CITY OF TAMPA CRA
THURSDAY, APRIL 13, 2023
9:00 A.M.
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09:03:42AM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:03:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD MORNING.
09:03:46AM THE CITY OF TAMPA COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING IS
09:03:50AM CALLED TO ORDER.
09:03:51AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON HAS THE INNOVATION TODAY.
09:03:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
09:03:57AM ONE OF THE CHURCHES I GO TO IS HYDE PARK UNITED METHODIST.
09:04:03AM YOU MAY KNOW THAT CHURCHES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE
09:04:08AM WORLD HAVE BEEN SHRINKING, BUT HYDE PARK METHODIST CHURCH HAS
09:04:11AM BEEN GROWING.
09:04:12AM SOME OTHER METHODIST CHURCHES HAVE NOT.
09:04:14AM THE FIRST FEW YEARS AGO, THERE WAS THE FIRST METHODIST CHURCH
09:04:19AM DOWNTOWN, A BEAUTIFUL MID-CENTURY BUILDING.
09:04:22AM JENNA WINE WAS THE ARCHITECT.
09:04:26AM THAT BUILDING WAS HANDED OVER TO THE HYDE PARK METHODIST
09:04:29AM CHURCH AND BEEN TAKEN DOWN AT THE TIME AND SOLD OFF
09:04:33AM FOR SOME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT THE MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH
09:04:36AM DECIDED TO TURN IT INTO A SOCIAL ENTERPRISE, AND THE PERSON
09:04:39AM IS JUSTIN DEROSA THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS.
09:04:42AM REVEREND JUSTIN DEROSA IS A MINISTER, A LICENSE CLINICAL WORKER,
09:04:49AM A PRACTITIONER, AUTHOR, AND SPIRITUAL ENTREPRENEUR WHO LEADS
09:04:54AM CHANGE.
09:04:55AM HE IS DIRECTOR AND MINISTER OF THE PORTICO, THE OPERATION OF THE
09:05:57AM OLD CHURCH'S CUTTING-EDGE INITIATIVE IN THE OLDEST CHURCH THAT
09:05:00AM BECAME THE PORTICO.
09:05:05AM IT WAS A SOCIAL ENTERPRISE CAFE, CHAPEL, PLACES TO MEET AND
09:05:11AM WORK FOR THE PUBLIC AND UNCONVENTIONAL CHURCH THAT HELPS WITH
09:05:16AM HOUSING, SECURITY AND ECONOMIC CHALLENGE.
09:05:18AM HE IS ONE OF FOUNDERS OF PORTICO HOUSING SOLUTIONS, INC. AND
09:05:24AM A PART-TIME PRACTICE.
09:05:25AM AND WE WILL STAND, AND JUSTIN WILL DO THE INVOCATION, AND WE
09:05:31AM WILL SAY THE PLEDGE.
09:05:32AM >> THANK YOU AND LET'S PRAY.
09:05:34AM GOD OF MANY NAMES, WE GATHER IN YOUR PRESENCE CENTERING
09:05:38AM OURSELVES ON YOUR GOODNESS.
09:05:39AM WE GATHER WITH OPEN MINDS AND GRATEFUL HEARTS AND OFFER
09:05:43AM THANKS FOR THIS CITY AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.
09:05:46AM THANK YOU FOR THE ENGAGED CITIZENS WHO ARE HERE, THE CITY
09:05:50AM COUNCIL, THE AIDES, ALL THE CITY EMPLOYEES WHO WORK BEHIND
09:05:56AM THE SCENES TO MAKE TAMPA FUNCTION, THRIVE, AND GROW.
09:05:59AM GIVE THEM WISDOM AND HUMILITY IN SERVING.
09:06:03AM WE PRAY FOR THE DOWNTOWN WORKERS AND PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE A
09:06:06AM PLACE TO LAY THEIR HEAD.
09:06:07AM WE PRAY FOR THE CITIZENS WHO WILL ADVOCATE AND INVEST THEIR
09:06:10AM TIME AND TALENT TO BUILD IN INCLUSIVE AND DIVERSE CITY AND
09:06:14AM DEAL WITH THE MANY ISSUES BEFORE US THAT RELATE TO GROWTH
09:06:17AM AND POVERTY.
09:06:18AM THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES SEEK THE WELFARE OF THE CITY AND NEW
09:06:24AM TESTAMENT REMIND US OVER AND OVER AGAIN NOT TO FORGET THE
09:06:28AM NEEDS OF THE POOR.
09:06:28AM THEY ARE BEFORE US.
09:06:29AM KEEP US MINDFUL OF THE PEOPLE AND FAMILIES SPENDING HALF OF
09:06:33AM THEIR WAGES ON HOUSING AND EMPOWER THIS TEAM OF AMAZING
09:06:36AM PEOPLE TO CONSTRUCT A CITY THAT BUILDS ON OUR MANY STRENGTHS
09:06:39AM AND TAKES CARE OF ALL OF ITS RESIDENTS.
09:06:41AM WE ASK THAT YOU PROCEED ASTUTE DISCERNMENT AND CLARITY AND
09:06:46AM DIRECTION TO EACH COUNCILMEMBERS FOR THE MANY ISSUES ON THE
09:06:51AM AGENDA AND ALLOW THEM TO BE RESPECTFUL AMIDST DECISION
09:06:56AM AGREEMENT AND UNITE US IN THE PEOPLE YOU CALLED US TO BE.
09:06:59AM AND I CALL THESE THINGS IN THE NAME OF JESUS, AMEN.
09:07:02AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:07:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
09:07:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE THING -- JUSTIN -- HE TOOK OFF.
09:07:21AM ONE MORE THING ABOUT THE PORTICO REAL FAST.
09:07:24AM ONE OF THE NONPROFITS THAT LEASES FROM THEM IS LOVE, INC.
09:07:29AM THAT HELPS HOMELESS PEOPLE.
09:07:30AM A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, SOMEONE I KNEW WAS A DAY OR TWO AWAY
09:07:34AM FROM BEING HOMELESS, AND GOT IN TOUCH WITH LOVE, INC.
09:07:37AM BECAUSE INVOLVED WITH THE PORTICO AND JUSTICE.
09:07:40AM HE FOUND ME AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT SUPPORTED THIS PERSON AND
09:07:42AM WE DID A GO FUND ME CAMPAIGN TO HELP THE PERSON FIND
09:07:46AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:07:47AM AND IT SHOWS THE -- THE POWER OF CONNECTIVITY AND THE POWER
09:07:52AM OF NONPROFITS THAT HELP PEOPLE, BUT THAT IS ONE STORY --
09:07:56AM MISS CONNIE BURTON IS IN THE AUDIENCE AND OTHERS WHO TALK
09:08:00AM ABOUT THESE ISSUES EVERY WEEK.
09:08:02AM THE PERSON I KNEW WAS HOMELESS HAD A HEALTH ISSUE AND
09:08:06AM COULDN'T WORK ANYMORE.
09:08:08AM WE ARE A HEALTH ISSUE AWAY FROM BEING HOMELESS.
09:08:11AM I ENCOURAGE OTHERS TO GET INVOLVED IN NONPROFITS TO HELP ALL
09:08:14AM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DROPPING THROUGH THE CRACKS AND END UP
09:08:17AM POTENTIALLY IN A HOMELESS SITUATION LIKE THAT.
09:08:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:08:25AM ROLL CALL PLEASE.
09:08:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:08:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:08:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:08:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:08:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:08:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:08:34AM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:08:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:08:37AM MR. MASSEY, I DON'T BELIEVE WE NEED TO DO THIS ANYMORE.
09:08:41AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NO, YOU DON'T.
09:08:42AM YOUR BYLAWS ARE THE SAME AS CITY COUNCIL'S BYLAWS.
09:08:47AM TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT VIA CMT OR VIRTUALLY, WE DON'T HAVE
09:08:52AM TO DO A MOTION ANYMORE.
09:08:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL.
09:08:55AM I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
09:08:57AM LOOK AT THE AGENDA TODAY.
09:09:00AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: BEFORE WE GO TO THE AGENDA, APPROVE THE
09:09:02AM MINUTES.
09:09:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:09:06AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
09:09:08AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:09:09AM OKAY.
09:09:09AM MOTION PASSES.
09:09:15AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS.
09:09:17AM NICOLE TRAVIS, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND INTERIM
09:09:23AM DIRECTOR.
09:09:23AM FOR THE AGENDA.
09:09:24AM WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ITEMS FIVE, SIX AND TEN TOGETHER WHEN
09:09:28AM THE TIME ALLOWS.
09:09:30AM A CONTINUANCE REQUEST FOR ITEMS SEVEN, EIGHT AND NINE TO MAY
09:09:34AM 11, 2023 CRA MEETING PLEASE.
09:09:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
09:09:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
09:09:44AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
09:09:46AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:09:47AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:09:49AM MOTION PASSES.
09:09:49AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S IT FOR YOUR AGENDA, MA'AM.
09:09:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:09:54AM A MOTION APPROVE THE AGENDA A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:09:58AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
09:10:00AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:10:01AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:10:03AM OKAY.
09:10:03AM MOTION PASSES.
09:10:04AM OKAY.
09:10:06AM MR. MURPHY.
09:10:08AM SORRY, PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:10:11AM APOLOGIES.
09:10:13AM SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK TODAY, PLEASE COME UP.
09:10:17AM YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:10:18AM IF YOU WANT TO FORM A LINE.
09:10:20AM ANYONE THIS MORNING?
09:10:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:10:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD MORNING.
09:10:32AM >> HAPPY THURSDAY.
09:10:32AM I AM SALLY LEE WITH THE VOLUNTEER MISSION PENNY FUND.
09:10:41AM AND MY HELP COMES FROM GOD ABOVE, AND THE SCRIPTURE SAYS IF
09:10:49AM YOUR BODY -- IF YOU HAVE SUPPORT, YOU ARE LENDED TO THE LORD
09:10:55AM AND HE WILL REPAY YOU.
09:10:56AM ALSO I GOT A TELEPHONE CALL -- I CALLED ALL OF YOUR
09:11:01AM SECRETARIES YESTERDAY.
09:11:02AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOUR SECRETARY SET A MEET UP FOR US
09:11:11AM ON MONDAY AT 9:00 AT THE CENTER.
09:11:13AM AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU CAN STILL BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.
09:11:17AM LISA EDWARDS.
09:11:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM CHECKING TO SEE IF SHE PUT IT ON
09:11:23AM THE CALENDAR.
09:11:24AM HE WILL MAKE SURE TO GET THERE.
09:11:26AM >> MONDAY AT 9:00.
09:11:28AM DO I NEED TO LEAVE MY PHONE NUMBER OR ANYTHING?
09:11:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER YOU SPEAK I WILL MEET YOU OUTSIDE
09:11:35AM AND GET THE DETAILS AND PUT IT ON THE CALENDAR.
09:11:38AM >> THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING CONSIDERATE FOR THE VOLUNTEERS
09:11:41AM AND EVERYBODY, AGENCIES, AND YOU ALL, PLEASE GIVE US
09:11:47AM CONSIDERATION FOR FUNDING IN WHAT WE NEED.
09:11:49AM THANK YOU.
09:11:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:11:51AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:11:56AM AILEEN HENDERSON.
09:11:58AM 904 WEST FRIDLEY STREET.
09:12:00AM I REALIZE THIS IS A CRA MEETING, BUT WHAT I HAVE TO SAY IS
09:12:03AM RELEVANT TO TODAY'S MEETING AND ALL PUBLIC MEETINGS.
09:12:06AM I WANT TO SHARE MY SINCERE GRATITUDE FOR HAVING A PLATFORM
09:12:10AM FOR CITIZENS TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES.
09:12:12AM MOST IF NOT ALL OF US APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE
09:12:15AM THOUGHTS, IDEAS AND COMMENTS.
09:12:17AM WITH THAT SAID, THERE IS MUCH VALUE TO BE HAD IN THE PUBLIC
09:12:21AM COMMENT PORTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
09:12:23AM THAT VALUE LIES IN THE RECORDING OF HISTORY.
09:12:27AM THAT SAME HISTORY THAT ALLOWED US TO SEARCH TAMPA CITY
09:12:32AM COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES DURING THE SAVE WOODLAWN CEMETERY
09:12:35AM CAMPAIGN AND FIND AUGUST 17, 1900, A SECTION FOR BLACK
09:12:41AM BURIALS WERE COMMISSIONED.
09:12:43AM PUBLIC COMMENTS DO BECOME PUBLIC RECORD.
09:12:45AM ACUTELY AWARE THAT CITY COUNCIL CANNOT ASSIST WITH MEMORIAL
09:12:49AM PARK CEMETERY, THE REALITY IS, WHAT WE ARE DOING IS MAKING
09:12:52AM SURE THAT FUTURE GENERATIONS KNOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS STOOD
09:12:57AM BEFORE CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTING HUNDREDS WITH FAMILIES
09:13:01AM BURIED THERE INCLUDING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS THAT HAVE NO
09:13:05AM VOICE.
09:13:05AM FOR PROSPERITY SAKE, WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT FOR THE RECORD,
09:13:10AM THOSE WHO COME AFTER US WILL KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CARE
09:13:13AM ENOUGH ABOUT TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY TO MAKE A POINT TO STAND
09:13:17AM UP EVERY CHANCE WE GET.
09:13:18AM ALL THE VOICES OF SUPPORT BROUGHT MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY
09:13:22AM INTO THE SPOTLIGHT, FORCING ACTION TO TAKE PLACE, TO SECURE
09:13:26AM IT AND ADD IT TO THE CURRENT REPERTOIRE OF TAMPA'S ALL-WHITE
09:13:30AM HISTORICAL CEMETERIES.
09:13:32AM ITS SIGNIFICANT VALUE SHOULD BE HELD WITH HIGH ESTEEM AS A
09:13:36AM HISTORICAL BLACK CEMETERY WITH THE ONLY BLACK VETERANS
09:13:40AM MONUMENT WITH OVER 850 VETERANS BURIED THERE.
09:13:45AM SO PLEASE KNOW WE GET IT.
09:13:47AM YOU CAN'T HELP THE CEMETERY.
09:13:51AM THIS HISTORICAL BLACK CEMETERY IS PROTECTED FROM
09:13:55AM DEVELOPMENT.
09:13:55AM WE GET IT.
09:13:56AM THAT IS NOT WHY WE ARE HERE.
09:13:58AM WE ARE HERE BECAUSE THIS IS HISTORY IN THE MAKING.
09:14:01AM AND WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED.
09:14:04AM SAVE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:14:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:14:09AM BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:14:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY, I KNOW THIS MORNING WE ARE
09:14:13AM MEETING AT A CRA, BUT CAN THIS BOARD REFER TO CITY COUNCIL TO
09:14:21AM SEE HOW MEMORIAL PARK THE CRITERIA FOR MAKING IT A
09:14:25AM HISTORICAL SITE?
09:14:27AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE -- YOU CAN'T
09:14:29AM REALLY DO THAT IN THE CAPACITY OF THE CRA.
09:14:32AM ANYTHING THAT -- I THINK WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR MEMORIAL
09:14:41AM ABOUT CEMETERY TO BE LANDMARKED.
09:14:44AM THAT IS DONE THROUGH THE CITY'S HISTORIC PROGRAM.
09:14:48AM CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT, IF YOU CAN ASK A MOTION TO HAVE MR.
09:14:53AM FERNANDEZ AND HIS STAFF TO REPORT BACK WHETHER THAT IS PART
09:14:56AM OF HIS PROGRAM OR WHETHER THEY CAN ADD THAT TO THEIR PROGRAM
09:14:59AM TO STUDY THE POTENTIAL OF LANDMARK -- THAT AS A HISTORICAL
09:15:04AM LANDMARK.
09:15:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS TRAVIS, YOU ARE GETTING UP.
09:15:09AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, NICOLE TRAVIS,
09:15:12AM DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
09:15:15AM IT IS ALREADY IN MY PORTFOLIO AND DENNIS FERNANDEZ IS
09:15:21AM ALREADY WORKING ON THAT.
09:15:23AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TONIGHT.
09:15:26AM >> NO, SIR.
09:15:28AM >> I AM HALLE REED.
09:15:30AM NEGOTIATIONS TO BUY BACK MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:15:34AM ALEX ORTEGA WILL ASK FOR A HIGH PRICE AND DO EVERYTHING HE
09:15:38AM CAN TO MAXIMIZE HIS PROFIT.
09:15:41AM THE LAND THAT MEMORIAL CEMETERY SIT ON, A HISTORIC
09:15:46AM CEMETERY.
09:15:46AM ONE THAT HAS NOT BEEN FINANCIALLY VIABLE FOR 20 YEARS.
09:15:51AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY IS FULL.
09:15:53AM NO MORE PLOTS THIS CAN BE SOLD.
09:15:56AM UNDERNEATH THE LARGE PATCHES OF GREEN ARE TIGHTLY PACKED
09:16:02AM LANDMARK GRAVES.
09:16:03AM LAST SUMMER, I MANAGED TO DOCUMENT 15,000 BURIALS.
09:16:07AM WITH THE BURIALS I WAS ABLE TO COUNT, A LARGE GAP IN THE
09:16:11AM RESEARCH I WAS ABLE TO DO.
09:16:12AM SO THE TRUE NUMBER IS CLOSE TO 20,000.
09:16:14AM THE FACT THAT MEMORIAL PARK IS FULL IS WHAT CAUSE IT TO FALL
09:16:19AM INTO NEGLECT AND SEVERE DISREPAIR AND THE SITUATION WE ARE
09:16:23AM IN TODAY.
09:16:23AM WHEN ALEX ORTEGA BOUGHT MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, HE SAID THE NEW
09:16:33AM OWNERS WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR ITS WELL BEING.
09:16:37AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY IS IN NEED OF REPAIR AND RESTORATION
09:16:42AM OF PUTTING A FENCE AROUND IT.
09:16:45AM WITHOUT A FENCE, HOMELESS CAMPS LEAVING BEHIND TRASH,
09:16:49AM DISCARDED BELONGINGS AND DAMAGED HEADSTONES BY CRACKING FOOD
09:16:57AM AGAINST THEM.
09:16:58AM I HAVE BEEN THERE A RATE OF ONCE A MONTH.
09:17:00AM CHICKENS ARE SACRIFICED AT NIGHT AND LEFT THERE TO ROT.
09:17:05AM I SMELLED THE LATEST CHICKEN BEFORE I SAW IT.
09:17:08AM ONE OF THE MOST URGENTLY NEEDED REPAIRS AT MEMORIAL IS
09:17:11AM REPAIR TO THE VERY LARGE HOLE IN THE VAULT OF JONAS LEE
09:17:16AM TILLMAN.
09:17:16AM THE WOODEN CASKET IS CLEARLY VISIBLE TO ANYONE WHO LOOKS
09:17:24AM DOWN IN THERE.
09:17:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST ONE MOMENT.
09:17:26AM I.T., IF YOU CAN SHOW THAT IMAGE, PLEASE, FOR EVERYONE ON
09:17:31AM THE ELMO.
09:17:32AM THE HOLE HAD GOTTEN SIGNIFICANTLY LARGE SINCE I NOTICED IT
09:17:44AM LAST YEAR.
09:17:46AM IN ADDITION, TWO GAPING OPEN SINKHOLES WITH CONSTRUCTION
09:17:51AM BARRICADES.
09:17:52AM ALL IS MORE ALARMING KNOWING THAT MEMORIAL PARK HAS A
09:17:54AM HISTORY OF BONE THEFT.
09:17:55AM IN 2006, THE VAULT BELONGING TO SEVEN-YEAR-OLD STEVIE DALE
09:18:00AM WAS WIDE OPEN AND REMAINS STOLEN.
09:18:05AM TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE REMAINS WERE NEVER RECOVERED.
09:18:07AM TWO OTHER ABOVEGROUND VAULTS THAT WERE SLABS PUSHED TO THE
09:18:12AM SIDE WITH THE CONTENTS VISIBLE INSIDE.
09:18:15AM NUMEROUS BROKEN AND TOPPLED OVER HEADSTONES SUCKING INTO THE
09:18:19AM SOFT GROUND SO MUCH THAT THE NAME IS COVERED UP.
09:18:23AM VAULTS WHY OVERGROWN THAT THE CONCRETE COVERING THEM ARE
09:18:26AM BARELY VISIBLE.
09:18:27AM MEMORIAL'S LOCATION ON MLK AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE WALK
09:18:31AM THROUGH IT DURING THE DAY THAT IT ACCUMULATES TRASH.
09:18:34AM IF MEMORIAL WALLS OWNED BY THE CITY THE FUNERAL SOCIETY CAN
09:18:39AM HAVE A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS TO PICK THIS TRASH UP.
09:18:42AM BECAUSE IT IS OWNED BY ORTEGA, HIS RESPONSIBILITY OF
09:18:48AM REPAIRING THE BROKEN VAULT AND HEADSTONES.
09:18:50AM I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS MR. ORTEGA PERSONALLY.
09:18:54AM THE CITY OF TAMPA MADE A MISTAKE LOSING MEMORIAL AT OPTION
09:18:57AM BUT DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO REMEDY THE MISTAKE.
09:19:00AM BY REFUSING TO SELL MEMORIAL PARK AT A REASONABLY LOW PRICE
09:19:03AM AND TRYING TO MAXIMIZE YOUR PROFIT ON TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY
09:19:09AM AND TRAUMA AND YOU ALIGN YOURSELF WITH SOME OF THE WORST
09:19:14AM PEOPLE IN TAMPA HISTORY.
09:19:15AM IS THIS REALLY WHAT YOU WANT YOUR LEGACY TO BE?
09:19:18AM THANK YOU.
09:19:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:19:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY --
09:19:22AM [APPLAUSE]
09:19:23AM -- HAVE WE SENT A LETTER TO THE NEW OWNERS WITH THE STATE
09:19:27AM LAW CRITERIA MAKING SURE THAT THE CEMETERY IS UPKEEPED.
09:19:33AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE HAD ONE IN-PERSON MEETING AND, HE IS
09:19:38AM AWARE THAT HE IS SUBJECT TO PRESERVATION OF STATE
09:19:42AM CEMETERIES.
09:19:43AM WE WILL HAVE FOLLOW-UP MEETINGS WITH HIM AND WILL EMPHASIZE
09:19:46AM THAT FACT.
09:19:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES?
09:19:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: REGARDING COUNCILMAN -- BOARD MEMBER
09:19:52AM GUDES.
09:19:52AM MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE IT OFFICIALLY DONE.
09:19:55AM I AM NOT SAYING IT WASN'T DONE.
09:19:57AM I AM SURE IT WAS DONE.
09:19:59AM BUT ON THE RECORD IF THIS EVER GOES TO COURT THAT WE ARE
09:20:04AM PUTTING THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OWNER OF THE CEMETERY.
09:20:08AM I SECOND MR. GUDES' MOTION.
09:20:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE IT HERE.
09:20:13AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU CAN MAKE IT AS A CRA BOARD BUT MAKES
09:20:16AM MORE SENSE AS A CITY OF TAMPA BOARD.
09:20:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: C.T., GET THAT READY.
09:20:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:20:27AM I CAME BEFORE LAST WEEK TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:20:29AM ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON 48th STREET.
09:20:34AM NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
09:20:36AM THEY ARE USING THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO WASH CARS.
09:20:41AM NOT A COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:20:44AM A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:20:46AM GO TO 2201.
09:20:51AM OVER THERE THE DIRT BIKES UP AND DOWN 38th STREET.
09:20:58AM CARS ON 48th STREET TAKEN 48 LIKE A RACETRACK.
09:21:02AM AND IT IS SAD.
09:21:05AM AND MR. GUDES, YOU CAME BY THE HOUSE LAST WEEK.
09:21:09AM BUT I WAS HOME.
09:21:10AM YOU COULD HAVE STOPPED AND LET ME KNOW SOMETHING.
09:21:13AM BECAUSE WE TRY TO GET THIS NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE
09:21:20AM THAT RENT, THEY DON'T CARE.
09:21:22AM PEOPLE THAT OWN THEIR HOME LIKE ME HAVE TO PAY PROPERTY TAX.
09:21:28AM AND IT IS NOT RIGHT!
09:21:30AM EVERY YEAR, I HAVE TO PAY BY THE THOUSANDS ON PROPERTY TAX
09:21:36AM AND LET THE RENTERS COME IN AND DO WHAT THEY WANT.
09:21:39AM THEY NEED TO PUT SOME SPEED BUMPS.
09:21:42AM THEY DON'T WANT TO PUT SPEED BUMPS, THEY NEED A THREE-WAY
09:21:46AM STOP SIGN.
09:21:47AM BECAUSE RIDICULOUS HOW THE CARS COME DOWN 48th.
09:21:52AM AND THE DIRT BIKES ON THE WEEKEND, RACING BACK AND FORTH ON
09:21:58AM 48th STREET.
09:21:59AM AND I HAVE BEEN TO -- I HAVE BEEN THERE SINCE 1981 AND I TRY
09:22:06AM TO KEEP IT UP SO PEOPLE WITH A LANDLORD, THEY DON'T CARE.
09:22:13AM AND I WISH YOU ALL WILL HELP US.
09:22:16AM PLEASE, PLEASE, IF I HAVE TO KEEP COMING BACK.
09:22:19AM PLEASE DO THAT FOR ME AND OTHER HOMEOWNERS.
09:22:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:22:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY OFFICE DID SEND A MEMO TO THE
09:22:29AM ADMINISTRATION.
09:22:29AM I AM ONE PERSON.
09:22:31AM I CAN GET IT TO THEM, BUT THEY HAVE TO ACT UPON IT.
09:22:35AM I CAN TALK TO THEM UNTIL I AM BLUE IN THE FACE.
09:22:40AM WE SENT ANOTHER MEMO TO THE ADMINISTRATION ASKING FOR CODE,
09:22:43AM MOBILITY AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET OUT THERE TO
09:22:45AM RE-EVALUATE.
09:22:46AM YOU ARE RIGHT.
09:22:47AM I KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE DOWN THERE.
09:22:49AM C.T. CALLED ME AND I WENT THROUGH THERE.
09:22:52AM AGAIN, WE ALREADY SENT THAT.
09:22:54AM HOPEFULLY AGAIN, WE WILL SEND ANOTHER ONE.
09:22:58AM MISS TRAVIS JUST GOT IT.
09:23:00AM ANOTHER MEMO TO THE ADMINISTRATION TO SEND A TEAM OUT THERE
09:23:04AM TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
09:23:05AM THAT IS ALL I CAN PROMISE YOU UNTIL I LEAVE IN A COUPLE OF
09:23:09AM WEEKS.
09:23:09AM BUT I WILL STILL BE COMING TO THE PODIUM IF THINGS ARE NOT
09:23:12AM LOOKED INTO.
09:23:13AM >> I WANT TO ASK YOU, MR. GUDES, THERE ON -- ON 3201, THEY
09:23:18AM ARE THE ONES THAT KEEP ALL THE COMMERCIAL ON GOING ON.
09:23:22AM DIRT BIKE.
09:23:26AM DIFFERENT GUYS GATHER TO THEIR HOUSE.
09:23:28AM THE MOM DON'T CARE.
09:23:30AM THEY HAVE THE CAR PARKED ALL THE WAY DOWN 48th STREET.
09:23:35AM I WISH YOU WOULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
09:23:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE WILL PUT THAT IN THE MEMO.
09:23:39AM ALL RIGHT.
09:23:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MISS TRAVIS, IF YOU COULD POSSIBLY TALK TO
09:23:43AM HER.
09:23:43AM THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
09:23:45AM THANK YOU.
09:23:46AM >> THANK YOU.
09:23:47AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE A CELL PHONE, PLEASE
09:23:50AM SILENCE IT IN CHAMBERS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
09:23:54AM THANK YOU.
09:23:54AM >> GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD, CHAIR, BOARD MEMBERS, ALISON
09:24:07AM HEWITT, EAST TAMPA RESIDENT.
09:24:09AM I SENT AN E-MAIL TO YOU GUYS EARLY THIS MORNING AS WE GET TO
09:24:15AM THE BUDGET SEASON.
09:24:16AM I JUST WANTED TO BE ABLE TO POINT OUT THAT WE ARE, AGAIN,
09:24:20AM ARE IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA TRYING TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD AND
09:24:24AM GOING TO BE ROLLING OVER SOME DOLLARS.
09:24:26AM MISS TRAVIS AND MR. ALIS DRUMGO HAS BEEN WORKING HARD TO
09:24:36AM TURN THINGS AROUND AND MOVE THINGS FORWARD.
09:24:38AM WE ARE HOPING THAT YOU AGREED WHEN THE CAC CAME BEFORE YOU
09:24:42AM THAT YOU WILL PAY ATTENTION TO THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT
09:24:45AM HAVE BEEN FUNDED AND THE LACK OF PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN
09:24:47AM FUNDED.
09:24:48AM I AM A CONSULTANT IN MY DAY-TO-DAY LIFE.
09:24:51AM I LIVE AND DIE BY THE CONTRACTS THAT GOVERN ME BY MY
09:24:55AM CLIENTS.
09:24:55AM I DID HAVE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE SERVICE AGREEMENT.
09:24:59AM UNDER THE ARTICLE 1, REDEVELOPMENT SERVICES, THE ACTUAL
09:25:03AM ACTIVITIES THAT THE SERVICE AGREEMENTS HAVE A LOT OF PASSIVE
09:25:07AM LANGUAGE AS AN ASSIST IN THERE.
09:25:09AM ONE OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD CHALLENGES WITH IN THE EAST
09:25:13AM TAMPA CRA IS LEGAL AND PURCHASING.
09:25:15AM WE SEND THINGS OVER AND THEY GET STUCK AND BOGGED DOWN.
09:25:20AM AND IF SOMEONE WAS TO BE GOVERNED BY THE LETTER OF THE LAW,
09:25:26AM THEY CAN SAY, WE CAN ASSIST YOU AS SOON AS WE CAN.
09:25:29AM AS NICOLE TRAVIS AND ALIS DRUMGO ARE TRYING TO MOVE THINGS
09:25:33AM FORWARD, IF YOU CAN HELP SUPPORT THEM BY PUTTING FIRE UNDER
09:25:36AM THE ASSIST LANGUAGE.
09:25:38AM THE OTHER SECTION I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN WITH IS THE
09:25:44AM -- ARTICLE 3 -- I MEAN ARTICLE 3, STAFF COMPENSATION.
09:25:49AM THERE IS A LINE IN THERE THAT SAYS THE CRA DIRECTOR WILL
09:25:53AM ENSURE THAT ALL PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES ALIGN WITH THE
09:25:58AM CITY.
09:25:58AM THE CRA'S MISSION AND VISION.
09:26:02AM MY CHALLENGE IS FIRST, TECHNICALLY, ALIGN BY THE STATE
09:26:06AM STATUTE THAT GOVERN STATE STATUTE BEFORE WE DO THE CITY AND
09:26:10AM THE CRA BOARD'S ADMISSION WE ARE IN LINE WITH THE STATE
09:26:13AM STATUTE.
09:26:13AM THEN I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE CRA DIRECTOR PERFORMANCE
09:26:20AM REVIEW.
09:26:20AM CLEARLY OUTLINED WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE VOTE DIDN'T
09:26:25AM HAPPEN.
09:26:25AM AND YOU HAVE A SIX-MONTH PERIOD.
09:26:28AM AND NOT CLEAR WHO SETS THOSE BENCHMARKS, WHAT ARE THEY, WHO
09:26:33AM WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE ACHIEVING THOSE
09:26:36AM GOALS, WHO DRAFTS THAT TO HAVE THAT CLARITY IN THE CONTRACT.
09:26:39AM AND I -- LEGALLY REGRET THAT COMMENTS THAT I TRIED TO MAKE
09:26:46AM TO REPRESENT MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I AM THIRD GENERATION IS
09:26:51AM SEEN AS A DISTRACTION.
09:26:53AM BUT MY WORK AS HARD AS I POSSIBLY CAN IN MY FREE TIME TO
09:26:57AM MAKE SURE THAT I AM REPRESENTING THE AREA THAT I AM A THIRD
09:27:01AM GENERATION FROM AND PLAN ON CONTINUING TO STAY.
09:27:03AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:27:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:27:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: EXCUSE ME, MADAM CHAIR.
09:27:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:27:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS TRAVIS, YOU WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF
09:27:21AM HER COMMENTS?
09:27:22AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NO.
09:27:23AM >> SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHEN TO PULL BACK.
09:27:25AM BUT GOOD MORNING.
09:27:26AM I WANT TO BE IN ALIGNMENT OF THE PRAYER THAT WAS PRESENTED
09:27:29AM THIS MORNING.
09:27:30AM THAT WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE NEEDS OF THE POOR AND IF
09:27:34AM THE CHURCH IS NOT SUCH, AND IF WE ARE NOT SUCH, THEN
09:27:37AM IT CALLS FOR A CRITICAL RE-EXAMINATION OF WHO WE ARE.
09:27:41AM APRIL 4, 1968 REPRESENTS SOMETHING DEAR TO MOST OF US.
09:27:48AM AND THAT WAS THE LOSS OF ONE OF OUR GREATEST LEADERS DR.
09:27:53AM KING.
09:27:54AM AND I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS YOU ON ONE OF DR. KING'S MOST, I
09:27:59AM THINK, BEST SPEECHES WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER AMERICA.
09:28:04AM AND WHEN I HEAR "THE OTHER AMERICA" IT ALIGNS ME WITH THE
09:28:10AM OTHER TAMPA, A TAMPA THAT IS PROSPERING AND ONE THAT IS NOT.
09:28:14AM ONE THAT HAS HAD A CRA -- THE FIRST CRA IN THE STATE OF
09:28:21AM FLORIDA AND IS STILL LANGUISHING IN POVERTY, GENTRIFICATION,
09:28:26AM A LOSS OF HOPE AND GREAT APATHY BECAUSE WE CAN'T MOVE THE
09:28:31AM BAR WHAT WE SEE COMING OUT OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT
09:28:40AM BRILLIANT BLACK PEOPLE ELEVATING THEMSELVES TO WORK WITH THE
09:28:42AM ADMINISTRATION.
09:28:43AM BUT IT IS POWERFUL, BECAUSE IT CAN'T DO WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED
09:28:47AM IT TO DO.
09:28:48AM WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT WE WANT
09:28:52AM OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TO HAVE A WONDERFUL LIVE SUMMER JOB
09:28:56AM EXPERIENCE.
09:28:56AM IT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
09:28:58AM I DON'T BLAME THEM, BUT I BLAME THE ADMINISTRATION.
09:29:01AM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE, DEATH AND LACK OF
09:29:05AM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY WHEN YOU PROVIDE NOTHING.
09:29:09AM WE WANT OUR CHILDREN SIMILAR ALIGNED WITH HOPE.
09:29:14AM WE DO NOT SEE HOPE IN JUST THEM PICKING UP PAPER THE CRA
09:29:20AM BOARD AGREED TO HIRING A 72 YOUNG PEOPLE.
09:29:25AM SCALED BACK TO 36.
09:29:27AM WE WERE NOT ASKING CITY STAFF TO MENTOR THESE CHILDREN, BUT
09:29:31AM WE SAID WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN OUR BUCKET -- ALMOST $20
09:29:35AM MILLION TO AFFORD A CONSULTANT TO DEVELOP THESE YOUNG PEOPLE
09:29:39AM TO UNDERSTAND THE REAL WORLD AT WORK.
09:29:42AM WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING THAT COUNTER WHAT THEY SEE
09:29:45AM THROUGH RAP MUSIC AND ALL THE OTHER FALSE FACADE ON HOW TO
09:29:50AM GET MONEY.
09:29:51AM AND WHAT WE CONSTANTLY GET IS A PUSH BACK FROM THE MAYOR'S
09:29:56AM SURROGATES, WHETHER THEY ARE HERE OR ON THE RADIO SAYING NO.
09:30:00AM BUT WHAT DO WE SEE MOVING FORWARD IS A TURN AROUND IN THIS
09:30:06AM CITY BECAUSE WE ARE BEGINNING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ECONOMIC
09:30:10AM PROSPERITY CAN LOOK FOR ALL.
09:30:12AM IT CAN NOT BE THAT WE ARE WISHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY COULD
09:30:16AM DO BETTER WHEN WE HAVE THE FINANCIAL MEANS FOR IT TO HAPPEN.
09:30:19AM 600,000 DOLLARS BLOSSOMING UP IN EAST TAMPA WHEN WE ARE
09:30:27AM SPECTATORS.
09:30:28AM WE WANT TO SEE A TURN AROUND FOR THAT.
09:30:30AM THANK YOU
09:30:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOUR NAME.
09:30:33AM >> MY NAME, CONNIE BURTON.
09:30:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:30:37AM >> YES, MA'AM.
09:30:38AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:30:45AM MY NAME IS NORENE COPELAND MILLER AT 911 EAST CHELSEA.
09:30:53AM I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO SAY I AM PART OF THE EAST TAMPA
09:30:56AM PARTNERSHIP OF THE CAC.
09:30:59AM I AM A CAC BOARD MEMBER AND I KNOW THAT THE CITY IS WORKING
09:31:05AM -- THERE ARE SOME NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON WITH THE OWNER OF
09:31:08AM THE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:31:10AM BASICALLY MY NUMBER ONE ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS SAVE MEMORIAL
09:31:14AM PARK CEMETERY.
09:31:15AM AND I KNOW A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WHEN WE ASKED -- WE TALKED
09:31:20AM ABOUT SLUM, BLIGHT AND INFRASTRUCTURE, THE CAC BOARD OFFERED
09:31:24AM -- WE WANTED TO AND PUT IN A REQUEST TO PUT A FENCE ON
09:31:30AM THE MLK SIDE AND THE FENCE ON THE 26th STREET SIDE TO CLOSE
09:31:33AM IT IN WITH ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE FOR MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:31:37AM THAT WAS TABLED.
