Tampa City Council
Thursday, March 23, 2023
5:01 p.m.

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05:03:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GOOD EVENING, THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS BACK
IN SESSION ON THIS DAY FOR THE EVENING AGENDA ON MARCH 23,
2023.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
05:03:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
05:03:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
05:03:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
05:03:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
05:03:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
05:03:31PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:03:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS DOCK, YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THE
AGENDA RIGHT NOW.
05:03:38PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
YES, SIR, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CITRO, LaCHONE
DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA, THREE ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR,
ITEM NUMBER 3.
FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-23.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST 31.
05:03:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
UNTIL WHEN?
05:03:57PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
AUGUST 31.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTED AND SEPTEMBER IN A WRITTEN --
05:04:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
CHAIRMAN, SO MOVED TO OPEN THE PUBLIC
HEARING.
05:04:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BY
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OBJECTION?
MOTION CARRIES.
MS. DOCK.
05:04:16PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
REQUEST IS FOR AUGUST 31.
AN ALCOHOL NIGHT AND THE NIGHT YOU TYPICALLY HEAR COMP PLAN
APPLICATION.
05:04:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO MOVED.
05:04:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
05:04:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU.
05:04:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MISS DOCK, IF YOU CAN ANNOUNCE THAT JUST
AGAIN BECAUSE NO ADDITIONAL NOTICE, MY UNDERSTANDING.
ANNOUNCE THAT ITEM AGAIN, ITEM NUMBER --
05:04:43PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ITEM NUMBER FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-23, THE
REQUEST HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO AUGUST 31, 2023 AT 5:01P.
05:04:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
05:04:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION CARRIES.
05:04:57PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
NEXT ITEM, COUNCIL.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE.
FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-28.
THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL MAY 11.
05:05:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MAY 11.
I HAVE APRIL 21, MAY 11?
05:05:11PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
MAY 11.
05:05:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
05:05:13PM >> SECOND.
05:05:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
05:05:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU CAN ANNOUNCE THAT AGAIN, PLEASE.
05:05:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THAT IS FILE NUMBER CONTINUED TO MAY 11,
2023 AT 5:01.
05:05:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION CARRIES.
05:05:43PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
NEXT ITEM NUMBER SIX.
FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-31.
THE REQUEST IS TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL APRIL 27, 2023.
05:05:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
05:06:00PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
JUST TO REPEAT AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, NUMBER
FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-31.
THIS ITEM IS BEING CONTINUED UNTIL APRIL 27, 2023 AT 5:01
P.M. THAT CLEARS THE ONLY FOR THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
05:06:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
05:06:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR.
OBJECTION?
MOTION CARRIES.
FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, NUMBER ONE.
FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-26.
MR. BENTLEY, THIS HAS ONLY BEEN TWO WEEKS.
ANY NEW EVIDENCE YOU WANT TO PRESENT?
05:06:52PM >> I DO HAVE A FEW PHOTOS, OKAY.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF
SYNOPSIS.
ON THE 23rd PUBLIC HEARING WHICH WAS CONTINUED AT THE
SUGGESTION OF COUNCILMAN GUDES, WE CONVENED -- I INITIATED
AT THAT MEETING WITH CONCERNED RESIDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE MEETING WAS WELL ATTENDED.
WE RECEIVED VERY POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND ACTUALLY EMBRACED
INTO THE COMMUNITY.
WE ALSO RECEIVED SOME NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS,
PRIMARILY RELATED TO TRAFFIC AND PARKING.
I WAS NOT PERSONALLY IN ATTENDANCE, BUT RABBI MENDY WOULD
LIKE TO ENGAGE COUNCIL SINCE HE WAS ENGAGED IN THE MEETING
AND GIVE YOU THE PERSPECTIVE ON THINGS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
05:07:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WILL FIVE MINUTES BE ENOUGH FOR YOU.
05:07:38PM >> I THINK THE RABBI WILL TAKE TWO AND RYAN WANTED TO GO
OVER A COUPLE OF POINTS LIKE THE PHOTOS AND WE CAN WRAP IT
UP AND GET TO THE MERITS AND HAVE A VOTE, HOPEFULLY.
RABBI.
05:07:58PM >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL.
KNOW IT WAS NOT MY INITIAL THOUGHT TO HAVE A CONTINUANCE ON
OUR LAST MEETING.
I THINK IT WAS VERY VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY.
WE HAD A MEETING EXACTLY A WEEK AGO THIS EVENING.
NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE AT THE MEETING ARE PRESENT AS
WELL.
AND I WOULD SAY PROBABLY 30 -- 30 TO 40 PEOPLE FROM THE
COMMUNITY MET WITH MYSELF, RYAN, AND SOME OF THE OTHER
MEMBERS OF TEMPERATURE COMMUNITY ALSO WAS PRESENT AND A
GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, FIRST OF ALL, MEET THEM.
GET TO KNOW THEM A LITTLE BIT AND FOR THEM TO GET TO KNOW US,
OUR ORGANIZATION AND WHAT WE DO, AND IMPORTANTLY LEARN WHAT
THEIR CONCERNS ARE SPECIFICALLY DIRECTLY FROM THEM.
AND THEY HAD SOME VERY LEGITIMATE POINTS THEY PRESENTED.
YOU KNOW, WE TOOK THAT -- THOSE IDEAS.
WE HAD SOME WHAT WE SHARED THERE AT THE MEETING WITH
THEM.
AND THEN ALSO IDEAS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN BACK AND TALKED WITH
OUR TEAM AND OUR ORGANIZATION.
AND WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF BEING ABLE TO ADDRESS THEIR
CONCERNS.
AND WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO THAT EFFECTIVELY AND BE GOOD
STEWARDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOOD NEIGHBORS TO THEM.
AND THAT IS SOURCE GOAL ULTIMATELY.
SO I APPRECIATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO -- TO MEET WITH THEM.
I THANK YOU FOR THE ENCOURAGEMENT TO DO SO, AND HOPEFULLY, WE
CAN MOVE FORWARD AND REALLY ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND MAKE
SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS A PLACE TO CELEBRATE AND PARTICIPATE
AND ULTIMATELY FEEL SAFE AND WELCOMED WHICH IS ULTIMATELY
OUR GOAL AND THEIR GOAL AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
05:09:37PM >> NEXT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE DANNY COLLINS WITH THE
PLANNING COMMISSION.
I AM GOING TO HOLD RYAN AT ABEYANCE AND JUST HAVE DANNY
DESCRIBE THE NATURE OF THE NMU AND THE CATEGORY AND WHY IT
IS COMPATIBLE WITH THAT WEST SIDE OF ARMENIA, WHICH THERE IS
A PERCEPTION IS PRETTY PRISTINE RESIDENTIAL WHERE ACTUALLY A
LOT OF MIXED USE OFFICE AND NONRESIDENTIAL.
DANNY.
05:10:08PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
GOOD EVENING, DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
I WANT TO DIRECT YOU TO PAGE 9 OF OUR STAFF REPORT UNDER THE
SECOND PARAGRAPH UNDER STAFF ANALYSIS.
JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE-24
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
2015, THE CITY OF TAMPA, IN COOPERATION WITH THE PLANNING
COMMISSION, CREATED THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE CATEGORIES.
NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE-24 DESIGNATION IS LIMITED.
IT IS LIMITED TO THE CITY'S FORWARD GROWTH AREAS, WITH ONE
OF THEM BEING URBAN ELEVATION.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESCRIBES GROWTH AREAS
LOCATIONS WHERE TRANSIT -- TRANSIT IS AVAILABLE.
THIS SITE IS LOCATED ON NORTH ARMENIA AREA WHICH IS A
TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
IT IS ALSO A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR ARE OUR AREAS
IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN AS REDEVELOPMENT INTENSIFICATION.
THE SURROUNDING AREA IS UNIQUE.
CC-35 WHICH IS A -- ALLOWS COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES AND
COMMERCIAL GENERAL UP TO A 2.0 F.A.R. TO THE EAST OF THE
SITE.
FURTHER DOWN, YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35
DESIGNATION WHICH ALLOWS UP TO A 2.0 F.A.R.
ON THE EAST SIDE, YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL-20, WHICH THAT IS
WHAT THE SITE IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE-24 DESIGNATION ALLOW UP TO A
1.0 F.A.R.
ENCOURAGES A MIXTURE OF USES KIND OF WHAT IS INTENDED FOR --
OR THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WE WANT ON THOSE CORRIDORS.
IT WOULD ALLOW CONSIDERATION OF MULTIFAMILY.
SOME LIMITED COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD -- COMMERCIAL GENERAL
USES, AS WELL AS CN USES.
SO THAT IS KEEP OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE --
05:12:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ONE OF OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
A MAP UP AS YOU ARE SPEAKING ABOUT IT, PLEASE.
05:12:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS HARD TO VISUALIZE.
05:12:25PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
OF COURSE.
I WILL SHOW TWO MAPS TODAY.
THIS IS -- SO THIS IS AN AREA MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SKEET IS OUTLINED IN THE YELLOW
COLOR.
IT IS ALONG N. ARMENIA AVENUE.
DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE SITE IS THE FOUNDRY APARTMENTS.
A FIVE-STORY APARTMENT BUILDING.
AND ONE BLOCK SOUTHEAST OF THE SITE IS LAND THAT USED BY THE
STATE ARMORY BOARD OWNS IT.
A DESIGNATED CMU-35.
AND THEN YOU HAVE -- ON ARMENIA, YOU HAVE AN OFFICE DIRECTLY
TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
I THINK THERE ARE TWO OFFICES DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF THE
SUBJECT SITE AND VILA BROTHERS ONE BLOCK TO THE SOUTH OF
THE SITE.
HERE IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
SO -- SO, AS I WAS MENTIONING, THE CC-35 DESIGNATION.
DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE SHOWN IN THE RED
COLOR IS THE CMU-35 DESIGNATION.
JUST ON THE EAST SIDE OF ARMENIA, YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL-20
DESIGNATED PARCELS.
SO ESSENTIALLY WILL INCREASE THE DENSITY FROM 20 DWELLING
UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS BE CONSIDERED UNDER THE
RESIDENTIAL-20 DESIGNATION UP TO 24 UNITS PER ACRE WHICH IS
THE 24 MIXED USE DESIGNATION.
INCREASE THE F.A.R. TO POINT 5 UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-20 THAT
THE SITE WILL NEED TO MEET LOCATIONAL CRITERIA FOR THE
RESIDENTIAL-20 TO A 1.0 F.A.R. UNDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED
USE DESIGNATION.
AGAIN WE LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THIS IS ON.
ARMENIA AVENUE, A TRANSIT EMPHASIS CORRIDOR AND URBAN AREA
WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE DESIGNATION IS APPROPRIATE
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
05:14:48PM >> JUST TO WRAP IT UP, MR. CHAIRMAN -- THANKS A LOT, DANNY.
SINCE WE HAVE OPTED NOT TO INTRODUCE ANY ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE
INTO THE RECORD CONCERNING OUR CASE AND AS ALL PARTIES HAVE
RECEIVED DUE PROCESS AND NOTICE AND RIGHT TO PARTICIPATE AT
THIS POINT IN TIME, WE ARE REQUESTING THE CITY COUNCIL NOW
VOTE ON THE MERITS OF THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION, WHICH IS
SUPPORTED BY YOUR TWO PROFESSIONAL PLANNING STAFF.
LONG-RANGE PLANNING, CITY OF TAMPA, PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF THE UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL BY THE
PLANNING COMMISSION FINDING THE PROPOSED APPLICATION
CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE WERE PREPARED TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE PROJECT.
OBVIOUSLY WE ARE CONSTRAINED BY THE PROCESS HERE THAT WE
CAN'T GET INTO THE MERITS OF THOSE.
SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL ON THE APPLICATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL CERTAINLY TRY TO ANSWER
THEM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT.
05:15:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:15:46PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MR. BENTLEY AND THANK YOU, TEAM,
FOR AT LEAST GOING OUT TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS.
I AM SURE THEY APPRECIATED THE EFFORT TO GO BACK OUT AND
TALK WITH THEM.
THE MERITS OF THE CASE, WE CAN'T GO INTO THE SECOND PORTION.
WERE ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT GIVEN TO THE
RESIDENTS SO THEY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO
AND WHAT THE GOAL IS?
05:16:12PM >> THERE WAS AN EXPLANATION OF THE PROJECT, THE NEEDS FOR
CERTAIN COMPONENTS OF THE PROJECT.
WHAT WE DID, WE ASSEMBLED IT.
SEVERAL CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS WITH MULTIPLE PARTIES.
WE TOOK THE INFORMATION BACK AND RUN IT THROUGH OUR TEAMS,
ENGINEERS AND ETC., AS A RESULT WE CAME UP WITH SOMETHING
THAT WE THINK THE PROJECT WILL BE A LITTLE MORE PALATABLE TO
SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AND ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
MAYBE NOT IN TOTALITY, BUT SIGNIFICANTLY.
BUT HERE, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T MEAN TO TEASE YOU, BUT I
CAN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT STUFF, YOU KNOW.
05:16:49PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT IS WHY I ASK THE QUESTION.
THE STUFF YOU BROUGHT UP YOU TOOK IT BACK TO THEM --
05:16:54PM >> WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO, BUT WE WANTED TO -- THE
PURPOSE OF THE MEETING WASN'T NEGOTIATION.
IT WAS TO HAVE A MEETING OF THE MINDS, SHARE AND EXCHANGE
INFORMATION.
WE TOLD THEM ABOUT THE PROJECT.
THEY EXPRESSED THEIR CONCERNS LIKE I MENTIONED.
SOME PEOPLE WERE FLAT OUT IN SUPPORT.
THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT PROJECT.
I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
BUT WHAT WE ARE PREPARED TO DO IS TO PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL
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05:17:26PM >> THAT'S IT.
I DON'T WANT TO GET CATCALLED AGAIN.
THAT WAS ENOUGH.
05:17:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL BE TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT TO THIS
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 ONLY, PLEASE.
05:17:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY.
05:17:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SURELY.
05:17:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS STILL AT FIRST READING AND COUNCIL'S CUSTOM IF YOU
HAD SPOKEN OR WAIVED YOUR TIME AT THAT POINT, YOU WOULD HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO -- THANK YOU.
YOU WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK SHOULD IT MOVE TO
SECOND READING AND SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF YOU ARE -- I AM GOING TO MAKE A REQUEST -- I AM GOING
TO MAKE A REQUEST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON
ITEM NUMBER 1.
COULD YOU RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM
NUMBER 1?
OKAY.
THE REQUEST IS THIS.
IF YOU HAD SPOKEN AT THE FIRST HEARING -- EXCUSE ME, THE
FIRST PART OF THIS FIRST READING AND A CONTINUATION OF THAT,
WILL YOU PLEASE WHEN YOU STATE YOUR NAME, STATE YOU HAVE
PREVIOUSLY SPOKEN.
IF YOU HAD WAIVED YOUR TIME -- IF YOUR NAME WAS ON THE
SPEAKER WAIVER FORM FOR THE FIRST READING ON THE 9TH OF
MARCH, PLEASE SO STATE.
AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT, IF THAT IS THE
CASE.
IF YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN BEFORE, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AS THIS IS A CONTINUATION.
I SEE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM IN FRONT OF ME.
MISS SANCHEZ, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR NAMES.
ARE ANY OF THESE PEOPLE WHO AND ON THE FIRST READING?
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE?
YOU WOULD LIKE ONE OF THESE?
05:19:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:19:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MARTY, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL
SOMEBODY COMES UP TO DISCLOSE IF THEY SPOKE BEFORE.
WE SHOULD SET THE RULE OR THEY CAN OR CAN'T SPEAK.
WHAT IS THE SITUATION -- WHAT IS CITY COUNCIL'S RULE?
05:19:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT WILL BE FINE.
I WILL RELY ON THEM IF THEY HAVE SPOKEN AT THE FIRST
HEARING, THEY DO NOT SPEAK AT THE SECOND PART OF THE ABOUT
PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
BUT THERE ARE THOSE AT THE FIRST -- THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING
WHO HAVE WAIVED THEIR TIME ON THE SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
AND THE THING IS THAT THEY THEN JUST AS THOSE PEOPLE WHO
PREVIOUSLY HAVE SPOKEN ARE LIMITED TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE
REASON FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
AND, AGAIN, A REMINDER, COUNCIL, BECAUSE THIS IS A FUTURE
LAND USE MAP AMENDMENT, ISSUES OF REZONING ARE NOT RELEVANT
TO THIS CASE.
AND THAT IS NOT THIS ITEM.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONFINE YOUR COMMENTS TO THE
RELEVANT POINTS OF -- AND AMOUNT TO THE FUTURE AND WILL USE
MAP.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A GOOD SUGGESTION.
IF YOU PREVIOUSLY SPOKEN BEFORE, I STILL -- COUNCIL HAS LET
THEM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, BUT LIMITED TO THE SUBJECTS OF
THE CONTINUANCE.
05:20:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF SOMEBODY GETS UP WHO SPOKE BEFORE, THERE
A PENALTY IF THEY HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
WE NEED TO GIVE THEM CLEAR DIRECTION.
ARE THEY ALLOWED OR NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK?
05:20:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELL, DEPENDS ON WHAT COUNCIL WANTS TO DO.
THE ANSWER TRADITIONALLY HAS BEEN THAT THE ONLY SUBJECTS
THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK -- THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE
ABLE TO GIVE A FULL PRESENTATION.
THE GOAL IS TO NOT HAVE TO REPEAT THE SAME THING THAT WAS
SAID AT THE SAME PUBLIC HEARING WHICH WAS CONTINUED FROM
MARCH 9.
SO THE ANSWER IS, IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF
THE CONTINUANCE, THEY CAN.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK.
AGAIN WITH A -- WITH A -- A CASE LIKE THIS, IT GOES TO A
SECOND READING.
IF IT MOVES FORWARD AND THEY HAVE ANOTHER FULL OPPORTUNITY
TO PRESENT AT THAT TIME AS WELL.
SO THE ANSWER IS, I'M GOING TO READ THESE NAMES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMEMBERS?
YOU STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND?
OKAY, LET'S DO IT --
05:21:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
05:21:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU KNOW, I HATE THAT WHEN PEOPLE -- WE
HAVE RULES, BUT SOMETIMES WE MAKE PROVISIONS HERE AND THERE.
AND WE DO IT ALL THE TIME.
I HATE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THEIR TIME TO COME DOWN HERE.
IRREGARDLESS OF WHAT THIS COUNCIL MAY VOTE, FOR OR AGAINST.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE.
I DON'T MIND IF YOU LET THE PEOPLE SPEAK.
THEY ARE HERE.
THAT IS WHAT THIS -- THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE.
SO, AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ME TALKING.
WE HAVE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS HERE.
I AM ON MY WAY OUT THE DOOR AND I FEEL THE PEOPLE HAVE THE
RIGHT TO SPEAK.
05:22:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
COUNCIL HAS MADE ACCOMMODATIONS AND MR.
MIRANDA WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT.
I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
05:22:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IF I MAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MR. SHELBY, WE ARE GOING TO ALLOW THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK.
SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 ONLY.
IRREGARDLESS IF THEY HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE OR NOT.
YOU HAVE THE WAIVERS IN FRONT OF YOU.
05:22:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
THANK YOU.
05:22:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LET'S GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.
05:22:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
BY UNANIMOUS CONCEPT WE WILL GO FORWARD WITH THAT AND I WILL
CALL THESE NAMES AND AGAIN BEFORE I DO THAT, JUST A REMINDER
THAT MR. BENTLEY, THE APPLICANT -- THE APPLICANT'S
REPRESENTATIVE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WHEN THAT
TIME COMES.
JEROME ADCOCK.
BENITA DECOSTA.
MARK INPUT.
ADRIAN LARAMIE.
THANK YOU.
AND FOUR EXTRA MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
THAT SIMPLIFIES THINGS TREMENDOUSLY.
05:23:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS SANCHEZ.
05:23:31PM >> CAN I GET SOMEBODY TO GET THIS OVERHEAD TO WORK.
THE OVERHEAD YOU JUST SAW.
THIS IS THE OVERHEAD YOU JUST SAW THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU.
I WANT TO SHOW THAT IT ACTUALLY WORKS FOR US.
IT SHOULD BE WORKING FOR US.
ONLY ONE PARCEL, THE PARCEL IN QUESTION --
05:23:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DID YOU GIVE YOUR NAME.
05:24:01PM >> SANDRA SANCHEZ, 6th STREET.
I LIVE IN THE ARMORY GARDENS AND PRESIDENT OF THE ARMORY
GARDENS ASSOCIATION.
THE REASON I PUT THIS UP HERE, BECAUSE I WANT TO YOU SEE
NOTHING ON THE WEST SIDE OF ARMENIA THAT TAKES IN THIS KIND
OF, I GUESS, MASS BUILDING THAT TAKES UP A LOT OF SPACE.
I KNOW I CAN'T SAY TOO MUCH.
BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
THIS DISCUSSION AND REPORT IS ABOUT THE MEETING MARCH 16
BETWEEN NEIGHBORS IN AND AROUND ARMORY GARDENS AND THE
APPLICANT.
EVEN THOUGH I SENT YOU MINUTES FROM THE MEETING, I HAVE MY
OWN NOTES I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE.
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE FOLKS FROM THE ARMORY
GARDENS COMMUNITY THAT ATTENDED THE MEETING ON THE EVENING
OF MARCH 16 AND THE OTHER EIGHT COMMUNITIES THAT SENT
REPRESENTATIVES.
NORTH HYDE PARK, MIDTOWN, OAKLAND PARK, McFARLAND PARK, WEST
RIVER, DAVIS ISLAND, VIRGINIA PARK AND GANDY.
THEY ARE ALSO HERE TONIGHT.
DURING THE MEETING, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT SHOULD THIS TEXT
AMENDMENT GO FORWARD, IT WILL NOT ONLY AFFECT THE ARMORY
GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD BUT SET A PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE
DEVELOPMENT WITHIN ARMORY GARDENS AND ORGANIZED OR STABLE
COMMUNITY OTHERWISE KNOWN AS AN URBAN VILLAGE.
THE ROBUST CONVERSATION AT THE MEETING INCLUDING VIEWS THAT
THIS AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES NOT ENHANCE
THE ARMORY GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT DESTROYS IT.
THE ARMORY GARDEN COMMUNITY -- EXCUSE ME, URBAN VILLAGE HAS
ALL THE AMENITIES LISTED IN THE GOALS AND PRINCIPLES OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITHIN ONE MILE.
MEETING PLACES, PARKS, RETAIL, GROCERIES, TAMPA GENERAL,
OUTPATIENT, DOCTOR OFFICES, LIGHT VETERINARIAN, ALESSI,
ROLLING OATS, FOOD STORES, NAIL SALONS, HIGH DENSITY
RESIDENTIAL AND THE MULTIFAMILY HOUSING.
WHICH GOES TO SHOW YOU THAT WE ARE A VIOLENT COMMUNITY.
AND OF THIS LAND USE CHANGE IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING TO
HELP US.
DURING THE DISCUSSION, IT WAS BROUGHT OUT THAT THE TEXT
AMENDMENT IS A BONUS TO ONLY ONE ENTITY, THE APPLICANT.
CHANGING FROM R-20 TO NMU-24 DOUBLES THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND
INCREASES THE DENSITY ALLOTTED PREVIOUSLY.
DOES NOT PROCEED COMPREHENSIVE GOALS SUCH AS RECOGNIZE
REGENCY, PUBLIC MEETING PLEAS, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL OR
EMPLOYMENT.
THE GROUP WAS WAITING TO HEAR THE BENEFITS.
THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
AT THE MEETING, THIS TEXT AMENDMENT IS PASSED, IT CHANGES
THE LAND USE PERMANENTLY.
IT STAYS WITH THE LAND.
IF THE APPLICANT DECIDES NOT TO ENDANGER HIS CONGREGATION
AND THE ARMORY GARDENS COMMUNITY BY NOT BUILDING THIS SITE,
THE LAND USE STAYS.
THE CHANGE MAKES THE PROPERTY MORE VALUABLE FOR RESALE.
THE CHANGE IS PERMANENT.
WHY CHANGE THE COMP PLAN FOR ONE SMALL PARCEL OF LAND THAT
BRINGS DANGERS TO THE APPLICANT'S FOLLOWERS.
A NEIGHBOR SAID IT WILL CHANGE PROPERTY VALUES AND ADD CHAOS
TO THE COMMUNITY.
OVER AND OVER AGAIN THE QUESTIONS WERE THE SAME AND WENT
UNANSWERED.
THE APPLICANT SAID HE WAS NOT IN ANY NEGOTIATIONS TO CREATE
ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD BROUGHT UP.
ONE IN PARTICULAR WHICH I CANNOT SAY.
THE GROUP AGREED THAT CHANGES IN THE TEXT AMENDMENT WOULD
NOT ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY AND DISRUPTED.
THE OPINION WAS VOICED THROUGHOUT THE MEETING.
NOBODY AGREED WITH THE APPLICANT.
WHY WOULD YOU PENALIZE A COMMUNITY OF 762 HOMES BY VOTING
FOR A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT DOES NOT TAKE LOCATION, SAFETY,
AND HUMANITY INTO THE CONSIDERATION AND HELPS ONE AND
IGNORES THE OTHER OF THE MANY.
PLEASE DENY THIS AMENDMENT.
[APPLAUSE]
[GAVEL SOUNDING]
05:28:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TWO NAMES.
MISSY MARTIN.
05:28:17PM >> I HAVE THREE.
OH, I SEE A THIRD ONE.
OKAY.
AND ANDY LAWRENCE.
AND IS IT CARMEN VEGA?
OKAY, THANK YOU.
THREE PLUS THREE.
SIX.
05:28:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM.
05:28:39PM >> DEBBIE ZABERMAN.
DO I HAVE TO -- DEBBIE ZABERMAN.
I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON MISS SANCHEZ'S COMMENTS.
AM I -- THE MAP IS NOT SHOWING.
AND WHAT I AM -- THE COMMENTS I'M GOING TO MAKE.
THE BIG COMMENT IS THAT THERE IS AN ENTIRE EXCEPTION IN YOUR
COMP PLAN THAT IS THE LEGAL STATUS FOR THE COMP PLAN.
IN THAT -- IN THAT COMP PLAN, IT HAS AN AREA THAT SAYS A.M.
TO ADOPT A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IN THERE -- THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS, WORDS FROM THE PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REPRESENTS APPLICATION OF ANY ASPECT OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REPRESENTS A MAJOR POLICY DECISION BY THE
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
AN AMENDMENT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IN PARTICULAR IS A
DECLARATION THAT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN INITIALLY
SOUGHT BY THE CITY IN A TECH LOCATION THROUGH THOUGHTFUL
ADOPTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NO LONGER APPROPRIATE.
AS SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCES SURROUNDING THE
SUITABILITY OF A PROPERTY IN THE PARTICULAR AREA FOR THE
KIND OF DEVELOPMENT INTENDED FROM THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN WHICH WAS NOT CONTEMPLATED AT THE TIME -- AT THE TIME
OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS ADOPTED MADE -- MAY JUSTIFY
RECONSIDERATION OF THE LAND USE CATEGORY OF WHICH THE AREA
HAS BEEN PLACED IN THE MAP.
FUTURE LAND USE MAP CHANGES NOT FUNCTIONALLY RELATED TO THE
OVERALL PURPOSES OF THE.
THAT IN THE POLICY CONTAINED HERE IN WILL SERIOUSLY
UNDERMINE THE INTEGRITY OF THE MAP AND OTHER PROVISIONS
WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF.
WHAT IS LACKING FROM THIS APPLICATION IS THE BIG PICTURE
JUSTIFICATION WHY A VERY SMALL SIDE, APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER
OF AN ACRE, I RECALL, IS BECOMING THE CATALYST FOR THIS
CHANGE IN AN AREA THAT IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THIS IS
RESIDENTIAL.
IT IS VERY CLEAR ON THE MAP.
OTHER DIRECTION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
HOW THESE MAPS ARE THE PICTURE OF WHAT THESE INTENTS ARE.
THIS IS RESIDENTIAL.
WHAT HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED WHEN THEY ARE ADDRESSING TO THE
EAST OF THE SITE, THIS IS A CRA.
THE CRA IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
AND THE FACT THAT IT IS A CRA IS ACTUALLY IN THE REPORT BY
THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
ABOUT STEVEN BENSON AND SUBMITTED TO DANNY COLLINS.
AND THE RELEVANT POLICIES AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS IN THIS
REPORT SAYS THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTSIDE BUT IMMEDIATELY
ADJACENT TO THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
WE KNOW IT IS A REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
THERE ARE NO OTHER -- THERE ARE NO OTHER PARCELS WITHIN THE
PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION ADJACENT TO THE SITE.
THE NEAREST THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE AND I CAN SKIP THAT.
THE LAST SENTENCE THIS PROPOSAL WILL ADD THE POTENTIAL OF
ADDITIONAL DENSITY AND COMMERCIAL USES TO A RESIDENTIAL
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED COMMERCIAL USES ON THE WEST SIDE
OF THE STREET.
NONE OF THEM ARE AS INTENSE WHAT IS ON THE CRA SIDE, AND
THESE COMMERCIAL USES ARE ALLOWED IN THIS DISTRICT.
IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
SO THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT YOU ARE WANTING SOMETHING TWICE AS
BIG THAN WHAT IS PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED AND THAT HAS BEEN
ADDRESSED IN PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS.
SO I WON'T HIT IT AGAIN.
I SENT FOUR E-MAILS, I BELIEVE, TO ALL -- I SENT IT TO THE
QUASI BOX AND CITY COUNCIL.
I THINK I PROVIDED DETAIL BECAUSE WE WERE INSTRUCTED THAT WE
CAN'T SPEAK WITH OUR CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
THAT WE HAVE TO PUT ITEMS IN WRITING WHICH A DISCUSSION WILL
BE A MUCH EASIER WAY TO CONVEY THE INFORMATION VERSUS KIND
OF PULLING OUT THE RABBIT FROM THE HAT AND ASSUMING THAT I
KNOW WHAT QUESTIONS YOU WOULD ASKED.
SO I TRIED TO ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT I THOUGHT YOU WOULD
ASK.
THEY WEREN'T ON POINT, MY APOLOGIES.
WHAT I DID DO -- BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT -- I
CREATED A MOTION HELPER FOR THIS ITEM.
AND I THOUGHT I BROUGHT IT UP HERE.
WITHIN MY MOTION HELPER, I ADDRESS THE LACK OF JUSTIFICATION
FOR THE AMENDMENT APPLICATION.
I ADDRESS TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CONFLICTS,
INCONSISTENCIES OR DEFICIENCIES.
AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU MAKE -- YOU CONSIDER
THOSE ITEMS AND ALSO, I WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THIS
IS REALLY CONFUSING TOO.
THE ONLY JUSTIFICATION I COULD FIND FOR THIS REQUEST --
AND IT WAS IN THE APPLICANT'S APPLICATION, THE
APPLICATION SPECIFICALLY SAYS "JUSTIFICATION FOR PROPOSED
MAP TEXT AMENDMENT IE, INFRASTRUCTURE, SUPPORTING
STRUCTURES, TRANSIT ABILITY, ETC.
THE RESPONSE PD REZONING WILL BE FOLLOWED BY CITY COUNCIL.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS ANYTHING CLOSE TO A JUSTIFICATION
THAT MEETS THE LEVEL OF POLICY OR CHANGE OF CIRCUMSTANCE
THAT IS CONTEMPLATED FOR A MAJOR DECISION.
THE ONLY REASON THIS IS BEING DONE IS FOR A PD REZONING.
FOR A VERY SMALL SITE.
AND WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT PD REZONING?
BECAUSE IT IS IN THE STAFF REPORT FROM THE PLANNING COUNCIL.
IT WAS DISCUSSED NUMEROUS TEAMS BY THE APPLICANT IN THE
ORIGINAL MEETING.
IF THERE ARE OTHER JUSTIFICATIONS, POTENTIALLY THE APPLICANT
WHEN THEY HAVE THEIR REBUTTAL THEY CAN SAY WHERE THAT IS IN
THE RECORD AND HOW IT WAS CONVEYED TO YOU BECAUSE I DON'T
KNOW WHAT IT IS OTHER THAN THE PD ON AN AREA BEING JUSTIFIED
BY A CRA ON THE OTHER SEED.
THESE ARE TWO TOTALLY DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT CONCEPTS.
TOP UNDERMINE IN SIDE WITH A CONCEPT THAT WASN'T EVEN
CONTEMPLATED, YOU HAVE TO REALLY ASK, DOES THIS REALLY
COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF THE CODE.
AND IF IT HAPPENS HERE, WHY CAN'T IT HAPPEN ANYWHERE ELSE.
I MEAN, ARE WE GOING TO START REZONING OUR ENTIRE CITY LOT
BY LOT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
05:34:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
[GAVEL SOUNDING]
05:34:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE, IF YOU CAN HOLD YOUR APPLAUSE,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
I WILL GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
WILL BENNETT IS HERE WITH TWO NAMES.
GONSALO MARTINEZ.
PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE.
05:35:17PM >> YES, I'M HERE.
05:35:18PM >> AND MIKE PENCE.
TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE.
05:35:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS BENNETT.
05:35:40PM >> I WAS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL HE HANDED THOSE THINGS OUT FOR
YOU ALL.
HI, MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
I DIDN'T ATTEND THE LAST HEARING, BUT I WATCHED IT.
YOU WERE RIGHT TO BE CONCERNED OF APPROVING A CHANGE IN LAND
USE IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL BE BUILT.
THE DILEMMA YOU FACE IS WHY THE COMP PLAN SAYS, AND I QUOTE,
"AMENDMENT OF ANY ASPECT OF THE COMP PLAN REPRESENTS A MAJOR
POLICY DECISION BY THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
AN AMENDMENT OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP, IN PARTICULAR, IS A
DECLARATION THAT THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
INITIALLY SOUGHT BY THE CITY IN A TECH LOCATION THROUGH
THOUGHTFUL ADOPTION THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NO
LONGER 'APPROPRIATE."
I CANNOT EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH.
YOU SHOULD NOT APPROVE A CHANGE IN LAND USE IF YOU DON'T
KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD.
THE REALITY IS, EVEN IF YOU APPROVE A SITE PLAN, YOU DON'T
KNOW THEY WILL BUILD IT.
BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD THE APPROVED PD.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD ANYTHING.
THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY DONE EXACTLY THAT.
THE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN 2013 AND GOT A PD APPROVED IN 2013
AND THEN THEY BUILT NOTHING.
IN 2018, THEY STARTED THE PROCESS AND TOLD THEY NEEDED SOME
THINGS LIKE SPRINKLERS, FIRE SAFE OPENINGS NEAR THE STAIRS,
ETC.
BUT THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THROUGH AND ALMOST TEN YEARS LATER,
THE LOT IS STILL EMPTY.
NOT ONLY IS THERE NO REQUIREMENT TO BUILD THE APPROVED SIN
GOING, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD A RELIGIOUS BUILDING AT
ALL.
THERE ARE FOUR PAGES -- I JUST GAVE THEM TO YOU -- FOUR
PAGES OF OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE BUILT UNDER NMU-24 THEY
CAN SCRAP THEIR CURRENT PLAN AND BUILD ANYTHING ON THOSE
FOUR PAGES.
THIS LAND USE CHANGE DOUBLES THE STRUCTURE SIZE FROM 6,000
TO 12,000 SQUARE FEET AND BUILD TWICE AS MUCH OF ANYTHING ON
THOSE FOUR PAGES.
ANYTHING OF THAT MEGA SIZE WILL RESULT IN STREET PARKING ON
ROADS THAT ARE ONLY 17 OR 18 FEET WIDE IN THIS OLD
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ALL KNOW THAT SOMETHING THAT BIG ON A LOT THIS SMALL WILL
RESULT IN PARKING IN PEOPLE'S YARDS AND BLOCKING OF THE
STREETS AND DRIVEWAYS.
IT IS INEVITABLE.
SINCE THIS CHANGE OF LAND USE IS PERMANENT AND RUNS WITH THE
LAND, THIS HE CAN GO AROUND AND SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE.
AND THE NEW OWNERS CAN BUILD 12,000 SQUARE FEET OF ANYTHING
ON THOSE FOUR PAGES.
A LOT OF ON LINES ARTICLES OF MAKING PROFITS THROUGH
REZONING.
IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT ALL THE BUILDERS MAKE BIG PROFITS, THE
BIGGEST WINDFALLS TO PROPERTY OWNERS WHO GET CHANGES IN LAND
USE AND MAKE A KILLING.
ARTICLES GIVE EXAMPLES OF PROPERTY VALUES DOUBLING, TRIPLING
AND QUADRUPLING THROUGH A CHANGE IN LAND USE AND REZONING.
THIS EXCERPT FROM ONE ARTICLE SUMS IT UP.
THE IDEA IS TO GET A PROPERTY AND GET A NEW ZONING
EVALUATION.
IF YOU CAN GET THE ZONING CHANGE, YOU CAN RESELL THE
PROPERTY FOR A PROFIT.
THEY HAVE A PD FOR A 56-SEAT SYNAGOGUE THAT REQUIRES 20
PARKING SPACES WHICH WERE EASILY PROVIDED BECAUSE THE
BUILDING WAS ONLY 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
I BELIEVE THE REASON THEY TONIGHT WANT THIS PLAN ANYMORE
BECAUSE TEN YEARS LATER, THEY OUTGROWN IT.
PRESIDENT COMMUNITY MEETING, THE RABBI SAID THEY LOOKED AT
BUYING LOTS OF PROPERTIES INCLUDING THE LETTER CARRIER HALL
WHICH YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH.
CURRENTLY AT THEIR CURRENT LOCATION, THEY HAVE 32 PARKING
SPACES.
I BELIEVE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR LARGER PROPERTIES BECAUSE THE
TEN-YEAR-OLD PD FOR RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY IS INADEQUATE FOR
THEIR CURRENT NEEDS.
THREE OPTIONS.
BUILD A PD.
TWO, GET THE LAND USE CHANGE AND BUILD SOMETHING TWICE AS
BIG THAT WILL CREATE A PARKING AND TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE FOR THE
CONGREGATION.
THREE, CHANGE THE LAND USE AND SELL IT TO A BIG PROFIT
SOMEBODY WHO WILL BUILD 12,000 SQUARE FEET OF GOD KNOW'S
WHAT AND CREATE A TRAFFIC AND PARKING NIGHTMARE.
ONLY OPTION ONE WITH NO LAND USE CHANGE IS RIGHT FOR THIS
COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
05:39:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, CAN WE -- PLEASE HOLD
OUR APPLAUSE.
05:39:58PM >> HELLO.
MY NAME IS CYNTHIA MALONEY.
AND I DON'T LIVE IN ARMORY GARDENS.
I AM IN NORTH HYDE PARK COMMUNITY.
I AM ON THE BOARD OF THE NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION
AND I AM REPRESENTING THE BOARD.
WE DISCUSSED THIS MATTER AT OUR BOARD MEETING LAST NIGHT.
WE ATTENDED THE MEETING REFERRED TO EARLIER.
AND I WANT TO THANK THE RABBI FOR COMING AND TALKING TO US.
IT WAS NICE THAT HE SHOWED UP AND DID TALK TO THE COMMUNITY,
BUT I WANT TO CLEAR UP ANY MISCONCEPTION THAT YOU MAY HAVE
ABOUT THE ATTITUDE OF THE PEOPLE WHO ATTENDED THE MEETING.
WE WERE IN FAVOR OF THE IDEA OF A DAY CARE IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE ARE NONE OF US IN FAVOR OF THE PARKING AND THE -- THE
COMPLETELY NEBULOUS KIND OF DESCRIPTION THAT WE WERE AGAIN.
WE WERE NOT TOLD -- WE HAD MANY QUESTIONS AND NO ANSWERS.
NO SPECIFIC ANSWERS.
HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE YOU ANTICIPATING?
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU GOING TO EXPECT TO BE COMING TO YOUR
PUBLIC EVENTS?
WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK?
NONE OF THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.
FOR THAT REASON, OUR FEELING AS THE NORTH HYDE PARK
COMMUNITY HERE IN SUPPORT OF ARMORY GARDENS IS THAT YOU
SHOULD PLEASE DENY THIS REQUEST.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:41:25PM >> DON'T USE THEM ALL BUT GOOD TO HAVE THEM.
I AM JEFFREY BALL, THE PRESIDENT OF ARMORY GARDENS CIVIC
ASSOCIATION AND I LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TEN YEARS.
ACTUALLY LIVED IN TWO DIFFERENT HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LOVED IT SO MUCH, I WENT AND UPGRADED MY FAMILY AND MOVED
CLOSER TO THE PARK.
YOU ARE AWARE OF THE PARK BEING OUR NEIGHBOR TOO.
CAME OUT HERE TODAY IN OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED ZONING FOR
SOME GREAT LEGAL AND SPECIFICS ON SOME OF THOSE ASPECTS, BUT
KIND OF JUST FROM -- HEARING FROM RESIDENTS, SPECIFICALLY AT
THE MEETING AND OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAD, THEY HE CAN
DOE SOME OF OUR MAJOR CONCERNS AROUND WHAT ADDITIONAL
DENSITY WILL DO AND BRING TO WHAT YOU SAW IS A NEW CORRIDOR
THAT CURRENTLY IS ALL RESIDENTIAL OR RESIDENTIAL OFFICE USE.
AND A LOT OF CONCERN FROM ME PERSONALLY AS I USED TO LIVE
NEAR -- I CAN SEE WHAT HIGH INTENSITY CAN DO WHEN IT PLEAD
INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOW I LIVE CLOSE TO VILA BROTHERS
PARK AND THIS SITE, AND I APPRECIATE -- THE RABBI HAS A
GREAT VISION AND IT SOUNDED RIGHT AND BRINGS A LOT OF VALUE
TO THE TAMPA BAY AREA, BUT IT IS GOING TO HAVE MORE OF A
NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OUR RESIDENCES AND OUR STREETS FROM A
SAFETY AND SECURITY PERSPECTIVE.
YOU KNOW, OVERALL, JUST WANT TO SHEAR THAT OUR COMMUNITY, WE
WANTED TO HEAR OUT WHAT WAS PROPOSED THERE.
OPEN TO UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE WHOLE VISION WAS, THE NEW
VISION WAS, HOW IT DO BE CONTINUE TO.
THROW OUT SOME IDEAS THAT MIGHT HAVE HELPED, BUT I DON'T
THINK THE VISION OR WHAT WAS SAID BEFORE, THE GROWTH OF THIS
CONGREGATION AND THE SITE IS STILL, YOU KNOW, SAME SIZED
SITE AS 2013 WILL ALLOW HIS VISION TO TAKE PLACE IN OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD WITHOUT HAVING SIGNIFICANT DETRIMENT TO OUR
RESIDENTS.
I THINK KIND COUNTY OF THE MAIN POINTS I WANTED TO MAKE.
WE ASK THAT YOU DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE REZONING BASED ON
THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES AND THE CLEAR LEGAL LANGUAGE
THAT CALLS TO LIGHT THIS IS A MAJOR OVERHAUL BOTH FROM THE
PLAN PERSPECTIVE AND OUR PERSPECTIVE FROM RESIDENTS OF THAT
NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK YOU.
05:44:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
05:44:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MISS RICHIE HAS TWO NAMES.
KATE KETEL AND KYLE SHEPHERD.
THANK YOU.
TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
TOTAL OF TV.
05:44:28PM >> HI, MY NAME IS ABBY RICHIE.
I LIVE IN ARMORY GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO.
I AM ON NORTH GOMEZ AVENUE BETWEEN NORTH A AND NORTH B.
I WANTED TO START OFF BY SAYING PUBLIC SPEAKING IS NOT
MY THING.
BEAR WITH ME.
I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE.
BUT I AM TALKING TODAY BECAUSE I WANTED TO SHARE WHY I AM
AGAINST THIS CHANGE TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT WILL RESULT IN MORE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ISSUES IN THE
COMMUNITY.
AND BEFORE I EVEN SHARE THE STORY THAT I HAVE, I ALSO WANTED
TO BRIEFLY MENTION THAT EVEN BEFORE WHAT HAPPENED TO MY SON,
YOU KNOW, MY FAMILY USED TO GO ON -- ON NEIGHBORHOOD WALKS
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE TIME.
AND WE STOPPED DOING THAT BECAUSE FRANKLY IT WAS JUST TOO
STRESSFUL TO WORRY ABOUT KEEPING OUR KIDS YOU SAFE FROM ALL
THE CARS DRIVING.
HOWEVER MY PERSONAL STORY IS THAT -- WHY I'M SO OPPOSED TO
THIS.
INCREASE TRAFFIC THROUGH OUR STREETS.
AND WHAT HAPPENED TO ME HAPPENED JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO.
MY SON ON DECEMBER 18, MY FOUR-YEAR-OLD DONE, BECKETT, WAS
HIT BY A CAR IN A HIT-AND-RUN.
HE WAS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
HE WAS HIT BY SOMEONE WHO DOES NOT LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY WERE CUTTING THROUGH ON GOMEZ.
HE WAS STRIVING TOO FAST AND HIT MY SON, THE FRONT OF HIS
CAR.
BECKETT WAS THROWN 30 FEET.
WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY MEASURED THE DISTANCE.
AND LANDED IN OUR DRIVEWAY.
I WITNESSED THE ENTIRE THING.
WHEN I RAN UP TO HIM AND SCOOPED HIM UP OFF THE DRIVEWAY, I
WAS CERTAIN THAT HIS SKULL WAS OPEN.
HIS BRAIN EXPOSED.
I ACTUALLY DO KNOW A FAIR AMOUNT ABOUT HEAD INJURY AS WELL.
AND BASED ON WHAT I SAW AND THE AMOUNT OF BLOOD THAT I SAW
IT WAS TERRIFYING.
IT -- BECKETT HAD ENDED UP UNDERNEATH THAT CAR HE COULD HAVE
WELL COULD HAVE DIED.
IF I COULD ALSO TALK A LOT LONGER FOR THE LONG-TERM
IMPLICATIONS FOR BECKETT AND OUR FAMILY AND ALL OF THAT AS
WELL.
BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO GUYS TO UNDERSTAND THAT OBVIOUSLY I
DON'T SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
YOU KNOW, THE -- THE COMMUNITY OF FAMILIES THAT WE HAVE IS
ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH TOO MANY TRAFFIC ISSUES.
PARKING ISSUES.
WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE.
ONE LAST THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION.
LAST WEEK WHEN WE MET WITH THE RABBI, HE MENTIONED THAT --
YOU KNOW, HE HAD TRUST THAT THE PEOPLE GOING -- WOULD DO THE
RIGHT THING WITH REGARD TO RESPONSIBLE PARKING AND DRIVING
IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
DESPITE NOT HAVING ENOUGH PARKING SPACES FOR THEMSELVES.
WHILE I WOULD LOVE TO BELIEVE AND BE CONFIDENT THAT PEOPLE
ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING ALL OF THE TIME, THAT IS JUST NOT
THE REALITY.
GOOD RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE CAN DO DANGEROUS THINGS AND
ACCIDENTS CAN HAPPEN.
I REALLY DOUBT THAT THE GUY THAT HIT MY SON WOKE UP PLANNING
TO HIT A FOUR-YEAR-OLD.
05:47:35PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
JACK ROSS, CITY OF TAMPA.
449 SOUTH 12th STREET.
I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT.
BY UNDERSTAND FROM THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME UP BEFORE AND
WHAT YOU ARE NOW CONSIDERING IS THE CONTINUITY AND
CONSISTENCY OF COMMUNITY.
IT IS IMPORTANT THOUGH TO CONSIDER THAT NOT IN THE VACUUM OF
WHO THE APPLICANT IS, THERE IS NOTHING MORE COMMUNAL THAN TO
HAVE MUCH ASSOCIATION.
BY KNOW THAT IS MY SUBJECTIVE ANALYSIS, BUT THEY ARE A
GLOBAL ORGANIZATION AND EXIST IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND URBAN
AREAS AND RURAL AREAS, AND THEY BRING COMMUNITY.
IN EVERY SENSE OF WHAT COMMUNITY MEANS.
IN ADDITION, THE ORGANIZATION AND MENDY HIMSELF IS A PART OF
THE JJC FEDERATION AT THE GLAZER OF JCC.
THEIR RECEPTION OF CONSTITUENTS IN THEIR COMMUNITY, THEY
DON'T MAKE ANY QUALMS ABOUT RACE AND GENDER AND ETC.
IT IS TRULY A BUILDING BLOCK OF COMMUNITY AND I DON'T THINK
ANYTHING MORE CONSISTENT THAN WHAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING
TONIGHT AND I ASK THAT YOU APPROVE THE APPLICATION.
THANK YOU.
05:48:56PM >> GOOD EVENING, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
DELORES SIMINIT.
I AM A RESIDENT OF TAMPA MY FAMILY ARE FLORIDIANS.
I WAS BORN IN NEW YORK BECAUSE MY PARENTS CAME TO NEW YORK
AT A TIME AFTER WORLD WAR II WHEN THERE WERE MANY JOBS, BUT
THEY CAME BACK TO FLORIDA IN THE 1980s.
I STAYED.
WENT TO SCHOOL.
AND I AM BACK.
I RETIRED AFTER 40 -- ALMOST 20 YEARS IN MEDICINE, AND I
RETIRED AND CAME BACK TO FLORIDA.
WHY DID I CHOOSE TAMPA?
I WAS NOT GOING TO CHOOSE TAMPA.
I WAS GOING TO NORTHERN FLORIDA.
BUT I HAVE BEEN IN IT THE -- IN JUDAISM FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
AND I WENT TO VARIOUS SYNAGOGUES.
AND I CAME TO RABBI MENDY'S SYNAGOGUE AND I SAID, YES.
WHY WAS THIS?
IN NEW YORK, I -- I HAD OPPORTUNITIES OF LIVING IN VERY NICE
PLACES, BUT ME ALONE, GOING TO APPLY, THERE WAS QUESTIONS.
OH, IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOING TO CHANGE?
BUT WHAT DID I DO?
I EMBRACED THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I BECAME A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE POINT WHERE
SOMETIMES WHEN I RENTED, THEY WOULD NOT INCREASE MY
REPRESENT OR DECREASE MY RENT BECAUSE I BECAME A PART OF THE
COMMUNITY.
SO WHEN I CAME DOWN AND I CAME TO THIS PARTICULAR SYNAGOGUE,
I WAS WELCOMED.
DOES THAT MEAN EVERY PLACE I GO I AM WELCOMED?
ABSOLUTELY NOT, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
I WAS WELCOMED AND I CHOSE TAMPA AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU
GO INTO A COMMUNITY, YOU HEAR.
YOU HAVE TO LISTEN.
YOU HAVE TO RESPECT.
AND YOU HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE.
YOU MUST BE.
AND I HEAR ABOUT THE MOVEMENT AND THE TRAFFIC, AND I KNOW
HOW NARROW THE STREETS ARE.
SO YOU MAKE PROVISIONS.
YOU DON'T ALLOW A PERSON TO COME TO THE SYNAGOGUE, ONE
PERSON IN A CAR.
YOU GROUP THEM UP AND THEN YOU HAVE SPECIAL PEOPLE TO REMOVE
THE CAR.
THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO.
SO THAT YOU CAN CONGEST AN AREA.
YOU HAVE TO HEAR THE COMMUNITY.
I AGREE NO ONE WANTS A -- A COMMUNITY WITH TRAFFIC ALL THE
TIME.
AND ALSO, DO YOU WANT THOSE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE
GOING TO EMBRACE THE COMMUNITY.
AND NOT EVERY -- NOT EVERY CHURCH, NOT EVERY SYNAGOGUE DOES,
BUT THIS ONE DOES.
SO I AM SAYING TOP LOOK AT THE -- AT THE SYNAGOGUE AND THE
CENTER AND HOW IS IT GOING TO BE POSITIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT.
YOU DO NOT -- AND ANOTHER THING I WANT TO ASK.
HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE HERE IN 1959?
ANYONE HERE?
YAY!
THANK YOU.
SO WAS I.
THAT IS TRUE.
05:52:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MA'AM, YOU ARE SPEAKING TO THE COUNCIL,
PLEASE.
05:52:14PM >> SORRY.
IN THAT TIME -- IN THE 1950s AND 1960S I CAME.
THIS IS NOT THE TAMPA OF 1960.
05:52:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
30 SECONDS MORE.
05:52:24PM >> IT HAS CHANGED FOR THE BETTER AND WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE
FOR THE BETTER IF YOU LISTEN AND RESPECT AND BE FLEXIBLE.
THAT'S IT.
05:52:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IN CHAMBERS, I
UNDERSTAND YOUR ZEAL FOR YOUR COMMUNITY; HOWEVER, PLEASE DO
NOT SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING.
I WILL ASK YOU TO PLEASE NOT APPLAUD.
AND IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW THOSE RULES, I AM GOING TO ASK
EVERYONE TO LEAVE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE APPLICANT AND
THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SPEAKING.
PLEASE, AND THANK YOU.
YES, MA'AM.
05:53:00PM >> HI, CHERYL PALMER.
9108 BAY CLUB COURT.
ALTHOUGH I DON'T LIVE IN THE AREA, I ATTEND THE HADDAD HERE.
I AM A MEMBER OF JCC AND I AM CONSTANTLY IN THE AREA WE ARE
DESCRIBING.
ADDITIONALLY I'M HERE AS A PERSON OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO
I AM A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AGENT.
SO UNDERSTANDING HOW THESE -- WHAT PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF AND
WHAT THEY ANTICIPATE AS WE GO THROUGH THESE PROCESSES AND
PROCEDURES, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE ANYTHING CAN POTENTIALLY
HAPPEN THAT YOU HEAR MIGHT.
BUT THE RABBI IS NOT A PLANNER, AND WE HAVE THEM HERE.
NOBODY GETS A BUILDING PERMIT UNLESS CERTAIN CRITERIA ARE
MET.
AND YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO MEET WITH FIRE AND SAFETY.
THEY HAVE TO MEET WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS
INVOLVED WITH THE CITY PLANNING IN ORDER THAT THIS
EVERYTHING IS MADE RIGHT TO ALLEVIATE ANY CONCERNS THAT THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD HAVE.
AND NOW THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN ADDRESS, AND I AM SURE
MODIFY TO ENSURE THAT THOSE IF CONCERNS CAN BE ALLEVIATED.
AND I DO KNOW I HAD THE PRIVILEGE.
AND.
COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, WE ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THE OFFICE
BUILDINGS AND THE RETAIL AND -- BUT THERE IS THE USE FOR
PLACES OF WORSHIP.
AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE -- THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH
MANY DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS AND THE CHALLENGES, OF COURSE,
FINDING A LOCATION.
A LOT THAT WILL PERMIT IT.
AND THEN ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS OF GROWING OUT OF IT.
SOME THAT -- THAT IS LEGITIMATE.
SO IT IS NOT UNCOMMON THAT YOU WOULD SEEK MAKE SURE PAUSE
YOU DO WANT THIS TO BE NOT A TRANSIENT TYPE OF THEY THINK.
WE WOULD LIKE OUR PLACES OF WORSHIP THAT I CAN ONLY IMAGINE
ANY PLACE OF WORSHIP WOULD BE ONLY A BENEFIT TO A COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THAT HEARING THE CONCERNS, I UNDERSTAND AS WE
HEAR IN ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING ON IN TAMPA,
THE TRAFFIC IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN.
I KNOW THAT I TRAVEL ARMENIA COMING TO JCC, COMING TO
THE HADDAD, ARMENIA, UNFORTUNATELY, IS A WIDE ONE-WAY STREET
AND THINGS HE SET UP RELATIVELY WELL, BUT BETWEEN THE
CONSTRUCTION THEY CAN SATISFIED THE RESIDENTS OF THE AREA IF
THEY STAY OPEN-MINDED THAT THEIR CONCERNS WILL HAD BEEN
ADDRESSED.
I ALSO -- I DO WANT TO SAY I WAS A NEUROCRITICAL CARE NURSE
AND I AM VERY SORRY FOR THE PERSON THAT SUFFERED SUCH A
TRAUMA.
BECAUSE I DO KNOW WHAT THAT IS VERY MUCH FIRSTHAND.
AND THESE ARE THE THINGS WE WANT TO AVOID.
THAT IS WHERE I BELIEVE THE HADDAD HOUSE BELIEVE -- AND WITH
CERTAINTY THAT THEY WOULD NOT BRING -- DO ANYTHING THAT WILL
BRING ANY HARM TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR TO THE PEOPLE THERE.
AND TO AC CRESS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY.
WE HAVE ISRAELI ARMY PERSON WHO IS THERE FOR EVERY MEETING.
AND THERE IS AVAILABILITY FOR PUBLIC MEETING BECAUSE IT WILL
BE A PLACE THAT WILL BE AN OPEN DOOR.
SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
05:56:22PM >> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN CITRO AND COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS JONATHAN GILBERT.
AND I RISE IN SUPPORT OF CHANGING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I WANT TO ENDORSE THE REMARKS BY MR. COLLINS THAT HE MADE
EARLIER.
EXCUSE ME, MY NOTES JUST FAILED ME HERE.
WITHOUT GETTING INTO WHO IS GOING TO BE USING THE PROPERTY,
WHICH -- AND THE USE THEY ARE GOING TO PUT TO IT, I WOULD
LIKE TO SAY THAT I READ THE DOCUMENT ONLINE, THE REPORTS OF
THE DEPARTMENTS AND THE AGENCIES, AND I SEE THAT THEY ARE
ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE.
AND SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO -- JUST LIKE TO ADD MY
ENDORSEMENT TO THAT THAT I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE.
AND WISH YOU ALL WILL APPROVE IT.
THANK YOU.
05:57:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
05:57:23PM >> GOOD EVENING, ANDREW AUBREY, 505 NORTH GOMEZ.
THE PAST PRESIDENT OF OAKWOOD PARK FOR SEVEN YEARS.
WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THESE KIND OF CHALLENGES FOR MANY
YEARS.
I'M HERE TO SAY THAT I DON'T SUPPORT THIS.
I THINK THAT THE LAND USE MAP IS HERE FOR A REASON.
WE SHOULD BE FOLLOWING THAT.
A LOT OF THE HIGH DENSITY THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT IS TO THE
EAST OF THE PROPERTY.
ARMENIA IS LIKE A HIGHWAY.
WE ARE ABOUT TO REDO A PARK THAT HAS NO PARKING, EXCEPT ON
ARMENIA THAT THEY SHARE WITH THE JCC.
THEY SHARE WITH THE FOUNDRY.
ALL OF THESE PLACES HAVE GOTTEN REDUCTION OF PARKING BECAUSE
OF YOU GUYS AND WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT IN THE COMMUNITY
WE HAVE SEEN EVERY DAY.
IT IS IN THE PAPER EVERY DAY.
JCC IS FIGURING OUT.
HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE JCC.
MY KIDS GO THERE.
