TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, MARCH 16, 2023
9:00 A.M.
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09:01:05AM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:01:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
09:01:08AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS NOW IN SESSION ON THIS DAY, MARCH 16,
09:01:12AM 2023.
09:01:12AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE INVOCATION.
09:01:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING.
09:01:17AM I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE REVEREND CHRISTIAN WOOD UP.
09:01:21AM FATHER CHRIS WAS BORN AND RAISED IN QUEENS, NEW YORK, A
09:01:26AM LIFE-LONG EPISCOPALIAN.
09:01:28AM HE GREW UP GOING TO HIS LOCAL PARISH GRACE CHURCH
09:01:33AM WHITESTONE.
09:01:33AM FATHER CHRIS BEGAN HIS JOURNEY WITH OUR LORD.
09:01:37AM GROWING UP, HE ENJOYED PLAYING BASKETBALL AND ROOTING FOR
09:01:41AM BELOVED NEW YORK METS AND GIANTS.
09:01:43AM ATTENDED JOHN JAY COLLEGE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE AND EARNED
09:01:50AM A BS IN STUDIES, AND WHILE WAITING FOR THE POLICE ACADEMY TO
09:01:55AM CONTINUE, TOOK A FULL-TIME POSITION AS VIDEOGRAPHER AND EDITOR
09:02:01AM AND DURING HIS TIME, FATHER CHRIS, AND HIS NOW WIFE,
09:02:05AM CATHERINE, BEGAN TO DATE.
09:02:07AM MOVED TO ATHENS, GEORGIA AND WORKED FOR THE NEW YORK METS.
09:02:11AM KATE AND CHRIS WERE MARRIED JANUARY 6, 2007 AT THE CHURCH OF
09:02:16AM IN SEATTLE.
09:02:19AM IN 2009, GOD CALLED FATHER CHRIS TO SERVE AS YOUTH MINISTER.
09:02:23AM SENT HIM IN SEMINARY AND EARNED A MASTER'S AFTER
09:02:31AM SEMINARY.
09:02:32AM FATHER CHRIS RETURNED TO REDEEMER AS A PRIEST ON FEBRUARY 1,
09:02:36AM 2022.
09:02:37AM FATHER CHRIS BEGAN THE RECTOR OF ST. JOHN'S PARISH IN TAMPA.
09:02:44AM COMES TO ST. JOHN'S WITH WIFE AND THREE CHILDREN.
09:02:48AM HE LOVES SOFTBALL, GO ON LONG WALKS, AND PLAY BASEBALL
09:02:54AM WITH FRIENDS.
09:02:55AM HE IS HALLOWED AND ADORED THROUGHOUT TAMPA.
09:02:57AM THANK YOU, FATHER CHRIS.
09:02:58AM LET'S STAND AND THEN WE WILL DO THE PLEDGE OF
09:03:04AM ALLEGIANCE.
09:03:04AM >> LET US PRAY.
09:03:08AM HEAVENLY FATHER, IN YOUR WORD, YOU HAVE GIVEN US A VISION OF
09:03:12AM THAT HOLY CITY TO WHICH THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD BRING THEIR
09:03:16AM GLORY.
09:03:16AM YOU HOLD AND VISIT WE PRAY THE CITIES OF THE EARTH, THE
09:03:20AM TIDES OF MUTUAL REGARD FROM OUR CIVIC LIFE.
09:03:23AM SEND US HONEST AND ABLE LEADERS AND ENABLE US TO HAVE
09:03:27AM POVERTY, DEPRESSION PEACE WITH RIGHTEOUSNESS AND JUSTICE
09:03:33AM WITH ORDER AND MEN AND WOMEN WITH DIFFERENT CULTURING FIND
09:03:38AM WITH ONE ANOTHER THE FULFILLMENT OF HUMANITY THROUGH JESUS
09:03:43AM CHRIST OUR LORD, AMEN.
09:03:44AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:04:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL.
09:04:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:04:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:04:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:04:10AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:04:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:04:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:04:13AM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:04:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:04:16AM I WILL ENTERTAIN MOTIONS TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES OF --
09:04:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED --
09:04:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FROM THREE DIFFERENT MEETINGS FEBRUARY 23,
09:04:28AM FEBRUARY 23, EVENING SESSION, AND MARCH 2.
09:04:31AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:04:34AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:04:37AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:04:37AM OPPOSED?
09:04:39AM MOTION PASSES.
09:04:39AM MR. SHELBY.
09:04:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF CITY
09:04:44AM COUNCIL.
09:04:44AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:04:47AM I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO ALLOW THE WAIVER OF THE RULES TO
09:04:53AM ALLOW THE CONTINUED USE OF CMT.
09:04:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:04:57AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:04:59AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:05:00AM AGAINST?
09:05:00AM MOTION PASSES.
09:05:02AM CAN WE HAVE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA?
09:05:06AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SO MOVED.
09:05:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
09:05:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE GOT OUR CHIEF UP HERE.
09:05:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: LET HIM GO FIRST.
09:05:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:05:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY ON 13 AND 14 WE UPDATED OUR
09:05:24AM RULES A FEW WEEKS AGO ANYTHING REGARDING PURE NEEDS TO SAY
09:05:28AM PURE/WASTEWATER OR AUTOMATICALLY GETS CONTINUED FOR 30 DAYS.
09:05:32AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE 13 AND 14 TO 30
09:05:36AM DAYS TO WHATEVER THE NEXT MEETING IS.
09:05:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY BOTH SAY "PURE."
09:05:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: HAS TO SAY "PURE/WASTEWATER REUSE."
09:05:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:05:51AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES TO CONTINUE ITEMS 13 AND 14 FOR
09:05:59AM 30 DAYS.
09:05:59AM DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON?
09:06:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO?
09:06:04AM HANG ON A SECOND.
09:06:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: APRIL 20.
09:06:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: APRIL 20.
09:06:22AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE 12 --
09:06:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S WHY -- HOW ABOUT MAY 4.
09:06:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DID WE ADOPT THE RULES FOR 30 DAYS.
09:06:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PROBLEM IS THE AGENDA IS COMPLETELY FULL
09:06:40AM IN 30 DAYS.
09:06:40AM THE NEXT ONE WITH NO FULL AGENDA IS MAY 4.
09:06:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BUT OUR ADOPTED RULES ARE FOR 30 DAYS?
09:06:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:06:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGAIN, A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:06:56AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:06:57AM HEAR FROM STAFF, PLEASE.
09:06:59AM CHIEF BENNETT.
09:07:00AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF
09:07:04AM OF STAFF.
09:07:04AM IN TALKING WITH STAFF THAT WORKS ON THESE -- THESE MOTIONS,
09:07:07AM THERE IS ONLY ONE SIMPLE REQUEST IS THAT IF THE MOTION CAN
09:07:12AM BE CONFIGURED THAT WAY SO IT HAS BOTH THOSE TERMS IN IT, I
09:07:16AM THINK STAFF, FROM WHAT I AM HEARING FEEDBACK AGREES THAT
09:07:20AM THOSE TWO ITEMS SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC.
09:07:23AM JUST THAT WE DON'T GET TO CONTROL HOW THE MOTION REACHES THE
09:07:26AM AGENDA.
09:07:27AM SO WE CAN MAKE SURE ON THE AGENDA TO REQUEST BOTH OF THOSE
09:07:31AM ITEMS.
09:07:31AM AND THEN -- THEN THE DOCUMENTS SUBSEQUENT TO THAT IS MY
09:07:35AM UNDERSTANDING THAT STAFF WILL MAKE SURE THEY COMPLY WITH
09:07:37AM THAT.
09:07:37AM SO JUST, AGAIN, A WORKING THING REQUEST.
09:07:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:07:43AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:07:44AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:07:47AM OPPOSED?
09:07:48AM MOTION PASSES.
09:07:49AM CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:07:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, THAT DATE SO THE ABOUT PUBLIC IS
09:07:52AM AWARE.
09:07:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: MAY 4.
09:07:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY 4 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:07:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF, LET'S GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
09:08:00AM >>JOHN BENNETT: UNDER ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
09:08:02AM THERE ORIGINALLY WAS NO UPDATE BUT ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY
09:08:07AM HARVEY HAS TO REQUEST A RECOMMENDED MOTION FOR COUNCIL TO
09:08:10AM APPROVE A SHADE MEETING FOR AN UPCOMING LITIGATION ITEM, I
09:08:14AM BELIEVE.
09:08:14AM SO THAT WILL BE ON ITEM 3 IF THAT IS AGREEABLE.
09:08:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH CONSENT OF COUNCIL, IS THAT AGREEABLE?
09:08:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT CAN WE -- MR. CHAIR.
09:08:29AM THERE IS ANOTHER WORD FOR IT.
09:08:30AM I DON'T -- I DON'T LIKE THE WORD YOU JUST USED.
09:08:36AM >>JOHN BENNETT: WHAT I HEAR FROM -- I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT THE
09:08:38AM WORD I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN GIVEN.
09:08:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: IT IS A CLOSED SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF
09:08:46AM DISCUSSING A CONFIDENTIAL LEGAL MATTER SO IT WON'T FURTHER
09:08:49AM PUT THE CITY IN JEOPARDY OF -- OF FURTHER POTENTIAL LAWSUIT
09:08:55AM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, RIGHT.
09:08:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHY -- WE WILL ADDRESS THIS WHEN THE ITEM
09:09:00AM COMES UP.
09:09:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS BECAUSE CONCERN
09:09:03AM ABOUT -- ABOUT NOT -- NOT DISCUSSING THINGS IN THE PUBLIC.
09:09:07AM AND WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THE PUBLIC WANTS TRANSPARENCY.
09:09:10AM THERE ARE VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS WHERE -- IT MAKES SENSE TO
09:09:16AM HAVE AT LEAST A CLOSED-DOOR SESSION TO DISCUSS SOMETHING
09:09:19AM THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME PUBLIC.
09:09:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:09:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
09:09:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.
09:09:26AM THIS IS A -- A LEGISLATIVE STATUTORY EXCEPTION TO THE PUBLIC
09:09:31AM MEETINGS LAW, BUT THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED WITH MR. HARVEY
09:09:35AM WHEN THE TIME COMES, PLEASE.
09:09:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S KNOWLEDGE, WHEN -- WE
09:09:40AM ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO MEET IN PRIVATE.
09:09:43AM WE ARE SUPPOSED TO MEET IN WHAT IS CALLED "THE SUNSHINE."
09:09:47AM WHEN THE COUNCIL DOES HAVE TO MEET WHERE THERE IS NO
09:09:50AM RECORDINGS OF THE MEETING TAKEN, THAT IS KNOWN AS "THE
09:09:54AM SHADE."
09:09:54AM SIMPLE VERBIAGE.
09:09:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, WHEN THE TIME COMES, THERE WILL
09:09:59AM BE -- MR. HARVEY, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THIS NOW, BUT
09:10:04AM JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CLARITY, EVERY MEETING IS SUBJECT TO
09:10:08AM SUNSHINE WITH CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
09:10:09AM THERE WILL BE A COURT REPORTER PRESENT.
09:10:11AM THIS MEETING WILL BE TRANSCRIBED AND ANNOUNCED AT THE TIME
09:10:15AM PER STATUTE BY MR. HARVEY AND ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.
09:10:19AM THANK YOU.
09:10:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
09:10:20AM LET'S MOVE ON, CHIEF.
09:10:22AM >>JOHN BENNETT: NUMBER 4 IS A MEMO AND REQUIRES A VOTE, AND
09:10:28AM STAFF WILL BE PRESENT FOR THAT.
09:10:29AM STAFF HAS A RECOMMENDATION WORKING IN CONCERT WITH CITY
09:10:35AM COUNCIL ON NUMBER 5, DUE TO THE $77.6 MILLION ITEM.
09:10:40AM WE ARE AWARE CLEARLY -- THE PUBLIC IS AWARE THAT THERE IS A
09:10:44AM MOTION THAT IS SUPPOSED TO COME FORWARD IN THE COUNCIL OF A
09:10:48AM WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK OF A $20 MILLION THRESHOLD HAVING TWO
09:10:51AM MEETINGS.
09:10:52AM AND SO WE WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR,
09:10:57AM ERIC WEISS IS HERE.
09:10:59AM HE SUBMITTED A MEMO.
09:11:02AM HE HAS BRIEFED JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY IN THE NORMAL BRIEFING
09:11:05AM CHANNELS, BUT WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT AND HONOR THE FACT
09:11:08AM THAT THAT MOTION IS ONLY A WEEK AWAY.
09:11:11AM SO IF IT IS COUNCIL'S WISHES TO HEAR THIS TWICE, STAFF IS
09:11:14AM AMENABLE TO THAT.
09:11:15AM SO TODAY, MR. WEISS IS AVAILABLE TO DO A QUICK PRESENTATION,
09:11:21AM AND THEN WE CAN TAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM COUNCIL AND COME
09:11:24AM BACK AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING AND THAT HAS BEEN OKAYED BY
09:11:28AM JEAN DUNCAN, THE ADMINISTRATOR AND THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR
09:11:32AM IN FAIRNESS TO THE UPCOMING MOTION THAT IS ONLY A WEEK OUT.
09:11:35AM SO WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
09:11:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:11:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR
09:11:44AM PROPOSING THAT AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HEAR
09:11:46AM THIS -- HEAR THE PRESENTATION TODAY BUT TO BRING THIS BACK
09:11:48AM ON -- WHAT -- I AM TRYING TO LOOK AT THE CALENDAR.
09:11:52AM WHAT IS TWO WEEKS?
09:11:56AM >>JOHN BENNETT: SHOULD BE THE FIRST WEEK IN APRIL -- FIRST
09:11:58AM FULL MEETING IN APRIL.
09:11:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: APRIL 6.
09:12:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD BE A SHORT DISCUSSION, BUT WHAT THAT
09:12:05AM DOES AND THE MOTION COMING UP NEXT WEEK DOES, GIVES THE
09:12:08AM ABOUT PUBLIC A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN TWICE JUST LIKE LAND USE
09:12:11AM ISSUES.
09:12:12AM IF SOMEONE WANTS TO BUILD A EIGHT-FOOT FENCE, HEAR THAT
09:12:17AM TWICE.
09:12:17AM STARTING NEXT WEEK, HOPEFULLY IF AN ITEM IS OVER $20
09:12:21AM MILLION, IT WILL BE HEARD BY THE PUBLIC TWICE EVEN THOUGH
09:12:24AM NOT A LONG DISCUSSION THE SECOND TIME, GIVES THE PUBLIC TWO
09:12:27AM CHANCES TO WEIGH IN.
09:12:28AM MY MOTION IS TO HEAR IT TODAY, BUT THEN TO HAVE IT COME BACK
09:12:32AM ON APRIL 6.
09:12:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:12:35AM THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID.
09:12:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:12:39AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:12:40AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
09:12:42AM OPPOSED?
09:12:43AM MOTION PASSES.
09:12:45AM >>JOHN BENNETT: COUNCIL, JUST FOR CLARITY, WE EXPECT
09:12:48AM DIRECTOR WEISS TO PRESENT BRIEFLY ON THAT ITEM?
09:12:52AM OKAY, GREAT.
09:12:52AM HE IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
09:12:53AM ITEM 6, OVERS $3 MILLION ITEM.
09:12:58AM IT HAS BEEN MEMOED, BRIEFED, AND STAFF OF IS PREPARED FOR
09:13:02AM THAT.
09:13:02AM REQUIRES A VOTE.
09:13:03AM ITEM 7, STAFF REQUESTED?
09:13:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:13:15AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I CAN'T IMAGINE 8 AND 9 ARE NOT REQUESTED.
09:13:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEY ARE.
09:13:20AM IF I MAY, COUNCIL, WE WILL HEAR THESE AT THE SAME TIME.
09:13:23AM WE ARE ALSO GOING TO HEAR FROM THE FIRE UNION.
09:13:26AM I DO ASK FROM THE REQUEST OF ALL THE PRESENTERS THAT NO
09:13:31AM QUESTIONS BE ASKED UNTIL AFTER THE FULL PRESENTATION BY
09:13:35AM FIRE, POLICE, AND UNIONS.
09:13:37AM THANK YOU.
09:13:38AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
09:13:41AM ITEM 10, A MEMO FOR AN UPDATE.
09:13:44AM DO YOU ASK MR. BHIDE?
09:13:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR --
09:13:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THIS IS YOURS.
09:13:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE CAN JUST DISCUSS IT BRIEFLY AT LEAST
09:13:55AM AND THEN WILL ALSO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT -- IN
09:13:59AM PUBLIC COMMENT, IF THERE IS ANY PUBLIC FEEDBACK.
09:14:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU WANT THAT?
09:14:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:14:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 12.
09:14:11AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:14:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL HAVE COMMENTS AT THE TIME BUT DON'T SEE
09:14:16AM A NEED FOR QUESTIONS.
09:14:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 13 AND 14 HAVE BEEN CONTINUED.
09:14:21AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAVE 15?
09:14:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:14:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 16 IS COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:14:29AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:14:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 17, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:14:34AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
09:14:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, NUMBER 18?
09:14:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM FINE ON THAT.
09:14:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE CAN REMOVE THAT.
09:14:43AM MAKE A MOTION.
09:14:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: MAKE A MOTION FOR -- TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
09:14:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
09:14:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:14:53AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:14:54AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:14:57AM OPPOSED?
09:14:58AM PASSES.
09:14:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY -- IF I CAN, MR.
09:15:02AM CARLSON, AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO MR. CARLSON AND AGENDA
09:15:07AM REVIEW.
09:15:08AM COUNCIL, I AM GOING TO ASK -- I NEED TO MAKE REVISIONS TO
09:15:11AM ADDRESS SOME ISSUES THAT I THINK WILL HAVE TO BE TAKEN UP TO
09:15:15AM MAKE THE ORDINANCE BETTER, AND I KNOW TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE
09:15:18AM AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THIS BE PUT ON NEXT WEEK'S WORKSHOP
09:15:22AM PRESENTED TO COUNCIL.
09:15:23AM I SHOULD HAVE IT ON COUNCIL BETWEEN TOMORROW AT THE LATEST.
09:15:27AM I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE MOTION JUST SO IT IS CLEAR FOR
09:15:30AM THE AGENDA.
09:15:31AM IT WILL BE -- I AM ASKING THAT COUNCIL REQUEST THAT I BRING
09:15:34AM BACK A PROPOSED ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE LEGAL
09:15:37AM REPRESENTATION OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
09:15:39AM AND THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO YOU.
09:15:40AM AND THEN IF COUNCIL WISHES TO GO FORWARD, THEY WILL BE
09:15:45AM PLACED ON FIRST READING OF THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
09:15:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
09:15:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
09:15:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED
09:15:52AM BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:15:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE DIDN'T PICK A DATE.
09:15:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LAST ITEM ON NEXT WEEK'S WORKSHOP.
09:16:00AM MADAM CLERK, I WILL GET YOU THAT LANGUAGE.
09:16:03AM >>CLERK: YES.
09:16:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:16:07AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:16:08AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:16:09AM AYE.
09:16:10AM OPPOSED?
09:16:11AM MOTION PASSES.
09:16:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: A QUICK COMMENT.
09:16:15AM MARTY ON THAT TOPIC, CHIEF OF STAFF GOT ADDITIONAL IDEAS
09:16:19AM FROM TALKING TO OTHER CITIES.
09:16:20AM BESIDES LEGAL, YOU MAY WANT TO TALK TO HIM TOO.
09:16:23AM HE HAS A GOOD IDEA.
09:16:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, I WILL TAKE THAT UP.
09:16:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 20 IS A RESOLUTION.
09:16:30AM 21, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO?
09:16:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL APRIL
09:16:35AM 20, 2023, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
09:16:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:16:42AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:16:43AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:16:44AM OPPOSED?
09:16:45AM MOTION PASSES.
09:16:47AM AND THEN INFORM COUNCILMAN VIERA, 22 IS YOURS.
09:16:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM 22.
09:16:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECONDED BY
09:16:58AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:16:58AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:17:00AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:17:02AM MOTION PASSES.
09:17:03AM ARE WE GOOD, CHIEF?
09:17:08AM >>JOHN BENNETT: 21, 23 AND 24, I BELIEVE.
09:17:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I BELIEVE 23 HAS BEEN ASKED TO CONTINUE TO
09:17:14AM APRIL 20.
09:17:16AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JUST FOR CLARITY FOR THAT TO ALIGN THE TWO
09:17:20AM ITEMS ON THE SAME DAY.
09:17:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
09:17:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
09:17:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAKE A MOTION POSTPONE IT TO APRIL 20.
09:17:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION AND SECOND.
09:17:31AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:17:33AM MOTION PASSES.
09:17:34AM THEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:17:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE TO MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 24,
09:17:39AM FILE NUMBER CM 22-79131 TO MAY 18.
09:17:44AM >> SECOND.
09:17:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:17:47AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:17:50AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:17:51AM OPPOSED?
09:17:52AM ARE WE GOOD, CHIEF?
09:17:54AM >>JOHN BENNETT: YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
09:17:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CEREMONIAL ACTIVITIES.
09:18:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM.
09:18:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
09:18:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:18:06AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:18:08AM MOTION PASSES.
09:18:09AM TAMPA PRIDE IS NOT WITH US TODAY.
09:18:12AM THEY WERE GOING TO RECEIVE A COMMENDATION.
09:18:15AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, THEY WILL COME AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
09:18:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE TO A FUTURE DATE.
09:18:22AM I WILL FORWARD IT.
09:18:23AM >> SECOND.
09:18:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
09:18:26AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:18:28AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:18:29AM OPPOSED?
09:18:30AM MOTION CARRIES.
09:18:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHAIRMAN CITRO, IT IS ALL YOURS.
09:18:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAJOR STOUT, SIR.
09:19:08AM I LOVE THE PARTIES YOU HAD CELEBRATING YOUR RETIREMENT.
09:19:12AM I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE THIS AS LONG AS SHERIFF CRONISTER'S
09:19:19AM SPEECH.
09:19:19AM I'M NOT GETTING POLITICAL.
09:19:21AM THOSE AT THE GARDEN CLUB UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT IS ALL ABOUT.
09:19:25AM YOU HAVE SERVED THE CITIZENS, COUNCILMEMBERS, STAFF,
09:19:31AM AUDIENCE.
09:19:32AM YOU HAVE SERVED THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA FOR 22 YEARS WITH THE
09:19:41AM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:19:42AM MAN.
09:19:43AM MAN.
09:19:43AM MY -- I THANK YOU.
09:19:49AM AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF YOUR PEERS AROUND THE ROOM HERE
09:19:54AM THANK YOU AND THE CITIZENS THANK YOU.
09:19:57AM MAJOR MICHAEL STOUT.
09:20:03AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES MAJOR MICHAEL STOUT TO OUR
09:20:07AM COMMUNITY AND CELEBRATE HIS RETIREMENT AFTER 22 YEARS WITH
09:20:11AM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:20:12AM HIS DEDICATION TO PUBLIC -- TO THE PUBLIC, HIS FELLOW
09:20:15AM OFFICERS HAVE MADE THE CITY A SAFER PLACE MAJOR STOUT, A
09:20:23AM HIGHLY DECORATED OFFICER GOES BEYOND AND ABOVE THE CALL OF
09:20:27AM DUTY.
09:20:28AM EXEMPLIFIES SAFETY TO EVERY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
09:20:32AM THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:20:36AM IT IS AN HONOR THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE CITY COUNCIL TO
09:20:41AM PRESENT MR. MAJOR MICHAEL STOUT WITH THIS COMMENDATION IN
09:20:45AM CELEBRATION OF HIS RETIREMENT AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY
09:20:48AM ON THIS, THE 16th DAY OF MARCH, 2023.
09:20:52AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:20:53AM I APPRECIATE IT.
09:20:54AM [APPLAUSE]
09:21:05AM >> IS THIS ME?
09:21:06AM IS THIS MY TIME?
09:21:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS IS YOUR TIME.
09:21:10AM SOMEONE BACK HERE THAT YOU BETTER INTRODUCE.
09:21:13AM >> I WILL START THERE.
09:21:14AM PART OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE OF THIS THING.
09:21:16AM WE WILL DO THAT PART FIRST.
09:21:18AM MY WIFE, KELLY.
09:21:19AM THESE ARE THREE OF MY SIX BOYS.
09:21:23AM ONE GOT TO SKIP SCHOOL TO BE HERE.
09:21:26AM HE MAY BE REGRETTING THAT, BUT WE WILL SEE.
09:21:30AM OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T DO THIS JOB WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF WHY
09:21:33AM YOU ARE FAMILY AND MY WIFE HAS BEEN AN INCREDIBLE --
09:21:37AM INCREDIBLE SUPPORTER AS MY KIDS THAT HAVE FOREGONE ME NOT
09:21:44AM BEING AT MANY EVENTS OVER THE YEARS.
09:21:46AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL.
09:21:48AM YOU HAVE, BY AND LARGE, VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OBVIOUSLY THE
09:21:53AM DEPARTMENT AND MYSELF.
09:21:54AM I WILL TELL YOU THE SAME THING I SAID AT MY RETIREMENT
09:21:58AM SPEECH, WHICH IS THAT IF I HAD ONE SKILL PICKING GOOD
09:22:03AM OFFICERS TO BE AROUND.
09:22:04AM AND YOU HAVE ALMOST 1,000 OTHER ONES THAT ARE.
09:22:08AM THIS CITY HAS THE BEST POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE NATION.
09:22:13AM MY PROCEDURES AND SISTER FROM FIRE ARE HERE AND I GUESS YOU
09:22:17AM I SHOULD POINT OUT YOU HAVE THE BEST FIRE DEPARTMENT IN THE
09:22:19AM NATION AS WELL AND I WILL POINT OUT I GOT HERE FIRST TO
09:22:22AM CLEAR THE ROOM SO THEY COULD COME IN.
09:22:24AM SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF PUBLIC
09:22:28AM SAFETY.
09:22:30AM YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL SUPPORTERS OF IT BY AND LARGE.
09:22:33AM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:22:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:22:34AM [APPLAUSE]
09:22:39AM ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO.
09:22:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:22:43AM THANK YOU TO WHY YOU ARE FAMILY, ESPECIALLY THE SIX KIDS.
09:22:46AM AND LOOK FORWARD TO WHATEVER YOU ARE GOING TO DO NEXT.
09:22:49AM IF WE CAN BE OF HELP IN WHATEVER THAT IS, PLEASE LET US
09:22:53AM KNOW.
09:22:53AM WE WANT TO SUPPORT YOU IN THE FUTURE.
09:22:55AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:22:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE.
09:22:58AM AID PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU LOCALLY IN DISTRICT TWO A LOT
09:23:02AM OF TIMES AND YOU HAD SINCERE AND HAD THE INTEREST OF ALL OF
09:23:05AM THE PUBLIC AT HEART AND BEING A PROTECTOR AND A PERSON THAT
09:23:08AM PLAYS THAT DIVIDING LINE BETWEEN MUCH THE 99% OF PEOPLE.
09:23:13AM 98% OF PEOPLE IN SOCIETY WHO ARE LAW-ABIDING WHO WANT TO DO
09:23:18AM THE RIGHT THING, GO BEYOND THEIR LIVES AND THOSE WHO WILL DO
09:23:24AM HARM TO THAT 98%.
09:23:26AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU
09:23:29AM GUYS STAND FOR.
09:23:30AM THANK YOU.
09:23:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS AND HAPPY RETIREMENT.
09:23:33AM WE HAVE SEEN EACH OTHER A FEW TIMES IN THE LAST WEEK AS YOU
09:23:37AM HAVE BEEN CELEBRATED AND RECOGNIZED.
09:23:39AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY AND BEST OF LUCK
09:23:42AM IN THE FUTURE.
09:23:43AM YES, MA'AM.
09:23:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.
09:23:45AM YOUR RETIREMENT CEREMONY WAS BEAUTIFUL, AND I LOVED YOUR
09:23:49AM STORIES.
09:23:49AM GOT A LOT OF REALLY GOOD BACK GROUND AND HISTORY.
09:23:52AM WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND GLAD
09:23:55AM YOU ARE NOT GOING TOO FAR AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
09:24:00AM WORK AGAIN WITH SOME FORMER COLLEAGUES.
09:24:04AM CONGRATULATIONS AND ENJOY -- ENJOY THIS TIME WITH YOUR
09:24:08AM FAMILY.
09:24:09AM >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:24:11AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CONGRATULATIONS, MIKE.
09:24:13AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:24:14AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME.
09:24:16AM GO AND ENJOY YOURSELVES.
09:24:18AM SEE YA.
09:24:19AM >> APPRECIATE IT.
09:24:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAJOR STOUT, CONGRATULATIONS.
09:24:24AM 22 YEARS SEEMS LIKE A LONG TIME, BUT YOU LOOK BACK AND TIME
09:24:29AM REALLY FLEW BY.
09:24:30AM I REMEMBER TAKING A COURSE OF CRIMINOLOGY FROM SHERIFF , HE
09:24:36AM SAID YOU CAN'T THINK OF YOURSELF IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
09:24:38AM AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE TO THINK LIKE A
09:24:42AM CITIZEN AND KNOW HOW THE CRIMINALS THINKS TO CATCH THEM.
09:24:44AM IMCUMBENT.
09:24:48AM RETIREMENT IS JUST A WORD TAMPA MEANS YOU WILL WORK
09:24:52AM SOMEWHERE ELSE AT THE HOUSE PICKING UP LEAVES, DOING
09:24:55AM PAINTING, PLUMBING OR ELECTRICAL WORK.
09:24:57AM IN YOUR CASE, THE EXPERTISE YOU HAVE FLESHED IN YOURSELF AND
09:25:00AM TAUGHT OTHERS MEANS TO ME THAT YOU WILL NOT BE RETIRING SO
09:25:04AM LONG.
09:25:05AM JUST FOR A DAY OR TWO.
09:25:06AM SO WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE CITIZENS.
09:25:11AM 22 YEARS IS A LONG TIME STUDY THE UPS AND DOWNS OF ANY
09:25:19AM DEPARTMENT AND ANY CITY OR LARGER THAT INDIVIDUALS LIKE
09:25:22AM YOURSELF, THE COLLEAGUES AROUND YOU, THOUSAND OR MORE THAT
09:25:26AM YOU MENTIONED ARE THE ONES THAT KEEP THE CITY GOING AT A
09:25:28AM RATE THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AND CONTINUE DOING EVERY DAY OF
09:25:33AM YOUR LIFE TO SAVE LIVES ON BOTH SIDES.
09:25:35AM AND IT IS INCUMBENT UPON YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY WHAT THEY
09:25:38AM SACRIFICED FOR 22 YEARS TO SAY THAT, MAN, I REALLY ENJOYED
09:25:42AM IT, BUT I ALSO SACRIFICED.
09:25:45AM WITH THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANKS TO YOU AND THE
09:25:48AM DEPARTMENT AND THE THOUSANDS OF OFFICERS THAT WORK WITH YOU.
09:25:50AM GOD BLESS YOU AND HAVE A GOOD TIME IN RETIREMENT AND GO TO
09:25:52AM WORK TOMORROW.
09:25:53AM >> THANK YOU, APPRECIATE IT.
09:25:55AM >> NOW I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE -- SORRY, OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T
09:26:03AM MENTION -- I REALIZED THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS HIM.
09:26:05AM OBVIOUSLY, I MENTIONED MY WIFE AND MY KIDS.
09:26:07AM AND I ALSO REALLY SHOULD MENTION MY FATHER AND MOTHER ARE
09:26:11AM HERE.
09:26:11AM AND OBVIOUSLY MY FATHER SERVED A VERY LONG TIME.
09:26:14AM AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THIS CHAMBER LIKE THESE UNION
09:26:18AM PRESIDENTS ARE GOING TO DO TODAY.
09:26:20AM SO GREG STOUT AND LINDA STOUT HAVE OBVIOUSLY -- I HAD BIG
09:26:24AM SHOES TO FOLLOW IN AND GREAT ROLE MODEL.
09:26:30AM I AM VERY LUCKY AND, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR
09:26:33AM TIME.
09:26:33AM [APPLAUSE]
09:26:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
09:26:36AM [APPLAUSE]
09:27:05AM ALL RIGHT, AT THIS TIME WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:27:08AM ANYONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON NIP ITEM ON THE AGENDA YOU
09:27:12AM HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:27:12AM AND WHEN YOU DO APPROACH THE LECTERN, PLEASE STATE YOUR
09:27:16AM NAME.
09:27:16AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD WITH PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE
09:28:05AM APPROACH THE LECTERN AND STATE YOUR NAME.
09:28:07AM PUBLIC COMMENT, ANYBODY?
09:28:17AM YES, SIR.
09:28:17AM >> JASON MARLOW, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:28:18AM SOUTH SEMINOLE HEIGHTS RESIDENT SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER 7.
09:28:25AM I WANT TO ISSUE A PUBLIC COMPLAINT OF THE PRODUCTION OF THE
09:28:28AM NEVER-ENDING STORY WE IS THE BUILDING OF MY STREET WITHOUT
09:28:31AM THE COMPLETE FLYING DRAGON.
09:28:33AM FOR SEVEN MONTHS, THEY HAVE BEEN WORK ON MY STREET SINCE
09:28:36AM ABOUT OCTOBER.
09:28:37AM IT HAS ABOUT NEVER-ENDING.
09:28:39AM WHEN DO I GET ACCESS TO MY DRIVEWAY.
09:28:42AM WHEN IS THE WORK COMMUNICATED TO ME IN A THOUGHTFUL WAY,
09:28:45AM WHEN I HAVE ACCESS TO MY STREET.
09:28:47AM WHEN I CAN USE MY DRIVEWAY.
09:28:49AM I FIND TRASH IN MY YARD, AND YESTERDAY, I FIND OUT SAND IN MY
09:28:54AM WATER LINE.
09:28:54AM MY WHOLE STREET IS LIKE AN EPISODE OF "THE MAGIC SCHOOL
09:28:59AM BUS."
09:29:00AM I HOPE THAT SOMEBODY WILL WORK WITH ME TO GET THIS RESOLVED,
09:29:03AM I AM SURE NOT JUST ME BUT OTHER PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
09:29:07AM HAVING STAND IN THEIR WATER LINE.
09:29:10AM NOT FIXING THEIR FAUCET AND SEEING SAND COME OUT.
09:29:15AM ALL OF YOU PERSONALLY ARE DOING GOOD WORK.
09:29:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE ON CARACAS STREET?
09:29:21AM >> CORRECT.
09:29:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM NELSON
09:29:24AM CONSTRUCTION AND MAKE SURE THEY APRIL DRESS IT.
09:29:28AM MUCH.
09:29:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:29:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF THE GENTLEMAN FROM NELSON CAN RAISE YOUR
09:29:33AM HAND SO Y'ALL MAYBE CAN CHAT OUTSIDE BEFORE ALL THIS, BUT WE
09:29:38AM WILL 100% ADDRESS THAT.
09:29:39AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:29:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEXT, PLEASE.
09:29:46AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:29:53AM I WANT TO SAY YOU HAVE TO STAY ABREAST OF EVERYTHING GOING
09:29:56AM ON.
09:29:57AM UHURU, MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
09:30:02AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE NEED TO THINK OF OUR FREEDOM FROM THE
09:30:05AM TIME WE WAKE UP, GO TO SLEEP, WE SHOULD BE THINKING OF OUR
09:30:09AM FREEDOM AND TAKE OUR FREEDOM SERIOUSLY.
09:30:11AM WHITE PEOPLE TAKE THEIR FREEDOM SERIOUSLY, 1776, WHITE
09:30:16AM PEOPLE TOOK THAT FREEDOM SERIOUSLY AND WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE
09:30:20AM HAVE TO TAKE OUR FREEDOM SERIOUSLY.
09:30:23AM EVERYTHING WE DO WE NEED TO CONNECT IT WHEN WE LOST OUR FREE
09:30:25AM HE COME TO 623 YEARS AGO AND EVERYTHING WE DO, WE HAVE TO
09:30:29AM CONNECT IT TO REPARATIONS.
09:30:30AM MUST BE PAID TO US.
09:30:32AM REPARATIONS MUST BE PAID TO US.
09:30:34AM NO IFs, ANDs OR BUTs.
09:30:38AM WE WILL NOT LET THIS CITY COUNCIL DEAL WITH BILLION DOLLARS
09:30:41AM BUDGETS YEAR AFTER YEAR AND NOTION COMING TO THE 'HOOD.
09:30:45AM AIN'T NOTHING COMING TO BLACK ABOUT PEOPLE.
09:30:47AM ABSOLUTELY NOTHING COMING TO BLACK PEOPLE.
09:30:50AM WE HAVE SEEN WHAT HAPPENED IN STONE AND SAN FRANCISCO.
09:30:53AM WE ARE NOT TALKING OF PENNIES -- I DON'T EVEN WANT TO NAME
09:30:59AM CALL -- NEGROES THAT COME AND TALKING OF SPEED BUMPS AND
09:31:02AM DANCES AND WANT TO DANCE WITH WHITE FOLKS AND ALL THAT.
09:31:05AM SAN FRANCISCO TALKING $5 MILLION PER AFRICAN PERSON.
09:31:08AM PER ELIGIBLE PERSON.
09:31:09AM THOSE ARE REAL NUMBERS.
09:31:11AM THOSE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE TO UNDO THE
09:31:15AM INJUSTICES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE TO US FOR 623 YEARS.
09:31:18AM THE INJUSTICES SUCH AS WHAT HAPPENED RECENTLY IN THE
09:31:26AM ELECTION.
09:31:27AM ABUSED AFRICAN COMMUNITY.
09:31:30AM TOOK AND PUT OUT SOME NASTY FLYERS AND EXPECT, ANTICIPATE
09:31:34AM BLACK PEOPLE TO HAVE SHORT MEMORIES.
09:31:36AM PUT OUT NASTY FLYERS AND GET PEOPLE LIKE REVEREND SCOTT AND
09:31:41AM REVEREND PATTY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT NONSENSE.
09:31:43AM IT IS NONSENSE.
09:31:44AM WE ARE NOT GOING TO FORGET IT.
09:31:47AM IF I CAN TALK OF 623 YEARS, I CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
09:31:50AM YESTERDAY AND THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY, AND I REMEMBER IT
09:31:53AM QUITE WELL.
09:31:54AM THOSE PEOPLE AREN'T WELCOMED OR AREN'T INVITED INSIDE OUR
09:31:58AM COMMUNITY BECAUSE WHEN THEY DO THAT TO ONE OF US, REMEMBER
09:32:01AM DOING IT TO ALL OF US.
09:32:02AM IF WE AGREE WITH THEIR POLITICS OR NOT.
09:32:04AM WE AGREE WITH THEIR SKIN COLOR.
09:32:06AM PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
09:32:09AM THIS CITY DO ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING FOR AFRICAN
09:32:13AM PEOPLE.
09:32:14AM WE TRY TO PUSH IT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, ALL YOU GET IS
09:32:16AM PUSH BACK.
09:32:17AM ALL YOU GET IS PUSH BACK.
09:32:19AM NOTHING MORE AND NOTHING LESS.
09:32:21AM OUR YOUTH HAVE NOTHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO BUT THE STREETS.
09:32:24AM NOTHING.
09:32:25AM COMING UP, WE CAN SMELL OUR SUMMER JOBS.
09:32:29AM WE CAN TASTE OUR SUMMER JOBS WE ARE SO EXCITED THAT WE HAVE
09:32:34AM SOMETHING FORWARD TO LOOK TO.
09:32:35AM ASK ANY AFRICAN PERSON MY AGE OR A LITTLE UNDER.
09:32:39AM WE CAN SMELL AND TASTE OUR SUMMER JOBS.
09:32:42AM WE ARE SO EXCITED TO JUST BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING TO
09:32:45AM CONTRIBUTE TO OUR FAMILIES.
09:32:47AM TO CONTRIBUTE TO OURSELVES.
09:32:49AM TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAYBE HELP IN PURCHASING OUR OWN --
09:32:52AM OUR OWN SCHOOL CLOTHES.
09:32:54AM AND THIS CITY HAS DONE ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING FOR
09:32:58AM AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:32:59AM AND WE NEED SOMETHING DONE.
09:33:01AM PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
09:33:05AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
09:33:13AM ITEM NUMBER 12 AND 16 IS A NO BRAINER, BUT ABSOLUTELY NOT
09:33:19AM ENOUGH RESOURCES THERE TO GET A PROGRAM SUCH AS AN EFFECTIVE
09:33:27AM APPRENTICE PROGRAM.
09:33:29AM YOU LISTEN TO NATIONAL NEWS, THEY WILL TELL US NOT ENOUGH
09:33:34AM SKILLED PEOPLE, YOUNG PEOPLE, TO TAKE ON SOME OF THE JOBS
09:33:37AM FOR THE FUTURE.
09:33:37AM THE JOBS THAT REQUIRE VOCATIONAL TRAINING.
09:33:41AM IT IS NOT THERE.
09:33:44AM ITEM 16, WHEN YOU LOOK INSIDE OUR COMMUNITY, NOT ONLY DO WE
09:33:49AM HAVE A FOOD DESERT, WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.
09:33:51AM A HOUSING CRISIS SUCH AS WE ARE NOW LOOKING ON THE OUTSIDE.
09:33:55AM WE ARE STANDING ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN BECAUSE WE COULD
09:33:59AM NOT AFFORD THE PURCHASE PRICES EVEN WITH THE DOWNPAYMENT
09:34:03AM ASSISTANCE.
09:34:03AM AND IN 2003, PAM -- MAYOR IORIO ALONG WITH THE SCHOOL
09:34:12AM SUPERINTENDENT AND MEMBERS OF THE BANKING INDUSTRY PROMOTED
09:34:16AM A PROGRAM THAT THE MAYOR AT THAT TIME WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT
09:34:19AM AND IT TODAY.
09:34:21AM IT WAS CALLED THE YOUTH CORP -- THE MAYOR'S CORP.
09:34:28AM GAVE THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE OPPORTUNITIES, CELLED DEVELOPMENT SO
09:34:32AM THEY COULD BE THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF THE FUTURE.
09:34:34AM 20 YEARS SINCE IN EAST TAMPA, INSTEAD OF OUR MONIES BEING
09:34:41AM USED AS A SLUSH FUND TO TAKE ON CITY ITEMS TREE TRIMMING,
09:34:49AM LIGHTING, RETENTION POND.
09:34:52AM WE CAN NOT USE THE MONEY TO HELP STABILIZE OUR COMMUNITY.
09:34:59AM ONE THING WE ASKED FOR, WE WANT AN EFFECTIVE PROGRAM SO OUR
09:35:03AM YOUNG PEOPLE WOULDN'T SIMPLY BE PICKING UP PAPER ALL SUMMER.
09:35:06AM WE SAID WE WANT TO INCREASE THE NUMBERS.
09:35:09AM WE WATCHED THIS MUSICAL CHAIR ALL THE TIME OCCURS THROUGH
09:35:13AM THE ADMINISTRATION PRESENTED EVEN WHEN SOME OF THE
09:35:15AM PRESENTERS LOOKED LIKE ME.
09:35:17AM IT HAS BEEN TO NO BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY.
09:35:25AM WE HAVE SUMMER APPROACHING.
09:35:26AM DEAD BODIES IN THE STREET.
09:35:28AM WE HAVE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN OPPORTUNITIES.
09:35:31AM WE WANT AN EFFECTIVE SUMMER PROGRAM TO MIRROR WHAT THE MAYOR
09:35:36AM HAS GOING ON TODAY.
09:35:37AM IF THERE IS RESISTANCE FROM CITY STAFF TO NOT BRING THESE
09:35:43AM YOUNG PEOPLE ON TO SOME TYPE OF MENTORSHIP, BROADEN THE
09:35:48AM SPECTRUM JUST LIKE THEY DID IN 2003 WITH THE MAY I DON'T
09:35:55AM REMEMBER YOUTH CORP AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE
09:35:58AM SUPERINTENDENT UNDERSTOOD THE VALUE OF YOUNG PEOPLE HAVING
09:36:00AM LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT IF ALL OUR CHILDREN CAN SEE JOBS WITH
09:36:06AM NO ADVANCEMENT.
09:36:07AM WE CONTINUE TO HAVE SUCH VIOLENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:36:10AM AND THEN WHEN YOU ALL, THE MAYOR AND YEARS ASKING WHY WE
09:36:14AM DON'T HAVE FULL BLACK LEADERSHIP PARTICIPATION, WE
09:36:18AM UNDERSTAND THAT PRAYER ALONE WILL NOT WORK.
09:36:20AM GET TO WORK, BOARD MEMBERS.
09:36:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:36:25AM >> AILEEN HENDERSON, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
09:36:35AM TODAY, I'M HERE TO REPRESENT MY NOT-FOR-PROFIT THE CEMETERY
09:36:38AM SOCIETY.
09:36:39AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:36:40AM I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE INFORMATION FROM THE IMAGINE 2040
09:36:43AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09:36:44AM LAND USE GOAL 19, PROTECT AND PRESERVE TAMPA'S HISTORICAL
09:36:50AM AND ARCHITECTURAL RESOURCES INCLUDING THE PROTECTION OF
09:36:54AM TAMPA CEMETERIES.
09:36:57AM PRESERVE AND PROTECT CEMETERIES AND UNMARKED.
09:37:02AM I WILL USE LU FOR LAND USE.
09:37:04AM 9.5.1, THE CITY SHOULD PROTECT CITY-OWNED CEMETERIES OF THE
09:37:10AM CITY'S HERITAGE AND MAINTAIN CEMETERIES IN A DIGNIFIED
09:37:15AM MANNER WHILE ENSURING COMMUNITY SAFETY.
09:37:17AM I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN THE CITY
09:37:21AM DID NOT OWN MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:37:23AM THEY FOSTERED THAT CEMETERY AND MAINTAINED IT.
09:37:26AM WHEN ONE FOSTERS A PET AND A CHILD, DO YOU SHIRK
09:37:32AM RESPONSIBILITY OR MAKE SURE THAT PET AND CHILD ENDS UP IN A
09:37:35AM CARING AND LOVING HOME.
09:37:36AM LU POLICY 19.5.3, PROMOTE THE PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION OF
09:37:42AM CEMETERIES AND UNMARKED BURIALS UPON DISCOVERY.
09:37:45AM THUS FAR, OUR RESEARCH WITH THE CEMETERY 10,453 UNMARKED
09:37:54AM GRAVES AT MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:37:56AM LU OBJECTIVE 19.6, RECOGNIZE THAT CITY OF TAMPA CEMETERIES
09:38:02AM ARE A VITAL COMPONENT OF THE CITY'S OPEN SPACE NETWORK.
09:38:06AM LU 19.6.3, PROMOTE NATIONAL AND HISTORIC DESIGNATION
09:38:12AM REGARDING APPLICABLE CRITERIA.
09:38:14AM THE GENERAL PROVISIONS OF THAT PLAN.
09:38:17AM INTENT OF THE LEGISLATURE TO SEE THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
09:38:20AM IS IMPLEMENTED.
09:38:22AM COUNCIL, YOU AS THE SLEDGE I HAVE IT -- YOU AS THE
09:38:26AM LEGISLATURE HAVE LEGISLATIVE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS
09:38:31AM IT PERTAINS TO TAMPA'S HISTORIC CEMETERIES.
09:38:35AM FOUR ALL-WHITE CEMETERIES AND WE WILL BE REASSURED WE HAD BE
09:38:40AM ADDING A FIFTH BLACK CEMETERY WITH THE ONLY BLACK VETERANS
09:38:44AM MONUMENT AND MEMORIAL.
09:38:45AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THE CITY OF
09:38:48AM TAMPA IS IN A POSITION TO ABIDE BY AND FOLLOW THROUGH WITH
09:38:51AM OBJECTIVES, GOALS AND POLICIES AS OUTLINED IN THE IMAGINE
09:38:55AM 2040: COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
09:38:57AM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ADD, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT
09:39:01AM PLAN SOMEBODY CURRENTLY, SO WHEN WE ASSURE THAT CEMETERY,
09:39:05AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, WE HAVE ONE IN PLACE.
09:39:08AM THANK YOU.
09:39:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:39:09AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:39:20AM MY NAME IS NOREEN COPELAND MILLER.
09:39:24AM AND I LIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
09:39:27AM I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO SPEAK -- I WAS SITTING HERE AND
09:39:30AM LOOKING AT THE BUDGET.
09:39:31AM I WAS HOPING TO SEE SOMETHING IN THE PLANS OF DOLLARS
09:39:35AM ALLOCATED FOR MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY
09:39:38AM OF THAT.
09:39:39AM AND I KNOW THAT IT IS BEING CONTINUED.
09:39:41AM I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT AS I SIT HERE IN THIS CHAMBER AND
09:39:45AM LOOKING AROUND AT THE ARTWORK, THE LOVELY ARTWORK, BUT I SEE
09:39:50AM NOTHING THAT REPRESENTS BLACK AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THIS
09:39:54AM CITY.
09:39:54AM SO I AM LIKE -- I KNOW THAT THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON FOR
09:39:59AM GENTRIFICATION, ERASING OUR HISTORY.
09:40:03AM I HOPE THAT WE PUT SOME EFFORT IN MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:40:07AM THIS TIME YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE SOME BLACK
09:40:12AM HISTORY IN THIS CITY THAT THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR.
09:40:14AM WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BEG, BECAUSE THIS SHOULD HAVE NEVER
09:40:18AM HAPPENED.
09:40:18AM THE CEMETERY SHOULD NEVER HAVE GONE INTO FORECLOSURE AND IT
09:40:22AM WAS INTENTIONALLY, IN MY OPINION, AS WE LOOK AROUND IN MY
09:40:27AM CITY THAT I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN.
09:40:29AM I AM HAVING A PROBLEM FINDING WHERE I FIT IN.
09:40:32AM BECAUSE -- AND THERE IS NO DOLLARS IN HERE THAT SAYS
09:40:35AM ANYTHING ABOUT AFRICAN-AMERICAN ANYTHING.
09:40:37AM ALLOCATING DOLLARS FROM WHAT WAS FOUND FROM THE BUDGET WITH
09:40:40AM 9 POLICE DEPARTMENT LAST YEAR.
09:40:42AM NONE -- NOTHING IS STATED IN HERE THAT IS GOING TO BENEFIT
09:40:46AM THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN, THE BLACK FOLKS IN THIS CITY.
09:40:49AM IT IS TRAGIC.
09:40:52AM IT IS DISGRACEFUL, AND I AM REALLY SAD THAT WE DON'T HAVE
09:40:56AM ANY CONSIDERATION WHEN IT COMES TO MONETARY THINGS GOING ON
09:40:59AM IN THIS CITY.
09:41:00AM THE CEMETERY NOW IS -- YOU ARE FIXING IT.
09:41:04AM WHEN?
09:41:06AM I WANTED AN UPDATE THAT THEY LET US KNOW LAST MONTH.
09:41:09AM IT WAS CONTINUED UNTIL MAY.
09:41:11AM HE PURCHASED IT IN JANUARY.
09:41:12AM WHY ARE WE GOING TO WAIT FIVE MONTHS FOR RESOLUTION?
09:41:16AM THIS SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED.
09:41:17AM I KNOW YOU HAVE THE DOLLARS.
09:41:19AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, NOT SAYING CITY COUNCIL, BUT THE CITY OF
09:41:24AM TAMPA, OUR HOPE.
09:41:25AM WE ARE YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND THIS IS THE WAY WE ARE TREATED.
09:41:29AM IT IS NOT FAIR.
09:41:30AM WE SIT AROUND QUIET.
09:41:32AM BUT I AM TIRED.
09:41:33AM AND I THANK GOD FOR THESE FOLKS COMING OUT TO SUPPORT WHAT
09:41:38AM HAS HAPPENED THAT WAS WRONG TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
09:41:40AM PEOPLE IN THIS CITY SOME OF US -- A LOT OF US ARE RETIRING
09:41:46AM AND NOT JUST ALL BLACK.
09:41:47AM A VERY DIVERSE COMMUNITY.
09:41:49AM PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF THE MISTREATMENT OF BLACK FOLKS IN THE
09:41:53AM CITY OF TAMPA.
09:41:53AM WE TALK OF PARADISE?
09:41:56AM IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE PARADISE FOR ME AND I KNOW I AM NOT
09:41:59AM ALONE.
09:41:59AM I ASK AND PLEA THAT YOU DO THE RIGHT THING OF SAVING
09:42:03AM MEMORIAL CEMETERY.
09:42:04AM MAKING IT THE HISTORICAL SITE THAT IT IS.
09:42:07AM DO IT NOW.
09:42:08AM I DON'T WANT TO BE TALKING ABOUT IT SIX YEARS FROM NOW, SIX
09:42:11AM MONTHS FROM NOW.
09:42:12AM THIS COULD BE RESOLVED NOW AND I WOULD THANK THAT OUR GREAT
09:42:17AM LEADERSHIP WILL WANT TO LEAVE A LEGACY IN THIS CITY THAT
09:42:20AM SAYS WE HAVE FOUR WHITE CEMETERIES.
09:42:22AM LET'S MAKE HISTORY AND GET A FIFTH BLACK HISTORICAL
09:42:26AM CEMETERY.
09:42:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
09:42:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:42:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:42:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
09:42:44AM >> WAY TO GET A PICTURE?
09:42:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE HAVE THE OVERHEAD ON, THANK YOU.
09:42:50AM >> I DON'T SEE IT?
09:42:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE GOT IT.
09:42:58AM THANK YOU.
09:42:58AM >> WE CAN'T GET ALL THE PICTURES IN.
09:43:01AM CAN YOU SLIDE IT?
09:43:03AM ROTATE IT?
09:43:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:43:04AM >> OKAY, THESE PICTURES WERE RECENTLY TAKEN AT MEMORIAL PARK
09:43:09AM CEMETERY BY A VERY RELIABLE SOURCE.
09:43:12AM FOR CEMETERIES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT ARE NOT OWNED OR
09:43:17AM CONTROLLED BY A CEMETERY CORPORATION, CHURCH, ASSOCIATION OR
09:43:20AM ORGANIZATION, THE PROPERTY OWNER MUST MAKE A REASONABLE
09:43:23AM EFFORT TO MAINTAIN THE CEMETERY.
09:43:26AM THIS INCLUDES RESETTING AND STRAIGHTENING MONUMENTS.
09:43:30AM LEVELING AND DECIDING THE GROUND, AND CLEANING UP DESTROYING
09:43:39AM PLANTS.
09:43:39AM WEAK VEGETATION.
09:43:40AM MOWING THE LAWN AND CONSTRUCTING AND REPAIRING FENCES.
09:43:44AM FAILURE OF A PROPERTY OWNER TO PERFORM THESE MAINTENANCE
09:43:48AM RESPONSIBILITIES CAN BE PUNISHABLE AS A CLASS C INFRACTION.
09:43:53AM THREE WEEKS AGO, MAYOR CASTOR ASSURED ME IF THE NEW OWNER
09:43:58AM WAS NOT MAINTAINING THE CEMETERY, THE CITY HAD THE RIGHT TO
09:44:01AM STEP IN, MAINTAIN IT AND SEND THIS MAN A BILL.
09:44:04AM HE WANTS TO OWN A CEMETERY.
09:44:06AM LET'S SHOW HIM WHAT IT IS LIKE TO OWN A CEMETERY.
09:44:09AM I CALLED MAYOR CASTOR'S OFFICE FOR THE LAST TWO WEEKS,
09:44:13AM PRACTICALLY ON A DAILY BASIS ASKING WHEN THE CITY IS GOING
09:44:16AM OUT THERE TO ASSESS THE HEADSTONES, THE -- THESE ARE GRAVES
09:44:22AM -- YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE TOP ON THE SECOND AND THIRD OF THE
09:44:25AM TOP ROW, THOSE ARE COVERED GRAVES.
09:44:28AM THE TOP LEFT IS GARBAGE.
09:44:30AM AND IF YOU LOOK FURTHER, YOU WILL SEE BROKEN HEADSTONES.
09:44:39AM YOU'LL SEE LOW-LYING BRANCHES WITHIN 18 INCHES OF
09:44:45AM HEADSTONES, BUT THE SAD THING IS THESE PEOPLE -- MANY OF
09:44:48AM THESE PEOPLE BURIED IN MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY WERE SLAVES.
09:44:52AM AND IN THEIR LIFETIME, THEIR BODIES WERE SOLD TO THE HIGHEST
09:44:56AM BIDDER.
09:44:57AM AND NOW HERE WE ARE AGAIN WITH SOMEONE HOLDING OUR CEMETERY
09:45:01AM HOSTAGE.
09:45:01AM AND THEIR BODIES, AGAIN, ARE BEING HELD OUT FOR THE HIGHEST
09:45:06AM BIDDER.
09:45:07AM THEY ARE BEING DISRESPECTED IN DEATH AS THEY WERE IN LIFE.
09:45:11AM SO I AM ASKING YOU GUYS TO STEP IN, TELL BABY JANE TO STEP
09:45:17AM UP, PUT DOWN THE GREEN DYE OF DYEING THE RIVER.
09:45:21AM STOP CAMPAIGNING FOR HER MOTHER-IN-LAW TO BE ON CITY COUNCIL
09:45:25AM AND TELL HER TO DO THIS.
09:45:27AM THIS IS WHAT NEEDS ATTENTION.
09:45:28AM NOT ST. PATRICK'S DAY PARADE AND ANY OF THE EVENTS SHE GOES
09:45:36AM TO ON A DAILY BASIS.
09:45:40AM I SEE NOTHING OF MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:45:43AM WE ARE TIRED OF FLAILING OUR ARMS.
09:45:46AM WE MADE NOISE ON A LOCAL LEVEL AND A NATIONAL LEVEL.
09:45:51AM IF DATELINE NBC SHOWS UP AT BABY JANE'S OFFICE, I DON'T
09:45:57AM EXPECT HER TO ASK BRAND NEW BECAUSE SHE KNOWS ALL ALONG WHAT
09:46:02AM SHE HAS DONE TO THIS CEMETERY AND WANT HER RESOLVED
09:46:05AM IMMEDIATELY.
09:46:06AM ADRIANA RODRIGUEZ, ADDRESS AVAILABLE UPON REQUEST.
09:46:11AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:46:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:46:17AM EDITH RANDOLPH.
09:46:19AM I AM A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
09:46:22AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:46:26AM I HAVE CONCERNS AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR -- REQUEST FOR
09:46:30AM ACTION.
09:46:31AM I HAVE TWO LOVED ONES AT THE CEMETERY.
09:46:34AM ONE IS MY BROTHER.
09:46:36AM AND HE SERVED IN THE MILITARY.
09:46:40AM FOR US FOR MANY YEARS.
09:46:42AM AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THEY PAID FOR THESE
09:46:48AM SERVICES AT THE CEMETERY AND THE PROPERTY THAT THEY DO NOW
09:46:53AM LIVE WITH.
09:46:54AM THE CEMETERY IS LOCATED IN EAST TAMPA, AND, OF COURSE, WE
09:46:59AM KNOW THE MAJORITY OF BLACK INDIVIDUALS IN THAT COMMUNITY,
09:47:02AM AS WELL AS IN THE CEMETERY, THERE ARE MAJORITY BLACKS WHO
09:47:08AM RESIDE THERE.
09:47:08AM IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO REST IN
09:47:16AM PEACE.
09:47:18AM AND, THEREFORE, WE ARE LOOKING AND ASKING THAT THE CITY
09:47:21AM CONSIDER MAINTAINING IT AND NOT ALLOWING US TO PLAY
09:47:26AM PING-PONG WITH WHOEVER OWNS IT.
09:47:28AM WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME ACTION TAKEN AND WE HOPE THAT YOU
09:47:32AM WILL BE CONSIDERATE, CONCERNED, AND HAVE THE EMPATHY TO DO
09:47:36AM WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THOSE HUMAN BEINGS SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO
09:47:40AM REST IN PEACE.
09:47:41AM AND WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT PEOPLE DO CARE IN TAMPA ABOUT
09:47:46AM THE RESIDENTS AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER -- STRONGLY
09:47:50AM CONSIDER WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS FOR OUR
09:47:58AM COMMUNITIES AND THOSE WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN NEED THAT THEIR
09:48:02AM LOVED ONES WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.
09:48:04AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
09:48:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:48:06AM BOB WHITMORE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE, A CITIZENS
09:48:18AM ACTION GROUP.
09:48:18AM PERHAPS UNCHARACTERISTICALLY BEING A MAN WHO WEARS HIS
09:48:23AM EMOTIONS ON HIS SLEEVE REGARDING MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
09:48:27AM LIKE US ALL TO TAKE A BREATH FOR A MINUTE AND JUST TAKE A
09:48:32AM MOMENT TO LET GO OF PREJUDICE AND ANGER AND CONTEMPT AND
09:48:36AM BLAME.
09:48:37AM FOCUS ON THE NOW AND NEXT TO THE SITUATION.
09:48:41AM AND RECOGNIZE HONESTLY WHAT GOT US HERE AND HOW WE ARE GOING
09:48:44AM TO GET OUT OF THIS.
09:48:45AM THE NOW IS A CEMETERY OF -- A BLACK HISTORIC CEMETERY LEFT
09:48:51AM TO FALL INTO DISREPAIR.
09:48:53AM HONESTLY, SOME OF THE RESPONSIBILITY HAS TO BE PLACED ON THE
09:48:57AM FAMILIES OF RELATIVES REST THERE.
09:48:59AM WE ARE RESPONSIBLE TO CARE FOR THE GLORIES OF OUR DEAD.
09:49:02AM HONESTLY MUCH OF THE BLAME HAS TO BE LAID ON THE PREVIOUS
09:49:06AM OWNERS WHO NO DOUBT WERE TRUSTED WITH THE REMAINS OF THE
09:49:09AM DEAD AND SOMEWHERE, I EXPECT AGREEMENTS SIGNED IN GOOD FAITH
09:49:13AM TO DO JUST THAT.
09:49:13AM OBVIOUSLY THAT ISN'T.
09:49:15AM AND HONESTLY, THE CITY DID STAND UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
09:49:20AM WE -- WE, THE CITY, TOOK CARE OF THE HISTORIC HOLY GROUND
09:49:28AM AND TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, BOTCHED THE PURCHASE.
09:49:30AM WHICH HONESTLY SOMEONE SHOULD LOSE THEIR JOB OVER.
09:49:33AM NOW A MAN WHOSE INTENTIONS ARE UNCLEAR SINCE NOBODY SEEMS TO
09:49:38AM BE ABLE TOO TALK TO HIM OWN THIS PIECE OF NEGLECTED HISTORY,
09:49:43AM HISTORY NEGLECTED BY FAMILIES BURIED THERE, THE COMMUNITY
09:49:45AM THAT SURROUNDS IT, THE PEOPLE WHO OWNED IT, AND ALL OF US
09:49:48AM FOR LETTING THIS HAPPEN.
09:49:50AM I BELIEVE THERE ARE NO VILLAINS IN THIS SCENARIO,
09:49:54AM INCOMPETENCE, NEGLECT, GREED, DESPERATION, APATHY AND A LOT
09:49:59AM OF HUMAN NATURE BUT NO VILLAINS, JUST SADLY PEOPLE DOING
09:50:04AM WHAT PEOPLE DO.
09:50:04AM SO NOW THE NEXT.
09:50:06AM IN THE SPIRIT OF FIXING THE PROBLEM NOT FIXING THE BLAME.
09:50:10AM THAT JUST ISN'T GOING TO HELP RIGHT NOW.
09:50:13AM WITH LIGHTNING SPEED, NOW REALIZING JUST WHAT WE ARE AT RISK
09:50:17AM OF LOSING, THIS HOLY AND HISTORIC SITE NEEDS TO BE PURCHASED
09:50:22AM BY THE CITY AND JOIN THE OTHER FOUR CEMETERIES THAT THIS
09:50:26AM CITY OWNS AS PROTECTED PROPERTY FOREVER.
09:50:28AM ALEX ORTEGA HAS A NUMBER IN HIS HEAD, AND WE SIMPLY NEED TO
09:50:33AM ASK WHAT HE WANTS AND CHALK THAT UP TO MUCH-NEEDED
09:50:36AM REPARATION WITH THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
09:50:39AM ONCE PURCHASED, THE FAMILIES OF THOSE BURIED MUST STEP UP
09:50:43AM AND HELP RESTORE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, ASSISTED BY THE
09:50:47AM CITY AND THE CEMETERY SOCIETY.
09:50:49AM IF THE CITY NEEDS SOMEONE TO PULL THIS EFFORT TOGETHER.
09:50:52AM I WILL.
09:50:53AM I WILL VOLUNTEER.
09:50:54AM JUST BUY THE CEMETERY, AND I PROMISE YOU, I PLEDGE TO YOU
09:50:57AM WITH THE CITY'S HELP WE WILL RESTORE IT AND MAKE IT A
09:51:00AM SHOWPLACE OF HISTORY, A PLACE WHERE ALL OF TAMPA CAN COME
09:51:03AM AND STAND AND CONTEMPLATE THE PAST.
09:51:05AM IDENTIFY THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WERE BURIED THERE.
09:51:08AM SHARE THEIR HISTORY.
09:51:09AM MAKE MEMORIAL PARK A DESTINATION TO BE SEEN AND EXPERIENCED
09:51:12AM BY A CITY HUNGRY TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT OUR BLACK HISTORY
09:51:16AM AND MAKE AMENDS FOR INJUSTICES INFLICTED ON OUR BROTHERS AND
09:51:21AM SISTERS OF COLOR IN A CITY WE ALL CALL HOME.
09:51:23AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:51:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:51:26AM >> HI, GOOD MORNING, NANCY STEVENS, AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT
09:51:38AM PURE.
09:51:38AM TAMPA AND ITS CONTRACTORS SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON SAFE AND
09:51:41AM AFFORDABLE WATER IN TAMPA.
09:51:42AM FOR TAMPA CITIZENS AND ENVIRONMENT NOT ON HOW TO REUSE
09:51:46AM WASTEWATER.
09:51:47AM MEETING TAMPA'S WATER NEEDS SHOULD BE THE GOAL.
09:51:49AM REDUCING CONTAMINANTS IN THE WASTEWATER SHOULD BE THE GOAL.
09:51:53AM REUSING WASTEWATER SHOULD NOT BE A GOAL.
09:51:56AM A TOOL IF NEEDED, BUT ONLY THE LAST RESORT.
09:51:59AM REUSING WASTEWATER IS EXPENSIVE, IMPOSES UNKNOWN RISK TO
09:52:04AM HUMAN AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH.
09:52:06AM JUST THIS WEEK, THE EPA PROPOSED NEW DRINKING WATER
09:52:10AM STANDARDS FOR SIX CONTAMINANTS SETTING MAXIMUM FOR PFAS
09:52:16AM AND PFOA AND HAZARD INDEX FOR OTHER PFAS COMBINED.
09:52:21AM TAKEN DECADES FOR THE EPA TO SET THE ENOUGH DRINKING WATER
09:52:26AM STANDARDS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SET STANDARDS UNLESS THEY CAN
09:52:29AM PROVE THAT THERE IS HARM.
09:52:30AM THIS IS HOW IT HAPPENED FOR PFOA.
09:52:34AM AFTER THE 1951, DUPONT USED PFOA TO MAKE TEFLON AND
09:52:40AM PIPED INTO THE OHIO RIVER WHERE IT ENTERED INTO HAD THE
09:52:44AM DRINKING WATER SUPPLY.
09:52:45AM DUPONT KNEW THAT THERE WAS BLOOD PROBLEMS IN EMPLOYEES AND
09:52:53AM PROBLEMS IN RATS.
09:52:54AM SO CONCERNED INSTRUCTED EMPLOYEES NOT TO WEAR THEIR WORK
09:52:57AM CLOTHES HOME.
09:52:58AM 1998, A FAMILY LIVING NEXT TO A FIELD WHERE DUPONT WAS
09:53:04AM STORING PFOA, HAD DEAD AND DYING COWS AND CALLED A LAWYER
09:53:09AM ROB BILLICK FOR HELP.
09:53:10AM THEY SUES DUPONT IN 1995.
09:53:15AM 2005, DUPONT HAD A SETTLEMENT WITH THE EPA.
09:53:19AM ROB BILLICK CONTINUED.
09:53:21AM HE WOULDN'T LET IT GO AND NO STANDARDS FOR PFOA.
