TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 6, 2023, 9:00 A.M.
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09:01:06AM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:01:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
09:01:15AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON -- GOOD MORNING.
09:01:21AM CITY COUNCIL HELD THIS DAY, APRIL 6, 2023.
09:01:25AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:01:28AM I BELIEVE YOU HAVE INVOCATION.
09:01:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, HE IS WALKING IN.
09:01:37AM SEPTEMBER 15, 2013, AARON AND HIS WIFE, KATIE, TOOK A
09:01:44AM STEP OF FAITH AND PLANTED RADIANT CHURCH.
09:01:47AM THEIR DREAM OF SEEING TAMPA BAY IMPACTED WITH KINGDOM
09:01:51AM OF GOD -- SORRY, I RAN UPSTAIRS.
09:01:54AM DAILY BECOMING A REALITY.
09:01:56AM RADIANT CHURCH HAS SEEN GROWTH AND EXPANSION WITH SEVEN
09:02:01AM PHYSICAL LOCATIONS AND AN ONLINE CAMPUS.
09:02:04AM AARON HAS A HEART FOR MULTIPLICATION AND HAS PLANS TO
09:02:08AM CONTINUE TO OPEN LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT TAMPA BAY.
09:02:10AM THEY FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THE BEST IS YET TO COME FOR RADIANT
09:02:14AM CHURCH IN TAMPA BAY.
09:02:20AM AARON GRADUATED FROM SOUTHEAST UNIVERSITY AND RECEIVED
09:02:25AM A MASTER'S OF ADMINISTRATION.
09:02:25AM AND CREATED HIS DOCTORATE IN 2020.
09:02:28AM HE AND HIS WIFE HAVE BEEN MARRIED AND HAVE THREE CHILDREN.
09:02:34AM ONE OF THE CAMPUSES IS NEAR WHERE I USED TO LIVE IN BRITTON
09:02:39AM PLAZA.
09:02:39AM YOU CAN'T GET A PARKING SPACE IN BRITTON PLAZA ANYWHERE ON A
09:02:44AM SUNDAY BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THIS CHURCH.
09:02:45AM ALSO, MY FRIEND PEGGY LAMB IS HAVING SURGERY SO KEEP HER IN YOUR
09:02:57AM PRAYERS.
09:03:00AM >> AN HONOR TO BE WITH Y'ALL.
09:03:02AM WE ARE ALWAYS PRAYING WITH YOU ALL AND TAKE A MOMENT TO PRAY
09:03:06AM ON THIS HOLY WEEK ALSO.
09:03:07AM FATHER GOD, WE COME TO YOU TODAY, AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU
09:03:11AM ARE DOING IN THE TAMPA AREA.
09:03:12AM WE THANK YOU FOR OUR COUNCILMEN AND COUNCILWOMAN AND WHAT THEY DO
09:03:16AM FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
09:03:16AM WE PRAY ESPECIALLY THIS WEEK FOR -- DURING A HOLY WEEK THAT
09:03:20AM WE WILL KEEP OUR FOCUS ON WHAT YOU -- ON WHAT THIS WEEK
09:03:25AM MEANS.
09:03:26AM THANK YOU FOR OUR JEWISH BROTHERS AND SISTERS ON PASSOVER
09:03:29AM AND WHAT THAT MEANS, AND OBVIOUSLY FOR US AS CHRISTIANS, WHAT
09:03:32AM IT MEANS AND WHAT YOU DID ON THE CROSS 2,000 YEARS AGO.
09:03:35AM I PRAY FOR WISDOM OVER THIS MEETING TODAY.
09:03:38AM I PRAY FOR PEGGY AND THE SURGERY THAT IS HAPPENING.
09:03:41AM PRAY HEALING OVER HER BODY.
09:03:43AM AND WE PRAY THAT YOUR HAND OF DIVINE FAVOR WILL REST ON OUR
09:03:49AM CITY, ON OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:03:50AM LORD, YOU CONTINUE TO KEEP US SAFE, PROTECT US, AND LET US
09:03:54AM HONOR YOU.
09:03:54AM AND THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN OUR LIVES.
09:03:57AM IN YOUR NAME, WE PRAY.
09:03:59AM AMEN.
09:03:59AM >> AMEN.
09:04:02AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:04:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE BE SEATED.
09:04:15AM ROLL CALL.
09:04:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:04:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:04:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:04:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:04:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:04:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M HERE.
09:04:27AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:04:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:04:30AM I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM MARCH
09:04:34AM 9, MARCH 16, AND MARCH 23, 2023.
09:04:37AM MOTION HAS BEEN MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:04:40AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:04:42AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:04:43AM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
09:04:44AM MOTION PASSES.
09:04:46AM LET'S GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM
09:04:49AM OF THE AGENDA.
09:04:50AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:04:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A REQUEST.
09:04:53AM IF WE CAN PULL ITEM NUMBER 84 FOR DISCUSSION, AND IT IS WITH A
09:05:02AM CHANGE ORDER WITH NELSON CONSTRUCTION.
09:05:06AM I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AND THAT IS UNDER MY COMMITTEE.
09:05:09AM IF WE CAN PULL 84 FOR DISCUSSION.
09:05:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
09:05:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD LIKE THAT DURING OUR STAFF REPORTS.
09:05:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:05:18AM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:05:19AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:05:21AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:05:22AM OPPOSED?
09:05:23AM MOTION DOES PASS.
09:05:24AM MISS TRAVIS, GOOD MORNING.
09:05:35AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS THIS MORNING.
09:05:38AM NICOLE TRAVIS, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY.
09:05:42AM WE HAVE A WALK-ON FOR APPROVING THE MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE
09:05:46AM FOR RIVERWALK FOR ROME YARD.
09:05:48AM WE BRIEFED YOU ALL ON THIS, TO NO FAULT OF THE APPLICANT OR
09:05:53AM THE CITY STAFF, IT WAS A GLITCH WITH THE NEWSPAPER AND THE
09:05:57AM NOTICING OF THIS IN THIS ASSIGNMENT.
09:06:04AM WE ARE ASKING YOU TO SET A HEARING FOR THIS APRIL.
09:06:08AM >> SO MOVED.
09:06:09AM >> SECOND.
09:06:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:06:18AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:06:19AM MR. SHELBY.
09:06:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CLERK HAVE A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION?
09:06:23AM OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:06:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:06:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:06:27AM MOTION PASSES.
09:06:29AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
09:06:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SHALL WE GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT ITEMS
09:06:34AM NOW, MISS TRAVIS?
09:06:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD THAT BE -- I WAS WONDERING IF THE
09:06:44AM CHIEF WILL BE ON.
09:06:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HE IS NOT.
09:06:47AM CHIEF IS NOT ON?
09:06:53AM >> NO, HE IS OFF.
09:06:54AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SORRY, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THE CHIEF OF
09:06:58AM STAFF?
09:06:58AM HE IS NOT IN TODAY.
09:06:59AM I THINK -- YEAH, YOU JUST TELL US IF -- ANY OF THEM YOU WANT
09:07:04AM TO PULL, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE STAFF IS HERE THIS AFTERNOON.
09:07:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY MAKER OF THE
09:07:11AM MOTION IS HAPPY WITH THE MEMO OR WANTS TO ACTUALLY HAVE
09:07:14AM STAFF IN ATTENDANCE.
09:07:16AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: PERFECT, THANK YOU.
09:07:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 88.
09:07:20AM WHO IS THE MAKER OF THAT MOTION?
09:07:22AM THAT IS A RESOLUTION.
09:07:23AM RESOLUTION.
09:07:24AM RESOLUTION, RESOLUTION.
09:07:26AM NUMBER 90.
09:07:28AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:07:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:07:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
09:07:32AM NUMBER 91 IS -- COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:07:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:07:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:07:38AM 92.
09:07:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:07:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 93, COUNCILMAN VIERA?
09:07:44AM CONTINUED ON MAY 4?
09:07:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, IT IS ACTUALLY FUNNY -- LET ME TAKE IT
09:07:49AM OFF THE AGENDA.
09:07:50AM NO NEED FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR THAT.
09:07:51AM I KNOW THIS WILL SOUND WEIRD, I DON'T RECALL MAKING THIS
09:07:55AM MOTION AS IT IS THERE.
09:07:56AM SO I HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE.
09:07:58AM LET'S TAKE IT OFF, AND I WILL TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
09:08:01AM MOTION TO REMOVE FROM THE AGENDA.
09:08:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:08:08AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:08:10AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:08:11AM OPPOSED.
09:08:12AM MOTION CARRIES.
09:08:13AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, 94?
09:08:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, PLEASE.
09:08:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, 95?
09:08:22AM 96, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
09:08:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT IS ME -- OH, NO.
09:08:30AM HE.
09:08:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: STAFF WANTS TO MOVE ALL THE PURE DISCUSSIONS
09:08:34AM TO --
09:08:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OCTOBER 25 -- OR MAY 25.
09:08:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD RATHER TAKE THEM ALL OFF THE AGENDA
09:08:42AM COMPLETELY, BUT ANYWAY, I WOULD MOVE TO MOVE IT TO MAY 25
09:08:46AM UNLESS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK OBJECTS.
09:08:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:08:51AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:08:53AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:08:54AM OPPOSED?
09:08:55AM MOTION CARRIES.
09:08:55AM WE WILL HAVE --
09:08:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, GETTING BACK TO NUMBER 96 --
09:09:05AM AND STATED THIS IN THE MEMO.
09:09:06AM THERE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE SET FOR THE MAY 4 MEETING RELATING
09:09:10AM TO PURE AND WASTEWATER REUSE.
09:09:14AM AND THE SUGGESTION IS TO CONTINUE THOSE ITEMS.
09:09:18AM MOVE THEM FROM THE 4th OF MAY AND MOST OF THEM TO BE WITH THE
09:09:23AM WORKSHOP ON MAY 25.
09:09:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
09:09:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:09:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO MOVE.
09:09:32AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:09:33AM OPPOSED.
09:09:34AM MOTION CARRIED.
09:09:35AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THIS NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED?
09:09:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED UNTIL MAY 4.
09:09:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO THAT ON THE 25th.
09:09:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT 4th.
09:09:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TO MAY 4.
09:09:49AM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:09:52AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:09:54AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:09:55AM OPPOSED?
09:09:56AM MOTION CARRIES.
09:09:57AM THE LAST ONE, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:09:59AM OCEA WYNN WILL BE HERE.
09:10:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CONTINUE ON THE 15th, THAT IS FINE.
09:10:10AM >> SECOND.
09:10:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHANGING IT TO THE 15th?
09:10:13AM OKAY, MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:10:15AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:10:17AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:10:18AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:10:21AM MOTION CARRIES.
09:10:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:10:26AM DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT?
09:10:29AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: BRIEFLY OF MORRIS MASSEY FROM THE LEGAL
09:10:33AM DEPARTMENT.
09:10:33AM YOU PULLED 64 FOR UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE IN
09:10:37AM RELATIONSHIP TO THE SETTLEMENT OF THE LAWSUIT ITEM.
09:10:40AM THAT NEEDS TO BE SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSED BEFORE THE
09:10:44AM SETTLEMENT IS APPROVED.
09:10:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
09:10:46AM >> SECOND.
09:10:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:10:49AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:10:51AM FAVOR.
09:10:51AM OPPOSED?
09:10:54AM MR. MASSEY.
09:10:57AM WE ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE MISS JOHNS COME IN WITH THE RESO?
09:11:07AM THAT WAS AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 12, 79, AND 94 WILL ALSO BE
09:11:11AM PULLED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE.
09:11:13AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: 12 IS ON YOUR AGENDA.
09:11:14AM A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE I SUBMITTED.
09:11:18AM WHEN THAT COMES UP, I WILL DISCUSS THE SUBSTANTIVE
09:11:21AM ORDINANCE.
09:11:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 79 AND 94.
09:11:26AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: LET'S LOOK AT THAT REAL QUICK.
09:11:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CONTINUED UNTIL MAY 4.
09:11:32AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THANK YOU.
09:11:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:11:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH REGARD TO A -- THE MEMO
09:11:39AM FROM NICOLE TRAVIS RELATING TO THE -- TO THE RESCHEDULING OF
09:11:43AM THE -- OF THE ITEM NUMBER 99, IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED THAT
09:11:47AM THERE ARE TWO RELATED ITEMS RELATING TO -- AND I WILL SET
09:11:51AM FORTH CM 22-77483 REGARDING NAMING -- NAMING --
09:11:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY, ITEM 99 --
09:12:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 97.
09:12:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 97.
09:12:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
09:12:07AM NUMBER 97.
09:12:09AM THAT WAS CONTINUED TO MAY -- TO --
09:12:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY 4.
09:12:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS CONTINUED TO JUNE OR MAY 4.
09:12:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK CONTINUED IT TO MAY 4.
09:12:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAY 4, THAT IS WHAT THE REQUEST WAS.
09:12:26AM >> THEY ARE REQUESTING TWO OTHER ITEMS --
09:12:29AM [INAUDIBLE]
09:12:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT I BELIEVE I AM REFERRING TO -- NOT
09:12:34AM NUMBER 97 BUT NUMBER 98.
09:12:39AM EAST TAMPA REGIONAL FACILITY?
09:13:00AM [INAUDIBLE]
09:13:04AM >>CLERK: THEY WANT TO MOVE TO MAY 4.
09:13:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL MOVE THAT, EXACTLY.
09:13:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT CLEANS UP THAT ITEM.
09:13:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO MAKE THAT -- I MOVE TO -- MOVE ALL
09:13:14AM OF THEM TO MAY 4.
09:13:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:13:20AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:13:22AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:13:23AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:13:25AM MOTION PASSES.
09:13:26AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:13:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NUMBER 79, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PULL
09:13:30AM BECAUSE THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
09:13:33AM WE DON'T HAVE TO PULL IT, BUT I ACTUALLY STILL HAVE A
09:13:40AM QUESTION ABOUT IT.
09:13:40AM SO I WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE PULLED.
09:13:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, ONE SECOND.
09:13:46AM PLEASE, I DO APOLOGIZE.
09:13:48AM 79, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:13:50AM A MOTION TO APPROVE 79 BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:13:55AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:13:57AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:13:57AM ANY OPPOSITION?
09:14:00AM MOTION PASSES.
09:14:00AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:14:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I PULLED --
09:14:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IS MISS JOHNS GOING TO BE THERE -- I THINK
09:14:09AM THAT IS WHO IS HANDLING THIS.
09:14:11AM I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HER YESTERDAY ABOUT THIS ITEM.
09:14:15AM MISS TRAVIS --
09:14:16AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ATTORNEY JOHNS WILL BE HERE TO DISCUSS
09:14:19AM THAT.
09:14:19AM I KNOW SHE HAD A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION AND WORKING -- SHE
09:14:22AM HEARD YOUR COMMENTS AND WORKING TO WORK TOWARD A CLOSING.
09:14:25AM BUT SHE WILL BE HERE.
09:14:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER CHANGES?
09:14:32AM MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
09:14:34AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:14:35AM >>BILL CARSON: IF I COULD REAL FAST, BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 96.
09:14:43AM I FORGOT TO MENTION I THINK STAFF WANTED TO MOVE SOME OF
09:14:48AM THESE UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION BECAUSE THE VOTES MAY CHANGE.
09:14:51AM UNTIL SOMEBODY IS NOT TELLING THE TRUTH; HOWEVER, THE VOTE
09:14:54AM ENDS UP IN THE ELECTION, THERE AREN'T ENOUGH VOTES TO PASS
09:14:58AM ANYTHING RELATED TO PURE.
09:15:00AM THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE OF THE CAMPAIGN.
09:15:02AM THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT IT.
09:15:04AM I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY WATER EXPERTS TO TRY TO STOP THESE
09:15:07AM CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE THEY ARE HURTING THE FUTURE VIABILITY
09:15:10AM OF WATER REUSE IN OUR REGION WHICH EVENTUALLY WE WILL NEED.
09:15:15AM BUT INCREDIBLE HARM BEING CAUSED NOW BECAUSE ADMINISTRATION
09:15:19AM AND OUR WATER DEPARTMENT IS PUSHING THIS QUICKLY WHEN WE DON'T
09:15:23AM NEED IT.
09:15:23AM I WOULD RATHER THE ADMINISTRATION AND WATER DEPARTMENT WORK
09:15:27AM WITH CITY COUNCIL TO HELP US STOP THIS AND CHANGE THE
09:15:30AM LEGISLATION IN TALLAHASSEE.
09:15:31AM IT IS POSSIBLE TO CHANGE IT.
09:15:32AM WE OUGHT TO CHANGE IT AND OUT TO HAVE A LONGER TERM VIEW
09:15:36AM THAT IS COLLABORATIVE WITH THE PUBLIC INSTEAD OF PUSHING IT
09:15:38AM AGAINST COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.
09:15:40AM THANK YOU.
09:15:41AM ONE LAST THING, CITY COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE RIGHT REGARDLESS
09:15:45AM OF WHAT EVERYBODY SAYS, CITY COUNCIL HAS THE RIGHT TO
09:15:49AM CONTROL OUR OWN AGENDA AND WE CAN DECIDE ON MAY 25 TO TAKE
09:15:52AM ALL THIS OFF THE AGENDA IF WE WANT.
09:15:55AM THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT US TO WASTE TIME AND MONEY
09:15:58AM DISCUSSING THIS ANYMORE.
09:15:59AM SO I WOULD ASK STAFF TO WORK WITH US COLLABORATIVELY INSTEAD
09:16:04AM OF TRYING TO PUSH A NEW ITERATION OF THIS.
09:16:06AM THANK YOU.
09:16:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
09:16:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU.
09:16:10AM ONE MORE ITEM TO CLEAN UP RELATIVE TO 98.
09:16:13AM 98 I BELIEVE IT WAS CONTINUED TO JUNE 15.
09:16:17AM YOUR -- IT WAS YOUR MOTION ORIGINALLY, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:16:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.
09:16:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CONTINUED TO JUNE 15 THIS MORNING.
09:16:27AM A MEMO FROM MISS TRAVIS.
09:16:30AM TWO ITEMS SIMILAR SET FOR APRIL 20 AND THE CONTINUANCE
09:16:33AM REQUEST FOR THOSE ITEMS ALSO FOR JUNE 15.
09:16:37AM TO CLEAR UP THE CALENDAR CMU 22-7483 REGARDING NAMING
09:16:45AM FOR SHIRLEY RISLER AND A HONORARY STREET NAMING FOR
09:16:53AM SALVATORE MARTINEZ YBOR.
09:16:55AM IF THEY CAN BE CONTINUED PER THE ADMINISTRATION'S REQUEST
09:16:58AM FOR JUNE 15, 2023.
09:17:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:17:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE GIST OF IT IS, THEY ARE TRYING TO
09:17:07AM REDEFINE HOW THE NAMING RIGHTS WILL BE DONE.
09:17:11AM ACCORDANCE WITH EVERYBODY.
09:17:15AM AND I AM HOPING THAT THE -- THE COORDINATES THAT WE ARE
09:17:21AM LOOKING -- THE ORDINANCE WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT COUNCIL WILL
09:17:24AM HAVE LEEWAY ALSO WITH THE MAYOR.
09:17:26AM SO IT WAS THE SAME ORIGINAL ORDINANCE THAT MR. MASSEY WAS
09:17:30AM BRINGING FORTH?
09:17:33AM OKAY, I AM FINE WITH THAT.
09:17:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:17:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY, IS THERE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TIMING.
09:17:42AM SINCE WE ARE VOTING ON THAT AND ALSO THE ORDINANCE TO CHANGE
09:17:46AM THE NAMING PROCESS.
09:17:47AM SHOULD WE VOTE ON THAT FIRST?
09:17:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK THEY ARE INDEPENDENT.
09:17:52AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
09:17:55AM I BELIEVE THAT IS THE INTENT OF THE REQUEST, THE ORDINANCE
09:17:58AM SCHEDULED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION TODAY THAT WILL BE
09:18:01AM BROUGHT BACK FOR SECOND READING IN MAY SOME TIME.
09:18:04AM THEN REAL ESTATE WILL GO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RENAMING
09:18:07AM REQUEST BASED ON THE ORDINANCE.
09:18:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: THEY WORK TOGETHER.
09:18:11AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT IS THE IDEA.
09:18:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
09:18:13AM >> SECOND.
09:18:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:18:16AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:18:18AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:18:19AM ANY OPPOSE?
09:18:20AM MOTION DOES PASS.
09:18:21AM >> ANY OTHER CHANGES.
09:18:26AM THERE IS MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA BY COUNCILMAN
09:18:30AM MANISCALCO.
09:18:30AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:18:32AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:18:33AM OPPOSED?
09:18:34AM MOTION DOES PASS.
09:18:35AM LET'S MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM -- AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1.
09:18:40AM FILE NUMBER B 2020-10.
09:18:47AM A 10-MINUTE UPDATE FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
09:18:51AM TRANSPORTATION.
09:18:51AM MR. BHIDE.
09:18:54AM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR.
09:18:56AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:18:57AM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
09:19:00AM THIS IS THE QUARTERLY UPDATE FROM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
09:19:04AM TRANSPORTATION.
09:19:04AM TODAY, IRA CASH WITH FDOT DISTRICT 7.
09:19:11AM I BELIEVE THEY ARE ONLINE.
09:19:14AM PROJECT -- I WOULD LIKE.
09:19:31AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
09:19:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
09:19:34AM >> MY NAME IS ADA CASH.
09:19:37AM IT IS NOT READY.
09:19:44AM >>VIK BHIDE: DO WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION UP?
09:19:53AM I THINK IT WAS SUBMITTED EARLIER THIS WEEK.
09:19:55AM >> YES.
09:19:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU PLEASE ENLARGE IT FOR US.
09:20:21AM >> WE CAN SEE IT.
09:20:38AM JUST NEED TO MAKE IT LARGER.
09:20:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, PLEASE, MAKE IT LARGER.
09:20:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK YOU NEED TO JUST HIT PRESENTATION
09:21:02AM MODE.
09:21:03AM >> CAN YOU SEE THE SCREEN NOW?
09:21:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
09:21:09AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:21:11AM MY NAME IS ADA CASH, AND I AM THE PROJECT MANAGER OF
09:21:16AM INTERSECTION OF BOY SCOUT BOULEVARD AND LOIS AVENUE
09:21:22AM INTERSECTION.
09:21:22AM WE ARE VERY PROUD TO PRESENT THIS INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT.
09:21:28AM THE CONSTRUCTION WAS COMPLETED EXACTLY TWO WEEKS AGO.
09:21:32AM THIS PROJECT IMPROVED THE INTERSECTION CAPACITY BY ADDING A
09:21:43AM EASTBOUND RIGHT-TURN LANE FROM BOY SCOUT BOULEVARD TO
09:21:47AM SOUTHBOUND OF LOIS AVENUE AND THIS IS SHOWN IN THE BLUE --
09:21:52AM WITH THE BLUE SHADE.
09:21:53AM THIS IS BOY SCOUT AND LOIS AVENUE.
09:21:55AM IT ALSO PROVIDES A BICYCLE KEYHOLE LANE THAT I WILL SHOW YOU
09:22:05AM IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
09:22:06AM REPLACES THE EXISTING SIDEWALK TO MEET CURRENT STANDARD.
09:22:11AM AND THESE INTERSECTIONS WAS SELECTED ON ONE OF THE EARLY
09:22:17AM WORKS PROJECT FOR THE WESTSHORE INTERSECTION.
09:22:20AM BASED ON TRAFFIC VOLUMES.
09:22:23AM IT WILL DIVERT TRAFFIC DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE
09:22:30AM WESTSHORE INTERCHANGE.
09:22:31AM THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITION.
09:22:38AM WE SEE FOUR THRU LANES, AND A LEFT-TURN LANE AND LOIS
09:22:44AM AVENUE.
09:22:44AM THIS IS SHOWING THE NEW IMPROVEMENT LOOKING EAST ON BOY
09:22:50AM SCOUT BOULEVARD.
09:22:51AM AND THIS IS SHOWING THE RIGHT-TURN LANE HERE, THE BICYCLE
09:22:57AM KEYHOLE LANE.
09:22:59AM FIVE FEET BICYCLE KEYHOLE LANE FOR BICYCLISTS TO TRAVEL
09:23:06AM SAFELY THROUGH THE INTERSECTION AND ANOTHER VIEW ON THE
09:23:09AM RIGHT SIDE.
09:23:09AM THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW.
09:23:14AM THIS IS THE NEW SIDEWALK MEETING CURRENT STANDARDS.
09:23:20AM AND THIS IS OUR PRESENTATION FOR THE PROJECT.
09:23:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:23:31AM ANY QUESTIONS?
09:23:33AM ANY QUESTIONS?
09:23:35AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:23:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THAT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION?
09:23:39AM >> YES, SIR.
09:23:39AM SHORT AND SWEET.
09:23:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS ASKED BY CONSTITUENTS TO PASS ON A
09:23:45AM COUPLE OF THINGS TO VIK AND FDOT.
09:23:48AM NUMBER ONE IS, IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET FROM MacDILL AIR
09:23:53AM FORCE BASE UP TO THE SELMON OR EVEN UP TO BAY TO BAY.
09:23:59AM SO THEY HAVE ASKED, IS IT POSSIBLE TO TIME THE
09:24:03AM LIGHTS?
09:24:03AM IN SOME WAYS, IT IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE BECAUSE HIGH-POWERED
09:24:08AM PEOPLE FROM MacDILL ARE STUCK IN TRAFFIC THERE.
09:24:11AM ONE REQUEST.
09:24:11AM SECOND IS THAT -- AND VIK KNOWS THIS, WE HAVE ASKED -- WE
09:24:16AM HAVE ASKED VIK TO WORK WITH YOU ALL AND THE COUNTY AND
09:24:20AM OTHERS TO TRY TO COORDINATE PROJECTS.
09:24:22AM THERE IS -- THERE ARE MULTIPLE ROADS BEING BLOCKED IN THE
09:24:26AM SOUTH OF GANDY AREA AT THE SAME TIME.
09:24:28AM AND PEOPLE CAN'T GET TO THEIR HOUSES AND ANYTHING YOU CAN TO
09:24:31AM DO HELP BETTER COORDINATE WITH -- I AM NOT BLAMING ON ANY
09:24:36AM ONE ENTITY, BUT MORE THAT ALL THE GROUPS WITH COORDINATE TO
09:24:40AM TIME THE SHUTDOWN OF ROADS THE BETTER BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE
09:24:43AM VERY FRUSTRATED OF BEING SHUT DOWN FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES AND
09:24:48AM THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT SHUTDOWNS ARE HAPPENING.
09:24:50AM ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
09:24:54AM THANK YOU.
09:24:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:24:58AM >>VIK BHIDE: WE WILL WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT FDOT ON BOTH.
09:25:02AM I KNOW THAT ON DALE MABRY SPECIFICALLY, WE REVIEWED THE
09:25:08AM TIMING SEVERAL TIMES.
09:25:09AM AND FDOT HAS THEIR CONSULTANTS.
09:25:19AM AS FAR AS PROJECTS SOUTH OF GANDY, WE ARE AWARE OF THE
09:25:23AM COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK TO MAKE SURE
09:25:25AM THAT OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMITS ARE SEPARATED IN TIME FOR THE
09:25:30AM -- IT IS PRETTY BROAD TIME WINDOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE
09:25:35AM APPROPRIATE DIGITAL TOOLS TO GIVE THEM A MUCH SHORTER WINDOW
09:25:39AM TO GET THEIR JOB DONE.
09:25:40AM WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.
09:25:42AM AND THIS PROCUREMENT WILL COME UP IN FRONT OF COUNCIL THAT
09:25:46AM WILL ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE OF MULTIPLE WORK ZONES ON A
09:25:50AM SINGLE ROADWAY WITHIN SHORT DISTANCES.
09:25:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
09:25:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
09:25:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
09:25:58AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
09:26:00AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, FDOT.
09:26:02AM >> THANK YOU.
09:26:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.
09:26:06AM WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:26:08AM IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA,
09:26:10AM PLEASE COME UP TO THE LECTERN.
09:26:12AM YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND SAY YOUR NAME.
09:26:15AM IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:26:18AM YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
09:26:20AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, WHEN YOU SEE ME, IT IS ABOUT
09:26:24AM VETERANS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
09:26:25AM I AM ELLSWORTH WILLIAM, PRESIDENT OF VETERANS.
09:26:31AM WE COLLOCATED WITH POST 5.
09:26:35AM I COME TO YOU TODAY -- I COULDN'T DO IT LAST WEEK BECAUSE
09:26:38AM APRIL STARTED ON SATURDAY.
09:26:40AM APRIL IS CONSIDERED SEXUAL ASSAULT AND AWARENESS MONTH.
09:26:43AM THAT IS WHAT I'M HERE TO MAKE SURE THE COUNCIL KNOWS AND ARE
09:26:47AM AWARE OF IT.
09:26:48AM SEXUAL ASSAULT IN THE MILITARY.
09:26:50AM IT CONTINUES TO INCREASE IN THE MILITARY.
09:26:51AM NOT ONLY INCREASE 16% IN ACTIVE DUTY AND MacDILL AIR FORCE
09:26:57AM BASE DOWN THE STREET AND IN THE ACADEMIES.
09:26:59AM AND HERE -- NOT ONLY DO WE DEAL WITH THE ACTIVE DUTY BUT
09:27:06AM AFTEREFFECTS.
09:27:07AM IF YOU ARE DEALING WITH SOMEONE WHO SUFFERED FROM SEXUAL
09:27:10AM TRAUMA.
09:27:10AM WOMEN VETERAN HAVE TWICE THE RATE OF SUICIDE.
09:27:15AM AND THE REASON WHY IS MILITARY SEXUAL ASSAULT.
09:27:18AM I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION TO BE AWARE OF
09:27:21AM SEXUAL ASSAULT AWARENESS MONTH.
09:27:24AM AND INFORMATION TO COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:27:28AM STARTING MONDAY, WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING A STREAMING
09:27:32AM TO ADDRESS MILITARY SEXUAL TRAUMA FOR THE WHOLE MONTH OF
09:27:35AM APRIL.
09:27:35AM A FOLLOW-UP, AWARENESS IS THE DOING PART.
09:27:38AM FOLLOW-UP WITH THE VETERANS COUNCIL.
09:27:40AM HAVE A SECOND ANNUAL MILITARY SEXUAL TRAUMA CONFERENCE ON
09:27:44AM THE 9th AND 10th OF JUNE.
09:27:46AM FINALLY, I WANT TO MENTION VERY IMPORTANT FOR US AS A COUNTY
09:27:50AM AND AS A CITY.
09:27:50AM FLORIDA HAS THE SECOND LARGEST WOMEN VETERAN POPULATION.
09:27:54AM THE RESOURCES DOESN'T MATCH IT.
09:27:56AM AND YOU CAN ONLY SIT AND ASSUME THAT IF THE ARMY -- THE
09:28:01AM MILITARY HAS A PROBLEM WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT, THEN THE CITY
09:28:03AM WILL HAVE ONE AS WELL.
09:28:04AM AND WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF IT AND MAYBE IN THE FUTURE FIND
09:28:07AM SOME WAY TO HELP.
09:28:08AM TO TAKE THE PAIN AND SUFFERING FROM THE FAMILIES WHO ARE
09:28:12AM SUFFERED FROM THE MILITARY SEXUAL ASSAULT.
09:28:15AM THAT'S ALL.
09:28:16AM I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
09:28:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:28:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO THANK ELLSWORTH FOR COMING UP HERE.
09:28:24AM A GREAT GUY AND I APPRECIATE YOU.
09:28:27AM THE COUNTY COMMISSION HONORED YOU, AND I WAS THERE FOR THE
09:28:31AM AMAZING WORK.
09:28:32AM IF YOU WANT TO CALL ME AFTER THIS, AND I AM GLAD TO SET
09:28:35AM SOMETHING UP.
09:28:35AM TO GO IN -- IF YOU WANT TO DO LIKE A -- YOU KNOW, SOMETHING
09:28:40AM LIVE ON FACEBOOK OR WHATEVER ON THIS TOPIC.
09:28:42AM WE MET BEFORE ON THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC.
09:28:44AM FOR THOSE OF YOU ALL THAT DON'T KNOW, ELLSWORTH TOOK UP THE
09:28:52AM CAUSE OF NOT JUST VETERANS BUT ALL VETERANS, TAKE UP THE
09:28:56AM CAUSE OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS IGNORED DURING JIM CROW.
09:29:00AM TAKE UP THE CAUSE OF WOMEN ASSAULTED AND CONTINUE TO BE
09:29:02AM ASSAULTED IN THE MILITARY.
09:29:03AM YOU TAKE UP THE CAUSE OF LGBTQ VETERANS, ANYBODY THAT
09:29:08AM SERVES.
09:29:09AM AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
09:29:11AM OUR GREAT GUY AND GOD BLESS YOU.
09:29:13AM LET'S CONNECT AFTER THIS.
09:29:15AM >> THANK YOU.
09:29:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:29:17AM YES, MA'AM.
09:29:18AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:29:20AM >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS JOYCE CHISLER.
09:29:27AM I HAVE BEEN IN MY RESIDENCE SINCE 1981, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF
09:29:33AM COMPLAINTS.
09:29:33AM A LOT OF ACTIVITY.
09:29:40AM DRUG ACTIVITY.
09:29:41AM HALFWAY UP THE STREET.
09:29:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE STREET, 3201?
09:29:47AM >> 3201.
09:29:49AM A LOT OF COMPLAINTS MADE AGAINST THE HOUSE 48th STREET AND
09:29:56AM 23rd AVENUE.
09:29:57AM 23rd AVENUE IS A STOP SIGN.
09:29:59AM 3201, THEY HAD A LOT OF ACTIVITY.
09:30:03AM A LOT OF COPS COME OVER TO THE HOUSE.
09:30:06AM THEIR BLOCKING THE STOP SIGN.
09:30:08AM I HAVE BEEN CALLING THE SECURITY TO COME OUT TO SEE WHAT IS
09:30:17AM GOING ON WITH THE CAR.
09:30:18AM I ASKED THEM MANY TIMES TO MOVE THE CAR.
09:30:21AM THEY DO CAR WASH.
09:30:23AM THEY WASH CARS ON 48th STREET.
09:30:26AM WE DON'T -- THEY DON'T HAVE NO LICENSE.
09:30:30AM THEY GOT A CITATION FROM THE CITY ABOUT THAT.
09:30:34AM BUT THEY ARE STILL DOING IT.
09:30:35AM AND PEOPLE LIKE ME PAY OUR PROPERTY TAX EVERY YEAR.
09:30:40AM WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO LIVE LIKE THAT.
09:30:43AM WE WANT THE CONDITION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT PEOPLE LIKE
09:30:48AM THAT, THEY AIN'T GOING TO LET THAT BE.
09:30:50AM ALSO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THEM.
09:30:53AM AND HE SEE ALL OF THAT GOING ON.
09:30:56AM HE TOLD ME IF YOU WANT TO COME DOWN 23rd AVENUE AND THE CAR
09:31:04AM GO THE OTHER WAY.
09:31:05AM I SAY THAT IS NOT RIGHT.
09:31:06AM SO I WISH YOU CAN REACH OUT AND TRY TO HELP THIS
09:31:11AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:31:12AM I WENT THROUGH THE MOBILITY.
09:31:15AM I TALKED TO SOMEONE.
09:31:18AM I TRIED TO GET A NO PARKING SIGN.
09:31:20AM THEY SAY THEY CAN'T GIVE NO -- NO PARKING SIGN.
09:31:23AM ALSO.
09:31:25AM I ASKED FOR A THREE-WAY STOP SIGN.
09:31:28AM CARS PASSING.
09:31:29AM 60, 70 MILES.
09:31:33AM WE ARE NOT GETTING NOWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:31:36AM I WANTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO UPGRADE.
09:31:38AM ALSO I CALLED THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, AND I TALKED TO A LADY, AND
09:31:42AM SHE SAID SHE IS GOING TO SEE WHAT SHE CAN DO.
09:31:44AM BUT I SAY TO Y'ALL, PLEASE, PLEASE HELP THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:31:48AM 48th STREET AND 23rd AVENUE.
09:31:52AM THANK YOU.
09:31:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:31:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:31:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: C.T., CAN YOU COME OUT -- I DIDN'T SEE YOU
09:32:01AM KELLY.
09:32:01AM IF WE GET HER INFORMATION, WE CAN GET TO THAT CODE
09:32:05AM ENFORCEMENT.
09:32:05AM I KNOW WHAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT, AND SHE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
09:32:08AM YOU KNOW, SHE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
09:32:10AM WE NEED TO GET SOME PEOPLE OVER THERE TO KIND OF CLEAN THAT
09:32:13AM UP BECAUSE THAT IS BEEN FOR YEARS AND GONE THROUGH A LITTLE
09:32:16AM BIT.
09:32:16AM MAYBE WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE AGGRESSIVE IN THAT AREA
09:32:20AM BECAUSE SHE IS TOTALLY CORRECT.
09:32:21AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:32:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEXT, PLEASE.
09:32:24AM >> JUST CAME UP.
09:32:28AM I SEE WE ONLY GET THREE MINUTES, BUT JUST BEEP BECAUSE WE
09:32:33AM -- YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I APPRECIATE THE
09:32:37AM WORK THAT YOU ALL DO.
09:32:39AM A LOT OF GENERATIONAL GAP SO HARD TO FILL THEM IN.
09:32:43AM THIS YOUNG GENERATION DOING THEIR OWN THING.
09:32:47AM THEY ARE DOING IT.
09:32:48AM SHE IS OLDER.
09:32:49AM SO THEY ARE STRESSING HER OUT.
09:32:51AM SHE HAS BEEN THERE SINCE '81 AND NO RESPECT FOR THE ELDERLY.
09:32:56AM THAT IS WHY THE COUNTRY IS THE WAY IT IS.
09:32:58AM I AM NOT GOING TO GET INTO THAT.
09:32:59AM I WILL MANAGE THAT SHORT THOUGH.
09:33:01AM I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING IF YOU CAN GIVE
09:33:04AM HER SOME OF WHAT -- TO KIND OF GET BECAUSE A LOT OF THE
09:33:10AM OLDER PEOPLE THAT USED TO DO THINGS LIKE -- MY MOTHER -- A
09:33:15AM LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONE, DEAD OR WHATEVER.
09:33:17AM YOU KNOW, RETIRED.
09:33:18AM THAT'S WHY TO SPEAK ON HER BEHALF, BECAUSE SHE HAS HIGH
09:33:23AM BLOOD PRESSURE.
09:33:24AM THEY WASH CARS.
09:33:26AM DISRESPECTFUL MUSIC AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
09:33:29AM WITH ME -- A LOT OF STUFF DOESN'T BOTHER ME BECAUSE I WAS
09:33:33AM ONCE YOUNG.
09:33:34AM WITH HER, I SPEAK ON HER BEHALF.
09:33:36AM SHE WANTS SOMETHING DONE.
09:33:37AM THAT IS ALL -- I CAME TO SPEAK ON HER BEHALF ON 48th STREET
09:33:41AM AND 23rd.
09:33:42AM YOU KNOW IT IS JUST -- AND THEY RENT.
09:33:45AM YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU RENT, THEY CAN PRETTY MUCH TEAR UP.
09:33:49AM WHEN THEY LEAVE -- BUT SHE IS A HOMEOWNER.
09:33:52AM ALL TO SAY.
09:33:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE YOU LEAVE.
09:33:56AM >> MIKO ROBERTS.
09:33:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:34:00AM >> APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
09:34:02AM >> HELLO, TAYLOR COOK.
09:34:06AM I AM A MEMBER OF TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY ACTION COMMITTEE, AND I
09:34:10AM AM IN DISTRICT 5.
09:34:11AM RECENTLY CHANGED.
09:34:12AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF INDEPENDENT COUNSEL, PER USUAL.
09:34:16AM I KNOW TODAY IS THE SECOND READING.
09:34:17AM SAME THING I ALWAYS SAY.
09:34:20AM IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE MORE TRANSPARENCY WITH
09:34:23AM THE POLICE.
09:34:24AM WE RECENTLY HAD A CASE WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE OF
09:34:29AM POLICE BRUTALITY WHERE SOMEONE CAME TO OUR GROUP AND ASKED
09:34:31AM FOR US TO HELP GET ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEM.
09:34:35AM AND THE CRB HAS ACTUALLY BEEN GIVING US A HARD TIME TRYING
09:34:39AM TO GET ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT PERSON.
09:34:41AM AND I THINK IT IS KIND OF DISGUSTING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE
09:34:46AM TRYING TO USE THE CRB FOR ITS PURPOSES, AND ITS KIND OF LIKE
09:34:52AM A BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CRB AND THE
09:34:57AM POLICE, WHO DON'T WANT US TO INVESTIGATE THE CASE.
09:35:00AM SO I JUST THINK THAT THERE IS -- THERE IS A REALLY BIG NEED
09:35:03AM FOR ANY TRANSPARENCY.
09:35:04AM ANY ACCOUNTABILITY THAT WE CAN GET.
09:35:07AM I ALSO WANTED TO RAISE AWARENESS AROUND THE NOW TAMPA FIVE.
09:35:13AM FOUR PROTESTERS ARRESTED MARCH 6 AT USF.
09:35:17AM AND I DO THINK THIS IS A CITY MATTER.
09:35:20AM IF YOU WATCH THE VIDEOS THAT ARE ALL ONLINE -- I WAS THERE
09:35:24AM AS WELL.
09:35:25AM THE BRUTALITY IS HORRIBLE -- OR WAS HORRIBLE.
09:35:28AM I HAVE NIGHTMARES.
09:35:29AM IT HAS BEEN A MONTH.
09:35:30AM AND I AM STILL HAVING NIGHTMARES ABOUT THAT DAY.
09:35:33AM IT WAS QUITE ATROCIOUS.
09:35:35AM BUT NOW IT IS TAMPA FIVE, BECAUSE THE SCHOOL IS TRYING TO
09:35:40AM RETROACTIVELY CHARGE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE.
09:35:44AM AND IT IS JUST DISGUSTING AND I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO KNOW
09:35:48AM ABOUT IT.
09:35:48AM AND THE CITY NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT AND SHOW
09:35:53AM THAT USF CAN'T BRUTALIZE PROTESTERS OR STUDENTS BECAUSE IT
09:35:59AM IS OUR RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH.
09:36:00AM THANK YOU.
09:36:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:36:02AM NEXT, PLEASE.
09:36:04AM >> HI, MY NAME IS FILIP FREUND, AND I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN
09:36:09AM FAVOR OF GRANTING THE CRB INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
09:36:12AM BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE TPD HAS A LONG HISTORY OF MISCONDUCT
09:36:18AM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
09:36:19AM AND THE CRB IS THE BOARD RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING THAT
09:36:24AM MISCONDUCT.
09:36:24AM SO I THINK GRANTING THAT BOARD MORE POWER IN ORDER TO BETTER
09:36:30AM REVIEW THE MISCONDUCT OF THE POLICE WOULD HELP BOLSTER
09:36:36AM SAFETY THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND HELP THE COMMUNITY FEEL MORE
09:36:39AM SAFE.
09:36:39AM AND LIKE TAYLOR BEFORE ME MENTIONED, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH
09:36:45AM THE CRB TRYING TO HELP SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN ASSAULTED
09:36:49AM BY TPD.
09:36:50AM AND IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT.
09:36:52AM AND PART OF THAT IS DUE TO THE ISSUES WE HAD WITH THE CITY
09:36:56AM LAWYER.
09:36:58AM THANK YOU.
09:36:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:37:00AM >> ON A COMPLETELY UNRELATED NOTE.
09:37:04AM JASON MARLOW TO SPEAK OF AGENDA ITEM 84.
09:37:08AM I WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE NEVER-ENDING STORY OF THE
09:37:14AM CONSTRUCTION GOING ON MY STREET AND THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
09:37:17AM RESIDENTS, THAT THERE IS A CONTEMPLATION OF GIVING THEM $105
09:37:22AM MILLION MORE DOLLARS AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE A GREAT JOB WITH
09:37:26AM THE NUMBER -- IS THAT CHANGE ORDER NUMBER 84?
09:37:29AM JUST --
09:37:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 105,000.
09:37:33AM >> REMOVE SOME ZEROES.
09:37:36AM A LITTLE BIT LESS.
09:37:37AM SUFFICE TO SAY, A COMPANY THAT IS NOT CONSIDERATE.
09:37:41AM THEY MOVED MY MAILBOX THAT THE MAILPERSON HAS TO HOP OUT OF
09:37:46AM HER TRUCK TO PUT THE MAIL IN.
09:37:47AM CONSISTENT LACK OF CONSIDERATION FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.
09:37:52AM WE HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE OLDER AND HARD TO GET IN AND OUT
09:37:56AM OF THEIR CAR.
09:37:57AM WE WANT TO HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEADLINES.
09:37:59AM I WAS TOLD MY STREET WOULD BE PAVED ENDS OF MARCH.
09:38:02AM APRIL 5.
09:38:03AM APRIL 10.
09:38:04AM SOON APRIL 17 AND NEXT 2024.
09:38:09AM WANT TO HOLD THE COMPANIES THAT WE ARE GIVING BIG PUBLIC
09:38:13AM MONEY ACCOUNTABLE.
09:38:15AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:38:16AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:38:17AM MY NAME IS DAVID SEMINOFF.
09:38:21AM I AM A VOLUNTEER ABOUT THE ACLU, AND I HAVE BEEN A TAMPANIA
09:38:26AM -- I CAN'T DO THE MATH -- CLOSE TO 30 YEARS.
09:38:28AM MY COLLEAGUE WAS AT THE LAST MEETING SAYING WHY THE ACLU
09:38:35AM THINKS IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE CRB HAS INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
09:38:40AM I WILL GIVE YOU THREE BULLET POINTS.
09:38:42AM NUMBER ONE, THIS IS A COMMON SENSE REQUEST.
09:38:45AM NOT ONLY REDUCE THE RISK OF BIAS BUT ALSO REDUCES THE
09:38:54AM APPEARANCE OF BIAS
09:38:57AM NUMBER TWO, THAT PEOPLE IN TAMPA WANTED THIS.
09:39:00AM AN INDEPENDENT POLL, 70% OF THE PEOPLE SURVEYED WERE IN
09:39:04AM FAVOR OF INDEPENDENT COUNCIL FOR THE CRB.
09:39:07AM A POLL WE COMMISSIONED AND DONE INDEPENDENTLY.
09:39:10AM AND NUMBER THREE IS THAT THIS IS -- THIS HAS BEEN DONE AT
09:39:15AM CITIES AND COUNTIES THROUGHOUT FLORIDA FOR TIME -- FOR A
09:39:19AM LONG TIME NOW AND NO REPORTS THAT HAD AFFECTED THE BUDGET.
09:39:25AM NO REPORTS THIS AFFECTED POLICE ABILITY TO DO THEIR WORK
09:39:29AM OR MORALE.
09:39:30AM ONCE AGAIN SOMETHING COMMON SENSE.
