM IF YOU ARE A NEIGHBOR, YOU CUT YOUR GRASS.
06:14:10PM IF YOU ARE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, YOU ARE NOT PUSHING PEOPLE'S
06:14:13PM FEED.
06:14:14PM BACK.
06:14:14PM MR. BENTLEY SAID, WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES.
06:14:17PM WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES TO PROPOSE.
06:14:20PM YES, THEY DID WHAT YOU ASKED THEM TO DO.
06:14:22PM BUT WAS IT FLUFF?
06:14:24PM OR WAS IT REAL?
06:14:26PM Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
06:14:28PM >> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE
06:14:45PM OPPORTUNITY OF TALKING TONIGHT.
06:14:46PM I CAME TO TAMPA OVER 30 YEARS AGO AS THE CITY'S CONSULTANT
06:14:52PM TO GET THE STRAZ BUILT, WHICH WAS DONE AND COMPLETED AND WE
06:14:56PM ALL ENJOY.
06:14:57PM I WAS NEXT THE CONSULTANT FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER WHICH A
06:15:05PM PROUD ADDITION TO TAMPA'S BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
06:15:07PM I HAVE LIVED IN HYDE PARK FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS.
06:15:11PM AND DURING THAT TIME, I HAVE BECOME FAMILIAR WITH NOT
06:15:17PM ONLY MENDY BUT MENDY'S ENTIRE FAMILY.
06:15:21PM I HAVE ATTENDED SERVICES IN HIS FATHER'S SYNAGOGUE.
06:15:24PM AND MENDY'S SYNAGOGUE.
06:15:28PM I CAN ASSURE YOU MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT WHAT IS PROPOSED BY
06:15:33PM MENDY WILL BE HONORED AS BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
06:15:38PM I HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE PRELIMINARY PLANS AND DRAWINGS FOR
06:15:41PM THIS BUILDING.
06:15:42PM AND IT IS NOT A BLUNT COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
06:15:45PM IT IS MORE RESIDENTIAL IN STYLE.
06:15:48PM IT ALSO HAS THE PROVISIONS, AS FAR AS I RECALL, TO HAVE
06:15:54PM PARKING BELOW THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, THEREFORE
06:15:59PM FREEING UP THE LOT FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING.
06:16:01PM SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS NOT A BUILDING PLUS PARKING.
06:16:05PM BUT IT IS A BUILDING WHICH WILL ACCOMMODATE PARKING WITHIN
06:16:10PM THE BUILDING.
06:16:11PM I THINK THE -- IN CLOSING, I WOULD STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
06:16:19PM ZONING CHANGE FOR THE ACCOMMODATION OF THIS BUILDING.
06:16:22PM I THINK THE HADDAD SYNAGOGUE WILL BE AN EXCELLENT NEIGHBOR
06:16:29PM AND COGNIZANT OF THEIR NEIGHBORS' DESIRES.
06:16:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GIVE US YOUR NAME.
06:16:37PM >> STEWART DONELL.
06:16:40PM 391 SOUTH DAKOTA AVENUE, HYDE, PARK.
06:16:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:16:46PM THEN ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT?
06:16:54PM IF I SEE NO ONE ELSE LINING UP, THIS GENTLEMAN WILL BE THE
06:16:57PM LAST SPEAKER.
06:16:58PM SIR?
06:17:01PM >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS ANGEL ROBINA.
06:17:05PM HE CAME IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THE HADDAD
06:17:09PM SOUTH TAMPA TO HAVE A PLACE OF WORSHIP.
06:17:11PM NOT ONLY A PLACE OF WORSHIP BUT A PLACE OF EDUCATION AND
06:17:15PM FAMILY SUPPORT.
06:17:16PM AND I BELIEVE THAT WITH ALL THE SURROUNDINGS, ALL THE
06:17:22PM NEGATIVE THAT WE HAVE AROUND IN THIS CITY, LIKE PLACES LIKE
06:17:25PM CLUBS, BARS THAT PEOPLE GO TO HAVE ENTERTAINMENT, HAVING A
06:17:29PM PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO TO RECEIVE THE WORD OF GOD AND ALSO TO
06:17:33PM BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY IS A GOOD PLACE TO HAVE IN THIS
06:17:37PM COMMUNITY.
06:17:37PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:17:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:17:40PM PETITIONER, IT IS YOUR TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
06:17:48PM >> CAN I HAVE SIX MINUTES, COUNCIL?
06:17:51PM IS THAT OKAY?
06:17:52PM JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO RYAN AND
06:17:54PM LAST WORD BY THE RABBI.
06:17:56PM JUST A COUPLE OF THESE COMMENTS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF
06:18:04PM THEY INFLUENCED AND SUNK IN.
06:18:07PM MISS BENNETT SAID NMU-24 WHICH WILL ALLOW FOUR PAGES OF USES
06:18:13PM SOME NOT DESIRABLE.
06:18:14PM THAT IS NOT TRUE.
06:18:15PM THE ZONING WILL BE FOR PD.
06:18:17PM RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USES.
06:18:19PM I CAN'T GET INTO ZONING ISSUES, BUT ANY EVENT, NOT OFFICE,
06:18:23PM NOT RETAIL.
06:18:24PM THE EXISTING ZONING IS ALREADY FOR RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT,
06:18:27PM ABOUT THE SAME HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
06:18:29PM THEN MISS POYNOR GOT UP THERE AND SAID SOME -- SOMEWHAT
06:18:35PM IRRESPONSIBLE THINGS THAT SHE HAS NO FIRST KNOWLEDGE OF
06:18:38PM ANYTHING BUT ALLEGED CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS.
06:18:41PM SPECULATED THAT HAD THE CLIENT'S MOTIVATION TO SELL THE
06:18:45PM PROPERTY WHICH IS TOTALLY UNTRUE.
06:18:47PM IT IS HARD TO TAKE THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN SOMEBODY HAS NO
06:18:52PM KNOWLEDGE AND JUST KIND OF PUTTING THE CLIENT IN A BAD
06:18:54PM LIGHT, THE PETITIONER.
06:18:55PM YOU KNOW, IF WE GOT TO ITEM NUMBER 3 -- I MEAN ITEM NUMBER
06:19:02PM 2, YOU GOT THE BACK-UP.
06:19:03PM AND WE HAVE -- WE HAVE METHODS TO ADDRESS THE PARKING
06:19:09PM DEFICIENCY THAT IS REFERENCED IN THE SITE PLAN.
06:19:14PM AND BUT KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET INTO ITEM NUMBER 2 AND
06:19:24PM GET INTO IT AND ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS RAISED KIND OF
06:19:29PM LIKE YOU ARE ENTERING INTO A GUN FIGHT WITH BOTH HAND BEHIND
06:19:33PM YOUR BACK, BUT I CAN'T TALK TO ZONING ISSUES, BUT YOU KIND
06:19:37PM OF HEARD AND HAVE BEEN TEASED WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES
06:19:39PM THROUGH SOME OF THE OPPONENTS HERE TONIGHT.
06:19:41PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO RYAN.
06:19:44PM AND HE IS GOING TO BRA EVILLY GO OVER A COUPLE OF ISSUES.
06:19:47PM AND THE RABBI WOULD LIKE THE LAST WORD.
06:19:51PM >> RYAN MANASSE, EAST JACKSON STREET SUITE 3100.
06:19:58PM I WILL USE THIS WITH YOUR STAFF REPORT WITH FILE NO. TA/CPA
06:20:04PM 22-26.
06:20:04PM SUBJECT SITE IN THESE COLORED AREAS.
06:20:07PM EXISTING LAND USES.
06:20:09PM PINK SIGNIFIES COMMERCIAL USES.
06:20:11PM LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES.
06:20:15PM NOTHING I AM MAKING UP STRAIGHT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION
06:20:18PM REPORT.
06:20:18PM THAT WILL BE IN TUNE WITH MIXED-USE CATEGORY.
06:20:22PM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE-24 IS A CATEGORY WITH LIMITED USES.
06:20:26PM ADDITIONALLY, HERE IS ARMENIA RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.
06:20:31PM LIKE EVERYBODY IS LISTENING, ONE-WAY.
06:20:35PM YOU WILL SEE THESE USES ARE IN TUNE.
06:20:38PM INSTITUTIONAL USES.
06:20:39PM A PARK AND JCC.
06:20:41PM AT THAT PLACE WHERE RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY FURTHER EMBEDDED INTO
06:20:45PM THAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:20:47PM JUST TO POINT OUT TWO, THE ZONING IS RM-16, THE RESIDENTIAL
06:20:52PM MULTIFAMILY.
06:20:53PM UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITHOUT DOING A COMPLETE
06:20:55PM ANALYSIS, I WOULD ASSUME THE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS WILL BE
06:20:59PM UNDER UTILIZED FOR POTENTIAL DENSITY.
06:21:02PM TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE A PRISTINE SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD,
06:21:06PM NOT THE CASE.
06:21:07PM THEY WERE INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE LIGHT GRAY COLOR AND ALSO
06:21:11PM THIS SHOULD BE THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY COLOR.
06:21:14PM THAT IS THE BOUNDARY DIRECTLY EAST.
06:21:17PM TO GO INTO THAT, I WENT THERE THIS MORNING AND I AM STANDING
06:21:21PM ON THE SUBJECT SITE AND TO SHOW YOU THE FOUNDRY WAS DIRECTLY
06:21:27PM EAST.
06:21:27PM ON-STREET PARKING AND 99 GOING SOUTH.
06:21:30PM MORE ON-STREET PARKING GOING SOUTH TO KENNEDY.
06:21:33PM WITH THAT WE FEEL THAT THE IN NMU-24 CATEGORY IS
06:21:40PM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING CATEGORY AND HAVE
06:21:42PM RESIDENTIAL USES.
06:21:42PM ADDITIONALLY WE NEED THE PLANNING COMMISSION -- AND THE
06:21:46PM PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE REQUEST AND
06:21:48PM I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE RABBI.
06:21:49PM >> POINT OUT THE PROPERTY --
06:21:52PM >> HERE IS THE PROPERTY.
06:21:52PM THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE.
06:21:54PM AND I AM STANDING ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE FACING EAST.
06:21:57PM >> THANKS, RYAN.
06:22:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:22:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: RYAN, PUT THAT MAP BACK UP.
06:22:07PM THE ONE WITH THE COLORS.
06:22:08PM I WAS LOOKING AT ARMENIA.
06:22:09PM EVERYTHING ON THE WEST AND EAST IS ALL DESIGNATED
06:22:14PM COMMERCIAL?
06:22:14PM >> SO THIS WOULD BE --
06:22:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL THE WAY UP THAT NASSAU, DOWN SOUTH TO
06:22:20PM GRAY.
06:22:20PM >> CORRECT.
06:22:21PM THIS IS GRAY AND NASSAU.
06:22:23PM THE PINK INDICATE COMMERCIAL USES.
06:22:26PM THE ORANGE IS DUPLEX OR SEMI DETACHED USES SO NOT
06:22:31PM SINGLE-FAMILY.
06:22:31PM ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF ARMENIA, YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL.
06:22:34PM THEN A DUPLEX.
06:22:35PM COMMERCIAL, DUPLEX.
06:22:37PM SINGLE-FAMILY.
06:22:38PM IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF OUR SUBJECT SITE IS AN OFFICE USE AND
06:22:41PM DUPLEX USES.
06:22:42PM AND SOUTH, THERE IS A MIX OF SINGLE-FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL
06:22:45PM USES AND THEN GOING DOWN, YOU CAN SEE IT.
06:22:48PM OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU GET CLOSER TO KENNEDY, THAT PATTERN IS
06:22:53PM PREDOMINANT AND COMES OVER TO THE WEST SEED OF ARMENIA.
06:22:57PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
06:22:58PM >> WHY HE IS.
06:23:03PM >> I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE.
06:23:07PM NOT MY INTENTION WHEN I BEGAN THIS PROCESS.
06:23:10PM I TRIED TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS AS IT WAS PUT IN PLACE.
06:23:13PM I RESPECT AND VALUE THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD TODAY.
06:23:17PM I DO WANT TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE MY
06:23:21PM INTEGRITY IS CHALLENGED HERE.
06:23:22PM I HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING THAT PROJECT OR PARCEL.
06:23:27PM I MADE THAT RIGHT CLEAR.
06:23:28PM I WORKED HARD TO DEVELOP A REPUTATION HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
06:23:31PM WHEN PEOPLE CALL ME A LIAR, THAT IS PERSONALLY INSULTING.
06:23:34PM ADDITIONALLY, I HAD EVERY INTENTION AND I HAVE EVERY
06:23:38PM INTENTION OF WORKING WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
06:23:40PM SOME OF THEM I THINK ARE MORE AMENABLE TO WORKING.
06:23:43PM SOME LESS SOME.
06:23:44PM SOME HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND EVEN BEFORE THIS
06:23:47PM BASED ON CONVERSATIONS THEY HAD IN NOVEMBER WITH CITY STAFF.
06:23:52PM SOME OF THIS LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THAT MAYBE THERE ARE ABOUT
06:23:56PM ULTERIOR MOTIVES WHY THEY DON'T WANT US THERE.
06:23:59PM I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, BUT I DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD
06:24:03PM TO WORKING -- AND HOPEFULLY ADDRESS AND APPEASE SOME OF
06:24:07PM THOSE CHALLENGES AND CONCERNS.
06:24:08PM AND WE DO HAVE SPECIFIC WHY $IN PLACE.
06:24:10PM SPEED BUMPS AND OTHER THINGS THAT CAN SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.
06:24:15PM I TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT WORK SPECIFICALLY IN TRAFFIC TO TRY
06:24:18PM TO COME UP WITH IDEA AND SUGGESTIONS.
06:24:20PM THAT IS MY GOAL.
06:24:21PM THAT IS WHAT I ALWAYS WORKED TOWARD.
06:24:23PM TO CLARIFY, SOMEBODY SAID THAT CURRENTLY WE OPERATE A
06:24:27PM FACILITY WITH 28 SPOTS.
06:24:29PM THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE LIE.
06:24:32PM WE HAVE FIVE SHOTS.
06:24:33PM THEY LOOKED AT AN ADJOINING PARKING LOT.
06:24:36PM WE HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT.
06:24:37PM OUR CURRENT SPACE IS FIVE LOTS AND A HANDICAP.
06:24:42PM JUST AN EXAMPLE THAT PEOPLE PRESENT FACTS THAT ARE NOT
06:24:46PM GROUNDED AND BASED ON TRUTH.
06:24:48PM I WOULD LIKE MY REPUTATION STAND FOR WHAT IT IS AND I HOPE
06:24:51PM YOU TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU VOTE.
06:24:55PM THANK YOU.
06:24:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
06:24:56PM A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:25:06PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:25:08PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:25:09PM ANY OPPOSED?
06:25:10PM MOTION PASSES.
06:25:11PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
06:25:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I JUST MAY ADD.
06:25:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:25:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO
06:25:23PM BOTH SIDE AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE CURIOSITY OUT OF THE
06:25:27PM FACTS AND THE FACT OUT OF THE CURIOSITY.
06:25:29PM THIS IS NOT ABOUT INDIVIDUAL'S REPUTATION.
06:25:33PM NOT ABOUT ANYONE LYING.
06:25:34PM I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE HAS DONE THAT.
06:25:36PM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT -- CERTAINLY WHEN YOU COME TO A HEARING
06:25:40PM ESPECIALLY ON ZONING MATTERS, THERE IS A TIME WHEN
06:25:43PM INDIVIDUALS ON BOTH SIDES -- IT IS SOMETHING THAT CHANGE --
06:25:47PM THE WORD "CHANGE" ALONE BRINGS FEAR.
06:25:50PM AND TO THE PROJECT MATTER, WHATEVER YOU ARE SPEAKING ABOUT.
06:25:54PM THIS IS BASICALLY NOT ABOUT RELIGION.
06:25:57PM NOT ABOUT WHO, WHEN, WHERE OR HOW.
06:25:59PM BUT ONLY ABOUT ONE THING.
06:26:01PM IT IS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL R-20.
06:26:03PM TOP MIXED USE AND NMU-24.
06:26:09PM THAT'S IT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
06:26:11PM NOTHING ELSE ABOUT INDIVIDUALS.
06:26:13PM I BELIEVE THAT -- I KNOW PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES.
06:26:16PM I KNOW MOST OF THEM ON BOTH SIDE AND I THINK THEY ARE GREAT,
06:26:20PM HONEST PEOPLE.
06:26:20PM SOMETIMES EMOTIONS GET TO INDIVIDUALS.
06:26:23PM AND WHEN YOU HEAR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I TOO I TO BLOCK
06:26:28PM THEM ALL OUT.
06:26:29PM IT IS DIFFICULT TO DO THAT, BLOCK THEM ALL OUT.
06:26:32PM MY ONLY THING I AM LOOKING AT IS R-20 TO MU-24 AND THE SIZE
06:26:40PM AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
06:26:42PM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WILL COME HERE, ESPECIALLY FROM
06:26:45PM BEING FROM A SECTOR OF RELIGION THAT IS GOING TO COULD AM IN
06:26:49PM ANY WAY, GET A ZONING AND THEN DO SOMETHING ELSE.
06:26:52PM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
06:26:54PM ALTHOUGH THAT WAS MENTIONED.
06:26:55PM THAT IS BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, NERVOUS ABOUT
06:26:59PM CHANGE.
06:27:00PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
06:27:01PM I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
06:27:02PM WITH THAT, I WILL LISTEN TO THE OTHERS.
06:27:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL GIVE MY COMMENTS.
06:27:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:27:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:27:18PM I ECHO SOME OF WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID.
06:27:21PM SOMETIMES FOLKS GET EMOTIONAL AND SAY THINGS THEY COME TO
06:27:25PM REGRET IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT.
06:27:27PM AND IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THINGS ARE SAID THAT SUCH
06:27:32PM COMMENTS HAVE NO SWAY ON ME WHATSOEVER.
06:27:34PM PROBABLY TO THE CONTRARY.
06:27:37PM WHEN PEOPLE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE NOT -- THAT ARE NOT
06:27:41PM SUPPORTED BY FACTS, IT -- IT TENDS TO MAYBE UNDERMINE
06:27:46PM CERTAIN THINGS IN MY OPINION.
06:27:47PM THIS IS VERY SIMPLE.
06:27:48PM THIS IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
06:27:51PM I PAY SPECIAL DEFERENCE TO THE STAFF REPORT ON THIS AND
06:28:02PM PARTIES AND PERSONALITIES ON BOTH SIDES.
06:28:04PM FROM ONE TO TEN, I RESPECT AS A 11 PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES THAT
06:28:09PM HAVE SPOKEN.
06:28:10PM TO ME THE PERMITS, ETC., ARE VERY LIMITED VALUE IN ASSESSING
06:28:14PM THIS.
06:28:15PM BECAUSE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES.
06:28:17PM PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES FOR WHOM I HAVE AFFECTION AND WHO HAVE.
06:28:21PM SO THAT IS NOT RELEVANT HERE.
06:28:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:28:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW, TONIGHT A DECISION HAS TO BE MADE
06:28:30PM ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
06:28:33PM THAT IS THE REALITY.
06:28:34PM SOMEBODY WILL LEAVE HERE UPSET.
06:28:36PM SOMEBODY WILL LEAVE HERE HAPPY.
06:28:37PM BUT IN MIDST OF IT ALL, BOTH SIDES ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
06:28:44PM GOOD INTENTIONS.
06:28:46PM PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BRING A JOY OR COMFORT TO A
06:28:51PM COMMUNITY THAT CAN HELP BUILD AND STRENGTHEN THE COMMUNITY.
06:28:54PM BUT A DECISION HAS TO BE MADE.
06:28:57PM I ONLY WISH THAT THE PROJECT COULD HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT
06:28:59PM WITH THE COMMUNITY SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT WAS GOING
06:29:02PM TO BE BUILT THERE.
06:29:03PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS OR NOT.
06:29:04PM UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T THINK THAT WAS -- I WASN'T THIS.
06:29:07PM I CAN'T BE THERE.
06:29:08PM BUT YOU HEAR BOTH SIDES TALK AND YOU HEAR SOME FOLK SAY THIS
06:29:13PM IS GOING TO BE THERE.
06:29:14PM THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO PUT THERE.
06:29:16PM OTHER SIDE SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE THERE.
06:29:19PM PEOPLE GET SCARED.
06:29:20PM YOU KNOW, THEY -- IT IS LIKE ANYTHING.
06:29:23PM A MOTHER WITH THEIR CHILD.
06:29:24PM THEY WANT TO PROTECT THEIR CHILD OF ALL COST, NO MATTER WHO
06:29:28PM THAT PERSON IS.
06:29:29PM THE COMMUNITY WANT TO PROTECT THEIR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
06:29:32PM BUT AS WE KNOW, WE ARE A CITY THAT IS CHANGING.
06:29:36PM I WISH SOME OF THESE CHANGES COULD COME TO THE EAST SIDE OF
06:29:41PM TOWN, HE WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
06:29:43PM I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
06:29:44PM I WISH THESE CHANGES CAN COME TO THE EAST SEED OF TOWN WHERE
06:29:47PM SOME OF THE FOLKS ON THE EAST SIDE ARE STRUGGLING AND
06:29:50PM LOOKING FOR HOPE AND LOOKING FOR HE IS THEM EX AND
06:29:53PM BEAUTIFICATION AND CHANGE THE MIND SET AND THE HOPES AND
06:29:56PM DREAMS OF THEMSELVES.
06:29:57PM BUT, AGAIN, IT'S -- IT IS A DECISION WILL BE MADE.
06:30:03PM AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHATEVER SIDE IS VICTORIOUS, I
06:30:08PM HOPE WE ALL GET ALONG AND WORK TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOOD
06:30:11PM OF THE COMMUNITY AND A COMMON GOOD -- IF THE SYNAGOGUE GOES
06:30:15PM THERE.
06:30:15PM BUT TRY TO WORK TOGETHER ON HOW THIS MAY PLAY OUT.
06:30:19PM THANK YOU, ALL.
06:30:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:30:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN ECHO THE COMMENTS OF MY
06:30:27PM COLLEAGUES.
06:30:28PM I HAVE TREMENDOUS RESPECT FOR BOTH SEEDS FOR MOST PEOPLE IN
06:30:31PM THIS ROOM THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS.
06:30:33PM THESE ARE NOT EASY DECISIONS.
06:30:35PM PEOPLE THAT, AGAIN, THEY LOVE AND WANT TO PROTECT THEIR
06:30:39PM COMMUNITY AND OTHERS THAT WANT TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY
06:30:40PM AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE COMMUNITY.
06:30:42PM WE HAVE HEARD BOTH SIDE.
06:30:44PM MORE THAN ONCE BECAUSE THIS IS A CONTINUED DISCUSSION.
06:30:47PM I WAS HOPING THAT -- WITH CONTINUED DISCUSSION, THINGS WOULD
06:30:52PM WORK OUT BETTER.
06:30:54PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THOSE MEETINGS.
06:30:57PM I HOPE THAT REGARDLESS, THAT FOLKS CONTINUE TO GET ALONG
06:31:03PM REGARDLESS OF THE DECISION AND CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT
06:31:06PM RESPECT, BUT YOU KNOW SOME DECISIONS ARE NOT EASY, THANK
06:31:15PM YOU.
06:31:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:31:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
06:31:17PM YEAH, I AGREE THAT SOME DECISIONS ARE DIFFICULT.
06:31:23PM BUT ONE SIDE IS SAYING THEY WILL REALLY TALK TO THE
06:31:29PM COMMUNITY.
06:31:29PM AND THE OTHER SIDE IS SAYING WE ARE NOT BEING TALKED TO.
06:31:32PM WHEN STUFF LIKE THIS COMES IN FRONT OF US, I EXPECT THE
06:31:40PM COMMUNITY TO BE INVOLVED AND TO -- TO REALLY BE INFORMED AND
06:31:44PM A PART OF THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
06:31:47PM THAT IS NOT WHAT I HEARD HAS HAPPENED HERE.
06:31:50PM I THINK THIS IS TOO JARRING FOR THIS COMMUNITY WHERE IT IS.
06:31:57PM TO TIME JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE
06:32:02PM ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
06:32:07PM PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP AT 808
06:32:12PM NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE AND 2402 WEST STATE STREET FROM
06:32:15PM RESIDENTIAL-20,R-20 TO NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE RNMU-24.
06:32:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
06:32:25PM SEE, THIS IS NOT A STREET ORDINANCE.
06:32:29PM THIS IS A TWO PROCESS.
06:32:31PM YOU HAVE TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN ORDER TO HAVE
06:32:35PM SOMETHING TO FIT THERE OR NOT FIT THERE ACCORDING TO
06:32:38PM WHATEVER AND EACH SIDE IS GOING TO DO.
06:32:40PM AND, THEREFORE, WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A TWO-HEADED ITEM HERE
06:32:46PM THAT IF THERE WAS JUST ONE CHANGE OF ZONING FROM SOMETHING
06:32:51PM THAT WAS "A" TO A "B" WITHIN THAT SAME STRUCTURE OF ZONINGS, IT
06:32:56PM WOULD CERTAINLY BE A LOT EASIER AND NOT SO MUCH COMPLICATED.
06:33:02PM THIS IS WHY I SECONDED THE MOTION BECAUSE IT JUST --
06:33:08PM ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME IN THE VICINITY, I KNOW THAT THE
06:33:10PM CORNER OF ARMENIA AND CYPRESS WAS DONE THAT WAY 60 YEARS
06:33:17PM AGO.
06:33:17PM I KNOW THAT THAT WHOLE AREA IN FACT WHERE THE DENTIST SPOKE,
06:33:25PM THE DOCTOR.
06:33:25PM HE HAS A BEAUTIFUL PLEAS.
06:33:27PM USED TO BE A MARKET AND SOLD TRINKETS.
06:33:30PM IF YOU WANT TO BUY PENS OR WRITING PARAPHERNALIA.
06:33:35PM YOU WANT TO BUY SOMETHING AND CONNECT TIMELINE TO CHINA AND
06:33:39PM BROUGHT IN BY THE THOUSANDS.
06:33:40PM AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
06:33:42PM A FINE RELIGIOUS BUSINESS.
06:33:45PM IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SIDE OF THE STREET ON THE NORTH
06:33:48PM SIDE OF CYPRESS FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, IT WAS ALL
06:33:52PM COMMERCIAL.
06:33:52PM AND IT STILL IS.
06:33:55PM BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IN DUE TIME FROM THAT AREA, THE EMPTY
06:34:00PM STATION, GAS STATION ON CYPRESS AND HOWARD, THAT HAS BEEN
06:34:05PM VACANT FOR 20 YEARS.
06:34:07PM ALL THAT AREA THERE JUST SOUTH -- I MEAN JUST -- JUST --
06:34:14PM YEAH, JUST NORTH OF IT IS SOMETHING THAT -- THAT NEEDS TO IT
06:34:19PM BE LOOKED AT.
06:34:19PM BECAUSE THE CHANGES THAT THEY WERE DON'T FIT ANYMORE WHAT IT
06:34:25PM SHOULD BE NOW.
06:34:25PM IT'S DITCH.
06:34:29PM I READ LAND COST THERE WAS VERY HIGH.
06:34:33PM MAYBE THAT IS NOT WHY IT IS BEING MOVED.
06:34:35PM I UNDERSTAND I THINK WHAT IS HERE.
06:34:38PM AND IT IS NOT THAT THE CHANGE, IT IS THE SIZE OF THE CHANGE
06:34:42PM THAT BOTHERS ME.
06:34:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:34:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, THIS IS AN IMPOSSIBLE DECISION LIKE MY
06:34:55PM COLLEAGUES SAID.
06:34:55PM THERE IS -- THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE ON BOTH SEED.
06:34:59PM I KNOW PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES.
06:35:01PM WE SITTING IN THIS ROLE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE
06:35:07PM USE OF THE PROPERTY OR WHO OWNS IT.
06:35:10PM THERE COULD BE -- IF A -- IF A RESTAURANT -- USING THE
06:35:17PM ANALOGY, IF A RESTAURANT WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE AND PEOPLE
06:35:21PM LOOK THAT RESTAURANT VERSUS ANOTHER RESTAURANT.
06:35:23PM WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION THAT ANYONE CAN PUT A RESTAURANT
06:35:27PM -- ONCE THIS IS CHANGED, ANYBODY CAN PUT ANYTHING THEY WANT
06:35:30PM ON THIS.
06:35:30PM WE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION HOW MUCH WE LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT
06:35:34PM ARE PUTTING IN THE APPLICATION.
06:35:36PM THE SITUATION IS FROM A MANNING POINT OF VIEW, IF YOU LOOK
06:35:42PM AT THE MAP, ONE SIDE OF THE OF THE ROAD IS RED AND THE OTHER
06:35:47PM SIDE ISN'T.
06:35:48PM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO GO THROUGH A
06:35:51PM BIGGER PROCESS TO GO -- TO LOOK AT THIS, TO CHANGE THE
06:35:56PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GO DOWN ALL OF ARMENIA IF THEY WANTED
06:36:00PM TO DO THAT, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVEN'T DONE THAT.
06:36:03PM THERE WILL BE PROCESS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO DO
06:36:06PM THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE A RADICAL CHANGE FOR THE
06:36:10PM NEIGHBORHOOD PUTTING THIS IN.
06:36:13PM MAKING A DECISION THERE IN A WAY SETS A PRECEDENT.
06:36:16PM I AM SURPRISED THAT STAFF WOULD SUPPORT A CHANGE LIKE THAT.
06:36:20PM WE HAVE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR --
06:36:24PM FOR EVERYONE.
06:36:25PM AND IN THE CONTENT OF THIS, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THIS IS A
06:36:29PM PROPER USE.
06:36:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION THAT HAS BEEN MADE BY
06:36:36PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:36:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:36:39PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
06:36:47PM I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
06:36:48PM THERE IS POSSIBILITY OF DOUBLING THE F.A.R.
06:36:53PM AND IN MY OPINION, YOU ARE JUST PUTTING -- JAMMING TOO MUCH
06:37:01PM CONTINUE TO THIS LOT.
06:37:02PM SO THAT WILL BE THE REASON WHY I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING IT.