09:31:39AM AND THEN WITH WE REQUESTED AGAIN AND WE FOUND OUT THAT THE
09:31:44AM CITY DIDN'T OWN IT ANYMORE.
09:31:46AM THE BOTTOM LINE HERE, IT IS TIME TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
09:31:50AM I LISTENED TO ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS LAST WEEK SAYING WE
09:31:55AM NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO
09:31:57AM WITH THAT.
09:31:58AM VERY CLEAR WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.
09:32:03AM YOU ARE IN PUBLIC SERVING.
09:32:05AM WE ARE YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
09:32:08AM WE HAVE CITYWIDE, DISTRICT.
09:32:10AM ALL OF YOU WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING WRONG, I EXPECT YOUR
09:32:13AM SUPPORT TO MAKE IT RIGHT.
09:32:14AM NOT SIT UP AND PLAY A BLAME GAME.
09:32:16AM AT THIS POINT IT IS AFTER THE FACT.
09:32:18AM IT HAS HAPPENED.
09:32:19AM IT IS TIME NOW TO FIX IT.
09:32:21AM WE ARE GOING INTO THE FIFTH MONTH.
09:32:23AM I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS FOR TWO YEARS
09:32:28AM BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET A FENCE UP.
09:32:30AM MAYBE NOW THAT PEOPLE SEE THE HISTORICAL VALUE IN THAT
09:32:34AM CEMETERY.
09:32:35AM PEOPLE'S FAMILY MEMBERS ARE THERE.
09:32:37AM WE WILL DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, FOR A
09:32:40AM HISTORICAL BLACK CEMETERY, TO SAVE OUR HISTORY SO PEOPLE
09:32:45AM WILL BE MORE ENGAGED AND INTERESTED IN THOSE SOULS IN THERE.
09:32:48AM A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CONTRIBUTED TO BUILDING THIS GREAT CITY
09:32:51AM AND SOME CALL IT PARADISE.
09:32:53AM AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, BUT WE ARE IN THE LAND OF THE
09:32:57AM FORGOTTEN, THAT'S HOW I AM FEELING RIGHT NOW IN OUR AREA, IN
09:33:01AM THE BELMONT HEIGHTS AREA, THE JACKSON HEIGHTS AREA.
09:33:05AM SO CONVENIENT TO CALL IT EAST TAMPA BECAUSE THAT IS SO BROAD
09:33:08AM AND WE KNOW EAST TAMPA GOES ALL THE WAY TO FALKENBURG.
09:33:12AM BUT THE HISTORICAL THINGS GOING ON IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ARE
09:33:16AM BEING ERASED.
09:33:17AM I CERTAINLY WANT THIS COUNCIL TO DO BETTER AND MAKE IT
09:33:21AM RIGHT.
09:33:21AM BECAUSE LIKE I SAID I WILL COME HERE EVERY WEEK UNTIL
09:33:26AM SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY BUT I THANK
09:33:29AM GOD HE ALLOWED ME TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK TO YOU GUYS AS WELL
09:33:32AM AS THE OWNER SHOULD HAVE A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY.
09:33:34AM WE ALL DO.
09:33:36AM AND I EXPECT YOU ALL TO HOLD UP YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS YOU
09:33:40AM ARE PUBLIC OFFICIALS SERVING THIS CITY OF TAMPA AND WE ARE
09:33:45AM YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
09:33:46AM AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO IS TO BLAME.
09:33:50AM PLEASE FIX IT.
09:33:51AM AND I IMPLORE ALL OF YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
09:33:54AM THANK YOU.
09:33:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:33:55AM >> HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
09:33:57AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:33:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:34:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES.
09:34:07AM I HAVE BEEN AS AN EMPLOYEE AND AS A COUNCILMEMBER.
09:34:14AM WHAT I HAVE SEEN THROUGH MY WHOLE TIME AND TENURE IN THIS
09:34:18AM CITY WITH THIS GOVERNMENT, AND I MAY PROBABLY GET DINGED FOR
09:34:27AM IT AND I AM WALKING OUT THE DOOR BUT DOESN'T MAKE A
09:34:30AM DIFFERENCE.
09:34:31AM INSTITUTIONAL RACISM.
09:34:32AM GOVERNMENTAL RACISM.
09:34:35AM UNTIL YOU ARE ABLE TO WEED OUT THAT, YOU WILL CONTINUE TO
09:34:38AM HAVE THE SAME THING.
09:34:40AM UNTIL PEOPLE HAVE THE MIND SET TO HELP EVERYONE INSTEAD OF
09:34:43AM HELPING A CERTAIN CLASS, YOU WILL HAVE THE SAME THING.
09:34:45AM EAST TAMPA IS A CERTAIN PLACE AND YOU CATEGORIZE IT -- LIKE
09:34:50AM ONE PERSON SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE NOW -- YOU HAVE A
09:34:54AM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, SOUTHERN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
09:34:58AM YOU ARE BREAKING IT UP NOW.
09:35:00AM YOU ARE BREAKING IT UP.
09:35:01AM AND UNTIL YOU HAVE A TEAM -- THE ADMINISTRATION PUTS
09:35:08AM TOGETHER A TEAM.
09:35:09AM MISS TRAVIS AND MR. DRUMGO ARE WORKING THEIR TAILS OFF.
09:35:14AM THEY CAN'T DO IT THEMSELVES.
09:35:16AM THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH SO MANY HOOPS TO GET THINGS DONE.
09:35:19AM THEY HAVE TO FIGHT TOO.
09:35:20AM NOT THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO GET IT DONE.
09:35:22AM THEY GOT IT DONE IN OTHER PLACES.
09:35:25AM BUT THEY NEED PERMISSION OR GUIDANCE TO GET IT DONE.
09:35:29AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TEAM TO MAKE EAST TAMPA CHANGE.
09:35:32AM AND IN MY MIND, MR. CARLSON SAID A LONG TIME AGO, UNTIL THE
09:35:39AM CRA BOARD TAKES CONTROL OF ITS POWER AND GET A TEAM OR THE
09:35:42AM ADMINISTRATION GETS A TEAM STRICTLY FOR EAST TAMPA.
09:35:45AM WE WILL GET THE RESULTS.
09:35:48AM I WILL BE HONEST, YOU WILL GOING TO GET THE SAME RESULTS.
09:35:51AM THOSE TWO FOLKS CAN'T DO IT BY THEMSELVES WITH THE ECONOMIC
09:35:56AM IMPACT THAT THE CITY HAS.
09:35:57AM WE HAVE TO TELL THE TRUTH.
09:35:58AM I TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.
09:36:00AM MY MOUTH GETS ME IN TROUBLE.
09:36:02AM I DON'T CHANGE WHO I AM.
09:36:03AM I AM THE FIELD NEGRO.
09:36:06AM THE HOUSE NEGRO.
09:36:08AM AND WE -- AND IN TAMPA, WE HAVE A LOT -- OUR OWN PEOPLE,
09:36:13AM TIME HOUSE NEGRO THAT HOLD US BACK SOME TIME.
09:36:18AM I SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER.
09:36:19AM HAVE A LOT OF PAWNS.
09:36:22AM WHAT I SAY TO THE COMMUNITY I SAY TO THIS BOARD, LET'S MOVE
09:36:26AM FORWARD.
09:36:26AM LET'S MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN.
09:36:28AM LET'S PUSH THIS NEXT BOARD, WHOEVER IT MAY BE, THIS
09:36:31AM ADMINISTRATION, TO GET A TEAM FOR EAST TAMPA.
09:36:34AM AN ACTUAL TEAM AND SAY, GO OUT AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.
09:36:37AM GIVE THEM HELP.
09:36:38AM MAKE IT HAPPEN.
09:36:39AM BECAUSE MR. McCRAY CAN'T DO IT BY HIMSELF.
09:36:44AM HE HAS LEARNING TO DO HIMSELF.
09:36:45AM I SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER.
09:36:48AM HE WAS BROUGHT HERE TO CALM US DOWN.
09:36:50AM CALM THE BLACK FOLKS DOWN.
09:36:52AM HIS TRAVIS IS HERE AND HAS THE EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE.
09:36:58AM THIS BUSY.
09:37:00AM MR. DRUMGO IS BUSY TOO.
09:37:03AM THEY ARE TRYING THEIR BEST AND THEY NEED HELP AND HOPEFULLY
09:37:06AM IN THE NEAR FUTURE THIS BOARD OR WHOEVER THIS BOARD WILL BE
09:37:10AM WILL GIVE THEM THE HELP THEY DESERVE AND NEED TO MAKE THINGS
09:37:13AM MOVE.
09:37:13AM THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRPERSON.
09:37:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
09:37:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF I CAN JUST ADD TO THAT.
09:37:19AM WE -- WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE SERVICE AGREEMENT
09:37:23AM TODAY.
09:37:24AM WE FOUR YEARS AGO, MORE THAN ANYBODY IN RECENT YEARS, ACCEPT
09:37:28AM RATED THE CRA FROM THE CITY.
09:37:31AM BUT WE WERE NOT GIVEN THE STAFF THAT COULD HELP US IMPLEMENT
09:37:34AM THE THINGS WE NEEDED TO DO.
09:37:35AM WE KEPT ASKING, ASKING.
09:37:37AM WE MADE MOTIONS AND THINGS WEREN'T HAPPENING.
09:37:39AM NOW WE HAVE STAFF THAT ARE MAKING THINGS HAPPEN FINALLY, BUT
09:37:42AM THEY ARE DOING IT PART-TIME.
09:37:45AM HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE PERMANENT STAFF SOON.
09:37:48AM WHEN WE GET TO THE CONTRACT, I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT STAFF.
09:37:51AM BUT THE SAME THING WITH THE CITY.
09:37:53AM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL, I HEAR COMPLAINTS OF EVERY
09:37:57AM DEPARTMENT.
09:37:57AM SYSTEMIC SERVICE ISSUES IN EVERY DEPARTMENT OF THE CITY.
09:38:00AM EVEN IN NICOLE'S DEPARTMENT AND NICOLE IS OUTSTANDING.
09:38:03AM WE HAVE GREAT LEADERS.
09:38:06AM OCEA IS A GREAT LEADER.
09:38:08AM GREAT LEADERS IN DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE HAVE GOT -- YOU ALL
09:38:11AM REMEMBER THE MOVIE "OFFICE SPACE" THEY PUT THE GUY IN THE
09:38:15AM CUBICLE DOWNSTAIRS.
09:38:17AM I SEE THAT HAPPENING ALL THE TIME.
09:38:20AM TAXPAYERS OF THE CITY CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY SOMEBODY IN A
09:38:24AM CUBICLE DOWNSTAIRS.
09:38:25AM WE NEED TO PUSH THE PEOPLE WHO PLAY POLITICS, WE NEED TO GET
09:38:29AM OUT.
09:38:30AM WE DON'T INTO THEY HAD THE DIRTY POLITICS ANYMORE.
09:38:33AM PEOPLE WHO NOD AND DON'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY KEEP
09:38:37AM GETTING PUSHED UP PAUSE THEY DON'T RUFFLE FEATHERS.
09:38:41AM THEY NEED TO BE PUSHED OUT.
09:38:42AM WE NEED PEOPLE WHO GET RESULTS.
09:38:44AM THE CHIEF OF STAFF IN EARNEST HAVE THE METRICS.
09:38:48AM WE NEED TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR METRICS AND MOVE DEAD
09:38:52AM WEIGHT OUT FASTER.
09:38:53AM EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD, EVERY HOMEOWNER THINKS THEIR STREET HAS
09:38:58AM POTHOLES ON IT.
09:38:59AM AND EVERY -- EVERYBODY THINKS THAT ONLY THEIR PARK IS
09:39:02AM FALLING APART OR ONLY CODE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT AFFECTING
09:39:06AM THEIR AREA.
09:39:07AM WE HAVE TO FIX THAT SYSTEMATICALLY.
09:39:10AM WE ARE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE NOW THROUGH THE ELECTIONS, BUT
09:39:14AM IN FOUR YEARS, OUR LEGACIES WILL BE CEMENTED BASED ON WHAT
09:39:20AM WE DID.
09:39:20AM PEOPLE -- YOU HEARD RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE DON'T CARE IF THE
09:39:24AM MAYOR THAT DID IT OR WE DID IT.
09:39:25AM WE ARE ALL BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE SAME THING.
09:39:28AM I ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO WORK WITH US.
09:39:30AM BUT WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGETING TIME.
09:39:32AM BY CHARTER, THE BUDGET IS THE PURVIEW OF COUNCIL.
09:39:35AM BY LAW, THE CRA BUDGET IS APPROVED BY THE CRA BOARD.
09:39:40AM WE HAVE THE CONTROL.
09:39:40AM WE CAN GO THROUGH THE KNIFE AND CUT IT.
09:39:42AM WE CAN CUT OUT THE PEOPLE WITH DIRTY POLITICS.
09:39:45AM CUT OUT THE DEAD WEIGHT.
09:39:48AM IF PEOPLE ARE NOT PERFORMING, HAVE THE CHIEF OF STAFF, AND
09:39:52AM SHOW US WHO IS NOT PERFORMING AND WE WILL CUT THEM OUT OF
09:39:56AM THE BUDGET.
09:39:56AM THAT IS WHERE WE HAVE THE POWER.
09:39:58AM IF WE DON'T DO IT IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, MORE AND MORE
09:40:01AM PEOPLE COMING IN FRONT OF US ASKING WHY AREN'T THINGS
09:40:04AM GETTING DONE
09:40:04AM WE HAVE THE POWER IN THE BUDGET.
09:40:06AM DON'T HAVE EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY, BUT WE HAVE POWER OVER THE
09:40:10AM BUDGET.
09:40:10AM THANK YOU.
09:40:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:40:11AM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
09:40:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:40:15AM I WOULD LIKE TO -- AND I WILL DO IT IN THE CITY COUNCIL
09:40:18AM MEETING.
09:40:19AM I DON'T THINK IT IS A CRA, BUT THE CITY IS DIVIDED INTO FOUR
09:40:24AM QUADRANTS.
09:40:25AM SEND DISTRICTS OF ONE, TWO AND THREE CITY WIDE.
09:40:31AM SO SOMEWHERE THERE IS A BUDGET THAT TELLS YOU HOW MUCH MONEY
09:40:34AM WAS SPENT IN EACH QUADRANT AND WHY IT WAS SPENT AND HOW IT
09:40:39AM WAS SPENT.
09:40:39AM I REMEMBER FROM THE PAST.
09:40:40AM SO NOT TODAY BECAUSE NOW IT IS A CRA BUT CITY COUNCIL WILL
09:40:44AM MAKE A MOTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO GIVE US COLLECTIVELY
09:40:48AM THE FOUR SUMS OF THE DIGITS OF THOSE FOUR DISTRICTS TO FIND
09:40:52AM OUT WHERE THE MONEY WENT, WHERE IT WAS SPENT, AND WHO
09:40:55AM BENEFITED FROM IT.
09:40:56AM I WILL DO THAT TONIGHT.
09:40:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:40:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
09:41:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF I CAN JUST ADD TO THAT.
09:41:02AM IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THE WAY THEY PRESENT IT LAST YEAR, MOST
09:41:05AM OF THE MONEY FROM SOUTH COMPANY FROM STORMWATER PROJECT AND
09:41:09AM PIPES BECAUSE IT ALL HAPPENED TO BE THERE.
09:41:11AM WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS THERE ARE CITYWIDE MOBILITY PLANS,
09:41:15AM CITYWIDE PUBLIC SAFETY PLANS, CITYWIDE PARKS PLANS.
09:41:19AM ALL OF THOSE HAVE TAKEN THREE OR FOUR YEARS AND SHOULD SHOW
09:41:23AM US HOW THINGS ARE BEING SPENT EQUABLY.
09:41:26AM THE PARKS PLAN WILL BE PRESENTED IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND
09:41:28AM SHOW HOW WE CAN EQUABLY SPEND IN EACH QUADRANT AND THE
09:41:35AM OLDEST MOST RUN-DOWN SERVICES AND FACILITIES.
09:41:38AM I AM ALL FOR EQUITY.
09:41:40AM THE ONLY THING I WANT TO BE CAREFUL OF IS THAT THESE BIG
09:41:44AM INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING USED AS INVESTMENTS
09:41:47AM IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
09:41:48AM IN THE SHORT TERM, A BIG PAIN BECAUSE CAN'T DRIVE AROUND AND
09:41:51AM A LACK OF COORDINATION.
09:41:53AM BUT IN THE LONG RUN, IT MIGHT SOLVE FLOODING PROBLEMS OR
09:41:56AM OTHER THINGS.
09:41:57AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS EFFICIENCY IN ALL THE
09:42:02AM DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, STARTING WITH CRA AND EVERYTHING
09:42:05AM ELSE.
09:42:06AM IN THEORY, WE HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL OVER CRA.
09:42:10AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERY SINGLE PERSON IS OPERATING
09:42:13AM EFFECTIVELY AND HOLD THE BUDGET ACCOUNTABLE FOR GETTING
09:42:17AM DELIVERY OF SERVICE EVERYWHERE ELSE.
09:42:19AM THANK YOU.
09:42:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
09:42:21AM WE HAVE ONE PERSON REGISTERED ONLINE.
09:42:24AM ARE THEY ONLINE?
09:42:29AM >>CLERK: MR. RANDOLPH.
09:42:30AM >> YES, GOOD MORNING.
09:42:31AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
09:42:34AM I AM WITH THE WEST TAMPA CAC.
09:42:37AM GOOD MORNING, CITY OF TAMPA.
09:42:39AM GOOD MORNING,CRA.
09:42:41AM TODAY I WANT TO TALK OF A FOLLOW-UP DISCUSSION ON THE WEST
09:42:47AM TAMPA TECHNOLOGY JOB CREATION CENTER.
09:42:52AM AS YOU KNOW, WE TALKED OF THE BUILDING CENTER.
09:42:56AM WE MADE IT TO WEST TAMPA ON E-COMMERCE INITIATIVE.
09:43:02AM THEY ARE PART OF THE TECHNOLOGY INITIATIVE.
09:43:06AM AS YOU KNOW THE SERVICE INDUSTRY AS WE KNOW IT TODAY IS
09:43:09AM GONE.
09:43:09AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO GET A JOB FOR CONSTRUCTION, FORGET IT,
09:43:13AM THEY HAVE APPRENTICE AND THEY CAN COME OUT AND BRING -- SO
09:43:18AM SERVICE INDUSTRY IN THAT RESPECT IS GONE.
09:43:20AM IF YOU ARE TRYING TO GET A JOB IN THE SUPERMARKET, FORGET
09:43:23AM IT.
09:43:23AM MACHINES ARE TAKING OVER.
09:43:25AM THE WEST TAMPA TECHNOLOGY CENTER WAS PUT TOGETHER TO EVEN
09:43:31AM THE PLAYING FIELD.
09:43:34AM THE WEST TAMPA TECHNOLOGY CENTER WILL SEARCH IN TERMS OF
09:43:40AM DOING WEB THREE.
09:43:41AM WEB THREE IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WEB ONE AND WEB TWO TAKEN BY
09:43:47AM FACEBOOK, TIK TOK AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
09:43:49AM NOW IT IS A NEW DAY WEB THREE CAN EVEN THE PLAYING FIELD.
09:43:56AM IN ADDITION TO E-COMMERCIAL, WE WILL BE TEACHING ARTIFICIAL
09:44:00AM INTELLIGENCE INCLUDING CHAT GPT, VIRTUAL REALITY,
09:44:05AM APPLICATIONS RELATED TO GAMES, MOBILE WEB PAGES, ETC.,
09:44:11AM SOCIAL MEDIA AND -- AND EVEN THE DIGITAL DIVIDE.
09:44:16AM THIS INITIATIVE IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE TODAY, WE NEED TO
09:44:23AM PLAN FOR TODAY AND TOMORROW.
09:44:25AM JOBS USED TO BE THERE ARE GONE, QUICK AND FAST.
09:44:29AM THERE IS A CRISIS OUT HERE.
09:44:31AM WE NEED TO DEAL WITH TECHNOLOGY LIKE YESTERDAY.
09:44:34AM THE STRATEGY THAT WEST TAMPA HAS IS TO DO THE DEALS AT THE
09:44:38AM CHEAPEST POSSIBLE PRICE BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED A MILLION
09:44:42AM DOLLARS TO BRING THIS TECHNOLOGY TO THE COMMUNITY.
09:44:44AM I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:44:49AM YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A SECOND.
09:44:52AM YOU HAVE SEEN THE CAC GO UP, COME DOWN AND BACK AGAIN.
09:44:57AM DURING THAT TIME, YOU ALWAYS HAVE BEEN A STAND-UP GUY.
09:45:01AM YOU ALWAYS MADE SURE THAT YOUR POSITION WAS KNOWN.
09:45:04AM SOMEBODY GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THAT.
09:45:07AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.
09:45:09AM IN ADDITION TO THAT, MISS TRAVIS, I WILL BE CALLING YOU SOON
09:45:14AM TO HAVE A CONVERSATION OF CRA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
09:45:18AM ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE NEW THINGS COMING TO THE CRA.
09:45:22AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:45:23AM APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.
09:45:25AM NEXT TIME WE TALK, WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE WEST TAMPA
09:45:30AM HEALTH INITIATIVE.
09:45:31AM HOW WE NEED TO CHANGE THE NARRATIVE WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTH
09:45:34AM IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:45:34AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:45:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:45:36AM OKAY, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE PUBLIC
09:45:41AM COMMENT?
09:45:47AM >> MY NAME IS DANA WILD.
09:45:49AM I STAY IN THE BELMONT HEIGHTS AREA.
09:45:52AM CONNIE BURTON IS MY SISTER -- ONE OF MY SISTERS.
09:45:56AM THE BELMONT HEIGHTS AREA, THE GATOR BUILDING ON THE CORNER,
09:46:01AM THE SENIORS DON'T HAVE NOWHERE TO GO TO SHOP.
09:46:04AM WE HAVE NO KIND OF AMENITY FOR THAT AREA.
09:46:09AM WHEN YOU RIDE THROUGH THAT AREA, ALL YOU SEE IS TRASH AT
09:46:14AM THAT AREA.
09:46:16AM WE TRY TO PICK IT UP, BUT PEOPLE THAT COME THAT DON'T LIVE
09:46:19AM IN THAT AREA DROP THEIR TRASH IN OUR AREA.
09:46:22AM WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THAT.
09:46:24AM WE DEFINITELY NEED JOBS FOR THE YOUNG PEOPLE SO THEY WILL
09:46:28AM KNOW HOW TO LIVE AND WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:46:32AM I GET PISSED OFF WHEN I SEE THAT YOUNG PEOPLE DON'T HAVE NO
09:46:37AM JOBS.
09:46:37AM THE SENIORS NEED HELP.
09:46:39AM I AM IN THE AREA WHERE I AM AT.
09:46:41AM I GO CHECK ON THE SENIORS AROUND ME.
09:46:44AM THE SENIORS NEED HELP.
09:46:47AM NOT JUST A FEW DOLLARS OVER HERE.
09:46:51AM WE ARE TIRED OF THE HORSE AND PONY SHOW.
09:46:54AM WE ARE TIRED OF Y'ALL SAYING YOU ARE GOING TO HELP US AND
09:46:57AM Y'ALL DON'T DO ANYTHING.
09:46:58AM AND WHAT IS REALLY MAKING ME PISSED OFF THAT WE ARE
09:47:03AM SUFFERING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
09:47:04AM THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
09:47:06AM YOU ALL HAVE A GOD-BLESSED DAY.
09:47:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:47:10AM OKAY.
09:47:11AM MR. MURPHY.
09:47:13AM >> SHOWING TO SHOW A POWERPOINT ISSUE.
09:48:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO ON?
09:48:02AM HERE WE GO.
09:48:23AM >>THOMAS MURPHY: GOOD MORNING, I AM THOMAS MURPHY, AND I AM
09:48:29AM SHOWING YOU WHAT IS GOING ON IN CENTRAL PARK.
09:48:32AM WHO IS FAMILIAR WITH WHERE CENTRAL PARK IS.
09:48:34AM BOUNDARIES AND EVERYTHING.
09:48:35AM PERFECT.
09:48:36AM I HAVE HERE WHERE THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES LIE AND WE WILL GO
09:48:39AM UP ON NEBRASKA AND ON I-4 TO ORANGE AND CASS WHERE TAMPA
09:48:45AM PARK APARTMENTS WERE.
09:48:46AM A LOT IS GOING ON DOWN IN THAT AREA BECAUSE A LOT HAS BEEN
09:48:49AM DEMOLISHED IN THE PAST, COUPLE OF DECADES.
09:48:52AM HERE IS WHAT GOOGLE SHOWS AS THAT AREA WHERE CENTRAL PARK
09:48:56AM IS.
09:48:56AM THEY CALL IT SOUTH NEBRASKA.
09:48:58AM A LOT OF FOLKS WHEN I TELL THEM.
09:49:01AM WHERE I VOLUNTEER WITH.
09:49:03AM TELL THEM WHERE IS CENTRAL PARK.
09:49:05AM WHERE THE PROJECTS WERE, CENTRAL PARK VILLAGE AND CENTRAL
09:49:10AM AVENUE.
09:49:10AM THE IDENTITY OF THE AREA HAS BEEN LOST OVER THE YEAR AND
09:49:14AM SURROUNDED BY WELL-KNOWN AREAS LIKE YBOR, CHANNELSIDE,
09:49:17AM DOWNTOWN, AND THE TOP ARROW POINTING TOWARD TAMPA HEIGHTS.
09:49:20AM WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE TODAY.
09:49:22AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN DOWN TO WALK DOWN
09:49:24AM THERE.
09:49:25AM WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE SMALLEST CRA.
09:49:28AM THE BOUNDARIES ARE VERY WALKABLE.
09:49:30AM PUT YOUR SHOES ON.
09:49:31AM I WOULD LOVE TO WALK WITH YOU GUYS OR TAKE MR. LEARN OR
09:49:38AM MISS ODOM HISTORY TOURS.
09:49:40AM SO MUCH TO LEARN.
09:49:41AM I WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE WHAT IS GOING ON.
09:49:43AM ENCORE JOB TRAINING CENTER THAT WAS BUILT AND SAT VACANT.
09:49:48AM THIS WAS MEANT TO HELP POST GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS
09:49:52AM WITH JOB TRAINING AND JOB PLACEMENT.
09:49:53AM TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY WERE ABLE TO GO THERE THROUGH THE
09:49:57AM FOOD SERVICE AGENCY TO GET JOB PLACEMENT AND JOB TRAINING
09:50:00AM HOPEFUL IN YBOR TO HAVE A LOT LESS AS FAR AS TRAVEL TIME
09:50:07AM GOES.
09:50:07AM HERE, A LOT OF NEW BUSINESSES ARE OPENING UP AND VACANT
09:50:11AM BUILDINGS.
09:50:12AM THE DOE JOE OPENED UP AND RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.
09:50:15AM I RECOMMEND CHECKING THIS THAT OUT.
09:50:17AM THIS HAS BEEN A BUILDING VACANT QUITE A WHILE TOO.
09:50:20AM THE LA SETIMA CLUB.
09:50:23AM A PLANT-BASED MENU AND WINE BAR.
09:50:26AM THIS IS INTERESTING AS WELL.
09:50:28AM SO HERE ON THE CORNER OF PALM AND TOLLIVER IS THE PALM
09:50:35AM VILLA HOSTELS.
09:50:38AM ON SALE FOR $1.3 MILLION.
09:50:44AM SOMETHING THE BOARD TO LOOK INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
09:50:48AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PLAGUED WITH POORLY MAINTAINED
09:50:51AM SIDEWALKS.
09:50:51AM I WALK THIS BOUNDARY A LOT BECAUSE SO MUCH GOING ON AND I
09:50:55AM WANT TO KEEP YOU GUYS ABREAST WHAT IS GOING ON AND I ALWAYS
09:50:58AM WANT TO KNOW.
09:50:58AM HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME OF THE SIDEWALKS.
09:51:00AM THE WALKABILITY THROUGHOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS IS
09:51:04AM COMMON THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE AREA.
09:51:05AM ALSO SECTIONS OF THE CRA IN NEED OF REGULAR MAINTENANCE AND
09:51:10AM LITTER CLEANUP.
09:51:11AM A COMMON SIGHT TO SEE MOVING ON THERE.
09:51:15AM PRIMARILY THE OVERPASSES.
09:51:17AM HOUSELESS FOLKS WILL BAG THE GARBAGE UP AND SET IT ON THE
09:51:21AM SIDE BUT NOWHERE FOR IT TO GO.
09:51:23AM MATTRESSES ARE THROWN OUT THERE.
09:51:25AM GARBAGE IS BROKEN TOO.
09:51:27AM COUCHES ARE LEFT UNDER THE OVERPASSES.
09:51:30AM HERE IS ONE AREA I THINK IS VERY INTERESTING.
09:51:32AM IF YOU ARE GOING DOWN CENTRAL AND YOU WALK UNDER THE
09:51:36AM OVERPASS.
09:51:36AM THE LEFT-HAND SIDE WHERE THE GATE IS, HENDERSON AVENUE THAT
09:51:40AM IS BLOCKED OFF FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
09:51:42AM THE RESEARCH I HAVE DONE THAT THE DEVELOPERS WILL REOPEN
09:51:45AM THAT EXCEPTION AND WE WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE SMOOTHER
09:51:48AM WALKABILITY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:51:50AM IN THE SAME BREATH, OVERPASSES IS POORLY LIT.
09:51:56AM CUT OFF BY I-4 AND 275.
09:52:00AM TO GO FROM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE NEXT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT,
09:52:04AM OVER ONE OF THE OVERPASSES.
09:52:06AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WALKED DOWN THERE, BUT NOT A PRETTY
09:52:10AM SIGHT.
09:52:10AM CONNECTION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY NEED TO BE SAFER
09:52:15AM WALKWAYS.
09:52:16AM WHAT IS BEING DONE IN YBOR TO VERY PRESENT THAT.
09:52:20AM WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL IF WE ARE OPENING UP
09:52:23AM HENDERSON AVENUE TO CREATE MORE WALKABILITY.
09:52:26AM AT NIGHTTIME, NOT WELL LIT AND I DON'T LIKE DOWN THERE AT
09:52:31AM NIGHT.
09:52:31AM WHAT WITH AS THERE IN THE PAST?
09:52:32AM A BRIEF HISTORY ON THERE.
09:52:34AM WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN CENTRAL PARK IN THE 1860s WHEN FREED
09:52:39AM SLAVES WERE ABLE TO OCCUPY THE TERRITORY.
09:52:41AM MULTIGENERATIONAL FAMILIES WOULD LIVE IN THE HOMES WITH NO
09:52:45AM PLUMBING AND HAD COMMUNITY OUTHOUSES.
09:52:47AM WHAT THE AREA LOOKED LIKE BACK IN THE TURN OF CENTURY.
09:52:50AM YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACKGROUND, MEACHAM HIGH SCHOOL.
09:52:55AM SO THAT SHOWS THE DIRT ROADS.
09:52:57AM THIS RIGHT HERE IS THE ST. JAMES CHURCH THE ONLY BUILDING
09:53:02AM SALVAGED WHEN CENTRAL PARK VILLAGE WAS TORN DOWN.
09:53:06AM YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDINGS.
09:53:08AM THIS HISTORY IS AMAZING.
09:53:09AM HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WAS ONCE DOWN THERE, THE PERIOD
09:53:14AM MID HOTEL ON THE 1000 BLOCK.
09:53:18AM AND THE LADIES OF THE DINING.
09:53:21AM AND COMMUNITY CAME UP TO BE SOMETHING WHEN THE OPENING OF
09:53:24AM CENTRAL PARK VILLAGE IN 1954.
09:53:27AM THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE.
09:53:28AM UNTIL JUNE 11, 1967 AT 6:25 P.M. WHEN MARTIN
09:53:38AM CHAMBERS WAS A 19-YEAR-OLD SHOT IN THE BACK BY A POLICE
09:53:42AM OFFICER AND THREE DAYS OF RIOTING AND BURNING OF LOTS OF
09:53:45AM BUSINESSES HAPPENED.
09:53:46AM THIS IS WHAT CENTRAL PARK LOOKED LIKE AFTER THOSE RIOTS.
09:53:49AM A LOT OF THOSE BUSINESSES WERE LOST.
09:53:51AM THE NATIONAL GUARD WAS CALLED IN.
09:53:53AM ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A BUILDING ONCE THERE WAS MEACHAM HIGH
09:54:01AM SCHOOL.
09:54:01AM THIS WAS A SCHOOL THAT INITIALLY THE CRA WAS PROMISING, I
09:54:06AM BELIEVE -- THE SCHOOL BOARD WAS PROMISING TO REBUILD THIS.
09:54:09AM THE SCHOOL IS STILL NOT BEING REBUILT.
09:54:11AM 20-PLUS YEARS.
09:54:12AM I KNOW THAT THE FAMILY WAS REALLY -- THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIG
09:54:15AM FACTORS FOR THEM THEY WERE OKAY WITH LETTING THAT GO BECAUSE
09:54:18AM PROMISED THAT THE SCHOOL WOULD BE REBUILT.
09:54:20AM MEACHAM GARDEN IS ON THE SITE THAT THE SCHOOL IS SUPPOSED TO
09:54:25AM BE BUILT BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING OF THE SCHOOL BEING
09:54:27AM BROUGHT BACK.
09:54:28AM AN AERIAL VIEW TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHEN CENTRAL PARK VILLAGE
09:54:32AM WAS DEMOLISHED.
09:54:33AM THE BLUE ARROWS OF PASTOR FRANK'S PARADISE CHURCH WHICH IS
09:54:39AM NOW PINK.
09:54:41AM AND ON THE SECOND WHERE THE ST. JAMES CHURCH STANDS.
09:54:45AM PARADISE CHURCH STANDS.
09:54:49AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU WENT TO SEE THE MUSEUM.
09:54:54AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE BEEN TO THAT BASEMENT.
09:54:58AM THE AMOUNT OF ARTICLE THAT PASTOR FRANK HAS IS FANTASTIC.
09:55:03AM IT IS SAD.
09:55:04AM DOOR IS KNOCKED IN.
09:55:06AM ROW CENTS GOING IN THERE.
09:55:07AM THE ENTIRE PLACE SMELL LIKE RAT FECES RAT URINE, THESE
09:55:15AM PIECES OF HISTORY ARE BEING COMPLETELY RUINED AND NO
09:55:19AM MAINTENANCE BEING DONE AND BREAKS MY HEART.
09:55:21AM IT REALLY DOES.
09:55:22AM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE ST. JAMES CHURCH SLATED TO BE AN
09:55:27AM AFRICAN-AMERICAN HISTORY MUSEUM.
09:55:30AM SO LIKE I SAID, IS ONE OF THE ONLY BUILDINGS SAVED AS THEY
09:55:35AM TORN DOWN CENTRAL PARK VILLAGE.
09:55:37AM ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF TWO OF THE ONLY ORIGINAL REMAINING SCRUB
09:55:41AM HOMES IN EAST SCOTT STREET.
09:55:42AM RECENTLY PURCHASED BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
09:55:44AM I ACTUALLY HAD A CHANCE TO GO INSIDE ALL OF THEM.
09:55:48AM AND THEY ARE NOT THAT BAD.
09:55:50AM REALLY AREN'T.
09:55:50AM I THINK BOTH OF THEM CAN DEFINITELY BE SAVED.
09:55:53AM AND LIKE I SAID, JUST ONE PART OF THE HISTORY THAT IS STILL
09:55:58AM REMAINING.
09:55:59AM EXAMPLE OF NEW CONSTRUCTION.
09:56:01AM NEW APARTMENTS BEING BUILT ON HARRISON AND CENTRAL.
09:56:05AM THIS WILL BE GONE GOVERNOR.
09:56:07AM ALSO TO UPDATE YOU, TAMPA PARK APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET
09:56:13AM ON NEBRASKA IS BEING DEMOLISHED TO MAKE WAY FOR THE GASWORX
09:56:19AM PROJECT.
09:56:19AM BUILDINGS ON THE RIGHT AND THE NEW CONSTRUCTION ON THE LEFT
09:56:23AM PROMISING TO BE DELIVERED BY 2024 YOU CAN SEE THIS.
09:56:27AM I HAD TO REACH OVER WITH MY CONTROL PHONE OVER THE
09:56:30AM CHAIN-LINK FENCE TO GIVE YOU A GOOD SHOT.
09:56:33AM PERRY HARVEY PARK.
09:56:35AM WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE CR A THE CITY DID IN 2006, THIS
09:56:39AM AREA WAS SLATED TO BE A BAND SHELTER.
09:56:41AM YOU CAN SEE WHERE THEY DROPPED THE CONCRETE AND NOTHING HAS
09:56:45AM MADE ITS WAY SINCE THEN.
09:56:47AM AND SPEAKING WITH A LOT OF RESIDENTS ONE THING THEY ARE
09:56:51AM STILL HOPING THAT THAT PROMISE WILL BE KEPT UP ON THERE.
09:56:53AM HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE GRAFFITI AND VANDALISM
09:56:58AM THAT HAS BEEN DONE SO SOME OF THE MURALS ON PERRY HARVEY
09:57:06AM PARK.
09:57:06AM THE FOLKS WHO MADE THE MURALS, WHO KNOW IF THEY WILL BE ABLE
09:57:10AM TO REPLACE THAT.
09:57:11AM WITHIN WEEKS OF THE PARK OPENING UP THAT PEOPLE WERE ALREADY
09:57:14AM VANDALIZING A LOT OF THIS HISTORY.
09:57:16AM YOU CAN SEE MORE OF THE GRAFFITI ON THE PARK.
09:57:19AM RIGHT HERE THE FOUNTAINS WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GOING
09:57:22AM WITH THE MUSIC ON CASS STREET.
09:57:24AM THIS HAVEN'T BEEN ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME EITHER.
09:57:27AM SO WHAT IS NEXT?
