TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JULY 27, 2023
9:00 A.M.
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09:03:40AM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:03:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
09:03:44AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
09:03:46AM ORDER.
09:03:47AM I YIELD TO COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR THE INVOCATION.
09:03:50AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:03:53AM MY GREAT PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE CHAPLAIN SEWELL, THE FOUNDER
09:04:02AM OF CURRENT INITIATIVES, A TAMPA-BASED NONPROFIT LEADING
09:04:06AM INITIATIVES SUCH AS THE LAUNDRY PROJECT, HOPE FOR HOMES
09:04:10AM PROJECT AND AFFORDABLE CHRISTMAS.
09:04:11AM HE HAS BEEN A MINISTER IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA FOR MORE THAN
09:04:14AM 20 YEARS AND A GREAT PLEASURE TO HAVE HIM HERE WITH US FOR
09:04:17AM THE INVOCATION.
09:04:18AM IF YOU ALL CAN STAND IF YOU ARE ABLE TO DO SO AND REMAIN
09:04:22AM STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:04:25AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:04:27AM LET'S BOW OUR HEADS.
09:04:28AM HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS DAY, A BEAUTIFUL DAY
09:04:31AM THAT WE CAN LIVE AND REPRESENT YOU IN OUR GREAT CITY.
09:04:33AM THANK YOU FOR THESE LEADERS, COUNCILMEMBERS AND CITY LEADERS
09:04:39AM WHO WORK EVERY DAY TO REPRESENT US, TAKE CARE OF OUR
09:04:42AM NEIGHBORHOODS, AND ON THIS DAY AND THESE NEXT FEW MINUTES,
09:04:46AM THESE HOURS, MAY WE BE REPRESENTATIVE OF YOU.
09:04:48AM MAY OUR WORDS BE HONORING TO YOU.
09:04:50AM MAY WE BE GRACEFUL AND CARING AND LOVING FOR THE PEOPLE
09:04:54AM AROUND US.
09:04:54AM THANK YOU FOR THESE FIRE FIGHTERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY.
09:04:58AM PROTECT THEM.
09:04:59AM BLESS THEM.
09:05:00AM THANK YOU FOR THESE CITY MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE TO VOICE THEIR
09:05:03AM CONCERNS.
09:05:03AM TO THEIR NEEDS IN OUR CITY.
09:05:06AM MAY WE BE REPRESENTATIVE OF YOU AS A CITY OF HOPE AND A CITY
09:05:10AM OF GRACE AND CARE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN A GROWING AND
09:05:14AM PASSIONATE CITY.
09:05:15AM WE LOVE YOU.
09:05:16AM THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR LOVING US.
09:05:18AM IN JESUS'S NAME, AMEN.
09:05:21AM >> AMEN.
09:05:23AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:05:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:05:36AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:05:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:05:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:05:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
09:05:44AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
09:05:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:05:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:05:48AM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:05:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:05:51AM AT THIS TIME, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES JULY
09:05:55AM 13, 2023 AND THE EVENING SESSION HELD ON JULY 20, 2023?
09:05:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
09:06:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:06:02AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:06:05AM ALL IN FAVOR?
09:06:07AM ALL RIGHT.
09:06:08AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:06:09AM OKAY.
09:06:11AM AT THIS TIME, A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
09:06:14AM NUMBER ONE, WE WILL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
09:06:16AM BUT I HAVE A MEMO FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WHO WILL BE
09:06:19AM ARRIVING A LITTLE BIT LATE TODAY BECAUSE HE IS ATTENDING A
09:06:22AM FRIEND'S WAKE WHICH HE MUST ATTEND.
09:06:24AM IF HE HAS NOT ARRIVED IN TIME TO PRESENT THE COMMENDATION TO
09:06:28AM CHIEF PEREZ, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AGREED TO PRESENT IT ON
09:06:32AM HIS BEHALF.
09:06:34AM I HAVE A MEMO I WILL PUT INTO THE RECORD, AND ALSO, WE HAVE
09:06:37AM A MEMO FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:06:38AM HE HAS RESPECTFULLY REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NUMBER 1
09:06:44AM TO SEPTEMBER 21, 2023.
09:06:47AM IF WE CAN GET A MOTION.
09:06:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
09:06:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
09:06:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:06:53AM IN ITS PLACE, WE WILL BE HONORING THE FIRST WOMAN FIRE
09:06:57AM FIGHTER FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA ON THE 45th ANNIVERSARY OF
09:07:00AM HER HIRING.
09:07:00AM SHE IS HERE.
09:07:01AM WE WILL START THE AGENDA WITH THAT.
09:07:03AM AND THEN WE WILL CONTINUE.
09:07:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
09:07:07AM MAY I MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT -- FOR THE COMMENDATION.
09:07:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU WANT TO.
09:07:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: MAKE A MOTION FOR HIS MECHY FERNANDEZ WRIGHT.
09:07:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:07:20AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:07:25AM THAT WAS A WALK-ON.
09:07:26AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:07:30AM GO TO THE AGENDA REAL QUICK.
09:07:31AM QUITE A FEW ITEMS.
09:07:32AM 34 AND 40 ARE RELATED .THAT IS JUST A FYI.
09:07:36AM ITEM 38, A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
09:07:39AM AND WE WILL GET TO THAT ONCE WEIGH GET TO THAT COMMITTEE.
09:07:42AM FOR ITEM NUMBER 50, DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR 1:30 TO PULL THIS
09:07:47AM FROM THE AGENDA, MR. SHELBY OR DO THIS NOW?
09:07:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS IT --
09:07:54AM [INAUDIBLE]
09:07:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNDER 1:30.
09:07:57AM SO 1:30 WILL NOT BE HEARD -- ITEM NUMBER 50 WILL NOT BE
09:08:01AM HEARD BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 1:30 TO PULL THAT.
09:08:04AM NO ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE FROM CHIEF BENNETT.
09:08:08AM ITEM NUMBER 52, WE ARE GOING TO STAFF REPORTS.
09:08:11AM THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO OCTOBER 19.
09:08:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
09:08:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
09:08:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:08:23AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:08:24AM ALL RIGHT, 53 IS --
09:08:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
09:08:30AM MY APOLOGIES, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:08:33AM IF WE CAN GO IN ORDER AND DECIDE WHETHER THERE WILL BE STAFF
09:08:37AM OR NOT.
09:08:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM IN ORDER.
09:08:40AM THAT WAS THE FIRST ITEM.
09:08:41AM 51, ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE AND ON 52.
09:08:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION IS MR. BENNETT GOING TO BE
09:08:49AM UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
09:08:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SAID NO CHIEF BENNETT UNDER
09:08:54AM ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
09:08:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME.
09:08:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NUMBER 53.
09:08:58AM JUST DISCUSSION AND WILL NOT BE ADOPTED.
09:09:00AM JUST A DISCUSSION.
09:09:02AM WE WILL NOT BE VOTING ON ITEM NUMBER 53.
09:09:04AM ITEM -- SORRY, ITEM 54.
09:09:07AM DO WHERE HE NEED MR. BAIRD PRESENT?
09:09:12AM MR. BAIRD WILL BE PRESENT FOR ITEM 54.
09:09:16AM ITEM 55, DO WE NEED MR. BAIRD PRESENT OF THE McKAY BAY
09:09:23AM WASTEWATER IMPROVEMENT.
09:09:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD.
09:09:26AM THAT IS -- $19 MILLION ISN'T SOMETHING TO SNEEZE AT.
09:09:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, I AGREE.
09:09:32AM ITEM 55 WILL BE HEARD IF WE HAVE MR. BAIRD.
09:09:36AM IF WE WILL HAVE MR. BAIRD PRESENT.
09:09:40AM ITEMS 56 AND 57 GO TOGETHER, $3.6 MILLION AND $4.3 MILLION.
09:09:47AM WE HAVE A MEMO FROM JEAN DUNCAN.
09:09:49AM WOULD YOU LIKE MISS DUNCAN PRESENT.
09:09:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN WITH THESE BIG MONEY THINGS, I WOULD.
09:09:54AM ITEM 56 AND 57.
09:09:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:09:57AM ITEM 59, TPD TO APPEAR.
09:10:00AM YES.
09:10:02AM I KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO BE HERE --
09:10:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 58.
09:10:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SORRY, 58.
09:10:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:10:07AM I TALKED TO CHIEF BERCAW ABOUT IT.
09:10:10AM SO HE KNOWS.
09:10:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF ANYTHING COMES UP DURING PUBLIC
09:10:15AM COMMENT REGARDING -- IF ANYTHING COMES UP DURING PUBLIC
09:10:18AM COMMENT REGARDING ANYTHING WITH TPD, IT WILL BE ADDRESSED
09:10:21AM UNDER THIS STAFF REPORT, 58.
09:10:23AM ALL RIGHT, ITEM 59.
09:10:25AM OCEA WILL BE PRESENT IN CHAMBERS.
09:10:28AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, THAT WAS YOUR MOTION.
09:10:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, AND I HAVE IT WITH EVERYTHING -- WITH MY
09:10:35AM FAMILY AND MEDICAL ISSUES, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO
09:10:38AM MISS WYNN ABOUT THIS, I APOLOGIZE.
09:10:42AM I WILL LOOK AT THIS AND IF I DON'T NEED HER HERE UNDER MY
09:10:46AM VIEW, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK, YES.
09:10:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS WYNN WILL BE HERE.
09:10:54AM ITEM NUMBER 60, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
09:10:57AM WE HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT.
09:10:58AM WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF HERE ON 60?
09:11:04AM >> YES.
09:11:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STAFF TO BE HERE ON 60.
09:11:07AM 61, FOREST HILL PARKS IMPROVEMENT.
09:11:10AM A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
09:11:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: THEY CAN DO IT.
09:11:14AM I MEAN, I DON'T SEE THE NEED.
09:11:16AM IF THEY HAVE IT, THEY CAN PRESENT IT.
09:11:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL KEEP ON.
09:11:19AM 61 WE WILL KEEP ON.
09:11:20AM ITEM NUMBER 62 --
09:11:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR?
09:11:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
09:11:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: STAFF ASKED TO CONTINUE THIS.
09:11:27AM I HAD A SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATION WITH MORRIS MASSEY WHO MAY
09:11:31AM NOT BE HERE NOW BUT WILL BE AVAILABLE LATER.
09:11:33AM HE AGREED IF WE COULD ASK HIM A FEW QUESTIONS AND THEN
09:11:37AM SCHEDULE FOR THE ADDITIONAL DATE THAT HE WANTS.
09:11:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL TAKE SOME QUESTIONS.
09:11:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, NOT 62.
09:11:43AM THAT WAS THE WRONG ONE.
09:11:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 62 A REQUEST FOR APRIL 24, 2024.
09:11:49AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION.
09:11:51AM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:11:52AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:11:55AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:11:55AM ITEMS NUMBER 63, 64, AND 65, WE WILL FROM MONICA AMMON PRINT
09:12:07AM IN THE CHAMBER.
09:12:08AM HONORARY STREET RENAMING.
09:12:10AM I WOULD LIKE FOR THE INDIVIDUAL TO BE HERE IF THERE IS ANY
09:12:13AM OBJECTION TO THAT, NO?
09:12:15AM 63, 4 AND 5, ALL ONE INDIVIDUAL AND ASK THAT SHE IS HERE.
09:12:19AM ITEM NUMBER 66.
09:12:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS THE ONE.
09:12:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:12:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, I WAS FLIPPING PAGES BACK AND FORTH.
09:12:28AM I SPOKE WITH MR. MASSEY SUBSEQUENT TO THEIR REQUEST AND HE
09:12:31AM AND I AGREED TO HAVE A VERY SHORT CONVERSATION AND THEN
09:12:35AM CONTINUE IT.
09:12:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY WE HAVE A MOTION --
09:12:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL DO IT AT THE TIME, THANKS.
09:12:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S THAT.
09:12:42AM 67.
09:12:43AM A REQUEST TO CONTINUE FOR OCTOBER 19.
09:12:45AM A MOTION MADE BY -- GUILT WITH HURTAK THAT IS HERE.
09:12:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THAT IS FINE.
09:12:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO
09:12:57AM CONTINUE ITEM 67 TO OCTOBER 19, TREE.
09:13:01AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:13:02AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:13:03AM MR. SHELBY, ITEM 68.
09:13:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, WE ARE PREPARED.
09:13:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHY HE?
09:13:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
09:13:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 69, MR. SHELBY, YOU ARE HERE.
09:13:13AM THAT STAY ON THE AGENDA.
09:13:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
09:13:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 70, A REQUEST FOR
09:13:19AM CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST 24 BY A SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY
09:13:23AM ATTORNEY.
09:13:23AM THE MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
09:13:24AM ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT CONTINUANCE?
09:13:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
09:13:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CONTINUE FROM COUNCILMAN
09:13:29AM VIERA.
09:13:30AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:13:31AM ALL IN FAVOR.
09:13:32AM AYE.
09:13:32AM THAT'S IT FOR STAFF REPORTS.
09:13:36AM AT THIS TIME, LET'S SEE -- ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE OTHER ITEMS
09:13:41AM FOR NEW BUSINESS.
09:13:41AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.
09:13:44AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:13:47AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:13:49AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:13:50AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU WILL HONOR OUR FIRST WOMAN FIRE
09:13:55AM FIGHTER.
09:13:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:14:07AM A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
09:14:09AM WE ARE HERE TO HONOR MISS MECHY FERNANDEZ WRIGHT, WHO 45
09:14:13AM YEARS AGO, THIS JUNE, BECAME OUR VERY FIRST CITY OF TAMPA FIRE
09:14:19AM FIGHTER.
09:14:19AM SHE IS HERE.
09:14:19AM WE OBVIOUSLY ARE HERE WITH INDIVIDUALS FROM TAMPA FIRE
09:14:23AM RESCUE, TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS, LOCAL 754 AS WELL.
09:14:26AM SHE IS HERE WITH HER HUSBAND, JESSIE, WHO IS HERE, AS WELL
09:14:30AM AS HER SON, MR. DEAN KENT, WHO IS AN ATTORNEY WHO MAY HAVE
09:14:33AM TO LEAVE SHORTLY FOR COURT, BUT HERE TO HONOR HIS MOTHER.
09:14:38AM IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND FOR MECHY, SHE WAS HIRED IN 1978 WITH
09:14:44AM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
09:14:45AM SHE SERVED AS A FIRE FIGHTER, AS A PARAMEDIC, AS A FIRE
09:14:49AM INVESTIGATOR.
09:14:49AM THEN WORKED IN FIRE PREVENTION AS A PUBLIC EDUCATION
09:14:52AM OFFICER.
09:14:53AM AND FINALLY AS A FIRE INSPECTOR OF NEW CONSTRUCTION OVER
09:14:56AM THOSE 20 YEARS.
09:14:57AM AND WE HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WE WILL GO OVER AFTER THE
09:15:01AM PRESENTATION HERE.
09:15:03AM SHOWING HER.
09:15:04AM YOU WILL NOTICE THE FIRST -- THIS IS INTERESTING.
09:15:06AM AN ARTICLE FROM THE "TAMPA TRIBUNE" 1978, LOCAL GAL SAYS SHE
09:15:12AM CAN TAKE THE HEAT.
09:15:13AM TALK ABOUT LANGUAGE FROM 1978, RIGHT.
09:15:15AM WHEN SHE ARRIVED HERE AT THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, SHE
09:15:18AM OBVIOUSLY HAD A GREAT MANY CHALLENGES.
09:15:21AM WE KNOW IN THE YEAR 2023, IT IS NOT EASY FOR WOMEN WHO ARE
09:15:25AM FIRST RESPONDERS.
09:15:26AM WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY BEEN VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE A FEW TAMPA
09:15:31AM POLICE CHIEFS WHO ARE WOMEN.
09:15:33AM WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE OUR FIRST TAMPA FIRE RESCUE WHO IS FEMALE,
09:15:39AM CHIEF TRIPP, WHO IS WITH US HERE TODAY.
09:15:41AM SOMETHING DIFFICULT AND EVEN MORE DIFFICULT IN 1978 BUT
09:15:44AM SOMETHING THAT MECHY KNEW SHE WOULD OVERCOME.
09:15:48AM SHE HAD BEEN HERE SO MUCH WORSE.
09:15:51AM CAME HERE IN 1966 AS A CUBAN REFUGEE AT THE AGE OF 13, NOT
09:15:56AM SPEAKING A WORD OF ENGLISH COMING WITH HER MOTHER, FATHER
09:16:00AM AND GRANDMOTHER WITH NOTHING BUT THE SHIRTS ON THEIR BACK
09:16:03AM AND NOT KNOWING HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH.
09:16:05AM FIVE DAYS AFTER COMING TO THIS COUNTRY A STRANGER IN A
09:16:09AM STRANGE LAND AS THE BOOKS OF EXODUS, BEGIN IN THE PUBLIC
09:16:13AM SCHOOLS IN THE UNITED STATES.
09:16:14AM FIVE YEARS BEFORE THAT HER YOUNGER BROTHER UNDER MONSIGNOR
09:16:18AM WALSH'S PROGRAM THAT GAVE 15,000 YOUNGSTERS FROM CUBA THE
09:16:22AM CHANCE TO ESCAPE WITHOUT THEIR PARENTS TO THE ROMAN CATHOLIC
09:16:26AM CHURCH.
09:16:26AM OBVIOUSLY VERY, VERY TRAUMATIC.
09:16:28AM SHE STARTED AT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE, SHE KNEW THAT THE BLOOD
09:16:31AM THAT RAN INSIDE OF HER WAS CHALLENGED WITH SO MUCH MORE AND
09:16:34AM SHE WAS READY FOR THE CHALLENGE.
09:16:36AM SHE WAS ONLY 26 YEARS OLD.
09:16:38AM IT BEGAN ONE DAY WHEN SHE WAS AT A CITY OF TAMPA MEETING AND
09:16:42AM HEARD THEN TAMPA -- FIRE CHIEF RONNIE MASON TALK ABOUT THE
09:16:46AM DEPARTMENT HOW THEY WOULD BE LIKE TO BE MORE WELCOMING OF
09:16:49AM WOMEN.
09:16:49AM SHE SAID WHY NOT ME.
09:16:51AM AND THE REST AS THEY SAY IS HISTORY.
09:16:53AM GOT TO TAKE THE CIVIL SERVICE, ORAL GER VIEW, MEDICAL
09:16:58AM EXAMINATION WITH 240 HOURS OF CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION
09:17:01AM AND VERY GRUELING PHYSICAL TESTING THAT IS REQUIRED FOR FIRE
09:17:06AM FIGHTERS.
09:17:06AM ALL THIS WHILE BEING THE FIRST WOMAN IN 1978.
09:17:09AM 45 YEARS AGO.
09:17:11AM SHE WOULD RETIRE FROM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE IN 1998 AFTER GOING
09:17:16AM THROUGH A LOT OF YEARS.
09:17:17AM A LOT OF YEARS OF CHALLENGE LIKE ANY FIRE FIGHTER HAD BUT A
09:17:21AM LOT OF YEARS OF PARTICULARLY ACUTE CHALLENGE BEING THAT
09:17:24AM FIRST.
09:17:24AM BEING THAT FIRST AS TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
09:17:26AM EARN HER MASTER'S DEGREE IN BEHAVIORAL ANALYSIS AND SPENT 13
09:17:31AM YEARS AS A SPECIALIST HELPING OUT INDIVIDUALS WITH
09:17:33AM INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, AUTISM AND OTHER BEHAVIORAL
09:17:38AM PROBLEMS AS A PROFESSIONAL IN THAT REGARD.
09:17:41AM IN SPEAKING WITH HER, SHE SAID THIS IS WHAT I DID AS A TAMPA
09:17:45AM FIRE FIGHTER HELPING PEOPLE IN NEED AND FOR ME IT WAS A
09:17:48AM CONTINUATION OF THAT.
09:17:49AM REALLY A TRAILBLAZER.
09:17:50AM A WOMAN WHO WAS THE FIRST OF MANY WHO WOULD GO ON AFTER HER
09:17:54AM AND SHE NO PUN INTENDED TOOK THE HEAT FOR WOMEN WHO WOULD
09:17:57AM COME AFTER HER.
09:17:58AM A WOMAN OF STRENGTH.
09:17:59AM AGAIN A CUBAN REFUGEE CAME HERE AT THE AGE OF 13 WITH
09:18:02AM NOTHING BUT THE SHIRT ON HER BACK WITH HER FAMILY.
09:18:04AM A WOMAN WHO REMEMBERS WHERE SHE COMES FROM.
09:18:07AM SHE IS A BELIEVER IN HER -- IN HER ORIGINAL HOMELAND AND
09:18:11AM FREEDOM INNER WHO HOMELAND BUT REMEMBERS HERE HER DUTIES AS
09:18:16AM AN AMERICAN.
09:18:17AM THE IDEAS OF COMPASSION AND INCLUSIVITY AND TOLERANCE IN
09:18:24AM 1968.
09:18:24AM SHE WANTS AN AMERICA THAT IS JUST AS INCLUSIVE TODAY AS THE
09:18:29AM ONE THAT WELCOMED HER IN 1966.
09:18:32AM A WORLD THAT REMEMBERS WHERE SHE COMES FROM.
09:18:35AM OUR LEGACY.
09:18:37AM AS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, OUR PLEASURE TO GIVE A TAMPA CITY
09:18:43AM COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO MECHY FERNANDEZ WRIGHT FOR 45 YEARS.
09:18:46AM MARKING 45 YEARS AS THE FIRST FEMALE TAMPA FIRE FIGHTER.
09:18:49AM LET'S GIVE THIS WONDERFUL WOMAN A ROUND OF APPLAUSE.
09:18:52AM [APPLAUSE]
09:19:12AM >> WHOO!
09:19:15AM WELL, LIKE I TOLD COUNCILMAN VIERA, IT FEELS LIKE SOMETHING
09:19:18AM HAS BEEN RESURRECTED, BECAUSE I HAD KIND OF PUT MY LIFE -- I
09:19:22AM COULD FEEL LIKE MY LIFE WAS IN SECTIONS, LIKE, YOU KNOW,
09:19:26AM WHEN I WAS IN CUBA, WHEN I WAS A FIRE FIGHTER, WHEN I WAS A
09:19:31AM BEHAVIORAL ANALYST, WHEN I WAS A GRANDMOTHER.
09:19:34AM MY FIRE FIGHTER CAREER WAS KIND OF BURIED.
09:19:38AM ALL OF A SUDDEN BECAUSE OF CHIEF TRIPP.
09:19:41AM IT WAS RESURRECTED.
09:19:45AM WE DID AN INTERVIEW AND BROUGHT EVERYTHING UP TO THE FRONT.
09:19:46AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR HONORING ME.
09:19:48AM I AM HUMBLED.
09:19:49AM I AM PROUD OF WHAT I DID.
09:19:51AM I GAVE THE CITY EVERYTHING I HAD.
09:19:55AM AND IT WAS NOT EASY.
09:19:57AM I HAD A ROUGH TIMES.
09:19:59AM I HAD WONDERFUL TIMES.
09:20:00AM IT SHOWS THAT MAYBE WHAT I WENT THROUGH WAS WORTH IT,
09:20:05AM BECAUSE FINALLY WOMEN HAVE REACHED THE TOP OF THE LADDER.
09:20:08AM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:20:09AM I AM HONORED.
09:20:10AM THANK YOU, SIR.
09:20:12AM [APPLAUSE]
09:20:21AM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, BARBARA TRIPP FOR
09:20:25AM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
09:20:26AM IF ANYBODY DESERVED THIS AWARD, IT IS MISS WRIGHT.
09:20:29AM SHE HAS LEFT A LEGACY I AM CONTINUING TO CARRY.
09:20:33AM AS FAR AS DESERVING THIS AWARD, I AM SURPRISED IT TOOK SO
09:20:36AM LONG.
09:20:36AM BUT I HAD TO REACH BACK TO HER TO LET HER KNOW THAT YOU
09:20:39AM HAVEN'T BEEN FORGOTTEN, OKAY.
09:20:41AM WHEN I CAME ON IN 1997, I LOOKED UP TO HER AND HER HUSBAND
09:20:46AM BECAUSE HE WAS MY FIRST CAPTAIN.
09:20:48AM SHE IS THE REASON WHY TAMPA FIRE RESCUE CONTINUES WITH A LOT
09:20:51AM OF ACCREDITATION THAT WE HAVE.
09:20:53AM SHE WAS STARTED BY PUBLIC EDUCATION.
09:20:57AM GETTING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
09:20:59AM THE JUNIOR FIRE PROGRAM.
09:21:01AM AND ARSON TASK FORCE AND STUFF.
09:21:03AM AND WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.
09:21:06AM BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY TOO, SHE IS HELPING PEOPLE.
09:21:10AM WE HAD THE CAMP, TOOK KIDS WITH TRAGEDY IN THEIR LIFE BY
09:21:14AM BEING BURNED AND, OF COURSE, BEING SHELTERED AND NOT KNOWING
09:21:19AM IF ANYONE CARED TO PUT THEM IN AN ENVIRONMENT TO SHOW THEM
09:21:23AM THAT, HEY, YOU ARE LOVED AS WELL AND PUT THEM IN THE
09:21:26AM COMMUNITY AS NORMAL CITIZENS.
09:21:28AM MISS WRIGHT IS WELL DESERVING OF THIS AWARD.
09:21:32AM IT IS LONG OVERDUE.
09:21:35AM WHAT IS INTERESTING WHEN I REACHED OUT MISS WRIGHT ABOUT 45
09:21:42AM YEARS.
09:21:42AM GOT HIRED JUNE 5, 1978.
09:21:46AM THE MAYOR SWORE ME IN JUNE 5, 2021.
09:21:50AM A COINCIDENCE.
09:21:52AM NOT KNOWING WHEN SHE GOT HIRED.
09:21:54AM THAT BEING SAID, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH.
09:21:57AM I HAVE ANOTHER FEMALE HERE.
09:22:00AM MISS WRIGHT HAVE PAVED THE WAY FOR US TO CONTINUE IN HER
09:22:04AM LEGACY.
09:22:04AM YOU WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN.
09:22:06AM I APPRECIATE YOU.
09:22:07AM [APPLAUSE]
09:22:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, CHIEF, FOR YOUR VERY ELOQUENT AND
09:22:14AM THOUGHTFUL WORDS.
09:22:16AM IF 754 WANTS TO COME UP AND SAY SOMETHING, YOU MAY.
09:22:20AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
09:22:21AM GOOD MORNING, CITY STAFF.
09:22:23AM AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, GOOD MORNING TO MISS WRIGHT AND HER
09:22:26AM FAMILY.
09:22:26AM WE ARE VERY THANKFUL FOR MISS WRIGHT AND THE ROAD THAT SHI
09:22:32AM PAVED.
09:22:32AM CHIEF TOUCHED ON A LOT AND VERY SPOT-ON WITH HER SPEECH.
09:22:36AM ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA FIRE
09:22:39AM FIGHTERS THE STRENGTH AND COURAGE THAT MISS WRIGHT HAD AND
09:22:42AM THE STRENGTH AND COURAGE THAT CHIEF TRIPP HAS.
09:22:45AM CHIEF TRIPP IS HERE DUE TO YOUR STRENGTH AND COURAGE AND ON
09:22:50AM BEHALF OF TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
09:22:52AM WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THIS WITH ALL DUE RESPECT ON BEHALF
09:22:57AM OF THE TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:23:00AM [APPLAUSE]
09:23:05AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:23:06AM JEREMY FINNEY, THE TREASURER FOR LOCAL 754.
09:23:10AM I DID WANT TO POINT OUT IF MOST OF YOU DID NOT KNOW, I AM
09:23:13AM FIRST IN MY FAMILY TO BE FIRE AND/OR EMS AND MY MOM RETIRED
09:23:20AM FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FIRE 30 YEARS OF SERVICE AND THAT
09:23:22AM MIGHT NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THE COURAGE OF MISS WRIGHT.
09:23:25AM I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT AS WELL.
09:23:27AM THAT YOU MADE THAT PATH NOT ONLY FOR PEOPLE HERE IN TAMPA,
09:23:31AM COUNTY AND BEYOND.
09:23:32AM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH
09:23:33AM [APPLAUSE]
09:23:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYBODY ELSE THAT CAME HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS?
09:23:42AM JUST MAKING SURE.
09:23:43AM OKAY, GREAT.
09:23:44AM SO BEFORE, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANTED TO GO THROUGH
09:23:48AM THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT MECHY GAVE US.
09:23:51AM THIS IS ONE OF HER YOUNGER -- THAT IS THE CALENDAR --
09:23:56AM [LAUGHTER] --
09:23:56AM >> WE DID A FUNDRAISER FOR MARCH OF DIMES.
09:23:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: MARCH OF DIMES.
09:24:01AM >> THEY WANTED US IN, LIKE, GIRLIE GIRL THINGS.
09:24:04AM THAT IS AS GIRLIE AS I AM GOING TO GET.
09:24:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS AWESOME.
09:24:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS AWESOME.
09:24:11AM THERE SHE IS AGAIN.
09:24:13AM >> WHEN I WAS A PUBLIC EDUCATION OFFICER.
09:24:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS FOR THE MARCH OF DIMES, I ASSUME?
09:24:21AM [LAUGHTER]
09:24:23AM AND THIS IS -- I BELIEVE WITH YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW.
09:24:26AM >> MY BROTHER-IN-LAW, YES.
09:24:29AM WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL.
09:24:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: GOD BLESS HIM.
09:24:31AM IF I MAY ON BEHALF OF A VERY GRATEFUL TAMPA CITY COUNCIL,
09:24:35AM OUR GREAT PLEASURE, MADAM, TO GIVE YOU THE CITY COUNCIL
09:24:39AM COMMENDATION
09:24:40AM [APPLAUSE]
09:24:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY MOTHER SAW YOU WERE GETTING HONORED
09:24:54AM TODAY AND SAID THAT IS A POWERFUL WOMAN AND TOLD ME TO
09:24:57AM CONGRATULATE YOU.
09:24:59AM SHE CAME FROM CUBA IN 1961.
09:25:04AM COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE YOU AND SIMILAR STORY BUT VERY
09:25:08AM IMPRESSED YOU AND YOUR CAREER.
09:25:09AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:25:10AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:25:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
09:25:13AM I SIT HERE AND I LISTEN.
09:25:15AM AND WHEN YOU LEAD THE TRAIL LIKE YOU DID, THERE IS BLAZING
09:25:19AM FIRES ALL OVER YOU.
09:25:20AM BECAUSE IF WASN'T FOR YOU, THAT TRAIL MAY HAVE BEEN DELAYED
09:25:24AM FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
09:25:25AM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILMEMBER VIERA SAID, BUT
09:25:29AM WITHIN YOU, IT TOOK A STEP OF BOLDNESS THAT MANY OF US DON'T
09:25:34AM HAVE.
09:25:34AM THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO.
09:25:36AM HAND THIS IS HOW I AM GOING TO ATTAIN IT.
09:25:38AM THE WORDS FIREMAN EXISTS BUT FIREWOMAN DOES NOT EXIST
09:25:54AM TRANSLATE FROM ENGLISH TO SPANISH.
09:25:56AM WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS YOU LED SOMETHING AT THE TIME YOU
09:25:59AM WERE DOING WAS NOT VERY POPULAR AT ALL.
09:26:02AM >> YOU KNOW, YOU WERE HERE.
09:26:03AM [LAUGHTER]
09:26:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SHOW COMING BACK.
09:26:15AM MAYBE YOU CAN SAY SOME JOKES THERE.
09:26:18AM BUT I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
09:26:20AM YOUR FAMILY AND WITH MISS WRIGHT, WE CAN'T GO WRONG.
09:26:24AM >> THERE YOU GO.
09:26:25AM THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS SAY, WHEN THERE ARE TWO WRIGHTS, YOU
09:26:29AM CAN'T GO WRONG.
09:26:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AN HONOR TO HAVE SOMEONE LIKE YOU WHO LED
09:26:34AM THE TRAIL AND MADE SURE THAT THE PATH WAS LAID DOWN FOR
09:26:38AM SOMEONE ELSE TO FOLLOW.
09:26:39AM BECAUSE OF YOU SO MANY WOMEN -- YOUNG WOMEN OF ALL AGES HAVE
09:26:43AM THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO BEFORE THAT TIME IT WAS VERY, VERY,
09:26:47AM VERY DIFFICULT TO DO.
09:26:48AM WE EXPLICITLY SAY THANK YOU FOR LEADING THE TRAIL.
09:26:51AM THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO OPEN THE DOORS,
09:26:54AM AND NOT SHUT THEM.
09:26:55AM OPEN THE DOORS FOR MANY, MANY INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE THE
09:26:58AM OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU CREATED FOR THEM.
09:27:00AM >> GRACIAS.
09:27:04AM THANK YOU.
09:27:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING, MISS WRIGHT.
09:27:07AM I LOVE GIRL POWER STORIES AND THANK YOU BARBARA TRIPP AS THE
09:27:11AM FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN CHIEF.
09:27:13AM YOU FIRST CUBAN FIRE FIGHTER.
09:27:15AM THAT IS HISTORY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT EVERY SINGLE GIRL
09:27:18AM CAN GET BEHIND AND KNOW THAT THEY HAVE A DREAM THAT CAN COME
09:27:22AM TRUE.
09:27:22AM I REALLY LOVE THE STORY.
09:27:23AM I LOVE THE PHOTOS.
09:27:25AM AND I CAN JUST REALLY SEE YOU BEING AN INSPIRATION BECAUSE
09:27:30AM WE SHARE THIS STORY.
09:27:31AM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR
09:27:34AM COMMENDATION.
09:27:35AM >> THANK YOU.
09:27:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING.
09:27:37AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:27:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ALSO BELIEVE THAT CHARLIE WAS THERE WHEN
09:27:41AM THE FIRST FIRE WAS SET.
09:27:43AM >> MAYBE HE DID IT?
09:27:46AM [LAUGHTER]
09:27:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HE PROBABLY DID.
09:27:47AM AND HE CONTINUES TO SET FIRES.
09:27:49AM THERE WE GO.
09:27:49AM YOU KNOW, THERE IS SO FEW FIRSTS IN THIS WORLD ANYMORE AND
09:27:55AM WE CELEBRATE THOSE FIRSTS.
09:27:56AM I THINK THE MOST INCREDIBLE THING ABOUT THIS STORY IS, THIS
09:27:59AM IS NOT ANCIENT HISTORY, THERE ARE IS RECENT HISTORY.
09:28:02AM SO -- IT IS SO AMAZING THAT IN WORLD, YOU KNOW, CONTINUES TO
09:28:07AM EVOLVE.
09:28:08AM AND WE ARE LUCKY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY
09:28:11AM THAT VALUES DIVERSITY AND EVERY ASPECT OF DIVERSITY.
09:28:14AM BUT I THINK THAT IT IS ALSO A SIGNAL THAT THIS IS RECENT
09:28:18AM HISTORY.
09:28:18AM AND I THINK YOUR STORY SETS A TONE THAT WE AS GUARDIANS OF
09:28:24AM THE CITY AND LEADERS IN THE CITY NEED TO CONSTANTLY BE AWARE
09:28:27AM THAT YOU CAN'T TURN THOSE -- TURN BACK.
09:28:29AM YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO PUSH FORWARD FOR
09:28:32AM REPRESENTATION AT EVERY LEVEL OF OUR -- OF OUR CITY AND
09:28:36AM SOCIETY.
09:28:36AM AND I -- I ADMIRE YOU FOR BEING THE TRAILBLAZER.
09:28:40AM I KNOW IT WAS A CHALLENGE.
09:28:41AM AND I CAME FROM A PREDOMINANTLY MALE WORKFORCE AS WELL IN
09:28:46AM THE BEGINNING AND HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY DIVERSIFIED AND I KNOW
09:28:51AM WHAT IT WAS LIKE FOR LIKE YOU TO BE TRAILBLAZERS AND APPLAUD
09:28:56AM YOU FOR THAT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
09:28:59AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
09:29:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO WELCOME YOU PERSONALLY.
09:29:04AM I WAS BORN A YEAR BEFORE THAT AND MY MOTHER -- READ THE
09:29:07AM PAPER.
09:29:08AM I KNOW THAT -- NOT AT ONE, BUT KNOWING THAT WOMEN IN OUR
09:29:11AM CITY WERE DOING THESE KIND OF ACTIVITIES.
09:29:13AM SHE ALWAYS LOVED TO TELL ME THAT I COULD BE ANYTHING.
09:29:18AM AND I THINK JUST YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT HERSELF IN
09:29:22AM THE LATE '70s WITH A YOUNG DAUGHTER AND JUST BEING ABLE TO
09:29:26AM SHARE THAT.
09:29:29AM MAYBE THAT IS WHERE SHE GOT THE INSPIRATION AFTER SEEING IT
09:29:32AM IN THE PAPER.
09:29:32AM SHE WAS ALWAYS TELLING ME ABOUT WOMEN WHO WERE TRAILBLAZERS
09:29:37AM IN WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
09:29:38AM I WANT TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY FOR THAT.
09:29:39AM BECAUSE I AM SURE YOU DID HAVE AN IMPACT ON MY LIFE.
09:29:43AM BUT JUST THE IMPACT ON SO MANY OTHER YOUNG WOMEN'S LIVES.
09:29:47AM JUST BEING ABLE TO SEE AS WE OFTEN SAY, YOU KNOW, BEING UP
09:29:54AM -- YOU KNOW, KIDS BEING ABLE TO SEE THEMSELVES IN ROLES THEY
09:29:57AM WOULDN'T HAVE THE CHANCE TO JUST LIKE WE HAVE THE FIRST
09:30:00AM AFRICAN-AMERICAN FIRE CHIEF.
09:30:02AM NOW YOUNG WOMEN CAN LOOK UP AND SAY, OH, I COULD BE FIRE
09:30:06AM CHIEF.
09:30:07AM NOT JUST A FIRE FIGHTER BUT LITERALLY A FIRE CHIEF.
09:30:10AM AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY POWERFUL AND REALLY IMPORTANT.
09:30:13AM AND LIKE YOU -- YOU SORT OF SAID, WELL, KIND OF
09:30:17AM COMPARTMENTALIZE THAT PART OF MY LIFE AND I HAVEN'T THOUGHT
09:30:20AM ABOUT IT FOR A WHILE.
09:30:21AM BUT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE.
09:30:22AM AND YOU HAVE HELPED CREATE THE STORY FOR SO MANY OTHER --
09:30:26AM OTHER WOMEN.
09:30:27AM AND OTHER CHILDREN, EVERYONE.
09:30:29AM BUT, YOU KNOW, I AM FOCUSING ON WOMEN HERE AT THIS POINT AND
09:30:33AM YOUNG GIRLS.
09:30:34AM SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU BECAUSE THE -- THE LATE
09:30:39AM '.0s, '80s WERE DEFINITELY A TRICKY TIME FOR WOMEN AND A LOT
09:30:43AM OF TRAIL BLAZING.
09:30:44AM I KNOW YOU WENT THROUGH A LOT.
09:30:46AM AND I WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT YOUR SACRIFICES AND EVERYTHING
09:30:50AM YOU WENT THROUGH, WE THANK YOU FOR THAT.