06:37:09PM MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:37:11PM TO DENY.
06:37:18PM I CANNOT SUPPORT -- I AM GOING TO DENY.
06:37:21PM CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:37:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:37:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:37:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:37:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:37:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:37:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
06:37:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:37:42PM >>CLERK: MOTION TO DENY HAS CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO.
06:37:45PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
06:37:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE --
06:37:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. BENTLEY, SORRY.
06:37:55PM WE STILL HAVE ITEM 2.
06:37:57PM WE HAVE TO ACT ON SOMETHING.
06:37:58PM WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ON THE RECORD, DO WE NOT?
06:38:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WINNER EXITING CHAMBERS, CAN WE DO IT IN A
06:38:13PM QUIET MANNER, PLEASE.
06:38:15PM >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD ON ITEM NUMBER 2, BUT --
06:38:43PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
06:38:45PM DEPARTMENT.
06:38:45PM BECAUSE ITEM NUMBER 2 IS DEPENDENT ON ITEM NUMBER 1 BEING
06:38:50PM FAVORABLY ACTED UPON BY COUNCIL, THERE IS NO NEED TO HEAR
06:38:53PM ITEM NUMBER 2 AT THIS POINT.
06:38:54PM AT THIS POINT, THE PROPOSAL WILL NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
06:39:00PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:39:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ, WILL IT NEED TO BE
06:39:06PM WITHDRAWN.
06:39:07PM >> NOT WITHDRAWN.
06:39:08PM BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACT ON IT.
06:39:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
06:39:13PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:39:15PM SECONDED BY WHOM?
06:39:16PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:39:17PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:39:20PM OPPOSED?
06:39:21PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:39:22PM TAKE CARE.
06:39:22PM WE WILL NOW BE GOING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 -- MR. SHELBY,
06:39:31PM WHEN WE -- WHEN WE CONTINUE THESE CASES I DID NOT KNOW IF
06:39:38PM ANYONE WANTED TO SPEAK TO THOSE CONTINUANCES WHEN WE DID
06:39:43PM THAT.
06:39:43PM SHOULD I ASK NOW --
06:39:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR, THEY HAVE BEEN CONTINUED.
06:39:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-25.
06:39:51PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:40:08PM FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-25 LOCATED 1236 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
06:40:15PM THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT.
06:40:19PM SMALL SCALE IN SIZE.
06:40:21PM 0.ACRES AND WERE FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO MIXED USE 100.
06:40:28PM HERE IS OUR GENERAL LOCATOR SLIDE.
06:40:31PM THE SITE IS LOCATED HEIFER IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
06:40:36PM DISTRICT, CHANNEL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE URBAN VILLAGE AND
06:40:40PM LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
06:40:44PM AERIAL OVERVIEW OF THE SITE OUTLINED IN RED AND IN YELLOW.
06:40:50PM NORTH OF TWIGGS STREET.
06:40:52PM SOUTH OF YBOR CITY IN THE GASWORX DEVELOPMENT.
06:40:56PM YOU GO TO THE EAST, YBOR CHANNEL HERE.
06:40:59PM SOUTH, YOU HAVE KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
06:41:01PM OVERALL CHANNEL DISTRICT IS URBAN WITH A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY
06:41:05PM DEVELOPMENTS.
06:41:05PM YOU MOVE TO THE WEST, TAMPA UNION STATION OVER HERE AND THE
06:41:09PM ENCORE DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH.
06:41:10PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ALONG CHANNELSIDE DRIVE ON THE SUBJECT
06:41:16PM SITE ON THE RIGHT HERE.
06:41:17PM AND THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ALONG CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
06:41:24PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON YOUR LEFT HERE.
06:41:27PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST FROM CHANNELSIDE DRIVE FROM THE SUBJECT
06:41:32PM SITE FROM HERE TO HERE.
06:41:33PM AND THIS IS LOOKING WEST ACROSS CHANNELSIDE DRIVE FROM THE
06:41:39PM SUBJECT SITE.
06:41:39PM SO HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
06:41:46PM YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IS CURRENTLY RECOGNIZED UNDER THE HEAVY
06:41:49PM INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE.
06:41:51PM YOU CAN SEE NOT TOO MUCH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LAND USE LEFT IN
06:41:55PM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AREA.
06:41:56PM SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LAND USE FOR TAMPA UNION STATION, BUT
06:42:00PM THE FUTURE LAND USE IS THE REGIONAL MIXED 100.
06:42:05PM MOVE OVER TO THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER, THE CENTRAL BUSINESS
06:42:09PM DISTRICT IN THAT CORNER AND A LITTLE BIT OF UMU-60 IN THE
06:42:14PM RIGHT-HAND CORNER.
06:42:15PM HERE IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
06:42:18PM THE SITE UNDER THE RECOGNIZED MIXED USE 100.
06:42:21PM THE SITE NORTH OF IT MAY LOOK SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR TO YOU.
06:42:24PM THAT CAME BEFORE Y'ALL IN JUNE 2022 AND AMENDED THE FUTURE
06:42:30PM AND WILL USE FROM INDUSTRIAL TO MIXED USE 100.
06:42:32PM AGAIN THAT WAS THE SITE HERE THE SITE.
06:42:39PM INDUSTRIAL USES ARE NOT PERMITTED, BUT A LITTLE UNDER 44,000
06:42:44PM SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES CAN BE CONSIDERED.
06:42:47PM UNDER THE RMU-100, 60 UNIT OR A ABOVE 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF
06:42:55PM RESIDENTIAL OR NONINDUSTRIAL USES.
06:42:57PM WITHIN THE PERIPHERY, ADDITIONAL INTENSITY AND DENSITY COULD
06:43:02PM BE CONSIDERED ON TOP OF THE MAXIMUM SHOWN HERE.
06:43:05PM WHILE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THIS CONSISTENT WITH
06:43:08PM MULTIPLE ASPECT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MAINLY
06:43:10PM ENCOURAGING COMPACT HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE
06:43:16PM WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND USING LAND RESOURCES MORE
06:43:19PM EFFICIENTLY.
06:43:20PM THEY FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH PROMOTING DENSITY AND MIXES OF USES
06:43:24PM OF TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT THAT SUPPORT WALKING AND
06:43:28PM TRANSPORTATION AND NEW HOUSING ON VACANT OR UNDERUTILIZED
06:43:33PM LAND.
06:43:33PM BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FUNDS
06:43:36PM IT CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, POLICIES OF THE TAMPA
06:43:41PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:43:41PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:43:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
06:43:47PM THANK YOU.
06:43:47PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, ALEX SHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY
06:43:57PM DROVE FOR THE RECORD.
06:43:58PM I SUBMITTED MY POWERPOINT AND IT SHOULD BE PULLED UP ON THE
06:44:03PM SCREEN.
06:44:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT IS UP ON YOUR MONITOR, BUT NOT OURS.
06:44:26PM THANK YOU.
06:44:33PM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-25.
06:44:39PM I THINK THEY HAVE TO GO NEXT SLIDE.
06:44:41PM NEXT SLIDE.
06:44:49PM OR CAN I CHANGE IT FROM HERE?
06:44:56PM CAN I CHANGE THE SLIDE FROM HERE?
06:44:59PM OR DO YOU ALL HAVE TO DO IT?
06:45:01PM OKAY.
06:45:01PM THANK YOU.
06:45:08PM SAM DID A GOOD JOB OF SETTING 9 LOCATION AND I WILL TRY TO
06:45:12PM BE BRIEF.
06:45:12PM THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AND TWIGGS STREET.
06:45:16PM THE PROPOSED REQUEST THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT IS WHAT IS
06:45:20PM ADOPTED.
06:45:21PM WE ARE PROPOSING RMU-100.
06:45:24PM I WILL NOTE ADJACENT TO OTHER RMU-1 AS SAM ALLUDED TO.
06:45:29PM A LOT OF RMU-100 IN THE DISTRICT THAT EXISTS TODAY.
06:45:33PM ON THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, A PENDING
06:45:38PM AMENDMENT THAT HAD BEEN HEARD ON THE CYCLE AFTER THIS CYCLE.
06:45:41PM THAT IS CURRENTLY FILED AS WELL.
06:45:43PM SAM WENT THROUGH THE DIFFERENCE IN THE DENSITY SO I WILL
06:45:46PM SKIP OVER THIS ONE.
06:45:47PM AS YOU CAN SEE, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY GREAT
06:45:51PM AERIAL ZOOMED-OUT VIEW OF THE ENTIRE DISTRICT AND LAND USE
06:45:56PM DESIGNATIONS WITHIN IT.
06:45:57PM THIS IS UP WITH OF THE LAST REMAINING INDUSTRIAL PARCELS
06:46:00PM LOCATED BEST OF THE CHANNEL.
06:46:01PM THE ENTIRE DISTRICT IS RMU-100 AND YOU CAN SEE THE DISTRICT
06:46:08PM IS THERE AS WELL.
06:46:08PM WITH IT BEING UP WITH OF THE LAST REMAINING INDUSTRIAL
06:46:11PM PARCELS, I WILL NOTE THAT INDUSTRIAL IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT
06:46:14PM IS INHERENTLY INCOMPATIBLE.
06:46:17PM WITH THE DENSITY YOU WILL NOT PUT A MANUFACTURING FACILITY
06:46:20PM IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
06:46:22PM IT IS NO LONGER COMPATIBLE.
06:46:23PM THIS IS MORE OF A GRANULAR REPRESENTATION OF THE PRIOR SLIDE
06:46:27PM THAT IS SHOWING SOME PRECEDENT APPROVALS FOR CPAs IN THE
06:46:31PM AREA.
06:46:31PM THE YELLOW ARROWS ARE POINTING TO THE LAND IN THE SUBJECT
06:46:36PM SITE CHANGED FROM AN INDUSTRIAL LAND USE CATEGORY NOT ONLY
06:46:40PM MIXED USE -- MIXED-USE CATEGORY BUT SPECIFICALLY RMU-100.
06:46:45PM THAT LEVEL OF DENSITY WE ARE REQUESTING TONIGHT HAS BEEN
06:46:47PM APPROVED ON ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SEATS IN THE SURROUNDING
06:46:51PM VICINITY OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:46:53PM THAT WAS MENTIONED BY SAM AS WELL, AND I WANT TO NOTE AGAIN,
06:46:57PM DIRECTLY NORTH REZ 285.
06:47:02PM AND HAD THE SAME REQUEST, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO RMU-100, A,
06:47:08PM AND THIS WAS APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL IN THE SUMMER OF LAST
06:47:11PM YEAR, RELATIVELY RECENTLY.
06:47:13PM ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS IS THE VIABILITY OF AVAILABLE
06:47:17PM TRANSIT.
06:47:18PM WE THINK THAT THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IS A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD
06:47:20PM FOR INFILL REDEVELOPMENT.
06:47:22PM AND ESPECIALLY HIGH DENSITY REDEVELOPMENT GIVEN NOT ONLY
06:47:26PM PROXIMITY TO THE DOWNTOWN FOR BUT THE ABILITY TO GET THERE
06:47:30PM WITHOUT USING A CAR.
06:47:30PM THE TECO STREET CAR LINE.
06:47:33PM HART ROUTES ALONG CHANNELSIDE.
06:47:36PM SELMON JUST NORTH.
06:47:38PM THE ADAMO DRIVE CORRIDOR.
06:47:41PM TAMPA UNION STATION TO THE DISTRICT.
06:47:44PM COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
06:47:47PM SOMETHING YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH AND I THINK THE POINTS
06:47:50PM THAT WEAPON MAKE PRO DEVELOPMENT IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
06:47:53PM AREA ARE ALSO 23578 WITH YOU AND I WANT TO REITERATE TWO OF
06:47:58PM THOSE POINTS.
06:47:59PM YOU CAN'T CAVEAT A LAND USE CHANGE.
06:48:02PM SOMETHING TO DO IN A REZONING.
06:48:04PM ADD SECURITY AND BACKSTOPS AND INTO PROOFING STANDARDS AND
06:48:08PM ALL OF THAT STUFF CAN BE ADDED TO A PD.
06:48:11PM CAN'T BE ADDED TO A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
06:48:14PM NOT NECESSARILY THE PROCESS OF GET NAG GRANULAR.
06:48:17PM THE SECOND POINT, WE FEEL THAT THE COASTAL MANAGE 789 OF THE
06:48:21PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IMPORTANT AND HAS CERTAIN POLICIES AND
06:48:23PM OBJECTIVES, IT IS ONE SMALL SECTION IN A VERY, VERY LARGE
06:48:28PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE FEEL THAT THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT
06:48:30PM SUPPORTING OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES AND I WILL RUN THROUGH
06:48:33PM THOSE RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
06:48:34PM FIRST ONE BEING THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT
06:48:37PM URBAN VILLAGE.
06:48:38PM YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE POLICY OF DIRECTING THE GREATER
06:48:41PM SHARE OF GROWTH TO THE URBAN VILLAGES.
06:48:43PM COUPLE DIFFERENT POLICIES REFERENCING HIGHER DEVELOPMENT.
06:48:47PM TONS OF HIGH DENSITY.
06:48:50PM AND ENCOURAGING INFILL DEVELOPMENT ON UNDERUTILIZED SITE.
06:48:55PM UTILIZATION OF THIS SPECIFIC SITE.
06:48:58PM MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL POLICIES AS WELL WHICH AGAIN
06:49:08PM THE RMU-100 OF THE RESIDENTIAL ON TO THE SITE.
06:49:11PM AREAS THAT ARE OCCUPIED BY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT
06:49:15PM ALLOWING OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA TO PROMOTE MULTI AS
06:49:19PM WELL.
06:49:19PM AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE IS A MIXED USE CORRIDOR AND A HOST OF
06:49:23PM OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES SUPPORTING DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE
06:49:26PM MIXED USE CORRIDORS ESPECIALLY THE CONVERSION OF
06:49:29PM NONRESIDENTIAL AS THE SITE SITS TODAY.
06:49:31PM AND OBVIOUSLY THE HOUSING STOCK.
06:49:33PM 150 PEOPLE MOVING TO TAMPA EVERY SINGLE DAY.
06:49:36PM CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY THAT DON'T WANT THOSE PEOPLE IN
06:49:42PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:49:42PM WITH THAT ENCOURAGING HOUSING ON INFILL OFFER UNUTILIZED
06:49:46PM LAND IS TYPICALLY WELL RECEIVED IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
06:49:49PM WHILE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES ARE
06:49:52PM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS KEEP REQUEST, SO IS THE CHANNEL
06:49:56PM DISTRICT CRA PLAN.
06:49:58PM THING IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
06:50:01PM A SNAPSHOT FROM THE PLAN, A DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE SPECIFIC
06:50:05PM PLAN AND I THINK A REALLY, REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE
06:50:10PM DISTRICT WAS AND WHERE IT STAND TODAY.
06:50:12PM TRANSITIONING FROM AN INDUSTRIAL AREA TO URBAN MIXED USE
06:50:16PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOTES LIMITED INDUSTRIAL USES IN LARGE AND
06:50:19PM GROWING RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT THAT WE ALL KNOW IS VERY TRUE
06:50:21PM OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
06:50:23PM TWO SUB EXCEPTIONS IN SECTION 66 THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA
06:50:29PM PLAN.
06:50:29PM RECOGNIZE THE SPECIFIC SITE WITH THE BLUE STAR.
06:50:32PM RECOGNIZED AS A PARCEL OF LAND THAT IS UNDERUTILIZED BY THE
06:50:38PM CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA.
06:50:39PM WE ARE HOPING TO CHANGE THAT WITH THE AND WILL USE
06:50:42PM AMENDMENT.
06:50:42PM THE SECOND IS A TABULATED SUMMARY OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP
06:50:46PM OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER.
06:50:49PM PUBLISHED IN JANUARY 2022.
06:50:52PM SOME OF THIS HAS CHANGED.
06:50:53PM AS IT SAT, ACRES OF ARMY 100 IN AND HAS REDUCED DO UNTO THE
06:51:00PM 14 ACRES.
06:51:01PM IF PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IN REQUEST CONSISTENT BACK EARLIER
06:51:08PM THIS MARCH.
06:51:09PM WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT
06:51:12PM HAVE.
06:51:12PM THANKS.
06:51:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
06:51:19PM DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION?
06:51:22PM >> IT DOES, THANK YOU.
06:51:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
06:51:26PM AGENDA NUMBER 4, FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-25.
06:51:28PM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
06:51:34PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:51:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:51:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
06:51:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:51:41PM SECONDED BE COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:51:42PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:51:44PM ANY OPPOSITION?
06:51:45PM MOTION PASSES.
06:51:46PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:51:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR,
06:51:51PM FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-25.
06:51:52PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
06:51:56PM ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
06:52:00PM PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
06:52:03PM PROPERTY 1236 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL HI TO
06:52:10PM RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE-100 RMU-100 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
06:52:17PM ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERAL PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
06:52:23PM DATE.
06:52:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED BY
06:52:26PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:52:27PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:52:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:52:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
06:52:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
06:52:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:52:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
06:52:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
06:52:39PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
06:52:43PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 20, 2023
06:52:49PM AT 9:30 A.M.
06:52:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.
06:52:59PM EXCUSE ME, ANYONE GIVING TESTIMONY IN ANY FUTURE -- FURTHER
06:53:04PM AGENDA ITEMS, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
06:53:07PM ANYONE GIVING ANY TYPE OF TESTIMONY.
06:53:13PM >>CLERK: PLEASE RAZE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
06:53:16PM DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO
06:53:19PM GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
06:53:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HOPE THE TWO PEOPLE THAT WHY U.S. WALKED
06:53:25PM IN WERE GOING TO BE SWORN IN.
06:53:27PM AND THE TWO FOLLOWING THEM.
06:53:31PM >>CLERK: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
06:53:35PM DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO
06:53:38PM GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
06:53:41PM THANK YOU.
06:53:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DOCK, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
06:53:46PM FILE NO. AB2-22-09.
06:53:47PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CITRO AND COUNCIL,
06:53:51PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:53:54PM COUNCIL, THIS NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
06:53:57PM SALES FOR THE PROJECT AREA KNOWN AS THE HEATS.
06:54:01PM THE APPLICANT IS RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS HOLDING LCC TO
06:54:07PM REPRESENTED BY CATHERINE COYLE.
06:54:08PM THIS REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES FOR A LARGE VENUE
06:54:13PM CATEGORY WITH BEER, WEAN AND LIQUOR FOR CONSUMPTION ON
06:54:17PM PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF-PREMISE.
06:54:21PM I THINK IT IS EASIER -- LET ME SHOW YOU THE
06:54:25PM AERIAL TO SHOW YOU THE BOUNDARY.
06:54:26PM THE BOUNDARY IS IDENTIFIED IN THE RED.
06:54:28PM AND JUST ON THIS MAP TO PROVIDE ORIENTATION, THIS IS N.
06:54:35PM BOULEVARD THAT IS HERE ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.
06:54:38PM THIS IS FLORIDA AVENUE.
06:54:39PM THIS IS TAMPA STREET.
06:54:43PM AND THIS IS PALM AVENUE THAT IS LOCATED THERE.
06:54:46PM THIS IS TO THE VERY NORTHERN BOUNDARY.
06:54:50PM SO THIS PROPERTY -- THIS PROJECT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED FOR
06:54:54PM A PD-A.
06:54:56PM AND THAT APPROVAL WAS GIVEN IN 2021.
06:55:00PM THAT ALLOWS A MIXTURE OF USES ON THE SITE.
06:55:04PM THIS REQUEST IS FOR, LIKE I MENTIONED, THAT LARGE VENUE
06:55:07PM CLASSIFICATION TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY IDENTIFIED
06:55:10PM IN THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED AND ON THE MAP CURRENTLY ON THE
06:55:14PM PROJECT AREA.
06:55:15PM THERE IS AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES PERMIT WHICH IS ACTIVE
06:55:19PM ON THE SITE.
06:55:19PM IT IS ALSO FOR A LARGE VENUE CATEGORY, BEER, WINE AND
06:55:24PM LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND FOR PACKAGE SALES
06:55:28PM CONSUMPTION OFF-PREMISE ALSO.
06:55:30PM THIS GO BEFORE YOU ADDS AN ADDITIONAL 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF
06:55:35PM ALCOHOL SALE FOR RESTAURANTS USES AND ADDITIONAL 3,000
06:55:39PM SQUARE FEET FOR OTHER USES, WHICH WILL BE -- WHICH IS
06:55:42PM IDENTIFIED IN THE CHART THAT I WILL PLACE ON THE ELMO FOR
06:55:45PM YOU NOW.
06:55:46PM AND ALSO, THIS MODIFIES THE HOTEL SQUARE FOOT AND BY
06:55:54PM REDUCING THE HOTEL SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
06:55:59PM AND THIS -- THIS WOULD INCREASE OUR OTHER SALES AREAS.
06:56:05PM SOME WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS TO PUT THIS UP ON THE ELMO
06:56:09PM WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT.
06:56:10PM ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
06:56:11PM WITHIN THE SITE PLAN, THEY ESTABLISHED AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
06:56:15PM SALES SCHEDULE.
06:56:16PM SO WITHIN THAT OVERALL PROJECT BOUNDARY AS THE LOCATION
06:56:20PM COMES IN.
06:56:20PM SAY A LOCATION FOR A RESTAURANT COMES IN AND THEY COME FOR A
06:56:24PM SIGN-OFF FROM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION FROM THE ZONING
06:56:26PM OFFICE.
06:56:27PM THE DEVELOPER HAS TO GIVE AN OVERALL ENTITLED CHART SIMILAR
06:56:33PM TO THIS.
06:56:33PM SHOW THE CATEGORY BEING REQUESTED, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND
06:56:36PM THE DRAW DOWN AND WHAT IS REMAINING IN THAT CATEGORY.
06:56:39PM AND SO THAT IS WHAT IS ON THE SITE CURRENTLY.
06:56:42PM AND THAT THAT WILL REMAKE THOSE CONDITIONS.
06:56:45PM SO THIS SITE PLAN ALSO COMES WITH THE OVERALL ENTITLEMENT
06:56:55PM AND ANYTHING WITHIN THIS PROJECT AREA MUST REPORT THE WAY
06:56:58PM THE RESTAURANT WILL REPORT ANNUALLY IF THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF
06:57:02PM THIS BOUNDARY.
06:57:02PM AND ALSO THE SITE PLAN DOES INDICATE NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED
06:57:09PM SOUND PERMITTED AFTER MIDNIGHT FOR BAR LOUNGE USE AND 2 A.M.
06:57:13PM FOR PLACE OF ASSEMBLY.
06:57:15PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU -- LET'S GO BACK ON THE AERIAL
06:57:19PM JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE SURROUND WILLING SO THIS IS THE SITE
06:57:26PM AGAIN HERE IN RED AND N. BOULEVARD.
06:57:28PM YOU CAN SEE THE PD-A LAND USE.
06:57:32PM PRESIDENT PD-A ZONING.
06:57:35PM AND TO THE NOTE A MIXTURE OF THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
06:57:39PM ALONG WITH SOME CG USES AS WE GET TO THE EAST ALONG HIGHLAND
06:57:44PM AND ALONG TAMPA AND FLORIDA.
06:57:45PM AND I HAVE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
06:57:49PM SO THIS IS THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE.
06:57:54PM JUST AT THE RIVER LOOKING SOUTH.
06:57:58PM THIS HAD THIS IS ALSO LOOKING SOUTH OF YOUR CENTRAL.
06:58:02PM THIS IS A VIEW CENTRAL OF THE SITE.
06:58:05PM THIS IS REALLY AT THE TOP OF THE BRIDGE ON BOULEVARD LOOKING
06:58:08PM NORTH.
06:58:08PM NORTH CENTRAL TO THE SITE AND THEN THE EASTERN BOUNDARY IS
06:58:12PM TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PICTURE.
06:58:14PM THAT IS FURTHER EAST ON THE SITE.
06:58:20PM ARMATURE WORKS THERE.
06:58:29PM THIS IS HEADED EAST TOWARD TAMPA AND THIS IS THE EASTERN
06:58:31PM BOUNDARY OF THE SITE.
06:58:32PM ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED
06:58:37PM WITH THIS REQUEST JUST SO COUNCIL CAN SEE.
06:58:42PM IT WAS, OF COURSE, PROVIDED TO COUNCIL BUT FOR THE PUBLIC'S
06:58:47PM BENEFIT.
06:58:47PM THIS WAS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED AND IDENTIFIES THE BOUNDARY.
06:58:52PM THE SALES AREA BOUNDARY IS IDENTIFIED IN THE BLACK OUTLINE.
06:58:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DOCK, CAN YOU LEAVE THAT THERE -- WITH
06:59:05PM THAT, I WILL BE ASKING THE PETITIONER SOME QUESTIONS.
06:59:08PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ABSOLUTELY, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
06:59:12PM THE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND WE FIND THE REQUEST
06:59:17PM CONSISTENT.
06:59:17PM NO SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST
06:59:21PM AND SECOND READING.
06:59:22PM NO WAIVERS REQUESTED WITH THIS REQUEST.
06:59:26PM SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES STATUTE'S PRESENTATION AND I AM
06:59:31PM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
06:59:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK.
06:59:34PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU.
06:59:35PM AND I WILL LEAVE THAT.
06:59:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PETITIONER.
06:59:39PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:59:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MADAM CLERK.
06:59:53PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:00:11PM CATHERINE COYLE, URBAN PLANNING.
07:00:14PM NORTH SWAUNNEE AVENUE REPRESENTING RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS.
07:00:18PM I WILL GO THROUGH A BRIEF HISTORY.
07:00:27PM THIS IS THE VIRTUAL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT MISS DOCK
07:00:33PM PRESENTED AS FAR AS THE CURRENT 'APPROVAL.
07:00:35PM THIS IS THE CERTIFIED SITE PLAN THAT IS ACTUALLY ON THE
07:00:39PM PROPERTY TODAY.
07:00:40PM THAT IS FROM 2013.
07:00:43PM THE ORIGINAL WAS IN 2009 AND THIS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE
07:00:48PM A WHILE.
07:00:48PM 2013 A SLIGHT TWEAK WHEN THE NEW OWNER CAME IN TO MATCH IT
07:00:53PM WITH THE ZONING AT THE TIME.
07:00:54PM THE RED BOUNDARY.
07:00:55PM THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT SITS ON THE PROPERTY TODAY.
07:00:58PM THE RED BOUNDARY IS THE ALCOHOL SALES BOUNDARY.
07:01:01PM YOU CAN SEE THE STREET GRID IS NOT ACTUALLY WHAT IS OUT
07:01:05PM THERE TODAY.
07:01:05PM THIS WAS THE CONSENSUAL STREET GRID FROM THE ORIGINAL
07:01:09PM REZONING IN 2006 AND CARRIED THROUGH BECAUSE IT WASN'T DONE
07:01:14PM AT THAT TIME.
07:01:15PM THIS BLUE BOUNDARY THAT IS SHOWN IS THE OUTDOOR SALES AREA.
07:01:19PM AS IT WAS THOUGHT AT THE TIME, THIS IS THE OLD -- WELL, THE
07:01:22PM ARMATURE WORKS BUILDING AT THE TIME.
07:01:25PM THE OLD ARMATURE WORKS BUILDING.
07:01:27PM AND THIS IS THE WATER WORKS BUILDING WHICH IS -- WELL, THE
07:01:34PM OLD BACK BUILDING, 220 AND WATER WORKS PARK.
07:01:38PM NOW ON THIS APPROVAL AS MISS DOCK MENTIONED, AND CITY
07:01:43PM PROVIDE A COPY TO YOU.
07:01:45PM THERE ARE CONDITIONS SHE WENT THROUGH THAT DESCRIBED HOW
07:01:49PM THEY -- THERE IS A SUB PERMIT PROCESS.
07:01:52PM A BLANKET ALCOHOL WITH A VERY SPECIFIC USE TABLE THAT THE
07:01:57PM DEVELOPER DRAWS DOWN FROM WITH EACH USE AS A BLOCK GETS
07:02:01PM BELT, UNITS COME IN.
07:02:04PM A SMALL RESTAURANT.
07:02:06PM ICE CREAM SHOP.
07:02:07PM WHOEVER WANT ALCOHOL COMES IN AND SIGN OFF THROUGH LAND
07:02:13PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:02:13PM ANNUALLY ALONG WITH EACH DRAW DOWN, THE DEVELOPER TURNS IN A
07:02:16PM MASTER COPY OF HOW EVERYTHING TABULATES AND ANNUALLY THEY
07:02:20PM PROVIDE AN UPDATED COPY AS WELL.
07:02:22PM TO DATE, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, NO VIOLATIONS OF THE ANNUAL
07:02:30PM REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY OF THE RESTAURANTS.
07:02:31PM OAR ANY SPECIFIC ALCOHOL CONDITIONS IN THE APPROVAL.
07:02:37PM NOW UNDER THIS CURRENT APPROVAL AS IT SITS, 116,000, YOU WILL
07:02:44PM NOTICE ON THE FRONT OF THE STAFF REPORT 116,000 SQUARE FEET.
07:02:47PM WHAT WE ARE RUNNING UP AGAINST TO THE PROPOSED PLAN -- THIS
07:02:57PM IS ACTUALLY WHAT IS ON FILE FOR WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
07:03:01PM THE BLACK BOUNDARY IS THE ALCOHOL BOUNDARY.
07:03:03PM WHAT I MARKED ON THE ONES IN FRONT OF YOU, TOO, IN YELLOW.
07:03:09PM THREE AREAS, THE ADDITIONAL AND WILL AREA.
07:03:11PM THE THREE PIECES THAT ARE PHYSICALLY ADDITIONS TO THE
07:03:15PM BOUNDARY THAT IS ON -- IN READ ON THE PURPLE PLAN.
07:03:19PM I NOTED IN THE TABLE WHAT THEY ARE.
07:03:21PM THERE IS A LITTLE KIOSK TYPE BUILDING THERE THAT SELLS SOME
07:03:29PM KIND OF SUNDRY OR ICE CREAM.
07:03:31PM THAT IS THE BUMP OUT THERE.