09:53:25AM INITIATED A STUDY OF 30,000 PEOPLE EXPOSE TO PFOA IN THEIR
09:53:32AM DRINKING WATER AND TOOK BLOOD SAMPLES.
09:53:35AM 2011, FOUND A PROBABLE LINK BETWEEN PFOA IN KIDNEY CANCER,
09:53:41AM THYROID DISEASE AND OVERLIER IS DISEASES.
09:53:44AM TAMPA'S DRINKING WATER AND WASTEWATER EXCEED THE NEW PFOA
09:53:50AM AND PFAS STANDARDS.
09:53:53AM THE DRINKING WATERS MUST BE CLEANED TO MEET THE STANDARDS --
09:53:57AM THE DRINKING LEVELS HAVE TO BE REDUCED.
09:53:59AM BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO DRINK THE WASTEWATER.
09:54:02AM THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF OTHER PFAS CHEMICALS AND HUNDRED OF
09:54:07AM THOUSAND OF OTHER CHEMICALS USED WORLDWIDE.
09:54:10AM MANY ARE PRESENT.
09:54:11AM TAMPA'S WASTEWATER WITH NO STANDARDS.
09:54:13AM OUR CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE MADE TEST CASES WHETHER THESE
09:54:16AM CHEMICALS IN THE WASTEWATER WILL HARM THEM OVER THEIR
09:54:19AM LIFETIME.
09:54:19AM IF WE NEED TO REUSE WATER, THEN HOOK UP FREE WATER TO ALL
09:54:23AM THE HOUSEHOLDS CURRENTLY PASSED BY THE RECLAIMED WATER AND
09:54:27AM EXTEND IT TO THE AREA THAT USE LOTS OF DRINKING WATERS TO
09:54:31AM WATER LAWNS.
09:54:31AM WE SHOULD BE FURTHER CLEANING THE WATER GOING INTO THE BAY.
09:54:34AM WE SHOULD BE STOPPING CONTAMINATION AT THE SOURCE.
09:54:38AM STOP FUNDING THE PURE PROCESS TO USE WASTEWATER.
09:54:42AM USE MONEY TO SERVE THE PEOPLE AND ENVIRONMENT OF TAMPA THANK
09:54:46AM YOU.
09:54:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:54:48AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:54:53AM JAMES SHAW.
09:54:54AM I LIVE IN WEST TAMPA, AND I AM WITH THE GREATER TAMPA CHAPTER
09:54:57AM OF THE ACLU OF FLORIDA.
09:54:59AM I'M HERE TO TALK OF AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25.
09:55:02AM I HAVE REVIEWED THE -- LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
09:55:08AM IT IS BETTER.
09:55:09AM IT ELIMINATED THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE CRB BY A MAJORITY OF
09:55:13AM THE CRB PASS A VOTE -- DUPLICATE CAN THE VOTE OF THIS
09:55:18AM COUNCIL AND REMOVES THAT PROCEDURAL HURDLE.
09:55:22AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
09:55:23AM GIVES CRB THE ULTIMATE DECISION-MAKING AUTHORITY AND REDUCES
09:55:27AM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S ROLE TO THIS MINISTERIAL -- THE CITY
09:55:31AM SHALL HIRE THE CRB LEGAL ADVISOR BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS OF
09:55:34AM THE CRB.
09:55:36AM HOPE YOU ASK FOR CLARIFICATION WHOEVER THE CRB PICKS, THAT
09:55:42AM IS WHO GETS HIRED.
09:55:43AM STILL TRYING TO IMPOSE MINIMUM CRITERIA -- MINIMUM CRITERIA
09:55:49AM OF THE FLORIDA BAR.
09:55:50AM EVERY LAWYER -- THAT IS IMPLIED IN THE WORD "LAWYER" BUT
09:55:54AM SEVEN YEARS' EXPERIENCE AND EXPERIENCE IN CRIMINAL LAW,
09:55:58AM CIVIL, EMPLOYMENT LAW, LAW ENFORCEMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT
09:56:00AM LAW.
09:56:00AM PREFERENCE TO ATTORNEYS WITH FAMILIARITY WITH THE POLICE
09:56:05AM OFFICERS BILL OF RIGHTS 1983 LITIGATION.
09:56:08AM THE SUNSHINE LAW.
09:56:09AM THE POLICE OFFICERS BILL OF RIGHTS IS NINE WHOLE PAGES LONG.
09:56:13AM ANYBODY IN THE FLORIDA BAR IN AN HOUR AND I WILL HAVE THEM
09:56:17AM FAMILIAR WITH THIS.
09:56:17AM UNCLEAR WHO GETS TO DECIDE WHETHER THESE MINIMUM CRITERIA
09:56:24AM ARE MET AND I HOPE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE CITY
09:56:26AM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE BEFORE VOTING ON THIS.
09:56:28AM I HEARD THE NUMBER THROWN OUT COST $100,000 A YEAR.
09:56:31AM I AM NOT SURE I AM BELIEVING THAT.
09:56:33AM BY MY MATH, 15 HOURS A WEEK AT $250 AN HOUR WHICH I THINK IS
09:56:38AM HIGH COMES TO $45,000 A YEAR.
09:56:41AM AND I THINK YOU CAN GET SOMEBODY FOR A LOT LESS THAN $250 AN
09:56:45AM HOUR.
09:56:45AM I THINK YOU CAN FIND AN ATTORNEY WHO WANTED TO SERVE THEIR
09:56:49AM COMMUNITY FOR $150 AN HOUR.
09:56:50AM SO WITH ALL OF THOSE CAVEATS, I HOPE WE PASS THIS TODAY.
09:56:55AM I AM SURE YOU ARE TIRED OF SEEING ME BEING HERE AND I AM
09:56:58AM TIRED OF TAKING OFF OF WORK HERE.
09:57:01AM BUT WE KEEP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND DOING IT FOR
09:57:05AM YEARS AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY WANTS THE CITY COUNCIL TO
09:57:08AM TAKE ACTION AND I HOPE YOU WILL DO THAT TODAY.
09:57:10AM THANK YOU.
09:57:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, FOLKS.
09:57:16AM MY NAME IS DAVID JONES.
09:57:17AM I LIVE OVER IN DISTRICT 5.
09:57:20AM I SUPPORT WHAT WAS SAID OF THE CEMETERY, AS WELL AS
09:57:23AM INTRODUCE MORE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAMS THAT ACTUALLY BUILD UP
09:57:26AM SKILLS FOR BLACK FOLKS.
09:57:28AM IT IS JUST LIKE A TRAIN THAT PEOPLE KEEP COMING IN HERE
09:57:34AM FOR BARE MINIMUM THE LAST YEAR DEMANDING FOR THE BLACK
09:57:38AM COMMUNITY, AND WE KEEP GETTING DISRESPECTED FROM YOU UNTIL
09:57:42AM LITERALLY AFTER DEATH.
09:57:43AM AND COMES TOLL A POINT THAT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT
09:57:46AM THAT.
09:57:46AM ALL RIGHT.
09:57:47AM I AM OUT HERE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE AGENDA ITEM 25 AND
09:57:50AM THE ORDINANCE AROUND INDEPENDENT COUNT FOR OF THE CRB.
09:57:55AM WE KNOW THAT TPD HAS A HISTORY OF MISCONDUCT.
09:58:00AM THAT IS A FACT.
09:58:01AM WE WANT TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND THAT IS WHAT,
09:58:04AM LIKE, THE COMMUNITY IS DEMANDING.
09:58:06AM BY JUST ALLOWING THE CRB TO GET A SEPARATE LAWYER WITHOUT
09:58:11AM INFLUENCE FROM THE POLICE AND THE CITY, THAT IS BARE MINIMUM
09:58:17AM TO MAKE ACCOUNTABILITY MORE ACCESSIBLE.
09:58:20AM WHEN A RESTAURANT IS DIRTY, NASTY, YOU CALL THE HEALTH
09:58:25AM INSPECTOR, AND THEY WILL MAKE SURE IT IS FIXED OR SHUT IT
09:58:28AM DOWN.
09:58:28AM WHEN LAWYERS ARE ACTING OUT DOING WHAT THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED
09:58:33AM TO BE DOING, YOU CALL THE BAR ASSOCIATION AND THEY WILL HAVE
09:58:36AM THEIR LICENSE REVOKED AND NO LONGER PRACTICE LAW.
09:58:39AM IF I GO DOWN THE ROAD HAVING A BAD DAY, I GET MY LICENSE
09:58:42AM REVOKED.
09:58:43AM I GO TO JAIL.
09:58:44AM LIKE THE BARE MINIMUM MAKING SURE PEOPLE ARE BEING HELD
09:58:48AM ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING.
09:58:50AM THIS IS JUST LIKE A TOOL TO MAKE SURE THE POLICE ARE BEING
09:58:54AM HELD TO THE SAME STANDARDS AS LITERALLY EVERYBODY ELSE IN
09:58:56AM THE CITY.
09:58:57AM YEAH.
09:58:59AM AND YOU KNOW, JUST THE ADDITIONAL POINT THAT WE ARE STILL IN
09:59:04AM HERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T -- BECAUSE OF THE
09:59:07AM VETOES THAT HAPPENED BACK IN JANUARY.
09:59:09AM SOMETHING THAT FRANKLY SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED WHEN THIS
09:59:12AM AMENDMENT AND FOUR OTHERS WERE VETOED BY MAYOR JANE CASTOR
09:59:19AM AND THE ONLY ONE THAT DROPPED BECAUSE COUNCILMAN CITRO WAS
09:59:23AM SPEAKING OUT DEMANDING IT TO BE AN ORDINANCE.
09:59:26AM AN ORDINANCE HE HAS NOT VOTED FOR.
09:59:28AM YEAH, IT IS REALLY JUST AN ISSUE OF -- YOU KNOW AN ISSUE OF
09:59:36AM HAVING A BACKBONE.
09:59:38AM COMMUNITY SEES IT.
09:59:39AM PEOPLE SEE IT.
09:59:41AM WORDS DON'T MEAN NOTHING IF YOU CAN'T FOLLOW UP WITH IT.
09:59:44AM WE SAW THAT LAST WEEK.
09:59:46AM YEAH, RIGHT NOW THE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THE POLITICAL
09:59:49AM GAMES THAT KEEP HAPPENING IN TAMPA WE SAW THAT LAST WEEK
09:59:52AM WHEN PEOPLE SPOKE OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO COUNCILMAN GUDES OVER
09:59:55AM IN EAST TAMPA WITH THOSE VERY POINTED AD CAMPAIGNS.
09:59:59AM PEOPLE SPOKE OUT WITH THE AD CAMPAIGNS AGAINST COUNCILWOMAN
10:00:04AM HURTAK AND CARLSON.
10:00:05AM YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.
10:00:07AM THEY DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THE POLITICAL GAMES.
10:00:09AM WHAT WE NEED IS REAL ACTION BEING DONE OF THE PEOPLE UP IN
10:00:13AM THAT DAIS CLAIMING TO REPRESENT US.
10:00:16AM WE NEED ACTION BEING DONE NOW.
10:00:18AM YEAH, THANK YOU, Y'ALL.
10:00:26AM >> HELLO, MY NAME IS TAYLOR COOK, A MEMBER OF TAMPA BAY
10:00:30AM ACTION COMMITTEE, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO ITEM NUMBER 25.
10:00:33AM I STAND IN SOLIDARITY TO THE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY SOCIETY.
10:00:37AM I THINK IT IS ACTUALLY DISGUSTING THAT SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE
10:00:41AM TO COME UP HERE AND BEG ESSENTIALLY FOR THE MEMORIAL PARK TO
10:00:48AM BE PROTECTED.
10:00:50AM I THINK THAT IS JUST WRONG.
10:00:51AM BUT, YEAH, I WANT TO SAY THAT AN ARGUMENT WE HEARD AGAINST
10:00:57AM INDEPENDENT COUNCIL WHEN OUR GROUP MET WITH INDIVIDUAL
10:00:59AM MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, THOSE THAT WOULD MEET WITH US.
10:01:02AM IT WAS THAT -- AND THE CRB CAN CALL FOR A CONFLICT OF
10:01:09AM INTEREST AT ANY POINT, BUT I FRANKLY THINK THAT THIS
10:01:12AM ARGUMENT IS A COP OUT.
10:01:13AM I THINK IT IS WEAK, AND I THINK IT SHOULD ALREADY BE BUILT IN.
10:01:20AM WHY NOT HAVE IT BUILT IN.
10:01:21AM A FEW WEEKS AGO, SOME OF OUR MEMBERS WENT TO THE CRB MEETING
10:01:25AM BECAUSE SOMEONE CAME TO OUR GROUP ASKING FOR US TO BRING
10:01:28AM ATTENTION TO HER CASE OF POLICE BRUTALITY BY TPD IN 2019.
10:01:37AM WHEN WE DID, IT SEEMED LIKE THE CRB DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE UP
10:01:41AM THE CASE EVEN THOUGH IT WAS PRETTY GRUESOME AND KIND OF
10:01:44AM ABOUT ARE RATED US A BIT FOR BRINGING IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT
10:01:47AM DESPITE THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY ON HOW TO FILE COMPLAINTS
10:01:50AM AGAINST TPD THROUGH THE CRB.
10:01:56AM IF THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN TAKING UP A CASE, WHY SHOULD
10:01:59AM WE TRUST THEM TO CALL FOR A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
10:02:03AM IT SHOULD ALREADY BE THERE.
10:02:05AM I WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE PEOPLE -- PROTESTERS
10:02:09AM BRUTALIZED AT USF MARCH 6.
10:02:12AM THE FOUR PROTESTERS THAT WERE ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH
10:02:15AM FELONIES.
10:02:16AM DESPITE MASS VIDEO EVIDENCE.
10:02:23AM EVERYBODY THERE WAS RECORDING SOMETHING.
10:02:26AM I WAS THERE.
10:02:26AM PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST TRAUMATIC TIMES OF MY LIFE.
10:02:32AM THIS IS WITH USF POLICE.
10:02:35AM IF CAMPUS POLICE IS DOING STUFF LIKE THIS, WHAT IS
10:02:39AM STOPPING TPD TO DO STUFF LIKE THIS.
10:02:41AM THEY DID IT BACK IN 2020, BACK IN TIMES WHEN WE DON'T KNOW.
10:02:44AM AND WE WANT POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:02:46AM GRANTED IT WAS AT USF, BUT JUST ABSOLUTELY HORRID AND THAT
10:02:51AM IS THE KIND OF -- THAT IS WHY WE DON'T TRUST THE POLICE IS
10:02:55AM BECAUSE WE CAN GO AND WE CAN PROTEST FOR DIVERSITY AND
10:03:00AM FOR USF TO INCREASE BLACK ENROLLMENT AND PROTEST IN THE
10:03:03AM COMMUNITY FOR THINGS LIKE POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND BLACK
10:03:07AM PEOPLE SHOULDN'T BE MURDERED FOR NO REASON AND WE CAN GET
10:03:12AM BRUTALIZED AND TEAR GASSED AND PUT IN CHOKEHOLDS, ETC., ETC.
10:03:17AM THAT IS WHY THE COMMUNITY WANTS ACCOUNTABILITY AND
10:03:21AM TRANSPARENCY.
10:03:21AM WE HAVE SEEN IT IN OUR OWN EYES 9 BRUTALITY FOR POLICE.
10:03:24AM PLEASE VOTE FOR INDEPENDENT COUNSEL.
10:03:28AM THANK YOU.
10:03:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:03:30AM >> HELLO.
10:03:33AM MY NAME IS LAY.
10:03:35AM I AM A MEMBER OF THE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY ACTION COMMITTEE.
10:03:39AM LIVE IN TC.
10:03:40AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL FOR
10:03:43AM THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
10:03:45AM TPD HAS A LONG HISTORY OF MISCONDUCT AND MUST BE HELD
10:03:51AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HARM THEY HAVE DONE TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:03:53AM GIVING CRB A DIFFERENT LAWYER THAN THE ONE THAT REPRESENTS
10:03:57AM THE POLICE IS THE FIRST STEP TO ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:03:59AM THE CURRENT STATE OF THE CRB MAKES IT TOOTHLESS AND
10:04:03AM INACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.
10:04:05AM LIKE TAYLOR BEFORE ME SAID, WE WERE AT THE CRB AND TRYING TO
10:04:10AM GET A CASE OUT TO THEM.
10:04:11AM AND JUST NO AVENUE FOR US TO EVEN PRESENT THEM WITH A CASE.
10:04:16AM SO WHAT IS THE POINT OF THE BOARD IF THEY ARE JUST HANDED
10:04:19AM CASES FROM TPD, TALK ABOUT IT, DO A LITTLE PR STUNT AND OKAY
10:04:27AM THE TPD, YOU KNOW.
10:04:30AM HAVING THIS BOARD SEPARATED FROM TPD IS CRUCIAL TO FUNCTION
10:04:37AM PROPERLY AND SERVE THE PEOPLE.
10:04:38AM NOT JUST A SPEAKING MOUTHPIECE FOR TPD.
10:04:41AM AT THE END OF THE DAY, TPD ISN'T TRUSTED TO INVESTIGATE
10:04:47AM THEMSELVES AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE TRUSTED TO INVESTIGATE
10:04:51AM THEM SESSION.
10:04:52AM COUPLE OF YEARS BACK, JONAS JOSEPH SHOT 125 TIMES AND LIED
10:04:58AM AND COVERED UP THEIR STORY THREE TO FOUR DIFFERENT TEAMS
10:05:02AM THAT HE SHOT AT THEM AND BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.
10:05:05AM TURNED OUT TO BE LIES TO JUSTIFY THEIR BRUTAL ACT AND AVOID
10:05:09AM ANY SORT OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:05:11AM AND THAT IS NOT RIGHT.
10:05:12AM WE CAN'T HAVE THAT KEEP HAPPENING IN THE CITY.
10:05:14AM AND THAT IS A PARTICULARLY GRUESOME CASE, BUT THINGS LIKE
10:05:18AM HAPPEN EVERY DAY.
10:05:19AM ESPECIALLY TO BLACK FOLKS HERE IN TAMPA AND YOU KNOW, THE
10:05:24AM CITY TRIES TO AVOID TALKING OF RACE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR
10:05:28AM FORM BECAUSE THAT IS THE TAMPA WAY.
10:05:30AM WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.
10:05:32AM IT DOESN'T EXIST, RIGHT?
10:05:36AM BUT THIS IS WHY WE NEED THE CRB TO BE INDEPENDENT.
10:05:40AM THIS IS WHY WE NEED INDEPENDENT COUNSEL FOR THE CRB AND WHY
10:05:45AM WE NEED CITY COUNCIL TO BE CONSISTENT AND VOTE YES FOR
10:05:47AM INDEPENDENT COUNSEL FOR THE CRB.
10:05:59AM >> HELLO, I AM FILIP FREARO, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE
10:06:05AM ORDINANCE FOR INDEPENDENT COUNSEL FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW
10:06:09AM BOARD.
10:06:09AM BEFORE I BEGIN TO TALK ABOUT THIS, I WANT TO PREFACE BY
10:06:13AM SAYING I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY AND
10:06:17AM SAYING THAT I THINK IT IS HORRIBLE WHAT IS GOING ON OVER
10:06:19AM THERE.
10:06:20AM AND THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING BLACK HISTORY BE ERASED IN
10:06:25AM REALTIME IS TERRIBLE AND I BELIEVE WE NEED TO -- WE NEED TO
10:06:30AM GET THAT PARK UNDER -- OR THE CEMETERY UNDER CITY CONTROL
10:06:40AM AND PREVENT THE ERASURE FROM HAPPENING.
10:06:43AM SPEAKING ON THE INDEPENDENT COUNSEL FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW
10:06:46AM BOARD, I WANTED TO SAY THAT -- THAT TPD HAS A LONG HISTORY
10:06:55AM OF MISCONDUCT AND I THINK THAT INDEPENDENT COUNCIL FOR THE
10:06:59AM CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD IS THE FIRST STEP IN FINDING THAT
10:07:03AM ACCOUNTABILITY AS TAYLOR BEFORE ME MENTIONED, THAT AS A
10:07:09AM GROUP, WE HAVE ORGANIZED AROUND THE CRB AND TRIED HELPING
10:07:15AM WITH A LOCAL CASE OF SOMEBODY TRYING TO REPORT THEIR CASE TO
10:07:21AM THE CRB AND STRUGGLING ALONG THE WAY.
10:07:25AM A GROUP THAT DEDICATED SO MUCH TIME AND RESEARCH TO THE CRB
10:07:28AM IS STRUGGLING WITH IT, IMAGINE HOW DIFFICULT IT WOULD BE FOR
10:07:32AM SOMEBODY WITHOUT THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAVE TO TRY TO DO
10:07:35AM THE SAME THING I THINK GIVING ACCESS TO INDEPENDENT COUNCIL
10:07:42AM WILL STREAM LINE THE PROCESS AND HELP THE CRB TO BE MORE
10:07:46AM EFFECTIVE IN HELPING THE COMMUNITY.
10:07:47AM THANK YOU.
10:07:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:07:50AM >> HI, JOSEPH NAHAVA, NORTH TAMPA.
10:07:58AM I AM WITH TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY ACTION COMMITTEE.
10:08:02AM YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO WHAT MY FRIENDS HAVE ALL SAID
10:08:06AM DEFINITELY ABOUT THE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY NEEDING TO BE
10:08:09AM RESTORED TO CITY CONTROL.
10:08:11AM AGAIN, THE ERASURE OF BLACK HISTORY IS AN ONGOING ISSUE WITH
10:08:17AM THIS CITY, NOT JUST THE CEMETERY BUT CENTRAL AVENUE AND
10:08:20AM BEYOND.
10:08:23AM TO SEE THE CITY REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKES AGAIN.
10:08:26AM CLEARLY YOU HAVE NOT LEARNED, NOT JUST YOU IN COUNCIL BUT
10:08:30AM ALSO THE MAYOR.
10:08:31AM I LIKE THE BABY JANE APPELATION, I THINK I MAY STEAL THAT.
10:08:37AM ANYWAY, THE CITY NEEDS TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND STEP UP AND
10:08:43AM TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
10:08:45AM YES, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE ORDINANCE BEFORE
10:08:47AM YOU ALL.
10:08:51AM AGENDA ITEM 25 GIVING THE CRB THEIR OWN ATTORNEY.
10:08:55AM WOULD YOU THINK A CITY THAT THAT HAS BEEN UNDER -- HAS BEEN
10:08:58AM AND IS UNDER MULTIPLE FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS FOR, YOU KNOW,
10:09:02AM POLICING PROGRAMS IN THE CITY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, JUMPING AT
10:09:07AM THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY
10:09:11AM WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:09:11AM AND YET, BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR'S VETO AND SOME
10:09:16AM MEMBERS OF COUNCIL GOING ALONG WITH THAT, IT HAVEN'T
10:09:21AM HAPPENED.
10:09:21AM BAFFLING TO ALL OF US.
10:09:24AM AGAIN, A SIMPLE, POPULAR DEMOCRATIC MEASURE THAT PEOPLE
10:09:29AM SUPPORT, PEOPLE WANT TO SEE AND EFFECTIVELY HAVEN'T HAPPENED
10:09:32AM IS JUST ASTOUNDING.
10:09:33AM YOU KNOW, WHO IS TO SAY THAT IF THE CRB WERE MORE
10:09:38AM INDEPENDENT.
10:09:38AM WERE OUTSIDE COUNTY STRUCTURE OF TPD, WHO IS TO SAY THAT
10:09:45AM PEOPLE MIGHT NOT HAVE FELT MORE COMFORTABLE COMING FORWARD.
10:09:48AM BIKING WHILE BLACK.
10:09:50AM RENTING WHILE BLACK.
10:09:51AM MAYBE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED AND COULD HAVE AVOIDED
10:09:56AM THESE COSTLY UNFORTUNATE INVESTIGATIONS AND THIS WHOLE THING
10:10:00AM MIGHT HAVE BEEN CONCLUDED WITHOUT THE NEED FOR SPRAWL
10:10:06AM INTERVENTION.
10:10:07AM MAKES GOOD SENSE AND GOOD GOVERNANCE OTHER CITIES, OTHER
10:10:14AM COUNTIES HAVE THIS MEASURE AND SEEMS TO WORK FINE WITH THEM.
10:10:17AM AGAIN, I AM REFERENCING THE CASE OF THE YOUNG LADY THAT CAME
10:10:24AM TO US.
10:10:24AM HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING BECAUSE OF WHERE HER ISSUE TOOK
10:10:31AM PLACE IN THE HOSPITAL, BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, USE SUBPOENA
10:10:35AM POWER WHICH, YOU KNOW, WAS ALSO VOTED DOWN BY THIS COUNCIL,
10:10:40AM WOULD HAVE, IN THEORY, ALLOWED THE CRB GATHER PHYSICAL
10:10:45AM EVIDENCE WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS YOUNG LADY TO SEE IN BLACK
10:10:48AM AND WHITE EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
10:10:50AM IS TPD TELLING THE TRUTH CASE.
10:10:58AM IT NEEDS AN INDEPENDENT ATTORNEY AND SUBPOENA POWER
10:11:03AM FROM TPD.
10:11:04AM THANK YOU.
10:11:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:11:05AM ANYBODY ELSE IN CHAMBERS?
10:11:07AM MR. BARTON, I AM GOING TO GO TO SEE WHO IS ONLINE AND THEN
10:11:11AM COME BACK TO YOU.
10:11:12AM MR. RANDOLPH, ARE YOU ONLINE?
10:11:17AM >> YES, I AM ONLINE.
10:11:18AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:11:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR, WE CAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:11:22AM >> GOOD MORNING, MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH WITH THE WEST
10:11:27AM TAMPA CAC.
10:11:29AM I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PROJECT AND MEETING HELD DURING
10:11:34AM THE WEEK.
10:11:34AM THE WEST TAMPA CAC BRINGING BACK -- ASKING TO BRING BACK --
10:11:44AM I THINK WHEN I TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT, WE WILL BRING IT
10:11:49AM BACK.
10:11:49AM I AM HAPPY TO BE PART OF THE WIN-WIN PROJECT FOR RESIDENTS
10:11:54AM OF TAMPA.
10:11:55AM RESIDENTS OF WEST TAMPA.
10:11:57AM AS WELL AS BEING PART OF THE -- WEST TAMPA CAC OF TECHNOLOGY
10:12:06AM AND JOB CREATION.
10:12:08AM THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF PRIVATE-PUBLIC RELATIONSHIP AT ITS
10:12:14AM BEST.
10:12:14AM 40% OF BUSINESS SHOULD BE SET ASIDE.
10:12:19AM BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST
10:12:23AM THREE YEARS OF THIS PROJECT.
10:12:26AM FIRST, THEY WANT TO SEE A REDUCTION IN DENSITY.
10:12:31AM THEY WANT TO SEE A REDUCTION IN CRIME.
10:12:34AM THEY WANT INCREASE IN PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:12:37AM INCREASE IN BLACK BUSINESSES.
10:12:42AM AN INCREASE IN EMPOWERMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:12:46AM AND FOR TECHNOLOGY.
10:12:51AM THE FIRST PROJECT IS A HOME-BASED COMMERCIAL CENTER IN WHICH
10:12:55AM WE ARE WORKING WITH OVER 50 TO 75 NEW BUSINESSES THAT HAVE
10:13:00AM STARTED IN WEST TAMPA.
10:13:02AM THAT IS WHAT WE CALL CURATING WEALTH.
10:13:11AM FOCUSED ON LOW INCOME.
10:13:14AM THE OPPORTUNITY GROW.
10:13:22AM AND WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE WEST TAMPA BUSINESS COMMERCE
10:13:29AM PROJECT THAT WILL CONNECT BUSINESSES, RESIDENTS AND CONNECT
10:13:33AM RESIDENTS TO HISS.
10:13:34AM THE WEST TAMPA TECHNOLOGY CENTER WILL INCLUDE WORKING WITH
10:13:40AM YOUNG PEOPLE IN MOBILE APPLICATIONS, SOFT WEARY APPLICATIONS
10:13:47AM AND ETC.
10:13:48AM THE NEXT PROJECT IS WHAT WE CALLED THE PERFORMANCE ART AND
10:13:53AM PRODUCTION CENTER WHICH WILL PROCEED REGARDING STUDIO FOR
10:13:58AM YOUNG PEOPLE.
10:13:59AM A TV STATION, AS WELL AS A RADIO STATION FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
10:14:09AM WE THINK WE HAVE BROUGHT BACK IN INTO THE COMMUNITY.
10:14:16AM WE ASK THE CITY OF TAMPA WHEN DO YOU PROJECTS, INTENTION
10:14:20AM ALLEY TO REDUCE GENTRIFICATION.
10:14:24AM THANK YOU AGAIN.
10:14:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
10:14:34AM MISS POYNOR, ARE YOU THERE?
10:14:41AM MISS POYNOR, ARE YOU THERE?
10:14:44AM >> I'M HERE.
10:14:44AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:14:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
10:14:47AM >> I AM FREEZING IN HELEN, GEORGIA.
10:14:50AM FIRST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ITEMS NUMBER 4-6.
10:14:53AM I WATCH AND I UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT WHAT GOES ON AT THE CITY
10:14:59AM OF TAMPA THAN PROBABLY THE MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS WHO LIVE
10:15:01AM HERE.
10:15:02AM AND ONCE AGAIN, THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT AND THE WATER
10:15:07AM DEPARTMENT TAKE THE CAKE FOR MAKING THEMSELVES THE MOST
10:15:10AM CONFUSING BUNCH OF PEOPLE I HAVE EVER SEEN.
10:15:13AM $88 MILLION IN THREE ITEMS BRINGING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
10:15:17AM THEY JUST IS IT A PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF YOUR BUDGET
10:15:20AM COMMITTEE A MONTH AGO.
10:15:21AM I DON'T REMEMBER THEM TALKING OF SPENDING ANOTHER $88
10:15:24AM MILLION.
10:15:25AM HOW MUCH OF THIS IS ATTACHED TO THE PURE PROJECT?
10:15:30AM DON'T KNOW.
10:15:31AM HOW MUCH OF IT -- LIKE THE KEYSTONE COPS WHEN WE ARE DEALING
10:15:34AM WITH WASTEWATER.
10:15:35AM I NEVER UNDERSTAND.
10:15:37AM EITHER THEY ARE VERY, VERY IGNORANT FOLKS WHICH I SERIOUSLY
10:15:43AM DOUBT OR MADE TO BE CONFUSING.
10:15:45AM PLEASE, PLEASE, CONTINUE THIS UNTIL WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT
10:15:48AM WE ARE DOING WITH OUR MONEY.
10:15:49AM $88 MILLION.
10:15:52AM EVEN IF IT IS ONLY WASTEWATER AND WASTEWATER HAS ITS OWN
10:15:57AM BUDGET.
10:15:57AM I WANT TO KNOW IF WE HAD THE CASH TO PAY FOR IT BECAUSE TIME
10:16:01AM TO PAY FOR THINGS OUT OF OUR POCKET.
10:16:03AM WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND MONEY WE DON'T HAVE UNLESS WE ARE
10:16:07AM ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO DO SO.
10:16:09AM AND I DON'T SEE THAT IS THE CASE OR IT WILL BE TALKED ABOUT
10:16:13AM FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS ON END.
10:16:15AM OF COURSE, 13 AND 14 ARE PURE, WHICH NEEDS TO GO.
10:16:19AM NUMBER 20, CMT NEEDS TO CONTINUE, OF COURSE.
10:16:24AM THE STUDY FOR FOOD DESERTS IN NUMBER 21.
10:16:28AM I HAVE A LOT OF OPINIONS ABOUT THAT.
10:16:30AM THERE IS NO REASON TO FIGURE OUT WHERE OUR FOOD DESERTS ARE
10:16:34AM BECAUSE THE USDA DEFINE WHAT IS A FOOD DESERT IS AND WHERE
10:16:39AM THEY ARE LOCATED.
10:16:40AM AND DON'T FORGET OUR PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
10:16:44AM WHY ARE WE PRESENTING SOMETHING THAT IS A YEAR OLD AT THIS
10:16:48AM POINT?
10:16:49AM I JUST DIDN'T I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T GET IT
10:16:52AM TOGETHER.
10:16:53AM WE SPEND $1 MILLION ON A TRANSPORTATION STUDY IN THE LAST
10:16:56AM COUPLE OF WEEKS.
10:16:57AM WE SPENT $750,000 ON A HOUSING STUDY.
10:17:01AM WE STUDY ALL KINDS OF STUFF IN THIS CITY, AND YET, WE CAN'T
10:17:06AM GET A MASTER PLAN?
10:17:08AM I MEAN, HECK, THE -- THE FIRE DEPARTMENT UNION HAS ALREADY
10:17:12AM DONE A MASTER PLAN THAT IT WOULDN'T BE TOO HARD TO, LIKE,
10:17:16AM LOOK AT AND SAY, HEY, MAYBE WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD FROM
10:17:19AM THAT.
10:17:20AM THE BEGGAR SIGNS -- NUMBER 17.
10:17:23AM THOSE ARE PART OF OUR GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICES THAT SEEM TO BE
10:17:27AM STALLED BEHIND THE SCENES AND WE WOULD LIKE TO START TO SEE
10:17:30AM IT MOVE FORWARD AGAIN.
10:17:31AM THAT GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
10:17:33AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT AND THE THAN YBOR WORKED WITH THE LAND
10:17:41AM USE ATTORNEYS AND THE TAMPA BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.
10:17:43AM TIME FOR IT TO MOVE FORWARD AND THOSE SIGNS ARE PART OF THAT
10:17:46AM GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE PROCESS.
10:17:49AM THANK YOU.
10:17:49AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:17:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:17:53AM MISS COLTHANE, ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
10:17:58AM OKAY.
10:17:58AM THANK YOU.
10:17:59AM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SPEAKER MR. FREDDY BARTON WITH SAFE
10:18:02AM AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH COME UP TO SPEAK TO US FOR ONE SECOND
10:18:07AM IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:18:08AM HE ALSO HAS A BRIEF VIDEO.
10:18:10AM MR. BARTON.
10:18:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:18:15AM AGAIN, FREDDIE BARTON WITH SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH.
10:18:19AM I WOULD HIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THIS BRIEF MOMENT
10:18:23AM TO SPEAK WITH YOU.
10:18:24AM I WANT TO START WITH SOME NUMBERS.
10:18:26AM SEVEN YOUTH WERE ARRESTED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IN
10:18:29AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ON TUESDAY.
10:18:31AM AND THEY WERE IN COURT ON -- YESTERDAY MORNING.
10:18:35AM UNFORTUNATELY, I HAVE THE TASK OF BEING IN COURT EVERY
10:18:40AM SINGLE DAY INCLUDING CHRISTMAS DAY AND THE DAY AFTER
10:18:43AM CHRISTMAS WHICH MEANS YOUTH ARE GETTING ARRESTED ON THOSE
10:18:47AM DAYS AND OUT OF THE SEVEN YOUTH, HIGHLIGHT FOUR OF THEM.
10:18:53AM 16-YEAR-OLD BASED ON FLORIDA STATUTE WAS A FELON IN
10:18:56AM POSSESSION OF A FIREARM AND A MINOR IN POSSESSION OF A
10:18:59AM FIREARM.
10:18:59AM ANOTHER 16-YEAR-OLD YOUTH WAS CHARGED WITH CARRYING A
10:19:03AM CONCEALED FIREARM AND MINOR IN POSSESSION OF A FIREARM.
10:19:08AM APPEAR 14-YEAR-OLD YOUTH WAS CHARGED WITH POSSESSION OF A
10:19:11AM FIREARM, GRAND THEFT AND BURGLARY.
10:19:13AM AND A 13-YEAR-OLD WHO WAS HIS YOUNGER BROTHER WAS CHARGED
10:19:18AM WITH THE SAME.
10:19:18AM LAST WEEK, AS PART OF OUR YOUTH GUN OFFENDER PROGRAM, SEVEN
10:19:24AM YOUNG MEN WHO HAVE BEEN CHARGED AND ARE GOING THROUGH THE
10:19:27AM JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM ON GUN OR WEAPON-RELATED OFFENSES
10:19:33AM WENT TO A FUNERAL HOME -- THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR
10:19:36AM HELPING TO TOWARD NATE THAT -- WHEN THEY LEARNED WHAT
10:19:39AM HAPPENS TO A VICTIM IF THEY LOSE THEIR LIFE DUE TO A GUNSHOT
10:19:43AM WOUND AND HOW THAT BODY NEEDS TO BE PREPARED NOT FOR THE
10:19:47AM VICTIM BUT SO THAT THE FAMILY CAN SEE THAT INDIVIDUAL.
10:19:50AM THIS IS PART OF A PROCESS THAT WE TAKE THESE YOUNG
10:19:55AM INDIVIDUALS WITH THROUGH IN HOPES TO HELP TURN THEM AROUND.
10:20:00AM MORE NUMBERS.
10:20:01AM IN 2022, 170 NONFATAL AND 39 FATAL SHOOTINGS OCCURRED IN THE
10:20:08AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:20:08AM IN ADDITION, ANOTHER 70 NONFATAL AND 34 FATAL SHOOTINGS
10:20:16AM HAPPENED IN UNINCORPORATED HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OUTSIDE OF
10:20:19AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:20:20AM COMBINED, THOSE NUMBERS COMPLETELY ECLIPSE ALL OF THE
10:20:25AM NUMBERS IN 2021.
10:20:26AM I HAVE HERE ON TRANSPARENCY A PROJECT THAT WE PUT TOGETHER
10:20:33AM AT SAFER SOUND HILLSBOROUGH MONDAY MARCH 20 AT 7 P.M. AT THE
10:20:40AM TAMPA THEATRE.
10:20:41AM WE HAVE COMMISSIONED A SHORT FILM NEARLY 20 MINUTES IN
10:20:45AM LENGTHEN TITLED "BLINK" BECAUSE IN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME LIVES
10:20:58AM CAN BE CHANGED ASK THE COUNCIL AND THE GREATER COMMUNITY TO
10:21:00AM COME OUT TO THE TAMPA THEATRE NOT TO WATCH THE FILM, BUT TO
10:21:05AM WATCH THE FILM AND BE READY FOR A REAL COMMUNITY DISCUSSION.
10:21:08AM WE WANT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE.
10:21:16AM WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY THERE.
10:21:17AM BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WE WANT OUR KIDS THERE.
10:21:19AM FOUR OUT OF SEVEN YOUTH WERE IN COURT YESTERDAY FOR FIREARM
10:21:23AM CHARGES.
10:21:23AM AS A FATHER OF TWO YOUNG BLACK MEN, 18 AND 16.
10:21:31AM IT SCARES ME THAT WE STILL LIVE IN THEY ARE A.
10:21:33AM I AM ASKING THAT EVERYBODY GO TO SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH
10:21:37AM WEB SITE.
10:21:37AM WWW.SAFEANDSOUND.ORG.
10:21:43AM REGISTER TO ATTEND THE PREMIERE.
10:21:45AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO -- WE WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE
10:21:48AM COMING.
10:21:48AM AS OF ONE MINUTE GO 525 PEOPLE REGISTERED TO ATTEND.
10:21:53AM THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE OUR PARTNERS WITH TPD.
10:22:04AM WE HAVE A PRELOADED TRAILER OF THE FILM.
10:22:08AM SELF-OF OUR YOUTH IN OUR YOUTH OFFENDER PROGRAM PARTICIPATED
10:22:13AM IN THE FILMING OF THIS AND WILL PARTICIPATE IN THE
10:22:15AM DISCUSSION.
10:22:15AM WE KNOW THE NUMBERS WE KNOW THE PROBLEM.
10:22:20AM WE HAVE THE PROBLEMS.
10:22:21AM WE HAVE THE NUMBERS.
10:22:22AM WE HAVE THE STATISTICS.
10:22:23AM WHAT WE DON'T HAVE IS ENOUGH OF COMMUNITY-BORNE SOLUTIONS.
10:22:28AM SO IT IS MY PLEA NOT TO THIS COUNCIL, BUT TO TAMPA AND THE
10:22:33AM SURROUNDING AREAS TO INCLUDE CITY COUNCIL TO PLEASE HELP US
10:22:40AM AS I SHOW THE TRAILER AND ASK FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE AND
10:22:43AM PARTICIPATION.
10:22:44AM I HAVE EXTRA FLYERS FOR COUNCILMEMBERS IF I CAN APPROACH
10:22:47AM AFTER THE TRAILER.
10:22:48AM I THANK YOU.
10:22:48AM IF WE CAN SHOW THE TRAILER RIGHT NOW.
10:23:37AM >>> THANK YOU.
10:23:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:23:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:23:42AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: FREDDIE, THANK YOU FOR CONTACTING ME.
10:23:45AM MY BROTHER TOLD ME IT WAS IMPACTFUL OVER THERE.
10:23:48AM SO I AM GLAD THAT THEY GOT TO SEE WHATEVER THEY SAW.
10:23:53AM MY BROTHER DIDN'T FILL ME IN ON THE DETAILS BUT HE WANTS TO
10:23:57AM KEEP PARTNERING WITH YOU TO BRING OTHERS THROUGH AND MAYBE
10:24:00AM SOME OF OUR FUNERAL HOMES CAN DO THE SAME THING.
10:24:02AM GLAD YOU DID THAT.
10:24:04AM BUT GLAD YOU ARE STILL WITH US.
10:24:05AM GOD IS GOOD.
10:24:06AM >> THANK YOU, ALL THE TIME.
10:24:09AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SEEMS TO HAVE A LITTLE LIMP THERE, BUT A
10:24:12AM GOOD GOD.
10:24:12AM WHEN ONE DOOR CLOSES, ANOTHER ONE ALWAYS OPENS UP.
10:24:16AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
10:24:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALWAYS.
10:24:18AM YOU KNOW AS YOU TALK ABOUT OUR VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITIES,
10:24:26AM SEE, I ALWAYS SAYS IT ABOUT OPPORTUNITY.
10:24:30AM IT IS ABOUT OPPORTUNITY.
10:24:31AM AS I LOOKED AT OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY HOW IT IS REDEVELOPED
10:24:36AM AND BUILT UP, GO TO OTHER PLACES WHERE THERE IS NO
10:24:41AM OPPORTUNITY.
10:24:43AM SEE, IF I LOOK GOOD, I FEEL GOOD.
10:24:45AM I DO GOOD.
10:24:46AM I ACT GOOD.
10:24:47AM IF I DO GOOD.
10:24:48AM I FEEL GOOD.
10:24:49AM I ACT GOOD.
10:24:50AM I AM PREPARED.
10:24:51AM WHEN THE CHALLENGE COMES, I AM PREPARED.
10:24:55AM NO MATTER WHAT THE CHALLENGE IS, I AM PREPARED TO DO GOOD.
10:25:00AM FEEL GOOD.
10:25:01AM ACT GOOD.
10:25:03AM MISS POYNOR MADE A POINT THE NUMBERS OF HOW MUCH MONEY WE
10:25:09AM SPEND ON PROJECTS AND THE NUMBERS WE DO FOR ROADS AND OTHER
10:25:12AM THINGS THAT WE DO NEED.
10:25:14AM I ALWAYS SAY THERE HAS GOT TO COME A TIME WHEN YOU HAVE
10:25:17AM SOMEONE WHO IS IN AUTHORITY WHO CAN SAY, LET'S SPEND $100
10:25:26AM MILLION IN BONDS TO BE CLEAN UP COMMUNITIES.
10:25:28AM SPENDS THAT TYPE OF MONEY TO GO IN AN AREA AND CLEAN IT UP.
10:25:32AM TO HAVE A TEAM TO SAY -- A TEAM GOES EAST TAMPA.
10:25:37AM TEAM GOES TO SULPHUR SPRINGS AND CLEAN IT UP.
10:25:40AM WHERE HE BUILD FOR THE PEOPLE TO STAY THERE.
10:25:43AM WE WANT TO BOND THAT OUT.
10:25:44AM HAVE COFFEE SHOPS THAT I ALWAYS DAY -- WHEN I LEAVE HERE, I
10:25:50AM WILL BE ANOTHER ENTREPRENEUR AND HAVE A GOOD COFFEE SHOP
10:25:52AM WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO AND HAVE A COMPUTER AND LOOK AT IN OUR
10:25:55AM COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY COFFEE SHOPS.
10:25:58AM TO GO AND DO POLITICAL TALK AND ALL KIND OF BUSINESS.
10:26:02AM WE DON'T DO ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
10:26:04AM SO I AM PRAYING THAT IF YOU GET ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM
10:26:08AM WITH THE THEATRE THAT -- WHATEVER THIS FILM IS GOING TO SHOW
10:26:12AM AND OPEN PEOPLE'S EYES.
10:26:13AM BECAUSE IF YOU NEVER LIVE -- YOU NEVER LIVED IT, YOU DON'T
10:26:17AM UNDERSTAND IT.
10:26:18AM YOU NEVER LIVED TO HAVE WHY YOU ARE LIGHTS TURNED OFF OR
10:26:22AM GOING TO BED HUNGRY AT NIGHT OR GO TO SCHOOL WEARING SOMEONE
10:26:26AM ELSE'S CLOTHES OR DIRTY CLOTHES AND TEACHER GO THE TO PULL
10:26:30AM NEW THE ROOM BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND -- YOU HAVE
10:26:32AM BEEN A TEACHER.
10:26:33AM A CLOSET FULL OF CLOTHES FOR KIDS WHO DON'T HAVE IT OR
10:26:37AM PARENTS ARE ON DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND THEY ARE TAKING CARE OF
10:26:40AM THE YOUNGER BROTHERS AND SISTERS.
10:26:42AM SEE I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU KNOW.
10:26:44AM THAT'S WHY -- THE ANGRY BLACK -- NOT AN ANGRY BLACK MAN.
10:26:49AM I AM A BLACK MAN WHO UNDERSTANDS IT.
10:26:52AM DON'T CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK OR TO DO YOU.
10:26:55AM MY GOD IS GOOD.
10:26:56AM HE WILL GET ME THROUGH ANY STORM.
10:26:59AM YOU CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE.
10:27:01AM I WILL BE OUT THERE WITH YOU.
10:27:03AM I WILL HAVE MORE TIME.
10:27:05AM I HAVE MY BALL CAP READY, MR. MIRANDA.
10:27:08AM I HAVE MY WILSON.
10:27:09AM MY BALL CAP AND WILSON.
10:27:12AM I AM READY TO GO TO WORK.
10:27:13AM AFTER MAY 1, I WILL STILL GO TO WORK.
10:27:16AM YOU WILL STILL HEAR MY MOUTH.
10:27:17AM YOU KEEP STRONG IN WHAT YOU ARE DOING, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE
10:27:21AM LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE TO DO LIKE-MINDED THINGS.
10:27:24AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
10:27:26AM >> THANK YOU.
10:27:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LIKE COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID, I APPRECIATE
10:27:34AM WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
10:27:34AM TAKES MORE THAN YOURSELF AND YOUR GROUP.
10:27:37AM I CAN ONLY TELL YOU BY MY OWN EXPERIENCE BROGUE UP IN 1806
10:27:42AM KENNEL COURT.
10:27:43AM I PLAY WITH EVERYBODY THERE.
10:27:46AM I KNOW THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
10:27:48AM WELL, I THINK I DO.
10:27:50AM YOU NEVER LEARN ANYTHING IN LIFE, I'LL TELL YOU THAT.
10:27:52AM BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT TO ME ONE DAY I THOUGHT I WAS AS
10:27:56AM HOT-SHOT BASEBALL PLAYER AND HANG AROUND WITH SOME GUYS WHO
10:27:59AM MAYBE WERE NOT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
10:28:02AM MY FATHER SAID ONE THING, LET ME TOO SEE YOUR HAND.
10:28:06AM NO CELL PHONE.
10:28:07AM PHONES IN THE CORNER PUT A DEEM IN AND YOU COULD TALK TO
10:28:10AM SOMEONE.
10:28:10AM HE HANDED ME A DIME.
10:28:12AM I SAID WHAT IS A DIME FOR?
10:28:14AM HE SAID IF YOU GET IN TROUBLE, CALL SOMEBODY ELSE.
10:28:16AM THAT STAYED WITH ME FOREVER.
10:28:19AM SOME I UNDERSTAND OR I THINK I DO BECAUSE NO ONE REALLY
10:28:25AM UNDERSTANDS ALL OF IT.
10:28:27AM IT COULD BE ONE LIFE THAT EXPLODES IN A DIRECTION OF
10:28:32AM SOMEONE.
10:28:32AM BUT WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS AT DIFFERENT AGES HANGING OUT WITH
10:28:35AM KIDS THAT ARE OLDER THAN THEM, THEY BECOME THE ROLE MODEL
10:28:39AM FOR THEM.
10:28:39AM NOT THE PARENTS.
10:28:41AM NOT THE FAMILY.
10:28:42AM SO THIS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE.
10:28:45AM YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND AND START FROM NOT WHEN THEY ARE 14
10:28:49AM AND 15.
10:28:50AM BUT WHEN THEY ARE FOUR AND FIVE YEARS OLD.
10:28:52AM BECAUSE THE CULTURE WILL NOT CHANGE IF YOU GET THEM PAST 15
10:28:56AM OR 16.
10:28:56AM THEY HAVE SEEN TOO MANY THINGS.
10:28:58AM WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF MONEY EARNING IT THE HARD
10:29:01AM WAY.
10:29:01AM LET'S GO BACK JUST A FEW YEARS.
10:29:04AM WE SPEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TELLING PEOPLE NOT TO SMOKE
10:29:08AM MARIJUANA BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE IS MAKING THE MONEY.
10:29:10AM NOW WE ARE SELLING IT AND THE STATE IS GETTING THE MONEY.
10:29:13AM WHAT IS THE HILL THE DIFFERENCE?
10:29:15AM IT IS STILL MARIJUANA?
10:29:18AM WHY DID WE SPEND THE MONEY?
10:29:20AM YOU GOT TO ASK YOURSELF THE QUESTIONS.
10:29:24AM I WAS VERY FORTUNATE.
10:29:25AM IF I EVER COME BACK AGAIN AS SOMEBODY ELSE, I WANT TO COME
10:29:29AM BACK THE SAME WAY AND HAVE THE SAME FRIENDS, THE SAME WIFE
10:29:31AM AND THE SAME KIDS.
10:29:32AM AND THIS IS WHAT YOU GOT TO INSTILL IN THEM.
10:29:36AM THAT THERE IS A WAY OUT.
10:29:38AM AND IT MAY NOT BE WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE IN MONEY, BUT
10:29:41AM YOU WON'T BE IN HANDCUFFS.
10:29:43AM AND ONCE YOU HAVE THAT, THAT DEGREE AND COMING OUT OF JAIL,
10:29:48AM YOU GOT AN X BEHIND YOU AND IN FRONT OF YOU AND MAKE IT MUCH
10:29:56AM HARDER WHERE YOU WANT TO GO BECAUSE YOU COMMITTED A CRIME,
10:30:01AM GUILTY OF IT AND YOU SERVED SOME TIME.
10:30:03AM THE PROBLEM IS AS I SEE IT -- I USED TO GIVE SPEECHES TO
10:30:07AM KIDS IN FALKENBERG JAIL.
10:30:10AM YOU KNOW WHY I STOPPED GOING IN BECAUSE WHEN THEY WENT BACK
10:30:15AM HOME, GOING RIGHT WHERE THEY WERE.
10:30:18AM I WASTED MY TIME, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
10:30:21AM I KNEW THEY WERE GOING TO THE SAME PLACE.
10:30:23AM WHAT -- I COULDN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
10:30:25AM I SAID WHAT THE HILL AM I DOING HERE.
10:30:27AM SO UNLESS THE SYSTEM CHANGES, YOU WILL NEVER GOING TO FIX
10:30:32AM THE PROBLEM.
10:30:34AM YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM BEFORE YOU CAN TRY TO FIX
10:30:37AM IT.
10:30:37AM BUT THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
10:30:39AM I WILL TRY TO BE THERE AT 7:00.
10:30:41AM I CAN MAKE THOSE.
10:30:42AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:30:43AM >> THANK YOU.
10:30:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, MR. BARTON.
10:30:50AM YOU READY?
10:31:07AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, DAVID HARVEY, ASSISTANT STATE
10:31:11AM ATTORNEY.
10:31:11AM I'M HERE IN CONNECTION WITH THE CURRENTLY PENDING FEDERAL
10:31:17AM LAWSUIT ROBERT VAZO VERSUS CITY OF TAMPA.
10:31:20AM AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER WE ARE ASKING A CLOSED CITY COUNCIL
10:31:24AM MEETING TO DISCUSS THAT CASE.
10:31:26AM THESE TYPE OF CLOSED MEETINGS GOVERNED 286.011 SUBSECTIONS
10:31:33AM 8.
10:31:33AM SO I AM GOING TO REVIEW THAT QUICKLY FOR COUNCIL'S BENEFIT.
10:31:40AM AGAIN, THIS APPLIES -- WE HAVE CURRENTLY PENDING LITIGATION
10:31:43AM THAT THE CITY IS A PARTY AND WHICH WE ARE.
10:31:45AM WE ARE A DEFENDANT IN THAT -- IN THAT LAWSUIT.
10:31:47AM IN ORDER TO HAVE A CLOSED MEETING, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS
10:31:51AM MUST BE MET.
10:31:52AM FIRST, THE ENTITY'S ATTORNEY MUST ADVISE THE ENTITY AT A
10:31:57AM PUBLIC MEETING THAT SHE DESIRES ADVICE CONCERNING
10:32:00AM LITIGATION.
10:32:01AM THAT IS WHAT I'M HERE TODAY AT THIS PUBLIC MEETING DOING,
10:32:04AM ADVISING THAT WE NEED ADVICE CONCERNING THE VAZO CASE.
10:32:09AM THE SUBJECT MATTER OF THE CLOSED MEETING CONFINED TO
10:32:12AM STRATEGY NEGOTIATIONS REGARDING TO LITIGATION EXPENDITURES
10:32:18AM THIS MEET BEING WILL BE SPECIFIC TO SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS.
10:32:22AM THE THIRD CONDITION, THAT THE ENTIRE SESSION WILL BE
10:32:26AM RECORDED BY A CERTIFIED COURT REPORTER.
10:32:29AM TIMES, COMMENCEMENT AND TERMINATION, ALL DISCUSSION AND
10:32:32AM PROCEEDINGS, THE NAMES OF ALL PERSONS PRESENT AT ANY TIME,
10:32:35AM AND THE NAMES OF ALL PERSONS SPEAKING.
10:32:38AM NO PORTION OF THE SESSION SHALL BE OFF THE RECORD.
10:32:40AM THE COURT REPORTER'S NOTES SHALL BE FULLY TRANSCRIBED AND
10:32:46AM FILED WITH THE CLERK WITHIN A REASONABLE TIME AFTER THE
10:32:49AM MEETING.
10:32:49AM FOURTH REQUIREMENT IS THAT THE ENTITIES SHALL GIVE
10:32:52AM REASONABLE PUBLIC NOTICE OF THE TIME AND DATE OF THE
10:32:56AM ATTORNEY-CLIENT SESSION AND NAME OF PERSONS ATTENDING THE
10:32:59AM SESSION.
10:32:59AM I SPOKE WITH MR. SHELBY.
10:33:00AM HE ADVISED THIS COULD BE DONE ONE WEEK FROM TODAY, MARCH 23,
10:33:05AM 2023 AT 11:00 A.M.
10:33:08AM THAT MEET ALSO TAKE PLACE AT OLD CITY HALL AT THE 8th FLOOR
10:33:13AM CONFERENCE ROOM.
10:33:14AM AND EXPECTED LENGTH OF THE MEETING WILL BE ABOUT 45 MINUTES.
10:33:18AM INDIVIDUALS PRESENT WILL BE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, COUNCIL
10:33:22AM ATTORNEY MR. SHELBY, CITY ATTORNEY MISS ZELMAN, MYSELF, AND
10:33:26AM A COURT REPORTER.
10:33:27AM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE -- THE SESSION SHALL COMMENCE --
10:33:35AM THE CLOSED SESSION SHALL COMMENCE IN AN OPEN MEETING THAT
10:33:38AM WILL TAKE PLACE NEXT WEEK AT THE PERSON SHARING THE MEETING
10:33:41AM WILL ANNOUNCE THE COMMENCEMENT AND ESTIMATED LENGTH OF THE
10:33:44AM ATTORNEY-CLIENT SESSION WHICH IS ABOUT 45 MINUTES AND THE
10:33:47AM NAMES OF THE PERSONS ATTENDING, WHICH I JUST PROVIDED.
10:33:50AM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SESSION, THE MEETING SHALL BE
10:33:53AM REOPENED AND THE PERSON SHARING THE MEETING SHALL ANNOUNCE
10:33:56AM THE TERMINATION OF THE SESSION.
10:33:57AM THE LAST REQUIREMENT, AGAIN, THAT THE TRANSCRIPT WILL BE
10:34:01AM MADE PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD UPON CONCLUSION OF THE
10:34:05AM UNDERLYING LITIGATION, THE VAZO CASE.
10:34:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
10:34:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, BEFORE YOU ASK THE QUESTION, I
10:34:15AM WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT COUNCIL SHOULD AVOID ANY
10:34:18AM DISCUSSION OF MATTER WHERE THE CITY IS A PARTY OF LITIGATION
10:34:22AM WITHOUT THE CORE CURRENTS OF COUNCIL.
10:34:25AM MY SUGGESTION -- I AM CONCERNED OF DISCUSSION.
10:34:28AM I HAVE -- I DON'T KNOW WHETHER COUNCIL HAS IT IN FRONT OF
10:34:32AM YOU, WHOEVER IS GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION THE LANGUAGE THAT
10:34:35AM MR. HARVEY DRAFTED FOR THE PURPOSES OF FOLLOWING THE
10:34:41AM STATUTE.
10:34:41AM I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE THAT, BUT WHOEVER WOULD
10:34:45AM NEED A COPY I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO READ THE MOTION.
10:34:47AM WITH THAT BEING SAID, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS PERTAINING
10:34:51AM TO THE PROCESS?
10:34:53AM OR SOMETHING THAT RELATES TO THE LITIGATION, COUNCIL.
10:34:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:34:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS NOW.
10:35:02AM ONE IS TO YOU.
10:35:03AM THE MEDIA WILL ASK US WHEN THE MINUTES WILL BE AVAILABLE TO
10:35:08AM THE PUBLIC.
10:35:09AM SO YOU SAID IT WILL BE FILED AT A REASONABLE TIME AFTER THE
10:35:12AM MEETING.
10:35:12AM A CERTAIN LEGAL LOCKOUT PERIOD OR IS THERE -- WILL IT BE
10:35:17AM IMMEDIATELY AVAILABLE ONCE THEY ARE DONE.
10:35:21AM >> THE STATUTE REQUIRES A REASONABLE TIME.
10:35:24AM FROM MY EXPERIENCE, COURT REPORTERS CAN GET THIS DONE
10:35:27AM CERTAINLY WITHIN A WEEK.
10:35:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A QUESTION IS THAT THAT DOES NOT GET
10:35:32AM RELEASED UNTIL THE SETTLEMENT AND THE END OF THE LITIGATION,
10:35:36AM IS THAT CORRECT?
10:35:37AM >> YES, IT DOES NOT BECOME PUBLIC UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF
10:35:40AM THE LIT CALCULATION.
10:35:42AM THAT IS THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION.
10:35:44AM IT DOES NOT BECOME PUBLIC UNTIL THE LITIGATION IS INCLUDED.
10:35:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU READING IS OF COUNCILMEMBERS COMMENTING
10:35:51AM ON LITIGATION.
10:35:52AM CAN YOU TELL US WHERE YOU CITED AND WHAT IT SAID.
10:35:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SAYS EXACTLY ABOUT THIS.
10:35:57AM RULES 4 --
10:35:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURES.
10:36:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURES AND
10:36:05AM LONG-STANDING RULE, 4J, COUNCIL SHOULD AVOID OF ANY
10:36:09AM DISCUSSION OF MATTERS AT A PUBLIC MEETING WHERE THE CITY IS
10:36:12AM OR LIKELY TO BE A PARTY IN LITIGATION WITHOUT CONCURRENCE OF
10:36:16AM COUNCIL.
10:36:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY QUESTION -- THIS IS A DISCUSSION FOR
10:36:19AM ANOTHER DAY AND MAYBE I WILL MAKE A MOTION AT THE END OF THE
10:36:22AM SESSION.
10:36:22AM THE ONLY PARTIES I AM AWARE OF IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS THAT
10:36:25AM HAVE TALKED OUT OF SESSION ABOUT PENDING LITIGATION IS THE
10:36:29AM CITY ATTORNEY AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
10:36:31AM IN PARTICULAR, ABOUT THE GUDES CASE AND THE DINGFELDER CASES
10:36:35AM WHICH AT THE TIME I THOUGHT WAS INAPPROPRIATE AND VIOLATED
10:36:39AM BAR RULES.
10:36:40AM BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT AT SOME POINT THAT THE
10:36:44AM CITY ATTORNEY -- THE CITY COUNCIL AND CITY COUNCILMEMBERS BY
10:36:47AM CHARTER ARE -- ARE CLIENTS OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND SOMEHOW
10:36:53AM THE -- CITY COUNCIL CAN REFRAIN FROM DISCUSSING PEND
10:37:02AM LITIGATION AND THE CITY SHOULD NOT BE DISCUSSING LITIGATION
10:37:07AM IF IT MAKES THEM ACCOUNTABLE AND CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
10:37:10AM WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE PUSHING OUT
10:37:13AM INFORMATION IN ONE CASE RESULTED IN A SIX-FIGURE SETTLEMENT.
10:37:17AM I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP THIS
10:37:21AM LITIGATION AND OTHER LITIGATION CONFIDENTIAL AND BEING
10:37:27AM CRITICIZED TO SOME EXTENT BY THE PUBLIC AND MEDIA FOR DOING
10:37:32AM SO.
10:37:32AM WHEN WE TRY TO WORK IN GOOD FAITH AND BEING HIT WITH
10:37:36AM POTENTIAL LITIGATION, IT IS FRUSTRATING THAT OUR OWN
10:37:40AM ATTORNEYS AND OUR COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE STREET ARE SAYING --
10:37:43AM MAKING DISPARAGING AND DEFAMATORY REMARKS.
10:37:46AM THANK YOU.
10:37:47AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:37:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, I STRONGLY SUGGEST WE MOVE THIS FORWARD.
10:37:52AM PEOPLE ARE -- THEY CAN SPEAK AS THEY WISH, ETC.
10:38:00AM MOVE THIS FORWARD.
10:38:00AM NARROWLY TAILORED THIS ONE CASE AND MAKES SENSE AND WHAT
10:38:06AM NOT.
10:38:06AM IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING.
10:38:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH YOU MR. VIERA AND 1/8 OF
10:38:18AM ELECTED OFFICIALS.
10:38:19AM THIS ONE WILL KEEP IT QUIET TO MYSELF.
10:38:22AM THE ONLY OF MIND CONVERSATION.
10:38:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOTION TO ADD TO THE MARCH 23, 2023, TO BE
10:38:30AM HELD AT 11 A.M. IN THE 8th FLOOR CONFERENCE ROOM OF OLD CITY
10:38:35AM HALL IN ORDER TO DISCUSS SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS IN THE CASE
10:38:38AM VAZO VERSUS THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH ATTENDANCE LIMITED TO
10:38:43AM MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, CITY ATTORNEY MARTIN SHELBY, CITY
10:38:47AM ATTORNEY ANDREA ZELMAN, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY DAVID HARVEY
10:38:50AM AND A CERTIFIED COURT REPORTER.
10:38:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:38:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:38:56AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:38:58AM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
10:39:00AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:39:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT BEHOOVES ME
10:39:06AM WE DO THINGS WHEN WE WANT TO DO THINGS AND DO THINGS IN THE
10:39:14AM APPROPRIATE MATTER.
10:39:16AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING UP.
10:39:21AM WE DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO AT TIMES.
10:39:23AM I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT TODAY AND I HAVE BEEN IN SHADE
10:39:30AM LITIGATION BEFORE.
10:39:30AM BEHOOVES ME YOU PAY OUT OTHERS AND DO OTHER THINGS IN AN
10:39:34AM APPROPRIATE MANNER.
10:39:37AM I AM GOING TO SUPPORT IT, BUT THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT
10:39:41AM UP, SIR, YOU ARE CORRECT.
10:39:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:39:48AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:39:50AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:39:51AM OPPOSED?
10:39:52AM MOTION PASSES.
10:39:53AM I JUST RECEIVED A NOTE FROM OUR CITY CLERK ASKING IF WE
10:39:56AM COULD TAKES 86-93 FIRST BEFORE WE GO INTO STAFF REPORTS.
10:40:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS FINE.
10:40:13AM SO MOVED.
10:40:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:40:18AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:40:19AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:40:21AM OPPOSED?
10:40:24AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:40:25AM MAKE A MOTION.
10:40:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO OPEN ALL THE 9:30s.
10:40:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:40:31AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:40:33AM ALL IN FAVOR.
10:40:34AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:40:35AM ANYONE GIVING ANY TYPE OF TESTIMONIES TODAY, WILL YOU PLEASE
10:40:39AM RISE TO BE SWORN IN NOBODY GIVING ANY KIND OF TESTIMONY
10:40:47AM THROUGH AGENDA ITEM 96-93.
10:40:51AM PLEASE STAND TO BE SWORN IN.
10:40:52AM [SWEARING IN]
10:41:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: TAKE ITEM NUMBER 86, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA
10:41:11AM 22-80.
10:41:12AM MR. COLLINS, I DID SEE WHY YOU ARE HAND UP
10:41:17AM TO BE SWORN IN.
10:41:18AM >>DANNY COLLINS: I DID.
10:41:19AM I WAS SWORN IN.
10:41:20AM TODAY I WILL BE PRESENTING TA/CPA 22-08, AMENDMENT AMENDING
10:41:27AM THE 2040 TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO AMEND ONE WATER
10:41:32AM COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING FOR WATER RESOURCE TO REPLACE THE
10:41:35AM POTABLE WATER, WASTEWATER AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT
10:41:38AM SECTIONS.
10:41:39AM YOU HEARD THE ITEM ON FIRST READING CONSIDERING FOR FEBRUARY
10:41:43AM 23 AND VOTED TO APPROVE IT FOR SECOND READING.
10:41:52AM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:41:54AM ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:41:56AM SEEING NONE.
10:41:56AM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM
10:41:59AM NUMBER 86, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 22-08.
10:42:07AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:42:10AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:42:12AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:42:16AM THANK YOU.
10:42:18AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:42:19AM >>BILL CARLSON: NUMBER 86.
10:42:22AM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE 86, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA
10:42:27AM 22-08.
10:42:28AM ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
10:42:31AM ORDINANCE AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
10:42:34AM PLAN TO AMEND ONE WATER COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING FOR WATER
10:42:38AM RESOURCES REPLACES THE POTABLE WATER, WASTEWATER AND
10:42:42AM STORMWATER.
10:42:43AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:42:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:42:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:42:53AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:43:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 87, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA
10:43:10AM 22-12.
10:43:10AM >>DANNY COLLINS: DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION
10:43:12AM STAFF.
10:43:13AM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
10:43:14AM I WILL BE PRESENTING TA/CPA 22-12.
10:43:19AM LOCATED 5215 WEST TYSON AVENUE FOR SECOND READING TO CHANGE
10:43:24AM FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND
10:43:30AM USE DESIGNATION.
10:43:30AM YOU HEARD THIS ITEM AT YOUR HEARINGS ON FEBRUARY 23, AND YOU
10:43:34AM VOTED TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE.
10:43:36AM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:43:38AM I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:43:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:43:43AM SEEING NONE, ANYONE IN CHAMBERS THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
10:43:45AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 87, FILE NUMBER TA/CPA 22-12.
10:43:51AM SEEING NONE.
10:43:53AM ANYONE ONLINE?
10:43:56AM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:43:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:44:00AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:01AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:44:04AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:44:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENT FOR SECOND READING
10:44:09AM AND ADOPTION AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
10:44:13AM PLAN FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP FOR THE
10:44:17AM PROPERTY 5215 WEST TYSON AVENUE FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO
10:44:21AM COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
10:44:25AM ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT.
10:44:27AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING A EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:44:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:34AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:44:36AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:44:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 88, FILE
10:44:45AM NUMBER TA/CPA 22-27.
