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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 20, 2023
9:00 A.M.

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09:01:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING!
09:02:00AM WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HELD THIS DAY ON APRIL 20,
09:02:06AM 2023.
09:02:07AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE INVOCATION.
09:02:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, GOOD MORNING.
09:02:17AM NICOLE ABDNOUR FROM PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH IN SOUTH TAMPA.
09:02:22AM AND SHE IS A NATIVE OF FLORIDA.
09:02:24AM GRADUATED WITH A BACHELOR IN ENGLISH FROM STETSON UNIVERSITY
09:02:28AM AND A MASTER OF DIVINITY, MASTER OF ARTS IN CHRISTIAN
09:02:32AM EDUCATION FROM UNION PRESBYTERIAN SEMINARY IN RICHMOND AND
09:02:39AM RECENTLY GOT A DOCK FOR RAT OF MINISTRY IN EMORY.
09:02:42AM NICOLE WAS ORDAINED AS A TEACHING ELDER AND WORD OF
09:02:47AM SACRAMENT IN 2003 AND SERVED AS ASSOCIATE PASTOR FOR
09:02:51AM CHRISTIAN EDUCATION AT ST. CHARLES PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH IN
09:02:55AM NEW ORLEANS FOR TWO YEARS PRIOR TO COMING TO PALMA CEIA
09:03:00AM PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH WHERE HER MINISTRY FOCUSED ON PASTORAL
09:03:04AM CARE.
09:03:05AM SINCE MOVING TO TAMPA MET AND MARRIED CHRISTOPHER ABNOR.
09:03:10AM THEY HAVE THREE CHILDREN.
09:03:11AM WHEN NOT AT CHURCH, THEY CAN BE SEEN BIKING TO DAIRY JOY
09:03:15AM WHICH A LOT OF US HAVE GONE THROUGH IN BETWEEN HOLDING SIGNS
09:03:18AM ACROSS THE STREET.
09:03:18AM BUT THANK YOU.
09:03:19AM YOUR CHURCH HAS A GREAT REPUTATION AND GROWING FAST.
09:03:22AM AND IT IS A REAL HIGHLIGHT OF THE COMMUNITY.
09:03:25AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING THIS MORNING.
09:03:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE RISE.
09:03:31AM >> HOLY ONE, KNOWN BY MANY TIMES AND BEYOND ALL NAMES, WE
09:03:38AM THANK YOU FOR THE GIFTS, OPPORTUNITIES AND BEAUTIES THIS
09:03:44AM DAY.
09:03:44AM WE THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF COMMUNITY AND ASK YOUR BLESSING
09:03:47AM TO BE UPON THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE COMMUNITIES WITHIN
09:03:50AM WHICH WE LIVE.
09:03:51AM HELP US ALL TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE VAST RESOURCES OF
09:03:54AM THIS CORNER OF THE EARTH.
09:03:56AM MAY HONEST INDUSTRY AND SOUND LEARNING MARK OUR COMMUNAL
09:04:00AM LIFE THAT TOGETHER WE WILL BE A PUBLIC WITNESS OF THE VALUE
09:04:03AM AND TREASURE FOUND IN COMMUNITY.
09:04:05AM SAVE US FROM VIOLENCE, DISCORD AND CONFUSION, FROM PRIDE AND
09:04:11AM ARROGANCE AND FROM EVERY EVIL WAY.
09:04:13AM AS THIS COUNCIL BEGINS THEIR BUSINESS, WE STOP AND PRAY FOR
09:04:16AM THOSE WHO HOLD OFFICE IN THE GOVERNMENT OF THIS CITY THAT
09:04:19AM THEY MAY DO THEIR WORK IN A SPIRIT OF WISDOM, KINDNESS, AND
09:04:23AM JUSTICE.
09:04:23AM HELP THEM TO USE THEIR AUTHORITY TO SERVE FAITHFULLY AND TO
09:04:27AM PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE.
09:04:30AM INFUSE THE COUNCIL WITH PASSION AND IMAGINATION AND GIVE TO
09:04:33AM THEM THE WISDOM TO BALANCE COMPASSION AND CHALLENGE.
09:04:38AM GUIDE EACH OF US, OH GOD, TO BE GOOD CITIZENS OF THIS CITY
09:04:42AM AND NATION HELPING US TO RESPECT NEIGHBORS WHOSE VIEWS
09:04:45AM DIFFER FROM OURS WITHOUT PARTISAN ANGER WE MAY WORK OUT
09:04:49AM ISSUE THAT DIVIDE US IN ORDER TO SOLVE THE COMMON GOOD.
09:04:53AM GLORY BE TO THE ONE CALL TO JUSTICE ALWAYS STANDS AND PRAISE
09:04:57AM BE TO THE ONE WHOSE LOVE IS STEADFAST, AMEN.
09:05:01AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:05:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL PLEASE.
09:05:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:05:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:05:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:05:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:05:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:05:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:05:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I'M HERE AS WELL.
09:05:28AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:05:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMEMBERS, IF YOU PLEASE INDULGE ME FOR
09:05:34AM JUST A FEW MINUTES.
09:05:34AM MISS MOLLY BIEBEL.
09:05:37AM WE HAVE -- MOST OF YOU KNOW MISS BIEBEL FROM THE MAYOR'S
09:05:45AM YOUTH CORPS.
09:05:47AM SHE IS NOT HERE REPRESENTING THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORP BUT
09:05:53AM WEARING A DIFFERENT HAT.
09:05:54AM SHE ASKED COUNCIL IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND THE STUDENTS OF
09:05:59AM SUNLAKE ACADEMY OF MATH AND SCIENCE TO BE HERE TO FIND OUT
09:06:04AM MORE ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND SEE WHAT WE DO HERE AT CITY
09:06:07AM COUNCIL.
09:06:07AM IF YOU DON'T MIND, COUNCILMEMBERS, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM
09:06:11AM COME UP, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND TELL US WHAT GRADE THEY
09:06:13AM ARE IN.
09:06:14AM MISS BIEBEL.
09:06:16AM MR. GUDES, ARE WE COOL?
09:06:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN, YES.
09:06:23AM THIS IS YOUR SHOW.
09:06:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:06:26AM >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CITRO.
09:06:28AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
09:06:30AM I WILL NOT TAKE ANY MORE TIME AND LET THE STUDENTS COME UP
09:06:33AM AND SPEAK TO THEMSELVES.
09:06:34AM I WILL PASS IT OFF TO THEIR TEACHER.
09:06:36AM >> I AM MATTHEW HALER, A MIDDLE SCHOOL SOCIAL STUDIES
09:06:41AM TEACHER AND I RUN THE STUDENT GOVERNMENT FOR SUNLAKE
09:06:44AM ACADEMY.
09:06:44AM I AM A LITTLE BIASED.
09:06:46AM THIS IS PROBABLY THE SMARTEST GROUP OF KIDS YOU WILL SEE IN
09:06:50AM ALL OF MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THE U.S., BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD GET
09:06:52AM TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM.
09:06:54AM COME UP AND SAY YOUR NAME AND GRADE.
09:06:56AM >> HI, SHRIA, AND I AM IN 8th GRADE.
09:07:00AM >> HI, I AM LILA, AND I AM IN 6th GRADE.
09:07:06AM >> HI, I AM CANDACE FERNANDEZ AND I AM IN 6th GRADE.
09:07:14AM >> HELLO ,ASHAN, AND I AM IN 7th GRADE.
09:07:19AM >> HI, I AM SIENNA, AND I AM 7th GRADE.
09:07:23AM >> HI, I AM ANGELIQUE COOK, AND I AM IN 7th GRADE.
09:07:28AM >> ARLENE CARPENTER IN 7th GRADE.
09:07:33AM >> I AM SIENNA, AND I AM IN 7th GRADE.
09:07:36AM >> HI, ISLA AND I AM IN 7thth GRADE.
09:07:41AM >> I AM CLAUDIA BERGEN AND I AM IN 7th GRADE.
09:07:45AM >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S NEW INTERN FOR THE DAY.
09:07:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL HAVE A SECOND INTERN IN A MINUTE.
09:07:49AM >> YES.
09:07:51AM >> I AM MENARA, AND I AM IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:07:56AM >> I AM ANDREW TUCKER IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:07:58AM >> HI, I AM OLIVIA METIKA IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:08:05AM >> HI, I AM ISAAC MARTINEZ, AND I AM IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:08:09AM >> HI, I AM HUDSON, AND I AM IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:08:14AM >> HI, I AM NORA, AND I AM IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:08:20AM >> HI, ELLIS KING, AND I AM IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:08:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE
09:08:27AM TODAY.
09:08:27AM THE OLD SAYING THAT YOUTH IS MY FUTURE.
09:08:30AM I BELIEVE YOUTH IS HERE AND RIGHT NOW.
09:08:32AM MISS BIEBEL.
09:08:35AM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM IN AND I HOPE YOU TAKE AWAY
09:08:38AM SOMETHING TODAY THAT YOU WILL LEARN ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT,
09:08:41AM HOW IT WORKS, HOW IT RUNS AND THE DECISION WE MAKE.
09:08:44AM AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
09:08:46AM ALL RIGHT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADOPTING THE
09:08:53AM MINUTES OF APRIL 11 AND APRIL 13.
09:08:56AM WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:08:59AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:09:02AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:09:03AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:09:05AM MOTION PASSES.
09:09:06AM SHOULD WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM.
09:09:08AM ALL RIGHT, LET'S START WITH -- EXCUSE ME.
09:09:19AM STAFF REPORTS.
09:09:20AM I AM COMING.
09:09:31AM I'M HERE.
09:09:32AM OUR 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING REVIEW.
09:09:39AM WE CAN'T OPEN THAT NOW, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE
09:09:43AM CONTINUED.
09:09:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING A REQUEST TO
09:09:48AM CONTINUE THAT ITEM.
09:09:49AM THAT ITEM, MADAM CLERK, ITEM 67.
09:09:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED --
09:09:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOT TO DO IT AT 1:30.
09:09:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THOSE MONITORING THE HEARING THAT THERE
09:09:59AM WILL BE A REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE ON THE 1:30.
09:10:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
09:10:04AM CHIEF BENNETT WILL NOT BE HERE, HOWEVER, MISS JEAN DUNCAN
09:10:10AM HAS BEEN ASKED TO FILL IN FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
09:10:13AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 69.
09:10:15AM I BELIEVE THAT IS ALSO GOING TO SAY ON THE AGENDA.
09:10:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
09:10:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER -- NUMBER 70.
09:10:23AM THAT IS ALSO -- THEY ARE GOING TO BE HEARD TOGETHER.
09:10:27AM 71.
09:10:28AM WE GOT A MEMO FROM ABBYE FEELEY ON THAT.
09:10:31AM THAT IS ALSO STAYING.
09:10:35AM NUMBER 72.
09:10:36AM COUNCILMAN VIERA?
09:10:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW, I AM FINE WITH A WRITTEN REPORT.
09:10:43AM WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S FINE.
09:10:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SO WE WILL LEAVE IT OFTEN THE AGENDA.
09:10:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO APPEARANCES NECESSARY BY TAMPA POLICE.
09:10:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:10:53AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 73.
09:10:55AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:10:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
09:10:57AM I READ THE STAFF REPORT.
09:10:59AM CAN WE JUST CONTINUE THIS FOR SIX MONTHS JUST TO GET AN
09:11:02AM UPDATE.
09:11:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
09:11:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A DATE, PLEASE.
09:11:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE A DATE?
09:11:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW ABOUT --
09:11:09AM >>CLERK: OCTOBER 5.
09:11:12AM >>BILL CARLSON: PERFECT, OCTOBER 5.
09:11:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:11:17AM A SECOND.
09:11:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
09:11:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:11:21AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:11:23AM MOTION PASSES.
09:11:24AM >> TEAM ITEM NUMBER 74.
09:11:27AM >> I AM FINE WITH A REPORT AND MAKE A MOTION TO COME BACK
09:11:30AM FOR US.
09:11:31AM BUT I DON'T NEED STAFF HERE.
09:11:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 75.
09:11:34AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:11:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, PLEASE.
09:11:37AM WE READ THE REPORT BUT WILL BE GOOD TO JUST HAVE SHORT
09:11:42AM DISCUSSION.
09:11:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 76.
09:11:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO -- IT IS A PRESENTATION
09:11:48AM SO, YES, I WANT FOLKS HERE.
09:11:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:11:50AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 77.
09:11:52AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:11:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:11:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 78.
09:11:57AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
09:11:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON IT.
09:12:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A RESOLUTION TO THAT.
09:12:04AM 79, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
09:12:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
09:12:09AM REMOVE 79 FROM THE AGENDA.
09:12:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO REMOVE
09:12:14AM ITEM 79, 81300.
09:12:19AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:12:21AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:12:23AM OPPOSED?
09:12:25AM MOTION PASSES.
09:12:26AM NUMBER 80, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:12:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:12:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 81 AND 82 THAT I BELIEVE ARE BEING REQUESTED
09:12:33AM TO BE CONTINUED UNTIL APRIL 27.
09:12:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED TO CONTINUE TO APRIL 27.
09:12:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:12:41AM 2380224 AND 82, CM 23-79913 TO BE CONTINUED TO APRIL 27,
09:12:52AM 2023.
09:12:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEM 83 FOR MAY 25.
09:12:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ON 81 AND 82.
09:13:00AM YOU MADE THE MOTION.
09:13:01AM WHO SECONDED THAT MOTION?
09:13:04AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:13:04AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:13:06AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:13:08AM BOTH MOTIONS PASSED.
09:13:09AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 83.
09:13:11AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:13:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE TO MAY 25, 2023 AS
09:13:15AM REQUESTED.
09:13:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
09:13:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT WAS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER --
09:13:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 83.
09:13:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:13:30AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:13:31AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:13:32AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:13:34AM MOTION CARRIES.
09:13:36AM I BELIEVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 84 HAS BEEN ASKED TO BE
09:13:40AM CONTINUED --
09:13:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVED TO CONDITION TO AUGUST 24, 2023.
09:13:44AM >> SECOND.
09:13:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 84, 69890
09:13:51AM TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:13:53AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:13:55AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:13:56AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:13:58AM MOTION CARRIES.
09:13:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE
09:14:04AM ADDENDUM.
09:14:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:14:08AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:14:09AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:14:10AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:14:12AM MOTION CARRIES.
09:14:13AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:14:16AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, FILE NUMBER CM 23-80349.
09:14:22AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:14:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
09:14:24AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:14:41AM I HAVE HERE -- IF YOU WANT, YOUR GROUP CAN COME UP.
09:14:45AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:14:51AM A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO TALK TO EVERYBODY
09:14:54AM HERE.
09:14:54AM I WANTED TO INTRODUCE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:15:00AM YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THESE WONDERFUL FOLKS IN THE NEWS.
09:15:02AM WE HAVE HERE MR. GREG JONES ROAR WHO IS AN ATTORNEY AND
09:15:05AM PARTNER WITH RELIANT AND ALVAREZ.
09:15:08AM HE IS BOARD CERTIFIED IN CIVIL TRIAL LAW AND A WELL-KNOWN
09:15:12AM AND RESPECTED ATTORNEY HERE IN THE TAMPA AREA.
09:15:14AM MR. JONES SERVES IN MANY CAPACITIES INCLUDING BEING HERE
09:15:18AM TODAY.
09:15:18AM BUT A CAPACITY THAT I HAVE TO MENTION, THE PROBLEM THAT THE
09:15:22AM FORUM IS CAPACITY FOR HE IS A DEACON AT THE BAYSHORE BAPTIST
09:15:26AM CHURCH ON THE MISSIONS COMMITTEE.
09:15:27AM GREG, MR. JONES, LAUNCHED A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION BY THE
09:15:31AM NAME OF C.U.P., WHICH IS COFFEE UNITING PEOPLE.
09:15:35AM COFFEE UNITING PEOPLE ALL-INCLUSIVE COFFEE SHOPS AND EMPLOYS
09:15:40AM PEOPLE WITH ALL ABILITIES, INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, AUTISM
09:15:46AM AND PHYSICAL AND INTELLECTUAL CHALLENGES.
09:15:48AM HE DOES IT FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS, AND THE FACT THAT
09:15:51AM FOUR OUT OF FIVE PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES ARE
09:15:56AM UNEMPLOYED OR UNDEREMPLOYED AND SET AN EXAMPLE FOR DIFFERENT
09:16:00AM ENTITIES IN THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR.
09:16:03AM SOMETHING WE ARE DEALING BACK IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO MAKE
09:16:06AM SURE ENTITIES ARE INCLUSIVE IN THE HIRING PRACTICES OF
09:16:10AM HIRING PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND INTELLECTUAL
09:16:14AM DISABILITY AND IT YOU IT FOR A LARGER PRINCIPLE THAT WE ALL
09:16:18AM BELONG, NO MATTER WHO WE ARE, WHERE WE COME FROM, WHAT OUR
09:16:22AM ABILITIES ARE, WE ARE ENTITLED TO RESPECT AND DIGNITY.
09:16:25AM I WANTED MR. JONES AND HIS TEAM TO TALK OF THE WONDERFUL
09:16:29AM WORK THEY DO THROUGH C.U.P. AND MOTIONS TO HAVE THE CITY OF
09:16:35AM TAMPA TO HAVE THEM OUTSIDE ON CITY PROPERTY SELLING THEIR
09:16:38AM COFFEE TO FOLKS TO FURTHER SPREAD THEIR WONDERFUL MESSAGE.
09:16:42AM GREG, TAKE IT AWAY.
09:16:44AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:16:46AM GOOD MORNING.
09:16:46AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE KIND WORDS.
09:16:49AM I WANT TO INTRODUCE MY TEAM.
09:16:51AM PART OF MY TEAM.
09:16:52AM THIS IS JANE.
09:16:55AM EXCUSE ME.
09:16:55AM ELLIE BROWN, ONE OF OUR FIRST EMPLOYEES.
09:16:58AM AND ALSO ON THE BOARD.
09:17:00AM MY WIFE, LAURA, WHO IS A BOARD MEMBER AND LAURIE HUNT ON OUR
09:17:04AM BOARD AND LAURIE'S SON, HENRY, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE
09:17:08AM STARTED THIS ORGANIZATION.
09:17:09AM NOT JUST ME BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.
09:17:12AM A GROUP.
09:17:12AM IT TAKES A TEAM EFFORT.
09:17:14AM WE ARE ALL RUNNING THE BOAT IN THE SAME DIRECTION, WE SAY.
09:17:17AM WE STARTED AN ORGANIZATION CALLED C.U.P., A NONPROFIT.
09:17:22AM OPENED UP OUR FIRST SHOP EMBARK COLLECTIVE AND COME SEE US
09:17:27AM ON WHITING AND JEFFERSON STREET.
09:17:30AM THE FIRST INCLUSIVE COFFEE HOUSE IN TAMPA.
09:17:32AM HOPEFULLY MORE TO COME.
09:17:33AM WE WANT TO BE THE STARBUCKS OF SPECIAL NEEDS COFFEE HOUSES.
09:17:36AM PER EMPLOYING INDIVIDUALS AS COUNCILMAN TOLD US OF ALL
09:17:41AM ABILITIES.
09:17:41AM AND MAINLY THOSE WITH INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL
09:17:46AM DISABILITIES BUT OPEN TO ALL.
09:17:48AM WE HAVE GREAT PLANS.
09:17:50AM GOAL IS TO SPREAD KNOWLEDGE OF THE INCLUSIVE DISABILITY
09:17:54AM COMMUNITY IN TAMPA.
09:17:55AM AND WE ARE EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.
09:17:57AM AND I ALSO WANTED TO RECOGNIZE PHYLLIS GUTMANN WHO IS HERE
09:18:02AM ALSO FROM McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER ONE OF OUR PARTNERS AND
09:18:07AM PHYLLIS HAS BEEN WITH US FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME.
09:18:09AM WE ARE TREMENDOUSLY EXCITED AND WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY THAT
09:18:13AM COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS GIVEN TO US POSSIBLY OF SELLING COFFEE
09:18:16AM OUT IN FRONT OF THE CITY HALL HERE.
09:18:18AM WE HAVE PLANS TO OPEN UP OUR SECOND LOCATION ON SOUTH DALE
09:18:22AM MABRY AND EL PRADO IN JUNE.
09:18:24AM SO, HOPEFULLY YOU WILL BE ABLE TO STOP BY.
09:18:28AM AND WE HAVE PLANS TO GO ELSEWHERE IN TAMPA DOWN THE ROAD AND
09:18:31AM WE JUST GOT BIG PLANS TO -- TO DEVELOP AND EXPLORE AND
09:18:36AM EXPAND OUR MISSION.
09:18:37AM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
09:18:40AM I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE LONG MEETINGS AND HAVE TO BE
09:18:44AM CAFFEINATED SO WE BRING GIFTS.
09:18:46AM SO I DON'T KNOW WHO TO GIVE IT TO.
09:18:48AM I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU, LEWIS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
09:18:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY KIND.
09:18:53AM >> COFFEE BAGS FOR EACH OF YOU FROM C.U.P.
09:18:56AM THERE YOU GO.
09:18:57AM HOPE YOU CAN BREW THOSE AND ENJOY OUR -- OUR JOE AND COME BY
09:19:02AM AND SEE US SOME TIME IN EMBARK COLLECTIVE CENTER.
09:19:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:19:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY ELSE.
09:19:09AM GREG WANT TO SPEAK?
09:19:10AM ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK?
09:19:12AM ARE YOU SURE?
09:19:13AM OKAY, GREAT.
09:19:13AM SO I -- I ALSO WANTED TO PRESENT, IF I MAY, A TAMPA CITY
09:19:19AM COUNCIL COMMENDATION OF THE WONDERFUL WORK YOU HAVE ON IT
09:19:22AM AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO.
09:19:22AM GREG, MY HAT IS ALWAYS OFF TO YOU.
09:19:24AM I THINK YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE ATTORNEYS WHO TAKES ON PUBLIC
09:19:27AM SERVICE IN MANY WAYS.
09:19:29AM WE SEE SO MANY ATTORNEYS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
09:19:31AM SAM GIBBONS.
09:19:32AM JIM DAVIS.
09:19:33AM LANCE SCRIVEN.
09:19:35AM AND YOU CERTAINTY ARE ONE OF THE CHAMPIONS FOR YOU GUYS.
09:19:38AM GOD BLESS YOU.
09:19:39AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:19:40AM [APPLAUSE]
09:19:46AM >> THANKS, FOLKS.
09:19:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
09:19:50AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR BEEF BRINGING THESE GREAT
09:19:53AM FOLKS HERE.
09:19:53AM YOU SAY DALE MABRY AND EL PRADO.
09:19:56AM VACANT CORNER BUILDING.
09:19:58AM >> FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, A PINCH-A-PENNY ON THE NORTHEAST
09:20:02AM CORNER.
09:20:03AM WE ARE JUST THE NEXT BLOCK OFF BETWEEN AND VILLA.
09:20:09AM A WHITE BUILDING AND WE WILL BE IN THERE HOPEFULLY BY END OF
09:20:14AM JUNE.
09:20:15AM ONE BLOCK NORTH OF DALE MABRY AND EL PRADO.
09:20:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:20:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM A LITTLE MORE AWAKE BECAUSE THE SMELL IS
09:20:25AM AMAZING.
09:20:25AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:20:26AM THIS IS A FABULOUS PROGRAM.
09:20:28AM A WONDERFUL IDEA, AND I BELIEVE YOU ARE HAVING A FUNDRAISER
09:20:33AM FRIDAY ANY?
09:20:35AM >> SO WE ARE.
09:20:35AM TOMORROW NIGHT OVER AT BEEF O'BRADY'S OVER AT MacDILL AND
09:20:41AM BAY TO BAY.
09:20:42AM SO FROM 5 TO 8:00 -- 5 TO CLOSING, BEEF'S IS GOING TO DONATE
09:20:46AM 20% OF ALL THE PROCEEDS TO C.U.P.
09:20:48AM SO ANYBODY WHO HAS A CHANCE TO WANT TO COME OVER AND GET A
09:20:52AM HAMBURGER AND WHATNOT, YOUR SUPPORT WILL GO TOWARD OUR
09:20:57AM ORGANIZATION.
09:20:57AM TO THAT POINT, THE SUPPORT WE RECEIVED FROM THE TAMPA AREA
09:21:01AM COMMUNITY, SOUTH TAMPA AND BEYOND HAS BEEN OVERWHELMING.
09:21:04AM AND THAT WILL BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
09:21:07AM WE ARE EXTREMELY FORTUNATE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY ALSO.
09:21:11AM TOMORROW NIGHT AT BEEF O'BRADY'S.
09:21:14AM 5:00.
09:21:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.
09:21:16AM YOU ALL ARE DOING AMAZING WORK.
09:21:18AM AND THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO GROW THIS IS PHENOMENAL.
09:21:22AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:21:23AM YOUR HARD WORK IS CERTAINLY NOTED.
09:21:25AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:21:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU TOMORROW NIGHT.
09:21:29AM >> ALL RIGHT, AWESOME.
09:21:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:21:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CITRO.
09:21:36AM MY HONOR AND PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU AND GOOD FOLKS.
09:21:39AM I SEE YOUR COFFEE IS MADE BY THE BRISK COMPANY.
09:21:44AM >> IT IS.
09:21:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH THE FOUNDER OF THE
09:21:49AM COFFEE WHEN WE WERE TEENAGERS IN HIGH SCHOOL IN JEFFERSON.
09:21:52AM CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO GIVE
09:21:58AM EVERYBODY A CHANCE GIVING A LEG UP AND NOT A PUSH DOWN.
09:22:00AM >> DENISE REDDICK WITH BRISK HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL PARTNER
09:22:04AM WITH US.
09:22:04AM AND PART OF OUR STORY IS WE HAD SO MANY VENDORS AND
09:22:08AM CONSTRUCTION TEAMS AND MEMBERS AND WHATNOT WHO DONATED
09:22:11AM SERVICES AND DOING IT AT DISCOUNT FOR OUR CAUSE.
09:22:14AM AND DENISE WAS THERE FROM THE GET-GO.
09:22:17AM WE ARE VERY APPRECIATE I HAVE IT TO HAVE DENISE AND BRISK
09:22:21AM COFFEE WITH US.
09:22:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:22:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: A GREAT IDEA.
09:22:26AM THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND KEEP
09:22:29AM US POSTED HOW WE CAN HELP AND IF THERE ARE EVENTS LIKE THE
09:22:32AM ONES TOMORROW NIGHT TO PROMOTE, SEND THEM TO US SO WE CAN
09:22:35AM POST THEM AND PROMOTE THEM.
09:22:36AM THANK YOU.
09:22:37AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:22:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU KNOW, MY FRIEND, I HAVE KNOWN YOU FOR
09:22:41AM MANY, MANY YEARS AND I LEARNED MORE ABOUT YOU TODAY THAN I
09:22:45AM HAVE OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS.
09:22:47AM YOU ARE A GREAT PERSON.
09:22:48AM AND THIS IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION THAT YOU BELONG TO.
09:22:51AM AND WITH.
09:22:52AM AND HELPING PEOPLE THAT MAYBE OVERLOOKED.
09:22:56AM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE AND I THANK YOU FOR THIS
09:22:59AM WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION.
09:23:00AM I CAN'T WAIT TO TASTE SOME.
09:23:01AM IT IS GOING TO BE GREAT TO GET A GOOD CAFE CON LECHE SOUTH
09:23:08AM -- SOUTH OF BAY TO BAY.
09:23:10AM THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
09:23:13AM THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HARD WORK YOU DO.
09:23:15AM >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN
09:23:16AM [APPLAUSE]
09:23:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND NEXT, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I WANT TO
09:23:35AM INVITE MR. JOSHUA FELDER WHO IS HERE.
09:23:39AM WE HAVE A FILM, ONE-MINUTE SNIPPET FROM THE VIDEO ON THE
09:23:43AM "TODAY SHOW."
09:23:44AM IF I.T. CAN PLAY THAT BRIEFLY.
09:23:47AM >> OH, YEAH, WE DID.
09:23:54AM >> I FELT LIKE IT WAS -- ONE OF THE BEST SUMMER CAMPS I EVER
09:23:58AM HAVE BEEN TO.
09:23:59AM >> YOU CAN GET A LOT OF SCRIPTS.
09:24:01AM YOU ARE AT A PLACE IN YOUR CAREER WHERE YOU CAN PICK AND
09:24:04AM CHOOSE.
09:24:04AM WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO DO THIS MOVIE.
09:24:07AM >> I WATCHED THE SPANISH MOVIE.
09:24:09AM THIS IS A REMAKE.
09:24:11AM I SAID OH, I AM IN.
09:24:12AM SUCH A BEAUTIFUL STORY.
09:24:13AM SO FUNNY.
09:24:14AM SO BRILLIANT.
09:24:15AM ONCE I MET ALL THESE GUYS THE FIRST DAY, I SAID, OH, WE ARE
09:24:19AM GOING TO BE IN GOOD SHAPE.
09:24:21AM SPEAKING OF GOOD SHAPE, HOW IS WOODY'S BASKETBALL.
09:24:25AM STILL PLAYING PRETTY WELL?
09:24:28AM >> I ALWAYS KNEW HE WAS A GOOD BALL PLAYER IN THE MOVIE
09:24:31AM "WHITE MAN CAN'T JUMP."
09:24:34AM >> STUDIOS AUDITIONED HUNDREDS LOOKING TO HIRE DISABLED
09:24:39AM ACTORS.
09:24:39AM >> RIGHT AWAY I CALLED MY DAD, AND I SAID, DAD, YOU WILL NOT
09:24:43AM BELIEVE IT.
09:24:43AM I AM IN A MOVIE WITH WOODY.
09:24:45AM HE ALSO FREAKED OUT WHEN I TOLD HIM.
09:24:47AM >> I WAS SHOCKED.
09:24:48AM I STARTED DOING A LITTLE DANCE.
09:24:51AM I SAID I AM GOT A ROLE IN A HOLLYWOOD MOVE WHOO!
09:25:00AM >> I HEARD YOUR SCENE WAS THE KARAOKE TEAM.
09:25:03AM >> HAD THE BEST TIME EVER.
09:25:06AM  KNOCK DOWN YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO KEEP ME DOWN 
09:25:12AM  KEEP ME UP AGAIN 
09:25:15AM >> THE MOVIE IS JOYFUL AND FUNNY.
09:25:17AM >> WHAT IS WITH THE BOOGIE BOARD.
09:25:20AM >> THIS GUY JUST SHOWED UP.
09:25:22AM >> OKAY --
09:25:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, GREAT.
09:25:24AM MY PLEASURE TO HAVE HERE.
09:25:26AM I HAVE PHYLLIS GUTMANN FROM McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER WHO
09:25:30AM CAME HERE FOR THIS AS WELL AS C.U.P.
09:25:32AM AND JOSHUA FELDER IS A VERY REMARKABLE YOUNG MAN.
09:25:35AM HE IS FROM HERE IN TAMPA AND A GRADUATE OF HILLSBOROUGH HIGH
09:25:38AM SCHOOL WHO GREW UP IN THE TAMPA AREA AS A YOUNG MAN.
09:25:41AM JOSH WAS BULLIED BECAUSE OF -- IN PART, BECAUSE OF A SPEED
09:25:46AM IMPEDIMENT HE HAD AND DIFFERENT CHALLENGES.
09:25:48AM JOSH HAS A SO-CALLED HIGH FUNCTIONING AUTISM OR ASPERGER'S
09:25:53AM IF YOU WILL.
09:25:54AM HIS FAMILY AND HIS MOM AND DAD ALWAYS BELIEVED IN HIM.
09:25:56AM JOSH HAS GROWN INTO A FINE YOUNG MAN WHO SHOWS THE WORLD
09:25:59AM WHAT HE CAN DO WHEN HE SIMPLY HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY.
09:26:01AM AND BOY, WHAT THIS YOUNG MAN HAS DONE IS QUITE REMARKABLE.
09:26:05AM BEFORE HE GOT HIS START IN THE MOVIE WITH WOODY HARRELSON
09:26:09AM AND NUMEROUS OTHER ACTORS, JOSH'S FIRST BRUSH WITH FAME WAS
09:26:13AM OUR SUPER BOWL HERE IN TAMPA WHEN HE WAS ONE OF 200 DANCERS
09:26:18AM OUT AT THE SUPER BOWL MIMICKING MOVES BASED ON HEROES
09:26:21AM MICHAEL JACKSON, CHRIS BROWN, USHER AND OTHERS.
09:26:24AM FOR 15 YEARS, JOSH HAS BEEN AN AMBASSADOR WITH BEST BUDDIES
09:26:28AM HERE IN TAMPA HOW WE MET SOME YEARS AGO AND WORKS AT HOLLAND
09:26:32AM AND KNIGHT AS A STAFF MEMBER THERE.
09:26:34AM THAT WHOLE WOODY HARRELSON THING THAT HAPPENED.
09:26:36AM JOSH HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAR IN THE MOVIE "CHAMPIONS"
09:26:40AM WITH WOODY HARRELSON A LEGENDARY ACTOR.
09:26:43AM A-LISTER.
09:26:45AM "NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN."
09:26:48AM "WHITE MEN CAN'T JUMP."
09:26:51AM "PLANET OF THE APES."
09:26:54AM "ZOMBIE LAND."
09:26:57AM AND A MOVIE ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A BRUSH WITH THE LAW
09:27:00AM AND HAS TO COACH A SPECIAL OLYMPICS BASKETBALL TEAM AND
09:27:04AM LEARNS A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT LIFE.
09:27:07AM JOSH CO-STARS IN THAT MOVIE.
09:27:09AM WE ARE VERY, VERY PROUD OF JOSH AND ALL THE HARD WORK HE HAS
09:27:14AM DONE DOING THIS.
09:27:14AM STARRING IN A MOVIE WITH WOODY HARRELSON.
09:27:18AM YOU ARE AN AMBASSADOR OF WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO AND GIVEN A
09:27:23AM CHANCE TO FULFILL THEIR GOD-GIVEN POTENTIAL.
09:27:27AM WITH THAT, WE GIVE YOU THIS CITY OF TAMPA COMMENDATION.
09:27:31AM THANK YOU, BUDDY.
09:27:33AM IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
09:27:34AM >> THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING ME ALL MY LIFE.
09:27:39AM IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE, "CHAMPIONS" YET, NOT A
09:27:43AM PROBLEM.
09:27:43AM YOU CAN WATCH IT IN THEATRES OR STREAM IT ONLINE
09:27:46AM [APPLAUSE]
09:27:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:27:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK YOUR SHIRT SAYS IT ALL.
09:28:01AM YOU ARE A CHAMPION.
09:28:03AM >> THANK YOU.
09:28:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUMPED OVER HURDLE THAT I COULDN'T JUMP
09:28:09AM OVER AND YOU MADE IT TO THE BIG TEN WITH THE MOVIE ACTORS,
09:28:13AM HARRELSON AND THE REST OF THEM, A FANTASTIC THING TO DO AND
09:28:18AM SOMETHING YOU WILL CHERISH THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
09:28:20AM HOPEFULLY YOU WILL BE IN THE SAME ROLE WHEN THEY WERE IN THE
09:28:22AM MOVIE OR MAYBE GREATER ASPIRATIONS TO BE A LEADING STAR IN
09:28:26AM ONE OF THE SITCOMS OR MOVIES OR SOMETHING.
09:28:28AM BECAUSE YOU GOT A HEAD START THAT MOST OF US DON'T HAVE A
09:28:31AM CHANCE TO DO AND YOU DID IT ONLY BECAUSE WHY OF YOUR HARD
09:28:34AM WORK, DETERMINATION AN A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A WINNER AND A
09:28:37AM LOSER.
09:28:37AM AND A LOSER GETS UP AND TRIES TO WIN.
09:28:40AM NOT THAT YOU WERE A LOSER, I AM SAYING THE DIFFERENCE I AM
09:28:44AM MAKING IN COMPARISON IN LIFE.
09:28:45AM I CONGRATULATE YOU OF BEING WHO YOU ARE.
09:28:47AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:28:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:28:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CONGRATULATIONS, YOUNG MAN.
09:28:53AM I GUARANTEE YOU IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE, WASN'T IT?
09:28:57AM >> IT WAS FUN.
09:28:57AM SOMETHING I WILL NEVER FORGET ABOUT.
09:29:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN IMAGINE WORKING WITH WOODY HARRELSON.
09:29:05AM AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR DOING SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WON'T HAVE
09:29:09AM A CHANCE TO DO, BEING IN A MOVIE.
09:29:11AM >> YOU DON'T GET MUCH ACTORS FROM TAMPA, SO -- [LAUGHTER]
09:29:15AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE GOT ONE NOW.
09:29:17AM HOW ABOUT THAT.
09:29:17AM >> YEAH, EXACTLY.
09:29:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:29:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:29:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CONGRATULATIONS.
09:29:23AM SO WONDERFUL TO HAVE A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE FROM TAMPA
09:29:26AM GETTING OUT THERE AND SHOWING WHAT THE CITY IS ALL ABOUT.
09:29:29AM SO CONGRATULATIONS.
09:29:31AM I LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING THIS MOVIE AND SEEING YOU IN MANY
09:29:35AM MORE.
09:29:35AM >> YES, THANK YOU.
09:29:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:29:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANKS.
09:29:39AM THANKS FOR THE INSPIRATION.
09:29:41AM A GREAT WAY TO START THE DAY.
09:29:43AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR RECOGNIZING THIS YOUNG MAN.
09:29:45AM THIS -- WHAT AN AWESOME EXPERIENCE.
09:29:48AM YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND YOU ARE YOUNG.
09:29:51AM THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
09:29:54AM SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR INSPIRING US.
09:29:58AM >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
09:30:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:30:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: EVERYBODY GROWING UP WANTS TO BE A MOVIE
09:30:07AM STAR AND YOU HAVE DONE THAT.
09:30:08AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:30:09AM AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, YOU ARE JUMPING OVER HURDLES
09:30:13AM THAT WE CAN'T JUMP.
09:30:14AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS.
09:30:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JOSHUA, YOU GOT TO HANG OUT WITH WOODY
09:30:20AM HARRELSON.
09:30:20AM >> YEAH, I DID.
09:30:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAN.
09:30:23AM MAN.
09:30:23AM YOU ARE A RISING SO QUICKLY ON THE LADDER OF SUCCESS.
09:30:26AM AND IT IS BECAUSE OF YOUR HARD WORK AND BECAUSE YOU WANT TO
09:30:33AM ACHIEVE.
09:30:33AM BUT, REMEMBER, THAT SAME LADDER, THERE ARE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU
09:30:37AM WANTING THE SAME TYPE OF SUCCESS.
09:30:39AM REMEMBER TO HELP THEM COME UP THAT LADDER.
09:30:41AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
09:30:42AM CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL YOU ACHIEVED AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD,
09:30:46AM BROTHER.
09:30:47AM >> YES, SIR.
09:30:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
09:30:49AM PHYLLIS, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING?
09:30:52AM >> SURE.
09:30:53AM CONGRATULATIONS FIRST, JOSH.
09:30:54AM I HAVE TO SAY IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE, DON'T DELAY.
09:30:58AM JOSH IS ACTUALLY A TAMPA INFLUENCER FOR OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE
09:31:03AM IN THE DIVISIONALS OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
09:31:05AM HE IS SHOWING EVERYONE WHAT CAN BE DONE, THE POSSIBILITIES.
09:31:08AM AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU, CHAIR, THAT HE CAN HELP
09:31:12AM BRING OTHERS ALONG JUST BY BEING SO VISIBLE IN THE PUBLIC.
09:31:17AM THE MOVIE IS BRILLIANT.
09:31:19AM I WAS VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED BECAUSE IT FOCUSED ON
09:31:24AM INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES THAT ARE ADULTS.
09:31:26AM THEY TREAT THEM LIKE ADULTS.
09:31:27AM THEY ARE ALLOWED TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES AS ADULTS WITH ADULTS
09:31:31AM LANGUAGE .
09:31:32AM IT WAS JUST A VERY PLEASANT SURPRISE TO SEE A WELL-DONE
09:31:36AM MOVIE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
09:31:38AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL AND COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR HAVING HIM.
09:31:40AM AND MANY CONGRATULATIONS, MY FRIEND.
09:31:43AM >> THANK YOU.
09:31:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I SHOW THIS ON THE ELMO, IF I MAY.
09:31:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT IS ALREADY UP THERE.
09:31:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT WAS THE POSTER.
09:31:51AM FUNNY, I DISCOVERED THIS -- I WAS IN THE MOVIE THEATRE
09:31:55AM WALKING WITH MY SON AND I SAW THIS POSTER, AND I SAID THAT
09:32:01AM IS JOSH.
09:32:01AM I HAD NO IDEA.
09:32:02AM IT WAS FUNNY.
09:32:03AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:32:04AM [APPLAUSE]
09:32:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AT THIS TIME, WE WILL NOW BE TAKING PUBLIC
09:32:20AM COMMENT.
09:32:21AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT,
09:32:25AM PLEASE COME FORWARD.
09:32:26AM IF YOU WILL FORM A LINE ON MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT.
09:32:34AM REMEMBER YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:32:36AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
09:32:39AM YES, MA'AM.
09:32:41AM >> GOOD MORNING, GREETINGS.
09:32:43AM DOMINIQUE COBB.
09:32:45AM I AM A RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER IN EAST TAMPA.
09:32:48AM AND MULTIGENERATIONAL TAMPANIAN.
09:32:54AM I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE MY GREAT GRANDFATHER HERSCHEL HATTON
09:33:01AM WAS A PRODUCE MERCHANT IN YBOR CITY.
09:33:05AM ALSO HE PAVED AND LAID BRICKWORK DOWN NEBRASKA AVENUE.
09:33:10AM MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER, HELEN MUSE, ALSO -- SHE WAS THE -- SHE
09:33:17AM UP KEPT THE APPEARANCE, THE HOMES OF POLITICIANS ON BAYSHORE
09:33:22AM BOULEVARD.
09:33:22AM MY GRANDMOTHER BEATRICE COLE ALSO HELPED IN THE SEAFOOD
09:33:28AM INDUSTRY IF YOU LIVED IN TAMPA IF YOU ATE FROM SINGLETON, MY
09:33:31AM FAMILY WAS A PART OF THAT.
09:33:33AM TODAY I COME BECAUSE MY GRANDMOTHER IS BURIED IN MEMORIAL
09:33:38AM PARK.
09:33:38AM BACK IN JANUARY OF 2023, THAT PROPERTY WAS SOLD TO A FLIPPER
09:33:46AM FOR $18,000.
09:33:47AM AND IT WAS ALSO BIDDED AGAINST BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:33:52AM DURING MY -- DURING MY TIME HERE, I HAVE VOLUNTEERED ON MANY
09:33:56AM BOARDS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:33:57AM AND RECENTLY AS OF JULY '22, WE MADE A REQUEST FROM CITY
09:34:03AM COUNCIL, HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY
09:34:06AM TO ASSIST IN PURCHASING THE PROPERTY OF MEMORIAL PARK.
09:34:13AM TO MY DISMAY, THAT WAS SOLD UNDER OUR NOSE, AND WE DO NOT
09:34:16AM KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE FINAL RESTING PLACE FOR OUR
09:34:20AM LOVED ONES.
09:34:21AM TODAY, I COME WITH NOT SO GOOD IN US BECAUSE I HAVE A FAMILY
09:34:25AM FRIEND WHO RECENTLY SUFFERED A LOSS.
09:34:30AM AND THEIR GRANDPARENTS AND LOVED ONES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
09:34:34AM BURIED IN THAT PLOT.
09:34:36AM AS OF NOW, THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE
09:34:39AM OWNERS.
09:34:39AM AND THE FUNERAL HOME WHICH IS AIKENS, ALL THEY NEED IS
09:34:44AM ASSISTANCE TO FIND OUT IF SHE CAN BE BURIED THERE BEFORE THE
09:34:48AM 29th.
09:34:48AM WE HAVE TRIED REACHING OUT TO NUMEROUS ENTITIES,
09:34:53AM MUNICIPALITIES, THERE HAS BEEN NO HOPE.
09:34:55AM AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY OF EAST TAMPA, THAT IS THE HEART OF
09:34:59AM TAMPA IF YOU WERE TO DO A LAND SCAN AND SCOPE, THAT IS THE
09:35:04AM HEART OF TAMPA AS YOU KNOW, DISTRICT 5 IS -- WE ARE IN
09:35:10AM DISREPAIR.
09:35:11AM THERE ARE HOUSING CRISIS.
09:35:13AM THERE ARE ENTITIES MEANT TO HELP US AND ARE ABUSING THEIR
09:35:17AM POWER.
09:35:17AM WE NEED ASSISTANCE.
09:35:18AM AND TO WRAP IT UP, I KNOW I AM ONLY ONE PERSON.
09:35:23AM DUE TO EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, YOU HAVE A VOICE.
09:35:26AM YOU HAVE POWER.
09:35:27AM USE YOUR VOICE.
09:35:28AM GO OUT AND VOTE.
09:35:30AM WRITE A LETTER.
09:35:31AM HAVE SOMEONE ADVOCATE FOR YOU.
09:35:33AM IF YOU DO NOT DO THAT, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO ERASE THE BLACK
09:35:37AM HISTORY THAT IS IN TAMPA THANK YOU.
09:35:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:35:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:35:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I SAW THAT E-MAIL AND I TALKED TO THE
09:35:51AM FAMILY MEMBER AND MISS TRAVIS IN REFERENCE WHAT NEEDS TO BE
09:35:54AM DONE.
09:35:54AM WHEN SOMEONE EXPIRES, THE FUNERAL HOME WILL BE CREMATED OR
09:35:58AM BURIED AND HAVE A BURIAL PERMIT, AND EVERYONE GETS ONE.
09:36:05AM THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW, A CEMETERY NEVER CLOSES.
09:36:08AM NEVER CLOSES.
09:36:11AM MAY STOP DOING BUREAUS AND NEVER CLOSES.
09:36:15AM SO A PERSON PURCHASES A PLOT AND GET A PURCHASE RIGHT OF
09:36:22AM THAT PLOT.
09:36:22AM AND THE FAMILY GETS THAT PLOT.
09:36:25AM THE CEMETERY IF IT IS STILL OPEN OR OPERATED WILL HAVE A
09:36:28AM RECORD OF THAT PURCHASE OF THE PLOT, BUT AS FAR AS SOMEBODY
09:36:31AM BEING BURIED, CEMETERY NEVER CLOSED.
09:36:33AM IF A FUNERAL HAPPENS SATURDAY, IT GOES TO THE -- TO THE
09:36:38AM OWNERS OF THE -- FOR EXAMPLE BEFORE YOU PULL IN, THEY ARE
09:36:44AM OUT THERE WAITING GETTING THE BURIAL PERMIT IT IS DONE.
09:36:47AM IN THIS CASE, IT IS CLOSED NO YOU.
09:36:50AM I WOULD IMAGINE THE FUNERAL HOME WILL GET THE BURIAL PERMIT
09:36:54AM AND TO GIVE THE BURIAL PERMIT TO THE OWNERS OF THE NEW
09:36:57AM PROPERTY NOW.
09:36:58AM I HAVEN'T HEARD OF NO ACCESS.
09:37:00AM I DON'T SEE ANY GATES OR ANYTHING PRECLUDING ANYBODY FROM
09:37:04AM GOING IN THERE.
09:37:04AM AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, WHEN YOU HAVE A CEMETERY THAT DOES NOT
09:37:08AM HAVE ITS -- WHAT YOU CALL OPEN AND CLOSERS SOMEBODY THAT
09:37:12AM DIGS THE GRAVE WHEN YOU GO TO THE COUNTRY IN THONOTOSASSA.
09:37:26AM AND YOU WILL GO AND CLOSE IT WITH ANOTHER COMPANY AND
09:37:29AM ENTITY.
09:37:29AM I THINK MISS TRAVIS, YOU HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE
09:37:32AM OWNER.
09:37:33AM I DON'T THINK ACCESS SHOULD BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT IS OPEN.
09:37:35AM I THINK -- FINALIZING THE PURCHASE OF THE PLOT.
09:37:40AM I THINK THAT MAY BE THE ISSUE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS THE
09:37:44AM ISSUE -- THE OWNER SINCE THE FAMILY HAS SEVERAL PLOTS THERE.
09:37:47AM TO BURY THE LOVED ONE AND MO OF ON AND HOPEFULLY IN THE
09:37:52AM FUTURE RESOLUTION RESOLVED HOW THIS WILL BE PUT FORTH BY
09:37:58AM MEMORIAL CEMETERY.
09:38:03AM MISS TRAVIS SAID ALREADY SENT THE MEMO TO THE PROPERTY OWNER
09:38:06AM AND I THINK THE FUNERAL HOME WILL GET TO THE PROPERTY OWNER
09:38:10AM AND CAN BE RESOLVED BEFORE THE 29th.
09:38:13AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:38:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
09:38:15AM >> YES, GOOD MORNING.
09:38:17AM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AND HAVE A FEW
09:38:21AM WORDS FROM GOD.
09:38:22AM THE WOMEN'S BIBLE.
09:38:24AM EVERYTHING BY MY POWER.
09:38:27AM THE LORD HAS TOLD YOU WHAT IS GOOD AND THIS IS WHAT HE
09:38:30AM REQUIRES OF YOU TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT, TO LOVE MERCY AND WALK
09:38:37AM HUMBLY BY THE GOD.
09:38:38AM PRIDE WILL RUIN PEOPLE, BUT THOSE WHO ARE HUMBLED WILL BE
09:38:42AM HONORED.
09:38:42AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MISS LITA
09:38:46AM PEREZ OF THE MINORITY ENTERPRISE WHO STUCK WITH ME ALL
09:38:50AM DURING COVID-19 GETTING ME THROUGH THE MINORITY ENTERPRISE,
09:38:57AM AND I WANT TO THANK HER FOR THAT AND ALSO, WE NEED MORE AT
09:39:02AM THE UNIVERSITY CENTER THAT MY HAND PRINTS.
09:39:08AM ALL OVER THAT.
09:39:09AM WHEN I WAS BECOMING A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND I AM A BONA
09:39:15AM FIDE COUNTY COMMISSIONER.
09:39:16AM AND WORK VERY HARD IN THAT COMMUNITY.
09:39:19AM YOU CAN ASK MISS -- COMMISSIONER WYNN BECAUSE SHE IS THE ONE
09:39:24AM THAT SIGNED MY CERTIFICATE.
09:39:25AM AND I JUST HAVE BEEN HAVING A GREAT DAY WITH THE COUNCILMAN
09:39:37AM AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, THANK YOU, AND I AM WAITING
09:39:41AM FOR THE CALL FROM CHIEF BENEFIT SO WE CAN UPDATE OUR
09:39:47AM NEIGHBORHOOD EVEN MORE LIKE THE REST OF THE GREAT PEOPLE
09:39:49AM THAT ARE DOING GREAT WORK.
09:39:50AM WE WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND DO GREAT
09:39:57AM WORK IT TOO.
09:39:57AM I THANK YOU FOR MY TIME.
09:40:00AM MR. BENNETT, I AM LOOKING FOR YOU AND WAITING FOR YOUR CALL.
09:40:06AM THANK YOU, AGAIN, AND I LOVE YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
09:40:09AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE U.S.
09:40:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GIVE US YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
09:40:12AM >> SALLYISE LEE WITH THE PENNY FUND.
09:40:18AM WE NEED HELP VERY, VERY BAD SO WE CAN OPEN UP AND THE
09:40:22AM BUILDINGS ARE SITTING THERE EMPTY FOR FIVE YEARS.
09:40:25AM I HAD A PRELEASE ON IT BEFORE COVID.
09:40:27AM SO I AM JUST WAITING FOR CHANGE TO COME FOR GOD TO WHAT HE
09:40:32AM HAS TO DO SO WE CAN BECOME A USEFUL PART OF THE COMMUNITY
09:40:36AM ALSO WITH THE REST OF THE GOOD CITIZENS.
09:40:39AM AND WE ASK ENTREPRENEURS, WE NEED THE HELP, ALL OF US.
09:40:43AM MISS CONNIE AND ALL OF US, WE NEED HELP.
09:40:46AM AND THE VOLUNTEER MISSIONARY DOES TOO.
09:40:49AM THANK YOU.
09:40:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:40:56AM >> ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, JASON MARLOW TO SPEAK ON ITEM
09:41:00AM NUMBER 76.
09:41:01AM I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR CHAMPIONING THIS
09:41:05AM BEFORE COUNCIL.
09:41:05AM POST PANDEMIC AMERICA, WE HAVE SEEN A EXPONENTIAL RISE IN
09:41:10AM FOOD INSECURITY.
09:41:11AM MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE INSULATED FROM
09:41:16AM POVERTY ONE ACCIDENT, ONE ILLNESS AWAY FROM MAKING DIFFICULT
09:41:19AM CHOICES OF PAYING BILLS OR BEING ABLE TO AFFORD FOOD ON THE
09:41:23AM TABLE.
09:41:24AM AS A FORMER SCHOOLTEACHER, I CAN SHOW HOW USELESS A CHILD
09:41:29AM CAN BECOME ON SODA, HOT DOGS AND STICKY BUNS.
09:41:36AM AND THERE ARE DROVES OF DATA THAT EXIST ON DIMINISHED I
09:41:42AM DON'T OUT COMES OF THOSE GOING AND LEAVING SCHOOLS UNDERFED
09:41:45AM AND UNDERNOURISHED.
09:41:47AM FURTHERMORE, A RACIAL COMPONENT TO THIS.
09:41:51AM STUDIES SHOW THAT BLACK AND BROWN FAMILIES ARE TWICE AS
09:41:54AM LIKELY TO BE FOOD INSECURE AS WHITE FAMILIES.
09:41:56AM EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN CLAMORING FOR A SUPERMARKET FOR EONS.
09:42:00AM I KNOW IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION LATER YOU WILL RECEIVE THE
09:42:02AM FOOD DESERTS THAT EXIST WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA EXIST
09:42:06AM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OF COLOR IN OUR CITY.
09:42:08AM IN 2020, FEEDING TAMPA BAY ESTIMATED 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE IN
09:42:11AM THE REGION WERE FOOD INSECURE.
09:42:13AM 2021, THE USDA SAID 10% OF FLORIDIAN HOUSEHOLDS ARE FOOD
09:42:21AM INSECURE.
09:42:21AM A SERIOUS ISSUE.
09:42:23AM PARTNERING WITH THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR A LITTLE
09:42:27AM INVESTMENT AND LOVE, WE CAN HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THIS
09:42:29AM ISSUE.
09:42:30AM LASTLY AGAIN.
09:42:31AM I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR BRINGING THIS
09:42:34AM FORWARD.
09:42:34AM THANKS CITY STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION WE WILL BE SEEING
09:42:37AM THIS AFTERNOON AND ENCOURAGE THIS BODY TO TAKE A FAR MORE
09:42:40AM ACTIVE ROLE IN INVESTING IN THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE
09:42:44AM CONDITIONS OF THIS CITY.
09:42:44AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:42:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:42:46AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:42:48AM IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
09:42:54AM THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ME, ANGELA ALDERMAN THE GREAT NIECE OF
09:42:59AM FRANCISCO MARTINEZ IN COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY AMONG THE LOST.
09:43:04AM I WANT TO SAY WORD ON THE COLLEGE CEMETERY SCAM IN RELATES
09:43:11AM TO A REPORT THAT CAME OUT.
09:43:12AM I HAVE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS.
09:43:13AM ARTICLE NUMBER 77.
09:43:14AM THERE WAS A SCAN DONE FEBRUARY 3 BY ARDMAN AND ASSOCIATES.
09:43:20AM PAUL GUZZO WITH "THE TAMPA TIMES" SEEN SCANNING THE LAND.
09:43:26AM REACHED OUT TO THE ITALIAN CLUB AND WAS IGNORED.
09:43:30AM HE SPOKE BRIEFLY TO SOMEONE FROM THE SURVEY COMPANY.
09:43:33AM I UNDERSTAND FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA'S LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND
09:43:36AM THE TASK FORCE REPORT THAT THE ITALIAN CLUB SAID THEY WOULD
09:43:39AM GIVE A VERBAL AGREEMENT TO A SCAN.
09:43:41AM I WILL NOT PRAISE THEM FOR A SCAN THAT THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN
09:43:46AM DONE YEARS AGO WITH A MORAL AND IMPORTANT THING TO DO.
09:43:52AM THE METHODOLOGY OF THE SCAN.
09:43:55AM WITH MUCH RESPECT TO THE SURVEYORS WHO SCANNED, I SPOKE TO
09:43:59AM AN ARCHEOLOGIST TO DOES SUCH SCANS TO LOCATE LOST GRAVES AND
09:44:06AM METHODOLOGY OF SCANS.
09:44:07AM I WANT TO KNOW THE METHODOLOGIES AND PROPER WAYS TO DISTURB
09:44:12AM THE LAND, BODY, AND GRAVES.
09:44:14AM I REQUEST THAT WHEN THE REPORT IS AVAILABLE THAT I CAN HAVE
09:44:17AM A COPY THAT I CAN SHARE WITH AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL COMPANY TO
09:44:21AM REVIEW THE RESULTS AND CONFIRM THE SCAN.
09:44:23AM I SAY THIS WITH RESPECT TO THE SURVEYORS WHO WORK HARD.
09:44:26AM NOTHING AGAINST THEM.
09:44:27AM JUST MORE ABOUT THE SCAN TO DETECT.
09:44:29AM I WOULD LIKE TO ADD WHEN THE RESULTS COME IN, IF THERE WAS
09:44:37AM DISTURBANCE OF THE LAND AND THE GRAVES DETECTED IN THE GPS
09:44:42AM SCAN, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A ARCHAEOLOGICAL SURVEY TO BE
09:44:47AM CONDUCTED.
09:44:47AM I UNDERSTAND IT IS PRIVATE PARTY.
09:44:49AM IF THEY ARE WILLING TO SCAN, COULD THEY NOT ARGUE THIS WHICH
09:44:54AM WHAT I ASKED FOR.
09:44:55AM IT IS THEIR PROPERTY AND I RESPECT THAT, BUT I EXPRESS THE
09:44:59AM IMPORTANCE OF A CORRECT SCAN.
09:45:00AM IF THE RESULT INDICATES NO DISTURBANCE OF GRAVES, I ASK
09:45:04AM WHERE DID 1200 BODY GOES.
09:45:06AM NO QUESTION THEY WERE LAID TO REST THERE.
09:45:08AM NO QUESTION THAT IS INDEED COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY.
09:45:10AM THE MAPS PROVE IT.
09:45:13AM HISTORICAL PAPERWORK PROVES IT AND EXTRAORDINARY RESEARCH
09:45:16AM FROM PAUL GUZZO AND "THE TAMPA TIMES."
09:45:19AM 1200 GRAVES DON'T SIMPLY DISAPPEAR?
09:45:23AM AND WHERE ARE THEY?
09:45:25AM TO ASK THE CUBAN CLUB WHERE THE BODIES ENTERED AND WHERE MY
09:45:30AM GREAT UNCLE WAS MOVED TO.
09:45:31AM NEXT IS THE TIME FRAME OF THE RESULTS.
09:45:33AM WAS THERE A TIME FRAME GIVEN FOR THE ITALIAN CLUB TO REPORT
09:45:36AM BACK THE RESULTS?
09:45:38AM I HAVE SEARCHED AND ZION CEMETERY WAS SCANNED IN 2019 AND
09:45:45AM RESULTS BACK AUGUST 2019.
09:45:47AM ANOTHER EXAMPLE, KING HIGH SCHOOL SCANNED BY GEO VIEW AND
09:45:53AM THEY ANNOUNCED THEIR SCANS NOVEMBER 19, A MONTH LATER.
09:45:56AM AS YOU CAN SEE THE RESULTS TAKE ABOUT A MONTH OR SO.
09:45:59AM AND TODAY IS APRIL 20 AND THEY SCANNED APRIL 7.
09:46:03AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:46:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:46:06AM >> DO I HAVE A FEW MORE SECONDS?
09:46:10AM I AM AWARE OF THE LAWS AND THIS BEING PRIVATE PROPERTY.
09:46:13AM AND I HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH THE PROCESS, BUT I ALSO
09:46:18AM HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW AS A FAMILY MEMBER OF SOMEONE BURIED
09:46:20AM ON THE LAND AND 1200 OTHER SOULS THAT HAVE NO ONE TO DEFEND
09:46:26AM THEM TO ONCE REST AGAIN IN PEACE AND HAVE THEIR DIGNITY
09:46:30AM RESTORED.
09:46:31AM I ASK WHERE ARE THEIR RIGHTS.
09:46:33AM I ASK THAT THE WORLD LEARNS FROM THIS AND NEVER REPEATS
09:46:35AM ITSELF.
09:46:36AM THANK YOU.
09:46:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:46:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
09:46:41AM COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY JUST WITHIN THE GRASSY AREA OR WAS IT
09:46:45AM ALSO WITH THE EXISTING LARGE MAUSOLEUM IS AT?
09:46:50AM >> THE EXISTS MAUSOLEUM AND ALL THE WAY BACK.
09:46:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAS COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY?
09:46:56AM >> YES, SIR.
09:46:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SPOKE TO A GENTLEMAN -- I BROUGHT THIS
09:46:59AM UP BEFORE IN 2019.
09:47:00AM HE HAS SINCE PASSED AWAY.
09:47:02AM HE WAS THE ARCHITECT THAT DESIGNED THE MAUSOLEUM.
09:47:05AM THE LAST TIME I WENT TO THE HOUSE.
09:47:07AM I WENT TO SEE HIM AND HE STARTED TALKING OF THE MAUSOLEUM.
09:47:10AM IF I REMEMBER HE SAID WHEN THEY LAID THE FOUNDATION, THAT
09:47:15AM THEY DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING.
09:47:17AM I DON'T KNOW.
09:47:17AM THE GENTLEMAN HAS PASSED AWAY.
09:47:19AM IN HIS RECORDS, EVERYTHING IS MISSING.
09:47:21AM SO I AM CURIOUS TO KNOW TOO.
09:47:23AM IF 1200 INDIVIDUALS WERE MOVED TAMPA, YOU KNOW, WHERE?
09:47:28AM ARE THEY AT MEMORIAL CEMETERY?
09:47:31AM I MEAN, THAT IS A LOT --
09:47:33AM >> RIGHT, RECORD.
09:47:34AM IF THERE IS NO DETECTION OF BODIES, WHERE DID THEY GO?
09:47:39AM THEY ARE PROVEN THEY WERE PUT THERE.
09:47:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, AS MUCH MY GRANDFATHER NEVER GOT A
09:47:46AM NOTICE THAT HIS BROTHER WAS MOVED AND HE LIVED UP IN THE
09:47:49AM 1980s, LATE '80s.
09:47:52AM HE DIED IN '90.
09:47:54AM THAT IS MY QUESTION IF THAT TAKES PLACE.
09:47:56AM AGAIN, I AM VERY GRATEFUL THAT A SCAN TOOK PLACE.
09:47:59AM I AM NOT COMING HERE TO BE NEGATIVE WITH THAT BECAUSE I
09:48:02AM APPRECIATE COUNCIL AND ALL OF YOUR HELP WITH THIS.
09:48:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID IT WAS YOUR UNCLE.
09:48:07AM >> MY GREAT UNCLE.
09:48:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE PASSED AWAY WHEN?
09:48:12AM >> 1917.
09:48:12AM BASED ON THE MAPS, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN LIKELY
09:48:19AM BURIED IN THE GRASSY AREA, WHICH WAS CONSIDERED THE CUBAN
09:48:22AM CEMETERY AT THAT TIME.
09:48:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE ITALIAN CLUB DOESN'T HAVE BURIAL
09:48:27AM RECORDS FOR THE CEMETERY?
09:48:29AM >> NOT THAT I -- THEY NEVER REACHED OUT TO ME.
09:48:32AM I HAD NOTHING AGAINST SPEAKING TO THEM BUT THEY DIDN'T
09:48:36AM BOTHER TO INTERVENE.
09:48:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:48:38AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
09:48:39AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:48:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I SAY SOMETHING U.S.
09:48:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:48:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANGELA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS.
09:48:45AM OBVIOUSLY MY OFFICE WILL CONNECT YOU WITH THE PROPER
09:48:50AM INDIVIDUALS FOR THIS, BECAUSE YOU WORKED A LOT ON THIS.
09:48:52AM SO THANK YOU.
09:48:53AM >> THANK YOU.
09:48:54AM GOOD MORNING.
09:48:59AM BOUNDER BRONER, THE GRANDSON AND THE FAMILY MEMBER THAT
09:49:06AM COUNCILMAN GUDES AND DOMINIQUE SPOKE.
09:49:11AM THANK YOU COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR CONTACTING ME AND NICOLE
09:49:14AM TRAVIS OF FORWARDING MY E-MAILS.
09:49:16AM I HAVE MY FAMILY MEMBERS BEHIND ME.
09:49:17AM MY SISTER, KATRINA.
09:49:19AM AUNT, CYNTHIA.
09:49:21AM AND COMING HERE BECAUSE AS COUNCIL GUDES MENTIONED EARLIER,
09:49:25AM WE HAVE AN ISSUE LOCATING THE RECORDS; HOWEVER, I AM TRYING
09:49:28AM TO APPROACH THIS FROM A CIVIL DIDN'T AND LET THE OWNER TO
09:49:34AM REACH OUT, CONTACT THE FUNERAL HOME AND ALLOW THEM ACCESS.
09:49:36AM BECAUSE IT IS A NORMAL PART OF THEIR BUSINESS.
09:49:40AM WHEN JOHN ROBINSON WAS ALIVE, THE LAST OWNER.
09:49:45AM IT HAS BEEN PASSED ON FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION.
09:49:47AM THE CURRENT OWNER KNOWS OUR FAMILY.
09:49:50AM WE HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE FUNERAL HOME ACTUALLY CONDUCTING
09:49:53AM IT.
09:49:53AM JUST PART OF THEIR POLICE, THEY REACH OUT TO THE OWNER
09:49:56AM SAYING WE WOULD LIKE TO CONDUCT A SERVICE ON THIS DAY AND
09:49:59AM JUST SCHEDULING THE SERVICE SO NOT IN CONFLICT WITH ANY
09:50:02AM OTHER BURIALS.
09:50:03AM I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED THAT CEMETERIES
09:50:08AM DON'T CLOSE.
09:50:09AM I WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH THAT ON GOOD FAITH AND ALLOW SOME
09:50:13AM GRACE FOR HUMAN ERROR TOWARD THE OWNER THAT I AM SURE THAT
09:50:16AM AS A PROPERTY FLIPPER, HE MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN HIS RIGHTS AS A
09:50:20AM CEMETERY OWNER.
09:50:21AM WITH THAT BEING SAID, NICOLE TRAVIS PUT ME IN TOUCH WITH THE
09:50:24AM FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF FUNERAL SERVICES CEMETERIES AND
09:50:28AM CONSUMER IS SERVICES.
09:50:30AM WHEN I REACHED OUT TO THEM, THEY SAID THAT A VERBAL WOULD
09:50:35AM DO.
09:50:35AM I AM REQUESTING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD IN GOOD FAITH WITH THAT
09:50:39AM SIMPLY REACHED OUT INFORMED HIM THIS IS THE DATE WE WOULD
09:50:42AM LIKE TO DO IT AND KNOWING NO OTHER FUNERALS OR BURIALS
09:50:46AM PLANNED ON THAT DAY, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.
09:50:48AM THAT IS MY LAST FINAL REQUEST.
09:50:50AM HOPEFULLY THIS IS RESOLVED WELL WITHIN TIME.
09:50:57AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:50:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:51:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:51:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:51:04AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MISS TRAVIS, IF -- IF THE NEW PROPERTY
09:51:07AM OWNER IS NOT RESPONSIVE, MAYBE WE CAN GET THE DEPARTMENT OF
09:51:14AM REGULATIONS TO GIVE HIM A CALL SO HE CAN BE ASSURED WHAT THE
09:51:17AM PROCESS TRULY IS NOW IN GOING FORWARD.
09:51:21AM AND THAT WAY, WE CAN GET THIS FAMILY SOME COMFORT FOR THEIR
09:51:25AM LOVED ONE.
09:51:26AM I KNOW THEY ARE IN A STRESSFUL POINT RIGHT NO NOW IN THEIR
09:51:29AM LIVES.
09:51:29AM IF WE CAN KIND OF COMFORT THEM ANY WAY WE CAN, I HOPE THIS
09:51:34AM ADMINISTRATION WILL REACH OUT TO THEM AGAIN LIKE YOU HAVE
09:51:36AM DONE.
09:51:36AM IF THEY DON'T RESPOND, GET THE DEPARTMENT OF REGULATIONS TO
09:51:39AM GO DOWN THERE AND THEY WILL COME UP VERY QUICKLY.
09:51:42AM I ASSURE YOU.
09:51:44AM I KNOW HOW THEY OPERATE.
09:51:45AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:51:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:51:56AM I AM SURGRET DOSS.
09:51:58AM I AM A LITIGANT AGAINST THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:52:01AM TWO OF YOUR FORMER OFFICERS AND SOME OTHER PUBLIC
09:52:05AM INDIVIDUALS.
09:52:05AM AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF CASES BUT ONE PARTICULARLY PENDING IN
09:52:11AM THE MIDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA WHERE STATE OF FLORIDA IS A
09:52:17AM DEVIL, DOSS VERSUS HOLDER ET AL.
09:52:22AM AND THE CITY NEEDS MONEY FROM PEOPLE ASKING FOR PUBLIC
09:52:27AM RECORDS REQUEST.
09:52:28AM ONE OF YOUR POLICE OFFICERS HAPPENED TO BE THE MAYOR'S HEAD
09:52:31AM OF SECURITY ALLEGEDLY RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM A LOCAL
09:52:34AM JUDGE REQUESTING TO INVESTIGATE ME.
09:52:36AM THAT INVESTIGATION WASN'T AN HONEST ATTEMPT TO FIND ANY
09:52:42AM FACTS SUFFICIENT TO CHARGE ME WITH FELONY PERJURY.
09:52:44AM IT WAS OFFICIALLY A LEGAL LYNCHING.
09:52:47AM BY THE WAY, IF YOU DON'T KNOW IN A STATE OF FLORIDA, A
09:52:51AM PERJURY CAN GET YOU FIRED AND IN PRISON.
09:52:54AM I WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
09:52:55AM I SELF-REPRESENTED AND THE CASE ENDED WHEN A JUDGE SENT IN
09:52:58AM FROM ANOTHER CIRCUIT FROM THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT.
09:53:00AM AND HE DISMISSED THE CASE AFTER ABOUT AN HOUR OF TIME, BUT
09:53:05AM TOOK ME DISQUALIFYING SEVERAL JUDGES AND SEVEN MONTHS OF
09:53:10AM BEING PROSECUTED AND BOUNCES FROM COURT ROOM TO COURT ROOM
09:53:13AM AND FROM JUDGE TO JUDGE AND THROUGHOUT THIS CRIMINAL
09:53:15AM PROCEEDING, I REQUESTED DOCUMENTS FROM THE CITY THAT I WAS
09:53:18AM ENTITLED TO AS PART OF RECORD.
09:53:22AM I PUT IN AT THAT REQUEST FOR THAT SAME INFORMATION, AND I
09:53:25AM GET THIS INVOICE FOR $10,614.50.
09:53:30AM AND YOU ALL, THE CITY, IS CLAIMING THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO
09:53:37AM PUT 461 AND A HALF HOURS TOWARD FINDING WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE
09:53:40AM HAD WHEN YOU WERE PROSECUTING ME.
09:53:42AM SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN HERE BELIEVES THAT ANY ONE PERSON
09:53:48AM OR ANY COMBINATION OF PEOPLE, ESSENTIALLY 12 HOURS A WEEK
09:53:52AM TIMES -- OF WORKING TIME TO GET ME INFORMATION.
09:53:54AM IN FACT, YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE IT TO ME BECAUSE I AM
09:53:58AM ENTITLED TO UNDER FLORIDA LAW, CHAPTER 119 IN THE FLORIDA
09:54:03AM STATUES OF SUNSHINE.
09:54:04AM OUR GOVERNOR HAS ALREADY PUT ON THE RECORD THAT FLORIDA IS A
09:54:07AM LAW AND ORDER STATE.
09:54:08AM AND I APPRECIATE HIM DOING THAT.
09:54:10AM AND NO ONE GETS TO DISREGARD THE LAWS THAT OUR LEGISLATURE
09:54:13AM PUT IN PLACE.
09:54:14AM I'M HERE HOPING THAT I CAN CONVINCE YOU ALL TO GET WHOEVER
09:54:18AM IS RESPONSIBLE TO GET ME THE INFORMATION I REQUESTED.
09:54:22AM AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO SOME SORT OF GO FUND ME TO HAVE
09:54:25AM THE CITY DO WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
09:54:27AM SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
09:54:30AM AND HOPEFULLY YOU TAKE ME SERIOUSLY WHAT I AM ASKING FOR.
09:54:33AM YOU ALL TAKE CARE.
09:54:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
09:54:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN .
09:54:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:54:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THIS
09:55:02AM GENTLEMAN IS TALKING ABOUT, SIR?
09:55:04AM $10,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR PUBLIC RECORDS.
09:55:07AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE EXACT ITEM, BUT
09:55:14AM UNDER STATE LAW, AND UNDER OUR PUBLIC RECORDS -- WE HAVE A
09:55:18AM PUBLIC RECORDS OFFICE.
09:55:20AM AND WE DO -- AND WE DO CHARGE FOR STAFF TIME IF IT IS FOR AN
09:55:26AM EXTRAORDINARY THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF TIME OR SPECIAL
09:55:29AM -- SPECIAL TYPE OF SERVICES IN TRYING TO RETRIEVE ALL THE
09:55:35AM RECORDS.
09:55:35AM SO THAT IS STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE AND WE ARE ALLOWED
09:55:39AM TO DO THAT UNDER STATE LAW.
09:55:40AM THERE ARE CASES WHERE THAT HAS BEEN CHALLENGED BEFORE FOR
09:55:44AM OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, AND THAT -- THE COURTS HAVE UPHELD OUR
09:55:49AM ABILITY TO CHARGE FOR THOSE SORTS OF SERVICES.
09:55:51AM >> IF I MAY --
09:55:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I CAN'T LET YOU SPEAK RIGHT NOW.
09:55:56AM MR. MASSEY, I UNDERSTAND ALL THOSE RULES.
09:55:58AM MY CONCERN IS THE -- IF THERE IS A PUBLIC RECORD AND POLICE
09:56:04AM ARRESTED PEOPLE OR DID ANYTHING TO IN GENTLEMAN IN 2017, IN
09:56:08AM MY MIND, THEY SHOULD BE ALREADY RECORDS HELD ALREADY --
09:56:13AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ALL I CAN DO -- I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS
09:56:16AM IN PARTICULAR.
09:56:16AM ALL I CAN DO IS -- WE WILL LOOK INTO IT AND ASK THE PUBLIC
09:56:20AM RECORDS OFFICE.
09:56:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CAN YOU GET SOME INFORMATION?
09:56:23AM I SEE SOMETHING WRONG HERE -- A LOT WRONG HERE.
09:56:25AM I UNDERSTAND HOW SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE BECOME VICTIMS WHEN
09:56:28AM YOU HAVE A CERTAIN KIND OF SKIN COLOR.
09:56:30AM I HATE TO SAY THAT --
09:56:32AM >> SAY IT.
09:56:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE BOTTOM LINE I WANT INFORMATION.
09:56:35AM I PROBABLY WILL BE GONE, BUT I KNOW SEVERAL COLLEAGUES WILL
09:56:38AM BE HERE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
09:56:40AM TELL ME -- I WAS A POLICE OFFICER A LONG TIME.
09:56:43AM THEY KEEP RECORDS.
09:56:43AM >> I KNOW THEY DO.
09:56:44AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GIVE YOUR NAME AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADDRESS
09:56:48AM THAT.
09:56:48AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS.
09:57:01AM LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, PARADISE
09:57:07AM MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
09:57:08AM THE REASON I KEEP COMING DOWN HERE IS BECAUSE I AM
09:57:13AM CONCERNED.
09:57:15AM YOU KNOW, I LIVE OUT THERE IN EAST TAMPA.
09:57:25AM WHY DO WE HAVE ALL THE RETENTION PONDS IN EAST TAMPA WHEN
09:57:30AM YOU OUGHT TO FILL THEM ALL UP AND BE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO
09:57:34AM CAN'T AFFORD THESE EXPENSIVE HOMES Y'ALL HAVE.
09:57:38AM AND PUT A RETENTION POND THERE THAN TO BUILD A HOME FOR THE
09:57:46AM HOMELESS PEOPLE OR WHATEVER.
09:57:48AM I BASICALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
09:57:50AM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE GIVES ME -- TELLS ME TO
09:57:54AM TELL YOU ALL.
09:57:55AM I DON'T KNOW 14.
09:57:58AM LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED.
09:58:00AM LET ME GET MY GLASSES.
09:58:02AM I KNOW Y'ALL ARE GOING TO RUN ME OUT OF HERE IN A FEW
09:58:05AM MINUTES.
09:58:05AM BUT I -- A LOT OF STUFF I NEED NOW.
09:58:09AM LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED.
09:58:13AM JESUS CHRIST -- JESUS CHRIST -- BELIEVE IN GOD.
09:58:19AM BELIEVE ALSO IN ME.
09:58:22AM THIS IS JESUS TALKING.
09:58:24AM AND MY FATHER HAVE MANY MANSIONS.
09:58:28AM IF IT WERE NOT SO, I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU SO.
09:58:30AM I GO TO A FAIR PLACE WITH YOU.
09:58:34AM IF I GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU, I WILL COME AGAIN AND
09:58:38AM RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF.
09:58:40AM THAT IS WHERE I AM.
09:58:42AM THERE YOU SHALL BE ALSO.
09:58:45AM AND WHETHER I GO, YOU KNOW THE WAY.
09:58:47AM SEE IT INTO HIM.
09:58:50AM LORD, WE KNOW THOU WHETHER YOU GO'TH.
09:58:56AM HOW CAN WE KNOW THE WAY.
09:58:58AM JESUS SAID UNTO HIM, THIS JESUS TALKING, I'M THE WAY, THE
09:59:04AM TRUTH AND THE LIGHT.
09:59:05AM NO MAN COMING INTO THE FATHER ARE, BUT BY ME.
09:59:08AM IF YOU HAVE KNOWN ME, YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN MY FATHER ALSO.
09:59:13AM YOU KNOW WHY I COME OVER HERE MANY YEARS -- 20, 25 YEARS AGO
09:59:23AM AND MAYBE LONGER THAN THAT BARRED ME FROM READING THE BIBLE
09:59:30AM IN CITY COUNCIL.
09:59:30AM BARRED ME FROM PRAYING IN CITY COUNCIL.
09:59:33AM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
09:59:35AM I TALK TO GOD ABOUT IT.
09:59:42AM YOU KNOW WHAT GOD SAID, YOU ARE ASKING THE WRONG PEOPLE.
09:59:44AM BARELY TALK TO GOD AND TALK TO Y'ALL.
09:59:48AM DON'T WANT TO GET NOTHING DONE FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR.
09:59:51AM BUT I WILL HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE WITH MY -- WITH MY STAND
09:59:55AM AND KEEP ME UP.
09:59:57AM BUT NOBODY SEEM TO CARE.
10:00:00AM NOW I -- NOW MY CHURCH OVER THERE ON 1112 EAST SCOTT
10:00:06AM STREET.
10:00:06AM THEY ARE TRYING TO CLOSE IT DOWN.
10:00:08AM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, ONCE THEY CLOSE THAT DOWN, I HAVE TO GO
10:00:14AM BACK TO THE STREETS AND PREACH AGAIN.
10:00:16AM BUT I WANT TO TELL Y'ALL SOMETHING, I WISH GOD WILL BLESS
10:00:21AM ALL OF Y'ALL.
10:00:22AM AND KEEP OUR HEADS ABOVE THE WATER.
10:00:24AM THANK GOD FOR HIM I PRAY.
10:00:28AM LET ME GET OUT OF HERE.
10:00:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:00:34AM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
10:00:37AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: REAL QUICKLY.
10:00:38AM TO MR. GUDES' QUESTION.
10:00:41AM URSULA RICHARDSON, THIS MATTER IS IN ACTIVE LITIGATION.
10:00:46AM SHE WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THIS IS STANDARD OPERATING
10:00:50AM PROCEDURE AND SOME OF THIS MATERIAL IS -- IS NOT STUFF THAT
10:00:54AM --
10:00:55AM [INAUDIBLE]
10:00:56AM >>URSULA RICHARDSON: JUST SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE, THIS IS A
10:00:58AM FEDERAL LAWSUIT IN FRONT OF CHARLENE HONEY WELL, JUDGE.
10:01:03AM AND WE ARE IN THE DISCOVERY PROCESS.
10:01:06AM AS PART OF THE DISCOVERY PROCESS, YOU CAN'T JUST GET FREE
10:01:09AM RECORDS.
10:01:10AM IF IT WILL TAKE ANY EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THE
10:01:13AM RECORDS THAT MR. DAWSON -- I HAVEN'T ASKED FOR THE NEW
10:01:17AM REQUEST.
10:01:17AM HE SENT A PUBLIC RECORDS -- WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN
10:01:20AM OPERATING IN THE CONFINES OF THE ACTUAL LAWSUIT, THE
10:01:23AM DISCOVERY RULES.
10:01:24AM HE I BELIEVE SENT AN ACTUAL DISCOVERY REQUEST.
10:01:27AM I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT EVEN IF
10:01:31AM THE NEW REQUEST SENT THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS, BASICALLY
10:01:35AM THERE ARE A LOT OF RECORDS THAT HE IS ASKING FOR.
10:01:36AM HE IS REQUIRED TO BEAR THE COST OF ANY EXTRAORDINARY
10:01:42AM REQUEST.
10:01:42AM IF HE IS JUST ASKING FOR A POLICE REPORT, FIVE OR TEN PAGES,
10:01:46AM THAT IS SOMETHING WE TURN OVER WITHOUT ANY ISSUE.
10:01:48AM IF YOU ARE ASKING FOR THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF RECORDS, YOU ARE
10:01:51AM NOT ENTITLED TO THOSE FOR FREE.
10:01:54AM IF YOU ARE IN DISCOVERY YOU HAVE TO BEAR SOME COST OF
10:01:57AM DISCOVERY WHEN BRINGING A LAWSUIT.
10:01:58AM THAT IS THE SAME FOR THE CITY.
10:01:59AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THOSE.
10:02:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR RUNNING DOWN TO GIVE US MORE
10:02:05AM EXPLANATION ON IT.
10:02:07AM BUT THINK $10,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR RECORDS.
10:02:10AM AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THE GENTLEMAN WHAT HE NEEDS AND
10:02:14AM THE CITY CAN GET WHAT THEY NEED AND MOVE ON.
10:02:16AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE HE DID GET HEARD, BECAUSE TO ME, IT
10:02:21AM RAISES AN EYEBROWS OF MY COLLEAGUES.
10:02:23AM A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOME PUBLIC RECORDS.
10:02:27AM >>URSULA RICHARDSON: LET ME JUST -- FOR THE RECORD SINCE WE
10:02:30AM ARE ON FEDERAL LITIGATION AND JUDGE HONEYWELL IS IN CHARGE
10:02:34AM OF A CASE.
10:02:34AM WHEN WE ARE IN LAWSUIT YOU BRING IT FOR HER TO RESOLVE, NOT
10:02:39AM CITY COUNCIL.
10:02:39AM THE PROPER CHANNEL TO HAVE THE LAWSUIT RELATED ISSUES
10:02:44AM RESOLVED IS THE FEDERAL JUDGE.
10:02:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A LOT OF TIME CITIZENS WANT SOMEONE TO HEAR
10:02:49AM THEM AND GO I HAVE THEM HELP AND SEND THEM IN THE RIGHT
10:02:51AM DIRECTION.
10:02:51AM >>URSULA ROBERTSON: I GET THAT MR. DAWSON IS A PRO SE
10:02:55AM LITIGATOR SO HE IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE SYSTEM.
10:02:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FOR THE RECORD, STATE YOUR NAME.
10:03:01AM >>URSULA RICHARDSON: SORRY, URSULA RICHARDSON, CHIEF OF
10:03:06AM LITIGATION FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:03:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WISH TO SPEAK DURING
10:03:12AM PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:03:12AM MADAM CLERK, TWO PEOPLE ON LINE.
10:03:17AM >>CLERK: MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:03:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
10:03:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:03:23AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH, AND I AM WITH THE WEST TAMPA
10:03:29AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
10:03:31AM TODAY I WANT TO TALK OF A UPCOMING MEETING ON.
10:03:35AM MAY 8, ENTITLED HELP PUBLIC SAFETY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:03:40AM THE STATE OF HEALTH OF AFRICAN AMERICANS IN WEST TAMPA.
10:03:43AM A HOLISTIC AND NATURALISTIC APPROACH TO HELP THE
10:03:48AM AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN WEST TAMPA.
10:03:51AM AS YOU KNOW, AFRICAN-AMERICANS SUFFER MORE WITH DIABETES,
10:03:58AM BLOOD PRESSURE, HEART DISEASE, OBESITY, ETC.
10:04:01AM PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY INITIATIVE COMBINES THESE INITIATIVES
10:04:09AM TO INCREASE THE HEALTH IN WEST TAMPA WHEN WE TALK OF HEALTH
10:04:13AM AND PUBLIC SAFETY, WE DEAL WITH VIOLENCE.
10:04:18AM LITTLE DO PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU COULD DIE --
10:04:25AM [INAUDIBLE]
10:04:26AM -- THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
10:04:29AM THE OTHER THING IS WHAT WE CALL INTERGENERATIONAL HEALTH
10:04:36AM EFFECTS THE CYCLE.
10:04:37AM IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY AFRICAN-AMERICANS SUFFER SO
10:04:41AM MUCH FROM THESE HEALTH DISEASES, THIS WILL BE A GOOD PLACE
10:04:44AM TO LOOK.
10:04:45AM THE OTHER THING IS, HEALTH AND SOCIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
10:04:51AM WHAT EFFECTS DOES VIOLENCE HAVE ON HEALTH IN WEST TAMPA AND
10:04:56AM WHAT EFFECTS GENERATIONAL HEALTH.
10:05:01AM AND WE WILL PARTNERSHIP WITH BRICE WILLIAMS AND HEALTH
10:05:06AM CLINICS TO DESIGN THE STRATEGY THAT REDUCES THE -- THE
10:05:12AM NUMBERS AS IT RELATES TO HEALTH AS PART MUCH OUR HEALTH,
10:05:16AM PUBLIC SAFETY AND SOCIAL ECONOMIC INITIATIVE.
10:05:19AM WE WANT TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IN WEST TAMPA.
10:05:26AM THAT MEANS YOU CAN GO TO WORK.
10:05:28AM IT ALSO MEANS YOU CAN LIVE IN A BETTER ENVIRONMENT.
10:05:32AM I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT MORE THAN WHAT MR. WALTER
10:05:36AM SMITH TALKED ABOUT AND THE INVOLVEMENT, HOW IT AFFECTS TAMPA
10:05:44AM AS PART OF THE TEAM TO TALK ABOUT OUR HEALTH INITIATIVE.
10:05:47AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT WHAT WE ARE TALKING
10:05:53AM ABOUT.
10:05:53AM HEALTH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE
10:05:56AM CONNECTED.
10:05:57AM THE MEETING OFTEN MAY 8.
10:05:58AM IT WILL CHANGE THE NARRATIVE AS WE LOOK AT PUBLIC HEALTH IN
10:06:02AM WEST TAMPA THANK YOU.
10:06:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:06:10AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:06:11AM ONE THING WE NEED TO CLEAR UP.
10:06:14AM I APOLOGIZE.
10:06:16AM HEAD OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:06:17AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 51 CONTINUED UNTIL MAY 4.
10:06:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 51 TO BE CONTINUED TO MAY 4.
10:06:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:06:29AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:06:31AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:06:32AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:06:33AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:06:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN THE 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:06:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION OPEN THE 9:30 BY COUNCILMAN
10:06:42AM MANISCALCO.
10:06:42AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:06:44AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:06:45AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:06:46AM MOTION PASSES.
10:06:48AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NUMBER PH 23-80 973.
10:06:58AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, COUNCIL.
10:07:01AM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
10:07:05AM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
10:07:06AM THIS IS A REQUEST BY THE TAMPA PREPARATORY SCHOOL TO ISSUE
10:07:10AM APPROXIMATELY $13 MILLION IN CONDUIT DEBT FOR CONSTRUCTION
10:07:14AM OF A NEW SCIENCE BUILDING AND OTHER RENOVATIONS.
10:07:17AM AS COUNCIL KNOWS, IT IS CALLED A CONDUIT DEBT ISSUANCE
10:07:21AM BECAUSE THE CITY IS SIMPLY A PASS THROUGH OR CONDUIT FOR THE
10:07:25AM ACTION.
10:07:25AM AS A RESULT, NO FINANCIAL NOR LEGAL LIABILITY ON THE PART OF
10:07:30AM THE CITY.
10:07:31AM THE CITY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEBT.
10:07:33AM TAMPA PREP IS.
10:07:36AM COUNCIL WILL RECALL WE HAVE DONE SIMILAR PROJECTS IN A
10:07:39AM PUBLIC PURPOSE PERSPECTIVE FOR OTHER ENTITIES.
10:07:45AM WE PROVIDED A MEMO FOR YOU WITH ADDITIONAL DETAIL.
10:07:49AM SOME OF THE RECENT EXAMPLES WAS THE MOFFITT CANCER CENTER,
10:07:53AM EXCUSE ME, AND THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AGAIN, WE HAVE
10:07:56AM PROVIDED A MEMO TO COUNCIL WITH ADDITIONAL DETAIL.
10:07:59AM I'M HERE ALONG WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND MR. PLUMMER,
10:08:03AM THE HEAD OF TAMPA PREP, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
10:08:08AM HAVE.
10:08:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:08:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WHEN WE ACT AS A CONDUIT, WE CHARGE A
10:08:14AM MINIMUM INTEREST RATE, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:08:16AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE CHARGE A FEE FROM THE WORK THAT THE CITY
10:08:19AM OF TAMPA IS DOING.
10:08:19AM AND THEN THE EXTERNAL FINANCIAL TEAM ALSO CHARGES A FEE.
10:08:23AM WE DON'T PARTICULARLY CHARGE THE INTEREST.
10:08:26AM THE INTEREST IS ON THE DEBT ISSUANCE.
10:08:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH DOES THE CITY EARN FROM THIS
10:08:34AM CONDUIT?
10:08:36AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IN THIS INSTANCE, WE EARN $58,000 FOR OUR
10:08:40AM WORK ON THE ITEM.
10:08:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:08:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW WE GET CALLS AND E-MAILS OF THIS
10:08:47AM SITUATION.
10:08:47AM I WILL SAY IN THE FUTURE MAYBE WITH THE MEMOS THAT COME OUT
10:08:52AM WITH REGARD TO THESE, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL SO THE PUBLIC
10:08:55AM WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHY WE ARE DOING IT.
10:08:59AM YOU KNOW, THEY WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY'S BENEFIT IS
10:09:02AM AND WHAT BENEFIT WE GET AND THE BENEFIT PURPOSE OF THE
10:09:07AM ENTITY ASKING TO DO THIS FAVOR FOR THEM.
10:09:09AM I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE CUT TOWN A LOT OF THE CHATTER OF WHY
10:09:13AM -- CITY MONEY.
10:09:14AM HOW TO PAY THIS BACK.
10:09:16AM THE BOND.
10:09:18AM IN THE FUTURE, A LITTLE MORE DETAIL UP FRONT SO THE PUBLIC
10:09:22AM DON'T HAVE TO WORRY.
10:09:23AM I KNOW WHAT IT IS.
10:09:24AM WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT.
10:09:25AM BUT OTHERS DON'T KNOW.
10:09:27AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMAN, AN EXCELLENT
10:09:31AM IDEA.
10:09:31AM WE WILL RIGHT THAT IT HAS NO CITY LIABILITY WHETHER IT IS
10:09:36AM FINANCIAL OR LEGAL.
10:09:36AM THANK YOU.
10:09:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:09:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
10:09:41AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:09:42AM YOU STATE IT DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING TO US.
10:09:45AM WE WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE $13 MILLION AND I AM NOT
10:09:48AM TALKING ABOUT THIS ENTITY, THE SCHOOL, OF COURSE, ANY ENTITY
10:09:52AM WE DO THIS FOR.
10:09:53AM HAS TO BE THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEBT.
10:09:56AM NOT US.
10:09:56AM IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG, WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING
10:09:59AM HELD LIABLE.
10:10:00AM AM I CORRECT?
10:10:03AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
10:10:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:10:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID IT TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT WAYS BUT
10:10:11AM WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING
10:10:13AM AND WE ARE NOT LIABLE.
10:10:14AM CAN I ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION?
10:10:16AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
10:10:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT WAS ON THE SPACE
10:10:19AM BEFORE TAMPA PREP USED TO BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THEY
10:10:23AM MOVED ACROSS THE STREET.
10:10:24AM IS THIS -- ARE THEY LEASING PARK LAND FROM US?
10:10:27AM IS THIS CITY LAND THEY ARE ON?
10:10:29AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MY UNDERSTANDING -- AND, OF COURSE, MR.
10:10:31AM PLUMMER CAN ADD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION -- IT IS CONTAINED
10:10:36AM WITHIN THEIR FORMER FOOTPRINT.
10:10:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO, I MEAN THE LAND THEY ARE ON, CITY LAND
10:10:41AM LIKE U.T. THAT THEY LEASE FOR US.
10:10:44AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DO NOT KNOW.
10:10:46AM MR. MASSEY MAY.
10:10:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS JUST THE OTHER DAY.
10:10:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WAS ASKING ME WHAT WAS HERE BEFORE THIS
10:10:56AM WAS HERE.
10:10:56AM IF I REMEMBER, THAT WAS PHILLIP'S FIELD ON ONE SIDE THERE.
10:11:00AM SO THE WEST SIDE AND PLYMOUTH TO THE EAST SIDE.
10:11:05AM AND THERE WERE IN FACT -- IT WAS THE FIRST NFL FIELD GAME OR
10:11:11AM SOMETHING THAT WAS PLAYED THERE BACK IN THE '50s OR EARLY
10:11:15AM '60s.
10:11:15AM I FORGET.
10:11:17AM MAYBE I AM WRONG BUT WHAT I REMEMBER GROWING UP.
10:11:20AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU MAY BE RIGHT, MR. MIRANDA.
10:11:23AM BEFORE TAMPA PREP BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IT WAS A PRIVATE
10:11:27AM PROPERTY AND A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT THAT THEY
10:11:32AM GOTTEN AND ABANDONED IT AND SOLD IT TO TAMPA.
10:11:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING OF PHYSICAL
10:11:38AM THINGS.
10:11:38AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IT IS NOT CITY.
10:11:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: NOT CITY PROPERTY.
10:11:42AM I REMEMBER -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:11:47AM ADJACENT TO U.T.
10:11:50AM NEVER EXPECT IT TO GROW OUT THAT WAY AND U.T. FILLED UP THAT
10:11:55AM ENTIRE LAND.
10:11:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: U.T. IS ALL THE WAY TO SEFFNER HILLS.
10:12:05AM >> ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
10:12:07AM THIS IS A HEARING DETAILS I WANT TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
10:12:10AM THANK YOU.
10:12:11AM THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED ISSUANCE OF THE
10:12:14AM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, REVENUE BOND TAMPA PREPARATORY
10:12:18AM SCHOOL PROJECT SERIES 2023 IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $13
10:12:25AM MILLION.
10:12:25AM CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE HOLDING OF THE HEARING ON THE
10:12:29AM REGULAR MEETING APRIL 6, 2023.
10:12:31AM NOTICE OF THIS HEARING ARE WAS PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S WEB
10:12:34AM SITE COMMENCING ON APRIL 10, 2023.
10:12:37AM PROCEEDS OF THE BOND WILL BE LOANED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA --
10:12:40AM LOANED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA TO TAMPA PREPARATORY SCHOOL, A
10:12:44AM FLORIDA NONPROFIT CORPORATION HERE AND AFTER REFERRED TO AS
10:12:47AM THE BORROWER.
10:12:50AM THE BORROWER OWN AS PRIVATE SCHOOL TAMPA PREPARATORY SCHOOL
10:12:55AM SERVING STUDENTS GRADES 6-12.
10:12:58AM PROCEEDS WILL BE USED BY THE BORROWER TO FINANCE THE COST OF
10:13:02AM A NEW 30,000-SQUARE-FOOT SCIENCE ADMINISTRATION BUILDINGS
10:13:07AM AND RENOVATION OF APPROXIMATELY 15,000 SQUARE FEET SPACE IN
10:13:13AM THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR OF THE EXIST CLASSROOM BUILDINGS.
10:13:16AM TWO, PAY CERTAIN COSTS OF ISSUANCE OF THE BOND.
10:13:20AM LOCATED AT THE BORROWER EXISTING CAMPUS, 727 WEST CASS
10:13:26AM STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:13:27AM TO BE OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE BORROWER.
10:13:30AM FUNDS PAID BY THE BORROWER OF A FINANCE AGREEMENT AND OTHER
10:13:34AM FINANCING DOCUMENTS TO BE EXECUTED AMONG THE CITY, THE
10:13:37AM BORROWER AND TRUIST BANK.
10:13:39AM THE BOND IS TO BE PRIVATELY PLACED WITH TRUIST BANK TO
10:13:44AM EVIDENCE THE LOAN IN THE BENEFIT OF THE BORROWER.
10:13:47AM NEITHER THE BOND NOR THE INTEREST SHALL BE AN INDEBTEDNESS
10:13:51AM OF A PLEDGE OF THE TAXING POWER OR ANY OTHER REVENUES OF THE
10:13:55AM CITY, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THE STATE OF FLORIDA, OR ANY
10:13:58AM OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OR AGENCY THEREOF.
10:14:02AM THE BOND WILL BE A SPECIAL AND LIMITED OBLIGATION OF THE
10:14:05AM CITY PAID SOLELY BY THE LOAN PAYMENTS BY THE BORROWER, 147F
10:14:14AM OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986.
10:14:17AM ANYONE WISHING TO BE HEARD ON THE ISSUANCE OF THE BOND OR
10:14:23AM NATURE OF THE PROJECT DESCRIBED IN THE PUBLIC NOTICE WILL
10:14:26AM NOW BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
10:14:27AM THAT IS ALL.
10:14:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
10:14:31AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WILLING TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3,
10:14:35AM FILE NUMBER PH 23-80973.
10:14:39AM MADAM CLERK, I DO NOT SEE ANYONE ONLINE?
10:14:44AM >>CLERK: NONE.
10:14:46AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
10:14:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:14:53AM MY NAME IS KEVIN PLUMMER, HEAD OF SCHOOL TAMPA PREPARATORY
10:14:58AM SCHOOL WITH MY COLLEAGUE MR. JAMIE MARQUEZ, OUR INTERIM
10:15:03AM DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND OPERATIONS.
10:15:05AM THERE IS -- THERE ARE MANY OPINIONS ABOUT OUR SCHOOL AND
10:15:08AM SADLY NOT MANY PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN THERE AS MANY AS I
10:15:11AM WOULD LIKE.
10:15:11AM BUT I WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF FACTS THIS MORNING
10:15:14AM ABOUT OUR SCHOOL.
10:15:15AM TAMPA PREP WAS FOUNDED IN 1974, 3801 ALUMNI AND SERVES 705
10:15:22AM STUDENTS ABOUT 130 EMPLOYEES.
10:15:24AM STUD TENT BODY REPRESENTS 30 DIFFERENT ZIP CODES OF THE
10:15:27AM TAMPA BAY REGION WITH MORE THAN 510 STUDENTS COMING FROM
10:15:31AM TAMPA WE ALSO SERVE STUDENTS FROM BRANDON, LUTZ, RIVERVIEW,
10:15:36AM APOLLO BEACH, LITHIA, ST. PETERSBURG, TEMPLE TERRACE,
10:15:41AM VALRICO, WESLEY CHAPEL, THONOTOSASSA, LAND O LAKES, RUSKIN,
10:15:46AM CLEARWATER, TARPON SPRINGS, PALM HARBOR, AND SAFETY HARBOR.
10:15:50AM WE ARE KNOWN FOR STUDENTS' KINDNESS, OUR COMMITMENT TO
10:15:55AM DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND ATHLETIC.
10:16:01AM WE WON 36 CHAMPIONSHIPS AND WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.
10:16:07AM $2.4 MILLION IN NEED-BASED FINANCIAL AID WITH AN AVERAGE
10:16:11AM AWARD OF $10,000.
10:16:13AM 40% OUR STUDENTS ARE STUDENTS OF COLOR AND TAMPA PREP,
10:16:16AM HAVING NO RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION IS HOME TO CHRISTIANS,
10:16:19AM HINDUS, MUSLIMS, JEWS AND SIKHS.
10:16:22AM TAMPA PREP HAS SERVED AND WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE THE GREATER
10:16:26AM NEEDS OF TAMPA AND THE TAMPA BAY REGION.
10:16:29AM WE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY ON IMPORTANT MATTERS FOR OUR CITY
10:16:33AM INCLUDING THE SUPPORT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS FOR THE
10:16:36AM REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION WHERE WE CLOSED OUR SCHOOL
10:16:38AM FOR A WEEK TO SUPPORT THE NATIONAL GUARD, THE TAMPA
10:16:42AM IMPLEMENT AND MORE THAN 3,000 OFFICERS FROM A VARIETY OF
10:16:44AM AGENCIES ACROSS FLORIDA.
10:16:45AM WE HAVE BEEN AN INSTRUMENTAL PARTNER IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF
10:16:49AM THE RESPONSIBILITY MATTERS CAMPAIGN FOR GASPARILLA AND
10:16:53AM SUPPORTED THE NATIONAL EVENTS THAT INCLUDED TWO SUPER BOWLS,
10:16:56AM COLLEGE NATIONAL FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP NCAA WOMEN'S FINAL
10:17:01AM FOUR NCAA BASEBALL CHAMPIONSHIP AS NEEDS FOR THE STRAZ
10:17:07AM PERFORMING, PIG GIG, THE METROPOLITAN MINISTRIES, MEALS ON
10:17:12AM WHEELS, THE RECENT FORUM ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND TWO WEEKS
10:17:15AM HOST ANOTHER PUBLIC FORUM ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
10:17:18AM COMMITTED TO THE 813 AND THE 7200 AS YOU EVER WOULD FIND.
10:17:23AM PROJECT IS A $27 MILLION STATEMENT TO THE FUTURE OF
10:17:27AM EDUCATION.
10:17:27AM A BUILDING WITH ASPIRATION TO MODEL THE DIRECTION OF SCIENCE
10:17:31AM INSTRUCTION FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS.
10:17:33AM WHERE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE USF COLLEGE OF MEDICINE, YOU,
10:17:39AM THE CENTER OF MEDICAL SIMULATION, TAMPA GENERAL APT, ADVENT,
10:17:44AM BAY CARE HEALTH SYSTEMS AND MOFFITT AND THERE THRIVE.
10:17:47AM THIS PROJECT IS A JOB CREATOR MORE THAN 400 JOBS FOR TAMPA
10:17:51AM OVER THE NEXT 16 MONTHS.
10:17:53AM THE BELL WENT OFF.
10:17:55AM SO I WILL JUST CLOSE.
10:17:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 15 SECONDS.
10:17:58AM >> 15 SECONDS.
10:18:00AM I WILL CLOSE WITH THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND WE
10:18:04AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
10:18:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:18:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT UP PHILLIPS
10:18:12AM BUT THE GUY YOU KNEW JOHN METUZAK THAT PLAYED THERE.
10:18:16AM LATER WAS IN THE MOVIE "THE GOONIES."
10:18:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE A PICTURE IN MY WALLET.
10:18:22AM IT WAS -- I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE FIRST PRESEASON PLAYOFF
10:18:27AM PROFESSIONAL GAME -- NOT PLAYOFF GAME, BUT PRESEASON GAME
10:18:31AM THAT WAS DONE IN TAMPA AND WAS BROUGHT OVER BY, I THINK, THE
10:18:35AM BROTHERS THAT HAD THE PRINT SHOP AND THE -- THE LAPEL PINS
10:18:43AM AND STUFF LIKE THAT WONDERFUL GUYS.
10:18:49AM LEVY BROTHERS.
10:18:51AM THE BIG GUY.
10:18:52AM I FORGOT HIS NAME.
10:18:54AM USED TO CALL HIM BIG GUY BECAUSE HE WAS BIG.
10:18:56AM THEY STARTED THAT MOVEMENT TO BRING THE FIRST PRESEASON GAME
10:18:59AM OF FOOTBALL THERE AND ALSO THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP THAT I SAW
10:19:04AM LARRY SMITH, WHICH IS A RUNNING BACK AT ROBINSON AND LARRY
10:19:09AM SMITH, I THINK WAS HIS NAME, A QUARTERBACK AND TEAM FROM
10:19:13AM MIAMI STARTING QUARTERBACK LARRY RENTS.
10:19:15AM WENT ON TO BE THE QUARTERBACK AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
10:19:18AM AND TAMPA WAS BEATING HIM THE LAST 150 TO 15 SECONDS WHEN
10:19:24AM LARRY KICKED A 35-FOOT FIELD GOAL AND I LOST ALL MY HAIR IN
10:19:30AM THE EXCITEMENT.
10:19:31AM [LAUGHTER]
10:19:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS LOCKETT, I SEE YOU STAND THERE.
10:19:35AM YOU WANTED TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:19:41AM >> GOOD MORNING, ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:19:43AM IN REGARDS TO THIS, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE PROCESS?
10:19:49AM AND IN REGARDS TO OTHER ENTITIES HAVING RELATIONSHIP WITH
10:19:53AM THE CITY AS A CONDUIT.
10:19:55AM WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF THAT?
10:19:57AM AND CAN ANYONE DO IT?
10:19:58AM BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE CITY PARTNERS LIKE THIS.
10:20:01AM AND ASSISTS.
10:20:03AM WHAT IS THE PROCESS AND CAN ANYONE -- CAN OTHER ENTITIES
10:20:06AM HAVE THE SAME PRIVILEGE?
10:20:14AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:20:16AM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICERS.
10:20:19AM YES, THE PROCESS INCLUDES -- EXCUSE ME -- WHAT WE ARE GOING
10:20:22AM THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
10:20:23AM TYPICALLY A PUBLIC PURPOSE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A NONPROFIT
10:20:28AM ORGANIZATION.
10:20:28AM AGAIN WE HAVE DONE THEM IN THE PAST.
10:20:30AM IF I CAN OFFER A FEW EXAMPLES THAT MAY SHED SOME CONTEXT.
10:20:38AM THE VOLUNTEERS OF, PAY CARE HEALTH, PEPIN ACADEMY, AND LOWRY
10:20:45AM PARK ZOO.
10:20:45AM A NONPROFIT WILL COME US TO TRYING TO ISSUE DEBT THAT IS TAX
10:20:49AM EXEMPT.
10:20:49AM THE PRESENCE OF A TAX EXEMPT IF YOU ARE A INVESTOR, YOU
10:20:56AM DON'T PAY FEDERAL TAXES ON YOUR INTEREST.
10:20:58AM YOU GET YOUR RETURN AND YOU DON'T PAY TAXES ON IT.
10:21:01AM THAT IS GREAT.
10:21:02AM YOU ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT A LITTLE BIT OF A LOWER INTEREST
10:21:06AM RATE THAT LOWERS THE BORROWING COST FOR THE ENTITY DOING THE
10:21:11AM BORROWING.
10:21:11AM TAMPA PREP WILL HAVE A LOWER COST.
10:21:15AM GOOD FOR THEM.
10:21:16AM A WIN, WIN.
10:21:17AM A PUBLIC PURPOSE THAT CITY COUNCIL AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
10:21:21AM AND BOND COUNCIL HAVE TO DECIDE IT IS A PUBLIC PURPOSE AND
10:21:25AM THE REVENUE STREAM TO PAY BACK THE DEBT HAS TO BE
10:21:29AM SCRUTINIZED.
10:21:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO.
10:21:34AM IF NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:21:37AM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:21:39AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:21:41AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:21:43AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:21:44AM MOTION CARRIED.
10:21:46AM YOU MOVED THE RESOLUTION.
10:21:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, I DID.
10:21:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:21:51AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:21:52AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:21:54AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:21:55AM THANK YOU.
10:21:56AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 22-25.
10:22:04AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:22:08AM SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
10:22:10AM 22-25 AT 1236 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO
10:22:18AM REGIONAL MIXED USE-100.
10:22:20AM RECEIVED APPROVAL IN WHY YOU ARE MARCH 23 MEETING AND BACK
10:22:23AM BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
10:22:24AM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:22:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:22:30AM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
10:22:34AM EVENING ITEM NUMBER 4?
10:22:36AM TA/CPA 22-25?
10:22:40AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:22:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:22:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU WANTING TO SPEAK?
10:22:47AM >> I AM GOING TO RESTATE WHAT SAM SAID.
10:22:49AM RECEIVED APPROVAL ON -- ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY
10:22:53AM DRIVE.
10:22:53AM WE REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL TODAY TOO.
10:22:55AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:22:57AM THANK YOU.
10:22:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CHOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:23:02AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:23:04AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:23:05AM ANY OPPOSE?
10:23:08AM MOTION PASSES.
10:23:08AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:23:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE
10:23:15AM NUMBER TA/CPA 22-25, ORDINANCE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
10:23:21AM OF AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
10:23:24AM FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT FOR PROPERTY 1236 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE
10:23:30AM FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL HI TO RESIDENTIAL MIXED
10:23:34AM USE-100, REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR
10:23:40AM SEVERABILITY.
10:23:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:23:44AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:23:46AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:23:47AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:23:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:55AM THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:23:59AM IF ANYONE IS GOING TO MAKE ANY TYPES OF COMMENTS OR GIVE ANY
10:24:02AM TYPE OF EVIDENCE, PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN.
10:24:05AM [SWEARING IN]
10:24:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:17AM AGENDA ITEM 5, FILE NUMBER AB 2-23-03.
10:24:23AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:24:25AM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:24:27AM COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND
10:24:30AM ADOPTION.
10:24:31AM A REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES FOR THE PROPERTY
10:24:34AM LOCATED 5017 EAST WASHINGTON.
10:24:37AM FOR A REQUEST FOR A LARGE VENUE AND CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE
10:24:42AM ONLY.
10:24:42AM FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
10:24:43AM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
10:24:48AM READING.
10:24:48AM THEY HAVE BEEN MADE AND SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND
10:24:52AM DELIVERED TO THE CLERK.
10:24:53AM STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:24:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:24:59AM THANK YOU.
10:24:59AM PETITIONER?
10:25:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, JAIME MAIER FOR THE APPLICANT, 101 E.
10:25:07AM KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
10:25:07AM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
10:25:08AM I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.
10:25:09AM WE ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND WILL RESPECT AN APPROVAL.
10:25:15AM THANK YOU.
10:25:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR PETITIONER?
10:25:18AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE
10:25:23AM NUMBER AB 2-23-03.
10:25:25AM MADAM CLERK, ANYONE ON LINE.
10:25:28AM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:25:30AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:25:31AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:25:33AM OPPOSED.
10:25:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: ORDINANCE SECOND READING ADOPTION SPECIAL USE
10:25:38AM PERMIT SU-2 FOR LARGE SALES, CONSUMPTION MAKING LAWFUL THE
10:25:44AM SALE OF.
10:25:46AM BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR LOCATED 507 EAST WASHINGTON STREET,
10:25:52AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3,
10:25:55AM PROVIDING ORDINANCES, PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT OF
10:25:58AM REPEALING ORDINANCES 2021-24 PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:26:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:26:06AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:26:08AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:26:09AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:26:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 FILE NUMBER
10:26:23AM AB 2-23-04.
10:26:27AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT
10:26:31AM COORDINATION.
10:26:31AM IN IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:26:33AM ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES.
10:26:35AM CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE ONLY AND REQUESTING BEER AND WINE.
10:26:39AM THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY 3407 AND 3409 SOUTH DALE MABRY
10:26:45AM HIGHWAY.
10:26:45AM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED FOR THIS APPLICATION.
10:26:49AM THOSE CHANGES WERE MADE.
10:26:50AM THE SITE PLAN WAS CERTIFIED AND HAVE BEEN DELIVERED TO THE
10:26:54AM COLLECT CLERK.
10:26:55AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:26:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:27:01AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:27:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PETITIONER.
10:27:04AM >> HELLO, ELIZABETH KELLAR ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, 1,000
10:27:09AM WEST CASS STREET.
10:27:10AM WE HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.
10:27:13AM THANK YOU.
10:27:14AM AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:27:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR PETITIONER?
10:27:18AM SEEING NONE.
10:27:19AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WANT TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TO ITEM
10:27:22AM NUMBER 6, AB 2-23-04?
10:27:25AM SEEING NONE, MADAM CLERK.
10:27:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:27:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:27:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:27:33AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:34AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:27:35AM ANY OPPOSE?
10:27:37AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:27:37AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:27:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:41AM ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION SU, SMALL VENUE
10:27:47AM ON-PREMISE ONLY AND SALE OF BEER AND WINE IN THAT LOT 3407
10:27:53AM AND 3409 SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:27:59AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING ALL
10:28:02AM ORDINANCES BE REPEALED.
10:28:04AM AND PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:28:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:28:08AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:28:10AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:28:12AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:28:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.
10:28:21AM PARDON ME, I AM SORRY?
10:28:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T START IN THE 10:30.
10:28:28AM TEN MINUTES.
10:28:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S TAKE A THREE-MINUTE BREAK.
10:28:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO OPEN 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:34:00AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:34:02AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:34:04AM ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-132.