I SWIM THERE.
MY KIDS LOVE THE PLACE.
WE NEED MORE PARKING FOR THE FACILITIES AND DOESN'T FIT.
SOMEBODY TALKED OF PUTTING FIVE POUNDS IN A ONE-POUND BAG
AND THAT IS WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE IS GOING ON.
WE ARE TRYING TO FIT SOMETHING GINORMOUS.
CHANGING SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE DOWN THE ROAD A VERY
SLIPPERY SLOPE FOR ALL OF US, OKAY LIKE THEY SAID, ONE, WHAT
STOPS IT FROM DOING SOMETHING IN A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
IT IS SETTING A PRECEDENT THAT I DEFINITELY DON'T AGREE
WITH.
AND I WILL TELL YOU GUYS TO VOTE THIS DOWN.
AND TO FIND WAYS.
YOU KNOW I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA, BUT I THINK IT IS TOO
BIG.
THE VISION IS WAY TO GRAND FOR THE LOCATION.
TGH IS BUILDING ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD, A NEW EMERGENCY ROOM.
GINORMOUS PROPERTY.
ONLY BUILDING ONE STORY.
WHY?
IF WE WANT TO BUILD SO DENSELY AND BUILD THINGS LIKE THIS,
WHY DIDN'T YOU MANDATE THAT THEY BUILD IT FIVE STORIES TALL
AND PUT A PARKING GARAGE AND HAVE FUTURE USES AND OTHER
PEOPLE BUILD AROUND THE AREA.
NO, BUILDING NOT EVEN DONE.
ONE STORY.
BUT THEY HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING.
SO WHY ARE WE TRYING TO FIT SOMETHING SO BIG IN SUCH A SMALL
LITTLE BOX.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND I WILL ASK YOU GUYS TO VOTE THIS DOWN AND VOTE ANY KIND
OF THIS I THINK THAT WILL SET A BAD PRECEDENT FOR OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ARE PREDOMINANTLY A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT'S HOW WE ALL WANT TO STAY.
THANK YOU.
05:59:54PM >> GOOD EVENING, SHAWN WILSON, ROLLING STREET.
I LIVE IN THE BON AIR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS FRONTAGE ON SOME
FAIRLY MAJOR STREETS, FOR EXAMPLE, KENNEDY AND DALE MABRY
AND WE DEAL WITH IT.
WHEN YOU -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT -- WHEN I LOOK AT.
I AM SUPPORTING STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
I URGE YOU TO ADOPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THIS
FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE.
ARMENIA IS A CORRIDOR WHY JUST LIKE IF DALE MABRY AND
ARMENIA ARE CORRIDORS.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE MAP I SAW BEFORE AND SAW THE RED ON THE
RIGHT AND A BROWN ON THE LEFT.
AND I AM A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER AND ACTIVIST.
WHY IS IT NOT RED ON THE LEFT.
BOTH OF THE FRONTAGES ON ARMENIA SHOULD BE THE SAME.
TO ME THAT MAKES BETTER -- MAKES BETTER PLANNING.
AND WILL BE EQUIVALENT TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAVING RESIDENTIAL
ON KENNEDY OR RESIDENTIAL ON DALE MABRY.
NOBODY WOULD EVER IMAGINE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE RESIDENTIAL ON
DALE MABRY ON KENNEDY, BUT WE HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
RIGHT BEHIND THOSE MORE INTENSE LOTS.
AND IT WORKS.
AND SO I THINK THAT IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE FROM A PLANNING
PERSPECTIVE TO ENCOURAGE MORE INTENSE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT UP
ON ARMENIA.
HALFWAY DOWN THE BLOCK.
NO.
RIGHT UP ON ARMENIA, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND I URGE YOU TO
ADOPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THE RECOMMENDATION OF, I
BELIEVE, THE OTHER BOARDS WHO HAVE LOOKED AT IT AND APPROVED
THE FUTURE LAND USE AMENDMENT.
I DO AGREE WITH THE ONE COMMENT THAT THE PRIOR PERSON MADE
THAT WE SHOULD SEE FOUR OR FIVE-STORY BUILDINGS ALL UP AND
DOWN KENNEDY BUT WILL TAKE DECADES TO HAPPEN AND THOSE ARE
-- THOSE ARE BIGGER -- BIGGER ISSUES TO DEAL WITH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND GOOD LUCK VOTING.
THANK YOU.
06:02:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
06:02:06PM >> CAN I PUT THIS ON THE PROJECTOR?
THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS AGAIN TO ME.
ANY NAME IS DAVID GOLDSHEEN.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE.
MENDY ASKED FOR ME TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU GUYS.
2333 WEST CYPRESS STREET I OWN THE PROPERTY.
SO A BLOCK AWAY WHERE THIS PROPOSED BUILDING WILL BE.
I AM A MEMBER OF THE CONGREGATION.
AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO FINALLY SEEING MENDY'S VISION
IN THIS AREA.
I REMEMBER SPEAKING BEFORE YOU GUYS -- NOT ALL OF YOU GUYS
-- A FEW YEARS AGO APPROVED FOR A CRA THAT HELPED ME APPROVE
-- IMPROVE THAT CORNER OF KENNEDY -- SORRY, SIGH CYPRESS AND
ARMENIA.
THAT IS MY DENTAL OFFICE, AND I THINK THE CHANGE IS PRETTY
POSITIVE.
THE COMMENTS I GET FOR WHAT I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP WITH
MY VISION -- BECAUSE I WAS SCARED.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT EITHER.
I KNEW I WANTED TO BUILD SOMETHING GREAT.
NOT JUST ON THE INSIDE, BECAUSE A LOT OF BUSINESS OWNERS
FOCUS ON HOW CAN I MAKE THE MOST MONEY.
BUT I WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE OUTSIDE AND HOW CAN I REALLY
TAKE MY VISION AND MAKE THE OUTSIDE OF THIS BUILDING AND
WHAT I DO WITH THIS CORNER BE EVERYTHING THAT I WANT TO DO
INSIDE.
AND I BELIEVE THE SAME THING WILL HAPPEN WITH MENDY.
HE BEEN A FRIEND OF THE FAMILY AND THE CONGREGANT FOR WELL
OVER A DECADE NOW AND I HAVE SEEN HOW HE HAS GROWN FROM HIS
HOUSE TO A VERY SMALL UPSTAIRS BUILDING TO A NEW BUILDING,
AND I THINK THIS WILL ONLY FURTHER ENHANCE THIS.
EVERYTHING THEY DO IS GREAT.
IT IS DONE WELL.
IT IS DONE BEAUTIFULLY.
I HAVE THIS BOOK THAT IS GIVEN TO ME.
DEED AND PROPERTIES DATING BACK TO THE 1870s WHEN BENJAMIN
-- WEST TAMPA WAS ALL LAID OUT.
I AM HONORED TO HAVE THIS BOOK.
IT HAS A VISION OF WHAT THIS COMMUNITY WAS BACK FROM THE
1870s WHEN IT WAS BOUGHT FOR $.60 AN ACRE AND HOW FAR WE
HAVE COME FROM THE 1870s TO 2023.
I AM IN FULL SUPPORT.
THIS WILL BE A WONDERFUL STRUCTURE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE DANGER ALSO COME FOR PEOPLE DRIVING
ERRATICALLY WHEN GOING TO SYNAGOGUE.
AND ALSO, I HAPPEN TO HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING THAT WON'T BE
USED AT THAT TIME.
I WON'T SAY PLENTY.
PARKING IS ALWAYS AN ISSUE AS WE KNOW IN SOUTH TAMPA.
I AM A BLOCK AWAY.
AND I WILL DEFINITELY -- I WAS ASKED IF I NEED TO BE AN
OVERFLOW PARKING, I HAVE NO PROBLEM BEING IN OVERFLOW
PARKING THAT IS A BLOCK AWAY.
JUST LIKE THE LAWYER WHO IS RIGHT BEHIND ME, WE SHARED
PARKING AT TIMES WHEN WE NEEDED BETWEEN EACH OTHER.
SO -- YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
ASKED VERY LAST MINUTE TO COME UP HERE, BUT I KNOW HOW SCARY
THIS IS.
I KNOW GOING BEFORE ALL THE ZONING AND PLANNING AND
EVERYTHING I WENT THROUGH STRUGGLING WHEN I LOST MY BUILDING
AND HAD TO GET OPEN AND TRY TO KEEP MY BUSINESS ALIVE.
SO I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS.
AND I WANT YOU TO -- TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT AND
HOPEFULLY STAND IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU.
06:05:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
06:05:35PM >> JANICE KATZ.
I LIVE IN ARMORY GARDENS AND THE SECRETARY OF ARMORY GARDENS
AND A RESIDENTIAL REALTOR IN THE AREA.
IT IS A PASSION WHEN I SEE DEVELOPERS TRY TO COME IN TRY TO
TWEAK THE PROPERTY TO MAKE THINGS THEY WANT TO AND NOT WHAT
IS BEST IN OUR FEELINGS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.
I WANT TO TELL YOU, FIRST OF ALL, THAT WE WELCOME THE HADDAD
INTO THE COMMUNITY WITH OPEN ARMS.
IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE A -- A RELIGIOUS ENTITY IN YOUR
COMMUNITY.
SO THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT AT ALL.
BUT YOU CAN NOT TAKE A QUARTER OF AN ACRE LOT AND BUILD
ALMOST A 12,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING ON IT.
IT IS LIKE TAKING THE WHOLE LOT.
I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, THIS AREA, A QUARTER-ACRE LOT IS
FANTASTIC.
TO TAKE THAT AND TAKE THAT WHOLE LOT AND TO BUILD -- EVEN IF
YOU ARE GOING UPWARD AND TAKE 11,000 SQUARE FEET.
YOU GOT -- AND OUR AREA TAJ MAHAL UP THIS.
IT IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY TALL.
AND UNNECESSARY IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT IS NOT GOING TO HAVE IN THAT AREA THE NECESSARY --
THEY HAVE LESSENED 6,000 SQUARE FOOT ENTITY.
SO IF THEY DIDN'T GET THAT CHANGE IN PLANS WHICH THEY KNEW
RIGHT AWAY WHAT IT WAS ZONED FOR WHEN THEY PURCHASED THIS
PROPERTY, THIS TPD OF BUILDING.
THEY COULD HAVE BUILT SOMETHING AND STUCK WITH IT.
AND KEPT WHAT THEY NEEDED.
I REALLY DO BELIEVE IT WOULD BE FEASIBLE TO HAVE EVERYTHING
THAT YOU NEED AND PUT IN THAT 6,000 SQUARE FEET AND STILL BE
DESIRABLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT I THINK, UNFORTUNATELY, THEN, YOU SAY, WELL, LET'S TRY
TO GO AND TWEAK IT WITH THE CITY.
AND THAT IS UNFORTUNATELY WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO IN THE
CITY AND UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE A CITY THAT WILL GO WITH THE
DEVELOPERS AND GO WITH THE DEVELOPERS AND IF -- IF THERE IS
NOT ALWAYS OPPOSITION TO THE DEVELOPERS.
AND WE NEED THAT BECAUSE WE ARE ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I HAVE BEEN ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNION FOR THE SEVEN YEARS
I HAVE BEEN THERE AND SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND LET'S HAVE A
NICE WALKING COMMUNITY WHERE WE HAVE NO SIDEWALKS IN OUR
COMMUNITY AND SAY KEEP THE BUILDING WITHIN WHAT IS SUPPOSED
TO BE.
DENY THE REQUEST FOR A CHANGE, AND LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY
ELEVEN HAPPILY EVER AFTER.
THANK YOU.
06:08:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
06:08:42PM >> HELLO, I LIVE IN -- I'M HERE TO SUPPORT HADDAD.
I DIDN'T COME PREPARED TO SAY ANYTHING BUT I DECIDED THAT
SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO MENTION TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION
IS THAT IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT HADDAD DOES, IT IS ALWAYS
THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND I AM SURE THE -- IF THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BE THERE, THEY
ARE ONLY GOING TO BRING GOOD THINGS TO IT THE COMMUNITY.
IF THE PROBLEM IS THE PARKING AND SAFETY AND THE TRAFFIC
THERE, MAYBE THEY CAN -- EVERYBODY CAN PARK AT THE JCC AND
MAY BE NO HER SOLUTION FOR THAT IF THAT IS THE THEY THINK.
WHICH I WANTED TO BRING UP.
SOMETHING I WAS FORGETTING.
TAMPA IS GROWING, AND WE NEED A PLACE TO -- TO -- TO EXPRESS
OURSELF AND TO IT THE WAY WE WANT.
AND WE NEED A PLACE.
WE NEED A PLACE.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORS, BUT -- IT IS A HARD
SITUATION.
ANYWAY, I WANTED TO SAY THAT THEY ONLY DO THINGS FOR THE
COMMUNITY ALL THE TIME.
THANK YOU.
06:10:07PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCILMEN.
IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU AGAIN.
AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
MY NAME IS MARTHA VILA.
I LIVE AT 3209 WEST.
I SPENT A WHOLE LOT OF TIME.
THE COMMUNITY KNOWN AS ARMORY GARDENS, THE HOME OF THE VILA
BROTHERS PARK.
THIS PARK WAS MADE IN HONOR TO THE MILITARY SERVICE OF SEVEN
BROTHERS FROM THIS AREA.
AND THEIR CONTRIBUTION TO OUR FREEDOM POP.
THE STORY YOU ALL KNOW WELL.
I STAND BEFORE YOU AGAIN TODAY ASKING THAT YOU PROTECT THE
VALUE OF PARK FOR THE RESIDENTS OF ARMORY GARDENS AND TO
MAKE AN EFFORT TO SECURE THE PARKING AROUND THE PARK FOR THE
USE OF ITS RESIDENTS.
THE VIBRANT ARMORY GARDENS COMMUNITY HAS PATIENTLY WORKED
AND WAITED FOR 18 YEARS FOR THEIR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES TO
USE THIS WONDERFUL FACILITY.
AND NOT TO HAMPER ACCESS.
IT ONLY JEOPARDIZES THE SUCCESS FOR WHICH THE PARK WAS
INTENDED.
FOR THIS REASON, I RECOMMEND THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU IS
DENIED.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR IF HELP, PAST HELP, AND LOOK FORWARD TO
SEEING YOU AT THE OPENING OF THIS BEAUTIFUL RED, WHITE AND
BLUE PARK.
AND DON'T FORGET MY BIRTHDAY.
[LAUGHTER]
[APPLAUSE]
06:12:09PM >> GOOD EVENING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
I HEARD A LOT OF TALK HOW WONDERFUL THIS SIN GOING IS FOR
THE COMMUNITY AND THEY NEVER HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING UNTIL
THEY WERE REQUESTED FOR BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, TWICE.
AND COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR THE THIRD TIME.
THEN THEY DECIDE IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA.
I WASN'T THERE, BUT YOU ALL KNOW I HAVE FRIENDS WHO HIGHWAY
THERE.
AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY
ARE KIND OF SPEAKING THE SAME THING THEY SPOKE AT THE
MEETING.
BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
I PUT UP ON THE OVERHEAD THIS NMU.
LOOK AT THAT.
OH, MY GOODNESS.
THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE LOT -- NOW THIS IS
11,325-SQUARE-FOOT LOT.
THAT IS THE LOT THAT A SINGLE-FAMILY IS ON.
IT IS A BIGGER LOT, BUT NOT A HUGE LOT FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY
HOME.
BUT TO PUT A 11,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING ON THAT IS ABSURD.
THE 6,000 SQUARE FEET IS PLENTY.
CARROLL ANNE AND I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS QUITE A BIT.
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH CARROLL.
ANNE, I THINK THIS MAY GET SOLD AS SOON AS THE LAND USE
CHANGES ON IT.
PLEASE, PLEASE, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORS
ARE SAYING.
AND I HONESTLY THINK THAT WE HAVE SPENT A LOT MORE TIME ON
THIS THAN IT WOULD HAVE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A RABBI LEADING
THE CHARGE ON IT.
I THINK THAT EVERYBODY IN THIS CITY DESERVES TO HAVE THE
SAME VOICE.
AND IF THEY ARE SO WONDERFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY, HOW MANY
CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS DO THEY HAVE.
SORRY, ACELA DIDN'T WORK THIS AFTERNOON SO I COULDN'T LOOK
IT UP.
MY UNDERSTANDING MANY CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS ON THIS
PROPERTY.
IF YOU ARE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, YOU DON'T BELIEVE TRASH LAYING
AROUND.
IF YOU ARE A NEIGHBOR, YOU CUT YOUR GRASS.
IF YOU ARE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, YOU ARE NOT PUSHING PEOPLE'S
FEED.
BACK.
MR. BENTLEY SAID, WE ARE NOT MAKING ANY CHANGES.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY CHANGES TO PROPOSE.
YES, THEY DID WHAT YOU ASKED THEM TO DO.
BUT WAS IT FLUFF?
OR WAS IT REAL?
Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
06:14:28PM >> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE
OPPORTUNITY OF TALKING TONIGHT.
I CAME TO TAMPA OVER 30 YEARS AGO AS THE CITY'S CONSULTANT
TO GET THE STRAZ BUILT, WHICH WAS DONE AND COMPLETED AND WE
ALL ENJOY.
I WAS NEXT THE CONSULTANT FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER WHICH A
PROUD ADDITION TO TAMPA'S BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
I HAVE LIVED IN HYDE PARK FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS.
AND DURING THAT TIME, I HAVE BECOME FAMILIAR WITH NOT
ONLY MENDY BUT MENDY'S ENTIRE FAMILY.
I HAVE ATTENDED SERVICES IN HIS FATHER'S SYNAGOGUE.
AND MENDY'S SYNAGOGUE.
I CAN ASSURE YOU MEMBERS OF COUNCIL THAT WHAT IS PROPOSED BY
MENDY WILL BE HONORED AS BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
I HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE PRELIMINARY PLANS AND DRAWINGS FOR
THIS BUILDING.
AND IT IS NOT A BLUNT COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
IT IS MORE RESIDENTIAL IN STYLE.
IT ALSO HAS THE PROVISIONS, AS FAR AS I RECALL, TO HAVE
PARKING BELOW THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, THEREFORE
FREEING UP THE LOT FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS NOT A BUILDING PLUS PARKING.
BUT IT IS A BUILDING WHICH WILL ACCOMMODATE PARKING WITHIN
THE BUILDING.
I THINK THE -- IN CLOSING, I WOULD STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS
ZONING CHANGE FOR THE ACCOMMODATION OF THIS BUILDING.
I THINK THE HADDAD SYNAGOGUE WILL BE AN EXCELLENT NEIGHBOR
AND COGNIZANT OF THEIR NEIGHBORS' DESIRES.
06:16:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GIVE US YOUR NAME.
06:16:37PM >> STEWART DONELL.
391 SOUTH DAKOTA AVENUE, HYDE, PARK.
06:16:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
THEN ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT?
IF I SEE NO ONE ELSE LINING UP, THIS GENTLEMAN WILL BE THE
LAST SPEAKER.
SIR?
06:17:01PM >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS ANGEL ROBINA.
HE CAME IN SUPPORT OF THE AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THE HADDAD
SOUTH TAMPA TO HAVE A PLACE OF WORSHIP.
NOT ONLY A PLACE OF WORSHIP BUT A PLACE OF EDUCATION AND
FAMILY SUPPORT.
AND I BELIEVE THAT WITH ALL THE SURROUNDINGS, ALL THE
NEGATIVE THAT WE HAVE AROUND IN THIS CITY, LIKE PLACES LIKE
CLUBS, BARS THAT PEOPLE GO TO HAVE ENTERTAINMENT, HAVING A
PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO TO RECEIVE THE WORD OF GOD AND ALSO TO
BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY IS A GOOD PLACE TO HAVE IN THIS
COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:17:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
PETITIONER, IT IS YOUR TIME FOR REBUTTAL.
06:17:48PM >> CAN I HAVE SIX MINUTES, COUNCIL?
IS THAT OKAY?
JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO RYAN AND
LAST WORD BY THE RABBI.
JUST A COUPLE OF THESE COMMENTS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF
THEY INFLUENCED AND SUNK IN.
MISS BENNETT SAID NMU-24 WHICH WILL ALLOW FOUR PAGES OF USES
SOME NOT DESIRABLE.
THAT IS NOT TRUE.
THE ZONING WILL BE FOR PD.
RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT USES.
I CAN'T GET INTO ZONING ISSUES, BUT ANY EVENT, NOT OFFICE,
NOT RETAIL.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS ALREADY FOR RESIDENTIAL SUPPORT,
ABOUT THE SAME HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
THEN MISS POYNOR GOT UP THERE AND SAID SOME -- SOMEWHAT
IRRESPONSIBLE THINGS THAT SHE HAS NO FIRST KNOWLEDGE OF
ANYTHING BUT ALLEGED CODE ENFORCEMENT VIOLATIONS.
SPECULATED THAT HAD THE CLIENT'S MOTIVATION TO SELL THE
PROPERTY WHICH IS TOTALLY UNTRUE.
IT IS HARD TO TAKE THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN SOMEBODY HAS NO
KNOWLEDGE AND JUST KIND OF PUTTING THE CLIENT IN A BAD
LIGHT, THE PETITIONER.
YOU KNOW, IF WE GOT TO ITEM NUMBER 3 -- I MEAN ITEM NUMBER
2, YOU GOT THE BACK-UP.
AND WE HAVE -- WE HAVE METHODS TO ADDRESS THE PARKING
DEFICIENCY THAT IS REFERENCED IN THE SITE PLAN.
AND BUT KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET INTO ITEM NUMBER 2 AND
GET INTO IT AND ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS RAISED KIND OF
LIKE YOU ARE ENTERING INTO A GUN FIGHT WITH BOTH HAND BEHIND
YOUR BACK, BUT I CAN'T TALK TO ZONING ISSUES, BUT YOU KIND
OF HEARD AND HAVE BEEN TEASED WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES
THROUGH SOME OF THE OPPONENTS HERE TONIGHT.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO RYAN.
AND HE IS GOING TO BRA EVILLY GO OVER A COUPLE OF ISSUES.
AND THE RABBI WOULD LIKE THE LAST WORD.
06:19:51PM >> RYAN MANASSE, EAST JACKSON STREET SUITE 3100.
I WILL USE THIS WITH YOUR STAFF REPORT WITH FILE NO. TA/CPA
22-26.
SUBJECT SITE IN THESE COLORED AREAS.
EXISTING LAND USES.
PINK SIGNIFIES COMMERCIAL USES.
LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES.
NOTHING I AM MAKING UP STRAIGHT FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION
REPORT.
THAT WILL BE IN TUNE WITH MIXED-USE CATEGORY.
NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE-24 IS A CATEGORY WITH LIMITED USES.
ADDITIONALLY, HERE IS ARMENIA RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH.
LIKE EVERYBODY IS LISTENING, ONE-WAY.
YOU WILL SEE THESE USES ARE IN TUNE.
INSTITUTIONAL USES.
A PARK AND JCC.
AT THAT PLACE WHERE RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY FURTHER EMBEDDED INTO
THAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
JUST TO POINT OUT TWO, THE ZONING IS RM-16, THE RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY.
UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITHOUT DOING A COMPLETE
ANALYSIS, I WOULD ASSUME THE SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS WILL BE
UNDER UTILIZED FOR POTENTIAL DENSITY.
TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE A PRISTINE SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD,
NOT THE CASE.
THEY WERE INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE LIGHT GRAY COLOR AND ALSO
THIS SHOULD BE THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY COLOR.
THAT IS THE BOUNDARY DIRECTLY EAST.
TO GO INTO THAT, I WENT THERE THIS MORNING AND I AM STANDING
ON THE SUBJECT SITE AND TO SHOW YOU THE FOUNDRY WAS DIRECTLY
EAST.
ON-STREET PARKING AND 99 GOING SOUTH.
MORE ON-STREET PARKING GOING SOUTH TO KENNEDY.
WITH THAT WE FEEL THAT THE IN NMU-24 CATEGORY IS
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SERVING CATEGORY AND HAVE
RESIDENTIAL USES.
ADDITIONALLY WE NEED THE PLANNING COMMISSION -- AND THE
PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE REQUEST AND
I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE RABBI.
06:21:49PM >> POINT OUT THE PROPERTY --
06:21:52PM >> HERE IS THE PROPERTY.
THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE.
AND I AM STANDING ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT HERE FACING EAST.
06:21:57PM >> THANKS, RYAN.
06:22:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:22:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
RYAN, PUT THAT MAP BACK UP.
THE ONE WITH THE COLORS.
I WAS LOOKING AT ARMENIA.
EVERYTHING ON THE WEST AND EAST IS ALL DESIGNATED
COMMERCIAL?
06:22:14PM >> SO THIS WOULD BE --
06:22:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ALL THE WAY UP THAT NASSAU, DOWN SOUTH TO
GRAY.
06:22:20PM >> CORRECT.
THIS IS GRAY AND NASSAU.
THE PINK INDICATE COMMERCIAL USES.
THE ORANGE IS DUPLEX OR SEMI DETACHED USES SO NOT
SINGLE-FAMILY.
ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF ARMENIA, YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL.
THEN A DUPLEX.
COMMERCIAL, DUPLEX.
SINGLE-FAMILY.
IMMEDIATELY NORTH OF OUR SUBJECT SITE IS AN OFFICE USE AND
DUPLEX USES.
AND SOUTH, THERE IS A MIX OF SINGLE-FAMILY AND COMMERCIAL
USES AND THEN GOING DOWN, YOU CAN SEE IT.
OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU GET CLOSER TO KENNEDY, THAT PATTERN IS
PREDOMINANT AND COMES OVER TO THE WEST SEED OF ARMENIA.
06:22:57PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
06:22:58PM >> WHY HE IS.
06:23:03PM >> I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE.
NOT MY INTENTION WHEN I BEGAN THIS PROCESS.
I TRIED TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS AS IT WAS PUT IN PLACE.
I RESPECT AND VALUE THE FEEDBACK WE HEARD TODAY.
I DO WANT TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE MY
INTEGRITY IS CHALLENGED HERE.
I HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING THAT PROJECT OR PARCEL.
I MADE THAT RIGHT CLEAR.
I WORKED HARD TO DEVELOP A REPUTATION HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN PEOPLE CALL ME A LIAR, THAT IS PERSONALLY INSULTING.
ADDITIONALLY, I HAD EVERY INTENTION AND I HAVE EVERY
INTENTION OF WORKING WITH THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
SOME OF THEM I THINK ARE MORE AMENABLE TO WORKING.
SOME LESS SOME.
SOME HAVE ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND EVEN BEFORE THIS
BASED ON CONVERSATIONS THEY HAD IN NOVEMBER WITH CITY STAFF.
SOME OF THIS LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THAT MAYBE THERE ARE ABOUT
ULTERIOR MOTIVES WHY THEY DON'T WANT US THERE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, BUT I DEFINITELY LOOK FORWARD
TO WORKING -- AND HOPEFULLY ADDRESS AND APPEASE SOME OF
THOSE CHALLENGES AND CONCERNS.
AND WE DO HAVE SPECIFIC WHY $IN PLACE.
SPEED BUMPS AND OTHER THINGS THAT CAN SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.
I TALKED TO PEOPLE THAT WORK SPECIFICALLY IN TRAFFIC TO TRY
TO COME UP WITH IDEA AND SUGGESTIONS.
THAT IS MY GOAL.
THAT IS WHAT I ALWAYS WORKED TOWARD.
TO CLARIFY, SOMEBODY SAID THAT CURRENTLY WE OPERATE A
FACILITY WITH 28 SPOTS.
THAT IS AN ABSOLUTE LIE.
WE HAVE FIVE SHOTS.
THEY LOOKED AT AN ADJOINING PARKING LOT.
WE HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT.
OUR CURRENT SPACE IS FIVE LOTS AND A HANDICAP.
JUST AN EXAMPLE THAT PEOPLE PRESENT FACTS THAT ARE NOT
GROUNDED AND BASED ON TRUTH.
I WOULD LIKE MY REPUTATION STAND FOR WHAT IT IS AND I HOPE
YOU TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU VOTE.
THANK YOU.
06:24:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
06:25:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF I JUST MAY ADD.
06:25:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:25:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO
BOTH SIDE AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE CURIOSITY OUT OF THE
FACTS AND THE FACT OUT OF THE CURIOSITY.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT INDIVIDUAL'S REPUTATION.
NOT ABOUT ANYONE LYING.
I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE HAS DONE THAT.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT -- CERTAINLY WHEN YOU COME TO A HEARING
ESPECIALLY ON ZONING MATTERS, THERE IS A TIME WHEN
INDIVIDUALS ON BOTH SIDES -- IT IS SOMETHING THAT CHANGE --
THE WORD "CHANGE" ALONE BRINGS FEAR.
AND TO THE PROJECT MATTER, WHATEVER YOU ARE SPEAKING ABOUT.
THIS IS BASICALLY NOT ABOUT RELIGION.
NOT ABOUT WHO, WHEN, WHERE OR HOW.
BUT ONLY ABOUT ONE THING.
IT IS ABOUT RESIDENTIAL R-20.
TOP MIXED USE AND NMU-24.
THAT'S IT AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
NOTHING ELSE ABOUT INDIVIDUALS.
I BELIEVE THAT -- I KNOW PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES.
I KNOW MOST OF THEM ON BOTH SIDE AND I THINK THEY ARE GREAT,
HONEST PEOPLE.
SOMETIMES EMOTIONS GET TO INDIVIDUALS.
AND WHEN YOU HEAR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I TOO I TO BLOCK
THEM ALL OUT.
IT IS DIFFICULT TO DO THAT, BLOCK THEM ALL OUT.
MY ONLY THING I AM LOOKING AT IS R-20 TO MU-24 AND THE SIZE
AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WILL COME HERE, ESPECIALLY FROM
BEING FROM A SECTOR OF RELIGION THAT IS GOING TO COULD AM IN
ANY WAY, GET A ZONING AND THEN DO SOMETHING ELSE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
ALTHOUGH THAT WAS MENTIONED.
THAT IS BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, NERVOUS ABOUT
CHANGE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
WITH THAT, I WILL LISTEN TO THE OTHERS.
06:27:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL GIVE MY COMMENTS.
06:27:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:27:17PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I ECHO SOME OF WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID.
SOMETIMES FOLKS GET EMOTIONAL AND SAY THINGS THEY COME TO
REGRET IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT.
AND IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT THINGS ARE SAID THAT SUCH
COMMENTS HAVE NO SWAY ON ME WHATSOEVER.
PROBABLY TO THE CONTRARY.
WHEN PEOPLE MAKE ASSUMPTIONS THAT ARE NOT -- THAT ARE NOT
SUPPORTED BY FACTS, IT -- IT TENDS TO MAYBE UNDERMINE
CERTAIN THINGS IN MY OPINION.
THIS IS VERY SIMPLE.
THIS IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT.
I PAY SPECIAL DEFERENCE TO THE STAFF REPORT ON THIS AND
PARTIES AND PERSONALITIES ON BOTH SIDES.
FROM ONE TO TEN, I RESPECT AS A 11 PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES THAT
HAVE SPOKEN.
TO ME THE PERMITS, ETC., ARE VERY LIMITED VALUE IN ASSESSING
THIS.
BECAUSE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES.
PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES FOR WHOM I HAVE AFFECTION AND WHO HAVE.
SO THAT IS NOT RELEVANT HERE.
06:28:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
06:28:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU KNOW, TONIGHT A DECISION HAS TO BE MADE
ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
THAT IS THE REALITY.
SOMEBODY WILL LEAVE HERE UPSET.
SOMEBODY WILL LEAVE HERE HAPPY.
BUT IN MIDST OF IT ALL, BOTH SIDES ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
GOOD INTENTIONS.
PROTECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BRING A JOY OR COMFORT TO A
COMMUNITY THAT CAN HELP BUILD AND STRENGTHEN THE COMMUNITY.
BUT A DECISION HAS TO BE MADE.
I ONLY WISH THAT THE PROJECT COULD HAVE BEEN TALKED ABOUT
WITH THE COMMUNITY SO THEY CAN ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT WAS GOING
TO BE BUILT THERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS OR NOT.
UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T THINK THAT WAS -- I WASN'T THIS.
I CAN'T BE THERE.
BUT YOU HEAR BOTH SIDES TALK AND YOU HEAR SOME FOLK SAY THIS
IS GOING TO BE THERE.
THIS IS WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING TO PUT THERE.
OTHER SIDE SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO BE THERE.
PEOPLE GET SCARED.
YOU KNOW, THEY -- IT IS LIKE ANYTHING.
A MOTHER WITH THEIR CHILD.
THEY WANT TO PROTECT THEIR CHILD OF ALL COST, NO MATTER WHO
THAT PERSON IS.
THE COMMUNITY WANT TO PROTECT THEIR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
BUT AS WE KNOW, WE ARE A CITY THAT IS CHANGING.
I WISH SOME OF THESE CHANGES COULD COME TO THE EAST SIDE OF
TOWN, HE WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I WISH THESE CHANGES CAN COME TO THE EAST SEED OF TOWN WHERE
SOME OF THE FOLKS ON THE EAST SIDE ARE STRUGGLING AND
LOOKING FOR HOPE AND LOOKING FOR HE IS THEM EX AND
BEAUTIFICATION AND CHANGE THE MIND SET AND THE HOPES AND
DREAMS OF THEMSELVES.
BUT, AGAIN, IT'S -- IT IS A DECISION WILL BE MADE.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHATEVER SIDE IS VICTORIOUS, I
HOPE WE ALL GET ALONG AND WORK TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOOD
OF THE COMMUNITY AND A COMMON GOOD -- IF THE SYNAGOGUE GOES
THERE.
BUT TRY TO WORK TOGETHER ON HOW THIS MAY PLAY OUT.
THANK YOU, ALL.
06:30:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:30:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I CAN ECHO THE COMMENTS OF MY
COLLEAGUES.
I HAVE TREMENDOUS RESPECT FOR BOTH SEEDS FOR MOST PEOPLE IN
THIS ROOM THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS.
THESE ARE NOT EASY DECISIONS.
PEOPLE THAT, AGAIN, THEY LOVE AND WANT TO PROTECT THEIR
COMMUNITY AND OTHERS THAT WANT TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY
AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE HEARD BOTH SIDE.
MORE THAN ONCE BECAUSE THIS IS A CONTINUED DISCUSSION.
I WAS HOPING THAT -- WITH CONTINUED DISCUSSION, THINGS WOULD
WORK OUT BETTER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS DISCUSSED IN THOSE MEETINGS.
I HOPE THAT REGARDLESS, THAT FOLKS CONTINUE TO GET ALONG
REGARDLESS OF THE DECISION AND CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT
RESPECT, BUT YOU KNOW SOME DECISIONS ARE NOT EASY, THANK
YOU.
06:31:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:31:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
YEAH, I AGREE THAT SOME DECISIONS ARE DIFFICULT.
BUT ONE SIDE IS SAYING THEY WILL REALLY TALK TO THE
COMMUNITY.
AND THE OTHER SIDE IS SAYING WE ARE NOT BEING TALKED TO.
WHEN STUFF LIKE THIS COMES IN FRONT OF US, I EXPECT THE
COMMUNITY TO BE INVOLVED AND TO -- TO REALLY BE INFORMED AND
A PART OF THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
THAT IS NOT WHAT I HEARD HAS HAPPENED HERE.
I THINK THIS IS TOO JARRING FOR THIS COMMUNITY WHERE IT IS.
TO TIME JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO DENY THE
ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT FUTURE LAND USE MAP AT 808
NORTH ARMENIA AVENUE AND 2402 WEST STATE STREET FROM
RESIDENTIAL-20,R-20 TO NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE RNMU-24.
06:32:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WILL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
SEE, THIS IS NOT A STREET ORDINANCE.
THIS IS A TWO PROCESS.
YOU HAVE TO AMEND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN ORDER TO HAVE
SOMETHING TO FIT THERE OR NOT FIT THERE ACCORDING TO
WHATEVER AND EACH SIDE IS GOING TO DO.
AND, THEREFORE, WE HAVE -- WE HAVE A TWO-HEADED ITEM HERE
THAT IF THERE WAS JUST ONE CHANGE OF ZONING FROM SOMETHING
THAT WAS "A" TO A "B" WITHIN THAT SAME STRUCTURE OF ZONINGS, IT
WOULD CERTAINLY BE A LOT EASIER AND NOT SO MUCH COMPLICATED.
THIS IS WHY I SECONDED THE MOTION BECAUSE IT JUST --
ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME IN THE VICINITY, I KNOW THAT THE
CORNER OF ARMENIA AND CYPRESS WAS DONE THAT WAY 60 YEARS
AGO.
I KNOW THAT THAT WHOLE AREA IN FACT WHERE THE DENTIST SPOKE,
THE DOCTOR.
HE HAS A BEAUTIFUL PLEAS.
USED TO BE A MARKET AND SOLD TRINKETS.
IF YOU WANT TO BUY PENS OR WRITING PARAPHERNALIA.
YOU WANT TO BUY SOMETHING AND CONNECT TIMELINE TO CHINA AND
BROUGHT IN BY THE THOUSANDS.
AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID.
A FINE RELIGIOUS BUSINESS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT SIDE OF THE STREET ON THE NORTH
SIDE OF CYPRESS FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, IT WAS ALL
COMMERCIAL.
AND IT STILL IS.
BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IN DUE TIME FROM THAT AREA, THE EMPTY
STATION, GAS STATION ON CYPRESS AND HOWARD, THAT HAS BEEN
VACANT FOR 20 YEARS.
ALL THAT AREA THERE JUST SOUTH -- I MEAN JUST -- JUST --
YEAH, JUST NORTH OF IT IS SOMETHING THAT -- THAT NEEDS TO IT
BE LOOKED AT.
BECAUSE THE CHANGES THAT THEY WERE DON'T FIT ANYMORE WHAT IT
SHOULD BE NOW.
IT'S DITCH.
I READ LAND COST THERE WAS VERY HIGH.
MAYBE THAT IS NOT WHY IT IS BEING MOVED.
I UNDERSTAND I THINK WHAT IS HERE.
AND IT IS NOT THAT THE CHANGE, IT IS THE SIZE OF THE CHANGE
THAT BOTHERS ME.
06:34:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:34:49PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, THIS IS AN IMPOSSIBLE DECISION LIKE MY
COLLEAGUES SAID.
THERE IS -- THERE ARE GOOD PEOPLE ON BOTH SEED.
I KNOW PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES.
WE SITTING IN THIS ROLE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE
USE OF THE PROPERTY OR WHO OWNS IT.
THERE COULD BE -- IF A -- IF A RESTAURANT -- USING THE
ANALOGY, IF A RESTAURANT WANT TO GO SOMEWHERE AND PEOPLE
LOOK THAT RESTAURANT VERSUS ANOTHER RESTAURANT.
WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION THAT ANYONE CAN PUT A RESTAURANT
-- ONCE THIS IS CHANGED, ANYBODY CAN PUT ANYTHING THEY WANT
ON THIS.
WE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION HOW MUCH WE LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE PUTTING IN THE APPLICATION.
THE SITUATION IS FROM A MANNING POINT OF VIEW, IF YOU LOOK
AT THE MAP, ONE SIDE OF THE OF THE ROAD IS RED AND THE OTHER
SIDE ISN'T.
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO GO THROUGH A
BIGGER PROCESS TO GO -- TO LOOK AT THIS, TO CHANGE THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GO DOWN ALL OF ARMENIA IF THEY WANTED
TO DO THAT, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVEN'T DONE THAT.
THERE WILL BE PROCESS IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS TO DO
THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE A RADICAL CHANGE FOR THE
NEIGHBORHOOD PUTTING THIS IN.
MAKING A DECISION THERE IN A WAY SETS A PRECEDENT.
I AM SURPRISED THAT STAFF WOULD SUPPORT A CHANGE LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR --
FOR EVERYONE.
AND IN THE CONTENT OF THIS, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THIS IS A
PROPER USE.
06:36:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION THAT HAS BEEN MADE BY
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS.
THERE IS POSSIBILITY OF DOUBLING THE F.A.R.
AND IN MY OPINION, YOU ARE JUST PUTTING -- JAMMING TOO MUCH
CONTINUE TO THIS LOT.
SO THAT WILL BE THE REASON WHY I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING IT.
MAY WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
TO DENY.
I CANNOT SUPPORT -- I AM GOING TO DENY.
CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:37:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
06:37:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
06:37:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
06:37:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
06:37:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
06:37:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
06:37:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
06:37:42PM >>CLERK:
MOTION TO DENY HAS CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO.
[GAVEL SOUNDING]
06:37:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE --
06:37:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. BENTLEY, SORRY.
WE STILL HAVE ITEM 2.
WE HAVE TO ACT ON SOMETHING.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ON THE RECORD, DO WE NOT?
06:38:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WINNER EXITING CHAMBERS, CAN WE DO IT IN A
QUIET MANNER, PLEASE.
06:38:15PM >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO FORWARD ON ITEM NUMBER 2, BUT --
06:38:43PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
DEPARTMENT.
BECAUSE ITEM NUMBER 2 IS DEPENDENT ON ITEM NUMBER 1 BEING
FAVORABLY ACTED UPON BY COUNCIL, THERE IS NO NEED TO HEAR
ITEM NUMBER 2 AT THIS POINT.
AT THIS POINT, THE PROPOSAL WILL NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:39:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ, WILL IT NEED TO BE
WITHDRAWN.
06:39:07PM >> NOT WITHDRAWN.
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACT ON IT.
06:39:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOVE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY WHOM?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
06:39:21PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
TAKE CARE.
WE WILL NOW BE GOING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 -- MR. SHELBY,
WHEN WE -- WHEN WE CONTINUE THESE CASES I DID NOT KNOW IF
ANYONE WANTED TO SPEAK TO THOSE CONTINUANCES WHEN WE DID
THAT.
SHOULD I ASK NOW --
06:39:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO, SIR, THEY HAVE BEEN CONTINUED.
06:39:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-25.
06:39:51PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-25 LOCATED 1236 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
THIS IS A PRIVATELY INITIATED AMENDMENT.
SMALL SCALE IN SIZE.
0.ACRES AND WERE FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO MIXED USE 100.
HERE IS OUR GENERAL LOCATOR SLIDE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED HEIFER IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING
DISTRICT, CHANNEL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE URBAN VILLAGE AND
LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
AERIAL OVERVIEW OF THE SITE OUTLINED IN RED AND IN YELLOW.
NORTH OF TWIGGS STREET.
SOUTH OF YBOR CITY IN THE GASWORX DEVELOPMENT.
YOU GO TO THE EAST, YBOR CHANNEL HERE.
SOUTH, YOU HAVE KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
OVERALL CHANNEL DISTRICT IS URBAN WITH A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY
DEVELOPMENTS.
YOU MOVE TO THE WEST, TAMPA UNION STATION OVER HERE AND THE
ENCORE DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ALONG CHANNELSIDE DRIVE ON THE SUBJECT
SITE ON THE RIGHT HERE.
AND THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ALONG CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON YOUR LEFT HERE.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST FROM CHANNELSIDE DRIVE FROM THE SUBJECT
SITE FROM HERE TO HERE.
AND THIS IS LOOKING WEST ACROSS CHANNELSIDE DRIVE FROM THE
SUBJECT SITE.
SO HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
YOU CAN SEE THE SITE IS CURRENTLY RECOGNIZED UNDER THE HEAVY
INDUSTRIAL FUTURE LAND USE.
YOU CAN SEE NOT TOO MUCH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL LAND USE LEFT IN
THE CHANNEL DISTRICT AREA.
SOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL LAND USE FOR TAMPA UNION STATION, BUT
THE FUTURE LAND USE IS THE REGIONAL MIXED 100.
MOVE OVER TO THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER, THE CENTRAL BUSINESS
DISTRICT IN THAT CORNER AND A LITTLE BIT OF UMU-60 IN THE
RIGHT-HAND CORNER.
HERE IS THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE SITE UNDER THE RECOGNIZED MIXED USE 100.
THE SITE NORTH OF IT MAY LOOK SOMEWHAT FAMILIAR TO YOU.
THAT CAME BEFORE Y'ALL IN JUNE 2022 AND AMENDED THE FUTURE
AND WILL USE FROM INDUSTRIAL TO MIXED USE 100.
AGAIN THAT WAS THE SITE HERE THE SITE.
INDUSTRIAL USES ARE NOT PERMITTED, BUT A LITTLE UNDER 44,000
SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES CAN BE CONSIDERED.
UNDER THE RMU-100, 60 UNIT OR A ABOVE 100,000 SQUARE FEET OF
RESIDENTIAL OR NONINDUSTRIAL USES.
WITHIN THE PERIPHERY, ADDITIONAL INTENSITY AND DENSITY COULD
BE CONSIDERED ON TOP OF THE MAXIMUM SHOWN HERE.
WHILE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THIS CONSISTENT WITH
MULTIPLE ASPECT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MAINLY
ENCOURAGING COMPACT HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT COMPATIBLE
WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND USING LAND RESOURCES MORE
EFFICIENTLY.
THEY FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH PROMOTING DENSITY AND MIXES OF USES
OF TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT THAT SUPPORT WALKING AND
TRANSPORTATION AND NEW HOUSING ON VACANT OR UNDERUTILIZED
LAND.
BASED ON THOSE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FUNDS
IT CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, POLICIES OF THE TAMPA
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:43:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU.
06:43:47PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, ALEX SHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY
DROVE FOR THE RECORD.
I SUBMITTED MY POWERPOINT AND IT SHOULD BE PULLED UP ON THE
SCREEN.
06:44:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IT IS UP ON YOUR MONITOR, BUT NOT OURS.
THANK YOU.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-25.
I THINK THEY HAVE TO GO NEXT SLIDE.
NEXT SLIDE.
OR CAN I CHANGE IT FROM HERE?
CAN I CHANGE THE SLIDE FROM HERE?
OR DO YOU ALL HAVE TO DO IT?
OKAY.
THANK YOU.
SAM DID A GOOD JOB OF SETTING 9 LOCATION AND I WILL TRY TO
BE BRIEF.
THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF CHANNELSIDE DRIVE AND TWIGGS STREET.
THE PROPOSED REQUEST THAT YOU SEE ON THE LEFT IS WHAT IS
ADOPTED.
WE ARE PROPOSING RMU-100.
I WILL NOTE ADJACENT TO OTHER RMU-1 AS SAM ALLUDED TO.
A LOT OF RMU-100 IN THE DISTRICT THAT EXISTS TODAY.
ON THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, A PENDING
AMENDMENT THAT HAD BEEN HEARD ON THE CYCLE AFTER THIS CYCLE.
THAT IS CURRENTLY FILED AS WELL.
SAM WENT THROUGH THE DIFFERENCE IN THE DENSITY SO I WILL
SKIP OVER THIS ONE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, I THINK THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY GREAT
AERIAL ZOOMED-OUT VIEW OF THE ENTIRE DISTRICT AND LAND USE
DESIGNATIONS WITHIN IT.
THIS IS UP WITH OF THE LAST REMAINING INDUSTRIAL PARCELS
LOCATED BEST OF THE CHANNEL.
THE ENTIRE DISTRICT IS RMU-100 AND YOU CAN SEE THE DISTRICT
IS THERE AS WELL.
WITH IT BEING UP WITH OF THE LAST REMAINING INDUSTRIAL
PARCELS, I WILL NOTE THAT INDUSTRIAL IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT
IS INHERENTLY INCOMPATIBLE.
WITH THE DENSITY YOU WILL NOT PUT A MANUFACTURING FACILITY
IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
IT IS NO LONGER COMPATIBLE.
THIS IS MORE OF A GRANULAR REPRESENTATION OF THE PRIOR SLIDE
THAT IS SHOWING SOME PRECEDENT APPROVALS FOR CPAs IN THE
AREA.
THE YELLOW ARROWS ARE POINTING TO THE LAND IN THE SUBJECT
SITE CHANGED FROM AN INDUSTRIAL LAND USE CATEGORY NOT ONLY
MIXED USE -- MIXED-USE CATEGORY BUT SPECIFICALLY RMU-100.
THAT LEVEL OF DENSITY WE ARE REQUESTING TONIGHT HAS BEEN
APPROVED ON ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SEATS IN THE SURROUNDING
VICINITY OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THAT WAS MENTIONED BY SAM AS WELL, AND I WANT TO NOTE AGAIN,
DIRECTLY NORTH REZ 285.
AND HAD THE SAME REQUEST, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO RMU-100, A,
AND THIS WAS APPROVED BY THIS COUNCIL IN THE SUMMER OF LAST
YEAR, RELATIVELY RECENTLY.
ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPONENTS IS THE VIABILITY OF AVAILABLE
TRANSIT.
WE THINK THAT THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IS A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD
FOR INFILL REDEVELOPMENT.
AND ESPECIALLY HIGH DENSITY REDEVELOPMENT GIVEN NOT ONLY
PROXIMITY TO THE DOWNTOWN FOR BUT THE ABILITY TO GET THERE
WITHOUT USING A CAR.
THE TECO STREET CAR LINE.
HART ROUTES ALONG CHANNELSIDE.
SELMON JUST NORTH.
THE ADAMO DRIVE CORRIDOR.
TAMPA UNION STATION TO THE DISTRICT.
COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
SOMETHING YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH AND I THINK THE POINTS
THAT WEAPON MAKE PRO DEVELOPMENT IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD
AREA ARE ALSO 23578 WITH YOU AND I WANT TO REITERATE TWO OF
THOSE POINTS.
YOU CAN'T CAVEAT A LAND USE CHANGE.
SOMETHING TO DO IN A REZONING.
ADD SECURITY AND BACKSTOPS AND INTO PROOFING STANDARDS AND
ALL OF THAT STUFF CAN BE ADDED TO A PD.
CAN'T BE ADDED TO A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
NOT NECESSARILY THE PROCESS OF GET NAG GRANULAR.
THE SECOND POINT, WE FEEL THAT THE COASTAL MANAGE 789 OF THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IMPORTANT AND HAS CERTAIN POLICIES AND
OBJECTIVES, IT IS ONE SMALL SECTION IN A VERY, VERY LARGE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE FEEL THAT THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT
SUPPORTING OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES AND I WILL RUN THROUGH
THOSE RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
FIRST ONE BEING THIS IS LOCATED IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT
URBAN VILLAGE.
YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE POLICY OF DIRECTING THE GREATER
SHARE OF GROWTH TO THE URBAN VILLAGES.
COUPLE DIFFERENT POLICIES REFERENCING HIGHER DEVELOPMENT.
TONS OF HIGH DENSITY.
AND ENCOURAGING INFILL DEVELOPMENT ON UNDERUTILIZED SITE.
UTILIZATION OF THIS SPECIFIC SITE.
MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL POLICIES AS WELL WHICH AGAIN
THE RMU-100 OF THE RESIDENTIAL ON TO THE SITE.
AREAS THAT ARE OCCUPIED BY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT
ALLOWING OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA TO PROMOTE MULTI AS
WELL.
AND CHANNELSIDE DRIVE IS A MIXED USE CORRIDOR AND A HOST OF
OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES SUPPORTING DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE
MIXED USE CORRIDORS ESPECIALLY THE CONVERSION OF
NONRESIDENTIAL AS THE SITE SITS TODAY.
AND OBVIOUSLY THE HOUSING STOCK.
150 PEOPLE MOVING TO TAMPA EVERY SINGLE DAY.
CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY THAT DON'T WANT THOSE PEOPLE IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WITH THAT ENCOURAGING HOUSING ON INFILL OFFER UNUTILIZED
LAND IS TYPICALLY WELL RECEIVED IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
WHILE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES AND OBJECTIVES ARE
SUPPORTIVE OF THIS KEEP REQUEST, SO IS THE CHANNEL
DISTRICT CRA PLAN.
THING IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
A SNAPSHOT FROM THE PLAN, A DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE SPECIFIC
PLAN AND I THINK A REALLY, REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE
DISTRICT WAS AND WHERE IT STAND TODAY.
TRANSITIONING FROM AN INDUSTRIAL AREA TO URBAN MIXED USE
NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOTES LIMITED INDUSTRIAL USES IN LARGE AND
GROWING RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT THAT WE ALL KNOW IS VERY TRUE
OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
TWO SUB EXCEPTIONS IN SECTION 66 THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA
PLAN.
RECOGNIZE THE SPECIFIC SITE WITH THE BLUE STAR.
RECOGNIZED AS A PARCEL OF LAND THAT IS UNDERUTILIZED BY THE
CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA.
WE ARE HOPING TO CHANGE THAT WITH THE AND WILL USE
AMENDMENT.
THE SECOND IS A TABULATED SUMMARY OF THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP
OF THE CHANNEL DISTRICT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER.
PUBLISHED IN JANUARY 2022.
SOME OF THIS HAS CHANGED.
AS IT SAT, ACRES OF ARMY 100 IN AND HAS REDUCED DO UNTO THE
14 ACRES.
IF PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND IN REQUEST CONSISTENT BACK EARLIER
THIS MARCH.
WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT
HAVE.
THANKS.
06:51:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION?
06:51:22PM >> IT DOES, THANK YOU.
06:51:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
AGENDA NUMBER 4, FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-25.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:51:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:51:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
06:51:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BE COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSITION?
MOTION PASSES.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:51:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER FOUR,
FILE NO. TA/CPA 22-25.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
PROPERTY 1236 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL HI TO
RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE-100 RMU-100 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF
ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING FOR SEVERAL PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
06:52:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
06:52:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
06:52:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
06:52:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
06:52:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
06:52:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
06:52:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
06:52:39PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 20, 2023
AT 9:30 A.M.
06:52:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.
EXCUSE ME, ANYONE GIVING TESTIMONY IN ANY FUTURE -- FURTHER
AGENDA ITEMS, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
ANYONE GIVING ANY TYPE OF TESTIMONY.
06:53:13PM >>CLERK:
PLEASE RAZE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO
GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
06:53:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I HOPE THE TWO PEOPLE THAT WHY U.S. WALKED
IN WERE GOING TO BE SWORN IN.
AND THE TWO FOLLOWING THEM.
06:53:31PM >>CLERK:
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO
GIVE WILL BE THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
THANK YOU.
06:53:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS DOCK, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
FILE NO. AB2-22-09.
06:53:47PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CITRO AND COUNCIL,
LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
COUNCIL, THIS NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES FOR THE PROJECT AREA KNOWN AS THE HEATS.
THE APPLICANT IS RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS HOLDING LCC TO
REPRESENTED BY CATHERINE COYLE.
THIS REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES FOR A LARGE VENUE
CATEGORY WITH BEER, WEAN AND LIQUOR FOR CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES CONSUMPTION OFF-PREMISE.
I THINK IT IS EASIER -- LET ME SHOW YOU THE
AERIAL TO SHOW YOU THE BOUNDARY.
THE BOUNDARY IS IDENTIFIED IN THE RED.
AND JUST ON THIS MAP TO PROVIDE ORIENTATION, THIS IS N.
BOULEVARD THAT IS HERE ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY.
THIS IS FLORIDA AVENUE.
THIS IS TAMPA STREET.
AND THIS IS PALM AVENUE THAT IS LOCATED THERE.
THIS IS TO THE VERY NORTHERN BOUNDARY.
SO THIS PROPERTY -- THIS PROJECT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED FOR
A PD-A.
AND THAT APPROVAL WAS GIVEN IN 2021.
THAT ALLOWS A MIXTURE OF USES ON THE SITE.
THIS REQUEST IS FOR, LIKE I MENTIONED, THAT LARGE VENUE
CLASSIFICATION TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY IDENTIFIED
IN THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED AND ON THE MAP CURRENTLY ON THE
PROJECT AREA.
THERE IS AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES PERMIT WHICH IS ACTIVE
ON THE SITE.
IT IS ALSO FOR A LARGE VENUE CATEGORY, BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISE AND FOR PACKAGE SALES
CONSUMPTION OFF-PREMISE ALSO.
THIS GO BEFORE YOU ADDS AN ADDITIONAL 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF
ALCOHOL SALE FOR RESTAURANTS USES AND ADDITIONAL 3,000
SQUARE FEET FOR OTHER USES, WHICH WILL BE -- WHICH IS
IDENTIFIED IN THE CHART THAT I WILL PLACE ON THE ELMO FOR
YOU NOW.
AND ALSO, THIS MODIFIES THE HOTEL SQUARE FOOT AND BY
REDUCING THE HOTEL SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM 6,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THIS -- THIS WOULD INCREASE OUR OTHER SALES AREAS.
SOME WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS TO PUT THIS UP ON THE ELMO
WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT.
ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
WITHIN THE SITE PLAN, THEY ESTABLISHED AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES SCHEDULE.
SO WITHIN THAT OVERALL PROJECT BOUNDARY AS THE LOCATION
COMES IN.
SAY A LOCATION FOR A RESTAURANT COMES IN AND THEY COME FOR A
SIGN-OFF FROM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION FROM THE ZONING
OFFICE.
THE DEVELOPER HAS TO GIVE AN OVERALL ENTITLED CHART SIMILAR
TO THIS.
SHOW THE CATEGORY BEING REQUESTED, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND
THE DRAW DOWN AND WHAT IS REMAINING IN THAT CATEGORY.
AND SO THAT IS WHAT IS ON THE SITE CURRENTLY.
AND THAT THAT WILL REMAKE THOSE CONDITIONS.
SO THIS SITE PLAN ALSO COMES WITH THE OVERALL ENTITLEMENT
AND ANYTHING WITHIN THIS PROJECT AREA MUST REPORT THE WAY
THE RESTAURANT WILL REPORT ANNUALLY IF THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF
THIS BOUNDARY.
AND ALSO THE SITE PLAN DOES INDICATE NO OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED
SOUND PERMITTED AFTER MIDNIGHT FOR BAR LOUNGE USE AND 2 A.M.
FOR PLACE OF ASSEMBLY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW YOU -- LET'S GO BACK ON THE AERIAL
JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE SURROUND WILLING SO THIS IS THE SITE
AGAIN HERE IN RED AND N. BOULEVARD.
YOU CAN SEE THE PD-A LAND USE.
PRESIDENT PD-A ZONING.
AND TO THE NOTE A MIXTURE OF THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
ALONG WITH SOME CG USES AS WE GET TO THE EAST ALONG HIGHLAND
AND ALONG TAMPA AND FLORIDA.