09:30:53AM I HESITATE TO SAYS IT WORTH IT, BUT WHEN YOU GO THROUGH, IT
09:30:59AM IS REALLY HARD.
09:30:59AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:31:01AM WE OWE YOU A GREAT DEBT.
09:31:03AM >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
09:31:04AM I THINK IT WAS WORTH IT.
09:31:06AM YOU KNOW THERE ARE TIMES PEOPLE REQUEST, WELL, DO YOU REGRET
09:31:10AM OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW -- MY 20 YEARS I HAD SOME
09:31:14AM FABULOUS TIMES.
09:31:15AM SOME GREAT TIMES.
09:31:16AM I HAD SOME REALLY DARK TIMES.
09:31:18AM SO I FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE.
09:31:21AM AND, YOU KNOW, I NEVER CONSIDER MYSELF A TRAILBLAZER.
09:31:27AM IMPLORE OF A SURVIVOR.
09:31:28AM SO IT WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I GOT PUSHED DOWN OR BACK, I
09:31:32AM JUST CAME BACK STRONGER.
09:31:34AM AND I FEEL THAT IS JUST THE KIND OF PERSON I AM.
09:31:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:31:38AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
09:31:39AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.
09:31:42AM THANK YOU FOR CHIEF TRIPP AND COUNCILMEMBER VIERA BRINGING
09:31:46AM YOUR STORY FORWARD.
09:31:47AM AN HONOR TO HEAR YOUR STORY.
09:31:49AM IT IS VERY INSPIRING TODAY.
09:31:50AM AND LIKE MY COLLEAGUES SAID, IT IS REALLY SURPRISING THAT --
09:31:56AM THAT -- THAT FIRST HAPPENED IN MY LIFETIME.
09:31:59AM MY KIDS ARE IN GEN-Z AND GENERATIONAL IF A WHICH IS THE NEXT
09:32:04AM ONE BEHIND THAT.
09:32:05AM I WILL GO HOME AND TELL THEM YOUR STORY TONIGHT.
09:32:08AM I THINK THEY WILL BE SHOCKED WHEN I WAS YOUR AGE WE HAD OUR
09:32:12AM FIRST FEMALE FIRE FIGHTER.
09:32:13AM THANK YOU FOR SETTING FIRSTS.
09:32:15AM SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE SETTING FIRSTS NOW.
09:32:17AM LET'S KEEP MOVING FORWARD SO EVERYBODY IS REPRESENTED WELL.
09:32:21AM IF YOU NEED A THIRD CAREER OR FOURTH OR WHEREVER YOU ARE,
09:32:24AM WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU COME HERE SOMEWHERE TO SPAR WITH
09:32:29AM CHARLIE MIRANDA EVERY DAY.
09:32:31AM >> I BET WE WILL REALLY HAVE SOME GREAT FUN TIMES.
09:32:33AM AFTER I GRADUATED FROM BEHAVIORAL ANALYST, SOME PEOPLE WERE
09:32:38AM JOKING WITH ME THAT WHY DIDN'T I COME BACK TO THE FIRE
09:32:42AM DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, AS A CIVILIAN AND DO SOME BEHAVIORAL
09:32:46AM ANALYST AND HELP PEOPLE OUT THAT NEEDED SOME BEHAVIOR
09:32:49AM CHANGES.
09:32:49AM SO I DIDN'T DO THAT.
09:32:50AM BUT, YEAH, IT WAS -- IT WAS GREAT.
09:32:54AM THANK YOU.
09:32:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:32:58AM ALL RIGHT.
09:32:59AM [ APPLAUSE ]
09:33:18AM NEXT UP, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:33:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY ARE STILL GOING TO BE DOING PHOTOS.
09:33:29AM DO WE WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT ONE AND COME BACK.
09:33:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MY FRIEND, A HARD ACT TO FOLLOW.
09:33:35AM BUT COUNCILMAN VIERA DOES IT VERY WELL.
09:33:39AM BUT HERE TO HONOR AN INDIVIDUAL 26 YEARS WITH THE FIT.
09:33:43AM STARTED OFF LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN THE DEPARTMENT AND WORE
09:33:46AM THE HOTS OF FIRE FIGHTERS, PARAMEDICS AND SHIFT COMMANDER,
09:33:51AM PERSONNEL CHIEF AND CHIEF OF OPERATIONS.
09:33:53AM ANYONE ELSE I MISSED.
09:33:54AM >> CAPTAIN, DRIVE ENGINEER?
09:33:58AM [LAUGHTER]
09:34:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SEE WHAT I MEAN.
09:34:02AM HE DOESN'T FORGET EVERYTHING.
09:34:05AM I DID NOT.
09:34:07AM IT WAS YOUR SHOW.
09:34:09AM BUT YOU HAVE BEEN INSPIRATION LIKE THE LADY WE JUST SAW,
09:34:15AM MISS WRIGHT, AS A HISPANIC WOMAN HAD TO GO THROUGH HOOPS.
09:34:19AM YOU YOURSELF I KNOW SOMETIMES BACK, 30 YEARS, 40 YEARS AGO,
09:34:24AM IT WAS KIND OF HARD FOR US TO GO OFF THE RANCH LIKE YOU HAD.
09:34:28AM WE ARE HONORED AND YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
09:34:31AM YOU DID EVERYTHING YOU WERE ASKED TO DO.
09:34:33AM YOU GOT A PROMOTION.
09:34:35AM YOU MADE IT TO WHERE YOU ARE AT NOW.
09:34:37AM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THERE IS A NEIGHBORING COUNTY CALLED,
09:34:41AM WHAT IN PASCO COUNTY.
09:34:44AM >> PASCO COUNTY FIRE RESCUE, YES.
09:34:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FOR MANY YEARS WE USED TO TAKE -- TO TRY
09:34:53AM TO GET EVEN WITH US BY HIRING YOU.
09:34:55AM BUT YOU EARNED EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
09:34:57AM YOU ARE GOING INTO AN AREA THAT IS VERY GROWING LIKE THE
09:35:01AM CITY OF TAMPA AND I KNOW THE COMMISSIONERS THERE AS WELL.
09:35:03AM AND TAMPA BAY WATER, I AM SURE THAT WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO
09:35:06AM THERE IS SET THE STANDARD FOR A NEW BEGINNING FOR PASCO
09:35:10AM COUNTY WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU HAVE AND SO MANY
09:35:18AM DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU WORK IN.
09:35:19AM A MARVELOUS JOB.
09:35:21AM WE WISH YOU THE BEST.
09:35:22AM WE HATE TO SEE YOU LEAVE.
09:35:24AM BUT DECISIONS IN LIFE TO MAKE A STEP FORWARD AND GO FORWARD
09:35:28AM WITH THAT PERSONALITY THAT YOU HAVE AND THAT HAIRCUT THAT
09:35:31AM YOU HAVE.
09:35:31AM YOU KNOW, TWO BALD GUYS TOGETHER DON'T LOOK THAT GOOD ON TV.
09:35:36AM >> THAT IS WHAT THEY SAY.
09:35:38AM [LAUGHTER]
09:35:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST TO MAKE THINGS ON A SERIOUS SIDE, MY
09:35:42AM HONOR, CITY COUNCIL'S HONOR AND THE CITY OF TAMPA'S HONOR TO
09:35:47AM HAVE YOU STAND BEFORE US AND WHAT YOU DID FOR THE CITY OF
09:35:51AM TAMPA FOR 26 YEARS AND NOT ONLY THAT, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO A
09:35:54AM HIGHER LEVEL.
09:35:54AM WE WISH YOU THE BEST.
09:35:55AM A GREAT GUY.
09:35:56AM I HAVE KNOWN YOU FOR MANY YEARS.
09:35:58AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR FAMILY AND ALL THE 26 YEARS OF
09:36:01AM EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
09:36:03AM YOU KNOW, WHEN THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND YOU ARE SICK OR YOU
09:36:05AM NEED RESCUE TO COME TO YOUR HOUSE OR A FIRE, WHEN YOU SEE
09:36:09AM THE MEN IN BLUE COMING IN DRESSED WITH --
09:36:14AM THAT IS -- YOU DON'T FEEL AS BAD AS YOU DID BEFORE,
09:36:19AM ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE SICK IN BED AND YOU GOT TO COME DO --
09:36:21AM WHEN YOU SEE A FIRE RESCUE PERSON -- NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE
09:36:25AM AT IN THIS COUNTRY, YOU SEE 50% BETTER JUST TO SEE THAT THEY
09:36:29AM ARE THERE.
09:36:29AM WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR LETTING
09:36:32AM YOU DO WHAT YOU DID FOR MANY YEARS.
09:36:34AM CONGRATULATIONS, MY PLEASURE.
09:36:37AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:36:39AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
09:36:47AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME MERE.
09:36:49AM AN HONOR AND BLESSING TO STAND BEFORE EACH AND EVERY ONE OF
09:36:53AM THEM.
09:36:53AM WHAT COUNCIL MIRANDA FORGOT TO SPEAK I USED TO STRIKE HIM
09:36:58AM OUT IN COURT BALL.
09:37:02AM RANDOMLY STOP BY THE FIREHOUSE WITH ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL AND
09:37:07AM PLAY COURT BALL.
09:37:08AM HE HAD A MEAN PITCH AND MEAN STYLE.
09:37:13AM WE HAD A GREAT TIME.
09:37:14AM I APPRECIATE IT.
09:37:17AM THANK THE FIRE CHIEF BOTTO TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA,
09:37:22AM TO WORK FOR FIRE RESCUE, TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT WITHIN
09:37:25AM THE COMMUNITY, WITHIN RANK AND FILE.
09:37:29AM COMING BACK HERE, I REALIZE THAT I DID DO IT RIGHT.
09:37:32AM I AM THANKFUL BECAUSE I MADE SO MANY GREAT RELATIONSHIPS
09:37:37AM THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
09:37:38AM AND I KNOW I HAVE IMPACTED A LOT OF FIRE FIGHTERS FROM SHIFT
09:37:46AM COMMANDER.
09:37:47AM MANY OF US I TAUGHT IN FIRE ACADEMY.
09:37:50AM MANY I TAUGHT THROUGH LEADERSHIP CLASSES.
09:37:52AM A LOT THROUGH COMPANY OFFICER CLASSES.
09:37:55AM IT'S A BLESSING.
09:37:56AM AND I THANK YOU FOR HONORING ME HERE TODAY.
09:37:59AM A BLESSING I ALSO WANT TO SHOW SUPPORT AND THANK FOR LOCAL
09:38:03AM 754 FOR ALWAYS HAVING TO SUPPORT MY BACK.
09:38:06AM JUST AS I WAS A YOUNG FIRE FIGHTER MOVING UP THE RANKS.
09:38:09AM SOME OF THEM I TAUGHT IN THE FIRE ACADEMY.
09:38:11AM LOOK AT THEM NOW.
09:38:12AM THE MOVERS, SHAKERS AND LEADERS OF THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT IN
09:38:17AM THE CITY.
09:38:17AM I WANT TO THANK YOU.
09:38:19AM THANK YOU AGAIN.
09:38:20AM THANK YOU TO MY WIFE.
09:38:21AM THANK TO MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
09:38:24AM WITHOUT THEM I COULDN'T BE HERE BECAUSE A FAMILY IS THE
09:38:28AM SUPPORT SYSTEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND DO THIS JOB AND SERVE
09:38:31AM THE COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT IS POSITIVE AND IMPACTFUL, THANK
09:38:34AM YOU.
09:38:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE 754 HAVE WORDS TO SAY ABOUT YOU, BUT
09:38:38AM BEFORE THEY COME UP, I DON'T LIKE TO MISS A CHANCE OR A
09:38:41AM CHALLENGE.
09:38:42AM >> I KNEW IT!
09:38:44AM I KNEW IT!
09:38:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHEN I SEE A GUY THIS SIZE WITH THIS SIZE
09:38:49AM AND ONE THIS AGE AND THAT AGE.
09:38:51AM I AM GOING TO BE 83.
09:38:54AM HOW OLD WILL YOU BE?
09:38:56AM >> 52.
09:38:56AM >> ANY TIME YOU WANT, YOU AND PARDO, THE BIG GUY WITH THE
09:39:01AM BIG MOUTH I WANT BOTH OF YOU.
09:39:03AM AND ALL OF YOU -- THE GUY BEHIND YOU CHALLENGING ME THAT YOU
09:39:06AM WILL NOT BEAT ME IN COURT BALL.
09:39:08AM >> OKAY.
09:39:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL GIVE UP EVERY HIT YOU -- I WILL
09:39:13AM GIVE $50 IN DONATION TO BEHAVIOR CHARITY YOU WANT.
09:39:16AM >> YOU GOT IT.
09:39:19AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:39:20AM THANK YOU.
09:39:20AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, CITY STAFF AND EVERYONE IN THE
09:39:24AM ROOM.
09:39:24AM ON BEHALF OF TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS LOCAL 754, THIS IS TRULY A
09:39:29AM LOSSES TO OUR DEPARTMENT, A LOSS TO OUR MEMBERSHIP WHAT
09:39:33AM CHIEF PEREZ SAID IS SPOT ON.
09:39:35AM HE TAUGHT ME.
09:39:36AM HE TAUGHT ALONGSIDE SOME OF THE OTHERS ALONG THE WALL IN
09:39:41AM UNION LEADERSHIP.
09:39:42AM 32 CLASSES I THINK I TOOK UNDER CHIEF PEREZ.
09:39:45AM I WORE BUMBLEBEE SOCKS IN THE ACADEMY AND THAT WAS MY
09:39:51AM NICKNAME.
09:39:51AM THEY CALLED ME BUMBLEBEE.
09:39:53AM HE TOLD US TO RUN, HE WOULD RUN BEHIND US AND RUN IN FRONT
09:39:56AM OF US AND RUN AROUND US.
09:39:58AM YOU BETTER CATCH HIM.
09:39:59AM ALL THE WAY UP 34th, DOWN 60th THROUGH THE PARK AND YOU
09:40:04AM BETTER MAKE IT BACK TO THE ACADEMY.
09:40:05AM ON BEHALF OF THE FIRE FIGHTERS OF LOCAL 754, A TRUE LOSS.
09:40:09AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING HIM GROW IN PASCO COUNTY AS HE
09:40:13AM WILL.
09:40:13AM I KNOW IT IS MORE THAN JUST A JOB FOR US.
09:40:16AM IT IS A FAMILY.
09:40:17AM IT IS A CALLING.
09:40:18AM AND WHAT CHIEF PEREZ INSTILLED IN US THE BROTHERHOOD AND
09:40:22AM PRIDE AND PASSION OF STATION 7 AND 11.
09:40:25AM AND OPEN 24-7.
09:40:27AM HAPPY TO SEE YOU.
09:40:30AM UNFORTUNATE TO SEE YOU ARE LEAVING BUT HAPPY FOR YOU TO DO
09:40:33AM GREAT THINGS.
09:40:34AM >> APPRECIATE IT, SIR.
09:40:36AM THANK YOU.
09:40:36AM [APPLAUSE]
09:40:39AM >> I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM ANY OTHERS.
09:40:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CHIEF JOHN BENNETT WOULD LIKE TO SAY A
09:40:47AM FEW WORDS ON BEHALF OF HAD PRESENTATION.
09:40:51AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF
09:40:54AM AND TO THE PUBLIC.
09:40:55AM TONY FOR TEN YEARS WORKED ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF POLICE AND
09:41:00AM FIRE SUPPORTING WHAT IS CALLED BADGES WITH CANCER.
09:41:05AM THESE ARE THE SIDES THEY DON'T SEE FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY
09:41:09AM FOLKS VERY OFTEN.
09:41:10AM FOR TEN YEARS, WE PLAYED A FOOTBALL TEAM AND ALL THE
09:41:13AM PROCEEDS FOR THOSE CHILDREN TO HAVE THE MEDICAL SERVICES,
09:41:16AM THE LOGISTIC SERVICES FOR THE FAMILY AND I WANT TO THANK HIM
09:41:20AM FOR THAT PART HE DID OVER AND ABOVE HIS NORMAL JOB.
09:41:23AM THANK YOU.
09:41:24AM >> APPRECIATE IT.
09:41:25AM THANK YOU.
09:41:26AM [ APPLAUSE ]
09:41:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AGAIN, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
09:41:29AM OUR LOSS IS A GAIN OF PASCO COUNTY AND THIS HE A GOOD ONE.
09:41:33AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR ALLOWING THEM TO
09:41:36AM DO WHAT YOU DO BECAUSE TAKES PARTNERSHIPS ALL AROUND THE
09:41:39AM WORLD.
09:41:40AM >> GRACIAS HERMANO.
09:41:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT.
09:41:49AM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE CALLED ME TO SAY WHAT A HUGE
09:41:52AM LOSS THIS IS.
09:41:53AM EVERYBODY SPOKE SO HIGHLY OF YOU, LIKE EVERYBODY DOES.
09:41:56AM YOU ARE TREMENDOUSLY RESPECTED.
09:41:58AM OUR LOSS IS PASCO'S GAIN.
09:42:02AM WE HATE TO SEE YOU GO.
09:42:03AM YOU HAVE LEFT QUITE A LEGACY.
09:42:05AM NEVER HEARD ANYTHING BAD ABOUT YOU.
09:42:07AM IT WAS ALWAYS WITH THE UPMOST RESPECT.
09:42:11AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:42:13AM WE WISH YOU ALL THE BEST.
09:42:15AM YOU WILL BE MISSED.
09:42:16AM AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME AND SAID TODAY.
09:42:19AM CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
09:42:20AM >> APPRECIATE IT.
09:42:21AM THANK YOU.
09:42:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:42:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: CONGRATULATIONS TO PASCO COUNTY.
09:42:30AM SAD FOR US.
09:42:30AM ANY THOUGHTS AND IDEAS AS YOU GET FARTHER AWAY AND IF YOU
09:42:36AM KNOW HOW YOU CAN IMPROVE THE SITUATION FOR YOUR COLLEAGUES,
09:42:39AM STUDENTS AND EVEN BUMBLEBEE.
09:42:41AM WE CAN -- [LAUGHTER] -- WE ARE HAPPY TO HEAR THEM AND HELP
09:42:44AM IMPROVE THE SITUATION AND MAKE SURE OUR TEAM RUNS AS WELL.
09:42:47AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:42:49AM >> APPRECIATE IT.
09:42:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS BITTERSWEET, BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE
09:42:54AM ONCE SAID TO ME, IT IS GREAT THAT YOU ARE TAKING THE VALUES
09:42:58AM YOU LEARNED HERE AND YOU ARE SPREADING THEM.
09:43:00AM SO I AM -- WE ARE GOING TO MISS YOU, BUT I AM ACTUALLY
09:43:05AM REALLY EXCITEd THAT YOU ARE GOING TO BRING THE VALUES AND
09:43:09AM OBVIOUSLY ALL OF THE WORK AND ALL OF YOUR EXPERIENCE TO HELP
09:43:14AM A WHOLE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT THAT IS SERIOUSLY GROWING.
09:43:17AM YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP REALLY SET A FOUNDATION.
09:43:22AM NOT THAT THEY DON'T ALREADY HAVE A BEGINNING, BUT THEY ARE
09:43:25AM GROWING SO RAPIDLY.
09:43:26AM YOU ARE GOING TO BE THE ONE TO HELP SET THAT FOUNDATION.
09:43:30AM I HONESTLY CAN'T THINK OF A MORE WORTHY PERSON.
09:43:33AM SO YOU ARE NOT GOING THAT FAR.
09:43:35AM I MEAN -- I AM SURE LOCAL 754 WON'T LET YOU GO TOO FAR.
09:43:40AM AND I KNOW YOU WILL KEEP IN TOUCH WITH RUN IS AND LIKE
09:43:44AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALL LEARN FROM
09:43:47AM EACH OTHER.
09:43:47AM I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS GREAT ABOUT --
09:43:52AM ABOUT THE WEB THAT WE CREATE THROUGH OUR LIVES.
09:43:55AM SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PART IN CREATING THE
09:44:01AM STRONG WEB WE HAVE HERE.
09:44:02AM AND I AM REALLY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT YOU DO OUTSIDE AND
09:44:06AM ELSEWHERE THAT BRING WHAT YOU LEARNED AND HOW YOU DEVELOPED
09:44:08AM TO OTHER AREAS.
09:44:09AM SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND CONGRATULATIONS AND I
09:44:13AM KNOW YOU ARE DO WONDERFUL THINGS THERE.
09:44:15AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
09:44:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING.
09:44:21AM CHARLIE MIRANDA IS CORRECT.
09:44:23AM TWO BALD GUYS ON TV DOESN'T LOOK GREAT.
09:44:27AM BUT A THIRD, THAT LOOK MARVELOUS.
09:44:29AM [LAUGHTER]
09:44:31AM OBVIOUSLY YOU HAD A STELLAR CAREER AND LIKE FORWARD TO WHAT
09:44:34AM YOU ARE DOING IN PASCO COUNTY.
09:44:36AM I WANT TO CALL OUT THAT YOU ACKNOWLEDGE 754 AND THE FOLKS IN
09:44:41AM THE TRUCKS AND THE FOLKS DOING THE WORK EVERY DAY.
09:44:43AM AS YOU MOVE ON, YOU KNOW, IN THIS MANAGERIAL ROLE IN PASCO
09:44:49AM COUNTY, YOU WILL BRING BACK THOSE ROOTS TO REALIZE YOU NEED
09:44:53AM A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FOLKS DOING THE WORK AND YOU CAN'T
09:44:55AM HAVE A SUCCESSFUL TEAM WITHOUT THAT PARTNERSHIP.
09:44:57AM I AM GLAD YOU HAVE THAT LESSON.
09:44:59AM AND BUMBLEBEE WILL LIVE IN MY HEAD FOREVER.
09:45:05AM EVERY MESSAGE -- YOU SHOULD NOT -- YOU SHOULD HAVE NOT HAD
09:45:09AM SAID THAT.
09:45:09AM BUMBLEBEE WILL LIVE FOREVER.
09:45:12AM THERE YOU GO.
09:45:12AM >> I APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU.
09:45:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
09:45:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CHIEF TRIPP IS.
09:45:21AM THE ROOM WHICH I FIND THAT INTERESTING.
09:45:23AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU GOING TO PASCO COUNTY.
09:45:29AM I WISH YOU WELL.
09:45:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK ABOUT YOU.
09:45:32AM AND YOU ALWAYS HEAR YOUR NAME AND A STELLAR REPUTATION WHERE
09:45:36AM PEOPLE GO -- CHIEF PEREZ IS A GOOD MAN.
09:45:38AM LIKE NICK SAID, THAT IN TRAINING, YOU WERE THERE RUNNING
09:45:43AM BEHIND -- YOU WERE RUNNING --
09:45:45AM NOT JUST GIVING ORDERS LIKE A LOT IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS
09:45:50AM WERE DOING.
09:45:50AM YOU ARE A STAKEHOLDER IN PRESIDENT MEN AND WOMEN YOU ARE
09:45:53AM TRAINING WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT.
09:45:54AM I THINK THE REAL WORLD THAT WE CAN DERIVE FROM ALL OF THIS
09:45:57AM IS CHARACTER, WHICH IS YOU HAVE A REPUTATION BASED ON
09:46:01AM CHARACTER, WHICH IS UNIVERSALLY KNOWN.
09:46:04AM AND I THINK THAT IS THE THING WE SEE HERE TODAY WHICH IS
09:46:07AM CHARACTER.
09:46:07AM A BIG LOSS.
09:46:08AM I KNOW -- I AM IN HUNTER'S GREEN.
09:46:11AM I AM NOT FAR FROM PASCO COUNTY.
09:46:13AM >> MUTUAL AID.
09:46:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW THINGS IN GRAND HAMPTON IN THE CITY OF
09:46:20AM TAMPA AND WE WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER WHICH IS FUNNY ON SOME
09:46:23AM OF THOSE THINGS.
09:46:24AM BUT, AGAIN, JUST THE BEST TO YOU.
09:46:26AM WE ARE -- WE ARE SO PROUD TO HAVE HAD YOU.
09:46:29AM AND YOUR NAME WILL ALWAYS BE SYNONYMOUS WITH CHARACTER.
09:46:33AM WITH GOOD SOLID MORAL CHARACTER THAT IS ADMIRED BY
09:46:38AM EVERYBODY.
09:46:39AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:46:41AM THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
09:46:41AM [APPLAUSE]
09:46:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP WE HAVE FDOT.
09:46:53AM WE HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AS WELL.
09:46:55AM WE HAVE A TEN-MINUTE UPDATE.
09:47:09AM GO AHEAD.
09:47:10AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:47:11AM THANK YOU FOR KARA VAN ETTEN FOR THE TAMPA HEIGHTS MOBILITY
09:47:22AM CORRIDOR PROJECT.
09:47:23AM AND AUSTIN PETERSON, A SHORT UPDATE ON OUR I-275
09:47:29AM CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
09:47:30AM HE IS THE MANAGER FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
09:47:32AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING US AND I WILL PASS IT OVER TO CAROL.
09:47:35AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:47:36AM I AM KARA VAN ETTEN, PROJECT MANAGER FOR TWO OF THE PROJECTS
09:47:42AM I WILL BE DISCUSSING TODAY.
09:47:43AM DO I JUST GO NEXT FOR A SLIDE SHOW.
09:47:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE CAN GET THE POWERPOINT ON OUR
09:47:50AM SCREENS.
09:47:50AM WE CAN SEE IT AT THE TOP.
09:47:52AM >> NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:48:03AM OH, PERFECT.
09:48:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
09:48:11AM YES, MA'AM.
09:48:12AM >> IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS ADVANCED.
09:48:14AM SO THIS IS A PROJECT MAP FOR THE TWO PROJECTS THAT WILL BE
09:48:18AM ENTWINED IN IF THE PHASE GRANT.
09:48:21AM THESE PROJECTS WILL WIDEN SIDEWALKS ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE.
09:48:26AM MULTIUSE PATH ALONG THE STREET.
09:48:30AM DRAINAGE TO ADDRESS FLOODING AND IN THE FINAL CONDITION
09:48:33AM REPURPOSE A OUTSIDE LANE TO ACCOMMODATE A TRANSIT LANE.
09:48:36AM I WILL SHOW YOU IT IN THE NEXT SLIDE.
09:48:39AM THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT IS ORANGE WHICH IS IN THE
09:48:41AM SOUTHERN PORTION.
09:48:42AM IT IS ALONG TAMPA STREET FROM JACKSON STREET TO FLORIBRASKA
09:48:47AM AND ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE -- FLORIDA FROM KENNEDY BOULEVARD
09:48:53AM TO PALM AVENUE.
09:48:53AM THE PORTION NORTH OF TYLER STREET WILL BE A FULL
09:48:58AM RECONSTRUCTION, BOTH OF THE DRAINAGE AND THE ROADWAY AND
09:49:01AM SIDEWALKS FROM RIGHT-OF-WAY TO RIGHT-OF-WAY.
09:49:03AM AND THE SOUTHERN PORTION WILL BE A RESURFACE PROJECT.
09:49:07AM DESIGN IS UNDER WAY.
09:49:09AM AND CONSTRUCTION IS ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN LATE NEXT YEAR AND
09:49:13AM TAKE APPROXIMATELY THREE YEARS.
09:49:16AM THE NORTHERN PROJECT IN BLUE IS THE DESIGN CONTRACT WILL BE
09:49:20AM EXECUTING NEXT MONTH.
09:49:22AM IT IS ALONG TAMPA STREET FROM FLORIBRASKA TO DR. MARTIN
09:49:27AM LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD.
09:49:27AM AND ALONG PALM AVENUE -- AND ALONG WILL BE FROM AVENUE FROM
09:49:31AM PALM AVENUE TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD.
09:49:34AM THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS A RECONSTRUCTION OF THE DRAINAGE AND
09:49:38AM THE ROADWAY AND SIDEWALK WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
09:49:40AM WE HAVE ONGOING WITH STAKEHOLDERS UNDER FWHA FOR THE RAISE
09:49:48AM GRANT.
09:49:49AM WE COLLABORATE MONTHLY WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND HART FOR
09:49:53AM DESIGN ELEMENTS, SECTIONS, TRANSIT, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS
09:49:58AM AND ALSO ADJACENT PROJECTS.
09:49:59AM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS DOING A DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT
09:50:03AM THROUGHOUT THE CITY ROADS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY OF
09:50:07AM TAMPA CAN TIE IN OUR SYSTEM, WE ARE ADDING CONNECTION POINTS
09:50:10AM TO ALLEVIATE FLOODING ON CITY ROADS ONCE THE CITY OF TAMPA
09:50:14AM GREET THEIR DRAINAGE PROJECTS.
09:50:16AM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:50:17AM CAN WE GO BACK ONE SLIDE?
09:50:22AM YES, THANK YOU.
09:50:22AM SO THIS IS THE TYPICAL SECTIONS OF THE CORRIDOR.
09:50:26AM THE TOP THREE ARE THE IMPROVEMENTS WHICH INCLUDE THREE
09:50:33AM TRAVEL LANES AND WIDER SIDEWALKS.
09:50:35AM WE ARE ABLE TO INCREASE THE SIDEWALK WIDTH WITHIN THE
09:50:38AM RIGHT-OF-WAY BY BIKE LANES AND CURVED LINES.
09:50:40AM BICYCLES WILL BE ROUTED TO PARALLEL BIKEWAYS.
09:50:44AM BIKEWAYS OF PROJECTS THAT I WILL SPEAK ABOUT IN THE NEXT FEW
09:50:49AM SLIDES.
09:50:49AM ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE KEEPING ON-STREET PARKING ON TAMPA
09:50:53AM STREET SOUTH AND IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION.
09:50:55AM AND THEN THE FINAL CONFIGURATION SHOWN ON THE BOTTOM THREE
09:51:00AM WILL CONVERT ONE OF THE TRAVEL LANES TO A FUTURE TRANSIT
09:51:05AM LANE BY REDUCING THE LANE WIDTH AND ADDING A TWO-FOOT RAISED
09:51:10AM SEPARATOR BETWEEN THE TRAVEL LANE AND THE TRANSIT LANE.
09:51:13AM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:51:15AM NEW PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS WILL BE ADDED AT FLORIDA AVENUE --
09:51:19AM ALONG FLORIDA AVENUE AT 26th AVENUE AND 7th AVENUE ON TAMPA
09:51:24AM STREET AT FORTUNE STREET, WOODLAND AVENUE AND INDIANA
09:51:29AM AVENUE, AND ON A HIGHLAND AVENUE ON CHELSEA STREET.
09:51:32AM ALSO BE CURB MODIFICATIONS.
09:51:37AM THE CURBS WILL BE BOLDED OUT TO REDUCE THE CROSSWALK WIDTH
09:51:42AM WHICH IS SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS CROSSING THE ROAD.
09:51:44AM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:51:46AM AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, WE ARE CONSTRUCTING TWO BIKEWAYS,
09:51:52AM FIRST ONE WEST OF TAMPA STREET ON OLA AVENUE, SPEED
09:51:58AM CUSHIONS, SIDEWALK UPGRADES, RAISED ISLANDS OF DELINEATION
09:52:02AM OF ON-STREET WORKING CROSSWALKS, AND LIGHTNING AT THREE
09:52:06AM LOCATIONS.
09:52:06AM DESIGN IS COMPLETE AND CONSTRUCTION BEGINNING THIS SUMMER
09:52:10AM AND WILL LAST APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR.
09:52:11AM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:52:13AM AND THE SECOND BIKEWAY IS CENTRAL AVENUE, WHICH IS JUST EAST
09:52:18AM OF FLORIDA.
09:52:19AM THE FEATURE INCLUDES SIDEWALK AND ADA, BOWLED OUTS,
09:52:25AM SIDEWALKS, WAY FINDING SIGNAGE, FLORIDA AVENUE, RECTANGULAR
09:52:32AM RAPID FLASHING BEACONS.
09:52:34AM TRAFFIC CALMING STUDIES ARE ONGOING AND DESIGN PLAN ALSO
09:52:40AM FOLLOW.
09:52:40AM CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN SUMMER, 2024.
09:52:44AM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
09:52:45AM AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SHARE THESE PROJECTS WITH YOU.
09:52:48AM I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
09:52:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:52:51AM REAL QUICK.
09:52:53AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND I ARE ON THE , AND I BELIEVE WE GOT
09:52:58AM -- WE RECEIVED A PRESENTATION SIMILAR TO THIS.
09:53:00AM AND I WILL BRIEFLY RESTATE MY COMMENTS.
09:53:04AM I TAKE TAMPA AND FLORIDA EVERY DAY.
09:53:08AM I TAKE TO TAMPA TO GET DOWNTOWN.
09:53:12AM EVEN SUNDAY MORNING WHEN I GO TO CHURCH DOWNTOWN.
09:53:15AM LESS TRAVELED AND NO TRAFFIC.
09:53:17AM PEOPLE CROSSING THE STREET HAVE TO JAYWALK.
09:53:20AM THEY HAVE NO CHOICE.
09:53:22AM THERE IS NO CROSSING.
09:53:24AM IT IS VERY DANGEROUS.
09:53:25AM YOU MENTION QUITE A FEW PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS THAT ARE
09:53:29AM NEEDED.
09:53:29AM SUNDAY MORNING AT 7:00 OR MIDDLE OF THE DAY ON MONDAY,
09:53:32AM PEOPLE ARE GETTING OFF THE BUS, AND THEY ARE TRYING TO
09:53:35AM MANEUVER THROUGH TRAFFIC TRYING TO CROSS THESE STREETS WHICH
09:53:40AM ARE DANGEROUS.
09:53:40AM ONE WAY WITH 45 MILES PER HOUR, 35 MILES PER HOUR.
09:53:44AM MUCH NEEDED IMPROVEMENTS ON TOP OF WHEN IT RAINS A LITTLE
09:53:48AM BIT HARD, YOU KNOW, NOT A CRAZY RAIN STORM, IT FLOODS
09:53:52AM TREMENDOUSLY AT FLORIBRASKA AND TAMPA DOWN TO PALM AND THESE
09:53:58AM ARE MUCH-NEEDED.
09:53:59AM AND I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT YOU ARE TAKING THESE MEASURES.
09:54:03AM SO YOU SAY CONSTRUCTION WILL BEGIN ON 24th.
09:54:09AM >> THE SOUTHERN PHASE WILL BE LATE '24 AND NORTHERN PHASE
09:54:13AM LATE '25.
09:54:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:54:16AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:54:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:54:18AM AND, YES, I -- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I AM MOST EXCITED
09:54:21AM ABOUT WHEN YOU TALK OF FLORIDA AND TAMPA IS HOW YOU ARE
09:54:24AM GOING TO ENCOURAGE BIKE TRAFFIC TO GET OFF OF THOSE MAJOR
09:54:28AM ROADS WHICH IS A VERY IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO TO ENCOURAGE
09:54:31AM CYCLISTS TO ACTUALLY CYCLE IN THIS CITY.
09:54:33AM SO OLA AVENUE AND CENTRAL AVENUE ARE THE PERFECT PLACES TO
09:54:38AM GET PEOPLE OFF OF THESE MAJOR STREETS.
09:54:40AM I AM VERY EXCITED TO SEE THAT THE OLA IS COMING ALONG.
09:54:45AM I DID HAVE A QUESTION.
09:54:47AM YOU HAD THE INTERIM VERSUS THE FINAL.
09:54:50AM >> YES.
09:54:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN IS THE TIMELINE BETWEEN THOSE?
09:54:54AM >> IT DEPENDS ON WHEN PREMIUM TRANSIT FOUNDATIONS CAN BE
09:54:58AM ACCOMMODATED.
09:54:59AM I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS SPECIFIC TIMELINE FOR IT.
09:55:03AM WE ARE WORKING WITH HART AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:55:06AM WE ARE DESIGNING OUR UNDERGROUND SYSTEM TO ACCOMMODATE THE
09:55:10AM STREETCARS.
09:55:11AM SO ONCE THEY ARE ABLE TO FIND BUS TRANSIT OR STREETCAR, IT
09:55:16AM WILL BE TRANSITIONED TO THE TRANSIT LANE.
09:55:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:55:20AM I KNOW WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.
09:55:21AM THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION WE HAVE.
09:55:23AM IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND GOING TO THE SLIDES, THE LAST ONE ABOUT
09:55:26AM CENTRAL AVENUE BIKEWAY.
09:55:27AM UP -- IT SAYS THERE IS A NEW SIGNAL AT FLORIDA, BUT FLORIDA
09:55:33AM IS PARALLEL TO CENTRAL.
09:55:35AM SO I AM -- I AM CONFUSED ABOUT WHERE THAT NEW SIGNAL.
09:55:40AM DO YOU FLORIBRASKA?
09:55:48AM >> I AM NOT THE PROJECT MANAGER AND I DON'T KNOW
09:55:51AM SPECIFICALLY, BUT I WILL GET THAT INFORMATION AROUND GET
09:55:56AM BACK TO YOU.
09:55:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CENTRAL COULD BE -- I USE IT FROM TIME TO
09:55:59AM TIME, BUT FOR ME THE STICKING POINT IS MLK.
09:56:03AM THAT LIGHT IS SCARY AS A CYCLIST.
09:56:05AM SO MAYBE THAT'S IT, BUT, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE
09:56:13AM ADDING SOME BULB OUTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
09:56:16AM MAYBE THAT MAY BE A SPOT THAT YOU ARE DOING THAT.
09:56:18AM BUT, YES, SO -- SO BASICALLY, YOU ARE JUST WAITING ON HART
09:56:24AM AND THE CITY TO FINALIZE THEIR PLANS FOR EITHER A ROUNDABOUT
09:56:30AM OR A -- OR A CIRCULATOR.
09:56:33AM AND I THINK LOOKS LIKE VIK BHIDE IS ON -- HE MAY WANT TO
09:56:39AM HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
09:56:41AM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
09:56:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BEFORE THAT, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE
09:56:46AM STORMWATER.
09:56:47AM TAMPA HEIGHTS IS DESPERATE FOR STORMWATER HELP.
09:56:50AM REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE FDOT'S FOCUS ON THIS.
09:56:54AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.
09:56:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VIK.
09:56:57AM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
09:56:58AM GOOD MORNING, CHAIR, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, VIK BHIDE,
09:57:02AM DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
09:57:03AM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK FDOT ON THIS PARTNERSHIP,
09:57:08AM BECAUSE A QUICK HISTORY ON THIS PROJECT AS KARA MENTIONED.
09:57:12AM THIS WAS -- THIS IS A RAISED GRANT AWARD ARE FROM FEDERAL
09:57:17AM HIGHWAY THAT DISTRICT 7 WENT AFTER.
09:57:20AM AND WE SUPPORT IT.
09:57:22AM SO THIS WAS IN SOME WAY A PARTNERSHIP FOR -- WHERE THE GRANT
09:57:27AM WAS AWARDED.
09:57:27AM AND THEN FDOT HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES AVAILABLE ON
09:57:33AM TOP OF THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY GRANT, PARTICULARLY TO
09:57:36AM ACCOMMODATE TRANSIT, THE BIKEWAYS AND THE STORMWATER PIECE.