09:57:31AM SO THE GAS WOKS CANVAS CITY TOWN HOMES ARE SLATED TO BE
09:57:35AM BUILT HERE.
09:57:35AM THEY ARE GOING TO RANGE FROM 2100 TO 2400 SQUARE FEET AT A
09:57:41AM PRICE OF $705,000 TO $775,000.
09:57:45AM A FAR CRY OF THE HUMBLE BEGINNINGS.
09:57:49AM MORE EXAMPLES OF THE SAME RENDERING FOR THESE.
09:57:52AM ANOTHER FROM A MIAMI-BASED DEVELOPER HAVE IT SLATED FOR 369
09:57:58AM LUXURY APARTMENTS WITH 178 IF KEY HOTEL.
09:58:01AM 330,000 FEET OF RETAIL SPACE AND A LARGE PARKING PODIUM.
09:58:09AM IS COMING IN AS WELL.
09:58:10AM THIS ONE, THEY ARE HOPING TO HAVE GROCERY AT SOME POINT.
09:58:14AM SOME MORE RENDERINGS WHAT IS TO COME.
09:58:20AM RENDERINGS OF THE VACANT LOT AND WHAT IS GOING TO BE GOING
09:58:25AM IN THAT SPACE.
09:58:26AM HERE IS THE WHAT WAS PURCHASED BY THE PATEL FAMILY
09:58:30AM FOUNDATION.
09:58:31AM THIS IS GOING TO BE MICROUNITS, MIXED USE LUXURY APARTMENT,
09:58:35AM MIXED USE APARTMENT, MARKET UNITS AND RETAIL SPACE.
09:58:39AM AND THEN LASTLY, THIS IS THE -- THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT
09:58:44AM I HAD MENTIONED OF CONNECTING HARRISON STREET RIGHT THERE.
09:58:47AM THIS IS BUILT ON THE OTHER SIDE RIGHT BY WHERE GTE IS, ON
09:58:51AM THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT.
09:58:52AM SO WE HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF -- NOT A LOT OF MONEY IN THE
09:58:56AM BUDGET FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING
09:58:59AM ON.
09:59:00AM NOW SO MUCH ACTIVITY GOING ON.
09:59:01AM SO MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS COMING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:59:04AM THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CAC AND THE CRA TO LISTEN TO
09:59:10AM IT THE COMMUNITY.
09:59:10AM ASK WHAT DO YOU WANT TO BE PUT IN HERE.
09:59:12AM HOW DO YOU WANT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE REMEMBERED.
09:59:15AM AND NOW WE HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO IT.
09:59:17AM HOPEFULLY OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WITH IT BEING UPCOMING,
09:59:23AM REWRITTEN, WILL BE ABLE TO INCLUDE A LOT OF THOSE.
09:59:25AM ANY QUESTIONS?
09:59:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
09:59:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CRA DIRECTOR FOR CENTRAL, WHAT ARE WE DOING
09:59:37AM WITH PARADISE?
09:59:38AM ARE WE TALKING TO PASTOR FRANK AND HIS DAUGHTERS?
09:59:43AM >> PASTOR FRANK'S DAUGHTERS I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH.
09:59:46AM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
09:59:47AM PASTOR FRANK MAY HAVE SIGNED SOME NEW MEMBERS ON TO THE
09:59:53AM CORPORATION OR THE LL PASS DICE IS OWNED BY IN THE LAST
10:00:01AM COUPLE OF YEARS.
10:00:01AM I DON'T KNOW IF HE IS TRYING TO MAKE A DEAL WITH THEM.
10:00:03AM BUT THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN HIS DAUGHTERS AND MYSELF HAVE
10:00:06AM BEEN FAIRLY MINIMAL.
10:00:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT ABOUT STAFF.
10:00:09AM STAFF.
10:00:11AM >>JEFF BURTON: JEFF BURTON, CRA MANAGER.
10:00:21AM AT THIS TIME THE TITLE IS CLOUDED BECAUSE OF THOSE
10:00:24AM ADDITIONAL MEMBERS.
10:00:25AM AND IT IS A POINT WHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A CONVERSATION
10:00:30AM WITH ALL OF THEM, THAT PROPERTY IS TIED UP.
10:00:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.
10:00:37AM SO BEFOREHAND WHEN MR. FRANK WAS COMING.
10:00:41AM NOBODY ON THIS.
10:00:42AM ALL OF A SUDDEN, PEOPLE ARE ON THIS TITLE NOW?
10:00:46AM >>JEFF BURTON: THAT IS THE CASE, YES.
10:00:47AM THEY ARE ON THE BOARD.
10:00:50AM AND THE BOARD HAS THE TITLE.
10:00:52AM SO THEY ARE ON THE TITLE.
10:00:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN'T SAY WE DIDN'T TRY.
10:00:59AM WE WENT DOWN IN THE BEGINNING.
10:01:01AM I WILL BE GONE, BUT WE TRIED TO GET THAT --
10:01:05AM >>JEFF BURTON: I AM STILL TRYING, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:01:09AM I AM IN CONTACT WITH HIS FAMILY MEMBERS.
10:01:11AM A MATTER OF TRUST.
10:01:12AM I CAN TELL YOU FOR A FACT, IT IS ABOUT TRUST.
10:01:14AM AND I KNOW THAT PASTOR FRANK AND THE RELATIONSHIP -- IT HAS
10:01:19AM TAKEN A LONG TIME TO GAIN THAT TRUST AND FOR HIS DAUGHTERS
10:01:23AM TO GAIN THE TRUST AS WELL.
10:01:24AM I KNOW WHEN I SPOKE TO HIM ABOUT ST. JAMES BEING POTENTIAL
10:01:31AM MUSEUM.
10:01:32AM HE DIDN'T WANT THE ITEM TO GO IN THERE BECAUSE HE FEELS
10:01:36AM SLIGHTED.
10:01:36AM THAT IS WHERE IT IS AT.
10:01:38AM THE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIS FAMILY WERE AMBIGUOUS WHETHER
10:01:42AM SOMEBODY ELSE BOUGHT IT.
10:01:43AM IF THEY KERR WANTED TO SELL IT.
10:01:46AM A BIT OF A RUN AROUND.
10:01:48AM WE LOOKED UP THE TITLE AND THAT'S --
10:01:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GLAD YOU GOT INVOLVED, BUT I WAS
10:01:54AM HOPING THAT STAFF WOULD BE INVOLVED IN HANDLING THAT
10:01:57AM BUSINESS.
10:01:57AM >>JEFF BURTON: COUNCILMAN GUDES, TRUST ME -- TRUST ME, I AM TRYING
10:02:02AM TO DO A LOT.
10:02:02AM AS A VOLUNTEER.
10:02:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ENOUGH SAID.
10:02:06AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: IF I MAY.
10:02:08AM DEPUTY ADMINSTRATOR ALIS DRUMGO.
10:02:11AM FOR THE RECORD, COUNCILMAN, I MET WITH PASTOR WILLIAMS AS
10:02:15AM WELL.
10:02:15AM AND WE HAD THIS ENTIRE CONVERSATION WITH THE TITLE.
10:02:18AM HIS DAUGHTERS FOLLOWING UP.
10:02:19AM THERE ARE ISSUES.
10:02:20AM WE HAD THIS COMMUNICATION.
10:02:21AM IT DOES NOT HELP US TO HAVE VOLUNTEER MEMBERS GOING BACK AND
10:02:25AM ATTEMPTING TO NEGOTIATE THIS STUFF.
10:02:27AM I RESPECT THE CACS FOR ALL THE WORK THEY DO, BUT WHEN STAFF
10:02:31AM ARE TRYING TO WORK ON ITEMS.
10:02:33AM IT CREATES THAT LEVEL OF CONFLICT.
10:02:34AM IF THERE ARE SOME DIRECTION THEY WOULD LIKE STAFF TO TAKE,
10:02:37AM THEY NEED TO RUN IT THROUGH THEIR CRA MANAGER TO FOLLOW UP
10:02:41AM AND TAKE THAT ACTION.
10:02:42AM WHATEVER IT INFORMATION IS DISCOVERED, WHATEVER INFORMATION
10:02:45AM WE CAN BRING BACK AND MEET WITH OUR ATTORNEYS TO DISCUSS,
10:02:48AM THAT IS PERTINENT INFORMATION AND WE CAN TRY TO WORK THROUGH
10:02:51AM THESE -- THESE ARE PRIVATE LAND MATTERS, RIGHT.
10:02:54AM SO I DO, WITH RESPECT TO THE EFFORTS AND THE PRESENTATION
10:02:58AM TODAY, WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH STAFF AND GO
10:03:01AM OVER WHERE WE ARE AND TO DISCUSS THESE THINGS.
10:03:04AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WOULD HOPE WE DO THAT BECAUSE ME GOING
10:03:07AM AND VISITING -- AGAIN, MY GODBROTHER PASSED AWAY.
10:03:15AM USED TO BE ADAMS TEMPLE.
10:03:18AM MY BROTHER WAS UTILIZING THAT CHURCH.
10:03:20AM I KNOW THE HISTORY OF THAT CHURCH.
10:03:22AM BUT WHEN I GO INSIDE THAT CHURCH AND I SEE THE REAL HISTORY
10:03:26AM OF WHAT PASTOR FRANK HAS IN THAT CHURCH, IT IS LIKE, WHY IS
10:03:31AM THIS STUFF NOT SOMEWHERE TO BE PRESERVED FOR BLACK HISTORY,
10:03:36AM BLACK CULTURE.
10:03:37AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS STUFF, IT IS, LIKE, AMAZING.
10:03:40AM AND YOU ARE RIGHT, I WOULD HATE FOR THE STUFF TO KEEP BEING
10:03:44AM DESTROYED AND DETERIORATE BECAUSE OF MILDEW, MOLD.
10:03:47AM THIS STUFF -- I MEAN, THIS STUFF IS OUTSTANDING.
10:03:51AM I WANTED TO STAFF TO MAKE SURE WE WERE AGGRESSIVE.
10:03:55AM AND I UNDERSTAND YOU WERE TRYING TO HELP OUT, BUT AGAIN LIKE
10:03:59AM WHAT MR. DRUMGO SAYS REVISIT THAT AND GET WITH THE BOARD --
10:04:04AM AND THE PASTOR.
10:04:04AM GET A MEETING WITH THE BOARD.
10:04:06AM PASTOR FRANK IS ELDERLY NOW AND GET WITH THE BOARD AND
10:04:10AM PASTOR FRANK AND MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE DO IS RIGHT.
10:04:14AM I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY HE DOESN'T TRUST.
10:04:19AM I AM HOPING THAT MR. DRUMGO, YOU AND STAFF WILL GET A
10:04:23AM MEETING OF THE BOARD WITH THE LCC.
10:04:25AM I KNOW YOU WORK HARD.
10:04:27AM I CAN SEE IT FRUSTRATING TO YOU.
10:04:29AM BUT, AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND SOMETHING WE
10:04:33AM ASKED STAFF TO BE AGGRESSIVE ON.
10:04:35AM >> I DO APOLOGIZE.
10:04:37AM NO WAY WAS I TRYING TO INTERFERE.
10:04:39AM I WAS DOING MY BEST TO GET NEIGHBORS TO GET THEIR CONTACT
10:04:43AM INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH JEFF AND ANYONE.
10:04:45AM IN NO WAY TO BE IN MENACE OR A PEST.
10:04:49AM WHEN WE ARE NOT HEARING ANYTHING, IT IS -- I BASICALLY -- IN
10:04:53AM AN EFFORT I SAID, HEY, THIS IS OUR LAST -- I AM NOT GOING TO
10:04:57AM KEEP BUGGING YOU ABOUT THIS.
10:04:59AM THAT IS WHERE IT WAS COMING FROM.
10:05:01AM ONLY THE ABSOLUTE BEST.
10:05:02AM I WANT THIS SO, SO, SO MUCH FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
10:05:06AM I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT AS WELL IF I CAME -- IF THAT CAME
10:05:09AM ACROSS AS ME TRYING TO INTERFERE BY ANY STRETCH OF THE
10:05:12AM MEANS.
10:05:12AM THAT IS THE FURTHEST THING I WANT TO DO.
10:05:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:05:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: ON THAT POINT, COULD I -- I WON'T MAKE A
10:05:23AM MOTION, BUT CAN WE JUST ASK STAFF TO WORK WITH BOARD MEMBER
10:05:27AM GUDES.
10:05:28AM HE HAS, LIKE, TWO WEEKS.
10:05:31AM AND THESE THINGS SEEM TO TAKE A LONG TIME.
10:05:34AM I KNOW THAT YOU ALL PUSH HARD, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT WE --
10:05:39AM BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE EXPERIENCE AND BACKGROUND
10:05:42AM RELATIONSHIPS THAT BOARD MEMBER GUDES HAS, THAT STAFF COULD
10:05:46AM INCLUDE HIM IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO TO MEET WITH EVERYBODY
10:05:48AM AND TRY TO NEGOTIATE SOMETHING AND PRESENT BACK.
10:05:51AM THE SECOND THING -- AND IT IS THE SAME ISSUE WITH THE
10:05:55AM JACKSON HOUSE, BY THE WAY.
10:05:57AM YOU KNOW, I WAS -- I WAS WITH A GROUP IN 2013, I THINK IT WAS,
10:06:01AM AND WE WERE TALKING TO WILLIE ROBINSON AND ALL THE SAME
10:06:05AM CONCERNS AND WORKING WITH FAMILY AND EVERYTHING.
10:06:06AM ENDED UP IN A FOUNDATION, WHICH -- IN MY BEEN IT HAVEN'T
10:06:11AM DONE VERY MUCH.
10:06:11AM THEY DON'T ALLOW THE CITY TO DO ANYTHING TO FIX IT.
10:06:15AM AND BESIDES LOOKING AT EMINENT DOMAIN FOR THE LAND AROUND
10:06:19AM IT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT EMINENT DOMAIN FOR THE BUILDING
10:06:23AM ITSELF.
10:06:24AM I KNOW USF AND THE HISTORY CENTER HAVE BEEN INVOLVED.
10:06:27AM JEFF VINIK'S PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND THE REPUTATION OF
10:06:33AM THE COMMUNITY THAT THE FOUNDATION DOESN'T WANT TO DO
10:06:34AM ANYTHING TO SAVE IT.
10:06:35AM AND WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SAVE THAT BUILDING.
10:06:38AM WITH EVERYBODY WATCHING, IF IT GETS TORCH DOWN, I WILL MAKE
10:06:43AM SURE THAT IT IS REBUILT IN THE SAME PLACE SO NOBODY WILL
10:06:46AM EXPECT IT TO FALL DOWN AND DEVELOPMENT THE LAND.
10:06:49AM WE NEED TO SAVE HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND YOU SHOWED OTHERS
10:06:52AM THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT.
10:06:53AM I WOULD LIKE TO -- IN MY AIDE ANDREW IS WATCHING, HE CAN GET
10:06:59AM YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION AND SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND TALK TO
10:07:02AM YOU ABOUT SOME OF THESE OTHER PROPERTIES.
10:07:03AM I KNOW ONE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO DOMINATE ONE THIS AND A
10:07:07AM PROPOSAL TO PUT BASEBALL JUST NORTH OF THIS DISTRICT.
10:07:12AM IF THAT -- IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT PROPOSAL IS OFF THE TABLE.
10:07:15AM SO IF IT IS, THAT OPENS UP A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY.
10:07:18AM THE MONEY WAS NEVER COMMITTED TO THAT, BUT AT LEAST IT TAKES
10:07:22AM THAT OFF THE TABLE AND THE NEGOTIATION PROCESS TO FIGURE OUT
10:07:25AM WHAT TO DO.
10:07:26AM I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN SOME OF THE HISTORY AND
10:07:29AM CULTURE THERE SO THAT IT TELLS THE STORIES TO FUTURE
10:07:33AM GENERATIONS.
10:07:33AM THANK YOU.
10:07:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:07:36AM >>THOMAS MURPHY: THANKS, GUYS.
10:07:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:07:41AM AND MY AID, KELLY -- SIR?
10:07:45AM OKAY.
10:07:45AM OKAY.
10:07:47AM NEXT.
10:07:52AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: HELLO, AGAIN.
10:07:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HELLO.
10:07:54AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ITEM NUMBER 2, WE HAVE CHRISTINE HERE TO
10:08:00AM REPORT ON THE PROPOSAL TO REBRICK 7th AVENUE.
10:08:02AM SHE IS WITH WSP AND SHE HAS A POWERPOINT.
10:08:07AM I WANT TO APOLOGIZE THAT THE POWERPOINT YOU JUST SAW WAS NOT
10:08:11AM COMMITTED AND I NEED FOR THE CLERK TO HAVE A COPE OF IT FOR
10:08:13AM THE RECORD.
10:08:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS ONE I DON'T BELIEVE WAS SUBMITTED
10:08:17AM EITHER.
10:08:18AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IT WAS.
10:08:19AM IT IS ON HERE.
10:08:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, GREAT.
10:08:22AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: CAN WE GET THE POWERPOINT, PLEASE?
10:08:27AM THANK YOU.
10:08:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARSON.
10:08:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: WAS WSP HIRED BY THE CRA.
10:08:42AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
10:08:44AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:08:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD MORNING.
10:08:46AM >> EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO TALK OF THE 7th AVENUE
10:08:50AM -- IS THERE -- THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.
10:08:52AM 7th AVENUE REBRICKING FEASIBILITY STUDY DONE FOR THE
10:08:58AM YBOR CRA.
10:08:58AM IF I CAN GET THIS TO WORK.
10:09:00AM THE YBOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE, CAC PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OF
10:09:05AM TAMPA MOBILITY.
10:09:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GIVIOUS YOUR NAME.
10:09:08AM >> CHRISTINE FANCI WITH WSP CONSULTING.
10:09:14AM THE YBOR CITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY OF
10:09:19AM TAMPA MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO INVESTIGATE THE COST OF
10:09:21AM REBRICKING 7th AVENUE.
10:09:22AM THIS IS ONE OF THEIR COMMUNITY PRIORITY ACTIONS FOR THE
10:09:25AM VISION 2020 PLAN FROM NICK NUCCIO PARKWAY TO 26th STREET.
10:09:29AM THE STAKEHOLDERS WE WORKED WITH WERE THE CAC, OF COURSE.
10:09:33AM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
10:09:35AM THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION DOWN IN YBOR.
10:09:40AM JUST TALKING YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS, THIS REPORT IS THE
10:09:44AM FIRST INITIAL STEP IN A LONG PROCESS TO GET THE REBRICKING
10:09:48AM COMPLETED.
10:09:48AM SO JUST GOING THROUGH.
10:09:50AM WE ARE GOING TO FINALIZE THE REPORT THIS MONTH AFTER
10:09:52AM SPEAKING WITH YOU.
10:09:53AM THE CAC WILL PROGRAM FUNDS ESPECIALLY THIS MONTH AND BRING
10:09:57AM IT TO THE CRA.
10:09:59AM THE CRA WILL BE PRESENTED IN JULY AND GO TO CITY COMMISSION
10:10:02AM FOR APPROVAL HOPEFULLY IN AUGUST AND ADVERTISE FOR DESIGN.
10:10:05AM DESIGN TAKES SIX TO NINE MONTHS.
10:10:08AM PUTS US TO THE END OF THIS YEAR.
10:10:11AM THE DESIGN ITSELF TAKES NINE MONTHS.
10:10:14AM FALL OF NEXT YEAR.
10:10:16AM IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BARRIO LATINO APPROVAL.
10:10:23AM AND CONSTRUCTION ITSELF.
10:10:25AM IF WE WERE TO APPROVE FUNDING IT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED
10:10:28AM CHRISTMAS OF '25.
10:10:30AM WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT TIMELINE.
10:10:32AM WHAT DOVE?
10:10:33AM STARTED A WITH WHAT DO WE HAVE IN YBOR.
10:10:35AM AS YOU CAN SEE SIX TIMES OF YBOR BRICK.
10:10:38AM OVER 100 YEARS OLD.
10:10:39AM ALL DIFFERENT SHAPES, SIZES AND COLORS.
10:10:42AM ALL DIFFERENT EMBELLISHMENT, AUGUSTA, SOUTHERN CLAY,
10:10:48AM BALTIMORE BRICK, GROVE GHAMALA, COPELANDS INGLIS, AUGUSTA
10:10:57AM BLOCK.
10:10:58AM THEY HAVE NICE CHARACTER AND HOW DO WE MIX IT TO MAKE SURE
10:11:03AM WE HAVE THE VISION PLAN FOR THE CRA?
10:11:05AM WHAT DO WE HAVE?
10:11:06AM WELL, IN THE WHOLE CORRIDOR, WE ESTIMATED WE NEED 170,000
10:11:11AM SQUARE FEET OF BRICK.
10:11:11AM LOOKING AT WHAT REALITY TIFFS TO THAT, THE INTERSECTIONS
10:11:15AM ONLY 35,000.
10:11:17AM TWO BLOCKS, 25,000.
10:11:18AM BASED ON THE STOCKPILE AS YOU CAN SEE, HARD TO ESTIMATE AND
10:11:22AM I HAVE PROFESSIONALS THAT USE THE STOCKPILE ALL THE TIME
10:11:25AM THAT ESTIMATE WE HAVE 32,000 SQUARE FEET OF BRICK AVAILABLE.
10:11:30AM THE CITY SAID TWO THINGS.
10:11:31AM MAKE SURE YOU SAVE STOCKPILES AND USE IT FOR ONGOING
10:11:35AM MAINTENANCE FOR REPAIRS.
10:11:36AM AND ALSO, WE WOULD LIKE TO MINIMIZE THE USE OF HISTORIC
10:11:41AM BRICKS IN CROSSWALKS DUE TO A.D.A. AND MEETING DISABILITY
10:11:46AM NEEDS AND NOT HAVING ISSUE THERE IS.
10:11:48AM THOSE ARE THE THOUGHTS.
10:11:49AM UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH YBOR BRICK TO DO THE
10:11:53AM WHOLE THING.
10:11:54AM WHAT DO WE DO NEXT?
10:11:55AM WE LOOKED AT THE TWO ALTERNATIVES.
10:11:57AM ONE IS RECLAIMED.
10:11:58AM THE OTHER IS REPLICA.
10:12:00AM PROS AND CONS TO EACH.
10:12:04AM RECLAIMED IS GOING TO RECLAIMING BRICK FROM OTHER CITIES AND
10:12:07AM OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE HISTORIC ROADWAYS THEY ARE TAKING OUT.
10:12:10AM THE PART OF THIS, IT LOOKS THE MOST HISTORIC, A PRO.
10:12:16AM LOOKS LIKE HISTORIC BRICK THAT MATCHES THE HISTORIC NATURE
10:12:21AM OF YBOR.
10:12:22AM UNFORTUNATELY THE CON IS THAT THAT QUANTITY IS A LOT.
10:12:25AM WHAT I HEARD FROM VENDORS, HARD TO GET 170,000 SQUARE FEET
10:12:29AM FROM ANOTHER AGENCY IN A WHOLE.
10:12:33AM SO YOU WILL HAVE TO ORDER SEPARATE ORDERS AND STOCKPILE IT.
10:12:37AM IT MAY LOOK DIFFERENT.
10:12:39AM FEEL DIFFERENT.
10:12:40AM WHERE DO YOU STOCKPILE AND PHASE IT.
10:12:42AM IT MIGHT TAKE LONGER.
10:12:44AM OPPOSITE TO THAT IS THE REPLICA BRICK.
10:12:47AM YOU ORDER THE BRICK.
10:12:48AM EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT.
10:12:49AM MANUFACTURE IT AND DELIVER IT TO THE CONTRACTOR.
10:12:52AM DOESN'T HAVE TO BE STOCKPILED AND THAT BRICK IS CONTINUOUS.
10:12:56AM COST IS A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE HISTORIC IS ANOTHER PRO.
10:13:00AM THE CON, IT DOESN'T LOOK AS HISTORIC AS THE REPLICA -- OF
10:13:04AM THE RECLAIMED, EXCUSE ME.
10:13:06AM THESE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS THAT WE INVESTIGATED.
10:13:09AM WHO ARE THE VENDORS?
10:13:11AM FOR THE MOST PART, THE RECLAIMED VENDORS ARE GAVIN, COLUMBIA
10:13:17AM AND EVIS.
10:13:18AM DOZENS OF REPLICA BRICK VENDORS, BELDEN, ENDICOTT PINE ALL
10:13:26AM AND WHITACRE GREER.
10:13:28AM TO DO THE STREET WORK TO TAKE ON THE HEAVY LOADS.
10:13:32AM THEY CAN MAKE IT LOOK HISTORIC.
10:13:34AM THESE ARE THE FOUR THAT CAN REALLY MEET THE NEEDS OF THE
10:13:36AM YBOR PROJECT.
10:13:38AM HOW DO THEY MAKE THE NEW BRICKS LOOK OLD?
10:13:44AM THERE ARE FOUR WAYS.
10:13:45AM THE BRICK THEY MAKE BEFORE THEY TIRE THEM, WHAT THEY CALL
10:13:50AM THEY "RUMBLE" THEM TO GET THE EDGES, YOU KNOW, LOOK
10:13:54AM TATTERED.
10:13:55AM THEY FIRE THEM AND TUMBLE THEM AFTER.
10:13:58AM THE CORNERS OF THE TOP RIGHT PICTURE HOW THE EDGES AREN'T
10:14:03AM PERFECT AND LOOKS HISTORIC.
10:14:05AM SECOND THING DIFFERENT COLORS.
10:14:06AM AS I SHOWED YOU SIX DIFFERENT COLORS OF YBOR BRICK.
10:14:10AM DIFFERENT COLORS LIKE SHOWN IN THE BOTTOM LEFT PICTURE.
10:14:13AM ANOTHER THING IS EMBOSSING AND EMBELLISHING.
10:14:18AM EMBOSS SOMETHING THE BOTTOM RIGHT PICTURE WHERE THEY STAMPED
10:14:23AM "TAMPA" INTO THE BRICK.
10:14:25AM YOU WOULD DO IT IN 10% OF THE BRICK JUST TO GIVE IT A LITTLE
10:14:30AM FLARE.
10:14:30AM YOU CAN SEE ON THE FIRST SLIDE, YBOR BRICK HAD AN
10:14:35AM EMBELLISHMENT, THE AUGUSTA HAD THE AUGUSTA EMBELLISHMENT.
10:14:40AM IT IS RAISED LIKE THE PICTURE ON TOP RIGHT.
10:14:43AM WHERE THEY PUT THE DATE.
10:14:44AM ONLY 10% OF THE BRICKS.
10:14:46AM IT WOULDN'T BE EVERY SINGLE BRICK.
10:14:49AM THE FOURTH THING A LITTLE BIT OF A REVEAL OR DOING A
10:14:52AM DIFFERENT HEIGHT OF BRICK TO MAKE IT LOOK NOT PERFECT AND
10:14:57AM NEW AND MAKE IT LOOK MORE HISTORIC.
10:15:00AM ANOTHER OPTION TO MAKE SOME OF THE BRICKS A LITTLE TALLER.
10:15:03AM MAYBE AN 8th OF AN INCH, SLIGHT ENOUGH TO LOOK IMPERFECT AND
10:15:09AM LOOK MORE HISTORIC.
10:15:10AM THESE ARE WAYS TO MAKE THE REPLICA BRICK LOOK OLD.
10:15:13AM WHAT DOES THE TYPICAL SECTION LOOK TO DO THE QUANTITIES AND
10:15:17AM THE COST.
10:15:18AM UNDERSTAND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
10:15:19AM RIGHT NOW IN YBOR, CONCRETE SIDEWALKS AND CURBS ON EACH
10:15:24AM SIDE.
10:15:25AM A CONCRETE PARKING AISLE AND STAY IN PLACE.
10:15:28AM THE 24 FEET OF DRIVING SURFACES BASICALLY AND TAKE AWAY THE
10:15:33AM ASPHALT AND REBRICK IT THAT WOULD REQUIRE NINE INCHES OF
10:15:38AM STABILIZED BASE -- EXCUSE ME, 12 INCHES.
10:15:41AM 9 INCHES OF THE CRUSHED CONCRETE TO MAKE A GOOD FOUNDATION
10:15:44AM AND 3-INCH BRICK WITH THE SAND.
10:15:47AM ON THE EDGES, AN 18-INCH CONCRETE HEADER CURVE.
10:15:51AM WE RECOMMEND THAT SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY TURNING OF THE BRICK
10:15:54AM MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING STAYS IN PLACE FOR THE LONGEVITY
10:15:57AM OF THIS PROJECT.
10:15:57AM SO LOOKED AT SIX ALTERNATIVES TO GIVE THE CRA OPTIONS OF
10:16:07AM COST AND FEASIBILITY.
10:16:08AM THE FIRST IS RECLAIMED BRICK FOR THE WHOLE CORRIDOR.
10:16:11AM SECOND IS FOR THE WHOLE CORRIDOR.
10:16:15AM RECLAIMED FOR INSIDE THE CROSSWALKS AND REPLICA FROM THE
10:16:20AM CROSSWALKS AND USE FLUSH BRIDGE.
10:16:23AM ALTERNATIVE 4 WAS REPLICA BRICK, FULL INTERSECTIONS WITH
10:16:27AM CROSSWALKS.
10:16:28AM FIVE WAS CROSSWALKS ONLY AND SIX WAS AN ALTERNATIVE TO
10:16:32AM UTILIZE SOME YBOR BRICKS.
10:16:33AM TWO CENTER BLOCKS 15 TO 17 COULD BE THE YBOR BRICK FROM THE
10:16:37AM STOCKPILE AND DO THE REPLICA FOR THE REST.
10:16:40AM COMPLETE BRICK, BUT THAT YBOR HISTORIC BRICK RIGHT IN THE
10:16:44AM CENTER.
10:16:45AM ONE THING WE NOTICED DURING THE INVESTIGATION THAT 20th
10:16:51AM STREET WAS THE ONLY STREET A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE.
10:16:54AM IT HAS THESE CENTER MEDIANS THAT THEY TOOK THERE, THE YELLOW
10:17:02AM STRIPING.
10:17:02AM IF WE GO TO REBRICK THAT, NO USE IN REPAINTING THE YELLOW.
10:17:06AM WE FIGURED WE WILL MAKE IT RIGHT AND THE CURBS IN
10:17:11AM CONSTRUCTION OF THE A DA CURBS AND LIGHTING.
10:17:16AM ALL THIS UPGRADE FOR 20th STREET.
10:17:18AM THE COST WE PUT TOGETHER ALL-INCLUSIVE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
10:17:24AM THINKING OF THE WHOLE COST.
10:17:25AM REMOVING OBVIOUSLY EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE THERE, YOU
10:17:28AM KNOW, ALL THE EXCAVATION TO GET THAT 20 INCHES PLUS OF
10:17:32AM FOUNDATION RIGHT.
10:17:33AM PLUS THE BRICK COST INCLUDE NOT ONLY MATERIALS BUT THE LABOR
10:17:36AM AND THE DELIVERY OF THOSE BRICKS.
10:17:39AM 10% FOR MOBILIZATION.
10:17:41AM FIFTEEN FOR ENGINEERING.
10:17:43AM EIGHT CORE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES DURING CONSTRUCTION.
10:17:50AM HEALTHY CONTINGENCIES BECAUSE OF UNKNOWNS AND SEEN SO MUCH
10:17:55AM INFLATION LATELY AND WANTED A HEALTHY CONTINGENCY AT 25%.
10:17:59AM EACH OF THE COSTS INCLUDE ALL OF THESE THINGS.
10:18:03AM HERE IS A -- UP WITH OF THE CHARTS THAT I PUT TOGETHER TO
10:18:06AM ITEMIZE THE CRA WILL HAVE THIS AS A TOOL IF ANYTHING CHANGES
10:18:12AM AND PLUG AND PLAY.
10:18:13AM WE WANTED TO ESTIMATE EVERYTHING IN UNIT COSTS TO COME UP
10:18:16AM WITH THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
10:18:17AM SO WHERE DO WE END UP?
10:18:23AM THE SIX ALTERNATIVES ARE SHOWN WITH THE ESTIMATED COST ON
10:18:26AM THE RIGHT.
10:18:27AM ALTERNATIVE ONE WAS FULLY RECLAIMED FOR 12.
10:18:29AM FULLY REPLICA ALTERNATIVE TWO, 11.2.
10:18:33AM RECLAIMED INSIDE.
10:18:35AM REPLICA ON THE CROSSWALKS.
10:18:37AM 4.3.
10:18:38AM REPLICA CROSSWALKS AT ABOUT 6.
10:18:41AM EXCUSE ME, REPLICA INTERSECTIONS ARE 6.
10:18:44AM REPLICA ONLY 1.3.
10:18:51AM AND YBOR WERE BRICK FOR TWO BLOCKS ESTIMATED AT 10.3.
10:19:01AM ANOTHER PART OF THIS IS HOW DO WE PAY FOR THIS, CHRIS EVEN
10:19:05AM IF?
10:19:05AM WHAT ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES?
10:19:06AM THE TEAM LOOKED AT OVER 80 GRANT OPPORTUNITIES IN
10:19:09AM TRANSPORTATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:19:11AM UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF THOSE ARE FOR SAFETY, FOR TRANSIT AND
10:19:15AM A LOT OF MONEY FOR ELECTRIC CHARGING ALL OF A SUDDEN.
10:19:18AM THEY DON'T APPLY UNFORTUNATELY TO THE CORRIDOR.
10:19:22AM BUT WE FOUND THREE THAT DO HAVE POTENTIAL.
10:19:24AM THE TWO BEST ARE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE GRANT
10:19:30AM FUNDS.
10:19:30AM ONE CALLED MAIN STREET GRANTS.
10:19:32AM IT IS FOR DESIGN SO OBVIOUSLY FOR ENGINEERING PHASE.
10:19:36AM THEY MATCH UP TO $50,000.
10:19:37AM DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR.
10:19:39AM ALSO APPLY TO THE CONSTRUCTIONSHIP GRANT UP TO $500,000,
10:19:44AM DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR, SO GO AFTER BOTH.
10:19:47AM WHEN I TALKED TO THEIR OFFICE, THEY SAID THEY WOULD
10:19:49AM ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO AFTER BOTH ACTUALLY.
10:19:51AM THAT IS GOOD NEWS.
10:19:52AM THE OTHER GOOD THING WAS, RESILIENT FLORIDA HAS A LOT OF
10:19:56AM MONEY COMING IN.
10:19:57AM TAMPA IS DOING REALLY GREAT WORK WITH RESILIENCY.
10:20:00AM AND SO, WE CAN GO AFTER THAT.
10:20:03AM THE ONLY CAVEAT, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE WATER
10:20:07AM QUALITY AND STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS.
10:20:09AM MAYBE GET A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE WHAT IS OUT THERE RIGHT
10:20:12AM NOW.
10:20:13AM PAY A LITTLE BIT MORE ENGINEERING AND ABLE TO GET A LARGER
10:20:17AM GRANT.
10:20:17AM $2 MILLION DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR.
10:20:19AM WE HAVE TO SHOW STORMWATER AND WATER QUALITY IMPROVEMENTS
10:20:23AM WITH THE PROJECT.
10:20:24AM SO WHERE DO WE END UP?
10:20:27AM WE MET WITH THE CAC TWICE.
10:20:29AM ONCE IN OCTOBER AND ONE IN JANUARY.
10:20:30AM WENT ROUND AND ROUND BUT THE ONUS THEY WANTED THE ENTIRE
10:20:36AM CORRIDOR BRICKED AND LOOKING AS HISTORIC AS POSSIBLE.
10:20:39AM SO I COME TO YOU WITH TWO ALTERNATIVES.
10:20:42AM ALTERNATIVE ONE THEY REALLY LIKED AND ALTERNATIVE SIX.
10:20:45AM ALTERNATIVE ONE IS RECLAIMED BRICK SINCE WE DON'T HAVE
10:20:48AM ENOUGH YBOR FOR THE WHOLE CORRIDOR TO DO THE WHOLE THING.
10:20:52AM OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL GIVE THE MOST HISTORIC FEEL FOR THE
10:20:56AM CORRIDOR.
10:20:56AM LIKE I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE ISSUE IS GETTING THE FULL
10:21:00AM QUALITY OF ONE TYPE OF BRICK.
10:21:02AM WE MAY HAVE TO STOCKPILE OR ORDER THE BRICK IN PHASES.
10:21:05AM ALTERNATIVE TO THAT THE YBOR BRICK OPTION ALTERNATIVE 6 THAT
10:21:10AM WE HAVE ENOUGH YBOR BRICK TO DO THE TWO BLOCKS RIGHT NOW AND
10:21:14AM REPLICA BRICK ORDERED IN ONE ORDER.
10:21:17AM CAN BE DONE WITH ONE PROJECT.
10:21:19AM THE COST A LITTLE BIT LESS 10.3 INSTEAD OF 12 AND MAKE IT
10:21:24AM LOOK AND FEEL -- MAKE IT LOOK AND FEEL OLD AS WE TALKED
10:21:28AM ABOUT HOW THEY MAKE BRICKS LOOK OLDER.
10:21:31AM WITH THAT I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:21:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:21:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:21:36AM THE MOST IN-DEPTH PRESENTATION I EVER SEEN REGARDING
10:21:40AM REBRICKING THE STREETS IN YBOR.
10:21:42AM I BROUGHT THIS UP IN CONVERSATION AT THE TROPICANA IN YBOR
10:21:47AM WHEN IT WAS THERE 2015, 2016.
10:21:50AM AND.
10:21:56AM IT IS A NAME IN THE NUCCIO ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY PULLED
10:22:00AM UP ALL THE BRICK AND PUT ASPHALT.
10:22:03AM I WISH THEY WOULD HAVE PUT ASPHALT OVER THE BRICK WHICH WE
10:22:07AM HAVE SEEN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE
10:22:10AM SUCH COMPLICATIONS AND THE COST.
10:22:12AM BECAUSE I KNOW YOU CAN MILL ASPHALT, AT LEAST TRY TO
10:22:15AM PRESERVE WHAT IS UNDERNEATH.