10:34:10AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:34:11AM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:34:13AM COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING
10:34:16AM AND ADOPTION.
10:34:16AM THIS PROJECT IS THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
10:34:19AM LOCATED IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2609 NORTH ROME AVENUE
10:34:25AM AND 2301 NORTH OREGON AVENUE.
10:34:28AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM NMU-35 TO PD,
10:34:33AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
10:34:34AM IT IS FOR THE ALLOWABLE USES OF ALL NMU-5 USES, RETAIL
10:34:40AM SALES, SHOPPER GOODS, BUSINESS SCHOOLS AND VOCATIONAL
10:34:45AM SCHOOL.
10:34:46AM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
10:34:53AM CHANGES WERE MADE AND DELIVERED TO THE CLERK.
10:34:57AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:35:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:35:02AM SEEING NONE.
10:35:02AM PETITIONER?
10:35:08AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:35:09AM NICOLE NEUGEBAUER AT STEARNS WEAVER.
10:35:13AM I'M HERE AND THE DEVELOPER IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY
10:35:16AM QUESTIONS.
10:35:16AM WE ARE AVAILABLE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING.
10:35:18AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
10:35:20AM THANK YOU.
10:35:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:35:23AM THANK YOU.
10:35:23AM ANY PUBLIC -- ANY COMMENTS FROM PUBLIC -- FOR PUBLIC
10:35:29AM COMMENTS.
10:35:30AM EXCUSE ME.
10:35:31AM EASY FOR ME TO SAY.
10:35:32AM ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?
10:35:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:35:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:35:39AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:35:40AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:35:42AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:35:43AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:35:44AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:35:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER REZ-22-132, ORDINANCE PRESENTED
10:35:50AM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
10:35:53AM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2609 NORTH ROME AVENUE AND 2301
10:35:59AM NORTH OREGON AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
10:36:01AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:36:04AM CLASSIFICATION NMU-35, NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 35, TO PD,
10:36:10AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ALL NMU 35 USES, RETAIL SALES,
10:36:15AM SHOPPER'S GOODS, BUSINESS SCHOOL AND VOCATIONAL SCHOOL
10:36:18AM PROCEEDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:36:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:36:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:36:24AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:36:26AM PLEASE PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
10:36:29AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:36:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID THIS LAST TIME.
10:36:34AM A LOT OF CONCERNS IN THE PUBLIC OF THE WAY THE CITY HANDLED
10:36:37AM THE RFP ON THIS ORIGINAL PROJECT.
10:36:40AM I WANT TO STATE FOR ANYONE WATCHING WHO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT
10:36:43AM THAT, THIS IS A SEPARATE ISSUE.
10:36:44AM THESE ARE SEPARATE ISSUES AND THAT DECISION WAS MADE A
10:36:48AM COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BY THE CITY AND SEPARATE FROM THIS.
10:36:51AM I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
10:36:54AM THANK YOU.
10:36:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:37:01AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:37:02AM THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE NUMBER PH 23-80116.
10:37:11AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: GOOD MORNING, REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL
10:37:15AM DEPARTMENT.
10:37:15AM THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE
10:37:19AM RIVERWALK AGREEMENT FOR THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
10:37:23AM FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WAS LAST THURSDAY APRIL 13.
10:37:25AM THE DEVELOPER IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND WE ARE
10:37:28AM HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:37:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:37:32AM PETITIONER?
10:37:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, NICOLE NEUGEBAUER.
10:37:40AM I AM STILL HERE WITH THE DEVELOPER IF YOU HAVE ANY
10:37:42AM QUESTIONS.
10:37:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:37:45AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON
10:37:48AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE NUMBER PH 23-80116.
10:37:53AM SEEING NONE.
10:37:55AM MADAM CLERK, NO ONE ONLINE.
10:37:57AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO CLOSE.
10:38:00AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:38:01AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:38:02AM ANY OBJECTIONS?
10:38:03AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:38:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:38:09AM >> SECOND.
10:38:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY
10:38:12AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:38:13AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:38:15AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:38:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL DO THIS ON THE NEXT THREE ALSO.
10:38:18AM I WANT TO SAY IT ON THE RECORD IN CASE PEOPLE ARE MAKING
10:38:22AM FLYERS IN THE FUTURE THAT THIS IS NOTHING DO WITH THE
10:38:26AM ORIGINAL RFP WITH THE CITY.
10:38:30AM AND THIS IS SEPARATE FROM THE DECISION.
10:38:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:38:33AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:38:35AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:38:36AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-81029.
10:38:46AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: GOOD MORNING, REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL
10:38:48AM DEPARTMENT.
10:38:49AM APPROVAL THE ROME YARD AGENCY TESTIMONIAL AND DESIGN REVIEW
10:38:55AM GUIDELINES.
10:38:55AM THAT WAS PART OF THE REZONING THAT WAS JUST APPROVED.
10:38:57AM THOSE GUIDELINES ARE REQUIRED TO BE PURSUED WITH THE LAND
10:39:01AM DISPOSITION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES.
10:39:03AM I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:39:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:39:09AM PETITIONER?
10:39:11AM NICOLE NEUGEBAUER.
10:39:16AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:39:18AM THANK YOU.
10:39:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:39:21AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TO FILE
10:39:26AM NUMBER 9, BZP 23-01029.
10:39:31AM ANYONE ONLINE?
10:39:33AM MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:39:35AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:39:36AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:39:37AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:39:39AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:39:39AM WHAT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
10:39:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:39:43AM >> SECOND.
10:39:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO MOVE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:39:46AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:39:48AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:39:48AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
10:39:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, I WANT TO AGAIN -- I WILL DO THIS ONE
10:39:54AM MORE TIME FOR THE RECORD, FOR ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY HOP
10:39:57AM ARE CONCERNED OF THE WAY THE CITY HANDLED THE ORIGINAL RFP
10:40:02AM ON THIS PROCESS MADE IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND DIFFERENT
10:40:05AM AND SEPARATE FROM THIS.
10:40:06AM THANK YOU.
10:40:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:40:08AM ANY OPPOSE?
10:40:10AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:40:11AM THANK YOU.
10:40:12AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-81028.
10:40:18AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:40:20AM THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ROME YARD PHASING AND TIMING
10:40:24AM PLAN.
10:40:24AM THE PHASING AND TIMING PLAN WAS AN EXHIBIT OR AN EXHIBIT TO
10:40:28AM THE MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE AND RIVER WALK AGREEMENT THAT WAS
10:40:30AM JUST APPROVED.
10:40:31AM THIS APPROVAL IS REQUIRED BY THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT
10:40:35AM BETWEEN THE PARTIES.
10:40:36AM I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:40:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:40:41AM PETITIONER?
10:40:42AM >> LAST TIME.
10:40:43AM GOOD MORNING, NICOLE NEUGEBAUER, EAST JACKSON STREET, FOR THE
10:40:48AM RECORD.
10:40:48AM I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:40:50AM THANKS.
10:40:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS -- DON'T SAY LAST TIME.
10:40:53AM I AM SURE YOU WILL BE HERE IN THE FUTURE.
10:40:55AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TO
10:40:59AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-81028.
10:41:06AM MADAM CLERK.
10:41:07AM NO ONE ON LINE.
10:41:08AM MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:41:10AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:41:11AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:41:12AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:41:13AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:41:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION --
10:41:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY
10:41:23AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:41:24AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:41:26AM ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
10:41:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
10:41:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:41:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONCE AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, ANY MEMBERS OF
10:41:33AM THE PUBLIC WHO WAS CONCERNED OF THE ORIGINAL RFP ON THIS.
10:41:37AM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE DECISION WAS MADE.
10:41:40AM THIS IS ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AND SO I
10:41:42AM SUPPORT IT.
10:41:43AM THANK YOU.
10:41:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:41:45AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:41:47AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:41:47AM WE ARE GOING INTO AGAIN QUASI-JUDICIAL, AND I SAW PEOPLE
10:41:59AM COME IN WHO WEREN'T SWORN IN BEFORE.
10:42:01AM IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN AND GOING TO GIVE ANY TYPE OF
10:42:05AM TESTIMONY OR ANY TYPE OF EVIDENCE, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN
10:42:10AM IN.
10:42:11AM OKAY.
10:42:17AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.
10:42:23AM FILE NUMBER VAC-23-04.
10:42:30AM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:42:36AM PRESENTING VAC-23-04.
10:42:40AM ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN PLEASE.
10:42:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:42:45AM I DO NOT SEE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
10:42:47AM >>ROSS SAMONS: AGAIN, ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT,
10:42:53AM PRESENTING VAC-23-04.
10:42:55AM A VACATING REQUEST.
10:42:56AM THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS ALEX GONZALEZ, JR.
10:43:03AM PROPERTY ADDRESS.
10:43:08AM TO VACATE A PORTION OF ALBANY AVENUE FROM FRIERSON AVENUE,
10:43:15AM SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, EAST OF HOWARD AVENUE AND WEST
10:43:18AM OF MENDENHALL DRIVE.
10:43:21AM FILED IN 2022.
10:43:23AM THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON THE LEFT SIDE THAT HAVE ASKED
10:43:29AM TO BE VACATED.
10:43:30AM TO PROVIDE INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR A STRIP PLAZA.
10:43:36AM THE EXISTING ALLEY IS 13,350 SQUARE FEET.
10:43:41AM AN AERIAL VIEW SHOWING THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
10:43:45AM PORTION OF ALBANY REQUEST TO BE VACATED IS IN YELLOW.
10:43:49AM APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED.
10:43:51AM AGAIN, SHOWING THE PLAT, SUBDIVISION PLAT, DEDICATED ALBANY
10:44:02AM AVENUE.
10:44:02AM A PORTION OF THE REQUEST TO BE VACATED IN RED.
10:44:04AM THERE IS AN INTERNAL ATLAS SHEET SHOWING PREVIOUS VACATINGS
10:44:14AM IN THE AREA.
10:44:14AM THE PORTION OF ALBANY AVENUE IN RED THAT IS REQUESTED TO BE
10:44:18AM VACATED.
10:44:18AM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH FROM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE NEAR THE
10:44:26AM OWNER'S PROPERTY AND THE REQUESTED ALBANY AVENUE TO BE
10:44:33AM VACATED.
10:44:34AM THIS IS LOOKING NORTHWEST FROM NORTH ALEXANDER ROAD.
10:44:39AM AGAIN, THE GENERAL AREA OF NORTH ALBANY, THE PLATTED NORTH
10:44:44AM ALBANY IS REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.
10:44:46AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
10:44:51AM EASEMENT RESERVATIONS REQUIRED BY TECO.
10:44:55AM SPECIAL CONDITIONS FROM NATURAL RESOURCES.
10:44:57AM MUST COMPLY TO CHAPTER 27 OF TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE
10:45:01AM DESIGN FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS PLACED IN PLACE OF TREES
10:45:06AM VACATED.
10:45:06AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:45:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. SAMONS.
10:45:13AM QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:45:15AM PETITIONER?
10:45:18AM >>RON WIGGINTON: RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:45:21AM I BELIEVE THE PETITIONER NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
10:45:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:45:24AM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WILL BE GIVING ANY TYPE OF
10:45:28AM TESTIMONY, THE REST OF THE QUASI JUDICIAL, WILL YOU PLEASE
10:45:31AM RISE TO BE SWORN IN.
10:45:32AM [SWEARING IN]
10:45:49AM >> I AM THE APPLICANT.
10:45:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FORGIVE ME ONE SECOND.
10:45:53AM SIR, ARE YOU GOING TO BE SWORN?
10:45:55AM DO YOU HAVE A CASE BEFORE US TODAY?
10:45:58AM DO YOU HAVE --
10:45:59AM >> YEAH, I HAVE A CASE --
10:46:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLEASE RISE AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND
10:46:06AM SWEAR IN.
10:46:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: STAND UP.
10:46:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:46:10AM [SWEARING IN]
10:46:13AM >> YES.
10:46:14AM >>CLERK: THANK YOU.
10:46:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:46:17AM YES, SIR, PLEASE PROCEED.
10:46:19AM >> APPLICANT AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
10:46:24AM WE HAD TO DO THE PETITION BECAUSE TWO LOTS ON THE REAR OF
10:46:28AM THE PROPERTY.
10:46:28AM THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS PLOTTED ONLY HALF OF A ROADWAY.
10:46:31AM THE OTHER HALF WAS NEVER DEDICATED BY THE ADJOINING PROPERTY
10:46:36AM OWNERS.
10:46:36AM SO NO WAY FOR ME TO DEVELOP A ROAD AND ACCESS MY REAR LOTS.
10:46:42AM THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE VACATING.
10:46:45AM MAKE THE PROJECT MORE -- MORE ENTICING.
10:46:47AM THE OTHER PROBLEM IS THE ACCESS -- LIKE I SAID, WATER AND
10:46:54AM SEWER.
10:46:54AM MY OTHER PROBLEM IS THAT I CAN'T DESIGN ANYTHING UNTIL I
10:46:59AM KNOW WHERE THIS IS HEADED WITH THE VACATING.
10:47:01AM THAT IS THE ONLY -- IF ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM
10:47:05AM PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:47:07AM >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:47:11AM SIR, FROM THE AERIAL, IT LOOKS AS IF THIS ALLEYWAY IS
10:47:19AM CLOGGED WITH TREES.
10:47:20AM >> YES, IT IS.
10:47:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IMPASSIBLE.
10:47:24AM >> MY SURVEYOR HAD PROBLEMS WITH IT AND HAD TO PUT STAKES
10:47:28AM BECAUSE FILLED WITH BRAZILIAN PEPPERS.
10:47:31AM NO -- NO GRAND OAK TREES ARE THERE.
10:47:35AM SOME AUSTRALIAN PINES ON THE PROPERTY.
10:47:38AM BUT IT IS INFESTED WITH AUSTRALIAN PEPPERS.
10:47:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:47:47AM IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK -- IN
10:47:51AM CHAMBERS WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
10:47:58AM 11, VAC-23-04.
10:47:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:48:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:48:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:48:04AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:48:06AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:48:07AM OPPOSED?
10:48:09AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:48:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, FILE NUMBER 11, FILE
10:48:13AM NUMBER VAC-23 -04.
10:48:15AM ORDER NANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
10:48:17AM ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING,
10:48:21AM DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THAT PORTION OF THE UNIMPROVED
10:48:24AM ALBANY AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH OF
10:48:29AM UNIMPROVED FRIERSON AVENUE, SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE,
10:48:32AM EAST OF HOWARD AVENUE, WEST OF MENDENHALL DRIVE WITHIN THE
10:48:35AM PLATTED ZAMBITO SUBDIVISION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:48:40AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA,ING FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
10:48:43AM 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND
10:48:49AM RESTRICTIONS AND MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
10:48:54AM PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
10:48:57AM PROVIDING FOR DEFENSE NEGLECTING PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:49:02AM DATE.
10:49:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FEV MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:04AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:49:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:49:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:49:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:49:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:49:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:49:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:49:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:49:14AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:49:17AM SECOND READING AND ADOPT MAY 8, 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:49:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:49:25AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, FILE NUMBER VAC-23-07.
10:49:33AM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
10:49:38AM PRESENTING VAC-23-07.FIRST READING FOR A PROPOSED REZONING
10:49:44AM ASK.
10:49:44AM APPLICANT IS RODOLFO SCHEFER.
10:49:51AM TO VACATE A PORTION OF WEST JUNEAU STREET OF WILMA AND WEST
10:49:59AM OF N. BOULEVARD.
10:50:00AM EAST OF EDISON AVENUE.
10:50:02AM THIS ACTION WAS FILED DECEMBER 9, 2022.
10:50:08AM THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY THAT IS PROPOSING TO BE VACATED.
10:50:12AM THE STREET WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT.
10:50:16AM THIS EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 12,350 SQUARE
10:50:21AM FEET.
10:50:21AM AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN YELLOW.
10:50:28AM OWNER'S PROPERTY IN RED.
10:50:30AM AND SHOWING THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN RED WITHIN THE
10:50:39AM SUBDIVISION PLAT.
10:50:40AM AGAIN, THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN RED.
10:50:50AM THIS IS WITHIN A SECTION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA INTERNAL
10:50:56AM ATLAS, AGAIN, SHOWING PREVIOUS VACATES IN THE AREA.
10:50:59AM THEY ARE HATCHED WITH THESE ALLEYS.
10:51:01AM THIS IS LOOKING EAST FROM WEST JUNEAU STREET.
10:51:08AM AND APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE STREET OR ALLEY TO IT BE
10:51:15AM VACATED.
10:51:15AM THIS IS LOOKING WEST FROM NORTH BOULEVARD AT THE END OF THE
10:51:21AM APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE STREET TO BE VACATED -- PROPOSED
10:51:25AM TO BE VACATED, I AM SORRY.
10:51:28AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE VACATING REQUEST.
10:51:30AM EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED BY SPECTRUM AND TECO.
10:51:34AM SPECIAL CONDITIONS INCLUDE NATURAL RESOURCES AND FIRE.
10:51:37AM NATURAL RESOURCES TO COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 WITH REGARD TO
10:51:42AM TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN.
10:51:44AM PLACEMENT OF TREES IN THE VACATED AREA.
10:51:49AM IT NEEDS TO MEET ALL FIRE REGULATIONS.
10:51:54AM THAT IS MY PRESENTATION.
10:51:55AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:51:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:52:00AM THANK YOU.
10:52:00AM PETITIONER?
10:52:11AM YES, SIR.
10:52:11AM >> HI, MY NAME IS RODOFO SCHEFER, I LIVE NORTH EDISON
10:52:20AM AVENUE.
10:52:20AM I COME HERE TO VACATE A VACANCY OF THE JUNEAU STREET.
10:52:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:52:35AM IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC
10:52:39AM COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, FILE NUMBER VAC-23-07.
10:52:44AM MADAM CLERK, ANYONE ON LINE?
10:52:48AM >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
10:52:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:52:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
10:52:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:52:55AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:52:56AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:52:57AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:52:59AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:53:00AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:53:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE FILE NUMBER VAC-23-07.
10:53:07AM ORDINANCE PRESENTED ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:53:11AM FLORIDA, CLOSE, DISCONTINUING OR ABANDONING THAT PORTION OF
10:53:15AM JUNEAU STREET LOCATED NORTH OF SITKA STREET SOUTH OF WATERS
10:53:19AM AVENUE, EAST OF EDISON AVENUE AND WEST OF N. BOULEVARD WITH
10:53:22AM THE PLAT OF WILMA SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:53:26AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, FULLY DESCRIBED IN EXCEPTION 2
10:53:29AM HEREOF, CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS
10:53:34AM PARTICULARLY SET FORTH, PROVIDING FOR PENALTY FOR
10:53:38AM VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND
10:53:41AM REPEALING CONFLICTS.
10:53:42AM PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:53:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
10:53:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:53:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:53:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:53:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:53:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:53:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:53:56AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:53:59AM MAY 18, 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:54:03AM >>> FEEL NUMBER DE 1-23-88-C HAS ASKED FOR AT THAT
10:54:09AM CONTINUANCE UNTIL MAY 18 MAY I HAVE A MOTION.
10:54:13AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I AM SORRY, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
10:54:16AM FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:54:17AM MAY 18 AT, I BELIEVE, 10:30?
10:54:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED FOR MAY 19 AT 10:30 A.M.
10:54:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:54:27AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:54:29AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:54:31AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:54:32AM MOTION PASSES.
10:54:33AM >>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14.
10:54:35AM FILE NUMBER E 2023-8, CHAPTER 2.
10:54:40AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:54:52AM I THOUGHT MISS ANDREA ZELMAN WOULD BE HERE TO PRESENT THIS.
10:54:55AM BUT THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO MAKE ALL THE PRONOUNS IN THE
10:54:58AM CHARTER GENDER NEUTRAL WHICH WAS PART OF WHAT WAS VOTED ON
10:55:02AM SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THAT
10:55:07AM MANY OF YOU SERVED ON WITH MISS ZELMAN AND ME.
10:55:10AM THIS IS WHAT THIS ACCOMPLISHES.
10:55:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTION FROM COUNCIL?
10:55:15AM I BELIEVE THAT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE PEOPLE IN THIS
10:55:18AM ROOM ALL ASKED FOR THAT TO BE CHANGED.
10:55:21AM AND I AM SURPRISED IT HAS TAKEN THIS LONG.
10:55:25AM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:55:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:55:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA -- EXCUSE ME COUNCILMAN
10:55:34AM CARLSON.
10:55:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR
10:55:36AM MOVING THIS FORWARD FINALLY.
10:55:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, THANK YOU.
10:55:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:55:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM
10:55:46AM NUMBER 14, FILE NUMBER E 2023-8, CHAPTER 2.
10:55:51AM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:55:53AM AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:55:55AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:55:56AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:55:58AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:55:59AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:56:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: AND I, AGAIN, AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID THANK
10:56:06AM EVERYBODY WHO WAS ON THE COMMITTEE -- THE CHARTER COMMISSION
10:56:10AM INCLUDING THE FOLKS UP HERE.
10:56:11AM MICHAEL STEVENS WHO I PUT ON THERE WAS A GREAT GUY.
10:56:15AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
10:56:18AM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, IMPLEMENT THAT
10:56:27AM CHARTER CHANGE AND APPROVED BY THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS AS
10:56:31AM AMENDMENT ONE IN IT THE MARCH 5, 2019 ELECTION BY REVISING
10:56:35AM THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS TO REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO GENDER,
10:56:40AM QUALIFICATIONS, LIMITATION, SECTION 2.03, ORGANIZATION,
10:56:46AM SECTION 2.10, VETO, SECTION 2.13, RECORDING AND
10:56:50AM AUTHENTIFICATION, SECTION 5.01A, DEPARTMENTS, LEGAL
10:56:56AM DEPARTMENT, SECTION 7.02, BUDGET, SECTION 8.07, CONFLICTS,
10:57:01AM SECTION 10.02, SUCCESSION.
10:57:04AM SECTION 10.06 REEMPLOYMENT, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR
10:57:09AM PARTS OF ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND
10:57:12AM PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE MYTH S.
10:57:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECONDED BY
10:57:17AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:57:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:57:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:57:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
10:57:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:57:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:57:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:57:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
10:57:24AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SECOND READING AND
10:57:27AM ADOPTION HELD MAY 18, 2023 AT 9:0 A.M.
10:57:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:57:34AM A QUICK COMMENT BECAUSE THE WORD "GENDER" IS THROWN AROUND A
10:57:38AM LOT.
10:57:38AM ANYBODY WATCHING WHO HAVEN'T FOLLOWED THIS.
10:57:41AM THE CHARTER AS IT WAS WRITTEN IN 1995 ONLY SAID HE AND THREE
10:57:47AM FEMALE MAYORS SINCE THEN.
10:57:48AM WHEN YOU SAY "HE" IN THE CHARTER AND A FEMALE MAYOR, IT IS
10:57:53AM AWKWARD.
10:57:53AM MANY PLACES THEY JUST CHANGED IT FROM HE TO MAYOR.
10:57:57AM SO IT WOULD BE MORE ACCURATE.
10:57:59AM THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
10:58:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:58:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
10:58:04AM MOVE 15-29.
10:58:12AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:58:13AM OPPOSED.
10:58:15AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:58:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE 30-37.
10:58:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:58:22AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:58:23AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:58:24AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:58:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 38-50.
10:58:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:58:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:58:33AM SECONDED I DID COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:58:35AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:58:36AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAVE FINANCE.
10:58:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 52-55.
10:58:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:58:46AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:58:48AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:58:49AM THANK YOU.
10:58:51AM MOTION PASSES.
10:58:52AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUILDING AND ZONING.
10:58:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 56-64.
10:58:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:59:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:59:03AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:59:05AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:59:06AM OPPOSED.
10:59:07AM THANK YOU.
10:59:07AM CANCER MANISCALCO.
10:59:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE 65 AND 66.
10:59:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A SECOND.
10:59:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
10:59:16AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:59:16AM OPPOSED?
10:59:17AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:59:18AM DO WE HAVE MISS DUNCAN AVAILABLE FOR STAFF REPORTS?
10:59:25AM I KNOW SHE WAS GOING TO COME IN PLACE -- COUNCILWOMAN
10:59:32AM HURTAK.
10:59:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SPEAK TO MISS DUNCAN ABOUT AN ISSUE SHE WAS
10:59:35AM GOING TO BRING BEFORE US.
10:59:36AM AND SHE DECIDED TO PAUSE ON US SO MAY NOT BE UP HERE.
10:59:43AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I SAW A TEXT FROM MISS DUNCAN SHE WOULD NOT
10:59:49AM BE HERE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
10:59:52AM A MEMO ASKING FOR YOU TO HAVE A WORKSHOP REGARDING THE
10:59:56AM PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 27.
10:59:58AM I WOULD PUT THAT MAYBE THIS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO
11:00:02AM MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THEM ON TO THE WORKSHOP.
11:00:10AM FROM STEPHEN BENSON, ERIC COTTON, ABOUT NINE DIFFERENT TEXT
11:00:19AM AMENDMENTS THAT THEY HAD PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON -- OVER.
11:00:21AM AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT TO THE WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK
11:00:26AM ANTICIPATE 27 TO YOUR AGENDA SO THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH
11:00:29AM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BACK TO YOU FOR JUNE FOR FORMAL
11:00:37AM CONSIDERATION.
11:00:37AM I HAVE A COPY OF THE MEMO.
11:00:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THIS MOTION NOW?
11:00:47AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO THE APRIL 27, 2023
11:00:51AM WORKSHOP PLANNING COMMISSION'S REQUEST TO TRANSMIT THE
11:00:55AM PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR THE 2023 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
11:01:00AM IT CAN BE IN THE AMENDMENT CYCLE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:01:02AM >> SECOND.
11:01:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAS THIS FOR LATER?
11:01:07AM IT IS FINE?
11:01:09AM ALL RIGHT.
11:01:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:01:11AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:01:13AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:01:14AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:01:15AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:01:16AM THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.
11:01:17AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 69, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-81006.
11:01:27AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:01:29AM THE GRANT FUNDING AGREEMENT YOU APPROVED FOR CRA FOR A $14
11:01:35AM MILLION CRA GRANT FOR REHABILITATION AND RENOVATIONS TO THE
11:01:39AM TAMPA THEATRE.
11:01:39AM SINCE THIS IS A CITY-OWNED AUDITORIUM, THE CITY NEEDS TO BE
11:01:46AM PART OF THE AGREEMENT.
11:01:48AM IDENTICAL WHAT YOU APPROVED PREVIOUSLY AS THE CRA.
11:01:52AM I WILL LET YOU KNOW WE MAY BE COMING FORWARD IN MAY WITH A
11:01:57AM SLIGHT AMENDMENT FROM SCOPE.
11:01:58AM TAMPA THEATRE WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME PROJECTS TO THE SCOPE.
11:02:00AM AND IT IS RELATIVELY MINOR CHANGE WE WILL BRING FORWARD IN
11:02:06AM MAY.
11:02:06AM BUT WILL GO AND SOLIDIFY THE GRANT AGREEMENT.
11:02:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:02:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ADD FOR THE THEATRE ON THE SITE.
11:02:17AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE SECOND SCREENING ROOM PETITION WOULD
11:02:19AM LIKE TO BUILD ON PARKLAND STREET.
11:02:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
11:02:22AM MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:02:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:02:27AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:02:28AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:02:29AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:02:30AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:02:33AM NOW AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 70, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-81038.
11:02:41AM THEY WENT TOGETHER?
11:02:45AM OKAY THEN.
11:02:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION ITEM NUMBER 70.
11:02:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:02:52AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE FIRST INSTALLMENT APPROVING THE
11:02:57AM MOVEMENT OF THE MONEY FOR THE FIRST INSTALLMENT OF THE
11:03:00AM GRANT.
11:03:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:03:03AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:03:04AM ANY OPPOSITION?
11:03:08AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:03:09AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:03:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY.
11:03:11AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES.
11:03:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I KNOW WE APPROVED IT IN THE CRA.
11:03:15AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR.
11:03:17AM I ALWAYS LOOK TO SEE THAT WE GET SOMETHING FOR THE MONEY.
11:03:23AM THEY IS IT SAY THEY WOULD RECOGNIZE THE CRA FOR GIVING
11:03:27AM DOLLARS.
11:03:28AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: AN EXHIBIT TO THE GRANT FUNDING AGREEMENT
11:03:31AM TO RECOGNIZE THE CRA FOR PROVIDING THE GRANT FUNDS AND YOU
11:03:34AM ALL WILL BE RECOGNIZED AS A LEAD DONOR IN CONNECTION WITH
11:03:39AM ANY PROJECTS IN CONNECTION WITH THE UPDATE AND
11:03:41AM REHABILITATION OF THE THEATRE.
11:03:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:03:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYBODY WATCHING FOR THE FIRST TIME.
11:03:50AM CRA MONEY FROM THE DOWNTOWN CRA CAN ONLY BE SPENT IN
11:03:55AM DOWNTOWN AND CRA MONEY AND SPENT ON SLUM AND BLIGHT.
11:03:59AM LITERALLY NO SLUM AND BLIGHT.
11:04:02AM THE CRA BOARD SITTING AS CITY COUNCIL, PUSH IT TO AMENITIES
11:04:08AM THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE CULTURE AND HISTORY OF TAMPA THAT
11:04:11AM EVERYBODY CAN PARTICIPATE AND ENJOY.
11:04:12AM AND THIS WE ARE PROUD AS TAMPA CITIZENS THIS IS ONE OF THE
11:04:15AM ICONS OF OUR CITY.
11:04:17AM IT CAN NOT BE -- THIS MONEY COULD BE SPENT ON AFFORDABLE
11:04:20AM HOUSING OR ROADS OR ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE IT IS IN THE
11:04:23AM DOWNTOWN CRA.
11:04:25AM ALSO I WANT TO ADD THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF GREAT
11:04:28AM LEADERS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
11:04:30AM MY COLLEAGUES NANO MORE.
11:04:31AM ONES I KNOW THAT ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN SAVING AND PRESERVING
11:04:36AM IT.
11:04:36AM JOHN BELL HERE A WHILE AGO.
11:04:38AM LINDA SAUL-SENA, FORMER CITY COUNCILPERSON AND FORMER CHAIR.
11:04:42AM HENRY GONZALEZ, WHO WORKED ON SAVING AND RENOVATING THIS.
11:04:46AM AND WAY BACK LONG TIME AGO, CHARLIE BRITTON, A GREAT --
11:04:51AM STILL AROUND AND GREAT VISIONARY OF TAMPA THEATRE MANY YEARS
11:04:54AM AGO.
11:04:54AM THANK YOU.
11:04:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:05:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 71.
11:05:06AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: BEFORE YOU HEAD TO 71, MISS DUNCAN DID SHOW
11:05:09AM UP AND HAS A BRIEF UPDATE.
11:05:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS DUNCAN.
11:05:14AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: MY APOLOGIES.
11:05:16AM A NICE QUICK PACE THIS MORNING.
11:05:18AM JEAN DUNCAN, INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.
11:05:23AM I HAVE ONE ITEM TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ALONG WITH DENNIS
11:05:26AM ROGERO.
11:05:26AM A COUPLE OF MOTIONS MADE REGARDING A CIP UPDATE.
11:05:31AM IF YOU RECALL IN JANUARY, WE PROVIDED A CIP UPDATE AND
11:05:37AM AGREED TO COME IN ON A BIANNUAL BASIS TO INFORM ON KEY
11:05:42AM PROJECTS.
11:05:42AM AT THAT MOTION CURRENTLY FOR COMING BACK ON APRIL 27.
11:05:46AM THERE IS ANOTHER MOTION TO COME BACK JUNE 22, BOTH FOR A CIP
11:05:51AM UPDATE.
11:05:52AM DENNIS AND I WERE TALKING OF THE MIDYEAR BUDGET REVIEW THAT
11:05:56AM IS USUALLY IN THE TIME FRAME.
11:05:58AM SO WE HAVE A CONTINUANCE THAT IS GOING IN.
11:06:01AM BUT WE WANT TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION WE WOULD LIKE TO
11:06:05AM TAKE THOSE TWO CIP UPDATES AND COMBINE THEM WITH THE MIDYEAR
11:06:09AM BUDGET REVIEW ITEM ON THE MAY 25 WORKSHOP.
11:06:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
11:06:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
11:06:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I, JUST BECAUSE -- IT IS VERY RELEVANT.
11:06:22AM UNDER NEW BUSINESS, I WAS GOING TO BRING TO COUNCIL THE FACT
11:06:26AM THAT THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF THE -- THE CITIZENS
11:06:30AM BUDGET AND FINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS PART OF ITS PROCESS
11:06:34AM WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ITS PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE.
11:06:38AM AND I AM WONDERING WHETHER IT IS APPROPRIATE OR BETTER TO
11:06:42AM PUT IT OFF INTO JUNE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU WILL
11:06:45AM HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THERE TO MAKE THE
11:06:47AM PRESENTATION.
11:06:47AM WE SPOKE -- I SPOKE WITH MIKE PERRY IN THE LAST MEETING
11:06:52AM ABOUT THIS AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COORDINATE IT.
11:06:53AM ULTIMATELY IF WANT TO HAVE THIS IN MAY, THAT WILL BE
11:06:58AM COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
11:06:59AM THAT WILL BE FINE.
11:06:59AM BUT TO LET YOU KNOW I WILL BE AT THE REQUEST OF THE
11:07:03AM COMMITTEE REQUESTING THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY MAKE A
11:07:08AM PRESENTATION RELATIVE TO THIS SORT OF STUFF IN PREPARATION
11:07:10AM OF THE PRESENTATION OF THE BUDGET AND THE 911CIP TO CITY
11:07:18AM COUNCIL.
11:07:18AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CHANGES YOUR DYNAMICS OR NOT.
11:07:21AM >> I APPRECIATE YOU SURFACING THAT.
11:07:23AM KEEN ON JUNE 22.
11:07:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION A JUNE 22 WORKSHOP.
11:07:32AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THEY THINK IS PERFECT TIMING.
11:07:34AM EARLIER THAN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO GIVE COUNCIL TIME
11:07:37AM TO RUMINATE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AS WE GEAR UP OF PROVIDING
11:07:42AM THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
11:07:45AM FROM A MAY 25 WORKSHOP PERSPECTIVE, THAT IS MORE KEY TOWARD
11:07:50AM HOW WE ARE DOING IN THE CURRENT YEAR.
11:07:52AM AGAIN, JEAN AND I THOUGHT THAT RATHER HAVING A CIP UPDATE
11:08:00AM OFTEN THE FOREFRONT AND HAVING A CIP UPDATE RIGHT AFTER
11:08:05AM THAT, TYPICALLY THEY ARE RELATED AND TOUCH ON THE CAPITAL
11:08:10AM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUT WON'T GO INTO DETAIL.
11:08:13AM TWO INTERRELATED ITEMS THAT PROVIDE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC A
11:08:17AM NICE, BROAD, HOLISTIC VIEW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE CITY
11:08:25AM AND TIMING IS WELL-PLACED FOR THE JUNE WORKSHOP AND HAVE THE
11:08:29AM CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD COME IN LOOKING AHEAD FOR FISCAL
11:08:32AM YEAR '24.
11:08:33AM THAT IS MY THINKING.
11:08:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:08:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS GOING IN THE APRIL 14 CITIZENS
11:08:41AM BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
11:08:42AM THEY PASSED A PASSED A MOTION TO COME PRESENT ON JUNE 22.
11:08:48AM THAT IS OUR WORKSHOP SESSION AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING.
11:08:52AM THEY WANT TO DISCUSS IT WITH US.
11:08:54AM I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AT THE END OF THE MEETING BUT
11:08:57AM SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
11:09:00AM I WILL SAVE IT TO THE END BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
11:09:04AM ALERTED THEY WANT TO COME IN ON JUNE 22.
11:09:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:09:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IT IS PER EFFECT THEY HAVE A MONTH.
11:09:11AM THEY CAN WATCH THE PRESENTATION IN MAY.
11:09:13AM AND HAVE A MONTH TO THINK ABOUT IT.
11:09:14AM THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ASK TO TRY TO PREVENT SOME OF
11:09:18AM THE ISSUES WE HAD IN THE PAST.
11:09:19AM I WOULD ASK MAYBE CFO, CHIEF OF STAFF, OTHERS, TO SIT DOWN
11:09:26AM WITH THE COMMITTEE BEFORE THEY PRESENT TO US OR MEET WITH
11:09:28AM THEM.
11:09:30AM IF THEY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS.
11:09:31AM 37 THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO THEY PRESENT AND THEY ARE ABLE TO
11:09:36AM SAY THEY -- THEY OR YOU ARE ABLE TO SAY THE ADMINISTRATION
11:09:39AM HAS ALREADY AGREED TO CERTAIN THINGS THAT WOULD SAVE A LOT
11:09:43AM OF TIMES.
11:09:43AM OTHERWISE, POTENTIALLY EYE LOT OF POLITICS THAT THE PUBLIC
11:09:49AM DOESN'T WANT TO SEE.
11:09:50AM IT WOULD BE TO GREAT IF A LOT OF IT WAS WORKED OUT IN
11:09:54AM ADVANCE.
11:09:55AM IF YOU ALL WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND IF SUGGEST WE
11:09:59AM WORKED WITH THEM AND MODIFIED AND MADE IT BETTER.
11:10:02AM TO SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
11:10:04AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
11:10:06AM WE ARE WORKING ON THIS.
11:10:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:10:10AM AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON ON MAY 5.
11:10:15AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: 25th, SIR.
11:10:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:10:18AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:10:20AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:10:22AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:23AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
11:10:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 71, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-81027.
11:10:31AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:10:40AM NICOLE TRAVIS, DEVELOPER OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
11:10:43AM YOU SAW MISS KAYON HENDERSON IN THE AUDIENCE.
11:10:47AM SHE WENT TO A PRESS CONFERENCE AT TAMPA HOPE AND ON HER WAY
11:10:51AM BACK, SO YOU MAY SEE HER HOBBLING IN HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.
11:10:54AM ITEM NUMBER 71 IS A SHIP AGREEMENT.
11:10:59AM AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE PITTMAN
11:11:02AM DESIGN GROUP PROVIDING A LOAN OF $3,156,500.
11:11:08AM AND THIS IS -- SHIP FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT.
11:11:13AM THIS PROJECT IS TEN TOWN HOMES BUILT ON THE PROPERTY.
11:11:19AM ALL OF THE HOMES ARE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE 80% AMI AND BELOW.
11:11:24AM AND 60% OF THOSE UNITS HAVE TO BE AT 50% BELOW AMI.
11:11:32AM THE PITTMAN GROUP -- THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS A MINORITY
11:11:38AM DEVELOPER.
11:11:38AM TWO OF IT THE THREE DEVELOPERS ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WITH
11:11:40AM US.
11:11:44AM WE ARE VERY EXCITED THE PROJECT.
11:11:46AM $3.1 MILLION INCLUDE ASSISTANCE WITH ACQUISITION ACQUISITION
11:11:51AM OF THE LAND AND 200,000 PER UNIT IN SUBSIDIZING THE UNITS.
11:11:55AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:11:58AM I PRAY THAT I CAN ANSWER THEM.
11:12:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ANSWERED THE FIRST QUESTION AND THAT
11:12:07AM WAS GOING TO BE WHO IS THE PITTMAN DESIGN GROUP.
11:12:10AM YOU SAID MINORITY DEVELOPER.
11:12:13AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:12:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A LOCAL FIRM.
11:12:18AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GRADUATES OF TAMPA BAY TECH HIGH SCHOOL AND
11:12:23AM CAME HOME.
11:12:23AM I HAVE A LIST OF -- OR I HAVE A LIST IN MY E-MAIL OF
11:12:26AM DIFFERENT PROJECTS THEY HAVE DONE IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM
11:12:33AM THEM.
11:12:33AM >> WHAT PART OF TOWN WILL THEY BE BUILT ON.
11:12:39AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ON COLUMBUS AND 22nd STREET.
11:12:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NORTHWEST CORNER.
11:12:44AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SORRY?
11:12:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NORTHWEST CORNER?
11:12:48AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NORTHWEST CORNER.
11:12:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD BECAUSE HISTORICALLY.
11:12:58AM I HAVE SEEN PHOTOS BACK IN THE DAY TO HELP FILL IT IN WHILE
11:13:03AM ADDRESSING HOUSING CONCERNS.
11:13:04AM I KNOW TEN HERE.
11:13:08AM TEN THERE.
11:13:09AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SMALL LOTS TO BUILD INFILL DEVELOPMENT IS
11:13:14AM EXCITING TO HAVE TEN TOWN HOMES IN THAT CORRIDOR
11:13:22AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:13:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:13:24AM I WANT TO SAY THAT I LOVE THE DESIGN OF THESE.
11:13:27AM IT REALLY FITS THE CHARACTER OF YBOR.
11:13:30AM SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE DESIGN GROUP TO NOT ONLY
11:13:35AM JUST PUTTING SOMETHING THERE BUT MAKING SURE IT FITS IN.
11:13:38AM I LOVE THE WAY COUPLE TWO STORIES AND A THREE STORY.
11:13:42AM A NICE BALANCE.
11:13:43AM I THINK IT WILL MELD IN VERY WELL.
11:13:47AM THRILLED TO SEE 80 AND BELOW AND 60 AND BELOW.
11:13:53AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: 50.
11:13:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL.
11:13:57AM SMALLER BUT LARGER PARCELS.
11:13:59AM WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE TEN FAMILIES INSTEAD OF
11:14:02AM THREE.
11:14:05AM I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS, AND I WANT TO SAY THANK
11:14:08AM YOU, AND I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
11:14:12AM I THINK WE SHOULD BE WATCHING IT QUICKLY TO REPLICATE IT
11:14:16AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
11:14:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
11:14:23AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:14:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TAMPA TECH ALUMNI, BUT THE -- I DON'T WANT
11:14:29AM TO SAY THE CONCERN, BUT I WOULD SAY THE GROWTH IN THE TRAIN
11:14:35AM MOVING.
11:14:35AM LOOKING AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER AND YOU LOOK AT THE NORTH,
11:14:45AM THE SOUTHWEST CORNER AND SOUTHEAST CORNER.
11:14:49AM WE HAVE PROBLEMS THERE SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CRA
11:14:58AM IS KIND OF INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT PER SE OF THAT AREA AND
11:15:05AM MAP IT OUT.
11:15:05AM A TIME WHEN WE WILL IF IN THERE AND START AGGRESSIVELY BEING
11:15:09AM THE CRA TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THAT AROUND AND PROVIDE FUNDS.
11:15:13AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO PUT TEN BRAND-NEW TOWNHOUSES.
11:15:18AM WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN.
11:15:19AM YOU KNOW.
11:15:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I GOT IT.
11:15:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW WHERE I AM GOING.
11:15:25AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YOU DON'T WANT TO INVEST $3.1 MILLION IN
11:15:29AM THIS CONNOR AND THE REST OF THE CORNER CONTINUES TO SEE
11:15:32AM DISINVESTMENT AND NOT A SIGNIFICANT INFLUX OF PUBLIC
11:15:35AM INVESTMENT.
11:15:36AM I HEAR YOU 100 PERCENT AND WHAT WE DO AS CRA.
11:15:39AM TIME GOING TO ASK FOR THE LATITUDE TO DO THAT WEARING MY CRA
11:15:48AM HAT.
11:15:48AM YOU WILL SEE US RAMP UP STRATEGICALLY TO PROTECT THE
11:15:56AM INVESTMENT WE ARE MAKING.
11:15:57AM A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THIS CORNER AND WE ARE CONTINUE
11:15:59AM TO WITH THE CRA.
11:16:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
11:16:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:16:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MR. GUDES SAY ONE TIME VERY VIBRANT AND A
11:16:13AM DRUG STORE AND A LITTLE SHOP AND A GARAGE ACROSS THE STREET.
11:16:17AM THE WEST SIDE.
11:16:18AM THE TWO EMPTIES ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH, AS I RECALL.
11:16:22AM THE PROBLEM IS AS YOU SAID IT, MR. GUDES, NOT GOING TO BE
11:16:26AM COMPATIBILITY WHEN YOU BUILD THESE NICE HOUSES TO LOOK TO
11:16:31AM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
11:16:32AM AND I AM BEING GENERAL WHEN I SAY NOT SO NICE.
11:16:34AM INCUMBENT UPON YOURSELVES I DO KNOW MIRACLE THAT YOU CAN DO.
11:16:45AM YOU ARE NOT COUNT CANNING ON MIRACLES BUT THANK YOU FOR WHAT
11:16:49AM YOU DO.
11:16:49AM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:16:52AM >> SECOND.
11:16:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:16:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU TALKED ACQUIRING THE LAND.
11:16:58AM JUST GOING TO THE DEVELOPERS OR GOING TO THE LAND TRUST?
11:17:01AM WE DON'T HAVE IT SET UP WHY YET.
11:17:03AM >> THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST WILL BE ESTABLISHED BY THE FALL
11:17:08AM OF THIS YEAR.
11:17:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: TO THE POINT THEY WERE MAKING, A PERFECT
11:17:18AM OPPORTUNITY FOR LAND TRUST.
11:17:20AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WHY HE IS.
11:17:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:17:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THEY ARE HERE?
11:17:32AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WHY HE IS.
11:17:33AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YOU WANT THEM TO COME UP?
11:17:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A MAJOR PROJECT.
11:17:40AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE HAVE YOUR HOUSING MANAGER WITH HER BOOT
11:17:44AM ON HOBBLING IN.
11:17:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A BOOT ON?
11:17:49AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
11:17:50AM THIS IS ALL THREE OF THEM, OF THE TEAM.
11:17:53AM >> A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY AND -- THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE
11:18:05AM BEEN PRAYING FOR FOR A LONG TIME.
11:18:07AM THIS COUNCIL.
11:18:08AM GIVE OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING.
11:18:10AM >> I WILL START.
11:18:11AM DONTAVIOUS PITTMAN.
11:18:14AM BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA.
11:18:15AM A GRADUATE OF TAMPA BAY TECH.
11:18:17AM I GRADUATED FROM FLORIDA A&M, FAMU WITH A BACHELOR OF
11:18:23AM ARCHITECTURE.
11:18:23AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST YOU.
11:18:26AM >> A GRADUATE DEGREE OF ARCHITECTURE.
11:18:30AM MY EXPERIENCE IS IN COMMERCIAL ARCHITECTURE.
11:18:33AM THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ALL THE WAY TO T.D. BANK.
11:18:36AM WORKED WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
11:18:38AM AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS MY PASSION BROUGHT ME BACK TO TAMPA
11:18:43AM ONCE I SAW THE GROWTH.
11:18:44AM WHEN I LEFT, IT WAS A LITTLE SLOWER, BUT WHEN I CAME BACK, I
11:18:47AM NOTICED THAT A LOT OF CHANGES GOING ON AND WANTED TO BE A
11:18:51AM PART OF IT.
11:18:51AM SO RECENTLY, WE HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY DOING DEVELOPMENT IN THE
11:18:56AM AREA.
11:18:56AM WE HAVE BEEN DOING A COUPLE OF MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS.
11:19:00AM THEY LOOK SIMILAR TO THIS PROJECT HERE.
11:19:02AM OUR PASSION IS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THAT AREA
11:19:06AM SINCE WE GREW UP IN EAST TAMPA AND SOUTH OF EAST TAMPA.
11:19:12AM WE WANT TO KEEP SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THERE.
11:19:15AM SO THAT IS KIND OF WHAT IS STRIVING US AT THIS POINT.
11:19:19AM >> WE RAN -- WENT TO TAMPA BAY TECH TOGETHER.
11:19:28AM GRADUATED AND ATTENDED FAMU.
11:19:31AM AND STUDIED ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION
11:19:37AM MANAGEMENT.
11:19:37AM AT THE AGE OF 25, I WAS ABLE TO ACQUIRE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES
11:19:41AM IN BROWARD COUNTY.
11:19:42AM AND JUST NOTICING WHAT WAS GOING ON AND THE DEVELOPMENT IN
11:19:47AM EAST TAMPA AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE JUST DECIDED TO SHIFT AND
11:19:50AM COME TOGETHER AND PUT ALL OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND DO
11:19:54AM SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE MASSIVE THAN WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO
11:19:57AM DO INDIVIDUALLY.
11:19:58AM SO THAT IS BASICALLY -- BASICALLY IT.
11:20:02AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE ARE APPRECIATIVE.
11:20:04AM THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR.
11:20:06AM TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO EAT.
11:20:08AM BECAUSE I AM ALWAYS HUNGRY MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS AN
11:20:12AM OPPORTUNITY.
11:20:12AM NOT THE BIG, BIG, GUYS.
11:20:16AM SOMETIMES THEY DON'T LET LITTLE GUYS EAT.
11:20:18AM THE INFILL.
11:20:19AM WE PREACHED ABOUT THAT AND STARTING TO GROW AND WE ARE
11:20:22AM STARTING TO GET THE PICTURE TO LET EVERYBODY HAVE AN
11:20:24AM OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE EVERYBODY -- WE CAN DO 100 UNITS, BUT
11:20:28AM THEY CAN DO 10.
11:20:29AM THIS IS A GOOD START.
11:20:30AM HOPEFULLY WITH THE NEW COUNCIL IT CONTINUES.
11:20:34AM WE WON'T REGRESS AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND I AM GLAD --
11:20:39AM TWO BROTHERS WHO LIVED THERE WHO UNDERSTAND IS IT AND ALWAYS
11:20:42AM SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU LIVED SOMEWHERE AND YOU HAVE THE
11:20:45AM EXPERIENCE, YOU UNDERSTAND THEM.
11:20:47AM AND YOUR PASSION IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY BUT IT IS ABOUT THE
11:20:55AM PEOPLE.
11:20:55AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:20:56AM I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS MONEY.
11:20:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GENTLEMEN, NO OFFENSE TO YOU BEEN A LOVELY
11:21:01AM LADY BEHIND YOU.
11:21:02AM I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT HER ROLE IN ALL THIS WAS.
11:21:05AM >>KAYON HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING, KAYON HENDERSON, HOUSING
11:21:09AM AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
11:21:11AM WE MET -- ACTUALLY A THIRD PERSON WHO IS MISSING PART OF THE
11:21:14AM GROUP.
11:21:14AM AND I THINK WE MET THEM.
11:21:15AM THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THEIR OWN
11:21:19AM THROUGH SOME DEVELOPMENT INTERESTS, EXPLAINING WHAT WE DO.
11:21:23AM FOR DEVELOPERS WHO OTHERWISE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO BUSINESS
11:21:30AM WITH THE CITY.
11:21:31AM WE HAD AN OPEN RFP TO ALLOW DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS TO APPLY
11:21:36AM AND ABLE TO LOOK AND GO THROUGH THE PROJECT AND PROPOSALS
11:21:39AM INSTEAD OF HAVING IT TO BE MORE OF AN EXCLUSIVE PROJECT
11:21:43AM AND RFP.
11:21:44AM MORE EXCLUSIVE WORKING TO WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE
11:21:48AM TRYING TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
11:21:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:21:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY TO BELABOR THE POINT AND COUNCILMAN
11:21:59AM GUDES HAS BEEN A BIG LEADER ON THIS THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
11:22:02AM I WANT TO THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR STEPPING UP.
11:22:05AM EXCITING YOU ARE DOING THE SMALL INFILL, THE DESIGN, THE
11:22:09AM SENSITIVITY OF THE COMMUNITY.
11:22:10AM WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR MINORITY AND BLACK -- ESPECIALLY
11:22:13AM BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES AND IT IS GREAT THAT YOU ARE FROM THE
11:22:16AM COMMUNITY, SO YOU UNDERSTAND IT.
11:22:20AM THANK YOU.
11:22:20AM TIPS OR IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE TO HELP US TO DO THIS BETTER AND
11:22:26AM PARTNERING FOR OTHER BUSINESSES.
11:22:27AM THANK YOU TO KAYON AND NICOLE AND THE STAFF FOR TAKING THE
11:22:30AM INITIATIVE ON THIS TOO.
11:22:31AM SOUNDS GREAT.
11:22:32AM GREAT JOB, EVERYBODY.
11:22:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:22:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:22:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:22:38AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:22:40AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:22:42AM ANY OBJECTION?
11:22:45AM THE MOTION PASSES.
11:22:47AM >> THANK YOU.
11:22:47AM [APPLAUSE]
11:22:52AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 72, FILE NUMBER CM 21-71670.
11:22:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
11:23:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:23:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY, I AM FINDING THE REPORT HERE.
11:23:09AM AND I DIDN'T REQUEST ANYBODY TO BE HERE FOR THIS.
11:23:13AM THE REPORT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
11:23:16AM IT SAYS HERE THAT THE -- THAT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS
11:23:23AM PARTNERED WITH A CRISIS CENTER AGREED TO APPLY FOR FUNDING
11:23:26AM THROUGH THE SOCIAL AND ARTS FUNDS TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY
11:23:31AM MONITOR ASSISTANCE FOR CRIME VICTIMS.
11:23:34AM WHAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO AND WITH THE WONDERFUL HELP OF
11:23:38AM CITY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO SEE THAT THE CITY CAN
11:23:40AM FUND SOME SORT OF A PROGRAM THAT HELPS FILL THE GAP, I GUESS
11:23:45AM IF YOU WILL, FROM VICTIMS OF CRIME HERE IN THE CITY OF
11:23:48AM TAMPA.
11:23:48AM IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT -- COMING FORWARD AND I ALWAYS
11:23:52AM LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEP MY EYE ON THINGS AND I DO THAT
11:23:57AM BY HAVING IT COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
11:23:58AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, IF I MAY, THIS ISSUE OF
11:24:02AM VICTIMS OF CRIME ASSISTANCE FUND TO COME BACK US TO IN JUNE,
11:24:09AM FIRST WEEK -- LET'S DO -- SECOND WEEK IN JULY, THAT IS
11:24:12AM AVAILABLE -- THERE YOU GO, JULY 13 FOR CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK
11:24:16AM AT WORKING THROUGH THE -- THROUGH THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WERE
11:24:21AM NOTED IN THIS MEMO AND ASSISTING ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS NOT
11:24:27AM SOLELY THIS BUT RISE UP FOR PEACE AND OTHER VICTIMS' RIGHTS
11:24:32AM ORGANIZATIONS.
11:24:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:24:35AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:24:38AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:24:40AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:24:42AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:24:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:24:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 73 HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO
11:24:50AM OCTOBER 5.
11:24:50AM AGENDA ITEM 74, FILE NUMBER CM 22-77567.
11:24:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
11:25:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:25:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: ME AGAIN.
11:25:03AM UP SAW THE MEMO AND SPOKE WITH CHIEF OF STAFF JOHN BENNETT.
11:25:07AM IT SEEMS TO BE GOING FORWARD.
11:25:08AM WE HAVE THE FUNDS IN THE BUDGET AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT
11:25:12AM GOES FORWARD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE A SIX-FIGURE FUND OF $1,000
11:25:21AM OF PAID INTERNSHIPS $15 FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WITHIN
11:25:26AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:25:27AM TALK ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER AND
11:25:32AM PEPIN.
11:25:33AM MY BROTHER IS A CLIENT AT THE EAST HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
11:25:35AM FACILITY.
11:25:36AM THEY DO WONDERFUL WORK.
11:25:37AM AND BUT WHAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE OF THIS IS TO HAVE SPECIFIC
11:25:41AM DEPARTMENTS TO HAVE PAID INTERNS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
11:25:45AM BE FUNDED AS SIX FIGURES.
11:25:47AM THIS IS GREAT AND LOOKS LIKE IT IS GOING FORWARD.
11:25:50AM SO, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO, IF I MAY HAVE THIS COME FORWARD.
11:25:54AM LET'S SAY THE FIRST WEEK IN JUNE.
11:25:57AM FOR STATUS UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AT.
11:26:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
11:26:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:26:09AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:26:11AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:26:13AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:26:14AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:26:15AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. VIERA.
11:26:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:26:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I HEARD YOU SAY POSSIBLY PUT THIS IN THE
11:26:22AM BUDGET.
11:26:22AM IS THAT WILL AS FAR AS THE POLICE BUDGET OR THE GENERAL FUND
11:26:26AM BUDGET, DO YOU KNOW?
11:26:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU ARE ASKING OF THE VICTIMS OF CRIME ISSUE?
11:26:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: RIGHT.
11:26:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, THAT WAS -- MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WITH AS
11:26:34AM RECEIVED AND SECURED THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WE PASSED IN
11:26:37AM SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
11:26:38AM WHERE IT CAME FROM, I DON'T KNOW.
11:26:39AM SO, YEAH, IT IS APPLIES TO THAT, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:26:43AM I AM NOT SURE WHAT BUCKET IT COMES FROM SO TO SPEAK.
11:26:46AM I AM NOT SURE TO BE HONEST.
11:26:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 75, CM 22-79132.
11:26:57AM MR. BHIDE.
11:26:59AM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, COUNCIL.
11:27:02AM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
11:27:05AM THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP IN THE ORIGINAL MOTION MADE BY
11:27:08AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:27:09AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO REGARDING TRAFFIC AND ROAD
11:27:15AM CLOSURES RELATIVE TO SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA,
11:27:19AM PARTICULARLY SOUTH DOWNTOWN.
11:27:21AM A MEMO HAS BEEN UPDATED RELATIVE TO THE PREVIOUS MEMO THAT
11:27:27AM WAS SUBMITTED.
11:27:28AM AND OUTLINES SOME CONSIDERATIONS AND ACTIONS THAT WILL BE
11:27:36AM IMPLEMENTED BY LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER, JUST IN TIME FOR
11:27:41AM THE NEXT SPECIAL EVENT SEASON.
11:27:43AM OF COURSE WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS ALL YEAR ROUND.
11:27:46AM WE HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS AND
11:27:51AM BUILDING THE ARENA.
11:27:52AM SVB AND OTHER TPD CERTAINLY.
11:27:58AM AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED REACTIONS OF WHICH THAT ARE IMMEDIATE
11:28:04AM BY LATE SPRING.
11:28:05AM AND ONE IS ONGOING.
11:28:07AM SO IS THE TWO THAT WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS AFTER LISTENING
11:28:13AM TO COUNCIL, THE CONCERNS, HAVING COORDINATED WITH THE
11:28:18AM COMMUNITY AS WELL IN RECENT MONTHS.
11:28:21AM ONE IS TO LOOK AT RIDE SHARE AND FIND MORE AND CONVENIENT
11:28:28AM LOCATIONS FOR RIDE SHARE, PICK-UP AND DROP-OFF ON THE EAST
11:28:33AM SIDE OF DOWNTOWN.
11:28:34AM CURRENTLY MOST HAPPENED IN THE WEST SIDE OFF OF FLAT BRIDGE
11:28:39AM ON ASHLEY DRIVE.
11:28:40AM THE OTHER ACTION IS THE -- TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR TRAFFIC
11:28:47AM CONTROL PLAN.
11:28:47AM AND THIS INCLUDES GOING BARRICADES.
11:28:51AM AND WE WILL ELIMINATE A LOT OF THAT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
11:28:56AM MORGAN STREET DURING ARENA EVENTS AND MODIFIED TIMING SIGNAL
11:29:01AM TRAVEL PLANS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AS WE SPEAK AND WE FOCUS ON
11:29:06AM ENSURING THAT ANY INBOUND OR OUTBOUND PATTERNS, PARTICULARLY
11:29:13AM INBOUND, DO NOT IMPEDE TRAFFIC FLOW AND EMPLOYEES AND
11:29:17AM RESIDENTS OF DOWNTOWN AS THEY ARE HEADED OUT AT THE END OF
11:29:20AM THE DAY.
11:29:20AM SO WITH THAT SAID, I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:29:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:29:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: VIK, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AND HANGING
11:29:32AM AROUND TO DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE BIT.
11:29:35AM EVEN THOUGH THE PRESENTATION WASN'T VERY LONG, I AM SURE IT
11:29:38AM WAS GREAT NEWS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND AROUND DOWNTOWN OR
11:29:40AM PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH DOWNTOWN.
11:29:42AM I THINK THAT THE DOWNTOWN PLAN -- TRAFFIC PLAN HADN'T BEEN
11:29:46AM UPDATED IN 10 FOR 20 YEARS.
11:29:48AM SINCE THEN, DOWNTOWN HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
11:29:51AM ESPECIALLY IN AND AROUND THE AREA THAT SVP HAVE DEVELOPED.
11:29:57AM THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE MOVING THROUGH THERE CONSTANTLY AND
11:30:00AM MULTIPLE EVENTS.
11:30:01AM LAST WEEKEND, THERE WERE FIVE EVENTS AT THE SAME TIME SO
11:30:07AM THERE ARE CONCERN.
11:30:07AM WE AS WE ARE LEAVING CITY COUNCIL AT NIGHT WITH AN EVENT, WE
11:30:10AM CAN'T LEAVE CITY HALL PAUSE ALL THE ROADS ARE SHUT DOWN AND
11:30:13AM BARRIERS ARE UP.
11:30:14AM SO REMOVING BARRIERS, CHANGING THE TIMING WILL ALL HELP IT.
11:30:19AM WE CAN'T.
11:30:20AM WE HAVE A MORE MODERN DOWNTOWN.
11:30:23AM WE CAN'T SHUT IT DOWN BECAUSE OF ONE OR TWO EVENTS.
11:30:26AM THE ONLY OTHER THING I WILL ASK AND I SAID THIS IN AN
11:30:31AM E-MAIL.
11:30:31AM PLEASE TALK TO THE HARBOUR ISLAND FOLKS.
11:30:34AM THEY ARE VERY FRUSTRATED THEY CAN'T GET ON AND OFF.
11:30:37AM LAST WEEKEND, BECAUSE OF THE SHORTAGE -- OVERALL SHORTAGE OF
11:30:42AM POLICE OFFICERS, THEY COULDN'T -- THEY TRIED TO HIRE
11:30:45AM ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS TO HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC FLOW AS
11:30:49AM REFLECTS HARBOUR ISLAND AND THE POLICE WERE NOT ABLE TO HELP
11:30:53AM AND NICOLE AND OTHERS IN THE CITY HELPED DURING THAT
11:30:56AM SITUATION, BUT WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP THE
11:31:00AM TRAFFIC FLOW ON AND OFF.
11:31:02AM ONLY TWO NARROW WAYS TO GET ON AND OFF AND ALL OF THIS
11:31:06AM AROUND EFFECTS IT.
11:31:07AM AS IT CONTINUES TO GROW, IT WILL GET WORSE.
11:31:10AM ANY HELP WILL BE GREAT.
11:31:11AM I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS BACK -- SHOULD I BRING IT TOBACCO
11:31:15AM IN AUGUST OR OCTOBER?
11:31:17AM WHAT WOULD BE THE TIME YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REPORT ON THIS.
11:31:23AM >>VIK BHIDE: AUGUST WILL WORK VERY WELL BECAUSE BY THEN, WE
11:31:27AM WILL BE PREPARED.
11:31:27AM REALLY TO ADDRESS THE HARBOUR ISLAND CONCERN.
11:31:30AM WHICH HAVE REACHED OUT TO SVP WHO IS CONDUCTING FURTHER
11:31:35AM ANALYSIS AND STUDY AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO MOVE IN AND
11:31:40AM COMMUNICATE WITH THE HARBOUR ISLAND COMMUNITY.
11:31:42AM AS THE CITY, WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGE WITH HARBOUR ISLAND THIS
11:31:47AM YEAR.
11:31:47AM WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
11:31:50AM SHARED SOME RECOMMENDATIONS SPECIFIC TO THE FRANKLIN BRIDGE
11:31:55AM AND THE INTERSECTION OF WATER AND FRANKLIN AND FURTHER
11:32:00AM DOWNSTREAM.
11:32:00AM IN ESSENCE, WE ARE LOOKING AT SIGNALIZING THOSE LOCATIONS OF
11:32:05AM TRAFFIC ON TO AND OFF OF IT HARBOUR ISLAND ON FRANKLIN
11:32:11AM BRIDGE.
11:32:12AM AND WHAT IS SIMILAR TO GEORGIA AND TAMPA BY LIGHTS AT
11:32:17AM INTERSECTIONS AND CROSSINGS.
11:32:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS BACK
11:32:22AM FOR AUGUST 24 FOR AN UPDATE.
11:32:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:32:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:32:26AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:32:28AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:32:32AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:32:33AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:32:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:32:36AM THANK YOU, VIK.
11:32:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT YOU ARE, MR. BHIDE.
11:32:41AM THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 76, FILE NUMBER CM 23-79914.
11:32:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, WHIT REMER, RESILIENCY OFFICER.
11:33:03AM I WAS EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOU ON BEHALF OF SEVERAL
11:33:07AM DEPARTMENTS AND WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.
11:33:08AM WE SHOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION -- IF YOU GUYS CAN BRING THAT
11:33:10AM UP.
11:33:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT IS THERE NOW.
11:33:13AM >> I AM JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUE MONICA PETRELLA, FOOD SERVICE
11:33:20AM COORDINATOR FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHO WILL PRESENT THE
11:33:22AM MAJORITY OF THIS PRESENTATION AND I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH A
11:33:26AM COUPLE OF ACTIONS SUBJECT TO THE CITY.
11:33:29AM IF WE CAN GO.
11:33:33AM AND THE NEXT SLIDE.
11:33:35AM I APPRECIATE YOU CONTINUING THIS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AS WE
11:33:38AM CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COUNTY.
11:33:40AM THERE IS THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
11:33:41AM THE PRESENTATION.
11:33:41AM THE REST OF THE OUTLINE.
11:33:43AM AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, MONICA, TAKE IT AWAY.
11:33:47AM >> THE FOOD COORDINATOR FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:33:50AM I WORK FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EXTENSION.
11:33:53AM TODAY, I WAS ASKED TO TALK ABOUT FOOD DESERTS IN THE CITY OF
11:33:58AM TAMPA THE.
11:33:59AM THE TERM "FOOD DESERT" IS NOT THE CORRECT TERM.
11:34:03AM AS CONTROVERSIAL TERM.
11:34:05AM TERM IS LOW INCOME LOW ACCESS, LILA.
11:34:09AM FOOD DESERTS.
11:34:11AM A QUICK PRESENTATION AND I AM IF HAPPY TO AT THAT YOU CAN TO
11:34:14AM YOU MORE DIN DEPTH BUT TODAY THROUGH THE BROAD STROKES.
11:34:18AM FOOD DESERT IS CONTROVERSIAL SOUNDS BARREN, EMPTY AND
11:34:23AM LIFELESS.
11:34:23AM THAT IS REALLY NO FAULT OF THOSE COMMUNITIES.
11:34:26AM THE TERM "LILA" IS A TECHNICAL ONE AND MEASURED MAYBE NOT AS
11:34:33AM BUZZER, I GUESS, BUT THE PREFERRED TERM.
11:34:38AM YOU SEE LILA THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION AND MORE TECHNICAL
11:34:41AM DOCUMENTS YOU WILL ALSO SEE THAT.
11:34:43AM I CAN'T SEE -- THAT PORT HAS A WHOLE LOT OF MORE INFORMATION
11:34:47AM IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE.
11:34:49AM SO ONE OF THE MOST USEFUL TOOLS WHEN TALKING OF LILA AND
11:34:56AM FOOD IS THE FOOD ACCESS RESEARCH ATLAS.
11:34:59AM THIS WAS MADE OUT OF THE 2008 FARM BILL.
11:35:03AM HAS A MAP THAT SHOWS TRENDS FROM 2015 AND 2019.
11:35:06AM AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW DIFFERENT TRENDS FOR THESE LILA
11:35:11AM COMMUNITIES CHANGE OVER TIME.
11:35:12AM IN THEORY, MORE DATA COMING AND UP TO CONGRESS TO FUND THESE
11:35:18AM AND MAINTAIN THE DATA AND MAPS.
11:35:20AM THE DAY AT THAT AT THE CENSUS TRACT LEVEL.
11:35:24AM DOWNLOADED FOR COUNTY AND STATE LEVEL AND MOST OF THE DAY AT
11:35:28AM THAT AT THAT CENSUS.
11:35:30AM AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL CONTENT OF LILA IS CONCERNED, THE WAY
11:35:34AM THEY MEASURE ACCESS TO A GROCERY STORE, THEY CALL "FOOD
11:35:38AM STORES" AND IT IS A -- AN OUTLET THAT HAS $2 MILLION OF
11:35:45AM ANNUAL SALES.
11:35:45AM AUTOMATICALLY THAT IS PRETTY MUCH REDUCING SMALL MICRO
11:35:50AM AUCTIONS.
11:35:51AM A LOT OF TIMES THAT IS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY HAVE A FULL
11:35:53AM SERVICE GROCERY STORE WITHOUT REALLY GETTING TO THAT $2
11:35:57AM MILLION IN SALES LINE.
11:35:58AM THAT IS THE BEST PRACTICE IN THE TECHNOLOGY.
11:36:01AM THAT UNDER $2 MILLION YOU MAY HAVE A SPECIALTY PRODUCT BUT
11:36:04AM NOT A FULL-RANGE GROCERY STORE, THE LILA MAP DOES NOT
11:36:10AM INCLUDE ANYTHING $2 MILLION.
11:36:11AM AND MOSTLY FOCUSES ON SUPERMARKETS.
11:36:14AM AND SUPER CENTER.
11:36:17AM WALMART SUPER CENTER, SO SUPERMARKETS, COSTCO.
11:36:22AM SUPERMARKETS, BIGGER WALMARTS AND GROCERY STORES IS WHAT WE
11:36:27AM SEE IN PUBLIX.
11:36:28AM AND LOW WELCOME AND ACCESS.
11:36:32AM IN ORDER TO QUALIFY YOU HAVE TO BE BOTH.
11:36:35AM LOW INCOME IS A POVERTY OF 20% OR GREATER IN THE CENSUS
11:36:38AM TRACT.
11:36:38AM THAT ENTIRE POPULATION IF OVER -- WELL, I GUESS THAT IS FOR
11:36:44AM THE LOW ACCESS.
11:36:44AM BUT THE LOW INCOME.
11:36:46AM SO THE -- THE MEDIAN INCOME IS 20% OVER THE POVERTY RATE.
11:36:51AM THAT IS WHAT IS DEEMED "LOW INCOME."
11:36:55AM THE NEXT PART IS LOW ACCESS.
11:36:56AM THAT MEANS THAT AT LEAST 500 PEOPLE.
11:36:59AM DEPENDING IF YOU ARE TALKING OF URBAN OR RURAL CENSUS TRACT
11:37:03AM OR 33% IS MORE THAN ONE MILE FOR A GROCERY STORE OR RURAL
11:37:08AM AREAS ACTUALLY TEN MILES BECAUSE OF DIFFERENCE IN THE
11:37:12AM COMMUNITIES AND HOW YOU GET AROUND.
11:37:14AM THE MAP WILL HAVE DIFFERENT RANGES, LILA AT HALF A MILE.
11:37:19AM REALLY, REALLY, URBAN AREAS.
11:37:22AM CHICAGO, NEW YORK CITY.
11:37:23AM IT IS -- IT IS -- IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO HAVE HALF A MILE
11:37:27AM VERSUS MAYBE -- AND THIS MID-SIZED CITIES, HALF MILE.
11:37:32AM IN ORDER TO BE DEEMED LILA, YOU HAVE TO HAVE BOTH
11:37:36AM QUALIFICATIONS.
11:37:37AM UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA A DECENT AMOUNT
11:37:40AM OF CENSUS TRACTS DEEMED AT LILA.
11:37:44AM DIGGING INTO THE DATA, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE
11:37:47AM DISCREPANCIES.
11:37:48AM FOR EXAMPLE, YOU SAY I KNOW ON THE CORNER THERE IS A PLACE
11:37:52AM TO GO BUY PRODUCE.
11:37:53AM ONCE AGAIN UNDER THAT $2 MILLION IN SALES.
11:37:56AM A FULL-RANGE GROCERY STORE OR A SPECIALTY PRODUCT OF JUST
11:38:00AM MEAT, JUST DAIRY, JUST PRODUCE.
11:38:02AM SO THIS MAP IS A VERY BRUTALLY UGLY MAP.
11:38:06AM A MAP THAT I CREATED A LONG TIME AGO TO KIND OF START THE
11:38:11AM CONVERSATION.
11:38:11AM WE ARE WORKING ON OBVIOUSLY MAKING IT A LITTLE MORE
11:38:14AM BEAUTIFUL, BUT ULTIMATELY ALL OF THE DARK WHY HE WILL LOW
11:38:17AM CENSUS TRACTS.
11:38:18AM THOSE ARE TECHNICALLY LILA AT A HALF MILE.
11:38:22AM THIS IS NOT A MILE BUT THE LILA TRACTS ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL
11:38:27AM THE HALF MILE OR THE MILE.
11:38:29AM WHEN YOU SEE IT.
11:38:30AM ALL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA QUALIFY AS LILA.
11:38:35AM THE ANSWER, SADLY, YES.
11:38:37AM MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THE CITY.
11:38:40AM ONE IN FIVE RESIDENTS ARE FOOD INSECURE.
11:38:44AM A LOT OF PEOPLE.
11:38:44AM FOOD INSECURITY IS MORE THAN JUST ACCESS.
11:38:48AM THIS IS KIND OF THE REAL PART.
11:38:49AM IN TEN YEARS FROM NOW IF WE WANT TO SAY WE CONTRIBUTED
11:38:53AM POSITIVELY TO FOOD SECURITY.
11:38:54AM NOT JUST A MATTER OF PUTTING GROCERIES STORE.
11:38:57AM BUT ALSO A MATTER OF BEING AFFORDABLE.
11:38:59AM SOME IF YOU HAVE A WHOLE FOODS IN EAST TAMPA, THAT MAY NOT
11:39:03AM BE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL OPTION.
11:39:05AM IT HAS TO IT BE RELIABLE.
11:39:08AM FARMER'S MARKET.
11:39:10AM ONCE A WEEK.
11:39:10AM NOT IN THE RAIN.
11:39:11AM ONLY IN THE SUMMERTIME.
11:39:14AM NOT NECESSARILY RELIABLE AND YOU CAN'T COUNT THAT IF YOU ARE
11:39:18AM FAMILY PLANNING AND PLANNING WHY YOU ARE PRODUCE AND
11:39:21AM GROCERIES.
11:39:21AM CULTURALLY APPROPRIATE.
11:39:24AM SOMETHING THAT FEED TAMPA BAY TALKED ABOUT RECENTLY.
11:39:28AM A LOT OF TIME THAT THE FOOD THAT RESIDENTS ARE RECEIVING
11:39:30AM THROUGH THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS DON'T FIT THEIR CULTURAL
11:39:33AM NEEDS AND, THEREFORE, THEY DON'T GET CONSUMED.
11:39:35AM SO ONCE AGAIN, IT IS NOT JUST A MATTER OF PHYSICAL ACCESS
11:39:40AM JUST ALL OF THESE THINGS KIND OF COMBINED TOGETHER.
11:39:42AM THE MAP THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER IN THE U.S.
11:39:45AM THE LILA MAP DOES NOT REFLECT ALL THESE THINGS.
11:39:49AM THE LILA MAP, IS THERE PHYSICALLY GROSS VIS FOR.
11:39:55AM APPLICABLE SOLUTIONS.
11:39:57AM EACH OF THESE THINGS HAVE A COMMUNITY EFFORT THAT CAN WORK
11:40:03AM TOWARD ACCOMPLISHING BETTER AVAILABILITY.
11:40:06AM BETTER AFFORDABILITY AND CULTURAL APPROPRIATE TOO.
11:40:10AM LIKE I ST. PATRICK, I AM HAPPY TO TALK TO ALL OF YOU OF MORE
11:40:14AM DEPTH.
11:40:15AM AND THAT WOULD BE AN ENTIRE WORKSHOP AND TODAY WE WILL KIND
11:40:18AM OF BREEZE THROUGH.
11:40:19AM BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT -- OH -- OKAY.
11:40:24AM THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
11:40:26AM I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF BEING THE FOOD SYSTEM COORDINATOR FOR
11:40:29AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:40:29AM I WORK WITHIN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EXTENSION KNOWN FOR PUBLIC
11:40:34AM SERVICE, RESOURCE EDUCATION EDUCATION.
11:40:38AM WELL KNOWN IT AGRICULTURE COMMUNITIES, LESS WELL KNOWN IN
11:40:42AM URBAN AREAS.
11:40:42AM AS THE COUNTY AND CITY CHANGES AND EXTENSION KIND OF
11:40:45AM MODERNIZES, OUR SERVICES ARE RELATED MORE TO EDUCATION ON
11:40:50AM EXPANDING WHY YOU ARE SNAP DOLLARS, HOW TO MAKE HEALTHY
11:40:53AM MEALS.
11:40:54AM HOW TO GROW YOUR OWN FOOD.
11:40:55AM MY JOB IS TO STRING IT TOGETHER FOR A FOOD SYSTEM CALLED
11:41:01AM HOME-GROWN HILLSBOROUGH.
11:41:03AM I AM DULY GOING TO PUT THIS ON THE ELMO, I GUESS.
11:41:07AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE PRESENTATION, BUT ST.
11:41:17AM YOU.
11:41:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ON OUR ELMOS, ON OUR SCREENS.
11:41:21AM >> WHAT WE ARE STARTING TO DO.
11:41:23AM STARTING TO DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND ASK PEOPLE TO SIGN
11:41:27AM UP FOR A NEWS LETTER.
11:41:28AM THE NEXT STEP TO ACTIVATE RESIDENTS, COMMUNITY GROUPS, TO
11:41:32AM MAKE PLANS TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE OTHER LILA ASPECTS.
11:41:36AM THE FOOD SYSTEM IS MORE THAN JUST PHYSICAL ACCESS IN URBAN
11:41:40AM COMMUNITIES OR RURAL COMMUNITIES.
11:41:42AM PRODUCTION, MARKETING, DISTRIBUTION, WASTE DISPOSAL.
11:41:46AM ALL THOSE THINGS WILL BE HOUSED TOGETHER UNDER TH
11:41:49AM HOME-GROWN HILLSBOROUGH INITIATIVE.
11:41:51AM AS FAR AS IT RELATES TODAY, ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT YOU,
11:41:55AM AS CITY COUNCIL, CAN DO IS DECIDE TO SUPPORT HOMEGROWN
11:42:01AM HILLSBOROUGH BY ALLOCATING A STAFF MEMBER AND COMMITTING TO
11:42:04AM BEING PART OF THIS COUNTYWIDE EFFORT.
11:42:06AM AS WE KIND OF GIANTS OFF THE GROUNDS, HOPEFULLY LAUNCHING
11:42:11AM NEXT MONTH, YOU WILL SEE MORE MEDIA.
11:42:14AM MORE STRUCTURAL ORGANIZATION AND THE CITY PLAYS A HUGE ROLE
11:42:20AM IN THAT.
11:42:20AM OTHER OPTIONS.
11:42:21AM ACCESS TO LAND IS WHAT PROMPTED THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION.
11:42:24AM PARCELS IN THE URBAN AREA FOR COMMUNITY GARDEN IS ONE OF A
11:42:29AM THOUSAND SOLUTIONS.
11:42:30AM PART OF THE MOSAIC OF SOLUTIONS.
11:42:35AM EXCITED TO SEE WHERE THE PARCELS.
11:42:38AM AND PARCELS OF LAND ARE FOR COMMUNITY GARDEN ALSO NOT BE
11:42:42AM SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY ASPECT OF IT AND SOMETHING
11:42:45AM THAT HOME-GROWN HILLSBOROUGH IS WORKING ON.
11:42:47AM OTHER TOOLS LIKE FINANCING.
11:42:50AM EARLIER TODAY WE LEARNED HOW THE CITY WAS HELPING TO FINANCE
11:42:54AM THE TAMPA PREP.
11:42:55AM THE CITY CAN DO SIMILAR THINGS FOR LARGER MILLION DOLLAR
11:43:00AM BONDS TO ULTIMATELY START FUNDING THE BIG INFRASTRUCTURE
11:43:04AM PROJECTS THAT WE WILL SEED.
11:43:05AM HOMEGROWN HILLSBOROUGH IS THE NAME OF THE FOOD SYSTEM
11:43:09AM PROGRAM AND HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL BE AN ACTIVE PARTNER.
11:43:12AM WE HOPE ALL THIS GIVE SOME GUIDANCE TO SUPPORT THIS AND TO
11:43:17AM SAY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF IT.
11:43:20AM AS OF NOW WE HAVE OVER 400 STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE SIGNED UP
11:43:23AM TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY INTERVIEWS.
11:43:25AM THEY WILL LAST THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
11:43:27AM FOUR PART-TIME INTERNS GOING OUT AND STUDIES THE INTERVIEWS
11:43:31AM WITH CHARGES, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, TRADITIONAL FOOD SERVICE
11:43:39AM PROPONENTS AND NEXT YEAR APPLICATION PLAN, COMMUNITY CENSUS,
11:43:42AM PRIORITIZATION AND EVENTUALLY UTILIZATION.
11:43:48AM THAT IS MY PRESENTATION.
11:43:49AM I KNOW IT IS A BUNCH OF INFORMATION.
11:43:51AM YOU GUYS CAN HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS AS OR AS LITTLE AS YOU
11:43:56AM NEED.
11:43:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE WE GO INTO QUESTIONS.
11:43:58AM HOW WILL THE PUBLIC GET THE POWERPOINT.
11:44:00AM I IMAGINE -- IS THIS NOT PUBLISHED -- WE CAN SEND IT OUT.
11:44:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION I AM ASKING.
11:44:07AM HOW THIS ACCOUNT PUBLIC FIND IT FROM YOU?
11:44:10AM >> THE WHOLE PRESENTATION, I THINK THAT WITT PROBABLY HAS THE
11:44:15AM WHOLE THING.
11:44:15AM MY PORTION I CAN SEND TO WHOEVER NEEDS IT GET IT
11:44:20AM DISSEMINATED.
11:44:20AM THEY CAN E-MAIL ME.
11:44:21AM THEY CAN CALL ME.
11:44:22AM I CAN PUT IT ON A WEB SITE.
11:44:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:44:26AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
11:44:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS ON SIRE IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO THROUGH
11:44:31AM IT.
11:44:31AM GO TO CITY COUNCIL AGENDAS.
11:44:32AM PART OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
11:44:34AM CLICK ON IT.
11:44:34AM AND THIS POWERPOINT WILL COME OUT WHICH IS WHAT I READ
11:44:39AM BEFORE THIS.
11:44:40AM SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU COMING TODAY.
11:44:43AM I HAD NO IDEA THIS IS WHAT YOUR DAY JOB WAS.
11:44:46AM I KNOW YOU FROM THE FARM.
11:44:47AM FROM MEACHAM URBAN FARM WHICH IS A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE OF A
11:44:52AM COMMUNITY FARM RIGHT IN URBAN -- THE URBAN OASIS THAT IS THE
11:45:00AM CITY OF TAMPA.
11:45:01AM THIS ACTUALLY IS INCREDIBLY SAW SOME TOO BECAUSE GOES BACK
11:45:04AM TO ANY ACTUAL DAY JOB, WORKING ON FOOD SECURITY IN -- IN
11:45:12AM COUNTRIES -- INTERNATIONALLY THAT ABSOLUTELY HAVE THIS TYPE
11:45:17AM OF WORK.
11:45:17AM I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING FROM SEED PRESERVATION TO HOW WE
11:45:21AM STORE THE CROPS.
11:45:23AM HOW WE TAKE THEM TO MARKET AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHAT YOU
11:45:26AM WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE HOME-GROWN HILLSBOROUGH.
11:45:28AM HOW FOLKS CAN ACTUALLY MAKE AND THEN SELL PRODUCTS.
11:45:32AM THIS IS VERY EXCITING THAT WE ARE ALSO DOING THIS YEAR.
11:45:36AM AND I WOULD LOVE -- I DO KNOW THAT COMMUNITY GARDENS ARE
11:45:41AM WONDERFUL, BUT TAKE AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF WORK AND REALLY
11:45:47AM NEED SOMEONE IN THAT COMMUNITY TO OWN IT.
11:45:50AM >> SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY OWN IT.
11:45:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU REALLY HAVE TO HAVE THIS DESIRE TO MAKE
11:45:56AM THAT COMMUNITY GARDEN WORK.
11:45:57AM SO I AM HAPPY TO HEAR THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE -- A WAY THAT WE
11:46:03AM ARE PLANNING ON SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT, BUT ALSO,
11:46:06AM HOW DO WE GET RELIABLE FOOD SOURCES LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE
11:46:10AM ACTUAL GROCERY STORES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
11:46:12AM I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH
11:46:17AM YOU MORE ON THAT.
11:46:18AM >> GREAT.
11:46:18AM I WOULD LOVE THAT.
11:46:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:46:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION.
11:46:23AM >> THANK YOU.
11:46:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BUT IN REALITY, HOW CAN WE PUT THAT INTO
11:46:27AM PLAY?
11:46:27AM >> HOW CAN WE PUT IT INTO PLAY?
11:46:30AM OKAY.
11:46:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: LOOKING AT WHAT YOU HAVE HERE.
11:46:32AM COUNCILWOMAN MADE MENTION -- THE COMMUNITY GARDEN -- I LOVE
11:46:40AM THE IDEA OF THE COMMUNITY GARDEN.
11:46:41AM AND YOU ARE GOING TO GET A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE WHO WILL
11:46:45AM GET INVOLVED IN THAT CONCEPT.
11:46:48AM PEOPLE ARE FAST TO GO NOW ROAR FOR ME I BELIEVE THAT CHARITY
11:46:51AM STARTS AT HOME.
11:46:52AM AND GOVERNMENT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY.
11:46:54AM AND WE KNOW WE HAVE A FOOD DESERT OR LOW-INCOME AREAS, THEN
11:47:02AM WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT?
11:47:04AM I AM A SOLUTION PERSON.
11:47:05AM WHY DON'T WE HAVE OUR OWN GROCERY STORE?
11:47:08AM WHY DON'T WE HAVE OUR OWN COUNTY GROCERY STORE AND CITY
11:47:11AM GROCERY STORE.
11:47:12AM >> YEAH.
11:47:13AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT HAVE SOME PRICES THAT PEOPLE CAN
11:47:16AM AFFORD -- I MEAN, TO ME, IT IS SIMPLE.
11:47:19AM >> I AM WITH YOU.
11:47:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KIND OF WANT TO DO IT AND HAVE
11:47:22AM LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE TO SAY THIS IS ANOTHER AVENUE.
11:47:24AM GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO IT ALL, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE CERTAIN
11:47:28AM ISSUES, GOVERNMENT HAS TO DO IT.
11:47:30AM WE ARE A CAPITALIST SOCIETY.
11:47:32AM I GET IT, BUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE THROW AWAY AND SPEND ON
11:47:37AM THINGS, WE HAVE OUR OWN COUNTY STORE OR GOVERNMENT STORE
11:47:40AM THAT PEOPLE COULD GO AND GET GOOD FRESH FRUIT FROM THESE
11:47:45AM GARDENS, WHAT HAVE YOU.
11:47:47AM NOW WE ARE CREATING JOBS.
11:47:50AM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I HOPE PEOPLE WILL WANT TO PUT ON
11:47:52AM THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT AND IMPLEMENT.
11:47:54AM >> YEAH, SO THE GOOD NEWS THAT THEY DO.
11:47:56AM I HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION SINCE 2019.
11:47:59AM MY JOB HAS JUST BEFORE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, KIND OF
11:48:03AM UNDERSTANDING WHERE PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS KIND OF
11:48:06AM STUFF, WHAT PEOPLE'S NEEDS ARE, AND SO, I KIND OF STAY
11:48:11AM TUNED.
11:48:11AM I KNOW IT IS NOT LIKE A RAZZLE DAZZLE ANSWER, BUT IDEALLY BY
11:48:15AM THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR, WE WILL HAVE HUNDREDS OF
11:48:18AM ORGANIZATIONS, RESIDENTS, ALL ENGAGED.
11:48:20AM THE HOMEGROWN HILLSBOROUGH PROGRAM IS MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE
11:48:24AM WHAT I WAS ABLE TO DO HERE.
11:48:26AM AS FAR AS COUNTY-OWNED AND CITY-OWNED GROCERY STORES.
11:48:30AM SEVERAL FLORIDA MUNICIPALITIES HAD TO OPEN THEIR OWN GROCERY
11:48:34AM STORE TO PROVIDE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
11:48:36AM IT CAN BE DONE.
11:48:37AM FINANCING TOOLS THAT THE CITY CAN HELP LEVERAGE TO
11:48:41AM ACCOMPLISH NOSE THINGS.
11:48:41AM A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITIES ARE ALREADY ORGANIZING.
11:48:44AM I AM SURE YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR AROUND THESE TOPICS.
11:48:46AM I AM HONORED TO SAY I HAVE THAT, LIKE, A SPECIALTY THAT IS
11:48:52AM -- MY EXPERTISE IS THIS, SO I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
11:48:56AM TALK ABOUT HOW TO BRING IT INTO REALITY.
11:48:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM GLAD YOU SAID THAT.
11:49:01AM BECAUSE I KNOW I AIN'T CRAZY.
11:49:03AM THERE IS A WAY TO GET IT DONE.
11:49:05AM BUT YOU GOT TO WANT TO GET IT DONE.
11:49:07AM >> I WANT TO GET IT DONE.
11:49:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HELP
11:49:11AM PEOPLE.
11:49:11AM >> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET IT DONE.
11:49:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND YOUNG LADY AND I RESPECT WHAT
11:49:17AM YOU ARE SAYING.
11:49:18AM WE AIN'T GOT IT DONE.
11:49:20AM >> HERE I AM.
11:49:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU ARE HERE AND ONE PERSON.
11:49:27AM A DIFFERENT KIND OF BUREAUCRACY.
11:49:29AM GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO TELL US ABOUT THIS, AGAIN, FOR ME.
11:49:35AM IF IT COMES TO A COUNTY GROCERY STORE OR CITY-RUN GROCERY
11:49:39AM STORE PEOPLE CAN FLOCK TO LIKE A WALMART.
11:49:43AM I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT.
11:49:44AM >> I THINK MR. REMER'S PRESENTATION WILL TALK OF THE
11:49:51AM ASPECTS.
11:49:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:49:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
11:49:54AM IT IS EYE OPENING WHEN YOU CALL THEM LILA.
11:49:58AM >> LILA, LILA.
11:50:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE LITTLE QUADRANT IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:50:06AM SOUTH OF GANDY.
11:50:07AM THIS IS JUST -- THE MAP BUT, YOU KNOW, PARTS OF -- LIKE
11:50:13AM WHERE I LIVE.
11:50:13AM I AM AT HILLSBOROUGH AND HABANA.
11:50:15AM I CAN WALK TO PUBLIX.
11:50:17AM I CAN WALK TO DOLLAR TREE.
11:50:19AM IF I CAN WALK A LITTLE BIT MORE I CAN GET TO SAV-A-LOT.
11:50:24AM IN BETWEEN FAST FOOD PLACES.
11:50:26AM I HAVE ACCESS TO FRESH FOOD.
11:50:28AM IF YOU GO TO HILLSBOROUGH.
11:50:30AM AND YOU GO EAST OF THE INTERSTATE, THERE IS A WALMART AND
11:50:37AM THE SAND WALL WHICH IS VERY POPULAR.
11:50:39AM BEYOND THAT YOU ARE LIMITED.
11:50:42AM MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. AND EAST, IT DRIES OUT.
11:50:45AM A FRIEND OF MINE WAS HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO VISIT FROM
11:50:49AM OUT OF TOWN AND WE WENT TO THE CITY LIMITS GOING EAST.
11:50:52AM I SAID SEE HOW EVERYTHING CHANGES GOING EAST.
11:50:55AM WINN-DIXIE IN NEBRASKA.
11:50:57AM BUT BEYOND THAT MLK DRIES OUT.
11:51:01AM SCHOOL BUS GOING EAST DRIES OUT.
11:51:05AM ACCESS TO PLACES.
11:51:06AM FOOD IS A BASIC NECESSITY.
11:51:08AM PEOPLE NEED ACCESS TO NOT JUST FOOD.
11:51:10AM YOU CAN EAT FAST FOOD, CONVENIENCE STORE FOOD, BUT YOU NEED
11:51:14AM HEALTHY, GOOD FOOD.
11:51:16AM THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO PROMOTE WITH THAT.
11:51:19AM ALSO I MADE THIS MOTION REGARDING IDENTIFYING THE FOOD
11:51:22AM DESERTS WHICH -- THE TERMINOLOGY IS DIFFERENT AS YOU
11:51:26AM MENTIONED.
11:51:26AM BUT THERE ARE SO MANY PLACES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHERE
11:51:29AM THERE IS NO ACCESS.
11:51:30AM I HOPE THAT MR. REMER, WHEN HE SPEAKS, WILL YOU BE
11:51:35AM IDENTIFYING THE PLOTS OF LAND THAT WE OWN THAT COULD BE
11:51:40AM ACTIVATED AS COMMUNITY GARDENS.
11:51:44AM YOU MENTIONED MEACHAM.
11:51:47AM A FRIEND OF MINE WAS THERE ALL THE TIME.
11:51:49AM COMMUNITY GARDENS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:51:52AM I VISITED IN 2010.
11:51:54AM YOU NEED THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
11:51:56AM THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT WILL BE THERE.
11:51:57AM PEOPLE WANT ACCESS TO HEALTHY AND AFFORDABLE FOOD BECAUSE
11:52:01AM THE COSTS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS WHEN PEOPLE GROW IT IN
11:52:05AM THAT FORM INSTEAD OF GOING TO A GROCER.
11:52:08AM PRICES ARE DIFFERENT.
11:52:10AM WALMART, PRICES ARE, YOU GO TO WHOLE FOODS OR FRESH MARKET.
11:52:14AM IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
11:52:16AM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
11:52:17AM HOWEVER, A BIG CITY, AND PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE TWO
11:52:22AM BUSES TO GET TO ANOTHER PART OF TOWN TO GET ACCESS TO, YOU
11:52:27AM KNOW, BASIC NECESSITIES.
11:52:29AM IT IS WRONG.
11:52:30AM UP HOPE WITH MR. REMER, WHEN HE MAKES HIS PRESENTATION HE
11:52:34AM SHOWS US IN THE CITY WHERE WE OWN VACANT PARCELS NOT BEING
11:52:38AM UTILIZED THAT WE CAN -- AND ACCESS AND ACTIVATE TO BUILD
11:52:45AM THESE COMMUNITY GARDENS.
11:52:46AM THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL.
11:52:48AM I SEE HOW THEY WORK AND WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THAT.
11:52:50AM I WILL WAIT FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
11:52:52AM >> GREAT.
11:52:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:52:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NOTICED A LOT OF THINGS AND ONE OF THE
11:52:58AM THINGS OFF THIS IS RECYCLING.
11:53:00AM AND JUST THE OTHER DAY -- I FORGET WHAT DAY IT WAS -- BUT I
11:53:04AM WAS WATCHING SOME PARTS OF A TV SHOW ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
11:53:08AM IT WAS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS FAR AWAY FROM ME -- I DON'T
11:53:13AM KNOW WHAT COUNTRY HE WAS IN.
11:53:14AM WHAT THEY ARE DOING GETTING PLASTIC FROM THE OCEAN AND
11:53:18AM EVERYWHERE AND RECYCLING THE PLASTIC INTO MAKING -- WHAT?
11:53:22AM CEMENT BLOCKS.
11:53:23AM CEMENT BLOCKS AND PUTTING -- SO MUCH PLASTIC IN IT.
11:53:27AM THE CEMENT BLOCK IS LIGHTER, JUST AS STRONG AND INHIBITS THE
11:53:32AM SUN FROM COMING IN.
11:53:33AM BECAUSE A NATURAL -- SO GETTING THE SAME THINGS THAT WE ARE
11:53:37AM THROWING AWAY AND, YOU ARE KNOW, WE ARE KILLING OURSELVES.
11:53:39AM THE OCEAN IS FULL OF SO MUCH PLASTIC BUT SOON ENOUGH NO
11:53:43AM FISH, NO NOTHING.
11:53:44AM WE ARE SHOWING ALL OF THAT.
11:53:46AM I DIDN'T HAVE SAY WATCHING THE HOPE SHOW, BUT IT WAS A
11:53:50AM EYE-OPENER ON WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS
11:53:52AM IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
11:53:56AM DOING SOMETHING THAT WAS INVIGORATING BECAUSE I NOT THE
11:54:00AM PLANT WE HAVE HERE REFERENCE TO ENERGY.
11:54:02AM A LOT OF PLASTIC THAT GOES THERE THAT HAS TO BE DISPOSED OF.
11:54:06AM ANOTHER AVENUE OF SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO GO IN BUSINESS AND
11:54:09AM GET THAT PLASTIC JOIN UP WITH SOMEBODY MAKING CEMENT BLOCKS
11:54:12AM AND DO THE SAME THING I SAW ON TELEVISION.
11:54:14AM I AM NOT SAYING I AM GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE I AM NOT, BUT
11:54:17AM SOMEONE ELSE CAN.
11:54:18AM THINGS THAT YOU LEARN LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING YOURSELF AND
11:54:22AM GIVING A BOOT UP TO MAKE SURE THINGS GET UP AND GET STARTED.
11:54:26AM YOU ARE RIGHT, THIS WAS GOING ON BEFORE 2010.
11:54:30AM SOUTH SEMINOLE MIGHT AND THROUGH THERE.
11:54:32AM REMEMBER WAY BACK 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO IT STARTED.
11:54:35AM BUT IT WAS STILL EMBRYO STAGES AND GOING A LITTLE BIT MORE
11:54:40AM AND WILL CONTINUE TO GROW MORE.
11:54:42AM YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT ONLY THE FOOD, IT IS ALSO EXERCISE.
11:54:46AM AND PROBLEM IS THAT WE EAT TOO MUCH FOOD DECENT EXERCISE TOO
11:54:51AM MUCH AND REASON IS A PROBLEM.
11:54:52AM A HEALTH PROBLEM.
11:54:56AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT STATION I WAS WATCHING.
11:54:58AM I WILL GO LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
11:54:59AM AND SOMETHING INVIGORATING TO MY MIND BECAUSE WE THROW OUT
11:55:04AM PLASTIC EVERYWHERE AND NOT USING BACK.
11:55:06AM WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ENVIRONMENT .
11:55:09AM THANK YOU FOR BEING AN EYE-OPENER AND A LIGHT IN THE SKY TO
11:55:14AM SAY THIS IS IT WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO.
11:55:16AM >> THANK YOU, IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE.
11:55:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:55:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A QUESTION AND POOR MR. MASSEY DIDN'T
11:55:23AM KNOW THIS WAS COMING.
11:55:24AM COUNCILMAN GUDES BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ON IF -- IF THERE
11:55:28AM ARE CERTAIN AREAS IN TOWN WHERE THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS NOT
11:55:33AM INVESTING IN GROCERIES AND GOVERNMENT COMING IN AND DOING,
11:55:38AM YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE A REVENUE
11:55:43AM LOSS BUT SUCH A NEEDED THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
11:55:45AM AND THIS -- IS THAT SOMETHING THE CRA IS HAVE ANY
11:55:49AM INVOLVEMENT IN WHATSOEVER?
11:55:51AM NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, SIR.
11:55:53AM I KNOW HE HAS --
11:55:58AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE AND
11:56:02AM THE PLAN.
11:56:02AM NOTHING THAT WILL SUPPORT US OPENING A GROCERY STORE THAT
11:56:06AM DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE CAN POSSIBLY AMEND THE PLAN.
11:56:08AM CRA BOARD HAS SUPPORTED COMMUNITY GARDENS IN MEACHAM, WEST
11:56:16AM TAMPA THE CITY MADE PARCELS TO NOT-FOR-PROFITS AND RELIGIOUS
11:56:22AM INSTITUTIONS FOR COMMUNITY GARDENS AND WE HAVE DONE THAT
11:56:25AM SORT OF THING.
11:56:26AM CRA IN EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN USED TO HELP A SIMPLE POLICY AND
11:56:31AM HELP PROVIDE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES FOR A PRIVATE GROCERY
11:56:36AM PROVIDER TO COME IN MORE THE AVENUE AND LEGALLY I WILL BE
11:56:40AM MORE COMFORTABLE TRYING TO PROVIDE THAT KIND OF SUPPORT.
11:56:43AM >> I GOT IT.
11:56:45AM SOMETHING THERE AND WHATNOT.
11:56:46AM IF COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS TO MAKE A MOTION FROM THE CITY
11:56:50AM LOOKING AT IT -- HE IS NOT HERE.
11:56:53AM BUT -- I MEAN WASN'T THERE.
11:56:56AM I WILL BE GLAD TO FOR THAT TO OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT
11:57:00AM IS A GREAT ENDEAVOR WHETHER CRA OR CITY.
11:57:03AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY NECESSARY.
11:57:05AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:57:07AM I WAS ASKING MR. MORRIS MASSEY ABOUT POTENTIALLY THE CRA
11:57:12AM LOOKING AT YOUR IDEA OF A GROCERY STORE AND SEEING WHETHER
11:57:16AM OR NOT IT WAS FEASIBLE.
11:57:17AM IF YOU WANT TO DO A MOTION FOR CITY COUNCIL FROM THE CITY'S
11:57:22AM PERSPECTIVE.
11:57:22AM WE WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT THAT.
11:57:24AM THANK YOU.
11:57:25AM APPRECIATE THAT.
11:57:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE TALKED ABOUT THAT SEVERAL TIMES WHEN I
11:57:30AM WAS ON THE CRA BOARD AND THE CURRENT C RAs.
11:57:34AM AND IT ALWAYS GETS SHIFTED SOME PLACE ELSE.
11:57:40AM UP DON'T KNOW WHY.
11:57:41AM GOVERNMENT ISN'T INVOLVED.
11:57:43AM BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK OF HOW CAN YOU ACTUALLY PARTNER WITH A
11:57:47AM NONPROFIT OR SOMEBODY ELSE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THESE
11:57:51AM THINGS.
11:57:51AM AND, AGAIN, I WORKED ON THE COMMUNITY GARDENS AND THEY ARE
11:57:56AM GOOD THINGS.
11:57:56AM DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT THEY WILL NOT SOLVE THE ISSUE THAT
11:58:00AM WE HAVE.
11:58:00AM I WILL BE CANDID WITH YOU.
11:58:02AM I AM A CANDID PERSON.
11:58:03AM PUBLIX AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLACES.
11:58:06AM I TOLD A LONG I'M AGO WHEN I COACHED BALL.
11:58:10AM WHEN YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
11:58:12AM PUBLIX BUILDS -- PEOPLE IN EAST TEXAS GO AND BUY PUBLIX
11:58:18AM CAKES.
11:58:18AM TAKE THEM TO THE SCHOOLS.
11:58:19AM PUBLIX WON'T COME TO THOSE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY SAY DO
11:58:24AM THEY DON'T HAVE A HIGH EDUCATIONAL LEVEL AND DON'T HAVE A
11:58:27AM DEGREE OR MATE TRICKS OR WHATEVER.
11:58:29AM THROW IN FAMILY DOLLARS WITH ALL THE RAMEN NOODLES IN THE
11:58:33AM COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING HOW DO WE FIND A PIECE OF
11:58:36AM PROPERTY THAT MAYBE CITY OWNED OR COUNTY OWNED.
11:58:41AM NOW YOU BUILD IT TO WHERE YOU CAN HAVE PRICES REASONABLE FOR
11:58:45AM THOSE PEOPLE TO COME.
11:58:46AM YOU HAVE YOUR COMMUNITY GARDEN TO SELL THOSE FRUITS THEY ARE
11:58:49AM MAKING AND LIKE YOU DO AT THE MARKET.
11:58:51AM GENERATING EMPLOYMENT.
11:58:53AM GENERATING COMMUNITIES.
11:58:55AM AND YOU ARE GIVING COMMUNITIES HEALTHY FOODS TO GIVE RID OF
11:59:01AM DIABETES WHICH I KNEW ALL ABOUT.
11:59:02AM HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE.
11:59:04AM THESE KIND OF THINGS.
11:59:06AM IF THERE IS A WAY, MR. VIERA, TO WHERE SOMEBODY WOULD LISTEN
11:59:10AM AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME PROPERTY AND GET SOME NONPROFITS
11:59:14AM TO ACTUALLY HAVE A MAJOR GROCERY STORE, MUNICIPAL GROCERY
11:59:19AM STORE, COUNTY GROCERY STORE.
11:59:23AM PEOPLE WILL COME IF YOU BUILD IT.
11:59:25AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: GETTING BACK TO THE CRA.
11:59:28AM TO PROVIDE PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CITY.
11:59:32AM NOT OPERATE A STORE.
11:59:33AM WHAT THE CRA CAN BE USED FOR IS TO HELP ASSEMBLE PROPERTY
11:59:37AM AND WORK WITH A NOT-FOR-PROFIT TO PROVIDE A LOW-COST GROCERY
11:59:42AM OR FOOD ALTERNATIVE LOCATION.
11:59:45AM I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY CAN LOOK AT DOING THOSE SORTS OF
11:59:49AM THINGS, BUT THE FOCUS OF THE CRA.
11:59:51AM THE CRA IS NOT SET UP TO RUN THE GROCERY STORES OR SOCIAL
11:59:56AM PROGRAMS.