07:03:34PM YOU WILL NOTE IF YOU RECALL THE ZONING GOES ALL THE WAY UP
07:03:37PM TO PALM, BUT NO ALCOHOL TO CONFRONT PALM AND NO COMMERCIAL
07:03:41PM USES THAT CONFRONTS PALM.
07:03:44PM THAT IS WHY IT SPLITS THE BLOCK.
07:03:46PM HERE ON TAMPA STREET, THE ZONING WAS BUMPED OUT TO
07:03:49PM ACCOMMODATE THE HOTEL.
07:03:50PM THIS WAS THE HOTEL USE THAT WAS BUMPED UP FOR THE ROOM COUNT
07:03:54PM IN THE PROPOSED TABLE.
07:03:55PM AND THIS AREA 3 IS THE AREA ADJACENT TO THE OUTDOOR AREA.
07:04:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:04:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU HAVE PALM AND ROSS CONFUSED.
07:04:18PM I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK --
07:04:21PM >> I MEANT THEY CAN FRONT PALM AND NOT ROSS.
07:04:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO STAY A LOT OF BARS ALONG PALM,
07:04:26PM OR RESTAURANTS.
07:04:27PM >> I APOLOGIZE.
07:04:28PM THANK YOU FOR WATCHING THAT.
07:04:30PM SO WHAT I DID HERE WAS -- IF I CAN ZOOM IN SO YOU CAN SEE A
07:04:33PM LITTLE BIT BETTER.
07:04:36PM THE PUBLIC -- THE BLUE BOUNDARY IS WHAT IS SHOWN.
07:04:41PM THE OUTDOOR SALES WHAT IS IN RED WITH THE HASH MARK IS WHAT
07:04:46PM IS PROPOSED.
07:04:47PM AS YOU CAN SEE THE GRID HAS CHANGED.
07:04:50PM PLATTED AND BUILT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
07:04:53PM YOU CAN SEE HOW IT IS ANGLED STREETS.
07:04:56PM THIS ANGEL MET THE PROPOSED CONCEPTUAL STREETS.
07:05:02PM NOW THAT THE ROADS HAVE BEEN PLATTED AND BUILT, THIS OUTDOOR
07:05:06PM SALES AREA CROSSES OVER BLOCK 9 WHICH DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE
07:05:09PM AND TRUEING IT UP TO THE ACTUAL GRID AS PLATTED.
07:05:12PM ON THE SECOND SHEET OF THE PLAN ESSENTIALLY SAME FORMAT.
07:05:23PM YOU HAVE REMOTES IN THE TABLE.
07:05:24PM THE NOTES IN PARTICULAR, WE DID MAKE TWO CHANGES THAT WERE
07:05:30PM REQUIRED IN THE PREVIOUS STAFF REPORT.
07:05:32PM NOTE 8 NEEDED TO BE REMOVED FOR THE PROPOSED NOISE
07:05:36PM CONDITIONS.
07:05:36PM FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
07:05:39PM WE REMOVED THOSE.
07:05:40PM THEN THERE WAS -- THERE WAS A BAD REFERENCE, UNFORTUNATELY,
07:05:45PM JUST A MISREFERENCE.
07:05:47PM THE ENGINEER HAD WRITTEN THIS AB 2 -- REALLY V 13 BECAUSE
07:05:55PM USED TO BE V CASES.
07:05:57PM THAT WAS THE CORRECTION OF THAT.
07:05:58PM THAT IS WHAT I NOTED HERE IN THE BLUE BOX JUST FOR YOUR EASE
07:06:02PM TO SEE WHAT WAS DONE AND WE RENUMBERED 8 TO 9 TO CHEAP IT UP
07:06:08PM SO THERE WOULD BE A STRIKE THROUGH.
07:06:09PM AS FAR AS THE REQUEST GOES, YOU CAN SEE FROM MISS DOCK'S
07:06:13PM PICTURES, IF YOU RECALL, ESPECIALLY THE ONE SHOT LOOKING
07:06:16PM NORTH.
07:06:17PM A LOT OF EMPTY LAND OUT THERE.
07:06:18PM STILL A LOT OF AREA TO BE BUILT.
07:06:21PM THE TABLE WITH 119,000 SQUARE FEET THE MAJORITY HAS BEEN
07:06:25PM EATEN UP, OVER 56,000 OF THAT IS ARMATURE WORKS WITH SPOUTS
07:06:30PM COMING IN AND ALL OF THE OTHER -- SPROUTS COMING IN AND ALL
07:06:38PM THE USES FROM PALM, NOT ROSS, HAVE EATEN UP A LOT OF THAT
07:06:42PM ALCOHOL ENTITLEMENT.
07:06:43PM GIVEN LARGE SWATHS OF LAND LEFT.
07:06:46PM AND BETTER TO PLAN FOR THIS AS NEW TENANTS COME IN AND
07:06:51PM CONTROL IT UNDER ONE UMBRELLA CONTROL BECAUSE IT IS ONE
07:06:57PM DEVELOPER, MADE SENSE TO ASK FOR THIS INCREMENTAL CHANGE TO
07:07:00PM 226 WHICH WILL COVER THE HOTEL.
07:07:02PM SPROUTS CAN BE PULLED OUT AND HAVE ITS OWN APPROVAL AS
07:07:06PM OPPOSED TO DRAWING DOWN FROM RESTAURANT USES AND OTHER
07:07:09PM SUNDRY USES IN THE TABLE AND BETTER ALLOCATE FOR THE ACTUAL
07:07:13PM USES THAT ARE PLANNED TO COME IN.
07:07:14PM WE HAVE NO OBJECTIONS FROM STAFF AS MISS DOCK MENTIONED.
07:07:18PM WE ARE REQUESTING NO WAIVERS.
07:07:21PM AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU'RE APPROVAL.
07:07:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS COYLE?
07:07:37PM >> THEN I WILL SIT DOWN.
07:07:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS COYLE, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS -- I HAVE
07:07:41PM JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
07:07:42PM >> OKAY.
07:07:42PM PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.
07:07:44PM HE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS -- DOUBLING THE SIZE TO 226,000
07:07:58PM SQUARE FOOT.
07:08:03PM THE PLAN IS TO PREPARE SO WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO COME IN AN
07:08:07PM PURCHASE THESE PROPERTIES OR RENT THESE PROPERTIES, IT IS
07:08:10PM ALREADY GOING TO BE THERE.
07:08:12PM IN THE MEANTIME, SOMEBODY WANTS TO PULL UP A PICKUP TRUCK
07:08:20PM AND SELL BEER OUT OF A COOLER, THAT CAN BE OKAY.
07:08:24PM >> NO.
07:08:25PM ALCOHOL SALES IS NOT --
07:08:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HALF THESE QUESTIONS WILL BE RHETORICAL.
07:08:30PM >> NOT PERMITTED WITHIN PARKING ALERTED AREAS AND THOSE ARE
07:08:35PM DESIGNATED PARKING AREAS UNTIL THEY BUILT.
07:08:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH JUST AN OPEN
07:08:41PM CONTAINER.
07:08:41PM WHERE IS THE LIABILITY GOING TO GO?
07:08:43PM WHO IS THIS UMBRELLA UNDER?
07:08:46PM >> RIVER.
07:08:46PM SIDE HEIGHTS, ADAM HARDEN AND CHAZ BROCK.
07:08:51PM THEY ARE THE SOLE OWNERS.
07:09:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I KNOW THIS IS A FUTURE USE, TELL WHERE THE
07:09:03PM PACKAGE STORE WILL BE?
07:09:05PM >> I CANNOT TELL YOU WHERE IT IS GOING TO BE, I CAN NOT, NO.
07:09:09PM IF I CAN GIVE YOU A COMPARISON, THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 50
07:09:17PM ACRES OF LAND ON THE SIDE OF N. BOULEVARD.
07:09:20PM THE ALCOHOL ITSELF IS UNDER 40 ACRES OF LAND WITH 226,000
07:09:24PM PROPOSED SQUARE FEET.
07:09:25PM 119 ALREADY APPROVED.
07:09:28PM AS A COMPARISON, MIDTOWN, 19 ACRES AND 1.4 --
07:09:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS ONE THAT I THOUGHT WAS RIDICULOUS.
07:09:36PM AND THEN THE HARBOR ONE THAT I THOUGHT WAS RIDICULOUS ALSO.
07:09:41PM >> I WILL SAY THIS ONE IS MORE SCALED BACK THAN THE OTHER
07:09:44PM ONES OF THE UMBRELLAS.
07:09:45PM AND IT IS VERY TIGHTLY CONTROL.
07:09:48PM AND.
07:09:51PM NO ALCOHOL INCIDENTS WITH ANY REPORTING REQUIREMENT OR
07:09:55PM ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE COULD EVEN IF.
07:09:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS COYLE?
07:10:01PM THANK YOU, MISS COYLE.
07:10:03PM THEN IN THE -- IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
07:10:06PM ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE NO. AB2-22-09?
07:10:11PM YES, SIR.
07:10:11PM >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS MATT MAY.
07:10:14PM RESIDE 206 WEST ROSS AVENUE.
07:10:16PM AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
07:10:19PM ITCH STOOD BEFORE YOU HERE PROBABLY ALMOST TEN YEARS AGO
07:10:25PM ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE CRA IN TAMPA HEIGHTS FOR
07:10:29PM THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH THESE DEVELOPERS.
07:10:31PM I STOOD BEFORE YOU HERE ASKING FOR THE LOT -- FOR THE FIRST
07:10:34PM ALCOHOL 'APPROVAL FOR THESE DEVELOPERS.
07:10:37PM I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK FOR YOU TO NOT APPROVE THIS
07:10:41PM MONUMENTAL REQUEST FOR A CRAZY AMOUNT OF ALCOHOL SQUARE
07:10:47PM FOOTAGE.
07:10:47PM BASICALLY BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T EARNED IT.
07:10:50PM THEY ENTERED INTO A DEVELOPMENT 'AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
07:10:53PM I FEEL THIS ALCOHOL REQUEST SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ALONG WITH
07:10:56PM THEIR COMMITMENTS MADE IN THE CRA.
07:10:59PM WHAT THEY PLEDGED TO DO.
07:11:03PM TO CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD IN OUR CITY.
07:11:05PM TO RESPECT THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD THAT EXISTED THERE
07:11:08PM BEFORE.
07:11:08PM I HAVE BEEN THERE 15 YEARS.
07:11:11PM MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR GENERATIONS ON THE SAME
07:11:15PM PROPERTY THAT FACES THIS DEVELOPMENT.
07:11:17PM AND UNFORTUNATELY.
07:11:20PM WE ARE NINE YEARS IN TO A TEN-YEAR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
07:11:25PM THE PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETE.
07:11:27PM BY MY CLAUSE, 30% COMPLETE.
07:11:30PM VACANT LAND EVERYWHERE.
07:11:31PM ONE DAY IT IS A PARKING LOT.
07:11:33PM ONE DAY APPARENTLY ALCOHOL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
07:11:37PM HOW THAT WORKS.
07:11:39PM ACRES AND ACRES OF TEMPORARY PARKING, RIGHT.
07:11:42PM ONE PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE FULLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TIS
07:11:46PM CONNECTED TO THE MAIN.
07:11:48PM NO SIGNAGE, NO DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE, NO PERMANENT DIRECTION
07:11:52PM AM SIGNAGE AND WORST OF ALL, THE DEVELOPERS ARE COMPLETELY
07:11:56PM DISENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY UNTIL IT COMES TO ALCOHOL
07:11:59PM REZONING TIME OR CRA MODIFICATION TIME.
07:12:02PM AND I FIND THAT TO BE TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
07:12:05PM THOSE OF US WHO STOOD HERE BEFORE YOU IN THE CITY, CITY
07:12:09PM STAFF, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE MAYOR AT THE TIME.
07:12:12PM TRUST US.
07:12:13PM YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE PROBLEMS LIKE THEY HAD ON SOUTH TAMPA
07:12:17PM IN SOUTH HOW BARRED.
07:12:18PM THE DEVELOPER SAID THE SAME THING.
07:12:20PM NINE YEARS LATER, WE DON'T HAVE A RESIDENTIAL PARKING AREA
07:12:24PM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DESPITE THE DESPERATE EFFORTS TO WORK
07:12:27PM WITH THE CITY.
07:12:27PM WE SEE THE DEVELOPERS CLOSE STREET AD HOC WITH THE BICYCLE
07:12:35PM RACK.
07:12:35PM NO SIGNAGE.
07:12:36PM CALLED THE CITY STAFF.
07:12:37PM THOSE GUYS DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
07:12:39PM I FIND THAT COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE WHEN THEY HAVE 100,000
07:12:43PM SQUARE FEET OF ALCOHOL ZONING.
07:12:44PM PLEASE DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY MORE ENTITLEMENTS THAT THEY MET
07:12:49PM THE OBLIGATIONS THAT THEY MADE TO YOU, TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:12:52PM I LOVE A DRINK AS MUCH AS THE NEXT GUY.
07:12:55PM I LIKE A COD CUBA LIBRE.
07:12:59PM BUT I WOULD LIKE MY 12-YEAR-OLD SON TO MAKE IT TO 13.
07:13:03PM NO ALCOHOL INFRACTIONS.
07:13:05PM MAYBE NOT FORMAL ONCE, CHECK WITH TRANSPORTATION OF HOW MANY
07:13:08PM TIMES TO REPLACE THE SIGNS IN THE ROUNDABOUT ON PALM AND
07:13:12PM HIGHLAND BECAUSE THEY DRIVE STRAIGHT THROUGH THEM WITH
07:13:16PM INADEQUATE LIGHTING AND SIGNAGE.
07:13:19PM I FIND COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AND I HOPE YOU DO AS WELL.
07:13:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:13:24PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:13:28PM RICKY PETERIKA, DARK MOSS.
07:13:33PM A RESIDENT OF TAMPA HEIGHTS.
07:13:34PM AND I ENJOY OFTEN TWO OR THREE TIME A WEEK THE SITE THAT IS
07:13:43PM THE SUBJECT OF THIS REQUEST.
07:13:44PM TO BE BRIEF, I FIND IT TO BE INCREMENTAL.
07:13:52PM DEVELOPMENTS OF THIS SCALE CAN BE CHALLENGING, JUST FROM A
07:13:56PM TREE PERSPECTIVE, SO I DON'T FIND THIS TO BE PARTICULARLY
07:14:01PM SURPRISING THAT THERE IS SOME TIDYING UP TO DO OVER THE
07:14:08PM TEN-YEAR LIFESPAN OF A PROJECT AND THAT IS HOW I
07:14:10PM CHARACTERIZE THE REQUEST AND REQUEST WHY YOU ARE SUPPORT.
07:14:12PM THANK YOU.
07:14:13PM >> MAY I APPROACH THIS WITH COUNCIL?
07:14:30PM THANK YOU, AND GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
07:14:33PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:14:34PM BRIAN SEEL, PARLIAMENTARIAN OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
07:14:40PM 313 WEST PARK AVENUE, THREE BLOCKS NORTH OF ARMATURE WORKS.
07:14:45PM THCA OPPOSES THIS AB APPLICATION ON TWO GROUNDS.
07:14:50PM FIRST DIRECT SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES WITH THE APPLICATION ITSELF.
07:15:00PM NOT A ZERO SUM DEBATE IF THE HIGHLIGHTS DEVELOPMENT CAN ONLY
07:15:04PM BE GOOD OR ONLY BAD.
07:15:05PM WE ALSO KNOW THERE ARE TRADE-OFFS FOR LIVING IN URBAN VERSUS
07:15:09PM RURAL AREAS MORE NOISE, TRAFFIC, LIGHTS AND SUCH.
07:15:12PM BUT SERIOUS OPERATIONAL ISSUES THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT NEARBY
07:15:18PM RESIDENTS WE WOULD LIKE ADDRESSED AS THIS SITE GETS MORE
07:15:20PM BELT UP WITH MORE DINING AND ENTERTAINMENT VENUES THAN
07:15:24PM ATTRACT REGIONAL CUSTOMERS.
07:15:27PM AP 2 PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES TO CORRECT OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS
07:15:35PM PARKING, NOISE, HOURS AND SPECIAL EVENTS LIMITATIONS.
07:15:38PM CITY REGULARLY PLACES THESE TYPE OF CONDITIONS ON WET
07:15:41PM ZONINGS AND ESTABLISHMENTS WHICH ARE BINDING AND
07:15:46PM UNFORCEABLE.
07:15:47PM BY PROVIDED THE APPLICANT ABOUT COMMONSENSE CONDITIONS FOR
07:15:50PM EFFORT AB 2 BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM OUR RESIDENT AND THIS IS
07:15:55PM WHAT SITS IN YOU NOW.
07:15:57PM THE APPLICANT ACKNOWLEDGED TO RIGHT AND NEVER RESPONDED TO
07:16:01PM ITS CONTENT OR DISCUSSED WITH US IT SINCE DECEMBER 4.
07:16:06PM HAVE NOT FULL FELT THE COMMITMENT DURING THE LAST CONTINUE
07:16:10PM WARNS THAT WE SUPPORTED AT TIME.
07:16:13PM I ATTENDED THE COUNCIL MEETING IN SUPPORT OF THE CONTINUANCE
07:16:17PM ON BEHALF OF THE ORGANIZATION TO GIVE THE APPLICANT MORE
07:16:19PM TIME TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC.
07:16:20PM THE APPLICANT'S STATED MULTIPLE TIME THEY NEEDED A LONGER
07:16:24PM CONTINUANCE BEYOND THE 180-DAY MARK TO MEET WITH THE
07:16:27PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:16:27PM AT THAT MEETING, 30 MINUTES WERE SPENT DEBATING DUE TO A
07:16:31PM DEADLOCK VOTE.
07:16:32PM RULED OVER TO DECEMBER 15.
07:16:34PM I DEFAULT RULES.
07:16:35PM I WILL LIKE TO QUOTE THAT THAT THE DECEMBER 15 MEETING WHEN
07:16:39PM THAT CONTINUANCE WAS.
07:16:41PM COUNCILMAN CITRO SAID, WHAT WERE THE ACT OF EXTENUATING
07:16:46PM CIRCUMSTANCES.
07:16:47PM MISS COYLE HAD A MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
07:16:51PM ASSOCIATION.
07:16:51PM WE HAD A MEETING THAT WENT VERY WELL AND TRYING TO GET ON
07:16:54PM THEIR FEBRUARY 23 FOR THE GENERAL MEETING.
07:16:56PM MR. CITRO.
07:16:57PM ARE YOU ASKING FOR CONTINUANCE FOR THAT TIME AND PLUS A
07:17:00PM WAIVER OF 180 DAYS AND YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES ARE --
07:17:05PM MISS COYLE, OUT OF OUR CONTROL OVER FORCE MAJEURE, AND WE DO
07:17:10PM NOT CONTROL THE CALENDARS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS
07:17:14PM AND COUNCIL'S CALENDARS.
07:17:16PM WE WANT TO TALK BACK AND WHEN WE COORDINATE WITH THEM.
07:17:20PM FEBRUARY 13 AND 20, I E-MAILED MISS COYLE IF THEY WERE
07:17:23PM FOLLOWING MAKE ANY OF THCA'S REQUESTED CHANGES.
07:17:26PM THE ONLY QUESTION RESPONDED WAS A CONFIRMATION OF TONIGHT'S
07:17:31PM DATE.
07:17:31PM THE APPLICANT HAS NOT MET WITH NOR HOSTED IN I ADDITIONAL
07:17:34PM PUBLIC OUTREACH FOR MEMBERS OF TAMPA HEIGHTS AND RIDGEWOOD
07:17:38PM PARK SENSE THAT NIGHT.
07:17:39PM AND TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF ON VIOLATIONS.
07:17:43PM TWO DAYS AGO I SAW A STAFF REPORT FROM MARCH 16 UPLOADED
07:17:48PM TO ACELA.
07:17:49PM THIS APPLICANT WAS GIVEN 90 ADDITIONAL DAYS TO CONDUCT
07:17:54PM FURTHER PUBLIC OUTREACH AND WILL HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
07:17:58PM THANK YOU.
07:17:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
07:17:59PM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
07:18:04PM MISS COLE, YOU HAVE REBUTTAL.
07:18:09PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
07:18:10PM I BELIEVE THIS IS IN YOUR RECORD, BUT I WILL GO AHEAD AND
07:18:14PM SUBMIT IT.
07:18:14PM THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
07:18:26PM PACKET, WHICH IS ON FILE WITH A SYNOPSIS OF ALL OF THE
07:18:31PM CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MR. SEEL AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS FROM
07:18:38PM IF HONESTLY MARCH OF LAST YEAR ALL THE WAY TO I BELIEVE
07:18:45PM YESTERDAY AND WITH ALL THE EXPECTED RESPONSES WE HAD FOR
07:18:47PM EACH INDIVIDUAL QUESTION.
07:18:48PM THE -- IT IS TRUE, WE DID HAVE A MEETING DECEMBER 14.
07:18:52PM WE DID -- WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT.
07:18:54PM MR. HERNDON DID RESPOND BACK IN JANUARY TO MR. SEEL
07:18:59PM REQUESTING THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS AND
07:19:05PM THE -- AND THE COMMITTEE -- NOT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS BUT
07:19:08PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEMBERS TO REACH OUT TO THEM
07:19:10PM INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL TO TRY TO SCHEDULE SOMETHING.
07:19:13PM HE DID RESPOND WITH AN E-MAIL WITH WHO WAS SLATED TO BE
07:19:17PM ELECTED.
07:19:18PM WHO WAS NOMINATED FOR THE VOTE, WHICH WAS COMING UP IN
07:19:21PM FEBRUARY.
07:19:21PM WE HAD ANTICIPATED BEING INVITED; HOWEVER, WE WEREN'T FOR
07:19:26PM WHATEVER REASON -- TO THE MEETING.
07:19:30PM LET'S SEE.
07:19:32PM AS FAR AS THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT THE PARKING.
07:19:35PM NEIGHBORHOOD PARKING.
07:19:37PM RESIDENT PARKING PASS PROGRAMS.
07:19:40PM IT IS ACTUALLY IN THAT ENGAGEMENT PACKET AS WELL.
07:19:43PM THERE WAS AN EFFORT.
07:19:44PM WE JUST DOUBLED CHECKED YESTERDAY WITH THE CITY MOBILITY
07:19:47PM DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THERE WAS AN EFFORT THAT MR. HERNDON
07:19:50PM TRIED TO PUT IT TOGETHER.
07:19:52PM AND FROM MR. RIVOLTE WITH MOBILITY.
07:19:56PM HE RESPONDED AT THAT MR. SEEL WAS NOT ABLE TO GET 50% VOTE
07:20:01PM FROM AREA RESIDENTS TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT THAT PROGRAM.
07:20:03PM SO MR. HARD DID TRY TO SUPPORT THAT, BUT DID NOT SECURE THE
07:20:09PM 50% VOTE THAT IS REQUIRED SO MY CLIENT SHOULDN'T BE HELD
07:20:13PM RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A RESIDENT PARKING
07:20:17PM PROGRAM.
07:20:17PM AS FAR AS THE REQUEST GOES, I WILL GO BACK TO WHAT IS
07:20:19PM PROPOSED.
07:20:20PM IT IS AN INCREMENTAL CHANGE AS MR. PETERIKA MENTIONED DURING
07:20:26PM HIS COMMENTS.
07:20:27PM MR. WILLETS ALSO IS A FORMER BOARD MEMBER AND THE LETTER IS
07:20:32PM ON THE RECORD THAT HE IS IN FAVOR AS WELL.
07:20:34PM HE CAN ACCOUNT FOR ISSUES BETWEEN CERTAIN PERSONALITIES.
07:20:39PM ALL I CAN SAY THAT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IS AN INCREMENTAL
07:20:43PM CHANGE WHAT IS ALREADY APPROVED.
07:20:44PM IT RECOGNIZES THE TRUEING UP OF THE ACTUAL GRID AS IT EXISTS
07:20:48PM AS IT WAS PLATTED.
07:20:50PM TRUES UP THE OUTDOOR SALES AREA TO THE ACTUAL GRID THAT WAS
07:20:54PM BUILT AND ACCOUNTS FOR THE ADDITIONAL THREE SMALL AREAS THAT
07:20:57PM WERE ADDED IN THE REZONING THAT YOU APPROVED LAST YEAR AND
07:21:00PM ACCOUNTS FOR THE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOT AND ENTITLEMENTS
07:21:04PM THAT YOU IMPROVE IN THE REZONING WHICH ARE NORMALLY -- USES
07:21:09PM THAT HAVE ACCESSORY ALCOHOL SUCH AS HOTELS, GROCERY STORES,
07:21:14PM RESTAURANTS, AND RETAIL.
07:21:15PM I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
07:21:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:21:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HAVE A CONCERN OF THINGS THAT DON'T
07:21:28PM EXIST, BUT YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING AN AB LICENSE.
07:21:32PM I MEAN, THAT IS A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY OVER THERE.
07:21:35PM MUCH.
07:21:37PM >> THIS AN AB PERMIT OVER THE VACANT LAND RIGHT NOW.
07:21:42PM GEOGRAPHICALLY IT IS NOT CHANGING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE
07:21:51PM THREE SMALL PIECES MARKED IN YELLOW THAT WERE ADDED IN THE
07:21:57PM REZONING.
07:22:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:22:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ARE THE -- WHAT ARE YOUR -- WHAT IS YOUR
07:22:15PM OPPOSITION TO ADDING SOME OF THESE SPECIFICATIONS FOR
07:22:19PM SPECIAL EVENTS, DEFINITIONS, LIMITS ON THE NUMBER AND
07:22:24PM DURATION OF THESE TYPES OF EVENTS.
07:22:29PM IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED WITH
07:22:32PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY DIDN'T GET ANSWERS TO -- I AM
07:22:38PM HESITANT BECAUSE IT SEEMS -- THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT --
07:22:44PM THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH.
07:22:46PM AND NOW THEY ARE JUST SORT OF OUT THERE.
07:22:48PM WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE -- WHAT THE ISSUES -- WHAT THE
07:22:52PM CONDITIONS COULD BE.
07:22:53PM I MEAN, THESE ARE VERY SPECIFIC.
07:22:56PM >> IF YOU WERE SPEAKING OF THE E-MAIL THAT WAS 12/4.
07:23:01PM LANGUAGE TO BE ADDED TO AB 2.
07:23:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE AB 2 --
07:23:07PM >> A LOT OF THIS ON HERE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
07:23:10PM ALCOHOL.
07:23:10PM I WANT TO POINT TO THAT OUT.
07:23:14PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPECIAL EVENT PIECE, THIS IS A PD-A AND
07:23:20PM THE PD-A HAS SPECIAL CONDITIONS.
07:23:24PM AND IT IS IN THE ZONING.
07:23:26PM WE DOESN'T TO CREATE A STANDARD WHERE THERE ARE TWO
07:23:29PM DIFFERENT STANDARDS AND IT IS DIFFICULT TO FIRST DEGREE OUT
07:23:31PM WHAT TO ENFORCE.
07:23:32PM AND HOW TO OPERATE.
07:23:37PM >> THESE ARE PRETTY REASONABLE.
07:23:45PM SMALL.
07:23:47PM 750.
07:23:48PM LARGE IS ANYTHING OVER 750.
07:23:51PM >>THE ONLY THING I WILL ADD TO THAT NOT TYPICAL THAT YOU
07:23:54PM WILL CREATE DEFINITIONS FOR USES AND OUTLINE THEM AND THAT
07:23:57PM TYPE OF THING IN A SINGLE ZONING.
07:23:59PM THIS IS THE SAME INSTANCE -- THE EXACT STEAM EXAMPLE WHAT WE
07:24:04PM WERE TRYING TO DO WITH THE NOISE THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
07:24:06PM TOLD US NOT TO DO.
07:24:07PM WORKSHOP TRYING TO ADD DEFINED CONDITIONS FOR NOISE THAT
07:24:10PM DIDN'T APPLY IN THE AREA TO THE SPECIFIC CASE.
07:24:12PM AND WE WERE TOLD WE COULD NOT DO THAT BECAUSE LEGALLY IT IS
07:24:17PM JUST THIS CASE.
07:24:17PM AGAIN, CREATING USES AND CREATING DEFINITIONS WHEN IT ONLY
07:24:21PM APPLIES TO ONE PARTICULAR THING.
07:24:22PM YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, BUT SEEMS THE
07:24:26PM SAME TO ME.
07:24:27PM THAT IT WOULD NOT BE A NORMAL PLACE -- THERE WILL BE A CODE
07:24:30PM AMENDMENT TO THAT.
07:24:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, PUTTING SOME CONDITIONS ON -- I KNOW IT
07:25:03PM SAYS THAT THEY TOOK OUT THE NOISE CONDITION.
07:25:05PM CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THEY HAD TO --
07:25:10PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
07:25:11PM DEPARTMENT.
07:25:12PM WE DID RECOMMEND AND REQUEST THAT THEY REMOVE THAT, BECAUSE,
07:25:16PM AS YOU KNOW, NOISE IS DEALT WITH IN DIFFERENT CHAPTER --
07:25:20PM CHAPTER 14.
07:25:20PM AND WE PROVIDE THE DECIBEL LEVEL STANDARDS, THE VARIOUS
07:25:25PM STANDARDS FOR NOISE LEVEL MEASUREMENT IN THE CODE AND NOT IN
07:25:29PM INDIVIDUAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMITS.
07:25:32PM WE THOUGHT THAT THAT IS WHERE IT BELONGED.
07:25:34PM IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A LEGISLATIVE CHANGE SHOULD BE MADE
07:25:38PM IN THE CODE AND SHOULD APPLY CITY WIDE WITH AN ALCOHOL
07:25:42PM BEVERAGE PERMIT.
07:25:43PM UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE A COPY AND I DON'T KNOW THAT
07:25:45PM STAFF HAS BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE PROPOSED CONDITION
07:25:48PM THAT MR. SEEL HAS PROVIDED TO YOU.
07:25:51PM HAVING NOT HAD THE BENEFIT OF LOOKING AT THEM, I CAN'T SPEAK
07:25:55PM TO THE SPECIFICS OF IT.
07:25:56PM BUT COUNCIL CAN CERTAINLY ADD CONDITIONS OR MODIFY
07:26:00PM CONDITIONS IN THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IF
07:26:02PM YOU FEEL IT IS ESSENTIAL TO IT THE -- TO YOUR DECISION.