09:39:32AM SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WANT.
09:39:33AM AND SOMETHING THAT WOULD NOT CAUSE ANY PROBLEMS.
09:39:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:39:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:39:38AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:39:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: KELLY, CAN YOU ASK THE FOLKS OUTSIDE TO --
09:39:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEXT, PLEASE.
09:39:51AM >> THANK YOU, HONORABLE REPRESENTATIVE.
09:39:54AM I AM A FOLLOWER OF JESUS CHRIST.
09:39:56AM ABORTION HAS DIVIDED OUR SOCIETY LIKE FEW OTHER TOPICS IN
09:40:01AM RECENT HISTORY.
09:40:01AM THE BIBLE PLACES THE HIGHEST IMPORTANCE ON HUMAN LIFE.
09:40:04AM GOD TREATS US AS SACRED AND VALUABLE AND WHY HE CREATED US IN
09:40:12AM HIS OWN IMAGE.
09:40:14AM BIBLE SAYS A UNBORN BABY AS HUMAN.
09:40:18AM YOU MAKE ALL THE DELICATE PARTS OF MY BODY AND TOGETHER IN
09:40:22AM MY MOTHER'S WOMB.
09:40:24AM THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME SO WONDERFULLY COMPLEX.
09:40:27AM YOUR WORKMANSHIP IS MARVELOUS.
09:40:29AM YOU WATCHED ME IN UTTER SECLUSION WEAVED TOGETHER IN
09:40:36AM THE WOMB.
09:40:37AM SOME PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABORTION IS WRONG BECAUSE THEY SEE
09:40:40AM IT A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM.
09:40:42AM HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH ONE PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER.
09:40:45AM MURDER.
09:40:45AM GOD CREATED ALL LIFE AND HE SUSTAINS IT.
09:40:49AM GIVEN EACH OF US THE BREATH OF LIFE AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY
09:40:53AM TO PROTECT WHAT IS GIVEN TO THE FATHER IN HEAVEN.
09:40:56AM THE QUESTION OF WHETHER ABORTION IS RIGHT OR WRONG IS SO
09:41:01AM SIGNIFICANT.
09:41:02AM NO ONE BELIEVES TO STEAL FROM GOD.
09:41:05AM IN GOD'S GREAT LOVE HE GIVES LIFE THAT BEARS HIS IMAGE.
09:41:09AM DETERMINING IF ABORTION IS GOOD FOR BAD GOES TO THE QUESTION
09:41:13AM IF PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO TERMINATE THE LIFE OF A CHILD.
09:41:16AM THE REAL ISSUE IF PEOPLE WILL LIVE ACCORDING TO WORLDLY
09:41:20AM STANDARDS THAT OPPOSE GOD.
09:41:21AM PLEASE GET RID OF THIS MODERN-DAY HOLOCAUST.
09:41:25AM INSTEAD OF KILLING THESE BABIES, LET'S HELP THEM.
09:41:28AM GOD BLESS, YOU GUYS.
09:41:30AM THANK YOU.
09:41:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:41:32AM >> OKAY.
09:41:35AM HELLO, MY NAME IS NATE.
09:41:39AM I AM A MEMBER OF TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY ACTION COMMITTEE.
09:41:42AM I LIVE IN TOWN AND COUNTRY.
09:41:43AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF INDEPENDENT COUNSEL FOR THE
09:41:47AM CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
09:41:48AM THE SECOND HEARING DAY.
09:41:50AM I AM GOING TO REPEAT MANY OF THE POINTS I HAVE ALREADY SAID.
09:41:55AM WITH THE CRB BEING A REVIEW BOARD FOR TPD, A DEPARTMENT OF
09:42:01AM THE CITY.
09:42:01AM I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO BE
09:42:03AM INDEPENDENT FOR THEM TO CARRY OUT THEIR WORK PROPERLY.
09:42:06AM YOU KNOW IF IT IS THE SAME ATTORNEY THAT IS PRESENTING THE
09:42:10AM CITY AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING TPD, HOW ARE THEY
09:42:13AM GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT OBJECTIVE, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVE
09:42:19AM REVIEW OF THE MISCONDUCT.
09:42:21AM WE SAW IT IN PRACTICE.
09:42:22AM WE SAW HOW THE CITY'S ATTORNEY WAS TRYING TO SAY, OH,
09:42:27AM NOTHING YOU CAN DO.
09:42:28AM NO WAY YOU CAN BRING UP A CASE TO THE CRB IN THIS WAY OR
09:42:32AM THAT WAY AND TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULTY, WHICH YOU
09:42:35AM KNOW, WHERE THE ATTORNEYS INTERESTS LIE IF THEY HAVE A -- IF
09:42:42AM THEY ARE REPRESENTING MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.
09:42:43AM AND THE -- THE HISTORY THAT TPD HAS SHOWN US OVER AND OVER
09:42:50AM AGAIN IS MORE -- JUST GIVES US MORE PROOF TO THE NEED FOR AN
09:42:54AM INDEPENDENT REVIEW BOARD TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW CASES.
09:42:57AM ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, TODAY, FOR EXAMPLE.
09:43:03AM ON THE AGENDA WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE FIVE FORD F-150s
09:43:10AM GOING TO TPD AND MANY OTHER THINGS THAT THEY REALLY DON'T
09:43:14AM NEED WHEN WE STILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT STILL
09:43:18AM ASKING FOR FIRE TRUCKS.
09:43:19AM STILL ASKING FOR MORE, YOU KNOW, STATIONS AROUND THE CITY
09:43:24AM FOR THEM TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, ADEQUATE RESPONSE TIMES.
09:43:27AM SO I THINK THERE WAS A FAULT IN THE BUDGET INITIALLY THAT
09:43:32AM STILL -- WE CAN -- THAT STILL NEEDS TO BE WORKED ON WITH THE
09:43:37AM NEXT BUDGET.
09:43:37AM WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR THINGS PEOPLE ACTUALLY NEED AND NOT
09:43:42AM FOR THE POLICE.
09:43:43AM THANK YOU.
09:43:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:43:49AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:43:53AM ELIAS COLON, MINISTER OF THE GOSPEL AND HEAD OF
09:44:00AM MINISTRY AT BAPTIST CHURCH.
09:44:01AM I'M HERE TODAY TO REMIND YOU WHAT IS TAKING PLACE IT OUR
09:44:05AM COMMUNITY, TO BE A VOICE FOR THE VOICELESS, DEFEND THOSE WHO
09:44:09AM CAN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES.
09:44:11AM TO REMIND YOU THAT GOD CALLS YOU TO ESTABLISH AN EQUAL
09:44:15AM WEIGHT AND MEASURE, JUSTICE
09:44:17AM SO IN OUR DISCUSSION OF ABORTION, HERE IS MY RESPONSE.
09:44:21AM I AM TIRED OF SEEING MY BLACK BROTHERS AND SISTERS BEING
09:44:26AM MURDERED IN THE WOMB.
09:44:27AM I AM TIRED OF SEEING MY WHITE BROTHERS AND SISTERS MURDERED
09:44:31AM IN THE WOMB.
09:44:33AM TIRED OF SEEING MY HISPANIC BROTHERS AND SISTERS MURDERED IN
09:44:37AM THE WOMB.
09:44:39AM MY QUESTION TO YOU, ARE YOU WILLING TO TAKE A STAND AGAINST
09:44:42AM THIS MODERN HOLOCAUST OR TAKE A PAYCHECK JUST LIKE JUDAS.
09:44:47AM THAT, MY FRIEND, IS CALLED A COWARD.
09:44:50AM HUMAN BEINGS IN THE WOMB DESERVE EQUAL RIGHTS LIKE US.
09:44:55AM WHY IS THAT?
09:44:56AM BECAUSE THEY ARE CREATED IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.
09:44:58AM IT IS CONSISTENT WITH SCIENCE THAT THEY ARE HUMAN FROM
09:45:02AM CONCEPTION IS IRREFUTABLE.
09:45:04AM EVERY SCIENCE BOOK YOU GO TO.
09:45:06AM HUMAN FROM CONCEPTION.
09:45:08AM WE WILL NOT STOP FIGHTING THE NAME OF THE LORD AS A CHURCH
09:45:12AM AGAINST THIS MASS SLAUGHTER OF CHILDREN.
09:45:14AM SO I URGE YOU AS MANY OTHERS HAVE BEFORE TO REPENT WITH US.
09:45:17AM TURN AWAY FROM YOUR WICKED WAYS.
09:45:20AM TURN TO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION.
09:45:23AM HELP THESE MOTHERS AND FATHERS HELP THEM FINANCIALLY.
09:45:26AM HEALTH-WISE.
09:45:27AM THIS IS PROMISE FROM OUR KING OF KINGS, LORD OF LORDS.
09:45:31AM HE HAS NEVER BROKEN HIS PROMISE.
09:45:34AM WE HAVE.
09:45:34AM HE WILL PROVIDE THAT NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH HIM WHO
09:45:38AM GIVES US STRENGTH BUT IF YOU AND I CONTINUE IN THIS PATH OF
09:45:45AM UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, GOD WILL NOT HEAR OUR PRAYERS, FOR THERE IS
09:45:48AM BLOOD ON OUR HANDS.
09:45:49AM PROVERBS 24, VERSE 11, RESCUE THOSE TAKEN AWAY FROM DEATH.
09:45:55AM HOLD BACK THOSE THAT ARE STUMBLING WITH SLAUGHTER.
09:45:58AM IF YOU KNEW ABOUT IT AND DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
09:46:02AM THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR YOUR TIME.
09:46:05AM >> AMEN.
09:46:11AM ALL RIGHT.
09:46:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:46:13AM MY NAME IS NORENE COPELAND MILLER.
09:46:17AM AND I LIVE AT 1911 EAST CHELSEA.
09:46:20AM I'M HERE THIS MORNING -- I WAS LOOKING ON THE AGENDA.
09:46:25AM AND I WAS SEEING A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA.
09:46:28AM AND A LOT OF DOLLARS ARE BEING MOVED AROUND.
09:46:32AM AND I DO KNOW THAT WITH MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, THAT THAT'S
09:46:37AM BEING CONTINUED.
09:46:37AM BUT I FEEL THAT I NEEDED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO TALK
09:46:41AM ABOUT MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:46:44AM I AM VERY GRATEFUL THAT THE NEWS MEDIA HAVE BROUGHT TO THE
09:46:49AM FOREFRONT.
09:46:50AM HUNDRED OF CALLS FROM COMMUNITY PEOPLE THAT HAD NO IDEA I
09:46:54AM WAS GOING ON, BUT THANK GOD THAT THE DIFFERENT CHANNELS,
09:46:57AM NEWS MEDIA CHANNELS IN THIS CITY HAVE PUT ON AND FOUND IT
09:47:01AM NEWSWORTHY TO TALK ABOUT THE INJUSTICE GOING ON WITH
09:47:06AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:47:07AM I WAS LISTENING TO THE GENTLEMAN TALKING ABOUT THE MILITARY
09:47:12AM AND THE VETERANS.
09:47:12AM 800 BLACK VETERANS IN THAT CEMETERY.
09:47:16AM THAT CEMETERY HAS A MONUMENT THAT HONORS THE BLACK MILITARY
09:47:20AM FOR THEIR SERVICE TO THIS COUNTRY.
09:47:22AM AND I AM HOPING THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
09:47:25AM I WAS WATCHING THE NEWS.
09:47:26AM I SEE THAT -- THAT THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE GOING ON WITH THE
09:47:29AM NEW OWNER.
09:47:32AM BUT SOMETHING ABOUT THEY ARE GOING TO DO A PROPERTY
09:47:34AM APPRAISAL FOR THE CEMETERY ABOUT THE VALUE.
09:47:37AM AND I WAS LIKE, WOW, HOW -- YOU KNOW, I AM SURE YOU CAN DO
09:47:41AM WHATEVER -- YOU NEED TO DO IT.
09:47:43AM BUT HOW DO YOU DO AN APPRAISAL FOR BLACK CEMETERY TO FIND OUT
09:47:52AM THE VALUE?
09:47:52AM THAT WAS QUITE INTERESTING WHEN WE KNOW THE CAPACITY HAS
09:47:55AM BEEN FULL FOR A LONG TIME.
09:47:58AM AND THERE IS NOWHERE REALLY FOR A DEVELOPER OR ANYONE ELSE
09:48:01AM TO BUILD ON.
09:48:02AM BUT TO SPEND MONEY TO DO AN APPRAISAL ON A CEMETERY, THAT IS
09:48:07AM INTERESTING.
09:48:07AM I JUST HOPE THAT THIS CITY, THE CITY OF TAMPA, DO WHAT IS
09:48:12AM RIGHT BY THAT HISTORICAL BLACK CEMETERY.
09:48:15AM IT IS 104 YEARS OLD.
09:48:17AM A LOT OF UNMARKED GRAVES IN THERE.
09:48:19AM A LOT OF GRAVES THAT ARE MARKED.
09:48:21AM I HAVE A MEMBER OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS IN THERE.
09:48:24AM AND I CAN'T SAY THAT ENOUGH.
09:48:25AM AND RIGHT NOW, SINCE THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON THE LAST TWO
09:48:30AM MONTHS, ALMOST THREE MONTHS, IT IS DRAINING, MENTALLY,
09:48:35AM PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY FOR ME AND I AM SURE FOR MANY
09:48:38AM EARS.
09:48:38AM AND A LOT OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY IS OUTRAGED BY WHAT HAS
09:48:42AM HAPPENED TO OUR HISTORICAL CEMETERY ON THE CORNER OF 22nd
09:48:46AM AND MLK.
09:48:47AM I AM A WOMAN OF MY WORD AND I SHARED WITH YOU I WILL BE
09:48:51AM COMING TO CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS IN SPITE OF THE CHALLENGES I
09:48:54AM HAVE.
09:48:54AM BUT GUESS WHAT, I'M HERE.
09:48:56AM AND I AM HOPING THAT YOU ALL WILL DO THE RIGHT THING -- I
09:48:59AM KNOW YOU WILL DO THE RIGHT THING.
09:49:00AM I KNOW THIS WILL BE RESOLVED.
09:49:02AM I KNOW WE WILL BE CELEBRATING THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA OWNS
09:49:06AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:49:07AM AND THAT WE ARE HONORING THOSE SOULS IN THAT CEMETERY.
09:49:11AM AND RESPECTING THEM, THE SACRED GROUND THAT IT IS ON.
09:49:14AM SO THANK YOU SO LISTENING.
09:49:17AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
09:49:19AM AND I AM WAITING TO HEAR THE RESOLUTION.
09:49:22AM I KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN SOON.
09:49:24AM HAVE A GREAT DAY.
09:49:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:49:26AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:49:35AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
09:49:37AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK OF ITEM 4, THE CRB.
09:49:41AM AS MANY HAVE SAID PRIOR, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A NEED FOR IT.
09:49:45AM THE PEOPLE CAME TO CITY COUNCIL.
09:49:46AM THEY WANTED IT.
09:49:48AM SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT IN VOTING YES ON IT.
09:49:51AM AND OTHERS HAVEN'T.
09:49:54AM YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE THE WILL OF THE
09:50:03AM PEOPLE.
09:50:03AM EVEN IF YOU FIND -- BECAUSE NOW THERE ARE NEW QUOTES COMING
09:50:09AM OUT THAT NOW THE BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO WHAT THE CRB
09:50:17AM IS ASKING TO BE DONE.
09:50:19AM WHEN YOU GAIN NEW TALKING POINTS SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE AND
09:50:23AM BRING THAT TALKING POINT UP FRONT TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS --
09:50:27AM YOU KNOW, Y'ALL READ THE ATTORNEYS.
09:50:29AM YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
09:50:31AM THEY WOULD BROUGHT IT UP AND SAY INSTEAD OF CREATING AN
09:50:36AM ORDINANCE FOR THE SECOND READING.
09:50:38AM THEY WOULD BROUGHT IT UP TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT WILL
09:50:41AM DUPLICATE THE EFFORTS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.
09:50:43AM PLEASE DO NOT -- THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE WHO
09:50:49AM HAVEN'T VOTED -- MIRANDA, I KNOW WHERE YOU STAND ON IT.
09:50:53AM YOU ARE CONSISTENT.
09:50:54AM FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T VOTED ON IT, TO VOTE YES.
09:51:03AM THIS IS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.
09:51:04AM NO HARM.
09:51:05AM NO FOUL.
09:51:05AM NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM ANYBODY UNLESS THEY USE IT.
09:51:09AM WE WASTE -- WHAT I AM SAYING IS, WE WASTE A LOT OF MONEY
09:51:12AM WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:51:13AM A LOT OF MONEY IS BEING WASTED ON FRIVOLOUS THINGS.
09:51:16AM SO WHEN THE PEOPLE COME AND ASK FOR SOMETHING, NOW IT IS A
09:51:21AM BUDGET ITEM.
09:51:21AM YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT.
09:51:24AM IT IS GOING TO COST MONEY.
09:51:26AM BUT WASTE A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY ON A LOT OF OTHER STUFF SO I
09:51:31AM ASK THAT EVERY COUNCIL PERSON SUPPORT THIS.
09:51:34AM LOOK BACK TO THE OTHER SIDE AND SUPPORT IT AND STAY STRONG
09:51:42AM WITH IT.
09:51:43AM DON'T BE PRESSURED BY OTHERS TO VOTE.
09:51:47AM THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
09:51:48AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
09:51:49AM THANK YOU.
09:51:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:51:51AM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC
09:51:54AM COMMENT AT THIS TIME?
09:51:57AM MR. RANDOLPH, ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
09:52:04AM >> YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:52:05AM GOOD MORNING.
09:52:06AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
09:52:08AM I AM WITH THE WEST TAMPA CAC.
09:52:10AM I WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND TO THE
09:52:15AM CITY COUNCIL.
09:52:16AM TODAY, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE WEST TAMPA PUBLIC SAFETY
09:52:20AM INITIATIVE.
09:52:21AM AND TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO JOE ROBINSON WHO CHAIRS THE WEST
09:52:26AM TAMPA CAC OF THE COUNCIL AND OF THE WEST TAMPA CAC WORKS
09:52:32AM WITH US IN HAND IN HAND.
09:52:34AM THE WEST TAMPA INITIATIVE IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE
09:52:36AM APPROACH TO REDUCING VIOLENCE IN PARTICULAR.
09:52:40AM AND CRIME IN GENERAL.
09:52:41AM IT WAS CURATED TO DETER CRIME BY ECONOMIC OPTIONS AND
09:52:48AM FOCUSES ON NUMBER OF ARRESTS.
09:52:50AM FOCUSES ON REDUCING -- OF THOSE WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS.
09:52:55AM WHAT WAS UNIQUE IT WAS DESIGNED BY POLICE.
09:52:58AM AND FOCUSED ON THE CORRECTION, INTERVENTION AND
09:53:05AM DETERMINANCE.
09:53:05AM IT USES THE HEALTH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND SOCIAL ECONOMIC
09:53:10AM APPROACH.
09:53:10AM WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THIS ALSO IS FOCUS AND GENERATION Z AND
09:53:18AM GENERATIONAL THAT USES EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND
09:53:22AM CRITICAL THINKING AS A STRATEGY.
09:53:24AM IF FOCUSES ON ENDING THE SCHOOL-TO-PRISON PIPELINE,
09:53:31AM RECIDIVISM, AND LOOK AT MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE
09:53:33AM ABUSE AS TWO MAJOR COMPONENTS TO CRIME.
09:53:36AM IT ALSO LOOKS AT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OF A SENSE OF
09:53:42AM COMMUNITY.
09:53:42AM IT HAS A PARTNERSHIP THAT INCLUDES THE DEPARTMENT OF
09:53:46AM JUSTICE, THE U.S. STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE COURTS, THE
09:53:50AM STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS,
09:53:54AM JUVENILE JUSTICE.
09:53:55AM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS AND RESIDENTS, HIGHER EDUCATION, THE
09:53:59AM CRISIS CENTER, SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND HEALTH.
09:54:02AM WE ARE TRULY A COMPREHENSIVE TO REDUCING CRIME IN WEST TAMPA
09:54:10AM WHAT WE ARE USING THIS MODEL TO SHOW WHAT IT HAPPEN WHEN ALL
09:54:14AM THE COMPONENTS COME TOGETHER TO REDUCE THE LEVEL OF CRIME IN
09:54:19AM OUR COMMUNITY AND FOCUSED ON RECEIVING LIVES BY CREATING
09:54:22AM OPPORTUNITIES FOR FOLKS.
09:54:23AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
09:54:26AM TODAY.
09:54:26AM AND, AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE THAT I THINK THE CITY
09:54:32AM COUNCIL DOES NEED A RAISE.
09:54:33AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL AS WELL AS THE EMOTIONAL
09:54:38AM STRAIN THEY GO FOR.
09:54:39AM AND YOU CAN PUT ME DOWN FOR THAT.
09:54:40AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
09:54:44AM MR. D'ANGEL.
09:54:48AM >>CLERK: MR. D'ANGEL, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE
09:54:56AM YOURSELF.
09:54:57AM >> HELLO.
09:55:01AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:55:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, PLEASE PROCEED.
09:55:05AM >> OKAY.
09:55:05AM ANGEL D'ANGEL, BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA.
09:55:12AM I'M HERE TO REITERATE WHAT HAS BEEN SAID.
09:55:16AM SHOULD BE A NO BRAINER OF INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
09:55:20AM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT SAY IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE, YOU
09:55:24AM SHOULDN'T WORRY.
09:55:25AM WHAT ARE THEY HIRING WITH INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
09:55:28AM MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
09:55:30AM AND WHY DO YOU THINK SHE THINKS AFTER WHAT SHE HAS DONE TO
09:55:33AM ALL OF YOU, TO SOME OF YOU MORE THAN OTHERS.
09:55:36AM SHE HASN'T HAD ANY POSITIVE IMPACT ON THIS CITY COUNCIL.
09:55:39AM SHE IS FOCUSED ON MAYOR JANE CASTOR AND HER CAREER.
09:55:43AM YOU SHOULD NOT BE FOCUSED ON MAYOR JANE CASTOR'S CAREER, BUT
09:55:47AM ON THE PEOPLE.
09:55:48AM PEOPLE HAVE LARGELY DEMANDED INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
09:55:51AM IT IS COMMON SENSE.
09:55:52AM NOT RADICAL.
09:55:53AM IT IS NOT DIFFICULT.
09:55:54AM IT IS JUST -- JUST DO IT.
09:55:56AM I AGREE WE DON'T NEED TO ADD ANY F-150s.
09:56:01AM THE TPD NEEDS TO PUT MONEY INTO THINGS THAT MATTER.
09:56:04AM HEAL THE COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF OVERPOLICING.
09:56:06AM YOU KEEP DOING THAT AND COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED
09:56:11AM BEFORE THAT CRIME IS ON THE UP.
09:56:12AM AND YOU FUNDED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UP AND UP AND UP.
09:56:15AM CRIME IS STILL ON THE UP.
09:56:17AM MAYBE DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
09:56:19AM THAT IS A RADICAL IDEA, DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT -- NOT A
09:56:24AM RADICAL IDEA.
09:56:25AM IT IS IMPORTANT TO DO SOMETHING WHEN SOMETHING IS NOT
09:56:27AM WORKING.
09:56:28AM YOU HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR TRAJECTORY.
09:56:30AM WE WILL BE IN THE SAME POSITION EVER.
09:56:33AM DON'T APPROVE MORE MONEY.
09:56:34AM GET INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
09:56:37AM GOOD INVESTMENT.
09:56:39AM PROTECT THE CEMETERY.
09:56:40AM COMMON SENSE.
09:56:42AM THE BLACK COMMUNITY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BEG FOR THEIR
09:56:45AM DECEASED RELATIVES TO BE RESPECTED.
09:56:47AM THEY DESERVE RESPECT IN LIFE.
09:56:48AM THEY CAN HARDLY GET THAT.
09:56:50AM AND THEY CAN'T EVEN GET IT IN DEATH.
09:56:53AM THAT IS RIDICULOUS.
09:56:54AM NOT HOW TAMPA SHOULD OPERATE.
09:56:56AM DO THE RIGHT THING.
09:56:57AM DON'T WORRY ABOUT MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
09:57:00AM SHE WILL BE FINE.
09:57:01AM JUST DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.
09:57:03AM THANK YOU.
09:57:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:57:04AM MISS OATES, ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
09:57:15AM >>CLERK: MISS OATES, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE UNMUTE
09:57:20AM YOURSELF.
09:57:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS OATES, ARE YOU THERE?
09:57:38AM MISS OATES, CAN YOU PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
09:57:42AM OKAY.
09:57:50AM LET'S MOVE ON TO MR. NOHAVA.
09:57:55AM >> GENTLEMEN, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
09:57:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, PLEASE PROCEED.
09:57:59AM >> JOSEPH NOHAVA ALSO WITH TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY ACTION
09:58:04AM COMMITTEE.
09:58:04AM LIKE MY FRIENDS HAVE ALL SAID, I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF
09:58:08AM THE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL ORDINANCE FOR THE CRB, AS WELL AS
09:58:14AM SOLIDARITY AND AGREEMENT WITH CEMETERY SOCIETY.
09:58:17AM THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON THAT THE CITY CAN'T DO THE
09:58:20AM RIGHT THING ON THIS ISSUE AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE GRAVES
09:58:26AM AND THESE FOLKS' LOVED ONES ARE PROTECTED.
09:58:29AM SO, YOU KNOW, IT -- AGAIN, THERE IS REALLY NO REASON THAT
09:58:34AM THE CRB SHOULDN'T HAVE ITS OWN ATTORNEY.
09:58:37AM I MEAN, NOBODY IS REALLY EXPLAINED, I DON'T THINK IN ANY OF
09:58:42AM THIS -- NOT THOSE OF YOU WHO OPPOSE THIS.
09:58:46AM NOT THE MAYOR.
09:58:47AM WHY THEY FEEL LIKE THE CRB IS BETTER WHEN, YOU KNOW,
09:58:51AM CRITICAL EVIDENCE IS OUT OF REACH AND THE ATTORNEYS ARE
09:58:57AM CONFLICTED.
09:58:57AM THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME.
09:58:59AM AND I DON'T THINK IT MAKES ANY SENSE TO ANYBODY ELSE.
09:59:03AM AND, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT, YOU KNOW --
09:59:07AM WHAT -- WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE CRB?
09:59:10AM DESIGNED TO BE AN INDEPENDENT BODY THAT -- YOU KNOW, THAT
09:59:14AM PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO GO TO HOLD TPD SOMEWHAT ACCOUNTABLE?
09:59:18AM OR IS IT JUST A PUBLIC RELATIONS KIND OF EXERCISE.
09:59:24AM I THINK, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MIAMI, KEY WEST, BROWARD, THEY ALL
09:59:29AM HAVE THEIR OWN ATTORNEYS FOR THEIR CRBs AND THEY HAVEN'T
09:59:35AM BURNED DOWN.
09:59:35AM IT IS REALLY A REASONABLE REQUEST.
09:59:38AM AND, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE WAY THAT THE CITY ALLOCATES
09:59:43AM MONEY, YOU KNOW, TO THINGS, LIKE THE TRUCKS AND RADIATION
09:59:48AM DETECTED -- YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST ABSURD.
09:59:51AM ESPECIALLY, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT YOU ARE REVIEWING THE MONEY
09:59:56AM FOR HOUSING AND SOCIAL SERVICES THAT YOU ALLOCATED LAST YEAR
10:00:00AM THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS THAT MONEY?
10:00:02AM RIGHT.
10:00:03AM IT IS DRIED UP.
10:00:04AM BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T ALLOCATE ENOUGH AS WE TOLD YOU LAST YEAR
10:00:09AM EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, HAS HAPPENED.
10:00:12AM I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ON COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR TO ADEQUATELY
10:00:17AM FUND THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR AND
10:00:24AM ACTUALLY NEED RATHER THAN EXTRAVAGANT USELESS EXPENDITURES
10:00:30AM THAT AREN'T NEEDED
10:00:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:00:33AM MISS POYNOR, ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
10:00:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:00:37AM MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:00:40AM I WANT TO ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE CRB.
10:00:43AM I THINK LISTENING TO THE CITIZENS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
10:00:47AM ACCELA, WE EVIDENTLY HAVE GOT TRAINING.
10:00:55AM THREE APPOINTMENTS IN THE NEXT MONTH.
10:00:58AM THOUGH WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME IN THE EVENING.
10:01:00AM WE WILL GET STARTED WITH THESE AND GIVE YOU FEEDBACK
10:01:07AM ON ACCELA.
10:01:07AM MAYOR'S YOUTH CORP.
10:01:09AM I WAS INTRODUCED AT THE MAYOR'S UNIVERSITY WHICH YOU
10:01:14AM HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT HONORED
10:01:16AM ENOUGH TO BE PART OF THAT PROGRAM.
10:01:19AM I LEARNED ABOUT MAYOR'S UNIVERSITY.
10:01:22AM I NOTICED WITH THE YOUNG PEOPLE -- THEY ARE VERY BRIGHT
10:01:25AM YOUNG PEOPLE, AND I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ANY PARTICULAR
10:01:29AM SCHOOLS, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK THAT PROBABLY OVER 50% OF THEM
10:01:33AM COME FROM ONE PARTICULAR SCHOOL IN THE CITY.
10:01:36AM I THINK THAT IS NOT DIVERSE.
10:01:39AM AND COUNCILMAN GUDES HAS BEEN ASKING ABOUT A PROGRAM
10:01:44AM CALLED TLC, WHICH I ACTUALLY KNEW NOTHING ABOUT.
10:01:48AM AND THEY ARE GETTING NO FUNDING, BUT THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS
10:01:54AM GETS ALL KIND OF FUNDING.
10:01:55AM THAT IS SERIOUS INEQUITY.
10:01:58AM AND PEDAGOGY, FOR THOSE OF HOW OUR TEACHERS, THE EDUCATION
10:02:02AM OF LEARNING, IT SHOWS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE GROUPS THAT ARE
10:02:09AM MORE DIVERSE, ETHNICALLY AND FINANCIALLY, EVERYBODY IS GOING
10:02:15AM TO PROSPER FROM THOSE INTERACTIONS.
10:02:18AM AND I HEARD PEOPLE SAY, OH, WELL, THE MAYOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD
10:02:22AM -- THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORP REQUIRES KIDS TO GET THERE.
10:02:27AM YOU KNOW WHAT IF WE HAVE FIVE OR SIX KIDS FROM A SCHOOL NOT
10:02:31AM AS AFFLUENT, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET ONE OF
10:02:35AM THE PARKS AND REC AND DELIVER THEM TO THE YOUTH CORP
10:02:42AM PROGRAM.
10:02:42AM THE BOTTOM LINE YOU CAN'T FUND FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE AND NOT
10:02:47AM FOR OTHERS.
10:02:47AM I KNOW MY HIGH SCHOOL THAT MY SON IS GOING TO ONLY HAS FOUR
10:02:51AM PEOPLE IN THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORP THIS YEAR WHICH IS NOT
10:02:56AM DIVERSE AT ALL.
10:02:57AM SO PLEASE REMEMBER THAT.
10:02:59AM AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:03:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:03:06AM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK DURING
10:03:12AM PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:03:13AM MISS OATES, ARE YOU THERE.
10:03:16AM >> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME.
10:03:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
10:03:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:03:20AM SORRY ABOUT THAT TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
10:03:22AM SO TODAY I WANT TO CALL IN AND TALK WITH REGARDS TO THE
10:03:29AM MAYOR YOUTH CORP AND THE TLC PROGRAM.
10:03:34AM I AM A PARENT OF TWO KIDS THAT WERE ACTUALLY -- WHO UTILIZED
10:03:40AM BOTH PROGRAMS, MAYOR YOUTH CORP, AND MY SON IS CURRENTLY IN
10:03:45AM THE TLC PROGRAM.
10:03:46AM THE INEQUITIES IN THOSE PROGRAMS THAT I HAVE EXPERIENCED AND
10:03:51AM SEEN PERSONALLY IS JUST INTERESTING TO ME IN THE FACT THAT
10:03:57AM OUR KIDS AT TLC ARE NOT ALLOWED TO UTILIZE SOME OF THE
10:04:02AM FUNDING TO TAKE TRIPS TO WASHINGTON OR GO TO SOME OF THE
10:04:07AM PROGRAMS THAT THE NYC OFFERS THEIR KIDS TO DO.
10:04:11AM IT IS REALLY -- IT IS REALLY DISHEARTENING BECAUSE MY SON
10:04:17AM WHO IS IN A TLC PROGRAM SEES THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT MY
10:04:21AM DAUGHTER HAD WHEN SHE WAS AT JEFFERSON, EVEN WHEN SHE WAS
10:04:25AM ALMOST KICKED OUT ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS BECAUSE I COULDN'T
10:04:28AM GET HER TO THE MEETINGS ON TIME, BECAUSE I HAD TO LEAVE WORK
10:04:32AM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY TO GET HER THERE.
10:04:34AM I HOPE YOU GUYS REALLY LOOK INTO THOSE PROGRAMS.
10:04:42AM FINANCIALLY, THEY NEED TO MIRROR EACH OTHER.
10:04:44AM KNOW THE KIDS IN THE TLC PROGRAM MAY NOT NEED TO DO ALL THE
10:04:50AM THINGS THAT THE OLDER KIDS ARE DOING, BUT THE EXPOSURE FOR
10:04:53AM THOSE KIDS IS DEFINITELY NEEDED.
10:04:55AM AND ALSO, THE FACT THAT WE STILL OVER IN EAST TAMPA ARE
10:05:05AM HAVING OUR KIDS PICK UP TRASH THROUGH THE PROGRAM, IT IS
10:05:09AM RIDICULOUS.
10:05:09AM JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE STILL THINK IS THAT EAST
10:05:14AM TAMPA CHILDREN IS LESS THAN.
10:05:15AM AND THAT'S ALL THEY CAN DO IS PICK UP TRASH.
10:05:18AM IT'S A PROBLEM.
10:05:19AM OUR KIDS IN EAST TAMPA ARE VERY EDUCATED AND QUALIFIED TO BE
10:05:23AM IN OTHER POSITIONS THAT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ARE OFFERING
10:05:26AM THEM.
10:05:26AM SO LIKE STATED, CITY COUNCIL IS.
10:05:30AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE
10:05:34AM FOREFRONT AGAIN.
10:05:35AM BECAUSE THIS IS NOT YOUR FIRST TIME TALKING ON THESE
10:05:38AM PROGRAMS, BUT ACTUALLY I HOPE SOMETHING COMES OUT OF THIS SO
10:05:42AM ALL OF OUR KIDS IN TAMPA, ESPECIALLY KIDS IN
10:05:46AM THE TLC PROGRAM WITH BENEFIT FROM SOME OF THE FUNDING AND
10:05:50AM NOT HAVE TO DO FUNDRAISERS FROM THE COMMUNITY TO HELP
10:05:55AM SUPPORT THEM.
10:05:55AM THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:06:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:03AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
10:06:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:06:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: A QUICK COMMENT FOR ANYBODY WATCHING FOR THE
10:06:12AM FIRST TIME ON MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
10:06:14AM ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED ARE THE DOMAIN OF THE
10:06:18AM ADMINISTRATION AND MAYOR'S OFFICE, NOT CITY COUNCIL.
10:06:20AM CITY COUNCIL CAN SAY APPROVE A CONTRACT AND PRESENT IT TO US
10:06:24AM AND REJECT A CONTRACT OR REQUEST THAT THE CITY STAFF DO
10:06:27AM SOMETHING.
10:06:29AM WE HAVE DONE THAT SITTING AT A CRA BOARD.
10:06:33AM WE OFFERED TO BUY MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY BUT THE PROCESS
10:06:38AM THAT THE CITY USED TO ACQUIRE THE CEMETERY WHICH RESULTED IN
10:06:42AM SOMEBODY ELSE OWNING IT AND NOW THE PROCESS THAT IS BEING
10:06:45AM USED TO BUY IT BACK HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CITY COUNCIL.
10:06:49AM WE HAVE GIVEN OUR ADVICE BUT LIKE THE PUBLIC WE NEED TO WAIT
10:06:54AM AND SEE THE PROPOSAL THAT COMES BACK.
10:06:56AM REPRESENTATIVES OF THE ADMINISTRATION COME BEFORE US SAYING
10:06:59AM THEY ARE IN EARNEST TRYING TO BUY THIS BACK.
10:07:01AM LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTS YOU
10:07:06AM MAINTAINING, PRESERVING THAT CEMETERY.
10:07:09AM THE OTHER THING IS -- HOPE STAFF WILL HELP US COME UP WITH A
10:07:13AM SOLUTION LONG TERM SO PRIVATELY OWNED CEMETERIES DON'T END
10:07:18AM UP BEING MANAGED BY THE CITY.
10:07:19AM WE SHOULD CHANGE STATE LAWS TO REQUIRE LARGER TRUST FUNDS SO
10:07:23AM BE SELF-SUFFICIENT IN THE FUTURE.
10:07:25AM THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
10:07:27AM IT IS NOT FAIR THAT A PRIVATE BURDEN IS PUT ON TAXPAYERS,
10:07:32AM BUT IT IS ALSO NOT FAIR THAT PEOPLE WHO TRUSTED THAT THEIR
10:07:35AM LOVED ONES WOULD BE PROTECTED AREN'T PROTECTED.
10:07:40AM IN THIS CASE, FOR SURE, WE WILL ENDS UP PROTECTING IN THE
10:07:43AM FUTURE.
10:07:43AM THANK YOU.
10:07:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARINGS?
10:07:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ALL 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:07:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO TO 10:30.
10:07:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN UP A PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:08:01AM OPEN ALL 9:30.
10:08:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:08:07AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:08:08AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:08:09AM OPPOSED?
10:08:11AM MOTION PASSES.
10:08:12AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, FILES NUMBER TA/CPA 22-19.
10:08:19AM >>EMILY PHALEN: HEY, GOOD MORNING, EMILY PHALEN, PLANNING
10:08:25AM COMMISSION STAFF.
10:08:25AM ITEM NUMBER 2 IS TA/CPA 22-19.
10:08:30AM COMPREHENSIVE MAP AMENDMENT 2302 AND 2304 N. BOULEVARD.
10:08:40AM CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL-10 TO RESIDENTIAL-20.
10:08:42AM THIS AMENDMENT AT APPROVED IN THE JANUARY 22, 2023 MEETING
10:08:48AM AND IT IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
10:08:51AM I AM AVAILABLE IF OF ANY QUESTIONS.
10:08:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:08:56AM PETITIONER.
10:08:58AM >> GOOD MORNING, ANGELA HAUBERT.
10:09:02AM HILL, WARD AND HENDERSON, E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
10:09:07AM I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME
10:09:10AM TODAY.
10:09:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:09:13AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
10:09:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
10:09:23AM MIRANDA.
10:09:23AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:09:26AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:09:27AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:09:29AM I AM SORRY.
10:09:31AM LET'S -- LET'S GO WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:09:33AM OKAY.
10:09:35AM SORRY.
10:09:36AM I SAW THAT.
10:09:36AM GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:09:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 22-19, ORDINANCE PRESENTED
10:09:44AM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:09:45AM ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
10:09:49AM PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
10:09:53AM PROPERTY LOCATED 2302 AND 2304 N. BOULEVARD FROM
10:10:00AM RESIDENTIAL-10, R-10, TO RESIDENTIAL-20, R-20, PROVIDING FOR
10:10:08AM ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND
10:10:11AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:10:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:10:15AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:10:17AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:10:19AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO, MIRANDA AND GUDES
10:10:27AM VOTING NO.
10:10:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NUMBER E 2023-8
10:10:34AM CHAPTER 22.
10:10:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, EMMA GREGORY FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
10:10:38AM HERE FOR A SECOND READING OF THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE
10:10:41AM AMENDING SECTIONS 22-276 AND UPDATING THE TRANSPORTATION
10:10:50AM TECHNICAL MANUAL WITH ADDITIONAL GUIDELINES FOR MOBILITY TO
10:10:54AM USE WHILE EVALUATING PROJECT DESIGNS.
10:10:57AM SO JUST HERE FOR SECOND READING.
10:10:59AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:11:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:11:05AM THANK YOU.
10:11:05AM PETITIONER?
10:11:07AM >> THANK YOU.
10:11:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY.
10:11:09AM NOT THE PETITIONER.
10:11:10AM OKAY.
10:11:10AM NO QUESTIONS?
10:11:13AM IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISH TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS?
10:11:19AM THANK YOU.
10:11:19AM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:11:22AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:11:24AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:11:24AM OPPOSE?
10:11:26AM THE MOTION PASSES.
10:11:27AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:11:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:11:30AM ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING ORDINANCE OF CITY OF
10:11:33AM TAMPA RELATED TO CHAPTER 22, STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, AMENDING
10:11:38AM 22-276.
10:11:40AM TECHNICAL STANDARDS MAY BE ESTABLISHED, TECHNICAL STANDARDS
10:11:44AM ADOPTED BY REPLACING THE 2009 EDITION WITH THE 2023
10:11:50AM EDITION.
10:11:51AM PROVIDING WITH ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY
10:11:56AM AND PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:11:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION AND SECOND.
10:11:59AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:12:01AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:12:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NUMBER E 2023-8,
10:12:13AM CHAPTER 18.
10:12:14AM >> I APOLOGIZE.
10:12:23AM WE ARE ITEM NUMBER 4, CORRECT?
10:12:27AM ITEM NUMBER 4, AS YOU KNOW IS THE SECOND READING OF THE
10:12:30AM ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO BE HIRED FOR
10:12:37AM THE CRB.
10:12:37AM WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH.
10:12:40AM AT THIS POINT TO SAVE TIME, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
10:12:44AM QUESTIONS UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO REITERATE WHAT IS INNED
10:12:47AM ORDINANCE.
10:12:48AM THANK YOU.
10:12:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:12:53AM COUNCILMAN GUDES?
10:12:54AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
10:12:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO REITERATE AGAIN HOW MUCH YOU WORKED
10:13:00AM WITH US TO MAKE THIS WHAT WE WANTED.
10:13:02AM AND FOR ALL THE FOLKS WHO ARE OUT THERE TODAY TO COME AND
10:13:07AM SPEAK ON IT, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO FOCUS
10:13:10AM ON THIS.
10:13:10AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PEOPLE CONTINUOUSLY TELL US THEY
10:13:14AM WANT.
10:13:15AM AND I FEEL STRONGLY THAT THIS -- THAT THE CRB IS AN ENTITY.
10:13:23AM THE MEMBERS WILL CHANGE BUT THE ENTITY REMAINS UNDER THE
10:13:27AM POWER OF THE ORDINANCE WE MAKE.
10:13:30AM REGARDLESS OF HOW PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS ON THE BOARD FEEL,
10:13:33AM THE BOARD SHOULD -- SHOULD HAVE -- SHOULD WORK FOR -- FOR
10:13:41AM THE PEOPLE THROUGH US AS COUNCIL, MAKING THE ORDINANCE TO
10:13:44AM MAINTAIN HOW THAT BOARD WILL WORK.
10:13:48AM SO THE REASON -- ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS I AM VOTING FOR
10:13:52AM THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO SEE THAT BOARD STRENGTHEN OVER TIME.
10:13:57AM AND I THINK THIS WILL BEGIN THE PROCESS OF STRENGTHENING TO
10:14:01AM A POINT THAT WILL HELP CITIZENS BUILD AND DEVELOP THAT TRUST
10:14:07AM THAT MANY OF THEM SAY IS LACKING.
10:14:09AM SO TO ME, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT IN THAT ABILITY TO BRING
10:14:13AM TRUST TOGETHER.
10:14:14AM AND I AM HOPING THAT ONCE IT IS PASSED, THAT WE CAN WORK
10:14:18AM TOWARD THAT TOGETHER.
10:14:19AM THANK YOU.
10:14:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:14:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY THE SAME THING IN DIFFERENT
10:14:29AM WAYS.
10:14:29AM THANK MISS ZELMAN AND HER DEPARTMENT.
10:14:33AM THREE EXAMPLES WHERE I WILL THANK THEM, AND I WILL SOUND
10:14:36AM LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT A BREATH OF FRESH AIR AND GREAT
10:14:41AM COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP TO GET THIS KIND OF WORK FROM THE
10:14:44AM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:14:45AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:14:46AM ALSO, FOR ANYBODY LOOKING AT THIS, IT BENEFITS EVERYBODY JUST
10:14:52AM TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL LEFT TO OBJECTIVITY.
10:14:56AM NOT ANY CONDEMNATION OF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:14:59AM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IN THIS CASE PUT IT TOGETHER.
10:15:02AM YOU NEVER KNOW OF A FUTURE LEGAL DEPARTMENT BECAUSE
10:15:05AM POLITICALLY -- IT COULD BE PRO-POLICE.
10:15:07AM ANTI-POLICE.
10:15:09AM THIS GIVES ANOTHER ARM'S LENGTH TO ALLOW OBJECTIVITY.
10:15:15AM IF YOU ARE A POLICE OFFICER, YOU WILL WANT AS MUCH
10:15:19AM OBJECTIVITY AS THOSE WHO ARE ADVERSE TO POLICE OFFICERS.
10:15:23AM I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR DOING THIS.
10:15:27AM AND IT BENEFITS EVERYBODY.
10:15:28AM THANK YOU.
10:15:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:15:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:15:31AM I WANT TO THANK MISS ZELMAN.
10:15:35AM THINGS BRINGING THIS TO ORDINANCE, SOME THINGS THAT CAN
10:15:38AM ADDRESS SOME REALLY LEGITIMATE GOOD-FAITH KERNELS OF WHAT I
10:15:42AM WOULD SEE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
10:15:45AM I WILL USE THE WORD "REASONABLE."
10:15:48AM BECAUSE I THINK IT IS REASONABLE.
10:15:49AM BIG C CONFLICT OR SMALL C CONFLICT.
10:15:54AM I RELATE THIS A LOT TO AN INSURANCE COMPANY.
10:15:57AM YOU ARE INSURED BY GEICO AND A MOTOR VEHICLE.
10:16:01AM AND SEND YOU AN IN-HOUSE COUNSEL.
10:16:05AM OR GEICO CAN CONTRACT WITH AN OUTSIDE FIRM RIGHT TO
10:16:08AM REPRESENT YOUR INTEREST JUST LIKE THE INHOUSE ATTORNEY AND
10:16:13AM PAID SEPARATELY THROUGH GEICO THROUGH X LAW FIRM.
10:16:16AM NEITHER HOLDS A BIG C CONFLICT OF INTEREST, BUT ONE THAT
10:16:21AM WORKS DIRECTLY FOR GEICO OR ALLSTATE, STATE FARM, WHATEVER
10:16:27AM INSURANCE, AND ANOTHER ONE THAT WORKS FOR A LAW FIRM THAT IS
10:16:31AM CONTRACTED THROUGH IT.
