TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 27, 2023
9:00 A.M.
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09:04:48AM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:04:53AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL
09:04:55AM MEETING HELD TODAY, APRIL 27, 2023.
09:04:59AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DO YOU HAVE INVOCATION?
09:05:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SIR.
09:05:03AM I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME RABBI MICHAEL WEISS.
09:05:10AM ASSISTANT RABBI.
09:05:12AM HE WAS ORDAINED AS A RABBI FROM HEBREW UNION COLLEGE IN
09:05:17AM CINCINNATI IN MAY 2020 AND SERVED AS A STUDENT RABBI IN
09:05:21AM RICHMOND, INDIANA AND SIOUX FALLS, SOUTH DAKOTA AND RABBINIC
09:05:27AM INTERN AT ROCKDALE TEMPLE IN CINCINNATI.
09:05:30AM AFTER BEING ORDAINED DURING THE PANDEMIC, RABBI WEISS HAS
09:05:35AM FOUND CREATIVE WAYS TO CONNECT PEOPLE WITH LEARNING AND
09:05:38AM PRAYER.
09:05:39AM RABBI WEISS IS DEEPLY COMMITTED TO ACCOMPANYING PEOPLE ON
09:05:44AM THEIR JEWISH JOURNEYS.
09:05:46AM AND LOVE, PRAYER AND KINDNESS AND ACTS OF JUSTICE.
09:05:50AM RABBI, IF YOU CAN GIVE THE INVOCATION.
09:05:53AM WE WILL ALL STAND AND GIVE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AFTER.
09:05:57AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:06:02AM AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
09:06:05AM ONE OF JUDAISM HOLIEST PRAYERS IS THE SESAME, THE
09:06:11AM DECLARATION OF FAITH.
09:06:12AM HERE ISRAEL ONIAS IS TODAY, RECITATION IS STRICTLY MANDATED
09:06:19AM BY JEWISH LAW TWICE A DAY IN THE MORNING AND EVENING AS
09:06:23AM WITH MANY THINGS A STORY THAT DARES US TO QUESTION THIS
09:06:26AM NORM.
09:06:26AM WE ARE TOLD RABBI JUDAH WAS WALKING BEHIND HIS TEACHERS.
09:06:33AM THE SUN BEGAN TO RISE AND THE TIME TO RECITE THE SHEMA HAS
09:06:39AM ARRIVED AND RABBI JUDAH FOUND THAT NEITHER OF THE TEACHER
09:06:43AM STOPPED THEIR CONVERSATION.
09:06:43AM THEY CONTINUED WALKING AND TALKING EVEN AS THEIR RELIGIOUS
09:06:47AM DUTIES WERE PRESSING.
09:06:48AM HE SPED UP TO CATCH THEM AND SAID, MY TEACHER, IT IS TIME TO
09:06:52AM RECITE THE SHEMA, SHOULD WE NOT PAUSE?
09:06:55AM THE TWO RABBIS TURNED TO HIM AND TOLD THEM TO LEAVE THEM
09:06:59AM ALONE BECAUSE THEY WERE BUSY DISCUSSING THE NEEDS OF THE
09:07:02AM COMMUNITY.
09:07:02AM WHAT DOES THIS TEACH US?
09:07:03AM THAT EVEN OUR MOST IMPORTANT OBLIGATIONS, EVEN THOSE
09:07:07AM OBLIGATIONS TO GOD TAKE A BACK SEAT TO ENSURING THAT WE
09:07:10AM PROVIDE FOR THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, TO TACKLING THE VERY
09:07:14AM REAL PROBLEMS THAT OUR PEOPLE FACE.
09:07:16AM WHAT YOU DO IN HERE IS HOLY WORK.
09:07:19AM AND OUR PEOPLE HAVE PUT THEIR SACRED TRUST IN YOU.
09:07:22AM AND SO I WILL OFFER A BLESSING FROM OUR TRADITION FOR THOSE
09:07:26AM WHO NIGHT AND DAY PUT THE NEEDS OF YOUR NEIGHBORS FIRST.
09:07:29AM BARUK ALANI.
09:07:34AM [RECITING]
09:07:42AM FULL OF BLESSING YOU ARE ETERNAL ONE OUR GOD, MAJESTY OF THE
09:07:48AM UNIVERSE GIVEN US PATHWAYS TO HOLINESS AND COMMANDED US TO
09:07:52AM OCCUPY OURSELVES WITH THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY.
09:07:54AM MAY GOD BE WITH YOU AND SUPPORT YOU ALL OF THE DAYS OF YOUR
09:07:58AM SERVICE.
09:07:58AM AND MAY YOU SEE THE DIVINE PRESENCE IN ALL OF THE PEOPLE
09:08:01AM THAT YOU SERVE.
09:08:02AM AND WE CAN SAY TOGETHER, AMEN.
09:08:05AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:08:20AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:08:21AM PLEASE BE SEATED.
09:08:23AM ROLL CALL.
09:08:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:08:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:08:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:08:32AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
09:08:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:08:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
09:08:36AM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:08:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WE HAVE SOME
09:08:41AM SPECIAL GUESTS WITH US TODAY.
09:08:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:08:43AM I WANT TO -- THANK YOU, SIR.
09:08:45AM I WANTED TO THANK JOSH BERGEN AND TRAVIS HORN FOR BRINGING A
09:08:49AM DELEGATION FROM ROMANIA -- ROMANIAN GUESTS, WILL YOU PLEASE
09:08:53AM STAND UP.
09:08:54AM WE HAVE BUSINESS LEADERS AND A SITTING MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT,
09:08:59AM A SITTING CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, AND MINISTER OF TRADE,
09:09:03AM SEVERAL OTHER KEY FOLKS FROM ROMANIA.
09:09:06AM I HAVE BEEN TO ROMANIA BRIEFLY.
09:09:08AM BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY.
09:09:08AM LOTS OF GREAT POTENTIAL ECONOMIC TIES WITH TAMPA.
09:09:12AM SO I WANT TO WELCOME YOU ALL HERE.
09:09:14AM THEY WILL SIT IN FOR A FEW MINUTES AND THEN LEAVE.
09:09:16AM I ASKED THEM TO STAY IN PARTICULAR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH
09:09:19AM IS ALWAYS A GOOD TIME TO HEAR OUR VERSION OF DEMOCRACY.
09:09:23AM THANK YOU ALL FOR VISITING.
09:09:23AM [APPLAUSE]
09:09:30AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
09:09:32AM THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR MORNING WITH US.
09:09:34AM WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:09:40AM IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE
09:09:48AM APPROACH THE PODIUM, STATE YOUR NAME, AND YOU WILL BE GIVEN
09:09:53AM THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
09:09:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE YOU SPEAK, LET ME LET EVERYBODY
09:10:10AM KNOW THAT TODAY IS YOUR BIRTHDAY, AND WE WISH YOU A VERY
09:10:13AM HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
09:10:13AM [APPLAUSE]
09:10:15AM >> THANK YOU.
09:10:16AM HELLO.
09:10:19AM I AM SALLYISE LEE WITH THE VOLUNTEER MISSIONARY SOCIETY.
09:10:25AM AND I WANT TO SHARE A FEW WORDS WITH YOU.
09:10:28AM THE BLACK BUSINESS TOUR WAS TO CELEBRATE SPLENTABULOUS
09:10:36AM CULTURAL FESTIVAL.
09:10:37AM BLACK WOMEN UNITED.
09:10:38AM WE HAD A WONDERFUL DAY AND WENT TO THE WEST SHORE -- THANK
09:10:45AM YOU -- GREAT ACHIEVEMENTS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN
09:10:47AM THE ECONOMIC ENTERPRISE.
09:10:49AM AT THE END, I HAD MADE MY HOMELESS ROUNDS AFTER WE GOT
09:10:56AM TO TAMPA PLAZA TO THE BOOK STORE.
09:10:58AM AND I WAS OVER THERE TALKING TO THE HOMELESS, AND THEY WERE
09:11:03AM TELLING ME ABOUT RESOURCES AND PLACES FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE TO
09:11:08AM GO TO GET HELP.
09:11:09AM SO ST. PETER AT CLAY STREET.
09:11:13AM WE THANK GOD FOR ALL THE FOLLOWERS OF GOD WILLING TO LEND A
09:11:21AM HAND FOR THE POOR FOR A HOT MEAL AND OTHER RESOURCES.
09:11:25AM AND THE LAST DAY OF SERVICE, I TOOK A WALK ACROSS THE BRIDGE
09:11:31AM AND RAN INTO THIS HOLINESS CHURCH LUTZ.
09:11:41AM THEY WERE OUT HELPING AND THE POWER OF GOD FELL ON US, AND WE
09:11:45AM HAD A GOOD TIME.
09:11:45AM SO I AM GOING TO MAKE THIS BRIEF.
09:11:48AM I WENT TO THE CDC LAST EVENING.
09:11:53AM TO THE "WE MEANING BUSINESS" WORKSHOP LOOKING FOR HOUSING
09:11:58AM INFORMATION.
09:11:59AM AND THEY INVITED ME.
09:12:01AM SO I -- CALVIN AND I HAD A FEW WORDS.
09:12:07AM HE HUNG UP AND BY THEN IT WAS DARK.
09:12:09AM THERE WERE FIVE GUYS COMING AT ME.
09:12:12AM AND OUT OF NOWHERE, A SHERIFF DEPUTY ROLLED UP RIGHT WHERE I
09:12:19AM WAS WALKING IN THE DARK.
09:12:20AM AND I STARTED TO HAVE FEAR, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE $2 JUST FOR THE
09:12:27AM BUS.
09:12:27AM WHEN I WAS WALKING IN THE DARK, I NOTICED ALL THE WOMEN OUT
09:12:31AM THERE THAT ARE TRYING TO GET HOME FROM WORK.
09:12:34AM AND IT WAS NOT ONE -- NO KIND OF PUBLIC SAFETY PERSON IN
09:12:39AM SIGHT.
09:12:42AM AND IT WAS REALLY A BAD FEELING FOR WOMEN TRYING TO GET HOME
09:12:47AM OUT OF THE DARK.
09:12:49AM SLEEPING IN BUSHES MY AGE.
09:12:53AM AND ON THE BACK PORCHES OF BUSINESSES.
09:12:57AM AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WOMEN IN THE DARK -- AND WE NEED
09:13:04AM PRAYER IN SCHOOL AND NOT GUNS.
09:13:08AM AND I JUST THANK GOD FOR MY LIFE TODAY.
09:13:11AM I DIDN'T GET TO FINISH, BUT THE BALL IS NOT IN THE HANDS.
09:13:16AM I AM WAITING ON CHIEF BENNETT AND HIS ASSOCIATE GWEN MILLER.
09:13:21AM AND I HOPE HE DON'T FORGET ABOUT ME BECAUSE THIS CENTER IS
09:13:25AM MUCH NEEDED TO HELP WOMEN GET REFERRALS, FIND OUT ABOUT
09:13:29AM RESOURCES.
09:13:30AM AND I JUST THANK GOD FOR MY LIFE, AND I HOPE HE DON'T FORGET
09:13:35AM ME.
09:13:35AM THANK YOU.
09:13:36AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:13:37AM >> GOOD MORNING, KEELA McCASKILL.
09:13:47AM I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU.
09:13:50AM FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE LEAVING AND THOSE WHO ARE
09:13:53AM REAPPOINTED TO YOUR ROLES.
09:13:55AM I PONDERED FOR WEEKS.
09:13:56AM WHAT DO YOU SAY TO ONE OF THE LEAVING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS
09:14:02AM FOR THE DEDICATION, HARD WORK, COMMITMENT AND SACRIFICES
09:14:05AM THAT THEY MADE IN THEIR ROLE AS A CITY COUNCILMEMBER.
09:14:10AM YOU KNOW SOME OF YOU THAT RESTORED MY BELIEF IN COMING
09:14:14AM THROUGH TO THE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO MAKE SOME THINGS HAPPEN.
09:14:17AM SOME OF YOU MAKE SACRIFICES, AND I KNOW THEY SAY NOT TO SAY
09:14:21AM THEIR NAMES, BUT SOMETIMES THEY DO SO MUCH.
09:14:23AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON SPENDS HIS OWN MONEY TO GET THE
09:14:29AM TEMPERATURE IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:14:30AM TWO TIMES IN THE MONTH -- ACTUALLY FOUR TIMES IF YOU GO TO
09:14:34AM ONE OF THE EVENTS AND THE OTHER ONE SEPARATE.
09:14:38AM COUNCILMEMBER LYNN HURTAK.
09:14:41AM ALL YOU DO.
09:14:42AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:14:44AM YOU HAVE DONE A LOT.
09:14:44AM ALL OF YOU HAVE DONE SO MUCH AND COUNCILMAN GUDES, YOU HAVE
09:14:48AM SACRIFICED.
09:14:49AM PEOPLE -- YOU HAVE DONE SO MUCH AND BEEN SO MANY THINGS FOR
09:14:52AM SO MANY PEOPLE.
09:14:53AM I PONDER WHAT DO YOU SAY.
09:14:55AM WHAT DO YOU SAY?
09:14:56AM WHAT DO YOU SAY WHEN THEY EXIT.
09:14:58AM THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY GENUINELY IS TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:15:01AM CONTINUOUSLY.
09:15:03AM OVERWHELM YOU WITH THANKS AND ARTICULATE IT VERBALLY,
09:15:08AM PUBLICLY, DO IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
09:15:11AM BECAUSE YOU ALL DON'T HEAR IT ENOUGH.
09:15:12AM FOR ALL OF YOU THANK YOU.
09:15:14AM SPECIFICALLY TO YOU HEARTFELT THANK YOU.
09:15:17AM I WANT TO KNOW WHAT DO YOU DO?
09:15:19AM BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE DO ENOUGH.
09:15:20AM WE DON'T DO ENOUGH FOR THOSE WHO SACRIFICE THEIR TIME, MONEY
09:15:24AM AND RESOURCES AND DEDICATED TO THE ROLE THAT YOU SIGNED UP
09:15:27AM FOR.
09:15:27AM WE VOTED YOU IN.
09:15:28AM YOU ALL HAVE DEFINITELY PERFORMED TO AT LEAST SATISFACTION.
09:15:33AM NOW WHAT DO WE DO AFTER 5:00 TODAY.
09:15:36AM WE CAN NOT GIVE YOU GIFTS.
09:15:37AM MOST OF YOU WON'T EVEN ACCEPT A CUP OF COFFEE OR A BOTTLE OF
09:15:42AM WATER BUT AFTER 5:00, WE GET TO SHOWER YOU WITH GIFTS.
09:15:46AM I RECEIVED SOME.
09:15:48AM CARDS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
09:15:49AM THEY WANT TO TOAST YOU ON YOUR SUCCESS IN THE FOUR-YEAR
09:15:54AM JOURNEY.
09:15:54AM YOU LEFT SO MUCH SEED AND GROW AND DEVELOP AS YOU SEE FIT.
09:15:58AM AND WE TRY TO DO A BETTER JOB TO BE A UNIFIED COMMUNITY TO
09:16:02AM DO MORE FOR THE DISTRICT THAT YOU WORK SO HARD FOR.
09:16:04AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR SAYING FAREWELL.
09:16:08AM I THINK WE CAN GIVE YOU THOSE GIFTS AFTER 5:00 TODAY.
09:16:12AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:16:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, IF I MAY, FORGIVE ME FOR
09:16:21AM INTERRUPTING.
09:16:21AM I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE AUDIENCE TO BRING TO YOUR
09:16:24AM ATTENTION SO YOU KNOW THAT 5:00 TODAY, YOU WILL STILL BE IN
09:16:29AM OFFICE.
09:16:29AM AFTER 5:00, YOU WILL STILL BE IN OFFICE AND YOUR TERM DOES
09:16:34AM NOT END UNTIL MIDNIGHT ON APRIL 30.
09:16:37AM I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
09:16:40AM IN CASES THERE ANY MISUNDERSTANDING AND BRING TO THE PUBLIC'S
09:16:43AM ATTENTION AND, AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING.
09:16:47AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
09:16:49AM IT IS ALWAYS SOMETHING WITH THE PRAYER THAT ALWAYS TIES INTO
09:16:55AM WHAT I WANT TO SAY.
09:16:58AM IF THIS IS HOLY WORK, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THAT ARE
09:17:02AM WILLING TO SERVE.
09:17:03AM AND TO KEEP ON SERVING WHETHER YOU ARE THERE OR NOT.
09:17:07AM BUT I DO WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THE RESOLUTION THAT
09:17:10AM YOU SIGNED IN 2020.
09:17:13AM YOU, THE COUNCIL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MISS LYNN HURTAK
09:17:18AM SAID THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD THE PAST HARMS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE
09:17:22AM TO THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY BASED ON PAST AND PRESENT.
09:17:29AM WE HAVE THE PROFOUND DISPARITIES THAT CONTINUE TO EXIST IN
09:17:34AM OUR COMMUNITY.
09:17:35AM AND IN THAT RESOLUTION, YOU TALKED ABOUT DECLARING THE
09:17:42AM CREATION OF THE RECONCILIATION COMMISSION.
09:17:44AM NOW THAT WAS IN 2020.
09:17:46AM AND NOW WE ARE IN 2023.
09:17:49AM AND THE ISSUES ARE STILL HERE.
09:17:53AM THE ISSUES OF HOW DO WE SHOW OUR YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR
09:17:57AM COMMUNITY THAT A BETTER TAMPA IS MEANT FOR THEM.
09:18:03AM ON SOME SIMPLE THINGS THAT WE HAVE ASKED FOR IN OUR CRA.
09:18:08AM WITH THE CRA FUNDING THAT WE ALLOW OUR CHILDREN TO BE ABLE
09:18:13AM TO SEE THE BENEFIT OF NOT JUST WORK.
09:18:18AM ENTREPRENEURSHIP.
09:18:21AM HAVING A BETTER RELATIONSHIP TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE
09:18:24AM RESISTANCE WE ARE GETTING CONSTANTLY IS THE ANSWER NO.
09A:18:28AM NOT THAT WE ARE ASKING THE CITY STAFF TO DO ANY OF IT.
09:18:31AM THE CRA HAS MONEY THAT CAN HIRE A MINUTE FOR TO HELP
09:18:36AM NAVIGATE SO CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE ALWAYS DEEMED
09:18:42AM TO NOT HAVING HOPE.
09:18:44AM HOPE CAN BE BREEDED INTO THEM.
09:18:46AM I BELIEVE THAT SUCH A COMMISSION WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP YOU
09:18:49AM UNDERSTAND THAT IT JUST CAN'T BE MERE WORDS OF HOW WE DEAL
09:18:54AM WITH DISPARITY AND ONGOING PAST NEGLECT.
09:18:58AM BUT THEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A FRAMEWORK OF MEASUREMENT.
09:19:02AM NOT ENOUGH TO SAY THAT YOU ARE IMPROVING MINORITY
09:19:06AM PARTICIPATION AND THEN WE HAVE SMALL SCALES AND MEASUREMENTS
09:19:10AM OF MAYBE 4 TO 5% ON DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
09:19:15AM DISPARITY IS REAL IN OUR COMMUNITY.
09:19:18AM WE HAVE ASKED CONTINUOUSLY THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO USE THE
09:19:22AM RESOURCES IN OUR COMMUNITY TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF OUR
09:19:25AM SENIORS.
09:19:25AM EAST TAMPA CRA WAS THE FIRST, AND YET IT LAGS BEHIND AS THE
09:19:31AM LAST.
09:19:32AM WE WANT TO SEE A CHANGE IN ALL OF THIS.
09:19:34AM IT IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.
09:19:37AM THE REQUEST IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.
09:19:39AM EITHER THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU SIGN IN 2020 WAS MEANINGFUL
09:19:43AM OR IT WAS NOT.
09:19:44AM THANK YOU.
09:19:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:19:48AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:20:00AM NATASHA GOODLEY.
09:20:03AM THIS IS BITTERSWEET.
09:20:05AM THE PAST FOUR YEARS HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH SO BITTERSWEET.
09:20:08AM FOR ONCE, I FELT THAT EAST TAMPA HAD A VOICE.
09:20:11AM EVERYBODY TALKS OF EAST TAMPA AND USES EAST TAMPA TO GET
09:20:16AM ELECTED BUT DOES NOTHING FOR US.
09:20:17AM WE GAINED VOICE IN COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:20:21AM SOMEONE WHO CALLED OUT INEQUALITY IN THE CITY.
09:20:24AM STOCKED THE BUDGET TO THAT EAST TAMPA WILL HAVE A SHARE IN
09:20:29AM THE FUNDING.
09:20:29AM SOMEONE TO GIVE US A RESCUE CARD, COMMUNITY CENTER,
09:20:32AM APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM, THINGS THAT SEEMED JUST REGULAR.
09:20:36AM A VOICE.
09:20:37AM EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR DECADES AND REPEATEDLY
09:20:41AM SAID ON COUNCIL.
09:20:42AM IT WASN'T HAPPENSTANCE.
09:20:44AM CALCULATED INSTITUTIONAL RACISM AS FAR AS THE FEDERAL
09:20:48AM GOVERNMENT TO AS LOW AS THE CITY HAD A HAND IN ALL OF THIS.
09:20:52AM EAST TAMPA DIDN'T GET HERE OVERNIGHT AND WILL TAKE
09:20:55AM CALCULATED EFFORT TO GET US OUT OF IT.
09:20:57AM AND THAT IS WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES TRIED TO DO.
09:21:01AM I AM EMBARRASSED OF THE SHENANIGANS FROM COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER
09:21:05AM TO COUNCILMAN GUDES TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO COUNCILWOMAN
09:21:08AM HURTAK.
09:21:08AM IT IS EMBARRASSING TO WITNESS THIS.
09:21:11AM ALTHOUGH THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS HAVEN'T SAID SO, DEEP DOWN
09:21:14AM I KNOW YOU ARE AFRAID.
09:21:15AM AFRAID THE SAME THING COULD HAPPEN TO YOU.
09:21:17AM SO INSTEAD OF FIGHTING AGAINST THE INJUSTICES, YOU HAVE GONE
09:21:21AM ALONG WITH IT.
09:21:22AM HOW WILL WE EVER MOVE THIS CITY IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION FOR
09:21:25AM EVERYONE IF THOSE WITH THE POWER TO EFFECT CHANGE ARE
09:21:28AM SCARED.
09:21:28AM I CHAIRED THE CRA FOR TWO YEARS AND ENDURED ALL TYPES OF
09:21:33AM CONSTANT HARASSMENT AND ALL COUNCIL DID WAS APPLAUD MY
09:21:38AM EFFORTS AND THANK ME FOR FIGHTING FOR THE PEOPLE IN SPITE OF
09:21:41AM THE HARASSMENT.
09:21:42AM YET YOU HAVE THE POWER TO ACTUALLY EFFECT CHANGE FOR THE
09:21:45AM PEOPLE IN SPITE OF THE HARASSMENT BUT YOU HAVE CHOSEN NOT
09:21:48AM TOO.
09:21:49AM WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO OUR CITY IF EVERYONE WHO CAN MAKES A
09:21:52AM DIFFERENCE CHOOSES NOT TO.
09:21:53AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
09:21:55AM YOU FOUGHT A GOOD FIGHT.
09:21:58AM KEEP YOUR HEAD UP, BROTHER.
09:22:00AM THE JUDGE VINDICATED YOU TWICE.
09:22:02AM AND ANYONE WHO PUBLICLY CONDEMNED YOU OWES YOU A PUBLIC
09:22:06AM APOLOGY.
09:22:06AM GOD MAKES NO MISTAKES.
09:22:08AM WHAT IS FOR YOU IS FOR YOU AND NO MAN OR WOMAN CAN TAKE IT
09:22:12AM FROM YOU.
09:22:12AM THANK YOU.
09:22:13AM [APPLAUSE]
09:22:19AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:22:20AM I AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY, THE PASTOR OF TRINITY AND
09:22:25AM FAITH MINISTRY.
09:22:26AM I AM ALSO THE HOST OF "WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING" ALONG WITH
09:22:29AM JAY JOHNSON AND KING COBRA AND THE OWNER OF MICHELLE B.
09:22:35AM PATTY AUTOMOBILE SERVICE.
09:22:37AM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL SITTING HERE.
09:22:41AM I HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
09:22:42AM I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD WANT TO BE ELECTED THAT IS AFRAID
09:22:45AM TO SERVE THE PEOPLE.
09:22:46AM YOU HAVE SHOWN THAT YOU WILL STAND UP WHEN IT IS TIME TO
09:22:49AM STAND UP.
09:22:50AM WE ARE LOOKING FOR UNITY.
09:22:51AM WE ARE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO COME TOGETHER AND MAKE A
09:22:55AM DIFFERENCE.
09:22:56AM TO STOP THE CLIQUISH ATTITUDES I HAVE SEEN BEFORE.
09:23:02AM I AM VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL BE MOVING NOT ONLY DOWNTOWN
09:23:07AM BUT EAST TAMPA IS GOING TO START GETTING ITS FAIR SHARE
09:23:10AM BECAUSE I KNOW MANY OF YOUR HEARTS.
09:23:13AM I SPOKEN TO YOU ALL.
09:23:14AM SOME OF YOU KNOW BLACK HISTORY MORE THAN SOME OF THESE
09:23:17AM PEOPLE THAT COME UP EVERY WEEK AND BADGER YOU.
09:23:20AM I AM ASKING THAT YOU ALL BE DILIGENT.
09:23:22AM THAT YOU SAY AND MEAN WHAT YOU SAY WHILE YOU ARE ON THAT
09:23:26AM CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
09:23:26AM AND COUNCILMAN JOSEPH CITRO, WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO
09:23:31AM MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
09:23:33AM WE ALSO HAVE GIFTS NOR FOR YOU.
09:23:36AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
09:23:37AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR LOYALTY.
09:23:39AM WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT YOU HAVE GIVEN THIS COMMUNITY.
09:23:41AM WHETHER PEOPLE RECEIVED IT OR NOT.
09:23:43AM YOU ALWAYS HAD A SMILE ON YOUR FACE.
09:23:44AM YOU SHOWED UP WHEN PEOPLE CALLED YOU, EVEN WHEN WE DIDN'T
09:23:48AM CALL YOU, YOU WERE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:23:50AM WHATEVER YOUR ENDEAVOR AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, I KNOW THAT GOD
09:23:53AM HAS HIS ANOINTING ON IT.
09:23:55AM AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL.
09:23:57AM TO THE REST OF YOU ALL, LET'S GET TO WORK.
09:23:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:24:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL CHAIR, COUNCILMEN.
09:24:08AM ALISON HELIX, 4904 32nd STREET EAST TAMPA.
09:24:14AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN GUDES ESPECIALLY, THIS
09:24:18AM BEING HIS LAST MEETING HERE.
09:24:20AM GENTRIFICATION AND POTENTIAL GENTRIFICATION OF EAST TAMPA IS
09:24:27AM ON THE TABLE.
09:24:27AM AND THEN COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND COUNCILMAN GUDES ASKED
09:24:30AM FOR OUT-OF-THE-BOX CHANGING OF HOW TO MITIGATE IT BECAUSE
09:24:37AM CHANGE IS COMING.
09:24:37AM WE NEED TO DO THINGS THAT WILL PROTECT THE PEOPLE WHOSE
09:24:40AM BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS FOR YEARS AN GENERATIONS INVESTED IN
09:24:45AM EAST TAMPA.
09:24:46AM THANK YOU COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR PROPOSING THE REDEVELOPMENT
09:24:50AM PROGRAM AND EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF IT.
09:24:54AM I AM EXCITED OF THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS YOU WILL SEE FOR
09:24:58AM GENERATION OF LANDOWNERS AND PROPERTY OWNERS IN A WAY TO
09:25:02AM PARTICIPATE IN THIS INCREDIBLE GROWTH IN TAMPA.
09:25:03AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
09:25:04AM ALSO WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT COUNCILMAN
09:25:07AM GUDES, EVERY DAY, WHETHER IT WAS THE CAR DEALERSHIP OR THE
09:25:11AM CAR REPAIR SHOP OR THE CORNER STORE, THOSE PEOPLE DIDN'T
09:25:16AM REALLY KNOW WHAT CITY COUNCIL WAS UNTIL HE CAME IN THEIR
09:25:20AM SHOPS.
09:25:20AM HE MADE SURE THAT HE TALKED TO THEM TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS
09:25:24AM HAPPENING WITH THEM.
09:25:24AM MANY OF THEM DID NOT LAST THROUGH COVID.
09:25:27AM SO HE HAS WORKED WITH THE LOCAL BANKS TO REALLY CREATE SOME
09:25:33AM PROGRAMS, SOME -- HOW DO I SAY IT -- LINE OF CREDIT WITH THE
09:25:40AM BANKS FOR BUSINESSES WHO CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:25:44AM BECAUSE HE UNDERSTOOD THAT A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS, THEY PAY
09:25:48AM THEIR PEOPLE BEFORE THEY PAY THEMSELVES.
09:25:50AM THEY MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE TO COME TO WORK EVERY DAY
09:25:53AM HAVE FOOD ON THE TABLE, AND THEY ARE JUST HUSTLING AND
09:25:56AM HAVING SIDE JOBS.
09:25:57AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR LOOKING OUT FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS
09:26:00AM OWNER AS WELL.
09:26:01AM AND EAST TAMPA AND ESPECIALLY WITH THE EAST TAMPA CRA, WE
09:26:05AM ARE GOING TO NEED THE FULL FORCE OF THE CRA AS WE ARE MOVING
09:26:09AM FORWARD.
09:26:09AM WE ARE ABOUT TO UPDATE OUR CRP.
09:26:12AM AND I AM HOPING AT THIS TIME SINCE YOU WILL BE A PART OF
09:26:16AM THAT, THAT YOU ARE REALLY LOOKING TO THE ECONOMIC
09:26:20AM DEVELOPMENT ASPECTS OF IS IT.
09:26:21AM WHEN YOU ASK A COMMUNITY WHO NEEDS STREETLIGHTS, WHO NEEDS
09:26:25AM SECURITY, WHO NEEDS SIDEWALKS, WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE IN
09:26:28AM THEIR COMMUNITY.
09:26:29AM THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO TELL YOU.
09:26:31AM BUT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE LOOK LIKE
09:26:34AM THE CHANNELSIDE AND WE LOOK LIKE THE DOWNTOWN.
09:26:37AM AND HAVING THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY THAT WILL
09:26:40AM SPRING GENERATIONS OF WEALTH AND BUSINESS OWNERS.
09:26:42AM I ASK YOU AS YOU ARE CONTEMPLATING HOW TO MOVE EAST TAMPA
09:26:46AM FORWARD THAT WE DON'T GET BOGGED DOWN IN THE EMOTIONS AND
09:26:49AM LOOKING AT THE REAL ECONOMIC GROWTH IN EAST TAMPA.
09:26:52AM THANK YOU.
09:26:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:26:54AM >> MENTESNOT.
09:26:59AM I WANT TO SAY UHURU.
09:27:02AM MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
09:27:06AM PEOPLE TALKING OF EAST TAMPA.
09:27:08AM AIN'T NO MORE EAST TAMPA OR WEST TAMPA OR CENTRAL PARK.
09:27:13AM NO YBOR CITY.
09:27:15AM AIN'T NONE OF THAT.
09:27:16AM NO PROGRESS VILLAGE OR CARVER CITY AND LINCOLN GARDENS.
09:27:21AM THEY ARE PUSHING ALL THE AFRICANS OUT THE CITY.
09:27:24AM THEY ARE TRYING TO BUILD A STADIUM AND ALL THE AFRICAN
09:27:29AM PEOPLE OUT OF IT.
09:27:30AM THOSE AFRICAN PEOPLE BEGGING, AND BEGGING.
09:27:33AM VOTING OUT OF THEIR MIND.
09:27:35AM A CITY AND COUNTY WITH A MILLION REGISTERED VOTERS AND LIKE
09:27:39AM 19,000, 20,000 PEOPLE VOTED.
09:27:42AM NOBODY PARTICIPATED IN THAT.
09:27:44AM DEMOCRACY.
09:27:45AM THAT WORD DEMOCRACY IS SUBJUGATION FOR AFRICAN PEOPLE.
09:27:50AM 623 OF THAT.
09:27:51AM 623 YEARS OF THAT AND THE -- A RANT -- STUFF I GET IN
09:27:56AM MY MAILBOX EVERY SINGLE DAY.
09:27:58AM SOME HIGH SCHOOL TRASH WITH PEOPLE WITH ELONGATED FACES AND
09:28:03AM ALL THAT.
09:28:03AM DON'T VOTE FOR THIS PERSON.
09:28:05AM WHAT THEY DID.
09:28:06AM WHAT THEY DID.
09:28:07AM DEMOCRACY, YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF IT.
09:28:10AM ANY BLACK PERSON VOTING OUT OF THEIR MIND UNLESS WE ARE
09:28:14AM VOTING FOR REPARATIONS OR AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE VOTING FOR
09:28:17AM REPARATION.
09:28:18AM WE DON'T HAVE TO COME DOWN HERE BEGGING EVERY WEEK.
09:28:20AM BEGGING EVERY WEEK.
09:28:22AM GIVE US A PARK.
09:28:23AM GIVE US A SPEED BUMP.
09:28:25AM GIVE US A ROUNDABOUT.
09:28:28AM AFRICAN PEOPLE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.
09:28:30AM WE NEED TO BE REUNITED.
09:28:33AM SISTER MICHELLE AND SISTER CONNIE.
09:28:35AM TWO STRONG SISTERS RIGHT HERE.
09:28:36AM IF THEY GOT UNITED WE CAN REALLY SEE SOME CHANGES IN THE
09:28:39AM CITY.
09:28:39AM NOT THE STUFF THEY HAVE BEEN PROMISING US.
09:28:42AM PUT A LOTTERY TICKET IN A BUCKET AND GET PULLED TO SEE IF
09:28:47AM YOU GET HOUSING AND WAITING ON H.U.D. AND ALL THIS NONSENSE.
09:28:52AM WE WANT REAL CHANGES.
09:28:53AM THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.
09:28:54AM AFRICAN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO ANYTHING.
09:28:57AM I AM GOING TO SHOW THIS.
09:28:58AM INFORMATION I HAVE FROM THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT THAT SAY A
09:29:01AM CASE AND APPEAL TO THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT SAID I COULDN'T
09:29:06AM FILE IT.
09:29:06AM I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE THREE WEEKS BECAUSE AN OUTSTANDING
09:29:10AM WARRANT FOR MY ARREST.
09:29:11AM WHY?
09:29:12AM THE MAIN PROBLEM THAT BLACK PEOPLE HAVE, CHILD SUPPORT.
09:29:15AM CHILD SUPPORT.
09:29:16AM WHITE PEOPLE TRYING TO TELL US HOW TO RUN OUR LIVES.
09:29:19AM HAVE NO LEGAL REPRESENTATION AND DOGGING YOU OUT.
09:29:21AM MOST BLACK MEN, MOST BLACK FAMILIES, MOST AFRICAN FAMILIES
09:29:27AM GETTING DOGGED OUT IN THE CHILD SUPPORT ADMINISTRATIVE
09:29:30AM HEARING PROCESS.
09:29:31AM JUDGE FIGUEROA RIGHT AT THIS PODIUM AT THE HEAD OF IT -- IS
09:29:37AM AT THE HEAD OF IT.
09:29:38AM THE HELP AFRICAN PEOPLE NEED, WE DON'T HAVE TO BEG FOR THAT
09:29:42AM HELP.
09:29:42AM WE NEED TO ORGANIZE FOR HELP THAT IS WHAT THE AFRICAN PEOPLE
09:29:45AM NEED TO DO.
09:29:46AM WE DON'T NEED TO COME HERE EVERY WEEK BEGGING WHITE FOLKS.
09:29:49AM GIVE US THIS AND THAT.
09:29:51AM WE ARE NOT FROM A BEGGAR'S RACE.
09:29:54AM ALL THAT SKIN COLOR DISCRIMINATION THEY ARE DOING IS ALIVE
09:29:57AM AND WELL.
09:29:58AM WE DON'T HAVE BEG FOR ANYTHING, CEMETERY AND CLEAN THE
09:30:01AM CEMETERY AND ALL THIS NONSENSE.
09:30:03AM OVER WITH.
09:30:05AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
09:30:07AM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCILMEMBERS, LILIANA PHILIPS.
09:30:15AM I AM REPRESENTING THE ROMANIAN GROUP HERE.
09:30:18AM THANK YOU FOR THE WARM WELCOME AND SPECIAL THANKS TO
09:30:21AM COUNCILMAN BILL CARSON FOR HAVING US.
09:30:24AM AND WE ARE HERE TO LEARN FROM YOU.
09:30:26AM AND YOUR COMMUNITY SPIRIT IS AMAZING AND INSPIRE US.
09:30:30AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:30:31AM WE HAVE MUCH TO LEARN FROM YOU.
09:30:33AM THANK YOU.
09:30:34AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU .
09:30:35AM [APPLAUSE]
09:30:43AM GOOD MORNING.
09:30:43AM MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR, CITIZEN OF TAMPA AND A BUDGET
09:30:50AM COMMITTEE MEMBER.
09:30:51AM I AM JUST CHEAP.
09:30:52AM AND I AM WONDERING WHY TODAY WE WENT OUT OF ORDER BECAUSE
09:30:55AM PUBLIC COMMENT USUALLY COMES AFTER COMMENDATIONS, AND WE
09:31:00AM HAVE AT LEAST TEN FOLKS IN THEIR UNIFORMS WHO COULD BE
09:31:04AM WORKING BY NOW HAD WE DONE IT IN THE NORMAL ORDER.
09:31:07AM I AM JUST SAYING.
09:31:08AM SO IF WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE THINGS UP, SOMEBODY SHOULD LET
09:31:11AM SOMEBODY KNOW.
09:31:12AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:31:13AM COUNCILMAN CITRO, GOOD LUCK WITH ALL YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
09:31:19AM WE ARE GOING TO MISS YOU.
09:31:20AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE STOOD UP ON
09:31:25AM EVERY SINGLE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
09:31:29AM I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY HERE THAT THESE FOLKS HAVE
09:31:33AM COME HERE TODAY AND ASKED FOR DEVELOPMENT IN EAST TAMPA.
09:31:36AM I AM GOING TO STAND UP HERE AND TELL YOU, WE DON'T NEED ANY
09:31:40AM MORE DEVELOPMENT SOUTH OF GANDY.
09:31:42AM SO WHEN FOLKS ARE COMING TO ME, I AM GOING TO ASK TO VISIT
09:31:47AM MY FRIENDS IN EAST TAMPA BECAUSE IT IS TIME FOR US TO GET
09:31:50AM DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE WANT IT.
09:31:52AM WHERE THE CITIZENS NEED IT.
09:31:54AM NOT WHERE IT IS PUTTING OUR COMMUNITY IN JEOPARDY.
09:31:59AM AND HONESTLY, TWICE THIS WEEK, INTERBAY MANHATTAN AND DALE
09:32:08AM MABRY HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY BACKED UP.
09:32:09AM THREE OAR FOUR LIGHTS AND WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF UNITS STILL
09:32:13AM COMING.
09:32:13AM WHEN SOMEBODY COMES TO YOU AND SAYS I WANT TO BUILD THIS IN
09:32:18AM SOUTH TAMPA IN S.O.G. TIME TO REDIRECT THEM TO SOME PLACE
09:32:22AM THAT IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THAT KIND OF DENSITY BECAUSE WE
09:32:26AM ARE FULL AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN FINISHED WITH WHAT YOU
09:32:30AM GUYS HAVE APPROVED IT OVER TIME.
09:32:31AM THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS
09:32:34AM IN SOUTH GANDY AND WE APPRECIATE THAT, BUT PLEASE REMEMBER
09:32:39AM WHEN THEY COME BACK TO YOU, SOUTH TAMPA IS FULL.
09:32:42AM THANK YOU.
09:32:42AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
09:32:43AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:32:49AM TONY HOUGHMAN WITH B&D TOWING.
09:32:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, IF I CAN STOP YOU FOR JUST A MINUTE.
09:32:57AM I WANT TO BE CLEAR BEFORE WE DO THAT -- FORGIVE ME FOR DOING
09:33:00AM THIS -- BUT I JUST WANT -- I AM PASSING AROUND TO CITY
09:33:05AM COUNCIL -- I BELIEVE, SIR, ARE YOU INTENDING TO SPEAK ON
09:33:07AM ITEM NUMBER 2?
09:33:09AM >> I AM, SIR.
09:33:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME THEN, IF I CAN, BRING TO COUNCIL'S
09:33:14AM ATTENTION AND YOUR ATTENTION AS WELL WITH REGARD TO THAT
09:33:19AM ITEM, A MEMO DATED APRIL 18 OF 2023.
09:33:25AM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT FORWARDED A
09:33:29AM MEMO TO CITY COUNCIL REMINDING THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT
09:33:32AM THE RFP SOLICITATION PERIOD AND IT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED WITH
09:33:38AM REGARD TO THE TOWING CONTRACT.
09:33:40AM AND I JUST WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, SIR -- I HAVE A
09:33:44AM COPY OF THE LETTER IF YOU WISH TO SEE THE MEMO -- THAT
09:33:47AM COMMUNICATION DURING THE DEPENDENCY OF SOLICITATION JUST A
09:33:51AM REMINDER TO CITY COUNCIL.
09:33:53AM ANY SOLICITATION OF PROTEST AND APPEAL.
09:33:57AM NO CONTACT WITH CITY OFFICERS OR EMPLOYEES OTHER THAN THE
09:34:00AM INDIVIDUALS SPECIFIED -- SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED, THE
09:34:05AM DIRECTOR OF SOLICITING DEPARTMENT OR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT IS
09:34:10AM PREVENTED FROM ANY BIDDER OR PROPOSER.
09:34:13AM SUCH COMMUNICATION WILL RESULT IN THE AUTOMATIC
09:34:16AM DISQUALIFICATION FOR THE PENDING AND ANY SUBSEQUENT CITY
09:34:21AM SOLICITATION FOR THE PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS NO MATTER THE
09:34:24AM OUTCOME OF THE SOLICITATION AND PROTECTION AND APPEAL.
09:34:28AM SIR, WHAT I AM SUGGESTING TO YOU, IF YOU DO WISH TO DISCUSS
09:34:31AM THIS PURSUANT TO THE CITY CODE, IT COULD AFFECT YOUR ABILITY
09:34:34AM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SOLICITATION PROCESS.
09:34:36AM I WOULD APPRECIATE IT --
09:34:39AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:34:39AM POINT OF ORDER.
09:34:41AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:34:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. MASSEY, I AM CONFUSED.
09:34:48AM THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A WORKSHOP TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES
09:34:52AM WITH THE TOWING COMPANY.
09:34:53AM I DIDN'T KNOW A RFP WAS ALREADY DONE AGAIN.
09:34:57AM I THINK THAT IS UNFAIR TO THE TOW TRUCK DRIVERS AND THE
09:35:00AM COMMUNITY TO NOT BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE OF THEIR
09:35:04AM CONCERNS BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT THIS WORKSHOP WAS
09:35:07AM GOING TO BE ABOUT TO DISCUSS THEIR CONCERNS TO DISCUSS A
09:35:11AM RESOLUTION OF THE ARF.
09:35:14AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MR. SMITH WHO WROTE THE MEMO IS NOT HERE
09:35:17AM TODAY.
09:35:17AM MY UNDERSTANDING IS BECAUSE OF THE MOVEMENT OF THE CURRENT
09:35:21AM IMPOUND LOT -- THE CITY IMPOUND LOT, IT IS REDEVELOPED AS WE
09:35:25AM SPEAK.
09:35:26AM TIMING-WISE, THE RFP HAD TO BE REISSUED.
09:35:30AM A MEETING WITH THE TOW COMPANIES AND PURCHASING BEFORE THE
09:35:34AM RFP TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE TOW COMPANY.
09:35:37AM MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THIS SOLICITATION DID ADDRESS MOST
09:35:42AM OF THOSE ISSUES.
09:35:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I TOLD HIM THAT I FELT THAT AFTER LOOKING
09:35:48AM AT ALL THE ASPECTS OF THE NEW IMPOUND LOT, THIS COUNCIL GOT
09:35:54AM BAMBOOZLED.
09:35:55AM THAT PLACE IS TOO SMALL.
09:35:57AM WE WERE ASSURED THIS WOULD BE A SUFFICIENT PLACE FOR THE
09:36:00AM IMPOUNDS FOR EVIDENCE AND EVERYTHING.
09:36:02AM AND NOW I COME DOWN IN THE NINTH HOUR AND NOW SAYS IT NOT
09:36:06AM SUFFICIENT ENOUGH NOW.
09:36:08AM TO ME, WE WASTED TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
09:36:11AM BECAUSE WE -- WE WERE ASSURED -- THAT IS -- WHEN I WALKED
09:36:14AM OUT THERE AND TOOK A WALK THROUGH, I WAS ASSURED THIS IS THE
09:36:18AM PERFECT PLACE.
09:36:19AM INSIDE SHELTER AND AN OUTSIDE.
09:36:21AM FOR ME TO SEE -- EVEN THOUGH I AM LEAVING TODAY, TO SEE THAT
09:36:25AM THE COMMUNITY CAN'T TALK ABOUT THIS, I THINK IT IS WRONG.
09:36:27AM BUT I YIELD BACK, MR. CHAIR.
09:36:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND COUNCILWOMAN
09:36:32AM HURTAK.
09:36:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:36:34AM SOME MONTHS AGO, I HEARD A RUMOR THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING.
09:36:39AM I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.
09:36:41AM I STARTED DIGGING AROUND, AND I WAS TOLD BECAUSE OF THE
09:36:43AM IMPOUND LOT, WE WERE GOING TO MOVE THE CARS OUT AND DO
09:36:47AM SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE IMPOUND LOT.
09:36:49AM HOWEVER, WE FORGET ONE THING AND YOU HEARD ME SAY MANY TIMES
09:36:53AM AND I AM NOT SPEAKING TO YOU DIRECTLY, MR. COUNSEL, MR.
09:36:58AM MASSEY.
09:36:58AM I AM SPEAKING IN GENERAL TERMS.
09:37:01AM WHEN WE FORGET -- I SAY SOMETHING "WHAT IF," AND THE WHAT IF
09:37:07AM IN MY MIND.
09:37:08AM WHAT IF THIS HAPPENS AND WHAT HAPPENS HERE.
09:37:11AM WE DIDN'T CALCULATE THERE WAS OVER -- I THINK 30 OR 32
09:37:15AM INDIVIDUALS IN THE LINE OF ROTATION.
09:37:16AM I AM NOT SURE HOW IT WORKS BUT I KNOW SOMEWHERE IN THAT
09:37:19AM NUMBER.
09:37:19AM AND NO ONE THOUGHT OF THEM BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUALS -- AND I
09:37:24AM DID -- I DID DIAL UP ONE ANONYMOUSLY AND I TALKED TO THAT
09:37:28AM INDIVIDUAL MONTHS BACK.
09:37:30AM AND HE TOLD ME HE HAD JUST BOUGHT A WRECKER.
09:37:33AM HE HAS A SMALL LOT.
09:37:35AM BUT HIS PAYMENTS ON THE WRECKER -- IF HE LOSES THIS, HE
09:37:39AM WON'T HAVE ANY INCOME COMING IN.
09:37:40AM NOT ALL OF IT, ABOUT 45% OR 50% HE TOLD YOU THAT WOULD NOT
09:37:46AM BE ENOUGH TO COVER HIS OVERHEAD ON THE EQUIPMENT THAT HE
09:37:49AM BOUGHT.
09:37:50AM THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION OF YOU, MR. MASSEY, AT ALL.
09:37:54AM THIS IS A SYSTEM THAT DIDN'T LOOK AT THE "WHAT IF."
09:37:58AM HERE AGAIN I WANT TO REPEAT THAT.
09:38:00AM 30 OR 32 SMALL BUSINESSES -- THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE.
09:38:03AM THEY ARE NOT HUGE AND THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY OTHERS
09:38:06AM HAVE.
09:38:06AM THEY TRY TO DO BETTER.
09:38:07AM TRY TO DO BETTER FOR THEIR FAMILY AND GET THEIR KIDS
09:38:11AM EDUCATED SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE TOW TRUCK DRIVERS.
09:38:15AM NOT THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG WITH IT.
09:38:18AM YOU HAVE TO WORK DAY AND NIGHT IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT.
09:38:22AM YOU HAVE THIS IN MIND, HARD TO SWALLOW.
09:38:26AM WE TALK OF HELPING THE SMALL BUSINESSES.
09:38:28AM WHAT IF THE 30 SOME COMPANIES GET TOGETHER AND BUY A LOT
09:38:32AM SOMEWHERE, AN ACRE OR TWO ACRES OUTSIDE THE PERIMETER OF THE
09:38:36AM CITY BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT FIND THAT LAND REASONABLE IN THE
09:38:39AM CITY AND THEY CAN CREATE THEIR OWN LOT.
09:38:42AM BUT WE NEVER GAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE NEVER THOUGHT
09:38:46AM OF THE "WHAT IF" THE WHAT IF IS, IF WE GO THIS WAY AND
09:38:49AM WHAT IF -- 30-SOME COMPANIES THAT WE TALK OF SMALL
09:38:53AM BUSINESSES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FACILITATE WHAT THEY HAVE
09:38:56AM BEEN DOING ON A PRETTY CONSTANT BASIS AND I WOULD SAY IS ON A
09:39:00AM PRETTY GOOD BASIS THAT THEY DELIVER WHAT THE GOODS ARE, NO
09:39:04AM MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT YOUR ROTATION COMES UP, YOU
09:39:07AM ARE THE ONE THAT HAS GOT TO SHOW IT.
09:39:10AM AND I AM NOT HERE IS TO ARGUE ABOUT THE RFP.
09:39:13AM NOT SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THE RFP.
09:39:16AM BUT IF I HAPPEN TO SEE SOMEONE, I WILL.
09:39:20AM I WOULD ASK YOU TO BE CAREFUL, BECAUSE I AM NOT TOO HAPPY
09:39:24AM TODAY.
09:39:24AM I SEE THIS.
09:39:25AM HAD A MEETING WITH THEM.
09:39:27AM I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING --
09:39:28AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: HOLD ON JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
09:39:30AM HE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS YOU BUT THE SCOPE OF THE IN RFP HAS
09:39:34AM CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.
09:39:35AM YOU WILL HEAR FROM IN GENTLEMAN THEY ARE OKAY WITH THE RFP.
09:39:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE DON'T KNOW THAT.
09:39:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I.
09:39:42AM I AM SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WANT TO DIRECT COUNCIL'S
09:39:46AM ATTENTION TO THE MOTION FOR ITEM 2 TODAY.
09:39:48AM AND I WILL READ IT FOR THE PUBLIC AND YOU HAVE IT IN FRONT
09:39:53AM OF YOU.
09:39:53AM YOU WANT TO SPEAK FIRST, BECAUSE I WANT TO BE ABLE TO
09:39:56AM ADDRESS THAT.
09:39:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS RECOGNIZED.
09:40:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE SHOULD BE NO RFP ALREADY OUT.
09:40:03AM THIS IS VERY CLEAR WHAT WE ASKED FOR.