09:57:40AM THE STORMWATER PIECE IS NOT AS ATTRACTIVE IN ALL OF THIS,
09:57:45AM BUT THIS IS A LOW LYING AREA NORTH OF THE INTERSTATE HAVING
09:57:53AM THAT STORMWATER CONNECTIVITY AND AVOIDING FLOODING IS REALLY
09:57:57AM IMPORTANT AS FAR AS THE SCHEDULE FOR THE TRANSIT LANE IS
09:58:03AM CONCERNED.
09:58:03AM THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT ARE CONSIDERATION.
09:58:05AM ONE IS, AS KARA MENTIONED, WILL THERE BE ADDITIONAL SERVICE
09:58:09AM A AND PREMIUM TRANSIT ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.
09:58:11AM TO THAT END, WE ARE WORKING WITH HART AS WELL AS THEIR
09:58:20AM DEPARTMENT WITH THE INTERMODAL OFFICE TO MAKE FUNDING
09:58:23AM AVAILABLE FOR EXTENDED SERVICE WHERE THE STREET CAR WHICH IS
09:58:32AM STATION 11 ALL THE WAY TO THE HEIGHTS AND OUR HOPE THAT WILL
09:58:36AM RUN IN A DEDICATED LANE AT SOME POINT HART SR. WORK ON
09:58:42AM STATIONS ALONG THIS SAME ROUTE IN ANTICIPATION OF A FUTURE
09:58:46AM NORTH-SOUTH.
09:58:47AM EVERYONE IS LINING UP AROUND THAT.
09:58:52AM THE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ARE THE ONGOING WORK IN SEMINOLE
09:58:57AM HEIGHTS WITH THE CITY'S PROJECT WITH SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE
09:58:59AM HEIGHTS THAT YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT NEXT.
09:59:01AM AND ALSO THE DEPARTMENT'S ONGOING PROJECTS.
09:59:06AM RELATIVE TO THAT.
09:59:08AM AGAIN, WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE
09:59:11AM DEPARTMENT AND WORK THROUGH THESE.
09:59:16AM THIS IS A VERY EXCITING PROJECT BECAUSE HITS SO MANY OF OUR
09:59:22AM REGIONAL PRIORITIES AND GETS THEM TOGETHER AND WITHOUT
09:59:24AM GETTING THE ROADWAYS RIGHT, IT IS HARD TO GET EVERYTHING
09:59:28AM ELSE THAT FOLLOWS, TRANSIT, WALK, BIKE AND ALL.
09:59:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:59:34AM YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:59:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
09:59:36AM I WANT TO SAY A REFERENCE FOR FDOT.
09:59:40AM BEING RELATIVELY NEW ON COUNCIL, I HEAR GREAT THINGS ABOUT
09:59:43AM THE COOPERATIVE ATTITUDE WITH FDOT AND YOUR DISTRICT.
09:59:48AM I -- I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF -- THERE IS A LOT OF CYNICISM
09:59:53AM ABOUT GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, IN OUR SOCIETY.
09:59:55AM WHEN I SEE KIND OF THE VISIONARY KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU ARE
09:59:58AM PRESENTING AND BEING PROACTIVE AND ACCOMMODATING THE FUTURE
10:00:04AM GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
10:00:04AM WHAT AN IMPORTANT CORRIDOR THIS IS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:00:07AM FOR YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE ON YOUR TEAM, I APPRECIATE IT ON
10:00:11AM BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO HELP
10:00:14AM TAMPA GROW AND THE IMPACT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE ON OUR
10:00:18AM CITY AND ACCOMMODATING -- I AM A BIG ADVOCATE FOR THE
10:00:21AM EXPANSION OF THE STREET CAR SYSTEM.
10:00:23AM I LOVE THE FACT YOU ARE BEING A VISIONARY AND LOOKING AT
10:00:26AM THAT AND ACCOMMODATING AND BUILDING TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T
10:00:29AM HAVE TO RETROFIT THINGS.
10:00:30AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:00:31AM AND GOOD GOVERNMENT.
10:00:32AM I APPLAUD IT.
10:00:34AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:00:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:00:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU -- OH, I AM SORRY.
10:00:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, GO AHEAD.
10:00:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL RIGHT, THANKS.
10:00:44AM I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN SAID OF FDOT
10:00:48AM DISTRICT 7, WORK DO YOU WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND ELECTED
10:00:52AM OFFICIALS.
10:00:52AM I APPRECIATE THAT A LOT.
10:00:53AM I AM ON THE HART BOARD ALONG WITH COUNCILWOMAN GWEN
10:00:58AM HENDERSON HERE.
10:00:58AM AND WE ALWAYS RELY ON A VERY GOOD, PRODUCTIVE RELATIONSHIPS
10:01:01AM WITH FDOT DISTRICT 7.
10:01:04AM I WAS TALKING -- IN TALLAHASSEE NOT LONG AGO AND WASHINGTON
10:01:10AM D.C. FOR HART.
10:01:15AM YOU ARE A PARTNER WITH THIS.
10:01:17AM ETC., THROUGH IN SICKNESS AND IN HEALTH, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM
10:01:21AM SAYING.
10:01:21AM AND YOU ALL DO A REALLY GOOD JOB.
10:01:23AM AND I KNOW I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:01:25AM I KNOW MR. BHIDE APPRECIATES THAT AND A LOT OF FOLKS DO.
10:01:31AM I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN SAID.
10:01:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:01:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR WHAT I HEARD FROM OTHER
10:01:39AM COUNCILMEMBERS, OUR PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE.
10:01:41AM WHAT IT IS, SOMETHING THAT BECOMES DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE ARE
10:01:44AM HUMAN BEINGS.
10:01:45AM WHEN YOU TRAVEL THE SAME ROAD FOR 20, 25 YEARS AND NO
10:01:48AM CHANGE, YOU HAVE RECORDED THAT IN YOUR MIND BECAUSE YOUR
10:01:52AM EYES SAW IT.
10:01:53AM WHEN YOU START MAKING CHANGES PEOPLE SAY HOW IS THIS GOING
10:02:01AM TO CROSS AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
10:02:02AM THIS IS WHAT WILL MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA SAFETY OF SAFE.
10:02:07AM AND YOU HAVE DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WEDS CROSS THE
10:02:12AM STREET SAFELY.
10:02:12AM AND THANK YOU AND THE DIVISION THAT YOU ARE INVOLVED IN
10:02:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE.
10:02:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:02:19AM ANYBODY ELSE?
10:02:22AM YES, MA'AM.
10:02:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL JUST SAY THANK YOU.
10:02:26AM I LIVE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS AND I KNOW THE COMMUNITY
10:02:30AM PRESENTATION AFTERWARDS, EVERYBODY WAS EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
10:02:32AM AS I AM LEARNING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND OUR CORRIDORS AND
10:02:36AM HOW WE MOVE ABOUT HOW WE MOVE THROUGH.
10:02:39AM I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION AS WELL.
10:02:41AM I KNOW THE COMMUNITY IS EXCITED.
10:02:45AM AND I LIVE ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
10:02:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
10:02:52AM IS THAT IT?
10:02:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:02:54AM I AM AUSTIN PETERSON AS BRIAN MENTIONED, THE MANAGER FOR THE
10:02:58AM CONSTRUCTION ONGOING ON I-275 FROM I-4 TO HILLSBOROUGH.
10:03:04AM I WILL GIVE YOU A HIGH-LEVEL UPDATES WHERE WE ARE ON THE
10:03:08AM PROJECT AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU ARE CERTAINLY
10:03:10AM FREE TO ASK.
10:03:10AM WE ARE ABOUT 50% OF THE CONTRACT TIME TO THIS POINT.
10:03:14AM THE CONTRACTOR IS AROUND 60% OF MONEY EARNED ON THE
10:03:18AM CONTRACT.
10:03:19AM SO TRENDING A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE, BUT THE CONTRACT
10:03:23AM IS ON TIME FOR COMPLETE IN LATE 2025 OR EARLY 2026 IS WHAT
10:03:28AM WE ARE ANTICIPATING RIGHT NOW.
10:03:30AM IF YOU GO OUT THERE, YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE SOME OF THE FRUITS
10:03:34AM OF THE LABOR OF THE CONTRACTOR GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
10:03:35AM WE ARE ABOUT 50% COMPLETE WITH THE OVERHEAD SIGN STRUCTURES
10:03:39AM THAT YOU WILL DEFINITELY SEE SOME OF THOSE GOING UP IF YOU
10:03:43AM DRIVE THROUGH.
10:03:43AM THOSE ARE USUALLY BEING COMPLETED WHERE OVERNIGHT CLOSURES
10:03:48AM OF I-275 NORTHBOUND AND SOUTHBOUND.
10:03:52AM AND WE WILL REOPEN OBVIOUSLY BEFORE TRAFFIC IN THE MORNING.
10:03:56AM BUT NOSE WHO COME UP, 50% COMPLETE WITH THAT.
10:03:59AM ANOTHER THING YOU WILL SEE READILY IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH ARE
10:04:01AM THE NOISE WALLS GOING UP ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE OF 275.
10:04:05AM THOSE ARE ABOUT 50% COMPLETE AS WELL.
10:04:07AM WE HAVE 14-FOOT AND 8-FOOT-HIGH NOISE WALLS GOING IN ON BOTH
10:04:12AM SIDES.
10:04:13AM I THINK THOSE WILL PROBABLY BE A BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY
10:04:15AM ONCE THEY ARE FULLY COMPLETED PROVIDING SOME PROTECTION FROM
10:04:19AM THE SOUND TO THE HOUSE ALONG 275 THERE.
10:04:22AM ANOTHER ITEM THAT WE ARE WORKING THROUGH AS WELL IS THE
10:04:30AM CONCRETE PAVEMENT FOR THE IN YOU RAMPS ON AND OFF OUR OF
10:04:34AM 275.
10:04:34AM UP SEE A LOT OF THAT GOING ON CURRENTLY.
10:04:37AM WE HAVE A TRAFFIC SWITCH PLAN FOR LATE AUGUST OR EARLY
10:04:40AM SEPTEMBER TO SWITCH TRAFFIC ON PARTS OF THE NEW RAMPS TO
10:04:49AM COMPLETE THE OUTSIDE LANES AND YOU WILL SEE THAT IN THE NEAR
10:04:52AM FUTURE AS WELL.
10:04:53AM ANOTHER LARGE ITEM OF WORK ON THE JOB IS THE BRIDGE WIDENING
10:04:58AM THEMSELVES.
10:04:59AM WE HAVE TWO BRIDGE WIDENS.
10:05:01AM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND HILLSBOROUGH ON THE WEST AND EAST
10:05:04AM SIDE NEED TO BE COMPLETED AND LAKE, JUST THE WEST SIDE, I
10:05:08AM BELIEVE.
10:05:08AM THE LAST THING I REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU ALL WAS
10:05:13AM JUST -- I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DRIVE THROUGH THE SURFACE STREETS
10:05:15AM AND SEE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE HAVE SORT OF ROUGH
10:05:20AM COMPLETED I WILL SAY.
10:05:21AM CERTAINLY ON THE EAST SIDE, TALIAFERRO AND FLORIBRASKA AND
10:05:26AM WEST SIDE MORE DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT SOUTH OF HANNA ALONG
10:05:30AM THE WEST SIDE.
10:05:31AM THOSE AREAS WE HAVE SODDED AND WALL IS ALL FINISHED.
10:05:38AM WE MOVED OUT THE LIMITED A, SES FENCE, THAT SURROUNDS THE
10:05:41AM INTERSTATE.
10:05:42AM IF YOU MOVE THAT, YOU WILL SEE THE FENCE READILY ALONG THE
10:05:46AM INTERSTATE.
10:05:46AM SOME OF THE AREAS SOUTH, WE MOVED THE FENCE OUT OR REMOVED
10:05:52AM IT COMPLETELY AND OPENED UP THOSE GRASS AREAS, THE SOD AREAS
10:05:56AM AND I THINK HOPEFULLY AGAIN ANOTHER THING THAT THE COMMUNITY
10:05:59AM WILL APPRECIATE ONCE WE ARE COMPLETE.
10:06:01AM A LITTLE BIT BETTER AESTHETIC AND OPEN.
10:06:06AM NOW THAT WE HAVE NOISE WALLS, NO ACCESS TO THE INTERSTATE IN
10:06:09AM THOSE AREAS AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE SOME OF THAT FENCING
10:06:12AM OUT.
10:06:12AM AGAIN THE CONTRACTOR IS DILIGENT TRYING TO IMPACT THE
10:06:18AM COMMUNITY AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE.
10:06:20AM AND WE ARE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
10:06:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:06:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE.
10:06:29AM THAT IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
10:06:31AM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DO DRIVE THAT AREA A LOT AND
10:06:35AM I HAVE BEEN NOTICING EVERY SINGLE THING YOU MENTIONED WITH
10:06:39AM WHICH IS -- I WILL SAY A PRAYER FOR YOUR AUGUST, SEPTEMBER
10:06:42AM LANE CHANGE THING WHEN SCHOOL STARTS.
10:06:43AM THAT WILL BE TRICKY.
10:06:44AM BUT THOSE NOISE WALLS ARE REALLY, REALLY JUST CEMENT-Y.
10:06:53AM WILL THERE BE A FINAL --
10:06:56AM >> THEY WILL BE STAINED.
10:06:57AM AURORA BROWN IS THE TECHNICAL TERM FOR IT POSSIBLY.
10:07:02AM BUT THEY WILL BE STAINED BEFORE WE ARE FULLY COMPLETE.
10:07:04AM WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO LINE THAT WITH THE DTI, DOWNTOWN
10:07:09AM INTERCHANGES CONSTRUCTION AND NOT EXACTLY WHEN WE ARE
10:07:14AM COMPLETE, BUT EVENTUALLY STAINED.
10:07:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HAS A FEELING OF A TUNNEL.
10:07:18AM AND REALLY DISCONCERTING.
10:07:20AM OUR CITY IS SO COLORFUL AND VIBRANT.
10:07:22AM IT FEELS SO WEIRD.
10:07:24AM YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE NOT EVEN IN THE CITY, YOU ARE DRIVING
10:07:27AM PAST IT.
10:07:27AM AND I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE THAT VICTIMS
10:07:30AM ALWAYS SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, IT -- JUST -- JUST GETTING THE
10:07:36AM VIBRANCY AND WHAT THE CITY IS LIKE.
10:07:38AM THEN THE -- THE OTHER THING THAT I KNOW NEIGHBORS HAVE
10:07:43AM DISCUSSED AND I THINK I HAVE TALKED TO FOLKS ABOUT BEFORE,
10:07:46AM BUT IF NOT, I AM HAPPY TO DO IT OFF LINE.
10:07:49AM THE ON RAMPS FROM SIDE STREETS WHERE PEOPLE CAN THEN HOP ON
10:07:54AM THE INTERSTATE.
10:07:55AM A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS BE USE THOSE USE THOSE LITTLE SIDES.
10:08:02AM USE THE ACT TO USE THE PARALLEL STREET TO HOP ON IF PEOPLE
10:08:09AM ARE GETTING OFF AT HILLSBOROUGH.
10:08:11AM A LITTLE CHEROKEE THAT YOU CAN JUST POP RIGHT ON.
10:08:14AM THAT HAS SHRUNK PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY AND BECOME A REAL
10:08:18AM TRAFFIC ISSUE AND I KNOW IT IS IN OTHER CONNECTORS AS WELL.
10:08:24AM IF THERE IS ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT SO HELP THE
10:08:28AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT EXACERBATING THE PROBLEM.
10:08:32AM >> WE CAN REVIEW THOSE AREAS AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY FUTURE
10:08:35AM PLANS.
10:08:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I TALKED -- I BELIEVE JUSTIN HALL ABOUT IT A
10:08:39AM WHILE AGO, BUT MY AIDE, KELLY SHARP, IS RIGHT HERE.
10:08:43AM >> WE CAN REVIEW CERTAINLY DURING CONSTRUCTION IF SOMETHING
10:08:47AM WE ARE BLOCKING OFF EXCESSIVELY DURING CONSTRUCTION.
10:08:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK PEOPLE WILL APPRECIATE THAT IN THE
10:08:54AM LONG RUN.
10:08:54AM THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR THE UPDATE THE PUBLIC APPRECIATES IT.
10:09:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:05AM ANYTHING ELSE?
10:09:06AM ANYTHING ELSE FROM FDOT?
10:09:08AM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
10:09:09AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
10:09:10AM NEXT UP, ITEM NUMBER 4, NELSON CONSTRUCTION HERE AND MR.
10:09:14AM BAIRD.
10:09:18AM >>BRAD BAIRD: GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY
10:09:24AM ADMINISTRATION OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:09:26AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS.
10:09:29AM I HAVE WILL STOCK, THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR NELSON
10:09:32AM CONSTRUCTION.
10:09:33AM HE WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS GO
10:09:36AM THROUGH THE ISSUES THAT HAVE COME THROUGH CHAIRMAN
10:09:39AM MANISCALCO'S OFFICE AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S OFFICE.
10:09:42AM WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO WILL.
10:09:44AM >> ALL RIGHT, I WILL MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS NEEDED.
10:10:02AM GOOD MORNING, ALL.
10:10:03AM START WITH THE RIVER AND WORK OUR WAY OUT NORTH AND EAST.
10:10:06AM SO STARTING AT RIVER BOULEVARD RIGHT HERE AT THE CUL-DE-SAC.
10:10:14AM THE SIDEWALK AND CURB IS COMPLETE AND THE CUL-DE-SAC HAVE
10:10:20AM BEEN GRADED.
10:10:21AM AND PLACE THE SOD.
10:10:23AM AT THE SAME TIME, WE WILL PLACE THE SOD ON THE OUTSIDE WHERE
10:10:28AM IT IS AWAY FROM CAR TRAFFIC.
10:10:29AM OAK CREST RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE IN THE HIGHLAND INTERSECTION.
10:10:35AM THAT HAS BEEN PAVED IN THE FINAL CONFIGURATION AND WILL BE
10:10:39AM STRIPED ONCE THE ASPHALT HAS TIME TO CURE.
10:10:42AM MID TO LATE AUGUST OBJECT THAT.
10:10:44AM FLORIDA AVENUE BETWEEN CREST AND FRIARSON, WE HAD MORE BACK
10:10:50AM AND FORTH WITH FDOT.
10:10:52AM THEY ADDED ANOTHER INLET FOR US TO REPOUR THAT WAS NOT
10:10:55AM PREVIOUSLY ON OUR SCOPE.
10:10:57AM WE ARE WAITING ON REBAR FABRICATION FROM THE FABRICATION
10:11:02AM SHOP TO BE DELIVERED SO WE CAN FINISH THAT WORK.
10:11:05AM WE HAVE BEEN WAITING A MONTH ON THE REBAR.
10:11:12AM WE HOPE TO GET THAT SECTION OF ROAD, THAT 200 FEET OF ROAD
10:11:17AM REPAVED.
10:11:17AM FRIARSON, BETWEEN FLORIDA AND CENTRAL.
10:11:24AM THE CURB AND THE FIRST LIFT OF ASPHALT IS INVOLVED AND WE
10:11:27AM ARE CURRENTLY PULLING THE DRIVEWAY AND GRADING BEHIND THE
10:11:31AM CURB FOR SOD.
10:11:33AM THE FINAL LIFT OF ASPHALT WILL BE INSTALLED IN A FEW WEEKS
10:11:36AM AFTER ALL THE SOD HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE.
10:11:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, CAN I STOP YOU FOR A HOME SINCE
10:11:45AM ON FRIARSON.
10:11:46AM YOU ARE TALKING FRIARSON AND CENTRAL.
10:11:51AM I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY A CONSTITUENT, DECORATIVE STOP BARS AND
10:11:58AM EAST-WEST CORRIDOR FOR THE SIDEWALK AND CALL ATTENTION TO
10:12:01AM THE STOP BE POINTS ON THE STREET.
10:12:03AM THE CONSTITUENT THAT CONTACTED US SAID THAT WAS CHANGED FROM
10:12:07AM THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.
10:12:08AM DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT?
10:12:10AM IT SHOULD BE STAYING THE SAME.
10:12:13AM >> THE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED WAS DECORATIVE BRICK CROSSWALKS
10:12:19AM ON THE EAST AND WEST END.
10:12:20AM WE ARE STILL DOING THAT.
10:12:21AM THE PLAN IS ALWAYS PUT IT ON TOP OF THE FRESH ASPHALT AS
10:12:27AM A THERMA PLASTIC PRODUCT.
10:12:30AM IT WILL BE RAISED.
10:12:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS STILL IN THE PLAN AND NOT CHANGED.
10:12:35AM >> CORRECT.
10:12:36AM WE HAVE TO WAIT 30 DAYS AFTER THE ASPHALT IS IN PLACE.
10:12:40AM WE HAVE THAT SCHEDULED THE NIGHT OF AUGUST 14.
10:12:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL LITTLE THE INDIVIDUAL KNOW.
10:12:44AM THANK YOU.
10:12:45AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:12:47AM >> ON CENTRAL, SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH.
10:12:50AM FROM HILLSBOROUGH TO -- JUST SOUTH OF OSBORNE.
10:12:54AM FINAL LIFT OF ASPHALT HAS BEEN INSTALLED AND THE ROAD HAS
10:12:58AM BEEN STRIPE WITH TEMPORARY PAINT.
10:13:00AM ONLY EXCEPTION THE OSBORNE INTERSECTION ITSELF AND WE WILL
10:13:04AM HAVE TO COME BACK AND MILL AND RESURFACE THE INTERSECTION.
10:13:09AM AGAIN, THE ASPHALT NEEDS 30 DAYS TO CURE BEFORE WE ARE ABLE
10:13:13AM TO PUT THE STRIPING DOWN IN THIS PERMANENT CONFIRMATION
10:13:19AM WHICH INCLUDES THE CROSSWALK AUGUST 14.
10:13:21AM THE OTHER THING WE ARE LOOKING -- OPENING THIS ENTIRE
10:13:25AM SECTION OF CENTRAL.
10:13:26AM TWO-WAY TRAFFIC BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS BACK ON AUGUST 10.
10:13:31AM I HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF CONCERNS RAISED US AS A CONTRACTOR
10:13:34AM AND THE CITY WITH TWO-WAY TRAFFIC ON A ONE-WAY STREET.
10:13:37AM PEOPLE GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION.
10:13:39AM THAT WILL BE ALLEVIATED HERE IN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
10:13:42AM LET'S SEE.
10:13:44AM WE ARE GOING TO -- WE ARE GOING TO JUMP UP HERE NOW TO
10:13:48AM HANNA.
10:13:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PULL IT DOWN.
10:13:51AM WE CAN'T SEE.
10:13:52AM >> THANK YOU.
10:13:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS HANNA AND CENTRAL AVENUE?
10:13:55AM OKAY.
10:13:56AM >> CORRECT, HANNA, H-CENTRAL AVENUE INTERSECTION GOING DOWN
10:14:02AM TO NEBRASKA.
10:14:03AM WE ENCOUNTERED UNFORESEEN CONDITIONS ALONG THE ROADWAY THAT
10:14:09AM CREATED MULTIPLE SETBACKS FOR US.
10:14:11AM WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY TO ADD ADDITIONAL SCOPE TO THE
10:14:15AM CITY ALONG HANNA.
10:14:16AM DESPITE THE SETBACKS AND ADDITIONS, WE ARE ON SCHEDULED TO
10:14:20AM OPEN THE HANNA INTERSECTION AND HANNA ITSELF BETWEEN THE
10:14:24AM INTERSECTION AND THE I-275 OVERPASS FROM THE INTERSECTION TO
10:14:28AM OF THE FAR EAST SCHOOL ENTRANCE ALLOW CARS TO MAKE A TRAFFIC
10:14:33AM LOOP COMING IN THROUGH THE INTERSECTION COMING OFF OF -- OFF
10:14:36AM OF SLIGH OR OFF OF FLORIDA AVENUE.
10:14:38AM BE ABLE TO MAKE THE CAR LOOP TO DO DROP-OFF AND PICK-UP AND
10:14:45AM GO BACK OUT.
10:14:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT TO BE DONE?
10:14:48AM >> PAVING THAT NEXT TUESDAY AND OPEN BEFORE OPEN HOUSE ON
10:14:51AM AUGUST 8.
10:14:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WILL ALLOW ACCESS -- NORMAL ACCESS
10:14:55AM TO THE BUSINESSES ON CENTRAL AND HANNA, CORRECT
10:14:58AM >> NO, SIR, WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE GOING TO
10:15:00AM HAVE THE INTERSECTION OPEN EAST, WEST AND NORTH.
10:15:04AM IT WILL STAY CLOSED TO THE SOUTH FOR LIKELY ANOTHER FOUR TO
10:15:08AM SIX WEEKS WHILE WE CONTINUE THROUGH SOME OF THE ISSUES WE
10:15:11AM HAVE THERE.
10:15:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PARIS STREET IS HOW FAR SOUTH FROM
10:15:15AM HANNA.
10:15:16AM TWO BLOCKS OVER.
10:15:17AM >> HARRIS IS THE NEXT BLOCK TO THE SOUTH.
10:15:19AM IT IS ABOUT 400 FEET SOUTH OF HANNA.
10:15:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF SOMEONE WANTED TO GO TO ONE OF THE
10:15:26AM BUSINESSES THERE IN THAT -- IN THAT AREA IN FRONT OF THE
10:15:28AM CHURCH, THEY CAN TAKE -- I DON'T KNOW, COMANCHE, WHATEVER TO
10:15:32AM CENTRAL AND ACCESS IT MORE EASILY THAN WE CAN NOW, CORRECT?
10:15:36AM >> CORRECT.
10:15:37AM THE PARIS INTERSECTION IS OPEN.
10:15:39AM AND WE WILL NOT CLOSE THE PARIS INTERSECTION UNTIL WE HAVE
10:15:42AM ACCESSORY STORED COMING OFF OF HANNA INTERSECTION.
10:15:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
10:15:46AM >> WORKING -- WORKING FROM I-275 OVER NEBRASKA, WE ARE STILL
10:15:55AM INSTALLING SANITARY SEWER THERE AND EXTENDING THE STORM
10:16:00AM DRAIN SYSTEM TO THE NEBRASKA INTERSECTION.
10:16:02AM THAT WORK WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE.
10:16:04AM WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE THE REST OF HANNA OPEN BY EARLY
10:16:09AM OCTOBER ALLOWING THE SCHOOL TO GO BACK TO ITS NORMAL TRAFFIC
10:16:12AM LOOP WHICH IS COMING IN OFF OF NEBRASKA.
10:16:15AM LIKE I SAID, WE ARE LOOKING AT PAVING THE FIRST 600 FEET OF
10:16:19AM HANNA IN THE INTERSECTION NEXT TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.
10:16:23AM AND WHEN WE DO SO, WE WILL BE PAVING THE INTERSECTION OF
10:16:28AM IDLEWILD WHICH IS RIGHT THERE ON THE MAP.
10:16:30AM THE CHEROKEE IDLEWILD INTERSECTION.
10:16:35AM CENTRAL NORTH OF HILLSBOROUGH.
10:16:37AM SO THAT IS THE PORTION FROM STARBUCKS GOING UP TO YOU PARIS
10:16:41AM STREET.
10:16:41AM WORK IS COMPLETE FROM COMANCHE FROM HENRY.
10:16:48AM FROM COMANCHE TO HENRY, THE STORM WORK COMPLETE.
10:16:52AM AND WE ARE WORKING TO TIE THE WORK TOGETHER AT HENRY
10:16:56AM INTERSECTION.
10:16:56AM SETTING THE FINAL BAFFLE BOX FOR THE PROJECT, GREEN
10:17:02AM STRUCTURE INITIATIVES TAKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE
10:17:07AM INTERSECTION NEXT WEEK, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE HENRY
10:17:09AM INTERSECTION.
10:17:10AM THIS WILL ALLOW INSTALLING STORM DRAIN AND WATER MAIN PIPE
10:17:15AM TO THE NORTH PARIS.
10:17:19AM AND WE HAVE RUN THOSE ACTIVITIES FROM HANNA DOWN TO PARIS.
10:17:22AM IT IS ABOUT FINISHING THE SURFACE IMPROVEMENTS BETWEEN PARIS
10:17:27AM AND HANNA ON THE NORTH END.
10:17:29AM AS I STATED BEFORE, QUITE A FEW SETBACKS AND ANA UNKNOWNS IN
10:17:41AM THE INTERSECTION.
10:17:42AM AND TO STAY ON SCHEDULE SHUT DOWN OR WORK IN THE SOUTHEAST
10:17:45AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR FOUR TO SIX WEEKS TO FOCUS
10:17:49AM ON GETTING THE WORK DONE BY THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
10:17:54AM WORK IS STARTED THERE NOW.
10:17:56AM ON 12th STREET SORRY, GUYS.
10:18:06AM SO ON 12th STREET.
10:18:08AM THE 24-INCH WATER MAIN HAS BEEN INSTALLED FROM CARACAS DOWN
10:18:13AM TO THE OSBORNE INTERSECTION.
10:18:15AM WE WILL BE JUMPING OVER THE OSBORNE INTERSECTION BEFORE THE
10:18:19AM END OF THIS WEEK HOPEFULLY AND CONTINUING WITH WATER MAIN --
10:18:24AM CONTINUING WITH WATER MAIN INSTALLATION SOUTH TO CURTIS.
10:18:27AM WE WILL THEN BE GOING BACK AND CONNECTING THE DOTS IN THE
10:18:31AM MIDDLE OF THE OSBORNE INTERSECTION AT THAT TIME A LATER
10:18:34AM DATE.
10:18:34AM WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO GO AHEAD AND WATER MAIN BETWEEN
10:18:38AM CARACAS AND NEW ORLEANS AND THEN WORKING OUR WAY SOUTH TO
10:18:42AM OSBORNE SO WE CAN START BRINGING THE NEW SYSTEM ONLINE AND
10:18:47AM TAKING THE OILED SYSTEM OFFLINE.
10:18:49AM AND THAT WILL HELP US WITH STORM DRAIN ON CARACAS AND FINISH
10:18:55AM ON CARACAS.
10:18:57AM STRAIGHT UP ON 12th ON CARACAS AND CONTINUING SOUTH FOR
10:19:01AM FLUID OPERATION.
10:19:01AM LIKE I SAID, STORMWATER WORK IS TAKING PLACE ON CARACAS WITH
10:19:09AM 06-INCH STORM INSTALLATION AND WE HAVE VIBRATION MONITORING
10:19:13AM TAKING PLACE ON THAT STORM PIPE, THE LARGEST STORM PIPE WE
10:19:17AM HAVE BEING INSTALLED ON THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
10:19:19AM WATER MAIN WILL ALSO BE STARTING BACK IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF
10:19:22AM WREAKS AT NEBRASKA.
10:19:24AM AND FOLLOWING THE STORMWATER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO WE CAN
10:19:28AM START BUILDING A ROAD BEHIND OURSELVES AND IN PRESIDENT VERY
10:19:32AM NEAR FUTURE.
10:19:33AM THERE ARE A FEW QUESTIONS BROUGHT UP TO US.
10:19:37AM WE WANTED TO RUN THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICK AS WELL.
10:19:40AM WE HAVE.
10:19:45AM WE HAD CONCERN OF THE GRANITE CURB INSTALLATION THAT IS
10:19:48AM TAKING PLACE ON CENTRAL.
10:19:49AM THE GRANITE CURB THAT WE ARE SETTING THERE IS 80 TO 100
10:19:55AM YEARS OLD NONE OF THAT CURB AT THIS POINT IS FLASH, FLUSH OR
10:20:03AM SQUARED.
10:20:03AM IT IS ALMOST POSSIBLE TO GET THAT CURB TO FIT BACK PERFECTLY
10:20:08AM THE SAME WAY IT DOES ON THE GROUND.
10:20:09AM EVERY PIECE OF CURB THAT WE ARE TOUCHING -- EVERY PIECE OF
10:20:13AM CURB THAT IS SET BACK IS TOUCHING ANOTHER PIECE OF CURB.
10:20:18AM IT MAY INCUR PIECES OF ACTUAL STONE.
10:20:23AM THOSE PIECES ARE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET BACK TOGETHER
10:20:27AM CORRECTLY.
10:20:27AM IF THERE IS ANY CHANGE TO THE RADIUS AT ALL, THE GRANITE
10:20:32AM CURB WON'T FIT TOGETHER AT ALL.
10:20:34AM WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT BEFORE LIKE ON THE SOUTHWEST
10:20:36AM CORNER OF -- OF GIDDENS AND CENTRAL.
10:20:41AM WE HAD TO POUR BACK 24 FEET OF CONCRETE CURB FOR THAT
10:20:45AM INTERSECTION.
10:20:46AM NO WAY TO MAKE THE PIECES OF GRANITE CURB FIT THERE.
10:20:49AM THERE WAS A QUESTION OF ADVANCED NOTICE AND ROAD CLOSURES.
10:20:55AM I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD ANY ROAD CLOSURES SINCE WE LAST CAME
10:21:01AM BEFORE CITY COUNCIL BUT THE CITY HAS PROTOCOLS ON ADVANCED
10:21:06AM NOTIFICATION.
10:21:06AM VARIABLE MESSAGE BOARDS ON PLACE.
10:21:08AM AND PROVIDE NOTIFICATION AS WELL THROUGH THE WEB SITE FOR
10:21:12AM AREAS WHERE WE ARE SHUTTING DO UP AND QUESTION ADHERED AND
10:21:15AM FOLLOWED ALL THOSE SPECIFICATIONS.
10:21:17AM I KNOW THERE WAS CONCERN RAISED WHEN WE WERE REPAVING THE
10:21:22AM HIGHLAND CREST INTERSECTION.
10:21:24AM WE NEVER SHUT DOWN HIGHLAND DURING THAT OPERATION.
10:21:27AM IT WAS ABOUT A TWO-HOUR OPERATION.
10:21:29AM WE DID THAT UNDER A FLAGGING OPERATION.
10:21:32AM AND BECAUSE OF THE SHORT -- THE SHORT DURATION, WE DIDN'T
10:21:36AM BELIEVE THAT WARRANTED ANY ADVANCE NOTIFICATION ASIDE FROM
10:21:39AM THAT.
10:21:39AM THE CITY WAS AWARE.
10:21:40AM CITY STAFF AND TOWNSHIP INSPECTION WAS AWARE.
10:21:44AM MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WAS AWARE.
10:21:45AM WE FELT THAT WENT OFF VERY WELL.
10:21:47AM WE MENTIONED VIBRATION MONITORING.
10:21:50AM THAT IS BEING -- TAKEN PLACE IN THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE
10:21:54AM HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW.
10:21:55AM ON THE 16-INCH STORM.
10:21:57AM COMMENTS ON -- ON COMMUNICATION AND LITTER.
10:22:04AM THAT IS GOING TO BE ONGOING -- AN ONGOING STRUGGLE FOR US AS
10:22:08AM IT IS ON ALL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
10:22:11AM WE CONTINUE TO GET COMPLAINT OF LITTER IN AREAS WHERE WE
10:22:14AM HAVEN'T WORKED IN WEEKS, BUT BECAUSE OF AN ACTIVE
10:22:17AM CONSTRUCTION ZONE, WE GET -- WE GET BLAMED FOR THAT AS WELL
10:22:21AM AS WELL.
10:22:22AM NOT TO SAY WE DON'T HAVE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
10:22:25AM WE HAVE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE AS WELL, BUT -- I THINK I
10:22:29AM SAID ENOUGH ON THAT.
10:22:30AM LOOKING AT -- AT DELAYS IN SCHEDULE, NEW TIMELINE PROJECTION
10:22:39AM FOR PEYTON COURT AVENUE.
10:22:41AM LIKE I SAID, RIGHT NOW WE ARE WAITING CONTINUE TO REBAR FROM
10:22:44AM THE FABRICATION SHOP.
10:22:45AM WE HAVE -- WE HAVE ASKED FOR AN UPDATE ON THAT.
10:22:49AM WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE
10:22:53AM REBAR FROM THE FABRICATION SHOP.
10:22:55AM WE ARE HOPING TO GET IT NEXT WEEK.
10:22:57AM IF THAT TAKES PLACE, ONLY TWO TO THREE WEEKS TO INSTALL THE
10:23:01AM SIX INLET TOPS AND AFTER THAT WE WILL BE SCHEDULING PAVING.
10:23:06AM TO GET THE PAVING DONE AND DONE RIGHT, THAT WILL HAVE TO
10:23:09AM PLACE UNDER A FULL NIGHTTIME CLOSURE AND I BELIEVE D.O.T.
10:23:14AM REQUIRES TWO-WEEK NOTICE ON THAT FOR A FULL SHUTDOWN.
10:23:16AM THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY BE COMING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AFTER THE
10:23:21AM STORMWATER WORK, AND IT WILL HAVE TO BE EXPECTED AND
10:23:24AM APPROVED BEFORE WE PUT THE FINAL ASPHALT DOWN.
10:23:27AM WE -- WE TALKED EARLIER OF THE DECORATIVE BRICK CROSSWALKS.
10:23:34AM WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT DRIVERS GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION ON
10:23:39AM CENTRAL AVENUE.
10:23:40AM THAT WILL BE ALLEVIATED WHEN WE OPEN THAT TO TWO-WAY TRAFFIC
10:23:44AM IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO, BEFORE AUGUST 10.
10:23:47AM AND ALSO QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE -- SOME OF THE DAMAGED
10:23:51AM STOP SIGNS AND STREET NAME SIGNS.
10:23:54AM SOME OF THOSE SHINES TO COME DOWN DURING CONSTRUCTION TO
10:23:57AM FACILITATE CONSTRUCTION AND PUT UP TEMPORARILY WITH ALL THE
10:24:01AM NEW WINNING BEING HONORED.
10:24:03AM SIGNAGE BEING FOR CENTRAL AVENUE.
10:24:06AM SOME OF THE SIGNS DO STAY IN PLACE, BUT THE SIGNS IS THAT
10:24:09AM ARE -- THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED THAT ARE OF CONCERN, THOSE
10:24:12AM HAVE ALREADY BEEN ORDER BY OUR SUBCONTRACTOR.
10:24:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:18AM GREAT PRESENTATION.
10:24:19AM I ASKED MY QUESTIONS.
10:24:20AM AND I HAVE DONE SEVERAL RIDE-ALONGS.
10:24:22AM I DID ONE WITH YOU MONDAY OR TUESDAY MORNING.
10:24:24AM AND, AGAIN, YOU TOOK ME THROUGH THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:24:28AM AND IT WAS VERY GOOD AND SPECIFIC.
10:24:30AM AND YOU REITERATED A LOT OF THE STUFF TODAY.
10:24:33AM I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
10:24:35AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:24:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:24:38AM YES.
10:24:40AM I THINK THE ROAD CLOSURE WAS AN ISSUE WITH PARIS FOR A FEW
10:24:43AM HOURS THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE
10:24:46AM BUSINESSES THAT ARE BEING AFFECTED BY THE CLOSURE AT HANNA.
10:24:49AM AND CENTRAL.