AND I HAVE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
SO THIS IS THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE.
JUST AT THE RIVER LOOKING SOUTH.
THIS HAD THIS IS ALSO LOOKING SOUTH OF YOUR CENTRAL.
THIS IS A VIEW CENTRAL OF THE SITE.
THIS IS REALLY AT THE TOP OF THE BRIDGE ON BOULEVARD LOOKING
NORTH.
NORTH CENTRAL TO THE SITE AND THEN THE EASTERN BOUNDARY IS
TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PICTURE.
THAT IS FURTHER EAST ON THE SITE.
ARMATURE WORKS THERE.
THIS IS HEADED EAST TOWARD TAMPA AND THIS IS THE EASTERN
BOUNDARY OF THE SITE.
ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED
WITH THIS REQUEST JUST SO COUNCIL CAN SEE.
IT WAS, OF COURSE, PROVIDED TO COUNCIL BUT FOR THE PUBLIC'S
BENEFIT.
THIS WAS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED AND IDENTIFIES THE BOUNDARY.
THE SALES AREA BOUNDARY IS IDENTIFIED IN THE BLACK OUTLINE.
06:58:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS DOCK, CAN YOU LEAVE THAT THERE -- WITH
THAT, I WILL BE ASKING THE PETITIONER SOME QUESTIONS.
06:59:08PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ABSOLUTELY, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
THE STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND WE FIND THE REQUEST
CONSISTENT.
NO SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST
AND SECOND READING.
NO WAIVERS REQUESTED WITH THIS REQUEST.
SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES STATUTE'S PRESENTATION AND I AM
AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
06:59:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK.
06:59:34PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU.
AND I WILL LEAVE THAT.
06:59:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PETITIONER.
06:59:39PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:59:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MADAM CLERK.
06:59:53PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
CATHERINE COYLE, URBAN PLANNING.
NORTH SWAUNNEE AVENUE REPRESENTING RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS.
I WILL GO THROUGH A BRIEF HISTORY.
THIS IS THE VIRTUAL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT MISS DOCK
PRESENTED AS FAR AS THE CURRENT 'APPROVAL.
THIS IS THE CERTIFIED SITE PLAN THAT IS ACTUALLY ON THE
PROPERTY TODAY.
THAT IS FROM 2013.
THE ORIGINAL WAS IN 2009 AND THIS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR QUITE
A WHILE.
2013 A SLIGHT TWEAK WHEN THE NEW OWNER CAME IN TO MATCH IT
WITH THE ZONING AT THE TIME.
THE RED BOUNDARY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT SITS ON THE PROPERTY TODAY.
THE RED BOUNDARY IS THE ALCOHOL SALES BOUNDARY.
YOU CAN SEE THE STREET GRID IS NOT ACTUALLY WHAT IS OUT
THERE TODAY.
THIS WAS THE CONSENSUAL STREET GRID FROM THE ORIGINAL
REZONING IN 2006 AND CARRIED THROUGH BECAUSE IT WASN'T DONE
AT THAT TIME.
THIS BLUE BOUNDARY THAT IS SHOWN IS THE OUTDOOR SALES AREA.
AS IT WAS THOUGHT AT THE TIME, THIS IS THE OLD -- WELL, THE
ARMATURE WORKS BUILDING AT THE TIME.
THE OLD ARMATURE WORKS BUILDING.
AND THIS IS THE WATER WORKS BUILDING WHICH IS -- WELL, THE
OLD BACK BUILDING, 220 AND WATER WORKS PARK.
NOW ON THIS APPROVAL AS MISS DOCK MENTIONED, AND CITY
PROVIDE A COPY TO YOU.
THERE ARE CONDITIONS SHE WENT THROUGH THAT DESCRIBED HOW
THEY -- THERE IS A SUB PERMIT PROCESS.
A BLANKET ALCOHOL WITH A VERY SPECIFIC USE TABLE THAT THE
DEVELOPER DRAWS DOWN FROM WITH EACH USE AS A BLOCK GETS
BELT, UNITS COME IN.
A SMALL RESTAURANT.
ICE CREAM SHOP.
WHOEVER WANT ALCOHOL COMES IN AND SIGN OFF THROUGH LAND
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ANNUALLY ALONG WITH EACH DRAW DOWN, THE DEVELOPER TURNS IN A
MASTER COPY OF HOW EVERYTHING TABULATES AND ANNUALLY THEY
PROVIDE AN UPDATED COPY AS WELL.
TO DATE, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, NO VIOLATIONS OF THE ANNUAL
REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR ANY OF THE RESTAURANTS.
OAR ANY SPECIFIC ALCOHOL CONDITIONS IN THE APPROVAL.
NOW UNDER THIS CURRENT APPROVAL AS IT SITS, 116,000, YOU WILL
NOTICE ON THE FRONT OF THE STAFF REPORT 116,000 SQUARE FEET.
WHAT WE ARE RUNNING UP AGAINST TO THE PROPOSED PLAN -- THIS
IS ACTUALLY WHAT IS ON FILE FOR WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED.
THE BLACK BOUNDARY IS THE ALCOHOL BOUNDARY.
WHAT I MARKED ON THE ONES IN FRONT OF YOU, TOO, IN YELLOW.
THREE AREAS, THE ADDITIONAL AND WILL AREA.
THE THREE PIECES THAT ARE PHYSICALLY ADDITIONS TO THE
BOUNDARY THAT IS ON -- IN READ ON THE PURPLE PLAN.
I NOTED IN THE TABLE WHAT THEY ARE.
THERE IS A LITTLE KIOSK TYPE BUILDING THERE THAT SELLS SOME
KIND OF SUNDRY OR ICE CREAM.
THAT IS THE BUMP OUT THERE.
YOU WILL NOTE IF YOU RECALL THE ZONING GOES ALL THE WAY UP
TO PALM, BUT NO ALCOHOL TO CONFRONT PALM AND NO COMMERCIAL
USES THAT CONFRONTS PALM.
THAT IS WHY IT SPLITS THE BLOCK.
HERE ON TAMPA STREET, THE ZONING WAS BUMPED OUT TO
ACCOMMODATE THE HOTEL.
THIS WAS THE HOTEL USE THAT WAS BUMPED UP FOR THE ROOM COUNT
IN THE PROPOSED TABLE.
AND THIS AREA 3 IS THE AREA ADJACENT TO THE OUTDOOR AREA.
07:04:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:04:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU HAVE PALM AND ROSS CONFUSED.
I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK --
07:04:21PM >> I MEANT THEY CAN FRONT PALM AND NOT ROSS.
07:04:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WAS GOING TO STAY A LOT OF BARS ALONG PALM,
OR RESTAURANTS.
07:04:27PM >> I APOLOGIZE.
THANK YOU FOR WATCHING THAT.
SO WHAT I DID HERE WAS -- IF I CAN ZOOM IN SO YOU CAN SEE A
LITTLE BIT BETTER.
THE PUBLIC -- THE BLUE BOUNDARY IS WHAT IS SHOWN.
THE OUTDOOR SALES WHAT IS IN RED WITH THE HASH MARK IS WHAT
IS PROPOSED.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE GRID HAS CHANGED.
PLATTED AND BUILT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU CAN SEE HOW IT IS ANGLED STREETS.
THIS ANGEL MET THE PROPOSED CONCEPTUAL STREETS.
NOW THAT THE ROADS HAVE BEEN PLATTED AND BUILT, THIS OUTDOOR
SALES AREA CROSSES OVER BLOCK 9 WHICH DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE
AND TRUEING IT UP TO THE ACTUAL GRID AS PLATTED.
ON THE SECOND SHEET OF THE PLAN ESSENTIALLY SAME FORMAT.
YOU HAVE REMOTES IN THE TABLE.
THE NOTES IN PARTICULAR, WE DID MAKE TWO CHANGES THAT WERE
REQUIRED IN THE PREVIOUS STAFF REPORT.
NOTE 8 NEEDED TO BE REMOVED FOR THE PROPOSED NOISE
CONDITIONS.
FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
WE REMOVED THOSE.
THEN THERE WAS -- THERE WAS A BAD REFERENCE, UNFORTUNATELY,
JUST A MISREFERENCE.
THE ENGINEER HAD WRITTEN THIS AB 2 -- REALLY V 13 BECAUSE
USED TO BE V CASES.
THAT WAS THE CORRECTION OF THAT.
THAT IS WHAT I NOTED HERE IN THE BLUE BOX JUST FOR YOUR EASE
TO SEE WHAT WAS DONE AND WE RENUMBERED 8 TO 9 TO CHEAP IT UP
SO THERE WOULD BE A STRIKE THROUGH.
AS FAR AS THE REQUEST GOES, YOU CAN SEE FROM MISS DOCK'S
PICTURES, IF YOU RECALL, ESPECIALLY THE ONE SHOT LOOKING
NORTH.
A LOT OF EMPTY LAND OUT THERE.
STILL A LOT OF AREA TO BE BUILT.
THE TABLE WITH 119,000 SQUARE FEET THE MAJORITY HAS BEEN
EATEN UP, OVER 56,000 OF THAT IS ARMATURE WORKS WITH SPOUTS
COMING IN AND ALL OF THE OTHER -- SPROUTS COMING IN AND ALL
THE USES FROM PALM, NOT ROSS, HAVE EATEN UP A LOT OF THAT
ALCOHOL ENTITLEMENT.
GIVEN LARGE SWATHS OF LAND LEFT.
AND BETTER TO PLAN FOR THIS AS NEW TENANTS COME IN AND
CONTROL IT UNDER ONE UMBRELLA CONTROL BECAUSE IT IS ONE
DEVELOPER, MADE SENSE TO ASK FOR THIS INCREMENTAL CHANGE TO
226 WHICH WILL COVER THE HOTEL.
SPROUTS CAN BE PULLED OUT AND HAVE ITS OWN APPROVAL AS
OPPOSED TO DRAWING DOWN FROM RESTAURANT USES AND OTHER
SUNDRY USES IN THE TABLE AND BETTER ALLOCATE FOR THE ACTUAL
USES THAT ARE PLANNED TO COME IN.
WE HAVE NO OBJECTIONS FROM STAFF AS MISS DOCK MENTIONED.
WE ARE REQUESTING NO WAIVERS.
AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU'RE APPROVAL.
07:07:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS COYLE?
07:07:37PM >> THEN I WILL SIT DOWN.
07:07:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS COYLE, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS -- I HAVE
JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
07:07:42PM >> OKAY.
PLEASE BEAR WITH ME.
HE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS -- DOUBLING THE SIZE TO 226,000
SQUARE FOOT.
THE PLAN IS TO PREPARE SO WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO COME IN AN
PURCHASE THESE PROPERTIES OR RENT THESE PROPERTIES, IT IS
ALREADY GOING TO BE THERE.
IN THE MEANTIME, SOMEBODY WANTS TO PULL UP A PICKUP TRUCK
AND SELL BEER OUT OF A COOLER, THAT CAN BE OKAY.
07:08:24PM >> NO.
ALCOHOL SALES IS NOT --
07:08:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HALF THESE QUESTIONS WILL BE RHETORICAL.
07:08:30PM >> NOT PERMITTED WITHIN PARKING ALERTED AREAS AND THOSE ARE
DESIGNATED PARKING AREAS UNTIL THEY BUILT.
07:08:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH JUST AN OPEN
CONTAINER.
WHERE IS THE LIABILITY GOING TO GO?
WHO IS THIS UMBRELLA UNDER?
07:08:46PM >> RIVER.
SIDE HEIGHTS, ADAM HARDEN AND CHAZ BROCK.
THEY ARE THE SOLE OWNERS.
07:09:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I KNOW THIS IS A FUTURE USE, TELL WHERE THE
PACKAGE STORE WILL BE?
07:09:05PM >> I CANNOT TELL YOU WHERE IT IS GOING TO BE, I CAN NOT, NO.
IF I CAN GIVE YOU A COMPARISON, THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 50
ACRES OF LAND ON THE SIDE OF N. BOULEVARD.
THE ALCOHOL ITSELF IS UNDER 40 ACRES OF LAND WITH 226,000
PROPOSED SQUARE FEET.
119 ALREADY APPROVED.
AS A COMPARISON, MIDTOWN, 19 ACRES AND 1.4 --
07:09:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT IS ONE THAT I THOUGHT WAS RIDICULOUS.
AND THEN THE HARBOR ONE THAT I THOUGHT WAS RIDICULOUS ALSO.
07:09:41PM >> I WILL SAY THIS ONE IS MORE SCALED BACK THAN THE OTHER
ONES OF THE UMBRELLAS.
AND IT IS VERY TIGHTLY CONTROL.
AND.
NO ALCOHOL INCIDENTS WITH ANY REPORTING REQUIREMENT OR
ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE COULD EVEN IF.
07:09:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS COYLE?
THANK YOU, MISS COYLE.
THEN IN THE -- IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE NO. AB2-22-09?
YES, SIR.
07:10:11PM >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS MATT MAY.
RESIDE 206 WEST ROSS AVENUE.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
ITCH STOOD BEFORE YOU HERE PROBABLY ALMOST TEN YEARS AGO
ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE CRA IN TAMPA HEIGHTS FOR
THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH THESE DEVELOPERS.
I STOOD BEFORE YOU HERE ASKING FOR THE LOT -- FOR THE FIRST
ALCOHOL 'APPROVAL FOR THESE DEVELOPERS.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK FOR YOU TO NOT APPROVE THIS
MONUMENTAL REQUEST FOR A CRAZY AMOUNT OF ALCOHOL SQUARE
FOOTAGE.
BASICALLY BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T EARNED IT.
THEY ENTERED INTO A DEVELOPMENT 'AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
I FEEL THIS ALCOHOL REQUEST SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ALONG WITH
THEIR COMMITMENTS MADE IN THE CRA.
WHAT THEY PLEDGED TO DO.
TO CREATE A NEIGHBORHOOD IN OUR CITY.
TO RESPECT THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD THAT EXISTED THERE
BEFORE.
I HAVE BEEN THERE 15 YEARS.
MY NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR GENERATIONS ON THE SAME
PROPERTY THAT FACES THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND UNFORTUNATELY.
WE ARE NINE YEARS IN TO A TEN-YEAR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THE PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETE.
BY MY CLAUSE, 30% COMPLETE.
VACANT LAND EVERYWHERE.
ONE DAY IT IS A PARKING LOT.
ONE DAY APPARENTLY ALCOHOL SQUARE FOOTAGE.
HOW THAT WORKS.
ACRES AND ACRES OF TEMPORARY PARKING, RIGHT.
ONE PUBLIC PARKING GARAGE FULLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC TIS
CONNECTED TO THE MAIN.
NO SIGNAGE, NO DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE, NO PERMANENT DIRECTION
AM SIGNAGE AND WORST OF ALL, THE DEVELOPERS ARE COMPLETELY
DISENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY UNTIL IT COMES TO ALCOHOL
REZONING TIME OR CRA MODIFICATION TIME.
AND I FIND THAT TO BE TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE.
THOSE OF US WHO STOOD HERE BEFORE YOU IN THE CITY, CITY
STAFF, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE MAYOR AT THE TIME.
TRUST US.
YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE PROBLEMS LIKE THEY HAD ON SOUTH TAMPA
IN SOUTH HOW BARRED.
THE DEVELOPER SAID THE SAME THING.
NINE YEARS LATER, WE DON'T HAVE A RESIDENTIAL PARKING AREA
IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD DESPITE THE DESPERATE EFFORTS TO WORK
WITH THE CITY.
WE SEE THE DEVELOPERS CLOSE STREET AD HOC WITH THE BICYCLE
RACK.
NO SIGNAGE.
CALLED THE CITY STAFF.
THOSE GUYS DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
I FIND THAT COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE WHEN THEY HAVE 100,000
SQUARE FEET OF ALCOHOL ZONING.
PLEASE DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY MORE ENTITLEMENTS THAT THEY MET
THE OBLIGATIONS THAT THEY MADE TO YOU, TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LOVE A DRINK AS MUCH AS THE NEXT GUY.
I LIKE A COD CUBA LIBRE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE MY 12-YEAR-OLD SON TO MAKE IT TO 13.
NO ALCOHOL INFRACTIONS.
MAYBE NOT FORMAL ONCE, CHECK WITH TRANSPORTATION OF HOW MANY
TIMES TO REPLACE THE SIGNS IN THE ROUNDABOUT ON PALM AND
HIGHLAND BECAUSE THEY DRIVE STRAIGHT THROUGH THEM WITH
INADEQUATE LIGHTING AND SIGNAGE.
I FIND COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE AND I HOPE YOU DO AS WELL.
07:13:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
07:13:24PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
RICKY PETERIKA, DARK MOSS.
A RESIDENT OF TAMPA HEIGHTS.
AND I ENJOY OFTEN TWO OR THREE TIME A WEEK THE SITE THAT IS
THE SUBJECT OF THIS REQUEST.
TO BE BRIEF, I FIND IT TO BE INCREMENTAL.
DEVELOPMENTS OF THIS SCALE CAN BE CHALLENGING, JUST FROM A
TREE PERSPECTIVE, SO I DON'T FIND THIS TO BE PARTICULARLY
SURPRISING THAT THERE IS SOME TIDYING UP TO DO OVER THE
TEN-YEAR LIFESPAN OF A PROJECT AND THAT IS HOW I
CHARACTERIZE THE REQUEST AND REQUEST WHY YOU ARE SUPPORT.
THANK YOU.
07:14:13PM >> MAY I APPROACH THIS WITH COUNCIL?
THANK YOU, AND GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
BRIAN SEEL, PARLIAMENTARIAN OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
313 WEST PARK AVENUE, THREE BLOCKS NORTH OF ARMATURE WORKS.
THCA OPPOSES THIS AB APPLICATION ON TWO GROUNDS.
FIRST DIRECT SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES WITH THE APPLICATION ITSELF.
NOT A ZERO SUM DEBATE IF THE HIGHLIGHTS DEVELOPMENT CAN ONLY
BE GOOD OR ONLY BAD.
WE ALSO KNOW THERE ARE TRADE-OFFS FOR LIVING IN URBAN VERSUS
RURAL AREAS MORE NOISE, TRAFFIC, LIGHTS AND SUCH.
BUT SERIOUS OPERATIONAL ISSUES THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT NEARBY
RESIDENTS WE WOULD LIKE ADDRESSED AS THIS SITE GETS MORE
BELT UP WITH MORE DINING AND ENTERTAINMENT VENUES THAN
ATTRACT REGIONAL CUSTOMERS.
AP 2 PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES TO CORRECT OPPORTUNITIES SUCH AS
PARKING, NOISE, HOURS AND SPECIAL EVENTS LIMITATIONS.
CITY REGULARLY PLACES THESE TYPE OF CONDITIONS ON WET
ZONINGS AND ESTABLISHMENTS WHICH ARE BINDING AND
UNFORCEABLE.
BY PROVIDED THE APPLICANT ABOUT COMMONSENSE CONDITIONS FOR
EFFORT AB 2 BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM OUR RESIDENT AND THIS IS
WHAT SITS IN YOU NOW.
THE APPLICANT ACKNOWLEDGED TO RIGHT AND NEVER RESPONDED TO
ITS CONTENT OR DISCUSSED WITH US IT SINCE DECEMBER 4.
HAVE NOT FULL FELT THE COMMITMENT DURING THE LAST CONTINUE
WARNS THAT WE SUPPORTED AT TIME.
I ATTENDED THE COUNCIL MEETING IN SUPPORT OF THE CONTINUANCE
ON BEHALF OF THE ORGANIZATION TO GIVE THE APPLICANT MORE
TIME TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC.
THE APPLICANT'S STATED MULTIPLE TIME THEY NEEDED A LONGER
CONTINUANCE BEYOND THE 180-DAY MARK TO MEET WITH THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AT THAT MEETING, 30 MINUTES WERE SPENT DEBATING DUE TO A
DEADLOCK VOTE.
RULED OVER TO DECEMBER 15.
I DEFAULT RULES.
I WILL LIKE TO QUOTE THAT THAT THE DECEMBER 15 MEETING WHEN
THAT CONTINUANCE WAS.
COUNCILMAN CITRO SAID, WHAT WERE THE ACT OF EXTENUATING
CIRCUMSTANCES.
MISS COYLE HAD A MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION.
WE HAD A MEETING THAT WENT VERY WELL AND TRYING TO GET ON
THEIR FEBRUARY 23 FOR THE GENERAL MEETING.
MR. CITRO.
ARE YOU ASKING FOR CONTINUANCE FOR THAT TIME AND PLUS A
WAIVER OF 180 DAYS AND YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES ARE --
MISS COYLE, OUT OF OUR CONTROL OVER FORCE MAJEURE, AND WE DO
NOT CONTROL THE CALENDARS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS
AND COUNCIL'S CALENDARS.
WE WANT TO TALK BACK AND WHEN WE COORDINATE WITH THEM.
FEBRUARY 13 AND 20, I E-MAILED MISS COYLE IF THEY WERE
FOLLOWING MAKE ANY OF THCA'S REQUESTED CHANGES.
THE ONLY QUESTION RESPONDED WAS A CONFIRMATION OF TONIGHT'S
DATE.
THE APPLICANT HAS NOT MET WITH NOR HOSTED IN I ADDITIONAL
PUBLIC OUTREACH FOR MEMBERS OF TAMPA HEIGHTS AND RIDGEWOOD
PARK SENSE THAT NIGHT.
AND TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF ON VIOLATIONS.
TWO DAYS AGO I SAW A STAFF REPORT FROM MARCH 16 UPLOADED
TO ACELA.
THIS APPLICANT WAS GIVEN 90 ADDITIONAL DAYS TO CONDUCT
FURTHER PUBLIC OUTREACH AND WILL HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
THANK YOU.
07:17:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
MISS COLE, YOU HAVE REBUTTAL.
07:18:09PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
I BELIEVE THIS IS IN YOUR RECORD, BUT I WILL GO AHEAD AND
SUBMIT IT.
THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
PACKET, WHICH IS ON FILE WITH A SYNOPSIS OF ALL OF THE
CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MR. SEEL AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS FROM
IF HONESTLY MARCH OF LAST YEAR ALL THE WAY TO I BELIEVE
YESTERDAY AND WITH ALL THE EXPECTED RESPONSES WE HAD FOR
EACH INDIVIDUAL QUESTION.
THE -- IT IS TRUE, WE DID HAVE A MEETING DECEMBER 14.
WE DID -- WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT TURNOUT.
MR. HERNDON DID RESPOND BACK IN JANUARY TO MR. SEEL
REQUESTING THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS AND
THE -- AND THE COMMITTEE -- NOT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS BUT
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEMBERS TO REACH OUT TO THEM
INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL TO TRY TO SCHEDULE SOMETHING.
HE DID RESPOND WITH AN E-MAIL WITH WHO WAS SLATED TO BE
ELECTED.
WHO WAS NOMINATED FOR THE VOTE, WHICH WAS COMING UP IN
FEBRUARY.
WE HAD ANTICIPATED BEING INVITED; HOWEVER, WE WEREN'T FOR
WHATEVER REASON -- TO THE MEETING.
LET'S SEE.
AS FAR AS THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT THE PARKING.
NEIGHBORHOOD PARKING.
RESIDENT PARKING PASS PROGRAMS.
IT IS ACTUALLY IN THAT ENGAGEMENT PACKET AS WELL.
THERE WAS AN EFFORT.
WE JUST DOUBLED CHECKED YESTERDAY WITH THE CITY MOBILITY
DEPARTMENT, BECAUSE THERE WAS AN EFFORT THAT MR. HERNDON
TRIED TO PUT IT TOGETHER.
AND FROM MR. RIVOLTE WITH MOBILITY.
HE RESPONDED AT THAT MR. SEEL WAS NOT ABLE TO GET 50% VOTE
FROM AREA RESIDENTS TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT THAT PROGRAM.
SO MR. HARD DID TRY TO SUPPORT THAT, BUT DID NOT SECURE THE
50% VOTE THAT IS REQUIRED SO MY CLIENT SHOULDN'T BE HELD
RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A RESIDENT PARKING
PROGRAM.
AS FAR AS THE REQUEST GOES, I WILL GO BACK TO WHAT IS
PROPOSED.
IT IS AN INCREMENTAL CHANGE AS MR. PETERIKA MENTIONED DURING
HIS COMMENTS.
MR. WILLETS ALSO IS A FORMER BOARD MEMBER AND THE LETTER IS
ON THE RECORD THAT HE IS IN FAVOR AS WELL.
HE CAN ACCOUNT FOR ISSUES BETWEEN CERTAIN PERSONALITIES.
ALL I CAN SAY THAT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST IS AN INCREMENTAL
CHANGE WHAT IS ALREADY APPROVED.
IT RECOGNIZES THE TRUEING UP OF THE ACTUAL GRID AS IT EXISTS
AS IT WAS PLATTED.
TRUES UP THE OUTDOOR SALES AREA TO THE ACTUAL GRID THAT WAS
BUILT AND ACCOUNTS FOR THE ADDITIONAL THREE SMALL AREAS THAT
WERE ADDED IN THE REZONING THAT YOU APPROVED LAST YEAR AND
ACCOUNTS FOR THE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOT AND ENTITLEMENTS
THAT YOU IMPROVE IN THE REZONING WHICH ARE NORMALLY -- USES
THAT HAVE ACCESSORY ALCOHOL SUCH AS HOTELS, GROCERY STORES,
RESTAURANTS, AND RETAIL.
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
07:21:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:21:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HAVE A CONCERN OF THINGS THAT DON'T
EXIST, BUT YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING AN AB LICENSE.
I MEAN, THAT IS A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY OVER THERE.
MUCH.
07:21:37PM >> THIS AN AB PERMIT OVER THE VACANT LAND RIGHT NOW.
GEOGRAPHICALLY IT IS NOT CHANGING WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE
THREE SMALL PIECES MARKED IN YELLOW THAT WERE ADDED IN THE
REZONING.
07:22:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:22:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ARE THE -- WHAT ARE YOUR -- WHAT IS YOUR
OPPOSITION TO ADDING SOME OF THESE SPECIFICATIONS FOR
SPECIAL EVENTS, DEFINITIONS, LIMITS ON THE NUMBER AND
DURATION OF THESE TYPES OF EVENTS.
IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED WITH
THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT THEY DIDN'T GET ANSWERS TO -- I AM
HESITANT BECAUSE IT SEEMS -- THAT THESE ARE THINGS THAT --
THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH.
AND NOW THEY ARE JUST SORT OF OUT THERE.
WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE -- WHAT THE ISSUES -- WHAT THE
CONDITIONS COULD BE.
I MEAN, THESE ARE VERY SPECIFIC.
07:22:56PM >> IF YOU WERE SPEAKING OF THE E-MAIL THAT WAS 12/4.
LANGUAGE TO BE ADDED TO AB 2.
07:23:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE AB 2 --
07:23:07PM >> A LOT OF THIS ON HERE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
ALCOHOL.
I WANT TO POINT TO THAT OUT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPECIAL EVENT PIECE, THIS IS A PD-A AND
THE PD-A HAS SPECIAL CONDITIONS.
AND IT IS IN THE ZONING.
WE DOESN'T TO CREATE A STANDARD WHERE THERE ARE TWO
DIFFERENT STANDARDS AND IT IS DIFFICULT TO FIRST DEGREE OUT
WHAT TO ENFORCE.
AND HOW TO OPERATE.
07:23:37PM >> THESE ARE PRETTY REASONABLE.
SMALL.
750.
LARGE IS ANYTHING OVER 750.
07:23:51PM >>THE ONLY THING I WILL ADD TO THAT NOT TYPICAL THAT YOU
WILL CREATE DEFINITIONS FOR USES AND OUTLINE THEM AND THAT
TYPE OF THING IN A SINGLE ZONING.
THIS IS THE SAME INSTANCE -- THE EXACT STEAM EXAMPLE WHAT WE
WERE TRYING TO DO WITH THE NOISE THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
TOLD US NOT TO DO.
WORKSHOP TRYING TO ADD DEFINED CONDITIONS FOR NOISE THAT
DIDN'T APPLY IN THE AREA TO THE SPECIFIC CASE.
AND WE WERE TOLD WE COULD NOT DO THAT BECAUSE LEGALLY IT IS
JUST THIS CASE.
AGAIN, CREATING USES AND CREATING DEFINITIONS WHEN IT ONLY
APPLIES TO ONE PARTICULAR THING.
YOU CAN CERTAINLY ASK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, BUT SEEMS THE
SAME TO ME.
THAT IT WOULD NOT BE A NORMAL PLACE -- THERE WILL BE A CODE
AMENDMENT TO THAT.
07:24:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, PUTTING SOME CONDITIONS ON -- I KNOW IT
SAYS THAT THEY TOOK OUT THE NOISE CONDITION.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THEY HAD TO --
07:25:10PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
DEPARTMENT.
WE DID RECOMMEND AND REQUEST THAT THEY REMOVE THAT, BECAUSE,
AS YOU KNOW, NOISE IS DEALT WITH IN DIFFERENT CHAPTER --
CHAPTER 14.
AND WE PROVIDE THE DECIBEL LEVEL STANDARDS, THE VARIOUS
STANDARDS FOR NOISE LEVEL MEASUREMENT IN THE CODE AND NOT IN
INDIVIDUAL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMITS.
WE THOUGHT THAT THAT IS WHERE IT BELONGED.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A LEGISLATIVE CHANGE SHOULD BE MADE
IN THE CODE AND SHOULD APPLY CITY WIDE WITH AN ALCOHOL
BEVERAGE PERMIT.
UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE A COPY AND I DON'T KNOW THAT
STAFF HAS BEEN PROVIDED A COPY OF THE PROPOSED CONDITION
THAT MR. SEEL HAS PROVIDED TO YOU.
HAVING NOT HAD THE BENEFIT OF LOOKING AT THEM, I CAN'T SPEAK
TO THE SPECIFICS OF IT.
BUT COUNCIL CAN CERTAINLY ADD CONDITIONS OR MODIFY
CONDITIONS IN THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IF
YOU FEEL IT IS ESSENTIAL TO IT THE -- TO YOUR DECISION.
07:26:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE SAYING WE CAN ADD --
07:26:08PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
CERTAINLY.
07:26:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU JUST SAID WE CAN'T.
07:26:11PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
THE NOISE CONDITION IS WHAT I WAS
TALKING ABOUT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SPECIFICS ARE THAT WERE PROPOSED OR
INCLUDED IN MR. SEEL.
AND I DON'T WANT TO BE PUT UNDER PRESSURE TO READ THIS
EVENING.
07:26:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
THESE CONCERNS SEEM INCREDIBLY VALUE HE HAD, AND WHETHER OR
NOT IT HAS TO DO WITH THIS, I -- I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE
NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A CHANCE THEY ARE
TRYING TO TAKE TO ACTUALLY GET RESPONSE.
FROM THE DEVELOPER.
I COULD BE WRONG THERE.
I WILL LET THEM SPEAK TO THAT.
BUT HE THINKS MR. GUDES HAD A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
07:26:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I BE RECOGNIZED, SIR.
07:26:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
07:26:57PM >> EVERYTHING COMES TO PASS.
YOU SEE, WE TALKED ABOUT -- I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT NOISE.
TALKING ABOUT ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS THAT DON'T -- WE DON'T
HAVE.
TO ME IN MY MIND.
I ONLY HAVE A 8th GRADE EDUCATION.
BUT IN MY MIND ARMATURE WORKS WILL TURN INTO AN
ENTERTAINMENT AREA.
THAT IS WHAT THAT IS GOING TO BE.
NOW YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE SAY.
AND I UNDERSTAND HOW THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS CHANGED.
AND THE HOUSES UP FRONT AVOCADO TREES.
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SAYING A RESIDENTIAL AREA WITH NICE,
FANCY APARTMENT AND YOU WERE GIVEN THE CRA AND SOME OF WHY
YOU ARE COMMITMENTS HAVEN'T BEEN FULFILLED.
SO I CAN UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAYING THEY EMBRACED
IT.
AND GAVE YOU IN CRA AND TAMPA HEIGHTS AND OTHER PORTIONS OF
TAMPA HEIGHTS HAVE A CHANCE TO BE PART OF IT.
ONLY A SELECT AREA.
AND WE ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS THEY SAY.
WHEN DO WE GET OUR DELIVERABLES.
THAT IS WHY I QUESTIONED ALL THE IT SHALL IN MY MIND SAYS
ARMATURE WORKS AND MY COLLEAGUE.
TALK ABOUT THE RESTAURANT AND WARS ABOUT MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ
IS WORKING ON IT.
THIS IS WHAT IT HAS TO BE WITH THIS MUCH ALCOHOL.
I DON'T CARE WHAT HAD YOU SAY, FLIP IT THE WAY YOU IT.
APPROVING MORE A GETTING THE DELIVERABLES.
THE COMMUNITY HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THE DELIVERABLES.
07:29:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:29:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM TRYING TO GO BACK AND REMEMBER WHAT
HAPPENED YEARS AGO.
EXCUSE ME, ATTORNEY -- I AM JUST GOING BACK YEARS AGO.
AND I BELIEVE AT ONE TIME, WASN'T THIS WHOLE AREA WET ZONED?
THE WHOLE AREA?
07:29:31PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
THE WHOLE AREA OF THE HEIGHTS?
THERE IS A ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE PERMIT FROM 2013.
THAT DOES COVER THIS AREA.
SO WHAT THIS -- THIS IS ONLY ALLOWS 119,000 SQUARE FEET OF
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES SQUARE FOOT AND.
THIS APPLICATION SEEKS TO INCREASE THAT TO $226,000 SQUARE
FEET.
IT IS SEEKING TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR
ALCOHOL BEVERAGES.
07:29:56PM >> IT WAS ZONED.
07:30:00PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
WITHIN THE SAME FOOTPRINT.
INCREASING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AVAILABLE FOR ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGE SALES.
07:30:11PM >> JUST TO CLARIFY THE SAME FOOTPRINT WITH THE ADDITION AND
THE LITTLE NOTCH AT THE TOP.
07:30:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I REMEMBER IT WAS DRY, ALL OF IT AND THEN
ALCOHOL.
AND ALL OF IT WENT ALCOHOL.
07:30:25PM >> THE ORIGINAL WAS 2008, YEAH.
2013 WAS JUST AN UPDATE WHEN THE NEW OWNER CAME IN.
BUT IT REALLY DIDN'T CHANGE MUCH AT THAT POINT.
THAT IS WHY IT STILL HAS THE OLD GRAPHIC FOR THE OLD STREET.
AND I -- THE ONLY THING I WOULD COUNTER ALSO IS WITH THE
AGREEMENT, CRA, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE
AND I TOTALLY HEAR YOU.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXPECTING THE IMPROVEMENT.
MY CLIENT -- ANY CLIENT, ANY DEVELOPER CAN'T NECESSARILY BE
HELD TO WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MARKET.
BUT I CAN SAY BEING THE ORIGINAL PLANNER ON THIS FROM 2005
ON THIS WAS IT SHALL IT WAS A WASTELAND FOR A LONG TIME
BEFORE THIS DEVELOPER CAME IN.
AND HE HAS ACTUALLY DONE AT LEAST HALF OF IT.
AND THERE ARE PLANS IN RIGHT NOW FOR INCREMENTAL APPROVAL
FOR SECOND PHASE OF THE APARTMENT AND FOR OF THE HOTEL.
SO THERE ARE MORE BUILDINGS COMING.
AS HE BUILDS THEM OUT, THAT IS WHY HE IS ASKING FOR THE EN
CEMENTAL CHANGE.
IF YOU WERE HERE ASKING FOR 174 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF
ALCOHOL LIKE MIDTOWN GOT, IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT QUESTION
ALL TOGETHER, I THINK.
BUT AGAIN 9 -- HOW THIS IS OVER -- ALMOST 40 ACRES OF AND
WILL, IT IS SPREAD OUT.
IT IS NOT AS CONCENTRATED.
THANK YOU.
07:32:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:32:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MISS JOHNSON-VELEZ.
THANK YOU -- TIME SORRY.
07:32:15PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
THAT'S OKAY.
07:32:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT ARE THE OTHER -- SO WITH THIS ALCOHOL,
WE CAN'T -- WE CAN'T REAR THE DEVELOPER TO MEET WITH THE
NEIGHBORS AND DO ANYTHING.
WE CAN'T DO THAT.
BUT THE FUTURE STUFF THAT -- THAT IS COMING IN THE PIPELINE,
IS THIS -- IS THIS -- I WAS NOT HERE FOR THIS TOTAL
REDEVELOPMENT.
IS THIS ONE OF THOSE PD-As WHERE EVERYTHING IS JUST BEING
DONE WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK TO US OR IT YOU IT HAVE TO
COME BACK TO US?
07:32:52PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
I AM GOING TO ASK STAFF TO MAYBE
RESPOND TO THAT.
07:32:55PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
CURRENTLY THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY IS A PD-A AND A PHASED
DEVELOPMENT.
ON EACH PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT, THE IF DEVELOPER SUBMITS FOR
INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN REVIEW AND WHERE THEY SUBMIT A
DETAILED SITE PLAN AND APRIL APPROVAL.
IT MUST BE KENT WITH THE OVERALL PD-A.
SO EACH TIME IT IS SENT IT HAS A DRAW DOWN FROM IT THE
ENTITLEMENTS IN IF THE PD-A.
ONE THAT COMES EN CEMENT ALLEY, REVIEW A ADMINISTRATIVELY.
WOULDN'T COME BACK TO COUNCIL BECAUSE WOULD YOU HAVE SEEN
THE OTHER PD-A.
07:33:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS MY QUESTION.
NO OTHER WAY TO HAVE THE DEVELOPER HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR
LOOKING INTO ANY OF THIS.
07:33:47PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
CORRECT.
07:33:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
07:33:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:34:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MISS COYLE.
YES, MA'AM.
07:34:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THERE IS NO WAY THAT THIS COULD BE DISCUSSED
AND TREED TO FIGURE OUT BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE
NEIGHBORS?
07:34:27PM >> AT THIS POINT, I BELIEVE WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE
VOTE.
07:34:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
07:34:31PM >>COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:34:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:34:41PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
MOVE AN ORDINANCE APPROVING SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES.
OFF PREMISE CONSUMPTION AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE AND
LIQUOR AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND
LOCATED 1910 AND 2009 NORTH OLA AVENUE, 202, 220 AND 310
WEST 7th AVENUE, 1810 AND 1812 NORTH HIGHLAND AVENUE, 1905,
1907, 1912, 20002 NORTH TAMPA STREET.
183341.0198; 183341.0162; 183341.0163; 183341.0166;
183341.0180; 183341.0182; 183341.0184; 183341.0186;
183341.0188; 183341.0190; 183341.0192; AND 183341.0200 AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 -- THANK GOD -- AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXCEPTION PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCE
OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING ORDINANCE NUMBER
2013-64 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
07:36:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
07:36:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:36:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SQUARE
FOOTAGE BEING INCREASED AT ALL.
MY CONCERN IS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVEN'T FELT LIKE IT HAS
BEEN HEARD.
AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE ONLY SPACE THEY CAN -- THEY CAN
BE HEARD.
I WOULD -- I WOULD LOVE FOR THE -- THE PETITIONER TO SAY
ABSOLUTELY AFTER THIS, WE WILL CERTAINLY GET TOGETHER.
WE WILL WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TRY TO SOLVE THESE
PROBLEMS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CAN BE DONE AT THE CRA LEVEL, BUT THOSE
ARE MY CONCERNS APPROVING THIS.
DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
07:37:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:37:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OBVIOUSLY VERY COMMUNITY-MINDED CONCERNS FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I WONDER IF WE COULD -- I DON'T WANT TO OPEN UP A CAN OF
WORMS.
FIRST AND SECOND READING.
ASK IF THE PETITIONER WILL BE WILLING TO DO IT BETWEEN FIRST
AND SECOND REASONS TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
PUTTING IT OUT THERE.
07:38:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE WOULD HAVE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
07:38:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF YOU ALL WANT TO.
SHE IS STANDING UP.
07:38:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
07:38:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BY
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
07:38:18PM >> I FORGOT ABOUT SECOND READING.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE LIST
OF CONCERNS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
07:38:28PM >> OBVIOUSLY, CATHERINE COYLE.
I EXPECT COMMIT THAT MY CLIENT WILL SPEAK TO THEM, BUT I
WILL MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE.
I CAN SAY -- JUST SO YOU KNOW, I CAN SAY THAT AFTER THE
DECEMBER MEETING, HE HAS COMMITTED TO AN AUGUST SESSION
WHERE HE REACHES OUT.
BECAUSE FOR THE OCTOBER SEASON -- WHAT HE DID COMET TO THEM
ON A SEASONAL BASIS WHEN THE NEW EVENTS COME OUT, HE PLANS
TO REACH OUT TO THEM A COUPLE OF MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
AT THAT MEETING IN DECEMBER, THE SPECIAL EVENTS COORDINATOR
FOR ARMATURE WORK AND INTRODUCED HER TO THEM AND HER
INFORMATION WENT OUT TO ALL OF THEM.
THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE SHE REACHES OUT MIDYEAR AUGUST WHEN
THEY START PLANNING THAT TO ROLL OUT THE CALENDAR THROUGH
THE SEASON SO THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS COMING IN ADVANCE OF
IT ACTUALLY BEING ANNOUNCED.
THAT I KNOW WILL HAPPEN.
07:39:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE ONE OF THE ISSUES IS DESIGNATING AN
ARMATURE WORKS POINT OF CONTACT.
07:39:31PM >> THAT WAS ALREADY DONE.
HER NAME -- HE THINKS IT IS STEPHANIE.
SHE IS IN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
HER NAME WAS LISTED IN THERE WITH THE CONTACT INFORMATION.
07:39:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM WILLING TO SUPPORT THIS IF SOME MOVEMENT
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM
DENYING IT IF ON SECOND READING THAT THAT CONVERSATION
HAVEN'T STARTED TO HAPPEN.
07:39:52PM >> UNDERSTOOD.
07:39:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:39:56PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MY COLLEAGUE TO THE LEFT OF ME POINTED
SOMETHING OUT HERE.
DOES THIS PROJECT -- THAT DEVELOPMENT -- IN THE CRA ZONE,
CORRECT.
RECEIVED CRA DOLLARS.
07:40:10PM >> I BELIEVE IT GOES TO THE CDD.
THIS IS WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT IT TOO.
THERE ARE VERY -- SEVERAL LAYERS OF AGREEMENTS, REGULATIONS
AND RULES ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
NOT TWO GUYS DOING WHATEVER THEY WANT.
PDA-A, THE ALCOHOL, THE AGREEMENT THAT FEEDS THE CDD, THE
SPECIAL ASSESSMENT THAT MAINTAINS THE UTILITIES AND
INFRASTRUCTURE AND A VERY LARGE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS
WELL THAT CONTROLS EVERYTHING.
IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.
07:40:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE REASON I ASK THAT --
07:40:45PM >> WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
07:40:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE REASON I ASK THAT.
WE TALK OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND IT IS IN A CRA.
I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL SITS ON THAT BOARD.
HOW THE BOARD IS OPERATED.
IT IS OPERATED DIFFERENTLY.
I HAVE A LIST OF CONCERNS FROM CITIZENS AND IT IS A CRA AND
SOME OF THEM HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED, THAT BOTHERS ME.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE PRICE PER SE BUT THE
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
WHAT I SEE DOWN THE LINE IF WE DON'T AS A FUTURE COUNCIL.
WE TALK OF NOISE AND ENTERTAINMENT.
THOSE ISSUE ALSO COME BACK AGAIN TO SOME FUTURE COUNCIL
BECAUSE WHAT I SEE RIGHT NOW, I CAN SEE IT ALREADY.
07:41:25PM >> I ACTUALLY ATTENDED THE OCTOBER -- I THINK IT WAS THE
OCTOBER MEETING OF THE HAVE I RADIO HE COMMITTEE AND PRESENT
IT TO THEM AND THEY HAD NO ISSUES.
IT WAS AT THE BUSH ROSS BUILDING.
07:41:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
OKAY.
07:41:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:41:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WAS LOOKING AT THE MEETING BETWEEN
YOURSELF AND THE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
THE NEIGHBORS -- DID THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD REQUIREMENTS --
I GUESSES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND LOOKING AT THE -- AT DIFFERENT THINGS HERE.
I AM SURE THAT CERTAINLY -- LIKE CROSSWALKS AND THAT WILL BE
OBTAINED AT DUE TIME AND TRAFFIC DESIRES THAT AND WILL HAVE
TO BE THERE.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT IS MUCH MORE DENSER IN THE FUTURE THAN
IT IS TODAY.
AND ALREADY -- AND I TELL YOU WHAT, RIGHT NOW THE PLACE IS A
DEGREES NATION POINT FOR A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE CITY,
INCLUDING MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT CRA DOLLARS, AND YOU LOOK AT A -- SOMETHING
THIS LARGE, I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT IS IN THE KINDNESS OF
THE HEART TO ARE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS PUT IN?
07:42:37PM >> YOU ARE ASKING FOR HIM TO CONSIDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
07:42:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
OUT OF THE KINDNESS OF THE HEART.
I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO OR NOT DO WITH WHY YOU ARE
PROPERTY.
I HAVE TO REPHRASE MYSELF SO THE STATE DOESN'T COME AFTER
ALL OF US.
07:42:50PM >> I CAN NOT SPEAK TO THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, BUT I CAN
SAY IN DISCUSSING OTHER PROJECTS WITH MY CLIENT BECAUSE HE
DEVELOPS EVERYWHERE, HE IS VERY AFFORDABLE HOUSING MINDED
AND SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT HE HAS GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH
MANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS, NOT SPECIFICALLY IN THE
HEIGHTS, THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT
HE HAS.
07:43:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
REMIND ME WHEN YOU REMIND YOURSELF WHEN
YOU HEAR ABOUT WHY YOU ARE DEVELOPER, LET YOUR KNOWN AND
REMIND ME?
07:43:17PM >> I WOULDN'T MIND.
07:43:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:43:20PM >> THANK YOU.
07:43:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:43:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MISS COYLE, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE WHEN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETS, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU
GET ON THEIR E-MAIL LIST.
BECAUSE THEY SEND LOTS OF E-MAIL BLASTS.
YOU CAN NOT MISS A MEETING.
IF YOU GO BACK THERE AND GET ON THEIR E-MAIL LIST, I PROMISE
YOU YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MISS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF A
MEETING.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THAT HOPEFULLY YOU CAN HAVE A
MEETING BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
07:43:50PM >> THANK YOU.
07:43:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:43:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SHARE THE CONCERNS OF MY COL LOTION.
THESE DEVELOPERS ARE VERY ENLIGHTENED.
SOME OF THE MOST BRILLIANT MINDS IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE GREAT
IDEAS AND TYPICALLY TRY TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY --
COMMUNITY.
I CAN SEE BY THE ATTITUDE OF THE COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES
THAT THEY ARE VERY FRUSTRATED.
AND WE DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS OF IT.
AND THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE GOTTEN ESSENTIALLY IS THAT NOTHING
IS GOING TO HAPPEN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING BECAUSE
NOTHING HAS HAPPENED SINCE THEN.
BECAUSE I AM NOT CONFIDENT THAT ANYTHING WILL HAPPEN, I WILL
RELUCTANTLY VOTE NO BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME
REASONABLE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED.
I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO VOTE NO, BUT IF -- IF -- BUT THERE
IS -- IT -- THE ATTITUDE SEEMS TO BE VERY DISMISS SIEVE OF
THE COMMUNITY WHICH IS TRUST READING.
A BIG DEAL AND A BIG PROJECT WITH MULTIPLE LAYERS.
07:44:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
I WILL -- CAN I ASK MR. SEEL DO YOU THINK A MEETING BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING WILL BE BEN FISH SHALL OR HAPPEN?
07:45:24PM >> IN WOULD BE ASSUMPTION IF IT MAY OR MAY NOT.
I CAN GO BY STAFFING IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL THREE MONTHS
AGO WHEN THAT WAS ASKED TO HAPPEN AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
AGAIN A DEBATE HOW GOOD OR BAD THE COMMUNITY OCCASION WAS.
I WOULD SAY THAT AS A GROUP OF CITIZENS, MANY OF WHOM THE
MOST ACTIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN THAT THEY
TEAMS HAVE TO BRING ALONG TO PUBLIC MEETINGS AND ARE MOST
AFFECTED BY SOME OF THE LOUD NOISE ISSUES THAT GO ON THERE,
IT IS DIFFICULT TO BE ENGAGED IN THE COMMUNITY AND ATTEND
MANY SCORES OF MEETINGS AND KEEP UP WITH COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT THE WAY THAT A FOR-PROFIT INDIVIDUAL DOES.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE MONTHLY BOARD MEETINGS.
WE HAVE MONTHLY GENERAL MEETINGS.
WE JUST SHIFTED FROM THURSDAY TO WEDNESDAY TO ACCOMMODATE
COUNCIL MEETINGS ON THURSDAY; HOWEVER, THE TIME, LOCATION,
ALL THAT HAS BEEN SET IN STONE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
NOT HARD TO FIND US.
IN TERMS OF -- OUT OF CONJECTURE.
I HAVE A VERY LOW FEELING OF CONFIDENCE THAT ANY
ACCOMMODATIONS WILL BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READ
PARTIALLY BECAUSE THERE IS A RANGE OF FEELS BETWEEN
RESIDENTS ON THIS CASE.
I PERSONALLY CAN TELL YOU I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE
SQUARE FOOTAGE CONTAINED WITHIN HERE.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE BORDER CHANGES.
NOT THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ALL GOOD OR ALL BAD, IT IS IN
THE DETAILS AND THE NUANCES HOW THIS IS OPERATIONALLY DONE.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO GET IN A DEEPER DISCUSSION AND
ASKED FOR AND IT HAVEN'T OCCURRED SINCE WE FIRST LEARNED OF
THIS.
AND IN ADVANCE OF THE AUGUST, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER HEARING.
WHATEVER THAT FIRST HEARING WAS.
WE HAVE BEEN TRYING SINCE THEN TO DEAL INTO THE DETAILS.
07:47:15PM >> IF I COULD ONLY IN REBUTTAL.
07:47:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WILL GIVE YOU TIME FOR REBUTTAL, MISS
COLE.
I WAS PLANNING TO DO THAT.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
07:47:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHY YOU HAVE SEVEN PEOPLE
UP HERE.
DIFFERENT IDEAS.
AND PEOPLE GOOD AT TALKING.
A LIGHT GOES ON.
MY CONCERN WITH THE PROJECT -- I THINK IT HAS SOME GREAT
POINTS.
BUT ALSO SOME COMMUNITY CONCERNS.
AND FOR ME THERE ARE BEING IN A CRA, AND OUR CRA SAYS 30% TO
HOUSING, IN THE FUTURE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IS BEING
UPHELD WITH THIS PROJECT.
PERIOD.
BECAUSE 30% WAS SAID TO BE DONE IN ALL CRAs REGARDLESS.
ALL CRAs.
SO GOING FORWARD -- THIS MAY GO THROUGH TONIGHT, BUT GOING
FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR HUGE PROJECT OVER THERE, MAN.
DATED 30% AND NEEDS TO BE WATCHED AND THIS BOARD AND COUNCIL
NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED, PERIOD.
PUT THE MESSAGE OUT MESS COYLE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT BUT I CAN BE BEHIND THAT PODIUM
RAISING HILL ABOUT 30% BECAUSE 30% IS SAID TO BE IN ALL
PROJECTS ESPECIALLY IN CRAs, THANK YOU.
07:48:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. CHELSEA.
07:48:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU CAN ASK STAFF.
A DEVELOPMENT 'AGREEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS THAT I
UNDERSTAND.
IS THAT WHAT CONTROLS --
07:48:46PM >> THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CONTROLS -- NO AFFORDABLE
PROVISION IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT IS ADOPTED.
07:48:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT WAS -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS DONE
BEFORE OR AFTER THE POLICY --
07:48:59PM >> I BELIEVE THE LAST ONE WAS PROBABLY AROUND 2012, 2013.
MAYBE 2018.
2014?
2014.
07:49:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY POLICY AND THE REASON -- THE QUESTION
IS WHAT CONTROLS.
THE POLICY OR THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
07:49:13PM >> I AM NOT SURE THE 30% BECAUSE THEY PREEMPTED LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS FROM MAN.
DATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
30% OF THE FUNDING -- BUT YOU CAN'T REQUIRE IT IN
REQUIREMENTS BY STATE LAW.
07:49:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST ONE OTHER -- FOR COUNCIL'S REMINDER.
THAT WITHIN YOUR STAFF REPORT, IT SAYS SECTION 129, THE
GENERAL STANDARDS AND DOES INCLUDE SOME THINGS THAT COUNCIL
CAN CONSIDER RELATIVE TO WHAT IS BEING ASKED.
AND ONE OF THEM IS THE CONTROL OF POTENTIALLY ADVERSE
EFFECTS GENERALLY AND THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR YOUR REVIEW IN
THE STAFF REPORTS.
THE CRITERIA, THAT IS.
07:49:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS COYLE, WOULD YOU LIKE REBUTTAL TIME
NOW.
07:50:00PM >> CATHERINE COYLE FOR THE RECORD.
THE ONLY THING I WILL REBUT, IN FAIRNESS TO MY CLIENT.
MR. SEEL MADE IT SOUND LIKE NO CONTACT AND NO ATTENDANCE.
WE WERE INVITED TO MEET INFORMATION 2022 WHICH WE DID
ATTEND.
I PERSONALLY HAVE EXPECTED TO SEE AN INVITE COME THROUGH
BECAUSE IT CAME THROUGH THE LAST TIME.
WE DID ATTEND IN OCTOBER.
AND PLANNED TO ATTEND THE NOVEMBER, AND UNFORTUNATELY I HAD
A FAMILY HEALTH EMERGENCY AND NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.
BUT I DID SEND -- IN THAT ENGAGEMENT PACKAGE, FULL DETAILED
OF ALL THE QUESTIONS I RECEIVED PRIOR TO OF MR. SEEL.
EACH TIME DETAILED QUESTION PRIOR TO THAT CONTINUANCE, WE
RESPONDED TO EVERYTHING RELATED TO THE PLAN IDENTIFYING WHAT
WE WERE TRYING TO DO.
THAT IS REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY AND I AM CERTAINLY GOING TO
TALK TO MY CLIENT REACHING OUT BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING IF YOU ARE SO INCLINED TO APPROVE.
07:50:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:51:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WASN'T YOUR POINT FOR THE CONTINUANCE TO
REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY?
07:51:07PM >> THERE WAS ENGAGEMENT BETWEEN -- IT IS IN THE PACKET.
THERE WERE -- THERE WAS CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MR. HARDEN,
MR. SEEL AND OTHER MEMBERS.
07:51:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
AFTER DECEMBER 15.
07:51:21PM >> CORRECT.
WE WERE WAITING FOR THE NEW ELECTION AND HE HAS BEEN IN
CONTACT WITH THE NEW PRESIDENT, MR. MATT SINK, I BELIEVE HIS
NAME IS.
07:51:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
07:51:32PM >> SECOND.
07:51:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ILLINOIS LET THIS ONE GO.
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
07:52:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHAT WAS THAT MOTION, SIR?
07:52:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HE SO ELOQUENTLY SAID.
WITH ALL THE NUMBERS IN THERE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
FOR ME, THIS IS ALL ABOUT ALCOHOL.
IN MY OPINION, IT JUST -- IT -- IN MY OPINION, IT IS LIKE
THE WILD WEST.
I UNDERSTAND IT IS INCREMENTAL.
I UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT THIS MANY SQUARE FOOT -- 200 SOME ODD THOUSAND SQUARE
FOOT.
I WAS OPPOSED AGAINST THE MIDTOWN.
I WAS OPPOSED AGAINST THE HARBOUR ISLAND AND OPPOSED AGAINST
THIS.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:52:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NO.
07:52:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
07:52:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
07:52:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
07:52:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
07:52:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
07:52:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NO.
07:52:57PM >>CLERK:
MOTION DID NOT PASS.
07:53:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
07:53:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT IS NOT OVER YET.
MISS COYLE.
MOTION TO DENY?
07:53:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
NEED A MOTION TO DENY.
07:53:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
STATE THE REASONS FOR IT, PLEASE, FOR THE
RECORD.
FRANKLY, I WILL DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO GENERAL STANDARDS
OF 29-129.
I ASK THAT YOU REFERENCE THAT IN YOUR DECISION AND AS TO IT
THE ADVERSE IMPACTS AND ADVERSE EFFECTS THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO
BE ADDRESSED AS A RESULT OF YOUR DECISIONS AND FINDINGS OF
FACT.
IF ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBER OTHER THAN THE ONE MAKING THE
MOTION HAVE ANY FINDINGS THEY WISH TO PUT INTO THE
RECORD TO ADD TO THE MOTION.
THAT WILL BE HELPFUL IF YOU WISH.
IF YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT STAFF REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU, I CAN
HAVE THAT PRINTED OFF, IF THAT IS IT NECESSARY.
07:54:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN LOOK AT IT.
07:54:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SORRY, DOES STAFF HAVE CHAPTER 127-129.
07:54:33PM >> PAGE 4, MARTY.
07:54:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PAGE 4?
I HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN.
07:54:39PM >> I MOVE TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES,
LARGE VENUE AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE CONSUMPTION AND
MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOL
CONSENT BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR
TRACT OF AND WILL LOCATED AT 1910 AND 2009 NORTH OLA AVENUE,
202, 220 AND 310 WEST 7th AVENUE, 1810 AND 1812 NORTH
HIGHLAND AVENUE, 1905, 1907, 1912 AND 2002 NORTH TAMPA
STREET.
183341.0198; 183341.0162; 183341.0163; 183341.0166;
183341.0180; 183341.0182; 1836341.0184;183341.0186;
183341.0188; 183341.0190; 83341.0192; AND 183341.0200 AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN EXCEPTION 2 -- EXCEPTION 3.
WELL, I AM NOT REPEALING, BECAUSE I AM DENYING.
BECAUSE -- DUE TO CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO POTENTIALLY ADVERSE
EFFECTS GENERALLY ON AN ADJOINING AND NEARBY PROPERTIES, THE
AREA, THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE CITY OF THE USE OR OCCUPANCY
AS PROPOSED OR ITS LOCATION -- YEAH.
PROPOSED.
THAT -- THAT IS WHAT I WILL SAY.
07:57:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY FINDINGS WITH
REGARDS YOU HEARD ON THE RECORD AND CONCERNS YOU HAVE?
07:57:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY CONCERNS ARE, AGAIN, THE ADVERSE EFFECTS
ON ADJOINING AN NEARBY PROPERTIES AND LOCATIONS, INCLUDING
-- NOISE AND SPECIAL EVENT DEFINITIONS, AND PARKING AND
TRAFFIC AND ISSUES THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALREADY HAVING.
07:58:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
MR. SHELBY.
07:58:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
HE BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS GOING TO
WANT TO BE RECOGNIZED, BUT THAT IS IN RELATION TO THE PRO
PROPOSAL YOU HAVE IN ON FROM OF YOU WITH RELATION TO THE
SALE AND CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL AS IS PROPOSED.
THE CONCERN WHAT YOU MENTIONED --
07:59:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
BECAUSE IT -- DUE TO CONSIDERATION TO THE POTENTIALLY
ADVERSE EFFECTS ON ADJOINING AND NEARBY PROPERTIES AND
AREAS.
YES, THAT IS WHY SPECIFICALLY CHOSE THAT.
AND -- YEAH, THAT'S -- SHELBY SHE WILL THANK YOU.
07:59:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:59:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
07:59:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
07:59:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
07:59:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
07:59:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
07:59:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
07:59:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
07:59:42PM >>CLERK:
MOTION TO DENY CARRIED WITH VIERA, MANISCALCO,
MIRANDA VOTING NO.