10:22:17AM I KNOW THAT IN PAST ADMINISTRATIONS, A LOT OF OUR BRICKS
10:22:22AM WERE SOLD TO WINTER PARK.
10:22:24AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WINTER PARK HAS IN THEIR STOCKPILE.
10:22:27AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE CALL THEM AND ASK THEM TO PIE THEM BACK.
10:22:30AM THEY USED A LOT.
10:22:31AM I HAVE BEEN OUT THERE AND YOU HAVE SEEN THE AUGUSTA BLOCK.
10:22:35AM YOU DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS OR NOT, BUT BRICKS YOU SEE IN
10:22:39AM THE STREETS MAY HAVE BEEN BRICKS FROM YBOR CITY.
10:22:42AM WE DON'T KNOW.
10:22:42AM WE ARE AT THIS POINT WITHIN THIS NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
10:22:46AM DISTRICT BECAUSE THIS IS WITHIN THE MOST IMPORTANT CORRIDOR
10:22:49AM WHICH IS 7th AVENUE.
10:22:50AM BUT I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN ORIGINALITY, YOU KNOW OR THE PATINA
10:22:55AM OR HOW SOMETHING AGES AND ADDS TO THE BEAUTY.
10:22:59AM IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE 30,000 SOMETHING SQUARE FEET OF BRICK
10:23:04AM IN OUR SUPPLY AND NEED 170,000 OR WHATEVER SQUARE FEET.
10:23:08AM WE HAVE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY WITH BRICK ROADS.
10:23:10AM WE DON'T WANT TO DEPLETE OUR EXISTING SUPPLY.
10:23:13AM WE HAVE GIVEN A LOT AWAY.
10:23:15AM WE SOLD A LOT.
10:23:16AM WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THE ORIGINAL.
10:23:18AM HOWEVER, I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE COMPARISON OF ORIGINAL BRICK
10:23:22AM AND THEN REPLICA BRICK AND HOW THEY AGE IT AND HOW THEY AGE
10:23:26AM THE EDGES.
10:23:27AM AND HOW THEY DO THE COLOR MATCHING AND THE COLOR CHANGES.
10:23:30AM I THINK -- THIS IS JUST MY PERSONAL BEEN.
10:23:34AM IF WE WERE TO DO REPLICA ROUTE, WHAT IS NICE IS THE
10:23:39AM BRANDING.
10:23:39AM YBOR CITY 1885, GOING TO 1886 AS THE ACTUAL FOUNDING YEAR.
10:23:46AM TODAY IS THE ANNIVERSARY OF THE FIRST CIGAR BORN IN YBOR
10:23:50AM CITY.
10:23:50AM >> OH, HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.
10:23:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYWAY, I LIKE THAT.
10:23:54AM I LIKE THE REPLICA BRICK WITH THE BRANDING -- BECAUSE AGAIN
10:23:59AM THE BRANDING OF YBOR CITY.
10:24:00AM I KNOW IT IS NOT ORIGINAL, BUT IT IS CONVINCING.
10:24:04AM IT IS CHEAPER.
10:24:06AM IT IS CONSISTENT ALL THROUGHOUT.
10:24:07AM AND WE GET THAT SAME FEEL.
10:24:09AM WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THOSE GRANITE CURBS LIKE WE DID
10:24:13AM BECAUSE UPDATES IN THE '90s ON YBOR AND 7th AVENUE.
10:24:17AM NOT HAVE THE STREETCAR TRACK THAT RAN DOWN THE MIDDLE.
10:24:20AM HOWEVER, I THINK IT MATCHES OR CLOSELY MATCHES THE CHARACTER
10:24:24AM OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE HAVE THE BRICK LOOK.
10:24:30AM EASIER AND CHEAPER MAINTENANCE.
10:24:32AM A CHEAPER COST.
10:24:33AM IF YOU SAY UNDER $2 MILLION DIFFERENCE, IT IS A EASIER TASK
10:24:37AM TO UNDER TAKE.
10:24:38AM AND FOR MAINTENANCE FOR REPLACEMENT IN THE FUTURE, WE HAVE
10:24:41AM EXISTING MANUFACTURERS THAT WE CAN BUY DIRECTLY FROM FOR ANY
10:24:45AM MAJOR ISSUES.
10:24:47AM ANOTHER THING IS, STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS, I THINK, WERE
10:24:51AM MENTIONED THERE REGARDING THE MATCHING GRANTS.
10:24:53AM WHEN YOU HAVE BRICK, IT IS MORE OF A PERVIOUS SURFACE.
10:24:56AM NOT PERFECT, BUT, YOU KNOW, GAPS BETWEEN THE BRICKS AND
10:25:00AM ALLOW FOR DRAINAGE TO BE A LITTLE EASIER THAN TRADITIONAL
10:25:06AM ASPHALT.
10:25:06AM SO, THANK YOU FOR THIS.
10:25:08AM A CONSERVATION I HAD A LONG TIME AGO.
10:25:10AM AND AN ESTIMATE I GOT WAS $4 TO $5 MILLION.
10:25:15AM OH, THE ENTIRE CITY PAVING BUDGET IT WILL COST TO DO THIS.
10:25:19AM HOWEVER, WE ARE IN THE CRA, SO WE CAN LOOK AT CRA FUNDS AND
10:25:23AM MATCHING GRANTS THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT AND WE CAN TRY TO
10:25:26AM REDUCE THE COST AND THE BURDEN WHILE MAINTAINING THIS
10:25:30AM HISTORIC -- VERY IMPORTANT HISTORIC CHARACTER OF THIS
10:25:35AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:25:36AM A MOVIE DONE A FEW YEARS AGO CALLED "LIVE BY NIGHT."
10:25:39AM IT WASN'T FILMED IN YBOR CITY.
10:25:42AM IT WAS FILMED IN BRUNSWICK, GEORGIA.
10:25:45AM ONE OF THE BIGGEST MISTAKES WHEN THEY SAW YBOR CITY, IT WAS
10:25:49AM DIRT ROADS.
10:25:49AM TEE BORE CITY WAS DIRT ROAD IN THE 1880s I BELIEVE EVEN
10:25:54AM BEFORE -- BEFORE THEY STARTED BRICK.
10:25:56AM THE BRICKS ARE SO SIGNIFICANT AND IMPORTANT TO THE CHARACTER
10:26:00AM OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:26:01AM AND, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:03AM THIS WAS VERY DETAILED.
10:26:04AM GREAT WORK.
10:26:05AM AND I APPRECIATE ALL THAT.
10:26:07AM THANK YOU.
10:26:07AM >> THANK YOU.
10:26:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:26:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
10:26:12AM I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON BRICKS, BUT I WAS ON THE COUNCIL WHEN
10:26:16AM THE EXODUS OF BRICKS SOLD TO WINTER HAVEN AND WINTER GARDEN, AND
10:26:23AM WE STOPPED THAT NO WAY.
10:26:24AM NO MORE.
10:26:25AM DIFFERENCE IN THE WAIVE OF THE BRICK.
10:26:27AM 37 THE BRICK AND THE BRICKS THAT ARE HERE NOW.
10:26:30AM I WOULD SEE -- I COULD HARDLY PICK IT UP WHEN I WAS A
10:26:33AM TEENAGER.
10:26:33AM I MEAN THEY WEIGHED A LOT.
10:26:35AM I GUESS IT WAS ABOUT THREE AND A HALF INCHES.
10:26:37AM I AM NOT CERTAIN.
10:26:38AM AND THEY HAD A NAME ON IT THAT HAD SOMETHING ON IT THAT I
10:26:42AM DON'T RECALL WHAT IT WAS, BUT I REMEMBER SOMETHING BEING ON
10:26:48AM THEM.
10:26:49AM WHY DID THEY LAST SO LONG?
10:26:51AM WE THINK THE BRICKS WERE BETTER.
10:26:52AM MAYBE THEY WERE.
10:26:54AM LET'S FACE REALITY.
10:26:55AM DURING THAT WE ARE -- YOU HAD STREETCARS.
10:26:57AM NOT RUNNING ON THE BRICKS, RUNNING ON THE RAILS.
10:27:01AM A LOT OF AUTOMOBILES BUT NOT AS MANY AS WE HAVE NOW.
10:27:05AM AND THEY WERE WHAT?
10:27:06AM MUCH LIGHTER.
10:27:07AM YOU HAD TO CRANK THEM UP BY YOURSELF WITH THE HAND THING.
10:27:10AM THAT WAS YOUR CRANK.
10:27:11AM AND YOU DIDN'T HAVE AUTOMATIC STARTERS AT THAT TIME.
10:27:14AM CAME IN '30s AND '40s AND ALL THESE THINGS CAME ABOUT.
10:27:19AM SO THE STREETS WERE FAIRLY WELL-KEPT WITHOUT MAINTENANCE TO
10:27:24AM ANY DEGREE.
10:27:25AM BECAUSE THE VEHICLES WERE MUCH LIGHTER.
10:27:28AM DIDN'T HAVE SEMIS COMING THROUGH YBOR CITY LIKE YOU DO NOW
10:27:34AM AND STORE HAS IN ARE OPERATING AS A BUSINESS.
10:27:36AM THEY ARE DOING GOOD AND THESE ARE THE THINGS I SEE.
10:27:40AM MYSELF, I AM THINKING, SELF, HAVE YOU LOOKED SOMEWHERE ELSE.
10:27:45AM WHAT COUNTRIES HAVE BRICKS THAT STILL MANUFACTURE THEM.
10:27:48AM IS IT MEXICO?
10:27:49AM IS IT COLUMBIA?
10:27:51AM IS IT NICARAGUA.
10:27:58AM OR SOMEWHERE ELSE THIS IN THE WORLD.
10:28:02AM WHEN YOU HAVE BRICKS, THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME COLORATION.
10:28:05AM YOU SHOULD BUY ALL THE BRICKS IF YOU CAN, APPROXIMATELY
10:28:10AM 170,000 THAT YOU NEED FOR THAT.
10:28:10AM I AM NOT AN EXPERT.
10:28:12AM I DON'T PLAN TO BE.
10:28:13AM BUT I DID KNOW THE FAMILY CALLED KELLY BRICK COMPANY.
10:28:16AM THEY WERE OUT OF NEW NEW JERSEY.
10:28:18AM YOU KNOW WAS HIS TWO DOLLARS?
10:28:21AM >> WHO?
10:28:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ELIZABETH KELLY AND WHO WAS THE ACTRESS,
10:28:28AM GRACE KELLY.
10:28:28AM AND HAD THE HONOR OF WORKING WITH ONE OF THEIR HUSBAND.
10:28:33AM HE DID THE SAME THING I DID.
10:28:34AM HE JUDGED HORSE RACING IN THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA.
10:28:37AM SO I USED TO VISIT THEM QUITE OFTEN, ONCE IN A WHILE -- NOT
10:28:41AM OFTEN, BUT ONCE IN AT THAT WHILE.
10:28:44AM THEY WOULD COME HERE AND GRACE KELLY'S SISTER.
10:28:47AM YOU KNOW WHAT SHE LIKED TO EAT AT?
10:28:49AM THE PANCAKE HOUSE.
10:28:51AM WE USED TO GO TO THE PANCAKE HOUSE.
10:28:53AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I REMEMBER.
10:28:54AM VERY NICE PEOPLE.
10:28:55AM VERY DOWN TO EARTH.
10:28:56AM I NEVER ASKED HER WHAT KIND OF BRICKS HER FATHER
10:28:59AM MANUFACTURED.
10:28:59AM BUT I KNOW OTHER COMPANIES THAT MANUFACTURE BRICKS SOMEWHERE
10:29:03AM IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY.
10:29:05AM AGAIN I'M NOT TRYING TO ASK YOU OR ANYONE WHAT TO DO, BUT I
10:29:09AM WOULD TRY TO GET SOMETHING THAT MATCHES THE WHOLE THEY THINK
10:29:11AM AT ONCE.
10:29:12AM IT MAY BE PRODUCTION OF SO MANY, BUT THE PRODUCTION MILL
10:29:17AM HAVEN'T CHANGED.
10:29:18AM BECAUSE ONCE IT CHANGES, YOU WILL HAVE COLOR
10:29:22AM DIFFERENTIATIONS TO SOME DEGREE AND WILL SHOW -- NOT WHEN
10:29:25AM YOU BUY THEM BUT WHEN YOU INSTALL THEM.
10:29:27AM SO THAT'S WHY THEY LASTED SO LONG.
10:29:31AM THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE WEIGHT THAT THESE BRICKS HAVE.
10:29:33AM AND IN FACT, YBOR CITY IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST LOCATIONS IN
10:29:37AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, ELEVATION-WISE.
10:29:40AM IF IT FLOODS HERE, IT MAY NOT FLOOD THERE.
10:29:43AM THANK GOD.
10:29:45AM I HOPE IT DOESN'T FLOOD ANYWHERE.
10:29:47AM THESE ARE THE THINGS I REMEMBER.
10:29:49AM AND I HAVE ONE BRICK AT THE HOUSE.
10:29:51AM I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS FROM.
10:29:52AM I REMEMBER HAVING ONE BRICK AND I AM GOING TO TRY TO FIND
10:29:55AM IT.
10:29:55AM BUT FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
10:29:57AM YOUR QUESTIONS AND DEMEANOR, THE WAY YOU PRESENT YOURSELF,
10:30:03AM CHRISTINA, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
10:30:07AM YOU CAN HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT IN LIFE, BUT YOU CAN'T FORGET
10:30:12AM WHERE YOU COME FROM, ALL OF US.
10:30:15AM NOT ME.
10:30:15AM ALL OF US.
10:30:16AM WHAT WAS THERE.
10:30:17AM HOW IT WAS THERE.
10:30:18AM AND WHAT DID THE PEOPLE DO WHAT WE DO NOW THAT WE CAN'T LIVE
10:30:22AM WITHOUT THIS.
10:30:22AM IT WASN'T INVENTED.
10:30:25AM THEY WERE ENJOYING LIFE AS IT WAS NATURALLY.
10:30:27AM WE THINK A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE BUY.
10:30:30AM MOST OF IT IS FAKE.
10:30:31AM IT IS NOT MADE HERE.
10:30:32AM IT IS LOW QUALITY.
10:30:34AM AND ALL THESE RINGS THAT I WEAR THAT LOOK NICE.
10:30:36AM THEY ARE NOT REAL.
10:30:37AM I COULDN'T AFFORD THE RINGS THAT I HAVE THAT ARE REAL.
10:30:40AM SO I AM TELLING YOU, BUY THE BRICKS THAT ARE GOOD.
10:30:44AM EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO PAY A COUPLE OF PENNIES MORE BECAUSE
10:30:48AM THEY WILL LAST LONGER.
10:30:49AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
10:30:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:30:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PROJECT, AND I
10:30:57AM APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES' LEADERSHIP.
10:31:00AM WHOEVER HAVE LED THIS IN THE PAST.
10:31:03AM WHEN I HEARD THE IDEA I HAVE BEEN PUSHING FOR IT AS WELL.
10:31:07AM CAN I ASK YOU REAL FAST, YOUR COMPANY, CAN YOU TELL US --
10:31:11AM TELL US WHAT YOUR -- I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE WORLDWIDE, BUT WHAT
10:31:14AM -- WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR EXPERIENCE IN FLORIDA OAR IN THE
10:31:17AM UNITED STATES OR MAYBE SOME OTHER PLACES ON BRICKING.
10:31:20AM DO YOU GUYS HAVE DIRECT EXPERIENCE ON THIS IN OTHER PLACES?
10:31:24AM >> TO, BRICKING IS LIKE COMING BACK, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
10:31:28AM THE WSP IS AN INTERNATIONAL ENGINEERING FIRM.
10:31:34AM CIVIL ENGINEERING.
10:31:36AM I AM PERSONALLY A CIVIL ENGINEER IN FLORIDA.
10:31:39AM DOING IT 23 YEARS.
10:31:40AM COMPLETE WORK AND ROADWAY DESIGN AND SIDEWALK WALKABILITY,
10:31:47AM BUT NOT A LOT OF BRICKING TO YOUR -- BUT OUR COMPANY HAS A
10:31:51AM CONSTRUCTION WING AND I WAS TIME PARTNER ON THEM WITH
10:31:55AM CONSTRUCTABILITY.
10:31:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: CITIES OFF THE TOP OF WHY YOU ARE HEAD.
10:31:59AM HAVE YOU CON CARTAGENA OR OTHERS.
10:32:06AM >> I WILL HAVE TO ASK THAT.
10:32:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: ST. AUGUSTINE, DID YOU WORK ON THAT?
10:32:13AM >> WE DID NOT WORK ON THAT, NO.
10:32:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ST. AUGUSTINE ONE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
10:32:18AM THEY HAVE PARTS THIS THEY USED NEW BRICK AND MADE COMPLETE
10:32:22AM STREETS OUT OF IT.
10:32:22AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE SEEN IT.
10:32:24AM I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD QUITE WORK HERE, BUT ANOTHER IDEA
10:32:27AM WHERE PART OF THE PROBLEM ON 7th AVENUE IS SPEEDING.
10:32:30AM WHEN THE BRICKS ARE THERE, PEOPLE SLOW DOWN.
10:32:33AM THE OTHER PROBLEM IS SOUND.
10:32:35AM THEY LIKE TO SHARE THEIR MUSIC WITH US ALL.
10:32:38AM AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME IDEA EMBEDDED IN THAT TO BE ABLE TO
10:32:42AM HELP.
10:32:43AM BUT THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENS WITH ST. AUGUSTINE.
10:32:49AM THAT TOURISTS LIKE TO STEAL THE BRICKS.
10:32:51AM LIKE AT NIGHT THEY GO AND DIG THEM OUT.
10:32:55AM ONE CONCERN WITH THE BRANDING OF THEM.
10:32:58AM PEOPLE WILL START STEALING THEM AS SOUVENIRS.
10:33:02AM RUN THE VISITOR CENTER SO WE ARE SELLING THEM SO PEOPLE JUST
10:33:07AM DON'T STEAL THEM.
10:33:08AM A BIG DEVELOPER IN YBOR HAS A WHOLE STOCKPILE OF BRICKS.
10:33:14AM I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS GOING TO SELL THEM.
10:33:16AM DID YOU INCORPORATE THAT INTO YOU ARE IN NUMBERS.
10:33:20AM >> I SPOKE TO THE DEVELOPER PRETTY MUCH A MONTH AGO, AND HE
10:33:23AM MENTIONED HE WAS VERY IN FAVOR OF THE SALVAGED BRICKS TO
10:33:26AM YOUR POINT.
10:33:27AM AND HE WAS KIND OF TAKING IT ON HIS OWN.
10:33:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: HE WAS FIGURING JUST FROM THE PLACE HE
10:33:32AM BOUGHT IT FROM, THE CITY STOCKPILE, WHAT HE HAD ALREADY AND
10:33:36AM THE PLACES HE BOUGHT IT FROM, ENOUGH BRICKS FOR ABOUT TEN
10:33:39AM BLOCKS.
10:33:39AM AND I DON'T KNOW THE PRICE OF ALL THAT.
10:33:42AM BUT ANYWAY, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE FOLLOW UP ON THAT.
10:33:48AM AND THEN GUIDO ANSWERED MY QUESTION, NO BRICK UNDER THE
10:33:53AM ASPHALT?
10:33:54AM >> WE DID AN INVESTIGATION, AND UNFORTUNATELY NO.
10:33:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
10:33:57AM THE OTHER THING AS KIND OF AN ASIDE, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I
10:34:02AM TOLD JEAN DUNCAN, MAYOR KRISMAN WAS LOOKING TO BUY A PIECE
10:34:12AM OF EQUIPMENT.
10:34:13AM AND WANTED TO SHEAR THE COST WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:34:17AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE DID THAT, BUT IF WE DIDN'T, I WANT TO
10:34:20AM LOOK INTO IT.
10:34:21AM BECAUSE THERE COULD BE MORE BRICKS THAT WE ARE LOSING THAT
10:34:24AM WE COULD HAVE SALVAGED HOW WE HAD THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT
10:34:26AM AND USE IT FOR THAT PURPOSE, MAYBE THE CRA CAN PAY FOR IT.
10:34:30AM SOMEBODY WATCHING -- VIK OR SOMEBODY CAN THINK ABOUT THAT.
10:34:34AM CAN YOU GO BACK TO YOUR CONCLUSION PAGE WITH ALTERNATIVE ONE
10:34:38AM AND SIX.
10:34:38AM I WAS THINKING WHEN YOU WENT THROUGH THE ALTERNATIVES -- THE
10:34:43AM FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN THIS PRESENTATION.
10:34:44AM BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO THAT I WOULD PICK TWO.
10:34:49AM >> CAN WE GO BACK ON THE POWERPOINT.
10:34:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY ALTERNATIVES WILL BE ONE OR SIX.
10:34:57AM MY FIRST PREFERENCE -- MY FIRST PREFERENCE ALTERNATIVE ONE
10:35:03AM WHICH IS HISTORIC.
10:35:04AM SECOND TO USE AS MANY HISTORIC BRIDGES THAT WE CAN.
10:35:08AM WE HAVE TEN BLOCKS' WORTH AND WE CAN PUT THE OTHER ONES IN.
10:35:13AM THE IDEA OF USING FOR WATER STORAGE OR PERCOLATION IS GOOD.
10:35:19AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH EXTRA THAT WILL COST.
10:35:22AM BUT FLOODING WILL BE A BIG PART OF WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE
10:35:25AM CITY AND EVEN IF WE BROKE EVEN WITH WHATEVER GRANTS WE HAVE,
10:35:28AM A GREAT IDEA TO PREVENT FLOODING IN YBOR.
10:35:31AM AND THEN -- AS TO THE BRANDING OF IT.
10:35:34AM FOR -- PARTLY FOR THE REASON I MENTIONED I THINK WE OUGHT TO
10:35:39AM BE VERY CAREFUL OF HOW WE BRAND IT, BECAUSE IF IT HAS AN
10:35:43AM YBOR LOGO WITH YBOR WRITTEN ON IT.
10:35:45AM A LOT MORE WILL BE STOLEN.
10:35:48AM ALSO I THINK -- BECAUSE THERE WILL BE SO MANY NEEDS TO BE
10:35:51AM NOT TACKY LIKE THAT.
10:35:52AM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS THE -- THE
10:36:00AM PATENT OR TRADEMARK ON THE YBOR CITY LAMPS.
10:36:03AM SO THERE CAN BE SOME MORE SUBTLE ABSTRACT THING LIKE THE TOP
10:36:08AM OF THE LAMPS OR SOMETHING WE COULD USE OR HISTORIC NAME.
10:36:11AM SOME OF THEM SAY "AUGUSTA" ON THEM.
10:36:15AM ANOTHER YBOR NAME THAT WE CAN USE KIND OF OUR OWN BRAND THAT
10:36:20AM DOESN'T JUST CALL IT YBOR.
10:36:22AM WOULD RECOMMEND DOING SOMETHING MORE SUBTLE THAT DOESN'T
10:36:25AM LOOK SO IN YOUR FACE.
10:36:26AM I HAVE BEEN TO A LOT OF CITIES WITH BRICKS, AND I HAVEN'T
10:36:30AM SEEN ANYBODY BRAND IT LIKE DEEP OR OLD SAN JUAN.
10:36:37AM I DON'T SEE THAT LOGO.
10:36:39AM THAT WILL FEEL LIKE DISNEY THAN SOMETHING AUTHENTIC.
10:36:42AM INSTEAD OF "AUGUSTA" SOME HISTORIC NAME WE CAN USE AS OUR
10:36:47AM BRAND OR USE SOME ABSTRACT SIGNAL BUT NOT LOOK LIKE
10:36:55AM SOMETHING IN A TOURIST SHOP.
10:36:56AM THE LAST THING -- I SAID THIS BEFORE, YBOR IN TEN YEARS BE
10:37:03AM THE BEST CASE STUDY.
10:37:05AM INNOVATION, CREATIVITY, THE ARTS SCENES THEY ARE WORKING ON.
10:37:09AM I THINK IT WILL BE THE CASE STUDY THAT OTHER CITIES WILL
10:37:12AM LOOK AT FOR HOW TO NOT JUST REDEVELOP, BUT HOW TO CREATE,
10:37:17AM DEVELOP A REALLY THRIVING ECONOMY THAT STEPS AHEAD OF AI AND
10:37:22AM ALL OF NEW TECHNOLOGIES.
10:37:23AM THANK YOU.
10:37:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
10:37:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL DEFER TO THE COUNCILMAN.
10:37:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:37:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOLLOWING THE COLLEAGUES THAT JUST SPOKE,
10:37:36AM MR. CARLSON, SOME THINGS THAT COME TO MIND.
10:37:39AM THE NEW DEVELOPMENT GOING TO HAVE OVER 50 ACRES FROM
10:37:44AM NEBRASKA TO PALM AVENUE.
10:37:46AM THAT AREA WILL LOOK BEAUTIFUL.
10:37:48AM ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE BRICK STREETS?
10:37:51AM I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION.
10:37:52AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COURTNEY.
10:37:54AM NO?
10:37:58AM SOUNDS LIKE STAFF IS NOT AWARE THAT THAT IS ACQUIRED.
10:38:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAYBE SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE SOME
10:38:04AM CONNECTION BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED YBOR CITY.
10:38:07AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
10:38:14AM I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE LANDOWNER TO HAVE -- NOT ALL BUT SOME
10:38:19AM BRICK STREETS TO SHOW CONTINUITY.
10:38:21AM WHEN THEY ARE DOING THE SIDEWALKS WHETHER THE SIDEWALKS HAVE
10:38:23AM A BRICK LINING JUST TO SHOW SOME CONNECTION IF WE EXPECT DO
10:38:28AM BRICKS.
10:38:28AM WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THAT --
10:38:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW YOU ARE ALWAYS TWO OR THREE STEPS
10:38:37AM AHEAD OF ME, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:39AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YOU ARE WELCOME.
10:38:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. CARLSON IS CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT
10:38:43AM SOME OF THE BRICKS MAY BE STOLEN WHICH IS A POSSIBILITY.
10:38:46AM I THINK WE CAN MAKE A DEAL OUT OF IT.
10:38:48AM MAKE FAKE BRICKS AND SELL THEM AS SOUVENIRS TO PAY FOR THE
10:38:52AM NEW BRICKS THAT WE ARE GOING TO LAY DOWN.
10:38:54AM THAT IS HOW YOU DO THAT KIND OF BUSINESS.
10:38:57AM WHEN YOU ARE RAISED LIKE MR. GUDES AND I, YOU MAKE THESE
10:39:01AM THINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:39:02AM HOW DO WE GET THIS DONE.
10:39:04AM AND YOU REMEMBER HOW THAT WAS?
10:39:10AM SO WE USED TO PICK UP BOTTLES FOR $.05 TO GET SOMETHING FOR
10:39:15AM FREE.
10:39:15AM THAT IS HOW IT WAS.
10:39:16AM I WAS THINKING THAT WAY.
10:39:18AM AN IDEA OUT OF MR. CARLSON'S CONCERNS.
10:39:21AM WE WILL MAKE BRICKS, 2,000 TO START WITH.
10:39:23AM SEE IF IT GOES.
10:39:24AM AND WHEN THEY COME BACK AND BRING ALL THE TOURISTS INTO TOWN
10:39:30AM AND STREET CARS ARE RUNNING, SELL THEM AND MAKE $8 AND PAY
10:39:34AM FOR THE NEW BRICKS COMING IN.
10:39:35AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE KIND OF DEGREE.
10:39:38AM I KNOW YOU DO.
10:39:39AM NOT IN STEALING BUT SELLING.
10:39:41AM AND THIS OPPORTUNITY AND GIVING YOU AN IDEA HOW TO PAY FOR
10:39:44AM IT.
10:39:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:45AM HAVE A NICE DAY.
10:39:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
10:39:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:39:50AM CAN YOU BRING YOUR SLIDE OF HOW THE LAYOUT OF THE BRICKS ARE
10:39:53AM GOING TO BE?
10:39:56AM PERFECT.
10:39:56AM THEY ARE GOING TO BE LAID ON THE NINE INCHES OF CONCRETE
10:40:00AM PAVEMENT, CORRECT?
10:40:02AM >> YES, THE CRUSHED CONCRETE.
10:40:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM, AS THE BASIS.
10:40:07AM OKAY.
10:40:07AM THIS IS A WONDERFUL PROJECT.
10:40:08AM I SAW YOUR PRESENTATION THE FIRST TIME AT THE YCDC.
10:40:13AM AND IT WAS EVEN GREAT THEN.
10:40:16AM I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS TO HAPPEN.
10:40:18AM NOT THAT I AM WANTING TO CUT COSTS, BUT SO WE CAN MAKE IT A
10:40:22AM LITTLE BIT MORE AFFORDABLE AND FOR A.D.A. COMPLIANCE AT THE
10:40:26AM STREET CAR -- AT THE STREET CROSSINGS, CAN'T WE LAY DOWN --
10:40:30AM I DON'T WANT TO SAY IMITATION, BUT THE MODERN BRICKS SO THAT
10:40:34AM THE PEOPLE WITH A.D.A. OR THE WHEELCHAIR OR WALKING PROBLEMS
10:40:38AM CAN HAVE A SMOOTHER PLACE TO WALK ACROSS THE STREETS.
10:40:41AM THAT IS ONE CONCEPT.
10:40:42AM ONE THOUGHT.
10:40:43AM THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
10:40:44AM AGAIN, IT IS EVEN BETTER THE SECOND TIME AROUND AFTER IT WAS
10:40:51AM PRESENTED IN THE YDYC.
10:40:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:40:58AM >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
10:41:00AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WELL HELLO, AGAIN.
10:41:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HELLO.
10:41:12AM >>Nick: TWO THINGS FOR YOU TODAY.
10:41:17AM WE NEED A MOTION TO FORMALLY CANCEL THE JUNE 8 CRA MEETING.
10:41:23AM IT WILL BE -- YOU HAVE ALREADY APPROVED HAVING YOUR WORKSHOP
10:41:28AM ON THE JUNE 8 MEETING.
10:41:31AM RIGHT NOW WE ARE WORKING TO LOCK IN THE JULIAN B. LANE
10:41:37AM CENTER TO HAVE THAT WORKSHOP.
10:41:39AM TO TAKE THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OFF THE CALENDAR WE
10:41:43AM NEED A MOTION.
10:41:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS.
10:41:45AM MOTION TO CANCEL THE CRA MEETING SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 8, 2023
10:41:50AM AT 9 A.M.
10:41:52AM AND IN ITS PLEAS, SCHEDULING A SPECIAL CRA MEETING AND
10:41:57AM WORKSHOP FOR FUTURE CRA PLANNING PURPOSES INSTEAD ON THE
10:42:01AM SAME DATE JUNE 8, 2023 AT 9 A.M.
10:42:04AM THIS SPECIAL CRA MEETING AT THE RIVER CENTER JULIAN LEAN
10:42:10AM PARK.
10:42:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:42:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECURING THE LOCATION AS MENTIONED.
10:42:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:42:16AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:42:20AM ANY CONVERSATION?
10:42:21AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:42:22AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:42:24AM MOTION PASSES.
10:42:24AM THANK YOU.
10:42:25AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: AND ALSO, IN OUR SEARCH FOR AN ECONOMIC
10:42:31AM DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, WE HAVE BEEN DOING SOME INTERVIEWS.
10:42:34AM AND I -- MR. DRUMGO AND I HAVE INTERVIEWED A CANDIDATE WE
10:42:41AM THINK WILL BE SUITABLE -- NOT SUITABLE -- BETTER THAN
10:42:45AM SUITABLE.
10:42:45AM PRETTY SAW SOME TO BE OUR CRA DIRECTOR AND ASKING FOR YOUR
10:42:49AM EXPRESS AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT HIRE.
10:42:52AM WE EXTENDED AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO MEET THE PERSON.
10:42:58AM AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO GIVE ME THE AUTHORIZATION TO
10:43:01AM MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, PLEASE.
10:43:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:43:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
10:43:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:43:15AM DISCUSSION.
10:43:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT A MOTION TO APPROVE THE HIRING
10:43:18AM OF THIS INDIVIDUAL?
10:43:20AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THE MOTION FOR YOU TO GIVE ME THE
10:43:22AM AUTHORIZATION TO HIRE YOUR CRA DIRECTOR.
10:43:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:43:27AM SECOND, YES.
10:43:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ANY DISCUSSION?
10:43:32AM OKAY.
10:43:32AM BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:43:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GOING -- I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT.
10:43:37AM I MET THE YOUNG LADY.
10:43:40AM MR. DRUMGO AND MISS TRAVIS SEEM VERY HIGH ON THIS
10:43:47AM INDIVIDUAL.
10:43:47AM AGAIN, I WILL ASK MR. DRUMGO TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND TO
10:43:52AM THE COMMUNITY WHY WE KNOW THIS PROCESS, NOT LIKE THE OTHER
10:43:55AM PROCESS.
10:43:55AM AND ALSO THE INDIVIDUAL IN QUESTION THAT IS LOOKING FOR THIS
10:43:59AM VOTE WAS IN THAT PROCESS.
10:44:00AM BUT WAS LACKING ONE THING THAT YOU THOUGHT.
10:44:03AM BUT NOW LOOKING BACK WHAT WE NEED, YOU FEEL THAT PERSON --
10:44:07AM YOU GIVE THAT TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHY WE ARE MOVING FORWARD
10:44:10AM THIS PARTICULARLY WITHOUT THE PROCESS WE HAD LAST TIME.
10:44:12AM I THINK THAT IS FAIR BEFORE THE VOTE IS TAKEN.
10:44:15AM >> MY APOLOGIES, I TYPICALLY DON'T COME UP ON SIDE OF HER ON
10:44:23AM THE MICROPHONE, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR ALIS DRUMGO,
10:44:27AM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
10:44:28AM AS YOU MENTIONED, COUNCILMAN, THE CANDIDATE WAS IN THE
10:44:33AM PREVIOUS POOL WHEN WE SEARCHED FOR THE CRA DIRECTOR AND YOU
10:44:36AM HAD VERY CLEAR CRITERIA FOR US WHAT YOU WANTED.
10:44:39AM ONE OF THOSE CRITERIA WAS A FRA.
10:44:43AM THE FLORIDA REDEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION CERTIFICATION.
10:44:45AM AND SO THAT PLACED HER AT THE TOP OF YOUR -- YOUR NEXT LEVEL
10:44:51AM OF CANDIDATES THAT DID NOT HAVE THAT CERTIFICATION OR THAT
10:44:55AM LEVEL OF EXPERIENCE.
10:44:56AM BUT THE CANDIDATE HAS ALWAYS THE OTHER INGREDIENTS THAT YOU
10:45:00AM ALL ARE LOOKING FOR.
10:45:01AM WHEN YOU TALK OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, THE WOULD, IN
10:45:03AM THE COMMUNITY AND LEADING PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS AND MANAGING
10:45:08AM STAFF AND MANAGING THROUGH CHANGE IN THE PLANS WE HAVE IN
10:45:11AM PLACE.
10:45:11AM REALLY THAT CANDIDATE WAS IN THE POOL.
10:45:13AM IT IS NOT -- IT IS NOT AN OUTSIDE PROCESS WE ARE SEPARATE
10:45:18AM AND APART FROM.
10:45:18AM THE CANDIDATE IN THE POOL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
10:45:22AM AND FOR US, A LEVEL OF FIT IN WHERE WE CAN MAXIMIZE THE
10:45:26AM TALENT AND POTENTIAL AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BRING THAT
10:45:29AM PERSON IN.
10:45:29AM YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, A LOT PEOPLE WHO SAY PUBLIC
10:45:34AM SERVANTS.
10:45:35AM THEY WANT TO BE PUBLIC SERVANTS DECENT UNDERSTAND THE THINGS
10:45:39AM THAT COME WITH THAT OR TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE LEVEL OF
10:45:41AM FOLLOW-UP THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THE PUBLIC.
10:45:43AM SO FOR ME IN GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND BRINGING THIS
10:45:47AM PERSON FORWARD, IT WAS ENSURING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
10:45:50AM THAT LEVEL OF FOLLOW-UP AND ENGAGEMENT THAT YOU ALL ARE
10:45:53AM SEEKING AND THIS THE PUBLIC WOULD WANT ON THE BACK END.
10:45:56AM YOU CAN'T REALLY TEACH GRIT.
10:45:58AM YOU CAN'T TEACH THAT CORE HEART OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND SO
10:46:02AM THAT IS WHAT WE -- THAT IS WHAT WE ARE BRINGING FORWARD FOR
10:46:06AM YOU.
10:46:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ONE LAST THING SO THE PERSON KNOW THAT THIS
10:46:09AM PERSON YOU ARE BRINGING FORWARD A LITTLE BIT OF THE
10:46:12AM BACKGROUND.
10:46:13AM KNOW WHERE THAT PERSON IS COMING FROM LAND GIVE A LITTLE
10:46:15AM LIGHT ONLY SOME OF THE DECISIONS YOU MADE.
10:46:18AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: SHE HAS EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH UNIVERSITY
10:46:21AM AREA CAC IN OPERATIONS AND FACILITY.
10:46:24AM MANAGED PROJECTS CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, GRANT WRITING AND
10:46:31AM GENERAL COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
10:46:32AM YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE -- ALL OF THE INGREDIENTS WITHOUT --
10:46:37AM WITHOUT HAVING THE REQUIRED CERTIFICATION.
10:46:39AM OVER A DECK DEAD OF EXPERIENCE IN THE WORK -- DECADE OF
10:46:44AM EXPERIENCE IN THE WORK AND DOING WORK IN DISADVANTAGED
10:46:48AM OPPORTUNITIES.
10:46:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THIS PERSON WAS THE NUMBER TWO PERSON IN
10:46:51AM THAT UNIVERSITY AREA PROGRAM, THAT'S CORRECT?
10:46:54AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: THAT IS ACCURATE.