10:16:33AM AGAIN, THIS HAS -- REASONABLE TO ADDRESS AN
10:16:37AM APPEARANCE.
10:16:37AM I DON'T BELIEVE ANY ISSUE THAT HAVE ARISEN THAT I SEE WITH
10:16:42AM OUR CITY ATTORNEY AND AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT ADDRESSES AN
10:16:45AM APPEARANCE.
10:16:45AM SOMETHING THAT IS REASONABLE, BUT, AGAIN, BY DOING THE
10:16:49AM THINGS THAT YOU HAVE DONE, YOU ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF
10:16:53AM THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES AND HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB IN THIS
10:16:58AM REGARD.
10:16:58AM SOME THINGS IN THE CRB I OPPOSED MOVING FORWARD WITH THE
10:17:02AM SUBPOENA POWER AND I STAND BEHIND THAT 110%.
10:17:06AM SOMETHING THAT IS REASONABLE AND TAILORED SUCH THAT NO
10:17:10AM REASONABLY UNFORESEEABLE CONSEQUENCES WITH THIS.
10:17:13AM ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:17:15AM APPRECIATE YOU.
10:17:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
10:17:18AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM
10:17:21AM NUMBER 4, FILE NUMBER E 2023-8, CHAPTER 18.
10:17:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:17:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
10:17:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED.
10:17:35AM MOTION PASSES.
10:17:36AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:17:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:17:42AM READING AND ADOPTION AMENDING 18-8-6 CITY OF TAMPA CODE TO
10:17:49AM PROVIDE FOR A CITIZEN REVIEW BOARD LEGAL ADVISOR WHO IS NOT
10:17:53AM A CITY EMPLOYEE, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, REPEALING ALL
10:17:57AM ORDINANCES AND PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:18:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:18:02AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:18:03AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:18:05AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, MANISCALCO AND CITRO
10:18:13AM VOTING NO.
10:18:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:18:15AM AT THIS TIME ANYONE WHO WILL BE GIVING ANY TYPE OF TESTIMONY
10:18:20AM DURING THE QUASI-JUDICIAL PART OF OUR 9:30 HEARINGS, CAN YOU
10:18:24AM PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
10:18:26AM [SWEARING IN]
10:18:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:18:38AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE NUMBER VAC 23-05.
10:18:45AM >> ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION PRESENTING FILE
10:18:49AM NUMBER VAC 23-05.
10:18:51AM SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING FOR A PROPOSED
10:18:56AM VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE NORTH AND SOUTH PORTION OF
10:18:59AM THE ALLEYWAY NORTH OF COLUMBUS DRIVE, SOUTH OF KATHLEEN
10:19:03AM STREET, EAST OF FREMONT AVENUE AND WEST OF ROME AVENUE.
10:19:07AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:19:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:19:12AM PETITIONER?
10:19:12AM >> NOTHING TO ADD UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME.
10:19:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HE HAS TO SAY HIS NAME.
10:19:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOUR NAME.
10:19:20AM >> TODD HUTCHINS.
10:19:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: STEP UP TO THE PODIUM.
10:19:26AM >> TODD HUTCHINS, NORTH ROME, AND I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD UNLESS
10:19:31AM MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS.
10:19:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:33AM ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA
10:19:37AM ITEM NUMBER 5?
10:19:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:19:41AM >> SECOND.
10:19:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:19:46AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:19:48AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:19:50AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:19:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 5, VAC
10:19:56AM 23-05, SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:20:00AM SECOND READING FOR ORDINANCE FOR VACATING, CLOSING AND
10:20:03AM DISCONTINUING THAT NORTH, SOUTH DIAGONAL ALLEYWAY LOCATED
10:20:09AM NORTH OF COLUMBUS DRIVE, SOUTH OF KATHLEEN STREET, EAST OF
10:20:13AM FREMONT AVENUE AND WEST OF ROME AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT OF
10:20:17AM BOWMAN HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:20:21AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
10:20:23AM 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS
10:20:29AM PECULIARLY SET FORTH HERE IN PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND
10:20:35AM PENALTIES.
10:20:36AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.
10:20:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:20:41AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:20:43AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:20:47AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:20:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:20:51AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-107.
10:20:58AM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:21:02AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, CASE REZ-22-107.
10:21:06AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION 59 THE LOCATION
10:21:10AM 1206 WEST LEMON STREET.
10:21:13AM PROPOSED REZONING FROM RS-50, INVESTIGATION SINGLE-FAMILY
10:21:17AM TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
10:21:20AM DETACHED.
10:21:21AM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY'S OFFICE.
10:21:25AM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:21:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUSSEIN.
10:21:33AM >> STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
10:21:37AM YOU MAY RECALL A PLAN WE HAD TO MODIFY TO MEET THE CITY'S
10:21:40AM REQUEST REGARDING URBAN DESIGN WHICH WE DID AND SUBMITTED
10:21:45AM THE REVISIONS TO THE CITY STAFF WHICH IS PRESENTED TO YOU
10:21:47AM FOR SECOND READING.
10:21:48AM RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
10:21:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:21:52AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO MAKE COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM
10:21:56AM NUMBER 6, REZ 2023-107?
10:22:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:22:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
10:22:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:22:07AM OPPOSED?
10:22:08AM MOTION CARRIED.
10:22:09AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:22:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, FILE NUMBER 22-107, ORDINANCE
10:22:16AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:22:18AM REZONING PROPERTY 1206 WEST LEMON STREET IN THE CITY OF
10:22:22AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
10:22:25AM FROM ZONING TO DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
10:22:30AM SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD, PLANNED SINGLE-FAMILY DETACH AND
10:22:34AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:22:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:22:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY IT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
10:22:39AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:22:41AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:22:43AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:22:52AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:22:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, REZ-22-34.
10:22:59AM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7,REZ-22-34.
10:23:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, REZ-22-34.
10:23:12AM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:23:16AM SECOND READING 6460 TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD PROPOSED REZONING
10:23:22AM FROM PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, PLACE
10:23:29AM OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY AND DAY CARE.
10:23:32AM THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN TURNED IN.
10:23:35AM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:23:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:23:39AM >> WILLIAM MALLOY, 325 SOUTH BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:23:43AM I THINK THE CASE IS IN A VERY HAPPY PLACE.
10:23:46AM I AM NOT HERE TO MESS THAT UP.
10:23:48AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:23:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:23:51AM SEEING NONE.
10:23:53AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WANT TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
10:23:59AM 7, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-84.
10:24:02AM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED BY
10:24:06AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:24:07AM >> ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE 6460 TAMPA PALMS
10:24:15AM BOULEVARD IN CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
10:24:17AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FOR ZONING DISTRICT PD PLANNED
10:24:20AM DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND PLACE ARE
10:24:24AM RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.
10:24:25AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:24:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECONDED BY
10:24:31AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:24:31AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:24:33AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:24:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:24:38AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE NUMBER REZ-23-03.
10:24:45AM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN.
10:24:46AM THIS IS PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT 2019
10:24:51AM AND 2023 GORDON STREET PROPOSED ZONINGS FROM RM-16,
10:24:56AM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD,
10:25:01AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
10:25:03AM SITE PLAN HAS BEEN TURNED INTO THE CITY'S CLERK OFFICE.
10:25:07AM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:25:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:25:11AM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
10:25:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, RALPH SCHULER, NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.
10:25:23AM HERE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE TURNED IN ALL THE REQUIRED
10:25:26AM DOCUMENTS AND HAPPY WITH THE OUTCOME AND LOOK FORWARD TO
10:25:29AM SEEING THE PROJECT MOVE FORWARD.
10:25:31AM THANK YOU.
10:25:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:25:33AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS?
10:25:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:25:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:25:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:25:43AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:25:44AM FAVOR.
10:25:46AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:25:47AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:25:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER REZ-23-03.
10:25:53AM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2019 AND 2023
10:25:57AM GORDON STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
10:26:00AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:26:04AM CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY AND CG
10:26:09AM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SINGLE-FAMILY
10:26:13AM RESIDENTIAL DETACHED.
10:26:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:26:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:26:18AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:26:20AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:26:21AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:26:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, FILE
10:26:32AM NUMBER REZ-23-08 --
10:26:36AM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: 09.
10:26:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 09.
10:26:41AM DYSLEXIA AGAIN.
10:26:42AM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN.
10:26:44AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT LOCATION 2323 WEST NORTH B
10:26:50AM STREET.
10:26:50AM PROPOSED REZONING FROM RM-16, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
10:26:55AM TO CN, COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:26:56AM THIS BEING EUCLIDEAN, NO SITE PLAN IS REQUIRED.
10:27:01AM I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:27:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:27:07AM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER.
10:27:08AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, FILE NUMBER REZ-23-09.
10:27:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS JONES, ARE YOU THERE?
10:27:33AM MISS JONES, ARE YOU WITH US?
10:27:38AM >>CLERK: SHE IS NOT RESPONDING.
10:27:40AM >> YES, SIR.
10:27:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU THERE?
10:27:46AM >> YES, SIR, I'M HERE.
10:27:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE NEED TO SEE YOUR FACE ON VIDEO, PLEASE.
10:27:51AM >> OKAY.
10:27:51AM I AM TRYING TO GET IT --
10:27:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THERE YOU GO.
10:27:55AM >> HERE I AM.
10:27:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY -- MA'AM, I NEED FOR YOU TO RAISE YOUR
10:28:02AM RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
10:28:03AM >> YES.
10:28:04AM [SWEARING IN]
10:28:10AM >> YES, I AM.
10:28:11AM >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
10:28:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE TO THIS?
10:28:17AM >> NO, SIR.
10:28:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
10:28:19AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MISS JONES.
10:28:20AM IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO
10:28:24AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, FILE NUMBER REZ-23-09?
10:28:31AM A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:28:33AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:28:35AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:28:3AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:28:38AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:28:39AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:28:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:44AM AN ORDINANCE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:28:48AM 2323 WEST NORTH B STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND
10:28:53AM CLASSIFICATION RM-16, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY TO CN,
10:29:00AM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:29:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:29:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
10:29:05AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:29:09AM CLERK MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:29:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, REZ-23-11.
10:29:18AM >>ZAIN HUSSEIN: ZAIN HUSSEIN, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
10:29:20AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AT 214 NORTH
10:29:26AM HOWARD AVENUE.
10:29:27AM PROPOSED REZONING FROM CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD, PLANNED
10:29:32AM DEVELOPMENT, MEDICAL OFFICE.
10:29:33AM SITE PLANS WERE TURNED INTO THE CITY'S CLERK OFFICE, I'M
10:29:38AM HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:29:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HUSSEIN.
10:29:42AM SEEING NONE, PETITIONER?
10:29:49AM >> RALPH SCHULER, NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.
10:29:51AM SAME THING HERE.
10:29:52AM HAPPY WITH THE CHANGES WE MADE BASED ON COUNCIL.
10:29:57AM AND LOOK FORWARD TO A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT.
10:30:01AM THANK YOU.
10:30:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:30:03AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WISH TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
10:30:07AM 150, REZ-22-11.
10:30:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:30:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:30:14AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:30:15AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:30:16AM OPPOSED?
10:30:17AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:30:18AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:30:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING ADOPTION
10:30:23AM FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 214 NORTH HOWARD
10:30:27AM AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
10:30:31AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FOR ZONING CLASSIFICATION CG
10:30:35AM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND MEDICAL
10:30:42AM OFFICE.
10:30:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECONDED BY
10:30:45AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:30:47AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:30:48AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:30:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:30:57AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO OPEN 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:31:02AM ANSWER ITEM NUMBER 11, VAC 23-09 -- AND I BELIEVE THERE
10:31:09AM MIGHT BE SOME PEOPLE WHO JUST WALKED IN WHO NEED TO BE SWORN
10:31:12AM IN.
10:31:12AM [SWEARING IN]
10:31:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:31:29AM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:31:33AM I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THE ELMO ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE.
10:31:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT'S THERE.
10:31:38AM >>ROSS SAMONS: PRESENTING FILE NUMBER VAC-23-08.
10:31:43AM PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN 1704 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET.
10:31:49AM REPRESENTATIVE'S NAME IS TYLER HUDSON.
10:31:53AM PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE THE ALLEY NORTH OF 7th
10:31:57AM AVENUE, EAST OF FRANKLIN STREET AND WEST OF FLORIDA AVENUE.
10:32:01AM THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED FEBRUARY 8, 2023.
10:32:07AM THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE ALLEYWAY
10:32:10AM TO BE PRESENT TO BE VACATED.
10:32:12AM THE APPLICANT ELSE REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS THAT THE
10:32:14AM ALLEY WAS PREVIOUSLY VACATED FOR VAC-16-19.
10:32:19AM UP WITH OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE ORDINANCE WAS NEVER
10:32:22AM COMPLETED.
10:32:22AM APPLICATION SEEKS TO REINSTATE THE ORIGINAL APPROVED
10:32:27AM VACATING.
10:32:27AM ALLEY SUBDIVISION PLAT.
10:32:30AM 2424 SQUARE FEET.
10:32:33AM AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSED VACATING.
10:32:41AM THE ALLEYWAY IN YELLOW.
10:32:43AM AND THE PROPERTY -- THE OWNER'S PROPERTY IN RED.
10:32:46AM AGAIN, THE NORTH SECTION OF THIS ALLEYWAY WAS PREVIOUSLY
10:32:55AM VACATED IN 1920.
10:32:58AM THIS WAS PER ORDINANCE 895.
10:33:07AM AGAIN, THIS PLAT SHOWING THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN
10:33:12AM RED.
10:33:12AM AND AGAIN, THE PREVIOUSLY VACATED PORTION OF THE ALLEY IN
10:33:16AM YELLOW.
10:33:16AM THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE ALLEYWAY LOOKING IN ORDER FROM
10:33:27AM HENDERSON AVENUE.
10:33:29AM THIS IS AN IMAGE OF THE PORTION OF THE VACATED ALLEY LOOKING
10:33:37AM SOUTH FROM 7th AVENUE.
10:33:39AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
10:33:47AM EASEMENT RENOVATIONS BY FRONTIER.
10:33:50AM NATURAL RESOURCES AND MUST COMPLY WITH TREE PRESERVATION AND
10:33:55AM SITE DESIGN FOR ANY TREES IN A VACATED AREA.
10:34:00AM THERE IS.
10:34:03AM THERE WAS AN OBJECTION FROM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT; HOWEVER,
10:34:07AM THEY ARE LOOKING AT PROPOSED -- CURRENT EXITS IN THE
10:34:13AM ALLEYWAY FOR THE BUILDINGS.
10:34:16AM SO MAY BE A PERMANENT CROSS ACCESS NEEDED BEFORE SECOND
10:34:20AM READING IF APPROVED TODAY IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
10:34:22AM READINGS.
10:34:23AM SO TO GIVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT INSPECTORS ENOUGH TIME TO GET
10:34:29AM OUT AND INSPECT THAT.
10:34:31AM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:34:34AM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:34:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:34:39AM SEEING NONE?
10:34:41AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:34:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS, AND I AM NOT
10:34:46AM SURE IF THIS IS 100% CORRECT.
10:34:48AM MANY YEARS AGO, THIS WAS THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE GARBAGE
10:34:52AM PICKUP IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:34:53AM THEY HAD ONE DRIVER.
10:34:55AM ONE CATCHER.
10:34:56AM AND TWO INDIVIDUALS ON EACH SIDE THAT WOULD THROW THE CANS
10:35:00AM UP AND YOU DUMP IT IN.
10:35:01AM THE TRUCK WERE MUCH NARROWER.
10:35:04AM NOT EXTENDED AND FOUR INDIVIDUALS WORKING.
10:35:08AM THEY WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY AND VERY HARD
10:35:11AM THAT IS THE WAY IT WAS IN THE '40s, '50s AND '60S.
10:35:15AM '70s STARTED TO CHANGE AND THESE ARE THE THINGS -- THE STORM
10:35:19AM AT THAT TIME.
10:35:20AM WHATEVER THE NORM MAY BE TODAY, BUT THEY WORK VERY HARD AND
10:35:25AM I WANT TO COMPLICATE THE PEOPLE WHO LO LONGER HERE -- THEY
10:35:29AM DON'T VOTE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HERE BUT HAVE GONE
10:35:32AM TO HEAVEN.
10:35:34AM THOSE INDIVIDUALS KEPT THE CITY MOVING LIKE THEY DO NOW.
10:35:38AM KUDOS TO EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE TO HELP THE CITY.
10:35:41AM IT WAS DIFFICULT THEN.
10:35:41AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:35:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
10:35:46AM PETITIONER.
10:36:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:36:19AM TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
10:36:25AM ROSS DID A GOOD JOB GOING THROUGH THAT.
10:36:28AM YOU SEE PICTURES FROM THE SKY.
10:36:30AM THIS IS A PICTURE FROM THE STREET.
10:36:32AM THE ALLEY IS BEHIND IN BUILDING 1701 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET.
10:36:37AM MAUREEN AYRAL, THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING, WILL SPEAK IN A
10:36:45AM MOMENT.
10:36:46AM DOES AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF PRESERVING AND RESTORING OVERTIME.
10:36:52AM A RESTAURANT TENANT THAT IS IN THE MIDST OF CONSTRUCTING A
10:36:57AM RESTAURANT WE HOPE WILL BE ABLE TO OPEN IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
10:37:00AM IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IT WAS -- 1920.
10:37:04AM BY 1920, ORDINANCE 1895 WHEN NORTHERN -- 20% OF THIS ALLEY
10:37:12AM WAS VACATED.
10:37:13AM THIS IS A DEAD-END ALLEY.
10:37:16AM THIS ALLEY IN OUR VIEW AND IN THE CITY'S VIEW HAS NO
10:37:20AM MEANINGFUL CROSS-ACCESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
10:37:22AM THIS IS THE BACK OF HOUSE FOR THE BUILDINGS ON EITHER SIDE.
10:37:25AM TO THE LEFT, TO THE WEST IS WHAT WILL BE A RESTAURANT
10:37:29AM BUILDING.
10:37:29AM TO THE RIGHT WILL BE SORT OF AN INDUSTRIAL BUILDING USED BY
10:37:33AM -- I BELIEVE IT IS REDEEMER CHURCH.
10:37:37AM THEY HOLD SERVICES ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
10:37:40AM WHAT MAKES THIS A LITTLE BIT STRANGE IS THIS ALLEY HAS
10:37:43AM ALREADY BEEN VACATED WHICH BEGS THE QUESTION WHY I AM
10:37:47AM STANDING BEFORE YOU.
10:37:48AM COUNCIL IS AWARE WHEN THESE ALLEYS GET VACATED SEVERAL
10:37:51AM CONDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE MET.
10:37:52AM TYPICALLY THE CITY THAT RESERVES EASEMENTS OR A PRIVATE
10:37:57AM ENTITY THAT ACTS LIKE THE CITY, FRONTIER, TECO, GROUPS LIKE
10:38:00AM THAT.
10:38:00AM THE VACATING APPROVED IN 2016 WAS A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL AND
10:38:06AM REQUIRED PRIVATE PARTIES FOR THEMSELVES TO ENTER INTO AN
10:38:09AM ACCESS EASEMENT.
10:38:11AM THE BUILDING SHOWN IN RED AND THE BUILDING EAST OF IT TO THE
10:38:14AM RIGHT.
10:38:14AM FOR REASONS THAT ARE LOST TO TIME, THAT EASEMENT WAS NEVER
10:38:18AM PROVIDED TO THE CITY.
10:38:19AM I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF DISPUTE WHETHER IT WAS
10:38:22AM ACTUALLY REQUIRED OR NOT.
10:38:24AM AND EVEN AS ROSS ALLUDED TO, MAY BE EVEN A LITTLE BIT OF
10:38:29AM QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
10:38:30AM TO AVOID BEING HERE A THIRD TIME.
10:38:32AM WE WILL DO THE EASEMENT AND HAVE IT WITHIN THE CITY IN 180
10:38:37AM DAYS, IF IT TURNS OUT IT IS NOT NECESSARY, THEN IT WE HAVE
10:38:41AM DISCUSSED SOME MECHANISM OF THE CITY WILL AGREE THAT THE
10:38:50AM EASEMENT CAN GO AWAY.
10:38:52AM FROM OUR BUILDING WITH A WALK ACROSS THE HALF OF THE ALLEY
10:38:56AM THAT BELONGS TO THE EASTERN NEIGHBOR.
10:38:57AM SO THAT IS THE REQUEST.
10:38:59AM WE ARE GOING TO BE -- THERE IS NO -- NO CURRENT OBJECTING OF
10:39:04AM AGENCY.
10:39:04AM AS OF THE DATE OF THE SCREEN SHOT, THERE WAS FROM FIRE BUT
10:39:08AM THAT HAS BEEN RESOLVED AND NOT AWARE OF ANY OPPOSITION.
10:39:12AM YOU WILL RECEIVE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM TAMPA HEIGHTS
10:39:15AM RESIDENTS WHO ARE EXCITED OF THIS FRANKLIN CORRIDOR WILL BE.
10:39:20AM FITS AND STARTS.
10:39:22AM AND A RESTAURANT WILL HELP TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
10:39:24AM AND SHE WILL TELL US A LITTLE BIT OF THE WORK SHE HAS DONE.
10:39:30AM >> COUNCILMEMBERS -- CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:39:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AN EASEL RIGHT THERE.
10:39:37AM MAUREEN AYRAL, BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:39:46AM I HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU SUPPORTING DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA
10:39:49AM BY A NUMBER OF OTHER ENTITIES.
10:39:51AM THE SALVATION ARMY, WHEN THEY WANTED TO CONSOLIDATE AND
10:39:56AM REZONE.
10:39:57AM I WAS A BIG SUPPORTER, BECAUSE WHEN I BOUGHT THIS BUILDING
10:40:00AM IN 2014, IT LOOKED LIKE THIS.
10:40:03AM IT WAS ABOUT TO BE CONDEMNED.
10:40:05AM THIS WAS THE -- THE INTERIOR -- I DON'T KNOW WHICH SIDE IS
10:40:09AM WHICH, BUT THE INTERIOR.
10:40:11AM THE ROOF HAD COLLAPSED.
10:40:13AM WATER WAS FLOODING INTO THE BUILDING.
10:40:16AM I HAD MR. FERNANDEZ FROM TAMPA HISTORIC GROUP COME AND LOOK.
10:40:21AM HE WAS LIKE, GOD BLESS YOU, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T GET THIS
10:40:25AM FIXED RIGHT AWAY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WILL BE WORKING
10:40:29AM WITH.
10:40:29AM SO I HAVE MADE A LOT OF MISTAKES.
10:40:31AM I AM NOT A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER.
10:40:34AM I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL REAL ESTATE INVESTOR.
10:40:36AM I BOUGHT THIS AS A HOBBY BECAUSE I WANT TO RESTORE A
10:40:42AM HISTORIC BUILDING.
10:40:43AM AND I WILL TELL YOU, I HAVE LEARNED THAT REAL ESTATE REALLY
10:40:48AM ISN'T A HOBBY.
10:40:49AM IT IS A JOB.
10:40:49AM I HAVE ANOTHER JOB THOUGH THAT FORTUNATELY PAYS THE BILLS.
10:40:54AM BECAUSE FOR TWO YEARS, I COULD NOT EVEN GET A BANK TO LOOK
10:40:58AM THAT THE PROPERTY.
10:40:58AM IT REALLY -- IT HAD GONE FROM BEING BEAUTIFUL WITH WINDOWS
10:41:07AM -- THE NEXT PAGE -- THE PREVIOUS TENANT, THE PREVIOUS OWNER,
10:41:11AM GOD BLESS HIM, HAD OWNED IT SINCE THE '70s.
10:41:15AM HE WAS LONGER RECEIVING ANY INCOME FROM RENT, AND HE
10:41:19AM ACTUALLY HAD LOST THE ABILITY TO EVEN HAVE ANY BUSINESS
10:41:22AM OPERATE OUT OF THE SECOND FLOOR BECAUSE HE HAD BEEN
10:41:26AM ARRESTED FOR HAVING RAVES BACK IN THE '70s.
10:41:34AM HE WAS VERY HAPPY TO HAVE US COME IN AND HIT HIS NUMBER AND
10:41:37AM BUY THE PROPERTY.
10:41:38AM AND FOR TWO YEARS, I DID EVERYTHING REPLACE THE ROOF,
10:41:44AM THE HVAC, THE ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, EVERYTHING, JUST SO I
10:41:48AM CAN SHOW IT TO TENANTS.
10:41:49AM AT THIS POINT, I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO TAKE OUT THE
10:41:57AM BRICKS THAT WERE STRUCTURALLY DAMAGING THE PROPERTY BECAUSE
10:41:59AM THEY WEREN'T PUT IN THERE PROPERLY.
10:42:02AM SO 2017, THE HOME ON FRANKLIN.
10:42:06AM I WAS ON THE BOARD WITH THE OPENER OF THAT.
10:42:08AM HE ASKED ME IF HE COULD DO FOOD HALL.
10:42:11AM I SAID THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
10:42:12AM SO WE WORKED TOGETHER.
10:42:14AM LET ME TELL YOU, THIS BUILDING WENT FROM, YOU KNOW, REALLY A
10:42:21AM DEPLORABLE SITUATION INTO THREE OR FOUR YEARS LATER, IT WAS
10:42:25AM GENERATING 4.4 MILLION IN SALES OF FOOD AND ALCOHOL.
10:42:30AM IT EMPLOYED 50 HOSPITALITY -- HOSPITALITY WORKERS AND OVER A
10:42:40AM HALF A MILLION OF DOLLARS IN TIPS AND HELPED THE 400%
10:42:46AM INCREASE IN REAL ESTATE TAXES THAT I EXPERIENCED.
10:42:49AM SO NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER FOOD HALL.
10:42:51AM UNFORTUNATELY, COVID DESTROYED A LOT OF BUSINESSES IN THE
10:42:55AM AREA.
10:42:55AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE HALL IN FRANKLIN IN THE WINTER
10:43:00AM MONTHS LEADING UP TO THE -- WHEN WE HAD TO SHUT DOWN FOR
10:43:06AM COVID HAD 10,000 TO 15,000 PEOPLE A MONTH IN THERE.
10:43:11AM AND ALL THE BUSINESSES ON THE STREET BENEFITED.
10:43:14AM EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
10:43:15AM I HEAR FROM THEM ALL THE TIME.
10:43:17AM IN 2018, I STARTED A -- A YELLOW BRICK ROAD BUSINESS
10:43:22AM ASSOCIATION SO THAT WE COULD SPEAK WITH ONE VOICE.
10:43:25AM AND THEY ARE ALL IN SUPPORT OF PLEASE OPENING UP ANOTHER --
10:43:30AM YOU KNOW, SPACE THAT IS GOING TO DRAW PEOPLE.
10:43:33AM IT COULD HAVE BEEN A FURNITURE STORE, BUT THAT IS NOT GOING
10:43:36AM TO GET THE KIND OF ACTIVITY THAT THIS AREA NEEDS.
10:43:39AM SO I AM ASKING FOR YOUR HELP, BECAUSE THE CONDITION THAT
10:43:44AM TYLER HUDSON MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT I DID NOT UNDERSTAND
10:43:48AM WITH THE FIRST VACATING WAS BETWEEN ME AND TOMMY MARTINO,
10:43:53AM WHO WAS A LAWYER.
10:43:54AM AND I THOUGHT THE PURPOSE OF THIS CROSS-ALLEY EXPERT THAT
10:43:58AM JAMAL, WHO NEEDED TO BUILD A FREEZER IN HIS PROPERTY, WILL
10:44:03AM HAVE PERMANENT ACCESS TO HIS BUILDING TO RUN HIS KITCHEN.
10:44:08AM WELL, IT TURNS OUT IT WAS PART OF THE REASON.
10:44:11AM THE OTHER WAS TO EXHAUST HOODS TO THE ROOF.
10:44:14AM TOMMY, WHO WAS A LAWYER, CAME TO ME -- HE LET IT EXPIRE.
10:44:19AM JOHN GRANDOFF WROTE THE FIRST ONE AND LET IT EXPIRE.
10:44:24AM HE SAID, MAUREEN, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS BECAUSE JAMAL AND
10:44:28AM I HAVE COME TO AN AGREEMENT.
10:44:30AM GIVE US $500 IN GIFT CARDS AND WE DON'T NEED IT.
10:44:33AM I LET IT GO.
10:44:35AM I DIDN'T REALIZE.
10:44:36AM AND NOW I AM BACK QUITE A FEW YEARS LATER ASKING THAT YOU
10:44:40AM GIVE US A HAND.
10:44:40AM THANK YOU.
10:44:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:44:51AM I HAVE ONE, THE OLD CARPENTER'S UNION HALL?
10:44:54AM >> YES, IT IS.
10:44:55AM 1954 -- IT OPENED IN 1920, FARIS AUTOMOBILE.
10:45:01AM 1954 IT CAME THE CARPENTER'S UNION HALL.
10:45:07AM TOOK ME TWO ENORMOUS DUMPSTERS TO GET ALL THE MATERIALS
10:45:12AM STACKED IN THE RAFTERS.
10:45:14AM IT WAS JUST AMAZING.
10:45:15AM I DID SAVE SOME OF IT, BY THE WAY.
10:45:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS GOING TO ASK IF YOU SAVED SOME OF IT.
10:45:21AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:45:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU NEED TO DISCLOSE ANY RAVE PARTIES YOU
10:45:27AM WENT TO THERE?
10:45:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCILMAN
10:45:32AM MIRANDA.
10:45:32AM I MIGHT HAVE BEEN AT A COUPLE OF THOSE PARTIES.
10:45:36AM I WASN'T ARRESTED, BUT I WAS AT ONE OF THOSE.
10:45:40AM >> CAN YOU BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL?
10:45:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.
10:45:46AM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:45:49AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:45:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SEEING NONE.
10:45:50AM ANY MEMBERS -- ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHING TO GIVE PUBLIC
10:45:54AM COMMENT ON FILE NUMBER VAC-23-08?
10:46:02AM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:46:03AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:46:05AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:46:06AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:46:07AM FOR YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WILL YOU PLEASE READ
10:46:10AM THIS OFF.
10:46:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEM NUMBER 11, FILE NUMBER VAY-23-08,
10:46:21AM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, VACATING,
10:46:26AM DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF
10:46:30AM HENDERSON AVENUE, SOUTH OF 7th AVENUE, EAST OF FRANKLIN
10:46:35AM STREET AND WEST OF FLORIDA AVENUE WITH THE PLAT OF LIVONIA
10:46:40AM DODDS CLINE SUBDIVISION, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
10:46:46AM RESTRICTIONS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HERE IN.
10:46:48AM PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES
10:46:52AM AND DEFINITIONS AND INTERPRETATIONS, PROVIDING FOR
10:46:59AM SEVERABILITY.
10:46:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED BY
10:47:02AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:47:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:47:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:47:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:47:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:47:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:47:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:47:12AM >>CLERK: SECOND READING MAY 4, 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:47:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:20AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, FILE NUMBER E 2023-8, CHAPTER 2.
10:47:29AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:47:30AM MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:47:32AM JUST TO REMIND COUNCIL, 30 DAYS AGO, PER YOUR MOTION, OUR
10:47:37AM DEPARTMENT AND I DRAFTED A PROPOSED ORDINANCE OF THE
10:47:40AM HONORARY NAMING OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY THAT WILL INCLUDE
10:47:43AM CITY BUILDINGS, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, PARKS, STREETS.
10:47:46AM NOT THE INITIAL NAMES OF STREETS, BUT HONORARY SECONDARY
10:47:52AM NAME OF STREETS AND SIMILAR TYPES OF FACILITIES.
10:47:54AM THAT DRAFT ORDER PROVIDES A UNIFORM CRITERIA APPLIED FOR THE
10:47:59AM REVIEW OF ALL REQUESTS BY PRIVATE PARTIES, MOTIONS MADE BY
10:48:03AM CITY COUNCIL OR ADMINISTRATIVE REQUESTS FOR AN HONORARY
10:48:07AM NAMING.
10:48:08AM AND ALSO PROVIDES THAT CITY COUNCIL BY -- MADE THROUGH -- AS
10:48:13AM LONG AS THAT -- AS LONG AS THAT REQUEST MEETS THE CRITERIA
10:48:16AM IN THE ORDINANCE, THAT AN ORDINANCE WILL COME TO CITY
10:48:19AM COUNCIL AND FOR YOUR APPROVAL, IT DOES NOT NEED TO GO
10:48:22AM THROUGH THE MAYOR AND DIRECTLY GO TO YOU AS AN ORDINANCE.
10:48:26AM SHE WILL HAVE THE SIMILAR PREROGATIVE TO GO THROUGH AN
10:48:30AM EXECUTIVE ORDER PROCESS.
10:48:33AM CRITERIA IS THE SAME.
10:48:35AM THE REVIEW PROCESS IS THE SAME.
10:48:37AM THE REAL ESTATE SERVICES DIVISION IS TASKED WITH DOING THE
10:48:40AM REVIEW.
10:48:40AM BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING IS A CLARIFICATION TO STATE THAT
10:48:44AM BASICALLY THE REAL ESTATE SERVICES DEPARTMENT OR DIVISION
10:48:47AM HAS TO CONDUCT THE APPROPRIATE DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE
10:48:52AM THAT THE CRITERIA IS MET IN THE ORDINANCE.
10:48:55AM ALSO A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS REQUESTED PRIMARILY BY
10:48:58AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THIS, THAT WILL
10:49:01AM INCLUDE ONE OF THE CRITERIA THAT A PERSON THAT WERE HONORING
10:49:05AM IS NOT CONVICTED OF A FELONY OR A CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION.
10:49:09AM AND ALSO THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT HAS BEEN ADDED THAT ANY
10:49:14AM -- WHETHER IT IS A MOTION FROM YOU ALL OR REQUEST FROM THE
10:49:17AM ADMINISTRATION OR SOME PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL THAT THAT REQUEST
10:49:20AM TO NAME CITY PROPERTY AFTER A PERSON OR AN ENTITY OR GROUP
10:49:26AM BE PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S WEB SITE FOR 14 DAYS TO SOLICIT
10:49:31AM ANY PUBLIC COMMENT
10:49:32AM THAT BE PART OF THE REPORT TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE MAYOR
10:49:36AM BEFORE ANY ACTION IS TAKEN ON THE REQUEST.
10:49:40AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER THEY QUESTIONS.
10:49:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:49:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND ONE TO THANK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
10:49:46AM MISS ZELMAN AND MR. MASSEY FOR WORKING ON THIS.
10:49:50AM IT STARTED WITH -- WE MADE A BUNCH OF REQUESTS AND THE MAYOR
10:49:55AM PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE TO GET ADVICE ON WHAT THE CRITERIA
10:49:59AM WILL BE AND BASED ON THE COMMITTEE, AN EXECUTIVE ORDER AND A
10:50:03AM MATCHING ORDINANCE THAT I GUESS CODIFIES THE -- THE
10:50:07AM EXECUTIVE ORDER AND MODIFIES THE EXECUTIVE ORDER AND IT --
10:50:12AM IT GIVES -- EQUAL RIGHTS TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR WITH
10:50:16AM THE STANDARD CRITERIA -- HE THINKS IT IS A VERY FAIR
10:50:20AM DOCUMENT.
10:50:20AM APPRECIATE THE ADMINISTRATION, MAYOR'S OFFICE AND LEGAL FOR
10:50:23AM WORKING THIS OUT.
10:50:24AM I THINK IT WILL A GREAT SOLUTION.
10:50:27AM THANK YOU.
10:50:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
10:50:33AM HEARING NONE.
10:50:33AM ANYONE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO FILE
10:50:36AM NUMBER E 2023-8, CHAPTER 2?
10:50:45AM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:50:46AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:50:48AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:50:49AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:50:52AM MOTION PASSES.
10:50:52AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:50:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:50:55AM ITEM NUMBER 12, FILE NUMBER E 2023-8 --
10:51:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY, A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
10:51:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE TITLE IS ON THE ADDENDUM.
10:51:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. GUDES.
10:51:14AM FILE NUMBER 2023-8, CHAPTER 2.
10:51:19AM SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
10:51:23AM CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE OF ITS CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:51:25AM PERTAINING TO THE NAMING OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY IN HONOR OF
10:51:28AM A PERSON, GROUP OR ENTITY AMENDING CHAPTER 2, ADMINISTRATION
10:51:33AM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE BY ADDING ARTICLE 11 ENTITLED X 1,
10:51:40AM ENTITLED HONORARY NAME OF CITY OWNED PROPERTY WITH SECTION
10:51:45AM 2/826, TITLE AND PURPOSE.
10:51:53AM SECTION 2-828 HONORARY NAMING CRITERIA, SECTION 2/829.
10:52:01AM SECTION 2-830, REVIEW PROCESS.
10:52:04AM SECTION 2-831.
10:52:09AM SECTION 2-832.
10:52:13AM AND SECTION 2-834.
10:52:21AM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCE AND CONFLICT.
10:52:27AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.
10:52:28AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:52:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I AM GOING TO GET YOU SOME WATER, COUNCILMAN
10:52:34AM MIRANDA.
10:52:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEED MORE THAN WATER.
10:52:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:52:40AM AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:52:42AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:52:45AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:52:47AM SORRY, ROLL CALL.
10:52:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:52:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:52:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:52:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:52:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:52:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:52:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:52:57AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:52:59AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION MAY 4, 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
10:53:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:53:04AM I NORMALLY LIKE TO HAVE MOTIONS HELD UNTIL LATER ON UNTIL
10:53:09AM INFORMATION REPORTS; HOWEVER, NOW THAT WE HAVE PUT THIS INTO
10:53:12AM MOTION, THANK YOU BOTH, STAFF AND COUNCIL, FOR MAKING SURE
10:53:17AM THAT WE HAVE THIS IN MOTION AFTER THE WONDERFUL PRESENTATION
10:53:22AM OF CONTRIBUTIONS OF MR. URBANSKI IN JANUARY, I REACHED OUT TO
10:53:28AM STAFF TO REQUEST A HONORARY STREET NAME AND SO WE HAVE
10:53:33AM RECORDS OF ALL OUR REQUESTS.
10:53:34AM I WOULD LIKE TO ENTER MY REQUEST AS A MOTION.
10:53:38AM I MOVE THAT STAFF LOOK INTO THE HONORARY STREET NAMING TO
10:53:42AM RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF MR. JIM URBANSKI TO OUR
10:53:49AM CITY, THE FORMER EDITOR OF THE TRIBUNE.
10:53:55AM AND AREA OF THE TRIBUNE BUILDING AND UNDER STAFF REPORT ON
10:53:58AM JUNE 15.
10:53:59AM I MOVE THAT STAFF LOOK INTO AN HONORARY STREET NAMING OF THE
10:54:04AM CONTRIBUTIONS MR. JIM URBANSKI IN THE AREA OF THE TRIBUNE
10:54:10AM BUILDING AND STAFF REPORT BACK ON JUNE 15.
10:54:12AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ONE CLARIFICATION REGARDING YOUR MOTION,
10:54:16AM PLEASE.
10:54:16AM MAY BE PENDING MOTIONS ON THE CALENDAR.
10:54:18AM NOT SPECIFIC AS YOURS IS, COUNCILMAN CITRO.
10:54:23AM BUT IF WE CAN COMBINE ALL THOSE.
10:54:25AM BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE END UP WITH REPETITIVE MOTIONS THAT ARE
10:54:29AM THE SAME SUBJECT MATTER.
10:54:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL ADD THAT WE INCLUDE ALL OF THOSE FOR
10:54:33AM JUNE 15.
10:54:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION IN CHAIRMAN CITRO.
10:54:37AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:54:38AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:54:39AM OPPOSED?
10:54:40AM ANYTHING ELSE?
10:54:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT'S IT.
10:54:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE -- JUST
10:54:45AM KIDDING.
10:54:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES YOU ARE.
10:54:47AM YOU ARE SUCH A FUNNY GUY.
10:54:48AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR INDULGING ME.
10:54:52AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 123, FILE NUMBER E 2023-8, CHAPTER 19.
10:55:00AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD MORNING, PETTIS-MACKLE FROM
10:55:01AM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENTS.
10:55:02AM I PREPARED THE SPECIFIC ORDINANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 13 ON
10:55:06AM BEHALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT DEPARTMENT.
10:55:10AM MAKING AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 19, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE
10:55:14AM STRUCTURE IN ORDER TO REMOVE THE RENTAL CERTIFICATE LANGUAGE
10:55:17AM IN THE CHAPTER 19 PROVISION.
10:55:19AM AND MISS WYNN IS PRESENT FROM STAFF IF YOU HAVE ANY
10:55:23AM QUESTIONS FOR HER.
10:55:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF?
10:55:26AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
10:55:32AM THANK YOU.
10:55:32AM ANYONE IN CHAMBER WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
10:55:36AM 13, FILE NUMBER E 2023-8, CHAPTER 19.
10:55:42AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:55:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
10:55:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:55:48AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:55:49AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:55:50AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:55:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT.
10:55:55AM E 2023-8, CHAPTER 19.
10:55:59AM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO THE
10:56:03AM RENTAL CERTIFICATE PROGRAM, MAKING REVISIONS OF CITY OF
10:56:06AM TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 19, PROPERTY MAINTENANCE
10:56:09AM AND STRUCTURAL STANDARDS, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES, PARTS OF
10:56:13AM ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING A
10:56:16AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:56:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:56:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
10:56:21AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:56:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS
10:56:24AM FOR A LONG TIME.
10:56:25AM I -- I AM A PROPONENT OF RENTAL CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS SO I AM
10:56:34AM NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THIS.
10:56:35AM IT IS REALLY HARD TO BRING SOMETHING BACK ONCE YOU GET RID
10:56:39AM OF IT.
10:56:39AM SO I -- I THINK -- I THINK THAT WE COULD HAVE MOVED IN TO
10:56:44AM SOMETHING.
10:56:44AM BUT I UNDER STAND IT WAS IN THE WORKS WAY BEFORE I JOINED
10:56:47AM COUNCIL.
10:56:48AM SO I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.
10:56:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:56:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S COMMENTS
10:56:56AM REGARDING THIS ORDER CONTINUES INTO.
10:56:57AM CHANGING OF THE ORDINANCE ANYWAY.
10:56:59AM BUT GOING BACK FOUR MAYORS, THEY HAVE BEEN COLLECTING THIS
10:57:04AM RENTAL CERTIFICATE.
10:57:05AM WHEN YOU COLLECT MONEY FROM THE TAXPAYERS, NO MATTER WHAT IT
10:57:09AM IS, A PENNY OR THOUSAND DOLLARS, YOU HAVE TO GIVE A SERVICE.
10:57:14AM THIS CASE, THERE WAS NO SERVICE.
10:57:15AM IT WAS JUST A TAX BASED ON YOUR RENTAL CERTIFICATE.
10:57:19AM AND ADMINISTRATIVE GUYS AND OTHER
10:57:25AM ISSUES THAT CAME UP.
10:57:26AM I AM NOT SPEAKING THAT THIS IS PURELY A CORRECTION OF THIS
10:57:32AM THING.
10:57:32AM SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE OR FOUR MAYORS IN
10:57:35AM THE PAST.
10:57:36AM WHAT IT DOES IS COLLECT MONEY WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT DOING
10:57:39AM ANY PROCESS FOR OR BETTERMENT OF SOCIETY.
10:57:44AM NEVER A RENTAL INSPECTION THAT I KNOW OF ON ALL THE ONES
10:57:47AM THAT BE I KNOW PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEM.
10:57:50AM INCLUDING MYSELF.
10:57:51AM I HAVE A TRUST THAT DOES THAT OR A TRUST THAT RUNS ME, ONE
10:57:56AM OF THE TWO.
10:57:56AM THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED.
10:57:58AM I AM NOT AGAINST TAXATION.
10:58:00AM IF YOU WANT TO SEE A MODEL OF TAXATION WITHOUT
10:58:03AM REPRESENTATION, IS THIS IS IT.
10:58:04AM AND I CHALLENGE THE PUBLIC OR THE ADMINISTRATION OF ANY ONE
10:58:08AM OF THE PAST THREE MAYORS TO COME UP AND SAY THAT THEY HAVE
10:58:11AM DONE ONE THING AND ONE INSPECTION OF A RENTAL UNIT.
10:58:15AM WHAT HAPPENED HERE WE HAVE A REGRESSIVE AND PROGRESSIVE.
10:58:26AM INSTEAD OF FINDING THE REAL FACTS WHAT IS GOING ON
10:58:29AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, THERE ARE
10:58:31AM INDIVIDUALS WHO BUY A HOUSE AND THEY HAVE FOUR NAMES AND BUY
10:58:36AM A HOUSE UNDER ONE NAME.
10:58:38AM ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY BUY A HOUSE IN ANOTHER NAME AND ONE OF
10:58:43AM THE PARTIES LEFT OUT.
10:58:44AM ALL PROBABILITIES AND POSSIBILITIES THAT HAPPEN.
10:58:46AM SO NO ONE THAT I KNOW OF VERIFIES ALL WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:58:50AM HOWEVER, WHEN THEY RENT THE PROPERTY OUT, THE HOUSE NEXT
10:58:54AM DOOR TO YOU IS PAYING NO ADDITIONAL TAX, JUST A BASIC TAX
10:59:00AM AND SOMEBODY IS TAKING MORE THAN LIKELY THE HOMESTEAD
10:59:03AM EXEMPTION WITH IT.
10:59:04AM THESE ARE THINGS GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE CITY MAINLY IN TWO
10:59:07AM DISTRICTS, 5 AND 6, WITHOUT ANYONE AT THE REPORTING IT TO
10:59:14AM ANYONE.
10:59:14AM SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE PROPERTY OWNER X AND Y HOUSE.
10:59:18AM AN X HOUSE NEXT TO A Y HOUSE.
10:59:20AM X HOUSE IS PAYING $400 AND $500 IN RENTAL AND HAS NOTHING TO
10:59:27AM DO -- SHOULD HAVE TO DO WITH PAYING YOUR TAXES WHEN YOU HAVE
10:59:31AM RENTAL PROPERTY.
10:59:31AM Y HOUSE NEXT TO THE X HOUSE.
10:59:35AM I AM NOT TRYING TO CONFUSE YOU BUT DELINEATE THE TWO HOUSES.
10:59:39AM THAT HOUSE, THE FIRST THING THAT HAPPENINGS, YOU GET WHAT,
10:59:43AM SOLD.
10:59:43AM THE OTHER A FENCE AROUND IT.
10:59:45AM THE NEXT THING YOU GET, WHAT?
10:59:48AM A CHANGE OF VENUE OF THAT HOUSE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO PROFIT
10:59:52AM MAKING RENTAL.
10:59:53AM SOME OF THEM ARE MADE RIGHT NEXT TO THEN'S HOUSE.
10:59:58AM AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, I CAN SHOW YOU 100 OF THEM
11:00:01AM BECAUSE ONE OR TWO ADMINISTRATIONS IN THE PAST, I THINK THEY
11:00:05AM REALIZED THE PROBLEM STAND A STUDY OF 121, I BELIEVE IT WAS,
11:00:10AM HOUSES IN A SMALL AREA IN A GEOGRAPHICAL MEMBER OF THE CITY.