10:24:51AM WHEN LOOKING AT THE COMMUNICATION AND LITTER COMPLAINTS, I
10:24:58AM THINK THAT IS WHY THESE -- THESE -- ONE OF THE REASONS WE
10:25:02AM ARE HAVING YOU COME BACK IS SO THAT -- IT IS A GOOD TIME TO
10:25:06AM TOUCH ON THAT AND JUST KIND OF REMEMBER AND BE REMINDED AND
10:25:11AM MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, SIX WEEKS IS A GREAT TIME TO
10:25:14AM REMIND YOUR CREW .
10:25:17AM SOMETIME THIS YOU HAVE NEW SUBCONTRACTORS AND A GOOD TIME
10:25:21AM TOLL REITERATE THAT.
10:25:22AM AS FAR AS COMMUNICATION, LIKE I SAID, I GET THE UPDATES.
10:25:26AM AND THEY ARE FREQUENT.
10:25:27AM BUT MAKING SURE THAT YOU CONTINUE TO LEAVE DOOR HANGERS
10:25:32AM WHERE IT IS APPROPRIATE.
10:25:33AM KNOCK ON DOORS, WHEN POSSIBLE.
10:25:34AM IT SEEMS LIKE AN HOUR OF DOOR KNOCKING SAVES TEN HOURS ON
10:25:38AM THE BACK END OF QUESTIONS AND PROBLEMS.
10:25:40AM SO AGAIN, APPRECIATE ALL -- ALL THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO ANSWER
10:25:46AM ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT -- THAT WE HAD GOTTEN FROM
10:25:50AM CONSTITUENTS.
10:25:51AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:25:52AM AND THE CURB SITUATION IS -- THAT IS HARD.
10:25:55AM BECAUSE THE GRANITE CURBS ARE JUST BEAUTIFUL AND THAT
10:26:00AM NEIGHBORHOOD, IN PARTICULAR, LOVE THEIR CURBS.
10:26:03AM SO THE ISSUE OF HOW WE CAN GET THOSE IN AND SETTLED I KNOW
10:26:07AM IS IMPORTANT TO SO MANY PEOPLE.
10:26:09AM SO HOPEFULLY WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE CAN THERE.
10:26:13AM BUT I APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND -- AND, YOU KNOW, FILLING US
10:26:18AM IN.
10:26:18AM >> THANK YOU.
10:26:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
10:26:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE GRANITE CURBS, ONES YOU ARE NOT ABLE
10:26:25AM TO REINSTALL.
10:26:26AM ARE YOU KEEPING THOSE AND GIVING THEM TO THE CITY TO
10:26:28AM REPURPOSE THEM IF WE CAN SOMEWHERE ELSE?
10:26:32AM >> ABSOLUTELY WE HAVE AMOUNT OF GRANITE CURBS GOING IN OTHER
10:26:37AM AREAS.
10:26:38AM ANYTHING LEFT OVER AT THE END OF THE PROJECT WILL BE TURNED
10:26:40AM OVER TO THE CITY'S YARD.
10:26:41AM ALL THAT HAS BEEN SAVED.
10:26:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:26:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
10:26:46AM YES, SIR.
10:26:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: I AGAIN WANT TO SALUTE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
10:26:51AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR CONTINUING TO STAY ON THIS.
10:26:54AM I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN -- OBVIOUSLY A NEEDED PROJECT, BUT
10:26:57AM SOMETIMES NEEDED PROJECTS HAVE INCIDENTAL EFFECTS AND WE
10:27:01AM APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
10:27:02AM I WANT TO IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT BOTH OF YOU.
10:27:05AM MY WIFE LOVES VALHALLA.
10:27:09AM SO WE KNOW ALL ABOUT IT.
10:27:10AM THANK YOU.
10:27:11AM SOMETIMES PROJECTS WITH EFFECTS, AND DIDN'T HAVE COUNCIL ON
10:27:14AM THAT.
10:27:15AM SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:27:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN, MIRANDA.
10:27:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:27:20AM AS WAS ECHOED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:27:22AM IT IS DIFFICULT AT TIMES WHEN YOU ARE USED TO GOING DOWN THE
10:27:26AM STREET AND IT WAS SIMPLE.
10:27:27AM NO ROAD BLOCKS.
10:27:28AM ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU HAVE, BOOM, THIS CONSTRUCTION THAT IS
10:27:32AM HELP FOR THE YEARS TO COME.
10:27:34AM MANY YEARS TO COME.
10:27:35AM I CAN ONLY SAY I COMPARE IT TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN WEST
10:27:38AM TAMPA.
10:27:38AM I REMEMBER GOING BY THE WEST TAMPA SANDWICH SHOP AND FOUND
10:27:44AM THE SAME THING.
10:27:44AM SOME OF THE PEOPLE EATING BREAKFAST AND LUNCH WERE OUTSIDE
10:27:49AM WATCHING HOW THEY DID THE PUSHING OF THE INSIDE PIPE.
10:27:52AM I GOT THERE COUPLE OF WEEKS LATER APPALLED THAT THESE THINGS
10:27:56AM HAPPEN AND HOW IT HAPPENED.
10:27:57AM IT IS INTERESTING.
10:27:58AM IT IS EDUCATIONAL.
10:27:59AM AND BENEFITS SOCIETY.
10:28:01AM AND HOPEFULLY WE GET IT DONE.
10:28:03AM LIKE ALWAYS IN A PROPER MANNER AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH
10:28:06AM MUCH MORE PROGRESS.
10:28:08AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING, SIR.
10:28:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:12AM WE WILL BE IN TOUCH.
10:28:14AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:28:15AM ANYTHING ELSE, MR. BAIRD OR YOU ARE GOOD.
10:28:20AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:28:20AM ANYONE TO SPEAK ON THE AGENDA THAT IS NOT SET FOR A PUBLIC
10:28:24AM HEARING.
10:28:24AM COME UP.
10:28:25AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:28:27AM GO TO THE IN-PERSON FOLKS FIRST AND THEN THE REGISTERED
10:28:30AM SPEAKERS THAT WE HAVE.
10:28:31AM YES, MA'AM.
10:28:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:28:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.
10:28:40AM >> I AM FRAN TATE.
10:28:42AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PERSON FOR JACKSON HEIGHTS AND
10:28:46AM CRIME WATCH, CITIZEN COORDINATOR.
10:28:48AM TODAY I PROUDLY WEAR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CRIME WATCH SHIRT.
10:28:55AM AS I STATED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS HERE.
10:29:02AM WE STARTED BACK IN 2009 WITH EIGHT FAMILIES.
10:29:05AM WE HAVE GROWN TO OVER 30 FAMILIES AS A NEIGHBORHOOD
10:29:09AM ASSOCIATION CRIME WATCH GROUP AND WE LOVE WHAT WE DO.
10:29:15AM WE APPRECIATE WHAT WE DO.
10:29:17AM THE COMMUNITY APPRECIATES US.
10:29:20AM AND WE FEEL SOME SENSE OF PRIDE IN WHAT WE DO.
10:29:25AM WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.
10:29:27AM BACK IN 2009, WE WERE TRAINED ON REBECCA JONES.
10:29:34AM SOME OF YOU MIGHT KNOW HER.
10:29:36AM THIS WAS OUR BOOKLET.
10:29:39AM WE WERE BACKGROUND CHECKED.
10:29:44AM WE RECEIVED OUR TRAINING.
10:29:46AM AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE THE EYES AND EARS OF THE
10:29:50AM COMMUNITY FOR THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:29:53AM ATTENDING COUNCIL, E-MAILING COUNCIL HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE
10:30:01AM NORM.
10:30:01AM THE E-MAIL SENT ON YESTERDAY.
10:30:07AM I RECEIVED SOME NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE E-MAIL SENT BUT WE, THE
10:30:17AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OF JACKSON HEIGHTS FEELS THAT
10:30:20AM EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW -- EVERYONE THAT WE VOTED FOR, PEOPLE
10:30:25AM WE DIDN'T VOTE FOR, PEOPLE THAT ARE ON OUR SIDE, THAT DON'T
10:30:28AM LIVE IN OUR BOUNDARIES.
10:30:30AM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:30:32AM EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW.
10:30:33AM THE E-MAIL SENT YESTERDAY WAS BASED ON THE COMMUNITY REPORT
10:30:37AM THAT I RECEIVED.
10:30:38AM WE ARE ASKING FOR MORE POLICE.
10:30:48AM BY UNDERSTAND -- WE UNDERSTAND THERE IS A SHORTAGE.
10:30:51AM BUT WE ARE ASKING FOR MORE POLICING UP AND DOWN 34th STREET
10:30:57AM CORRIDOR FROM COLUMBUS DRIVE TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
10:31:01AM THE INCIDENT THAT WAS E-MAIL TO YOU IT WAS IN.
10:31:08AM HIGH -- IN MY WRITING WAS ACCURATE IRREGARDLESS OF WHAT
10:31:15AM OTHERS MIGHT SAY, THAT WAS THE REPORT THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME.
10:31:18AM AND I WROTE IT DOWN AS THEY STATED.
10:31:24AM WE ARE ASKING FOR OLD-STYLE POLICE COMMUNITY POLICING.
10:31:30AM THAT IS FOOT PATROL.
10:31:32AM RIDING THROUGH IN YOUR CAR, I DON'T KNOW.
10:31:40AM I DON'T KNOW.
10:31:42AM BUT WE NEED FOOT PATROL.
10:31:44AM WE REALLY NEED THAT.
10:31:45AM AND WE NEED MORE POLICE OFFICERS UP AND DOWN THAT AREA.
10:31:49AM THAT IS A HOT SPOT.
10:31:52AM THERE IS -- I AM SO SORRY.
10:31:54AM THERE IS A GREAT AMOUNT OF US WHO WORK FROM HOME.
10:31:57AM WE MUST REMAIN PRODUCTIVE.
10:31:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MA'AM, DID THE CHIEF OF POLICE CONTACT
10:32:03AM YOU?
10:32:05AM >> NO, HE DID NOT.
10:32:06AM BUT I WAS CONTACTED.
10:32:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE AND I SPOKE THIS MORNING.
10:32:12AM AND CALVIN JOHNSON IS GOING TO BE GIVING US A REPORT LATER
10:32:17AM ON IN THE DAY UNDER STAFF REPORTS AND HE WILL RESPOND TO THE
10:32:21AM E-MAIL.
10:32:21AM >> THE E-MAIL?
10:32:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND OTHER ISSUES.
10:32:24AM WHEN I SPOKE TO THE CHIEF THIS MORNING, HE TOLD ME TO LET
10:32:27AM YOU KNOW.
10:32:28AM AND I SPOKE TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:32:29AM IT WILL COME UP LATER IN THE DAY, BUT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING
10:32:33AM IT.
10:32:33AM >> I WASN'T A AWARE OF THAT, BUT I CAN ONLY COME DURING
10:32:37AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:32:38AM I HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK.
10:32:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:32:40AM >> I JUST WANTED TO STATE -- MY STATEMENT.
10:32:43AM I WANTED TO COME AND MAKE MY STATEMENT TODAY.
10:32:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:32:47AM >> IF THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DO, REACH OUT TO
10:32:51AM YOU ALL.
10:32:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, ALWAYS REACH OUT TO US.
10:32:55AM ALWAYS LET US KNOW.
10:32:56AM E-MAIL.
10:32:56AM ALWAYS -- MY OFFICE IS HERE FOR YOU, YES, MA'AM.
10:32:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:33:00AM I RECEIVED THE E-MAIL.
10:33:01AM I CALLED CHIEF BERCAW RIGHT AWAY LAST NIGHT.
10:33:05AM AND HE SAID WE HAVE SOMEONE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT TODAY.
10:33:08AM SO --
10:33:10AM >> THANK YOU.
10:33:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF -- LIKE I SAID IT WILL BE LATER AND YOU
10:33:14AM MAY HAVE TO WATCH THE REBROADCAST IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE AT
10:33:18AM WORK.
10:33:18AM BUT -- BUT I WILL HAVE KELLY SHARP TAKE NOTES AND BE ABLE TO
10:33:24AM GIVE YOU A CALL AND LET YOU KNOW.
10:33:25AM >> THANK YOU.
10:33:26AM WE JUST NEED HELP OUT THERE.
10:33:28AM IT'S -- CRIME AS IT IS TODAY IS NOT LIKE IT WAS IN 2009.
10:33:33AM IT'S -- IT IS CONTINUOUS.
10:33:35AM WE ARE TALKING BULLETS FLYING.
10:33:37AM INNOCENT PEOPLE BEING HIT.
10:33:39AM I WANT TO LIVE.
10:33:45AM I WANT TO LIVE UNTIL GOD CALLS ME HOME, NOT UNTIL THERE IS
10:33:49AM AN ACCIDENT AND I AM CAUGHT UP IN IT.
10:33:52AM AND I DON'T WANT TO SELL MY HOUSE.
10:33:56AM I DON'T WANT TO MOVE.
10:33:57AM THIS IS MY THIRD HOUSE.
10:33:58AM I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SELL AND MOVE.
10:34:00AM PEOPLE ARE TELLING ME, WELL, YOU JUST NEED TO MOVE.
10:34:04AM I AM NOT MOVING.
10:34:04AM THANK YOU.
10:34:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERYBODY DESERVING TO FEEL SAFE AT HOME
10:34:10AM AND WE HEAR YOU.
10:34:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:34:12AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:34:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, BOBBY KRATEN.
10:34:16AM I LIVE AT 1213 EAST 3rd AVENUE.
10:34:20AM I WAS VERY HEARTENED TO HEAR THAT FDOT OR FDOT IS PLANNING
10:34:26AM MORE EAST-WEST CONNECTIONS ACROSS TAMPA.
10:34:29AM I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE TRIES TO MAKE IT FROM ARMATURE WORKS
10:34:34AM TO NORTH FRANKLIN.
10:34:35AM HAVING TO TAKE YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS RUNNING ACROSS THE
10:34:40AM STREET IS NO FUN.
10:34:41AM SEGUES INTO PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:34:43AM I WAS ACTIVE ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE WHEN THAT WAS
10:34:48AM AROUND.
10:34:48AM I WANTED TO COME HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT A PUBLIC SAFETY
10:34:51AM MASTER PLAN.
10:34:51AM I KNOW SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT ON COUNCIL AND I WANT TO
10:34:57AM VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THAT TODAY.
10:34:58AM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE COMMENDATIONS.
10:35:00AM I BELIEVE -- AND GIVING CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.
10:35:03AM OUR DISTRICT 3 COMMUNITY LIAISON ANTHONY HOPKINS HAVE DONE A
10:35:09AM FABULOUS, FABULOUS JOB.
10:35:12AM DETECTIVE WILLIAMS IS IN THE AUDIENCE AND AN ASSET TO THE
10:35:16AM EAST TAMPA CRA AND WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE HIM ON OUR SIDE.
10:35:19AM BY WANTED TO -- CATCH YOU UP ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE
10:35:25AM HAD DISCUSSION IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE THAT I
10:35:27AM WOULD HOPE TO STILL SEE COME FRUITION.
10:35:31AM THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE INCLUDED IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY
10:35:34AM MASTER PLAN WHEN THAT ALSO COMES TO FRUITION.
10:35:37AM PUBLIC SAFETY IS A VERY, VERY BROAD ISSUE.
10:35:40AM NOT ONLY IT INCLUDES GUN VIOLENCE, POLICING AND FIRE SAFETY,
10:35:45AM BUT EVEN THINGS LIKE STREETLIGHTS, WELL MAINTAINED PARKS,
10:35:50AM RESPECTABLE ENVIRONMENTS, COMMUNITY SUPPORT SYSTEMS, FAMILY
10:35:56AM SUPPORT SYSTEMS, ACCESS TO JOBS.
10:35:58AM RELIABLE AND SAFE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS, ROADWAY SAFETY,
10:36:02AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PROBABLY MOST OF ALL ECONOMIC
10:36:07AM OPPORTUNITY.
10:36:07AM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET ALL OF THAT INTO ONE PLAN.
10:36:11AM HOPEFULLY YOU CAN AND MAKE STRIDES IN ADVANCE OF THOSE
10:36:15AM GOALS.
10:36:15AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
10:36:17AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
10:36:19AM I THINK TPD HAS BEEN DOING A FABULOUS JOB WITH THE ROLL
10:36:24AM CALLS.
10:36:24AM I LIKE THE TOWN HALLS.
10:36:26AM THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY LIAISON LIKE I SAID BEFORE
10:36:31AM HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT.
10:36:32AM I THINK AN AREA THAT WE CAN DO REALLY MORE IS TARGETING THE
10:36:36AM NEXT GENERATION, SO THE YOUTH.
10:36:37AM INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF ENGAGEMENT THAT TPD HAS WITH THE
10:36:43AM YOUNGER GENERATION SO WHEN THEY COME UP, THEY HAVE A
10:36:46AM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT POLICING IS.
10:36:47AM AND A DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE POLICE.
10:36:50AM I THINK WE ARE POSITIONED HAVE I WELL RIGHT NOW WITH DR.
10:36:54AM CHAFE BERCAW TO GIVE HIS ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL INPUT ON
10:36:59AM THE MASTER PLAN AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT COME TO
10:37:02AM FRUITION.
10:37:03AM I GOT TO GIVE MY PLUG FOR EAST TAMPA.
10:37:05AM WHEN THERE IS A MASTER PLAN COME THROUGH, A SPECIAL SECTION
10:37:09AM IN FOR EAST TAMPA AND WE NEED IT AND DESERVE IT.
10:37:12AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:37:13AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:37:16AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:37:17AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:37:21AM WE DON'T NEED NO POLICE.
10:37:22AM WE NEED REPARATIONS.
10:37:24AM WE NEED REPARATIONS.
10:37:25AM NO BLACK PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT POLICE OUT OF THEIR MIND.
10:37:29AM PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
10:37:30AM WHAT DO WE NEED THE POLICE FOR?
10:37:32AM NOTHING.
10:37:32AM ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING.
10:37:35AM THEY AIN'T DID NOTHING FOR US.
10:37:36AM THEY ARE SLAVE CATCHERS AND HAVE BEEN SLAVE CATCHERS AND
10:37:41AM WILL CONTINUE TO IT BE SLAVE CATCHERS.
10:37:43AM DON'T COME HERE TALKING THIS GARBAGE NEED MOVING ARE POLICE.
10:37:46AM REPARATIONS, $3 MILLION PER PERSON.
10:37:49AM TOO DEHUMANIZED TO BE INSULTED.
10:37:53AM MONKEYS HANGING AT FIRE STATIONS.
10:37:55AM AFRICANS SAVAGELY ATTACK BY POLICE DOGS.
10:37:58AM AFRICANS SODOMIZED, WATER BOARDED AND TORTURED.
10:38:03AM BILLIONS GOING FOR UKRAINE AND NOTHING FOR OUR REPARATIONS.
10:38:06AM AFRICANS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA DESCRIBED A PURE DOSAGE OF
10:38:11AM INDIGNATION BY THE FLORIDA BOARD OF EDUCATION AND FLORIDA
10:38:15AM GOVERNOR RON DeSANTIS AND NEW REVISED TEACHING STANDARDS FOR
10:38:19AM STUDENTS IN FLORIDA SCHOOL WILL BE TAUGHT THAT ENSLAVED
10:38:21AM BLACK PEOPLE, QUOTE, DEVELOPED SKILLS WHICH IN SOME
10:38:25AM INSTANCES CAN BE APPLIED FOR THEIR PERSONAL BENNETT.
10:38:27AM VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS WAS IMMEDIATE LEAD DISPATCHED
10:38:31AM TO THE STATE OF FLORIDA IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO THE
10:38:33AM INDIGNATION.
10:38:34AM THE VICE PRESIDENT'S RESPONSE WAS EQUALLY INDIGNANT AS THE
10:38:39AM VICE PRESIDENT SAID SLAVERY TO WAS OFFENSIVE BECAUSE IT
10:38:43AM INCLUDED RAPE AND ABUSE.
10:38:45AM INTELLIGENT AS WELL LEARNED AS VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS
10:38:49AM SEEMS TO BE, ONE WOULD AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THAT THE VICE
10:38:53AM PRESIDENT WOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF
10:38:55AM SLAVERY IS THE 100% FACT THAT SLAVERY, CONVICT AND DEPRESSED
10:39:01AM WAGES WASN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR BUILDING OR CREATING CAPITALISM
10:39:05AM AND ALL OF THE LOCAL, NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL WEALTH,
10:39:08AM EUROPEAN, WHITE WESTERN CIVILIZATION AND NORTH AMERICA
10:39:12AM MANIFEST DESTINY ENJOYING FOR THE PAST 623 YEARS AND THE
10:39:16AM MANDATORY CONVERSATIONS OF REPARATIONS IN THE AMOUNT OF $3
10:39:20AM MILLION CASH PER AFRICAN PERSON ON EARTH SHOULD GO BEFORE
10:39:24AM ANY TALK OF SLAVERY.
10:39:27AM A 2023 COTTON PLANTATION PUT FORTH BY OUR BELOVED GOVERNOR
10:39:32AM RON DeSANTIS IN REFERENCE TO AFRICANS RESIDING IN FLORIDA.
10:39:36AM JOKE COME FROM A GOVERNOR THAT DENIED EVERY TIME WITH
10:39:42AM DeSANTIS.
10:39:43AM ROMANTICALLY REMOVES US UPWARDS FROM THE WHOLE CHICKEN
10:39:47AM PELVIC AREA TOWARD THE MISSING BREAST.
10:39:49AM I, TOO, WOULD HAVE SPECIAL HATRED FOR COCKS AND ROOSTERS
10:39:55AM REQUEST THOSE COCKS AND ROOSTERS WERE GIVEN TOP FIX THEIR
10:40:01AM GENDER AFFIRMING IDENTITY TO THE LARGE BREAST THAT I WAS
10:40:05AM COMMITTED TO FOR DEATH DO US PART WAS FULLY WINGED AND
10:40:10AM DEFEATHERED AND POSSESSED NO BREAST.
10:40:13AM OUR BELOVED GOVERNOR DeSANTIS.
10:40:16AM ONLY VEGETARIANS WILL BE INTERESTED IN THIS BREASTLESS
10:40:20AM CHICKEN.
10:40:20AM THANK YOU.
10:40:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:40:23AM YES, MA'AM.
10:40:24AM >> GOOD MORNING, ALLISON DUUCETTE FROM BARTLETT THOMPSON.
10:40:29AM 100 NORTH TAMPA FEET, SUITE 2050.
10:40:33AM I'M HERE TO RESERVE AN OBJECTION TO ITEM NUMBER 69 WHICH WAS
10:40:37AM PUT ON A NONPUBLIC HEARING AGENDA.
10:40:39AM WE SUBMITTED A WRITTEN OBJECTION THIS MORNING VIA E-MAIL.
10:40:44AM A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER.
10:40:46AM THERE IS A CONSIDERATION OF A -- OF A REVISED ORDER OF THE
10:40:50AM ZONING HEARING OFFICER.
10:40:53AM WE THINK IT IS ENTIRELY INAPPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER THAT
10:40:56AM QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER ON THE NONPUBLIC HEARING AGENDA AND
10:41:00AM ALSO HAVE OBJECTIONS TO THE ORDER AS WELL.
10:41:04AM AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT AND MAKE YOU
10:41:07AM AWARE OF THAT E-MAIL IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT SEEN IT.
10:41:09AM AND RESERVE OUR OBJECTION TO THE FORM OF THAT ORDER AND
10:41:13AM CONSIDERATION OVER IT THIS AFTERNOON.
10:41:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:16AM >> THANK YOU.
10:41:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:41:18AM >> GOOD MORNING ONE AGAIN.
10:41:20AM SHUGRET DOSS.
10:41:24AM AND WE WILL PASS THIS OVER TO YOU ALL.
10:41:26AM I HAVE THIS FOR YOU AS WELL.
10:41:28AM AND AGAIN AS I SAID BEFORE, I WILL KEEP COMING BACK UNTIL I
10:41:32AM GET THESE DOCUMENTS.
10:41:33AM I BROUGHT SOME VISUALS, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOME OF
10:41:37AM THIS.
10:41:37AM THIS IS THE DIRECT FILE.
10:41:43AM CAN YOU SEE THAT?
10:41:45AM HERE WE GO.
10:41:45AM DIRECT FILE.
10:41:46AM YOU SEE IT?
10:41:48AM JANUARY 31, 2017.
10:41:50AM I WAS CHARGED WITH PERJURY IN AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING.
10:41:53AM I NEED WHATEVER INFORMATION THIS POLICE OFFICER USED TO COME
10:41:57AM TO THE CONCLUSION I COMMITTED PERJURY.
10:41:59AM I NEED THE PROOF.
10:42:00AM HERE YOU SEE IT.
10:42:02AM IT IS CLEAR THAT I COMMITTED PERJURY.
10:42:06AM WHY I CAN'T GET THIS INFORMATION -- AND BY THE WAY,
10:42:10AM MENTIONED AND A BANKRUPTCY PROCEEDING THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE
10:42:14AM CIRCUIT COURT AND I THOUGHT THAT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN
10:42:18AM A FEDERAL COURT.
10:42:19AM ANYWAY, I NEED THAT PROOF AS WELL.
10:42:21AM HERE.
10:42:23AM IN HIS CRIMINAL REPORT AFFIDAVIT, HE SAID THAT I SIGNED AN
10:42:29AM AFFIDAVIT UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY AND ALSO HE CLAIMS THAT I
10:42:34AM OWN THE PROPERTY AND STILL OWNED IT ON THE DATE THAT HE
10:42:38AM FILLED OUT THIS APPLICATION -- THIS AFFIDAVIT STATING THAT I
10:42:43AM COMMITTED PERJURY.
10:42:44AM AND BY THE WAY, NOW WE HAVE THE UNREDACTED PART.
10:42:48AM YOUR LEAD WITNESS HAPPENED TO BE -- WHO IS NOW A RETIRED
10:42:52AM JUDGE.
10:42:52AM I NEED THE STATEMENT THAT THIS GUY MADE AND GOT THE CITY OF
10:42:57AM TAMPA'S POLICE DEPARTMENT INVOLVED IN A CASE INVOLVING ME.
10:42:59AM I AM TRYING TO FINISH MY BOOK, BY THE WAY.
10:43:02AM LET'S FORGET THE ONGOING LITIGATION.
10:43:05AM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, ADDITIONALLY -- WE ARE GOING TO
10:43:10AM KEEP GOING ON THROUGH HERE.
10:43:11AM HERE IS THE ONE COUNT OF PERJURY AGAINST ME CASE NUMBER
10:43:16AM 2017-CF 9089.
10:43:18AM THERE YOU GO.
10:43:19AM THAT IS THE -- THE AFFIDAVIT -- THE INFORMATION.
10:43:24AM BUT THEY PROBABLY DIDN'T THINK I WOULD FIGHT AS LONG AND AS
10:43:29AM HARD AS I DID.
10:43:29AM THEY PROBABLY THOUGHT I WOULD BUCKLE AND TAKE A PLEA JUST AS
10:43:35AM LONG AS MASTER DIDN'T PUT ME IN PRISON.
10:43:37AM BUT.
10:43:38AM I FOUGHT.
10:43:39AM AND YOU CAN HAVE THIS WELL.
10:43:41AM THE UNREDACTED REPORT -- I JUST GOT IT A COUPLE OF WEEKS
10:43:46AM AGO.
10:43:46AM AND AS YOU GO BACK TO PAGE -- THE NEXT PAGE IS -- I DON'T
10:43:52AM WANT TO MISS OUT ON THIS LAST COMMENT.
10:43:54AM THEY ADMITTED THAT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ME MAKING THE
10:43:57AM STATEMENT THAT THEY PROSECUTED ME FOR.
10:43:59AM SO I NEED YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO GET ME THAT INFORMATION.
10:44:03AM AND THE FACT THAT I DON'T HAVE THIS INFORMATION YET IS
10:44:07AM ALMOST AS RIDICULOUS AS SOMEBODY BELIEVING THAT THE PEOPLE
10:44:10AM WHO WERE THE ORIGINATORS OF SOCIETY BENEFITTED FROM BEING
10:44:14AM STRIPPED OF THEIR DIGNITY AND THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS
10:44:18AM WORLDWIDE.
10:44:18AM YOU CAN GO BACK TO AFRICA MORE THAN 10,000 YEARS AND FIND
10:44:22AM OUR HISTORY.
10:44:22AM I CHALLENGE YOU THE SAME THING IN EUROPE.
10:44:26AM SHOUT OUT TO JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
10:44:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:44:31AM YES, SIR.
10:44:31AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:44:35AM RICKY PETERIKA, EAST 7th AVENUE, DARK MOSS.
10:44:40AM LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
10:44:41AM BOARD CERTIFIED ARBORIST.
10:44:43AM REGISTERED ARBORIST AND PRACTICING IN THE CITY IN THE
10:44:49AM DIVISION OF FOREST FROM 2009.
10:44:51AM ITEM 60, SANTIAGO TREE AND SIDEWALK.
10:44:55AM I WAS CONSULTING ARBORIST FOR THE REZONING REQUEST FOR BOTH
10:44:59AM FACES OF THE RITZ-CARLTON PROJECT.
10:45:01AM AND CONSULTANT SERVICES THROUGH CONSTRUCTION.
10:45:06AM THE FREE IN QUESTION IS A 50-INCH SOUTHERN LIVE OAK.
10:45:11AM SIDEWALK PROPOSED WITHIN THE DRIPLINE AND THE DESIGN TEAM
10:45:15AM ASKED ME TO ASSIST IN REDUCING CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS TO THE
10:45:18AM TREE.
10:45:18AM THROUGH CALLS, SITE VISITS ,AND MEETINGS I COORDINATED WITH
10:45:22AM THE CIVIL ENGINEER AND THE CITY'S MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO
10:45:25AM REDESIGN THE STREET PROFILE BASED ON THE TOO HE'S EXISTING
10:45:28AM ROOT SYSTEM.
10:45:29AM WE IMPLEMENTED MULTIPLE INFRASTRUCTURE-BASED STRATEGIES TO
10:45:33AM REDUCE CONSTRUCTION IMPACTS, STRATEGIES BY THE BEST
10:45:38AM MANAGEMENT PRACTICE PUBLICATION ON ROOT MANAGEMENT.
10:45:41AM STRATEGIES INCLUDED REDUCING THE SIDEWALK WIDTH AND SHIFTING
10:45:46AM THE ROADWAY SOUTH TO INCREASE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE TREE
10:45:49AM AND THE SIDEWALK.
10:45:50AM DESIGNING A CUSTOM CURB AT GRADE TO AVOID CUTTING ROOTS.
10:45:53AM RAZING THE CURB AND SIDEWALK TO PROVIDE VERTICAL CLEARANCE.
10:45:59AM UTILIZING IMPERVIOUS GRAVEL BASE BENEATH THE SIDEWALK TO
10:46:05AM GIVE BETTER ROOT ACCESS.
10:46:07AM A AND MODIFYING THE ROADWAY DETAILING WITHIN THE DRIPLINE TO
10:46:11AM MINIMIZE EXCAVATION AND ROOT DAMAGE.
10:46:14AM AND REGRIDDING THE ROADWAY PROFILE AS FLATTER TO MINIMIZE
10:46:17AM EXCAVATION.
10:46:18AM WE HAD THE SURVEYORS SURVEY ROOT I SPECIFICALLY SPRAY
10:46:24AM PAINTED TO DESIGN THE ROADWAY OFF OF.
10:46:26AM MORE BROADLY, MY FIRM HAS IDENTIFIED OVER 100 GRAND TREE
10:46:31AM SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION CONFLICTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IN THE
10:46:35AM PAST YEAR.
10:46:35AM WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON RESOLVING TREE AND INFRASTRUCTURE
10:46:39AM CONFLICTS IN MULTIPLE UTILITY AND DRAINAGE CORRIDORS IN THE
10:46:43AM CITY TODAY.
10:46:44AM THIS WEEK.
10:46:45AM THIS MONTH.
10:46:46AM EVERY DAY.
10:46:47AM WHILE IT IS BOTH PROFESSIONALLY AND PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE
10:46:50AM TO PREDICT WITH ABSOLUTE UNCERTAINTY THE BEHAVIOR OF ANY
10:46:54AM SINGLE TREE OR GROUP OF TREE IN ALL GIVEN CIRCUMSTANCES, THE
10:46:57AM POTENTIAL FOR SUCCESSFUL TREE PRESERVATION ENHANCED WITH
10:47:01AM STRATEGIES LIKE THOSE IMPOSED HERE THAT ARE USED.
10:47:05AM THERE ARE MANY MORE SITUATIONS WHERE THESE STRATEGIES WILL
10:47:08AM BE REQUIRED TO RESOLVE MORE TREE AND INFRASTRUCTURE
10:47:12AM CONFLICTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
10:47:14AM THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
10:47:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DURING THE STAFF REPORT, CAN WE HAVE
10:47:24AM SOMEONE LIKE THIS COME BACK --
10:47:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T HAVE A PUBLIC -- DON'T HAVE A
10:47:28AM PUBLIC COMMENT ON STAFF REPORT.
10:47:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO OPPORTUNITY TO QUESTION THE PERSON?
10:47:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
10:47:35AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:47:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
10:47:37AM AND PLEASE RULE ME OUT OF ORDER IF -- I KNOW YOU ARE A
10:47:42AM PROFESSIONAL.
10:47:43AM I KNOW DO YOU GREAT WORK.
10:47:44AM YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR QUITE A PERIOD OF TIME.
10:47:47AM WHEN YOU MENTION ALL THE THINGS THAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THIS
10:47:50AM TREE ON YSABELLA.
10:47:51AM I WOULD IMAGINE SOME CONSTRUCTION NEARBY, AM I CORRECT?
10:47:57AM WHAT I AM SAYING IF THERE WAS NO CONSTRUCTION, NO REASON FOR
10:48:00AM THE TREE TO BE LOOKED AT BECAUSE THE TREE HAS BEEN HEALTHY,
10:48:02AM AM I CORRECT?
10:48:03AM >> RIGHT.
10:48:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AT SOME POINT.
10:48:06AM >> YES.
10:48:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE TREE.
10:48:15AM I WOULD ASSUME THAT TREE IS IN DANGER BY DOING SOMETHING
10:48:19AM AROUND IT CLOSE BY IN PROXIMITY.
10:48:21AM I AM NOT SURE.
10:48:22AM IF NOT, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE.
10:48:27AM >> WE -- THERE ARE MANY TREES CLOSE TO SIDEWALKS IN THE
10:48:31AM CITY.
10:48:32AM NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN AFFORDED THE ATTENTION AND DESIGN
10:48:35AM DETAILING TO REDUCE IMPACTS.
10:48:40AM I WOULD SAY 99% OF THEM HAVE NOT BEEN AFFORDED THE ATTENTION
10:48:45AM THAT WAS PROVIDED TO MINIMIZE IMPACT ON THIS TREE.
10:48:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE REASON I SAY THIS -- AND SOMETIMES A
10:48:53AM HOUSE AND WALK IN FAMILY MEMBERS AND I SEE A TREE IN
10:48:56AM BEAUTIFUL SHAPE.
10:48:57AM TEN YEARS LATER, THEY WANT TO PAVE NOT A CONCRETE BUT PAVERS
10:49:03AM ON THEIR DRIVEWAY AWAY FROM THE TREE.
10:49:04AM BUT EVEN THOUGH THE TREE MAY BE TEN FEET AWAY, ALL OF A
10:49:08AM SUDDEN THE PAVERS.
10:49:10AM YOU NEED A GRADER TO DRIVE THE CAR IN BECAUSE THEY ARE FIVE
10:49:15AM OR SIX INCHES ABOVE BECAUSE THE ROOTS NOW HAVE PROTRUDED
10:49:18AM INTO THAT AREA AND CREATED SOME TIME OF A DISCOMFORT FOR
10:49:22AM EVERYONE.
10:49:23AM SO BUT IF THE PAVERS WERE NEVER THERE, THE TREE WOULDN'T BE
10:49:29AM -- A CULPRIT OF SOMETHING BECAUSE THE TREE WAS THERE WAY
10:49:32AM BEFORE THE PAVERS.
10:49:33AM THAT'S ALL.
10:49:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM SORRY -- SINCE WE ARE GOING TO GO
10:49:40AM HERE.
10:49:40AM I ACTUALLY -- I DID A SITE VISIT YESTERDAY.
10:49:44AM YOU SAID THE CURB WAS PUT AT GRADE LEVEL.
10:49:46AM IT IS NOT.
10:49:46AM I TOOK PICTURES YESTERDAY.
10:49:48AM IT IS WELL ABOVE GRADE LEVEL.
10:49:50AM YOU SAID THE STREET WAS POSITIONED TO THE SOUTH.
10:49:52AM IT LOOKS LIKE THE STREET IS EXACTLY WHERE IT WAS BEFORE.
10:49:54AM AND -- SO I DON'T SEE THE MITIGATION THERE.
10:49:57AM I RESPECT YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, BUT I -- AGAIN, JUST
10:50:05AM OPINION.
10:50:05AM IS -- DID YOU EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR DOING SOMETHING
10:50:08AM OTHER THAN A CONCRETE SIDEWALK OVER THE ROOT SYSTEM OF THIS
10:50:11AM PARTICULAR TREE?
10:50:12AM >> WE CONSIDERED A FLEXI PAVED SIDEWALK, BUT BECAUSE THE
10:50:18AM CONCRETE -- BECAUSE THE CURB -- IT IS POURED ABOVE GRADE.
10:50:23AM WHEN -- WHEN I MENTIONED "AT GRADE" IT MEANS IT WAS POURED
10:50:29AM AT THE TOP OF THE GRADE ABOVE OPPOSED TO BELOW.
10:50:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT SIDEWALK,
10:50:40AM THEY ARE GOING TO DIG INTO --
10:50:42AM >> THEY WILL REPOUR THAT CURB HIGHER THAN IT ORIGINALLY IS.
10:50:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RIP OUT THE BRAND HAD BEEN NEW CURB.
10:50:48AM >> THEY WILL RIP OUT THE BRAND-NEW CURB.
10:50:50AM YES, COUNCILMAN.
10:50:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY DID YOU RULE OUT THE PERMEABLE
10:50:55AM SIDEWALK TO BE ABLE TO -- TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST GIVE THIS
10:50:59AM TREE -- THIS TREE IS MASSIVE.
10:51:01AM I MEAN, THIS IS A MASSIVE, MASSIVE TREE.
10:51:04AM BY THE WAY I DON'T REALLY CARE -- I AM COMING TO COUNCIL
10:51:08AM WITH THE PERSPECTIVE IT DOESN'T MATTER IF WE HAVE DONE
10:51:12AM THINGS WRONG 100 TIMES.
10:51:13AM SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO START SOME PLACE TO DO SOMETHING WRITE
10:51:17AM RIGHT.
10:51:18AM THAT IS HOW I AM TAKING MY POSITION ON COUNCIL DOESN'T
10:51:23AM MATTER 100 EXAMPLES WE HAVE DONE THINGS WRONG.
10:51:26AM PDs AND THINGS WE ARE DEALING WITH, SOME DAY YOU HAVE TO SET
10:51:31AM THE CLOCK AND SAY TODAY WE ARE GOING TO START DOING THINGS
10:51:36AM RIGHT.