11:59:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY, THERE'S A BIG GROCERY STORE
11:59:59AM CHAIN OUT OF ATLANTA.
12:00:00PM I TRIED TO CONTACT THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES TO SEE WOULD THEY
12:00:03PM COME DOWN TO THE SOUTH FLORIDA AREA.
12:00:07PM HERE IS A CHAIN OF STORES.
12:00:08PM YOU JUST HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT CHAIN THAT WILL COME AND
12:00:11PM THEY PARTNER, AGAIN, MR. MCCRAE IN REFERENCE TO THE CRA
12:00:16PM BOARD, AND SEE IF THEY CAN BRING THAT UP AGAIN.
12:00:19PM I WILL BE GONE, BUT I WON'T BE OUT OF THE PICTURE, BUT TO
12:00:22PM MAYBE BRING THAT UP TO SEE HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
12:00:24PM AND MR. MORRIS MASSEY IS RIGHT, A GROCERY STORE.
12:00:33PM >> AND I DO WANT TO QUICKLY RESPOND AND KIND OF PUT IT OUT
12:00:36PM THERE THAT NONPROFIT GROCERY STORES ARE NOT REALLY A THING,
12:00:40PM BUT COMMUNITY ON CO-OPS ARE, AND COMMUNITY ON CO-OPS ARE A
12:00:46PM WAY TO START GENERATING WEALTH IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS
12:00:48PM MAINTAINING LOCAL CONTROL.
12:00:50PM LOTS OF MUNICIPALITIES HAVE SUPPORTED CO-OPS, WHETHER THAT
12:00:55PM IS THROUGH TECHNICAL SUPPORT, PROVIDING LAND, YOU KNOW,
12:00:58PM HAVING A PLACE TO HOLD MEETINGS.