10:44:50AM >>DANNY COLLINS: DANNY COLLINS, AGAIN, WITH YOUR PLANNING
10:44:53AM COMMISSION STAFF.
10:44:53AM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN AND PRESENTING TA/CPA 22-27 FOR
10:44:58AM PROPERTIES LOCATED 5012 AND 5006 EAST 97th AVENUE.
10:45:04AM AND MULTIPLE FOLIOS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE REQUEST.
10:45:09AM TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE TO RESIDENTIAL-10 TO
10:45:13AM RESIDENTIAL-35.
10:45:13AM YOU HEARD THIS ITEM AT YOUR HEARING ON FEBRUARY 23 AND BACK
10:45:18AM BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READINGS.
10:45:20AM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND AVAILABLE FOR ANY
10:45:24AM QUESTIONS.
10:45:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:45:28AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO FILE NUMBER TA/CPA
10:45:32AM 22-27?
10:45:34AM SEEING NONE.
10:45:35AM ANYONE ONLINE.
10:45:37AM >>CLERK: NO ONE ONLINE.
10:45:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:45:41AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:45:43AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:45:45AM THANK YOU.
10:45:45AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:45:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND
10:45:48AM ADOPTION AMENDING THE IMAGINE 2040: TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
10:45:52AM FUTURE ELEMENT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED 5012 AND 5006 EAST
10:45:58AM 97 th AVENUE FOLIO NUMBERS 142830.5025, 142830.50/50, FROM
10:46:14AM RESIDENTIAL-10, R-10, TO RESIDENTIAL-35, R-35, PROVIDING FOR
10:46:20AM REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR
10:46:25AM SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:46:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:46:29AM ALL IN FAVOR -- EXCUSE ME, PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:46:38AM >CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH HURTAK AND VIERA VOTING NO.
10:46:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 89.
10:46:45AM VAC-22-26.
10:46:55AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 89.
10:46:58AM VAC-22-26.
10:47:02AM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE?
10:47:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:22AM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND TO BE SWORN IN.
10:47:24AM [SWEARING IN}
10:47:30AM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:47:34AM AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING PROPOSED VACATING
10:47:39AM TO VACATE ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF ESTELLE, NORTH OF
10:47:43AM HENDERSON, EAST OF MARION AND WEST OF MOBLEY STREET WITHIN
10:47:48AM THE SUBDIVISION.
10:47:49AM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:47:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAMONS.
10:47:54AM >> ALEC SCHALER AT 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
10:47:57AM I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AND
10:48:03AM RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL TODAY.
10:48:05AM THANKS.
10:48:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:48:08AM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO FILE
10:48:12AM NUMBER VAC 22-26?
10:48:16AM >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
10:48:19AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:48:20AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN -- I HAVE REVIEWED THE TAPE.
10:48:30AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:48:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER VAC-22-26, ORDINANCE FOR SECOND
10:48:37AM READING AND ADOPTION, FOR VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING
10:48:41AM AND ABANDONING THE ALLEY WAY LOCATED NORTH OF ESTELLE
10:48:46AM STREET, SOUTH OF HENDERSON AVENUE, EAST OF MARION STREET AND
10:48:50AM WEST OF MORGAN STREET WITHIN THE PLAN OF MOBLEY'S
10:48:54AM SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
10:48:57AM FLORIDA, AS FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO
10:49:02AM CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE
10:49:06AM PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HERE IN PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND
10:49:12AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:49:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND SECONDED
10:49:19AM BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:20AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:49:22AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:49:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 90, FILE
10:49:31AM NUMBER REZ-22-116.
10:49:32AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL AND CHAIRMAN.
10:49:36AM LaCHONE DOCK.
10:49:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
10:49:44AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: I HAVE, YES.
10:49:46AM THE NEXT ITEM 22-116 IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING FOR
10:49:51AM THE PROPERTY BOUNDED BY HENDERSON AVENUE TO THE NORTH,
10:49:54AM MORGAN STREET TO THE EAST.
10:49:56AM FLORIDA AVENUE TO THE WEST AND ESTELLE STREET TO THE SOUTH.
10:50:01AM THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RM-24, CI AND PD
10:50:06AM TO A PD FOR RESIDENTIAL AND STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL USES, FOR
10:50:13AM COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL AND
10:50:15AM MULTIFAMILY.
10:50:16AM AND CHANGES ARE REQUIRED TO BE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN BEFORE
10:50:20AM FIRST AND SECOND READING.
10:50:21AM THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND THE PLANS ARE PROVIDED TO
10:50:24AM THE CLERK.
10:50:24AM THE AGENT FOR THIS PROPERTY IS ALEC SCHALER.
10:50:28AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL.
10:50:31AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
10:50:34AM PETITIONER?
10:50:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:50:38AM ALEC SCHALER.
10:50:39AM 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
10:50:41AM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
10:50:42AM SAME AS LaCHONE, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND
10:50:47AM RESPECT YOUR APPROVAL TODAY.
10:50:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:50:52AM SEEING NONE, ANY QUESTIONS -- ANY COMMENTS IN CHAMBERS FOR
10:50:57AM FILE NUMBER REZ-22-116, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 09?
10:51:06AM >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
10:51:10AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE WE CLOSE, A RESOLUTION THAT NEEDS TO
10:51:14AM BE READ.
10:51:14AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:51:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THOUGHT THE RESOLUTION HAD TO BE READ
10:51:20AM BEFORE WE CLOSE.
10:51:21AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CLOSE THE ABOUT PUBLIC HEARING.
10:51:24AM READ THE TITLE.
10:51:25AM VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE AND AFTER THAT IS -- ASSUMING THAT
10:51:28AM PASSES, THEN YOU MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:51:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE, PLEASE.
10:51:33AM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:51:35AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:51:37AM ALL IN FAVOR.
10:51:38AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:51:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: REZ-22-116.
10:51:42AM ORDINANCE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:51:45AM ORDER THAT IN REZONING PROPERTY IN 1503 AND 1505 NORTH
10:51:50AM FLORIDA AVENUE.
10:51:50AM 1601, 04, 05, 07, 13 AND 15 NORTH MARION TREAT.
10:51:58AM 1602, 1604, 1606 AND 1608 NORTH MORGAN STREET IN THE CITY OF
10:52:07AM TAMPA, AND CLASSIFICATION, CI COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO RM-24
10:52:13AM TO PD AND TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESIDENTIAL AND
10:52:20AM STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE PROVIDE AN
10:52:23AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:52:24AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECONDED BY
10:52:27AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:52:28AM AGAIN, I HAVE REVIEWED THIS CASE AND I CAN MAKE AN UNBIASED
10:52:33AM DETERMINATION.
10:52:33AM PLEASE PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:52:36AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:52:44AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:52:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY
10:52:49AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:52:49AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:52:51AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:52:52AM OPPOSE?
10:52:53AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:52:54AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 91, FILE NUMBER AB 2-23-06.
10:53:02AM >>ANNIE BARNES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:53:03AM ANNIE BARNES, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:53:05AM AGENDA ITEM 71 IS AB2-23-06 SECOND READING FOR SPECIAL USE
10:53:12AM 2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
10:53:16AM PREMISE AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE FOR BEER, WINE AND
10:53:21AM LIQUOR AT 6401 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE.
10:53:23AM SITE PLANS WERE DROPPED OFF EARLIER THIS WEEK, AND I AM
10:53:28AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:53:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTION FOR STAFF?
10:53:32AM PETITIONER?
10:53:33AM >> YES, SIR, I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
10:53:35AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
10:53:38AM SEEING NONE.
10:53:38AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM
10:53:41AM NUMBER 19, FILE NUMBER AB 2-23-06.
10:53:47AM >>CLERK: NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
10:53:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOVE TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:53:52AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:53:54AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:53:55AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:53:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER AB 2-23-06, FOR SECOND
10:54:05AM READING AND ADOPTION.
10:54:06AM ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
10:54:10AM SALES SMALL VENUE AND PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISE, BEER, WINE
10:54:16AM AND LIQUOR AT OR FROM A CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACK OF LAND
10:54:20AM 6401 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
10:54:23AM SECTION 3 PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES AND PARTS OF
10:54:26AM ORDINANCES ARE REPEALED PROVIDING FOR ORDINANCE 2013-106
10:54:32AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:54:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:54:37AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:54:39AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:54:41AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CITRO VOTING NO.
10:54:46AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 92.
10:54:48AM FILE NUMBER AB 2-23-07.
10:54:52AM >>ANNIE BARNES: ANNIE BARNES, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:54:57AM ITEM NUMBER 92, AB 2-23-07 FOR SECOND READING FOR SPECIAL
10:55:04AM USE PERMIT FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SMALL VENUE, PREMISE ONLY,
10:55:09AM FOR BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR LOCATED 4308 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD.
10:55:15AM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN DROPPED OFF AND AIM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
10:55:19AM QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
10:55:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:55:22AM RYAN MANASSE.
10:55:25AM WE ARE HERE FOR THE APPLICANT AND REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL
10:55:27AM AND AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:55:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MANASSE?
10:55:36AM THANK YOU.
10:55:36AM ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WISHING TO SPEAK TO NUMBER 92, FILE
10:55:41AM NUMBER AB 2-23-07.
10:55:44AM SEEING NONE.
10:55:45AM ANYONE ON ONLINE.
10:55:47AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:55:49AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:55:51AM ALL IN FAVOR.
10:55:52AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:55:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FILE NUMBER -- YOU
10:55:56AM NUMBER 29, FILE NUMBER AB 2-23-07, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
10:56:03AM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:56:04AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR ALCOHOLIC
10:56:10AM BEVERAGE SALES SMALL EVENTUAL SUE AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE
10:56:15AM OF BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR AT THAT LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND
10:56:19AM LOCATED 4308 WEST GANDY BOULEVARD AND ALL ORDINANCES ARE
10:56:24AM REPEALED -- REPEALING AB 1-18-35 PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:56:32AM DATE.
10:56:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:56:35AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:56:37AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:56:38AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY UP.
10:56:50AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 39 ABOUT, FILE NUMBER E
10:56:54AM 2023-8 CHAPTER 27.
10:56:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS 10:30.
10:57:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:57:06AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:57:08AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 93 ALREADY FILE NUMBER E 2023-8 CHAPTER
10:57:14AM 27.
10:57:14AM MR. COTTON.
10:57:16AM >>ERIC COTTON: PROPOSED ORDINANCE HERE FOR SECOND READING.
10:57:19AM FIRST READING MARCH 3.
10:57:22AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER
10:57:25AM THEM FOR YOU.
10:57:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. COTTON.
10:57:28AM SEEING NONE, ANYONE IN CHAMBERS WISH TO SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM
10:57:34AM NUMBER 93, FILE E 2023-8 CHAPTER 27.
10:57:40AM ANYONE ONLINE?
10:57:43AM MOVE TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:57:44AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:57:45AM ALL IN FAVOR.
10:57:47AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:57:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ORDINANCE OF SECOND READING AND
10:57:51AM ADOPTION FOR ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA RELATED TO
10:57:56AM PUBLICALLY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS OF CHAPTER 27 AMENDING
10:58:02AM 27-60, ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION.
10:58:05AM AMENDING SECTION 27-181.2 COMPLIANCE.
10:58:09AM ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY, GENERAL PROCEDURES, AMENDING
10:58:13AM SECTION 27-241, WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT
10:58:18AM STANDARDS.
10:58:18AM AND AMENDING 27-283.12 OFF-STREET PARKING SPACES PROVIDING
10:58:24AM FOR REPEAL OF ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT
10:58:27AM THERE BE PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:58:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECONDED BY
10:58:34AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:58:35AM PLACE YOUR VOTES AND RECORD.
10:58:36AM >>CLERK: CLERK MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:58:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU EVERYONE IN CHAMBERS FOR YOUR
10:58:49AM PATIENCE ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NUMBER PW 23-80 254.
10:58:58AM >> ERIC WEISS, WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT.
10:59:03AM I'M HERE TO TALK WITH ITEM NUMBER 4 AND 5 ARE TOGETHER WITH
10:59:06AM THE ONGOING IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR MASTER PLAN AT THE
10:59:11AM HOWARD F. CURREN TREATMENT PLANT UNDER THE PIPES PROGRAM.
10:59:15AM WHEN THEY WERE DEVELOPING THE PIPES PROGRAM, WE HAD AN
10:59:18AM INDEPENDENT ENGINEERING CONSULTANT LOOK AT MANY THINGS IN
10:59:22AM OUR TREATMENT PLAN.
10:59:22AM ONE OF THEM LOOK AT FUTURE REGULATIONS.
10:59:25AM SHOULD WE BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT, COULD WE.
10:59:27AM LOOK AT FLOWS.
10:59:28AM A LOT MORE PEOPLE COMING TO TAMPA.
10:59:30AM DO WE HAVE TO BUILD IN MORE CAPACITY TO THE TREATMENT PLANT.
10:59:34AM LOOKING AT TECHNOLOGY.
10:59:37AM NEW TECHNOLOGY OF A PLANT WITH A GOOD HIS CASE HOW WE TREAT
10:59:42AM WATER, AND FINALLY A DETAILED ASSESSMENT OF THE PLAN FOR THE
10:59:47AM CONTINUE OF IT.
10:59:48AM WHEN THAT WAS ALL SAID AND DONE, THE FINDING OF THE MASTER
10:59:52AM PLAN WERE, WE HAVE PLENTY OF CAPACITY OVER THIS 20-YEAR
10:59:55AM WINDOW.
10:59:56AM NO REAL CHANGES TO OUR TREATMENT PROCESS BECAUSE THERE WAS
11:00:00AM NO BUSINESS CASE TO DO THAT.
11:00:02AM THE REGULATIONS WERE WELL POISED FOR SOME OF THE ONES THAT
11:00:07AM WE KNOW MAY BE COMING THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE
11:00:10AM THOSE, BUT THE BIG THING WAS, OUR TREATMENT PLANT THAT WAS
11:00:14AM CONSTRUCTED IN THE 1950s.
11:00:16AM EXPANDED IN THE 1970s IS VERY OLD AND MUCH OF THE PUMPS,
11:00:21AM PIPES AND CONCRETE ARE BEYOND ITS IT USEFUL LIFE.
11:00:24AM WHAT THE MASTER PLAN DID LOOK AT A 20-YEAR WINDOW OF A
11:00:28AM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
11:00:29AM THEY DID THAT AND $577 MILLION OVER THE 20-YEAR PERIOD.
11:00:34AM SO TO TRY TO TACKLE THAT, WE BROKE IT UP INTO PHASES.
11:00:38AM AND WE AWARDED A DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACT FOR PHASE ONE TO A
11:00:46AM DESIGN BUILDER TAKE THE FIRST SIX YEARS $240 MILLION.
11:00:50AM TO DATE, COUNCIL AND THE CITY APPROVED $54 MILLION OF THAT
11:00:55AM INITIAL PHASE ONE AND MOSTLY DESIGNED, PERMITTING, PLANNING.
11:01:01AM WE HAVE AWARDED ONE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT ALREADY A GMP THAT
11:01:08AM IS JUST ABOUT DONE AND THE FACILITY SHOULD BE COMING ON LINE
11:01:14AM AND THIS WAS A SLUDGE DEWATERING BUILDING AND TREAT OUR
11:01:19AM SLUDGE SHIFT FOR LAND FOR OSCEOLA AND POLK COUNTY.
11:01:24AM THE ISSUE IS ONLY 5% SOLID.
11:01:26AM DON'T WANT TOP GET INTO TOO MUCH ENGINEERING BUT 90% WATER.
11:01:31AM AND A THREE CONTINUE STORY CENTRIFUGE WHERE THE SLUDGE GOES
11:01:35AM IN, SPIN FASTEST FAST AND INCREASING PERCENTAGE OF SOLIDS
11:01:41AM FROM FIVE TO 23.
11:01:42AM THE REASON IT IS IMPORTANT, WE PAY BY THE TON TO TRUCK IT
11:01:46AM INTO HAD OSCEOLA AND POLK COUNTY.
11:01:48AM IF WE CAN GET AS MUCH WATER OUT OF IT, WE WILL PAY LESS FOR
11:01:52AM THAT PROCESS.
11:01:53AM AGAIN THAT WILL BE ON LINE IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
11:01:55AM AND THAT INITIAL GMP INCLUDED SUSTAINABILITY ISSUE.
11:02:01AM WE HAVE A STAND-BY GENERATOR FACILITY IS THE PLANT IN CASE
11:02:07AM WE LOSE POWER.
11:02:07AM THE BIG THING ABOUT THAT IS WE IT ONLY HAD ONE DAY OF
11:02:12AM STANDBY FUEL.
11:02:13AM IF A HURRICANE WAS TO COME, THAT WILL BE SHORT ORDER TO GET
11:02:16AM ALL THAT DIESEL THAT WE NEED THIS PROJECTS THAT 60,000
11:02:25AM GALLONS OF DIESEL FUEL TO RUN THE PLANT AT HOWARD CURREN UP
11:02:30AM TO FIVE DAYS.
11:02:31AM TALK ABOUT ITEM FOUR AND FIVE.
11:02:34AM FIVE IS A $77 MILLION GMP.
11:02:36AM WE CALL IN NUMBER TWO.
11:02:38AM WHAT THAT IS IS AT THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, THERE ARE
11:02:42AM THREE MAIN TREATMENT PROCESS: PRIMARY TREATMENT, SECONDARY
11:02:47AM TREATMENT AND ADVANCED.
11:02:48AM THE MIDDLE ONE, SECONDARY TREATMENT, REMOVING THE ORGANICS
11:02:53AM FROM THE WASTEWATER, ALSO KNOWN AS CARBON.
11:02:55AM THE BACKBONE OF THE TREATMENT PLANT AND THAT $77 MILLION
11:02:59AM WILL COMPLETELY REHAB THAT WHOLE PROCESS.
11:03:02AM A GOOD THING ABOUT THAT IS, WHEN THIS WAS BUILT IN THE
11:03:07AM 1970s, THE PUMPS THAT HAVE TO PUMP MAY BE OVER 200 MILLION
11:03:10AM OF GALLONS A DAY IN WET WEATHER WERE ALL CONSTRUCTED IN A
11:03:14AM BASEMENT UNDERGROUND.
11:03:15AM WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
11:03:16AM WE ARE SUSCEPTIBLE TO SEA LEVEL RISE AND IF A HURRICANE
11:03:21AM COMES AND FLOODING THAT.
11:03:21AM IF THAT EVER HAPPENED, IT WOULD TAKE OVERTAKE WASTEWATER
11:03:28AM FLOWS FOR A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME BEFORE WE BRING IN
11:03:31AM NEW PUMPS TO REPLACE THOSE.
11:03:32AM WHAT DOES THIS 77 MILLION DO, RAISES IN THE BASEMENT ABOVE
11:03:42AM 13 FEET MINIMUM IN A NEW BUILDING.
11:03:45AM ANOTHER THING ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS EVO PARTICIPATION.
11:03:49AM WE GOT 21% PARTICIPATION.
11:03:51AM 11% OF THAT IS BLACK BUSINESS.
11:03:54AM 10% SBOE.
11:03:56AM WITH THAT I CAN GO ON TO NUMBER FOUR WHICH IS RELATED TO
11:03:59AM THIS NUMBER FOUR IS JUST ADDITIONAL DESIGN WORK.
11:04:04AM AGAIN, WE HAVE A LOT OF ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT THAT WAS BUILT
11:04:08AM IN 1970s AT VARIOUS PLACES THROUGHOUT THE TREATMENT PLANT
11:04:12AM AND THEY ARE ALL BEYOND THEIR SERVICE LIGHT.
11:04:15AM WILL BE RAISED -- REPLACING THAT AND REPLACING IT ABOVE 13%.
11:04:20AM ONE MORE THING ABOUT THAT IS, IT HAS CONTINGENCY IN THERE AS
11:04:25AM PART OF THE $6.9 MILLION.
11:04:27AM WE ARE EXPERIENCING EXTREMELY LARGE WAIT TIMES FOR
11:04:31AM EQUIPMENT, ESPECIALLY LARGE EQUIPMENT WITH ELECTRICAL GEAR
11:04:34AM AND PUMPS, 50 MILLION A GALLON PUMPS.
11:04:38AM WHAT WE ARE DOING WHEN THE DESIGN IS HALFWAY DONE AND WE
11:04:41AM ZERO IN ON WHAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WE ARE GOING TO DO, THE
11:04:45AM CONTRACTOR IS THEN GOING TO GO OUT, DO A SUBCONTRACTING AND
11:04:48AM WE CAN BUY THAT EQUIPMENT BECAUSE IT IS TAKING OVER TWO
11:04:51AM YEARS TO GET SIMPLE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT.
11:04:54AM THAT WILL SAVE US MONEY BECAUSE AS SOON AS THE NOTICE TO
11:04:58AM PROCEED IS AWARDED, WE WILL GET THAT CONTRACTOR GOING
11:05:01AM QUICKLY.
11:05:01AM ANOTHER GOOD POINT ABOUT THAT ONE IS THE EBO PARTICIPATION
11:05:06AM ON ITEM NUMBER 4 IS 42%.
11:05:08AM 40% OF THAT IS BLACK BUSINESS.
11:05:10AM 32% IS OTHER.
11:05:15AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER.
11:05:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO KNOW WHO CAN PROGRAM YOU AND
11:05:22AM SPEAK SO WELL WITH ONE FACTS AND WENT BACK TO THE 70s FOR 50
11:05:27AM YEARS AGO.
11:05:27AM I BELIEVE THAT MAYOR GRECO WAS IN OFFICE THROUGH '74.
11:05:32AM HE SAID NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO AND EXPAND THE PLANT.
11:05:35AM I WOULD IMAGINE YOU HAVE CAPACITY OF OVER 30 MILLION OR SO
11:05:38AM GALLONS?
11:05:40AM >> YEAH, SO WE ARE PERMITTED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA TO
11:05:43AM DISCHARGE, ON AVERAGE, 96 MILLION GALLONS A DAY.
11:05:50AM THE LAST 30 YEARS 60.
11:05:52AM WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM?
11:05:55AM TWO POINTS.
11:05:56AM TRACE OF INFLOW AND GROUND WATER AND STORMWATER COMING IN
11:06:02AM THE WASTEWATER PLANTS THAT GO TO THE PLANT AND WE HAVE TO
11:06:05AM TREAT IT.
11:06:05AM THE OTHER THING IS WATER IS A COMMODITY NOW.
11:06:08AM THE USAGE PER PERSON PER DAY IS PLUMMETED MEANING THAT
11:06:14AM PEOPLE ARE USING LESS WATER.
11:06:15AM LESS OF IT WILL COME INTO THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM.
11:06:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR ONE, I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF
11:06:21AM EVERYTHING YOU HAVE CONTINUE TO FROM BRINGING NOW THE
11:06:23AM UNDERGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT YOU HAVE, THE ELECTRICAL AND
11:06:25AM OTHER STUFF.
11:06:26AM TAMPA GENERAL HAS DONE THAT SOME YEARS BACK AND GOES UP TO
11:06:30AM THE THIRD FLOOR, I BELIEVE.
11:06:32AM DOING THE SAME THING.
11:06:34AM KUDOS OF YOU AND YOUR OPERATION.
11:06:36AM HOW MANY ADVANCE TREATMENT PLANTS IN THE AREA?
11:06:39AM >> ONLY ONE OTHER ONE IN ST. PETE.
11:06:42AM WHAT OTHER ST. PETE AND PINELLAS COUNTY STOP AT THE
11:06:49AM TREATMENT PLANT.
11:06:49AM NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT BUT THEY THEN DISPOSE OF IT IN OTHER
11:06:53AM WAYS THROUGH INJECTION AND RECLAIMED SYSTEM.
11:06:57AM TAMPA IN THE 1970s SAY ADVANCE TREATMENT REMOVAL OF NITROGEN
11:07:02AM BEFORE IT GETS DISCHARGED IN THE BAY.
11:07:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF US AND
11:07:08AM THE PUBLIC OF COURSE, YOU HAVE SAVING THE ENVIRONMENT AND
11:07:12AM MONEY AND EVERYTHING 50 YEARS OLD NEEDS A TUNE-UP ONE IN A
11:07:17AM WHILE.
11:07:18AM I HAD FOUR OF THEM.
11:07:19AM ONLY A JOKE.
11:07:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:07:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TOP ECHO.
11:07:29AM YOU DID IT ALL BY MEMORY WITHOUT SLIDES, AND TO -- MR.
11:07:32AM BENNETT, WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SUMMARIES AND TRANSPARENCY
11:07:41AM AND I THINK THAT FORMAT EXACTLY GETS IT.
11:07:43AM IT HAS ALL THE KEY INFORMATION PREVENTED ME FROM ASKING THE
11:07:48AM QUESTIONS I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO ASK, BUT THAT THE PUBLIC
11:07:51AM AND MEDIA.
11:07:52AM $520 MILLION OVER THE --
11:07:56AM >> $577 MILLION OVER THE 20 YEARS.
11:07:59AM WE NEED TO BREAK THAT DOWN.
11:08:00AM WE CAN'T DO THAT ALL AT ONCE.
11:08:02AM WE TOOK THE FIRST SIX YEARS, ABOUT $254 MILLION.
11:08:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF THE IMPORTANT NUMBERS.
11:08:09AM I WANT TO KNOW THE CONTEXT.
11:08:11AM THAT IS ONE OF THE REQUEST HE IS THEY ASK.
11:08:12AM THAT WAS EXCELLENT.
11:08:14AM TWO OTHER QUESTIONS RELATED TO IT.
11:08:17AM NUMBER ONE, ANY DESIGN OR ENGINEERING CONNECTED TO PURE OR
11:08:20AM TO CONVERT THIS WATER TO POTABLE USE?
11:08:24AM >> NO, IT IS REALLY JUST REPLACEMENT OF EXISTING FACILITIES.
11:08:27AM I SAID WE WENT THROUGH THE MASTER PLAN.
11:08:29AM WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS, WITH OUR CONSULTANT, EVERYTHING IS
11:08:34AM JUST OLD.
11:08:35AM NOT ADDING ANY CAPACITY OR CHANGING ANYTHING IN THE
11:08:38AM WASTEWATER TREATMENT PROCESS.
11:08:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: FROM THE PLAN, WITH THE RATES GOING UP,
11:08:48AM PEOPLE UNDERSTAND 50 OR 60 OR 100 YEARS OLD IT NEEDS TO BE
11:08:54AM REPLACED.
11:08:54AM SETTING EXPECT HOW MUCH IT WILL COST AT WHAT PACE AND SO WE
11:08:59AM ARE NOT DOING ANY FRIVOLOUS.
11:09:03AM CHIEF OF STAFF IS WORKING ON CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
11:09:07AM A LOT CONCERNS OF OPEN-ENDED CONTRACTS, AT LEAST I WOULD
11:09:11AM LIKE TO PREVENT A SITUATION LIKE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE HANNA
11:09:14AM AVENUE CONTRACT WHERE THERE WAS AN OPEN-ENDED CONSIDERED
11:09:19AM 2015 THAT SOMEHOW WAS JUSTIFIED TO BE A $220 MILLION
11:09:25AM CONTRACT, AND ALSO, THERE ARE -- THERE ARE SUGGESTIONS FROM
11:09:28AM THE COMMUNITY THAT ON 1078 PROGRAMS, MULTIPLE LEVELS OF
11:09:33AM BUREAUCRACY AND CONSULTANTS.
11:09:35AM ON PIPES, FOLKS SAID FIVE TO SIX DIFFERENT LEVELS OF PEOPLE
11:09:40AM MAKING MONEY ON A PROJECT INSTEAD OF GOING STRAIGHT TO A
11:09:43AM SUBCONTRACTOR.
11:09:44AM ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THIS?
11:09:46AM IF WE ARE APPROVING SOMETHING.
11:09:47AM I KNOW WE WILL APPROVE IT IN TWO WEEKS, BUT ANYTHING HERE
11:09:50AM THAT WOULD ALLOW AN OPEN-ENDED CONTRACT THAT SOMEBODY CAN
11:09:54AM TAKE WHATEVER -- $77 MILLION AND TURN INTO $330 MILLION
11:09:58AM WITHOUT OUR APPROVAL?
11:10:00AM >> NO.
11:10:00AM WE DID THE SOLICITATION FOR THE DESIGN BUILDER.
11:10:03AM THERE IS A DESIGN CRITERIA PACKAGE AND WE LAID OUT EXACTLY
11:10:09AM WHAT THOSE SIX YEARS OF PROJECTS WILL BE AND THE THEREAFTER
11:10:12AM AMOUNT, AND OUR INTENTION WILL BE WHEN WE HIT THAT 254
11:10:22AM MILLION SOLICIT FOR A DESIGN BUILDER AND MAKE PRESENTATIONS.
11:10:26AM DONE WITH THAT FIRST CHUNKS.
11:10:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH HANNA AVENUE MORE CHANGE ORDERS.
11:10:31AM THE CONTRACT MORE OPEN-ENDED THAT THE CITY CAN SAY WE
11:10:34AM DECIDED TO ADD SUCH AND SUCH BECAUSE IT WAS ANTICIPATED.
11:10:37AM THE HANNA AVENUE THE CNA ANALYSIS THAT MY ATTORNEY SAY IS
11:10:43AM NOT VALID, BUT ANYWAY, THE -- IF IT HAS A WORD IN IT THAT
11:10:48AM ANTICIPATES POTABLE WATER USE, FOR EXAMPLE.
11:10:50AM COULD THE CITY MAKE A CHANGE ORDER AND SAY, WELL, NOW WE ARE
11:10:54AM PUSHING PURE SO WE ARE GOING TO APPROVE AN EXTRA $200
11:10:58AM MILLION TO TREAT IT FOR POTABLE USE OR TIGHT THEY CAN'T GO
11:11:05AM BEYOND THAT?
11:11:07AM >> IT IS REALLY TIGHT AND WE ARE LOOKING AHEAD WHAT PHASE
11:11:10AM TWO WILL BE.
11:11:10AM WE MAY NOT DO A DESIGN-BUILD AND MAY GO TO A DESIGN BID BILL
11:11:16AM BECAUSE THE DOLLARS ARE LESS.
11:11:18AM THE REMAINING FUNDS OF THE $250 MILLION WILL BE LEFT.
11:11:22AM MAY BE SUITABLE TO DO THAT IN A DIFFERENT PROJECT DELIVERY
11:11:26AM METHOD LIKE TRADITIONAL DESIGN BID BUILD.
11:11:31AM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE AS THE PROJECT PRO CONGRESSES.
11:11:37AM NO CONCERN OF ENDED CONTRACTS.
11:11:40AM THEY ARE WORRY OF MULTIPLE LEVELS OF BUREAUCRACY AND WORRIED
11:11:45AM ABOUT GOVERNMENT WASTE.
11:11:46AM MR. BENNETT AND MISS DUNCAN, WITH I THINK THE PRESENTATION
11:11:52AM AND THE ANSWERS HE GAVE GIVES ME CONFIDENCE HE IS ON TOP OF
11:11:56AM THE NUMBERS AND OUR DEPARTMENT IS ON TOP OF THE NUMBERS YOU
11:12:05AM SEEM TO BE ON TOP OF TAX DOLLARS WHICH ARE IMPORTANT THESE
11:12:10AM DAYS IF WE ARE GOING TO RECESSION.
11:12:11AM FOLKS ARE COUNTING EVERY PENNY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
11:12:16AM USING IT WISELY.
11:12:16AM THANKS FOR THE QUICK AND THOROUGH PRESENTATION.
11:12:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:12:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO ECHO MY COLLEAGUES' APPRECIATION OF
11:12:28AM THE DIRECT EXPLANATION.
11:12:29AM I HAVE BEEN OUT TO TOUR THE WASTEWATER FACILITY RECENTLY,
11:12:32AM AND EVEN SO, IN OUR PRIOR CONVERSATION, BEFORE THIS MEETING,
11:12:36AM JUST HAVING TO BE REMINDED, OH, YES, THIS WAS THAT.
11:12:40AM THIS CAN BE VERY CONFUSING SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
11:12:43AM CLARIFYING TO THE BEST OF WHY YOU ARE ABILITY.
11:12:45AM MAKES VERY CLEAR SENSE AND EXPLAINS WHY WE NEED TO GET THIS
11:12:48AM WORK DONE.
11:12:50AM I APPRECIATE YOUR TEAM'S WONDERFUL EFFORT ON THIS.
11:12:54AM >> THANK YOU.
11:12:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:12:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
11:13:01AM I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THIS IS A STANDARD OF WHAT YOU DID
11:13:05AM AND SOME INDIVIDUALS ARE VERY SMART AND HAVE A TOUGH TIME
11:13:08AM MAKING A PRESENTATION.
11:13:08AM YOU ARE NOT ONLY VERY SMART AND MAKE A GOOD TIME MAKING A
11:13:12AM PRESENTATION.
11:13:12AM IN MANY TIMES THE OFFICE HAVE CALLED NEW THE LAST FOUR YEARS
11:13:16AM YOUR RESPONSE HAS BEEN IMMEDIATELY.
11:13:18AM THANK YOU.
11:13:19AM MAYBE A LOT -- MAYBE NOT IN THIS CITY, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN
11:13:23AM GOVERNMENT YOU CALL THEM AND YOU NEVER HEAR FROM THEM.
11:13:25AM >> I THINK THAT IS INGRAINED IN THE WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT
11:13:28AM BECAUSE WE PROVIDE A PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE TO PROTECT OUR
11:13:31AM HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT AND NOT THAT CAN JUST WAIT.
11:13:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE MOTION.
11:13:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NUMBER 4, FILE NUMBER PW 23-80 254.
11:13:48AM RESOLUTION MOVED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECONDED BY
11:13:52AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:13:53AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:13:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:13:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:13:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:13:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:14:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:14:03AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:14:04AM >>CLERK: VIERA BE ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:14:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVED ITEM 5 TO APRIL 5.
11:14:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, FILE NUMBER PW
11:14:28AM 23-80279.
11:14:33AM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
11:14:35AM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY ON BEHALF OF BRAG TO ADDRESS
11:14:40AM ITEM NUMBER 6.
11:14:41AM ITEM NUMBER 6 IS A $3.8 MILLION CONTRACT AWARD.
11:14:47AM SHOULD BE IT BE APPROVED TO C.W. ROBERTS CONTRACTING FOR
11:14:51AM FULL RECLAMATION OF ROADWAYS.
11:14:55AM FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION, IN ESSENCE, IS RE-ESTABLISHING THE
11:15:03AM BASE OF ROADWAYS THAT IS NECESSARY TYPICALLY EVERY 30 YEARS,
11:15:06AM BUT IF ROADWAYS ARE NOT MAINTAINED AND KEPT UP TO SPEED,
11:15:14AM THEN THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN A LITTLE MORE FREQUENTLY I AM
11:15:23AM HAPPY TO ADDRESS OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:15:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. BHIDE?
11:15:28AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
11:15:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS GOING MAINLY TOWARD
11:15:33AM NEW TAMPA AND THE TAMPA PALMS AREA, IS THIS CORRECT?
11:15:37AM >>VIK BHIDE: SO THIS CONTRACT IS CITYWIDE.
11:15:41AM THE FIRST PROJECT IS FOR TAMPA PALMS BOULEVARD.
11:15:44AM AND THAT WAS -- THAT PROJECT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AS PART
11:15:49AM OF THE 2020 BUDGET.
11:15:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, THANK YOU.
11:15:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:15:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:15:56AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER PW 23-80279.
11:16:01AM A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:16:04AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:16:06AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:16:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:16:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:16:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:16:12AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
11:16:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:16:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:16:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
11:16:16AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:16:18AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 7, FILE NUMBER CM
11:16:26AM 23-79470.
11:16:27AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: GOOD MORNING, CITY AND COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:16:32AM JEAN DUNCAN.
11:16:33AM I'M HERE TODAY WITH JEFF NELSON, PRESIDENT OF NELSON
11:16:36AM CONSTRUCTION COMPANY TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE PROJECT IN
11:16:39AM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:16:41AM THERE IS A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN TWO OF THE STREETS THAT
11:16:43AM HAD WORK GOING ON.
11:16:45AM CREST AND CARACAS.
11:16:47AM I CAN SAY -- I HOPE I AM NOT STEALING YOUR THUNDER.
11:16:54AM WE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.
11:16:56AM VERY WELL ATTENDED.
11:16:58AM I SPECIFICALLY FEEL THAT A LOT OF THE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN
11:17:02AM HEARD AND IN THE WORKS OR ADDRESSED BY THE TEAM.
11:17:05AM I WILL LET MR. NELSON GIVE YOU MORE INFORMATION AND ANY
11:17:09AM QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, WE WILL ANSWER THEM FOR YOU TODAY.
11:17:11AM THANK YOU.
11:17:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:17:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING.
11:17:15AM >> WE WILL START WITH THE SOUTHWEST SECTIONS, THAT IS WHERE
11:17:18AM WE FIRST STARTED THE JOB.
11:17:20AM THE RIVERSIDE PARK.
11:17:21AM GENERALLY SPEAKING I KNOW THE OUR PLAN WAS TO BE DONE AND
11:17:26AM GONE OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT BY MAY WHICH IS TWO
11:17:30AM MONTHS AHEAD OF OUR ORIGINAL SCHEDULE.
11:17:32AM WE ARE STILL TRACKING ON THAT.
11:17:34AM KNOCK ON WOOD, MAYBE A LITTLE BEFORE THAT.
11:17:36AM WITH THE DETAILS.
11:17:37AM THE RIVERSIDE PARK, THE SIDEWALK AND CURBS SHOULD BE
11:17:43AM FINISHED THIS WEEK.
11:17:43AM WE ARE PAINTING THE GIANT STRUCTURE OUT THERE THAT SHOULD BE
11:17:46AM FINISHED UP EARLY NEXT WEEK.
11:17:49AM THE HANDRAILS AND SHOULD ARRIVE BY NEXT FRIDAY, THE 24th.
11:17:54AM MULEY GRASS WHICH IS A PURPLY.
11:17:58AM NOT MY EXPERTISE, BUT A GOOD-LOOKING GRASS AND ADD TREES
11:18:02AM THAT WE WILL PLANT ON THE 31st, GOING TO CREST.
11:18:09AM A PAVER -- HE HAD MECHANICAL DIFFICULTIES AND DECIDED NOT
11:18:13AM TOO AND BEGGED OFF OF THAT.
11:18:15AM ON CRESS, WE ARE CURRENTLY RESTORING THE 100 AND 200 BLOCKS.
11:18:19AM SHOULD BE DONE WITH THE RESTORATION BY THE END OF THE.
11:18:25AM MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR CREST GET THAT PAVED AT THE END OF THE
11:18:30AM MONTH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HIGHLAND.
11:18:31AM PAINT UP TO HIGHLAND.
11:18:34AM BOTH SIDES OF CREST.
11:18:35AM THE CHALLENGE WITH HIGHLAND, ONE STRUCTURE ON THE NORTHWEST
11:18:39AM CORNER THAT THE ENGINEERS CAN'T SEEM TO AGREE WHAT THEY WANT
11:18:42AM US TO BUILD THERE.
11:18:43AM WE ARE WAIT FOR SOMEBODY -- THE CONTRACTOR, TELL US WHAT TO
11:18:47AM BUILD.
11:18:47AM WE WILL BUILD ANYTHING YOU WANT TO AND WAITING ON AN ANSWER
11:18:53AM WHAT TO BUILD THERE AND WE WILL PAVE THAT INTERSECTION AND
11:18:58AM PAVE IT AND GET OUT OF THERE.
11:18:59AM ON FLORIDA, ONE OF THE COMMENTS BROUGHT UP AT THE MEETING
11:19:02AM BECAUSE THIS -- THIS HAS TAKEN A LOT LONGER FROM THE D.O.T.
11:19:06AM LONGER THAN WE EXPECTED, SOME OF THE ASPHALT MANHOLES WOULD
11:19:11AM HAVE SEDIMENT AND WE TESTED A COUPLE OF DAYS AFTER THAT
11:19:15AM MEETING AND WE FIXED THAT.
11:19:17AM THE GOOD TO GOOD NEWS, NEWS FROM THE D.O.T. APPROVED THE
11:19:21AM IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH SOME OF THE SIDEWALKS
11:19:23AM AND INLET'S.
11:19:25AM THEY ASKED FOR MORE INFORMATION.
11:19:28AM WE WILL PROVIDE THAT TO THEM AND OUR EXPECTATION TO HAVE AN
11:19:33AM ANSWER TO START THE WORK THE FIRST WEEK OF APRIL.
11:19:35AM FRIARSON, WE ARE TURNING IN THE WATER MAIN CLEARANCES.
11:19:41AM FRIARSON IS RIGHT HERE.
11:19:42AM TURNING IN THE WATER MAIN CLEARANCES FOR DEP APPROVAL THIS
11:19:46AM WEEK.
11:19:46AM THAT CAN TAKE UP TO 30 DAYS IN SOME CASES.
11:19:49AM IT IS OUT YOU HAVE OUR HANDS.
11:19:50AM A HEALTH DEPARTMENT ISSUE.
11:19:52AM WE HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET THEM TO TURN AROUND
11:19:55AM QUICKER.
11:19:55AM OUR EXPECTATION WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT ON THIS JOB.
11:19:59AM OUR HOPE IS TO HAVE CURB IN ASPHALT ON FRIARSON BY THE END
11:20:04AM OF APRIL.
11:20:04AM OUT THERE AND EVERYTHING CLEANED UP IN ANTICIPATION FOR THE
11:20:08AM FINAL PAVING IN MAY.
11:20:09AM ON CENTRAL, WE HAVE GOT THE FIRST ASPHALT AND PAVERS 9
11:20:17AM BEGINNING OF MARCH.
11:20:18AM WE ARE FINISHING DRIVEWAY APRON THIS WEEK AND THEN READY FOR
11:20:24AM CARACAS.
11:20:25AM THE PIPE REPAIRS WE EXPECT TO BE COMPLETED WITH THE PIPE
11:20:28AM REPAIRS COMING OFF OF CARACAS AND DOWN CENTRAL BY THE END OF
11:20:33AM MARCH.
11:20:34AM MAYBE A LITTLE -- LITTLE EARLIER THAN WE THOUGHT.
11:20:36AM THINGS ARE GOING WELL.
11:20:37AM WE GOT GOOD WEATHER.
11:20:39AM COOPERATION.
11:20:40AM KNOCK ON WOOD.
11:20:41AM WE ARE DOING OKAY.
11:20:42AM HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF MARCH.
11:20:44AM WE ARE STARTING TO BUILD THE ROAD FROM THE INTERSTATE OUT.
11:20:47AM WE HAVE ACCESS TO AN ALLEY.
11:20:49AM PUTTING ROAD DOWN.
11:20:51AM ONCE THE PIPE WORK IS COMPLETE, EXPECT TO PUT THE CURB AND
11:20:54AM ASPHALT AND GET THAT INSTALLED IN APRIL AND ONCE THAT IS
11:20:58AM BELT, PAVE THE ENTIRE SOUTHWEST -- YEAH, SOUTHWEST QUADRANT.
11:21:05AM THE SOUTHEAST SECTION OVER HERE, CARACAS TO TALIAFERRO, THE
11:21:14AM GENTLEMAN -- I THOUGHT WE PASSED OUT WORK TO GO THERE IN
11:21:17AM DECEMBER AND I THOUGHT WE STARTED THAT ROADWORK IN JANUARY
11:21:20AM BUT THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED SHOWED FIVE MONTHS OF WORK.
11:21:26AM I THINK WE ARE THREE NOW AND EXPECT BE PAVED BY THE END OF
11:21:29AM THIS MONTH FROM THE INTERSTATE OUT TOWARD NEBRASKA WHERE WE
11:21:33AM WILL BE WORKING.
11:21:33AM THAT SHOULD BE OUT THERE.
11:21:35AM WHEN WE DO HAND OUT THESE FLYERS.
11:21:37AM A LITTLE CONFUSED AND DO HOMEWORK TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
11:21:41AM HAPPENED.
11:21:41AM WE PUT DOOR HANGERS.
11:21:43AM WALK EVERY STREET.
11:21:45AM DOOR HANGERS AND KNOCK TRY IT MEET PEOPLE.
11:21:49AM DOOR HANGERS WITH NUMBERS AND WEB SITES.
11:21:52AM DO DAILY UPDATES ON OUR WEB SITE.
11:21:56AM AND WE MET THE MAN EARLIER AT HIS HOUSE TWO LOCATIONS.
11:22:01AM THREE WEEKS WHEN HE THOUGHT WE KNOCKED POWER -- BUT IT
11:22:05AM TURNED OUT THE POWER WAS FROM THE BACK SIDE AND IT WAS
11:22:10AM NOTHING TO DO WITH US.
11:22:10AM HE KNOWS OUR STAFF.
11:22:12AM SURPRISED TO SEE HIM BUT HE HAS WILL'S PHONE NUMBER.
11:22:15AM WE WILL REACH OUT TO HIM AND SEE WHAT HIS OTHER CONCERNS
11:22:18AM ARE.
11:22:18AM NEBRASKA IS THE NEXT BIG INTERSECTION WE HAVE GOT TO DO.
11:22:22AM WE ARE SCHEDULED TO START THAT WORK ON APRIL 10.
11:22:25AM WE THINK WE WILL BE THERE IN SIX WEEKS.
11:22:28AM DOT SAYS AT LEAST EIGHT BECAUSE IT IS A LOT MORE COMPLICATED
11:22:34AM THAN YOU THINK.
11:22:35AM WE HOPEFULLY WILL BE OUT OF THERE IN SIX WEEKS AND PUT MORE
11:22:39AM GUYS IN THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO INCONVENIENCE.
11:22:43AM AND EAST OF CARACAS, WE EXPECT THAT LATE MAY ONCE WE GET
11:22:47AM DONE WITH THE INTERSECTION ON NEBRASKA.
11:22:49AM MOVING TO THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT, THE CITY -- THERE WAS SOME
11:22:54AM DISCUSSION ABOUT REBUILDING THE ROADWAY IN SOME
11:22:57AM NEIGHBORHOODS FROM CURB-TO-CURB, WHERE OUR ASSIGNMENT PIPES.
11:23:02AM IF THEY ARE NOT 20 FEET DEEP.
11:23:05AM WATER LINE, THREE FOOT TPD AND PATCH AT THE TOP OF THE ROAD.
11:23:10AM RESIDENTS THAT WERE TRYING TO LOBBY THE CITY TO DO THAT CURB
11:23:13AM TO CURB.
11:23:14AM THE DECISION WAS MADE TO, NO, REPLACE THE ASPHALT PATCH.
11:23:19AM WE RESCHEDULED OUR PAVERS AND EXPECT TOO PAVE IT BY THE END
11:23:24AM OF MARCH.
11:23:28AM WITH RESPECT TO THE NORTHWEST SECTION, CHEROKEE, WE WERE
11:23:32AM ABLE TO PUT THE PAVERS IN BEGINNING OF THE MONTH.
11:23:35AM AND THE SOUTH HALF WILL BE PAVED BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.
11:23:38AM WE ARE WRAPPING UP A BUNCH OF STUFF IN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE
11:23:42AM WEEKS, A LOT OF STUFF WILL, WRAPPED UP.
11:23:44AM AND THE NEXT BIG AREA IS NORTH OF HILLSBOROUGH.
11:23:48AM STARTED THAT WORK MARCH 6.
11:23:50AM INSTALLING THE BOX CULVERT IN COMANCHE AND THE WATER MAIN
11:23:54AM WORK ON HENRY SO THE HENRY MAIN INTERSECTION WILL BE READY
11:23:58AM AND LAY A BIG BOX OVER IT WITHOUT ANY INTERRUPTION.
11:24:02AM STARTING WATER MINUTE HILLSBOROUGH IN FRONT OF STARBUCKS IN
11:24:05AM THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND DO THAT WORK AT NIGHT TO MINIMIZE THE
11:24:08AM IMPACT TO THE TRAVELING PUBLIC.
11:24:10AM AND THAT IS THE STATUS OF OUR WORK.
11:24:12AM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I WILL TAKE THEM.
11:24:14AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:24:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL -- I WILL START WITH F. D.O.T.
11:24:23AM YOU SAID THEY APPROVED THAT FOR FLORIDA AVENUE AND THEY
11:24:26AM REQUESTED TOMORROW EXTRA INFORMATION.
11:24:28AM AND YOU SAID -- I DIDN'T HEAR -- I WASN'T CLEAR.
11:24:31AM YOU DID PROVIDE THAT AND NOW YOU ARE WAITING FOR THEIR
11:24:34AM RESPONSE?
11:24:36AM >> YES.
11:24:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST DOUBLE CHECKING.
11:24:38AM WHAT DO YOU EXPECT THEIR RESPONSE TIME TO BE FOR THAT?
11:24:42AM I MEAN -- IF IT IS NOT A REALLY GIANT --
11:24:47AM >> THEY UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND THE HEAT WE ARE ALL FEELING.
11:24:50AM I CAN'T SPEAK FOR D.O.T.
11:24:55AM I WISH I COULD.
11:24:57AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE HAVE MADE AWARE OF THE SUBMITTAL AND TO
11:25:00AM REACH OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT AND ASK FOR ACCELERATED REVIEW
11:25:04AM TIME ON THAT.
11:25:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
11:25:05AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:25:07AM I HAVE HAD -- ACTUALLY MISS DUNCAN, WHILE YOU ARE UP HERE, I
11:25:11AM HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW CONCERNS.
11:25:14AM AND EVEN THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS HERE EARLIER WAS COMPLAINING
11:25:19AM ABOUT THE FACT ABOUT TRASH PICKUP.
11:25:22AM BEING TOLD THAT STREET, CARACAS, THAT THEY HAVE TO CALL
11:25:26AM EVERY TIME THEY WANT THEIR TRASH PICKED UP WHERE WE SHOULD
11:25:29AM COME UP -- WE SHOULD HAVE A BETTER SOLUTION SO MR. MARLOWE
11:25:34AM AND ALL THE RESIDENTS ON CARACAS CAN HAVE THEIR TRASH PECKED
11:25:39AM UP.
11:25:39AM I WAS WONDERING IF YOU REACH OUT TO HIM.
11:25:42AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE WILL SEE WHAT COORDINATIONS HAVE
11:25:46AM HAPPENED THUS FAR AND REACH OUT TO HIM DIRECTLY.
11:25:49AM I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE HIS CONTACT INFORMATION.
11:25:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE IT AS WELL.
11:25:54AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I WILL AT THAT YOU CAN TO HIM AND GET WITH
11:25:57AM SOLID WASTE AND FOR THE WHOLE THING, HAVE A PLAN WHILE
11:26:01AM CONSTRUCTION IS GOING OBJECT.
11:26:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW YOU DID A DOOR HANGER AND DOOR KNOCKER
11:26:06AM AND KNOCKED.
11:26:07AM MAY BE TIME TO GO BACK TO THAT STRETCH OF CARACAS AND KNOCK
11:26:11AM AGAIN.
11:26:11AM IF HE IS HAVING PROBLEM WITH DIRT IN HIS WATER LINE, OTHER
11:26:15AM PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE HAD THAT ISSUE OR TRASH ISSUES.
11:26:18AM THAT WAY WE CAN KIND OF CONNECT THE DOTS BETWEEN ALL OF THE
11:26:22AM TRASH FOLKS AND ALL OF THESE -- JUST REACH OUT.
11:26:24AM >> I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED WITH THE STAND IN THE WATER LINE
11:26:27AM BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO ANY WATER LINE WORK ANYWHERE NEAR THERE
11:26:31AM AND TRAVELS FROM THE CITY PIPES FROM MILES AND MILES.
11:26:33AM WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY WATER LINE WORK IN FRONT OF HIS HOUSE.
11:26:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOOD TO KNOW.
11:26:37AM GOOD TO KNOW.
11:26:38AM MAYBE TAKE THIS TIME TO REACH OUT TO THOSE FOLKS MIDWAY
11:26:46AM THROUGH THIS PARTICULAR TRANCHE AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY
11:26:51AM CONCERNS.
11:26:51AM WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THAT MEETING THAT THERE WAS A RESIDENT
11:26:55AM WHO HAD A $600 WATER BILL BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE USING HIS
11:26:59AM WATER.
11:26:59AM AND I KNOW THAT IS BEING HANDLED RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE -- WE
11:27:03AM ARE IN TOUCH WITH -- WITH THE CITIZEN AND THAT IS GOING
11:27:07AM THROUGH THE PROCESS.
11:27:07AM SO SOMETIMES IT IS NICE TO HAVE PEOPLE REACH OUT AND NOT
11:27:14AM HAVING ANY MORE ISSUES.
11:27:15AM AND THEN -- I KNOW YOU AND I TALKED OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER
11:27:18AM OF HIGHLAND AND THE INFLOW THERE.
11:27:21AM YOU SAID YOU WERE WAITING FOR FOLKS TO MAKE THAT
11:27:28AM DETERMINATION.
11:27:28AM WHO ARE THEY WAITING FOR THE CITY?
11:27:31AM >> THE DESIGN ENGINEERING AND THE CITY'S STORMWATER
11:27:34AM DEPARTMENT.
11:27:34AM THEY KEEP GOING BACK AND FORTH AND I AM A SPECTATOR IN THE
11:27:38AM TENNIS GAME.
11:27:39AM JUST WAITING FOR THEM TO FINALLY AGREE WHAT THEY WANT ME TO
11:27:43AM BUILD.
11:27:44AM I WILL DO WHAT THEY WANT.
11:27:45AM THEY NEED TO TELL ME WHAT THAT IS.
11:27:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MISS DUNCAN.
11:27:49AM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I DIDN'T REALIZE A DUE LOOP IF ANYONE
11:27:53AM REMEMBERS WHAT THOSE ARE.
11:27:54AM I WILL CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT AND GET WITH MR. NELSON ON THE
11:27:57AM POINT OF CONSTANT HE IS WORKING WITH AND SEE IF I CAN
11:28:01AM ACCELERATE THAT AS WELL.
11:28:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF HIGHLAND.
11:28:06AM I KNOW A SIDEWALK ISSUE AND AN INLET ISSUE.
11:28:10AM A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON.
11:28:14AM I KNOW IF IT HAS YOUR ATTENTION, IT WILL SPEED THROUGH.
11:28:19AM >> APPLY WITH ADA AND TO HAVE CROSS SLOPE -- A BIGGER PUZZLE
11:28:26AM FOR PEOPLE SMARTER THAN ME TO FIGURE IT OUT.
11:28:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO MAKE SURE IT
11:28:32AM IS RIGHT.
11:28:33AM HAVING THE SIDEWALKS ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT WHILE GETTING
11:28:36AM THE DRAINAGE DONE AND ALL THAT.
11:28:39AM LAST I HEARD ABOUT WEST CREST AVENUE THEY WERE FINDING SOME
11:28:46AM SETTLING ISSUES THAT THEY COULDN'T FINISH PAVING.
11:28:50AM MR. STOCK HAD TALKED ABOUT SOME PIPES.
11:28:56AM >> BECAUSE OF THE UNSUITABLE MATERIALS, WE MOVED 15,000 YARD
11:29:00AM OF CLAY, MUCK OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
11:29:05AM I THINK WE RESOLVED IT.
11:29:07AM >> THAT IS FINISHED NOW.
11:29:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS THE AREA TO GET THE PAVEMENT.
11:29:12AM >> THE FINAL LIFT OF ASPHALT.
11:29:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN DO WE EXPECT THAT FINAL LIFT OF ASPHALT
11:29:17AM >> SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE VERY END OF MARCH AND BEGINNING OF
11:29:20AM APRIL.
11:29:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: END OF THIS MONTH.
11:29:22AM PERFECT.
11:29:23AM AND THERE IS PEP ONE THING I HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD
11:29:29AM LAST NIGHT ACTUALLY ABOUT THE -- THE CONCERN WITH THE
11:29:33AM SANITARY CONFLICT.
11:29:35AM THE STORM STRUCTURE AT THE COMANCHE INTERSECTION.
11:29:38AM NORTH OF HILLSBOROUGH.
11:29:41AM YES, POSSIBLY?
11:29:44AM YOU ANSWERED THIS IN AN E-MAIL ALREADY.
11:29:47AM >> UP AT COMANCHE, WE HAD A DESIGN ISSUE THAT OCCURRED WITH
11:29:51AM THE LOCATION OF THE STRUCTURE WITH A PIPE, WORKING WITH
11:29:55AM ENGINEER WADE TRIM AND PRECAST MANUFACTURER TO GET THAT BOX
11:30:01AM OVER TWO FEET AND WITH HE A DESIGN SOLUTION AND WILL BE
11:30:04AM MOVING FORWARD WITH IT EARLY NEXT WEEK.
11:30:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU SAID FOLKS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE OUT
11:30:09AM YESTERDAY TO TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT.
11:30:11AM WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE LOOKING AT GETTING A WHOLE NEW
11:30:14AM STRUCTURE.
11:30:15AM >> MOOED PHI EXISTING STRUCTURE, SHIFT IT TWO FEET AND MOVE
11:30:19AM FORWARD WITH THE WORK.
11:30:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCELLENT.
11:30:21AM EVERYONE WAS CONCERNED OH, NO, WAITING MONTHS FOR A NEW -- A
11:30:26AM -- A PIECE TO BE BUILT.
11:30:28AM SO THANK YOU.
11:30:28AM WE APPRECIATE THAT.
11:30:30AM AND LIKE I SAID, I HAVE HEARD FROM FOLKS WHO HAVE TALKED TO
11:30:41AM AUDREY IS THE NEW COMMUNICATIONS PERSON THAT THEY HAVE HAD
11:30:47AM GOOD EXPERIENCES WITH HER.
11:30:48AM SO I WANTED TO -- TO SEND THAT FEEDBACK.
11:30:53AM >> FANTASTIC.
11:30:55AM >> APPRECIATE IT.
11:30:56AM WE SWITCHED PR FIRMS A MONTH AGO AND HOPEFULLY THINGS ARE
11:31:01AM MOVING FATHER THAN THEY HAVE BEEN.
11:31:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY ARE APPRECIATIVE OF HER AND THAT SO FAR
11:31:08AM THE RESPONSES HAVE BEEN SATISFACTORY.
11:31:10AM WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO WITH SOME OF THAT, BUT APPRECIATE
11:31:14AM HER ATTENTION AND YOUR ATTENTION.
11:31:16AM SO THANK YOU.
11:31:17AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:31:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU
11:31:25AM ASKED ALMOST EVERYTHING I WAS GOING TO ASK AND GET UPDATES
11:31:29AM ON.
11:31:30AM I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND GIVING ANOTHER UPDATE.
11:31:32AM GLAD TO HEAR THAT CARACAS WILL BE END OF MONTH WILL BE PAVED
11:31:37AM -- YOU SAID END OF MONTH, CARACAS.
11:31:41AM EAST CARACAS.
11:31:43AM TOWARD TALIFERRO.
11:31:46AM THE GENTLEMAN HERE THIS MORNING.
11:31:50AM WE HAVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS OF MISSED TRASH PICKUP THAT WAS
11:31:55AM ALREADY ADDRESSED.
11:31:57AM BUT ADDRESSED CREST.
11:31:59AM EARLY APRIL FOR ASPHALT THERE.
11:32:01AM NEXT UP NEBRASKA, NEXT MAJOR EXCEPTION APRIL 10.
11:32:06AM YOU MENTIONED STARBUCKS CENTRAL AND HILLSBOROUGH.
11:32:09AM YOU WILL TRY TO DO WORK AT NIGHT TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT.
11:32:13AM IS THAT CORRECT?
11:32:15AM >> THAT IS OUR PLAN.
11:32:16AM CAN'T GET PEOPLE FROM GETTING THEIR COFFEE.
11:32:19AM IN AND OUT OF THERE.
11:32:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:21AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I DON'T WANT DUPLICATIVE SHE ASKED
11:32:26AM EVERYTHING I WANTED TO ASK.
11:32:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:28AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
11:32:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE
11:32:32AM NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THEIR CONCERNS AND THANK MR. NELSON FOR
11:32:35AM HEARING THEM AND WORKING TOGETHER TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEMS.
11:32:38AM A LOT OF THINGS I HEARD HERE TODAY, YOU MAY BE THE ONE
11:32:41AM RESPONSIBLE FOR, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO TO OUR SUBS AND
11:32:44AM INDIVIDUALS IN GOVERNMENT THAT YOU HAVE NO CONTROL -- NO
11:32:47AM CUSTOMER CONTROL OF; HOWEVER, YOU MADE A LOT OF STATEMENTS
11:32:52AM TO FINISH BY MARCH.
11:32:53AM ONLY TWO WEEKS LEFT.
11:32:55AM >> WORKING OUT FOR ME.
11:32:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I KNOW YOU GUYS, ONE HAS A LOT OF HAIR
11:33:00AM AND THE OTHER DOESN'T.
11:33:01AM I WILL HOLD YOU BOTH RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
11:33:03AM THAT'S HOW I AM.
11:33:05AM STRAIGHTFORWARD.
11:33:05AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO AND THANK YOU, COMPANY.
11:33:07AM THANK YOU FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS' CONCERNS.
11:33:11AM MUCH BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
11:33:13AM >> IT WILL BE NICE.
11:33:14AM THANK YOU.
11:33:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APOLOGIZE, TALKING OF TRASH.
11:33:18AM A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:33:19AM ONE WAS THE TRASH COLLECTION.
11:33:23AM THE OTHER COLLECTION OF TALIAFERRO.
11:33:27AM THEY COMPLAINED OF TRASH IN YARDS AGAIN AND COME UP WITH A
11:33:31AM SOLUTION OF -- LIKE BUCKETS AND ALL OF THAT.
11:33:33AM SO MAYBE TO REVISIT THAT.
11:33:35AM >> WITH WE WILL ENFORCE THAT AND REVISIT.
11:33:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK A LOT OF THINGS CAN BE ADDRESS IF YOU
11:33:41AM DO A QUICK DOOR KNOCK IN THE AREA TO RECONNECT WITH FOLKS.
11:33:46AM IT WILL BE VERY HELPFUL.
11:33:48AM >> WE WILL TAKE CARE OF THAT.
11:33:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:33:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
11:33:55AM THANK YOU.
11:33:55AM >> THANK YOU.
11:33:56AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8.
11:34:03AM >> GOOD MORNING, DEPUTY CHIEF CALVIN JOHNSON, TAMPA POLICE
11:34:19AM DEPARTMENT, ON BEHALF OF INTERIM CHIEF BERCAW.
11:34:24AM HE COULDN'T BE HERE.
11:34:26AM ON THE AGENDA THERE WAS A TALK OF A DISCUSSION ON THE MASTER
11:34:29AM PLAN.
11:34:30AM I THINK THE LAST TIME HE WAS HERE WITH THE PVA PRESIDENT,
11:34:34AM BRANDON BARKLEY, THEY DISCUSSED A LOT OF THINGS WE DO IN OUR
11:34:40AM OPERATION.
11:34:40AM I WANT TO GO OVER SOME OF THE BULLET POINTS THAT YOU
11:34:43AM RECEIVED.
11:34:43AM THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE HAVE WHEN POLICING.
11:34:47AM I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OUTLINE, BUT ALSO SOME SORT OF
11:34:52AM INFORMATION WHAT WE DO ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
11:34:54AM LAW ENFORCEMENT IS FLUID.
11:34:56AM I DON'T WANT FOLKS TO THINK WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT A MASTER
11:35:00AM PLAN THAT IT IS STATIC.
11:35:02AM ON A DAILY BASIS, WE GET INFORMATION ON THE CRIME FIGHT THAT
11:35:07AM GOES OUT TO OUR COMMANDERS THAT THEY HAVE TO REACT TO.
11:35:09AM ON A WEEKLY BASIS, WE ARE HAVING MEETINGS INTERNALLY WITH
11:35:16AM EACH COMMANDER AND SHIFT COMMANDERS.
11:35:19AM ON TOP INVOLVING VIOLENT CRIME, THERE WAS A MEETING WITH THE
11:35:23AM OUTSIDE STAKEHOLDERS, STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, ATF.
11:35:28AM ALL THOSE THAT ARE PART OF KEEPING THE CITY SAFE.
11:35:31AM ON A MONTHLY BASIS, WE HAVE A MEETING WITH ALL OUR
11:35:35AM COMMANDERS AND GO OVER THE CRIME FIGHT.
11:35:36AM WE GO OVER WHAT IS GOING ON IN EACH AREA OF THE CITY.
11:35:43AM WE GO OVER WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH OUR RESOURCES.
11:35:45AM WE GO OVER WHERE WE NEED TO MOVE OFFICERS AT TO BE EFFECTIVE
11:35:49AM IN OUR CRIME FIGHT.
11:35:51AM THAT IS ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
11:35:53AM ALSO ON A MONTHLY BASIS, WE MEET WITH THE UNION.
11:35:57AM WE FIND OUT WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE.
11:36:02AM WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE IN THE BIG PICTURE OF
11:36:04AM THINGS, WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE, TRYING TO KEEP THE CITY
11:36:07AM SAFE AND OUR OFFICERS HEALTHY WHEN IT COMES TO HOW THEY
11:36:13AM OPERATE EVERY DAY.
11:36:13AM ONCE A YEAR WE HAVE A DEPLOYMENT MEETING.
11:36:20AM THAT GOES BEYOND THAT.
11:36:21AM BECAUSE THE DEPLOYMENT DISCUSSION TAKES ABOUT THREE MONTHS.
11:36:24AM WE GO OVER EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE CRIME FIGHT.
11:36:29AM WE CALL ALL THE COMMANDERS IN.
11:36:31AM WE FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS DURING EVERY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
11:36:33AM WE FIND OUT THEIR NEEDS.
11:36:35AM WE FIND OUT THEIR WANTS.
11:36:37AM WE FIND OUT WHAT THEY WANT TO CHANGE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO
11:36:40AM THE CRIME FIGHTING.
11:36:41AM AND THEIR MAN POWER AND THEIR OBJECTIVES.
11:36:45AM WE FIND OUT WHAT THEY HEAR DURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH
11:36:48AM MEETINGS EVERY MONTH CONSTITUENTS THAT WE SERVE EVERY DAY.
11:36:55AM WE GATHER TOGETHER AS AN EXECUTIVE AND COMMAND STAFF.
11:36:59AM WE REVIEW ALL THOSE THINGS FOR THAT DEPLOYMENT.
11:37:03AM THE OFFICERS WE HAVE, THEY SHIFTED ONCE A YEAR BY THEIR
11:37:07AM SENIORITY.
11:37:08AM DIFFERENT DISTRICTS IN THE CITY.
11:37:11AM WE MAKE SURE THAT AS A RESULT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS WE PUT
11:37:19AM THE MAN POWER WHERE THEY NEED TO BE ON A YEARLY BASIS.
11:37:23AM THAT IS A CUMBERSOME PROCESS.
11:37:28AM TAKES MONTHS AT TIME TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT TO KEEP
11:37:30AM THE CITY SAFE.
11:37:31AM WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE MASTER PLAN OR THE OPERATIONS
11:37:37AM PLAN, WHENEVER THE BUDGET PROCESS COMES UP THAT GOES IN
11:37:43AM FRONT OF YOU, SOMETHING ELSE WE PREPARE FOR ON TOP OF
11:37:45AM EVERYTHING ELSE.
11:37:47AM WE LOOK AT CHIEF BERCAW AND THE PBA PRESIDENT CAME A COUPLE
11:37:54AM OF WEEKS AGO.
11:37:55AM WE HAD A BIG CHANGEOVER.
11:37:57AM WE HAD THE OFFICERS AND WHAT WAS SUGGESTED IN THE BUDGET THE
11:38:00AM PREVIOUS YEAR REGARDING MAN POWER.
11:38:03AM WE MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS.
11:38:06AM THE ACTION OF THAT STARTED FEBRUARY 1.
11:38:09AM COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND COMMUNITY POLICING.
11:38:18AM FINDING OUT WHAT WE DID FOR THE YEARLY BUDGET IS EFFECTIVE
11:38:23AM AND WILL TAKE TIME.
11:38:23AM AND WE WILL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS WE DO INTERNALLY
11:38:35AM AND SOME OF THE NEEDS WE HAVE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE
11:38:39AM CRIME FIGHT, THE HEALTH OF OUR OFFICERS AND WHAT WE DO AS AN
11:38:42AM ORGANIZATION IN ORDER TO STAY HEALTHY AND KEEP THE CITY
11:38:45AM SAFE.