11:00:17AM AND NO ADMINISTRATION HAD THE COURAGE TO TRY TO CHANGE WHAT
11:00:20AM HAPPENED.
11:00:20AM SO THE SCHOOL BOARD NEEDS MONEY.
11:00:24AM EVERY GOVERNMENT NEEDS MONEY.
11:00:26AM THERE ARE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS LEFT ON THE TABLE BECAUSE WE
11:00:30AM DO NOT DO THE RIGHT THING AND MAKE EVERYONE QUALIFIED UNDER
11:00:33AM THE SAME SECTION.
11:00:34AM WHEN YOU APPLY AND YOU TURN IN YOUR TAXES TO THE FEDERAL
11:00:38AM GOVERNMENT, THE IRS, THEY AT LEAST LOOK AT IT AND TELL YOU
11:00:44AM DID THE RIGHT THING OR THE WRONG THING AND YOU COME TO SOME
11:00:47AM AGREEMENT.
11:00:47AM IN THIS CASE, ALWAYS THE WRONG THING WITHOUT NO ONE DOING
11:00:51AM ANYTHING TO SUFFICE THE SITUATION THAT WE HAVE.
11:00:54AM WE CERTAINLY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY THERE.
11:00:57AM IT WAS COLLECTED.
11:00:58AM WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS -- NOTICE I SAID
11:01:03AM SOME OF THE PROBLEMS.
11:01:03AM YOU ARE NOT GOING TO ALLEVIATE ALL OF THEM.
11:01:06AM BUT THIS CITY, THIS COUNTY, AND THIS SCHOOL BOARD OUGHT TO
11:01:10AM GET TOGETHER TO FILED OUT WHAT IS CONTINUING ON SO THOSE
11:01:13AM FUNDS CAN BE DELINEATED TO SOMETHING USEFUL FOR SOCIETY.
11:01:17AM I WILL USE THE EXAMPLE FOR -- CERTAINLY YOU HEARD ABOUT
11:01:21AM TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, WORKFORCE HOUSING.
11:01:24AM THIS IS A GOOD USE FOR THAT?
11:01:28AM POSSIBLY.
11:01:28AM THE SCHOOL BOARD NEEDS ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR A LOT MORE
11:01:32AM THINGS.
11:01:33AM THE COUNTY NEEDS FUNDS FOR THE SAME THING WE ARE ASKING FOR.
11:01:36AM BUT NO ONE WITH GOING OUT TO MAKE A CONCERTED EFFORT TO
11:01:41AM CELEBRATE THESE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE.
11:01:42AM THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT IS THERE.
11:01:44AM IT IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.
11:01:46AM IT IS ONLY GOING TO EXACERBATE THE SITUATION FURTHER AND
11:01:50AM LONGER AND YOU HAVE MORE HOUSES THAT YOU THINK ARE
11:01:53AM RESIDENTIAL THAT ARE NOT RESIDENTIAL.
11:01:54AM THEY ARE COMMERCIALLY USED FOR RENTAL PROPERTIES.
11:01:58AM AND THERE IS NO TAX BEING COLLECTED ON THE AD VALOREM SIDE
11:02:05AM ON THE RENTAL PROPERTY.
11:02:06AM I REST MY CASE FOR THAT.
11:02:08AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:02:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:02:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS -- FOR ME, THIS
11:02:16AM DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH TAXATION.
11:02:18AM I BELIEVE THE FEE FOR THAT STOPPED YEARS AGO BECAUSE ALL YOU
11:02:24AM HAD TO REALLY DO WAS GO IN AND SAY YOU HAD A RENTAL HOUSE.
11:02:27AM THERE WAS NO FEE ATTACHED, AT LEAST ONCE I STARTED BECOMING
11:02:31AM A LANDLORD IN THE CITY.
11:02:33AM I WAS EXPECTING A FEE, AND I DIDN'T HAVE ONE.
11:02:36AM TO ME, THIS DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH TAXATION.
11:02:38AM THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT I THINK THAT RENTAL
11:02:43AM CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS WHEN DONE CORRECTLY ARE A GOOD THING.
11:02:47AM AND THIS -- OBVIOUSLY IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY WEREN'T DOING WHAT
11:02:52AM THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.
11:02:54AM I STILL THINK THEY COULD BE A POSITIVE FOR THE CITY.
11:02:57AM SO THANK YOU.
11:02:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
11:03:03AM THANK YOU.
11:03:03AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:03:04AM I THOUGHT COUNCILMAN GUDES DID.
11:03:10AM HE DID.
11:03:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST MAKING SURE.
11:03:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:03:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:03:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:03:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:03:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
11:03:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:03:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:03:21AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTE NOTHING.
11:03:24AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION MAY 4, 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
11:03:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:03:30AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14, FILE NUMBER E 2023-8, CHAPTERS 23 AND
11:03:35AM 27.
11:03:36AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, CAMARIA
11:03:38AM PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:03:39AM I PREPARED THE SPECIFIC ORDINANCE ASSOCIATE WAD ITEM NUMBER
11:03:43AM 14 ON BEHALF OF THE ZONING DEPARTMENT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:03:46AM ENHANCEMENT DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL TOOL FOR THE
11:03:50AM DEPARTMENTS TO ENFORCE VIOLATIONS OF CODE SECTIONS 27-289.7.
11:03:57AM CURRENTLY, THE DEPARTMENTS ARE ONLY ABLE TO USE A NOTICE OF
11:04:01AM VIOLATION THAT IS HEARD BEFORE A CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL
11:04:06AM MASTER TO ADDRESS THOSE VIOLATIONS.
11:04:08AM THE DEPARTMENTS WOULD LIKE AN ADDITIONAL TOOL WITH THE
11:04:11AM ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE CITATIONS TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS
11:04:15AM WHO MAY HAVE BEEN VIOLATING THIS CODE SECTION.
11:04:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:04:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND WHAT EXACTLY DOES THIS CODE SECTION DO?
11:04:24AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THIS CODE SECTION AS -- AND I CAN
11:04:27AM PROVIDE IT ON THE ELMO.
11:04:29AM THIS IS --
11:04:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST SO THE PUBLIC IS AWARE.
11:04:36AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: 269.87.
11:04:40AM PROHIBITED SIGNS.
11:04:42AM AND EXAMPLE OF PROHIBITED SIGN IS A FLAG OR SIGN AS
11:04:47AM ENUMERATED.
11:04:48AM THAT IS ACCORDING TO THE CHART IN CODE SECTION 27-289.7.
11:04:54AM I AM GIVING YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IS PROHIBITED IN THE
11:04:58AM CODE.
11:04:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY.
11:04:59AM I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING UP ON OUR MONITORS.
11:05:02AM THANK YOU.
11:05:02AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THIS IS A LIST OF EXAMPLES OF SIGNS
11:05:13AM PROHIBITED BUT CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW.
11:05:15AM THE DEPARTMENTS ONLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ISSUE NOTICES OF
11:05:19AM VIOLATIONS.
11:05:19AM CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, THE DEPARTMENTS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE
11:05:23AM THE ABILITY TO ISSUE CITATIONS AND WHAT THIS ORDINANCE WILL
11:05:28AM ALLOW THEM TO DO.
11:05:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:05:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL HAVE TO SAY I THINK FOLKS WILL BE
11:05:46AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE SNIPE SIGN.
11:05:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
11:05:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST -- I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WHAT WAS
11:05:58AM SAID.
11:05:58AM SOMETIMES YOU DRIVE BY A NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT IS NICE AND
11:06:02AM PEACEFUL, AS FAR AS SIGNS THAT YOU SEE THAT ARE -- WHEN YOUR
11:06:05AM EYES HIT THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG
11:06:09AM SOMEWHERE, BECAUSE ALL YOU SEE IS -- ANIMAL FOR SALE OR BIRD
11:06:13AM FOR SALE OR DO THIS.
11:06:14AM AND WE HAVE -- AND I KNOW THERE IS A REGULATION REGARDING
11:06:19AM WHEN YOU HAVE A YARD SALE.
11:06:20AM I THINK I HAVE -- IF I REMEMBER, YOU CAN HAVE THREE A YEAR.
11:06:23AM I AM NOT SURE.
11:06:24AM BUT SOMETIMES THEY DO THREE A MONTH.
11:06:26AM AND THOSE THINGS ARE WELL WHEN YOU GO WITHIN THE LAW.
11:06:32AM YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO IT RIGHT.
11:06:34AM WHEN YOU START DOING IT ON A WEEKLY BASIS, IT SORT OF
11:06:38AM DEVALUES THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S VALUE AND IT BECAME A NUISANCE
11:06:41AM OF CARS COMING IN AND OUT AT ALL TIMES OF THE DAY AND
11:06:44AM SOMETIMES INTO THE NIGHT.
11:06:45AM SO I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THE
11:06:50AM ADMINISTRATION IS MAKING TO SUBJECT SOME OF THESE THINGS
11:06:53AM JUST BE BANNED.
11:06:55AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:06:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:06:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU IMMEDIATELY FIND SOMEONE?
11:07:04AM OR WOULD IT -- WOULD IT BE A WARNING AND THEN A FINE.
11:07:08AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT PROCESS IS DETERMINED BY THE
11:07:12AM CODE, BUT THE DEPARTMENT WILL UTILIZE DIFFERENT RESOURCES A
11:07:17AM WARNING TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO REMOVE THE SIGN AND A
11:07:19AM PROHIBITION ACCORDING TO THE CODE AND INITIATING A CITATION
11:07:23AM WILL BE UP FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
11:07:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE I HAVE TO SAY.
11:07:26AM I CAN SEE THE SNIPE SIGNS ATTACHED TO TELEPHONE POLES,
11:07:30AM UTILITY POLES, THAT SORT OF THING.
11:07:32AM BUT PEOPLE REALLY DON'T UNDER STAND WHERE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
11:07:35AM IS.
11:07:36AM SO I AM CONCERNED THAT SOME MAY PUT A SIGN IN THEIR YARD,
11:07:43AM PER SE, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GET THE FINE AND DIDN'T KNOW
11:07:49AM THAT THE FRONT YARD IS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:07:52AM WE HAVE THAT ALL THE TIME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:07:54AM AND I HEARD THAT ALL THROUGHOUT THIS ELECTION CYCLE OF, HEY,
11:07:58AM THERE ARE SIGNS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:08:01AM SO HOW DO WE -- HOW ARE WE GOING TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC
11:08:05AM BEFORE WE START GIVING CITATIONS?
11:08:08AM OTHERWISE, WE WILL HAVE A FLOOD OF PEOPLE COMING TO CITY
11:08:12AM HALL.
11:08:12AM YARD SALES, THE WHOLE THING.
11:08:15AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.
11:08:17AM OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO INITIATE A
11:08:21AM EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT WITH THIS MATTER, AND I AM SURE THE
11:08:25AM DEPARTMENT WILL DO THAT ALONG WITH ANY ENFORCEMENT IS TO EDUCATE
11:08:28AM THE COMMUNITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD REGARDING ANY NEW
11:08:31AM PROVISIONS THEY ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS.
11:08:33AM I AM SURE THE DEPARTMENT WILL DEFENSE ANY OF THE UTILIZE
11:08:42AM THAT AS A EDUCATIONAL TOOL.
11:08:45AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN'T SUPPORT SOMETHING RIGHT NOW WHEN
11:08:48AM THE COMMUNITY HAVEN'T BEEN EDUCATED.
11:08:50AM IF WE PASS THIS AND WE START GOING -- THE DEPARTMENT GOES
11:08:53AM OUT TOMORROW.
11:08:53AM SHE IS RIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO GET AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE -- WE
11:08:57AM NEED TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE FIRST.
11:08:59AM NUMBER TWO, ANOTHER THING I SEE WITH THESE SIGNS, YOU KNOW,
11:09:04AM THEY ARE ALL OVER THE POLES AND THE COMMUNITY AND EYESORES,
11:09:09AM BUT SOMETIMES WHAT THEY CALL RUNNERS.
11:09:13AM ACTUAL PRINTING COMPANIES AND BUSINESSES THAT EMPLOY THESE
11:09:17AM RUNNERS TO GO OUT THERE AND PUT THESE SIGNS UP.
11:09:20AM HOW DO WE CITE -- WHO DO WE CITE?
11:09:23AM YOU GET A YOUNG KID AND TRYING TO MAKE A COUPLE OF BUCKS.
11:09:26AM GO PUT SIGNS UP.
11:09:27AM DO WE GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PEOPLE MAKING THE SIGNS TO PUT
11:09:34AM THE SIGNS UP.
11:09:35AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ONE THING I WANT COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF
11:09:37AM WHEN DEBATING THE ISSUE, PROHIBITED SIGNS HAVE BEEN ON ITS
11:09:42AM BOOKS FOR YEARS.
11:09:43AM NOT A NEW BRAND-NEW REQUIREMENT THAT YOU CAN'T DO THIS.
11:09:46AM WE HAVE BEEN ENFORCING THE CODE.
11:09:48AM THIS IS JUST MERELY ANOTHER MECHANISM TO ENFORCE THE CODE.
11:09:52AM I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN
11:09:54AM IF YOU WANTED TO WE CAN DELAY THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND COME
11:09:57AM BACK WITH A DELAYED EFFECTIVE DATE SO THERE COULD BE SOME
11:10:00AM EDUCATION, BUT JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, THIS LIST OF PROHIBITED
11:10:07AM SIGNS HAVE BEEN IN THE CODE SINCE I HAVE BEEN HERE 20 YEARS
11:10:11AM AGO.
11:10:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY, I TOTALLY AGREE AND WITH TIME,
11:10:15AM PEOPLE HAVE DIED, NEW PEOPLE ARE BORN.
11:10:17AM PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THE RULES.
11:10:20AM I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT PEOPLE DON'T
11:10:24AM KNOW TO KNOW.
11:10:24AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THE DEPARTMENT -- COUNCILMAN GUDES,
11:10:27AM JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE, THE DEPARTMENT ALREADY ISSUES
11:10:31AM NOTICES OF VIOLATIONS REGARDING VIOLATIONS OF THIS CODE.
11:10:36AM THEY ARE HEARD BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE
11:10:39AM RIGHT NOW.
11:10:40AM I HAVE STATISTICS OF THE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS ISSUE FOR THIS
11:10:44AM CODE SECTION ALONE FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.
11:10:47AM THIS IS PROVIDING ANOTHER TOOL FOR THE DEPTH TO ENFORCE THIS
11:10:52AM CODE.
11:10:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:10:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK I WOULD BE MORE IN SUPPORT OF THIS IF
11:10:59AM THERE WAS A DELINEATION OF THE FIRST TIME YOU ARE GOING TO
11:11:03AM GET A WARNING.
11:11:04AM THE SECOND TIME YOU CAN GET A FINE.
11:11:06AM BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE COMING
11:11:10AM WHO JUST DON'T KNOW.
11:11:12AM AND IF YOU LEAVE IT UP TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
11:11:17AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S -- THAT IT IS EQUAL
11:11:22AM THROUGHOUT.
11:11:22AM THAT IT IS BEING USED IN THE SAME WAY.
11:11:26AM SO I THINK THAT IT IS -- I -- I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE IDEA
11:11:31AM OF A CITATION.
11:11:32AM I JUST -- I DON'T AGREE WITH IT BEING -- IT BEING JUST UP TO
11:11:43AM THE OFFICER TO DECIDE IF THE PERSON GETS A WARNING OR
11:11:46AM VIOLATION.
11:11:46AM I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WARNING FIRST.
11:11:49AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THE PROCESS FOR ADDRESSING THIS
11:11:53AM VIOLATION THAT IS ALREADY IN THE CODE, AGAIN, THIS IS UP TO
11:11:58AM THE DEPARTMENT TO DETERMINE THE PROCESS OF TALKING TO THE
11:12:01AM RESPONDENT.
11:12:02AM EDUCATING THE RESPONDENT.
11:12:04AM KIND OF SIDING AFTER THAT EDUCATION COMPONENT IF THE VIOLATION
11:12:10AM STILL EXISTS.
11:12:11AM UP FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO SAY THE CITATION IS GOING TO BE
11:12:14AM ISSUED OR NOTICE OF VIOLATION WILL BE ISSUED.
11:12:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE, BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS, IT SHOULD
11:12:21AM BE A REQUIREMENT THAT THAT NOTIFICATION HAPPENING FIRST.
11:12:25AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE OTHER THING SO THAT COUNCIL IS AWARE,
11:12:28AM WITH THE DEPARTMENT ISSUES THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
11:12:32AM THAT CAN BE CONTESTED.
11:12:33AM NOT AN AUTOMATIC, YOU HAVE TO PAY.
11:12:36AM THAT CAN BE CONTESTED IN THE COURT.
11:12:38AM THE CIVIL CITATION.
11:12:40AM THE CIVIL PROCESS.
11:12:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS AND
11:12:46AM THEY CAN CONTEST IT.
11:12:47AM WE ARE ADDING A LAYER OF BUREAUCRACY.
11:12:50AM IF WE SIMPLY GIVE A WARNING FIRST AND THEN THE SECOND TIME
11:12:56AM --
11:12:57AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS
11:13:00AM AMENDING OTHER SECTIONS OF THE CODE AND WE WILL HAVE TO COME
11:13:04AM BACK AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
11:13:05AM THE CIVIL CITATION PROCESS HAS BEEN IN EFFECT FOR A LONG
11:13:08AM PERIOD OF TIME IN THE CITY AND PROCESS BY WHICH WE HAVE BEEN
11:13:12AM ABLE TO ADDRESS CODE ENFORCEMENT WITHOUT TAKING UP THE CODE
11:13:16AM ENFORCEMENT PROCESS FAIRLY SIMPLE VIOLATIONS ON THEIR FACE
11:13:24AM SO THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED.
11:13:25AM I THINK WHAT THE DEPARTMENT TRIES TO DO TO EDUCATE AND GIVE
11:13:30AM WARNINGS.
11:13:30AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS MANDATED IN THE CODE.
11:13:33AM WE WILL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.
11:13:35AM IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
11:13:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN CERTAIN LEAP TURN THIS INTO A
11:13:42AM WORKSHOP.
11:13:42AM I THINK OVERALL THE IDEA IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE
11:13:46AM SURE THAT WE ARE NOT CREATING MORE HEADACHES FOR THE PUBLIC.
11:13:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:13:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ARE WE PRESSED FOR TIME ON THIS?
11:14:02AM CAN THIS BE SET FOR A WORKSHOP UNTIL SOME OF THE QUESTIONS
11:14:05AM ARE ANSWERED FOR COUNCIL?
11:14:07AM BECAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ALL THE
11:14:09AM QUESTIONS.
11:14:09AM SEEMS SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
11:14:12AM IS THIS ORDINANCE PRESSED FOR TIME WITH THE DEPARTMENTS?
11:14:15AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NO, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:14:22AM I SEE MISS WYNN.
11:14:27AM >>OCEA WYNN: I WOULD ADVISE THAT YOU DO A WORKSHOP SO WE CAN
11:14:32AM SEE WHAT THE CURRENT PROCESS IS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
11:14:34AM THE STEPS THAT ARE TAKEN BEFORE ACTUALLY WE ISSUE A NOTICE
11:14:38AM OF VIOLATION AND BEFORE IT GOES TO THE MAGISTRATE.
11:14:41AM SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW CRITICAL AND IMPORTANT IT IS
11:14:44AM THAT WE HAVE THIS -- THIS IS INTERIM PIECE IN PLACE.
11:14:49AM SO, YES.
11:14:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
11:14:51AM AND I WOULD 100% AGREE.
11:14:54AM AND I THINK IT IS -- IT IS FOR OUR EDIFICATION, BUT ALSO
11:14:57AM COULD BE GREAT FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THAT BEFORE WE PUT THIS
11:15:03AM INTO EFFECT BECAUSE SIGNS ARE JUST SOMETHING THAT ARE.
11:15:07AM I MEAN, IT IS A HUGE PROBLEM, BUT ALSO SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE
11:15:10AM WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO CORRECTLY.
11:15:12AM SO I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:15:18AM SO -- DO WE HAVE A FREE WORKSHOP?
11:15:24AM THE 27th A -- IS ALL THE HOUSING.
11:15:28AM HOW -- IS -- IS MAY TOO SOON?
11:15:37AM >>OCEA WYNN: WHAT DATE IN MAY?
11:15:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAY 25.
11:15:40AM >>OCEA WYNN: MAY 25 SHOULD WORK.
11:15:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ONLY THING YOU ADDED WAS EVERYTHING
11:15:46AM RELATED TO PURE AND WASTEWATER.
11:15:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, PURE AND WASTEWATER.
11:15:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND ONE OTHER ITEM.
11:15:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF IT TURNS OUT IT IS A PROBLEM EITHER FOR
11:15:56AM TOO MANY THINGS OR IF YOU NEED MORE TIME, I THINK WE CAN --
11:15:59AM JUST LET US KNOW.
11:16:00AM >>OCEA WYNN: THAT I WILL.
11:16:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE ITEM NUMBER 14
11:16:07AM AND TURN IT INTO A WORKSHOP ITEM AGENDA FOR MAY 25.
11:16:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
11:16:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO TAKE
11:16:17AM FILE NUMBER E 2023-23 AND 27 TO BE UNTIL MAY 25 WORKSHOP
11:16:30AM DATE.
11:16:31AM WE HAVE A SECOND BE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:16:33AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:16:35AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:16:37AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:16:38AM IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT?
11:16:44AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:16:46AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:16:49AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:16:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD -- EXCUSE ME.
11:16:52AM I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A COMPANION MOTION TO HAVE MISS WYNN AND
11:17:00AM CODE ENFORCEMENT COME BEFORE US JUST BEFORE OR AFTER THAT
11:17:05AM DISCUSSION TO TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT STATUS OF ENFORCEMENT
11:17:09AM OF THE CODE AND WHERE THE FINES ARE GOING.
11:17:12AM THAT IS FOR ALL CODE, NOT JUST THIS -- SIGNS.
11:17:20AM TO THE POINT THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MADE EARLIER ABOUT THE
11:17:26AM RENT -- RENTAL CERTIFICATES.
11:17:29AM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL, BUT I AM GETTING COMPLAINTS
11:17:31AM EVERY DAY OF CODE VIOLATIONS.
11:17:33AM PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IF -- PEOPLE ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THINGS
11:17:37AM AREN'T BEING ENFORCED.
11:17:40AM FINES ARE NOT BEING AGAIN.
11:17:42AM WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME THREE OR FOUR YEARS AGO TO INCREASE
11:17:45AM THE FINE FOR PUSHING LEAVES INTO THE STREET BECAUSE THEY
11:17:48AM BLOCK THE -- THE STORM TRAINS AND EVERYWHERE I GO NOW, THEY
11:17:53AM ARE PUSHING INTO IT AGAIN.
11:17:54AM IN GENERAL, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AS A COMPANION
11:18:00AM WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT.
11:18:01AM AND SECONDLY, WHERE DO THE FINES GO IF -- TO -- TO
11:18:06AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S POINT, IF THERE IS SUPPOSED TO BE A
11:18:09AM SERVICE PROVIDED THE MONEY FOR THOSE FINES IN THEORY WILL GO
11:18:13AM TOWARD CODE ENFORCEMENT OF THE ISSUES.
11:18:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
11:18:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE AND WE CAN ANSWER THAT.
11:18:21AM THAT IS A FINE THAT I SUSPECT IS DIFFERENT THAN A FEE FOR A
11:18:24AM RENTAL CERTIFICATE.
11:18:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT A RENTAL CERTIFICATE.
11:18:29AM I WANT AN UPDATE ON ALL CODE ENFORCEMENT AND
11:18:33AM WHERE THE FEES ARE GOING.
11:18:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
11:18:35AM AND JUST -- I THINK THAT WILL BE HELPFUL FOR COUNCIL
11:18:38AM ESPECIALLY IN THE NEW TERM, BECAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES,
11:18:41AM AGAIN, RELATIVE TO CODES ENFORCEMENT, THE FACT THAT STATE
11:18:46AM LEGISLATOR REQUIRE THAT THEY CAN NO LONGER BE ANONYMOUS AND
11:18:51AM PEOPLE HAVE TO GIVE THEIR NAMES AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT
11:18:54AM COULD VERY WELL HAVE AN EFFECT ON PEOPLE'S ABILITY AND
11:18:57AM WILLINGNESS TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:19:00AM THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO DISCUSS
11:19:03AM THAT.
11:19:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:19:04AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF I RECALL, IT WAS IN 2020, I ASKED FOR
11:19:07AM CODE TO COME AND EXPLAIN WHERE THAT MONEY GOES.
11:19:11AM BECAUSE I WANTED THAT MONEY -- IF YOU WERE GIVING VIOLATIONS
11:19:16AM TO HOUSING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHY WASN'T THAT MONEY GOING
11:19:19AM INTO A HOUSING FUND.
11:19:20AM REMEMBER THAT?
11:19:23AM I BELIEVE I WAS TOLD THAT THE MONEY THAT -- THAT THEY ARE
11:19:27AM COLLECTING IN FINES OR WHAT HAVE YOU GOES TO SUPPORT OR
11:19:32AM ALLOCATE SLOTS FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT.
11:19:35AM I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE ANSWER THAT HE WAS GIVEN.
11:19:39AM NOW IT HAS BEEN A WHILE, BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING, WELL, IF
11:19:43AM CODE IS DOING VIOLATIONS ON HOUSES AND COLLECTING GUYS,
11:19:47AM THOSE GUYS SHOULD BE GOING INTO HOUSING TRUST TO HELP WITH
11:19:51AM THE HOUSING CRISIS -- THE HOUSING SITUATION.
11:19:54AM SUPPORT THAT, MR. CARLSON, TO FIND OUT WHERE THOSE DOLLARS
11:20:01AM ARE ACTUALLY BEING SPENT.
11:20:02AM IF IT IS FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT OR WHERE DOES
11:20:06AM THAT GO IN LIEU OF THEIR DEPARTMENT.
11:20:10AM MAYBE TIME TO REVISIT AGAIN.
11:20:12AM BUT AS I RECALL, ASKED ABOUT IT IN 2020.
11:20:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS WYNN.
11:20:18AM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
11:20:21AM I AM ASKING IF YOU ARE ASKING US TO COME BACK, IF WE COME
11:20:24AM BACK AFTER THE WORKSHOP, BECAUSE THING THERE ARE MORE ITEMS
11:20:27AM THAT MAY ARISE.
11:20:28AM AND THEN WE CAN TO HE COULD US ON THE MOTION A LITTLE BIT
11:20:32AM MORE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING YOU WITH THE
11:20:35AM INFORMATION THAT YOU ARE REQUESTING
11:20:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ARE SAYING THE NEXT WORKSHOP INSTEAD OF
11:20:41AM MAY 25.
11:20:42AM >>OCEA WYNN: NO, SIR.
11:20:43AM WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT YOU -- I THOUGHT I HEARD YOUR
11:20:47AM MOTION TO SAY THAT WE COME BEFORE OR AFTER THE WORKSHOP.
11:20:52AM I WOULD RATHER DO IT AFTER THE WORKSHOP IN CASE THERE ARE
11:20:55AM THINGS THAT COME THROUGH IN THE WORKSHOP THAT WE CAN ADDRESS
11:20:58AM AT THAT POINT IN TIME, AS WELL AS WE CAN HONE IN A LITTLE
11:21:02AM BIT MORE ON THE REQUEST BECAUSE IT IS SOMEWHAT GENERAL.
11:21:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY MOTION WAS TO HAVE -- I WILL CLARIFY IT
11:21:13AM BASED ON WHAT SHE SAID.
11:21:15AM TO ASK MISS WYNN AND CODE ENFORCEMENT TO COME AFTER THE
11:21:20AM DISCUSSION ON -- ON THE PREVIOUS CODE ISSUES TO -- AT THE
11:21:25AM MAY 25 WORKSHOP TO -- TO DISCUSS CODE ENFORCEMENT IN
11:21:30AM GENERAL.
11:21:31AM AND WHERE THE -- WHERE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT FINES ARE GOING.
11:21:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE A SECOND?
11:21:39AM >> SECOND.
11:21:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:21:43AM SECOND BY HE COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:21:45AM ANY DISCUSSION?
11:21:46AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:21:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I UNDERSTAND YOU ASKING TO COME ON A
11:21:49AM DIFFERENT DATE, THAT'S CORRECT?
11:21:52AM >>OCEA WYNN: NO, MA'AM.
11:21:54AM TWO DATES.
11:21:54AM FIRST THE WORKSHOP ON THE 25th OF MAY.
11:21:57AM AND THEN TO ADDRESS COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION AFTER THAT
11:22:02AM IN CASE THERE ARE THINGS THAT COME UP ON THE 25th.
11:22:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS WHAT I HEARD.
11:22:07AM SO I AM GOING TO RECOMMEND IF I CAN AMEND YOUR MOTION, THE
11:22:11AM NEXT -- THE GOOD ONE WILL BE AUGUST 31 WORKSHOP SESSION.
11:22:15AM WE DON'T HAVE A WORKSHOP IN JULY.
11:22:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU MEAN ON THE SAME DAY.
11:22:23AM >>OCEA WYNN: GIVE US TIME IN CASE SOME THINGS COME UP.
11:22:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE A WORKSHOP IN JULY.
11:22:28AM WE COULD DO JUNE IF THAT IS ENOUGH TIME.
11:22:31AM >>OCEA WYNN: JUNE SHOULD BE ENOUGH TIME.
11:22:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUNE 22 HE.
11:22:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: MODIFY MY MOTION TO COME BACK ON JUNE 22.
11:22:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM AMENABLE.
11:22:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:22:44AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:22:47AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:22:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A WAGON THAT A HORSE CAN'T PULL IT.
11:22:53AM BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS YOU CAN ADD TO THIS WORKSHOP.
11:22:57AM A COUPLE OF THEM IN HIT MY MIND VERY QUICKLY.
11:23:00AM THE VIOLATION ON A HOUSE -- IT IS GETTING MORE AND MORE
11:23:05AM PREVALENT.
11:23:06AM YOU SEE IT EVERY WEEK.
11:23:08AM SOMEONE BUYS A HOUSE AND A SECOND OR THIRD OWNER.
11:23:10AM A SECOND OR THIRD OWNER WHATEVER.
11:23:14AM AND GETS CITED FOR SOMETHING THAT THE ORIGINAL OWNER DID 15
11:23:17AM YEARS AGO OR FIVE YEARS AGO.
11:23:18AM AND WE HAVE TO GET -- HE BELIEVE IN MY JUDGMENT GET THE
11:23:23AM BOARD OF REALTORS INVOLVED AT THE TIME THEY MAKE A SALE.
11:23:27AM WE DON'T RECORD EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS.
11:23:30AM WE JUST -- AND I GO BACK TO THE SWALES ON A HOUSE 25 YEARS
11:23:36AM AGO, 20 YEARS AGO.
11:23:38AM SOMEBODY COMES HERE WITH THEIR LOVELY WIFE AND WANT TO BUY A
11:23:42AM HOUSE.
11:23:42AM THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE DRAINAGE WAS SWALED AT THE TIME.
11:23:47AM IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE SWALE MORE THAN LIKELY FLOOD ONE OR
11:23:52AM BOTH ON EITHER SIDE.
11:23:54AM THEY SELL THE HOUSE TO ME.
11:23:56AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE.
11:23:57AM IT DOESN'T COME UP WHEN WE DO THE DUE DILIGENCE.
11:24:01AM AND ATTORNEYS DO THE DUE DILIGENCE.
11:24:05AM NOW I BUY THE HOUSE.
11:24:07AM I AM THERE SIX MONTHS.
11:24:08AM I SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I WANT TO FILL IN THE SWALES WITH SOME
11:24:12AM NICE-LOOKING PLANTS.
11:24:13AM I FILL IN THE SWALES.
11:24:16AM AND IT WORKS UNTIL IT RAINS.
11:24:18AM IN JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST.
11:24:21AM SO NOW THE PROPERTY GETS FLOODED ON BOTH SIDES.
11:24:25AM WELL, THEY COME AFTER ME.
11:24:26AM I DIDN'T KNOW THE VIOLATION WAS THERE.
11:24:29AM THE ORIGINAL OWNER KNEW IT WAS THERE.
11:24:31AM BUT BY THE TIME WE GET IT, IT IS A DONE DEAL.
11:24:37AM HOW DO WE SOLVE THAT PROBLEM?
11:24:39AM THESE ARE THE THINGS I WANT TO DISCUSS IN A WORKSHOP WITH
11:24:43AM THE BOARD OF REALTORS POSSIBLY SO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T GET
11:24:46AM CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE.
11:24:47AM THE NEXT ONE IS -- AGAIN IN DISTRICT 4 AND DISTRICT 5.
11:24:53AM I MEAN DISTRICT 6 AND DISTRICT 5.
11:24:57AM I THINK I SAID 4 BEFORE BUT I WANT TO CORRECT MYSELF, 5 AND
11:25:01AM 6.
11:25:01AM YOU SEE A PREPONDERANCE OF SEMIS BEING PARKED ON THE ROAD.
11:25:06AM SOME WITH A TRAILER AND TRACTOR.
11:25:07AM SOME WITH JUST THE TRAILER.
11:25:09AM USED TO BE THAT THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WOULD SEE IT
11:25:12AM AND PUT A SIGN ON IT.
11:25:13AM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WOULD DISAPPEAR.
11:25:16AM MAYBE ILLEGAL TO PUT A SIGN OR NOTICE OF VIOLATION.
11:25:20AM BUT A NOTICE THAT YOU WILL NOT GET FINED THE FIRST TIME.
11:25:23AM THEY WOULD TELL YOU ON THAT NOTICE THAT IF YOU ARE FINED A
11:25:27AM SECOND TIME, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO PULL IT AWAY.
11:25:31AM JOHN WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT, BUT I SEE MORE AND MORE OF THAT
11:25:35AM HAPPENING NOT ONLY IN AREAS OF AREAS WITH A LOT OF
11:25:39AM DWELLINGS, BUT AREAS EVEN IN THE AREAS OF DREW PARK.
11:25:44AM WHERE YOU SEE THIS AS NO PARKING.
11:25:47AM AND YOU SEE A BIG RIG THERE OVER THE WEEKEND ON THE CITY
11:25:52AM RIGHT-OF-WAY PARKED.
11:25:53AM THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, IS WHAT ABOUT SOME KIDS ON THE OUR
11:25:59AM SIDE OF THAT SEMI COMES OUT.
11:26:00AM NO ONE CAN SEE HER -- SEE HIM OR HER.
11:26:03AM THIS COULD BE A CATASTROPHE FOR A FAMILY.
11:26:08AM WANT TO ADD THESE TWO.
11:26:11AM A WARNING EVERY TIME YOU SEE A TRACTOR OR TRACTOR AND
11:26:15AM TRAILER THAT YOU DON'T BELONG HERE.
11:26:18AM THIS IS NOT ZONED FOR THAT.
11:26:19AM IF YOU SEE THE STREETS GOING TO BE PAVED HERE MORE LIKELY
11:26:23AM SOONER THAN LATER?
11:26:26AM WHAT DOES THE SEMI DO TO THE HEAVY WEIGHT CONTINUOUSLY ON
11:26:30AM THE CITY STREETS.
11:26:32AM IT TEARS THEM APART.
11:26:33AM WE EXACERBATE OURSELF SAYING WE WANT TO DO THIS AND PASS AN
11:26:37AM ORDINANCE AND IT IS VERY HARD TO ENFORCE.
11:26:40AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT IF I MAY ADD THESE TWO, THE
11:26:44AM SEMIS AND THE VIOLATION, WHEN SOMEBODY BUY AS HOUSE -- THE
11:26:48AM REASON I BRING THIS UP.
11:26:49AM ONE IN THE COUNTY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT I AM WORKING ON.
11:26:53AM AN INDIVIDUAL STOPPED ME AT THE RACETRACK AND TOLD ME OF HIS
11:26:57AM PROBLEMS.
11:26:57AM HE WAS THE THIRD OWNER OF THE HOUSE.
11:26:59AM HE BUILT SOMETHING THAT WAS SIX INCHES GREATER THAN.
11:27:02AM AND SOMEBODY CALLED AND SAID I DON'T WANT THIS, AND HE HAS
11:27:06AM A VIOLATION.
11:27:06AM BUT WHEN THEY CAME AND SAW THAT, THEY CAME TO AN AGREEMENT,
11:27:11AM EVEN WITH THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION, BUT WHAT THEY FINED HIM
11:27:15AM FOR WAS SOME WALL THAT THE PREVIOUS OWNER PUT UP 25 YEARS
11:27:21AM AGO.
11:27:21AM AND NOW THEY WANT HIM TO FIX IT.
11:27:24AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT HATCHED.
11:27:25AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:27:27AM ON THE SWALE ISSUE, I THINK THERE IS A SPENDING MOTION THAT
11:27:31AM THE ADMINISTRATION IS SUPPOSED TO REPORT BACK TO YOU TO
11:27:34AM PROVIDE INFORMATION ON.
11:27:35AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS.
11:27:36AM I KNOW IT HAS BEEN EXPECTED A COUPLE OF TIMES.
11:27:40AM MR. BHIDE IS INVOLVED IN THAT.
11:27:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. MASSEY.
11:27:45AM PUT ALL THIS INTO ONE AND HAVE A CONVINCING AFTERNOON OF
11:27:49AM TALKING ABOUT STRUCTURAL PLANS MAYBE WE CAN AND CANNOT
11:27:53AM DO.
11:27:53AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT IS FINE.
11:27:54AM IF YOU WERE TRYING TO MAKE A NEW MOTION ON THAT, I WOULD
11:27:57AM JUST LIKE -- YOUR CALENDAR IS ALREADY GETTING CLUTTERED IN
11:28:01AM SOME OF YOUR MEETINGS AND ALL THE MOTIONS AND THINGS WE ARE
11:28:03AM TRYING TO RESPOND TO AND CAN CONSOLIDATE IT.
11:28:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, IF
11:28:10AM POSSIBLE.
11:28:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR.
11:28:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:28:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE POINT OF VEHICLES PARKED.
11:28:18AM IF MISS WYNN, YOU CAN GET STAFF TO TALK TO US OF THE KIND OF
11:28:25AM CODE ENFORCEMENT THAT WE ARE HEARING.
11:28:27AM THAT WILL GIVE YOU WITH SPECIFIC EXAMPLES.
11:28:30AM THAT WILL BE ONE AND STRENGTHEN THAT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
11:28:34AM TO THE FIRST ONE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, A SEPARATE BIGGER
11:28:37AM ISSUE.
11:28:37AM I AM HAPPY TO MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION OR YOU CAN MAKE IT.
11:28:41AM BUT WE OUGHT TO MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION AFTER THIS THAT JUST
11:28:44AM ADDRESSES THINGS HAVE BEEN BUILT ILLEGALLY AND HOW DO WE GO
11:28:50AM THROUGH DO WE ADDRESS TO BE FAIR TO EVERYONE.
11:28:59AM WE ADDRESSED PIECES EARLIER WITH OTHER MOTIONS, BUT MAYBE
11:29:03AM PASS THIS MOTION AND TRY TO DO A SEPARATE MOTION ON THAT.
11:29:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS FINE.
11:29:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE STILL HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR MADE BY
11:29:12AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:29:13AM AMENDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND STILL SECONDED BY
11:29:17AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:29:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:29:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT, PLEASE.
11:29:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:29:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:29:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:29:29AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:29:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:29:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:29:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:29:32AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:29:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE
11:29:37AM YOUR MOTION --
11:29:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:29:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO.
11:29:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, PLEASE PROCEED.
11:29:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL THROW THIS OUT AS AN IDEA AND YOU CAN
11:29:49AM EDIT OR CHANGE IT.
11:29:50AM TO HAVE MISS WYNN AND HER DEPARTMENT COME BACK ON THE SAME
11:29:57AM DAY AT THE WORKSHOP IN JUNE TO BE DISCUSS HOW THE CITY CAN
11:30:02AM FAIRLY AND SYSTEMATICALLY GO THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS TO
11:30:06AM IDENTIFY WHAT STRUCTURES ARE THERE ILLEGALLY.
11:30:10AM YOU ADDRESS THEM -- THE ILLEGAL STRUCTURES AND HOW TO
11:30:16AM WORK WITH THE REALTOR AND REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY TO
11:30:22AM ADEQUATELY INFORM BUYERS OF PROPERTIES ABOUT THE RIGHTS THAT
11:30:27AM PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE ON THEIR STRUCTURES.
11:30:30AM DOES THAT COVER IT?
11:30:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS FINE.
11:30:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:30:35AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:30:37AM ALL IN FAVOR.
11:30:38AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:30:40AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:30:41AM >>OCEA WYNN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ONE COMMENT.
11:30:44AM WHEN WE LOOK AT LEGAL BUILDING STRUCTURES, THAT IS NOT CODE
11:30:48AM ENFORCEMENT.
11:30:49AM THAT IS BUILDING SERVICES.
11:30:50AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR.
11:30:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD I CHANGE THE MOTION THIS?
11:30:57AM >>OCEA WYNN: CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
11:31:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD I SAY BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION
11:31:05AM SERVICES.
11:31:05AM I WANT TO MODIFY TO SAY CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
11:31:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MODIFY THE MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:31:11AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:31:13AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:31:14AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:31:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
11:31:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION CARRIES.
11:31:21AM MOTION PASSED.
11:31:24AM CONSENT AGENDA.
11:31:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ITEMS 15-28.
11:31:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECONDED BY
11:31:36AM MIRANDA.
11:31:36AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, PARKS AND RECREATION.
11:31:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE.
11:31:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:31:42AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:31:44AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:31:45AM OPPOSED?
11:31:46AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:31:47AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, PUBLIC WORKS.
11:31:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE ITEMS 38-56.
11:31:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:31:55AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:31:57AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:31:58AM OPPOSED?
11:31:59AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:32:00AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, FINANCE.
11:32:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE I GO THERE, 64 WAS PULLED, AM I
11:32:06AM CORRECT?
11:32:06AM I MOVE 57-63.
11:32:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:32:13AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:32:15AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:32:15AM OPPOSED?
11:32:20AM MOTION PASSES.
11:32:20AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:32:22AM BUILDING AND ZONING WITH A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION ON AGENDA
11:32:26AM ITEM NUMBER 79.
11:32:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU NEEDS TO RECUSE MYSELF ON 73 AND 74.
11:32:36AM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 65 TO 79 INCLUDING A SUBSTITUTE OPTION
11:32:42AM 79 EXCEPT FOR 73 AND 74 MOVE 65-78 MINUS 73 AND 74.
11:32:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:32:58AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:33:00AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:33:00AM OPPOSED?
11:33:01AM MOTION PASSES.
11:33:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE ASK COUNCIL TO
11:33:06AM RECEIVE AND FILE MY FORM 8B OR 73 AND 74.
11:33:11AM AND JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S EDIFICATION AND THE -- AND ANY
11:33:17AM STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE WATCHING AND TAKING NOTE.
11:33:19AM I WANT TO SAY THAT MY FIRM DOES NOT DO ANY BUSINESS WITH
11:33:22AM ANYBODY RELATED TO CITY PROJECTS.
11:33:24AM WE DON'T ADVISE PEOPLE ON CITY PROJECTS.
11:33:27AM AND WE DON'T WORK DIRECTLY ON ANY CITY PROJECTS.
11:33:32AM HOWEVER, THE ETHICS COMMISSION ASKS US TO, WHEN IN
11:33:37AM QUESTION, FOR ANY DOUBT WHATSOEVER TO GO AHEAD AND RECUSE
11:33:40AM OURSELVES BECAUSE THAT IS THE ETHICAL THING TO DO.
11:33:42AM ETHICAL THING TO DO RECUSE OURSELVES AND NOT TO RECUSE
11:33:47AM OURSELF.
11:33:47AM RECUSE OURSELVES IS A GOOD THING NOT A BAD THING.
11:33:51AM MY FIRM HAS NOT HAVE A DIRECT CONNECTION WITH 73 AND 74.
11:33:57AM WORK WITH A CLIENT WITH A RELATED INTEREST.
11:34:01AM IN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I WOULD LIKE TO RECUSE MYSELF AND
11:34:05AM HAVE THE FORM 8 A AND B.
11:34:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:34:12AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:34:14AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:34:15AM OPPOSED?
11:34:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVED 37 AND 74.
11:34:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS GOING TO ASK VIERA WHO IS VICE-CHAIR.
11:34:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
11:34:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:34:26AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:34:27AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:34:29AM OPPOSED?
11:34:30AM MOTION CARRIED.
11:34:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM 80-83.
11:34:36AM 84 WAS PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
11:34:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:34:42AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:34:45AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:34:46AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:34:48AM MOTION CARRIED.
11:34:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO SET ITEM 85 FOR PUBLIC HEARING
11:34:52AM FOR JULY 27, 2023 AT 1:30 P.M. ON CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
11:34:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY --
11:35:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION --
11:35:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SAYS 1:30 IN THE AFTERNOON.
11:35:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
11:35:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I KNOW THAT.
11:35:10AM THAT IS THE TIME OF THE RESOLUTION.
11:35:11AM CAN WE HOLD THAT ITEM, PLEASE?
11:35:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I RESCIND MY RESOLUTION MOTION.
11:35:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE WILL BRING IT BACK.
11:35:19AM I WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSION ON THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE
11:35:22AM SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TIMES AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
11:35:24AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I'M HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 85?
11:35:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
11:35:28AM WHAT TIME -- BECAUSE WE ARE NO LONGER DOING 1:30 HEARINGS
11:35:33AM AFTER -- AS WE -- AS WE REORDERED BUSINESS.
11:35:36AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: WHATEVER THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
11:35:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE THIS RESOLUTION.
11:35:54AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I CAN.
11:35:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BRING IT BACK TO DO THAT.
11:35:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SET AT 10:30 PUBLIC HEARING THAN 1:30
11:36:01AM >>CLERK: THE RESOLUTION STATES 1:30.
11:36:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SUBSTITUTE 10:30.
11:36:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: POINT OF ORDER.
11:36:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:36:11AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM CONFUSED.
11:36:14AM I DON'T SEE A TIME CERTAIN OF BEING HEARD FOR 1:30.
11:36:18AM MOVING A RESOLUTION FOR 1:30.
11:36:20AM WE ARE MOVING THIS RESOLUTION.
11:36:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
11:36:25AM A WRITTEN RESOLUTION IN SIRE TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING JULY 27
11:36:30AM AT 1:30 IN THE AFTERNOON.
11:36:31AM CANNOT BE HEARD EARLIER THAN 1:30.
11:36:34AM NOW YOU ARE DOING HEARINGS IN THE MORNING AND STAFF REPORT
11:36:38AM IN THE AFTERNOON.
11:36:38AM THAT -- THIS ONE 1:30 TODAY WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS SET A
11:36:44AM WHILE AGO.