12:01:03PM THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS MUNICIPALITIES CAN SUPPORT GROCERY
12:01:06PM CO-OPS.
12:01:07PM THEY TAKE A WHILE TO GET STARTED BUT ONCE THEY GET STARTED
12:01:10PM THEIR ATTRITION RATE IS VERY, VERY WELL.
12:01:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU KNOW, B&B WAS AN INDEPENDENT, 40TH AND
12:01:16PM HILLSBOROUGH. WINN-DIXIE USED TO BE THERE BUT WINN-DIXIE
12:01:19PM SOLD OUT AND WENT DOWN THE STREET MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
12:01:23PM AND B&B WAS A THRIVING GROCERY STORE AT 40TH AND
12:01:27PM HILLSBOROUGH, BUT MR. DAVIS GOT TIRED AND SOLD TO THE OTHER
12:01:33PM FOLKS.
12:01:34PM WE TALK ABOUT CULTURE, AND DIDN'T SELL THE TYPE OF FOOD OF
12:01:39PM THAT GENERAL AREA, NOR UNDERSTOOD IT, AND FINALLY WENT --
12:01:44PM CAUGHT FIRE, LET'S SAY THAT.
12:01:46PM AND I DO THINK THE CULTURAL ASPECT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE
12:01:52PM RIGHT FOODS, LIKE PUBLIX, LIKE WALMART HAVE IN THOSE STORES,
12:01:56PM AND THEY WILL THRIVE, BECAUSE I USED TO GO ACROSS THE STREET
12:01:59PM AS A KID AND BUY GROCERIES, YOU KNOW, AS I WAS GROWING UP.
12:02:04PM SO YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE THE RIGHT CULTURE ASPECT.
12:02:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:02:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, DIFFERENT THINGS.
12:02:15PM NUMBER ONE, THIS IS THE KIND OF TOPIC THAT WE NEED TO PUT ON
12:02:19PM A WORKSHOP, BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE A LOT LONGER CONVERSATION
12:02:23PM ABOUT IT.
12:02:23PM I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PLANNING RETREAT FOR THE
12:02:31PM CRA COMING UP, AND YOU MAY WANT TO ATTEND AND WATCH AND IN