11:38:45AM AND I THINK THE FIRST BULLET POINT THAT WE HAVE ENSURING THE
11:38:58AM HEALTH, SAFETY OF OUR SWORN AND NONSWORN PERSONNEL.
11:39:02AM A LOT GOES INTO THAT.
11:39:04AM WE REVIEW POLICE VEHICLES, UNIFORMS, FIREARMS, OUR EV PERKS.
11:39:10AM WE REVIEW THE EMOTIONAL WELFARE OF THE OFFICERS.
11:39:15AM THE MENTAL, PHYSICAL AND FINANCIAL.
11:39:17AM ALL THAT REVIEW PROCESS THAT HELPS US DETERMINE IF WE ARE
11:39:21AM BEING EFFECTIVE.
11:39:22AM THE SECOND BULLET POINT THAT WE HAVE CONTAINING, SUSTAINING
11:39:26AM AND IMPROVE HAVING THE LOWEST CRIME RATE.
11:39:31AM WE REALLY FOCUS ON THAT EVERY DAY AND FOR THE REPORT WE PUT
11:39:34AM OUT FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE LOOK AT OVERALL CRIME
11:39:39AM NUMBERS.
11:39:39AM VIOLENT CREAMS.
11:39:41AM WHERE, HOW AND WHY AND IF WE ARE BEING EFFECTIVE IN USING
11:39:44AM OUR PARTNERS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
11:39:46AM WE LOOK AT THE MAN POWER AND BASED ON WHERE THE VIOLENT
11:39:54AM CRIME IS OCCURRING AND PROPERTY CRIME, DO WE HAVE A
11:39:57AM RESOURCES THERE ON A DAILY BASIS.
11:39:59AM THE THIRD BULLET POINT, SUSTAIN THE ACCREDITATION STANDARD
11:40:03AM ALONG WITH OUR QUALITY ASSURANCE.
11:40:05AM WE ARE UNDER AN ACCREDITATION.
11:40:07AM THE COMMISSION ON FLORIDA LAW ENFORCEMENT ACCREDITATION,
11:40:11AM THAT IS WHO WE ARE UNDER AND THEY COME AND INSPECT US, A
11:40:16AM THOROUGH REVIEW.
11:40:16AM THE NEXT ONE IS IN 2023.
11:40:18AM THEY LOOKED THROUGH OUR S.O.P.s.
11:40:22AM THEY LOOK THROUGH USE OF FORCE.
11:40:24AM EVERYTHING WE DO AS AN ORGANIZATION AND MAKE SURE WE ARE
11:40:26AM MEETING THEIR STANDARDS.
11:40:28AM INTERNALLY, WE GOT PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS.
11:40:32AM BODY-WORN CAMERAS, USE OF FORCE, ANY COMPLAINTS THAT WE
11:40:41AM HAVE.
11:40:41AM AND THAT IS DONE ON A MONTHLY BASIS AND THEY GIVE US
11:40:45AM UPDATES.
11:40:45AM WHEN IT COMES TO I THINK THE FOURTH BULLET POINT, DIVERSITY
11:40:49AM OF RECRUITMENT.
11:40:50AM HOW TO SELECT AND RETAIN THE BEST.
11:40:53AM WE REVIEW THE MANPOWER.
11:40:55AM OVERALL MANPOWER.
11:40:57AM AND ASSURED OF THE DIVERSITY OF THE MANPOWER.
11:41:00AM THE POSITION LOCATION.
11:41:02AM WE HAVE PLAIN CLOTHES OFFICERS.
11:41:04AM WE HAVE UNIFORMED OFFICERS.
11:41:05AM WE HAVE DETECTIVES.
11:41:07AM WE REVIEW IF THEY ARE ALL BEING EFFECTIVE IN THEIR ROLES OR
11:41:11AM DO WE HAVE TO ADJUST THE NUMBERS BASED ON WHAT IS GOING ON
11:41:15AM REAL TIME WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:41:16AM WE LOOK AT OUR FIELD TRAINING OFFICER PROGRAM.
11:41:19AM WE HERE OFFICERS CONSTANTLY.
11:41:22AM ARE THEY BEING TRAINED WELL?
11:41:25AM DO WE HAVE ENOUGH FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS TO HANDLE HIRING
11:41:28AM ALL THE NEW OFFICERS?
11:41:30AM ALL THIS GOES INTO IT THE DISCUSSIONS THAT YOU GET WHEN THAT
11:41:35AM BUDGET TIME COMES UP AND YOU HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
11:41:38AM EFFORTS WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO
11:41:42AM INCREASING THE CAPACITY TO DEAL WITH THE MENTAL ILLNESS.
11:41:47AM REVIEW THAT.
11:41:48AM THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH UNIT.
11:41:50AM WE GOT THEM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
11:41:52AM WE FIND OUT HOW EFFECTIVE THEY ARE.
11:41:54AM THE CASELOAD.
11:41:56AM WHO THEY ARE DEALING WITH AND THE OUTCOMES TO MAKE SURE
11:41:59AM GETTING THEM IS BEING EFFECTIVE THE HOMELESS THAT WE DEAL
11:42:03AM WITH WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:42:04AM WE REVIEW OUR EFFORTS EVEN WITH OUR OUTSIDE PARTNERS LIKE
11:42:09AM THE SALVATION ARMY AND METROPOLITAN MINISTRIES.
11:42:12AM WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO PREPAREDNESS AND CAPABILITIES WITH
11:42:16AM SPECIAL EVENTS AND HAZARD ACTIVITIES.
11:42:23AM WE GO THROUGH THAT CONSISTENCY.
11:42:26AM WE LOOK AT CO-SPONSORED EVENTS, THE SPONSORED EVENTS, THE
11:42:31AM NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS WE HAVE AND THE MANPOWER WE USE AND
11:42:34AM ADJUSTMENTS WE MAKE TO FULFILL THOSE NEEDS.
11:42:37AM AT TIMES, IT IS VERY FLUID SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE EVERY OTHER
11:42:44AM WEEK AND MONTH AND WE WANT POLICE AND PARKS AND REC TO BE
11:42:48AM INVOLVED IN THAT.
11:42:48AM ON TOP OF THE CRIME FIGHT WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE
11:42:52AM ARE THERE BEING EFFECTIVE TO PREVENT CERTAIN THINGS FROM
11:42:55AM OCCURRING.
11:42:55AM WE HAD THAT HURRICANE PLAN EVERY YEAR.
11:42:58AM ANYTHING ELSE THAT MAY OCCUR THAT IS AN EMERGENCY.
11:43:01AM WE MEET AS A STAFF.
11:43:03AM REVIEW WHAT HAPPENED IN PREVIOUS YEAR.
11:43:07AM WHAT WE DEALT WITH THE PROS AND CONS AND IF WE ARE PREPARED
11:43:12AM TO DEAL WITH THAT IN THE FUTURE.
11:43:16AM WHEN IT COMES TO EXPANDING COMMUNITY POLICING, THAT IS VERY
11:43:20AM IMPORTANT TO US. WE LOOK AT THE ROLE CALLS THAT WE HAVE.
11:43:24AM FRONT PORCH ROLL CALLS AND NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:43:27AM WE LOOKED AT THE MEETINGS WE HAD INVOLVING VIOLENT CREAM.
11:43:31AM WE SEE WHAT WE WERE TOLD THERE AND IF WE ARE BEING EFFECTIVE
11:43:34AM AND HOW WE RESPOND TO HOW WE RESPOND REGARDING THOSE
11:43:39AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:43:39AM SO IN SUMMARY, AS A DEPARTMENT, WE ARE WORKING ON FILLING
11:43:44AM VACANCIES.
11:43:44AM WE KNOW CHIEF BERCAW CAME UP WITH THE PBA AND BY MARCH 31,
11:43:51AM HE SAID WE WILL BE DOWN 14 VACANCIES.
11:43:53AM THAT WAS A BIG PUSH.
11:43:55AM TAKES TIME TO TRAIN OFFICERS.
11:43:57AM TAKES TIME TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE PREPARED TO BE ON THE
11:44:02AM STREET.
11:44:02AM WE HAVE A HOLDOVER CLASS THAT STARTS RIGHT NOW IN A COUPLE
11:44:05AM OF WEEKS.
11:44:06AM BUT UNTIL THEY GET THERE, EVERY EVENT WE HAVE IN THE
11:44:09AM COMMUNITY, WE MAKE SURE THEY GO THERE SO PEOPLE SEE THEIR
11:44:12AM NEW OFFICERS.
11:44:13AM AND THAT WHAT WE PUT IN THEM AS A COMMAND STAFF AND AS A
11:44:19AM COMMUNITY DETERMINES HOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE AS OFFICERS.
11:44:22AM WE TRY TO OFFSET TRAINING IN PRESIDENT MILITARY.
11:44:26AM THAT PLAY AS ROLE IN THAT DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVITY WITH THE
11:44:31AM SQUADS.
11:44:31AM IF THEY ARE SHORT.
11:44:32AM IF SOMEBODY IS TAKING TIME OFF.
11:44:35AM IF THEY ARE GOING FOR TRAINING.
11:44:38AM MAY BE OVERHIRING AND THAT IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT
11:44:40AM NEEDS TO BE HAVE.
11:44:41AM THEN DOWN TO THE REGULAR DEPLOYMENT, WHETHER WE ARE BEING IF
11:44:45AM HE CAN TESTIFY IN HOW WE HANDLE OUR MANPOWER.
11:44:48AM WHETHER WE ARE BEING EFFECTIVE ON THE SPECIAL EVENTS THAT WE
11:44:51AM HAVE.
11:44:51AM GASPARILLA.
11:44:52AM THOSE ARE BIG PARADES.
11:44:53AM THEY TAKE TIME TO PREPARE FOR.
11:44:56AM WE LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE, AND WE WORK WITH OUTSIDE AGENCIES
11:45:00AM TO MAKE SURE WE ARE EFFECTIVE.
11:45:01AM AND LASTLY, IT COMES DOWN TO THE TAMPA -- THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:45:08AM IS ALWAYS GROWING.
11:45:09AM THAT IS WHERE YOU CAN COME INTO PLAY AND THE CITY STAFF
11:45:13AM COMES INTO PLAY.
11:45:13AM WITH THE MANPOWER THAT WE HAVE BASED ON A NUMBER OF
11:45:17AM RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:45:18AM THAT IS KIND OF FLUID.
11:45:21AM EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE A GOOD STEWARD OF THE BUDGET,
11:45:25AM INCLUDING US AND OUR COMMANDERS AND THE UNION.
11:45:28AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THE NUMBERS ARE RIGHT.
11:45:30AM IF THAT IS GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION ON HOW MANY WE NEED AND
11:45:34AM HOW MANY WE DON'T NEED.
11:45:36AM WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
11:45:38AM THAT IS ALL I HAVE.
11:45:39AM THANK YOU.
11:45:40AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DO WE HAVE MEMBERS FROM THE PBA IN CHAMBERS?
11:45:46AM >> I TALKED TO OUR PRESIDENT YESTERDAY ON THE PHONE.
11:45:48AM HE WASN'T GOING TO MAKE IT TODAY.
11:45:51AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:45:52AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:45:53AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAYBE I AM CONFUSED.
11:45:57AM CAPTAIN, NICE PRESENTATION.
11:45:59AM YOU TRIED TO COVER SOME PACES, I MEAN -- BUT I THOUGHT WE
11:46:03AM WERE ASKING FOR A MASTER PLAN.
11:46:04AM I REALLY DON'T KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW -- LET ME FINISH.
11:46:10AM I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT A THIS IS.
11:46:13AM QUICK TALK WITH POLICE.
11:46:15AM TRYING TO INCREASE THAT AND MENTAL HEALTH.
11:46:16AM THIS COUNCIL DID THAT.
11:46:18AM I DON'T THINK THIS IS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR WHAT I WAS
11:46:21AM LOOKING FOR.
11:46:22AM I THINK WE WERE EXPLICIT LOOKING AT CHIEF BERCAW.
11:46:27AM LOOKING AT NUMBERS.
11:46:28AM THE COMMUNITY ARE SAYING THEY ARE NOT SEEING ENOUGH POLICE.
11:46:31AM I KNOW WE ARE TALKING OF A RATIO BUT THE CITY HAS GROWN FROM
11:46:35AM LEAPS AND BOUNDS.
11:46:36AM I GUESS I WAS HUNGRY FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE.
11:46:39AM I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD "FLUFF."
11:46:42AM BUT TO ME IT IS FLUFF.
11:46:44AM GOOD INFORMATION TO TELL PEOPLE, BUT TO ME, NOT GETTING THE
11:46:47AM NUTS AND BOLTS THAT THE COUNCIL WAS ASKING FOR.
11:46:50AM JUST MY OPINION.
11:46:50AM OTHER COUNCILMEN WILL CHIME IN HOW THEY FEEL.
11:46:53AM TO ME I AM HOOKING FOR NUMBERS.
11:46:55AM FRANKIE JONES AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES IN THE HIGH
11:46:58AM CRIME AREA ARE SAYING I DON'T SEE POLICE.
11:47:00AM I KNOW YOU -- THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CONCENTRATES ON BIG
11:47:05AM FOUR.
11:47:06AM YOU GUYS ARE DOING IT, THE BIG FOUR.
11:47:09AM I GET THAT.
11:47:11AM VIOLENT CRIMES ARE UP.
11:47:13AM I GUESS FOR ME I WAS LOOKING AT HOW WE ARE COMBATING THAT
11:47:17AM WITH LOOKING AT NEIGHBORHOODS, LOOKING AT D-1 HAS 267
11:47:22AM OFFICERS AND D-3 MAY NEED 350.
11:47:25AM THE BALANCE OF HOW THE CITY IS GOING AND WHERE OUR MOST
11:47:28AM VIOLENT CRIMES ARE, WHERE OUR BIG FOURS ARE HAPPENING AT TO
11:47:32AM SAY, OKAY, YOU MAY NOT NEED THAT NUMBER OF OFFICERS BUT THE
11:47:35AM CITY IS GROWING.
11:47:36AM BUT THIS SECTION OF TOWN IS GROWING.
11:47:38AM A NEED FOR ANOTHER DISTRICT MAYBE TO BE -- IT MAY NEED TO
11:47:44AM BE.
11:47:44AM THE SHERIFF FIVE OR SIX DISTRICT.
11:47:47AM THE CITY GROWN THAT WE NEED A FOURTH DISTRICT TO COUNTER
11:47:51AM WITH POLICE TO SAY WE HAVE LITTLE MORE CONTROL IN A CERTAIN
11:47:54AM AREA.
11:47:55AM EAST TAMPA A DISTRICT OF ITS OWN AND SOME OUTER AREAS BE
11:48:00AM ANOTHER DISTRICT.
11:48:01AM THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR HOW TO DO POLICING GOING
11:48:04AM FORWARD.
11:48:05AM I UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE HERE.
11:48:06AM IT IS NICE.
11:48:07AM BUT FOR ME GIVING YOU SURFACE STUFF.
11:48:10AM NOT A DETAILED PLAN AND MOVE FORWARD TO STAY SAY WE HAVE
11:48:14AM ISSUES IN CERTAIN AREAS HIGH CRIME AREAS.
11:48:18AM >> I WANT TO PUSH BACK WITH THAT, BECAUSE WHEN CHIEF BERCAW
11:48:22AM WITH THE PBA.
11:48:24AM HE SAID TO GET THAT INFORMATION, HE CAN TAKE TIME.
11:48:28AM I THINK HE MENTIONED THAT HE COULD NOT HAVE THAT BY MARCH
11:48:31AM 16.
11:48:31AM YOU ALL AGREED TO IT.
11:48:33AM TOLD TO COME HERE THREE WEEKS LATER AFTER HE LET YOU KNOW
11:48:36AM THAT THE INFORMATION IS GOING TO HARD TO GET BY MARCH 16.
11:48:41AM SO NOW WE ARE TASKED WITH COMING UP HERE TRYING TO GIVE YOU
11:48:45AM THE BEST SUMMARY THAT WE CAN IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
11:48:48AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A CONTINUANCE --
11:48:52AM >> THAT IS NOT -- NOT TPD'S FAULT WITH THAT WHEN IT COMES TO
11:48:57AM IT THE CRIME FIGHT, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:48:59AM YOU HAVE BEEN AN OFFICER.
11:49:00AM YOU KNOW WHAT GOES INTO THE DEPLOYMENT MEETINGS.
11:49:03AM IN THOSE MEETINGS, IT TALKS ABOUT THE GRID, THE ZONES, WHERE
11:49:09AM THE CRIME IS OCCURRING AT, THE ADJUSTMENTS.
11:49:11AM SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU JUST SAID, WE DO THAT ON A MONTHLY
11:49:16AM BASIS AND YEARLY BASIS.
11:49:18AM THAT IS PART OF OUR DISCUSSIONS.
11:49:20AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHY I JUST SAID WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, I
11:49:23AM DIDN'T REALIZE -- HAD I LOOKED AT IT -- I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED
11:49:26AM AT IT PRIOR AND SAY CALVIN -- CALLED CHIEF.
11:49:28AM THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
11:49:30AM WAIT FOR THE 16th.
11:49:31AM HOLD OFF UNTIL THE 16th AND SHOW A PLAN -- NOT A ONE-PAGE
11:49:37AM SUMMARY, SURFACE SUMMARY.
11:49:39AM I WILL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT AND I MISSED MY STAFF
11:49:42AM MEETING BECAUSE I HAD AN EMERGENCY, BUT IF I SAW THAT I
11:49:46AM WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING AT THE MEETING I THINK YOU NEED A
11:49:49AM CONTINUANCE INSTEAD OF PEOPLE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE
11:49:51AM MEAT.
11:49:52AM IF THAT IS THE CASE ARE, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
11:49:55AM BUT I THINK ON THE 16th WHEN THAT DATE COMES, IT NEEDS TO BE
11:49:58AM MORE DETAILED IF ANOTHER DISTRICT IS NEEDED.
11:50:01AM IF YOU NEED MORE OFFICERS OUT OF THE DISTRICT LOOKING AT A
11:50:06AM REAL PLAN GOING FORWARD.
11:50:07AM I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY, THIS STILL IS GROWING BY LEAPS
11:50:11AM AND BOUNDS.
11:50:11AM WE NEED MORE OFFICERS AND TRAINING COMES INTO PLAY.
11:50:14AM GETTING OFFICERS.
11:50:15AM BUT I JUST THINK FROM WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE SAYING -- WHAT I
11:50:18AM AM HEARING THAT THE CITIZENS ARE SAYING THEY DON'T SEE
11:50:20AM ENOUGH POLICE IN -- IF THAT THE CASE, THEN THAT IS A PROBLEM
11:50:24AM THIS COUNCIL IS GOING TOP HAVE TO DEAL WITH ANOTHER
11:50:27AM BUDGETARY YEAR.
11:50:28AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:50:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:50:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:50:33AM AND I WILL SAY THIS, I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN TOLD WHEN I FIRST
11:50:37AM STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS -- THE MASTER PLAN THREE YEARS
11:50:39AM AGO THAT FIRE DOES IT DIFFERENT THAN POLICE.
11:50:41AM SOME OF THE ISSUE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT VERY WELL IN TERMS
11:50:45AM OF YOUR DIFFERENT DEVELOPING NUMBERS, DEVELOPING NEEDS, ETC.
11:50:53AM WHAT I MOTIONED FOR -- I WILL BREAK IT DOWN AND BREAK IT
11:50:56AM DOWN FOR FIRE AS WELL.
11:50:57AM TO HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT.
11:50:58AM IF YOU NEED MORE TIME FOR THAT, THAT IS COOL.
11:51:01AM THAT IS FINE.
11:51:02AM I AM FINE WITH THAT WITH YOU GUYS.
11:51:03AM THAT IS FINE, BUT TO HAVE AN ANNUAL REPORT TO SHOW WHERE
11:51:07AM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT BELIEVES IT, RIGHT.
11:51:10AM WHERE THERE IS -- WHETHER AN ISSUE THAT SAYS, HEY, LOOK, THE
11:51:16AM MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, WE WANT MORE FUNDING FOR THAT.
11:51:19AM IT HAS BEEN WORKING AND WE WANT MORE FUNDING FOR THAT LONG
11:51:22AM TERM.
11:51:22AM IT IS KIND OF -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD "LOTTERY."
11:51:26AM BUT IF YOU GUYS CAME APRIL CROSS A BUNCH OF MONEY, WHAT
11:51:29AM WOULD YOU USE IT FOR NEEDS, RIGHT.
11:51:32AM THAT IS THE REAL QUESTION I AM LOOKING AT.
11:51:34AM NUMBER ONE, WHERE ARE THE DEFICITS.
11:51:38AM HOW MUCH MONEY WILL IT COST TO CURE THOSE DEFENSE SETS AND
11:51:41AM THROW THE BALL ON THE EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE BRANCH TO
11:51:45AM HAVE THAT DIALOGUE WITH CONSTITUENTS AND RESIDENTS ON HOW TO
11:51:49AM FUND THOSE NEEDS WHERE THERE IS PRESENTLY A DEFICIT.
11:51:53AM I CAN GLADLY MAKE A MOTION FOR YOU ALL SPECIFICALLY MAYBE TO
11:51:58AM COME BACK IN SIX MONTHS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE FOR THAT AND
11:52:03AM WHAT NOT FOR TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE,
11:52:08AM AGAIN, THERE IS -- THERE ARE SEPARATE HISTORIES WITH BOTH
11:52:12AM DEFENDANTS AND SEPARATE WAYS THAT FOLKS ASSESS NEEDS, ETC.
11:52:18AM THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING AT WHEN I STARTED THIS THAT THE
11:52:21AM ADMINISTERING WAS TALKING ABOUT A MASTER PLAN FOR PARKS
11:52:24AM AND REC.
11:52:25AM SOMEBODY SAID, WHY DON'T WE DO A MASTER PLAN FOR POLICE AND
11:52:28AM FIRE AND WHATNOT.
11:52:30AM A LOT WILL HAVE THE EMPHASIS, BY THE WAY, HAS BEEN ON TAMPA
11:52:34AM FIRE RESCUE A LOT ON TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND TOP DO A MOTION
11:52:43AM AT THE END FOR -- I DON'T KNOW, WHAT TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
11:52:47AM ONLY AND WHAT NOT.
11:52:50AM JUST TO CLEAR THAT UP.
11:52:51AM >> I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:52:52AM I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, THE CHIEF IS OUT WITH OUR
11:52:57AM ASSISTANT CHIEF.
11:52:58AM THE MAYOR WAS OUR CHIEF.
11:53:00AM WE CONSISTENTLY DISCUSS THE NEEDS OF TPD.
11:53:04AM PHONE CALLS EVERY DAY AT TIMES.
11:53:08AM MAKING SURE THAT POLICE HAVE WHAT WE NEED.
11:53:10AM LAST BUDGET CYCLE, WE GOT EVERYTHING.
11:53:14AM WHAT WE TRY TO DO WHEN I MENTIONED ONE TIME I WAS HERE IN
11:53:18AM THE PAST, TRYING TO GET GRANTS.
11:53:20AM TO HELP OUT WITH THE FUNDING.
11:53:22AM WE KNOW THAT EVERYTHING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NEEDS AND
11:53:28AM WANTS CANNOT BE IN THE OVERALL BUDGET.
11:53:30AM THERE ARE OTHER THINGS GOING ON.
11:53:32AM SO WE TRY TO THINK OF OTHER WAYS TO GET THE FUNDING TO HELP
11:53:35AM OUT WHAT WE NEED AS AN ORGANIZATION, BUT THERE IS ALWAYS
11:53:38AM COMMUNICATION WHERE THE CHIEF FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ON THE
11:53:43AM HEALTH OF TPD AND THE HEALTH OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:53:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:53:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:53:52AM I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION AND ALL THAT HAS BEEN SAID BY
11:53:56AM COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:53:56AM I HAVE BEEN MORE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT AS I DRIVE AROUND THE
11:54:02AM CITY GOING TO AND FROM OLDSMAR FOUR DAY AS WEEK, YESTERDAY
11:54:06AM ON HIMES AVENUE, I WITNESSED A FIRE RESCUE SERVICE VEHICLE
11:54:13AM THAT TURNED ON ITS SIREN AND HEADED EAST ON HIMES.
11:54:18AM -- I MEAN ON MLK AT HIMES.
11:54:22AM WHAT HAPPENS THERE IS HIMES IS TWO LANES PLUS A TURNING LANE
11:54:26AM TO HIMES HEADED EAST ON MLK.
11:54:28AM ONCE YOU PASS HIMES, YOU ARE DOWN TO TWO LANES.
11:54:31AM THERE IS NO MORE TURNING LANE TO GET IN.
11:54:33AM THE TIME THAT IT TOOK THAT RESCUE CAR TO GET THERE, NOW
11:54:39AM BEING TEN YEARS BACK, I WOULD IMAGINE IT IS TWICE THE TIME,
11:54:43AM BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC AT THAT TIME AT 5:15, 5:20 IS
11:54:49AM BUMPER-TO-BUMPER, NOT ONLY THERE BUT THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
11:54:51AM WE HAVE A PROBLEM OF NOT HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THERE
11:54:54AM LIKE WE USED TO.
11:54:56AM IRREGARDLESS OF THE POPULATION.
11:54:58AM MORE CARS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA PAUSE IT HAS BECOME A
11:55:01AM DESTINATION POINT.
11:55:03AM YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING HERE JUST TO LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE
11:55:07AM DONE AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO AND COMPLETE NOT ONLY US
11:55:09AM BUT THE GOOD MEN AND WOMEN OF ALL THE POLICE HAVE DONE HERE.
11:55:12AM YOU HAVE BEEN, IN MY OPINION, EMULATED AND PEOPLE WANT TO
11:55:21AM WORK AND PLAY LIKE YOU DO IN CITIES THAT ARE NOT THE CITY OF
11:55:24AM TAMPA.
11:55:24AM WHAT YOU AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE TO MAKE SURE THE
11:55:27AM PUBLIC IS SAFE IN THE CITY.
11:55:28AM IT IS TIME THAT WE LOOK NOT ONLY AS THE AMOUNT OF OFFICERS
11:55:31AM AND AMOUNT OF FIRE FIGHTERS WE NEED, BUT HOW DO YOU GET FROM
11:55:35AM POINT A TO POINT B, BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC IS SO CONGESTED.
11:55:40AM AND I WITNESSED THAT BACK TO OLDSMAR WHERE HILLSBOROUGH
11:55:44AM COUNTY IS AT AND THEY CAN'T ALSO GET THROUGH.
11:55:49AM THE CARS ARE PACKED .
11:55:54AM IF YOU DON'T -- YOU WILL HAVE TO GO AGAINST THE RED LIGHT TO
11:55:59AM GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND WE DO THAT.
11:56:00AM SOME OF US DO.
11:56:02AM SOME OF US DON'T MOVE AT ALL.
11:56:05AM I APPRECIATE YOUR CONCERN AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND I
11:56:07AM APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S CONCERN AND ALL OF US.
11:56:09AM I THINK WE WILL COME WITH A RESOLUTION WHAT WE WILL NEED IN
11:56:12AM THE FUTURE.
11:56:13AM AND MENTAL HEALTH, IN MY OPINION, IS TAKING A CREEK UPWARDS.
11:56:18AM WE DON'T BELIEVE -- SOCIETY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GOOD
11:56:24AM MEN AND WOMEN OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, TO US IT IS JUST AN
11:56:30AM ACCIDENT.
11:56:30AM TO THEM WHOLE AND IN PARTS, HAPPENING HERE, NOT ONLY HERE
11:56:36AM BUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
11:56:37AM SOONER OR LATER THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE LOOKING -- MEN AND
11:56:40AM WOMEN THAT ARE HERE TODAY.
11:56:42AM YOU HAVE TO START REALIZING THAT.
11:56:48AM WHAT AM I GOING TO SEE NEXT AND HOW AM I GOING TO TAKE IT
11:56:52AM HOME AND MY WIFE AND HUSBAND WILL -- MY CHILDREN, WHAT ARE
11:56:56AM YOU GOING TO SEE DADDY TODAY, OR MOMMY TODAY.
11:57:00AM HARD TO EXPLAIN TO YOUR FAMILY WHAT YOU SAW.
11:57:02AM MENTAL HEALTH LIKE WHAT MR. VIERA BROUGHT UP IS PARAMOUNT TO
11:57:06AM CONTINUE HAVING MORE MENTAL HEALTH ADVICE TO THE FIRE
11:57:09AM FIGHTERS AND THE POLICE.
11:57:10AM ALONG WITH WHAT THEY NEED TO MAKE THE CITY SAFE.
11:57:13AM I THINK MENTAL HEALTH IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE TO LOOK
11:57:16AM AT WHOLEHEARTEDLY TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE PREPARED TO CONTINUE
11:57:19AM TO SEE WHAT YOU SEE ON A DAILY BASIS.
11:57:21AM BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:57:24AM APPRECIATE IT.
11:57:25AM >> APPRECIATE IT.
11:57:27AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:57:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION AND WE HAVE HAD
11:57:32AM DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
11:57:34AM AND I -- I APPRECIATE THAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT THIS ON A
11:57:39AM WEEKLY, ON A MONTHLY, ON A YEARLY BUDGET BASIS.
11:57:43AM THAT IS -- THAT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY.
11:57:46AM THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING.
11:57:48AM I THINK WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS A LARGER PLAN.
11:57:51AM LIKE WHAT DO WE SEE IN FIVE TO TEN YEARS.
11:57:54AM WHAT IS THE PROJECTED -- WE HAVE TO LOOK AT PROJECTED GROWTH
11:57:57AM IN THE CITY.
11:57:57AM WE HAVE TO LOOK WHERE WE -- SHOULD WE HAVE MAYBE EVEN
11:58:02AM SOMETHING AS MR. MIRANDA TALKED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC AN OUTPOST
11:58:11AM IN OLD TAMPA OR NEW TAMPA SO OFFICERS DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL
11:58:15AM SO FAR WHEN THEY MAKE THOSE CALLS.
11:58:17AM WHAT ARE WE ARE UTILIZING IN THE FUTURE THAT ENCOMPASSES
11:58:24AM GROWTH.
11:58:24AM SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE NOT SEEING ON A DAILY BASIS BECAUSE
11:58:28AM YOU ARE NOT FOCUSED ON MAKING SURE WE ARE MOVING OFFICERS TO
11:58:31AM HOT SPOTS AND TO DEAL WITH THOSE ISSUES AND EXACTLY WHAT YOU
11:58:37AM SHOULD BE DOING.
11:58:37AM DO WE NEED TO -- DO WE NEED TO HIRE A CONSULTANT?
11:58:44AM ARE THERE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT JUST DO THIS THAT LOOK AT
11:58:47AM POLICE DEPARTMENTS AND SAY, OKAY, THIS GROWTH, WE ARE GOING
11:58:50AM -- WE EXPECT THIS.
11:58:51AM WE SEE THIS.
11:58:52AM WE CAN'T EXPECT TO YOU DO THAT WORK NECESSARILY BECAUSE,
11:58:58AM AGAIN, GROWTH IN OTHER THINGS THAT THAT IS NOT YOUR
11:59:00AM EXPERTISE.
11:59:01AM YOUR EXPERTISE IS DOING THE JOB.
11:59:03AM SO THAT -- THAT IS SORT OF WHERE I AM LOOKING AT WHAT --
11:59:07AM WHAT WE CAN SEE AS A -- AS A MASTER PLAN BEING WHAT DO WE
11:59:12AM EXPECT FIVE TO TEN YEARS IN THE FUTURE.
11:59:15AM AND, YOU KNOW, REVIEWING IT YEARLY.
11:59:16AM
11:59:17AM >> WE DO THAT, I GUESS TO ANSWER THAT. WHEN ORLANDO WAS ON,
11:59:22AM WE HAD NO DISTRICT IN NEW TAMPA.
11:59:26AM TAMPA PALMS.
11:59:27AM WE HAD TO MAKE OUR ADJUSTMENTS AND PUT SQUADS UP THERE
11:59:30AM SPECIFICALLY FOR TAMPA PALMS.
11:59:32AM BECAUSE OF THE DRIVE.
11:59:34AM I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE DON'T JUST FOCUS ON THE CRIME
11:59:37AM FIGHT EVERY DAY.
11:59:39AM WE FOCUS ON EVERYTHING.
11:59:41AM BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, WE DON'T CONTROL THE BUDGET.
11:59:47AM WE TRY TO ASK FOR WHAT WE ASK FOR TO BE SAFE.
11:59:50AM I THINK IT'S A TEAM EFFORT.
11:59:52AM CITY COUNCIL, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT,
11:59:55AM ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, OKAY.
11:59:57AM WE THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID.
12:00:01PM WE PUT FORTH THE INFORMATION FOR EVERY BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE
12:00:06PM ON WHAT TPD IS DOING AND WHAT WE NEED AND WHAT YOU PROPOSE.
12:00:13PM WHATEVER YOU DO FOR US WE GET OUT THERE AND GET IT DONE.
12:00:17PM WE DON'T COMPLAIN.
12:00:18PM OUR OFFICERS WORK THEIR TAIL OFF.
12:00:20PM THE UNION FIGHTS FOR THE MANPOWER.
12:00:22PM AND WE GET IT DONE.
12:00:27PM WE GET A PROPOSAL OUT.
12:00:29PM IF IT GETS APPROVED OR DENIED, WE DO OUR WORK.
12:00:33PM WE PROJECT OUT.
12:00:34PM BUT IT'S HARD TO PROJECT OUT WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH CRIME.
12:00:38PM AND YOU MAY HAVE AN INCREASE IN MAN MOWER, OR INCREASE IN
12:00:42PM PERSONNEL OR INCREASE IN CITIZENS, IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
12:00:45PM IN THE HIGH-RISES.
12:00:47PM ARE THEY THE ONES COMMITTING CRIME?
12:00:51PM THEY NEED EXTRA POLICE JUST BECAUSE THE NUMBERS ARE GOING
12:00:53PM UP?
12:00:57PM SO I GO BACK, AND I WAS RAISED IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:01:00PM I NEVER DEALT WITH THE POLICE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:01:08PM IS IT BECAUSE I WAS IN A BAD NEIGHBORHOOD OR GOOD
12:01:11PM NEIGHBORHOOD?
12:01:11PM I DON'T KNOW.
12:01:12PM THERE WAS EIGHT OR TEN OF US IN MY FAMILY.
12:01:14PM SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHO IS MOVING INTO TAMPA, WHO IS
12:01:17PM MOVING OUT, WHERE ARE THEY MOVING AT, ALL OF THAT COMES INTO
12:01:21PM PLAY.
12:01:21PM BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK BECAUSE THERE'S AN INCREASE IN
12:01:24PM PEOPLE MOVING TO TAMPA IT AUTOMATICALLY MEANS AN INCREASE IN
12:01:29PM PERSONNEL.
12:01:30PM BECAUSE EVERYBODY WHO MOVES HERE IS NOT A CRIMINAL.
12:01:34PM SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT WHENEVER YOU HEAR ABOUT AN INCREASE
12:01:38PM IN CITIZENS MOVING TO TAMPA.
12:01:41PM THERE'S AN OVERALL PICTURE THAT WE HAVE.
12:01:43PM THE UNION PLAYS A PART IN THAT.
12:01:45PM THE POLICE DO ON WHO IS MOVING HERE AND WHAT WE NEED TO DEAL
12:01:50PM WITH THAT.
12:01:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
12:01:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CHIEF BENNETT?
12:02:02PM THIS MIGHT BE MORE A HIGHER LEVEL QUESTION.
12:02:06PM >>JOHN BENNETT: SURE.
12:02:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT FIVE TO TEN-YEAR PLAN, I APPRECIATE
12:02:14PM THAT THEY ARE FOCUSED, THAT THE POLICE CHIEF AND DEPUTY
12:02:19PM CHIEFS ARE FOCUSED ON THE WEEKLY, DAILY, MONTHLY, YOU KNOW,
12:02:24PM YEAR BUDGET, BUT WHERE WE ARE, WE CAN TAKE A LONGER LOOK.
12:02:32PM >>JOHN BENNETT: SURE.
12:02:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE FOR US TO
12:02:35PM DO?
12:02:35PM IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CONSULTANTS CAN BE HIRED FOR WHERE
12:02:41PM THEY CAN WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT?
12:02:44PM AGAIN IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY, LIKE DEPUTY CHIEF JOHNSON
12:02:48PM SAID, THE POLICE TEND TO BE A LOT MORE FLUID MAYBE THAN
12:02:53PM FIRE, BUT AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA POINTED OUT, WE ARE TALKING
12:02:59PM ABOUT TRAFFIC, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NUMBERS, AND THE
12:03:03PM CITIZENRY ARE TELLING US, HEY, MORE PEOPLE, WE WANT MORE.
12:03:18PM [NO ENCODER]
12:03:33PM >>JOHN BENNETT: IT'S KIND OF THE IMMEDIATE NEED.
12:03:35PM BUT I THINK WHAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO THE WAY I KEEP
12:03:37PM LISTENING TO THE DISCUSSIONS IS REALLY MAKE A MORE ROBUST
12:03:40PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PORTION OF THE BUDGET WHICH HAS A
12:03:44PM FIVE-YEAR VIEW TO IT, WHICH DOES LOOK AT THINGS LIKE THE
12:03:48PM GROWTH CURVE.
12:03:51PM I DID A TEN-YEAR REVIEW OF A BUNCH OF DATA TRYING TO SUPPORT
12:03:55PM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S VIEW ON THIS, GOING INTO THIS BUDGET
12:03:58PM CYCLE, AND I THINK WHAT THE CHIEF CONVEYED TODAY IS KIND OF
12:04:02PM A TABLE OF CONTENTS OF THINGS WE ARE STUDYING TO COME BACK
12:04:05PM ON THAT HARD DATE, WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY IS LOOKING
12:04:08PM FORWARD TO.
12:04:09PM BUT I THINK THE ONE YEAR, FIVE-YEAR VIEW IS EXTREMELY
12:04:12PM IMPORTANT.
12:04:13PM THERE ARE SOME REPORTS THAT THEY DO ORGANICALLY THAT TAKE
12:04:17PM THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
12:04:18PM BUT I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL, WE
12:04:20PM REALLY HAVE TO LIFT THAT INTO -- THE PUBLIC IS NOT GOING TO
12:04:25PM READ THE THREE YEAR PLAN AS A RULE BUT THEY WILL READ THE
12:04:28PM FIVE-YEAR BUDGET ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
12:04:30PM SO WHETHER IT'S ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, ADDITIONAL LAND USE,
12:04:34PM ADDITIONAL FACILITIES, ALL THOSE THINGS SHOULD REALLY BELONG
12:04:39PM IN THAT PLAN AND I THINK WE CAN GROW INTO THAT MODEL AS A
12:04:42PM BIGGER CITY LIKE COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID.
12:04:46PM I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT.
12:04:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:04:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK, TALKING MORE TO MR. BENNETT THAN
12:04:57PM CHIEF JOHNSON, THE EXPECTATION THAT WE HAVE HAD I THINK IS
12:05:02PM TO HAVE A MASTER PLAN OR A STRATEGIC PLAN.
12:05:08PM I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS.
12:05:11PM SOMEHOW, WE HAVE TO GO DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT AND EXPLAIN
12:05:14PM IT TO EVERYONE.
12:05:15PM WE HAVE HAD, AND,COUNCILMAN VIERA BROUGHT THIS UP THREE
12:05:22PM YEARS AGO, I KNEW IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO, BUT DURING THAT
12:05:25PM TIME WE HAVE HAD TO BE FAIR FOUR CHIEFS AND A LOT OF CHANGE
12:05:31PM AND A LOT OF TURMOIL, AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE A
12:05:34PM FULL-TIME CHIEF.
12:05:36PM WE HAVE AN INTERIM CHIEF, AND THAT PROCESS WILL GO FORWARD
12:05:40PM IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
12:05:41PM BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE BEEN ASKING OVER AND OVER AGAIN
12:05:44PM FOR A PLAN.
12:05:45PM SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE ASKED TWO WEEKS AGO FOR A PLAN NOW.
12:05:48PM WE ASKED FOR A PLAN TWO YEARS AGO AND HAVE BEEN PATIENTLY
12:05:51PM WAITING AND THERE ISN'T A PLAN.
12:05:53PM WHEN I TALK ABOUT A PLAN, I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD BE
12:05:56PM TALKING ABOUT 20 YEARS, AND NOT JUST CAPITAL.
12:05:59PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU INCLUDE PEOPLE IN THE CAPITAL, BUT
12:06:03PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TALKS ABOUT HOW C.I.T. MAY GO AWAY, AND
12:06:07PM WHAT'S THE AGE.
12:06:08PM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT FIRE RESCUE IN A
12:06:11PM MINUTE BUT WHAT'S THE AGE OF POLICE CARS, THE AGE OF
12:06:14PM WEAPONRY, THE AGE OF THE FACILITY?
12:06:17PM WE KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO SELL THIS BUILDING AND BUILD A NEW
12:06:20PM COMPLEX.
12:06:20PM WHEN IS THAT GOING TO BE PUT INTO ANY KIND OF BUDGET?
12:06:24PM AND WHAT COSTS?
12:06:27PM WE KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME REVENUE FROM SELLING THE BUILDING
12:06:29PM BUT WHAT WILL THE NET COST BE EVENTUALLY?
12:06:32PM SOMEWHERE THAT SHOULD BE PENCILED IN.
12:06:33PM WHAT ABOUT THE SOFTWARE?
12:06:37PM WE KNOW GOING ON FIRE CALLS THAT THE SOFTWARE SYSTEM THERE
12:06:40PM IS WAY OUTDATED.
12:06:41PM WE HEAR FROM POLICE THAT THERE ARE TWO OR THREE SOFTWARE
12:06:44PM SYSTEMS THAT THEY HAVE PUT IN THERE, ADMIN INCREASING.
12:06:49PM SO WHAT WILL BE IN A 20 YEAR PLAN? CERTAINLY THERE SHOULD
12:06:53PM BE A ONE-YEAR AND FIVE-YEAR VIEW, BUT IT SOUND LIKE DAY TO
12:06:57PM DAY, MONTH TO MONTH, AND TECHNICALLY BY CHARTER, CITY
12:07:02PM COUNCIL CONTROLS THE BUDGET.
12:07:04PM BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST, AND THIS IS NOT JUST THIS
12:07:06PM ADMINISTRATION, IT'S BEEN CITY COUNCIL IS PRESENTED THE
12:07:09PM BUDGET AND A FEW COUNCIL MEMBERS MAKE TRADES TO GET THEIR
12:07:13PM VOTES ON SMALL THINGS, AND THEN THE BUDGET IS RUBBER
12:07:16PM STAMPED.
12:07:16PM IN THIS CASE, WHAT'S HAPPENED CLEARLY, WHAT THE ELECTION A
12:07:20PM COUPLE WEEKS AGO SHOWED IS THAT THE PUBLIC WANTS
12:07:22PM TRANSPARENCY, THE PUBLIC WANTS SITE LINES INTO WHAT'S
12:07:25PM HAPPENING, THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT'S ON THE HORIZON, WHAT THE
12:07:27PM PLAN IS, AND PARTICULARLY IN SOUTH TAMPA A PERCEPTION IS
12:07:30PM CRIME IS GOING UP, AND ALTHOUGH SOME PEOPLE WHIPPED OUT A
12:07:35PM LOT OF FALSE INFORMATION, THERE IS A GREAT INTEREST IN THE
12:07:41PM POLICE AND FIRE, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ADEQUATELY
12:07:45PM COVERED.
12:07:45PM SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO KNOW CLEARLY AND THE PUBLIC NEEDS
12:07:49PM TO KNOW, WHAT'S THE LONG-TERM VIEW OF THIS, IN A YEAR, FIVE
12:07:54PM YEARS, BUT EVEN MONTH TO MONTH DISCUSSIONS THOSE FEED INTO
12:07:56PM SOMETHING, AND I THINK THAT THEY CAN HAVE ALL KINDS OF
12:07:59PM CAVEATS ON THEM, EVEN SAY, LOOK, RIGHT NOW BASED ON TODAY'S
12:08:03PM BUDGET POLICE OFFICERS WOULD COST X.
12:08:07PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT A POLICE VEHICLE WILL COST FIVE YEARS
12:08:10PM FROM NOW BUT WE CAN PUT PLUS OR MINUS OR SAY THESE ARE
12:08:13PM ESTIMATES, WITH ASTERISKS NEXT TO THEM.
12:08:16PM JUST LIKE MR. WEISS SAID A FEW MOMENTS AGO, 77 MILLION ON 20
12:08:24PM YEARS FOR THAT TREATMENT PLANT.
12:08:25PM SO THE SAME THING THAT WE WOULD ASK FOR TRANSPARENCY UNDER
12:08:29PM THOSE HUGE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS WE WOULD ASK FOR THIS,
12:08:32PM WHICH IS THESE TWO AREAS, POLICE AND FIRE RESCUE, ARE TWO OF
12:08:35PM THE ONES THAT THE PUBLIC IS MOST INTERESTED IN.
12:08:41PM THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION JUST NOW ABOUT THE BUDGET
12:08:43PM TIME.
12:08:45PM AND YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF BRIEFING US AND THE PUBLIC
12:08:51PM IN ADVANCE OF THE BUDGET BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE A SITUATION
12:08:54PM WHERE THE POLICE HAVE A PRIVATE DISCUSSION WITH THE MAYOR'S
12:08:57PM OFFICE AND THEN COME BACK TO US AND PRESENT THE WHOLE
12:08:59PM BUDGET.
12:09:00PM THERE SHOULD BE A PROCESS BY WHICH THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS,
12:09:03PM IF WE ARE USING THE WRONG METRICS, IT'S NOT A RATIO OF
12:09:07PM NUMBER OF CITIZENS TO POLICE, THEN WHATEVER THE RATIOS ARE
12:09:11PM THAT PROVIDE THE SAFETY FOR THE PUBLIC, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT
12:09:14PM THOSE GOALS ARE CLEARLY LAID OUT, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE
12:09:17PM RATIOS ARE, LAID OUT, SO THEN WE AND THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW AS
12:09:22PM IT COMES BUDGET TIME THAT WE WILL HAVE THE EXPECTATION AND
12:09:25PM THE BUDGET WILL STAY THE SAME OR GO UP, NOT THAT SOMEBODY
12:09:27PM WOULD SAY, OKAY, HERE ARE THE GOODIES WE WANT THIS YEAR AND
12:09:31PM PLEASE INCLUDE THEM.
12:09:32PM WE WOULD HAVE OBJECTIVE MEASURES AS TO WHAT THE BUDGET WILL
12:09:35PM GO UP OR NOT.
12:09:36PM WHAT HAPPENS IF WE HIT A RECESSION AND THE IN BE FLUX OF
12:09:40PM PEOPLE IS NOT AS HIGH AS IT WAS?
12:09:42PM DOES THAT MEAN THE NUMBERS STAY THE SAME OR NOT?
12:09:44PM DOES THE ECONOMY GOING DOWN MEAN THERE'S MORE CRIME OR LESS?
12:09:48PM THERE SHOULD BE SOME METRICS FROM ALL THE EXPERTISE THAT YOU
12:09:50PM ALL HAVE AND WE IN THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW WAY IN ADVANCE OF
12:09:53PM THAT BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE BUILT INTO A PLAN.
12:09:57PM THEN THE PBA AND THE OFFICERS ON THE STREET HAVE INPUT.
12:10:01PM IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS I TALKED TO AS MANY OFFICERS AS I CAN
12:10:04PM ON THE STREET, AND AFTER GETTING PAST THEIR RESERVATIONS, I
12:10:08PM SAID WHAT DO YOU REALLY NEED?
12:10:11PM AND THEY HAVE TWO BIG CONCERNS THAT I HEAR.
12:10:12PM NUMBER ONE IS THEY REALLY BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE 200
12:10:16PM MORE POLICE OFFICERS.
12:10:17PM AND IF THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT NUMBER WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT
12:10:20PM WHAT IS THE RIGHT NUMBER.
12:10:22PM HOW WOULD WE FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT NUMBER?
12:10:25PM AND WE NEED TO HAVE INSIGHT INTO OHIO YOU ALL WOULD
12:10:29PM CALCULATE HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY OFFICERS WE NEED BEFORE
12:10:32PM WE GET TO BUDGET CYCLE, AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT
12:10:36PM SOMETHING LIKE 30% OF THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT OF POLICE ARE
12:10:39PM RETIRING IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, SO WE HAVE ALL THIS
12:10:43PM LEADERSHIP AND EXPERIENCE THAT'S LEAVING AND PEOPLE ARE
12:10:45PM VERY, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
12:10:47PM EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LEAVING ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY
12:10:49PM DON'T WANT THEIR LEGACY TO BE THAT THINGS DON'T RUN AS WELL
12:10:52PM AFTER THEY ARE GONE.
12:10:53PM [BELL SOUNDS]
12:10:54PM SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS SHOULD BE BUILT INTO THE PLAN AND
12:10:57PM ULTIMATELY THE GOAL IS NOT ONLY MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS
12:11:00PM SAFE BUT THAT WE PROVIDE THE RIGHT TRANSPARENCY TO THE
12:11:04PM PUBLIC AND THAT THE PUBLIC BUYS INTO THE PLAN, AND THE
12:11:08PM BUDGET.
12:11:09PM THANK YOU.
12:11:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:11:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER ABOUT BECAUSE
12:11:14PM POPULATION INCREASES, THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS ARE NOT, AND I
12:11:18PM THINK IT APPLIES TO POLICE AND FIRE, IS WE LIVE IN AN
12:11:21PM EVER-CHAINING CITY AND IT'S NOT ABOUT FAULT, WHY DO WE NEED
12:11:26PM SO MUCH PERSONNEL, BECAUSE THE POPULATION INCREASES.
12:11:30PM THE THING IS THE MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR OFFICERS AND OUR
12:11:33PM FIREFIGHTERS, THE AMOUNT OF STRESS.
12:11:36PM YOU DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN ANYBODY BECAUSE YOU WANT TO
12:11:39PM DELIVER A TONE LEVEL OF SERVICE REGARDLESS.
12:11:42PM WHEN IT COMES TO RESPONSE TIMES, WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC,
12:11:45PM AND THAT IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED BECAUSE, AGAIN, MAYBE IT'S
12:11:49PM BEYOND OUR CONTROL BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE,
12:11:52PM SO MANY CARS ON THE ROAD, MAYBE WE NEED MORE STATIONS, MAYBE
12:11:56PM WE NEED MORE VEHICLES, MAYBE SO WE CAN RESPOND -- AND I AM
12:12:01PM TALKING ABOUT BOTH FIRE AND POLICE -- SO WE CAN BETTER
12:12:04PM ACCESS AREAS THAT ARE CONGESTED AND THEY NEED MOWER AND WE
12:12:09PM NEED QUICKER RESPONSE TIMES AND GO OVER THAT QUALITY OF
12:12:11PM SERVICE.
12:12:12PM I THINK WE NEED MORE OFFICERS.
12:12:14PM I THINK WE NEED MORE COMMUNITY POLICING.
12:12:16PM I THINK WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE MENTAL HEALTH OF EVERYONE.
12:12:21PM AGAIN, WHAT YOU SEE DURING, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY, OFFICERS,
12:12:26PM PEOPLE IN UNIFORM, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH
12:12:31PM PEOPLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE POPULATION, AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW
12:12:34PM AND KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND.
12:12:37PM SO THAT'S IT.
12:12:39PM A LOT HAS BEEN SAID SO YOU APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION.
12:12:42PM THANK YOU.
12:12:43PM >> I WANT TO HIT ON ONE THING.
12:12:45PM WE DO HAVE RESPONSE TIMES, WE ARE DOING GOOD ON RESPONSE
12:12:48PM TIMES.
12:12:50PM THAT'S PART OF OUR INTERIM DISCUSSION THAT WE HAVE.
12:12:55PM THAT IS INTERNALLY REGARDING HOW WE ARE GOING TO DEPLOY
12:12:58PM UNITS EVERY YEAR.
12:13:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:13:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, THEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:13:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAKE THE
12:13:10PM MOTION SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN WITH EVERYBODY HERE,
12:13:14PM FOR THIS TO COME BACK, BUT I CAN DO IT AGAIN AFTER.
12:13:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL HEAR FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:13:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO KNOW WHAT I AM GOING TO SAY
12:13:24PM NOW WAS SAID OUT OF THE CLEAR BLUE SKY WASN'T INTENDED FOR
12:13:29PM EVERYONE BUT THIS COUNCILMEMBER NEVER TRADED VOTES WITH ANY
12:13:33PM MAYOR OR ANY COUNCILMEMBER EVER.
12:13:35PM I KNOW IT WASN'T INTENDED THAT WAY BUT I DON'T QUANTITY IT
12:13:38PM TO GO OUT SAYING WE TRADE VOTES.
12:13:40PM I TRADE WITH NOBODY.
12:13:42PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:13:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:13:45PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] THAT TAMPA IS A CITY
12:13:58PM WITHIN ITSELF. THAT'S WHY I SAY WE NEED TO LOOK AT ADDING
12:14:03PM ANOTHER DISTRICT.
12:14:04PM I WAS THERE WHEN IT FIRST CAME ABOUT.
12:14:06PM I WAS THERE WHEN DISTRICT 3 CAME ABOUT.
12:14:12PM THE OLD D-2.
12:14:14PM SO TIME DOES CHANGE THINGS.
12:14:15PM AND MAYBE WE ARE AT THAT TIME NOW THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AN
12:14:19PM ACTUAL PLAN GOING FORWARD TO SEE WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO, WHAT
12:14:25PM DO WE NEED, AND I HAVE ALWAYS SAID, NOW, I WORKED OUT THERE
12:14:30PM TWO MONTHS, I THINK, AND THAT IS A DRIVE OUT THERE, YOU
12:14:39PM KNOW.
12:14:40PM SO WHAT WHATEVER MR. VIERA'S MOTION IS, I HOPE IT WILL BE A
12:14:45PM PLAN TO SEE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE FUTURE.
12:14:52PM ALL DISTRICTS NEED IT.
12:14:53PM WE HAVE A BIG COUNTY.
12:14:54PM THIS COUNTY IS BIGGER THAN RHODE ISLAND, A STATE, YOU KNOW.
12:14:58PM AND THE SHERIFF NEEDS TO HAVE COVERAGE.
12:15:05PM WE ARE A CITY WITHIN A CITY, AND THE REGION, SO WHATEVER THE
12:15:11PM MOTION, I SUPPORT A REAL TRUE ACTUAL MASTER PLAN OF OUR
12:15:16PM POLICE DEPARTMENT, OF OUR CITY, TO SEE WHAT IT IS WE NEED
12:15:20PM AND HAVE A TRUE STUDY FROM SOMEBODY WE PAY FOR TO LOOK AT
12:15:23PM HOW WE GO FORTH IN THE FUTURE.
12:15:26PM >> I DON'T WANT COUNCIL TO THINK NEW TAMPA IS ON AN ISLAND.
12:15:32PM WE HAVE OFFICERS SPECIFICALLY FOR NEW TAMPA.
12:15:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M NOT SAYING THAT.
12:15:41PM THAT'S NOT WHAT I AM SAYING, SIR.
12:15:44PM WHAT I AM SAYING IS, NEW TAMPA IS A CITY IN ITSELF AND IS
12:15:47PM CONTINUING TO GROW.
12:15:49PM SO IF THEY DON'T GO PAST, THAT'S FINE.
12:15:53PM MY ISSUE IS THERE IS A CITY WITHIN A CITY ITSELF, SO AS
12:15:57PM THINGS GO UP, WE HAVE STILL GOT TO BRING PEOPLE UP TO NEW
12:16:00PM TAMPA, PERIOD.
12:16:04PM JUST ONE SQUAD UP THERE?
12:16:07PM HOW MANY SQUADS?
12:16:07PM I AM JUST SAYING.
12:16:08PM IF SOMETHING MAJORLY HAPPENS UP THERE YOU HAVE TO GET
12:16:11PM OFFICERS UP THERE.
12:16:12PM YOU HAVE TO GET PEOPLE UP THERE.
12:16:13PM AND I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE DEPUTY CHIEF AND YOU WORK FOR THE
12:16:19PM ADMINISTRATION.
12:16:19PM IT'S YOUR JOB TO PROTECT ADMINISTRATION.
12:16:22PM I GET THAT.
12:16:23PM WHAT I AM SAYING IS THIS.
12:16:24PM NEW TAMPA IS A PLACE OF ITS OWN.
12:16:27PM IT'S GROWING EVERY DAY.
12:16:28PM AND THIS COUNCIL IS JUST TRYING TO SAY WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
12:16:33PM GOING FORWARD AND THE CITY IS GROWING, YOUR STUDY, IT MAY
12:16:38PM NOT BE WARRANTED.
12:16:40PM WE DON'T KNOW.
12:16:41PM BUT I THINK IT'S VALID TO ACTUALLY HAVE THIS COUNCIL PAY TO
12:16:47PM HAVE SOME ACTUAL STUDY OF WHAT WE ARE ASKING AND LOOKING
12:16:51PM FOR.
12:16:52PM AGAIN, IT COULD BE LESS, IT COULD BE MORE.
12:16:55PM THANK YOU, SIR.
12:16:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:16:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. BENNETT, THE'S OTHER THING I WAS
12:17:04PM REMINDED JUST NOW IS A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS I HAD RECENTLY
12:17:07PM ARE KIND OF CODE ENFORCEMENT AND POLICE CONNECTED.
12:17:11PM FOR EXAMPLE, AIRBNBs WHERE THERE'S LOUD MUSIC PLAYING, A
12:17:18PM CITIZEN IS CONFUSED ABOUT WHERE THEY NEED TO CALL.
12:17:20PM THEY MIGHT CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT.
12:17:22PM CODE ENFORCEMENT SAYS TPD.
12:17:24PM TPD SAYS CODE ENFORCEMENT.
12:17:27PM THERE'S ALSO LIKE THE HOMELESS CAMPS SO YOU HAVE HOMELESS
12:17:29PM SERVICES THAT COMES OUT.
12:17:30PM YOU HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE THAT GO OUT AND YOU HAVE
12:17:34PM TPD COME OUT, MAYBE EVEN FIRE RESCUE.
12:17:36PM AND SO THERE ARE THESE AREAS WHERE WE PROBABLY NEED TO
12:17:41PM REORGANIZE AND LOOK AT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS CONNECTED TO IT
12:17:44PM BUT THERE'S A HUGE NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS COME IN NOW ABOUT
12:17:46PM THOSE AREAS, PEOPLE VIOLATING SOUND ORDINANCES AT NIGHT, AND
12:17:50PM SO WE NEED TO FIRST OF ALL TAKE CARE OF VIOLENT CRIME,
12:17:56PM PEOPLE DON'T LIKE CARS BEING STOLEN, THINGS STOLEN OUT OF
12:18:00PM CARS AND HOUSES, BUT THERE ARE THESE NUISANCE ISSUES THAT
12:18:03PM PEOPLE ARE VERY UPSET ABOUT IT.
12:18:05PM WE PASSED AN ORDINANCE TO STRENGTHEN THE FINE ON LEAF
12:18:09PM BLOWING BECAUSE WE HEARD ABOUT STORMWATER EARLIER.
12:18:11PM IT BLOCKS UP THE STORMWATER DRAINS WHICH COST MILLIONS OF
12:18:14PM DOLLARS FOR US TO GO BACK AND CLEAN BUT NOW THAT IS A COUPLE
12:18:17PM YEARS PAST PEOPLE ARE DUMPING THIS TIME OF YEAR ESPECIALLY
12:18:21PM HUGE AMOUNTS OF LEAFS INTO THE STORM DRAIN.
12:18:25PM PARKING IS THE SAME THING.
12:18:26PM SO I WOULD JUST ASK AS YOU ARE LOOKING AT THIS HOLISTICALLY
12:18:31PM BECAUSE IT CROSSES MORE THAN ONE DEPARTMENT, WE NEED A
12:18:34PM SEAMLESS WAY FOR PEOPLE TO REACH OUT AND WHO TO CONTACT AND
12:18:37PM IF THEY CALL ONE AND IT'S NOT THAT ONE, BUT THERE'S A
12:18:40PM SEAMLESS HANDOFF SO SOMEBODY IS TAKEN CARE OF AND FOLKS FEEL
12:18:44PM LIKE THEY ARE LISTENED TO.
12:18:45PM THANK YOU.
12:18:47PM >>JOHN BENNETT: SO QUICK FEEDBACK ON THAT ONE.
12:18:49PM THE CITY IS GOING THROUGH A COMPLETE REVAMP OF THE CUSTOMER
12:18:52PM EXPERIENCE.
12:18:53PM OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER, IT WAS A HOME GROWN PLATFORM.
12:18:58PM OCEA WYNN IS THE LEAD ON THAT.
12:19:00PM WE FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO GO
12:19:03PM THROUGH ONE CHANNEL, HIT MANY CHANNELS.
12:19:06PM SO THAT'S A COMPLETE REVAMP.
12:19:08PM I WILL SAY THAT CHIEF BERCAW REACHED OUT TO ME RECENTLY AND
12:19:12PM ASKED TEN YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS DOING THIS, WE HAD A WHOLE
12:19:15PM QUALITY OF LIFE MEETING, IN ADDITION TO THE CRIME MEETING,
12:19:18PM WHICH INCORPORATED HOMELESSNESS, CODE ENFORCEMENT.
12:19:21PM I BELIEVE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS STILL SITTING IN THEIR MONTHLY
12:19:25PM MEETINGS BUT WE DO NEED TO HAVE MORE SYNTHESIS IN THOSE
12:19:29PM EFFORTS IN THOSE AREAS THAT THE PUBLIC ARE CONCERNED ABOUT,
12:19:32PM WHICH ALL NEED TO FEED INTO IT.
12:19:34PM AND THE LAST COMMENT ON THE ONE-YEAR, FIVE-YEAR, 20-YEAR, I
12:19:38PM AM VERY CONFIDENT THAT WE PROBABLY HAVE THE RESOURCES AND
12:19:41PM EXPERTISE TO WORK ON A ONE OR FIVE.
12:19:44PM I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING IN PUBLIC SAFETY IN MY 35 YEARS THAT
12:19:48PM GOES BEYOND, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD POINTS BECAUSE I
12:19:50PM THINK THE CITY IS MOVING SO FAST.
12:19:53PM THAT'S THE ONLY SPACE THAT I WOULD ARGUE THAT THERE'S GOT TO
12:19:55PM BE SOMEBODY OUT THERE SMARTER THAN I AM THAT CAN DO THE 5
12:20:00PM AND 20, BUT I AM CONFIDENT WE CAN BRING TO YOU A
12:20:03PM WELL-DEFINED FAIRLY WELCOMING FORWARD.
12:20:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:20:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS TO COUNCILMAN
12:20:14PM VIERA.
12:20:14PM I KNOW YOU ARE COMING BACK WITH A PLAN TO BRING THIS BACK.
12:20:19PM BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT INTO IT, OR IF
12:20:24PM NOT, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST TO TALK ABOUT A FIVE TO TEN-YEAR
12:20:29PM PLAN, A CONSULTANT.
12:20:31PM JUST MAKING SURE.
12:20:32PM BECAUSE LIKE CHIEF BENNETT SAID, WE HAVE THE EXPERTS ON THE
12:20:35PM CITY HERE, BUT SOMETIMES WE CAN GO OUT AND ASK FOR OTHERS
12:20:41PM ADVICE WHERE THEY HAVE LOOKED AT THIS SAME TYPE OF GROWING
12:20:46PM PAINS IN OTHER CITIES.
12:20:48PM I THINK THAT CAN PROVE, AS YOU SAID, VITAL TO THIS PLAN.
12:20:54PM THANK YOU.
12:20:54PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WANT TO SAY, THESE ARE NOT THINGS TO HANG
12:21:00PM ON BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU TWO BAROMETRICS REAL QUICK.
12:21:04PM I LOOKED AT THE LAST FIVE-YEAR AND TEN YEARS INCREMENTS FROM
12:21:08PM RELIABLE SOURCES.
12:21:09PM WE HAVE HAD ACCORDING TO THE STANDARD POPULATION GROWTH BY
12:21:14PM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT WE HAD A 17.5%
12:21:18PM INCREASE IN POPULATION BUT OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE HAVE GONE
12:21:20PM DOWN 29%.
12:21:22PM AND A LOT OF THAT IS DUE TO THE POSITIVE PROGRAMMING IN
12:21:25PM PARKS, THE GOOD COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WITH POLICE, ARRESTS
12:21:28PM HAVE GONE DOWN 70% IN THOSE TEN YEARS.
12:21:32PM ALL OF THAT TIME OF DRIVING THE BOOK GETS REPURPOSED INTO
12:21:36PM POSITIVE ENERGY.
12:21:36PM SO I WOULD SAY THAT EFFICIENCY, EFFECTIVENESS AND EQUITY ARE
12:21:40PM REPURPOSED BACK INTO THE SYSTEM ALL THE TIME, AND THAT'S
12:21:44PM WHAT I THINK THE LEADERSHIP AT TPD IS DOING NOW, IS THEY
12:21:47PM ROLL OUT THIS DEPLOYMENT IN FEBRUARY, THEY WANT TO MEASURE
12:21:50PM IT FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS GOING INTO THE BUDGET, DO A GOOD
12:21:55PM ONE-YEAR REVIEW, GOOD FIVE-YEAR REVIEW AND THEN IF WE WANT
12:21:59PM TO CONSULT BEYOND THAT LOOK AT IT AND UNDERSTAND HOW IT
12:22:04PM WORKS.
12:22:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BEFORE YOU START, COUNCILMAN VIERA, THAT'S
12:22:07PM SOMETHING I WANT TO BRING UP.
12:22:09PM THE CITIZENS TO OFFICER RATIO AND THE CITIZEN TO FIREFIGHTER
12:22:12PM RATIO.
12:22:13PM AND MAKE SURE THAT'S KEPT UP TO NATIONAL STANDARDS.
12:22:16PM >>JOHN BENNETT: ABSOLUTELY.
12:22:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITHOUT A DOUBT.
12:22:20PM AS FAR AS BOTH ENTITIES, WITHOUT DISPATCH, YOU ALL CAN'T
12:22:30PM OPERATE.
12:22:34PM THAT NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO THE EQUATION, ALSO.
12:22:37PM SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
12:22:40PM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EQUIPMENT.
12:22:42PM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT VEHICLES.
12:22:43PM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
12:22:47PM THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE.
12:22:50PM YOU NEED TO COME BACK TO US WITH A PLAN.
12:22:53PM YOU NEED TO COME BACK TO US.
12:22:55PM SO WHATEVER CITY COUNCIL SUPP HERE CAN MAKE THE BUDGET
12:22:59PM RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE TIME, AND HOPEFULLY THE FUTURE CITY
12:23:04PM COUNCIL PEOPLE OUT THERE LISTENING THAT WHEN THE BUDGET
12:23:08PM REQUESTS ARE MADE, 10% MORE IS ADDED TO SET ASIDE IN CASE
12:23:16PM EMERGENCIES ARE NEEDED, OR FOR TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD A NEW
12:23:19PM FIRE STATION WE DESPERATELY NEED, OR A NEW SUBSTATION FOURTH
12:23:24PM POLICE THAT WE MIGHT NEED IS THERE AND READY FOR THE
12:23:28PM PICKING.
12:23:28PM SO THIS COUNCIL OR ANY COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND
12:23:32PM PLEAD FOR MORE MONEYS FOR THESE DEPARTMENTS.
12:23:36PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:23:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:23:38PM I MAKE A MOTION FOR -- NOW COMING BACK, FIVE MONTHS, FOUR
12:23:43PM MOMENTS, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS?
12:23:46PM BECAUSE MY THINKING THING IS, AND AGAIN I HAD THIS
12:23:48PM DISCUSSION WITH TAMPA FIRE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AND HAVING IT
12:23:51PM NOW I GUESS WITH YOU ALL.
12:23:52PM WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT IS THE TIME YOU ALL NEED TO COME BACK
12:23:55PM TO HAVE THE REPORT THAT COUNCIL HAS DISCUSSED THAT I AM
12:23:58PM GOING TO BE MOTIONING FOR, REALISTICALLY?
12:24:03PM AUGUST?