11:36:45AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU CAN'T MOVE IN RIGHT NOW UNTIL 1:30 THIS
11:36:48AM AFTERNOON.
11:36:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
11:36:49AM WE NEED THE RESOLUTION AMENDED TO SAY THE CORRECT TIME OF
11:36:53AM 10:30 A.M.
11:36:54AM SHE COMES BACK WITH A SUBSTITUTE WE CAN MOVE THIS RESOLUTION
11:36:58AM TO SET THIS PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 27th AT 10:30.
11:37:03AM ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CHANGE THE TIME.
11:37:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BRING THAT BACK US TO LATER ON TODAY WHEN WE
11:37:11AM COME BACK FROM RECESS?
11:37:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:37:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
11:37:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PULLED IT FOR DISCUSSION
11:37:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT, SHALL WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS WITH
11:37:28AM THE ANOTHER LAST 20 MEN REMAINING?
11:37:30AM OR WANT TO GO TO LUNCH AND COME BACK FOR STAFF REPORTS.
11:37:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO 64.
11:37:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 64.
11:37:42AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF YOU CAN SKIP TO 79.
11:37:53AM I NEED MR. HARVEY FOR ITEM 64.
11:37:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:37:57AM GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 79, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-80843.
11:38:09AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:38:12AM I BELIEVE THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAD SOME QUESTIONS?
11:38:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I READ THROUGH THIS AGAIN.
11:38:18AM AND I JUST WANTED THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE AREN'T
11:38:22AM CHANGING ANYTHING ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THESE INFILL
11:38:28AM HOUSING PHASES.
11:38:30AM BECAUSE WE, AS A COUNCIL, WHEN WE APPROVED IT TO THE
11:38:38AM 140% AMI, AND WE WERE COGNIZANT TO SAY WE WOULDN'T DO THAT AGAIN.
11:38:41AM IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT SO THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS
11:38:44AM HAPPENING HERE AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH US CHANGING THE
11:38:48AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEST OF THIS.
11:38:52AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: SURE.
11:38:53AM THIS PROPERTY IS READY TO BE CONVEYED TO A USER, A QUALIFIED
11:38:59AM BUYER FROM THE DEVELOPER.
11:39:00AM THE WAY THIS PROGRAM WAS INITIALLY SET UP, SHIP FUNDS WERE
11:39:06AM GOING TO BE USED FOR THESE PROPERTIES.
11:39:08AM THEREFORE, WHEN THE DECK REGENCY OF AFFORDABLE CONVENANCE
11:39:15AM PLACED ON THE PROPERTY IT INCLUDED PROVISIONS REQUIRED UNDER
11:39:18AM THE SHIP GUIDELINES.
11:39:20AM AND BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY, SHIP FUNDS WERE NEVER ACTUALLY
11:39:23AM USED.
11:39:23AM THE DEVELOPER USED THEIR OWN MONEY.
11:39:25AM FANNIE MAE, WHEN THE BUYER -- THE BUYER IS NOW PURCHASING,
11:39:33AM FANNIE MAE IS PROVIDING FINANCING AND THEY WERE REJECTING TO
11:39:39AM PROVISIONS IN THE DECLARATION.
11:39:40AM SINCE THEY ARE NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS PROPERTY ANYWAY, IN
11:39:44AM ORDER TO -- FOR THE BUYER TO GET FINANCING, WE AGREED TO
11:39:48AM REMOVE THESE TWO PROVISIONS.
11:39:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:39:52AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: ONLY FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
11:39:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:39:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS JOHNS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUICK WORK
11:40:00AM WITH THIS YESTERDAY WHEN I RECEIVED A CALL FROM THE BANK
11:40:05AM PERSONNEL, AND WE WERE ABLE TO CLEAR UP THOSE
11:40:10AM MISUNDERSTANDING VERY QUICKLY, AND I AM SURE THE BUYER IS
11:40:13AM VERY HAPPY TO GET THIS SO THEY CAN PURCHASE THE HOME.
11:40:15AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR DUE DILIGENCE RIGHT AWAY ON THAT.
11:40:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:40:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:40:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:40:27AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:40:28AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:40:29AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:40:30AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:40:31AM ALL RIGHT, LET'S -- WE ARE GOING TO TAKE UP AGENDA ITEM
11:40:35AM NUMBER 64 AND RIGHT AFTER THAT, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 88
11:40:24AM >> DAVID HARVEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:40:40AM THIS RESOLUTION IS TO APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT IN THE VAZZO
11:40:47AM LITIGATION.
11:40:47AM THIS IS THE LAWSUIT THAT AROSE FROM THE 2017 ENACTMENT OF
11:40:50AM THE CITY'S BAN ON CONVERSION THERAPY.
11:40:53AM AS COUNCIL KNOWS, THIS HAS BEEN LITIGATED, THE DISTRICT
11:40:56AM COURT AND THE 11th CIRCUIT APPELLATE COURT HAVE FOUND THE
11:41:00AM ORDINANCE WAS IN VIOLATION OF BOTH THE -- PREEMPTED BY STATE
11:41:04AM LAW AND ALSO IN VIOLATION OF THE CONSTITUTION.
11:41:07AM SO PLAINTIFF AS THE PREVAILING PARTY IS NOW ENTITLED TO
11:41:10AM ATTORNEYS' FEES AS WELL AS ANY COMPENSATORY DAMAGES.
11:41:14AM WE'RE RECOMMENDING SETTLEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF 950,000.
11:41:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:41:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN?
11:41:29AM JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, MR. SHELBY, STOP ME IF I'M GOING
11:41:33AM THE WRONG PLACE, THERE WAS A CLOSED SESSION IN REFERENCE TO
11:41:37AM THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT, SO FOR THE PUBLIC'S
11:41:39AM KNOWLEDGE, IT SHOULD BE PUBLIC RECORD AFTER THIS SITUATION,
11:41:44AM AFTER THIS CASE TO THE PUBLIC AND KNOW WHY COUNCIL IS NOT
11:41:47AM DISCUSSING.
11:41:48AM BUT WE HAD A PRIVATE SESSION IN REFERENCE TO THE LITIGATION.
11:41:52AM >> ONCE THE LITIGATION IS TERMINATED THEN THE TRANSCRIPT OF
11:41:55AM THE CLOSED SESSION WILL BE MADE PUBLIC.
11:41:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:41:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:42:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: STOP ME IF YOU NEED TO, BUT I THINK -- I
11:42:05AM WASN'T ON COUNCIL YET, BUT THE FACT THAT COUNCIL PASSED THIS
11:42:10AM SHOWS IT WAS COUNCIL'S INTENT TO PROHIBIT THIS AND THEN THE
11:42:15AM CITY DEFENDED -- THE CITY LEGAL DEPARTMENT DEFENDED THE CITY
11:42:19AM IN LITIGATION BY PEOPLE WHO OPPOSED IT AND SO THIS IS THE
11:42:25AM SETTLEMENT, BUT SETTLING THIS I THINK, AT LEAST FOR ME, HAS
11:42:32AM NO BEARING ON HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE SUBJECT.
11:42:34AM IT'S JUST WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW AND THE ADVICE OF
11:42:37AM ATTORNEYS IN THIS CASE.
11:42:44AM >> TO BE CLEAR, THE CASE ON THE MERITS HAS ALREADY BEEN
11:42:47AM DECIDED IN FAVOR OF MR. VAZZO.
11:42:50AM THIS IS REALLY A SETTLEMENT OF THE ATTORNEYS' FEES AND ANY
11:42:53AM COMPENSATORY DAMAGES THAT COULD BE MADE.
11:42:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY POINT REALLY IS AGREEING TO A SETTLEMENT
11:42:58AM IS NOT A REFLECTION OF HOW EACH OF US NECESSARILY FEELS
11:43:02AM ABOUT THE ISSUE.
11:43:06AM IT'S ONLY APPROVING A SETTLEMENT ON THE ADVICE OF COUNSEL.
11:43:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:43:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:43:16AM I WANT TO BUILD ON THAT.
11:43:17AM THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:43:20AM I WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN WE PASSED THIS.
11:43:22AM I THINK IT WAS 2017.
11:43:24AM I REMEMBER BEING PERSONALLY VERY TOUCHED BY THE PEOPLE WHO
11:43:28AM CAME OUT AND TOLD PERSONAL STORIES FROM THEIR HEART.
11:43:31AM IT REALLY TOUCHED ME A LOT.
11:43:33AM JUST THOSE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO BE HEARD AND SEEN BY THE CITY
11:43:36AM OF TAMPA AND BY CITY COUNCIL.
11:43:41AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT IN CASE THERE WAS ANY VAGUENESS IN
11:43:46AM THAT REGARD.
11:43:47AM THANK YOU.
11:43:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
11:43:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:43:55AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:43:56AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:43:57AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:43:58AM >> NAY.
11:43:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
11:44:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:44:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:44:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:44:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:44:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:44:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:44:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:44:12AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
11:44:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:15AM NOW LET'S GO TO AGENDA ITEM 88.
11:44:25AM >> ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR.
11:44:28AM THIS ITEM WAS ON THE MARCH 16th AGENDA.
11:44:32AM DID A PRESENTATION AND IT GOT CONTINUED TO THIS ONE BECAUSE
11:44:36AM IT'S OVER A $20 MILLION PROJECT TO GIVE THE TWO WEEKS IN
11:44:41AM BETWEEN.
11:44:41AM THIS IS A PIPES PROJECT.
11:44:44AM IT'S ONGOING IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR MASTER PLAN AT THE
11:44:47AM WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, AND IT'S REALLY ONE OF THE
11:44:51AM CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT DOES A COMPLETE REHABILITATION OF
11:44:54AM WHAT WE CALL OUR SECONDARY TREATMENT PROCESS, WHICH IS
11:44:58AM REMOVING ORGANICS FROM THE WASTEWATER, ALSO KNOWN AS CARBON.
11:45:02AM I'LL JUST CLOSE WITH THIS IS NOT A PURE PROJECT.
11:45:07AM THIS IS THE MASTER PLAN AND IT'S REHABILITATING OUR AGING
11:45:11AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:45:11AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:45:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:45:15AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:45:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW WE OFTEN ASK THESE QUESTIONS
11:45:19AM REGARDING CONTRACTS, AND THIS IS A $77 MILLION INVESTMENT.
11:45:23AM DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBERS IN REGARDS TO MINORITY
11:45:26AM PARTICIPATION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT, SIR?
11:45:29AM >>ERIC WEISS: YES.
11:45:31AM I BELIEVE IT'S 22% OVERALL THAT WAS ACHIEVED.
11:45:34AM 11% BLACK BUSINESS, AND 10% SBLE.
11:45:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:45:44AM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:45:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO MOVE AGENDA ITEM 88, PW23-80277 BY
11:45:53AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:45:54AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:45:55AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:45:57AM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
11:45:59AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:46:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY --
11:46:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:46:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS BACK?
11:46:08AM THE PURPOSE OF BRINGING THIS BACK AND WE'LL DISCUSS IN STAFF
11:46:11AM REPORTS LATER IS TO GIVE THE PUBLIC A SECOND CHANCE TO LOOK
11:46:13AM AT IT.
11:46:14AM IN THIS CASE, WE DIDN'T GET ANY EXTRA PUBLIC INPUT, SO THANK
11:46:17AM YOU FOR DOING THAT.
11:46:19AM >>ERIC WEISS: THANK YOU.
11:46:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:46:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. WEISS, THANK YOU FOR THE NUMBERS.
11:46:24AM 77 MILLION THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
11:46:27AM AND I'LL BE FRANK WITH YOU, OVERALL YOU HAVE, 20% WAS IT?
11:46:34AM >>ERIC WEISS: I DON'T REMEMBER.
11:46:36AM THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.
11:46:38AM OVERALL.
11:46:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK FOR 77 MILLION, WE NEED TO INCREASE
11:46:42AM THAT A LITTLE BIT.
11:46:43AM 77 MILLION, I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT'S STILL, FOR THAT KIND
11:46:47AM OF MONEY, IT'S STILL KIND OF LOW WITH THOSE NUMBERS, AND WE
11:46:51AM NEED TO GET THERE, BUT FOR ME, AGAIN, I APPROVE THE PROJECT
11:46:56AM WHAT WE'RE DOING, RESPECT WHAT WE'RE DOING, TO ME, WE HAVE
11:46:58AM TO DO JUST A LITTLE BIT BETTER WHEN GIVING THAT KIND OF
11:47:01AM MONEY AWAY.
11:47:02AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:47:03AM >>ERIC WEISS: ON MARCH 16, WE ALSO ADDED AN AMENDMENT FOR
11:47:06AM SOME DESIGN, AND WE ACHIEVED 40% BLACK BUSINESS ON THAT.
11:47:09AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S APPRECIATED, SIR.
11:47:12AM THANK YOU.
11:47:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:47:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE MOVE ITEM NUMBER 89 AS WELL?
11:47:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE STAFF TO REPORT ON THAT?
11:47:22AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 89, FILE PW23-80830.
11:47:34AM MR. WEBER.
11:47:36AM >>CHUCK WEBER: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
11:47:39AM THIS ITEM IS FOR RENEWAL OF AWARD FOR LIQUID FERRIC SULFATE,
11:47:45AM ESTIMATED AMOUNT OF $6.5 MILLION.
11:47:47AM REPRESENTS A 5% INCREASE IN THE PRICE OF FERRIC SULFATE.
11:47:52AM THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING THROUGHOUT THE
11:47:54AM INDUSTRY.
11:47:55AM ACTUALLY, IT'S A LITTLE ON THE LOW SIDE.
11:47:57AM WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:47:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WEBER?
11:48:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:48:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO
11:48:05AM MOVE THE RESOLUTION OF FILE PW23-80830.
11:48:11AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:48:13AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
11:48:13AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:48:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THE
11:48:18AM CONSUMER PRICE INDEX.
11:48:19AM I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE NOTE THAT IN MY PLANNING, SOME OF THE
11:48:26AM OTHER CHANGE ORDERS AND THINGS THAT WE APPROVED EARLIER, THE
11:48:31AM PERCENTAGES OF INCREASES HAVE GONE DOWN FROM ABOUT 8.5
11:48:35AM PERCENT, THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE INCREASE, DOWN TO
11:48:38AM ABOUT 6.5.
11:48:39AM SO WE ARE STARTING, AND I ASKED ABOUT THAT, AND I WAS TOLD
11:48:44AM THAT WE ARE STARTING TO SEE KIND OF A SETTLING WITH
11:48:50AM INFLATION.
11:48:51AM HOPEFULLY WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE THE LOWER INCREASES WHERE WE
11:48:55AM HAVE TO HAVE INCREASES.
11:48:56AM SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT FOR THE PUBLIC AND SAY
11:48:58AM THANK YOU, MR. WEBER, FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
11:49:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:49:03AM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
11:49:04AM MOTION PASSES.
11:49:06AM I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 94, IF WE COULD.
11:49:13AM FILE CM23-79315.
11:49:30AM >>RUSSELL HAUPERT: I DIDN'T HAVE THE NUMBER MEMORIZED.
11:49:34AM MY NAME IS RUSSELL HAUPERT.
11:49:36AM CTO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:49:38AM I PASSED A MEMO FOR THE COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
11:49:42AM WE MET WITH THE MEMBERS OF THE TBBA TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES
11:49:46AM WITH ACCELA.
11:49:47AM WE WERE ABLE TO COME TO A REASONABLE CONCLUSION THAT THE
11:49:51AM SYSTEM DOES WORK AS WE INDICATED.
11:49:53AM WE HAVE SOME TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE COMING UP IN
11:49:56AM LATE MARCH.
11:49:57AM WE'VE ATTACHED THAT TO YOUR ITEM IN RATHER LATE APRIL AND
11:50:01AM THROUGHOUT MAY.
11:50:03AM FROM A THIRD STANDPOINT, FROM FEEDBACK FROM MULTIPLE MEMBERS
11:50:06AM OF THE COUNCIL AND THE FOLKS THAT ASKED US, THEY ASKED US
11:50:10AM FOR SOME DIRECT LINKING FROM OUR GIS MAPS THAT COVER
11:50:14AM PERMITTING AND ZONING ISSUES AND WHERE THEY ARE ISSUED TO
11:50:18AM DEEP LINK INTO THE ACCELA SYSTEM DIRECTLY.
11:50:21AM WE HAVE ADDED THAT FUNCTIONALITY AND DEPLOYED IT AS OF ABOUT
11:50:24AM TWO WEEKS AGO.
11:50:25AM WE DID REACH OUT SOMEWHAT LATE.
11:50:28AM MY APOLOGIES TO THE TAMPA AREA BUSINESS -- SORRY, TAMPA
11:50:35AM HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
11:50:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:50:36AM JC HUTCHINSON AND CSD DID REACH OUT.
11:50:42AM WE ARE WILLING TO HAVE THE SAME KIND OF MEETING WITH THEM
11:50:46AM THAT WE DID HAVE WITH OUR FOLKS FROM TBBA AND MAKE SURE THAT
11:50:50AM THEY ARE COMFORTABLE.
11:50:51AM AND I THINK A COUPLE OF KEY THINGS CAME OUT OF THIS, FOLKS,
11:50:55AM THAT I THINK YOU'LL AGREE.
11:50:56AM NEXT TIME WE DO AN UPGRADE, WE ARE GOING TO ENSURE THAT WE
11:50:59AM DO THESE EDUCATIONAL AND PROMOTIONAL ACTIVITIES BEFORE THE
11:51:04AM ITEM GOES OUT, AND I BELIEVE THAT WILL ADDRESS MUCH OF THE
11:51:07AM CONCERNS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GOTTEN.
11:51:09AM I THINK WHEN SOMEONE GETS TO SEE A CHANGE THAT'S COMING,
11:51:12AM THEY ARE MUCH MORE ACCEPTING OF IT.
11:51:14AM SECONDARILY, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING WITH THESE GROUPS
11:51:17AM AS WE MOVE FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY LINGERING ISSUES
11:51:21AM ARE ADDRESSED.
11:51:21AM AND IF YOU CAN PASS THE WORD ON THE TRAINING SESSIONS THAT
11:51:25AM WE'RE HAVING, IN THOSE SESSIONS WE ARE ALSO GOING TO HAVE
11:51:28AM REPRESENTATIVES OR TECHNICAL GROUPS AND ACCELA, WHERE
11:51:31AM POSSIBLE, TO TAKE ANY INPUT THAT COMES OUT AS A BY-PRODUCT
11:51:35AM OF THE TRAINING.
11:51:36AM AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT FOR YOU.
11:51:38AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, IF I CAN HELP YOU.
11:51:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:51:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
11:51:45AM ABLE TO REACH OUT TO BOTH THE TAMPA BAY BUILDERS ASSOCIATION
11:51:49AM AND KIND OF SOLVE THAT AND THEN RIGHT BEFORE THIS KIND OF
11:51:56AM HAVE A MEETING WITH T.H.A.N.
11:51:59AM I DID SEE THAT YOU HAVE SOME TRAINING SESSIONS COMING UP.
11:52:02AM MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT THEY ARE 11:30 IN THE MORNING AND A
11:52:05AM LOT OF PEOPLE WHO USE THE SYSTEM ARE VOLUNTEERS THAT WORK
11:52:08AM WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:52:10AM AND WOULD NEED SOMETHING AFTER WORKING HOURS.
11:52:13AM I HOPE THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME OF THESE TRAININGS
11:52:18AM IN THE FUTURE IN THE EVENING.
11:52:19AM >>RUSSELL HAUPERT: WE'RE HOPING TO DO TWO THINGS:
11:52:22AM ADDITIONAL SESSIONS, AND WE'LL TALK WITH THE MEMBERS FROM
11:52:25AM CSD ABOUT THAT.
11:52:26AM SECONDARILY, WE'RE HOPING TO RECORD SOME OF THE SESSIONS AND
11:52:29AM MAKE THEM AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR FOLKS WHO CAN'T MAKE THEM,
11:52:32AM AND I THINK THAT ALSO WILL HELP A BUNCH OF FOLKS THAT NEED
11:52:35AM TO.
11:52:36AM I GUESS I WANT TO POINT OUT ANY INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE AN
11:52:39AM ISSUE IN MY KNOWLEDGE HAVE NEVER BEEN TURNED AWAY FROM
11:52:43AM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES IF THEY CALL UP INDIVIDUALLY AND ASK
11:52:45AM FOR SOME HELP NAVIGATING AN ISSUE.
11:52:48AM THAT IS ALSO OPEN TO FOLKS, AND WE CAN ALSO TAKE THAT AREA
11:52:52AM FOR SUPPORT.
11:52:53AM BUT YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOTED, AND WE WILL DO THAT.
11:52:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO HAVE
11:53:00AM THIS COME BACK ON MAY 18th TO JUST SORT OF TIE IT WITH A
11:53:06AM BOW AND MAKE SURE WE TALKED TO T.H.A.N. AND WHATEVER OTHER
11:53:10AM THINGS YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET FROM THEM AND BRING IT BACK
11:53:12AM AND KIND OF HAVE A TRUE RESOLUTION.
11:53:14AM >>RUSSELL HAUPERT: YES, MA'AM, HAPPY TO DO SO.
11:53:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY MOTION IS TO BRING THIS BACK MAY 18 UNDER
11:53:20AM STAFF REPORTS.
11:53:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
11:53:22AM HURTAK.
11:53:23AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:53:24AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:53:27AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:53:28AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:53:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.
11:53:33AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING A GREAT JOB.
11:53:35AM YOU COVERED ALL THE BASES AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING INTO
11:53:39AM CONSIDERATION OTHER COMMENTS SO WE CAN TRY TO ACCOMMODATE
11:53:41AM EVERYBODY.
11:53:42AM BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS THAT CONTACT US
11:53:44AM REGARDING ACCELA AND THE DIFFICULTIES AND THE STRUGGLES AND
11:53:47AM NOT UNDERSTANDING, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE UPDATING AND
11:53:50AM CHANGING, BUT YOU HAVE IT COVERED AND I APPRECIATE YOU VERY
11:53:53AM MUCH.
11:53:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:53:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: ITEM NUMBER 90, MS. WYNN IS HERE, AND I
11:54:00AM THINK IT WOULD GO FAST IF YOU WANT TO DO IT.
11:54:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT DID YOU SAY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
11:54:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: 90.
11:54:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S GO TO 84 AND THEN GO TO WHAT YOU
11:54:25AM REQUESTED.
11:54:26AM THANK YOU.
11:54:26AM GO AHEAD.
11:54:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE MS. DUNCAN, BUT REAL QUICK, THE
11:54:36AM REASON I PULLED THIS WAS, AND WE'VE ALL HEARD MANY
11:54:41AM COMPLAINTS FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC REGARDING THE SEMINOLE
11:54:43AM HEIGHTS PROJECT WITH NELSON AND HAVING THIS ITEM COME UP
11:54:49AM REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS, I KNOW IT'S ONLY $105,000, BUT
11:54:53AM REGARDLESS, IN THE LARGER SCOPE NELSON HAS HAD QUITE A FEW
11:54:59AM DELAYS AND WE RECEIVED AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT OF COMPLAINTS
11:55:03AM FROM INDIVIDUALS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WITH THIS, THEIR
11:55:09AM CONCERN IS HOW IS IT THAT WE'RE APPROVING MORE CONTRACTS FOR
11:55:12AM THIS CONSTRUCTION COMPANY WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY DELAYS
11:55:16AM ALREADY?
11:55:17AM FOR EXAMPLE, A STREET, CARACAS, EAST OF THE INTERSTATE, WAS
11:55:22AM SUPPOSED TO BE PAVED ALREADY THIS WEEK AND THERE IS A DELAY
11:55:24AM THAT IT WILL BE PAVED ON MONDAY.
11:55:26AM HOPEFULLY THEY FULFILL THAT PROMISE BECAUSE I'M IN
11:55:29AM COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD DAILY.
11:55:32AM THERE'S ALWAYS AT LEAST ONE PERSON, USUALLY MANY PEOPLE WITH
11:55:36AM CONCERNS, AND THE CONCERN THIS TIME, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A
11:55:40AM SMALLER PROJECT IN THE LARGER SCOPE OF THINGS, WE'RE GIVING
11:55:45AM MORE PROJECTS TO A COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN EXPERIENCING SO
11:55:48AM MANY DELAYS.
11:55:49AM PEOPLE, I THINK, WITH THEIR FRUSTRATIONS, SAY LET THEM
11:55:53AM FINISH ONE PROJECT FIRST AND THEN WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER
11:55:56AM THINGS, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE
11:56:02AM COMMUNITY THAT'S REACHED OUT REGARDING THIS AND THAT'S WHY I
11:56:04AM PULLED IT FOR DISCUSSION.
11:56:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:56:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY UNDERSTANDING FROM -- AND I DON'T
11:56:09AM DISAGREE.
11:56:10AM PEOPLE HAVE HAD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS.
11:56:11AM BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS THE FINISHING OF A PROJECT
11:56:15AM THAT WAS STARTED AGES AGO.
11:56:18AM I'M SURE MS. DUNCAN WILL TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT THIS IS NOT TO
11:56:24AM CONTINUE A PROJECT BUT TO FINISH IT.
11:56:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. DUNCAN.
11:56:31AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
11:56:32AM GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
11:56:35AM I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT
11:56:38AM THIS ITEM.
11:56:38AM THIS CONTRACT WAS ACTUALLY FOR A SEPARATE PROJECT, A BIKE
11:56:44AM LANE AND SIDEWALK PROJECT ON COLUMBUS DRIVE BETWEEN NEBRASKA
11:56:48AM AND 14th STREET.
11:56:50AM IT WAS ACTUALLY ESSENTIALLY COMPLETED LAST JUNE.
11:56:56AM THERE WERE FINAL CHANGE ORDER PUNCH LIST ITEMS THAT WE HAVE
11:57:00AM BEEN WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR ON.
11:57:03AM SOME DELAYS RELATED TO THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES WITH OUR
11:57:07AM SANITARY SEWER MANHOLES.
11:57:11AM WE FINALLY COMPLETED THOSE FINISHING TOUCHES ON OUR PUNCH
11:57:14AM LIST, AND THIS IS THE CLOSING OUT OF THAT CONTRACT FOR THE
11:57:18AM AMOUNT THAT YOU SEE THERE, WHICH, AGAIN, SEPARATE PROJECT
11:57:23AM FROM THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PROJECT.
11:57:25AM IT'S BASICALLY DONE, AND THIS IS CLOSING OUT THE CONTRACT
11:57:31AM COMPLETELY NOW.
11:57:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:57:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US AND THE PUBLIC WHAT THE
11:57:40AM ADDITIONAL MONEY IS FOR?
11:57:42AM WHY IS THERE AN EXTENSION NECESSARY?
11:57:45AM WHY ARE WE HAVING TO PAY MORE MONEY?
11:57:48AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THERE WAS NOT REALLY AN EXTENSION.
11:57:51AM IT'S JUST A, YOU KNOW, CONTINUATION OF THE CONTRACT TO
11:57:57AM COMPLETE THE WORK.
11:57:58AM THE ADDITIONAL MONIES ARE FOR PUNCH-LIST ITEMS, FOR
11:58:04AM ADDITIONAL ASPHALT PAVING OVERRUNS AND ISSUES THAT CAME UP
11:58:09AM WITH THE SANITARY MANHOLE REMEDIATION THAT WERE NOT
11:58:12AM ANTICIPATED.
11:58:13AM THOSE ARE FIELD OCCURRENCES THAT WERE NOT IN THE ORIGINAL
11:58:17AM CONTRACT.
11:58:18AM THERE WAS A DELAY WITH THE PROCUREMENT OF THOSE MANHOLES,
11:58:26AM LONG TIME.
11:58:27AM THOSE COMPONENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, CONSTRUCTED.
11:58:31AM THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION HAS SIGNED OFF ON THE COMPLETION
11:58:34AM OF THE PROJECT AND THIS IS CLOSING OUT THE FINAL WORK.
11:58:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:58:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:58:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
11:58:44AM MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:58:47AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:58:48AM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
11:58:50AM MOTION PASSES.
11:58:53AM COUNCIL, I BELIEVE IT'S 12:00.
11:58:55AM >> CAN WE DO 90 REAL QUICK?
11:58:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
11:58:59AM LET'S DO 90 REAL QUICK.
11:59:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: IT DOESN'T MATTER.
11:59:04AM THANK YOU.
11:59:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO --
11:59:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ADJOURN TO 1:30.
11:59:10AM EXCUSE ME.
11:59:11AM RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
11:59:12AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
11:59:13AM [LUNCH RECESS]
1:33:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S GO AHEAD AND GO FOR ROLL CALL AGAIN
1:33:13PM PLEASE.
1:33:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
1:33:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
1:33:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
1:33:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
1:33:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
1:33:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
1:33:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
1:33:20PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:33:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:33:23PM COUNCIL, WE HAVE A WALK-ON THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FIRST.
1:33:29PM >> JUSTIN VASKE, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
1:33:33PM [INAUDIBLE]
1:33:38PM -- BOND ISSUER IN THE AMOUNT OF $13 MILLION FOR EDUCATIONAL
1:33:43PM FACILITIES AND RENOVATION OF THOSE FACILITIES.
1:33:45PM THIS RESOLUTION MERELY SETS A PUBLIC HEARING SO WE CAN
1:33:47PM CONSIDER THESE AGREEMENTS ON APRIL 20th, 2023.
1:33:51PM THAT IS ALL.
1:33:52PM THANK YOU.
1:33:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT'S JUST TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING, CORRECT?
1:33:57PM >> YES.
1:33:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES,
1:34:01PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:34:03PM ANY DISCUSSION, ANY QUESTIONS?
1:34:04PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
1:34:07PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
1:34:08PM MOTION CARRIES.
1:34:11PM >> THANK YOU.
1:34:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
1:34:12PM YOU ALL HAVE THE COPY OF THE NEW RESOLUTION FOR FILE NUMBER
1:34:19PM -- EXCUSE ME, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 85, FILE FDN-22-148-C.
1:34:27PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO -- JUST IN CASE WE HAVE COMMENTS OR
1:34:34PM QUESTIONS.
1:34:34PM I KNOW YOU EXPLAINED EARLIER AND YOU JUST CHANGED A TIME ON
1:34:40PM THAT DATE.
1:34:41PM ANYTHING NEW, ANYTHING DIFFERENT ON THE RESOLUTION?
1:34:44PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NO, SIR.
1:34:45PM CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
1:34:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
1:34:49PM >> MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING
1:34:51PM FOR 10:30 INSTEAD OF 1:30.
1:34:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
1:34:56PM MANISCALCO.
1:34:56PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:34:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:34:58PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
1:34:59PM MOTION CARRIES.
1:35:00PM ALL RIGHT.
1:35:03PM CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING?
1:35:06PM >> SO MOVED.
1:35:07PM >> SECOND.
1:35:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL NOW GO TO AGENDA ITEM 86, FILE
1:35:10PM SU1-23-23-C.
1:35:15PM I'M SORRY?
1:35:19PM ANYONE GIVING ANY TYPE OF TESTIMONY AT THE 1:30 PROCEEDING,
1:35:26PM WOULD YOU PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN?
1:35:33PM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
1:35:49PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:35:50PM CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
1:35:52PM I'M HERE IN REGARDS TO ITEM 86, FILE SU1-23-23 FOR THE
1:35:57PM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3505 NORTH 34th STREET.
1:36:02PM THIS IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW THAT WAS FILED ON BEHALF OF
1:36:04PM THE PETITIONER, JOSEPH GIBBONS.
1:36:07PM HE FILED A REQUEST WITH STAFF TO -- REGARDING A DWELLING,
1:36:11PM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED PROJECT.
1:36:15PM STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION REQUEST ON FEBRUARY 8th OF
1:36:18PM 2023 ON THE BASIS THAT THE PROJECT DID NOT MEET THE SPECIFIC
1:36:23PM CRITERIA IN CODE SECTION 27-132 REGARDING DWELLING
1:36:27PM SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
1:36:29PM THE SITE DOES NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL OR
1:36:32PM COLLECTOR STREET AS SHOWN ON THE MAJOR STREET MAP.
1:36:35PM I PROVIDED CITY COUNCIL THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, CODE SECTION
1:36:40PM 27-132, 27-129 WHICH IS THE GENERAL STANDARDS, 27-130, WHICH
1:36:46PM ARE THE CONDITIONS AND SAFEGUARDS, AND 27-61 WHICH ARE THE
1:36:50PM PROVISIONS REGARDING A REVIEW HEARING.
1:36:53PM I'VE ALSO PROVIDED STAFF -- I MEAN, CITY COUNCIL WITH SAMPLE
1:36:57PM MOTIONS AND THE RULES OF PROCEDURE IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THIS
1:36:59PM HEARING.
1:37:00PM THE STANDARD OF REVIEW, ACCORDING TO CODE SECTION 27-61,
1:37:04PM SUBSECTION J-3 IS A DE NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW, WHICH MEANS
1:37:08PM THAT THE RECORD SHALL NOT BE LIMITED IN ITS REVIEW TO THE
1:37:13PM INFORMATION, DOCUMENTATION, OR EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE
1:37:16PM SPECIAL USE PERMIT WAS BASED.
1:37:18PM CITY COUNCIL MAY RECEIVE NEW INFORMATION.
1:37:21PM STAFF WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION AND THE
1:37:26PM DECISION.
1:37:26PM AFTER CITY COUNCIL HAS RECEIVED AND HEARD ALL THE EVIDENCE
1:37:31PM ASSOCIATED WITH THIS MATTER, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE THE
1:37:34PM FOLLOWING ACTIONS:
1:37:36PM CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
1:37:39PM ADMINISTRATOR WHO DENIED THE REQUEST TO WAIVE THE
1:37:41PM REQUIREMENT FOR ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR STREET OR
1:37:46PM CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
1:37:49PM ADMINISTRATOR AND THEREFORE WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE
1:37:51PM ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR STREET.
1:37:55PM WITH THAT, I WILL TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO MR. COTTON,
1:37:58PM WHO WILL GIVE YOU THE OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.
1:38:05PM >>ERIC COTTON: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
1:38:07PM ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
1:38:08PM THE FOLLOW-UP ON WHAT CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE INDICATED, THIS
1:38:13PM IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR SU 1-23-23.
1:38:17PM THE PETITIONER IS JOSEPH GIBBONS.
1:38:19PM PROPERTY OWNER IS 2 W PROPERTIES LLC.
1:38:22PM THE PROPERTY IS 3505 NORTH 34th STREET.
1:38:25PM ZONING IS CI.
1:38:26PM THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION WAS TO ALLOW FOR ATTACHED
1:38:30PM SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING UNITS COMMONLY KNOWN AS SIMILAR --
1:38:34PM BASICALLY WHAT A TOWNHOME IS.
1:38:35PM THIS IS THE ZONING MAP.
1:38:37PM YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED.
1:38:39PM ZONING IS CI.
1:38:40PM THIS IS 34th STREET.
1:38:42PM 34th STREET IS A NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTOR.
1:38:47PM TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE, ALL ACCESS WOULD HAVE
1:38:50PM HAD TO COME OFF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COLLECTOR ON 34th
1:38:53PM STREET.
1:38:53PM THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING ACCESS OFF OF 28th AVENUE.
1:38:57PM YOU CAN SEE IN THE SITE PLAN, SORRY FOR THE POOR QUALITY
1:39:02PM WHEN IT PRINTED OUT.
1:39:04PM BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A ROW OF TOWNHOMES IN THE FRONT.
1:39:07PM ALL PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IS ONTO 34th.
1:39:10PM THEY ARE UTILIZING WHAT COULD BE, ALMOST IN A SENSE CREATED
1:39:14PM AN ALLEYWAY IN THE BACK TO PROVIDE FOR SURFACE PARKING IN
1:39:17PM THE REAR.
1:39:18PM AGAIN, THE TWO CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CODE, ACCESS ON AN
1:39:23PM ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR ROAD.
1:39:26PM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
1:39:29PM WRONG WAY.
1:39:29PM ACCESS ONTO AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR ROAD WHICH WOULD BE
1:39:35PM 34th AND THEY HAVE TO MEET THE RM 24 STANDARDS FOR THE
1:39:39PM DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
1:39:40PM DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
1:39:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
1:39:45PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:39:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THAT IS A CORNER LOT,
1:39:48PM IS IT NOT?
1:39:49PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
1:39:50PM THE CORNER OF -- I'LL GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN.
1:39:55PM THIS IS 34th STREET, 20th AVENUE.
1:40:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE STORE IS RIGHT BEHIND THAT PROPERTY IF
1:40:05PM I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
1:40:06PM THANK YOU, SIR.
1:40:07PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
1:40:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
1:40:10PM >>ERIC COTTON: THANK YOU.
1:40:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. COTTON.
1:40:22PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:40:23PM JOE GIBBONS WITH GULF BAY BUILDERS.
1:40:25PM I'M THE APPLICANT AND HOPEFULLY BUILDER OF THE PROJECT.
1:40:29PM FEW OLD-SCHOOL AERIALS HERE I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE.
1:40:34PM [INAUDIBLE]
1:40:47PM PRIOR TO ME PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, APPROXIMATELY 24 INCHES
1:40:52PM DEEP OF CONCRETE OVER THE ENTIRE SITE.
1:40:57PM [INAUDIBLE]
1:40:59PM THIS IS 34th STREET.
1:41:03PM THIS IS THE PARCEL HERE AND THIS IS 28th AVENUE.
1:41:06PM 34th STREET GOING NORTH.
1:41:15PM 28th AVENUE.
1:41:16PM THIS WOULD BE THE PROPOSED ENTRYWAY.
1:41:20PM THERE IS A VACATED ALLEY HERE THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN I
1:41:25PM PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
1:41:27PM VACATED ALLEY -- [INAUDIBLE] -- FOR MY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
1:41:35PM ANOTHER AERIAL.
1:41:38PM 28th AVENUE.
1:41:40PM 34th STREET.
1:41:42PM SUBJECT PARCEL --
1:41:47PM KIND OF A MOCK-UP.
1:41:49PM 34th STREET GOING NORTH.
1:41:51PM 28th AVENUE.
1:41:52PM FRONT DOOR ORIENTATION IS TO 34th STREET WITH PEDESTRIAN
1:41:55PM WALKWAYS.
1:41:58PM CURRENTLY, THERE IS A HART BUS LINE STOP AND THE PROJECT
1:42:05PM MOVES FORWARD WE'LL BE CONTACTING THEM TO SEE IF WE CAN HELP
1:42:08PM FACILITATE BUILDING ONE OF THE NEW MODERN BUS STOPS LIKE
1:42:12PM THEY JUST PUT IN 22nd AVENUE, JUST SOUTH OF MLK.
1:42:17PM THIS WOULD BE THE PROPOSED DRIVE.
1:42:20PM INDIVIDUAL UNIT PARKING SPACES BEHIND.
1:42:25PM SIDEWALKS COMING UP TO THE REAR OF EACH UNIT.
1:42:28PM EACH UNIT DOES HAVE REAR ACCESS.
1:42:31PM THIS IS THE PROPOSED ELEVATION.
1:42:33PM THIS WOULD BE FRONTING ON 34th STREET.
1:42:35PM PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS, WE WOULD DO A NEW IMPROVED SIDEWALK ON
1:42:42PM 34th STREET AS WELL AS 28th AVENUE.
1:42:45PM ELEVATION, THIS WOULD BE LOOKING NORTH ON 34th STREET.
1:42:51PM THIS IS THE REAR, SHOWS THE REAR ENTRANCE WAYS INTO EACH
1:42:55PM UNIT.
1:42:57PM SIDEWALKS WITH PARKING IN THE BACK.
1:42:59PM ANOTHER REAR ELEVATION.
1:43:04PM SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL TWO YEARS
1:43:24PM AGO, SAME EXACT BUILDING ORIENTATION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING
1:43:28PM HERE.
1:43:28PM THIS IS NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE, COLUMBUS DRIVE IS JUST TO THE
1:43:32PM SOUTH.
1:43:32PM THIS IS EAST WARREN AVENUE.
1:43:35PM WHEN I CAME BEFORE COUNCIL ON THIS PROJECT, IT WAS FOR THE
1:43:38PM SAME TO HAVE ACCESS OFF THE ARTERIAL ROAD HERE WHICH ON THIS
1:43:45PM CASE WAS WARREN AVENUE.
1:43:49PM THIS SHOWS NORTH FLORIDA.
1:43:53PM THIS IS WARREN.
1:43:54PM THE DRIVEWAY COMES INTO THE BACK WITH THE PARKING BEHIND THE
1:43:58PM BUILDING CONFIGURATION.
1:44:00PM THIS IS NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE HEADING SOUTH.
1:44:05PM BUILDING ON THE CORNER HERE.
1:44:08PM WARREN AVENUE DRIVEWAY CAME IN THE BACK WITH THE PARKING IN
1:44:11PM THE BACK, AND IT SHOWS THE INDIVIDUAL ENTRANCE WAYS INTO
1:44:15PM EACH UNIT IN THE REAR.
1:44:18PM THIS IS ANOTHER DRONE PHOTO.
1:44:24PM THIS BUILDING WAS JUST COMPLETED IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.
1:44:29PM I CAME BEFORE COUNCIL I BELIEVE IN 2021.
1:44:32PM THIS IS WARREN AVENUE.
1:44:37PM THIS KIND OF SHOWS WHAT THE PROPOSED BUILDING WOULD LOOK
1:44:42PM LIKE, THIS IS FOR FOUR.
1:44:46PM WE'RE PROPOSING SEVEN UNITS.
1:44:48PM LARGER LOT.
1:44:48PM WARREN AVENUE, OUR APRON.
1:44:51PM WE REBUILT ALL OF THE SIDEWALKS ALONG WARREN AVENUE AND
1:44:53PM ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE, AND THEN THE PARKING IN THE BACK.
1:44:58PM THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS CURRENTLY ZONED CI.
1:45:04PM THE FUTURE LAND USE IS CC 35, WHICH WOULD ALLOW UP TO 12
1:45:09PM UNITS AND I'M REQUESTING THE SIDE ENTRY DRIVE FOR THE
1:45:13PM PROPOSED 7 UNITS.
1:45:15PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
1:45:18PM I'M READY FOR QUESTIONS.
1:45:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
1:45:21PM ANY QUESTIONS?
1:45:25PM SEEING NONE, IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT IS GOING
1:45:30PM TO MAKE COMMENTS FOR THIS CASE, THIS HEARING?
1:45:46PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
1:45:49PM HOW MANY MINUTES DO I HAVE?
1:45:51PM >> THREE.
1:45:52PM >> THREE MINUTES.
1:45:53PM OKAY.
1:45:53PM GREAT.
1:45:54PM THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR RECEIVING ME TODAY.
1:45:56PM I AM FRAN TATE, THE PRESIDENT OF THE JACKSON HEIGHTS
1:46:00PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND CRIME WATCH.
1:46:01PM I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM 86.
1:46:05PM THE NEIGHBORS OF JACKSON HEIGHTS ARE IN FULL DISAGREEMENT
1:46:09PM WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY SEVEN-UNIT
1:46:12PM ATTACHED DWELLING SLATED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AT THE
1:46:15PM LOCATION OF 3505 NORTH 34th STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33605,
1:46:20PM IN THE COMMUNITY OF JACKSON HEIGHTS BY THE GULF BAY
1:46:23PM BUILDERS, LLC FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
1:46:26PM NUMBER ONE, NOT ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN 250 FEET OF THE
1:46:30PM CONSTRUCTION WHO WILL BE GREATLY IMPACTED WERE NOTIFIED.
1:46:35PM ONE NEIGHBOR CAME TO ME JUST YESTERDAY WITH A FRIENDLY
1:46:39PM NEIGHBOR NOTICE IN HAND.
1:46:40PM NO COMMUNITY MEMBERS MEETINGS WERE HELD WITH THE EXISTING
1:46:47PM NEIGHBORS ON NORTH 34th STREET NOR THE JACKSON HEIGHTS
1:46:51PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
1:46:52PM IN OTHER WORDS, THEY DIDN'T COME TO US, CAN WE HAVE A
1:46:55PM MEETING, SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT WE'RE
1:46:57PM PLANNING.
1:46:58PM WE WELCOME AFFORDABLE, AS COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID, ATTAINABLE
1:47:02PM HOUSING IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA, BUT WE DIDN'T GET A
1:47:05PM CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
1:47:06PM WE FEEL THE SEVEN UNITS ATTACHED DWELLING IS NOT SYMPATHETIC
1:47:11PM TO THE CHARACTER NOR THE CHARM OF ALL OF THE SURROUNDING
1:47:15PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES.
1:47:16PM MOST HOUSES ON NORTH 34th STREET HAVE FRONT PORCHES,
1:47:21PM GARAGES, SIDEWALKS, LAWS AND FENCES.
1:47:26PM THREE OF YOU CAME FOR TOURS.
1:47:32PM I THINK COUNCILMAN GUDES, COUNCILMAN, I KNOW YOU CAME.
1:47:39PM YOU CAME FOR ONE.
1:47:40PM AND SO DID COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:47:43PM SO YOU GUYS HAVE A GENERAL IDEA OF THE PROPERTY THAT HE'S
1:47:46PM TALKING ABOUT.
1:47:47PM IT'S ELEVATED.
1:47:48PM THERE IS A TROUBLESOME LIBERTY GAS STATION THAT WE HAVE BEEN
1:47:53PM BACK AND FORTH WITH TRYING TO GET THE WATERING DOWN, TRYING
1:47:57PM TO GET PREVENT THE SHOOTINGS, THE STABBINGS, AND THE
1:48:00PM ROBBERIES UP THERE.
1:48:01PM TPD IS VERY GOOD IN HELPING US WITH THAT PROBLEM.
1:48:05PM BUT THIS PROPERTY IS ON AN ELEVATION.
1:48:08PM HE'S RIGHT.
1:48:09PM 28th STREET WOULD BE THE MAIN ACCESS.
1:48:11PM THE NEIGHBORS ON 28th STREET DON'T WANT THAT.
1:48:14PM THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE VISITOR PARKING SPACES.
1:48:18PM I'M LOOKING AT WHAT MOBILITY, STORMWATER SAID AND THEY SAID
1:48:23PM NO STORMWATER SYSTEM ON THE SITE PLAN.
1:48:29PM I'M LOOKING AT DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
1:48:31PM THEY DEEMED THE PROJECT INCONSISTENT WITH SECTION 28-132.
1:48:36PM TRANSPORTATION HAD A LOT TO SAY ABOUT IT, TALKING ABOUT THE
1:48:41PM PARKING SPACES.
1:48:42PM THERE'S NO ROOM FOR VISITOR PARKING SPACES, WHICH IF THIS
1:48:45PM WAS BUILT, THE VISITORS WOULD BE PARKING ON NORTH 28th
1:48:49PM STREET, POSSIBLY ON MY STREET, WHICH IS CLAY STREET AND THEN
1:48:52PM POSSIBLY ON ANOTHER STREET.