10:51:36AM WHY DID YOU RULE OUT THE PERMEABLE SERVICES.
10:51:39AM >> THE CURB AS PROPOSED -- NORMAL CURB IS 12 INCHES IN THE
10:51:44AM GROUND.
10:51:44AM THIS CURB SITS FLAT ON THE GROUND AND CAN BE EASILY BE
10:51:47AM DEFLECTED IF A TIRE WOULD CONTACT IT.
10:51:51AM BECAUSE -- IT IS LIKE EXTRUDED WHEEL STOP AT THAT POINT LIKE
10:51:56AM YOU FIND IN THE FRONT OF A PARKING SPACE.
10:51:58AM SO TO REINFORCE THAT CONSTRUCTION, WE PROPOSED A UNIFIED
10:52:03AM SIDEWALK AND CURB CONDITION, WHICH WE CAN'T PROPOSE THAT
10:52:08AM WITH TWO DIFFERENT MATERIALS, A PERVIOUS MATERIAL.
10:52:11AM AND BECAUSE IT IS ONLY FOUR FEET WIDE, IT WAS MY
10:52:17AM PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT PERVIOUS FOR THAT SMALLER AREA,
10:52:20AM SINCE WE HAVE INCREASED BEYOND WHAT WAS NORMALLY PROPOSED
10:52:24AM FOR SIX WASN'T GOING TO PROVIDE THE BENEFIT RELATIVE TO THE
10:52:28AM OFFSET FROM A STRUCTURAL STANDPOINT.
10:52:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID YOU CALCULATE -- I THINK ONE OF THE
10:52:33AM THINGS THAT IS MOST REMARKABLE TO ME.
10:52:35AM YOU HAVE THIS EXISTING TOWNHOUSE STRUCTURE BUILT I DON'T
10:52:38AM KNOW WHEN --
10:52:39AM 1970.
10:52:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO 50 YEARS AGO.
10:52:42AM EXISTING SIDEWALK FROM THE TOWN HOUSE TO THE STREET.
10:52:45AM AND, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE YSABELLA THERE.
10:52:47AM THE AMOUNT OF GRASS FOR THE EXISTING CONDITION WAS VERY
10:52:52AM SMALL.
10:52:53AM FOR SUCH A MASSIVE TREE, YOU GOT A LOT OF IMPERMEABLE SPACE
10:52:59AM FOR THIS TREE ALREADY IN EXISTING CONDITIONS.
10:53:03AM ARE WE NOT AGGRAVATING AN EXISTING CONDITION AND MAKING IT
10:53:06AM WORSE?
10:53:11AM >> IN THE PLAINEST SENSE, THE TREE WOULD BENEFIT FROM LESS
10:53:17AM TURF AND LESS SIDEWALK AND LESS ROAD AND LESS TOWN HOME.
10:53:22AM THAT WASN'T WHAT I WAS ASKED TO SOLVE, COUNCILMAN.
10:53:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS A FOOD -- THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE
10:53:29AM THAT ANSWER OTHER THAN COSTS, A BETTER SOLUTION FOR A
10:53:39AM PERMEABLE SIDEWALK.
10:53:41AM THEY DID SUBSTANTIAL WORK OF THE SIDEWALK DOWN THE BLOCK.
10:53:45AM A LOT OF ROOM TO POUR A PERMEABLE SERVICE TO GIVE THAT TREE
10:53:49AM EVERY CHANCE IT HAS TO SURVIVE.
10:53:51AM WOULDN'T IT BE -- IF YOU WERE -- IF YOU HAD A WISH LIST AS
10:53:54AM AN ARBORIST AND SAVE TREES.
10:53:57AM WOULD A PERMANENT SOLUTION BE BETTER?
10:54:00AM >> FROM ONLY THE TREE, WATER ACCESS TO THE ROOTS, YES,
10:54:03AM PERMEABLE SOLUTION WOULD.
10:54:04AM WEIGHS THAT AGAINST THE CONSTRUCTION REALITIES AND -- AND
10:54:08AM ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS OF THE CURB TO FUNCTION AS A --
10:54:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE AN ARBORIST.
10:54:15AM NOT AN ENGINEER.
10:54:16AM >> I AM NOT TRYING TO OPINE ON THAT.
10:54:18AM I AM JUST TRYING TO SAY, YES.
10:54:20AM AND IF OVER WOULD.
10:54:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APPRECIATE THOSE ANSWERS.
10:54:24AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:54:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL GET A REPORT LATER ON IN THE
10:54:28AM DAY.
10:54:29AM I SEE MR. BHIDE ON BUT WE WILL WAIT FOR STAFF REPORTS.
10:54:33AM NEXT PERSON TO SPEAK.
10:54:35AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:54:36AM >> SAMUEL HORTMAN.
10:54:42AM 10208 SCALE AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:54:47AM I AM ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 60.
10:54:50AM AND THE TREE ISSUE.
10:54:51AM I AM THE ON-SITE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER FOR RELATED GROUP
10:54:56AM RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PROJECT.
10:54:59AM I HOPE THAT THE EARLIER TESTIMONY AND SUBSEQUENT TESTIMONY
10:55:06AM LEADS THE COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE NARRATIVE THAT THIS
10:55:09AM PROJECT HAS BEEN INCENTIVE TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND ESPECIALLY
10:55:15AM THIS TREE IS SIMPLY INCORRECT.
10:55:17AM RELATED -- RELATED DIRECTED THE CONTRACTOR TO STOP
10:55:24AM IMMEDIATELY ONCE HEARING CONCERNS OF OUR CITY AND OUR
10:55:34AM NEIGHBORS.
10:55:34AM I LIVE -- I WORK DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THAT, AND WE STOPPED
10:55:40AM EVEN THOUGH WE HAD A FULLY PERMITTED PLAN AND WAS ABLE TO
10:55:43AM CONTINUE WORKING.
10:55:44AM WE VOLUNTARILY STOPPED THAT WORK AT THAT TIME SINCE THEN, WE
10:55:51AM SPENT SIGNIFICANT TIME AND MONEY INCLUDING OVER $15,000
10:55:54AM TODAY IN DESIGN AND CONSULTING SERVICES REGARDING THIS
10:55:58AM SPECIFIC TREE.
10:55:59AM WE SPENT AN ADDITIONAL $20,000K OF CHANGES TO THE
10:56:04AM CONSTRUCTION WHICH DO SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE A CHANGE IN THE
10:56:08AM AGE ALIGNMENT OF THE ROAD.
10:56:09AM WE ARE HOPE TO SHOW YOU THE PREDISALIGNMENT AND NEW
10:56:12AM ALIGNMENT OF THE ROAD THAT WAS DISCUSSED WITH THE CITY
10:56:15AM ARBORISTS, OUR ARBORIST AND CIVIL DESIGN AND MOBILITY.
10:56:21AM A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED LASTLY NOT TO DISTURB
10:56:29AM ROOTS.
10:56:29AM THE PREVIOUS COMMENT SHOWED YOU WE DESIGNED THE ROOTS SO WE
10:56:34AM DIDN'T HAVE TO CUT INTO THE ROOTS FOR THE CURB.
10:56:38AM WE CHANGED THE CONSTRUCTION.
10:56:40AM WE ALSO -- IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE -- WE PAID FOR HOTEL
10:56:47AM SERVICES FOR OUR NEIGHBORS SO WE DID NOT HAVE TO CUT THE
10:56:51AM ROOTS.
10:56:51AM SO PAID FOR THOSE SERVICES.
10:56:55AM I ALSO -- MY TIME IS RUNNING OUT -- I WILL SAY WE UNDERSTAND
10:57:02AM THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE ARE DISRUPTIONS.
10:57:04AM WE WANT TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
10:57:06AM MY DOOR IS OPEN.
10:57:09AM ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS WERE HAVE MY NUMBER.
10:57:13AM THEY HAVE MY E-MAIL.
10:57:14AM WE JUST RESPECTFULLY SAY THAT WHEN THERE HAS BEEN SOME
10:57:17AM ISSUES, WE ARE TAKING CARE OF THEM AND WE TRY TO WORK WITH
10:57:21AM OUR NEIGHBORS AND TALK TO THEM RESPECTFULLY AND ANY
10:57:29AM ALLEGATIONS OUTSIDE OF THAT ARE LOOKED AT IN A BROADER
10:57:32AM CONTEXT.
10:57:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:57:34AM YES, SIR.
10:57:35AM >> BISCAYNE, BOULEVARD, MIAMI, FLORIDA.
10:57:42AM I AM ALSO HERE ON ITEM 60.
10:57:44AM I GO BY NAJD, DEVELOPMENT MANAGER ON RITZ-CARLTON OF TAMPA.
10:57:55AM THIS PROJECT WAS ADVERTISED AS MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD THAN
10:57:59AM SIMPLY TWO TOWERS AND TOWN HOMES.
10:58:00AM IMAGERY AND RENDERS HAVE BEEN ADVERTISED TO ALL SORTS OF
10:58:04AM PARTIES SHOW NEWLY PAVED STREETS LINED WITH OAK STREETS,
10:58:09AM SIDEWALKS, LIGHTING AND ETC.
10:58:10AM AS YOU GUYS KNOW, SANTIAGO PREVIOUSLY HAD NO SIDEWALKS, NO
10:58:15AM CURBS.
10:58:16AM CARS ILLEGALLY AND HAPHAZARDLY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
10:58:22AM A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE AND HARDLY ANY LIGHTING.
10:58:27AM A DANGER TO PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND WITH AS A BIG CONCERN.
10:58:30AM THAT DID COME UP IN CITY COUNCIL BACK THEN DUE TO THE
10:58:33AM UNFORTUNATE TRAGEDIES THAT HAPPENED AT THE TIME ON BAYSHORE
10:58:36AM AND AROUND BAYSHORE.
10:58:37AM EVERYONE ON COUNCIL AGREES THAT YOU GUYS KNOW BETTER THAN
10:58:41AM ANYONE THAT SOME PEOPLE DISAGREE WHAT GOES ON AROUND YOUR
10:58:44AM PROPERTY AND, OF COURSE, AS A DEVELOPER WE NEED OPEN EARS TO
10:58:48AM OUR NEIGHBORS.
10:58:49AM WE HIRED NOT ONE BUT TWO COMPANIES TO MAKE SURE ALL
10:58:52AM COMPLAINTS COME THROUGH THEM AND COME STRAIGHT TO ME.
10:58:54AM I HEARD EVERY SINGLE COMPLAINT IN THE LAST TWO AND A HALF
10:58:57AM YEARS DOING THIS PROJECT.
10:58:59AM I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE ACQUISITION.
10:59:01AM I WILL GOD WILLING BE HERE WHEN IT OPENS AND I HOPE YOU
10:59:05AM ATTEND THAT TO ME.
10:59:07AM WE MAY NOT AGREE WITH MISS COCHRAN WHAT IS GOING ON WITH HER
10:59:11AM PROPERTY AND I WILL ADDRESS THAT WE ARE LAYING A SIDEWALK ON
10:59:15AM HER TREE SO IT KILL IT IS AND WE DESTROYED 22 ACRES WORTH OF
10:59:19AM TREES.
10:59:21AM OUR PROPERTY IS FIVE ACRES.
10:59:23AM WE KEPT ALL THE TREES WE PROMISED TO KEEP.
10:59:26AM GRAND OAK IS ALIVE.
10:59:28AM WE DEVELOPED OUR PROJECT AROUND THE GRAND OAKS THAT ARE
10:59:33AM PROTECTED AND GATED AT ALL TIMES.
10:59:36AM TO HER CONCERN NOT BEING LISTENED TO IGNORED AND NO ONE
10:59:42AM CARING OF THE SIDEWALK.
10:59:42AM YOU HEARD THE EXPERT OPINIONS OF THE A ARBORIST AND WHAT SAM
10:59:47AM IS DOING TO KEEP THE TREE ALIVE.
10:59:48AM AS WE MENTIONED WE OFFERED HER $3600 TO BE PUT IN A HOTEL
10:59:52AM WHILE WE DID A SEWER SHUTOFF TO KEEP THE TREE ALIVE WHILE
10:59:55AM DOING THE TECHNICAL THINGS THAT RICKY MENTIONED.
10:59:58AM SO A LITTLE UNFAIR TO SAY SHE IS NOT BEING LISTENED TO OR
11:00:03AM THAT SHE IS UNAWARE OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING FOR THE TREE.
11:00:05AM LASTLY, WE KNOW CONSTRUCTION IS HARD.
11:00:08AM LIVING NEXT TO CONSTRUCTION IS ARGUABLY HARDER.
11:00:12AM WE ALWAYS HAVE MULTIPLE AGENCIES GO OUT TO ALL OF OUR
11:00:16AM NEIGHBORS AND MISS STOVAL AND THE PEOPLE ON MASON STREET AND
11:00:20AM JILL'S NEIGHBORS TO HAVE OPEN EARS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE
11:00:23AM PROCESS.
11:00:24AM WE UNDERSTAND WE WON'T ALWAYS PLEASE EVERYBODY AND FEAR WE
11:00:27AM CAN'T ALWAYS PLEASE EVERYBODY, BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRY.
11:00:30AM THANK YOU.
11:00:30AM AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:00:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:39AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:00:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AFTER WE FINISH PUBLIC COMMENT -- I CAN'T
11:00:46AM REMEMBER YOUR NAME.
11:00:47AM MR. RELATED FROM BISCAYNE BOULEVARD.
11:00:49AM CAN I MEET WITH YOU AFTER -- OUTSIDE?
11:00:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOCTOR.
11:00:54AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:00:55AM IS IT STILL MORNING?
11:00:57AM YES.
11:00:57AM [LAUGHTER]
11:01:00AM THIS IS EARLY FOR ME.
11:01:01AM I AM CAROLYN COLLINS, I AM CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
11:01:06AM FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION INC.
11:01:10AM I NOTED THAT THERE WAS AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
11:01:13AM I ALSO NOTED THAT IT WAS RECEIVED AND FILED AND MAY BE
11:01:17AM COMING UP AUGUST 24, I THINK.
11:01:20AM BUT IN THE EVENT IT WAS DISCUSSED TODAY AND THERE IS THAT
11:01:24AM BOARD, I WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
11:01:28AM I TALKED TO MY BOARD MEMBERS.
11:01:29AM PARTLY THE COMMUNITY CHURCHES.
11:01:32AM I AM GETTING A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF CALLS SINCE THE JUNE
11:01:37AM MEETING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AGAIN.
11:01:39AM AND I WANT TONIGHT THANK THE CITY FOR THE SOUL WALK AND
11:01:43AM IDENTIFYING AND PRIORITIZING AS THE JACKSON HOUSE AS BEING
11:01:47AM ONE OF THE FIRST MARKERS.
11:01:48AM A PUBLIC THANK YOU TO YOU, CHAIR, AND ALL BOARD MEMBERS, THE
11:01:52AM MAYOR AND EVERYONE THAT WAS AFFILIATED WITH THAT.
11:01:55AM I WANT TO JUST SIMPLY ADDRESS THAT ORIGINAL MOTION THAT WAS
11:01:59AM INITIATED IN JUNE AND THE IT POSSIBLY OF THE CITY BUYING THE
11:02:07AM JACKSON HOUSE AND FILING EMINENT DOMAIN IN ORDER FOR US TO
11:02:11AM GET THE PROPERTY WE NEED, THE EASEMENT TO COMPLETE THE
11:02:15AM CONSTRUCTION BEFORE THE HOUSE COMPLETELY COLLAPSED.
11:02:17AM EVEN IF IT COLLAPSED, BE ASSURED THAT WE ARE REBUILDING WAY
11:02:27AM OUT OF CONSTRUCTION PHASE.
11:02:31AM WE ARE BUILDING.
11:02:32AM BEFORE EMINENT DOMAIN CAN GO THROUGH IT.
11:02:36AM READ STATUTE 175.
11:02:39AM AND I LIKE WHAT IT SAID AT THE END.
11:02:41AM IT SAYS THE CONDEMNING AUTHORITY MUST ATTEMPT TO NEGOTIATE
11:02:45AM IN GOOD FAITH.
11:02:46AM THE ELEMENTS OF WHATEVER IS IN EMINENT DOMAIN.
11:02:53AM YOU HAVE TO HAVE PRIVATE PROPERTY.
11:02:55AM YOU MUST BE ABLE TO TAKE SOMETHING AWAY.
11:02:57AM YOU MUST USE PUBLIC USE.
11:02:58AM AND MUST BE JUST COMPENSATION.
11:03:00AM WE DON'T WANT TO SELL THE JACKSON HOUSE.
11:03:03AM WE DON'T NEED THE COMPENSATION.
11:03:05AM THE DAMAGE FOR US WOULD BE FAR WORSE THAN IT WOULD BE GOOD.
11:03:10AM AND I WILL ASK THE BOARD WHEN YOU CONSIDER THIS, TO KIND OF
11:03:13AM TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
11:03:14AM WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF IMMINENT DOMAIN.
11:03:20AM THE REASON WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR AND THE BOARD SAID TO MAKE IT
11:03:25AM EXPLICITLY CLEAR.
11:03:27AM THAT IS SOMETHING -- THE MEDIA HAS BEEN ASKING ME -- AND I
11:03:31AM SAY LAST RESORT.
11:03:32AM SOMETHING THAT HAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
11:03:35AM COMMUNITY FOR YEARS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
11:03:37AM WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE A POSITIVE PROJECT LIKE THE JACKSON
11:03:41AM HOUSE TO DO POSITIVE THINGS IN TAMPA AND USE A NEGATIVE LAW
11:03:46AM TO TRY TO GET IT.
11:03:47AM NOT EVEN AGAINST SOMEONE ELSE, BE THIS THE ACARDIS OR ANYONE
11:03:55AM ELSE.
11:03:55AM WE WANT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO CONTINUE THE NEGOTIATION
11:03:58AM BE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT IS BEING POSITIVE.
11:04:00AM FIND OUT WHAT -- I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS?
11:04:03AM WHY HE.
11:04:03AM MY INTENT TO KEEP SAYING IT BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO SETS OF
11:04:08AM PLANS WE REQUESTED.
11:04:08AM WHETHER A NARROW HOUSE OR A WIDE HOUSE, THE JACKSON HOUSE
11:04:11AM WILL BE REBUILT AT 851 ZACK STREET AND I JUST NEED THE
11:04:16AM SUPPORT OF THE COUNCIL AS YOU -- THAT IS TO CONSIDER TO
11:04:19AM ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY.
11:04:23AM AND I WILL KIND OF CLOSE IT BECAUSE MY TIME IS UP.
11:04:26AM WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS NOTHING DESTRUCTIVE.
11:04:28AM WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING THAT IF CONTRIBUTING AND WE WANT TO
11:04:31AM DO IT IN A WAY THAT WE CAN REBUILD AND RETURN THE JACKSON
11:04:36AM HOUSE OUT OF OUR MOTTO TO INSPIRE FUTURE GENERATIONS.
11:04:42AM WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOUR HELP.
11:04:45AM BUT THE BOARD WANTS ME TO TELL YOU THAT EMINENT DOMAIN IS
11:04:49AM NOT SOMETHING WE ARE INTERESTED IN.
11:04:51AM WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING THE HOUSE.
11:04:52AM WE APPRECIATE THE MOTION.
11:04:53AM WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORT.
11:04:55AM BUT SELLING THE HOUSE TO THE CITY OR THE CITY TAKE IT FROM
11:04:59AM US, WE DON'T KNOW.
11:05:00AM SELL THE HOUSE AND TAKE THE PROPERTY IN EMINENT DOMAIN.
11:05:03AM IF YOU DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE NEED FOR IT TO BE
11:05:07AM IMPLEMENTED.
11:05:07AM WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GETS HOUSE BACK.
11:05:10AM AND WHEN CAN HE CONTINUE WITH WHAT WE ARE DOING AND 825 ZACK
11:05:16AM STREET.
11:05:16AM LEGAL IMPLICATIONS WILL BE ANOTHER TWO YEARS AND THE HOUSE
11:05:19AM WILL BE ON THE GROUND AND BUILD IT FROM THE GROUND UP.
11:05:21AM SO PLEASE SUPPORT US.
11:05:22AM TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER LAWS AND BILLS THAT ARE OUT
11:05:26AM THERE THAT SHOULD ALLOW US TO MOVE FORWARD AND WORK MORE
11:05:29AM COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE ACCARDIS.
11:05:34AM I SAY THE ACARDIS BECAUSE THAT IS THEIR PROPERTY.
11:05:39AM WE NEED THE SIMPLE EASEMENT SO WE CAN MOVE AND WE HAVE
11:05:43AM EVERYTHING READY TO GO.
11:05:44AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:05:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO
11:05:49AM SPEAK?
11:05:49AM IF NOT, THE VIRTUAL PARTICIPANTS.
11:05:51AM HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE ON LINE?
11:05:54AM >>CLERK: WE HAD FOUR BUT --
11:05:56AM [INAUDIBLE]
11:06:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, ALL RIGHT, IS KURT DRSTVENSEK THE FIRST
11:06:04AM INDIVIDUAL?
11:06:05AM KURT, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, UNMUTE YOURSELF.
11:06:07AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
11:06:09AM >> I BELIEVE YOU CAN HEAR ME.
11:06:13AM KURT DRSTVENSEK, A RESIDENT OF MIAMI.
11:06:17AM DIRECTOR OF THE RELATED GROUP, THE DEVELOPER OF THE PROJECT
11:06:21AM ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
11:06:23AM THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND APOLOGIZE DUE TO TRAVEL SCHEDULES
11:06:26AM I COULDN'T BE THERE IN PERSON.
11:06:28AM I AM SPEAKING REGARDING ITEM 60 ON TODAY'S AGENDA, THE
11:06:31AM SIDEWALK INSTALLATION AND EXISTING TREE LOCATED ACROSS THE
11:06:34AM STREET FROM OUR PROJECT ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
11:06:37AM YOU HEARD EARLIER FROM MY COLLEAGUES, CONSULTANTS AND A
11:06:41AM MEMORANDUM ISSUED JULY 19 TO THE CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE
11:06:46AM CITY COUNCIL FROM RELATED REGARDING THIS ISSUE.
11:06:50AM I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES TO DISCUSS OUR COMMITMENT
11:06:53AM AND VALUES.
11:06:53AM OUR ENTIRE COMPANY IS DEDICATED TO THE TAMPA BAY REGION.
11:06:57AM OUR GROUP, MARKET RENTAL AND ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL AS ALONG
11:07:03AM WITH OUR PHILANTHROPIC.
11:07:07AM AND OUR RETAILERS AND NEIGHBORS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
11:07:12AM WE HAD CONTINUOUS COMMUNICATION WITH NEIGHBORS THROUGHOUT
11:07:15AM THE PROCESS AND CONSTRUCTION TO DATE.
11:07:17AM WE MADE MANY ACCOMMODATIONS OF THIS PROJECT AND WE
11:07:20AM UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING GOOD NEIGHBORS AND
11:07:22AM LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:07:23AM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW ITEMS REGARDING THE
11:07:27AM COMMITMENT OF THE OVERALL COMMUNITY AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:07:29AM OUR COMPANY MADE OVER $1.5 BILLION COMMITMENT TO TAMPA,
11:07:34AM INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF OVER -- EXCUSE ME 200
11:07:37AM AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING UNITS, AND WE CREATED THOUSANDS OF
11:07:42AM JOBS NOT ONLY CONSTRUCTION BUT PERMANENT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
11:07:45AM A MILLION DOLLAR CASH GIFT TO THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART AND
11:07:48AM DONATION OF COUNTLESS PIECES OF ART AS WELL.
11:07:50AM ADDITIONALLY RELATED IS INVESTING OVER $8 MILLION OF
11:07:55AM IMPROVEMENT TO THE PEDESTRIAN UNDERPASS OF THE KENNEDY
11:07:59AM BOULEVARD BRIDGE.
11:07:59AM WE ARE COMMITTED TO TAMPA.
11:08:01AM WE BELIEVE WE ARE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WE STRIVE TO BE EVEN
11:08:03AM BETTER ONE.
11:08:04AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING UNDER THE APPROVED PD PLAN.
11:08:09AM AND YOU HAVE MY ASSURANCE THAT WE WILL CONTINUE THE OPEN
11:08:14AM LINE OF COMMUNICATION WITH NEIGHBORS IN THE CITY.
11:08:16AM THANK YOU.
11:08:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:08:18AM NEXT WE HAVE STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:08:22AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:08:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.
11:08:27AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:08:29AM REALLY, I WANT TO TOUCH ON THE RELATED GROUP THINGS.
11:08:33AM BECAUSE WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A LAND USE ATTORNEY ABOUT
11:08:36AM THAT AND ABOUT POSSIBLY BUILDING SOME SORT OF STRUCTURE OVER
11:08:40AM THE TREE ROOTS.
11:08:42AM MONTHS AGO.
11:08:44AM I CAN LOOK IT UP WHEN I GET HOME, BUT I FIND IT INTERESTING
11:08:48AM THAT EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED.
11:08:50AM AND WE WERE TOLD A TOTALLY DIFFERENT STORY BY THE LAND USE
11:08:54AM ATTORNEY.
11:08:54AM MAYBE I AM WRONG.
11:08:55AM MAYBE I AM CONFUSED.
11:08:56AM BUT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.
11:08:58AM SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
11:09:00AM I THINK FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THE RELATED GROUP SHOULD
11:09:04AM HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK AT THE TIME AFTER STAFF HAS SPOKEN
11:09:07AM TO JUSTIFY WHAT WAS GOING ON.
11:09:09AM THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS TAMPA FIRE AND
11:09:12AM RESCUE.
11:09:13AM I SPENT SOME TIME YESTERDAY MORNING ENJOYING MYSELF ON LAKE
11:09:18AM MICHIGAN AND LISTENING TO IT THE BOARD OF COUNTY
11:09:22AM COMMISSIONERS WORKSHOP LAST WEEK WHERE THEY HAD A
11:09:24AM PRESENTATION FROM THEIR FIRE RESCUE UNIT.
11:09:26AM I WAS JUST ABSOLUTELY IMPRESSED.
11:09:32AM AND THEY ARE NOT WORKING OFF OF A NEW MASTER PLAN.
11:09:35AM WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS TAKING THE OLD MASTER PLAN AND REWORK
11:09:41AM WITH THEIR OWN STAFF WHO KNOW THE MOST ABOUT THEIR OWN
11:09:44AM COMMUNITY.
11:09:44AM I -- I PERSONALLY THINK THAT CHIEF TRIPP PROBABLY NEEDS
11:09:51AM SOMEBODY WHO CAN DO TWO THINGS.
11:09:53AM ONE, LOGISTICAL FORECASTING AND SETTING UP A LOGISTICAL PLAN
11:09:59AM FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
11:10:01AM THE SECOND THING THAT PERSON WOULD DO ONCE THAT IS SET IN
11:10:04AM PLACE IS DOING GRANT WRITING.
11:10:06AM I SEE PROBABLY 10 TO 15 GRANTS FOR TAMPA PD FOR EVERY ONE WE
11:10:11AM SEE FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
11:10:12AM WHY DO WE NOT HAVE AN EMPLOYEE DOING THAT ON REGULAR BASIS
11:10:16AM AND SEARCHING OUT FUNDS TO SUPPORT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE?
11:10:20AM I ALSO THINK THAT THE REPORT CONTRASTS GRAMMATICALLY WITH
11:10:26AM WHAT THE UNION PRESENTED AT THE SAME BASIC TIME.
11:10:29AM I WAS -- I THINK IT IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT -- LET'S GO
11:10:33AM BACK TO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE DISCUSSION AGAIN BECAUSE WE
11:10:36AM CAME OUT WITH AT THAT VERY, VERY GOOD PLAN BECAUSE EVERYBODY
11:10:42AM SAT DOWN AT THE TABLE.
11:10:43AM I THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE FITCH PLAN, THE UNION
11:10:46AM PLAN, THE UNION, AND CHIEF BENNETT AND MAYBE SOME OTHER
11:10:50AM FOLKS, MAYBE COUNCILMAN VIERA SITTING AT THE TABLE AND
11:10:54AM MEDIATING ALL THIS SITUATION AND COMING UPA PLAN THAT IS
11:10:58AM BEST FOR OUR CITY.
11:10:59AM INSTEAD OF SPENDING A BUNCH OF MONEY FOR ANOTHER STUDY THAT
11:11:02AM WILL TAKE ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS.
11:11:04AM WE HAVE -- WE HAVE THE BRAIN TRUST.
11:11:06AM WE HAVE THE BASIC INFORMATION TO BUILD ON.
11:11:09AM SO WHY DID WE HAVE TO GO AND BUY SOMETHING ELSE FROM
11:11:13AM SOMEBODY ELSE.
11:11:13AM AND I THINK THAT EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL SHOULD TAKE A FEW
11:11:18AM MINUTES -- I THINK IT TOOK 30 MINUTES -- TO LISTEN AND WATCH
11:11:22AM THE JULY 25 MEETING.
11:11:24AM IT IS ABOUT 35 MINUTES INTO THE YOUTUBE VIDEO.
11:11:27AM AND LET'S TPD DOING RFPs BECAUSE WE SAVE MONEY ALL THE TIME.
11:11:33AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
11:11:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HAVE A GREAT DAY.
11:11:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, FIVE SECONDS.
11:11:37AM I WAS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTY COMMISSION
11:11:40AM YESTERDAY.
11:11:40AM BECAUSE THEY RECOMMENDED 28 NEW FIRE STATIONS THROUGH THEIR
11:11:44AM MASTER PLAN.
11:11:44AM AND DURING MOTIONS.
11:11:47AM BUT FYI, YEAH, I AGREE.
11:11:50AM THANK YOU.
11:11:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:11:53AM NEXT UP, MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
11:11:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:11:58AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
11:12:00AM I AM WITH THE WEST TAMPA CAC.
11:12:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS CONTINUE TO RECOGNITION
11:12:08AM FROM THE STATE.
11:12:08AM I SAW THAT EARLIER.
11:12:10AM I WANT TO SAY THAT.
11:12:11AM >> OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:12AM I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:12:13AM I LOST MY THOUGHT.
11:12:16AM ANYWAY, IT HAS BEEN A LONG DAY.
11:12:19AM VERY APPRECIATIVE.
11:12:20AM THE THINGS I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS, FIRST, THE UPDATE
11:12:24AM ON THE -- ON THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
11:12:27AM AS YOU KNOW THE WEST TAMPA CAC HAVE PARTNERED WITH THE
11:12:32AM FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION OVER THE NEXT FIVE
11:12:36AM YEARS TO BRING ABOUT 300 HIGH-PAYING JOBS.
11:12:42AM THOSE INDIVIDUAL CAN GO TO ONBOARDTAMPABAY.COM AND APPLY FOR
11:12:48AM A JOB.
11:12:48AM IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS, CONTACT THE WEST TAMPA CAC AND WE
11:12:53AM WILL WALK YOU THROUGH TAMPA.
11:12:54AM WITHER IN A CRISIS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
11:12:56AM WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW IS CHANGING THE CURRENT TIME BY DOCTOR
11:13:07AM CLAIMS THE.
11:13:09AM AND ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, AND CHAT GPT.
11:13:17AM THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOST EFFECTED BY THIS.
11:13:21AM AND LIMITED EDUCATION UNEMPLOYED.
11:13:25AM LOW NORTH CAROLINA, FIXED NORTH CAROLINA, SENIOR CITIZENS
11:13:31AM AND IN THE HOUSEHOLD.
11:13:32AM PUTTING THE RECORD.
11:13:33AM AND THE HOMELESS.
11:13:36AM THESE PEOPLE HAVE.
11:13:40AM USING ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO THAT.
11:13:47AM AND IN ORDER TO DO IT.
11:13:50AM I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT UPCOMING NEXT MEETING 23rd ON LINE.
11:14:00AM EVERYBODY GIVE AN UPDATE.
11:14:04AM I KNOW WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT CRIME ESPECIALLY AS IT
11:14:07AM RELATES TO GUN VIOLENCE.
11:14:08AM WE WANT TO TALK OF UPDATES TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECTS AND
11:14:22AM THE PROJECTS IN WEST TAMPA.
11:14:23AM WE ARE ALSO GOING TO TALK ABOUT TECHNOLOGY FOR THE NEXT
11:14:26AM GENERATION.
11:14:27AM PLEASE CONTACT US IN WEST TAMPA CAC@ GMAIL.COM.
11:14:36AM WE ARE CHANGING THE NARRATIVE.
11:14:39AM THANKS AGAIN.
11:14:39AM I APPRECIATE YOU.
11:14:40AM HAVE A NICE DAY.
11:14:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:14:43AM NEXT UP IS AILEEN HENDERSON.
11:14:46AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:14:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.
11:14:53AM >> LET ME START BY MENTIONING THE FIRST ANNUAL BELMONT
11:14:56AM HEIGHTS REUNION IS THIS SATURDAY AT CYRUS GREEN FROM 9 A.M.
11:15:01AM TO 2 P.M. AND YOU ARE ALL ARE INVITED.
11:15:06AM HERE ARE MY COMMENTS.
11:15:07AM CONTINUATION OF SUBCOMMITTEES.
11:15:09AM I HEARD THE BUZZ AND CERTAINLY RECOGNIZE DEATH BY MEETINGS
11:15:12AM OR COMMITTEE; HOWEVER, WITH THE CONTINUING GROWTH OF TAMPA,
11:15:15AM I AM NOT SURE ELIMINATING THESE SUBCOMMITTEES MAKE SENSE.
11:15:18AM MOST ESPECIALLY SINCE THESE ARE VOLUNTEER-BASED GROUPS.
11:15:22AM NOT POSSIBLE TO HIRE ENOUGH TIME TO MANAGE WHAT THE
11:15:25AM SUBCOMMITTEES ARE DOING.
11:15:26AM PERHAPS A BETTER SOLUTION IS TO EVALUATE THE CURRENT
11:15:29AM SUBCOMMITTEES, REVISIT THEIR POLICIES AND PROCESSES.
11:15:33AM AND FROM THERE, DEVELOPMENT A PLAN TO MAKE THEM MORE
11:15:36AM SUFFICIENT.
11:15:37AM AND MAYBE CONSIDER HIRING A DEDICATED STAFF MEMBER TO BE A
11:15:41AM LIAISON BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COMMITTEES.
11:15:43AM I THINK SO SOMETIMES WE UNDERESTIMATE THE VALUE OF
11:15:46AM VOLUNTEERS AND THAT INCLUDES ECONOMICALLY.
11:15:48AM IN THE 2021 VOLUNTEERING AND AMERICA REPORT, IT WAS
11:15:53AM ESTIMATED THAT VOLUNTEERS WERE VALUED AT 122.9 BILLION.
11:15:57AM THE SUBCOMMITTEE WITH COMMUNICATION.
11:16:09AM NUMBER 66, THE JACKSON HOUSE.
11:16:13AM DO THE RIGHT THING.
11:16:14AM THIS IS AN IMPORTANT OF TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY AND WE NEED TO
11:16:17AM FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION AND A COLLABORATION IS THE BEST WAY TO
11:16:21AM POSITIVELY AND PRODUCTIVELY MOVE FORWARD.
11:16:23AM FINALLY, I STRUGGLED LONG AND HARD FOR TALK ABOUT LAST
11:16:26AM WEEK'S SHENANIGANS AND I FELT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO SAY
11:16:30AM SOMETHING.
11:16:30AM THANKS TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SERVING AS THE CHAIR LAST
11:16:33AM WEEK AND COMMITMENT TO ALLOW CONSTITUENTS TO HAVE A VOICE.
11:16:37AM THIS QUORUM IS THE ONLY CHANCE TO SHARE OUR THOUGHTS, IDEAS
11:16:41AM AND COMMENTS THAT MAY BE DIFFERENT AS I HAVE PERSONALLY
11:16:45AM EXPERIENCE.
11:16:45AM I CAN BE APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS ON OCCASION CAN BE HARSH
11:16:50AM AND SOMETIMES EVEN UNTRUE, I RECOGNIZE THIS CAN BE A
11:16:54AM THANKLESS, DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR FROM AN ELECTED OFFICIAL IS
11:16:56AM UNACCEPTABLE.
11:16:57AM FOR ME WHILE I CAN FORGIVE PASSION GETTING IN THE WAY WHAT I
11:17:02AM CAN'T FOR GIVE AND FORGET THAT AN APOLOGY WAS NOT GIVEN TO
11:17:06AM COUNCIL, THOSE IN ATTENDANCE THAT DAY, THE CONSTITUENTS AND
11:17:10AM THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
11:17:12AM WE MUST DO BETTER.
11:17:13AM PLEASE, I BEG ALL OF YOU.
11:17:14AM WE JUST MUST BE BETTER AND WE MUST DO BETTER.
11:17:21AM I BELIEVE WE CAN AND WILL.
11:17:23AM COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AND WE APPRECIATE ALL OF
11:17:26AM YOU.
11:17:26AM HAVE A GREAT DAY.
11:17:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:17:29AM WE HAVE DAVE MECHANIK ON THE LINE AND HE IS ON IF THERE ARE
11:17:32AM ANY QUESTIONS FOR NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS TO CORRECT A
11:17:36AM SCRIVENER'S ERROR.
11:17:38AM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT?
11:17:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
11:17:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:17:44AM MR. MECHANIK, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING OR ARE YOU GOOD.
11:17:52AM >> MR. CHAIRMAN, DAVID MECHANIK FOR THE RECORD.
11:17:56AM THIS IS A ROUTINE ITEM.
11:17:58AM A SCRIVENER'S ERROR OF A LEGAL DESCRIPTION OF A PROPERTY YOU
11:18:02AM ZONED BACK IN JANUARY.
11:18:03AM I REALLY THIS NOTHING TO ADD OTHER THAN THAT TO BE HERE TO
11:18:11AM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:18:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER 5 ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR
11:18:19AM FIRST HEARING.
11:18:20AM ORDINANCE 2023-17 WHICH REZONED PROPERTY IN GENERAL VICINITY
11:18:26AM 6204 INTERBAY BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, IN
11:18:30AM ORDER TO CORRECT THE SCRIVENER'S ERROR UNDER LEGAL
11:18:34AM DESCRIPTION OF EXHIBIT A OF PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:18:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:18:39AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:18:40AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:18:42AM DO A ROLL CALL?
11:18:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:18:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:18:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:18:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:18:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:18:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:18:53AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY WITH CLENDENIN BEING
11:18:56AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:18:58AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION AUGUST 24, 2023 AT 9:30.
11:19:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL VIERA.
11:19:06AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE 6-8.
11:19:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:19:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
11:19:11AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:19:13AM ALL RIGHT.
11:19:13AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, IF YOU WOULD DO THE NEXT ONE.
11:19:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. CHAIR, I MOVE PARKS AND REC ITEM 9
11:19:22AM AND 10.
11:19:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
11:19:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:19:25AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:19:27AM NEXT UP, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:19:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, I MOVE ITEMS 11-27.
11:19:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:19:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:19:35AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:19:36AM FLAVOR FAVOR.
11:19:37AM ANY OPPOSED.
11:19:40AM ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:19:42AM CHAIR OF THE FINANCE.
11:19:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 28-33 I MOVE.