12:24:04PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK AUGUST WORKS WELL.
12:24:06PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOTION WAS FOR CHIEF BERCAW TO COME
12:24:09PM BACK.
12:24:13PM THERE WAS ALREADY A MOTION TO COME BACK FOR THE POLICE PART.
12:24:16PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DATE IS.
12:24:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THOUGHT IT WAS SEPTEMBER.
12:24:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT WAS THE MOTION?
12:24:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS SIX MONTHS.
12:24:26PM THAT WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 21st, A REGULAR MEETING.
12:24:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: CAN YOU SEE WHAT THE MOTION IS?
12:24:38PM STUMBLING OVER MY MOTIONS.
12:24:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT DOESN'T SHOW A WORKSHOP IN
12:24:41PM SEPTEMBER.
12:24:42PM I'M SORRY, SEPTEMBER 28th.
12:24:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: CORRECT.
12:24:49PM HOW ABOUT THEN I HAVE IT FOR THAT DAY IN SEPTEMBER.
12:24:51PM THAT WOULD GIVE YOU ALL --
12:24:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION?
12:24:56PM I DON'T SEE MS. FEELEY HERE BUT NORMALLY, AND MR. BENNETT,
12:25:01PM THAT WAS RESERVED FOR LAND USE AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
12:25:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
12:25:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEPTEMBER 21st.
12:25:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO, COUNCIL, ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER,
12:25:14PM PLEASE, WITH REGARD TO THESE DISCUSSIONS, YOUR RULES, I
12:25:19PM SUSPECT YOU ARE GOING TO BE ADOPTING, IS TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT
12:25:21PM OF TIME YOU SPEND ON STAFF REPORTS.
12:25:25PM [ LAUGHTER ]
12:25:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:25:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THE THING IS, IN
12:25:32PM PRACTICALITY AND WORKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, THE NUMBER
12:25:36PM OF STAFF REPORTS YOU SET IS GOING TO BE DETERMINED
12:25:41PM ESPECIALLY IF TAKEN UP IN THE AFTERNOON OR LATE IN THE
12:25:44PM MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON HOW MUCH TIME YOU HAVE TO GET
12:25:47PM TO IT BECAUSE MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE MINDFUL AS YOU MOVE
12:25:50PM FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO SET REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS SO WITH ALL
12:25:54PM THE PREPARATION THAT THE ADMINISTRATION GOES INTO PREPARING
12:25:56PM THESE THAT YOU ARE NOT AT THE END OF THE DAY AND HAVING ELSE
12:25:59PM IS CONTINUED DOWN THE ROAD, SO BE MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL OF
12:26:02PM THAT.
12:26:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO IF I MAY, HOW ABOUT AUGUST 31st?
12:26:07PM I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION IF I MAY FOR AUGUST
12:26:09PM 31st FOR THE ONE AND FIVE-YEAR PLAN THAT WILL ENCOMPASS
12:26:14PM THE FOLLOWING.
12:26:15PM AGAIN I AM GOING TO GO INTO DETAIL HERE.
12:26:17PM THIS WILL BE A COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS FOR TAMPA POLICE
12:26:19PM DEPARTMENT, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE OBVIOUSLY IS GOING TO BE A
12:26:24PM DIFFERENT THING, FOR THE DEFICITS IN TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
12:26:29PM WITH THE MONETARY AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO CURE THOSE
12:26:33PM DEFICITS.
12:26:34PM THIS WILL INCLUDE BUT NOT BE LIMITED TO ADDING DISTRICTS
12:26:37PM POTENTIALLY, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, MANPOWER, WOMANPOWER,
12:26:45PM RESPONSE TIMES, ET CETERA, AND WE WOULD REQUEST THAT A
12:26:47PM CONSULTANT BE USED FOR THAT.
12:26:50PM JUST TO HAVE THE MOST EFFECTIVE REPORT.
12:26:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES THAT INCLUDE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU
12:26:59PM NEED AND SO FORTH?
12:27:01PM THAT'S ANOTHER BIG ISSUE.
12:27:02PM AND IF IT'S GOING TO BE ELECTRIC, BECAUSE IT CHANGES REAL
12:27:05PM QUICK.
12:27:05PM HOW MANY CAN CHARGING AREAS WHERE WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE
12:27:11PM CITY TO CHARGE UP.
12:27:12PM BY 30-SOMETHING, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ELECTRIC CARS SO WE
12:27:18PM BETTER GET READY FOR IT.
12:27:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: EQUIPMENT.
12:27:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:27:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK A CONSULTANT, HIRING A CONSULTANT
12:27:27PM AND GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO BE MORE THAN A
12:27:30PM YEAR.
12:27:32PM SO I THINK MAYBE A PRELIMINARY OR MAYBE EVEN BY THEN THEY
12:27:41PM COULD COME BACK WITH EITHER THE RFP FOR THAT CONSULTANT, OR
12:27:47PM SOMETHING -- ESCROW.
12:27:54PM >>JOHN BENNETT: COMPREHENSIVELY, TWO OTHER INFORMATION
12:27:58PM SESSIONS, ONE HISTORICALLY WE HAVE WORKED WITH COUNCIL TO
12:28:03PM HAVE BUDGET WORKSHOPS THAT INCLUDE THE FIVE-YEAR PORTION.
12:28:07PM SO WE CAN MAKE SURE IN IS MORE ROBUST AS PART OF WHAT'S
12:28:11PM GOING INTO THE FISCAL YEAR THAN THE FIVE-YEAR, AND THEN OF
12:28:14PM COURSE THE DATE THAT YOU ARE SETTING, TO KIND OF TIE A BOW
12:28:20PM ON THAT.
12:28:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:28:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. BENNETT, AS I ALWAYS SAY TO YOU AND THE
12:28:25PM MAYOR PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY, YOU TWO ARE EXPERTS IN THIS
12:28:28PM AREA.
12:28:28PM YOU HAVE GOT A LOT OF EXPERTS INTERNALLY.
12:28:31PM YOU AND THE MAYOR EACH WERE CONSULTANTS ON THIS POLICING
12:28:35PM NATIONALLY.
12:28:38PM WE MAY HAVE OTHER LEADERSHIP THAT DOES CONSULTING.
12:28:41PM I THINK SOME OF THESE PLANS ARE TAKING THREE OR FOUR YEARS
12:28:46PM AND THIS ONE WE ARE KIND OF WORKING ON THREE YEARS.
12:28:48PM I WON'T ADD TO THE MOTION BUT I WISH BY THE UPDATE THAT YOU
12:28:52PM AND THE MAYOR WOULD WORK WITH THE INTERIM LEADERSHIP TO AT
12:28:56PM LEAST COME UP WITH A FRAMEWORK.
12:28:58PM YOU KNOW WHAT THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS ARE ON THE RATIOS.
12:29:01PM AND EVEN IF YOU CAN'T EXACTLY PROJECT HOW MANY YEARS, NOW
12:29:06PM WHAT THE RATIOS ARE AND SOMEBODY CAN PLUG IN THE NUMBERS AND
12:29:08PM FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROJECTIONS ARE FROM FIVE TO 20 YEARS
12:29:12PM AND AT LEAST IF WE KNOW WHAT THE GOALS ARE AND HOW -- AND
12:29:16PM WHAT THE INPUTS ARE TO BE ABLE TO FIX THOSE, IF WE HAVE A
12:29:19PM BASIC FRAMEWORK THAT'S A PAGE OR TWO, AND JUST LIKE MR.
12:29:23PM WEISS GAVE THAT UPDATE THIS MORNING, IT WAS LIKE ONE MINUTE
12:29:26PM BUT IT HIT ALL THE HIGH POINTS OF WHAT WE NEEDED TO KNOW,
12:29:29PM BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT ON
12:29:32PM POLICE, AND SATISFY THE BASIC INTERESTS OF THE PUBLIC TO
12:29:35PM HAVE THE INFORMATION.
12:29:37PM THANK YOU.
12:29:41PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I THINK IT'S A GREAT POINT TO METHODOLOGY
12:29:45PM TO SCALE.
12:29:46PM THAT'S WHAT I AM DOING.
12:29:46PM >> EXTENDING COUNCIL FOR ONE HOUR. 1:30.
12:29:54PM 1:30.
12:29:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LET'S GET DONE WITH YOUR MOTION FIRST. IF
12:29:56PM I MAY ASK THAT YOU ADD THE 10%.
12:29:59PM I SAW A LOT OF HEADS BACK IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM NODDING.
12:30:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: COULD YOU STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD SO I CAN
12:30:04PM INCORPORATE IT?
12:30:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHATEVER IS BUDGETED FOR THE NEXT BUDGET
12:30:08PM CYCLE, THAT 10% BE ADDED TO BE HELD IN RESERVE IN CASE
12:30:12PM FUTURE NECESSITY NEEDS, SO CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE TO COME
12:30:15PM BACK.
12:30:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AND AN AREA THAT CANNOT BE TOUCHED OTHER
12:30:22PM THAN --
12:30:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I WILL ADD IN THE 10% AND THEN
12:30:26PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S WISE SUGGESTION ON MAKING THIS A
12:30:30PM PRELIMINARY STATUS REPORT ON THE CONSULTANT BECAUSE I WAS A
12:30:35PM LITTLE TOO OPTIMISTIC.
12:30:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:30:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M SURE MR. ROGERO WOULD HAVING TO SOME SAY
12:30:45PM ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST UNDERSTANDING,
12:30:49PM LIKE WE HAVE A ROBUST SET-ASIDE, SO I DON'T KNOW IF MAYBE
12:30:53PM THE SET-ASIDES WE ALREADY HAVE WE CAN PORTION SOME OUT FOR
12:30:58PM POLICE.
12:31:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY.
12:31:01PM I APOLOGIZE.
12:31:01PM THIS WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FOR FIRE AND POLICE.
12:31:04PM THEY WON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO MR. ROGERO AND ASK HIM ABOUT
12:31:07PM IT.
12:31:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE A SET-ASIDE POT THAT IS
12:31:13PM GENERAL.
12:31:13PM IF WE COULD -- I THINK IF MR. ROGERO WERE TO COME AS PART OF
12:31:19PM THIS, HE COULD TALK ABOUT THE IDEA OF APPORTIONING SOME OF
12:31:24PM THAT TO CERTAINLY BE USED.
12:31:26PM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ADDING MORE TO THAT.
12:31:28PM BUT LOOKING AT WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY, HE MAY HAVE A PLAN FOR
12:31:32PM THAT WITH THE SET-ASIDE MONEY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
12:31:36PM I AM JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT BEFORE GOING FORWARD.
12:31:39PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I CLEARLY WON'T SPEAK FOR HIS BRILLIANCE
12:31:43PM BUT I WILL SAY IS I THINK WHAT I AM HEARING IS A PUBLIC
12:31:45PM SAFETY RESERVE, FROM OTHER RESERVES.
12:31:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED --
12:31:54PM >>JOHN BENNETT: WE HAVE PERSONNEL RESERVES, EMERGENCY
12:31:56PM RESERVES, FUND BALANCE, SO WE ARE LOOKING TO MAYBE LOOK AT A
12:32:00PM PUBLIC SAFETY RESERVE.
12:32:01PM AND I WILL SOCIALIZE THAT WITH HIM AND UPDATE COUNCIL IN THE
12:32:04PM MEANTIME.
12:32:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WITH SPECIFIC DESIGNATION THAT IT NOT BE
12:32:08PM TOUCHED FOR ANYTHING ELSE EXCEPT PUBLIC SAFETY.
12:32:11PM >>JOHN BENNETT: AND THE BEAUTY OF THAT IS THAT WOULD HAVE
12:32:14PM TO COME TO COUNCIL FOR A BUDGET AMENDMENT ANYWAY SO IT'S GOT
12:32:17PM THE GUARDIANSHIP.
12:32:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S ALL PART OF THIS.
12:32:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:32:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:32:24PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
12:32:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
12:32:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:32:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:32:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:32:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:32:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:32:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
12:32:36PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:32:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU WANTED TO MAKE A
12:32:40PM STATEMENT.
12:32:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO EXTEND THE COUNCIL TIME
12:32:43PM TO 1:30.
12:32:45PM >> SECOND.
12:32:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MADE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:32:48PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:32:49PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:32:50PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:32:51PM MOTION PASSES.
12:32:53PM CHIEF TRIPP.
12:32:54PM WE ARE NOW ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9, CM 22-78782.
12:33:08PM STILL ON AGENDA 8.
12:33:09PM WE GO TO NUMBER 9.
12:33:15PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF.
12:33:17PM I HAVE PART OF MY ADMINISTRATION HERE AS WELL AS IN THE
12:33:19PM AUDIENCE, AND JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR LOOKING INTO A
12:33:25PM PLAN AS FAR AS FOR THE FUTURE OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE. I WANT
12:33:28PM TO THANK LOCAL 754 AND ITS MEMBERS FOR COMING HERE AS WELL.
12:33:33PM SO TO PRETTY MUCH ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS WHEN IT COMES
12:33:36PM TO PUBLIC SAFETY, AS FAR AS WHAT WE NEED, WHAT WE DON'T
12:33:39PM NEED, I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER VIERA ASKED FOR A MASTER PLAN
12:33:45PM PRIOR TO GIVING THIS POSITION.
12:33:46PM SO WHEN I GOT IN THIS POSITION OF COURSE NOT KNOWING
12:33:49PM ANYTHING OR HAVING ANYTHING, STARTING IT FROM SCRATCH.
12:33:51PM FOR THE LAST 21 MONTHS, BEING SWORN AND THIS ADMINISTRATION
12:33:56PM HAVE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE CONCERNS OF WHAT WE FOUND,
12:34:00PM OKAY.
12:34:01PM EVERY DAY I AM FINDING SOMETHING OUT ABOUT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE
12:34:03PM WHEN IT COMES TO EQUIPMENT.
12:34:04PM YOU WANT TO PUT THE BULLETS UP, I CAN PUT THOSE UP AS WELL
12:34:08PM SO THAT YOU HAVE THEM.
12:34:13PM THESE ARE SOME BULLET POINTS THAT I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN
12:34:20PM DISCUSSING.
12:34:20PM ONCE AGAIN I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A MASTER PLAN BECAUSE I
12:34:25PM NOTICE FROM THE PREVIOUS ACCREDITATION THAT WE DID A
12:34:29PM STRATEGIC PLAN THAT GOES ALONG WITH ACCREDITATION.
12:34:31PM SO TALK ABOUT STRATEGIC PLAN, LIKE A FIVE-YEAR PLAN OF WHAT
12:34:34PM THEY ARE LOOKING FOR AND TO TRY TO MAKE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE
12:34:40PM THE BEST DEPARTMENT NOT ONLY IN TAMPA -- I'M SORRY, IN
12:34:43PM FLORIDA, BUT IN THE NATION AS WELL.
12:34:45PM SO AS WE TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT BULLETS HERE, THE FIRST
12:34:48PM CONCERN WE TALKED ABOUT ENSURING THE HEALTH AND SAFETY AND
12:34:52PM WELFARE OF SWORN AND NONSWORN.
12:34:55PM OF COURSE THAT IS MY TOP PRIORITY TO MAKE SURE THESE
12:34:58PM FIREFIGHTERS ON THE STREET ARE DEFINITELY PROTECTED BOTH
12:35:01PM MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS
12:35:05PM ADMINISTRATION IS THERE FOR THEM.
12:35:07PM SO WHEN I CAME IN, WE HAD A LINE OF DUTY INTERLACED THAT WAS
12:35:11PM OVER 40 PEOPLE.
12:35:12PM WE ARE DOWN NOW TO 20.
12:35:14PM WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE IS BASED ON THE EQUIPMENT WE HAVE AT
12:35:17PM THE SCENE, INCREASED THE BIKE INJURIES, WE ACTUALLY HAVE
12:35:24PM HEALTH, DEPARTMENT AS WELL, OF COURSE TO ASSIST WITH ANY
12:35:27PM TYPE OF MENTAL HEALTH.
12:35:28PM AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS OUT THERE, IF PEOPLE ARE
12:35:34PM INVOLVED INTO LIKE A SERIOUS SITUATION TO HELP WITH THAT
12:35:37PM MENTAL HEALTH PART.
12:35:39PM WHEN I TALK ABOUT DECREASING THOSE NUMBERS, BECAUSE IF I
12:35:44PM DON'T MAKE MY CREW HAPPY, OR SAFE, THEY CANNOT BE ON THE
12:35:49PM STREET.
12:35:50PM SO THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.
12:35:51PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE SAFE.
12:35:54PM SUSTAIN OUR NATIONAL ACCREDITATION, OF COURSE THAT'S THE
12:35:58PM ACCREDITATION ON FIRE, SO BASICALLY THIS IS OUR -- WE JUST
12:36:03PM RECEIVED OUR THIRD ACCREDITATION, OF COURSE.
12:36:05PM ONCE AGAIN DURING THE INTERIM OF TIME WHEN I BECAME INTERIM
12:36:09PM WITHIN TWO WEEKS WE HAD TO STEP UP TO THE ACCREDITATION.
12:36:11PM SO ONCE AGAIN JUST TRYING TO SEE WHAT THE PREVIOUS
12:36:14PM ADMINISTRATION HAD AND GOING OVER ALL THE INFORMATION TO
12:36:16PM MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT ACCREDITATION
12:36:20PM AGAIN.
12:36:20PM SO WHAT THAT ACCREDITATION IS, IT EMPOWERS TAMPA FIRE RESCUE
12:36:26PM TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON THE RISK IN THE AREAS AND HOW
12:36:29PM TAMPA FIRE IS PREPARED FOR THESE ASSESSMENTS.
12:36:32PM SO THIS ACCREDITATION ACTUALLY SHOWS THE STRENGTH OF TAMPA
12:36:35PM FIRE RESCUE AS WELL AS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY MIGHT
12:36:38PM HAVE FOR US, AND OF COURSE THEY HAD A COUPLE OF
12:36:41PM RECOMMENDATIONS, AND OF COURSE THIS ADMINISTRATION IS ALSO
12:36:43PM BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
12:36:44PM SO ONCE AGAIN THESE LAST 21 MONTHS WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO
12:36:49PM TRY TO MAINTAIN THAT ACCREDITATION, SO TIME TO MAKE SURE
12:36:55PM WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO TAMPA FIRE RESCUE BEING THE BEST OF
12:36:58PM THE BEST, THAT ACCREDITATION, IS IDENTIFIED.
12:37:03PM AND INDUSTRIAL STANDARD FOR EMS PARTNERS.
12:37:07PM WE KNOW THE RESPONSE TIME HAS BEEN A BIT OF CONCERN WITHIN
12:37:10PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:37:11PM A LOT WAS THE REHAB, THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT, WHEN YOU TALK
12:37:16PM ABOUT DISPATCH, DISPATCH GOING OUT.
12:37:18PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS WAY PRIOR TO THIS ADMINISTRATION
12:37:21PM HERE, AND OF COURSE WITH THE CHANGE OF ADMINISTRATION, WE
12:37:24PM HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO TRY TO GET THAT TAKEN CARE
12:37:27PM OF.
12:37:28PM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A UNIT TO GO RESPONDING TO A CALL, OF
12:37:31PM COURSE, ONCE AGAIN, DISPATCH SYSTEM, OUR COMPUTER AID
12:37:40PM DISPATCH SYSTEM THAT'S OUT THERE NOW, OVER 28 YEARS OLD.
12:37:43PM OF COURSE, ONCE AGAIN THIS ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING TO FIND
12:37:45PM THE BEST VENDOR TO PROVIDE THAT.
12:37:48PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE PREVIOUS VENDOR THAT WAS THERE
12:37:53PM REALIZING THAT PROGRAM WASN'T GOING TO WORK FOR TAMPA FIRE
12:37:59PM RESCUE, IT WAS DISCONTINUED.
12:38:01PM WE SHALL IN THE PROCESS NOW JUST IF YOU PLEASE IRK UP THE
12:38:04PM RFP FOR THAT.
12:38:05PM WE SHOULD BE SELECTING A VENDOR TO HELP US GET THAT COMPUTER
12:38:10PM UPDATED TECHNOLOGY COMPUTER AID DISPATCH SYSTEM.
12:38:17PM WE ALSO HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH LOCAL DEPARTMENTS.
12:38:19PM OF COURSE WITH THE HOSPITALS.
12:38:20PM AS YOU KNOW, SOME OF YOU ALL WENT TO SOME OF THE EMPC
12:38:24PM MEETINGS AND SAW THAT RESPONSE.
12:38:28PM THE TIME BEING AT THE HOSPITAL HAS BEEN DECREASED.
12:38:32PM WE ALSO WORK WITH LOCAL BLS UNITS AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THEY
12:38:35PM ARE AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO RUN SOME OF THE CALLS THAT SHALL
12:38:38PM NON-ALS UNITS SO THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
12:38:44PM ON ALSO.
12:38:46PM BEING IN THIS POSITION, AND AS I TALKED TO THIS
12:38:48PM ADMINISTRATION, SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW HOW WE HAVE DONE IT,
12:38:52PM BUT I REALIZE THAT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE HAS BEEN WORKING
12:38:55PM INEFFECTIVE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND MY GOAL IS TO TRY TO
12:38:59PM TURN THAT AROUND AND MAKE SURE WE ARE WORKING EFFECTIVELY
12:39:01PM FOR THE COMMUNITY AND AS WELL AS PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH US,
12:39:06PM OUR CO-WORKERS.
12:39:07PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, ONE OF THE THINGS I AM LOOKING TO DO
12:39:09PM IS KIND OF REORGANIZE THE STRUCTURE OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
12:39:12PM WAY MEAN BY THAT IS I WANT TO REAL-INDICATE RESOURCES TO
12:39:17PM WHERE IT'S NEEDED.
12:39:18PM WE TALK ABOUT DOWNTOWN TAMPA, WE HAVE A LOT OF HIGH-RISES
12:39:23PM GOING UP, WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT EQUIPMENT DOWN HERE.
12:39:25PM YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ONE PARTICULAR DISTRICT THAT HAS TWO
12:39:29PM AERIAL LADDERS WITHIN TWO MILES AND NO HIGH-RISES THERE.
12:39:33PM THAT SHOULD BE SHOULD BE WHERE THE RESOURCES IS NEEDED.
12:39:36PM AND I AGREE, DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
12:39:40PM BUT AS WE LOOK AT SOME OF OUR STATIONS, I AM GOING TO SPEAK
12:39:42PM ABOUT STATION 19, WHICH IS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:39:47PM I WAS ON A JOB, BUT I WASN'T ONE MAKING DECISIONS WHEN THEY
12:39:52PM REBUILT THE STATION, DID NOT PUT A RESCUE CAR THERE.
12:39:55PM THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PLUS.
12:39:56PM THAT'S A BRAND NEW STATION.
12:39:57PM IT HAS THE OVERHEAD, A RESCUE CAR SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE
12:40:01PM FROM DAY ONE.
12:40:01PM ONCE AGAIN WITHIN THE LAST 21 MONTHS THIS ADMINISTRATION SAW
12:40:04PM THAT, LET'S SEE HOW WE CAN -- WHEN I SAY PUTTING RESOURCES
12:40:08PM WHERE THEY NEED TO PUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A STATION, ONE OF
12:40:11PM MY SPECIALTY STATIONS, THE EQUIPMENT FOR THAT SPECIALTY
12:40:14PM STATION IS LOCATED IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
12:40:16PM OKAY.
12:40:17PM ALL THAT EQUIPMENT SHOULD BE IN ONE LOCATION.
12:40:19PM OKAY.
12:40:20PM I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH REAL ESTATE TRYING TO FIND A
12:40:22PM PERFECT LOCATION TO MAKE SURE THAT STATION IS, AND EQUIPMENT
12:40:27PM IS ALL IN ONE-STOP SHOP BECAUSE NOW IF SOMETHING WAS TO
12:40:30PM HAPPEN, I HAVE TO HAVE A UNIT OR PERSONNEL TO GO RETRIEVE
12:40:36PM THOSE EQUIPMENTS FROM TWO DIFFERENT AREAS, ONE WAY DOWN IN
12:40:39PM SOUTH TAMPA, ONE IN YBOR CITY.
12:40:40PM SO MY GOAL, WHEN I SAY WE ARE REALLOCATING, PUTTING THOSE
12:40:45PM RESOURCES WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE.
12:40:46PM I HAVE ADDITIONAL STATIONS THAT DON'T HAVE ALS UNITS THERE.
12:40:50PM WHY?
12:40:50PM I DON'T KNOW.
12:40:51PM BUT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AS FAR AS INCREASING, WHEN I SAY
12:40:56PM DORMITORY, THE SPACES FOR THE INDIVIDUALS TO EVENTUALLY MOVE
12:40:58PM THEM IN THERE.
12:41:00PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, WHEN I TALK ABOUT FIRE SUPPRESSION
12:41:05PM STANDARDS, THAT'S ALSO ONCE WE GET THESE RESOURCES OUT THERE
12:41:08PM THAT'S GOING TO HELP DECREASE THE USE OF SOME OF THE
12:41:11PM APPARATUS THAT SHOULD NOT BE GOING ON CALLS, AND THAT'S MY
12:41:14PM PLAN.
12:41:15PM SUSTAIN AND IMPROVE FOR THE CITY.
12:41:18PM SO BASICALLY RIGHT NOW THE ISO IS RATING 2.
12:41:21PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO TRY TO GET THE ISO RATED 1 BECAUSE
12:41:24PM ONCE AGAIN THAT DOES HELP THE COMMUNITY WITH THEIR
12:41:27PM ASSURANCE.
12:41:28PM SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE
12:41:29PM ISO DEPARTMENT IS TO -- WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT, EACH
12:41:34PM ONE OF THE ADMINISTRATORS DIVISION CHIEFS HAVE BEEN WORKING
12:41:37PM ON THAT TO MAKE SURE WHEN IT'S TIME FOR US TO GET RENEWED
12:41:40PM THAT WE SHOULD BE VERY CLOSE, IF NOT RECEIVING THE ISO
12:41:44PM RATING OF 1, AND OF COURSE THAT'S GOING TO HELP OUT THE CITY
12:41:47PM OF TAMPA.
12:41:48PM AND OF COURSE IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, OF COURSE,
12:41:52PM THAT JUST SHOWS HOW WE PREPARE, OR PREPARE FOR ANY TYPE OF
12:41:57PM FIRES IN THE CITY.
12:42:01PM SEEK SITE CONTROL FOR NECESSARY FIRE STATIONS FOR NOW AND IN
12:42:05PM THE FUTURE.
12:42:06PM ONCE AGAIN THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, STATION 24,
12:42:09PM CROSS OUR FINGERS.
12:42:10PM WE HAVE A LOCATION.
12:42:11PM WE ARE JUST GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS NOW OF GETTING IT
12:42:13PM SURVEYED.
12:42:14PM BECAUSE 21 MONTHS AGO, PROBABLY A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT
12:42:19PM WHEN I WAS TOLD THAT NORTH TAMPA NEEDED HELP, THIS
12:42:23PM ADMINISTRATION MADE SOME CHANGES TO IT.
12:42:25PM BUT NOW WHERE ONE ENGINE WAS RUNNING MORE CALLS THAN THE
12:42:30PM ENTIRE CITY, WE PUT ANOTHER SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE UP THERE
12:42:33PM AS WELL.
12:42:34PM NOW WE KIND OF EQUALIZE.
12:42:36PM NOW WE HAVE TO FIND THE LOCATION TO PUT THAT.
12:42:38PM AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR LIKE I SAY IS UP IN THE
12:42:40PM NORTH TAMPA AREA, AND WE ARE HOPING THAT THE RESULTS COME
12:42:44PM BACK REAL SOON SO WE CAN GET THAT STATION BUILT.
12:42:49PM WHEN I TALK ACQUIRING PROPERTY AS I STATED EARLIER, I HAVE
12:42:52PM BEEN WORKING WITH REAL ESTATE.
12:42:54PM WE HAVE SOME LEADS ON SOME AREAS IN A PARTICULAR AREA FOR
12:42:56PM THAT SPECIALTY UNIT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET THE
12:42:59PM RESOURCES WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO.
12:43:01PM SO THAT HAS BEEN WORKING.
12:43:02PM I HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.
12:43:04PM I HAVE WEEKLY MEETINGS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO MAKE
12:43:08PM SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES AND THE CODES OF
12:43:11PM THE CITY OF TAMPA TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE
12:43:14PM NEED AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THE PAPERWORK AND STUFF IS DONE,
12:43:17PM AND DONE AND COMPLETED, AND COMPLETED IN A PROFICIENT TIME.
12:43:22PM WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WE ARE TALKING
12:43:24PM ABOUT FACILITY FLEET TO SEE WHERE OUR EQUIPMENT IS.
12:43:27PM ONCE I GOT HERE, ONCE AGAIN IN THIS POSITION, JUST TO SEE
12:43:31PM THE OUTDATED EQUIPMENT, I REACHED OUT TO THE CFO AS WELL AS
12:43:37PM THE FLEET DEPARTMENT, AS WELL, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET
12:43:41PM THINGS TAKEN CARE OF.
12:43:42PM NOW GRANTED BECAUSE OF COVID, WE HAVE HAD A DELAY WHEN IT
12:43:47PM COMES TO MANUFACTURERS, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH BEEN LIKE A
12:43:52PM 24-POINT TURN WHAT ROUND WITH ANY APPARATUS THAT WE CAN
12:43:56PM PURCHASE.
12:43:56PM AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
12:43:58PM YESTERDAY WE WENT TO WINTER HAVEN TO OVERSEE 15 -- ACTUALLY
12:44:04PM FROM THIS COMPANY THAT WE HAVE ORDERED, PAID FOR LAST YEAR
12:44:07PM AND THEY SHOULD BE HERE WE ARE HOPING AND PLANNING FOR THE
12:44:09PM END OF THIS YEAR IN F NOT THE FIRST OF NEXT YEAR.
12:44:13PM THAT'S 15 UNITS WITHIN THESE 21 MONTHS.
12:44:15PM WE HAVE ORDERED THREE ADDITIONAL ENGINES.
12:44:18PM WE GOT ONE TILLER ON THE WAY.
12:44:20PM WE ORDERED TWO HEAVY RESCUE UNITS.
12:44:22PM WE HAVE ORDERED THREE ENGINES TWO, HEAVY DUTY RESCUES, A
12:44:29PM TILLER, AS WELL AS THE 15 RESCUE CARS.
12:44:33PM THANK YOU.
12:44:37PM SO MY NEXT BULLET IS TALKING ABOUT DIVERSE RECRUIT, SELECT,
12:44:41PM TRAIN AND RETRAIN THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST.
12:44:46PM SO HERE, ONCE AGAIN, THE BUDGET FOR 2021 WAS ALREADY
12:44:51PM COMPLETED PRIOR TO ME GETTING IN THIS POSITION.
12:44:53PM WHEN I CAME IN AND FOR 22 BUDGET, I WENT TO ADMINISTRATION
12:44:57PM AND SAYS, I NEED 30 MORE PEOPLE TO HELP PUT THEM WHERE THEY
12:45:02PM NEED TO GO, THE RESOURCES WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.
12:45:05PM THEY GAVE ME 57.
12:45:06PM SO WHAT I AM DOING NOW, OR THIS ADMINISTRATION IS DOING THAT
12:45:08PM WE ARE HIRING, EVERY CHANCE WE GET WE BRING INDIVIDUALS IN,
12:45:12PM MAKE SURE WE GET THE APPROPRIATE INDIVIDUALS FOR WHAT WE
12:45:16PM NEED TO SERVICE THE COMMUNITY.
12:45:17PM WITH THAT, LAST YEAR WE HAD FOUR CLASSES.
12:45:21PM OVER THESE LAST 21 MONTHS THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS HIRED
12:45:26PM ABOUT 120 PEOPLE.
12:45:28PM IT ALSO HAS ACCOUNTED FOR PEOPLE WHO HAS LEFT FOR
12:45:33PM RETIREMENT, FOR WHATEVER REASON.
12:45:35PM WE HAVE KEPT THOSE NUMBERS WHICH IS GREAT, BECAUSE WE ARE
12:45:37PM NOT GOING BELOW.
12:45:39PM SO MY NEXT BULLET TO PROVIDE THE BEST EQUIPMENT APPARATUS TO
12:45:43PM MEET OUR GOALS.
12:45:44PM ONCE AGAIN SAFETY IS NUMBER ONE WITH ME.
12:45:47PM WE HAVE RECEIVED A GRANT THAT ACTUALLY ALLOWED US TO GET 13,
12:45:51PM BUT WHEN I SAY POWER STRETCHERS, THESE ARE STRETCHERS THAT
12:45:55PM WILL HELP DECREASE INJURIES WHEN IT COMES TO THE INDIVIDUALS
12:45:58PM THAT ARE LOADING THE PATIENT UP IN THE BACK OF A UNIT.
12:46:01PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A LONG TIME AGO,
12:46:04PM BUT ONCE AGAIN WE ARE WORKING TO GET THERE, SO WE HAVE 13
12:46:07PM NEW ONES INSIDE THE NEW CAR.
12:46:10PM WE HAVE CONVERTED QUITE A FEW OVER.
12:46:12PM WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CONVERTING MORE.
12:46:14PM ONCE AGAIN I TALK ABOUT SAFETY.
12:46:16PM WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT EQUIPMENT.
12:46:18PM WE HAVE DEVELOPED CERTAIN EQUIPMENT TO HELP THESE
12:46:20PM INDIVIDUALS TO DO WHAT KNEE R THEY NEED TO DO ON THE JOB
12:46:23PM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MONITORS AND STUFF.
12:46:25PM WE ARE UPDATING ALL THAT EQUIPMENT THAT'S NEEDED.
12:46:28PM SO LAST BUT NOTE LEAST, INSURE THE BEST LEVEL OF OPERATION.
12:46:33PM SO AS DEPUTY CHIEF JOHNSON STATED, WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIAL
12:46:38PM EVENTS WE DO WORK A LOT OF PARTNERS.
12:46:41PM THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, HE WORKED WITH A LOT OF
12:46:47PM LOCAL AND STATE LEVEL AGENCIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE UP
12:46:51PM TO PAR. WHEN IT COMES TO EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS, HIS TEAM
12:46:55PM MAKES SURE THAT WE GET OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND EDUCATE.
12:46:59PM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE QUARTERLY EVENTS IN DIFFERENT DISTRICT
12:47:05PM COUNCIL AREAS TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ABOUT SAFETY WHEN IT
12:47:08PM COMES TO PREPARING FOR STORMS, WHEN IT COMES TO SUPER BOWL,
12:47:12PM WHEN IT COMES TO -- WE GET OUT AND TRY TO PROMOTE NOT ONLY
12:47:21PM WITH THE COMMUNITY BUT WITH OUR INTERNAL EXTERNAL PARTNERS.
12:47:25PM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRAINING, I ONCE AGAIN REALIZED THAT
12:47:29PM THERE WERE CERTAIN AREAS THAT WE NEEDED TO DO SOME
12:47:32PM ADDITIONAL TRAININGS BECAUSE OF THE AGENCY THAT'S HERE.
12:47:36PM THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS REACHED OUT, AND WE ARE GETTING THAT
12:47:39PM TRAINING IN TO MAKE SURE THE INDIVIDUALS NOT ONLY ARE
12:47:44PM MEETING THE RESPONSE BUT ALSO THE LEVEL OF TRAINING THAT
12:47:47PM THEY NEED TO BE THE BEST OF THE BEST.
12:47:49PM SO I KNOW EARLIER WE TALKED ABOUT AS FAR AS DOING A MASTER
12:47:53PM PLAN, AND GRANTED, THANK YOU, BECAUSE I THINK WE DO NEED
12:47:56PM ONE, BUT THE PROBLEM THAT FIRE IS GOING TO HAVE SINCE I HAVE
12:47:59PM BEEN IN THIS SEAT, A PERFECT EXAMPLE, YESTERDAY WE FOUND
12:48:04PM MORE INFORMATION WHEN IT COMES TO PURCHASING OUR
12:48:06PM INDIVIDUALS, AND I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE YEARS AGO.
12:48:10PM EVERYTHING IS EVOLUTION.
12:48:13PM THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS REACHED OUT.
12:48:17PM WE WORK WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT PARTNERS, AND WE ARE GETTING
12:48:19PM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE GO.
12:48:22PM ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES THAT WE WILL HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO A
12:48:25PM MASTER PLAN ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE LOOKING FOR RESPONSE TIMES,
12:48:27PM BECAUSE I KNOW THE UNION AND I HAVE THAT HERE, I KNOW THEY
12:48:32PM DID IN 2019, ALONG WITH SOME OF THE CHANGES I HAVE DONE, A
12:48:36PM LOT OF THOSE NUMBERS HAVE -- MEMBERS HAVE CHANGED.
12:48:41PM I HAVE ADDED A LOT OF ADDITIONAL STATION WHICH IS STATION 25
12:48:44PM WHICH HOUSES TWO ALS TRANSPORT UNITS.
12:48:48PM WE PUT STATION 19, RESCUE 19 AND SERVICES.
12:48:52PM I AM LOOKING TO ADD ADDITIONAL RESCUE CARS TO THE STATIONS
12:48:55PM WHO DO NOT HAVE A RESCUE CAR TO HELP BRING THAT RESPONSE
12:48:59PM TIME, OR INCREASE THAT RESPONSE TIME.
12:49:01PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE INCREASED THE LEVEL OF SERVICE
12:49:05PM OF ALL OF OUR TRUCK COMPANIES AS WELL.
12:49:08PM SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING SERVICES,
12:49:13PM ESPECIALLY ADVANCED LIFE SERVICE, EVERYONE ON TAMPA FIRE
12:49:16PM RESCUE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE INSTEAD
12:49:19PM OF BEING LIMITED.
12:49:21PM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S CONSTANTLY EVOLVING.
12:49:24PM AND IT'S CONSTANTLY CHANGING.
12:49:25PM SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RESPONSE TIME, WE TALK ABOUT
12:49:31PM EQUIPMENT, IT'S JUST SO MUCH INTO IT NOW, I JUST THINK IF WE
12:49:36PM DO GO OUTSIDE OR INTERNAL TO GET THAT MASTER PLAN TO COME IN
12:49:39PM HERE, A LOT OF OUR NUMBERS ARE NOT GOING TO BE ACCURATE
12:49:43PM BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAD SYSTEM.
12:49:45PM SO I AM JUST HOPING TO HAVE THAT CAD SYSTEM IN PLACE REAL
12:49:49PM SOON.
12:49:50PM I HAVE LIKE I SAY, MY ADMINISTRATION STAFF HERE TO BE ASSIST
12:49:53PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN ANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS.
12:49:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WAS HOPING TO GO TO -- LET'S HOLD OFF OUR
12:50:06PM QUESTIONS UNTIL WE HEAR FROM BOTH.
12:50:08PM IF YOU DON'T MIND, CHIEF.
12:50:09PM LET'S HAVE 754.
12:50:14PM NOW, YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT OF LOCAL 754.
12:50:18PM STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD AND ARE YOU GOING TO BE THE
12:50:20PM SPOKESPERSON FOR 754, ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE GROUP TODAY?
12:50:24PM >> YES, SIR.
12:50:25PM NICK STOCCO, TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 754.
12:50:31PM FIRST THING I WANT TO DO IS I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE IN THIS
12:50:36PM ROOM INCLUDING THE EXECUTIVE STAFF.
12:50:40PM WE HAVE BEEN HEAR SINCE THIS MORNING AND THE FIRE CHIEF
12:50:42PM BROUGHT OUT HER ENTIRE SCUFF STAFF.
12:50:45PM THE ENTIRE EXECUTIVE STAFF IS OUT HERE AND WE ARE NOW BEFORE
12:50:50PM ZONING WAS PUT BEFORE US.
12:50:51PM I WANT TO THANK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR BEING HERE AS WELL
12:50:53PM AS THE 30 MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL 754 BEHIND ME.
12:50:57PM SO IF THIS DOES EXTEND A LITTLE INTO THE 1:30 RANGE OR THE
12:51:01PM 1:40 RANGE, I HOPE WE CAN RESPECT THE TIME FRAME THAT WE
12:51:04PM HAVE ALLOTTED HERE, SO PLEASE, THANK YOU.
12:51:06PM I APOLOGIZE IF ANYTHING THAT I SAY MAY BE MISTAKEN.
12:51:11PM IT MAY BE JUST SOME PASSIONATE DEAL.
12:51:15PM YOU KNOW ME.
12:51:18PM THERE IS A LITTLE SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT I CREATED, SO IF
12:51:23PM WE MAY PUT IT UP THERE ON THE SCREEN.
12:51:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT IS UP THERE.
12:51:30PM >> THANK YOU.
12:51:31PM I AM NOT SURE IF THE CAPTIONS WILL MESS WITH THE WRITING IN
12:51:35PM CASE ANYONE WANTS TO LOOK AT IT BUT THIS IS SOMETHING WE
12:51:38PM CREATE ON BEHALF OF FIREFIGHTERS.
12:51:39PM THE FIREFIGHTERS UNION.
12:51:41PM AND IT WAS TO BRING SOME THINGS TO LIGHT.
12:51:44PM ONE OF THE THINGS IS HOW DO WE GET HERE?
12:51:47PM HOW DO WE GET TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY?
12:51:49PM LOOKING AT THIS COUNCIL HERE, IN FRONT OF US AND IN THESE
12:51:52PM CHAMBERS, MOST OF YOU GUYS WERE HERE BACK IN 2019.
12:51:57PM MAYBE A LITTLE PRIOR TO THAT.
12:51:59PM I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MAY BE NEW.
12:52:02PM FOR US NOW, WE ARE GOING TO DO A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON AND
12:52:06PM WE ARE GOING TO EDUCATE ON HOW WE GOT HERE.
12:52:08PM A MOTION WAS MADE IN EARLY 2020.
12:52:10PM AND THAT MOTION WAS TO TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL
12:52:14PM HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
12:52:15PM AND THAT WAS TO CREATE A MASTER PLAN.
12:52:17PM A WORKSHOP WAS DONE IN 2021 TO WHERE EVERYTHING WAS SUPPOSED
12:52:24PM TO BE BROUGHT TOGETHER.
12:52:28PM SEVERAL COUNCIL MEETING PRESENTATIONS.
12:52:31PM THE UNION HAS DONE SEVERAL COUNCIL MEETING PRESENTATIONS.
12:52:35PM AND THERE HAVE BEEN MANY ATTEMPTS TO HAVE THE CITY PRESENT A
12:52:37PM STRATEGIC PLAN OR MASTER PLAN ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEFICITS.
12:52:46PM FOR THAT, IN NOVEMBER 19, 2020, THE MOTION WAS MADE BY
12:52:52PM COUNCILMAN VIERA --
12:52:59PM I CAN'T SEE NOW WITH THE CAPTIONS.
12:53:01PM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
12:53:02PM THE MOTION WAS THAT STAFF APPEAR BEFORE COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER
12:53:04PM 19, 2020, TO PROVIDE A VERBAL REPORT ON A MASTER PLAN THAT
12:53:10PM CONSIDERS ALL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA'S PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS.
12:53:14PM THAT WAS IN NOVEMBER 19, 2020.
12:53:19PM WE THEN CARRIED INTO JANUARY WHERE ANOTHER MOTION WAS MADE,
12:53:23PM AND THAT A WORKSHOP ON A PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN BE
12:53:27PM SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 25, 2021 AT 9:00 A.M. TO ADDRESS THE
12:53:31PM FOLLOWING ISSUES BUT NOT LIMITED TO, AS WE HEARD RECENTLY,
12:53:37PM RESPONSE TIMES, NEW TAMPA INQUIRY ON FIRE STATIONS, NORTH
12:53:41PM TAMPA, CHANNELSIDE, A DISCUSSION ON THE MONETARY PATH AND
12:53:44PM OPTIONS ON TO BUILD A MONETARY BRIDGE TO GET THERE AS WE
12:53:48PM KNOW CITY COUNCIL DOES PLANNING AND DOES APPROVE THE BUDGETS
12:53:52PM FOR THE FUTURE.
12:53:54PM IN ADDITION, STAFF ADDRESSED THE MASTER PLAN VISION TO BE
12:53:57PM PRESENTED AT THE MARCH 25, 2021 WORKSHOP.
12:54:02PM FAST FORWARD TO MARCH 25, 2021, THE WORKSHOP WAS CONDUCTED
12:54:10PM HERE AT COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
12:54:14PM AND THAT CAME OUT, HIRE CONSULTANTS.
12:54:19PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID WHY DON'T WE HAVE CONSULTANTS?
12:54:24PM COUNCILMAN CITRO SAID WE NEED HELP NOW.
12:54:30PM WHAT ARE CONSULTANTS GOING TO TELL US?
12:54:32PM THE UNION HAS PROVIDED US WITH THE STUDY DONE BY THE
12:54:36PM INTERNATIONAL.
12:54:38PM FAST FORWARD TO THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS THERE WAS A MOTION
12:54:48PM TO SHARE THE MASTER PLAN WITH THE FIRE UNION.
12:54:50PM THE FIRE UNION WAS NOT GIVEN ANY INFORMATION FROM THIS
12:54:53PM CURRENT STAFF.
12:54:54PM THE MOTION WAS TWO WEEKS AGO WAS TO PRESENT TO THE FIRE
12:54:57PM UNION WORKING TOGETHER ON HOW TO BE ABLE TO GET THIS DONE.
12:55:01PM WE HAD TO FILE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST TO GET THIS
12:55:03PM INFORMATION.
12:55:03PM IT WASN'T GIVEN TO US.
12:55:06PM AT LEAST TWO WERE DONE BY FITCH AND ASSOCIATES.
12:55:12PM THE ONE WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN WAS MARCH 22.
12:55:16PM HOW MUCH DID THESE REPORTS COST THE CITY?
12:55:19PM I WOULDN'T KNOW.
12:55:20PM I FILED A PUBLIC RECORDS AND I STILL HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT
12:55:23PM ANSWER BACK BUT MAYBE YOU ALL CAN LOOK INTO IT.
12:55:25PM THESE REPORTS SAY THEY COMPARED TO THE GIS UNION STUDY.
12:55:30PM THE ONE WE DID IN AUGUST OF 2022 AND FOUND LIGHT TRAITS.
12:55:35PM I KEEP HEARING ISO RATING.
12:55:37PM HOW MUCH FITCH AND ASSOCIATES OBSERVED SOME RESPONSE TIME
12:55:40PM VALUES AND ALSO OBSERVED THE VALUE THAT 90% OF THE TIME IN
12:55:45PM THAT SECOND SENTENCE, WE HAVE A 13.1 MINUTE -- WE WILL GET
12:55:50PM THERE WITHIN A 13.1 MINUTE RESPONSE TIME.
12:55:55PM I AM NOT SURE HOW THAT RATING S.
12:55:58PM IF YOU LOOK DOWN AT THE BOTTOM THE OBSERVATION DONE BY THIS
12:56:02PM COMPANY FITCH AND ASSOCIATES, THEY ALIGNED OUR INTERNATIONAL
12:56:09PM CONSULTANT, GIS REPORT ALONG WITH WHAT FITCH SAID IN THE
12:56:12PM RESPONSE TIME.
12:56:13PM IF WE TAKE ON AVERAGE, ON AVERAGE WE ARE ABOUT 8.9 MINUTES.
12:56:18PM THAT'S FROM A ALARM TIME TO TIME ON SCENE.
12:56:21PM THAT'S FROM WHEN THE INCIDENTS HAPPENS TO THE DEFIBRILLATOR
12:56:27PM ARRIVES.
12:56:27PM HEART ASSOCIATION SAYS ANYTHING OVER 6 MINUTES, THE BRAIN
12:56:30PM SUFFERS PERMANENT BRAIN LOSS.
12:56:32PM AS YOU CAN SEE ON AVERAGE, WE DON'T EVEN MEET THE NEEDS FOR
12:56:36PM AMERICAN HEART TO BE ABLE TO PREVENT ANY KIND OF BRAIN
12:56:40PM DAMAGE.
12:56:47PM THIS WAS ALSO FOUND IN THE STUDY.
12:56:49PM THIS STUDY WAS DONE IN MARCH OF 2020.
12:56:52PM THEY HAVE A DATE OF MARCH 2022.
12:56:54PM SO I DON'T PRESUME THIS TO BE OUTDATED.
12:57:00PM SIX RESCUES WERE AT OR ABOVE THE UPPER UTILIZATION OF .30
12:57:06PM WITH AN ADDITIONAL 3 RESCUES AND ENGINE 13 AT OR ABOVE
12:57:10PM RECOMMENDED PLANNING THRESHOLD OF 425.
12:57:14PM FURTHER DOWN IT SAYS ENGINE 13 INCLUDING ENGINE 13, THERE
12:57:17PM ARE NINE ENGINES ARGUABLY TOO BUSY FOR LARGE APPARATUS.
12:57:22PM THE WORKLOAD ON THE ENGINES AND THE TRUCK COMPANIES IS
12:57:24PM PRIMARILY EMS RELATED.
12:57:28PM OBSERVED SIX RESCUES AS WELL AS THE NINE ENGINES AND THE
12:57:33PM RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS ENCOURAGED EMS
12:57:37PM DEPLOYMENT STRATEGY THAT ADEQUATELY ACCOUNTS FOR CLINICAL
12:57:41PM QUALITY, WORKLOAD FOR BOTH EMS AND FIRE RESOURCES.
12:57:48PM AS WE SEE IN THE WORKLOAD BY STATION, STATION 1 WAS THE
12:57:52PM BUSIEST STATION DURING 2019, AND STATION 13 WAS THE SECOND
12:57:56PM BUSIEST.
12:57:57PM WE HAVE NOT ADDED ANYTHING TO STATION 1.
12:58:01PM WE HAVE ADDED A RESCUE 24 TO STATION 13, YES.
12:58:07PM STATION 1 HAS NOT SEEN ANY ADDS.
12:58:10PM IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT COLUMN PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL BUSY
12:58:13PM HOURS, STATIONS 1 AND 13 EQUATE TO OVER 20% OF THE BUSY
12:58:19PM HOURS IN THE CITY.
12:58:21PM STATION 13 IS ALSO PUSHING 30 THERE.
12:58:24PM STATION 1 IS DOWNTOWN.
12:58:28PM THE STUDIES PRESENTED IN AUGUST OF 22, PREVIOUS TO MY
12:58:31PM ADMINISTRATION, PREVIOUS TO ANDREW'S, DATING BACK TO
12:58:35PM PROBABLY JOE GRECO STINT, A DOWNTOWN SERVICES THIS AREA, AND
12:58:43PM WE WOULD BE UNABLE TO PROTECT THIS AREA SUCCESSFULLY ONCE IT
12:58:48PM WAS COMPLETED.
12:58:52PM I ENJOY WATER STREET.
12:58:55PM I AM SURE YOU DO ALSO. IT'S DONE.
12:58:57PM NO RESOURCES HAVE BEEN ADDED TO THAT AREA.
12:58:59PM IT'S 9 MILLION SQUARE FEET OF MIXED USE.
12:59:04PM THESE HIGH-RISES THAT ARE ON HERE, THEY REQUIRE MANPOWER.
12:59:11PM AND SHORTLY I WILL HAVE A LITTLE PRESENTATION AS TO HOW MANY
12:59:13PM PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY NEEDED BUT THESE HIGH-RISES NEED
12:59:17PM STAFFING.
12:59:18PM A LADDER ISN'T GOING TO GET TO THE TOP OF THE BANK OF
12:59:21PM AMERICA BUILDING, BUT PEOPLE INSIDE STAIRWELLS WILL.
12:59:27PM I WOULD LIKE TO PLAY THIS SMALL PRESENTATION ON 17-10.
12:59:33PM >> 1710.
12:59:54PM THE INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR CAREER FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
12:59:56PM BUT WHAT IS IT?
12:59:57PM AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR OUR COMMUNITY?
1:00:08PM YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE.
1:00:09PM IT'S WORE WORST NIGHTMARE. IN JUST THREE MINUTES A FIRE CAN
1:00:14PM GROW 16 TIMES LARGER THAN WHEN IT STARTED AND CONTINUES TO
1:00:17PM GROW BIGGER AND FASTER EVERY SECOND.
1:00:21PM ONCE THE CLOCK STARTS TICKING THERE'S A SHRINKING WINDOW OF
1:00:24PM OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE LIVES AND PROPERTY.
1:00:29PM YOU WANT A FULL CREW OF FIREFIGHTERS TO PUT IT OUT QUICKLY,
1:00:33PM OR YOU MAY SUFFER A CATASTROPHIC LOSS.
1:00:36PM BUT HOW MANY ARE ENOUGH?
1:00:40PM 50?
1:00:41PM 120?
1:00:42PM 40?
1:00:43PM HOW DO YOU DECIDE?
1:00:45PM FORTUNATELY, THERE'S AN INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED INDUSTRY
1:00:47PM STANDARD.
1:00:48PM IT'S CALLED NFPA 1710, AND IT'S BASED ON SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE
1:00:53PM AND RESEARCH THAT ESTABLISHES HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS ARE
1:00:56PM NEEDED TO PUT OUT EACH FIRE AND RESCUE ANYONE TRAPPED.
1:01:02PM AT A FIRE SCENE YOU WANT A FIREFIGHTER DOING EVERY JOB THAT
1:01:06PM NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SAVE YOU AND YOUR HOUSE, AND AT A FIRE
1:01:11PM THERE'S A LOT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE LIKE STRETCHING THE
1:01:14PM HOSE, HOOKING TO A HYDRANT, SEARCHING FOR TRAPPED PEOPLE,
1:01:18PM VENTING THE HOT GASES AND MUCH MORE.
1:01:22PM FOR A LOW-HAZARD SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE FIRE NFPA 1710
1:01:27PM SPECIFIES A MINIMUM OF 15 FIREFIGHTERS DISPATCHED IN THE
1:01:30PM INITIAL ALARM.
1:01:32PM AT AN OPEN AIR STRIP SHOPPING CENTER OR GARDEN APARTMENT
1:01:36PM FIRE, THE STANDARD SPECIFIES A MINIMUM OF 28 FIREFIGHTERS
1:01:39PM DISPATCHED IN THE FIRST ALARM, AND FOR FIRES IN HIGH-RISE
1:01:43PM BUILD BUILDINGS AT LEAST SEVEN STORIES TALL THE DATA SHOW
1:01:47PM THAT THE INITIAL DISPATCH SHOULD BE FOR A MINIMUM OF 43
1:01:51PM FIREFIGHTERS, AND THAT FIRE DEPARTMENTS SHOULD SEND
1:01:54PM ADDITIONAL FIREFIGHTERS TO SITUATIONS THAT ARE BEYOND THE
1:01:57PM CAPABILITY OF THE INITIAL ALARM.
1:02:01PM WHEN CONSIDERING CREW SIZE ON EACH ENGINE AND TRUCK
1:02:04PM RESPONDING TO A FIRE, THE STANDARD SAYS THAT IN LOW HAZARD
1:02:08PM RESPONSE AREAS LIKE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, THE REQUIRED
1:02:11PM NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS ON EACH FIRE ENGINE AND TRUCK IS
1:02:15PM FOUR.
1:02:16PM IN AREAS WHERE THE HIGH NUMBER OF INCIDENTS OR GEOGRAPHIC
1:02:20PM RESTRICTIONS LIKE NARROW ROADS, SINGLE ACCESS BRIDGES OR
1:02:24PM ISLANDS, A MINIMUM OF FIVE FIREFIGHTERS ON EACH FIRE ENGINE
1:02:28PM AND LADDER TRUCK IS REQUIRED.
1:02:31PM AND IN DENSE URBAN AREAS WITH HIGH-HAZARD OCCUPANCIES, LIKE
1:02:35PM HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS, THE MINIMUM NUMBER OF FIREFIGHTERS ON
1:02:39PM EACH FIRE ENGINE OR TRUCK IS SIX.
1:02:40PM REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE OF PROPERTY, 1710 ALSO SETS THE TIME
1:02:52PM OF ARRIVAL ON SCENE ON THE FIRST ENGINE WITH FOUR
1:02:56PM FIREFIGHTERS.
1:02:56PM THE 1710 STANDARD, THE RESPONSE TIME AND CREW SIZE, IS BASED
1:03:01PM ON SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, NOT OPINION.
1:03:08PM THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY, KNOWN AS
1:03:10PM NIST, CONDUCTED EXTENSIVE RESEARCH THAT OPTIMIZED THE
1:03:15PM OPTIMAL CREW STRUCTURES FOR VARIOUS STRUCTURES.
1:03:25PM AS A DECISION MAKER YOU WANT FIREFIGHTERS TO SHARE A CAN
1:03:28PM COMMON ROLE, EVERYONE GETS OUT ALIVE.
1:03:31PM SO WHEN A HOUSE IS ON FIRE, JUST REMEMBER, IT TAKES A
1:03:34PM MINIMUM OF 15 FIREFIGHTERS TO PUT IT OUT.
1:03:37PM AND THE RESPONDING CREWS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF
1:03:40PM FIREFIGHTERS ON EACH ENGINE AND TRUCK.
1:03:44PM THE QUICKER THE RESPONSE TIME, THE BETTER THE OUTCOME FOR
1:03:47PM EVERYONE.
1:03:50PM FOR MORE INFORMATION, TALK TO YOUR LOCAL FIREFIGHTERS.
1:03:54PM THANKS FOR LISTENING.
1:03:56PM AND STAY SAFE.
1:04:01PM >> THANK YOU.
1:04:02PM AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT INFORMATION THERE IS NATIONAL STANDARD.
1:04:11PM NO CALCULATIONS MADE.
1:04:13PM IN 1710 THERE'S AN INDUSTRY STANDARD AS WELL.
1:04:15PM I CAN GO BACK TO THE PowerPoint SLIDE, PLEASE.
1:04:20PM CURRENTLY OUR STAFFING IN THE CITY FOR DAILY MINIMUM
1:04:23PM STAFFING IS 162.
1:04:25PM WHICH IS BELOW THOSE RECOMMENDED NUMBERS THAT THE NFPA
1:04:32PM CURRENTLY SETS. IF WE WERE TO FOLLOW AN NFPA 1710, NOT ONLY
1:04:37PM TWO OF THE ENGINES, AN ENGINE AND TRUCK WOULD HAVE FIVE.
1:04:42PM EVERY OTHER ENGINE WOULD HAVE FOUR PEOPLE ON IT.
1:04:45PM MINIMUM STAFFING NUMBERS SHOULD BE 182.
1:04:49PM THAT'S 20 MORE PEOPLE PER SHIFT TO MAINTAIN MINIMUM, JUST
1:04:53PM WITH THE RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE.
1:04:55PM THIS ISN'T ADDING NEW RESCUES.
1:04:57PM THIS ISN'T ADDING NEW ENGINES.
1:04:58PM THIS IS JUST TODAY'S RESOURCES FOLLOWING THE NATIONAL
1:05:01PM STANDARD, NOT HAVING SIX ON A TRUCK OR SIX ON AN ENGINE.
1:05:05PM SO THE ENGINES HAVE BEEN COMING WITH FIVE SEATS FOR A
1:05:08PM REGION.
1:05:09PM IT'S TO PUT PEOPLE ON THEM.
1:05:13PM SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THE UNION ESTIMATES AT MINIMUM, 74
1:05:19PM PERSONNEL TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH TODAY'S RESOURCES.
1:05:24PM IN JUNE OF 2021, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE REPORTED 695 UNIFORMED
1:05:29PM FIREFIGHTERS.
1:05:31PM ON JANUARY 1, 2023, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE REPORTED 732 UNIFORMED
1:05:36PM FIREFIGHTERS.
1:05:37PM THE ADMINISTRATION AS STATED HIRED OVER 100 FIREFIGHTERS.
1:05:41PM HOWEVER, THROUGH RETIREMENT AND ATTRITION IT HAS INCREASED
1:05:46PM BY LESS THAN 40.
1:05:48PM THREW ATTRITION THESE ARE SENIORITY LISTS THAT ARE
1:05:51PM PROVIDED -- THIS IS A PUBLIC RECORD.
1:05:53PM THIS IS A SENIORITY LIST THAT GETS PROVIDED TO ALL THE
1:05:56PM MEMBERS.
1:06:02PM APPARATUS.
1:06:03PM IN MARCH 2021, THE WORKSHOP STATED THAT WE ARE BEHIND LIFE
1:06:07PM EXPECTANCIES.
1:06:08PM 17 FIRE ENGINES, 17 RESCUE TRANSPORT UNITS, THREE AERIALS,
1:06:18PM FIVE AERIALS BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, AND SINCE THAT TIME,
1:06:23PM FROM WHAT WE KNOW, WE HAVE ONLY RECEIVED THREE VEHICLES.
1:06:27PM SO IN ALMOST TWO YEARS WE HAVE RECEIVED THREE VEHICLES.
1:06:33PM ANOTHER EXAMPLE AS TO WHY HAVING A PLAN IS CRITICAL.
1:06:39PM OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE IN DANGER OF PERFORM THEIR JOB SAFELY
1:06:42PM AND IF A FIREFIGHTER IS INJURED WHILE PERFORMING DUTIES
1:06:45PM BECAUSE OF UNSAFE EQUIPMENT THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO
1:06:47PM ANSWER TO THIS.
1:06:52PM STATION 13 AND STATION 1 ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR 20% OF THE
1:06:56PM CALLS, 20% OF THE WORK HOURS, THAT TAMPA FIRE RESPONDS TO.
1:07:01PM IF THERE'S A WAY TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAMS TO GET RESOURCES
1:07:04PM BACK ON THE STREETS, WE CAN IMPLEMENT THE PEEK PROGRAM TO
1:07:09PM GET OUR RESPONSE TIMES DOWN.
1:07:10PM 90% OF THE TIME, FOR US TO BE THERE WITHIN 13 MINUTES IS NOT
1:07:17PM ACCEPTABLE.
1:07:17PM NINE MINUTES ON AVERAGE OF A RESPONSE TIME IS UNACCEPTABLE.
1:07:25PM THINGS ARE BEING BUILT IN OUR CITY WITH FIRE STATIONS AND
1:07:29PM RESOURCES ARE APPARENTLY ON BACK ORDER.
1:07:33PM IN CONCLUSION, THE COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR A ONE-YEAR,
1:07:36PM FIVE-YEAR, TEN YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC
1:07:38PM SAFETY NEEDS.
1:07:41PM WE HAVE HIRED MULTIPLE CONSULTANTS.
1:07:43PM WE HAVE ASKED FOR ALL THE EXTENSIONS.
1:07:45PM WE MADE ALL THE MOTIONS.
1:07:46PM WE NEED TO PUT THE PLANS INTO MOTION, IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
1:07:50PM IN 2008 THERE WAS A CRISIS OF SOME AIR PACKS, AND THIS
1:07:57PM COUNCIL HAD TO APPROVE SIGNIFICANTLY LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY
1:07:59PM TO HAVE REPLACE AIR PACKS BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO BE OUT
1:08:03PM OF DATE, SO WE HAD TO RUSH TO TRY TO GET SOME MONEY TO BUY
1:08:08PM AIR PACKS.
1:08:10PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT A MASTER PLAN WILL DO IS BE ABLE TO
1:08:13PM HELP US BUDGET SO THESE THINGS DON'T GO BEFORE COUNCIL SO
1:08:18PM THERE AREN'T ANY SURPRISES.
1:08:21PM IF I CAN BE ON THE OVERHEAD, PLEASE.
1:08:30PM HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF SOME STRATEGIC PLANS.
1:08:40PM WE HAVE SOME AS FAR BACK AS 2008 AND THESE PLANS GIVE AN
1:08:43PM IN-DEPTH LOOK OF WHAT IS NEEDED, HOW MANY AMBULANCES, AND
1:08:51PM YOU GET THE GIST OF IT.
1:08:53PM HERE IS ANOTHER ONE FROM 2015 TO 2020.
1:08:56PM THERE'S A STRATEGIC PLAN.
1:09:00PM BUT WE ARE MAKING IT WORK.
1:09:02PM WE REACHED OUT TO THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST SINCE THAT
1:09:04PM SEEMS TO BE THE WAY I CAN GET INFORMATION.
1:09:07PM AND THIS IS ONE FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.
1:09:09PM THAT'S A MASTER PLAN DATED JANUARY 2017.
1:09:13PM IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THESE PAGES, IT GIVES HISTORICAL
1:09:16PM RECORDS, AND IT GIVES DATA MAPPING TO WHERE IT EVEN INCLUDES
1:09:24PM FISCAL YEAR 31, 2031.
1:09:29PM GIVES SOME DOTS, SOME FUNDING.
1:09:32PM HERE IS INFORMATION ON HOW TO GET THERE FINANCIALLY IN THIS
1:09:35PM PLAN.
1:09:36PM AS WE WATCHED NEW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, THEY ARE HAVING
1:09:39PM INCREASE IMPACT FEES.
1:09:43PM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING THE LAST BITE OF THE
1:09:46PM APPLE.
1:09:49PM HERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES.
1:09:57PM THIS IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR, AND THE FIRST RESCUE UNIT ON THE
1:10:01PM SCENE, RESPONSE TIME WITHIN 7 MINUTES, 90% OF THE TIME.
1:10:05PM OURS IS 13.1.
1:10:07PM ALMOST DOUBLE.
1:10:20PM AS YOU SEE, WHEN THIS WAS MADE IN 2017, THERE'S FUNDING,
1:10:25PM REBUILDING, FUNDING.
1:10:27PM IN PLANS ON HOW TO GET THERE.
1:10:34PM AS FAR AS FISCAL YEAR 2031, AND THIS IS MADE -- THIS WAS
1:10:39PM MADE IN 2017.
1:10:41PM AND I BELIEVE AS WE SPEAK, THEY ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON
1:10:45PM UPDATING THESE REGULARLY.
1:10:47PM AS WE UNDERSTAND THINGS CHANGE, POPULATION GROWTH MAY GET
1:10:50PM DIFFERENT.
1:10:51PM UNLESS WE GET A GOOD BASELINE ON A MASTER PLAN WE WILL BE
1:10:54PM ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS.
1:10:56PM HOWEVER, AS WE ARE WITNESSING WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF
1:10:59PM YEARS, IF WE FAIL TO PLAN, AND WE ARE PLANNING TO FAIL.
1:11:05PM SO I WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
1:11:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THANK YOU, MR.
1:11:16PM STOCCO, FOR YOUR VERY DETAILED REPORT HERE.
1:11:18PM I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
1:11:20PM YOU KNOW, I WILL BE HONEST, AND SHARE THIS WITH THE
1:11:23PM ADMINISTRATION, BEFORE I WAS CONFUSED WHEN I SAW WHAT WAS
1:11:26PM PUT FORTH BY TAMPA FIRE RESCUE BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF
1:11:29PM DISCUSSIONS ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
1:11:33PM WHAT I SAW WAS KIND OF AN ANALYSIS ON WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
1:11:37PM I GUESS IF I COULD DESCRIBE THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN,
1:11:40PM IT'S OUR REALISTIC ASPIRATIONS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE
1:11:44PM HAVING PUT FORWARD AS A CITY, AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT TODAY,
1:11:49PM ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF A COUPLE OF CONTINUANCES.
1:11:52PM I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATES BUT I KNOW THIS WAS COMING TO
1:11:54PM US A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, THEN IT WAS CONTINUED MAYBE TILL A
1:11:59PM MONTH AGO THAT WE PUSHED FORWARD TILL TODAY, SO THAT'S KIND
1:12:02PM OF MY CONFUSION ON THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THE
1:12:05PM PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
1:12:07PM MY BELIEF WAS IT WAS ACCIDENTALLY PRESENTED, DO WE NEED
1:12:11PM CONSULTANTS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, IT'S SOMETHING TAMPA FIRE
1:12:13PM RESCUE COULD TAKE CARE OF.
1:12:17PM YOU KNOW, MR. STOCCO WENT THROUGH VERY WELL THE HISTORY OF
1:12:20PM HOW THIS HAS BEEN PUSHED TIME AND TIME AGAIN THROUGH MOTIONS
1:12:24PM IN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, ET CETERA.