12:02:36PM PUBLIC COMMENT OR WHATEVER GET UP AND BE A CONTENT EXPERT.
12:02:42PM BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE OBVIOUSLY SHOULD LOOK AT
12:02:44PM MORE.
12:02:47PM I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE CRA OR THE CITY RUNNING GROCERY
12:02:52PM STORES.
12:02:54PM I HAVE BEEN IN GOVERNMENT-OWNED GROCERY STORIES IN A LOT OF
12:02:57PM COUNTRIES LIKE CUBA, AND THEY DON'T RUN VERY WELL, AND
12:03:01PM PEOPLE LEAVE COUNTRIES TO COME HERE TO GET AWAY FROM THAT.
12:03:05PM I THINK THAT WE HAVE A CONCEPT THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN
12:03:11PM PUSHING FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD
12:03:14PM COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, AND PEOPLE AROUND EAST TAMPA WHERE
12:03:20PM PEOPLE SHOULD GO BUT WE HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF BETA TEST
12:03:24PM IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND WEST TAMPA FOR DOING SOME PLANNING, BUT
12:03:27PM WE NEED TO DO THIS ON A LARGER SCALE.
12:03:29PM BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WORK THIS IN WITH PLANNING AND
12:03:33PM STEVEN VINCENT SHOULD BE INVOLVED, AND WE NEED TO THINK
12:03:35PM ABOUT WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT SHOULD BE,
12:03:39PM WHAT SHOULD BE THE NODE AND KIND OF HOW WE SHOULD PLAN THAT
12:03:42PM OUT.
12:03:42PM AND THEN WE SHOULD WORK WITH THE CRA TO EITHER BUILD AN ACRE
12:03:48PM BUILDING ON A CORNER, OR WE SHOULD WORK PARTNER WITH THE
12:03:53PM PRIVATE SECTOR OR PROFIT SECTOR, BUT IMAGINE A BUILDING THAT
12:03:57PM HAS A COUPLE SHOP FRONTS DOWNSTAIRS, MAYBE OFFICES ON THE
12:04:01PM SECOND FLOOR, AND MAYBE EVEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING UPSTAIRS.
12:04:04PM BUT THAT WOULD BE LIKE AN INVESTMENT TO START, INVESTMENTS