11:19:46AM >> SECOND.
11:19:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA WITH
11:19:50AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:19:52AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:19:55AM ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP, COUNCILMEMBER CARSON AND REMEMBER THAT
11:19:59AM ITEM NUMBER 38 IS A SUBSTITUTE SO WE HAVE CLARITY ON THAT.
11:20:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEMS 34-45 INCLUDING
11:20:12AM THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
11:20:13AM >> SECOND.
11:20:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:20:17AM 34-45.
11:20:20AM 45 WITH ITEM 38 AS A SUBSTITUTE.
11:20:24AM SECOND FROM DUNKIN' DONUTS MIRANDA.
11:20:25AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:20:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:20:27AM ALL RIGHT.
11:20:28AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN IS NOT HERE, SO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:20:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, I MOVE ITEM 46 AND 47.
11:20:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:20:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND
11:20:38AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:20:39AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:20:40AM ALL RIGHT.
11:20:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
11:20:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:20:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: QUICKLY ON SOME OF THESE.
11:20:48AM YOU ALL WERE BRIEFED THE SAME AS I WAS, MR. SPEARMAN FROM
11:20:52AM PURCHASING.
11:20:52AM MANY OF THESE HAVE -- HAVE A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE UPDATE.
11:20:55AM 100% MBE.
11:20:59AM I WANT TO THANK PURCHASING AND CITY STAFF FOR WORK SO HARD
11:21:03AM ON CHANGING THAT DYNAMIC.
11:21:04AM IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT FOUR YEARS AGO AND THEY WORKED HARD TO
11:21:07AM CHANGE IT.
11:21:08AM MAKE SURE WE HAVE CREDIT.
11:21:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:21:10AM I HAD A MEETING WITH THE ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS HOPE.
11:21:13AM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY MET WITH OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS AND
11:21:16AM ASKING OF MINORITY PRESENTATION AND I EXPLAINED BEGINNING
11:21:22AM WITH COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER BECAUSE HE INITIATED FOUR YEARS
11:21:29AM AGO TO UP THOSE NUMBERS.
11:21:30AM SOME OF THOSE CONTRACTS ARE COMING IN 100%.
11:21:32AM MANY TIMES WE HEAR 20, 30, 40%.
11:21:35AM SO I TOLD THEM THAT -- WE MADE STRIDES AS A CITY AND A
11:21:40AM COUNCIL.
11:21:40AM I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, SO IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
11:21:43AM THERE IS A LOT GOING ON IN TAMPA AND WE ARE SEEING MORE
11:21:47AM EQUITY ACROSS THE BOARD.
11:21:49AM VERY GOOD.
11:21:50AM YES, MA'AM.
11:21:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST A QUICK COMMENT ON THAT WELL BECAUSE
11:21:54AM I PUT IT IN MY FIRST NEWSLETTER.
11:21:57AM MINORITY PARTICIPATION MAY 1 THROUGH MAY 13 WAS OVER $18
11:22:02AM MILLION AND 24% OF THAT WENT TO MINORITY BUSINESSES WHICH
11:22:05AM INCLUDE BLACK, HISPANIC, WHITE WOMEN, AND SMALL BUSINESSES
11:22:10AM AND BLACK, WHITE, HISPANIC WOMEN AND SMALL BUSINESSES.
11:22:14AM SO THAT IS VERY EXCITING .THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
11:22:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:22:20AM SOMEONE MOVE THE RESOLUTION OF 48.
11:22:22AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 48 FOR AUGUST 31, 2023, 5:01,
11:22:27AM SEPTEMBER 21, 2023 AT 10:30 A.M. AT THE CHAMBERS OF OLD CITY
11:22:32AM HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, ZIP CODE,
11:22:37AM 33602.
11:22:37AM >> SECOND.
11:22:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:22:41AM YES, MA'AM?
11:22:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NEVER MIND.
11:22:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:22:44AM LET'S SET THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR FUTURE DATES.
11:22:46AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN ITEM --
11:22:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:22:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 48 -- 49, SORRY, 49
11:23:00AM MOTION WHICH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:23:02AM A SECOND?
11:23:03AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:23:04AM ALL IN FAVOR.
11:23:05AM AYE.
11:23:08AM A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING.
11:23:11AM HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 49, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR
11:23:15AM RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
11:23:16AM S ARE ALL THE PARTIES PRESENT FOR 49?
11:23:23AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: MR. PORTER IS WALKING IN RIGHT NOW.
11:23:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S WAIT FOR THE GENTLEMAN IF HE IS
11:23:28AM COMING IN.
11:23:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE A RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE
11:24:10AM WILL WEAR YOU IN.
11:24:10AM [SWEARING IN]
11:24:18AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD MORNING.
11:24:20AM CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE GOOD
11:24:25AM MORNING.
11:24:25AM ITEM NUMBER 5, FDN-22-148.
11:24:32AM A RECOMMENDED ORDER BY A HEARING OFFICER WHO CONDUCTED A DE
11:24:37AM NOVO REVIEW HEARING FOR A DENIAL OF A REQUEST.
11:24:44AM MICHAEL PIPER FILED AN APPLICATION FOR FORMAL DECISION IN
11:24:48AM CITY OF TAMPA CODE 27-53, WRITTEN DETERMINATIONS BY THE
11:24:53AM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE GODFREY HOTEL LOCATED 7700 WEST
11:24:58AM COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE
11:25:01AM PROPERTY IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SITE PLAN.
11:25:04AM SPECIFICALLY THE NOTE THAT NO PARTICULAR OUTDOOR CONCERTS
11:25:08AM EXCEPT FOR THE EXTENT THAT THE OWNER FILES AN APPLICATION
11:25:11AM AND RECEIVES PERMISSION FOR SPECIAL EVENT ON THE PROPERTY
11:25:15AM PURSUANT TO CODE SECTION 27-282.16.
11:25:20AM AND BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, I HANDED MR. SHELBY SOME
11:25:24AM RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS.
11:25:26AM AND JUST FOR THE RECORD, THOSE CODE SECTIONS 27-61 FOR THE
11:25:30AM REVIEW.
11:25:31AM CODE SECTION 27-282.16, TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENTS.
11:25:37AM CODE SECTION 27-54, PROCESS FOR APPLICATIONS FOR WRITTEN
11:25:42AM DETERMINATIONS AS FORMAL DECISIONS.
11:25:44AM 27-53, WRITTEN DETERMINATIONS BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
11:25:50AM AND FINALLY 1-3, WHICH ARE -- WHICH IS REGARDING DEFINITIONS
11:25:54AM OF WORDS NOT DEFINED.
11:25:56AM SO I HANDED THOSE FOR THE RECORD TO MR. SHELBY TO HAND OUT
11:26:01AM TO YOU, CITY COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:26:02AM SO MOVING ON.
11:26:04AM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR REVIEWED THE REQUEST FROM THE
11:26:09AM REGISTERED AGENT, THE AUTHORIZED AGENT.
11:26:13AM BASED ON THEIR CRITERIA ESTABLISHED IN CODE SECTION 27-54,
11:26:18AM PROCESS FOR APPLICATIONS FOR WRITTEN DETERMINATIONS AS
11:26:21AM FORMAL DECISIONS IN CODE SECTION 27-53.
11:26:24AM ADDITIONALLY, MR. COTTON REFERRED TO CODE SECTIONS
11:26:31AM 27-282.16, TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENT AND CODE SECTION 1-3,
11:26:35AM DEFINITIONS OF WORDS NOT DEFINED.
11:26:36AM ON OCTOBER 13, 2022, MR. COTTON CONCLUDED THAT THE PROPERTY
11:26:42AM IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPROVED SITE PLAN AS SHOULD
11:26:46AM BE 17-23.
11:26:47AM AS A RESULT OF MR. COTTON'S PETITION, A PETITION FOR REVIEW
11:26:53AM WAS FILED FOR MR. PIPER REGARDING MR. COTTON'S DECISION
11:26:56AM ACCORDING CODE SECTION 27-16, SUBSECTIONS IN C, THAT IS ON
11:27:03AM PAGE 1 OF THE HANDOUT ON 27-61 REVIEW.
11:27:06AM THAT IS WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS.
11:27:09AM I AM JUST GOING DOWN TO CHRONOLOGICALLY THE TIME LINE.
11:27:13AM ACCORDING CODE SECTION 27-61, THE SUBSECTIONS J 1A ON PAGE
11:27:22AM TWO OF THE HANDOUT ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE IF YOU TURN IT OVER,
11:27:25AM PETITION FOR REVIEW FOR A FORMAL DECISION SHALL BE HEARD BY
11:27:29AM A HEARING OFFICER.
11:27:30AM THE DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING BY THE HEARING OFFICER OCCURRED
11:27:35AM ON FEBRUARY 17, 2023.
11:27:37AM THAT PROCESS IS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.
11:27:40AM ED HEARING OFFICER DETERMINED IN HIS RECOMMENDED ORDER THAT
11:27:45AM THE PLAYING OF MUSIC DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A CONCERT UNDER THE
11:27:49AM CODE.
11:27:49AM AS SUCH, MUSIC ACTIVITIES WITH OR WITHOUT A DEEJAY WOULD NOT
11:27:54AM CONSTITUTE A TICKETED CONCERT.
11:27:56AM ADDITIONALLY, THE HEARING OFFICER CONCLUDED THAT THE
11:27:59AM ACTIVITIES AT THE GODFREY HOTEL ARE TICKETED EVENTS,
11:28:03AM ALTHOUGH NOT CONCERTS, WHICH MEET THE DEFINITION OF A
11:28:07AM TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENT UNDER THE CODE.
11:28:11AM ALTHOUGH NOT CONCERTS, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GET PERMITTED.
11:28:15AM THOSE ARE THE FINDINGS FROM THE HEARING OFFICER.
11:28:18AM AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR CITY
11:28:25AM COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF THE RECOMMENDED ORDER BY MR.
11:28:28AM BARNABY.
11:28:29AM THIS IS NOT BEFORE YOU FOR A DE NOVO REVIEW HEARING.
11:28:33AM ACCORDING CODE SECTION 27-61, SUBSECTIONS J 1E, THREE
11:28:44AM LITTLE I.
11:28:44AM CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE THE FOLLOWING STEPS: CITY COUNCIL
11:28:49AM ADOPT THE ORDER AS THE FINAL ORDER.
11:28:51AM OR YOU MAY MODIFY THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
11:28:54AM OR YOU MAY REJECT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
11:28:57AM THE CITY IS ASKING FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDED
11:29:00AM ORDER AS A FINAL ORDER IN FDN 22-148.
11:29:06AM ALSO ACCORDING CODE SECTION 27-61,J 1E, 2 LITTLE I.
11:29:15AM REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENTS CURRENT WITH THE FILING OF
11:29:19AM EXCEPTIONS.
11:29:19AM THAT HAS BEEN DONE REGARDING THIS MATTER BY MR. PORTER.
11:29:23AM THE CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY SHALL REVIEW THE REQUEST FOR ORAL
11:29:28AM ARGUMENT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHETHER THE REQUEST
11:29:32AM FOR ORAL ARGUMENT MEETS THAT CRITERIA.
11:29:34AM AND FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR.
11:29:37AM SHELBY AND WE WILL PROCEED ON.
11:29:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
11:29:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
11:29:45AM ATTORNEY.
11:29:46AM AND PURSUANT TO THE CODE, I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
11:29:50AM REVIEW THE EXCEPTION AND THE REQUEST FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
11:29:55AM IT IS MY RECOMMENDATION THAT IT DOES MEET THE CRITERIA.
11:29:58AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU WANT ME TO GO ANY FURTHER THAN THAT.
11:30:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, FAIR ENOUGH.
11:30:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO ALLOW ORAL
11:30:06AM ARGUMENT.
11:30:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
11:30:07AM WE NEED A MOTION OR PROCEED.
11:30:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION.
11:30:11AM WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS SAYING IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE
11:30:13AM TO ALLOW FOR ORAL ARGUMENT.
11:30:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION.
11:30:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CODE OF
11:30:19AM ORAL ARGUMENT.
11:30:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:30:22AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:30:24AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:30:25AM OPPOSED?
11:30:26AM ALL RIGHTY.
11:30:27AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:30:31AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
11:30:32AM JIM PORTER WITH ACKERMAN, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET, TAMPA.
11:30:37AM I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
11:30:39AM AS CAMARIA DESCRIBED TO YOU, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF
11:30:43AM ADDRESSING A FORMAL DECISION.
11:30:45AM WE HAVE A QUESTION OF A NOTE ON A SITE PLAN.
11:30:47AM WHERE HE FILED THE DETERMINATION.
11:30:48AM ERIC COTTON WROTE A DETERMINATION THAT WE DISAGREED WITH.
11:30:53AM WENT TO THE HEARING OFFICER.
11:30:55AM THE HEARING OFFICER AGREED WITH US ON THE FUNDAMENTAL POINT.
11:30:58AM AND WE FUNDAMENTALLY AGREE WITH THE CITY'S REQUEST WITH ONE
11:31:03AM LITTLE TWIST THAT I WILL GET INTO AND GIVE YOU CONTEXT AND
11:31:06AM UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
11:31:08AM IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY.
11:31:10AM THIS WAS FORMALLY KNOWN AS HOGAN'S BEACH.
11:31:13AM A LOT OF YOU AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WHO WAS ON THE COUNCIL
11:31:17AM AT THE TIME REMEMBER PROBABLY IN THE 2016, 2017 ERA, THERE
11:31:22AM WAS A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE PROPERTY.
11:31:24AM A LOT OF THE MEDIA REPORTS.
11:31:25AM AND IT WAS A REAL ISSUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITH THE
11:31:28AM CITY.
11:31:29AM AND AT THAT TIME IN 2017, GLORIA MOREDA, THE ZONING
11:31:35AM ADMINISTRATOR AT THE TIME, PLACED A CONDITION ON THE SITE
11:31:37AM PLAN WHICH IS THE REAL ISSUE WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY.
11:31:39AM I AM GOING TO READ THE CONDITION FOR YOU AND EXPLAIN WHY WE
11:31:44AM ARE HERE AND WHAT THE ISSUE IS.
11:31:45AM THE CONDITIONS SHE PUT ON THE SITE PLAN -- CAMARIA READ THIS
11:31:49AM AND I WILL READ IT AGAIN, NO OUTDOOR CONCERTS EXCEPT TO THE
11:31:53AM EXTENT THAT THE OWNER FILES AN APPLICATION AND RECEIVES
11:31:56AM PERMISSION FOR A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT ON THE PROPERTY
11:31:58AM PURSUANT TO SECTION 27-282.16.
11:32:03AM THAT IS THE QUESTION IN QUESTION.
11:32:04AM SINCE THAT TIME, THERE HAS BEEN NEW OWNERSHIP AND NEW
11:32:08AM MANAGEMENT AT THE PROPERTY.
11:32:09AM THEY HAVE TAKEN MAJOR STEPS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT
11:32:13AM RESULTED IN THE CONDITION IN THE FIRST PLACE.
11:32:14AM THEY HAVE POOL PARTIES WITH DEEJAYS THERE.
11:32:18AM THEY DON'T HAVE LIVE MUSIC EVENTS.
11:32:21AM THEY OPERATE MAINLY FROM MARCH TO OCTOBER, ONLY IN THE
11:32:25AM DAYTIME.
11:32:25AM THEY HAVE STRICT DRESS CODES AND YOU HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 21
11:32:29AM TO GO THERE.
11:32:30AM THOSE WERE SPECIFIC ACTIONS THE NEW OWNERSHIP AND NEW
11:32:33AM MANAGEMENT TOOK TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT RESULTED IN THE
11:32:39AM CONDITION.
11:32:39AM HERE IS WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING.
11:32:41AM THE OPERATIVE WORD IS CONCERT.
11:32:43AM THE CITY PLACED A CONDITION THAT SAID WE CAN'T HAVE TICKETED
11:32:47AM CONCERTS UNLESS WE GET A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.
11:32:50AM WELL, THE CODE DOESN'T DEFINE "CONCERT."
11:32:56AM IT IS NOT IN THE CODE.
11:32:57AM AND WE ARE LEFT TO FALL BACK ON THE COMMON MEANING OF
11:33:00AM CONCERT.
11:33:00AM OUR UNDERSTANDING IS A CONCERT IS A LIVE MUSIC EVENT.
11:33:04AM YOU WANT TO SEE ADELE -- YOU HAVE A LOT OF MONEY AND YOU
11:33:09AM WANT TO SEE ADELE, YOU BUY A TICKET AND SEE A LIVE MUSIC
11:33:12AM EVENT.
11:33:12AM WE DON'T HAVE ADELE AT OUR PROPERTY.
11:33:14AM IF WE DID, WE WOULD HAVE TO FILE FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
11:33:19AM WE HAVE A DEEJAY AND POOL PARTIES AND COMMON.
11:33:22AM MORE COMMON NOT ONLY IN THE CITY OF TESTIMONY BUT THROUGHOUT
11:33:28AM THE STATE AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
11:33:29AM YOU SEE THAT OFTEN.
11:33:30AM THE HEARING OFFICER MADE A SPECIFIC FINDING OF FACT OF OUR
11:33:34AM INTERPRETATION OF CONCEPT.
11:33:36AM ERIC HAD A DIFFERENT OPINION WHAT CONCERT MEANS.
11:33:39AM IT IS A VALID OPINION.
11:33:42AM WE DISAGREED AND THE HEARING OFFICER DISAGREED WITH IT AS
11:33:46AM WELL.
11:33:46AM A FINDING OF FACT, BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PLAYING OF MUSIC BY
11:33:50AM A DEEJAY DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A CONCERT UNDER THE CODE.
11:33:56AM THAT IS SPE SPECIFIC BECAUSE YOUR CODE DOESN'T ALLOW COUNCIL
11:33:59AM TO CHANGE FINDINGS OF FACTS.
11:34:01AM YOU CAN CHANGE THE CONCLUSIONS AND DENY, MODIFY THE ORDER OR
11:34:04AM ACCEPT THE ORDER.
11:34:06AM A FINDING OF FACT THAT THE HEARING OFFICER MADE.
11:34:08AM THE PROBLEM WE HAVE WHERE CITY AND CAMARIA AND ERIC AND I
11:34:14AM DISAGREE AT THIS POINT, THE HEARING OFFICER WENT BEYOND THE
11:34:17AM QUESTION WE ASKED AND SORT OF GRATUITOUSLY SAID EVEN THOUGH
11:34:22AM A NOT A CONCERT, WE HAVE TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT.
11:34:26AM THAT WASN'T AN APPROPRIATE FINDING ON HIS PART OR AN
11:34:29AM APPROPRIATE DECISION.
11:34:30AM WE WEREN'T ASKING THAT QUESTION.
11:34:31AM WE WERE ASKING WHETHER THE TERM "CONCERT" APPLIES HERE BASED
11:34:36AM ON WHAT WE ARE DOING.
11:34:36AM SO HE EXCEEDED THE SCOPE OF HIS AUTHORITY.
11:34:39AM SO OUR REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY IS TO APPROVE THE ORDER BUT
11:34:46AM STRIKING THE PART OF HAVING TO SEEK A PERMIT BECAUSE FROM A
11:34:49AM LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, THAT WASN'T IN FRONT OF HIM.
11:34:52AM AND IT WASN'T AN APPROPRIATE FINDING.
11:34:54AM THIS ISN'T APPEAR REZONING.
11:34:56AM TYPICALLY COUNCIL HAS A FULL UNIVERSE OF OPPORTUNITIES TO
11:35:00AM IMPOSE CONDITIONS AND TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT THINGS.
11:35:02AM THIS IS A VERY NARROW LEGAL ISSUE ON A SPECIFIC QUESTION.
11:35:07AM SO OUR BASIC REQUEST TO YOU TODAY IS TO MODIFY THE ORDER.
11:35:12AM I -- I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH THAT IF YOU -- IF MR. SHELBY'S
11:35:17AM REQUEST.
11:35:18AM I DRAFTED WHAT I THINK WILL BE APPROPRIATE IF YOU WANT TO
11:35:22AM LOOK AT IT, MR. SHELBY, IF YOU DECIDE IF COUNCIL WANTS TO
11:35:26AM PASS THAT OUT.
11:35:27AM STRIKING THAT.
11:35:29AM YOU CAN JUST -- THIS IS WHAT I AM PROPOSING.
11:35:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK QUESTIONS NOW,
11:35:37AM MR. SHELBY?
11:35:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UPON COMPLETION OF HIS PRESENTATION.
11:35:40AM >> I AM FINISHED AT THIS POINT.
11:35:42AM MR. MIKE PIPER WHO MANAGES THE PROPERTY IS ALSO HEAR AND WE
11:35:46AM HAVE OWNER REPRESENTATION THAT COUNCIL HAS SPECIFIC
11:35:49AM QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP.
11:35:49AM I REMIND COUNCIL, THIS IS LIMITED TO THE RECORD.
11:35:53AM WE HAD TWO PEOPLE SPEAK, A HUSBAND AND WIFE.
11:35:56AM I BELIEVE THEY ARE HERE TODAY.
11:35:57AM BUT COUNCIL IS LIMITED TO THE RECORD OF THE HEARING OFFICER
11:35:59AM BEFORE YOU TODAY.
11:36:00AM NOT A WIDE-OPEN HEARING.
11:36:02AM WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:36:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST TO CLARIFY.
11:36:07AM YOU SAID -- FROM 2017 WHEN GLORIA MOREDA WAS PRESENT.
11:36:13AM WAS IT HOGAN'S BEACH IN 2017?
11:36:17AM >> YES.
11:36:17AM NOW IT IS THE GODFREY.
11:36:19AM WITH NEW OWNERSHIP.
11:36:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I CAN'T ASK THIS QUESTION, STOP ME --
11:36:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK I AM ABOUT TO, BUT GO AHEAD.
11:36:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM LOOKING THE RECOMMENDED ORDER OF
11:36:31AM THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
11:36:32AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: RECOMMENDED ORDER OF THE SPECIAL
11:36:34AM MAGISTRATE.
11:36:35AM JUST FOR THE RECORD, YOU HAVE A HARD COPY OF THE RECOMMENDED
11:36:39AM ORDER OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
11:36:41AM AND, AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD THAT IS DATED THE 7th OF MARCH,
11:36:47AM 2023
11:36:47AM AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO CITE
11:36:52AM THE SECTIONS OF THE CODE.
11:36:53AM YOU MAY NOT MODIFY FOR REWEIGH THE EVIDENCE OR TAKE NEW
11:37:00AM EVIDENCE WITH REGARD TO FINDINGS OF FACT THAT HAVE BEEN MADE
11:37:05AM WITHIN THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
11:37:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:37:07AM NO, THIS RECOMMENDED ORDER UNDER EVALUATION AND
11:37:10AM RECOMMENDATIONS.
11:37:11AM THIRD PARAGRAPH, SAID FOR EXAMPLE BE, ON SUPER BOWL WEEKEND
11:37:15AM FOUR DIFFERENT DEEJAYS WERE BROUGHT IN TO PLAY MUSIC.
11:37:19AM WHAT IS THE CROWD SIZE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
11:37:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS OUTSIDE -- THAT IS A FINDING OF
11:37:25AM FACT.
11:37:25AM QUESTION, QUESTION IS WITHDRAWN.
11:37:27AM THANK YOU.
11:37:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WITHDRAW THAT.
11:37:30AM STRIKE IT.
11:37:30AM I WILL STOP THERE.
11:37:31AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:37:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HI, MR. PORTER.
11:37:36AM HOW ARE YOU.
11:37:36AM >> GREAT, THANK YOU.
11:37:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTION.
11:37:38AM I KNOW IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU -- YOU DISCUSSED THE TIMES
11:37:44AM THAT THESE EVENTS ARE -- THAT THESE EVENTS OCCUR.
11:37:47AM IF WE WERE TOP GRANT YOUR REQUEST, WOULD THAT -- WOULD THERE
11:37:52AM BE LIMITS ON THESE TIMES?
11:37:54AM OR SOMETHING RELEVANT TO THIS?
11:37:56AM >> NO, THAT IS NOT RELEVANT TO THIS.
11:37:58AM THAT IS NOT REALLY ADDRESSED IN THE CONDITION.
11:38:00AM I WILL JUST -- USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE TO SHOW THAT THEY
11:38:04AM TOOK WHAT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE AND TRIED TO CLEAN IT UP.
11:38:06AM THAT IS THEIR METHOD OF DOING IT.
11:38:09AM NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN CONTROL.
11:38:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN ACTUALITY IF WE WERE TO SAY -- IF WE
11:38:14AM WERE TO OVERRULE THIS AND DECLARE THAT THE DEEJAY EVENTS
11:38:20AM WERE -- WERE NOT CONCERTS, THE IMPACT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF
11:38:26AM THAT IS POSSIBLE THAT THESE PROPERTIES COULD DO THIS AT 3:00
11:38:30AM IN THE MORNING.
11:38:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, THAT IS OUTSIDE YOUR
11:38:35AM PURSUE AND THE SCOPE OF YOUR REVIEW OF THIS HEARING.
11:38:37AM IT IS NOT RELEVANT TO YOUR DECISION.
11:38:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, THANK YOU.
11:38:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT WITHIN THE CRITERIA.
11:38:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I RESCIND THAT QUESTION.
11:38:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:38:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: I APPRECIATE YOUR WAY OF DISAGREEING.
11:38:53AM YOU TALK OF THE EXCEPTION OF THE RULE ON THE SITE PLAN.
11:38:56AM AND YOU ASKED FOR US TO STRIKE THIS SECTION IN THE ORDER.
11:39:01AM WITH THE EFFECT OF STRIKING IT, WILL IT TAKE IF OUT OF THE
11:39:04AM SITE PLAN?
11:39:05AM >> NO, ABSOLUTELY STAY ON THE SITE PLAN.
11:39:06AM WE HAVE NO PROBLEM IF WE HAVE AN ACTUAL CONCERT FILING FOR A
11:39:10AM SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.
11:39:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE SECOND QUESTION IS, YOU TALKED OF THE
11:39:14AM AMBIGUITY AND DIFFERENCE IN THE DEFINITION OF THE TERM
11:39:19AM "CONCERT."
11:39:21AM IF WE STRUCK THAT, WOULDN'T DEFINE IT EVEN BETTER.
11:39:24AM WOULD WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE?
11:39:26AM >> NO, YOU WOULD NOT HAVE THE ISSUE.
11:39:27AM WHY WE ARE HERE BECAUSE OF THE AMBIGUITY, A SERIES OF CODE
11:39:31AM ENFORCEMENT ISSUES BECAUSE THE CITY STAFF WAS INTERPRETING
11:39:35AM CONCERT TO BE DEEJAY.
11:39:36AM WE COME TO CODE ENFORCEMENT AND TRIED TO ADDRESS IT.
11:39:40AM THIS IS THE WAY WE ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT.
11:39:42AM WE MADE A FORMAL DETERMINATION THAT THE CITY STAFF KNOWS WE
11:39:47AM ARE OPERATING UNDER THE SITE PLAN.
11:39:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: STRIKING THIS LANGUAGE WILL CONFIRM THE
11:39:52AM DEFINITION YOU APPLY TO CONCERTS?
11:39:55AM >> YES.
11:39:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
11:39:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:39:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ACTUALLY -- IS THIS THE CORRECT TIME TO HAVE
11:40:02AM QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
11:40:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE SO, YES.
11:40:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK ACTUALLY -- I AM SORRY, MISS
11:40:12AM PETTIS-MACKLE WILL BE BEST BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE
11:40:14AM ORDINANCE.
11:40:15AM HERE IT SAYS WORDS NOT DEFINED -- SORRY, LOOKING AT THE
11:40:18AM DEFINITION ARE WORDS NOT DEFINED.
11:40:20AM SAYS CLEARLY IN SECTION A, WORDS NOT SO DEFINED WILL HAVE
11:40:25AM THE MEANING STATED IN THE WEBSTER NINTH COLLEGIATE DITCH FAR
11:40:29AM IN PRE AS REVISED.
11:40:31AM DO YOU HAVE THAT DEFINITION, PERCHANCE?
11:40:33AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THE DEFINITION
11:40:37AM -- WHICH DEFINITION --
11:40:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR CONCERT.
11:40:40AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IN MR. COTTON'S FORMAL LETTER.
11:40:48AM MR. COTTON WILL PUT IT ON --
11:40:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SEE SOME OF IT.
11:40:53AM BUT I WAS JUST HOPING IT COULD HAVE THE FULL WEBSTER NINTH
11:40:57AM -- LIKE JUST -- OKAY.
11:40:59AM YES, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT.
11:41:01AM >>ERIC COTTON: CAN YOU SEE THAT?
11:41:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, NOT YET.
11:41:06AM >>ERIC COTTON: IT'S IN THE CONTROL ROOM.
11:41:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE CAN BRING UP THE OVERHEAD.
11:41:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, THAT IS WHAT I WAS SAYING.
11:41:19AM JUST PIECES.
11:41:20AM I WOULD ACTUALLY LOVE TO SEE IT --
11:41:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE CAN GET IT ON OUR SCREENS.
11:41:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FULL DEFINITION.
11:41:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:41:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: PUBLIC PERFORMANCE.
11:41:34AM SO THAT IS THE FULL DEFINITION.
11:41:36AM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
11:41:41AM YES, MA'AM.
11:41:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:41:43AM THAT WAS ALL THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
11:41:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:41:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:41:48AM IN LISTENING TO ALL THIS AND TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE
11:41:51AM HEARING MASTER AND SO FORTH AND SO ON, WHAT IS A CONCERT?
11:41:57AM WHAT IS NOT A CONCERT?
11:42:01AM NO MATTER WHAT WEBSTER SAYS, THE SEVEN INDIVIDUALS MO WERE
11:42:04AM THERE THEN THAT DECIDED TO DO SOMETHING TO SOME DEGREE,
11:42:08AM BECAUSE AT THE END, A CONCERT OR NOT A CONCERT PRODUCES
11:42:13AM SOMETHING THAT IS THE SAME THING AS PRODUCTION A OR B.
11:42:17AM THAT IS CALLED N-O-I-S-E MORE MUSIC, M-U-S-I-C.
11:42:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE SUBJECT OF NOISE IS NOT RELEVANT TO
11:42:31AM THIS DISCUSSION.
11:42:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STATEMENT BETWEEN WHAT IS A CONCERT AND
11:42:34AM WHAT IS NOT A CONCERT.
11:42:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE.
11:42:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE MEAT OF THE
11:42:40AM ORDER, BUT YOU CAN INTERRUPT ME ANY TIME YOU WANT.
11:42:44AM SO AT THE END, THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD "CONCERT."
11:42:48AM AM I CORRECTED?
11:42:50AM THE DEFINITION WHAT IS A CONCERT?
11:42:52AM YOU MAY GO TO ONE OF THESE FANCY CONCERTS WHERE THE TICKETS
11:42:55AM ARE $200.
11:42:56AM BY THE TIME YOU GO, IF YOU WERE LATE, 2,000 AND SOMEBODY IS
11:43:00AM MAKING $1800 ON A TICKET WHERE THEY WERE AN INVESTOR.
11:43:04AM THAT'S PAUL.
11:43:05AM SOMEONE IS FOOLISH ENOUGH TO PAY THAT KIND OF MONEY.
11:43:08AM SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS HERE, CONCERT CAN BE ONE INDIVIDUAL
11:43:15AM DOING SOMETHING ON STAGE.
11:43:16AM WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.
11:43:18AM IS THAT CLEAR?
11:43:21AM A NONCONCERT COULD BE ONE INDIVIDUAL OR MORE INDIVIDUALS
11:43:26AM WITH THE SAME RESULTS.
11:43:27AM SO AT THE END, IT HAS TO BE UP TO THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WROTE
11:43:32AM THIS LAW AT THE TIME THEY WROTE IT WHAT WAS ON THEIR MIND.
11:43:36AM WAS IT A CONCERT?
11:43:38AM WAS IT NOT A CONCERT?
11:43:39AM THAT IS THE WAY THEY READ THE CONSTITUTION TO TRY TO
11:43:42AM UNDERSTAND WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT THE TIME THEY WROTE IT AND
11:43:45AM WRITTEN THE WAY IT IS.
11:43:46AM SO ALTHOUGH I CAN'T SAY MUCH, I CAN SAY TO ME ANYWAY, IN MY
11:43:55AM OPINION, IT IS -- IT IS TICKETED CONCERT OR TICKETED ONE
11:44:02AM INDIVIDUAL.
11:44:03AM BUT NOT A CONCERT.
11:44:05AM SO IT IS GETTING MORE AND MORE INTO THE WOODS, BECAUSE YOU
11:44:09AM GOT TO GO BACK TO THE IS SIX OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE
11:44:12AM NEVER HERE TODAY.
11:44:13AM SO -- THEY MENTIONED THE WORD "GLORIA MOREDA AND I CAN SAY
11:44:18AM THAT GLORIA MOREDA WAS THE ONE THAT WAS REALLY INTO THE
11:44:23AM SEAWEED TRYING TO FIND OUT HOW TO MAKE SOMETHING APPLICABLE
11:44:27AM TO REACH THE AGREEMENT WHOEVER IT WAS BEFORE, THE LAGOON --
11:44:32AM WAS IT THIS GEORGE STEINBRENNER'S PLACE --
11:44:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN -- SORRY, MR. MIRANDA, I AM
11:44:40AM GOING TO ASK YOU TO RELY ON THE FINDINGS OF FACT THAT ARE IN
11:44:43AM THE -- IN THE RECOMMENDED ORDER WHICH YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF
11:44:46AM YOU AND APPLY THE -- THE --
11:44:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT LIKE COLOMBO
11:44:53AM SAID, BUT I HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO THAT.
11:44:55AM NOT TALKING OF THE CONCERT.
11:44:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ONLY THING I WILL ASK OF YOU AND THE REST
11:45:00AM OF THE BOARD STICK TO -- FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD THAT
11:45:04AM WE ARE BEING TRANSCRIBED, WE STICK TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF
11:45:07AM THE CODE.
11:45:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT WE HAVE HERE PAGE 5 OF FIVE, WHAT WE
11:45:12AM WILL TALK ABOUT CONCLUSION OF THE SUMMARY OF THE ACTIVITIES
11:45:14AM AT THE GODFREY HOTEL ARE TICKETING EVENTS ALTHOUGH NOT
11:45:18AM CONCERTS.
11:45:19AM THAT'S IT.
11:45:20AM RIGHT?
11:45:22AM THAT IS THE CONCLUSION?
11:45:25AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MIGHT BE IN QUESTION --
11:45:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS ONE LINE.
11:45:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF STAFF WITH THE
11:45:31AM SAME OPINION.
11:45:31AM >> THE REQUEST THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS, UNDER THE
11:45:35AM CONCLUSION WE PUT A PERIOD UNDER THE WORD CONCERT AND STRIKE
11:45:39AM EVERYTHING ELSE.
11:45:39AM THAT IS WHAT OUR REQUEST IS.
11:45:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT IS WHAT I READ.
11:45:43AM SORRY, I MISSED THAT QUOTE AND THE PERIOD.
11:45:46AM THAT IS THE ONLY THING WE ARE HERE ABOUT, ONE SENTENCE.
11:45:49AM >> THAT IS MY REQUEST, YES.
11:45:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
11:45:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:45:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE WITH THIS ASSESSMENT.
11:45:57AM I ASSUME IT WAS MADE OF WHERE THE CITY OF TAMPA GOING.
11:46:00AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT -- WE NEED PUBLIC
11:46:05AM COMMENT.
11:46:06AM NEVER MIND.
11:46:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD -- WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC
11:46:11AM COMMENT, MR. PORTER, YOU ARE.
11:46:13AM THAT IS THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION.
11:46:17AM >> YOU I WOULD RESERVE RIGHT FOR REBUTTAL BASE ON ANY
11:46:22AM COMMENT.
11:46:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HUE MUCH TIME ON THE REBUTTAL, DO WE KNOW?
11:46:28AM AND MR. PORTER, BEING -- REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER HAD TEN
11:46:34AM MINUTES.
11:46:34AM WHO IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM?
11:46:37AM HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON THIS ITEM?
11:46:39AM TWO PEOPLE?
11:46:41AM AND -- AND MISS PETTIS-MACKLE, WILL YOU ABLE TO INFORM ME
11:46:48AM BASED ON THE RECORD IF THEY ARE PARTY OR NONPARTY
11:46:51AM RECIPIENTS.
11:46:53AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: NONPARTIES.
11:46:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY GET TEN MINUTES APIECE PER THE CODE.
11:46:59AM I ASK YOU TO LISTEN TO THE ORAL ARGUMENT AND REFRAIN TO MAKE
11:47:03AM ANY JUDGMENT UNTIL YOU HAVE THE RECORD THAT YOU CAN RELY
11:47:06AM UPON WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR CONCLUSIONS.
11:47:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES SINCE
11:47:11AM YOU ARE A PARTY.
11:47:11AM YOU AS WELL, SIR.
11:47:12AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
11:47:18AM >> OKAY.
11:47:18AM GOOD MORNING.
11:47:19AM YES.
11:47:20AM GOOD MORNING, ALISON ROBERTS.
11:47:22AM I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND PARTY TO
11:47:26AM THIS FDN REQUEST.
11:47:29AM WE OBJECT TO THE PETITIONER'S APPEAL.
11:47:35AM AND --
11:47:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE CAN ACTIVATE THE OVERHEAD.
11:47:38AM PLEASE PULL IT DOWN SO WE CAN SEE IT.
11:47:42AM THERE WE GO.
11:47:45AM >> I DO HAVE OF TWO COPIES HERE.
11:48:04AM >> AND THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL USING MATERIALS IN TODAY'S
11:48:07AM HEARING.
11:48:07AM MODIFY THE ORDER TO SUPPORT THE CITY AND ITS FINDING THAT
11:48:11AM THE HOTEL'S ACTIVITIES CONSTITUTED OUTDOOR TICKETED CONCERTS
11:48:15AM AS REFERENCED IN THE SITE PLAN AND ADOPT THE REMAINDER OF
11:48:19AM THE RECOMMENDED ORDER AS THE FINAL ORDER.
11:48:22AM THE CORE ARGUMENT OF THE APPLICANT'S APPEAL OF THE HEARING
11:48:32AM MASTER EXCEED THE SCOPE OF HIS REVIEW.
11:48:35AM I AM GOING TO REFERENCE THE MATERIALS THAT WERE PROVIDED IN
11:48:41AM PAGE TWO OF THIS APPEAL.
11:48:43AM INDICATES THE QUESTION BEFORE THE CITY WHETHER MUSIC PLAYED
11:48:49AM FOR HOTEL GUESTS THROUGH A DEEJAY CONSTITUTES A TICKETED
11:48:53AM OUTDOOR CONCERT.
11:48:54AM IT IS NOT TRUE.
11:48:55AM IT IS NOT THE QUESTION BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
11:48:57AM THE JUNE 27 FDN REQUEST IS BROADER IN NATURE.
11:49:02AM THE COMMON DEFINITION OF A HOTEL GUEST IS SOMEONE WHO PAYS
11:49:07AM FOR LODGING SERVICES.
11:49:09AM WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT MUSIC FOR HOTEL GUESTS.