10:46:55AM YES, THEY HAVE BEEN WIDELY SUCCESSFUL IN THEIR WORK UP IN
10:47:00AM THAT AREA.
10:47:01AM OUR GOAL IS TO BRING SOME OF THAT ENERGY HERE AND TO GET
10:47:05AM ANOTHER SET OF HANDS ON DECK SO WE CAN WORK THROUGH ALL THE
10:47:08AM CHANGES AND THE REALIGNMENT THAT THIS BOARD HAS ASKED FOR.
10:47:11AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REASON I ASKED FOR THAT INFORMATION SO
10:47:14AM THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW.
10:47:15AM I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE UNIVERSITY AREA HOW THEY ARE DOING
10:47:17AM AND HOW THEY ARE GROWING AND HOW THE CDC IS WORKING UP
10:47:21AM THERE.
10:47:21AM AND THE DIRECTOR WHO IS ACTUALLY RUNNING THAT PROGRAM UP
10:47:24AM THERE.
10:47:25AM SO THAT'S WHY WHEN I ASKED THE TOUGH QUESTIONS THE OTHER
10:47:29AM DAY, IN MY INTERVIEW WITH THE YOUNG LADY, I WANTED TO MAKE
10:47:33AM SURE THAT PERSON HAD TOUGH SKIN WITH SOME OF THE CRAs YOU
10:47:37AM HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
10:47:38AM COME FROM THAT AREA, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE TOUGH SKIN.
10:47:41AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: ABSOLUTELY.
10:47:42AM PEOPLE WANT TO LOOK IMPORTANT AND WEAR THE SUITS AND DO THE
10:47:45AM JOB AND BE SEEN OUT IN PUBLIC IN THAT REGARD
10:47:47AM IT IS VERY CLEAR WE ARE COMING TO ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND
10:47:50AM GET INTO THIS WORK.
10:47:52AM THANK YOU.
10:47:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:47:56AM SORRY, MISS TRAVIS.
10:47:58AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:48:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT ORGANIZATION IS VERY IMPRESSIVE.
10:48:04AM THE NUMBER ONE PERSON IS ONE OF THE MOST OUTSTANDING
10:48:08AM ECONOMIC PEOPLE IN THE REGION.
10:48:11AM AND THIS THE NUMBER TWO PERSON.
10:48:13AM WE CAN'T GET THE NUMBER ONE PERSON.
10:48:15AM BUT SOUND LIKE THE NUMBER TWO PERSON HAS HELPED A LOT WHAT
10:48:18AM HAS HAPPENED THERE.
10:48:19AM TO A FEW OF THE COMMENTS THAT CAME UP BEFORE, IF I HAD A
10:48:23AM CHOICE BETWEEN A REALLY GOOD PERSON WHO KNOWS HOW TO BUILD
10:48:25AM COMMUNITY AND SOMEBODY -- WHATEVER, I WOULD SAY
10:48:29AM A PERSON WHO KNOWS HOW TO BUILD COMMUNITY.
10:48:32AM WE GET INVITED TO GO TO THESE FRA -- WHATEVER THEY ARE
10:48:36AM CALLED MEETINGS.
10:48:37AM I SAT ON A COUPLE OF THEM BUT I DON'T CARE WHAT OTHER CITIES
10:48:40AM IN FLORIDA ARE DOING.
10:48:41AM I DON'T WANT TO POLL CITIES IN FLORIDA.
10:48:44AM I WANT TO LEAPFROG AHEAD OF THEM AND DO BETTER THINGS AND I
10:48:47AM ALWAYS ASK MORRIS, WHAT CAN WE DO WITHIN THE LAW.
10:48:51AM BECAUSE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES WORLDWIDE FOR
10:48:55AM BUILDING A COMMUNITY AND THEN -- THEN FIGURE OUT WITHIN THE
10:49:00AM LAW WHAT TO DO WITH NCRA.
10:49:02AM WE SHOULDN'T BE COPYING WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING.
10:49:06AM MOST CITIES ARE DEALING WITH REAL ESTATE.
10:49:10AM BOARD MEMBER GUDES -- YOU SAY CRA, THIS IS A PROBLEM WITH
10:49:15AM THE INITIALS PEOPLE FORGET WHAT IT MEANS.
10:49:18AM THE FIRST WORD IS "COMMUNITY."
10:49:21AM UNTIL FOUR YEARS AGO THEY FOCUS ON THE REDEVELOPMENT PART
10:49:26AM AND THEY THINK REDEVELOPMENTS MEANS REAL ESTATE.
10:49:29AM THERE ARE INFRASTRUCTURE THINGS WE CAN, NOT THAT IT NEEDS TO
10:49:34AM BE A OEDIPUS COMPLEX, BUT HOW TO BUILD A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.
10:49:39AM AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE UNIVERSITY AREA.
10:49:41AM IN THE UNIVERSITY AREA CDC, THEY HAVE GONE SO FAR NOT ONLY
10:49:45AM UNDERSTAND COMMUNITY BUT LOOK AT THE SUBCULTURES.
10:49:49AM PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT PARTS OF MEXICO THAT SPEAK INDIGENOUS
10:49:54AM LANGUAGES AND HAVE PROGRAMS AROUND THE INDIGENOUS LANGUAGE
10:49:58AM TO WORK WITH THEM.
10:49:59AM IF WE HAVE PEOPLE ON OUR TEAM WHO UNDERSTAND THAT, THEY
10:50:02AM UNDERSTAND THE NUANCE' OF YBOR CITY AND EAST TAMPA AND THE
10:50:07AM OTHER COMPLEX COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE.
10:50:09AM THE OTHER THING IS THAT THIS AREA -- UNIVERSITY CAC FOCUSES
10:50:17AM ON RESULTS.
10:50:18AM THEY ARE A NONPROFIT, SO THEY HAVE TO FOCUS ON RESULTS.
10:50:21AM THEY LIVE OR DIE BY THE DONATIONS THEY GET.
10:50:25AM THEY HAVE TO GET RESULTS.
10:50:26AM SOMETIMES WE ARE ACCUSED OF BEING TOO BUREAUCRATIC AND
10:50:30AM THINGS TAKE FOREVER TO DO EVEN WITH GOOD STAFF LIKE NICOLE.
10:50:35AM WE NEED SOMEBODY WHO IS USE TO BOOTSTRAPPING AND GETTING
10:50:40AM THINGS DONE.
10:50:40AM SOMEBODY RESULTS-ORIENTED.
10:50:42AM RUN AN ORGANIZATION WITH NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES AND HOW TO USE
10:50:46AM MONEY EFFECTIVELY.
10:50:47AM MONEY IS NOT UNLIMITED.
10:50:49AM EVEN THOUGH THE CITY IS GIVING THESE DISTRICTS THE GIFT OF
10:50:52AM THIS ADDITIONAL MONEY THAT THEY DON'T GET THE BENEFIT OF.
10:50:58AM WE NEED TO BE GOOD CUSTODIAN AND KNOW THE VALUE OF THE
10:51:01AM DOLLAR AND FOCUS ON IT.
10:51:02AM THE MOST IMPORTANT I THINK THAT ALIS AND NICOLE ARE
10:51:07AM RECOMMENDING THIS PERSON.
10:51:08AM WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND THE BACKGROUND AND THE
10:51:10AM INTERVIEW, I WILL SUPPORT THIS.
10:51:11AM THANK YOU.
10:51:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:51:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:51:18AM I WILL ENTHUSIASTICALLY VOTE WHY HE.
10:51:21AM I MET ON TUESDAY AND I WAS IMPRESSED.
10:51:24AM A VERY WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL.
10:51:25AM AND AS WE SAID BEFORE, HER INVOLVEMENT WITH THE UADC, SUCH
10:51:30AM AN AMAZING ORGANIZATION, IS SECOND TO NONE.
10:51:33AM I THINK SHE WILL DO A GREAT JOB.
10:51:35AM SHE SEEMS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE, VERY IDEALISTIC, ETC.
10:51:39AM AND WITH THE UADAC.
10:51:42AM YOU TALK OF AN ORGANIZATION IN AN EFFORT THAT IS -- WE ARE
10:51:46AM ALL IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
10:51:48AM IMAGINE IF ONE OF US CREATED SOMETHING LIKE THE UADAC.
10:51:53AM I THINK OF VICTOR CRIST AND THE AMAZING WORK HE HAS DONE
10:51:58AM THERE.
10:51:58AM FOR THAT TO BE A LEGACY AND OUR HATS OFF TO THAT.
10:52:01AM THE GREAT WORK THAT THE UADAC DOES.
10:52:06AM THE INDIVIDUAL IS GREAT AND WILL DO A GREAT JOB AND WE WILL
10:52:09AM BE PARTNERING WITH HER TO SUPPORT THIS ENDEAVOR.
10:52:12AM I AM PROUD TO BE A YES.
10:52:14AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
10:52:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:52:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK.
10:52:19AM I MET THE CANDIDATE THE OTHER DAY WITH ALIS.
10:52:22AM VERY IMPRESSIVE.
10:52:23AM VERY IMPRESSIVE RESUME.
10:52:25AM I LOOKED IT OVER A FEW TIMES.
10:52:26AM YOU KNOW FROM TAMPA, KNOWS THE COMMUNITY.
10:52:30AM WORKING WITH GREAT ORGANIZATIONS AS HAVE BEEN MENTIONED.
10:52:34AM I THINK SHE WILL BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION.
10:52:39AM A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
10:52:40AM HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
10:52:41AM THIS PERSON KNOWS HOW TO DO IT WORKING WITH BOTH OF YOU AND
10:52:44AM EVERYBODY ELSE.
10:52:45AM I THINK WE HAVE A VERY BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD, ESPECIALLY WITH
10:52:48AM ALL THE THINGS WE ARE GOING TO TACKLE.
10:52:50AM THANK YOU.
10:52:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MADAM CHAIR.
10:52:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
10:52:56AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW THAT -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
10:52:59AM KEEP IT MOVING.
10:53:00AM I KNOW YOU ALREADY STARTED WHAT YOU CALL THE OPERATION
10:53:05AM STRUCTURE.
10:53:06AM WE ARE LOOKING AT PUTTING THAT IN PLAY BEFORE THE HIRE?
10:53:09AM OR PUT IN PLACE DURING THAT PROCESS.
10:53:12AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE ARE GOING TO DO IT CONCURRENTLY.
10:53:15AM THE LABOR MARKET IN YOUR PUBLIC MEETING AND PUBLIC
10:53:20AM DISCUSSION DOESN'T ALLOW FOR ME TO WAIT TO MAKE THIS HIRE.
10:53:23AM I NEED TO MAKE THE HIRE NOW.
10:53:25AM SO THIS RESTRUCTURES IS -- IN ORDER.
10:53:28AM YOU PUT IT THIS -- THIS CRA BOARD.
10:53:32AM YOU HAVE TRUSTED US.
10:53:33AM WE HAVE DONE THE WOULD.
10:53:35AM YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING AND HAVING HARD
10:53:38AM CONVERSATIONS TO PUT THIS IN PLACE AND NOT FINISHED OR SET
10:53:45AM UNTIL 18 MONTHS.
10:53:46AM WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE HIRE NOW.
10:53:48AM WE MADE THE CHARACTER AWARE OF THE RESTRUCTURE AND THE
10:53:51AM VISION OF THIS BOARD AND HOW TO MOVE THAT.
10:53:55AM WE WILL MAKE THAT OFFER SOON AND HOPEFULLY SHE WILL ACCEPT
10:54:02AM THE POSITION.
10:54:02AM THE RESTRUCTURING IS CONTINUING.
10:54:05AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT IS KEY FOR THE MOMENT FOR THE EAST SIDE.
10:54:07AM BRINGING EVERYBODY IN.
10:54:09AM THOSE IDEAS ARE ALL THERE VERSUS SILOS.
10:54:13AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: 100% MOVING FORWARD.
10:54:17AM WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
10:54:19AM AS AN ASIDE, I DID THE PRESENTATION YOU GUYS VOTED TO
10:54:23AM APPROVE ADDING CERTAIN POSITIONS.
10:54:30AM WE ARE LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT RESTRUCTURE.
10:54:32AM WE ARE PUTTING THAT IN PLACE AND WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT
10:54:35AM ABOUT IT UNDER THE SERVICES AGREEMENT.
10:54:37AM BUTS ALL IN PLAY.
10:54:45AM MR. DRUMGO SAID IT IS HARD TO FIND -- YOU CAN'T TEACH GRIT.
10:54:53AM WE WORKED TOGETHER BEFORE A SAYING IN THE CRA OFFICE, GRIT
10:54:58AM DON'T QUIT.
10:55:00AM YOU HAVE TO BE HUNGRY TO BE IN REDEVELOPMENT.
10:55:02AM YOU HAVE TO WANT TO DO THE WORK.
10:55:03AM IT WAS OUR MODEL.
10:55:05AM WE HAD IT ON OUR BOARD AND OFFICE THAT GRIT DON'T QUIT.
10:55:10AM SOMETIMES IT TAKES TWO YEARS TO GET A EASEMENT, YOU
10:55:13AM CELEBRATE THAT.
10:55:14AM SOMETIMES YOU HAVE HARD COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND OUTCOME FROM
10:55:17AM THAT.
10:55:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ALWAYS HEARD ME SAY THAT WORD, I AM
10:55:20AM HUNGRY.
10:55:20AM YOU GOT TO BE HUNGRY.
10:55:22AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE BELIEVE THAT THE CANDIDATE WE ARE ASKING
10:55:26AM YOU TO ALLOW ME TO HIRE HAS THE GRIT AND HUNGER TO GET IN
10:55:29AM THE STORM WITH US.
10:55:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
10:55:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING HER AND TALKING
10:55:38AM TO HER A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND A REALLY GREAT CONVERSATION
10:55:47AM BECAUSE I CAME IN WITH -- WE WERE VERY HONEST WITH THE
10:55:50AM CONVERSATION.
10:55:50AM I LOVE THAT SHE HAD A THEY NOMINAL ANSWER FOR EVERY QUESTION
10:55:55AM I HAD.
10:55:55AM THERE WAS NO FEAR AND SHE SEEMS READY TO GET STARTED WHICH
10:56:03AM IS INCREDIBLY EXCITING.
10:56:05AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:56:06AM WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:56:11AM SECONDED FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:56:14AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
10:56:16AM OKAY.
10:56:16AM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:56:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:56:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:56:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:56:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:56:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:56:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:56:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:56:35AM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:56:37AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MR. DRUMGO AND I SINCERELY THANK YOU FOR
10:56:43AM THAT SUPPORT.
10:56:43AM NEXT UP, WE HAVE THE STAFF MONTHLY CRA ACTIVITIES REPORT.
10:56:47AM THERE SHOULD BE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION FOR THAT.
10:56:51AM I THINK MR. BURTON MAY BE UP FIRST.
10:56:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION RELATED TO THE
10:57:00AM DECISION WE JUST MARRIED.
10:57:02AM IF THIS PERSON COMES IN 30 DAYS OR SOMETHING, DOES THAT MEAN
10:57:06AM THAT YOU AND ALIS ARE NOT INVOLVED AT THAT POINT?
10:57:09AM DO YOU PHASE OUT?
10:57:11AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WHAT IS THE PLAN?
10:57:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: DROP US AND RUN.
10:57:16AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: HOT, DROP AND ROLL.
10:57:19AM NO WE ARE IN THIS.
10:57:20AM ALREADY SET -- YOU HAVE BEEN VERY CLEAR ON THE
10:57:23AM RESTRUCTURE YOU WANT TO DO.
10:57:26AM AND ANY CANDIDATE THAT -- ANY NEW HIRE WE ARE GOING TO BRING
10:57:30AM IN.
10:57:31AM WE CAN'T REASONABLY EXPECT THEM TO IMPLEMENT THOSE CHANGES.
10:57:34AM SO MR. DRUMGO AND I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ALONGSIDE THE CR
10:57:39AM DIRECTOR TO IMPLEMENT THE CHANGE, BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT
10:57:42AM THE CRA IS FUNCTIONING AND OPERATING IN THE DIRECTION YOU
10:57:46AM HAVE PROVIDED.
10:57:47AM SO THIS POSITION WILL REPORT TO YOU AS A CRA BOARD BUT
10:57:52AM REPORTING TO MR. DRUMGO.
10:57:54AM OUR FINGER IS ON THE PULSE.
10:57:57AM WE ARE NOT LEAVING IN.
10:57:58AM AND YOU CAN CONTINUE TO SEE US AND CALL US FOR ANYTHING.
10:58:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF I CAN ADD.
10:58:03AM MY COLLEAGUES KNOW THAT FOUR YEARS AGO I WAS CONCERNED OF
10:58:07AM THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE CRA AND WE SET IT UP TO BE MORE
10:58:11AM INDEPENDENT.
10:58:11AM AND THE MAYOR ADMINISTRATION WORKED WITH US TO DO THAT.
10:58:14AM BUT THEN WHEN YOU TOOK OVER ON AN INTERIM BASIS, I WAS VERY
10:58:20AM CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD LOSE OUR INDEPENDENCE.
10:58:22AM UP WANT TO THANK YOU ALL AND THE MAYOR AND THE
10:58:28AM ADMINISTRATION FOR ENABLING YOU TO WEAR MULTIPLE HATS AND TO
10:58:32AM CONTINUE TO IT BE INDEPENDENT.
10:58:34AM NONE OF THE DECISIONS WE MADE WERE ADVERSE TO THE
10:58:37AM ADMINISTRATION.
10:58:38AM BUT YOU HAVE SHOWN YOU ARE WILLING TO LISTEN TO US AND THE
10:58:42AM COMMUNITY AND GET THINGS DONE.
10:58:43AM I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INDEPENDENCE IN DOING THAT.
10:58:46AM THANK YOU.
10:58:46AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
10:58:49AM JEFF.
10:58:50AM >>JEFF BURTON: ONE SLIDE FOR ALL.
10:59:00AM JEFF BURTON, URBAN CRA MANAGER.
10:59:03AM FOR THE -- FOR THE CHANNEL DISTRICT IN THE DOWNTOWN, WE HAVE
10:59:08AM THE RIVER WALK BENEFICIAL BRIDGE STUDY THAT YOU ARE GOING TO
10:59:15AM VOTE ON TODAY.
10:59:15AM A JOINT PARTNERSHIP TO LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION OF THOSE
10:59:18AM TWO.
10:59:18AM JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, CHANNEL DISTRICT WILL CARRY THE WEIGHT
10:59:22AM OF THAT, BECAUSE THE BRIDGE ITSELF IS IN THE CHANNEL
10:59:25AM DISTRICT BUT THE LANDING ON THE DOWNTOWN SIDE IS IN THE
10:59:28AM DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:59:29AM DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT PLAN UPDATE.
10:59:31AM WE LEARNED THIS LAST MONTH THAT IT WILL BE COMPLETED NO
10:59:37AM LATER THAN 2024.
10:59:39AM THE UPDATE TO YOUR OLDER CRA PLAN FOR THE DOWNTOWN.
10:59:42AM WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF THAT.
10:59:44AM THERE WILL BE A NUMBER OF MEETINGS HAPPENING WITH
10:59:48AM STAKEHOLDERS AND PUBLIC MEETINGS TO DISCUSS DIFFERENT TYPES
10:59:53AM OF REDEVELOPMENT WE CAN DO THAT ARE CURRENTLY NOT IN THAT
10:59:57AM CRA PLAN.
10:59:57AM WASHINGTON STREET PARK REDEVELOPMENT.
11:00:01AM THIS IS CHANNEL PROJECT.
11:00:03AM WE ARE CURRENTLY IN COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
11:00:05AM IT IS MOVING FORWARD RIGHT NOW.
11:00:07AM WE WERE AT A STANDSTILL.
11:00:09AM HAD SOME CONFLICTS WITH GETTING IT STARTED, BUT LUCKILY WE
11:00:16AM HAVE A VERY GREAT CONSULTANTS AND PARKS AND RECREATION HAVE
11:00:19AM COME THROUGH IN A BIG WAY TO HELP US WITH THAT.
11:00:21AM AT THE LAST CRA MEETING, WE AGREED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
11:00:26AM PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON THAT.
11:00:27AM ST. JAMES CHURCH BELL HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
11:00:31AM THIS IS CENTRAL PARK.
11:00:33AM THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
11:00:35AM THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS ACTUALLY FOUND THE ORIGINAL
11:00:38AM BELL THAT WAS IN THE CENTRAL AVENUE FOR THE ST. JAMES
11:00:42AM CHURCH.
11:00:42AM IT IS BEING RESTORED TO A POINT.
11:00:45AM THEY WILL KEEP IT LOOKING HISTORIC.
11:00:47AM IT WILL NOT BE BROUGHT BACK ALL SHINY AND NEW.
11:00:51AM WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE THAT BELL PRESENT.
11:00:56AM ONCE IT IS IN PLACE, IT WILL NOT BE RUNG AGAIN BUT ASKING
11:01:01AM ONE LAST TIME WE RING THE BELL AND RECORD IT SO THAT WE HAVE
11:01:04AM THAT FOR PRESERVATION.
11:01:06AM THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER STORMWATER PRETREATMENT.
11:01:10AM THIS IS A TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT PROJECT.
11:01:13AM IT IS ACTUALLY IN THE PLAN THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE
11:01:15AM THIS.
11:01:16AM AND THIS IS TO RETREAT STORMWATER THAT IS COMING DOWN
11:01:20AM FLORIDA AVENUE AND ENTERING THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AT
11:01:30AM THE ULELE.
11:01:30AM AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WILL BE BRINGING BACK IN THE
11:01:33AM FUTURE.
11:01:33AM WORKING WITH PURCHASING TO -- TO WORK THAT PROCESS SO THAT
11:01:37AM IT IS DONE ACCORDING TO CITY POLICIES.
11:01:39AM AND THIS IS THE URBAN CRA REPORT.
11:01:45AM ANY QUESTIONS?
11:01:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARSON.
11:01:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO -- I JUST THOUGHT OF
11:01:53AM THIS AS YOU WERE PRESENTING THIS, BUT IF YOU ARE GOING
11:01:56AM THROUGH A -- ALMOST YEAR -- ALMOST A YEAR-LONG PROCESS ON
11:02:00AM THE DOWNTOWN CRA, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE INCLUDED IN THE
11:02:05AM OPTION INSTEAD OF JUST ASKING PEOPLE -- WHAT ARE ALL THE
11:02:08AM GOODIES WE CAN SPENDS MONEY ON, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK AS TWO
11:02:12AM ALTERNATIVES, ONE, REDUCING THE AMOUNT BY 25%.
11:02:15AM AND ANOTHER -- REDUCING BY 50% TO RETURN TO THE GENERAL FUND
11:02:20AM TO SPEND IT IN OTHER AREAS.
11:02:22AM SO IF I COULD SEE HOW IT GOES, I WILL JUST MAKE A MOTION TO
11:02:28AM ASK THAT IN THAT PROCESS, THAT AMONG THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES
11:02:32AM THAT THEY PRESENT TWO ALTERNATIVES.
11:02:34AM ONE WOULD BE TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT BY 25%.
11:02:37AM AND THE SECOND ONE TO REDUCE IT BY 50% SO WE CAN GET INPUT
11:02:42AM FROM THE PUBLIC IN THE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
11:02:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:02:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: QUESTION.
11:02:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I NEED A SECOND.
11:02:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:02:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:03:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT ARE THE RULES AND IMPLICATIONS OF
11:03:04AM DOING THAT.
11:03:04AM CERTAIN GUIDELINES, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.
11:03:08AM HOW WILL THAT WORK, ONE.
11:03:10AM AND LOOKING AT THE PROJECTS ON DECK NOW, HOW DOES THAT PLAN
11:03:14AM OUT IF YOU DROP THAT MONEY DOWN.
11:03:16AM HOW WILL THAT MONEY WORK?
11:03:18AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: PART OF THIS, IF THE CRA WANTS TO MOVE IN
11:03:23AM THAT DIRECTION, ONE OF THE CHIEF THINGS WE WOULD HAVE TO DO
11:03:26AM IS LOOK AT OUR PRESENT COMMITMENTS.
11:03:28AM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF VERY COSTLY AGREEMENTS AND IMPROVEMENTS
11:03:33AM THAT WE AGREED TO THAT ARE COMING OUT OF THE DAYTIME CRA.
11:03:40AM $29 MILLION FOR THE STRAZ.
11:03:42AM $15 MILLION FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER.
11:03:45AM MUSEUM OF ARTS WILL ASK FOR A SEIZABLE AMOUNT, $14 MILLION
11:03:49AM FOR TAMPA THEATRE.
11:03:50AM $2.5 MILLION FOR TAMPA UNION STATION.
11:03:52AM ALSO AN ASK COMING ON POTENTIALLY FOR FISCAL IMPROVEMENTS
11:03:56AM THAT ARE RELATED TO THE STREETCAR EXTENSION OR A -- OR A --
11:04:01AM A CIRCULATOR SYSTEM IN DOWNTOWN.
11:04:03AM ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS ARE THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY
11:04:07AM BE COMING BEFORE YOU ALL.
11:04:09AM THAT NEEDS TO BE BALANCED AND WE HAVE TO THINK THROUGH ALL
11:04:12AM OF THAT.
11:04:12AM OBVIOUSLY IF WE REDUCE THE INCREMENT INTO THE DOWNTOWN CRA
11:04:18AM THAT LIMITS.
11:04:19AM WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR WHATEVER WE HAVE AGREED TO PROVIDE IN
11:04:23AM AGREEMENTS WITH OTHER DEVELOPERS AND CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS.
11:04:27AM WE HAVE TO DETERMINE HOW WE -- IF YOU ALL WANTED TO PUT BACK
11:04:31AM ON THE INCREMENT HAT.
11:04:33AM WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PLAN THAT BECAUSE WE COULDN'T
11:04:37AM DO THAT OVERNIGHT.
11:04:39AM LEGALLY WE HAVE TO AMEND THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN
11:04:42AM THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO ANYWAY AND THAT WILL BE PART OF
11:04:45AM THIS.
11:04:45AM WE WILL HAVE TO AMEND OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH
11:04:49AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:04:49AM BECAUSE THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
11:04:51AM WE AGREED TO PAY 95% OF THE TAX INCREMENT THAT THE CITY
11:04:55AM RECEIVES INTO THE DOWNTOWN TIF FUND.
11:04:57AM THOSE ARE THE STEPS.
11:04:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A LOT OF STEPS.
11:05:00AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES.
11:05:02AM >>JEFF BURTON: JUST TO AGREE WITH THAT, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED
11:05:06AM TO PUT TOGETHER A TEN-YEAR BUDGET REPORT, ALL THE CRAs.
11:05:10AM IF THAT WERE SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WANTED TO DO, WE
11:05:13AM ACTUALLY HAVE THE PROJECTIONS THAT WE NEED TO SHOW ALL O
11:05:17AM THESE EXPENDITURES.
11:05:19AM AND WHERE THEY END UP.
11:05:20AM SO IT COULD BE IF THAT IS WHAT THE BOARD WISHES, IT JUST
11:05:27AM WANT HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY UNTIL AFTER SOME OF THE OTHER
11:05:31AM PAYMENTS ARE PAID OUT.
11:05:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:05:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO FOLLOW-UP ON THAT.
11:05:37AM THE -- YOU NO KNOW I BROUGHT THIS UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO,
11:05:41AM BUT THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS, WE ARE GOING TO THE PUBLIC.
11:05:44AM SPENDING A YEAR ASKING THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY THINK.
11:05:46AM ALL THIS MOTION IS TO ASK THE PUBLIC, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF
11:05:51AM THESE IDEAS.
11:05:51AM OF COURSE WE HAVE TO KEEP ALL OF OUR FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS.
11:05:54AM AND THE OTHER THING BROUGHT UP THAT WAS BROUGHT UP LAST TIME
11:05:58AM AS WELL ONCE IT GOES IN THE GENERAL FUND WOULD WE LOSE THE
11:06:02AM COUNTY MONEY.
11:06:03AM NEGOTIATE A DIFFERENT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY
11:06:07AM AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE POSSIBLE.
11:06:08AM WE CAN ALSO, SITTING AS CITY COUNCIL THEN, SET UP A SPECIAL
11:06:13AM FUND.
11:06:13AM SET UP A POTHOLE FUND.
11:06:16AM A ROAD REPAIR FUND.
11:06:17AM A PARKS FUND.
11:06:19AM AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND.
11:06:21AM THE PROBLEM IS THAT PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY ARE
11:06:23AM COMPLAINING EVERY DAY THAT POTHOLES ARE NOT GETTING FILLED.
11:06:30AM NOT ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ALL THESE BASIC PROBLEMS WE
11:06:34AM CAN'T FIX, BUT NOW WE ARE GOING TO GO TO A GROUP IN DOWNTOWN
11:06:41AM AND SAY THE REST OF THE CITY WILL SUBSIDIZE YOU BUT HAVE A
11:06:47AM GOODY LIST THAT WE WILL PAY FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS.
11:06:50AM THE CITY SAYS WE DON'T WANT OUR TAXES INCREASED AND WE WANT
11:06:55AM TO FILL THESE BASIC RESOURCES.
11:06:57AM TO ASK THE PUBLIC.
11:06:59AM THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR A SEPARATE PUBLIC PROCESS.
11:07:02AM ASK THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY THINK.
11:07:03AM PROBABLY THE PEOPLE IN DOWNTOWN ARE GOING TO SAY NO.
11:07:06AM BUT IT IS WORTH THE DISCUSSION.
11:07:08AM BECAUSE IF WE JUST -- AT LEAST BY INCLUDING THESE, WE WILL
11:07:11AM GET PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT -- THAT OTHER PARTS
11:07:14AM OF THE CITY HAVE PARKS THAT ARE FALLING APART AND POTHOLES
11:07:18AM BECAUSE WE ARE SPENDING THIS MONEY IN DOWNTOWN.
11:07:20AM SO HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE CAREFUL WHAT THEY PROPOSE
11:07:24AM SPENDING THE MONEY ON.
11:07:25AM NOT JUST A LIST OF GOODIES THEY CAN SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY
11:07:29AM ON.
11:07:29AM THE REST OF THE CITY IS SUBSIDIZING IT.
11:07:31AM THANK YOU.
11:07:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:07:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:07:38AM I APPRECIATE ANYTHING THAT COMES UP IN THE DISCUSSION TO
11:07:41AM LOOK AT WHERE IT IS.
11:07:41AM BUT I BELIEVE WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION -- NOT THE
11:07:44AM ADMINISTRATION, BUT WHAT THE INDIVIDUALS THAT RUN THE CRA
11:07:47AM AND THE ATTORNEY WHO SITS HERE REPRESENTING THE CRA AND
11:07:52AM OURSELVES WITHOUT HAVING A FACT FIGURE IN FRONT OF US WHAT
11:07:59AM THE EXPENDITURES AND WHAT WE PROMISED WOULD HAPPEN, THAT
11:08:03AM MONEY IS ALREADY TIDE UP.
11:08:04AM FOR US -- I AM NOT OPPOSED TO ASKING THE PUBLIC FOR
11:08:07AM ANYTHING.
11:08:07AM I DON'T WANT TO -- LOOK WHAT MIRANDA SAID.
11:08:10AM LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING.
11:08:11AM FOR US TO DO THIS, WE MIGHT HAVE -- WE MIGHT HAVE SOME
11:08:18AM COMPLICATIONS INTO MEETING THE NEEDS YOU ALREADY SAID THAT
11:08:24AM YOU WERE GOING TO DO AND THE PAYMENTS AND WHAT IS LEFT OVER.
11:08:27AM I DON'T KNOW ALL THOSE ANSWERS.
11:08:29AM SO I WOULD RATHER HAVE A -- A DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE CRA
11:08:36AM BOARD, I GUESS, US, AND THE INDIVIDUALS HERE REPRESENTING
11:08:41AM WHAT THEY DO SO WELL IN THE CRA AREA AND THE ATTORNEYS TO
11:08:45AM TILL US WHAT YOU CAN DO AND CAN'T DO.
11:08:47AM BECAUSE THE CRAs ARE SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CONTROLLED BY
11:08:53AM STATE STATUTE.
11:08:54AM YOU HAVE THE COUNTY INVOLVED.
11:08:55AM YOU HAVE OTHER ENTITIES INVOLVED.
11:08:57AM AND FOR US TO SAY WE ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP
11:09:00AM SOMETHING WHICH IS NEEDED BUT THAT IS UP TO US TO FIND IT
11:09:04AM WHERE WE SET AT CITY COUNCIL TO FIND THAT MONEY WITHIN THE
11:09:08AM BUDGET TO DO IT.
11:09:08AM WE COMMITTED FOR 30 YEARS OF SOMETHING AND SOMETHING TIME
11:09:12AM WHATEVER THAT PERIOD ENDS I DON'T KNOW TODAY.
11:09:14AM I KNOW 30 YEARS.
11:09:15AM I AM NOT GOING TO SAYS IT TOMORROW OR THE NEXT YEAR, BUT 15,
11:09:20AM 20 YEARS DOWN THE LINE, WHEN YOU MAKE A COMMITMENT LIKE
11:09:24AM THAT, NO MATTER THIS COUNCIL MADE IT OR PRIOR COUNCILS MADE
11:09:27AM IT OR FUTURE COUNCILS ARE GOING TO MAKE IT, YOU HAVE A LEGAL
11:09:31AM OBLIGATION TO MEET THE NEEDS OF WHAT YOU SIGNED.
11:09:34AM WHEN YOU GET INVOLVED IN THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OF
11:09:38AM THE OUTCOME WILL BE, YOU ARE RISKING NOT ONLY THE FUNDS OF
11:09:42AM THE CRA BUT THE FUNDS OF THE GENERAL FUND.
11:09:46AM IF SOMEONE FILES A SUIT.
11:09:52AM AND I AM NOT AFRAID TO GO TO COURT, BUT IF THAT SUIT TELLS
11:09:55AM US THAT WE ARE LONG AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED
11:09:58AM TO DO, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM THAT WE CAN SOLVE.
11:10:01AM SO I AM JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIRECTION IS THAT
11:10:06AM WE ARE GOING.
11:10:06AM BECAUSE WE DID SIGN AN AGREEMENT.
11:10:09AM MAYBE I AM WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE WE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH
11:10:14AM THE CRAs, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND OTHERS INVOLVED TO DO WHAT
11:10:16AM WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO AND WE ARE DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE
11:10:20AM SAID WE WERE GOING TO DO.
11:10:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH I REPLACE MY MOTION --
11:10:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
11:10:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL WAIT, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
11:10:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:10:31AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SEE WHERE MR. CARLSON IS GOING.
11:10:34AM DOWNTOWN.
11:10:35AM THEY NEED TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
11:10:37AM BUT I THINK THE OBLIGATION -- LIKE I SAID WE HAVE MONEY OUT
11:10:40AM FOR THE STRAZ.
11:10:41AM THE MUSEUM AND THE CONVENTION CENTER AND THE TAMPA THEATRE
11:10:48AM IS ASKING FOR A BUNCH OF MONEY.
11:10:50AM IF GOING TO STOP IT, FULFILL THE OBLIGATION OF THE FOUR AND
11:10:55AM FIVE INDIVIDUALS BEFORE ENDING IT OR POTENTIALLY -- SO
11:10:58AM PEOPLE ARE -- WANT TO GO ASK FOR THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
11:11:02AM YOU HAVE TO SAY, THESE ARE OBLIGATIONS WE CUT IT OFF WITH
11:11:06AM THESE FIVE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE COMMITTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT
11:11:10AM THAT.
11:11:11AM BUT WILL TAKE FOR THEM TO COME BACK AND TELL THAT YOU
11:11:13AM INFORMATION AND LEGAL FOR US TO SAY WHAT WE CAN OR CAN'T DO.
11:11:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
11:11:18AM ON THE SURFACE, DOWNTOWN IS BEAUTIFUL AND THE DOWNTOWN CRA
11:11:25AM HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB, BUT THERE IS MORE TO DOWNTOWN
11:11:28AM THAN WHAT PEOPLE SEE.
11:11:30AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE ARE PARTS, ZACK STREET NORTH THAT
11:11:36AM ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF HELP.
11:11:39AM AND THEY ARE ALSO INFRINGING ON OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
11:11:44AM HAVE CRAs.
11:11:46AM I WILL MAKE A MOTION LATER THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY SEE
11:11:50AM THE DOWNTOWN CRA EXTENDED UP TO MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.,
11:11:57AM INCLUDING NEBRASKA, FLORIDA AND TAMPA STREETS WHICH ARE IN
11:12:03AM DESPERATE NEED OF HELP FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOTH IN
11:12:08AM BUSINESS AND RESIDENTIAL.
11:12:09AM SO I -- YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE
11:12:14AM DOWNTOWN CRA IS NO LONGER NEEDED, THERE ARE PARTS GOING
11:12:19AM FURTHER NORTH THAT ARE THE URBAN CORE.
11:12:21AM AND WHICH ARE GOING TO BECOME THE NEW DOWNTOWN AREA.
11:12:24AM IF WE LOOK TO OUR FRIENDS OVER AT THE COUNTY TO REPAVE THEIR
11:12:31AM ROADS, OUR CONSTITUENTS WOULDN'T COMPLAIN AS MUCH.
11:12:37AM WE ONLY HAVE 19% OF THE STREETS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:12:41AM THAT BELONG TO THE CITY.
11:12:43AM ARMENIA, HOWARD, KENNEDY, COLUMBUS, BAYSHORE.
11:12:49AM PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THESE REPAVING.
11:12:52AM THEY DON'T BELONG TO THE CITY.
11:12:53AM THEY BELONG TO THE COUNTY.
11:12:55AM IF OUR FRIENDS FROM THE COUNTY WOULD REPAVE THOSE STREETS,
11:12:57AM WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OFF OUR PLATE.
11:12:59AM THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
11:13:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:13:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN I HEAR THE AMENDED MOTION.