1:48:56PM THERE IS NO ROOM FOR THEIR VISITORS.
1:48:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS MORE, MS. TATE.
1:49:03PM >> PLEASE DENY THIS PETITION TODAY.
1:49:08PM THEY CAN COME BACK WITH A BETTER PROJECT.
1:49:11PM PLEASE, WE WANT THEM TO PLEASE SPEAK TO JACKSON HEIGHTS.
1:49:14PM PLEASE SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY.
1:49:16PM PLEASE SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORS.
1:49:18PM PLEASE SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ABOUT THIS.
1:49:20PM THAT IS TOO BIG OF A CONSTRUCTION ON THAT LITTLE LOT.
1:49:23PM THANK YOU.
1:49:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:49:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR THE RECORD MS. TATE
1:49:30PM MENTIONED THAT SHE AND HER NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS GAVE ME A
1:49:33PM TOUR.
1:49:34PM THAT WAS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND IT WAS NOT ABOUT
1:49:37PM ANY SPECIFIC PROJECT.
1:49:38PM IT WAS A GENERAL TOUR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT WAS WELL
1:49:40PM BEFORE THIS PROJECT CAME UP.
1:49:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WANTING TO SPEAK?
1:49:46PM PLEASE FORM A LINE, MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT.
1:50:01PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
1:50:03PM ROBIN LOCKETT.
1:50:05PM I THINK, AGAIN, LIFE IS ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES.
1:50:08PM SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO LISTEN TO THE
1:50:12PM PEOPLE, LISTEN TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS AND COME TO AN EQUAL
1:50:17PM MEDIUM ON THIS.
1:50:19PM THEY WANT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
1:50:21PM AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHOULD BE HAD.
1:50:25PM THEY HAVE OUTLINED CERTAIN ISSUES WITH THE -- WITH THAT
1:50:30PM BUILDING, SO IF THE DEVELOPER HADN'T HAD A CONVERSATION WITH
1:50:35PM THE COMMUNITY, THEN I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO
1:50:37PM BE DONE.
1:50:39PM THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THOSE PEOPLE, THEY ARE
1:50:42PM HOMEOWNERS.
1:50:42PM THEY ARE NOT RENTERS.
1:50:43PM THEY ARE HOMEOWNERS.
1:50:44PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
1:50:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
1:50:49PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:50:51PM MY NAME IS EVELYN JOHNSON.
1:50:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. JOHNSON, YOU WERE NOT SWORN IN.
1:50:56PM CAN I GET YOU SWORN?
1:50:57PM IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WILL GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT
1:51:03PM NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN?
1:51:04PM THANK YOU.
1:51:05PM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
1:51:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MS. JOHNSON.
1:51:13PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
1:51:15PM MY NAME IS EVELYN JOHNSON.
1:51:18PM I AM A RESIDENT OF 3509 34th STREET.
1:51:22PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT 3509 34th STREET.
1:51:28PM THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, THE FOUNDATION THAT WAS ACTUALLY
1:51:35PM WHERE IT FINALLY STARTED THERE, THEY STARTED TEARING DOWN
1:51:41PM THE WEEDS, THE TREES, THE BUSHES, AND LOOKING AT THE
1:51:46PM NEIGHBORS.
1:51:47PM THERE WAS NO CONSIDERATION FROM THE BEGINNING BECAUSE
1:51:52PM FLORIDA IS REALLY HOT.
1:51:53PM THERE'S NOT A LOT OF RAIN GOING ON.
1:51:56PM IT WAS A LOT OF DIRT, DUST, AND THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY WATER
1:52:03PM TRUCKS OUT THERE GRAZING THE GROUND.
1:52:09PM PEOPLE HAVE ASTHMA.
1:52:12PM THEY HAVE OCD, THEY HAVE ALL KIND OF HEALTH ISSUES.
1:52:15PM YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE ON MACHINES, LOW-INCOME PEOPLE
1:52:21PM WITH BAD HEALTH.
1:52:22PM SO THAT WAS NOT CONSIDERED.
1:52:24PM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
1:52:25PM I WENT OUT AND I SPOKE TO THE PERSON THAT WAS IN CHARGE.
1:52:31PM HE TOLD ME A BUNCH OF EXCUSES THAT HE WOULD GET WITH THE
1:52:36PM WATER DEPARTMENT.
1:52:38PM THEY HADN'T GOT THERE YET, BUT HE WOULD BE THERE TO -- HE
1:52:43PM WOULD TAKE A COUPLE OF DAYS MORE, JUST TWO DAYS MORE TO
1:52:47PM TIGHTEN UP THE AREA, AND THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
1:52:51PM MEANTIME, DUST, ALL KIND OF THINGS, PEOPLE WITH
1:52:58PM AIR-CONDITIONERS.
1:52:59PM THERE'S A LOT OF NEW HOMES COMING UP, AND YOU'VE GOT TO
1:53:02PM THINK DUST, ALL THE NEW HOMES AND THE PEOPLE GOING TO SLEEP,
1:53:07PM GOING TO WORK, CAN'T BREATHE, THE SINUS, THE POLLEN, NOW
1:53:12PM WE'VE GOT DIRT, DUST IN OUR EVENTS AND STUFF.
1:53:16PM IF THEY ARE NOT THINKING ABOUT LITTLE SMALL DETAILS LIKE
1:53:20PM THAT AND THEY WANT TO PUT THESE BIG 5,000, 3,000 DOLLAR
1:53:28PM HOMES THERE, THEY ARE NOT THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE.
1:53:31PM THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT THE MONEY.
1:53:34PM I WENT OUT THERE AGAIN TO SPEAK WITH HIM AND HE SAID, WELL,
1:53:40PM YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT I'LL DO, I'LL PAY YOU TO WASH YOUR CARS
1:53:47PM FOR EVERYONE -- ALL THE CARS THAT WAS THERE.
1:53:51PM THAT NEVER TOOK PLACE.
1:53:53PM THIS GUY GOT UP AND JUST LEFT EVERYBODY THAT WAS THERE WITH
1:53:57PM DUSTY CARS, PACKED HIS BAG UP AND LEFT.
1:54:00PM I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN JUST THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.
1:54:06PM JUST THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.
1:54:07PM THEIR PARKING, I JUST FOUND OUT SEVEN HOMES THERE.
1:54:12PM SEVEN HOMES AND EACH HOME IS ABOUT -- IT'S NOT TWO PEOPLE
1:54:17PM PER HOME.
1:54:18PM AROUND ABOUT THREE TO FOUR PEOPLE.
1:54:20PM THREE TO FOUR PEOPLE TIMES SEVEN --
1:54:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS MORE.
1:54:26PM >> THREE TO FOUR PEOPLE IN ONE HOME TIMES SEVEN, AND YOU GOT
1:54:32PM ALL OF THESE PEOPLE IN ONE HOME AND TWO LOTS NOW.
1:54:35PM THIS IS JUST TWO LOTS.
1:54:37PM NOT THREE LOTS.
1:54:38PM TWO LOTS AND YOU'RE PUTTING ALL THIS UP IN ONE AREA.
1:54:42PM THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM FOR THIS.
1:54:44PM IT'S NOT.
1:54:45PM IT'S NOT A LOT OF ROOM.
1:54:47PM IT TAKES A SCIENTIST OR A BLIND MAN TO SEE.
1:54:51PM IT'S NOT.
1:54:52PM IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
1:54:54PM IF IT WAS TWO -- IF IT WAS THREE, YES, BUT SEVEN, NO, NO.
1:55:00PM I DISAGREE.
1:55:01PM TOTALLY.
1:55:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
1:55:16PM >> HELLO.
1:55:17PM MY NAME IS MARISHA LORLYN.
1:55:23PM I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET.
1:55:24PM THIS IS REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION ON 3505 NORTH 34th
1:55:28PM STREET.
1:55:29PM BECAUSE I MOVED RECENTLY ACROSS THE STREET, I'M THERE 24/7
1:55:35PM AND I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
1:55:37PM I WANTED TO SHARE CONCERNS.
1:55:38PM I'M VERY EXCITED THAT THERE IS A DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN OUR
1:55:41PM AREA.
1:55:41PM MY ONLY CONCERN IS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE
1:55:44PM MENTIONED LIKE PARKING.
1:55:45PM SO I THINK THE PROPOSED BUILDING IS OVERLY LARGE FOR TWO
1:55:49PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME LOTS.
1:55:51PM THEY ARE PLANNING ON SEVEN RESIDENCES.
1:55:54PM THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY TIGHT.
1:55:57PM AND THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING DOESN'T MATCH THE OTHER
1:56:00PM HOUSES ON THE STREET.
1:56:01PM THERE'S ACTUALLY A CONTINUITY OF COMMUNITY, AND THE SIGNS
1:56:06PM THAT HE SHOWED DID NOT HAVE THE NEW CONSTRUCTION HOMES.
1:56:10PM THOSE LOOK LIKE EMPTY LOTS.
1:56:11PM THE NEW CONSTRUCTION, THERE'S BRAND-NEW HOMES THAT ARE BUILT
1:56:15PM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
1:56:16PM THEY ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND ON THE SIDE STREETS OF 28TH
1:56:20PM STREET, BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH.
1:56:21PM ONE THING I DID NOTICE IS THE STREET TRAFFIC IS ALREADY
1:56:25PM HEAVY IN THAT AREA, 34th IS A HEAVY STREET WITH A BUS STOP
1:56:29PM AND ADDING POTENTIALLY 14 TO 25 NEW SPACES IS GOING TO
1:56:33PM INCREASE THE CONGESTION.
1:56:35PM THE BUS STOP, JUST SO YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY IS IT AN ADULT BUS
1:56:41PM STOP, THERE IS ALSO A CHILDREN'S BUS STOP ON THE CORNER.
1:56:44PM TWICE A DAY, PARENTS DROP OFF THEIR KIDS, ONES THAT DON'T
1:56:47PM WANT THEM WALKING IN THE HEAT, SO THERE ARE A LINE OF CARS
1:56:50PM ON 28th STREET.
1:56:52PM MY ONLY CONCERN IS YOU CAN'T PARK ON 34th STREET SO 28th
1:56:56PM STREET BECOMES THE ACCESS LANE.
1:56:57PM TWICE A DAY THOSE PARENTS, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK?
1:57:00PM THEY LINE UP ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET TO PICK UP THEIR
1:57:03PM KIDS AS THEY COME HOME FROM THE BUS.
1:57:06PM THE OLDER ONES CAN OBVIOUSLY WALK.
1:57:08PM THE OTHER THING IS MATURE TREES, ARE THEY GOING TO STAY OR
1:57:12PM EVERYTHING DEMOLISHED?
1:57:13PM BECAUSE THE PLANS LOOK LIKE THE BUILDING IS RIGHT UP TO THE
1:57:17PM EDGE OF THE BUS STOP.
1:57:18PM SOMETHING WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN WITH THE BUS STOP.
1:57:20PM I KNOW THAT TAMPA IS A CITY OF VERY GOOD URBAN PLANNING, BUT
1:57:24PM HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT AND HIS OTHER CONSTRUCTION --
1:57:29PM HAVE BEEN CLOSER TO THE CITY.
1:57:31PM THIS PRODUCT IS MORE TO THE BURB AND THERE IS A DIFFERENT
1:57:35PM TYPE OF PLAN ON THAT.
1:57:36PM THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS NOT AS MANY UNITS ON SUCH A
1:57:40PM SMALL LOT OF LAND.
1:57:42PM THANK YOU.
1:57:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
1:57:48PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:57:49PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
1:57:51PM WHEN YOU PUT IN A SPECIAL USE 1, YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE
1:57:56PM ANY WAIVERS.
1:57:56PM I THINK THERE ARE THREE.
1:57:58PM THERE WERE THREE ISSUES THAT WERE WRITTEN ON THE SITE PLANS.
1:58:00PM FIRST OF ALL, THERE WEREN'T SIDEWALKS DELEGATED.
1:58:03PM THE OTHER ONE WAS THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH PARKING.
1:58:06PM AND THEN THE THIRD ONE IS IT'S NOT ON AN ARTERIAL.
1:58:10PM THIS GENTLEMAN GOT UP HERE AND SHOWED YOU SOMETHING FROM
1:58:14PM 2021.
1:58:15PM GUESS WHAT, IT WAS ON AN ARTERIAL.
1:58:17PM I WOULD ASK YOU, AND MS. KATE CALLED ME LAST NIGHT AND ASKED
1:58:21PM ME IF I WOULD HELP OUT WITH THIS, I WOULD ASK YOU HOW WIDE
1:58:24PM ARE THE TWO STREETS THAT THEY ARE ANTICIPATING PUTTING THE
1:58:26PM EXTRA CARS ON.
1:58:28PM TALKING ABOUT THREE-BEDROOM UNITS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT
1:58:31PM LEAST TWO ADDITIONAL CARS.
1:58:32PM MOST OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE SEE LIKE THIS HAVE GARAGES.
1:58:35PM THIS ONE DOESN'T.
1:58:36PM SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FOUR PARKING SPACES PER UNIT,
1:58:39PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO PARKING SPACES PER UNIT.
1:58:42PM BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS GOES BACK TO MY NEW ISSUE.
1:58:48PM WE HAVE FUTURE LAND USE.
1:58:50PM WE HAVE ZONING FOR A REASON.
1:58:54PM EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE RULES ARE.
1:58:57PM IF THEY DON'T, AND I JUST DID AN SU-1 WITH MR. COTTON, YOU
1:59:02PM KNOW WHAT'S, EVERYBODY ON STAFF WILL ANSWER QUESTIONS.
1:59:05PM WHY DO WE KEEP PUSHING PAST THE NO TO THE PARENTS TO ASK THE
1:59:12PM PARENTS TO GIVE THEM AN EXCEPTION?
1:59:15PM THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING SEVEN DWELLING UNITS
1:59:21PM ON TWO LOTS.
1:59:22PM IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS.
1:59:24PM LET'S PARE IT DOWN.
1:59:25PM WHY HAVEN'T WE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD?
1:59:27PM I MEAN, SERIOUSLY HERE WE ARE AT THE HEARING AND NOBODY HAS
1:59:33PM TALKED TO ANYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:59:34PM THAT'S A REAL ISSUE FOR THEM.
1:59:37PM WE'RE ALL ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS, NO GARAGES, AND IF I'M
1:59:41PM WRONG, PLEASE GET UP HERE AND CORRECT ME, BUT THOSE THREE
1:59:44PM THINGS WERE ON THE SITE PLANS THAT THOSE WERE ISSUES.
1:59:46PM I'M LOOKING AT THIS GIANT PARKING LOT AND THIS BUILDING.
1:59:51PM HONESTLY, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT RECENTLY THE PERMEABLE
1:59:55PM SURFACES, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF THE
2:00:00PM LOT COVERED WITH A NONPERMEABLE SURFACE.
2:00:02PM THIS IS GOING TO CREATE BIGGER FLOODING ISSUES EVENTUALLY.
2:00:05PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:00:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:00:12PM >> HOW'S IT GOING, GUYS?
2:00:14PM JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'M WITH CLANDESTINE OPERATIONS.
2:00:19PM WE'RE DOING A SWEEP INVESTIGATION OF THE FLOOR.
2:00:22PM EVERYTHING SEEMS FINE SO FAR BUT A LADY WHO POTENTIALLY
2:00:26PM COULD BE UP TO SOMETHING CLANDESTINE.
2:00:29PM WE'LL KEEP INVESTIGATING THE MATTER.
2:00:32PM WE'RE IN THE BUILDING, IF YOU NEED ME, WE'RE HERE.
2:00:35PM I GREW UP IN TAMPA BAY, GREW UP FISHING HERE.
2:00:38PM GOOD AT CATCHING TARPON AND REDFISH.
2:00:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SIR, ARE YOU SPEAKING TO THIS AGENDA ITEM?
2:00:45PM >> JUST IN GENERAL.
2:00:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS IS NOT PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:00:48PM THIS IS SPEAKING SPECIFICALLY TO THIS AGENDA ITEM.
2:00:53PM >> OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:00:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO, WE ALREADY HAD PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:00:56PM >> YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.
2:00:59PM >> I'M WITH CLANDESTINE OPERATIONS.
2:01:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
2:01:05PM >> PAUL.
2:01:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PAUL, YES?
2:01:10PM >> PAUL. PAUL PAUL.
2:01:13PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME?
2:01:15PM >> PAUL.
2:01:16PM LAST NAME IS PAUL, TOO.
2:01:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND.
2:01:21PM YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO THIS AGENDA ITEM.
2:01:24PM >> I THOUGHT IT WAS PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:01:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
2:01:26PM WE ALREADY HAD PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:01:31PM >> I HAD SOME ITEMS I WANTED TO SUBMIT.
2:01:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD.
2:01:34PM SUBMIT THEM TO MR. SHELBY, PLEASE.
2:01:55PM THANK YOU.
2:01:57PM IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO
2:02:00PM THIS AGENDA ITEM?
2:02:01PM MR. SHELBY.
2:02:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU.
2:02:05PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
2:02:09PM COUNCIL, A REMINDER THAT THIS IS A REVIEW HEARING.
2:02:13PM THIS IS NOT A PD.
2:02:14PM THIS IS NOT A REZONING.
2:02:17PM MY SUGGESTION IS RATHER THAN MAKE STATEMENTS, IF WHAT WAS
2:02:21PM RAISED, RAISE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE STAFF PRESENT, YOU
2:02:23PM HAVE LEGAL PRESENT.
2:02:24PM PHRASE IT IN THE FORM OF A QUESTION SO YOU CAN UNDERSTAND
2:02:27PM THE CONTEXT ABOUT WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND WHY IT IS BEFORE YOU
2:02:32PM IN THE FORM THAT IT IS.
2:02:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:02:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK THE CITY
2:02:40PM REPRESENTATIVE HERE.
2:02:41PM THE WORD LOT WAS MENTIONED MANY TIME BUT NO ONE SAID THE
2:02:46PM SIZE OF THE LOTS.
2:02:47PM ACCURATE DIMENSION OF THE LOTS, WIDTH AND LENGTH.
2:02:53PM >>ERIC COTTON: IT IS DIFFICULT TO READ.
2:02:54PM I APOLOGIZE.
2:02:57PM THE APPLICANT IS SAYING 137 ALONG NORTH 34th AND 130 FEET
2:03:10PM ALONG 28th AVENUE.
2:03:12PM THANK YOU.
2:03:13PM THE PROPERTY IS ZONED CI.
2:03:17PM IT'S NOT ZONED SINGLE-FAMILY.
2:03:18PM I THINK SOMEBODY MADE THE COMMENT THAT IT IS ZONED
2:03:20PM SINGLE-FAMILY.
2:03:21PM IT'S NOT.
2:03:21PM IT'S ZONED COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
2:03:23PM THE USES ALLOWED ON THAT LOT WOULD BE ANY COMMERCIAL
2:03:29PM INTENSIVE USES.
2:03:29PM THE SPECIAL USE IS TO ESTABLISH A RESIDENTIAL USE ON THE
2:03:29PM PROPERTY.
2:03:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
2:03:36PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:03:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WHAT TYPES OF USES? CAN YOU EXPAND ON
2:03:43PM WHAT TYPES OF THINGS COULD GO ON THAT LOT?
2:03:45PM >>ERIC COTTON: COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE IS AN INTENSIVE
2:03:48PM COMMERCIAL LOT IS A STEP BELOW THE IG.
2:03:51PM BETWEEN COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
2:03:54PM USES INCLUDE THE GENERAL USES LIKE YOU NORMALLY SEE, A GAS
2:03:59PM STATION, CONVENIENCE STORE, RETAIL, LIKE A PUBLIX, ALDI OR
2:04:04PM WHATEVER.
2:04:04PM IT ALSO ALLOWS CAR LOTS, HEAVY VEHICLE REPAIR.
2:04:08PM SO IT RUNS -- IT'S A PRETTY WIDE GAMUT OF WHAT CAN BE PUT ON
2:04:13PM THAT PROPERTY, ASSUMING THEY MEET ALL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS
2:04:16PM AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH DEVELOPMENT.
2:04:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
2:04:22PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:04:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY FOLLOW THE SAME THING.
2:04:28PM WE HAVE 137 FEET ACROSS ON 34th AVENUE AND THE DEPARTMENT
2:04:32PM IS 130, AM I CORRECT?
2:04:34PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
2:04:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU GO BY A STANDING BUILDING LOT, HOW
2:04:39PM DOES THAT CORRELATE WITH WHAT WE HAVE THERE NOW LOOKING AT A
2:04:42PM SEVEN UNIT APARTMENT OR COMPLEX, RESIDENTIAL.
2:04:45PM >>ERIC COTTON: IT HAS TO MEET RM 24 STANDARDS, HAS TO MEET
2:04:48PM THE 25 IN THE FRONT ALONG 34th, 20 IN THE REAR ADJACENT TO
2:04:52PM THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE, 7 OFF OF 28th AND 7 OFF THE
2:04:56PM NORTH.
2:04:57PM ANYTHING IN THAT FOOTPRINT CAN BE BUILT.
2:05:00PM BECAUSE THESE ARE GOING TO BE TOWNHOME LOTS IN A SENSE, THE
2:05:05PM MINIMUM LOT SIZE YOU WOULD NORMALLY HAVE FOR A TYPICAL RS
2:05:09PM 50, 60 LOT, 50 OR 60 FEET WIDE DOESN'T APPLY.
2:05:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT WIDTH WOULD IT BE IF YOU HAD FIVE
2:05:21PM UNITS?
2:05:22PM WHAT WIDTH WITH SIX UNITS?
2:05:23PM WHAT WIDTH WITH SEVEN UNITS?
2:05:25PM WHAT WIDTH WITH FOUR UNITS?
2:05:27PM >>ERIC COTTON: THE BUILDING ITSELF?
2:05:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:05:29PM >>ERIC COTTON: THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO ANSWER.
2:05:31PM I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU ON THAT ONE.
2:05:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WITHOUT MEETING THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS
2:05:38PM --
2:05:38PM >>ERIC COTTON: AS LONG AS THE SETBACKS ARE MET, DEPENDING
2:05:40PM UPON HOW HE DESIGNS THE STRUCTURES TO MAKE EVERYTHING FIT
2:05:44PM INSIDE, HE COULD HAVE ONE STRUCTURE OR ONE UNIT.
2:05:48PM HE COULD HAVE UP TO 12 UNITS IF FUNCTIONALLY THAT WOULD BE
2:05:52PM ABLE TO BE DESIGNED.
2:05:55PM I WANT TO REITERATE, THE ONLY WAIVER THEY ARE HERE BEFORE
2:06:01PM CITY COUNCIL IS FOR IS ACCESS ON TO THE ARTERIAL COLLECTOR
2:06:05PM ROAD.
2:06:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.
2:06:09PM MAYBE I'M ASKING THE WRONG PERSON BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT MAKING
2:06:12PM THE PROJECT.
2:06:12PM SOMEONE ELSE'S PROJECT.
2:06:14PM ASK A BLANK QUESTION.
2:06:15PM IF YOU HAVE SIX UNITS, YOUR AVERAGE WIDTH WOULD BE ABOUT 23
2:06:21PM FEET.
2:06:22PM THAT EQUALS 178 FEET.
2:06:29PM I DON'T GET THE AMOUNT OF UNITS AND THE SPACE THAT YOU HAVE
2:06:32PM FOR THE CORRECTION OF 137-FOOT FRONTAGE.
2:06:36PM >>ERIC COTTON: ASK THE APPLICANT TO RESPOND TO THAT.
2:06:40PM A TYPICAL TOWNHOME WITH A TWO CAR GARAGE IS ONLY ABOUT 25
2:06:44PM FEET WIDE.
2:06:45PM IT IS A NARROW -- TOWNHOMES CAN BE VERY NARROW IN
2:06:50PM DEVELOPMENT STYLE.
2:06:51PM AGAIN, I'LL LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS FOR
2:06:56PM SPECIFICITY.
2:06:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
2:07:00PM THANK YOU, MR. COTTON.
2:07:02PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DID YOU WANT TO ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS
2:07:08PM OF THE APPLICANT?
2:07:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M SURE THE GENTLEMAN ASKING FOR THIS
2:07:13PM HEARD THE CONVERSATION.
2:07:18PM >> WE'VE BUILT TOWNHOMES.
2:07:19PM WE JUST FINISHED A PROJECT ON THE CORNER OF 24th STREET
2:07:23PM AND COLUMBUS DRIVE ON A VERY -- I WON'T EVEN GO INTO THE
2:07:28PM DETAILS.
2:07:28PM I THINK I REACHED OUT TO YOUR OFFICE FOR HELP WITH THE LOT.
2:07:31PM THAT PARTICULAR TOWNHOME WAS 16 FEET WIDE.
2:07:34PM THESE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY ARE 18 FEET.
2:07:37PM MOST TOWNHOMES WE BUILD ARE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 18 AND 20 FEET.
2:07:40PM THE PROJECT WE JUST FINISHED AT NORTH MORGAN STREET AND
2:07:43PM ESTELLE, A 24-UNIT PROJECT, THOSE WERE 20 FEET WIDE.
2:07:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANTED TO GET AN IDEA.
2:07:51PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:07:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:07:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AFTER HEARING WHAT YOU HEARD TODAY, DO YOU
2:08:02PM HAVE ANY INTEREST IN MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY?
2:08:06PM >> SURE, BY ALL MEANS.
2:08:07PM I'M DOING MY PART ON THE MAYOR'S REQUEST OF BUILDING
2:08:13PM ATTAINABLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
2:08:15PM YOU'VE HEARD SHE WANTS DOORS.
2:08:17PM THIS IS A PROJECT WE'VE DONE SEVERAL TIMES IN THE CITY.
2:08:20PM WE HAVE ANOTHER PROJECT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW JUST AT THE
2:08:23PM ROUNDABOUT JUST SOUTH OF BELMONT HEIGHTS.
2:08:26PM SAME EXACT.
2:08:28PM VERY SUCCESSFUL.
2:08:29PM 2010 NORTH FLORIDA, MOST OF THE PEOPLE BUYING THESE ARE
2:08:32PM SINGLE PEOPLE.
2:08:33PM THEY HAVE ONE CAR.
2:08:34PM SOME OF THEM HAVE SCOOTERS.
2:08:39PM WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUR PART.
2:08:41PM THEY DON'T HAVE GARAGES BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE
2:08:43PM COST DOWN AND MAKE THEM ATTAINABLE.
2:08:45PM CONSTRUCTION COSTS RIGHT NOW ARE ASTRONOMICAL, AND WE'RE
2:08:49PM TRYING TO DO OUR PART PER THE MAYOR'S REQUEST OF PROVIDING
2:08:53PM DOORS, ATTAINABLE DOORS.
2:08:55PM WE THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
2:08:57PM WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE, I MEAN, I'M PRETTY PROUD OF MYSELF OF
2:09:03PM CLEANING UP WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
2:09:05PM I WASN'T THERE, UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN MY EXCAVATORS WERE
2:09:09PM THERE.
2:09:10PM TWO-DAY PERIOD OF TAKING OUT ALL OF THE CONCRETE.
2:09:12PM WE REQUESTED TO HAVE A WATER METER, BUT THE WATER DEPARTMENT
2:09:17PM IS BACKED UP AND DIDN'T GET IT THERE IN TIME AND TOOK TWO
2:09:20PM DAYS TO CLEAR UP THE SITE.
2:09:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T THINK IT'S JUST THE MAYOR'S VISION
2:09:26PM OF ATTAINABLE.
2:09:28PM I THINK THIS COUNCIL'S VISION OF MAKING SURE WE HAVE
2:09:30PM ATTAINABLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY.
2:09:33PM IT'S NOT JUST THE MAYOR ADVOCATING.
2:09:38PM NOT JUST THE MAYOR WHO IS ADVOCATING AFFORDABLE OR
2:09:40PM ATTAINABLE HOUSING.
2:09:41PM COUNCIL HAS BEEN ADVOCATING THAT FROM DAY ONE.
2:09:46PM I GUESS THE PROBLEM I'M LOOKING AT, I KNOW THE AREA LIKE THE
2:09:53PM BACK OF MY HAND.
2:09:58PM IN THE CONCENTRATION OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA BOTHERS ME.
2:10:04PM AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING, IT LOOKS VERY
2:10:13PM BEAUTIFUL.
2:10:14PM I CAN'T DENY THAT.
2:10:15PM BUT FOR ME LOOKING AT THE STREETS OF 28th AVENUE AND
2:10:22PM 34th STREET, AND THAT SIZE BUILDING, THAT'S CONCERNING TO
2:10:25PM ME WITH THE TRAFFIC.
2:10:31PM WE HAVE A SCHOOL THAT'S RIGHT THERE, RECREATIONAL CENTER ON
2:10:35PM THE NORTH -- NORTHWEST CORNER I BELIEVE.
2:10:39PM HEAVY TRAFFIC DURING CERTAIN PERIODS.
2:10:44PM I'M GOING TO LISTEN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER BUT I'VE GOT A FEW
2:10:47PM CONCERNS.
2:10:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
2:10:51PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
2:11:00PM REBUTTAL.
2:11:03PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE ANY TIME FOR REBUTTAL?
2:11:06PM >> CERTAINLY.
2:11:07PM THE REQUEST IS HERE TO HAVE THE ACCESS DRIVE COMING IN OFF
2:11:12PM OF 28th AVENUE.
2:11:13PM 34th STREET IS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE A
2:11:19PM PART OF THAT BY PROVIDING DECENT ATTAINABLE HOUSING IN THE
2:11:22PM AREA.
2:11:22PM I'VE PROVEN OTHER PROJECTS THAT I'VE COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL
2:11:26PM TO REQUEST WAIVERS SUCH AS THIS FOR THE DRIVE TO COME IN OFF
2:11:32PM THE SIDE ROAD.
2:11:34PM THAT DIMENSION, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, OF THE 130 FEET DEEP
2:11:39PM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE VACATED ALLEYWAY THAT CITY STAFF SAID
2:11:42PM THAT I CAN INCORPORATE INTO THE PROJECT.
2:11:46PM TECHNICALLY THE SITE IS 137.5 FEET DEEP.
2:11:50PM THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING FITS WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE
2:11:53PM RM 24 THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED.
2:11:55PM THE WAIVER THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS FOR THE ENTRANCE TO COME
2:11:57PM OFF OF 28th AVENUE.
2:12:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:12:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I REALLY WISH THAT MORE COMMUNITY
2:12:14PM CONVERSATION WAS HAD ABOUT THIS BEFOREHAND.
2:12:18PM THAT'S WHERE I'M STUCK RIGHT NOW.
2:12:21PM I THINK IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF YOU COULD HAVE THAT
2:12:23PM COMMUNITY CONVERSATION.
2:12:32PM POSSIBLY PRIOR TO US MAKING THIS VOTE.
2:12:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE A DECISION.
2:12:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, THE CASE BEFORE YOU IS WHAT
2:12:52PM YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
2:12:54PM THIS IS A REVIEW HEARING OF A ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S
2:12:57PM DECISION BASED ON A EUCLIDEAN REZONING.
2:13:02PM AND WHAT YOU HAVE, AGAIN, IS THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE,
2:13:07PM FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM MS. PETTIS-MACKLE, HAVE BEEN MET
2:13:10PM TO BE ABLE TO BRING IT BEFORE COUNCIL.
2:13:12PM WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE OF NOTICE AND THE LIKE
2:13:17PM BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE SAME KIND OF NOTICE THAT YOU WOULD
2:13:19PM NECESSARILY HAVE IN A REZONING.
2:13:20PM AND THERE'S ALSO -- DID YOU WANT TO CHIME IN AND ADD
2:13:24PM ANYTHING ELSE?
2:13:24PM WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, COUNCIL, IS THAT, AGAIN, IF
2:13:31PM THERE'S ANYTHING TO BE SPECIFICALLY ACCOMPLISHED RELATING TO
2:13:34PM THE DECISION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THAT HAS TO BE
2:13:38PM MADE, THAT MIGHT BE ACCOMPLISHED BY A MEETING WITH REGARD TO
2:13:43PM THE ACCESS, THEN THAT'S THE PETITIONER'S -- EXCUSE ME, YEAH,
2:13:49PM THE PETITIONER'S REQUEST IF HE WISHES TO DO SO.
2:13:53PM AGAIN, NO OBLIGATION IN THE CODE IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE THAT
2:13:56PM HE IS REQUIRED TO DO SO.
2:13:58PM AGAIN, ALSO, A REMINDER THAT WHATEVER DECISION YOU DO BASE
2:14:02PM HAS TO BE BASED ON EVIDENCE, NOT ON YOUR PERSONAL
2:14:05PM EXPERIENCE.
2:14:06PM IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO CITE TO, YOU HAVE STAFF,
2:14:10PM YOU HAVE THE APPLICANT AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SPOKEN
2:14:13PM WHO MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY
2:14:15PM NEED IN ORDER TO BASE THAT DECISION.
2:14:20PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY
2:14:24PM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
2:14:25PM I WANT TO REMIND CITY COUNCIL THIS IS A REVIEW HEARING OF A
2:14:28PM DECISION THAT WAS MADE BY STAFF.
2:14:30PM THIS IS NOT A REZONING.
2:14:32PM THIS IS NOT THAT TYPE OF APPLICATION.
2:14:34PM THE PETITIONER IS BEFORE YOU ASKING CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER
2:14:39PM WAIVING THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE PROJECT FROM
2:14:43PM AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR STREET.
2:14:45PM IF THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED
2:14:48PM NOTICE OF THE SPECIAL USE APPLICATION, IF THAT IS THE
2:14:52PM QUESTION THAT CITY COUNCIL IS ASKING, STAFF CAN PROVIDE THAT
2:14:55PM INFORMATION.
2:14:55PM BUT THERE ARE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SPECIAL --
2:14:58PM UNDERLYING SPECIAL USE APPLICATION.
2:15:06PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:15:09PM NOTICE WAS REQUIRED TWICE.
2:15:12PM EVERYBODY WITHIN THE 250 FEET, PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATIONS,
2:15:16PM AND IT WAS NOTICED AGAIN FOR THE PETITION TO REVIEW, MOST
2:15:19PM LIKELY, UNLESS THERE WAS PROPERTY SOLD TO THE SAME
2:15:23PM INDIVIDUALS AND THE PARTICIPATING ORGANIZATION.
2:15:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:15:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN, MR. COTTON, THE DENIAL FROM THE
2:15:30PM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR WAS BECAUSE THE SITE SHALL HAVE A
2:15:33PM DIRECT ACCESS TO AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR STREET AS SHOWN ON
2:15:36PM A MAJOR MAP, CORRECT?
2:15:37PM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
2:15:38PM IF HE WAS ABLE TO DESIGN IT WITH ACCESS DIRECTLY OFF OF
2:15:41PM 34th, WE WOULD NOT BE HERE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT
2:15:43PM NOW.
2:15:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
2:15:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PETITIONER, ANY LAST REBUTTAL STATEMENTS?
2:15:53PM >> NO, AS MR. COTTON MENTIONED, I WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO
2:15:55PM HAVE THE DRIVE COME IN OFF 34th STREET.
2:15:58PM BUT FOR SAFETY REASONS, I'M REQUESTING, AS I DID ON THE ONE
2:16:02PM AT 2801 NORTH FLORIDA, FOR THE FOLKS HERE IN FRONT OF ME WAS
2:16:07PM FOR THAT REASON, WAS FOR THE SAFETY AND WELL-BEING OF MORE
2:16:13PM OF A RESIDENTIAL DRIVE.
2:16:15PM I GUESS AT ONE TIME THERE WAS PROBABLY AN ALLEY THERE.
2:16:22PM THAT'S WHY OWN HALF OF A VACANT ALLEY.
2:16:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:16:30PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:16:34PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:16:35PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:16:36PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:16:38PM MOTION PASSES.
2:16:40PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
2:16:41PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:16:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MOVE TO UPHOLD THE ZONING
2:16:45PM ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF THE SPECIAL USE 1 APPLICATION
2:16:47PM SU-1-23-23 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3505 NORTH 34th STREET
2:16:53PM BECAUSE THE PETITIONER DID NOT PROVIDE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
2:16:56PM EVIDENCE TO DEMONSTRATE THE SPECIFIC CRITERIA IN THE CITY OF
2:16:58PM TAMPA CODE, SECTION 27-132 REGARDING ACCESS TO ARTERIAL OR
2:17:02PM COLLECTOR STREET SHOULD BE WAIVED.
2:17:04PM WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC.
2:17:06PM WE'VE HEARD CONCERNS.
2:17:07PM WE'VE HEARD ABOUT TRAFFIC.
2:17:09PM WE'VE HEARD ABOUT WHERE AUTOMOBILES WILL BE PARKING, WIDTH
2:17:13PM OF THE STREET, ACCESS, JUST THROUGH THOSE STREETS AND I
2:17:18PM DON'T FIND THIS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA
2:17:21PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OVERALL.
2:17:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
2:17:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION THAT HAS BEEN MADE BY
2:17:28PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:17:33PM IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
2:17:34PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
2:17:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:17:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:17:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:17:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:17:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:17:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:17:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:17:54PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:18:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. PETTIS-MACKLE, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I DON'T
2:18:19PM KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OR NOT, SUPPOSED TO BE A REPORT ABOUT
2:18:25PM -- AH, I DIDN'T SEE YOU.
2:18:28PM NEVER MIND, THANK YOU MS. PETTIS-MACKLE.
2:18:32PM MS. WYNN.
2:18:35PM I BELIEVE CHIEF OF STAFF WANTED TO GIVE US A BRIEF UPDATE ON
2:18:43PM VILA BROTHERS PARK.
2:18:44PM >>OCEA WYNN: ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
2:18:48PM AFFAIRS.
2:18:48PM I'LL HAVE STAFF MEMBERS, SHERISHA HILLS AND CHRIS THOMPSON
2:18:53PM COME AND GIVE A REPORT.
2:18:55PM I WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, FURTHER
2:18:57PM QUESTIONS, IF NEEDED.
2:18:58PM VILA BROTHERS.
2:19:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:19:05PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE ARE
2:19:07PM CONFUSED.
2:19:08PM YOU WANT TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT JUST HAPPENED.
2:19:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, IT WAS REJECTED.
2:19:14PM WE UPHELD THE MAGISTRATE'S DECISION.
2:19:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
2:19:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE DENIED THE APPLICATION.
2:19:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE PETITION FOR REVIEW WAS DENIED AND THE
2:19:28PM DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR WAS UPHELD.
2:19:34PM >> YOU WON.
2:19:40PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
2:20:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ALL ARE DONE.
2:20:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER COUNCIL THAT THERE IS AN
2:20:14PM APPEAL PERIOD WITH THIS.
2:20:16PM WITH REGARD TO TALKING WITH THE PUBLIC OR TALKING ABOUT IT,
2:20:19PM JUST PLEASE BE REMINDED THAT THE DECISION IS SUBJECT TO
2:20:22PM APPEAL.
2:20:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE GOING TO GET A BRIEF UPDATE ON VILA
2:20:26PM BROTHERS PARK.
2:20:28PM I'M READY.
2:20:34PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL, SHERISHA HILLS,
2:20:36PM DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC.
2:20:38PM ABLE TO SEE THAT?
2:20:43PM JUST HERE TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON VILA BROTHERS PARK AND
2:20:50PM WHERE WE'RE AT.
2:20:51PM I THINK EVERYONE RECEIVED AN E-MAIL REGARDING IT, SO I JUST
2:20:54PM WANTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH IT.
2:20:59PM I'LL GIVE YOU WHERE WE ARE ON TRACK WITH.
2:21:02PM WE'RE STILL ON TRACK HAVING MAY 2023 RIBBON CUTTING.
2:21:06PM SOME OF THE AREAS THERE THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, PICKLEBALL
2:21:10PM COURTS, INSTALLATION OF FITNESS EQUIPMENT, SURFACING,
2:21:13PM INSTALLATION OF PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
2:21:15PM SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD, BUT STILL KEEPING US WHERE
2:21:19PM WE ARE FOR MAY.
2:21:21PM YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, INITIALLY, OUR ORIGINAL
2:21:24PM CONTRACTOR HAD DEFAULTED, SO WE HAD TO HIRE A NEW CONTRACTOR
2:21:28PM WITH THAT.
2:21:30PM WE HAD SOME SUPPLY CHAIN CONSTRAINTS, BUT THEN YOU CAN SEE
2:21:33PM THE OTHER CHALLENGES, PICNIC SHELTERS THAT WERE ORDERED LAST
2:21:36PM YEAR, BUT HAD STILL NOT BEEN DELIVERED.
2:21:39PM AND JUST SOME OF THOSE ORDERS BEING DELAYED THERE.
2:21:42PM NOW, WHERE WE ARE AT, TO BE COMPLETED, SITE GRADING AFTER
2:21:48PM THE PICNIC SHELTERS.
2:21:49PM ADA INSTALLATIONS, IRRIGATION, DRAINAGE, LIGHTS, TURF, AND
2:21:53PM SIGNAGE.
2:21:54PM WITH ALL OF THAT STILL ON TRACK, WE HAVE A DETAILED SCHEDULE
2:21:57PM FROM THE CONTRACTOR WEEK BY WEEK WHAT IS GOING ON OUT THERE.
2:22:00PM EVEN OUR PROJECT MANAGER SPENDS PROBABLY EVERY DAY OUT THERE
2:22:04PM GOING THROUGH, BUT WITH THAT, WE'RE STILL ON TRACK FOR MAY
2:22:09PM RIBBON CUTTING.
2:22:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. HILL?
2:22:12PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:22:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE.
2:22:17PM OF COURSE, VILA BROTHERS AND I'M IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH
2:22:21PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:22:22PM MY QUESTION IS ON THE PICNIC SHELTERS THAT WERE ORDERED,
2:22:25PM TABLES, BENCHES, TRASH CANS THAT WERE NOT DELIVERED, HAVE WE
2:22:29PM PAID FOR THOSE OR DO WE PAY FOR THOSE UPON DELIVERY?
2:22:34PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: DELIVERY.
2:22:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I UNDERSTAND THE SUPPLY CHAIN SITUATION
2:22:40PM THROUGH COVID, THROUGH ALL THE DELAYS WE HAD YEARS AGO, BUT
2:22:44PM I'M ASSUMING THESE ARE ALL MADE IN THE UNITED STATES.
2:22:46PM I'M NOT BLAMING YOU.
2:22:48PM I'M SAYING, WHAT IS THE HOLDUP FOR A VERY SIMPLE THING LIKE
2:22:52PM A TRASH CAN OR PICNIC TABLE?
2:22:54PM EASY TO ASSEMBLE.
2:22:56PM I KNOW THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DELAYED AND YOU'VE EXPLAINED
2:22:59PM IT, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WAITING FOR THIS.
2:23:02PM AGAIN, I SPEAK WITH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD MULTIPLE TIMES A WEEK,
2:23:06PM AND THEY ARE WAITING PATIENTLY.
2:23:09PM THANK YOU FOR BEING ON TOP OF THIS.
2:23:11PM I'LL CONTINUE TO BE ON TOP OF THIS AND I'LL RELAY THE
2:23:14PM INFORMATION BACK TO THE FOLKS.
2:23:15PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: I WILL MAKE A STATEMENT THAT THE PARK,
2:23:18PM WE'VE TRIED TO KEEP IT OPEN AS LONG AS WE CAN.
2:23:20PM WE PUT TEMPORARY FENCING UP THAT HAS BEEN RIPPED DOWN.
2:23:23PM THERE IS A POINT WHERE IT IS COMING NEXT WEEK WHERE A
2:23:26PM PORTION OF THE PARK WILL BE CLOSED SO WE CAN SAFELY COMPLETE
2:23:29PM THE PROJECT.
2:23:30PM PORTION OF THE PARK WILL CONTINUE TO BE OPEN, PICKLEBALL
2:23:33PM COURTS AND RESTROOMS, BUT THERE IS A PORTION THAT NEEDS TO
2:23:35PM BE CLOSED IN ORDER TO SAFELY FINISH.
2:23:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT A FULL PARK CLOSURE.
2:23:39PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: NO, SIR.
2:23:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING WE HAD WHEN
2:23:42PM WE SAW THE NOTICES, FOLKS THOUGHT THAT WE WERE SHUTTING DOWN
2:23:45PM THE PARK.
2:23:46PM SUMMER IS COMING AND THE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE OUT OF SCHOOL
2:23:50PM AND NO PLACE TO GO.
2:23:52PM WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE AND WE DON'T WANT KIDS GOING
2:23:55PM INTO ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION ZONES, SO I GET IT.
2:23:57PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:23:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
2:23:59PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:24:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I THINK -- I KNOW YOU'RE COMING BACK
2:24:04PM WITH A MASTER PLAN IN MAY, BUT I THINK SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO
2:24:10PM MAKE SURE WE GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE
2:24:13PM CHANGES AND PRIORITIES THAT ARE GOING ON IN PARKS.
2:24:17PM LIKE THE COMMUNITY, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID THE COMMUNITY
2:24:21PM HAS BEEN WAITING ON THIS.
2:24:22PM THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN WAITING, I THINK THE RIBBON CUTTING
2:24:25PM ON THIS WAS LIKE SIX OR EIGHT YEARS AGO, PRECEDED YOUR
2:24:29PM DIRECTORSHIP.
2:24:29PM IT WAS UNDER THE LAST MAYOR HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE TO SAY
2:24:33PM THAT THEY WERE STARTING ON THIS.
2:24:35PM SO THE COMMUNITY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE DONE BACK THEN WITHIN A
2:24:37PM YEAR OR SO AND NOW WE'RE LIKE SIX, EIGHT YEARS LATER, SO
2:24:41PM THEY ARE WAITING.
2:24:42PM BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID IS, IN THE MEMO TO US WAS
2:24:46PM THAT SUDDENLY PICKLEBALL COURTS POPPED UP AND NONE OF THE
2:24:53PM THINGS THAT THEY HAD REQUESTED ARE BEING FAST TRACKED BUT
2:24:56PM SOMEHOW PICKLEBALL COURTS WERE.
2:24:58PM I DON'T KNOW WHO FAST TRACKED PICKLEBALL COURTS.
2:25:02PM MAYBE WE GOT A GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR
2:25:04PM SOMETHING, BUT IF THERE IS LIMITED MONEY, I THINK WE OUGHT
2:25:06PM TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT THEIR PARK BEFORE WE
2:25:11PM PRIORITIZE SOMETHING BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THEY
2:25:14PM WOULD HAVE RATHER HAD BEFORE PICKLEBALL, EVEN THOUGH THAT
2:25:18PM MIGHT BE A CITYWIDE THING.
2:25:19PM FEW YEARS AGO, POKEMON WAS A POPULAR THING AND GO FORWARD
2:25:24PM AND PUT POKEMON STUFF IN EVERY PARK.
2:25:27PM IF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE BENCHES AND SHADE, THEN THEY WOULD
2:25:30PM RATHER HAVE THAT OR BATHROOM FIRST.