11:49:12AM THE RESTAURANT, WHICH IS MEANT TO SUPPORT THE HOTEL, AND HAS
11:49:15AM NO SUPPORTING CI USES IS BEING USED FOR PUBLIC ASSEMBLY.
11:49:19AM SECONDLY, THIS NOT JUST ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF A TICKETED
11:49:24AM OUTDOOR CONCERT.
11:49:25AM THE WORDING FROM THE JUNE 27 FDN REQUEST, WHICH IS IN
11:49:30AM EXHIBIT A, THE PETITIONER'S APPEAL PACKET SHOWS THAT THE FTN
11:49:39AM WAS DETERMINED IF THE BUSINESS IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
11:49:42AM SITE PLAN, REFERRING TO THE NOTE REGARDING TICKETED OUTDOOR
11:49:46AM CONCERTS AND THE NEED TO FILE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT.
11:49:49AM AS A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE INDICATED, PD ALSO CONTAINS BROADER
11:49:56AM LANGUAGE REGARDING THE NEED TO FILE SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS.
11:50:00AM THAT BROADER, OVERRIDING LONG WILL APPLY REGARDLESS OF HOW
11:50:04AM THE PETITIONER NITPICKS THE DEFINITION OF THE OUTDOOR
11:50:10AM CONCERT.
11:50:11AM THE NET-NET, YOU CAN CALL IT WHATEVER YOU WANT, BUT WHAT
11:50:15AM THEY ASKED FOR A FORMAL DECISION OF TEMPORARY SPECIAL
11:50:18AM EVENTS.
11:50:18AM AS SUCH, WE BELIEVE IT IS RELEVANT AND ANSWERS THE QUESTION
11:50:22AM BROUGHT TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AND TO HAVE IGNORED THIS
11:50:26AM WOULD HAVE ANSWERED ONLY HALF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BEING
11:50:30AM POSED AND CREATED MORE AMBIGUITY.
11:50:33AM THIS NOTION, SUGGESTED BY THE PETITIONER THAT CITY COUNCIL
11:50:36AM SHOULD AMEND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S ORDER BASED ON THEIR
11:50:39AM REWRITING, LIMITING THE SCOPE OF THE FDN ONE YEAR AFTER IT
11:50:43AM WAS SUBMITTED IS BEST PURPOSELY AND AT WORST PURPOSELY
11:50:50AM MISLEADING.
11:50:50AM OUR SECOND POINT ADDRESSES THE PETITIONER'S HOPE THAT THE
11:50:53AM ORDER CONTAINS AN ERRONEOUS LEGAL CONCLUSION.
11:50:57AM HONESTLY THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT HARDER FOR ME TO LOGICALLY
11:51:01AM WALK THROUGH.
11:51:02AM THE ONLY WAY TO HE CANS PLAIN THE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES ON
11:51:05AM THIS.
11:51:05AM I STILL BELIEVE A SPECIAL EVENT IS SPECIAL.
11:51:08AM SO MORE FORMALLY, I THINK IT IS TYPICALLY REFERENCES
11:51:14AM LANGUAGE AROUND LARGE EVENTS THAT DO NOT USUALLY OCCUR.
11:51:18AM WHEN A PETITIONER HOLDS ILLEGAL SPECIAL EVENTS EVERY WEEKEND
11:51:25AM FOR MOST OF THE YEAR, OFTEN -- CAN SOMEONE DIAL THIS OUT FOR
11:51:30AM ME?
11:51:31AM OKAY.
11:51:31AM CAN YOU HELP OUT?
11:51:41AM THANK YOU.
11:51:41AM TEMPORARY EVENTS EVERY WEEKEND EVERY WEEKEND OF THE YEAR.
11:51:49AM I GUESS THEY DON'T CONSIDER THEM SPECIAL ANYMORE.
11:51:53AM IT IS -- BUT IT IS RIDICULOUS THAT REPEATED AND FLAGRANT
11:51:58AM VIOLATIONS TO DISTURB GROUNDS FOR NORMALIZING THIS BEHAVIOR.
11:52:02AM IN LOOKING AT THE PETITIONER'S JUNE 27 -- THIS HERE.
11:52:07AM LOOKING AT THE PETITIONER'S JUNE 27, 2022 FDN REQUEST AGAIN,
11:52:14AM I WILL REFERENCE, THE BOTTOM PORTION THIS TIME.
11:52:17AM WE FIND REFERENCES TO OFFSITE VALET, LEASE AGREEMENT WITH
11:52:23AM SEPARATE PARKING GARAGE DOWN THE ROAD, SECURITY ARRANGEMENTS
11:52:26AM WITH A TPD AND SO FORTH.
11:52:29AM THIS SECTION READS LIKE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT APPLICATION.
11:52:33AM FURTHERMORE, I WILL REFER TO THE TESTIMONY AS MR. PIPER AT
11:52:36AM THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING.
11:52:38AM MR. PIPER TESTIFIED THAT -- GOING TO REFER TO THIS DOCUMENT.
11:52:42AM AND HERE IS THE TESTIMONY.
11:52:45AM MR. PIPER TESTIFIED THAT THEY HAD LOTS OF ISSUES WITH
11:52:54AM HOGAN'S WHEN THEY HAD 4,000 PEOPLE AND INADEQUATE PARKING
11:52:59AM AND REDUCED CAPACITY AND ADDED A VALET.
11:53:02AM THEY HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING FOR THEIR SPACE AND NEVER GO
11:53:06AM BEYOND THEIR FOOTPRINT.
11:53:07AM AGAIN, NOT TRUE.
11:53:08AM THEIR PD SHOWS THAT THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE HOTEL AND
11:53:15AM EMPLOYEES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE 315 SPACES.
11:53:18AM THEY HAVE A TOTAL OF 322.
11:53:20AM EVEN IF MR. PIPER SAID THEY REDUCED THEIR CAPACITY TO 2,000
11:53:25AM PEOPLE, THEY NEED MORE THAN SEVEN SPACES STILL.
11:53:28AM THE ENTIRE REASON THEY HAVE GONE OUTSIDE OF THEIR FOOTPRINT
11:53:31AM FOR PARKING OF THE FDN REQUEST AND THE TESTIMONY TO THE
11:53:35AM SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
11:53:35AM WE ARE LOOKING AT PUBLIC ASSEMBLIES OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
11:53:38AM OUTSIDE THE HOTEL USE, IT WILL BE NORMAL FOR THE CITY TO
11:53:42AM HAVE QUESTIONS RELATING TO TRAFFIC, SANITATION AND SOLID
11:53:45AM WASTE, PARTICULARLY WHEN THESE QUESTIONS HAVE A HISTORICAL
11:53:48AM CONTEXT THAT HAS BEEN ASKED AND ANSWERED BY THE CITY.
11:53:52AM THE FOLLOWING WAS SIT INNED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:53:56AM AND THE ADDITION AND -- THIS SHOWS -- GOES BACK TO MATERIAL
11:54:03AM THAT WAS PROVIDED BY -- BY MISS MOREDA BACK IN 2016.
11:54:10AM REFERENCES THAT THEY ARE NOT USING THE PROPERTY CORRECTLY
11:54:16AM FOR TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENTS.
11:54:18AM ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WAS PROVIDED WHEN THEY TRIED TO DO
11:54:21AM THEIR REZONING.
11:54:22AM AGAIN, FROM MRS. MOREDA TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE BEEN
11:54:28AM USING THE PROPERTY IMPROPERLY.
11:54:30AM AND THE NEED FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
11:54:33AM THIS IS WHAT LED TO THE PD THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU AND THE
11:54:37AM LANGUAGE.
11:54:38AM AND, IN ADDITION TO THE LANGUAGE, AND REASONS THAT WERE
11:54:43AM ACKNOWLEDGED -- ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE PETITIONER DURING THE
11:54:48AM HEARING WITH THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
11:54:50AM SO THERE IS NO AVOIDANCE OF DUE PROCESS.
11:54:54AM IT IS A FACT BASIS, RELEVANT IN ANSWERING THE APPLICANT'S
11:54:57AM QUESTION.
11:54:58AM BUT WHAT WAS NOT ACKNOWLEDGED IS MR. PIPER, THE ACTUAL BIER
11:55:02AM IN THIS CASE, HIS INTIMATE FAMILIARITY AND INVOLVEMENT WITH
11:55:07AM THESE ISSUES.
11:55:09AM PAGE 35 OF THE SWORN TESTIMONY FROM MR. PIPER INDICATES THAT
11:55:13AM HE WAS ONLY INVOLVED AFTER THE PD.
11:55:17AM PAGE 43 OF THE SWORN TESTIMONY SAYS THAT HE WAS NOT A MAJOR
11:55:23AM PLAYER IN ENTERTAINMENT OF HOGAN'S BEACH.
11:55:26AM AND SAYS -- BECAUSE HE DENIED THAT.
11:55:29AM AND GO BACK TO SLIDES PRESENTED IN DECEMBER OF 2014, SPECIAL
11:55:34AM COUNSEL FOR HOGAN'S BEACH.
11:55:37AM REGARDING THE SAME SITE, THE SAME ISSUES WITH TICKETED
11:55:42AM OUTDOOR EDM CONCERTS AND SHOWS THAT MR. PIPER, PIED PIPER
11:55:50AM PRODUCTIONS PLAYED A ROLE AND HAD NUMEROUS EDM CONCERT
11:55:54AM ADVERTISEMENTS.
11:55:55AM THE FIRST ONE THAT WE HAVE IS ACTUALLY THE BIKINI CONTEST.
11:56:00AM IT TOOK A COUPLE OF MONTHS.
11:56:03AM AND THEN HOGAN'S GOT THEIR BIG BREAK IN EDM CONCERT WHAT ALL
11:56:10AM THE RUCKUS WAS ABOUT.
11:56:12AM EDM CONCERTS, THE SAME THING WE HAVE WITH DEEJAYS.
11:56:16AM SEVERAL MONTHS LATER, THEN WE HAVE GOT PIED PIPER
11:56:22AM PRODUCTIONS -- I KNOW IT IS HARD TO READ BECAUSE I AM GOING
11:56:25AM BACK TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE MAKE SURE WE STAY CONSISTENT WITH THE
11:56:27AM RECORD.
11:56:28AM BUT HERE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT.
11:56:30AM I BLEW IT UP.
11:56:32AM AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT FROM THERE, WE JUST SAW A
11:56:38AM RAMPING UP OF THE PETITIONER'S INVOLVEMENT.
11:56:41AM I HAVE MARKED THESE AND PROVIDED THIS TO COUNCIL.
11:56:48AM YOU CAN SEE EXAMPLES.
11:56:49AM ANOTHER EDM CONCERT WITH PIED PIPER.
11:56:53AM ANOTHER EDM CONCERT WITH PIED PIPER.
11:56:57AM ANOTHER EDM CONCERT.
11:57:00AM PIED PIPER.
11:57:02AM ANOTHER ONE.
11:57:02AM ANOTHER ONE.
11:57:05AM ANOTHER ONE.
11:57:05AM AND I COULD KEEP GOING, BUT I WILL --
11:57:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CAN YOU STOP THERE, IF I MAY.
11:57:13AM GO BACK FOUR SLIDES ABOUT THE ATTENDANCE.
11:57:15AM RIGHT THERE.
11:57:17AM NO, ONE MORE, I THINK.
11:57:19AM I SAW THE NUMBER 200 -- 100 OR SOMETHING.
11:57:24AM >> ABOUT ATTENDANCE?
11:57:26AM LET ME SEE.
11:57:27AM FIRE MARSHAL.
11:57:31AM IS THAT THE ONE?
11:57:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
11:57:38AM >> AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME VERY MUCH TODAY.
11:57:45AM I WILL CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:57:46AM SORRY, I AM A LITTLE NERVOUS TODAY.
11:57:49AM IT IS PRETTY IMPORTANT FOR US.
11:57:51AM THANK YOU.
11:57:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:57:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO REASON TO BE NERVOUS.
11:57:56AM YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
11:57:57AM I KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE GET NERVOUS WHEN THEY COME UP TO US.
11:58:00AM BUT IT'S -- SO CAN YOU PLEASE GO BACK TO THE VERY FIRST
11:58:04AM PHOTO YOU SHOWED OF -- OF THE CROWD.
11:58:07AM WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?
11:58:22AM >> SO, THIS ACTUALLY WAS PRODUCED BY PIED PIPER, THE
11:58:29AM APPLICANT, SHOWING THE CROWD AT ONE OF THEIR NONCONCERT
11:58:33AM EVENTS THAT WE BELIEVE IS A CONCERT EVENT.
11:58:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THEN THE SENTENCE ABOVE IT.
11:58:39AM WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?
11:58:41AM >> I ADDED IT FROM THE CONCERT'S PAGE.
11:58:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:58:46AM THAT WORD "CONCERT" POKED OUT AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I
11:58:50AM KNEW WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
11:58:52AM THANK YOU.
11:58:52AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
11:58:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES TO
11:58:55AM PRESENT.
11:58:55AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:58:57AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
11:58:58AM BRIAN ROBERTS.
11:59:00AM AMERICANA DRIVE, FLORIDA.
11:59:03AM I OBJECT TO THE PETITIONER -- THE PETITIONER'S APPEAL TO
11:59:07AM DISMISS PART OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S ORDER AND
11:59:11AM PETITIONER ONLY KEEPING IN THE PORTIONS INDICATING THAT
11:59:13AM THESE EVENTS ARE NOT CONCERTS.
11:59:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID YOU OBJECT.
11:59:17AM >> I OBJECT TO THEM TAKING THAT -- TAKING THE LANGUAGE OUT
11:59:20AM AND KEEPING THE NONCONCERT.
11:59:22AM REMOVING THE NONCONCERT PORTION.
11:59:26AM RIGHT.
11:59:26AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO -- SO SOME OF THE TESTIMONY -- SO -- WE
11:59:33AM KIND OF GOT HERE THROUGH THE MAGISTRATE.
11:59:34AM AND SOME OF THE TESTIMONY THAT THE MAGISTRATE HEARD MAY HAVE
11:59:38AM NOT -- MAY HAVE LED HIM DOWN A PATH THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN
11:59:42AM 100% GOOD.
11:59:43AM SO I KIND OF WANTED TO -- SORRY?
11:59:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IT IS.
11:59:47AM >> SUPER.
11:59:48AM SO THE TESTIMONY GIVEN BY -- GIVEN IN THE PREVIOUS -- SO,
11:59:53AM WHAT I WAS SAYING BEFORE IS THE MAGISTRATE WAS KIND OF TOLD
11:59:56AM STORY.
11:59:57AM THE STORY KIND OF WENT LIKE THIS.
11:59:59AM ARE YOU HAVING CONCERTS?
12:00:05PM NO, NOT REALLY.
12:00:06PM STORY KIND OF WENT LIKE THIS.
12:00:08PM HOW DOES THAT CONCERT OCCUR?
12:00:10PM WHAT HAPPENS IS THE GUY DOING THE THING JUST PRESSES A
12:00:14PM BUTTON.
12:00:14PM SO THAT'S REALLY NOT -- SO WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT
12:00:18PM THESE AREN'T CONCERTS, IT'S BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THAT
12:00:21PM SAID, THE GUY IS JUST GOING OVER THERE AND PRESSING A
12:00:24PM BUTTON.
12:00:24PM IT'S NOT REALLY A SHOW.
12:00:25PM THAT'S WHY HE SAID THESE AREN'T CONCERTS.
12:00:28PM NOT A SHOW.
12:00:29PM BUT IT IS A SHOW.
12:00:30PM SO THIS IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT -- OR ONE OF THE
12:00:41PM PERFORMERS THAT COMES THERE.
12:00:43PM YOU CAN SEE BEHIND HIM THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
12:00:45PM YOU'RE NOT SHOWING UP AS AN ENTERTAINER AND MAKING 50 TO
12:00:50PM 150,000 DOLLARS TO ROLL OUT THERE AND PRESS A BUTTON.
12:00:55PM IF YOU WERE, I COULD PRESS THIS BUTTON HERE AND 100, TO 150
12:01:02PM GRAND.
12:01:02PM IT'S NOT REALISTIC.
12:01:04PM WHAT THEY ARE SAYING THIS IS NOT A CONCERT IS CRAZY.
12:01:06PM IF YOU TELL THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT EDM IS JUST SOMEBODY
12:01:10PM PRESSING A BUTTON THEY'LL LOOK AT YOU CRAZY BECAUSE TO THEM
12:01:14PM THAT IS A CONCERT.
12:01:16PM TIMES CHANGE.
12:01:17PM EDM PRESSING A BUTTON, THAT IS A CONCERT TO THE PEOPLE.
12:01:20PM THEY ARE PAYING GOOD MONEY TO GO TO THE CONCERTS.
12:01:24PM THEY ARE PAYING ENTERTAINERS GOOD MONEY TO PRESS A BUTTON.
12:01:27PM LET'S CALL IT WHAT IT IS.
12:01:28PM IT'S A CONCERT.
12:01:29PM THAT'S IT.
12:01:40PM SO THE OTHER THING THAT THEY SAID IS IT'S NOT A CONCERT
12:01:51PM BECAUSE THE PEOPLE CAN'T SEE THE PEOPLE PRESSING THE BUTTON.
12:01:56PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES YOU'VE SEEN ALREADY, YOU CAN SEE
12:01:59PM EVERYBODY OUT THERE THAT HAS PAID MONEY CAN SEE THE STAGE.
12:02:02PM SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THE PETITIONER SAID.
12:02:04PM HERE'S SOMEBODY PRESSING A BUTTON, DON'T KNOW WHICH BUTTON
12:02:09PM HE'S PRESSING BUT SOME SORT OF BUTTON HE'S PRESSING.
12:02:12PM MIND YOU, THIS IS ALL DURING SINCE THEY PUT THE STAGE UP IN
12:02:18PM 2021.
12:02:19PM THESE ARE ALL NON-CONCERTS THAT ARE HAPPENING THERE.
12:02:22PM ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX.
12:02:24PM THIS ONE IS NOT PRESSING A BUTTON, NOT ENTERTAINING PEOPLE.
12:02:27PM ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN THERE.
12:02:31PM ANOTHER ONE.
12:02:33PM YOU CAN SEE THE CROWD CAN CLEARLY SEE THE STAGE.
12:02:37PM THE PETITIONER SAID THEY COULDN'T SEE THE STAGE.
12:02:39PM AND HERE IS THE DEFINITION -- THAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT.
12:02:51PM WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS THEY ARE ACTUALLY -- THE DEEJAYS ARE
12:02:55PM ACTUALLY NOT PRESSING A BUTTON.
12:02:57PM THEY ARE WORKING THE STAGE.
12:02:58PM THEY ARE FIGURING OUT WHAT TO MIX.
12:03:00PM THEY ARE PLAYING THE NEXT TRACK.
12:03:02PM THEY ARE ENTERTAINING.
12:03:03PM THIS IS A CONCERT.
12:03:04PM LASTLY, LET ME SHOW YOU A VIDEO OF SOMEBODY PRESSING A
12:03:10PM BUTTON.
12:03:12PM IT WAS PROVIDED IN THE MATERIAL TO STAFF EARLY ON.
12:03:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS ISN'T --
12:03:45PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:03:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
12:03:52PM [MUSIC]
12:04:11PM >> YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE PEOPLE DANCING AS ENTERTAINERS.
12:04:16PM PEOPLE THAT CAME IN TO DANCE FOR THE BUTTON PRESSING ON THE
12:04:20PM STAGE.
12:04:24PM [MUSIC]
12:04:26PM BY TRADITIONAL DEFINITION OF CONCERT, IT'S A CONCERT.
12:04:32PM SO EVEN BY TRADITIONAL DEFINITION OF A CONCERT WITH DANCING,
12:04:37PM THEY ARE DANCING.
12:04:39PM LIKE I SAID, THE COUNCIL HERE IS VERY TALENTED AT MAKING
12:04:46PM RABBIT TRAILS.
12:04:48PM HEY, RABBIT TRAIL, LET'S GO LOOK AT WHAT THIS WORD MEANS.
12:04:51PM LET'S GO LOOK AT THIS.
12:04:53PM THE QUESTION IS SIMPLE.
12:04:55PM ARE WE ENTERTAINING?
12:04:58PM ARE WE HAVING A CONCERT?
12:05:00PM THE ANSWER IS YES.
12:05:01PM IT'S NOT THAT HARD OF A DECISION.
12:05:03PM THANK YOU.
12:05:03PM YOU KNOW WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO.
12:05:10PM ACCEPT WHAT PROVIDED.
12:05:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD AND HAND IT TO THE ATTORNEY.
12:05:19PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:05:21PM >> NO, THANK YOU.
12:05:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:05:22PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:05:29PM >> COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, I THINK WE STARTED A RELATIONSHIP TEN
12:05:32PM YEARS AGO WITH THE SAME GUY DOING THE SAME THING AT THE SAME
12:05:36PM PLACE, UNFORTUNATELY.
12:05:37PM I THINK YOU WERE HERE, TOO.
12:05:39PM THANK YOU, GUYS.
12:05:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING, SO WE HAVE A PD
12:05:47PM THAT HAS ENTITLEMENTS AND THOSE ENTITLEMENTS USE THE WORD
12:05:54PM "CONCERT."
12:05:54PM I THINK I NEED TO SEE THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE UNDEFINED
12:05:57PM WORDS, I THINK I NEED TO SEE THAT WEBSTER DEFINITION OF
12:06:01PM CONCERT AGAIN THAT I CAN ACTUALLY HOLD ON THE SCREEN LONG
12:06:04PM ENOUGH FOR ME TO ACTUALLY READ IT.
12:06:06PM BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS REALLY BOILS DOWN TO AS
12:06:09PM SIMPLE AS THAT.
12:06:10PM THE ENTIRE DEFINITION.
12:06:14PM NOT JUST THE PIECE MEAL THAT'S IN THAT.
12:06:17PM I WANT THE ENTIRE WEBSTER DEFINITION.
12:06:19PM >>ERIC COTTON: I DO NOT HAVE THAT.
12:06:21PM IT WAS NOT PART OF THE FORMAL DECISION.
12:06:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE GET THAT PLEASE?
12:06:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, LET'S NOT JUMP THE GUN.
12:06:32PM LET'S TALK IT THROUGH FOR THE RECORD.
12:06:34PM MR. COTTON, WHEN YOU REVIEWED DURING THE OPEN RECORD PERIOD,
12:06:41PM YOU PUT THIS IN THE OPEN RECORD.
12:06:43PM YOU PUT THIS IN YOUR DECISION LETTER, WHAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN.
12:06:47PM >>ERIC COTTON: CORRECT.
12:06:48PM THE LANGUAGE IN THE LETTER ITSELF.
12:06:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU ZOOM OUT SO WE CAN SEE IT A LITTLE
12:06:53PM BETTER?
12:07:04PM >>ERIC COTTON: THE DEFINITION ITSELF CAME FROM --
12:07:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, I'LL DEFER TO THE
12:07:12PM ATTORNEYS TO TELL ME WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT IT SEEMS
12:07:15PM TO ME, SAY WE HAVE A PD WITH ENTITLEMENTS THAT SPECIFICALLY
12:07:19PM CALLS OUT CONCERTS AND WE HAVE LANGUAGE THAT TALKS ABOUT
12:07:26PM UNDEFINED WORDS REFERRING BACK TO THE WEBSTER DICTIONARY.
12:07:30PM ME, FOR MY DECISION, IT BOILS DOWN TO WHAT IS WEBSTER'S
12:07:36PM 9th COLLEGIATE DICTIONARY?
12:07:37PM HOW DOES IT DEFINE CONCERT?
12:07:40PM I THINK THAT IS THE JEST OF THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION.
12:07:44PM THAT'S ONLY PIECES OF IT.
12:07:46PM THAT'S ONLY EXCERPTS.
12:07:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW IS THE WORD CONCERT USED?
12:07:50PM ARE WE IN CONCERT TOGETHER?
12:07:52PM ARE WE IN AGREEMENT?
12:07:54PM THIS IS THE CORRECT DEFINITION.
12:07:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION IS YOU CANNOT REWEIGH A
12:08:01PM FINDING OF FACT.
12:08:02PM IS THE FINDING OF FACT, MS. PETTIS-MACKLE, THAT PARTICULAR
12:08:07PM FINDING OF FACT OF THE DEFINITION OF CONCERT CITED IN --
12:08:14PM >> IF YOU GO TO PAGE 4 OF 5 OF THE RECOMMENDED ORDER, HE
12:08:17PM DISCUSSES THE VERY ISSUE THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
12:08:21PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN HAVE BROUGHT UP AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE.
12:08:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S RIGHT HERE.
12:08:28PM >> AGAIN, I REMIND THE COUNCIL THAT THE FINDING OF FACT BY
12:08:32PM THE HEARING OFFICER IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN CHANGE.
12:08:34PM HE LISTENED TO EVERYTHING THAT WAS HEARD.
12:08:37PM THE ROBERTS WERE THERE.
12:08:38PM EVERYTHING THAT THEY PRESENTED TO YOU, THEY PRESENTED TO
12:08:41PM HIM.
12:08:41PM HE CONSIDERED ALL OF THAT AND HE MADE THIS SPECIFIC FINDING
12:08:45PM OF FACT.
12:08:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE FINDING OF FACT SAYS ALTHOUGH NOT
12:08:49PM CONCERTS.
12:08:50PM >> CORRECT.
12:08:51PM WHAT HE SAID WAS, IT STARTS -- THERE ARE TWO PARAGRAPHS.
12:08:55PM THIS IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF THE
12:08:57PM TERM CONCERT AND PERFORMANCES WHICH INVOLVE A PRESENTATION
12:09:00PM OF MUSIC BY THE ARTIST THUS, BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED
12:09:03PM ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU HEARD TODAY AND MORE, THE PLAYING
12:09:07PM OF MUSIC BY A DEEJAY DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A CONCERT UNDER THE
12:09:10PM CODE.
12:09:10PM AS SUCH THE MUSIC ACTIVITY WITH OR WITHOUT A DEEJAY WOULD
12:09:14PM NOT CONSTITUTE A TICKETED CONCERT UNDER THE CODE.
12:09:16PM THAT'S WHAT -- HE LISTENED TO ERIC.
12:09:19PM HE LISTENED TO ME AND HE LISTENED TO THE ROBERTS AND CAME TO
12:09:22PM THAT FINDING.
12:09:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT BASED ON FINDING
12:09:25PM OF FACT, THE PD HAS A LAND ENTITLEMENT THAT SAYS -- WHAT
12:09:30PM TALKS ABOUT JUST SPECIAL EVENTS AND CONCERTS.
12:09:33PM SO THE MAGISTRATE, AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THE MAGISTRATE'S
12:09:37PM FINDING OF FACT THAT THIS IS NOT A CONCERT?
12:09:40PM >> CORRECT.
12:09:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
12:09:43PM AGAIN, BESIDES MY PERSONAL OPINION ABOUT ALL THIS, I JUST
12:09:51PM WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE ONE THING I'VE BEEN TOLD TIME AND
12:09:54PM TIME AGAIN AS A PERSON ON CITY COUNCIL ABOUT LAND USE AND
12:10:00PM ENTITLEMENTS AND LEAVING THE CITY VULNERABLE IF WE TRY TO
12:10:04PM TAKE AWAY RIGHTS IN OUR DECISIONS LIKE THIS.
12:10:09PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEARLY TALKING ABOUT THE SAME
12:10:11PM ISSUES.
12:10:11PM THANK YOU.
12:10:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY
12:10:17PM COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
12:10:18PM I'M REFERRING TO 21 -- 27-61 J-1.
12:10:27PM J-1-C-3, THE FINAL ORDER.
12:10:36PM AND IT WOULD BE ON I GUESS PAGE 5 OF 6 IS WHAT IT SAYS HERE
12:10:40PM IN THE SUPPLEMENT.
12:10:40PM COUNCIL MAY, AS MS. PETTIS-MACKLE STATED, CITY COUNCIL MAY
12:10:45PM ADOPT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER AS THE FINAL ORDER OR MAY REJECT
12:10:49PM OR MODIFY THE RECOMMENDED ORDER AS PROVIDED HEREIN.
12:10:52PM CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT REJECT OR MODIFY ANY FINDINGS OF FACT
12:10:58PM REACHED BY THE HEARING OFFICER.
12:11:01PM IF CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT A FINDING OF FACT IS NOT
12:11:04PM BASED ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE
12:11:06PM RECORD OR THAT A FINDING OF FACT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE
12:11:11PM ESSENTIAL REQUIREMENTS OF LAW, CITY COUNCIL MAY REMAND THE
12:11:14PM MATTER BACK TO THE HEARING OFFICER BUT ONLY IF IT DETERMINES
12:11:18PM THAT ADDITIONAL FACT-FINDINGS -- FACT-FINDING IS REQUIRED.
12:11:22PM AGAIN, IF CITY COUNCIL REJECTS OR MODIFIES A CONCLUSION OF
12:11:26PM LAW, IT MUST STATE WITH PARTICULARITY IN THE FINAL ORDER THE
12:11:32PM REASONS AND MUST MAKE A FINDING THAT ITS SUBSTITUTION OF A
12:11:35PM CONCLUSION OF LAW IS, HAS OR MORE REASONABLE THAN THAT WHICH
12:11:39PM WAS REJECTED OR MODIFIED.
12:11:41PM AND IT GOES ON TO SAY WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DIRECT STAFF TO
12:11:45PM PREPARE THE REVISED ORDER.
12:11:47PM BUT THAT IS YOUR CRITERIA UNDER WHICH YOU MUST MAKE YOUR
12:11:50PM DECISION.
12:11:51PM IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR ANYBODY ELSE
12:11:54PM PARTICIPATING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THEM BEFORE YOU GO
12:11:57PM INTO DISCUSSION.
12:12:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CONCLUSION OF SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
12:12:04PM AS A STATEMENT OF FACT, HIS CONCLUSION SAYS THEY ARE NOT
12:12:07PM CONCERTS, AND THEN WE HAVE A PD THAT ADDRESSES THAT.
12:12:11PM SO IT'S ALMOST CONTRADICTORY IN HIS CONCLUSION BECAUSE IF HE
12:12:16PM CONCLUDES THAT THEY ARE NOT CONCERTS BUT IT GOES ON TO SAY
12:12:20PM WHICH MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF SPECIAL EVENT.
12:12:23PM IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE GOT CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS IN THE SAME
12:12:27PM CONCLUSION BY THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
12:12:29PM IS ANYBODY ELSE SEEING THE SAME THING I'M SEEING?
12:12:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD SAY THAT THE BASIS FOR THE ORAL
12:12:38PM ARGUMENT AS MR. PORTER HAD STATED WAS AN AMBIGUITY.
12:12:44PM AND THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO YOU FIND IS NECESSARY TO
12:12:47PM ADDRESS THAT?
12:12:48PM IS IT A REMAND OR IS IT SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU CAN CITE TO
12:12:52PM WITHIN THE RECOMMENDED ORDER?
12:12:54PM OR THE CODE, FRANKLY, IF THAT'S APPLYING THE CODE.
12:12:59PM IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH APPLICATION OF THE
12:13:05PM LAW.
12:13:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND COUNCIL MEMBER
12:13:09PM MIRANDA.
12:13:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:13:10PM MR. COTTON OR MS. PETTIS-MACKLE, IF EITHER OF YOU HAVE THE
12:13:15PM PICTURE OF THE PD AGAIN WITH THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE ON IT SO I
12:13:19PM CAN LOOK AT IT SUPER FAST, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
12:13:22PM I'M SORRY, THE PETITIONER HAD THAT.
12:13:25PM I APOLOGIZE.
12:13:31PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
12:13:33PM THIS IS THE OVERALL PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
12:13:34PM THIS IS THE OVERALL PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
12:13:38PM THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION TODAY --
12:13:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU COULD ZOOM ANY MORE, GREATLY
12:13:46PM APPRECIATE -- THAT'S A LITTLE TOO MUCH.
12:13:48PM THAT WORKS.
12:13:49PM THANK YOU.
12:13:49PM WE CAN SEE.
12:13:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:14:12PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:14:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
12:14:27PM THIS IS GOING TO END UP SOONER OR LATER, I GUESS, IN THE
12:14:27PM COURTS, WHY DON'T WE DO IT NOW INSTEAD OF WAITING.
12:14:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN THIS CASE WE ARE THE COURT.
12:14:40PM WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THIS.
12:14:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:14:46PM ANYTHING ELSE.
12:14:47PM IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, I BELIEVE MR. PORTER HAS
12:14:50PM REBUTTAL OF FOUR MINUTES.
12:14:53PM >> I'LL BE VERY BRIEF.
12:14:53PM I WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT THAT I'VE MADE THAT THE
12:14:56PM DEFINITION OF CONCERT WAS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED BY THE
12:14:59PM HEARING OFFICER IN THE FINDING OF FACT.
12:15:01PM I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT A LOT OF THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS SHOWN
12:15:04PM TODAY WERE EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2013, 2014, WAY BEFORE
12:15:09PM THE GODFREY HOTEL WAS MANAGING THE PROPERTY AND NOT REALLY
12:15:13PM RELEVANT.
12:15:13PM HEARING OFFICER HEARD EVERY SINGLE THING PRESENTED TO YOU
12:15:16PM TODAY AND STILL CAME UP WITH THIS RECOMMENDATION.
12:15:18PM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU TO ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATION TO
12:15:21PM ORDER WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT I REQUEST TO BE STRUCK -- BE
12:15:25PM STRICKEN.
12:15:26PM I MESSED THAT UP.
12:15:26PM THE LANGUAGE THAT DOESN'T -- BEYOND THE WORD CONCERT BE
12:15:32PM STRICKEN FROM THE ORDER.
12:15:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:15:37PM THAT CONCLUDES YOUR REBUTTAL.
12:15:38PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:15:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
12:15:48PM GOING TO MR. SHELBY, WHEN LOOKING AT THIS, WHERE IT SAYS, WE
12:15:54PM MAY NOT REJECT OR MODIFY ANY FINDINGS OF FACT.
12:15:57PM IF WE DETERMINE THAT A FINDING OF FACT IS NOT BASED ON
12:16:00PM COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, WE CAN REMAND, OR IF WE
12:16:05PM REJECT OR MODIFY CONCLUSION IT MUST STATE WITH PARTICULARITY
12:16:11PM IN THE FINAL ORDER ITS REASONS -- I'M SORRY.
12:16:14PM WHOEVER HAS THAT BEEPING, IF YOU COULD MAKE THAT MUTED, I
12:16:17PM WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
12:16:18PM THANK YOU.
12:16:18PM IF CITY COUNCIL -- IT MUST STATE WITH PARTICULARITY IN THE
12:16:26PM FINAL ORDER ITS REASONS AND MAKE FINDING THAT SUBSTITUTION
12:16:28PM OF CONCLUSION OF LAW IS, AS, OR MORE REASONABLE THAT THAT
12:16:33PM WHICH WAS REJECTED OR MODIFIED.
12:16:35PM IT SAYS VERY CLEARLY IN OUR DEFINITIONS WORDS NOT DEFINED
12:16:46PM THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE THE MEANING STATED IN THE WEBSTER'S
12:16:49PM 9th NEW COLLEGIATE DICTIONARY AS REVISED.
12:16:53PM ACCORDING TO WHAT MR. COTTON SHOWED, WE HAVE THAT DEFINITION
12:16:59PM AS PUBLIC PERFORMANCE.
12:17:02PM AS MUSIC OR DANCING.
12:17:03PM SO IF WE WERE TO REJECT THE CONCLUSION OF LAW AND SAY THAT
12:17:13PM IS WHY, IS THAT LEGAL?
12:17:15PM IS THAT OUR BASIS -- NOT LEGAL, BUT IS THAT -- I MEAN,
12:17:22PM THAT'S ONE OF THE THREE OPTIONS WE HAVE.
12:17:24PM MODIFY THE RECOMMENDATION.
12:17:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THAT IS AN OPTION, TO MODIFY THE
12:17:29PM RECOMMENDATION.
12:17:29PM I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE BOARD OR PUT WORDS IN ITS
12:17:36PM MOUTH, BUT ARE YOU SAYING THE ISSUE HERE THEN IN EFFECT
12:17:39PM COMES DOWN TO THE DEFINITION AS DEFINED BY WEBSTER ON PAGE 4
12:17:47PM OF 5 IN THE RECOMMENDED ORDER?
12:17:50PM VERSUS OR AS OPPOSED TO WHAT MR. COTTON'S WAS IN THE FORMAL
12:17:55PM DECISION LETTER?
12:17:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WAS THE SAME AS WHAT MR. COTTON'S WAS IN
12:17:59PM THE FORMAL DECISION.
12:18:00PM VERY TOP, WEBSTER FURTHER DEFINES CONCERT AS PUBLIC
12:18:03PM PERFORMANCE AS OF MUSIC OR DANCING.
12:18:05PM THAT'S WHAT HE PUT UP THAT WAS IN HIS FORMAL DECISION
12:18:11PM LETTER.
12:18:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY QUESTION, COUNCIL -- WELL, MY
12:18:16PM SUGGESTION, COUNCIL, IS TO SCRUTINIZE WHAT THE HEARING
12:18:21PM OFFICER HAS USED AS THE BASIS FOR THE DEFINITION IN COMING
12:18:25PM TO ITS CONCLUSION.
12:18:27PM DID IT COMPLY WITH THE CODE?
12:18:30PM AND THE CODE SPECIFICALLY AS PRESENTED BY MS. PETTIS-MACKLE
12:18:35PM STATES THAT THE PROCESS FOR DETERMINING WHAT THE DEFINITION
12:18:39PM IS, IS A PIECE OF PAPER THAT I'M HAVING TROUBLE LOCATING.
12:18:45PM YOU COULD ASK MS. PETTIS-MACKLE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PLEASE
12:18:52PM SHOW THEM, DESCRIBE THAT DEFINITION AGAIN WITHIN THE CODE,
12:18:55PM THE BASIS OF THE WORDS NOT DEFINED.
12:19:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECTION 1-3, WORDS NOT DEFINED.
12:19:06PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY
12:19:12PM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
12:19:13PM CODE SECTION 1-3 DEFINITIONS, WORDS NOT DEFINED, SUBSECTION
12:19:16PM A STATES, WORDS NOT DEFINED IN THIS CODE SHALL HAVE THE
12:19:19PM MEANING STATED IN THE DOCUMENTS, STANDARDS AND/OR MANUALS
12:19:24PM ADOPTED ELSEWHERE IN THIS CODE.
12:19:26PM WORDS NOT SO DEFINED SHALL HAVE THE MEANING STATED IN THE
12:19:29PM WEBSTER'S NINE NEW COLLEGIATE DICTIONARY AS REVISED.
12:19:34PM THAT IS THE PROVISION IN WHICH MR. COTTON BASED HIS DECISION
12:19:38PM ON.
12:19:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD ASK YOU, COUNCIL, TO USE THAT
12:19:41PM DEFINITION AS APPLIED BY THE CODE AND APPLY IT TO THE FIRST
12:19:45PM TWO PARAGRAPHS IN 4 AND 5, BOTH PARAGRAPHS, AND SEE IF IT
12:19:51PM STRICTLY FOLLOWS THE REQUIREMENTS OF YOUR CODE, OF THE CITY
12:19:57PM CODE.