11:13:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FORWARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:13:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE THE ORIGINAL MOTION
11:13:11AM WITH A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO COME BACK ON -- IN THE JULY
11:13:19AM CRA MEETING TO PROPOSE AN OPTION TO REDUCE THE CRA FUNDING
11:13:29AM IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA DISTRICT THAT COULD BE DISCUSSED FOR THE
11:13:35AM PURPOSE OF POTENTIALLY PROVIDING AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THE
11:13:41AM PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT DISCUSSIONS FOR THE CRA PLAN.
11:13:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:13:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE IDEA IS INSTEAD OF SAYING NOW WE ARE
11:13:53AM GOING TO PUT TWO OPTIONS ON SAYING -- OF COURSE WE HAVE TO
11:13:57AM INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT IS ALREADY PROMISED.
11:14:05AM THIS WILL GIVE TIME TO GIVE INPUT AND COME BACK AND SAY THIS
11:14:08AM IS THE OPTION AND WE CAN STILL VOTE ON IT.
11:14:11AM AND ALL WE ARE VOTING ON AT THIS TIME IS TO ASK THEM TO PUT
11:14:15AM IT IN THE PUBLIC ENGAGE 789 PROCESS.
11:14:18AM WE WOULDN'T BE VOTING TO END IT.
11:14:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD SECOND THAT.
11:14:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WE HAVE A SECOND.
11:14:22AM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:14:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SUPPORT THAT OR
11:14:26AM NOT.
11:14:26AM WE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH VARIOUS -- I THINK THERE ARE
11:14:29AM EIGHT OF THEM.
11:14:30AM I NEED LEGAL TO TELL US BEFORE WE START POKING AROUND SEEING
11:14:34AM WHAT WE CAN DO OR CANNOT TO DO LAY THE GUIDELINES SO WE
11:14:39AM DON'T HIT THAT SLIPPERY SLOPE AND FIND OUT THAT WE CAN'T DO
11:14:43AM WHAT WE WANT TO DO AND BE EMBARRASSED AGAIN.
11:14:46AM I WOULD LIKE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, MR. MASSEY, WHO IS THE
11:14:52AM ATTORNEY FOR THE CRA TO GATHER THE INFORMATION THAT WE SPOKE
11:14:56AM ABOUT AND TO PUT IT INTO LEGAL CONTEXT WHAT WE CAN OR CAN
11:15:01AM NOT DO WITH THAT PROGRAM IS HE SIGNED ON FOR YEARS TO COME.
11:15:04AM AND IF NOT, I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT ANY MOTION UNLESS THE
11:15:08AM LEGAL DEPARTMENT TELLS US THAT HERE IS WHAT YOU CAN DO.
11:15:12AM AND HERE WHAT YOU CANNOT DO.
11:15:13AM NOT WHAT A WE WANT TO DO, BUT LEGALLY DO WITH THE AGREEMENTS
11:15:18AM THAT WE SIGNED ON.
11:15:19AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MR. MIRANDA, THERE -- IF YOU ALL WANT TO
11:15:24AM REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF THE CITY CONTRIBUTION INTO THE DOWNTOWN
11:15:30AM CRA, THERE IS A MEANS TO LEGALLY DO IT, BUT THERE ARE A
11:15:33AM NUMBER OF STEPS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO
11:15:36AM DO THAT, INCLUDING REVISING OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY.
11:15:40AM JUST SO YOU ARE AWARE, THE COUNTY DOES NOT CORRECT ANY OF
11:15:43AM THEIR TIF TO THE DOWNTOWN.
11:15:46AM THINK PROJECTS OF THE DOWNTOWN ARE SUPPORTED SOLELY FROM THE
11:15:50AM CITY'S TIF.
11:15:51AM THE COUNTY MAY NOT CARE SO MUCH WE ARE REDUCING IT EXCEPT IF
11:15:56AM IT IMPACTS ANY OF OUR OBLIGATIONS WITH THE COUNTY.
11:15:59AM ONE THAT I THINK OF THAT WE STILL HAVE OUTSTANDING IS THE
11:16:05AM AGREEMENT RELATIVE TO THE WATER STREET DEVELOPMENT AND FROM
11:16:10AM IMPROVE AND WE AGREE TO FUND 50% OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE
11:16:14AM IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO THAT PROJECT THROUGH THE CRA
11:16:18AM FUNDING.
11:16:18AM ONE THING THEY MAY BE CONCERNED WITH, BUT I THINK PART OF
11:16:22AM ALL THIS, IF YOU ALL WANTED TO GO DOWN THIS ROUTE, IS THAT
11:16:26AM WE WOULD HAVE TO STUDY WHAT THOSE OBLIGATIONS ARE AND COME
11:16:30AM UP WITH A PLAN TO REDUCE THAT.
11:16:32AM AND -- WOULD HAVE TO BE PRESENT AND GO TO THE COUNTY.
11:16:36AM NEGOTIATE THE AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY TO SEE IF WE CAN
11:16:40AM APPROVE IT AND A PROCESS TO AMEND THE PLAN HOW WE WOULD GO
11:16:44AM ABOUT DOING IT LEGALLY.
11:16:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:16:46AM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:16:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:48AM YOU KNOW, THIS CAME UP A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN THE FORM OF
11:16:52AM CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
11:16:54AM MY RECOLLECTION IS THE CHANNELSIDE PLAN FAILED IN TERMS OF
11:17:01AM SUNSETTING, PASSED 4-3.
11:17:05AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT.
11:17:07AM I SUPPORTED THAT LOOKING AT CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
11:17:10AM I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN OPEN TO SOME MODIFICATIONS BUT WHILE
11:17:14AM LOOKING AT WHAT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ARE.
11:17:17AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WISELY BRINGS UP THE FACT AND THE IDEA
11:17:21AM THAT WE MAKE CERTAIN COMMITMENTS FOR HOWEVER LONG I HAVE NO
11:17:31AM A PROBLEM WITH THE FEASIBILITY OF IT WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON
11:17:36AM WAS TALKING ABOUT.
11:17:37AM THE FEASIBILITY.
11:17:38AM I WONDER IF THE ROADBLOCKS WILL OUTWEIGH THE BENEFITS.
11:17:47AM A LOT WERE TALKED ABOUT THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART, THE STRAZ
11:17:50AM CENTER ONE THAT WILL TAKE UP 40% OF THE CRA DOWNTOWN BUDGET
11:17:54AM AT LEAST PROJECTIONS WHEN THIS WAS PASSED ABOUT A YEAR OR SO
11:18:00AM AGO IN YEAR 5.
11:18:01AM THAT WILL TAKE UP A LOT.
11:18:03AM THE ISSUE IS BY PUTTING THIS FORWARD RIGHT NOW, WHAT BENEFIT
11:18:07AM WE WILL GET OUT OF IT WITH ALL THE OBLIGATIONS AND DETRIMENT
11:18:13AM WITH THE PROCEDURE OF GOING THROUGH IT.
11:18:15AM I SPEAK OUT OF COMPLETE IGNORANCE.
11:18:18AM MONEY LOST, ETC.
11:18:20AM IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT FEASIBILITY, LEGAL CONSEQUENCES OF
11:18:25AM IT.
11:18:25AM I AM FINE WITH THAT.
11:18:26AM BUT WE HAVE TO KNOW IN TERMS OF THE MANY, MANY, MANY
11:18:30AM COMMITMENTS THAT WE MADE AS A BODY HERE.
11:18:36AM AND WHAT WILL BE THE FEASIBILITY OF GOING THROUGH ALL THE
11:18:39AM STEPS AND FOR WHAT IF MOST OF THE BUDGETS ARE ALREADY
11:18:43AM COMMITTED IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
11:18:45AM AGAIN, GOOD QUESTIONS.
11:18:46AM YOU KNOW MAYBE WE CAN HAVE -- AS A MOTION TO LOOK AT
11:18:52AM FEASIBILITY FOR A MORE ROBUST TO TALK ABOUT THE NUMBERS AND
11:18:56AM CONSEQUENCES.
11:18:57AM I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT THAT.
11:18:58AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT IF IT IS TAILORED IN THAT
11:19:03AM REGARD.
11:19:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:19:04AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:19:06AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:19:09AM ANY MORE DISCUSSION?
11:19:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I ASK COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:19:19AM APOLOGIZE, BECAUSE YOU KIND OF ARE REDID THE MOTION, SO TO
11:19:24AM SPEAK.
11:19:24AM IS THIS MORE SO AS A FEASIBILITY, LOOKING IF FOR THE LEGAL
11:19:30AM FEASIBILITY -- I AM OPEN TO TALK ABOUT IT.
11:19:33AM I JUST DON'T -- I AM OPEN TO TALKING ABOUT MAYBE -- AGAIN,
11:19:39AM JUST LOOKING AT THE IDEA.
11:19:40AM GO AHEAD.
11:19:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T REMEMBER ALL THE WORDS, BUT THE IDEA
11:19:44AM IS I THINK IN JULY WE WILL TALK OF THE BUDGET FOR THE CRA,
11:19:48AM IT WILL JUST BE TO ASK STAFF BETWEEN NOW AND THEN TO LOOK AT
11:19:52AM THE LEGAL AND FINANCIAL RAMIFICATIONS, THE CONTRACTS, AND
11:19:58AM TALK TO YOU ALL AND COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL.
11:20:01AM AND WE WOULD NOT ACT ON THE PROPOSAL RIGHT AWAY.
11:20:03AM ALL WE WOULD DO IF WE LIKE THE PROPOSAL, WE WILL ASK THE
11:20:09AM STAFF TO INSERT THIS PROPOSAL AS ONE ALTERNATIVE INTO THE
11:20:12AM PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT DISCUSSION HAPPENING ON THE DOWNTOWN PLAN.
11:20:15AM THE DOWNTOWN PLAN WILL TAKE MONTHS.
11:20:19AM AND SOMETIMES IN 2024 WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH A ABOUT
11:20:22AM PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
11:20:23AM WE WILL DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO THEN.
11:20:26AM WE WOULDN'T DECIDE IN JULY WHETHER WE WANT TO GO FORWARD
11:20:29AM WITH IT OR NOT.
11:20:30AM BUT JUST FOR THE STAFF TO CREATE A MODEL OR OPTION THAT CAN
11:20:34AM BE DISCUSSED IN THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PROCESS.
11:20:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:20:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS WILL BE MY LAST CONVERSATION AND
11:20:44AM APOLOGIZE FOR TAKING SO MUCH TIME.
11:20:46AM BUT IN ORDER FOR ME TO VOTE FOR ANYTHING, YOU HAVE TO GO
11:20:51AM BACK IN HISTORY AND FIND OUT WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST SO WE
11:20:55AM CAN PLAN OUT WHERE WE ARE GOING IN THE FUTURE.
11:20:57AM IF I RECALL, LIKE -- LIKE THE ASTUTE COUNCILMEMBER VIERA
11:21:02AM SAID, SOME OF THIS MONEY HAS BEEN COMMITTED FOR THE NEXT --
11:21:06AM A LONG TIME ALREADY.
11:21:07AM YOU MENTIONED THE CONVENTION CENTER.
11:21:09AM YOU MENTIONED THE STRAZ CENTER.
11:21:12AM OTHER THINGS.
11:21:13AM THE MUSEUM.
11:21:14AM WE COMMITTED TO THOSE THINGS MONTHS AGO.
11:21:17AM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO TELL THEM NOW, WE CHANGED OUR MIND.
11:21:20AM A WAY?
11:21:21AM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE.
11:21:23AM I KNOW IT WAS BIG NUMBERS, BUT FOR ME TO DIGEST SOMETHING
11:21:27AM AND NOT REMEMBER THE TOTAL PACKAGE THEN WILL NOT BE THE BEST
11:21:30AM WAY FOR MYSELF OR THE CONSTITUENTS WE REPRESENT SAYING I DID
11:21:35AM THIS WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE AND WITHOUT
11:21:37AM UNDERSTANDING WHAT COMMITMENTS WE HAVE LAID OUT FOR THE
11:21:41AM EXTENSION OF THE FUND THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS
11:21:44AM YEAR CONTINUES TO GROW.
11:21:45AM LET'S GO BACK IN HISTORY.
11:21:48AM WHAT IS IT -- THERE WAS NO CRA 20 YEARS AGO.
11:21:52AM WE WON'T BE DISCUSSING IT TODAY.
11:21:58AM YOU HAVE THE SAME ROADS THAT WOULDN'T BE PAVED MORE THAN
11:22:03AM LIKELY.
11:22:03AM 191 PARKS.
11:22:05AM 92 CIVIC CENTERS.
11:22:09AM 12 SWIMMING POOLS WE TAKE CARE OF AND MORE AND MORE ON THAT
11:22:13AM THAT WE ADDRESS.
11:22:14AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE
11:22:17AM THAT A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY.
11:22:19AM NOT ONLY OF THIS, BUT WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO IN THE
11:22:24AM WHOLE CITY OF TAMPA THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AT.
11:22:27AM THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT HAD THE COSTS AND FUNDING ARE COMING
11:22:32AM FROM ON ALL THE ITEMS.
11:22:33AM I DON'T RUN MY HOUSE HOLD THIS WAY AND I SHOULDN'T RUN THE
11:22:37AM CITY THIS WAY EITHER.
11:22:39AM YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOUR EXPENSES, YOUR INCOME, AND HOW
11:22:46AM LONG YOU WILL LIVE TO PAY FOR THEM.
11:22:47AM CRAs HAVE A LIFESPAN AT THE BEGINNING AND THEY HAVE AN END.
11:22:51AM MY GRANDMOTHER SAID WHEN WE ARE BORN, WE HAVE AN EXPIRATION
11:22:55AM DATE, WE DON'T KNOW WHEN IT IS.
11:22:57AM SHE WAS RIGHT.
11:23:00AM THE CRA, WE KNOW WHAT THE EXPIRATION DATE IS.
11:23:02AM THESE ARE THE THINGS -- I AM NOT SUBJECT TO NOT MAKING A
11:23:06AM CHANGE, WHAT I AM LOOKING AT, I AM NOT JUST GOING TO GO
11:23:10AM HUNTING FOR A BEAR WHEN I REALLY SHOULD GO FISHING FOR FISH.
11:23:14AM THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND NEITHER DOES THIS.
11:23:16AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:23:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:23:21AM BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:23:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I LIKE THE IDEA OF -- OF EXPLORING AND
11:23:27AM LOOKING.
11:23:28AM NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
11:23:29AM BUT A PROPOSAL TO COME BACK, I THINK THAT KIND OF -- KIND OF
11:23:35AM PUSHING IT A LITTLE BIT.
11:23:36AM BUT I AGREE.
11:23:37AM LET'S LOOK AT WHAT THE COMMITMENTS ARE.
11:23:41AM THE LEGALITIES ARE, HOW MUCH WE OWE.
11:23:44AM HOW MUCH WE WILL PAY PEOPLE TOTALLY AGREE TO THAT.
11:23:53AM THE FEASIBILITY OF STUDYING IT.
11:23:55AM WHAT WE OWE, WHAT WE DON'T OWE AND LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD.
11:23:59AM WHAT 25% LOOKS LIKE.
11:24:01AM MAKE SURE WE CAN PAY THE BILLS, I THINK IT IS MORE
11:24:04AM ACCOMMODATING VERSUS A STRONG PROPOSAL, IN MY BEEN.
11:24:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:24:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN GUDES' COMMENTS.
11:24:14AM I HAD THOSE SAME THOUGHTS.
11:24:15AM I WROTE DOWN NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROPOSAL BUT TO
11:24:19AM PROCESS CONSEQUENCES AND FEASIBILITY.
11:24:21AM SO KIND OF ON BOARD THERE.
11:24:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:24:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PROPOSAL I MADE -- THE MOTION I MADE
11:24:30AM INCLUDED LOOKING AT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL JUST
11:24:33AM SAID.
11:24:33AM AND YOU ALL WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO GIVE INPUT TO THEM, TO THE
11:24:37AM STAFF IN THE MEANTIME AND TELL THEM WHAT YOU LIKE AND DON'T
11:24:40AM LIKE.
11:24:40AM CAN'T TELL US OUTSIDE OF MEETINGS WHAT YOU LIKE OR DON'T
11:24:44AM LIKE.
11:24:44AM YOU CAN GIVE US INPUT ON IT.
11:24:46AM AND LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS AND UNLESS A STAFF
11:24:53AM PERSON CALLS THE BUSINESS JOURNAL AND SAID I AM AGAINST
11:24:56AM DOWNTOWN.
11:24:56AM I AM NOT AGAINST DOWNTOWN.
11:24:58AM WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY DOWNTOWN AND HUGE INVESTMENTS IN THE
11:25:02AM LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
11:25:03AM IF THIS PROPOSAL -- 25%.
11:25:06AM THIS IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY.
11:25:09AM WE WILL HAVE MORE THAN THE 75% AND CONTINUE TO INVEST
11:25:15AM DOWNTOWN.
11:25:15AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT ABOUT DOWNTOWNS BUT ABOUT
11:25:18AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:25:18AM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS IS WE HAVE
11:25:21AM PEOPLE WORTH HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
11:25:26AM QUIETLY MOVED IN OUR AREA AND RUNNING MULTIBILLION DOLLAR,
11:25:31AM AND PARKS ARE FALLING APART AND POTHOLES IN STREETS AND THEY
11:25:37AM ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:25:39AM TO LIVE IN AND THEY ARE TELLING THEIR FRIEND WHEREVER THEY
11:25:42AM CAME FROM THAT THERE ARE THESE PROBLEMS.
11:25:44AM THAT WILL HURT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
11:25:47AM WE NEED TO LOOK AT MODERN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THAT
11:25:50AM INCLUDES ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:25:52AM BY THE WAY IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE 25% AS ALLOCATE AS A CITY
11:25:58AM COUNCIL.
11:25:58AM WE CAN DECIDE TO SPEND THAT DOWNTOWN EITHER.
11:26:01AM I SAY THAT CRA ARE FOR LAZY POLICYMAKERS.
11:26:06AM WE HAVE DISCRETION WHERE WE SPEND THE MONEY.
11:26:11AM IN AREAS WITH NO SLUM AND BLIGHT.
11:26:14AM DOWNTOWN WOULD NOT QUALIFY AS A CRA BASED ON THE CURRENT
11:26:20AM CONDITIONS.
11:26:20AM THIS IS DISCUSSING TAKING A SMALL AMOUNT OUT AND SPEND
11:26:27AM MONTHS OF FEEDBACK AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION WHAT WE
11:26:30AM WANT TO DO.
11:26:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:26:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS THE KEYWORD.
11:26:35AM I HEAR A PROPOSAL.
11:26:37AM I AM HEARING DISCUSSION.
11:26:38AM HAVING DISCUSSION.
11:26:40AM NOT DOING IN I OFFICIAL ACTION.
11:26:42AM LOOKING AT DATA AND GO FROM THERE.
11:26:46AM MY SECOND WILL STILL STAND.
11:26:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:26:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE DATA WILL BE THE SAME ASK FOR IT
11:26:55AM TODAY OR JULY.
11:26:56AM WHY DON'T WE JUST ASK FOR THE DATA.
11:26:58AM EARLIER IN THE MEETING.
11:27:00AM FOUR DISTRICTS IN THE CITY.
11:27:03AM FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN THAT WILL COMPRISE THE WHOLE CITY.
11:27:07AM TO GIVE A COMPLETE REVIEW ASIDE FROM THIS -- THIS IS CRA --
11:27:10AM TO PUT THE AMOUNT OF MONIES THAT THE CITY PUT IN FOUR
11:27:15AM DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT COMPREHENSIVE THE BIG CITY OF
11:27:17AM TAMPA.
11:27:17AM THEY ARE NOT LITTLE ANYMORE, FOUR DISTRICTS THAT EQUAL
11:27:22AM NUMBERS OF DISTRICT ONE, TWO AND THREE.
11:27:24AM I SAID THAT EARLIER WILL TELL YOU HOW MUCH MONEY WE PUT IN
11:27:27AM THE FOUR DISTRICTS, YOU WILL HAVE AN IDEA WHERE YOU ARE
11:27:30AM GOING AND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM.
11:27:31AM YOU START DOING WITH THIS, NOT PROPOSED TODAY BUT YEAR AFTER
11:27:35AM YEAR AFTER YEAR, THE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS.
11:27:38AM I AM NOT -- I AM NOT -- I AM NOT AFRAID TO SAY I HAVEN'T
11:27:43AM GOTTEN REELECTED.
11:27:44AM SOME OF YOU HAD, AND GOD BLESS YOU.
11:27:46AM BUT I AM NOT GOING TO TAKE A WHOOPING JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO
11:27:50AM GET ELECTED.
11:27:51AM I STAND BY MY GROUND AND WHAT I SAY I DON'T ACT ON NOTHING
11:27:55AM UNLESS I HAVE ALL THE FACTS.
11:27:57AM I DO NOT HAVE THE FACTS TODAY.
11:27:58AM I HAVE -- I HAVE IDEAS THAT ARE THERE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
11:28:03AM REDUCED TO NUMBERS.
11:28:04AM I DO NOT DO ANYTHING UNLESS I HAVE THE NUMBERS AND I DON'T
11:28:08AM HAVE THE NUMBERS TODAY.
11:28:09AM THANK YOU.
11:28:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: COUNCILWOMAN.
11:28:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER GUDES.
11:28:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THAT TONIGHT.
11:28:18AM I HOPE IN YOUR MOTION, YOU TALK ABOUT THE FOUR DISTRICTS.
11:28:22AM BUT WITHIN EACH DISTRICT, THERE ARE CERTAIN POCKETS THAT ARE
11:28:26AM GROWING VERSUS OTHER POCKETS THAT ARE NOT GROWING.
11:28:28AM THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED.
11:28:30AM YOU HAVE THE FOUR DISTRICTS.
11:28:32AM WITHIN THOSE DISTRICTS.
11:28:34AM WHAT AREA IN THE DISTRICT HAVE GROWN AND WHAT HAVE NOT
11:28:37AM GROWN.
11:28:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
11:28:40AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS VERY KEY.
11:28:41AM THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN.
11:28:44AM WE HAVE A MOTION -- YES, BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:28:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:28:47AM AND, AGAIN, I AM FINE FOR LOOKING AT A PROJECT.
11:28:53AM LOOKING AT A PROPOSAL ESPECIALLY FOR 25% WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE
11:28:59AM COMMITTED ALL THESE FUNDS AND MY RECOGNITION IS, I COULD BE
11:29:02AM WRONG.
11:29:02AM IN THE FINAL IT WAS AT LEAST PROJECTED IN THE FINAL YEAR OF
11:29:07AM STRAZ 35 OR 40%.
11:29:09AM THAT IS MY RECOLLECTION.
11:29:10AM I COULD BE WRONG.
11:29:11AM YOU PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER.
11:29:13AM WITH EVERY ASKING STAFF TO PUT UP VALUABLE TIME NOR A FORMAL
11:29:18AM PROPOSAL THAT MAY NOT GIVE THE DIVIDENDS, YOU KNOW WHAT I
11:29:21AM MEAN THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
11:29:22AM I WOULD VOTE FOR THIS IF IT IS PROCESS, CONSEQUENCES OR
11:29:26AM FEASIBILITY JUST PUTTING OUT THERE.
11:29:28AM BECAUSE, AGAIN, COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS WORKING THE ISSUE FOR
11:29:33AM A NUMBER OF YEARS AND I SALUTE THE VIGOR ON THAT.
11:29:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:29:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING IN THE MOTION.
11:29:44AM NOT MAKING A DECISION TODAY BUT ASKING THE STAFF TO COME
11:29:47AM BACK IN JULY TO PRESENT THEIR ANALYSIS OF IT.
11:29:49AM AND MAKE A SUGGESTION, A PROPOSAL, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
11:29:54AM IT WHAT MIGHT BE FEASIBILITY.
11:29:56AM IF -- FEASIBLE.
11:29:58AM IF WE DECIDE AT THAT POINT TO PUT IT IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT
11:30:02AM DISCUSSION IT WILL SPEND MONTH WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AND 2024
11:30:06AM DECIDE IF WE WANT TO DO THIS OR NOT.
11:30:09AM NOT DE DECIDING IT.
11:30:15AM ABOUT.
11:30:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS SOMETHING MAYBE I
11:30:19AM HEARD WRONG.
11:30:20AM 25% OF SOMETHING AND NOW JUST LOOK AT IT.
11:30:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: I CANCELLED THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
11:30:24AM I CHANGED IT.
11:30:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OH, YOU DID.
11:30:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU WANT --
11:30:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: RE-READ THE MOTION.
11:30:31AM >> TO COME BACK IN JULY FOR A MEETING JULY 20 TO PROPOSE AN
11:30:41AM OPTION TO REDUCE CRA FUNDING IN DOWNTOWN.
11:30:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I RESTATE IT SIMPLY.
11:30:49AM ASK STAFF TO ANALYZE THE POSSIBILITY OF CREATING AN OPTION
11:30:58AM TO REDUCE THE DOWNTOWN CRA MONEY BY 25% AND BRING THAT
11:31:05AM ANALYSIS BACK AT THE JULY CRA MEETING FOR DISCUSSION AND IF
11:31:19AM APPROVED AT THAT TIME THAT OPTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE
11:31:26AM DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT PLAN PROCESS TO GET PUBLIC INPUT ON
11:31:35AM IT SO WE CAN GET RESPONSE FROM THE PUBLIC IN 2024.
11:31:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO YOU STILL SECOND.
11:31:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SECOND.
11:31:49AM IT IS A DISCUSSION.
11:31:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WOULD LIKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION ON THE
11:31:54AM FLOOR.
11:31:54AM I WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF -- IF I MAY MADAM CHAIR -- TO COME
11:31:58AM BACK IN JULY LIKE MR. CARLSON ASKED TO BRING US THE NUMBERS
11:32:02AM THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED FOR THE YEARS TO COME WHEN THIS
11:32:07AM COUNCIL VOTED FOR VARIOUS THINGS WITHIN THE DISTRICT FOR
11:32:11AM THEIR ENHANCEMENT TO THE AREA AND FOR THE FUTURE THAT WE
11:32:17AM DID, BECAUSE WE MADE SOME ADVANCEMENT LIKE MR. VIERA CALLED
11:32:22AM THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE STRAZ, THE AQUARIUM, THE -- MAYBE
11:32:26AM NOT AQUARIUM YET, BUT I AM SURE THEY ARE GOING TO ASK.
11:32:31AM THE -- SO MANY THAT WE FUNDED THAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING TO
11:32:39AM THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM --
11:32:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID FOUR TIMES THAT IS INCLUDED IN MY
11:32:44AM MOTION.
11:32:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU PUT THAT 25%.
11:32:46AM AND I AM JUST SAYING THAT THAT 25% CAME BACK AND ALL I AM
11:32:50AM ASKING THEM TO DO IS TO TELL US THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE
11:32:58AM HAVE COMMITTED IF YOU HAVE NUMBERS.
11:32:59AM YOU KNOW NUMBERS BETTER THAN I DO, WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE AND
11:33:02AM HOW YOU COMMITTED AND HOW MUCH WE HAVE COMING IN THAT WE CAN
11:33:05AM PROJECT ALL OF THAT, SIR, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT
11:33:13AM PREVENTING WHAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO DO.
11:33:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN I MAKE A COMMENT.
11:33:16AM MAYBE THE MEDIATOR AT ME.
11:33:18AM I SEE THE MOTIONS ARE THE SAME EXCEPT YOU TAKE OUT THAT 25%.
11:33:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CORRECT.
11:33:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF THAT 25% IS TAKEN OUT WE GET A 7-0 VOTE.
11:33:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PURPOSE IS TO DO THE ANALYSIS AND TALK
11:33:34AM OF THE POSSIBILITY OF REDUCING IT.
11:33:35AM THE POINT IS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REDUCE IT.
11:33:38AM I ORIGINALLY SAID 25% TO 50%.
11:33:40AM I CHANGED IT TO JUST 25%.
11:33:43AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH ROBERT RULES NOW.
11:33:47AM IF HE -- IF THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION STANDS I WILL MAKE ANOTHER
11:33:50AM MOTION AFTER THAT AND SEE IF IT GOES UP AND DOWN.
11:33:52AM I THINK WE HAVE A -- WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE
11:33:55AM COMMUNITY TO BE GOOD CUSTODIANS OF THEIR MONEY.
11:34:01AM ASKING THE DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS OVER THE NEXT SIX MONTHS WHAT
11:34:05AM TO SPEND THE MONEY ON WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF REDUCING IT
11:34:09AM IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND RECKLESS.
11:34:11AM NOT THEIR MONEY BUT THE REST OF THE CITY'S MONEY INVESTING
11:34:15AM IN DOWNTOWN.
11:34:15AM THE REST OF THE CITY.
11:34:16AM WE HAVE TO KEEP ALL OF OUR COMMITMENTS.
11:34:19AM EVERY WE COMMITTED WE AGREED TO DO THAT.
11:34:22AM HANDSHAKE AGREEMENTS.
11:34:24AM NOTHING IS APPROVED UNLESS THE CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR
11:34:27AM APPROVE IT.
11:34:28AM WHAT WE NEED TO DO, HOW TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE IN THE
11:34:33AM COMMUNITY.
11:34:33AM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE NOT HAPPY THAT THEIR ROADS HAVE
11:34:36AM POTHOLES IN THEM.
11:34:37AM NOT HAPPY THERE AREN'T ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS.
11:34:39AM THEY ARE NOT HAPPY NOT ENOUGH FIRE RESCUE VEHICLES.
11:34:42AM OUR CHOICES ARE RAISE TAXES AND FIND MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.
11:34:46AM ALL THIS IS ASKING TO DO THE RESEARCH TO PUT SOMETHING
11:34:51AM TOGETHER TO GET FEED BACK ON IT.
11:34:55AM WE ARE NOT MAKING DECISION TO CUT IT NOW.
11:34:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. BURTON, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.
11:35:08AM WHEN DOES THIS PUBLIC INFORMATION GATHERING BEGIN.
11:35:12AM >>JEFF BURTON: THEY ARE SETTING THE DATES RIGHT NOW.
11:35:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE THEY EXPECTED WITHIN THIS TIME PERIOD TO
11:35:20AM GET THIS DONE?
11:35:21AM >>JEFF BURTON: YES, MA'AM.
11:35:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. BURTON, JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE,
11:35:28AM HOW FAR NORTH DOES THE DOWNTOWN CRA GO?
11:35:32AM >>JEFF BURTON: THE SOUTH SIDE OF 275 AND STOPS.
11:35:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I ALREADY HAVE MY OWN BEEN, BUT I AM ASKING
11:35:40AM YOUR BEEN FROM ZACK STREET TO 275 SOUTH, IS THERE STILL SLUM
11:35:45AM AND BLIGHT.
11:35:46AM >>JEFF BURTON: ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS DEFINITION, YES.
11:35:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: STILL IN NEED OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
11:35:55AM >> JEFF BURTON: IF IT IS BLIGHT IT IS IN NEED OF ECONOMIC
11:36:02AM REDEVELOPMENT.
11:36:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE BUS STATION IS CHANGING HANDS AND SOME
11:36:07AM DEVELOPMENT THERE.
11:36:08AM THE VERIZON BUILDING HAVE ALSO CHANGED HANDS.
11:36:11AM THERE.
11:36:11AM WE ARE GOING AS FAR EAST -- DOWNTOWN GOES AS FAR EAST AS
11:36:17AM UNION STATION, FURTHER?
11:36:19AM >> JEFF BURTON: THE BOUNDARY IS UNION STATION TO THE
11:36:23AM NORTHEAST.
11:36:24AM AND THEN IT GOES TO -- GOES TO MERIDIAN, ALL THE WAY DOWN.
11:36:31AM ALL THE WAY DOWN TO BENEFICIAL BRIDGE WHICH STAYS ON THE
11:36:36AM WEST SIDE OF BENEFICIAL BRIDGE.
11:36:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: STILL AREAS AROUND DOWNTOWN IN MY BEEN NEED
11:36:41AM HELP TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES ECONOMICALLY.
11:36:44AM THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
11:36:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:36:47AM SO I HAVE A -- I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
11:36:50AM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:36:52AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: HAS YOUR MOTION BEEN SECONDED?
11:36:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL SECOND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S MOTION.
11:37:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
11:37:05AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I BELIEVE THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION TAKE
11:37:08AM PRECEDENCE.
11:37:09AM WHAT I AM GATHERING WITH THE BOARD'S DISCUSSION YOU WOULD
11:37:12AM LIKE FOR STAFF AND LEGAL TO COME BACK WITH INFORMATION ABOUT
11:37:16AM WHAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO IN DOWNTOWN ALREADY, WHAT WOULD BE
11:37:19AM THE LEGAL PROCESS IF YOU WANTED TO REDUCE THE TIF FOR
11:37:23AM DOWNTOWN.
11:37:24AM YOU KNOW, WE -- I UNDERSTAND MR. CARLSON'S MOTION AND
11:37:31AM DEFINED PERCENTAGE OF 25%.
11:37:33AM PERHAPS -- I DON'T WANT TO PUT WORDS IN ANYONE'S MOUTH.
11:37:37AM BUT PERHAPS AFTER WE ARE ABLE TO GET ALL THE FACTS TOGETHER
11:37:40AM AND LOOK AT THE INFORMATION, WE CAN PRESENT OPTIONS FOR TO
11:37:44AM YOU CONSIDER ABOUT -- DIFFERENT OPTIONS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL
11:37:47AM REDUCTIONS, BUT NOT THAT PERCENTAGE OF A POINT IN TIME.
11:37:52AM JUST A THOUGHT.
11:37:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:37:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO TELL US WHAT WE HAVE
11:38:00AM ALREADY COMMITTED.
11:38:01AM IF THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION INCLUDES GIVING US INFORMATION
11:38:04AM ABOUT HOW WE COULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT GOING FORWARD, THEN I
11:38:08AM CAN SUPPORT IT BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY DOES THE SAME THING.
11:38:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, HERE, I'M GOING OUT OF THE BOX AND
11:38:16AM I APPRECIATE BEING IN THE A SQUARE TO GET OUT, BUT I AM NOT
11:38:20AM TRYING TO GET OUT.
11:38:21AM TIME TRYING TO FIX A SOLUTION THAT I BELIEVE NEEDS TO BE
11:38:24AM ADDRESSED.
11:38:25AM CERTAINLY THERE ARE NEEDS.
11:38:26AM AND I WASN'T AS KEEN AS MR. CITRO WAS IN SAYING THAT THERE
11:38:33AM ARE CERTAIN AREAS THAT STILL NEED ADDRESSING AND THEN THE
11:38:36AM POSSIBILITY OF EXTENDING IT FURTHER SO OTHER PARTS OF THE
11:38:39AM CITY CAN COME IN AND HAVE THE SAME BENEFIT.
11:38:42AM I DON'T WANT TO GO TO ALL THOSE AT ONCE.
11:38:44AM I WANT TO KNOW THE FIGURES THAT WE NEED TO HELP WHAT WE
11:38:50AM COMMITTED AND THE FIGURES WE THINK WE ARE GOING TO MAKE
11:38:54AM DURING THAT SAME TIME AND A DECISION BASED ON FACTS --
11:38:57AM FACTUAL NUMBERS.
11:38:58AM NOT TO SAY I WANT 15%, I HAVE NOTHING FOR PERCENTAGE.
11:39:03AM I AM SAYING BEFORE I VOTE FOR THE PUBLIC'S FATE.
11:39:08AM AND THE SAME ONES THAT I WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT, I AM NOT
11:39:12AM GOING TO MAKE AN AGREEMENT ON SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE THE
11:39:15AM FIGURES ON.
11:39:15AM WE DON'T HAVE A MEMORY FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, TWO MONTHS, THREE
11:39:19AM MONTHS.
11:39:19AM ALL THE FIGURES AND FACTS WE HAVE GIVEN AND EVERYTHING THAT
11:39:22AM NEEDS.
11:39:22AM WE DON'T KNOW THOSE FIGURES.
11:39:24AM FOR ME TO VOTE WITHOUT KNOWING THAT FIGURE.
11:39:28AM 25% OR 10%.
11:39:29AM NO NOT HOW I WAS TAUGHT AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
11:39:33AM YOU NEED TO KNOW THE FACTS AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING BEFORE YOU
11:39:38AM CAST A VOTE.
11:39:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE VOTE AND THEN I WILL DO MINE.
11:39:43AM >>JEFF BURTON: DIRECTORS HAVE ASKED STAFF TO COLLECT THIS
11:39:49AM INFORMATION.
11:39:50AM IF YOU ASK IN JULY, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO BRING THAT
11:39:52AM INFORMATION TO YOU.
11:39:53AM WE ARE ALREADY COLLECTING IT IN A VERY PROFOUND WAY FOR YOUR
11:39:57AM BENEFIT.
11:39:57AM FOR YOU TO MAKE DATA MACHINE DRIVEN DECISIONS.
11:40:01AM IT IS COMING ANYWAY.
11:40:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: DOES THAT MEAN WE DON'T NEED TO DO THE MOTION
11:40:06AM BECAUSE IT IS COMING?
11:40:08AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THE INFORMATION
11:40:11AM PRESENTED AT THE JULY MEETING I THINK THE MOTION SHOULD MOVE
11:40:13AM FORWARD.
11:40:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: A SUBSTITUTE MOTION OR A -- YEAH -- NOT A
11:40:18AM SUBSTITUTE.
11:40:19AM WE HAVE ANOTHER MOTION MADE BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:40:23AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CITRO.
11:40:26AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:40:28AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:40:30AM OKAY.
11:40:30AM MOTIONS PASSES.
11:40:31AM NOW WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARSON TO INCLUDE THE
11:40:36AM 25% WHEN LOOKING AT THAT.
11:40:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL LIKE TO MAKE THE SAME MOTION I MADE
11:40:42AM BEFORE AND REPLACE THE NUMBER 25% WITH OPTIONS TO REDUCE.