2:25:32PM IN HYDE PARK, THERE IS A PARK THAT THE COMMUNITY IS VERY
2:25:35PM INTERESTED.
2:25:35PM I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT OFF-LINE, BUT I'M CONCERNED
2:25:38PM BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY IS VERY INVOLVED
2:25:41PM IN THE PRIORITY SETTING.
2:25:42PM HOPEFULLY SOME OF THE PRIORITY SETTING WILL BE IN YOUR PLAN,
2:25:45PM BUT IF SOMETHING IS IN A PLAN AND THE COMMUNITY HAS AGREED
2:25:48PM TO A PLAN, IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT SOMEBODY COULD COME IN AND
2:25:52PM CHANGE THAT AND SAY, OKAY SPEND HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR
2:25:56PM WHATEVER ON PICKLEBALL AND NOT DOING THE THINGS THE
2:25:59PM COMMUNITY -- DO THE THINGS THE COMMUNITY WANTED FIRST.
2:26:01PM IT IS A REQUEST.
2:26:03PM COULD YOU PLEASE HELP US STAY IN TOUCH WITH THE
2:26:05PM NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THESE PARKS IF SOMETHING CHANGES FROM
2:26:08PM THE BUDGET AND PLAN.
2:26:09PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: YES, SIR.
2:26:10PM TWOFOLD ON THAT ONE, YEAH, WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION
2:26:13PM BECAUSE I REMEMBER BEING IN BARKSDALE TO TALK ABOUT THE
2:26:16PM CONVERSION OF TWO BASKETBALL COURTS BUT CHANGING ONE OF THE
2:26:19PM BASKETBALL COURTS TO PICKLEBALL.
2:26:21PM WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT IN PARTICULAR AT VILA
2:26:24PM BROTHERS.
2:26:24PM AS FAR AS THE MASTER PLAN, THE PLAN WHEN IT DOES COME OUT
2:26:27PM BASICALLY TELLS YOU THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU NEED, INVEST AT
2:26:30PM THAT PARK.
2:26:30PM EVERY SINGLE TIME WE DO ANY SORT OF PARK IMPROVEMENT, THERE
2:26:33PM WILL BE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
2:26:35PM IT DOESN'T GET DOWN TO THE DETAILS OF, HEY, YOU NEED A TRASH
2:26:38PM CAN AT THIS CORNER OR PICNIC TABLE HERE.
2:26:40PM WE'LL GET COMMUNITY INPUT EVERY TIME WE DO COMPLETE PROJECTS
2:26:44PM BASED ON THE MASTER PLAN LIKE ANYTHING.
2:26:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: ON THE CHOICE OF GETTING RID OF TWO
2:26:48PM BASKETBALL COURTS TO PUT PICKLEBALL IN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE
2:26:52PM HAVE ADVISORY PANELS FOR EVERY PARK, BUT WHO DID YOU ALL
2:26:56PM MEET WITH THEN TO GET CONSENSUS ON THAT?
2:26:59PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: WE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY.
2:27:01PM SHE'S NOT HERE, CARLA PRICE, WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THE
2:27:05PM PROJECT.
2:27:05PM I CAN GET THE FEEDBACK FROM THAT.
2:27:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE ARE NATURAL LEADERS ON EVERY ONE OF
2:27:11PM THESE, THIS ONE, IF SANDY SANCHEZ AND MARTHA VILA SAY THIS
2:27:15PM IS WHAT WE WANT, THERE ARE STILL OTHER CONSTITUENTS AROUND
2:27:17PM THAT WE NEED TO CONSULTANT, JUST LIKE ON SOME OF THESE OTHER
2:27:20PM PARKS, BUT NO ONE CONSTITUENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO COME AND
2:27:24PM JUST CHANGE SOMETHING, LIKE IN THE HYDE PARK, ONE OF THE
2:27:26PM NEIGHBORING CONSTITUENTS WANTS TO SUDDENLY CHANGE SOMETHING
2:27:29PM THAT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT.
2:27:30PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE BUILD CONSENSUS SOMEHOW.
2:27:34PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT PROCESS THAT IS, BUT I WISH THERE WAS SOME
2:27:37PM AT LEAST AD HOC PROCESS WHERE WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT THE
2:27:40PM NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS AT THE VERY LEAST AND OTHERS ARE
2:27:42PM INVITED TO HEAR ABOUT THE CHANGES AND ADAPTATIONS OF WHAT'S
2:27:47PM HAPPENING IN THOSE PARKS.
2:27:48PM AS YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF COVID, PARKS ARE MORE
2:27:51PM IMPORTANT THAN EVER TO PEOPLE.
2:27:53PM YOU HAVE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT JOBS OF THE CITY NOW.
2:27:56PM THANK YOU.
2:27:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. HILLS, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUICK
2:28:00PM QUESTIONS.
2:28:00PM ON YOUR PRIORITY LIST IN DIFFERENT PARKS, MUCH LIKE IN
2:28:03PM MOBILITY, DO YOU HAVE QUICK BUILD PROJECTS?
2:28:05PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: YEAH, THEY PRIORITIZE THEM, BUT YOU HAVE
2:28:07PM TO DO SOME THAT ARE QUICKER BUILDING DEPENDING ON WHAT THE
2:28:11PM DESIGN AND IMPROVEMENTS ARE.
2:28:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF THERE IS A QUICK BUILD PROJECT NOT VERY
2:28:15PM HIGH UP ON THE PRIORITY LIST IT COULD BE ACCOMPLISHED
2:28:17PM BEFORE, SAY, A BRICK AND MORTAR BUILDING.
2:28:19PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: COULD BE, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS.
2:28:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ESPECIALLY WITH THE LIMITED FUNDING WE HAVE.
2:28:23PM IF WE GET MORE PEOPLE TO THE PARK, QUICK BUILDS WILL ATTRACT
2:28:26PM MORE PEOPLE TO THE PARK.
2:28:27PM THE COMPANY THAT DEFAULTED, DO YOU KNOW -- I DON'T NEED
2:28:32PM NAMES -- HAVE THEY BEEN WORKING WITH TAMPA, THE CITY OF
2:28:35PM TAMPA FOR A WHILE OR WAS THIS A ONE-TIME PROJECT FOR THEM?
2:28:38PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: NOT SURE.
2:28:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN YOU GET US INFORMATION ON THAT?
2:28:43PM AND CAN YOU ALSO GET US THE SPECIAL REASON WHY THEY WERE
2:28:47PM HIRED TO DO THIS?
2:28:48PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: GOTCHA.
2:28:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF THIS WAS A ONE AND DONE, AND THEY
2:28:51PM DEFAULTED ON US, MAYBE IT WOULD BE MORE ADVISABLE FOR THE
2:28:55PM CITY TO STICK WITH COMPANIES THAT ARE RELIABLE INSTEAD OF A
2:28:59PM SPECIAL REASON WHY WE HIRED.
2:29:02PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: OKAY.
2:29:03PM I CAN FIND OUT.
2:29:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. HILLS.
2:29:05PM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:29:10PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
2:29:14PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: THIS ONE SLIDE?
2:29:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
2:29:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M GOOD.
2:29:25PM EVERYBODY ELSE GOOD?
2:29:25PM THANK YOU.
2:29:27PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: ABSOLUTELY.
2:29:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHERE ARE WE GOING TO NOW?
2:29:36PM I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE ADDED.
2:29:40PM LET'S GO TO 90.
2:29:43PM WE'LL START BACK LINEAR NOW.
2:29:46PM 90, CM 22-73043.
2:29:50PM >>OCEA WYNN: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
2:29:53PM OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
2:29:56PM AFFAIRS.
2:29:57PM ITEM NUMBER 90 ASKS FOR AN UPDATE ON THE AD HOC COMMITTEE OF
2:30:02PM WORLD WAR II VETERANS.
2:30:04PM I JUST WANT TO BRING TO YOUR REMEMBRANCE OF HOW WE GOT HERE.
2:30:09PM SEVERAL YEARS BACK, COUNCILMAN VIERA ASKED FOR A VETERANS
2:30:13PM ADVISORY COUNCIL.
2:30:16PM SINCE THEN, OR AFTER THAT POINT IN TIME, COUNCILMAN CARLSON
2:30:20PM ASKED FOR A VETERANS AD HOC COMMITTEE THAT CAN REALLY
2:30:26PM ENTERTAIN THE INTERESTS OF THE TAMPA UNION STATION WITH THE
2:30:31PM SOLDIERS AND WORLD WAR II COMING IN, CAPTURING STORIES,
2:30:35PM PUTTING UP A MONUMENT OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT.
2:30:38PM SINCE WE HAD TWO VETERAN RELATED TYPE AGENDA ITEMS, I ASKED
2:30:44PM COUNCIL IF IT WAS OKAY TO COMBINE THE TWO.
2:30:47PM WHEN I CAME BACK BEFORE YOU, I ASKED FOR MEMBERS WHO YOU
2:30:53PM WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND ON THE ADVISORY COUNCIL.
2:30:57PM THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO PROVIDED NAMES, BUT WE'RE TO THE
2:31:01PM POINT NOW OF MOVING FORWARD FOR THE NAMES THAT WE HAVE -- WE
2:31:04PM HAVE NOT GOTTEN ADDITIONAL NAMES.
2:31:07PM IT'S NOT TOO LATE.
2:31:08PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE AN INCLUSIVE PROCESS FROM ALL
2:31:11PM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
2:31:12PM SO THAT DETAILED THE MEMO.
2:31:15PM I WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU HAD ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE
2:31:18PM WE MOVE FORWARD.
2:31:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:31:22PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THIS WAS YOURS.
2:31:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU ALL AND THANK YOU FOR STAYING TO
2:31:26PM TALK ABOUT THIS.
2:31:27PM COULD YOU TELL ME WHEN A GOOD TIME MIGHT BE TO HAVE YOU ALL
2:31:32PM COME BACK AND DO AN UPDATE?
2:31:33PM IS OCTOBER FAR ENOUGH OUT?
2:31:35PM >>OCEA WYNN: OCTOBER WOULD BE A PERFECT TIME TO COME --
2:31:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD MOVE TO HAVE THIS ITEM COME BACK ON
2:31:44PM OCTOBER 19 FOR A STAFF UPDATE.
2:31:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
2:31:51PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:31:52PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:31:55PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:31:56PM MOTION CARRIES.
2:31:58PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:32:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:32:02PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
2:32:03PM I KNOW WE SPOKE ON THIS, I GUESS IT WAS YESTERDAY.
2:32:06PM WITH REGARDS TO THE LARGER COMMITTEE, IS THAT BEING WORKED
2:32:11PM ON?
2:32:12PM THIS IS THE SUBSECTION OR WHATEVER?
2:32:15PM >>OCEA WYNN: WELL -- WE CANNOT HAVE THE SUBSECTION WITHOUT
2:32:21PM HAVING THE LARGER ONE.
2:32:24PM YES.
2:32:24PM WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON WITH THE LARGER AND THEN AS A PEEL
2:32:29PM OFF FROM THAT OR SUBCOMMITTEE FROM THAT WILL BE MOVING --
2:32:32PM THAT WILL BE PART OF IT.
2:32:34PM BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, YES, IT IS, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.
2:32:40PM WE'RE GOING A LIT MORE LIGHTNING SPEED.
2:32:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
2:32:45PM I APPRECIATE YOU.
2:32:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:32:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT
2:32:51PM WORLD WAR II, BUT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE A LOT OF
2:32:57PM WORLD WAR II REPRESENTATIVES STILL ALIVE HERE.
2:33:02PM MAY BE A FEW.
2:33:03PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T LOSE FOCUS, THAT WE LOOK
2:33:04PM AT ALL THE VETERANS, BECAUSE WE HAVE KOREAN VETERANS.
2:33:06PM YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF VETERANS HERE STILL ALIVE.
2:33:09PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S INCLUSIVE OF EVERYBODY.
2:33:12PM I CAN TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENS, ONE GOES, I SERVED, I SERVED.
2:33:17PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS RECOGNIZED WHO SERVED IN THE
2:33:22PM MILITARY.
2:33:22PM IT'S NOT JUST WORLD WAR II.
2:33:24PM >>OCEA WYNN: NO, IT WILL NOT BE.
2:33:27PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, IF I MAY, THE WORLD WAR II FOCUS WAS ONLY
2:33:30PM BECAUSE COUNCILMAN CARLSON WANTED TO GET DETAIL OF THOSE
2:33:34PM VETERANS WHO CAME THROUGH TAMPA UNION STATION.
2:33:37PM THE VETERANS COMMITTEE WILL BE MADE UP -- WILL BE INCLUSIVE
2:33:42PM OF ALL VETERANS.
2:33:44PM THAT CARVE-OUT WAS ONLY SPECIFICALLY FOR THE REQUEST HE
2:33:48PM MADE.
2:33:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:33:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, GARY MORMINO IS THE EXPERT ON THIS.
2:34:05PM WHEN YOU SEE A BUILDING, YOU SEE A NICE BUILDING AND MIGHT
2:34:08PM LIKE THE BUILDING.
2:34:09PM IF YOU KNOW THE STORIES BEHIND IT, IT IS MORE MEANINGFUL.
2:34:12PM THE IDEA HERE IS BEFORE WE HAD AN AIRPORT, THE WORLD WAR II
2:34:17PM SOLDIERS HAD TO LEAVE AND COME BACK THROUGH TAMPA UNION
2:34:20PM STATION.
2:34:21PM SO THERE ARE A LOT OF MEMORIES AROUND THAT.
2:34:24PM AND THAT'S SEPARATE FROM THE VETERANS COMMITTEE WHICH WILL
2:34:27PM HAVE EVERYBODY.
2:34:28PM THIS IS JUST ABOUT TELLING THE STORY ABOUT THE WORLD WAR II
2:34:35PM VETERANS THAT CAME AND WENT AND SOME DIDN'T COME BACK.
2:34:38PM SO WE WANT TO GET SPECIFIC ADVICE AROUND THE EXPERIENCE OF
2:34:42PM WORLD WAR II.
2:34:43PM IT MIGHT BE FROM THE KIDS OR GRANDKIDS.
2:34:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH
2:34:53PM THIS REPORT?
2:34:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:34:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 91, MS. WYNN, YOU ARE THERE.
2:34:58PM FILE CM 23-80348.
2:35:03PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
2:35:04PM WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE A REPORT ON THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN
2:35:09PM THE MAYOR'S YOUTH COUNCIL AND TEENS LEADING CHANGE.
2:35:13PM WE MET WITH EACH OF YOU.
2:35:15PM WE PROVIDED THAT REPORT, AND WE ARE HERE TO ENTERTAIN ANY
2:35:19PM QUESTIONS, AND I KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES HAD SOME
2:35:22PM ADDITIONAL CONCERNS.
2:35:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:35:27PM CTV, COULD YOU GO TO THE MONITOR?
2:35:29PM FIRST, BY SAYING TO MS. HILLS AND MS. WYNN, THANK YOU FOR
2:35:35PM THE HOUR AND SOMETHING MEETING YESTERDAY.
2:35:37PM I APPRECIATE EVERYONE, AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THE REAL FOCUS IS
2:35:45PM AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE.
2:35:48PM I'M REAL APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU WERE ACCEPTABLE TO WHAT I WAS
2:35:51PM SAYING AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY, THE KIDS AND THE EMPLOYEES
2:35:55PM ARE SAYING.
2:35:56PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
2:35:57PM CTV, I WANT YOU TO PUT UP THE MONITOR.
2:36:02PM OKAY.
2:36:03PM THE WHOLE PREMISE OF THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION IS I KNOW ABOUT
2:36:06PM BOTH PROGRAMS.
2:36:09PM IN 2019 I TALKED ABOUT AND ASKED FINANCIAL OFFICER WHO WAS
2:36:14PM CHIEF OF STAFF AT THAT TIME AND A YOUNG LADIES MS. MOLLY HAD
2:36:18PM A MEETING IN REFERENCE TO THE DIFFERENCES OF THE PROGRAM.
2:36:21PM I THOUGHT WE WOULD GET SOME CHANGE BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
2:36:24PM LATER ON, 2021, ASKED COME FORWARD WITH A PRESENTATION OF
2:36:28PM THE BUILDINGS.
2:36:29PM THOUGHT WE WOULD GET SOME KIND OF TRACTION.
2:36:31PM THAT NEVER HAPPENED.
2:36:33PM RECENTLY, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, I GOT A CALL AND A
2:36:38PM LETTER FROM SOME FOLKS IN REFERENCE TO WHY IS IT THE MAYOR'S
2:36:43PM YOUTH CORPS SEEMS TO BE THE ELITE PROGRAM OF THE CITY AND
2:36:46PM THE TLC PROGRAM SEEMS TO BE THE UNDERLING.
2:36:51PM WHY IS IT THAT THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS HAS FUNDED DOLLARS IN
2:36:56PM THE BUDGET AND THE OTHER KIDS DON'T?
2:36:57PM AGAIN, AS I LOOK AT THE SCREEN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN,
2:37:02PM YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE TELLING ME.
2:37:05PM WE JOT IT DOWN.
2:37:06PM TOLD MS. WYNN YESTERDAY I WOULD HAVE THEM.
2:37:08PM YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY TALK ABOUT THE MYC HAS CONSISTENT
2:37:13PM ACCESS TO THE MAYOR AND ADMINISTRATION.
2:37:15PM TLC REQUESTS ARE USUALLY DENIED.
2:37:17PM THE MAYOR, MYC IS AFFORDED CONSTANT ACCESS TO THE MAYOR AND
2:37:23PM INVITED TO ALL, TO ATTEND MOST ALL OF THE CITY EVENTS.
2:37:27PM CAN WE GET IT ON THE SCREEN, PLEASE?
2:37:29PM WE TALK ABOUT MYC PARTICIPANTS ARE INVITED TO SERVE AS HOSTS
2:37:37PM AT THE CITY OF TAMPA OF EVENTS, CONVENTION CENTERS.
2:37:39PM TLC IS NOT.
2:37:40PM OFFERED INTERGOVERNMENT COURSES.
2:37:44PM MYC IS THE ONLY GROUP THAT CAN REPRESENT THE CITY OF TAMPA
2:37:46PM AT NATIONAL AND FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCES.
2:37:49PM I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT.
2:37:55PM I HEARD MANY TIMES THE KIDS ARE FUND-RAISING.
2:37:59PM CITY PROGRAM, IT SHOULD BE BUDGETED EQUALLY AS THE MAYOR'S
2:38:02PM YOUTH CORPS, MYC IS ALLOWED TO HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA SITES,
2:38:06PM ESPECIALLY FOR THEM.
2:38:08PM TLC CANNOT.
2:38:09PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT EITHER.
2:38:11PM MYC CAN HAVE ITS OWN YouTube CHANNEL, SHARE AND PROMOTE
2:38:17PM THEIR PROGRAM.
2:38:18PM TLC CANNOT.
2:38:20PM MULTIMEDIA EQUIPMENT TO PRODUCE CONTENT, CAMERAS, LAPTOPS,
2:38:25PM DRONES, CAN PURCHASE POLO SHIRTS FOR PARTICIPANTS.
2:38:30PM PAYS FOR ANNUAL RETREAT FOR PARTICIPANTS.
2:38:33PM THEY HAVE A DEDICATED COORDINATOR.
2:38:37PM TLC DOES NOT.
2:38:38PM AGAIN, MY BIGGEST THING, IF WE SAY THIS IS AN ELITIST
2:38:44PM PROGRAM OVER HERE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE EQUITY IS OVER
2:38:47PM HERE FOR THE OTHER PROGRAM, BUT ALSO YOU LOOK AT THE
2:38:50PM CRITERIA -- I'LL SHOW THE CRITERIA IN JUST A SECOND -- WHILE
2:38:54PM I FEEL THAT I ALWAYS HEAR WHERE THEY ARE STRUGGLING GETTING
2:38:58PM KIDS BUT I SEE KIDS COME FROM AFFLUENT SCHOOLS AND I HAVE AN
2:39:05PM ISSUE WHAT I CALL A ROADBLOCK.
2:39:08PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CRITERIA, I SEE ROADBLOCKS.
2:39:11PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TLC CRITERIA IN THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS
2:39:17PM CRITERIA, TALK ABOUT BACKGROUND, I HEAR THE WORD BACKGROUND,
2:39:21PM THAT MEANS A ROADBLOCK FOR SOME KIDS.
2:39:23PM COULD HAVE MADE A CRIMINAL MISTAKE, BUT AGAIN THAT DOESN'T
2:39:29PM PRECLUDE THEM FROM HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET INTO THE
2:39:32PM MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS.
2:39:33PM YOU HAVE EMPLOYEES WHO TELL ME WE HAVE GOOD KIDS AND ASK
2:39:36PM TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WHY CAN'T ONE OF OUR KIDS WHO WE
2:39:39PM SUGGEST MOVE INTO THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS.
2:39:42PM APPARENTLY, THEY HAVE BEEN DENIED THAT.
2:39:44PM MY THING IS TO LOOK AT, WE CAN HAVE EQUALITY.
2:39:50PM WE TALK ABOUT EQUALITY ALL THE TIME.
2:39:52PM BUT THE BASIS IS EQUITY HERE.
2:39:54PM WHAT I SEE HERE WITH THESE TWO PROGRAMS IS A LACK OF EQUITY.
2:39:59PM A PURE LACK OF EQUITY.
2:40:01PM AS WE TALKED YESTERDAY, MS. WYNN AND MS. HILLS, TALK ABOUT
2:40:05PM TLC IS BIG AND GROWN AND KIND OF THE FOCUS OF THE PROGRAM
2:40:08PM HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
2:40:09PM MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR US TO MAKE THE CHANGE.
2:40:12PM I HOPE NOW THAT WE WILL.
2:40:14PM NOT DOWNING THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS.
2:40:17PM I THINK IT IS A VALUABLE PROGRAM.
2:40:18PM WHEN PAM IORIO GOT IT AND IT WAS MOVING, IT HAD FOCUS,
2:40:22PM THROUGH DIFFERENT MAYORS IT HAS CHANGED A LITTLE BIT.
2:40:25PM SOME PEOPLE'S EYES AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT PEOPLE BELIEVE
2:40:28PM IT IS AN ELITIST PROGRAM FOR CERTAIN KIDS, FOR CERTAIN
2:40:31PM COMMUNITIES.
2:40:32PM WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU HEARD SOME PARENTS CALL THEIR KIDS WHO
2:40:34PM HAVE BEEN IN THE PROGRAM, BUT I'VE SEEN SOME KIDS DON'T HAVE
2:40:37PM AUTOMOBILES TO BE IN THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS.
2:40:40PM THEY CAN GET TO THEIR MEETINGS AT 3:00, 4:00.
2:40:43PM THEY DON'T HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION TO DO THAT.
2:40:45PM I'M ASKING THAT YOU TAKE THIS BACK, MS. WYNN, BECAUSE I KNOW
2:40:51PM YOU ALWAYS KEPT YOUR WORD WITH ME, AND MS. HILLS THAT YOU
2:40:56PM LOOK BACK AND LOOK AT HOW WE CAN STRENGTHEN, ADD AN EQUAL
2:40:59PM BUDGET, LOOK AT SOME OF THE CRITERIA OF THE MAYOR'S YOUTH
2:41:03PM GROUP AND TLC.
2:41:05PM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO ALWAYS BE TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE
2:41:08PM PERFECT TO WHERE EACH PROGRAM -- BECAUSE TLC DOES HAVE A
2:41:12PM NICHE FOR CERTAIN THINGS.
2:41:14PM WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
2:41:16PM SO DOES THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS.
2:41:20PM SOME OF THE THINGS CAN BE EQUAL AND EQUITABLE.
2:41:24PM A LOT OF THINGS I SEE CAN BE EQUAL AND EQUITABLE.
2:41:26PM IF THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS ONLY TAKES 12, 13 KIDS, MAYBE 6
2:41:31PM NEEDS TO GO FROM THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS AND 6 TO THE TLC
2:41:36PM GROUP AND GO TO WASHINGTON, D.C., TO THE NATIONAL LEGAL OF
2:41:39PM CITIES OR THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES OR TALLAHASSEE WHERE
2:41:42PM THE OTHER GROUP WENT TO TALLAHASSEE.
2:41:44PM THEY HAD A SPONSOR TO HELP THEM GET THERE, PRAISE GOD, BUT I
2:41:48PM THINK THAT THEY DESERVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT
2:41:51PM A LITTLE CITY GOVERNMENT, TOO, NOT JUST KICKBALL AND
2:41:54PM BASEBALL AND SOME OF THE THINGS THEY DO.
2:41:55PM I KNOW THEY HAVE OTHER PROGRAMS WITHIN TLC, BUT I THINK SOME
2:41:58PM OF THOSE KIDS EVENTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO BE POSSIBLE CITY
2:42:02PM EMPLOYEES OR GO INTO CITY GOVERNMENT AS WELL.
2:42:04PM WE CAN'T EXCLUDE THEM FROM UNDERSTANDING HOW IT OPERATES.
2:42:06PM THE MAIN THING THAT HURTS ME, WHEN I HAVE THE ACTUAL
2:42:10PM EMPLOYEES THAT TELL ME THEY FEEL THAT THE PROGRAM IS
2:42:13PM UNBALANCED, IT'S UNEQUAL, THAT IS A CONCERN, BUT WHEN KIDS,
2:42:18PM KIND OF LIKE IF I GOT TWO DAUGHTERS AND ONE DAUGHTER TELLS
2:42:21PM THEIR FRIEND, WELL, DADDY TREATS ME DIFFERENTLY THAN HE
2:42:25PM TREATS YOU.
2:42:26PM THAT'S WHAT I FEEL LIKE THIS IS HERE RIGHT NOW, ONE PROGRAM
2:42:29PM IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHERS.
2:42:31PM AND THAT IS THE PERCEPTION.
2:42:34PM MIGHT NOT THINK THAT BUT THE PERCEPTION, PERCEIVED RIGHT
2:42:37PM NOW, IT IS.
2:42:38PM FROM WHAT I SEE WHEN I LOOK AT THE SCHOOLS THAT THE KIDS ARE
2:42:41PM COMING FROM, TO ME THAT IS MY PERCEPTION.
2:42:43PM THAT'S MY REALITY.
2:42:44PM THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN PREACHING THIS SINCE DAY ONE.
2:42:47PM I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, MS. WYNN.
2:42:52PM AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT IT YESTERDAY FOR A WHILE.
2:42:54PM I THINK YOU AND MS. HILLS SEE MY EYES WHAT WE'RE TALKING
2:42:58PM ABOUT.
2:42:58PM YOU HEARD SOME OF THE PARENTS.
2:43:00PM YOU HAVE A MAYOR'S UNIVERSITY BUT NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THE TLC
2:43:03PM KIDS.
2:43:04PM THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME.
2:43:06PM THAT'S A PROBLEM.
2:43:09PM LIKE YOU SAID, EYES ARE OPENED.
2:43:11PM I THINK YOU GUYS' EYES HAVE NOW BEEN OPENED BECAUSE YOU'VE
2:43:16PM BEEN HEARING IT.
2:43:17PM I THINK NOW WE CAN SOUND THE ALARM THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT
2:43:19PM BOTH PROGRAMS.
2:43:20PM AGAIN, BOTH PROGRAMS MAY BE DIFFERENT.
2:43:25PM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
2:43:26PM BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN SOME OF THE LITTLE TRINKETS ARE
2:43:29PM GIVEN OVER HERE AND THE OTHER KIDS DON'T GET THE TRINKETS AS
2:43:33PM WELL.
2:43:33PM I'M HOOKING AT THE TRINKETS.
2:43:35PM CURRICULUM CAN BE STRUCTURED DIFFERENTLY, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT
2:43:38PM THE TRINKETS, THAT'S THE EQUITY THAT I BELIEVE IS MISSING.
2:43:42PM BEFORE WE FINISH, I'LL MAKE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS,
2:43:49PM RECOMMENDATION THAT BOTH PROGRAMS EVALUATED, ALSO A BUDGET
2:43:56PM BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET SO BOTH PROGRAMS CAN
2:43:59PM SURVIVE AND BE ABLE TO PARTAKE IN GOING TO PLACES AND DOING
2:44:03PM OTHER THINGS EQUALLY AND EQUITABLY.
2:44:06PM I'LL BE MAKING THAT MOTION AT THE END.
2:44:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:44:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES, FOR
2:44:13PM BRINGING THIS UP.
2:44:14PM EVERY YEAR I GET INVITED TO SPEAK TO THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS
2:44:17PM AND THEY ARE ALWAYS, ALWAYS AN AMAZING GROUP OF STUDENTS
2:44:21PM FROM ALL DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE.
2:44:23PM HOWEVER, COUNCILMAN GUDES BRINGS UP A LOT OF GOOD POINTS.
2:44:27PM WHAT I SEE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF TLC ALSO HAS THIS, BUT WITH
2:44:30PM THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS, THEY ALWAYS HAVE SPONSORS.
2:44:33PM IT'S ALWAYS A BIG BANK OR A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION.
2:44:36PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS BANK OF AMERICA OR CHASE.
2:44:39PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
2:44:40PM THEY ALWAYS GET RECOGNITION.
2:44:43PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY GIVE.
2:44:44PM I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT AMOUNT.
2:44:46PM IF THEY DON'T HAVE SPONSORS SIMILAR TO WHAT OR LIKE THE
2:44:50PM MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS, PERHAPS WE NEED TO SEEK OUT SPONSORS
2:44:53PM FOR TLC TO HELP BUILD UP THE ORGANIZATION.
2:44:57PM I SEE THE CRITERIA IS DIFFERENT.
2:44:59PM YOU HAVE TEENS 13 THROUGH 17 WITH THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS
2:45:03PM IT'S DIFFERENT.
2:45:04PM GRADES 9, 10, 11, FROM A LIMITED AMOUNT OF SCHOOLS
2:45:08PM THROUGHOUT TAMPA.
2:45:10PM TLC YOU NEED A CURRENT REC CARD.
2:45:12PM NOT EVERYBODY CAN GET THAT REC CARD.
2:45:14PM BUT COUNCILMAN GUDES IS RIGHT.
2:45:17PM WE WANT TO LIFT UP OUR YOUTH.
2:45:19PM WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE IT AND INSPIRE YOUTH.
2:45:22PM THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS IS AN AMAZING PROGRAM BECAUSE IT
2:45:24PM TAKES KIDS FROM HERE TO WASHINGTON TO ALL OVER.
2:45:27PM THEY SEE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS OF THE CITY.
2:45:29PM THEY MEET WITH THE MAYOR ALL THE TIME.
2:45:31PM THEY ARE VERY ACTIVE.
2:45:32PM I SEE THEM AT THE T-MALL ACROSS THE STREET.
2:45:36PM IF WE NEED TO BUDGET MORE FOR TLC OR NEED TO SEEK OUT
2:45:40PM SPONSORS SO WE CAN MAKE IT MORE EQUITABLE, IT'S ONLY
2:45:43PM BENEFICIAL.
2:45:44PM THERE'S NO DOWN SIDE TO IT.
2:45:45PM AND WE CAN REALLY HELP A BROADER BASE OF THE COMMUNITY THAT
2:45:50PM IS NOT AS RESTRICTIVE IN THE CRITERIA FOR SELECTION, AND WE
2:45:55PM CAN JUST DIVERSIFY AND BUILD THAT EQUITY.
2:45:58PM THANKS FOR BRINGING IT UP.
2:46:00PM AGAIN, I'VE SEEN THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS FIRSTHAND FOR MANY
2:46:04PM YEARS.
2:46:04PM IT'S GREAT, BUT WE CAN SPREAD THE LOVE TO THIS OTHER GROUP
2:46:08PM SO WE CAN REACH OUT TO MORE YOUNG PEOPLE.
2:46:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. WYNN.
2:46:13PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THE TEENS
2:46:17PM LEADING CHANGE DOES HAVE A SMALL SPONSORSHIP, BUT WE WILL
2:46:20PM LOOK AT INCREASING THAT, AND WE HAVE PUT IN A BUDGET REQUEST
2:46:24PM JUST FOR TEENS LEADING CHANGE AS WELL.
2:46:26PM I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT.
2:46:29PM IN TERMS OF THE REC CARDS, IF THERE ARE ANY KIDS OR
2:46:32PM STUDENTS, YOUNG ADULTS WHO CANNOT AFFORD THE REC CARD, WE'LL
2:46:36PM GIVE IT TO THEM FOR FREE.
2:46:39PM WE DO PROVIDE THAT.
2:46:40PM WE DO NOT WANT THE FACT THAT YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO GET A REC
2:46:45PM CARD A HINDRANCE FOR YOU TO PARTICIPATE, NOT ONLY IN TEENS
2:46:49PM LEADING CHANGE BUT IN ANY REC PROGRAM.
2:46:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:46:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL BE HONEST, THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST
2:47:00PM TIMES I'VE HEARD OF TEENS LEADING CHANGE.
2:47:02PM I'M STILL NOT CLEAR, THESE MISSION STATEMENTS DON'T REALLY
2:47:07PM SHOW THE DIFFERENCE.
2:47:10PM SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE TWO PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF ONE OR
2:47:15PM IF WE HAVE THE SECOND PROGRAM, HOW IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE
2:47:20PM MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS.
2:47:23PM SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD, WHEN COMING BACK,
2:47:26PM JUST REALLY CLARIFY REALLY WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE.
2:47:30PM IF WE'RE FOCUSING ON ONE, I SEE SPORTS AND EDUCATIONAL
2:47:34PM ENDEAVORS AND SPECIAL PROJECTS, SO IS THAT MORE SPECIFIC TO
2:47:40PM -- I MEAN, HOWEVER WE'RE DIFFERENTIATING THEM, IF ONE IS
2:47:44PM FOCUSED ON GOVERNMENT BUT ONE IS FOCUSED ON -- WHATEVER IT'S
2:47:48PM FOCUSED ON, IF WE COULD JUST GET SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE
2:47:51PM CLARITY WITH THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THEN WE CAN ATTRACT
2:47:57PM STUDENTS TO BOTH PROGRAMS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THAT
2:48:01PM PARTICULAR ASPECT, IF THEY REALLY ARE THAT DIFFERENT.
2:48:04PM RIGHT NOW, I DON'T SEE THE WILD DIFFERENCE, BUT I ALSO DO
2:48:09PM AGREE OVERALL THAT, YES, MORE FUNDING FOR BOTH.
2:48:12PM WE SHOULD REALLY ABSOLUTELY REACH OUT AND REALLY TRY TO, I
2:48:18PM AGREE ON EXPANDING THE OPPORTUNITIES AND ENCOURAGE OTHER
2:48:23PM SCHOOLS AND OTHER STUDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN MAYOR'S YOUTH
2:48:26PM CORPS THAN WHAT ARE TRADITIONALLY DONE.
2:48:30PM BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A CLEAR DELINEATION BECAUSE RIGHT
2:48:35PM NOW I'M FINDING IT CONFUSING, SO I THINK THE PUBLIC MIGHT AS
2:48:38PM WELL.
2:48:38PM THANK YOU.
2:48:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:48:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THESE
2:48:45PM PROGRAMS OTHER THAN WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC AND I'VE
2:48:48PM HEARD TODAY.
2:48:49PM I DON'T THINK I'VE BEEN INVITED TO GO TO ANY OF THESE
2:48:52PM THINGS.
2:48:53PM SEVERAL PIECES OF FEEDBACK.
2:48:56PM I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT MAKING EQUITABLE AND
2:49:00PM EVERYTHING.
2:49:02PM I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THIS CITY, YOUR DEPARTMENT STEP BACK
2:49:08PM AND LOOK AT HOW CAN WE ENGAGE THIS AUDIENCE, WHATEVER THE
2:49:12PM AUDIENCE IS, TEENAGERS, AND FIGURE OUT HOW CAN WE DO
2:49:15PM SOMETHING THAT IS BENEFICIAL TO THEM?
2:49:18PM PRESUMABLY SOMETHING THEY CAN PUT ON THEIR RESUMÉ, GIVES
2:49:21PM THEM SOME KIND OF EXPERIENCE, HOPEFULLY SOME KIND OF
2:49:24PM TRAINING SKILLS, BUT BACK UP AND SAY, WHAT IS THE BEST WAY
2:49:26PM THAT THE CITY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THIS AND BUILD A FOUNDATION
2:49:33PM FOR TOMORROW'S LEADERS.
2:49:35PM WE PROBABLY ALL WERE PART OF THE PROGRAMS LIKE THAT WHEN WE
2:49:38PM WERE KIDS, AND IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
2:49:42PM IF YOU ALL NEED FUNDING, WE CAN HELP GO TO THE PRIVATE
2:49:45PM SECTOR OR EACH OF US AND/OR THROUGH CRA OR WHATEVER, LET US
2:49:51PM KNOW BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING.
2:49:53PM I OBJECT TO THINGS THAT ARE CALLED MAYOR'S.
2:49:57PM I UNDERSTAND WHY PREVIOUS MAYORS DID THIS, AND IT IS
2:50:01PM PRESTIGIOUS TO HAVE MAYORS, BUT I WISH THERE WAS SOME OTHER
2:50:05PM WAY TO PROMOTE PRESTIGE OTHER THAN THAT, ESPECIALLY SINCE
2:50:10PM THE PUBLIC IS DEMANDING THAT CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR GET
2:50:12PM ALONG.
2:50:13PM I WISH MORE WAYS THAT IT WAS INCLUSIVE OF CITY COUNCIL.
2:50:16PM MAYBE SOMEBODY FROM CITY COUNCIL IS INVITED EVERY YEAR TO DO
2:50:18PM IT.
2:50:18PM I NEVER REALLY HEARD OF THESE PROGRAMS BEFORE.
2:50:21PM IT WOULD BE GREAT IF IT WAS SOMETHING RELATED TO THE CITY
2:50:26PM AND WE COULD BUILD SOME KIND OF PRESTIGE AROUND IT.
2:50:29PM IF YOU WANT HELP WITH BRANDING, I'M HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH
2:50:32PM YOU.
2:50:33PM TWO QUICK THINGS ABOUT BRANDING, I WOULD GET RID OF TLC.
2:50:36PM TLC HAS OTHER CONNOTATIONS, WHICH ARE FINE.
2:50:41PM MAYBE SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO BE CUTE OR IT WAS AN ACCIDENT,
2:50:45PM IF YOU CALLED IT TEENS LEADERSHIP PROGRAM OR SOMETHING,
2:50:50PM SOMETHING THAT IS PRESTIGIOUS, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TRYING
2:50:53PM TO PUT.
2:50:54PM IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT A KID CAN PUT ON THEIR RESUMÉ TO GET
2:50:57PM INTO COLLEGE OR A BETTER HIGH SCHOOL, SOMETHING THAT GOES
2:51:01PM ALONG WITH THAT.
2:51:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TALKED ABOUT THAT, MR. CARLSON.
2:51:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: TLC HAS OTHER CONNOTATIONS WHICH I WOULDN'T
2:51:08PM USE.
2:51:08PM BRANDING 101, DON'T USE INITIALS.
2:51:11PM YOU SHOULDN'T EVER USE INITIALS.
2:51:13PM IDEALLY, NAMES WOULD BE LESS THAN FIVE SYLLABLES.
2:51:16PM IDEALLY TWO OR THREE SYLLABLES IN A SHORT FORM, BUT IF YOU
2:51:19PM HAVE MYC, IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING ELSE.
2:51:25PM IF IT'S TLC, IT CAN POTENTIALLY MEAN SOMETHING ELSE.
2:51:29PM IT'S BETTER, EVEN IF IT'S MORE THAN FIVE SYLLABLES, BETTER
2:51:32PM TO SPELL OUT THE NAME AND HAVE SOME KIND OF OTHER SYMBOL.
2:51:36PM I'M JUST PUTTING THIS AS A PLACE HOLDER.
2:51:38PM INSTEAD OF TLC, IF YOU HAD -- INSTEAD OF MYC, IF YOU HAD AN
2:51:42PM OFFICIAL LOOKING SEAL, NOT CITY SEAL, OFFICIAL IMPORTANT
2:51:45PM LOOKING SEAL AND SAID TAMPA YOUTH CORPS OR CITY OF TAMPA
2:51:48PM YOUTH CORPS, SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD BE PROUD OF TO HAVE
2:51:52PM THE LOGO, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
2:51:56PM THE ONE ON THE LEFT LOOKS LIKE IT IS A FUN SUMMER CAMP.
2:52:00PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
2:52:01PM MAYBE THAT'S RIGHT.
2:52:02PM BUT JUST SOME FEEDBACK ON BRANDING.
2:52:06PM THE LAST THING IS, I HEARD SOME THINGS THAT CONCERN ME.
2:52:12PM ESSENTIALLY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WHAT PEOPLE FROM THE
2:52:15PM PUBLIC SAID, BLACK KIDS ARE CLEANING UP TRASH AND THE WHITE
2:52:18PM KIDS ARE MEETING WITH THE MAYOR.
2:52:22PM CAN YOU TELL US --
2:52:23PM >>OCEA WYNN: TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, COUNCILMAN.
2:52:26PM WE'RE TALKING -- WE'RE TRYING TO COMBINE -- THAT COMMENT WAS
2:52:30PM MADE, BUT THERE'S A COMBINATION OF TWO PROGRAMS.
2:52:35PM THE CLEANUP TRASH, THAT PROGRAM WAS THE JOBS PROGRAM.
2:52:41PM LEADERSHIP, GETTING KIDS TOGETHER.
2:52:43PM TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS.
2:52:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A REEVALUATION, IF WE'RE ENGAGING KIDS
2:52:48PM IN LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS FOR DIFFERENT REASONS, IT MIGHT BE
2:52:51PM WORTH A STRATEGY SESSION, AND WE COULD GIVE YOU OUR INPUT ON
2:52:55PM IT, TOO, IF YOU WANT.
2:52:57PM BUT JUST INPUT INTO THE BRANDING OF THEM.
2:52:59PM HOW IT SHOULD BE STRUCTURED, AND I WOULD RECOMMEND MAYBE
2:53:03PM FOCUS GROUPS WITH PARENTS AND/OR KIDS TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM
2:53:06PM ON WHAT IS MEANINGFUL.
2:53:08PM IF THE GOAL OF THAT PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE SUMMER JOBS,
2:53:11PM THAT'S GREAT.
2:53:12PM BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T LOOK
2:53:15PM LIKE IT'S DISCRIMINATORY OR DEMEANING.
2:53:20PM AND ON THESE PROGRAMS, IF THE IDEA IS TO HELP THEM PUT
2:53:25PM SOMETHING PRESTIGIOUS ON THEIR RESUMÉ, I THINK WE CAN DO IT
2:53:27PM DIFFERENTLY.
2:53:28PM I'M HAPPY TO HELP.
2:53:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:53:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS THE THING, MR. CARLSON.
2:53:33PM A KID GOES TO THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS ON THEIR RESUMÉ, IT'S
2:53:38PM DIFFERENT THAN TLC.
2:53:39PM I WANT THESE KIDS TO BE ABLE TO NOT PLAY KICKBALL OR
2:53:44PM BASKETBALL, BUT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME OTHER GOVERNMENTAL
2:53:49PM EXPERIENCE, SAY I DID THIS IN THIS PROGRAM, IT IS A CITY OF
2:53:51PM TAMPA PROGRAM, WHAT A MEANINGFUL NAME, LIKE YOU SAID, AND
2:53:55PM PUT THAT ON THE RESUMÉ.
2:53:56PM SOME OF THE KIDS ARE GOING TO COLLEGE.
2:53:58PM THEY ARE NOT JUST GOING TO GO TO A TRADE SCHOOL OR GET A
2:54:03PM JOB.
2:54:04PM IT MAY HELP THOSE GETTING A JOB.
2:54:10PM I THINK THIS PROGRAM HERE COULD BE MORE.
2:54:12PM IT COULD BE MORE.
2:54:14PM IF YOU STILL WANT TO HAVE THIS PRESTIGIOUS --
2:54:19PM [ENCODER DROP]
2:54:20PM -- NEED TO TAKE BACK TO THE ADMINISTRATION THE
2:54:46PM RECOMMENDATIONS I'VE SUBMITTED, RECOMMENDATION OF THIS
2:54:51PM COUNCIL, AND COME BACK WITH SOME UPGRADED CHANGES AS IT
2:54:56PM RELATES TO THE PROGRAMS, BOTH PROGRAMS.
2:55:01PM ALSO, THE BUDGETARY REQUIREMENTS OF ADDING THEM INTO THE
2:55:07PM BUDGET TO EQUAL, I KNOW THE TEENS LEADING CHANGE HAVE LITTLE
2:55:12PM MORE KIDS, THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY.
2:55:15PM THAT'S OKAY.
2:55:16PM BUT MAKING SURE THERE'S MONEY FROM THE CITY BUDGET THAT IS
2:55:18PM HELPING OUR KIDS AND BRING THAT BACK WITH THOSE
2:55:21PM RECOMMENDATIONS, THOSE POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THE MISSION
2:55:25PM STATEMENTS TO BOTH THOSE GROUPS, AND I WOULD SAY NO MORE
2:55:30PM THAN 60, 90 DAYS.
2:55:32PM HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED?
2:55:34PM >>OCEA WYNN: COUNCILMAN GUDES, I THINK 90 DAYS --
2:55:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WON'T BE HERE, BUT I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUE
2:55:40PM HERE, MR. CARLSON, WILL MAKE SURE AND I'LL BE AT THE PODIUM
2:55:43PM WHEN IT COMES BACK TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT DONE BECAUSE IT
2:55:46PM NEEDS TO BE DONE.
2:55:47PM JULY 13th.
2:55:50PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
2:55:51PM THAT WILL WORK.
2:55:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: JULY 13th.
2:55:56PM THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
2:55:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:56:01PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:56:02PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS? COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:56:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I WAS THINKING JULY 13 IS THE FIRST
2:56:07PM TIME BACK I BELIEVE AFTER THE VACATION, ISN'T IT?
2:56:10PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET EQUAL TIME BECAUSE THAT
2:56:14PM WILL BE A BIG AGENDA, I GUESS.
2:56:16PM I'M NOT SURE.
2:56:17PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:56:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU DON'T TAKE VACATIONS I THOUGHT.
2:56:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE CALENDAR SAID THAT, NOT ME.
2:56:30PM DR. DON'T HEAR.
2:56:38PM HE DOESN'T HEAR AT ALL.
2:56:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
2:56:41PM IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN GUDES, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING EQUITY TO
2:56:44PM THESE TWO PROGRAMS.
2:56:45PM I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.
2:56:47PM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM MS. BIEBEL AND WHAT
2:56:52PM SHE HAS DONE WITH THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS.
2:56:54PM I HAVE BEEN WITH HER ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS OVER THE LAST FOUR
2:56:58PM YEARS AT FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, MIAMI, ORLANDO, AND OTHER
2:57:01PM PLACES AROUND AND NATIONAL FLC AND THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS
2:57:06PM HAS REPRESENTED THE CITY OF TAMPA VERY, VERY WELL,
2:57:10PM ESPECIALLY IN DEBATES, DISCUSSIONS, AND THEIR PERFORMANCE.