12:04:08PM ON THE CORNERS IN THESE PLACES.
12:04:12PM AND THEN JUST LIKE WITH A LOT OF CRAS INVESTING IN REAL
12:04:18PM ESTATE, THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY OFFER SUBSIDIZED RENT TO
12:04:21PM SOMEBODY JUST LIKE WE DO AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OTHER
12:04:25PM THINGS.
12:04:25PM I THINK WE SHOULD START AT LEAST FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
12:04:28PM MAYBE LESS THE ALCOHOL PART, FRESH FOOD, BUT YOU REMEMBER
12:04:33PM THE OLD GROCERY STORES A LONG TIME AGO WERE SMALLER AND THEY
12:04:36PM ALL BECAME BIG.
12:04:38PM I PERSONALLY WAS INVOLVED IN THE SOUTH ST. PETE PROJECT,
12:04:43PM TANGERINE PLAZA, THAT KASH N' KARRY BECAME SWEETBAY, THEN
12:04:48PM WALMART, AND THAT WAS JUST A DISASTER BECAUSE IT'S A BIG
12:04:52PM THING YOU HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE ON A LARGE SCALE WHEREAS IF YOU
12:04:54PM HAVE A SMALL SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY, SOME PLACES LIKE BOSTON
12:04:58PM COMMUNITY CAPITAL WILL TAKE EQUITY IN EXCHANGE OR SOME
12:05:02PM PERCENTAGE OF PROFIT IN EXCHANGE FOR LOWER RENT.
12:05:06PM SO, ANYWAY, THE POINT IS THERE ARE A LOT OF IDEAS THERE THAT
12:05:10PM WE CAN LOOK AT.
12:05:12PM BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TO US.
12:05:16PM THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY, I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED ABOUT
12:05:20PM THE TURN FOOD DESERT.
12:05:25PM I NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH BUT I CAN'T FIND WHY IT'S SO
12:05:28PM OFFENSIVE THAT YOU CAN'T USE IT ANYMORE.
12:05:30PM I'M A BRAND NEW PERSON.
12:05:32PM I THINK IT'S A HUGE MISTAKE TO SWITCH TO LILA BECAUSE NOBODY

12:05:37PM KNOWS WHAT IT IS.
12:05:38PM I THINK PEOPLE ARE JUST -- PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF
12:05:41PM IT UNDERSTAND IT BUT THE PUBLIC KIND OF UNDERSTANDS IT.
12:05:44PM WE THROW OUT A NEW TERM, THE MONEY WE HAVE TO SPEND TO
12:05:48PM EDUCATE PEOPLE, AND THE TERM IS GOING TO HURT THE EFFORT.
12:05:51PM IT'S OKAY TO EDUCATE PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN'T USE IT ALL THE
12:05:54PM TIME IF IT'S SO OFFENSIVE THAT NOBODY CAN USE IT, FINE, BUT
12:05:57PM IF WE GET RID OF IT COMPLETELY IT'S GOING TO BE POSSIBLE TO
12:06:00PM HAVE THE MONEY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON WHAT IT IS BECAUSE
12:06:05PM SO MANY YEARS HAVE BEEN SPENT EDUCATING PEOPLE IN THAT
12:06:07PM CONCEPT.
12:06:08PM AND I THINK IT WOULD SET BACK THE EFFORT A LOT, BECAUSE WE
12:06:11PM DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PUT IT OUT THE WAY WE NEED.
12:06:18PM THANK YOU.
12:06:18PM >>WHIT REMER: I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO THE SECOND AND
12:06:23PM THIRD PARTS OF THE MOTION, THE AVAILABILITY OF PARCELS.
12:06:27PM IF WE CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP.
12:06:32PM SO I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT, IT MIGHT NOT BE IN THE CRA
12:06:37PM PLANNING DOCUMENTS TO SUPPORT THESE TYPES OF EFFORTS, THERE
12:06:39PM ARE AT LEAST TWO CITY PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT MENTIONED
12:06:45PM TALKING ABOUT NURTURING FOOD ACCESS, 2.2.6, A ROAD MAP, AND
12:06:52PM FOR THE FIRST TIME, I'M SHOWING A COUPLE OF SNIPPETS FROM
12:06:55PM THE FORTHCOMING TAMPA EQUITY AND ACTION PLAN, RELEASED IN A
12:07:01PM COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND THERE'S A CHAPTER OWN FOOD AND FOOD
12:07:04PM ACCESS RELATED TO CLIMATE.

12:07:06PM I JUST WANT TO POINT THOSE OUT TO COUNCIL.
12:07:11PM 200 PARTICIPATION THAT HOME GROWN HILLSBOROUGH WORKS WITH.
12:07:15PM IT'S WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO A COUPLE OF ORGANIZATIONS
12:07:17PM THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS WORKED WITH HISTORICALLY AND WILL
12:07:20PM CONTINUE TO WORK WITH.
12:07:21PM OF COURSE THERE ARE MANY, MANY MORE ESPECIALLY COMMUNITY
12:07:24PM BASED ORGANIZATIONS, IN ADDITION TO THOSE THAT I AM SHOWING
12:07:27PM HERE.
12:07:28PM AND FINAL PART OF THE MOTION ASKED THE CITY TO RESEARCH
12:07:35PM PARCELS, AND NOW THE MOTION I THINK WAS -- THAT WORK WITH
12:07:39PM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER, WE WORK WITH THE
12:07:42PM CITY OF TAMPA REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT ON THESE REMAINDER
12:07:45PM PARCELS I DO HAVE AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET SNIPPET, THERE'S A
12:07:50PM LIST OF ABOUT 20 THAT WE THINK ARE VERY GOOD CANDIDATES, AND
12:07:54PM THEN A LIST OF ABOUT 40 THAT ARE POTENTIALLY CANDIDATES THAT
12:07:57PM WILL NEED ADDITIONAL RESEARCH.
12:07:59PM THIS IS KIND OF WHAT A COUPLE OF THOSE REMAINDER PARCELS
12:08:02PM LOOK LIKE, AND THE CITY I THINK IS LOOKING AT LOCALITIES OF
12:08:04PM OPTIONS FOR THESE REMAINDER PARCELS.
12:08:06PM THESE ARE THE PARCELS THAT WE DEEM WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE,
12:08:09PM FOR INSTANCE, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, THEIR SIZE
12:08:12PM WAS KIND OF MAYBE MORE LENT MORE TO COMMUNITY GARDENING AND
12:08:18PM THERE WEREN'T TREES THAT SHADED THE PROPERTY.
12:08:21PM SO WE HAVE DONE KIND OF A PRELIMINARY CURSORY REVIEW OF
12:08:24PM THESE PROPERTIES.

12:08:24PM I WILL TELL YOU THAT TO REITERATE WHAT'S BEEN SAID HERE
12:08:28PM TODAY, THESE PARCELS WILL NOT SOLVE FOOD ACCESS BY VIRTUE OF
12:08:32PM COMMUNITY GARDENING.
12:08:34PM MEACHUM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE ARE FARMERS THERE FROM
12:08:37PM 9 A.M. TO 5 P.M. EVERY SINGLE DAY, A FULL-TIME JOB.
12:08:41PM WE WORK WITH THE COALITION OF COMMUNITY GARDENS AND OTHER
12:08:44PM LOCAL COMMUNITY GARDENING GROUPS CURRENTLY WORK $300,000
12:08:50PM GRANT COALITION OF COMMUNITY GARDENS.
12:08:52PM WE JUST SUBMITTED A MILLION DOLLAR GRANT UNDER THEIR
12:08:57PM ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE PROGRAM TO HELP WITH GARDENING ON 22ND
12:09:00PM STREET.
12:09:01PM COUNCILMAN GOODS, HEALTHY STEPS GARDEN.
12:09:03PM AND THOSE ARE GOOD EFFORTS, BUT AGAIN I DON'T THINK THEY ARE
12:09:06PM GOING TO SOLVE KIND OF THE LARGER ACCESS PROBLEM.
12:09:10PM SO WE DO HAVE THE PARCELS AVAILABLE.
12:09:13PM WE WILL CONTINUE TO RESEARCH THOSE AT THE DIRECTION OF
12:09:15PM COUNCIL.
12:09:16PM BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND ENGAGEMENT
12:09:20PM AROUND THIS.
12:09:21PM OTHERWISE, YOU GET A COUPLE OF EXCITED PEOPLE, THEY GO TO
12:09:24PM COMMUNITY GARDEN, THEY MOVE, THEY BECOME UNABLE TO SUPPORT
12:09:29PM THE GARDEN, AND THEN IT BECOMES AN EYESORE FOR THE
12:09:32PM COMMUNITY.
12:09:32PM THIS HAPPENS AT SCHOOLS ALL THE TIME, YOU GET A COUPLE OF
12:09:35PM PARENTS THAT ARE REALLY ACTIVE AND THEY MOVE UP TO MIDDLE

12:09:38PM SCHOOL AND THEN THE COMMUNITY GARDEN AT THE SCHOOL KIND OF
12:09:40PM GOES BAREN.
12:09:43PM SO WE REALLY NEED AN ALL-HANDS APPROACH HERE.
12:09:47PM AND THAT'S THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION.
12:09:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:09:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU DEEMED AS
12:09:53PM THE POSSIBILITY, THE UPPER PART OF THE LIST, ARE IN THE
12:09:58PM PARTS OF THE CITY THAT NEED IT THE MOST.
12:10:01PM AND I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE -- COMMUNITY GARDENS
12:10:04PM GOING TO SOLVE THE ISSUE.
12:10:06PM HOWEVER, THEY HAVE NOTHING OR CLOSE TO NOTHING OR CONSIDERED
12:10:08PM WHETHER WE USE THE TERM OR NOT, IT IS A FOOD DESERT.
12:10:12PM IF YOU AND I WENT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THE OPTIONS ARE MORE
12:10:16PM THAN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
12:10:18PM SO THE COMMUNITY GARDENS REQUIRES A LOT OF COMMUNITY EFFORT.
12:10:26PM IT'S A BIG I WON'T SAY ORGANIZATION.
12:10:30PM >>WHIT REMER: OPERATION.
12:10:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OPERATION, RIGHT.
12:10:33PM AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
12:10:35PM THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
12:10:36PM OR THEY HAVE VERY LIMITED OPTIONS IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE
12:10:39PM CITY BUT WE CAN CREATE THESE COMMUNITY GARDENS OR
12:10:44PM ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE THAT
12:10:46PM ARE IN THAT COMMUNITY.
12:10:47PM THEY CAN BE PROUD OF WHAT THEY ARE GROWING.

12:10:49PM THEY ARE HELPING AID THE SITUATION, MAY NOT SOLVE THE
12:10:52PM PROCESS OR THE PROBLEM, HOWEVER, IT'S CREATING SOMETHING
12:10:56PM THAT'S NOT THERE AND GIVING PEOPLE ACCESS BECAUSE IT SEEMS
12:10:59PM LIKE YOU SHOWED PROPERTY ON SHADOWLAWN, YOU SHOWED -- THEY
12:11:05PM ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:11:06PM PEOPLE CAN WALK TO THESE PLACES.
12:11:08PM THEY DON'T NEED A CAR.
12:11:09PM THEY DON'T NEED TO TAKE A BUS.
12:11:11PM THEY CAN WALK THERE AND GET WHAT THEY NEED THAT'S HEALTHY, A
12:11:14PM HEALTHIER OPTION FROM WHATEVER ELSE THEY COULD BE EATING.
12:11:21PM SO I THINK EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS.
12:11:26PM YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
12:11:27PM AND I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO TRANSPORT TAMPA'S TOMORROW,
12:11:31PM THAT INCLUDES ALL PARTS OF THE CITY.
12:11:33PM AND WE SEE THAT WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM AS SHOWN ON THE LILA
12:11:38PM MAP, OR THESE CORRIDORS ARE, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO START
12:11:43PM SOMEWHERE.
12:11:44PM AGAIN WE ARE NOT SOLVING EVER EVERYTHING BUT JUST LIKE THE
12:11:47PM HOUSING CRISIS.
12:11:48PM WE AREN'T GOING TO BE BUILDING 10,000 UNITS TOMORROW BUT
12:11:52PM BUILD HERE, BUILD THERE.
12:11:53PM IT ALL WORKS IN CONJUNCTION FOR OUR SUCCESS AS A WHOLE.
12:11:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:11:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONE THING THAT IS SCARCE IN TAMPA AND
12:12:06PM IS GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE SCARCE OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS

12:12:08PM IS LAND.
12:12:09PM AND IF WE HAVE THE LAND IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO USE IT
12:12:16PM TEMPORARILY.
12:12:16PM BUT WHAT URBAN AREAS ARE GOING THROUGH IS VERTICAL GARDENS
12:12:20PM LIKE PUTTING A GARDEN ON TOP OF A PARKING GARAGE OR
12:12:24PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND MAYBE IN YOUR RESEARCH YOU CAN FIND
12:12:27PM WAYS TO SEE A PURPOSE IN COMMUNITY CENTERS ON THE TOP.
12:12:34PM BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME IDEAS THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US AS THE
12:12:38PM CRA BOARD, AND INCENTIVIZING INSTEAD OF $50,000 FACADE
12:12:44PM GRANT, LIKE THE GUYS THAT WERE HERE EARLIER BUILDING A
12:12:47PM TEN-UNIT BUILDING, THEN WE CAN SAY, WELL, IF YOU SET A
12:12:51PM FACADE GRANT WE WILL GIVE YOU A $50,000 GRANT TO PUT A
12:12:56PM COMMUNITY GARDEN ON THE ROOF OR SOMETHING.
12:12:58PM IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE COME
12:13:00PM BACK AND LET US KNOW.
12:13:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:13:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
12:13:07PM IF I WERE TO VENTURE A GUESS, I WOULD SAY FOR PERSONAL LAND
12:13:12PM THAT'S BEEN UNDEVELOPED TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT A USEFUL
12:13:15PM COMMUNITY GARDEN WOULD BE SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE OF LIKE 5
12:13:19PM TO $10,000, MAYBE EVEN MORE.
12:13:21PM >> I COULD SPEAK ON THAT.
12:13:24PM SO $10 FOR STARTING AND THEN A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.
12:13:28PM THE BIG ISSUE IS ACCESS TO WATER WHICH BUT YES, SHED, TOOLS,
12:13:35PM SOIL, ALL OF THAT.

12:13:36PM SO 10,000 IS ROUGHLY THE STARTING, AND IT HAS ANNUAL COSTS
12:13:42PM AS WELL.
12:13:42PM AND THEN OF COURSE THE BEST MODEL IS TO HAVE A PART-TIME
12:13:47PM PAID PERSON WHO IS THERE, AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY EXPENSIVE AS
12:13:50PM WELL.
12:13:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO, YEAH, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE EXPENSE
12:13:55PM OF THAT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, I WATCHED PEOPLE UM GROW
12:14:01PM FROM LITERALLY LIKE A LOT THAT HAD A SIGN THAT SAID URBAN
12:14:06PM FARM COMING SOON, AND I WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT IT, THAT LILA,
12:14:09PM I MADE MY POOR HUSBAND BIKE DOWN THERE EVERY THREE MONTHS OR
12:14:14PM SEE JUST TO SEE WHERE IT WAS GOING.
12:14:16PM THEN WHEN I ENDED UP TALKING TO THE FOLKS WHO RUN IT, ONE OF
12:14:19PM THE THINGS THEY SAID WOULD BE MOST BENEFICIAL TO THEM IS
12:14:22PM MORE SPACE TO GROW THINGS, THAT THEY CAN THEN SELL TO
12:14:27PM PEOPLE.
12:14:28PM SO JUST ALLOWING OTHER PEOPLE TO USE THAT LAND, AND THE
12:14:33PM GREAT THING ABOUT MEACHUM THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS
12:14:37PM THEY ARE A PART OF THE EBT PROGRAM, AND BASICALLY EVERY
12:14:42PM COMMUNITY, OR RATHER GARDEN CAN DO THIS, FARM, BUT THEY
12:14:50PM BASICALLY TAKE YOUR EBT AND DOUBLE IT SO YOU ARE ABLE TO
12:14:55PM AFFORD THAT NUTRITIOUS LOCALLY-GROWN FRUITS AND VEGETABLES.
12:15:02PM SO I THINK THAT'S EVEN SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT IN
12:15:04PM TERMS OF LIKE PARTNERING FOR SOME OF THIS LAND THAT MIGHT
12:15:09PM NOT BE -- THE PROBLEM IS THEY NEED GOOD-SIZED USABLE LAND,
12:15:14PM AND SO THAT'S THE TRICK.

12:15:18PM IT'S HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHERE A GOOD PLACE TO PUT SOME OF
12:15:21PM THIS WOULD BE, BUT I THINK FROM THIS DISCUSSION, IT SEEMS
12:15:25PM THAT ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS WE COULD DO SITTING AS THE CRA
12:15:29PM BOARD IS TO LOOK AT SOME LAND AND MAYBE OFFER SOME SERIOUS
12:15:34PM INCENTIVES FOR ONE OF THE LOW-COST GROCERY STORES TO COME
12:15:39PM IN.
12:15:40PM YOU KNOW, WAY THINK OF, I THINK OF ALDI BECAUSE I REGULARLY
12:15:44PM SHOP AT ALDI BUT I BASICALLY HAVE TO DRIVE OUT OF TIME TOWN
12:15:49PM TO DO IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY PUT THEIR STORES BECAUSE
12:15:51PM IT'S CHEAPER.
12:15:52PM SO HOW DO WE TAKE SOME OF THOSE LOW-COST STORES, FIGURE OUT
12:15:56PM HOW WE CAN GET THERE TO BE IN THOSE LOCATIONS, AS TO NOT
12:15:59PM BUYING IT AND STARTING IT OURSELVES, BECAUSE I LIVED IN
12:16:02PM ST. PETE WHEN THAT WAS AN ISSUE WITH TANGERINE PLAZA, BUT
12:16:06PM WHAT CAN WE DO, WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM ST. PETE, WHAT CAN WE
12:16:09PM LEARN FROM OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE DONE SO, AND ENCOURAGE,
12:16:15PM MONETARILY ENCOURAGE THOSE STORES TO COME INTO THE AREAS,
12:16:19PM AND WHERE WE NEED THEM.
12:16:21PM >>WHIT REMER: I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
12:16:24PM AND MEACHUM ACTUALLY WAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY
12:16:27PM SCHOOL BOARDS, THAT'S COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD LAND, SO YOU COULD
12:16:30PM SEE KIND OF A SIMILARITY BETWEEN THE CRA DOING SOMETHING
12:16:34PM LIKE THAT AS THE COUNTY DID.
12:16:36PM I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT LEASE RUNS.
12:16:38PM BUT I KNOW THAT THE MODEL THAT MEACHUM APPROACH, OR THE WAY

12:16:43PM THEY WERE ABLE TO SECURE THAT CONTRACT, WAS OFFERING EBT AND
12:16:49PM WORKING WITH ENCORE NEXT DOOR AND OFFERING THEIR FOOD AT A
12:16:56PM RATE THAT WAS AFFORDABLE TO THOSE RESIDENTS.
12:16:58PM I DO WANT TO ALSO MENTION ONE OF THE ASKS THAT MONICA MADE
12:17:02PM TODAY WAS THE COUNCIL SUPPORTING STAFF FOR THE HOME GROWN
12:17:08PM HILLSBOROUGH PROGRAM AND IF I CAN TAKE A MOMENT AND
12:17:11PM INTRODUCE YOU TO KAYLA CASELLI WHO IS THE NEW SUSTAINABILITY
12:17:13PM COORDINATOR. SHE STARTED WITH THE CITY THREE WEEKS AGO, AND
12:17:15PM HER PASSION IS FOOD AND SHE WILL BE WORKING WITH MY OFFICE
12:17:18PM ON THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS.
12:17:20PM SHE'S A GRADUATE OF UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND PATEL COLLEGE
12:17:23PM OF SUSTAINABILITY AND IS JUST SUPER SMART ON THESE FOOD
12:17:27PM ISSUES, AND ACTUALLY I WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH MONICA AS
12:17:31PM NECESSARY.
12:17:33PM >> HELLO EVERYONE. THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
12:17:36PM I'M EXCITED TO BE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT WITH FOOD SYSTEMS
12:17:40PM AND ALL THINGS SUSTAINABILITY.
12:17:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WELCOME ABOARD.
12:17:46PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:17:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THEN YOU JUST MOVED HERE FROM
12:17:50PM GAINESVILLE, OR IN THAT AREA, SO YOU WERE THERE.
12:17:53PM SO WHEN I THINK OF FARMS AND URBAN AGRICULTURE, I OFTEN
12:17:59PM THINK OF THE FARMERS MARKETS THAT GAINESVILLE HAS BEEN DOING
12:18:04PM FOREVER, AND ITS OWN LOCAL GROCERY STORE, WORDS, WHICH
12:18:08PM ACTUALLY BUYS FRUITS AND VEGETABLES FROM GARDENERS IN THE

12:18:11PM AREA, AND SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT EARLIER, AND I WAS
12:18:16PM THINKING, THAT REMINDS ME OF THAT STORE AND HOW WE COULD
12:18:21PM POSSIBLY EVEN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND ENCOURAGE THAT
12:18:25PM HERE.
12:18:25PM >> YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT EXAMPLES, IN THE
12:18:30PM REST OF THE COUNTRY, SO I THINK WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT
12:18:34PM THE WHEEL BUT LOOK AT WHAT'S WORKED REALLY WELL AND APPLY IT
12:18:38PM HERE.
12:18:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT.
12:18:42PM WHEN WE GO TO MANATEE COUNTY, AND IF YOU GET OFF AT 276, I
12:18:46PM BELIEVE, AND DRIVE DOWN, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE
12:18:50PM STORE, INDEPENDENCE STORES LIKE A FARMERS MARKET, THAT'S A
12:18:52PM GROCERY STORE, AS YOU GET INTO PALMETTO CITY LIMITS, I HAVE
12:18:59PM BEEN THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I HAVE SOME FRIENDS IN
12:19:00PM THAT AREA OF TOWN, AND I HAVE BEEN IN THAT STORE.
12:19:02PM SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THESE INDEPENDENTS OR YOU ARE TALKING
12:19:06PM ABOUT -- THEY DO WORK, AND I'LL TELL YOU, THEY ARE PRETTY
12:19:11PM MUCH LIKE YOUR MAJOR PUBLIX OR WHATEVER.
12:19:14PM SO JUST AN IDEA WE START LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN FIND PROPERTY
12:19:18PM AND TALKING TO OTHER PEOPLE TO SEE HOW NOT REINVENT THE
12:19:23PM WHEEL BUT SEE HOW THEY ARE DOING.
12:19:26PM >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT.
12:19:29PM WE TALKED ABOUT MEACHUMS A LOT TODAY.
12:19:31PM MEACHUMS WAS A $1 MILLION PROJECT TO GET GOING.
12:19:34PM SO AS WE TALK ABOUT HAVING MORE MEACHUMS, THAT'S KIND OF THE

12:19:37PM STARTING POINT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, GREENHOUSES,
12:19:39PM EQUIPMENT, THEN ADDITIONALLY THEIR OPERATIONAL COSTS, THEIR
12:19:42PM LABOR.
12:19:43PM I'M PRETTY SURE THE FARMERS ARE NOT GETTING PAID A LIVABLE
12:19:47PM WAGE.
12:19:47PM I DON'T THINK THEY TAKE VACATIONS.
12:19:50PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF HEALTH CARE THEY HAVE.
12:19:52PM SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CREATING JOBS FOR FARMING, WE NEED TO
12:19:56PM TALK ABOUT, IS IT ON THE MORE DEMIC SIDE OR IS IT ON THE
12:20:02PM MORE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE TRULY CAREER KIND OF DEAL.
12:20:06PM SO ALL OF THIS CAN BE DISCUSSED.
12:20:08PM MANY, MANY HOURS.
12:20:09PM WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO IT.
12:20:11PM BUT, YEAH, I HEARD MEACHUM A LOT TODAY.
12:20:13PM IT'S A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE.
12:20:14PM I HOPE WE HAVE DOZENS MORE MEACHUMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY,
12:20:18PM STARTING PRICE TAG IS USUALLY AROUND A MILLION, THEN YOU
12:20:20PM HAVE TO KEEP PAYING -- THEY HAVE FIVE STAFF MEMBERS THAT
12:20:23PM WORK FULL TIME.
12:20:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:20:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALONG THAT LINE, SORRY IF I MISSED THIS
12:20:30PM EARLIER, BUT DOES THE COUNTY GIVE YOU A BUDGET?
12:20:33PM >> YES, I'M A STAFF MEMBER.
12:20:34PM OH, MY PROGRAM.
12:20:36PM SO WE WERE ABLE TO LEVERAGE SOME OF THE ARP FUNDS FROM BACK

12:20:40PM IN THE PANDEMIC, AND SO THIS SUMMER WE'LL ALSO HOPING TO
12:20:46PM ADVOCATE FOR MORE FUNDING FOR THE POSITION.
12:20:49PM SO THE ORIGINAL FUNDING FROM THE ARP IS FUNDING THE INITIAL
12:20:55PM HOME GROWN HILLSBOROUGH, LIKE IMPLEMENTATIONS, HIRING FOUR
12:20:57PM PART-TIME INTERNS, AND THEIR ENTIRE JOB IS TO SET UP
12:21:01PM MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS THAT WANT TO BE PART OF THE
12:21:03PM SYSTEM WORK, AND THAT'S VERY, VERY LARGE AND VARIED AND
12:21:05PM THAT'S ON PURPOSE.
12:21:06PM AND SO THEY WILL BE DOING THAT STARTING IN JUNE AND THROUGH
12:21:09PM THE REST OF THE YEAR.
12:21:10PM SO IF ANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE INTERVIEWED, IF YOU HAVE
12:21:12PM ANY BUSINESSES THAT YOU THINK WOULD FIT INTO THIS, IT
12:21:15PM DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A TRADITIONAL FOOD SYSTEM STAKEHOLDER, IT
12:21:20PM COULD BE A LAW FIRM THAT WANTS TO EDUCATE THEIR EMPLOYEES OR
12:21:23PM HELP FUND THE COMMUNITY GARDEN OR HELP PROVIDE LEGAL
12:21:26PM SERVICES TO GET THROUGH THE LAND USE STEPS.
12:21:28PM SO ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY CAN PLAY A ROLE IN THIS
12:21:32PM DEVELOPMENT.
12:21:33PM THIS NEXT YEAR WE ARE GOING TO START DOING THE INTERVIEWS,
12:21:35PM AND THAT'S WHAT OUR INITIAL FUNDING IS SUPPORTING.
12:21:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MUCH WAS IT AND HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK
12:21:40PM YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO?
12:21:42PM >> WE HOPE TO GET $200,000 FOR TWO YEARS.
12:21:46PM SO LIKE $400,000 FOR THIS PROJECT.
12:21:48PM WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT, BUT THAT IS OF

12:21:52PM COURSE UP TO --
12:21:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: DOES THE COUNTY HAVE OTHER BUCKETS THAT
12:21:57PM THEY CAN USE TO HELP SUBSIDIZE FARMS?
12:22:01PM >> MAYBE.
12:22:02PM IT'S JUST KIND OF MATTERS OF HOW THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO
12:22:06PM APPROACH IT.
12:22:07PM SO, YEAH, THERE'S LOTS OF TOOLS, THE COUNTY DOES HAVE A LOT
12:22:11PM OF ASSETS THAT CAN BE LEVERAGED.
12:22:14PM SO THERE'S A LOT TO BE DISCOVERED, YEAH.
12:22:19PM THANK YOU.
12:22:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:22:23PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:22:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO KNOW OF YOUR OFFICE,
12:22:32PM INVESTMENT, WHAT YOU HAVE TO HIRE AND WHAT'S THE RETURN ON
12:22:36PM THE PRODUCT THAT YOU WOULD BE GIVING TO THE PUBLIC?
12:22:38PM >> SO IT HASN'T BEEN DONE YET.
12:22:40PM WE ARE JUST STARTING THIS PROCESS.
12:22:41PM WE HAVE JUST FINISHED HIRING THESE INTERNS AND ACTUALLY
12:22:44PM TRAINING STARTS NEXT WEEK.
12:22:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT WOULD BE THE KEY, WOULDN'T IT?
12:22:47PM >> YES.
12:22:48PM AND I HAVE A MASTERS IN FOOD SYSTEMS, SO IT'S PART OF
12:22:51PM ECONOMICS DEGREE, SO I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH MAKING SURE
12:22:54PM EVERY DOLLAR THAT GOES IN HAS A DOLLAR ON THE OTHER SIDE,
12:22:57PM HOPEFULLY SEVERAL.

12:22:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:23:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:23:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:23:03PM SO WHAT I SENSE ON THIS COUNCIL IS OBVIOUSLY LIKE A
12:23:06PM COMMITMENT THAT WOULD BE VERY ROBUST IN MAKING SOMETHING
12:23:10PM LIKE THIS HAPPEN.
12:23:11PM FOR ME, THIS IS THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.
12:23:12PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE BASIC IDEA THAT THERE'S THE PLACES WITHIN
12:23:16PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, PLACES LIKE SULPHUR SPRINGS, EAST TAMPA
12:23:20PM AND OTHERS, WHERE EVERYONE CALLS FOOD DESERTS, WHERE THERE'S
12:23:24PM A LOT OF HUNGER, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND GOVERNMENT SHOULD
12:23:28PM INTERVENE TO RIGHT THAT WRONG.
12:23:29PM THERE ARE PARKS, FOR EXAMPLE, I LIVE IN NEW TAMPA.
12:23:32PM WE HAVE A LOT OF PARKS THAT ARE PRIVATE PARKS, RIGHT?
12:23:38PM OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY DON'T HAVE PARKS, PRIVATE PARKS, SO
12:23:41PM GUESS WHAT, GOVERNMENT INTERVENES TO MAKE SURE THAT KIDS
12:23:43PM HAVE A PLACE TO PLAY AND EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, YBOR CITY,
12:23:48PM SULPHUR SPRINGS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, WE INTERVENE IN THAT
12:23:50PM REGARD.
12:23:51PM TAKE A LOOK AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT POLICIES WHERE GOVERNMENT
12:23:54PM DOES THAT, AND WE SHOULD DO THAT HERE, THE VERY LEVEL OF
12:23:57PM INVOLVEMENT.
12:23:57PM AGAIN, THE COMMUNITY NOT HAVING A DIGNIFIED PLACE TO SHOP AT
12:24:05PM FOR FOOD IS A SIGN OF DISRESPECT FOR THAT COMMUNITY, AND WE
12:24:09PM SHOULD INTERVENE BY EVERY MEANS THAT WE HAVE, AND IF IT

12:24:12PM COSTS A MILLION BUCKS, I'M ALL FOR THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, IF I
12:24:16PM DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN MY COMMUNITY, I WOULD BE REALLY TICKED
12:24:19PM OFF, AND I WOULD WANT IT.
12:24:19PM AND WE SHOULD DO THAT.
12:24:21PM SO AGAIN ANY MOTION THAT WOULD BE MADE, I KNOW COUNCILMAN
12:24:24PM GUDES HAS DONE SO MUCH WORK ON THIS INCLUDING BACK WHEN HE
12:24:27PM WAS IN THE CAC BEFORE COUNCIL, I WILL BE GLAD TO SUPPORT IT.
12:24:31PM WE HAVE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
12:24:33PM IF IT COSTS A MILLION BUCKS, BRING IT ON BECAUSE IT'S THE
12:24:35PM RIGHT THING TO DO.
12:24:36PM >> HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE MANY MORE CONVERSATIONS.
12:24:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
12:24:44PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
12:24:45PM MR. REMER, I NEED TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY AND RECOGNIZE YOU
12:24:51PM ON YOUR HELP WITH THE RESILIENCY SUMMIT COMING UP THE FIRST
12:24:56PM WEEK OF MAY, WITH THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING
12:24:58PM COMMISSION.
12:25:02PM COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME.
12:25:03PM YOU PUT FORTH A LOT OF EFFORT, AND I KNOW IT WAS TOUGH, BUT
12:25:07PM I THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR HAVING TAMPA INVOLVED WITH
12:25:11PM THAT RESILIENCY SUMMIT.
12:25:13PM THANK YOU.
12:25:13PM WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 1:30.
12:25:16PM RECESSED.
12:25:18PM RECESSED UNTIL 1:30.

