TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 20, 2023
9:00 A.M.

DISCLAIMER:
THIS FILE REPRESENTS AN UNEDITED VERSION OF REALTIME
CAPTIONING WHICH SHOULD NEITHER BE RELIED UPON FOR COMPLETE
ACCURACY NOR USED AS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT.
ANY PERSON WHO NEEDS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF THE
PROCEEDINGS MAY NEED TO HIRE A COURT REPORTER.

09:01:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GOOD MORNING!
WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HELD THIS DAY ON APRIL 20,
2023.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE INVOCATION.
09:02:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, GOOD MORNING.
NICOLE ABDNOUR FROM PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH IN SOUTH TAMPA.
AND SHE IS A NATIVE OF FLORIDA.
GRADUATED WITH A BACHELOR IN ENGLISH FROM STETSON UNIVERSITY
AND A MASTER OF DIVINITY, MASTER OF ARTS IN CHRISTIAN
EDUCATION FROM UNION PRESBYTERIAN SEMINARY IN RICHMOND AND
RECENTLY GOT A DOCK FOR RAT OF MINISTRY IN EMORY.
NICOLE WAS ORDAINED AS A TEACHING ELDER AND WORD OF
SACRAMENT IN 2003 AND SERVED AS ASSOCIATE PASTOR FOR
CHRISTIAN EDUCATION AT ST. CHARLES PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH IN
NEW ORLEANS FOR TWO YEARS PRIOR TO COMING TO PALMA CEIA
PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH WHERE HER MINISTRY FOCUSED ON PASTORAL
CARE.
SINCE MOVING TO TAMPA MET AND MARRIED CHRISTOPHER ABNOR.
THEY HAVE THREE CHILDREN.
WHEN NOT AT CHURCH, THEY CAN BE SEEN BIKING TO DAIRY JOY
WHICH A LOT OF US HAVE GONE THROUGH IN BETWEEN HOLDING SIGNS
ACROSS THE STREET.
BUT THANK YOU.
YOUR CHURCH HAS A GREAT REPUTATION AND GROWING FAST.
AND IT IS A REAL HIGHLIGHT OF THE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING THIS MORNING.
09:03:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE RISE.
09:03:31AM >> HOLY ONE, KNOWN BY MANY TIMES AND BEYOND ALL NAMES, WE
THANK YOU FOR THE GIFTS, OPPORTUNITIES AND BEAUTIES THIS
DAY.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF COMMUNITY AND ASK YOUR BLESSING
TO BE UPON THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE COMMUNITIES WITHIN
WHICH WE LIVE.
HELP US ALL TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE VAST RESOURCES OF
THIS CORNER OF THE EARTH.
MAY HONEST INDUSTRY AND SOUND LEARNING MARK OUR COMMUNAL
LIFE THAT TOGETHER WE WILL BE A PUBLIC WITNESS OF THE VALUE
AND TREASURE FOUND IN COMMUNITY.
SAVE US FROM VIOLENCE, DISCORD AND CONFUSION, FROM PRIDE AND
ARROGANCE AND FROM EVERY EVIL WAY.
AS THIS COUNCIL BEGINS THEIR BUSINESS, WE STOP AND PRAY FOR
THOSE WHO HOLD OFFICE IN THE GOVERNMENT OF THIS CITY THAT
THEY MAY DO THEIR WORK IN A SPIRIT OF WISDOM, KINDNESS, AND
JUSTICE.
HELP THEM TO USE THEIR AUTHORITY TO SERVE FAITHFULLY AND TO
PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE OF THE PEOPLE.
INFUSE THE COUNCIL WITH PASSION AND IMAGINATION AND GIVE TO
THEM THE WISDOM TO BALANCE COMPASSION AND CHALLENGE.
GUIDE EACH OF US, OH GOD, TO BE GOOD CITIZENS OF THIS CITY
AND NATION HELPING US TO RESPECT NEIGHBORS WHOSE VIEWS
DIFFER FROM OURS WITHOUT PARTISAN ANGER WE MAY WORK OUT
ISSUE THAT DIVIDE US IN ORDER TO SOLVE THE COMMON GOOD.
GLORY BE TO THE ONE CALL TO JUSTICE ALWAYS STANDS AND PRAISE
BE TO THE ONE WHOSE LOVE IS STEADFAST, AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:05:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ROLL CALL PLEASE.
09:05:18AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
09:05:22AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
09:05:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
09:05:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
09:05:25AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
HERE.
09:05:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
09:05:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I'M HERE AS WELL.
09:05:28AM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:05:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMEMBERS, IF YOU PLEASE INDULGE ME FOR
JUST A FEW MINUTES.
MISS MOLLY BIEBEL.
WE HAVE -- MOST OF YOU KNOW MISS BIEBEL FROM THE MAYOR'S
YOUTH CORPS.
SHE IS NOT HERE REPRESENTING THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORP BUT
WEARING A DIFFERENT HAT.
SHE ASKED COUNCIL IF YOU WOULD NOT MIND THE STUDENTS OF
SUNLAKE ACADEMY OF MATH AND SCIENCE TO BE HERE TO FIND OUT
MORE ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND SEE WHAT WE DO HERE AT CITY
COUNCIL.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, COUNCILMEMBERS, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THEM
COME UP, INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND TELL US WHAT GRADE THEY
ARE IN.
MISS BIEBEL.
MR. GUDES, ARE WE COOL?
09:06:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN, YES.
THIS IS YOUR SHOW.
09:06:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
09:06:26AM >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CITRO.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
I WILL NOT TAKE ANY MORE TIME AND LET THE STUDENTS COME UP
AND SPEAK TO THEMSELVES.
I WILL PASS IT OFF TO THEIR TEACHER.
09:06:36AM >> I AM MATTHEW HALER, A MIDDLE SCHOOL SOCIAL STUDIES
TEACHER AND I RUN THE STUDENT GOVERNMENT FOR SUNLAKE
ACADEMY.
I AM A LITTLE BIASED.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE SMARTEST GROUP OF KIDS YOU WILL SEE IN
ALL OF MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THE U.S., BUT I THINK YOU SHOULD GET
TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEM.
COME UP AND SAY YOUR NAME AND GRADE.
09:06:56AM >> HI, SHRIA, AND I AM IN 8th GRADE.
09:07:00AM >> HI, I AM LILA, AND I AM IN 6th GRADE.
09:07:06AM >> HI, I AM CANDACE FERNANDEZ AND I AM IN 6th GRADE.
09:07:14AM >> HELLO ,ASHAN, AND I AM IN 7th GRADE.
09:07:19AM >> HI, I AM SIENNA, AND I AM 7th GRADE.
09:07:23AM >> HI, I AM ANGELIQUE COOK, AND I AM IN 7th GRADE.
09:07:28AM >> ARLENE CARPENTER IN 7th GRADE.
09:07:33AM >> I AM SIENNA, AND I AM IN 7th GRADE.
09:07:36AM >> HI, ISLA AND I AM IN 7thth GRADE.
09:07:41AM >> I AM CLAUDIA BERGEN AND I AM IN 7th GRADE.
09:07:45AM >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S NEW INTERN FOR THE DAY.
09:07:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WILL HAVE A SECOND INTERN IN A MINUTE.
09:07:49AM >> YES.
09:07:51AM >> I AM MENARA, AND I AM IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:07:56AM >> I AM ANDREW TUCKER IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:07:58AM >> HI, I AM OLIVIA METIKA IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:08:05AM >> HI, I AM ISAAC MARTINEZ, AND I AM IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:08:09AM >> HI, I AM HUDSON, AND I AM IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:08:14AM >> HI, I AM NORA, AND I AM IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:08:20AM >> HI, ELLIS KING, AND I AM IN SIXTH GRADE.
09:08:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE
TODAY.
THE OLD SAYING THAT YOUTH IS MY FUTURE.
I BELIEVE YOUTH IS HERE AND RIGHT NOW.
MISS BIEBEL.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THEM IN AND I HOPE YOU TAKE AWAY
SOMETHING TODAY THAT YOU WILL LEARN ABOUT LOCAL GOVERNMENT,
HOW IT WORKS, HOW IT RUNS AND THE DECISION WE MAKE.
AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
ALL RIGHT, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADOPTING THE
MINUTES OF APRIL 11 AND APRIL 13.
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
SHOULD WE GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S START WITH -- EXCUSE ME.
STAFF REPORTS.
I AM COMING.
I'M HERE.
OUR 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING REVIEW.
WE CAN'T OPEN THAT NOW, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE
CONTINUED.
09:09:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING A REQUEST TO
CONTINUE THAT ITEM.
THAT ITEM, MADAM CLERK, ITEM 67.
09:09:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO MOVED --
09:09:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GOT TO DO IT AT 1:30.
09:09:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THOSE MONITORING THE HEARING THAT THERE
WILL BE A REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE ON THE 1:30.
09:10:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
CHIEF BENNETT WILL NOT BE HERE, HOWEVER, MISS JEAN DUNCAN
HAS BEEN ASKED TO FILL IN FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 69.
I BELIEVE THAT IS ALSO GOING TO SAY ON THE AGENDA.
09:10:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
09:10:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
FILE NUMBER -- NUMBER 70.
THAT IS ALSO -- THEY ARE GOING TO BE HEARD TOGETHER.
71.
WE GOT A MEMO FROM ABBYE FEELEY ON THAT.
THAT IS ALSO STAYING.
NUMBER 72.
COUNCILMAN VIERA?
09:10:40AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU KNOW, I AM FINE WITH A WRITTEN REPORT.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S FINE.
09:10:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SO WE WILL LEAVE IT OFTEN THE AGENDA.
09:10:48AM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO APPEARANCES NECESSARY BY TAMPA POLICE.
09:10:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 73.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:10:56AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, SIR.
I READ THE STAFF REPORT.
CAN WE JUST CONTINUE THIS FOR SIX MONTHS JUST TO GET AN
UPDATE.
09:11:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
09:11:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A DATE, PLEASE.
09:11:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DO WE HAVE A DATE?
09:11:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HOW ABOUT --
09:11:09AM >>CLERK:
OCTOBER 5.
09:11:12AM >>BILL CARLSON:
PERFECT, OCTOBER 5.
09:11:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A SECOND.
09:11:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
09:11:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
09:11:24AM >> TEAM ITEM NUMBER 74.
09:11:27AM >> I AM FINE WITH A REPORT AND MAKE A MOTION TO COME BACK
FOR US.
BUT I DON'T NEED STAFF HERE.
09:11:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 75.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:11:36AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, PLEASE.
WE READ THE REPORT BUT WILL BE GOOD TO JUST HAVE SHORT
DISCUSSION.
09:11:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 76.
09:11:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD LIKE TO -- IT IS A PRESENTATION
SO, YES, I WANT FOLKS HERE.
09:11:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 77.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:11:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
09:11:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
78.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
09:11:59AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, I THINK WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ON IT.
09:12:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A RESOLUTION TO THAT.
79, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
09:12:07AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
REMOVE 79 FROM THE AGENDA.
09:12:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO REMOVE
ITEM 79, 81300.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
NUMBER 80, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:12:28AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
09:12:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
81 AND 82 THAT I BELIEVE ARE BEING REQUESTED
TO BE CONTINUED UNTIL APRIL 27.
09:12:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED TO CONTINUE TO APRIL 27.
09:12:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2380224 AND 82, CM 23-79913 TO BE CONTINUED TO APRIL 27,
2023.
09:12:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE ITEM 83 FOR MAY 25.
09:12:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ON 81 AND 82.
YOU MADE THE MOTION.
WHO SECONDED THAT MOTION?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
BOTH MOTIONS PASSED.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 83.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:13:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CONTINUE TO MAY 25, 2023 AS
REQUESTED.
09:13:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND.
09:13:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT WAS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER --
09:13:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
83.
09:13:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
I BELIEVE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 84 HAS BEEN ASKED TO BE
CONTINUED --
09:13:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVED TO CONDITION TO AUGUST 24, 2023.
09:13:44AM >> SECOND.
09:13:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 84, 69890
TO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
09:13:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE
ADDENDUM.
09:14:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1, FILE NUMBER CM 23-80349.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:14:23AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I HAVE HERE -- IF YOU WANT, YOUR GROUP CAN COME UP.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO TALK TO EVERYBODY
HERE.
I WANTED TO INTRODUCE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THE CITY OF TAMPA
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THESE WONDERFUL FOLKS IN THE NEWS.
WE HAVE HERE MR. GREG JONES ROAR WHO IS AN ATTORNEY AND
PARTNER WITH RELIANT AND ALVAREZ.
HE IS BOARD CERTIFIED IN CIVIL TRIAL LAW AND A WELL-KNOWN
AND RESPECTED ATTORNEY HERE IN THE TAMPA AREA.
MR. JONES SERVES IN MANY CAPACITIES INCLUDING BEING HERE
TODAY.
BUT A CAPACITY THAT I HAVE TO MENTION, THE PROBLEM THAT THE
FORUM IS CAPACITY FOR HE IS A DEACON AT THE BAYSHORE BAPTIST
CHURCH ON THE MISSIONS COMMITTEE.
GREG, MR. JONES, LAUNCHED A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION BY THE
NAME OF C.U.P., WHICH IS COFFEE UNITING PEOPLE.
COFFEE UNITING PEOPLE ALL-INCLUSIVE COFFEE SHOPS AND EMPLOYS
PEOPLE WITH ALL ABILITIES, INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, AUTISM
AND PHYSICAL AND INTELLECTUAL CHALLENGES.
HE DOES IT FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS, AND THE FACT THAT
FOUR OUT OF FIVE PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES ARE
UNEMPLOYED OR UNDEREMPLOYED AND SET AN EXAMPLE FOR DIFFERENT
ENTITIES IN THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR.
SOMETHING WE ARE DEALING BACK IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO MAKE
SURE ENTITIES ARE INCLUSIVE IN THE HIRING PRACTICES OF
HIRING PEOPLE WITH SPECIAL NEEDS AND INTELLECTUAL
DISABILITY AND IT YOU IT FOR A LARGER PRINCIPLE THAT WE ALL
BELONG, NO MATTER WHO WE ARE, WHERE WE COME FROM, WHAT OUR
ABILITIES ARE, WE ARE ENTITLED TO RESPECT AND DIGNITY.
I WANTED MR. JONES AND HIS TEAM TO TALK OF THE WONDERFUL
WORK THEY DO THROUGH C.U.P. AND MOTIONS TO HAVE THE CITY OF
TAMPA TO HAVE THEM OUTSIDE ON CITY PROPERTY SELLING THEIR
COFFEE TO FOLKS TO FURTHER SPREAD THEIR WONDERFUL MESSAGE.
GREG, TAKE IT AWAY.
09:16:44AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE KIND WORDS.
I WANT TO INTRODUCE MY TEAM.
PART OF MY TEAM.
THIS IS JANE.
EXCUSE ME.
ELLIE BROWN, ONE OF OUR FIRST EMPLOYEES.
AND ALSO ON THE BOARD.
MY WIFE, LAURA, WHO IS A BOARD MEMBER AND LAURIE HUNT ON OUR
BOARD AND LAURIE'S SON, HENRY, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE
STARTED THIS ORGANIZATION.
NOT JUST ME BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.
A GROUP.
IT TAKES A TEAM EFFORT.
WE ARE ALL RUNNING THE BOAT IN THE SAME DIRECTION, WE SAY.
WE STARTED AN ORGANIZATION CALLED C.U.P., A NONPROFIT.
OPENED UP OUR FIRST SHOP EMBARK COLLECTIVE AND COME SEE US
ON WHITING AND JEFFERSON STREET.
THE FIRST INCLUSIVE COFFEE HOUSE IN TAMPA.
HOPEFULLY MORE TO COME.
WE WANT TO BE THE STARBUCKS OF SPECIAL NEEDS COFFEE HOUSES.
PER EMPLOYING INDIVIDUALS AS COUNCILMAN TOLD US OF ALL
ABILITIES.
AND MAINLY THOSE WITH INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL
DISABILITIES BUT OPEN TO ALL.
WE HAVE GREAT PLANS.
GOAL IS TO SPREAD KNOWLEDGE OF THE INCLUSIVE DISABILITY
COMMUNITY IN TAMPA.
AND WE ARE EXCITED TO TALK ABOUT THIS OPPORTUNITY.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO RECOGNIZE PHYLLIS GUTMANN WHO IS HERE
ALSO FROM McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER ONE OF OUR PARTNERS AND
PHYLLIS HAS BEEN WITH US FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME.
WE ARE TREMENDOUSLY EXCITED AND WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY THAT
COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS GIVEN TO US POSSIBLY OF SELLING COFFEE
OUT IN FRONT OF THE CITY HALL HERE.
WE HAVE PLANS TO OPEN UP OUR SECOND LOCATION ON SOUTH DALE
MABRY AND EL PRADO IN JUNE.
SO, HOPEFULLY YOU WILL BE ABLE TO STOP BY.
AND WE HAVE PLANS TO GO ELSEWHERE IN TAMPA DOWN THE ROAD AND
WE JUST GOT BIG PLANS TO -- TO DEVELOP AND EXPLORE AND
EXPAND OUR MISSION.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE LONG MEETINGS AND HAVE TO BE
CAFFEINATED SO WE BRING GIFTS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHO TO GIVE IT TO.
I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU, LEWIS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
09:18:52AM >>LUIS VIERA:
VERY KIND.
09:18:53AM >> COFFEE BAGS FOR EACH OF YOU FROM C.U.P.
THERE YOU GO.
HOPE YOU CAN BREW THOSE AND ENJOY OUR -- OUR JOE AND COME BY
AND SEE US SOME TIME IN EMBARK COLLECTIVE CENTER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:19:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANYBODY ELSE.
GREG WANT TO SPEAK?
ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK?
ARE YOU SURE?
OKAY, GREAT.
SO I -- I ALSO WANTED TO PRESENT, IF I MAY, A TAMPA CITY
COUNCIL COMMENDATION OF THE WONDERFUL WORK YOU HAVE ON IT
AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO.
GREG, MY HAT IS ALWAYS OFF TO YOU.
I THINK YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE ATTORNEYS WHO TAKES ON PUBLIC
SERVICE IN MANY WAYS.
WE SEE SO MANY ATTORNEYS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
SAM GIBBONS.
JIM DAVIS.
LANCE SCRIVEN.
AND YOU CERTAINTY ARE ONE OF THE CHAMPIONS FOR YOU GUYS.
GOD BLESS YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[APPLAUSE]
09:19:46AM >> THANKS, FOLKS.
09:19:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR BEEF BRINGING THESE GREAT
FOLKS HERE.
YOU SAY DALE MABRY AND EL PRADO.
VACANT CORNER BUILDING.
09:19:58AM >> FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA, A PINCH-A-PENNY ON THE NORTHEAST
CORNER.
WE ARE JUST THE NEXT BLOCK OFF BETWEEN AND VILLA.
A WHITE BUILDING AND WE WILL BE IN THERE HOPEFULLY BY END OF
JUNE.
ONE BLOCK NORTH OF DALE MABRY AND EL PRADO.
09:20:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:20:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I AM A LITTLE MORE AWAKE BECAUSE THE SMELL IS
AMAZING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THIS IS A FABULOUS PROGRAM.
A WONDERFUL IDEA, AND I BELIEVE YOU ARE HAVING A FUNDRAISER
FRIDAY ANY?
09:20:35AM >> SO WE ARE.
TOMORROW NIGHT OVER AT BEEF O'BRADY'S OVER AT MacDILL AND
BAY TO BAY.
SO FROM 5 TO 8:00 -- 5 TO CLOSING, BEEF'S IS GOING TO DONATE
20% OF ALL THE PROCEEDS TO C.U.P.
SO ANYBODY WHO HAS A CHANCE TO WANT TO COME OVER AND GET A
HAMBURGER AND WHATNOT, YOUR SUPPORT WILL GO TOWARD OUR
ORGANIZATION.
TO THAT POINT, THE SUPPORT WE RECEIVED FROM THE TAMPA AREA
COMMUNITY, SOUTH TAMPA AND BEYOND HAS BEEN OVERWHELMING.
AND THAT WILL BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT.
WE ARE EXTREMELY FORTUNATE FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY ALSO.
TOMORROW NIGHT AT BEEF O'BRADY'S.
5:00.
09:21:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.
YOU ALL ARE DOING AMAZING WORK.
AND THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO GROW THIS IS PHENOMENAL.
CONGRATULATIONS.
YOUR HARD WORK IS CERTAINLY NOTED.
09:21:25AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:21:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU TOMORROW NIGHT.
09:21:29AM >> ALL RIGHT, AWESOME.
09:21:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:21:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN CITRO.
MY HONOR AND PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU AND GOOD FOLKS.
I SEE YOUR COFFEE IS MADE BY THE BRISK COMPANY.
09:21:44AM >> IT IS.
09:21:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH THE FOUNDER OF THE
COFFEE WHEN WE WERE TEENAGERS IN HIGH SCHOOL IN JEFFERSON.
CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO GIVE
EVERYBODY A CHANCE GIVING A LEG UP AND NOT A PUSH DOWN.
09:22:00AM >> DENISE REDDICK WITH BRISK HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL PARTNER
WITH US.
AND PART OF OUR STORY IS WE HAD SO MANY VENDORS AND
CONSTRUCTION TEAMS AND MEMBERS AND WHATNOT WHO DONATED
SERVICES AND DOING IT AT DISCOUNT FOR OUR CAUSE.
AND DENISE WAS THERE FROM THE GET-GO.
WE ARE VERY APPRECIATE I HAVE IT TO HAVE DENISE AND BRISK
COFFEE WITH US.
09:22:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:22:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
A GREAT IDEA.
THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND KEEP
US POSTED HOW WE CAN HELP AND IF THERE ARE EVENTS LIKE THE
ONES TOMORROW NIGHT TO PROMOTE, SEND THEM TO US SO WE CAN
POST THEM AND PROMOTE THEM.
THANK YOU.
09:22:37AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:22:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YOU KNOW, MY FRIEND, I HAVE KNOWN YOU FOR
MANY, MANY YEARS AND I LEARNED MORE ABOUT YOU TODAY THAN I
HAVE OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS.
YOU ARE A GREAT PERSON.
AND THIS IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION THAT YOU BELONG TO.
AND WITH.
AND HELPING PEOPLE THAT MAYBE OVERLOOKED.
I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURAGE AND I THANK YOU FOR THIS
WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION.
I CAN'T WAIT TO TASTE SOME.
IT IS GOING TO BE GREAT TO GET A GOOD CAFE CON LECHE SOUTH
-- SOUTH OF BAY TO BAY.
THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HARD WORK YOU DO.
09:23:15AM >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN
[APPLAUSE]
09:23:32AM >>LUIS VIERA:
AND NEXT, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I WANT TO
INVITE MR. JOSHUA FELDER WHO IS HERE.
WE HAVE A FILM, ONE-MINUTE SNIPPET FROM THE VIDEO ON THE
"TODAY SHOW."
IF I.T. CAN PLAY THAT BRIEFLY.
09:23:47AM >> OH, YEAH, WE DID.
09:23:54AM >> I FELT LIKE IT WAS -- ONE OF THE BEST SUMMER CAMPS I EVER
HAVE BEEN TO.
09:23:59AM >> YOU CAN GET A LOT OF SCRIPTS.
YOU ARE AT A PLACE IN YOUR CAREER WHERE YOU CAN PICK AND
CHOOSE.
WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO DO THIS MOVIE.
09:24:07AM >> I WATCHED THE SPANISH MOVIE.
THIS IS A REMAKE.
I SAID OH, I AM IN.
SUCH A BEAUTIFUL STORY.
SO FUNNY.
SO BRILLIANT.
ONCE I MET ALL THESE GUYS THE FIRST DAY, I SAID, OH, WE ARE
GOING TO BE IN GOOD SHAPE.
SPEAKING OF GOOD SHAPE, HOW IS WOODY'S BASKETBALL.
STILL PLAYING PRETTY WELL?
09:24:28AM >> I ALWAYS KNEW HE WAS A GOOD BALL PLAYER IN THE MOVIE
"WHITE MAN CAN'T JUMP."
09:24:34AM >> STUDIOS AUDITIONED HUNDREDS LOOKING TO HIRE DISABLED
ACTORS.
09:24:39AM >> RIGHT AWAY I CALLED MY DAD, AND I SAID, DAD, YOU WILL NOT
BELIEVE IT.
I AM IN A MOVIE WITH WOODY.
HE ALSO FREAKED OUT WHEN I TOLD HIM.
09:24:47AM >> I WAS SHOCKED.
I STARTED DOING A LITTLE DANCE.
I SAID I AM GOT A ROLE IN A HOLLYWOOD MOVE WHOO!
09:25:00AM >> I HEARD YOUR SCENE WAS THE KARAOKE TEAM.
09:25:03AM >> HAD THE BEST TIME EVER.
 KNOCK DOWN YOU ARE NEVER GOING TO KEEP ME DOWN 
 KEEP ME UP AGAIN 
09:25:15AM >> THE MOVIE IS JOYFUL AND FUNNY.
09:25:17AM >> WHAT IS WITH THE BOOGIE BOARD.
09:25:20AM >> THIS GUY JUST SHOWED UP.
09:25:22AM >> OKAY --
09:25:23AM >>LUIS VIERA:
OKAY, GREAT.
MY PLEASURE TO HAVE HERE.
I HAVE PHYLLIS GUTMANN FROM McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER WHO
CAME HERE FOR THIS AS WELL AS C.U.P.
AND JOSHUA FELDER IS A VERY REMARKABLE YOUNG MAN.
HE IS FROM HERE IN TAMPA AND A GRADUATE OF HILLSBOROUGH HIGH
SCHOOL WHO GREW UP IN THE TAMPA AREA AS A YOUNG MAN.
JOSH WAS BULLIED BECAUSE OF -- IN PART, BECAUSE OF A SPEED
IMPEDIMENT HE HAD AND DIFFERENT CHALLENGES.
JOSH HAS A SO-CALLED HIGH FUNCTIONING AUTISM OR ASPERGER'S
IF YOU WILL.
HIS FAMILY AND HIS MOM AND DAD ALWAYS BELIEVED IN HIM.
JOSH HAS GROWN INTO A FINE YOUNG MAN WHO SHOWS THE WORLD
WHAT HE CAN DO WHEN HE SIMPLY HAS THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND BOY, WHAT THIS YOUNG MAN HAS DONE IS QUITE REMARKABLE.
BEFORE HE GOT HIS START IN THE MOVIE WITH WOODY HARRELSON
AND NUMEROUS OTHER ACTORS, JOSH'S FIRST BRUSH WITH FAME WAS
OUR SUPER BOWL HERE IN TAMPA WHEN HE WAS ONE OF 200 DANCERS
OUT AT THE SUPER BOWL MIMICKING MOVES BASED ON HEROES
MICHAEL JACKSON, CHRIS BROWN, USHER AND OTHERS.
FOR 15 YEARS, JOSH HAS BEEN AN AMBASSADOR WITH BEST BUDDIES
HERE IN TAMPA HOW WE MET SOME YEARS AGO AND WORKS AT HOLLAND
AND KNIGHT AS A STAFF MEMBER THERE.
THAT WHOLE WOODY HARRELSON THING THAT HAPPENED.
JOSH HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAR IN THE MOVIE "CHAMPIONS"
WITH WOODY HARRELSON A LEGENDARY ACTOR.
A-LISTER.
"NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN."
"WHITE MEN CAN'T JUMP."
"PLANET OF THE APES."
"ZOMBIE LAND."
AND A MOVIE ABOUT AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS A BRUSH WITH THE LAW
AND HAS TO COACH A SPECIAL OLYMPICS BASKETBALL TEAM AND
LEARNS A LITTLE SOMETHING ABOUT LIFE.
JOSH CO-STARS IN THAT MOVIE.
WE ARE VERY, VERY PROUD OF JOSH AND ALL THE HARD WORK HE HAS
DONE DOING THIS.
STARRING IN A MOVIE WITH WOODY HARRELSON.
YOU ARE AN AMBASSADOR OF WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO AND GIVEN A
CHANCE TO FULFILL THEIR GOD-GIVEN POTENTIAL.
WITH THAT, WE GIVE YOU THIS CITY OF TAMPA COMMENDATION.
THANK YOU, BUDDY.
IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
09:27:34AM >> THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING ME ALL MY LIFE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE, "CHAMPIONS" YET, NOT A
PROBLEM.
YOU CAN WATCH IT IN THEATRES OR STREAM IT ONLINE
[APPLAUSE]
09:27:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:27:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I THINK YOUR SHIRT SAYS IT ALL.
YOU ARE A CHAMPION.
09:28:03AM >> THANK YOU.
09:28:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
JUMPED OVER HURDLE THAT I COULDN'T JUMP
OVER AND YOU MADE IT TO THE BIG TEN WITH THE MOVIE ACTORS,
HARRELSON AND THE REST OF THEM, A FANTASTIC THING TO DO AND
SOMETHING YOU WILL CHERISH THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.
HOPEFULLY YOU WILL BE IN THE SAME ROLE WHEN THEY WERE IN THE
MOVIE OR MAYBE GREATER ASPIRATIONS TO BE A LEADING STAR IN
ONE OF THE SITCOMS OR MOVIES OR SOMETHING.
BECAUSE YOU GOT A HEAD START THAT MOST OF US DON'T HAVE A
CHANCE TO DO AND YOU DID IT ONLY BECAUSE WHY OF YOUR HARD
WORK, DETERMINATION AN A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A WINNER AND A
LOSER.
AND A LOSER GETS UP AND TRIES TO WIN.
NOT THAT YOU WERE A LOSER, I AM SAYING THE DIFFERENCE I AM
MAKING IN COMPARISON IN LIFE.
I CONGRATULATE YOU OF BEING WHO YOU ARE.
09:28:47AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:28:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:28:51AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CONGRATULATIONS, YOUNG MAN.
I GUARANTEE YOU IT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE, WASN'T IT?
09:28:57AM >> IT WAS FUN.
SOMETHING I WILL NEVER FORGET ABOUT.
09:29:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I CAN IMAGINE WORKING WITH WOODY HARRELSON.
AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR DOING SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WON'T HAVE
A CHANCE TO DO, BEING IN A MOVIE.
09:29:11AM >> YOU DON'T GET MUCH ACTORS FROM TAMPA, SO -- [LAUGHTER]
09:29:15AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE GOT ONE NOW.
HOW ABOUT THAT.
09:29:17AM >> YEAH, EXACTLY.
09:29:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:29:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:29:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CONGRATULATIONS.
SO WONDERFUL TO HAVE A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE FROM TAMPA
GETTING OUT THERE AND SHOWING WHAT THE CITY IS ALL ABOUT.
SO CONGRATULATIONS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WATCHING THIS MOVIE AND SEEING YOU IN MANY
MORE.
09:29:35AM >> YES, THANK YOU.
09:29:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:29:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANKS.
THANKS FOR THE INSPIRATION.
A GREAT WAY TO START THE DAY.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR RECOGNIZING THIS YOUNG MAN.
THIS -- WHAT AN AWESOME EXPERIENCE.
YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE AND YOU ARE YOUNG.
THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR INSPIRING US.
09:29:58AM >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
09:30:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:30:02AM >>BILL CARLSON:
EVERYBODY GROWING UP WANTS TO BE A MOVIE
STAR AND YOU HAVE DONE THAT.
CONGRATULATIONS.
AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, YOU ARE JUMPING OVER HURDLES
THAT WE CAN'T JUMP.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS.
09:30:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
JOSHUA, YOU GOT TO HANG OUT WITH WOODY
HARRELSON.
09:30:20AM >> YEAH, I DID.
09:30:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MAN.
MAN.
YOU ARE A RISING SO QUICKLY ON THE LADDER OF SUCCESS.
AND IT IS BECAUSE OF YOUR HARD WORK AND BECAUSE YOU WANT TO
ACHIEVE.
BUT, REMEMBER, THAT SAME LADDER, THERE ARE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU
WANTING THE SAME TYPE OF SUCCESS.
REMEMBER TO HELP THEM COME UP THAT LADDER.
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL YOU ACHIEVED AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD,
BROTHER.
09:30:47AM >> YES, SIR.
09:30:47AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY.
PHYLLIS, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING?
09:30:52AM >> SURE.
CONGRATULATIONS FIRST, JOSH.
I HAVE TO SAY IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE, DON'T DELAY.
JOSH IS ACTUALLY A TAMPA INFLUENCER FOR OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE
IN THE DIVISIONALS OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
HE IS SHOWING EVERYONE WHAT CAN BE DONE, THE POSSIBILITIES.
AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU, CHAIR, THAT HE CAN HELP
BRING OTHERS ALONG JUST BY BEING SO VISIBLE IN THE PUBLIC.
THE MOVIE IS BRILLIANT.
I WAS VERY PLEASANTLY SURPRISED BECAUSE IT FOCUSED ON
INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES THAT ARE ADULTS.
THEY TREAT THEM LIKE ADULTS.
THEY ARE ALLOWED TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES AS ADULTS WITH ADULTS
LANGUAGE .
IT WAS JUST A VERY PLEASANT SURPRISE TO SEE A WELL-DONE
MOVIE ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL AND COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR HAVING HIM.
AND MANY CONGRATULATIONS, MY FRIEND.
09:31:43AM >> THANK YOU.
09:31:44AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I SHOW THIS ON THE ELMO, IF I MAY.
09:31:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IT IS ALREADY UP THERE.
09:31:49AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT WAS THE POSTER.
FUNNY, I DISCOVERED THIS -- I WAS IN THE MOVIE THEATRE
WALKING WITH MY SON AND I SAW THIS POSTER, AND I SAID THAT
IS JOSH.
I HAD NO IDEA.
IT WAS FUNNY.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
[APPLAUSE]
09:32:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL NOW BE TAKING PUBLIC
COMMENT.
ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISH TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT,
PLEASE COME FORWARD.
IF YOU WILL FORM A LINE ON MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT.
REMEMBER YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
YES, MA'AM.
09:32:41AM >> GOOD MORNING, GREETINGS.
DOMINIQUE COBB.
I AM A RESIDENT AND BUSINESS OWNER IN EAST TAMPA.
AND MULTIGENERATIONAL TAMPANIAN.
I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE MY GREAT GRANDFATHER HERSCHEL HATTON
WAS A PRODUCE MERCHANT IN YBOR CITY.
ALSO HE PAVED AND LAID BRICKWORK DOWN NEBRASKA AVENUE.
MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER, HELEN MUSE, ALSO -- SHE WAS THE -- SHE
UP KEPT THE APPEARANCE, THE HOMES OF POLITICIANS ON BAYSHORE
BOULEVARD.
MY GRANDMOTHER BEATRICE COLE ALSO HELPED IN THE SEAFOOD
INDUSTRY IF YOU LIVED IN TAMPA IF YOU ATE FROM SINGLETON, MY
FAMILY WAS A PART OF THAT.
TODAY I COME BECAUSE MY GRANDMOTHER IS BURIED IN MEMORIAL
PARK.
BACK IN JANUARY OF 2023, THAT PROPERTY WAS SOLD TO A FLIPPER
FOR $18,000.
AND IT WAS ALSO BIDDED AGAINST BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
DURING MY -- DURING MY TIME HERE, I HAVE VOLUNTEERED ON MANY
BOARDS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
AND RECENTLY AS OF JULY '22, WE MADE A REQUEST FROM CITY
COUNCIL, HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY
TO ASSIST IN PURCHASING THE PROPERTY OF MEMORIAL PARK.
TO MY DISMAY, THAT WAS SOLD UNDER OUR NOSE, AND WE DO NOT
KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE FINAL RESTING PLACE FOR OUR
LOVED ONES.
TODAY, I COME WITH NOT SO GOOD IN US BECAUSE I HAVE A FAMILY
FRIEND WHO RECENTLY SUFFERED A LOSS.
AND THEIR GRANDPARENTS AND LOVED ONES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
BURIED IN THAT PLOT.
AS OF NOW, THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE
OWNERS.
AND THE FUNERAL HOME WHICH IS AIKENS, ALL THEY NEED IS
ASSISTANCE TO FIND OUT IF SHE CAN BE BURIED THERE BEFORE THE
29th.
WE HAVE TRIED REACHING OUT TO NUMEROUS ENTITIES,
MUNICIPALITIES, THERE HAS BEEN NO HOPE.
AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY OF EAST TAMPA, THAT IS THE HEART OF
TAMPA IF YOU WERE TO DO A LAND SCAN AND SCOPE, THAT IS THE
HEART OF TAMPA AS YOU KNOW, DISTRICT 5 IS -- WE ARE IN
DISREPAIR.
THERE ARE HOUSING CRISIS.
THERE ARE ENTITIES MEANT TO HELP US AND ARE ABUSING THEIR
POWER.
WE NEED ASSISTANCE.
AND TO WRAP IT UP, I KNOW I AM ONLY ONE PERSON.
DUE TO EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, YOU HAVE A VOICE.
YOU HAVE POWER.
USE YOUR VOICE.
GO OUT AND VOTE.
WRITE A LETTER.
HAVE SOMEONE ADVOCATE FOR YOU.
IF YOU DO NOT DO THAT, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO ERASE THE BLACK
HISTORY THAT IS IN TAMPA THANK YOU.
09:35:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:35:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:35:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I SAW THAT E-MAIL AND I TALKED TO THE
FAMILY MEMBER AND MISS TRAVIS IN REFERENCE WHAT NEEDS TO BE
DONE.
WHEN SOMEONE EXPIRES, THE FUNERAL HOME WILL BE CREMATED OR
BURIED AND HAVE A BURIAL PERMIT, AND EVERYONE GETS ONE.
THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW, A CEMETERY NEVER CLOSES.
NEVER CLOSES.
MAY STOP DOING BUREAUS AND NEVER CLOSES.
SO A PERSON PURCHASES A PLOT AND GET A PURCHASE RIGHT OF
THAT PLOT.
AND THE FAMILY GETS THAT PLOT.
THE CEMETERY IF IT IS STILL OPEN OR OPERATED WILL HAVE A
RECORD OF THAT PURCHASE OF THE PLOT, BUT AS FAR AS SOMEBODY
BEING BURIED, CEMETERY NEVER CLOSED.
IF A FUNERAL HAPPENS SATURDAY, IT GOES TO THE -- TO THE
OWNERS OF THE -- FOR EXAMPLE BEFORE YOU PULL IN, THEY ARE
OUT THERE WAITING GETTING THE BURIAL PERMIT IT IS DONE.
IN THIS CASE, IT IS CLOSED NO YOU.
I WOULD IMAGINE THE FUNERAL HOME WILL GET THE BURIAL PERMIT
AND TO GIVE THE BURIAL PERMIT TO THE OWNERS OF THE NEW
PROPERTY NOW.
I HAVEN'T HEARD OF NO ACCESS.
I DON'T SEE ANY GATES OR ANYTHING PRECLUDING ANYBODY FROM
GOING IN THERE.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS, WHEN YOU HAVE A CEMETERY THAT DOES NOT
HAVE ITS -- WHAT YOU CALL OPEN AND CLOSERS SOMEBODY THAT
DIGS THE GRAVE WHEN YOU GO TO THE COUNTRY IN THONOTOSASSA.
AND YOU WILL GO AND CLOSE IT WITH ANOTHER COMPANY AND
ENTITY.
I THINK MISS TRAVIS, YOU HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE
OWNER.
I DON'T THINK ACCESS SHOULD BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT IS OPEN.
I THINK -- FINALIZING THE PURCHASE OF THE PLOT.
I THINK THAT MAY BE THE ISSUE, BUT I DON'T THINK IT IS THE
ISSUE -- THE OWNER SINCE THE FAMILY HAS SEVERAL PLOTS THERE.
TO BURY THE LOVED ONE AND MO OF ON AND HOPEFULLY IN THE
FUTURE RESOLUTION RESOLVED HOW THIS WILL BE PUT FORTH BY
MEMORIAL CEMETERY.
MISS TRAVIS SAID ALREADY SENT THE MEMO TO THE PROPERTY OWNER
AND I THINK THE FUNERAL HOME WILL GET TO THE PROPERTY OWNER
AND CAN BE RESOLVED BEFORE THE 29th.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:38:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, MA'AM.
09:38:15AM >> YES, GOOD MORNING.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL AND HAVE A FEW
WORDS FROM GOD.
THE WOMEN'S BIBLE.
EVERYTHING BY MY POWER.
THE LORD HAS TOLD YOU WHAT IS GOOD AND THIS IS WHAT HE
REQUIRES OF YOU TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT, TO LOVE MERCY AND WALK
HUMBLY BY THE GOD.
PRIDE WILL RUIN PEOPLE, BUT THOSE WHO ARE HUMBLED WILL BE
HONORED.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MISS LITA
PEREZ OF THE MINORITY ENTERPRISE WHO STUCK WITH ME ALL
DURING COVID-19 GETTING ME THROUGH THE MINORITY ENTERPRISE,
AND I WANT TO THANK HER FOR THAT AND ALSO, WE NEED MORE AT
THE UNIVERSITY CENTER THAT MY HAND PRINTS.
ALL OVER THAT.
WHEN I WAS BECOMING A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND I AM A BONA
FIDE COUNTY COMMISSIONER.
AND WORK VERY HARD IN THAT COMMUNITY.
YOU CAN ASK MISS -- COMMISSIONER WYNN BECAUSE SHE IS THE ONE
THAT SIGNED MY CERTIFICATE.
AND I JUST HAVE BEEN HAVING A GREAT DAY WITH THE COUNCILMAN
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, THANK YOU, AND I AM WAITING
FOR THE CALL FROM CHIEF BENEFIT SO WE CAN UPDATE OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD EVEN MORE LIKE THE REST OF THE GREAT PEOPLE
THAT ARE DOING GREAT WORK.
WE WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND DO GREAT
WORK IT TOO.
I THANK YOU FOR MY TIME.
MR. BENNETT, I AM LOOKING FOR YOU AND WAITING FOR YOUR CALL.
THANK YOU, AGAIN, AND I LOVE YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE U.S.
09:40:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GIVE US YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
09:40:12AM >> SALLYISE LEE WITH THE PENNY FUND.
WE NEED HELP VERY, VERY BAD SO WE CAN OPEN UP AND THE
BUILDINGS ARE SITTING THERE EMPTY FOR FIVE YEARS.
I HAD A PRELEASE ON IT BEFORE COVID.
SO I AM JUST WAITING FOR CHANGE TO COME FOR GOD TO WHAT HE
HAS TO DO SO WE CAN BECOME A USEFUL PART OF THE COMMUNITY
ALSO WITH THE REST OF THE GOOD CITIZENS.
AND WE ASK ENTREPRENEURS, WE NEED THE HELP, ALL OF US.
MISS CONNIE AND ALL OF US, WE NEED HELP.
AND THE VOLUNTEER MISSIONARY DOES TOO.
THANK YOU.
09:40:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
09:40:56AM >> ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, JASON MARLOW TO SPEAK ON ITEM
NUMBER 76.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR CHAMPIONING THIS
BEFORE COUNCIL.
POST PANDEMIC AMERICA, WE HAVE SEEN A EXPONENTIAL RISE IN
FOOD INSECURITY.
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE INSULATED FROM
POVERTY ONE ACCIDENT, ONE ILLNESS AWAY FROM MAKING DIFFICULT
CHOICES OF PAYING BILLS OR BEING ABLE TO AFFORD FOOD ON THE
TABLE.
AS A FORMER SCHOOLTEACHER, I CAN SHOW HOW USELESS A CHILD
CAN BECOME ON SODA, HOT DOGS AND STICKY BUNS.
AND THERE ARE DROVES OF DATA THAT EXIST ON DIMINISHED I
DON'T OUT COMES OF THOSE GOING AND LEAVING SCHOOLS UNDERFED
AND UNDERNOURISHED.
FURTHERMORE, A RACIAL COMPONENT TO THIS.
STUDIES SHOW THAT BLACK AND BROWN FAMILIES ARE TWICE AS
LIKELY TO BE FOOD INSECURE AS WHITE FAMILIES.
EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN CLAMORING FOR A SUPERMARKET FOR EONS.
I KNOW IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION LATER YOU WILL RECEIVE THE
FOOD DESERTS THAT EXIST WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA EXIST
WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OF COLOR IN OUR CITY.
IN 2020, FEEDING TAMPA BAY ESTIMATED 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE IN
THE REGION WERE FOOD INSECURE.
2021, THE USDA SAID 10% OF FLORIDIAN HOUSEHOLDS ARE FOOD
INSECURE.
A SERIOUS ISSUE.
PARTNERING WITH THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR A LITTLE
INVESTMENT AND LOVE, WE CAN HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THIS
ISSUE.
LASTLY AGAIN.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR BRINGING THIS
FORWARD.
THANKS CITY STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION WE WILL BE SEEING
THIS AFTERNOON AND ENCOURAGE THIS BODY TO TAKE A FAR MORE
ACTIVE ROLE IN INVESTING IN THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE
CONDITIONS OF THIS CITY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:42:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
09:42:46AM >> GOOD MORNING.
IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.
THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW ME, ANGELA ALDERMAN THE GREAT NIECE OF
FRANCISCO MARTINEZ IN COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY AMONG THE LOST.
I WANT TO SAY WORD ON THE COLLEGE CEMETERY SCAM IN RELATES
TO A REPORT THAT CAME OUT.
I HAVE COMMENTS AND CONCERNS.
ARTICLE NUMBER 77.
THERE WAS A SCAN DONE FEBRUARY 3 BY ARDMAN AND ASSOCIATES.
PAUL GUZZO WITH "THE TAMPA TIMES" SEEN SCANNING THE LAND.
REACHED OUT TO THE ITALIAN CLUB AND WAS IGNORED.
HE SPOKE BRIEFLY TO SOMEONE FROM THE SURVEY COMPANY.
I UNDERSTAND FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA'S LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND
THE TASK FORCE REPORT THAT THE ITALIAN CLUB SAID THEY WOULD
GIVE A VERBAL AGREEMENT TO A SCAN.
I WILL NOT PRAISE THEM FOR A SCAN THAT THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN
DONE YEARS AGO WITH A MORAL AND IMPORTANT THING TO DO.
THE METHODOLOGY OF THE SCAN.
WITH MUCH RESPECT TO THE SURVEYORS WHO SCANNED, I SPOKE TO
AN ARCHEOLOGIST TO DOES SUCH SCANS TO LOCATE LOST GRAVES AND
METHODOLOGY OF SCANS.
I WANT TO KNOW THE METHODOLOGIES AND PROPER WAYS TO DISTURB
THE LAND, BODY, AND GRAVES.
I REQUEST THAT WHEN THE REPORT IS AVAILABLE THAT I CAN HAVE
A COPY THAT I CAN SHARE WITH AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL COMPANY TO
REVIEW THE RESULTS AND CONFIRM THE SCAN.
I SAY THIS WITH RESPECT TO THE SURVEYORS WHO WORK HARD.
NOTHING AGAINST THEM.
JUST MORE ABOUT THE SCAN TO DETECT.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD WHEN THE RESULTS COME IN, IF THERE WAS
DISTURBANCE OF THE LAND AND THE GRAVES DETECTED IN THE GPS
SCAN, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR A ARCHAEOLOGICAL SURVEY TO BE
CONDUCTED.
I UNDERSTAND IT IS PRIVATE PARTY.
IF THEY ARE WILLING TO SCAN, COULD THEY NOT ARGUE THIS WHICH
WHAT I ASKED FOR.
IT IS THEIR PROPERTY AND I RESPECT THAT, BUT I EXPRESS THE
IMPORTANCE OF A CORRECT SCAN.
IF THE RESULT INDICATES NO DISTURBANCE OF GRAVES, I ASK
WHERE DID 1200 BODY GOES.
NO QUESTION THEY WERE LAID TO REST THERE.
NO QUESTION THAT IS INDEED COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY.
THE MAPS PROVE IT.
HISTORICAL PAPERWORK PROVES IT AND EXTRAORDINARY RESEARCH
FROM PAUL GUZZO AND "THE TAMPA TIMES."
1200 GRAVES DON'T SIMPLY DISAPPEAR?
AND WHERE ARE THEY?
TO ASK THE CUBAN CLUB WHERE THE BODIES ENTERED AND WHERE MY
GREAT UNCLE WAS MOVED TO.
NEXT IS THE TIME FRAME OF THE RESULTS.
WAS THERE A TIME FRAME GIVEN FOR THE ITALIAN CLUB TO REPORT
BACK THE RESULTS?
I HAVE SEARCHED AND ZION CEMETERY WAS SCANNED IN 2019 AND
RESULTS BACK AUGUST 2019.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE, KING HIGH SCHOOL SCANNED BY GEO VIEW AND
THEY ANNOUNCED THEIR SCANS NOVEMBER 19, A MONTH LATER.
AS YOU CAN SEE THE RESULTS TAKE ABOUT A MONTH OR SO.
AND TODAY IS APRIL 20 AND THEY SCANNED APRIL 7.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:46:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
09:46:06AM >> DO I HAVE A FEW MORE SECONDS?
I AM AWARE OF THE LAWS AND THIS BEING PRIVATE PROPERTY.
AND I HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH THE PROCESS, BUT I ALSO
HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW AS A FAMILY MEMBER OF SOMEONE BURIED
ON THE LAND AND 1200 OTHER SOULS THAT HAVE NO ONE TO DEFEND
THEM TO ONCE REST AGAIN IN PEACE AND HAVE THEIR DIGNITY
RESTORED.
I ASK WHERE ARE THEIR RIGHTS.
I ASK THAT THE WORLD LEARNS FROM THIS AND NEVER REPEATS
ITSELF.
THANK YOU.
09:46:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:46:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY JUST WITHIN THE GRASSY AREA OR WAS IT
ALSO WITH THE EXISTING LARGE MAUSOLEUM IS AT?
09:46:50AM >> THE EXISTS MAUSOLEUM AND ALL THE WAY BACK.
09:46:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAS COLLEGE HILL CEMETERY?
09:46:56AM >> YES, SIR.
09:46:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SPOKE TO A GENTLEMAN -- I BROUGHT THIS
UP BEFORE IN 2019.
HE HAS SINCE PASSED AWAY.
HE WAS THE ARCHITECT THAT DESIGNED THE MAUSOLEUM.
THE LAST TIME I WENT TO THE HOUSE.
I WENT TO SEE HIM AND HE STARTED TALKING OF THE MAUSOLEUM.
IF I REMEMBER HE SAID WHEN THEY LAID THE FOUNDATION, THAT
THEY DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING.
I DON'T KNOW.
THE GENTLEMAN HAS PASSED AWAY.
IN HIS RECORDS, EVERYTHING IS MISSING.
SO I AM CURIOUS TO KNOW TOO.
IF 1200 INDIVIDUALS WERE MOVED TAMPA, YOU KNOW, WHERE?
ARE THEY AT MEMORIAL CEMETERY?
I MEAN, THAT IS A LOT --
09:47:33AM >> RIGHT, RECORD.
IF THERE IS NO DETECTION OF BODIES, WHERE DID THEY GO?
THEY ARE PROVEN THEY WERE PUT THERE.
09:47:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY, AS MUCH MY GRANDFATHER NEVER GOT A
NOTICE THAT HIS BROTHER WAS MOVED AND HE LIVED UP IN THE
1980s, LATE '80s.
HE DIED IN '90.
THAT IS MY QUESTION IF THAT TAKES PLACE.
AGAIN, I AM VERY GRATEFUL THAT A SCAN TOOK PLACE.
I AM NOT COMING HERE TO BE NEGATIVE WITH THAT BECAUSE I
APPRECIATE COUNCIL AND ALL OF YOUR HELP WITH THIS.
09:48:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU SAID IT WAS YOUR UNCLE.
09:48:07AM >> MY GREAT UNCLE.
09:48:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE PASSED AWAY WHEN?
09:48:12AM >> 1917.
BASED ON THE MAPS, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN LIKELY
BURIED IN THE GRASSY AREA, WHICH WAS CONSIDERED THE CUBAN
CEMETERY AT THAT TIME.
09:48:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE ITALIAN CLUB DOESN'T HAVE BURIAL
RECORDS FOR THE CEMETERY?
09:48:29AM >> NOT THAT I -- THEY NEVER REACHED OUT TO ME.
I HAD NOTHING AGAINST SPEAKING TO THEM BUT THEY DIDN'T
BOTHER TO INTERVENE.
09:48:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:48:38AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:48:40AM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I SAY SOMETHING U.S.
09:48:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:48:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ANGELA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS.
OBVIOUSLY MY OFFICE WILL CONNECT YOU WITH THE PROPER
INDIVIDUALS FOR THIS, BECAUSE YOU WORKED A LOT ON THIS.
SO THANK YOU.
09:48:53AM >> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
BOUNDER BRONER, THE GRANDSON AND THE FAMILY MEMBER THAT
COUNCILMAN GUDES AND DOMINIQUE SPOKE.
THANK YOU COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR CONTACTING ME AND NICOLE
TRAVIS OF FORWARDING MY E-MAILS.
I HAVE MY FAMILY MEMBERS BEHIND ME.
MY SISTER, KATRINA.
AUNT, CYNTHIA.
AND COMING HERE BECAUSE AS COUNCIL GUDES MENTIONED EARLIER,
WE HAVE AN ISSUE LOCATING THE RECORDS; HOWEVER, I AM TRYING
TO APPROACH THIS FROM A CIVIL DIDN'T AND LET THE OWNER TO
REACH OUT, CONTACT THE FUNERAL HOME AND ALLOW THEM ACCESS.
BECAUSE IT IS A NORMAL PART OF THEIR BUSINESS.
WHEN JOHN ROBINSON WAS ALIVE, THE LAST OWNER.
IT HAS BEEN PASSED ON FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION.
THE CURRENT OWNER KNOWS OUR FAMILY.
WE HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THE FUNERAL HOME ACTUALLY CONDUCTING
IT.
JUST PART OF THEIR POLICE, THEY REACH OUT TO THE OWNER
SAYING WE WOULD LIKE TO CONDUCT A SERVICE ON THIS DAY AND
JUST SCHEDULING THE SERVICE SO NOT IN CONFLICT WITH ANY
OTHER BURIALS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES MENTIONED THAT CEMETERIES
DON'T CLOSE.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH THAT ON GOOD FAITH AND ALLOW SOME
GRACE FOR HUMAN ERROR TOWARD THE OWNER THAT I AM SURE THAT
AS A PROPERTY FLIPPER, HE MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN HIS RIGHTS AS A
CEMETERY OWNER.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, NICOLE TRAVIS PUT ME IN TOUCH WITH THE
FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF FUNERAL SERVICES CEMETERIES AND
CONSUMER IS SERVICES.
WHEN I REACHED OUT TO THEM, THEY SAID THAT A VERBAL WOULD
DO.
I AM REQUESTING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD IN GOOD FAITH WITH THAT
SIMPLY REACHED OUT INFORMED HIM THIS IS THE DATE WE WOULD
LIKE TO DO IT AND KNOWING NO OTHER FUNERALS OR BURIALS
PLANNED ON THAT DAY, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROCEED.
THAT IS MY LAST FINAL REQUEST.
HOPEFULLY THIS IS RESOLVED WELL WITHIN TIME.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
09:50:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
09:51:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:51:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:51:04AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MISS TRAVIS, IF -- IF THE NEW PROPERTY
OWNER IS NOT RESPONSIVE, MAYBE WE CAN GET THE DEPARTMENT OF
REGULATIONS TO GIVE HIM A CALL SO HE CAN BE ASSURED WHAT THE
PROCESS TRULY IS NOW IN GOING FORWARD.
AND THAT WAY, WE CAN GET THIS FAMILY SOME COMFORT FOR THEIR
LOVED ONE.
I KNOW THEY ARE IN A STRESSFUL POINT RIGHT NO NOW IN THEIR
LIVES.
IF WE CAN KIND OF COMFORT THEM ANY WAY WE CAN, I HOPE THIS
ADMINISTRATION WILL REACH OUT TO THEM AGAIN LIKE YOU HAVE
DONE.
IF THEY DON'T RESPOND, GET THE DEPARTMENT OF REGULATIONS TO
GO DOWN THERE AND THEY WILL COME UP VERY QUICKLY.
I ASSURE YOU.
I KNOW HOW THEY OPERATE.
09:51:45AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:51:47AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I AM SURGRET DOSS.
I AM A LITIGANT AGAINST THE CITY OF TAMPA.
TWO OF YOUR FORMER OFFICERS AND SOME OTHER PUBLIC
INDIVIDUALS.
AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF CASES BUT ONE PARTICULARLY PENDING IN
THE MIDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA WHERE STATE OF FLORIDA IS A
DEVIL, DOSS VERSUS HOLDER ET AL.
AND THE CITY NEEDS MONEY FROM PEOPLE ASKING FOR PUBLIC
RECORDS REQUEST.
ONE OF YOUR POLICE OFFICERS HAPPENED TO BE THE MAYOR'S HEAD
OF SECURITY ALLEGEDLY RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM A LOCAL
JUDGE REQUESTING TO INVESTIGATE ME.
THAT INVESTIGATION WASN'T AN HONEST ATTEMPT TO FIND ANY
FACTS SUFFICIENT TO CHARGE ME WITH FELONY PERJURY.
IT WAS OFFICIALLY A LEGAL LYNCHING.
BY THE WAY, IF YOU DON'T KNOW IN A STATE OF FLORIDA, A
PERJURY CAN GET YOU FIRED AND IN PRISON.
I WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
I SELF-REPRESENTED AND THE CASE ENDED WHEN A JUDGE SENT IN
FROM ANOTHER CIRCUIT FROM THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT.
AND HE DISMISSED THE CASE AFTER ABOUT AN HOUR OF TIME, BUT
TOOK ME DISQUALIFYING SEVERAL JUDGES AND SEVEN MONTHS OF
BEING PROSECUTED AND BOUNCES FROM COURT ROOM TO COURT ROOM
AND FROM JUDGE TO JUDGE AND THROUGHOUT THIS CRIMINAL
PROCEEDING, I REQUESTED DOCUMENTS FROM THE CITY THAT I WAS
ENTITLED TO AS PART OF RECORD.
I PUT IN AT THAT REQUEST FOR THAT SAME INFORMATION, AND I
GET THIS INVOICE FOR $10,614.50.
AND YOU ALL, THE CITY, IS CLAIMING THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO
PUT 461 AND A HALF HOURS TOWARD FINDING WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE
HAD WHEN YOU WERE PROSECUTING ME.
SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN HERE BELIEVES THAT ANY ONE PERSON
OR ANY COMBINATION OF PEOPLE, ESSENTIALLY 12 HOURS A WEEK
TIMES -- OF WORKING TIME TO GET ME INFORMATION.
IN FACT, YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE IT TO ME BECAUSE I AM
ENTITLED TO UNDER FLORIDA LAW, CHAPTER 119 IN THE FLORIDA
STATUES OF SUNSHINE.
OUR GOVERNOR HAS ALREADY PUT ON THE RECORD THAT FLORIDA IS A
LAW AND ORDER STATE.
AND I APPRECIATE HIM DOING THAT.
AND NO ONE GETS TO DISREGARD THE LAWS THAT OUR LEGISLATURE
PUT IN PLACE.
I'M HERE HOPING THAT I CAN CONVINCE YOU ALL TO GET WHOEVER
IS RESPONSIBLE TO GET ME THE INFORMATION I REQUESTED.
AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO SOME SORT OF GO FUND ME TO HAVE
THE CITY DO WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU TAKE ME SERIOUSLY WHAT I AM ASKING FOR.
YOU ALL TAKE CARE.
09:54:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
09:54:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. CHAIRMAN .
09:54:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:54:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MASSEY, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH WHAT THIS
GENTLEMAN IS TALKING ABOUT, SIR?
$10,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR PUBLIC RECORDS.
09:55:07AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE EXACT ITEM, BUT
UNDER STATE LAW, AND UNDER OUR PUBLIC RECORDS -- WE HAVE A
PUBLIC RECORDS OFFICE.
AND WE DO -- AND WE DO CHARGE FOR STAFF TIME IF IT IS FOR AN
EXTRAORDINARY THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF TIME OR SPECIAL
-- SPECIAL TYPE OF SERVICES IN TRYING TO RETRIEVE ALL THE
RECORDS.
SO THAT IS STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE AND WE ARE ALLOWED
TO DO THAT UNDER STATE LAW.
THERE ARE CASES WHERE THAT HAS BEEN CHALLENGED BEFORE FOR
OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, AND THAT -- THE COURTS HAVE UPHELD OUR
ABILITY TO CHARGE FOR THOSE SORTS OF SERVICES.
09:55:51AM >> IF I MAY --
09:55:54AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I CAN'T LET YOU SPEAK RIGHT NOW.
MR. MASSEY, I UNDERSTAND ALL THOSE RULES.
MY CONCERN IS THE -- IF THERE IS A PUBLIC RECORD AND POLICE
ARRESTED PEOPLE OR DID ANYTHING TO IN GENTLEMAN IN 2017, IN
MY MIND, THEY SHOULD BE ALREADY RECORDS HELD ALREADY --
09:56:13AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
ALL I CAN DO -- I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THIS
IN PARTICULAR.
ALL I CAN DO IS -- WE WILL LOOK INTO IT AND ASK THE PUBLIC
RECORDS OFFICE.
09:56:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CAN YOU GET SOME INFORMATION?
I SEE SOMETHING WRONG HERE -- A LOT WRONG HERE.
I UNDERSTAND HOW SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE BECOME VICTIMS WHEN
YOU HAVE A CERTAIN KIND OF SKIN COLOR.
I HATE TO SAY THAT --
09:56:32AM >> SAY IT.
09:56:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE BOTTOM LINE I WANT INFORMATION.
I PROBABLY WILL BE GONE, BUT I KNOW SEVERAL COLLEAGUES WILL
BE HERE AND THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
TELL ME -- I WAS A POLICE OFFICER A LONG TIME.
THEY KEEP RECORDS.
09:56:43AM >> I KNOW THEY DO.
09:56:44AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GIVE YOUR NAME AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADDRESS
THAT.
09:56:48AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS.
LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, PARADISE
MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
THE REASON I KEEP COMING DOWN HERE IS BECAUSE I AM
CONCERNED.
YOU KNOW, I LIVE OUT THERE IN EAST TAMPA.
WHY DO WE HAVE ALL THE RETENTION PONDS IN EAST TAMPA WHEN
YOU OUGHT TO FILL THEM ALL UP AND BE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO
CAN'T AFFORD THESE EXPENSIVE HOMES Y'ALL HAVE.
AND PUT A RETENTION POND THERE THAN TO BUILD A HOME FOR THE
HOMELESS PEOPLE OR WHATEVER.
I BASICALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE BIBLE GIVES ME -- TELLS ME TO
TELL YOU ALL.
I DON'T KNOW 14.
LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED.
LET ME GET MY GLASSES.
I KNOW Y'ALL ARE GOING TO RUN ME OUT OF HERE IN A FEW
MINUTES.
BUT I -- A LOT OF STUFF I NEED NOW.
LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED.
JESUS CHRIST -- JESUS CHRIST -- BELIEVE IN GOD.
BELIEVE ALSO IN ME.
THIS IS JESUS TALKING.
AND MY FATHER HAVE MANY MANSIONS.
IF IT WERE NOT SO, I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU SO.
I GO TO A FAIR PLACE WITH YOU.
IF I GO TO PREPARE A PLACE FOR YOU, I WILL COME AGAIN AND
RECEIVE YOU UNTO MYSELF.
THAT IS WHERE I AM.
THERE YOU SHALL BE ALSO.
AND WHETHER I GO, YOU KNOW THE WAY.
SEE IT INTO HIM.
LORD, WE KNOW THOU WHETHER YOU GO'TH.
HOW CAN WE KNOW THE WAY.
JESUS SAID UNTO HIM, THIS JESUS TALKING, I'M THE WAY, THE
TRUTH AND THE LIGHT.
NO MAN COMING INTO THE FATHER ARE, BUT BY ME.
IF YOU HAVE KNOWN ME, YOU SHOULD HAVE KNOWN MY FATHER ALSO.
YOU KNOW WHY I COME OVER HERE MANY YEARS -- 20, 25 YEARS AGO
AND MAYBE LONGER THAN THAT BARRED ME FROM READING THE BIBLE
IN CITY COUNCIL.
BARRED ME FROM PRAYING IN CITY COUNCIL.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
I TALK TO GOD ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT GOD SAID, YOU ARE ASKING THE WRONG PEOPLE.
BARELY TALK TO GOD AND TALK TO Y'ALL.
DON'T WANT TO GET NOTHING DONE FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR.
BUT I WILL HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE WITH MY -- WITH MY STAND
AND KEEP ME UP.
BUT NOBODY SEEM TO CARE.
NOW I -- NOW MY CHURCH OVER THERE ON 1112 EAST SCOTT
STREET.
THEY ARE TRYING TO CLOSE IT DOWN.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, ONCE THEY CLOSE THAT DOWN, I HAVE TO GO
BACK TO THE STREETS AND PREACH AGAIN.
BUT I WANT TO TELL Y'ALL SOMETHING, I WISH GOD WILL BLESS
ALL OF Y'ALL.
AND KEEP OUR HEADS ABOVE THE WATER.
THANK GOD FOR HIM I PRAY.
LET ME GET OUT OF HERE.
10:00:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
10:00:37AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
REAL QUICKLY.
TO MR. GUDES' QUESTION.
URSULA RICHARDSON, THIS MATTER IS IN ACTIVE LITIGATION.
SHE WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THIS IS STANDARD OPERATING
PROCEDURE AND SOME OF THIS MATERIAL IS -- IS NOT STUFF THAT
--
[INAUDIBLE]
10:00:56AM >>URSULA RICHARDSON:
JUST SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE, THIS IS A
FEDERAL LAWSUIT IN FRONT OF CHARLENE HONEY WELL, JUDGE.
AND WE ARE IN THE DISCOVERY PROCESS.
AS PART OF THE DISCOVERY PROCESS, YOU CAN'T JUST GET FREE
RECORDS.
IF IT WILL TAKE ANY EXTRAORDINARY AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THE
RECORDS THAT MR. DAWSON -- I HAVEN'T ASKED FOR THE NEW
REQUEST.
HE SENT A PUBLIC RECORDS -- WHEN HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN
OPERATING IN THE CONFINES OF THE ACTUAL LAWSUIT, THE
DISCOVERY RULES.
HE I BELIEVE SENT AN ACTUAL DISCOVERY REQUEST.
I DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT EVEN IF
THE NEW REQUEST SENT THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS, BASICALLY
THERE ARE A LOT OF RECORDS THAT HE IS ASKING FOR.
HE IS REQUIRED TO BEAR THE COST OF ANY EXTRAORDINARY
REQUEST.
IF HE IS JUST ASKING FOR A POLICE REPORT, FIVE OR TEN PAGES,
THAT IS SOMETHING WE TURN OVER WITHOUT ANY ISSUE.
IF YOU ARE ASKING FOR THOUSANDS OF PAGES OF RECORDS, YOU ARE
NOT ENTITLED TO THOSE FOR FREE.
IF YOU ARE IN DISCOVERY YOU HAVE TO BEAR SOME COST OF
DISCOVERY WHEN BRINGING A LAWSUIT.
THAT IS THE SAME FOR THE CITY.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THOSE.
10:02:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU FOR RUNNING DOWN TO GIVE US MORE
EXPLANATION ON IT.
BUT THINK $10,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR RECORDS.
AGAIN, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THE GENTLEMAN WHAT HE NEEDS AND
THE CITY CAN GET WHAT THEY NEED AND MOVE ON.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE HE DID GET HEARD, BECAUSE TO ME, IT
RAISES AN EYEBROWS OF MY COLLEAGUES.
A LOT OF MONEY FOR SOME PUBLIC RECORDS.
10:02:27AM >>URSULA RICHARDSON:
LET ME JUST -- FOR THE RECORD SINCE WE
ARE ON FEDERAL LITIGATION AND JUDGE HONEYWELL IS IN CHARGE
OF A CASE.
WHEN WE ARE IN LAWSUIT YOU BRING IT FOR HER TO RESOLVE, NOT
CITY COUNCIL.
THE PROPER CHANNEL TO HAVE THE LAWSUIT RELATED ISSUES
RESOLVED IS THE FEDERAL JUDGE.
10:02:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A LOT OF TIME CITIZENS WANT SOMEONE TO HEAR
THEM AND GO I HAVE THEM HELP AND SEND THEM IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION.
10:02:51AM >>URSULA ROBERTSON:
I GET THAT MR. DAWSON IS A PRO SE
LITIGATOR SO HE IS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE SYSTEM.
10:02:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
FOR THE RECORD, STATE YOUR NAME.
10:03:01AM >>URSULA RICHARDSON:
SORRY, URSULA RICHARDSON, CHIEF OF
LITIGATION FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:03:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WISH TO SPEAK DURING
PUBLIC COMMENT?
MADAM CLERK, TWO PEOPLE ON LINE.
10:03:17AM >>CLERK:
MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:03:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
10:03:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH, AND I AM WITH THE WEST TAMPA
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
TODAY I WANT TO TALK OF A UPCOMING MEETING ON.
MAY 8, ENTITLED HELP PUBLIC SAFETY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THE STATE OF HEALTH OF AFRICAN AMERICANS IN WEST TAMPA.
A HOLISTIC AND NATURALISTIC APPROACH TO HELP THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN WEST TAMPA.
AS YOU KNOW, AFRICAN-AMERICANS SUFFER MORE WITH DIABETES,
BLOOD PRESSURE, HEART DISEASE, OBESITY, ETC.
PUBLIC HEALTH SAFETY INITIATIVE COMBINES THESE INITIATIVES
TO INCREASE THE HEALTH IN WEST TAMPA WHEN WE TALK OF HEALTH
AND PUBLIC SAFETY, WE DEAL WITH VIOLENCE.
LITTLE DO PEOPLE KNOW THAT YOU COULD DIE --
[INAUDIBLE]
-- THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THE OTHER THING IS WHAT WE CALL INTERGENERATIONAL HEALTH
EFFECTS THE CYCLE.
IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY AFRICAN-AMERICANS SUFFER SO
MUCH FROM THESE HEALTH DISEASES, THIS WILL BE A GOOD PLACE
TO LOOK.
THE OTHER THING IS, HEALTH AND SOCIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
WHAT EFFECTS DOES VIOLENCE HAVE ON HEALTH IN WEST TAMPA AND
WHAT EFFECTS GENERATIONAL HEALTH.
AND WE WILL PARTNERSHIP WITH BRICE WILLIAMS AND HEALTH
CLINICS TO DESIGN THE STRATEGY THAT REDUCES THE -- THE
NUMBERS AS IT RELATES TO HEALTH AS PART MUCH OUR HEALTH,
PUBLIC SAFETY AND SOCIAL ECONOMIC INITIATIVE.
WE WANT TO CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IN WEST TAMPA.
THAT MEANS YOU CAN GO TO WORK.
IT ALSO MEANS YOU CAN LIVE IN A BETTER ENVIRONMENT.
I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT MORE THAN WHAT MR. WALTER
SMITH TALKED ABOUT AND THE INVOLVEMENT, HOW IT AFFECTS TAMPA
AS PART OF THE TEAM TO TALK ABOUT OUR HEALTH INITIATIVE.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT.
HEALTH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE
CONNECTED.
THE MEETING OFTEN MAY 8.
IT WILL CHANGE THE NARRATIVE AS WE LOOK AT PUBLIC HEALTH IN
WEST TAMPA THANK YOU.
10:06:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ONE THING WE NEED TO CLEAR UP.
I APOLOGIZE.
HEAD OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 51 CONTINUED UNTIL MAY 4.
10:06:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 51 TO BE CONTINUED TO MAY 4.
10:06:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
10:06:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO OPEN THE 9:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:06:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION OPEN THE 9:30 BY COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NUMBER PH 23-80 973.
10:06:58AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, COUNCIL.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME.
THIS IS A REQUEST BY THE TAMPA PREPARATORY SCHOOL TO ISSUE
APPROXIMATELY $13 MILLION IN CONDUIT DEBT FOR CONSTRUCTION
OF A NEW SCIENCE BUILDING AND OTHER RENOVATIONS.
AS COUNCIL KNOWS, IT IS CALLED A CONDUIT DEBT ISSUANCE
BECAUSE THE CITY IS SIMPLY A PASS THROUGH OR CONDUIT FOR THE
ACTION.
AS A RESULT, NO FINANCIAL NOR LEGAL LIABILITY ON THE PART OF
THE CITY.
THE CITY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEBT.
TAMPA PREP IS.
COUNCIL WILL RECALL WE HAVE DONE SIMILAR PROJECTS IN A
PUBLIC PURPOSE PERSPECTIVE FOR OTHER ENTITIES.
WE PROVIDED A MEMO FOR YOU WITH ADDITIONAL DETAIL.
SOME OF THE RECENT EXAMPLES WAS THE MOFFITT CANCER CENTER,
EXCUSE ME, AND THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AGAIN, WE HAVE
PROVIDED A MEMO TO COUNCIL WITH ADDITIONAL DETAIL.
I'M HERE ALONG WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND MR. PLUMMER,
THE HEAD OF TAMPA PREP, TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY
HAVE.
10:08:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:08:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO WHEN WE ACT AS A CONDUIT, WE CHARGE A
MINIMUM INTEREST RATE, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:08:16AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
WE CHARGE A FEE FROM THE WORK THAT THE CITY
OF TAMPA IS DOING.
AND THEN THE EXTERNAL FINANCIAL TEAM ALSO CHARGES A FEE.
WE DON'T PARTICULARLY CHARGE THE INTEREST.
THE INTEREST IS ON THE DEBT ISSUANCE.
10:08:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW MUCH DOES THE CITY EARN FROM THIS
CONDUIT?
10:08:36AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
IN THIS INSTANCE, WE EARN $58,000 FOR OUR
WORK ON THE ITEM.
10:08:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:08:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU KNOW WE GET CALLS AND E-MAILS OF THIS
SITUATION.
I WILL SAY IN THE FUTURE MAYBE WITH THE MEMOS THAT COME OUT
WITH REGARD TO THESE, A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL SO THE PUBLIC
WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHY WE ARE DOING IT.
YOU KNOW, THEY WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CITY'S BENEFIT IS
AND WHAT BENEFIT WE GET AND THE BENEFIT PURPOSE OF THE
ENTITY ASKING TO DO THIS FAVOR FOR THEM.
I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE CUT TOWN A LOT OF THE CHATTER OF WHY
-- CITY MONEY.
HOW TO PAY THIS BACK.
THE BOND.
IN THE FUTURE, A LITTLE MORE DETAIL UP FRONT SO THE PUBLIC
DON'T HAVE TO WORRY.
I KNOW WHAT IT IS.
WE HAVE BEEN DOING IT.
BUT OTHERS DON'T KNOW.
10:09:27AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMAN, AN EXCELLENT
IDEA.
WE WILL RIGHT THAT IT HAS NO CITY LIABILITY WHETHER IT IS
FINANCIAL OR LEGAL.
THANK YOU.
10:09:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:09:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
I APPRECIATE IT.
YOU STATE IT DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING TO US.
WE WILL NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE $13 MILLION AND I AM NOT
TALKING ABOUT THIS ENTITY, THE SCHOOL, OF COURSE, ANY ENTITY
WE DO THIS FOR.
HAS TO BE THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEBT.
NOT US.
IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG, WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING
HELD LIABLE.
AM I CORRECT?
10:10:03AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, SIR.
10:10:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:10:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU SAID IT TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT WAYS BUT
WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING
AND WE ARE NOT LIABLE.
CAN I ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION?
10:10:16AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, SIR.
10:10:17AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT WAS ON THE SPACE
BEFORE TAMPA PREP USED TO BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE AND THEY
MOVED ACROSS THE STREET.
IS THIS -- ARE THEY LEASING PARK LAND FROM US?
IS THIS CITY LAND THEY ARE ON?
10:10:29AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
MY UNDERSTANDING -- AND, OF COURSE, MR.
PLUMMER CAN ADD ADDITIONAL INFORMATION -- IT IS CONTAINED
WITHIN THEIR FORMER FOOTPRINT.
10:10:38AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO, I MEAN THE LAND THEY ARE ON, CITY LAND
LIKE U.T. THAT THEY LEASE FOR US.
10:10:44AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I DO NOT KNOW.
MR. MASSEY MAY.
10:10:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THIS JUST THE OTHER DAY.
10:10:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WAS ASKING ME WHAT WAS HERE BEFORE THIS
WAS HERE.
IF I REMEMBER, THAT WAS PHILLIP'S FIELD ON ONE SIDE THERE.
SO THE WEST SIDE AND PLYMOUTH TO THE EAST SIDE.
AND THERE WERE IN FACT -- IT WAS THE FIRST NFL FIELD GAME OR
SOMETHING THAT WAS PLAYED THERE BACK IN THE '50s OR EARLY
'60s.
I FORGET.
MAYBE I AM WRONG BUT WHAT I REMEMBER GROWING UP.
10:11:20AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
YOU MAY BE RIGHT, MR. MIRANDA.
BEFORE TAMPA PREP BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IT WAS A PRIVATE
PROPERTY AND A DEVELOPMENT OF REGIONAL IMPACT THAT THEY
GOTTEN AND ABANDONED IT AND SOLD IT TO TAMPA.
10:11:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING OF PHYSICAL
THINGS.
10:11:38AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
IT IS NOT CITY.
10:11:40AM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOT CITY PROPERTY.
I REMEMBER -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ADJACENT TO U.T.
NEVER EXPECT IT TO GROW OUT THAT WAY AND U.T. FILLED UP THAT
ENTIRE LAND.
10:11:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
U.T. IS ALL THE WAY TO SEFFNER HILLS.
10:12:05AM >> ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
THIS IS A HEARING DETAILS I WANT TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
THANK YOU.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED ISSUANCE OF THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, REVENUE BOND TAMPA PREPARATORY
SCHOOL PROJECT SERIES 2023 IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $13
MILLION.
CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE HOLDING OF THE HEARING ON THE
REGULAR MEETING APRIL 6, 2023.
NOTICE OF THIS HEARING ARE WAS PUBLISHED ON THE CITY'S WEB
SITE COMMENCING ON APRIL 10, 2023.
PROCEEDS OF THE BOND WILL BE LOANED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA --
LOANED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA TO TAMPA PREPARATORY SCHOOL, A
FLORIDA NONPROFIT CORPORATION HERE AND AFTER REFERRED TO AS
THE BORROWER.
THE BORROWER OWN AS PRIVATE SCHOOL TAMPA PREPARATORY SCHOOL
SERVING STUDENTS GRADES 6-12.
PROCEEDS WILL BE USED BY THE BORROWER TO FINANCE THE COST OF
A NEW 30,000-SQUARE-FOOT SCIENCE ADMINISTRATION BUILDINGS
AND RENOVATION OF APPROXIMATELY 15,000 SQUARE FEET SPACE IN
THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR OF THE EXIST CLASSROOM BUILDINGS.
TWO, PAY CERTAIN COSTS OF ISSUANCE OF THE BOND.
LOCATED AT THE BORROWER EXISTING CAMPUS, 727 WEST CASS
STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
TO BE OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE BORROWER.
FUNDS PAID BY THE BORROWER OF A FINANCE AGREEMENT AND OTHER
FINANCING DOCUMENTS TO BE EXECUTED AMONG THE CITY, THE
BORROWER AND TRUIST BANK.
THE BOND IS TO BE PRIVATELY PLACED WITH TRUIST BANK TO
EVIDENCE THE LOAN IN THE BENEFIT OF THE BORROWER.
NEITHER THE BOND NOR THE INTEREST SHALL BE AN INDEBTEDNESS
OF A PLEDGE OF THE TAXING POWER OR ANY OTHER REVENUES OF THE
CITY, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THE STATE OF FLORIDA, OR ANY
OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OR AGENCY THEREOF.
THE BOND WILL BE A SPECIAL AND LIMITED OBLIGATION OF THE
CITY PAID SOLELY BY THE LOAN PAYMENTS BY THE BORROWER, 147F
OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986.
ANYONE WISHING TO BE HEARD ON THE ISSUANCE OF THE BOND OR
NATURE OF THE PROJECT DESCRIBED IN THE PUBLIC NOTICE WILL
NOW BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
THAT IS ALL.
10:14:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WILLING TO SPEAK ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3,
FILE NUMBER PH 23-80973.
MADAM CLERK, I DO NOT SEE ANYONE ONLINE?
10:14:44AM >>CLERK:
NONE.
10:14:46AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
10:14:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS KEVIN PLUMMER, HEAD OF SCHOOL TAMPA PREPARATORY
SCHOOL WITH MY COLLEAGUE MR. JAMIE MARQUEZ, OUR INTERIM
DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND OPERATIONS.
THERE IS -- THERE ARE MANY OPINIONS ABOUT OUR SCHOOL AND
SADLY NOT MANY PEOPLE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN THERE AS MANY AS I
WOULD LIKE.
BUT I WANTED TO JUST GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF FACTS THIS MORNING
ABOUT OUR SCHOOL.
TAMPA PREP WAS FOUNDED IN 1974, 3801 ALUMNI AND SERVES 705
STUDENTS ABOUT 130 EMPLOYEES.
STUD TENT BODY REPRESENTS 30 DIFFERENT ZIP CODES OF THE
TAMPA BAY REGION WITH MORE THAN 510 STUDENTS COMING FROM
TAMPA WE ALSO SERVE STUDENTS FROM BRANDON, LUTZ, RIVERVIEW,
APOLLO BEACH, LITHIA, ST. PETERSBURG, TEMPLE TERRACE,
VALRICO, WESLEY CHAPEL, THONOTOSASSA, LAND O LAKES, RUSKIN,
CLEARWATER, TARPON SPRINGS, PALM HARBOR, AND SAFETY HARBOR.
WE ARE KNOWN FOR STUDENTS' KINDNESS, OUR COMMITMENT TO
DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND ATHLETIC.
WE WON 36 CHAMPIONSHIPS AND WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.
$2.4 MILLION IN NEED-BASED FINANCIAL AID WITH AN AVERAGE
AWARD OF $10,000.
40% OUR STUDENTS ARE STUDENTS OF COLOR AND TAMPA PREP,
HAVING NO RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION IS HOME TO CHRISTIANS,
HINDUS, MUSLIMS, JEWS AND SIKHS.
TAMPA PREP HAS SERVED AND WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE THE GREATER
NEEDS OF TAMPA AND THE TAMPA BAY REGION.
WE PARTNERED WITH THE CITY ON IMPORTANT MATTERS FOR OUR CITY
INCLUDING THE SUPPORT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS FOR THE
REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION WHERE WE CLOSED OUR SCHOOL
FOR A WEEK TO SUPPORT THE NATIONAL GUARD, THE TAMPA
IMPLEMENT AND MORE THAN 3,000 OFFICERS FROM A VARIETY OF
AGENCIES ACROSS FLORIDA.
WE HAVE BEEN AN INSTRUMENTAL PARTNER IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF
THE RESPONSIBILITY MATTERS CAMPAIGN FOR GASPARILLA AND
SUPPORTED THE NATIONAL EVENTS THAT INCLUDED TWO SUPER BOWLS,
COLLEGE NATIONAL FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP NCAA WOMEN'S FINAL
FOUR NCAA BASEBALL CHAMPIONSHIP AS NEEDS FOR THE STRAZ
PERFORMING, PIG GIG, THE METROPOLITAN MINISTRIES, MEALS ON
WHEELS, THE RECENT FORUM ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND TWO WEEKS
HOST ANOTHER PUBLIC FORUM ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
COMMITTED TO THE 813 AND THE 7200 AS YOU EVER WOULD FIND.
PROJECT IS A $27 MILLION STATEMENT TO THE FUTURE OF
EDUCATION.
A BUILDING WITH ASPIRATION TO MODEL THE DIRECTION OF SCIENCE
INSTRUCTION FOR THE NEXT 20 TO 30 YEARS.
WHERE PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE USF COLLEGE OF MEDICINE, YOU,
THE CENTER OF MEDICAL SIMULATION, TAMPA GENERAL APT, ADVENT,
BAY CARE HEALTH SYSTEMS AND MOFFITT AND THERE THRIVE.
THIS PROJECT IS A JOB CREATOR MORE THAN 400 JOBS FOR TAMPA
OVER THE NEXT 16 MONTHS.
THE BELL WENT OFF.
SO I WILL JUST CLOSE.
10:17:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
15 SECONDS.
10:17:58AM >> 15 SECONDS.
I WILL CLOSE WITH THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND WE
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
10:18:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:18:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT UP PHILLIPS
BUT THE GUY YOU KNEW JOHN METUZAK THAT PLAYED THERE.
LATER WAS IN THE MOVIE "THE GOONIES."
10:18:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE A PICTURE IN MY WALLET.
IT WAS -- I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE FIRST PRESEASON PLAYOFF
PROFESSIONAL GAME -- NOT PLAYOFF GAME, BUT PRESEASON GAME
THAT WAS DONE IN TAMPA AND WAS BROUGHT OVER BY, I THINK, THE
BROTHERS THAT HAD THE PRINT SHOP AND THE -- THE LAPEL PINS
AND STUFF LIKE THAT WONDERFUL GUYS.
LEVY BROTHERS.
THE BIG GUY.
I FORGOT HIS NAME.
USED TO CALL HIM BIG GUY BECAUSE HE WAS BIG.
THEY STARTED THAT MOVEMENT TO BRING THE FIRST PRESEASON GAME
OF FOOTBALL THERE AND ALSO THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP THAT I SAW
LARRY SMITH, WHICH IS A RUNNING BACK AT ROBINSON AND LARRY
SMITH, I THINK WAS HIS NAME, A QUARTERBACK AND TEAM FROM
MIAMI STARTING QUARTERBACK LARRY RENTS.
WENT ON TO BE THE QUARTERBACK AT THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.
AND TAMPA WAS BEATING HIM THE LAST 150 TO 15 SECONDS WHEN
LARRY KICKED A 35-FOOT FIELD GOAL AND I LOST ALL MY HAIR IN
THE EXCITEMENT.
[LAUGHTER]
10:19:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS LOCKETT, I SEE YOU STAND THERE.
YOU WANTED TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:19:41AM >> GOOD MORNING, ROBIN LOCKETT.
IN REGARDS TO THIS, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE PROCESS?
AND IN REGARDS TO OTHER ENTITIES HAVING RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE CITY AS A CONDUIT.
WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF THAT?
AND CAN ANYONE DO IT?
BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE CITY PARTNERS LIKE THIS.
AND ASSISTS.
WHAT IS THE PROCESS AND CAN ANYONE -- CAN OTHER ENTITIES
HAVE THE SAME PRIVILEGE?
10:20:14AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YES, THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICERS.
YES, THE PROCESS INCLUDES -- EXCUSE ME -- WHAT WE ARE GOING
THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
TYPICALLY A PUBLIC PURPOSE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH A NONPROFIT
ORGANIZATION.
AGAIN WE HAVE DONE THEM IN THE PAST.
IF I CAN OFFER A FEW EXAMPLES THAT MAY SHED SOME CONTEXT.
THE VOLUNTEERS OF, PAY CARE HEALTH, PEPIN ACADEMY, AND LOWRY
PARK ZOO.
A NONPROFIT WILL COME US TO TRYING TO ISSUE DEBT THAT IS TAX
EXEMPT.
THE PRESENCE OF A TAX EXEMPT IF YOU ARE A INVESTOR, YOU
DON'T PAY FEDERAL TAXES ON YOUR INTEREST.
YOU GET YOUR RETURN AND YOU DON'T PAY TAXES ON IT.
THAT IS GREAT.
YOU ARE WILLING TO ACCEPT A LITTLE BIT OF A LOWER INTEREST
RATE THAT LOWERS THE BORROWING COST FOR THE ENTITY DOING THE
BORROWING.
TAMPA PREP WILL HAVE A LOWER COST.
GOOD FOR THEM.
A WIN, WIN.
A PUBLIC PURPOSE THAT CITY COUNCIL AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
AND BOND COUNCIL HAVE TO DECIDE IT IS A PUBLIC PURPOSE AND
THE REVENUE STREAM TO PAY BACK THE DEBT HAS TO BE
SCRUTINIZED.
10:21:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. ROGERO.
IF NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIED.
YOU MOVED THE RESOLUTION.
10:21:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES, I DID.
10:21:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 22-25.
10:22:04AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
SAM THOMAS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
22-25 AT 1236 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO
REGIONAL MIXED USE-100.
RECEIVED APPROVAL IN WHY YOU ARE MARCH 23 MEETING AND BACK
BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:22:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
EVENING ITEM NUMBER 4?
TA/CPA 22-25?
10:22:40AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:22:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
10:22:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ARE YOU WANTING TO SPEAK?
10:22:47AM >> I AM GOING TO RESTATE WHAT SAM SAID.
RECEIVED APPROVAL ON -- ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY
DRIVE.
WE REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL TODAY TOO.
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
10:22:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION TO CHOSE FROM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSE?
MOTION PASSES.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:23:10AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE
NUMBER TA/CPA 22-25, ORDINANCE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
OF AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT FOR PROPERTY 1236 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE
FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL HI TO RESIDENTIAL MIXED
USE-100, REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY.
10:23:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:23:47AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:23:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL.
IF ANYONE IS GOING TO MAKE ANY TYPES OF COMMENTS OR GIVE ANY
TYPE OF EVIDENCE, PLEASE RISE TO BE SWORN IN.
[SWEARING IN]
10:24:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGENDA ITEM 5, FILE NUMBER AB 2-23-03.
10:24:23AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION.
A REQUEST FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES FOR THE PROPERTY
LOCATED 5017 EAST WASHINGTON.
FOR A REQUEST FOR A LARGE VENUE AND CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE
ONLY.
FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING.
THEY HAVE BEEN MADE AND SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND
DELIVERED TO THE CLERK.
STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:24:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
THANK YOU.
PETITIONER?
10:25:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, JAIME MAIER FOR THE APPLICANT, 101 E.
KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.
WE ARE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND WILL RESPECT AN APPROVAL.
THANK YOU.
10:25:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR PETITIONER?
ANYONE IN CHAMBERS TO MAKE COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE
NUMBER AB 2-23-03.
MADAM CLERK, ANYONE ON LINE.
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
10:25:34AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ORDINANCE SECOND READING ADOPTION SPECIAL USE
PERMIT SU-2 FOR LARGE SALES, CONSUMPTION MAKING LAWFUL THE
SALE OF.
BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR LOCATED 507 EAST WASHINGTON STREET,
TAMPA, FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3,
PROVIDING ORDINANCES, PARTS OF ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT OF
REPEALING ORDINANCES 2021-24 PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:26:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:26:09AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:26:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 FILE NUMBER
AB 2-23-04.
10:26:27AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT
COORDINATION.
IN IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
ALCOHOL BEVERAGE SALES.
CONSUMPTION ON-PREMISE ONLY AND REQUESTING BEER AND WINE.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY 3407 AND 3409 SOUTH DALE MABRY
HIGHWAY.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED FOR THIS APPLICATION.
THOSE CHANGES WERE MADE.
THE SITE PLAN WAS CERTIFIED AND HAVE BEEN DELIVERED TO THE
COLLECT CLERK.
I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:26:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:27:01AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:27:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PETITIONER.
10:27:04AM >> HELLO, ELIZABETH KELLAR ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, 1,000
WEST CASS STREET.
WE HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.
THANK YOU.
AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:27:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR PETITIONER?
SEEING NONE.
ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WANT TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TO ITEM
NUMBER 6, AB 2-23-04?
SEEING NONE, MADAM CLERK.
10:27:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:27:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
10:27:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSE?
MOTION CARRIES.
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:27:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION SU, SMALL VENUE
ON-PREMISE ONLY AND SALE OF BEER AND WINE IN THAT LOT 3407
AND 3409 SOUTH DALE MABRY HIGHWAY, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING ALL
ORDINANCES BE REPEALED.
AND PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:28:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:28:12AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:28:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7.
PARDON ME, I AM SORRY?
10:28:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE DON'T START IN THE 10:30.
TEN MINUTES.
10:28:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
LET'S TAKE A THREE-MINUTE BREAK.
10:28:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION TO OPEN 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE NUMBER REZ-22-132.
10:34:10AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
COUNCIL, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING
AND ADOPTION.
THIS PROJECT IS THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
LOCATED IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2609 NORTH ROME AVENUE
AND 2301 NORTH OREGON AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM NMU-35 TO PD,
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
IT IS FOR THE ALLOWABLE USES OF ALL NMU-5 USES, RETAIL
SALES, SHOPPER GOODS, BUSINESS SCHOOLS AND VOCATIONAL
SCHOOL.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
CHANGES WERE MADE AND DELIVERED TO THE CLERK.
I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:35:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
SEEING NONE.
PETITIONER?
10:35:08AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
NICOLE NEUGEBAUER AT STEARNS WEAVER.
I'M HERE AND THE DEVELOPER IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS.
WE ARE AVAILABLE AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU.
10:35:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
THANK YOU.
ANY PUBLIC -- ANY COMMENTS FROM PUBLIC -- FOR PUBLIC
COMMENTS.
EXCUSE ME.
EASY FOR ME TO SAY.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK?
10:35:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:35:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:35:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE NUMBER REZ-22-132, ORDINANCE PRESENTED
FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2609 NORTH ROME AVENUE AND 2301
NORTH OREGON AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION NMU-35, NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE 35, TO PD,
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ALL NMU 35 USES, RETAIL SALES,
SHOPPER'S GOODS, BUSINESS SCHOOL AND VOCATIONAL SCHOOL
PROCEEDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:36:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
10:36:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
PLEASE PLACE YOUR VOTE AND RECORD.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:36:32AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I SAID THIS LAST TIME.
A LOT OF CONCERNS IN THE PUBLIC OF THE WAY THE CITY HANDLED
THE RFP ON THIS ORIGINAL PROJECT.
I WANT TO STATE FOR ANYONE WATCHING WHO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT
THAT, THIS IS A SEPARATE ISSUE.
THESE ARE SEPARATE ISSUES AND THAT DECISION WAS MADE A
COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BY THE CITY AND SEPARATE FROM THIS.
I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
THANK YOU.
10:36:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:37:01AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE NUMBER PH 23-80116.
10:37:11AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
GOOD MORNING, REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL
DEPARTMENT.
THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE
RIVERWALK AGREEMENT FOR THE ROME YARD PROJECT.
FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WAS LAST THURSDAY APRIL 13.
THE DEVELOPER IS HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND WE ARE
HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:37:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
PETITIONER?
10:37:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, NICOLE NEUGEBAUER.
I AM STILL HERE WITH THE DEVELOPER IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS.
10:37:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, FILE NUMBER PH 23-80116.
SEEING NONE.
MADAM CLERK, NO ONE ONLINE.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO CLOSE.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OBJECTIONS?
MOTION CARRIES.
10:38:07AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:38:09AM >> SECOND.
10:38:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:38:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL DO THIS ON THE NEXT THREE ALSO.
I WANT TO SAY IT ON THE RECORD IN CASE PEOPLE ARE MAKING
FLYERS IN THE FUTURE THAT THIS IS NOTHING DO WITH THE
ORIGINAL RFP WITH THE CITY.
AND THIS IS SEPARATE FROM THE DECISION.
10:38:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-81029.
10:38:46AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
GOOD MORNING, REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL
DEPARTMENT.
APPROVAL THE ROME YARD AGENCY TESTIMONIAL AND DESIGN REVIEW
GUIDELINES.
THAT WAS PART OF THE REZONING THAT WAS JUST APPROVED.
THOSE GUIDELINES ARE REQUIRED TO BE PURSUED WITH THE LAND
DISPOSITION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES.
I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:39:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
PETITIONER?
NICOLE NEUGEBAUER.
I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
10:39:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TO FILE
NUMBER 9, BZP 23-01029.
ANYONE ONLINE?
MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
WHAT THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
10:39:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:39:43AM >> SECOND.
10:39:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO MOVE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
10:39:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY, I WANT TO AGAIN -- I WILL DO THIS ONE
MORE TIME FOR THE RECORD, FOR ANYONE IN THE COMMUNITY HOP
ARE CONCERNED OF THE WAY THE CITY HANDLED THE ORIGINAL RFP
ON THIS PROCESS MADE IT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND DIFFERENT
AND SEPARATE FROM THIS.
THANK YOU.
10:40:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSE?
MOTION CARRIES.
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-81028.
10:40:18AM >>REBECCA JOHNS:
REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ROME YARD PHASING AND TIMING
PLAN.
THE PHASING AND TIMING PLAN WAS AN EXHIBIT OR AN EXHIBIT TO
THE MASTER INFRASTRUCTURE AND RIVER WALK AGREEMENT THAT WAS
JUST APPROVED.
THIS APPROVAL IS REQUIRED BY THE LAND DISPOSITION AGREEMENT
BETWEEN THE PARTIES.
I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:40:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
PETITIONER?
10:40:42AM >> LAST TIME.
GOOD MORNING, NICOLE NEUGEBAUER, EAST JACKSON STREET, FOR THE
RECORD.
I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANKS.
10:40:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS -- DON'T SAY LAST TIME.
I AM SURE YOU WILL BE HERE IN THE FUTURE.
ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT TO
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-81028.
MADAM CLERK.
NO ONE ON LINE.
MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
10:41:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION --
10:41:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
10:41:28AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, SIR.
10:41:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:41:31AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ONCE AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, ANY MEMBERS OF
THE PUBLIC WHO WAS CONCERNED OF THE ORIGINAL RFP ON THIS.
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THE DECISION WAS MADE.
THIS IS ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AND SO I
SUPPORT IT.
THANK YOU.
10:41:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
WE ARE GOING INTO AGAIN QUASI-JUDICIAL, AND I SAW PEOPLE
COME IN WHO WEREN'T SWORN IN BEFORE.
IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN AND GOING TO GIVE ANY TYPE OF
TESTIMONY OR ANY TYPE OF EVIDENCE, PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN
IN.
OKAY.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11.
FILE NUMBER VAC-23-04.
10:42:30AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
PRESENTING VAC-23-04.
ASK THE CLERK TO SHARE MY SCREEN PLEASE.
10:42:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
I DO NOT SEE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
10:42:47AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
AGAIN, ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT,
PRESENTING VAC-23-04.
A VACATING REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS ALEX GONZALEZ, JR.
PROPERTY ADDRESS.
TO VACATE A PORTION OF ALBANY AVENUE FROM FRIERSON AVENUE,
SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, EAST OF HOWARD AVENUE AND WEST
OF MENDENHALL DRIVE.
FILED IN 2022.
THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON THE LEFT SIDE THAT HAVE ASKED
TO BE VACATED.
TO PROVIDE INGRESS AND EGRESS FOR A STRIP PLAZA.
THE EXISTING ALLEY IS 13,350 SQUARE FEET.
AN AERIAL VIEW SHOWING THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
PORTION OF ALBANY REQUEST TO BE VACATED IS IN YELLOW.
APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED.
AGAIN, SHOWING THE PLAT, SUBDIVISION PLAT, DEDICATED ALBANY
AVENUE.
A PORTION OF THE REQUEST TO BE VACATED IN RED.
THERE IS AN INTERNAL ATLAS SHEET SHOWING PREVIOUS VACATINGS
IN THE AREA.
THE PORTION OF ALBANY AVENUE IN RED THAT IS REQUESTED TO BE
VACATED.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH FROM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE NEAR THE
OWNER'S PROPERTY AND THE REQUESTED ALBANY AVENUE TO BE
VACATED.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTHWEST FROM NORTH ALEXANDER ROAD.
AGAIN, THE GENERAL AREA OF NORTH ALBANY, THE PLATTED NORTH
ALBANY IS REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
EASEMENT RESERVATIONS REQUIRED BY TECO.
SPECIAL CONDITIONS FROM NATURAL RESOURCES.
MUST COMPLY TO CHAPTER 27 OF TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE
DESIGN FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS PLACED IN PLACE OF TREES
VACATED.
I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:45:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, MR. SAMONS.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
PETITIONER?
10:45:18AM >>RON WIGGINTON:
RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I BELIEVE THE PETITIONER NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
10:45:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS THAT WILL BE GIVING ANY TYPE OF
TESTIMONY, THE REST OF THE QUASI JUDICIAL, WILL YOU PLEASE
RISE TO BE SWORN IN.
[SWEARING IN]
10:45:49AM >> I AM THE APPLICANT.
10:45:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
FORGIVE ME ONE SECOND.
SIR, ARE YOU GOING TO BE SWORN?
DO YOU HAVE A CASE BEFORE US TODAY?
DO YOU HAVE --
10:45:59AM >> YEAH, I HAVE A CASE --
10:46:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
PLEASE RISE AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND
SWEAR IN.
10:46:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
STAND UP.
10:46:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
[SWEARING IN]
10:46:13AM >> YES.
10:46:14AM >>CLERK:
THANK YOU.
10:46:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
YES, SIR, PLEASE PROCEED.
10:46:19AM >> APPLICANT AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
WE HAD TO DO THE PETITION BECAUSE TWO LOTS ON THE REAR OF
THE PROPERTY.
THIS RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS PLOTTED ONLY HALF OF A ROADWAY.
THE OTHER HALF WAS NEVER DEDICATED BY THE ADJOINING PROPERTY
OWNERS.
SO NO WAY FOR ME TO DEVELOP A ROAD AND ACCESS MY REAR LOTS.
THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE VACATING.
MAKE THE PROJECT MORE -- MORE ENTICING.
THE OTHER PROBLEM IS THE ACCESS -- LIKE I SAID, WATER AND
SEWER.
MY OTHER PROBLEM IS THAT I CAN'T DESIGN ANYTHING UNTIL I
KNOW WHERE THIS IS HEADED WITH THE VACATING.
THAT IS THE ONLY -- IF ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM
PLEASED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:47:07AM >> ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
SIR, FROM THE AERIAL, IT LOOKS AS IF THIS ALLEYWAY IS
CLOGGED WITH TREES.
10:47:20AM >> YES, IT IS.
10:47:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IMPASSIBLE.
10:47:24AM >> MY SURVEYOR HAD PROBLEMS WITH IT AND HAD TO PUT STAKES
BECAUSE FILLED WITH BRAZILIAN PEPPERS.
NO -- NO GRAND OAK TREES ARE THERE.
SOME AUSTRALIAN PINES ON THE PROPERTY.
BUT IT IS INFESTED WITH AUSTRALIAN PEPPERS.
10:47:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK -- IN
CHAMBERS WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER
11, VAC-23-04.
10:47:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:48:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
10:48:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:48:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, FILE NUMBER 11, FILE
NUMBER VAC-23 -04.
ORDER NANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING,
DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THAT PORTION OF THE UNIMPROVED
ALBANY AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH OF
UNIMPROVED FRIERSON AVENUE, SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE,
EAST OF HOWARD AVENUE, WEST OF MENDENHALL DRIVE WITHIN THE
PLATTED ZAMBITO SUBDIVISION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA,ING FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND
RESTRICTIONS AND MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
PROVIDING FOR DEFENSE NEGLECTING PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
10:49:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
FEV MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:49:07AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:49:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:49:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:49:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:49:10AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:49:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
10:49:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
10:49:14AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPT MAY 8, 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:49:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, FILE NUMBER VAC-23-07.
10:49:33AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
PRESENTING VAC-23-07.FIRST READING FOR A PROPOSED REZONING
ASK.
APPLICANT IS RODOLFO SCHEFER.
TO VACATE A PORTION OF WEST JUNEAU STREET OF WILMA AND WEST
OF N. BOULEVARD.
EAST OF EDISON AVENUE.
THIS ACTION WAS FILED DECEMBER 9, 2022.
THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY THAT IS PROPOSING TO BE VACATED.
THE STREET WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT.
THIS EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 12,350 SQUARE
FEET.
AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN YELLOW.
OWNER'S PROPERTY IN RED.
AND SHOWING THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN RED WITHIN THE
SUBDIVISION PLAT.
AGAIN, THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN RED.
THIS IS WITHIN A SECTION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA INTERNAL
ATLAS, AGAIN, SHOWING PREVIOUS VACATES IN THE AREA.
THEY ARE HATCHED WITH THESE ALLEYS.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST FROM WEST JUNEAU STREET.
AND APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE STREET OR ALLEY TO IT BE
VACATED.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST FROM NORTH BOULEVARD AT THE END OF THE
APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE STREET TO BE VACATED -- PROPOSED
TO BE VACATED, I AM SORRY.
STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE VACATING REQUEST.
EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED BY SPECTRUM AND TECO.
SPECIAL CONDITIONS INCLUDE NATURAL RESOURCES AND FIRE.
NATURAL RESOURCES TO COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 WITH REGARD TO
TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN.
PLACEMENT OF TREES IN THE VACATED AREA.
IT NEEDS TO MEET ALL FIRE REGULATIONS.
THAT IS MY PRESENTATION.
I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:51:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
THANK YOU.
PETITIONER?
YES, SIR.
10:52:11AM >> HI, MY NAME IS RODOFO SCHEFER, I LIVE NORTH EDISON
AVENUE.
I COME HERE TO VACATE A VACANCY OF THE JUNEAU STREET.
10:52:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
IS THERE ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO MAKE PUBLIC
COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, FILE NUMBER VAC-23-07.
MADAM CLERK, ANYONE ON LINE?
10:52:48AM >>CLERK:
NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
10:52:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:52:52AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SECOND.
10:52:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:53:03AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE FILE NUMBER VAC-23-07.
ORDINANCE PRESENTED ORDINANCE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, CLOSE, DISCONTINUING OR ABANDONING THAT PORTION OF
JUNEAU STREET LOCATED NORTH OF SITKA STREET SOUTH OF WATERS
AVENUE, EAST OF EDISON AVENUE AND WEST OF N. BOULEVARD WITH
THE PLAT OF WILMA SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, FULLY DESCRIBED IN EXCEPTION 2
HEREOF, CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS
PARTICULARLY SET FORTH, PROVIDING FOR PENALTY FOR
VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND
REPEALING CONFLICTS.
PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:53:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:

10:53:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:53:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:53:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:53:52AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:53:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
10:53:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
10:53:56AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
MAY 18, 2023 AT 9:30 A.M.
10:54:03AM >>> FEEL NUMBER DE 1-23-88-C HAS ASKED FOR AT THAT
CONTINUANCE UNTIL MAY 18 MAY I HAVE A MOTION.
10:54:13AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
I AM SORRY, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
MAY 18 AT, I BELIEVE, 10:30?
10:54:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED FOR MAY 19 AT 10:30 A.M.
10:54:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
10:54:33AM >>> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 14.
FILE NUMBER E 2023-8, CHAPTER 2.
10:54:40AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
I THOUGHT MISS ANDREA ZELMAN WOULD BE HERE TO PRESENT THIS.
BUT THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO MAKE ALL THE PRONOUNS IN THE
CHARTER GENDER NEUTRAL WHICH WAS PART OF WHAT WAS VOTED ON
SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THAT
MANY OF YOU SERVED ON WITH MISS ZELMAN AND ME.
THIS IS WHAT THIS ACCOMPLISHES.
10:55:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTION FROM COUNCIL?
I BELIEVE THAT ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE PEOPLE IN THIS
ROOM ALL ASKED FOR THAT TO BE CHANGED.
AND I AM SURPRISED IT HAS TAKEN THIS LONG.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
10:55:30AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:55:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA -- EXCUSE ME COUNCILMAN
CARLSON.
10:55:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FOR
MOVING THIS FORWARD FINALLY.
10:55:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES, THANK YOU.
10:55:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:55:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM
NUMBER 14, FILE NUMBER E 2023-8, CHAPTER 2.
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:56:00AM >>LUIS VIERA:
AND I, AGAIN, AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID THANK
EVERYBODY WHO WAS ON THE COMMITTEE -- THE CHARTER COMMISSION
INCLUDING THE FOLKS UP HERE.
MICHAEL STEVENS WHO I PUT ON THERE WAS A GREAT GUY.
ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, IMPLEMENT THAT
CHARTER CHANGE AND APPROVED BY THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS AS
AMENDMENT ONE IN IT THE MARCH 5, 2019 ELECTION BY REVISING
THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS TO REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO GENDER,
QUALIFICATIONS, LIMITATION, SECTION 2.03, ORGANIZATION,
SECTION 2.10, VETO, SECTION 2.13, RECORDING AND
AUTHENTIFICATION, SECTION 5.01A, DEPARTMENTS, LEGAL
DEPARTMENT, SECTION 7.02, BUDGET, SECTION 8.07, CONFLICTS,
SECTION 10.02, SUCCESSION.
SECTION 10.06 REEMPLOYMENT, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR
PARTS OF ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND
PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE MYTH S.
10:57:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECONDED BY
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:57:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:57:19AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
10:57:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YES.
10:57:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:57:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:57:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:57:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
10:57:24AM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY SECOND READING AND
ADOPTION HELD MAY 18, 2023 AT 9:0 A.M.
10:57:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
A QUICK COMMENT BECAUSE THE WORD "GENDER" IS THROWN AROUND A
LOT.
ANYBODY WATCHING WHO HAVEN'T FOLLOWED THIS.
THE CHARTER AS IT WAS WRITTEN IN 1995 ONLY SAID HE AND THREE
FEMALE MAYORS SINCE THEN.
WHEN YOU SAY "HE" IN THE CHARTER AND A FEMALE MAYOR, IT IS
AWKWARD.
MANY PLACES THEY JUST CHANGED IT FROM HE TO MAYOR.
SO IT WOULD BE MORE ACCURATE.
THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.
10:58:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:58:03AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
MOVE 15-29.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:58:16AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MOVE 30-37.
10:58:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:58:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 38-50.
10:58:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
10:58:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED I DID COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAVE FINANCE.
10:58:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
52-55.
10:58:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
THANK YOU.
MOTION PASSES.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUILDING AND ZONING.
10:58:56AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOVE 56-64.
10:58:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
10:59:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
THANK YOU.
CANCER MANISCALCO.
10:59:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE 65 AND 66.
10:59:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
A SECOND.
10:59:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
DO WE HAVE MISS DUNCAN AVAILABLE FOR STAFF REPORTS?
I KNOW SHE WAS GOING TO COME IN PLACE -- COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK.
10:59:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I SPEAK TO MISS DUNCAN ABOUT AN ISSUE SHE WAS
GOING TO BRING BEFORE US.
AND SHE DECIDED TO PAUSE ON US SO MAY NOT BE UP HERE.
10:59:43AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
I SAW A TEXT FROM MISS DUNCAN SHE WOULD NOT
BE HERE FOR ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
A MEMO ASKING FOR YOU TO HAVE A WORKSHOP REGARDING THE
PROPOSED CHANGES TO CHAPTER 27.
I WOULD PUT THAT MAYBE THIS WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO
MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THEM ON TO THE WORKSHOP.
FROM STEPHEN BENSON, ERIC COTTON, ABOUT NINE DIFFERENT TEXT
AMENDMENTS THAT THEY HAD PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON -- OVER.
AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT TO THE WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK
ANTICIPATE 27 TO YOUR AGENDA SO THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH
THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BACK TO YOU FOR JUNE FOR FORMAL
CONSIDERATION.
I HAVE A COPY OF THE MEMO.
11:00:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU WANT ME TO MAKE THIS MOTION NOW?
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO THE APRIL 27, 2023
WORKSHOP PLANNING COMMISSION'S REQUEST TO TRANSMIT THE
PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR THE 2023 LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
IT CAN BE IN THE AMENDMENT CYCLE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:01:02AM >> SECOND.
11:01:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAS THIS FOR LATER?
IT IS FINE?
ALL RIGHT.
11:01:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 69, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-81006.
11:01:27AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THE GRANT FUNDING AGREEMENT YOU APPROVED FOR CRA FOR A $14
MILLION CRA GRANT FOR REHABILITATION AND RENOVATIONS TO THE
TAMPA THEATRE.
SINCE THIS IS A CITY-OWNED AUDITORIUM, THE CITY NEEDS TO BE
PART OF THE AGREEMENT.
IDENTICAL WHAT YOU APPROVED PREVIOUSLY AS THE CRA.
I WILL LET YOU KNOW WE MAY BE COMING FORWARD IN MAY WITH A
SLIGHT AMENDMENT FROM SCOPE.
TAMPA THEATRE WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME PROJECTS TO THE SCOPE.
AND IT IS RELATIVELY MINOR CHANGE WE WILL BRING FORWARD IN
MAY.
BUT WILL GO AND SOLIDIFY THE GRANT AGREEMENT.
11:02:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:02:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ADD FOR THE THEATRE ON THE SITE.
11:02:17AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THE SECOND SCREENING ROOM PETITION WOULD
LIKE TO BUILD ON PARKLAND STREET.
11:02:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VERY GOOD.
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:02:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
NOW AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 70, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-81038.
THEY WENT TOGETHER?
OKAY THEN.
11:02:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION ITEM NUMBER 70.
11:02:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:02:52AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
THE FIRST INSTALLMENT APPROVING THE
MOVEMENT OF THE MONEY FOR THE FIRST INSTALLMENT OF THE
GRANT.
11:03:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSITION?
MOTION CARRIES.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:03:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MASSEY.
11:03:11AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
YES.
11:03:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I KNOW WE APPROVED IT IN THE CRA.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE CLEAR.
I ALWAYS LOOK TO SEE THAT WE GET SOMETHING FOR THE MONEY.
THEY IS IT SAY THEY WOULD RECOGNIZE THE CRA FOR GIVING
DOLLARS.
11:03:28AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
AN EXHIBIT TO THE GRANT FUNDING AGREEMENT
TO RECOGNIZE THE CRA FOR PROVIDING THE GRANT FUNDS AND YOU
ALL WILL BE RECOGNIZED AS A LEAD DONOR IN CONNECTION WITH
ANY PROJECTS IN CONNECTION WITH THE UPDATE AND
REHABILITATION OF THE THEATRE.
11:03:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, SIR.
11:03:48AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ANYBODY WATCHING FOR THE FIRST TIME.
CRA MONEY FROM THE DOWNTOWN CRA CAN ONLY BE SPENT IN
DOWNTOWN AND CRA MONEY AND SPENT ON SLUM AND BLIGHT.
LITERALLY NO SLUM AND BLIGHT.
THE CRA BOARD SITTING AS CITY COUNCIL, PUSH IT TO AMENITIES
THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE CULTURE AND HISTORY OF TAMPA THAT
EVERYBODY CAN PARTICIPATE AND ENJOY.
AND THIS WE ARE PROUD AS TAMPA CITIZENS THIS IS ONE OF THE
ICONS OF OUR CITY.
IT CAN NOT BE -- THIS MONEY COULD BE SPENT ON AFFORDABLE
HOUSING OR ROADS OR ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE IT IS IN THE
DOWNTOWN CRA.
ALSO I WANT TO ADD THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF GREAT
LEADERS IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
MY COLLEAGUES NANO MORE.
ONES I KNOW THAT ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN SAVING AND PRESERVING
IT.
JOHN BELL HERE A WHILE AGO.
LINDA SAUL-SENA, FORMER CITY COUNCILPERSON AND FORMER CHAIR.
HENRY GONZALEZ, WHO WORKED ON SAVING AND RENOVATING THIS.
AND WAY BACK LONG TIME AGO, CHARLIE BRITTON, A GREAT --
STILL AROUND AND GREAT VISIONARY OF TAMPA THEATRE MANY YEARS
AGO.
THANK YOU.
11:04:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
11:05:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 71.
11:05:06AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
BEFORE YOU HEAD TO 71, MISS DUNCAN DID SHOW
UP AND HAS A BRIEF UPDATE.
11:05:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MISS DUNCAN.
11:05:14AM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
MY APOLOGIES.
A NICE QUICK PACE THIS MORNING.
JEAN DUNCAN, INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.
I HAVE ONE ITEM TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ALONG WITH DENNIS
ROGERO.
A COUPLE OF MOTIONS MADE REGARDING A CIP UPDATE.
IF YOU RECALL IN JANUARY, WE PROVIDED A CIP UPDATE AND
AGREED TO COME IN ON A BIANNUAL BASIS TO INFORM ON KEY
PROJECTS.
AT THAT MOTION CURRENTLY FOR COMING BACK ON APRIL 27.
THERE IS ANOTHER MOTION TO COME BACK JUNE 22, BOTH FOR A CIP
UPDATE.
DENNIS AND I WERE TALKING OF THE MIDYEAR BUDGET REVIEW THAT
IS USUALLY IN THE TIME FRAME.
SO WE HAVE A CONTINUANCE THAT IS GOING IN.
BUT WE WANT TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION WE WOULD LIKE TO
TAKE THOSE TWO CIP UPDATES AND COMBINE THEM WITH THE MIDYEAR
BUDGET REVIEW ITEM ON THE MAY 25 WORKSHOP.
11:06:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO MOVED.
11:06:15AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND.
11:06:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAY I, JUST BECAUSE -- IT IS VERY RELEVANT.
UNDER NEW BUSINESS, I WAS GOING TO BRING TO COUNCIL THE FACT
THAT THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF THE -- THE CITIZENS
BUDGET AND FINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS PART OF ITS PROCESS
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ITS PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE.
AND I AM WONDERING WHETHER IT IS APPROPRIATE OR BETTER TO
PUT IT OFF INTO JUNE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE YOU WILL
HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THERE TO MAKE THE
PRESENTATION.
WE SPOKE -- I SPOKE WITH MIKE PERRY IN THE LAST MEETING
ABOUT THIS AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COORDINATE IT.
ULTIMATELY IF WANT TO HAVE THIS IN MAY, THAT WILL BE
COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
THAT WILL BE FINE.
BUT TO LET YOU KNOW I WILL BE AT THE REQUEST OF THE
COMMITTEE REQUESTING THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY MAKE A
PRESENTATION RELATIVE TO THIS SORT OF STUFF IN PREPARATION
OF THE PRESENTATION OF THE BUDGET AND THE 911CIP TO CITY
COUNCIL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT CHANGES YOUR DYNAMICS OR NOT.
11:07:21AM >> I APPRECIATE YOU SURFACING THAT.
KEEN ON JUNE 22.
11:07:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MOTION A JUNE 22 WORKSHOP.
11:07:32AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THEY THINK IS PERFECT TIMING.
EARLIER THAN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO GIVE COUNCIL TIME
TO RUMINATE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AS WE GEAR UP OF PROVIDING
THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
FROM A MAY 25 WORKSHOP PERSPECTIVE, THAT IS MORE KEY TOWARD
HOW WE ARE DOING IN THE CURRENT YEAR.
AGAIN, JEAN AND I THOUGHT THAT RATHER HAVING A CIP UPDATE
OFTEN THE FOREFRONT AND HAVING A CIP UPDATE RIGHT AFTER
THAT, TYPICALLY THEY ARE RELATED AND TOUCH ON THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM BUT WON'T GO INTO DETAIL.
TWO INTERRELATED ITEMS THAT PROVIDE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC A
NICE, BROAD, HOLISTIC VIEW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE CITY
AND TIMING IS WELL-PLACED FOR THE JUNE WORKSHOP AND HAVE THE
CITIZENS ADVISORY BOARD COME IN LOOKING AHEAD FOR FISCAL
YEAR '24.
THAT IS MY THINKING.
11:08:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:08:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WAS GOING IN THE APRIL 14 CITIZENS
BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THEY PASSED A PASSED A MOTION TO COME PRESENT ON JUNE 22.
THAT IS OUR WORKSHOP SESSION AT 9:00 IN THE MORNING.
THEY WANT TO DISCUSS IT WITH US.
I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AT THE END OF THE MEETING BUT
SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
I WILL SAVE IT TO THE END BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE
ALERTED THEY WANT TO COME IN ON JUNE 22.
11:09:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:09:08AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK IT IS PER EFFECT THEY HAVE A MONTH.
THEY CAN WATCH THE PRESENTATION IN MAY.
AND HAVE A MONTH TO THINK ABOUT IT.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ASK TO TRY TO PREVENT SOME OF
THE ISSUES WE HAD IN THE PAST.
I WOULD ASK MAYBE CFO, CHIEF OF STAFF, OTHERS, TO SIT DOWN
WITH THE COMMITTEE BEFORE THEY PRESENT TO US OR MEET WITH
THEM.
IF THEY HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS.
37 THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO THEY PRESENT AND THEY ARE ABLE TO
SAY THEY -- THEY OR YOU ARE ABLE TO SAY THE ADMINISTRATION
HAS ALREADY AGREED TO CERTAIN THINGS THAT WOULD SAVE A LOT
OF TIMES.
OTHERWISE, POTENTIALLY EYE LOT OF POLITICS THAT THE PUBLIC
DOESN'T WANT TO SEE.
IT WOULD BE TO GREAT IF A LOT OF IT WAS WORKED OUT IN
ADVANCE.
IF YOU ALL WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND IF SUGGEST WE
WORKED WITH THEM AND MODIFIED AND MADE IT BETTER.
TO SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
11:10:04AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
UNDERSTOOD.
WE ARE WORKING ON THIS.
11:10:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON ON MAY 5.
11:10:15AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
25th, SIR.
11:10:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
11:10:22AM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:23AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU.
11:10:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM 71, FILE NUMBER BZP 23-81027.
11:10:31AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
NICOLE TRAVIS, DEVELOPER OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
YOU SAW MISS KAYON HENDERSON IN THE AUDIENCE.
SHE WENT TO A PRESS CONFERENCE AT TAMPA HOPE AND ON HER WAY
BACK, SO YOU MAY SEE HER HOBBLING IN HERE IN A FEW MINUTES.
ITEM NUMBER 71 IS A SHIP AGREEMENT.
AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE PITTMAN
DESIGN GROUP PROVIDING A LOAN OF $3,156,500.
AND THIS IS -- SHIP FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT IS TEN TOWN HOMES BUILT ON THE PROPERTY.
ALL OF THE HOMES ARE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE 80% AMI AND BELOW.
AND 60% OF THOSE UNITS HAVE TO BE AT 50% BELOW AMI.
THE PITTMAN GROUP -- THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS A MINORITY
DEVELOPER.
TWO OF IT THE THREE DEVELOPERS ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE WITH
US.
WE ARE VERY EXCITED THE PROJECT.
$3.1 MILLION INCLUDE ASSISTANCE WITH ACQUISITION ACQUISITION
OF THE LAND AND 200,000 PER UNIT IN SUBSIDIZING THE UNITS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I PRAY THAT I CAN ANSWER THEM.
11:12:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU ANSWERED THE FIRST QUESTION AND THAT
WAS GOING TO BE WHO IS THE PITTMAN DESIGN GROUP.
YOU SAID MINORITY DEVELOPER.
11:12:13AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THAT'S CORRECT.
11:12:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A LOCAL FIRM.
11:12:18AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
GRADUATES OF TAMPA BAY TECH HIGH SCHOOL AND
CAME HOME.
I HAVE A LIST OF -- OR I HAVE A LIST IN MY E-MAIL OF
DIFFERENT PROJECTS THEY HAVE DONE IF YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM
THEM.
11:12:33AM >> WHAT PART OF TOWN WILL THEY BE BUILT ON.
11:12:39AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
ON COLUMBUS AND 22nd STREET.
11:12:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NORTHWEST CORNER.
11:12:44AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SORRY?
11:12:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NORTHWEST CORNER?
11:12:48AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
NORTHWEST CORNER.
11:12:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD BECAUSE HISTORICALLY.
I HAVE SEEN PHOTOS BACK IN THE DAY TO HELP FILL IT IN WHILE
ADDRESSING HOUSING CONCERNS.
I KNOW TEN HERE.
TEN THERE.
11:13:09AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
SMALL LOTS TO BUILD INFILL DEVELOPMENT IS
EXCITING TO HAVE TEN TOWN HOMES IN THAT CORRIDOR
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:13:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I WANT TO SAY THAT I LOVE THE DESIGN OF THESE.
IT REALLY FITS THE CHARACTER OF YBOR.
SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE DESIGN GROUP TO NOT ONLY
JUST PUTTING SOMETHING THERE BUT MAKING SURE IT FITS IN.
I LOVE THE WAY COUPLE TWO STORIES AND A THREE STORY.
A NICE BALANCE.
I THINK IT WILL MELD IN VERY WELL.
THRILLED TO SEE 80 AND BELOW AND 60 AND BELOW.
11:13:53AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
50.
11:13:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WONDERFUL.
SMALLER BUT LARGER PARCELS.
WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HOUSE TEN FAMILIES INSTEAD OF
THREE.
I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FABULOUS, AND I WANT TO SAY THANK
YOU, AND I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE WATCHING IT QUICKLY TO REPLICATE IT
THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
11:14:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:14:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
TAMPA TECH ALUMNI, BUT THE -- I DON'T WANT
TO SAY THE CONCERN, BUT I WOULD SAY THE GROWTH IN THE TRAIN
MOVING.
LOOKING AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER AND YOU LOOK AT THE NORTH,
THE SOUTHWEST CORNER AND SOUTHEAST CORNER.
WE HAVE PROBLEMS THERE SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CRA
IS KIND OF INVOLVED IN THIS PROJECT PER SE OF THAT AREA AND
MAP IT OUT.
A TIME WHEN WE WILL IF IN THERE AND START AGGRESSIVELY BEING
THE CRA TO CLEAN UP SOME OF THAT AROUND AND PROVIDE FUNDS.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO PUT TEN BRAND-NEW TOWNHOUSES.
WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN.
YOU KNOW.
11:15:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I GOT IT.
11:15:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU KNOW WHERE I AM GOING.
11:15:25AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YOU DON'T WANT TO INVEST $3.1 MILLION IN
THIS CONNOR AND THE REST OF THE CORNER CONTINUES TO SEE
DISINVESTMENT AND NOT A SIGNIFICANT INFLUX OF PUBLIC
INVESTMENT.
I HEAR YOU 100 PERCENT AND WHAT WE DO AS CRA.
TIME GOING TO ASK FOR THE LATITUDE TO DO THAT WEARING MY CRA
HAT.
YOU WILL SEE US RAMP UP STRATEGICALLY TO PROTECT THE
INVESTMENT WE ARE MAKING.
A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THIS CORNER AND WE ARE CONTINUE
TO WITH THE CRA.
11:16:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
11:16:07AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:16:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MR. GUDES SAY ONE TIME VERY VIBRANT AND A
DRUG STORE AND A LITTLE SHOP AND A GARAGE ACROSS THE STREET.
THE WEST SIDE.
THE TWO EMPTIES ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH, AS I RECALL.
THE PROBLEM IS AS YOU SAID IT, MR. GUDES, NOT GOING TO BE
COMPATIBILITY WHEN YOU BUILD THESE NICE HOUSES TO LOOK TO
THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
AND I AM BEING GENERAL WHEN I SAY NOT SO NICE.
INCUMBENT UPON YOURSELVES I DO KNOW MIRACLE THAT YOU CAN DO.
YOU ARE NOT COUNT CANNING ON MIRACLES BUT THANK YOU FOR WHAT
YOU DO.
11:16:49AM >> MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:16:52AM >> SECOND.
11:16:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:16:56AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU TALKED ACQUIRING THE LAND.
JUST GOING TO THE DEVELOPERS OR GOING TO THE LAND TRUST?
WE DON'T HAVE IT SET UP WHY YET.
11:17:03AM >> THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST WILL BE ESTABLISHED BY THE FALL
OF THIS YEAR.
11:17:15AM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO THE POINT THEY WERE MAKING, A PERFECT
OPPORTUNITY FOR LAND TRUST.
11:17:20AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WHY HE IS.
11:17:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:17:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THEY ARE HERE?
11:17:32AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WHY HE IS.
11:17:33AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
YOU WANT THEM TO COME UP?
11:17:38AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A MAJOR PROJECT.
11:17:40AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
WE HAVE YOUR HOUSING MANAGER WITH HER BOOT
ON HOBBLING IN.
11:17:47AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
A BOOT ON?
11:17:49AM >>NICOLE TRAVIS:
THANK YOU.
THIS IS ALL THREE OF THEM, OF THE TEAM.
11:17:53AM >> A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY AND -- THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE
BEEN PRAYING FOR FOR A LONG TIME.
THIS COUNCIL.
GIVE OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING.
11:18:10AM >> I WILL START.
DONTAVIOUS PITTMAN.
BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA.
A GRADUATE OF TAMPA BAY TECH.
I GRADUATED FROM FLORIDA A&M, FAMU WITH A BACHELOR OF
ARCHITECTURE.
11:18:23AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST YOU.
11:18:26AM >> A GRADUATE DEGREE OF ARCHITECTURE.
MY EXPERIENCE IS IN COMMERCIAL ARCHITECTURE.
THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ALL THE WAY TO T.D. BANK.
WORKED WITH A LOT OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES.
AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS MY PASSION BROUGHT ME BACK TO TAMPA
ONCE I SAW THE GROWTH.
WHEN I LEFT, IT WAS A LITTLE SLOWER, BUT WHEN I CAME BACK, I
NOTICED THAT A LOT OF CHANGES GOING ON AND WANTED TO BE A
PART OF IT.
SO RECENTLY, WE HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY DOING DEVELOPMENT IN THE
AREA.
WE HAVE BEEN DOING A COUPLE OF MULTIFAMILY PROJECTS.
THEY LOOK SIMILAR TO THIS PROJECT HERE.
OUR PASSION IS TO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THAT AREA
SINCE WE GREW UP IN EAST TAMPA AND SOUTH OF EAST TAMPA.
WE WANT TO KEEP SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THERE.
SO THAT IS KIND OF WHAT IS STRIVING US AT THIS POINT.
11:19:19AM >> WE RAN -- WENT TO TAMPA BAY TECH TOGETHER.
GRADUATED AND ATTENDED FAMU.
AND STUDIED ARCHITECTURE, ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION
MANAGEMENT.
AT THE AGE OF 25, I WAS ABLE TO ACQUIRE MULTIPLE PROPERTIES
IN BROWARD COUNTY.
AND JUST NOTICING WHAT WAS GOING ON AND THE DEVELOPMENT IN
EAST TAMPA AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WE JUST DECIDED TO SHIFT AND
COME TOGETHER AND PUT ALL OUR HEADS TOGETHER AND DO
SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE MASSIVE THAN WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO
DO INDIVIDUALLY.
SO THAT IS BASICALLY -- BASICALLY IT.
11:20:02AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE ARE APPRECIATIVE.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR.
TRYING TO GET EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO EAT.
BECAUSE I AM ALWAYS HUNGRY MAKING SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS AN
OPPORTUNITY.
NOT THE BIG, BIG, GUYS.
SOMETIMES THEY DON'T LET LITTLE GUYS EAT.
THE INFILL.
WE PREACHED ABOUT THAT AND STARTING TO GROW AND WE ARE
STARTING TO GET THE PICTURE TO LET EVERYBODY HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE EVERYBODY -- WE CAN DO 100 UNITS, BUT
THEY CAN DO 10.
THIS IS A GOOD START.
HOPEFULLY WITH THE NEW COUNCIL IT CONTINUES.
WE WON'T REGRESS AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD AND I AM GLAD --
TWO BROTHERS WHO LIVED THERE WHO UNDERSTAND IS IT AND ALWAYS
SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU LIVED SOMEWHERE AND YOU HAVE THE
EXPERIENCE, YOU UNDERSTAND THEM.
AND YOUR PASSION IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY BUT IT IS ABOUT THE
PEOPLE.
CONGRATULATIONS.
I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS MONEY.
11:20:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
GENTLEMEN, NO OFFENSE TO YOU BEEN A LOVELY
LADY BEHIND YOU.
I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT HER ROLE IN ALL THIS WAS.
11:21:05AM >>KAYON HENDERSON:
GOOD MORNING, KAYON HENDERSON, HOUSING
AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
WE MET -- ACTUALLY A THIRD PERSON WHO IS MISSING PART OF THE
GROUP.
AND I THINK WE MET THEM.
THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THEIR OWN
THROUGH SOME DEVELOPMENT INTERESTS, EXPLAINING WHAT WE DO.
FOR DEVELOPERS WHO OTHERWISE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO BUSINESS
WITH THE CITY.
WE HAD AN OPEN RFP TO ALLOW DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS TO APPLY
AND ABLE TO LOOK AND GO THROUGH THE PROJECT AND PROPOSALS
INSTEAD OF HAVING IT TO BE MORE OF AN EXCLUSIVE PROJECT
AND RFP.
MORE EXCLUSIVE WORKING TO WORK WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE
TRYING TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
11:21:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:21:55AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY TO BELABOR THE POINT AND COUNCILMAN
GUDES HAS BEEN A BIG LEADER ON THIS THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
I WANT TO THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR STEPPING UP.
EXCITING YOU ARE DOING THE SMALL INFILL, THE DESIGN, THE
SENSITIVITY OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR MINORITY AND BLACK -- ESPECIALLY
BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES AND IT IS GREAT THAT YOU ARE FROM THE
COMMUNITY, SO YOU UNDERSTAND IT.
THANK YOU.
TIPS OR IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE TO HELP US TO DO THIS BETTER AND
PARTNERING FOR OTHER BUSINESSES.
THANK YOU TO KAYON AND NICOLE AND THE STAFF FOR TAKING THE
INITIATIVE ON THIS TOO.
SOUNDS GREAT.
GREAT JOB, EVERYBODY.
11:22:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:22:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
11:22:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OBJECTION?
THE MOTION PASSES.
11:22:47AM >> THANK YOU.
[APPLAUSE]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 72, FILE NUMBER CM 21-71670.
11:22:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY.
11:23:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
11:23:04AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SORRY, I AM FINDING THE REPORT HERE.
AND I DIDN'T REQUEST ANYBODY TO BE HERE FOR THIS.
THE REPORT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
IT SAYS HERE THAT THE -- THAT THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS
PARTNERED WITH A CRISIS CENTER AGREED TO APPLY FOR FUNDING
THROUGH THE SOCIAL AND ARTS FUNDS TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY
MONITOR ASSISTANCE FOR CRIME VICTIMS.
WHAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO AND WITH THE WONDERFUL HELP OF
CITY COUNCIL AND THE ADMINISTRATION TO SEE THAT THE CITY CAN
FUND SOME SORT OF A PROGRAM THAT HELPS FILL THE GAP, I GUESS
IF YOU WILL, FROM VICTIMS OF CRIME HERE IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT -- COMING FORWARD AND I ALWAYS
LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEP MY EYE ON THINGS AND I DO THAT
BY HAVING IT COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, IF I MAY, THIS ISSUE OF
VICTIMS OF CRIME ASSISTANCE FUND TO COME BACK US TO IN JUNE,
FIRST WEEK -- LET'S DO -- SECOND WEEK IN JULY, THAT IS
AVAILABLE -- THERE YOU GO, JULY 13 FOR CITY COUNCIL TO LOOK
AT WORKING THROUGH THE -- THROUGH THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WERE
NOTED IN THIS MEMO AND ASSISTING ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS NOT
SOLELY THIS BUT RISE UP FOR PEACE AND OTHER VICTIMS' RIGHTS
ORGANIZATIONS.
11:24:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
11:24:43AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
11:24:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 73 HAS BEEN CONTINUED TO
OCTOBER 5.
AGENDA ITEM 74, FILE NUMBER CM 22-77567.
11:24:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY.
11:25:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
YES.
11:25:01AM >>LUIS VIERA:
ME AGAIN.
UP SAW THE MEMO AND SPOKE WITH CHIEF OF STAFF JOHN BENNETT.
IT SEEMS TO BE GOING FORWARD.
WE HAVE THE FUNDS IN THE BUDGET AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT
GOES FORWARD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE A SIX-FIGURE FUND OF $1,000
OF PAID INTERNSHIPS $15 FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES WITHIN
THE CITY OF TAMPA.
TALK ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER AND
PEPIN.
MY BROTHER IS A CLIENT AT THE EAST HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
FACILITY.
THEY DO WONDERFUL WORK.
AND BUT WHAT I WOULD WANT TO SEE OF THIS IS TO HAVE SPECIFIC
DEPARTMENTS TO HAVE PAID INTERNS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
BE FUNDED AS SIX FIGURES.
THIS IS GREAT AND LOOKS LIKE IT IS GOING FORWARD.
SO, AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO, IF I MAY HAVE THIS COME FORWARD.
LET'S SAY THE FIRST WEEK IN JUNE.
FOR STATUS UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AT.
11:26:03AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND.
11:26:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
11:26:15AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. VIERA.
11:26:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
11:26:19AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I HEARD YOU SAY POSSIBLY PUT THIS IN THE
BUDGET.
IS THAT WILL AS FAR AS THE POLICE BUDGET OR THE GENERAL FUND
BUDGET, DO YOU KNOW?
11:26:27AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU ARE ASKING OF THE VICTIMS OF CRIME ISSUE?
11:26:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
RIGHT.
11:26:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO, THAT WAS -- MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WITH AS
RECEIVED AND SECURED THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WE PASSED IN
SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR.
WHERE IT CAME FROM, I DON'T KNOW.
SO, YEAH, IT IS APPLIES TO THAT, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
I AM NOT SURE WHAT BUCKET IT COMES FROM SO TO SPEAK.
I AM NOT SURE TO BE HONEST.
11:26:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 75, CM 22-79132.
MR. BHIDE.
11:26:59AM >>VIK BHIDE:
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, COUNCIL.
VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS A FOLLOW-UP IN THE ORIGINAL MOTION MADE BY
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO REGARDING TRAFFIC AND ROAD
CLOSURES RELATIVE TO SPECIAL EVENTS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA,
PARTICULARLY SOUTH DOWNTOWN.
A MEMO HAS BEEN UPDATED RELATIVE TO THE PREVIOUS MEMO THAT
WAS SUBMITTED.
AND OUTLINES SOME CONSIDERATIONS AND ACTIONS THAT WILL BE
IMPLEMENTED BY LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER, JUST IN TIME FOR
THE NEXT SPECIAL EVENT SEASON.
OF COURSE WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS ALL YEAR ROUND.
WE HAVE BEEN COORDINATING WITH SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS AND
BUILDING THE ARENA.
SVB AND OTHER TPD CERTAINLY.
AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED REACTIONS OF WHICH THAT ARE IMMEDIATE
BY LATE SPRING.
AND ONE IS ONGOING.
SO IS THE TWO THAT WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS AFTER LISTENING
TO COUNCIL, THE CONCERNS, HAVING COORDINATED WITH THE
COMMUNITY AS WELL IN RECENT MONTHS.
ONE IS TO LOOK AT RIDE SHARE AND FIND MORE AND CONVENIENT
LOCATIONS FOR RIDE SHARE, PICK-UP AND DROP-OFF ON THE EAST
SIDE OF DOWNTOWN.
CURRENTLY MOST HAPPENED IN THE WEST SIDE OFF OF FLAT BRIDGE
ON ASHLEY DRIVE.
THE OTHER ACTION IS THE -- TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR TRAFFIC
CONTROL PLAN.
AND THIS INCLUDES GOING BARRICADES.
AND WE WILL ELIMINATE A LOT OF THAT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
MORGAN STREET DURING ARENA EVENTS AND MODIFIED TIMING SIGNAL
TRAVEL PLANS THAT ARE AVAILABLE AS WE SPEAK AND WE FOCUS ON
ENSURING THAT ANY INBOUND OR OUTBOUND PATTERNS, PARTICULARLY
INBOUND, DO NOT IMPEDE TRAFFIC FLOW AND EMPLOYEES AND
RESIDENTS OF DOWNTOWN AS THEY ARE HEADED OUT AT THE END OF
THE DAY.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:29:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:29:28AM >>BILL CARLSON:
VIK, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AND HANGING
AROUND TO DISCUSS THIS A LITTLE BIT.
EVEN THOUGH THE PRESENTATION WASN'T VERY LONG, I AM SURE IT
WAS GREAT NEWS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE AND AROUND DOWNTOWN OR
PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH DOWNTOWN.
I THINK THAT THE DOWNTOWN PLAN -- TRAFFIC PLAN HADN'T BEEN
UPDATED IN 10 FOR 20 YEARS.
SINCE THEN, DOWNTOWN HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
ESPECIALLY IN AND AROUND THE AREA THAT SVP HAVE DEVELOPED.
THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE MOVING THROUGH THERE CONSTANTLY AND
MULTIPLE EVENTS.
LAST WEEKEND, THERE WERE FIVE EVENTS AT THE SAME TIME SO
THERE ARE CONCERN.
WE AS WE ARE LEAVING CITY COUNCIL AT NIGHT WITH AN EVENT, WE
CAN'T LEAVE CITY HALL PAUSE ALL THE ROADS ARE SHUT DOWN AND
BARRIERS ARE UP.
SO REMOVING BARRIERS, CHANGING THE TIMING WILL ALL HELP IT.
WE CAN'T.
WE HAVE A MORE MODERN DOWNTOWN.
WE CAN'T SHUT IT DOWN BECAUSE OF ONE OR TWO EVENTS.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I WILL ASK AND I SAID THIS IN AN
E-MAIL.
PLEASE TALK TO THE HARBOUR ISLAND FOLKS.
THEY ARE VERY FRUSTRATED THEY CAN'T GET ON AND OFF.
LAST WEEKEND, BECAUSE OF THE SHORTAGE -- OVERALL SHORTAGE OF
POLICE OFFICERS, THEY COULDN'T -- THEY TRIED TO HIRE
ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS TO HELP WITH THE TRAFFIC FLOW AS
REFLECTS HARBOUR ISLAND AND THE POLICE WERE NOT ABLE TO HELP
AND NICOLE AND OTHERS IN THE CITY HELPED DURING THAT
SITUATION, BUT WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP THE
TRAFFIC FLOW ON AND OFF.
ONLY TWO NARROW WAYS TO GET ON AND OFF AND ALL OF THIS
AROUND EFFECTS IT.
AS IT CONTINUES TO GROW, IT WILL GET WORSE.
ANY HELP WILL BE GREAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS BACK -- SHOULD I BRING IT TOBACCO
IN AUGUST OR OCTOBER?
WHAT WOULD BE THE TIME YOU WILL BE ABLE TO REPORT ON THIS.
11:31:23AM >>VIK BHIDE:
AUGUST WILL WORK VERY WELL BECAUSE BY THEN, WE
WILL BE PREPARED.
REALLY TO ADDRESS THE HARBOUR ISLAND CONCERN.
WHICH HAVE REACHED OUT TO SVP WHO IS CONDUCTING FURTHER
ANALYSIS AND STUDY AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO MOVE IN AND
COMMUNICATE WITH THE HARBOUR ISLAND COMMUNITY.
AS THE CITY, WE HAVE BEEN ENGAGE WITH HARBOUR ISLAND THIS
YEAR.
WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SHARED SOME RECOMMENDATIONS SPECIFIC TO THE FRANKLIN BRIDGE
AND THE INTERSECTION OF WATER AND FRANKLIN AND FURTHER
DOWNSTREAM.
IN ESSENCE, WE ARE LOOKING AT SIGNALIZING THOSE LOCATIONS OF
TRAFFIC ON TO AND OFF OF IT HARBOUR ISLAND ON FRANKLIN
BRIDGE.
AND WHAT IS SIMILAR TO GEORGIA AND TAMPA BY LIGHTS AT
INTERSECTIONS AND CROSSINGS.
11:32:19AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THIS BACK
FOR AUGUST 24 FOR AN UPDATE.
11:32:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND.
11:32:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
11:32:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, VIK.
11:32:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT YOU ARE, MR. BHIDE.
THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 76, FILE NUMBER CM 23-79914.
11:32:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, WHIT REMER, RESILIENCY OFFICER.
I WAS EXCITED TO WORK WITH YOU ON BEHALF OF SEVERAL
DEPARTMENTS AND WORKING WITH THE COUNTY.
WE SHOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION -- IF YOU GUYS CAN BRING THAT
UP.
11:33:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IT IS THERE NOW.
11:33:13AM >> I AM JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUE MONICA PETRELLA, FOOD SERVICE
COORDINATOR FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHO WILL PRESENT THE
MAJORITY OF THIS PRESENTATION AND I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH A
COUPLE OF ACTIONS SUBJECT TO THE CITY.
IF WE CAN GO.
AND THE NEXT SLIDE.
I APPRECIATE YOU CONTINUING THIS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AS WE
CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COUNTY.
THERE IS THE ORIGINAL MOTION.
THE PRESENTATION.
THE REST OF THE OUTLINE.
AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, MONICA, TAKE IT AWAY.
11:33:47AM >> THE FOOD COORDINATOR FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
I WORK FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EXTENSION.
TODAY, I WAS ASKED TO TALK ABOUT FOOD DESERTS IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA THE.
THE TERM "FOOD DESERT" IS NOT THE CORRECT TERM.
AS CONTROVERSIAL TERM.
TERM IS LOW INCOME LOW ACCESS, LILA.
FOOD DESERTS.
A QUICK PRESENTATION AND I AM IF HAPPY TO AT THAT YOU CAN TO
YOU MORE DIN DEPTH BUT TODAY THROUGH THE BROAD STROKES.
FOOD DESERT IS CONTROVERSIAL SOUNDS BARREN, EMPTY AND
LIFELESS.
THAT IS REALLY NO FAULT OF THOSE COMMUNITIES.
THE TERM "LILA" IS A TECHNICAL ONE AND MEASURED MAYBE NOT AS
BUZZER, I GUESS, BUT THE PREFERRED TERM.
YOU SEE LILA THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION AND MORE TECHNICAL
DOCUMENTS YOU WILL ALSO SEE THAT.
I CAN'T SEE -- THAT PORT HAS A WHOLE LOT OF MORE INFORMATION
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE.
SO ONE OF THE MOST USEFUL TOOLS WHEN TALKING OF LILA AND
FOOD IS THE FOOD ACCESS RESEARCH ATLAS.
THIS WAS MADE OUT OF THE 2008 FARM BILL.
HAS A MAP THAT SHOWS TRENDS FROM 2015 AND 2019.
AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW DIFFERENT TRENDS FOR THESE LILA
COMMUNITIES CHANGE OVER TIME.
IN THEORY, MORE DATA COMING AND UP TO CONGRESS TO FUND THESE
AND MAINTAIN THE DATA AND MAPS.
THE DAY AT THAT AT THE CENSUS TRACT LEVEL.
DOWNLOADED FOR COUNTY AND STATE LEVEL AND MOST OF THE DAY AT
THAT AT THAT CENSUS.
AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL CONTENT OF LILA IS CONCERNED, THE WAY
THEY MEASURE ACCESS TO A GROCERY STORE, THEY CALL "FOOD
STORES" AND IT IS A -- AN OUTLET THAT HAS $2 MILLION OF
ANNUAL SALES.
AUTOMATICALLY THAT IS PRETTY MUCH REDUCING SMALL MICRO
AUCTIONS.
A LOT OF TIMES THAT IS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REALLY HAVE A FULL
SERVICE GROCERY STORE WITHOUT REALLY GETTING TO THAT $2
MILLION IN SALES LINE.
THAT IS THE BEST PRACTICE IN THE TECHNOLOGY.
THAT UNDER $2 MILLION YOU MAY HAVE A SPECIALTY PRODUCT BUT
NOT A FULL-RANGE GROCERY STORE, THE LILA MAP DOES NOT
INCLUDE ANYTHING $2 MILLION.
AND MOSTLY FOCUSES ON SUPERMARKETS.
AND SUPER CENTER.
WALMART SUPER CENTER, SO SUPERMARKETS, COSTCO.
SUPERMARKETS, BIGGER WALMARTS AND GROCERY STORES IS WHAT WE
SEE IN PUBLIX.
AND LOW WELCOME AND ACCESS.
IN ORDER TO QUALIFY YOU HAVE TO BE BOTH.
LOW INCOME IS A POVERTY OF 20% OR GREATER IN THE CENSUS
TRACT.
THAT ENTIRE POPULATION IF OVER -- WELL, I GUESS THAT IS FOR
THE LOW ACCESS.
BUT THE LOW INCOME.
SO THE -- THE MEDIAN INCOME IS 20% OVER THE POVERTY RATE.
THAT IS WHAT IS DEEMED "LOW INCOME."
THE NEXT PART IS LOW ACCESS.
THAT MEANS THAT AT LEAST 500 PEOPLE.
DEPENDING IF YOU ARE TALKING OF URBAN OR RURAL CENSUS TRACT
OR 33% IS MORE THAN ONE MILE FOR A GROCERY STORE OR RURAL
AREAS ACTUALLY TEN MILES BECAUSE OF DIFFERENCE IN THE
COMMUNITIES AND HOW YOU GET AROUND.
THE MAP WILL HAVE DIFFERENT RANGES, LILA AT HALF A MILE.
REALLY, REALLY, URBAN AREAS.
CHICAGO, NEW YORK CITY.
IT IS -- IT IS -- IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO HAVE HALF A MILE
VERSUS MAYBE -- AND THIS MID-SIZED CITIES, HALF MILE.
IN ORDER TO BE DEEMED LILA, YOU HAVE TO HAVE BOTH
QUALIFICATIONS.
UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA A DECENT AMOUNT
OF CENSUS TRACTS DEEMED AT LILA.
DIGGING INTO THE DATA, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE
DISCREPANCIES.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU SAY I KNOW ON THE CORNER THERE IS A PLACE
TO GO BUY PRODUCE.
ONCE AGAIN UNDER THAT $2 MILLION IN SALES.
A FULL-RANGE GROCERY STORE OR A SPECIALTY PRODUCT OF JUST
MEAT, JUST DAIRY, JUST PRODUCE.
SO THIS MAP IS A VERY BRUTALLY UGLY MAP.
A MAP THAT I CREATED A LONG TIME AGO TO KIND OF START THE
CONVERSATION.
WE ARE WORKING ON OBVIOUSLY MAKING IT A LITTLE MORE
BEAUTIFUL, BUT ULTIMATELY ALL OF THE DARK WHY HE WILL LOW
CENSUS TRACTS.
THOSE ARE TECHNICALLY LILA AT A HALF MILE.
THIS IS NOT A MILE BUT THE LILA TRACTS ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL
THE HALF MILE OR THE MILE.
WHEN YOU SEE IT.
ALL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA QUALIFY AS LILA.
THE ANSWER, SADLY, YES.
MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THE CITY.
ONE IN FIVE RESIDENTS ARE FOOD INSECURE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE.
FOOD INSECURITY IS MORE THAN JUST ACCESS.
THIS IS KIND OF THE REAL PART.
IN TEN YEARS FROM NOW IF WE WANT TO SAY WE CONTRIBUTED
POSITIVELY TO FOOD SECURITY.
NOT JUST A MATTER OF PUTTING GROCERIES STORE.
BUT ALSO A MATTER OF BEING AFFORDABLE.
SOME IF YOU HAVE A WHOLE FOODS IN EAST TAMPA, THAT MAY NOT
BE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL OPTION.
IT HAS TO IT BE RELIABLE.
FARMER'S MARKET.
ONCE A WEEK.
NOT IN THE RAIN.
ONLY IN THE SUMMERTIME.
NOT NECESSARILY RELIABLE AND YOU CAN'T COUNT THAT IF YOU ARE
FAMILY PLANNING AND PLANNING WHY YOU ARE PRODUCE AND
GROCERIES.
CULTURALLY APPROPRIATE.
SOMETHING THAT FEED TAMPA BAY TALKED ABOUT RECENTLY.
A LOT OF TIME THAT THE FOOD THAT RESIDENTS ARE RECEIVING
THROUGH THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS DON'T FIT THEIR CULTURAL
NEEDS AND, THEREFORE, THEY DON'T GET CONSUMED.
SO ONCE AGAIN, IT IS NOT JUST A MATTER OF PHYSICAL ACCESS
JUST ALL OF THESE THINGS KIND OF COMBINED TOGETHER.
THE MAP THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER IN THE U.S.
THE LILA MAP DOES NOT REFLECT ALL THESE THINGS.
THE LILA MAP, IS THERE PHYSICALLY GROSS VIS FOR.
APPLICABLE SOLUTIONS.
EACH OF THESE THINGS HAVE A COMMUNITY EFFORT THAT CAN WORK
TOWARD ACCOMPLISHING BETTER AVAILABILITY.
BETTER AFFORDABILITY AND CULTURAL APPROPRIATE TOO.
LIKE I ST. PATRICK, I AM HAPPY TO TALK TO ALL OF YOU OF MORE
DEPTH.
AND THAT WOULD BE AN ENTIRE WORKSHOP AND TODAY WE WILL KIND
OF BREEZE THROUGH.
BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT -- OH -- OKAY.
THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF BEING THE FOOD SYSTEM COORDINATOR FOR
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
I WORK WITHIN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY EXTENSION KNOWN FOR PUBLIC
SERVICE, RESOURCE EDUCATION EDUCATION.
WELL KNOWN IT AGRICULTURE COMMUNITIES, LESS WELL KNOWN IN
URBAN AREAS.
AS THE COUNTY AND CITY CHANGES AND EXTENSION KIND OF
MODERNIZES, OUR SERVICES ARE RELATED MORE TO EDUCATION ON
EXPANDING WHY YOU ARE SNAP DOLLARS, HOW TO MAKE HEALTHY
MEALS.
HOW TO GROW YOUR OWN FOOD.
MY JOB IS TO STRING IT TOGETHER FOR A FOOD SYSTEM CALLED
HOME-GROWN HILLSBOROUGH.
I AM DULY GOING TO PUT THIS ON THE ELMO, I GUESS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT TAKES AWAY FROM THE PRESENTATION, BUT ST.
YOU.
11:41:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ON OUR ELMOS, ON OUR SCREENS.
11:41:21AM >> WHAT WE ARE STARTING TO DO.
STARTING TO DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND ASK PEOPLE TO SIGN
UP FOR A NEWS LETTER.
THE NEXT STEP TO ACTIVATE RESIDENTS, COMMUNITY GROUPS, TO
MAKE PLANS TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE OTHER LILA ASPECTS.
THE FOOD SYSTEM IS MORE THAN JUST PHYSICAL ACCESS IN URBAN
COMMUNITIES OR RURAL COMMUNITIES.
PRODUCTION, MARKETING, DISTRIBUTION, WASTE DISPOSAL.
ALL THOSE THINGS WILL BE HOUSED TOGETHER UNDER TH
HOME-GROWN HILLSBOROUGH INITIATIVE.
AS FAR AS IT RELATES TODAY, ONE OF THE BEST THINGS THAT YOU,
AS CITY COUNCIL, CAN DO IS DECIDE TO SUPPORT HOMEGROWN
HILLSBOROUGH BY ALLOCATING A STAFF MEMBER AND COMMITTING TO
BEING PART OF THIS COUNTYWIDE EFFORT.
AS WE KIND OF GIANTS OFF THE GROUNDS, HOPEFULLY LAUNCHING
NEXT MONTH, YOU WILL SEE MORE MEDIA.
MORE STRUCTURAL ORGANIZATION AND THE CITY PLAYS A HUGE ROLE
IN THAT.
OTHER OPTIONS.
ACCESS TO LAND IS WHAT PROMPTED THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION.
PARCELS IN THE URBAN AREA FOR COMMUNITY GARDEN IS ONE OF A
THOUSAND SOLUTIONS.
PART OF THE MOSAIC OF SOLUTIONS.
EXCITED TO SEE WHERE THE PARCELS.
AND PARCELS OF LAND ARE FOR COMMUNITY GARDEN ALSO NOT BE
SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT THE COMMUNITY ASPECT OF IT AND SOMETHING
THAT HOME-GROWN HILLSBOROUGH IS WORKING ON.
OTHER TOOLS LIKE FINANCING.
EARLIER TODAY WE LEARNED HOW THE CITY WAS HELPING TO FINANCE
THE TAMPA PREP.
THE CITY CAN DO SIMILAR THINGS FOR LARGER MILLION DOLLAR
BONDS TO ULTIMATELY START FUNDING THE BIG INFRASTRUCTURE
PROJECTS THAT WE WILL SEED.
HOMEGROWN HILLSBOROUGH IS THE NAME OF THE FOOD SYSTEM
PROGRAM AND HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL BE AN ACTIVE PARTNER.
WE HOPE ALL THIS GIVE SOME GUIDANCE TO SUPPORT THIS AND TO
SAY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF IT.
AS OF NOW WE HAVE OVER 400 STAKEHOLDERS THAT ARE SIGNED UP
TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY INTERVIEWS.
THEY WILL LAST THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
FOUR PART-TIME INTERNS GOING OUT AND STUDIES THE INTERVIEWS
WITH CHARGES, NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, TRADITIONAL FOOD SERVICE
PROPONENTS AND NEXT YEAR APPLICATION PLAN, COMMUNITY CENSUS,
PRIORITIZATION AND EVENTUALLY UTILIZATION.
THAT IS MY PRESENTATION.
I KNOW IT IS A BUNCH OF INFORMATION.
YOU GUYS CAN HAVE AS MUCH ACCESS AS OR AS LITTLE AS YOU
NEED.
11:43:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
BEFORE WE GO INTO QUESTIONS.
HOW WILL THE PUBLIC GET THE POWERPOINT.
I IMAGINE -- IS THIS NOT PUBLISHED -- WE CAN SEND IT OUT.
11:44:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION I AM ASKING.
HOW THIS ACCOUNT PUBLIC FIND IT FROM YOU?
11:44:10AM >> THE WHOLE PRESENTATION, I THINK THAT WITT PROBABLY HAS THE
WHOLE THING.
MY PORTION I CAN SEND TO WHOEVER NEEDS IT GET IT
DISSEMINATED.
THEY CAN E-MAIL ME.
THEY CAN CALL ME.
I CAN PUT IT ON A WEB SITE.
11:44:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
11:44:26AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
11:44:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT IS ON SIRE IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO THROUGH
IT.
GO TO CITY COUNCIL AGENDAS.
PART OF THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
CLICK ON IT.
AND THIS POWERPOINT WILL COME OUT WHICH IS WHAT I READ
BEFORE THIS.
SO HAPPY TO SEE YOU COMING TODAY.
I HAD NO IDEA THIS IS WHAT YOUR DAY JOB WAS.
I KNOW YOU FROM THE FARM.
FROM MEACHAM URBAN FARM WHICH IS A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE OF A
COMMUNITY FARM RIGHT IN URBAN -- THE URBAN OASIS THAT IS THE
CITY OF TAMPA.
THIS ACTUALLY IS INCREDIBLY SAW SOME TOO BECAUSE GOES BACK
TO ANY ACTUAL DAY JOB, WORKING ON FOOD SECURITY IN -- IN
COUNTRIES -- INTERNATIONALLY THAT ABSOLUTELY HAVE THIS TYPE
OF WORK.
I HAVE DONE EVERYTHING FROM SEED PRESERVATION TO HOW WE
STORE THE CROPS.
HOW WE TAKE THEM TO MARKET AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHAT YOU
WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE HOME-GROWN HILLSBOROUGH.
HOW FOLKS CAN ACTUALLY MAKE AND THEN SELL PRODUCTS.
THIS IS VERY EXCITING THAT WE ARE ALSO DOING THIS YEAR.
AND I WOULD LOVE -- I DO KNOW THAT COMMUNITY GARDENS ARE
WONDERFUL, BUT TAKE AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF WORK AND REALLY
NEED SOMEONE IN THAT COMMUNITY TO OWN IT.
11:45:50AM >> SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY OWN IT.
11:45:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU REALLY HAVE TO HAVE THIS DESIRE TO MAKE
THAT COMMUNITY GARDEN WORK.
SO I AM HAPPY TO HEAR THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE -- A WAY THAT WE
ARE PLANNING ON SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT, BUT ALSO,
HOW DO WE GET RELIABLE FOOD SOURCES LIKE YOU SAID, LIKE
ACTUAL GROCERY STORES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH
YOU MORE ON THAT.
11:46:18AM >> GREAT.
I WOULD LOVE THAT.
11:46:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:46:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BEAUTIFUL PRESENTATION.
11:46:23AM >> THANK YOU.
11:46:24AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BUT IN REALITY, HOW CAN WE PUT THAT INTO
PLAY?
11:46:27AM >> HOW CAN WE PUT IT INTO PLAY?
OKAY.
11:46:30AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
LOOKING AT WHAT YOU HAVE HERE.
COUNCILWOMAN MADE MENTION -- THE COMMUNITY GARDEN -- I LOVE
THE IDEA OF THE COMMUNITY GARDEN.
AND YOU ARE GOING TO GET A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE WHO WILL
GET INVOLVED IN THAT CONCEPT.
PEOPLE ARE FAST TO GO NOW ROAR FOR ME I BELIEVE THAT CHARITY
STARTS AT HOME.
AND GOVERNMENT HAS A RESPONSIBILITY.
AND WE KNOW WE HAVE A FOOD DESERT OR LOW-INCOME AREAS, THEN
WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT?
I AM A SOLUTION PERSON.
WHY DON'T WE HAVE OUR OWN GROCERY STORE?
WHY DON'T WE HAVE OUR OWN COUNTY GROCERY STORE AND CITY
GROCERY STORE.
11:47:12AM >> YEAH.
11:47:13AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT HAVE SOME PRICES THAT PEOPLE CAN
AFFORD -- I MEAN, TO ME, IT IS SIMPLE.
11:47:19AM >> I AM WITH YOU.
11:47:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU KIND OF WANT TO DO IT AND HAVE
LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE TO SAY THIS IS ANOTHER AVENUE.
GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO IT ALL, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE CERTAIN
ISSUES, GOVERNMENT HAS TO DO IT.
WE ARE A CAPITALIST SOCIETY.
I GET IT, BUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE THROW AWAY AND SPEND ON
THINGS, WE HAVE OUR OWN COUNTY STORE OR GOVERNMENT STORE
THAT PEOPLE COULD GO AND GET GOOD FRESH FRUIT FROM THESE
GARDENS, WHAT HAVE YOU.
NOW WE ARE CREATING JOBS.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I HOPE PEOPLE WILL WANT TO PUT ON
THE TABLE TO TALK ABOUT AND IMPLEMENT.
11:47:54AM >> YEAH, SO THE GOOD NEWS THAT THEY DO.
I HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION SINCE 2019.
MY JOB HAS JUST BEFORE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, KIND OF
UNDERSTANDING WHERE PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS KIND OF
STUFF, WHAT PEOPLE'S NEEDS ARE, AND SO, I KIND OF STAY
TUNED.
I KNOW IT IS NOT LIKE A RAZZLE DAZZLE ANSWER, BUT IDEALLY BY
THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR, WE WILL HAVE HUNDREDS OF
ORGANIZATIONS, RESIDENTS, ALL ENGAGED.
THE HOMEGROWN HILLSBOROUGH PROGRAM IS MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE
WHAT I WAS ABLE TO DO HERE.
AS FAR AS COUNTY-OWNED AND CITY-OWNED GROCERY STORES.
SEVERAL FLORIDA MUNICIPALITIES HAD TO OPEN THEIR OWN GROCERY
STORE TO PROVIDE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
IT CAN BE DONE.
FINANCING TOOLS THAT THE CITY CAN HELP LEVERAGE TO
ACCOMPLISH NOSE THINGS.
A LOT OF THESE COMMUNITIES ARE ALREADY ORGANIZING.
I AM SURE YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR AROUND THESE TOPICS.
I AM HONORED TO SAY I HAVE THAT, LIKE, A SPECIALTY THAT IS
-- MY EXPERTISE IS THIS, SO I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO
TALK ABOUT HOW TO BRING IT INTO REALITY.
11:48:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I AM GLAD YOU SAID THAT.
BECAUSE I KNOW I AIN'T CRAZY.
THERE IS A WAY TO GET IT DONE.
BUT YOU GOT TO WANT TO GET IT DONE.
11:49:07AM >> I WANT TO GET IT DONE.
11:49:08AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HELP
PEOPLE.
11:49:11AM >> THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GET IT DONE.
11:49:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I UNDERSTAND YOUNG LADY AND I RESPECT WHAT
YOU ARE SAYING.
WE AIN'T GOT IT DONE.
11:49:20AM >> HERE I AM.
11:49:21AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU ARE HERE AND ONE PERSON.
A DIFFERENT KIND OF BUREAUCRACY.
GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO TELL US ABOUT THIS, AGAIN, FOR ME.
IF IT COMES TO A COUNTY GROCERY STORE OR CITY-RUN GROCERY
STORE PEOPLE CAN FLOCK TO LIKE A WALMART.
I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT.
11:49:44AM >> I THINK MR. REMER'S PRESENTATION WILL TALK OF THE
ASPECTS.
11:49:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:49:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
IT IS EYE OPENING WHEN YOU CALL THEM LILA.
11:49:58AM >> LILA, LILA.
11:50:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ONE LITTLE QUADRANT IN SOUTH TAMPA.
SOUTH OF GANDY.
THIS IS JUST -- THE MAP BUT, YOU KNOW, PARTS OF -- LIKE
WHERE I LIVE.
I AM AT HILLSBOROUGH AND HABANA.
I CAN WALK TO PUBLIX.
I CAN WALK TO DOLLAR TREE.
IF I CAN WALK A LITTLE BIT MORE I CAN GET TO SAV-A-LOT.
IN BETWEEN FAST FOOD PLACES.
I HAVE ACCESS TO FRESH FOOD.
IF YOU GO TO HILLSBOROUGH.
AND YOU GO EAST OF THE INTERSTATE, THERE IS A WALMART AND
THE SAND WALL WHICH IS VERY POPULAR.
BEYOND THAT YOU ARE LIMITED.
MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. AND EAST, IT DRIES OUT.
A FRIEND OF MINE WAS HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO VISIT FROM
OUT OF TOWN AND WE WENT TO THE CITY LIMITS GOING EAST.
I SAID SEE HOW EVERYTHING CHANGES GOING EAST.
WINN-DIXIE IN NEBRASKA.
BUT BEYOND THAT MLK DRIES OUT.
SCHOOL BUS GOING EAST DRIES OUT.
ACCESS TO PLACES.
FOOD IS A BASIC NECESSITY.
PEOPLE NEED ACCESS TO NOT JUST FOOD.
YOU CAN EAT FAST FOOD, CONVENIENCE STORE FOOD, BUT YOU NEED
HEALTHY, GOOD FOOD.
THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO PROMOTE WITH THAT.
ALSO I MADE THIS MOTION REGARDING IDENTIFYING THE FOOD
DESERTS WHICH -- THE TERMINOLOGY IS DIFFERENT AS YOU
MENTIONED.
BUT THERE ARE SO MANY PLACES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHERE
THERE IS NO ACCESS.
I HOPE THAT MR. REMER, WHEN HE SPEAKS, WILL YOU BE
IDENTIFYING THE PLOTS OF LAND THAT WE OWN THAT COULD BE
ACTIVATED AS COMMUNITY GARDENS.
YOU MENTIONED MEACHAM.
A FRIEND OF MINE WAS THERE ALL THE TIME.
COMMUNITY GARDENS IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
I VISITED IN 2010.
YOU NEED THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT WILL BE THERE.
PEOPLE WANT ACCESS TO HEALTHY AND AFFORDABLE FOOD BECAUSE
THE COSTS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS WHEN PEOPLE GROW IT IN
THAT FORM INSTEAD OF GOING TO A GROCER.
PRICES ARE DIFFERENT.
WALMART, PRICES ARE, YOU GO TO WHOLE FOODS OR FRESH MARKET.
IT IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
IT IS WHAT IT IS.
HOWEVER, A BIG CITY, AND PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TAKE TWO
BUSES TO GET TO ANOTHER PART OF TOWN TO GET ACCESS TO, YOU
KNOW, BASIC NECESSITIES.
IT IS WRONG.
UP HOPE WITH MR. REMER, WHEN HE MAKES HIS PRESENTATION HE
SHOWS US IN THE CITY WHERE WE OWN VACANT PARCELS NOT BEING
UTILIZED THAT WE CAN -- AND ACCESS AND ACTIVATE TO BUILD
THESE COMMUNITY GARDENS.
THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL.
I SEE HOW THEY WORK AND WE NEED TO DO MORE OF THAT.
I WILL WAIT FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
11:52:52AM >> GREAT.
11:52:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:52:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I NOTICED A LOT OF THINGS AND ONE OF THE
THINGS OFF THIS IS RECYCLING.
AND JUST THE OTHER DAY -- I FORGET WHAT DAY IT WAS -- BUT I
WAS WATCHING SOME PARTS OF A TV SHOW ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
IT WAS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT WAS FAR AWAY FROM ME -- I DON'T
KNOW WHAT COUNTRY HE WAS IN.
WHAT THEY ARE DOING GETTING PLASTIC FROM THE OCEAN AND
EVERYWHERE AND RECYCLING THE PLASTIC INTO MAKING -- WHAT?
CEMENT BLOCKS.
CEMENT BLOCKS AND PUTTING -- SO MUCH PLASTIC IN IT.
THE CEMENT BLOCK IS LIGHTER, JUST AS STRONG AND INHIBITS THE
SUN FROM COMING IN.
BECAUSE A NATURAL -- SO GETTING THE SAME THINGS THAT WE ARE
THROWING AWAY AND, YOU ARE KNOW, WE ARE KILLING OURSELVES.
THE OCEAN IS FULL OF SO MUCH PLASTIC BUT SOON ENOUGH NO
FISH, NO NOTHING.
WE ARE SHOWING ALL OF THAT.
I DIDN'T HAVE SAY WATCHING THE HOPE SHOW, BUT IT WAS A
EYE-OPENER ON WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS
IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WAS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
DOING SOMETHING THAT WAS INVIGORATING BECAUSE I NOT THE
PLANT WE HAVE HERE REFERENCE TO ENERGY.
A LOT OF PLASTIC THAT GOES THERE THAT HAS TO BE DISPOSED OF.
ANOTHER AVENUE OF SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO GO IN BUSINESS AND
GET THAT PLASTIC JOIN UP WITH SOMEBODY MAKING CEMENT BLOCKS
AND DO THE SAME THING I SAW ON TELEVISION.
I AM NOT SAYING I AM GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE I AM NOT, BUT
SOMEONE ELSE CAN.
THINGS THAT YOU LEARN LIKE WHAT YOU ARE DOING YOURSELF AND
GIVING A BOOT UP TO MAKE SURE THINGS GET UP AND GET STARTED.
YOU ARE RIGHT, THIS WAS GOING ON BEFORE 2010.
SOUTH SEMINOLE MIGHT AND THROUGH THERE.
REMEMBER WAY BACK 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO IT STARTED.
BUT IT WAS STILL EMBRYO STAGES AND GOING A LITTLE BIT MORE
AND WILL CONTINUE TO GROW MORE.
YOU KNOW, IT IS NOT ONLY THE FOOD, IT IS ALSO EXERCISE.
AND PROBLEM IS THAT WE EAT TOO MUCH FOOD DECENT EXERCISE TOO
MUCH AND REASON IS A PROBLEM.
A HEALTH PROBLEM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT STATION I WAS WATCHING.
I WILL GO LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
AND SOMETHING INVIGORATING TO MY MIND BECAUSE WE THROW OUT
PLASTIC EVERYWHERE AND NOT USING BACK.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ENVIRONMENT .
THANK YOU FOR BEING AN EYE-OPENER AND A LIGHT IN THE SKY TO
SAY THIS IS IT WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO.
11:55:16AM >> THANK YOU, IT HAS BEEN A PLEASURE.
11:55:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:55:20AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVE A QUESTION AND POOR MR. MASSEY DIDN'T
KNOW THIS WAS COMING.
COUNCILMAN GUDES BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ON IF -- IF THERE
ARE CERTAIN AREAS IN TOWN WHERE THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS NOT
INVESTING IN GROCERIES AND GOVERNMENT COMING IN AND DOING,
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE A REVENUE
LOSS BUT SUCH A NEEDED THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND THIS -- IS THAT SOMETHING THE CRA IS HAVE ANY
INVOLVEMENT IN WHATSOEVER?
NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, SIR.
I KNOW HE HAS --
11:55:58AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE AND
THE PLAN.
NOTHING THAT WILL SUPPORT US OPENING A GROCERY STORE THAT
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE CAN POSSIBLY AMEND THE PLAN.
CRA BOARD HAS SUPPORTED COMMUNITY GARDENS IN MEACHAM, WEST
TAMPA THE CITY MADE PARCELS TO NOT-FOR-PROFITS AND RELIGIOUS
INSTITUTIONS FOR COMMUNITY GARDENS AND WE HAVE DONE THAT
SORT OF THING.
CRA IN EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN USED TO HELP A SIMPLE POLICY AND
HELP PROVIDE ECONOMIC INCENTIVES FOR A PRIVATE GROCERY
PROVIDER TO COME IN MORE THE AVENUE AND LEGALLY I WILL BE
MORE COMFORTABLE TRYING TO PROVIDE THAT KIND OF SUPPORT.
11:56:43AM >> I GOT IT.
SOMETHING THERE AND WHATNOT.
IF COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS TO MAKE A MOTION FROM THE CITY
LOOKING AT IT -- HE IS NOT HERE.
BUT -- I MEAN WASN'T THERE.
I WILL BE GLAD TO FOR THAT TO OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE I THINK THAT
IS A GREAT ENDEAVOR WHETHER CRA OR CITY.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY NECESSARY.
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
I WAS ASKING MR. MORRIS MASSEY ABOUT POTENTIALLY THE CRA
LOOKING AT YOUR IDEA OF A GROCERY STORE AND SEEING WHETHER
OR NOT IT WAS FEASIBLE.
IF YOU WANT TO DO A MOTION FOR CITY COUNCIL FROM THE CITY'S
PERSPECTIVE.
WE WOULD LOVE TO SUPPORT THAT.
THANK YOU.
APPRECIATE THAT.
11:57:27AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT SEVERAL TIMES WHEN I
WAS ON THE CRA BOARD AND THE CURRENT C RAs.
AND IT ALWAYS GETS SHIFTED SOME PLACE ELSE.
UP DON'T KNOW WHY.
GOVERNMENT ISN'T INVOLVED.
BUT YOU HAVE TO THINK OF HOW CAN YOU ACTUALLY PARTNER WITH A
NONPROFIT OR SOMEBODY ELSE TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THESE
THINGS.
AND, AGAIN, I WORKED ON THE COMMUNITY GARDENS AND THEY ARE
GOOD THINGS.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT THEY WILL NOT SOLVE THE ISSUE THAT
WE HAVE.
I WILL BE CANDID WITH YOU.
I AM A CANDID PERSON.
PUBLIX AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT PLACES.
I TOLD A LONG I'M AGO WHEN I COACHED BALL.
WHEN YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
PUBLIX BUILDS -- PEOPLE IN EAST TEXAS GO AND BUY PUBLIX
CAKES.
TAKE THEM TO THE SCHOOLS.
PUBLIX WON'T COME TO THOSE COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY SAY DO
THEY DON'T HAVE A HIGH EDUCATIONAL LEVEL AND DON'T HAVE A
DEGREE OR MATE TRICKS OR WHATEVER.
THROW IN FAMILY DOLLARS WITH ALL THE RAMEN NOODLES IN THE
COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING HOW DO WE FIND A PIECE OF
PROPERTY THAT MAYBE CITY OWNED OR COUNTY OWNED.
NOW YOU BUILD IT TO WHERE YOU CAN HAVE PRICES REASONABLE FOR
THOSE PEOPLE TO COME.
YOU HAVE YOUR COMMUNITY GARDEN TO SELL THOSE FRUITS THEY ARE
MAKING AND LIKE YOU DO AT THE MARKET.
GENERATING EMPLOYMENT.
GENERATING COMMUNITIES.
AND YOU ARE GIVING COMMUNITIES HEALTHY FOODS TO GIVE RID OF
DIABETES WHICH I KNEW ALL ABOUT.
HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE.
THESE KIND OF THINGS.
IF THERE IS A WAY, MR. VIERA, TO WHERE SOMEBODY WOULD LISTEN
AND SEE IF WE CAN GET SOME PROPERTY AND GET SOME NONPROFITS
TO ACTUALLY HAVE A MAJOR GROCERY STORE, MUNICIPAL GROCERY
STORE, COUNTY GROCERY STORE.
PEOPLE WILL COME IF YOU BUILD IT.
11:59:25AM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
GETTING BACK TO THE CRA.
TO PROVIDE PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CITY.
NOT OPERATE A STORE.
WHAT THE CRA CAN BE USED FOR IS TO HELP ASSEMBLE PROPERTY
AND WORK WITH A NOT-FOR-PROFIT TO PROVIDE A LOW-COST GROCERY
OR FOOD ALTERNATIVE LOCATION.
I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY CAN LOOK AT DOING THOSE SORTS OF
THINGS, BUT THE FOCUS OF THE CRA.
THE CRA IS NOT SET UP TO RUN THE GROCERY STORES OR SOCIAL
PROGRAMS.