2:57:13PM CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE?
2:57:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:57:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:57:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:57:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:57:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:57:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:57:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:57:25PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
2:57:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:57:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AGAIN, MS. WYNN AND MS. HILLS, THANK YOU
2:57:30PM FOR THE TIME YOU SPENT AND THE HONEST CONVERSATIONS.
2:57:34PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
2:57:35PM AGAIN, NOTHING TAKEN AWAY FROM MAYOR'S YOUTH CORPS OR
2:57:39PM MS. MOLLY.
2:57:40PM SHE'S DONE A GREAT JOB.
2:57:42PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL EYES BEING OPEN ON BOTH PROGRAMS
2:57:44PM NOW.
2:57:45PM I THINK THE PROGRAMS ARE CHANGING AND GROWING AND NEED TO
2:57:48PM PUT ANOTHER LIGHT ON THEM.
2:57:49PM THANK YOU AGAIN.
2:57:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 2, FILE NUMBER CM23-80619.
2:58:00PM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND
2:58:00PM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
2:58:01PM COUNCIL, YOU ASKED US TO COME AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON EAST
2:58:04PM TAMPA RECREATION PROJECT.
2:58:07PM I WILL HAVE SHERISHA HILLS AS THE OWNER OF THE PROJECT AND
2:58:13PM CHRIS THOMPSON AS THE PROJECT MANAGER TO COME AND PROVIDE AN
2:58:18PM UPDATE.
2:58:18PM GOING FORWARD, YOU'LL SEE THE FORMAT.
2:58:24PM WE HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SPONSOR, THAT'S ME.
2:58:26PM WE HAVE THE OWNER AND WE HAVE THE PROJECT MANAGER.
2:58:29PM SO ALL OF THE PROJECTS YOU WILL SEE THIS FORM.
2:58:39PM >> 92.
2:58:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 92.
2:58:43PM >> SOMEBODY SAID 2.
2:58:46PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: SHERISHA HILLS, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC.
2:58:48PM AS ADMINISTRATOR WYNN SAID, WE'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE OF
2:58:52PM WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR AND COMPLETED WITH THIS PROJECT AND
2:58:56PM THEN WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS.
2:58:57PM I'LL HAVE CHRIS THOMPSON GO AHEAD AND STEP UP AND TELL YOU
2:59:01PM WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND WHAT TO EXPECT ON THE UPCOMING MONTHS.
2:59:06PM >> THANK YOU.
2:59:06PM CHRIS THOMPSON, PARKS AND REC LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
2:59:10PM SO FAR ON THE EAST TAMPA RECREATION PROJECT, WE HAVE VACATED
2:59:14PM ALL NECESSARY STREETS TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
2:59:17PM WE HAVE HIRED A DESIGN-BUILD CONSULTANT.
2:59:22PM GOT UNDER A FIRST-PHASE AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
2:59:25PM THEY ARE CURRENTLY DESIGNING THE PROJECT.
2:59:27PM WE HAVE PURCHASED PROPERTY.
2:59:29PM WE HAVE DEMOLISHED A LARGE BUILDING TO MAKE WAY FOR
2:59:34PM IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SOUTH PART OF THE SITE.
2:59:37PM AND WE HAVE NOW HELD THREE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
2:59:42PM BACK ON FEBRUARY 15th, WE HAD OUR FIRST PUBLIC MEETING
2:59:46PM WITH A LITTLE OVER 100 IN ATTENDANCE AND SOME MEETING
2:59:49PM VIRTUALLY, AND WE GATHERED INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
2:59:55PM AT THAT TIME THE INPUT WAS COMPILED.
2:59:57PM THE CONSULTANT TOOK IT BACK AND CREATED A LIST OF WHAT THEY
3:00:01PM HEARD, WHAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN
3:00:04PM THEY CREATED THREE CONCEPTS WITH THAT.
3:00:10PM BEFORE THEY PRESENTED THAT, THEY ACTUALLY ALSO GOT INPUT ON
3:00:14PM FEBRUARY 18th FROM THE CHILDREN.
3:00:18PM MET AT FAIR OAKS, AND THEY HAD LUNCH AND CHILDREN WERE
3:00:23PM PROVIDED DIFFERENT PROFESSIONALS TO TALK TO, AND IT WAS AN
3:00:27PM OPEN DISCUSSION, AND THEY FOUND OUT WHAT THE KIDS ACTUALLY
3:00:31PM WANT IN THE AREA, WHAT DO THEY WANT TO SEE AND HOW DO THEY
3:00:34PM ENVISION IT?
3:00:35PM THEY COMPILED THE ADULT INFORMATION WITH THE CHILDREN'S
3:00:38PM INFORMATION TO CREATE THE THREE CONCEPTS, WHICH THEY
3:00:41PM PRESENTED ON MARCH 14th AT OUR THIRD PUBLIC MEETING AT
3:00:45PM MIDDLETON.
3:00:46PM AND THOSE THREE FLEXIBLE CONCEPTS WERE THEN DISCUSSED OUT IN
3:00:52PM PUBLIC FORUM.
3:00:54PM THE COMMENTS THAT CAME IN FROM THE COMMUNITY WERE THEN
3:00:57PM ADDRESSED AND FOLDED INTO ANOTHER CONCEPT WHICH WAS
3:01:02PM PRESENTED TO THE CITY AND WE THEN MADE OUR COMMENTS ON THAT
3:01:07PM SO THAT THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DESIGN OF THE EAST
3:01:11PM TAMPA RECREATIONAL CENTER SITE PLAN AND COMPLEX.
3:01:14PM RIGHT NOW, OUR NEXT MEETING IS AUGUST 16th, AND THAT WILL
3:01:21PM BE WHERE THE FINAL DESIGN IS PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC AT
3:01:25PM MIDDLETON, AND THAT DESIGN THEN WILL LEAD INTO OUR GMP SO
3:01:32PM THAT THE CONTRACTOR CAN START CONSTRUCTION IN THE FALL.
3:01:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:01:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE UPDATE.
3:01:40PM I WAS AT THAT LAST MEETING, AND SINCE THEN, ALL THROUGHOUT
3:01:46PM THE COMMUNITY, EVERY TIME I GO SOMEWHERE, SOMEONE SAYS TO
3:01:50PM ME, THE SENIORS ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR OWN BUILDING.
3:01:53PM THE SENIORS ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THEIR OWN BUILDING SEPARATE
3:01:55PM FROM THE CHILDREN.
3:01:56PM THEY DON'T WANT TO BE WITH THE CHILDREN.
3:01:58PM THEY ARE VERY INSISTENT ON THIS.
3:02:00PM THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE PROMISED.
3:02:02PM THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE TOLD.
3:02:03PM SO I'M REALLY HOPING THAT WHEN IT COMES BACK TO US THAT THAT
3:02:07PM IS WHAT WE SEE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS TELLING
3:02:11PM US SO LOUDLY.
3:02:14PM WHEN YOU DO PRESENT, ONE OF THE CONCERNS I SAW AT THAT
3:02:21PM PRESENTATION WAS THERE WAS A VERY SMALL SCREEN AND A LOT OF
3:02:25PM THOSE SENIORS CAN'T SEE -- WELL, ANYONE COULDN'T SEE.
3:02:29PM I COULDN'T SEE.
3:02:30PM I WAS SITTING IN THE BACK.
3:02:31PM IT WAS REALLY HARD TO SEE THE PRESENTATION.
3:02:33PM A COUPLE OF FOLKS MENTIONED IF THEY HAD PRINTOUTS SO THEY
3:02:36PM COULD LOOK AT THEM, I THINK THAT'S 100% WHAT WE SHOULD BE
3:02:40PM DOING WITH ALL PROJECTS IN THAT, WHEN WE'RE IN THAT STAGE.
3:02:44PM SO FOLKS CAN REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT IT, GO HOME, TAKE A LOOK,
3:02:47PM TAKE THE TIME UNTIL THEY HAVE TO PRESENT THE COMMENTS.
3:02:51PM A LOT OF FOLKS SAID THAT THEY JUST COULDN'T REMEMBER WHICH
3:02:54PM ONE WAS WHICH.
3:02:57PM SO I THINK WE DID A BIT OF A DISSERVICE THERE BECAUSE FOLKS
3:03:01PM REALLY JUST COULDN'T REMEMBER WHAT WAS WHERE AND THEY
3:03:04PM COULDN'T SEE IT ON THE SCREEN.
3:03:06PM BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I APPRECIATE FOLKS COMING OUT AND
3:03:12PM HAVING THAT CONVERSATION, BUT I WILL TELL YOU FROM NOW UNTIL
3:03:16PM AUGUST, WE WILL STILL BE HEARING THOSE COMMENTS THAT THE
3:03:21PM SENIORS REALLY WANT A SEPARATE CENTER.
3:03:23PM SO THANK YOU.
3:03:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:03:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTIONED ABOUT THE
3:03:30PM SENIORS.
3:03:30PM I'M GOOD.
3:03:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:03:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD YOU TELL US WHAT THE TOTAL BUDGET IS
3:03:36PM FOR THIS PROJECT NOW AND WHAT THE BIG BUCKETS ARE, LIKE THE
3:03:40PM TOP FIVE OR TEN BIG BUCKETS?
3:03:43PM >>CHRIS THOMPSON: THE TOTAL PROJECT IS RIGHT AROUND 40
3:03:45PM MILLION.
3:03:46PM TOTAL PROJECT, DESIGN, ACQUISITION, I THINK IT'S MAYBE 41
3:03:50PM MILLION BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE CRA PUT MONEY IN FOR THE
3:03:54PM PURCHASE OF PROPERTY, BUT THE ACTUAL DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION
3:03:58PM IS 40 MILLION.
3:04:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT ARE SOME OF THE BIG BUCKETS THAT THAT'S
3:04:02PM GOING TO GO TOWARD?
3:04:04PM >>CHRIS THOMPSON: THE BIG ITEMS, WELL, A NEW SENIOR CENTER.
3:04:09PM THERE WILL BE OUTDOOR IMPROVED FOOTBALL SPORTS FIELD,
3:04:14PM SHUFFLEBOARD, OPEN EVENT AREA, OPEN LAWN, RESTROOMS, SPLASH
3:04:21PM PAD, AND THE PLAYGROUND, IMPROVED PLAY AREAS FOR 2 THROUGH 5
3:04:27PM AS WELL AS 5 THROUGH 12.
3:04:29PM THERE WILL BE RECREATIONAL COMPLEX THAT WILL TAKE OVER THE
3:04:37PM CURRENT PROGRAMS AT THE FAIR OAKS CENTER AS WELL AS A
3:04:43PM CONSOLIDATED SENIOR PROGRAMMING.
3:04:46PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: THIS WAS EVERYTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED AT
3:04:48PM THE MEETINGS THAT WERE BASED OFF OF THE FEEDBACK AS WELL.
3:04:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I RECALLED
3:04:55PM EVERYTHING CORRECTLY.
3:04:56PM FIRST OF ALL, WHEN THE COMMUNITY CAME TO US ABOUT FAIR OAKS
3:05:02PM FOUR YEARS AGO, WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT THEY HAVEN'T
3:05:06PM EVEN HAD THE BUILDING REPAINTED IN EVER, I THINK, AT LEAST
3:05:10PM IN DECADES.
3:05:10PM AND THERE WERE RATS IN THE CEILING AND I THINK SOME STAFF
3:05:15PM THINK THERE WEREN'T, BUT THEY DID FIND AT LEAST ONE, AND THE
3:05:19PM SENIORS AND OTHERS TOLD US THEY WERE THERE.
3:05:21PM IT WAS A FIRE TRAP.
3:05:22PM ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS.
3:05:23PM WE, CRA BOARD AND CITY COUNCIL PUSHED TO HAVE SOMETHING.
3:05:28PM I THINK WE ESTIMATED ROUGHLY IN THE FOUR TO FIVE MILLION
3:05:30PM DOLLARS RANGE AND THEN CAME BACK AT LIKE 14 MILLION AND NOW
3:05:34PM 41 MILLION.
3:05:35PM I THINK EAST TAMPA DESERVES A QUALITY PARK AND EAST TAMPA
3:05:40PM HAS BEEN UNDERREPRESENTED FOR A LONG TIME.
3:05:43PM DEFINITELY DESERVES.
3:05:45PM THE BUDGET FOR THE WHOLE CITY FOR A YEAR IS $5 MILLION FOR
3:05:49PM PARKS, AND THE OTHER PEOPLE AND OTHER PARKS ARE OUTRAGED.
3:05:54PM GOING FROM FIVE MILLION TO REBUILD THE BUILDING OR
3:06:02PM 14 MILLION TO ADD SOME AMENITIES TO 41 MILLION, PEOPLE ARE
3:06:08PM OUTRAGED BECAUSE THERE ARE SIMPLE THINGS THAT ARE BROKEN IN
3:06:11PM OTHER PARKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT PEOPLE FELT.
3:06:14PM IF THERE WAS BONDING CAPACITY THAT PEOPLE FEEL THAT WE
3:06:19PM SHOULD HAVE DONE THE PLAN FIRST.
3:06:23PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PARKS PRIORITY PLAN, AND THEN IF WE HAD
3:06:26PM BONDING CAPACITY, WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT.
3:06:29PM AGAIN, I THINK THAT EAST TAMPA DEFINITELY DESERVES A BIG
3:06:34PM INVESTMENT, BUT OTHER PARKS IN EAST TAMPA THAT ARE NOT BEING
3:06:37PM UPGRADED ALSO AND AT LEAST I'M HEARING COMPLAINTS ABOUT
3:06:41PM THAT.
3:06:41PM WHAT I WOULD ASK, THIS ONE IS TOO LATE.
3:06:48PM BUT AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE PLAN AND THE OBJECTIVE
3:06:53PM PRIORITIZATION OF THE PLAN, IF SOMEONE HAS BONDING CAPACITY
3:06:57PM LIKE THAT, THAT GOES ABOVE THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE ANNUALLY,
3:07:02PM I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A LARGER ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
3:07:05PM CITYWIDE PRIORITIES.
3:07:06PM IT WAS EASY TO TELL THAT THAT BUILDING AT FAIR OAKS NEEDED
3:07:10PM TO BE REPLACED AND IT WAS EASY TO TELL THEY DIDN'T HAVE A
3:07:15PM COMPUTER CENTER, ALL THESE THINGS.
3:07:18PM 5 MILLION TO 40 MILLION, THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW ABOUT IT IN THE
3:07:21PM PUBLIC ARE REALLY OUTRAGED BY IT.
3:07:24PM SOME PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA THAT WILL BE HAPPY, PEOPLE NEAR
3:07:27PM THE PARKS THAT AREN'T BEING RENOVATED AREN'T HAPPY.
3:07:30PM I THINK NEXT TIME WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB FIGURING OUT
3:07:34PM WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH MONEY.
3:07:37PM THIS IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN JULIAN LANE PARK, WHICH
3:07:46PM EVERYBODY THOUGHT WAS EXTRAVAGANT AND OUTRAGEOUS.
3:07:49PM THE REASON WHY I ASKED FOR THE BIG BUCKETS, THE PART OF
3:07:50PM JULIAN LANE THAT PEOPLE WERE IN PARTICULAR INCENSED ABOUT
3:07:55PM WAS THE BOATHOUSE FOR 12 MILLION.
3:07:57PM I'M HOPING THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT IN THIS.
3:08:00PM BUT, PLEASE, WITH ALL THE PRIORITIES OF PARKS THROUGHOUT THE
3:08:02PM CITY, WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE COMPLAINTS ALL THE TIME.
3:08:05PM WE NEED TO STEP BACK AND SEE WHAT CAPACITY WE HAVE.
3:08:08PM I WOULD HAVE MAYBE SAID, LET'S PUT 15 OR 20 MILLION INTO
3:08:12PM THIS BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY
3:08:15PM COMPARED TO OUR ANNUAL BUDGET.
3:08:16PM IF WE COULD HAVE SPENT FOUR TIMES THE ANNUAL BUDGET
3:08:19PM THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE CITY TO FIX THINGS.
3:08:22PM BUT, PLEASE, AS WE GO THROUGH THE FUTURE BUDGETING PROCESS,
3:08:25PM LET'S STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE PRIORITIES AND BE OBJECTIVE
3:08:28PM ABOUT THE REST OF THE CITY, INCLUDING EAST TAMPA.
3:08:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:08:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HEARD A LOT OF AMENITIES BUT I DIDN'T
3:08:35PM HEAR ABOUT THAT GYMNASTICS AT ALL.
3:08:38PM I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THE GYMNASTICS IN THERE AT ALL.
3:08:44PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: HE DIDN'T GO DOWN EVERY SINGLE DETAIL.
3:08:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS.
3:08:49PM I KNOW SOME PEOPLE IN OTHER AREAS MIGHT BE UPSET, BUT THIS
3:08:52PM TIME I'M GOING TO SAY I'M SORRY TO UPSET BECAUSE THE EAST
3:08:56PM SIDE HASN'T GOTTEN FOR DECADES.
3:08:59PM I KNOW A BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY.
3:09:01PM I'M SORRY, THEY NEVER HAD ANYTHING AS IT AMOUNTS TO MONEY ON
3:09:05PM THAT SIDE OF TOWN EVER.
3:09:07PM I MEAN, EVER.
3:09:08PM IT IS WHAT IT IS AT THIS POINT, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
3:09:13PM THE SENIORS HAVE THEIR OWN PLACE.
3:09:16PM THEY DON'T WANT TO BE ON TOP OF NO BUILDING.
3:09:18PM THEY WANT THEIR OWN PLACE TO WALK INTO, AND THIS WHOLE
3:09:23PM THING, FAIR OAKS CAME INTO PLAY LATER ON, BUT THE PREMISE OF
3:09:29PM THIS WHOLE 2019 WAS ABOUT THE SENIORS AND THOSE KIDS, AND IT
3:09:34PM WAS ABOUT THE SENIORS HAVING THEIR OWN PLACE AND GYMNASTICS
3:09:38PM SO THOSE KIDS WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO DANCE STEP ON THE CONCRETE
3:09:43PM AT JACKSON HEIGHTS AND SOME OF THE OTHER PARKS.
3:09:45PM THAT WAY THEY CAN ALL GO BECAUSE OTHER GYMNASTIC PLACES, OUR
3:09:50PM KIDS COULDN'T GET INTO.
3:09:51PM THEY HAD NO TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO.
3:09:53PM THOSE ARE THE TICKET ITEMS.
3:09:54PM THE FAIR OAKS COMPLEX CAME IN LATER.
3:09:59PM IT WAS ALL ABOUT AL BARNES.
3:10:01PM THE COUNTY GAVE US $500,000 TOWARD THE PROJECT.
3:10:05PM IT WAS SUPPOSED TO ALL BE AT THE AL BARNES PARK BUT THE
3:10:10PM INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD HAVE COST US MORE.
3:10:11PM THE DEAL WAS BROKEN TO BRING EVERYTHING FOR EVERYONE IN EAST
3:10:15PM TAMPA.
3:10:15PM I HOPE ALL THE CHILDREN, NOT JUST CHILDREN AROUND FAIR OAKS
3:10:21PM BUT ALL THE CHILDREN IN EAST TAMPA HAD THEIR CHANCE TO PUT
3:10:24PM TWO CENTS IN AS WELL.
3:10:25PM WHAT I'M SEEING, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
3:10:27PM WHAT I'M SEEING, KIDS IN JUST THAT ONE AREA WAS AT THAT
3:10:32PM MEETING.
3:10:32PM NOT ALL THE KIDS FROM DIFFERENT OTHER PARKS IN EAST TAMPA
3:10:35PM AND NOT ALL THE COMMUNITIES, THE ONES, THE SENIORS, NOT ALL
3:10:38PM OTHER COMMUNITIES WERE AT THESE BECAUSE NOBODY UNDERSTAND.
3:10:41PM BUT THAT CAN IS DOWN THE ROAD NOW.
3:10:43PM WE DON'T NEED NO MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS.
3:10:46PM WE DON'T NEED NO MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS.
3:10:52PM ALL WE NEED NOW IS KEEP MOVING FORWARD TO THAT DAY TO START
3:10:55PM BREAKING GROUND.
3:10:56PM WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED.
3:10:58PM GYMNASTICS FOR THE DANCE AND STEP.
3:11:00PM THAT SENIOR CENTER.
3:11:02PM JUMP ACROSS THE STREET, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO RECONSTRUCT IT
3:11:06PM FOR THE BALL FIELDS AND WHATEVER, IN THAT CENTER, WHATEVER.
3:11:11PM BUT PRETTY MUCH.
3:11:14PM I THINK IT'S BEEN TOLD WHAT NEEDS TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY SO
3:11:18PM THEY CAN THRIVE.
3:11:19PM I APPRECIATE THE WORK, BUT NOW IT'S TIME TO START PUTTING
3:11:24PM THAT BRICK AND MORTAR UP.
3:11:25PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: WE DO HAVE ONE MORE COMMUNITY MEETING BUT
3:11:28PM THAT IS TO GIVE THEM THE 100% BECAUSE WE TOLD THEM WE WOULD
3:11:31PM COME BACK WITH IT.
3:11:32PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GET IT.
3:11:34PM ALL RIGHT.
3:11:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:11:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I GOT TO FOLLOW THAT.
3:11:41PM I'M GOING TO REMINISCE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OLD CUSCADEN
3:11:46PM PARK.
3:11:47PM IT WAS DIFFERENT THEN.
3:11:48PM YOU HAD INDIVIDUALS WORKING FOR THE CITY THAT WERE THE PARK
3:11:51PM DIRECTORS IN SPORTS AT THE PARK.
3:11:54PM WAY BEYOND YOUR TIME.
3:11:57PM ANDREW WITH THE GUYS AND MS. MEXICO WITH THE GIRLS.
3:12:01PM WE NEVER SAW THE GIRLS BECAUSE THEY WERE ON THE OTHER SIDE
3:12:04PM OF THE PARK, BEYOND THE SWIMMING POOL AND WE WERE ON THE
3:12:07PM NORTH SIDE OF THE POOL.
3:12:08PM AND HE HAD TO TEACH US FOOTBALL, BASEBALL, WHATEVER WE
3:12:14PM WANTED HE HAD TO TEACH US.
3:12:16PM ONLY ONE PROBLEM, IT WAS ONLY GOOD IN ONE AREA, AND THAT WAS
3:12:21PM BASEBALL.
3:12:22PM THEREFORE, MOST OF US NEVER WENT AND PRACTICED BASKETBALL,
3:12:25PM NO THAT THE WE WEREN'T LOOKING FOR IT AND THEN BIT THE BOYS
3:12:29PM CLUB IN THE EARLY '50s.
3:12:31PM AND MR. MURPHY, THE FIRST SEVEN FOOTER TO PLAY PROFESSIONAL
3:12:35PM BASKETBALL AND HE WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THAT AREA AND ALL OF
3:12:38PM US WENT BACK TO CUSCADEN PARK AND ALL OF US WENT BACK TO THE
3:12:44PM BOYS CLUB ON THE SAME TRACT OF LAND REALLY.
3:12:49PM BUT DOING THAT, IT WAS NOTHING ABOUT, WE HAD THREE THINGS.
3:12:56PM SEESAW, ONE ON EACH SIDE.
3:12:58PM FOUR PEOPLE COULD DO IT AND THAT WAS IT.
3:13:00PM THEN -- YOU PUSHED IT, JUMPED ON IT, WENT AROUND IT YOURSELF
3:13:07PM AND A SLIDE.
3:13:08PM IF YOU DON'T WATCH IT, YOU LOSE YOUR PANTS BECAUSE HALFWAY
3:13:13PM CRACKED.
3:13:13PM EVERYBODY WAS HAPPY.
3:13:14PM EVERYBODY HAD A PLACE TO GO BEFORE SCHOOL AND AFTER SCHOOL
3:13:17PM AND ON WEEKENDS.
3:13:18PM IT TURNED OUT INDIVIDUALS THAT BECAME DOCTORS, LAWYERS, ALL
3:13:23PM KIND OF GOOD THINGS.
3:13:25PM AND IT'S NOT WHAT YOU SPEND.
3:13:28PM IT'S WHAT THE KIDS LEAVE WHEN THEY LEAVE THE PARK, ABOUT THE
3:13:31PM UP FEELING ABOUT LIFE.
3:13:33PM AND MOST OF US COULDN'T BUY AN ICE-CREAM CONE FOR TEN CENTS.
3:13:39PM SOMEBODY GAVE YOU THE TEN CENTS TO HAVE AN ICE-CREAM CONE.
3:13:42PM SO IT WAS JUST A FEELING.
3:13:45PM TALK TO US ABOUT RIGHT AND WRONG.
3:13:47PM IT TAUGHT US -- IT OPENED YOUR EYES ABOUT THE WORLD YOU
3:13:51PM MIGHT NOT HAVE KNOWN BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING.
3:13:53PM IT TAUGHT US ABOUT GETTING ALONG WITH ONE ANOTHER.
3:13:56PM IT TAUGHT US A LOT MORE THAN JUST SPORTS.
3:13:59PM SO I HOPE THAT THIS IS THE SAME THING, CALL IT CUSCADEN PARK
3:14:07PM 2 BUT MUCH MORE AMENITIES.
3:14:08PM I DON'T THINK NONE OF US WOULD HAVE MADE IT IN WHAT YOU CALL
3:14:11PM THE OLYMPIC STYLE, THE BOARD, THE SWINGS, AND THE JUMPING OF
3:14:16PM THE TWO BY TWO BOARD, THAT WE WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE BECAUSE
3:14:19PM NONE OF US WERE THAT TALENTED AT THAT SPORT.
3:14:22PM BUT IT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A YOUNG PERSON TO DO
3:14:26PM SOMETHING WITH THEIR LIFE THAT THEY'LL ALWAYS REMEMBER.
3:14:29PM ALWAYS REMEMBER.
3:14:31PM SAME 12 KIDS I PLAYED WITH STILL REMEMBER EACH OTHER, STILL
3:14:34PM CALL EACH OTHER, AND THAT WAS 70 YEARS AGO.
3:14:38PM SO THAT MAKES ME 68.
3:14:40PM WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS THAT THESE ARE THE THINGS
3:14:44PM THAT YOU GROW UP WITH.
3:14:46PM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT CARRY YOU THROUGH LIFE, NOT ONLY
3:14:49PM WHERE YOU COME FROM, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AROUND YOU THAT
3:14:52PM YOU SEE THEM WILLING TO TRY SOMETHING TO LEARN TO BE A
3:14:55PM BETTER PERSON AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
3:14:59PM IT'S ABOUT GIVING SOME KIDS THE ADVANTAGE THAT THEY NEVER
3:15:02PM HAD BEFORE AND GIVING AN ADVANCE ON LIFE TO BE EQUAL WITH
3:15:05PM THE REST OF US.
3:15:06PM THAT'S WHY I SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
3:15:08PM THANK YOU.
3:15:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
3:15:10PM COMMENTS?
3:15:11PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, DOES THIS REPORT SATISFY YOU?
3:15:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, SIR.
3:15:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:15:17PM THANK YOU ALL.
3:15:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:15:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: QUICK QUESTION.
3:15:26PM WILL WE GET A REPORT BEFORE AUGUST?
3:15:28PM WILL WE GET AN UPDATE BEFORE AUGUST?
3:15:31PM ON THIS?
3:15:33PM >>SHERISHA HILLS: ON THIS, NO.
3:15:35PM RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE GOING THROUGH DESIGN TO GET US TO THAT
3:15:38PM 100 PERCENT.
3:15:39PM SO THIS IS THEIR TIME TO TAKE ALL THE FEEDBACK FROM THE
3:15:42PM MEETINGS AND THEN GET US TO 100% BY AUGUST.
3:15:45PM THAT WILL BE OUR NEXT UPDATE.
3:15:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WILL WE HAVE A CHANCE TO SEE THIS BEFORE IT
3:15:50PM GOES TO THE PUBLIC?
3:15:54PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
3:15:55PM >>OCEA WYNN: I DON'T THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
3:15:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
3:15:58PM I THINK WE ALL NEED TO BE PREPARED.
3:16:01PM THANK YOU.
3:16:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE MORE, NUMBER 95.
3:16:12PM FILE CM 22-76982.
3:16:20PM >> JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
3:16:23PM WITH REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER 95 ON THE AGENDA.
3:16:26PM JUST A REMINDER, CITY COUNCIL HAD A MOTION, REQUESTED THAT
3:16:30PM LEGAL STAFF PRESENT A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE
3:16:34PM CONTRACTS OVER $20 MILLION TO BE DISCUSSED ON THE AGENDA TWO
3:16:37PM WEEKS BEFORE THE VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT.
3:16:39PM I PROVIDED COUNCIL WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE AND I'M HERE TO
3:16:42PM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
3:16:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:16:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS THE THIRD TIME I GET TO SAY THANK
3:16:51PM YOU TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TODAY.
3:16:53PM SOMETHING WE REQUESTED AND THE STAFFING IN GOOD FAITH TODAY
3:16:58PM HAD THE SECOND READING OF AN ITEM THEY WEREN'T EVEN REQUIRED
3:17:01PM TO DO AND IT WENT FINE.
3:17:04PM THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH REAL ESTATE ITEMS.
3:17:08PM IT BRINGS IT BACK FOR A SECOND READING.
3:17:09PM WHAT I WOULD MAYBE SUGGEST IS FOR THE SECOND TIME IT COMES
3:17:13PM BACK, SOMEBODY PUT SECOND READING ON IT IN THE HEADER SO
3:17:16PM THAT IF I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, I CAN.
3:17:19PM BUT IF WE PUT SECOND READING, THEN IT'S CLEAR THAT IT'S
3:17:22PM COMING UP THE SECOND TIME SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONFUSION
3:17:25PM FROM SOMEBODY WHO THINKS, HERE WE GO AGAIN, ANOTHER 70
3:17:29PM MILLION.
3:17:29PM JUST ASKED FOR 70 MILLION TWO WEEKS AGO.
3:17:31PM I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT.
3:17:33PM CAN WE MAKE A MOTION FOR THE ORDINANCE TODAY OR NEED TO HAVE
3:17:35PM IT SCHEDULED TO COME BACK.
3:17:37PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: WE'LL SCHEDULE FOR MAY 4th.
3:17:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: SCHEDULED ALREADY OR NEED TO DO IT.
3:17:41PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO SCHEDULE FOR MAY
3:17:44PM 4th.
3:17:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: I MAKE A MOTION TO BRING BACK FOR FIRST
3:17:47PM READING ON MAY 4th.
3:17:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:17:50PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:17:52PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:17:53PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:17:53PM MOTION CARRIES.
3:17:55PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: THANK YOU.
3:17:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE THAT CLEARS OFF OUR AGENDA.
3:17:59PM INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
3:18:00PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:18:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: A SMALL ONE FIRST.
3:18:12PM TOO BAD VIERA IS NOT HERE.
3:18:18PM IN MARCH, WE HAD AN EXTRA THURSDAY, SO WE WERE OFF, BUT THEN
3:18:27PM WE WORKED THE WEEK OF SPRING BREAK.
3:18:31PM I WOULD JUST ASK -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT IN
3:18:35PM THE 2024 CALENDAR WE REPLACE -- I HAD THE DATE DOWN -- RIGHT
3:18:50PM NOW, THERE'S ALSO LEAP YEAR, FEBRUARY 29th THAT WE COULD
3:18:53PM ADD BACK IN.
3:18:54PM I FORGOT THE DATE -- I FORGOT TO WRITE DOWN THE DATE OF
3:18:58PM SPRING BREAK.
3:18:58PM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS SPRING BREAK IS LIKE MARCH
3:19:02PM 18 OR SOMETHING.
3:19:03PM I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE EITHER MOVE THAT DATE TO FEBRUARY
3:19:08PM 29 OR THAT WE MOVE EVERYTHING ELSE UP.
3:19:11PM WE'RE NOW A YEAR OUT, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT
3:19:16PM ANY PROBLEMS.
3:19:17PM YOU FOLLOW ME?
3:19:17PM MY MOTION IS FROM HERE ON OUT, REPLACE THE THURSDAY THAT
3:19:25PM FALLS WITHIN THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS SPRING BREAK
3:19:28PM CALENDAR WITH ANOTHER THURSDAY THAT'S OPEN.
3:19:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
3:19:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE IS NO FIFTH WEEK.
3:19:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE IS FEBRUARY 29.
3:19:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT YOU'LL HAVE THEN IS YOU'LL HAVE --
3:19:46PM THERE IS A FIFTH WEEK IN FEBRUARY.
3:19:47PM WHAT YOU'LL HAVE IS YOU'LL HAVE THREE MEETINGS IN FEBRUARY
3:19:51PM AND ONE MEETING IN MARCH.
3:19:53PM DID I HEAR THAT CORRECT?
3:19:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MEETINGS IN FEBRUARY AND
3:20:00PM THREE MEETINGS IN MARCH.
3:20:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M TALKING ABOUT REGULAR MEETINGS.
3:20:03PM THE FIRST, THE THIRD, AND THE FIFTH FRIDAY.
3:20:08PM -- THURSDAY.
3:20:10PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
3:20:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIVE THE RULES FOR THAT.
3:20:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW WHAT GENERIC RULE THAT WOULD
3:20:22PM COVER IT EVERY YEAR.
3:20:23PM THE IDEA IS THAT WE WOULD SHIFT THE DATES TO A FIFTH
3:20:28PM THURSDAY INSTEAD OF MEETING DURING THE THURSDAY THAT'S IN
3:20:33PM SPRING BREAK.
3:20:34PM FIRST OF ALL, FOR OUR OWN SCHEDULES BUT ALSO STAFF HAVE KIDS
3:20:38PM AND THE PUBLIC HAS KIDS.
3:20:41PM SO THERE'S A LOT OF ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES, AND IT DOESN'T
3:20:45PM COVER ALL THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS THAT MIGHT HAVE IT OR
3:20:47PM UNIVERSITIES THAT MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT TIME, BUT IF WE
3:20:50PM FOLLOW HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS, I WAS THINKING BESIDES
3:20:53PM MYSELF, WHATEVER STAFF MEMBERS HAVE, ALL THE STAFF HAVE TO
3:20:56PM BE HERE.
3:20:56PM IF THEY HAVE KIDS, THEN THEY ARE FORCED TO WORK THAT WEEK,
3:21:01PM TOO.
3:21:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY DON'T WE HAVE SOMEONE LOOK AT IT AND COME
3:21:05PM BACK TO US WITH A PLAN.
3:21:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE INTENTION, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IS THAT
3:21:11PM COUNCIL NOT MEET ON THE WEEK THAT HILLSBOROUGH SCHOOLS HAVE
3:21:16PM SPRING BREAK.
3:21:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD ASK STAFF TO COME BACK, WHAT IS OUR
3:21:20PM NEXT REGULAR MEETING?
3:21:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS A BIG DAY.
3:21:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD ASK STAFF TO COME BACK ON MAY 4th
3:21:34PM TO REPORT ON THE POSSIBILITY OF REPLACING THE THURSDAY WHICH
3:21:39PM FALLS EACH YEAR DURING THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL SPRING
3:21:44PM BREAK WITH AN ALTERNATE THURSDAY.
3:21:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION?
3:21:48PM CONSIDER THE 18th OF MAY BECAUSE THAT WILL BE -- MAY 4th
3:21:55PM --
3:21:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAY 18th.
3:21:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 4th WILL BE THE FIRST MEETING AND
3:21:59PM GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO LEARN ABOUT THAT AND PREPARE
3:22:01PM FOR THE 18th.
3:22:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAY 18.
3:22:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:22:11PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:22:13PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:22:14PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
3:22:15PM MOTION CARRIES.
3:22:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK
3:22:19PM STAFF TO RETURN ON MAY 18th WITH ANY IDEAS REGARDING A
3:22:27PM RESOLUTION OR ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE THAT CITY STAFF USE GOVQA
3:22:36PM TO MAKE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS.
3:22:38PM MOTION TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK ON MAY 18th TO DISCUSS THE
3:22:44PM POSSIBILITY OF AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION TO REQUIRE THAT
3:22:48PM CITY STAFF USE GOV-QA WHEN MAKING PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS.
3:22:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
3:22:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE IDEA HERE IS THAT -- I KNOW CHIEF OF
3:23:00PM STAFF AND MAYBE OTHERS, WHEN I'VE NEEDED INFORMATION HAVE
3:23:03PM SAID, WELL, INSTEAD OF FILING AN OFFICIAL PUBLIC RECORDS
3:23:06PM REQUEST, WHY DON'T YOU GO THROUGH US.
3:23:10PM THERE'S NO DISCLOSURE TO THE PUBLIC THAT THAT'S BEEN DONE.
3:23:14PM SO I'VE STARTED MAKING ALL MINE THROUGH GOV QA SO IT IS
3:23:19PM TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC.
3:23:21PM IN THE MAILERS DONE AGAINST ME AS AN EXAMPLE, THERE WERE
3:23:23PM COPIES OF MY DISCLOSURE FORMS BUT I PULLED PUBLIC RECORDS ON
3:23:29PM PEOPLE WHO PULL PUBLIC RECORDS ON MY DISCLOSURE FORMS AND
3:23:32PM THERE WAS ONLY ONE PUBLIC RECORDS SEARCH TWO YEARS AGO AND
3:23:35PM NONE OF THEM WERE UPDATED.
3:23:37PM SOMEHOW, SOMEBODY GOT THE INFORMATION WITHOUT A PUBLIC
3:23:40PM RECORDS REQUEST.
3:23:41PM IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT POLITICS.
3:23:43PM IT'S JUST ABOUT BEING TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC.
3:23:45PM WHAT LEGAL MAY DO IS SAY, WELL, IF SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO
3:23:48PM PULL INFORMATION DIRECTLY RELATED TO THEIR JOB, THAT'S FINE.
3:23:51PM BUT IF SOMEBODY IS PULLING CITY COUNCIL E-MAILS OR
3:23:54PM PULLING -- IF A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS TO PULL THE
3:23:58PM MAYOR'S E-MAILS, THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT
3:24:02PM SURREPTITIOUSLY, WE SHOULD DO IT WITH FULL DISCLOSURE TO THE
3:24:06PM PUBLIC IS MY REQUEST.
3:24:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY BECAUSE
3:24:13PM I CAN PROVE, I'M SURE YOU COULD ALSO WHEN RUNNING FOR
3:24:17PM OFFICE, THEY CAN SAY ANYTHING THEY WANT LIKE THEY HAVE DONE
3:24:19PM THE LAST TWO WEEKS.
3:24:22PM ONE IOTA WHAT EVERYONE SAYS.
3:24:25PM DARK MONEY, GRAY MONEY, WHATEVER IT IS.
3:24:28PM THERE'S NO TRACE OF THAT.
3:24:29PM IT'S HARD TO FIND.
3:24:30PM I TRACED IT DOWN.
3:24:32PM WHAT AM I DOING?
3:24:33PM I'M NOT GOING TO CHASE THAT.
3:24:35PM CHASE MY OWN FEELING OF WHAT I NEED TO DO TO GET REELECTED.
3:24:39PM I'M NOT GOING TO BOTHER WITH SOMEBODY SAYING HALF-TRUTH, ONE
3:24:45PM WORD AND THEY LEAVE OUT THE REST OF THE PARAGRAPH.
3:24:48PM THAT'S WHAT IS HAPPENING.
3:24:49PM THAT IS THE POLITICAL GAME.
3:24:50PM I DON'T PLAY IT.
3:24:51PM I'M SURE YOU DON'T EITHER.
3:24:52PM THEY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT ABOUT CHARLIE MIRANDA OR
3:24:55PM PICK IT UP WHATEVER THEY WANT.
3:24:57PM NOT AFRAID OF THAT.
3:24:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE I GAVE A BAD EXAMPLE.
3:25:00PM IF ONE OF US WANTS TO PULL INFORMATION ABOUT SOMETHING,
3:25:07PM LET'S SAY ONE OF US WANTED TO PULL THE MAYOR'S TRAVEL
3:25:10PM SCHEDULE, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TO CLOSE TO THAT PUBLICLY.
3:25:14PM THAT'S MY POINT.
3:25:15PM THIS IS ABOUT PUBLIC DISCLOSURE.
3:25:16PM IF I WANTED TO FIND OUT THE E-MAILS TO AND FROM LEGAL
3:25:23PM DEPARTMENT REGARDING ONE OF THE MOTIONS TODAY, I THINK I
3:25:26PM SHOULD HAVE TO FILE -- I THINK I SHOULD HAVE TO DISCLOSE TO
3:25:29PM THE PUBLIC THAT I REQUESTED THAT.
3:25:31PM I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE DONE THROUGH BACK CHANNELS.
3:25:34PM MY POINT IS THAT WHATEVER REQUEST PEOPLE MAKE NOT DIRECTLY
3:25:37PM RELATED TO THEIR JOB SHOULD BE PUBLICLY DISCLOSED.
3:25:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT AT ALL.
3:25:43PM BECAUSE I DON'T PULL ANY.
3:25:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
3:25:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU RAISE AN INTERESTING QUESTION THAT I
3:25:49PM DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO.
3:25:50PM THERE IS AN ASSUMPTION THERE THAT THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS TO
3:25:53PM THE LISTING OF ALL THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS THAT ARE
3:25:56PM MADE.
3:25:56PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARILY THE CASE.
3:25:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: LET'S HAVE FOLKS COME BACK ON MAY 18 AND
3:26:01PM WE'LL DISCUSS IT.
3:26:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WILL BE FINE.
3:26:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DROPPING YOUR MOTION --
3:26:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO, NO.
3:26:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:26:09PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
3:26:10PM FROM HURTAK.
3:26:12PM EXCUSE ME, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:26:15PM ALL IN FAVOR AYE.
3:26:16PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:26:17PM MOTION CARRIES.
3:26:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTHING.
3:26:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOTHING.
3:26:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?
3:26:25PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
3:26:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE ONE, A GENTLEMAN NAMED DAVID FACEL
3:26:31PM SENT ME AN E-MAIL REGARDING WATER.
3:26:33PM HE SAYS WATER IN TAMPA BAY IS PRECIOUS TO ALL OF US.
3:26:36PM THE LACK OF RAIN, WE SHOULD BE CUTTING BACK ON USAGE UNTIL
3:26:41PM THE RAINY SEASON KICKS IN.
3:26:44PM WATER RESTRICTIONS HOPEFULLY ON THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT.
3:26:47PM THE PUBLIC SHOULD START CUTTING BACK ON WATER USAGE UNTIL
3:26:51PM THE RAINY SEASON KICKS IN.
3:26:53PM THIS IS VERY TRUE.
3:26:54PM I NEVER MET THE GENTLEMAN, BUT I THINK HE'S SAYING SOMETHING
3:26:57PM FROM THE HEART AND I WOULD LIKE THE WATER DEPARTMENT TO COME
3:27:00PM IN IN THE NEXT, MAY 18th I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD ONE,
3:27:08PM REGARDING WHAT THE STATEMENTS I MADE HERE.
3:27:11PM I'LL TURN THIS IN AS A REQUEST SO THEY CAN EXPLAIN WHAT'S
3:27:14PM GOING ON, AND HOW THEY COMMUNICATE WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC
3:27:19PM ON THE WATERING DAYS AND SO FORTH.
3:27:21PM I STILL HAVE I BELIEVE THE WATER PATROL WHO GOES OUT AND
3:27:26PM MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE WATERING ON THEIR DAY AND NOT SOMEBODY
3:27:29PM ELSE'S DAY.
3:27:30PM THEY CAN EXPLAIN IT BETTER THAN I CAN.
3:27:32PM I WOULD APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH IF THE COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE
3:27:35PM THAT.
3:27:36PM >> SECOND.
3:27:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:27:38PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:27:40PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:27:42PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:27:42PM MOTION CARRIES.
3:27:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEED THAT GENTLEMAN'S E-MAIL SO I CAN
3:27:51PM SEND HIM I NOTE THAT I DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT SO HE CAN BE
3:27:54PM HERE IF HE WOULD LIKE.
3:27:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:27:58PM I MOVE TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO THE RADIO SHOW, WHAT'S
3:28:01PM REALLY HAPPENING.
3:28:02PM THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR SIX YEARS,
3:28:05PM GETTING IMPORTANT INFORMATION CONCERNING THE CITY AND THE
3:28:07PM COUNTY TO RAISE AND FOR RAISING MONEY FOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT
3:28:11PM MAY HAVE BEEN VERY OUTSPOKEN AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE AND
3:28:15PM SUPPORTING OTHER CHURCHES EVENTS.
3:28:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM THE CHAIRMAN.
3:28:20PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
3:28:21PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:28:23PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:28:24PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:28:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S OFF-SITE.
3:28:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO THAT WILL BE NEXT TUESDAY.
3:28:29PM WE DISCUSSED THAT.
3:28:30PM ONLY FOUR PRESENTATIONS NEXT TUESDAY, AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE
3:28:33PM ONLY FIVE THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO PRESENT.
3:28:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:28:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO YOU'RE GOING TO ADD THAT TO THE AGENDA
3:28:41PM FOR THE COMMENDATIONS?
3:28:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE'LL HAVE A WALK-ON THEN.
3:28:45PM FOR TUESDAY, THE 11th.
3:28:50PM THANK YOU.
3:28:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:28:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN --
3:28:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
3:28:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: REGARDING THE CALENDAR, COUNCIL, JUST A
3:29:02PM REMINDER, AS YOU BROUGHT IT UP, COUNCIL HAS ITS LAST
3:29:06PM COMMENDATION DAY, IT'S ALREADY BEEN NOTICED AND IT'S BEEN AN
3:29:10PM AGENDA PREPARED, THAT IS THIS COMING TUESDAY.
3:29:12PM A REMINDER FOR COUNCIL THAT YOU DO HAVE COMMENDATIONS FOR
3:29:16PM THE ATU, THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH, THE FIREFIGHTER OF
3:29:18PM THE QUARTER AND ANGELA ALDERMAN AND NOW WE HAVE THE FIFTH
3:29:23PM ONE THAT YOU HAVE ADDED.
3:29:26PM BUT I'D LIKE COUNCIL AT THIS POINT IN TIME TO MAKE A MOTION
3:29:29PM TO REMOVE THE REMAINING TUESDAY COMMENDATION DAYS FOR THE
3:29:34PM REST OF THE CALENDAR BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THOSE NOW
3:29:37PM SCHEDULED FOR THE REGULAR MEETINGS.
3:29:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
3:29:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
3:29:43PM MANISCALCO.
3:29:43PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:29:45PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:29:46PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
3:29:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:29:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION CARRIES.
3:29:51PM >>THE CLERK: CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE
3:29:53PM DOCUMENT --
3:29:55PM >> SO MOVED.
3:29:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:29:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:29:59PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:30:01PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:30:01PM MOTION CARRIES.
3:30:03PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:30:06PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:30:08PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:30:09PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:30:10PM MOTION CARRIES.
3:30:11PM WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
3:30:13PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
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