8:00:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE AB2-23-04.
8:00:05PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
COUNCIL, THIS NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3704 AND 3709 SOUTH DALE
MABRY HIGHWAY.
THE APPLICANT IS BIRDIE CLUB INDOOR GOLF FACILITY, LLC.
THE REQUEST IS A SMALL VENUE CLASSIFICATION WITH BEER AND
WINE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
THE PROPOSED USE IS AN INDOOR RECREATIONAL FACILITY, AND THE
REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES WOULD BE FOR INDOOR
ONLY, NO OUTDOOR AREA IS PROPOSED WITH THIS REQUEST, AND IT
IS A TOTAL OF 2,642 SQUARE FEET.
42 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND 30 SPACES ARE PROVIDED.
AND THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SITE, SO THE SITE IS OUTLINED
IN RED HERE.
THIS IS SOUTH DALE MABRY TO ORIENT YOU ON THE MAP, AND THIS
IS SEVILLA AND THIS IS VASCONIA AND THIS IS THE SITE THAT IS
LOCATED HERE.
WITHIN THE SITE ITSELF, I'LL SHOW YOU IN SOME SITE PHOTOS,
THE APPLICANT, WHAT I'VE INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT ON
PAGE 2, HAS STATED THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING CIRCUMSTANCE
THAT MAKES IT IMPRACTICAL TO PROVIDE A SIDEWALK ON THE SITE.
NORMALLY WHEN YOU COME IN FOR DEVELOPMENT AND YOU PROVIDE,
AND YOU PULL A PERMIT, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PUT A SIDEWALK ON