07:26:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE SAYING WE CAN ADD --
07:26:08PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: CERTAINLY.
07:26:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU JUST SAID WE CAN'T.
07:26:11PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THE NOISE CONDITION IS WHAT I WAS
07:26:15PM TALKING ABOUT.
07:26:15PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SPECIFICS ARE THAT WERE PROPOSED OR
07:26:18PM INCLUDED IN MR. SEEL.
07:26:21PM AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PUT UNDER PRESSURE TO READ THIS
07:26:25PM EVENING.
07:26:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
07:26:27PM THESE CONCERNS SEEM INCREDIBLY VALUE HE HAD, AND WHETHER OR
07:26:32PM NOT IT HAS TO DO WITH THIS, I -- I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE
07:26:38PM NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A CHANCE THEY ARE
07:26:41PM TRYING TO TAKE TO ACTUALLY GET RESPONSE.
07:26:43PM FROM THE DEVELOPER.
07:26:46PM I COULD BE WRONG THERE.
07:26:47PM I WILL LET THEM SPEAK TO THAT.
07:26:49PM BUT HE THINKS MR. GUDES HAD A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
07:26:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I BE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
07:26:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
07:26:57PM >> EVERYTHING COMES TO PASS.
07:26:59PM YOU SEE, WE TALKED ABOUT -- I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT NOISE.
07:27:02PM TALKING ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS THAT DON'T -- WE DON'T
07:27:07PM HAVE.
07:27:07PM TO ME IN MY MIND.
07:27:13PM I ONLY HAVE A 8th GRADE EDUCATION.
07:27:17PM BUT IN MY MIND ARMATURE WORKS WILL TURN INTO AN
07:27:20PM ENTERTAINMENT AREA.
07:27:21PM THAT IS WHAT THAT IS GOING TO BE.
07:27:23PM NOW YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:27:24PM WE SAY.
07:27:30PM AND I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS CHANGED.
07:27:33PM AND THE HOUSES UP FRONT AVOCADO TREES.
07:27:42PM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SAYING A RESIDENTIAL AREA WITH NICE,
07:27:45PM FANCY APARTMENT AND YOU WERE GIVEN THE CRA AND SOME OF WHY
07:27:52PM YOU ARE COMMITMENTS HAVEN'T BEEN FULFILLED.
07:27:55PM SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAYING THEY EMBRACED
07:27:59PM IT.
07:27:59PM AND GAVE YOU IN CRA AND TAMPA HEIGHTS AND OTHER PORTIONS OF
07:28:04PM TAMPA HEIGHTS HAVE A CHANCE TO BE PART OF IT.
07:28:07PM ONLY A SELECT AREA.
07:28:17PM AND WE ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS THEY SAY.
07:28:20PM WHEN DO WE GET OUR DELIVERABLES.
07:28:23PM THAT IS WHY I QUESTIONED ALL THE IT SHALL IN MY MIND SAYS
07:28:26PM ARMATURE WORKS AND MY COLLEAGUE.
07:28:37PM TALK ABOUT THE RESTAURANT AND WARS ABOUT MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ
07:28:49PM IS WORKING ON IT.
07:28:50PM THIS IS WHAT IT HAS TO BE WITH THIS MUCH ALCOHOL.
07:28:54PM I DON'T CARE WHAT HAD YOU SAY, FLIP IT THE WAY YOU IT.
07:28:59PM APPROVING MORE A GETTING THE DELIVERABLES.
07:29:04PM THE COMMUNITY HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THE DELIVERABLES.
07:29:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:29:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM TRYING TO GO BACK AND REMEMBER WHAT
07:29:18PM HAPPENED YEARS AGO.
07:29:18PM EXCUSE ME, ATTORNEY -- I AM JUST GOING BACK YEARS AGO.
07:29:23PM AND I BELIEVE AT ONE TIME, WASN'T THIS WHOLE AREA WET ZONED?
07:29:29PM THE WHOLE AREA?
07:29:31PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THE WHOLE AREA OF THE HEIGHTS?
07:29:32PM THERE IS A ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMIT FROM 2013.
07:29:36PM THAT DOES COVER THIS AREA.
07:29:37PM SO WHAT THIS -- THIS IS ONLY ALLOWS 119,000 SQUARE FEET OF
07:29:43PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SQUARE FOOT AND.
07:29:46PM THIS APPLICATION SEEKS TO INCREASE THAT TO $226,000 SQUARE
07:29:51PM FEET.
07:29:51PM IT IS SEEKING TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR
07:29:55PM ALCOHOL BEVERAGES.
07:29:56PM >> IT WAS ZONED.
07:30:00PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WITHIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT.
07:30:02PM INCREASING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AVAILABLE FOR ALCOHOLIC
07:30:07PM BEVERAGE SALES.
07:30:11PM >> JUST TO CLARIFY THE SAME FOOTPRINT WITH THE ADDITION AND
07:30:17PM THE LITTLE NOTCH AT THE TOP.
07:30:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REMEMBER IT WAS DRY, ALL OF IT AND THEN
07:30:23PM ALCOHOL.
07:30:23PM AND ALL OF IT WENT ALCOHOL.
07:30:25PM >> THE ORIGINAL WAS 2008, YEAH.
07:30:31PM 2013 WAS JUST AN UPDATE WHEN THE NEW OWNER CAME IN.
07:30:35PM BUT IT REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE MUCH AT THAT POINT.
07:30:38PM THAT IS WHY IT STILL HAS THE OLD GRAPHIC FOR THE OLD STREET.
07:30:43PM AND I -- THE ONLY THING I WOULD COUNTER ALSO IS WITH THE
07:30:49PM AGREEMENT, CRA, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE
07:30:53PM AND I TOTALLY HEAR YOU.
07:30:55PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXPECTING THE IMPROVEMENT.
07:30:57PM MY CLIENT -- ANY CLIENT, ANY DEVELOPER CAN'T NECESSARILY BE
07:31:01PM HELD TO WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MARKET.
07:31:03PM BUT I CAN SAY BEING THE ORIGINAL PLANNER ON THIS FROM 2005
07:31:07PM ON THIS WAS IT SHALL IT WAS A WASTELAND FOR A LONG TIME
07:31:13PM BEFORE THIS DEVELOPER CAME IN.
07:31:14PM AND HE HAS ACTUALLY DONE AT LEAST HALF OF IT.
07:31:17PM AND THERE ARE PLANS IN RIGHT NOW FOR INCREMENTAL APPROVAL
07:31:22PM FOR SECOND PHASE OF THE APARTMENT AND FOR OF THE HOTEL.
07:31:25PM SO THERE ARE MORE BUILDINGS COMING.
07:31:27PM AS HE BUILDS THEM OUT, THAT IS WHY HE IS ASKING FOR THE EN
07:31:31PM CEMENTAL CHANGE.
07:31:32PM IF YOU WERE HERE ASKING FOR 174 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF
07:31:37PM ALCOHOL LIKE MIDTOWN GOT, IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT QUESTION
07:31:40PM ALL TOGETHER, I THINK.
07:31:41PM BUT AGAIN 9 -- HOW THIS IS OVER -- ALMOST 40 ACRES OF AND
07:31:47PM WILL, IT IS SPREAD OUT.
07:31:48PM IT IS NOT AS CONCENTRATED.
07:31:50PM THANK YOU.
07:32:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:32:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.
07:32:11PM THANK YOU -- TIME SORRY.
07:32:15PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THAT'S OKAY.
07:32:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ARE THE OTHER -- SO WITH THIS ALCOHOL,
07:32:26PM WE CAN'T -- WE CAN'T REAR THE DEVELOPER TO MEET WITH THE
07:32:29PM NEIGHBORS AND DO ANYTHING.
07:32:30PM WE CAN'T DO THAT.
07:32:31PM BUT THE FUTURE STUFF THAT -- THAT IS COMING IN THE PIPELINE,
07:32:36PM IS THIS -- IS THIS -- I WAS NOT HERE FOR THIS TOTAL
07:32:39PM REDEVELOPMENT.
07:32:40PM IS THIS ONE OF THOSE PD-As WHERE EVERYTHING IS JUST BEING
07:32:46PM DONE WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK TO US OR IT YOU IT HAVE TO
07:32:49PM COME BACK TO US?
07:32:52PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: I AM GOING TO ASK STAFF TO MAYBE
07:32:54PM RESPOND TO THAT.
07:32:55PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
07:32:58PM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:33:00PM CURRENTLY THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS A PD-A AND A PHASED
07:33:06PM DEVELOPMENT.
07:33:07PM ON EACH PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT, THE IF DEVELOPER SUBMITS FOR
07:33:12PM INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN REVIEW AND WHERE THEY SUBMIT A
07:33:15PM DETAILED SITE PLAN AND APRIL APPROVAL.
07:33:17PM IT MUST BE KENT WITH THE OVERALL PD-A.
07:33:20PM SO EACH TIME IT IS SENT IT HAS A DRAW DOWN FROM IT THE
07:33:26PM ENTITLEMENTS IN IF THE PD-A.
07:33:30PM ONE THAT COMES EN CEMENT ALLEY, REVIEW A ADMINISTRATIVELY.
07:33:34PM WOULDN'T COME BACK TO COUNCIL BECAUSE WOULD YOU HAVE SEEN
07:33:37PM THE OTHER PD-A.
07:33:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS MY QUESTION.
07:33:41PM NO OTHER WAY TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR
07:33:44PM LOOKING INTO ANY OF THIS.
07:33:47PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
07:33:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
07:33:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:33:58PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:34:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MISS COYLE.
07:34:13PM YES, MA'AM.
07:34:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE IS NO WAY THAT THIS COULD BE DISCUSSED
07:34:18PM AND TREED TO FIGURE OUT BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE
07:34:22PM NEIGHBORS?
07:34:27PM >> AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE
07:34:29PM VOTE.
07:34:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
07:34:31PM >>COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:34:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:34:34PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:34:36PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:34:37PM ANY OPPOSED?
07:34:39PM MOTION PASSES.
07:34:40PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:34:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
07:34:43PM MOVE AN ORDINANCE APPROVING SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
07:34:54PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
07:34:58PM PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES.
07:35:00PM OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
07:35:04PM BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE AND
07:35:06PM LIQUOR AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND
07:35:10PM LOCATED 1910 AND 2009 NORTH OLA AVENUE, 202, 220 AND 310
07:35:19PM WEST 7th AVENUE, 1810 AND 1812 NORTH HIGHLAND AVENUE, 1905,
07:35:26PM 1907, 1912, 20002 NORTH TAMPA STREET.
07:35:34PM 183341.0198; 183341.0162; 183341.0163; 183341.0166;
07:35:34PM 183341.0180; 183341.0182; 183341.0184; 183341.0186;
07:36:20PM 183341.0188; 183341.0190; 183341.0192; AND 183341.0200 AS
07:36:20PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 -- THANK GOD -- AS
07:36:33PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXCEPTION PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCE
07:36:36PM OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER
07:36:44PM 2013-64 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:36:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
07:36:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:36:50PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:36:51PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
07:36:54PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:36:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SQUARE
07:36:58PM FOOTAGE BEING INCREASED AT ALL.
07:37:00PM MY CONCERN IS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVEN'T FELT LIKE IT HAS
07:37:05PM BEEN HEARD.
07:37:06PM AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE ONLY SPACE THEY CAN -- THEY CAN
07:37:09PM BE HEARD.
07:37:10PM I WOULD -- I WOULD LOVE FOR THE -- THE PETITIONER TO SAY
07:37:17PM ABSOLUTELY AFTER THIS, WE WILL CERTAINLY GET TOGETHER.
07:37:20PM WE WILL WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRY TO SOLVE THESE
07:37:24PM PROBLEMS.
07:37:27PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN BE DONE AT THE CRA LEVEL, BUT THOSE
07:37:32PM ARE MY CONCERNS APPROVING THIS.
07:37:34PM DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
07:37:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:37:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: OBVIOUSLY VERY COMMUNITY-MINDED CONCERNS FROM
07:37:47PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:37:47PM I WONDER IF WE COULD -- I DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP A CAN OF
07:37:52PM WORMS.
07:37:52PM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
07:37:54PM ASK IF THE PETITIONER WILL BE WILLING TO DO IT BETWEEN FIRST
07:37:58PM AND SECOND REASONS TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
07:38:00PM PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
07:38:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WOULD HAVE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
07:38:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU ALL WANT TO.
07:38:06PM SHE IS STANDING UP.
07:38:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
07:38:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BY
07:38:13PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:38:14PM SECONDED BE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:38:15PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:38:17PM OPPOSED.
07:38:18PM >> I FORGOT ABOUT SECOND READING.
07:38:21PM WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE LIST
07:38:25PM OF CONCERNS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
07:38:28PM >> OBVIOUSLY, CATHERINE COYLE.
07:38:30PM I EXPECT COMMIT THAT MY CLIENT WILL SPEAK TO THEM, BUT I
07:38:35PM WILL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN FROM MY
07:38:38PM PERSPECTIVE.
07:38:38PM I CAN SAY -- JUST SO YOU KNOW, I CAN SAY THAT AFTER THE
07:38:48PM DECEMBER MEETING, HE HAS COMMITTED TO AN AUGUST SESSION
07:38:51PM WHERE HE REACHES OUT.
07:38:52PM BECAUSE FOR THE OCTOBER SEASON -- WHAT HE DID COMET TO THEM
07:38:55PM ON A SEASONAL BASIS WHEN THE NEW EVENTS COME OUT, HE PLANS
07:38:59PM TO REACH OUT TO THEM A COUPLE OF MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
07:39:01PM AT THAT MEETING IN DECEMBER, THE SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR
07:39:05PM FOR ARMATURE WORK AND INTRODUCED HER TO THEM AND HER
07:39:08PM INFORMATION WENT OUT TO ALL OF THEM.
07:39:10PM THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE SHE REACHES OUT MIDYEAR AUGUST WHEN
07:39:14PM THEY START PLANNING THAT TO ROLL OUT THE CALENDAR THROUGH
07:39:17PM THE SEASON SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS COMING IN ADVANCE OF
07:39:21PM IT ACTUALLY BEING ANNOUNCED.
07:39:23PM THAT I KNOW WILL HAPPEN.
07:39:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE ONE OF THE ISSUES IS DESIGNATING AN
07:39:29PM ARMATURE WORKS POINT OF CONTACT.
07:39:31PM >> THAT WAS ALREADY DONE.
07:39:32PM HER NAME -- HE THINKS IT IS STEPHANIE.
07:39:35PM SHE IS IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
07:39:37PM HER NAME WAS LISTED IN THERE WITH THE CONTACT INFORMATION.
07:39:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS IF SOME MOVEMENT
07:39:44PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM
07:39:47PM DENYING IT IF ON SECOND READING THAT THAT CONVERSATION
07:39:51PM HAVEN'T STARTED TO HAPPEN.
07:39:52PM >> UNDERSTOOD.
07:39:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:39:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY COLLEAGUE TO THE LEFT OF ME POINTED
07:40:00PM SOMETHING OUT HERE.
07:40:01PM DOES THIS PROJECT -- THAT DEVELOPMENT -- IN THE CRA ZONE,
07:40:06PM CORRECT.
07:40:06PM RECEIVED CRA DOLLARS.
07:40:10PM >> I BELIEVE IT GOES TO THE CDD.
07:40:13PM THIS IS WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT IT TOO.
07:40:15PM THERE ARE VERY -- SEVERAL LAYERS OF AGREEMENTS, REGULATIONS
07:40:20PM AND RULES ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
07:40:21PM NOT TWO GUYS DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT.
07:40:24PM PDA-A, THE ALCOHOL, THE AGREEMENT THAT FEEDS THE CDD, THE
07:40:32PM SPECIAL ASSESSMENT THAT MAINTAINS THE UTILITIES AND
07:40:36PM INFRASTRUCTURE AND A VERY LARGE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS
07:40:38PM WELL THAT CONTROLS EVERYTHING.
07:40:40PM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.
07:40:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REASON I ASK THAT --
07:40:45PM >> WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
07:40:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REASON I ASK THAT.
07:40:48PM WE TALK OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
07:40:50PM AND IT IS IN A CRA.
07:40:52PM I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL SITS ON THAT BOARD.
07:40:54PM HOW THE BOARD IS OPERATED.
07:40:57PM IT IS OPERATED DIFFERENTLY.
07:41:00PM I HAVE A LIST OF CONCERNS FROM CITIZENS AND IT IS A CRA AND
07:41:04PM SOME OF THEM HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED, THAT BOTHERS ME.
07:41:08PM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE PRICE PER SE BUT THE
07:41:11PM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
07:41:12PM WHAT I SEE DOWN THE LINE IF WE DON'T AS A FUTURE COUNCIL.
07:41:16PM WE TALK OF NOISE AND ENTERTAINMENT.
07:41:18PM THOSE ISSUE ALSO COME BACK AGAIN TO SOME FUTURE COUNCIL
07:41:21PM BECAUSE WHAT I SEE RIGHT NOW, I CAN SEE IT ALREADY.
07:41:25PM >> I ACTUALLY ATTENDED THE OCTOBER -- I THINK IT WAS THE
07:41:29PM OCTOBER MEETING OF THE HAVE I RADIO HE COMMITTEE AND PRESENT
07:41:32PM IT TO THEM AND THEY HAD NO ISSUES.
07:41:34PM IT WAS AT THE BUSH ROSS BUILDING.
07:41:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: OKAY.
07:41:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:41:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS LOOKING AT THE MEETING BETWEEN
07:41:49PM YOURSELF AND THE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
07:41:50PM THE NEIGHBORS -- DID THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD REQUIREMENTS --
07:41:54PM I GUESSES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
07:41:56PM AND LOOKING AT THE -- AT DIFFERENT THINGS HERE.
07:41:59PM I AM SURE THAT CERTAINLY -- LIKE CROSSWALKS AND THAT WILL BE
07:42:06PM OBTAINED AT DUE TIME AND TRAFFIC DESIRES THAT AND WILL HAVE
07:42:10PM TO BE THERE.
07:42:10PM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT IS MUCH MORE DENSER IN THE FUTURE THAN
07:42:13PM IT IS TODAY.
07:42:14PM AND ALREADY -- AND I TELL YOU WHAT, RIGHT NOW THE PLACE IS A
07:42:18PM DEGREES NATION POINT FOR A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE CITY,
07:42:20PM INCLUDING MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY.
07:42:22PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT CRA DOLLARS, AND YOU LOOK AT A -- SOMETHING
07:42:27PM THIS LARGE, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT IS IN THE KINDNESS OF
07:42:33PM THE HEART TO ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS PUT IN?
07:42:37PM >> YOU ARE ASKING FOR HIM TO CONSIDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
07:42:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OUT OF THE KINDNESS OF THE HEART.
07:42:43PM I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO OR NOT DO WITH WHY YOU ARE
07:42:45PM PROPERTY.
07:42:45PM I HAVE TO REPHRASE MYSELF SO THE STATE DOESN'T COME AFTER
07:42:49PM ALL OF US.
07:42:50PM >> I CAN NOT SPEAK TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, BUT I CAN
07:42:52PM SAY IN DISCUSSING OTHER PROJECTS WITH MY CLIENT BECAUSE HE
07:42:57PM DEVELOPS EVERYWHERE, HE IS VERY AFFORDABLE HOUSING MINDED
07:43:00PM AND SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT HE HAS GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH
07:43:04PM MANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS, NOT SPECIFICALLY IN THE
07:43:06PM HEIGHTS, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT
07:43:09PM HE HAS.
07:43:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: REMIND ME WHEN YOU REMIND YOURSELF WHEN
07:43:12PM YOU HEAR ABOUT WHY YOU ARE DEVELOPER, LET YOUR KNOWN AND
07:43:16PM REMIND ME?
07:43:17PM >> I WOULDN'T MIND.
07:43:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:43:20PM >> THANK YOU.
07:43:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:43:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MISS COYLE, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE WHEN
07:43:27PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETS, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU
07:43:29PM GET ON THEIR E-MAIL LIST.
07:43:31PM BECAUSE THEY SEND LOTS OF E-MAIL BLASTS.
07:43:33PM YOU CAN NOT MISS A MEETING.
07:43:35PM IF YOU GO BACK THERE AND GET ON THEIR E-MAIL LIST, I PROMISE
07:43:38PM YOU YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MISS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF A
07:43:41PM MEETING.
07:43:42PM SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THAT HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HAVE A
07:43:47PM MEETING BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
07:43:50PM >> THANK YOU.
07:43:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:43:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: I SHARE THE CONCERNS OF MY COL LOTION.
07:43:55PM THESE DEVELOPERS ARE VERY ENLIGHTENED.
07:43:58PM SOME OF THE MOST BRILLIANT MINDS IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE GREAT
07:44:03PM IDEAS AND TYPICALLY TRY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY --
07:44:05PM COMMUNITY.
07:44:06PM I CAN SEE BY THE ATTITUDE OF THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES
07:44:09PM THAT THEY ARE VERY FRUSTRATED.
07:44:10PM AND WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS OF IT.
07:44:13PM AND THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE GOTTEN ESSENTIALLY IS THAT NOTHING
07:44:17PM IS GOING TO HAPPEN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING BECAUSE
07:44:21PM NOTHING HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN.
07:44:23PM BECAUSE I AM NOT CONFIDENT THAT ANYTHING WILL HAPPEN, I WILL
07:44:26PM RELUCTANTLY VOTE NO BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME
07:44:29PM REASONABLE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED.
07:44:31PM I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO VOTE NO, BUT IF -- IF -- BUT THERE
07:44:35PM IS -- IT -- THE ATTITUDE SEEMS TO BE VERY DISMISS SIEVE OF
07:44:40PM THE COMMUNITY WHICH IS TRUST READING.
07:44:42PM A BIG DEAL AND A BIG PROJECT WITH MULTIPLE LAYERS.
07:44:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:44:50PM I WILL -- CAN I ASK MR. SEEL DO YOU THINK A MEETING BETWEEN
07:45:18PM FIRST AND SECOND READING WILL BE BEN FISH SHALL OR HAPPEN?
07:45:24PM >> IN WOULD BE ASSUMPTION IF IT MAY OR MAY NOT.
07:45:27PM I CAN GO BY STAFFING IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL THREE MONTHS
07:45:32PM AGO WHEN THAT WAS ASKED TO HAPPEN AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
07:45:36PM AGAIN A DEBATE HOW GOOD OR BAD THE COMMUNITY OCCASION WAS.
07:45:39PM I WOULD SAY THAT AS A GROUP OF CITIZENS, MANY OF WHOM THE
07:45:43PM MOST ACTIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN THAT THEY
07:45:46PM TEAMS HAVE TO BRING ALONG TO PUBLIC MEETINGS AND ARE MOST
07:45:49PM AFFECTED BY SOME OF THE LOUD NOISE ISSUES THAT GO ON THERE,
07:45:53PM IT IS DIFFICULT TO BE ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY AND ATTEND
07:45:57PM MANY SCORES OF MEETINGS AND KEEP UP WITH COMMUNITY
07:46:00PM ENGAGEMENT THE WAY THAT A FOR-PROFIT INDIVIDUAL DOES.
07:46:05PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE MONTHLY BOARD MEETINGS.
07:46:09PM WE HAVE MONTHLY GENERAL MEETINGS.
07:46:11PM WE JUST SHIFTED FROM THURSDAY TO WEDNESDAY TO ACCOMMODATE
07:46:15PM COUNCIL MEETINGS ON THURSDAY; HOWEVER, THE TIME, LOCATION,
07:46:19PM ALL THAT HAS BEEN SET IN STONE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
07:46:22PM NOT HARD TO FIND US.
07:46:24PM IN TERMS OF -- OUT OF CONJECTURE.
07:46:29PM I HAVE A VERY LOW FEELING OF CONFIDENCE THAT ANY
07:46:32PM ACCOMMODATIONS WILL BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READ
07:46:36PM PARTIALLY BECAUSE THERE IS A RANGE OF FEELS BETWEEN
07:46:38PM RESIDENTS ON THIS CASE.
07:46:40PM I PERSONALLY CAN TELL YOU I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE
07:46:43PM SQUARE FOOTAGE CONTAINED WITHIN HERE.
07:46:45PM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE BORDER CHANGES.
07:46:47PM NOT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ALL GOOD OR ALL BAD, IT IS IN
07:46:51PM THE DETAILS AND THE NUANCES HOW THIS IS OPERATIONALLY DONE.
07:46:58PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET IN A DEEPER DISCUSSION AND
07:47:01PM ASKED FOR AND IT HAVEN'T OCCURRED SINCE WE FIRST LEARNED OF
07:47:04PM THIS.
07:47:05PM AND IN ADVANCE OF THE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER HEARING.
07:47:08PM WHATEVER THAT FIRST HEARING WAS.
07:47:10PM WE HAVE BEEN TRYING SINCE THEN TO DEAL INTO THE DETAILS.
07:47:15PM >> IF I COULD ONLY IN REBUTTAL.
07:47:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL GIVE YOU TIME FOR REBUTTAL, MISS
07:47:24PM COLE.
07:47:24PM I WAS PLANNING TO DO THAT.
07:47:25PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:47:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE
07:47:31PM UP HERE.
07:47:31PM DIFFERENT IDEAS.
07:47:32PM AND PEOPLE GOOD AT TALKING.
07:47:35PM A LIGHT GOES ON.
07:47:37PM MY CONCERN WITH THE PROJECT -- I THINK IT HAS SOME GREAT
07:47:43PM POINTS.
07:47:44PM BUT ALSO SOME COMMUNITY CONCERNS.
07:47:45PM AND FOR ME THERE ARE BEING IN A CRA, AND OUR CRA SAYS 30% TO
07:47:52PM HOUSING, IN THE FUTURE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IS BEING
07:47:55PM UPHELD WITH THIS PROJECT.
07:47:57PM PERIOD.
07:47:57PM BECAUSE 30% WAS SAID TO BE DONE IN ALL CRAs REGARDLESS.
07:48:03PM ALL CRAs.
07:48:06PM SO GOING FORWARD -- THIS MAY GO THROUGH TONIGHT, BUT GOING
07:48:10PM FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR HUGE PROJECT OVER THERE, MAN.
07:48:15PM DATED 30% AND NEEDS TO BE WATCHED AND THIS BOARD AND COUNCIL
07:48:19PM NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED, PERIOD.
07:48:22PM PUT THE MESSAGE OUT MESS COYLE.
07:48:26PM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT BUT I CAN BE BEHIND THAT PODIUM
07:48:29PM RAISING HILL ABOUT 30% BECAUSE 30% IS SAID TO BE IN ALL
07:48:33PM PROJECTS ESPECIALLY IN CRAs, THANK YOU.
07:48:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. CHELSEA.
07:48:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU CAN ASK STAFF.
07:48:41PM A DEVELOPMENT 'AGREEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS THAT I
07:48:44PM UNDERSTAND.
07:48:44PM IS THAT WHAT CONTROLS --
07:48:46PM >> THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONTROLS -- NO AFFORDABLE
07:48:49PM PROVISION IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT IS ADOPTED.
07:48:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS DONE
07:48:56PM BEFORE OR AFTER THE POLICY --
07:48:59PM >> I BELIEVE THE LAST ONE WAS PROBABLY AROUND 2012, 2013.
07:49:02PM MAYBE 2018.
07:49:03PM 2014?
07:49:05PM 2014.
07:49:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY POLICY AND THE REASON -- THE QUESTION
07:49:09PM IS WHAT CONTROLS.
07:49:10PM THE POLICY OR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
07:49:13PM >> I AM NOT SURE THE 30% BECAUSE THEY PREEMPTED LOCAL
07:49:17PM GOVERNMENTS FROM MAN.
07:49:18PM DATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
07:49:20PM 30% OF THE FUNDING -- BUT YOU CAN'T REQUIRE IT IN
07:49:23PM REQUIREMENTS BY STATE LAW.
07:49:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST ONE OTHER -- FOR COUNCIL'S REMINDER.
07:49:32PM THAT WITHIN YOUR STAFF REPORT, IT SAYS SECTION 129, THE
07:49:37PM GENERAL STANDARDS AND DOES INCLUDE SOME THINGS THAT COUNCIL
07:49:39PM CAN CONSIDER RELATIVE TO WHAT IS BEING ASKED.
07:49:42PM AND ONE OF THEM IS THE CONTROL OF POTENTIALLY ADVERSE
07:49:46PM EFFECTS GENERALLY AND THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR YOUR REVIEW IN
07:49:49PM THE STAFF REPORTS.
07:49:50PM THE CRITERIA, THAT IS.
07:49:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS COYLE, WOULD YOU LIKE REBUTTAL TIME
07:50:00PM NOW.
07:50:00PM >> CATHERINE COYLE FOR THE RECORD.
07:50:03PM THE ONLY THING I WILL REBUT, IN FAIRNESS TO MY CLIENT.
07:50:08PM MR. SEEL MADE IT SOUND LIKE NO CONTACT AND NO ATTENDANCE.
07:50:12PM WE WERE INVITED TO MEET INFORMATION 2022 WHICH WE DID
07:50:15PM ATTEND.
07:50:16PM I PERSONALLY HAVE EXPECTED TO SEE AN INVITE COME THROUGH
07:50:19PM BECAUSE IT CAME THROUGH THE LAST TIME.
07:50:21PM WE DID ATTEND IN OCTOBER.
07:50:23PM AND PLANNED TO ATTEND THE NOVEMBER, AND UNFORTUNATELY I HAD
07:50:27PM A FAMILY HEALTH EMERGENCY AND NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.
07:50:30PM BUT I DID SEND -- IN THAT ENGAGEMENT PACKAGE, FULL DETAILED
07:50:35PM OF ALL THE QUESTIONS I RECEIVED PRIOR TO OF MR. SEEL.
07:50:39PM EACH TIME DETAILED QUESTION PRIOR TO THAT CONTINUANCE, WE
07:50:44PM RESPONDED TO EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE PLAN IDENTIFYING WHAT
07:50:47PM WE WERE TRYING TO DO.
07:50:47PM THAT IS REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY AND I AM CERTAINLY GOING TO
07:50:52PM TALK TO MY CLIENT REACHING OUT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
07:50:55PM READING IF YOU ARE SO INCLINED TO APPROVE.