09:40:05AM WE ASKED -- COUNCILMAN GUDES AND MANISCALCO ASKED THAT THE
09:40:09AM REPORT INCLUDE FINANCIAL BACKGROUND AS TO WHY THIS IS A GOOD
09:40:12AM IDEA TO PRIVATIZE INSTEAD OF KEEP IN HOUSE WITH NUMBERS
09:40:17AM ATTACHED TO THE REPORT.
09:40:18AM FURTHER, THAT SAID REPORT BROUGHT BACK APRIL 27, 2023.
09:40:23AM THERE SHOULD NOT BE A RFP RIGHT NOW.
09:40:26AM I CERTAINLY WILL NOT APPROVE A RFP UNTIL WE HAVE THE
09:40:30AM DISCUSSION.
09:40:31AM THE DISCUSSION WAS WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS EVEN PRUDENT FOR
09:40:33AM US TO BE SPENDING MONEY ON.
09:40:35AM A RFP WAS PUT OUT BEFORE COUNCIL COULD EVEN THINK ABOUT
09:40:40AM WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANTED TO DO IT.
09:40:41AM THAT IS THE PART THAT I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN GUDES IS UPSET
09:40:44AM ABOUT.
09:40:44AM THAT IS THE ONE I AM REALLY ANGRY ABOUT.
09:40:47AM BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE A GREAT CONVERSATION TODAY
09:40:50AM ABOUT WHY IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO PRIVATIZE.
09:40:53AM I AM NOT EVEN TO THE RFP YET.
09:40:56AM I WANT TO KNOW WHY IT IS A GOOD IDEA MONETARILY PRIVATIZE ON
09:41:04AM COSTS THAT WILL INCREASE OVER TIME.
09:41:05AM I AM NOT CONVINCED.
09:41:07AM I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE IS CONVINCED.
09:41:09AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM KEEPING OUR TOW COMPANIES IN THE ROTATION
09:41:14AM BUT WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS?
09:41:16AM THIS IS NOT DISCUSSED BY US AND I AM UPSET THAT THE RFP HAS
09:41:20AM GONE ON AND WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT WHETHER THIS IS A GOOD
09:41:24AM IDEA FOR THE CITY AND FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.
09:41:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
09:41:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GETTING BACK TO THAT AND FOLLOWING UP ON
09:41:32AM YOUR COMMENTS AND THE COMMENTS OF COUNCILMAN GUDES AND
09:41:36AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:41:38AM IT DOES SAY SPECIFICALLY ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY, STAFF TO
09:41:43AM BRING BACK INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE TOW COMPANY
09:41:46AM SITUATION, COMMA, BEFORE THE RFP OR ANYTHING MOVES
09:41:50AM FORWARD FOR THE TOW COMPANY.
09:41:52AM AND GOES ON TO STATE.
09:41:54AM GETTING BACK TO COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S "WHAT IF."
09:41:58AM THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION IS BECAUSE IT
09:42:01AM WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
09:42:02AM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER COUNCIL WAS AWARE THAT A RFP WAS ISSUED
09:42:09AM CONTRARY TO COUNCIL'S MOTION.
09:42:11AM I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
09:42:12AM WITH REGARD TO "WHAT IF" IF IT WAS ISSUED BECAUSE TIME IS OF
09:42:17AM THE ISSUE, THE QUESTION IS WHAT IF COUNCIL REJECTS THE
09:42:21AM CONTRACT WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
09:42:24AM WHAT IS PLAN B FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO DEAL WITH THAT.
09:42:27AM BECAUSE, AGAIN, YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS ISSUE
09:42:31AM IS WHETHER THE CONTRACT IS GOING TO BE ISSUED OR NOT.
09:42:35AM WANT TO BRING THAT TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
09:42:38AM THE REASON I BROUGHT IT TO THE SPEAKER'S PROTECTION AND
09:42:41AM PROTECTION OF THE PROCESS AND PROTECTION OF THE SPEAKER NOT
09:42:44AM KNOWING NECESSARILY THAT -- AND FRANKLY, I WASN'T AWARE OF
09:42:50AM THIS MEMO AND FOR WHATEVER REASON I DIDN'T HAVE IT IN MY
09:42:54AM MAILBOX.
09:42:55AM I WANTED TO PROTECT THE SPEAKER BEFORE THE SPEAKER SPOKE
09:42:58AM BECAUSE I DID WANT AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
09:43:02AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN MISS ZELMAN.
09:43:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY NOTHING TO THE
09:43:07AM SUBSTANCE BUT MORE OF A POINT OF ORDER THAT MAYBE WE HAVE
09:43:11AM LIKE -- WE ARE KIND OF DEALING WITH A WORKSHOP ISSUE.
09:43:14AM I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUE BUT MAYBE GET TO THE COMMENDATION.
09:43:18AM CONTINUE THIS FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT
09:43:21AM OF POLICE OFFICERS HERE AND I DON'T WANT TO -- MY BEEN FOR
09:43:24AM WHAT IT IS WORTH.
09:43:27AM THANK YOU.
09:43:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, BUT I WILL
09:43:31AM SAY THIS, COUNCIL, IF THE GENTLEMAN DOES WISH TO SPEAK, THEN
09:43:34AM IT DOES HAVE CONSEQUENCES FOR HIM PERSONALLY.
09:43:37AM I WANTED TO BRING THAT TO HIS ATTENTION.
09:43:39AM MAYBE COUNCIL CAN HOLD THE CONVERSATION AND THE GENTLEMAN
09:43:42AM CAN SPEAK AFTERWARDS IF HE CHOOSES TO DO SO.
09:43:44AM IS THAT ACCEPTABLE TO YOU, SIR?
09:43:47AM >> I WOULD SAY THAT I WILL WITHDRAW.
09:43:49AM I THINK.
09:43:55AM IT IS KIND OF CRAZY I CANNOT ADDRESS MY ELECTED OFFICIALS ON
09:44:00AM A MATTER BEFORE THEM BECAUSE IT HAS CONSEQUENCES.
09:44:03AM I WILL WITHDRAW.
09:44:04AM I UNDERSTAND HOW IT SHOULD GO FOR YOU TO MAKE IT EASY.
09:44:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE REASON COUNCIL IS IN THE POSITION
09:44:13AM BECAUSE OF THE ISSUANCE OF THE RFP.
09:44:17AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WE TALKED OF THE RFPs AND THE POINT I WAS
09:44:23AM TRYING TO MAKE.
09:44:23AM THE COUNCIL HAS THE AUTHORITY TODAY TO MAKE THE
09:44:25AM ADMINISTRATION WITHDRAW THE RFP SO THE COMMUNITY CAN WEIGH
09:44:29AM IN AS THE COUNCIL ASKED PREVIOUSLY.
09:44:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF COUNCIL WANTS TO FORMULATE A MOTION OR
09:44:37AM RESOLUTION, I WILL WORK BE WITH COUNCIL TO DO THAT TODAY.
09:44:39AM YOU CAN LEAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA, IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
09:44:42AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU ARE GETTING INTO A LOT OF LEGAL ISSUES.
09:44:46AM I DON'T THINK WITHDRAWAL OF THE RFP IS WITHIN COUNCIL'S
09:44:49AM PURVIEW.
09:44:50AM I THINK COUNCIL, IF THE CONTRACT COMES BEFORE YOU, IF YOU
09:44:54AM WANT TO REJECT THAT CONTRACT, YOU CAN.
09:44:55AM IT IS WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW.
09:44:57AM SALIENT FACTS OF WHY THE ADMINISTRATION MOVED FORWARD THE
09:45:01AM WAY IT DID.
09:45:02AM MISS NEWCOMB WANTED TO GIVE YOU A FEW OF THOSE FACTS IN CASE
09:45:07AM YOU WERE AWARE.
09:45:07AM >>MEGAN NEWCOMB: YES, I CAN ADDRESS THE RFP PROCESS BUT MEGAN
09:45:15AM NEWCOMB REPRESENTS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
09:45:15AM I WANT -- IF SOME OF YOU COUNCILMEMBERS ARE NOT AWARE, THIS
09:45:19AM IS BECAUSE THE FACILITY ON HOWARD HAS BEEN DELAYED.
09:45:22AM SO THIS IS POTENTIALLY A TEMPORARY ISSUE.
09:45:26AM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS MADE AWARE OF THIS.
09:45:28AM AND WITH CONSTRUCTION DELAYS AND THINGS, TIME IS CHANGING
09:45:33AM AND DEADLINES ARE CHANGING.
09:45:35AM UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE DEPENDENT ON AN OUTSIDE COMPANY WHEN WE
09:45:39AM CAN AND CANNOT MOVE OUR IMPOUND LOT.
09:45:42AM THIS IS A STOPGAP PROCESS.
09:45:44AM THAT'S WHY IT WAS THE ORIGINAL RFP WAS BROUGHT TO COUNCIL
09:45:49AM AND THAT WAS WITHDRAWN ONCE WE REALIZED QUESTIONS AND
09:45:52AM CONCERNS.
09:45:52AM AFTER THAT REPORT MYSELF, MR. SCHMID, MR. SPEARMAN, THE
09:46:01AM DIRECTOR OF PURCHASING HAD A LARGE MEETING WITH EVERYONE ON
09:46:04AM THE TOW TRUCK LIST.
09:46:05AM TOWING OR POLICE TOWING AND EVERYBODY WAS INVITED AND SAT
09:46:11AM DOWN FOR TWO HOURS AND HASHED EVERYTHING OUT AND HAD THE
09:46:17AM POSITION THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MOVE THE IMPOUND LOT
09:46:20AM AT A CERTAIN TIME AND NOT HAVING THE NEW BE READY.
09:46:25AM BECAUSE OF THE TIMING ISSUE WHY WE HAD TO MOVE, WHY THIS
09:46:28AM NEW RFP WAS SENT OUT.
09:46:30AM IT CLOSES ON MAY 1.
09:46:33AM THE SILENCE FOR THE POTENTIAL BIDDERS HAVE TO BE ENFORCED
09:46:38AM UNTIL MAY 1.
09:46:39AM CERTAIN PEOPLE MR. SPEARMAN AND MR. SCHMID ARE ALLOWED TO
09:46:47AM ANSWER POTENTIAL BIDDERS AND ADDRESS THEIR QUESTIONS.
09:46:51AM NOBODY IN THE CITY CAN ADDRESS THAT.
09:46:52AM THE TIMING IS VERY WONKY, BUT IT IS JUST THE SITUATION WE
09:46:56AM ARE IN.
09:46:56AM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THE
09:47:00AM BACKGROUND REASONING WHY THIS SEEMS SO DISJOINTED.
09:47:03AM BUT WE CHANGED THE RFP AFTER THE CONCERNS AND ESSENTIALLY
09:47:09AM WHAT IT DOES IF YOU HAVE IMPOUND TOWING NONCRIMINAL,
09:47:14AM NONEVIDENTIARY AND POLICE FOUND ARE CRIME-RELATED CASES,
09:47:18AM CASES LIKE THAT.
09:47:19AM THE INITIAL ONE ADDRESSED BOTH OF THEM.
09:47:22AM IN RFP OUT ADDRESSES THE POLICE TOWING.
09:47:26AM THE LIST OF TOW TRUCK COMPANIES WILL NOT BE ALTERED OR
09:47:31AM AFFECTED IN ANY WAY REGARDLESS OF THE SECONDARY ISSUE.
09:47:34AM THE REASON THAT WAS DONE BECAUSE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S
09:47:37AM ISSUE WE HAVE TO RESOLVE IS, WE HAVE VEHICLES AND AT THE END
09:47:40AM OF JULY, WE WILL NOT HAVE A LOCATION TO STORE THEM WHILE THE
09:47:43AM HOWARD FACILITY IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
09:47:46AM THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE ARE TRYING TO SOLVE.
09:47:48AM INITIAL ONE WAS WITHDRAWN BECAUSE IT ENCOMPASSED ALL OF THE
09:47:53AM TOWING AND TOOK THAT OUT AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS THE BIGGEST
09:47:56AM CONCERN RAISED BY THE TOW COMPANIES.
09:47:58AM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.
09:48:00AM WE CAN DISCUSS IT AFTER MAY 1, BUT JUST THE WAY THAT THE
09:48:04AM TIMING WORKS, THAT IS THE REASON WHY THIS IS OUTSTANDING AND
09:48:09AM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE FACTUALLY WHOEVER IS LISTENING AND AS
09:48:14AM WELL AS YOU ALL HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
09:48:15AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:48:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT DESCRIPTION, BUT YOU TALKED
09:48:19AM ABOUT HAVING A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
09:48:22AM AND THEN HAVING THIS MOTION DIDN'T COME AND TALK TO US
09:48:26AM INDIVIDUALLY ABOUT IT.
09:48:26AM THAT IS THE CONCERN.
09:48:30AM WE WANTED TO TAKE WHETHER TO DO THIS, PERIOD.
09:48:33AM AND NOW WE DON'T -- NOW WE ARE JUST FINDING OUT ABOUT THIS
09:48:37AM WEEK.
09:48:37AM THAT THIS WAS DONE BEFORE WE HAD THE DISCUSSION THAT WE
09:48:42AM ASKED FOR.
09:48:43AM >> COUNCIL, I KNOW THAT THEY MET WITH THE COUNCIL.
09:48:51AM AND ATTEMPTED TO REACH ALL OF YOU PRIOR TO SEEING THIS MEMO.
09:48:56AM IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
09:48:59AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:48:59AM HE DID CALL ME A COUPLE OF DAYS PRIOR TO TODAY.
09:49:03AM AND I HAD MY CONCERNS THEN.
09:49:04AM I TOLD HIM EVERYTHING THAT I JUST SAID.
09:49:06AM THAT WE GOT BAMBOOZLED ON THE IMPOUND LOT.
09:49:10AM HE SAID, WELL, COUNCILMAN, THAT WAS BEFORE MY TIME AND
09:49:14AM TRYING TO FIX ALL OF IT.
09:49:15AM I SAID I AM JUST SAYING.
09:49:17AM COUNCIL ASKED FOR SPECIFIC THINGS.
09:49:20AM THAT IS THE CONVERSATION I HAD.
09:49:21AM HE SAID WE TRIED TO WORK THINGS OUT WITH THE TOW TRUCK
09:49:25AM DRIVER.
09:49:25AM I SAID WE WILL SEE THURSDAY HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT WHEN THEY
09:49:28AM COME TO TALK TO US.
09:49:30AM THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO US BECAUSE OF
09:49:33AM THE RFP UNTIL MAY 1.
09:49:34AM WE ARE STILL BACK TO SQUARE ONE TO ME.
09:49:37AM BECAUSE THE MOTION WAS CLEAR BY THIS COUNCIL WHAT WE WANTED
09:49:41AM DONE.
09:49:41AM AND ADMINISTRATION DID WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO VERSUS DOING
09:49:45AM WHAT WE ASKED THEM TO DO.
09:49:46AM WE ASKED THAT EVERYTHING COME BACK TO US FOR DISCUSSION AT A
09:49:50AM WORKSHOP.
09:49:50AM BUT ADMINISTRATION DID WHAT THEY WANTED TO DO.
09:49:54AM THAT IS WHY WE ARE IN THIS DILEMMA AND UNFAIR FOR THE TOW
09:49:58AM TRUCK DRIVERS HERE WANTING TO SPEAK.
09:50:00AM EVERYBODY MAY NOT BE IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT THE OTHER TOW
09:50:03AM TRUCK DRIVERS AGREE.
09:50:04AM AND FOR US THE COUNCIL TO DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED WITH
09:50:08AM OUR TOW COMPANY ROTATION LIST.
09:50:10AM I AM SORRY, BUT I THINK ANOTHER VIOLATION HAS OCCURRED WITH
09:50:13AM THIS COUNCIL.
09:50:14AM THE ADMINISTRATION OVERSTEPPED THE BOUNDS.
09:50:17AM THE MOTION WAS MADE AND NOT ADHERED TO.
09:50:22AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:50:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:50:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: LOOKING AT THIS SYSTEMATICALLY.
09:50:31AM I WILL ASK THAT EVERYBODY IN ADMINISTRATION GET ALONG WITH
09:50:35AM CITY COUNCIL GOING FORWARD.
09:50:36AM ELECTION IS OVER.
09:50:37AM FIGHTING SHOULD BE OVER.
09:50:39AM WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET ALONG.
09:50:42AM I CALLED THE MAYOR AFTER MY ELECTION AND CONGRATULATED HER
09:50:46AM AND WE WILL BE MEETING NEXT WEEK.
09:50:48AM I HOPE SHE WILL BE MEETING WITH EVERYBODY.
09:50:49AM WE KNOW MISS ZELMAN AND HER STAFF HAS BEEN TRYING TO WORK
09:50:54AM CLOSELY WITH US.
09:50:54AM SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE.
09:50:55AM BUT FRAYED NERVES.
09:50:57AM YOU KNOW SOME OF THE MAYOR STAFF HAVE INTENTIONALLY
09:51:02AM SABOTAGED AND POLITICALLY ATTACKED US.
09:51:05AM SOME OF THEM ARE UP FOR RENEWAL AND WE WILL SEE HOW THEIR
09:51:08AM RENEWAL APPOINTMENTS GO IN THE NEXT 30 TO 60 DAYS.
09:51:12AM SOME PEOPLE DO THINGS ACCIDENTALLY NOT REALIZING THEY HIT A
09:51:16AM TRIP WIRE BECAUSE NERVES ARE SO FRAYED.
09:51:19AM KEEP IN MIND WE ALL JUST BEEN THROUGH CAMPAIGNS.
09:51:21AM MISS HURTAK, THE BIGGEST ONE THAT WAS THE RECIPIENT OF 15 TO
09:51:28AM 20 NEGATIVE MAILERS COST $300,000 TO $400,000.
09:51:32AM IF YOU ADD IT ALL UP, THE NEGATIVE MAILERS AGAINST THE THREE
09:51:36AM OF US ANYWAY WERE PROBABLY $2 MILLION OR A MILLION AND A
09:51:40AM HALF DOLLARS.
09:51:40AM AND WE KNOW THE PACS THAT THEY CAME FROM AND WE WILL SEE
09:51:45AM MORE WHERE THEY CAME FROM IN THE PAST.
09:51:47AM BUT JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW THE KIND OF PERSON I AM.
09:51:50AM I MET WITH THE GUY THAT RAN AGAINST ME AND I SAID LET'S
09:51:53AM START OVER.
09:51:53AM LET'S HIT RESET.
09:51:55AM HE SPENT $350,000 OF HIS OWN MONEY AGAINST ME.
09:51:58AM I AM GOING TO DO THE SAME THING WITH THE MAYOR NEXT WEEK.
09:52:02AM EVERYBODY AROUND THE MAYOR STOP LOOKING AT THIS AS A
09:52:05AM POLITICAL ISSUE.
09:52:06AM STOP LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN FIGHT EACH OTHER AND ALL GET
09:52:09AM ALONG.
09:52:10AM WE HAVE -- WE HAVE FOUR YEARS.
09:52:12AM THIS MAYOR'S LEGACY WILL BE DEFINED BY THE NEXT FOUR YEARS
09:52:15AM MORE THAN ANY OF US.
09:52:16AM WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.
09:52:18AM LET'S PLEASE IMPROVE THE COMMUNICATION, COLLABORATE.
09:52:21AM SIX TIMES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS WE APPROVED
09:52:23AM ORDINANCES OR RESOLUTIONS THAT MISS ZELMAN AND MORRIS AND
09:52:27AM HER TEAM HAVE HELPED PUT TOGETHER TO SHOW THAT WE ALL INTEND
09:52:32AM TO WORK TOGETHER.
09:52:33AM LET'S PLEASE SET ASIDE THE -- WHATEVER HAPPENED IN LAST FOUR
09:52:38AM YEARS.
09:52:38AM I THINK ALL OF US WILL LIKE TO GET PAST IT.
09:52:41AM WE WOULD LIKE NOT TO HAVE ANYTHING TESTIFY MAILERS OR OTHER
09:52:45AM THINGS COMING OUR WAY ANYMORE.
09:52:47AM ATTACKS LIKE THE ONE AGAINST COUNCILMAN GUDES AND
09:52:51AM DINGFELDER, WHERE STAFF PARTICIPATED.
09:52:53AM WE NEED TO GET PAST THAT AND MOVE FORWARD.
09:52:57AM EVERYBODY IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, SET UP A DIALOGUE.
09:53:00AM WORK WITH US.
09:53:00AM AND LET'S TRY TO MOVE THIS CITY FORWARD.
09:53:03AM THANK YOU.
09:53:04AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: IF I MAY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:53:12AM VICIOUS THINGS MAILED OUT.
09:53:15AM NASTY, HORRIBLE THING.
09:53:17AM LAST WEEK SOMEONE MAILED SOMETHING OUT OF COUNCILMAN
09:53:20AM MIRANDA.
09:53:20AM TOTAL VICIOUS LIES.
09:53:22AM I PERSONALLY HAD A MAILER SENT OUT AGAINST ME OF FALSEHOODS
09:53:29AM AND HALF-TRUTHS.
09:53:31AM WE ALL WERE AFFECTED THIS CAMPAIGN BY NEGATIVE
09:53:34AM ADVERTISEMENT.
09:53:35AM LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT AFFECTED ALL OF US.
09:53:37AM THIS ELECTION HAS BEEN UNLIKE ANY OTHER I HAVE TO SAY I AM
09:53:47AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE.
09:53:50AM MISS ZELMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO FINISH THE CONVERSATION OUT
09:53:53AM BEFORE WE GO TO THE COMMENDATION.
09:53:55AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
09:53:57AM AND TO EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, AS I HAVE
09:54:04AM SAID BEFORE, WE ARE ALL OF YOU.
09:54:09AM ALL OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
09:54:10AM EVERYBODY IN MY OFFICE, EVERYBODY ON STAFF IS HERE TO DO
09:54:14AM WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:54:16AM BUT IT GOES BOTH WAYS.
09:54:18AM I AGREE WITH YOU.
09:54:19AM WE ALL -- WE HAVE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF COUNCIL.
09:54:22AM YOU ALL WERE ELECTED.
09:54:24AM I WASN'T.
09:54:25AM I RESPECT THAT.
09:54:27AM I WILL DEFER TO YOU FOR THAT REASON, BUT I ASK THE SAME IN
09:54:32AM RETURN.
09:54:33AM WHEN I HEAR COMMENTS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU SAW WHAT THIS
09:54:37AM MOTION WAS AND I AM NOT GOING TO APPROVE THIS RFP BECAUSE
09:54:42AM YOU DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THE LETTER OF THE MOTION WITHOUT
09:54:44AM HEARING WHAT MEGAN WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN, WHICH IS TPD WAS
09:54:49AM UNDER THE GUN.
09:54:50AM TPD HAD A TIMING ISSUE.
09:54:53AM THEY COULDN'T WAIT UNTIL AFTER TODAY TO ISSUE THIS RFP.
09:54:57AM THEY HAD TO FIND A PLACE TO PUT THESE CARS.
09:55:01AM I JUST ASK THAT YOU GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN.
09:55:04AM MIKE SCHMID TRIED TO REACH EACH OF YOU.
09:55:10AM IF HE FAILED, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
09:55:12AM HE WAS SUPPOSED TO TALK TO EACH OF YOU IN ADVANCE TO EXPLAIN
09:55:15AM THE TIMING BEHIND IT AND WHY THE RFP COULDN'T WAIT.
09:55:19AM YES, WE KNEW THE MOTION SAID THAT, BUT TPD COULDN'T WAIT.
09:55:23AM AS FAR AS THE DETAILS OF THE IMPOUND LOT AND WHAT WAS DONE,
09:55:28AM I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
09:55:29AM BUT I CAN TELL YOU IN TERMS OF GETTING THE RFP OUT, IT
09:55:39AM COULDN'T WAIT.
09:55:39AM I ASK HIM TO GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU
09:55:44AM BEFORE JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS THERE IS SOME KIND OF
09:55:47AM NEFARIOUS INTENT OR DISRESPECT SHOWN TO YOU BY THE
09:55:51AM ADMINISTRATION OR IN THIS CASE BY TPD BECAUSE THAT JUST
09:55:55AM ISN'T TRUE.
09:55:55AM I JUST ASK THAT WE BOTH -- WE ALL TREAT EACH OTHER WITH
09:56:01AM RESPECT AND GIVE EACH OTHER THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND
09:56:03AM TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE QUESTIONS AND EXPLAIN THESE
09:56:08AM THINGS TO EACH OTHER RATHER THAN JUMPING TO CONCLUSION AS I
09:56:12AM SAW A LITTLE BIT HERE TODAY, WHICH WAS UNNECESSARY.
09:56:15AM SO, AGAIN --
09:56:18AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:56:20AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YES, I AM SORRY.
09:56:22AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:56:23AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ARE YOU FINISHED, MISS ZELMAN?
09:56:27AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THE ONLY THING I WANT TO SAY ,AND I WANT TO
09:56:31AM SAY THANK YOU TO BOTH YOU AND MR. GUDES.
09:56:33AM I ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU WHEN WE SERVED TOGETHER ON THE
09:56:37AM CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION UNTIL TODAY.
09:56:40AM THANK YOU FOR SHOWING US RESPECT AND WORKING WITH US.
09:56:46AM AND I WISH BOTH OF YOU THE BEST GOING FORWARD.
09:56:51AM I KNOW THIS WON'T BE THE LAST TIME WE SEE YOU.
09:56:54AM I HOPE WE CAN ALL CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER IN A POSITIVE
09:56:57AM WAY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
09:56:58AM SO THANK YOU.
09:57:00AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES.
09:57:01AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I -- I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF THERE WAS A TIME
09:57:08AM CRUNCH, MISS ZELMAN.
09:57:09AM BUT THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE.
09:57:11AM MR. SCHMID OR CHIEF KNEW THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
09:57:19AM IF YOU MET WITH THE TOW TRUCK DRIVER, THAT COULD BE A CALL
09:57:23AM MADE TO COUNCIL OR A SPECIAL AMENDMENT ON ONE OF THE AGENDAS
09:57:28AM TO TALK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD.
09:57:29AM TO GET A CALL AND EVERYBODY DIDN'T GET IF IN THE NINTH HOUR
09:57:33AM BY MR. SCHMID.
09:57:36AM YOU KNEW BEFOREHAND TODAY IN THE 9th HOUR.
09:57:41AM THAT WAS THE CASE WITH THE CHIEF AND THE SITUATION WITH THE
09:57:45AM DRIVERS, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE LOOP THEN.
09:57:47AM NOT NOW.
09:57:48AM THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING.
09:57:50AM THAT IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
09:57:52AM THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED TODAY.
09:57:54AM HAD WE BEEN IN THE LOOP, WE WOULD SAY WE KNOW WHAT THEY DID
09:57:59AM WHAT THEY DID.
09:57:59AM WE KNEW BUT DIDN'T TAKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTION AT THE
09:58:03AM APPROPRIATE TIME BUT.
09:58:08AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:58:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR MY GOOD FRIENDS FROM ROMANIA, THIS IS
09:58:15AM DEMOCRACY.
09:58:15AM WELCOME TO AMERICA.
09:58:19AM I HAD TO BREAK THE NOSE A BIT.
09:58:21AM NOT A MISTAKE, AN ERROR.
09:58:24AM PLAY BALL, YOU MAKE A MISTAKE, YOU GET BENCHED FOR 30 DAYS
09:58:29AM AND YOU ARE STUPID.
09:58:31AM THAT IS HOW THE GAME.
09:58:33AM HERE WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO DROPPED THE BALL, LIKE IN BASEBALL,
09:58:37AM THAT TRIED MAYBE TO COMMUNICATE WITH SEVEN COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:58:40AM AND MAYBE HE OR SHE COULDN'T MAKE IT, BUT THERE IS ALWAYS
09:58:44AM AIDES THEY COULD CALL THAT THE "WHAT IF" I HAVE BEEN TALKING
09:58:49AM ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME COMES INTO PLAY IN MOST INSTANCES.
09:58:53AM IF YOU HAD NOT MADE A CONTACT WITH THE COUNCILMEMBER.
09:58:56AM WHAT IF THEY HAVE AN AIDE?
09:58:58AM WHAT IF YOU LEAVE A MESSAGE ON THE PHONE?
09:59:01AM WHAT IF YOU SEND THEM A TEXT?
09:59:05AM GO TO THE COMPUTER AND SEND AND E-MAIL.
09:59:07AM NONE OF THOSE THAT I KNOW WAS DONE.
09:59:09AM I AM NOT SURE IF IT WAS DONE OR NOT.
09:59:12AM WE ARE NOT AGAINST WHAT IS HAPPENING BUT AGAINST THE PROCESS
09:59:15AM WHAT IS HAPPENING.
09:59:16AM NOT REALLY AGAINST IT.
09:59:17AM ROMANIAN, MAYBE CLOSE TO SPAIN, YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I
09:59:24AM SAID.
09:59:24AM WE ARE TRYING TO FIX THIS IN FRONT OF THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND
09:59:28AM THAT IS WHAT DEMOCRACY IS ALL ABOUT.
09:59:30AM YOU SEE, ONE LESSON WE ARE LEARNING TODAY SEVEN OF US CANNOT
09:59:35AM TALK TO ANY OF US ABOUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA.
09:59:37AM AND THAT WAY THE SEVEN OF US CAN'T GET IN TROUBLE.
09:59:40AM WE ARE TRYING TO AVOID A SYSTEM.
09:59:42AM AND YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR CAN
09:59:46AM COMMUNICATE WITH YOU INDIVIDUALLY, BUT NOT TOGETHER.
09:59:48AM ONE AT A TIME.
09:59:52AM THIS IS A LESSON WE ARE LEARNING ON THAT SIDE AND THIS SIDE.
09:59:56AM AND THAT IS CALLED DEMOCRACY.
09:59:58AM WE WELCOME YOU HERE.
09:59:59AM WELCOME WHAT YOU ARE LISTENING TO.
10:00:01AM AND WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HOW TO GET --
10:00:04AM FACILITATE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET POLICE CARS.
10:00:09AM EVIDENCE IN A LOT THAT IS SECURED.
10:00:13AM CSI ON TV AND CSI NEW YORK AND MIAMI AND A SPECK OF DUST AND
10:00:22AM THEY CAN TELL WHO STOLE THE CAR.
10:00:23AM THEY ALWAYS CATCH THE FELLA.
10:00:26AM THESE ARE THE THINGS WE ARE TRYING TO WORK OUT SO NO ONE
10:00:30AM GETS HURT.
10:00:30AM NOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TAKE THEIR CAR 15% OAR 20% OF
10:00:35AM SOMETHING.
10:00:35AM TAKING A GUESS AND THROWING IT OUT TO SEE HOW CLOSE I AM
10:00:38AM COMING TO MOVE THOSE CARS AND THE OTHERS PICKED UP DUE TO AN
10:00:42AM AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT OR STUFF LIKE THAT GO TO ANOTHER LOT.
10:00:45AM I BELIEVE THIS IS ANOTHER ISSUE.
10:00:47AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:00:48AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:00:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, WHAT I SAID 20 MINUTES -- WE ARE AT AN
10:00:55AM HOUR.
10:00:55AM WE HAVE ABOUT 20 COPS WAITING FOR A COMMENDATION.
10:00:59AM THIS IS NOT TO COMMENT WHATSOEVER ON THE IMPORTANT ISSUES
10:01:05AM THAT ARE ENTITLED TO VIGOROUS DISCUSSION.
10:01:08AM CAN WE DO THE COMMENDATION, BECAUSE WE HAVE 20 OFFICERS NOT
10:01:13AM ON THE STREETS RIGHT NOW.
10:01:13AM IT IS 10:00.
10:01:15AM NOT TO COMMENT SUBSTANTIVELY ON THE DISCUSSION.
10:01:18AM I RESPECT EVERYONE'S OPINIONS.
10:01:19AM A LOT OF VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES ARE HANG HERE.
10:01:24AM I MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THIS HEARD RIGHT NOW.
10:01:29AM PLEASE.
10:01:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:01:33AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:01:36AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:01:37AM OPPOSED.
10:01:38AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, QUICKLY.
10:01:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHERE IS MISS ZELMAN?
10:01:42AM JUST FOR EVERYBODY -- EVERYBODY WATCHING, PLEASE EVERYBODY
10:01:45AM UNDERSTAND THAT NERVES ARE FRAYED RIGHT NOW.
10:01:47AM WHEN YOU GET A BARRAGE OF NEGATIVE STUFF COMING AT YOU.
10:01:55AM MY KIDS CRIED A COUPLE OF NIGHTS LOOKING AT THAT STUFF AND
10:01:58AM EFFECTS LOTS OF WAYS.
10:02:01AM PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT NERVES ARE FRAYED AND COMMUNICATE AND
10:02:04AM OVERCOMMUNICATE TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING IN THE
10:02:07AM FUTURE.
10:02:08AM THE LAST THING I WILL SAY.
10:02:09AM I CONTACTED NICOLE TRAVIS HEAD OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR
10:02:13AM THE CITY AND REARRANGED HER SCHEDULE AND MEETING WITH THE
10:02:17AM ROMANIANS.
10:02:18AM THEY JUST LEFT THE ROOM AND WE THANK THEM FOR COMING.
10:02:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: BACK FROM PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:02:24AM CEREMONIALS.
10:02:25AM COUNCILMAN GUDES.
10:02:26AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, GENTLEMEN.
10:02:44AM I HAVE THE DISTINCT PLEASURE OF -- HE NEEDS NO INTRODUCTION.
10:02:50AM HE PROTECTS US EVERY THURSDAY OR EVERY MEETING TO MAKE SURE
10:02:54AM WE ARE SAFE IN THIS CHAMBER.
10:02:56AM HE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB MY FOUR YEARS, AND AGAIN, I DIDN'T
10:03:00AM KNOW HIM A LOT WHEN I WAS A POLICE OFFICER BECAUSE HE IS
10:03:04AM BEHIND ME A LITTLE BIT.
10:03:05AM BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THAT HE STAYS TRUE.
10:03:07AM HE STAYS LOYAL.
10:03:09AM AND HE HAS WORKED HARD FOR US, ESPECIALLY THIS -- THIS FOUR
10:03:17AM YEARS BECAUSE SPENT SOME TIME IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
10:03:21AM I WANT TO SAY PERSONALLY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, AND I FOUND
10:03:25AM OUT YOU ARE RETIRING NEXT WEEK, TUESDAY.
10:03:27AM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE YOU YOUR ACCOLADES FOR
10:03:31AM THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND FOR THE
10:03:33AM COUNCILMEMBERS IN THIS CHAMBER.
10:03:35AM >> THANK YOU.
10:03:36AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I WILL LET THE CHIEF COME UP AND I WILL
10:03:40AM READ THE COMMENDATION FOR AMARI.
10:03:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, AN HONOR THAT YOU ARE RECOGNIZING ONE OF
10:03:48AM OUR FINEST AND ARMANI IS ONE OF OUR FINEST.
10:03:52AM SAD TO SEE HIM GO.
10:03:53AM I HAVE HIS COMMANDING OFFICER, CAPTAIN, SPEAK ON SPECIFICS.
10:03:58AM >> I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TOP WORK WITH AMARI FOR FOUR YEARS
10:04:02AM NOW AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUPERVISE OFFICERS IN ALL
10:04:05AM DIFFERENT CAPACITIES.
10:04:05AM ONE THING I WILL SAY ABOUT AMARI, I TALK WITH HIM EVERY
10:04:10AM MORNING.
10:04:10AM VERY PROFESSIONAL IN EVERYTHING.
10:04:12AM WHETHER IT WILL CASUAL CONVERSATIONS OR WHAT HE IS DOING.
10:04:15AM HE HAS REPRESENTED US.
10:04:17AM HE HAS REPRESENTED THIS BUREAU.
10:04:19AM HE IS KIND OF THE SAID IT AND FORGET IT.
10:04:22AM HE ONLY CALLS ME WHEN HE NEEDS TO.
10:04:25AM WHEN HE MOVES ON TO HIS NEXT ENDEAVOR, WE WILL SEE WHAT HE
10:04:30AM IS DOING.
10:04:30AM A LOT OF SKILLS.
10:04:33AM OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE OFFICER BARBOSA.
10:04:37AM HE WILL MOVE RIGHT IN.
10:04:38AM WE HAVE A SELECTION PROCESS FOR THAT AS WELL.
10:04:40AM AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE A TRANSITION.
10:04:43AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: ALL RIGHT, MY FRIEND, IN RECOGNITION OF
10:04:50AM AMARI ELMORE FOR YOUR DEDICATION, DEVOTION AND SERVICE TO
10:04:54AM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR 23
10:04:57AM YEARS.
10:04:58AM BEGAN HIS CAREER WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IN
10:05:01AM MAY 2000 AND FROM POLICE OFFICER HAD THAT PATROL,
10:05:06AM DEPARTMENT, SWAT TEAM FOR 17 YEARS.
10:05:09AM I DID NOT KNOW YOU WERE PART OF THE SWAT TEAM.
10:05:12AM WOW.
10:05:12AM AMARI WAS IN THE DUTIES AS MPO.
10:05:18AM AND EARN RESPECT OF YOUR PEERS.
10:05:22AM CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOU ON YOUR RETIREMENT.
10:05:26AM YOU EXCEEDED THE MARK FOR A JOB WELL-DONE.
10:05:29AM IT IS OUR GRANT DUDE TO GIVE YOU THIS COMMENDATION TODAY,
10:05:36AM APRIL 27.
10:05:37AM APPRECIATE YOU, MY BROTHER.
10:05:37AM [APPLAUSE]
10:05:47AM >> MY WIFE, JESSICA.
10:05:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU BETTER.
10:05:50AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: YOU WILL GET IN TROUBLE, MAN.
10:05:50AM [LAUGHTER]
10:05:53AM >> FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN GUDES AND
10:05:56AM THE COUNCIL FOR THE COMMENDATION.
10:05:58AM IT HAS BEEN ENTERTAINING AND EDUCATIONAL OVER THE LAST FOUR
10:06:02AM AND A HALF YEARS TO SAY THE LEAST.
10:06:04AM [LAUGHTER]
10:06:04AM I ENJOYED IT.
10:06:05AM DEFINITELY A PART OF THE JOB I NEVER KNEW WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
10:06:09AM WHEN HE WERE AT THE TCC DURING THE COVID TIME.
10:06:12AM SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENDATION ON THAT.
10:06:15AM ALSO WANT TO THANK MARTY SHELBY, THE COUNCIL AIDES, CITY
10:06:22AM CLERKS AND CCT GUYS ASSISTANCE THEY GAVE ME AND MADE THE JOB
10:06:26AM -- LIKE I SAID KIND OF ENTERTAINING AND A PLEASURE TO COME
10:06:30AM DO THAT PART OF IT.
10:06:31AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY SQUARED FOR SHOWING UP.
10:06:35AM KIND OF BAILED ME OUT WHEN I COULDN'T BE HERE.
10:06:39AM I KNOW IT WASN'T THE BEST PART OF THEIR DAY, BUT I
10:06:42AM APPRECIATE THEM COVERING FOR ME.
10:06:44AM SO THAT'S ABOUT IT.
10:06:45AM THANK YOU.
10:06:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:06:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AMARI, YOU SAID A FEW WORDS BUT I AM --
10:06:52AM YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE STREETS BEFORE AND YOU WORKED ON A
10:06:56AM SQUAD BEFORE.
10:06:56AM WHERE DID YOU GET MORE FLACK, ON THE STREET OR THE HALL?
10:07:01AM >> THE STREET.
10:07:01AM THE STREET.
10:07:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNOWS,
10:07:05AM WHERE WAS IT AT?
10:07:07AM >> THE STREET.
10:07:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
10:07:09AM BUT A PROCESS.
10:07:11AM I KNOW WHEN YOU FIRST CAME HERE FOUR YEARS AGO AND THE
10:07:13AM MANNERISM -- YOU WOULD STAND BY THE DOOR FOR A WHILE.
10:07:17AM I THOUGHT I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY WHO WAS STUFFED.
10:07:20AM RELAX, YOU CAN SIT DOWN ONCE IN A WHILE IF YOU GET TIRED.
10:07:25AM YOU WANTED TO DO YOUR JOB PERFECTLY.
10:07:27AM I ADMIRE YOU WITH YOUR MANNERISM, LOOK AROUND.
10:07:32AM ONE WORD MEANS A LOT TO YOU MORE THAN IT DOES TO US BECAUSE
10:07:35AM KEYWORDS THAT YOU LEARN WHAT COMES NEXT.
10:07:38AM APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE AND
10:07:41AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND HOPE THAT
10:07:43AM RETIREMENT IS FOR A LONG TIME.
10:07:45AM AND GUARANTEE YOU WITHIN 60 DAYS.
10:07:51AM LONGER YOU WORK.
10:07:53AM AND 82.
10:07:56AM THE LONGER YOU WORK, THE LONGER YOU LIVE.
10:08:00AM SHORTER THE WORK, THE SHORTER YOU DO LIVE.
10:08:03AM THANK YOU.
10:08:03AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK .
10:08:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE
10:08:08AM DONE.
10:08:08AM NOT ONLY HAVE YOU BEEN HERE, BUT I NOTICE THE LITTLE THINGS
10:08:11AM YOU DO, HELPING PEOPLE GET OUT OR GET IN.
10:08:14AM JUST LITTLE THINGS THAT MOST PEOPLE MIGHT NOT HAVE DONE.
10:08:17AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE THOSE LITTLE GUESS --
10:08:24AM GESTURES ALWAYS MEAN SO MUCH TO THE PERSON AND SHOW WHO YOU
10:08:29AM ARE.
10:08:29AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND WISH YOU ALL THE BEST IN
10:08:32AM RETIREMENT, WHATEVER YOU DO, WORK OR NOT, AND CONGRATULATION
10:08:36AM TOO YOUR WHOLE FAMILY.
10:08:37AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:08:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HATE TO SEE YOU GO BECAUSE YOU ARE SO
10:08:41AM YOUNG.
10:08:41AM I HEARD "RETIREMENT."
10:08:43AM IT IS AMAZING.
10:08:44AM BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING SO PROFESSIONAL, ALWAYS PROFESSIONAL,
10:08:49AM AND IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IT IS TRUE.
10:08:52AM FROM HERE TO THE CONVENTION CENTER WHEN WE HAD COVID-19 AND
10:08:59AM SOCIAL DISTANCING.
10:09:00AM COMPLICATED TIMES.
10:09:01AM YOU WERE THERE.
10:09:02AM ALWAYS PROFESSIONAL.
10:09:03AM ALWAYS HELPFUL.
10:09:04AM ALWAYS STANDING GUARD.
10:09:06AM KEEPING AN EYE OUT.
10:09:07AM WE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU AND THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS TAKING
10:09:10AM CARE OF US AND WE WISH YOU THE BEST IN YOUR RETIREMENT AND
10:09:14AM WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR YOU.
10:09:16AM >> THANK YOU.
10:09:16AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:09:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:21AM THANK YOU COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR PUTTING THIS FORWARD.
10:09:24AM AMARI, YOU ARE A GOOD GUY AND THOUGHTFUL AND TO SEE A
10:09:28AM WONDERFUL WIFE.
10:09:29AM AND YOU TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE WHAT A WONDERFUL WOMAN SHE
10:09:32AM IS.
10:09:32AM YOU AND I ARE FRIENDS AND A LOT OF GOOD CONVERSATIONS ON CIVIC
10:09:44AM AND SOCIAL THINGS AND YOU ARE A THOUGHTFUL PERSON.
10:09:47AM YOU REALLY ARE.
10:09:48AM WONDERFUL TEMPERAMENT AND VERY CALM.
10:09:50AM AS YOU HAVE SAID BEFORE, WITH US WITH TOUGH TIMES.
10:09:54AM YOU MENTIONED THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:09:56AM I REMEMBER A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE HAD A -- DURING THE POST
10:10:00AM GEORGE FLOYD MONTHS, GOSH, 50, 100 PEOPLE, MAYBE EVEN MORE
10:10:05AM THERE AND STUFF COULD HAVE HAPPENED.
10:10:06AM AND YOU WERE OVER THERE AND ALWAYS OUR FRONT LINE OF DEFENSE
10:10:10AM THERE JUST FOR ANYTHING.
10:10:11AM BECAUSE Y'ALL KNOW.
10:10:12AM ALL IT TAKES IT ONE PERSON, RIGHT, IN ANY KIND OF INCIDENT
10:10:17AM RIGHT NOW ANY TIME.
10:10:18AM AND YOU WERE ALWAYS THERE AND ALWAYS A FRONT LINE OF DEFENSE
10:10:22AM AND YOU, AGAIN, HAVE GREAT TEMPERAMENT.
10:10:24AM YOU ARE ALWAYS VERY CALM AND A GOOD PERSON.
10:10:28AM I AM GLAD TO SEE YOU GET THIS.
10:10:30AM I KNOW WE WILL KEEP IN TOUCH PAUSE YOU ARE A GOOD DUDE.
10:10:33AM THANK YOU.
10:10:33AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:10:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:10:37AM THE PUBLIC WHO MAY NOT KNOW WHO HE IS.
10:10:40AM SORRY IF OVEREXAGGERATION, BUT KIND OF LIKE THE SECRET
10:10:46AM SERVICE PERSON FOR CITY COUNCIL.
10:10:48AM THE MAYOR HAS ONE PERSON FOR HER, WE HAVE ONE FOR SEVEN PLUS
10:10:53AM ALL OF OUR AIDES AND STAFF.
10:10:55AM YOU WERE THE PERSON STANDING IN THE LINE OF FIRE IF
10:10:58AM SOMETHING HAPPENED.
10:10:58AM AND APPRECIATE IT.
10:10:59AM TO JESSICA, THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING HIM AND ALLOWING HIM TO
10:11:03AM DO THAT.
10:11:04AM AND HE WAS NOT JUST HERE PROTECTING US HERE.
10:11:08AM BUT NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS, WE HAD A CELL PHONE NUMBER AND AN
10:11:13AM INCIDENT I WAS AT AN EVENT AND PROTESTERS THREATENED MY KID
10:11:16AM AND I HAD TO CALL HIM AND HE RESPONDED RIGHT AWAY AND WAS
10:11:20AM HELPFUL HELPING WITH THAT.
10:11:22AM THINGS WE DO.
10:11:26AM NOT THAT YOU ARE STANDING BY THE WALL, YOU ARE OUT THERE
10:11:28AM PROTECTING US.
10:11:30AM IT IS AN IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE A CRAZY WORLD OUT THERE
10:11:33AM NOW.
10:11:34AM THERE ARE MANY, MANY VERY GOOD EXPERIENCED POLICE OFFICERS
10:11:37AM THAT WILL BE LEAVING IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
10:11:39AM AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO THANK ALL OF THEM
10:11:43AM INDIVIDUALLY LIKE THIS.
10:11:44AM BUT YOU ARE A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE HARD-WORKING MEN AND
10:11:48AM WOMEN THAT ARE OUT THERE.
10:11:49AM AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL ARE THE BEST AMBASSADORS TO
10:11:53AM GET GOOD PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO REPLACE YOU BECAUSE WE NEED GOOD
10:11:56AM OFFICERS.
10:11:56AM THANK YOU AND ENJOY.
10:11:58AM PLEASE STAY IN TOUCH AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU DO NEXT.
10:12:01AM THANK YOU.
10:12:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EVERYBODY WHO WALKS THROUGH THAT DOOR IS
10:12:04AM WELCOME, WELCOME TO SEE HOW OUR GOVERNMENT WORKS AND WATCH
10:12:09AM US DO OUR JOBS.
10:12:09AM BUT EVERY NOW AND THEN A COUPLE OF PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE A
10:12:13AM LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT.
10:12:14AM LIKE THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS EATING THE CLIPBOARD THE OTHER
10:12:18AM NIGHT.
10:12:18AM AND YOU AND I DEVELOPED THIS LANGUAGE WHERE WE COULD LOOK AT
10:12:22AM ONE ANOTHER.
10:12:22AM AND HE WOULD -- HE WOULD LOOK AT ME AND SAY, ARE WE COOL?
10:12:26AM ARE WE ALL RIGHT?
10:12:28AM IS THIS THING OKAY?
10:12:29AM IT CAN EVEN BE, HEY, WHAT ARE WE HAVING FOR DINNER TOMORROW
10:12:33AM NIGHT.
10:12:33AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE.
10:12:35AM THANK YOU FOR DEVELOPING A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE WITH ME AND I
10:12:42AM KNOW YOU ARE NOT LEAVING ANYWHERE.
10:12:44AM I KNOW YOU ARE NOT GOING TOO FAR.
10:12:46AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE IN THE LAST FOUR
10:12:49AM YEARS.
10:12:49AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:12:51AM [APPLAUSE]
10:12:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COME ON UP.
10:12:56AM ALL RIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE IN
10:13:46AM CHAMBERS WISHES TO SPEAK TO PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:13:51AM ANYONE ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:13:57AM IF NOT -- MR. RANDOLPH.
10:14:13AM >> I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
10:14:20AM IT WAS A NICE CEREMONY.
10:14:22AM I WANT TO SAY GOOD MORNING, AND I AM SAGRET DAWES.
10:14:36AM I WAS HERE LAST WEEK.
10:14:38AM SHORTLY AFTER I FINISHED MAKING COMMENTS LAST WEEK I OBSERVED
10:14:42AM THE CITY ATTORNEY MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT ME WHEN I WAS
10:14:44AM LEAVING THE BUILDING.
10:14:45AM AND ALTHOUGH I APPRECIATE HER SPEAKING SO KINDLY ABOUT MY
10:14:49AM PROWESS AS A LITIGANT.
10:14:53AM I THOUGHT IT WAS NECESSARY FOR ME TO GIVE CONTEXT TO HER
10:14:57AM COMMENTS.
10:14:57AM AND I WANT TO DO THIS WITHOUT APPEARING TO ATTEMPT TO
10:15:01AM LITIGATE OR -- TO LITIGATE THE CASE THAT I HAVE ONGOING IN
10:15:05AM THE FEDERAL COURT OR RELITIGATE THE CASE THAT I ALREADY WON,
10:15:10AM WHICH BRINGS ME HERE.
10:15:14AM I DIDN'T SAY IT LAST TIME, BUT I AM A VETERAN OF THE UNITED
10:15:18AM STATES MILITARIES.
10:15:19AM UNITED STATES ARMY.
10:15:20AM LIKE THE PEOPLE UP HERE, I TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD CERTAIN
10:15:24AM CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES.
10:15:25AM AS A CITIZEN OF FLORIDA, I AM BEHOLDEN TO CERTAIN PROVISIONS
10:15:30AM IN THE CONSTITUTION.
10:15:31AM ALL OF THEM REALLY AND CERTAIN LEGISLATIVE DICTATES AS WELL
10:15:37AM JUST LIKE ANY OTHER PUBLIC OFFICIAL.
10:15:39AM FLORIDA STATUTE.
10:15:40AM I AM SURE YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH BECAUSE YOU HAD TO
10:15:44AM SIGN IT WHEN YOU TOOK OFFICE AND EVERYBODY WHO GETS
10:15:47AM EMPLOYED.
10:15:48AM ARTICLE 1, EXCEPTION 24 OF THE FLORIDA CONSTITUTION GIVES ME
10:15:52AM A RIGHT TO ACCESS THIS MEETING AND TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL AS MY
10:15:56AM REPRESENTATIVES.