11:40:49AM AND TO THE PRESENTATION THAT MR. MIRANDA JUST PROPOSED.
11:40:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET ME MAKE SURE THERE IS A SECOND.
11:41:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL CERTAINLY BE IN FAVOR OF THAT IF I
11:41:05AM HAVE THE NUMBERS, ALL THE NUMBERS.
11:41:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: THEY WILL PRESENT IT.
11:41:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN JULY.
11:41:11AM I DON'T MIND SUPPORTING IT BUT I NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE
11:41:14AM NUMBERS ARE BEFORE I START DOING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT THE
11:41:17AM PROPER THING LEGALLY.
11:41:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: THEY WILL PRESENT WHAT YOU WANT AND RIGHT
11:41:22AM AFTER THIS, PRESENT THIS IF WE PASS THE MOTION.
11:41:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:41:26AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER CARSON.
11:41:29AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:41:33AM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:41:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:41:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:41:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:41:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:41:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:41:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:41:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:41:49AM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:41:58AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: HI.
11:42:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HI.
11:42:06AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO STAFF REPORTS.
11:42:08AM ITEM NUMBER 3.
11:42:09AM NEXT, WEST TAMPA.
11:42:11AM ITEM NUMBER 3.
11:42:14AM >>JESUS NINO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:42:19AM JESUS NINO, WEST TAMPA, DREW PARK, CAC MANAGER.
11:42:25AM IN WEST TAMPA, A LOT OF EXCITING THINGS ARE OCCURRING.
11:42:28AM ONE OF THE HE THINKS SIGHTING THINGS IS OUR RESIDENTIAL
11:42:31AM EXTERIOR GRANT PROGRAM.
11:42:32AM WE HAVEN'T REALLY GONE OUT THERE VERY BROADLY JUST YET AS
11:42:36AM FAR AS ADVERTISEMENT, BUT SO FAR THEY HAVE COMPLETED FOUR
11:42:39AM PROJECTS.
11:42:39AM WE HAVE CLOSED ON THEM.
11:42:40AM THAT MEANS WE HAVE ALREADY PAID OUT THE FUNDING.
11:42:45AM REPLACE ROOFS.
11:42:46AM WE HAVE TWO PICTURES HERE OF TWO OF THE HOMES THAT HAD NEW
11:42:50AM ROOFS REPLACED ON THEM AND EXPENDED UP TO $51,000.
11:42:55AM BASICALLY $52,000 TO STATE.
11:42:59AM COMMUNITY MEETINGS MAY 7 COMMUNITY FEST OUR WEST TAMPA CRA
11:43:04AM EVEN AT JULIAN B. LANE TO PROMOTE OUR PROGRAMS AND GRANT
11:43:11AM PROGRAMS.
11:43:11AM ON JUNE 1, A COMMUNITY EVENT AT THE MLK CENTER SPECIFICALLY
11:43:17AM FOR THIS GRANT PROGRAM TO WORK WITH HOMEOWNERS OUT THERE AND
11:43:21AM HELP THEM FILL OUT THEIR APPLICATIONS AND WE HOPE TO HAVE
11:43:24AM MANY, MANY EVENTS WITH OUR COMMUNICATION INDIVIDUALS TO
11:43:28AM START SPREADING THE WORD.
11:43:29AM WE KIND OF GOT ALL THE KINKS OUT FOR THE MOST PART.
11:43:33AM WE ARE HAPPY ABOUT THAT -- ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR GRANT.
11:43:37AM WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH AN ADDITIONAL AS WE SPEAK.
11:43:42AM TO HELP THEM WITH GRANT APPLICATIONS.
11:43:45AM OUR PARKING STUDY IS BASICALLY COMING TO A CONCLUSION PRETTY
11:43:54AM SOON.
11:43:54AM WE HAD OUR FINAL BASE -- HOPEFULLY OUR FINAL COMMUNITY
11:43:59AM MEETING MARCH 23, 2023 AT THE MLK COMPANY.
11:44:04AM WORKING WITH POND AND COMPANY AS CONSULTANT.
11:44:08AM THE CORRIDOR STORY IN 2020.
11:44:10AM THE FINDING IN THE STUDY TO DO A PARKING STUDY FOR THE MAIN
11:44:17AM AREA.
11:44:17AM AND ONCE WITHER DONE WITH THAT REPORT, WE WILL TAKE IT TO
11:44:20AM OUR CAC IN MAY.
11:44:23AM IF EVERYTHING GOES AS WELL, WE WILL BRING IT TO YOU FOR YOUR
11:44:26AM BLESSING BASICALLY, HOPEFULLY IN JULY OR AUCTION.
11:44:33AM THAT IS WEST TAMPA.
11:44:34AM ANY QUESTIONS?
11:44:35AM ORDINANCE MANISCALCO ANY QUESTIONS?
11:44:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:37AM >> GO OVER TO DREW PARK.
11:44:42AM IN DREW PARK, MANY EXCITING PROJECTS.
11:44:45AM MANY OF THEM THE STUDY PHASE.
11:44:47AM THIS IS WORKING WITH PLACE MAKER DESIGN STUDIOS TO COME UP
11:44:51AM WITH CONCEPTS AND PRICING ESTIMATES FOR THE IMPROVEMENT OF
11:44:56AM TAMPA BAY LINEAR.
11:44:57AM TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD, LINEAR PARK, AND ALSO POTENTIALLY A NEW
11:45:03AM COMMUNITY PARK ON HUBERT AVENUE.
11:45:08AM CONSULTANT HAD A FEW COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT HILLSBOROUGH
11:45:13AM COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
11:45:14AM NEXT STEPS FOR THEM TO PUT TOGETHER COST ESTIMATES THAT WE
11:45:18AM CAN USE FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES OR BASICALLY A CAC AND CRA
11:45:25AM WILL LOOK AT PROJECTS TO DO IN DREW PARK.
11:45:29AM THAT CONCLUDES THE REPORT.
11:45:30AM NIP QUESTIONS?
11:45:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:45:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:45:34AM IF I MAY ADD, THERE IS A LOCATION ABOUT ONE BLOCK WEST OF
11:45:41AM LOIS.
11:45:41AM I BELIEVE THE NAME OF THE STREET IS COOLIDGE AND TAMPA BAY
11:45:44AM BOULEVARD.
11:45:45AM USED TO BE AREA WHERE SEMIS WOULD COME IN AFTER DOING THEIR
11:45:52AM WEEKLY STAY THERE AND PARK THERE AND CLEANED OUT AND AN
11:45:55AM ACRE, TWO ACRES, THREE ACRE.
11:45:58AM A PRETTY BIG OPERATION.
11:45:59AM CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IS GOING THERE?
11:46:02AM DO YOU KNOW?
11:46:03AM I DO NOT.
11:46:03AM BUT I CAN FIND OUT FOR YOU.
11:46:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY ARE CLEARING IT OUT AND DOING THE
11:46:10AM ELEVATION AND WORK ON IT.
11:46:11AM A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY.
11:46:13AM ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE LOCAL ELECTRICAL WHOLE SALE
11:46:17AM COMPANY.
11:46:17AM A BEAUTIFUL LOCATION AND I HOPE SOMETHING NICE IS COMING.
11:46:20AM >> HOPEFULLY.
11:46:21AM WE WILL FIND OUT FOR YOU.
11:46:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:46:23AM NO?
11:46:24AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:46:25AM MR. McCRAY.
11:46:26AM INTERCOASTAL WATERWAY .
11:46:33AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD MORNING, CEDRIC McCRAY, EAST TAMPA CRA MANAGER.
11:46:39AM OKAY.
11:46:39AM FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS AN INITIATIVE WE
11:46:43AM PARTNERED WITH FIFTH THIRD BANK AND HABITAT FOR HUMANITY ON
11:46:48AM STAR STREET A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
11:46:50AM WE RECEIVED SEVERAL REQUESTS FOR EXTERIOR HOUSING REHAB.
11:46:54AM WE DIDN'T HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE AT THAT TIME.
11:46:56AM AND WE PARTNERED WITH FIFTH THIRD AND HABITAT FOR HUMANITY
11:47:05AM TO WORK WITH SEVERAL OF THE RESIDENTS.
11:47:07AM SEVERAL VOLUNTEERS THERE.
11:47:08AM COUNCILMAN GUDES CAME AND SPOKE TO THAT GROUP ASSEMBLED THAT
11:47:12AM MORNING.
11:47:13AM IT WAS VERY COOL THAT DAY.
11:47:15AM WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A POSITIVE EFFECT ON ONE BLOCK AND FOUR
11:47:18AM OR FIVE HOMES HAVE RECEIVED SOME ATTENTION SINCE THEN.
11:47:22AM SO -- SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
11:47:25AM THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY UPDATE WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING
11:47:30AM COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY 13.
11:47:31AM AND IT WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, I BELIEVE,
11:47:37AM SOME TIME IN MAY OR JUNE FOR YOUR RATIFICATION.
11:47:41AM TREE TRIMMING UPDATE.
11:47:42AM WE HELD A MEETING WITH THE VENDORS ON FEBRUARY 17, JUST AS A
11:47:47AM YEARLY OR ANNUAL TOUCH BASE ON SOME OF THE PROGRAMS,
11:47:50AM SUCCESSES, FAILURES, CHALLENGES, AND GET ANOTHER VIEWPOINT
11:47:54AM ON SOME 679 THINGS AND HOW TO IMPROVE AND OPEN THE LINES OF
11:47:57AM COMMUNICATION EVEN BETTER EXPEDITE PAYMENT.
11:48:06AM EAST INDUSTRIAL WORKSHOP WERE INVITED TO SPEAK TO A GROUP OF
11:48:10AM BUSINESS OWNERS ALONG COLUMBUS DRIVE, GOING EAST OF 34th
11:48:14AM TOWARD 50th STREET.
11:48:15AM SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE DISCUSSED WERE REVOLVING AROUND
11:48:19AM SOME OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA GRANT PROGRAMS SUCH AS FACADE AND
11:48:24AM THE LIKE AND EXPANDING THOSE PROGRAMS BECAUSE THOSE BUSINESS
11:48:27AM OWNERS HAVE SUCH LARGE PARCELS.
11:48:29AM $50,000 MATCH MAY NOT GO AS LONG -- GO AS LONG AS THE
11:48:34AM AMOUNTS WILL INCREASE.
11:48:35AM THOSE CONVERSATIONS ARE ONGOING.
11:48:37AM THE EMERGENCY ROOFING PROGRAM.
11:48:39AM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR APPROVAL SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
11:48:42AM WE COMPLETED UP TO 41 ROOFS.
11:48:44AM AND HAVE ANOTHER VENDOR THAT WE ARE GOING ON BOARD TO HELP
11:48:48AM WITH THAT WORK.
11:48:49AM AND THAT WAS AS OF APRIL 12.
11:48:52AM HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH CITYWIDE MOBILITY PLANS AND TAMPA
11:48:59AM MOVES.
11:49:00AM THERE IS GOING TO BE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TACKING PLACE DURING
11:49:04AM THE EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP MEET INFORMATION THE MONTHS TO
11:49:06AM COME.
11:49:07AM SUBCOMMITTEES ARE MEETING REGULARLY.
11:49:09AM WE HAVE FILLED -- I AM HAPPY TO SAY WE FILLED THE OSS 3
11:49:14AM POSITION THAT WAS VACATED BY MISS HUGHES LAST SUMMER.
11:49:18AM AND LOOKING FORWARD TO ON-BOARDING THAT INDIVIDUAL HERE VERY
11:49:22AM SOON.
11:49:22AM FDOT, EAST TAMPA STREETSCAPE MEETINGS ARE GOING ON AND WE
11:49:27AM HAVE HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS OF SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT
11:49:30AM RESIDENTS HAVE ALONG HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND IF MARTIN
11:49:35AM LUTHER KING, JR. AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL BE ONGOING.
11:49:37AM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE EDUCATION FAIR TAKING PLACE IN
11:49:45AM MIDDLETON HIGH SCHOOL.
11:49:47AM IF I DON'T OUR CHAIR FRAN TATE WILL BE E-MAILING ME APRIL 29
11:49:53AM FROM 10 A.M. TO 2 P.M. AND THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO COME OUT
11:49:57AM AND PARTICIPATE AND LEARN MORE OF THE CRAS AND HEALTH
11:50:00AM CHECK-UPS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TAKING CARE OF OUR
11:50:03AM BODIES.
11:50:03AM PUBLIC COMMITTEE OF THE EAST TAMPA CRA LOOKING FOR MOBILITY
11:50:09AM AND THE PUBLIC ART DEPARTMENT.
11:50:10AM MAY 13, WE SCHEDULED TO DO A CROSSWALK IN CONVERSATION WITH
11:50:16AM MOBILITY OF SOME OF THE THOROUGHFARES IN EAST TAMPA THAT HAD
11:50:22AM TRAFFIC INCIDENTS AND FATALITIES.
11:50:23AM 34 CAYUGA AND POTTER AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE DOING A CROSSWALK
11:50:38AM THERE AND WILL HAVE SOME OTHER EVENTS COMING ON IN THE
11:50:40AM FUTURE.
11:50:41AM THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
11:50:42AM ANY QUESTIONS?
11:50:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:50:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WAS THERE A RECENT MEETING WITH ALL THE
11:50:52AM CONTRACTORS?
11:50:53AM >> WHICH CONTRACTORS WERE YOU --
11:50:55AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK FOR HOUSING REHAB.
11:50:57AM >> NO.
11:50:58AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL THE CONTRACTORS THAT -- SO THEY ARE
11:51:06AM READY TO DO WORK IN THE CITY PART OF THE JOBS PROGRAM.
11:51:09AM IS THAT --
11:51:11AM >> THERE WAS A MEETING THAT WAS FACILITATED BY PROCUREMENT.
11:51:15AM THAT WAS NOT OUR MEETING.
11:51:16AM YES.
11:51:17AM IT WAS TO -- IT WAS TO OPEN UP DISCUSSIONS AND JUST KIND OF
11:51:22AM TALK ABOUT THE JOB PROGRAM ITSELF.
11:51:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION HE WERE MOVING
11:51:28AM FORWARD WITH THE JOB PROGRAM TO HELP WITH THE OWNER-OCCUPIED
11:51:31AM REHAB TO GET SOME OF THE STUFF MOVING.
11:51:33AM WE ARE NOT THERE YET?
11:51:37AM >> YES, WE WERE SLATED TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION IN APRIL.
11:51:39AM THE HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE CHAIRPERSON WAS OUT OF TOWN AND
11:51:43AM WILL BE BRINGING THAT TO THE CAC IN MAY.
11:51:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:51:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:51:49AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT PROGRAM -- I THINK -- I THINK SINCE WE
11:51:52AM ALREADY HAVE ALL THESE ON BOARD WITH THE CITY THAT THE JOB
11:51:55AM PROGRAM -- I BELIEVE IT CAN MOVE FASTER WITH THOSE
11:51:59AM INDIVIDUALS PAUSE THERE ARE MORE OF THEM.
11:52:01AM IT INVOLVES OTHER CRITERIA AND CAN MOVE.
11:52:04AM THAT WITH AS A BIG WIN.
11:52:06AM I AM HOPING A BIG WIN TO PUSH THIS STUFF OUT.
11:52:09AM MONEY.
11:52:10AM SO THOSE WHO SAY WE DON'T HAVE MONEY, WE NEED TO GET IT
11:52:13AM GOING AND 23409 WORRY ABOUT ACD.
11:52:16AM AND WORRY HOW WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUSH THE MONEY WE
11:52:20AM HAVE AND LOOK AT THE CRITERIA.
11:52:21AM I BELIEVE TO -- TO MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT FASTER.
11:52:28AM TO MOVE THAT CRITERIA A LITTLE BIT AND WORK ON SOME OF THESE
11:52:32AM HOUSES.
11:52:33AM >> YES, SIR.
11:52:33AM THE BIGGEST THING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE IN LINE WITH THE
11:52:36AM PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
11:52:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS THE PROBLEM TOO.
11:52:39AM THAT HAS BEEN THE PROBLEM.
11:52:40AM OKAY, ALL RIGHT.
11:52:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:52:43AM YES, SIR.
11:52:44AM YES, MA'AM.
11:52:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, COURTNEY ORR, YBOR CITY DEVELOPMENT
11:52:55AM MANAGER.
11:52:56AM I HAVE A VARIETY OF ITEMS LISTED HERE BUT IN THE INTEREST OF
11:52:59AM TIME, I WILL HIGHLIGHT THESE.
11:53:01AM THE ARCHWAY LIGHT PROJECT THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT OVER A DECADE
11:53:06AM IS FINALLY COMPLETED AND WE ARE CELEBRATING IT WITH A BANNER
11:53:10AM DROPPING.
11:53:10AM PLACE THE BANNER ACROSS THE STREET ACROSS ONE OF THE
11:53:14AM ARCHWAYS AND DROP THAT BANNER LAND HAVE THE PARTNERSHIP
11:53:18AM LOGOS WITH THE NEW CRA LOGO ON IT.
11:53:20AM THAT TAKES PLACE NEXT WEDNESDAY AT 11 A.M.
11:53:23AM IF YOU CAN ATTEND, PLEASE DO.
11:53:25AM THEN IN -- WITH REGARDS TO THE CENTENNIAL PARK RFQ ISSUED.
11:53:31AM WE RECEIVED SIX STRONG RESPONSES.
11:53:34AM SO THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO SHORT LIST SIX DOWN TO
11:53:38AM POSSIBLY TWO OR THREE DECIDED TO ACTUALLY INTERVIEW ALL SIX
11:53:41AM RESPONSES.
11:53:42AM THEY ARE CONSULTANTS THAT RESPOND TO THAT RFQ.
11:53:48AM AN INTERVIEW OF ALL SIX ON MAY 2.
11:53:50AM THEN IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THE NEW MURAL
11:53:55AM LOCATED AT THE YBOR CRA OFFICE BUILDING 2715 EAST 7th
11:54:03AM AVENUE.
11:54:03AM PLEASE DO.
11:54:04AM A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU CAN CELEBRATE HISTORY WITH ART.
11:54:08AM SO SING WE CAN SEE A LOT MORE OF THAT IN YBOR.
11:54:11AM TO ME, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE PERFECT SENSE IN YBOR.
11:54:15AM THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
11:54:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE ONE QUICK COMMENT.
11:54:19AM IN CENTENNIAL PARK BY THE IMMIGRANT STATUE, SIGNS UP, UNITED
11:54:28AM STATES STATE OF FLORIDA FLAG.
11:54:29AM THEY ARE TATTERED.
11:54:30AM ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT AND WILL THEY BE REPLACING THAT?
11:54:33AM >>COURTNEY ORR: PARKS -- I WILL MAKE A NOTE.
11:54:36AM WHEN WE SEE THE SITUATIONS WITH BAD WEATHER AND WIND, THEY
11:54:39AM WILL REPLACE THEM FOR US.
11:54:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:42AM ANYBODY ELSE?
11:54:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:45AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:54:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
11:54:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. INCOME CRAY, I HAVE MAILS.
11:54:55AM JOB IF MISS HILL HAVE THEM OR NOT, THEY SENT SEVERAL E-MAILS
11:55:01AM IN REFERENCE TO A TREE -- C.T. CAN PROBABLY SEND YOU THAT
11:55:06AM E-MAIL.
11:55:06AM AT THAT TREE INSIDE OF MEMORIAL PARK THAT IS -- I GUESS
11:55:09AM FALLEN OVER OR ABOUT TO FALL -- ABOUT TO FALL OVER.
11:55:12AM AND IT IS UPROOTING SOME OF THE -- STONES.
11:55:19AM THE HEADSTONES.
11:55:21AM GIVE YOU THAT.
11:55:24AM AND MAYBE HILLS HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO IT YET.
11:55:27AM BUT WE WANT TO LOOK AT THAT.
11:55:28AM >> NORMALLY -- THAT HAPPENED LAST SUMMER AND BROUGHT TO MY
11:55:32AM ATTENTION OF COPELAND-MILLER IN AN AREA WHERE HER FAMILY IS
11:55:37AM LOCATED BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSIONS.
11:55:40AM IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
11:55:42AM PARKS AND RECREATION -- TO CALL PARKS AND RECREATION TO DO
11:55:45AM THE WORK.
11:55:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: PRIVATE PROPERTY NOW.
11:55:47AM MISS AILEEN HENDERSON SENT IT TO US.
11:55:51AM I TALKED TO HER EARLIER.
11:55:52AM PRIVATE PROPERTY.
11:55:54AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GO AND DO ANYTHING ON IT.
11:55:56AM BUT WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
11:55:59AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
11:56:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:56:01AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GO ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
11:56:03AM CRA BOARD, WE ARE ASKING THAT WE TAKE ITEMS 5, 6 AND 10
11:56:16AM TOGETHER.
11:56:16AM THEY ARE ALL INTERRELATED TO THE SERVICES AGREEMENT.
11:56:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:56:21AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THE SERVICES AGREEMENT YOU WERE PROVIDED A
11:56:25AM SUBSTITUTION FROM MR. MASSEY YESTERDAY THAT WAS ONLY THE
11:56:30AM TABLE IN THE SUB I DID -- SUBSTITUTION WAS CHANGED.
11:56:37AM IT IS VERY SIMILAR IN STRUCTURE TO WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE
11:56:41AM PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
11:56:42AM THERE HAVE BEEN THREE -- THERE ARE THREE CHANGES I WANT TO
11:56:46AM POINT OUT TO YOU.
11:56:47AM UNDER ARTICLE III WHERE IT TALKS, ARTICLE III, SECTION A,
11:56:52AM TALKS OF CRA DIRECTOR AND STAFF.
11:56:55AM THE CHANGE THAT WAS MADE IN THIS AREA REALLY ALIGNS TO THE
11:57:01AM DIRECTION YOU HAVE SET IN THE RESTRUCTURING OF THE CRA PLUS
11:57:04AM THE POSITIONS THAT WE REQUESTED.
11:57:06AM THIS -- EXCUSE ME.
11:57:10AM THIS CHANGE ALSO INCLUDES FOUR FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT
11:57:16AM POSITIONS EXCLUSIVELY MANAGING HOUSING PROGRAMS WITHIN THE
11:57:19AM CRAs AND ONE ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME POSITION TO MANAGE ART
11:57:24AM PROGRAMS IN PRESIDENT CRA.
11:57:25AM THESE ARE A TOTAL OF FIVE POSITIONS THAT WILL BE ACCOUNTED
11:57:29AM FOR IN THE AMENDMENT TO THE CRA BUDGET.
11:57:31AM ADDITIONALLY, IN THIS SERVICES AGREEMENT, THE LAST SERVICE
11:57:37AM AGREEMENT WENT ON UNTIL 2022.
11:57:40AM THIS SERVICE AGREEMENT, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT YOU TAKE IT
11:57:46AM BACK TO OCTOBER 1, 2022.
11:57:48AM INSTEAD OF US COMING BACK TO YOU IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR FOR
11:57:52AM ANOTHER SERVICES AGREEMENT, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO TAKE IT OUT
11:57:55AM UNTIL THE END OF 2024.
11:57:58AM FISCAL YEAR 2024.
11:58:01AM IN SECTION B OF ARTICLE III, THE COMPENSATION PIECE.
11:58:05AM THIS IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT -- ABOUT THE CHANGES TO -- IF
11:58:10AM THERE IS AFTER A VACANCY IN THE CRA POSITION, THE CITY WILL
11:58:14AM PROVIDE AN INTERIM CRA DIRECT.
11:58:18AM THIS THIS SECTION, THE CRA BOARD -- THE CRA AS AN AGENCY
11:58:23AM WILL REIMBURSE FOR THOSE COSTS.
11:58:25AM IT ALSO ADDRESSES THE COMPENSATION OF -- OF INTERIM OR IF
11:58:31AM SOME KIND OF COMPENSATION FOR THE ADMINISTRATOR AND DEPUTY
11:58:36AM ADMINISTRATOR TO BE SERVING IN THIS ROLE.
11:58:38AM IT ADDRESSES THAT PURSUANT TO CHANGES IN THE PERSONNEL
11:58:41AM MANUAL AS REQUESTED.
11:58:43AM AND THEN FINALLY THE LAST CHANGE TO THE SERVICES AGREEMENT
11:58:46AM IS UNDER PAYMENTS, A WHICH IS ARTICLE 4.
11:58:51AM THIS IS THE BIGGEST CHANGE.
11:58:52AM THIS RESTRUCTURE THAT WE ARE -- THAT I PROPOSED TO YOU GUYS
11:58:56AM IS TO HAVE NOT CRA STAFF BEING GEOGRAPHICALLY ONLY WORKING
11:59:01AM IN ONE AREA.
11:59:01AM THEY WILL WORK WITH ALL DISTRICTS BASED ON NEED USING THEIR
11:59:06AM SPECIALTIES THEY HAVE.
11:59:08AM AND THE WAY WE ARE DOING THAT IS -- DURING THE EXPENSE
11:59:12AM ALLOCATION BY PARSE DAMAGE IN EACH CRA DISTRICT.
11:59:17AM YOU LOOK AT THAT TABLE YOU NOTICE THE DIFFERENT PERCENTAGES
11:59:20AM FOR EACH ONE OF THE CRA DISTRICTS AND HOW THEY WILL BE
11:59:24AM ALLOCATED.
11:59:25AM I DID A 2022 ANALYSIS USING THAT PERCENTAGE JUST TO SEE
11:59:27AM WHAT THE NUMBERS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
11:59:30AM THE NUMBERS MOSTLY FOR THE MOST PART ARE THE SAME, AND I
11:59:34AM WILL PUT ON THE ELMO.
11:59:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO AS YOU ARE SPEAKING, THE ONE WE VOTE
11:59:43AM ON IS ITEM 10 FOR THE SERVICES AGREEMENT, AND YOU ARE
11:59:45AM DISCUSSING ITEM 6, CORRECT?
11:59:48AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: 5 AND 6, YES.
11:59:51AM 5 AND 6 IS ADDRESSED IN THE SERVICES MEMO.
11:59:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A QUESTION.
12:00:03PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SURE. I JUST WANTED TO DO THE
12:00:05PM PRESENTATION AND THEN WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS, I MEAN DISCUSS
12:00:07PM IT.
12:00:08PM SO ITEM 5, THE ARTS POSITION AND THE STAFFING, THAT'S
12:00:11PM INCLUDED IN THE SERVICES AGREEMENT.
12:00:14PM ITEM NUMBER 6 IS TAKEN CARE OF THROUGH THE SERVICES
12:00:17PM AGREEMENT, AND NUMBER 10 IS THE SERVICES AGREEMENT.
12:00:19PM SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THE ELMO, I WAS JUST TALKING TO YOU ABOUT
12:00:22PM THE CHART THAT SHOWS THE ALLOCATION, EXPENSE ALLOCATION, AND
12:00:29PM WHAT IT'S BROKEN DOWN INTO BY THE SIZE OF THE TIF INCREMENT.
12:00:33PM AND SO IN 2022 THE EXPENSES THAT WERE MADE FOR SALARY WAS
12:00:40PM $312,000.
12:00:42PM WITH THIS JUDGMENT IT'S DOING IT BASED ON THAT PERCENTAGE.
12:00:45PM THE PROPOSED REIMBURSEMENT FOR 2022 WOULD HAVE BEEN 339,000.
12:00:50PM JUST SHOWING YOU THAT IT WENT UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT A
12:00:54PM LOT.
12:00:56PM CENTRAL PARK WOULD HAVE GONE UP, BUT THE BIGGEST CHANGE
12:01:00PM WOULD BE TO THE DOWNTOWN NON-CORE WITH THEIR PERCENTAGE.
12:01:05PM THE OTHER DISTRICTS, THEY WENT UP SLIGHTLY.
12:01:10PM SOME OF THEM WENT DOWN.
12:01:11PM SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN HOW WE ARE DOING CALCULATION.
12:01:16PM BUT THE BENEFITS TO THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH
12:01:19PM THIS RESTRUCTURING IS HAVING THE BENEFIT OF ALL THE CRA
12:01:22PM STAFF WORKING IN WHERE THE NEED IS, WORKING ON ALL THE
12:01:27PM DIRECTS OF THE SO THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO TAKE CARE OF IT.
12:01:30PM THANK YOU.
12:01:31PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
12:01:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER GUDES THEN CARLSON.
12:01:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WANT TO GO TO 6, THE MEMO OF MR.
12:01:41PM BENNETT, AND MR. DRUMGO AND MS. TRAVIS.
12:01:45PM AND I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, THE COMPENSATION,
12:01:51PM AND THE NUMBERS WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT THE DIRECTOR IS
12:01:55PM CURRENTLY MAKING THEN, AND THAT PERSON RESIGNED TO NOW, I AM
12:02:00PM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, COME UP WITH
12:02:03PM PROPER COMPENSATION.
12:02:04PM SO I DON'T KNOW IF MR. BENNETT IS GOING TO COME AND EXPLAIN
12:02:09PM THAT BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE BOTH OF YOU ARE PROPERLY
12:02:12PM COMPENSATED AND NOT JUST SAY HERE IS A BLANK NUMBER HERE AND
12:02:17PM IT DOESN'T COME UP TO THE STANDARD I FEEL THAT YOU SHOULD BE
12:02:20PM COMPENSATED.
12:02:21PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS.
12:02:25PM UNDER THE COMPENSATION SECTION OF THE SERVICES AGREEMENT, IT
12:02:29PM GIVES THE CHIEF OF STAFF THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE ANY
12:02:35PM ADJUSTMENTS FOR COMPENSATION ACCORDING TO THE PERSONNEL
12:02:38PM MANUAL.
12:02:39PM SO IN HIS DISCRETION HE DID MAKE THAT.
12:02:42PM WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR, I BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR
12:02:44PM IS IF A POSITION WAS VACANT AT $165,000 FOR A FULL YEAR, YOU
12:02:50PM ARE SUGGESTING TO SPLIT THAT 165,000-DOLLAR AS COMPENSATION
12:02:56PM FOR THE TWO OF US, AND RESPECTFULLY I THANK YOU, I
12:02:59PM APPRECIATE THAT, BUT WHAT THAT WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT WE WERE
12:03:03PM DEDICATING 100% OF OUR TIME WITHOUT BEING DIVIDED TO DOING
12:03:08PM THAT POSITION AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
12:03:11PM WE ARE NOT DEDICATING 100% OF OUR TIME BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO
12:03:19PM BALANCING THE OTHER TITLE AND RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE HAVE.
12:03:23PM SO THAT WOULD NOT BE FAIR TO DO.
12:03:28PM THAT'S NOT AN EQUITABLE WAY TO DO THAT.
12:03:31PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.
12:03:33PM WHAT I AM SAYING IS, FROM THE TIME YOU AND MR. DRUMGO TOOK
12:03:38PM THE POSITION UNTIL NOW, WHATEVER CITY TIME THAT YOU DID CITY
12:03:44PM BUSINESS OR CRA BUSINESS, I WANT TO KNOW THAT TO MAKE SURE
12:03:47PM YOU ARE GETTING THE MONEY, THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT.
12:03:50PM I THINK THE -- WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO GET FOR THIS PARTICULAR
12:03:58PM ASSIGNMENT SUBTRACTING WHATEVER CITY TIME, AND NOW WE SAY
12:04:01PM THIS IS THE MONEY SPLIT BETWEEN YOU AND MR. DRUMGO.
12:04:04PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: A COUPLE THINGS.
12:04:06PM AND MR. BENNETT HAD A CONFLICT SO HE'S NOT HERE TODAY, AND I
12:04:10PM CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT FIGURE, BUT A COUPLE THINGS.
12:04:12PM WE DON'T -- THEY DON'T KEEP TIME BASED UPON WHEN THEY ARE
12:04:19PM DOING THEIR CITY JOB OR THEIR CRA JOBS SO THERE'S NO
12:04:22PM TRACKING OF THAT INTERNALLY IN OUR SYSTEM.
12:04:27PM WHAT THIS AGREEMENT, THE SERVICES AGREEMENT ALLOWS IS FOR A
12:04:31PM SUPPLEMENT OR A BONUS OR AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT, AND MRS.
12:04:37PM TRAVIS AND MR. DRUMGO WERE PROVIDING SERVICES TO THE CRA
12:04:40PM BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING THIS JOB ON TOP OF THEIR OTHER JOB.
12:04:44PM WHAT IS ALSO OCCURRED AT THE SAME TIME IS HAS BEEN A CHANGE
12:04:48PM IN PERSONNEL MANUAL WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE CHIEF OF STAFF TO
12:04:52PM PAY MORE THAN THE 4% CAP, SO HE HAS GOT A FIGURE THAT'S MORE
12:04:59PM THAN 4%, I BELIEVE, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT THAT
12:05:03PM IS.
12:05:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT SAYS DIRECTOR ANSWERS TO THE CRA BOARD,
12:05:12PM CORRECT?
12:05:14PM SO WHO, IN THAT CASE, WHO SETS THE DIRECTOR'S SALARY?
12:05:18PM IS IT PERSONNEL?
12:05:21PM THE PERSONNEL JUST LIKE CITY COUNCIL, SHOULD BE CITY COUNCIL
12:05:26PM ATTORNEY.
12:05:27PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IT'S PARTICULARLY SET IN THE BUDGET THAT
12:05:30PM YOU APPROVE WITH THE CRA WHAT THAT SALARY WILL BE.
12:05:32PM BUT WE ARE IN A BIT OF A STRANGE SITUATION FOR A WHILE NOW
12:05:37PM WHERE YOU DO HAVE A CRA DIRECTOR POSITION THERE, BUT IT HAS
12:05:40PM BEEN EMPTY.
12:05:41PM AND SO YOU HAVE HAD MS. TRAVIS AND MR. DRUMGO FILLING THAT
12:05:46PM IN ON AN INTERIM BASIS.
12:05:48PM NOW, IS THAT ENTIRE AMOUNT GOING TO BE PAID OVER TO THEM
12:05:51PM UNDER THIS?
12:05:51PM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE.
12:05:53PM YOU HAVE TO ASK MR. BENNETT EXACTLY WHAT -- IF HE HAS A
12:05:58PM FIGURE IN MIND TO SUPPLEMENT, I THINK, AND IT'S DEFINITELY
12:06:02PM MORE THAN 4%.
12:06:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW.
12:06:06PM IRREGARDLESS, IF THEY DID CITY WORK AND CRA WORK,
12:06:10PM IRREGARDLESS OF THAT, IT SHOULD BE -- IRREGARDLESS OF WHAT
12:06:14PM YOU SAY -- BECAUSE THEIR TIME IS NOT CALCULATED AS A CITY
12:06:19PM EMPLOYEE.
12:06:20PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE, THESE FOLKS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
12:06:23PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: AND I BELIEVE YOU WILL GET A SUPPLEMENT TO
12:06:24PM RECOGNIZE THEIR ADDITIONAL SERVICES THAT GOES ABOVE WHAT
12:06:28PM TYPICALLY YOU WOULD GET TO RECOGNIZE SUPPLEMENTAL SERVICES.
12:06:32PM I THINK THAT'S THE INTENT.
12:06:33PM BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T BREAK UP OUR TIME THAT WAY, AND I THINK
12:06:37PM FOR MR. BENNETT'S PERSPECTIVE, AND I DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK FOR
12:06:41PM HIM, THE TIME THEY SPENT ON THE CRA BOARD IS AWAY FROM THE
12:06:44PM TIME THEY WOULD BE INTEND SPENDING ON THEIR OTHER CITY
12:06:47PM POSITIONS.
12:06:47PM SO HE RECOGNIZES THAT THEY ARE DOING MORE AND THERE NEEDS TO
12:06:50PM BE A SUPPLEMENT PAID TO THEM TO ADDRESS THAT THEY ARE DOING
12:06:54PM MORE, BUT THIS GIVES THEM 165,000 --
12:07:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM JUST SAYING.
12:07:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:07:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:07:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT GOING TO ASK YOU FOR A SPECIFIC
12:07:22PM NUMBER BETWEEN THE THREE OF YOU, YOURSELF, AND MR. BENNETT,
12:07:28PM HAVE YOU ALL COME TO AN UNDERSTANDING WITH MR. BENNETT?
12:07:31PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, SIR.
12:07:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THAT NUMBER,
12:07:34PM WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS?
12:07:36PM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE
12:07:38PM IN THE FRONT OF ME.
12:07:40PM AM I SAYING YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH IT?
12:07:44PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I WOULD LIKE TO PUT THIS TO BED, YES.
12:07:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO GET TO THE CHASE.
12:07:51PM IS MR. DRUMGO ALSO SATISFIED?
12:07:55PM YOU ARE SATISFIED.
12:07:55PM SO THERE SHOULD BE NO MORE DISCUSSION.
12:07:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
12:08:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION THEN.
12:08:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.
12:08:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW THAT BOARD MEMBERS GUDES HAS WORKED
12:08:14PM HARD ON THIS AND PUSHED HARD FOR IT.
12:08:21PM I SUGGEST TWO THINGS THAT WE DO, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO
12:08:27PM SOMETHING TODAY.
12:08:28PM I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU MAKE A MOTION, PICK A DOLLAR THAT
12:08:31PM YOU THINK THE TWO OF THEM SHOULD SHARE, MAKE A MOTION THAT
12:08:34PM WE ASK CHIEF BENNETT TO CONSIDER THAT NUMBER TO EQUITABLY
12:08:39PM DIDN'T TO THE TWO, AND THEN BY THE CURRENT AGREEMENT HE CAN
12:08:42PM MAKE THAT MIND BUT THAT'S AT LEAST ONE MORE HAIL MARY.
12:08:48PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE EITHER BUT IT MIGHT BE A
12:08:50PM BIGGER NUMBER THAN WHAT'S THERE.
12:08:52PM THE SECOND THING IS, I THINK WE OUGHT TO -- I DON'T KNOW IF
12:08:56PM I CAN DO THIS OR WAIT TILL AFTER WE APPROVE THE AGREEMENT
12:08:59PM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CREATE AN ADDENDUM THAT
12:09:03PM ENABLES THE CRA BOARD TO ISSUE BONUSES TO THE CRA STAFF.