11:59:57AM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. MASSEY, THERE'S A BIG GROCERY STORE
CHAIN OUT OF ATLANTA.
I TRIED TO CONTACT THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES TO SEE WOULD THEY
COME DOWN TO THE SOUTH FLORIDA AREA.
HERE IS A CHAIN OF STORES.
YOU JUST HAVE TO FIND THE RIGHT CHAIN THAT WILL COME AND
THEY PARTNER, AGAIN, MR. MCCRAE IN REFERENCE TO THE CRA
BOARD, AND SEE IF THEY CAN BRING THAT UP AGAIN.
I WILL BE GONE, BUT I WON'T BE OUT OF THE PICTURE, BUT TO
MAYBE BRING THAT UP TO SEE HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
AND MR. MORRIS MASSEY IS RIGHT, A GROCERY STORE.
12:00:33PM >> AND I DO WANT TO QUICKLY RESPOND AND KIND OF PUT IT OUT
THERE THAT NONPROFIT GROCERY STORES ARE NOT REALLY A THING,
BUT COMMUNITY ON CO-OPS ARE, AND COMMUNITY ON CO-OPS ARE A
WAY TO START GENERATING WEALTH IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS
MAINTAINING LOCAL CONTROL.
LOTS OF MUNICIPALITIES HAVE SUPPORTED CO-OPS, WHETHER THAT
IS THROUGH TECHNICAL SUPPORT, PROVIDING LAND, YOU KNOW,
HAVING A PLACE TO HOLD MEETINGS.

THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS MUNICIPALITIES CAN SUPPORT GROCERY
CO-OPS.
THEY TAKE A WHILE TO GET STARTED BUT ONCE THEY GET STARTED
THEIR ATTRITION RATE IS VERY, VERY WELL.
12:01:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
YOU KNOW, B&B WAS AN INDEPENDENT, 40TH AND
HILLSBOROUGH. WINN-DIXIE USED TO BE THERE BUT WINN-DIXIE
SOLD OUT AND WENT DOWN THE STREET MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
AND B&B WAS A THRIVING GROCERY STORE AT 40TH AND
HILLSBOROUGH, BUT MR. DAVIS GOT TIRED AND SOLD TO THE OTHER
FOLKS.
WE TALK ABOUT CULTURE, AND DIDN'T SELL THE TYPE OF FOOD OF
THAT GENERAL AREA, NOR UNDERSTOOD IT, AND FINALLY WENT --
CAUGHT FIRE, LET'S SAY THAT.
AND I DO THINK THE CULTURAL ASPECT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE
RIGHT FOODS, LIKE PUBLIX, LIKE WALMART HAVE IN THOSE STORES,
AND THEY WILL THRIVE, BECAUSE I USED TO GO ACROSS THE STREET
AS A KID AND BUY GROCERIES, YOU KNOW, AS I WAS GROWING UP.
SO YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE THE RIGHT CULTURE ASPECT.
12:02:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:02:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, DIFFERENT THINGS.
NUMBER ONE, THIS IS THE KIND OF TOPIC THAT WE NEED TO PUT ON
A WORKSHOP, BECAUSE WE CAN HAVE A LOT LONGER CONVERSATION
ABOUT IT.
I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PLANNING RETREAT FOR THE
CRA COMING UP, AND YOU MAY WANT TO ATTEND AND WATCH AND IN