THE SITE.
SO I'LL SHOW YOU PHOTOS OF THE SOUTHERN END.
THIS IS THAT PORTION OF THE SITE WHICH IS REQUESTED BY THE
APPLICANT TO NOT PROVIDE A SIDEWALK FOR.
IF IT IS COUNCIL'S DECISION TO APPROVE, THEN IT WOULD BE
SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD ADD ON THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST
AND SECOND READING.
FIRST, LET ME DISCUSS THE SITE ITSELF AND WHAT'S SURROUNDING
IT.
THIS IS DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
YOU SEE THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING THAT'S LOCATED ALONG
DALE MABRY.
YOU HAVE YOUR RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S FOR THE WEST ON THE SITE, AND THEN YOU HAVE
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY RS-50 TO THE EAST ON THE EAST SIDE
OF DALE MABRY.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN AS SUBMITTED.
SO THIS IS DALE MABRY HIGHWAY.
THIS IS VASCONIA.
THIS IS THE SITE WHICH IS A PART OF A CENTER.
THIS SPACE IS ANOTHER UNIT AND THEN YOU WOULD ENTER THE SITE
HERE ON VASCONIA.
AGAIN, I'LL SHOW YOU THOSE PICTURES.
AND THERE'S PARKING LOCATED ON THE EAST, WHICH IS THE FRONT
OF THE SITE.