12:25:22PM (TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IN RECESS)
12:25:26PM
1:33:42PM (ROLL CALL)
1:33:44PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:33:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:33:47PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 77.
1:33:48PM FILE CM 22-77457.
1:34:04PM >>CARL BRODY: I PROVIDED SPECIFICALLY AN UPDATE TO
1:34:06PM DISCUSS -- AN UPDATE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CEMETERIES --
1:34:12PM COLLEGE HILL AND ROBLES CEMETERY.
1:34:16PM IF YOU READ THE MEMO, YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE CONCERN WITH
1:34:22PM DOING OF COURSE GPR PENETRATED RADAR ON THESE SITES BECAUSE
1:34:28PM THEY ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE ALL THE PROTECTIONS
1:34:30PM THAT PRIVATE PROPERTIES GET WHICH MEANS WE CANNOT FORCIBLY
1:34:35PM OR REQUIRE THEM TO DO GPR.
1:34:38PM BUT ADMINISTRATION DID NEGOTIATE WITH THE ITALIAN CLUB AND
1:34:43PM THEY HAVE AGREED TO DO GPR AND DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY, SO
1:34:48PM THE GPR HAS BEEN UNDERTAKEN, THEY AGREED TO PROVIDE US THE
1:34:54PM RESULTS OF THAT REPORT AND WE CAN DETERMINE THE NEXT STEPS
1:34:57PM ONCE WE DETERMINE WHAT THOSE RESULTS ARE.
1:35:00PM I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THAT THE CITY PARKS AND RECREATION
1:35:02PM DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT THE ISSUE, AND THE PLAN IS TO
1:35:07PM INCREASE SOME OF OUR REGULATIONS INTERNALLY THROUGH THE CITY
1:35:13PM POLICY.
1:35:13PM SO THE KEY THERE IS THAT CITY CEMETERIES WILL BE PROTECTED

1:35:19PM CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE PREVIOUS REQUEST OF COUNCIL IS,
1:35:22PM WHICH IS TO PROHIBIT PARKING AND TO PROHIBIT LOADING.
1:35:25PM I THINK LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE DETAILS THAT
1:35:29PM THESE CEMETERIES, WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE SO BROAD AS TO
1:35:32PM PROHIBIT THOSE, SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
1:35:36PM LIMITING PARKING ON CITY CEMETERIES, AND ANY LOADING OR ANY
1:35:40PM OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT AREN'T CONSISTENT WITH THE CEMETERY
1:35:43PM PROPERTY.
1:35:43PM FINALLY, JUST AN UPDATE THAT THE STATE LAW IS BEING UPDATED
1:35:49PM RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE GOOD, IT'S GOING TO BE A
1:35:52PM NEW PROGRAM, IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE EXTRA PROTECTIONS FOR
1:35:56PM CEMETERIES AND PARTICULARLY MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR US HERE,
1:36:00PM IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY TO
1:36:02PM RECEIVE GRANTS TO HELP RESTORE, MAINTAIN ABANDONED
1:36:06PM CEMETERIES.
1:36:07PM SO THAT'S JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
1:36:10PM AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
1:36:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M GLAD YOU LOOKED INTO THE STATE
1:36:15PM SITUATION.
1:36:15PM I TOLD YOU I KNEW IT WAS CHANGING SO I AM GLAD WE ARE DOING
1:36:19PM THAT.
1:36:19PM I STILL HAVEN'T GOT MUCH DETAIL ON THE 30th AND SLIGH
1:36:23PM SITUATION.
1:36:24PM >>CARL BRODY: THE ADMINISTRATION IS WORKING ON TRYING TO
1:36:28PM TRACK DOWN AND NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE 30th AND

1:36:32PM SLIGH.
1:36:33PM THAT'S A SMALL CEMETERY SO THEY ARE WORKING ON TRACKING THAT
1:36:38PM DOWN.
1:36:38PM AND WE WILL TRY TO GET THE SAME AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THE
1:36:41PM ITALIAN CLUB WHICH IS YOU GO AHEAD AND DO THE GPR OR ALLOW
1:36:46PM US TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO GPR AND WE WILL GET THE RESULTS
1:36:50PM AND DETERMINE WHAT'S UNDER THE GROUND THERE.
1:36:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO YOU GOT THE ACTUAL CEMETERY TO THE WEST
1:36:56PM A LITTLE BIT.
1:36:57PM YOU HAVE THE OPEN FIELD TO THE EAST.
1:36:59PM SO IS THAT ALL PART OF IT OR IS THAT AN OPEN PIECE OF PARCEL
1:37:04PM THERE?
1:37:06PM >>CARL BRODY: FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THE ACTUALS ROBLES PARK
1:37:09PM CEMETERY IS THAT SMALLER AREA.
1:37:11PM SO THAT'S THE AREA -- IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM, IF THERE WAS
1:37:16PM ANY UNDERGROUND GRAVES THERE, ADJACENT TO THAT SMALLER
1:37:22PM PROPERTY.
1:37:23PM SO THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE ON THAT.
1:37:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BUT THERE IS A SOLE OWNER FOR BOTH THOSE
1:37:29PM PIECES, ALL THAT PARCEL RIGHT THERE FROM THE 30th TO THE
1:37:33PM NORTHWEST CORNER OF 30th AND SLIGH?
1:37:38PM >>CARL BRODY: THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO.
1:37:40PM WHAT THE SPECIFIC PARAMETERS OF THE ROBLES CEMETERY IS, AND
1:37:44PM THE OWNERSHIP ON THAT, BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT, THERE IS A
1:37:47PM LARGE LOT, AND WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHO THE OWNER OF THAT IS

1:37:52PM AND ENTER INTO THE SAME NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE DO WITH THE
1:37:56PM ITALIAN CLUB IN ORDER TO GET THE GPR.
1:37:59PM SAME UNDERLYING ISSUES, THOUGH.
1:38:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO ANOTHER 69 DAYS BEFORE WE CAN COME UP
1:38:07PM WITH THAT ON ROBLES AND 30th STREET AND SLIGH?
1:38:12PM >>CARL BRODY: I WILL TALK TO THEM AND SEE WHERE WE ARE IN
1:38:14PM TERMS OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
1:38:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
1:38:18PM BECAUSE ASKING FOR ALL KIND OF THINGS, FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
1:38:24PM AND IT'S LIKE A LITTLE SWAMP SOMETIMES, BUT STILL, SOME
1:38:28PM THINGS ARE SACRED TO THE -- JUST SACRED, YOU KNOW.
1:38:33PM >>CARL BRODY: I AGREE.
1:38:34PM AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO AND DEFINITELY ANY
1:38:37PM PROPERTY THAT WE OWN, WE ARE GOING TO TREAT IT IN THE PROPER
1:38:42PM MANNER.
1:38:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M GOOD, SIR.
1:38:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:38:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
1:38:49PM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
1:38:51PM I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
1:38:52PM WHEN IT COMES TO THE ITALIAN CLUB AND THE INSPECTION THAT'S
1:38:56PM GOING TO BE HAPPENING, ARE WE GOING TO BE THERE AT ALL, OR
1:39:00PM JUST GOING TO GET THE REPORT, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK?
1:39:04PM >>CARL BRODY: THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY WOULD DO THE
1:39:06PM SEARCH, AND THEN THEY WOULD PROVIDE US THE REPORT.

1:39:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND COULD WE -- AND MAYBE WE'LL CROSS THAT
1:39:14PM BRIDGE WHENEVER IT HAPPENS, BUT -- AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON
1:39:18PM THESE SCANS AT ALL.
1:39:19PM YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU DEAL WITH EXPERTS ON THINGS THERE'S
1:39:23PM DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THINGS ET CETERA, SO WE WILL CROSS THAT
1:39:26PM BRIDGE WHENEVER IT COMES AND WHATNOT.
1:39:28PM ONE THING I WOULD ASK YOU, AND I SEE MS. ALDERMAN WHO IS
1:39:33PM HERE AND SHE HAS BEEN -- NOT SO INSTRUMENTAL, SHE HAS BEEN
1:39:37PM INSTRUMENTAL.
1:39:37PM AND ALL IF MY OFFICE NEEDS TO HELP WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE
1:39:43PM GREAT.
1:39:44PM BUT WE'LL JUST WAIT ON THE REPORT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND
1:39:50PM SEE WHERE IT GOES.
1:39:51PM AND I'M SURE THAT THIS WILL RETURN TO US, AND I KNOW
1:39:55PM COUNCILMAN GUDES BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE
1:39:58PM IT RETURNED TO US WHENEVER.
1:39:59PM WHEN ARE WE EXPECTING THE REPORT AGAIN?
1:40:02PM >>CARL BRODY: SO THE REPORT WE EXPECT SOMETIME IN MAY.
1:40:06PM SO MAYBE IF WE BRING THIS BACK -- SAY 60 DAYS, THAT
1:40:13PM DEFINITELY GIVES US TIME TO HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT, AND
1:40:17PM THEN DISCUSS THE RESULTS.
1:40:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
1:40:22PM I APPRECIATE IT.
1:40:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
1:40:26PM THANK YOU.

1:40:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE WAS GOING TO LET US KNOW.
1:40:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
1:40:45PM >>CARL BRODY: I WOULD THINK SO.
1:40:47PM IF YOU WANT --
1:40:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE PROCESS OF THAT.
1:40:56PM >>CARL BRODY: WHEN WE COME BACK YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE
1:40:59PM INFORMATION, SO IF WE DO 90 DAYS THAT WILL GIVE US MORE THAN
1:41:02PM ENOUGH TIME TO CLEAN THEM UP AND HAVE THE FINAL RESPONSE TO
1:41:06PM YOU.
1:41:07PM JULY 13 SOUNDS GREAT.
1:41:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT GOOD FOR YOU?
1:41:11PM >> SO MOVED.
1:41:15PM >> SECOND.
1:41:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
1:41:18PM MIRANDA.
1:41:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:41:20PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
1:41:21PM IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
1:41:23PM MOTION PASSES.
1:41:23PM >>CARL BRODY: THANK YOU.
1:41:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
1:41:26PM WE HAVE TO GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 67. IS THAT WITHDRAWN?
1:41:32PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
1:41:42PM THE REQUEST IS TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE SEPTEMBER 21st
1:41:45PM 2023 PUBLIC HEARING.

1:41:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [OFF MICROPHONE] MOVE TO OPEN --
1:41:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES,
1:41:50PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:41:51PM ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
1:41:53PM MOTION PASSES.
1:41:54PM >> THE REQUEST IS TO CONTINUE A HEARING FOR ARC 22-180 TO
1:42:00PM THE SEPTEMBER 21st, 2023 PUBLIC HEARING, I BELIEVE IT
1:42:03PM WILL BE AT 10:30 A.M.
1:42:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY
1:42:09PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:42:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:42:11PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
1:42:12PM MOTION PASSES.
1:42:12PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THANK YOU.
1:42:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 78.
1:42:28PM CM 22-74623.
1:42:30PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CITY ATTORNEY.
1:42:34PM THIS IS THE REQUEST FOR THE RESOLUTION SETTING FORTH THE
1:42:38PM PROCESS BY WHICH THE CITY WOULD ADVISE THE INDIVIDUAL
1:42:44PM MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL SHOULD THE CITY, ANYONE IN THE CITY
1:42:47PM RECEIVE NOTICE THAT THE CITY IS UNDER INVESTIGATIONS FOR
1:42:52PM VIOLATION OF CIVIL RIGHTS STATUTES.
1:42:56PM IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
1:42:58PM IT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED WHEN THIS MOTION WAS MADE.
1:43:01PM THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO MENTION, I KNOW WHEN COUNCILMAN

1:43:05PM CARLSON ORIGINALLY MADE THE MOTION HE ASKED FOR A TEN-DAY
1:43:08PM NOTICE.
1:43:08PM GIVEN THAT SOMETIMES THOSE HOLIDAYS OR SHORT WEEKS,
1:43:13PM WHATEVER, I THOUGHT IT WAS REASONABLE TO CHANGE IT TO 13
1:43:16PM DAYS.
1:43:19PM JUST, YOU KNOW, IN CASE.
1:43:21PM THE OTHER THING IS, I THINK IT WOULD AT ONE POINT IN TIME,
1:43:25PM THE MOTION REFERENCED CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS.
1:43:28PM WHILE I AM NO SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON THOSE, WHAT I HAVE
1:43:34PM COME TO LEARN IS BASICALLY YOU ARE NOT NOTIFIED WHEN YOU ARE
1:43:39PM UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR VIOLATION OF CRIMINAL LAWS,
1:43:43PM TYPICALLY.
1:43:44PM SO IT REALLY WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY OR REALISTIC TO HAVE A
1:43:48PM PROCESS FOR THAT BECAUSE IT'S SO INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY THAT
1:43:54PM THE CITY AS AN ENTITY WOULD BE NOTIFIED THAT IT WAS BEING
1:43:57PM INVESTIGATED FOR VIOLATION OF CRIMES.
1:43:59PM I AM NOT EVEN SURE HOW THE CITY AS AN ENTITY COULD COMMIT A
1:44:03PM CRIME, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE.
1:44:05PM SO IN ANY EVENT, THAT WAS -- I JUST WANTED TO POINT THOSE
1:44:10PM OUT.
1:44:10PM AGAIN, I THINK THE RESOLUTION IS STRAIGHTFORWARD.
1:44:14PM I CAN DESCRIBE THE PROCESS AGAIN IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
1:44:17PM WE DISCUSSED IT WHEN THE MOTION WAS MADE.
1:44:20PM OR WE CAN SKIP THAT PART.
1:44:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?

1:44:29PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:44:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOT A QUESTION.
1:44:31PM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.
1:44:33PM THIS IS LIKE THE SIXTH TIME THAT YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT
1:44:35PM HAVE PARTNERED WITH US TO GET SOMETHING DONE AND BRING IT IN
1:44:39PM FOR A LANDING SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
1:44:41PM I AM HAPPY TO -- DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT?
1:44:45PM MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
1:44:46PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THANK YOU.
1:44:50PM OFF TOPIC BUT EARLIER TODAY, NICOLE TRAVIS MENTIONED
1:44:53PM SOMETHING ABOUT A PRESS CONFERENCE AT TAMPA HOPE.
1:44:58PM AND I JUST WANTED TO ASSURE COUNCIL BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A
1:45:02PM SENSITIVE TOPIC, THE CONFERENCE WAS NOT ORGANIZED BY THE
1:45:05PM CITY OF TAMPA, IT WAS ORGANIZED BY TAMPA HOPE, THEY DID IT
1:45:09PM ON THE DATE AND TIME THAT WORKED BEST FOR THEIR SCHEDULE.
1:45:12PM THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT.
1:45:14PM SO I DID ASK, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, KEEP YOU ALL AWARE OF
1:45:19PM THAT.
1:45:19PM THANK YOU.
1:45:20PM THAT'S ALL.
1:45:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE RESOLUTION TO CM 22-74623.
1:45:27PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU SECONDED IT.
1:45:30PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE A MOTION.
1:45:32PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:45:33PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

1:45:35PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:45:36PM MOTION CARRIES.
1:45:41PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 80.
1:45:45PM FILE CM 23-80251.
1:46:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
1:46:39PM I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 80.
1:46:41PM FILE CM 80251 TO REPORT ON A PROCESS TO REPORT CITY COUNCIL
1:46:47PM AS TO -- INFORM CITY COUNCIL AS TO WHEN THERE IS A REQUEST
1:46:50PM FOR PROPOSAL OR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS EARLIER IN THE
1:46:53PM RFP PROCESS.
1:46:55PM AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY
1:46:59PM AND CHIEF OF STAFF, AND I ALSO HAD VERY INTERESTING AND
1:47:02PM INFORMATIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH GREG SPEARMAN IN
1:47:05PM PURCHASING AND WITH BRAD BAIRD IN CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
1:47:10PM AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, I PASSED OUT SOME SLIDES, JUST
1:47:14PM TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PROCESS.
1:47:15PM IT'S INTERESTING THAT COUNCIL HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION TODAY
1:47:18PM DURING ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE REGARDING THE CIP.
1:47:22PM AND A LOT OF WHAT IS PLANNING FOR CONSTRUCTION IS CONTAINED
1:47:28PM WITHIN THE CIP, AND THAT IS A PROGRAM, FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
1:47:32PM SO WHEN COUNCIL DOES HAVE THOSE BRIEFINGS AND THOSE
1:47:37PM WORKSHOPS, AND THE DISCUSSION DURING THE CHARTER, THAT IS
1:47:40PM VERY MUCH GIVING YOU THE ROAD MAP OF WHAT IS FORTHCOMING.
1:47:45PM AND, OF COURSE, WHEN YOU HAVE THESE UPDATES, YOU ARE BEING
1:47:49PM TOLD PERHAPS OF THE PROCESSES THAT ARE UNDERWAY, THE

1:47:53PM PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY, BUT IT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO
1:47:56PM LEARN WHAT IS FORTHCOMING SO YOU WILL HAVE ADVANCED NOTICE
1:48:00PM OF WHERE THE CITY IS, AND AGAIN, CIP IS A LIVING DOCUMENT.
1:48:05PM SO AS THINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO MOVE UP EACH YEAR, SOMETIMES
1:48:09PM SITUATIONS CHANGE AND THE ECONOMY CHANGES, PRIORITIES
1:48:12PM CHANGE, AND THE CIP SOMEWHAT CHANGES.
1:48:14PM SO YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO INQUIRE OF CHANGES FROM,
1:48:18PM LET'S SAY, ONE YEAR'S CIP TO THE NEXT YEAR TO BE ABLE TO GET
1:48:21PM A SENSE OF WHAT PRIORITIES IF ANY ARE CHANGING WITHIN THE
1:48:25PM CITY.
1:48:25PM NOW, THERE ARE REALLY SOME REALLY GOOD RESOURCES -- AND I AM
1:48:30PM NOT SAYING THIS JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE
1:48:32PM I AM SAYING THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, TOO, THAT
1:48:35PM THE CITY'S WEBSITE CONTAINS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT IS ALL
1:48:40PM USEFUL, AND WHAT I AM GOING TO BE SHARING WITH YOU -- AND I
1:48:43PM HAVE PREPARED SOME SLIDES ALL FROM THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THE
1:48:47PM CITY'S WEB PAGE.
1:48:48PM AND IT'S NOT JUST THE INTERNET.
1:48:49PM THIS IS NOT WITHIN THE CITY.
1:48:51PM THIS IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT TAMPAGOV -- TAMPA.GOV.
1:49:00PM SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THIS DOWN JUST TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE
1:49:04PM SOURCES WHERE YOU AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR ABOUT
1:49:09PM THINGS BEFORE THEY END UP ON THE CONSENT DOCKET OR UNDER
1:49:15PM STAFF REPORTS FOR THE APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT.
1:49:18PM THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING INTERACTIVE SITE, AND ALL YOU

1:49:21PM HAVE TO DO TO GET DO THIS IS IN THE SEARCH BAR, YOU PUT IN
1:49:26PM CIP, AND IT WILL TAKE YOU RIGHT THERE.
1:49:28PM AND THIS IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS VIEWER.
1:49:32PM AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT GIVES YOU INFORMATION AS TO SPECIFIC
1:49:37PM PROJECTS.
1:49:37PM IT ALSO BREAKS IT DOWN TO MANY DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.
1:49:42PM IT BREAKS IT DOWN INTO DISTRICTS, AND BREAKS IT DOWN INTO
1:49:46PM NEIGHBORHOODS, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT'S BEING
1:49:49PM PROPOSED AND WHAT'S BEING UNDERWAY.
1:49:53PM AND THIS IS UPDATED REGULARLY.
1:49:55PM I BELIEVE THIS IS UPDATED ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
1:49:58PM NOW, COUNCIL, YOU HAD THE BENEFIT OF A PRESENTATION ON
1:50:02PM JANUARY 26th WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION REPORTED TO YOU
1:50:06PM ABOUT THE CIP PROCESS THAT YOU ARE CONTINUING TO MOVE
1:50:10PM FORWARD, AND YOU JUST SET AN ADDITIONAL WORKSHOP ON THAT
1:50:14PM SUBJECT.
1:50:16PM AND WITH THAT, YOU HAD A WHOLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE KIND OF
1:50:21PM INTERACTION THAT THE PUBLIC HAS, AND THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
1:50:26PM HAS WITH YOU TO BE ABLE TO KEEP YOU INFORMED.
1:50:29PM AND I BELIEVE THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL IS TAKING WITH THE
1:50:33PM ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE THESE REGULAR UPDATES WILL CERTAINLY
1:50:36PM BE OF BENEFIT TO YOU, BECAUSE IT WILL BE BROUGHT UP TO DATE,
1:50:40PM AND YOU WILL BE BROUGHT UP TO DATE, AND YOU WILL HAVE THE
1:50:42PM OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE THE ADMINISTRATION AND ASK QUESTIONS
1:50:44PM ABOUT UPCOMING PROJECTS OR PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER

1:50:47PM CONSTRUCTION.
1:50:49PM NOW, ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS HERE IS THAT IF THE
1:50:55PM PUBLIC IS INTERESTED, THAT WHOLE PRESENTATION, BY THE WAY,
1:50:59PM IS AVAILABLE ON THIS WEBSITE, JUST BY PUTTING IN CIP IN THE
1:51:03PM SEARCH BAR AND IT TAKES YOU TO WHAT THE PRESENTATION WAS
1:51:06PM MADE ON JANUARY 26th.
1:51:09PM YOU HAVE THE PowerPoint THERE, SO THE PUBLIC CAN LOOK AT
1:51:11PM THAT AND SEE WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS PROPOSED, AND ALSO
1:51:15PM THERE'S AN EXCELLENT ABOUT A 3-MINUTE VIDEO THAT ACTUALLY
1:51:18PM INSTRUCTS YOU ON HOW TO USE THE CIP VIEWER.
1:51:21PM SO THAT IS AN ASSET THAT YOU AND THE PUBLIC CAN TAKE
1:51:26PM ADVANTAGE OF TO SEE WHAT IS IN THE PIPELINE FOR THE CAPITAL
1:51:33PM IMPROVEMENTS.
1:51:34PM NOW, GOING TO -- THE WAY TO GET DO THESE WEBSITES FOR
1:51:42PM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS GOVERNMENT AT
1:51:43PM THE TOP?
1:51:45PM IT'S A DROP-DOWN.
1:51:48PM IT'S RIGHT TO THE LEFT OF THE WORD JOBS AT THE FAR RIGHT
1:51:51PM CORNER.
1:51:52PM AND YOU DROP DOWN ON THE WORD "GOVERNMENT" AND YOU GO TO
1:51:55PM "DEPARTMENTS."
1:51:57PM AND WHEN YOU GO TO DEPARTMENTS, IT WILL LIST ALL OF THE
1:51:59PM DEVELOPMENTS OF THE CITY.
1:52:00PM YOU SCROLL DOWN TO CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, AND IT TAKES YOU
1:52:03PM TO THEIR LANDING PAGE.

1:52:06PM AND THERE ARE SOME VERY USEFUL LINKS THAT WILL INFORM YOU
1:52:09PM ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH REGARD TO CONTRACT
1:52:11PM ADMINISTRATION.
1:52:13PM NOW, THE CITY HAS -- IT'S CALLED CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION,
1:52:17PM AND THAT IS REALLY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, OBVIOUSLY
1:52:21PM ADMINISTRATION OF THE CONTRACTS, AND IT'S THOSE THINGS THAT
1:52:25PM ARE VERTICAL OR IN THE GROUND, THINGS THAT ARE BUILT.
1:52:29PM AND WHAT'S INTERESTING THERE IS THAT YOU HAVE LINKS TO THE
1:52:32PM LEFT THAT ARE USEFUL.
1:52:34PM ONE OF THOSE IS A LINK THAT WE'LL GET TO NO MINUTE WHERE IT
1:52:38PM SAYS PURCHASING, AND IT TAKES YOU TO PURCHASING.
1:52:41PM BUT WHAT IS VERY INTERESTING IN CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION IS
1:52:46PM THE LINK AT THE BOTTOM THAT SAYS FUTURE PROJECTS REPORT.
1:52:51PM AND YOU SEE THAT WHERE IT SAYS LEARN MORE ABOUT.
1:52:53PM AND WHEN YOU TAKE THAT, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WHAT THAT
1:52:57PM DOES -- AND THIS IS UPDATED MONTHLY, AND ALL OF THESE ARE
1:53:07PM KEPT CURRENT BY THE DEPARTMENTS.
1:53:09PM SO THAT YOU ARE APPRISED AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC IS APPRISED
1:53:13PM OF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AND YOU CAN SEE, LET'S SAY FOR
1:53:15PM INSTANCE, JUST THE TOP LINE THE WATERS AVENUE SEWER
1:53:19PM REHABILITATION BY CIP, IT TELLS YOU THE COST ESTIMATE, AND
1:53:23PM IT ALSO HAS ESTIMATED RFQ OR BID ADVERTISING.
1:53:27PM NOW, WITH REGARD TO BIDS, RFQs OR RFPS, IT'S AN INVOLVED
1:53:36PM PROCESS SO I LEARNED TO THE POINT THAT IT GETS TO BE
1:53:38PM RELEASED OR BROADCAST.

1:53:40PM AND FROM THE TIME THAT IT IS RELEASED AND BROADCAST, THERE
1:53:42PM IS A CERTAIN CONE OF SILENCE AS STOW COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT
1:53:47PM BEING ABLE TO DISCUSS THESE.
1:53:49PM NOW OBVIOUSLY YOU AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU SEE SEWING
1:53:53PM THAT HAS YOUR INTEREST, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY AND
1:53:55PM THE OPPORTUNITY AND ARE ENCOURAGED TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND
1:53:58PM TALK TO THE ADMINISTRATOR OR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO GET YOUR
1:54:01PM QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
1:54:03PM IF YOU THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO CITY
1:54:05PM COUNCIL YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
1:54:07PM BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING, IT TELLS YOU THE DEPARTMENT BUT ALSO
1:54:11PM TELLS YOU ABOUT THE ESTIMATED RFQ OR BID ADVERTISING MARK
1:54:15PM AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT IS WORKING FORWARD AND GOES DOWN
1:54:18PM THE LIST, OBVIOUSLY SOME THINGS ARE TO BE DETERMINED.
1:54:21PM I GO TO PAGE 2 HERE.
1:54:24PM YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING SET FORTH IN RED.
1:54:29PM AND IT TELLS YOU SOME THINGS ARE DELAYED, SOME THINGS HAVE A
1:54:33PM DATE, AND SOME THINGS ARE TO BE DETERMINED.
1:54:35PM NOW AGAIN IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT INTERESTS YOU AS A
1:54:37PM COUNCILMEMBER OR A CONSTITUENT THAT'S BROUGHT TO YOUR
1:54:39PM ATTENTION WHEN YOU SEE THAT AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE DEPTH OF
1:54:43PM KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS, IS SOMETHING
1:54:47PM THAT YOU CAN DRILL DOWN TALKING TO THE DEPARTMENT AND GET
1:54:51PM THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT CAN HELP YOU BE PREPARED FOR
1:54:56PM THESE THINGS COMING FORTH IN ADVANCE.

1:54:58PM SO USING TOOLS LIKE THIS, COUNCIL CAN KEEP ITSELF INFORMED
1:55:03PM ABOUT THE FUTURE PROJECTS.
1:55:05PM AND LASTLY, IF I WERE TO CLICK THE DEPARTMENT THAT SAYS
1:55:12PM "PURCHASING," OR IF I WERE TO CLICK THE QUICK LINK ON THE
1:55:17PM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION PAGE, IT WOULD TAKE ME HERE.
1:55:21PM LIKEWISE, IF YOU NOTICE ON THIS, YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A
1:55:25PM QUICK LINK -- AND MAKE THIS BIGGER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE
1:55:30PM PUBLIC -- WE ALSO HAVE A DIRECT LINK HERE FOR CONTRACT
1:55:36PM ADMINISTRATION, SO YOU CAN GET TO THAT DEPARTMENT QUICKLY.
1:55:39PM NOW, WITH REGARD TO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, THEY DON'T
1:55:46PM DEAL WITH CONSTRUCTION, THEY DEAL WITH PURCHASING.
1:55:51PM AND THE TOOL THAT THEY USE PRIMARILY IS CALLED DEMANDSTAR.
1:55:57PM AND DEMANDSTAR IS A PLATFORM THAT YOU CAN GET TO
1:56:03PM INFORMATION, BUT IN ORDER TO DRILL DOWN FURTHER, AS IT'S
1:56:08PM PRESENTLY SET UP AND FOR MANY REASONS, SECURITY REASONS
1:56:11PM BEING ONE OF THEM, AND YOU CANNOT ACTUALLY GET TO
1:56:15PM NECESSARILY THE DOCUMENTS THAT WAY UNLESS YOU ARE REGISTERED
1:56:22PM AS A DEMANDSTAR USER.
1:56:25PM NOW MAYBE IT CAN BE SET UP, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A
1:56:28PM PLATFORM CALLED "GET ALL" THAT INTERNALLY THEY MAY BE ABLE
1:56:33PM TO GET THAT AND SET THAT UP WITH COUNCIL IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S
1:56:35PM INTEREST TO BE ABLE TO DRILL DOWN.
1:56:37PM OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS QUICK LINKS ON THE
1:56:43PM LEFT AND TO LEARN MORE ABOUT EVERY ONE OF THOSE LIVE LINKS
1:56:47PM PROVIDE YOU THE ABILITY FOR INFORMATION.

1:56:48PM AND YOU CAN GET, FOR INSTANCE, TO THE LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT TO
1:56:53PM FIND OUT WHAT THE LEGAL ADS ARE.
1:56:55PM BUT WITHIN THE RFPs, SOMETIMES IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE
1:56:59PM TO DRILL DOWN, AND IF YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET TO IT BY
1:57:02PM REGISTERING FOR DIRECT DEMANDSTAR AND IF IT'S COUNCIL'S
1:57:06PM PLEASURE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, COUNCIL CAN WORK WITH THE
1:57:09PM DEPARTMENT, WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDING
1:57:11PM FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE YOU ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
1:57:13PM SO LONG STORY SHORT, THERE IS INFORMATION ON THE CITY'S
1:57:16PM WEBSITE, BOTH COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC, TO BE ABLE TO TELL
1:57:20PM WHAT'S FORTH COME, SO YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO
1:57:23PM BE APPRISED OF INFORMATION BEFORE IT SHOWS UP ON THE CONSENT
1:57:26PM DOCKET OR BEFORE IT SHOWS UP UNDER STAFF REPORTS, AND ALSO,
1:57:30PM IF YOU WISH TO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR YOU HAVE
1:57:33PM ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I KNOW WE ARE RUNNING A LITTLE BIT
1:57:37PM LATE, HE DON'T WANT TO TAP UP ANY MORE TIME, BUT I SUGGEST
1:57:40PM IF IT COME UP IN THE FUTURE IF COUNCIL WANTS TO SET FORTH A
1:57:43PM WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS OF WHAT IT TAKES TO
1:57:46PM CREATE AN RFP, OR TO CREATE AN RFQ SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT GOES
1:57:51PM INTO THE PROCESS BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL, AND ALSO TO
1:57:54PM INFORM THE PUBLIC OF ADDITIONAL TOOLS THAT YOU MAY FEEL ARE
1:57:58PM NECESSARY, IF IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE WE CAN SCHEDULE A
1:58:02PM WORKSHOP IN THE FUTURE AND YOU CAN WORK WITH THE
1:58:03PM ADMINISTRATION AND INVITE THE DEVELOPMENTS TO BE ABLE TO
1:58:07PM APPRISE YOU FURTHER.

1:58:08PM THAT'S MY REPORT.
1:58:08PM THANK YOU.
1:58:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, IT WAS YOUR MOTION.
1:58:28PM
1:55:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, THIS WAS YOUR MOTION.
1:58:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY, FOR DOING SOME OF
1:58:18PM THE LEGWORK.
1:58:20PM A LOT OF QUESTIONS COMING UP ABOUT CONTRACTS THE LAST FOUR
1:58:23PM YEARS, THE RFPs.
1:58:25PM THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP HOW IS IT WRITTEN?
1:58:29PM HOW DOES IT COME BEFORE COUNCIL SENDING IT OUT?
1:58:35PM MAYBE GOING FORWARD, MAYBE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO A WORKSHOP SO
1:58:40PM COUNCIL IS AWARE OF HOW THAT PROCESS ACTUALLY WORKS.
1:58:43PM I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD TO HAVE, BECAUSE I THINK THE
1:58:46PM PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, TOO.
1:58:47PM AND MAYBE THE SITUATION THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST WITH
1:58:51PM THESE CONTRACTS OR WHY THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE HERE, THERE,
1:58:56PM WE MIGHT GET SOME ANSWERS BEFOREHAND INSTEAD OF AFTER HAND.
1:58:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE BROACHED THAT SUBJECT WITH THE
1:59:02PM ADMINISTRATION.
1:59:02PM SPEAKING WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, I
1:59:05PM BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATION IS AMENABLE TO DOING THAT.
1:59:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:59:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST, I KNOW THAT CHIEF OF STAFF HAS BEEN
1:59:17PM LOOKING AT THIS DEPARTMENT SINCE I FIRST HAD CONCERNS MAYBE

1:59:21PM FOUR YEARS AGO.
1:59:22PM AND NOW HE'S GOT BRAD BAIRD IN THERE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO
1:59:28PM TURN IT AROUND AND FIX IT.
1:59:30PM THE COMMUNITY HAS A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT CONTRACT
1:59:34PM ADMINISTRATION IN PARTICULAR.
1:59:37PM THE HIGH NUMBER OF NO-BID CONTRACTS AND WE'VE HAD
1:59:42PM PRESENTATIONS ON IT TWO OR THREE TIMES, AND THE
1:59:45PM PRESENTATIONS END UP EXPLAINING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOLE
1:59:49PM SOURCE AND SINGLE BID CONTRACTS VERSUS TALKING TO US ABOUT
1:59:52PM HOW TO END THEM.
1:59:53PM THE LAST TIME I COUNTED A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE HAD STILL ABOUT
1:59:57PM 15% SINGLE BID CONTRACTS.
2:00:00PM THERE ARE CERTAIN SITUATIONS WHERE ONE VENDOR IS THE ONLY
2:00:04PM ONE THAT MAKES A CERTAIN CHEMICAL AND WE CAN ONLY BUY FROM
2:00:08PM THEM.
2:00:08PM WHEN WE STARTED FOUR YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A PURCHASE OF HD
2:00:12PM CAMERAS FOR THE POLICE HELICOPTERS AND THE CRITERIA WAS SET
2:00:16PM FOR 30 MILES, AND THERE WAS A VENDOR IN ORLANDO THAT WAS 85
2:00:19PM MILES AWAY AND THEY DIDN'T QUALIFY, BUT THE VENDOR THAT DID
2:00:22PM QUALIFY WAS EXACTLY 30 MILES AWAY.
2:00:24PM AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE NEED TO END.
2:00:27PM IT LOOKS LIKE TARGETED RFP AND THE COMMUNITY IS VERY
2:00:32PM CONCERNED ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY WANT COMPETITIVENESS AND
2:00:34PM THEY WANT GOOD PRICING.
2:00:35PM SO SINGLE BID CONTRACTS ARE ONE THING.

2:00:42PM IN THE PAST THE COMMUNITY HAS COMPLAINED TO SAY IT SEEMS
2:00:46PM SOME RFPs ARE PUSHED OUT AND SOME AREN'T.
2:00:49PM I THINK THIS HAPPENED MORE IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION THAN
2:00:51PM THIS ONE.
2:00:53PM SIX YEARS AGO OR SO, THERE WAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT SOLD
2:00:55PM AND THEN SHORT TIME AFTER DEVELOPERS FLIPPED IT FOR 50 OR
2:01:00PM 100 PERCENT MORE.
2:01:01PM SO THAT'S IN REAL ESTATE.
2:01:02PM BUT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON ALL THAT.
2:01:06PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE RFPs ARE OPEN.
2:01:12PM BUT MY BIG CONCERN RELATED TO THIS -- THE COMPETITIVENESS IS
2:01:16PM A HUGE CONCERN.
2:01:17PM BUT THE SECOND CONCERN IS THAT CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO KNOW AT
2:01:24PM THE VERY LEAST WHEN A BIG RFP IS AWARDED AND THE SAME THING
2:01:27PM WITH THE OTHER THINGS, MAYBE OVER 20 MILLION OR OVER 50
2:01:31PM MILLION, BUT AN EXAMPLE, THE ROME YARD PROJECT WAS AWARDED.
2:01:35PM STAFF HAD SOME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WAS AWARDED.
2:01:38PM THERE WAS A PRESS CONFERENCE TO SAY THAT IT WAS AWARDED.
2:01:40PM THE FIRST TIME IT WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL WAS A YEAR
2:01:43PM LATER WHEN THE CONTRACT HAD BEEN NEGOTIATED.
2:01:46PM THERE WAS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WEIGH IN AT ALL.
2:01:49PM AND I WOULD SUGGEST AT THE VERY LEAST CONTRACTS OVER 50
2:01:53PM MILLION WHEN THE RFP IS AWARDED THAT STAFF WOULD EXPLAIN IT
2:01:58PM TO US BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.
2:02:00PM THAT ONE THERE WAS A LOT OF MEDIA COVERAGE.

2:02:02PM WE GOT QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC, DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER
2:02:05PM ANYTHING.
2:02:05PM SURE WE COULD TALK TO STAFF INDIVIDUALLY BUT IT WOULD BE
2:02:08PM BETTER TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY IN HOW TO DISCUSS IT.
2:02:10PM MAYBE THE THRESHOLD IS 20 MILLION INSTEAD OF 50, I DON'T
2:02:13PM KNOW.
2:02:13PM BUT THE OTHER THING IS ON BIG RFPs THAT ARE COMPLICATED,
2:02:19PM THE MORE THE STAFF BRIEFS US AND ESPECIALLY IF THEY BRIEF US
2:02:24PM PUBLICLY, THEN THE PUBLIC KNOWS, THE MORE THEY BRIEF US ON
2:02:27PM THE PROCESS THEY ARE USING, THE BETTER IT WILL BE.
2:02:29PM AND THEN THAT ROME YARD CASE AGAIN I THINK IT WOULD HAVE
2:02:33PM BENEFITED US ALL HAD THE STAFF DISCUSSED IT.
2:02:39PM SOME OF THE REALLY BIG CONTRACTS HAVE A LOT OF CONTROVERSY
2:02:42PM ATTACHED TO THEM.
2:02:44PM WHETHER THERE WAS ANYTHING BAD THAT HAPPENED OR NOT, THE
2:02:47PM MORE TRANSPARENCY WE PROVIDE BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER THE
2:02:51PM RFP PROCESS, THE BETTER IT IS FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND.
2:02:55PM AND IN THAT WAY WE PREVENT LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND SPECULATION
2:03:00PM AND EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
2:03:02PM SO THANK YOU.
2:03:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
2:03:05PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:03:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ON THAT NOTE, MR. CARLSON, BECAUSE
2:03:12PM SOMETIMES YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE RFPs, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S
2:03:16PM DRIVEN FOR A CERTAIN PARTICULAR PERSON TO GET THE CONTRACT

2:03:20PM AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE.
2:03:21PM AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING, THAT WHEN
2:03:25PM THEY ARE WRITTEN, WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL THE AFTEREFFECT.
2:03:30PM WE'RE THE CLEANUP GUYS THAT ASK QUESTIONS AFTER THE FACT
2:03:33PM VERSUS US SEEING UP FRONT WHAT DID YOU JUST PUT OUT TO THE
2:03:37PM PUBLIC OR HOW IS THIS CONTRACT TO MAKE SURE IT IS FAIR FOR
2:03:43PM EVERYONE TO BID ON IT?
2:03:44PM I THINK THAT'S THE KEY TO IT ALL.
2:03:48PM MAKING SURE THE PROCESS IS FAIR AND THAT WE LOOK AT AND SEE
2:03:52PM TO MAKE SURE THAT CERTAIN THINGS ARE NOT OMITTED THAT SHOULD
2:03:54PM BE IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS GETTING THE
2:03:56PM OPPORTUNITY TO BID.
2:04:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, THAT RAISES THE QUESTION THEN OF WHAT
2:04:04PM GOES INTO THE CREATION OF AN RFP OR RFQ.
2:04:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S WHAT I ASKED ABOUT THAT.
2:04:10PM I ASKED THAT.
2:04:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS A MORE COMPLICATED, LONGER PROCESS
2:04:19PM THAN, AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT WAS FOR ME ALSO A LEARNING
2:04:25PM EXPERIENCE ABOUT HOW THE ORGANIZATION DOES IT.
2:04:27PM OF COURSE, IN THE FRAMEWORK WE HAVE UNDER THE CHARTER, THE
2:04:31PM MAYOR NEGOTIATES THE CONTRACTS, THE MAYOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
2:04:33PM THAT.
2:04:34PM I THINK IT IS A WORTHY DISCUSSION, COUNCIL.
2:04:36PM I WOULD RECOMMEND IT.
2:04:37PM THE ADMINISTRATION, I THINK, WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF

2:04:39PM INFORMING COUNCIL ABOUT THAT PROCESS.
2:04:42PM AND IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS, THEN PERHAPS THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED
2:04:46PM IN SOME FORM OR FASHION WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE HAVE.
2:04:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE MAYOR
2:04:52PM NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS.
2:04:53PM BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS COUNCIL APPROVES THE
2:04:57PM CONTRACT, CORRECT?
2:04:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
2:04:59PM AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S AT THE END OF THE DAY.
2:05:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CORRECT.
2:05:03PM AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN NEGOTIATE, I STILL THINK THERE
2:05:07PM IS A PROCESS IN THERE BEFORE IT EVEN GETS TO US EVEN TALKING
2:05:10PM ABOUT APPROVING IT FOR US TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S IN THERE
2:05:13PM BECAUSE IT MAY BE A CONVERSATION TO TELL THE ADMINISTRATION,
2:05:15PM TAKE THAT BACK.
2:05:16PM IT NEEDS TO BE NEGOTIATED IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
2:05:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN HAVE WITH
2:05:23PM THE ADMINISTRATION.
2:05:24PM THAT IS A CONCERN BECAUSE ALSO THE THING -- I BELIEVE THERE
2:05:28PM WAS A COMMENT BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER THE RFP, BUT BEFORE
2:05:32PM THE RFP, THERE IS USUALLY A PREBID MEETING OR A MEETING THAT
2:05:38PM IS ACCESSIBLE THAT PEOPLE CAN FIND OUT THROUGH THE DEMAND
2:05:41PM STAR OR THROUGH THE WEBSITE BEFORE IT'S BROADCAST AND THEN
2:05:49PM MAYBE MARCY CAN HELP ABOUT THE PROCESS.
2:05:50PM BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONCE AN RFP IS SENT OUT, THERE

2:05:56PM ARE CERTAIN PARAMETERS IN TERMS OF NEGOTIATION.
2:05:59PM IT'S MEANT TO BE IDEALLY AND, OF COURSE, A LOT OF IT IS
2:06:03PM GOVERNED BY THE CCNA, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT.
2:06:06PM IT'S GOVERNED BY STATE STATUTE FOR THE PROCESS OF, LET'S
2:06:09PM SAY, ARCHITECTS AND THE LIKE AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS, BUT
2:06:14PM WITH REGARD TO CREATING A MEANS TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE AN RFP,
2:06:21PM AN RFQ, THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT, FRANKLY, RAISES SOME
2:06:26PM CONCERN FOR THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WHAT
2:06:30PM WE HAVE HERE IS WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT'S SET UP TO ACTUALLY
2:06:32PM BE SOMEWHAT HANDS OFF AND NOT SUBJECT TO PRESSURE I GUESS
2:06:39PM FROM POLITICAL PRESSURE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
2:06:42PM SO YOU ASK A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
2:06:44PM I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL'S CONCERNS, AND YOU HEAR THOSE FROM
2:06:48PM YOUR CONSTITUENTS, AND IF THAT'S A QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE
2:06:51PM DISCUSSED FURTHER, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT COUNCIL EITHER
2:06:56PM SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE OR WE CAN ASK
2:07:00PM FOR A STAFF REPORT OR WE CAN TALK -- I CAN CONTINUE THE
2:07:03PM DIALOGUE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.
2:07:05PM THE MEETING THAT I HAD WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CHIEF
2:07:08PM OF STAFF WERE PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE PROCESS.
2:07:13PM AND THE CONCERNS ABOUT INTERFERING -- NOT NECESSARILY
2:07:21PM CAUSING INTERFERENCE, BUT HAVING THE PROCESS FOLLOW THE
2:07:26PM NORMAL COURSE TO THE POINT WHERE ULTIMATELY THE DECISION TO
2:07:31PM BE MADE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN BY ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE
2:07:36PM CRITERIA THAT MAKES THEM THE BEST PERSON, THE BEST COMPANY

2:07:40PM SELECTED.
2:07:40PM SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCIL'S CONCERN IS.
2:07:42PM I DON'T KNOW HOW BEST TO RECOMMEND TO ADDRESS THAT EXCEPT
2:07:46PM FOR THE FACT THAT ONCE YOU SPEND TIME LEARNING OF WHAT THE
2:07:52PM PROCESS IS AND THEN YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT WHERE ALONG THE LINE
2:07:55PM YOU CAN INSERT COUNCIL'S OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT, THEN YOU CAN
2:08:02PM ACTUALLY TAKE MORE EFFECTIVE ACTION.
2:08:05PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IS, AGAIN, WITH REGARD
2:08:10PM PARTICULARLY TO THE CIP IS TO FIND OUT WHAT'S IN THE
2:08:13PM PIPELINE.
2:08:13PM WHAT'S GOING TO BE FORTHCOMING, AND WHAT THEN IS THE
2:08:16PM PROCESS?
2:08:16PM HOW DO YOU INTEND -- YOU CAN ASK THE ADMINISTRATION, HOW DO
2:08:19PM YOU INTEND TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT TO
2:08:22PM LEARN MORE?
2:08:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. SHELBY, I'M SURE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST
2:08:26PM TIME SOME CITY HAS HAD THIS KIND OF QUESTION OR CHALLENGE.
2:08:29PM THERE'S GOT TO BE A PROCESS OUT THERE THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS
2:08:33PM USING IN REFERENCE TO WHAT WE'RE ASKING OR LOOKING FOR.
2:08:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
2:08:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION
2:08:45PM -- I'M ASKING FOR YOUR, AS A CITY TO COME AND GIVE US FACTS
2:08:51PM OF WHAT IS OUT THERE.
2:08:52PM THE ADMINISTRATION CAN TELL US IT'S BLUE BUT ACTUALLY IT
2:08:55PM COULD BE GREEN.