1:12:26PM I WENT THROUGH MY OWN MOTIONS BECAUSE I SAW THAT IN JANUARY
1:12:32PM 23rd OF 2020 IT WAS PROPOSED, THEREAFTER WE DEALT WITH
1:12:36PM IN THE NOVEMBER 19 OF 2020, A MOTION I DID FOR STATION 13,
1:12:42PM CHANNELSIDE, DOWNTOWN, NORTH TAMPA, ET CETERA, AND AGAIN AND
1:12:45PM AGAIN AND AGAIN AFTER THAT, AND AGAIN I REPEAT, WHAT I
1:12:49PM REALLY WANT OUT OF A PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN IS KIND OF
1:12:52PM LIKE I TOLD THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, TO LOOK AT WHERE
1:12:55PM DEFICITS ARE AT, TALK THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
1:12:59PM TALK ABOUT THE MONETARY AMOUNT THAT THOSE DEFICITS ARE GOING
1:13:02PM TO REQUIRE TO BE REMEDIED, AND THEN THROW THE BALL TO CITY
1:13:06PM COUNCIL, AND THEN WE DEAL WITH HOW TO PREPARE THOSE
1:13:09PM DEFICITS.
1:13:09PM WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AT, THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
1:13:12PM BUT, FOR EXAMPLE, I AM NOT A FIRE SPECIALIST.
1:13:16PM FAR FROM IT, RIGHT?
1:13:17PM I WAS IN NEW TAMPA TWO DAYS AGO AT K-BAR RANCH AND PEOPLE
1:13:21PM TALKING ABOUT RESPONSE TIMES AND PEOPLE SAYING, DO WE NEED A
1:13:25PM NEW STATION DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION WE NEED A CUT-THROUGH?
1:13:28PM AND I SAY, HEY, LISTEN, IF WE CAN GET SIX HAIL MARYS A DAY,
1:13:28PM THAT WILL REDUCE RESPONSE TIME.
1:13:30PM AND LET'S DO THE SIX HAIL MARYS, RIGHT? WE KNOW WHERE THE
1:13:34PM DEFICITS ARE AT THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE CHALLENGES
1:13:37PM SOUTH OF GANDY.
1:13:38PM WE KNOW EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA WITH SO MUCH WORKFORCE
1:13:41PM HOUSING GOING THERE.
1:13:42PM DOWNTOWN, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
1:13:44PM NEW TAMPA, NORTH TAMPA.
1:13:45PM AND VERY APPRECIATIVE OBVIOUSLY FOR THE HARD WORK BEING DONE
1:13:49PM ON STATION 25.
1:13:50PM BUT WHAT I WANTED WHEN WOO I THINK THIS COUNCIL WANTED WAS
1:13:54PM VERY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT, KIND OF LIKE YOU SAW WITH THE
1:13:57PM LOCAL 754 REPORT, TO TALK ABOUT THE RECEIVE SITS, AND TO
1:14:02PM TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN REMEDY THEM.
1:14:07PM I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT HERE TODAY.
1:14:09PM I KNOW A CONSULTANT'S REPORT FROM A YEAR AGO WAS FORWARDED
1:14:12PM BUT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE MOTION.
1:14:14PM SO THAT'S MY CONFUSION THAT I AM EXPRESSING.
1:14:16PM I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL THE SAME.
1:14:19PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: CAN I SAY SOMETHING?
1:14:25PM SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN, LIKE I EXPLAINED TO
1:14:27PM YOU, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE ONE.
1:14:29PM DON'T GET ME WRONG.
1:14:30PM THE CITY IS GROWING.
1:14:31PM SOME ANOTHER'S AREAS THAT WE NEED TO BE LOOK INTO AS WELL AS
1:14:35PM GET THE DEPARTMENT.
1:14:38PM BUT AS I TOLD YOU EARLIER TODAY, THIS ADMINISTRATION CAME
1:14:40PM IN, EVERYONE IS NEW, STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
1:14:44PM PRIOR TO EVERYTHING, WHERE IS IT GOING, WHICH WAY -- AND
1:14:47PM MAKING SURE THAT WE PROVIDE THE SERVICE THAT WE NEED.
1:14:52PM THAT BEING SAID THAT'S WHAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS DOING.
1:14:54PM I THINK LOCAL 754 AS FAR AS THEIR CONCERNS AND STUFF, AND
1:14:58PM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT NOT GETTING INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, IT'S
1:15:02PM KIND OF SAD WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE MANPOWER.
1:15:06PM YES, WE DO HAVE MANPOWER BUT EVERY DAY I AM DEALING WITH
1:15:09PM DOUBLE DIGITS CALL AROUNDS.
1:15:13PM WE HAVE ONE HUNDRED AND -- THE AVERAGE FIREFIGHTER GETS PAID
1:15:16PM FOR 104 DAYS A YEAR.
1:15:17PM THEY GOT 260 DAYS OFF.
1:15:19PM BUT I AM STILL GETTING DOUBLE CALLOUTS, YOU KNOW, WHERE A
1:15:24PM PERSON WORKS 206 DAYS, AND I WILL BE LUCKY EVERY QUARTER DO
1:15:28PM I GET ONE IN TWO CALLOUTS.
1:15:30PM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, IF I HAD THE PEOPLE HERE,
1:15:33PM THOSE NUMBERS, BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE OVER 230
1:15:38PM EVERY DAY AND OF COURSE WE HAVE THE ANNUAL LEAVE AND ALL OF
1:15:41PM THAT IN CONSIDERATION, BUT IT DOESN'T HELP WHEN I HAVE THE
1:15:44PM DOUBLE DIGIT CALLOUT EVERY DAY AS FAR AS STAFFING.
1:15:47PM SO WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, AS FAR AS STUFF WE NEED, THAT'S
1:15:51PM WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON, BUT ONCE AGAIN WE COME IN, AND LET'S
1:15:55PM SAY AT THE BOTTOM, YOU KNOW.
1:15:57PM AND ME PERSONALLY, LIKE I SAY, IT'S KIND OF HARD FOE IN HE
1:16:02PM TO SIT HERE AND GIVE FIVE, TEN.
1:16:04PM I CAN GIVE YOU A ONE-YEAR WAR WE HAVE DONE IN THE LAST YEAR
1:16:07PM IS PROBABLY WHAT WE ACCUMULATED OVER THE LAST -- WE CAN
1:16:10PM PROJECT FIVE YEARS BECAUSE OF ORDERING ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND
1:16:13PM STUFF AND PERSONNEL.
1:16:14PM THAT'S WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
1:16:16PM IF YOU WANT SOMETHING WITHOUT DATA IN IT BECAUSE EACH WITH
1:16:20PM THE DATA THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE WITH
1:16:23PM THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND STUFF, MY QUESTION IS, ESPECIALLY
1:16:27PM WHEN YOU HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT'S NOT WORKING, HOW TRUE IS
1:16:29PM THAT?
1:16:32PM SO HOW CAN WE GET THAT DATA TO BE ABLE TO SHOW OUR MATRIX
1:16:35PM AND WHAT WE NEED AND WHERE WE NEED THOSE RESOURCES AT.
1:16:39PM SO ONCE AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDATION, EVEN THOUGH THAT FITCH
1:16:44PM WAS REPORT WAS DATED MARCH OF LAST YEAR, THIS ADMINISTRATION
1:16:48PM HAS BEEN WORKING ON THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BECAUSE WE RAN
1:16:51PM 90,000 CALLS IN 2020 AND 80,000 OF THEM WAS MEDICAL CALLS.
1:16:55PM THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING IS RESOURCES.
1:16:58PM ONCE WE GET THOSE RESOURCES IN PLACE AND STUFF, IT WOULDN'T
1:17:00PM BE A PROBLEM, A YEAR FROM NOW, ONCE WE GET THE CAD SYSTEM IN
1:17:04PM TO BE ABLE TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE DO WE NEED RESOURCES BECAUSE
1:17:08PM WE ARE WORKING INEFFECTIVELY, YOU KNOW.
1:17:10PM AND WHEN I SAY INEFFECTIVELY, MEANING WE HAVE STATIONS AND
1:17:13PM EQUIPMENT NOT WHERE IT SHOULD BE.
1:17:15PM SO OF COURSE THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE A DELAY IN RESPONSE TIME.
1:17:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I RESPOND, SIR? JUST VERY BRIEFLY.
1:17:23PM I UNDERSTAND THERE'S CHALLENGES, MAYBE PERSONNEL CHALLENGES,
1:17:26PM MAYBE NOT.
1:17:26PM BUT AGAIN WHAT I AM GETTING AT IS THE REQUEST THAT I THOUGHT
1:17:30PM WAS MADE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WE HAD AN AGREEMENT ON
1:17:32PM SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TODAY AND I AM HEARING
1:17:35PM SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
1:17:36PM THAT'S MY MAIN ISSUE.
1:17:37PM I GO BACK TO JUST BASIC ELEMENTS OF THE REPORT THAT I
1:17:40PM MOTIONED FOR MANY TIMES, CITY COUNCIL AGREED TO, BUT I
1:17:44PM THOUGHT ADMINISTRATION HAD BOUGHT INTO IN THE LAST BUDGET
1:17:47PM WHICH WAS TO HAVE A BUDGET MASTER SAFETY PLAN COME TO US.
1:17:50PM I WILL PROBABLY MAKE THE SAME MOTION THAT I MADE FOR TAMPA
1:17:53PM POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
1:17:55PM BUT AGAIN THE DISTINCTION IS, WE HAVEN'T HAD AS MANY PUBLIC
1:17:58PM ENGAGEMENTS WITH TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AS WITH TAMPA FIRE
1:18:01PM RESCUE ON THIS REPORT COME FORWARD.
1:18:04PM I MEAN, WE HAVE ABOUT 30 FIREFIGHTERS HERE FROM THE UNION.
1:18:08PM YOU THINK THERE'S A LOT OF AT THE VERY LEAST CONFUSION ON
1:18:11PM THAT POINT THAT WAS MADE.
1:18:13PM IN MY OPINION.
1:18:14PM AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL MEMBERS SHARE THAT CONFUSION,
1:18:17PM BUT I DO.
1:18:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:18:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU GUYS DON'T LEARN.
1:18:24PM YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO LEARN.
1:18:28PM EVERYBODY HAS A BOSS.
1:18:35PM AND SHE GOT A BOSS.
1:18:36PM THIS MAN CAN PULL UP A FITCH REPORT.
1:18:45PM YOU JUST DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
1:18:47PM WHEN I LOOK TO SEE THAT PERSON -- PUT IN RESCUE CARS IN
1:18:57PM CERTAIN AREAS, AND I WAS DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THE CADS.
1:19:07PM I TALKED DOWN TO THE COMMUNICATION GUY BECAUSE I GOT UPSET
1:19:13PM ABOUT THAT.
1:19:14PM COMMUNICATION, THAT STILL HASN'T GOT DONE.
1:19:21PM I TALKED TO THE ACHIEVE ABOUT THAT AND THEY THOUGHT -- I
1:19:28PM DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS CHIEF OR WHATEVER BUT IT DIDN'T WORK.
1:19:32PM SHE WENT OUT RIGHT AWAY, TO CITIES OF OUR SIZE, TO FIND A
1:19:37PM SYSTEM.
1:19:42PM RFPQ, SO HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE PUT IN PLACE AND ONE ISSUE
1:19:48PM OFF THE TABLE.
1:19:50PM 14 AND 1.
1:19:52PM WE TALKED ABOUT DOWNTOWN.
1:19:55PM WE TALKED ABOUT CRA BEING A PART OF THAT.
1:19:58PM WE TALKED ABOUT DEVELOPERS IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
1:20:06PM SHE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN THE REPORT.
1:20:08PM SOMETIMES IT TAKES A WHILE TO MUTT THINGS IN PLACE.
1:20:11PM LIVES DO MATTER.
1:20:14PM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 13, WE HAVE TWO RESCUE CARS UP THERE,
1:20:21PM LOOKING FOR ANOTHER STATION UP THERE.
1:20:23PM I GO BACK TO THE REPORT.
1:20:28PM SO WE ARE TRYING TO WORK ON THOSE AREAS.
1:20:32PM BUT I GUESS THE GIST OF IT ROE AND MR. VIERA IS RIGHT.
1:20:37PM THIS IS WHERE IT COMES TO GOVERNMENT.
1:20:40PM PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET ANGRY WHEN I SAY THIS.
1:20:43PM SEE, WHEN YOU HAVE TWO FORMS OF GOVERNMENT, AND ONE IS IN
1:20:46PM CHARGE OF RUNNING THE CITY, MR. VIERA ASKED FOR SOMETHING TO
1:20:52PM BE DONE.
1:20:55PM WE GET CONTINUED OR ROUNDABOUT MOVE ASKED TO BE DONE.
1:21:01PM NOW FOR ME, REGARDLESS IF THE CHIEF, OR THE ADMINISTRATION,
1:21:06PM DID NOT WANT TO PROVIDE A MASTER PLAN TO PAY FOR IT, AND
1:21:10PM ACTUALLY TOLD THIS COUNCIL WE DON'T WANT IT, PERIOD.
1:21:23PM I HAVE BEEN IN THE GAME.
1:21:23PM I KNOW HOW IT IS AS A CITY EMPLOYEE. YOU GET PLAYED ALL THE
1:21:25PM TIME.
1:21:40PM THIS MAN FILED A REPORT.
1:21:41PM THE PROBLEM WAS HOW LONG IS THE COUNCIL -- YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
1:21:44PM THIS FORM OF GOVERNMENT THAT HAS BEEN HYPED UP FOR SO MANY
1:21:49PM DECADES, AND THE FIRST TIME YOU HAVE WHAT I CALL A DECENT
1:21:53PM REAL COUNCIL WHO FOUGHT BACK ON ISSUES, CONCERNS, BECAUSE WE
1:22:05PM WANT THE FACTS.
1:22:08PM SO I AM CONCERNED THAT SOMETHING WAS DONE, BUT WHAT I CAN
1:22:17PM SEE, CHIEF, I CAN SEE YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING.
1:22:19PM WE HAD A FIRE CHIEF BEFORE THAT DIDN'T GET THE JOB DONE.
1:22:23PM CAN'T BLAME YOU FOR THINGS THAT HAPPENED BEFORE YOUR WATCH,
1:22:27PM MANIFESTED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
1:22:29PM CAN'T BLAME UP FOR THAT.
1:22:34PM I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE GOT BOSSES.
1:22:37PM REGARDLESS OF WHO IS THE FIRE CHIEF, YOU HAVE BOSSES.
1:22:40PM SOME THINGS YOU MIGHT 2022 GET DONE.
1:22:42PM SOMETIMES YOU ARE TOLD YOU DON'T DO THAT AND THE GAME IS
1:22:48PM PLAYED.
1:22:53PM MR. JOHNSON PROTECTS THE ADMINISTRATION.
1:22:59PM ONE DAY THIS COUNCIL HAS TO REALIZE, REGARDLESS, WE ARE
1:23:04PM PROTECTORS OF THIS HOUSE.
1:23:07PM OUR CONSTITUTION, WE TALK ABOUT THIS CONSTITUTION WE HAVE IN
1:23:11PM THE CITY.
1:23:11PM WE ARE PROTECTORS OF THIS HOUSE.
1:23:13PM IRREGARDLESS.
1:23:15PM WHEN THE PUBLIC COMES IN, IT'S THEIR HOUSE.
1:23:19PM SO I THINK IN ALL FAIRNESS, I WON'T BE HERE TO SEE IT R BE
1:23:26PM LISTENING AND I WILL COME TO THAT MIKE WHEN I SEE ISSUES
1:23:30PM COME BACK THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT.
1:23:33PM BUT IN ALL FAIRNESS, I WON'T BLAME THE CHIEF TODAY.
1:23:36PM IT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED.
1:23:40PM I SAID THAT EARLIER.
1:23:42PM BUT I DO THINK IRREGARDLESS WE DON'T HAVE THE CAD, I THINK
1:23:47PM THE STUDY CAN BE DONE AND PRESENTED IN A MASTER PLAN FORM.
1:23:50PM I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT.
1:23:54PM AND IF IT IS WRONG, IT'S WRONG.
1:23:57PM BUT I THINK YOU WILL GET SOME THINGS.
1:24:01PM YOU HAVE ADDED CARS, YOU HAVE ADDED PEOPLE.
1:24:03PM NOW YOU TELL ME THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE, DOUBLE DIGIT NUMBERS.
1:24:08PM THAT'S A PROBLEM.
1:24:12PM AGAIN, I AM JUST GOING BY WHAT THE CHIEF SAYS.
1:24:14PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU GOT THAN WHAT SHE'S TELLING YOU
1:24:17PM RIGHT NOW.
1:24:23PM AGAIN, I TALKED ABOUT THAT DISPATCH.
1:24:27PM IT THAT'S WHAT CAN HAPPEN.
1:24:30PM WE HAD A CONVERSATION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, SAID WE CAN LOOK
1:24:34PM INTO THAT SO SOME OF THAT IS GOING TO COME TO FRUITION AND
1:24:37PM GET THE OTHER DISPATCH LINE.
1:24:39PM BUT I AM NOT GOING TO BLAME YOU TODAY.
1:24:41PM I AM NOT GOING TO BLAME ANYBODY.
1:24:45PM I AM JUST GOING TO SAY MOVING FORWARD, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD
1:24:48PM AND GET THE MASTER PLAN.
1:24:50PM CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
1:24:54PM AGAIN, NOT BEING AFRAID TO SAY WHAT THE TRUTH IS.
1:24:57PM I THINK THAT'S THE KEY TO THIS WHOLE SITUATION.
1:25:00PM BUT LIKE I TELL EVERYBODY, SHE DOES HAVE A BOSS.
1:25:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:25:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:25:07PM AND FIRST I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE.
1:25:11PM I KNOW WE ARE GOING ON HOURS AND HOURS OF YOUR TIME.
1:25:14PM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
1:25:15PM AND THANK YOU TO NICK STOCCO WHO IS ALWAYS IN COMMUNICATION.
1:25:19PM YOU ARE CALLING ALL THE TIME WITH CONCERNS, AND YOU HAVE
1:25:23PM MENTIONED A QUOTE, SOMETHING THAT I SAID.
1:25:26PM WHY ARE WE WASTING MONEY ON CONSULTANTS?
1:25:29PM I UNDERSTAND WE NEED CONSULTANTS, WHATEVER.
1:25:31PM IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
1:25:32PM BUT HERE WE HAVE THE DATA.
1:25:33PM AND IF THE DATA SHOWS 17 ENGINES ARE OUTDATED, 17 RESCUE
1:25:39PM UNITS ARE OUTDATED, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH HIRES, 9 MINUTE
1:25:43PM RESPONSE TIME AVERAGE IN TAMPA WHERE THE STANDARD IS 4
1:25:46PM MINUTES, WE KNOW THE GOALS WE NEED TO BE AT.
1:25:48PM SO INSTEAD OF SPENDING MONEY ON CONSULTANTS TO TELL US WHAT
1:25:52PM WE ALREADY KNOW, THE DATA IS ALREADY THERE, WHAT WE NEED TO
1:25:54PM FIND AS A COUNCIL AND AS A CITY IS IN THE BUDGET TO ADDRESS
1:25:59PM THESE PROBLEMS, START SETTING GOALS, SAYING BECAUSE OF
1:26:04PM ATTRITION WE HIRED SO MANY, BUT SO MANY ARE RETIRING,
1:26:06PM WHATEVER THE REASON IS, WE ARE NOT MEETING THE STANDARD.
1:26:08PM I AM NOT BLAMING ANYBODY.
1:26:10PM I AM JUST TRYING TO MAKE THE PROCESS EASIER BECAUSE THE DATA
1:26:13PM IS HERE, WE KNOW THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE, WE KNOW THE DOLLAR
1:26:15PM AMOUNT, AND I UNDERSTAND WITH INFLATION AND EVERYTHING,
1:26:18PM EVERYTHING IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
1:26:19PM THE LONGER WE WAIT THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT'S GOING TO BE.
1:26:22PM BUT WE NEED TO DO THIS.
1:26:25PM TACKLING THE BUDGET INSTEAD OF DRESSING AND SAY OVER THE
1:26:27PM NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS, X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS WE ARE GOING TO
1:26:30PM ADDRESS REPLACING THESE ENGINES, REPLACING THESE RESCUE
1:26:34PM UNITS, HIRING MORE PEOPLE WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT MORE
1:26:37PM PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE RETIRING SO WE MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF
1:26:41PM SERVICE AND THAT BALANCE AS WELL AS ADDRESSING THE NEED FOR
1:26:45PM MORE FIRE STATIONS.
1:26:46PM YOU MENTIONED THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR PROPERTY ALSO AS I
1:26:52PM MENTIONED WITH THE POLICE, TAMPA IS GROWING RAPIDLY, AND
1:26:55PM MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE.
1:26:56PM WATER SHOE WAS MENTIONED, A CITY WITHIN A CITY, WHERE YOU
1:26:59PM HAVE ONE STATION THAT IS GOING TO BE RESPONDING TO THAT.
1:27:03PM HOW WE FILL THAT GAP.
1:27:05PM WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
1:27:06PM IT'S ABOUT US VOTING YES AND SUPPORTING THE BUDGET.
1:27:09PM THE MAYOR, THE CFO, FINDING THE MONEY, OR LOOKING AT
1:27:13PM DIFFERENT AVENUES AS TO HOW WE REACH THESE GOALS.
1:27:15PM YOU ARE DOING THE BEST THAT YOU CAN DO.
1:27:17PM , I BELIEVE.
1:27:18PM BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONSULTANTS AND MASTER PLANS, WE HAVE
1:27:21PM DATA.
1:27:22PM I AM TAKING BRIEF NOTES HERE BUT A PRESENTATION WAS MADE OF
1:27:25PM THE GOALS THAT WE NEED TO ACHIEVE.
1:27:27PM I THINK IT'S SIMPLE IN GETTING THERE.
1:27:30PM WE ARE WASTING A LOT OF TIME MOTIONS AND WAITING AND THIS
1:27:34PM AND THAT WHERE THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE FOR US AND IT'S ABOUT
1:27:36PM MEETING THOSE GOALS.
1:27:37PM SO THAT'S IT.
1:27:38PM IT'S EASIER THAN IT LOOKS AND DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SO
1:27:42PM COMPLICATED.
1:27:43PM THANK YOU.
1:27:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:27:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID, THIS IS A
1:27:54PM SITUATION WHERE CITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THREE YEARS
1:27:57PM FOR SOMETHING, AND THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN ASKING FOR IT, THE
1:28:03PM UNIONS HAVE ASKED FOR IT AND WE WON'T HAVE IT YET.
1:28:07PM WHEN WE FOUND OUT TWO WEEKS AGO IN THE ELECTION AND SOME OF
1:28:10PM MY COLLEAGUES ARE STILL OUT THERE, IS THAT THE PUBLIC TAKE
1:28:13PM THAT ARE VOTING ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON, THEY ARE VERY
1:28:17PM CONCERNED AND TELLING US THEY WANT ACCOUNTABILITY, THEY WANT
1:28:20PM THE TRANSPARENCY THAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR, AND THEY
1:28:23PM SUPPORT US IN ASKING FOR THAT, AND I THINK WE ARE GOING TO
1:28:28PM HEAR FROM THEM MORE AND MORE GOING FORWARD.
1:28:31PM WHEN WE ASKED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, AND IT DOESN'T
1:28:34PM HAPPEN, AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THERE ARE
1:28:37PM TWO THOUGHTS THAT PROBABLY WE AND THE PUBLIC HAVE.
1:28:40PM ONE IS THAT THE PERSON BEING ASKED DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO DO
1:28:46PM IT, OR, NUMBER TWO, THAT THEY ARE HIDING SOMETHING, OR THE
1:28:51PM ADMINISTRATION IS HIDING SOMETHING, OR THAT THE
1:28:53PM ADMINISTRATION HAS TOLD PEOPLE NOT TO DO IT.
1:28:56PM KIND OF WHAT MY COLLEAGUES SAID.
1:28:58PM IF WE RESPOND IN A WAY WHERE WE GET ANGRY OR A LITTLE
1:29:02PM EMOTIONAL ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE ARE FRUSTRATED, THEN THE
1:29:05PM COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT PUSHES OUT THAT WE ARE CRAZY AND
1:29:08PM EMOTIONAL AND WE CAN'T CONTROL OURSELVES, WHEN IN FACT THE
1:29:13PM PROBLEM IS THAT WE ASK FOR SOMETHING BECAUSE THE PUBLIC
1:29:15PM WANTS IT FROM US, AND THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT DOING IT.
1:29:18PM COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT HAS A LOT OF TIME AND RESOURCES TO
1:29:22PM TAKE VIDEOS OF THE MAYOR WITH A DOG ON BAYSHORE DURING THE
1:29:25PM HURRICANE BUT NOT COMMUNICATE WITH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
1:29:29PM THERE'S ALL KIND OF STUFF GOING OUT, BUT FOR SOME REASON
1:29:32PM THERE WAS NOBODY IN THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT OR ANY OF
1:29:34PM THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS WHO COULD HELP WITH A CHIEF TRIPP
1:29:41PM WITH A PLAN.
1:29:41PM I THINK IT'S ABOUT PRIORITIES, BEING RESPECTFUL TO CITY
1:29:44PM COUNCIL, THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE THIS INFORMATION.
1:29:47PM BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS TODAY, AND THE PRIOR
1:29:48PM CONVERSATIONS THAT CHIEF TRIPP HAS HAD, I BELIEVE THAT CHIEF
1:29:52PM TRIPP HAS A HANDLE ON THE INFORMATION, THE UNION HAS A
1:29:56PM HANDLE ON THE INFORMATION.
1:29:57PM THE GAP IS THAT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO HELP CHIEF TRIPP WRITE
1:30:00PM THIS.
1:30:00PM THERE ARE ALL KIND OF BLOOMBERG PEOPLE.
1:30:06PM ONE OF THEM CAN SIT DOWN AND DO THIS.
1:30:08PM WHAT WAS YOUR MAJOR, GUIDO?
1:30:12PM IT WAS ENGLISH BUT HE UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE
1:30:15PM DONE.
1:30:15PM HE WENT THROUGH THE NUMBERS AND LAID OUT AN OUTLINE.
1:30:19PM HAVE YOU WRITTEN A STRATEGIC PLAN BEFORE?
1:30:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A STRATEGIC PLAN, NO.
1:30:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY TO SINGLE HIM OUT.
1:30:29PM I HAVE, AND WE NEED THE GOALS, WE NEED THE METRICS THAT ARE
1:30:37PM TIED TO HOW WE ARE GOING TO FIX THE GOALS, AND THEN WE CAN
1:30:40PM ORGANIZE EITHER BY REGION OR BY SERVICE OR BY PRODUCT, SO
1:30:46PM YOU HAVE CHIEF TRIPP, YOU WERE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE YOU NEED
1:30:51PM THE DISPATCH SYSTEM OR WHATEVER IT IS, YOU NEED THIS AND
1:30:54PM THAT, AND ONCE WE GET THAT THEN WE'LL HAVE THE DATA AND BE
1:30:57PM ABLE TO UNDERSTAND.
1:30:58PM ALL OF THAT ARE THINGS THAT YOU NEED.
1:31:00PM AND SOMEBODY NEEDS TO HELP YOU WRITE ALL OF THAT DOWN, PUT A
1:31:03PM COST TO IT AND PRIORITIZE IT.
1:31:05PM THERE'S NOT AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY EVERY YEAR, SO WE
1:31:08PM NEED TO MAP OUT OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS BASED ON POPULATION
1:31:11PM GROWTH AND THE STANDARD OF METRICS, WE SAW A VIDEO THAT HAS
1:31:16PM SOME STANDARD METRICS THERE, WE KNOW WE NEED TO REPLACE SOME
1:31:20PM OF THE EXISTING TRUCKS, WE NEED MORE RESCUE VEHICLES, WE
1:31:23PM NEED PROBABLY MORE STATIONS, WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE
1:31:29PM LADDER TRUCKS, WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE OF THE PACKS AND
1:31:33PM OTHER THINGS.
1:31:34PM WE KNOW MANY OF THE STATIONS ARE OUTDATED.
1:31:37PM THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH CARBON MONOXIDE AND FUMES IN SOME
1:31:41PM STATIONS.
1:31:41PM THEY NEED TO BE UPDATE ADD.
1:31:44PM THE FIREFIGHTERS HAVE TO SLEEP ARE IN NOT VERY GOOD BUT IF
1:31:49PM WE PUT ALL OF THAT DOWN IN A PLAN AND PUT THE HIGHEST
1:31:51PM PRIORITY, HOW DO WE SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES AND NOT GOING OVER
1:31:55PM THE FIVE MINUTES OR WHATEVER THAT SOMEBODY DIES FROM A
1:31:58PM STROKE OR HEART ATTACK.
1:31:59PM WHAT IS THE BASIC THAT WE NEED BASED ON WHERE WE ARE RIGHT
1:32:02PM NOW, AND THEN WE CONTINUE TO PRIORITIZE.
1:32:04PM IF WE HAVE A HUGE INFLUX OF TAX MONEY THEN WE PRIORITIZE A
1:32:09PM LITTLE BIT HIGHER, AND IF WE HAVE LESS MONEY WE PRIORITIZE
1:32:12PM LESS, BUT SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FILL THESE
1:32:15PM NEEDS AND WE NEED TO SET THE EXPECTATION OF THE MUST BE,
1:32:18PM BECAUSE ONCE THE PUBLIC FINDS OUT ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF THIS
1:32:20PM INFORMATION, THE WORD IS GETTING OUT, THEY ARE INCREDIBLY
1:32:24PM ALARMED.
1:32:24PM THE SITUATION HAPPENED SOUTH OF GANDY, AND I WON'T TALK
1:32:27PM ABOUT DETAILS, BUT IT WAS PUBLICIZE AND SPREAD ALL OVER
1:32:32PM SOCIAL MEDIA AND PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
1:32:34PM THEY ARE LOOKING TO US AND THEY DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE
1:32:37PM BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION, CITY AND MAYOR.
1:32:39PM THEY ARE JUST LOOKING TO THE CITY TOCK PROVIDE A PLAN TO
1:32:41PM SHOW THAT WE GET THE MONEY WE ARE SOLVING THESE PROBLEMS.
1:32:44PM AND WE ARE PRIORITIZING SOME OF THE PROBLEMS.
1:32:46PM AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHY THINGS LIKE $12 MILLION BOAT
1:32:50PM HOUSES AND $40 MILLION PARKS ARE PRIORITIZED OVER BUYING
1:32:55PM FIRE TRUCKS AND HIRING POLICE OFFICERS AND HIRING FIRE
1:33:00PM PERSONNEL.
1:33:00PM SO IF YOU ALL CAN HELP US, ONE OF US CAN SIT DOWN AND HELP
1:33:06PM YOU WRITE IT, I GUESS, IF WE NEED TO.
1:33:09PM BUT I THINK TO SHOW THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR'S OFFICE
1:33:13PM ARE WORKING TOGETHER, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A ROBUST PLAN,
1:33:16PM AND IT NEEDS TO HAVE THE OUTLINE OF ALL THESE THINGS IN IT.
1:33:20PM AND I THINK CITY COUNCIL AN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, CHIEF TRIPP,
1:33:24PM OR STAFF AND UNION CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AND SHOW SOMETHING
1:33:27PM THAT WILL BE IMPRESSIVE TO THE PUBLIC AND FULLY COMMUNICATE
1:33:30PM AND BE TRANSPARENT.
1:33:31PM THANK YOU.
1:33:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:33:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.
1:33:35PM IN FACT WHAT WE HAVE HERE ARE TWO SIDES THAT ARE TRYING TO
1:33:38PM WORK TOGETHER BUT THEY ARE SO FAR APART.
1:33:41PM MR. STOCCO AND THE INDIVIDUAL FROM 754, AND YOU HAVE THE
1:33:45PM ADMINISTRATION AND THE CHIEF, AND WHEN YOU HEAR THE THINGS
1:33:48PM AND PUT THEM INTO PERSPECTIVE, EVERYTHING, I BELIEVE BOTH OF
1:33:53PM YOU.
1:33:53PM BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE SOLVE IT?
1:34:00PM I'M SURE THAT YOU HAVE HAD DIRECT CONVERSATION WITH THE
1:34:02PM CHIEF.
1:34:03PM I'M SURE OF THAT.
1:34:04PM HOWEVER, HOW DO WE GET WHERE WE ARE GOING?
1:34:07PM THE RESPONSE TIME IS 13.1.
1:34:09PM THE AVERAGE TIME WAS 7 MINUTES INSTEAD OF 13.01.
1:34:15PM 49% GREATER THAN THE OTHER.
1:34:17PM SO WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO BE 49% GREATER THAN THE OTHER
1:34:20PM BECAUSE THE OTHER MAY NOT GET WHAT THEY NEED WHEN THEY NEED
1:34:25PM IT MOST, AND THAT IS TO LIVE.
1:34:27PM THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE VERY, VERY DEAR TO ANYONE'S HEART.
1:34:30PM YOU HAVE YOUR WORKERS HERE, GREAT FIREFIGHTERS, I KNOW YOU
1:34:36PM ALL HAVE CONTESTS ALL OVER THE STATE AND DIFFERENT THINGS
1:34:38PM BUT HOW TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF A CRASHED CAR, IT'S AMAZING
1:34:43PM WHAT IS DONE IN A FEW MINUTES.
1:34:45PM AND LIKE I SAID TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE THE SAME
1:34:51PM MENTAL CAPACITY AND SEE THINGS THAT NORMAL, NORMAL MEANING
1:34:58PM WE DON'T WORK IN THE AREA THAT YOU DO, WE MAY BE TYPING OR
1:35:01PM BUILDING SOMETHING OR WHATEVER IT IS, PAINTING OR WHATEVER,
1:35:04PM BUILDING A HOUSE, YOU SEE THE OPPOSITE END OF WHAT SOCIETY
1:35:07PM SEES.
1:35:08PM YOU SEE THE TRAGEDIES.
1:35:11PM IN MOST INSTANCES.
1:35:12PM YES, YOU SAVE LIVES.
1:35:14PM BUT US, IF A CAR, A BODY IS THERE BUT HALF OF IT IS MISSING,
1:35:21PM WE DON'T SEE THAT.
1:35:21PM YOU GUYS DO.
1:35:22PM AND THAT'S A HARD THING TO LIVE WITH.
1:35:24PM AND WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF VACANCIES DUE TO WHATEVER IT IS,
1:35:27PM NO ONE EVER EXPLAINS WHAT IT IS TO US.
1:35:29PM I WOULD IMAGINE BECAUSE OF INJURIES SOME OF SORT.
1:35:32PM I AM JUST MAKING A GUESS.
1:35:33PM SO I THINK THESE THINGS ARE SOLVABLE.
1:35:35PM AND I THINK YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET IT OUT OF ONE BUDGET
1:35:39PM CYCLE.
1:35:39PM BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FIREFIGHTERS ARE LEAVING.
1:35:42PM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE COMING OUT.
1:35:44PM SO IT'S GOT TO BE FOR EVERY ONE TO LEAVE YOU HAVE TO HAVE
1:35:47PM TWO, I GUESS, TO CATCH UP, IN THE TIME FRAME SO YOU DON'T
1:35:52PM HIRE EVERY WEEK, YOU HIRE A GROUP AT A TIME, 15 OR 20.
1:35:56PM I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE CEREMONIES.
1:35:58PM SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO WORK ON BUT IT'S GOT
1:36:01PM TO BE BOTH SIDES SITTING DOWN AND SAYING, HERE IS HOW WE ARE
1:36:05PM GOING TO END IT.
1:36:07PM WE HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN TO SAY HERE IS HOW WE ARE GOING TO
1:36:10PM GET FROM THAT 13.1 DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY 7%.
1:36:13PM 7 MINUTES, I SHOULD SAY.
1:36:15PM AND I THINK THIS COUNCIL WANTS TO WORK WITH BOTH OF YOU.
1:36:18PM I THINK YOU HAVE HAD CONVERSATION IN THE PAST AND YOU ARE
1:36:21PM STILL TALKING TO EACH OTHER SO THAT'S WONDERFUL.
1:36:24PM AND THAT'S WHAT I SEE COMING.
1:36:25PM I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.
1:36:27PM COUNCIL WANTS TO WORK WITH BOTH SIDES TO GET THIS RESOLVED.
1:36:30PM AND THE ENGINES NOW AND THE AMBULANCES, WHEN I CAME ON,
1:36:36PM $100,000, NOW IT'S 400, 500,000 BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A
1:36:41PM BIGGER CHASSIS, YOU CAN SAVE MORE LIVES, AND THEY TAKE A
1:36:45PM BEATING.
1:36:45PM THEY REALLY DO.
1:36:46PM SO YOU NEED 350, 450, BUT A 550 RANGE TO HANDLE THE LOAD AND
1:36:52PM TO HANDLE WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE STREETS.
1:36:54PM THE ENGINES ARE TWICE AS EXPENSIVE OR THREE TIMES MORE THAN
1:36:57PM WHEN I FIRST STARTED, AND RIGHTLY SO.
1:36:59PM WHY?
1:37:00PM THEY HAVE A LOT MORE CAPACITY, THEY CAN DO A LOT MORE THINGS
1:37:03PM THAN THEY DID 30 TO 40 YEARS AGO.
1:37:05PM AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO FOR THE
1:37:07PM CITIZENS.
1:37:07PM NOT FOR OURSELVES, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT YOU GUYS WORK FOR
1:37:11PM AND WE WORK FOR.
1:37:12PM IT'S THE SAME ONE.
1:37:13PM THAT'S OUR BOSS, THE CITIZENS.
1:37:16PM SO I THINK BOTH OF YOU TOGETHER, WORKING TOGETHER, COMING UP
1:37:19PM WITH A PLAN, YOU CAN'T BUILD ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER SIDE IN
1:37:26PM THAT TYPE OF COMMUNICATION AND I AM NOT SAYING YOU HAVE DONE
1:37:28PM THAT.
1:37:28PM I AM SAYING BOTH OF YOU TRIED TO GET TO THAT POINT AND YOU
1:37:32PM SHOULD GET TO THAT POINT.
1:37:33PM WHATEVER MOTION, I THINK MR. VIERA IS TAKING THE LEAD, AND I
1:37:36PM JUST 2022 SAY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING EVERY MONTH OR
1:37:39PM TWO MONTHS, AND A CONSULTANT IS FINE, BUT THE PROBLEM IS ALL
1:37:44PM THE NUMBERS ARE HERE.
1:37:45PM SO WHY SPEND THE MONEY ON A CONSULTANT IF ALL THE NUMBERS
1:37:49PM ARE HERE, AND THEY ARE FACTUAL AND SUSTAINABLE, WHY ARE WE
1:37:52PM GOING TO SPEND A NEW FIRE TRUCK AND GIVE IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE
1:37:57PM THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.
1:37:58PM YOU CAN HAVE TWO OR THREE EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
1:38:01PM LET'S FACE IT.
1:38:02PM SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED TO WORK A SITUATION
1:38:09PM SO ALL OF US BEING THE CITIZENS GET THE BEST RESULT AND THE
1:38:13PM BEST BUCK FOR THE DOLLAR SPENT.
1:38:15PM A DOLLAR SPENT CAN BE A DOLLAR VALUE FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT
1:38:18PM AND I THINK ALL OF YOU CAN DO THIS TOGETHER.
1:38:22PM MR. VIERA IS TAKING THE LEAD SO I AM GOING TO GIVE THE LEAD
1:38:24PM BACK TO HIM, BUT THOSE THINGS ARE DOABLE, AND I AM NOT IN
1:38:30PM FIRE AND POLICE BUT SOMEONE IS.
1:38:31PM I THINK THAT PERSON SHOULD WORK WITH YOU GUYS ON BOTH SIDE
1:38:34PM OF THE ISSUE AND GET THESE THINGS RESOLVED.
1:38:37PM I WANT TO THANK YOU, MR. STOCCO, THE UNION, AND THE FIRE
1:38:41PM CHIEF NOR YOUR RESPONSE, AS COUNCILMAN GUDES SAID, VERY
1:38:45PM SINCERE UP FRONT.
1:38:46PM THANK YOU BOTH.
1:38:47PM >> I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK, NICK STOCCO,
1:38:57PM 754.
1:38:58PM THE LOCAL AS WELL AS WITH ALL RESPECT TO THE FIRE CHIEF
1:39:03PM FIRST BULLET POINT, HEALTH AND SAFETY.
1:39:05PM I MENTION BEING OVERWORKED.
1:39:08PM WE ARE OVERWORKED, AND BEING OVERWORKED, WHEN YOU SAW, WE
1:39:15PM SEE THE DIFFERENT SIDE THAT YOU ALL DON'T SEE.
1:39:18PM SO IF WE NEED THAT DAY, WE HAVE THAT LEAD.
1:39:23PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT MENTION.
1:39:26PM YOU TALK ABOUT PEOPLE NOT BEING AT WORK.
1:39:28PM THANK YOU.
1:39:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU FOR YOUR
1:39:32PM PRESENTATIONS.
1:39:38PM IT KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT WE SAW WITH THE POLICE, BUT WAS
1:39:41PM ILLUSTRATED QUITE HONESTLY WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FIRE
1:39:47PM RESCUE FOR 1710.
1:39:50PM IT'S THE VISUAL, IT'S SUPER CLEAR AND EASY TO READ AND THEY
1:39:53PM HAVE A PLAN GOING FORWARD.
1:39:56PM I KNOW THAT THAT PROGRAM WILL HELP GET US TO THAT IDEALLY,
1:40:03PM BUT IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER COUNCILMAN VIERA SAYS, I STILL
1:40:08PM WILL SAY THAT A CONSULTANT CAN BRING THESE TWO THINGS
1:40:12PM TOGETHER AND GO FORWARD.
1:40:13PM WE DON'T HAVE TO STOP BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING, BUT I WOULD
1:40:17PM LOVE TO SEE WHAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS FOR US GOING
1:40:22PM FORWARD, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S DIFFICULT FOR
1:40:28PM THEM TO UPDATE IT EVERY FEW YEARS BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE THE
1:40:31PM HARD WORK OF PUTTING IT ALL TOGETHER.
1:40:34PM SO WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON WHAT WE ARE
1:40:36PM DOING, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING I'M HEARING THAT WE ARE
1:40:39PM DOING, BUT WE HAVE A DEFICIT.
1:40:41PM WE HAVE A LOT OF DEFICITS.
1:40:43PM AND I KNOW SOMETIMES FOLKS ARE RECEIPT SENT TO SAY, HEY, WE
1:40:50PM NEED HELP, BUT IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT WE NEED HELP.
1:40:55PM WE ARE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE, AND WE CAN'T
1:40:59PM DO ANYTHING ABOUT THESE DELAYS FOR GETTING THIS EQUIPMENT,
1:41:03PM BUT IF WE HAD HAD THAT PLAN IN PLACE, POSSIBLY WE COULD HAVE
1:41:07PM DONE A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND IN THE FUTURE WE CAN DO MORE.
1:41:10PM WE CAN PLAN FOR THIS.
1:41:13PM SO THAT'S WHAT'S CONCERNING TO ME, IS WE JUST DON'T HAVE A
1:41:16PM PLAN FOR WHAT'S COMING UP IN THE FUTURE.
1:41:18PM I FEEL LIKE WE ARE WORKING INCREDIBLY HARD.
1:41:23PM IT FEELS LIKE THE DUCK PEDDLING ON THE WATER WHERE IT SEEMS
1:41:30PM LIKE IT'S GOING SEAMLESSLY TO THE PUBLIC BUT WE ARE PEDDLING
1:41:33PM SO HARD TO TRY TO GET MORE BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY NEED MORE
1:41:38PM AND THAT'S WHAT I MOSTLY HERE.
1:41:39PM I AM ALSO CONCERNED THAT THIS IN THE FITCH REPORT THAT I SAW
1:41:43PM PART OF WAS NOT PART OF SIRE FOR THIS.
1:41:46PM I AM CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THAT.
1:41:50PM I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, SO I WOULD LOVE A COPY OF THAT REPORT AND
1:41:54PM I WOULD LOVE IT TO BE UPLOADED TO SIRE SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE
1:41:57PM IT.
1:41:58PM THE PUBLIC ULTIMATELY PAID FOR THAT.
1:42:00PM SO THEY NEED TO SEE IT.
1:42:03PM I ALSO HEARD SOMETHING FROM MR. STOCCO SAYING THAT HE
1:42:08PM DOESN'T KNOW HOW MUCH THAT COST.
1:42:10PM AND THAT'S ALSO A GOOD POINT.
1:42:11PM I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW MUCH THIS CONSULTANT WAS PAID, AND
1:42:18PM MAYBE THEY DID THESE THINGS THAT WE WANTED DONE.
1:42:21PM I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED.
1:42:23PM THIS WAS BEFORE I JOINED COUNCIL, BUT I AM A LITTLE CONFUSED
1:42:27PM IF THERE WAS A REPORT DONE, WHY AREN'T WE USING THAT?
1:42:32PM SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO ADD TO MR. VIERA'S MOTION, IS
1:42:36PM TO MAKE THAT REPORT AVAILABLE NOT ONLY TO US BUT ABSOLUTELY
1:42:40PM TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND SEE WHAT WAS DONE THERE.
1:42:45PM I LOOK FORWARD TO MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
1:42:50PM BUT EVEN MORE, THE ACTION.
1:42:52PM SO THANK YOU.
1:42:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
1:42:58PM MR. VIERA, BEFORE YOU GO ON, WHAT I SAID EARLIER HOLDS TRUE
1:43:02PM FOR THIS.
1:43:03PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITIZENS TO FIREFIGHTER RATIO
1:43:08PM NATIONAL STANDARDS, BUDGETING, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD 10%, MAKE
1:43:13PM SURE THAT'S RESERVED SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY
1:43:17PM AND CANNOT BE SPENT ANYWHERE ELSE, SO THAT IN THE CASE OF
1:43:21PM WHAT WE SAW EARLIER WITH THE RESPIRATORS AND WHATNOT, WE
1:43:26PM DON'T HAVE TO ASK FOR THAT MONEY COMING FROM COUNCIL.
1:43:29PM IT WILL BE THERE AND AVAILABLE.
1:43:32PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHELBY.
1:43:34PM MR. VIERA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD.
1:43:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
1:43:38PM AND PLEASE, IF THERE'S ANY AMENDMENTS TO THIS, I HAVE JUST
1:43:42PM BEEN TAKING NOTES.
1:43:44PM WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY, TO THE EXTENT SOMETIMES YOU HAVE GOT
1:43:47PM TO PUSH ON THINGS.
1:43:49PM I MEAN, I ALWAYS CREDIT LOCAL 754 WITH THE NORTH TAMPA
1:43:55PM STATION 13, AND THE TERRIBLE THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING
1:43:58PM THERE, AND THE REAL PUSH THEY MADE TO AFFECT CHANGE ON THAT
1:44:03PM FOR THE HARD WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OUT THERE, AND A LOT OF
1:44:06PM TIMES YOU HAVE GOT TO PUSH.
1:44:08PM SO I WANT THIS TO RETURN.
1:44:10PM I HAD MOTIONED FOR POLICE TO RETURN IN AUGUST, BUT I AM
1:44:14PM GOING TO PUSH FOR THIS, AND AGAIN COUNCIL DISCUSSED IT BE IN
1:44:18PM JUNE, A LITTLE BIT BEFORE, JUST BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED THIS SO
1:44:20PM MUCH WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, MANY, MANY, MANY TIMES.
1:44:24PM AND ON A COUPLE OF ISSUES WHICH IS NUMBER ONE TO DISCUSS THE
1:44:27PM PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN WITH NEW STATIONS, RESPONSE TIMES,
1:44:32PM WORKING CONDITIONS, CITIZEN TO FIRE RATIO, CHAIRMAN CITRO'S
1:44:41PM 10% RULE, AND EQUIPMENT -- THANK YOU, SIR, EQUIPMENT -- AND
1:44:45PM THEN A CONSULTANT.
1:44:47PM I AM WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ON THE CONSULTANT.
1:44:50PM THAT'S ME.
1:44:51PM I THINK IF WE DO SOMETHING IN-HOUSE, WE COULD POTENTIALLY
1:44:54PM GET TO TODAY IN THREE MONTHS, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, I
1:44:58PM DON'T WANT THAT.
1:44:58PM I DON'T WANT THAT.
1:45:00PM SO, YES.
1:45:01PM SO I AM PUTTING IN THERE A CONSULTANT.
1:45:03PM I WILL MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION TO HAVE THAT REPORT AVAILABLE
1:45:06PM TO THE PUBLIC.
1:45:06PM I DON'T THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE ANYTHING BACK TO COUNCIL ON
1:45:10PM THAT, GOD FORBID, RIGHT?
1:45:12PM BUT LET ME MAKE THAT FIRST MOTION AND THEN I WILL MAKE THE
1:45:15PM CONSULTANT.
1:45:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE] THIS CONTINUALLY COMES
1:45:26PM FROM THE TAXPAYERS.
1:45:32PM THERE WAS A CONSULTANT -- BECAUSE YOU HAVE A FITCH REPORT.
1:45:41PM I MEAN, ARE THEY NOT GETTING THAT?
1:45:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE REPORT THAT THE
1:45:47PM PRESIDENT --
1:45:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
1:45:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WOULD YOU MIND TELLING US, WHERE DID YOU
1:45:53PM GET THIS?
1:45:55PM >> STOCCO: PULLED A RECORDS REQUEST.
1:45:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHERE DID THE REPORT COME FROM?
1:46:02PM >> THE CITY OF TAMPA.
1:46:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THE REPORTS THAT YOU SHOWED US FROM 2017,
1:46:06PM 2020?
1:46:08PM >> THE FITCH AND ASSOCIATES REPORTS.
1:46:15PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THAT WAS 2022.
1:46:17PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: 2022?
1:46:20PM >> THERE MAY BE MORE THAN ONE OUT THERE.
1:46:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:46:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL AMEND MY MOTION, OR MY SECOND,
1:46:33PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS AMENABLE TO THIS, IS ON THE
1:46:37PM FEASIBILITY OF A CONSULTANT.
1:46:38PM HOW ABOUT THAT?
1:46:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE.
1:46:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: WELL TAKEN.
1:46:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:46:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
1:46:51PM GETTING BACK TO THE SUBJECT OF THE 10 PERCENT CONTINGENCY, I
1:46:54PM JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR AS CHIEF BENNETT STATED, THAT IS NOT
1:47:00PM AN INDISCRIMINATE FUND FOR THE DEPARTMENTS TO USE IT.
1:47:04PM IT IS A FUND BALANCE SET-ASIDE THAT IS DESIGNATED FOR PUBLIC
1:47:10PM SAFETY.
1:47:12PM IT STILL, AS MR. BENNETT DID STATE, HAS TO COME BACK TO
1:47:15PM COUNCIL, WHICH RAISES THE QUESTION AS TO BE THIS FITCH
1:47:18PM REPORT THAT WAS OBTAINED THROUGH A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST,
1:47:21PM DID THAT REQUEST COME THROUGH COUNCIL AT SOME POINT IN ITS
1:47:25PM CONSENT DOCKET THAT COUNCIL APPROVED A CONSULTANT'S REPORT
1:47:31PM TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA?
1:47:39PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND WE ARE GOING ON ALMOST 2:00.
1:47:42PM I DON'T WANT TO GO -- MAYBE WE CAN DO IT AT A DIFFERENT
1:47:49PM TIME.
1:47:51PM I DON'T DISAGREE.
1:47:53PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I AM SITTING DOWN
1:47:58PM AND RAISING A POINT.
1:48:02PM WHAT WAS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT TO DO THIS BEFORE?
1:48:07PM AND DID IT SOLVE A PROBLEM?
1:48:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CHIEF TRIPP IS SITTING THERE SHAKING HER
1:48:20PM HEAD.
1:48:21PM MAYBE YOU WANT TO BE ASK CHIEF TRIPP THAT QUESTION.
1:48:24PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:48:27PM DO YOU WANT TO ASK HER THAT QUESTION?
1:48:31PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: FIRST OF ALL LET ME SAY WHEN IT COMES TO IN
1:48:33PM MASTER PLAN NO ONE HAS TOLD ME NOT TO PRESENT A MASTER PLAN,
1:48:36PM AND NO ONE HAS, BECAUSE WHEN I SIT DOWN LIKE I SAY WITH THIS
1:48:39PM ADMINISTRATION AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, IT'S
1:48:42PM GOING TO TAKE A LOT MORE, BECAUSE STILL EVERYTHING, WE GOT
1:48:47PM THE STATIONS WHICH I PUT THAT IN MY BUDGET, AS FAR AS
1:48:50PM REMODELING THE STATIONS, SO A LOT OF THAT IS IN THERE.
1:48:54PM NOW, IF YOU WANT, BECAUSE LIKE I SAY, FROM YOUR
1:48:57PM CONVERSATION, MR. VIERA, AS FAR AS CERTAIN SPECIFIC STUFF, I
1:49:00PM DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION WHEN IT COMES TO DOLLARS BECAUSE
1:49:03PM WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAD SYSTEM.
1:49:05PM I CAN TELL YOU WHAT WE NEED, AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR ME
1:49:08PM BEING BULLET POINTS.
1:49:09PM NO ONE HAS TOLD ME DON'T PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH A MASTER PLAN.
1:49:12PM I JUST FELT LIKE IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING
1:49:17PM FOR.
1:49:17PM SO LET ME TALK ABOUT THE BULLETS, WHAT I FOUND, WHERE I AM
1:49:20PM AT AND THE PLANS I HAVE GOING FORWARD.
1:49:22PM AND I KNOW IT'S GETTING TIME FOR LUNCH BECAUSE I AM ACTUALLY
1:49:25PM GETTING HANGRY.
1:49:29PM I HAVEN'T ATE ALL DAY.
1:49:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?
1:49:35PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: SO I WANTED TO TRY TO SEE HOW WE COULD GET
1:49:37PM SOME INFORMATION, DATA WISE, SO WE WENT THROUGH OUR PROCESS
1:49:42PM OF PURCHASING, AND WE WAS ABLE TO GET A CONSULTANT AND COME
1:49:46PM UP WITH THE SCOPE OF SERVICES.
1:49:49PM I DON'T HAVE THAT FIGURE IN FRONT OF ME.
1:49:51PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
1:49:59PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: NO, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYTHING UNDER 100
1:50:02PM COMES TO YOU GUYS.
1:50:02PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NO VOTE WAS OFFHAND.
1:50:05PM BUT THAT WHEREAS SOMETHING WHEN I FIRST GOT IN TO TRY TO
1:50:08PM HELP ME GET SOME OF THIS INFORMATION OF WHAT WE NEED, OF
1:50:10PM WHAT WE NEED.
1:50:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF
1:50:18PM TRIPP?
1:50:19PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [OFF MICROPHONE]
1:50:23PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THAT'S FINE.
1:50:23PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: A CONSULTANT AT TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
1:50:36PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO ACTUALLY GO OUTSIDE
1:50:39PM AND HAVE SOMEONE COME IN.
1:50:40PM I CAN SEE WHAT SOME OF THE CONCERNS ARE AND WE ARE WORKING
1:50:42PM ON THOSE CONCERNS BUT LIKE I SAY THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS
1:50:45PM THAT PLAYS INTO THIS.
1:50:46PM I CAN'T HELP TO GET 17 VEHICLES.
1:50:51PM THAT'S NOT THIS ADMINISTRATION'S FAULT.
1:50:53PM WE ARE CORRECTING THAT.
1:50:54PM SO I DON'T CARE IF YOU SIT HERE AND SAY I WANT YOU TO ORDER
1:50:58PM 17 VEHICLES.
1:50:58PM YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET THEM FOR AT LEAST A FEW YEARS.
1:51:01PM SO MY PLAN, MY REPLACEMENT PLAN, I AM LOOKING INTO A
1:51:04PM REPLACEMENT PLAN THAT WE CAN GET THESE UNITS ON THE STREETS.
1:51:09PM I AM JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU.
1:51:10PM THERE'S NO WAY.
1:51:12PM SAME THING WITH THE BOATS AND STUFF.
1:51:14PM I GOT A 2009 OR 2003 BOAT THAT'S OUTDATED.
1:51:19PM I NEED TO GET THIS.
1:51:20PM AND THIS IS ALL IN MY BUDGET THAT I AM PRESENTING WHILE OF
1:51:23PM COURSE PUTTING IN TO GET THIS --
1:51:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: BUT THE FITCH PLAN, OBVIOUSLY SOME THINGS
1:51:30PM IN THAT PLAN --
1:51:31PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: OH, YES, GOES RIGHT TO THE RESOURCES AND
1:51:34PM THAT'S WHAT I AM DOING, IS THE RESOURCES AND AS FAR AS THE
1:51:39PM NUMBER OF CALL VOLUMES AND STUFF, AND I AM WORKING ON.
1:51:42PM THAT I AM WORKING ON PUTTING THE RESOURCES WHERE THEY NEED
1:51:45PM TO BE.
1:51:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HANG ON, PLEASE.
1:51:48PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, PLEASE.
1:51:49PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS NEXT AND THEN COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND
1:51:52PM THEN I WILL COME BACK TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:51:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THIS A SECONDARY
1:52:01PM MOTION --
1:52:03PM >> THE REPORT.
1:52:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE REPORT.
1:52:05PM BUT MY QUESTION WITH THE REPORT, IS THERE MORE THAN ONE
1:52:08PM REPORT?
1:52:09PM AND JUST MAKING SURE, NOT ONLY THAT WE GET A COPY OF IT, BUT
1:52:13PM IT'S PUT IN SIRE SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE IT.
1:52:17PM THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
1:52:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:52:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: CHIEF TRIPP, AGAIN I NOTICE YOU ARE
1:52:26PM OVERSTRETCHED AND HAVE TOO MUCH GOING ON RIGHT NOW AS YOU
1:52:28PM ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THINGS.
1:52:30PM BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS, BETWEEN PUTTING IN A BUDGET FOR ONE
1:52:33PM YEAR VERSUS HAVING A MULTIYEAR PLAN, AND THE ISSUES YOU ARE
1:52:38PM MENTIONING ABOUT CAD AND THE SHORTAGE OF VEHICLES, ALL OF
1:52:42PM THAT WOULD BE IN THE PLAN.
1:52:44PM AND PART OF THE PLAN WOULD BE A BUDGET, BUT ALSO WOULD BE
1:52:46PM PRIORITIZING.
1:52:50PM PROBABLY YOU CAN GET A CONSULTANT TO DO IT.
1:52:52PM I CAN JUST TELL YOU, JUST SPEAKING INDIVIDUALLY, I WOULD BE
1:52:55PM WILLING TO VOLUNTEER HALF A DAY OR DAY TO SIT DOWN AND HELP
1:52:58PM YOU ALL WITH AN OUTLINE OF IT.
1:53:00PM WAY WOULD RECOMMEND, AS AN INTERIM STEP, AND NOT AS PART OF
1:53:04PM A MOTION BUT JUST INTERIM STEP FOR YOU, WOULD BE SOMETIME
1:53:07PM BETWEEN NOW AND WHATEVER COUNCILMAN VIERA IS SCHEDULING THIS
1:53:11PM NEXT UPDATE, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU WORK WITH CHIEF OF
1:53:14PM STAFF AND THE UNION AND WHOMEVER ELSE AND JUST WORK ON THE
1:53:21PM OUTLINE OF WHAT THE PLAN WOULD LOOK LIKE, WITHOUT
1:53:24PM NECESSARILY ALL THE NUMBERS OR WORDS PLUGGED IN, AND JUST
1:53:27PM SOCIALIZE IT BACK TO US, AND IF YOU GET FEEDBACK ON IT THAT
1:53:31PM WOULD SAVE A LONG CONVERSATION LIKE THIS AND START AN
1:53:35PM INTERIM WAY POINT SO THE FIRST THING WOULD BE TO SPEND THE
1:53:38PM NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS WORKING ON SOMETHING AND COME BACK
1:53:40PM AND SAY, OH, NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED.
1:53:43PM IN THE MEANTIME I THINK THERE'S BASIC STANDARDS FOR WHAT A
1:53:46PM PLAN WOULD LIKE LOOK LIKE AND NICK HAD SOME EXAMPLES FOR
1:53:50PM THEM, WHETHER THAT'S THE BEST EXAMPLE OR NOT.
1:53:53PM I HAVEN'T REALLY LOOKED AT THEM.
1:53:55PM I THINK THERE IS EXPERTISE IN THE CITY TO AT LEAST OUTLINE A
1:53:59PM PLAN AND THEN ONCE YOU HAVE THAT, YOU CAN PLUG IN SOME OF
1:54:02PM THE NUMBERS AND WORDS.
1:54:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AGAIN I THINK HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WAS
1:54:07PM MENTIONED THAT THEY HAVE DONE SOMETHING AND THEY CREATED I
1:54:09PM DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE AT BETWEEN 7 AND 13.
1:54:12PM MAYBE THEY ARE THERE.
1:54:13PM MAYBE THEY ARE 7, 8, 9.
1:54:16PM I DON'T KNOW.
1:54:17PM BUT I AM SURE -- AND THE REASON I AM TALKING RIGHT NOW ABOUT
1:54:19PM NOT HAVING A CONSULTANT IS FIRST WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE
1:54:22PM PROBLEM.
1:54:24PM SECOND, THE PROBLEM HAS PROBLEMS BECAUSE EITHER YOU
1:54:27PM IDENTIFY, IT HAS TWO OR THREE YEARS FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM
1:54:30PM CHIEF TRIPP IN GETTING EQUIPMENT IN.
1:54:32PM THAT'S NUMBER TWO.
1:54:33PM AND NUMBER THREE IS WE HAVE TO A GROWING POPULATION THAT HAS
1:54:36PM TO BE CONFIGURED WITH THOSE NUMBERS.
1:54:38PM WE HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION.
1:54:40PM THIS IS NOTHING THAT CONSULTANTS ARE GOING TO FIND
1:54:43PM DIFFERENT.
1:54:43PM I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION, THE THREE
1:54:47PM INDIVIDUALS GET TOGETHER, AND IT MAY NOT BE 100% PERFECT.
1:54:51PM YOU MIGHT WANT TO GIVE IT TO A CONSULTANT TO FIND OUT WHO IS
1:54:55PM RIGHT OR WRONG TO MEET THE OBJECTIVE OR THE GOAL.
1:54:58PM SO WHAT I AM SAYING, THE CHIEF IS HERE, CHIEF OF FIRE
1:55:02PM DEPARTMENT IS HERE, MR. STOCCO HERE, 754.
1:55:05PM AND I THINK THIS CAN BE SOLVED IN-HOUSE ON A PLAN THAT TAKES
1:55:10PM A LITTLE TIME TO GET WHERE WE ARE AT AND HOW WE ARE GOING TO
1:55:14PM GO.
1:55:14PM HOW MANY RETIREDS ARE GOING TO RETIRE?
1:55:19PM IF EVERYONE IS RETIRED DO WE NEED ONE OR TWO TO GET IN?
1:55:22PM THOSE ARE THINGS YOU FOLKS KNOW.
1:55:24PM WE DON'T KNOW THEM.
1:55:25PM I THEM IT CAN BE WORKED OUT IN-HOUSE.
1:55:27PM MAYBE I'M WRONG.
1:55:28PM BUT I THINK HOW YOU DO THAT BY HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH
1:55:32PM EACH OTHER.
1:55:33PM AND THAT'S HOW YOU SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS.
1:55:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY.
1:55:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:55:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: TO HAVE THIS BACK THE FIRST WEEK IN JUNE I
1:55:44PM THINK WOULD BE FINE.
1:55:45PM AND THE BIG THING I AM LOOKING FOR IS, WHAT STEPS ARE BEING
1:55:48PM TAKEN TO MAKE THIS PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN HAPPEN?
1:55:52PM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET TODAY
1:55:54PM THAT WAS CONTINUED FROM BEFORE, ET CETERA.
1:55:57PM THAT'S THE GIST OF WHAT I WANT IN JUNE.
1:55:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 15TH?
1:56:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
1:56:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:56:08PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:56:09PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
1:56:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE WAY TO SOLVE THIS REAL FAST WOULD BE TO
1:56:18PM SAY THAT CITY COUNCIL NO LONGER APPROVES BUDGET INCREASES
1:56:23PM FOR POLICE OR FIRE UNLESS THOSE ITEMS ARE INCLUDED IN THE
1:56:29PM PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
1:56:30PM I AM NOT MAKING THAT MOTION NOW, BUT JUST IF WE TIE IT TO
1:56:35PM BUDGET, WE SHOULD NOT BE APPROVING THINGS ON AN AD HOC
1:56:39PM BASIS.
1:56:42PM WE HAVE A CAPACITY ISSUE WITHIN THE CITY THAT ALMOST EVERY
1:56:45PM DEPARTMENT IS NOT USED TO PLANNING, AND WE NEED TO FIX THAT.
1:56:49PM THANK YOU.
1:56:49PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
1:56:52PM CARLSON.
1:56:52PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:56:54PM LET'S TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
1:56:57PM EXCUSE ME.
1:56:58PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:56:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:57:01PM >> TO REQUEST STEPS TAKEN FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
1:57:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT STEPS ARE BEING TAKEN FROM HERE TO THEN
1:57:12PM FOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN TO ACTUALLY TO BE DONE,
1:57:16PM AND THAT WILL INCLUDE FEASIBILITY OF A CONSULTANT, NEW
1:57:19PM STATIONS, ALL THE THINGS WE WENT OVER, RESPONSE TIMES,
1:57:23PM WORKING CONDITIONS, CITIZEN TO FIRE RATIO 10%.
1:57:27PM IF YOU NEED ME TO GET OUTSIDE WITH YOU ON IT BECAUSE YOU
1:57:31PM HAVE HAD A LONG STRETCH.
1:57:32PM AND EQUIPMENT.
1:57:34PM THANK YOU.
1:57:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
1:57:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
1:57:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
1:57:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
1:57:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
1:57:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
1:57:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
1:57:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
1:57:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
1:57:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
1:58:00PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:58:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND TO MAKE THE REPORT AVAILABLE TO THE
1:58:03PM PUBLIC WITHIN THE NEXT 48 HOURS.
1:58:08PM >> BY TOMORROW.
1:58:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
1:58:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:58:16PM SECONDED.
1:58:19PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:58:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I THINK WHEN LOOKING AT THIS REPORT, WE
1:58:28PM MAY BE ABLE TO USE THE FITCH AND ASSOCIATES IF THEY ALREADY
1:58:33PM HAVE THIS TO HELP BRING THIS PLAN TOGETHER.
1:58:37PM I THINK THIS WILL BE A SHORTER PLAN TIME THAN THE POLICE WHO
1:58:41PM HAVE A LOT LONGER TO GO.
1:58:43PM WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE AND IF IT'S NOT BRINGING
1:58:46PM IT TOGETHER AND MAKING SURE IT ALL FITS.
1:58:48PM I REALLY LOVE COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S IDEA OF PUTTING TOGETHER
1:58:52PM LIKE A LADDER PLAN, A SKELETON OUTLINE OF WHAT WE ALL WANT
1:58:58PM TO BE SEE AND BE ABLE TO FILL THOSE NUMBERS IN, NUMBERS WE
1:59:01PM MAY ALREADY HAVE.
1:59:03PM SO THANK YOU.
1:59:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:59:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: NICK, THOSE PLANS THAT YOU SHOWED FROM
1:59:11PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND THE PRIOR ONES FROM THE CITY OF
1:59:13PM TAMPA, DO YOU HAVE COPIES OF THOSE THAT WE CAN PUT INTO THE
1:59:16PM RECORD, OR CAN YOU COPY THEM AND E-MAIL THEM OR LET US HAVE
1:59:20PM THEM SO WE CAN COPY THEM AND CIRCULATE, PLEASE?
1:59:23PM >> I CAN GET YOU WHATEVER COPY YOU WANT, SO IF IT'S THOSE
1:59:26PM PLANS, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY'S PLANS, AS WELL AS THE FITCH
1:59:29PM PLAN, AS WELL AS WHATEVER I WILL BE ABLE TO GRAB FROM PUBLIC
1:59:32PM RECORDS, I WILL E-MAIL TO ALL OF YOU.
1:59:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT MAY NOT GO INTO SIRE BUT I THINK IT'S
1:59:38PM HELPFUL FOR ALL OF US TO SEE IT, AND THEN WE CAN FORWARD IT
1:59:40PM TO ANYBODY WHO IS WATCHING WHO HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE
1:59:42PM OTHER PLANS LOOK LIKE.
1:59:44PM THANK YOU.