10:15:56AM AND EVEN IF I WEREN'T LITIGATING AGAINST THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:16:02AM I HAVE A RIGHT TO COME IN HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU ALL OF ANY
10:16:05AM ISSUE I HAVE WITH MY GOVERNMENTS GOVERNMENT WHICH BROUGHT ME
10:16:09AM HERE.
10:16:09AM FOR EVERYBODY'S EDIFICATION, I PAID THE TPD MONEY TO GET
10:16:15AM SOME RECORDS, WHICH IS WHY I HAD TO DO THE PUBLIC RECORDS
10:16:20AM REQUEST.
10:16:20AM FOR SOME REASON SENT ME ON A WILD GOOSE CASE AND WENT TO THE
10:16:26AM FLORIDA DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF TO GET WHAT I NEEDED FOR
10:16:29AM THE MOST PART FROM BOTH OF THOSE AGENCIES.
10:16:30AM THE AGENCY THAT DIDN'T GIVE ME ANYTHING WAS THE AGENCY THAT
10:16:34AM SENT ME A BILL FOR $10,000.
10:16:36AM WHAT I AM ASKING THE COUNCIL TO DO TO INSTRUCT SOMEBODY,
10:16:40AM SOMEWHERE TO GIVE ME AN ITEMIZED LIST OF WHAT WOULD TAKE 461
10:16:45AM AND A HALF HOURS, JUST 12 WEEKS OF WORKING TIME TO GIVE ME.
10:16:50AM AND WE CAN PROBABLY COME TO SOME SORT OF MUTUAL AND AMICABLE
10:16:56AM RESOLUTION WHAT IT IS THAT EXACTLY I AM LOOKING FOR AND THEY
10:16:59AM CAN GIVE IT TO ME.
10:17:00AM WITH THAT BEING SAID AND, AGAIN, I WANT TO REITERATE IN CASE
10:17:04AM SHE RUNS UP HERE LATER ON.
10:17:06AM I AM NOT TRYING TO LITIGATE THE FEDERAL CASE.
10:17:09AM 22-CV 29 OR ANY OTHER ONGOING CASES.
10:17:14AM I WANT WHAT I ASK FOR MY RIGHT AS A CITIZEN OF THE STATE OF
10:17:18AM FLORIDA.
10:17:18AM YOU PEOPLE TAKE CARE AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEXT FOUR
10:17:21AM YEARS.
10:17:21AM Y'ALL TAKE CARE.
10:17:22AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:17:23AM MR. RANDOLPH, ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
10:17:29AM >> YES.
10:17:29AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH, AND I AM WITH THE WEST TAMPA
10:17:34AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
10:17:35AM TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT JUST ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BEING
10:17:42AM CLOSED.
10:17:42AM IF YOU REMEMBER BACK IN THE 1990s, THERE WAS A MOVIE CALLED
10:17:48AM LIVING IN COMPTON."
10:17:53AM THE PHRASE IS HOMEY, DON'T PLAY THAT.
10:17:55AM WEST TAMPA AND THE '90s AND EARLY 2000s, THEY TRY -- WE KEPT
10:18:05AM TAMPA OPEN.
10:18:06AM AND THE POST OFFICE, WE WERE THERE AND KEPT IT OPEN.
10:18:09AM RELATED TO JUST ELEMENTARY.
10:18:16AM BASED ON BEST PRACTICES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
10:18:19AM ESPECIALLY ONE THAT IS CALLED COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIP AND THE
10:18:25AM OTHER ONE IS CALLED THE SCHOOL ZONE IN NEW YORK.
10:18:29AM BOTH OF THESE INITIATIVES WHEN THE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER
10:18:33AM HOW YOU CAN TURN A FAILING GRADE INTO A PASSING GRADE.
10:18:38AM THIS IS DONE THROUGH A PUBLIC, PRIVATE AND NONPROFIT
10:18:43AM RELATIONSHIP.
10:18:43AM ON MAY 8 OF THIS YEAR, WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY DID AN EMERGENCY
10:18:51AM MEETING FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO PRESENT TO THE SCHOOL
10:18:55AM BOARD ON MAY 9.
10:18:57AM THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED, REACH US AT
10:19:04AM WESTTAMPACAC@GMAIL.COM.
10:19:05AM OUR CURRENT INITIATIVE INCLUDE THE TECHNOLOGY OF BUILDING
10:19:08AM CENTER, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND NOW THE
10:19:12AM EDUCATION INITIATIVE.
10:19:14AM FOR THE NEXT THREE DAYS, OVER 100 NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS
10:19:20AM THROUGHOUT TAMPA WILL BE RECEIVING AN E-MAIL ASKING YOU TO
10:19:25AM JOIN US IN OUR ENDEAVOR TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
10:19:29AM LIKE CHARLIE SAID EARLIER, THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS
10:19:33AM LIKE.
10:19:34AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:19:37AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:19:41AM DO WE HAVE HER ONLINE?
10:19:48AM >> HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME.
10:19:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
10:19:51AM >> HI, MY NAME IS CARROLL ARNE BENNETT.
10:19:54AM I WANT TO MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT ON THE RECENT ELECTIONS.
10:19:58AM I LIVED IN TAMPA ALL MY LIFE, AND I NEVER SEEN LOCAL
10:20:01AM ELECTIONS LIKE WHAT WE SAW THIS TIME.
10:20:03AM I NEVER SEEN ANYTHING SO DIRTY AND NASTY.
10:20:06AM AND PAIR RECENTLY SANDY FREEMAN AND FORMER CHIEF DUGAN AGREE
10:20:11AM WITH ME BECAUSE THEY SAID SO PUBLICLY.
10:20:13AM I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE CALLED ME, E-MAILED
10:20:16AM ME, TEXTED ME, DMED ME, PMED ME, SOCIAL MEDIA IN THE GROCERY
10:20:22AM STORE AFTER THEIR MAILBOXES DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY WITH
10:20:26AM ATTACK MAILERS AND THEY HATED IT.
10:20:28AM YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAID TO ME, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
10:20:30AM THEY SAID THAT MEANS I AM NOT VOTING FOR THAT PERSON.
10:20:34AM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THAT TRASH CLOGGING UP MY MAILBOX.
10:20:39AM AND SOUTH TAMPA RESPONDED LOUD AND CLEAR.
10:20:42AM THEY SOUNDLY DEFEATED ANYONE WHO IS IT THAT TYPE OF
10:20:49AM CAMPAIGNING.
10:20:50AM SO I AM HOPING THAT EVERYBODY TAKES NOTICE IF YOU ARE GOING
10:20:53AM TO RUN FOR OFFICE IN DISTRICT 1-4, YOU BETTER RUN A CLEAN
10:20:58AM CAMPAIGN OR SOUTH TAMPA WILL GIVE YOU THE BOOT.
10:21:01AM I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN CITRO AND COUNCILMAN GUDES FOR
10:21:05AM YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
10:21:06AM YOU COULDN'T -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO PAY ME TO
10:21:11AM GET TO DO THAT JOB.
10:21:13AM IN FACT, THE ONLY WAY TO GET ME TO DO THAT JOB IF YOU PAID
10:21:17AM OFF MY NIECE'S AND NEPHEW'S STUDENT LOANS, AND THE CITY DOESN'T
10:21:23AM REASON IS THAT KIND OF MONEY.
10:21:24AM I WOULD RATHER HAVE HOT POKERS STUCK IN MY EYES TO DO THE
10:21:28AM JOBS THAT YOU GUYS DID.
10:21:29AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
10:21:31AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, I WANT TO SAY YOU SPECIFIC LOW.
10:21:36AM I KNEW NOTHING BEFORE YOU BEFORE YOU GOT ELECTED.
10:21:38AM I HAVE BEEN APPEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL FOR FIVE YEARS AS
10:21:42AM A NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATE.
10:21:43AM WHEN YOU GOT ELECTED, I HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO EXPECT.
10:21:47AM I WANT TO SAY ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED ABOUT YOU THAT YOU
10:21:49AM TREATED EVERYBODY THE SAME.
10:21:51AM WHETHER THEY COULD VOTE FOR YOU OR NOT.
10:21:54AM YOU TREATED EVERY CITIZEN WHO CAME BEFORE YOU THE SAME.
10:21:57AM I CANNOT SAY THAT OF EVERY COUNCILMEMBER ON THIS COUNCIL AND
10:22:02AM THE PREVIOUS CITY COUNCIL.
10:22:03AM SOMETIMES YOU COULD TELL JUST BY A COUNCILPERSON VOTED
10:22:07AM WHETHER THEY WERE -- WHETHER THE NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE WHO
10:22:09AM WERE THERE WERE IN THEIR DISTRICT OR NOT, BUT YOU CAN'T SAY
10:22:13AM THAT ABOUT YOU.
10:22:13AM YOU TREATED EVERYBODY THE SAME.
10:22:15AM EVERYBODY IN THE CITY WAS JUST AS IMPORTANT TO YOU AS
10:22:18AM EVERYBODY ELSE.
10:22:18AM AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND COMMEND YOU FOR THAT
10:22:22AM AND I AM GOING TO MISS YOU.
10:22:24AM AND I WISH YOU AND COUNCILMAN CITRO ALL THE LUCK IN THE
10:22:28AM WORLD AND I HOPE NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS IN BOTH OF YOUR
10:22:31AM FUTURE.
10:22:31AM THANK YOU.
10:22:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
10:22:34AM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE ON THE LINE?
10:22:38AM OKAY.
10:22:38AM WITH COUNCIL'S PERMISSION, ITEM AGENDA NUMBER 6 AND 7 HAVE
10:22:45AM BEEN ASKED TO MOVE TO THE BEGINNING OF OUR WORKSHOP.
10:22:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A GOOD IDEA.
10:22:54AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION.
10:22:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
10:22:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:22:59AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 6 AND 7 BE MOVED TO THE
10:23:03AM BEGINNING OF THE WORKSHOP.
10:23:04AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
10:23:05AM ANY OBJECTION?
10:23:07AM MOTION PASSES.
10:23:08AM MR. BENSON.
10:23:09AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: GOOD MORNING, STEPHEN BENSON.
10:23:13AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6, CM 23-LE 0244.
10:23:21AM >> YES, SIR.
10:23:23AM THE UPDATE ON THE TREE TRUST FUND.
10:23:26AM BOTH MOTIONS DEALT WITH THE UPDATE OF THE TREE TRUST FUND.
10:23:30AM I AM JOINED BY DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECOGNIZE SHERISHA
10:23:37AM HILL, WE WILL TALK ABOUT BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS.
10:23:40AM BEFORE WE GET TO THE NUTS AND BOLTS.
10:23:42AM THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA RECENTLY COMPLETED THE TREE
10:23:47AM CANOPY ANALYSIS THAT HAS BEEN LONG AWAITED FOR.
10:23:50AM DR. SHAWN LANDRY AND DR. ANDREW KOESAR IS HERE TO PROVIDE A
10:23:56AM BRIEF UPDATE AND THEN GO FORWARD AND RELEASE TO THE
10:23:59AM COMMUNITY AND HAVE SOME MEETINGS AND DISCUSS AND DETERMINE
10:24:01AM NEXT STEPS AND WHAT SHOULD BE DONE TO ADDRESS THE RECENT
10:24:05AM REDUCTION IN CANOPY.
10:24:07AM BEFORE SHERISHA AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A
10:24:12AM PRESENTATION FROM DR. SHAWN LANDRY AND DR. ANDREW KOESAR.
10:24:16AM >> IF YOU CAN BRING UP THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
10:24:29AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE IT HERE JUST NOT UP HERE.
10:24:31AM >> HOW DO I ADVANCE?
10:24:33AM >> THIS RIGHT HERE.
10:24:34AM >> AWESOME.
10:24:35AM THANK YOU.
10:24:35AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
10:24:37AM ANDREW KOESAR.
10:24:39AM I'M HERE WITH SHAWN LANDRY, THE THIRD IN OUR TRIO, DR.
10:24:45AM REBECCA ZARGER WILL BE VOICING OTHER HER PRESENTATION.
10:24:50AM I WILL BE THE THIRD PART OF THE PRESENTATION, TECHNOLOGY
10:24:54AM WILLING.
10:24:54AM SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE 2021 REPORT.
10:25:03AM IT IS 2023.
10:25:04AM IT IS HEFTY AND TOOK A LONG TIME TO COMPILE THE DATA.
10:25:07AM A LARGE EFFORT AND I COMMEND THE CITY FOR DOING IT.
10:25:10AM WE HAVE A FIVE-YEAR ASSESSMENT.
10:25:13AM A FIVE-YEAR ASSESSMENT OF THE URBAN FOREST.
10:25:18AM ONE OF THE BIGGEST QUESTION ASKED EVERY FIVE YEARS, HOW HAS
10:25:22AM THE CANOPY OF THE CITY CHANGED.
10:25:25AM THE CANOPY IS THE TREE COVER LOOKING TOP DOWN.
10:25:28AM HOW MUCH OF THAT AREA IS COVERED BY TREE AND HOW MUCH IS
10:25:31AM COVERED BY HARDSCAPE SUCH AS ROADS, BUILDINGS AND OTHER
10:25:34AM THINGS OR JUST BARE GROUND.
10:25:38AM IN THIS ASSESSMENT, WE LOOK AT WHAT THE CANOPY IS DOING OVER
10:25:42AM TIME WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT FEW OTHER CITIES DO WHICH IS
10:25:45AM COMMENDABLE.
10:25:50AM WE SEE IF THE CHANGE ALIGNS WITH THE GOALS OF THE CITY.
10:25:52AM THE GOALS EXPRESSED WITH THE CITY AS IT DOES NOW, NO NET
10:25:56AM CHANGE IN CANOPY OVER TIME.
10:25:58AM KEEPING CONSISTENT AS THINGS CHANGE AND GROW.
10:26:00AM AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT TOP-DOWN VIEW, WHAT SHAWN DOES,
10:26:08AM WE LOOK AT THE BASE LEVEL.
10:26:09AM MY CREW GOES THROUGH FOR THE GROUND AND LOOKS AT THE
10:26:12AM CONDITION OF THE TREES, THE SPECIES, DIVERSITY AND HOW
10:26:16AM THINGS LOOK UP CLOSE WHICH YOU CAN'T GET FROM A SATELLITE OR
10:26:19AM A PLANE.
10:26:20AM AND THEN THIS YEAR, WE HAVE SEVERAL NEW ASPECTS THAT WE
10:26:25AM ALWAYS ADD A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS TO OUR ASSESSMENT.
10:26:27AM AND THERE WAS A HEAT MAP ASSESSMENT WHERE THE HOT ZONES IN
10:26:31AM THE CITY, WHICH IS ON THE MINDS OF A LOT OF CITIES IN
10:26:36AM FLORIDA.
10:26:36AM WE LOOKED AT POTENTIAL TREE PLANTING AREAS.
10:26:39AM AND ALSO THE SOCIAL SCIENCE ASSESSMENT OF WHAT PEOPLE VALUED
10:26:44AM AND HOW MUCH THEY VALUE AND WILL SUPPORT EFFORTS TO GREEN
10:26:47AM THE CITY.
10:26:48AM AND THEN LASTLY, THERE WAS AN ASSESSMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL
10:26:52AM EQUITY.
10:26:52AM SO, YOU KNOW, DOES ANYONE IN THE CITY HAVE THE SAME ACCESS
10:26:56AM WITH THE ACCESS THEY WANT TO TREES AND GREEN SPACES AND
10:27:00AM RECREATIONAL AREAS.
10:27:02AM AS I SAID BEFORE, IT IS KIND OF A MIX OF A TOP DOWN AND
10:27:08AM BOTTOM-UP APPROACH.
10:27:09AM KIND OF FROM -- YOU KNOW, AERIAL VIEWS WHICH IS WHAT SHAWN
10:27:14AM WILL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT TO THE BOTTOM VIEW.
10:27:19AM WE HAVE 201 PERMANENT IN THE CITY.
10:27:23AM MY CREW IS WADING THROUGH SWAMPS, DODGING ALLIGATORS OR
10:27:28AM GETTING SPECIAL PERMISSION TO GO TO MacDILL TO GET THIS DATA
10:27:33AM TO LOOK AT.
10:27:34AM QUITE AND UNDER TAKING AND WE TAKE OUR CARE TO MAKE SURE YOU
10:27:37AM HAVE THE BEST INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO MAKE YOUR DECISIONS.
10:27:43AM SEVERAL DIFFERENT APPROACHES FOR THE AIR YELL ASSESSMENT.
10:27:47AM THE MOST LABOR INTENSIVE AND THE MOST ACCURATE, RANDOM
10:27:51AM POINTS IN THE CITY AND HAVE A PERSON VISUALLY SAYS THERE A
10:27:54AM TREE THERE OR NOT AND WILL ASSESS CANOPY CHANGES OVER TIME
10:27:59AM WITH DIFFERENT PHOTOGRAPHIC IMAGES FROM BETTER CAMERAS AS
10:28:03AM THEY EVOLVE.
10:28:04AM IN ADDITION TO THAT, SHAWN AND HIS TEAM DO A LIDAR.
10:28:09AM LASERS SCANNING THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH.
10:28:12AM AND THEY CAN DO MAPS TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE THE TREES ARE AND
10:28:17AM WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS AND THAT'S HOW WE DO THE ASSESSMENT TO
10:28:20AM SEE WHO HAS TREES AND HOP DOES NOT AND SHOW HOW THINGS
10:28:25AM CHANGE OVER TIME AT A LOCAL SCALE.
10:28:27AM NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL OR DISTRICT LEVEL.
10:28:29AM THIS IS ALL PART OF AN EXISTING MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT THE
10:28:34AM CITY HAS ENACTED IN THE PAST.
10:28:36AM THE CITY HAS A 20-YEAR KIND OF TIME FRAME AND A FIVE-YEAR
10:28:42AM CYCLE WHERE THEY LOOK AT WHAT THINGS AND IF WE ARE WORKING
10:28:46AM TOWARDS -- IF YOU WERE WORKING TOWARD A LONG-TIME GOAL WITH
10:28:48AM THE MANAGEMENT EFFORTS THAT THEY HAVE.
10:28:50AM AND USE THE FIVE-YEAR ASSESSMENT PERIOD TO CHANGE THE COURSE
10:28:53AM IF THINGS ARE GOING AWRY.
10:28:55AM AT THE TOP, WE HAVE THE TREE CANOPY URBAN FOREST ANALYSIS
10:29:00AM WHAT I AM SHOWING YOU AND SHAWN AND REBECCA IS SHOWING YOU.
10:29:04AM AND PART OF A BIGGER SYSTEM OF THE INTERNAL WORKING GROUP
10:29:09AM AND ALL THE EXPERTS IN THE CITY WORKING TO ENSURE COMMON
10:29:13AM GOALS TO MAKE SURE TREES HAVE A PLACE IN THE CITY.
10:29:15AM ADVISED EXTERNALLY FROM EXPERTS OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY AND AN
10:29:20AM EXTERNAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
10:29:21AM AND THEN -- THESE TWO GROUPS WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE WHEN
10:29:25AM THEY SEE THE DATA WHETHER OR NOT THE CITY IS ON THE RIGHT
10:29:30AM COURSE.
10:29:30AM WITH THAT SEARCH THE NEW CYCLE OF FIVE YEARS WHERE THINGS
10:29:33AM ARE CONTINUOUSLY MONITORED TO SEE WHERE THE FUTURE WILL
10:29:36AM BRING US.
10:29:36AM A LITTLE BIT OF MY DATA AND I WILL PASS IT ON TO SHAWN.
10:29:41AM SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, THAT OUR CITY IS DOMINATED BY THINGS
10:29:46AM THAT ARE KINDS OF AN UNNATURAL REMNANTS OF THE PAST FOREST.
10:29:52AM MANGROVES ALONG THE COASTLINE.
10:29:55AM CYPRESSES ALONG THE SWAMP AREAS.
10:29:58AM SHOWING THOSE UNTOUCHED AREAS THAT ARE STILL INTACT ARE
10:30:02AM PROVIDING A LOT OF THE BENEFIT FOR THE CITY WITH REGARDS TO
10:30:04AM WHAT TREES ARE AVAILABLE.
10:30:06AM WE ALSO HAVE THINGS LIKE BRAZILIAN PEPPER WHICH ARE FROM
10:30:10AM BRAZIL, NOT EXACTLY A NATIVE SPECIES AND SOMETHING WE DEAL
10:30:14AM WITH THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:30:15AM AND THEN THE TREES THAT YOU PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH, LAUREL
10:30:20AM OAK, LIVE OAKS, CABBAGE PALMS.
10:30:23AM EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T KNOW THEIR NAMES THEY SHOW UP AND IN
10:30:29AM OUR MANAGED AREAS.
10:30:30AM THIS IS WHAT WE CALL THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE DIAMETER OF THE
10:30:34AM TREES.
10:30:35AM TREES GROW EVERY YEAR THAT THEY LIVE.
10:30:37AM THEY GROW OR THEY DIE.
10:30:38AM WE CAN USE THE GIRTH, THE SIZE OF THE TRUNKS TO ESTIMATE
10:30:42AM THEIR AGE AND HOW LONG THEY HAVE LEFT ON THIS EARTH, RIGHT.
10:30:45AM YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TREES ARE
10:30:51AM SMALL THAT TELL YOU TWO THINGS.
10:30:52AM YOU HAVE A FUTURE.
10:30:53AM YOU HAVE A FUTURE FOREST THAT IS COMING.
10:31:00AM THE BIG TREE PROVIDE A LOT OF BENEFITS AND CAN NOT BE
10:31:04AM UNDERSTATED.
10:31:04AM A YOUNG POPULATION.
10:31:05AM THINGS ARE POPPING UP IN THE REMNANT AREA.
10:31:08AM SWAMPS HAVE A LOT OF NEW GROWTH.
10:31:11AM AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS REACH
10:31:15AM A BETTER SIZE TO MAXIMIZE THE BENEFITS.
10:31:18AM AND I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS, SPEAKING OF BENEFITS.
10:31:23AM WE RUN ALL THIS THROUGH A FOREST SERVICE MODEL DEVELOPED BY
10:31:29AM DAVID NOVAK, ONE THE NOBEL LAUREATE TEAMS.
10:31:35AM AND WE LOOKED AT QUANTIFYING THE BENEFITS THAT MAKES SENSE
10:31:40AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COST OF FIRE TRUCKS AND POLICE CARS AND
10:31:43AM STUFF LIKE THAT.
10:31:45AM QUANTIFY THEM AND INTO THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC WILL
10:31:49AM UNDERSTAND.
10:31:49AM ONE OF THE THINGS WE MEASURED HOW MUCH CARBON TREES
10:31:54AM SEQUESTER.
10:31:54AM HOW MUCH THEY SOAK UP IN THEIR WOOD OVER TIME AND
10:32:01AM COUNTERACTS THE CARBON WE BURN OFF IN COAL AND URBAN FUELS.
10:32:06AM TAMPA SOAKS UP THE SAME AMOUNT OF CARBON IN THE CITY FOR 13
10:32:11AM DAYS.
10:32:11AM CANCELS OUT THE EMISSIONS FOR 15,000 CARS IN A YEAR AND ALSO
10:32:18AM -- OR IT NULLS OUT ACTUALLY 20,000 HOMES, LIKE THEY WOULD
10:32:23AM EMIT THROUGH OPERATING THE AC AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:32:29AM A DOLLARS AND CENTS POINT OF VIEW, THE TREES IN THIS CITY
10:32:35AM AND WE LOOK EXACTLY WHERE THE TREES ARE IN THE PLOT AND HOW
10:32:39AM THEY RELATE TO BUILDING.
10:32:40AM SAVE THE CITY $7.5 MILLION IN COOLING COST FROM AIR
10:32:45AM CONDITIONING.
10:32:46AM $9.5 MILLION IN ASSOCIATE HEALTH COSTS FROM ASTHMA --
10:32:51AM PARTICULATE INFORMATION AND LUNGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THIS
10:32:59AM IS SOMETHING THEY HAVE SEEN IN OTHER STUDIES.
10:33:02AM DEVASTATING INFESTATION AND SEE THE SPIKES OF HEALTH
10:33:09AM CASES RISE IN THEIR LOCAL HOSPITALS FINALLY IN FT.
10:33:14AM LAUDERDALE, A PROBLEM IN FLORIDA.
10:33:15AM PROBABLY WON'T HELP THE RAINS THEY HAVE SEEN LAST WEEK BUT
10:33:20AM THE URBAN FOREST SOAKS UP 560 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER
10:33:26AM DURING STORM EVENTS WHICH IS ENOUGH TO FILL THAT MAIN
10:33:28AM AQUARIUM OF THE TAMPA AQUARIUM OVER 1,000 TIMES.
10:33:31AM >> GREAT, THANKS, SHAWN LANDRY FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH
10:33:40AM FLORIDA.
10:33:40AM SO THERE IS A LOT IN THE REPORT WHICH I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE A
10:33:43AM COPY.
10:33:44AM HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE GIVING PRESENTATIONS TO THE PUBLIC.
10:33:47AM EXPLAINING SOME OF IT.
10:33:49AM ANSWERING QUESTIONS.
10:33:50AM I AM ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO DO THAT ANYWAY.
10:33:52AM ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE MAPPED OUT THE TREE CANOPY EVERY SIX
10:33:57AM INCHES.
10:33:57AM CANOPY, GRASS, IMPERVIOUS BUILDING.
10:34:02AM ONE OF THE THINGS WE TAKE FROM THAT AND A LOT MORE IN THE
10:34:06AM REPORT, THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ON RESIDENTIAL
10:34:11AM POLICIES.
10:34:12AM WHEN YOU THINK OF POLICIES RELATED TO CANOPY, RESIDENTIAL
10:34:17AM PROPERTY THAT IS THE MAJORITY AND PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY,
10:34:20AM TRANSPORTATION AND SOME PUBLIC AREAS.
10:34:21AM OF COURSE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT EVER SINCE
10:34:25AM DOING THIS HOW THE CANOPY HAS BEEN CHANGING OVER TIME.
10:34:29AM THIS YEAR WE WENT BACK TO OLDER AERIAL IMAGERY FROM 1948, 37
10:34:36AM AND '95.
10:34:37AM I COULDN'T FIND ANY IN 1980s UNFORTUNATELY, BUT WHAT WE
10:34:41AM FOUND IS CANOPY INCREASED SINCE THE CANOPY STARTED
10:34:48AM DEVELOPING AND OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IT INCREASED THE
10:34:51AM BIT IN 2011, BUT THEN IT HAS GONE DOWN.
10:34:55AM UNFORTUNATELY IN 2021 ALREADY WE HAVE THE LOWEST LEVEL OF
10:34:59AM CANOPY THAT WE HAD SINCE WE STARTED MONITORING IN DETAIL IN
10:35:03AM 2006.
10:35:04AM THE EQUIVALENT LOSS IN TERMS OF AREA OF CANOPY SINCE 2011 IS
10:35:12AM ESSENTIALLY FOUR TIMES THE AREA OF DAVIS ISLAND TO PUT THAT
10:35:19AM IN PERSPECTIVE.
10:35:20AM WE ARE CURRENTLY AT 30% TREE CANOPY CITYWIDE, WHICH IS A
10:35:26AM WEIRD METRIC IN THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY THAT WE BASE THAT
10:35:29AM -- 30% IS A GOOD TARGET THRESHOLD FOR VARIOUS WELL BEING AND
10:35:34AM VARIOUS HEALTH EFFECTS.
10:35:36AM SO WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO DROP BELOW THAT.
10:35:39AM SO JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL OF SORT OF 1948 TO NOW.
10:35:44AM WHEN YOU THINK OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHAT WAS HERE BEFORE US
10:35:48AM WAS ESSENTIALLY REALLY SPARSELY TREED PINE FLATWOODS.
10:35:53AM IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT KIND OF HABITAT.
10:35:55AM AS PEOPLE MOVED.
10:35:57AM PEOPLE ARE LANDSCAPE AND REALLY THE LANDSCAPED FOREST THAT
10:36:02AM LEADS TO THE CANOPY WE HAVE TODAY AND THAT KIND OF REFLECTS
10:36:05AM PEOPLE'S DESIRE FOR TREE THAT IS ALSO REFLECTED IN TH
10:36:10AM SURVEY RESULTS.
10:36:11AM PRETTY INTERESTING WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT AREAS OF THE CITY
10:36:14AM AND YOU SEE NOTHING THERE IN TERMS OF TREES AND NOW THERE IS
10:36:17AM A LARGE CANOPY.
10:36:21AM SO WHEN YOU BREAK IT DOWN BY PLANNING DISTRICT, WHICH IS
10:36:25AM SORT OF THE WAY THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN SETS THE
10:36:29AM TONE FOR EVALUATING NO-NET LOSS FOR CANOPY.
10:36:34AM IN PLANNING DISTRICTS, IN SOUTH TAMPA, IN CENTRAL TAMPA,
10:36:38AM THERE WAS A DECREASE IN CANOPIES.
10:36:41AM 6% DOWN IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:36:43AM 3.3% DOWN IN CENTRAL TAMPA.
10:36:46AM AND BOTH OF THOSE SORT OF STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT, MEANING
10:36:50AM OUR MEASUREMENTS HAVE ERROR.
10:36:55AM ALL MEASUREMENT HAVE ERROR.
10:36:57AM IF YOU ARE TO CONSIDER THAT WE ARE ROAR A SIGNIFICANTLY
10:37:01AM SIGNIFICANT DECLINE.
10:37:02AM OTHER AREAS A SLIGHT DECREASE AND NOT SIGNIFICANT IF YOU
10:37:05AM WANT TO PUT IT IN THOSE TERMS.
10:37:06AM CAN'T SAY WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY WHETHER THAT DECREASE WAS
10:37:11AM REAL IN THOSE AREAS.
10:37:15AM BUT WE CAN DO THAT IN CENTRAL TAMPA AND SOUTH TAMPA.
10:37:19AM OF COURSE BECAUSE WE PRESENT TO YOU, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO BREAK
10:37:22AM IT DOWN BY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT.
10:37:24AM ONCE AGAIN SOUTH TAMPA IF DOWN.
10:37:27AM THERE IS ALSO DECREASES AT LARGE.
10:37:30AM AND THEN IN -- IN DISTRICT -- WHICH DISTRICT OVER IT IN
10:37:36AM WESTSHORE.
10:37:36AM 6?
10:37:37AM NO.
10:37:37AM ANYWAY, DECREASES THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP.
10:37:40AM MORE IN THE REPORT.
10:37:42AM BUT I WON'T DWELL ON THAT.
10:37:45AM ANOTHER THING WE DO IS WE MAPPED OUT URBAN HEAT THIS TIME.
10:37:50AM AND YOU CAN KIND OF -- A PROXY FOR URBAN HEAT IS THE LAND
10:37:55AM SURFACE TEMPERATURE FROM SATELLITE IMAGERY.
10:37:58AM IT REFLECTS THE KIND OF DIFFERENCES IN TEMPERATURES PEOPLE
10:38:01AM ARE GOING TO BE FEELING IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY ON
10:38:04AM THE SAME DAY GIVEN THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES, SORT OF THE URBAN
10:38:09AM HEAT ISLAND EFFECT THAT IS IN THAT VEIN.
10:38:14AM OBVIOUSLY A STRONG RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CANOPY.
10:38:17AM AREAS THAT HAVE CANOPY AND MUCH LOWER TEMPERATURES.
10:38:20AM WHEN WE LOOK AT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CANOPY AND URBAN
10:38:25AM HEAT, WE SEE THAT THOSE AREAS WITH A LOT OF CANOPY HAVE
10:38:29AM LOWER HEAT AND CONSEQUENTLY AREAS WITH MORE OR LESS CANOPY
10:38:33AM HAVE HIGHER HEAT.
10:38:34AM ONE OF THE THINGS TO STRATEGICALLY TARGET TREE PLANTING
10:38:39AM EFFORTS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:38:41AM WE DID SORT OF A EQUITY ANALYSIS IF YOU WILL.
10:38:46AM WE WANT TO SEE HOW THE SOCIAL DEMOGRAPHICS OF PEOPLE IN THE
10:38:50AM CITY, IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, RELATE TO SOME OF
10:38:53AM THESE FACTORS, CANOPY AND URBAN HEAT.
10:38:57AM ONE OF THE STRONGER RELATIONSHIPS WE FOUND IS THAT
10:39:01AM UNFORTUNATELY URBAN HEAT IS HIGHER IN LOWER INCOME
10:39:05AM NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:39:07AM THIS ALSO HIGHER IN AREAS WITH A GREATER PROPORTION OF
10:39:11AM HISPANIC RESIDENTS.
10:39:12AM PEOPLE WHO SELF-REPORT AS BEING HISPANIC BACKGROUND.
10:39:17AM THOSE ARE THE TWO RELATIONSHIPS.
10:39:19AM WEREN'T MANY OTHER STRONG RELATIONSHIPS IN THAT EQUITY
10:39:24AM ANALYSIS.
10:39:24AM SO HOPEFULLY NOW WHEN I PRESS THIS BUTTON, DR. ZARGER WILL
10:39:32AM GIVE A VOICEOVER ON HER SLIDES AND KEEP IT ON TRACK.
10:39:34AM OTHERWISE I WILL MUDDLE THROUGH IT.
10:39:37AM >> HELLO, REBECCA ZARGER AT THE DEPARTMENT OF ANTHROPOLOGY
10:39:44AM AT USF.
10:39:46AM THE SOCIAL SCIENCE RESULT ON THE PUBLIC'S VALUE OF TREES.
10:39:50AM WHAT ARE TREES MEANING FOR THE PEOPLE LIVING, WORKING AND
10:39:54AM PLAYING IN OUR CITY.
10:39:54AM WHAT BENEFITS AND CHALLENGES DO THEY SEE FOR THE FUTURE OF
10:39:58AM THE URBAN FORESTS.
10:39:59AM WHERE HE ASKED RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, DEVELOPERS AND
10:40:02AM OTHERS TO SHARE THEIR VALUES AND OPINIONS WITH US.
10:40:04AM WE ALSO ASKED QUESTIONS OF THE CITY'S MAINTENANCE OF TREES,
10:40:09AM INFORMATION SEED AND WHAT PEOPLE KNOW OF REGULATIONS
10:40:12AM AFFECTING TREE REMOVAL AND PRUNING.
10:40:15AM WE HEARD THE PRIORITIES THAT RESIDENTS HAVE AND VARIES WITH
10:40:20AM AGE, GENDER, ETHNICITY, RACE, INCOME AND LOCATION IN THE
10:40:24AM CITY.
10:40:25AM FOCUS GROUPS WITH CITY STAFF WHO WORK WITH TREES AND FORM
10:40:28AM THE SURVEY QUESTIONS AND OVER 1,000 PEOPLE RESPONDED TO THE
10:40:32AM ONLINE AND IN-PERSON SURVEY.
10:40:34AM MORE OF THAT INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND IN THE FULL REPORT AND
10:40:37AM WE WELCOME THE CHANCE TO SPEND MORE OF THE SCIENCE STUDY.
10:40:41AM CONTACT ME IF YOU ARE INTERESTED.
10:40:43AM TODAY I HIGHLIGHT A FEW KEY FINDINGS.
10:40:46AM WHO TOOK THIS SURVEY?
10:40:48AM WE HAVE PARTICIPATION FROM EVERY PART OF THE CITY
10:40:50AM REPRESENTING DOZENS OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
10:40:52AM THE MAP YOU SEE HERE SHOWS THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS BY ZIP
10:40:57AM CODE WITH DARKER SHADED AREAS HAVING THE MOST PARTICIPANTS
10:41:01AM IN THE SURVEY.
10:41:02AM OVER 300 PEOPLE WHO COMPLETED THE SURVEY ALSO VOLUNTEER TO
10:41:06AM TALK TO US ONE ON ONE WITH TREES.
10:41:08AM THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY HIGH NUMBER AND SHOW THE LEVEL OF
10:41:12AM INTEREST IN THE TOPIC.
10:41:12AM AS THE STUDY PROGRESSED, INTERVIEWS WERE COMPLETED AND
10:41:16AM TARGETED ZIP CODES WITH FEWER PARTICIPANTS.
10:41:20AM THESE ARE THE LIGHTER GREEN AREAS.
10:41:22AM TO ENSURE VIEWS FROM ALL AREAS OF TAMPA ARE REPRESENTED AND
10:41:26AM EQUITY AND VARIABILITY WAS CAPTURED BY OUR METHODS.
10:41:30AM OVERALL WE DID 35 INTERVIEWS TO SUPPLEMENT THE SURVEY.
10:41:34AM THOSE TO COMPLETED THE SURVEY, THE LARGEST GROUP PEOPLE
10:41:37AM BETWEEN 35 TO 44 YEARS OLD.
10:41:40AM AND FAMILY HOMEOWNERS 10% WHO WERE RENTER ROUGHLY EVEN.
10:41:50AM 20% WHITE.
10:41:52AM 36% DECLINING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
10:41:55AM WE HAD A DIVERSE GROUP OF PARTICIPANTS IN THE INTERVIEWS IN
10:41:59AM THE PUBLIC MEETINGS BUT MORE WORK NEEDS TO BE DO CONTINUE TO
10:42:01AM CONNECT WITH BLACK AND HISPANIC RESIDENTS ON THIS ISSUE.
10:42:04AM WE WANTED TO UNDERSTAND VALUES AND BENEFITS OF TREES AS WELL
10:42:08AM AS DRAWBACKS.
10:42:09AM ONE THING IS CLEAR FROM OUR STUDY.
10:42:11AM PEOPLE HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT TREES.
10:42:13AM TREES ARE VERY CONNECTED TO A SENSE OF PLACE IN TAMPA AND
10:42:17AM ONE RESIDENT TOLD US, THESE TREES HOLD A VERY INTENSE AND
10:42:21AM VERY RICH NATURAL HISTORY MAP MANY REFLECTED ON THE CROSS
10:42:26AM GENERATIONAL ASPECT OF TREES AND HOW THEY RELATE TO WELL
10:42:31AM BEING.
10:42:31AM MENT IN ONE BENEFIT LISTED IN THE SURVEY WAS SHADE.
10:42:35AM THIS WORK CLOUD SO HE WHAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE SURVEY AND
10:42:39AM THE OTHER TOP BENEFITS INCLUDING IMPROVING AIR QUALITY AND
10:42:43AM PREVENTING SPACE FOR BIRDS AND WILDLIFE.
10:42:46AM THIS MATCHES UP FAIRLY WELL WITH THE SCIENCE MEASURES OF
10:42:50AM ECOSYSTEM SERVICES FROM TREES MENTIONED EARLIER.
10:42:54AM MANY MORE VARIED RESPONSES ON THE DRAWBACKS OF TREES, BUT
10:42:58AM THE WORD "DAMAGE" WAS THE MOST OFTEN MENTIONED BOARD.
10:43:02AM PEOPLE GAVE DRAWBACKS OF PRUNING, REMOVAL AND PERMITS AND
10:43:07AM RISK TO PROPERTY OF FALLING LIMBS DUE TO STORMS, DISEASED OR
10:43:14AM DYING TREES AND ROOT MAINTENANCE.
10:43:18AM ALLERGIES, TREES CAUSING CONFLICT BETWEEN NEIGHBORS.
10:43:22AM ONE OF THE KEY ISSUES AND TAKEAWAY FROM THE STUDY IS THAT
10:43:27AM THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE ACCESS TO TREE MAINTENANCE IN MANY
10:43:32AM NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE CITY.
10:43:33AM MANY FELT IT WAS SOMEWHAT OR VERY EXPENSIVE.
10:43:37AM A GREAT INTEREST IN EXPANDING EXISTING PROGRAMS THAT REDUCE
10:43:40AM THIS BURDEN.
10:43:42AM A WAY TO LOWER RISK FROM TREE DAMAGE FROM FALLING LIMBS,
10:43:46AM ULTIMATELY PREVENTING TREE CANOPY LOSS AND GREATER URBAN
10:43:51AM HEAT IN INCOME AREAS WHICH WE HEARD ABOUT EARLIER.
10:43:54AM FINALLY, THERE IS INTEREST IN SUPPORT FOR EXPANDING TREE
10:43:57AM PLANTING IN DESIRED AREA.
10:43:59AM MANY RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATED EXPRESSED CONCERN OF THE
10:44:03AM RECENT PACE OF TREE CANOPY LOSS AND THE IMPACTS OF
10:44:06AM REGULATIONS SURROUND TREE REMOVAL.
10:44:10AM THERE IS A CONCERN THAT CURRENT RATES OF TREE REPLACEMENT IS
10:44:14AM NOT PROPORTION THAT THE TO TREES BEING REMOVED.
10:44:16AM >> OKAY.
10:44:17AM THAT WAS HER PRESENTATION.
10:44:18AM SO I AM GLAD SHE WAS ABLE TO GIVE IT, AND NOT ME.
10:44:22AM LET'S -- IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SLIDES.
10:44:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THEY ARE UP.
10:44:26AM >> SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID BY MAPPING OUT THE CANOPY, AS
10:44:31AM WELL AS GRASS AND SHRUB, IMPERVIOUS AREAS, SO WE CAN LOOK AT
10:44:35AM THE AREA WE CAN CALL POTENTIAL TREE PLANTING AREA.
10:44:39AM AND BASICALLY AREAS NOT SEEING IMPERVIOUS SERVICE.
10:44:44AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO RIP ANYTHING UP TO PLANT AND DEFINE IT BY
10:44:49AM HAVING TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE, A SIZE SUFFICIENT TO PLANT A
10:44:52AM TREE.
10:44:52AM WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, WE CAN KIND OF MAP OUT WHERE YOU CAN
10:44:56AM PLANT TREES, AND THE TAKE HOME FROM THIS, THERE ARE 'I A LOT
10:45:01AM OF ROOM TO PLANT TREES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:45:03AM SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN -- WHEN
10:45:09AM THE CITY CAN USE THIS INFORMATION AS THEY ARE PRIORITIZING
10:45:12AM WHERE TO PLANT.
10:45:12AM POTENTIALLY THEY ARE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE AREAS.
10:45:15AM YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ON-SITE CONDITIONS.
10:45:19AM MAKE SURE NO CONFLICTS WITH OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, THINGS
10:45:23AM LIKE THAT.
10:45:23AM BUT THE OTHER THING WE FOUND IN THE SURVEY ALSO IS THAT
10:45:27AM BASICALLY MOST PEOPLE WANT MORE TREES.
10:45:30AM SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF PLANTING SPACES.
10:45:31AM PEOPLE WANT TRIES.
10:45:33AM THAT WILL NOT BE AN ISSUE.
10:45:35AM YOU JUST HAVE TO PLANT THEM.
10:45:36AM THE OTHER THING WE CAN DO WITH THIS IS TO IDENTIFY
10:45:42AM PARTICULAR AREAS THAT YOU MIGHT PLANT TREES.
10:45:44AM SOME OF THIS IS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
10:45:46AM AND A MAP THAT SHOW THESE RED AREAS, AREAS OF RIGHT-OF-WAY
10:45:50AM WHERE THERE IS TREE PLANTING POTENTIAL.
10:45:52AM AND SO YOU CAN IMAGINE YOU OVERLAY THIS WITH OTHER
10:45:55AM INFORMATION ABOUT CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS OR PRIORITY AREAS.
10:45:58AM AND YOU REALLY SORT OF REFINE THE POTENTIAL FOR WHERE YOU
10:46:02AM WANT TO PLANT BEFORE YOU HAVE TO SPEND MONEY SENDING PEOPLE
10:46:07AM OUT IN THE FIELD TO INSPECT, YOU KNOW, EVERY CITY.
10:46:12AM AND USE DATA TO HELP PRIORITIZE THINGS.
10:46:15AM SO THAT WAS -- THAT WAS REALLY IT.
10:46:19AM THE NEXT STEPS OF IT IS WE PLAN TO HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING.
10:46:23AM I AM NOT SURE WHEN.
10:46:24AM THE SCHEDULING IS IN THE WORKS.
10:46:26AM HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE DEVELOPING SOME MORE MATERIALS TO GET
10:46:30AM THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY OUT IN A FORM THAT MIGHT NOT BE SO
10:46:34AM THICK.
10:46:35AM AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS -- WE ARE -- WE ARE VERY HAPPY
10:46:39AM THIS WILL INFORM SORT OF UPCOMING DISCUSSIONS OF URBAN
10:46:43AM FOREST MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THAT WHOLE EFFORT SO IF YOU TAKE
10:46:47AM THIS, THE SCIENCE, AND TURN IT INTO POLICY THAT SORT OF
10:46:50AM MOVES EVERYBODY IN THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO.
10:46:52AM SO WITH THAT, I GUESS I WILL -- WE CAN TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:46:57AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:47:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND FIRST, LET ME
10:47:04AM COMPLIMENT YOU ON AN AMAZING PRESENTATION.
10:47:07AM MR. BENSON, I BELIEVE HAS MORE TO PRESENT -- WHO IS IN THE
10:47:11AM AUDIENCE.
10:47:12AM WE HAD A VERY LONG DISCUSSION A FEW WEEKS AGO ABOUT THIS.
10:47:15AM AND IT IS FASCINATING BECAUSE SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
10:47:18AM DON'T THINK ABOUT, TREES.
10:47:19AM LOOK AT THE IMPORTANCE OF TREES.
10:47:21AM AND LOOK AT THE BENEFITS OF TREES.
10:47:23AM YOU BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF INTERESTING NUMBERS AND IN THIS
10:47:30AM DATA.
10:47:31AM THE TREE CANOPY REDUCTION.
10:47:35AM YOU PUT MORE YEARS BUT LOOKING AT 2011.
10:47:39AM THE LAST DECADE FROM 34% TO 30%.
10:47:43AM DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT.
10:47:45AM HOWEVER, I HAVE THIS IMAGE OF HOW MANY HOMES RAZED IN SOUTH
10:47:55AM TAMPA.
10:47:55AM R-A-Z-E-D.
10:47:58AM HOW MANY TREES HAVE WE LOST.
10:48:00AM YOU BROKE IT UP INTO DISTRICTS.
10:48:02AM DISTRICT 4 SOUTH TAMPA AND DISTRICT 6 WITH THE LOSS THEY
10:48:06AM EXPERIENCED OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IN TREES.
10:48:09AM YOU HAVE MENTIONED THAT A 10% INCREASE IN THE CANOPY COULD
10:48:14AM REDUCE -- OWE REDUCE HEAT-RELATED DEATHS 3% TO 32 %.
10:48:24AM THAT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT.
10:48:25AM WE SEE THE IMPACT OF THE HEAT AND HOW IT IS WORSE IN THE
10:48:31AM LOWER INCOME AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY; HOWEVER, WE TALKED
10:48:34AM ABOUT THE COST OF MAINTENANCE OF TREES, THE DAMAGE THAT
10:48:38AM TREES TO DO WITH SIDEWALKS AND WHAT NOT.
10:48:42AM HOWEVER, WE HAVE PROGRAMS LIKE THE EAST TAMPA TREE TRIMMING
10:48:45AM PROGRAM BUT IS IT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH AND EXPAND THAT BECAUSE
10:48:49AM IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO 911 PRUNE AND MAINTAIN AND KEEP THE
10:48:55AM TREES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO THE HEALTH OF THE ENVIRONMENT
10:48:57AM AND TO THE HEALTH OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:48:59AM AGAIN, WE ARE RECOGNIZED AS ONE OF THE BEST TREE CANOPIES IN
10:49:03AM THE WORLD HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:49:05AM HOW DO WE PROTECT THAT?
10:49:07AM WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT AND A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES THAT
10:49:09AM YOU MENTIONED.
10:49:10AM WE CAN'T CONTINUE SEEING KNEES DECLINING NUMBERS.
10:49:14AM ALTHOUGH SMALL PERCENTAGES, THE IMPACT IS TREMENDOUS.
10:49:17AM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, YOU KNOW, REGARDING
10:49:20AM ANNUAL REPORTS WITH THE TREE FUND.
10:49:24AM ARE WE GETTING THOSE ANNUAL REPORTS ON THE ANNUAL BASIS?
10:49:29AM I DON'T THINK WE ARE.
10:49:29AM WE HAVE NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT IS
10:49:32AM SUPPOSED TO MEET TWICE A YEAR.
10:49:34AM WHAT IS THE STATE AND WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT COMMITTEE.
10:49:37AM AND ARE THEY MEETING TWICE A YEAR.
10:49:39AM BECAUSE, AGAIN, IN THE LAPSE SEVERAL YEARS, WE ARE SEEING
10:49:44AM REDUCTION, YOU KNOW.
10:49:45AM WE ARE SEEING A REDUCTION IN THE TREE CANOPY AND A REDUCTION
10:49:50AM IN SEAGRASS LEVELS IN OUR WATER AS A GREATER -- OVERLOOKING
10:49:54AM EVERYTHING, OUR ENVIRONMENT.
10:49:57AM THEY HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
10:49:58AM IF WE PLATEAU, THAT'S FINE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DECREASING OUR
10:50:03AM TREE CANOPY.
10:50:04AM NOT DIRECTLY INCREASING OUR ENVIRONMENT.
10:50:06AM BUT ARE WE PUTTING SAFEGUARDS IN PLACE AND KEEPING A
10:50:13AM WATCHFUL HIGH.
10:50:14AM THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS AND I KNOW I AM LOOKING AT MR.
10:50:17AM BENSON, AND YOU HAVE GAVE WONDERFUL DATA AND IN-DEPTH
10:50:21AM PRESENTATION AND EYE OPENING, BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE IMPORTANCE
10:50:24AM OF THE TREE CANOPY AND PROTECTING THAT.
10:50:26AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: THANK YOU, SO -- I AM HAPPY TO SPEAK.
10:50:30AM I THINK THOSE WERE THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE SENT IN.
10:50:34AM IS THAT CORRECT?
10:50:35AM SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE RECEIVED.
10:50:36AM WE CAN DEFINITELY ANSWER THOSE.
10:50:38AM SOME OF THEM WILL BE ANSWERED IN OUR PRESENTATION.
10:50:40AM IF WE CAN GO THROUGH THE SLIDE AND WRAP UP AND FILL IN THE
10:50:43AM GAPS AT THE END IF THAT IS OKAY.
10:50:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:50:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:50:47AM DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION THAT IS PERTINENT?
10:50:50AM >> MORE QUESTIONS FOR UF AND USF.
10:50:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I GET TO
10:50:58AM SAY GO GATOR TO MY US.
10:51:02AM EVERYBODY GETS THE BULLS.
10:51:04AM RARELY DO I GET A GATOR MOMENT.
10:51:06AM BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE IN-DEPTHNESS OF THIS.
10:51:10AM ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS HAPPY TO SEE ON THIS PRESENTATION
10:51:14AM WAS THE DECLINE IN CAMPHORS THAT I KNOW IS A HUGE PROBLEM
10:51:20AM TREE AND THE FACT IT WASN'T ON THE TOP TEN I THOUGHT WAS A
10:51:24AM GOOD THING.
10:51:24AM I WANT TO ECHO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S DESIRE TO MAYBE
10:51:29AM EXPAND THE TREE TRIMMING PROGRAM IN THERE AND THE FACT THAT
10:51:36AM SOMETHING THAT IS CONCERNING THAT I THINK THE CITY NEEDS TO
10:51:40AM PAY ATTENTION TO IS THE SIZE OF THE TREES THAT WE ARE
10:51:43AM CURRENTLY.