2:08:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ME TO DO THEN IS
2:09:01PM TO DO A COMPARISON ABOUT HOW SIMILARLY SITUATED CITIES IN
2:09:05PM FLORIDA, LET'S SAY, DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES ADDRESS THE
2:09:09PM SAME KIND OF CONCERNS, PARTICULARLY WITH A STRONG MAYOR FORM
2:09:13PM OF GOVERNMENT.
2:09:14PM I USE THE TERM AN ELECTED MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
2:09:18PM IS THAT WHAT COUNCIL WISHES?
2:09:20PM IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, THAT IS THE DIRECTION I'LL
2:09:23PM TAKE.
2:09:23PM I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
2:09:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:09:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:09:32PM MR. SHELBY, THE REFERENCES THAT WERE MADE, TALKING JOHN Q.
2:09:40PM PUBLIC AND I SEE ADS IN THE ST. PETE, TAMPA BAY TIMES ON
2:09:43PM WEDNESDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
2:09:45PM THAT'S THE ONLY TWO DAYS THEY PRINT.
2:09:46PM I DON'T DO THE OTHERS.
2:09:48PM MONDAY, THE REST OF THE DAYS THEY DO ON THE COMPUTERS AND SO
2:09:54PM FORTH.
2:09:54PM BUT I SEE ADS THAT SAYS CITY OF TAMPA OR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
2:09:59PM OR ST. PETE OR CLEARWATER, AND THOSE ADS I GUESS ARE ASKING
2:10:06PM PEOPLE THAT THE CITY, THIS CITY AND OTHER CITIES ARE GOING
2:10:09PM TO HAVE A CERTAIN PROJECT THAT THEY NEED FROM POINT A TO
2:10:14PM POINT B, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE OR A BUILDING OR WHATEVER.
2:10:17PM AND THERE IS A REQUEST FOR RFQ, I GUESS THAT IS A REQUEST

2:10:27PM FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
2:10:28PM AND THEN A REQUEST FOR RFP.
2:10:31PM CAN YOU TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY ARE?
2:10:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONE IS A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND THE
2:10:34PM OTHER IS REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
2:10:36PM A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WOULD BE SOMETHING DONE THROUGH
2:10:38PM PURCHASING.
2:10:39PM PURCHASING DOES PRIMARILY RFPs.
2:10:41PM AND THAT'S FOR PURCHASING COMMODITIES AND THE LIKE.
2:10:44PM WHEREAS RFQs ARE SITUATIONS WHERE IT IS LOOKING FOR
2:10:50PM QUALIFIED APPLICANTS AND THOSE THEN GO TO A COMMITTEE AND
2:10:54PM THEN THOSE -- AGAIN, THAT IS THE WHOLE PROCESS.
2:10:57PM I'M GIVING YOU THE READER'S DIGEST VERSION, AND THOSE ARE
2:11:00PM RANKED AND THOSE ARE PRESENTED TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR A
2:11:05PM RECOMMENDATION.
2:11:05PM AND WHAT HAPPENS THEN, YES --
2:11:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THINKING A LITTLE BIT MORE.
2:11:12PM SO THEN ALL THESE CITIES, INCLUDING THIS ONE, YOU SAID THEY
2:11:15PM HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT REVIEWS THE APPLICANTS THAT APPLY.
2:11:20PM SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE IT GOES FOR PRICING, WHO HAS THE
2:11:24PM BEST PRICE.
2:11:24PM AM I CORRECT OR MAYBE I'M NOT CORRECT?
2:11:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO.
2:11:31PM I THINK MS. HAMILTON IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS
2:11:35PM THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

2:11:37PM NOT WITH CCNA ANYMORE.
2:11:38PM >> MARCIE HAMILTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
2:11:42PM THE RFP PROCESS, RFQ PROCESS, COST IS NOT NECESSARILY THE
2:11:47PM PRIMARILY REASON FOR AWARDING A BID.
2:11:49PM YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE ACTUAL FIRM,
2:11:54PM WHAT THEIR PAST WORK HAS BEEN.
2:11:56PM THERE ARE VARIOUS ASPECTS.
2:11:58PM WE ALSO DEAL WITH THE SUBCONTRACTORS, WHO THEY ARE, WHO THEY
2:12:03PM ARE WISHING TO BRING FORWARD TO BE PART OF THEIR CONTRACT AS
2:12:06PM A SUBCONTRACTOR UNDER THE PRIME.
2:12:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SURETY BOND OR
2:12:12PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
2:12:16PM >> PUBLIC WORKS, THERE ARE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.
2:12:18PM BONDING, PERFORMANCE AND PAYMENT BOND, BY LAW, PUBLIC
2:12:21PM INSTRUCTION BOND THAT INCORPORATES BOTH THE PERFORMANCE AND
2:12:25PM PAYMENT BONDS.
2:12:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY MIND GOES BACK A FEW MONTHS AGO, I
2:12:29PM BELIEVE WE HAD A CONTRACT FOR WHATEVER REASON HE OR SHE
2:12:32PM WHATEVER THE COMPANY WAS NOT DOING IT TO THE SPECIFICATIONS
2:12:35PM OF WHICH THEY TOOK THE JOB ON.
2:12:37PM I THINK ONE WAS IN SOUTH TAMPA IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE
2:12:42PM DISTRICT 6, IN THE NORTHERN PART OF DISTRICT 4, AND THE
2:12:46PM OTHER ONE WAS ARMENIA HEADING NORTH, WHEN YOU PASS WATER
2:12:51PM AVENUES, I REMEMBER GOING, WHAT HAPPENED HERE?
2:12:53PM I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS CLOSED.

2:12:56PM THAT COMPANY WAS OUT, RIGHT?
2:12:59PM >>MARCELLA HAMILTON: WE HAD TWO CONTRACTS WHERE THERE WERE
2:13:02PM DEFAULTS.
2:13:03PM ONE WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL AS THE TAKEOVER AGREEMENT AND
2:13:06PM WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THAT OUT.
2:13:09PM THE TAKEOVER AGREEMENT HAS BEEN EXECUTED.
2:13:13PM A SURETY WITH THAT.
2:13:17PM THERE WERE SOME ISSUES ON THAT.
2:13:19PM SO WE ARE NEGOTIATING OUT THE FINALS AS TO GETTING THE JOB
2:13:23PM COMPLETED.
2:13:24PM THE OTHER IS STILL IN THE WORKS FOR THE ARMENIA.
2:13:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE BONDING COMPANY THEN HAD TO TAKE OVER
2:13:32PM THE PROJECT, BUT IF I RECALL, WE COULDN'T TAKE OVER WHO WAS
2:13:37PM GOING TO DO THE FINISH WORK.
2:13:39PM THEY HAD TO GET THE COMPANY THAT THEY CHOOSE TO FINISH THE
2:13:41PM PROJECT.
2:13:41PM >>MARCELLA HAMILTON: CORRECT.
2:13:42PM CORRECT.
2:13:42PM ON THE TAKEOVER, THE BONDING, THE SURETY DOES THAT.
2:13:47PM AND QUITE RECENTLY, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ISSUES IN THAT
2:13:52PM REGARD.
2:13:53PM ON OUR PARTICULAR TAKEOVER AGREEMENT, IT MOST LIKELY IS
2:13:56PM GOING TO COME OUT TO BE MUCH MORE BENEFICIAL TO US AS THE
2:14:00PM CITY THAN OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE SUFFERED THE SAME
2:14:05PM CONSEQUENCES WITH THE SAME FIRM.

2:14:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLARITY THAT AS FAR
2:14:10PM AS I KNOW, MAYBE SOMEONE KNOWS SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW, WE'VE
2:14:14PM DONE EVERYTHING ACCORDING TO HOYLE AND HOYLE NEVER EXISTED.
2:14:18PM BUT THAT WAS THE NAME THAT CAME OUT.
2:14:20PM I DON'T KNOW.
2:14:20PM I LEARNED THAT IN SCHOOL SOMEWHERE.
2:14:22PM THEY SAID HOYLE AND IT STUCK WITH ME.
2:14:24PM I THOUGHT IT WAS HOYT WILLIAM.
2:14:27PM IT WAS HOYLE.
2:14:28PM WHO WAS NOT A BASEBALL PLAYER.
2:14:29PM I'VE SEEN THE THINGS THAT COME THROUGH AND I SEE -- SAME
2:14:35PM COMMITTEE ALL THE TIME OR DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE
2:14:37PM AT DIFFERENT TIMES?
2:14:39PM >>MARCELLA HAMILTON: THE CCNA COMMITTEE, IT DEPENDS UPON WHO
2:14:42PM THE END USER IS.
2:14:44PM IF IT'S WATER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WATER PERSONNEL.
2:14:46PM WE ALWAYS HAVE A MEMBER FROM EBO.
2:14:49PM THEY WILL BE ON THE COMMITTEE.
2:14:51PM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION PEOPLE, BUT ALWAYS THE END USERS,
2:14:56PM LIKE WATER, MOBILITY, WHATEVER.
2:14:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, IS THERE A
2:14:59PM RESPONSIBILITY TO REVIEW THE JOB AS IT'S GOING ON TO MAKE
2:15:03PM SURE IT'S DONE ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT?
2:15:06PM >>MARCELLA HAMILTON: YES, THERE WILL BE PROJECT MANAGERS.
2:15:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

2:15:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:15:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY SUM UP, MARTY, I'M JUST
2:15:18PM SPEAKING FOR MYSELF BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME IS
2:15:20PM NOT ABOUT THE INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL CAN GET.
2:15:24PM THOSE RESOURCES ARE GREAT.
2:15:25PM THERE'S LOTS OF INFORMATION ONLINE, BUT WE HAVE TO ANSWER
2:15:28PM THE PUBLIC, AND I THINK IT'S BEST FROM A TRANSPARENCY POINT
2:15:31PM OF VIEW TO HAVE SOME PRESENTATION OF THIS TO US IN A PUBLIC
2:15:36PM FORUM SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THAT WE'RE NOT HIDING
2:15:40PM ANYTHING.
2:15:41PM MOST CONTRACTS ARE NOT QUESTIONED, BUT THERE ARE ENOUGH THAT
2:15:43PM ARE QUESTIONED THAT THEY BECOME LEGEND IN THE COMMUNITY AND
2:15:47PM WE COULD AVOID ALL THAT IF WE PROVIDED SOME TRANSPARENCY.
2:15:51PM AN EXAMPLE I WOULD GIVE WOULD BE THE CONCESSION CONTRACT AT
2:15:56PM THE AIRPORT A FEW YEARS AGO.
2:16:02PM >> MICHAEL STEVENS.
2:16:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: SOMEBODY AT THE AIRPORT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO
2:16:05PM BE ANOTHER CITY THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE SOME GREAT IDEAS,
2:16:09PM BUT THAT WAS A PROCESS WHERE THEY SPLIT UP THE CONTRACT.
2:16:13PM THEY WIDELY PUBLICIZED IT.
2:16:17PM THEY HAD FORUMS ON IT.
2:16:18PM THE CEO, JOE LOPANO STAYED OUT OF THE PROCESS SO NO ONE
2:16:21PM WOULD ACCUSE HIM OF FAVORITISM.
2:16:23PM COMPARE THAT TO ATLANTA FOR FORMER AIRPORT DIRECTOR AND THE
2:16:27PM FBI JUMPED IN AND LOOKED AT IT OR COMPARE IT TO THE

2:16:31PM CONVENTION CENTER RFP HERE FOR CONCESSIONS THAT WAS LIKE SIX
2:16:34PM YEARS AGO WHERE THE FIRST TIME ANYBODY SAW IT WAS IN THE
2:16:37PM PAPER WHERE THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF ALLEGATIONS AGAINST IT.
2:16:42PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF WHAT'S
2:16:48PM HAPPENING THAT THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE HANDLED IN AN OPEN
2:16:51PM WAY AND NOT JUST A LEGAL WAY, BUT AN OPEN WAY THAT EVERYBODY
2:16:55PM CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
2:16:56PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS COMPETITIVE.
2:16:59PM PUTTING ON DEMAND STAR IS NOT ENOUGH.
2:17:01PM WHY IS IT THAT SOMETIMES SELLING LAND IN THE PAST ONLY HAD
2:17:05PM ONE BIDDER?
2:17:06PM HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?
2:17:08PM ONE OF THE CONTRACTS WE HAD WITHIN THE FIRST FEW MONTHS WE
2:17:10PM STARTED FOUR YEARS AGO WAS TO GIVE AWAY THREE LOTS AND ONLY
2:17:14PM ONE BIDDER TO PAY ZERO FOR IT.
2:17:16PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESS IS FAIR AND
2:17:20PM TRANSPARENT, THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE CRITERIA IS IN
2:17:22PM ADVANCE AND THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING IT.
2:17:26PM IF A CRITERIA IS THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO BE WITHIN 30 MILES AND
2:17:29PM IT TURNS OUT THAT THE WINNING BIDDER IS EXACTLY 30 MILES,
2:17:34PM THAT'S NOT A FAIR PROCESS.
2:17:35PM ALSO, I PROPOSED A PROCESS A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN WE WERE
2:17:40PM TALKING ABOUT CHARTER AMENDMENTS WHERE THE MAYOR COULD
2:17:43PM RECUSE HIM OR HERSELF AND EVEN IF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAYS
2:17:47PM THERE'S NOT AN ACTUAL CONFLICT, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA

2:17:51PM SOMETIMES FOR THE MAYOR OR CERTAIN ADMINISTRATORS TO RECUSE
2:17:53PM THEMSELVES.
2:17:53PM IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT'S PARTICIPATING IN ANY WAY
2:17:57PM WITH ANY COMPANY AROUND IT, I THINK JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO
2:18:00PM DISCLOSE IT AND HAND IN A FORM, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A
2:18:03PM PROCESS WHETHER IT IS AN ADMINISTRATOR, MAYOR, WHOMEVER,
2:18:05PM WHERE THEY WOULD PUBLICLY SAY FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC,
2:18:09PM I'M STAYING OUT OF THIS PROCESS.
2:18:11PM I'M NOT GOING TO BE INVOLVED AT ALL.
2:18:12PM I'M NOT GOING TO PUT MY FINGER ON THE SCALE.
2:18:15PM WE SET UP ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT WILL LOOK AT IT.
2:18:18PM NOBODY WILL PUT THEIR FINGER ON THE SCALE LATER.
2:18:20PM THAT WOULD HELP BECAUSE PEOPLE FIND OUT, THE MEDIA FINDS OUT
2:18:24PM AND SUDDENLY WE GET CALLS, THE SITUATION WE HAVE IS THAT THE
2:18:27PM PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING, WE DON'T ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY
2:18:30PM DON'T HAVE TIME TO RESEARCH ALL THE STUFF YOU JUST SHOWED.
2:18:33PM SUDDENLY WE GET CALLS FROM REPORTERS THAT PEOPLE, THE PUBLIC
2:18:36PM AND COMPETITORS FEEL BLINDSIDED.
2:18:39PM THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION IS OPEN-ENDED CONTRACTS.
2:18:42PM THE LAWYERS I SHOWED THE HANNA AVENUE CCNA OPINION DISAGREED
2:18:50PM WITH IT.
2:18:51PM BUT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY SITUATION WHERE A CONTRACT LASTS
2:18:58PM MORE THAN A FEW YEARS AND DEFINITELY THERE SHOULD BE NO
2:19:01PM SITUATION WHERE A CONTRACT GOES FROM 400,000 TO 121 MILLION.
2:19:05PM I UNDERSTAND THE REASONS WHY SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT,

2:19:08PM BUT THERE SHOULD NOT BE OPEN-ENDED CONTRACTS WHERE SOMEBODY
2:19:12PM IN A DEPARTMENT OR IN THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT
2:19:15PM CAN JUST PICK THE SAME FIRM OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
2:19:18PM THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF PUBLIC PROCESS THAT BRINGS
2:19:23PM EVERYTHING BACK UP.
2:19:24PM THANK YOU.
2:19:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
2:19:26PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, THIS WAS YOUR MOTION, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE
2:19:32PM ANY OTHER TYPES OF MOTIONS?
2:19:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: NO.
2:19:35PM I'M GOOD.
2:19:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. ZELMAN.
2:19:39PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS.
2:19:41PM I DO THINK MARTY'S SUGGESTION -- YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS
2:19:45PM WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH MARTY IS WHEN WE START THE NEW
2:19:50PM TERM, HAVING AN ORIENTATION SESSION, WHICH I THINK WILL BE
2:19:53PM HELPFUL BOTH FOR ANY NEW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL BUT ALSO THE
2:19:57PM RETURNING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
2:19:58PM AND I DO THINK IT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR ME, FOR INSTANCE, TO
2:20:03PM HEAR GREG SPEARMAN'S PRESENTATION, WHICH WE ASKED HIM TO DO
2:20:06PM FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON HOW THE PURCHASING PROCESS
2:20:09PM WORKS.
2:20:10PM SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR COUNCIL.
2:20:13PM BUT JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
2:20:17PM ONE OF YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN

2:20:20PM OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN.
2:20:21PM MARCIE IS THE EXPERT, NOT ME, BUT THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING,
2:20:29PM ALL THE PURCHASING PROCESSES THAT ARE GOVERNED BY STATUTE
2:20:33PM AND GOVERNED BY CITY CODE ARE ALL DESIGNED TO KEEP THE
2:20:39PM POLITICIANS OUT OF IT AND TO KEEP THE POLITICS OUT OF IT.
2:20:42PM REALLY, THE WHOLE DESIGN OF THE PROCESS IS TO NOT HAVE THE
2:20:47PM PARTIES WEIGHING IN.
2:20:49PM SO TO MAKE IT AS FAIR AS POSSIBLE.
2:20:54PM THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT SINGLE BIDS OR WHERE WE ONLY
2:20:57PM GET ONE BIDDER, KEEP IN MIND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE
2:21:02PM CITY CAN AVOID, LIKE HAVING INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, BONDING
2:21:06PM REQUIREMENTS, WHATEVER, IS GOING TO CUT SOME PEOPLE OUT.
2:21:09PM ALSO, EVERY TIME WE ADD THINGS TO OUR CODE LIKE EBO, SMALL
2:21:16PM BUSINESS, PREFERENCE FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES, APPRENTICESHIP
2:21:21PM REQUIREMENTS, HIRING FORMER IMPRISONED PEOPLE.
2:21:27PM SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OVER THE YEARS,
2:21:29PM KIND OF THE SOCIAL JUSTICE THINGS THAT WE ADD INTO OUR
2:21:32PM CONTRACTING PROCESS, UNFORTUNATELY, ONE OF THE SIDE EFFECTS
2:21:36PM OF THAT IS IT CAN SHRINK THE POOL OF PEOPLE WHO THEN WANT TO
2:21:40PM CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.
2:21:42PM IT'S AN INEVITABLY.
2:21:44PM WE HAVE TO WEIGH THE PROS AND CONS OF ALL OF THAT.
2:21:47PM I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL.
2:21:48PM I JUST WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE OF THAT.
2:21:51PM AND THEN THERE WAS ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE MAYOR RECUSING

2:21:55PM HERSELF.
2:21:57PM AGAIN, THE MAYOR IS NOT INVOLVED IN THESE PROCESSES.
2:22:00PM UNTIL AFTER AN RFP OR RFQ OR CCNA RANKINGS ARE GIVEN TO HER,
2:22:09PM IN THAT CASE MY UNDERSTANDING IS SHE MAKES THE FINAL
2:22:12PM SELECTION IN THAT CCNA WORLD, WHICH IS LIMITED TO I BELIEVE
2:22:17PM ARCHITECTS, LAWYERS, ENGINEERS AND ONE OTHER KIND OF
2:22:20PM CONTRACT.
2:22:21PM BUT BASICALLY, AGAIN, SHE DOESN'T GET TO PUT HER FINGER ON
2:22:26PM THE THUMB DURING THE PROCESS EITHER.
2:22:28PM AGAIN, ALL THESE IN-GOVERNMENT WORLD THAT THE PURCHASING AND
2:22:36PM RFP, RFQ PROCESSES ARE PARTICULARLY DESIGNED THAT WAY TO
2:22:40PM KEEP THE POLITICIANS OUT OF IT, TO KEEP THE ELECTED
2:22:44PM OFFICIALS OUT OF IT, TO KEEP ANYONE FROM PLAYING FAVORITES.
2:22:48PM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE GENERAL COMMENTS.
2:22:50PM BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AT SOME POINT IN
2:22:55PM TIME TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP ITEM JUST TO GIVE EVERYONE AN
2:22:59PM OVERVIEW OF HOW THESE PROCESSES WORK.
2:23:02PM SO YOU ALL HEAR ABOUT IT AFTER THE FACT.
2:23:04PM IT'S GOOD TO KNOW HOW THE PROCESS WORKS FOR ALL OF US.
2:23:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:23:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST IF WE DO THAT, MY REQUEST WOULD BE THAT
2:23:16PM WE NOT GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS OF HOW THE PROCESS WORKS,
2:23:19PM JUST IF WE COULD FOCUS ON HOW IT'S OPEN AND COMPETITIVE AND
2:23:22PM FAIR AND TRANSPARENT.
2:23:26PM THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC REALLY CARES ABOUT.

2:23:28PM AND THEN IF YOU HAVE PART B, WHICH IS GOING INTO THE
2:23:33PM MINUTIA, THEN WHOEVER WANTS TO OPT IN CAN.
2:23:37PM YOU MENTIONED HAVING MR. SPEARMAN COME, AFTER I FIRST RAISED
2:23:40PM QUESTIONS FOUR YEARS AGO ABOUT PURCHASING, HE BROUGHT ME
2:23:44PM INTO HIS DEPARTMENT RIGHT AWAY.
2:23:46PM HE SAID, OKAY, TELL ME THE CONCERNS YOU HAVE.
2:23:48PM I WENT THROUGH ALL THE CASES PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN ME OVER THE
2:23:51PM PRIOR YEARS, AND ALL OF THEM WERE IN EITHER CONTRACT
2:23:54PM ADMINISTRATION OR REAL ESTATE.
2:23:55PM AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T JUST LOOK AT
2:24:00PM PURCHASING THAT WE ALSO LOOK AT CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
2:24:01PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NO, IN FACT, I THINK MOST OF THE PROJECTS
2:24:04PM THAT THE COUNCIL TENDS TO CARE ABOUT ARE IN THAT CAD WORLD.
2:24:09PM BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE BIG-TICKET CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, THEY
2:24:12PM ARE IN THE CAD WORLD AND NOT THE PURCHASING WORLD.
2:24:16PM IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO REALIZE AND I THINK THAT IS THE TYPE
2:24:18PM OF THING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AGAIN FOR ALL OF COUNCIL, TO
2:24:21PM JUST KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHO DOES WHAT AND HOW DIFFERENT
2:24:24PM THINGS ARE DONE.
2:24:25PM ONE FINAL THING THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT MARTY MENTIONED IS
2:24:30PM THAT ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT ONCE A REQUEST FOR
2:24:34PM PROPOSAL OR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS IS ISSUED AND, AGAIN,
2:24:38PM THIS IS STATUTORILY REQUIRED, YOU HAVE WHAT IS CALLED THE
2:24:42PM CONE OF SILENCE, WHICH UNLIKE THE CONE OF SILENCE THAT THE
2:24:46PM TWO OF US WHO ARE OLD ENOUGH REMEMBER GET SMART WOULD

2:24:49PM REMEMBER, WHICH WAS A JOKE, IT IS A VERY, VERY, VERY SERIOUS
2:24:54PM THING, AND IF ANY BIDDER OR PERSON SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL
2:24:59PM VIOLATES IT, THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED.
2:25:05PM THE WAY THAT THE CONE OF SILENCE WORKS AND MARCIE CAN
2:25:10PM CORRECT ME IF I'M SAYING IT WRONG, ONCE IT'S IN VOTE, THE
2:25:15PM BIDDER, THE COMPANIES SEEKING THE WORK ARE GIVEN ONE POINT
2:25:19PM OF CONTACT AT THE CITY THAT THEY CAN TALK TO, AND THEY CAN
2:25:23PM TALK TO NO ONE ELSE.
2:25:24PM FOR INSTANCE, IF A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WERE TO TALK TO A
2:25:27PM BIDDER ABOUT THEIR PROPOSAL, THAT COULD DISQUALIFY THAT
2:25:31PM BIDDER.
2:25:31PM IT'S VERY SERIOUS, AND WE NEED TO, YES, WE WANT
2:25:35PM TRANSPARENCY, BUT THERE IS ALSO A PERIOD DURING WHICH YOU
2:25:40PM CAN'T VIOLATE THAT CONE OF SILENCE.
2:25:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO FINISH AND ON THAT POINT, I THINK
2:25:47PM MAYBE MARCIE AND MARTY CAN HELP US WITH SOME ADVICE BEFORE
2:25:52PM ALSO.
2:25:53PM NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE NEED TO BE PARTICULARLY CAREFUL ALSO
2:25:56PM ABOUT PEOPLE THAT APPROACH US IN ADVANCE OF AN RFP.
2:26:00PM WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER WHO IS CHOSEN.
2:26:02PM BUT WHEN ANYBODY TRIES TO APPROACH ME AND SAYS THERE IS AN
2:26:07PM RFP COMING UP, EVEN IF IT'S NOT FILED, I SAY I DON'T WANT TO
2:26:13PM TALK ABOUT IT.
2:26:13PM I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR MAYOR, BUT IF A MAYOR
2:26:16PM HAS, FOR EXAMPLE, A FAMILY MEMBER INVOLVED WITH A COMPANY

2:26:18PM WHO IS GETTING A CONTRACT, EVEN IF THE MAYOR IS NOT ON THE
2:26:22PM SELECTION COMMITTEE, I THINK THAT A MAYOR -- I THINK THERE
2:26:26PM SHOULD BE A PROCESS FOR A MAYOR TO RECUSE THEMSELVES BECAUSE
2:26:28PM IF THEY END UP SIGNING THE DOCUMENTS AND HOLDING A PRESS
2:26:32PM CONFERENCE ON IT, IT CREATES A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR US AND
2:26:35PM THE COMMUNITY.
2:26:36PM AND IT WOULD BE BETTER IF A MAYOR SAID, HEY, I'VE GOT A
2:26:40PM FAMILY MEMBER THAT WORKS THERE AND AS A RESULT OF THAT I'M
2:26:42PM GOING TO STEP BACK AND NOT PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
2:26:45PM I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT AND LET CHIEF OF
2:26:47PM STAFF OR THE CHAIR OF THE CITY COUNCIL OR SOMEBODY DO IT.
2:26:50PM THAT'S IT.
2:26:51PM THANK YOU.
2:26:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARCIE, IF YOU CAN, FOLLOW UP.
2:27:01PM YOU RAISED A VERY GOOD POINT.
2:27:03PM IT'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON.
2:27:05PM IT'S NOT JUST ONE CONTACT PERSON.
2:27:05PM BUT THERE IS ALSO THE LEGAL CONTACT PERSON.
2:27:06PM >>MARCELLA HAMILTON: RIGHT, ACCORDING TO OUR ORDINANCE, IT
2:27:09PM CAN BE WHOEVER THE SOLICITING DEPARTMENT IS, CONTRACT
2:27:11PM ADMINISTRATION, PURCHASING, THE DIRECTOR, LEGAL, OR WHOEVER
2:27:15PM THE PARTICULAR FACILITATOR IS WITHIN THE DOCUMENT, THE
2:27:20PM SOLICITATION ITSELF.
2:27:21PM I THINK ONE OTHER THING ABOUT OPEN AND FAIR, ALL OF THESE
2:27:26PM MEETINGS, THE PRE-PROPOSAL CONFERENCES, THE PRESENTATIONS

2:27:30PM FOR CCNA, THEY ARE ALL OPEN MEETINGS, AND THEY ARE NOTICED.
2:27:35PM ANYONE CAN ATTEND THOSE.
2:27:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO TRANSPARENCY, MAYBE THAT'S
2:27:40PM ONE THING THAT WE CAN WORK ON WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO
2:27:42PM IMPROVE THE WEBSITE TO MAKE SUCH THINGS EASIER TO ACCESS AND
2:27:48PM HAVE THEM GROUPED TOGETHER SO THAT THE MESSAGE I HEAR IS
2:27:50PM WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO SEE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IS A PROCESS
2:27:55PM WHERE EVERYTHING IS OPEN, COMPETITIVE, FAIR, AND
2:27:58PM TRANSPARENT.
2:27:59PM AND I'M GLAD MARCIE MENTIONED, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO
2:28:03PM MENTION AS WELL, THE FACT THAT THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND
2:28:05PM COMMITTEE RANKINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
2:28:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:28:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG THE PROCESS OF TRANSPARENCY AND
2:28:16PM GETTING THE MEETINGS OUT, DON'T THAT COMMITTEE GRADE ALL THE
2:28:21PM DIFFERENT COMPANIES, BY POINTS AND AT THE END THEY SHOW YOU
2:28:25PM THE SCORE OF EVERY ONE.
2:28:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARCIE CAN SPEAK ABOUT THE COMMITTEE
2:28:30PM RANKINGS.
2:28:31PM >>MARCELLA HAMILTON: THE COMMITTEE RANKINGS, THEY ARE
2:28:34PM AVAILABLE IN THE DOCUMENTATION.
2:28:35PM PEOPLE DO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS FOR THOSE.
2:28:38PM THE RANKINGS ARE AVAILABLE.
2:28:39PM AND WHOEVER IS TOP RANKED, THEY ARE THE FIRST SELECTION TO
2:28:43PM SEND TO THE MAYOR.

2:28:45PM USUALLY FOR THE PRESENTATIONS, THERE IS A RANKING AND THEN
2:28:48PM PRESENTATIONS.
2:28:49PM THIS IS FOR CCNA.
2:28:51PM THERE ARE PRESENTATIONS, AND DEPENDING UPON WHAT THE
2:28:54PM RANKINGS ARE, AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS, THEY'LL HAVE THREE
2:28:59PM THAT THEY WILL LIST TO GO TO THE MAYOR AND USUALLY IT IS THE
2:29:03PM FIRST RANKING THAT SHE WILL SAY GO FORWARD AND NEGOTIATE A
2:29:07PM CONTRACT.
2:29:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND, BY THE WAY, COUNCIL HAS TAKEN ACTION
2:29:12PM AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS COMING BACK TO COUNCIL AGAIN
2:29:15PM WITH THAT $20 MILLION THRESHOLD REQUIRING IT TO APPEAR ON
2:29:19PM THE AGENDA TO A MEETING PRIOR TO WHEN COUNCIL HAS TO VOTE ON
2:29:23PM IT.
2:29:23PM I THINK THAT ALSO GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY.
2:29:25PM AS I RECALL IN THE PAST, AND I'M ACTING FROM MY MEMORY, BUT
2:29:31PM I BELIEVE THERE WAS A TIME THAT COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL IN
2:29:36PM THE BACKUP DID HAVE MORE MATERIAL IN THE BACKUP WITH REGARD
2:29:40PM TO CONTRACTS.
2:29:41PM FOR INSTANCE, THE RANKINGS, THE SCORING SHEETS.
2:29:44PM I DON'T KNOW -- AT SOME POINT I RECALL SEEING THOSE.
2:29:50PM EVEN WITH REAL ESTATE, PREVIOUS COUNCIL MADE THE REQUEST TO
2:29:53PM HAVE -- I'M AT A LOSS FOR WORDS -- THE APPRAISAL FOR THE
2:30:04PM PROPERTY TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP BECAUSE WE HAD ONE
2:30:07PM PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEMBER AND MADE THE MOTION TO HAVE THE
2:30:10PM APPRAISALS BE INCLUDED WHEN THERE WAS A CONTRACT FOR SALE AS

2:30:13PM WELL.
2:30:14PM THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
2:30:15PM I UNDERSTAND THE MESSAGE THAT I HEAR FROM COUNCIL IS THAT
2:30:18PM THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A PROCESS.
2:30:19PM AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND HAVING IT OPEN.
2:30:23PM WITH REGARD TO THAT, PERHAPS THERE ARE WAYS WE CAN IMPROVE
2:30:27PM GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO COUNCIL AND GETTING IT TO THE
2:30:29PM PUBLIC WILL ASSIST YOU.
2:30:30PM THIS IS ALL A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION.
2:30:34PM I WILL FOLLOW UP.
2:30:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO
2:30:39PM DO ON THIS?
2:30:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT'S IT.
2:30:42PM HE SAYS HE WILL LOOK INTO IT.
2:30:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
2:30:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
2:30:47PM INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
2:30:56PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:30:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE ONE.
2:30:59PM I THINK I SAID IT EARLIER BUT DIDN'T PUT IT IN THE PROPER
2:31:02PM FORUM.
2:31:02PM APRIL 14 CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE MET AND PASSED A
2:31:08PM MOTION TO REQUEST THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL INVITE THE
2:31:11PM COMMITTEE TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL ON JUNE THE 22nd.
2:31:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

2:31:17PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:31:18PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:31:19PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:31:20PM THE MOTION PASSES.
2:31:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE OTHER THING, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
2:31:25PM TO THE TWO GENTLEMEN WHO WERE TO MY RIGHT THAT HAVE SERVED
2:31:30PM THE CITY FOR FOUR YEARS.
2:31:31PM I ENJOYED WORKING WITH BOTH OF YOU AND I LEARNED SOME FROM
2:31:36PM YOU AND I HOPE YOU LEARNED SOME FROM US.
2:31:39PM REMEMBER MY OLD SAYING, I HAVE NEVER LOST AN ELECTION.
2:31:42PM I JUST NEVER GOT ENOUGH VOTES.
2:31:44PM SO YOU GO THROUGH LIFE THAT WAY AND YOU NEVER GET MAD AT
2:31:48PM YOURSELF.
2:31:48PM AND I'VE LOST ELECTIONS.
2:31:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:31:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: DID THE POLICE OFFICER LEAVE?
2:32:00PM >> I THINK HE'S STILL OUTSIDE.
2:32:01PM NO, HE'S NOT.
2:32:02PM HE'S HERE.
2:32:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GENTLEMEN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO
2:32:14PM AMARE.
2:32:15PM LIKE TO GIVE HIM A COMMENDATION, AMARE ELMORE.
2:32:19PM NEXT WEEK WILL BE HIS LAST DAY AT CITY COUNCIL.
2:32:22PM HE WILL BE RETIRING.
2:32:24PM I KNOW WHAT THAT DAY FEELS LIKE WHEN IT GETS NEAR.

2:32:27PM I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU WAKE UP THE NEXT MORNING
2:32:31PM THINKING YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO WORK, WHERE IS MY CAR, MY
2:32:34PM BADGE, AND MY GUN.
2:32:36PM SO I KNOW WHAT THAT FEELING IS LIKE.
2:32:38PM IT'S A GREAT FEELING.
2:32:41PM FOR ME, WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I WANT
2:32:44PM TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT RECOGNIZED IN A PROPER WAY AND GET
2:32:49PM YOU A COMMENDATION FOR NEXT WEEK.
2:32:51PM IT'S WELL DESERVED.
2:32:53PM YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR US.
2:32:56PM AGAIN, RETIRING, SERVED SINCE MAY 2000.
2:33:03PM 23 YEARS OF SERVICE, 17 YEARS ON THE S.W.A.T. TEAM AND TO BE
2:33:08PM GIVEN ON APRIL 27, 2023.
2:33:11PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:33:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:33:13PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:33:15PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:33:16PM ANY IN OPPOSITION?
2:33:17PM THE MOTION PASSES.
2:33:19PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:33:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOTHING.
2:33:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTHING.
2:33:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY HAVE STAFF RETURN TO US ON MAY 18th
2:33:31PM FOR THOSE -- THE CUP PEOPLE THAT WE HEARD FROM TODAY.
2:33:40PM WHAT DOES IT STAND FOR?

2:33:44PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
2:33:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: COFFEE UNITING PEOPLE FOR STAFF COME BACK
2:33:48PM REPORTING ON HAVING SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO SELL
2:33:51PM COFFEE ON CITY PREMISES, MAYBE AT THE COURTYARD, ONCE A
2:33:55PM MONTH.
2:33:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:33:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:34:00PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:34:02PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:34:03PM MOTION PASSES.
2:34:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
2:34:06PM THANK YOU.
2:34:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:34:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: THREE QUICK THINGS.
2:34:13PM JACK HARRIS HAS BEEN POSTING ONLINE.
2:34:16PM HAVE YOU ALL SEEN THIS?
2:34:17PM HE'S POSTING THAT HE WANTS A HALL OF FAME.
2:34:19PM HE WANTS CITY COUNCIL TO DO SOMETHING.
2:34:22PM WALK OF FAME.
2:34:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HE'S BEEN ASKING FOR THAT FOR YEARS BUT
2:34:25PM THERE'S BEEN NO PLACE TO PUT IT.
2:34:27PM I RECOMMENDED TO HIM WHEN THE WEST RIVER WALK OPENS UP THAT
2:34:31PM WOULD BE PERFECT.
2:34:32PM GO AHEAD.
2:34:33PM I'M SORRY.

2:34:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FUN TO INVITE HIM.
2:34:36PM I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S AVAILABLE BUT FUN TO INVITE HIM ON JUNE
2:34:38PM 1st.
2:34:39PM WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT, JUST TO PRESENT FOR FIVE MINUTES.
2:34:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
2:34:50PM BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:34:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:34:53PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:34:53PM MOTION PASSES.
2:34:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS WHILE THIS
2:34:58PM COUNCIL IS STILL HERE.
2:34:59PM TWICE BEFORE I PRESENTED THE TAMPA SCORECARD NUMBERS IN A
2:35:03PM TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION.
2:35:04PM IT'S TAKEN A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET THE NEW NUMBERS, BUT IT
2:35:07PM WILL BE A NEW COUNCIL, BUT I'D APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO
2:35:12PM SPEAK FOR TEN MINUTES, UP TO TEN MINUTES ABOUT THE TAMPA
2:35:15PM SCORECARD ON JUNE 22nd.
2:35:18PM I WILL BRING -- I MAY BRING A USF ECONOMIST.
2:35:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:35:30PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:35:32PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:35:33PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:35:34PM MOTION PASSES.
2:35:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE LAST THING IS I UNDERSTAND THAT CHUCK
2:35:40PM WEBER IS LEAVING.

2:35:43PM I DON'T KNOW WHEN HE'S LEAVING EXACTLY.
2:35:45PM BUT I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE HIM SOME KIND OF COMMENDATION FOR
2:35:48PM HIS YEARS.
2:35:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HE'S GOING TO KISSIMMEE.
2:35:58PM HIS WIFE ALSO WORKS IN THE SAME KIND OF BUSINESS, PINELLAS
2:36:02PM COUNTY.
2:36:03PM THE DRIVE WAS 30, 40 MILES A DAY ROUND TRIP OR 50 MILES
2:36:07PM SOMETIMES.
2:36:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: I LEFT HIM A NOTE.
2:36:09PM I WAS ESPECIALLY TOUGH ON HIM IN THE BEGINNING.
2:36:11PM I FOUND IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO HE WAS VERY COLLABORATIVE
2:36:14PM AND VERY FOCUSED ON WATER QUALITY AND THE AREAS WE DISAGREED
2:36:20PM WITH THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS --
2:36:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GREAT LOSS.
2:36:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IS THE DATE?
2:36:25PM WE CAN'T DO IT NEXT THURSDAY, CAN WE?
2:36:30PM >> MAY 4th.
2:36:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK THE BEGINNING OF MAY.
2:36:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF HE'S NOT AVAILABLE, SOMEBODY CAN GIVE IT
2:36:39PM TO HIM REMOTELY.
2:36:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:36:43PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:36:44PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:36:45PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION?
2:36:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

2:36:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
2:36:53PM MANISCALCO.
2:36:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:36:55PM WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE'RE ADJOURNED.
2:36:58PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
2:36:58PM
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