SO THAT'S THE LOCATION ON SOUTH DALE MABRY.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW.
SO THIS SHOWS THAT ANGLE LOOKING SOUTH.
THIS IS ON VASCONIA AND THIS IS THE BACK END OF THE PROPERTY
OR THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, SO YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT
THERE IS NO SIDEWALK THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS THERE.
AND THIS IS A VIEW -- IF YOU'RE LOOKING WEST ON VASCONIA.
SO THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE.
AND THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE ON VASCONIA.
THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SITE.
AT THE CORNER OF VASCONIA AND THIS IS SOUTH DALE MABRY, AND
THAT'S THE VIEW LOOKING SOUTH.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ON DALE MABRY.
THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE ON THE CORNER OF SEVILLA.
AND THEN THIS IS EAST OF THE SITE ACROSS DALE MABRY.
THERE ARE FOUR WAIVERS REQUESTED.
WITH THIS REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES AND THE DRC,
STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS IT INCONSISTENT DUE
TO THE WAIVERS ON THE SITE.
THERE ARE CORRECTIONS TO BE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING, SHOULD COUNCIL DECIDE TO APPROVE
THE REQUEST.
IN ADDITION TO THE CONDITION REGARDING THE SIDEWALK.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

8:04:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
PETITIONER?
8:04:38PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:04:44PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS COLIN RICE OF THE LAW FIRM OF OLDER LUNDY, JOINED
BY MY COLLEAGUE LIZ KELLER, 1,000 WEST CASS STREET, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33606.
WE'RE JOINED TONIGHT BY ADRIENNE AND MARIA MARTINEZ, OWNERS
OF BIRDIE CLUB, WHICH WILL BE SOUTH TAMPA'S FIRST INDOOR
GOLF SIMULATION EXPERIENCE.
WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
WE THINK IT WILL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY.
TO ORIENT YOU, AS LaCHONE HAD STATED, WE ARE DIRECT
FRONTAGE ON SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY BETWEEN VASCONIA AND
SEVILLA.
THE REQUEST TONIGHT IS A SPECIAL USE 2 PERMIT FOR SMALL
VENUE, BEER, BEER, WINE, AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES
ONLY, NO PACKAGE SALES.
THE PROPOSED USE IS PRIVATE RECREATION FACILITY INDOOR.
YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE CODE THERE'S NOT REALLY A PRE-CODIFIED
USE THAT TOTALLY FITS WITH THE USE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
IT'S PRETTY UNIQUE.
WE'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY LATER.
THE INTERIOR SPACE IS ABOUT 2500 SQUARE FEET.
I WANT YOU TO PICTURE THE HOTTEST, RAINIEST AFTERNOON IN

TAMPA.
THEN IMAGINE PLAYING 18 HOLES AT PEBBLE BEACH OR
ST. ANDREW'S OR FIRESTONE IN A 72-DEGREE, BUGS, SUN BURN,
LIGHTNING, TIME INVESTMENT.
THIS IS BIRDIE CLUB.
THE TRACK INDOOR GOLF SIMULATION TECHNOLOGY IN SOLITARY
ALLOWS PLAYERS TO CHOOSE FROM OVER 200 COURSES WORLDWIDE.
SPYGLASS HILL, CASA DE CAMPO IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, AND
HAWKTREE CLUB IN NORTH DAKOTA.
SO I WANT TO STRESS THAT THIS IS NOT A BAR.
AGAIN, NO PACKAGE SALES.
NO LIQUOR AT ALL.
NO OUTDOOR ACTIVITY.
NO OUTDOOR WET ZONE SPACE, NO AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
THIS IS A GOLF EXPERIENCE.
THE BEER AND WINE SALES ARE ACCESSORY TO THAT EXPERIENCE.
HERE IS A CONCEPTUAL INTERIOR LAYOUT.
THERE WILL BE THREE HITTING BAYS.
THE MAJORITY OF THE INTERIOR SPACE WILL BE FOR PROJECTILES,
SO YOU CAN'T FIT A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE.
MAXIMUM FOUR PLAYERS PER BAY.
PUTTING TO PRACTICE YOUR SHORT GAME.
INDOOR ENVIRONMENT TO REPLICATE A DAY OF GOLF.
NOBODY CAN JUST WALK IN HERE AND BUY A BEER.
YOU'VE GOT TO BE RENTING SPACE AT A HITTING BAY BEFORE THE

ALCOHOL SALES COME INTO PLAY.
AGAIN, THE OWNERS, THEY ARE NEIGHBORS.
THEY HAVE A FIVE-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER THEY INTEND TO TEACH GOLF
HERE.
THEY WILL BE HOSTING KIDS' CLINICS.
THE RATES WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE AFFORDABLE, ESPECIALLY
FOR KIDS IN OFF-PEAK HOURS, GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO LEARN THE
GAME.
WE HAVE ONE PARTY THAT'S RATHER EXCITED ABOUT THIS IS THE
UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA.
I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW POINTS FROM THIS LETTER OF SUPPORT
ENDORSED BY BOTH THE WOMEN'S AND MEN'S GOLF TEAMS AND THE
ATHLETIC DIRECTOR.
UT AS WE KNOW IS AN URBAN CAMPUS WHICH GIVES IT A LOT OF
TERRIFIC ADVANTAGES FOR STUDENTS, BUT IT'S A COMPETITIVE AND
LOGISTIC DISADVANTAGE WHEN RECRUITING AND COMPETING FOR A
SPORT LIKE GOLF.
THERE JUST AREN'T CLOSE-BY FACILITIES FOR WHICH THE PLAYERS
CAN TRAIN.
THIS CHANGES THAT.
IT'S WITHIN 10 MINUTES OF UT, AND IT'S A RAIN-OR-SHINE
OPTION.
IT'S A RELIABLE SPACE FOR THESE PLAYERS TO COME PRACTICE AND
IMPROVE THEIR GAME.
THEY ARE THRILLED ABOUT IT.

WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE THEIR SUPPORT.
IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS IS A REALLY OLD SITE.
THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1948, 75 YEARS OLD.
THIS IS AN AERIAL FROM 1957 SHOWING YOU THAT THE BUILDING
FOOTPRINT IS IDENTICAL TODAY.
SO WITH THAT, WE NEED SOME HELP WITH A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEF
FROM THE STRICTURES OF THE CODE.
AS LaCHONE HAD MENTIONED, ONE ITEM FOR WHICH WE'LL BE
REQUESTING YOUR SUPPORT IS A FINDING THAT THE SIDEWALK ON
VASCONIA IS IMPRACTICAL AND THE ABILITY TO PAY IN LIEU
INSTEAD OF INSTALLATION OF THE SIDEWALK.
IN SHORT, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT SIDEWALK INSTALLATIONS IN THE
SURROUNDING AREA, INCLUDE SURROUNDING THE SITE.
THERE ARE WALK PATHS THAT ABUT THE BUILDING AND THERE ARE
TECO INSTALLATIONS ON THAT PART OF VASCONIA THAT MAKE THE
INSTALLATION PRACTICAL.
HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, SHOW VISUALS IF ANY ARISE.
WITH RESPECT TO WAIVERS, WE ARE REQUESTING A WAIVER OF
PARKING FROM 42 TO 30.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE ARE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING
PHYSICALLY IN THE EXTERIOR OF THE SPACE.
WE'RE NOT TOUCHING ANY OF THE 30 SPACES.
THE REASON WE'RE UNDER FULL SITE PARKING REVIEW IS THIS IS A
VERY, VERY DE MINIMIS INCREASE IN DENSITY THAT TRIGGERS FULL
SITE REVIEW.

AGAIN, THIS IS AN OLD SPACE.
TAMPA GREW UP AROUND IT.
THAT SAID, OUR SPACE CALCULATED AT FIVE SPACES PER THOUSAND
VERSUS THE RETAIL OF FOUR SPACES PER THOUSAND, IT'S REALLY
ABOUT A TWO-SPACE INCREASE FOR OUR SITE.
I WANT TO REITERATE THAT BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED NUMBER OF
HITTING BAYS IN THE PUTTING AREA, WE REALLY WILL NOT HAVE
MORE THAN 15 PATRONS INSIDE AT ONE TIME.
THE CODE DOES ALSO ALLOW IN SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES
ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVERS FOR PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR OLDER
BUILDINGS.
THERE IS A RETAIL -- RATHER, A THERAPY LOCATION WITHIN THE
COMPLEX THAT QUALIFIES IT AS MEDICAL AND THEREFORE THIS
SPECIFIC CODE PROVISION ISN'T ALLOWABLE.
BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE SPIRIT OF THE CODE IS TO ADDRESS
UNIQUE SITUATIONS WITH OLDER SITES.
THE SECOND WAIVER IS TO ALLOW MANEUVERING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
FOR THE SPACES ON DALE MABRY.
AGAIN, THIS IS A 75-YEAR-OLD SITE.
THE SPACES HAVE BEEN PRESENT.
F.D.O.T. HAS NOT EXPRESSED ANY CONCERN ABOUT THIS.
THERE'S REALLY A NEGLIGIBLE INCREASE IN TRIP GENERATION.
THIRD IS TO REDUCE THE DISTANCE FROM RESIDENTIAL USES FROM
250 TO 78 FEET.
THIS FRONTS DALE MABRY BUT THE IMMEDIATE ZONING DISTRICT TO

THE WEST IS RESIDENTIAL.
LASTLY, THERE WAS A MARATHON GAS STATION TO THE NORTH ON
THIS BLOCK.
THAT'S A REDUCTION TO 20 FEET.
THEY HAVE AN APPROVAL FOR BEER AND WINE OFF PREMISES ONLY.
THEY ARE NOT RELATED USES.
THEIR PROXIMITY WILL NOT CREATE ADVERSE IMPACTS.
WE'VE HAD SOME REALLY PRODUCTIVE E-MAIL CORRESPONDENCE WITH
THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HELD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
YOU CAN SEE OUR BIRDIE CLUB GEAR AND SNACKS.
NOBODY ATTENDED, UNFORTUNATELY.
BUT WE GOT NICE HEADWAY VIA E-MAIL.
I'M NOT AWARE OF OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THIS
PROPOSAL.
WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL TO THEM FOR THEIR ENGAGEMENT.
THAT HELPS OUR REQUEST TO BE MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE
NEIGHBORHOOD.
TO CONCLUDE, WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THIS EXPERIENCE TO SOUTH
TAMPA.
KNOW THAT THE MARGINS FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS MODEL ARE
NOT HIGH.
MODERATE BEER AND WINE SALES REALLY ARE THE SUPPLEMENT TO
HELP THIS BUSINESS THRIVE.
THIS IS THE MARTINEZ'S FIRST SMALL BUSINESS VENTURE.

CERTAINLY I'M ROOTING FOR THEM.
WITH THAT, I WILL CONCLUDE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WE'LL SUBMIT THESE
SLIDES INTO THE RECORD.
8:11:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I DIDN'T QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:12:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DO WANT TO SEE THE VISUALS ABOUT SIDEWALKS
BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE PUBLIC REALLY WANTS TO KNOW
ABOUT.
8:12:20PM >> WE PREPARED A VISUAL HERE.
THE IMAGE TO THE RIGHT IS THE ACTUAL BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
THE SOUTHERN END OF IT HAS WALKING PATHS RIGHT UP ALONG THE
BUILDING.
THE MIDDLE PHOTOGRAPH IS THE NORTH END OF THAT BLOCK.
THERE ARE SIDEWALKS EXTENDING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON
SEVILLA.
THERE ARE SIDEWALKS DIRECTLY ON DALE MABRY.
THE IMAGE TO THE LEFT IS THE TECO INSTALLATIONS ALONG
VASCONIA THAT ARE PROPOSING A CHALLENGE TO THE SIDEWALK
INSTALLATION.
WE JUST THINK THAT THE FUNDS COULD BE REALLOCATED FOR A
SENSIBLE SIDEWALK ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.
8:12:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
SO THE ONLY SIDEWALK YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT IN IS LIKE A
SIX-FOOT PIECE OF SIDEWALK?

IS THAT HOW LARGE THE SIDEWALK SPACE?
8:13:13PM >> FROM I UNDERSTAND IT FROM THE PROPERTY LINE SOUTH, A FIVE
FOOT.
THE REQUEST IN CODE, WHEN YOU HAVE AN S-2 CHANGE OF USE IS
PUT IN A FIVE-FOOT SIDEWALK.
8:13:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
I MEAN, WHAT IS THE -- THAT WOULD BE THE WIDTH, BUT WHAT IS
THE LENGTH?
8:13:28PM >> THE LENGTH.
OH, BOY.
8:13:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MEAN, WOULD IT BE FROM THAT 25-MILE AN HOUR
SIGN TO THE DRIVEWAY?
8:13:38PM >> NO, IT WOULD GO ALL THE WAY TO DALE MABRY.
8:13:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, YOU CAN'T GO TO DALE
MABRY BECAUSE THERE'S PARKING.
8:13:51PM >> RIGHT.
THOSE ARE NOT COUNTED SPACES, NO.
8:13:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT IT'S ALREADY PAVED.
8:13:56PM >> IT'S PAVED, THAT'S RIGHT.
THEY WOULD REQUIRE PULLING UP THAT PAVEMENT, PUTTING IN A
COMPACTION.
I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT ENGINEERING TERM BUT A CERTAIN
NEW IMPROVED SPACE FOR THE SIDEWALK.
IT WOULD BE A CONCRETE INSTALLATION.
8:14:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?

ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM
NUMBER 8, FILE AB2-23-04?
8:14:31PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
8:14:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
8:14:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
8:14:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I HAVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT
S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE CONSUMPTION ON
PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT
OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT
3407 AND 3409 SOUTH DALE MABRY, HIGHWAY, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
8:15:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN --
MS. JOHNSON VELEZ.
8:15:16PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
SIR, IF YOUR FINDING THAT THE SIDEWALK IS NOT PRACTICAL TO

INSTALL AT THIS LOCATION DUE TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES DESCRIBED
BY THE APPLICANT, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU ALSO INCLUDE THAT
WITH YOUR MOTION.
8:15:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO INCLUDED IN MY MOTION IS EXACTLY AS
WHAT WAS DESCRIBED REGARDING THE SIDEWALK, IF THAT'S OKAY
WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL AND THE SECONDER OF THE MOTION.
8:15:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, WHAT YOU'RE
FINDING, IT IS NOT PRACTICABLE, I GUESS IS THE WORD, AND IT
WOULD BE REPLACED WITH AN IN LIEU OF FEE.
8:15:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT IS CORRECT.
8:15:56PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
AND A NOTE ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN
BETWEEN TONIGHT AND SECOND READING.
8:16:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
REGARDING THAT SITUATION, BETWEEN NOW
AND SECOND READING, WE ADD THIS AS AN ADDITION, A NOTE ON
THE SITE PLAN SO IT'S THERE WRITTEN IN STONE.
THAT'S THE MOTION.
8:16:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGREEABLE, COUNCILMAN GUDES?
8:16:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
8:16:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL VOTE.
8:16:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
8:16:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.

8:16:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
8:16:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
8:16:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
8:16:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
8:16:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
8:16:39PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 20th,
2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
8:16:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, FILE AB2-23-03.
8:16:59PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THIS NEXT ITEM IS A REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5017 EAST WASHINGTON
STREET.
THE APPLICANT IS EGYPT SHRINE HOLDING CORPORATION
INCORPORATED.
AND THE REQUEST IS FOR A LARGE VENUE CLASSIFICATION BEER AND
WINE AND LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
THIS SITE CURRENTLY HAS APPROVAL FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
SALES.
THE CLASSIFICATION CURRENTLY IS A SMALL VENUE WITH BEER,
WINE, LIQUOR, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY SALES.
THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU WOULD ADD ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SPACE
TO WHAT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED.
SO CURRENTLY THEY ARE APPROVED FOR 26,957 SQUARE FEET.

AND THIS REQUEST BEFORE YOU WOULD ALLOW A TOTAL OF 33,004
SQUARE FEET OF AB SALES WITH 7,753 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR
SPACE.
AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED.
SO THIS IS WASHINGTON STREET.
8:18:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT'S NOT UP ON OUR SCREENS.
8:18:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ACTIVATE THE SCREENS, PLEASE.
OUR SCREENS, SO WE CAN SEE WHAT'S BEING PROJECTED.
IT'S COMPLETELY BLANK OVER HERE.
8:18:32PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE MY SCREEN?
8:18:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THEY HAD A POWER FAILURE, SO OUR
MONITORS ARE OFF.
IS IT ALL RIGHT IF WE TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS?
IT'S ON, BUT IT'S JUST SHOWING MY FACE.
YEAH, WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A BIT.
LET'S DO A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS.
THANK YOU.
UNTIL THEY FIX THAT.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[RECESS]
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
8:32:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CITY COUNCIL IS BACK IN SESSION.
ROLL CALL.
8:32:34PM >>THE CLERK:
CARLSON?
VIERA?

8:32:37PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
8:32:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
8:32:40PM >> HURTAK?
GUDES?
MIRANDA?
8:32:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
8:32:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HERE.
8:32:46PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A EQUAL QUORUM.
8:32:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MS. DOCK, I BELIEVE YOU WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR --
8:32:54PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF AB 2-23-03, THE REQUEST IS FOR
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE VENUE, BEER, WINE, LIQUOR.
CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY.
THIS IS THE SITE PLAN.
WASHINGTON STREET IS LOCATED HERE.
THIS IS THE ENTRY TO THE SITE.
THIS IS THE SITE, THE BUILDING WHICH IS OUTLINED.
THIS IS THE OUTDOOR AB SALES AREA, WHICH IS IN THE DARK
GRAY, AND THEN THE INDOOR AREA IS LOCATED HERE.
THIS IS THE AREA OF EXPANSION.
AND THIS IS THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST TODAY, TO ADD THAT
ADDITIONAL OUTDOOR SPACE.
AND I HAVE AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.

SO THIS MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO YOU.
THIS WAS APPROVED FOR ALCOHOL IN 2021.
SO THIS SITE WAS BEFORE COUNCIL.
BUT THIS IS THE SITE THAT IS IDENTIFIED HERE IN RED.
IT'S NOT THAT FAR OUT.
I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
THIS IS WASHINGTON STREET.
THIS IS 50th STREET.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU HAVE THE COMMERCIAL ZONING THAT
EXISTS THERE.
A LOT OF THIS LAND IS VACANT.
THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF REZONINGS AT THE END OF
WASHINGTON STREET NEAR THE END HERE AND ONE COMING BEFORE
YOU IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
BUT THAT'S THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AND I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE.
SO WE'LL START AT 50th AND WORK OUR WAY OVER.
SO THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE ON 50th AT THE CORNER OF THE
GAS STATION, AND THIS IS MOVING TOWARDS THE SITE.
THAT IS THE VACANT LOT.
THIS IS THE VIEW LOOKING EAST ON WASHINGTON.
THE LOT IS TO THE RIGHT IN THIS PICTURE.
THIS IS THE SITE ON WASHINGTON, THE ENTRY OF THE SITE, WITH
ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE.
THIS IS IF YOU'RE LOOKING WEST ON WASHINGTON, AND THEN THIS

IS NORTH OF THE SITE, THE VACANT PARCEL.
DRC STAFF REVIEWED THE REQUEST.
FINDS THE REQUEST INCONSISTENT.
THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED TO BE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
AND, ALSO, THERE IS ONE WAIVER THAT IS REQUESTED, AND THAT
IS TO REDUCE THE PARKING SPACES FROM 189 SPACES TO 158
SPACES.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
8:35:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOCK?
THANK YOU.
8:35:34PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:35:39PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
JAIME MAIER, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, 101 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, SUITE 3700.
I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
I HAVE A PowerPoint.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE SYSTEMS ARE WORKING OR NOT, SO I DO HAVE
A PAPER VERSION.
IT'S KIND OF DARK, THOUGH, WHEN IT IS SHOWN.
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO LOAD THIS OR SHOULD I USE THE
PAPER?
I'LL USE THE PAPER.
IT'S THREE SLIDES.