07:50:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:51:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WASN'T YOUR POINT FOR THE CONTINUANCE TO
07:51:04PM REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY?
07:51:07PM >> THERE WAS ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN -- IT IS IN THE PACKET.
07:51:10PM THERE WERE -- THERE WAS CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MR. HARDEN,
07:51:17PM MR. SEEL AND OTHER MEMBERS.
07:51:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AFTER DECEMBER 15.
07:51:21PM >> CORRECT.
07:51:21PM WE WERE WAITING FOR THE NEW ELECTION AND HE HAS BEEN IN
07:51:24PM CONTACT WITH THE NEW PRESIDENT, MR. MATT SINK, I BELIEVE HIS
07:51:30PM NAME IS.
07:51:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:51:32PM >> SECOND.
07:51:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ILLINOIS LET THIS ONE GO.
07:51:44PM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:51:46PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:51:48PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:51:50PM ANY OPPOSED?
07:51:51PM MOTION PASSES.
07:51:52PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:51:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
07:51:57PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
07:52:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WAS THAT MOTION, SIR?
07:52:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HE SO ELOQUENTLY SAID.
07:52:06PM WITH ALL THE NUMBERS IN THERE.
07:52:08PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
07:52:15PM FOR ME, THIS IS ALL ABOUT ALCOHOL.
07:52:17PM IN MY OPINION, IT JUST -- IT -- IN MY OPINION, IT IS LIKE
07:52:23PM THE WILD WEST.
07:52:24PM I UNDERSTAND IT IS INCREMENTAL.
07:52:27PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
07:52:28PM BUT THIS MANY SQUARE FOOT -- 200 SOME ODD THOUSAND SQUARE
07:52:34PM FOOT.
07:52:34PM I WAS OPPOSED AGAINST THE MIDTOWN.
07:52:36PM I WAS OPPOSED AGAINST THE HARBOUR ISLAND AND OPPOSED AGAINST
07:52:41PM THIS.
07:52:41PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:52:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
07:52:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:52:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:52:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:52:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
07:52:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
07:52:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
07:52:57PM >>CLERK: MOTION DID NOT PASS.
07:53:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
07:53:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS NOT OVER YET.
07:53:07PM MISS COYLE.
07:53:08PM MOTION TO DENY?
07:53:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEED A MOTION TO DENY.
07:53:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: STATE THE REASONS FOR IT, PLEASE, FOR THE
07:53:18PM RECORD.
07:53:19PM FRANKLY, I WILL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO GENERAL STANDARDS
07:53:28PM OF 29-129.
07:53:30PM I ASK THAT YOU REFERENCE THAT IN YOUR DECISION AND AS TO IT
07:53:33PM THE ADVERSE IMPACTS AND ADVERSE EFFECTS THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO
07:53:37PM BE ADDRESSED AS A RESULT OF YOUR DECISIONS AND FINDINGS OF
07:53:41PM FACT.
07:53:41PM IF ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBER OTHER THAN THE ONE MAKING THE
07:53:53PM MOTION HAVE ANY FINDINGS THEY WISH TO PUT INTO THE
07:53:57PM RECORD TO ADD TO THE MOTION.
07:53:58PM THAT WILL BE HELPFUL IF YOU WISH.
07:53:59PM IF YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT STAFF REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU, I CAN
07:54:10PM HAVE THAT PRINTED OFF, IF THAT IS IT NECESSARY.
07:54:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN LOOK AT IT.
07:54:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, DOES STAFF HAVE CHAPTER 127-129.
07:54:33PM >> PAGE 4, MARTY.
07:54:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PAGE 4?
07:54:38PM I HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN.
07:54:39PM >> I MOVE TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES,
07:55:25PM LARGE VENUE AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION AND
07:55:28PM MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOL
07:55:32PM CONSENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR
07:55:35PM TRACT OF AND WILL LOCATED AT 1910 AND 2009 NORTH OLA AVENUE,
07:55:41PM 202, 220 AND 310 WEST 7th AVENUE, 1810 AND 1812 NORTH
07:55:49PM HIGHLAND AVENUE, 1905, 1907, 1912 AND 2002 NORTH TAMPA
07:55:56PM STREET.
07:55:56PM 183341.0198; 183341.0162; 183341.0163; 183341.0166;
07:55:56PM 183341.0180; 183341.0182; 1836341.0184;183341.0186;
07:57:09PM 183341.0188; 183341.0190; 83341.0192; AND 183341.0200 AS
07:57:09PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXCEPTION 2 -- EXCEPTION 3.
07:57:13PM WELL, I AM NOT REPEALING, BECAUSE I AM DENYING.
07:57:20PM BECAUSE -- DUE TO CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO POTENTIALLY ADVERSE
07:57:30PM EFFECTS GENERALLY ON AN ADJOINING AND NEARBY PROPERTIES, THE
07:57:33PM AREA, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE CITY OF THE USE OR OCCUPANCY
07:57:36PM AS PROPOSED OR ITS LOCATION -- YEAH.
07:57:44PM PROPOSED.
07:57:45PM THAT -- THAT IS WHAT I WILL SAY.
07:57:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY FINDINGS WITH
07:57:50PM REGARDS YOU HEARD ON THE RECORD AND CONCERNS YOU HAVE?
07:57:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY CONCERNS ARE, AGAIN, THE ADVERSE EFFECTS
07:58:02PM ON ADJOINING AN NEARBY PROPERTIES AND LOCATIONS, INCLUDING
07:58:16PM -- NOISE AND SPECIAL EVENT DEFINITIONS, AND PARKING AND
07:58:21PM TRAFFIC AND ISSUES THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALREADY HAVING.
07:58:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
07:58:35PM HURTAK.
07:58:35PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:58:37PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
07:58:40PM MR. SHELBY.
07:58:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS GOING TO
07:58:45PM WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED, BUT THAT IS IN RELATION TO THE PRO
07:58:49PM PROPOSAL YOU HAVE IN ON FROM OF YOU WITH RELATION TO THE
07:58:52PM SALE AND CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL AS IS PROPOSED.
07:58:58PM THE CONCERN WHAT YOU MENTIONED --
07:59:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:59:01PM BECAUSE IT -- DUE TO CONSIDERATION TO THE POTENTIALLY
07:59:04PM ADVERSE EFFECTS ON ADJOINING AND NEARBY PROPERTIES AND
07:59:07PM AREAS.
07:59:07PM YES, THAT IS WHY SPECIFICALLY CHOSE THAT.
07:59:12PM AND -- YEAH, THAT'S -- SHELBY SHE WILL THANK YOU.
07:59:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:59:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:59:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
07:59:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
07:59:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
07:59:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
07:59:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:59:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
07:59:42PM >>CLERK: MOTION TO DENY CARRIED WITH VIERA, MANISCALCO,
07:59:49PM MIRANDA VOTING NO.
8:00:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE AB2-23-04.
8:00:05PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
8:00:08PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:00:10PM COUNCIL, THIS NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
8:00:13PM SALES FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3704 AND 3709 SOUTH DALE
8:00:19PM MABRY HIGHWAY.
8:00:20PM THE APPLICANT IS BIRDIE CLUB INDOOR GOLF FACILITY, LLC.
8:00:25PM THE REQUEST IS A SMALL VENUE CLASSIFICATION WITH BEER AND
8:00:30PM WINE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
8:00:33PM THE PROPOSED USE IS AN INDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITY, AND THE
8:00:37PM REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES WOULD BE FOR INDOOR
8:00:40PM ONLY, NO OUTDOOR AREA IS PROPOSED WITH THIS REQUEST, AND IT
8:00:43PM IS A TOTAL OF 2,642 SQUARE FEET.
8:00:49PM 42 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 30 SPACES ARE PROVIDED.
8:00:53PM AND THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE, SO THE SITE IS OUTLINED
8:00:58PM IN RED HERE.
8:01:00PM THIS IS SOUTH DALE MABRY TO ORIENT YOU ON THE MAP, AND THIS
8:01:04PM IS SEVILLA AND THIS IS VASCONIA AND THIS IS THE SITE THAT IS
8:01:09PM LOCATED HERE.
8:01:09PM WITHIN THE SITE ITSELF, I'LL SHOW YOU IN SOME SITE PHOTOS,
8:01:16PM THE APPLICANT, WHAT I'VE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT ON
8:01:19PM PAGE 2, HAS STATED THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING CIRCUMSTANCE
8:01:23PM THAT MAKES IT IMPRACTICAL TO PROVIDE A SIDEWALK ON THE SITE.
8:01:29PM NORMALLY WHEN YOU COME IN FOR DEVELOPMENT AND YOU PROVIDE,
8:01:33PM AND YOU PULL A PERMIT, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PUT A SIDEWALK ON
8:01:36PM THE SITE.
8:01:37PM SO I'LL SHOW YOU PHOTOS OF THE SOUTHERN END.
8:01:40PM THIS IS THAT PORTION OF THE SITE WHICH IS REQUESTED BY THE
8:01:45PM APPLICANT TO NOT PROVIDE A SIDEWALK FOR.
8:01:48PM IF IT IS COUNCIL'S DECISION TO APPROVE, THEN IT WOULD BE
8:01:52PM SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD ADD ON THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST
8:01:56PM AND SECOND READING.
8:01:57PM FIRST, LET ME DISCUSS THE SITE ITSELF AND WHAT'S SURROUNDING
8:02:03PM IT.
8:02:04PM THIS IS DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
8:02:05PM YOU SEE THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING THAT'S LOCATED ALONG
8:02:08PM DALE MABRY.
8:02:09PM YOU HAVE YOUR RESIDENTIAL.
8:02:10PM THAT'S FOR THE WEST ON THE SITE, AND THEN YOU HAVE
8:02:13PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-50 TO THE EAST ON THE EAST SIDE
8:02:17PM OF DALE MABRY.
8:02:18PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED.
8:02:23PM SO THIS IS DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
8:02:26PM THIS IS VASCONIA.
8:02:29PM THIS IS THE SITE WHICH IS A PART OF A CENTER.
8:02:37PM THIS SPACE IS ANOTHER UNIT AND THEN YOU WOULD ENTER THE SITE
8:02:42PM HERE ON VASCONIA.
8:02:43PM AGAIN, I'LL SHOW YOU THOSE PICTURES.
8:02:45PM AND THERE'S PARKING LOCATED ON THE EAST, WHICH IS THE FRONT
8:02:47PM OF THE SITE.
8:02:48PM SO THAT'S THE LOCATION ON SOUTH DALE MABRY.
8:02:57PM THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW.
8:02:58PM SO THIS SHOWS THAT ANGLE LOOKING SOUTH.
8:03:04PM THIS IS ON VASCONIA AND THIS IS THE BACK END OF THE PROPERTY
8:03:08PM OR THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, SO YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT
8:03:12PM THERE IS NO SIDEWALK THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS THERE.
8:03:15PM AND THIS IS A VIEW -- IF YOU'RE LOOKING WEST ON VASCONIA.
8:03:24PM SO THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE.
8:03:27PM AND THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE ON VASCONIA.
8:03:34PM THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SITE.
8:03:39PM AT THE CORNER OF VASCONIA AND THIS IS SOUTH DALE MABRY, AND
8:03:43PM THAT'S THE VIEW LOOKING SOUTH.
8:03:44PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON DALE MABRY.
8:03:54PM THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE ON THE CORNER OF SEVILLA.
8:03:57PM AND THEN THIS IS EAST OF THE SITE ACROSS DALE MABRY.
8:04:02PM THERE ARE FOUR WAIVERS REQUESTED.
8:04:10PM WITH THIS REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES AND THE DRC,
8:04:13PM STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS IT INCONSISTENT DUE
8:04:15PM TO THE WAIVERS ON THE SITE.
8:04:17PM THERE ARE CORRECTIONS TO BE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN
8:04:19PM FIRST AND SECOND READING, SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE TO APPROVE
8:04:23PM THE REQUEST.
8:04:24PM IN ADDITION TO THE CONDITION REGARDING THE SIDEWALK.
8:04:28PM AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
8:04:32PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
8:04:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
8:04:35PM PETITIONER?
8:04:38PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:04:44PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
8:04:45PM MY NAME IS COLIN RICE OF THE LAW FIRM OF OLDER LUNDY, JOINED
8:04:49PM BY MY COLLEAGUE LIZ KELLER, 1,000 WEST CASS STREET, TAMPA,
8:04:54PM FLORIDA, 33606.
8:04:55PM WE'RE JOINED TONIGHT BY ADRIENNE AND MARIA MARTINEZ, OWNERS
8:04:59PM OF BIRDIE CLUB, WHICH WILL BE SOUTH TAMPA'S FIRST INDOOR
8:05:03PM GOLF SIMULATION EXPERIENCE.
8:05:06PM WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
8:05:07PM WE THINK IT WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY.
8:05:10PM TO ORIENT YOU, AS LaCHONE HAD STATED, WE ARE DIRECT
8:05:15PM FRONTAGE ON SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY BETWEEN VASCONIA AND
8:05:20PM SEVILLA.
8:05:20PM THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS A SPECIAL USE 2 PERMIT FOR SMALL
8:05:28PM VENUE, BEER, BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES
8:05:31PM ONLY, NO PACKAGE SALES.
8:05:33PM THE PROPOSED USE IS PRIVATE RECREATION FACILITY INDOOR.
8:05:38PM YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE CODE THERE'S NOT REALLY A PRE-CODIFIED
8:05:42PM USE THAT TOTALLY FITS WITH THE USE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
8:05:45PM IT'S PRETTY UNIQUE.
8:05:46PM WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY LATER.
8:05:48PM THE INTERIOR SPACE IS ABOUT 2500 SQUARE FEET.
8:05:51PM I WANT YOU TO PICTURE THE HOTTEST, RAINIEST AFTERNOON IN
8:05:58PM TAMPA.
8:05:58PM THEN IMAGINE PLAYING 18 HOLES AT PEBBLE BEACH OR
8:06:01PM ST. ANDREW'S OR FIRESTONE IN A 72-DEGREE, BUGS, SUN BURN,
8:06:08PM LIGHTNING, TIME INVESTMENT.
8:06:09PM THIS IS BIRDIE CLUB.
8:06:11PM THE TRACK INDOOR GOLF SIMULATION TECHNOLOGY IN SOLITARY
8:06:15PM ALLOWS PLAYERS TO CHOOSE FROM OVER 200 COURSES WORLDWIDE.
8:06:19PM SPYGLASS HILL, CASA DE CAMPO IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, AND
8:06:23PM HAWKTREE CLUB IN NORTH DAKOTA.
8:06:24PM SO I WANT TO STRESS THAT THIS IS NOT A BAR.
8:06:29PM AGAIN, NO PACKAGE SALES.
8:06:30PM NO LIQUOR AT ALL.
8:06:31PM NO OUTDOOR ACTIVITY.
8:06:33PM NO OUTDOOR WET ZONE SPACE, NO AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
8:06:37PM THIS IS A GOLF EXPERIENCE.
8:06:38PM THE BEER AND WINE SALES ARE ACCESSORY TO THAT EXPERIENCE.
8:06:42PM HERE IS A CONCEPTUAL INTERIOR LAYOUT.
8:06:46PM THERE WILL BE THREE HITTING BAYS.
8:06:48PM THE MAJORITY OF THE INTERIOR SPACE WILL BE FOR PROJECTILES,
8:06:53PM SO YOU CAN'T FIT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE.
8:06:55PM MAXIMUM FOUR PLAYERS PER BAY.
8:06:58PM PUTTING TO PRACTICE YOUR SHORT GAME.
8:07:04PM INDOOR ENVIRONMENT TO REPLICATE A DAY OF GOLF.
8:07:07PM NOBODY CAN JUST WALK IN HERE AND BUY A BEER.
8:07:10PM YOU'VE GOT TO BE RENTING SPACE AT A HITTING BAY BEFORE THE
8:07:13PM ALCOHOL SALES COME INTO PLAY.
8:07:15PM AGAIN, THE OWNERS, THEY ARE NEIGHBORS.
8:07:20PM THEY HAVE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER THEY INTEND TO TEACH GOLF
8:07:23PM HERE.
8:07:23PM THEY WILL BE HOSTING KIDS' CLINICS.
8:07:25PM THE RATES WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE AFFORDABLE, ESPECIALLY
8:07:29PM FOR KIDS IN OFF-PEAK HOURS, GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO LEARN THE
8:07:33PM GAME.
8:07:33PM WE HAVE ONE PARTY THAT'S RATHER EXCITED ABOUT THIS IS THE
8:07:39PM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
8:07:43PM I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW POINTS FROM THIS LETTER OF SUPPORT
8:07:46PM ENDORSED BY BOTH THE WOMEN'S AND MEN'S GOLF TEAMS AND THE
8:07:50PM ATHLETIC DIRECTOR.
8:07:51PM UT AS WE KNOW IS AN URBAN CAMPUS WHICH GIVES IT A LOT OF
8:07:54PM TERRIFIC ADVANTAGES FOR STUDENTS, BUT IT'S A COMPETITIVE AND
8:07:57PM LOGISTIC DISADVANTAGE WHEN RECRUITING AND COMPETING FOR A
8:08:00PM SPORT LIKE GOLF.
8:08:01PM THERE JUST AREN'T CLOSE-BY FACILITIES FOR WHICH THE PLAYERS
8:08:04PM CAN TRAIN.
8:08:07PM THIS CHANGES THAT.
8:08:07PM IT'S WITHIN 10 MINUTES OF UT, AND IT'S A RAIN-OR-SHINE
8:08:12PM OPTION.
8:08:12PM IT'S A RELIABLE SPACE FOR THESE PLAYERS TO COME PRACTICE AND
8:08:16PM IMPROVE THEIR GAME.
8:08:17PM THEY ARE THRILLED ABOUT IT.
8:08:18PM WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE THEIR SUPPORT.
8:08:20PM IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A REALLY OLD SITE.
8:08:25PM THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1948, 75 YEARS OLD.
8:08:28PM THIS IS AN AERIAL FROM 1957 SHOWING YOU THAT THE BUILDING
8:08:31PM FOOTPRINT IS IDENTICAL TODAY.
8:08:33PM SO WITH THAT, WE NEED SOME HELP WITH A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF
8:08:40PM FROM THE STRICTURES OF THE CODE.
8:08:42PM AS LaCHONE HAD MENTIONED, ONE ITEM FOR WHICH WE'LL BE
8:08:47PM REQUESTING YOUR SUPPORT IS A FINDING THAT THE SIDEWALK ON
8:08:49PM VASCONIA IS IMPRACTICAL AND THE ABILITY TO PAY IN LIEU
8:08:55PM INSTEAD OF INSTALLATION OF THE SIDEWALK.
8:08:57PM IN SHORT, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT SIDEWALK INSTALLATIONS IN THE
8:09:00PM SURROUNDING AREA, INCLUDE SURROUNDING THE SITE.
8:09:03PM THERE ARE WALK PATHS THAT ABUT THE BUILDING AND THERE ARE
8:09:05PM TECO INSTALLATIONS ON THAT PART OF VASCONIA THAT MAKE THE
8:09:09PM INSTALLATION PRACTICAL.
8:09:11PM HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, SHOW VISUALS IF ANY ARISE.
8:09:15PM WITH RESPECT TO WAIVERS, WE ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER OF
8:09:17PM PARKING FROM 42 TO 30.
8:09:19PM IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING
8:09:21PM PHYSICALLY IN THE EXTERIOR OF THE SPACE.
8:09:24PM WE'RE NOT TOUCHING ANY OF THE 30 SPACES.
8:09:29PM THE REASON WE'RE UNDER FULL SITE PARKING REVIEW IS THIS IS A
8:09:32PM VERY, VERY DE MINIMIS INCREASE IN DENSITY THAT TRIGGERS FULL
8:09:35PM SITE REVIEW.
8:09:36PM AGAIN, THIS IS AN OLD SPACE.
8:09:38PM TAMPA GREW UP AROUND IT.
8:09:39PM THAT SAID, OUR SPACE CALCULATED AT FIVE SPACES PER THOUSAND
8:09:45PM VERSUS THE RETAIL OF FOUR SPACES PER THOUSAND, IT'S REALLY
8:09:47PM ABOUT A TWO-SPACE INCREASE FOR OUR SITE.
8:09:50PM I WANT TO REITERATE THAT BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED NUMBER OF
8:09:55PM HITTING BAYS IN THE PUTTING AREA, WE REALLY WILL NOT HAVE
8:09:59PM MORE THAN 15 PATRONS INSIDE AT ONE TIME.
8:10:02PM THE CODE DOES ALSO ALLOW IN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES
8:10:08PM ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVERS FOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR OLDER
8:10:11PM BUILDINGS.
8:10:12PM THERE IS A RETAIL -- RATHER, A THERAPY LOCATION WITHIN THE
8:10:16PM COMPLEX THAT QUALIFIES IT AS MEDICAL AND THEREFORE THIS
8:10:19PM SPECIFIC CODE PROVISION ISN'T ALLOWABLE.
8:10:21PM BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE SPIRIT OF THE CODE IS TO ADDRESS
8:10:24PM UNIQUE SITUATIONS WITH OLDER SITES.
8:10:26PM THE SECOND WAIVER IS TO ALLOW MANEUVERING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
8:10:28PM FOR THE SPACES ON DALE MABRY.
8:10:30PM AGAIN, THIS IS A 75-YEAR-OLD SITE.
8:10:32PM THE SPACES HAVE BEEN PRESENT.
8:10:36PM F.D.O.T. HAS NOT EXPRESSED ANY CONCERN ABOUT THIS.
8:10:38PM THERE'S REALLY A NEGLIGIBLE INCREASE IN TRIP GENERATION.
8:10:41PM THIRD IS TO REDUCE THE DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL USES FROM
8:10:46PM 250 TO 78 FEET.
8:10:47PM THIS FRONTS DALE MABRY BUT THE IMMEDIATE ZONING DISTRICT TO
8:10:50PM THE WEST IS RESIDENTIAL.
8:10:51PM LASTLY, THERE WAS A MARATHON GAS STATION TO THE NORTH ON
8:10:53PM THIS BLOCK.
8:10:54PM THAT'S A REDUCTION TO 20 FEET.
8:10:56PM THEY HAVE AN APPROVAL FOR BEER AND WINE OFF PREMISES ONLY.
8:11:01PM THEY ARE NOT RELATED USES.
8:11:03PM THEIR PROXIMITY WILL NOT CREATE ADVERSE IMPACTS.
8:11:05PM WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY PRODUCTIVE E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE WITH
8:11:10PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:11:11PM WE HELD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
8:11:12PM YOU CAN SEE OUR BIRDIE CLUB GEAR AND SNACKS.
8:11:16PM NOBODY ATTENDED, UNFORTUNATELY.
8:11:18PM BUT WE GOT NICE HEADWAY VIA E-MAIL.
8:11:20PM I'M NOT AWARE OF OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THIS
8:11:24PM PROPOSAL.
8:11:24PM WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL TO THEM FOR THEIR ENGAGEMENT.
8:11:27PM THAT HELPS OUR REQUEST TO BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE
8:11:31PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:11:32PM TO CONCLUDE, WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THIS EXPERIENCE TO SOUTH
8:11:35PM TAMPA.
8:11:35PM KNOW THAT THE MARGINS FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS MODEL ARE
8:11:39PM NOT HIGH.
8:11:39PM MODERATE BEER AND WINE SALES REALLY ARE THE SUPPLEMENT TO
8:11:42PM HELP THIS BUSINESS THRIVE.
8:11:44PM THIS IS THE MARTINEZ'S FIRST SMALL BUSINESS VENTURE.
8:11:48PM CERTAINLY I'M ROOTING FOR THEM.
8:11:49PM WITH THAT, I WILL CONCLUDE.
8:11:52PM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WE'LL SUBMIT THESE
8:11:55PM SLIDES INTO THE RECORD.
8:11:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DIDN'T QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
8:11:58PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:12:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO WANT TO SEE THE VISUALS ABOUT SIDEWALKS
8:12:05PM BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC REALLY WANTS TO KNOW
8:12:09PM ABOUT.
8:12:20PM >> WE PREPARED A VISUAL HERE.
8:12:22PM THE IMAGE TO THE RIGHT IS THE ACTUAL BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
8:12:25PM THE SOUTHERN END OF IT HAS WALKING PATHS RIGHT UP ALONG THE
8:12:29PM BUILDING.
8:12:29PM THE MIDDLE PHOTOGRAPH IS THE NORTH END OF THAT BLOCK.
8:12:33PM THERE ARE SIDEWALKS EXTENDING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON
8:12:36PM SEVILLA.
8:12:38PM THERE ARE SIDEWALKS DIRECTLY ON DALE MABRY.
8:12:41PM THE IMAGE TO THE LEFT IS THE TECO INSTALLATIONS ALONG
8:12:44PM VASCONIA THAT ARE PROPOSING A CHALLENGE TO THE SIDEWALK
8:12:47PM INSTALLATION.
8:12:48PM WE JUST THINK THAT THE FUNDS COULD BE REALLOCATED FOR A
8:12:51PM SENSIBLE SIDEWALK ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.
8:12:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
8:12:59PM SO THE ONLY SIDEWALK YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT IN IS LIKE A
8:13:04PM SIX-FOOT PIECE OF SIDEWALK?
8:13:08PM IS THAT HOW LARGE THE SIDEWALK SPACE?
8:13:13PM >> FROM I UNDERSTAND IT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE SOUTH, A FIVE
8:13:16PM FOOT.
8:13:17PM THE REQUEST IN CODE, WHEN YOU HAVE AN S-2 CHANGE OF USE IS
8:13:20PM PUT IN A FIVE-FOOT SIDEWALK.
8:13:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
8:13:23PM I MEAN, WHAT IS THE -- THAT WOULD BE THE WIDTH, BUT WHAT IS
8:13:27PM THE LENGTH?
8:13:28PM >> THE LENGTH.
8:13:29PM OH, BOY.
8:13:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MEAN, WOULD IT BE FROM THAT 25-MILE AN HOUR
8:13:35PM SIGN TO THE DRIVEWAY?
8:13:38PM >> NO, IT WOULD GO ALL THE WAY TO DALE MABRY.
8:13:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU CAN'T GO TO DALE
8:13:47PM MABRY BECAUSE THERE'S PARKING.
8:13:51PM >> RIGHT.
8:13:52PM THOSE ARE NOT COUNTED SPACES, NO.
8:13:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT IT'S ALREADY PAVED.
8:13:56PM >> IT'S PAVED, THAT'S RIGHT.
8:13:57PM THEY WOULD REQUIRE PULLING UP THAT PAVEMENT, PUTTING IN A
8:14:01PM COMPACTION.
8:14:02PM I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT ENGINEERING TERM BUT A CERTAIN
8:14:05PM NEW IMPROVED SPACE FOR THE SIDEWALK.
8:14:07PM IT WOULD BE A CONCRETE INSTALLATION.
8:14:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
8:14:14PM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM
8:14:24PM NUMBER 8, FILE AB2-23-04?
8:14:31PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
8:14:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
8:14:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
8:14:35PM MANISCALCO.
8:14:36PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:14:38PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8:14:39PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
8:14:41PM MOTION CARRIES.
8:14:42PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:14:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:14:44PM I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
8:14:47PM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
8:14:50PM S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON
8:14:53PM PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT
8:14:56PM OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT
8:14:59PM 3407 AND 3409 SOUTH DALE MABRY, HIGHWAY, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS
8:15:04PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL
8:15:06PM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
8:15:10PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
8:15:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN --
8:15:15PM MS. JOHNSON VELEZ.
8:15:16PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
8:15:20PM SIR, IF YOUR FINDING THAT THE SIDEWALK IS NOT PRACTICAL TO
8:15:23PM INSTALL AT THIS LOCATION DUE TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES DESCRIBED
8:15:26PM BY THE APPLICANT, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALSO INCLUDE THAT
8:15:30PM WITH YOUR MOTION.
8:15:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO INCLUDED IN MY MOTION IS EXACTLY AS
8:15:36PM WHAT WAS DESCRIBED REGARDING THE SIDEWALK, IF THAT'S OKAY
8:15:41PM WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AND THE SECONDER OF THE MOTION.
8:15:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, WHAT YOU'RE
8:15:47PM FINDING, IT IS NOT PRACTICABLE, I GUESS IS THE WORD, AND IT
8:15:52PM WOULD BE REPLACED WITH AN IN LIEU OF FEE.
8:15:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS CORRECT.
8:15:56PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: AND A NOTE ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN
8:15:58PM BETWEEN TONIGHT AND SECOND READING.
8:16:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REGARDING THAT SITUATION, BETWEEN NOW
8:16:03PM AND SECOND READING, WE ADD THIS AS AN ADDITION, A NOTE ON
8:16:08PM THE SITE PLAN SO IT'S THERE WRITTEN IN STONE.
8:16:11PM THAT'S THE MOTION.
8:16:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGREEABLE, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
8:16:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:16:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
8:16:18PM MANISCALCO.
8:16:19PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:16:20PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:16:21PM SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL VOTE.
8:16:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
8:16:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:16:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:16:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:16:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:16:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:16:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
8:16:39PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8:16:41PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 20th,
8:16:46PM 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
8:16:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
8:16:50PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, FILE AB2-23-03.
8:16:59PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:17:02PM THIS NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES.
8:17:05PM THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5017 EAST WASHINGTON
8:17:09PM STREET.
8:17:11PM THE APPLICANT IS EGYPT SHRINE HOLDING CORPORATION
8:17:14PM INCORPORATED.
8:17:15PM AND THE REQUEST IS FOR A LARGE VENUE CLASSIFICATION BEER AND
8:17:19PM WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
8:17:23PM THIS SITE CURRENTLY HAS APPROVAL FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
8:17:26PM SALES.
8:17:27PM THE CLASSIFICATION CURRENTLY IS A SMALL VENUE WITH BEER,
8:17:30PM WINE, LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY SALES.
8:17:33PM THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU WOULD ADD ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SPACE
8:17:37PM TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED.
8:17:39PM SO CURRENTLY THEY ARE APPROVED FOR 26,957 SQUARE FEET.