PUBLIC COMMENT OR WHATEVER GET UP AND BE A CONTENT EXPERT.
BECAUSE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE OBVIOUSLY SHOULD LOOK AT
MORE.
I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE CRA OR THE CITY RUNNING GROCERY
STORES.
I HAVE BEEN IN GOVERNMENT-OWNED GROCERY STORIES IN A LOT OF
COUNTRIES LIKE CUBA, AND THEY DON'T RUN VERY WELL, AND
PEOPLE LEAVE COUNTRIES TO COME HERE TO GET AWAY FROM THAT.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE A CONCEPT THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN
PUSHING FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD
COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, AND PEOPLE AROUND EAST TAMPA WHERE
PEOPLE SHOULD GO BUT WE HAVE DONE A LITTLE BIT OF BETA TEST
IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND WEST TAMPA FOR DOING SOME PLANNING, BUT
WE NEED TO DO THIS ON A LARGER SCALE.
BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WORK THIS IN WITH PLANNING AND
STEVEN VINCENT SHOULD BE INVOLVED, AND WE NEED TO THINK
ABOUT WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT SHOULD BE,
WHAT SHOULD BE THE NODE AND KIND OF HOW WE SHOULD PLAN THAT
OUT.
AND THEN WE SHOULD WORK WITH THE CRA TO EITHER BUILD AN ACRE
BUILDING ON A CORNER, OR WE SHOULD WORK PARTNER WITH THE
PRIVATE SECTOR OR PROFIT SECTOR, BUT IMAGINE A BUILDING THAT
HAS A COUPLE SHOP FRONTS DOWNSTAIRS, MAYBE OFFICES ON THE
SECOND FLOOR, AND MAYBE EVEN AFFORDABLE HOUSING UPSTAIRS.
BUT THAT WOULD BE LIKE AN INVESTMENT TO START, INVESTMENTS

ON THE CORNERS IN THESE PLACES.
AND THEN JUST LIKE WITH A LOT OF CRAS INVESTING IN REAL
ESTATE, THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY OFFER SUBSIDIZED RENT TO
SOMEBODY JUST LIKE WE DO AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OTHER
THINGS.
I THINK WE SHOULD START AT LEAST FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
MAYBE LESS THE ALCOHOL PART, FRESH FOOD, BUT YOU REMEMBER
THE OLD GROCERY STORES A LONG TIME AGO WERE SMALLER AND THEY
ALL BECAME BIG.
I PERSONALLY WAS INVOLVED IN THE SOUTH ST. PETE PROJECT,
TANGERINE PLAZA, THAT KASH N' KARRY BECAME SWEETBAY, THEN
WALMART, AND THAT WAS JUST A DISASTER BECAUSE IT'S A BIG
THING YOU HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE ON A LARGE SCALE WHEREAS IF YOU
HAVE A SMALL SQUARE FOOT PROPERTY, SOME PLACES LIKE BOSTON
COMMUNITY CAPITAL WILL TAKE EQUITY IN EXCHANGE OR SOME
PERCENTAGE OF PROFIT IN EXCHANGE FOR LOWER RENT.
SO, ANYWAY, THE POINT IS THERE ARE A LOT OF IDEAS THERE THAT
WE CAN LOOK AT.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TO US.
THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY, I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED ABOUT
THE TURN FOOD DESERT.
I NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH BUT I CAN'T FIND WHY IT'S SO
OFFENSIVE THAT YOU CAN'T USE IT ANYMORE.
I'M A BRAND NEW PERSON.
I THINK IT'S A HUGE MISTAKE TO SWITCH TO LILA BECAUSE NOBODY

KNOWS WHAT IT IS.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE JUST -- PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF
IT UNDERSTAND IT BUT THE PUBLIC KIND OF UNDERSTANDS IT.
WE THROW OUT A NEW TERM, THE MONEY WE HAVE TO SPEND TO
EDUCATE PEOPLE, AND THE TERM IS GOING TO HURT THE EFFORT.
IT'S OKAY TO EDUCATE PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN'T USE IT ALL THE
TIME IF IT'S SO OFFENSIVE THAT NOBODY CAN USE IT, FINE, BUT
IF WE GET RID OF IT COMPLETELY IT'S GOING TO BE POSSIBLE TO
HAVE THE MONEY TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON WHAT IT IS BECAUSE
SO MANY YEARS HAVE BEEN SPENT EDUCATING PEOPLE IN THAT
CONCEPT.
AND I THINK IT WOULD SET BACK THE EFFORT A LOT, BECAUSE WE
DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PUT IT OUT THE WAY WE NEED.
THANK YOU.
12:06:18PM >>WHIT REMER:
I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO THE SECOND AND
THIRD PARTS OF THE MOTION, THE AVAILABILITY OF PARCELS.
IF WE CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION BACK UP.
SO I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT, IT MIGHT NOT BE IN THE CRA
PLANNING DOCUMENTS TO SUPPORT THESE TYPES OF EFFORTS, THERE
ARE AT LEAST TWO CITY PLANNING DOCUMENTS THAT MENTIONED
TALKING ABOUT NURTURING FOOD ACCESS, 2.2.6, A ROAD MAP, AND
FOR THE FIRST TIME, I'M SHOWING A COUPLE OF SNIPPETS FROM
THE FORTHCOMING TAMPA EQUITY AND ACTION PLAN, RELEASED IN A
COUPLE OF WEEKS, AND THERE'S A CHAPTER OWN FOOD AND FOOD
ACCESS RELATED TO CLIMATE.

I JUST WANT TO POINT THOSE OUT TO COUNCIL.
200 PARTICIPATION THAT HOME GROWN HILLSBOROUGH WORKS WITH.
IT'S WANT TO GIVE A SHOUTOUT TO A COUPLE OF ORGANIZATIONS
THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS WORKED WITH HISTORICALLY AND WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK WITH.
OF COURSE THERE ARE MANY, MANY MORE ESPECIALLY COMMUNITY
BASED ORGANIZATIONS, IN ADDITION TO THOSE THAT I AM SHOWING
HERE.
AND FINAL PART OF THE MOTION ASKED THE CITY TO RESEARCH
PARCELS, AND NOW THE MOTION I THINK WAS -- THAT WORK WITH
THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PROPERTY APPRAISER, WE WORK WITH THE
CITY OF TAMPA REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT ON THESE REMAINDER
PARCELS I DO HAVE AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET SNIPPET, THERE'S A
LIST OF ABOUT 20 THAT WE THINK ARE VERY GOOD CANDIDATES, AND
THEN A LIST OF ABOUT 40 THAT ARE POTENTIALLY CANDIDATES THAT
WILL NEED ADDITIONAL RESEARCH.
THIS IS KIND OF WHAT A COUPLE OF THOSE REMAINDER PARCELS
LOOK LIKE, AND THE CITY I THINK IS LOOKING AT LOCALITIES OF
OPTIONS FOR THESE REMAINDER PARCELS.
THESE ARE THE PARCELS THAT WE DEEM WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE,
FOR INSTANCE, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, THEIR SIZE
WAS KIND OF MAYBE MORE LENT MORE TO COMMUNITY GARDENING AND
THERE WEREN'T TREES THAT SHADED THE PROPERTY.
SO WE HAVE DONE KIND OF A PRELIMINARY CURSORY REVIEW OF
THESE PROPERTIES.

I WILL TELL YOU THAT TO REITERATE WHAT'S BEEN SAID HERE
TODAY, THESE PARCELS WILL NOT SOLVE FOOD ACCESS BY VIRTUE OF
COMMUNITY GARDENING.
MEACHUM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE ARE FARMERS THERE FROM
9 A.M. TO 5 P.M. EVERY SINGLE DAY, A FULL-TIME JOB.
WE WORK WITH THE COALITION OF COMMUNITY GARDENS AND OTHER
LOCAL COMMUNITY GARDENING GROUPS CURRENTLY WORK $300,000
GRANT COALITION OF COMMUNITY GARDENS.
WE JUST SUBMITTED A MILLION DOLLAR GRANT UNDER THEIR
ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE PROGRAM TO HELP WITH GARDENING ON 22ND
STREET.
COUNCILMAN GOODS, HEALTHY STEPS GARDEN.
AND THOSE ARE GOOD EFFORTS, BUT AGAIN I DON'T THINK THEY ARE
GOING TO SOLVE KIND OF THE LARGER ACCESS PROBLEM.
SO WE DO HAVE THE PARCELS AVAILABLE.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO RESEARCH THOSE AT THE DIRECTION OF
COUNCIL.
BUT YOU HAVE GOT TO HAVE COMMUNITY SUPPORT AND ENGAGEMENT
AROUND THIS.
OTHERWISE, YOU GET A COUPLE OF EXCITED PEOPLE, THEY GO TO
COMMUNITY GARDEN, THEY MOVE, THEY BECOME UNABLE TO SUPPORT
THE GARDEN, AND THEN IT BECOMES AN EYESORE FOR THE
COMMUNITY.
THIS HAPPENS AT SCHOOLS ALL THE TIME, YOU GET A COUPLE OF
PARENTS THAT ARE REALLY ACTIVE AND THEY MOVE UP TO MIDDLE

SCHOOL AND THEN THE COMMUNITY GARDEN AT THE SCHOOL KIND OF
GOES BAREN.
SO WE REALLY NEED AN ALL-HANDS APPROACH HERE.
AND THAT'S THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION.
12:09:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:09:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU DEEMED AS
THE POSSIBILITY, THE UPPER PART OF THE LIST, ARE IN THE
PARTS OF THE CITY THAT NEED IT THE MOST.
AND I KNOW IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE -- COMMUNITY GARDENS
GOING TO SOLVE THE ISSUE.
HOWEVER, THEY HAVE NOTHING OR CLOSE TO NOTHING OR CONSIDERED
WHETHER WE USE THE TERM OR NOT, IT IS A FOOD DESERT.
IF YOU AND I WENT OUT THERE RIGHT NOW THE OPTIONS ARE MORE
THAN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
SO THE COMMUNITY GARDENS REQUIRES A LOT OF COMMUNITY EFFORT.
IT'S A BIG I WON'T SAY ORGANIZATION.
12:10:30PM >>WHIT REMER:
OPERATION.
12:10:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OPERATION, RIGHT.
AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
OR THEY HAVE VERY LIMITED OPTIONS IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE
CITY BUT WE CAN CREATE THESE COMMUNITY GARDENS OR
ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE THAT
ARE IN THAT COMMUNITY.
THEY CAN BE PROUD OF WHAT THEY ARE GROWING.

THEY ARE HELPING AID THE SITUATION, MAY NOT SOLVE THE
PROCESS OR THE PROBLEM, HOWEVER, IT'S CREATING SOMETHING
THAT'S NOT THERE AND GIVING PEOPLE ACCESS BECAUSE IT SEEMS
LIKE YOU SHOWED PROPERTY ON SHADOWLAWN, YOU SHOWED -- THEY
ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
PEOPLE CAN WALK TO THESE PLACES.
THEY DON'T NEED A CAR.
THEY DON'T NEED TO TAKE A BUS.
THEY CAN WALK THERE AND GET WHAT THEY NEED THAT'S HEALTHY, A
HEALTHIER OPTION FROM WHATEVER ELSE THEY COULD BE EATING.
SO I THINK EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS.
YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
AND I THINK IF WE ARE GOING TO TRANSPORT TAMPA'S TOMORROW,
THAT INCLUDES ALL PARTS OF THE CITY.
AND WE SEE THAT WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM AS SHOWN ON THE LILA
MAP, OR THESE CORRIDORS ARE, AND I THINK WE HAVE TO START
SOMEWHERE.
AGAIN WE ARE NOT SOLVING EVER EVERYTHING BUT JUST LIKE THE
HOUSING CRISIS.
WE AREN'T GOING TO BE BUILDING 10,000 UNITS TOMORROW BUT
BUILD HERE, BUILD THERE.
IT ALL WORKS IN CONJUNCTION FOR OUR SUCCESS AS A WHOLE.
12:11:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:11:59PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE ONE THING THAT IS SCARCE IN TAMPA AND
IS GOING TO BE MORE AND MORE SCARCE OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS

IS LAND.
AND IF WE HAVE THE LAND IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO USE IT
TEMPORARILY.
BUT WHAT URBAN AREAS ARE GOING THROUGH IS VERTICAL GARDENS
LIKE PUTTING A GARDEN ON TOP OF A PARKING GARAGE OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND MAYBE IN YOUR RESEARCH YOU CAN FIND
WAYS TO SEE A PURPOSE IN COMMUNITY CENTERS ON THE TOP.
BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME IDEAS THAT YOU WOULD GIVE US AS THE
CRA BOARD, AND INCENTIVIZING INSTEAD OF $50,000 FACADE
GRANT, LIKE THE GUYS THAT WERE HERE EARLIER BUILDING A
TEN-UNIT BUILDING, THEN WE CAN SAY, WELL, IF YOU SET A
FACADE GRANT WE WILL GIVE YOU A $50,000 GRANT TO PUT A
COMMUNITY GARDEN ON THE ROOF OR SOMETHING.
IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE COME
BACK AND LET US KNOW.
12:13:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:13:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A COUPLE OF THINGS.
IF I WERE TO VENTURE A GUESS, I WOULD SAY FOR PERSONAL LAND
THAT'S BEEN UNDEVELOPED TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT A USEFUL
COMMUNITY GARDEN WOULD BE SOMEWHERE IN THE RANGE OF LIKE 5
TO $10,000, MAYBE EVEN MORE.
12:13:21PM >> I COULD SPEAK ON THAT.
SO $10 FOR STARTING AND THEN A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.
THE BIG ISSUE IS ACCESS TO WATER WHICH BUT YES, SHED, TOOLS,
SOIL, ALL OF THAT.

SO 10,000 IS ROUGHLY THE STARTING, AND IT HAS ANNUAL COSTS
AS WELL.
AND THEN OF COURSE THE BEST MODEL IS TO HAVE A PART-TIME
PAID PERSON WHO IS THERE, AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY EXPENSIVE AS
WELL.
12:13:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO, YEAH, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE EXPENSE
OF THAT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, I WATCHED PEOPLE UM GROW
FROM LITERALLY LIKE A LOT THAT HAD A SIGN THAT SAID URBAN
FARM COMING SOON, AND I WAS SO EXCITED ABOUT IT, THAT LILA,
I MADE MY POOR HUSBAND BIKE DOWN THERE EVERY THREE MONTHS OR
SEE JUST TO SEE WHERE IT WAS GOING.
THEN WHEN I ENDED UP TALKING TO THE FOLKS WHO RUN IT, ONE OF
THE THINGS THEY SAID WOULD BE MOST BENEFICIAL TO THEM IS
MORE SPACE TO GROW THINGS, THAT THEY CAN THEN SELL TO
PEOPLE.
SO JUST ALLOWING OTHER PEOPLE TO USE THAT LAND, AND THE
GREAT THING ABOUT MEACHUM THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IS
THEY ARE A PART OF THE EBT PROGRAM, AND BASICALLY EVERY
COMMUNITY, OR RATHER GARDEN CAN DO THIS, FARM, BUT THEY
BASICALLY TAKE YOUR EBT AND DOUBLE IT SO YOU ARE ABLE TO
AFFORD THAT NUTRITIOUS LOCALLY-GROWN FRUITS AND VEGETABLES.
SO I THINK THAT'S EVEN SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT IN
TERMS OF LIKE PARTNERING FOR SOME OF THIS LAND THAT MIGHT
NOT BE -- THE PROBLEM IS THEY NEED GOOD-SIZED USABLE LAND,
AND SO THAT'S THE TRICK.

IT'S HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHERE A GOOD PLACE TO PUT SOME OF
THIS WOULD BE, BUT I THINK FROM THIS DISCUSSION, IT SEEMS
THAT ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS WE COULD DO SITTING AS THE CRA
BOARD IS TO LOOK AT SOME LAND AND MAYBE OFFER SOME SERIOUS
INCENTIVES FOR ONE OF THE LOW-COST GROCERY STORES TO COME
IN.
YOU KNOW, WAY THINK OF, I THINK OF ALDI BECAUSE I REGULARLY
SHOP AT ALDI BUT I BASICALLY HAVE TO DRIVE OUT OF TIME TOWN
TO DO IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY PUT THEIR STORES BECAUSE
IT'S CHEAPER.
SO HOW DO WE TAKE SOME OF THOSE LOW-COST STORES, FIGURE OUT
HOW WE CAN GET THERE TO BE IN THOSE LOCATIONS, AS TO NOT
BUYING IT AND STARTING IT OURSELVES, BECAUSE I LIVED IN
ST. PETE WHEN THAT WAS AN ISSUE WITH TANGERINE PLAZA, BUT
WHAT CAN WE DO, WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM ST. PETE, WHAT CAN WE
LEARN FROM OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE DONE SO, AND ENCOURAGE,
MONETARILY ENCOURAGE THOSE STORES TO COME INTO THE AREAS,
AND WHERE WE NEED THEM.
12:16:21PM >>WHIT REMER:
I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
AND MEACHUM ACTUALLY WAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY
SCHOOL BOARDS, THAT'S COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD LAND, SO YOU COULD
SEE KIND OF A SIMILARITY BETWEEN THE CRA DOING SOMETHING
LIKE THAT AS THE COUNTY DID.
I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT LEASE RUNS.
BUT I KNOW THAT THE MODEL THAT MEACHUM APPROACH, OR THE WAY

THEY WERE ABLE TO SECURE THAT CONTRACT, WAS OFFERING EBT AND
WORKING WITH ENCORE NEXT DOOR AND OFFERING THEIR FOOD AT A
RATE THAT WAS AFFORDABLE TO THOSE RESIDENTS.
I DO WANT TO ALSO MENTION ONE OF THE ASKS THAT MONICA MADE
TODAY WAS THE COUNCIL SUPPORTING STAFF FOR THE HOME GROWN
HILLSBOROUGH PROGRAM AND IF I CAN TAKE A MOMENT AND
INTRODUCE YOU TO KAYLA CASELLI WHO IS THE NEW SUSTAINABILITY
COORDINATOR. SHE STARTED WITH THE CITY THREE WEEKS AGO, AND
HER PASSION IS FOOD AND SHE WILL BE WORKING WITH MY OFFICE
ON THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS.
SHE'S A GRADUATE OF UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND PATEL COLLEGE
OF SUSTAINABILITY AND IS JUST SUPER SMART ON THESE FOOD
ISSUES, AND ACTUALLY I WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH MONICA AS
NECESSARY.
12:17:33PM >> HELLO EVERYONE. THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
I'M EXCITED TO BE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT WITH FOOD SYSTEMS
AND ALL THINGS SUSTAINABILITY.
12:17:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WELCOME ABOARD.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:17:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO THEN YOU JUST MOVED HERE FROM
GAINESVILLE, OR IN THAT AREA, SO YOU WERE THERE.
SO WHEN I THINK OF FARMS AND URBAN AGRICULTURE, I OFTEN
THINK OF THE FARMERS MARKETS THAT GAINESVILLE HAS BEEN DOING
FOREVER, AND ITS OWN LOCAL GROCERY STORE, WORDS, WHICH
ACTUALLY BUYS FRUITS AND VEGETABLES FROM GARDENERS IN THE

AREA, AND SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT EARLIER, AND I WAS
THINKING, THAT REMINDS ME OF THAT STORE AND HOW WE COULD
POSSIBLY EVEN DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND ENCOURAGE THAT
HERE.
12:18:25PM >> YEAH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT EXAMPLES, IN THE
REST OF THE COUNTRY, SO I THINK WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT
THE WHEEL BUT LOOK AT WHAT'S WORKED REALLY WELL AND APPLY IT
HERE.
12:18:41PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I'M GLAD YOU SAID THAT.
WHEN WE GO TO MANATEE COUNTY, AND IF YOU GET OFF AT 276, I
BELIEVE, AND DRIVE DOWN, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE
STORE, INDEPENDENCE STORES LIKE A FARMERS MARKET, THAT'S A
GROCERY STORE, AS YOU GET INTO PALMETTO CITY LIMITS, I HAVE
BEEN THERE A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I HAVE SOME FRIENDS IN
THAT AREA OF TOWN, AND I HAVE BEEN IN THAT STORE.
SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THESE INDEPENDENTS OR YOU ARE TALKING
ABOUT -- THEY DO WORK, AND I'LL TELL YOU, THEY ARE PRETTY
MUCH LIKE YOUR MAJOR PUBLIX OR WHATEVER.
SO JUST AN IDEA WE START LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN FIND PROPERTY
AND TALKING TO OTHER PEOPLE TO SEE HOW NOT REINVENT THE
WHEEL BUT SEE HOW THEY ARE DOING.
12:19:26PM >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT.
WE TALKED ABOUT MEACHUMS A LOT TODAY.
MEACHUMS WAS A $1 MILLION PROJECT TO GET GOING.
SO AS WE TALK ABOUT HAVING MORE MEACHUMS, THAT'S KIND OF THE

STARTING POINT WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, GREENHOUSES,
EQUIPMENT, THEN ADDITIONALLY THEIR OPERATIONAL COSTS, THEIR
LABOR.
I'M PRETTY SURE THE FARMERS ARE NOT GETTING PAID A LIVABLE
WAGE.
I DON'T THINK THEY TAKE VACATIONS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF HEALTH CARE THEY HAVE.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CREATING JOBS FOR FARMING, WE NEED TO
TALK ABOUT, IS IT ON THE MORE DEMIC SIDE OR IS IT ON THE
MORE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABLE TRULY CAREER KIND OF DEAL.
SO ALL OF THIS CAN BE DISCUSSED.
MANY, MANY HOURS.
WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO IT.
BUT, YEAH, I HEARD MEACHUM A LOT TODAY.
IT'S A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE.
I HOPE WE HAVE DOZENS MORE MEACHUMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY,
STARTING PRICE TAG IS USUALLY AROUND A MILLION, THEN YOU
HAVE TO KEEP PAYING -- THEY HAVE FIVE STAFF MEMBERS THAT
WORK FULL TIME.
12:20:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:20:26PM >>BILL CARLSON:
ALONG THAT LINE, SORRY IF I MISSED THIS
EARLIER, BUT DOES THE COUNTY GIVE YOU A BUDGET?
12:20:33PM >> YES, I'M A STAFF MEMBER.
OH, MY PROGRAM.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO LEVERAGE SOME OF THE ARP FUNDS FROM BACK

IN THE PANDEMIC, AND SO THIS SUMMER WE'LL ALSO HOPING TO
ADVOCATE FOR MORE FUNDING FOR THE POSITION.
SO THE ORIGINAL FUNDING FROM THE ARP IS FUNDING THE INITIAL
HOME GROWN HILLSBOROUGH, LIKE IMPLEMENTATIONS, HIRING FOUR
PART-TIME INTERNS, AND THEIR ENTIRE JOB IS TO SET UP
MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS THAT WANT TO BE PART OF THE
SYSTEM WORK, AND THAT'S VERY, VERY LARGE AND VARIED AND
THAT'S ON PURPOSE.
AND SO THEY WILL BE DOING THAT STARTING IN JUNE AND THROUGH
THE REST OF THE YEAR.
SO IF ANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE INTERVIEWED, IF YOU HAVE
ANY BUSINESSES THAT YOU THINK WOULD FIT INTO THIS, IT
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A TRADITIONAL FOOD SYSTEM STAKEHOLDER, IT
COULD BE A LAW FIRM THAT WANTS TO EDUCATE THEIR EMPLOYEES OR
HELP FUND THE COMMUNITY GARDEN OR HELP PROVIDE LEGAL
SERVICES TO GET THROUGH THE LAND USE STEPS.
SO ANYBODY IN THE COUNTY CAN PLAY A ROLE IN THIS
DEVELOPMENT.
THIS NEXT YEAR WE ARE GOING TO START DOING THE INTERVIEWS,
AND THAT'S WHAT OUR INITIAL FUNDING IS SUPPORTING.
12:21:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HOW MUCH WAS IT AND HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO?
12:21:42PM >> WE HOPE TO GET $200,000 FOR TWO YEARS.
SO LIKE $400,000 FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT, BUT THAT IS OF

COURSE UP TO --
12:21:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DOES THE COUNTY HAVE OTHER BUCKETS THAT
THEY CAN USE TO HELP SUBSIDIZE FARMS?
12:22:01PM >> MAYBE.
IT'S JUST KIND OF MATTERS OF HOW THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO
APPROACH IT.
SO, YEAH, THERE'S LOTS OF TOOLS, THE COUNTY DOES HAVE A LOT
OF ASSETS THAT CAN BE LEVERAGED.
SO THERE'S A LOT TO BE DISCOVERED, YEAH.
THANK YOU.
12:22:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:22:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST WANT TO KNOW OF YOUR OFFICE,
INVESTMENT, WHAT YOU HAVE TO HIRE AND WHAT'S THE RETURN ON
THE PRODUCT THAT YOU WOULD BE GIVING TO THE PUBLIC?
12:22:38PM >> SO IT HASN'T BEEN DONE YET.
WE ARE JUST STARTING THIS PROCESS.
WE HAVE JUST FINISHED HIRING THESE INTERNS AND ACTUALLY
TRAINING STARTS NEXT WEEK.
12:22:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT WOULD BE THE KEY, WOULDN'T IT?
12:22:47PM >> YES.
AND I HAVE A MASTERS IN FOOD SYSTEMS, SO IT'S PART OF
ECONOMICS DEGREE, SO I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH MAKING SURE
EVERY DOLLAR THAT GOES IN HAS A DOLLAR ON THE OTHER SIDE,
HOPEFULLY SEVERAL.

12:22:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:23:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:23:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
SO WHAT I SENSE ON THIS COUNCIL IS OBVIOUSLY LIKE A
COMMITMENT THAT WOULD BE VERY ROBUST IN MAKING SOMETHING
LIKE THIS HAPPEN.
FOR ME, THIS IS THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BASIC IDEA THAT THERE'S THE PLACES WITHIN
THE CITY OF TAMPA, PLACES LIKE SULPHUR SPRINGS, EAST TAMPA
AND OTHERS, WHERE EVERYONE CALLS FOOD DESERTS, WHERE THERE'S
A LOT OF HUNGER, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND GOVERNMENT SHOULD
INTERVENE TO RIGHT THAT WRONG.
THERE ARE PARKS, FOR EXAMPLE, I LIVE IN NEW TAMPA.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PARKS THAT ARE PRIVATE PARKS, RIGHT?
OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY DON'T HAVE PARKS, PRIVATE PARKS, SO
GUESS WHAT, GOVERNMENT INTERVENES TO MAKE SURE THAT KIDS
HAVE A PLACE TO PLAY AND EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, YBOR CITY,
SULPHUR SPRINGS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, WE INTERVENE IN THAT
REGARD.
TAKE A LOOK AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT POLICIES WHERE GOVERNMENT
DOES THAT, AND WE SHOULD DO THAT HERE, THE VERY LEVEL OF
INVOLVEMENT.
AGAIN, THE COMMUNITY NOT HAVING A DIGNIFIED PLACE TO SHOP AT
FOR FOOD IS A SIGN OF DISRESPECT FOR THAT COMMUNITY, AND WE
SHOULD INTERVENE BY EVERY MEANS THAT WE HAVE, AND IF IT

COSTS A MILLION BUCKS, I'M ALL FOR THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, IF I
DIDN'T HAVE THAT IN MY COMMUNITY, I WOULD BE REALLY TICKED
OFF, AND I WOULD WANT IT.
AND WE SHOULD DO THAT.
SO AGAIN ANY MOTION THAT WOULD BE MADE, I KNOW COUNCILMAN
GUDES HAS DONE SO MUCH WORK ON THIS INCLUDING BACK WHEN HE
WAS IN THE CAC BEFORE COUNCIL, I WILL BE GLAD TO SUPPORT IT.
WE HAVE TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
IF IT COSTS A MILLION BUCKS, BRING IT ON BECAUSE IT'S THE
RIGHT THING TO DO.
12:24:36PM >> HOPEFULLY WE WILL HAVE MANY MORE CONVERSATIONS.
12:24:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
MR. REMER, I NEED TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY AND RECOGNIZE YOU
ON YOUR HELP WITH THE RESILIENCY SUMMIT COMING UP THE FIRST
WEEK OF MAY, WITH THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING
COMMISSION.
COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME.
YOU PUT FORTH A LOT OF EFFORT, AND I KNOW IT WAS TOUGH, BUT
I THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR HAVING TAMPA INVOLVED WITH
THAT RESILIENCY SUMMIT.
THANK YOU.
WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL 1:30.
RECESSED.
RECESSED UNTIL 1:30.

(TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IN RECESS)

(ROLL CALL)
1:33:44PM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:33:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 77.
FILE CM 22-77457.
1:34:04PM >>CARL BRODY:
I PROVIDED SPECIFICALLY AN UPDATE TO
DISCUSS -- AN UPDATE WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CEMETERIES --
COLLEGE HILL AND ROBLES CEMETERY.
IF YOU READ THE MEMO, YOU SEE THAT WE HAVE CONCERN WITH
DOING OF COURSE GPR PENETRATED RADAR ON THESE SITES BECAUSE
THEY ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE ALL THE PROTECTIONS
THAT PRIVATE PROPERTIES GET WHICH MEANS WE CANNOT FORCIBLY
OR REQUIRE THEM TO DO GPR.
BUT ADMINISTRATION DID NEGOTIATE WITH THE ITALIAN CLUB AND
THEY HAVE AGREED TO DO GPR AND DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY, SO
THE GPR HAS BEEN UNDERTAKEN, THEY AGREED TO PROVIDE US THE
RESULTS OF THAT REPORT AND WE CAN DETERMINE THE NEXT STEPS
ONCE WE DETERMINE WHAT THOSE RESULTS ARE.
I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE THAT THE CITY PARKS AND RECREATION
DEPARTMENT IS LOOKING AT THE ISSUE, AND THE PLAN IS TO
INCREASE SOME OF OUR REGULATIONS INTERNALLY THROUGH THE CITY
POLICY.
SO THE KEY THERE IS THAT CITY CEMETERIES WILL BE PROTECTED

CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE PREVIOUS REQUEST OF COUNCIL IS,
WHICH IS TO PROHIBIT PARKING AND TO PROHIBIT LOADING.
I THINK LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THERE ARE DETAILS THAT
THESE CEMETERIES, WE DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE SO BROAD AS TO
PROHIBIT THOSE, SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
LIMITING PARKING ON CITY CEMETERIES, AND ANY LOADING OR ANY
OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT AREN'T CONSISTENT WITH THE CEMETERY
PROPERTY.
FINALLY, JUST AN UPDATE THAT THE STATE LAW IS BEING UPDATED
RIGHT NOW, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE GOOD, IT'S GOING TO BE A
NEW PROGRAM, IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE EXTRA PROTECTIONS FOR
CEMETERIES AND PARTICULARLY MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR US HERE,
IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CITY TO
RECEIVE GRANTS TO HELP RESTORE, MAINTAIN ABANDONED
CEMETERIES.
SO THAT'S JUST A QUICK UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
1:36:13PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I'M GLAD YOU LOOKED INTO THE STATE
SITUATION.
I TOLD YOU I KNEW IT WAS CHANGING SO I AM GLAD WE ARE DOING
THAT.
I STILL HAVEN'T GOT MUCH DETAIL ON THE 30th AND SLIGH
SITUATION.
1:36:24PM >>CARL BRODY:
THE ADMINISTRATION IS WORKING ON TRYING TO
TRACK DOWN AND NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE 30th AND

SLIGH.
THAT'S A SMALL CEMETERY SO THEY ARE WORKING ON TRACKING THAT
DOWN.
AND WE WILL TRY TO GET THE SAME AGREEMENT WE HAVE WITH THE
ITALIAN CLUB WHICH IS YOU GO AHEAD AND DO THE GPR OR ALLOW
US TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO GPR AND WE WILL GET THE RESULTS
AND DETERMINE WHAT'S UNDER THE GROUND THERE.
1:36:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO YOU GOT THE ACTUAL CEMETERY TO THE WEST
A LITTLE BIT.
YOU HAVE THE OPEN FIELD TO THE EAST.
SO IS THAT ALL PART OF IT OR IS THAT AN OPEN PIECE OF PARCEL
THERE?
1:37:06PM >>CARL BRODY:
FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THE ACTUALS ROBLES PARK
CEMETERY IS THAT SMALLER AREA.
SO THAT'S THE AREA -- IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM, IF THERE WAS
ANY UNDERGROUND GRAVES THERE, ADJACENT TO THAT SMALLER
PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE ON THAT.
1:37:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
BUT THERE IS A SOLE OWNER FOR BOTH THOSE
PIECES, ALL THAT PARCEL RIGHT THERE FROM THE 30th TO THE
NORTHWEST CORNER OF 30th AND SLIGH?
1:37:38PM >>CARL BRODY:
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK INTO.
WHAT THE SPECIFIC PARAMETERS OF THE ROBLES CEMETERY IS, AND
THE OWNERSHIP ON THAT, BECAUSE YOU ARE RIGHT, THERE IS A
LARGE LOT, AND WE HAVE TO DETERMINE WHO THE OWNER OF THAT IS

AND ENTER INTO THE SAME NEGOTIATIONS THAT WE DO WITH THE
ITALIAN CLUB IN ORDER TO GET THE GPR.
SAME UNDERLYING ISSUES, THOUGH.
1:38:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
SO ANOTHER 69 DAYS BEFORE WE CAN COME UP
WITH THAT ON ROBLES AND 30th STREET AND SLIGH?
1:38:12PM >>CARL BRODY:
I WILL TALK TO THEM AND SEE WHERE WE ARE IN
TERMS OF GETTING THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
1:38:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU.
BECAUSE ASKING FOR ALL KIND OF THINGS, FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
AND IT'S LIKE A LITTLE SWAMP SOMETIMES, BUT STILL, SOME
THINGS ARE SACRED TO THE -- JUST SACRED, YOU KNOW.
1:38:33PM >>CARL BRODY:
I AGREE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO AND DEFINITELY ANY
PROPERTY THAT WE OWN, WE ARE GOING TO TREAT IT IN THE PROPER
MANNER.
1:38:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I'M GOOD, SIR.
1:38:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:38:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE ITALIAN CLUB AND THE INSPECTION THAT'S
GOING TO BE HAPPENING, ARE WE GOING TO BE THERE AT ALL, OR
JUST GOING TO GET THE REPORT, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK?
1:39:04PM >>CARL BRODY:
THAT WAS THE AGREEMENT THAT THEY WOULD DO THE
SEARCH, AND THEN THEY WOULD PROVIDE US THE REPORT.

1:39:10PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AND COULD WE -- AND MAYBE WE'LL CROSS THAT
BRIDGE WHENEVER IT HAPPENS, BUT -- AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON
THESE SCANS AT ALL.
YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU DEAL WITH EXPERTS ON THINGS THERE'S
DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THINGS ET CETERA, SO WE WILL CROSS THAT
BRIDGE WHENEVER IT COMES AND WHATNOT.
ONE THING I WOULD ASK YOU, AND I SEE MS. ALDERMAN WHO IS
HERE AND SHE HAS BEEN -- NOT SO INSTRUMENTAL, SHE HAS BEEN
INSTRUMENTAL.
AND ALL IF MY OFFICE NEEDS TO HELP WITH THAT, THAT WOULD BE
GREAT.
BUT WE'LL JUST WAIT ON THE REPORT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AND
SEE WHERE IT GOES.
AND I'M SURE THAT THIS WILL RETURN TO US, AND I KNOW
COUNCILMAN GUDES BROUGHT THIS FORWARD, IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE
IT RETURNED TO US WHENEVER.
WHEN ARE WE EXPECTING THE REPORT AGAIN?
1:40:02PM >>CARL BRODY:
SO THE REPORT WE EXPECT SOMETIME IN MAY.
SO MAYBE IF WE BRING THIS BACK -- SAY 60 DAYS, THAT
DEFINITELY GIVES US TIME TO HAVE A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT, AND
THEN DISCUSS THE RESULTS.
1:40:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, SIR.
I APPRECIATE IT.
1:40:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU.

1:40:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HE WAS GOING TO LET US KNOW.
1:40:37PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
[OFF MICROPHONE]
1:40:45PM >>CARL BRODY:
I WOULD THINK SO.
IF YOU WANT --
1:40:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THE PROCESS OF THAT.
1:40:56PM >>CARL BRODY:
WHEN WE COME BACK YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE
INFORMATION, SO IF WE DO 90 DAYS THAT WILL GIVE US MORE THAN
ENOUGH TIME TO CLEAN THEM UP AND HAVE THE FINAL RESPONSE TO
YOU.
JULY 13 SOUNDS GREAT.
1:41:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
IS THAT GOOD FOR YOU?
1:41:11PM >> SO MOVED.
1:41:15PM >> SECOND.
1:41:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IS THERE ANY OBJECTION?
MOTION PASSES.
1:41:23PM >>CARL BRODY:
THANK YOU.
1:41:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE TO GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 67. IS THAT WITHDRAWN?
1:41:32PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
THE REQUEST IS TO CONTINUE THIS TO THE SEPTEMBER 21st
2023 PUBLIC HEARING.

1:41:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
[OFF MICROPHONE] MOVE TO OPEN --
1:41:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES,
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
1:41:54PM >> THE REQUEST IS TO CONTINUE A HEARING FOR ARC 22-180 TO
THE SEPTEMBER 21st, 2023 PUBLIC HEARING, I BELIEVE IT
WILL BE AT 10:30 A.M.
1:42:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES, SECOND BY
COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
1:42:12PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE:
THANK YOU.
1:42:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 78.
CM 22-74623.
1:42:30PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
CITY ATTORNEY.
THIS IS THE REQUEST FOR THE RESOLUTION SETTING FORTH THE
PROCESS BY WHICH THE CITY WOULD ADVISE THE INDIVIDUAL
MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL SHOULD THE CITY, ANYONE IN THE CITY
RECEIVE NOTICE THAT THE CITY IS UNDER INVESTIGATIONS FOR
VIOLATION OF CIVIL RIGHTS STATUTES.
IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED WHEN THIS MOTION WAS MADE.
THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO MENTION, I KNOW WHEN COUNCILMAN

CARLSON ORIGINALLY MADE THE MOTION HE ASKED FOR A TEN-DAY
NOTICE.
GIVEN THAT SOMETIMES THOSE HOLIDAYS OR SHORT WEEKS,
WHATEVER, I THOUGHT IT WAS REASONABLE TO CHANGE IT TO 13
DAYS.
JUST, YOU KNOW, IN CASE.
THE OTHER THING IS, I THINK IT WOULD AT ONE POINT IN TIME,
THE MOTION REFERENCED CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS.
WHILE I AM NO SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON THOSE, WHAT I HAVE
COME TO LEARN IS BASICALLY YOU ARE NOT NOTIFIED WHEN YOU ARE
UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR VIOLATION OF CRIMINAL LAWS,
TYPICALLY.
SO IT REALLY WOULDN'T BE NECESSARY OR REALISTIC TO HAVE A
PROCESS FOR THAT BECAUSE IT'S SO INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY THAT
THE CITY AS AN ENTITY WOULD BE NOTIFIED THAT IT WAS BEING
INVESTIGATED FOR VIOLATION OF CRIMES.
I AM NOT EVEN SURE HOW THE CITY AS AN ENTITY COULD COMMIT A
CRIME, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE.
SO IN ANY EVENT, THAT WAS -- I JUST WANTED TO POINT THOSE
OUT.
AGAIN, I THINK THE RESOLUTION IS STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I CAN DESCRIBE THE PROCESS AGAIN IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
WE DISCUSSED IT WHEN THE MOTION WAS MADE.
OR WE CAN SKIP THAT PART.
1:44:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANY QUESTIONS?

COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:44:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NOT A QUESTION.
I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AGAIN.
THIS IS LIKE THE SIXTH TIME THAT YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT
HAVE PARTNERED WITH US TO GET SOMETHING DONE AND BRING IT IN
FOR A LANDING SO I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
I AM HAPPY TO -- DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT?
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
1:44:46PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
THANK YOU.
OFF TOPIC BUT EARLIER TODAY, NICOLE TRAVIS MENTIONED
SOMETHING ABOUT A PRESS CONFERENCE AT TAMPA HOPE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ASSURE COUNCIL BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A
SENSITIVE TOPIC, THE CONFERENCE WAS NOT ORGANIZED BY THE
CITY OF TAMPA, IT WAS ORGANIZED BY TAMPA HOPE, THEY DID IT
ON THE DATE AND TIME THAT WORKED BEST FOR THEIR SCHEDULE.
THE CITY DIDN'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT.
SO I DID ASK, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, KEEP YOU ALL AWARE OF
THAT.
THANK YOU.
THAT'S ALL.
1:45:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THE RESOLUTION TO CM 22-74623.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU SECONDED IT.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE A MOTION.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION CARRIES.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 80.
FILE CM 23-80251.
1:46:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 80.
FILE CM 80251 TO REPORT ON A PROCESS TO REPORT CITY COUNCIL
AS TO -- INFORM CITY COUNCIL AS TO WHEN THERE IS A REQUEST
FOR PROPOSAL OR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS EARLIER IN THE
RFP PROCESS.
AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY
AND CHIEF OF STAFF, AND I ALSO HAD VERY INTERESTING AND
INFORMATIVE CONVERSATIONS WITH BOTH GREG SPEARMAN IN
PURCHASING AND WITH BRAD BAIRD IN CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, I PASSED OUT SOME SLIDES, JUST
TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE PROCESS.
IT'S INTERESTING THAT COUNCIL HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION TODAY
DURING ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE REGARDING THE CIP.
AND A LOT OF WHAT IS PLANNING FOR CONSTRUCTION IS CONTAINED
WITHIN THE CIP, AND THAT IS A PROGRAM, FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
SO WHEN COUNCIL DOES HAVE THOSE BRIEFINGS AND THOSE
WORKSHOPS, AND THE DISCUSSION DURING THE CHARTER, THAT IS
VERY MUCH GIVING YOU THE ROAD MAP OF WHAT IS FORTHCOMING.
AND, OF COURSE, WHEN YOU HAVE THESE UPDATES, YOU ARE BEING
TOLD PERHAPS OF THE PROCESSES THAT ARE UNDERWAY, THE

PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY, BUT IT'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO
LEARN WHAT IS FORTHCOMING SO YOU WILL HAVE ADVANCED NOTICE
OF WHERE THE CITY IS, AND AGAIN, CIP IS A LIVING DOCUMENT.
SO AS THINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO MOVE UP EACH YEAR, SOMETIMES
SITUATIONS CHANGE AND THE ECONOMY CHANGES, PRIORITIES
CHANGE, AND THE CIP SOMEWHAT CHANGES.
SO YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO INQUIRE OF CHANGES FROM,
LET'S SAY, ONE YEAR'S CIP TO THE NEXT YEAR TO BE ABLE TO GET
A SENSE OF WHAT PRIORITIES IF ANY ARE CHANGING WITHIN THE
CITY.
NOW, THERE ARE REALLY SOME REALLY GOOD RESOURCES -- AND I AM
NOT SAYING THIS JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE
I AM SAYING THIS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, TOO, THAT
THE CITY'S WEBSITE CONTAINS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT IS ALL
USEFUL, AND WHAT I AM GOING TO BE SHARING WITH YOU -- AND I
HAVE PREPARED SOME SLIDES ALL FROM THE CITY'S WEBSITE, THE
CITY'S WEB PAGE.
AND IT'S NOT JUST THE INTERNET.
THIS IS NOT WITHIN THE CITY.
THIS IS AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT TAMPAGOV -- TAMPA.GOV.
SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THIS DOWN JUST TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE
SOURCES WHERE YOU AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR ABOUT
THINGS BEFORE THEY END UP ON THE CONSENT DOCKET OR UNDER
STAFF REPORTS FOR THE APPROVAL OF A CONTRACT.
THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING INTERACTIVE SITE, AND ALL YOU

HAVE TO DO TO GET DO THIS IS IN THE SEARCH BAR, YOU PUT IN
CIP, AND IT WILL TAKE YOU RIGHT THERE.
AND THIS IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS VIEWER.
AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT GIVES YOU INFORMATION AS TO SPECIFIC
PROJECTS.
IT ALSO BREAKS IT DOWN TO MANY DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES.
IT BREAKS IT DOWN INTO DISTRICTS, AND BREAKS IT DOWN INTO
NEIGHBORHOODS, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT'S BEING
PROPOSED AND WHAT'S BEING UNDERWAY.
AND THIS IS UPDATED REGULARLY.
I BELIEVE THIS IS UPDATED ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
NOW, COUNCIL, YOU HAD THE BENEFIT OF A PRESENTATION ON
JANUARY 26th WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION REPORTED TO YOU
ABOUT THE CIP PROCESS THAT YOU ARE CONTINUING TO MOVE
FORWARD, AND YOU JUST SET AN ADDITIONAL WORKSHOP ON THAT
SUBJECT.
AND WITH THAT, YOU HAD A WHOLE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE KIND OF
INTERACTION THAT THE PUBLIC HAS, AND THAT THE ADMINISTRATION
HAS WITH YOU TO BE ABLE TO KEEP YOU INFORMED.
AND I BELIEVE THE DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL IS TAKING WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE THESE REGULAR UPDATES WILL CERTAINLY
BE OF BENEFIT TO YOU, BECAUSE IT WILL BE BROUGHT UP TO DATE,
AND YOU WILL BE BROUGHT UP TO DATE, AND YOU WILL HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE THE ADMINISTRATION AND ASK QUESTIONS
ABOUT UPCOMING PROJECTS OR PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDER

CONSTRUCTION.
NOW, ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS HERE IS THAT IF THE
PUBLIC IS INTERESTED, THAT WHOLE PRESENTATION, BY THE WAY,
IS AVAILABLE ON THIS WEBSITE, JUST BY PUTTING IN CIP IN THE
SEARCH BAR AND IT TAKES YOU TO WHAT THE PRESENTATION WAS
MADE ON JANUARY 26th.
YOU HAVE THE PowerPoint THERE, SO THE PUBLIC CAN LOOK AT
THAT AND SEE WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS PROPOSED, AND ALSO
THERE'S AN EXCELLENT ABOUT A 3-MINUTE VIDEO THAT ACTUALLY
INSTRUCTS YOU ON HOW TO USE THE CIP VIEWER.
SO THAT IS AN ASSET THAT YOU AND THE PUBLIC CAN TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF TO SEE WHAT IS IN THE PIPELINE FOR THE CAPITAL
IMPROVEMENTS.
NOW, GOING TO -- THE WAY TO GET DO THESE WEBSITES FOR
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS GOVERNMENT AT
THE TOP?
IT'S A DROP-DOWN.
IT'S RIGHT TO THE LEFT OF THE WORD JOBS AT THE FAR RIGHT
CORNER.
AND YOU DROP DOWN ON THE WORD "GOVERNMENT" AND YOU GO TO
"DEPARTMENTS."
AND WHEN YOU GO TO DEPARTMENTS, IT WILL LIST ALL OF THE
DEVELOPMENTS OF THE CITY.
YOU SCROLL DOWN TO CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, AND IT TAKES YOU
TO THEIR LANDING PAGE.

AND THERE ARE SOME VERY USEFUL LINKS THAT WILL INFORM YOU
ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH REGARD TO CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION.
NOW, THE CITY HAS -- IT'S CALLED CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION,
AND THAT IS REALLY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS, OBVIOUSLY
ADMINISTRATION OF THE CONTRACTS, AND IT'S THOSE THINGS THAT
ARE VERTICAL OR IN THE GROUND, THINGS THAT ARE BUILT.
AND WHAT'S INTERESTING THERE IS THAT YOU HAVE LINKS TO THE
LEFT THAT ARE USEFUL.
ONE OF THOSE IS A LINK THAT WE'LL GET TO NO MINUTE WHERE IT
SAYS PURCHASING, AND IT TAKES YOU TO PURCHASING.
BUT WHAT IS VERY INTERESTING IN CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION IS
THE LINK AT THE BOTTOM THAT SAYS FUTURE PROJECTS REPORT.
AND YOU SEE THAT WHERE IT SAYS LEARN MORE ABOUT.
AND WHEN YOU TAKE THAT, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WHAT THAT
DOES -- AND THIS IS UPDATED MONTHLY, AND ALL OF THESE ARE
KEPT CURRENT BY THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO THAT YOU ARE APPRISED AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC IS APPRISED
OF ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AND YOU CAN SEE, LET'S SAY FOR
INSTANCE, JUST THE TOP LINE THE WATERS AVENUE SEWER
REHABILITATION BY CIP, IT TELLS YOU THE COST ESTIMATE, AND
IT ALSO HAS ESTIMATED RFQ OR BID ADVERTISING.
NOW, WITH REGARD TO BIDS, RFQs OR RFPS, IT'S AN INVOLVED
PROCESS SO I LEARNED TO THE POINT THAT IT GETS TO BE
RELEASED OR BROADCAST.

AND FROM THE TIME THAT IT IS RELEASED AND BROADCAST, THERE
IS A CERTAIN CONE OF SILENCE AS STOW COMMUNICATIONS ABOUT
BEING ABLE TO DISCUSS THESE.
NOW OBVIOUSLY YOU AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU SEE SEWING
THAT HAS YOUR INTEREST, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY AND
THE OPPORTUNITY AND ARE ENCOURAGED TO PICK UP THE PHONE AND
TALK TO THE ADMINISTRATOR OR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO GET YOUR
QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
IF YOU THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT TO CITY
COUNCIL YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.
BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING, IT TELLS YOU THE DEPARTMENT BUT ALSO
TELLS YOU ABOUT THE ESTIMATED RFQ OR BID ADVERTISING MARK
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT IS WORKING FORWARD AND GOES DOWN
THE LIST, OBVIOUSLY SOME THINGS ARE TO BE DETERMINED.
I GO TO PAGE 2 HERE.
YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING SET FORTH IN RED.
AND IT TELLS YOU SOME THINGS ARE DELAYED, SOME THINGS HAVE A
DATE, AND SOME THINGS ARE TO BE DETERMINED.
NOW AGAIN IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT INTERESTS YOU AS A
COUNCILMEMBER OR A CONSTITUENT THAT'S BROUGHT TO YOUR
ATTENTION WHEN YOU SEE THAT AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE DEPTH OF
KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT IS, IS SOMETHING
THAT YOU CAN DRILL DOWN TALKING TO THE DEPARTMENT AND GET
THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT CAN HELP YOU BE PREPARED FOR
THESE THINGS COMING FORTH IN ADVANCE.

SO USING TOOLS LIKE THIS, COUNCIL CAN KEEP ITSELF INFORMED
ABOUT THE FUTURE PROJECTS.
AND LASTLY, IF I WERE TO CLICK THE DEPARTMENT THAT SAYS
"PURCHASING," OR IF I WERE TO CLICK THE QUICK LINK ON THE
CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION PAGE, IT WOULD TAKE ME HERE.
LIKEWISE, IF YOU NOTICE ON THIS, YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A
QUICK LINK -- AND MAKE THIS BIGGER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE
PUBLIC -- WE ALSO HAVE A DIRECT LINK HERE FOR CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION, SO YOU CAN GET TO THAT DEPARTMENT QUICKLY.
NOW, WITH REGARD TO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, THEY DON'T
DEAL WITH CONSTRUCTION, THEY DEAL WITH PURCHASING.
AND THE TOOL THAT THEY USE PRIMARILY IS CALLED DEMANDSTAR.
AND DEMANDSTAR IS A PLATFORM THAT YOU CAN GET TO
INFORMATION, BUT IN ORDER TO DRILL DOWN FURTHER, AS IT'S
PRESENTLY SET UP AND FOR MANY REASONS, SECURITY REASONS
BEING ONE OF THEM, AND YOU CANNOT ACTUALLY GET TO
NECESSARILY THE DOCUMENTS THAT WAY UNLESS YOU ARE REGISTERED
AS A DEMANDSTAR USER.
NOW MAYBE IT CAN BE SET UP, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A
PLATFORM CALLED "GET ALL" THAT INTERNALLY THEY MAY BE ABLE
TO GET THAT AND SET THAT UP WITH COUNCIL IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S
INTEREST TO BE ABLE TO DRILL DOWN.
OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS QUICK LINKS ON THE
LEFT AND TO LEARN MORE ABOUT EVERY ONE OF THOSE LIVE LINKS
PROVIDE YOU THE ABILITY FOR INFORMATION.

AND YOU CAN GET, FOR INSTANCE, TO THE LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT TO
FIND OUT WHAT THE LEGAL ADS ARE.
BUT WITHIN THE RFPs, SOMETIMES IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE
TO DRILL DOWN, AND IF YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET TO IT BY
REGISTERING FOR DIRECT DEMANDSTAR AND IF IT'S COUNCIL'S
PLEASURE TO HAVE ACCESS TO THAT, COUNCIL CAN WORK WITH THE
DEPARTMENT, WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDING
FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE YOU ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
SO LONG STORY SHORT, THERE IS INFORMATION ON THE CITY'S
WEBSITE, BOTH COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC, TO BE ABLE TO TELL
WHAT'S FORTH COME, SO YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO
BE APPRISED OF INFORMATION BEFORE IT SHOWS UP ON THE CONSENT
DOCKET OR BEFORE IT SHOWS UP UNDER STAFF REPORTS, AND ALSO,
IF YOU WISH TO HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR YOU HAVE
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I KNOW WE ARE RUNNING A LITTLE BIT
LATE, HE DON'T WANT TO TAP UP ANY MORE TIME, BUT I SUGGEST
IF IT COME UP IN THE FUTURE IF COUNCIL WANTS TO SET FORTH A
WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS OF WHAT IT TAKES TO
CREATE AN RFP, OR TO CREATE AN RFQ SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT GOES
INTO THE PROCESS BEFORE IT COMES TO COUNCIL, AND ALSO TO
INFORM THE PUBLIC OF ADDITIONAL TOOLS THAT YOU MAY FEEL ARE
NECESSARY, IF IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE WE CAN SCHEDULE A
WORKSHOP IN THE FUTURE AND YOU CAN WORK WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION AND INVITE THE DEVELOPMENTS TO BE ABLE TO
APPRISE YOU FURTHER.

THAT'S MY REPORT.
THANK YOU.
1:58:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES, IT WAS YOUR MOTION.

1:55:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES, THIS WAS YOUR MOTION.
1:58:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY, FOR DOING SOME OF
THE LEGWORK.
A LOT OF QUESTIONS COMING UP ABOUT CONTRACTS THE LAST FOUR
YEARS, THE RFPs.
THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT UP HOW IS IT WRITTEN?
HOW DOES IT COME BEFORE COUNCIL SENDING IT OUT?
MAYBE GOING FORWARD, MAYBE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO A WORKSHOP SO
COUNCIL IS AWARE OF HOW THAT PROCESS ACTUALLY WORKS.
I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD TO HAVE, BECAUSE I THINK THE
PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, TOO.
AND MAYBE THE SITUATION THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST WITH
THESE CONTRACTS OR WHY THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE HERE, THERE,
WE MIGHT GET SOME ANSWERS BEFOREHAND INSTEAD OF AFTER HAND.
1:58:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I HAVE BROACHED THAT SUBJECT WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION.
SPEAKING WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, I
BELIEVE THE ADMINISTRATION IS AMENABLE TO DOING THAT.
1:59:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:59:12PM >>BILL CARLSON:
FIRST, I KNOW THAT CHIEF OF STAFF HAS BEEN
LOOKING AT THIS DEPARTMENT SINCE I FIRST HAD CONCERNS MAYBE

FOUR YEARS AGO.
AND NOW HE'S GOT BRAD BAIRD IN THERE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO
TURN IT AROUND AND FIX IT.
THE COMMUNITY HAS A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION IN PARTICULAR.
THE HIGH NUMBER OF NO-BID CONTRACTS AND WE'VE HAD
PRESENTATIONS ON IT TWO OR THREE TIMES, AND THE
PRESENTATIONS END UP EXPLAINING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SOLE
SOURCE AND SINGLE BID CONTRACTS VERSUS TALKING TO US ABOUT
HOW TO END THEM.
THE LAST TIME I COUNTED A FEW WEEKS AGO, WE HAD STILL ABOUT
15% SINGLE BID CONTRACTS.
THERE ARE CERTAIN SITUATIONS WHERE ONE VENDOR IS THE ONLY
ONE THAT MAKES A CERTAIN CHEMICAL AND WE CAN ONLY BUY FROM
THEM.
WHEN WE STARTED FOUR YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A PURCHASE OF HD
CAMERAS FOR THE POLICE HELICOPTERS AND THE CRITERIA WAS SET
FOR 30 MILES, AND THERE WAS A VENDOR IN ORLANDO THAT WAS 85
MILES AWAY AND THEY DIDN'T QUALIFY, BUT THE VENDOR THAT DID
QUALIFY WAS EXACTLY 30 MILES AWAY.
AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT WE NEED TO END.
IT LOOKS LIKE TARGETED RFP AND THE COMMUNITY IS VERY
CONCERNED ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY WANT COMPETITIVENESS AND
THEY WANT GOOD PRICING.
SO SINGLE BID CONTRACTS ARE ONE THING.

IN THE PAST THE COMMUNITY HAS COMPLAINED TO SAY IT SEEMS
SOME RFPs ARE PUSHED OUT AND SOME AREN'T.
I THINK THIS HAPPENED MORE IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION THAN
THIS ONE.
SIX YEARS AGO OR SO, THERE WAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT SOLD
AND THEN SHORT TIME AFTER DEVELOPERS FLIPPED IT FOR 50 OR
100 PERCENT MORE.
SO THAT'S IN REAL ESTATE.
BUT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON ALL THAT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE RFPs ARE OPEN.
BUT MY BIG CONCERN RELATED TO THIS -- THE COMPETITIVENESS IS
A HUGE CONCERN.
BUT THE SECOND CONCERN IS THAT CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO KNOW AT
THE VERY LEAST WHEN A BIG RFP IS AWARDED AND THE SAME THING
WITH THE OTHER THINGS, MAYBE OVER 20 MILLION OR OVER 50
MILLION, BUT AN EXAMPLE, THE ROME YARD PROJECT WAS AWARDED.
STAFF HAD SOME KIND OF PROCESS THAT WAS AWARDED.
THERE WAS A PRESS CONFERENCE TO SAY THAT IT WAS AWARDED.
THE FIRST TIME IT WAS PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL WAS A YEAR
LATER WHEN THE CONTRACT HAD BEEN NEGOTIATED.
THERE WAS NO OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WEIGH IN AT ALL.
AND I WOULD SUGGEST AT THE VERY LEAST CONTRACTS OVER 50
MILLION WHEN THE RFP IS AWARDED THAT STAFF WOULD EXPLAIN IT
TO US BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC.
THAT ONE THERE WAS A LOT OF MEDIA COVERAGE.

WE GOT QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC, DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER
ANYTHING.
SURE WE COULD TALK TO STAFF INDIVIDUALLY BUT IT WOULD BE
BETTER TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY IN HOW TO DISCUSS IT.
MAYBE THE THRESHOLD IS 20 MILLION INSTEAD OF 50, I DON'T
KNOW.
BUT THE OTHER THING IS ON BIG RFPs THAT ARE COMPLICATED,
THE MORE THE STAFF BRIEFS US AND ESPECIALLY IF THEY BRIEF US
PUBLICLY, THEN THE PUBLIC KNOWS, THE MORE THEY BRIEF US ON
THE PROCESS THEY ARE USING, THE BETTER IT WILL BE.
AND THEN THAT ROME YARD CASE AGAIN I THINK IT WOULD HAVE
BENEFITED US ALL HAD THE STAFF DISCUSSED IT.
SOME OF THE REALLY BIG CONTRACTS HAVE A LOT OF CONTROVERSY
ATTACHED TO THEM.
WHETHER THERE WAS ANYTHING BAD THAT HAPPENED OR NOT, THE
MORE TRANSPARENCY WE PROVIDE BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER THE
RFP PROCESS, THE BETTER IT IS FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND.
AND IN THAT WAY WE PREVENT LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND SPECULATION
AND EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
SO THANK YOU.
2:03:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:03:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
ON THAT NOTE, MR. CARLSON, BECAUSE
SOMETIMES YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE RFPs, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S
DRIVEN FOR A CERTAIN PARTICULAR PERSON TO GET THE CONTRACT

AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM I HAVE.
AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM THE COMMUNITY IS SAYING, THAT WHEN
THEY ARE WRITTEN, WE DON'T KNOW UNTIL THE AFTEREFFECT.
WE'RE THE CLEANUP GUYS THAT ASK QUESTIONS AFTER THE FACT
VERSUS US SEEING UP FRONT WHAT DID YOU JUST PUT OUT TO THE
PUBLIC OR HOW IS THIS CONTRACT TO MAKE SURE IT IS FAIR FOR
EVERYONE TO BID ON IT?
I THINK THAT'S THE KEY TO IT ALL.
MAKING SURE THE PROCESS IS FAIR AND THAT WE LOOK AT AND SEE
TO MAKE SURE THAT CERTAIN THINGS ARE NOT OMITTED THAT SHOULD
BE IN THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS GETTING THE
OPPORTUNITY TO BID.
2:04:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELL, THAT RAISES THE QUESTION THEN OF WHAT
GOES INTO THE CREATION OF AN RFP OR RFQ.
2:04:07PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S WHAT I ASKED ABOUT THAT.
I ASKED THAT.
2:04:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IT IS A MORE COMPLICATED, LONGER PROCESS
THAN, AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT WAS FOR ME ALSO A LEARNING
EXPERIENCE ABOUT HOW THE ORGANIZATION DOES IT.
OF COURSE, IN THE FRAMEWORK WE HAVE UNDER THE CHARTER, THE
MAYOR NEGOTIATES THE CONTRACTS, THE MAYOR IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
THAT.
I THINK IT IS A WORTHY DISCUSSION, COUNCIL.
I WOULD RECOMMEND IT.
THE ADMINISTRATION, I THINK, WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF

INFORMING COUNCIL ABOUT THAT PROCESS.
AND IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS, THEN PERHAPS THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED
IN SOME FORM OR FASHION WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE HAVE.
2:04:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE MAYOR
NEGOTIATING CONTRACTS.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS COUNCIL APPROVES THE
CONTRACT, CORRECT?
2:04:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT'S AT THE END OF THE DAY.
2:05:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
CORRECT.
AGAIN, EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN NEGOTIATE, I STILL THINK THERE
IS A PROCESS IN THERE BEFORE IT EVEN GETS TO US EVEN TALKING
ABOUT APPROVING IT FOR US TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT'S IN THERE
BECAUSE IT MAY BE A CONVERSATION TO TELL THE ADMINISTRATION,
TAKE THAT BACK.
IT NEEDS TO BE NEGOTIATED IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
2:05:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN HAVE WITH
THE ADMINISTRATION.
THAT IS A CONCERN BECAUSE ALSO THE THING -- I BELIEVE THERE
WAS A COMMENT BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER THE RFP, BUT BEFORE
THE RFP, THERE IS USUALLY A PREBID MEETING OR A MEETING THAT
IS ACCESSIBLE THAT PEOPLE CAN FIND OUT THROUGH THE DEMAND
STAR OR THROUGH THE WEBSITE BEFORE IT'S BROADCAST AND THEN
MAYBE MARCY CAN HELP ABOUT THE PROCESS.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ONCE AN RFP IS SENT OUT, THERE

ARE CERTAIN PARAMETERS IN TERMS OF NEGOTIATION.
IT'S MEANT TO BE IDEALLY AND, OF COURSE, A LOT OF IT IS
GOVERNED BY THE CCNA, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT.
IT'S GOVERNED BY STATE STATUTE FOR THE PROCESS OF, LET'S
SAY, ARCHITECTS AND THE LIKE AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS, BUT
WITH REGARD TO CREATING A MEANS TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE AN RFP,
AN RFQ, THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT, FRANKLY, RAISES SOME
CONCERN FOR THE ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WHAT
WE HAVE HERE IS WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT'S SET UP TO ACTUALLY
BE SOMEWHAT HANDS OFF AND NOT SUBJECT TO PRESSURE I GUESS
FROM POLITICAL PRESSURE, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
SO YOU ASK A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL'S CONCERNS, AND YOU HEAR THOSE FROM
YOUR CONSTITUENTS, AND IF THAT'S A QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE
DISCUSSED FURTHER, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST THAT COUNCIL EITHER
SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE OR WE CAN ASK
FOR A STAFF REPORT OR WE CAN TALK -- I CAN CONTINUE THE
DIALOGUE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.
THE MEETING THAT I HAD WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CHIEF
OF STAFF WERE PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE PROCESS.
AND THE CONCERNS ABOUT INTERFERING -- NOT NECESSARILY
CAUSING INTERFERENCE, BUT HAVING THE PROCESS FOLLOW THE
NORMAL COURSE TO THE POINT WHERE ULTIMATELY THE DECISION TO
BE MADE SHOULD NOT BE DRIVEN BY ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE
CRITERIA THAT MAKES THEM THE BEST PERSON, THE BEST COMPANY

SELECTED.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCIL'S CONCERN IS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW BEST TO RECOMMEND TO ADDRESS THAT EXCEPT
FOR THE FACT THAT ONCE YOU SPEND TIME LEARNING OF WHAT THE
PROCESS IS AND THEN YOU CAN LEARN ABOUT WHERE ALONG THE LINE
YOU CAN INSERT COUNCIL'S OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT, THEN YOU CAN
ACTUALLY TAKE MORE EFFECTIVE ACTION.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IS, AGAIN, WITH REGARD
PARTICULARLY TO THE CIP IS TO FIND OUT WHAT'S IN THE
PIPELINE.
WHAT'S GOING TO BE FORTHCOMING, AND WHAT THEN IS THE
PROCESS?
HOW DO YOU INTEND -- YOU CAN ASK THE ADMINISTRATION, HOW DO
YOU INTEND TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT TO
LEARN MORE?
2:08:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
MR. SHELBY, I'M SURE THIS IS NOT THE FIRST
TIME SOME CITY HAS HAD THIS KIND OF QUESTION OR CHALLENGE.
THERE'S GOT TO BE A PROCESS OUT THERE THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS
USING IN REFERENCE TO WHAT WE'RE ASKING OR LOOKING FOR.
2:08:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
2:08:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
I DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION
-- I'M ASKING FOR YOUR, AS A CITY TO COME AND GIVE US FACTS
OF WHAT IS OUT THERE.
THE ADMINISTRATION CAN TELL US IT'S BLUE BUT ACTUALLY IT
COULD BE GREEN.