ONE IS A HEADER SLIDE.
8:36:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I DO NEED TO ASK THIS QUESTION.
YOU HAVE BEEN SWORN IN?
8:36:11PM >> YES, I HAVE.
IN THE FIRST ROUND.
WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY BEFORE YOU IS UPDATED AB APPROVAL AS
MS. DOCK EXPLAINED.
THIS IS THE EGYPT SHRINERS HEADQUARTERS, FLAGSHIP BUILDING.
IT'S RELATIVELY NEW.
IT IS THEIR NEWER SITE.
THEY HAD TO LEAVE THEIR OLD SITE IN 2016.
IT WAS PERMITTED AND CONSTRUCTED DURING PEAK COVID.
THEY RECEIVED THE AB APPROVAL FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE AND THE
EXISTING SMALLER PATIO BACK IN 2021, AND SO THEY NOW HAVE A
BUILDING PERMIT IN HAND TO EXPAND THE PATIO, AS YOU SAW,
THIS AERIAL IS, OF COURSE, WITHOUT THE PATIO THAT WILL BE
CONSTRUCTED.
BUT THEY HAVE THAT BUILDING PERMIT IN HAND AND THIS UPDATED
AB REQUEST IS TO REFLECT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THAT PATIO.
SO IN THE STAFF REPORT, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION FINDS IT
CONSISTENT FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, BUT TRANSPORTATION
STAFF, OF COURSE, HAS AN INCONSISTENCY FINDING AS THEY DO
WHENEVER WE ASK FOR A PARKING WAIVER.
THE WAIVER IS A 16.4% REDUCTION, WHICH IF I GO BACK TO THE
PARKING LOT THAT THEY HAVE, IT'S A SINGLE USE SITE.

IT IS A MASSIVE GATED PRIVATE PARKING LOT.
THE SITE IS RELATIVELY ISOLATED.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY DISTANCE SEPARATION WAIVERS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE TO BEFORE EITHER FOR OTHER USES.
THE OCCUPANCY LOAD THAT IS GENERATED BY THE PATIO IS BASED
ON THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO OF EVERYBODY SHOULDER TO SHOULDER
ON THE PATIO AND THE ENTIRE INTERIOR IS FULL AS WELL.
SO GIVEN THAT AND GIVEN THE AMPLE PARKING THAT THEY DO HAVE,
WE FIND THAT WAIVER TO BE A PRETTY SMALL JUSTIFIABLE
REQUEST, AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF
THIS UPDATED AB PERMIT, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE UNLESS THERE
ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
8:38:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
SEEING NONE IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9?
FILE AB 2-23-03.
8:38:18PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
8:38:19PM >> SECOND.
8:38:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.

COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
8:38:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST READ ALL THE NUMBERS, SO --
8:38:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HEY, NO PROBLEM.
FILE NUMBER AB2---
8:38:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ
THIS.
8:38:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
FILE AB 2-23-03, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A
SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, LARGE
VENUE CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE
SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT, BEER,
WINE, AND LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND
LOCATED AT 5017 EAST WASHINGTON STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING THAT ALL
ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED;
REPEALING ORDINANCE 2021-24, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
8:39:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
8:39:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION THAT'S BEEN MADE BY
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ROLL CALL.
8:39:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
8:39:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
8:39:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.

8:39:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
8:39:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
8:39:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
8:39:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
8:39:40PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 20th,
2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
8:39:50PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:39:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, FILE REZ-22-132,
MS. FEELEY.
8:40:00PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME OTHERS IN THE CHAMBERS THAT HAVE NOT.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE START 10 AND 11.
8:40:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE RISE, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO THAT
YOU MAY BE SWORN IN.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
8:40:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
8:40:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
MANAGEMENT FOR THE CITY.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO TAKE THE NEXT STEPS IN THE ROME YARD
DEVELOPMENT AND FURTHER THE PARTIES' OBLIGATIONS AS
SPECIFIED IN THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL ON

APRIL 21st OF 2022, AND IT REQUIRES BOTH A REZONING AND A
MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE AND RIVERWALK AGREEMENT.
THE REZONING IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AS ITEM 10, AND THAT
INFRASTRUCTURE AGREEMENT IS ITEM 11.
THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT IS A CONTRACT THAT IMPOSES
MUTUAL RESPONSIBILITY AND OBLIGATION ON BOTH THE CITY AND ON
RUDG WHO IS HERE TONIGHT.
WE ARE HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THE ITEMS AND WILL BE
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MS. DOCK, THE
ZONING SUPERVISOR FOR THE PRESENTATION OF ITEM 10.
8:41:26PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 10 IS REZ-22-132.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 2609 NORTH ROME AVENUE
AND 2301 NORTH OREGON AVENUE.
THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY JAKE CREMER.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM NMU 35
NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE TO PD TO ALLOW FOR ALL NMU 35 USES,
RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS, BUSINESS AND VOCATIONAL
SCHOOL USES ON-SITE.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DANNY WITH THE PLANNING
COMMISSION AND I'LL COME BACK AND GIVE MY REPORT.
THANK YOU.
8:42:15PM >>DANNY COLLINS:
GOOD EVENING.

DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
THIS REZONING IS WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
AND MORE SPECIFICALLY IT'S IN THE WEST RIVER NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE MARTIN LUTHER KING RECREATION COMPLEX IS THE CLOSEST
PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH OF
THE SITE.
THERE'S TRANSIT AVAILABLE IN THE AREA.
HART ROUTE 7 SERVES THE SUBJECT SITE WITH THE STOP LOCATED
AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST MAIN STREET AND NORTH BOULEVARD.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON A LEVEL A EVACUATION ZONE AND
PORTIONS ARE WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
HERE IS AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND SURROUNDING
PROPERTIES.
THE SUBJECT SITES ARE OUTLINED IN PURPLE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS GENERALLY EAST OF ROME SOUTH OF COLUMBUS
AND NORTH OF SPRUCE STREET.
THIS IS STEWART MIDDLE SCHOOL RIGHT HERE.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN PROXIMITY
OF THE SUBJECT SITE, PRIMARILY TO THE SOUTH.
TO THE WEST OF ROME ARE PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
HOUSES AND RICK'S ON THE RIVER FOR REFERENCE IS HERE.
HERE IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE SUBJECT SITES, ALL THREE ARE RECOGNIZED UNDER THE
NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.

THAT DESIGNATION ENCOURAGES A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
AND ALLOWS DEVELOPMENT UP TO 1.5 F.A.R. FOR UP TO 35
DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH IS THE DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING
RECREATION COMPLEX, WHICH IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE RECREATION
OPEN SPACE DESIGNATION.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION IS PREDOMINANTLY
FOUND EAST OF ROME AVENUE.
THIS IS STEWART MIDDLE, WHICH IS RECOGNIZED UNDER THE
PUBLIC/SEMI-PUBLIC DESIGNATION.
DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS LAND RECOGNIZED
UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL 35 DESIGNATION, THOUGH PREDOMINANTLY
THOSE ARE MOSTLY SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
STATED SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WEST OF THE HILLSBOROUGH
RIVER, WHICH HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS AN AREA APPROPRIATE FOR
MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THOSE ARE UNDER LAND USE POLICIES 1.1.1, 3.4.2 AND
3.5.2.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEEKS TO PROVIDE RESIDENTIAL
DEVELOPMENT NEAR EMPLOYMENT AND PUBLIC TRANSIT OPTIONS
CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPACT CITY FORM STRATEGY.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS PROXIMITY TO THE CENTRAL BUSINESS
DISTRICT WITH ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
THE PROPOSED MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WILL PROVIDE HOUSING AND
RETAIL OPTIONS TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S GROWING

POPULATION ON A VACANT SITE CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY
DIRECTION IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE CITY OF TAMPA DEVELOPED A NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE FUTURE
LAND USE CATEGORY TO IMPLEMENT THE VISIONS OUTLINED IN THE
WEST RIVERFRONT REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
THE CATEGORIES ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIFAMILY
RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.
HOWEVER, THE SITE PLAN INCLUDES A REFERENCE TO SCHOOL TRADE.
PER SECTION 27-156 UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, THIS IS
CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USE.
NMU 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION DOES NOT CONTEMPLATE CI
USES.
AFTER THE ISSUE WAS RAISED TO THE CITY AND THE AUTHORIZED
AGENT FOR THE REZONING, AUTHORIZED AGENT AGREED VIA E-MAIL
ON FEBRUARY 23rd, 2023, TO REMOVE SCHOOL TRADE FROM THE
PROPOSED SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
THE CONSISTENCY FINDING FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS
CONTINGENT ON THIS CHANGE OCCURRING BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READINGS AS CI USES ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING
FUTURE LAND USE AS SUBMITTED.
THOUGH THE SITE PLAN LACKS DETAIL, THE APPLICANT HAS
PROVIDED A DESIGN BOOK THAT WILL GUIDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF
THE SIDE.
THE DESIGN BOOK PROPOSES TOWNHOMES ORIENTED ALONG ROME
AVENUE AND HIGHER INTENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES

INTERNAL TO THE SITE.
THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WILL
PROVIDE SENSITIVITY TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
RESIDENTIAL USES ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF ROME AVENUE.
THE ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CURRENTLY ONLY ALLOWS A
MAXIMUM OF 1.5 F.A.R. FOR DEVELOPMENT IN NMU 35 DESIGNATION
TO ALLOW GREATER FLEXIBILITY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN
COORDINATION WITH THE CITY HAS SUBMITTED A TEXT AMENDMENT TO
ALLOW AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING BONUS IN THE WEST RIVER AREA.
SINCE THIS REZONING WILL BE HEARD BY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
BEFORE THE PROPOSED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TEXT AMENDMENT IS
ADOPTED, THE APPLICANT HAS INCLUDED LANGUAGE UNDER DESIGN
GUIDELINES A ENTITLEMENTS ON PAGE 3, WHICH WILL ALLOW
FLEXIBILITY IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE AS THE PROPOSED
AMENDMENT WORKS THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THE PD MAY EVENTUALLY EXCEED THE 1.5 F.A.R. IN THE TEXT
AMENDMENT, IF THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS APPROVED.
OVERALL, THE PROPOSED PD WILL IMPLEMENT THE OVERALL VISION
OUTLINED IN THE WEST RIVER REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
REZONING WILL PROVIDE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT PROVIDES
AN INDOOR CONNECTED GRID OF STREETS, SUPPORTING WALKING AND
TRANSIT.
WHILE A PORTION OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE
COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, POLICY 1.1.4 STATES THAT IF ANY
PORTION OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS -- BUILDING

FOOTPRINT IS IN COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA, THE ENTIRE PARCEL
SHALL BE CONSIDERED IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
PROPOSED PD DOES NOT PROVIDE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS AND PC
STAFF UNDERSTANDS MORE DETAIL WOULD BE PROVIDED DURING THE
INCREMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS.
PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REQUESTS THAT A NOTE BE ADDED TO
THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING STATING THAT
ANY SHELTER SPACE MITIGATION CONSISTENT WITH CM POLICY 1.2.2
WILL BE EVALUATED AT THE TIME OF INCREMENTAL REVIEW.
TO REITERATE, THE FOLLOWING CHANGES THAT ARE REQUIRED
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READINGS FOR CONSISTENCY WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NUMBER ONE, REMOVE THE SCHOOL TRADE FROM
THE LIST OF ALLOWABLE USES, AND, NUMBER TWO, PROVIDE A NOTE
STATING ANY SHELTER SPACE MITIGATION CONSISTENT WITH CM
POLICY 1.2.2 WILL BE EVALUATED DURING THE INCREMENTAL REVIEW
PROCESS.
BASED ON THESE CONSIDERATIONS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES, AND
POLICIES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
8:48:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU.
8:48:49PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

AND I'LL PRESENT THE REZONING PORTION OF THE REQUEST.
THE PD REQUEST BEFORE YOU CONTAINS TWO PARCELS.
THOSE TWO PARCELS TOTAL 810,033 SQUARE FEET.
SO WHAT IS CURRENTLY THE SITE, WHICH IS VACANT NOW, WHAT HAS
HISTORICALLY BEEN ON THE SITE OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS IS A
CITY, THE WASTEWATER, AND THE WATER DEPARTMENT, THE
MAINTENANCE FACILITY WAS LOCATED ON THIS SITE.
SO CURRENTLY IT IS VACANT, BUT THAT RESIDED ON THAT SITE FOR
YEARS.
SO THE PD SITE PLAN SUBMITTED, IT IDENTIFIES THE PROJECT
BOUNDARY, WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
IT'S EASIER TO SHOW YOU THIS AERIAL.
THE PARCEL ONE IS OUTLINED AND PARCEL TWO IDENTIFIED, THEY
ARE OUTLINED IN RED ON THIS SITE PLAN.
SO IT WILL ALLOW FOR A SET OF ENTITLEMENTS IN THIS MIXED USE
DEVELOPMENT TO BE DEVELOPED IN PHASES.
AND IT WILL BE SUBMITTED AS INCREMENTAL SITE PLAN REVIEW AT
THE TIME OF INCREMENTAL REVIEW, A DETAILED SITE PLAN WOULD
BE SUBMITTED FOR APPROVAL PRIOR TO PERMITTING.
SO IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS REZONING APPLICATION, THERE IS A
CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN AND ARCHITECTURAL AND PLANNING DESIGN
GUIDELINE BOOK.
ALSO, A PHASING PLAN AND PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS
ALL IN ALIGNMENT WITH THIS REQUEST AND THAT ALL DICTATES THE
DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE.

SO ON PAGE 2 OF THE STAFF REPORT, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT
JUST A CORRECTION.
I HAVE LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT THE USES ALONG WITH --
LISTED AS MAXIMUM INTENSITY AND DENSITY, BUT IT'S REALLY THE
PROPOSED INTENSITY AND DENSITY.
AND THIS IS WHAT'S PROPOSED IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE LAND
DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
THIS IS A MINIMUM OF WHAT WOULD BE PROVIDED, WHICH IS
RESIDENTIAL OF 954 UNITS.
29,844 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL, 3,761 SQUARE
FEET OF WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER.
AND 19,744 SQUARE FEET OF CULTURAL CENTER AND ART MUSEUM
USES ON-SITE.
SO THE RESIDENTIAL IS BROKEN OUT INTO TOWNHOMES-STYLE AND
MULTIFAMILY USES.
OF THE 954 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, 185 UNITS ARE RESERVED FOR
INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EARNING NO MORE THAN 50% OF THE
AMI.
AND 94 UNITS ARE RESERVED FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE EARNING
NO MORE THAN 80% AMI.
368 UNITS ARE RESERVED FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EARNING
NO MORE THAN 140 PERCENT AMI, AND THESE ARE ALL FOR 50-YEAR
PERIOD.
267 UNITS ARE UNRESTRICTED MARKET RATE UNITS.
AND IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE TOWNHOMES PROVIDED, 40 UNITS ARE

RESERVED FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EARNING NO MORE THAN
199% AMI FOR 15 YEARS.
DANNY HAS ORIENTED YOU WITH THE SITE, BUT HERE IS THE ZONING
MAP SHOWING THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED.
THAT'S PARCEL ONE.
THIS IS PARCEL TWO.
THIS IS ROME AVENUE, AND MAIN STREET IS LOCATED HERE TO THE
SOUTH, JUST TO ORIENT YOU ON THE SITE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU HAVE ALONG THE WEST OF ROME STREET,
YOU HAVE RS-50 AND RM-16 ZONING.
YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY EXISTING IN A PD THAT'S
COLUMBUS COURT APARTMENTS AND I HAVE PICTURES TO SHOW YOU
SHORTLY.
YOU HAVE YOUR RM 24 ZONING THAT'S TO THE EAST, AND YOUR NMU
35 ZONING WHICH IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH.
INCLUDED WITHIN THE DESIGN BOOK IS THE LAYOUT OF THE SITES
OF BOTH PARCELS.
YOU CAN SEE THE ORANGE IS THE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS WHAT
WOULD PROVIDE THE HIGHEST OF 10 TO 12 STORIES.
YOUR MULTIFAMILY, THE 11 STORIES IS THE LIGHTER COLOR, AND
THEN YOU HAVE YOUR VILLAS, WHICH ARE UP TO THREE STORIES.
AND THESE ARE THE UNITS THAT WOULD ACTUALLY FACE THE PUBLIC
RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHICH IS ROME AVENUE.
THEN YOU HAVE IT TO THE NORTH.

SO THE FRONT DOOR ENTRANCE WOULD FACE ON THESE SIDE STREETS.
YOU CAN SEE SURFACE PARKING WOULD BE -- SERVICE PARKING
WOULD BE LOCATED IN THE REAR OR INTERNAL TO THE SITE WITH
THE TWO PARKING STRUCTURES LOCATED CENTRAL AND TO THE SOUTH
OF THE SITE.
I HAVE PICTURES OF THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA TO
SHOW.
THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE.
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST.
THIS IS ON PALMETTO.
THIS IS -- MOVING FURTHER NORTH, THIS IS THE SITE, YOU CAN
SEE THE SITE IS MOSTLY VACANT.
THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE.
THAT'S AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF OREGON AND ROME.
AND THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE, COLUMBUS COURT APARTMENTS.
THIS IS AT THE NORTH END OF THE SITE AND THIS IS OREGON,
THAT'S LOOKING SOUTH.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE, IF YOU'RE ON THE EAST
SIDE AND YOU'RE LOOKING TO THE WEST, PARCEL ONE.
THAT'S ON OREGON, RESIDENTIAL, AND WE WORK OUR WAY DOWN.
THAT'S ON OREGON.
ANOTHER VIEW EAST OF THE SITE, AND THIS IS FURTHER DOWN ON
OREGON LOOKING SOUTH, FURTHER SOUTH.
THAT'S THE MLK COMPLEX THAT'S TO THE SOUTH.

THE DRC STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS THE REQUEST
INCONSISTENT.
THIS IS DUE TO THE TRANSPORTATION FINDING OF INCONSISTENCIES
WITH THE REQUESTED WAIVERS.
IF COUNCIL SHOULD APPROVE THIS REQUEST, MODIFICATIONS TO THE
SITE PLAN ARE REQUIRED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, AND
THERE IS A SITE PLAN REVISION SHEET WHICH HAS BEEN INCLUDED
WITH THE STAFF REPORT, IF YOU CAN INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR
MOTION.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
8:55:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOCK?
THANK YOU.
8:55:35PM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
8:55:49PM >> CAN I GET I.T. TO HELP US WITH THE PRESENTATION?
8:55:56PM >> IT'S UP ON OUR SCREEN.
8:56:03PM >> JAKE CREMER, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET.
I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO ALBERT, JUNIOR.
8:56:18PM >> GOOD EVENING, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
ALBERT MILO, JUNIOR, PRESIDENT OF RELATED URBAN, 1800 ROME
AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
GLAD TO BE HERE.
AS MS. FEELEY SAID, THIS IS THE NEXT STEP IN THE PROCESS OF
THIS PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT STARTED A COUPLE OF
YEARS AGO AND THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED ALMOST A YEAR AGO.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN COLLABORATION WITH YOUR STAFF AND
GETTING ALL OF THE AGREEMENTS AND ALL THE ZONING MATTERS IN
PLACE.
AGAIN, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO BRING THIS TYPE OF
DEVELOPMENT TO A PROPERTY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY AN
UNDERUTILIZED PUBLIC WORKS YARD AND BE ABLE TO NOW BRING A
TRUE MIXED INCOME COMMUNITY WITH A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITY
ASPECTS AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS INCLUDED IN THERE.
AND WE HAVE SEVERAL MEMBERS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM HERE AND
COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT WILL BE TALKING.
I'M GOING TO LET NICOLE FROM STEARNS WEAVER, OUR ATTORNEY,
TALK ABOUT THE ZONING ASPECT.
SURIA, OUR ARCHITECT, WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE SITE PLAN
ASPECTS.
PETER VAN WARNER, OUR SENIOR DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, WILL
ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS THAT WE'VE
HAD.
I'LL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY OF THE COUNCIL'S QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
8:57:41PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
IF I COULD GET I.T. TO PLEASE PULL BACK UP THE PowerPoint
PRESENTATION?
THANK YOU.
AS ALBERT MENTIONED, WE ASSEMBLED AN EXCELLENT EXPERIENCED
APPLICANT TEAM HERE TODAY.

MY NAME IS NICOLE NEUGEBAUER.
MY ADDRESS IS 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, FOR THE RECORD.
I'M A LAND USE ATTORNEY AT STEARNS WEAVER.
WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A VERY -- ASSEMBLED A VERY EXPERIENCED
APPLICANT TEAM HERE THAT IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND
WHERE WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING FOR YOU TODAY.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE NOT BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT
SINCE THE BEGINNING, THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED NORTH OF I-75,
WEST OF THE RIVER IN WEST TAMPA.
IT'S CALLED THE ROME YARD PROJECT, AND IT HAS GONE THROUGH
MULTIPLE ROUNDS BEFORE YOU THROUGH THE -- INITIALLY THROUGH
THE RFP PROCESS, RELATED URBAN WAS SELECTED AS PART OF THE
PROCESS.
WE CAME BEFORE YOU FOR LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT AND
BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
AS PART OF THE DOCUMENTS, WE'RE REQUIRED TO COME BACK BEFORE
WITH YOU A REZONING AND INFRASTRUCTURE AGREEMENT FOR THE
INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE RIVERWALK PHASING AND TIMING PLAN AND
URGENCY AND DESIGN GUIDELINES.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR YOU TODAY.
AS STAFF MENTIONED, THE PROJECT IS IN THE NMU 35 FUTURE LAND
USE CATEGORY AND NMU 35 ZONING DISTRICT.
ALSO, STAFF MENTIONED, UNLIKE A LOT OF THE PDs THAT COME
BEFORE YOU, THIS ONE IS UNIQUE BECAUSE WE WILL BE USING THE
INCREMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS, WHAT YOU SEE IN OTHER PROJECTS

LIKE WEST RIVER AND ENCORE.
THAT MEANS WE'LL PRESENT A CONCEPT PLAN THAT CONSTRAINS
CERTAIN USES TO PORTIONS OF THE SITE AND INCREMENTAL REVIEW
WITH EVERY PHASE WITH YOUR STAFF AND THEY WILL REVIEW THE
PROJECT AGAINST ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS, THE RFP, LAND
DISPOSITION AGREEMENT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH
WHAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU AT EVERY STAGE.
AS PART OF THAT, WE'RE REQUESTING ALL OF THE NMU USES AS
WELL AS RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS, BUSINESS SCHOOL AND
VOCATIONAL SCHOOL.
ATTACHED IS THE CONCEPT PLAN FROM THE ARCHITECTURAL AND
DESIGN GUIDELINES.
TODAY WE'RE PRESENTING A MINIMUM OF 954 MULTIFAMILY
APARTMENT UNITS.
WE'LL ALSO HAVE 40 TOWNHOMES THAT ARE INCOME RESTRICTED AND
WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR SALE, SO THIS IS PROVIDING A HOME
OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY TO INDIVIDUALS OUT IN WEST TAMPA.
WE'LL ALSO BE PROVIDING RETAIL, A CULTURAL CENTER, WORKFORCE
TRAINING CENTER, AND LIVE-WORK UNITS.
A LOT OF THE DESIGN AS YOU'VE SEEN ON SOME OF THESE GRAPHICS
TODAY IS DRIVEN DUE TO EXISTING CITY INFRASTRUCTURE ON THE
SITE THAT IS REALLY CONSTRAINING WHERE WE CAN PLACE ALL OF
THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE LAND
DISPOSITION AGREEMENT, TO ACCOMMODATE ALL OF THE RANGE OF
USES THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, IN THE DASHED LINES GOING ACROSS THE
SITE, THOSE ARE EXISTING CITY PIPES OR EASEMENTS THAT ARE
RESTRICTING OUR ABILITY TO DEVELOP ON THAT PIECE OF THE
PROPERTY.
SO DUE TO THESE CONSTRAINTS, WE REALLY HAD TO INCREASE THE
HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS IN ORDER TO FIT ALL OF THESE UNITS
ONTO THE PROJECT AND ALSO ACCOMMODATE THE CULTURAL CENTER,
THE WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER AND VARIOUS OTHER RETAIL AND
COMMERCIAL USES.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITE, WE DESIGNED IT TO BE THOUGHTFUL
TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S TO THE WEST OF THE SITE BY PROVIDING
THE TOWNHOMES AS A TRANSITION FROM THE SINGLE-FAMILY AND LOW
DENSITY COMMERCIAL THAT'S TO THE LEFT OF ROME AVENUE AND
THEN THE TOWNHOMES AND THEN TRANSITION TO THE LARGER
MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS.
AS I MENTIONED IN ORANGE ON THIS SLIDE ARE ALL OF THE AREAS
ON THE TWO PARCELS THAT WE CANNOT BUILD DUE TO THE EXISTING
CITY INFRASTRUCTURE.
ALSO, BOTH OF THESE PARCELS ARE ENTIRELY WITHIN A BROWNFIELD
AREA WHICH DOES PRESENT ADDITIONAL REDEVELOPMENT ISSUES AS
WE'RE GOING IN TO DESIGN THE SITE.
YOU'LL SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR A
NUMBER OF WAIVERS.
MOST OF THESE WAIVERS ROUTINELY COME BEFORE YOU WITH LARGE
MIXED USE PROJECTS LIKE THIS.

TWO OF THEM I WOULD SAY ARE UNIQUE TO THIS SITE.
ONE DUE TO ACTIVATING THE ROOF DECKS AND THE OTHER RELATED
TO HOW MANY TOWNHOMES ARE CONTINUOUS.
AND AGAIN, THESE WAIVERS ARE DUE TO THE SITE CONSTRAINTS
FROM THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS
THAT WE HAVE FROM THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT, THE
COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT AND RFP.
FROM A COMPATIBILITY PERSPECTIVE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE OTHER
PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT PROVIDE A LARGE
MULTIFAMILY BUILDING NEXT TO SMALLER DENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY
AND COMMERCIAL PROJECTS.
THIS IS COMMON IN A VIEW CORRIDOR LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S
ALONG THE RIVER, SO IT IS COMPATIBLE WITH OTHER AREAS IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
HERE IS A VIEW OF LOOKING DOWN ROME AVENUE WITH THE
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE SIDE, OUR TOWNHOMES, AND
THEN YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACK A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING.
AGAIN, THIS WAS THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED TO PROVIDE A NICE
TRANSITION FROM THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ON THE WEST
SIDE OF ROME AVENUE INTO THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS THAT ARE
UP AGAINST THE RIVER.
AND WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE SURIA YAFFAR, WHO IS
THE PRINCIPAL OF ZYSCOVICH ARCHITECTS, TO WALK THROUGH THE
PROJECT AMENITIES AND PROJECT DESIGN.
9:02:29PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.

CAN YOU HEAR ME WELL?
SURIA YAFFAR, PRINCIPAL WITH ZYSCOVICH ARCHITECTS, WITH
OFFICES IN 3505 EAST FRONTAGE ROAD, CITY OF TAMPA.
WELL, THE EASEMENTS HAVE PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY, WHEN YOU
LOOK AT THE GREENSPACE ON THE SCREEN IS OPEN SPACE, THAT IT
IS GOING TO BE UTILIZED FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHAT THE INTENT IS TO BRING A VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD IN
THIS AREA, AND THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE BY BRINGING IN PROJECT
AMENITIES AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS THAT GET PEOPLE TO WORK
TOGETHER, ENJOY TOGETHER AND SPEND TIME TOGETHER.
PURSUANT TO THE REQUESTED PROPOSAL, THE LAND DISPOSITION
AGREEMENT AND COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENTS, THIS ROME YARD
NEIGHBORHOOD IS COMMITTED TO PROVIDE MANY PROJECT AMENITIES
AND BENEFITS THAT WOULD INCLUDE IN THIS PARCEL PICNIC AREAS
AND BARBEQUE AREAS, A POOL, A FITNESS WALKING PATH.
ALSO, TRAINING CENTER, ACTIVITY SPACES FOR EVERYBODY TO
ENJOY.
ON THE SOUTHERN PARCEL, WE ARE PROVIDING WHAT WE'RE CALLING
THE GREAT LAWN, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT CIVIC SPACE OF
THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE CREATING THAT WOULD HAVE OUTDOOR
PERFORMANCE SPACES FOR MUSIC EVENTS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES.
IT WOULD INCLUDE AN EXTENSION OF THE ROAD OF WILLOW WRAPPING
AROUND ALL THE WAY UP TO OREGON WITH NEW PEDESTRIAN
WALKWAYS, STREET LIGHTING, BEAUTIFUL STREETSCAPE AND ALSO A
LOT OF BIKE PATHS.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THIS WILL ALSO INCLUDE A MURAL WALK
THAT WILL BE A PART OF THE RIVERWALK AS IT COMES THROUGH THE
DEVELOPMENT AND INTO A GATEWAY THAT WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE
WEST TAMPA CULTURAL CENTER AND ART MUSEUM.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE PINK.
THIS ILLUSTRATES THE PATH, THE RIVERWALK COMING FROM THE
HILLSBOROUGH RIVER THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT ALL THE WAY UP TO
ROME AVENUE.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IN BLUE WE HAVE THE HART BUS LINE WHERE
WE'LL PROVIDE CONNECTIONS TO.
IN ADDITION, WE ARE PROPOSING THOSE NEW ROADWAYS THAT YOU
CAN SEE UP THERE IN THE DARK BLUE THAT IS GOING TO TAKE THIS
NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAKE IT PART OF THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY
IN THIS AREA.
SO THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO AT THE END OF THE DAY TO MAKE A
COMMUNITY THAT WILL BE OPEN, THAT WILL BE ACCESSIBLE, THAT
WILL BE SAFE, AND THAT IS GOING TO BE COMFORTABLE FOR
EVERYONE TO ENJOY.
THIS ILLUSTRATION INDICATES THE TWO PARCELS THAT WE WERE
JUST REFERRING TO AND HOW THE RIVERWALK COMES THROUGH THAT
DEVELOPMENT ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH ROME AVENUE.
THIS IS A RENDERING THAT SHOWS YOU WHAT THE RIVERWALK WILL
FEEL LIKE WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS GATEWAY OF THE DEVELOPMENT
ON THE SOUTHERN WALK AND HOW WE WILL BE ACTIVATED WITH
GROUND FLOOR GALLERY SPACES, BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE, LIGHTING,

AND A LOT OF ACTIVITIES THAT WE FEEL, LIKE RESTAURANTS AND
LIFESTYLE RETAIL THAT WILL BE WELCOMING AND SAFE AND
BEAUTIFUL TO WALK THROUGH.
THESE RENDERINGS HERE ILLUSTRATE THE FEEL OF THE SPACE.
WE HAVE THE GREAT LAWN ON THE TOP VIEW, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW
THAT WOULD EXTEND ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE FRONTAGE.
SO THE INTENT OF THE PROJECT IS FOR IT TO OPEN TO EVERYBODY
THAT IS COMING FROM THE RIVERWALK, WELCOMING THOSE
ACTIVITIES AND PEOPLE GATHERING SPACES THAT ARE GOING TO BE
A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT ESSENTIALLY, YOU CAN SEE THE NEW
ROADS, HOW THAT WILL BE CONNECTING TO THE REST OF THE
NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND.
EVENTS IN THE GREAT LAWN WOULD INCLUDE MOVIE NIGHTS, MUSIC,
ACTIVITIES, OUTDOOR SEATING, AS WELL AS A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN
AND BIKE FACILITIES FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO COME INTO
THE SPACE AND BE PART OF IT.
WE ALSO HAVE GROUND FLOOR AREAS ACTIVATING THE SPACE THAT
WOULD INCLUDE RETAIL AND ALSO OUTDOOR DINING EVENTS.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO MAKE IT MORE WALKABLE, IT IS GOING TO
BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES, AS EVERYBODY
WALKS THROUGH THE SPACES.
LANDSCAPE PLAZAS, ELEMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WELCOMING
FOR EVERYBODY TO BE PART OF IT.
ALSO FOR RESIDENTIAL AMENITIES, YOU SEE THAT ONE OF THE
REQUESTS IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ACTIVATE THE ROOF DECKS SO

WE CAN THEN HAVE SPACES FOR EVERYBODY TO GATHER, SHADED
AREAS AND POSSIBLY EVEN SOME GARDENS UP THERE THAT THE
RESIDENTS COULD HAVE.
OUR GUIDELINES DESCRIBE DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS THAT WE
THINK ARE GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO BE PART OF THE
DEVELOPMENT.
THE TOWNHOMES, AS IT WAS MENTIONED, TRANSITION DOWN INTO THE
RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WEST OF ROME AVENUE, WHERE THEY ARE
GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS.
THEY WILL OPEN -- THE MAIN DOOR IS GOING TO BE FACING ROME
AVENUE WITH PATIOS AND GARDENS AND WOULD INCLUDE ELEMENTS OF
LOCAL MATERIALS THAT WE FIND THAT WOULD INCLUDE BRICK,
BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPES, AND ALSO A WIDE SETBACK FOR THE
RIVERWALK TO BE FRONTING THESE AREAS.
ALSO, THE GUIDELINES INCLUDE GARAGE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS
AND LANDSCAPE AND BEAUTIFUL SCREENING AREAS THAT WE THINK
SHOULD BE PART OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT THAT ALSO WHERE WE
HAVE THE GREAT LAWN WOULD ALSO INCLUDE RETAIL AND OUTDOOR
DINING SPACES.
9:09:33PM >> THANK YOU.
PETER VAN WARNER, SENIOR DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH RELATED
URBAN DEVELOPMENT GROUP.
1800 NORTH ROME AVENUE.
JUST LIKE ALL DEVELOPMENTS THAT RELATED GROUP DOES, WE HAVE
LOTS OF PUBLIC ART.