8:17:43PM AND THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU WOULD ALLOW A TOTAL OF 33,004
8:17:49PM SQUARE FEET OF AB SALES WITH 7,753 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR
8:17:56PM SPACE.
8:17:56PM AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED.
8:18:01PM SO THIS IS WASHINGTON STREET.
8:18:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S NOT UP ON OUR SCREENS.
8:18:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ACTIVATE THE SCREENS, PLEASE.
8:18:12PM OUR SCREENS, SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S BEING PROJECTED.
8:18:15PM IT'S COMPLETELY BLANK OVER HERE.
8:18:32PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE MY SCREEN?
8:18:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY HAD A POWER FAILURE, SO OUR
8:18:37PM MONITORS ARE OFF.
8:18:38PM IS IT ALL RIGHT IF WE TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS?
8:19:19PM IT'S ON, BUT IT'S JUST SHOWING MY FACE.
8:19:24PM YEAH, WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A BIT.
8:19:25PM LET'S DO A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
8:19:27PM THANK YOU.
8:19:28PM UNTIL THEY FIX THAT.
8:19:28PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
8:19:30PM [RECESS]
8:32:27PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
8:32:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
8:32:30PM ROLL CALL.
8:32:34PM >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?
8:32:35PM VIERA?
8:32:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
8:32:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
8:32:40PM >> HURTAK?
8:32:41PM GUDES?
8:32:41PM MIRANDA?
8:32:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
8:32:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
8:32:46PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A EQUAL QUORUM.
8:32:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:32:48PM MS. DOCK, I BELIEVE YOU WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR --
8:32:54PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU.
8:32:54PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:32:56PM THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF AB 2-23-03, THE REQUEST IS FOR
8:33:03PM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE, BEER, WINE, LIQUOR.
8:33:08PM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
8:33:09PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
8:33:12PM WASHINGTON STREET IS LOCATED HERE.
8:33:17PM THIS IS THE ENTRY TO THE SITE.
8:33:19PM THIS IS THE SITE, THE BUILDING WHICH IS OUTLINED.
8:33:25PM THIS IS THE OUTDOOR AB SALES AREA, WHICH IS IN THE DARK
8:33:28PM GRAY, AND THEN THE INDOOR AREA IS LOCATED HERE.
8:33:31PM THIS IS THE AREA OF EXPANSION.
8:33:33PM AND THIS IS THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST TODAY, TO ADD THAT
8:33:36PM ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SPACE.
8:33:38PM AND I HAVE AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.
8:33:42PM SO THIS MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU.
8:33:44PM THIS WAS APPROVED FOR ALCOHOL IN 2021.
8:33:47PM SO THIS SITE WAS BEFORE COUNCIL.
8:33:51PM BUT THIS IS THE SITE THAT IS IDENTIFIED HERE IN RED.
8:33:56PM IT'S NOT THAT FAR OUT.
8:33:59PM I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
8:34:01PM THIS IS WASHINGTON STREET.
8:34:03PM THIS IS 50th STREET.
8:34:05PM SO YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU HAVE THE COMMERCIAL ZONING THAT
8:34:09PM EXISTS THERE.
8:34:10PM A LOT OF THIS LAND IS VACANT.
8:34:13PM THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF REZONINGS AT THE END OF
8:34:16PM WASHINGTON STREET NEAR THE END HERE AND ONE COMING BEFORE
8:34:20PM YOU IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
8:34:21PM BUT THAT'S THE SURROUNDING AREA.
8:34:23PM AND I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
8:34:27PM SO WE'LL START AT 50th AND WORK OUR WAY OVER.
8:34:29PM SO THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE ON 50th AT THE CORNER OF THE
8:34:34PM GAS STATION, AND THIS IS MOVING TOWARDS THE SITE.
8:34:37PM THAT IS THE VACANT LOT.
8:34:39PM THIS IS THE VIEW LOOKING EAST ON WASHINGTON.
8:34:44PM THE LOT IS TO THE RIGHT IN THIS PICTURE.
8:34:47PM THIS IS THE SITE ON WASHINGTON, THE ENTRY OF THE SITE, WITH
8:34:53PM ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE.
8:34:56PM THIS IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING WEST ON WASHINGTON, AND THEN THIS
8:35:01PM IS NORTH OF THE SITE, THE VACANT PARCEL.
8:35:06PM DRC STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST.
8:35:09PM FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
8:35:10PM THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED TO BE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN
8:35:13PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
8:35:15PM AND, ALSO, THERE IS ONE WAIVER THAT IS REQUESTED, AND THAT
8:35:19PM IS TO REDUCE THE PARKING SPACES FROM 189 SPACES TO 158
8:35:25PM SPACES.
8:35:26PM AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
8:35:28PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
8:35:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOCK?
8:35:33PM THANK YOU.
8:35:34PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:35:39PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
8:35:40PM JAIME MAIER, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, 101 EAST KENNEDY
8:35:43PM BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700.
8:35:45PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
8:35:46PM I HAVE A PowerPoint.
8:35:48PM I DON'T KNOW IF THE SYSTEMS ARE WORKING OR NOT, SO I DO HAVE
8:35:50PM A PAPER VERSION.
8:35:51PM IT'S KIND OF DARK, THOUGH, WHEN IT IS SHOWN.
8:35:54PM IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO LOAD THIS OR SHOULD I USE THE
8:35:57PM PAPER?
8:35:57PM I'LL USE THE PAPER.
8:36:03PM IT'S THREE SLIDES.
8:36:04PM ONE IS A HEADER SLIDE.
8:36:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I DO NEED TO ASK THIS QUESTION.
8:36:09PM YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN?
8:36:11PM >> YES, I HAVE.
8:36:12PM IN THE FIRST ROUND.
8:36:13PM WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY BEFORE YOU IS UPDATED AB APPROVAL AS
8:36:18PM MS. DOCK EXPLAINED.
8:36:20PM THIS IS THE EGYPT SHRINERS HEADQUARTERS, FLAGSHIP BUILDING.
8:36:23PM IT'S RELATIVELY NEW.
8:36:24PM IT IS THEIR NEWER SITE.
8:36:26PM THEY HAD TO LEAVE THEIR OLD SITE IN 2016.
8:36:30PM IT WAS PERMITTED AND CONSTRUCTED DURING PEAK COVID.
8:36:33PM THEY RECEIVED THE AB APPROVAL FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE AND THE
8:36:38PM EXISTING SMALLER PATIO BACK IN 2021, AND SO THEY NOW HAVE A
8:36:44PM BUILDING PERMIT IN HAND TO EXPAND THE PATIO, AS YOU SAW,
8:36:47PM THIS AERIAL IS, OF COURSE, WITHOUT THE PATIO THAT WILL BE
8:36:50PM CONSTRUCTED.
8:36:51PM BUT THEY HAVE THAT BUILDING PERMIT IN HAND AND THIS UPDATED
8:36:55PM AB REQUEST IS TO REFLECT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT PATIO.
8:36:59PM SO IN THE STAFF REPORT, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION FINDS IT
8:37:07PM CONSISTENT FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, BUT TRANSPORTATION
8:37:09PM STAFF, OF COURSE, HAS AN INCONSISTENCY FINDING AS THEY DO
8:37:12PM WHENEVER WE ASK FOR A PARKING WAIVER.
8:37:14PM THE WAIVER IS A 16.4% REDUCTION, WHICH IF I GO BACK TO THE
8:37:22PM PARKING LOT THAT THEY HAVE, IT'S A SINGLE USE SITE.
8:37:27PM IT IS A MASSIVE GATED PRIVATE PARKING LOT.
8:37:31PM THE SITE IS RELATIVELY ISOLATED.
8:37:33PM WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY DISTANCE SEPARATION WAIVERS.
8:37:35PM WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BEFORE EITHER FOR OTHER USES.
8:37:41PM THE OCCUPANCY LOAD THAT IS GENERATED BY THE PATIO IS BASED
8:37:44PM ON THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO OF EVERYBODY SHOULDER TO SHOULDER
8:37:47PM ON THE PATIO AND THE ENTIRE INTERIOR IS FULL AS WELL.
8:37:50PM SO GIVEN THAT AND GIVEN THE AMPLE PARKING THAT THEY DO HAVE,
8:37:54PM WE FIND THAT WAIVER TO BE A PRETTY SMALL JUSTIFIABLE
8:37:58PM REQUEST, AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF
8:38:01PM THIS UPDATED AB PERMIT, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNLESS THERE
8:38:04PM ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
8:38:05PM THANK YOU.
8:38:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
8:38:07PM SEEING NONE IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
8:38:12PM TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9?
8:38:13PM FILE AB 2-23-03.
8:38:18PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
8:38:19PM >> SECOND.
8:38:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
8:38:22PM GUDES.
8:38:22PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:38:24PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
8:38:25PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
8:38:25PM MOTION PASSES.
8:38:27PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:38:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST READ ALL THE NUMBERS, SO --
8:38:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HEY, NO PROBLEM.
8:38:38PM FILE NUMBER AB2---
8:38:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ
8:38:42PM THIS.
8:38:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FILE AB 2-23-03, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
8:38:48PM FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A
8:38:50PM SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE
8:38:53PM VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE
8:38:56PM SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER,
8:39:00PM WINE, AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND
8:39:03PM LOCATED AT 5017 EAST WASHINGTON STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS
8:39:06PM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING THAT ALL
8:39:09PM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED;
8:39:12PM REPEALING ORDINANCE 2021-24, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
8:39:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
8:39:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION THAT'S BEEN MADE BY
8:39:19PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
8:39:20PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
8:39:23PM IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
8:39:24PM ROLL CALL.
8:39:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
8:39:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
8:39:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
8:39:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
8:39:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
8:39:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
8:39:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
8:39:40PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
8:39:44PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 20th,
8:39:47PM 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
8:39:50PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:39:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, FILE REZ-22-132,
8:39:59PM MS. FEELEY.
8:40:00PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
8:40:02PM I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
8:40:05PM I THINK THERE ARE SOME OTHERS IN THE CHAMBERS THAT HAVE NOT.
8:40:07PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE START 10 AND 11.
8:40:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE RISE, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO THAT
8:40:13PM YOU MAY BE SWORN IN.
8:40:17PM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
8:40:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
8:40:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:40:27PM ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
8:40:30PM MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITY.
8:40:30PM WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO TAKE THE NEXT STEPS IN THE ROME YARD
8:40:34PM DEVELOPMENT AND FURTHER THE PARTIES' OBLIGATIONS AS
8:40:38PM SPECIFIED IN THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
8:40:40PM THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON
8:40:44PM APRIL 21st OF 2022, AND IT REQUIRES BOTH A REZONING AND A
8:40:49PM MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE AND RIVERWALK AGREEMENT.
8:40:52PM THE REZONING IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AS ITEM 10, AND THAT
8:40:55PM INFRASTRUCTURE AGREEMENT IS ITEM 11.
8:40:57PM THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT IS A CONTRACT THAT IMPOSES
8:41:03PM MUTUAL RESPONSIBILITY AND OBLIGATION ON BOTH THE CITY AND ON
8:41:08PM RUDG WHO IS HERE TONIGHT.
8:41:11PM WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THE ITEMS AND WILL BE
8:41:14PM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
8:41:15PM WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MS. DOCK, THE
8:41:18PM ZONING SUPERVISOR FOR THE PRESENTATION OF ITEM 10.
8:41:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:41:27PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:41:29PM ITEM 10 IS REZ-22-132.
8:41:34PM THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 2609 NORTH ROME AVENUE
8:41:38PM AND 2301 NORTH OREGON AVENUE.
8:41:41PM THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY JAKE CREMER.
8:41:44PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM NMU 35
8:41:48PM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE TO PD TO ALLOW FOR ALL NMU 35 USES,
8:41:53PM RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS, BUSINESS AND VOCATIONAL
8:41:57PM SCHOOL USES ON-SITE.
8:41:58PM SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DANNY WITH THE PLANNING
8:42:02PM COMMISSION AND I'LL COME BACK AND GIVE MY REPORT.
8:42:04PM THANK YOU.
8:42:15PM >>DANNY COLLINS: GOOD EVENING.
8:42:17PM DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
8:42:19PM I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
8:42:20PM THIS REZONING IS WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
8:42:23PM AND MORE SPECIFICALLY IT'S IN THE WEST RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD.
8:42:27PM THE MARTIN LUTHER KING RECREATION COMPLEX IS THE CLOSEST
8:42:31PM PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF
8:42:34PM THE SITE.
8:42:35PM THERE'S TRANSIT AVAILABLE IN THE AREA.
8:42:38PM HART ROUTE 7 SERVES THE SUBJECT SITE WITH THE STOP LOCATED
8:42:41PM AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST MAIN STREET AND NORTH BOULEVARD.
8:42:45PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON A LEVEL A EVACUATION ZONE AND
8:42:50PM PORTIONS ARE WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
8:42:53PM HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING
8:43:00PM PROPERTIES.
8:43:00PM THE SUBJECT SITES ARE OUTLINED IN PURPLE.
8:43:02PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS GENERALLY EAST OF ROME SOUTH OF COLUMBUS
8:43:07PM AND NORTH OF SPRUCE STREET.
8:43:11PM THIS IS STEWART MIDDLE SCHOOL RIGHT HERE.
8:43:14PM THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN PROXIMITY
8:43:18PM OF THE SUBJECT SITE, PRIMARILY TO THE SOUTH.
8:43:23PM TO THE WEST OF ROME ARE PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
8:43:29PM HOUSES AND RICK'S ON THE RIVER FOR REFERENCE IS HERE.
8:43:35PM HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
8:43:38PM THE SUBJECT SITES, ALL THREE ARE RECOGNIZED UNDER THE
8:43:45PM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
8:43:49PM THAT DESIGNATION ENCOURAGES A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
8:43:53PM AND ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT UP TO 1.5 F.A.R. FOR UP TO 35
8:43:58PM DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
8:44:00PM DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH IS THE DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING
8:44:04PM RECREATION COMPLEX, WHICH IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE RECREATION
8:44:08PM OPEN SPACE DESIGNATION.
8:44:09PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION IS PREDOMINANTLY
8:44:16PM FOUND EAST OF ROME AVENUE.
8:44:17PM THIS IS STEWART MIDDLE, WHICH IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE
8:44:21PM PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC DESIGNATION.
8:44:23PM DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS LAND RECOGNIZED
8:44:26PM UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 35 DESIGNATION, THOUGH PREDOMINANTLY
8:44:29PM THOSE ARE MOSTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
8:44:31PM STATED SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WEST OF THE HILLSBOROUGH
8:44:38PM RIVER, WHICH HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS AN AREA APPROPRIATE FOR
8:44:42PM MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
8:44:43PM AND THOSE ARE UNDER LAND USE POLICIES 1.1.1, 3.4.2 AND
8:44:50PM 3.5.2.
8:44:51PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEEKS TO PROVIDE RESIDENTIAL
8:44:54PM DEVELOPMENT NEAR EMPLOYMENT AND PUBLIC TRANSIT OPTIONS
8:44:56PM CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPACT CITY FORM STRATEGY.
8:44:59PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS PROXIMITY TO THE CENTRAL BUSINESS
8:45:02PM DISTRICT WITH ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
8:45:05PM THE PROPOSED MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE HOUSING AND
8:45:08PM RETAIL OPTIONS TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S GROWING
8:45:13PM POPULATION ON A VACANT SITE CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY
8:45:15PM DIRECTION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
8:45:16PM THE CITY OF TAMPA DEVELOPED A NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE FUTURE
8:45:21PM LAND USE CATEGORY TO IMPLEMENT THE VISIONS OUTLINED IN THE
8:45:24PM WEST RIVERFRONT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
8:45:26PM THE CATEGORIES ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIFAMILY
8:45:29PM RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.
8:45:31PM HOWEVER, THE SITE PLAN INCLUDES A REFERENCE TO SCHOOL TRADE.
8:45:34PM PER SECTION 27-156 UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THIS IS
8:45:39PM CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USE.
8:45:44PM NMU 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE CI
8:45:48PM USES.
8:45:49PM AFTER THE ISSUE WAS RAISED TO THE CITY AND THE AUTHORIZED
8:45:52PM AGENT FOR THE REZONING, AUTHORIZED AGENT AGREED VIA E-MAIL
8:45:55PM ON FEBRUARY 23rd, 2023, TO REMOVE SCHOOL TRADE FROM THE
8:45:59PM PROPOSED SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
8:46:02PM THE CONSISTENCY FINDING FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS
8:46:04PM CONTINGENT ON THIS CHANGE OCCURRING BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
8:46:07PM READINGS AS CI USES ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING
8:46:11PM FUTURE LAND USE AS SUBMITTED.
8:46:13PM THOUGH THE SITE PLAN LACKS DETAIL, THE APPLICANT HAS
8:46:16PM PROVIDED A DESIGN BOOK THAT WILL GUIDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF
8:46:19PM THE SIDE.
8:46:19PM THE DESIGN BOOK PROPOSES TOWNHOMES ORIENTED ALONG ROME
8:46:22PM AVENUE AND HIGHER INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES
8:46:26PM INTERNAL TO THE SITE.
8:46:27PM THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WILL
8:46:30PM PROVIDE SENSITIVITY TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
8:46:33PM RESIDENTIAL USES ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF ROME AVENUE.
8:46:36PM THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CURRENTLY ONLY ALLOWS A
8:46:40PM MAXIMUM OF 1.5 F.A.R. FOR DEVELOPMENT IN NMU 35 DESIGNATION
8:46:45PM TO ALLOW GREATER FLEXIBILITY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN
8:46:47PM COORDINATION WITH THE CITY HAS SUBMITTED A TEXT AMENDMENT TO
8:46:50PM ALLOW AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONUS IN THE WEST RIVER AREA.
8:46:55PM SINCE THIS REZONING WILL BE HEARD BY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
8:46:58PM BEFORE THE PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT IS
8:47:02PM ADOPTED, THE APPLICANT HAS INCLUDED LANGUAGE UNDER DESIGN
8:47:06PM GUIDELINES A ENTITLEMENTS ON PAGE 3, WHICH WILL ALLOW
8:47:09PM FLEXIBILITY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE AS THE PROPOSED
8:47:13PM AMENDMENT WORKS THROUGH THE PROCESS.
8:47:14PM THE PD MAY EVENTUALLY EXCEED THE 1.5 F.A.R. IN THE TEXT
8:47:20PM AMENDMENT, IF THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS APPROVED.
8:47:22PM OVERALL, THE PROPOSED PD WILL IMPLEMENT THE OVERALL VISION
8:47:25PM OUTLINED IN THE WEST RIVER REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
8:47:27PM REZONING WILL PROVIDE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT PROVIDES
8:47:30PM AN INDOOR CONNECTED GRID OF STREETS, SUPPORTING WALKING AND
8:47:33PM TRANSIT.
8:47:34PM WHILE A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE
8:47:36PM COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, POLICY 1.1.4 STATES THAT IF ANY
8:47:40PM PORTION OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS -- BUILDING
8:47:44PM FOOTPRINT IS IN COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, THE ENTIRE PARCEL
8:47:47PM SHALL BE CONSIDERED IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
8:47:50PM PROPOSED PD DOES NOT PROVIDE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS AND PC
8:47:53PM STAFF UNDERSTANDS MORE DETAIL WOULD BE PROVIDED DURING THE
8:47:55PM INCREMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS.
8:47:57PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REQUESTS THAT A NOTE BE ADDED TO
8:47:59PM THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING STATING THAT
8:48:01PM ANY SHELTER SPACE MITIGATION CONSISTENT WITH CM POLICY 1.2.2
8:48:05PM WILL BE EVALUATED AT THE TIME OF INCREMENTAL REVIEW.
8:48:08PM TO REITERATE, THE FOLLOWING CHANGES THAT ARE REQUIRED
8:48:11PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE
8:48:13PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NUMBER ONE, REMOVE THE SCHOOL TRADE FROM
8:48:16PM THE LIST OF ALLOWABLE USES, AND, NUMBER TWO, PROVIDE A NOTE
8:48:21PM STATING ANY SHELTER SPACE MITIGATION CONSISTENT WITH CM
8:48:24PM POLICY 1.2.2 WILL BE EVALUATED DURING THE INCREMENTAL REVIEW
8:48:28PM PROCESS.
8:48:28PM BASED ON THESE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
8:48:32PM FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND
8:48:35PM POLICIES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
8:48:38PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
8:48:39PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
8:48:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
8:48:41PM THANK YOU.
8:48:49PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:48:50PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
8:48:52PM AND I'LL PRESENT THE REZONING PORTION OF THE REQUEST.
8:48:55PM THE PD REQUEST BEFORE YOU CONTAINS TWO PARCELS.
8:49:01PM THOSE TWO PARCELS TOTAL 810,033 SQUARE FEET.
8:49:07PM SO WHAT IS CURRENTLY THE SITE, WHICH IS VACANT NOW, WHAT HAS
8:49:11PM HISTORICALLY BEEN ON THE SITE OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS IS A
8:49:17PM CITY, THE WASTEWATER, AND THE WATER DEPARTMENT, THE
8:49:19PM MAINTENANCE FACILITY WAS LOCATED ON THIS SITE.
8:49:21PM SO CURRENTLY IT IS VACANT, BUT THAT RESIDED ON THAT SITE FOR
8:49:26PM YEARS.
8:49:26PM SO THE PD SITE PLAN SUBMITTED, IT IDENTIFIES THE PROJECT
8:49:30PM BOUNDARY, WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
8:49:33PM IT'S EASIER TO SHOW YOU THIS AERIAL.
8:49:35PM THE PARCEL ONE IS OUTLINED AND PARCEL TWO IDENTIFIED, THEY
8:49:41PM ARE OUTLINED IN RED ON THIS SITE PLAN.
8:49:44PM SO IT WILL ALLOW FOR A SET OF ENTITLEMENTS IN THIS MIXED USE
8:49:48PM DEVELOPMENT TO BE DEVELOPED IN PHASES.
8:49:51PM AND IT WILL BE SUBMITTED AS INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN REVIEW AT
8:49:54PM THE TIME OF INCREMENTAL REVIEW, A DETAILED SITE PLAN WOULD
8:49:58PM BE SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL PRIOR TO PERMITTING.
8:50:01PM SO IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS REZONING APPLICATION, THERE IS A
8:50:05PM CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL AND PLANNING DESIGN
8:50:09PM GUIDELINE BOOK.
8:50:09PM ALSO, A PHASING PLAN AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS
8:50:13PM ALL IN ALIGNMENT WITH THIS REQUEST AND THAT ALL DICTATES THE
8:50:18PM DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE.
8:50:19PM SO ON PAGE 2 OF THE STAFF REPORT, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT
8:50:22PM JUST A CORRECTION.
8:50:24PM I HAVE LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT THE USES ALONG WITH --
8:50:31PM LISTED AS MAXIMUM INTENSITY AND DENSITY, BUT IT'S REALLY THE
8:50:35PM PROPOSED INTENSITY AND DENSITY.
8:50:36PM AND THIS IS WHAT'S PROPOSED IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE LAND
8:50:39PM DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
8:50:40PM THIS IS A MINIMUM OF WHAT WOULD BE PROVIDED, WHICH IS
8:50:43PM RESIDENTIAL OF 954 UNITS.
8:50:46PM 29,844 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL, 3,761 SQUARE
8:50:52PM FEET OF WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER.
8:50:54PM AND 19,744 SQUARE FEET OF CULTURAL CENTER AND ART MUSEUM
8:51:01PM USES ON-SITE.
8:51:02PM SO THE RESIDENTIAL IS BROKEN OUT INTO TOWNHOMES-STYLE AND
8:51:07PM MULTIFAMILY USES.
8:51:10PM OF THE 954 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 185 UNITS ARE RESERVED FOR
8:51:16PM INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EARNING NO MORE THAN 50% OF THE
8:51:20PM AMI.
8:51:23PM AND 94 UNITS ARE RESERVED FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE EARNING
8:51:26PM NO MORE THAN 80% AMI.
8:51:28PM 368 UNITS ARE RESERVED FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EARNING
8:51:32PM NO MORE THAN 140 PERCENT AMI, AND THESE ARE ALL FOR 50-YEAR
8:51:37PM PERIOD.
8:51:38PM 267 UNITS ARE UNRESTRICTED MARKET RATE UNITS.
8:51:43PM AND IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE TOWNHOMES PROVIDED, 40 UNITS ARE
8:51:47PM RESERVED FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EARNING NO MORE THAN
8:51:50PM 199% AMI FOR 15 YEARS.
8:51:52PM DANNY HAS ORIENTED YOU WITH THE SITE, BUT HERE IS THE ZONING
8:52:00PM MAP SHOWING THE PROPERTY.
8:52:01PM THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED.
8:52:02PM THAT'S PARCEL ONE.
8:52:06PM THIS IS PARCEL TWO.
8:52:08PM THIS IS ROME AVENUE, AND MAIN STREET IS LOCATED HERE TO THE
8:52:11PM SOUTH, JUST TO ORIENT YOU ON THE SITE.
8:52:13PM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU HAVE ALONG THE WEST OF ROME STREET,
8:52:18PM YOU HAVE RS-50 AND RM-16 ZONING.
8:52:21PM YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY EXISTING IN A PD THAT'S
8:52:26PM COLUMBUS COURT APARTMENTS AND I HAVE PICTURES TO SHOW YOU
8:52:28PM SHORTLY.
8:52:29PM YOU HAVE YOUR RM 24 ZONING THAT'S TO THE EAST, AND YOUR NMU
8:52:34PM 35 ZONING WHICH IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH.
8:52:37PM INCLUDED WITHIN THE DESIGN BOOK IS THE LAYOUT OF THE SITES
8:52:47PM OF BOTH PARCELS.
8:52:49PM YOU CAN SEE THE ORANGE IS THE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS WHAT
8:52:53PM WOULD PROVIDE THE HIGHEST OF 10 TO 12 STORIES.
8:52:57PM YOUR MULTIFAMILY, THE 11 STORIES IS THE LIGHTER COLOR, AND
8:53:02PM THEN YOU HAVE YOUR VILLAS, WHICH ARE UP TO THREE STORIES.
8:53:05PM AND THESE ARE THE UNITS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY FACE THE PUBLIC
8:53:10PM RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH IS ROME AVENUE.
8:53:12PM THEN YOU HAVE IT TO THE NORTH.
8:53:13PM SO THE FRONT DOOR ENTRANCE WOULD FACE ON THESE SIDE STREETS.
8:53:17PM YOU CAN SEE SURFACE PARKING WOULD BE -- SERVICE PARKING
8:53:21PM WOULD BE LOCATED IN THE REAR OR INTERNAL TO THE SITE WITH
8:53:23PM THE TWO PARKING STRUCTURES LOCATED CENTRAL AND TO THE SOUTH
8:53:26PM OF THE SITE.
8:53:26PM I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA TO
8:53:32PM SHOW.
8:53:37PM THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE.
8:53:41PM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
8:53:42PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST.
8:53:46PM THIS IS ON PALMETTO.
8:53:49PM THIS IS -- MOVING FURTHER NORTH, THIS IS THE SITE, YOU CAN
8:53:59PM SEE THE SITE IS MOSTLY VACANT.
8:54:05PM THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE.
8:54:09PM THAT'S AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF OREGON AND ROME.
8:54:13PM AND THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE, COLUMBUS COURT APARTMENTS.
8:54:19PM THIS IS AT THE NORTH END OF THE SITE AND THIS IS OREGON,
8:54:24PM THAT'S LOOKING SOUTH.
8:54:28PM AND THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE, IF YOU'RE ON THE EAST
8:54:31PM SIDE AND YOU'RE LOOKING TO THE WEST, PARCEL ONE.
8:54:37PM THAT'S ON OREGON, RESIDENTIAL, AND WE WORK OUR WAY DOWN.
8:54:43PM THAT'S ON OREGON.
8:54:48PM ANOTHER VIEW EAST OF THE SITE, AND THIS IS FURTHER DOWN ON
8:54:56PM OREGON LOOKING SOUTH, FURTHER SOUTH.
8:54:59PM THAT'S THE MLK COMPLEX THAT'S TO THE SOUTH.
8:55:01PM THE DRC STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS THE REQUEST
8:55:11PM INCONSISTENT.
8:55:11PM THIS IS DUE TO THE TRANSPORTATION FINDING OF INCONSISTENCIES
8:55:15PM WITH THE REQUESTED WAIVERS.
8:55:17PM IF COUNCIL SHOULD APPROVE THIS REQUEST, MODIFICATIONS TO THE
8:55:20PM SITE PLAN ARE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, AND
8:55:23PM THERE IS A SITE PLAN REVISION SHEET WHICH HAS BEEN INCLUDED
8:55:26PM WITH THE STAFF REPORT, IF YOU CAN INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR
8:55:29PM MOTION.
8:55:29PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
8:55:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOCK?
8:55:33PM THANK YOU.
8:55:35PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:55:49PM >> CAN I GET I.T. TO HELP US WITH THE PRESENTATION?
8:55:56PM >> IT'S UP ON OUR SCREEN.
8:56:03PM >> JAKE CREMER, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
8:56:09PM I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE.
8:56:10PM I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ALBERT, JUNIOR.
8:56:18PM >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:56:20PM ALBERT MILO, JUNIOR, PRESIDENT OF RELATED URBAN, 1800 ROME
8:56:24PM AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
8:56:25PM GLAD TO BE HERE.
8:56:29PM AS MS. FEELEY SAID, THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS OF
8:56:33PM THIS PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT STARTED A COUPLE OF
8:56:37PM YEARS AGO AND THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED ALMOST A YEAR AGO.
8:56:41PM SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH YOUR STAFF AND
8:56:45PM GETTING ALL OF THE AGREEMENTS AND ALL THE ZONING MATTERS IN
8:56:48PM PLACE.
8:56:49PM AGAIN, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO BRING THIS TYPE OF
8:56:52PM DEVELOPMENT TO A PROPERTY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY AN
8:56:57PM UNDERUTILIZED PUBLIC WORKS YARD AND BE ABLE TO NOW BRING A
8:57:01PM TRUE MIXED INCOME COMMUNITY WITH A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITY
8:57:04PM ASPECTS AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS INCLUDED IN THERE.
