TAMPA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
MONDAY, MAY 22, 2023, 9:00 A.M.
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9:02:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS SPECIAL-CALLED MEETING TO ORDER ON
MAY 22, 9 A.M.
CAN WE HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
9:02:24AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:02:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:02:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:02:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
9:02:29AM >>THE CLERK:
VIERA? MIRANDA?
9:02:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:02:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:02:32AM >>THE CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:02:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, YOU
HAVE THREE MINUTES.
ANYBODY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED?
9:02:42AM >>THE CLERK:
NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
9:02:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
WE'LL GO RIGHT TO THE ITEM, I BELIEVE, MR. ROGERO.
9:02:55AM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF SOME OF YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT ALSO.
WE'RE ASKING TO TAKE A $20 MILLION -- OR MAKE A $20 MILLION
DECISION TODAY ON THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION YOU HAVE IN FRONT
OF YOU.
I HAVE ONE OR TWO ELMO SLIDES THAT MAY BE HELPFUL.
BUT IN A NUTSHELL, AS DISCUSSIONS CONTINUE IN WASHINGTON
ABOUT THE DEBT CEILING AND THE FEDERAL BUDGET, MORE AND MORE
WE ARE HEARING AND OTHER LOCALITIES ARE HEARING THAT IT'S
LIKELY THERE WILL BE AN ATTEMPT TO TAKE BACK -- THEY CALL IT
A CLAWBACK -- THE UNOBLIGATED FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THE
AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, ARPA FUNDING.
AND MOREOVER, IF THEY DO THAT, THERE IS UNLIKELY TO BE A
GRACE PERIOD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IF THEY DO THAT, AS SOON AS THE PRESIDENT SIGNS THE
DOCUMENT, IT WILL TAKE IMMEDIATE EFFECT.
WE HAVE ABOUT $20 MILLION OF OUR $80 MILLION UNOBLIGATED AT
THIS TIME.

SO ABOUT THREE-QUARTERS OBLIGATED.
AS WE TALK TO OTHER LOCALITIES, AS WE TALK TO GOVERNMENT
EXPERTS, THAT'S A VERY GOOD ACCELERATED PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT
WE WANT.
WE WANT TO GET THE MONEY.
WE WANT TO GET IT OUT THE DOOR, BUT WE STILL HAVE THAT
$20 MILLION, IN MY MIND, IN OUR MIND, RISK AS TO WHERE ARE
THEY GOING TO LAND UP IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS
RELATIVELY COMPLEX.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INTER AND INTRAFUND TRANSFERS.
THAT'S GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING FOR YOU.
THAT'S WHY I HAVE A TEAM OF VERY, VERY SHARP PEOPLE TO MAKE
SURE EACH DOLLAR IS GOING AND COMING FROM WHERE IT SHOULD.
BUT I HAVE A SUMMATION SLIDE HERE WHICH MAY SIMPLIFY THINGS
FOR YOU.
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHOEVER IS ADJUSTING THAT.
I APPRECIATE THAT.
YOU SEE AT THE TOP, THIS WAS THE PLAN.
$20 MILLION OF EXPENDITURES.
AGAIN, IN KEEPING WITH THE $80 MILLION PLAN COUNCIL ADOPTED
AFTER WE RECEIVED THE FUNDING ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
WE WERE TALKING IN PREPARATION OF THIS FINANCIAL RESOLUTION,
YOU KNOW, IN SCUBA DIVING, THEY TELL YOU TO PLAN THE DIVE

AND DIVE THE PLAN.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE DOING.
THEY APPEAR TO BE CHANGING THE PLAN, OR ABOUT TO CHANGE THE
PLAN, UP AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, SO WE FEEL WE NEED TO.
$20 MILLION, THE OLD PLAN AT THE TOP, WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS
TO SIMPLY TAKE THAT $20 MILLION AND USE THE ARPA FUNDING YOU
SEE ON THE BOTTOM FOR POLICE AND FIRE RESCUE SALARIES THAT
HAVE BEEN EXPENSED ALREADY IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
THAT WILL IMMEDIATELY OBLIGATE THAT $20 MILLION.
AND THEN THE $20 MILLION WE WERE GOING TO SPEND ON THOSE
ITEMS WE'LL TAKE FROM GENERAL REVENUES.
SO IT'S A DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR SWAP, BUT IT OBLIGATES THAT
FUNDING.
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT IN A NUTSHELL.
AGAIN, I RECOGNIZE THE FINANCIAL RESOLUTION IS VERY COMPLEX,
AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL HAS.
9:06:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
NO.
WE THANK YOU FOR -- YES, SIR.
9:06:09AM >>BILL CARLSON:
MARTY, WE JUST PASSED THIS RULE NOT LONG AGO
THAT WE HAVE TO READ A $20 MILLION OR ABOVE ITEM TWICE.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD DO, BUT I WOULD MAKE A
MOTION THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE TO WAIVE THAT RULE.
9:06:25AM >> SECOND.
9:06:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUSTIN, THAT'S GOING TO BE FORTHCOMING TO

COUNCIL.
IT HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED YET BY ORDINANCE.
9:06:31AM >> YES.
JUSTIN VASKE, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
SECOND READING IS ON THURSDAY, SO IT HASN'T BEEN ENACTED
YET.
9:06:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BUT IF YOU WISH TO DO THAT, JUST TO BE
CLEAR THAT YOU'RE WAIVING YOUR PREVIOUS POLICY THAT HAS NOT
YET TAKEN EFFECT.
9:06:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE GO AHEAD AND
DO THAT, IF WE COULD.
9:06:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON.
WHO WAS THE SECOND?
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON WITH THE SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
9:06:55AM >> AYE.
9:06:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT WAIVES THE RULE JUST TO BE SAFE.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO THEN MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS
RESOLUTION?
9:07:03AM >> SO MOVED.
9:07:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?
I KNOW WE DON'T TAKE NEW BUSINESS, BUT THIS IS JUST A
FORMALITY HERE TODAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, IF I CAN HAND THE GAVEL TO
YOU.
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE AGENDA.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE STAFF TO PRESENT
THE MIDYEAR BUDGET REVIEW FOR THIS THURSDAY'S WORKSHOP
SESSION, THAT IT BE ADDED TO THE FINAL AGENDA.
9:07:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
IS THERE A SECOND?
9:07:32AM >> SECOND.
9:07:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
MOTION PASSES.
9:07:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
9:07:39AM >> SO MOVED.
9:07:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO MOVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
THANK YOU.
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