10:51:44AM THAT MAKE UP THE CANOPY, THAT -- THAT BAR GRAPH IS VERY,
10:51:51AM VERY EYE OPENING.
10:51:55AM IT IS SOBERING HOW YOUNG OUR TREES ARE.
10:51:59AM AND THE CONCERN THAT I SEE, AND THIS A LOT OF
10:52:04AM RESIDENTS ARE TALKING TO ME ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT A LOT OF
10:52:07AM THESE YOUNGER TREES ARE MITIGATION TREES, AND THAT OUR --
10:52:11AM THE PUBLIC DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO
10:52:15AM KEEP MITIGATION TREES DOWN.
10:52:17AM ONCE THEY MOVE INTO A HOUSE, THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THIS TREE
10:52:20AM IS SUPPOSED TO STAY THERE AND THEY CAN'T TAKE IT OUT.
10:52:23AM SO I KNOW WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH MR
10:52:26AM BENSON'S PRESENTATION.
10:52:27AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
10:52:30AM AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE.
10:52:33AM WE CURRENTLY WE HAVE A TREE GIVEAWAY PROGRAM, BUT I NOTICE
10:52:39AM THAT A LOT OF THOSE TREES THAT WE GIVE AWAY ARE NOT WHAT WE
10:52:42AM WOULD CONSIDER SHADE TREES OR TREES THAT REALLY ADD TO THE
10:52:47AM CANOPY.
10:52:48AM CAN YOU TALK ABOUT MAYBE SOME OF THE TREES WE SHOULD BE
10:52:51AM PRIORITIZING ON THAT TREE GIVEAWAY THAT WOULD REALLY HELP TO
10:52:55AM ENCOURAGE THE CANOPY?
10:53:00AM >> I THINK A RANGE OF TREES IS GOOD.
10:53:02AM YOU WILL WANT YOUR BIG SHE HAD A TREES LIKE YOUR LIVE OAK,
10:53:06AM WHICH CAN BE GROW TO BE 120 FEET WIDE, RIGHT.
10:53:10AM BUT NOT EVERY YARD CAN HANDLE THAT, RIGHT.
10:53:12AM SO HAVING A RANGE OF THE BIG TREE, PROVIDING THE CANOPY AND
10:53:19AM THE SMALLER TREES THAT CAN PROVIDE SOME LEVEL OF BENEFIT BUT
10:53:23AM NOT ALL THE DISSERVICES WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE RAZING
10:53:30AM SIDEWALKS.
10:53:30AM YOU WANT THE BIGGEST TREE ON YOUR PROPERTY WHICH DIFFERS
10:53:36AM FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE.
10:53:37AM HAVING THE WHOLE RAIN SAN JOSE GOOD TO HAVE.
10:53:40AM >> OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER IS SUITABILITY OF DIFFERENT SHOW
10:53:46AM SHEETS FOR STORMS AND CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
10:53:48AM THE MAN PRACTICE OF RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE THAT YOU HEARD
10:53:52AM BEFORE.
10:53:52AM THERE IS A TREE FOR EVERY SITUATION OR NOT.
10:53:55AM BUT YOU GOT TO CHOOSE IT CAREFULLY, YOU KNOW.
10:53:58AM YOU DON'T PLANT A LIVE OAK UNDER A POWER LINE, BUT YOU CAN
10:54:03AM PLANT SMALLER TREES UNDER A POWER LINE AS LONG AS NOTHING
10:54:06AM UNDER THE GROUND TO EFFECT.
10:54:07AM YOU NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE AND MAKE THE
10:54:10AM RIGHT SELECTIONS.
10:54:12AM >> YOU CAN EDUCATE PEOPLE ON THE BENEFITS OF BIG THREE
10:54:15AM BECAUSE PEOPLE SEE THE FLOWER -- YOU LIKE THAT FLOWER.
10:54:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:54:21AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:54:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:54:27AM SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
10:54:29AM YOU TALKED PRESIDENT POSSIBILITY OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OR
10:54:32AM SPEAKING TO THE PUBLIC.
10:54:33AM DID -- PARDON MY IGNORANCE, DID YOU ALL -- DID THE CITY PAY
10:54:39AM YOU ALL TO DO THIS?
10:54:40AM AND IS THERE ADDITIONAL BUDGET WE NEED?
10:54:42AM OR IS THAT INCLUDED IN WHAT THE PROPOSAL WAS?
10:54:46AM >> WE -- YES, WE ARE -- WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.
10:54:49AM USF HAS A TECHNICAL SERVICES CONTRACT WHERE THE CITY CAN ASK
10:54:55AM ANYONE AT USF, NOT JUST ME TO DO THINGS AND OBVIOUSLY HAVE
10:54:59AM BEEN WORKING WITH UF FOREVER.
10:55:01AM WE ALWAYS WORK TOGETHER ON THIS PROJECT
10:55:03AM I WOULDN'T SAY WE ARE MAKING MONEY PER SE, BUT, YOU KNOW,
10:55:08AM THE PEOPLE, OUR STUDENTS AND THE PEOPLING TO THE WORK ARE
10:55:13AM GETTING PAID.
10:55:14AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
10:55:16AM AT THAT BUDGET FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT ON THIS?
10:55:19AM >> NO, UNFORTUNATELY.
10:55:20AM I THINK THEY HAD MY CELL PHONE NUMBER.
10:55:22AM SO UP -- I LIVE IN THE CITY.
10:55:24AM >> I HAVE AN EXTENSION APPOINTMENT.
10:55:27AM I HAVE TO DO IT FOR MY JOB.
10:55:30AM >> WE ENJOY DOING IT.
10:55:31AM WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION THAT ASPECT.
10:55:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU ALL GO BACK -- WHOEVER IS RUNNING
10:55:36AM THE SLIDES, GO BACK TO THE ONE THAT SHOWS THE TIMELINE,
10:55:41AM PLEASE.
10:55:41AM IF YOU PUT THE LINES ON.
10:55:43AM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS IN TAMPA, DURING
10:55:51AM THE BICENTENNIAL, 1976, PEOPLE PLANTED A LOT OF TREES.
10:55:56AM AND YOU CAN -- YOU DON'T HAVE THE '80s NUMBERS.
10:56:04AM >> THERE YOU GO.
10:56:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU CAN SEE A JUMP FROM 73 TO 95.
10:56:09AM I WONDER, DO YOU NOW HOW MANY -- A LOT OF TREES PLANTED
10:56:14AM THEN?
10:56:15AM >> TWO THINGS HAPPENED.
10:56:16AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TREES WERE PLANTED BUT A COUPLE OF
10:56:19AM THINGS THAT HAPPENED THAT MIGHT BE RELATED TO THIS.
10:56:21AM WE CAN'T SAY CERTAINTY BY ANY STRETCH.
10:56:24AM THE FIRST ORDINANCE TREE PROTECTION ORDINANCE IN 1973, BUT
10:56:29AM ALSO THE DEVELOPMENT OF NEW TAMPA.
10:56:32AM YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OLD.
10:56:34AM AERIAL.
10:56:35AM SOME OF THE FOCUS WAS RANGE LAND OR SPARSELY TREED FOREST.
10:56:40AM AS THOSE AREAS DEVELOPED, PEOPLE PLANTED TREE IN THE
10:56:45AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND LED TO LARGE CANOPY.
10:56:47AM TWO FACTORS THAT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH THAT.
10:56:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE BIGGEST QUESTION IS THE WHY AND WHERE
10:56:53AM YOU SAY IN SOUTH TAMPA PARTICULARLY GOT HIT.
10:56:56AM AND SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THIS
10:57:00AM TOPIC.
10:57:00AM IF YOU LOOK THE PEAK IN THIS LIST ANYWAY WAS 2011.
10:57:07AM HALFWAY THROUGH THE DECADE AND ANOTHER DROP AGAIN SO ON A
10:57:13AM NUMBERS BASIS, IT IS NOD BIG, IT IS A WORRYING TREND.
10:57:17AM YOU SHOWED THE HEAT MAP.
10:57:19AM DO YOU -- DO YOU KNOW WHY DURING THAT SAME PERIOD.
10:57:23AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A CORRELATION DURING THE SAME
10:57:25AM PERIOD THERE WAS -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS CAME OUT AND
10:57:28AM SAID UNCONTROLLED GROWTH.
10:57:30AM UNCONTROLLED APPROVAL OF MASSIVE APARTMENT COMPLEXES,
10:57:35AM ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF GANDY.
10:57:40AM SOME OF THE PLACES WITH TREES GOT TORN DOWN.
10:57:44AM PEOPLE COMPLAIN OF McMANSIONS GOING IN.
10:57:47AM BUT ANY CORRELATION OF ANY SPECIFIC KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT
10:57:51AM MAY HAVE CAUSED THAT?
10:57:52AM >> ONE OF THE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT IS SORT OF MISSING
10:57:55AM FROM THIS ANALYSIS AND HOPEFULLY THE CITY WILL WORK
10:57:59AM ACQUIRING IT IS WE WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT WHERE
10:58:02AM SPECIFIC PARCELS -- WHERE DEVELOPMENT HAS OCCURRED.
10:58:07AM WHERE TREE PERMITS WERE ISSUED AND FIND OUT REDEVELOP
10:58:11AM OBVIOUSLY IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:58:13AM A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT WHICH IS NOT NORMAL.
10:58:16AM SOMETIMES IT REQUIRES REMOVING A TREE AND ALSO REQUIRES
10:58:19AM PLANTING A TREE.
10:58:20AM THE REAL QUESTION TO ANSWER IS IN OVER TIME IS THE PLANTING
10:58:24AM OF FREES GOING TO MAKE UP FOR THAT CANOPY LOSS.
10:58:28AM THAT IS SOME DATA THAT WE DON'T HAVE THROUGH THE PERMIT
10:58:32AM SYSTEM THROUGH QUITE A BIT OF WORK.
10:58:34AM PROBABLY WILL ADDRESS THAT.
10:58:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: STEPHEN, MAYBE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS OFF
10:58:38AM LINE, BUT I WILL BE IN FAVOR OF DOING ANY DATA ANALYSIS, IF
10:58:44AM WE COULD.
10:58:45AM COULD YOU GO TO THE HEAT MAP, PLEASE.
10:58:47AM I MEAN, THE BIGGEST DROP WAS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:58:50AM BUT YOU ARE SHOWING KIND OF THE BEACH PARK, WEST SHORE AREA.
10:58:55AM MAYBE MORE TO THE NORTH.
10:58:57AM >> THE CLOSED CAPTIONING IS GOING OVER THAT PART OF THE
10:58:59AM SLIDE, SO -- YEAH.
10:59:01AM I MEAN, THERE IS DIFFERENT AREAS.
10:59:03AM THIS IS BY BLOCK ROUTE --
10:59:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: SOUTH OF GANDY YOU CAN SEE THE AREA HIT
10:59:10AM ALSO.
10:59:11AM >> YOU SEE ON THE -- ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THERE IS -- YOU
10:59:15AM KNOW, LOWER CANOPY.
10:59:16AM A REAL TIGHT CORRELATION BETWEEN LOW CANOPY AND HIGHER HEAT.
10:59:21AM >> THIS SLIDE IS THE COMP ON THE DECLINE.
10:59:24AM I THINK THE INFORMATION THAT YOU ARE REFERENCING IS
10:59:27AM ADDRESSED IN THE ANALYSIS OF THE CHANGING CANOPY BY LAND USE
10:59:31AM AND ZONING DISTRICT WHICH WE HAVE.
10:59:34AM AND WHILE -- THE LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND THE
10:59:38AM COMMERCIAL PROJECTS MIGHT SEEM LIKE A LOT BECAUSE THEY ARE
10:59:41AM IN TERMS OF DENSITY AND DEVELOP SCALE.
10:59:44AM IN TERMS OF LAND AREA, WHERE IS THE MOST DEVELOPMENT GOING
10:59:48AM WITH LAND AREA IS THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND
10:59:51AM REFLECTED IN THEIR ANALYSIS.
10:59:53AM THE RS-50 OR 60 SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.
10:59:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: DIRECT CORRELATION OF THE TREES BEING TORN
11:00:02AM DOWN.
11:00:02AM >> WHERE THEY SAW DECLINE IN POLICY.
11:00:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: FROM A POLICY POINT OF VIEW, IF YOU LOOK AT
11:00:10AM THOSE DATES, MOST HAPPENED IN THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION NOT
11:00:13AM THE CITY COUNCIL AND THIS ADMINISTRATION AND AT LEASE
11:00:16AM ANECDOTALLY, WE HAVE BEEN VERY PRO SMART GROWTH NOT
11:00:23AM UNCONTROLLED GROWTH AND IN FAVOR OF PRESERVING TREES.
11:00:26AM I UNDERSTAND THE MAYOR MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT YESTERDAY OF
11:00:29AM PLANTING MORE TREES AND THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
11:00:32AM ONE LAST QUESTION.
11:00:32AM I USED TO LIVE IN SINGAPORE THAT EVERYBODY IS TIRED OF ME
11:00:35AM SAYING, BUT SOME PHOENIX THAT ARE TREE ADVOCATES SAY AN
11:00:39AM INTERNATIONAL RANKING THAT SHOWED US AHEAD OF SINGAPORE ON
11:00:44AM TREE CANOPY.
11:00:45AM IS THAT RIGHT?
11:00:46AM WHETHER DO WE STAND INTERNATIONALLY?
11:00:49AM >> I CAN EXPLAIN THIS.
11:00:50AM THE SHORT STORY IS OF THAT I AM FRIENDS WITH THE PERSON WHO
11:00:55AM DID THE TREEPEDIA AND THAT ANALYSIS.
11:00:59AM IT IS BASED ON GOOGLE STREET VIEW IMAGES LOOKING AT GREENNESS
11:01:03AM FROM A GROUND LEVEL PERSPECTIVE.
11:01:06AM AND SO THEY DIDN'T ANALYZE EVERY CITY IN THE WORLD.
11:01:10AM THEY ONLY ANALYZED A HANDFUL.
11:01:13AM AND THEY ONLY ANALYZED TAMPA BECAUSE I ASKED THEM TO DO
11:01:17AM THAT.
11:01:17AM I ALSO ASKED THEM TO ANALYZE OTHER CITIES.
11:01:19AM SO IN THAT -- IN THAT LIST OF CITIES, TAMPA DEFINITELY IS
11:01:25AM NUMBER ONE IN TERMS OF CANOPY.
11:01:27AM UP DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THE GOOD NEWS.
11:01:30AM IF WE LOOK AT OTHER CITIES, I THINK TAMPA'S CANOPY IS RATHER
11:01:35AM -- RATHER ON THE HIGH LEVEL.
11:01:38AM >> EUROPEAN CITIES WILL LOVE THE CANOPY IN THIS CITY.
11:01:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: SOMETHING WE ARE PROUD ABOUT.
11:01:45AM PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.
11:01:48AM THE REASON I BOUGHT A HOUSE ON MY STREET AND STREETS WITH
11:01:53AM TREES ARE THE ONES THAT PEOPLE LIKE MORE THAN THE
11:01:55AM ARCHITECTURE.
11:01:56AM RELATED TO THAT THOUGH, I THINK WE NEED A TREE VISION.
11:02:00AM I TALKED TO THE TREE ADVOCATES ABOUT THIS TOO.
11:02:03AM WE NEED TO PROTECT TREE CANOPY AND WE NEED A VISION FOR WHAT
11:02:07AM THE CITY CAN LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE.
11:02:09AM THE FOUNDING PRIME MINISTER OF SINGAPORE BACK IN THE '60s
11:02:15AM PERSONALLY WENT THROUGH AND PICKED AND HELPED WORK WITH
11:02:19AM FOLKS ON PLANNING IT.
11:02:21AM THE NEXT PRIME MINISTER WHEN HE CAME TO TAMPA, GOING DOWN
11:02:26AM 275 DOWNTOWN TO THE AIRPORT.
11:02:28AM IF YOU TAKE THE ROAD FROM SINGAPORE AIRPORT TO DOWNTOWN, IT
11:02:31AM IS COMPLETELY COVERED WITH TREES.
11:02:33AM AND IT IS A WIDER HIGHWAY THAN 275.
11:02:37AM AND IT IS COMPLETELY COVERED WITH TREE CANOPY.
11:02:40AM WE TOOK THE PRIME MINISTER OF SINGAPORE DOWN 275, WE HAD TO
11:02:44AM TALK TO HIM TO DISTRACT HIM SO HE WOULDN'T LOOK.
11:02:47AM I WISH WE COULD HAVE VISION NOW.
11:02:50AM BAYSHORE THE TREES ARE GETTING LARGE ENOUGH TO PROVIDE SOME
11:02:54AM CANOPY.
11:02:55AM WE NEED TO THINK OF THIS AND PUSH IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL NOT
11:02:59AM JUST NUMBERS AND REPLACEMENT BUT STRATEGICALLY HOW DO WE
11:03:03AM BUILD THE TYPE OF CANOPY TO BRING THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE
11:03:07AM TOWN AND MAKE US RESILIENT AND THE VIABLE ENVIRONMENT THAT
11:03:11AM WE WANT TO LIVE IN.
11:03:12AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS NOT JUST RECRUITING COMPANIES BUT
11:03:15AM LIVABLE ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE BEST PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE.
11:03:20AM MORE WILL STAY AND OUR KIDS WON'T MOVE BACK UNLESS WE HAVE
11:03:25AM GREAT NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:03:26AM THANK YOU.
11:03:26AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:03:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, I AM JUST LOOKING AT THE
11:03:31AM POSSIBILITY OF THE HISTORY OF THE TREES.
11:03:35AM WHEN I SEE YOUR -- 10% INCREASE IN CANOPY CAN REDUCE THE
11:03:39AM HEAT BY 3% TO 32%.
11:03:43AM YOU DON'T TELL ME WHAT 10% IS.
11:03:45AM YOU EXPLAIN IT THAT WAY, THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND.
11:03:48AM 10% OF A DOLLAR WE KNOW WHAT IT IS.
11:03:50AM >> THAT IS NOT OUR RESULT.
11:03:52AM THAT IS A SCIENCE -- THE SCIENCE LITERATURE, PEOPLE WHO HAVE
11:03:57AM DONE THIS IN GENERAL, 10% INCREASE IN TREE CANOPY CAN LEAD
11:04:03AM TO THIS RANGE OF IMPROVED BENEFITS.
11:04:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE REALIZE IT AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU
11:04:09AM HAVE DONE.
11:04:09AM IT IS FANTASTIC.
11:04:10AM EVEN THEN.
11:04:11AM ANY ONE OF THE SEVEN WILL GIVE A SPEECH, 10% OF SOMETHING.
11:04:16AM WHAT IS THE SOMETHING OF 10%.
11:04:18AM TWO TREES, 10,000 TREES, 5,000 TREE, I DON'T KNOW.
11:04:23AM IF YOU CAN MAYBE SOMEHOW GIVE US THAT INFORMATION SO WHEN WE
11:04:26AM TALK TO SOMEONE WE CAN TELL THEM WHAT IT IS.
11:04:28AM BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO LOOK LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE
11:04:32AM SAYING.
11:04:32AM >> YEAH, WE HAVE BEEN PLAYING AROUND WITH THAT.
11:04:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY,
11:04:38AM REALLY TO POINT.
11:04:38AM YOU PLANT THEM -- YOU PLANT THEM UNDER THE --
11:04:42AM >> UTILITIES.
11:04:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: UTILITY LINES.
11:04:45AM THAT IS WHY THE UTILITY LINES BACK 10, 15 YEARS AGO SOMEBODY
11:04:49AM GOT THE IDEA SOMEWHERE AND GOT THE PERMIT OR WERE TOLD TO DO
11:04:54AM THAT.
11:04:54AM ANY TIME THERE IS A LINE, INSTEAD OF A TREE, YOU SAW A SLEEP
11:04:58AM TREE LOOKED LIKE THE SLINGSHOT OLDER WHERE THE CENTER IS
11:05:03AM MISSING MOST OF THE COVERAGE YOU HAD TO START WITH.
11:05:05AM I DON'T BLAME ANYONE.
11:05:07AM BECAUSE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF A HIGH WIND OR A HURRICANE
11:05:13AM COMING BY REALLY CREATE WILLING HAVOC.
11:05:15AM BUT -- CREATING HAVOC.
11:05:18AM IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SO MANY TREES
11:05:23AM AND WHERE THE CITY COME IN AND WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE TREES.
11:05:25AM WERE THEY PLANTED.
11:05:26AM HOMETOWN MANY PLANTED WERE STILL GOING STRONG.
11:05:30AM HOW MANY YEARS TO REPLENISH.
11:05:33AM I CAN SEE -- I LOOK AT THINGS REALISTICALLY.
11:05:37AM I THINK I DO ANYWAY, YOU SEE ONE TREE THAT IS SO MANY YEARS
11:05:41AM OLD AND TEN TREES COMING UP, HOW LONG ARE THE TEN TREES OR
11:05:45AM 20 TREES THAT ARE EQUAL TO THE -- WHAT THAT ONE IS DOING OR
11:05:49AM CALCULATING INSTRUMENTS THAT YOU GAVE US.
11:05:51AM AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT I DON'T KNOW.
11:05:53AM AND SOMEHOW, IF WE CAN GET A REPORT ON THAT -- I AM NOT
11:05:56AM ASKING YOU -- ANYONE CAN DO IT.
11:05:59AM I THINK IT WILL BE VERY INFORMATIONAL TO TELL THE PUBLIC.
11:06:03AM AND WE HAVE TO SURE UP OUR OWN INFORMATION WHEN WE DO THINGS
11:06:08AM BECAUSE WE PASSED THINGS IN THE PAST, I AM TALKING ABOUT 10,
11:06:12AM 15 YEARS AGO.
11:06:14AM HAD SWALES.
11:06:17AM SWALES TO HOLD WATER.
11:06:21AM YOU KEPT IT AND YOUR WIFE KEPT IT BUT THOSE COME IN DON'T
11:06:26AM KNOW ABOUT THE SWALES.
11:06:27AM THEY SEE IT AS A NUISANCE AND WANT TO PLANT FLOWERS.
11:06:32AM WHAT IS THE FIRST THING THEY DO, THEY COVER THE SWALE.
11:06:35AM WHAT HAPPENS THEN?
11:06:36AM WE HAVE FLOODING.
11:06:37AM THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.
11:06:40AM WHEN WE PUT SOMETHING IN THE BOOKS AND DO A STUDY AND RECORD
11:06:44AM THE HOUSE IT IS REPORTED THAT THE SWALES ARE PART OF THE
11:06:48AM SALE.
11:06:48AM SOMEHOW.
11:06:48AM WE HAVE THESE THINGS TO WORK TO MAKE SURE IT IS DONE.
11:06:53AM APPRECIATIVE.
11:06:54AM I WAS IN CONTACT WITH THE GODFATHER OF PSYCHIATRIES
11:07:03AM JOE CHILLURA.
11:07:03AM THE OXYGEN IT GIVES UP.
11:07:05AM BENEFITS ARE ENORMOUS.
11:07:08AM HISPANICS AND THE AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE IN NEED.
11:07:11AM A VERY GOOD SOLUTION.
11:07:13AM AM I RIGHT MR. GUDES.
11:07:15AM THE TREES ARE VERY INEXPENSIVE UNTIL YOU COME TO PRUNE IT.
11:07:19AM YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO PRUNE IT.
11:07:21AM YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ROOF.
11:07:22AM YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SIDEWALK.
11:07:24AM AND THAT IS PROBLEM WHY THEY DON'T PLANT TREES.
11:07:27AM AN ECONOMICAL THING THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD.
11:07:32AM NOTICE I SAID "WE".
11:07:34AM THESE ARE THE THINGS WE WILL WORK ON AND TREES IN SOME AREAS
11:07:38AM AND NOT IN OTHERS.
11:07:39AM THAT IS NOT A GOOD THING.
11:07:41AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPORT AND A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
11:07:44AM AND TWO TIMES SEVEN IS STILL 14 TO LISTEN TO YOU AND COME UP
11:07:51AM WITH A SOLUTION.
11:07:53AM NOT THE RANKING NUMBER ONE, BUT TO BE SUPERIOR IN NUMBER
11:07:57AM ONE.
11:07:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:07:59AM >> ONE THING TO ADD YOU MENTIONED TREE GROWTH AND HOW FAST
11:08:05AM IS GROWS.
11:08:06AM ONE THING I DID FOR THE REPORT.
11:08:07AM THE 20 YEARS OF ON-GROUND MEASUREMENT.
11:08:13AM >> ANOTHER THING TO NOTE.
11:08:15AM WHEN YOU HAVE A BIG TREE ON THE PROPERTY, HOW MANY MILLIONS
11:08:18AM OF ACORNS NEVER GERMINATED.
11:08:21AM HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF SEEDLINGS GOT MOWED OVER.
11:08:27AM THESE THINGS MADE IT.
11:08:28AM A NUMBERS GAME.
11:08:29AM WHEN YOU LOSE THAT, YOU CAN PLANT A BUNCH OF TREES BUT
11:08:33AM ATTRITION OVER THE 30, 40 YEARS IT TAKES TO GET BACK TO THAT
11:08:37AM SIZE.
11:08:37AM AND WE TRY TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
11:08:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:08:41AM I JUST HAVE ONE.
11:08:42AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TOUCHED ON THAT.
11:08:44AM BACK IN 1948 WHEN THIS ALL WAS STARTING WHY YOU ARE YOUR
11:08:49AM SURVEYS, DIFFERENT AGES FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF TREES.
11:08:53AM 75 YEARS SINCE HAVE A LOT OF THESE OAK TREES THAT WERE
11:08:57AM PLANTED IN 1948 HAVE NOW OUTLIVED THEIR EXPECTANCY AND GOT
11:09:02AM DISEASE, ROT OR BLOWN OVER BY STORMS.
11:09:04AM ARE THESE THE TYPE OF TREES WE NEED TO REPLACE THAT HAVE NOW
11:09:09AM GOTTEN UP THERE IN AGE?
11:09:11AM >> YEAH, EVERY TREE HAS A FUNCTIONAL LIFESPAN.
11:09:15AM ONE TREE THAT PEOPLE WILL THINK ABOUT IS A LAUREL OAK,
11:09:18AM RIGHT.
11:09:19AM LIKE 100 YEARS IS A GOOD AGE FOR THAT.
11:09:22AM A FAST-GROWING TREE THAT GROWS FAST, DIES YOUNG, RIGHT.
11:09:26AM BUT EVERY TREE IS DIFFERENT.
11:09:28AM AND THE BEST SENSE OF WHETHER OR NOT -- THOSE KIND OF THINGS
11:09:32AM HELP MANAGING LARGER POPULATIONS BUT THE BEST WAY TO ASSESS
11:09:37AM THE FUTURE OF YOUR TREE IS TO LOOK AT THE ONE IN FRONT OF
11:09:40AM YOU AND SEE HOW HEALTHY IT IS.
11:09:43AM THAT TAKES A PROFESSIONAL AND NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE
11:09:45AM RESOURCES FOR.
11:09:46AM NO MAGICAL CUT-OFF AGE FOR A TREE.
11:09:50AM IN GOOD CONDITION, WILL LIVE FOR ANOTHER TEN YEARS.
11:09:54AM TREES DON'T DO ANYTHING FAST.
11:09:56AM THEY ARE ON THEIR OWN PIECE.
11:09:58AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WHAT IS THE LOSS OF THE TREE CANOPY TO DO
11:10:01AM THE TREES 75 YEARS AGO PLANTED AND DYING OFF.
11:10:05AM >> A LOT OF FACTORS IN THERE.
11:10:07AM THE AGE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:10:08AM IF THEY INVESTED HEAVILY IN THE LAUREL OAK, WILL BE ONE OF
11:10:12AM MANY EXPLANATIONS WHY THERE WOULD BE A DECREASE THERE.
11:10:15AM I WOULD SAY THINGS LIKE HURRICANES, BUT WE SEE REGIONAL
11:10:19AM WITHIN THE CITY.
11:10:20AM NOT ACROSS THE CITY.
11:10:21AM SO THAT INDICATES THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON IN THOSE AREAS
11:10:25AM DIFFERENTLY WHICH CAN BE AGE -- THE TREES THAT ARE PLANTED
11:10:29AM 50 YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, OR DEVELOPMENT.
11:10:32AM >> THE GOOD NEWS IS I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE PLANTING LAUREL
11:10:38AM OAKS ANY MORE.
11:10:39AM LIVE OAKS LIVE LONG, NOT LAUREL OAKS.
11:10:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MY NEXT QUESTION.
11:10:45AM THERE ARE NO BAD TREES.
11:10:46AM INVASIVE SPECIES I WISH WERE NOT AROUND HERE BUT NO BAD
11:10:50AM TREES.
11:10:51AM HOOVER, A PALM TREE.
11:10:53AM A CREPE MYRTLE WILL GIVE US THE CANOPY, AND THOSE ARE THE TWO
11:10:57AM BIGGEST TREES PLANTED IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
11:11:01AM WILL BE MORE ADVISABLE TO ASK -- MANDATING MORE THE OAK
11:11:06AM TREES BE PLANTED INSTEAD OF THOSE AND DO CONSTRUCTION?
11:11:10AM >> I THINK THE BIGGER THE TREE, THE MORE BENEFITS, RIGHT.
11:11:13AM YOU JUST NEED THE SITE THAT CAN HOUSE THAT AGAIN.
11:11:16AM IF YOU SHOEHORN A BIGGER TREE INTO MORE COMPACT DEVELOPMENT
11:11:22AM IN FIVE, TEN, 15 YEARS SIDEWALKS LIFTING AND THINGS LIKE
11:11:27AM THAT WHICH MAY BE PROBLEMATIC, RIGHT.
11:11:29AM WE HAVE SEEN WHOLE DEVELOPMENTS REMOVE 1,000 TREES AT A TIME
11:11:33AM LIKE PASCO COUNTY BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE THAT.
11:11:37AM SOMETIMES THE PALM AND THE CREPE MYRTLE LE IS THE ONLY SITE
11:11:43AM TREE FOR THE SITE IT WAS AGAIN.
11:11:45AM AND NOT MUCH OF A TREE.
11:11:48AM IF THERE IS MUCH SPACE, YES, THE BIGGER TREE THE BETTER.
11:11:52AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:11:53AM ANY QUESTIONS?
11:11:59AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE HAVE MORE ON THIS ITEM.
11:12:01AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: GO AHEAD.
11:12:02AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
11:12:04AM I WANT TO REITERATE THIS IS A CYCLICAL PROCESS.
11:12:07AM THE STEP WE ARE AT RIGHT NOW IS TO RELEASE THE REPORT
11:12:11AM FORMALLY TO THE PUBLIC.
11:12:12AM WE WILL BE HOSTING A MEETING MOST LIKELY IN JUNE TO GO INTO
11:12:17AM MORE DETAIL.
11:12:18AM A LOT LONGER PRESENTATION.
11:12:19AM ANSWER QUESTIONS.
11:12:20AM AND THEN AS PART OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES PROCESS, WE TAKE
11:12:24AM THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE BACK TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES
11:12:28AM ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
11:12:28AM THE COMMITTEE LAST MET LAST YEAR TO -- IT WAS REALLY
11:12:34AM REINVIGORATING THE COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT WAS DORMANT AT THAT
11:12:38AM TIME.
11:12:38AM APT THAT TIME THE COMMITTEE DECIDED THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO
11:12:41AM MEET AGAIN UNTIL THERE WAS DATA TO REVIEW.
11:12:44AM NOW THAT WE HAVE THAT DATA WE CAN RECONVENE AND DECIDE WHAT
11:12:47AM NEXT STEPS WILL BE.
11:12:48AM THE PURPOSE OF THAT COMMITTEE IS TO USE THE MANAGEMENT PLAN
11:12:51AM TO LOOK AT THE DATA AND REPRIORTIZE WHAT TO DO NEXT BASED ON
11:12:56AM THE MOST SUFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE SOURCE OF RESOURCE.
11:13:00AM WHAT CAN GET US BACK TO WHERE WE WANT TO BE WITH THE
11:13:04AM RESOURCES WE HAVE AND WHAT WE NEED.
11:13:06AM THAT GROUP IS STILL ACTIVE AND THE NEXT STEP IS TO RECONVENE
11:13:10AM THEM HAVE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS GO THROUGH THE INTERNAL
11:13:13AM TECHNICAL WORKING GROUP AND BRING THAT BACK FORWARD AS A
11:13:16AM RESOURCE OR A BUDGET -- A BUDGET REQUEST.
11:13:18AM SO THE NEXT PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION IS THE RESPONSES TO
11:13:22AM THE MOTION REGARDING THE TREE TRUST FUND.
11:13:27AM SHERISHA AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THE MONEY GOING IN AND THE
11:13:32AM MONEY COMING OUT AND ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WITH OF
11:13:35AM DETAILS.
11:13:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: STEPHEN, I WANT TO ASK A QUICK QUESTION OF
11:13:40AM WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
11:13:42AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: YES, SIR.
11:13:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE HALF THE DECLINE FROM 2011 AND 2016.
11:13:48AM ANYTHING DONE IN 2016, LIKE WHAT YOU ARE TALKING OF DOING,
11:13:52AM ANY PROACTIVE DONE TO CHANGE THE DRE' DIRECTION OF IT AND IF
11:13:56AM THINGS WORKED OR DIDN'T WORK?
11:13:58AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE USED MANAGEMENT PLAN ADOPTED IN 2014,
11:14:02AM THE MANAGEMENT PLAN IS ENORMOUS AND HAS ANYTHING YOU CAN
11:14:06AM THINK OF IN IT.
11:14:06AM THE DATA IS FOCUSED ON WHICH OF THE ACTION ITEMS NEED TO BE
11:14:13AM PURSUED.
11:14:14AM POLICY CHANGES IN 2019 IN PROCESS OF REMOVING TREES ON
11:14:22AM SINGLE-FAMILY LOTS.
11:14:22AM TREE-MENDOUS PROGRAM.
11:14:26AM I CAN'T REALLY POINT TO ONE THING THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN
11:14:29AM TREASURED BY THE DATE.
11:14:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM CURIOUS IF THERE WAS A PLAN AT THAT
11:14:34AM TIME AND IF THE PLAN DIDN'T WORK BECAUSE THE NUMBERS KEPT
11:14:37AM GOING DOWN JUST SO WE CAN LEARN FROM WHATEVER THAT PROCESS
11:14:41AM WAS.
11:14:41AM THANK YOU.
11:14:42AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
11:14:45AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: SO CAN YOU BRING UP THE SECOND
11:14:47AM PRESENTATION, PLEASE.
11:14:48AM OKAY, SO THE TREE TRUST FUND -- THE PURPOSE OF THE TREE
11:14:59AM TRUST FUND TO HOUSE THE MONIES BROUGHT IN THROUGH PERMITS.
11:15:02AM THE METHODOLOGY FOR HOW FUNDS ARE COLLECTED.
11:15:07AM IT IS NOT A ONE-TO-ONE RATIO.
11:15:09AM NOT IF YOU TAKE DOWN ONE SMALL TREE, PUT UP ANOTHER SMALL
11:15:14AM TREE.
11:15:15AM TAKE DOWN A BIG TREE, YOU HAVE TO PUT BACK A BIG TREE.
11:15:19AM THE TREES ARE ALL BASED ON THE SAME SIZED THREE,
11:15:23AM TWO-AND-A-HALF-INCH CALIBER.
11:15:26AM ONE SMALL TREE, AND SMALL TREE.
11:15:29AM YOU TAKE DOWN A LARGE TREE, PUT MULTIPLE SMALL TREES.
11:15:33AM THE PURPOSE OF THE FUND FOR PEOPLE CANNOT FIT ON THEIR
11:15:37AM PROPERTY OR NOT ABLE TO DO SO FOR SOME OTHER REASON TO
11:15:40AM ACTUALLY PAY IN LIEU, THE COST OF THE SMALL TREES THEY WOULD
11:15:45AM HAVE TO PLANT BACK.
11:15:46AM THAT IS WHAT WE REFER TO IT AS MITIGATION.
11:15:50AM NOT A PENALTY OR FINE.
11:15:53AM MITIGATION AND PROPORTIONATE TO THE COST OF THE TREE THEY
11:15:56AM ARE REQUIRED TO PUT BACK, NOT THE TREE THEY ARE TAKING OUT.
11:15:59AM THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER WHEN IT COMES
11:16:01AM TO THE GUYS, WHY THEY ARE THERE, AND HOW THEY ARE DEVELOPED.
11:16:04AM IT IS A SCIENTIFIC PROCESS.
11:16:05AM BRIAN AND HIS TEAM OF ARBORISTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY ALL WORK
11:16:09AM IT FACILITATE THIS PROCESS SES, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PLACE
11:16:13AM BACK TREES BASED ON THE METHOD.
11:16:16AM THAT IS THE DATE.
11:16:17AM IF YOU CANNOT DO THAT GO THROUGH THE ZONING AND THE VARIANCE
11:16:21AM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TREE IS SCHEDULED TO PAY.
11:16:24AM THERE ARE TWO SETS OF TREE FUNDS.
11:16:29AM THERE IS THE -- WE CALL IT THE OLD TREE FUND OR THE BIG
11:16:32AM BUCKET TREE FUND AND THE NEW TREE FUND.
11:16:35AM THE OLD TREE FUND EXISTED PRIOR TO 2019 WHEN THE ORDINANCE
11:16:39AM WAS CHANGED AND THE NEW TREE SUPERFUND WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN
11:16:44AM PLACE.
11:16:44AM WHAT THE CURRENT TREE TRUST FUND REQUIRES.
11:16:46AM AS FUNDS COME IN, THEY ARE DEPOSITED INTO A SUBFUND WITHIN
11:16:50AM THE NEW FUND BASED ON THE PLANNING DISTRICT OF WHICH THEY
11:16:54AM WERE COLLECTED.
11:16:54AM THE REPORTING TO REPORT FOR THE EXPENDITURES WAS TIED TO THE
11:16:59AM CODE CHANGE IN 2019.
11:17:00AM TIED TO THE NEW BUCKETS BASED ON PLANNING DISTRICT.
11:17:03AM WE ARE CURRENTLY NOT SPENDING MONEY OUT OF THESE BUCKETS.
11:17:07AM THE REASON WHY, WE STILL HAVE MONEY IN THE OLD FUND BASED ON
11:17:10AM THE OLD CODE CHANGE -- BEFORE IT CHANGED AND THAT IS WHERE
11:17:14AM THE FUNDING IS COMING OUT OF FOR THE PROGRAM THAT SHERISHA
11:17:18AM IS COMING UP.
11:17:19AM JUST TO BE CLEAR, TWO FUNDS, THE CURRENT FUND BEFORE 2019.
11:17:23AM THE OLD FUN.
11:17:24AM ONE CITY WIDE BUCKET AND THE RULES AND REPORTING IS
11:17:29AM DIFFERENT.
11:17:29AM ALL CHANGE IN THE 2019.
11:17:30AM WHEN WE REPORT TO YOU, YOU WILL SEE A CITY WIDE FUND THAT THE
11:17:33AM IN AM IS ONLY GOING TO KEEP GOING DOWN AND YOU SEE THE NEW
11:17:37AM FUND WHICH IS FIVE SEPARATE ACCOUNTS AND THOSE NUMBERS WILL
11:17:40AM CONTINUE TO GO UP UNTIL WE SPEND DOWN THE CITYWIDE FUND AND
11:17:43AM START DRAWING DOWN CONTINUE TO THE NEW FIVE DISTRICT FUNDS.
11:17:47AM SO -- THIS IS THE CODE SECTION THAT SET FORTH THOSE.
11:17:50AM SO, AGAIN, ONE FUNDING SOURCE BEFORE.
11:17:54AM NO NEW MONIES ARE BEING ADDED TO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS NOW
11:17:57AM UNSETTLED.
11:17:58AM ONCE THAT IS EXPEND PENDED.
11:18:00AM WE WILL SWITCH OVER TO THE FIVE NEW DISTRICTS.
11:18:03AM NOW SHERISHA WILL TALK TO WHAT THE BALANCES ARE IN THOSE
11:18:08AM DISTRICTS, WHAT THE RECENT EXPENDITURES HAVE BEEN FROM THOSE
11:18:12AM ACCOUNTS, AND THEN PELL SWITCH OVER TO THE INITIAL STEPS WE
11:18:15AM ARE TAKING OF HOW WE WILL BE SPENDING DOWN SOME OF THOSE
11:18:18AM MONIES.
11:18:18AM I WILL PASS IT OVER SO SHERISHA.
11:18:21AM HERE YOU GO.
11:18:23AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:18:25AM SHERISHA HILLS, DIRECTOR OF PARK AND RECREATION.
11:18:31AM AS STEPHEN MENTIONED, THE CURRENT BALANCES FOR THE TREE TRUST
11:18:35AM FUND FUND.
11:18:36AM AS HE SAID BEFORE THE TREES COLLECTED MITIGATION FOR THE
11:18:40AM TREE REMOVAL ON PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PROPERTY.
11:18:42AM THIS MONEY IS LIMITED TO THE SELECTION, ACQUISITION AND
11:18:47AM SELECTION OF MAINTENANCE.
11:18:47AM AS OF THIS MONTH HERE ARE THE FUND.
11:18:49AM THE OLD TRUST FUND, 2019 AND PRIOR, $778,000 AND EACH BUCKET
11:18:57AM AND DISTRICT YOU WANT TO CALL IT IS LISTED THERE.
11:19:00AM RECENT EXPENDITURES WE WILL GO THROUGH THERE.
11:19:04AM IN BETWEEN INDIVIDUAL TREE PLANTS, THE TREE PROGRAM.
11:19:07AM THE TREEMENDOUS TREE.
11:19:10AM PARKS PROJECT, WORK WITH KEEP TAMPA BEAUTIFUL AND OTHER
11:19:14AM PROJECTS IN THERE AS WELL THE ANALYSIS OF PLANNING SUPPORT
11:19:17AM THAT IS HERE IS A CURRENT BREAKDOWN.
11:19:20AM THESE ARE THE MOST RECENT -- NOT TOTAL BUT JUST RECENT.
11:19:23AM THEN ONE COUNTY MOTIONS WAS TO BREAK DOWN THE TREE PLANTS
11:19:29AM PER QUARTER AND PER YEAR.
11:19:30AM WE WENT BACK TO FY '22 AND A BREAKDOWN WITH A QUARTER OF
11:19:38AM 3,000 TREES PLANTED IN FISCAL YEAR '22 TO THE RIGHT WITH THE
11:19:42AM DOUBLE DIAGRAM.
11:19:43AM TREMENDOUS TREES, PLANNING AND THROUGH THE PLANNING AND
11:19:49AM DESIGN TEAM THAT PLANTS OUT IN OUR PARKS AND RIGHT-OF-WAYS
11:19:52AM THAT I MENTIONED BEFORE AND THESE ARE THE FIRST TWO
11:19:56AM QUARTERS.
11:19:56AM THUS FAR IN '23, A BREAKDOWN OF 1200 TREES TO FAR.
11:20:02AM SO THAT IS OUR CURRENT PLANS WHAT WE HAVE.
11:20:07AM PLANTING WHERE WE ARE AT.
11:20:13AM >> WILL SAY A FEW WORDS OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT STAFF
11:20:18AM HAS COME FORWARD WITH.
11:20:19AM AFTER THAT, WE HAVE OUR PARTNERS AND SAVE TIME AT THE END TO
11:20:26AM SPEAK TO YOU AS WELL ON THE INPUT.
11:20:27AM >> GOOD MORNING, WIT REMER, THE PARK OFFICER.
11:20:39AM AND THE TEAM DID A GOOD JOB GETTING TREES OUT, BUT CLEARLY
11:20:44AM WORK TO DO.
11:20:44AM YESTERDAY, THE MAYOR ANNOUNCED A NEW STRATEGIC INITIATIVE
11:20:50AM CALLS TREES FOR TAMPA WITH THE GOAL OF PLANTING 30,000 TREES
11:20:53AM -- CAN I DO THAT?
11:20:55AM ZOOM.
11:20:56AM THAT -- THERE WE GO.
11:20:59AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
11:21:00AM SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK PER -- PROFESSOR LANDRY.
11:21:06AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: EXCUSE ME, CAN WE HAVE IT ON OUR MONITORS UP
11:21:11AM HERE ON THE DAIS?
11:21:13AM THANK YOU.
11:21:13AM >> MENTIONED THRESHOLD OF BIODIVERSITY.
11:21:16AM A FEDERAL INITIATIVE TO PRESERVE 30% OF CONSERVATION AREA BY
11:21:21AM THE YEAR 2030 AND VERY GOOD GOAL.
11:21:23AM WE WANT TO BE ABOVE THE 30% THRESHOLD OF URBAN TREE CANOPY
11:21:27AM AND ALLITERATION OF 30,000 TREES BY 2030.
11:21:31AM TREE.
11:21:32AM MENDOUS DOES 100 TREE AS YEAR, BRAD'S TEAM AND PLANNING AND
11:21:38AM DESIGN DO KIND OF PLAN BIG MOBILITY PROJECTS.
11:21:41AM PARTNER PLANTS.
11:21:43AM AND A LOT OF ROOM IN THE MIDDLE THERE THAT WE WERE KIND OF
11:21:46AM MISSING.
11:21:47AM THE MAJOR IS KIND OF SUGGESTED THIS SIX-PART STRATEGY THAT
11:21:51AM DOVETAILS INTO THE URBAN MANAGEMENT PLAN AND KIND OF
11:21:55AM REPRIORITIZES THINGS.
11:21:56AM I WANTED TO LAY OUT A COUPLE OF THOSE FOR YOU.
11:21:59AM I AM SO EAGER TO GO PLANT TREES BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU OUR
11:22:03AM TREE EXPERTS IN THE HOUSE.
11:22:04AM OUR ARBORISTS, THEY SAY YOU GO THE TO FOCUS ON MAINTENANCE.
11:22:08AM PART OF THE LOSS FROM GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
11:22:11AM PART OF THE LOSS FROM AGE AND CANOPY.
11:22:15AM A OF THE THIRD THING, A HANDS-OFF APPROACH TO MAINTENANCE
11:22:22AM AND A PRESERVATIONIST KIND OF COMMUNITY WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE
11:22:25AM THE FUNDS OR THE PUBLIC'S UNDERSTANDING OF MAINTENANCE AND
11:22:29AM ARBORISTS ARE TRYING TO BRING IT FORWARD AND A TREE IS LIKE
11:22:33AM ANY OTHER ASSET THAT THE CITY OWNS, A PUMP, A PIPE, A CAR
11:22:37AM THAT HAS TO GO IN FOR A PERIODIC MAINTENANCE.
11:22:40AM WE NEED TO TAKE BETTER CARE OF THE CANOPY.
11:22:44AM MAY BE SPENDING DOWN THE TREE TRUST FUND, AND THE HISTORIC
11:22:49AM FEDERAL INVESTMENT TO THE URBAN TREE CANOPY OF $1.5 BILLION
11:22:54AM WHICH IS THE CITY WILL BE ACTIVELY APPLYING FOR.
11:22:57AM MAINTENANCE IS IMPORTANT.
11:22:58AM MAYOR'S GIVEAWAY.
11:23:00AM SIX VARIETY OF TREES.
11:23:01AM I FORGET TO ASK.
11:23:04AM THIS IDEA, COUNCILWOMAN, WHAT TYPES OF TREES PEOPLE WANT.
11:23:08AM FOUR TYPES OF TREES FOR THE 1,000 MYSTERY TREE GIVEAWAY, THE
11:23:13AM FIRST 233 TREES THAT PEOPLE WANTED FIRST COME FIRST SERVE
11:23:18AM WAS RED MAPLE.
11:23:19AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS BUT LIVE OAK WAS THE LAST THING.
11:23:22AM THE MAINTENANCE PIECE.
11:23:25AM THEY DON'T WANT TO RAKE.
11:23:28AM RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE.
11:23:30AM NO WRONG TREE UNLESS IT IS INVASIVE AND WE ARE TRYING TO
11:23:34AM PROVIDE A VARIETY OF OPTIONS.
11:23:35AM MAKE AN INTERNAL POLICY.
11:23:38AM SHERRY MULLINS AND HER TEAM IN TREEMENDOUS.
11:23:43AM SPENDS TIME WITH YOU ON THE PROPERTY AND LOOK FOR THE BEST
11:23:48AM PLACE TO PLANT.
11:23:49AM ELIMINATING THAT PROGRAM TO TWO TREES.
11:23:52AM WITH SHERRY ON THE PROPERTY, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLANT
11:23:56AM FIVE, LET'S DO IT.
11:23:57AM MORE ON THE GROUND HOW THAT TREEMENDOUS.
11:24:01AM STORMWATER PONDS, REMAINING PARCELS.
11:24:05AM AND WORKING WITH COMMUNITY ASSOCIATIONS, CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS.
11:24:08AM JUST YESTERDAY FINALLY WE WERE ABLE TO DELIVER A PROMISE
11:24:11AM MADE TO THE DAVIS ISLAND SAVE ASSOCIATION.
11:24:14AM TALKING ABOUT TREES ON THE TRAIL.
11:24:16AM THE GREEN TEAM IS OUT ON DAVIS ISLAND PLANTING TREES AT THE
11:24:22AM REQUEST OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND WANT TO DO MORE THAN
11:24:25AM THAT.
11:24:25AM IN ADDITION, THE NEIGHBORING PLANNING WORK WITH
11:24:29AM ASSOCIATIONS THAT WANT TO GET TOGETHER ON A SATURDAY.
11:24:31AM DROP TREES.
11:24:32AM BRING IN HELP WITH THE GREEN TEAM AND NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS
11:24:36AM AND HELP PLANT TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND ON --
11:24:43AM RIGHT-OF-WAYS WHERE IT MADE SENSE.
11:24:44AM VOUCHER -- WORKING WITH LOCAL NURSERIES SIMILAR TO E-BIKE
11:24:50AM AND ANY POINT IN THE YEAR GET A TREE AND TAKE IT TO A LOCAL
11:24:54AM NURSERY THAT WE WORK WITH AND GET A NATIVE TREE TO GO AND
11:24:58AM PLANT IT YOURSELF.
11:24:59AM FINALLY OUR FOLKS WILL BE HAPPY ABOUT THIS TO ENFORCE THE
11:25:03AM LAWS AND MAXIMIZE FINES WHERE APPROPRIATE.
11:25:06AM SOMETIMES PEOPLE TAKE DOWN TREES ACCIDENTALLY OR THAT THEY
11:25:10AM DIDN'T KNOW THE RULES, BUT THE CASES THAT WE KNOW SOME
11:25:15AM NEFARIOUS ACTIVITY GOING ON JUST LIKE THE SOUTH OF GANDY OR
11:25:19AM THE GANDY BOULEVARD $250000 FINE.
11:25:22AM WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MAXIMIZING
11:25:25AM THOSE FINES AND ENFORCING THEM AS APPROPRIATE.
11:25:28AM ULTIMATELY UP TO THE MANUEL STRAIGHT BUT WANT TO -- THE
11:25:32AM MANUEL STRAIGHT BUT WE WANTED A HANDS -- MAGISTRATE.
11:25:36AM BUT WE WANTED TO DO THAT.
11:25:39AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:25:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, ALL THREE OF YOU, OF THE FABULOUS
11:25:46AM PRESENTATION TALKING ABOUT TREES GETS ME EXCITED.