8:57:07PM AND WE HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE AND
8:57:11PM COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WILL BE TALKING.
8:57:14PM I'M GOING TO LET NICOLE FROM STEARNS WEAVER, OUR ATTORNEY,
8:57:17PM TALK ABOUT THE ZONING ASPECT.
8:57:20PM SURIA, OUR ARCHITECT, WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE SITE PLAN
8:57:25PM ASPECTS.
8:57:26PM PETER VAN WARNER, OUR SENIOR DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, WILL
8:57:29PM ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS THAT WE'VE
8:57:32PM HAD.
8:57:32PM I'LL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF THE COUNCIL'S QUESTIONS.
8:57:35PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
8:57:41PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
8:57:42PM IF I COULD GET I.T. TO PLEASE PULL BACK UP THE PowerPoint
8:57:46PM PRESENTATION?
8:57:46PM THANK YOU.
8:57:48PM AS ALBERT MENTIONED, WE ASSEMBLED AN EXCELLENT EXPERIENCED
8:57:52PM APPLICANT TEAM HERE TODAY.
8:57:53PM MY NAME IS NICOLE NEUGEBAUER.
8:57:55PM MY ADDRESS IS 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, FOR THE RECORD.
8:57:57PM I'M A LAND USE ATTORNEY AT STEARNS WEAVER.
8:58:00PM WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A VERY -- ASSEMBLED A VERY EXPERIENCED
8:58:02PM APPLICANT TEAM HERE THAT IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND
8:58:05PM WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING FOR YOU TODAY.
8:58:08PM FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT
8:58:11PM SINCE THE BEGINNING, THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED NORTH OF I-75,
8:58:14PM WEST OF THE RIVER IN WEST TAMPA.
8:58:17PM IT'S CALLED THE ROME YARD PROJECT, AND IT HAS GONE THROUGH
8:58:20PM MULTIPLE ROUNDS BEFORE YOU THROUGH THE -- INITIALLY THROUGH
8:58:24PM THE RFP PROCESS, RELATED URBAN WAS SELECTED AS PART OF THE
8:58:29PM PROCESS.
8:58:29PM WE CAME BEFORE YOU FOR LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT AND
8:58:32PM BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
8:58:33PM AS PART OF THE DOCUMENTS, WE'RE REQUIRED TO COME BACK BEFORE
8:58:35PM WITH YOU A REZONING AND INFRASTRUCTURE AGREEMENT FOR THE
8:58:38PM INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE RIVERWALK PHASING AND TIMING PLAN AND
8:58:41PM URGENCY AND DESIGN GUIDELINES.
8:58:43PM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR YOU TODAY.
8:58:45PM AS STAFF MENTIONED, THE PROJECT IS IN THE NMU 35 FUTURE LAND
8:58:50PM USE CATEGORY AND NMU 35 ZONING DISTRICT.
8:58:54PM ALSO, STAFF MENTIONED, UNLIKE A LOT OF THE PDs THAT COME
8:58:59PM BEFORE YOU, THIS ONE IS UNIQUE BECAUSE WE WILL BE USING THE
8:59:01PM INCREMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS, WHAT YOU SEE IN OTHER PROJECTS
8:59:05PM LIKE WEST RIVER AND ENCORE.
8:59:06PM THAT MEANS WE'LL PRESENT A CONCEPT PLAN THAT CONSTRAINS
8:59:10PM CERTAIN USES TO PORTIONS OF THE SITE AND INCREMENTAL REVIEW
8:59:13PM WITH EVERY PHASE WITH YOUR STAFF AND THEY WILL REVIEW THE
8:59:16PM PROJECT AGAINST ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS, THE RFP, LAND
8:59:20PM DISPOSITION AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH
8:59:22PM WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU AT EVERY STAGE.
8:59:24PM AS PART OF THAT, WE'RE REQUESTING ALL OF THE NMU USES AS
8:59:28PM WELL AS RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS, BUSINESS SCHOOL AND
8:59:32PM VOCATIONAL SCHOOL.
8:59:32PM ATTACHED IS THE CONCEPT PLAN FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL AND
8:59:38PM DESIGN GUIDELINES.
8:59:39PM TODAY WE'RE PRESENTING A MINIMUM OF 954 MULTIFAMILY
8:59:43PM APARTMENT UNITS.
8:59:45PM WE'LL ALSO HAVE 40 TOWNHOMES THAT ARE INCOME RESTRICTED AND
8:59:48PM WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR SALE, SO THIS IS PROVIDING A HOME
8:59:51PM OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY TO INDIVIDUALS OUT IN WEST TAMPA.
8:59:55PM WE'LL ALSO BE PROVIDING RETAIL, A CULTURAL CENTER, WORKFORCE
8:59:58PM TRAINING CENTER, AND LIVE-WORK UNITS.
9:00:01PM A LOT OF THE DESIGN AS YOU'VE SEEN ON SOME OF THESE GRAPHICS
9:00:06PM TODAY IS DRIVEN DUE TO EXISTING CITY INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE
9:00:10PM SITE THAT IS REALLY CONSTRAINING WHERE WE CAN PLACE ALL OF
9:00:12PM THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE LAND
9:00:15PM DISPOSITION AGREEMENT, TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE RANGE OF
9:00:18PM USES THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED.
9:00:19PM SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IN THE DASHED LINES GOING ACROSS THE
9:00:23PM SITE, THOSE ARE EXISTING CITY PIPES OR EASEMENTS THAT ARE
9:00:25PM RESTRICTING OUR ABILITY TO DEVELOP ON THAT PIECE OF THE
9:00:28PM PROPERTY.
9:00:28PM SO DUE TO THESE CONSTRAINTS, WE REALLY HAD TO INCREASE THE
9:00:33PM HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS IN ORDER TO FIT ALL OF THESE UNITS
9:00:35PM ONTO THE PROJECT AND ALSO ACCOMMODATE THE CULTURAL CENTER,
9:00:37PM THE WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER AND VARIOUS OTHER RETAIL AND
9:00:41PM COMMERCIAL USES.
9:00:42PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITE, WE DESIGNED IT TO BE THOUGHTFUL
9:00:45PM TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S TO THE WEST OF THE SITE BY PROVIDING
9:00:47PM THE TOWNHOMES AS A TRANSITION FROM THE SINGLE-FAMILY AND LOW
9:00:51PM DENSITY COMMERCIAL THAT'S TO THE LEFT OF ROME AVENUE AND
9:00:54PM THEN THE TOWNHOMES AND THEN TRANSITION TO THE LARGER
9:00:57PM MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS.
9:00:58PM AS I MENTIONED IN ORANGE ON THIS SLIDE ARE ALL OF THE AREAS
9:01:03PM ON THE TWO PARCELS THAT WE CANNOT BUILD DUE TO THE EXISTING
9:01:06PM CITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:01:07PM ALSO, BOTH OF THESE PARCELS ARE ENTIRELY WITHIN A BROWNFIELD
9:01:11PM AREA WHICH DOES PRESENT ADDITIONAL REDEVELOPMENT ISSUES AS
9:01:13PM WE'RE GOING IN TO DESIGN THE SITE.
9:01:16PM YOU'LL SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR A
9:01:18PM NUMBER OF WAIVERS.
9:01:19PM MOST OF THESE WAIVERS ROUTINELY COME BEFORE YOU WITH LARGE
9:01:22PM MIXED USE PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
9:01:24PM TWO OF THEM I WOULD SAY ARE UNIQUE TO THIS SITE.
9:01:26PM ONE DUE TO ACTIVATING THE ROOF DECKS AND THE OTHER RELATED
9:01:30PM TO HOW MANY TOWNHOMES ARE CONTINUOUS.
9:01:32PM AND AGAIN, THESE WAIVERS ARE DUE TO THE SITE CONSTRAINTS
9:01:36PM FROM THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS
9:01:38PM THAT WE HAVE FROM THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT, THE
9:01:41PM COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT AND RFP.
9:01:43PM FROM A COMPATIBILITY PERSPECTIVE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE OTHER
9:01:47PM PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT PROVIDE A LARGE
9:01:49PM MULTIFAMILY BUILDING NEXT TO SMALLER DENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY
9:01:53PM AND COMMERCIAL PROJECTS.
9:01:54PM THIS IS COMMON IN A VIEW CORRIDOR LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S
9:01:57PM ALONG THE RIVER, SO IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER AREAS IN THE
9:02:01PM CITY OF TAMPA.
9:02:01PM HERE IS A VIEW OF LOOKING DOWN ROME AVENUE WITH THE
9:02:05PM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE SIDE, OUR TOWNHOMES, AND
9:02:09PM THEN YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACK A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING.
9:02:11PM AGAIN, THIS WAS THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A NICE
9:02:14PM TRANSITION FROM THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE WEST
9:02:16PM SIDE OF ROME AVENUE INTO THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS THAT ARE
9:02:18PM UP AGAINST THE RIVER.
9:02:19PM AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE SURIA YAFFAR, WHO IS
9:02:24PM THE PRINCIPAL OF ZYSCOVICH ARCHITECTS, TO WALK THROUGH THE
9:02:27PM PROJECT AMENITIES AND PROJECT DESIGN.
9:02:29PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:02:39PM CAN YOU HEAR ME WELL?
9:02:41PM SURIA YAFFAR, PRINCIPAL WITH ZYSCOVICH ARCHITECTS, WITH
9:02:44PM OFFICES IN 3505 EAST FRONTAGE ROAD, CITY OF TAMPA.
9:02:50PM WELL, THE EASEMENTS HAVE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY, WHEN YOU
9:02:56PM LOOK AT THE GREENSPACE ON THE SCREEN IS OPEN SPACE, THAT IT
9:03:02PM IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED FOR THE COMMUNITY.
9:03:07PM AND WHAT THE INTENT IS TO BRING A VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD IN
9:03:11PM THIS AREA, AND THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE BY BRINGING IN PROJECT
9:03:16PM AMENITIES AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT GET PEOPLE TO WORK
9:03:20PM TOGETHER, ENJOY TOGETHER AND SPEND TIME TOGETHER.
9:03:23PM PURSUANT TO THE REQUESTED PROPOSAL, THE LAND DISPOSITION
9:03:28PM AGREEMENT AND COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENTS, THIS ROME YARD
9:03:33PM NEIGHBORHOOD IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDE MANY PROJECT AMENITIES
9:03:37PM AND BENEFITS THAT WOULD INCLUDE IN THIS PARCEL PICNIC AREAS
9:03:42PM AND BARBEQUE AREAS, A POOL, A FITNESS WALKING PATH.
9:03:48PM ALSO, TRAINING CENTER, ACTIVITY SPACES FOR EVERYBODY TO
9:03:52PM ENJOY.
9:03:54PM ON THE SOUTHERN PARCEL, WE ARE PROVIDING WHAT WE'RE CALLING
9:04:01PM THE GREAT LAWN, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT CIVIC SPACE OF
9:04:05PM THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE CREATING THAT WOULD HAVE OUTDOOR
9:04:11PM PERFORMANCE SPACES FOR MUSIC EVENTS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES.
9:04:15PM IT WOULD INCLUDE AN EXTENSION OF THE ROAD OF WILLOW WRAPPING
9:04:20PM AROUND ALL THE WAY UP TO OREGON WITH NEW PEDESTRIAN
9:04:27PM WALKWAYS, STREET LIGHTING, BEAUTIFUL STREETSCAPE AND ALSO A
9:04:34PM LOT OF BIKE PATHS.
9:04:37PM YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THIS WILL ALSO INCLUDE A MURAL WALK
9:04:43PM THAT WILL BE A PART OF THE RIVERWALK AS IT COMES THROUGH THE
9:04:46PM DEVELOPMENT AND INTO A GATEWAY THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE
9:04:51PM WEST TAMPA CULTURAL CENTER AND ART MUSEUM.
9:04:55PM YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE PINK.
9:04:56PM THIS ILLUSTRATES THE PATH, THE RIVERWALK COMING FROM THE
9:05:03PM HILLSBOROUGH RIVER THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT ALL THE WAY UP TO
9:05:10PM ROME AVENUE.
9:05:11PM YOU CAN SEE THAT IN BLUE WE HAVE THE HART BUS LINE WHERE
9:05:18PM WE'LL PROVIDE CONNECTIONS TO.
9:05:21PM IN ADDITION, WE ARE PROPOSING THOSE NEW ROADWAYS THAT YOU
9:05:25PM CAN SEE UP THERE IN THE DARK BLUE THAT IS GOING TO TAKE THIS
9:05:28PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKE IT PART OF THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY
9:05:31PM IN THIS AREA.
9:05:32PM SO THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO AT THE END OF THE DAY TO MAKE A
9:05:36PM COMMUNITY THAT WILL BE OPEN, THAT WILL BE ACCESSIBLE, THAT
9:05:39PM WILL BE SAFE, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE COMFORTABLE FOR
9:05:43PM EVERYONE TO ENJOY.
9:05:44PM THIS ILLUSTRATION INDICATES THE TWO PARCELS THAT WE WERE
9:05:52PM JUST REFERRING TO AND HOW THE RIVERWALK COMES THROUGH THAT
9:05:57PM DEVELOPMENT ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH ROME AVENUE.
9:06:02PM THIS IS A RENDERING THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT THE RIVERWALK WILL
9:06:08PM FEEL LIKE WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS GATEWAY OF THE DEVELOPMENT
9:06:11PM ON THE SOUTHERN WALK AND HOW WE WILL BE ACTIVATED WITH
9:06:16PM GROUND FLOOR GALLERY SPACES, BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE, LIGHTING,
9:06:22PM AND A LOT OF ACTIVITIES THAT WE FEEL, LIKE RESTAURANTS AND
9:06:26PM LIFESTYLE RETAIL THAT WILL BE WELCOMING AND SAFE AND
9:06:32PM BEAUTIFUL TO WALK THROUGH.
9:06:34PM THESE RENDERINGS HERE ILLUSTRATE THE FEEL OF THE SPACE.
9:06:41PM WE HAVE THE GREAT LAWN ON THE TOP VIEW, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW
9:06:45PM THAT WOULD EXTEND ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE FRONTAGE.
9:06:48PM SO THE INTENT OF THE PROJECT IS FOR IT TO OPEN TO EVERYBODY
9:06:52PM THAT IS COMING FROM THE RIVERWALK, WELCOMING THOSE
9:06:56PM ACTIVITIES AND PEOPLE GATHERING SPACES THAT ARE GOING TO BE
9:07:00PM A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT ESSENTIALLY, YOU CAN SEE THE NEW
9:07:07PM ROADS, HOW THAT WILL BE CONNECTING TO THE REST OF THE
9:07:10PM NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND.
9:07:12PM EVENTS IN THE GREAT LAWN WOULD INCLUDE MOVIE NIGHTS, MUSIC,
9:07:18PM ACTIVITIES, OUTDOOR SEATING, AS WELL AS A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN
9:07:24PM AND BIKE FACILITIES FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO COME INTO
9:07:28PM THE SPACE AND BE PART OF IT.
9:07:30PM WE ALSO HAVE GROUND FLOOR AREAS ACTIVATING THE SPACE THAT
9:07:36PM WOULD INCLUDE RETAIL AND ALSO OUTDOOR DINING EVENTS.
9:07:41PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO MAKE IT MORE WALKABLE, IT IS GOING TO
9:07:49PM BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, AS EVERYBODY
9:07:52PM WALKS THROUGH THE SPACES.
9:07:54PM LANDSCAPE PLAZAS, ELEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WELCOMING
9:08:00PM FOR EVERYBODY TO BE PART OF IT.
9:08:03PM ALSO FOR RESIDENTIAL AMENITIES, YOU SEE THAT ONE OF THE
9:08:07PM REQUESTS IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE THE ROOF DECKS SO
9:08:12PM WE CAN THEN HAVE SPACES FOR EVERYBODY TO GATHER, SHADED
9:08:16PM AREAS AND POSSIBLY EVEN SOME GARDENS UP THERE THAT THE
9:08:21PM RESIDENTS COULD HAVE.
9:08:22PM OUR GUIDELINES DESCRIBE DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE
9:08:28PM THINK ARE GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO BE PART OF THE
9:08:31PM DEVELOPMENT.
9:08:31PM THE TOWNHOMES, AS IT WAS MENTIONED, TRANSITION DOWN INTO THE
9:08:35PM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WEST OF ROME AVENUE, WHERE THEY ARE
9:08:40PM GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS.
9:08:42PM THEY WILL OPEN -- THE MAIN DOOR IS GOING TO BE FACING ROME
9:08:46PM AVENUE WITH PATIOS AND GARDENS AND WOULD INCLUDE ELEMENTS OF
9:08:50PM LOCAL MATERIALS THAT WE FIND THAT WOULD INCLUDE BRICK,
9:08:55PM BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPES, AND ALSO A WIDE SETBACK FOR THE
9:08:59PM RIVERWALK TO BE FRONTING THESE AREAS.
9:09:01PM ALSO, THE GUIDELINES INCLUDE GARAGE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS
9:09:09PM AND LANDSCAPE AND BEAUTIFUL SCREENING AREAS THAT WE THINK
9:09:15PM SHOULD BE PART OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT THAT ALSO WHERE WE
9:09:19PM HAVE THE GREAT LAWN WOULD ALSO INCLUDE RETAIL AND OUTDOOR
9:09:25PM DINING SPACES.
9:09:33PM >> THANK YOU.
9:09:34PM PETER VAN WARNER, SENIOR DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH RELATED
9:09:37PM URBAN DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
9:09:38PM 1800 NORTH ROME AVENUE.
9:09:40PM JUST LIKE ALL DEVELOPMENTS THAT RELATED GROUP DOES, WE HAVE
9:09:43PM LOTS OF PUBLIC ART.
9:09:44PM WE FEEL THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT
9:09:47PM INSPIRES PEOPLE, BUT IT CREATES A GREAT COMMUNITY GATHERING
9:09:49PM PLACE.
9:09:50PM ALTHOUGH ART IS GREAT, BY FAR THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF
9:09:56PM THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
9:09:58PM AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE STANDING
9:10:01PM FOR 150-PLUS YEARS.
9:10:02PM WE HAVE ONE CHANCE TO DO IT RIGHT.
9:10:04PM WE'VE HAD A PLETHORA OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENTS, MANY MORE
9:10:08PM THAN ARE LISTED HERE, THE FOUR MAIN ONES.
9:10:11PM AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE RECENT ONE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS
9:10:13PM AGO, NUMEROUS MEETINGS WITH THE WEST TAMPA CRA, WEST TAMPA
9:10:17PM CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER COMMUNITY
9:10:20PM ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS.
9:10:22PM WE FEEL THAT IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY
9:10:25PM AS A WHOLE PROUD OF THIS.
9:10:27PM I MEAN, PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WANT THEIR VOICES
9:10:30PM TO BE HEARD.
9:10:31PM WE'RE INCORPORATING ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS INDICATIVE OF THE
9:10:34PM CIGAR TOWERS, INDICATIVE OF THE RICH HISTORY OF WEST TAMPA
9:10:38PM AND TAMPA IN GENERAL.
9:10:39PM BUT REALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT COMES DOWN TO THE
9:10:42PM ENTIRE COMMUNITY SUPPORTING AND BEING PROUD OF THIS
9:10:44PM DEVELOPMENT.
9:10:45PM IN SUMMARY, ROME YARDS WILL BE A VIBRANT MIXED USE, MIXED
9:10:50PM INCOME DEVELOPMENT, A SOCIOECONOMIC HUB, IF YOU WILL.
9:10:56PM INCREASES NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIVITY, INCLUDING THE EXPANSION
9:10:58PM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA RIVERWALK WHICH WILL CUT RIGHT THROUGH
9:11:00PM OUR DEVELOPMENT AND WILL HAVE AN EXTENSION OF THE SOUL WALK
9:11:03PM WITH PUBLIC ART OFFERINGS ALL THROUGHOUT THE RIVERWALK.
9:11:06PM PROJECT AMENITIES AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS, THE WEST TAMPA
9:11:09PM CULTURAL AND ART MUSEUM, THE WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER,
9:11:12PM GREAT LAWN, PUBLIC ART, AS I MENTIONED, PERHAPS MOST
9:11:17PM IMPORTANTLY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.
9:11:20PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CONSIDERATION.
9:11:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
9:11:25PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:11:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
9:11:28PM A COMMENT REALLY.
9:11:29PM WHAT HAVE WE DONE REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENT?
9:11:31PM TYPES OF MATERIALS OR ANY SOLAR OR ANY SAVING OF WATER
9:11:36PM UNDERGROUND, WHATEVER.
9:11:37PM >> YES, SIR.
9:11:38PM IT WILL BE LEED CERTIFIED AT A MINIMUM.
9:11:41PM WE'LL ACTUALLY TRY TO GO FOR LEED GOLD, BUT SUSTAINABILITY
9:11:44PM IS VERY IMPORTANT.
9:11:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT LEED,
9:11:47PM BUT ANY SOLAR OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE TO HELP LOWER THE
9:11:50PM COST OF ELECTRICITY FOR THE DWELLERS?
9:11:52PM >> WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT STAGE OF THE PROJECT,
9:11:58PM COUNCILMAN, BUT ONE OF THE COMPONENTS THAT WE MENTIONED THAT
9:12:02PM WE'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER ON IS THOSE ACTIVATED GREEN ROOFS.
9:12:06PM THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS ONE OF THE COMPONENTS THAT STARTS
9:12:09PM TO LOWER SOME OF THE SOLAR EFFECT OF THE BUILDINGS.
9:12:13PM THAT'S ONE OF THE WAIVERS WE'RE REQUESTING.
9:12:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE REASON I ASK THAT, I COME FROM PUBLIC
9:12:17PM HOUSING.
9:12:18PM BACK IN THE '50s, WE HAD SOLAR ON THE ROOF.
9:12:21PM IT WAS ONLY FOR HOT WATER, BUT WE HAD SOLAR.
9:12:24PM SO I KEEP THAT IN MIND AND I USE IT ONCE IN A WHILE TO FIND
9:12:28PM OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
9:12:31PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:12:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
9:12:40PM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
9:12:47PM TO THIS?
9:12:53PM >> KEN BRACKINS, 2305 NORTH WILLOW AVENUE.
9:12:56PM DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROJECT.
9:13:00PM RICK'S ON THE RIVER BEEN THERE GOING ON 29 YEARS.
9:13:04PM SO I'VE SEEN IT ALL OVER THERE.
9:13:05PM I'M ENCOURAGING YOU GUYS TO PASS THIS REZONING EFFORT FOR
9:13:11PM MANY REASONS, BUT I'VE SEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE WORST
9:13:16PM AND I'VE SEEN IT, IT'S COMING BACK WITH THE DEMISE OF THE
9:13:22PM NORTH BOULEVARD HOMES.
9:13:23PM EVERYTHING HAS BEEN A LOT BETTER.
9:13:26PM WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THAT AREA FOR YEARS WITH VAGRANTS.
9:13:34PM THERE WAS A SHOOTING OVER THERE IN THE PARKING LOT A FEW
9:13:36PM MONTHS AGO.
9:13:37PM JUST SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
9:13:40PM THEY HAVE REALLY GIVEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THIS.
9:13:43PM IT LOOKS GREAT.
9:13:44PM THERE'S ARGUABLY, I'M GOING TO BE THE ONE IMPACTED THE MOST
9:13:50PM BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.
9:13:52PM THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME COMPETITION.
9:13:54PM I'M FINE WITH THAT.
9:13:55PM SO THAT'S ALL I'M UP HERE TO SAY IS PLEASE CONSIDER IT AND
9:14:02PM HOPEFULLY YOU PASS IT.
9:14:03PM THANK YOU.
9:14:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
9:14:05PM COMPETITION.
9:14:06PM I THINK COMPETITION IS GOING TO COME TO YOU AND YOU --
9:14:10PM YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE MORE SERVERS.
9:14:17PM >> GOOD EVENING, AGAIN.
9:14:19PM MY NAME IS SANDY DI DIEGO SANCHEZ.
9:14:23PM I LIVE IN WEST TAMPA.
9:14:25PM MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT I AM INVOLVED IN MANY ORGANIZATIONS
9:14:28PM THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY.
9:14:30PM SO I CAN APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT'S BEING PUT FORTH TO
9:14:35PM MAKE ROME YARD A SUCCESS.
9:14:37PM THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WILL BRING FORTH
9:14:40PM A LOT OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE NEED AND THE
9:14:44PM EMPHASIS ON CULTURAL INTERACTION IS POSITIVE.
9:14:47PM I KNOW YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR ANYTHING THIS EVENING, BUT AS
9:14:51PM THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD AND I'M SURE SOME OF THE STUMBLING
9:14:56PM BLOCKS WILL BE CONQUERED, SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THERE
9:15:00PM ARE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORT THIS.
9:15:10PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
9:15:11PM I'M DELPHINE JONES WITH WEST TAMPA CAC BOARD AND ALSO THE
9:15:18PM CRIME WATCH GROUP.
9:15:19PM I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
9:15:21PM I DON'T HAVE ANY QUALMS WITH IT.
9:15:25PM WHEN IT'S DONE, IT WILL BE AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:15:28PM WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THIS A LONG TIME.
9:15:31PM I'VE BEEN AT IT 27 YEARS.
9:15:33PM I'M GROWING TOO OLD.
9:15:35PM SO WE'LL HAVE TO GET REST SOONER OR LATER.
9:15:54PM >> HI.
9:15:56PM I AM DANIELLE DIETZ.
9:15:58PM I'M ON WEST SAINT CONRAD.
9:16:00PM I'M NOT ONLY IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED
9:16:03PM FOR IT.
9:16:03PM ACTUALLY IN THE TAMPA BAY BUSINESS JOURNAL YOU WERE
9:16:07PM INTERVIEWED RECENTLY AND THE QUESTION WAS, HOW DO YOU DEFINE
9:16:10PM SMART DEVELOPMENT?
9:16:11PM I THINK THIS PROJECT IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.
9:16:13PM NOT ONLY THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR,
9:16:17PM BUT THE PROACTIVE OUTREACH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, THE
9:16:20PM INCLUSIVITY OF UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS IN THE CULTURAL
9:16:23PM ELEMENTS.
9:16:24PM I THINK THIS IS GOING TO MAKE A REALLY GOOD IMPACT FOR THE
9:16:26PM COMMUNITY NOT ONLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT FOR THE GROWTH TO
9:16:30PM COME.
9:16:36PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:16:38PM JOE ROBINSON, WEST TAMPA CRA VICE-CHAIR, WEST TAMPA CDC
9:16:44PM VICE-CHAIR, BUSINESS MAN IN WEST TAMPA, BEEN THERE ALL MY
9:16:48PM LIFE, CHARLIE, THIS IS IN THE CRA, MR. GUDES.
9:16:53PM THIS IS CRA.
9:16:53PM IT'S IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, MR. GUDES.
9:16:56PM OKAY.
9:16:57PM THAT IS THE FIRST THING.
9:16:59PM IT IS A NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, CHARLIE, GUIDO.
9:17:02PM OKAY.
9:17:04PM IT'S A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BENEFIT AGREEMENT, CITY COUNCIL,
9:17:11PM SOMETHING YOU ALL FOUGHT FOR FOR YEARS, THE VERY FIRST
9:17:14PM COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT IS HERE.
9:17:15PM IT'S A PROPERTY THAT WILL PARTIALLY BE CONVEYED AND
9:17:20PM PARTIALLY LEASED BY THE DEVELOPER.
9:17:24PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NOT 200,000 ACRES OF WET ZONING,
9:17:28PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
9:17:30PM WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
9:17:31PM WE'RE TALKING APPROXIMATELY 954 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH AT
9:17:36PM LEAST 647 AFFORDABLE UNITS, HOUSING, HOUSING, HOUSING, WAY
9:17:40PM MORE THAN ANY 30% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:17:44PM 209,844 SQUARE FEET COMMERCIAL RETAIL SPACE.
9:17:48PM 3,761 SQUARE FOOT WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER NEEDED IN A SLUM
9:17:53PM AND BLIGHTED AREA.
9:17:54PM SLUM AND BLIGHTED IS WHAT IT IS NOW.
9:17:56PM THE WEST TAMPA CULTURAL ARTS CENTER AND MUSEUM, EVEN THOUGH
9:18:03PM THEY WANT TO PUT ONE UP THE STREET, WE'LL BEAT THEM TO IT
9:18:06PM BECAUSE THEY AIN'T GOT THEIR MONEY YET.
9:18:08PM THESE PEOPLE BRINGING THEIR OWN MONEY.
9:18:10PM LISTEN, I'VE BEEN WAITING ALL MY LIFE FOR THIS.
9:18:16PM I'VE BEEN FIGHTING HARD FOR THIS.
9:18:18PM I TOOK SOME BEATINS'.
9:18:21PM YOU-ALL AIN'T THE ONLY ONES THAT TAKE BEATINGS, MR. CARLSON.
9:18:24PM I TAKE A LOT OF BEATINGS, MS. HURTAK.
9:18:27PM A LOT OF THEM.
9:18:28PM A LOT OF THEM.
9:18:28PM BUT I GET UP AND KEEP ON TRYING.
9:18:30PM THIS IS A BLESSING.
9:18:31PM CRA, SLUM AND BLIGHTED COMMUNITY, OKAY, AND THIS IS A PIECE
9:18:36PM OF THE CRA.
9:18:37PM THIS IS A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
9:18:39PM GO UP ON MAIN STREET AND SEE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
9:18:41PM LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO OUR PARKS.
9:18:43PM LOOK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO LIGHTING, CRIME.
9:18:46PM PUBLIC SAFETY AND CRIME, I KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF CRIME.
9:18:51PM THIS WILL DO THAT.
9:18:52PM THIS WILL PROVIDE WORKFORCE FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED A JOB.
9:18:55PM THIS WILL WORK WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, EVEN THOUGH JUSTICES
9:18:59PM THERE MAY BE REMOVED OR MAY BE REBUILT.
9:19:03PM WE COME A LONG WAY, SO I'M ASKING YOU TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK
9:19:11PM AT THIS REZONING AND THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND AGREEMENT.