1:59:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:59:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: CHIEF, YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN 21
1:59:53PM MONTHS.
1:59:54PM YOU HAVE GOT A LOT OF THINGS DONE.
1:59:57PM THERE'S A LOT MORE THINGS THAT HAVE DO GET DONE.
1:59:59PM I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU ACCOLADES.
2:00:01PM I KNOW IT'S TOUGH.
2:00:03PM YOU ARE IN CHARGE.
2:00:04PM YOU ARE A LEADER.
2:00:06PM I WANT TO SAY A LOT OF THINGS YOU HAVE PUT IN PLACE, I DO
2:00:09PM SEE A LOT ARE WORKING.
2:00:10PM YOU ARE TRYING TO GET THE THINGS IN.
2:00:12PM SOME THINGS YOU CAN'T CONTROL.
2:00:14PM BUT I WILL JUST SAY, AGAIN, WE NEED TO HAVE TO HAVE A CUP OF
2:00:22PM COFFEE AND WORK THINGS OUT.
2:00:23PM I THINK IT WILL ALL WORK OUT IN THE END.
2:00:25PM THANK YOU BOTH.
2:00:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVE GOT TO GO TO LUNCH.
2:00:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:00:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU AND CITY COUNCIL
2:00:35PM THAT THERE IS A 1:30 REVIEW HEARING SCHEDULED.
2:00:38PM I WANT TO KNOW IF THOSE PEOPLE ARE PRESENT BECAUSE IN
2:00:40PM COUNCIL IS GOING TO TAKE LUNCH WE SHOULD AT LEAST GIVE THEM
2:00:43PM GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT COUNCIL PLANS.
2:00:45PM ARE THE PEOPLE HERE FOR THE REVIEW HEARING PRESENT?
2:00:49PM >> YES.
2:00:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL COME BACK AT 3?
2:00:54PM DO I RECALL FOR A ROLL CALL ON THAT?
2:00:57PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:00:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:01:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:01:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:01:08PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
2:01:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
2:01:10PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:01:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE WILL COME BACK AT 3:00.
2:01:19PM WE ARE IN RECESS.
2:01:28PM [ RECESS ]
2:01:40PM
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03:04:05PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
03:04:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:04:20PM WE WILL START WITH FILE NUMBER SU-1-23-01-C.
03:04:27PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 94.
03:04:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING.
03:04:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:04:42PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:04:44PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:04:45PM ANY OPPOSED?
03:04:46PM MOTION PASSES.
03:04:47PM GOOD MORNING.
03:04:50PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE
03:04:53PM FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:04:53PM I'M HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 94, WHICH IS SU 1-23-01.
03:04:59PM A PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1023 EAST
03:05:04PM HENRY AVENUE.
03:05:06PM THE PETITIONER FOR THIS APPLICATION -- FOR THIS ITEM IS LORI
03:05:10PM CAIN.
03:05:11PM SHE -- THE PROPERTY OWNER FILED A REQUEST FOR AN ACCESSORY
03:05:15PM DWELLING UNIT FOR THE PROPERTY AT 1023 EAST HENRY AVENUE.
03:05:19PM STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION REQUEST ON JANUARY 18, 2023.
03:05:24PM BASED ON THE APPLICATION FOR THE PROJECT NOT MEETING THE
03:05:30PM SPECIFIC REGULATIONS CONCERNING SPECIAL USES FOR ACCESSORY
03:05:35PM DWELLING UNITS.
03:05:35PM IN PARTICULAR, STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION BECAUSE THE
03:05:38PM PROJECT DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIRED SETBACK REGULATIONS FOR
03:05:42PM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS DISTRICT.
03:05:46PM IN YOUR PACKETS THAT WERE PASSED OUT TO YOU ARE THE RELEVANT
03:05:51PM CODE SECTION.
03:05:52PM 27-61, WE GOVERNS THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THIS
03:05:56PM PROCEEDING.
03:05:57PM 27-132, REGULATIONS GOVERNING INDIVIDUAL SPECIAL USES.
03:06:02PM 27-129, GENERAL STANDARDS.
03:06:04PM AND 27-130, CONDITIONS AND SAFEGUARD RELATED TO SPECIAL USE
03:06:10PM APPLICATIONS.
03:06:11PM ALSO IN YOUR PACKET ARE SAMPLE MOTIONS AND RULES OF
03:06:15PM PROCEDURES FOR CITY COUNCIL TO USE IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THIS
03:06:19PM REVIEW HEARING.
03:06:20PM AS OUTLINED CODE SECTION 27-61-J-3, CITY COUNCIL HAS A DE
03:06:28PM NOVO STANDARD OF REVIEW THAT CITY COUNCIL SHALL NOT BE
03:06:31PM LIMITED IN THAT REVIEW TO THAT INFORMATION, DOCUMENTATION OR
03:06:34PM EVIDENCE UPON WHICH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WAS PACED.
03:06:37PM CITY COUNCIL MAY RECEIVE NEW EVIDENCE.
03:06:39PM STAFF WILL PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION AND THE
03:06:43PM DECISION BY STAFF AND AFTER CITY COUNCIL HEARS ALL THE
03:06:50PM EVIDENCE IN THE MATTER, CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION
03:06:53PM OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND DENY THE REQUEST TO WAIVE
03:06:56PM THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT MAY NOT BE
03:06:59PM LOCATED IN A NONCONFORMING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR STRUCTURE
03:07:03PM MADE CONFORMING AS A RESULT OF A VARIANCE OR CITY COUNCIL
03:07:07PM CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND,
03:07:10PM THEREFORE, ALLOW THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT TO BE TO BE
03:07:19PM WHERE IT IS LOCATED.
03:07:19PM WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF AND I BELIEVE THE
03:07:23PM STAFF MEMBER AND THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO BE SWORN IN.
03:07:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
03:07:26PM ANYBODY GIVING ANY TYPE OF EVIDENCE TO THIS, WOULD YOU
03:07:29PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN.
03:07:31PM [SWEARING IN]
03:07:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE HAVE A MOTION TO FEEL THE EX-PARTE
03:07:47PM COMMUNICATIONS.
03:07:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:07:51PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:07:52PM HI, THERE, WE WILL HEAR FROM STAFF FIRST.
03:07:55PM >> OKAY.
03:07:56PM >>LAURA MARLEY: HI, LAURA MARLEY, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:08:00PM CAN I PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN?
03:08:02PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
03:08:03PM >>LAURA MARLEY: THANK YOU.
03:08:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
03:08:18PM WE ARE THERE.
03:08:19PM WE WERE -- WELL, NOW WE ARE.
03:08:21PM >>LAURA MARLEY: SU-23-01.
03:08:26PM LORI CAIN.
03:08:28PM THE ZONING IS SEMINOLE HEIGHTS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
03:08:32PM RESIDENTIAL SH-RS.
03:08:35PM AND SPECIAL USE REQUEST IS FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
03:08:38PM HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED ON EAST HENRY
03:08:44PM AVENUE LOCATED IN RED.
03:08:45PM THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS IT
03:08:51PM SHALL BE MAXIMUM OF 950 SQUARE FEET.
03:08:54PM IT MAY BE APPROVED WEAPON THE MAIN RESIDENCES ARE
03:09:00PM OWNER-OCCUPIED AND, C, LOCATED WITHIN A CONFORMING ACCESSORY
03:09:04PM STRUCTURE, BUT IT MAY NOT BE LOCATED IN A NONCONFORMING
03:09:08PM ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
03:09:09PM D, THERE CAN ONLY BE TWO PEOPLE RESIDING IN THE ACCESSORY
03:09:15PM STRUCTURE.
03:09:15PM AND E, ANNUALLY, IT IS REVIEWED BY STAFF.
03:09:20PM THIS IS A COPY OF THE SURVEY.
03:09:23PM AS YOU CAN SEE OUTLINED IN YELLOW, THE SETBACK IS AT 2.3.
03:09:27PM THE REQUIREMENT IS 3.
03:09:29PM SO THIS IS THE REASON OF THE DENIAL BY STAFF.
03:09:35PM AND THE PROPOSED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE LOCATED IN AN EXISTING
03:09:40PM ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED
03:09:44PM SETBACKS ARE REQUIRED BY CODE AND THEREFORE THEY ARE
03:09:46PM NONCONFORMING.
03:09:47PM SIDE SETBACK OF THREE FEET IS REQUIRED.
03:09:49PM THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE DOES NOT COMPLY WITH A SIDE
03:09:53PM SETBACK REQUIREMENT OF 2.3 FOR THE WEST SIDE SETBACKS.
03:09:56PM IN ADDITION, THE SITE IS REQUIRED TO HAVE THREE PARKING
03:10:00PM SPACES AND THIS REQUIREMENT CANNOT BE WAIVED THROUGH THE
03:10:02PM SPECIAL USE 1 PROCESS.
03:10:04PM HERE IS JUST A COPY OF THE SITE PLAN FOR YOU GUYS TO LOOK
03:10:08PM AT.
03:10:08PM THAT IS STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
03:10:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
03:10:16PM OKAY.
03:10:16PM MISS CAIN.
03:10:17PM >> YES.
03:10:18PM ARE YOU READY FOR ME?
03:10:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
03:10:23PM >> THE STRUCTURE BUILT IN 1954 WAS IN COMPLIANCE AT THE
03:10:26PM TIME.
03:10:27PM IT IS CURRENTLY A 400-SQUARE-FOOT STRUCTURE.
03:10:31PM WHEN THE ADOPTION OF THE ZONING CAME INTO PLACE, IT MADE IT
03:10:36PM OUT OF COMPLIANCE.
03:10:37PM AND WE ARE RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR CONSIDERATION ALLOWING
03:10:41PM THIS TO BE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING.
03:10:43PM THE DRIVEWAY IS SUFFICIENT TO PARK THREE CARS IN IT WITHOUT
03:10:48PM ANY PROBLEMS.
03:10:48PM SO WE WON'T BE TAKING UP SPACE ON THE ROADWAY.
03:10:51PM AND WE JUST ASK FOR SOME CONSIDERATION FOR ALLOWING THIS.
03:10:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: CAN WE HAVE THAT SITE PLAN BACK UP ON OUR
03:10:58PM MONITORS, PLEASE THANK YOU.
03:11:11PM THANK YOU.
03:11:12PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PETITIONER?
03:11:18PM IS THIS RIGHT NOW A GARAGE?
03:11:20PM OR IS IT A MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF LIVING
03:11:25PM AREA.
03:11:26PM >> MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE WITH ANOTHER TYPE OF LIVING AREA.
03:11:30PM IT HAS A KITCHEN IN IT.
03:11:32PM WE ARE TRYING TO PUT IN A 20-INCH STOVE, MICROWAVE, THAT
03:11:37PM TYPE OF THING AND IT HAS A LIVING AREA, AND A BATHROOM.
03:11:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:11:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO THEN YOU HAVE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING
03:11:49PM FOR RENT OR WHAT IS IT FOR?
03:11:51PM >> YES, FOR RENT.
03:11:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE AS PART OF THAT AREA -- SOME
03:12:01PM PART OF THAT AREA THAT IS ALLOWABLE -- AND ALLOWED IN.
03:12:05PM >> I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THE OTHER AREAS.
03:12:07PM WE HAVE ONLY BEEN FOCUSING ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
03:12:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. COTTON.
03:12:14PM >>ERIC COTTON: SORRY, I WAS NOT SWORN OR EXPECTED TO SPEAK.
03:12:19PM MY ITEMS DON'T HAVE TO BE SWORN SO I APOLOGIZE.
03:12:23PM [SWEARING IN]
03:12:28PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, MA'AM.
03:12:29PM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ARE ALLOWED AS SPECIAL USE 1.
03:12:34PM THE BASIS FOR THE APPLICANT BEING HERE BECAUSE THE ACCESSORY
03:12:38PM STRUCTURE ITSELF DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE
03:12:41PM REQUIRED SETBACKS.
03:12:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME GO A LITTLE FURTHER.
03:12:45PM IT WAS BUILT IN THE '50s.
03:12:47PM >> YES, SIR.
03:12:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE THE RULE CAME IN.
03:12:50PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
03:12:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOLDING THIS ONE BACK IS GOT TO BE THREE
03:12:54PM FEET AND 2.3 INCHES.
03:12:56PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
03:12:57PM WE ARE 9 INCHES SHORT.
03:13:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY PROBLEM.
03:13:01PM I COULDN'T PLAY CENTER.
03:13:03PM I HAD TO PLAY GUARD.
03:13:05PM NOT TALL ENOUGH -- THE SIZE OF THE FENCE.
03:13:09PM SERIOUS SIDE IF THIS GOES THROUGH, YOU KNOW THAT YOUR TAX
03:13:13PM ALSO GO UP.
03:13:13PM IT IS NO LONGER JUST A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
03:13:16PM IT IS A -- IT IS A PROPERTY AREA AND IT WILL GO UP.
03:13:20PM >> YES, SIR.
03:13:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM LETTING YOU KNOW THAT.
03:13:22PM JUST IN CASE YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF IT.
03:13:24PM THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:13:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
03:13:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE TO CLOSE.
03:13:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO
03:13:36PM SPEAK TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 94, FILE NUMBER SU 1-23-01-C?
03:13:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CLOSE.
03:13:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:13:58PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:13:59PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:14:01PM ANY OPPOSED?
03:14:03PM MOTION CARRIES.
03:14:05PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:14:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP FIRST.
03:14:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:14:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S
03:14:14PM DENIAL OF SU 1-23-01 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED 1023 EAST
03:14:21PM HENRY AVENUE BECAUSE THE SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR SPECIFIC
03:14:24PM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS IN 27-122 AND THE GENERAL STANDARDS
03:14:29PM FOR THE SPECIAL USE PERMITS OUTLINED IN 27-129 SHALL BE
03:14:34PM WAIVED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
03:14:35PM THE STRUCTURE WAS BUILT BEFORE THE CURRENT SETBACKS HAND
03:14:39PM BEEN USED AS AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT PRIOR.
03:14:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
03:14:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:14:45PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:14:46PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:14:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DISCUSSION, IF I MAY.
03:14:50PM I WILL SUPPORT IT FOR THE SAME LIKE REASON AND THIS IS
03:14:54PM UNIQUE AND DIFFERENT.
03:14:55PM I DON'T WANT TO BE A STATUTE THAT ANYBODY IN COMPANY CAN DO
03:14:59PM WHAT THEY WANT.
03:15:00PM THIS WAS ALLOWED IN THAT AREA.
03:15:02PM IT WAS BUILT BEFORE THE LAW CAME EFFECT AND A PENALTY ON
03:15:06PM ANYONE IF YOU ARE GOING TO TEAR SOMETHING OUT THAT WAS
03:15:09PM ALLOWED THEN AND CODE CHANGE MADE IT A NONCONFORMING USE
03:15:14PM BUILDING AND VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
03:15:15PM DOES NOT MEAN I WILL VOTE IN FAVOR OF ANYONE AFTER THIS.
03:15:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
03:15:22PM ROLL CALL.
03:15:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
03:15:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:15:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:15:25PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
03:15:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:15:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:15:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES.
03:15:29PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
03:15:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
03:15:32PM >> THANK YOU.
03:15:33PM GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15, FILE NUMBER CM 22-74930.
03:15:48PM >>VIK BHIDE: AFTERNOON CHAIR, COUNCIL.
03:15:50PM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO DISCUSS ITEM
03:15:54PM NUMBER 10.
03:15:55PM THIS IS A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILWOMAN
03:16:01PM HURTAK REGARDING THE PARKING SITUATION ON DEKLE AVENUE IN
03:16:07PM SOUTH TAMPA IN THE VICINITY OF HOW BARRED AVENUE.
03:16:10PM A MEMO TO THAT EFFECT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
03:16:15PM JUST HAD SOME HIGHLIGHTS.
03:16:18PM THIS MATTER WAS INITIATED LAST MAY.
03:16:22PM WE HAVE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SEVERAL TIMES SINCE.
03:16:25PM WE HAVE MADE INCREMENTAL PROGRESS IN TRYING TO MANAGE THE
03:16:30PM PARKING SITUATION.
03:16:31PM OF COURSE, THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE PARKING CONCERN IS,
03:16:36PM ONE, A MORE ACTIVE COMMERCIAL STREET, SPECIFIC BUSINESSES.
03:16:42PM BUT ALSO, GENERALLY ARE A HISTORY OF LIMITED PARKING BECAUSE
03:16:48PM A LOT OF THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS LIKE DESOTO AND DEKLE
03:16:54PM DO NOT HAVE ON-SITE PARKING.
03:16:59PM SO AS WE GROW, WE ARE SEEING THESE KIND OF ISSUES ALONG
03:17:03PM COMMERCIAL STREETS.
03:17:04PM WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS OVER TIME DEDICATED AN ENFORCEMENT
03:17:10PM OFFICER TO BE THERE AROUND THE WORST PERIOD AND THAT IS
03:17:13PM AROUND LUNCHTIME.
03:17:15PM SO BETWEEN 11 AND 2:00 LAST MAY 210 CITATIONS AND OVER 100
03:17:27PM WARNINGS.
03:17:27PM WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVE THERE.
03:17:28PM WE HAVE A PARKING ENFORCEMENT STAFF THERE.
03:17:31PM WE HAVE ADDED 12 15-MINUTE PARKING SPACES TO FACILITATE
03:17:36PM TURNOVER SO THE PARKING ISSUE AND CIRCULATION DOES NOT
03:17:39PM HAPPEN.
03:17:40PM WE HAVE CREATED AN ADA PARKING SPACE COORDINATED WITH POLIC
03:17:45PM IN CODE AND ALSO UPGRADED OR UPDATED SOME SIGNAGE IN THE
03:17:50PM AREA.
03:17:50PM WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:17:52PM WE HAVE MET WITH THEM AS EARLY AS FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
03:17:56PM AND WE ARE INITIATING A PARKING PILOT IN THE AREA AS WELL AT
03:18:02PM THE REQUEST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS IS FOR PARKING ON
03:18:05PM ONE SIDE OF THE STREET TO ENSURE, ONE, THAT EMERGENCY
03:18:11PM VEHICLES CAN PASS SAFELY, BUT WILL ALSO GATHER OTHER DATA
03:18:17PM LIKE HOW ARE WE ABLE TO -- IF WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE
03:18:20PM PARKING NEEDS ON OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
03:18:24PM WERE WE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE OTHER MODES OF TRAVEL AS WELL,
03:18:28PM AND WHAT IMPACT IT HAD ON TRAFFIC FLOW AND SAFETY.
03:18:32PM ALL OF THAT INFORMATION FROM THE PILOT, WHICH WILL BE A 61
03:18:37PM PILOT WILL GO TOWARD OUR PARKING PLANNING EFFORT.
03:18:41PM CONSULTANT CONTRACT OF WHICH COUNCIL APPROVED A FEW MONTHS
03:18:46PM BACK AND THAT WE INITIATED.
03:18:47PM SO ALL THAT TO SAY WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON A DIFFICULT
03:18:53PM SITUATION AND WE WILL INCORPORATE LESSONS LEARNED INTO
03:18:56PM BROADER PLANNING EFFORTS THAT APPLY CITY WIDE.
03:18:59PM I AM HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
03:19:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:19:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANKS VIK AND YOUR TEAM AND MY COLLEAGUES
03:19:09PM FOR HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
03:19:10PM JUST ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO IN BETWEEN THE TIME I WAS ELECTED
03:19:14PM AND STARTED, I WENT TO A MEETING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO
03:19:17PM TALK ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
03:19:18PM AND IAN THAT WAS HARRY COHEN'S AIDE AT THE TIME HANDED OFF
03:19:23PM THE FILES TO ME AND A FEW MONTHS LATER VIK AND I MET WITH
03:19:27PM THEM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS AT LEAST
03:19:30PM MORE THAN FOUR YEARS AND GOOD TO HEAR SOME PROGRESS HAS BEEN
03:19:34PM MADE ON IT BECAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN VERY FRUSTRATED
03:19:38PM WITH IT.
03:19:38PM I THINK THE NEXT TOPIC OR ONE OF THE UPCOMING TOPICS, THE
03:19:43PM NATURE OF ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS CHANGED AND THIS COMPLETELY
03:19:47PM CHANGED THE NATURE WHO PARKED THERE, FOR HOW LONG AND HOW.
03:19:50PM ANYWAY, THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING ON THIS.
03:19:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:19:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALSO WANT TO ECHO THE THANKS AND I LOVE
03:19:58PM THIS IS BEING USED AS A PILOT FOR THE OVERALL PARKING PLAN.
03:20:04PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OLD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AS A
03:20:09PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN ADVOCATING FOR MANY YEARS.
03:20:12PM JUST THE IDEA OF PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE STREET AND
03:20:17PM SEEING HOW THAT WORKS TO ALLEVIATE SPACE FOR SAFETY VEHICLES
03:20:22PM AND FOR MAKING SURE THAT RESIDENTS DO HAVE A PLACE TO PARK
03:20:26PM BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THEY HAVE SPACE FOR WALKING AND BIKING
03:20:29PM IN SO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE
03:20:33PM SIDEWALK.
03:20:33PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS.
03:20:36PM AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.
03:20:38PM YOU TOLD ME PRIOR AND YOU SHARED HOW LONG THIS PROJECT PILOT
03:20:44PM WILL LAST?
03:20:45PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE THING, A SIX-MONTH PILOT AND WE WILL
03:20:48PM COLLECT DATA THROUGH THAT PILOT.
03:20:50PM AS WE SPEAK, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING AND
03:20:55PM INSTALLING THE SIGNAGE NEEDED AND WORKING WITH THE
03:20:58PM NEIGHBORHOODS TO EASE IT IN.
03:20:59PM THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS WE WILL ISSUE WARNINGS.
03:21:02PM NO CITATIONS.
03:21:03PM BUT ENFORCEMENT AND ITS RESPONSE BY MOTORISTS IS A KEY PART
03:21:09PM OF OUR UNDERSTANDING HOW IT WORKS.
03:21:11PM SO IT WILL BE ENFORCED AS WELL.
03:21:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
03:21:14PM THANK YOU.
03:21:14PM AND I HAVE ONE MORE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION.
03:21:17PM ONCE THIS PILOT IS FINISHED, ABOUT HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT
03:21:22PM WILL BE BEFORE YOU HAVE SOME DATA TO SHARE WITH COUNCIL
03:21:27PM ABOUT HOW IT WENT?
03:21:29PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE WILL NEED ABOUT 30 DAYS TO DIGEST THE DATA
03:21:33PM AND THEN COME UP WITH SOME INSIGHTS; HOWEVER, THE PLANNING
03:21:38PM EFFORT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT LONGER BECAUSE WE ARE PUTTING
03:21:42PM TOGETHER A CITY WIDE PLAN AND THIS WILL BE -- THAT WILL BE
03:21:45PM EXECUTED IN PHASES.
03:21:47PM SO THE FIRST PART OF THAT PLANNING -- PARKING PLANNING
03:21:51PM EFFORT IS -- IS A SERIES OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS OR CHANGES
03:21:56PM TO CHAPTER 15.
03:21:58PM AND, FEBRUARY, IT WILL ALL BE BORNE FROM THE PARKING EFFORTS
03:22:03PM AND WE WILL GET OTHER CHAPTERS THAT ARE -- THAT ARE INVOLVED
03:22:06PM AS WELL.
03:22:06PM 27, 22 AND 25.
03:22:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:22:10PM SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS YOU MAY HAVE SOME DATA TO SHARE
03:22:14PM WITH US AROUND NOVEMBER?
03:22:17PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
03:22:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
03:22:19PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
03:22:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
03:22:21PM VIK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS REPORT.
03:22:24PM NOW YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE FOUR RESTAURANTS IN A
03:22:29PM ONE-AND-A-HALF-BLOCK AREA.
03:22:32PM LA -- EXCUSE ME A RESTAURANT.
03:22:37PM SOMETHING THAT YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.
03:22:39PM THAT PARKING IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE ON ONE SIDE OF THE
03:22:42PM STREET OR THE OTHER.
03:22:43PM I AM JUST WAITING FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO GET OUT AND POINT AT
03:22:46PM EACH OTHER WHICH SIDE OF THE STREET THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE
03:22:48PM PARKING ON.
03:22:49PM THANK YOU, VIK.
03:22:51PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
03:22:52PM AGENDA ITEM 12.
03:22:58PM FILE NUMBER E 2016-8 CHAPTER 21.
03:23:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: I REQUESTED A STAFF REPORT ON THIS.
03:23:12PM BUT I WANT TOP MAKE NOTE THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM AS PART OF A
03:23:17PM RETURNING CITIZENS --
03:23:19PM >> WE ARE ON 11?
03:23:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY, I THOUGHT I HEARD 12, IS IT I?
03:23:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 11.
03:23:27PM FILE NUMBER E 2016-8 CHAPTER 21.
03:23:33PM VIK, HOW ARE YOU DOING.
03:23:37PM >>VIK BHIDE: COUNCIL, ITEM 11 -- SORRY I HEARD 12 AND I
03:23:41PM THOUGHT STAFF WASN'T NECESSARY FOR 11.
03:23:43PM THE ITEM 11 IS THE 25th STORMWATER CIP REPORT.
03:23:51PM OF COURSE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS A FUNCTION OF
03:23:55PM THE ASSESSMENT THAT WAS APPROVED SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
03:23:58PM THE $251 MILLION PROGRAM AND OUTLINES ALL OF OUR PROJECTS
03:24:07PM THAT ARE COMMITTED AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
03:24:09PM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS THE SECOND LAST YEAR OF
03:24:13PM THE -- OF THE ASSESSMENT AND THE PROGRAM.
03:24:16PM AND WE ARE WORKING TOWARD WHAT THE NEXT LEVEL OF NEXT -- OR
03:24:22PM THE FUTURE OF STORMWATER NEEDS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS LOOK
03:24:27PM LIKE.
03:24:27PM AND 20 THAT END, EARLIER THIS YEAR, COUNCIL DID APPROVE OR
03:24:33PM WAS MADE LAST YEAR RATHER $160,000 WORK ORDER FOR A
03:24:38PM CONSULTANT WITH THE GAP ANALYSIS THAT WILL IDENTIFY WHAT
03:24:43PM NEEDS TO BE MODELLED WITHIN THE CITY.
03:24:45PM WHAT MODELING IS UP TO DATE.
03:24:48PM AND THAT WILL BE THE FIRST CUT -- THAT GAP ANALYSIS TO
03:24:54PM INFORM WHAT OUR FUTURE CIP WILL LOOK LIKE.
03:24:58PM WHAT WILL FOLLOW THAT IS ADDITIONAL MODELING THAT IS
03:25:01PM RECOMMENDED IN THAT GAP ANALYSIS ITSELF TO REALLY FINE TUNE
03:25:05PM THE CAPITAL PROGRAM.
03:25:06PM I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT, BECAUSE OVER THE NEXT TWO
03:25:10PM YEARS, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WILL BE WORKING
03:25:12PM TOWARD SO THAT AT THE END OF THIS PROGRAM, WE WILL HAVE A
03:25:15PM NEW CIP.
03:25:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
03:25:20PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:25:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK.
03:25:22PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:25:23PM I KNOW SELF -- WE DID RECEIVE A STORMWATER UPDATE ON A
03:25:27PM SEPARATE PROJECT THIS MORNING IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
03:25:30PM BUT I KNOW A LOT OF WORK AT THE HENDERSON AND DALE MABRY
03:25:34PM AREA, WHICH IS HISTORICALLY AND NOTORIOUS LITERABLE WHEN WE
03:25:38PM HAVE HEAVY RAINS.
03:25:39PM SO I KNOW THAT THERE IS CLOSURES ON THE WEEKEND AT THAT
03:25:43PM INTERSECTION.
03:25:43PM AND I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THERE AND I WATCHED HOW TRAFFIC HAS
03:25:47PM MANEUVERED EVEN WITH THE CLOSURE.
03:25:49PM BUT I -- I HAVEN'T RECEIVED -- KNOCK ON WOOD -- ANY
03:25:55PM COMPLAINTS YET.
03:25:55PM I SEE THAT IS MOVING ALONG WELL, AND IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT
03:26:00PM SESSION.
03:26:00PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
03:26:02PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
03:26:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:26:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO ECHO THE THANKS.
03:26:09PM I LOVE THIS UPDATE.
03:26:10PM IT IS VERY CLEAR, THOROUGH AND THE MAPS MAKE IT EASY TO
03:26:14PM UNDERSTAND ALONG WITH THE CHART.
03:26:15PM I ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TOO LOOK AT THIS.
03:26:18PM IS THIS ON THE STORMWATER WEB SITE AS WELL?
03:26:21PM >>VIK BHIDE: WHY HE, IT IS.
03:26:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT, BECAUSE I LOOK AT IT THROUGH SIRE.
03:26:27PM BUT I RECOMMEND IF THE PUBLIC HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF WHAT WE
03:26:31PM ARE SPENDING THE MONEY ON TO LOOK IT UP.
03:26:32PM AN INCREDIBLY CLEAR REPORT AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATE IT, THANK
03:26:37PM YOU.
03:26:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYTHING ELSE?
03:26:40PM THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE.
03:26:42PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
03:26:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 12, COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU
03:26:47PM WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
03:26:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DIDN'T WANT TO REPORT FOR THIS.
03:26:50PM THINGS SPEAK FOR ITSELF, BUT IT IS PART OF THE RETURNING
03:26:54PM CITIZENS INITIATIVE THAT WE DID.
03:26:56PM IT INCLUDED INCENTIVES FOR CONTRACTORS TO HIRE RETURNING
03:26:59PM CITIZENS, INCENTIVES TO BAN THE BOX AND ALSO A TEST PILOT
03:27:06PM PROGRAM FOR JOB TRAINING, RETRAINING, AND CITIZENSHIP FOR
03:27:13PM RETURNING CITIZENS AND $300,000 FOR APPRENTICESHIP AND
03:27:18PM TRAINING AS THE MEMO SAYS.
03:27:20PM THIS IS LA REALLY, REALLY A GREAT THING.
03:27:24PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE ISSUE GETS OUT THERE AND PEOPLE
03:27:26PM UNDERSTAND IT IS AN ISSUE OF CONCERN FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT,
03:27:30PM STATE GOVERNMENT AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
03:27:32PM PAUSE IT EFFECTS ALL PARTS OF OUR CITY AND ALL OF OUR
03:27:35PM FAMILIES QUITE FRANKLY.
03:27:37PM JUST IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS OF RETURNING CITIZENS, WE
03:27:41PM HAVE TO DO A MULTIFAMILY BETTER JOB ON THIS ISSUE.
03:27:45PM A LOT OF GROUPS, FLORIDA RIGHTS, ABE BROWN MINISTRIES,
03:27:49PM JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER FEDERATION.
03:27:51PM AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
03:27:53PM NOTING THAT.
03:27:54PM THANK YOU, SIR.
03:27:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
03:27:56PM ANYBODY ELSE?
03:27:58PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15, FILE NUMBER CM 22-74931.
03:28:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST SET THIS UP?
03:28:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:28:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS ONE IS RELATED TO THE DEKLE AVENUE ONE.
03:28:16PM THE ISSUE IS THAT WHAT WAS A LITTLE CAFE, SUDDENLY BECAME A
03:28:27PM HEAVILY TRAFFICKED DELIVERY LOCATION
03:28:30PM AND SO THE QUESTION IS, NOW THAT POST COVID AND WITH UBER
03:28:36PM EATS ANNUAL THESE SERVICES, THERE WERE LOCATIONS THAT HAD
03:28:40PM LOTS OF THAT GO ON A TEMPORARY WAY.
03:28:44PM THE QUESTION IS, SHOULD WE HAVE SPECIAL ZONING OR PERMITTING
03:28:48PM FOR THOSE SITUATIONS BECAUSE THEY WILL CONTINUE TO EFFECT
03:28:51PM NEIGHBORHOODS?
03:28:53PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:28:56PM PARKING FOR RESTAURANTS IS GENERALLY SECTION 23.7 OF THE
03:29:03PM TAMPA ZONING CODE.
03:29:04PM FULL SERVICE, FOUR SPACES.
03:29:06PM PLACED ON OCCUPANCY, 2.5 SPACES PER OCCUPANCY.
03:29:11PM DIVIDED BY FOUR WILL SHOW YOU HOW MANY PARKING SPACES YOU
03:29:16PM NEED.
03:29:16PM FOR ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE STRICTLY TAKEOUTS AND
03:29:20PM RESTAURANTS TO GO.
03:29:21PM YOU SEE SOME OF THEM START TO POP UP.
03:29:22PM THEY ARE LIKE KITCHENS.
03:29:26PM THEY ARE CONSIDERED RETAIL AND FOUR PER THOUSAND LIKE A
03:29:31PM TYPICAL RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT TEN SEATS OR FEWER.
03:29:33PM FOR THIS SPECIFIC INSTANCE THAT CAME UP WITH THE PROPERTY --
03:29:38PM THE RESTAURANT ON DEKLE AND HOWARD, THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY
03:29:42PM A RESTAURANT.
03:29:43PM THEY MORPHED INTO DURING COVID, THEY MORPHED INTO PROVIDING
03:29:48PM A LOT OF TO-GO SERVICE WHICH -- YOU WILL SEE THAT IN A LOT
03:29:51PM OF RESTAURANTS FROM CHILI'S TO McDONALD'S, THEY HAVE SPECIAL
03:29:54PM PLACES YOU CAN GO UP AND GET FOOD FROM.
03:29:56PM IT WAS GENERALLY ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
03:29:59PM THE CODE -- SORT OF ADDRESSES THOSE.
03:30:05PM FOR THE MOST PART, WHERE THERE IS A -- A TYPE URBANIZED FEEL
03:30:10PM FOR A COMMUNITY SUCH AS AT HOWARD AND DEKLE, PARKING IS
03:30:14PM ALREADY AT A PREMIUM.
03:30:16PM SO I THINK MOBILITY IS TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC
03:30:22PM ISSUE.
03:30:22PM THE CODE, AS A WHOLE, FROM MY PROFESSIONAL VIEWPOINT AT THIS
03:30:27PM POINT, WHAT WE DID TO THE CODE FOR EXISTING CONDITIONS WILL
03:30:31PM NOT BE AFFECTING THOSE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
03:30:33PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A WAY TO ADDRESS EXISTING
03:30:41PM RESTAURANTS THAT MORE OF INTO SOMETHING OTHER BECAUSE THEIR
03:30:44PM PRIMARY THING IS STILL FOOD SERVICE.
03:30:45PM THEY STILL HAVE SEATING.
03:30:47PM THEY JUST ADDED THAT COMPONENT OF PICK-UP AND TO-GO.
03:30:51PM A LOT OF TIMES YOU WILL SEE -- AT RESTAURANTS ITSELF YOU
03:30:54PM WILL SEE SPECIFIC PLACES FOR UBER EAT AND DOOR DASH.
03:30:57PM AND GENERALLY THEY RUN OUT AND GET YOU YOUR FOOD.
03:31:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:31:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT
03:31:05PM OTHER CITIES AND I WONDER -- FORGIVE THIS SPECIFIC EXAMPLE
03:31:10PM NEXT TO DEKLE, BUT IF -- IF -- DO ANY OTHER CITIES ADDRESS
03:31:15PM THE ISSUE OF RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE A SMALL FOOTPRINT THAT
03:31:19PM ARE HEAVILY TRAFFICKED FOR DELIVERY?
03:31:21PM I MEAN, BIGGER RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF UBER
03:31:27PM EATS, BUT SOME LITTLE PLACES THAT ARE REALLY FOR TAKE-OUT
03:31:33PM ONLY AND AT THE LEVY AND THEY HAVE HUNDREDS OF CAR AS DAY.
03:31:36PM IS THERE NOT ANY KIND OF -- AS IF IT DOESN'T APPLY TO
03:31:40PM EXISTING SPACES MAY BE FIND.
03:31:46PM BUT FUTURE USES.
03:31:48PM SOMETHING WE CAN TO DO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS IN THAT CASE
03:31:51PM AND REQUIRE SPECIAL PARKING OR SOMETHING.
03:31:56PM >>ERIC COTTON: NEW CONSTRUCTION HAVE TO COMPLY WITH -- IF IT
03:31:59PM IS STRICTLY A TAKE-OUT RESTAURANT, FOUR PER THOUSAND.
03:32:04PM 1,000-SQUARE-FOOT KITCHEN AND COOKING UP FOOD TO GO --
03:32:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: I MEAN A SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCE.
03:32:13PM THAT IS THE OLD MODEL OF PEOPLE COME UNTIL AND SITTING DOWN
03:32:16PM AND MAYBE THERE IS SOME DELIVERY, BUT IN A CASE 2,000 SQUARE
03:32:24PM FOOT AND CARS PICKING UP AND TAKING IT OUT.
03:32:26PM IS THERE NO SPECIAL RULES THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE THAT WE
03:32:31PM SHOULD ADOPT?
03:32:33PM >>ERIC COTTON: NOT THAT WE HAVE UNCOVERED AT THIS POINT.
03:32:36PM AGAIN, IF YOU WERE STRICTLY TO GO TYPE OF RESTAURANT WE
03:32:41PM APPLY THE RETAIL PARKING STANDARDS.
03:32:43PM IF YOU ARE A TARGET OR WANT FOUR PER THOUSAND.
03:32:47PM A RESTAURANT THAT DOES STRICTLY TAKEOUT WHERE UBER EATS
03:32:51PM PULLS THE UP FOR THE FOOD.
03:32:54PM AND WE TREAT IT AS A RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT.
03:32:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: DOESN'T SEEM TO WORK IS THE POINT.
03:33:00PM I DON'T THINK IT IS PECULIAR THIS LOCATION.
03:33:02PM AND SO IS THERE SOME OTHER.
03:33:04PM A HUGE HIGHER THAN EVERYBODY EXPECTED UNTIL THE LAST TWO
03:33:09PM YEARS VOLUME OF VEHICLES GOING INTO SOME OF THESE PLACES.
03:33:11PM SO HOW DO WE PROTECT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE FUTURE BY PUTTING
03:33:15PM SOME ADDITIONAL RULES DOWN FOR THAT?
03:33:18PM IT DOESN'T MATCH THE OLD MODELS.
03:33:20PM DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY SQUARE FEET AND DOESN'T MATTER HOW
03:33:23PM MANY SEATS THEY HAVE WHICH IS THE OLD MODEL.
03:33:25PM THE NEW MODEL IS HOW MANY CAR AS DAY ARE VISITING IT OR
03:33:29PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
03:33:30PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WANT TO ADD TO THAT.
03:33:32PM ABBYE FEELEY COUPLE OF THINGS.
03:33:37PM ONE IS, ONCE REQUIRED PARKING IS PROVIDED, WE DON'T REGULATE
03:33:44PM THAT.
03:33:44PM FOR INSTANCE ON HOWARD AVENUE WHEN YOU GO TO FLOWER AND
03:33:47PM WATER.
03:33:47PM AND AT 5:00, THEY BECOME COMPLETELY VALET, AND I CAN'T PARK
03:33:52PM THERE UNLESS I WANT TO PAY FOR THEIR VALET, THOSE SPACES ARE
03:33:56PM -- ONCE YOU MEET YOUR PROVIDED PARKING WE DON'T SAY WHETHER
03:34:02PM IT HAS TO BE UBER EATS OR OPEN OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
03:34:05PM THAT BECOMES THE BUSINESS OPERATOR'S OPTION IN RELATION TO
03:34:09PM THOSE SPACES.
03:34:12PM WE ARE HAPPY TO LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY OF ORLANDO.
03:34:16PM SOME COUNTY OTHER -- CITY OF ST. PETE HAVE THINGS FOR A UBER
03:34:21PM EATS, PREDOMINANTLY A TAKEOUT TYPE OF RESTAURANT.
03:34:24PM WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS THAT WILL BE MORE SPACES.
03:34:26PM AND THEN NOT NECESSARILY LESS.
03:34:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I AM SAYING -- MAYBE I CAN JUST -- AT
03:34:33PM THE SAME TIME I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS.
03:34:35PM THE QUESTION IS, THIS IS A NEW SITUATION THAT ONLY DEVELOPED
03:34:38PM IN THE LAST TWO TO THREE YEARS WHERE THERE IS HEAVIER THAN
03:34:43PM EVER EXPECTED TAKEOUT AND LOCATIONS PRIMARILY TAKEOUT ONLY
03:34:50PM AND A DIFFERENT MODEL LOOKING AT HOW MANY SPACES YOU NEED.
03:34:54PM ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS IN THIS ONE EXAMPLE WAS 15-MINUTE
03:34:57PM PARKING SO IT TURNS OVER.
03:34:59PM I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL MAYBE AUGUST AND ASK
03:35:04PM STAFF TO -- TO AUGUST AND ASK STAFF TO HOOK AT SOME NEW
03:35:10PM SOLUTION MAYBE THAT OTHER CITIES USE AND NEW SOLUTIONS THAT
03:35:14PM WE WOULD PROPOSE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE NICHE.
03:35:20PM >> SECOND.
03:35:21PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE ARE COMING BACK JUNE 23 FOR A WORKSHOP.
03:35:24PM OKAY TO PUT IT ON THAT DAY SO WE DON'T HAVE MULTIPLE --
03:35:29PM >>ERIC COTTON: GROWTH MANAGEMENT WORKSHOP WE HAVE IN JUNE.
03:35:31PM >>BILL CARSON: OKAY.
03:35:33PM IF YOU ARE READY.
03:35:34PM I WAS TRYING TO GIVE YOU MORE TIME.
03:35:36PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT IS FINE AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD
03:35:38PM LIKE TO MENTION IN CLOSING, WHEN WE PERMIT A COFFEE SHOP.
03:35:41PM STARBUCKS DIDN'T GET A SPECIAL QUEUE LINE FOR THEIR IMPACT
03:35:46PM IT SHALL EVERY COFFEE SHOP GETS TREATED THE SAME.
03:35:49PM NO DIFFERENT STANDARDS FOR THOSE THAT HAVE THAT HIGH
03:35:52PM INTENSITY OF USE.
03:35:53PM WE WILL PUT OUR HEADS TOGETHER.
03:35:56PM WE WILL LOOK AT THAT AND BRING YOU THE INFORMATION THAT IS
03:35:58PM OUT THERE IN RELATION TO THAT.
03:35:59PM AND WE WILL SEE.
03:36:00PM THE OTHER I THINK THAT ERIC MENTIONED, WE EXPECT GO BACK AND
03:36:04PM RETROFIT THAT STANDARD ON EXISTING BUSINESSES.
03:36:06PM IF IT IS REALLY AN ENFORCEMENT TYPE OF ITEM, WE WILL HAVE TO
03:36:10PM HOOK AT THAT MORE FROM THAT ENFORCEMENT SIDE.
03:36:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK ANOTHER QUESTION IS, IS IT A
03:36:15PM DIFFERENT CATEGORY?
03:36:16PM LIKE OTHER CITIES ADDRESS IT AS A DIFFERENT COO CATEGORY.
03:36:19PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: UNDERSTOOD.
03:36:20PM WE WILL BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT.
03:36:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE TO CONTINUE -- WHAT DID YOU SAY.
03:36:26PM >>ERIC COTTON: JUNE 22 IS THAT --
03:36:29PM >>CLERK: JUNE 22, BUT WE DON'T --
03:36:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU PLANNING ON HAVING MORE SET?
03:36:34PM DID YOU WANT TO SEE THE REST OF THE CALENDAR?
03:36:41PM >>CLERK: 28th WE HAVE A LONG --
03:36:45PM >>ERIC COTTON: SEPTEMBER 28?
03:36:48PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT ON ITEM 17.
03:36:51PM SO -- I KNOW, IN RELATION TO ITEM 17, WE WANT TO TARGET
03:36:57PM COMING BACK ON JUNE 22 FOR THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE.
03:37:00PM BECAUSE THAT ROLLS INTO THE JULY TEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE.
03:37:07PM IF WE ARE MAKING CHANGES, WE WILL CAPTURE WHAT WILL HAPPEN
03:37:11PM IN JULY VERSUS IF WE TALK ABOUT IT IN SEPTEMBER AND HAVE TO
03:37:15PM GO WITH THE JANUARY CYCLE.
03:37:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO CONDITION FILE
03:37:20PM NUMBER CM 22-74931.
03:37:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
03:37:35PM ALL IN FAVOR.
03:37:36PM OPPOSED?
03:37:37PM MOTION CARRIES.
03:37:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 16, FILE NUMBER CM
03:37:51PM 23-79991.
03:37:52PM MISS VAN LOAN.
03:37:57PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS,
03:38:01PM MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL ESTATE.
03:38:04PM I AM HERE IS ON ITEM 16.
03:38:06PM SINCE LAST SUMMER, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE LARGER
03:38:11PM HOUSING STRATEGIES FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:38:12PM ONE OF THOSE STRATEGIES THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING LIST.
03:38:15PM A LIST MADE UP OF SURPLUS PROPERTIES TO BE POTENTIALLY
03:38:19PM DESIGNATED AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROPERTIES AT YOUR CRA
03:38:24PM MEETING IN JANUARY, MR. DRUMGO DID GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF
03:38:29PM THE LIST AND THE PROCESS, AND NOW I'M HERE TODAY TO
03:38:33PM OFFICIALLY BRING THIS TO YOU AS CITY COUNCIL AND INITIATE
03:38:36PM THAT PROCESS FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH DISCUSSION AND APPROVAL
03:38:38PM SO WE CAN GET THAT LIST ADOPTED IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
03:38:42PM SO WITH THAT, IF WE CAN HAVE THE POWERPOINT UP.
03:38:46PM THANK YOU.
03:38:46PM SO WE ARE REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE, EVERY MUNICIPALITY IN
03:38:53PM THE STATE OF FLORIDA IS REQUIRED EVERY THREE YEARS TO REVIEW
03:38:56PM OUR PROPERTY LIST OF PROPERTIES WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION,
03:39:00PM WITHIN OUR CITY BOUNDARIES THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR
03:39:04PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING USE.
03:39:05PM WHEN WE DO THAT, I WANT TO MAKE IS CLEAR.
03:39:07PM I KNOW MR. DRUMGO REPORTED THIS.
03:39:10PM BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE ARE NOT PROHIBITED FROM USING
03:39:14PM ANY PROPERTIES NOT ON THIS LIST FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
03:39:17PM THIS LIST IS A MINIMUM OF EVERY THREE YEARS.
03:39:19PM IF WE ACQUIRE NEW PROPERTIES DURING THAT TIME, IF WE RECEIVE
03:39:23PM MORE PROPERTIES FROM THE COUNTY DURING THAT TIME AND LET'S
03:39:27PM SAY WE ARE WORKING AND LAND ASSEMBLAGE AND THAT
03:39:31PM PROJECT IS NOT MOVING FORWARD.
03:39:32PM ANY OF THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE USED FOR
03:39:35PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT ON THE LIST.
03:39:38PM IT IS NOT EXCLUSIVE.
03:39:43PM ONCE THE PROPERTIES ARE ON THE LIST, FOUR THINGS THAT CAN
03:39:46PM HAPPEN TO THE PROPERTY.
03:39:47PM ONE, WE CAN SELL THEM BUT WE HAVE TO USE THE PROCEEDS --
03:39:50PM THERE ARE FOUR -- GIVE ME A SECOND.
03:39:52PM WE HAVE TO USE THE PROCEEDS FOR OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING
03:39:55PM EITHER TO BUY ADDITIONAL PROPERTY OR TO PUT TOWARD FUNDING
03:39:58PM OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS THROUGH HCV OR THE CRAs.
03:40:04PM SECOND, OFFER THEM FOR SALE WITH A RESTRICTION TO BECOME
03:40:07PM AFFORDABLE PERMANENT HOUSING.
03:40:09PM WE CAN DONATE THEM TO A NONPROFIT WHO WILL ENTER INTO A
03:40:13PM DEVELOPMENT, DEVELOP THEM FOR PERMANENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
03:40:16PM AND LASTLY, WE OURSELVES THROUGH THE HDC AND THROUGH
03:40:21PM THE CRAs CAN DEVELOP THE PROPERTIES FOR PERMANENT AFFORDABLE
03:40:25PM HOUSING.
03:40:29PM ONCE THEY ARE ON THE LIST THEY ARE DEDICATED FOR BENEFITING
03:40:32PM AND AFFORDING THE GOALS OF PROVIDING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
03:40:36PM FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:40:37PM YOU SAW THIS GRAPHIC WITH MR. DRUMGO'S PRESENTATION.
03:40:43PM WE HAVE WITHIN REAL ESTATE ABOUT 4,000 RECORDS OF ALL THE
03:40:47PM PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE RECORDED.
03:40:50PM THIS CAN BE EASEMENTS.
03:40:52PM IT IS OUR ALLEYWAYS.
03:40:54PM IT IS OUR PARKING LOT.
03:40:55PM WE TOOK THAT DATABASE OF 4,000 RECORDS AND STARTED TO VET
03:40:59PM THAT SO WE ELIMINATED THE PROPERTIES THAT WOULD, AGAIN, NOT
03:41:04PM BE APPROPRIATE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING USE.
03:41:06PM SO WE GOT RED OF ALL OF OUR PARKING LOTS, ALL OF OUR
03:41:10PM RIGHT-OF-WAYS, ALL OF OUR ALLEYS.
03:41:11PM WE GOT RID OF ALL OF THE EASEMENTS, DRAINAGE EASEMENTS.
03:41:16PM OUR STORAGE POND.
03:41:17PM WE ALSO HAVE PROPERTY -- ONE OF THE EXAMPLES IS EAST TAMPA
03:41:21PM WHERE WE HAVE BEEN DOING A LAND ASSEMBLAGE ON 22nd STREET
03:41:24PM TAKEN SEVERAL YEARS.
03:41:26PM THOSE PROPERTIES, AS WE ACQUIRE THEM, ARE SETTING IN THE
03:41:30PM CITY'S INVENTORY AND WE WANT TO OBSERVE THEM FOR THE ENTIRE
03:41:33PM LAND ASSEMBLAGE.
03:41:35PM WE ARE NOT PUTTING THESE PROPERTIES ON THAT LIST IF THERE IS
03:41:38PM A BIGGER PICTURE FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE PLANNING.
03:41:41PM WE ALSO HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE UNECONOMIC REMAINDERS.
03:41:46PM TOO SMALL TO PUT A DEVELOPMENT FOR HOUSING ON THOSE.
03:41:49PM LASTLY, WE HAVE PROPERTIES THAT EITHER WE LEASE THAT ARE IN
03:41:53PM OUR INVENTORY AND WE OWN AND LEASE TO OTHERS.
03:41:56PM AND WE HAVE BUILDINGS.
03:41:57PM WE HAVE PARK PROPERTIES.
03:41:59PM WE HAVE SMALL LITTLE KIOSKS.
03:42:01PM SO THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ALSO NOT ON THAT LIST.
03:42:05PM WHEN WE GOT THROUGH DOING ALL OF THAT VETTING, WE GOT DOWN
03:42:09PM TO A LIST OF 101 PROPERTIES.
03:42:11PM WE THEN TURNED THAT LIST OVER TO OUR ADMINISTRATORS.
03:42:14PM AND WITH THAT LIST, WE GOT IT DOWN TO THE 32 PROPERTIES THAT
03:42:19PM MR. DRUMGO PRESENTED TO YOU IT AND YOU HAVE THAT LIST
03:42:22PM ATTACHED TO THE POWERPOINT.
03:42:24PM THE REASON IT WENT FROM 101 TO 22 PROPERTIES IS THAT WE DO
03:42:28PM HAVE 17 PROPERTIES THAT WILL YOU COMING OUT THIS SPRING AS
03:42:33PM PART OF OUR HOUSING DIVISION'S INFILL THREE.
03:42:36PM SO THOSE PROPERTIES ARE NOT ON THERE AS THEY WILL BE
03:42:40PM UTILIZED PROBABLY BEFORE THIS GETS 'ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
03:42:43PM 347 PROPERTIES THAT MADE MORE SENSE OF PROPERTIES IN BETWEEN
03:42:52PM THAT WILL BE MORE BENEFICIAL.
03:42:54PM IF WE WAITED TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES AND MAKE IT A
03:42:58PM LARGER TRACT, MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK.
03:43:02PM WE HAVE PROPERTIES THAT WERE OVERLY CHALLENGED.
03:43:05PM EXCESSIVE FLOODING.
03:43:06PM IT WILL TAKE UTILITIES TO BE BROUGHT IN SEVERAL BLOCKS.
03:43:10PM NOT JUST ON THE STREET BUT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WITH THOSE
03:43:14PM PROPERTIES.
03:43:14PM WITH THAT, WE HAVE 32 PROPERTIES THAT WERE THEN PROPOSED TO
03:43:19PM BRING FORWARD TO YOU TO INCLUDE ON THIS LIST.
03:43:22PM ONCE WE HAVE THIS LIST AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND GO
03:43:33PM THROUGH THIS DIALOGUE, THE NEXT STEP IS TO FINALIZE THE LIST
03:43:37PM AND BRING IT BEFORE A PUBLIC HEARING OF CITY COUNCIL AND
03:43:40PM ADOPT THAT LIST BY RESOLUTION AND LIKE A DEDICATED PARKS
03:43:44PM LIST, THIS LIST WILL BE ATTACHED AS AN EXHIBIT TO THE
03:43:47PM RESOLUTION SO THOSE PROPERTIES ARE ON THERE AND CODIFIED
03:43:51PM THAT WAY.
03:43:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SORRY, WERE YOU FINISHED?
03:43:56PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I AM ALL DONE.
03:43:57PM I KNOW THAT ALIS WENT THROUGH THE MAP WE PUT TOGETHER.
03:44:02PM THE INTERACTIVE MAP FOR THE PUBLIC.
03:44:04PM I HAVE THAT AVAILABLE IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
03:44:08PM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
03:44:11PM AND I AM FOR COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WHEN YOU WERE GOING
03:44:14PM THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION WITH MR. DRUMGO, YOU ASKED ABOUT HOW
03:44:17PM MANY UNITS COULD BE ON THESE 22 PROPERTIES.
03:44:21PM WITHOUT ACTUALLY LAYING OUT A SITE PLAN FOR ALL 32, ESTIMATE
03:44:25PM ABOUT 100 UNITS.
03:44:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
03:44:28PM LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
03:44:29PM I KNOW THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THESE
03:44:32PM PROPERTIES.
03:44:32PM AND I HAVE BROUGHT UP FOR DISCUSSION, WHICH WAS CONTINUED
03:44:37PM TODAY UNTIL APRIL 20 TO ADDRESSING FOOD DESERTS IN THE CITY
03:44:42PM OF TAMPA.
03:44:42PM MAJORITY OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE IN DISTRICT 5 WHERE WE SEE
03:44:45PM THE FOOD DESERTS THERE MORE THAN REST OF THE PARTS OF THE
03:44:49PM CITY.
03:44:49PM WOULD BE ALLOWABLE TO LOOK AT -- I KNOW MEACHAM FARMS OVER
03:44:55PM HERE BY THE CHURCH IN THE ENCORE AREA.
03:44:59PM BUT WILL SOMEBODY BE ALLOWED OR A NONPROFIT TO PUT A
03:45:06PM COMMUNITY GARDEN THERE -- YOU KNOW, FOR GROWING FOOD AND
03:45:09PM WHAT NOT TO GIVE AND SELL TO THE COMMUNITY OR NO?
03:45:13PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: ONCE YOU PUT THE PROPERTIES ON THE LIST
03:45:16PM AND YOU ADOPT THE LIST, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED
03:45:20PM FOR THE OTHER TYPE OF USES.
03:45:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STRICTLY HAS TO GO FOR HOUSING.
03:45:25PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: YES, SIR.
03:45:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AVERAGE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR A
03:45:29PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
03:45:29PM 5,000 SQUARE FEET?
03:45:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A LOT OR A HOUSE.
03:45:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TYPICAL LOT SIZE.
03:45:38PM NO, LIKE FOR YOUR PROPERTY.
03:45:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: LOT HOUSE OR A HOUSE.
03:45:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
03:45:48PM A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES I SEE AT 5,000, 10,000, SOME ARE
03:45:52PM 2500 SQUARE FEET.
03:45:53PM WELL, HERE IS ONE, 47,970.
03:45:57PM I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT.
03:45:58PM ON HALIFAX STREET.
03:46:02PM ARE PEOPLE -- PER THE CODE, CAN WE PUT QUADS AND TRIPLEXES
03:46:08PM OR ANOTHER REVISITING OF THE CODE TO AMEND?
03:46:11PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MOSTLY OUR LARGER LIST DOES HAVE -- WE
03:46:15PM DIDN'T BOTHER YOU WITH, YOU KNOW, THE 50 OR 60 CELLS THAT GO
03:46:20PM ALONG WITH THESE RECORDS.
03:46:22PM AS PART OF THE VETTING, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, THE UTILITY
03:46:25PM DEPARTMENTS, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENTS, OUR GROWTH
03:46:28PM MANAGEMENT SERVICES, ALL VETTED THIS LIST FOR WHERE DE-- IT
03:46:33PM WAS APPROPRIATE AGAIN FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING MEANS WE CAN
03:46:35PM PUT THOSE RESIDENTIAL USES.
03:46:36PM SOME OF THESE ARE IN AREAS THAT COULD HAVE MULTIFAMILY ON
03:46:42PM THE LARGER.
03:46:43PM A ZONING CHALLENGE THE CITY CAN -- ONES IT IS ON THIS LIST,
03:46:47PM WE WILL CERTAINLY PURSUE THE ZONING NEEDED.
03:46:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE COULD TRY TO FIX MORE UNITS ON A
03:46:55PM PARCEL IF WE NEEDED TO.
03:46:56PM LAST QUESTION IS, IF WE WERE TO DONATE THIS PROPERTY TO
03:47:00PM SOMEBODY, MEANING ESTABLISH A CONTRACT THAT SAYS YOU ARE NOT
03:47:04PM ALLOWED TO SELL THIS PROPERTY.
03:47:05PM YOU CAN'T SELL THE LAND.
03:47:07PM BUT NOW THAT YOU HAVE THE LAND, YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE ON IT,
03:47:11PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
03:47:11PM WOULD THAT INDIVIDUAL WITH THOSE STIPULATIONS LIKE A 99-YEAR
03:47:18PM LEASE ON THE PROPERTY OR YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SELL IT, CAN
03:47:22PM THEY USE THE LAND AS -- NOT COLLATERAL, BUT WHEN GOING TO
03:47:27PM GET FINANCIALS TO BUILD THE HOUSE.
03:47:29PM CAN THEY USE THE PROPERTY AND SAY, LOOK, THE CITY HAS A
03:47:32PM PROGRAM THEY DONATED THE HAND.
03:47:36PM I AM GOING TO BUILD A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME FOR MYSELF AND
03:47:39PM CHILDREN TO LIVE IN, WOULDN'T BENEFIT THEM FOR GETTING THE
03:47:43PM CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOME.
03:47:44PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: USUALLY I CAN TELL YOU ON THE ONE SIDE
03:47:47PM AND THE HOUSING FROM NHCB.
03:47:50PM FROM A REAL ESTATE DIDN'T, HAPPY HISTORY LENDERS DEPENDING
03:47:54PM ON LIFE CYCLE OF THE LOAN MAYBE 30 YEARS.
03:47:58PM IN YOU HAVE A 99-YEAR LEASE AND WITHIN 30 YEARS OF THAT 99,
03:48:03PM THEY WILL TREAT THAT AS IF YOU HAVE A FULL INTEREST.
03:48:06PM AND WE HAVE SEEN MOSTLY ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND I CAN'T
03:48:09PM SPEAK TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
03:48:10PM ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL PROJECTS ANT
03:48:16PM GRANTS A LONG-TERM TENANT WITH A LONG-TERM LIGHTS AND DID
03:48:21PM NOT INTERFERE WITH THEIR FINANCING.
03:48:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS GOOD.
03:48:24PM A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE PARCELS NOT FOR COMMUNITY
03:48:30PM GARDENS AND ALL THAT BUT FOR HOUSING.
03:48:32PM IS THIS EVERY PARCEL THAT WE OWN OR MORE TO THIS LIST?
03:48:36PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THESE ARE THE 32 THAT STAFF RIGHT NOW
03:48:38PM ARE PROPOSING TO BE ON THE LIST FOR THIS YEAR.
03:48:40PM THIS IS OUR FIRST STAB AT CREATING THIS LIST.
03:48:43PM WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS.
03:48:46PM SO AS YOU HAVE SEEN, WE BUY A LOT OF PROPERTIES FOR
03:48:50PM STORMWATER.
03:48:50PM THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF PROPERTIES ALREADY IN USE.
03:48:52PM SOME OF THEM FOR FUTURE PROJECTS THAT WE ARE STILL IN THE
03:48:55PM PROCESS OF ACQUIRING.
03:48:58PM WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR FILL LOW DEPARTMENTS TO GO THROUGH
03:49:02PM THE LIST.
03:49:02PM IT IS A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS FOR THEM TO REVIEW ALL OF THEIR
03:49:06PM HOLDINGS SO WE CAN SEE WHAT IS RETAPED AND HELD AND PROJECTS
03:49:18PM OVER WHICH TIME THE NATURE OF THE PROJECT MAY CHANGE AND NOW
03:49:20PM THOSE PROPERTIES ARE BACK AVAILABLE.
03:49:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LAST QUESTION -- SORRY.
03:49:26PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THAT'S OKAY.
03:49:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS ON THIS LIST WILL ACCOMMODATE TO
03:49:31PM 100 INDIVIDUALS?
03:49:32PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: ESTIMATED 100 UNITS.
03:49:34PM LOOKING AT -- WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE LIST, LOOKING AT
03:49:39PM SQUARE FOOTAGE AND ZONING.
03:49:40PM WE WERE NOT LOOKING IF IT HAS GRAND TREES.
03:49:43PM OTHER ISSUES.
03:49:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GENERAL NUMBER.
03:49:45PM A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY.
03:49:46PM THIS LIST IS UP TO 100 INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN BE HOUSED.
03:49:49PM SO, GOOD, THAT JUST ADDS TO THE BIGGER PICTURE HOW WE ARE
03:49:55PM TRYING -- HOW WE WANT TO TACKLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR
03:49:58PM ATTAINABLE HOUSING SITUATION.
03:50:00PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:50:01PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU WITH YOUR
03:50:03PM REQUEST ABOUT THE -- I BELIEVE YOU USED THE TERM DERELICT
03:50:07PM PROPERTIES.
03:50:07PM WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER PROPERTIES THAT MAY WORK FOR
03:50:13PM COMMUNITY GARDENS BASED ON SIZE THAT DO NOT TAKE AWAY FROM A
03:50:16PM HOUSING STOCK POTENTIAL FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
03:50:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
03:50:21PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I LOOK AT ALL THESE LOTS, AND THESE LOTS
03:50:27PM SHOULD BE GOING IN A LAND TRUST.
03:50:29PM THESE LOTS SHOULD BE GOING INTO A LAND TRUST TO KEEP THEM
03:50:35PM AFFORDABLE I MEAN, THESE ARE A LOT OF LOTS HERE.
03:50:40PM AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THE LAND TRUST RIGHT
03:50:44PM NOW OR HOW FAR ALONG WE ARE, BUT THESE PROPERTIES SHOULD BE
03:50:47PM GOING TO THE LAND TRUST TO BE MAINTAINED AS AFFORDABLE AND
03:50:51PM KEEP THE PRICE DOWN AND TO BE ABLE TO -- IF A PERSON
03:51:00PM OUTGROWS THIS HOUSE, ALL OF THE PROPERTIES SHOULD BE GOING
03:51:02PM TO A LAND TRUST.
03:51:03PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: YES, BUT THERE IS NOTHING THAT PREVENTS
03:51:07PM IT FROM BEING PUT IN A LAND TRUST IF IT IS ON THIS LIST.
03:51:13PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
03:51:16PM PLANNING AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
03:51:17PM WE HAVE A STATUTORY OBLIGATION TO CREATE THAT LIST.
03:51:21PM THAT IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
03:51:22PM THIS DOESN'T EAR MARK ALL OF THESE TO GO TO DEVELOPERS OR TO
03:51:26PM BE PUT IN A TRUST.
03:51:27PM ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS MEET OUR STATUTORY REQUIREMENT TO
03:51:31PM PRESENT THIS LIST AND PROVIDE IT TO THE STATE.
03:51:32PM THAT IS WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
03:51:34PM THEN WE WILL BE DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
03:51:38PM WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THOSE THAT ARE GOING INTO THE TRUST.
03:51:41PM LOOKING AT THOSE THAT WILL GO OUT IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT IF
03:51:45PM THEY ARE LARGER CANNED YIELD US OTHER UNITS BESIDE THINGS.
03:51:49PM WE WILL START NOW ONCE WE MET OUR STATUTORY OBLIGATION TO
03:51:53PM START TO WORK ON WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE NEXT.
03:51:55PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I'M GOOD WITH THAT.
03:51:58PM NOT THROWING LOTS OUT THERE.
03:52:00PM BECAUSE A PRIMARY EXAMPLE HOW THE LAND TRUST CAN WORK.
03:52:04PM AND YOU CAN KEEP ATTAINABLE HOUSING AND THE COST FACTOR DOWN
03:52:07PM ON THESE FOLKS.
03:52:08PM SO -- AGAIN, I WON'T BE HERE, BUT MR. CARLSON, YOU WILL BE
03:52:14PM HERE.
03:52:14PM GUIDO AND THIS HAS GOT TO BE -- YOU KNOW, THIS IS A BIG
03:52:22PM THING WITH THESE PROPERTIES.
03:52:23PM AND I JUST THINK THIS IS A PRIMARY EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU KEEP
03:52:28PM CONTROL OF THE MARKET.
03:52:31PM HOW WE KEEP CONTROL.
03:52:32PM BECAUSE, WHEN, PROBABLY NEXT WEEK ONCE I LOOK INTO IT, I
03:52:36PM WILL BE MAKING SURE TO BE ASKING AND PUT IN PLEAS THAT WE
03:52:39PM TALK OF 10%.
03:52:42PM IT WAS A HIGH NUMBER FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
03:52:44PM BUT I BELIEVE WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT INCH AT LEAST
03:52:48PM MONEY IS MARKETED IN THE PIE FOR HOUSING IN THE GENERAL FUND
03:52:53PM BUDGET.
03:52:53PM THANK YOU.
03:52:54PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:52:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COULD YOU PLEASE PUT THAT BACK UP.
03:52:59PM THERE WAS A SPOT THAT YOU SAID YOU COULD CLICK TO SHOW THE
03:53:03PM MAP.
03:53:03PM AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT.
03:53:06PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THE MAP?
03:53:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:53:09PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE.
03:53:12PM CAN YOU PULL UP THE COMPUTER --
03:53:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU CAN DRILL DOWN JUST KIND OF --
03:53:18PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THERE WE GO.
03:53:19PM SO WHEN YOU ZOOM INTO THESE, YOU CAN SEE THE INDIVIDUAL
03:53:23PM PARCELS.
03:53:24PM I WILL PICK THIS --
03:53:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, THAT IS FINE.
03:53:27PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THIS IS THE PUBLIC FACING.
03:53:31PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC ONCE WE PUBLISH THIS LIST WILL BE ABLE
03:53:35PM TO -- THERE IT GOES.
03:53:37PM WOULD BE ABLE TO VIEW THIS LIST.
03:53:38PM CLICK ON ANY ONE OF THESE PARCELS.
03:53:40PM ALL OF THESE LITTLE DIAMONDS REFLECT THE ADDRESSES THAT ARE
03:53:45PM ON THE SPREADSHEET THAT YOU HAVE, AND THIS INFORMATION WILL
03:53:48PM COME UP.
03:53:48PM THE COUNCIL DISTRICT, THE SIZE, THE ZONING, AND ALSO FUTURE
03:53:53PM LAND USE.
03:53:54PM THEY WILL HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION, A LITTLE SNAPSHOT.
03:53:58PM WE ALSO HAVE -- FOR ANYONE LOOKING AT IT FOR PLANNING
03:54:01PM PURPOSES, YOU CAN ALSO GO OVER TO THE LAYERS AND PUT ON THE
03:54:06PM FUTURE LAND USE.
03:54:07PM THIS IS ZOOMED IN SO YOU CAN SEE IT FOR THE INDIVIDUAL
03:54:11PM PARCELS AND SEE THE FUTURE LAND USE FOR ALL OF THAT.