11:25:48AM I LOVE TREES.
11:25:49AM I LOVE THAT WE ARE GOING TO START FOCUSING ON THEM.
11:25:52AM I THINK THE MAYOR TALKED OF A NEW TREE CZAR.
11:25:57AM I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THAT.
11:25:58AM >> WE ARE WORKING WHETHER THAT WILL BE A NEW POSITION OR
11:26:02AM KIND OF REINVIGORATING STAFF THAT WE HAVE.
11:26:04AM WE NEED -- WE NEED MORE CAPACITY INTERNALLY TO HELP TAKE
11:26:09AM OWNERSHIP OF THIS.
11:26:10AM AND WE ARE EXPLORING THAT THROUGH THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW.
11:26:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:26:14AM BECAUSE I CAN TELL THAT YOU IS WHAT I AM HEARING FROM THE
11:26:16AM PUBLIC.
11:26:17AM THEY REALLY WANT SOMEONE WHO IS JUST FOCUSED ON TREES.
11:26:20AM I THINK WE WOULD GET A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR A ROLE LIKE THAT.
11:26:24AM I THINK THE RED MAPLE THING WAS FUNNY ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE A
11:26:32AM MAPLE NEXT TO MY HOUSE.
11:26:33AM NOT IN MY YARD BUT IN MY NEIGHBOR'S YARD.
11:26:36AM I END UP WITH THE LEAVES THAT ARE GIGANTIC.
11:26:39AM I THINK THAT IS FUNNY THAT PEOPLE WOULD RATHER HAVE A MAPLE
11:26:44AM THAN A OAK BECAUSE THOSE LEAVES ARE MUCH WORSE.
11:26:47AM I LOVE THE IDEA OF WORKING WITH RIGHT TREE, RIGHT PLACE.
11:26:50AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT -- IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE
11:26:53AM ONE WONDERFUL PERSON WHO CAN DO THAT, BUT THAT IS JUST NOT
11:26:57AM ENOUGH FOR A CITY OF 400,000 PEOPLE AND WITH THE AMOUNT OF
11:27:01AM LAND WE HAVE.
11:27:01AM SO I WOULD LOVE, AGAIN, TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS MORE ON DOING
11:27:07AM THAT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT I SEE A LOT OF.
11:27:09AM THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ON THE TREES.
11:27:12AM I AM REALLY GLAD WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THAT, ESPECIALLY IN
11:27:15AM PUBLIC AREAS.
11:27:16AM YOU WILL SEE THE TREES DYING, FALLING, AND MAYBE IF WE HAD
11:27:22AM DEALT WITH THAT EARLIER.
11:27:23AM I AM HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
11:27:24AM SO HOPEFULLY WHEN WE LOOK AT PARKS, I THINK OF PARKS I GO TO
11:27:30AM ALMOST DAILY OR PASS BY ON DRIVES AND SEEING TREES DECLINE.
11:27:34AM AND NOW THAT IS GREAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH
11:27:37AM THAT RIGHT AWAY.
11:27:39AM MAYBE TAKE THAT TREE OUT.
11:27:41AM PUT A NEW ONE IN.
11:27:42AM WHATEVER IT TAKES.
11:27:43AM ONE THING THAT WHEN I TALK TO THE PUBLIC, THEY MENTIONED IS
11:27:47AM THAT -- AND STEPHEN, YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS.
11:27:50AM IT WAS THE COST OF PUTTING -- OF PAYING FOR TREES THAT GO
11:27:54AM INTO THE TREE FUND.
11:27:56AM BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT IS A SET COST.
11:27:58AM I THINK IT IS $300 PER TREE?
11:28:02AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: $300 PER MITIGATION TREE.
11:28:04AM PER REPLACEMENT TREE, NOT PER TREE YOU ARE TAKING OUT.
11:28:09AM REPLACEMENT TREES AND HAVE TO DO TEN OF THEM.
11:28:12AM IT WOULD BE TEN.
11:28:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXACTLY.
11:28:15AM WHAT I AM HEARING YOU CAN'T BUY A TREE FOR $300.
11:28:18AM SO WE HAVE GOT TO CHANGE THAT COST, NOT NECESSARILY TO MAKE
11:28:26AM IT STATIC, BUT TO INCREASE IT WITH INFLATION OVER TIME AND
11:28:30AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:28:31AM BECAUSE WHAT I AM HEARING THAT $300 IS JUST NOT SIMPLY
11:28:35AM ENOUGH TO COVER NOT ONLY THE COST OF BEING A NEW TREE BU
11:28:38AM FOR MAINTENANCE OF IT.
11:28:40AM NOT THAT I WANT TO INCREASE COST FOR FOLKS, BUT IF WE ARE
11:28:45AM NOT GETTING THAT ONE FOR ONE THIS ENTIRE THING WAS PLANNED
11:28:48AM TO DO, THEN IT IS -- THEN WE ARE LOSING IN THE GRAND SCHEME.
11:28:54AM SO THAT WORRIES ME A LOT ACTUALLY.
11:28:56AM SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN TO DO INCREASE THAT TO
11:29:02AM WHAT IS APPROPRIATE.
11:29:04AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE JUST EVERY YEAR LOOK AT PARTICULAR COSTS.
11:29:07AM I MEAN PEOPLE -- THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO LOOK AT, AND SEE
11:29:12AM IN THE BUDGET HOW WE CAN DO THAT.
11:29:13AM THAT TREE COMMITTEE SHOULDN'T MEET TWICE A YEAR.
11:29:18AM THEY SHOULD BE MEETING MONTHLY.
11:29:20AM AND WE SHOULD BE HAVING PEOPLE WHO ARE COMMITTED TO WANTING
11:29:25AM TO MEET MONTHLY TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
11:29:27AM AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE ENOUGH PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY
11:29:33AM THAT WILL BE THRILLED TO PARTAKE IN THAT IF THE CURRENT
11:29:38AM MEMBERS CAN'T FIT THAT IN.
11:29:39AM SO I WOULD ADVOCATE STRONGLY FOR A MONTHLY TREE MEETING.
11:29:47AM ALSO, I WOULD LOVE -- I REALLY APPRECIATED KNOWING WHERE THE
11:29:51AM TREES WERE GOING OR THAT WE WERE PLANTING THEM, BUT I WOULD
11:29:54AM LOVE A MAP WHERE WE ARE PLANTING THEM EVEN IF JUST A HEAT
11:29:58AM MAP.
11:29:58AM PREFERABLY WOULD BE AN ACTUAL PLACE THEY ARE BEING PLANTED,
11:30:01AM BUT A HEAT MAP OF WHERE THE TREES ARE GOING AND THE TYPES OF
11:30:05AM TREES WE ARE PLANTING.
11:30:06AM WEATHER -- ALSO IN RESIDENTIAL AND PUBLIC SPACES, BECAUSE
11:30:11AM NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS -- THIS AMAZING ABILITY TO ZONE IN
11:30:16AM THAT THE UF AND USF FOLKS BROUGHT US.
11:30:21AM WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAG WHERE WE ARE PLANTING, WHAT WE ARE
11:30:25AM PLANTING HAND THIS WILL BE VERY VALUABLE IN THE FUTURE GOING
11:30:29AM FORWARD.
11:30:29AM AND -- OH, MY BIGGEST, BIGGEST, BIGGEST ISSUE OVERALL -- IT
11:30:38AM IS GREAT WE ARE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO DO THIS AND HAVING
11:30:40AM PEOPLE PUT IN MITIGATION TREES, BUT IF YOU PUT A NEW HOUSE
11:30:44AM ON A LOT AND TAKE OUT A BIG TREE AND PUTTING IN TWO TREES OR
11:30:48AM THREE TREES TO REPLACE, WHEN YOU SELL THAT HOUSE, THOSE
11:30:51AM PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW THEY CAN NOT CUT THOSE TREES DOWN.
11:30:54AM SO I SEE IT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:30:56AM I HEARD ABOUT IT IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THESE TREES
11:30:59AM ARE BEING CUT DOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THEM NOT
11:31:03AM REALIZING THAT THEY CAN NOT CUT THEM DOWN.
11:31:05AM IT IS NOT THEIR -- NOT A CHOICE.
11:31:07AM SO I AM QUITE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND WHAT KIND OF
11:31:14AM PROGRAMS.
11:31:14AM THIS GOES ALONG WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LATER ABOUT THE
11:31:18AM DRAINAGE DISHES.
11:31:19AM THE WHOLE IDEA.
11:31:21AM HOW DO WE EDUCATE THE PUBLIC THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT
11:31:24AM TO CHANGE WATER MITIGATION, TREE MITIGATION TYPE ISSUES IN A
11:31:29AM POSITIVE WAY.
11:31:33AM SO THAT, I THINK, THE MUCH, LARGER ISSUE GOING FORWARD.
11:31:39AM I LOVE THESE TREE THINGS BUT HOW DO WE LET PEOPLE KNOW IF
11:31:43AM THEY PURCHASE A PROPERTY A BRAND-NEW HOUSE OR WHEN IT IS
11:31:46AM SOLD THAT THEY CAN'T JUST CUT DOWN A TREE, EVEN IT IS SLOW.
11:31:50AM >> REMOVAL OF A MITIGATION TREE IS A ZONING VIOLATION.
11:31:54AM YOU CAN CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT.
11:31:56AM DEFINITELY NOT PERMITTED.
11:32:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW DO WE EDUCATE PEOPLE.
11:32:02AM I DON'T WANT THE FIRST TIME PEOPLE HEAR THAT TO BE A
11:32:06AM PUNITIVE SPOT.
11:32:07AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS SOMETHING TO ADD WITH THE THOUSANDS OF
11:32:11AM SIGNATURES YOU DO WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE OR IF -- IF THERE ARE
11:32:15AM SOME PARTICULAR TAGS WE CAN PUT ON A TREE.
11:32:20AM LABELS HAND THIS CAN SAY MITIGATION TREE.
11:32:25AM JUST A ONCE-A-YEAR REMINDER SOMEHOW.
11:32:29AM HOW ARE OTHER PLACES DOING THIS?
11:32:31AM BECAUSE THE MITIGATION -- WHAT IS GOING TO SAVE US FROM
11:32:34AM GOING DOWN TOMORROW -- I GUESS 28% NEXT TIME WE HAVE THIS
11:32:42AM REPORT.
11:32:42AM WE WANT TO STAY AT LEAST 30 OR HIGHER.
11:32:45AM >> COUNCILWOMAN, IF I CAN RESPOND TO TWO OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS.
11:32:49AM UP CAN'T GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION WITHOUT MENTIONS WE
11:32:53AM HAVE ONE -- IN MY BEEN, ONE OF THE BEST URBAN FORESTERS,
11:32:58AM ERIC MUKEY.
11:33:02AM HE SENDS A REPORT SHOWING THE TREE EMERGENCY HE IS
11:33:05AM RESPONDING TO.
11:33:06AM STAFF IS RESPONDING TO CITY TREES OF RIGHT-OF-WAYS THAT
11:33:11AM FALLEN OVER THE WEEKEND.
11:33:12AM ERIC DOES A GREAT JOB COMPILING ALL DATA THAT HE WILL BE
11:33:17AM HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL.
11:33:18AM TREEMENDOUS HAS A MAP THAT EVERY TREE THAT THE TREEMENDOUS
11:33:26AM PUT IN AND DO A GREAT JOB WITH DATA AND FOCUSED ON SURVEYING
11:33:32AM THE TREES AND BRING THAT DATA AND THE T-TAG GROUP HAS
11:33:36AM EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT AS WELL.
11:33:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK.
11:33:42AM THAT IS GOOD TO HEAR.
11:33:44AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
11:33:46AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT IS A GREAT REPORT IF YOU ARE A TREE
11:33:49AM LOVER.
11:33:49AM I AM AN UP-FRONT GUY.
11:33:51AM I HAVE SOME TREES IN MY HOUSE I WANT TO CUT THEM DOWN.
11:33:55AM I AM NOT A TREE GUY.
11:33:57AM I HEAR WHAT MR. MIRANDA SAID EARLIER.
11:34:02AM I DIDN'T SEE THE STUDY -- EAST TAMPA WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
11:34:05AM DOLLARS.
11:34:06AM EVERYBODY ELSE.
11:34:06AM WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COMMUNITIES.
11:34:08AM I SEE CERTAIN COMMUNITIES THAT LOVE TREES.
11:34:10AM THAT IS THE BEAUTIFICATION.
11:34:12AM THE AMBIENCE.
11:34:15AM YOU GO OTHER COMMUNITIES, TREES AREN'T THEIR CONCERN.
11:34:18AM I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN YOUR STUDY.
11:34:20AM WHEN I LOOK AT THE TREES IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES.
11:34:24AM THEY CALL MY OFFICE ALL THE TIME.
11:34:26AM THE TREES HAVE CRACKED THE SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
11:34:29AM THE TREE IS FALLING DOWN ON MY HOUSE BECAUSE IT IS ON THE --
11:34:33AM IT IS ON THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY HALF OF MY HARD AND THE CITY
11:34:38AM WON'T COME OUT AND WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ON IT AND THE TREE
11:34:41AM FALLS ON MY HOUSE.
11:34:42AM THEN THEY ARE CALLING ME ON THAT, MR. MIRANDA.
11:34:44AM GO TO THE BULK -- IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO A PROJECT, LET'S BE
11:34:47AM INCLUSIVE OF THE WHOLE PROJECT, NOT THREE-FOURTHS OF THAT
11:34:52AM PROJECT.
11:34:52AM YOU ARE MISSING -- THAT POOR PEOPLE CAN'T PAY TO CUT A TREE
11:34:59AM DOWN.
11:34:59AM HAVE A TREE GRANT IN EAST TAMPA BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD
11:35:04AM IT.
11:35:05AM YOU TALK OF COMMUNITIES AND THEY CALL SOMEBODY PAUSE THE
11:35:09AM TREE IS ROTTING.
11:35:10AM WHERE IS THE ARBORIST AT.
11:35:11AM IF I CALL SOMEBODY LIKE MISS JONES OVER OFF OF 434rd STREET
11:35:16AM AND CLIFF CALLED ME JUST BEFORE DAY OF THAT TREE IN HER YARD
11:35:22AM OR WE TALL TECO.
11:35:24AM I DON'T HEAR TECO IN THIS PRESENTATION.
11:35:27AM UP GET CALLS ALL THE TIME OF TREES AND WIRES.
11:35:29AM THEY CAN'T GET A TREE CUT DOWN PAUSE THE TREE IS GOING HOW
11:35:34AM THAT THE TECO.
11:35:34AM AND FORESTRY CAN'T TOUCH THAT TREE UNLESS TECO COMES OUT.
11:35:38AM A LOT OF OTHER MECHANICS IN THIS THING THAT WE AIN'T MUCH
11:35:42AM TALKED ABOUT.
11:35:43AM AND WHEN STORMS COME, 90% OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE BECAUSE
11:35:48AM TECO LINES OR VERIZON, WHATEVER, IS EMBEDDED IN THE TREES
11:35:52AM AND FALL ON THE ROAD.
11:35:54AM NOW I HAVE POWER LINES DOWN.
11:36:01AM IF WE DO IS A STUDY, LET'S HAVE THE STUDY.
11:36:06AM >> PROFESSOR ZARGER IS ON THE LINE AND THEY DID AN
11:36:11AM EXTRAORDINARY JOB OF TRYING TO REACH THOSE COMMUNITIES.
11:36:14AM IF PROFESSOR ZARGER IS ON, SHE MIGHT BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO
11:36:19AM THAT.
11:36:19AM SOMETHING THAT WE PAY CLOSE, CLOSE TOO.
11:36:21AM SUELING -- IF PROFESSOR ZARGER STILL ON.
11:36:26AM >> HELLO, REBECCA ZARGER, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME?
11:36:38AM >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE ME.
11:36:40AM JUST AUDIO.
11:36:42AM I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING ALONG.
11:36:43AM I AM IN NEW YORK CITY A,ND I WAS UNABLE TO BE THERE TODAY FOR
11:36:46AM THE PRESENTATION IN PERSON, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN GREAT
11:36:50AM QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS.
11:36:51AM COUNCILMAN GUDES, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK IN THE STUDY WE
11:36:57AM HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT YOU WERE
11:36:59AM JUST DESCRIBING AS TO INFORMATION THAT WAS SHARED WITH US
11:37:04AM ABOUT THE RISK OF TREES, PARTICULARLY IN EAST COMPANY, WEST
11:37:10AM COMPANY, AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY WHERE THE COST
11:37:13AM OF TREE MAINTENANCE IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE.
11:37:17AM JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THE INFORMATION WE HAVE FROM THE
11:37:20AM SURVEY.
11:37:21AM RESIDENTS IN HYPER INCOME BRACKETS TO RESPOND TO QUESTIONS
11:37:25AM OF THE EXPENSIVE TREE MAINTENANCE AGREED IT WAS EXPENSIVE.
11:37:30AM SOMETHING THAT IS A BIG ISSUE FOR PARTICIPANTS IN THE STUDY.
11:37:35AM WE DID PRESENT AT THE E.F. C.R.P. MEETINGS AND RESIDENTS
11:37:47AM FROM CITY OF TAMPA AND WHERE ONGOING MAINTENANCE IS A BIG
11:37:53AM CONCERN AND REPORTS IN THERE OF THE REPORT OF THE ISSUES
11:37:57AM THAT YOU ARE DESCRIBING.
11:37:58AM FOR EXAMPLE, IF A BIG STORM COMES THROUGH, A TREE BRANCH
11:38:02AM FALLS ON YOUR HOUSE.
11:38:04AM YOU ARE RENTING AND THE LANDLORD DOESN'T COME TO REPAIR IT
11:38:08AM AND LEFT WITH A TARP ON YOUR ROOF FOR MONTH AND MONTHS.
11:38:12AM I THINK IT IS I THINK AN IMPORTANT FINDING OF THE STUDY THAT
11:38:17AM TREE MAINTENANCE AND IN PARTICULAR SUPPORTING TREE
11:38:22AM MAINTENANCE THROUGH THE GRANT PROGRAMS SUCH AS THE EAST
11:38:27AM TAMPA PROGRAM THAT IS BEING PILOTED IS SOMETHING THAT
11:38:29AM RESIDENTS ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN THE EXPANSION OF, AND.
11:38:33AM FACT AMONG THE 300 PLUS PEOPLE WHO CONTACTED US TO TALK TO
11:38:38AM US ABOUT TREES, MANY OF THOSE FOLKS WERE INTERESTED IN THAT
11:38:41AM PROGRAM BUT LIVED OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF EAST TAMPA.
11:38:44AM SO THEY WEREN'T ELIGIBLE.
11:38:47AM SO I THINK THERE IS -- GREAT DEMAND FOR THAT, AND I THINK
11:38:52AM THE -- YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE OF CURRENT CANOPY IS SOMETHING
11:38:58AM THAT IS AN ITEM THAT RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR.
11:39:03AM SO HOPEFULLY THAT SHEDS SOME LIGHT ON YOUR QUESTION.
11:39:07AM WIPE LIKE TO SAY, TOO, THAT WE ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THE
11:39:11AM PUBLIC OUTREACH PORTION OF THIS REPORT AND REALLY FINDING
11:39:17AM WAYS TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO SHARE THE INFORMATION THAT IS
11:39:21AM IN IT IN AS MANY WAYS AS POSSIBLE.
11:39:23AM AND ALSO IN WAYS THAT ARE ENGAGING FOR FOLKS.
11:39:28AM SO THE INFORMATION IS ACCESSIBLE AND RELEVANT FOR THEM.
11:39:34AM WE WILL LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.
11:39:37AM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THE STUDY.
11:39:39AM I PRETTY MUCH NOT PROBLEM.
11:39:41AM I JUST NEED SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEM.
11:39:45AM YOU KNOW, THE EAST TAMPA TREE TRIMMING PROGRAM.
11:39:50AM HE ASKED THAT THEY HAVE A PAID ARBORIST ON STAFF TO HELP OUT
11:39:54AM WITH THAT PROBLEM.
11:39:54AM WE HAVE YET TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHY WE
11:39:58AM HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.
11:39:59AM I BELIEVE WE ONLY HAVE ONE OR TWO ARBORIST IN OUR OWN
11:40:03AM DEPARTMENT.
11:40:03AM HOW MANY TREES IN EAST TAMPA AND SLOWING THE PROCESS OF
11:40:08AM GETTING THOSE TREES CUT BECAUSE OF LACK OF A ARBORIST.
11:40:11AM THINGS THAT WE RESOURCES TO DO, WE ARE NOT DOING.
11:40:14AM I TALKED ABOUT MISS JONES.
11:40:17AM TWO OF THE GUYS CUTTING THE TREES I CALLED SHERISHA AND SAID
11:40:25AM A COUNCILMAN HAS NEVER CUT A TREE.
11:40:28AM I SAID THIS LADY HAS BEEN RINGING MY PHONE FOR A MONTH.
11:40:31AM STAFF IN OUR FORESTRY APARTMENT THAT WE CUT DOWN YEARS AGO.
11:40:34AM I THINK THEY ONLY HAVE ONE TRUCK, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN.
11:40:38AM YOU CAN'T DO A JOB -- MY BROTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME, HE SAID IF
11:40:42AM YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TOOLS, YOU CAN'T DO THE JOB.
11:40:45AM I HAD TO LEARN THAT THE HARD WAY.
11:40:48AM IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TOOLS.
11:40:51AM YOU CAN'T DO THE JOB.
11:40:54AM BUT FOR THE LIKE OF ME SAY REPEATEDLY ALL THE TIME, IF WE
11:40:59AM KNOW THERE IS A PROBLEM AND WE KNOW THE ANSWER, THERE IS A
11:41:02AM SOLUTION.
11:41:03AM BE IT REALLOCATE MONEY HERE AND THERE.
11:41:07AM GET MORE EMPLOYEES HERE AND THERE.
11:41:08AM BUT THERE IS A SOLUTION.
11:41:10AM THE SOLUTION IS YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE STAFF AND HOW YOU
11:41:14AM CAN HELP THE CITIZENS OR TAXPAYERS FOR THE MAJOR RESOURCES
11:41:18AM THAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
11:41:20AM NOT THE PROJECT STUFF, BUT THE MAJOR RESOURCES.
11:41:23AM I CAN TELL THAT YOU TREES ARE A BIG ISSUE.
11:41:26AM YOU GO TO SULPHUR SPRINGS, THERE IS A GUY WHERE A HUGE TREE
11:41:30AM FELL OVER TO THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CONSERVATIVE --
11:41:37AM CONSERVANCY MUSEUM.
11:41:38AM HUMONGOUS.
11:41:40AM I GUARANTEE YOU THE TREE IS IN THE BACK YARD BECAUSE HE
11:41:44AM EXPECT AFFORD TO MOVE IT.
11:41:45AM UP WISH WE COULD CUT THAT TREE OUT OF THAT MAN'S BACK YARD.
11:41:49AM YOU MAY KNOW THE GUY I AM TALK BEING.
11:41:52AM IT IS HUGE AND HUMONGOUS.
11:41:54AM TO HAVE SOME HEART AND LOOK AT THE RESOURCES WE DON'T HAVE
11:41:58AM AND LOOK AT FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT HAVE A FEDERAL PROGRAM FOR
11:42:02AM THE WHOLE CITY THAT PEOPLE EXPECT CALL.
11:42:04AM MAY BE A COUPLE OF DOLLARS BUT SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN
11:42:08AM NOTHING TO GET THESE TREES COST.
11:42:11AM IF YOU LOOK AT IT, NOBODY ON CEASE SIDE OF TOWN CARES ABOUT
11:42:14AM THE CANOPY.
11:42:15AM I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
11:42:17AM THIS TREE IS GOING TO FALL ON MY HOUSE.
11:42:20AM THIS TREE IS IN THE POWER LINES.
11:42:21AM MY SIDEWALK IS BREAKING UP BECAUSE THE CITY WON'T COME
11:42:26AM CAUGHT TO CUT THE TREE AND REMOVE THE TREE.
11:42:28AM AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE STAFF.
11:42:30AM WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
11:42:31AM THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE NEED TO HIGHLIGHT OF
11:42:35AM THOSE ISSUE, THE OTHER TREE CANOPY.
11:42:38AM THAT WILL WORK ITSELF OUT.
11:42:41AM HAVE THE MONEY.
11:42:43AM SHE IS WRITE ABOUT THE FUND.
11:42:44AM IT MAY BE LOW.
11:42:45AM YOU NEED TO RAISE THOSE DOLLARS BECAUSE IT IS LOW.
11:42:47AM IT MAKES NO SENSE.
11:42:50AM HOOKING AT REVAMPING THE WHEEL A LITTLE BIT.
11:42:53AM SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE TIRE SOMETIMES BECAUSE THE
11:42:55AM TIRE GETS WORN.
11:42:57AM I HOPE YOU TAKE HEED SOME OF THOSE MR. BENSON, I WON'T BE
11:43:02AM HERE BUT I WILL COME OUT EVERY NOW AND AGAIN AND RAISE
11:43:06AM >> ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE SMART.
11:43:09AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, WE HAVE
11:43:11AM SPEAKERS.
11:43:12AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I WILL LOOK TO MY RIGHT AND LEFT.
11:43:14AM ANY MORE QUESTIONS?
11:43:16AM I HAVE ONE.
11:43:16AM THE TREE GETS CUT DOWN AND GETS MITIGATED.
11:43:20AM SOMEONE PLANTS A TREE AND SAY I PLANTED THAT TREE UNDER THE
11:43:27AM MITIGATION.
11:43:27AM HOW ARE WE SURE THAT TREE WILL GROW TO MATURITY.
11:43:31AM PEOPLE OUT TO CHECK TREES FOR MITIGATION.
11:43:34AM HOW ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT TREE THAT
11:43:38AM THE PERSON IS -- HE PLANT IT IN MITIGATION.
11:43:41AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO IT.
11:43:42AM MAYBE I DIDN'T WATER IT ENOUGH.
11:43:44AM HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENSURE THAT THAT TREE GETS TO MATURITY.
11:43:48AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: RIGHT NOW THAT -- THAT DUTY IS SPONSORED
11:43:52AM WITH DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT AND PART OF THE
11:43:54AM PERMITTING PROCESS.
11:43:55AM THERE IS A PROCESS IN THE, MITT WHERE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO
11:44:01AM FOLLOW UP AND LOOK AT THE TREES ONCE THEY ARE PLANTED TO SEE
11:44:04AM HOW THEY ARE DOING AND SEE IF THEY MEET THE STANDARDS
11:44:10AM BECAUSE.
11:44:10AM STAFFING ISSUES AND VOLUME OF PERMITS WE ARE NOT ABLE TO.
11:44:15AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR NATURAL
11:44:18AM RESOURCES GROUP MEETING AND SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING INTO.
11:44:21AM BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY FOR THE CAPACITY TO
11:44:24AM DO THAT.
11:44:25AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SOME MORE STAFFING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
11:44:29AM TREES GROW UP TO BE HEALTHY.
11:44:31AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:32AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:44:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SOMETHING THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP.
11:44:36AM WHEN WE GET A TREE AND IT IS BROUGHT DOWN AND YOU HAVE THE
11:44:39AM BRANCHES, TRUNK AND SO FORTH THERE, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE TREE
11:44:42AM CUT DOWN, CUT UP IN CHUNKS?
11:44:49AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: DEPEND UPON THE PROPERTY OWNER.
11:44:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE REASON I AM ASKING, IF WE HAVE THE
11:44:54AM ABILITY TO HAVE THE TOOLS THAT MR. GUDES WAS TALKING ABOUT,
11:44:57AM THE SAME TREE ON THE SAME PROPERTY, CUT IT IN SHAVINGS AND
11:45:02AM GET IT BACK FOR MULCH OF SOME SORT.
11:45:06AM MAYBE YOU ARE DOING THAT.
11:45:07AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:45:11AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: WE ACTUALLY DO WITH THE FORESTRY TEAM THAT
11:45:14AM REMOVES TREES AND YOU CAN PICK IT UP ON LOWRY PARK.
11:45:18AM THE NORTH SIDE OF THE NURSERY, SHE SHAVE IT UP TO MULCH.
11:45:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE COMMUNITY CAN PICK IT UP FOR FREE.
11:45:25AM >>SHERISHA HILLS: YES, SIR.
11:45:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T THEY THAT.
11:45:27AM I AM SURE THE OTHER SIX DIDN'T EITHER.
11:45:30AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND APPRECIATE YOU GIVING A LESSON ON IT
11:45:35AM HILLARY CLINTON NO PROBLEM.
11:45:38AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:45:39AM CAN WE HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:45:41AM >> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING, LINDA SAUL-SENA.
11:45:45AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:45:46AM WELCOME.
11:45:46AM THANK YOU FOR BEING CONCERNED WITH TREES.
11:45:48AM I JUST FOUND A RESOLUTION I HAD WRITTEN FOR THE YEAR 2006.
11:45:52AM AND IT LISTED FIVE THINGS I WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH THAT YEAR.
11:45:55AM ONE OF WHICH WAS A TREE ORDINANCE.
11:45:57AM SO IT HAS BEEN ON THE MINDS OF COUNCILMEMBERS FOR A VERY
11:46:02AM LONG TIME.
11:46:03AM IT IS REALLY ABOUT THE RESOURCES.
11:46:05AM WE HEARD A VERY COMPLETE REPORT.
11:46:06AM I APPLAUD THE ADMINISTRATION FOR DOING ITS FIVE-YEAR REPORT,
11:46:11AM BUT ABOUT YOU ALL DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND ABOUT THE
11:46:14AM ADMINISTRATION.
11:46:15AM AND IF THEY DON'T DO IT, COUNCIL NEEDS TO DO IT TO MAKE SURE
11:46:18AM THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE FUNDING FOR THE STAFF TO DO AND THE
11:46:24AM EQUIPMENT TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
11:46:25AM WE ARE ALL PROUD OF OUR TREE CANOPY.
11:46:29AM WE HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION WHAT IT MEANS TO US IN TERMS OF
11:46:32AM CLIMATE CHANGE, IN TERMS OF THE HEALTH AND HAPPINESS OF THE
11:46:35AM PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN TAMPA IT IS SOMETHING THAT SERVES OUR
11:46:38AM EXISTING RESIDENTS WELL.
11:46:40AM WE ALL KNOW THIS STUFF.
11:46:42AM PLEASE WORK HARD TO FIND THE RESOURCES.
11:46:45AM PRIORITIZE OUR TREE CANOPY.
11:46:48AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:46:49AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:46:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:46:56AM LORRAINE PERRINO, THE PRESIDENT OF THE TREE ADVOCACY GROUP.
11:47:02AM I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE OUR MEMBER WHO WILL MAKE A
11:47:06AM THREE-MINUTE COMMENT ABOUT THE TREE CANOPY AND START OFF
11:47:09AM WITH NANCY STEVENS, PAMELA JACKSON HANEY AND ALISON DATE.
11:47:14AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT IS OUT OF THE STATE AND COULDN'T BE
11:47:18AM HERE.
11:47:18AM SO WE MET WITH SOME OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, AND WE HOPE YOU ARE
11:47:22AM INCLINED TO TAKE OUR SUGGESTIONS.
11:47:23AM I WILL SPEAK LAST.
11:47:25AM >> THANK YOU, NANCY STEVENS.
11:47:31AM YES, I AM ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBER OF T-TAG.
11:47:35AM I AM SPEAKING UNDER THAT TODAY.
11:47:36AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THE PRESENTATIONS AND
11:47:39AM THE WORK DONE.
11:47:40AM ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CITY STAFF FOR ALL THE WORK
11:47:43AM THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING TO KEEP THE TREES MAINTAINED, TO
11:47:47AM HELP STOP ILLEGAL TREE REMOVALS, TO PLANT NEW TREES.
11:47:51AM CITY STAFF EVERY DAY HARD TO DO ALL THAT.
11:47:54AM BUT SADLY ALL THAT HARD WORK HAS NOT BEEN ENOUGH AS YOU SAW
11:47:59AM BY THE TREE REPORT.
11:48:00AM OUR TREE CANOPIES CONTINUE TO GET REDUCED.
11:48:03AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THE TOTAL TREE CANOPY IN TAMPA
11:48:09AM -- THE TREE CANOPY HAS DECREASED BY 13% OVER THE LAST TWO
11:48:14AM YEARS.
11:48:14AM THE AMOUNT OF TREE CANOPY IS 13% LOWER IN THE LAST TEN
11:48:18AM YEARS.
11:48:18AM IN SOUTH TAMPA, THAT NUMBER IS EVEN WORSE.
11:48:22AM SOUTH TAMPA TREE CANOPY DOWN 18% IN JUST FIVE YEARS.
11:48:26AM SO THAT IS A WARNING TO US SAYS WHAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT
11:48:30AM ENOUGH.
11:48:31AM WE NEED TO BE DOING MORE.
11:48:33AM I AM GLAD THE MAYOR HAS GONE OUT AND MAKING A STATEMENT AND
11:48:37AM TAKING LEADERSHIP IN THIS AREA.
11:48:38AM SHE MADE A STATEMENT YESTERDAY THAT HAD A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS
11:48:42AM AND I AGREE WITH HER STATEMENT SHE SAID.
11:48:45AM WHAT DID SHE SAY, QUICKLY AND DECISIVELY REPLENISH OUR
11:48:50AM INVALUABLE URBAN FOREST THAT DECREASE THE OVER THE LAST
11:48:55AM DECADE.
11:48:55AM I AGREE WITH HER WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND NOW TIME TO TURN THOSE
11:48:59AM WORDS INTO ACTION.
11:49:00AM A BOLD VISION OF WHAT WE WANT TO LOOK APPLICANT AT AND BOLD
11:49:04AM DETAILED PLANS HOW THIS GET THERE.
11:49:07AM AS MENTIONED SOMEONE IN CHARGE, A TREE CZAR OR WHATEVER IT
11:49:10AM MIGHT BE CALLED TO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND
11:49:13AM ACCOUNTABILITY TO MAKE THOSE PLANS HAPPEN.
11:49:15AM IF THERE IS NO ONE PERSON IN CHARGE AND KIND OF RIGHT NOW A
11:49:20AM LOT OF PEOPLE DOING A LOT OF THINGS AND.
11:49:21AM NO ONE PERSON IS IN CHARGE.
11:49:23AM AND WE NEED A PERSON IN CHARGE AND THE FUNDING TO DO IT.
11:49:28AM THE TREE TRUST FUNDS -- THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THE TREE
11:49:32AM TRUST FUNDS FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
11:49:35AM MORE MONEY NEEDS TO BE BUDGETED TO DO ALL THE THINGS THAT
11:49:38AM NEED TO BE DONE TOP KEEP OUR TREE CANOPY HEALTHY.
11:49:41AM AS MENTIONED MAINTAINING THE TREES.
11:49:44AM TREES SHOULD BE CONSIDERED PART OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE
11:49:47AM THE PIPES, ROADS AND MAINTENANCE SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED TO
11:49:52AM KEEP THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN GOOD SHAPE.
11:49:54AM ALSO PROTECTING THE TREES.
11:49:56AM THAT COSTS MONEY.
11:49:57AM AND UNLIKE A BUILDING, A TREE CAN'T BE TORN DOWN AND BIGGER
11:50:03AM ONES PLANTED.
11:50:05AM A TREE -- OLD TREES HAVE MUCH MORE VALUE THAN THE NEW LITTLE
11:50:09AM TREES THAT HAVE -- THAT GET PLANTED.
11:50:12AM IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THE ONES WE HAVE.
11:50:15AM TREE CUTTERS CONTINUE TO REMOVE TREES.
11:50:19AM FINES ON THE TREE CUTTER IN ADDITION TOLL HOMEOWNER.
11:50:23AM IF YOU FINE THE TREE CUTTER, THEY WON'T DO IT AGAIN.
11:50:26AM DEVELOPERS BUY LAND WITH TREES ON THEM AND REQUEST VARIANCES
11:50:32AM TO REMOVE THAT VALUABLE INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:50:33AM WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE SMART DEVELOPMENT OF BOTH BUILDINGS AND
11:50:37AM THE TREES.
11:50:38AM THEY BUY THE LAND.
11:50:39AM THEY KNOW THOSE TREES ARE ON THERE.
11:50:41AM FINALLY WE NEED TO PLANT MORE LARGE SHADE TREES.
11:50:46AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 30 SECONDS MORE.
11:50:47AM >> OKAY, THANK YOU.
11:50:48AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
11:50:50AM NOW MORE THAN EVER WE NEED OUR TREES TO CLEAN THE AIR,
11:50:53AM ABSORB WATER FROM THE FLOODING AREA AND COOL DOWN OUR CITY.
11:50:57AM THEY NEED TO BE PLANTED IN THE URBAN -- SPECIFIC TARGET OUR
11:51:03AM URBAN HEAT ISLANDS PLANTED IN PUBLIC PROPERTY AND NOT
11:51:09AM BLOCKING THE SOLAR PANELS.
11:51:11AM IF THERE IS NOT A SOLAR PANEL, THERE SHOULD BE A TREE.
11:51:14AM AND I AM OPTIMISTIC THAT WORKING TOGETHER, THE CITY COUNCIL,
11:51:19AM THE CITIZENS, THE MAYOR, THE STAFF, WE CAN DO THIS.
11:51:23AM AND I HOPE THAT -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A STRONG TREE CANOPY
11:51:28AM AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL SUCCESS OF THIS MAYOR AND THE CITY
11:51:32AM COUNCIL.
11:51:32AM THANK YOU.
11:51:32AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:51:36AM >> HI, MY NAME IS PAMELA JACKSON-HANEY.
11:51:39AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US THE TIME TO SPEAK
11:51:43AM TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THE TREES.
11:51:44AM THANK YOU, FIRST OF ALL, FOR FUNDING THIS TREE REPORT.
11:51:48AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS.
11:51:52AM YOU HAVE SUCH A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT NEEDS TO DONE
11:51:56AM GOING FORWARD.
11:51:57AM AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
11:52:01AM YOU KNOW THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO OUR HEARTS FOR YEARS WE
11:52:04AM HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS.
11:52:05AM THE STAFF IS WONDERFUL.
11:52:06AM THEY REALLY PUT UP -- PUT UP WITH A LOT OF OUR QUESTIONS AND
11:52:10AM CONCERNS AND PATIENTLY ANSWER ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS.
11:52:13AM SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF THEM ALSO.
11:52:18AM WITH REGARD TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S COMMENT, I TO SAY OF
11:52:25AM THE $300 THAT GOES FOR THE MITIGATION.
11:52:27AM A FRIEND OF MINE WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING NOT JUST
11:52:30AM PAYING INTO THE TREE FUND FOR TWO TREES WHICH WOULD HAVE
11:52:33AM BEEN $600.
11:52:34AM BUT THEY DECIDED -- SHE AND HER HUSBAND TO PLANT TWO LIVE
11:52:39AM OAKS ON THEIR PROPERTY IN WEST TAMPA AND IT COST THEM $1660
11:52:43AM TO PLANT THOSE TWO LIVE OAKS.
11:52:47AM HUGE DIFFERENCE FROM THE $600 THAT THEY COULD HAVE PAID INTO
11:52:50AM THE TRUST FUND.
11:52:51AM SO I APPLAUD PEOPLE FOR WANTING TO DO THIS, BUT THIS
11:52:55AM SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO BE FIXED.
11:52:58AM I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO ATTEND CHURCH LAST SUNDAY AND MANY
11:53:02AM OF YOU MIGHT HAVE.
11:53:02AM IT WAS EARTH SUNDAY.
11:53:04AM THE ENTIRE TIME, MUSIC, SCRIPTURES AND PRAYERS WERE ALL
11:53:08AM ABOUT BEING GOOD CARETAKERS OF THE EARTH, GOOD STEWARDS OF
11:53:12AM THE EARTH.
11:53:13AM THE PRAYER OF CONFESSION HIT HOME.
11:53:15AM SAY WE PURSUE PROFITS AND PLEASURES THAT HARM THE LAND AND
11:53:21AM POLLUTE THE WATER LEAVING THE.
11:53:26AM AND OF OUR CARE OF CREATION SO THAT WE AND ALL OF YOUR
11:53:29AM CREATURES MAY KNOW THE JOY OF LIFE ABUNDANT.
11:53:32AM AMEN.
11:53:32AM THE LATEST TREE REPORT WAS BLEAK AND DEPRESSING.
11:53:36AM NO WAY AROUND THAT.
11:53:37AM ON SUNDAY WE WERE ENCOURAGED TO BE HOPEFUL DESPITE THINKING
11:53:41AM ALL IS LOST.
11:53:42AM LOOKING AT THIS REPORT AS A TIME TO TURN THINGS AROUND NOW,
11:53:48AM AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE POWER TO DO THAT.
11:53:49AM APPLAUD THE MAYOR AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO FINING THE OWNER
11:53:53AM AND TREE CUTTERS FOR DESTROYING 28 TREES IN GANDY AT THAT
11:53:58AM MOBILE HOME.
11:53:58AM HUGE WIN.
11:53:59AM FINE WAS $244,000 FOR THE TREE CUTTERS ALONE AND UPHELD BY
11:54:05AM THE APPEALS COURT.
11:54:06AM SO BRAVO.
11:54:07AM SHOULD BE AND MUST BE THE BLUEPRINT FOR ILLEGAL TREE
11:54:11AM REMOVALS.
11:54:11AM MANY ILLEGAL TREE REMOVALS ARE HAPPENING IN OUR
11:54:16AM NEIGHBORHOODS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
11:54:18AM WHY?
11:54:19AM WHY CAN'T WE GET IT UNDER CONTROL?
11:54:21AM WE KNOW MANY ARBORISTS AND TREE CUTTING COMPANIES THAT KNOW
11:54:24AM THE RULES AND FOLLOW THEM.
11:54:25AM MANY THAT DON'T.
11:54:26AM WHY ARE THEY STILL DOING BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
11:54:30AM CAN WE TAKE AWAY THEIR LICENSES.
11:54:31AM THE MAYOR HAS TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO DO THIS.
11:54:35AM LET'S EXPLORE IT.
11:54:37AM MAY SEEM LIKE A REACH.
11:54:38AM WHAT CAN WE DO NO YOU?
11:54:40AM INCREASE THE FINES AND FINE THE ARBORISTS AND THE TREE
11:54:43AM CUTTING COMPANIES THAT DO THIS ILLEGAL WORK AND THE DIRTY
11:54:47AM DEEDS.
11:54:47AM THE POW EVERY TO INCREASE THE FINE IS IN YOUR HAND.
11:54:50AM I WAS AT THE MAGISTRATE HEARING NEXT WEEK WHERE A HOMEOWNER
11:54:56AM WAS FINED $4,000 FOR TREE CUTTERS TO TOP AND EFFECTIVELY
11:55:00AM KILL A GRAND TREE ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ANOTHER TREE ON
11:55:02AM HIS PROPERTY.
11:55:03AM SOME MAY THINK THAT IS STEEP.
11:55:05AM MANY DO.
11:55:06AM THE TREE CUTTERS GOT OFF SCOT-FREE.
11:55:09AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 30 SECONDS MORE.
11:55:10AM >> A WEALTHY AND DEVELOPER TOOK OUT A GRAND TREE AND WAS
11:55:17AM CHARGED $8,000, ON A LOT THAT SOLD FOR $1.5 MILLION.
11:55:21AM THAT IS NOT EVEN A DROP IN THE BUCKET FOR THE DEVELOPER.
11:55:25AM NOT EVEN THE COST OF ONE HIGH-END APPLIANCE ON THAT PIECE OF
11:55:30AM LAND.
11:55:30AM A MEASLY FINE.
11:55:32AM SHOULD HAVE BEEN FINED THE $1500.
11:55:37AM TRY TO GET THOSE TREE CUTTERS.
11:55:41AM THEY ALSO NEED TO BE FINED.
11:55:42AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:55:43AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
11:55:45AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:55:48AM STILL MORNING?
11:55:50AM ALMOST.
11:55:50AM I AM ALISON DATE.
11:55:52AM AND I AM SO HAPPY THAT THIS IS HAPPENING, LET ME TELL YOU.
11:55:58AM SO I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS A LOT LATELY, AND I JUST WANT
11:56:03AM TO SAY BRAVO TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE FORESIGHT MORE THAN
11:56:09AM TEN YEARS AGO TO DEVELOP THIS, BECAUSE THEY WERE CONCERNED
11:56:13AM ABOUT LOSING THE CANOPY.
11:56:15AM AND I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT LANGUAGE, YOU GUYS PROBABLY DO.
11:56:22AM I THINK THEY STARTED THE SURVEY BEFORE THEY STARTED THIS.
11:56:25AM SO I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IT A LOT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
11:56:28AM IS GOING ON.
11:56:29AM AND I TALKED TO ONE -- ONE OF THE ORIGINAL AUTHORS.
11:56:32AM AND I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT IT.
11:56:34AM IT IS A -- THE PLAN IS -- WAS DUE TO THEIR CONCERN OF THE
11:56:41AM DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS CAUSING LOSS OF TAMPA'S TREE CANOPY AND
11:56:45AM DATA DRIVEN AS WE SAW, EXECUTED BY EXECUTIVE ORDER TO
11:56:50AM PROVIDE INFORMATION NEEDED TO PROTECT AND EXPAND TAMPA'S
11:56:54AM CANOPY.
11:56:54AM UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THIS PLAN HAS NOT BEEN EFFECTIVELY
11:56:59AM IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE SEVERAL IMPORTANT ITEMS HAVE BEEN
11:57:02AM DISMANTLED OR NEVER COMPLETED.
11:57:04AM THE PROBLEMS SURROUNDING THE USE OF THE TREE TRUST FUND IS
11:57:09AM ONLY ONE EXAMPLE OF NOT COMPLETELY DYSFUNCTION, BUT LIKE --
11:57:14AM LIKE NOW WE ARE FINALLY BEING TOLD WHAT IS INVOLVED WITH IT.
11:57:17AM BUT THAT IS ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE LOSS
11:57:21AM OF TAMPA'S TREE CANOPY.
11:57:23AM THAT IS ONE OF ME -- THAT IS UP WITH OF THE THINGS THAT I AM
11:57:27AM THINKING.
11:57:27AM THE OVERARCHING PROBLEM OF IMPLEMENTING THIS -- TO
11:57:32AM IMPLEMENTING THIS STRATEGIC PLAN HAS BEEN THE LACK OF
11:57:36AM ONGOING MONITORING OF QUANTIFIED ACTION STEPS BASED ON CLEAR
11:57:41AM LINES OF RESPONSIBILITY.
11:57:42AM THAT HAVEN'T BEEN HAPPENING.
11:57:44AM AND THIS PLAN REQUIRES MORE ADEQUATE FUNDING TO BUILD A TREE
11:57:49AM PROGRAM THAT SUSTAINS THE URBAN FOREST.
11:57:51AM IT SHOULD NOT REALIZE SOLELY ON MITIGATION OR GRANT FUNDING
11:57:56AM AS IT DOES NOW FOR, LIKE, ANYTHING EXTRA.
11:57:59AM IT REQUIRES SUFFICIENT PERSONNEL AND INFORMED OVERSIGHT.
11:58:04AM THERE WAS A SEPARATE POSITION TO MONITOR AND COLLECT THE
11:58:09AM TREE INFORMATION ON A MONTHLY REPORT, BUT THAT WAS DISBANDED
11:58:13AM ALONG WITH OTHER PERSONNEL AND NATURAL RESOURCES.
11:58:16AM AND THOSE POSITIONS HAVE NEVER BEEN RETURNED.
11:58:21AM THE NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY COMMITTEE WAS CREATED TO
11:58:24AM ENSURE PROPER IMPLEMENTATION, BUT THEY HAVEN'T MET ENOUGH.
11:58:30AM AND A LOT OF THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS WERE NOT ENACTED.
11:58:33AM SO THEY HAVEN'T BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE.
11:58:35AM THE URBAN FOREST PLAN STATES, FEW ACTIVITIES IN THE PLAN ARE
11:58:40AM AS IMPORTANT AS THE SUCCESS OF THE URBAN FOREST MANAGEMENT
11:58:46AM AS MONITORING, BUT THIS STEP IS OFTEN OVERLOOKED, POORLY
11:58:51AM DESIGNED AND UNDERFUNDED BY MOST CITIES.
11:58:53AM I AM LOOKING FORWARD --
11:58:55AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 30 SECONDS MORE.
11:58:57AM >> -- I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE USE OF CAREFUL
11:59:01AM MONITORING OF BOTH PLANTING AND REMOVAL, AS WELL AS A
11:59:07AM PERMANENT TREE CZAR POSITION THAT WILL BE CREATED TO OVERSEE
11:59:12AM THE COMPLICATED PROCESS OF ESTABLISHING ACCOUNTABILITY.
11:59:15AM AND I AM REALLY HAPPY THAT -- I AM REALLY GLAD THAT WE HAVE
11:59:23AM THIS DATA, BECAUSE IF WE DIDN'T, I DON'T KNOW, WE PROBABLY
11:59:26AM WOULDN'T HAVE ANY CANOPIES.
11:59:28AM SO THANKS TO YOU.
11:59:29AM AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.
11:59:42AM >> SHOW THIS ON THE OVERHEAD?
11:59:45AM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
11:59:46AM PLACE IT THERE AND IT WILL COME UP.
11:59:48AM NO, YOU HAD IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
11:59:50AM YES, MA'AM.
11:59:51AM THANK YOU.
11:59:51AM >> GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
11:59:59AM MY NAME IS LORRAINE PERRINO, PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA TREE
12:00:04PM ADVOCATE GROUP.
12:00:05PM THE GRAND OAK TREES WERE ILLEGALLY REMOVED FROM FORMER
12:00:09PM TRAILER PARK IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:00:10PM IN NOVEMBER 2020, 200 TREES WERE REMOVED FROM THE FORMER
12:00:15PM GEORGETOWN PROPERTY.
12:00:16PM ALSO IN NOVEMBER 2020, REMOVED 30 MATURE TREES TO BUILD
12:00:22PM LUXURY CONDOS.
12:00:24PM IN MARCH 2021 THE CITY ALLOWED TO A R REMOVE WITH A CANOPY
12:00:30PM SPREAD IN SOUTH TAMPA DESPITE THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD
12:00:33PM OPPOSING IT. IN OCTOBER OF 2021, GRAND OAKS WERE REMOVED
12:00:37PM FROM A SINGLE LOT IN BALLAST POINT. IN DECEMBER 2022 CITY
12:00:41PM COUNCIL APPROVED REMOVING 32 PROTECTED TREES FROM THE CIRCLE
12:00:45PM C PROPERTY TO BUILD YET MORE LUXURY CONDOS.
12:00:48PM THESE ARE A FEW EXAMPLES OF THE WHOLESALE DESTRUCTION
12:00:51PM AFFECTING TAMPA'S TREE CANOPY IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
12:00:54PM THIS MAP DETAILS THE DESTRUCTION.
12:00:58PM EACH RED PIN SIGNIFIES A HOUSE IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT HAS BEEN
12:01:02PM RA ASKED IN THE PAST TWO DECADES.
12:01:04PM THE TREES ON THESE PROPERTIES WERE ALSO DESTROYED.