9:19:15PM BRING IT BACK ON THE 20th OF APRIL, WHATEVER THEY WANT,
9:19:18PM BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY DONE HEARD THIS OVER AND OVER.
9:19:21PM ONE THING THEY KNOW, MR. GUDES, SLUM AND BLIGHT, GOING TO
9:19:24PM HAVE NEGATIVE EFFECTS.
9:19:26PM IF IT LOOK BEAUTIFUL, PUT ON A NICE SUIT AND NICE HAT, IT
9:19:30PM WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE PEOPLE IN THE HOOD OR ON THE
9:19:33PM STREETS.
9:19:34PM THAT'S WHY WE PUT MONEY AND THANKS TO YOU ALL APPROVING $1
9:19:37PM MILLION FOR SALCINES PARK, $2 MILLION REY PARK WHEN THE CITY
9:19:42PM DIDN'T HAVE NO MONEY.
9:19:43PM WE PUT THE MOTION AND YOU GUYS APPROVED IT.
9:19:45PM MORE TO COME.
9:19:46PM WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:19:47PM WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU ALL, WHETHER YOU BE THERE
9:19:50PM OR NOT, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND WE APPRECIATE WHAT
9:19:53PM YOU'RE DOING.
9:19:55PM THANK YOU AND LET'S MOVE ON.
9:19:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:19:57PM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
9:20:02PM IS MR. RANDOLPH ON THE LINE?
9:20:05PM >> YES.
9:20:06PM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:20:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE HE IS.
9:20:09PM >> OKAY.
9:20:10PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:20:10PM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:20:13PM I'M --
9:20:15PM >>THE CLERK: MR. RANDOLPH, WE WILL NEED YOU TO ENABLE YOUR
9:20:19PM VIDEO BEING THAT THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING.
9:20:23PM >> OKAY.
9:20:24PM YOU CAN'T SEE MY VIDEO?
9:20:25PM OH, HERE YOU GO.
9:20:27PM IS THAT IT?
9:20:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE YOU GO.
9:20:29PM >> EXCELLENT.
9:20:30PM THANK YOU.
9:20:30PM I'M QUITE EXCITED ABOUT THIS --
9:20:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE BRING HIM UP ON FULL SCREEN, PLEASE?
9:20:40PM >>THE CLERK: YOU WILL ALSO NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
9:20:42PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
9:20:46PM >> THE OTHER RIGHT HAND.
9:20:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE YOU GO.
9:20:53PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE
9:20:55PM ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
9:20:57PM >> YES.
9:21:00PM >>THE CLERK: YOU MAY LOWER YOUR HAND.
9:21:02PM THANK YOU.
9:21:02PM >> IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.
9:21:04PM YOU ALL SHOULD GET THAT, PSYCHOLOGICALLY DRAINING AS CITY
9:21:12PM COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:21:13PM I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THE DEAL RELATING TO WEST TAMPA CDC.
9:21:16PM THE WEST TAMPA CDC WAS CHARGED WITH PUTTING TOGETHER A DEAL
9:21:21PM TO BRING HOME THE BACON AS WE SAY AT THE TABLE.
9:21:26PM THERE WERE FOUR KEY COMPONENTS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO
9:21:29PM SEE.
9:21:30PM THEY WANTED TO SEE A REDUCTION IN GENTRIFICATION BY DESIGN
9:21:36PM AND INTENTIONALLY.
9:21:37PM THEY WANTED TO SEE A REDUCTION IN CRIME IN PUBLIC SAFETY
9:21:41PM INCREASE.
9:21:42PM THEY WANT TO SEE AN INCREASE IN GENERATIONAL WEALTH, LESS
9:21:46PM THAN 3% OF RESIDENTS IN WEST TAMPA OWN THEIR OWN BUSINESS
9:21:50PM AND THEN A REDUCTION IN THE TECHNOLOGY GAP.
9:21:54PM TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS KNOWN AS THE WEST TAMPA WEALTH
9:22:00PM BUILDING INITIATIVE.
9:22:01PM THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS TO THIS INITIATIVE.
9:22:03PM THE FIRST PART OF THE INITIATIVE IS CALLED WEST TAMPA
9:22:08PM CONNECTION.
9:22:08PM THIS IS GOING TO BE A WEB-BASED PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO IN AND
9:22:15PM CONNECT.
9:22:16PM IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT LOOKING FOR A JOB IN WEST TAMPA, YOU
9:22:19PM CAN COLLECT TO A WEST TAMPA EMPLOYER AND BEYOND.
9:22:23PM THE OTHER THING IS THAT IN WEST TAMPA AND LOOKING FOR
9:22:26PM SOMETHING TO BUY, LIKE A WEST TAMPA DOOR, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO
9:22:31PM CONNECT TO BUSINESSES IN WEST TAMPA.
9:22:32PM THE SECOND PART OF THIS INITIATIVE IS CALLED A HOME BASED
9:22:36PM E-COMMERCE INITIATIVE.
9:22:38PM AS YOU KNOW, THE FASTEST GROWING BUSINESS IN THE NATION IS
9:22:41PM E-COMMERCE AND HOME-BASED BUSINESSES.
9:22:44PM WHAT WE PROPOSE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IS TO BRING ON BOARD
9:22:49PM ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO 70 TYPE OF BUSINESSES FULL-TIME AND
9:22:54PM PART-TIME RESIDENTS IN WEST TAMPA.
9:22:56PM OUR TARGETED POPULATION ARE THOSE THAT ARE LEFT BEHIND.
9:23:00PM THEY INCLUDE THE LOW INCOME, THOSE -- THE DISABLED, LOW AND
9:23:09PM MODERATE INCOME.
9:23:10PM THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS ANYWHERE FROM
9:23:13PM LANDSCAPING, CAKE MAKING, ONE OF THE MOST FASTEST GROWING
9:23:18PM BUSINESSES, CAKE MAKING.
9:23:22PM CLEANING SERVICES.
9:23:24PM WE'VE HAD OVER 12 COMMUNITY MEETINGS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS
9:23:32PM TO GET INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
9:23:34PM THIS TIME IT IS A WIN-WIN BECAUSE IT GOES TO REDUCING
9:23:41PM GENTRIFICATION BY DESIGN AND INTENTIONALLY.
9:23:44PM YOU KNOW THERE'S OVER 45% OF THE RESIDENTS IN WEST TAMPA
9:23:51PM THAT ARE LOW INCOME.
9:23:52PM WITH THIS DEAL -- I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR -- I
9:24:03PM WANTED TO THANK THE RELATED GROUP, THE TAMPA HOUSING
9:24:06PM AUTHORITY, THE RESIDENTS OF WEST TAMPA BRINGING THIS DEAL TO
9:24:12PM THE TABLE.
9:24:12PM THIS TIME IS A WIN-WIN DEAL FOR THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA AND
9:24:19PM SPECIFICALLY THE RESIDENTS OF WEST TAMPA AND AGAIN, THANK
9:24:22PM YOU VERY MUCH.
9:24:23PM AND WE DO APPROVE THIS DEAL.
9:24:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:24:28PM MR. CREMER, WOULD YOU LIKE REBUTTAL.
9:24:35PM >> I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS MANY SMILES IN A REZONING IN A LONG
9:24:38PM TIME.
9:24:39PM I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
9:24:40PM OUR ENTIRE TIME IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
9:24:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU AGREE TO THE REVISION BETWEEN FIRST AND
9:24:46PM SECOND READING?
9:24:48PM >> YES, SIR, WE DO.
9:24:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:24:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:24:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR INVOLVING THE
9:24:55PM COMMUNITY SO MUCH BECAUSE AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM PREVIOUS
9:25:01PM ITEMS TONIGHT, THAT IS A BIG STICKING POINT FOR US.
9:25:08PM BUT WITH THIS AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD EARLIER
9:25:13PM TONIGHT, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THIS PDA
9:25:20PM GOES FORWARD AND WE'RE DOING INCREMENTAL DESIGN AND
9:25:24PM DEVELOPMENT, WHAT ARE THE RESIDENTS, HOW CAN THEY GET THEIR
9:25:29PM -- IF ISSUES COME UP, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IF, BECAUSE WHEN,
9:25:33PM BECAUSE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMETHING, HOW ARE THEY GOING
9:25:35PM TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH YOU AND MAKE SURE THAT THE
9:25:40PM RESIDENTS WHO ARE ON BOARD WITH THIS NOW CONTINUE TO BE ON
9:25:43PM BOARD THROUGHOUT?
9:25:44PM I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE.
9:25:47PM SO HOW CAN WE ASSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL CONTINUE TO BE
9:25:52PM A PART OF THIS.
9:25:55PM >> ALBERT AND PETER HAVE COMMENTS.
9:25:56PM IN THE LDA AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT, THERE ARE
9:26:00PM REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO REGULARLY HOLD CONTINUAL
9:26:04PM COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
9:26:04PM WE ALSO, BY THE WAY, UNDER ALL THREE AGREEMENTS, WE HAVE TO
9:26:09PM GIVE YOUR STAFF CONTINUAL UPDATES ON THE PROGRESS OF THE
9:26:12PM PROJECT.
9:26:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:26:14PM I FORGOT ABOUT COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
9:26:17PM IT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY.
9:26:19PM I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
9:26:23PM I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE NOT SHY.
9:26:25PM THEY WILL LET YOU KNOW.
9:26:28PM I'M GLAD TO HEAR WE WILL HAVE THOSE INCREMENTAL MEETINGS SO
9:26:32PM THAT THIS CAN BE A CONTINUOUSLY POSITIVE PROJECT.
9:26:36PM BECAUSE THERE WILL BE HICCUPS, BUT THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF
9:26:39PM LIFE.
9:26:39PM OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:26:42PM AGAIN, REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
9:26:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:26:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AGAIN, THANK YOU.
9:26:51PM I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE TRANSFORMATIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY,
9:26:55PM LIFTING THE COMMUNITY UP.
9:26:56PM YOU SEE NOTHING BUT SUPPORT OUT HERE.
9:26:59PM I'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT AREA MY WHOLE LIFE AND YOU SEE WHAT
9:27:03PM IT'S LIKE AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE AND THE ATTENTION TO
9:27:06PM DETAIL FOR A GREAT QUALITY OF LIFE.
9:27:09PM THE AMENITIES THAT YOU'RE OFFERING TO THE COMMUNITY, THE
9:27:11PM INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC ART, I CAN GO ON AND ON.
9:27:14PM MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WOULD SUGGEST WE MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE
9:27:17PM AND APPROVE THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DISAPPOINT JOE
9:27:20PM ROBINSON.
9:27:21PM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:27:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WAS THAT A MOTION, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
9:27:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL SECOND THAT, BUT ALONG WITH
9:27:30PM COUNCILMAN GUIDO JUST SAID, MANISCALCO, THIS IS THE START OF
9:27:35PM GIVING SOMEONE HOPE THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.
9:27:37PM AND WHEN YOU CHANGE THE SCENERY AND YOU CHANGE THE
9:27:42PM ENVIRONMENT OF WHAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY, IT MAKES EVERYBODY
9:27:46PM MUCH BETTER.
9:27:47PM AND YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE EDUCATION YOU WANT, BUT IT'S WHAT
9:27:51PM YOU SEE AND WHAT YOU LEARN THAT MAKES YOU A DIFFERENT
9:27:53PM PERSON.
9:27:54PM I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR IT.
9:27:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:28:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. ROBINSON SAID IT RIGHT, WHEN YOU LOOK
9:28:04PM GOOD YOU FEEL GOOD.
9:28:05PM WHEN YOU FEEL GOOD, YOU DO GOOD.
9:28:07PM THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.
9:28:11PM DEION SANDERS USED TO COME HERE IN THE SUMMERS AND PLAY OUR
9:28:17PM BALL CLUBS.
9:28:17PM FIRST TIME HE CAME WAS AT BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL.
9:28:20PM EVERYBODY WANTED TO COME OUT AND SEE PRIME-TIME.
9:28:26PM PLAYING ON THE EIGHT-YEAR-OLD SQUAD.
9:28:29PM DEION COACHED EVERY TEAM.
9:28:31PM NOT JUST ONE, HE COACHED EVERY TEAM CONSISTENTLY, THE SAME
9:28:36PM SYSTEM, THE SAME SYSTEM, THE SAME SYSTEM.
9:28:39PM REMEMBER LIKE IT WAS TOMORROW.
9:28:41PM I CAN REMEMBER WHEN THOSE KIDS SAW DEION'S KIDS GET OFF THE
9:28:48PM BUS, WHAT I CALL THE PSYCHEDELIC UNIFORM, THE AIR HELMETS,
9:28:55PM THE LOOK, IT CHANGES THE MINDSET BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE VISUAL.
9:29:01PM AND I CAN SEE THE KIDS LIKE, WOW, DEION IS HERE, THE
9:29:07PM UNIFORM.
9:29:10PM THAT'S WHY WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
9:29:16PM AGREEMENT, I KNEW THAT COULD BE A TRANSFORMATIVE THING.
9:29:20PM I HEARD ABOUT MIAMI DOING IT AND OTHER PLACES.
9:29:23PM WHEN I LOOK AT THE LAND USE DEALS ALL THE TIME, THE PROBLEM,
9:29:26PM THEY CAN GO THROUGH VARIOUS, IF YOU HAVE COMMUNITY
9:29:28PM ENGAGEMENT.
9:29:28PM IF THE COMMUNITY IS INVOLVED, NOT JUST I WANT TO BUILD, BUT
9:29:32PM YOU INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY IN THE PROJECT.
9:29:33PM YOU DON'T HAVE THESE ISSUES, YES AND NOES, MAYBE A FEW
9:29:39PM HICCUPS, BUT PRETTY MUCH THE COMMUNITY CAN BE INVOLVED IN
9:29:41PM THE PROCESS OF THEIR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY
9:29:44PM LIVE AT.
9:29:45PM THEY ARE A PART OF IT.
9:29:46PM THEY FEEL OWNERSHIP TO IT AND THEY HAVE A PROJECT OF THIS
9:29:49PM MAGNITUDE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE PROUD TO BE A PART OF IT
9:29:52PM TO WANT TO LIVE THERE, COME VISIT THERE AND CHANGE THE
9:29:56PM MINDSET OF PEOPLE FROM SLUM AND BLIGHT, GIVE PEOPLE
9:30:00PM OPPORTUNITY.
9:30:00PM THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO ENVISION FOR ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
9:30:03PM I DON'T CARE WHAT COMMUNITY IT IS, TO BE INCLUSIVE OF
9:30:06PM EVERYONE, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE INCLUSIVE, I DON'T CARE IF YOU
9:30:10PM COME FROM THE PROJECTS, BUT IF YOU PULL SOMEBODY OUT OF
9:30:15PM THERE OR YOU GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY, IT'S UP TO THEM TO TAKE IT
9:30:19PM AND NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN MOST PEOPLE WANT THAT OPPORTUNITY,
9:30:22PM PERIOD.
9:30:23PM SO I'M GLAD WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD TEAM MEMBERS ON BAD.
9:30:27PM MS. TRAVIS, SHE'LL WATCH.
9:30:29PM MR. ROBINSON IS GETTING UP THERE, BUT I KNOW HE'LL WATCH IT.
9:30:32PM SANDY AND MS. DELPHINE.
9:30:37PM I'LL BE WATCHING.
9:30:37PM I'M STILL A LITTLE YOUNG.
9:30:40PM I HOPE WE AGAIN LOOK AT THE PROJECTS, ALL OF THEM IN THE
9:30:43PM FUTURE AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CULTURE AND ENVIRONMENT OF
9:30:45PM COMMUNITY TO MAKE THEM MOVE.
9:30:47PM WE THANK THE RELATED GROUP FOR THE PROJECT, FOR BEING IN
9:30:50PM TAMPA.
9:30:51PM WE KNOW HICCUPS IN THE BEGINNING, BUT SOMETIMES THINGS TO
9:30:57PM PAN ITSELF OUT.
9:30:58PM THANK YOU.
9:30:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:31:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: SINCE EVERYBODY ELSE IS MAKING STATEMENTS,
9:31:04PM I'LL MAKE A COUPLE.
9:31:06PM ONE, THANK YOU TO THE DEVELOPER FOR INVESTING IN THE ARTS
9:31:09PM AND MANY OF THE OTHER AMENITIES.
9:31:10PM THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT I DISCUSSED
9:31:18PM WITH LEGAL THAT I JUST WANT TO PUT OUT THERE FOR ANYBODY WHO
9:31:22PM IS WATCHING.
9:31:23PM NUMBER ONE, THE PUBLIC HAS CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE CITY
9:31:27PM CATEGORIZES AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:31:29PM CLEARLY 190% OF AMI IS NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:31:34PM THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER 140 IS.
9:31:38PM I WOULD SUGGEST IN THE FUTURE THIS IS A CITY THING, NOT THE
9:31:40PM DEVELOPER, BUT THAT WE BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT'S
9:31:47PM WORKFORCE HOUSING AND WHAT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:31:49PM I THINK STAFF HAS SAID THEY ARE DOING THAT BUT I WANT TO
9:31:53PM MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC A LOT THE
9:31:55PM LAST FEW MONTHS AND WE'VE HEARD CLEARLY THAT'S A CONCERN.
9:31:58PM THEY DON'T WANT THE CITY OR DEVELOPERS TO OVERCOUNT.
9:32:01PM NUMBER TWO, MY COLLEAGUE ALLUDED TO IT, BUT THERE WAS A LOT
9:32:04PM OF CONTROVERSY ABOUT THIS IN THE BEGINNING.
9:32:09PM TOILET TO TAP IS THE THING PEOPLE ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT.
9:32:12PM CRIME, HANNA AVENUE, BUT THIS IS FOURTH OR FIFTH, AND IT'S
9:32:16PM THE WAY THE RFP WAS DONE, NOT THE FAULT OF THE DEVELOPER,
9:32:19PM BUT JUST THE WAY THE CITY HANDLED THE RFP AND THE
9:32:22PM CONSULTANTS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN IT.
9:32:24PM I SPENT SOME TIME TALKING TO LEGAL, AND I JUST WANT TO -- I
9:32:28PM WANT TO TELL THE PUBLIC THAT THE DECISIONS ON THAT WERE MADE
9:32:31PM A YEAR AGO.
9:32:33PM EVEN IF I VOTED NO ON THIS, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THAT RFP
9:32:39PM PROCESS.
9:32:39PM WHATEVER SOMEBODY IN THE PUBLIC THINKS ABOUT THE RFP PROCESS
9:32:42PM FROM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THIS HAS NO BEARING ON IT.
9:32:46PM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT DESPITE CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC,
9:32:51PM I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE
9:32:55PM COMMUNITY AND THERE'S NO WAY TO GO BACK AND CHANGE WHATEVER
9:32:58PM HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
9:32:59PM THANK YOU.
9:33:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE MOVED TO CLOSE, I THINK.
9:33:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
9:33:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
9:33:07PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:33:12PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:33:14PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:33:16PM ANY OPPOSED?
9:33:16PM THE MOTION PASSES.
9:33:18PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:33:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:33:22PM ITEM 10, FILE REZ-22-132, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
9:33:27PM FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
9:33:28PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
9:33:31PM 2609 NORTH ROME AVENUE AND 2301 NORTH OREGON AVENUE IN THE
9:33:36PM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
9:33:38PM SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION NMU-35,
9:33:44PM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE-35, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ALL
9:33:48PM NMU-35 USES, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS, BUSINESS SCHOOL,
9:33:53PM VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
9:33:56PM AND THE REVISION, AND THE WAIVERS WILL BE ADDRESSED DURING
9:34:00PM THE SECOND READING, BEFORE WE DO THE SECOND READING PROCESS.
9:34:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:34:10PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:34:12PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
9:34:13PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
9:34:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
9:34:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:34:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
9:34:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
9:34:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
9:34:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
9:34:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
9:34:30PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
9:34:33PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 20th,
9:34:38PM 2023, AT 10:30 A.M.
9:34:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
9:34:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECOND READING.
9:34:45PM AGENDA ITEM 11, PH 23-80116.
9:35:00PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:35:03PM THIS IS A MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE AND RIVERWALK AGREEMENT.
9:35:05PM THIS IS REQUIRED BY THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
9:35:11PM THIS IS AN AGREEMENT THAT REQUIRES TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS
9:35:14PM BECAUSE IT'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT UNDER FLORIDA STATUTES,
9:35:17PM SO YOU WILL NOT BE ACTING ON IT TONIGHT.
9:35:19PM THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE I BELIEVE APRIL 20th.
9:35:23PM SO I DO WANT TO REMIND YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO ANNOUNCE THE
9:35:29PM DATE OF THE SECOND HEARING AT THIS HEARING AT THE END OF
9:35:32PM THIS.
9:35:32PM SO THIS AGREEMENT COVERS FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS, EXISTING
9:35:37PM INFRASTRUCTURE, UPGRADED AND NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, THE
9:35:40PM CONSTRUCTION OF THE RIVERWALK, MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS AND
9:35:44PM POTENTIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO CITY EASEMENTS.
9:35:46PM SO THIS OUTLINES THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL
9:35:51PM BE EITHER REMOVING, UPGRADING, REPAIRING, OR INSTRUCTING NEW
9:35:59PM INFRASTRUCTURE, ONE OF WHICH IS A NEW PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY
9:36:02PM THAT CONNECTS WILLOW AND OREGON, THAT GOES AROUND THE
9:36:08PM SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
9:36:12PM THIS ALSO SETS OUT MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS, AND IT ALSO
9:36:16PM INCLUDES THE PHASING AND TIMING PLAN AS EXHIBIT TWO.
9:36:19PM THE PHASING AND TIMING PLAN IS ALSO SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED BY
9:36:23PM THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
9:36:25PM SO EVEN THOUGH IT IS AN EXHIBIT TO THIS AGREEMENT, YOU WILL
9:36:28PM BE APPROVING IT AS AN EXHIBIT TO THIS AGREEMENT IF YOU
9:36:32PM APPROVE THE AGREEMENT.
9:36:33PM I WILL ALSO BE BRINGING THAT BACK SEPARATELY APRIL 20th SO
9:36:36PM THAT THERE IS A SEPARATE RESOLUTION APPROVING THAT IF YOU
9:36:41PM APPROVE IT.
9:36:41PM THE DEVELOPER IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:36:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
9:36:45PM NO QUESTIONS FOR EITHER.
9:36:52PM DOES ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WISH TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
9:36:58PM 11, FILE NUMBER PH 23-80116?
9:37:06PM >> JAKE CREMER FOR THE APPLICANT.
9:37:09PM 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, 2100.
9:37:12PM I WORKED WITH YOUR LEGAL STAFF.
9:37:13PM WE LOOKED AT TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S POINT EARLIER, WE
9:37:16PM LOOKED AT ALMOST ALL OF THE LARGE PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITY.
9:37:22PM MOST HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS LIKE THIS SO WE CAN FIGURE
9:37:24PM OUT THE LESSONS LEARNED, THE BEST OF WHAT THEY DID AND WE
9:37:27PM INCORPORATED THAT INTO THIS AGREEMENT.
9:37:29PM WE'D APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT TONIGHT.
9:37:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. ROBINSON, DID I SEE YOU GETTING UP?
9:37:36PM >> YES, THIS IS THE LAST TIME.
9:37:38PM THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
9:37:41PM THIS IS WHAT DRIVES -- THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND COMMENTS, MR.
9:37:46PM CARLSON.
9:37:46PM KIND COMMENTS.
9:37:47PM YOU'RE CORRECT.
9:37:48PM LISTEN, I'LL SAY THE SAME THING I SAID BEFORE BUT THIS IS
9:37:53PM THE ACTUAL THAT DRIVES IT.
9:37:55PM THIS WHOLE THICK DOCUMENT WITH ALL THE TECHNICAL TERMS,
9:37:58PM SIDEWALKS, HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT, OVERLAY, THEY
9:38:02PM GOT TO DEAL WITH ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:38:04PM AND THIS SITE IS UNIQUE BECAUSE THE CITY'S PIPING COMES
9:38:09PM UNDERNEATH IT AND YOU CAN'T MOVE IT.
9:38:12PM YOU CAN'T MOVE IT.
9:38:13PM THAT WAS DETERMINED EARLY ON.
9:38:16PM YOU'RE SEEING SOMETHING IS BEING DESIGNED, YOU HAVE THICK
9:38:20PM SPIKES AND YOU GOT TO DESIGN AROUND IT AND DOING A DECENT
9:38:24PM JOB.
9:38:24PM NOW WE ADDED THE RIVERWALK COMING THROUGH THAT OVER THERE
9:38:28PM WITH THE SOUL WALK AND ALL OF THAT.
9:38:30PM IT'S NOT A VERY SIMPLE PROJECT.
9:38:32PM IT'S COMPLEX, AND THIS MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE AGREEMENT SETS
9:38:36PM THE GROUNDWORK.
9:38:37PM SO WITH THAT, I ASK YOU TO ALSO APPROVE THAT AND BRING IT
9:38:41PM BACK FOR THE FINAL AND ALL THAT IN APRIL.
9:38:46PM THANK YOU.
9:38:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. FEELEY.
9:38:51PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT AND GIVE A
9:38:54PM SHOUT-OUT TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS COME TOGETHER AND WORKED ON
9:38:59PM THIS AGREEMENT.
9:38:59PM WE MET EVERY OTHER WEEK FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS.
9:39:02PM THE HEAD OF WATER, WASTEWATER, CHAD BAILEY, CAL HARDIE,
9:39:06PM MOBILITY, JEFF HILTON, SUSAN JOHNSON IN SUBDIVISION.
9:39:10PM JUST GETTING THIS TOGETHER.
9:39:11PM I KNOW YOU SAW THE PIPES UNDERNEATH.
9:39:14PM THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE BONES THAT MAKE A DEVELOPMENT WORK,
9:39:16PM AND WE ARE REALLY, REALLY BLESSED TO HAVE SUCH AN AWESOME
9:39:20PM CITY TEAM THAT WAS ABLE TO BRING THOSE THINGS TOGETHER AND
9:39:25PM GET THIS TO COME -- TO HAVE THE BONES UNDERNEATH WHAT YOU'RE
9:39:27PM GOING TO SEE COMING OUT OF THE GROUND.
9:39:29PM SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO THE TEAM IN
9:39:32PM HELPING OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS.
9:39:35PM I GUESS I WON'T SEE YOU NEXT WEDNESDAY MORNING, BUT THANK
9:39:38PM YOU VERY MUCH TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS WORKED ON THIS.
9:39:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
9:39:44PM MR. RANDOLPH.
9:39:46PM YOU'RE MUTED, MR. RANDOLPH.
9:39:52PM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:39:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR.
9:39:55PM >> I CANNOT OVEREMPHASIZE THIS WONDERFUL PROJECT THAT'S
9:40:03PM BEING PUT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
9:40:05PM WHEN PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, THEY ASSOCIATE IT WITH
9:40:10PM GENTRIFICATION.
9:40:10PM THIS PROJECT INTENTIONALLY EMBODIES BY DESIGN REDUCE THE
9:40:19PM LEVEL OF GENTRIFICATION IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:40:21PM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT GO TO BED AT NIGHT IN WEST TAMPA, IN
9:40:25PM POOR COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND WONDER WHETHER OR
9:40:29PM NOT THEY ARE GOING TO BE DISPLACED FROM THEIR COMMUNITY.
9:40:33PM WE THINK THIS SERVES AS A NATIONAL, THAT YOU CAN DO BOTH
9:40:40PM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND REDUCE GENTRIFICATION AT THE SAME
9:40:43PM TIME.
9:40:43PM AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.
9:40:46PM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF
9:40:51PM THE CHANGE IN WEST TAMPA.
9:40:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
9:40:55PM ANYONE ELSE?
9:40:58PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
9:40:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
9:41:02PM MANISCALCO.
9:41:02PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:41:04PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:41:05PM ANY OPPOSED?
9:41:06PM THE MOTION CARRIES.
9:41:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANNOUNCEMENT PLEASE BY THE CLERK FOR THE
9:41:10PM SECOND READING AND THE CONSIDERATION OF THE RESOLUTION,
9:41:14PM PLEASE.
9:41:19PM >>THE CLERK: SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL
9:41:22PM 20, 2023, AT 10:30 A.M.
9:41:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW
9:41:41PM BUSINESS.
9:41:42PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANYTHING?
9:41:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: I NEED TO RATIFY A COMMENDATION I GAVE TO
9:41:53PM SOARING SPRINGS INTERNATIONAL, A WIDOW SUPPORT GROUP LAST
9:41:57PM FRIDAY.
9:41:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:42:03PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:42:03PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
9:42:10PM HURTAK.
9:42:10PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:42:11PM ANY OPPOSED?
9:42:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE ALSO NATASHA PERRY AND ROSIE DELGADO
9:42:18PM ARE A PAIR, A MENTOR AND A MENTEE AND BEST BUDDIES, AND FOR
9:42:23PM FRIENDSHIP MONTH, I WANT TO GIVE THEM A COMMENDATION FOR 15
9:42:26PM YEARS OF MENTORSHIP THROUGH BEST BUDDIES ON MAY 4, IF I MAY.
9:42:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:42:33PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:42:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:42:34PM ANY OPPOSED?
9:42:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY, TO BE PRESENTED YOU HAVE A PREMISES
9:42:38PM COMMENDATION FOR VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA 787 ON THE
9:42:42PM 45th ANNIVERSARY.
9:42:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:42:45PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:42:47PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:42:47PM ANY OPPOSED?
9:42:49PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:42:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
9:42:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?
9:42:53PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
9:42:55PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:42:58PM I HAVE A MOTION, REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO
9:43:01PM CONTINUE TA/CPA 22-31 FROM THE ADOPTION AND PUBLIC HEARING
9:43:06PM SCHEDULE ON MAY 25, 2023, AT 5:01 P.M. TO JUNE 22, 2023 AT
9:43:11PM 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE
9:43:14PM CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE
9:43:16PM PUBLIC HEARING.
9:43:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
9:43:21PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:43:21PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:43:22PM ANY OPPOSED?
9:43:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM
9:43:25PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:43:26PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:43:27PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:43:28PM ALL RIGHT.
9:43:29PM WE'RE ADJOURNED.
9:43:30PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:43:31PM
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