12:09:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:09:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO I HAVE A SECOND OR NOT?
12:09:20PM I MOVE THAT -- TO ASK STAFF TO COME BACK IN THE JULY MEETING
12:09:26PM TO PRESENT A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT FOR APPROVAL
12:09:34PM THAT WOULD ENABLE THE CRA BOARD TO ISSUE BONUSES TO CRA
12:09:38PM STAFF.
12:09:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
12:09:43PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I WOULD CAUTION YOU ON THIS, THEY ARE CRA
12:09:45PM STAFF, THEY ARE CITY EMPLOYEES, SO THEY ARE SUBJECT TO THE
12:09:48PM POLICIES OF PERSONNEL MANUALS, SO ALL OF THAT REALLY IS
12:09:52PM COVERED IN THE CITY PERSONNEL MANUAL.
12:09:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS WE SAID FOUR YEARS AGO, OUR LEVERAGE IS
12:09:57PM THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO OUTSOURCE IT TO THE CITY.
12:10:00PM WE CAN HIRE OUR OWN STAFF, WE CAN CREATE -- IT'S BEEN DONE
12:10:04PM IN THE PAST.
12:10:04PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT'S FINE, BUT IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE
12:10:09PM THE CITY STAFF TO CARRY OUT THE CRA POLICIES, THEN THE CITY
12:10:15PM PERSONNEL POLICY --
12:10:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO QUESTIONED EMBEDDED IN THIS WOULD BE
12:10:20PM SINCE THE CITY OFFERS LEGAL AND OTHER HR ADVICE TO US, THAT
12:10:24PM IF WE PROPOSE BRINGING THIS ADDENDUM BACK IN JULY, THEN THE
12:10:31PM CRA STAFF WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO MEET WITH LEGAL AND HR AND
12:10:34PM CHIEF BENNETT AND THEY COULD DECIDE WHAT THEY THINK, THEY
12:10:37PM CAN DECIDE IF THEY NEED TO MODIFY THE PLANS, BUT IF WE DON'T
12:10:41PM HAVE ANY CONTROL TO SET THE SALARIES OF CRA STAFF AND WE
12:10:48PM DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE THEN THEY
12:10:52PM DON'T REALLY REPORT TO US, THEY ARE CITY STAFF.
12:10:54PM AND SO WE NEED SOME LEVERAGE TO BE ABLE TO MOTIVATE STAFF TO
12:10:59PM PERFORM AT A HIGHER STANDARD.
12:11:01PM SO ANYWAY, MY PROPOSAL IS OUT.
12:11:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, COUNCILMAN
12:11:08PM GUDES AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:11:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M SURPRISED TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS
12:11:15PM COMING, NOT THAT -- WANT TO REDUCE THE BUDGET, OF STORMWATER
12:11:24PM OR SOMETHING BY 25%.
12:11:27PM I AM NOT AGAINST RAISES.
12:11:30PM I ASKED BOTH INDIVIDUALS IF THEY WERE SATISFIED AND THEY
12:11:33PM SAID YES.
12:11:33PM SO SPOKE TO WHOEVER IS MAKING THE DECISION, I GUESS THAT
12:11:38PM WOULD BE MR. BENNETT.
12:11:43PM I DON'T DEAL THAT WAY.
12:11:44PM WHEN I RAN FINANCE COMPANIES, WHEN I RAN THINGS OF THAT
12:11:47PM NATURE, I WOULD HAVE A MEETING AND FIND OUT WHAT WE DID AND
12:11:50PM WHAT WE DIDN'T DO AND WHATEVER THE STANDARD IS AT, HOW WE
12:11:54PM CAN COMPENSATE EACH OTHER.
12:11:55PM BUT I'M NOT A GAME PLAYER JUST TO PLAY THE GAME.
12:12:00PM I WISH THE RAYS' GO 161 GAMES WITHOUT LOSING.
12:12:06PM IS IT POSSIBLE?
12:12:07PM IT CAN HAPPEN.
12:12:07PM SO I AM NOT AGAINST RAISES.
12:12:10PM BUT FOR ARBITRARY AND CAPRICIOUS WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT TO DO,
12:12:18PM BY THE WAY THAT'S WHY I GOT ELECTED, THE SAME AS ANYBODY
12:12:22PM REPRESENTS, TO FIND OUT WHAT IT IS AND WHERE IT WAS, AND AT
12:12:29PM LEAST I HAVE ASKED AND BOTH OF YOU SAID YES, THAT YOU WERE
12:12:32PM SATISFIED.
12:12:32PM AND WHEN YOU TAKE SOMETHING AND YOU TAKE SOMETHING, WHEN YOU
12:12:35PM PAY FOR BOTH THINGS, THAT MEANS AT ONE TIME YOU HAD TO TAKE
12:12:40PM PART OF THIS TIME TO DO PART OF THAT JOB, MAYBE HAD TO WORK
12:12:43PM A COUPLE MORE HOURS A DAY, I DON'T KNOW.
12:12:45PM BUT I JUST DON'T OPERATE THAT WAY, AND I AM NOT OPPOSED TO
12:12:49PM VOTING BY MYSELF.
12:12:50PM I HAVE DONE THAT MANY TIMES.
12:12:52PM AND I AM SURPRISED THAT WE ARE DOING THIS.
12:12:57PM THEY WANT TO FURTHER TEAR APART THIS GOVERNMENT BY
12:13:00PM CONTINUING SAYING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE CRA ARE IN
12:13:04PM CONFLICT.
12:13:05PM WELL, IF YOU DON'T WANT THE EMPLOYEES TO BE CITY EMPLOYEES,
12:13:09PM GET YOUR OWN EMPLOYEES.
12:13:11PM SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
12:13:12PM YOU WON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO DO ANYTHING.
12:13:14PM SO I AM JUST SAYING THAT I AM THROUGH PLAYING GAMES, AND I
12:13:18PM DON'T MEAN TO BE DISRESPECTFUL TO ANYONE HERE, BUT IF I HAVE
12:13:21PM TO VOTE ALONE THE REST OF MY LIFE, AS LONG AS I AM HERE, I
12:13:24PM DON'T MIND DOING IT.
12:13:26PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:13:26PM AND HAVE A VERY NICE DAY.
12:13:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:13:31PM ISSUES WITH ALL RESPECT, AND YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND A LONG
12:13:39PM TIME, BUT YOU ASKED IF THEY WERE SATISFIED.
12:13:41PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THEY ARE UNSATISFIED, SIR.
12:13:44PM I AM JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU.
12:13:45PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THAT.
12:13:47PM THEY ARE CITY EMPLOYEES.
12:13:48PM I AM LOOKING AT A POLICE OFFICER.
12:13:50PM HE KNOWS HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED.
12:13:51PM HE'S NOT GOING TO SAY HE'S UNHAPPY.
12:13:55PM I HAVE BEEN AN EMPLOYEE.
12:13:56PM I KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
12:13:57PM AND BEING A CITY EMPLOYEE, YOU KNOW HOW THE PLAYBOOK IS.
12:14:05PM SO THEY AREN'T GOING TO SAY THEY ARE SATISFIED JUST TO MOVE
12:14:08PM ON AND GIVE THEM WHATEVER WE GIVE THEM.
12:14:10PM BUT I KNOW IT'S NOT ALWAYS DESERVED BUT WE CAN MOVE ON AND
12:14:13PM VOTE ON IT.
12:14:14PM MR. CARLSON, I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.
12:14:17PM THEY SAY THEY ARE SATISFIED BUT I KNOW IN THEIR HEARTS I
12:14:20PM KNOW THEY AIN'T SATISFIED AND WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.
12:14:22PM THANK YOU.
12:14:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CITRO.
12:14:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WHEN YOU SAY STAFF ARE
12:14:29PM YOU TALKING ABOUT THE TOP TIER OR ALL CRA STAFF?
12:14:33PM BECAUSE IF YOU ARE TALKING ALL CRA STAFF, CORRECT ME IF I AM
12:14:36PM WRONG, CRA STAFF, SOMEBODY THAT'S PAID THROUGH THE CRA
12:14:41PM FUNDS, AND AS THEY WERE AT CITY.
12:14:45PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THE CRA STAFF IS 100% OUT OF THE CRA
12:14:49PM BUDGET.
12:14:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO IN THAT CASE --
12:14:52PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: LET ME SAY HE AND I ARE THE ONLY TWO.
12:14:57PM WE ARE CITY EMPLOYEES, AND IN THIS COMPENSATION, THE
12:14:59PM SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH THIS COMPENSATION PIECE, THAT WOULD
12:15:02PM BE THE PORTION OF CRA, BUT THE CITY GENERAL FUNDS, SIR.
12:15:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY QUESTION, IF MR. CARLSON IS TALKING
12:15:12PM ABOUT ALL CRA STAFF, AND THEY ARE PAID WITH THE CRA BUDGET,
12:15:16PM BUT WE HAVE TO ASK THE CRA ITSELF.
12:15:21PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU ARE IF CRA BOARD.
12:15:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOR TRANSPARENCY.
12:15:25PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MAY I OFFER SOME COMMENTS?
12:15:29PM I APPRECIATE -- THIS CONVERSATION -- THE REASON WE ARE
12:15:33PM HAVING THIS CONVERSATION IS BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT WE ARE
12:15:35PM DOING.
12:15:35PM WE WOULD LIKE TO HIRE HARD WORKING PEOPLE WITH GRIT WORKING
12:15:44PM ON OUR TEAM AND TO BE COMPENSATED EXTRA FOR DOING EXTRA
12:15:47PM WORK.
12:15:48PM WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS.
12:15:50PM WE LOVE WHAT WE DO.
12:15:52PM WE ARE GOOD AT IT.
12:15:53PM AND SO GIVE US THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED TO DO THE WORK, WHICH
12:15:59PM IS SOME OF THAT IS IN HERE WITH THE FIVE FULL TIME
12:16:04PM POSITIONS.
12:16:05PM REGARDING BONUSES AND REWARDING STAFF, I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:16:11PM I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S DIRECTED TO THE WORK THAT WE ARE
12:16:14PM DOING.
12:16:14PM BUT WE RECEIVE A PAYCHECK FOR THE WORK THAT WE ARE SUPPOSED
12:16:17PM TO DO.
12:16:17PM THAT'S THE MOTIVATION.
12:16:18PM AND THAT SHOULD BE THE MOTIVATION, WE ARE PAID, AND WITH ALL
12:16:26PM DUE BONUSES, LIKE I SAID.
12:16:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:16:30PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:16:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE WERE A SEPARATE ENTITY THAT HAD OUR
12:16:36PM OWN STAFF -- AND I AM NOT PROPOSING THAT, AND AS I SAID
12:16:40PM EARLIER THE ADMINISTRATION HAS WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH US
12:16:45PM THE LAST YEAR OR SO, BUT KEEP IN MIND THE TWO YEARS BEFORE
12:16:48PM THAT, WE HAD ROOMS FULL OF PEOPLE COMING COMPLAINING BECAUSE
12:16:54PM NOT ENOUGH THINGS WERE GETTING DONE, AND WE WERE MAKING THE
12:16:57PM MOTIONS BUT NOTHING WAS GETTING DONE.
12:16:59PM AND SO TO ME THIS IS A -- I AM GOING TO BE TRANSPARENT -- A
12:17:04PM NEGOTIATION BETWEEN THE CITY STAFF AND THE CRA THAT WE NEED
12:17:08PM TO THINK CREATIVELY, BECAUSE THE CRA NEEDS TO BE MORE
12:17:11PM NIMBLE, MOVE FASTER AND GET MORE RESULTS.
12:17:14PM AND THE WAY YOU DO THAT IS TO FIRST OF ALL HOLD PEOPLE
12:17:17PM ACCOUNTABLE, AND HOPEFULLY THE NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILL
12:17:22PM HAVE SOME ABILITY TO DO THAT, WORKING WITH CITY STAFF, AND
12:17:26PM THEN THE SECOND THING WOULD BE TO REWARD PEOPLE.
12:17:30PM AND MY PROPOSAL HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THESE TWO FOLKS.
12:17:34PM THE PROPOSAL IS JUST TO ASK THE CITY STAFF TO HAVE A
12:17:41PM DISCUSSION ABOUT AMENDING THE CONTRACT SO THAT WE CRA BOARD
12:17:45PM HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUT FORWARD BONUSES, AND TO BOARD MEMBER
12:17:51PM CITRO'S VERY GOOD COMMENT, MOST LIKELY THAT WOULD -- WHAT
12:17:57PM WOULD HAPPEN IS THAT THE CRA DIRECTOR WOULD PROPOSE TO US
12:18:00PM BONUSES FOR THEIR STAFF, AND THEN WE WOULD APPROVE IT.
12:18:04PM SO ALL THIS DOES, MY PROPOSAL IS JUST FOR US TO PUT IN THE
12:18:07PM CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO IT.
12:18:09PM AND THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO HAVE THE CITY STAFF, ESPECIALLY
12:18:13PM CHIEF OF STAFF, WORK THROUGH THE LEGAL AND OTHER ISSUES TO
12:18:16PM TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN DO IT, AND IF WE CAN, HOW WOULD
12:18:19PM WE DO IT?
12:18:20PM IF WE PUT IT IN THE CONTRACT THEN WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE
12:18:23PM CRA DIRECTOR TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BONUS PEOPLE, HOW MUCH AND
12:18:26PM INFORM WHAT.
12:18:27PM THE WHOLE PURPOSE IS TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE, SO THEY HIT
12:18:31PM THEIR GOALS.
12:18:32PM IF WE COME BACK IN JULY AND SAY CAN'T DO IT, ABSOLUTELY NOT,
12:18:35PM THEN WE ARE STUCK.
12:18:36PM SO ALL I AM ASKING IN THIS MOTION IS FOR US TO ASK CITY
12:18:40PM STAFF TO LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING AN ADDENDUM TO
12:18:44PM ENABLE THE CRA BOARD TO PROVIDE BONUSES TO CRA STAFF, AND TO
12:18:49PM HAVE THE CITY STAFF REPORT ON THEIR JULY CRA MEETING.
12:18:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
12:18:57PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:18:58PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:19:00PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:19:01PM IT'S TIDE.
12:19:01PM >> ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:19:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:19:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
12:19:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
12:19:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:19:22PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:19:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
12:19:32PM >> THE MOTION FAILS.
12:19:33PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THERE WAS A QUESTION ON ITEM 6, I BELIEVE.
12:19:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THE OVERALL
12:19:44PM CONTRACT.
12:19:45PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: OKAY.
12:19:48PM READY?
12:19:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE -- IN PRIOR YEARS, AS
12:20:00PM I RECALL, NICOLE AND I HAD A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS
12:20:05PM YESTERDAY AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BUT IN PRIOR YEARS I
12:20:07PM RECALL THERE WAS A DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THE CONTRACT, AND THIS
12:20:10PM YEAR WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
12:20:11PM AND THEY ARE ASKING US TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS WITHOUT
12:20:15PM THE BUCKETS, AND YOU JUST PRESENTED LIKE A WORKING STRONG
12:20:18PM MAN ON THE DOLLARS WHICH LOOKED OKAY.
12:20:20PM BUT IN JULY THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND ASK US TO
12:20:25PM APPROVE THE BUDGET.
12:20:26PM AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS JUST BEFORE WE MAKE A
12:20:31PM MOTION TO ASK CRA STAFF TO REPORT IN A JULY MEETING ON THE
12:20:40PM BUDGET THAT WAS CONTRACTED FOR EACH OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS,
12:20:43PM AND THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED FOR EACH OF THE
12:20:48PM LAST FOUR YEARS.
12:20:49PM SO THAT SHOULD BE A REAL SIMPLE THING.
12:20:52PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SO WHAT WAS IN THE CONTRACT FOR FOUR YEARS
12:20:56PM AND THAT ULTIMATELY WHAT WAS APPROVED WHEN THEY TRUED UP
12:20:59PM THE --
12:21:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SO IT WOULD JUST BE A SPREADSHEET THAT
12:21:03PM SAYS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THEN TO THE RIGHT THE ADDENDUM
12:21:08PM AMOUNT AND THEN THE TOTAL.
12:21:12PM REAL SIMPLE CHART.
12:21:13PM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO HAVE CRA STAFF
12:21:16PM PRESENT THAT CHART AT THE JULY MEETING, BEFORE THE BUDGET.
12:21:21PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THE BUDGET PRESENTATION.
12:21:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY GUDES.
12:21:27PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:21:28PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:21:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND ONE, I THINK BECAUSE IN PRIOR
12:21:32PM YEARS THE CONTRACT INCLUDED A DOLLAR AMOUNT, I WOULD LIKE TO
12:21:37PM MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO COME BACK IN THE JULY MEETING
12:21:42PM TO PRESENT A BUDGET -- SORRY, A CONTRACT AMENDMENT THAT
12:21:46PM WOULD INCLUDE A BUDGET AMOUNT, SO THAT WOULD GO -- MORRIS
12:21:51PM AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY -- THAT WOULD GO HAND IN
12:21:54PM HAND WITH THE BUDGET, SO WE APPROVE THE BUDGET AND THEN
12:21:57PM SEPARATELY WE WOULD APPROVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT
12:21:59PM WHICH WOULD INCLUDE A BUDGET NUMBER.
12:22:01PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: OKAY.
12:22:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND
12:22:04PM FROM COUNCILMAN --
12:22:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HAVE A BUDGET AMOUNT, AND THEN YOU
12:22:12PM HAVE WHAT HAPPENED, AND THEN YOU SHOW THE DIFFERENCES?
12:22:18PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.
12:22:19PM THAT'S CORRECT SIR.
12:22:20PM RIGHT NOW WHAT HAPPENED, THE CONTRACT HAS A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
12:22:23PM BECAUSE OF VACANCIES, HIRING, FLUCTUATE, SO WE TRUE UP AT
12:22:27PM THE END.
12:22:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO PROBE WITH THAT.
12:22:30PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I THINK WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR SINCE WE
12:22:32PM DON'T HAVE AN ESTIMATE IN THIS BUDGET NOW, ONCE WE GET THOSE
12:22:35PM NUMBERS, THE PROJECTION FOR THE FUTURE YEARS, BRING AN
12:22:39PM AMENDMENT SO WE COULD PUT THAT IN THE AGREEMENT.
12:22:41PM IT STILL DOESN'T PRECLUDE THAT YOU WON'T HAVE TRUE-UP AGAIN
12:22:45PM AT THE END.
12:22:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS GOING TO SAY ALTHOUGH IT SOUND
12:22:48PM GREAT THE VARIABLES MAY BE DIFFERENT, HIGHER OR LOWER BASED
12:22:51PM ON WHAT HAPPENED DURING THAT YEAR.
12:22:52PM THERE'S ALWAYS A TRUE-UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
12:22:55PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: SINCE THIS COVERS TWO FISCAL YEARS, WE
12:22:57PM WOULD PROBABLY HAVE ONE FIGURE FOR FY 23 AND THEN ANOTHER --
12:23:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GOT IT.
12:23:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS JUST TO SHOW
12:23:09PM THAT THE PUBLIC SHOWS WE ARE BEING GOOD CUSTODIANS OF THE
12:23:12PM MONEY, TRY TO HOLD THE CITY ACCOUNTABLE, IF THE CITY SAYS
12:23:17PM THERE'S MORE MONEY WE CAN ALWAYS APPROVE THAT AT ANOTHER
12:23:20PM TIME BUT IT LEAST IT PUTS IN THE CONTRACT.
12:23:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY CARLSON, SECOND BY GUDES.
12:23:26PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:23:27PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:23:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
12:23:29PM LAST THING IS WE TALKED ABOUT STAFF.
12:23:31PM THE CITY HAS A LOT OF STAFF MEMBERS.
12:23:33PM THE CRA HAS VERY FEW.
12:23:35PM AND IN THIS WHOLE ANALYSIS THAT NICOLE HAS BEEN DOING OVER
12:23:39PM THE LAST FEW MONTHS, WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM
12:23:44PM THE PUBLIC ALSO ABOUT PERFORMANCE OF THE DIFFERENT CRA
12:23:48PM DISTRICTS, AND NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR, BUT
12:23:51PM I WOULD JUST ASK THAT -- AND I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION
12:23:55PM BECAUSE I ASK THAT YOU GO THROUGH, AND AS YOU ARE
12:23:57PM RESTRUCTURING, DON'T TAKE SOMEBODY AND PUT THEM IN A CUBICAL
12:24:02PM DOWNSTAIRS, LIKE REALLY FIND, ARE WE GETTING CRA DOESN'T
12:24:05PM HAVE MUCH MONEY TO DEAL WITH, SO ARE WE REALLY GETTING OUR
12:24:08PM MONEY'S WORTH?
12:24:09PM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CRITICISM FROM CAC MEMBERS AND OTHERS
12:24:13PM ABOUT THE AMOUNT WE ARE SPENDING ON PEOPLE AND OVERHEAD AND
12:24:16PM THAT WE ARE EXPANDING PEOPLE, SO AT THE TIME WE MIGHT BE
12:24:19PM ADDING POSITIONS OR REALLOCATING, IF THERE ARE POSITIONS FOR
12:24:23PM PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO CUT, WE NEED TO DO THAT, TOO.
12:24:26PM AND IT MIGHT BE THAT THEY ARE REALLOCATED SOMEWHERE ELSE
12:24:31PM WITHIN THE CITY BUT WE NEED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK
12:24:34PM TO CHIEF OF STAFF OR WHOMEVER AND SAY, HEY, WE DON'T NEED
12:24:38PM THESE OTHER TWO POSITIONS, WE ARE HIRING DIFFERENT
12:24:41PM POSITIONS, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE BUDGET
12:24:44PM COSTS AS LOW AS POSSIBLE.
12:24:45PM SO I WOULD JUST ASK REVIEWING THE NEW CRA DIRECTOR IF YOU
12:24:48PM PLEASE LOOK AT AUTOMOBILE THESE POSITIONS AND MAKE SURE THAT
12:24:51PM WE HAVE EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE AND WE ARE GETTING FULL
12:24:54PM PRODUCTIVITY FROM EVERYBODY AS TO YOUR REQUIREMENTS.
12:24:56PM THANK YOU.
12:24:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:24:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT TRYING TO COUNTERPOINT ANYTHING
12:25:01PM BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS YOU HAVE TO MAKE IT
12:25:03PM BASED ON WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING OR OTHER, A CRA
12:25:08PM COMPARABLE TO THIS ONE, AND WE HAVE OVER 4400 EMPLOYEES IN
12:25:12PM THE CITY, AND THE CRA, HOW MANY DO WE HAVE?
12:25:14PM I DON'T REALLY KNOW RIGHT NOW.
12:25:16PM BUT YOU ARE MIXING APPLES AND OPERATION, AND THE CITY HAS
12:25:20PM VERY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAN THE CRA THAT ARE NOT IN THE
12:25:23PM CRA, AND THEY DON'T DO ANY CAPITAL WORK LIKE THE CRA DOES.
12:25:27PM SO YOU HAVE TO COMPARE YOURSELF WITH SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE,
12:25:34PM AND ANOTHER WITH THE SAME AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES VERSUS THE
12:25:38PM POPULATION OF THAT CITY OR THAT ENTITY.
12:25:40PM THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
12:25:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:25:44PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE IS THIS.
12:25:46PM AND THIS IS WHAT YOU HEAR THE PUBLIC SAY.
12:25:53PM HERE IS AN EXAMPLE.
12:25:54PM WHY DOES EVERYTHING TAKE SO LONG TO MOVE?
12:25:57PM WELL, IF YOU ONLY GOT SO MANY STAFF ON A CRA BUT YOU GOT A
12:26:01PM BIG CITY OVER HERE, BUT YET THE CITY IS GOING TO DO WHAT THE
12:26:04PM CITY NEEDS TO DO REGULARLY, AND THE CRA PERSON CAN'T GET
12:26:08PM THEIR STUFF THROUGH BECAUSE THE CITY BUSINESS COMES FIRST.
12:26:12PM THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS THE CHALLENGE, PEOPLE IN THE CRA THAT
12:26:15PM CAN MOVE THIS STUFF, AND IN YOUR CRA THAT CAN MOVE THE
12:26:21PM ITEMS.
12:26:21PM IF YOU HAVE GOT A PERSON THAT DOES HOUSING, OR STAFF THAT
12:26:24PM CAN MOVE THAT STUFF, TO MOVE THEIR STUFF, I THINK THAT'S THE
12:26:28PM KEY, YOU GET SOME STUFF MOVING, DESIGNATED PEOPLE TO GO TO.
12:26:37PM I HAVE FIVE OTHER PEOPLE, AND YOU ARE HANDLING ALL OUR CRA
12:26:42PM WORK, WE ARE GETTING IT DONE.
12:26:43PM SO THAT'S JUST MY THEORY.
12:26:46PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MAY I?
12:26:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:26:49PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THE FOUR POSITIONS THAT WE ARE ADDING
12:26:51PM EXCLUSIVELY FOR HOUSING, WORK ONLY ON CRA HOUSING
12:26:54PM INITIATIVES.
12:26:57PM BUT I TAKE ISSUE, IF ANY CRA MANAGER OR SOMEBODY ON CRA
12:27:02PM STAFF SAYING THAT CITY BUSINESS IS COMING FIRST IN THE
12:27:05PM INTERNAL DEPARTMENTS, IT'S NOT TRUE.
12:27:07PM IT'S NOT TRUE.
12:27:09PM SO I ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS THE E-MAIL THAT YOU GUYS RECEIVED
12:27:12PM IN YOUR IN BOX SAYING HOW LONG THINGS TAKE TO MOVE.
12:27:16PM YES, IT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY TAKING A LONG TIME TO MOVE.
12:27:20PM THERE ARE OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE HAD.
12:27:22PM THERE'S BEEN TURNOVER.
12:27:24PM THERE'S A LOT OF BUREAUCRATIC RED TAPE THAT DOESN'T NEED TO
12:27:27PM BE THERE WITH SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS IN REGARD.
12:27:32PM BUT WE ARE BEING HELD TO A DIFFERENT STANDARD AND TIMELINE
12:27:37PM THAN WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED IN THIS SPACE, RIGHT?
12:27:43PM SO EVERYBODY WANTS THE RESULTS LIKE TOMORROW.
12:27:46PM IT TAKES FOREVER TO MAKE SOME OF THESE, NOT FOREVER BUT IT
12:27:52PM TAKES A LONG TIME TO MAKE SOME OF THE CHANGES WE ARE MAKING.
12:27:54PM YOU ARE MOVING A NAVAL SHIP TO GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION.
12:27:59PM WE ARE LAYING THE FOUNDATION TO DO THAT.
12:28:01PM SO I TAKE ISSUE IF SOMEBODY IS SAYING THAT IT GOES TO A
12:28:05PM DIFFERENT INTERNAL CITY SERVICE DEPARTMENT AND IT GOES --
12:28:08PM THAT'S NOT TRUE.
12:28:09PM THAT'S NOT TRUE.
12:28:11PM AND I WILL ALSO SAY THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT
12:28:14PM HAPPENING IS BECAUSE OF THE POLICIES THAT YOU HAVE OR HAVE
12:28:20PM NOT ADDRESSED WITH THE CACs, LIKE YOU HAVE CACs AND
12:28:26PM SUBCOMMITTEES, I AM GOING TO SAY HERE BECAUSE I HAVE SAID IT
12:28:29PM BEFORE, THOSE SUBCOMMITTEES TO THE CACs WAS A SUBSTITUTION
12:28:34PM FOR WHAT HADN'T WASN'T HAPPENING ON THE STAFF LEVEL, OKAY?
12:28:38PM AND SO IF THINGS ARE BEING SLOWED DOWN, I SHOWED YOU A
12:28:42PM PRESENTATION OF 24/7 MEETINGS THAT WE ARE HAVING TO STAFF.
12:28:45PM YOU HAVE 13 PEOPLE STAFFING 247 MEETINGS.
12:28:49PM WE ARE TRYING TO RIGHT THAT SHIP.
12:28:51PM BUT THERE'S A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS.
12:28:54PM THERE'S A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY BY THE CACs, AND KNOWING
12:29:00PM THEIR ROLE, THERE'S A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY BY THE C BOARD
12:29:03PM FOR YOU TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS REGARDING POLICIES IN THE
12:29:06PM CACs MOVING FORWARD.
12:29:08PM THERE'S A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY ON THE ADMINISTRATION.
12:29:11PM THE GOAL WE WANT THE ALL OF US WANT THE SAME THING TO HAPPEN
12:29:16PM BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
12:29:18PM AND WE ARE HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.
12:29:21PM SO COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS ASKING FOR ME TO LOOK AT POSITIONS,
12:29:24PM AND JOB DESCRIPTION.
12:29:25PM WE WILL START LOOKING AT JOB DESCRIPTIONS BECAUSE IF I AM
12:29:27PM WORKING AT 150% EVERYBODY ON MY TEAM NEEDS TO BE WORKING AT
12:29:32PM 150%.
12:29:33PM AND SO I AM SAYING THAT TO YOU AS A CRA BOARD AND I AM ALSO
12:29:36PM SAYING IT TO THE CRA STAFF.
12:29:39PM I AM NOT PLAYING GAMES RIGHT NOW, RIGHT?
12:29:43PM THE CRAs HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE.
12:29:45PM WE SHOULD BE ALL OPERATING UNDER A SENSE OF URGENCY TO BE
12:29:49PM OUT OF A JOB, CRAs.
12:29:52PM THAT'S THE KIND OF URGENCY AND WORK WE ARE DOING WITH CRAs
12:29:55PM AND THAT'S THE EXPECTATION I HAVE.
12:29:56PM AND I AM SAYING IT HERE ON CAMERA BUT I AM SAYING IT FOR
12:30:01PM THEM TO HEAR ME, TOO.
12:30:02PM THAT'S THE EXPECTATION I HAVE AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING
12:30:04PM TO DO MOVING FORWARD.
12:30:05PM I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THE QUESTION THAT YOU ARE ASKING.
12:30:08PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK YOU ARE PLAYING -- THAT'S GOOD.
12:30:17PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE.
12:30:20PM WE ARE HERE TO DO THE WORK.
12:30:21PM AND I ASK YOUR FAVORABLE APPROVAL OF THE SERVICES AGREEMENT
12:30:26PM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE MAKING THE CHANGES THAT
12:30:28PM YOU HAVE DONE.
12:30:29PM YOU HAVE DONE THE HEAVY LIFTING IN HAVING THESE DIFFICULT
12:30:33PM CONVERSATION IT IS LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
12:30:34PM YOU HAVE MADE INCREMENTAL DECISIONS.
12:30:36PM THE SERVICES AGREEMENT TIES THAT UP AS WELL.
12:30:38PM ALL RIGHT?
12:30:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I GOT YOU.
12:30:50PM >> MOVE APPROVAL.
12:30:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:30:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
12:30:55PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DON'T WANT TO CUT YOU ALL OFF BUT IF YOU
12:30:59PM ALL COULD MOVE THE SUBSTITUTION --
12:31:05PM >>> ANYTHING ELSE?
12:31:08PM >> NO.
12:31:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
12:31:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST REAL FAST, NICOLE, TO WHAT WE ARE
12:31:15PM SAYING ABOUT STAFF, AS YOU ARE HANDING OFF TO THE NEW
12:31:18PM PERSON, IF YOU COULD WORK WITH HER AND I GUESS CHIEF OF
12:31:20PM STAFF TO MAKE SURE TO WHAT BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA WAS SAYING,
12:31:25PM THE WORK IN THE CRA IS DIFFERENT THAN THE WORK IN OTHER CITY
12:31:28PM DEPARTMENTS, SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S MEASURABLE
12:31:31PM ACCOUNTABILITY AND STANDARDS, AND THAT THAT'S REVIEWED
12:31:34PM REGULARLY BY THE NEW CRA DIRECTOR, AND PROBABLY IN TANDEM
12:31:39PM WITH HR OR CHIEF OF STAFF.
12:31:41PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S A STAFF OF PERFORMANCE CRITERIA
12:31:44PM FOR EACH ONE THAT'S BUILT AROUND CRAs, NOT OTHER CRA
12:31:48PM ACTIVITIES.
12:31:48PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: PERFORMANCE EVALUATION.
12:31:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU MOVED TO MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE
12:31:56PM RESOLUTION?
12:31:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOR ITEM NUMBER 10.
12:31:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:32:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:32:01PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:32:02PM GREAT.
12:32:03PM YES, MA'AM, ANYTHING ELSE?
12:32:04PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NO.
12:32:05PM I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF REQUIRED APPROVALS.
12:32:08PM WE SHOULD MOVE THIS THROUGH PRETTY QUICKLY.
12:32:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
12:32:16PM ITEM 11 IS THE NEXT FOR APPROVAL.
12:32:19PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECONDED BY VIERA.
12:32:23PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:32:24PM NEXT IS ITEM 12.
12:32:27PM VIERA, MIRANDA.
12:32:29PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:32:30PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:32:31PM ITEM 13.
12:32:31PM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA, COUNCILMEMBER GUDES.
12:32:35PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:32:36PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:32:37PM ITEM NUMBER 14.
12:32:40PM MOVED BY COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
12:32:43PM GUDES.
12:32:45PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:32:46PM NEXT UP WE HAVE SOME APPOINTMENTS, THE CAC.
12:32:49PM CAN WE MOVE THEM AS A GROUP, 15 THROUGH 24?
12:32:53PM OR DO YOU NEED INDIVIDUAL?
12:32:54PM >> 15 THROUGH 17, I BELIEVE, ARE ALL THE SAME.
12:33:00PM MOTION.
12:33:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO MOVE 15 THROUGH 17 BY
12:33:03PM COUNCILMEMBER CITRO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
12:33:05PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:33:06PM OPPOSED?
12:33:07PM ITEM 18?
12:33:08PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
12:33:09PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
12:33:13PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:33:14PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:33:15PM ITEM NUMBER 19.
12:33:18PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.
12:33:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:33:23PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:33:24PM ITEM 20.
12:33:24PM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA WITH THE MOTION.
12:33:26PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
12:33:28PM ALL IN FAVOR FOR ITEM NUMBER 20?
12:33:30PM ALL RIGHT.
12:33:30PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:33:33PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA WITH A SECOND FROM
12:33:35PM COUNCILMAN CITRO FOR ITEM NUMBER 21.
12:33:38PM SECOND FROM CITRO.
12:33:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:33:41PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:33:41PM ALL RIGHT.
12:33:42PM KID MASON, THEM 22.
12:33:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TELL ME ABOUT KID MASON, REPROGRAMMING
12:33:48PM MONEYS.
12:33:48PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS IS A REPROGRAMMING IN ORDER TO
12:33:52PM ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL COSTS.
12:33:53PM YOU ALL HAD SOME FEEDBACK AND THERE WERE ALSO NUMBERS ON THE
12:33:58PM BID SO THIS IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET.
12:34:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHEN ARE WE GOING TO START IN THIS HAS
12:34:05PM BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
12:34:06PM THIS IS GOING ON FOUR YEARS.
12:34:08PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE PROJECT
12:34:10PM MANAGEMENT TEAM BUT THIS IS ON THE FUNDING SIDE.
12:34:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO JEFF DOESN'T HAVE AN ANSWER?
12:34:15PM I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT FOUR YEARS LATER.
12:34:17PM >> THIS WENT OUT TO BID.
12:34:22PM THIS MONEY COVERS WHAT THE BID IS.
12:34:23PM ONCE WE GET THIS WHAT APPROVAL, CONTRACT MANAGEMENT, THE BID
12:34:27PM IS LET AND GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS.
12:34:29PM SO WE ARE ON THE WAY TO CONSTRUCTION.
12:34:30PM THIS IS THE LAST ITEM.
12:34:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY MIRANDA, SECONDED BY CITRO.
12:34:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:34:37PM THAT WAS ITEM 22.
12:34:38PM ITEM NUMBER 23.
12:34:40PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:34:41PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
12:34:43PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:34:44PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:34:45PM ITEM NUMBER 24.
12:34:47PM ITEM NUMBER 24 -- YES, MA'AM?
12:34:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE A COPY OF THE ANNUAL REPORT FOR YOU
12:34:53PM ALL.
12:34:53PM SO I WILL PASS THOSE OUT.
12:34:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH THE MOTION.
12:35:00PM ALL IN FAVOR ON ITEM NUMBER 24?
12:35:03PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:35:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU REAL FAST TO
12:35:11PM BOARD MEMBER GUDES AND BOARD MEMBER CITRO, THE LAST MEETING
12:35:16PM IS TODAY, AND JUST THANK YOU FOR PARTNERING WITH US ALL IN
12:35:19PM THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
12:35:21PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
12:35:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS.
12:35:26PM THOSE WERE BOTH WORKED VERY, VERY, VERY HARD.
12:35:30PM YOU ARE ALWAYS COMMITTEE COMMUNITY AND YOU ARE NOT GOING
12:35:32PM AWAY.
12:35:33PM JUST BECAUSE YOU AREN'T SITTING UP HERE I KNOW YOU ARE GOING
12:35:36PM TO BE JUST AS INVOLVED AND THE PEOPLE APPRECIATE IT.
12:35:39PM ANYONE ELSE?
12:35:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: THIS CRA IN TERMS OF CHANGING THE SCOPE OF
12:35:46PM THE CRA WITH THESE TWO GENTLEMEN HAS BEEN TREMENDOUS.
12:35:49PM SO I ECHO THOSE SENTIMENTS.
12:35:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: INFORMATION REPORTS AND NEW BUSINESS.
12:35:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
12:35:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
12:35:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
12:36:02PM THANK YOU.
12:36:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO, SIR.
12:36:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY
12:36:06PM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA, SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CITRO.
12:36:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:36:10PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:36:11PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
12:36:11PM THANK YOU.
12:36:11PM [MEETING ADJOURNED]
12:36:15PM
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