12:01:07PM THE RECENTLY RELEASED 2021 TREE CANOPY AND URBAN FOREST
12:01:11PM ANALYSIS INFORMS US THAT TAMPA'S TREE CANOPY HAS DECLINED BY
12:01:14PM 4% IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS A.CLOSER READING SHOWS THAT TAMPA
12:01:17PM HAS LOST 7% OF ITS TREE CANOPY SINCE 2016 AND 13% OF TREE
12:01:22PM CANOPIES SINCE 1995.
12:01:25PM SOUTH TAMPA HAS LOST 18% OF TREE CANOPY AND FLOOD PRONE
12:01:29PM DAVIS ISLAND LOST 10% WHILE IT'S IMPERVIOUS AREA INCREASED
12:01:33PM BY 5%.
12:01:34PM IF THE CITY-WIDE PUSH FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES
12:01:37PM AT BREAKNECK SPEED, BY 2026, TAMPA WILL LOSE ANOTHER 7% OF
12:01:42PM TREE CANOPY WHICH WILL DECREASE THE 28%.
12:01:45PM FOR A CITY WITH A QUALITY RATING D, THE WORST IN THE ENTIRE
12:01:50PM STATE, AND IN AN AGE OF DRAMATIC CLIMATE OF SEA LEVEL RISE,
12:01:56PM TAMPA IS-A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
12:01:58PM CITY COUNCIL ISN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR DESTROYING ALL OF THE
12:02:01PM TREES CITED ABOVE BUT DID APPROVE REMOVING 122 TREES IN TWO
12:02:05PM YEARS.
12:02:07PM IT TOOK 50 YEARS TO REACH GRAND TREE STATUS.
12:02:11PM A CHILD BORN TODAY WILL BE 50 YEARS OLD BEFORE ALL THE
12:02:14PM BENEFITS OF THAT TREE BECOME AVAILABLE TO HER.
12:02:18PM THESE ARE THE VERY TREES THAT TAMPA IS DESTROYING.
12:02:21PM TAMPA'S TREE ORDINANCE IS 40 YEARS OLD.
12:02:24PM THERE ARE TOOLS TO PREVENT SUCH A DRASTIC LOSS OF TREE
12:02:27PM CANOPY.
12:02:29PM THE TREE TRUST FUND IS FLUSH WITH NEARLY 3 MILLION YET IT IS
12:02:33PM NOT BEING USED TO PLANT MORE TREES.
12:02:40PM YOU STATE THAWED WERE IN FAVOR OF PROTECTING THE TREE
12:02:42PM CANOPY.
12:02:44PM TREE TAG PROTECTS TAMPA'S TREE.
12:02:49PM THEY ONLY NEED TO BE IMPLEMENTED.
12:02:51PM ONE OF THE AUTHORS OF THE 2021 TREE STUDY COMPARED THE
12:02:54PM RECENT FIVE-YEAR LOSS OF TREES IN TAMPA TO THE CLEAR CUTTING
12:02:57PM OF FOUR DAVIS ISLANDS A.CITY TREE CZAR WOULD BE A GOOD
12:03:01PM SOLUTION.
12:03:01PM THE MAYOR SAYS SHE'S IN FAVOR.
12:03:04PM SHE AND CITY COUNCIL MUST WORK TOGETHER TO FUND IT.
12:03:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: 30 SECONDS MORE.
12:03:08PM >> IN TAMPA TREES ALWAYS COME LAST.
12:03:11PM IF THIS DISDAIN BY CITY COUNCIL GOVERNMENT TOLD THE
12:03:14PM HEALTH -- HEALTH OF OUR CANOPY CONTINUES, ALL OF OUR
12:03:20PM RESIDENTS WILL BE THE WORST FOR IT.
12:03:22PM PLEASE ACT NOW.
12:03:23PM THANK YOU.
12:03:23PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:03:24PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR: YOU SEE THE LINE ACROSS THE PICTURE?
12:03:42PM IT'S CALLED THE BFE, THE BASE FLOOR ELEVATION WHICH NOBODY
12:03:47PM MENTIONED TODAY, PARTLY OF SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE
12:03:49PM INTO CONSIDERATION, IN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
12:03:52PM IF YOU NOTICE, THAT'S QUITE HOT.
12:03:55PM PROBABLY ABOUT THIS HIGH, OKAY?
12:03:58PM SO WHEN THESE FOLKS ARE KILLING THE TREES IN SOUTH TAMPA,
12:04:03PM THEY HAVE TO BUILD UP THAT MUCH.
12:04:05PM SO WE HAVE SEEN FOLKS COME IN HERE AND REQUEST -- NOT
12:04:12PM REQUEST TO TAKE OUT TREES.
12:04:14PM WELL, WHEN YOU BUILD UP SOMETHING THIS HIGH ON THE ROOFS OF
12:04:17PM THE -- ROOTS OF THE TREE, IT'S GOING TO KILL IT.
12:04:20PM SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
12:04:24PM AND I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT VERY LITTLE OF RATTLESNAKE
12:04:27PM POINT HAVE ANY TREES.
12:04:30PM VERY LITTLE OF WESTSHORE MARINA DISTRICT HAVE ANY TREES.
12:04:35PM SO THOSE AREAS DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TREES TO START
12:04:38PM WITH AND THAT'S WHERE A BIG CHUNK OF OUR BUILDING HAS BEEN
12:04:41PM DONE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
12:04:42PM SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WHERE ALL THESE TREES, EACH THOUGH WE
12:04:46PM HAVE TAKEN SOME OF THE BIGGEST HITS.
12:04:48PM SO I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
12:04:51PM AND SAID PEOPLE DON'T GO OUT AND CHECK ON THE TREES.
12:04:57PM I HAVE A LOT THREE TIMES THAT IS FULL OF DEAD TREES, DEAD
12:05:01PM BUSHES, BECAUSE THEY PLANT THEM ALL, DIDN'T WATER THEM, AND
12:05:06PM I CAN'T FIND A HUMAN BEING TO ADMIT THAT THEY WILL COME OUT
12:05:10PM AND PULL UP THE DEAD STUFF.
12:05:13PM IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR ABOUT SIX YEARS.
12:05:16PM BUT WHEN WE RAZE HOMES, MANY OF THE PROPERTIES, HOUSES, THEY
12:05:21PM DIDN'T HAVE TREES TO START WITH, BUT THERE WERE VERY FEW,
12:05:26PM AND WE LOST SO MANY BIG LOTS.
12:05:28PM OUR COMMERCIAL LOTS IS WHAT WE LOST DOWN THERE.
12:05:30PM AND SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE TREES THERE.
12:05:32PM THE MITIGATION TREES POORLY PLACED.
12:05:35PM I HAVE SHOWN SOME FOLKS ON COUNCIL THAT POOR PLACEMENT OF
12:05:39PM MITIGATION TREES JUST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ALONE.
12:05:43PM IT SEVERELY DAMAGED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IF THEY WERE PUT IN.
12:05:46PM NOW I WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER WORK.
12:05:50PM I KNOW THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL DRAWING FOR YOU GUYS BUT THIS IS
12:05:53PM THE GANDY CIVIC CENTER.
12:05:55PM MOST OF YOU HAVE BEEN THERE.
12:05:57PM SO HERE IS THE CENTER.
12:05:59PM THERE IS AN EASEMENT THAT BELONGS TO THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
12:06:01PM THE RIGHT.
12:06:02PM IT'S A PAVED ROAD.
12:06:03PM THE CITY OF TAMPA ACTUALLY PAYS THE TAXES ON THAT PAVED
12:06:06PM ROAD, OKAY.
12:06:10PM SO WE JUST PUT IN A COMMUNITY GARDEN.
12:06:12PM I KNOW YOU GUYS JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK AND WE WERE
12:06:16PM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY GARDEN.
12:06:18PM IF YOU GUYS KNEW WHAT KIND OF PAIN IN THE BUTT IT IS TO
12:06:22PM START A COMMUNITY GARDEN, I WANT YOU TO KNOW IT WAS VERY
12:06:24PM DIFFICULT.
12:06:25PM AND I KNOW PEOPLE TO TALK TO.
12:06:27PM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT WE WERE REQUIRED
12:06:30PM TO PUT IN A BUFFER BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA ROAD THAT GOES
12:06:34PM THROUGH A LIFT STATION THAT IS ONLY DRIVEN ON BY PEOPLE WHO
12:06:37PM ARE DRIVING BIG TRUCKS FULL OF POOP.
12:06:41PM OKAY?
12:06:42PM BUT WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUT IN A BUFFER.
12:06:43PM AND WHEN I ASKED THE FOLKS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IF THEY
12:06:47PM COULD DONATE SOME TREES TO US BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
12:06:50PM PLACES TO PLANT ALL THE TREES, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE ARE THE
12:06:54PM DEVELOPER ON THAT, SO WE COULDN'T HAVE ANY TREES FROM THE
12:06:57PM CITY OF TAMPA.
12:06:58PM WHY?
12:06:59PM [BELL SOUNDS]
12:07:00PM NOT ONLY DID I SAY, HEY, WE CAN PUT SOME IN THIS BUFFER.
12:07:03PM BUT WE HAVE A HUGE LOT, AN ACRE AND A HALF.
12:07:07PM YOU GUYS COULD PUT MOST UP HERE, TOO.
12:07:12PM BUT WE DID NOTHING.
12:07:14PM SO JUST TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
12:07:15PM THANK YOU.
12:07:16PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON. KELLA MCCASKILL. TAMPA.
12:07:22PM I SUPPORT MY T-TAG SISTERS, LIKE MENTIONED EARLIER, AND EAST
12:07:29PM TAMPA DOESN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF EDUCATION ON TREES, RIGHT?
12:07:31PM SO RECENTLY I ENTERED AN INITIATIVE WHERE MY ORGANIZATION
12:07:34PM GOES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE TRY AND HELP THEM LIKE TREE
12:07:38PM TRIMMING.
12:07:39PM AND T-TAG, I CHECKED FIRST, WHAT I DID.
12:07:43PM BUT I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY TO PROVIDE EDUCATION
12:07:46PM OUTSIDE OF T-TAG BECAUSE I DID REQUEST TO SEE IF THERE'S A
12:07:52PM WAY TO COME INTO THE COMMUNITY TO EDUCATE THEM AND I WOULD
12:07:55PM ALSO LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY RESOURCES OR OPPORTUNITIES
12:07:57PM FOR YOU ALL TO EDUCATE AS SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
12:07:59PM ASSOCIATIONS AT THE EAST TAMPA CRA, AND AT THE PARTNERSHIP,
12:08:02PM EITHER ONE, PICK ONE, BUT TO DO SOME EDUCATION, BECAUSE I
12:08:06PM LEARNED SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THE TREE.
12:08:08PM FIRST, HE SAID WE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT TREES.
12:08:11PM BUT THERE IS SOME BENEFIT TO THE TREES.
12:08:12PM AND I DON'T THINK WE KNOW THAT.
12:08:15PM IN ADDITION TO T-TAG COMING TO THE CRA OR TO THE MEETINGS IN
12:08:19PM EAST TAMPA, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY RESOURCES
12:08:22PM THAT COULD BE COUPLED WITH THAT SO THAT WE CAN BE VERY AWARE
12:08:25PM OF WHAT WE SHOULD KNOW WITH THE TREES PARTICULARLY SINCE WE
12:08:28PM DO HAVE A TREE TRIMMING GRANT PROGRAM, AND I AM NOT SURE HOW
12:08:31PM MUCH EDUCATING THEY ARE DOING WHILE THEY ARE TRAINING, IF
12:08:34PM THAT MAKES SENSE.
12:08:35PM THANK YOU.
12:08:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:08:36PM ANYONE ELSE IN CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO GIVE P PUBLIC COMMENT?
12:08:40PM MRS. CAROLINE BENNETT, ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
12:08:42PM >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT, ONE OF THE FOUNDING
12:08:52PM MEMBERS OF T-TAG.
12:08:54PM I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AN EXPERIMENT THAT WAS DONE WITH
12:08:56PM IF NATURAL RESOURCES.
12:08:58PM THE THICK WAS, WE HAD A VERY CENTRALIZED NATURAL RESOURCES
12:09:02PM THAT WAS VERY ROBUST AND KATHY BECK WAS THE HEAD OF THAT.
12:09:07PM SHE WAS IN EFFECT THE TREE CZAR.
12:09:09PM AND THE THINKING WAS IF THEY SPREAD THE NATURAL RESOURCES
12:09:14PM PERSONNEL OUT TO THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT IT WOULD BE
12:09:16PM MORE EFFICIENT.
12:09:18PM WELL, I THINK YOU CAN TELL BY THIS TREE STUDY THAT THAT HAS
12:09:21PM NOT PROVEN TO BE THE CASE.
12:09:23PM WE NEED TO GO BACK TO A CENTRALIZED NATURAL RESOURCES.
12:09:27PM WHEN KATHY BECK RETIRED, HER JOB WAS NEVER FILLED.
12:09:30PM THAT JOB NEEDS TO SHALL FILLED.
12:09:33PM YOU CAN CALL IT TREE CZAR, CALL IT WHATEVER HER TITLE WAS.
12:09:36PM BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE FILLED BECAUSE YOU HAVE GOT ALL THESE
12:09:41PM SEPARATE ARMS THAT NONE OF THEM KNOW WHAT EACH OTHER IS
12:09:44PM DIAGNOSE.
12:09:45PM THERE'S NO CENTRALIZATION.
12:09:46PM THERE'S NO CONTROL.
12:09:47PM THERE'S NO OVERSIGHT.
12:09:49PM THERE'S NO BIG PICTURE PLANNING AND ACCOUNTABILITY SO WE
12:09:53PM NEED TO GO BACK TO A ROBUST NATURAL RESOURCES.
12:09:58PM THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS ENFORCEMENT.
12:10:00PM WE CANNOT PLANT OUR WAY OUT OF THIS PROBLEM.
12:10:03PM WE HAVE TO ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT WE HAVE.
12:10:06PM AND THE TRAILER PARK SHOULD BE THE BLUEPRINT FOR THAT.
12:10:10PM THE BIG FINES WERE LEVELED ON THE TREE CUTTER, AND THAT IS
12:10:13PM THE KEY.
12:10:14PM THESE PEOPLE MAKE THEIR LIVING.
12:10:15PM THEY KNOW RECENTLY WHAT PAMELA ALLUDED TO.
12:10:21PM THEY TALKED OF TREES ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:10:22PM THE HOMEOWNER DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:10:25PM THEY KNOW, THOUGH.
12:10:26PM THAT'S HOW THEY MAKE THEIR LIVING.
12:10:27PM YOU FINE THEM AND THAT WILL STOP THE ILLEGAL CUTTING OF
12:10:30PM TREES.
12:10:31PM NOW THAT HOMEOWNER WHO DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER IS GOING TO
12:10:34PM HAVE TO PAY A $4,000 FINE PLUS PAY SOMEONE TO REMOVE THAT
12:10:39PM TREE.
12:10:39PM THE TREE CUTTER SHOULD HAVE BEEN FINED ALSO AND THAT WILL
12:10:42PM PUT AN END TO IT.
12:10:43PM I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT COUNCILMAN GUDES TOUCHED ON.
12:10:50PM HE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
12:10:53PM THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INCOME-BASED PROGRAM TO HELP PEOPLE
12:10:57PM MAINTAIN, TRIM THE TREES AND KEEP THEM HEALTHY.
12:11:01PM THE RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS THAT ARE IN LOWER INCOME
12:11:04PM NEIGHBORHOODS IS WELL, WELL DOCUMENTED.
12:11:06PM AND THE BEST SOLUTION TO THAT, ONE OF THE BEST SOLUTIONS IS
12:11:10PM TREES.
12:11:11PM THEY NEED LOW-INCOME AREAS NEED TREES AS MUCH OR MORE THAN
12:11:16PM HIGH-INCOME AREAS.
12:11:18PM AND SO WE NEED TO HAVE THE INCOME-BASED MAINTENANCE FOR
12:11:21PM PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
12:11:22PM AND WE ALSO AT ONE POINT, THIS LOSS OF TREE CANOPY, IF YOU
12:11:27PM DO THE MATH, THEY SAY THE TREE CANOPY IS $17 MILLION, THAT'S
12:11:33PM $748,000 THAT WE ARE LOSING.
12:11:36PM THAT IS LOST MONEY, EVEN IF YOU HATE TREES, YOU DON'T WANT
12:11:39PM TO LOSE THAT MUCH MONEY.
12:11:41PM AND T-TAG HAS THREE THINGS FOR YOU TO DO, FINE THE TREE
12:11:45PM CUTTERS, REDO THE FORMULA FOR THE FINE, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO
12:11:49PM SEE IT BECOME A MISDEMEANOR IF POSSIBLE.
12:11:51PM [BELL SOUNDS]
12:11:53PM AND T-TAG HAS BEEN BEGGING, ABSOLUTELY BEGGING SINCE 2020 TO
12:11:57PM BE PUT ON THE NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WE
12:12:00PM CANNOT GET ON THAT COMMITTEE.
12:12:02PM THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE CIVILIANS, THERE NEEDS TO BE BETTER
12:12:06PM REPRESENTATION, AND THERE NEEDS THEY NEED TO MEET MORE
12:12:10PM OFTEN.
12:12:11PM THANK YOU.
12:12:11PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
12:12:15PM MR. BENSON, DOES THIS FINISH YOUR REPORT?
12:12:21PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD OR A
12:12:24PM MOTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE?
12:12:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT AT THIS TIME.
12:12:27PM BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS.
12:12:31PM THIS IS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS
12:12:33PM BEING THE BEGINNING OF THE CONVERSATION.
12:12:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:12:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK.
12:12:39PM IN REGARDS TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, CAN
12:12:43PM WE MEET MORE OFTEN?
12:12:46PM AS WAS MENTIONED ONCE A MONTH -- ONCE EVERY TWO MONTHS?
12:12:51PM AND AS THE FINAL SUMMERS MENTIONED, IT'S SO HARD TO GET ON
12:12:54PM THAT COMMITTEE.
12:12:54PM HOW BIG IS THAT BOARD?
12:12:56PM HOW DO THEY APPLY?
12:12:57PM WHAT IS THE DIVERSIFICATION FROM THE COMMUNITY?
12:13:00PM WHAT IS IT LIKE?
12:13:03PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE CAN LOOK AT MODIFICATIONS.
12:13:05PM THE LAST GROUP THAT WAS APPOINTED HAS ONLY MET ONCE AND
12:13:08PM THERE IS A TERM FOR THEM.
12:13:09PM BUT IF THERE'S A NEED TO ADD MORE SEATS OR LOOK TO THE
12:13:14PM FREQUENCY OF MEETINGS, WE CAN DO THAT.
12:13:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RIGHT.
12:13:16PM BECAUSE THERE'S A HUNGER AND DESIRE FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE
12:13:19PM INVOLVED, AND AGAIN TO MEET MORE.
12:13:23PM TWICE A YEAR, I GET IT, IT TAKES FIFTY YEARS FOR AN OAK TO
12:13:28PM BECOME A GRAND OAK.
12:13:29PM HOWEVER, AS WE DISCUSSED OVER THE LAST DECADE AND LESS THAN
12:13:32PM THAT, THE DECLINE IN THE TREE CANOPY.
12:13:35PM WE HAVE SO MUCH NEW CONSTRUCTION, SO MANY NEW HOMES.
12:13:38PM WE HAVE TO BE STAY ON TOP OF THIS.
12:13:41PM I MEAN, IT'S MANAGEABLE.
12:13:45PM WE HAVE TO STOP, AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T SEE A
12:13:48PM FURTHER DECLINE.
12:13:49PM DO YOU NEED AN OFFICIAL MOTION FOR YOU TO LOOK AT THIS
12:13:53PM ADVISORY BOARD, OR COULD YOU COME BACK WITH A REPORT, OR
12:13:57PM JUST A MEMO TO MAKE UP HOW WE CAN FURTHER EXPAND IT?
12:14:02PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE CAN COME BACK WITH A REPORT ON THE
12:14:04PM HISTORY OF THE COMMITTEE AND THE MAKEUP AND PARAMETERS THAT
12:14:08PM NEED TO BE MODIFIED TO CHANGE IT BASED ON YOUR
12:14:11PM RECOMMENDATIONS.
12:14:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
12:14:12PM WOULD YOU LIKE AN OFFICIAL MOTION, PERHAPS IN JULY, JUST
12:14:16PM ISSUE A MEMO AND GIVE US AN UPDATE?
12:14:19PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT JULY 13th UNDER STAFF
12:14:21PM REPORTS THAT YOU, MR. BENSON AND YOUR TEAM, COME BACK WITH
12:14:26PM AN UPDATE REGARDING THE NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY
12:14:30PM COMMITTEE, AND HOW WE CAN FURTHER INCREASE THE MEETING
12:14:35PM AMOUNTS, YOU KNOW, AND THE MAKEUP OF THE BOARD AND HOW WE
12:14:38PM CAN EXPAND THAT AND HOW WE CAN TWEAK IT AND MODIFY IT.
12:14:46PM LET'S DO A WRITTEN REPORT.
12:14:47PM IF WE NEED YOU HERE, WE WILL REQUEST IT.
12:14:51PM JULY 13th UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
12:14:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN GUDES.
12:14:55PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
12:14:57PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:14:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I SAID THIS BEFORE, MY PHILOSOPHY
12:15:01PM GOING FORWARD WOULD BE THAT BOARDS IDEALLY THESE ADVISORY
12:15:07PM BOARDS WOULD HAVE ONE REPRESENTATIVE FOR EACH CITY COUNCIL
12:15:09PM MEMBER SO WE GET GEOGRAPHIC DIVERSITY ON IT. IF THAT MEANS
12:15:13PM THE MAYOR NEEDS TO HAVE MORE APPOINTEES, I DON'T CARE, BUT I
12:15:18PM THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMUNITY,
12:15:21PM ALL ADVISORY COMMITTEES HAVE AT LEAST ONE REPRESENTATIVE
12:15:25PM FROM EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER.
12:15:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION RIGHT NOW.
12:15:30PM I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
12:15:33PM BUT I DEFINITELY WANT TO EXPAND ON THE IDEA OF THE MAP OF
12:15:37PM WHERE WE ARE PLANTING THESE, AND THE TYPES OF TREES WE ARE
12:15:40PM PLANTING, MAYBE EVEN ADDING IT TO THE GIS SO PEOPLE KNOW
12:15:44PM WHERE IT IS.
12:15:45PM I'M SURE THAT DATA IS SORT OF AVAILABLE SO IT GETS OUT.
12:15:48PM I'LL TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT THAT.
12:15:50PM WE CAN IF I CAN OUT THE RIGHT MOTION IS THERE, AND THE
12:15:53PM TIMING.
12:15:55PM AND THEN I WILL ALSO MAKE A MOTION ABOUT COMING BACK TO TALK
12:16:00PM ABOUT THAT TREE CZAR, AND WHERE WE ARE ON THAT.
12:16:06PM SO, AGAIN, I CAN MAKE THAT NOW BUT I WILL PROBABLY MAKE IT
12:16:10PM LATER.
12:16:10PM SO AGAIN I WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
12:16:13PM THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH FOR THIS.
12:16:15PM I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
12:16:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU MADE A MOTION.
12:16:25PM GUDES SECONDED.
12:16:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:16:26PM ANY OBJECTIONS? MOTION PASSES.
12:16:28PM WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
12:16:32PM (RECESS)
1:37:59PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.
1:38:07PM ROLL CALL.
1:38:10PM >> CARLSON?
1:38:11PM VIERA?
1:38:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
1:38:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
1:38:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
1:38:16PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HERE.
1:38:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
1:38:17PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: HERE.
1:38:19PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:38:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
1:38:21PM WE'LL GO TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2, FILE CM23-80250.
1:38:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DO HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT,
1:38:42PM MR. MASSEY, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK FIRST?
1:38:46PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK WE HAD A PRETTY ROBUST DISCUSSION
1:38:48PM THIS MORNING DURING PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THE ISSUE.
1:38:51PM UNLESS -- THERE'S ONE CLARIFICATION I THINK MR. SHELBY WOULD
1:38:55PM LIKE TO MAKE THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF.
1:38:57PM OTHER THAN THAT, REALLY HAVE NO PRESENTATION.
1:39:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, HI.
1:39:02PM GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:39:03PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
1:39:04PM WE TALKED THIS MORNING, AND I HAD READ YOU SECTION 2-282
1:39:09PM SUB-I FROM THE TAMPA CITY CODE REGARDING WHAT WE CALL
1:39:14PM COLLOQUIALLY AS THE CONE OF SILENCE.
1:39:16PM ONCE AN RFP OR RFQ IS BROADCAST AND IT'S SENT OUT AND
1:39:22PM RELEASED, THEN THAT PROVISION APPLIES.
1:39:25PM AND BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT CONTINUES, AND THERE WERE
1:39:30PM REPRESENTATIONS MADE IF A CLARIFICATION, THAT CONE OF
1:39:34PM SILENCE IN THIS INSTANCE HERE DOES NOT END ON MAY 1st.
1:39:38PM IT IS DUE BACK ON MAY 1st.
1:39:41PM ALL THE PEOPLE WHO -- ALL THE COMPANIES WHO WISH TO SUBMIT
1:39:44PM SOMETHING, THE DUE DATE FOR THAT IS MAY 1st.
1:39:47PM BUT THE CONE OF SILENCE CONTINUES THROUGH THE PROCESS OF
1:39:51PM SEEING WHAT CAME IN, EVALUATING IT, RANKING IT, AND
1:39:54PM ULTIMATELY WHAT HAPPENS IS THE DEPARTMENT MAKES A
1:39:57PM RECOMMENDATION TO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND WHEN THAT
1:40:02PM RECOMMENDATION IS THEN PUBLISHED ON THE WEBSITE, WHATEVER
1:40:05PM DATE AND HOWEVER LONG THAT TAKES, THAT'S WHEN THE CONE OF
1:40:08PM SILENCE GOES AWAY.
1:40:10PM SO IT DOES NOT END ON MAY 1st.
1:40:13PM IT'S STILL IN EFFECT AND IT CONTINUES UNTIL SUCH TIME AS A
1:40:16PM RECOMMENDATION FROM THE DEPARTMENT GOES TO THE PURCHASING
1:40:18PM DEPARTMENT.
1:40:19PM I JUST LEARNED THAT THIS MORNING CLEARLY FROM THE PURCHASING
1:40:24PM DEPARTMENT, I SPOKE WITH GREG SPEARMAN.
1:40:26PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU CLARIFIED -- WE CLARIFY THAT
1:40:29PM PROCESS.
1:40:30PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:40:31PM OKAY.
1:40:33PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:40:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO REAPPLY
1:40:37PM NOW AGAIN?
1:40:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S A NEW RFP.
1:40:40PM THE OTHER RFP FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND BY WAY OF BACKGROUND IS
1:40:44PM THAT THAT WAS RECALLED.
1:40:46PM I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE CORRECT TERM, MR. MASSEY.
1:40:48PM IT WAS RESCINDED OR CANCELED?
1:40:50PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: CORRECT.
1:40:51PM THE RFP THAT THE NEW -- ORIGINALLY MADE THE MOTION ABOUT THE
1:40:57PM RFP SCOPE, THE ORIGINAL RFP THAT WAS ISSUED WAS REVOKED OR
1:41:01PM RESCINDED BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
1:41:03PM AND THERE WAS A MEETING WITH THE TOW TRUCK PROVIDERS AND A
1:41:08PM NEW RFP WAS THEN ISSUED.
1:41:10PM IT'S MUCH MORE NARROW IN SCOPE BUT IT APPLIES ONLY TO POLICE
1:41:14PM VEHICLES THAT HAVE TO BE IMPOUNDED FOR POLICE CRIME TYPE OF
1:41:17PM THINGS.
1:41:17PM THE REST OF IT ROTATION REMAINS, WHICH IS LIKE 95%.
1:41:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY DON'T HAVE TO REAPPLY FOR THE
1:41:23PM ROTATION?
1:41:24PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NO, THEY DO NOT.
1:41:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.
1:41:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR DO YOU
1:41:33PM WISH TO HAVE THIS RECEIVED AND FILED?
1:41:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES, THIS IS YOUR MOTION.
1:41:38PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:41:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR COUNCIL TO
1:41:46PM BE NOTIFIED WITHIN 48 HOURS OF THAT DECISION BEING MADE SO
1:41:53PM THAT WE CAN THEN SET THIS MEETING FOR THAT TIME WHEN WE CAN
1:42:00PM START TALKING ABOUT THIS AGAIN.
1:42:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
1:42:04PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
1:42:06PM HURTAK.
1:42:06PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:42:08PM ANY FINAL DISCUSSIONS?
1:42:09PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
1:42:12PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
1:42:14PM MOTION CARRIES.
1:42:15PM COUNCILMAN GUDES, DOES THIS SATISFY YOUR REQUEST?
1:42:20PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: [INAUDIBLE]
1:42:22PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:42:23PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:42:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: I KIND OF SAID THIS THIS MORNING, BUT WITH
1:42:32PM THE WAY, IF YOU -- IF WE LOOK BACK AT THE RELATIONSHIP
1:42:36PM BETWEEN COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE A COUPLE OF YEARS
1:42:40PM AGO, IT'S EASY TO THINK ABOUT THIS AS TRYING TO PREEMPT OR
1:42:46PM USURP CITY COUNCIL'S AUTHORITY ON THIS.
1:42:50PM AND YOU COULD SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT THE TREE ANNOUNCEMENT
1:42:53PM YESTERDAY IN ADVANCE OF OUR MEETING TODAY AND A LOT OF OTHER
1:42:57PM THINGS.
1:42:57PM BUT I HOPE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL WORK WITH US GOING
1:43:02PM FORWARD AND INVITE COUNCIL TO PRESS CONFERENCES AND INCLUDE
1:43:12PM -- MAKE IT MORE PARTICIPATORY GOING FORWARD.
1:43:14PM AND SOMETHING LIKE THIS SUPPOSEDLY WE GOT CALLS, I DON'T
1:43:17PM KNOW THAT I GOT A CALL, BUT A CALL OR A QUICK E-MAIL USUALLY
1:43:22PM WE'RE PRETTY EASY TO GET AHOLD OF, A DISCUSSION IN ADVANCE
1:43:26PM WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THE LONG DISCUSSIONS WE HAD THIS
1:43:29PM MORNING.
1:43:29PM I HOPE WE CAN ALL FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK BETTER GOING
1:43:32PM FORWARD.
1:43:32PM THANK YOU.
1:43:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE CM22-77485.
1:43:46PM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:43:48PM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT HERE TO ADDRESS
1:43:51PM ITEM NUMBER 3.
1:43:51PM A MOTION MADE BY CHAIR CITRO, SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN
1:43:56PM HURTAK, RELATIVE TO DRAINAGE DITCHES ACROSS THE CITY THAT
1:44:02PM HAVE BEEN FILLED IN ILLEGALLY AND WITHOUT PERMITS AND WHAT
1:44:07PM CAN BE DONE TO CORRECT THIS ISSUE.
1:44:10PM SO A QUICK BACKGROUND, A MEMO WAS NOT ISSUED BECAUSE I
1:44:16PM WANTED TO ADDRESS THIS TO COUNCIL DIRECTLY BECAUSE IT IS A
1:44:20PM TRICKY SITUATION, AS I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR.
1:44:24PM THIS IS A DECADES-OLD CHALLENGE, SPECIFICALLY OR PRIMARILY
1:44:31PM IN OLDER PLATTED NEIGHBORHOODS AND A BIG PART OF THIS ISSUE
1:44:41PM IS OVER TIME, AND IT'S TWOFOLD.
1:44:44PM OVER TIME WHEN NEIGHBORHOODS WERE PLATTED IN SOUTH TAMPA OR
1:44:49PM WEST TAMPA, TYPICALLY IN THE '60s OR BEFORE, THEY DID HAVE
1:44:56PM SOME DRAINAGE SYSTEMS, TYPICALLY SWALES, DITCHES, THINGS
1:45:00PM LIKE THAT.
1:45:01PM OVER THE DECADES AS PEOPLE CHANGE HANDS AND PROPERTIES
1:45:06PM CHANGE HANDS FROM ONE PROPERTY OWNER TO ANOTHER, SOME OF
1:45:11PM THESE DITCHES OR SWALES WERE FILLED IN ILLEGALLY AS ALLUDED
1:45:17PM IN THE MOTION ITSELF.
1:45:19PM THIS WAS PARTLY DUE TO ENCROACHMENT.
1:45:23PM THE BEST THAT I COULD SURMISE BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE
1:45:27PM HAVE, THIS IS ALSO PARTLY DUE TO LESS REGULAR MAINTENANCE IN
1:45:33PM TERMS OF RESOURCES THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO
1:45:38PM STORMWATER MAINTENANCE IN THE PAST.
1:45:41PM AND BECAUSE OF THESE TWO CHALLENGES, LINES BECAME BLURRED.
1:45:46PM NEW PROPERTY OWNERS ENCROACHED ON DITCHES, AND THE ONLY WAY
1:45:53PM FOR US TO TELL AT THIS TIME IS AGAIN TWOFOLD.
1:45:57PM ONE IS WHEN OUR TEAMS GO OUT INTO THE FIELD TO RESPOND TO
1:46:02PM CONCERNS OR DO MAINTENANCE OR WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER,
1:46:06PM TYPICALLY A NEW PROPERTY OWNER CALLS WITH A CHALLENGE ON A
1:46:10PM CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
1:46:12PM WE GO OUT THERE AND WE FIND OUT WHAT THE ISSUE IS.
1:46:15PM NOW, I HAVE TO MENTION THAT SINCE 2016, WHEN THE SERVICE
1:46:22PM ASSESSMENT, THE STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT WAS PASSED,
1:46:26PM SINCE THEN WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DEDICATE ADEQUATE RESOURCES
1:46:31PM TO MAINTENANCE OF THE EXISTING STORMWATER SYSTEM.
1:46:34PM AND WHAT THIS MEANS IS ON A REGULAR BASIS WE HAVE
1:46:37PM CONTRACTORS AND OUR TECHNICIANS GO OUT TO OUR FACILITIES,
1:46:41PM MONITOR THESE FACILITIES, KNOW WHERE THEY ARE.
1:46:44PM SO THIS IS MORE OF AN HISTORICAL CHALLENGE BUT IT HAS
1:46:51PM ACCUMULATED OVER DECADES AND THERE ARE TWO WAYS WE FIND OUT
1:46:54PM ABOUT IT, WHEN A CUSTOMER COMPLAINS OR WHEN A COMMUNITY
1:46:59PM MEMBER COMPLAINS, TYPICALLY A NEW HOMEOWNER AS HAS WATER
1:47:03PM COLLECTING IN AREAS WHERE THEY FEEL LIKE IT SHOULDN'T OR IF
1:47:09PM WE HAVE A PROJECT, A CAPITAL PROJECT OR MAINTENANCE AND
1:47:12PM SOMEONE FINDS A HEAD WALL OR THE REMNANTS OF A DITCH OR
1:47:17PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IN WHICH CASE STORMWATER ENGINEERING IS
1:47:21PM INFORMED.
1:47:23PM THEY ADD THAT INFORMATION TO OUR GIS LAYER AND THEY EITHER
1:47:28PM WORK IF IT IS A COMPLAINT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER ON SMALL
1:47:32PM PROJECTS.
1:47:32PM WE CALL THEM A LIST OF HUNDRED PROJECTS, AND IT'S A ROLLING
1:47:36PM LIST, AND THESE ARE THE TYPE OF PROJECTS THAT WE ADDRESS AS
1:47:39PM PART OF IT OR OUR OPERATIONS FOLKS GO OUT THERE AND DO WHAT
1:47:44PM THEY CAN WITH THE SITUATION.
1:47:48PM GOING FORWARD AND WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT THIS, THERE ARE
1:47:52PM REALLY TWO THINGS.
1:47:55PM AT A BROADER LEVEL, COUNCIL APPROVED LATE LAST YEAR TO
1:48:01PM CONDUCT A GAP ANALYSIS FOR THE OVERALL WATERSHED MANAGEMENT
1:48:04PM PLAN EFFORTS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
1:48:08PM AS PART OF THAT, WE WILL IDENTIFY GAPS WHERE MAJOR PROJECTS
1:48:14PM ARE NEEDED, WHICH WILL MITIGATE MAJOR ISSUES RELATIVE TO
1:48:18PM STORMWATER AND DRAINAGE, AND THAT WILL, OF COURSE, TRANSLATE
1:48:24PM INTO CIPs FROM THERE ON.
1:48:27PM BUT THE OTHER ALSO IS CONTINUING TO WORK ON A CASE-BY-CASE
1:48:30PM BASIS AS CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY COME UP.
1:48:35PM BUT BEYOND MAINTAINING THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE AND
1:48:38PM ADEQUATELY RESOURCING THAT AND CONTINUING TO WORK WITH
1:48:42PM COMMUNITY MEMBERS, ANYTIME WE FIND THIS INFORMATION, WE LOG
1:48:46PM IT AND WE CREATE A DATA POINT FOR ANOTHER SMALL PROJECT
1:48:52PM GOING FORWARD.
1:48:54PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK MENTIONED EDUCATION FOR PROPERTY OWNERS.
1:48:59PM SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL LOOK AT AS WELL.
1:49:03PM WE DO STORMWATER ENGINEERING AND OPERATIONS DIVISION DO
1:49:06PM EDUCATION ABOUT YARD WASTE, CLIPPINGS BEFORE STORMS AND SO
1:49:11PM ON.
1:49:12PM WE WILL ADD THIS TO OUR LIST AS WELL.
1:49:14PM AND WE'RE OPEN TO CREATIVE IDEAS.
1:49:17PM ONE OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS MENTIONED MAYBE WE SHOULD REACH OUT
1:49:20PM TO REAL ESTATE AGENTS SO THEY KNOW WHEN PROPERTIES CHANGE
1:49:23PM HANDS AND ALL.
1:49:24PM SO WE'RE OPEN TO IDEAS.
1:49:27PM WE'LL TRY DIFFERENT THINGS AND WE WILL COMMIT TO DOING MORE
1:49:31PM EDUCATION ON THIS.
1:49:32PM AND THEN FINALLY, I WILL CLOSE BY KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING THE
1:49:38PM NEED TO RESOURCE THESE THINGS.
1:49:41PM SO WE HAVE A SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
1:49:44PM I HOPE COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS.
1:49:49PM WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE NEEDS FOR ADDITIONAL STORMWATER
1:49:52PM INFRASTRUCTURE, HARD INFRASTRUCTURE, AS WELL AS
1:49:56PM ENVIRONMENTAL PROJECTS IN OUR RIVER -- JUST LIKE THE TREE
1:50:04PM ISSUE REQUIRE RESOURCES AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
1:50:07PM COUNCIL ON THE SAME.
1:50:09PM I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
1:50:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
1:50:11PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
1:50:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT AND FOR
1:50:16PM MENTIONING THE 2016 STORMWATER, THE SERVICE ASSESSMENT THAT
1:50:20PM WAS PUT IN PLACE TO COMBAT THE DRAINAGE DITCHES COME BACK,
1:50:26PM TO HELP MAINTAIN AND CLEAR OUT THOSE DRAINAGE DITCHES AND
1:50:28PM OTHER AVENUES ON A HIGHER FREQUENCY BECAUSE THEY WERE
1:50:33PM NEGLECTED FOR YEARS, AND BECAUSE OF THAT SERVICE ASSESSMENT,
1:50:37PM WE'VE SEEN MANY PARTS OF THE CITY THAT ARE NOT SO PRONE TO
1:50:40PM FLOODING BECAUSE, AGAIN, THESE DITCHES AREN'T BEING
1:50:44PM NEGLECTED.
1:50:45PM HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, ABOUT PEOPLE ILLEGALLY FILLING THEM
1:50:48PM IN WITHOUT PERMITS, HERE WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING
1:50:52PM AND WE HAVE TO FIGHT THIS OTHER BATTLE WITH FOLKS CLOSING
1:50:57PM THEM UP.
1:50:57PM REALLY NO QUESTIONS.
1:51:00PM JUST A FEW COMMENTS, BUT YOU'VE ANSWERED EVERYTHING.
1:51:02PM I APPRECIATE IT.
1:51:03PM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER AND MOVING FORWARD.
1:51:08PM SO THANK YOU.
1:51:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:51:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
1:51:13PM I ECHO THAT THANKS.
1:51:16PM THIS WAS A GREAT -- ACTUALLY, THE PERFECT DAY TO GO ALONG
1:51:20PM WITH THE TREES TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE WAYS WE'RE TRYING TO
1:51:22PM HELP MITIGATE THE WATER SITUATION IN THE CITY.
1:51:25PM FOR MY UNDERSTANDING, YOU ALL DO NOT HAVE LIKE A MASTER LIST
1:51:32PM OF WHERE THESE SWALES ARE ALREADY OR YOU DO?
1:51:37PM >>VIK BHIDE: WE DON'T HAVE A MASTER LIST.
1:51:39PM WHAT WE KNOW IS ALL DOCUMENTED IN OUR GIS AND UMAC.
1:51:46PM BOTH INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS SWALES.
1:51:48PM NOW, IF WE LOOK AT ALL THE PLATS AND HISTORICAL PLATS ON A
1:51:52PM CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, SOMETIMES THEY DO SHOW THAT THERE WERE
1:51:57PM SWALES OR DITCHES.
1:51:58PM AND IF YOU GO OUT THERE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, SOUTH OF GANDY,
1:52:02PM AROUND THE OKLAHOMA AREA, THOSE WERE TWO PLATS AND THERE ARE
1:52:05PM ONLY TWO STREETS THAT EVEN RESEMBLE THE ORIGINAL INTENT FOR
1:52:11PM THE STORMWATER SYSTEM IN THE AREA.
1:52:13PM SO WE'VE LOST IT OVER DECADES SINCE THE '50s AND LACK OF
1:52:18PM MAINTENANCE REALLY ADDED TO THAT CHALLENGE.
1:52:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I UNDERSTAND.
1:52:21PM SO GOING FORWARD, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO IS WHEN
1:52:28PM FOLKS ARE OUT IN THE FIELD JUST FINDING THOSE, EDUCATING
1:52:33PM HOMEOWNERS, CORRECT?
1:52:37PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
1:52:38PM YES, MA'AM.
1:52:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL.
1:52:42PM I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW WE CONTINUE TO KEEP THIS ON THE
1:52:53PM AGENDA AND KEEP US TALKING ABOUT IT, IF YOU HAVE ANY
1:52:57PM SUGGESTIONS, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS A REGULAR
1:52:57PM MAINTENANCE THING.
1:52:57PM IT SEEMS LIKE YOU COULD ALSO WORK WITH THE NATURAL RESOURCES
1:53:05PM DEPARTMENT TO DISCUSS BOTH TREES AND SWALES WHEN WE'RE
1:53:10PM TALKING ABOUT MITIGATING WATER.
1:53:12PM SO MAYBE A COMBINATION.
1:53:16PM I'M BRINGING BACK A MOTION ABOUT THE TREE MAP SO MAYBE
1:53:28PM DURING THAT I'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING WITH A MOTION TO
1:53:31PM MAYBE BRING THIS BACK AND DISCUSS IT A BIT MORE LATER ON.
1:53:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:53:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
1:53:40PM THIS SOUNDS EASY, BUT IT'S NOT.
1:53:42PM TAKE AN AVERAGE OF 12 MONTHS.
1:53:44PM THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN A YEAR.
1:53:45PM LET'S SAY WE DO 12 HEARINGS A NIGHT ON THE AVERAGE TIMES --
1:53:51PM 12 TIMES 12 IS 144.
1:53:53PM WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT MANY BECAUSE ONE OR TWO THAT WE
1:53:57PM MISSED SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE.
1:53:58PM SAY 144.
1:53:59PM THAT'S A LOT.
1:54:00PM YOU MULTIPLY THAT BY TEN YEARS, NOW YOU'RE UP TO WHAT?
1:54:03PM 14,000.
1:54:05PM SO THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED IN
1:54:09PM ONE WAY IS TO HAVE SOMEBODY LOOK SOMEHOW, I DON'T KNOW IF
1:54:13PM THEY ARE ALL ON COMPUTERS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY ARE.
1:54:15PM AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GO CASE BY CASE AND LOOK AT
1:54:20PM THE THINGS THIS COUNCIL AND OTHER COUNCILS DID IN THE PAST
1:54:23PM TO FIND OUT WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
1:54:25PM AND THAT WAY WHEN YOU IDENTIFY THEM, YOU CAN CLICK THEM ON.
1:54:29PM ANYTIME YOU PUT THAT TYPE OF ZONING IN, IT SEPARATES THEM
1:54:32PM FROM THE REST AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY FIND THAT GOING FORWARD.
1:54:36PM TO DO IT, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.
1:54:39PM YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT OVERNIGHT.
1:54:43PM IT WILL TAKE MONTHS.
1:54:45PM SOMEBODY AN HOUR, TWO HOURS A DAY TO FIND OUT WHERE WE ARE
1:54:48PM AT.
1:54:48PM AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THESE SPECIAL ONES, AT THE NIGHT OF
1:54:51PM THE HEARING, HAVE TO BE IN A DIFFERENT CATEGORY SO YOU CAN
1:54:53PM PUT THEM IN, SO YOU CAN FIND THEM LATER ON.
1:54:56PM YOU JUST CAN'T SAY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND NOT RED TAG
1:54:59PM THEM IN ONE FASHION OR ANOTHER.
1:55:01PM COMPUTERS ARE GREAT, BUT NOTHING IF THEM YOU CAN'T FIND
1:55:04PM ANYTHING.
1:55:05PM SO YOU HAVE TO DO IT MANUALLY.
1:55:08PM HATE TO TELL YOU THAT.
1:55:09PM I'M NOT A COMPUTER GENIUS, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'LL
1:55:13PM FIND THEM, SIR.
1:55:14PM >>VIK BHIDE: YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
1:55:17PM IF I COULD RESPOND TO THAT.
1:55:20PM THE MANUAL INVENTORY MAY NOT YIELD AS MUCH BENEFIT AS WE MAY
1:55:26PM WANT.
1:55:28PM OUR BEST EFFORTS ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING FORWARD, PLANNING
1:55:33PM FOR THE NEXT STORMWATER SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE
1:55:37PM DEVELOPING THE WATERSHED MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH USUALLY
1:55:41PM TAKES CARE OF A MAJORITY OF THE CONCERNS FROM THIS SORT OF
1:55:46PM ACCUMULATION.
1:55:47PM AND THEN CONTINUING TO WORK ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS, AS I
1:55:51PM MENTIONED, AS THESE CONCERNS COME UP.
1:55:55PM BUT THAT'S OUR BEST MOST EFFICIENT COURSE GOING FORWARD.
1:55:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M ALSO SAYING THAT EVEN NOW PEOPLE THAT
1:56:01PM WANT TO PUT PAVERS DOWN TO GET A PERMIT, I DON'T THINK THEY
1:56:08PM ARE TOLD YOU CAN ONLY GO SO FAR WITH THAT.
1:56:11PM IT'S GOT TO BE EXPLAINED TO THEM.
1:56:14PM SOME I SEE RUNNING ALL OVER THE STREET, SO NO SIDEWALK, JUST
1:56:17PM PAVERS.
1:56:17PM AND THEN YOU GOT TO CUT IT.
1:56:19PM SO I THINK A TIME OF THE PERSON COMING IN, GETTING, APPLYING
1:56:23PM FOR A PERMIT IS THE TIME SOMEBODY HAS TO TELL THEM WHAT THEY
1:56:27PM CAN AND CANNOT DO AND LET THEM SIGN OFF THAT THEY READ AND
1:56:31PM OKAY WITH IT.
1:56:31PM THAT IS MY SUGGESTION.
1:56:33PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
1:56:35PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, VIK, THANKS FOR BEING THOROUGH AGAIN.
1:56:39PM YOU ALWAYS ARE HELPFUL.
1:56:42PM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ON THE WAY OUT THE DOOR.
1:56:45PM EVERY TIME I NEEDED YOU, YOU WERE THERE.
1:56:48PM YOU DIDN'T BS ME.
1:56:49PM YOU TOLD ME WHAT IT WAS.
1:56:50PM I REMEMBER A LADY ON COLUMBUS HOW WE WENT TO HER HOUSE
1:56:54PM TOGETHER.
1:56:55PM SHE WAS IMPRESSED.
1:56:55PM THOUGHT SOMEBODY CARED AND HELPED ON THAT PROJECT A LITTLE
1:56:58PM BIT.
1:56:58PM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING UP FRONT AND HONEST.
1:57:01PM YOU HAVE A JOB TO DO BUT YOU WERE ALWAYS A STRAIGHT SHOOTER
1:57:04PM FOR ME, SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
1:57:06PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
1:57:07PM THANK YOU.
1:57:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
1:57:09PM MR. BHIDE, THE REASON WHY I ASKED THIS, THERE WAS A WOMAN IN
1:57:13PM WEST TAMPA WHO BACK WHEN WE HAD THE HEAVY RAINS A YEAR AGO,
1:57:17PM HER PROPERTY WAS GETTING FLOODED BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ALONG
1:57:22PM HER STREET FILLED IN THE DRAINAGE DITCH, WHETHER IT HAD BEEN
1:57:27PM TWO OR THREE PRIOR OWNERS.
1:57:29PM I WAS JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, THERE'S CAUSE AND EFFECT BY
1:57:33PM EVERYTHING THAT GETS DONE.
1:57:35PM SOMEONE FILLS IN A DITCH WITHOUT THE PERMITS, THEIR NEIGHBOR
1:57:39PM GETS FLOODED.
1:57:40PM THE LIABILITY IS GOING TO FALL SOMEWHERE.
1:57:42PM I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN BE DONE BY THE CITY.
1:57:47PM WE CAN'T JUST GO IN WITH A BACKHOE AND DIG UP THE DITCHES
1:57:50PM AGAIN.
1:57:51PM BUT THERE'S STILL FLOODING THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE
1:57:54PM THOSE DITCHES ARE FILLED IN.
1:57:56PM I'M HOPING THAT CITIZENS THAT ARE GETTING FLOODED OUT
1:58:00PM WHENEVER WE GET HEAVY RAINS BECAUSE OF THESE ILLEGAL FILLING
1:58:05PM IN OF THE DITCHES, THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING.
1:58:08PM SO PLEASE, REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL AS QUICK AS YOU CAN.
1:58:14PM AGAIN, THAT WAS THE MAIN FOCUS ON WHY I WANTED TO BRING THIS
1:58:16PM UP, THE CAUSE AND EFFECT OF LEGAL, ILLEGAL -- DITCHES BEING
1:58:22PM FILLED IN ILLEGALLY.
1:58:23PM >>VIK BHIDE: UNDERSTOOD.
1:58:24PM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
1:58:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YES, MA'AM.
1:58:27PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
1:58:29PM ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY McLANE EVANS.
1:58:34PM OF COURSE, IT IS YOUR DISCRETION.
1:58:37PM A COUPLE OF YOU MENTIONED YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE UPDATE
1:58:37PM MOTIONS.
1:58:37PM BUT I JUST WANTED TO REMIND YOU MR. BHIDE DOES APPEAR
1:58:40PM QUARTERLY WITH STORMWATER UPDATES, PERHAPS FOR THE SAKE OF
1:58:43PM YOUR AGENDA EFFICIENCY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAG THE UPDATE ON
1:58:47PM TO HIS NEXT SCHEDULED UPDATE.