2:08:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR ME TO DO THEN IS
TO DO A COMPARISON ABOUT HOW SIMILARLY SITUATED CITIES IN
FLORIDA, LET'S SAY, DEALING WITH THESE ISSUES ADDRESS THE
SAME KIND OF CONCERNS, PARTICULARLY WITH A STRONG MAYOR FORM
OF GOVERNMENT.
I USE THE TERM AN ELECTED MAYOR FORM OF GOVERNMENT.
IS THAT WHAT COUNCIL WISHES?
IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, THAT IS THE DIRECTION I'LL
TAKE.
I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
2:09:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:09:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MR. SHELBY, THE REFERENCES THAT WERE MADE, TALKING JOHN Q.
PUBLIC AND I SEE ADS IN THE ST. PETE, TAMPA BAY TIMES ON
WEDNESDAYS AND SUNDAYS.
THAT'S THE ONLY TWO DAYS THEY PRINT.
I DON'T DO THE OTHERS.
MONDAY, THE REST OF THE DAYS THEY DO ON THE COMPUTERS AND SO
FORTH.
BUT I SEE ADS THAT SAYS CITY OF TAMPA OR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
OR ST. PETE OR CLEARWATER, AND THOSE ADS I GUESS ARE ASKING
PEOPLE THAT THE CITY, THIS CITY AND OTHER CITIES ARE GOING
TO HAVE A CERTAIN PROJECT THAT THEY NEED FROM POINT A TO
POINT B, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE OR A BUILDING OR WHATEVER.
AND THERE IS A REQUEST FOR RFQ, I GUESS THAT IS A REQUEST

FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
AND THEN A REQUEST FOR RFP.
CAN YOU TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT THEY ARE?
2:10:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ONE IS A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS AND THE
OTHER IS REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL WOULD BE SOMETHING DONE THROUGH
PURCHASING.
PURCHASING DOES PRIMARILY RFPs.
AND THAT'S FOR PURCHASING COMMODITIES AND THE LIKE.
WHEREAS RFQs ARE SITUATIONS WHERE IT IS LOOKING FOR
QUALIFIED APPLICANTS AND THOSE THEN GO TO A COMMITTEE AND
THEN THOSE -- AGAIN, THAT IS THE WHOLE PROCESS.
I'M GIVING YOU THE READER'S DIGEST VERSION, AND THOSE ARE
RANKED AND THOSE ARE PRESENTED TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR A
RECOMMENDATION.
AND WHAT HAPPENS THEN, YES --
2:11:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THINKING A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO THEN ALL THESE CITIES, INCLUDING THIS ONE, YOU SAID THEY
HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT REVIEWS THE APPLICANTS THAT APPLY.
SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE IT GOES FOR PRICING, WHO HAS THE
BEST PRICE.
AM I CORRECT OR MAYBE I'M NOT CORRECT?
2:11:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO.
I THINK MS. HAMILTON IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED IN THE PROCESS
THROUGH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

NOT WITH CCNA ANYMORE.
2:11:38PM >> MARCIE HAMILTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
THE RFP PROCESS, RFQ PROCESS, COST IS NOT NECESSARILY THE
PRIMARILY REASON FOR AWARDING A BID.
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE ACTUAL FIRM,
WHAT THEIR PAST WORK HAS BEEN.
THERE ARE VARIOUS ASPECTS.
WE ALSO DEAL WITH THE SUBCONTRACTORS, WHO THEY ARE, WHO THEY
ARE WISHING TO BRING FORWARD TO BE PART OF THEIR CONTRACT AS
A SUBCONTRACTOR UNDER THE PRIME.
2:12:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SURETY BOND OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
2:12:16PM >> PUBLIC WORKS, THERE ARE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.
BONDING, PERFORMANCE AND PAYMENT BOND, BY LAW, PUBLIC
INSTRUCTION BOND THAT INCORPORATES BOTH THE PERFORMANCE AND
PAYMENT BONDS.
2:12:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MY MIND GOES BACK A FEW MONTHS AGO, I
BELIEVE WE HAD A CONTRACT FOR WHATEVER REASON HE OR SHE
WHATEVER THE COMPANY WAS NOT DOING IT TO THE SPECIFICATIONS
OF WHICH THEY TOOK THE JOB ON.
I THINK ONE WAS IN SOUTH TAMPA IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE
DISTRICT 6, IN THE NORTHERN PART OF DISTRICT 4, AND THE
OTHER ONE WAS ARMENIA HEADING NORTH, WHEN YOU PASS WATER
AVENUES, I REMEMBER GOING, WHAT HAPPENED HERE?
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS CLOSED.

THAT COMPANY WAS OUT, RIGHT?
2:12:59PM >>MARCELLA HAMILTON:
WE HAD TWO CONTRACTS WHERE THERE WERE
DEFAULTS.
ONE WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL AS THE TAKEOVER AGREEMENT AND
WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING THAT OUT.
THE TAKEOVER AGREEMENT HAS BEEN EXECUTED.
A SURETY WITH THAT.
THERE WERE SOME ISSUES ON THAT.
SO WE ARE NEGOTIATING OUT THE FINALS AS TO GETTING THE JOB
COMPLETED.
THE OTHER IS STILL IN THE WORKS FOR THE ARMENIA.
2:13:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE BONDING COMPANY THEN HAD TO TAKE OVER
THE PROJECT, BUT IF I RECALL, WE COULDN'T TAKE OVER WHO WAS
GOING TO DO THE FINISH WORK.
THEY HAD TO GET THE COMPANY THAT THEY CHOOSE TO FINISH THE
PROJECT.
2:13:41PM >>MARCELLA HAMILTON:
CORRECT.
CORRECT.
ON THE TAKEOVER, THE BONDING, THE SURETY DOES THAT.
AND QUITE RECENTLY, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ISSUES IN THAT
REGARD.
ON OUR PARTICULAR TAKEOVER AGREEMENT, IT MOST LIKELY IS
GOING TO COME OUT TO BE MUCH MORE BENEFICIAL TO US AS THE
CITY THAN OTHER JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE SUFFERED THE SAME
CONSEQUENCES WITH THE SAME FIRM.

2:14:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST WANT TO MAKE CLARITY THAT AS FAR
AS I KNOW, MAYBE SOMEONE KNOWS SOMETHING I DON'T KNOW, WE'VE
DONE EVERYTHING ACCORDING TO HOYLE AND HOYLE NEVER EXISTED.
BUT THAT WAS THE NAME THAT CAME OUT.
I DON'T KNOW.
I LEARNED THAT IN SCHOOL SOMEWHERE.
THEY SAID HOYLE AND IT STUCK WITH ME.
I THOUGHT IT WAS HOYT WILLIAM.
IT WAS HOYLE.
WHO WAS NOT A BASEBALL PLAYER.
I'VE SEEN THE THINGS THAT COME THROUGH AND I SEE -- SAME
COMMITTEE ALL THE TIME OR DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE
AT DIFFERENT TIMES?
2:14:39PM >>MARCELLA HAMILTON:
THE CCNA COMMITTEE, IT DEPENDS UPON WHO
THE END USER IS.
IF IT'S WATER, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WATER PERSONNEL.
WE ALWAYS HAVE A MEMBER FROM EBO.
THEY WILL BE ON THE COMMITTEE.
CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION PEOPLE, BUT ALWAYS THE END USERS,
LIKE WATER, MOBILITY, WHATEVER.
2:14:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION, IS THERE A
RESPONSIBILITY TO REVIEW THE JOB AS IT'S GOING ON TO MAKE
SURE IT'S DONE ACCORDING TO THE CONTRACT?
2:15:06PM >>MARCELLA HAMILTON:
YES, THERE WILL BE PROJECT MANAGERS.
2:15:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

2:15:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:15:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST QUICKLY SUM UP, MARTY, I'M JUST
SPEAKING FOR MYSELF BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME IS
NOT ABOUT THE INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL CAN GET.
THOSE RESOURCES ARE GREAT.
THERE'S LOTS OF INFORMATION ONLINE, BUT WE HAVE TO ANSWER
THE PUBLIC, AND I THINK IT'S BEST FROM A TRANSPARENCY POINT
OF VIEW TO HAVE SOME PRESENTATION OF THIS TO US IN A PUBLIC
FORUM SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THAT WE'RE NOT HIDING
ANYTHING.
MOST CONTRACTS ARE NOT QUESTIONED, BUT THERE ARE ENOUGH THAT
ARE QUESTIONED THAT THEY BECOME LEGEND IN THE COMMUNITY AND
WE COULD AVOID ALL THAT IF WE PROVIDED SOME TRANSPARENCY.
AN EXAMPLE I WOULD GIVE WOULD BE THE CONCESSION CONTRACT AT
THE AIRPORT A FEW YEARS AGO.
2:16:02PM >> MICHAEL STEVENS.
2:16:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SOMEBODY AT THE AIRPORT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO
BE ANOTHER CITY THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE SOME GREAT IDEAS,
BUT THAT WAS A PROCESS WHERE THEY SPLIT UP THE CONTRACT.
THEY WIDELY PUBLICIZED IT.
THEY HAD FORUMS ON IT.
THE CEO, JOE LOPANO STAYED OUT OF THE PROCESS SO NO ONE
WOULD ACCUSE HIM OF FAVORITISM.
COMPARE THAT TO ATLANTA FOR FORMER AIRPORT DIRECTOR AND THE
FBI JUMPED IN AND LOOKED AT IT OR COMPARE IT TO THE

CONVENTION CENTER RFP HERE FOR CONCESSIONS THAT WAS LIKE SIX
YEARS AGO WHERE THE FIRST TIME ANYBODY SAW IT WAS IN THE
PAPER WHERE THERE WERE ALL KINDS OF ALLEGATIONS AGAINST IT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS AWARE OF WHAT'S
HAPPENING THAT THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE HANDLED IN AN OPEN
WAY AND NOT JUST A LEGAL WAY, BUT AN OPEN WAY THAT EVERYBODY
CAN SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS COMPETITIVE.
PUTTING ON DEMAND STAR IS NOT ENOUGH.
WHY IS IT THAT SOMETIMES SELLING LAND IN THE PAST ONLY HAD
ONE BIDDER?
HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?
ONE OF THE CONTRACTS WE HAD WITHIN THE FIRST FEW MONTHS WE
STARTED FOUR YEARS AGO WAS TO GIVE AWAY THREE LOTS AND ONLY
ONE BIDDER TO PAY ZERO FOR IT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PROCESS IS FAIR AND
TRANSPARENT, THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THE CRITERIA IS IN
ADVANCE AND THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING IT.
IF A CRITERIA IS THAT SOMEBODY HAS TO BE WITHIN 30 MILES AND
IT TURNS OUT THAT THE WINNING BIDDER IS EXACTLY 30 MILES,
THAT'S NOT A FAIR PROCESS.
ALSO, I PROPOSED A PROCESS A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT CHARTER AMENDMENTS WHERE THE MAYOR COULD
RECUSE HIM OR HERSELF AND EVEN IF THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAYS
THERE'S NOT AN ACTUAL CONFLICT, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA

SOMETIMES FOR THE MAYOR OR CERTAIN ADMINISTRATORS TO RECUSE
THEMSELVES.
IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER THAT'S PARTICIPATING IN ANY WAY
WITH ANY COMPANY AROUND IT, I THINK JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO
DISCLOSE IT AND HAND IN A FORM, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A
PROCESS WHETHER IT IS AN ADMINISTRATOR, MAYOR, WHOMEVER,
WHERE THEY WOULD PUBLICLY SAY FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC,
I'M STAYING OUT OF THIS PROCESS.
I'M NOT GOING TO BE INVOLVED AT ALL.
I'M NOT GOING TO PUT MY FINGER ON THE SCALE.
WE SET UP ANOTHER COMMITTEE THAT WILL LOOK AT IT.
NOBODY WILL PUT THEIR FINGER ON THE SCALE LATER.
THAT WOULD HELP BECAUSE PEOPLE FIND OUT, THE MEDIA FINDS OUT
AND SUDDENLY WE GET CALLS, THE SITUATION WE HAVE IS THAT THE
PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING, WE DON'T ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY
DON'T HAVE TIME TO RESEARCH ALL THE STUFF YOU JUST SHOWED.
SUDDENLY WE GET CALLS FROM REPORTERS THAT PEOPLE, THE PUBLIC
AND COMPETITORS FEEL BLINDSIDED.
THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION IS OPEN-ENDED CONTRACTS.
THE LAWYERS I SHOWED THE HANNA AVENUE CCNA OPINION DISAGREED
WITH IT.
BUT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY SITUATION WHERE A CONTRACT LASTS
MORE THAN A FEW YEARS AND DEFINITELY THERE SHOULD BE NO
SITUATION WHERE A CONTRACT GOES FROM 400,000 TO 121 MILLION.
I UNDERSTAND THE REASONS WHY SOMEBODY MIGHT WANT TO DO THAT,

BUT THERE SHOULD NOT BE OPEN-ENDED CONTRACTS WHERE SOMEBODY
IN A DEPARTMENT OR IN THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT
CAN JUST PICK THE SAME FIRM OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF PUBLIC PROCESS THAT BRINGS
EVERYTHING BACK UP.
THANK YOU.
2:19:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
ANYONE ELSE?
COUNCILMAN GUDES, THIS WAS YOUR MOTION, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE
ANY OTHER TYPES OF MOTIONS?
2:19:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
NO.
I'M GOOD.
2:19:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MS. ZELMAN.
2:19:39PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS.
I DO THINK MARTY'S SUGGESTION -- YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH MARTY IS WHEN WE START THE NEW
TERM, HAVING AN ORIENTATION SESSION, WHICH I THINK WILL BE
HELPFUL BOTH FOR ANY NEW MEMBERS OF COUNCIL BUT ALSO THE
RETURNING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
AND I DO THINK IT WAS VERY HELPFUL FOR ME, FOR INSTANCE, TO
HEAR GREG SPEARMAN'S PRESENTATION, WHICH WE ASKED HIM TO DO
FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON HOW THE PURCHASING PROCESS
WORKS.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR COUNCIL.
BUT JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
ONE OF YOU MADE THE COMMENT THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN

OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO WEIGH IN.
MARCIE IS THE EXPERT, NOT ME, BUT THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING,
ALL THE PURCHASING PROCESSES THAT ARE GOVERNED BY STATUTE
AND GOVERNED BY CITY CODE ARE ALL DESIGNED TO KEEP THE
POLITICIANS OUT OF IT AND TO KEEP THE POLITICS OUT OF IT.
REALLY, THE WHOLE DESIGN OF THE PROCESS IS TO NOT HAVE THE
PARTIES WEIGHING IN.
SO TO MAKE IT AS FAIR AS POSSIBLE.
THERE WERE COMMENTS MADE ABOUT SINGLE BIDS OR WHERE WE ONLY
GET ONE BIDDER, KEEP IN MIND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE
CITY CAN AVOID, LIKE HAVING INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS, BONDING
REQUIREMENTS, WHATEVER, IS GOING TO CUT SOME PEOPLE OUT.
ALSO, EVERY TIME WE ADD THINGS TO OUR CODE LIKE EBO, SMALL
BUSINESS, PREFERENCE FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES, APPRENTICESHIP
REQUIREMENTS, HIRING FORMER IMPRISONED PEOPLE.
SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OVER THE YEARS,
KIND OF THE SOCIAL JUSTICE THINGS THAT WE ADD INTO OUR
CONTRACTING PROCESS, UNFORTUNATELY, ONE OF THE SIDE EFFECTS
OF THAT IS IT CAN SHRINK THE POOL OF PEOPLE WHO THEN WANT TO
CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.
IT'S AN INEVITABLY.
WE HAVE TO WEIGH THE PROS AND CONS OF ALL OF THAT.
I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL.
I JUST WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE OF THAT.
AND THEN THERE WAS ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE MAYOR RECUSING

HERSELF.
AGAIN, THE MAYOR IS NOT INVOLVED IN THESE PROCESSES.
UNTIL AFTER AN RFP OR RFQ OR CCNA RANKINGS ARE GIVEN TO HER,
IN THAT CASE MY UNDERSTANDING IS SHE MAKES THE FINAL
SELECTION IN THAT CCNA WORLD, WHICH IS LIMITED TO I BELIEVE
ARCHITECTS, LAWYERS, ENGINEERS AND ONE OTHER KIND OF
CONTRACT.
BUT BASICALLY, AGAIN, SHE DOESN'T GET TO PUT HER FINGER ON
THE THUMB DURING THE PROCESS EITHER.
AGAIN, ALL THESE IN-GOVERNMENT WORLD THAT THE PURCHASING AND
RFP, RFQ PROCESSES ARE PARTICULARLY DESIGNED THAT WAY TO
KEEP THE POLITICIANS OUT OF IT, TO KEEP THE ELECTED
OFFICIALS OUT OF IT, TO KEEP ANYONE FROM PLAYING FAVORITES.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THOSE GENERAL COMMENTS.
BUT I DO THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AT SOME POINT IN
TIME TO SCHEDULE A WORKSHOP ITEM JUST TO GIVE EVERYONE AN
OVERVIEW OF HOW THESE PROCESSES WORK.
SO YOU ALL HEAR ABOUT IT AFTER THE FACT.
IT'S GOOD TO KNOW HOW THE PROCESS WORKS FOR ALL OF US.
2:23:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:23:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST IF WE DO THAT, MY REQUEST WOULD BE THAT
WE NOT GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS OF HOW THE PROCESS WORKS,
JUST IF WE COULD FOCUS ON HOW IT'S OPEN AND COMPETITIVE AND
FAIR AND TRANSPARENT.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC REALLY CARES ABOUT.

AND THEN IF YOU HAVE PART B, WHICH IS GOING INTO THE
MINUTIA, THEN WHOEVER WANTS TO OPT IN CAN.
YOU MENTIONED HAVING MR. SPEARMAN COME, AFTER I FIRST RAISED
QUESTIONS FOUR YEARS AGO ABOUT PURCHASING, HE BROUGHT ME
INTO HIS DEPARTMENT RIGHT AWAY.
HE SAID, OKAY, TELL ME THE CONCERNS YOU HAVE.
I WENT THROUGH ALL THE CASES PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN ME OVER THE
PRIOR YEARS, AND ALL OF THEM WERE IN EITHER CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION OR REAL ESTATE.
AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T JUST LOOK AT
PURCHASING THAT WE ALSO LOOK AT CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
2:24:01PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN:
NO, IN FACT, I THINK MOST OF THE PROJECTS
THAT THE COUNCIL TENDS TO CARE ABOUT ARE IN THAT CAD WORLD.
BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE BIG-TICKET CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, THEY
ARE IN THE CAD WORLD AND NOT THE PURCHASING WORLD.
IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO REALIZE AND I THINK THAT IS THE TYPE
OF THING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AGAIN FOR ALL OF COUNCIL, TO
JUST KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHO DOES WHAT AND HOW DIFFERENT
THINGS ARE DONE.
ONE FINAL THING THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT MARTY MENTIONED IS
THAT ONE THING TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT ONCE A REQUEST FOR
PROPOSAL OR REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS IS ISSUED AND, AGAIN,
THIS IS STATUTORILY REQUIRED, YOU HAVE WHAT IS CALLED THE
CONE OF SILENCE, WHICH UNLIKE THE CONE OF SILENCE THAT THE
TWO OF US WHO ARE OLD ENOUGH REMEMBER GET SMART WOULD

REMEMBER, WHICH WAS A JOKE, IT IS A VERY, VERY, VERY SERIOUS
THING, AND IF ANY BIDDER OR PERSON SUBMITTING A PROPOSAL
VIOLATES IT, THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY DISQUALIFIED.
THE WAY THAT THE CONE OF SILENCE WORKS AND MARCIE CAN
CORRECT ME IF I'M SAYING IT WRONG, ONCE IT'S IN VOTE, THE
BIDDER, THE COMPANIES SEEKING THE WORK ARE GIVEN ONE POINT
OF CONTACT AT THE CITY THAT THEY CAN TALK TO, AND THEY CAN
TALK TO NO ONE ELSE.
FOR INSTANCE, IF A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WERE TO TALK TO A
BIDDER ABOUT THEIR PROPOSAL, THAT COULD DISQUALIFY THAT
BIDDER.
IT'S VERY SERIOUS, AND WE NEED TO, YES, WE WANT
TRANSPARENCY, BUT THERE IS ALSO A PERIOD DURING WHICH YOU
CAN'T VIOLATE THAT CONE OF SILENCE.
2:25:44PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST TO FINISH AND ON THAT POINT, I THINK
MAYBE MARCIE AND MARTY CAN HELP US WITH SOME ADVICE BEFORE
ALSO.
NOT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE NEED TO BE PARTICULARLY CAREFUL ALSO
ABOUT PEOPLE THAT APPROACH US IN ADVANCE OF AN RFP.
WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER WHO IS CHOSEN.
BUT WHEN ANYBODY TRIES TO APPROACH ME AND SAYS THERE IS AN
RFP COMING UP, EVEN IF IT'S NOT FILED, I SAY I DON'T WANT TO
TALK ABOUT IT.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR MAYOR, BUT IF A MAYOR
HAS, FOR EXAMPLE, A FAMILY MEMBER INVOLVED WITH A COMPANY

WHO IS GETTING A CONTRACT, EVEN IF THE MAYOR IS NOT ON THE
SELECTION COMMITTEE, I THINK THAT A MAYOR -- I THINK THERE
SHOULD BE A PROCESS FOR A MAYOR TO RECUSE THEMSELVES BECAUSE
IF THEY END UP SIGNING THE DOCUMENTS AND HOLDING A PRESS
CONFERENCE ON IT, IT CREATES A LOT OF QUESTIONS FOR US AND
THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT WOULD BE BETTER IF A MAYOR SAID, HEY, I'VE GOT A
FAMILY MEMBER THAT WORKS THERE AND AS A RESULT OF THAT I'M
GOING TO STEP BACK AND NOT PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT AND LET CHIEF OF
STAFF OR THE CHAIR OF THE CITY COUNCIL OR SOMEBODY DO IT.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
2:26:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARCIE, IF YOU CAN, FOLLOW UP.
YOU RAISED A VERY GOOD POINT.
IT'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON.
IT'S NOT JUST ONE CONTACT PERSON.
BUT THERE IS ALSO THE LEGAL CONTACT PERSON.
2:27:06PM >>MARCELLA HAMILTON:
RIGHT, ACCORDING TO OUR ORDINANCE, IT
CAN BE WHOEVER THE SOLICITING DEPARTMENT IS, CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION, PURCHASING, THE DIRECTOR, LEGAL, OR WHOEVER
THE PARTICULAR FACILITATOR IS WITHIN THE DOCUMENT, THE
SOLICITATION ITSELF.
I THINK ONE OTHER THING ABOUT OPEN AND FAIR, ALL OF THESE
MEETINGS, THE PRE-PROPOSAL CONFERENCES, THE PRESENTATIONS

FOR CCNA, THEY ARE ALL OPEN MEETINGS, AND THEY ARE NOTICED.
ANYONE CAN ATTEND THOSE.
2:27:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WITH REGARD TO TRANSPARENCY, MAYBE THAT'S
ONE THING THAT WE CAN WORK ON WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO
IMPROVE THE WEBSITE TO MAKE SUCH THINGS EASIER TO ACCESS AND
HAVE THEM GROUPED TOGETHER SO THAT THE MESSAGE I HEAR IS
WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO SEE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IS A PROCESS
WHERE EVERYTHING IS OPEN, COMPETITIVE, FAIR, AND
TRANSPARENT.
AND I'M GLAD MARCIE MENTIONED, BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO
MENTION AS WELL, THE FACT THAT THE COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND
COMMITTEE RANKINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
2:28:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:28:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALONG THE PROCESS OF TRANSPARENCY AND
GETTING THE MEETINGS OUT, DON'T THAT COMMITTEE GRADE ALL THE
DIFFERENT COMPANIES, BY POINTS AND AT THE END THEY SHOW YOU
THE SCORE OF EVERY ONE.
2:28:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MARCIE CAN SPEAK ABOUT THE COMMITTEE
RANKINGS.
2:28:31PM >>MARCELLA HAMILTON:
THE COMMITTEE RANKINGS, THEY ARE
AVAILABLE IN THE DOCUMENTATION.
PEOPLE DO PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS FOR THOSE.
THE RANKINGS ARE AVAILABLE.
AND WHOEVER IS TOP RANKED, THEY ARE THE FIRST SELECTION TO
SEND TO THE MAYOR.

USUALLY FOR THE PRESENTATIONS, THERE IS A RANKING AND THEN
PRESENTATIONS.
THIS IS FOR CCNA.
THERE ARE PRESENTATIONS, AND DEPENDING UPON WHAT THE
RANKINGS ARE, AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS, THEY'LL HAVE THREE
THAT THEY WILL LIST TO GO TO THE MAYOR AND USUALLY IT IS THE
FIRST RANKING THAT SHE WILL SAY GO FORWARD AND NEGOTIATE A
CONTRACT.
2:29:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AND, BY THE WAY, COUNCIL HAS TAKEN ACTION
AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS COMING BACK TO COUNCIL AGAIN
WITH THAT $20 MILLION THRESHOLD REQUIRING IT TO APPEAR ON
THE AGENDA TO A MEETING PRIOR TO WHEN COUNCIL HAS TO VOTE ON
IT.
I THINK THAT ALSO GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY.
AS I RECALL IN THE PAST, AND I'M ACTING FROM MY MEMORY, BUT
I BELIEVE THERE WAS A TIME THAT COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL IN
THE BACKUP DID HAVE MORE MATERIAL IN THE BACKUP WITH REGARD
TO CONTRACTS.
FOR INSTANCE, THE RANKINGS, THE SCORING SHEETS.
I DON'T KNOW -- AT SOME POINT I RECALL SEEING THOSE.
EVEN WITH REAL ESTATE, PREVIOUS COUNCIL MADE THE REQUEST TO
HAVE -- I'M AT A LOSS FOR WORDS -- THE APPRAISAL FOR THE
PROPERTY TO BE INCLUDED IN THE BACKUP BECAUSE WE HAD ONE
PARTICULAR COUNCIL MEMBER AND MADE THE MOTION TO HAVE THE
APPRAISALS BE INCLUDED WHEN THERE WAS A CONTRACT FOR SALE AS

WELL.
THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
I UNDERSTAND THE MESSAGE THAT I HEAR FROM COUNCIL IS THAT
THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A PROCESS.
AGAIN, WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND HAVING IT OPEN.
WITH REGARD TO THAT, PERHAPS THERE ARE WAYS WE CAN IMPROVE
GETTING THAT INFORMATION TO COUNCIL AND GETTING IT TO THE
PUBLIC WILL ASSIST YOU.
THIS IS ALL A VERY GOOD DISCUSSION.
I WILL FOLLOW UP.
2:30:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO
DO ON THIS?
2:30:40PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
THAT'S IT.
HE SAYS HE WILL LOOK INTO IT.
2:30:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
2:30:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
THANK YOU.
INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:30:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE ONE.
I THINK I SAID IT EARLIER BUT DIDN'T PUT IT IN THE PROPER
FORUM.
APRIL 14 CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE MET AND PASSED A
MOTION TO REQUEST THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL INVITE THE
COMMITTEE TO PRESENT TO COUNCIL ON JUNE THE 22nd.
2:31:15PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THE MOTION PASSES.
2:31:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ONE OTHER THING, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
TO THE TWO GENTLEMEN WHO WERE TO MY RIGHT THAT HAVE SERVED
THE CITY FOR FOUR YEARS.
I ENJOYED WORKING WITH BOTH OF YOU AND I LEARNED SOME FROM
YOU AND I HOPE YOU LEARNED SOME FROM US.
REMEMBER MY OLD SAYING, I HAVE NEVER LOST AN ELECTION.
I JUST NEVER GOT ENOUGH VOTES.
SO YOU GO THROUGH LIFE THAT WAY AND YOU NEVER GET MAD AT
YOURSELF.
AND I'VE LOST ELECTIONS.
2:31:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:31:54PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
DID THE POLICE OFFICER LEAVE?
2:32:00PM >> I THINK HE'S STILL OUTSIDE.
NO, HE'S NOT.
HE'S HERE.
2:32:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:
GENTLEMEN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO
AMARE.
LIKE TO GIVE HIM A COMMENDATION, AMARE ELMORE.
NEXT WEEK WILL BE HIS LAST DAY AT CITY COUNCIL.
HE WILL BE RETIRING.
I KNOW WHAT THAT DAY FEELS LIKE WHEN IT GETS NEAR.

I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU WAKE UP THE NEXT MORNING
THINKING YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO WORK, WHERE IS MY CAR, MY
BADGE, AND MY GUN.
SO I KNOW WHAT THAT FEELING IS LIKE.
IT'S A GREAT FEELING.
FOR ME, WHAT YOU'VE DONE HERE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT RECOGNIZED IN A PROPER WAY AND GET
YOU A COMMENDATION FOR NEXT WEEK.
IT'S WELL DESERVED.
YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR US.
AGAIN, RETIRING, SERVED SINCE MAY 2000.
23 YEARS OF SERVICE, 17 YEARS ON THE S.W.A.T. TEAM AND TO BE
GIVEN ON APRIL 27, 2023.
2:33:11PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:33:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY IN OPPOSITION?
THE MOTION PASSES.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:33:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOTHING.
2:33:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOTHING.
2:33:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY HAVE STAFF RETURN TO US ON MAY 18th
FOR THOSE -- THE CUP PEOPLE THAT WE HEARD FROM TODAY.
WHAT DOES IT STAND FOR?

2:33:44PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
2:33:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COFFEE UNITING PEOPLE FOR STAFF COME BACK
REPORTING ON HAVING SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO SELL
COFFEE ON CITY PREMISES, MAYBE AT THE COURTYARD, ONCE A
MONTH.
2:33:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
2:34:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU.
2:34:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:34:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THREE QUICK THINGS.
JACK HARRIS HAS BEEN POSTING ONLINE.
HAVE YOU ALL SEEN THIS?
HE'S POSTING THAT HE WANTS A HALL OF FAME.
HE WANTS CITY COUNCIL TO DO SOMETHING.
WALK OF FAME.
2:34:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
HE'S BEEN ASKING FOR THAT FOR YEARS BUT
THERE'S BEEN NO PLACE TO PUT IT.
I RECOMMENDED TO HIM WHEN THE WEST RIVER WALK OPENS UP THAT
WOULD BE PERFECT.
GO AHEAD.
I'M SORRY.

2:34:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE FUN TO INVITE HIM.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S AVAILABLE BUT FUN TO INVITE HIM ON JUNE
1st.
WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE IT, JUST TO PRESENT FOR FIVE MINUTES.
2:34:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECONDED
BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR?
ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
2:34:54PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS WHILE THIS
COUNCIL IS STILL HERE.
TWICE BEFORE I PRESENTED THE TAMPA SCORECARD NUMBERS IN A
TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION.
IT'S TAKEN A COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET THE NEW NUMBERS, BUT IT
WILL BE A NEW COUNCIL, BUT I'D APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO
SPEAK FOR TEN MINUTES, UP TO TEN MINUTES ABOUT THE TAMPA
SCORECARD ON JUNE 22nd.
I WILL BRING -- I MAY BRING A USF ECONOMIST.
2:35:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
2:35:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE LAST THING IS I UNDERSTAND THAT CHUCK
WEBER IS LEAVING.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN HE'S LEAVING EXACTLY.
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD GIVE HIM SOME KIND OF COMMENDATION FOR
HIS YEARS.
2:35:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HE'S GOING TO KISSIMMEE.
HIS WIFE ALSO WORKS IN THE SAME KIND OF BUSINESS, PINELLAS
COUNTY.
THE DRIVE WAS 30, 40 MILES A DAY ROUND TRIP OR 50 MILES
SOMETIMES.
2:36:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I LEFT HIM A NOTE.
I WAS ESPECIALLY TOUGH ON HIM IN THE BEGINNING.
I FOUND IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO HE WAS VERY COLLABORATIVE
AND VERY FOCUSED ON WATER QUALITY AND THE AREAS WE DISAGREED
WITH THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS --
2:36:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
GREAT LOSS.
2:36:24PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT IS THE DATE?
WE CAN'T DO IT NEXT THURSDAY, CAN WE?
2:36:30PM >> MAY 4th.
2:36:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I THINK THE BEGINNING OF MAY.
2:36:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF HE'S NOT AVAILABLE, SOMEBODY CAN GIVE IT
TO HIM REMOTELY.
2:36:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION?
2:36:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.

2:36:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE'RE ADJOURNED.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]

DISCLAIMER:
THIS FILE REPRESENTS AN UNEDITED VERSION OF REALTIME
CAPTIONING WHICH SHOULD NEITHER BE RELIED UPON FOR COMPLETE
ACCURACY NOR USED AS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT.
ANY PERSON WHO NEEDS A VERBATIM TRANSCRIPT OF THE
PROCEEDINGS MAY NEED TO HIRE A COURT REPORTER.