03:54:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:54:15PM THAT IS GREAT, BECAUSE I TEND TO AGREE, THESE -- I REALLY
03:54:22PM WANT THE PUBLIC TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS BEFORE THIS COMES
03:54:25PM BACK FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION BECAUSE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS
03:54:31PM WITH HE CAN DO WITH THESE AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD OF
03:54:33PM HEARING WHAT THE PUBLIC SEES WITH -- WITH POTENTIAL FOR
03:54:36PM THESE PROPERTIES.
03:54:37PM SO I APPRECIATE THIS.
03:54:39PM THANK YOU.
03:54:39PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: ONCE WE HAVE THIS -- TO ADDRESS THE
03:54:46PM PUBLIC VIEWING OF THIS.
03:54:47PM ONCE WE SET OUR PUBLIC HEARING FROM OUR GIS FOLKS MAKE IT GO
03:54:52PM PUBLIC AND RIGHT ON THE CITY'S MAP PAGE WITH THE "AFFORDABLE
03:54:56PM HOUSING" TITLE AND THEY WILL SEE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING LIST
03:55:00PM AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO CLICK DIRECTLY ON THIS MAP.
03:55:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:55:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES ABOUT IDEALLY
03:55:13PM PUTTING MOST OF ALL OF THESE IN A LAND TRUST AND PUTTING
03:55:16PM THEM AS A 99-YEAR LEASE WITH RESTRICTIONS FOR PEOPLE TO
03:55:21PM BUILD HOUSING ON IT.
03:55:22PM MY SECOND POINT IS, WHEN WE GET -- I KNOW WE HAVE PROBABLY
03:55:27PM SEVERAL MEETINGS BEFORE THEN, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS
03:55:30PM IS DONE FAIRLY AND EQUABLY IN THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE
03:55:34PM NONPROFIT AFFORDABLE HOME BUILDERS HAVE BEEN SQUEEZED OUT BY
03:55:43PM SOME OF THE BIGGER ONES WITH PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT.
03:55:45PM FOUR YEARS AGO WE STARTED WITH A RFP FOR THREE LOTS AND ONE
03:55:52PM BIDDER AND THE BID WAS ZERO.
03:55:54PM I PICKED UP THE PHONE WITH THE NONPROFIT, THEY DIDN'T EVEN
03:55:57PM KNOW ABOUT IT.
03:55:58PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE DO THIS IT IS FULLY IDENTIFIED
03:56:03PM AND FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BUILD HOME.
03:56:04PM A FAIR LOTTERY OR WHATEVER IT IS SO PEOPLE CAN DO IT MY
03:56:12PM OTHER QUESTION IS, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE OTHER
03:56:14PM PRESENTATION.
03:56:14PM THE UPSIDE DOWN PYRAMID.
03:56:16PM I WILL ASK THE QUESTION WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO THAT.
03:56:18PM YOU MENTIONED IN THE LETTER ABOVE THAT.
03:56:20PM MY NUMBER WON'T BE EXACTLY RIGHT, BUT THERE ARE, LIKE, 130
03:56:26PM PROPERTIES THAT ARE SLATED FOR SOME INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND
03:56:33PM CAN YOU DESCRIBE THIS LIST AND A DESCRIPTION OF THE MAP OF
03:56:35PM THOSE PROPERTIES SOMEWHERE.
03:56:36PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THERE ARE 17 PROPERTIES FOR INFILL 3.
03:56:39PM AND I DON'T KNOW IF ABBY WANTS TO ADDRESS THE 17 PROPERTIES
03:56:43PM THAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT.
03:56:44PM FROM THE 101 LIST WE STARTED DID NOT INCLUDE THE 17
03:56:49PM PROPERTIES FOR INFILL 3, YOUR LIST OF 32.
03:56:53PM SO HELD SEPARATELY.
03:56:54PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YOU ASKED ABOUT 131 PROPERTIES.
03:56:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: MUST HAVE THOUGHT OF THE OVERALL NUMBER.
03:57:02PM 17 -- HOW MANY ARE IN THIS -- THIS BLUE LEVEL THAT SAID
03:57:07PM LEASED TO THIRD PARTIES AND INFILL 2.
03:57:09PM HUE MANY TOTAL PROPERTIES ARE IN THAT.
03:57:11PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I DID NOT TALLY THAT UP.
03:57:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE HAVE SOME WHERE THE LEASES ARE GOING
03:57:16PM TO COME UP OR SOME DON'T HAVE ANYTHING DEVELOPED ON THEM
03:57:20PM WITH THE LEASES COMING UP?
03:57:21PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MOST OF OUR LEASES ARE COMMERCIAL.
03:57:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: A LIST SOMEWHERE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE
03:57:26PM IN INFILL THREE AND TELL US IN 30 SECONDS WHAT WILL BE DONE
03:57:30PM WITH THEM.
03:57:31PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: A RFP AND THEY WILL HAVE TO ADDRESS THE
03:57:35PM LEGALITY OF ANNOUNCING THAT PRIOR TO RFP.
03:57:38PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: 17 PROPERTIES WE ARE LOOKING TO INCLUDE IN
03:57:42PM INFILL PHASE THREE.
03:57:43PM AND WE CAME TO YOU, EIGHT HOMES THAT WERE COMPLETED AND
03:57:49PM LIMITED TO THE 80%.
03:57:52PM WE INCREASED TO 140% A IN,I.
03:57:55PM WITHIN 48 HOURS OF DOING THAT, WE HAD FIVE OF THEM UNDER
03:57:59PM CONTRACT.
03:57:59PM WE ARE RIGHT NOW WORKING TO CLOSE OUT INFILL PHASE 2.
03:58:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: THESE ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE MORE THAN
03:58:05PM SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS, RIGHT?
03:58:15PM PROPERTIES.
03:58:16PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: PROPERTIES WEST OF NEBRASKA, SOUTH OF PALM
03:58:19PM THAT HAVE ALLEYS THERE THAT WILL HAVE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED
03:58:26PM TOWN HOME STYLE THAT ARE NOT SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
03:58:29PM SO USING OUR LOTS TO MAKE MORE THAN ONE HOUSE.
03:58:34PM AND SEVERAL OF THOSE IN THERE.
03:58:39PM AND THAT REALLY TO US OF THE FIVE OUT OF 17 IN CLOSE
03:58:46PM PROXIMITY BORDERED BY THE INTERSTATE, PALM, NEBRASKA, WILL
03:58:50PM CHANGE THAT ENTIRE LITTLE ENCLAVE.
03:58:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: NONE OF THEM ARE SO BIG LIKE THE DRIVE-IN
03:58:58PM MOVIE THEATRE.
03:59:00PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE DON'T ANYTHING THAT BIG, NO.
03:59:02PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY.
03:59:05PM WE LOST OUT.
03:59:06PM WE SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY AND HAD MONEY TO DO IT.
03:59:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CITY OF TAMPA DRIVE-IN.
03:59:14PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE 17 IT -- WE DON'T WANT TO START INFILL
03:59:19PM PHASE 3 UNTIL WE FINISH INFILL PHASE 2.
03:59:22PM WE WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROPERTIES IN THE PROGRAM
03:59:24PM AND THE INCOME THAT COMES IN FOR THAT AND THE FUNDS WE HAVE
03:59:28PM AVAILABLE TO DEVELOPERS FOR INFILL PHASE 2, GOT THE LOT AND
03:59:34PM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR 7500 FOR THE COST TOWARD CONSTRUCTING THE
03:59:38PM HOME AND OTHER THINGS.
03:59:39PM WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND WE ARE ALMOST DONE.
03:59:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: LOOK INTO PUTTING THOSE IN A LAND TRUST TOO,
03:59:45PM THE PHASE 3.
03:59:46PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE PHASE 3?
03:59:49PM NO, WE ARE USING OTHER FUNDS THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW US.
03:59:51PM RIGHT NOW WITH THE HUD FUND, THEY ARE DIFFICULT TO PUT THEM
03:59:56PM INTO THE TRUST.
03:59:56PM SO WHEN WE HAVE TO STAFF FUNDS IN ORDER TO MAKE IT WORK, WE
04:00:02PM HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.
04:00:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO LAST THINGS.
04:00:06PM I WILL JUST ASK AGAIN MAKE SURE WE ARE TRANSPARENT TO
04:00:09PM IDENTIFY SO WE DON'T HAVE ONE OR TWO BIDDERS AND NOT SHOW
04:00:15PM PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT FOR ANY BIG BIDDERS.
04:00:18PM THE SECOND THING IS THAT -- I SAW IN AN ANNOUNCEMENT WAS A
04:00:25PM DEVELOPMENT WAS GIVEN CREDIT FOR 1,000 AFFORDABLE HOMES.
04:00:28PM I WISH WE COULD -- I KNOW THERE IS A FEDERAL DECISION OF IT,
04:00:32PM BUT AS CITY COUNCIL DEFINE WHAT THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT
04:00:36PM SENDS OUT.
04:00:36PM I DIDN'T DRILL DOWN NO IN IT.
04:00:38PM SO MANY THINGS ARE BEING CALLED AFFORDABLE HOME.
04:00:41PM IF IT IS 140% OF AMI, IT IS NOT AFFORDABLE.
04:00:45PM I SAW CRITICISM ON IT ONLINE HOW IT IS BEING USED.
04:00:51PM AND I THINK WE NEED TO COORDINATE, IF THE ADMINISTRATION IS
04:00:54PM TRYING TO HIT AN ASH TARRY GOAL -- ARBITRARY GOAL AND 140 OR
04:01:04PM 150% OF AMI.
04:01:05PM I WOULD LIKE TO SET THE GOAL LOWER AND HIT THE GOAL.
04:01:09PM BECAUSE IT IS NOT HELPING THE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO HELP.
04:01:12PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO THAT FOR A
04:01:15PM MOMENT, IF I MAY.
04:01:16PM INFILL PHASE 2, 11 DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS.
04:01:20PM SEVEN OF THEM SMALL DEVELOPER WHO NEVER IT DID BUSINESS WITH
04:01:24PM THE CITY.
04:01:24PM IT GOES THROUGH THE DEMAND ON-STAR SYSTEM.
04:01:28PM ANYONE LISTENING TO A DEVELOPER THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE PART
04:01:32PM OF THAT, THAT IS HOW THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE RFP GOES OUT
04:01:37PM WITH A STANDARDIZED SYSTEM.
04:01:39PM AND POST IT ON OUR WEB SITE.
04:01:42PM IN ADDITION TO THE 10,000 TRACKER, WE DON'T REPORT ANYTHING
04:01:46PM OVER 140 AMI.
04:01:48PM THAT IS KAYON AND I THAT ARE PUTTING THOSE NUMBERS 234.
04:01:54PM 140% AMI OR LESS.
04:01:56PM NO 150.
04:01:58PM NO 199.
04:01:59PM NOTHING IN THERE.
04:02:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS THROWING THEM OUT.
04:02:02PM WHY YOU ARE YOU COUNTING OVER 100%.
04:02:06PM I WOULDN'T COUNT THAT EITHER.
04:02:07PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: OUR BONUS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN DENSITY
04:02:11PM BONUS GOES TO 120%.
04:02:12PM AND THE DEFINITION BY THE STATE STATE GOES TO 140%.
04:02:16PM SO THAT IS WHERE THOSE NUMBERS COME FROM.
04:02:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING -- I DON'T WANT TO TALK
04:02:22PM ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THIS, BUT JUST A MONTH OR SO AGO I HAD
04:02:26PM A COMPLAINT FROM A NONPROFIT THAT THEY CALLED A STAFF PERSON
04:02:29PM AND THE STAFF PERSON TOLD THEM THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH A BIG
04:02:32PM DEVELOPER IF THEY WANTED TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY.
04:02:34PM I REPORTED THAT TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND I THINK WE NEED TO
04:02:40PM BE VERY CAREFUL -- I AM NOT SAYING THAT YOU DID IT, BUT
04:02:43PM THERE IS -- LIKE WHAT WE TALK ABOUT PUBLICLY IN TERMS OF
04:02:46PM TRANSPARENCY AND THE REPORTS WE ARE GETTING ON WHAT IS
04:02:48PM HAPPENING BEHIND THE SCENES.
04:02:49PM I KNOW -- THAT SITUATION, THE CHIEF OF STAFF HAS ADDRESSED
04:02:55PM IT.
04:02:55PM BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS MOVING FORWARD IN THE
04:02:58PM SAME TRANSPARENT COMPETITIVE WAY.
04:03:00PM THANK YOU.
04:03:01PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:03:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: TWO THINGS.
04:03:04PM I THOUGHT THE INFILL PROGRAM WAS STRICTLY FOR THE SMALLER
04:03:08PM DEVELOPERS.
04:03:08PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT IS.
04:03:10PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE FIRST TIME WHEN YOU DID THE FIRST ONE
04:03:12PM YOU PUT IT OUT AND THE SMALL GUYS CAME.
04:03:14PM YOU GOT FULL, RANDOLPH, A FEW MINORITIES IN THERE.
04:03:19PM YOU ARE STILL DOING THE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THOSE GUYS --
04:03:22PM LOW-HANGING GUYS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
04:03:24PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, SIR, WE ARE.
04:03:25PM AND EACH TIME WE HAVE DONE A PHASE, WE HAVE WORKED TO MAK
04:03:30PM IT MORE INCLUSIVE AND TARGET THOSE AIR GRASS THAT THOSE
04:03:35PM INCOME LEVELS WE NEED THE MOST.
04:03:36PM AND WE HAVE ALWAYS MADE ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON WHAT WE LEARNED
04:03:41PM IN THE PHASE BEFORE THAT.
04:03:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE SURE THE SMALL GUYS, THE SMALL BLACK
04:03:47PM MINORITY BUSINESSES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE PART OF THE
04:03:50PM PROGRAM.
04:03:50PM TWO, VAST MAJORITY OF THESE LOTS ARE IN THE CRA ZONE.
04:03:55PM FROM WHAT I CAN SEE ON THIS FORM HERE.
04:03:59PM MAST MAJORITY IN THE CRA.
04:04:01PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MOST OF OUR INFILL AND SINGLE-FAMILY
04:04:06PM LOTS CAME TO US FROM THE COUNTY.
04:04:07PM THEY WERE GIVEN TO US BY THE COUNTY.
04:04:10PM AND SO MOST OF THOSE BECAUSE OF THE GREAT RECESSION FROM '08
04:04:16PM TO '15 AND '16 WHEN THE COUNTY GOT THEM AND GIVEN TO US
04:04:23PM WHERE THE VAST MAJORITY ARE THAT WAY.
04:04:26PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE ADDRESSES ARE IN
04:04:29PM THE CRA ZONE.
04:04:31PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTIES
04:04:35PM GIVEN TO THE COUNTY IS IN DISTRICT 5.
04:04:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOES TO ANOTHER POINT.
04:04:39PM IF THAT IS THE CASE THE CRA HAS MONEY AS WELL AND THEY NEED
04:04:43PM TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS BECAUSE MOST OF THE HOUSES ARE IN
04:04:46PM THE CRA ZONE.
04:04:47PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WHY MR. DRUMGO CAME AND PRESENTED TO
04:04:52PM YOU IN JANUARY IN THE CRA MEETING AND INCLUDING THE CRAs AND
04:04:58PM THE BOARD.
04:04:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
04:05:00PM THEY NEED TO PUT DOLLARS TO BE PART OF A RFP AND SOMETHING
04:05:05PM TO CONTROL THAT AS WELL OR WITH THAT LAND TRUST SITUATION
04:05:07PM THAT IS BEING CONTROLLED.
04:05:09PM BECAUSE THEY HAVE DOLLARS.
04:05:11PM AND WHAT THEY NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY ON.
04:05:13PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
04:05:14PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:05:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO COUNCILMAN GUDES' POINT, ONCE THEY ARE ON
04:05:20PM THE LIST THE CRA CAN STILL WORK WITH THEM FOR AFFORDABLE
04:05:24PM HOUSING.
04:05:25PM DOESN'T STOP US FROM USING IT -- OKAY.
04:05:27PM I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
04:05:29PM I THOUGHT SO, BUT ONCE IT GOES ON THIS LIST, IT HAS TO BE
04:05:33PM USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
04:05:35PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: OR THE PROCEEDS USED FOR AFFORDABLE
04:05:39PM HOUSING.
04:05:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, THANK YOU.
04:05:41PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THE THIRD POINT I MADE, DOE DONATED TO
04:05:45PM A NONPROFIT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF PERMANENT AFFORDABLE
04:05:48PM HOUSING AND IT WILL BE A NONPROFIT THAT WILL QUALIFY UNDER
04:05:52PM THAT.
04:05:52PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:05:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ONE LAST THING.
04:05:58PM DESPITE MY QUESTIONS AND PUSH PACK, I FORGOT TO SAY THANK
04:06:02PM YOU TO THE TWO OF YOU AND ALL THE STAFF THAT PUT THIS
04:06:04PM TOGETHER.
04:06:05PM SOUND LIKE IT TOOK A LOT, A LOT OF TIME AND THIS IS A GOOD
04:06:09PM PRESENTATION.
04:06:10PM VERY INFORMATIVE AND WE ARE HEAR TO ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS.
04:06:13PM NOT THAT WE ARE PUSHING BACK AGAINST YOU ALL FOR DELIVERING
04:06:16PM THE MESSAGE.
04:06:17PM THANK YOU FOR THE HARD WORK IN DOING THIS.
04:06:18PM GREAT INFORMATION FOR US AND THE PUBLIC, THANK YOU.
04:06:21PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: APPRECIATE THAT.
04:06:23PM IT IS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
04:06:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MISS VAN LOAN, YOU ARE LOOKING FOR A MOTION
04:06:28PM TO SET UP A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS?
04:06:30PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: YES, SIR.
04:06:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
04:06:33PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WE ASK AT LEAST 45 DAYS OUT SO THAT,
04:06:36PM ONE, WE CAN GET THE -- WE WILL PUBLISH THE MAP.
04:06:41PM LET YOU ALL KNOW WHEN THE MAP IS LIVE AND YOU CAN ALSO SHARE
04:06:45PM THAT AND WE WILL SEND YOU THE LINK TO THAT SO YOU ALSO HAVE
04:06:48PM THAT AND THAT WILL GIVE THE PUBLIC AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO
04:06:52PM REVIEW THAT MAP AND LOOK AT THE PROPERTIES.
04:06:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAY 18.
04:06:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
04:06:59PM >> SECOND.
04:07:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO
04:07:05PM ADVERTISING.
04:07:05PM IS THAT DONE THROUGH THE CLERK'S OFFICE OR YOUR DEPARTMENT?
04:07:08PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I WAS INFORMED THAT FOR ADVERTISING, IT
04:07:11PM IS JUST STANDARD.
04:07:11PM WE DON'T HAVE A 30 DAYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AS FAR AS
04:07:15PM MAKING NOTICE AHEAD OF TIME.
04:07:16PM JUST MAKING NOTICE OF A PUBLIC HEARING THROUGH YOUR STANDARD
04:07:21PM NOTICE WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS ENOUGH.
04:07:23PM WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE EVERYONE ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW THE
04:07:28PM INFORMATION, IF WHAT I SAID MAKES SENSE AS THE LAYPERSON IN
04:07:32PM THE ROOM ON THIS ISSUE.
04:07:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:07:36PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:07:39PM INCH ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:07:41PM OPPOSED?
04:07:42PM MOTION PASSES.
04:07:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NEED TO BE A SPECIFIC TIME, YES, NO?
04:07:47PM JUST PUBLIC NOTICE?
04:07:48PM OKAY.
04:07:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: DISCUSSIONS HAVE GONE WAY TOO LONG TODAY.
04:07:56PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THANK YOU.
04:07:58PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IT PASSED.
04:08:00PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20 -- SORRY AM I IN THE WRONG ONE.
04:08:09PM 17.
04:08:10PM FILE NUMBER CM 23-80245.
04:08:16PM MR. COTTON.
04:08:17PM >>ERIC COTTON:ER RECOGNIZE COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT
04:08:20PM COORDINATION.
04:08:20PM LET ME START OFF BY MAKING A RECOMMENDATION FOLLOW UP ON THE
04:08:25PM JUNE 22 WORKSHOP AND PUT IT IN THE JULY CYCLE IF CHANGES ARE
04:08:31PM DETERMINED TO BE MADE.
04:08:31PM NOW THAT I PUT THAT ON THE RECORD, THIS IS AFTER COUNCILMAN
04:08:34PM GUDES MADE THE MOTION REGARDING THE SIZE OF OUR SIGNS.
04:08:38PM SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH BOTH THE GROUP FROM T.H.A.N.
04:08:42PM AND WITH A GROUP OF DEVELOPERS AND ATTORNEYS REPRESENTING
04:08:46PM DEVELOPERS OVER THE NOTICE ISSUES ON WHAT SIZE SIGNS WILL BE
04:08:50PM RECOMMENDED.
04:08:50PM THE NOTICE DISTANCE.
04:08:53PM YOU KNOW, PUTTING QR CODES ON THE SIGNS AND STUFF, WHICH I
04:08:57PM AM 234079 A TECH PERSON.
04:08:59PM I KNOW I WORKED IN RESTAURANTS YOU PUT YOUR PHONE ON THERE
04:09:02PM TO GET A MENU.
04:09:03PM OTHER THAN THAT, I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT.
04:09:06PM OUR RECOMMENDATION REALLY IS TO COME BACK ONCE -- WE ARE
04:09:09PM HAVING ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH -- BOTH WITH THE T.H.A.N.
04:09:14PM GROUP AND THE DISTANCE GOING OUT FOR NOTICE ON THE SIZE
04:09:18PM SIGNS.
04:09:18PM THE COUNTY CHARGES $107 FOR THEIR SIGNS THAT INCLUDES
04:09:22PM THE COST OF POSTING.
04:09:23PM THE ACTUAL COST OF THE SIGN ITSELF CONTACTED THE SIGNS -- IS
04:09:29PM $47.
04:09:29PM THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY
04:09:32PM SCENES, FRAMED UNIT A TWO-BY-FOUR BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE
04:09:37PM SIGNS.
04:09:38PM IT GOES ON A METAL FRAME AND YOU STICK IT IN THE GROUND AND
04:09:43PM THERE UNTIL THE HEARING TAKES PLACE.
04:09:45PM TALK OF CHANGING THE COLOR OF THE SIGNS TO MAKE THEM BOLDER,
04:09:50PM LIKE A NEON GREEN OREGON RANG SO THEY POP A LITTLE BIT MORE
04:09:53PM BUT ALL THE ISSUES WE ARE DISCUSSING TO COME BACK TO YOU --
04:09:56PM TO GO BACK TO COUNCIL IN JUNE.
04:09:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:10:00PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T KNOW IF WE ARE TALKING OF TWO
04:10:04PM DIFFERENT TYPE OF SIGNS.
04:10:05PM BUT THE SIGNS THAT I NORMALLY SEE FOR THE COUNTY ARE AND I
04:10:11PM DON'T KNOW THE EXACT SIZE, BUT THOSE SIGNS YOU CAN SEE DOWN
04:10:15PM THE BLOCK.
04:10:15PM YOU CAN SEE THE COMMISSIONERS' FACES ON THE SIGNS.
04:10:21PM I THINK WE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT SIGNS.
04:10:23PM >>ERIC COTTON: REFERRING FOR THE SIGNS POSTED FOR ABOUT
04:10:25PM PUBLIC NOTICE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
04:10:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE SIGNS.
04:10:30PM SIGNS FOR GENERAL INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS.
04:10:33PM THAT IS WHAT I WAS SAYING.
04:10:34PM MIRRORING WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING.
04:10:37PM MAYBE TWO TYPE OF SIGNS BUT MOST OF THE COUNTY SIGNS ARE
04:10:41PM HUGE, STAND UP.
04:10:42PM WITH A COMMISSIONER'S FACE.
04:10:44PM A DATE, MEETING, TIME.
04:10:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ABOUT 3 X 3.
04:10:51PM >>ERIC COTTON: I THOUGHT THE MOTION WAS FOR THE SIGNS
04:10:53PM SPECIFICALLY FOR CHAPTER 27, PUBLIC NOTICES FOR VARIANCES,
04:10:59PM REZONINGS, SPECIAL USE AND THAT.
04:11:01PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT IS GREAT AND NOT WHAT I WAS REFERRING
04:11:04PM TO THAT DAY.
04:11:04PM REFERRING TO THE COMMUNITY SIGNS AND WHAT ISSUES FOR ZONING
04:11:09PM AND WHATEVER.
04:11:10PM THEY HAVE SIGNS THAT THE PUBLIC CAN SEE REGARDLESS -- YOU
04:11:13PM KNOW IF -- I AM LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT CAN KNOW WHAT IS
04:11:16PM GOING ON IN THE CITY.
04:11:18PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: COUNCILMAN GUDES, ABBYE FEELEY.
04:11:23PM YOU MADE THIS MOTION TWO WEEKS AGO.
04:11:24PM YOU PUT UP A SIGN.
04:11:25PM I HAD TO GET A PICTURE OF THE SCIENCE.
04:11:28PM A VISION ZERO MEETING SIGN.
04:11:30PM VIK'S TEAM AND HIS TEAM.
04:11:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WAS HORRIBLE.
04:11:37PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE WERE LOOKING AT THE SAME SIZE.
04:11:41PM AND PEOPLE THOUGHT THIS MOTION CAME TO US. SO WE TOOK THE
04:11:44PM ACTION AND HERE WE ARE ON THE MOTION.
04:11:45PM HEARING WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU ARE
04:11:49PM LOOKING FOR US TO LOOK HOLISTICALLY WHEN WE ARE PRESENTING,
04:11:54PM YOU KNOW, PUBLIC MEETINGS CITY-WIDE FOR THERE TO BE -- THEN
04:11:59PM I THINK THE MOTION MAY BE DIRECTED EITHER TO THE
04:12:03PM COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE WE
04:12:05PM CAN COME BACK TO YOU IN 60 OR 90 DAYS WITH A COMPREHENSIVE
04:12:10PM STRATEGY ON HOW WE WOULD, YOU KNOW,.
04:12:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T THINK IT TAKES 90 DAYS.
04:12:17PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: MY DOCKET IS FULL ON CERTAIN THINGS, AND I
04:12:21PM DON'T WANT TO COMMIT FOR SOMEONE WHO IS NOT HERE TODAY.
04:12:25PM ALLOW US TO HAVE A UNIFICATION AND STRATEGY THAT WILL UNIFY
04:12:30PM THAT FOR ALL THE DIFFERENT UTILITY AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
04:12:32PM I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DO --
04:12:34PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I AGREE ON THAT POINT, ABBYE, EVEN WITH THE
04:12:39PM SMALL SIGNS WITH ZONING, THAT IS TOO SMALL TOO.
04:12:41PM NO ONE CAN SEE THAT.
04:12:43PM I AM GLAD YOU DID BRING THAT BACK AS WELL, ERIC.
04:12:46PM BUT ALSO WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT -- ANOTHER MOTION TO BE
04:12:50PM MADE IS FINE, BUT YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE CITY WHEN YOU TALK
04:12:53PM ABOUT COMMUNICATIONS, EVENTS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, MEETINGS,
04:12:58PM COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
04:13:00PM YOU CAN'T SEE ANY OF THIS STUFF.
04:13:02PM I THINK AS A GOAL OF EVERYTHING.
04:13:04PM SO IF YOUR DEPARTMENT DOES ONE SESSION AND THE COMMUNITY
04:13:09PM DOES ANOTHER, I GET THAT, BUT I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A
04:13:12PM MEETING OF EVERYBODY TO SEE WHAT ARE THE RULES BECAUSE IT
04:13:14PM COULD STILL BE A ZONING -- A RULE SAYING YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT
04:13:17PM BIG OF SIGN IN THE CITY.
04:13:19PM I DON'T KNOW.
04:13:20PM BUT THE COUNTY COMES IN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY PUTS THE
04:13:23PM SIGNS UP ON OUR CORNERS LIKE IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL, YOU KNOW.
04:13:27PM SO THAT IS WHAT I AM REFERRING TO.
04:13:29PM SO WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION OR TAKE THAT BACK.
04:13:32PM WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO HERE?
04:13:35PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WELL, THE MOTION SAID FOR REZONINGS, THAT'S
04:13:39PM WHY WE ARE HERE.
04:13:39PM AND WE ARE HAPPY TO HELP AND GET INVOLVED AND DO WHATEVER WE
04:13:43PM NEED TO DO TO WORK WITH THE OTHER TEAMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY,
04:13:46PM BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE PROBABLY DIRECTED AT THE
04:13:49PM ADMINISTRATION AT SOME LEVEL OR COMMUNICATIONS SO WE CAN
04:13:52PM ACTUALLY START LOOKING AT IT WHAT IT IS YOU BROUGHT FORWARD
04:13:58PM OUTSIDE OF WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO REZONING-WISE.
04:14:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN MAKE THE SUGGESTION.
04:14:03PM STAFF HAS REQUESTED A PARTICULAR DATE WITH REGARD TO THE
04:14:07PM REZONING FOR THE JUNE -- TAKE THAT MOTION AND THEN TAKE UP
04:14:10PM THAT ISSUE THEN.
04:14:11PM WOULD THAT BE OKAY WITH YOU THEN?
04:14:13PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
04:14:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN JUST ASK WHAT DATE AGAIN.
04:14:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUNE 22.
04:14:18PM HE MENTIONED THAT AT THE BEGINNING.
04:14:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUNE 22 FOR THE SIGNAGE WITH REGARD TO --
04:14:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: NO WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO SAY GOOD NEIGHBOR
04:14:28PM NOTICE.
04:14:28PM BECAUSE THAT ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING FROM WHAT WE ARE LOOKING
04:14:31PM AT WITH THE DISTANCE, LOOKING AT WITH THE SIGNS, POTENTIALLY
04:14:35PM IS CERTIFICATE OF FILING.
04:14:38PM OTHER ISSUES WORKING WITH JONATHAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT
04:14:42PM STAKEHOLDERS ON TO REVAMP SOME OF THOSE ITEMS AND IMPROVE
04:14:46PM PUBLIC NOTICE.
04:14:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WORKSHOP ON THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE AND
04:14:51PM ETC.
04:14:52PM YOU HAVE THAT MADAM CLERK?
04:14:53PM THE 22nd OF JUNE.
04:14:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS THAT YOUR MOTION, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
04:15:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, I HAVE A QUESTION.
04:15:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EVERYBODY IS RUSHING INTO IT.
04:15:04PM ARE YOU FINISHING COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:15:08PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WAS LISTENING TO MR. SHELBY --
04:15:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WITH HER QUESTION.
04:15:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, POINT OF ORDER.
04:15:16PM MR. SHELBY IS TRYING TO GET IT CLEAR ON THE ONE SITUATION
04:15:19PM RIGHT NOW.
04:15:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I UNDERSTAND, BUT HE WANTS SOMEONE TO MAKE A
04:15:23PM MOTION BEFORE WE GO FURTHER AND I BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN HAS
04:15:28PM ANOTHER QUESTION.
04:15:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT RELATED?
04:15:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
04:15:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS THE WHOLE THING.
04:15:33PM THESE -- THE SIGNS.
04:15:35PM IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE A WILDLY DIFFERENT DEFINITION.
04:15:39PM EITHER -- EITHER IF YOU CAN TAKE PHOTOS WHILE YOU ARE OUT
04:15:42PM AND ABOUT OR IF YOU ALL SEEM TO HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THESE
04:15:46PM COUNTY SIGNS LOOK LIKE, I CANNOT VISUALIZE THEM.
04:15:49PM I AM JUST A VERY VISUAL PERSON AND I THINK A LOT OF THAT
04:15:52PM CONFUSION IS JUST THROUGH THAT.
04:15:54PM IF WE CAN GET IMAGES FROM THE COUNTY OR WHATEVER ABOUT --
04:15:59PM THEY OBVIOUSLY SEEM TO USE DIFFERENT SIZED SIGNS FOR
04:16:02PM DIFFERENT THINGS.
04:16:03PM IF MAYBE WE CAN GET -- JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THEY USE FOR
04:16:07PM WHAT.
04:16:07PM WHAT DIFFERENT SIZE SIGNS, WHAT COLORED SIGNS, JUST FOR AN
04:16:11PM IDEA OF WHAT THE COUNTY USES VERSUS WHAT WE COULD USE.
04:16:15PM BECAUSE I THINK WHAT WE ALL ARE AGREEING ON.
04:16:18PM AND I PROBABLY THINK THE GROUPS YOU ARE TALKING TO ALSO
04:16:22PM AGREE 2459 LITTLE SIGNS ON THE STAKES DON'T LAST.
04:16:25PM I THINK WE ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT ON THAT AND JUST A MATTER
04:16:29PM WHAT WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO LOOK LIKE.
04:16:32PM ALL I AM ASKING IS VISUALS ON JUNE 22.
04:16:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: OKAY.
04:16:38PM NOW MR. COTTON, YOU ARE ASKING FOR A TIME TO COME BACK WITH
04:16:41PM THIS?
04:16:41PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR, ON THE JUNE 22 WORKSHOP THAT DATE.
04:16:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCILMAN.
04:16:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL MAKE A MOTION.
04:16:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:16:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
04:16:54PM HE MADE THE MOTION, I WILL SECOND IT.
04:16:56PM WHICHEVER WAY.
04:16:57PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:16:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:17:00PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:17:01PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:17:03PM MOTION PASSES.
04:17:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO SEPARATE -- ARE THEY -- ARE THEY NOT
04:17:11PM TWO SEPARATE ITEMS?
04:17:12PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WHAT SHE WANTED.
04:17:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHY US IS THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE.
04:17:17PM NOW THE ISSUE THAT MR. GUDES RAISED WITH REGARD TO COMMUNITY
04:17:21PM SIGNAGE FOR INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMUNICATION FROM THE CITY TO
04:17:24PM THE STAFF -- TO THE COMMUNITY.
04:17:26PM IS THAT RIGHT?
04:17:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE CAN DO IT THAT WAY, MR. SHELBY.
04:17:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOWEVER YOU WISH, SIR.
04:17:33PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
04:17:36PM HONESTLY -- I HEAR ABBYE SAYING IT, BUT ALL SIGNAGE IN THE
04:17:41PM CITY REGARDING OF ZONING OR WITH COMMUNITY EVENTS, IS THERE
04:17:45PM A ZONING OR PERMITTING ROOM FOR THE SIZE OF THAT SIGN IN
04:17:49PM THIS CITY?
04:17:50PM THAT IS WHY I GUESS IT WENT TO ZONING AND PERMITTING TO FIND
04:17:54PM IF THE RULE IS A DIFFERENT RULE OR WHAT THE COUNTY IS DOING.
04:17:58PM THAT IS WHAT I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
04:18:00PM >>ERIC COTTON: I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
04:18:01PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS A REGULATION
04:18:05PM REGARDING TO THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT SIGNS.
04:18:07PM IF WE WANT TOP CALL THE PUBLIC NOTICE SIGN A GOVERNMENT
04:18:10PM SIGN; HOWEVER, WHEN APPLICATIONS COME THROUGH OUR OFFICE,
04:18:13PM AND THEY ARE PAYING FOR A REZONING AND SPECIAL USE OR
04:18:16PM WHATEVER, THE COST OF THAT SIGN IS IN THERE.
04:18:18PM WHEN MOBILITY IS PUTTING ON A PUBLIC MEETING AND THEY ARE
04:18:25PM PUTTING OUR THEIR OWN SIGN, TO ME, IN MY WORLD, THAT IS
04:18:29PM SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
04:18:30PM STORMWATER AND WASTEWATER WILL HAVE A PIPE MEETING AND
04:18:33PM PUTTING OUT SOMETHING FOR THAT AND THEY USE A DIFFERENT KIND
04:18:36PM OF SIGN.
04:18:36PM TO ME THAT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT TOO.
04:18:38PM FROM WHAT YOU MADE THE MOTION TWO WEEKS AGO AND WHAT YOU
04:18:42PM SHOWED, IT WAS MORE OF A CITY-WIDE PUBLIC NOTICE TYPE OF
04:18:48PM SIGN VERSUS A ZONING APPLICATION TYPE OF SIGN.
04:18:52PM BY UNDERSTAND THAT THE ISSUE IS PUBLIC NOTICE REGARDLESS,
04:18:55PM AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE LARGER AND MORE UNIFIED, BUT WHEN I
04:18:59PM HEAR THIS DISCUSSION, AND IN OUR WORLD, IT IS TWO DIFFERENT
04:19:02PM BUCKETS OF DISCUSSION.
04:19:03PM ONE GOES WITH THESE APPLICATIONS.
04:19:05PM AND ONE GOES WITH, HEY, CITY, WHEN YOU ARE DOING A MEETING,
04:19:09PM IT NEEDS TO BE BIG AND LOOK LIKE THIS.
04:19:11PM AND HERE IS HOW WE WANT IT.
04:19:12PM SO I THINK THAT IS A DIFFERENT REPORT BACK TO YOU AS TO WHAT
04:19:16PM WE COULD TO DO UNIFIED THAT TO MAKE THEM LARGER.
04:19:20PM TO MAKE THEM MORE NOTICEABLE.
04:19:22PM TO ENSURE THAT THE BRAND SOMETHING A CERTAIN WAY THAT YOU
04:19:26PM KNOW IT IS A CITY OF TAMPA MEETING.
04:19:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU.
04:19:29PM YOU GOT IT.
04:19:30PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
04:19:30PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU GOT IT.
04:19:32PM I WILL GO AHEAD TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE SECOND PORTION OF
04:19:35PM THAT.
04:19:35PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
04:19:36PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIR, MAKE A MOTION TO CLEAR THIS UP,
04:19:40PM SIR.
04:19:40PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, SIR, PLEASE.
04:19:43PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MAKE A MOTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO
04:19:44PM COME BACK WITH THE PROPER SIGNAGES WITH REFERENCE OF
04:19:48PM COMMUNITY NOTICES, GOVERNMENT EVENTS, IN REFERENCE TO SOME
04:19:52PM OF THE ACTIVITY -- ALL DEPARTMENTS AND MAYBE CAN MIRROR WHAT
04:19:56PM THE COUNTY DOES AND THEIR PROCESS.
04:19:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
04:19:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NOW COUNCILMAN GUDES, I REMEMBERED THAT WE
04:20:02PM HAD A DISCUSSION AT THE CRA, THAT WHEN CRA FUNDS WERE SPENT
04:20:10PM ON FACADE GRANT AND THINGS LIKE, WE WANTED THIS SIGNAGE THAT
04:20:14PM SAYS YOUR CRA DOLLARS AT WORK SO PEOPLE KNEW AND UNDERSTOOD
04:20:18PM THEY COULD APPLY FOR THOSE GRANTS.
04:20:19PM ARE YOU ALSO GOING TO ASK FOR THAT AS WELL WITH THAT.
04:20:22PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THAT WILL BE A CRA ISSUE, I BELIEVE.
04:20:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
04:20:28PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES AND SECONDED BY --
04:20:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUNE 22.
04:20:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:20:37PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:20:38PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
04:20:40PM OPPOSED?
04:20:42PM MOTION CARRIED.
04:20:43PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:20:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU IN YOUR
04:20:47PM DEPARTMENT ALSO -- THIS GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE IS CRITICALLY
04:20:52PM IMPORTANT.
04:20:53PM THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR IT.
04:20:54PM APPRECIATE YOU BEING THOROUGH WITH THAT AND WORKING WITH THE
04:20:59PM COMMUNITY ON THAT.
04:21:00PM IT WILL MEAN A LOT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND OTHER FOLKS IN
04:21:02PM THE COMMUNITY.
04:21:03PM THANK YOU.
04:21:03PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20, FILE NUMBER CM
04:21:14PM 23-79785.
04:21:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I READ IT.
04:21:16PM SECOND READING OF THIS RESOLUTION AMENDING THE RULES OF
04:21:19PM PROCEDURES GOVERNING MEETINGS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
04:21:23PM CITY OF TAMPA, AMENDING RULE 3, CHANGING THE ORDER OF
04:21:26PM BUSINESS AND CONDUCT OF REGULAR MEETINGS PERMITTING REMOTE
04:21:29PM PARTICIPATION TO A MEMBER WHO IS NOT PHYSICALLY ABLE TO
04:21:32PM ATTEND A MEET WHERE A QUORUM IS PRESENT.
04:21:34PM AMENDING RULE 5 SAY HOW FOR VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION OF THE
04:21:38PM PUBLIC USING COMMUNICATION MEDIA TECHNOLOGY, CMT, AMENDING
04:21:44PM RULE 6 REGARDING PETITIONERS' REQUEST FOR CONTINUANCES FOR
04:21:49PM QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS ALLOWING FOR VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION
04:21:53PM USING CMT.
04:21:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:21:57PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:21:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:22:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
04:22:03PM >>ORLANDO GUDES:: YES.
04:22:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:22:06PM >>BILL CARSON: YES.
04:22:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, AND AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 25, FILE NUMBER E
04:22:18PM 2023-8, CHAPTER 18.
04:22:19PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: GOOD AFTERNOON, ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY
04:22:38PM ATTORNEY.
04:22:38PM THIS IS THE DRAFT FIRST READING -- SORRY ROAR NOT DRAFT, BUT
04:22:47PM FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR
04:22:52PM THE CRB IN RESPONSE TO THE MOTION YOU MADE WHEN PRESENTED
04:22:55PM THE DRAFT ORDINANCE.
04:22:57PM I MADE THE CHANGES THAT COUNCIL REQUESTED.
04:22:59PM I WILL NOTE THAT I ALSO MADE ONE ADDITIONAL CHANGE IN THE
04:23:05PM WHEREAS CLAUSE.
04:23:06PM BY INCORPORATED LANGUAGE SUGGESTED BY THE ACLU ATTORNEY,
04:23:11PM WITH REGARD TO THE PURPOSE FOR THE ORDINANCE.
04:23:14PM AND I DID NOT INCLUDE ONE PHRASE THAT HAD OPINION SUGGESTED
04:23:21PM BY COUNCIL WHERE YOU REFERRED TO PRIVATELY OBTAINED OUTSIDE
04:23:29PM COUNSEL BECAUSE, TO ME, THAT IMPLIES THAT IT WOULD BE A
04:23:33PM PRIVATE ENTITY RETAINING THE ATTORNEY WHEN IT IS ACTUALLY
04:23:36PM THE CITY RETAINING THE ATTORNEY.
04:23:38PM SO, TO ME, THAT WAS CONFUSING.
04:23:42PM AND I ALSO THINK IT IS UNNECESSARY BECAUSE -- NO THANK YOU
04:23:47PM -- WE ARE SAYING THAT WE ARE GOING TO HIRE AN ATTORNEY WHO
04:23:52PM IS NOT A CITY EMPLOYEE.
04:23:53PM SO THAT IS A PRIVATE ATTORNEY.
04:23:55PM IT IS NOT A PUBLIC EMPLOYEE.
04:23:59PM SO WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.
04:24:02PM IF NOT, YOU CAN PROCEED TO FIRST READING.
04:24:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:24:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SEE YOU HAVE IT.
04:24:09PM IF THERE IS A WAY TO PUT IT ON THE ELMO BRIEFLY SO THE
04:24:13PM PUBLIC MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE IT.
04:24:15PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ALL RIGHT, I CREATED A RED LINE COPY JUST
04:24:19PM IN CASE YOU WANTED THAT VERSION OR THE FINAL VERSION.
04:24:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE FINAL VERSION I THINK WILL BE GREAT.
04:24:24PM YOU.
04:24:35PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THAT IS THE FIRST PAGE, AND, AGAIN, THE
04:24:37PM ONLY THING THAT CHANGED ON THE FIRST PAGE, I ADDED IN THE
04:24:41PM THIRD WHEREAS CLAUSE, LANGUAGE SUGGESTED BY THE ACLU
04:24:46PM ATTORNEY.
04:24:46PM READS, WHEREAS, THE CITY COUNCIL BELIEVES IT IS NECESSARY TO
04:24:50PM AMEND THE LANGUAGE TO APPLY FOR A CRB LEGAL ADVISOR NOT A
04:24:54PM CITY EMPLOYEE IN ORDER TO -- I ADDED HIS LANGUAGE WHICH WAS
04:25:00PM ENHANCE THE PUBLIC'S CONFIDENCE IN THE DETERMINATIONS MADE
04:25:03PM BY THE CRB AS FREED FROM OUTSIDE INFLUENCE.
04:25:06PM ON THE SECOND PAGE, THIS IS WHEN WE CHANGED IT TO TAKE OUT
04:25:21PM THE FORMER LANGUAGE THAT WAS THE -- THAT IS IN THE CODE NOW
04:25:25PM ABOUT AN ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY SERVING AS THE LEGAL
04:25:28PM ADVISOR.
04:25:29PM AND ALSO THE LANGUAGE THAT I HAVE SUGGESTED ABOUT THE CRB
04:25:33PM VOTING.
04:25:34PM INSTEAD NOW IT READS, THE CRB SHOULD BE REPRESENTED BY AN
04:25:38PM ATTORNEY WHO IS NOT A CITY EMPLOYEE AND THE CITY OF TAMPA
04:25:42PM SHALL RETAIN THAT ATTORNEY AS FOLLOWS.
04:25:47PM AND THEN, AGAIN IN RESPONSES TO YOUR MOTION, SUBSECTIONS C,
04:25:56PM YOU HAD ME REWRITE IT TO SAY THE CRB MAY ESTABLISH
04:26:00PM PROCEDURES TO SELECT ITS LEGAL ADVISOR.
04:26:02PM SORRY, I AM READING THE RED LINE AND HARD TO READ.
04:26:06PM THEN IN D, YOU HAD ME CHANGE IT TO SAY -- I HAD WRITTEN IT
04:26:13PM TO SAY THE CITY ATTORNEY SHALL SELECT THE CRB LEGAL ADVISOR.
04:26:17PM YOU HAD ME CHANGE IT TO SAY THE CITY ATTORNEY SHALL HIRE
04:26:20PM THE CRB LEGAL ADVISOR BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF
04:26:25PM THE CRB.
04:26:25PM AND THEN ON THE LAST PAGE, AGAIN, THAT THE ACLU ATTORNEY'S
04:26:37PM SUGGESTION, I WRITTEN THE CRB LEGAL ADVISOR WILL BE REMOVED
04:26:41PM AS A MAJORITY VOTE FROM THE CRB.
04:26:43PM HE MADE THE POINT IF HE HAD A QUORUM AT THE MEETING BUT --
04:26:49PM BUT THOSE PRESENT WEREN'T ENOUGH WHERE EVEN IF THEY ALL
04:26:53PM VOTED OR IF THERE WAS SOME VOTE, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY
04:26:56PM CONSTITUTE A MAJORITY OF THE CRB AS A WHOLE.
04:26:59PM SO I ADDED THE WORDS -- MAJORITY VOTE AT A MEETING.
04:27:04PM SO AS LONG AS A MAJORITY OF THOSE PRESENT AT A MEETING AT
04:27:07PM WHICH THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT, BECAUSE IF THERE ISN'T A
04:27:10PM QUORUM PRESENT, THEY CAN'T PROCEED, THEY CAN -- AND THAT IS
04:27:13PM THE LANGUAGE ABOUT WHERE THE CRB CAN REMOVE THE CRB
04:27:20PM ATTORNEY, AGAIN, SUBJECT TO CONCURRENCE OF COUNCIL, THE CITY
04:27:24PM COUNCIL.
04:27:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHOWING THOSE AGAIN.
04:27:28PM I THINK THAT HELPS CLARIFY IT FOR THE PUBLIC.
04:27:30PM SO I AM HAPPY TO READ THE ORDINANCE UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAVE
04:27:34PM SOMETHING TO SAY.
04:27:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:27:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY.
04:27:40PM THANK YOU, MISS ZELMAN, FOR WORKING ON THIS.
04:27:43PM THREE OR FOUR THINGS IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS WHERE THE
04:27:46PM COMMUNITY WANTS THE ADMINISTRATION AND CITY COUNCIL TO GET
04:27:48PM ALONG.
04:27:49PM ANOTHER GREAT EXAMPLE OF US WORKING TOGETHER AND LISTENING
04:27:53PM TO THE COMMUNITY TO GET THINGS DONE.
04:27:54PM LASTLY, I DON'T THINK THIS IS CONTROVERSIAL.
04:27:56PM AND FOR ANYBODY -- ANYBODY ON ANY SIDE, THEY SHOULD BE HAPPY
04:28:01PM THERE IS EVEN MORE BUILT-IN OBJECTIVITY IF YOU ARE SOMETHING
04:28:07PM THAT IS LOOKING FOR GOOD GOVERNMENT.
04:28:09PM OBJECTIVITY.
04:28:11PM SOMEBODY ACCUSED OF SOMETHING AND TRYING TO BE PROTECTED,
04:28:16PM THERE IS OBJECTIVITY AND THANK YOU FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE
04:28:18PM PUBLIC WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING EIGHT HOURS FOR THIS TO COME
04:28:21PM THROUGH.
04:28:21PM THANK YOU.
04:28:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: ALSO, IF I MAY.
04:28:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:28:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO OPINE ON THIS.
04:28:29PM I VOTED FOR THIS SEVERAL TIMES AND I WILL VOTE IT AGAIN.
04:28:32PM A REASONABLE STEP LIKE I SAID BEFORE.
04:28:35PM NO, SIR NONCONTROVERSIAL.
04:28:36PM I MADE MY POSITION FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS ON SOME OF THESE
04:28:41PM ISSUES THAT HAVE COME FORWARD.
04:28:42PM I ALWAYS SAID IT IS REASONABLE.
04:28:45PM I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
04:28:47PM AND I REALLY LIKE THE STEPS THAT MISS ZELMAN IN HER OFFICE
04:28:50PM HAVE TAKEN JUST SOME COMMONSENSE SAFEGUARDS, MAYBE THINGS WE
04:28:57PM DIDN'T THINK ABOUT, ETC., THAT ARE THERE FROM A MONETARY
04:29:00PM PERSPECTIVE, MAKING SURE WE GET AN ATTORNEY WHERE A
04:29:03PM REQUISITE EXPERIENCE, ETC.
04:29:04PM AGAIN, THIS IS VERY REASONABLE AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD
04:29:09PM WORK ON THIS.
04:29:09PM THANK YOU.
04:29:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYONE ELSE?
04:29:16PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:29:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER E 2023-8 CHAPTER 18.
04:29:21PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
04:29:25PM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING SECTION
04:29:30PM 18-8H 6 CITY OF TAMPA CODE TO PROVIDE FOR A CITIZEN REVIEW
04:29:36PM BOARD LEGAL ADVISOR WHO IS NOT A CITY EMPLOYEE, PROVIDING
04:29:40PM FOR SERVICEABILITY, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES CONFLICT
04:29:45PM HEREWITH PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
04:29:47PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: SECOND.
04:29:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND SECONDED
04:29:50PM BY GUDES.
04:29:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
04:29:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:29:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
04:29:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
04:29:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
04:29:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:29:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: NO.
04:30:00PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO, MIRANDA AND CITRO
04:30:04PM VOTING NO.
04:30:05PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON APRIL 6, 2023 AT 9:30
04:30:10PM A.M.
04:30:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
04:30:11PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:30:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
04:30:14PM YOU HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY.
04:30:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE 26-32.
04:30:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:30:21PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:30:22PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:30:23PM OPPOSE?
04:30:25PM MOTION CARRIES.
04:30:26PM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:30:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I MOVE.
04:30:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
04:30:31PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:30:33PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:30:34PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:30:36PM OPPOSED?
04:30:37PM MOTION CARRIES.
04:30:38PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:30:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I MOVE ITEMS 44-56.
04:30:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
04:30:44PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ST. MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:30:46PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:30:47PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:30:48PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:30:50PM MOTION CARRIES.
04:30:50PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:30:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEM 57-63.
04:30:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
04:30:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED
04:30:58PM BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:30:59PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:31:00PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:31:03PM MOTION CARRIES.
04:31:04PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:31:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF ON 72 AND 7337 MOVE
04:31:09PM 64 TO 78 MINUS 72 AND 73.
04:31:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TOP ANNOUNCE.
04:31:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL DO IT IN A SECOND.
04:31:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED
04:31:21PM BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:31:22PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:31:24PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:31:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: ON 73 AND 37, I WOULD LIKE TO FILE MY FORM
04:31:30PM 8B ON EACH OF THESE.
04:31:31PM THE COMPANY OF WHICH I AM RETAINED DOES BUSINESS WITH AN
04:31:35PM ENTITY THAT MAY HAVE AN INTEREST IN THIS.
04:31:36PM JUST SO PEOPLE KNOW FOR THE FUTURE MAILERS, MY COMPANY HAS
04:31:40PM NO PARTICIPATION AT ALL IN EITHER OF THESE MATTERS BUT IN A
04:31:45PM ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, LEGAL SAID FOR ME TO ABSTAIN.
04:31:50PM >> MOTION.
04:31:55PM >> SECOND.
04:31:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEM 72 AND 73.
04:32:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
04:32:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:32:04PM >> SECOND.
04:32:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
04:32:07PM MANISCALCO.
04:32:07PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:32:10PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:32:10PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:32:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANNOUNCE THAT PLEASE FOR THE RECORD, MADAM
04:32:17PM CLERK.
04:32:17PM THE TWO -- THE VOTE ON THOSE TWO ITEMS 72 AND 73.
04:32:22PM >>CLERK: TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:32:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT ABSOLUTELY STAIN.
04:32:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVEN'T VOTED YET.
04:32:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT IS LATE, I AM SORRY, FORGIVE ME.
04:32:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 72 AND 73.
04:32:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:32:35PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MANISCALCO.
04:32:38PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:32:40PM OPPOSED?
04:32:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE 79-84.
04:32:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
04:32:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:32:48PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:32:50PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:32:52PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:32:53PM MOTION CARRIES.
04:32:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE DIDN'T 85, THAT IS SET REVIEW FOR
04:32:59PM MAY 20, 2023 AT 10:30.
04:33:05PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND SECONDED
04:33:07PM BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:33:08PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:33:09PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:33:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL RIGHT.
04:33:16PM INFORMATION REPORTS.
04:33:18PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:33:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE, SIR.
04:33:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES?
04:33:27PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:33:28PM I WOULD LIKE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO BRING US AN UPDATE.
04:33:33PM SEVERAL MEETINGS REGARDING EAST TAMPA REGIONAL COMPLEX.
04:33:37PM I WANT TO PERSONALLY APOLOGIZE TO YOU, COUNCILMAN.
04:33:40PM I UNDERSTAND YOU WERE DISRESPECTED THE OTHER NIGHT.
04:33:43PM AND SEVERAL PHONE CALLS ABOUT THAT.
04:33:45PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL HAPPENED, SO, OF COURSE, I COULDN'T --
04:33:50PM FOR SUNSHINE, I COULDN'T CALL TO ASK YOU ABOUT IT.
04:33:52PM BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU WERE DISRESPECTED BY -- I GUESS THE
04:33:57PM PRESENTERS OR WHOEVER IS OVER THERE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE
04:34:03PM UPSET AND I WANT TO PERSONALLY APOLOGIZE TO YOU.
04:34:05PM IT IS MY DISTRICT.
04:34:07PM WE HAD INDIFFERENCES WITH THE SKANZA GROUP.
04:34:14PM I UNDERSTAND THE OUTREACH IS NOT SUFFICIENT BECAUSE
04:34:17PM CONCENTRATED ON THE WHOLE AREA AND NOT THE WHOLE EAST TAMPA.
04:34:20PM I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR YOU.
04:34:22PM AND FOR THE LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT TO COME BACK WITH
04:34:25PM AN UPDATE ON THE PROJECT.
04:34:26PM PEOPLE ARE WONDERING WHEN THE DIRT WILL BE SHOVELED.
04:34:29PM WE DON'T NEED THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
04:34:32PM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH NOW.
04:34:33PM AND WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
04:34:35PM ENOUGH IT ENOUGH.
04:34:36PM WE KNOW WHAT THEY WANTED.
04:34:37PM THEY ALREADY TOLD US WHAT THEY WANTED.
04:34:40PM PROGRAMMING, YOU CAN DO LATER BUT THE GIST OF IT AND THE
04:34:43PM BUILDING AND NEED IT MOVING.
04:34:44PM IF WE CAN GET AN UPDATE ON THAT PROJECT BEFORE -- WHAT --
04:34:48PM THE SOONER WE ARE GET IF IN APRIL BEFORE I GET OUT OF.
04:34:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APRIL 20 IS A REGULAR MEETING BUT BUSY.
04:34:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: APRIL 6.
04:34:58PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: APRIL 6, BRING AN UPDATE THE EAST TAMPA
04:35:01PM REGIONAL COMPLEX.
04:35:03PM WE NEED A COMPLETE UPDATE ON THAT.
04:35:05PM COMMUNITIES ARE GETTING ALL KIND OF MIXED INFORMATION,
04:35:08PM TALKING ABOUT BEING BUILT IN 2027, 2029.
04:35:11PM ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS WE ARE HEARING.
04:35:13PM WE NEED A COMPLETE UPDATE ON THE PROJECT.
04:35:16PM AND, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE THE OTHER NIGHT BECAUSE YOU WERE
04:35:20PM VERY DISRESPECTED THE OTHER NIGHT OF THE PRESENTERS OF THE
04:35:25PM PROJECT.
04:35:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
04:35:27PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
04:35:29PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:35:32PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:35:32PM ANY OPPOSE?
04:35:34PM MOTION CARRIED.
04:35:36PM IS THAT ALL?
04:35:38PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YES.
04:35:39PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:35:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
04:35:41PM STAFF HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE FOR FILE NUMBER CM
04:35:48PM 21-71562, SIRE ITEM NUMBER 7, 8, 834.
04:35:53PM A SWAT ANALYSIS AND HOW THE TENANT OFFICE IS DOING AND IF
04:36:01PM THERE ARE ANY AREAS WHERE CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE.
04:36:04PM I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO APRIL 20, 2023 TO MAY 4,
04:36:09PM 2023.
04:36:10PM >> SECOND.
04:36:12PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:36:13PM ACTED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:36:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:36:18PM OPPOSED.
04:36:19PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:36:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY SINCERELY OF THE CASTOR FAMILY FROM
04:36:26PM THE PASSING OF SAM BELL.
04:36:27PM SEVERAL COUNCILMEMBERS DID MAKE STATEMENTS, BUT I WOULD LIKE
04:36:30PM TO REQUEST THAT YOU, AS THE CHAIR, REPRESENTING THE COUNCIL
04:36:34PM SEND A LETTER OF CONDOLENCES TO THE HONORABLE BETTY CASTOR
04:36:38PM AND U.S. CONGRESSWOMAN KATHY CASTOR.
04:36:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
04:36:46PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND
04:36:48PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:36:49PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:36:50PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:36:52PM MOTION CARRIES.
04:36:53PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:36:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A WORKSHOP IN APRIL ON ELECTIONS AND
04:37:00PM THE GENTLEMAN WHO IS HELPING ME ON IT MATT NEWTON HAS A
04:37:04PM CONFLICT.
04:37:05PM MOVE IT TO THE MAY WORKSHOP.
04:37:08PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECONDED BY
04:37:11PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:37:12PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:37:13PM ANY OPPOSED.
04:37:15PM JOSH FELDER, A NEW MOVIE WITH WOODY HARRELSON AND JOSH THAT
04:37:21PM MARTY GO THE TO MEET.
04:37:22PM HE IS FROM TAMPA AND HE IS ON THE COVER OF THE POSTER WITH
04:37:25PM WOODY HARRELSON BY IS SO COOL.
04:37:28PM JOSH IS A GENTLEMAN WITH AUTISM AND A REALLY, REALLY NICE
04:37:32PM GUY.
04:37:32PM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HIM BE PUBLICLY RECOGNIZED OF THIS ON
04:37:36PM CITY COUNCIL ON APRIL 20, IF I MAY.
04:37:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:37:40PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:37:43PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:37:44PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:37:47PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:37:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE THREE.
04:37:49PM ONE CAME UP BEFORE AND TWO CAME UP TODAY.
04:37:51PM I WILL PROPOSE DRAFT ORDINANCES ON EACH ONE OF THEM.
04:37:56PM AND I WILL ASK THAT IF YOU WILL DON'T -- IF YOU HAVE
04:38:00PM QUESTIONS ABOUT IT OR NOT SURE, IF YOU COULD JUST APPROVE
04:38:03PM PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA AND YOU CAN ALWAYS VOTE DOWN THE
04:38:06PM DRAFT ORDINANCE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
04:38:07PM THE FIRST ONE IS -- THAT -- -- A FEW MONTHS AGO WE APPROVED
04:38:13PM AT THAT WHOLE BASKET OF LAW FIRMS THAT WILL BE ABLE TO WORK
04:38:16PM WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
04:38:17PM THE PROBLEM IS THAT POTENTIALLY SETS UP CONFLICTS OF
04:38:21PM INTEREST.
04:38:21PM IN TALKING TO A WHOLE BUNCH OF ATTORNEYS.
04:38:24PM THERE ARE -- THERE IS A THING CALLED THE CONFLICT OF
04:38:28PM INTEREST WAIVER THAT THE CITY HAS TO GIVE TO FIRMS.
04:38:33PM SOME OF THE LAW FIRMS THAT ARE REPRESENTING THE CITY ARE
04:38:36PM ALSO SUING THE CITY AND A WAIVER HAS TO BE GIVEN.
04:38:39PM BY THE LEGAL DEFINITION I HAVE GOTTEN SEASON A CONTRACT.
04:38:42PM SO THOSE REALLY SHOULD COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR
04:38:45PM APPROVAL.
04:38:45PM THE FIRST ONE IS -- I MAKE A MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO RETURN
04:38:49PM ON JUNE 1 WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WILL REQUIRE THE LEGAL
04:38:53PM DEPARTMENT TO BRING LAW FIRM CONFLICT OF INTEREST WAIVERS TO
04:38:57PM CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.
04:38:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
04:39:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:39:02PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:39:04PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:39:05PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:39:06PM MOTION CARRIES.
04:39:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND ONE IS THIS ISSUE THAT WE
04:39:11PM DISCUSSED TODAY OF PENDING LITIGATION.
04:39:13PM AND LEGAL CAN SHOOT IT DOWN, BUT I THINK IT IS WORTH TRYING
04:39:17PM TO BRING THIS BACK ON THE SAME DAY.
04:39:20PM THIS IS ABOUT DISCUSSING PENDING LITIGATION.
04:39:24PM MOTION TO ASK THE CITY STAFF TO RETURN ON JUNE 1 WITH A
04:39:28PM DRAFT ORDINANCE TO REQUIRE THAT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND
04:39:31PM CITY STAFF REFRAIN FROM DISCUSSING PENDING LITIGATION OR
04:39:35PM PUBLICLY OR THE -- OR THE THREAT OF PENDING LITIGATION.
04:39:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
04:39:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY?
04:39:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:39:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: AS A COURTESY.
04:39:49PM GLAD THEY ARE BRINGING IT BACK FOR DISCUSSION AND I DON'T
04:39:52PM KNOW THE LOGISTICS, BUT THAT IS FINE.
04:39:54PM MY QUALIFIED VOTE, IF YOU WILL.
04:39:56PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:39:59PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
04:40:00PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:40:02PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:40:04PM MOTION CARRIES.
04:40:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
04:40:06PM THE THIRD ONE GETS TO SOMETHING WE DISCUSSED BEFORE AND I
04:40:09PM CAN GO INTO DETAILS IF YOU WANT.
04:40:10PM ALL THE ADVICE I HAVE GOTTEN THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE
04:40:13PM CHARTER, THE CHARTER CLEARLY SAYS THAT CITY COUNCIL IS THE
04:40:18PM CLIENT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND SAYS THAT EACH OF US
04:40:20PM INDIVIDUALLY IS A CLIENT OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
04:40:22PM IT SAYS THAT IN THE CHARTER.
04:40:24PM IN A NORMAL ATTORNEY-CLIENT RELATIONSHIP, THE -- THE LAWYER
04:40:29PM THAT REPRESENTS YOU WOULD NOT SAY ANYTHING TO THE MEDIA OR
04:40:32PM TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT YOU.
04:40:34PM ESPECIALLY IF IT IS DEFAMATORY OR WHAT IS CALLED EXTRA
04:40:38PM JUDICIAL PREJUDICIAL COMMENT WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF YOUR
04:40:42PM CLIENT.
04:40:43PM SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO ASK CITY
04:40:46PM STAFF TO RETURN ON WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE
04:40:52PM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FROM MAKING VERBAL DEFAMATORY OR
04:40:57PM COMMENTS ABOUT CITY COUNCIL WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL FROM CITY
04:41:02PM COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR.
04:41:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SAY THAT AGAIN?
04:41:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING.
04:41:08PM IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE ME -- SAY BEING BAD ABOUT ME, LET
04:41:13PM THEM DO IT.
04:41:14PM I AM NOT AFRAID OF THAT.
04:41:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE DIFFERENCE --
04:41:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL SUE THE LIVING -- OUT OF THEM.
04:41:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE DIFFERENCE IS -- IF IT IS LAWYERS
04:41:27PM REPRESENTING THE -- THE CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
04:41:30PM AND SO SOMETIMES THERE ARE MEMOS THAT ARE WRITTEN THAT --
04:41:33PM THAT ONE COULD CONSTRUE AS BEING DEFAMATORY.
04:41:37PM THE IDEA IS TO PREVENT LAWSUITS.
04:41:40PM IF WE HAVE THIS IN PLACE, IT WILL PREVENT ANY KIND OF
04:41:46PM LITIGATION.
04:41:46PM THE IDEA IS IN ESSENCE THE SIMPLE VERSION OF IT, THE LEGAL
04:41:51PM TEAM CANNOT SPEAK OUT OF SCHOOL ABOUT THEIR CLIENTS WITHOUT
04:41:55PM THE CLIENTS' APPROVAL WHICH IS WHAT THE NORMAL
04:41:58PM ATTORNEY-CLIENT RELATIONSHIP IS.
04:42:00PM YOU WANT ME TO READ IT AGAIN.
04:42:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT SOUNDS FAIR.
04:42:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: NOTION ASK CITY STAFF TO RETURN ON JUNE 1
04:42:08PM WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE REQUIRE THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO
04:42:11PM REFRAIN FROM MAKING VERBAL OR WRITTEN DEFAMATORY OR COMMENTS
04:42:16PM OF CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL OR THE MAY HAVE I DON'T REMEMBER
04:42:19PM WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL FROM CITY COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR.
04:42:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE.
04:42:23PM IF SOMEBODY ACCUSES ME OF SOMETHING AND THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT
04:42:27PM KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT IT?
04:42:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE THEY REPRESENT US, THEY WOULDN'T
04:42:33PM MAKE A COMMENT WITHOUT HAVING IT APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL
04:42:35PM AND THE MAYOR.
04:42:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY,
04:42:39PM MR. CARLSON.
04:42:40PM THAT MEANS THEN WE CAN SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
04:42:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN INDIVIDUALLY SAY SOMETHING, BUT THE
04:42:45PM -- THE --
04:42:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE LAWYERS CAN'T.
04:42:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: DIFFERENCE IN THE PAST TO SOME EXTENT, THE
04:42:51PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN USED KIND OF LIKE JUDGE AND JURY
04:42:54PM AND SHOULD BE A LEGAL DEPARTMENT GIVING LEGAL ADVICE.
04:42:57PM AND I THINK WE HAVE SEEN THE COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH
04:43:01PM MISS ZELMAN IT HAS BEEN LIKE THAT.
04:43:03PM BUT JUST THE NORMAL ATTORNEY-CLIENT RELATIONSHIP AN ATTORNEY
04:43:07PM WOULD NOT SAY SOMETHING OUT OF SCHOOL ABOUT THE CLIENT
04:43:10PM WITHOUT THEIR CLIENT'S APPROVAL AND IN THIS CASE IT MAKES IT
04:43:13PM CLEAR SO SOMEBODY DOESN'T HAVE TO FILE A BAR COMPLAINT.
04:43:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL VOTE FOR IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
04:43:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, SECOND.
04:43:21PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED BY
04:43:27PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:43:28PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:43:29PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:43:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANYTHING ELSE?
04:43:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S IT.
04:43:34PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I HAVE NOTHING.
04:43:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:43:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
04:43:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:43:41PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:43:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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