1:58:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:58:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
1:58:54PM THANK YOU.
1:58:55PM CAN WE JUST ADD THAT TO THE STORMWATER UPDATES, THE
1:58:58PM QUARTERLY --
1:59:01PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
1:59:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT ANYTHING MAJOR.
1:59:04PM JUST HOW WE'RE DOING, ANY ISSUES, PROBLEMS, MAYBE NEW
1:59:08PM SUGGESTIONS YOUR STAFF HAS FOR DIFFERENT WAYS.
1:59:12PM I THINK THAT IS THE PERFECT TIME WHERE WE'RE ALL TALKING
1:59:14PM ABOUT STORMWATER.
1:59:15PM SO THANK YOU.
1:59:19PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
1:59:19PM THAT'S REASONABLE.
1:59:20PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. BHIDE, IF I MIGHT ADD, WHEN YOU DO THAT
1:59:23PM REPORT, IF THERE ARE CONCERNS BY NEIGHBORS WHO THEIR
1:59:26PM PROPERTY IS AFFECTED BY THESE DITCHES THAT HAVE BEEN FILLED
1:59:29PM IN ILLEGALLY, SOME SORT OF REMEDY THAT MIGHT HELP STOP THE
1:59:34PM FLOODING OR NOT MAKE IT AS BAD AS WHAT IT IS BECAUSE OF
1:59:39PM THESE DITCHES BEING FILLED IN ILLEGALLY.
1:59:41PM PLEASE AND THANK YOU.
1:59:42PM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
1:59:46PM THANK YOU.
1:59:48PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NUMBER CM22-78127.
2:00:02PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
2:00:04PM I BELIEVE IT IS ON YOUR AGENDA AS A DISCUSSION ABOUT
2:00:07PM PROPERTY LIEN ISSUES.
2:00:09PM I'M HERE.
2:00:10PM HAPPY TO FACILITATE THE CONVERSATION OR ANSWER QUESTIONS.
2:00:15PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I THINK THE GIST OF THIS MOTION AND
2:00:18PM DISCUSSION WAS A LOT OF TIMES, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF OUR --
2:00:23PM COMMUNITIES, WE HAVE A LOT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS ON
2:00:27PM THEIR PROPERTIES AND THERE ARE LIENS.
2:00:29PM A LOT OF TIMES THEY CAN'T APPLY FOR SOME OF THE CITY REHAB
2:00:33PM FUNDING OR ANY TYPE OF PROGRAMMING BECAUSE OF THE LIENS.
2:00:36PM SO I'M WONDERING HOW CAN WE OR WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET THOSE
2:00:39PM PROPERTIES BACK INTO CIRCULATION TO BE ABLE TO GET THOSE
2:00:43PM LIENS OR MOVE THOSE LIENS OR GET THE HOMEOWNER OR IF THEY
2:00:47PM DISAPPEAR, FIND A WAY TO GET THAT PROPERTY TO DO WHATEVER TO
2:00:51PM PUT THOSE HOMES BACK INTO CIRCULATION AND GET RID OF SLUM
2:00:53PM AND BLIGHT.
2:00:54PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE PRIMARY FOCUS OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT
2:00:57PM PROGRAM IS TO CORRECT THE CODE VIOLATIONS AND NOT REALLY
2:01:00PM PUNISH THE PROPERTY OWNER.
2:01:02PM THE LIENS DO HAVE A DAILY FINE THAT DOES ADD UP.
2:01:07PM AND IT DOES BECOME A CLOUD ON THEIR TITLE.
2:01:11PM BUT IF THEY ARE WILLING TO REMEDY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT
2:01:14PM ISSUE, THEN THE CITY HAS FAIRLY BROAD AUTHORITY TO RELEASE
2:01:18PM THE PENALTY PORTION.
2:01:19PM SO THAT'S ONE WAY THAT WE HAVE TRIED TO REMEDY THE ISSUE, SO
2:01:22PM WE TRY TO RELEASE THE LIENS VIRTUALLY AT VERY LITTLE COST.
2:01:27PM WE DON'T TRY TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT ON TOP OF ACTUALLY
2:01:31PM TAKING ACTION TO REMEDY THE VIOLATION.
2:01:35PM WE DO HAVE A NUMBER, AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE CRA HAS A NUMBER
2:01:38PM OF PROGRAMS WHERE WE REALLY DON'T TALK ABOUT LIENS, THE
2:01:43PM ROOFING EMERGENCY GRANT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
2:01:45PM TECHNICALLY, THAT WOULD BE A CODE VIOLATION, NOT HAVING A
2:01:49PM PROPER ROOF ON YOUR HOUSE.
2:01:51PM AND WE'RE PUTTING THE ROOFS ON PEOPLE'S HOUSES WITHOUT
2:01:54PM ASKING FOR A RELEASE OF THAT LIEN OR DEAL WITH CODE
2:01:58PM ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.
2:01:58PM WE'RE JUST GOING IN AND DOING IT.
2:02:00PM TREE TRIMMING IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE WE TRY TO GO IN AND
2:02:03PM ADDRESS ISSUES WITHOUT SAYING, OH, YOU HAVE TO RELEASE THE
2:02:07PM LIEN OR REMEDY THE ISSUE FIRST.
2:02:09PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
2:02:10PM GLAD YOU'RE SAYING THAT IN PUBLIC.
2:02:12PM MY UNDERSTANDING, IF THEY HAD A LIEN, WE COULDN'T HELP THEM.
2:02:15PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: SOME PROGRAMS ARE SET UP WHERE YOU CAN'T.
2:02:17PM IT'S PROGRAM BY PROGRAM.
2:02:20PM WE CAN CERTAINLY GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR PROGRAMS AND LOOK
2:02:22PM AT THAT ITEM.
2:02:25PM BUT THE GIST OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SYSTEM, AS I'M AWARE,
2:02:28PM AND WE CAN LOOK AT HOW WE RELEASE LIENS, BUT ESPECIALLY FOR
2:02:33PM HOMEOWNERS, IT'S NOT TO PENALIZE THEM.
2:02:37PM IT IS TO INCENTIVIZE THEM TO REMEDY THE SITUATION AND THEN
2:02:41PM WE'LL GO AHEAD AND RELEASE THE LIEN AT LITTLE OR VERY
2:02:45PM REDUCED AMOUNT DOLLAR-WISE, PENALTY-WISE.
2:02:49PM THAT'S REALLY, WE DON'T WANT TO --
2:02:52PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: HOPEFULLY YOU CAN GET THIS COUNCIL A COPY
2:02:57PM OF WHAT THOSE REMEDIES ARE, WHAT THOSE CRITERIA ARE.
2:03:01PM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WITH THE HOUSING CRISIS, A
2:03:03PM LOT OF THESE HOUSES JUST SITTING DORMANT AND VACANT.
2:03:07PM AND IF THERE ARE LIENS, WE SHOULD BE GOING IN THERE TRYING
2:03:11PM TO SEE IF WE CAN GET WITH THE OWNERS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, HOW
2:03:14PM WE CAN PUT THAT IN CIRCULATION OR DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO.
2:03:17PM I'M ALWAYS HEARING ABOUT THE LIEN.
2:03:19PM SO I THINK GOING FORWARD HOPEFULLY THIS COUNCIL, FUTURE
2:03:24PM COUNCIL WILL LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HOW WE CAN FIX THAT
2:03:26PM PROCESS BECAUSE IF THEY ARE OUR LIENS AND WE HAVE A HOUSING
2:03:29PM CRISIS, HOW CAN WE MAKE THAT RIGHT TO WHERE WE CAN HELP --
2:03:33PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: UNDERSTOOD.
2:03:34PM OBVIOUSLY, IF IT IS PART OF A CITY PROJECT, THE CITY IS
2:03:37PM INVOLVED IN TRYING TO, I DON'T KNOW, PURCHASE PROPERTY, WE
2:03:41PM CAN GO IN AND ADDRESS THE LIEN ISSUES OURSELVES.
2:03:44PM WE DID THAT WITH THE GROCERY STORE THAT WE PURCHASED THERE
2:03:50PM TO EXPAND THE EAST TAMPA REGIONAL PARK COMPLEX THAT'S GOING
2:03:54PM IN, THAT HAD A SLEW OF LIENS ON IT.
2:03:56PM AND WE WENT AHEAD AND TOOK TITLE, TOOK DOWN THE BUILDING.
2:03:59PM THE LIEN ISSUES ARE RESOLVED.
2:04:00PM IF IT'S INVOLVED IN A CITY REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT SUCH AS
2:04:04PM THAT, WE WILL GO IN AND JUST TAKE CARE OF IT OURSELVES AS
2:04:07PM WELL.
2:04:07PM SO THAT'S ANOTHER WAY OF DEALING WITH IT.
2:04:11PM AGAIN, CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE IS THE ATTORNEY THAT SITS WITH
2:04:17PM CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD.
2:04:18PM I THOUGHT I HAD THEIR MOST RECENT ADMINISTRATIVE GUIDELINES
2:04:21PM FOR RELEASING LIENS, BUT, AGAIN, IT'S TIED ON TIMELINESS.
2:04:28PM IF YOU LET IT GO FOREVER AND EVER, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT
2:04:32PM STAFF IS AUTHORIZED TO RELEASE GETS A LITTLE HIGHER.
2:04:37PM BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY WANT THE CODE ISSUE REMEDY, THE
2:04:42PM PENALTY PORTION IS REALLY NOT SOMETHING THE CITY IS REALLY
2:04:45PM CONCERNED ABOUT.
2:04:46PM WE JUST WANT THE CODE VIOLATION REMEDIED.
2:04:50PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THE REASON I SAID, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE
2:04:53PM CAN'T PAY THE LIEN BUT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO GET THAT
2:04:56PM PROPERTY FIXED EITHER.
2:04:57PM SO IF WE HAVE PROGRAMS, THAT'S WHY I WAS LOOKING, WE CONTROL
2:05:01PM THE LIEN, THEY CAN GET IN OUR PROGRAM AND ADD IT TO THEIR
2:05:05PM MORTGAGE, WHATEVER WE CAN DO, AT LEAST PUT IT BACK IN
2:05:08PM CIRCULATION.
2:05:08PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE CAN ALSO LOOK THROUGH OUR REDEVELOPMENT,
2:05:11PM YOU ALL SITTING AS CRA, WE CAN POTENTIALLY LOOK AT REVAMPING
2:05:14PM SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS AND CRITERIA SO THAT PART OF THE CRA
2:05:18PM GRANT MONEY COULD BE USED FOR THAT EXPRESS PURPOSE.
2:05:21PM I'M NOT SAYING WE CAN'T DO THAT.
2:05:23PM WE CAN POTENTIALLY DO THAT.
2:05:24PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU, SIR.
2:05:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:05:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR THE DISCUSSION, AND THANK YOU
2:05:32PM FOR TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO.
2:05:36PM I UNDERSTAND THE CITY'S GOAL IS TO BRING PEOPLE INTO
2:05:38PM COMPLIANCE.
2:05:39PM BUT WHAT I'M ALSO HEARING FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES IS WHAT
2:05:42PM HAPPENS WHEN THEY DON'T GET INTO COMPLIANCE AND WE HAVE
2:05:44PM THESE EMPTY PROPERTIES?
2:05:47PM WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN THESE
2:05:49PM HOUSES.
2:05:50PM HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE EMPTY, THAT ARE
2:05:53PM CAUSING A BLIGHT ON THE COMMUNITY AS PLACES WHERE PEOPLE
2:05:57PM CONGREGATE, WHERE THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO.
2:05:59PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE CAN IDENTIFY THOSE.
2:06:01PM WE HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS THAT ARE VALID, WE CAN
2:06:03PM FORECLOSE THOSE, AND WE HAVE.
2:06:05PM ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE EXPENDED HARD COST LIENS AND THEY ARE
2:06:10PM NOT HOMESTEAD AND NOT OCCUPIED, THOSE ARE PROPERTIES THAT WE
2:06:14PM WOULD LOOK TO POTENTIALLY FORECLOSE AND ACQUIRE FOR
2:06:17PM POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS BY THE CITY OR BY THE CRA.
2:06:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY YOUR AREA OF
2:06:25PM EXPERTISE, BUT DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE PROPERTIES WE
2:06:28PM CURRENTLY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH?
2:06:32PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I KNOW AT ONE TIME WE DID LOOK AT
2:06:35PM PROPERTIES PRIMARILY IN THE EAST TAMPA AND SULPHUR SPRINGS
2:06:39PM AREA THAT WERE NON-HOMESTEAD THAT WE HAD -- THERE WERE CODE
2:06:43PM VIOLATIONS OUTSTANDING OR POTENTIALLY OUTSTANDING STILL THAT
2:06:47PM THE CITY HAD HARD COSTS ON.
2:06:49PM WE DID KIND OF AN ANALYSIS OF THAT.
2:06:52PM WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE MUCH LARGER.
2:06:54PM WE CAME DOWN TO PROBABLY LESS THAN 40 PROPERTIES THAT WERE
2:06:57PM ELIGIBLE.
2:06:58PM BUT WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT AGAIN, GO THROUGH THAT
2:07:01PM EXERCISE AGAIN.
2:07:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT JUST BECAUSE HISTORY
2:07:06PM SHOWS THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A PROPERTY THAT'S BLIGHTED LIKE
2:07:10PM THAT, THAT ALL THE NEIGHBORS, IT'S A PROBLEM PROPERTY.
2:07:13PM IF WE COULD COME IN AND TAKE IT, IF IT NEEDS TO GO THROUGH
2:07:18PM THE FORECLOSURE PROCESS BECAUSE THE OWNER WILL NOT TAKE CARE
2:07:22PM OF IT AND IT'S FIXED UP AND THEN ABLE TO BE SOLD, IT WILL
2:07:26PM CHANGE A COMMUNITY.
2:07:27PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
2:07:29PM WE AGREE WITH THAT.
2:07:30PM WE DO WANT TO BE CAREFUL IF WE GO DOWN THAT PATH THAT WE DO
2:07:32PM IT IN A TARGETED SORT OF WAY SO THAT WE'RE NOT TAKING
2:07:37PM PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES AWAY FROM THEM.
2:07:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY.
2:07:41PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: SO IT IS A BALANCE, SO WE HAVE TO BE VERY
2:07:44PM CAREFUL HOW WE PROCEED THERE.
2:07:46PM YES, I HEAR YOU.
2:07:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN THIS DISCUSSION IS OVER, I WOULD LIKE TO
2:07:51PM MAKE A MOTION TO CREATE THAT LIST AGAIN AND THEN MAYBE FOCUS
2:07:55PM ON FINDING REALLY PAYING ATTENTION TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS
2:07:59PM AND TRYING TO REACH OUT SPECIFICALLY TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
2:08:04PM I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO GO FORWARD.
2:08:07PM SO THANK YOU.
2:08:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:08:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD SUPPORT THAT IDEA, TOO.
2:08:16PM LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT QUESTION.
2:08:18PM IF A PROPERTY HAS CODE ENFORCEMENT FINES, DOES THE STAFF --
2:08:33PM I'M ASKING A TECHNICAL QUESTION -- DOES THE STAFF HAVE THE
2:08:37PM RIGHT TO WAIVE THEM?
2:08:39PM IF NOT, CAN THE MAYOR WAIVE THEM BY EXECUTIVE ORDER?
2:08:42PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE STAFF HAS THE AUTHORITY TO WAIVE THEM
2:08:45PM DOWN TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF PROPERTY,
2:08:49PM IF IT'S HOMESTEAD OR NOT.
2:08:51PM IF IT'S HOMESTEAD, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THE PENALTY
2:08:54PM DOWN TO ALMOST NOTHING UNDER AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT THE
2:08:57PM MAYOR ISSUED.
2:08:58PM IF IT'S NOT HOMESTEAD, THEN THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THE FINE,
2:09:06PM WE CAN WAIVE IT, BUT IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS WE WOULD FOR
2:09:09PM SOMEONE'S HOMESTEAD PROPERTY.
2:09:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE A LIMIT THAT A MAYOR, NOT THIS, BUT
2:09:16PM A MAYOR CAN WAIVE, A MAYOR CAN WAIVE --
2:09:19PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NO, THERE'S NO LIMIT.
2:09:21PM DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS HAVE COME UP WITH DIFFERENT
2:09:24PM PROGRAMS.
2:09:24PM SOME JURISDICTIONS HAVE LIEN WAIVER HOLIDAYS THAT IF YOU
2:09:30PM BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE, ALL LIENS ARE FORGIVEN AND THEY'LL
2:09:33PM DO IT FOR A ONE-MONTH PERIOD.
2:09:35PM DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS HAVE COME UP WITH DIFFERENT
2:09:38PM STRATEGIES.
2:09:40PM ALL OF THEM ARE AIMED AT TRYING TO BRING PROPERTY IN
2:09:43PM COMPLIANCE.
2:09:44PM OUR EXECUTIVE ORDER ALSO ALLOWS IF IT'S PART OF A REHAB
2:09:48PM EFFORT OF SOME KIND, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIVE ALL FINES.
2:09:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW OFTEN THAT HAPPENS
2:09:56PM THAT THEY ARE WAIVED?
2:09:58PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DON'T KNOW -- I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY.
2:10:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE A COUPLE TIMES A MONTH, 20 TIMES A
2:10:03PM MONTH?
2:10:04PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DON'T KNOW, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.
2:10:06PM IT OFTEN COMES UP, OBVIOUSLY, WHEN SOMEONE IS TRYING TO SELL
2:10:09PM THEIR PROPERTY OR REFINANCE THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE THEN THE
2:10:12PM LENDER COME IN AND SAY, I WON'T MAKE THE LOAN UNTIL YOU DEAL
2:10:20PM WITH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
2:10:21PM THAT TYPICALLY COMES UP WHEN SOMEBODY COMES TO THE CITY AND
2:10:25PM SAYS WE'RE READY TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUE AND WHAT DO WE NEED
2:10:27PM TO DO TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE?
2:10:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: A COUPLE OF CONCERNS I HEARD IN THE
2:10:31PM COMMUNITY, AND NOT SO MUCH THIS ADMINISTRATION BUT BEFORE,
2:10:33PM THERE WAS A PROPERTY, AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY WHICH PROPERTY
2:10:36PM OR ANYTHING, BUT THERE WAS A PROPERTY IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT
2:10:38PM WAS HIGH PROFILE SIX OR SO YEARS AGO WHERE ALLEGEDLY THE
2:10:45PM LAST MAYOR WAIVED LIKE ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS IN FEES.
2:10:50PM BUT THERE IS AT LEAST ONE PROPERTY OWNER IN EAST TAMPA THAT
2:10:54PM HAS A HIGH AMOUNT THAT WAS NOT WAIVED.
2:10:57PM THE ALLEGATION, NOT HAD ANY ALLEGATIONS AGAINST THIS
2:11:02PM ADMINISTRATION FOR THIS, BUT THE ALLEGATION WAS THAT IT WAS
2:11:06PM ARBITRARY OR POLITICAL.
2:11:08PM IF YOU ARE A FRIEND, YOU GET IT WAIVED.
2:11:10PM IF NOT --
2:11:11PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I CAN PROVIDE YOU ALL, AT LEAST IN THIS
2:11:14PM ADMINISTRATION, THERE IS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT SETS OUT AN
2:11:16PM EVEN PLAYING FIELD FOR THESE PROPERTIES, WE'LL DO THIS.
2:11:19PM THESE PROPERTIES, WE'LL DO THAT.
2:11:20PM IT'S BASED ON OBJECTIVE CRITERIA AND NOT WHO YOU ARE.
2:11:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT WOULD BE GREAT SO WE CAN ANSWER
2:11:26PM QUESTIONS.
2:11:27PM SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE LINGERING MEMORIES FROM A LONG TIME
2:11:30PM AGO.
2:11:30PM I ASSUME BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS, I DON'T KNOW
2:11:33PM IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THAT IT'S
2:11:35PM BEEN DONE EQUITABLY.
2:11:38PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE IN THE FUTURE THAT IT'S NOT DONE IN AN
2:11:41PM ARBITRARY WAY BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO
2:11:45PM STILL HAVE CONTROL OF THE HOUSES.
2:11:47PM THEY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IT WAIVED BUT CAN'T.
2:11:49PM THANK YOU.
2:11:51PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:11:52PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:11:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF THERE AREN'T, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE MY
2:11:56PM MOTION TO BRING THE LIST OF HOUSES THAT COULD POSSIBLY
2:12:02PM BENEFIT FROM A SECOND LOOK THAT HAVE A LOT OF LIENS AND ARE
2:12:06PM NOT HOMESTEADED.
2:12:09PM ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK?
2:12:10PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF YOU COULD MAKE THAT MAYBE IN EITHER YOUR
2:12:13PM MEETING OR WORKSHOP IN JULY, JUST TO GIVE US TIME TO MAKE
2:12:15PM SURE WE HAVE -- BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE TO RESEARCH THE LIST AND
2:12:18PM UPDATE THE LIST.
2:12:19PM SOMETIMES WHAT WE FOUND WHEN WE ORIGINALLY DID THE LIST, WE
2:12:23PM ORIGINALLY THOUGHT WE HAD A LOT.
2:12:25PM A LOT OF PROPERTIES CONVEYED ACTUALLY TO NOT FOR PROFITS FOR
2:12:28PM REHAB PURPOSES.
2:12:30PM FOR SOME REASON THERE WAS NOT PROPER DOCUMENTATION SHOWING
2:12:32PM THE LIENS HAD BEEN RELEASED.
2:12:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
2:12:36PM HOW ABOUT JULY 27?
2:12:41PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT'S FINE.
2:12:42PM >> SECOND.
2:12:42PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
2:12:50PM HURTAK.
2:12:50PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:12:52PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
2:12:53PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:12:55PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:12:56PM MOTION PASSES.
2:12:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND, OF COURSE, IF THERE'S MORE TIME NEEDED,
2:13:01PM PLEASE JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL MAKE AN EXTENSION.
2:13:05PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:13:06PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE CM22-78638.
2:13:14PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
2:13:15PM THIS IS A CONTINUANCE REQUEST, HOWEVER I DO HAVE A MEMO WITH
2:13:20PM A STATUS UPDATE THAT I WANTED TO PROVIDE WITH SOME BACKUP.
2:13:24PM THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO A MOTION ON NOVEMBER 17, CITY COUNCIL
2:13:28PM ASKED STAFF TO CONDUCT ADDITIONAL PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT
2:13:31PM REGARDING ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, SPECIFICALLY SOUTH OF
2:13:36PM KENNEDY IN THE SOUTH TAMPA AREAS.
2:13:39PM WE HELD TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS.
2:13:42PM ONE WAS ON FEBRUARY 7 ON DAVIS ISLANDS THAT WAS VIRTUAL.
2:13:46PM THE SECOND WAS IN HYDE PARK, KATE JACKSON CENTER FEBRUARY
2:13:50PM 27.
2:13:51PM THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR ATTENDING THE HYDE PARK
2:13:54PM MEETING.
2:13:54PM BOTH MEETINGS HAD ABOUT 40 PARTICIPANTS.
2:13:59PM WE PRESENTED AN OVERVIEW OF THE CURRENT CODE RELATED TO
2:14:02PM ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
2:14:03PM THE CURRENT CODE RELATED TO EXTENDED FAMILY RESIDENCES AS
2:14:09PM WELL AS THE CRITERIA FOR JUST GENERALLY ANY ACCESSORY
2:14:12PM STRUCTURE IN THE CITY.
2:14:15PM AND THEN WE DISCUSSED SOME POTENTIAL OPTIONS FOR CRITERIA
2:14:17PM THAT COULD BE USED MOVING FORWARD IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THE
2:14:23PM GEOGRAPHIC AREAS WITH THE MODIFICATION TO THE ORDINANCE.
2:14:26PM THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED FROM THE HYDE PARK GROUP WERE
2:14:31PM PROVIDED.
2:14:32PM THESE WERE PREPARED BY MARY LOU BAILEY.
2:14:34PM I WANT TO THANK HER IF SHE'S ONLINE OR WATCHING.
2:14:38PM VERY THOROUGH AND VERY HELPFUL.
2:14:40PM WHAT STAFF IS GOING TO BE DOING MOVING FORWARD -- AND I'VE
2:14:43PM SUMMARIZED, CONDENSED IT EVEN FURTHER INTO A SET OF BULLETS
2:14:46PM IN THE MEMO JUST TO EXPLAIN GENERALLY WHAT WE HEARD.
2:14:49PM THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, A LOT OF CONCERNS, A LOT OF
2:14:52PM THEM RELATE TO JUST WANTING TO UNDERSTAND BETTER WHAT THE
2:14:57PM CODE REQUIRES AND WHAT IT DOESN'T REQUIRE, WHAT THE
2:14:59PM DEFINITIONS ARE AND JUST THE PROCESS.
2:15:01PM SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PREPARING INFORMATION AND
2:15:05PM OUTREACH MATERIALS AND THAT SORT OF THING THAT WE COULD THEN
2:15:09PM GO OUT AND COMMUNICATE AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT IS
2:15:11PM ALLOWED AND NOT ALLOWED.
2:15:13PM WHAT IS AN ADU.
2:15:14PM WHAT IS NOT AN ADU.
2:15:16PM EVEN THAT DISCUSSION ALONE TOOK 30 MINUTES GOING INTO SOME
2:15:19PM OF THE DETAILS.
2:15:20PM SO WE'LL BE PREPARING THAT INFORMATION, AND THAT WILL BE
2:15:23PM COMING BACK IN SEPTEMBER WITH THE RESULTS OF THE HOUSING
2:15:27PM NEEDS EVALUATION, WHICH IS GOING TO GIVE US MORE SPECIFIC
2:15:30PM NUMBERS IN TERMS OF WHAT THE NEED IS FOR A HOUSING TYPE THAT
2:15:36PM IS SMALL AND THAT IS MORE AFFORDABLE, SOMETHING THAT AN ADU
2:15:42PM COULD ACTUALLY ADDRESS.
2:15:43PM AN ADU IS NOT THE SILVER BULLET SOLUTION TO THE HOUSING
2:15:46PM CRISIS, BUT WE KNOW THERE IS A NEED FOR THAT SPECIFIC TYPE
2:15:50PM OF HOUSING AND WHAT DOES THAT NEED LOOK LIKE NOW AND MOVING
2:15:53PM INTO THE FUTURE?
2:15:53PM ONCE WE HAVE THE DATA AND SOME OF THE EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL
2:15:56PM DEVELOPED WE'LL COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND THEN PROVIDE A
2:15:58PM BROADER UPDATE WITH ACTUAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
2:16:02PM SO WE'RE NOT BRINGING FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY.
2:16:04PM WE'RE TAKING THE INPUT WE RECEIVED AND MODIFIED WHAT WE
2:16:07PM SHOWED YOU LAST YEAR AND THEN COME BACK WITH A NEW
2:16:09PM RECOMMENDATION.
2:16:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:16:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS.
2:16:13PM ONE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER.
2:16:16PM WHAT DATE?
2:16:17PM >> I BELIEVE THE 22nd FOR THE WORKSHOP.
2:16:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS TO WHATEVER DATE HE
2:16:22PM JUST SAID.
2:16:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:16:28PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:16:34PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
2:16:37PM >> YES, PLEASE.
2:16:38PM THANK YOU.
2:16:44PM >> YES, SEPTEMBER 28.
2:16:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: SEPTEMBER 28.
2:16:48PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:16:51PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:16:52PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:16:55PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:16:55PM MOTION CARRIES.
2:16:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
2:16:57PM I'VE ATTENDED A LOT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS.
2:17:02PM I'VE ATTENDED A LOT OF REALLY DIFFICULT AND CHALLENGING
2:17:04PM PUBLIC MEETINGS.
2:17:05PM I WALKED IN ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH OR SOMETHING ON THIS ONE
2:17:09PM AND IT WAS A REALLY DIFFICULT PUBLIC MEETING.
2:17:11PM THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP THERE AND TALKING TO EVERYBODY.
2:17:15PM SO WE WOULD NOT PROPOSE INCLUDING SOUTH TAMPA UNTIL AFTER
2:17:20PM SEPTEMBER THEN, RIGHT?
2:17:24PM >> WE HAVE PAUSED EVERYTHING.
2:17:28PM THIS MOTION WAS JUST FOR SOUTH TAMPA.
2:17:30PM WE'VE ALSO, AND WE'VE ALSO GONE AND HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS AT
2:17:34PM THE REQUEST OF COUNCILMAN GUDES WITH EAST TAMPA.
2:17:36PM SO WE'RE TRYING TO BRING ALL OF THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE WHAT
2:17:39PM WE DON'T WANT IS TO HAVE DIFFERENT RULES IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
2:17:43PM THAT WAS SORT OF THE SUBTEXT OF WHAT YOU TOLD US LAST TIME.
2:17:46PM WE DID PAUSE EVERYTHING.
2:17:47PM WHEN WE COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REVISIT
2:17:50PM EVERYTHING HOLISTICALLY.
2:17:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
2:17:53PM ONE, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE AS LONG AS WE NEED TO
2:17:57PM GET THIS DONE.
2:17:58PM IF IT TAKES ANOTHER YEAR, LET'S DO THAT BECAUSE WE NEED TO
2:18:01PM GET DEEP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITY.
2:18:02PM PEOPLE ARE VERY, VERY, VERY WORRIED AND UPSET ABOUT THIS,
2:18:06PM AND WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL.
2:18:08PM BUT, ALSO, I WAS JUST IN -- WITH MY OTHER HAT ON, I WAS
2:18:12PM IN -- I PARTICIPATE IN THE TAMPA CHAMBER BENCHMARKING TRIPS
2:18:17PM AND ALSO THE ST. PETE CHAMBER BENCHMARKING TRIPS AND
2:18:20PM SOMETIMES OTHERS, BUT I WAS IN AUSTIN THE LAST THREE DAYS
2:18:23PM WITH ST. PETE CHAMBER AND WE HAD MAYOR WELCH AND THREE OF
2:18:26PM THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
2:18:28PM WE MET WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND POLICY ISSUES.
2:18:31PM ONE WAS HOUSING AND WE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT PANELS ON IT.
2:18:36PM NUMBER ONE, THE HOUSING PEOPLE SAID WE THOUGHT ADU WOULD BE
2:18:38PM A BIG SOLUTION.
2:18:39PM IT WASN'T.
2:18:40PM IT WAS A BUST.
2:18:40PM SO THIS IS NOT -- WE SPENT WAY, WAY, WAY TOO MUCH TIME ON
2:18:45PM THIS FOR WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO, AT LEAST ON THEIR
2:18:51PM EXPERIENCE.
2:18:52PM THEY SAID PEOPLE DIDN'T BUILD THEM BECAUSE OF THE LAND AND
2:18:55PM CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
2:18:55PM SO IT WASN'T THE SOLUTION THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
2:19:00PM PLUS ALL THE RESTRICTIONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING ON.
2:19:03PM YOU MAY HAVE OTHER EXAMPLES OF OTHER CITIES WHERE IT'S
2:19:05PM WORKED.
2:19:06PM BUT JUST BECAUSE SOME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE PUSHING
2:19:09PM FOR IT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD SPEND A LOT OF OUR TIME ON IT.
2:19:12PM SECOND, AND THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, THEY ARE
2:19:15PM HAVING ALL THE SAME DISCUSSIONS WE'RE HAVING, BUT THE ONE
2:19:17PM THING THEY SAID WAS THAT THEY WISHED TEN YEARS AGO THAT THEY
2:19:22PM HAD TAKEN THE NUMBER OF HOUSES THEY THOUGHT THEY NEEDED AND
2:19:25PM MULTIPLY IT BY TEN.
2:19:26PM THEIR BIGGEST THREAT RIGHT NOW, COMPANIES, THE BIG TECH
2:19:30PM COMPANIES AREN'T MOVING TO AUSTIN BECAUSE AFFORDABILITY HAS
2:19:34PM BECOME THEIR NUMBER ONE ISSUE.
2:19:35PM AND WE ARE WHERE THEY WERE TEN YEARS AGO.
2:19:40PM AND WE'RE DESPERATELY TRYING TO CATCH UP.
2:19:43PM BUT THEY SAID WE HAVE NO IDEA, WE WERE HAVING THE RIGHT
2:19:46PM DISCUSSIONS BUT WE HAD NO IDEA THE VOLUME THAT WE WERE GOING
2:19:49PM TO NEED.
2:19:50PM THEY SAID WE WERE ON THE VERGE OF BECOMING A BIG CITY AND
2:19:53PM NOW WE WISH WE HAD GONE BACKWARDS.
2:19:54PM THE NUMBER ONE THING WAS LAND, WHICH WE'VE ALL BEEN TALKING
2:19:57PM ABOUT.
2:19:58PM HOW DO WE ASSEMBLE LAND, HOW DO WE DO THAT?
2:20:00PM WE NEED TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WANT TO BE
2:20:03PM PROTECTED BUT THE AREAS THAT WE CAN BUILD IN, I THINK WE'VE
2:20:06PM GOT TO ACCELERATE.
2:20:07PM WE'VE GOT TO SHOOT WAY HIGHER THAN WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
2:20:11PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOUSING UNITS IN GENERAL.
2:20:13PM AND IT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGH CONVERSATION, BUT IT WILL
2:20:17PM DECIMATE OUR ECONOMY IF WE DON'T START PLANNING AHEAD RIGHT
2:20:20PM NOW.
2:20:20PM THESE ARE FROM PEOPLE INSIDE THE CITY CHAMBER AND OTHER
2:20:24PM GROUPS THAT ARE WORKING ON BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT THERE.
2:20:26PM THANK YOU.
2:20:26PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:20:28PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: THANK YOU FOR THAT, STEPHEN.
2:20:32PM THERE ARE SOME FOR AND SOME NOT.
2:20:36PM WE'RE ALREADY A TRANSIT AREA IN SOME OF OUR AREAS.
2:20:38PM THEY DON'T WANT MORE SLUM AND BLIGHT TO BRING THAT ON AND
2:20:41PM PEOPLE NOT BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE ADUs, WHICH I CAN'T
2:20:44PM BLAME THEM.
2:20:46PM THEN AGAIN WE HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.
2:20:47PM IT SADDENED ME, ONE OF THE YOUNG LADIES, ONE OF MY
2:20:50PM BASKETBALL PLAYERS, SHE CAME IN AND SPOKE ON MY BEHALF
2:20:54PM BEFORE.
2:20:54PM SCHOOL OVER OFF OF MLK, SHE FOUND ANOTHER BUILDING TO EXPAND
2:21:00PM HER SCHOOL.
2:21:01PM AS SHE WENT TO THE NEW BUILDING, AND SHE PUT IT ON
2:21:06PM FACEBOOK.
2:21:07PM SHE SAW TWO YOUNG MEN, SMALL KIDS OUT PLAYING BASKETBALL IN
2:21:11PM FRONT OF THE NEW BUILDING.
2:21:17PM SHE THINK SHE MIGHT GET THE TWO KIDS TO BE A PART OF THE
2:21:20PM SCHOOL.
2:21:21PM COME TO FIND OUT THE KIDS WERE HOMELESS AND THEIR MOM HAD
2:21:25PM BUILT A TENT BEHIND THE BUILDING, MR. MIRANDA.
2:21:28PM AND SHE SAYS THAT SHE WENT BEHIND THE BUILDING WITH THE TWO
2:21:33PM KIDS.
2:21:35PM SHE SAID THEY WERE WELL MANNERED.
2:21:37PM YES, MA'AM.
2:21:38PM NO, MA'AM.
2:21:38PM SHE SAYS THAT SHE WENT TO TALK TO THE MOTHER, THE MOTHER HAD
2:21:44PM ALL THE KIDS' CLOTHES NEATLY IN THE TENT, FOOD SET UP FOR
2:21:47PM THE KIDS.
2:21:49PM SHE SAID SHE WAS AFRAID THAT THE MOTHER WAS GOING TO RUN
2:21:54PM OFF.
2:21:57PM SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
2:21:58PM SHE STARTED CRYING BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT
2:22:04PM SOMEBODY, A BUILDING SHE JUST BOUGHT THAT THESE TWO KIDS
2:22:08PM WITH A MOM WHO GOT NO PLACE TO GO FOUND A WAY TO BUILD A
2:22:11PM TENT BEHIND THE BUILDING SO THE KIDS COULD HAVE A PLACE TO
2:22:15PM STAY.
2:22:16PM KIND OF LIKE I TOLD YOU WHEN I USED TO GO TO THE PARKING
2:22:20PM LOTS AND SEE THE MOTHERS IN THE PARKING LOTS AT NIGHT AND
2:22:22PM THEY GO TO McDONALD'S TO BATHE THEM IN THE MORNING FOR
2:22:25PM SCHOOL.
2:22:25PM BUT YET WE HARP ABOUT AN ECONOMY.
2:22:30PM THE ECONOMY IS GOOD.
2:22:32PM SAY RECESSION ALL YOU WANT.
2:22:33PM RECESSION, PEOPLE ARE SPENDING MONEY THAT GOT MONEY.
2:22:36PM BUT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE COMPASSION BECAUSE WE'RE A CAPITALIST
2:22:41PM SOCIETY AND IT'S ALL ABOUT THE DOLLAR.
2:22:43PM YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE EVERYBODY
2:22:46PM DON'T MAKE THE KIND OF DOLLARS THAT EVERYONE ELSE MAKES.
2:22:49PM EVERYONE JUST DOESN'T.
2:22:53PM WHEN YOU SEE SMALL KIDS, YOU WONDER HOW THEY BECOME
2:22:58PM DEVELOPMENT CHALLENGED, YOU WONDER WHY THEY HAVE BEHAVIOR
2:23:01PM PROBLEMS.
2:23:02PM IF YOU NEVER LIVED IT, IF YOU NEVER LIVE IT AND SEEN IT, YOU
2:23:07PM DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
2:23:08PM BUT TO A MOTHER, I DON'T CARE IF SHE'S RICH OR NOT.
2:23:12PM BUT TO A MOTHER TO SEE TWO SMALL KIDS SLEEPING IN A TENT,
2:23:15PM THAT WOULD GET TO ANYBODY.
2:23:17PM GET TO ANYBODY.
2:23:19PM PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE CITY SHOULDN'T GET INTO THE HOUSE
2:23:24PM BUSINESS OR SHOULDN'T BE IN THE HOUSE MARKET, I HAVE TO
2:23:26PM DISAGREE BECAUSE GOVERNMENT HAS TO PLAY A PART SOMETIME WHEN
2:23:31PM PEOPLE ARE DOING BAD.
2:23:32PM RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE ARE DOING REAL BAD.
2:23:33PM I GOT TWO BUDDIES OF MINE, FOUND THEM A PLACE.
2:23:37PM ANOTHER BUDDY HELP THEM OUT.
2:23:39PM WHAT THEY MAKE IN YBOR CITY TRYING TO WORK, THEY DON'T MAKE
2:23:42PM ENOUGH TO PAY THE RENT.
2:23:43PM BOTH GET ANOTHER PERSON TO COME IN AND PAY THE RENT.
2:23:47PM 2400 BUCKS.
2:23:49PM THAT'S NOT NORMAL.
2:23:50PM I DON'T CARE WHAT NOBODY SAY.
2:23:52PM THAT'S NOT NORMAL.
2:23:53PM YET I'VE GOT CONDOMINIUMS, ALL THESE KIND OF PLACES IN
2:23:56PM DOWNTOWN ALL OVER THE PLACE THAT THE RENT IS SO HIGH, BUT NO
2:24:01PM ONE IS LIVING IN THEM THOUGH.
2:24:03PM NO ONE IS LIVING IN THEM.
2:24:05PM THAT'S A PROBLEM, MAN.
2:24:07PM TO ME, SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH SOCIETY.
2:24:11PM I GET WE'RE ABOUT MAKING MONEY.
2:24:14PM WANT TO MAKE MONEY.
2:24:15PM LOVE TO BE RICH.
2:24:17PM LOVE TO HAVE ALL KIND OF DREAMS.
2:24:20PM WHEN I SIT BACK SOMETIMES AND LISTEN TO THE STORIES, MR.
2:24:23PM CARLSON TALKS ABOUT WHEN WE GOES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND
2:24:26PM ABLE TO TAKE HIS CHILDREN TO GET THEM TO GET THAT
2:24:29PM EXPERIENCE, AND I DREAM ABOUT HOW I WISH I COULD TAKE MY
2:24:32PM GRANDKIDS TO THE PLACE AND SHOW THEM THE STUFF -- THAT'S
2:24:36PM VALUABLE INFORMATION BECAUSE, TAKE THEM TO OTHER POOR PLACES
2:24:40PM TO SEE HOW THEY LIVE.
2:24:41PM THAT'S WHY HE TALK THE WAY HE TALKS SOMETIMES BECAUSE HE'S
2:24:45PM SEEN OTHER COUNTRIES, HOW PEOPLE LIVE, HOW THEY CHANGE THEIR
2:24:48PM CULTURE.
2:24:48PM INFORMATION HE BRINGS BACK TO ME IS VALUABLE.
2:24:54PM I HOPE THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, I HAD ASKED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
2:24:59PM BUDGET NOW INCLUDES A PIECE OF THE PIE FOR HOUSING.
2:25:02PM I ASKED FOR THAT.
2:25:03PM HOPING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WILL DO THAT TO MAKE SURE
2:25:06PM HOUSING IS INCLUDED INTO THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE YOU GOT TO
2:25:09PM HAVE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE.
2:25:11PM YOU GOT TO HAVE HOUSING.
2:25:12PM SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU TOOK A STEP BACK AND HOPEFULLY
2:25:17PM MS. TRAVIS AND A FEW OTHERS CAN START LOOKING AT
2:25:20PM DEVELOPMENTS.
2:25:20PM YOU SAW THE YOUNG GENTLEMEN LAST WEEK, TALK ABOUT THE
2:25:24PM 22nd, IF YOU PUT SOMETHING THERE AND DON'T DO NOTHING ELSE
2:25:27PM AROUND IT, ALL YOU DID IS CREATE A DUMP AGAIN.
2:25:30PM THAT'S ALL YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
2:25:31PM WE'VE GOT 40th STREET AND HILLSBOROUGH.
2:25:37PM WHY DON'T WE TRY TO BUY THAT PROPERTY?
2:25:39PM FIND A WAY TO BUY THAT PROPERTY, PUT A GROCERY STORE, PUT
2:25:43PM SOMETHING VALUABLE IN THERE SO PEOPLE CAN GO THERE.
2:25:45PM A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY, MONEY IS JUST SITTING NOT
2:25:49PM BEING SPENT.
2:25:50PM I DON'T KNOW WHY.
2:25:51PM I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T SPEND THIS MONEY.
2:25:53PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T SPEND THIS MONEY.
2:25:55PM I'M HOPING THAT FUTURE CRA BOARDS WANT TO CONTINUE TO -- YOU
2:26:01PM GOT TO SPEND THAT MONEY, MAN.
2:26:04PM THERE'S MONEY.
2:26:05PM THERE'S MONEY IN THE CITY BUDGET, TOO.
2:26:07PM GOT TO FIND IT TO PUT IT TO THE RIGHT PLACES.
2:26:10PM SO, AGAIN, I KNOW MR. CARLSON AND A FEW OTHERS, THEY'LL KEEP
2:26:18PM FIGHTING BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE HUMANITY OF WHAT HAS TO
2:26:21PM HAPPEN IN THE CITY.
2:26:22PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:26:24PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:26:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO -- ONE THING I WANT TO ADD
2:26:29PM FROM THE DISCUSSION IN AUSTIN, WE ALSO LISTENED TO PRIVATE
2:26:33PM DEVELOPERS.
2:26:33PM THEY ALL SAID IF THEY COULD GO BACK TEN YEARS, THE NUMBER
2:26:36PM ONE THING THEY WOULD ALL DO, ALL THE HOUSING PEOPLE, ALL THE
2:26:39PM DEVELOPERS IS THE SAME THING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT HERE,
2:26:43PM WHICH IS BUYING LAND.
2:26:45PM I'M SURE MS. TRAVIS IS WATCHING AND HER PEOPLE.
2:26:49PM WE'VE GOT TO GET THOSE COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS GOING AS SOON
2:26:51PM AS POSSIBLE.
2:26:52PM WE ARE LIKE AUSTIN TEN YEARS AGO.
2:26:58PM WE ARE ABOUT TO HIT AN ENORMOUS WAVE BIGGER THAN WE HAVE
2:27:02PM EVER SEEN.
2:27:03PM THE ONLY WAY WE HAVE TO SURVIVE THAT IS BUY AS MUCH LAND AS
2:27:07PM WE CAN AND PUT IN A LAND TRUST.
2:27:09PM HERE SHE COMES.
2:27:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND THEN I'LL GO TO
2:27:12PM MS. TRAVIS.
2:27:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO KIND OF THINK
2:27:21PM ABOUT PAUSING, BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION A
2:27:25PM COMMUNITY THAT'S BEGGING FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD AS QUICKLY
2:27:28PM AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT'S TAMPA HEIGHTS, WHO IS ASKING TO KEEP
2:27:32PM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:27:34PM THEY LOVE THE DIVERSITY OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY ARE
2:27:37PM ABSOLUTELY LOSING THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE PLACES FOR
2:27:39PM THEIR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO STAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:27:43PM SO FOR EVERY TIME PEOPLE SAY, WELL, LET'S SLOW DOWN, I CAN
2:27:48PM TELL YOU, TAMPA HEIGHTS FROM THE PEOPLE I SPEAK TO THERE
2:27:51PM WOULD LOVE TO BE ANY TYPE OF TEST CASE.
2:27:54PM IF WE HAVE TO CHOOSE SOMEPLACE, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND, I
2:27:59PM THINK IT'S JUST GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY HARD TO GET THE
2:28:02PM ENTIRE CITY ON BOARD WITH ONE PARTICULAR TYPE OF HOUSING.
2:28:10PM WE HAVE SO MUCH TO DO.
2:28:11PM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE -- I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE'S DESIRE
2:28:14PM FOR TIME, BUT IT TAKES A REALLY LONG TIME TO GET SOMETHING
2:28:21PM LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN.
2:28:22PM SO IT'S NOT OVERNIGHT.
2:28:25PM AND I DON'T WANT FOUR YEARS TO PASS AND TO US TO NOT HAVE
2:28:30PM DONE ANYTHING AND TO JUST POSSIBLY ACQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE
2:28:33PM LAND WITHOUT REALLY THINKING ABOUT THE DENSITY WE NEED AND
2:28:37PM HOW DO WE KEEP THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE WHOLE AND
2:28:42PM REIMAGINE THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THE
2:28:45PM CITY AS A WHOLE.
2:28:47PM THIS IS A MUCH BROADER DISCUSSION, BUT I'M JUST CONCERNED
2:28:50PM WHEN I HEAR PAUSE.
2:28:57PM >> I CAN SPEAK TO THE TAMPA HEIGHTS COMMENT.
2:29:02PM THERE ARE STILL TWO PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENTS FROM
2:29:06PM MAYBE TWO YEARS AT THIS POINT AGO THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE
2:29:09PM PROCESS, BOTH OF WHICH WE'RE SEEKING TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS.
2:29:13PM THOSE APPLICANTS WERE SEEKING TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO
2:29:15PM INCLUDE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY AREA AS WELL AS TAMPA HEIGHTS.
2:29:19PM BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE PRIVATELY SPONSORED.
2:29:22PM SO THEY WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU.
2:29:24PM SO WE WILL BE TAKING A LOOK AT THE CRITERIA AND THE
2:29:29PM SUGGESTIONS THAT COME OUT OF THAT PROCESS AND PERHAPS THAT
2:29:31PM CAN OFFER SOME EXAMPLE FOR WHAT THE CITYWIDE CHANGES SHOULD
2:29:34PM LOOK LIKE.
2:29:36PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MS. TRAVIS.
2:29:38PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
2:29:41PM NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
2:29:44PM OPPORTUNITY.
2:29:44PM BEEN LISTENING TO THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION, AND THE ONE THING
2:29:48PM THAT IS FOR CERTAIN IS THAT THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET TO OUR
2:29:51PM HOUSING CRISIS.
2:29:53PM IT'S JUST NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH.
2:29:57PM TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT EARLIER FROM AN ECONOMIC
2:30:02PM STANDPOINT, IF WE DON'T GET A HANDLE ON OUR HOUSING
2:30:05PM SITUATION, WE'RE GOING TO BE TURNING COMPANIES AWAY AND
2:30:11PM PRETTY MUCH STIFLE ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY.
2:30:12PM SO THE TIME IS NOW FOR US TO DO THIS.
2:30:15PM RELATED TO THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, THERE ARE SOME
2:30:19PM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS FOR THEIR
2:30:24PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND THERE ARE OTHERS THAT DESPERATELY WANT
2:30:26PM THIS.
2:30:26PM WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT WHEN WE COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER, AT
2:30:30PM THE SEPTEMBER WORKSHOP IS TO ALLOW US TO PRESENT TO YOU A
2:30:35PM PATH FORWARD FOR THOSE AREAS THAT DO WANT IT.
2:30:38PM AND IF THERE'S MORE INTENTIONAL CONVERSATIONS FOR THE AREAS
2:30:41PM THAT DO NOT, PERHAPS WE CAN CARVE THOSE AREAS OUT.
2:30:46PM BUT TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT, ANOTHER POINT THAT HE
2:30:51PM MADE EARLIER IS THAT THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, WE DON'T
2:30:54PM ANTICIPATE THAT IT'S GOING TO SOLVE OUR CHALLENGES JUST ONE
2:30:58PM SMALL LITTLE NUGGET THAT WILL HELP IN THE OVERALL NEED FOR
2:31:04PM ADDITIONAL DENSITY.
2:31:07PM THERE IS A GREATER EVALUATION WE NEED TO DO.
2:31:09PM WE'RE DOING THAT WITH OUR HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND SOME
2:31:12PM OTHER INITIATIVES THAT WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK TO YOU RELATED
2:31:15PM TO HOUSING AND NOT JUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT HOUSING IN
2:31:19PM GENERAL.
2:31:20PM WE HAVE A SUPPLY ISSUE AND WE'RE GROWING AT A PACE THAT IS
2:31:25PM NOT SUSTAINABLE IF WE DON'T TRY TO INCREASE DENSITY AND USE
2:31:30PM ALL THESE DIFFERENT TOOLS FOR THAT.
2:31:31PM SO THERE'S NO SILVER BULLET, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT YOU
2:31:37PM CAREFULLY CONSIDER IN SEPTEMBER MOVING FORWARD WITH THE
2:31:39PM AREAS THAT DO WANT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND CARVE OUT
2:31:43PM THE AREAS THAT HAVE VOICED THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR
2:31:47PM DISPLEASURE WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH SUCH A POLICY CHANGE.
2:31:51PM SO THANKS.
2:31:55PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
2:31:56PM THANK YOU BOTH.
2:31:59PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:32:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
2:32:05PM WHAT MR. CARLSON SAID THAT THE DWELLING UNITS WOULD BE MORE
2:32:10PM LIKELY A -- 600-SQUARE-FOOT, 800-SQUARE-FOOT, BEHIND ANOTHER
2:32:16PM HOUSE.
2:32:18PM I DON'T THINK THAT IS AN ANSWER TO ANYTHING.