WE FEEL THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT NOT ONLY BECAUSE IT
INSPIRES PEOPLE, BUT IT CREATES A GREAT COMMUNITY GATHERING
PLACE.
ALTHOUGH ART IS GREAT, BY FAR THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF
THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO BE STANDING
FOR 150-PLUS YEARS.
WE HAVE ONE CHANCE TO DO IT RIGHT.
WE'VE HAD A PLETHORA OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENTS, MANY MORE
THAN ARE LISTED HERE, THE FOUR MAIN ONES.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THE RECENT ONE JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS
AGO, NUMEROUS MEETINGS WITH THE WEST TAMPA CRA, WEST TAMPA
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND ALL SORTS OF OTHER COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS.
WE FEEL THAT IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY
AS A WHOLE PROUD OF THIS.
I MEAN, PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WANT THEIR VOICES
TO BE HEARD.
WE'RE INCORPORATING ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS INDICATIVE OF THE
CIGAR TOWERS, INDICATIVE OF THE RICH HISTORY OF WEST TAMPA
AND TAMPA IN GENERAL.
BUT REALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT COMES DOWN TO THE
ENTIRE COMMUNITY SUPPORTING AND BEING PROUD OF THIS
DEVELOPMENT.
IN SUMMARY, ROME YARDS WILL BE A VIBRANT MIXED USE, MIXED

INCOME DEVELOPMENT, A SOCIOECONOMIC HUB, IF YOU WILL.
INCREASES NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIVITY, INCLUDING THE EXPANSION
OF THE CITY OF TAMPA RIVERWALK WHICH WILL CUT RIGHT THROUGH
OUR DEVELOPMENT AND WILL HAVE AN EXTENSION OF THE SOUL WALK
WITH PUBLIC ART OFFERINGS ALL THROUGHOUT THE RIVERWALK.
PROJECT AMENITIES AND COMMUNITY BENEFITS, THE WEST TAMPA
CULTURAL AND ART MUSEUM, THE WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER,
GREAT LAWN, PUBLIC ART, AS I MENTIONED, PERHAPS MOST
IMPORTANTLY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE CONSIDERATION.
9:11:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:11:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.
A COMMENT REALLY.
WHAT HAVE WE DONE REGARDING THE ENVIRONMENT?
TYPES OF MATERIALS OR ANY SOLAR OR ANY SAVING OF WATER
UNDERGROUND, WHATEVER.
9:11:37PM >> YES, SIR.
IT WILL BE LEED CERTIFIED AT A MINIMUM.
WE'LL ACTUALLY TRY TO GO FOR LEED GOLD, BUT SUSTAINABILITY
IS VERY IMPORTANT.
9:11:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT LEED,
BUT ANY SOLAR OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE TO HELP LOWER THE
COST OF ELECTRICITY FOR THE DWELLERS?
9:11:52PM >> WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THAT STAGE OF THE PROJECT,

COUNCILMAN, BUT ONE OF THE COMPONENTS THAT WE MENTIONED THAT
WE'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER ON IS THOSE ACTIVATED GREEN ROOFS.
THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS ONE OF THE COMPONENTS THAT STARTS
TO LOWER SOME OF THE SOLAR EFFECT OF THE BUILDINGS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE WAIVERS WE'RE REQUESTING.
9:12:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE REASON I ASK THAT, I COME FROM PUBLIC
HOUSING.
BACK IN THE '50s, WE HAD SOLAR ON THE ROOF.
IT WAS ONLY FOR HOT WATER, BUT WE HAD SOLAR.
SO I KEEP THAT IN MIND AND I USE IT ONCE IN A WHILE TO FIND
OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:12:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
TO THIS?
9:12:53PM >> KEN BRACKINS, 2305 NORTH WILLOW AVENUE.
DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROJECT.
RICK'S ON THE RIVER BEEN THERE GOING ON 29 YEARS.
SO I'VE SEEN IT ALL OVER THERE.
I'M ENCOURAGING YOU GUYS TO PASS THIS REZONING EFFORT FOR
MANY REASONS, BUT I'VE SEEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE WORST
AND I'VE SEEN IT, IT'S COMING BACK WITH THE DEMISE OF THE
NORTH BOULEVARD HOMES.
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN A LOT BETTER.
WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THAT AREA FOR YEARS WITH VAGRANTS.

THERE WAS A SHOOTING OVER THERE IN THE PARKING LOT A FEW
MONTHS AGO.
JUST SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
THEY HAVE REALLY GIVEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THIS.
IT LOOKS GREAT.
THERE'S ARGUABLY, I'M GOING TO BE THE ONE IMPACTED THE MOST
BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME COMPETITION.
I'M FINE WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S ALL I'M UP HERE TO SAY IS PLEASE CONSIDER IT AND
HOPEFULLY YOU PASS IT.
THANK YOU.
9:14:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
COMPETITION.
I THINK COMPETITION IS GOING TO COME TO YOU AND YOU --
YOU'LL HAVE TO HAVE MORE SERVERS.
9:14:17PM >> GOOD EVENING, AGAIN.
MY NAME IS SANDY DI DIEGO SANCHEZ.
I LIVE IN WEST TAMPA.
MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT I AM INVOLVED IN MANY ORGANIZATIONS
THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO I CAN APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK THAT'S BEING PUT FORTH TO
MAKE ROME YARD A SUCCESS.
THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WILL BRING FORTH
A LOT OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE NEED AND THE

EMPHASIS ON CULTURAL INTERACTION IS POSITIVE.
I KNOW YOU'RE NOT VOTING FOR ANYTHING THIS EVENING, BUT AS
THE PROJECT MOVES FORWARD AND I'M SURE SOME OF THE STUMBLING
BLOCKS WILL BE CONQUERED, SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THERE
ARE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT SUPPORT THIS.
9:15:10PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M DELPHINE JONES WITH WEST TAMPA CAC BOARD AND ALSO THE
CRIME WATCH GROUP.
I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUALMS WITH IT.
WHEN IT'S DONE, IT WILL BE AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON THIS A LONG TIME.
I'VE BEEN AT IT 27 YEARS.
I'M GROWING TOO OLD.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO GET REST SOONER OR LATER.
9:15:54PM >> HI.
I AM DANIELLE DIETZ.
I'M ON WEST SAINT CONRAD.
I'M NOT ONLY IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED
FOR IT.
ACTUALLY IN THE TAMPA BAY BUSINESS JOURNAL YOU WERE
INTERVIEWED RECENTLY AND THE QUESTION WAS, HOW DO YOU DEFINE
SMART DEVELOPMENT?
I THINK THIS PROJECT IS A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.
NOT ONLY THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR,

BUT THE PROACTIVE OUTREACH WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, THE
INCLUSIVITY OF UNDERREPRESENTED GROUPS IN THE CULTURAL
ELEMENTS.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO MAKE A REALLY GOOD IMPACT FOR THE
COMMUNITY NOT ONLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE, BUT FOR THE GROWTH TO
COME.
9:16:36PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL.
JOE ROBINSON, WEST TAMPA CRA VICE-CHAIR, WEST TAMPA CDC
VICE-CHAIR, BUSINESS MAN IN WEST TAMPA, BEEN THERE ALL MY
LIFE, CHARLIE, THIS IS IN THE CRA, MR. GUDES.
THIS IS CRA.
IT'S IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, MR. GUDES.
OKAY.
THAT IS THE FIRST THING.
IT IS A NATIONAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, CHARLIE, GUIDO.
OKAY.
IT'S A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT BENEFIT AGREEMENT, CITY COUNCIL,
SOMETHING YOU ALL FOUGHT FOR FOR YEARS, THE VERY FIRST
COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT IS HERE.
IT'S A PROPERTY THAT WILL PARTIALLY BE CONVEYED AND
PARTIALLY LEASED BY THE DEVELOPER.
AFFORDABLE HOUSING, NOT 200,000 ACRES OF WET ZONING,
AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
WE'RE TALKING APPROXIMATELY 954 RESIDENTIAL UNITS WITH AT

LEAST 647 AFFORDABLE UNITS, HOUSING, HOUSING, HOUSING, WAY
MORE THAN ANY 30% AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
209,844 SQUARE FEET COMMERCIAL RETAIL SPACE.
3,761 SQUARE FOOT WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER NEEDED IN A SLUM
AND BLIGHTED AREA.
SLUM AND BLIGHTED IS WHAT IT IS NOW.
THE WEST TAMPA CULTURAL ARTS CENTER AND MUSEUM, EVEN THOUGH
THEY WANT TO PUT ONE UP THE STREET, WE'LL BEAT THEM TO IT
BECAUSE THEY AIN'T GOT THEIR MONEY YET.
THESE PEOPLE BRINGING THEIR OWN MONEY.
LISTEN, I'VE BEEN WAITING ALL MY LIFE FOR THIS.
I'VE BEEN FIGHTING HARD FOR THIS.
I TOOK SOME BEATINS'.
YOU-ALL AIN'T THE ONLY ONES THAT TAKE BEATINGS, MR. CARLSON.
I TAKE A LOT OF BEATINGS, MS. HURTAK.
A LOT OF THEM.
A LOT OF THEM.
BUT I GET UP AND KEEP ON TRYING.
THIS IS A BLESSING.
CRA, SLUM AND BLIGHTED COMMUNITY, OKAY, AND THIS IS A PIECE
OF THE CRA.
THIS IS A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
GO UP ON MAIN STREET AND SEE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO OUR PARKS.
LOOK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO LIGHTING, CRIME.

PUBLIC SAFETY AND CRIME, I KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF CRIME.
THIS WILL DO THAT.
THIS WILL PROVIDE WORKFORCE FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED A JOB.
THIS WILL WORK WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, EVEN THOUGH JUSTICES
THERE MAY BE REMOVED OR MAY BE REBUILT.
WE COME A LONG WAY, SO I'M ASKING YOU TO GO AHEAD AND LOOK
AT THIS REZONING AND THIS INFRASTRUCTURE AND AGREEMENT.
BRING IT BACK ON THE 20th OF APRIL, WHATEVER THEY WANT,
BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY DONE HEARD THIS OVER AND OVER.
ONE THING THEY KNOW, MR. GUDES, SLUM AND BLIGHT, GOING TO
HAVE NEGATIVE EFFECTS.
IF IT LOOK BEAUTIFUL, PUT ON A NICE SUIT AND NICE HAT, IT
WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THE PEOPLE IN THE HOOD OR ON THE
STREETS.
THAT'S WHY WE PUT MONEY AND THANKS TO YOU ALL APPROVING $1
MILLION FOR SALCINES PARK, $2 MILLION REY PARK WHEN THE CITY
DIDN'T HAVE NO MONEY.
WE PUT THE MOTION AND YOU GUYS APPROVED IT.
MORE TO COME.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU ALL, WHETHER YOU BE THERE
OR NOT, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND WE APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'RE DOING.
THANK YOU AND LET'S MOVE ON.
9:19:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
IS MR. RANDOLPH ON THE LINE?
9:20:05PM >> YES.
CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:20:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THERE HE IS.
9:20:09PM >> OKAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
I'M --
9:20:15PM >>THE CLERK:
MR. RANDOLPH, WE WILL NEED YOU TO ENABLE YOUR
VIDEO BEING THAT THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING.
9:20:23PM >> OKAY.
YOU CAN'T SEE MY VIDEO?
OH, HERE YOU GO.
IS THAT IT?
9:20:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THERE YOU GO.
9:20:29PM >> EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU.
I'M QUITE EXCITED ABOUT THIS --
9:20:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
CAN WE BRING HIM UP ON FULL SCREEN, PLEASE?
9:20:40PM >>THE CLERK:
YOU WILL ALSO NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
9:20:46PM >> THE OTHER RIGHT HAND.
9:20:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THERE YOU GO.
9:20:53PM >>THE CLERK:
DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE

ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
9:20:57PM >> YES.
9:21:00PM >>THE CLERK:
YOU MAY LOWER YOUR HAND.
THANK YOU.
9:21:02PM >> IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.
YOU ALL SHOULD GET THAT, PSYCHOLOGICALLY DRAINING AS CITY
COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'M HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT THE DEAL RELATING TO WEST TAMPA CDC.
THE WEST TAMPA CDC WAS CHARGED WITH PUTTING TOGETHER A DEAL
TO BRING HOME THE BACON AS WE SAY AT THE TABLE.
THERE WERE FOUR KEY COMPONENTS THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED TO
SEE.
THEY WANTED TO SEE A REDUCTION IN GENTRIFICATION BY DESIGN
AND INTENTIONALLY.
THEY WANTED TO SEE A REDUCTION IN CRIME IN PUBLIC SAFETY
INCREASE.
THEY WANT TO SEE AN INCREASE IN GENERATIONAL WEALTH, LESS
THAN 3% OF RESIDENTS IN WEST TAMPA OWN THEIR OWN BUSINESS
AND THEN A REDUCTION IN THE TECHNOLOGY GAP.
TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS KNOWN AS THE WEST TAMPA WEALTH
BUILDING INITIATIVE.
THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS TO THIS INITIATIVE.
THE FIRST PART OF THE INITIATIVE IS CALLED WEST TAMPA
CONNECTION.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A WEB-BASED PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO IN AND

CONNECT.
IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT LOOKING FOR A JOB IN WEST TAMPA, YOU
CAN COLLECT TO A WEST TAMPA EMPLOYER AND BEYOND.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT IN WEST TAMPA AND LOOKING FOR
SOMETHING TO BUY, LIKE A WEST TAMPA DOOR, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO
CONNECT TO BUSINESSES IN WEST TAMPA.
THE SECOND PART OF THIS INITIATIVE IS CALLED A HOME BASED
E-COMMERCE INITIATIVE.
AS YOU KNOW, THE FASTEST GROWING BUSINESS IN THE NATION IS
E-COMMERCE AND HOME-BASED BUSINESSES.
WHAT WE PROPOSE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS IS TO BRING ON BOARD
ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO 70 TYPE OF BUSINESSES FULL-TIME AND
PART-TIME RESIDENTS IN WEST TAMPA.
OUR TARGETED POPULATION ARE THOSE THAT ARE LEFT BEHIND.
THEY INCLUDE THE LOW INCOME, THOSE -- THE DISABLED, LOW AND
MODERATE INCOME.
THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WE TALK ABOUT IS ANYWHERE FROM
LANDSCAPING, CAKE MAKING, ONE OF THE MOST FASTEST GROWING
BUSINESSES, CAKE MAKING.
CLEANING SERVICES.
WE'VE HAD OVER 12 COMMUNITY MEETINGS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS
TO GET INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
THIS TIME IT IS A WIN-WIN BECAUSE IT GOES TO REDUCING
GENTRIFICATION BY DESIGN AND INTENTIONALLY.
YOU KNOW THERE'S OVER 45% OF THE RESIDENTS IN WEST TAMPA

THAT ARE LOW INCOME.
WITH THIS DEAL -- I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR -- I
WANTED TO THANK THE RELATED GROUP, THE TAMPA HOUSING
AUTHORITY, THE RESIDENTS OF WEST TAMPA BRINGING THIS DEAL TO
THE TABLE.
THIS TIME IS A WIN-WIN DEAL FOR THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA AND
SPECIFICALLY THE RESIDENTS OF WEST TAMPA AND AGAIN, THANK
YOU VERY MUCH.
AND WE DO APPROVE THIS DEAL.
9:24:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
MR. CREMER, WOULD YOU LIKE REBUTTAL.
9:24:35PM >> I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS MANY SMILES IN A REZONING IN A LONG
TIME.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
OUR ENTIRE TIME IS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
9:24:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU AGREE TO THE REVISION BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING?
9:24:48PM >> YES, SIR, WE DO.
9:24:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, SIR.
9:24:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:24:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR INVOLVING THE
COMMUNITY SO MUCH BECAUSE AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM PREVIOUS
ITEMS TONIGHT, THAT IS A BIG STICKING POINT FOR US.
BUT WITH THIS AND ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE HAD EARLIER
TONIGHT, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THIS PDA

GOES FORWARD AND WE'RE DOING INCREMENTAL DESIGN AND
DEVELOPMENT, WHAT ARE THE RESIDENTS, HOW CAN THEY GET THEIR
-- IF ISSUES COME UP, I DON'T WANT TO SAY IF, BECAUSE WHEN,
BECAUSE THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMETHING, HOW ARE THEY GOING
TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH YOU AND MAKE SURE THAT THE
RESIDENTS WHO ARE ON BOARD WITH THIS NOW CONTINUE TO BE ON
BOARD THROUGHOUT?
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE.
SO HOW CAN WE ASSURE THAT THE RESIDENTS WILL CONTINUE TO BE
A PART OF THIS.
9:25:55PM >> ALBERT AND PETER HAVE COMMENTS.
IN THE LDA AND THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT, THERE ARE
REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO REGULARLY HOLD CONTINUAL
COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
WE ALSO, BY THE WAY, UNDER ALL THREE AGREEMENTS, WE HAVE TO
GIVE YOUR STAFF CONTINUAL UPDATES ON THE PROGRESS OF THE
PROJECT.
9:26:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I FORGOT ABOUT COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
IT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS, OBVIOUSLY.
I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE NOT SHY.
THEY WILL LET YOU KNOW.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR WE WILL HAVE THOSE INCREMENTAL MEETINGS SO
THAT THIS CAN BE A CONTINUOUSLY POSITIVE PROJECT.

BECAUSE THERE WILL BE HICCUPS, BUT THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF
LIFE.
OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AGAIN, REALLY APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
9:26:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:26:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AGAIN, THANK YOU.
I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE TRANSFORMATIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY,
LIFTING THE COMMUNITY UP.
YOU SEE NOTHING BUT SUPPORT OUT HERE.
I'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT AREA MY WHOLE LIFE AND YOU SEE WHAT
IT'S LIKE AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE AND THE ATTENTION TO
DETAIL FOR A GREAT QUALITY OF LIFE.
THE AMENITIES THAT YOU'RE OFFERING TO THE COMMUNITY, THE
INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC ART, I CAN GO ON AND ON.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WOULD SUGGEST WE MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE
AND APPROVE THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO DISAPPOINT JOE
ROBINSON.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:27:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WAS THAT A MOTION, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
9:27:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'LL SECOND THAT, BUT ALONG WITH
COUNCILMAN GUIDO JUST SAID, MANISCALCO, THIS IS THE START OF
GIVING SOMEONE HOPE THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE.
AND WHEN YOU CHANGE THE SCENERY AND YOU CHANGE THE
ENVIRONMENT OF WHAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY, IT MAKES EVERYBODY
MUCH BETTER.

AND YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE EDUCATION YOU WANT, BUT IT'S WHAT
YOU SEE AND WHAT YOU LEARN THAT MAKES YOU A DIFFERENT
PERSON.
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR IT.
9:27:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
9:28:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. ROBINSON SAID IT RIGHT, WHEN YOU LOOK
GOOD YOU FEEL GOOD.
WHEN YOU FEEL GOOD, YOU DO GOOD.
THAT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BEAST.
DEION SANDERS USED TO COME HERE IN THE SUMMERS AND PLAY OUR
BALL CLUBS.
FIRST TIME HE CAME WAS AT BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL.
EVERYBODY WANTED TO COME OUT AND SEE PRIME-TIME.
PLAYING ON THE EIGHT-YEAR-OLD SQUAD.
DEION COACHED EVERY TEAM.
NOT JUST ONE, HE COACHED EVERY TEAM CONSISTENTLY, THE SAME
SYSTEM, THE SAME SYSTEM, THE SAME SYSTEM.
REMEMBER LIKE IT WAS TOMORROW.
I CAN REMEMBER WHEN THOSE KIDS SAW DEION'S KIDS GET OFF THE
BUS, WHAT I CALL THE PSYCHEDELIC UNIFORM, THE AIR HELMETS,
THE LOOK, IT CHANGES THE MINDSET BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE VISUAL.
AND I CAN SEE THE KIDS LIKE, WOW, DEION IS HERE, THE
UNIFORM.
THAT'S WHY WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
AGREEMENT, I KNEW THAT COULD BE A TRANSFORMATIVE THING.

I HEARD ABOUT MIAMI DOING IT AND OTHER PLACES.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE LAND USE DEALS ALL THE TIME, THE PROBLEM,
THEY CAN GO THROUGH VARIOUS, IF YOU HAVE COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT.
IF THE COMMUNITY IS INVOLVED, NOT JUST I WANT TO BUILD, BUT
YOU INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY IN THE PROJECT.
YOU DON'T HAVE THESE ISSUES, YES AND NOES, MAYBE A FEW
HICCUPS, BUT PRETTY MUCH THE COMMUNITY CAN BE INVOLVED IN
THE PROCESS OF THEIR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY
LIVE AT.
THEY ARE A PART OF IT.
THEY FEEL OWNERSHIP TO IT AND THEY HAVE A PROJECT OF THIS
MAGNITUDE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE PROUD TO BE A PART OF IT
TO WANT TO LIVE THERE, COME VISIT THERE AND CHANGE THE
MINDSET OF PEOPLE FROM SLUM AND BLIGHT, GIVE PEOPLE
OPPORTUNITY.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO ENVISION FOR ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
I DON'T CARE WHAT COMMUNITY IT IS, TO BE INCLUSIVE OF
EVERYONE, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE INCLUSIVE, I DON'T CARE IF YOU
COME FROM THE PROJECTS, BUT IF YOU PULL SOMEBODY OUT OF
THERE OR YOU GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY, IT'S UP TO THEM TO TAKE IT
AND NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN MOST PEOPLE WANT THAT OPPORTUNITY,
PERIOD.
SO I'M GLAD WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD TEAM MEMBERS ON BAD.
MS. TRAVIS, SHE'LL WATCH.

MR. ROBINSON IS GETTING UP THERE, BUT I KNOW HE'LL WATCH IT.
SANDY AND MS. DELPHINE.
I'LL BE WATCHING.
I'M STILL A LITTLE YOUNG.
I HOPE WE AGAIN LOOK AT THE PROJECTS, ALL OF THEM IN THE
FUTURE AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A CULTURE AND ENVIRONMENT OF
COMMUNITY TO MAKE THEM MOVE.
WE THANK THE RELATED GROUP FOR THE PROJECT, FOR BEING IN
TAMPA.
WE KNOW HICCUPS IN THE BEGINNING, BUT SOMETIMES THINGS TO
PAN ITSELF OUT.
THANK YOU.
9:30:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:31:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SINCE EVERYBODY ELSE IS MAKING STATEMENTS,
I'LL MAKE A COUPLE.
ONE, THANK YOU TO THE DEVELOPER FOR INVESTING IN THE ARTS
AND MANY OF THE OTHER AMENITIES.
THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT I DISCUSSED
WITH LEGAL THAT I JUST WANT TO PUT OUT THERE FOR ANYBODY WHO
IS WATCHING.
NUMBER ONE, THE PUBLIC HAS CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE CITY
CATEGORIZES AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
CLEARLY 190% OF AMI IS NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER 140 IS.
I WOULD SUGGEST IN THE FUTURE THIS IS A CITY THING, NOT THE

DEVELOPER, BUT THAT WE BE REALLY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT'S
WORKFORCE HOUSING AND WHAT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I THINK STAFF HAS SAID THEY ARE DOING THAT BUT I WANT TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC A LOT THE
LAST FEW MONTHS AND WE'VE HEARD CLEARLY THAT'S A CONCERN.
THEY DON'T WANT THE CITY OR DEVELOPERS TO OVERCOUNT.
NUMBER TWO, MY COLLEAGUE ALLUDED TO IT, BUT THERE WAS A LOT
OF CONTROVERSY ABOUT THIS IN THE BEGINNING.
TOILET TO TAP IS THE THING PEOPLE ARE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT.
CRIME, HANNA AVENUE, BUT THIS IS FOURTH OR FIFTH, AND IT'S
THE WAY THE RFP WAS DONE, NOT THE FAULT OF THE DEVELOPER,
BUT JUST THE WAY THE CITY HANDLED THE RFP AND THE
CONSULTANTS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN IT.
I SPENT SOME TIME TALKING TO LEGAL, AND I JUST WANT TO -- I
WANT TO TELL THE PUBLIC THAT THE DECISIONS ON THAT WERE MADE
A YEAR AGO.
EVEN IF I VOTED NO ON THIS, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THAT RFP
PROCESS.
WHATEVER SOMEBODY IN THE PUBLIC THINKS ABOUT THE RFP PROCESS
FROM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THIS HAS NO BEARING ON IT.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT DESPITE CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC,
I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE
COMMUNITY AND THERE'S NO WAY TO GO BACK AND CHANGE WHATEVER
HAPPENED IN THE PAST.
THANK YOU.

9:33:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE MOVED TO CLOSE, I THINK.
9:33:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED.
9:33:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THE MOTION PASSES.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:33:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
ITEM 10, FILE REZ-22-132, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2609 NORTH ROME AVENUE AND 2301 NORTH OREGON AVENUE IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION NMU-35,
NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE-35, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ALL
NMU-35 USES, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS, BUSINESS SCHOOL,
VOCATIONAL SCHOOL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
AND THE REVISION, AND THE WAIVERS WILL BE ADDRESSED DURING
THE SECOND READING, BEFORE WE DO THE SECOND READING PROCESS.
9:34:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
ROLL CALL VOTE.

9:34:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
9:34:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
9:34:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
9:34:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
9:34:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
9:34:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
9:34:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
9:34:30PM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON APRIL 20th,
2023, AT 10:30 A.M.
9:34:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
9:34:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECOND READING.
AGENDA ITEM 11, PH 23-80116.
9:35:00PM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS A MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE AND RIVERWALK AGREEMENT.
THIS IS REQUIRED BY THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
THIS IS AN AGREEMENT THAT REQUIRES TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS
BECAUSE IT'S A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT UNDER FLORIDA STATUTES,
SO YOU WILL NOT BE ACTING ON IT TONIGHT.
THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE I BELIEVE APRIL 20th.
SO I DO WANT TO REMIND YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO ANNOUNCE THE
DATE OF THE SECOND HEARING AT THIS HEARING AT THE END OF
THIS.
SO THIS AGREEMENT COVERS FIVE DIFFERENT AREAS, EXISTING
INFRASTRUCTURE, UPGRADED AND NEW INFRASTRUCTURE, THE

CONSTRUCTION OF THE RIVERWALK, MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS AND
POTENTIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO CITY EASEMENTS.
SO THIS OUTLINES THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL
BE EITHER REMOVING, UPGRADING, REPAIRING, OR INSTRUCTING NEW
INFRASTRUCTURE, ONE OF WHICH IS A NEW PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY
THAT CONNECTS WILLOW AND OREGON, THAT GOES AROUND THE
SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
THIS ALSO SETS OUT MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS, AND IT ALSO
INCLUDES THE PHASING AND TIMING PLAN AS EXHIBIT TWO.
THE PHASING AND TIMING PLAN IS ALSO SPECIFICALLY REQUIRED BY
THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT.
SO EVEN THOUGH IT IS AN EXHIBIT TO THIS AGREEMENT, YOU WILL
BE APPROVING IT AS AN EXHIBIT TO THIS AGREEMENT IF YOU
APPROVE THE AGREEMENT.
I WILL ALSO BE BRINGING THAT BACK SEPARATELY APRIL 20th SO
THAT THERE IS A SEPARATE RESOLUTION APPROVING THAT IF YOU
APPROVE IT.
THE DEVELOPER IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:36:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO QUESTIONS FOR EITHER.
DOES ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WISH TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
11, FILE NUMBER PH 23-80116?
9:37:06PM >> JAKE CREMER FOR THE APPLICANT.
401 EAST JACKSON STREET, 2100.
I WORKED WITH YOUR LEGAL STAFF.

WE LOOKED AT TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S POINT EARLIER, WE
LOOKED AT ALMOST ALL OF THE LARGE PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITY.
MOST HAVE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS LIKE THIS SO WE CAN FIGURE
OUT THE LESSONS LEARNED, THE BEST OF WHAT THEY DID AND WE
INCORPORATED THAT INTO THIS AGREEMENT.
WE'D APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT TONIGHT.
9:37:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MR. ROBINSON, DID I SEE YOU GETTING UP?
9:37:36PM >> YES, THIS IS THE LAST TIME.
THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
THIS IS WHAT DRIVES -- THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND COMMENTS, MR.
CARLSON.
KIND COMMENTS.
YOU'RE CORRECT.
LISTEN, I'LL SAY THE SAME THING I SAID BEFORE BUT THIS IS
THE ACTUAL THAT DRIVES IT.
THIS WHOLE THICK DOCUMENT WITH ALL THE TECHNICAL TERMS,
SIDEWALKS, HOW WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT, OVERLAY, THEY
GOT TO DEAL WITH ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THIS SITE IS UNIQUE BECAUSE THE CITY'S PIPING COMES
UNDERNEATH IT AND YOU CAN'T MOVE IT.
YOU CAN'T MOVE IT.
THAT WAS DETERMINED EARLY ON.
YOU'RE SEEING SOMETHING IS BEING DESIGNED, YOU HAVE THICK
SPIKES AND YOU GOT TO DESIGN AROUND IT AND DOING A DECENT
JOB.

NOW WE ADDED THE RIVERWALK COMING THROUGH THAT OVER THERE
WITH THE SOUL WALK AND ALL OF THAT.
IT'S NOT A VERY SIMPLE PROJECT.
IT'S COMPLEX, AND THIS MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE AGREEMENT SETS
THE GROUNDWORK.
SO WITH THAT, I ASK YOU TO ALSO APPROVE THAT AND BRING IT
BACK FOR THE FINAL AND ALL THAT IN APRIL.
THANK YOU.
9:38:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. FEELEY.
9:38:51PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT AND GIVE A
SHOUT-OUT TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS COME TOGETHER AND WORKED ON
THIS AGREEMENT.
WE MET EVERY OTHER WEEK FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS.
THE HEAD OF WATER, WASTEWATER, CHAD BAILEY, CAL HARDIE,
MOBILITY, JEFF HILTON, SUSAN JOHNSON IN SUBDIVISION.
JUST GETTING THIS TOGETHER.
I KNOW YOU SAW THE PIPES UNDERNEATH.
THIS IS ALL ABOUT THE BONES THAT MAKE A DEVELOPMENT WORK,
AND WE ARE REALLY, REALLY BLESSED TO HAVE SUCH AN AWESOME
CITY TEAM THAT WAS ABLE TO BRING THOSE THINGS TOGETHER AND
GET THIS TO COME -- TO HAVE THE BONES UNDERNEATH WHAT YOU'RE
GOING TO SEE COMING OUT OF THE GROUND.
SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO THE TEAM IN
HELPING OVER THE PAST SIX MONTHS.
I GUESS I WON'T SEE YOU NEXT WEDNESDAY MORNING, BUT THANK

YOU VERY MUCH TO EVERYBODY WHO HAS WORKED ON THIS.
9:39:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
MR. RANDOLPH.
YOU'RE MUTED, MR. RANDOLPH.
9:39:52PM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:39:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, SIR.
9:39:55PM >> I CANNOT OVEREMPHASIZE THIS WONDERFUL PROJECT THAT'S
BEING PUT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
WHEN PEOPLE HEAR ABOUT DEVELOPMENT, THEY ASSOCIATE IT WITH
GENTRIFICATION.
THIS PROJECT INTENTIONALLY EMBODIES BY DESIGN REDUCE THE
LEVEL OF GENTRIFICATION IN THE COMMUNITY.
THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT GO TO BED AT NIGHT IN WEST TAMPA, IN
POOR COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND WONDER WHETHER OR
NOT THEY ARE GOING TO BE DISPLACED FROM THEIR COMMUNITY.
WE THINK THIS SERVES AS A NATIONAL, THAT YOU CAN DO BOTH
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND REDUCE GENTRIFICATION AT THE SAME
TIME.
AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF
THE CHANGE IN WEST TAMPA.
9:40:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE?
9:40:58PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
9:40:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN

MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THE MOTION CARRIES.
9:41:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ANNOUNCEMENT PLEASE BY THE CLERK FOR THE
SECOND READING AND THE CONSIDERATION OF THE RESOLUTION,
PLEASE.
9:41:19PM >>THE CLERK:
SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL
20, 2023, AT 10:30 A.M.
9:41:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL GO TO INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW
BUSINESS.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANYTHING?
9:41:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I NEED TO RATIFY A COMMENDATION I GAVE TO
SOARING SPRINGS INTERNATIONAL, A WIDOW SUPPORT GROUP LAST
FRIDAY.
9:41:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
9:42:12PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE ALSO NATASHA PERRY AND ROSIE DELGADO
ARE A PAIR, A MENTOR AND A MENTEE AND BEST BUDDIES, AND FOR
FRIENDSHIP MONTH, I WANT TO GIVE THEM A COMMENDATION FOR 15

YEARS OF MENTORSHIP THROUGH BEST BUDDIES ON MAY 4, IF I MAY.
9:42:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
9:42:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LASTLY, TO BE PRESENTED YOU HAVE A PREMISES
COMMENDATION FOR VIETNAM VETERANS OF AMERICA 787 ON THE
45th ANNIVERSARY.
9:42:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:42:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NO.
9:42:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
I HAVE A MOTION, REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO
CONTINUE TA/CPA 22-31 FROM THE ADOPTION AND PUBLIC HEARING
SCHEDULE ON MAY 25, 2023, AT 5:01 P.M. TO JUNE 22, 2023 AT
5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE
CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE
PUBLIC HEARING.
9:43:18PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOTION BY MR. MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.

ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
9:43:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ALL RIGHT.
WE'RE ADJOURNED.
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