2:32:20PM I THINK THAT IS THE START OF SOMETHING BECAUSE WHAT I SEE IN
2:32:23PM A CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD AND I'M NOT GOING TO MENTION IT.
2:32:26PM I DON'T SEE IT HERE.
2:32:27PM I GUESS YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY 13, HOW MANY LEGAL
2:32:31PM NONCONFORMING STRUCTURES SHOULD BE CONVERTED TO THIS USE,
2:32:34PM AND THEN THERE'S 15, WHAT IS THE ACCESSORY DWELLINGS THAT
2:32:38PM ARE BEING RENTED NOW WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, I COULD
2:32:42PM TELL YOU THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF THEM, MAYBE THOUSANDS OF
2:32:46PM THEM.
2:32:47PM I CAN NAME YOU 121 BECAUSE I'VE GOT THE MAP FROM THE PRIOR
2:32:52PM ADMINISTRATION.
2:32:54PM I CAN TELL YOU THAT NONE OF THESE ARE PAYING TAXES TO WHAT
2:32:57PM THEY SHOULD BE.
2:32:58PM THEY ARE RENTAL UNITS, SOME WITH A RESIDENT BEING THERE AND
2:33:01PM SOME WITH NO RESIDENT BEING THERE.
2:33:03PM AND THEY HAVE GOT THEM LABELED APARTMENT A, B, C AND D IN
2:33:07PM ONE HOUSE.
2:33:08PM AND THEY GOT THEM EVERYWHERE IN THAT AREA.
2:33:11PM SO WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT IT?
2:33:13PM NOTHING.
2:33:15PM WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT IT?
2:33:16PM SOMETHING, BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THINKING HOW THEY
2:33:19PM THINK.
2:33:19PM THE FIRST THING THEY DO IS PUT A FENCE AROUND THE PROPERTY
2:33:22PM AND THEN THEY PUT, WHAT, SOLAR.
2:33:24PM SO THE ELECTRIC BILL IS DOWN.
2:33:26PM THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN TELL WHAT IT IS IS BY THE WATER METER,
2:33:31PM HOW MUCH WATER THEY USE.
2:33:32PM AND THESE ARE THINGS GOING ON.
2:33:33PM WHEN YOU DRIVE BY, WHERE IT SAYS NO PARKING ON THE
2:33:37PM RIGHT-OF-WAY, YOU SEE FIVE CARS PARKED DIAGONALLY ACROSS.
2:33:41PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE YARD, YOU CAN HARDLY SEE ANY GRASS OR
2:33:45PM DIRT BECAUSE THEY HAVE FIVE OR SIX CARS IN FRONT OF THE
2:33:48PM HOUSE.
2:33:48PM I'M NOT BLAMING THEM.
2:33:51PM WE NEVER CHECKED ON THIS FROM THE BEGINNING, WAY BACK.
2:33:55PM NOT THIS ADMINISTRATION OR OTHER ADMINISTRATIONS, WAY BACK.
2:33:58PM THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR LONG, LONG TIME.
2:34:02PM AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE STILL ALIVE.
2:34:04PM I HAVE TWO OR THREE FRIENDS OF MINE THAT WERE ACQUAINTANCES
2:34:08PM ANYWAY, AND THEY WERE PAYING, WHEN HE WENT TO PAY BY CHECK,
2:34:11PM SAID, NO, NO, YOU HAVE TO PAY BY CASH SO THERE'S NO EVIDENCE
2:34:15PM OF NOTHING.
2:34:16PM SO THEY ARE NOT AS NAIVE AS WE THINK THEY ARE.
2:34:19PM THEY ARE NOT AS OPEN-HEARTED AS WE THINK THEY ARE.
2:34:22PM MAYBE SOME ARE BUT THE MAJORITY ARE NOT.
2:34:25PM IT IS INCOME WITHOUT TAXATION.
2:34:26PM WITHOUT PAYING HIGHER PROPERTY TAXES AND THEY DON'T REPORT
2:34:30PM THE PROPERTY INCOME THEY GET TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
2:34:33PM SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE HURTING ESPECIALLY THE
2:34:36PM SCHOOL SYSTEM AND OTHERS, INCLUDING OURSELVES.
2:34:40PM AND WHEN YOU SEE, TALK ABOUT THE RENTAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE
2:34:45PM AirBnBs, SEE A HOUSE, TWO OR THREE HOUSES CLOSE TO WHERE
2:34:49PM I LIVE AND YOU SEE NO ONE THERE FOR WEEKS.
2:34:52PM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'LL SEE TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE AND
2:34:57PM TWO CARS ON THE SIDEWALK BLOCKING THE SIDEWALK.
2:35:01PM AND IN TWO DAYS ARE GONE OR THREE DAYS ARE GONE OR FIVE DAYS
2:35:04PM ARE GONE.
2:35:05PM WHEN COMES BACK, THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT CARS.
2:35:08PM EITHER THEY OWN A CAR DEALERSHIP OR THEY ARE RENTING OUT THE
2:35:11PM PROPERTY AS AirBnBs.
2:35:13PM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN GET A LIST OF ALL THE AirBnBs
2:35:16PM IN TAMPA.
2:35:18PM MORE THAN LIKELY YOU DO HAVE ONE.
2:35:20PM YOU DON'T HAVE ONE.
2:35:21PM I CAN TELL BY THE LOOK ON YOUR FACE.
2:35:24PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO DO THAT THROUGH THE
2:35:26PM PROPERTY APPRAISER, BUT BASED UPON THE AGREEMENTS THAT ARE
2:35:29PM IN PLACE BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY APPRAISER AND AirBnB, VRBO,
2:35:36PM WHOEVER, THAT INFORMATION IS SCRUBBED.
2:35:40PM THERE'S A NUMBER, AN IDENTIFIER, BUT WE DON'T GET A LIST OF
2:35:43PM ADDRESSES, A LIST OF NAMES.
2:35:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN EASY THING TO DO,
2:35:48PM BUT WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
2:35:50PM WE HAVE TO SEND A LETTER OUT TO SOMEBODY, IS THIS A RENTAL
2:35:53PM PROPERTY?
2:35:54PM AT LEAST START WITH THAT.
2:35:55PM I'M NOT A LAWYER.
2:35:56PM THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT TO SEND OUT.
2:36:00PM IF YOU DON'T RETURN IT, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG.
2:36:03PM AND IF YOU DO RETURN IT, MAYBE YOU CAN SAY MY WHOLE FAMILY
2:36:07PM IS LIVING HERE.
2:36:08PM I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE VERIFYING THE THINGS.
2:36:12PM IT'S NOT EASY.
2:36:13PM AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE VERIFICATION THAT IT IS A
2:36:16PM COUSIN UNLESS YOU DO ONE OF THEM SEARCHES ON THE INTERNET
2:36:20PM AND YOU CAN FIND OUT THE FAMILY TREE, I GUESS.
2:36:22PM THAT IS THE ONLY WAY OF FINDING THAT OUT.
2:36:24PM I'M NOT AGAINST PEOPLE HELPING PEOPLE, BUT YOU CAN ONLY DO
2:36:28PM FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE THEY ARE HURTING THE
2:36:31PM WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT ONLY IN THE LOOKS OF IT BECAUSE THEY
2:36:33PM DON'T KEEP MAINTENANCE ON IT TOO MUCH, BUT THE HOUSES I'M
2:36:36PM TALKING ABOUT ARE BRAND-NEW OR SOME HOUSES SPENT TWO AND
2:36:40PM THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND ON.
2:36:41PM GUARANTEED THEY HAVE BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT IT COSTS TO DO
2:36:44PM THINGS.
2:36:44PM IT'S THERE AND THERE'S NOT ONE.
2:36:47PM THERE'S MANY OF THEM.
2:36:48PM ANYTIME YOU OR ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO TAKE A RIDE WITH ME,
2:36:51PM ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT, YOU'RE WELCOME AND I'LL SHOW YOU.
2:36:54PM AND YOU CAN PICK THE STREET AND YOU CAN NAME THEM.
2:36:57PM YOU CAN SEE THEM YOURSELF.
2:36:59PM I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO POINT THEM OUT TO YOU.
2:37:01PM YOU'LL NOTICE THEM RIGHT AWAY.
2:37:05PM ANY COUNCIL MEMBER, I'LL TELL YOU WHERE TO GO.
2:37:08PM YOU CAN FIND WHAT YOU WANT.
2:37:10PM THAT WAY I'M NOT VIOLATING THE LAW.
2:37:12PM HAVING A HUMOROUS TIME A LITTLE BIT BUT THAT'S HOW YOU FIND
2:37:15PM THINGS OUT.
2:37:16PM YOU DON'T FIND THINGS OUT BY DRIVING HOME THE SAME WAY EVERY
2:37:18PM DAY.
2:37:19PM DRIVE HOME A DIFFERENT WAY EVERY DAY AND YOUR EYES OPEN UP A
2:37:25PM LITTLE MORE BECAUSE YOU SEE THINGS HAPPENING.
2:37:27PM I WISH YOU THE BEST.
2:37:29PM BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER, YOU'LL BE WEIGHING 20 POUNDS LESS
2:37:32PM CHASING ALL THESE THINGS AROUND.
2:37:34PM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
2:37:35PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:37:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: AGENDA ITEM 8, FILE NUMBER E2023-8 CHAPTER
2:37:46PM 27.
2:37:46PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: STEPHEN BENSON, CITY PLANNING.
2:37:49PM THIS IS A TRANSMITTAL REQUEST.
2:37:52PM SO WE BROUGHT FORWARD NINE AMENDMENTS FOR THE JANUARY 2023
2:37:59PM CYCLE OF TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
2:38:01PM THAT CAME BEFORE YOU IN MARCH.
2:38:04PM AND YOU ASKED US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
2:38:07PM YOU ALSO ASKED US TO DO A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN WE HAD DONE
2:38:12PM IN THE PRIOR CYCLE IN TERMS OF PACKING ON SO MANY AMENDMENTS
2:38:16PM TO JUST ONE MEETING.
2:38:18PM WE SCHEDULED THREE HEARINGS OR THREE MEETINGS IN MARCH AND
2:38:23PM BROKE THEM UP BY AMENDMENT.
2:38:24PM THE FIRST MEETING WAS HELD ON MARCH 20th, AND THAT ONE WAS
2:38:29PM JUST FOCUSED ON THE REQUEST FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE DESIGN
2:38:34PM EXCEPTION CRITERIA.
2:38:35PM THERE WAS AN EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AT THE MARCH
2:38:39PM MEETING ABOUT WHAT SHOULD BE CHANGED.
2:38:41PM SHOULD IT BE THE TYPES OF DESIGN EXCEPTIONS TO BE CHANGED OR
2:38:44PM SHOULD IT BE THE PROCESS FOR NOTICE?
2:38:46PM BASED UPON THE CONVERSATION THAT OCCURRED AT THIS MEETING,
2:38:50PM THERE WAS NOT CONSENSUS ON WHAT ACTUALLY TO NOTICE, BUT
2:38:54PM THERE WERE A LOT OF IDEAS ON CREATING NEW TYPES OF PUBLIC
2:38:56PM NOTICE.
2:38:57PM THERE WAS A PARALLEL AMENDMENT OR A PARALLEL MOTION, EXCUSE
2:39:02PM ME, TO LOOK AT MODIFICATIONS TO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE.
2:39:05PM I BELIEVE ABBYE FEELEY IS WORKING ON THAT ONE AND HER TEAM.
2:39:08PM SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IN SPEAKING WITH THE 22 INDIVIDUALS
2:39:14PM THAT ATTENDED THIS MEETING, WE BELIEVE THAT THE BEST COURSE
2:39:17PM OF ACTION IS TO SORT OF PACKAGE THOSE TOGETHER TO RUN
2:39:20PM CONCURRENTLY.
2:39:21PM I WILL BE REQUESTING A MOTION TO TIE THAT TO THE GOOD
2:39:26PM NEIGHBOR NOTICE MODIFICATION.
2:39:28PM OUT OF THAT CONVERSATION MIGHT BE A RECOMMENDATION ABOUT
2:39:31PM WHAT DESIGN EXCEPTIONS SHOULD BE NOTICED AND SHOULD NOT BE
2:39:35PM NOTICED.
2:39:35PM RIGHT NOW THERE IS ONE PROCESS FOR NOTICE AND THERE IS NOT
2:39:37PM CONSENSUS THAT THAT SHOULD BE DONE FOR EVERY SINGLE TYPE OF
2:39:41PM DE.
2:39:41PM THAT IS THE FIRST SORT OF REQUESTED ACTION THAT WE HAVE FOR
2:39:44PM THE SET.
2:39:45PM THE REMAINING NINE AMENDMENTS ARE READY FOR TRANSMITTAL.
2:39:50PM THE TEXT IS INCLUDED IN THE PACKET.
2:39:53PM WE HAVE ONE ADJUSTMENT TO THE LANGUAGE RELATED TO COURTYARDS
2:39:57PM THAT I'M HAPPY TO GO OVER HERE WITH YOU.
2:40:02PM THIS WAS ALSO A RESULT, I THINK, OF COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK'S
2:40:06PM COMMENTS ABOUT WANTING TO MAKE SURE THE LANGUAGE IS REALLY
2:40:08PM TIGHT AND IT CAN'T BE MISINTERPRETED AS TO WHAT A COURTYARD
2:40:12PM SHOULD OR SHOULDN'T BE.
2:40:13PM THIS IS THE ONE THAT I WILL GO OVER AND THEN I'LL BE ASKING
2:40:18PM TO TRANSMIT THESE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MOVE FORWARD
2:40:21PM FOR THE ADOPTION PROCESS.
2:40:22PM BEFORE I GO OVER THIS, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT'S
2:40:26PM LEFT TO DISCUSS?
2:40:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:40:34PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: ERIC COTTON IS ON THE LINE, I BELIEVE, TO
2:40:37PM ANSWER QUESTIONS.
2:40:38PM THIS IS THE REVISED LANGUAGE FOR THE COURTYARD.
2:40:40PM THE PROPOSED DEFINITION -- A REMINDER ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF
2:40:42PM THE AMENDMENT.
2:40:43PM SOME SECTIONS OF THE CODE, MAINLY THE DESIGN CRITERIA FOR
2:40:47PM CERTAIN TYPES OF USES, THEY INVOKE THE TERM COURTYARD BUT
2:40:51PM THE WORD IS NOT DEFINED ANYWHERE.
2:40:52PM THIS IS OUR ATTEMPT AT DEFINING IT AND BRINGING IT IN LINE
2:40:57PM WITH THE DEFINITION THAT'S IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR
2:41:00PM COURTYARD.
2:41:00PM SO THIS IS A COURTYARD WOULD BE AN UNOCCUPIED SPACE, OTHER
2:41:05PM THAN A YARD, WHICH IS OPEN TO THE SKY, ON THE SAME ZONING
2:41:09PM LOT WITH A BUILDING OR GROUP OF BUILDINGS, AND WHICH IS
2:41:13PM BOUNDED ON AT LEAST TWO SIDES BY A BUILDING, BUILDINGS OR
2:41:17PM WALLS.
2:41:17PM IT'S GOT TO BE BOUNDED ON AT LEAST TWO SIDES.
2:41:19PM HAS TO BE OPEN ABOVE, AND IT HAS TO BE ON THE SAME LOT AS
2:41:24PM THE BUILDING THAT'S BEING REZONED.
2:41:26PM IT CAN'T BE SHARED BY MULTIPLE LOTS.
2:41:30PM THE PURPOSE OF THE COURTYARD, THE INTENT IS THAT IT SHOULD
2:41:33PM BE DESIGNED EXCLUSIVELY FOR PEDESTRIAN USE, NOT FOR MOTOR
2:41:37PM VEHICLE USE, AND IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE SHARED BETWEEN
2:41:40PM OCCUPANTS.
2:41:41PM SOMETIMES WHEN PROJECTS COME IN, IT'S PROPOSED THAT THE
2:41:44PM COURTYARD IS FENCED OFF AS LONG AS IT STILL FUNCTIONS AS A
2:41:48PM COURTYARD, STAFF DOES NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
2:41:51PM SOMETIMES THEY WANT IT TO BE OPEN AND SHARED.
2:41:53PM THAT'S FINE, TOO.
2:41:54PM AND CLARIFYING THAT A COURTYARD MAY ALSO BE REFERRED TO AS
2:41:57PM AN INTERIOR COURT BECAUSE THAT LANGUAGE IS USED IN THE CODE
2:42:00PM AS WELL.
2:42:00PM BUT THE MAIN CHANGE THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE WAS DESIGNED
2:42:03PM EXCLUSIVELY FOR USE BY PEDESTRIANS, NOT FOR MOTOR VEHICLES
2:42:07PM TO MAKE IT CLEAR YOU CAN'T BRING US A PROJECT WITH A BIG
2:42:10PM DRIVEWAY AND CALL THAT A COURTYARD.
2:42:12PM WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THAT.
2:42:14PM THIS IS THE FINAL PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR THE COURTYARD.
2:42:17PM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE.
2:42:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:42:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I.T. BRING THAT UP AGAIN, PLEASE?
2:42:24PM IT'S NOT YOU.
2:42:26PM THERE WE GO.
2:42:27PM I APPRECIATE THE EXCLUSIVE USE FOR PEDESTRIANS ADDED THERE.
2:42:39PM THIS IS SILLY, BUT IT'S AN OXFORD COMMA THING, BUILDING,
2:42:44PM BUILDINGS OR WALLS.
2:42:45PM DO WE NOT ADD A SECOND COMMA?
2:42:48PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE CAN ADD THE COMMA.
2:42:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AS AN EDITOR, I'M SO PRO-OXFORD COMMA TO BE
2:43:00PM VERY SPECIFIC.
2:43:01PM YOU SAID WHICH IS OPEN TO THE SKY AND ON THE SAME ZONING LOT
2:43:04PM WITH A BUILDING OR GROUP OF BUILDINGS.
2:43:06PM IT HAS A COMMA THERE INSTEAD OF AND.
2:43:08PM DID YOU MEAN TO SAY AND OR WAS THAT ANOTHER?
2:43:11PM ON THE FIRST LINE, WHEN YOU READ IT YOU SAID WHICH IS OPEN
2:43:18PM TO THE SKY AND ON THE SAME ZONING LOT WITH A BUILDING OR
2:43:20PM GROUP OF BUILDINGS.
2:43:23PM IF -- DID YOU MEAN AND OR JUST TO HAVE A SEPARATE?
2:43:28PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE OVERLY VERBOSE.
2:43:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
2:43:35PM IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.
2:43:37PM I REALLY DO APPRECIATE TAKING OUT THE IDEA THAT A COURTYARD
2:43:41PM IS FOR CARS.
2:43:43PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:43:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS A CLEAR EXAMPLE, IF WE DON'T PUT
2:43:48PM SOMETHING IN THE BOOKS THAT YOU CAN CHECK THIS OUT, IT WON'T
2:43:51PM BE A COURTYARD FOR LONG.
2:43:53PM IT WILL BE SOMETHING ELSE, AS YOU WELL KNOW.
2:43:56PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIXING THINGS AND DOING THINGS, BUT IF
2:43:59PM YOU HAVE A BUILDING WITHOUT A WALL, WITHOUT A ROOF, WALLS
2:44:03PM TWO SIDES, GO TWO, THREE YEARS, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
2:44:07PM IT WILL HAVE A ROOF, A DOOR AND A LOCK.
2:44:09PM AND IT WILL HAVE PEOPLE LIVING IN IT.
2:44:14PM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE CREATING
2:44:16PM ANOTHER THING, WHICH IS FINE WITH ME, AS LONG AS IT'S
2:44:19PM CHECKED OUT ON A BASIS OF EVERY TWO YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE
2:44:23PM THAT.
2:44:24PM IF THEY DO SOMETHING, IT'S GOT TO BE DOCUMENTED AT THE TIME
2:44:27PM YOU DO IT SO WHEN THE PAPERS GO INTO THE COURTHOUSE IT'S ON
2:44:30PM THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WHAT ONLY THEY CAN DO.
2:44:33PM THAT'S IT.
2:44:33PM ONLY WAY YOU SOLVE IT.
2:44:35PM THE REST IS FAIRYLAND LIKE DISNEYLAND BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO
2:44:39PM IT.
2:44:40PM I'M TRYING TO MAKE FUN OF IT, BECAUSE MAKING FUN OF THE
2:44:43PM SYSTEM.
2:44:43PM IT'S NOT YOU, THE CITY, MAYOR OR US.
2:44:45PM IT IS THE SYSTEM THAT HAS TO BE CHANGED.
2:44:48PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AGAIN.
2:44:50PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:44:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF NO ONE ELSE, I MOVE TO ASK STAFF TO
2:44:58PM TRANSMIT THE FINAL PROPOSED LANGUAGE FOR NINE TEXT
2:45:02PM AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE TO THE PLANNING
2:45:04PM COMMISSION.
2:45:07PM >> SECOND.
2:45:09PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MR. SHELBY.
2:45:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THAT INCLUDE THE COMMA THAT YOU HAD
2:45:12PM SUGGESTED?
2:45:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST LIKE TO POINT THAT OUT.
2:45:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT EVEN WHEN IT
2:45:20PM COMES DOWN TO OUR INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARTER, A COMMA
2:45:23PM DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
2:45:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT REALLY DOES.
2:45:26PM IT DOES.
2:45:26PM THAT'S WHY I ASKED.
2:45:28PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN
2:45:29PM HURTAK.
2:45:29PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:45:31PM ANY FINAL DISCUSSIONS?
2:45:33PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:45:35PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:45:36PM MOTION PASSES.
2:45:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO CONTINUE -- I MOVE TO CONTINUE THE
2:45:42PM PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT RELATED TO PUBLIC NOTICE FOR THE
2:45:45PM DESIGN EXCEPTION TO THE JUNE 22, 2023, CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP
2:45:50PM TO BE HEARD ALONG WITH FILE NUMBER CM 23-80761 MODIFICATIONS
2:45:58PM TO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE.
2:46:00PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:46:02PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:46:04PM ANY FINAL DISCUSSIONS?
2:46:05PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:46:07PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:46:08PM MOTION CARRIES.
2:46:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: -- MOTION TO TRANSMIT IT.
2:46:21PM IT'S WITH REGARD TO THE CONTINUANCE IN A LOCAL STATE OF
2:46:26PM EMERGENCY, QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
2:46:28PM I HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH THEM IN TERMS OF PRACTICALITY AND
2:46:31PM IMPLEMENTATION.
2:46:32PM BUT I'LL BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THIS AND WORK IT THROUGH AS IT
2:46:35PM GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS.
2:46:36PM I WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT IT WAS SOMETHING
2:46:39PM THAT I HAD A CONCERN ABOUT.
2:46:41PM BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT.
2:46:44PM THANK YOU.
2:46:45PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:46:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ALTHOUGH I
2:46:50PM WOULD LOVE TO GO ON THAT NIGHTTIME TOUR WITH YOU, WE CAN'T
2:46:54PM BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE.
2:46:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE'S GOING TO FOLLOW YOU IN THE CAR AND
2:46:57PM GIVE DIRECTIONS.
2:46:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN'T DO THAT EITHER.
2:47:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL GET YOU A DRIVER.
2:47:05PM HOW IS THAT?
2:47:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT SEEMS TO HAVE A
2:47:08PM LOT OF STAFF RIGHT NOW.
2:47:10PM MAYBE SOMEBODY COULD FOLLOW YOU WITH A VIDEO CAMERA AND EDIT
2:47:15PM A VIDEO TO EDUCATE US ALL ON ILLEGAL STRUCTURES.
2:47:19PM I THINK THAT WOULD BE A WORTHWHILE ENDEAVOR.
2:47:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S THERE.
2:47:32PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: INFORMATION AND REPORTS.
2:47:34PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:47:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T HAVE ANY REPORTS.
2:47:37PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I APOLOGIZE.
2:47:39PM EVERYBODY IS THROWING THEIR SHEETS OF PAPER AWAY.
2:47:41PM I WAS JUST WONDERING.
2:47:43PM WE NEED TO CONTINUE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9.
2:47:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE --
2:47:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: FILE NUMBER E 2022-8, CHAPTER 27.
2:47:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CONTINUE TO JUNE 22, 2023.
2:47:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN
2:47:56PM MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:47:57PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:48:00PM IS THERE ANY OPPOSED?
2:48:00PM MOTION CARRIES.
2:48:02PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, INFORMATION AND REPORTS?
2:48:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE, SIR.
2:48:04PM I JUST WANT TO SAY I ENJOYED WORKING WITH THOSE THAT ARE
2:48:07PM GOING TO SOMEHOW NOT BE HERE AFTER THIS THURSDAY MEETING.
2:48:12PM I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENTS AND YOUR WORK FOR THE LAST
2:48:15PM FOUR YEARS AND MAKING THE CITY BETTER THAN WHEN YOU GOT
2:48:19PM HERE.
2:48:21PM LOOKING FORWARD, IT'S SOMETHING WE'LL CHANGE AND THERE IS
2:48:24PM ONE THING ABOUT WINNING AND ONE THING ABOUT NOT WINNING,
2:48:27PM YOU'RE STILL YOURSELF AND STILL CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO
2:48:30PM DO AS LONG AS YOU DO IT WITHIN THE REALMS OF THE POSSIBILITY
2:48:34PM OF THE FACTS BEFORE YOU.
2:48:36PM HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT FOR A POLITICAL SPEECH, MR. GUDES?
2:48:38PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:48:39PM I APPRECIATE IT.
2:48:40PM REALLY DO, GENTLEMEN.
2:48:41PM TAKE CARE.
2:48:41PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:48:42PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: WELL, LET ME START WITH MR. SHELBY, THANK
2:48:45PM YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE THESE FOUR YEARS FOR ME, GIVE ME
2:48:50PM SOME KNOWLEDGE AND GUIDANCE IN SOME AREAS OF YOUR EXPERTISE.
2:48:55PM YOU'LL ALWAYS BE THE COACH, MARTY.
2:48:56PM ALWAYS BE THE COACH.
2:48:57PM YOU ARE THE LEADER OF THIS DAIS.
2:48:59PM YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINION TO THE CHAIRMAN
2:49:03PM AND BE ABLE TO TELL COUNCIL MEMBERS WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S
2:49:06PM WRONG REGARDLESS.
2:49:06PM THAT'S YOUR JOB AS THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
2:49:08PM IT'S TO GIVE US YOUR OPINION, YOUR LEGAL OPINION.
2:49:12PM LEAVE YOU WITH THAT.
2:49:14PM BILL, LET ME SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
2:49:17PM I WANT TO SAY THAT IN THE BEGINNING, PEOPLE TRY TO MAKE YOU
2:49:20PM OUT TO BE THE BAD GUY OF EAST TAMPA AND WANTED ME TO TURN A
2:49:26PM DIFFERENT WAY TO YOU.
2:49:27PM I CAN SAY YOU TURNED OUT TO BE A FRIEND.
2:49:29PM I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT.
2:49:30PM YOU TURNED OUT TO BE A FRIEND IN TIMES THAT A PERSON NEEDED
2:49:34PM A FRIEND.
2:49:35PM SOMETIMES I CAN SPEAK ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU COULDN'T.
2:49:40PM CERTAIN THINGS YOU SPOKE ON THAT I COULDN'T.
2:49:42PM I APPRECIATE YOU FOR SPEAKING OUT FOR TRUTH.
2:49:44PM YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT WITH ANYTHING.
2:49:47PM TRUTH WILL ALWAYS SET YOU FREE AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE
2:49:51PM FAITH.
2:49:51PM YOU BELIEVE IN A MAN ABOVE AND YOU DO THE RIGHT THINGS, THEY
2:49:57PM ALWAYS HAPPEN.
2:49:58PM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING THAT FRIEND IN THE END
2:50:01PM BECAUSE I NEEDED A FRIEND.
2:50:02PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
2:50:03PM MR. VIERA, LET ME SAY THANK YOU TO YOU.
2:50:07PM WHEN I FIRST RAN A CAMPAIGN, I LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU.
2:50:10PM AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
2:50:13PM IN THE END, I WAS ANGRY WITH YOU FOR WHAT I FELT YOU DID.
2:50:17PM AGAIN, MY HEART AND CONSCIENCE IS CLEAR, SIR.
2:50:20PM I WANT YOU TO MAKE THIS WHAT I CALL A LESSON FOR YOU
2:50:24PM POSSIBLY IN THE END, SIR, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL LEARNED
2:50:27PM SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WE CAN ALL LEARN
2:50:29PM SOMETHING.
2:50:29PM AGAIN, I LEAVE WITH NO HARD FEELINGS, NO ILL WILL.
2:50:33PM I SAY GOOD LUCK TO YOU ON YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS AS WELL,
2:50:36PM SIR.
2:50:38PM GUIDO, YOU ARE THE SOFT-SPOKEN ONE, THE ONE WHO WANTS TO
2:50:43PM MAKE PEACE.
2:50:43PM IT'S GOOD TO MAKE PEACE, MY FRIEND.
2:50:45PM BUT SOMETIMES YOU'VE GOT TO BE A LION TO THE DEN.
2:50:49PM YOU'VE GOT THE ROAR.
2:50:50PM IF YOU EVER WANT TO BE THE MAYOR OF THE CITY AND REACH
2:50:53PM HIGHER, YOU HAVE TO SHOW PEOPLE SOMETIMES YOU CAN BE THAT
2:50:56PM LION.
2:50:57PM YOU WON'T GO ALONG TO GET ALONG.
2:50:59PM YOU'RE STILL YOUNG.
2:51:00PM YOU'RE MAKING YOUR ROUNDS.
2:51:02PM BUT I APPRECIATE YOU FOR BEING A FRIEND, TOO.
2:51:04PM I APPRECIATE YOU FOR ALWAYS COMING BY, WE'RE OUT THERE, SO I
2:51:08PM DO APPRECIATE YOU.
2:51:10PM GOOD LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS AS WELL, MY
2:51:13PM FRIEND.
2:51:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
2:51:14PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MR. CITRO, WE BECAME FRIENDS EARLY.
2:51:18PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED, BUT YOU KNOW I NEVER WILL LEAVE
2:51:22PM A PLACE ANGRY OR LEAVE A PERSON TO FEEL I'M ANGRY WITH THEM.
2:51:26PM I'M NOT ANGRY WITH YOU, SIR.
2:51:29PM WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT.
2:51:30PM WHATEVER YOU DO IN YOUR FUTURE ENDEAVORS, HOPE YOU ARE THE
2:51:32PM BEST AS WELL.
2:51:33PM I THINK WE ALL LEARNED SOMETHING BEING HERE.
2:51:35PM NOTHING IS EVER PROMISED OR GIVEN.
2:51:37PM YOU HAVE TO EARN EVERYTHING AT THE END OF THE DAY.
2:51:39PM SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD TIMES AND THE BAD
2:51:44PM TIMES.
2:51:45PM I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK IN EVERYTHING YOU DO.
2:51:47PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: YOU AS WELL.
2:51:48PM >>ORLANDO GUDES: MY FRIEND, THE OTHER HELL-RAISER OF THE
2:51:53PM COUNCIL.
2:51:54PM YOU FOUGHT A HELL OF A FIGHT, ENDURED A LOT, YOU CAME IN,
2:51:59PM PEOPLE THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE ONE WAY BUT YOU TURNED OUT TO BE
2:52:04PM THAT REAL LIONESS.
2:52:06PM YOU GAVE THEM HELL.
2:52:08PM YOU GAVE EVERYBODY HELL.
2:52:10PM YOU SHOWED PEOPLE YOU ARE NOT AFRAID TO GET IN THE FIGHT.
2:52:13PM AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
2:52:15PM PEOPLE WANT PEOPLE WHO WILL GET INTO THE FIGHT WITH THEM, BE
2:52:18PM IT WRONG, BAD, INDIFFERENT, BUT HAVE COURAGE.
2:52:22PM NEVER BE A COWARD AND YOU SHOWED ME YOU WERE NOT A COWARD
2:52:26PM WHEN YOU FIRST CAME TO THIS COUNCIL, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN A
2:52:29PM FRIEND SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
2:52:31PM I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOU.
2:52:32PM I KNOW ONE DAY YOU'LL PROBABLY RUN THIS COUNCIL AS A
2:52:35PM CHAIRWOMAN, AS THE CHAIRMAN.
2:52:38PM I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ON TV RUNNING THE COUNCIL.
2:52:42PM GOD BLESS YOU IN THAT ENDEAVORS.
2:52:44PM TO THE OLD MAN, THE GUY WHO KNOWS IT ALL, SEEN IT ALL,
2:52:49PM QUIET, BUT HAS THAT EYE TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, NOT -- GAVE
2:52:55PM ME GOOD ADVICE WHILE I WAS HERE AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
2:52:59PM NEVER TAKE IT FOR GRANTED.
2:53:01PM AGAIN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE MORE WISDOM, MORE KNOWLEDGE TO
2:53:06PM THOSE WHO COME.
2:53:07PM YOU DID THAT FOR ME.
2:53:09PM FIRST THING YOU SAID, I REMEMBER WHAT YOU TELL ME.
2:53:12PM IT'S TRUE.
2:53:12PM YOU NEVER BE MAD WITH SOMEBODY'S VOTE.
2:53:18PM NEVER BE MAD WITH SOMEBODY'S VOTE.
2:53:21PM AND ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T LOSE.
2:53:24PM YOU JUST DIDN'T GET ENOUGH VOTES.
2:53:26PM IT'S TRUE.
2:53:31PM BUT WHAT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU ALL, THE CLERKS,
2:53:40PM MS. TANYA, WHEN I NEEDED A PERSON SHE WAS THERE.
2:53:42PM THANK YOU ALL.
2:53:44PM AMARE.
2:53:45PM TO THE STAFF, I DIDN'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH SOME OF THE STAFF
2:53:50PM MEMBERS, BUT I ALWAYS RESPECTED THEM.
2:53:53PM I RESPECTED THE ADMINISTRATION AS WELL.
2:53:55PM I DIDN'T AGREE, BUT TO AGREE TO DISAGREE, WE CAN'T BE ANGRY
2:54:00PM WITH ONE ANOTHER.
2:54:01PM WE JUST HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION AND WE HAVE TO RESPECT
2:54:04PM THAT.
2:54:04PM I'M ALWAYS GOING TO RESPECT EVERYBODY AND RESPECT THE PLACE
2:54:07PM BUT I ALWAYS WILL HAVE MY OPINION.
2:54:09PM AGAIN, I SAY THANK YOU TO ALL.
2:54:11PM I'M GOING TO SIGN OFF TONIGHT AND START MY VACATION PLANS
2:54:15PM FOR EACH MONTH.
2:54:16PM GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
2:54:17PM I'LL START MY REAL RETIREMENT NOW.
2:54:19PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:54:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOW, IT'S HARD TO FOLLOW THAT.
2:54:24PM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN GUDES, FOR TAKING ME
2:54:30PM UNDER YOUR WING WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE AND REALLY, I MEAN, WE
2:54:34PM DEVELOPED A FRIENDSHIP ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
2:54:36PM WE SAT NEXT TO EACH OTHER THEN, TOO.
2:54:39PM DEVELOPED A FRIENDSHIP THERE AND JUST CONTINUED IT HERE.
2:54:41PM I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
2:54:42PM I'M GRATEFUL FOR COUNCILMAN CITRO AND HIS ABILITY TO SIT ON
2:54:48PM THAT SAME COMMISSION WITH ME, BUT I WOULD BE REMISS.
2:54:53PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN INTRODUCTION.
2:54:55PM WE HAVE A NEW GENTLEMAN WHO IS GOING TO BE, NEW OFFICER WHO
2:54:59PM WILL BE HELPING US OUT.
2:55:04PM >> MY PLEASURE TO SERVE YOU ALL.
2:55:06PM MY NAME IS FERDINAND BARBOSA.
2:55:13PM I'VE MET MOST OF YOU.
2:55:13PM I GO BY JUNIOR.
2:55:13PM BEEN WITH TPD FOR 23 YEARS.
2:55:16PM I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING YOU ALL AND PROTECTING YOU AND
2:55:20PM WORKING FOR YOU.
2:55:21PM I KNOW I HAVE HUGE SHOES TO FILL FROM THIS GENTLEMAN.
2:55:25PM THANK YOU.
2:55:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE.
2:55:29PM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I SAID HELLO BEFORE EVERYTHING.
2:55:35PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:55:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A COUPLE OF THINGS, COUNCIL MEMBER
2:55:41PM GUDES, I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU, SERVING WITH YOU.
2:55:45PM I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, SAY IT AGAIN.
2:55:46PM YOU ARE THE HARDEST WORKING CITY COUNCILMAN, WHO KNOWS,
2:55:51PM MAYBE WE'VE EVER HAD.
2:55:52PM YOU ARE OUT THERE DAY IN AND DAY OUT IN THE DISTRICT,
2:55:55PM FIGHTING THE GOOD FIGHT, LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE.
2:55:57PM WE MAY OR MAY NOT ALWAYS AGREE, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
2:56:00PM YOU DID THE JOB YOU WERE ELECTED TO DO AND I THINK YOU DID
2:56:04PM IT BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
2:56:05PM YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF THAT AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF
2:56:08PM PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY PROUD OF YOU.
2:56:11PM WE'LL MISS YOU.
2:56:12PM WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.
2:56:13PM COUNCILMAN CITRO, HOW LONG HAVE WE KNOWN EACH OTHER?
2:56:16PM SINCE I WAS BORN?
2:56:18PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: I THINK I GAVE YOU ONE OF YOUR FIRST
2:56:20PM HAIRCUTS.
2:56:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY GRANDMOTHER GAVE ME THE FIRST HAIR
2:56:23PM CUT.
2:56:23PM YOU MAY HAVE BEEN THE SECOND ONE BECAUSE MY GRANDMOTHER USED
2:56:26PM TO CUT HAIR.
2:56:27PM MY FAMILY AND YOU GO BACK -- MY MOTHER KNEW YOU IN COLLEGE.
2:56:30PM THAT'S 1980, 1979, 1981.
2:56:35PM I APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR SERVICE AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE
2:56:38PM SEEN THE END OF EITHER ONE OF YOU.
2:56:41PM YOU'RE VERY, VERY INVOLVED.
2:56:43PM YOU'RE FINGERPRINTS ARE ALL OVER THE CITY.
2:56:45PM PEOPLE KNOW YOU.
2:56:46PM PEOPLE KNOW THE TYPE OF PEOPLE YOU ARE.
2:56:48PM THE HARD WORK AND THE DEDICATION AND THE SERVICE THAT YOU'VE
2:56:51PM DONE.
2:56:51PM SO WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
2:56:57PM AND THAT'S THAT.
2:56:58PM I DO HAVE I GUESS A QUASI-MOTION.
2:57:02PM THIS IS TOTALLY SEPARATE.
2:57:03PM IF WE NEED TO MAKE A MOTION, IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE, THEY ARE
2:57:07PM DOING WORK.
2:57:08PM I MENTIONED IT BRIEFLY, BUT IN THE LOBBY AREA WHERE CARENCIA
2:57:16PM WOULD SIT, THERE ARE THE STICK-ON PIECES OF CARPET, SQUARE.
2:57:22PM THE ORIGINAL TILE FLOOR PROBABLY FROM 1915 IS THERE.
2:57:26PM I MENTIONED TO SOME FOLKS IN FACILITIES THAT ARE WORKING
2:57:29PM THERE THE OTHER DAY.
2:57:30PM I DON'T KNOW WHO WE HAVE TO ASK.
2:57:33PM AN INFORMAL REQUEST THAT THAT LOBBY AREA, THAT SQUARE THAT
2:57:37PM THEY JUST LEAVE IT EXPOSED.
2:57:39PM PULL THE CARPET OFF AND A QUICK POLISH BECAUSE THE TILE
2:57:43PM UNDERNEATH IS IN GOOD SHAPE.
2:57:45PM I THINK IT LOOKS NICE WITH THE CITY CREST, THE MOSAIC ONE ON
2:57:48PM THE WALL.
2:57:49PM THE HISTORIC ASPECT.
2:57:51PM THIS BUILDING MODERNIZED INSIDE.
2:57:53PM OUTSIDE IT LOOKS ORIGINAL.
2:57:54PM DO WE NEED A MOTION OR REQUEST OF FACILITIES -- SO A MOTION
2:57:58PM THAT WE ASK FACILITIES, THE FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING IN THE
2:58:03PM CLERK'S OFFICE, TO EXPOSE, MEANING PULL OFF THE STICK-ON
2:58:08PM CARPET THAT'S THERE IN THE LOBBY AREA ONLY, AND JUST POLISH
2:58:11PM UP THOSE TILES UNDERNEATH.
2:58:13PM I THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK BEAUTIFUL ONCE IT'S DONE.
2:58:16PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
2:58:18PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:58:20PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
2:58:22PM ANY OPPOSITION?
2:58:22PM MOTION PASSES.
2:58:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT.
2:58:24PM THANK YOU.
2:58:25PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:58:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
2:58:28PM I APPRECIATE THE WORDS COUNCILMAN GUDES.
2:58:30PM IT'S NOT EASY SPEAKING FROM THE HEART LIKE THAT.
2:58:33PM I APPRECIATE IT.
2:58:34PM YOU LIKE COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
2:58:40PM YOU AND COUNCILMAN CITRO IS COUNCILMAN CITRO WAS CITYWIDE.
2:58:43PM YOU REPRESENT A DISTRICT.
2:58:45PM WHEN YOU REPRESENT A DISTRICT YOU HAVE A UNIQUE PAROCHIAL
2:58:48PM DUTY TO HIT IT HARD FOR THE DISTRICT.
2:58:50PM THE FIRST YEAR IN THE BUDGET WHEN YOU BROUGHT UP THE REC
2:58:53PM CENTER, AND THAT WAS KIND OF UNHEARD OF AT THE TIME.
2:58:56PM IT WAS, JUST TO STOP A BUDGET AND BE LIKE, HEY, LISTEN, MY
2:59:00PM DISTRICT NEEDS THIS.
2:59:01PM BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR WORDS A LOT.
2:59:03PM I MEAN THAT.
2:59:04PM I REALLY DO.
2:59:06PM COUNCILMAN CITRO, TO ME, YOU'RE POTHOLE JOE WHICH IS YOU'RE
2:59:13PM ALWAYS THE GUY THAT CITIZENS WOULD COME TO FOR EVERYDAY
2:59:16PM ISSUES, ROADS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND YOU'VE DONE SUCH A
2:59:19PM GOOD JOB WITH SUCH A REAL ZEAL FOR EVERYDAY SERVICES FOR OUR
2:59:23PM PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND BOTH OF YOU ALL HAVE A DEEP,
2:59:26PM DEEP, DEEP LOVE FOR THIS CITY AND WHATNOT.
2:59:30PM IT'S REALLY APPRECIATED 110%.
2:59:33PM I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A QUICK MOTION, IF I MAY.
2:59:36PM ONE.
2:59:37PM I MOTION -- THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT I GOT TO KNOW BY
2:59:39PM THE NAME OF COPS WHICH IS DEALING WITH SURVIVORS OF POLICE
2:59:44PM OFFICERS WHO HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE LINE OF DUTY.
2:59:48PM I WANTED TO INVITE FOR POLICE MEMORIAL WEEK CINDY ROBERTS
2:59:51PM WHO IS THE WIDOW OF MIKE ROBERTS WHO WAS TAKEN FROM US ABOUT
2:59:58PM 12 YEARS AGO TO SPEAK TO US ON MAY 18 JUST FOR FIVE MINUTES
3:00:03PM ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND STEPHANIE
3:00:05PM BARNES, WHOSE BROTHER WAS ST. PETERSBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT
3:00:09PM WAS TAKEN FROM US AS WELL.
3:00:10PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:00:12PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:00:14PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:00:14PM ANY OPPOSITION?
3:00:15PM MOTION CARRIES.
3:00:16PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:00:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: I GUESS WE'LL SEE EACH OTHER IN A COUPLE OF
3:00:23PM HOURS BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO CHAIR CITRO AND COUNCIL
3:00:29PM MEMBER GUDES.
3:00:29PM IT'S BEEN GREAT WORKING WITH YOU GUYS.
3:00:31PM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, THANK YOU FOR THE NICE WORDS.
3:00:34PM JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, WE CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER
3:00:38PM OUTSIDE THIS ROOM.
3:00:43PM WE WERE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND THEN HERE.
3:00:46PM WE ALL HAVE TO SENSE WHAT EACH OTHER IS THINKING BECAUSE WE
3:00:50PM CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER AND COMPARE NOTES OUTSIDE.
3:00:52PM COUNCIL MEMBER GUDES, I APPRECIATE YOUR ADVOCACY FOR YOUR
3:00:58PM DISTRICT, EDUCATING ME AT LEAST ON THE THINGS THAT YOUR
3:01:02PM DISTRICT NEEDED AND YOUR PERSISTENCE IN CHASING THOSE
3:01:06PM THINGS, AND I THINK EVERYBODY CAN SEE YOUR HEART IS IN IT
3:01:09PM AND YOUR DEDICATION AND YOUR HONESTY IN ADDRESSING ISSUES.
3:01:14PM I THINK IT'S BEEN REFRESHING.
3:01:15PM WE'VE RESOLVED A LOT OF ISSUES.
3:01:18PM THE CITY NEEDED TO GO THROUGH A TRANSFORMATION THE LAST FOUR
3:01:21PM YEARS, AND I THINK WE TOGETHER HELPED MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
3:01:24PM NOW HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE INTO A PHASE WHERE WE CAN ALL HEAL
3:01:27PM AND WORK TOGETHER AND MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
3:01:30PM BUT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OVER THE LAST FOUR
3:01:32PM YEARS.
3:01:33PM BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING A CIGAR
3:01:36PM WITH YOU SOMETIME SOON.
3:01:39PM AND SPEAKING OF CIGARS, CONGRATS TO MY OTHER COLLEAGUES WHO
3:01:45PM WON ON TUESDAY, AND ESPECIALLY THE COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK WHO
3:01:49PM FACED UNBELIEVABLE ODDS IN GETTING HIT.
3:01:57PM I CAN'T IMAGINE -- I WAS HIT WITH ABOUT HALF AS MUCH AS YOU
3:02:00PM WERE HIT WITH.
3:02:01PM I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO GO THROUGH THAT.
3:02:03PM THANK YOU FOR PERSEVERING THROUGH THAT.
3:02:06PM HOPEFULLY IT SENT A LOT OF SIGNALS THAT THE PUBLIC IS
3:02:09PM SERIOUS ABOUT CHANGE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
3:02:11PM WE'VE HAD SEVERAL WINS NOW THAT ARE PROOF THAT THE COMMUNITY
3:02:16PM WANTS A BALANCE OF POWER AND THEY WANT GOOD GOVERNMENT, AND
3:02:20PM THE ADMINISTRATION IS SAYING THEY WANT TO WORK WITH US NOW.
3:02:22PM SO I HOPE THAT WILL ALL HAPPEN.
3:02:25PM BUT THE PUBLIC CLEARLY IS AWARE OF WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.
3:02:29PM THEY ARE EDUCATED ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING, AND THEY
3:02:31PM VOTED.
3:02:32PM SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD AND MAKE THE POSITIVE CHANGES THAT WE
3:02:35PM NEED IN THIS COMMUNITY.
3:02:36PM THANK YOU ALL.
3:02:38PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THANK YOU.
3:02:39PM I HAVE TO MAKE LA JEFA HAPPY.
3:02:45PM NOT TALKING ABOUT PAULA.
3:02:47PM TALKING ABOUT FRAN CONSTANTINO.
3:02:49PM MAKE A MOTION, USING THE PROCESS TO BE FINALIZED IN NEXT
3:02:52PM WEEK'S ORDINANCE, I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO RENAME EAST YBOR
3:02:58PM PARK TO CONSTANTINO PARK BECAUSE OF THE FAMILY'S LONG-TERM
3:03:04PM PRESENCE IN YBOR CITY AND THE HISTORY THE FAMILY HAS HAD
3:03:09PM WITH THE IMPROVEMENT THAT HAVE HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS IN
3:03:15PM THIS EAST YBOR PARK.
3:03:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
3:03:20PM I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL.
3:03:23PM I'VE KNOWN FRAN A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
3:03:26PM AGAIN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A HARDWORKING INDIVIDUAL,
3:03:30PM ORLANDO GUDES IS A HARDWORKING INDIVIDUAL, FRAN IS RIGHT
3:03:33PM THERE AND HOW SHE'S DEVOTED HERSELF FOR YEARS TO THE
3:03:35PM COMMUNITY.
3:03:36PM I CAN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY BOARDS, ORGANIZATIONS,
3:03:38PM NONPROFITS, VERY, VERY MUCH DESERVED.
3:03:42PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN CITRO, SECOND BY COUNCIL
3:03:47PM MEMBER CARLSON.
3:03:49PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:03:50PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:03:51PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:03:53PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:03:55PM MR. SHELBY.
3:03:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH YOUR
3:04:02PM INDULGENCE FOR JUST A MINUTE I JUST WANTED TO SAY FROM WHERE
3:04:05PM I SIT, IT IS A TREMENDOUS HONOR AND A GREAT PRIVILEGE TO
3:04:08PM SERVE THE CITY COUNCIL.
3:04:10PM AND BOTH OF YOU GENTLEMEN I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE
3:04:13PM OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE YOU TO HELP YOU BETTER SERVE YOUR
3:04:15PM CONSTITUENTS.
3:04:17PM IT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS HONOR AND PRIVILEGE FOR ME AND I WANT
3:04:20PM TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, FOR YOUR TIME ON CITY
3:04:23PM COUNCIL.
3:04:24PM AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS GREATLY FROM THIS COUNCIL
3:04:28PM AND WHAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP.
3:04:30PM THAT BEING SAID, GENTLEMEN, AND MADAM COUNCILWOMAN, THERE IS
3:04:39PM AN ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING 2 P.M. HERE ON MONDAY AT WHICH
3:04:44PM TIME YOU SELECT THE CHAIR AND THE CHAIR PRO TEM OF CITY
3:04:48PM COUNCIL, AND THE CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR OF THE CRA.
3:04:52PM I HAVE ALSO BEEN ADVISED THAT THERE WILL BE SOMEBODY HERE,
3:04:54PM BRIAN SULLIVAN WILL BE HERE TO TAKE A PICTURE BEFORE THE
3:04:57PM START OF THAT MEETING FOR THE PURPOSES OF UPDATING THE
3:05:00PM WEBSITE.
3:05:01PM JUST BE PREPARED FOR THAT.
3:05:03PM AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY A THANK-YOU.
3:05:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:05:07PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
3:05:09PM MANISCALCO.
3:05:10PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:05:11PM ALL IN FAVOR --
3:05:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, ONE LAST THING.
3:05:15PM I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE HAVE A 5:00 MEETING AND WE
3:05:17PM HAVE A QUORUM.
3:05:18PM IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO WISHES TO APPEAR VIRTUALLY, AS LONG
3:05:21PM AS WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM, THAT COULD BE ARRANGED.
3:05:24PM IT'S JUST ONE ITEM AND IT'S VERY SHORT.
3:05:27PM THANK YOU.
3:05:29PM >>JOSEPH CITRO: THIS WORKSHOP IS ADJOURNED.
3:05:31PM CITY COUNCIL WILL RECONVENE AT 5:01.
3:05:33PM
2:49:27PM [MEETING ADJOURNED]
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