12:20:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MEAN, THE BEGINNING OF THE SECOND PARAGRAPH
12:20:04PM SAYS WEBSTER'S PROVIDES A KID'S DEFINITION TO BE A MUSICAL
12:20:08PM PERFORMANCE OF SEVERAL VOICES OR INSTRUMENTS OR BY BOTH.
12:20:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT DOES IT SAY AFTER THAT?
12:20:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: VOCABULARY.COM.
12:20:15PM WE CAN'T USE VOCABULARY.COM BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ALLOWED.
12:20:18PM WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO USE WEBSTER NINTH NEW COLLEGIATE
12:20:22PM DICTIONARY.
12:20:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS VOCABULARY.COM USED BY THE MAGISTRATE AS
12:20:26PM PROVIDING A DEFINITION THAT ALLOWS HIM TO REACH HIS
12:20:29PM CONCLUSION OF LAW?
12:20:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:20:31PM AND THAT'S NOT ALLOWED BY OUR CITY CODE.
12:20:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE] THE QUESTION IS IF THAT IS A
12:20:53PM FINDING OF CITY COUNCIL, HAVE TO LOOK TO THE CODE HOW A
12:20:56PM FINDING LIKE THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED.
12:20:58PM WHAT YOUR OPTIONS ARE.
12:20:59PM BASICALLY THE QUESTION IS, DOES THE CONCLUSION OF LAW OR THE
12:21:14PM FINDING OF FACT BASED -- FIND THAT SECTION OF THIS CODE,
12:21:18PM PLEASE.
12:21:18PM GIVE ME A MINUTE, PLEASE.
12:21:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I INTERRUPT TO MAKE A STATEMENT?
12:21:24PM HERE'S MY CONCERN.
12:21:30PM SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMPLIFIED, RECORDED MUSIC.
12:21:36PM IF WHERE I THINK YOU'RE HEADING OR WHERE THAT PART OF THAT
12:21:40PM CONVERSATION IS GOING, THAT WOULD CONSTITUTE -- ANYTIME
12:21:46PM SOMEBODY WANTS TO PLAY MUSIC OUTSIDE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA --
12:21:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
12:21:51PM THAT'S SOLELY FOR THEIR PD.
12:21:52PM THAT'S ON THEIR PD.
12:21:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE'RE GOING TO DEFINE BY CODE, WHAT IS
12:21:58PM AMPLIFIED RECORDED MUSIC IF WE'RE GOING TO -- WHAT IS THAT?
12:22:01PM IS THAT A CONCERT?
12:22:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I COULD ASK MR. COTTON, PLEASE.
12:22:08PM MR. COTTON, DOES THE -- IS THE DEFINITION OF CONCERT
12:22:14PM AMPLIFIED RECORDED SOUND ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU SAW IN YOUR
12:22:17PM RESEARCH FOR THE OPEN RECORD PERIOD?
12:22:19PM >>ERIC COTTON: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION, NO, SIR.
12:22:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WOULD YOU SHOW WHAT YOU FOUND IN YOUR FINAL
12:22:23PM DECISION?
12:22:23PM WHAT CONSTITUTES WHAT YOU FOUND TO BE THE CASE AS THE
12:22:28PM DEFINITION.
12:22:35PM >>ERIC COTTON: AGAIN, THIS IS THE DEFINITION THAT WAS
12:22:37PM UTILIZED IN THE FORMAL DECISION.
12:22:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE READ IT FOR THE RECORD.
12:22:41PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
12:22:42PM SAYS WEBSTER DEFINES A CONCERT AS A, QUOTE, PUBLIC
12:22:45PM PERFORMANCE OF MUSIC OR DANCING, END QUOTE.
12:22:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU MAKE A DETERMINATION AFTERWARDS
12:22:51PM THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE QUOTE?
12:22:52PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
12:22:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN YOUR EVALUATION.
12:22:54PM >>ERIC COTTON: YES, SIR.
12:22:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS THAT EVALUATION?
12:22:57PM >>ERIC COTTON: TO CONTINUE ON IT SAYS THE DEFINITION DOES
12:23:00PM NOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN LIVE MUSIC SUCH AS AN ORCHESTRA OR
12:23:03PM A BAND AND THE PRESENTATION OF PRERECORDED MUSIC BY A
12:23:05PM DEEJAY.
12:23:06PM THIS DEFINITION WOULD MEAN A DEEJAYED EVENT, WHICH IS A
12:23:08PM PUBLIC PERFORMANCE OF MUSIC, IS A CONCERT, AND THEREFORE THE
12:23:11PM TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENT IS REQUIRED TO BE APPLIED FOR AND
12:23:14PM RECEIVED PRIOR TO A DEEJAY PERFORMANCE.
12:23:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE WERE TO ACCEPT THAT AS YOU JUST
12:23:19PM STATED, WOULDN'T THAT BE APPLICABLE TO ALL PRERECORDED MUSIC
12:23:24PM ANYWHERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA?
12:23:25PM NOW WE'RE DEFINING THAT AS A CONCERT?
12:23:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY.
12:23:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELL, YEAH.
12:23:36PM OKAY, SO, I MEAN, IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA, ANY POOL PARTY,
12:23:44PM SOMEBODY WHO CHARGES A COVER OR ANY OF OUR BARS THAT HAVE
12:23:49PM PRERECORDED MUSIC.
12:23:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M GOING TO ASK AND MAYBE
12:23:52PM MS. PETTIS-MACKLE COULD ADDRESS THIS, TOO.
12:23:56PM I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THAT QUESTION IS NOT APPLICABLE
12:24:01PM BECAUSE I BELIEVE, MR. COTTON, IF YOU WOULD TESTIFY AS TO
12:24:04PM WHY IT IS APPLICABLE TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
12:24:05PM >>ERIC COTTON: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
12:24:08PM THIS REQUEST AND THE DEFINITION OF CONCERT WAS SPECIFIC TO
12:24:12PM THAT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2017 WITH A
12:24:16PM DEFINITION OF WHERE THE TERM CONCERT WAS USED.
12:24:19PM I DID NOT LOOK AT ANY OTHER --
12:24:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M SAYING IF WE ACCEPTED THAT DEFINITION
12:24:24PM OF CONCERT, WOULDN'T WE END UP ACCEPTING ACROSS THE CITY.
12:24:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD CALL FOR SPECULATION
12:24:35PM OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING NOW.
12:24:37PM THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT OR WHAT ROLE WITH THOSE OTHER
12:24:43PM APPLICATIONS, WHATEVER SITE PLANS EXIST, WHERE CONCERT IS
12:24:49PM RELEVANT TO THAT SPECIFICALLY AS A CONDITION ON THE SITE
12:24:52PM PLAN, AM I STATING THAT CORRECTLY, MR. COTTON?
12:24:55PM >>ERIC COTTON: THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ON THE SITE PLAN DEALT
12:24:57PM WITH CONCERT -- TICKETED EVENTS AND CONCERTS AND SUCH AS
12:25:02PM PREVIOUSLY SHOWN.
12:25:03PM I CAN PUT THAT SITE PLAN BACK UP IF YOU'D LIKE WITH THOSE
12:25:06PM SPECIFIC CONDITIONS.
12:25:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STILL GO BACK TO CONCLUSION OF FACT THAT
12:25:11PM THE MAGISTRATE DETERMINED THAT THIS WAS NOT A CONCERT.
12:25:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS A CONCLUSION OF LAW.
12:25:17PM CONCLUSION OF LAW BASED ON HIS EVALUATION OF HIS FINDINGS OF
12:25:22PM FACT.
12:25:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT THIS WAS NOT A CONCERT.
12:25:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S CORRECT.
12:25:26PM YOU HAVE IN HIS RECOMMENDED ORDER HIS BASIS FOR THE FINDINGS
12:25:30PM OF FACT THAT FORM THE BASIS FOR HIS CONCLUSION.
12:25:32PM THE QUESTION IS THEN, DOES THAT COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS
12:25:38PM OF THE CITY CODE AND THE PD.
12:25:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
12:25:43PM I'LL GIVE THIS A WHIRL.
12:25:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE WE DONE WITH QUESTIONS OR ARE WE GOING
12:25:48PM TO CLOSE THE RECORD -- CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING?
12:25:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
12:25:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
12:25:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC
12:25:56PM HEARING?
12:25:56PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:26:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE MERE PLAYING OF MUSIC DOES NOT
12:26:04PM CONSTITUTE A PERFORMANCE.
12:26:05PM WHAT IS A PERFORMANCE?
12:26:06PM NUMBER ONE.
12:26:10PM NUMBER TWO, IF YOU HAVE A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, NOTHING IS
12:26:14PM ADVERTISED AND NO ONE THERE, AND YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT, YOU
12:26:18PM HAVE MUSIC AND A BAND, IS THAT A CONCERT OR NOT?
12:26:23PM NO ONE THERE.
12:26:24PM NO ONE GOT INVITED.
12:26:25PM NO ONE PAID ANYTHING.
12:26:26PM NO ONE SAW ANYTHING, IS THAT A CONCERT?
12:26:28PM WHAT HAPPENS IN OTHER CASES WHERE IT'S ADVERTISED, WHETHER
12:26:34PM ONE INDIVIDUAL OR TEN DECISIONS OR YOU'RE AT THE STRAZ OR
12:26:41PM RUTH ECKERD, THAT'S A CONCERT.
12:26:44PM IF YOU GO TO THE STADIUM, FULL WITH 60,000 PEOPLE TO LISTEN
12:26:49PM TO YOUNG LADY NAMED SWIFT, IS THAT A CONCERT?
12:26:52PM OR NOT?
12:26:54PM DID THEY HAVE TO GET A PERMIT OR NOT?
12:26:59PM I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GENTLEMAN WAS TRYING TO DO WHO RULED
12:27:10PM ON THIS, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT GO INTO
12:27:12PM THIS THING.
12:27:13PM LET'S BE REALISTIC.
12:27:16PM IF YOU ADVERTISE, IF YOU CHARGE MONEY AND ADVERTISING NOT TO
12:27:20PM HAVE A CONCERT?
12:27:21PM WANT PEOPLE TO STAY OUTSIDE AND NOT COME INSIDE?
12:27:24PM THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT THE WORD CONCERT AND PERFORMANCE,
12:27:29PM THEY HAVE A CONFLICT.
12:27:32PM WE'RE HAVING A CONCERT RIGHT NOW BY A DEBATE THAT PEOPLE ARE
12:27:36PM LISTENING TO.
12:27:38PM IF THERE WAS A FOOTBALL GAME PLAYED, IT WAS NEVER
12:27:42PM ADVERTISED, NEVER SAW ON TV IS THAT A FOOTBALL GAME?
12:27:45PM YES, BUT NO ONE KNEW IT HAPPENED.
12:27:49PM BECAUSE THERE'S NO RECORD OF IT.
12:27:53PM SO I MAY BE WAY OFF LINE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE I AM.
12:27:59PM IF SOMETHING IS ADVERTISED AND YOU COLLECT MONEY FOR IT, NO
12:28:03PM MATTER WHERE IT'S AT AND YOU HAVE TO GET PERMISSION, PERMIT
12:28:08PM TO GET IT, IS THAT A CONCERT OR NOT?
12:28:11PM THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
12:28:12PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:28:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE WE MAKE ANY MOTIONS, LET THE
12:28:16PM RECORD REFLECT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA IS NOT HERE AND HE
12:28:18PM WON'T BE HERE FOR THIS VOTE.
12:28:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE SEND THIS BACK TO THE MAGISTRATE
12:28:23PM FOR MORE CLARIFICATION ON HIS DETERMINATION OF WHETHER IT IS
12:28:26PM A CONCERT?
12:28:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS AN OPTION.
12:28:29PM MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF YOU DO SO, YOU DO IT WITH
12:28:33PM SPECIFIC BASIS FOR YOUR REMAND.
12:28:36PM LET ME GO BACK TO THAT AGAIN.
12:28:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T FEEL THAT WE CAN FULLY VET THAT
12:28:41PM OUT TODAY AT THE DAIS.
12:28:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT TO RAISE THE ISSUES THAT CAME
12:28:45PM UP FOR YOU THAT YOU WISH HIM TO MAKE FINDINGS OF FACT WITH
12:28:50PM REGARD AND THEN IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH REGARD TO THE
12:28:56PM DEFINITIONS OR THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW THAT YOU WISH TO
12:29:00PM TAKE A LOOK AT, IF THAT'S RELEVANT, THEN YOU COULD ALSO PUT
12:29:03PM THAT IN YOUR DIRECTION FOR REMAND.
12:29:06PM AGAIN, IT SAYS JUST FOR PURPOSES OF WHAT THE RULES OF THE
12:29:12PM GAME ARE, BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL MAY NOT REJECT OR MODIFY
12:29:15PM ANY FINDINGS OF FACT BY THE HEARING OFFICER.
12:29:17PM IF COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT A FINDING OF FACT IS NOT BASED ON
12:29:21PM COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE RECORD, IF
12:29:24PM THERE ARE THINGS MISSING THAT YOU FEEL UNNECESSARY OR THAT A
12:29:27PM FINDING OF FACT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE ESSENTIAL
12:29:31PM REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW, CITY COUNCIL MAY REMAND THE MATTER
12:29:35PM BACK TO THE HEARING OFFICER BUT ONLY IF IT DETERMINES THAT
12:29:38PM ADDITIONAL FACT FINDING IS REQUIRED.
12:29:40PM THAT WOULD BE A FINDING YOU MAKE.
12:29:42PM CITY COUNCIL REJECTS OR MODIFIES A CONCLUSION OF LAW AND
12:29:45PM THAT IS A SUBJECT AGAIN.
12:29:46PM THAT IS THE BASIS FOR A REMAND.
12:29:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
12:29:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE COULD REMAND, BUT THE ISSUE IS, HE USED
12:29:58PM THE DEFINITION THAT WE UNDER OUR CODE DON'T USE.
12:30:02PM REMANDING IT BACK, WE CAN SIMPLY SOLVE THAT HERE.
12:30:06PM AND WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND IT BACK TO HIM.
12:30:08PM WE CAN SIMPLY SAY, WHICH I PLAN --
12:30:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHAT HE
12:30:16PM USED WOULD BE HIS FINDING OF FACTS, SO WE CAN'T OVERRIDE
12:30:20PM THAT DETERMINATION.
12:30:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, BUT WE CAN MODIFY THE CONCLUSION OF LAW.
12:30:26PM YES, AND HIS FINDING OF FACT IS HIS FINDING OF FACT BUT OUR
12:30:32PM CITY CODE DOES NOT ALLOW US TO USE THAT DEFINITION.
12:30:36PM HE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT, DIDN'T RESEARCH IT, BUT HE
12:30:42PM DIDN'T USE OUR DEFINITION.
12:30:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHY SENDING IT BACK TO CLARIFY IT.
12:30:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING WE CAN CLARIFY THAT.
12:30:51PM I FEEL CONFIDENT.
12:30:54PM MOTION TO CLOSE.
12:30:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN HURTAK.
12:30:57PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:30:58PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:30:59PM THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
12:31:00PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:31:01PM YES, MA'AM.
12:31:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU WANT ME TO TRY?
12:31:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON.
12:31:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M JUST ASKING FOR HELP IF YOU ALL HAVE MORE
12:31:11PM THINGS.
12:31:12PM I'M GOING TO GIVE THIS A TRY.
12:31:14PM I'M GOING TO -- CAN'T DECIDE IF I WANT TO -- I THINK I'M
12:31:26PM GOING TO REJECT THE RECOMMENDED ORDER BECAUSE A FINDING OF
12:31:37PM FACT IS NOT BASED ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT WE,
12:31:41PM THE CITY USED SPECIFICALLY ORDINANCE 89-221, SUBSECTION 2, 1
12:31:51PM THROUGH 3, WHICH ARE DEFINITIONS WORD NOT DEFINED,
12:31:54PM SUBSECTION A, WORDS NOT DEFINED IN THIS CODE SHALL HAVE THE
12:31:58PM MEANING STATED IN THE DOCUMENTS, STANDARDS, AND/OR MANUALS
12:32:02PM ADOPTED ELSEWHERE IN THIS CODE.
12:32:04PM WORDS NOT SO DEFINED SHALL HAVE THE MEANING STATED IN THE
12:32:07PM WEBSTER'S NINTH NEW COLLEGIATE DICTIONARY AS REVISED.
12:32:12PM AND IN THE FINDING OF FACT, THE MAGISTRATE USED
12:32:16PM VOCABULARY.COM DEFINING A CONCERT AS A PERFORMANCE BY
12:32:19PM MUSICIANS OR SINGERS FOR AN AUDIENCE, THE MERE PLAYING OF
12:32:23PM MUSIC DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A PERFORMANCE.
12:32:28PM THIS IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMON UNDERSTANDING OF THE
12:32:30PM TERM CONCERT AND PERFORMANCE WHICH INVOLVES THE PRESENTATION
12:32:33PM OF MUSIC BY THE ARTIST.
12:32:35PM THERE'S NO CLOSE QUOTE HERE.
12:32:37PM I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT STOPS, THE VOCABULARY.COM
12:32:41PM DEFINITION.
12:32:42PM BUT VOCABULARY.COM, IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THE WEBSTER'S
12:32:47PM DEFINITION.
12:32:48PM PAGE 4 OF 5 OF THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE DOCUMENT, BY THE WAY,
12:32:56PM FORMAL DECISION.
12:32:57PM AT THE VERY TOP IT SAYS WEBSTER FURTHER DEFINES CONCERT AS
12:33:01PM PUBLIC PERFORMANCE OF MUSIC OR DANCING.
12:33:05PM WEBSTER'S DEFINES PERFORMANCE -- AND THEN TALKS ABOUT
12:33:09PM SOMETHING ELSE, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
12:33:11PM WE'RE LOOKING AT DEFINITION OF CONCERT.
12:33:13PM I REJECT THIS BASED ON THE FINDING OF FACT THAT WAS USED
12:33:25PM DOES NOT FOLLOW OUR CITY CODE AND THEREFORE IT IS A CONCERT.
12:33:34PM MR. SHELBY.
12:33:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M LOOKING TO SEE --
12:33:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I STATED WITH PARTICULARITY IN THE FINAL
12:33:50PM ORDER MY REASONS.
12:33:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS THE FINDING?
12:33:52PM THE SUBSTITUTION OF THE CONCLUSION OF LAW THAT WHEN YOU
12:33:55PM APPLY THE SECTION OF THE CODE THAT YOU CITED THAT IT'S MORE
12:34:01PM REASONABLE -- WHAT WAS REJECTED?
12:34:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR ME, THE REJECTION IS THE VOCABULARY.COM
12:34:11PM DEFINITION, WHICH IS WHAT HE USES.
12:34:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT'S THE CASE, LET ME STOP YOU THERE.
12:34:18PM WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS REJECTING A FINDING OF FACT.
12:34:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M NOT REJECTING A FINDING.
12:34:23PM IT SAYS HERE THAT I'M REJECTING -- WHAT I'M REJECTING IS NOT
12:34:28PM HIS FINDING OF FACT.
12:34:30PM IT'S THAT HE'S USING INAPPROPRIATE -- WELL, I GUESS THAT IS.
12:34:36PM I'M SUBSTITUTING THEN THE WEBSTER'S DEFINITION SHOULD BE THE
12:34:44PM ONLY DEFINITION CONSIDERED OR THAT COUNCIL BELIEVES SHOULD
12:34:47PM BE CONSIDERED BECAUSE THAT UNDER OUR CODE IS ALL THAT'S
12:34:50PM ALLOWED.
12:34:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS YOUR FINDING THEN WITH REGARD TO
12:34:54PM APPLYING THE WEBSTER DEFINITION IN TERMS OF MAKING YOUR --
12:34:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT CLEARLY SAYS A PUBLIC PERFORMANCE OF MUSIC
12:35:01PM OR DANCING.
12:35:01PM THAT'S ITS ONLY DEFINITION.
12:35:06PM WHICH CLEARLY -- WELL, THAT IS HIS FINDING OF FACT.
12:35:14PM I'M USING --
12:35:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU'RE DOING, I THINK
12:35:18PM YOU HAVE TO SEND IT BACK TO THE MAGISTRATE TO DO THAT.
12:35:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK WE DO.
12:35:22PM I'M SORRY, MR. MIRANDA.
12:35:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:35:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TURN YOUR MIKE ON.
12:35:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT A REASON TO JUDGE
12:35:32PM YOUR STATEMENTS OF FINDING OF FACT ON SOMETHING BUT YOU USE
12:35:36PM SOMETHING ELSE, NOT WHAT BASED ON, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT LAW
12:35:40PM FROM UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION WAY BACK WHEN IT STARTED AND
12:35:43PM NOW YOU DON'T USE THAT, YOU USE SOMEBODY ELSE'S OPINION, HOW
12:35:47PM CAN YOU SAY HE'S RIGHT?
12:35:48PM THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
12:35:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
12:35:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUE GOING THROUGH
12:35:58PM THOSE DEFINITIONS.
12:36:00PM I AGREE WITH THE FINDINGS THERE.
12:36:02PM CAN I ASK CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF THAT
12:36:09PM MOTION WHERE WE WOULD JUST REJECT IT WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF
12:36:14PM REJECTING A RULING?
12:36:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY UNDERSTANDING IF YOU REJECT THE ENTIRE
12:36:25PM ORDER AND I MIGHT NEED SOME HELP ON THIS DISCUSSION, BUT IT
12:36:30PM LOOKS LIKE HE IS REJECTING THE FORMAL DECISION OF THE ZONING
12:36:38PM ADMINISTRATOR IN PART AND AGREEING IN PART WITH REGARD TO
12:36:46PM THE CONCEPT OF TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENT WHICH WAS REALLY NOT
12:36:50PM DISCUSSED TODAY BUT WAS THE BASIS FOR THE SPECIAL EXCEPTION
12:36:56PM AS GOING BEYOND --
12:36:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T THINK THE MOTION WAS TO AGREE WITH
12:37:00PM ANY OF IT.
12:37:02PM SHE SAID BASED ON THE ONE INCONSISTENCY SHE'S REJECTING IT
12:37:05PM IN WHOLE.
12:37:06PM WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF REJECTING IT?
12:37:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHOULDN'T IT BE TAKING ERIC'S DETERMINATION
12:37:13PM AS FINAL ORDER THEN?
12:37:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO WEIGH ON
12:37:25PM THIS.
12:37:26PM THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING SITUATION.
12:37:28PM BY THE WAY, THESE FORMAL DECISIONS HAVE NOT COME UP VERY
12:37:30PM OFTEN. THIS IS VERY UNIQUE.
12:37:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE ASK MS. PETTIS-MACKLE OR REOPEN IT?
12:37:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN REOPEN AND ASK MS. PETTIS-MACKLE.
12:37:43PM YOU COULD ASK ALL OF THEM.
12:37:44PM YOU COULD ASK WHOEVER YOU WISH.
12:37:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO REOPEN.
12:37:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO REOPEN.
12:37:50PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:37:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:37:52PM THE HEARING IS REOPENED.
12:37:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: MS. PETTIS-MACKLE, COULD YOU PLEASE ANSWER
12:37:59PM THAT?
12:38:00PM THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF REJECTING THE ENTIRE
12:38:03PM ORDER?
12:38:04PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: FOR CLARIFICATION AND I APPRECIATE
12:38:05PM THE QUESTIONS.
12:38:07PM CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FOR THE RECORD.
12:38:09PM CITY COUNCIL -- LET ME JUST BREAK DOWN THE OPTIONS IN MORE
12:38:14PM DETAIL FOR CITY COUNCIL TO ADDRESS WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
12:38:17PM IS TRYING TO DO.
12:38:20PM IF -- YOU CAN, AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU CAN ADOPT THE
12:38:24PM RECOMMENDED ORDER AS THE FINAL ORDER.
12:38:26PM YOU MAY REJECT OR MODIFY THE RECOMMENDED ORDER AS PROVIDED.
12:38:32PM YOU CAN'T REJECT OR MODIFY ANY FINDINGS OF FACT, PERIOD.
12:38:36PM AND THAT'S -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS NOT TRYING TO DO REJECT
12:38:41PM -- WELL, SHE DIDN'T STATE ANYTHING ABOUT REJECTING THE
12:38:45PM FINDINGS OF FACT.
12:38:47PM IF CITY COUNCIL DETERMINES THAT A FINDING OF FACT IS NOT
12:38:52PM BASED UPON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE CONTAINED IN THE
12:38:55PM RECORD OR THAT A FINDING OF FACT DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE
12:39:00PM ESSENTIAL REQUIREMENTS OF LAW, CITY COUNCIL MAY REMAND THE
12:39:04PM MATTER BACK TO THE HEARING OFFICER, BUT ONLY IF IT
12:39:09PM DETERMINES THAT ADDITIONAL FACT FINDING IS NEEDED, IS
12:39:12PM REQUIRED.
12:39:13PM IF CITY COUNCIL REJECTS OR MODIFIES A CONCLUSION OF LAW,
12:39:18PM WHICH IS THE MATTER THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS TRYING TO
12:39:22PM ADDRESS, WHICH IS THE CONCLUSION OF LAW BY THE HEARING
12:39:26PM OFFICER, IT MUST TAKE WITH PARTICULARITY IN THE FINAL ORDER
12:39:30PM ITS REASONS AND MUST MAKE A FINDING THAT ITS SUBSTITUTION OF
12:39:36PM CONCLUSION OF LAW IS, AS, OR MORE REASONABLE THAN WHICH WAS
12:39:42PM REJECTED OR MODIFIED.
12:39:45PM THOSE ARE THE PARAMETERS IN WHICH CITY COUNCIL CAN MODIFY OR
12:39:52PM REJECT THIS MATTER WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS.
12:39:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID WE COULD ONLY REJECT A FINDING OF
12:40:00PM LAW.
12:40:01PM WE CAN'T REJECT THE ENTIRE -- WE CAN.
12:40:04PM IF WE CAN REJECT THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT, WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF
12:40:08PM THAT?
12:40:08PM CAN WE REJECT THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT?
12:40:10PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YOU CAN ADOPTED THE RECOMMENDED
12:40:12PM ORDER AS FINAL OR REJECT OR MODIFY THE RECOMMENDED ORDER.
12:40:15PM YOU CAN REJECT THE MODIFIED ORDER.
12:40:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE REJECT IT, THEN WHAT HAPPENS?
12:40:20PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: WE WILL BE CREATING A REVISED
12:40:24PM RECOMMENDED ORDER.
12:40:25PM WITH THE FINDING --
12:40:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: WITH A MOTION.
12:40:28PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CORRECT.
12:40:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:40:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK STATED BECAUSE THE
12:40:37PM MAGISTRATE USED DEFINITIONS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN OUR
12:40:45PM CODE, IN ORDER TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN
12:40:53PM DO HERE ON THE DAIS OR WHEN WE REJECT THAT STATEMENT OF FACT
12:41:00PM BY THE MAGISTRATE -- WELL, HE USES STATEMENT, BUT HE
12:41:03PM INCLUDED THOSE DEFINITIONS AS A STATEMENT OF FACT.
12:41:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL OF HIS STATEMENTS OF
12:41:11PM FACT.
12:41:12PM WE'RE REJECTING THE WHOLE THING.
12:41:13PM WHAT SHE SAID --
12:41:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT YOU USE THAT IN THE JUSTIFICATION FOR
12:41:17PM THE MOTION.
12:41:19PM IF WE USE THAT AS JUSTIFICATION FOR THE MOTION, IS THAT
12:41:22PM SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE HERE ON THE DAIS OR IS THAT
12:41:25PM SOMETHING, IF WE WANTED TO USE THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE'D
12:41:28PM HAVE TO REMAND BACK?
12:41:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. PETTIS-MACKLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO
12:41:34PM THAT BUT SO MIGHT --
12:41:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, IF YOU CAN REACH A DIFFERING
12:41:42PM CONCLUSION OF LAW BECAUSE OF THE EVIDENCE, THERE'S NO BASIS
12:41:46PM -- THERE'S NO NECESSITY, PERHAPS, TO SEND IT BACK FOR
12:41:50PM ADDITIONAL FINDINGS OF FACT.
12:41:52PM MADE FINDINGS OF FACT BUT THE QUESTION IS THEN WHAT WAS THE
12:41:56PM BASIS, WHAT WERE THE REQUIREMENTS OF LAW?
12:42:00PM I WANT TO FIND THAT SECTION OF THE CODE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S
12:42:02PM RELEVANT HERE.
12:42:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY USE THE STATEMENT, THUS BASED ON THE
12:42:09PM EVIDENCE PRESENTED, THE PLAYING OF MUSIC BY A DEEJAY DOES
12:42:12PM NOT CONSTITUTE A CONCERT UNDER THE CODE.
12:42:14PM AS SUCH, THE MUSIC ACTIVITIES WITH OR WITHOUT A DEEJAY WOULD
12:42:16PM NOT CONSTITUTE A TICKETED CONCERT UNDER THE CODE.
12:42:20PM THAT WAS A STATEMENT OF FACT.
12:42:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT SOUNDED LIKE A CONCLUSION OF LAW TO
12:42:23PM ME.
12:42:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S NOT IN HIS CONCLUSION.
12:42:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS PART OF HIS CONCLUSION.
12:42:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HIS EVALUATION AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
12:42:34PM EVALUATION RECOMMENDATIONS ON PAGE 4 OF 5, THE LAST TWO
12:42:40PM SENTENCES OF THE SECOND PARAGRAPH.
12:42:43PM THEN A FOOTNOTE, TOO, TO REFER TO.
12:42:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION, COUNCIL, TO
12:42:54PM ASSIST YOU, PERHAPS.
12:42:56PM I'M GOING TO REFER YOU TO 2761 J-1-C, ROMAN NUMERAL TWO AT
12:43:07PM THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 3 OF 6.
12:43:10PM AND WHAT THAT STATES IS ACTUALLY THE OBLIGATION OF THE
12:43:16PM HEARING OFFICER.
12:43:18PM AND IT STATES, HEARING CONSIDERATION, ROMAN NUMERAL TWO, THE
12:43:22PM HEARING OFFICER SHALL CONSIDER ALL RELEVANT EVIDENCE AND
12:43:25PM TESTIMONY PRESENTED PRIOR TO OR DURING THE HEARING,
12:43:28PM INCLUDING THE FORMAL DECISION ISSUED BY THE ZONING
12:43:30PM ADMINISTRATOR AND ALL COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE UPON
12:43:35PM WHICH THAT FORMAL DECISION WAS BASED.
12:43:37PM THE HEARING OFFICER SHALL ALSO CONSIDER ALL RELEVANT
12:43:42PM PROVISIONS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES OR OTHER
12:43:46PM APPLICABLE FEDERAL, STATE -- FEDERAL OR STATE LAW IN EFFECT
12:43:51PM AT THE TIME PETITION WAS FILED.
12:43:53PM ANOTHER PROVISION I THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
12:44:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE TO CLOSE.
12:44:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN
12:44:03PM HURTAK.
12:44:04PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:44:05PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:44:06PM AYE.
12:44:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M GOING BACK TO MY DENIAL -- I'M SORRY, MY
12:44:15PM REJECTION.
12:44:16PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:44:16PM THE REJECTION BASED ON WHAT I SAID, AND THEN THE SECOND
12:44:21PM ORDER WOULD THEN BE TO ASK I BELIEVE MS. PETTIS-MACKLE OR
12:44:30PM MR. SHELBY TO WRITE A NEW ORDER.
12:44:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WOULD BE A RESOLUTION.
12:44:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A DIFFERENT RESOLUTION.
12:44:37PM AS I STATED BEFORE, DO I NEED TO -- SURE, NOT A PROBLEM.
12:44:44PM I'M GOING TO TRY.
12:44:46PM I REJECT THIS RECOMMENDED ORDER BECAUSE A FINDING OF FACT
12:45:07PM DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE ESSENTIAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW.
12:45:12PM ACTUALLY, NO.
12:45:13PM I APOLOGIZE.
12:45:15PM I'M DOWN HERE -- REJECTING -- I'M RECOMMENDING -- WOW.
12:45:24PM I'M REJECTING THE CONCLUSION BECAUSE THE MAGISTRATE DEFINED
12:45:34PM THE WEBSTER'S DEFINITION ON PAGE 4 OF 5, FURTHER DEFINES THE
12:45:40PM WORD CONCERT AS A PUBLIC PERFORMANCE AS OF MUSIC OR DANCING
12:45:43PM BUT THEN ADDITIONALLY USED A VOCABULARY.COM DEFINITION WHICH
12:45:48PM IS NOT ALLOWED IN OUR CODE.
12:45:51PM SO I AM USING THAT AS MY RECOMMENDATION FOR REJECTION.
12:46:04PM MR. MIRANDA, I SEE YOU'RE --
12:46:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:46:08PM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN ESSENCE JUST THE OPPOSITE.
12:46:11PM THE COUNCIL WHO WAS HERE PASSED THAT BASED ON THE WEBSTER'S
12:46:15PM DEFINITION OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
12:46:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE COUNCIL BEFORE.
12:46:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE HEARING OFFICER AND I'M NOT GOING TO
12:46:24PM MENTION, ANYONE HEARING OFFICER, OTHER THAN WHAT THE LAW WAS
12:46:28PM BASED ON THE BASIS THAT WAS PRESENTED IN 2017.
12:46:31PM AND I STILL BELIEVE THAT THOSE RECORDS, IF THEY ARE NOT
12:46:33PM AVAILABLE, THEY CAN BE FOUND IN THE CITY'S, WHERE THEY KEEP
12:46:38PM THE ARCHIVES, MIGHT BE ON VIDEO WHAT HAPPENED AND ABLE TO
12:46:42PM REVIEW THAT AS TO WHY IT HAPPENED.
12:46:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:46:45PM BUT ONE OF THE PETITIONERS ACTUALLY DID SHARE A LOT OF THE
12:46:49PM WRITTEN.
12:46:50PM SO, YES, THAT IS MY.
12:46:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION, DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:46:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OR SOME MODIFICATION.
12:46:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:46:59PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WHAT DID YOU WANT TO SAY?
12:47:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS IT ACCURATE TO SAY THAT YOU REJECT THE
12:47:05PM ORDER BECAUSE A FINDING OF LAW WAS BASED ON AN INACCURATE
12:47:11PM FINDING OF FACT?
12:47:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN'T SAY THAT THERE IS AN INACCURATE
12:47:16PM FINDING OF FACT.
12:47:17PM WE MUST ACCEPT THE FINDINGS OF FACT --
12:47:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT BASED ON A FINDING OF FACT THAT IS --
12:47:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAINST OUR CODE.
12:47:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: AGAINST THE CODE.
12:47:26PM YEAH.
12:47:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
12:47:28PM HURTAK WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:47:30PM LET'S TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:47:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
12:47:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:47:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:47:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:47:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:47:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:47:46PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
12:47:49PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
12:47:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE IN --
12:47:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE NOW HAVE TO DO A REVISED ORDER.
12:48:00PM MS. PETTIS-MACKLE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE HELP?
12:48:08PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: SO THE REVISED ORDER, ACCORDING TO
12:48:12PM CODE SECTION 27-61, THE REVISED ORDER SHALL BE TRANSMITTED
12:48:16PM TO THE PARTIES AND NONPARTY PARTICIPANTS AND PRESENTED TO
12:48:20PM CITY COUNCIL WITHIN 45 DAYS FOR ADOPTION.
12:48:23PM SO 45 DAYS OF TODAY, SORRY, I DON'T HAVE MY CALENDAR.
12:48:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHILE THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE CALENDAR, MY
12:48:33PM QUESTION IS, WAS THE REJECTION ENOUGH TO GIVE YOU WHAT YOU
12:48:39PM NEED TO WRITE THAT REVISED ORDER?
12:48:42PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: YES.
12:48:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT'S WHERE I WAS STUCK.
12:48:45PM I THOUGHT WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.
12:48:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEPTEMBER 21st.
12:48:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW MANY DAYS IS THAT?
12:48:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OVER 45 DAYS.
12:48:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT'S OVER 45 DAYS --
12:48:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE SEPTEMBER 7 AND THEN --
12:49:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SEPTEMBER 7.
12:49:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT?
12:49:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
12:49:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM -- THIS IS TO WRITE THE
12:49:16PM ORDER --
12:49:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ARE DIRECTING STAFF --
12:49:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WITHIN 45 DAYS, NOT AFTER.
12:49:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, WITH REGARD TO THE FINAL ORDER --
12:49:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WILL BE SEPTEMBER 7 AT THE REGULAR
12:49:28PM COUNCIL MEETING.
12:49:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, IF COUNCIL DIRECTS STAFF TO PREPARE A
12:49:32PM REVISED ORDER, WHICH I BELIEVE YOUR MOTION IS THE REVISED
12:49:35PM ORDER SHALL BE TRANSMITTED TO THE PARTIES AND NONPARTY
12:49:39PM PARTICIPANTS AND PRESENTED TO COUNCIL WITHIN 45 DAYS, THAT
12:49:42PM DATE -- WITHIN 45 DAYS, SEPTEMBER 7 OF 2023.
12:49:47PM AGAIN, THE LOCATION --
12:49:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR.
12:49:52PM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
12:49:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ALSO -- NOW THAT THE RECORD IS CLOSED, IT
12:49:59PM IS A CLOSED RECORD, AND IT'S STILL A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER.
12:50:05PM SO I'M GOING TO -- AND I HAVE NOT HEARD, COUNCIL, ANY
12:50:10PM REGARD, WITH REGARD TO EX PARTE COMMUNICATION, HAVEN'T HAD
12:50:14PM DISCLOSURES OF THAT.
12:50:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
12:50:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT BEING THE CASE, I'LL REMIND YOU THAT
12:50:19PM DURING THE PENDENCY OF THIS UNTIL AFTER THE APPEAL PERIOD,
12:50:23PM THAT YOU REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING IN EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.
12:50:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN FOR
12:50:28PM IT TO COME BACK SEPTEMBER 7 AS STATED.
12:50:30PM SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:50:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:50:32PM AYE.
12:50:33PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:50:33PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:50:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LEGAL DEPARTMENT?
12:50:38PM MS. PETTIS-MACKLE, WILL YOUR DEPARTMENT BE DRAFTING THAT
12:50:44PM ORDER OR ME?
12:50:44PM SHE DIRECTED IT TO YOU.
12:50:47PM THAT'S WHY I WAS WONDERING.
12:50:50PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S
12:50:53PM MOTION WAS FOR THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO DO IT.
12:50:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT.
12:50:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RECESS UNTIL 2:15.
12:51:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE VOTE WAS TAKEN?
12:51:03PM YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR ANY OPPOSED?
12:51:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OPPOSED?
12:51:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD YOU ANNOUNCE THE VOTE FOR THE
12:51:12PM PURPOSES OF THE RECORD.
12:51:14PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
12:51:16PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
12:51:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
12:51:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE IN RECESS UNTIL 2:15.
12:51:23PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:51:24PM [LUNCH RECESS]
2:17:15PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
2:17:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS CITY COUNCIL
2:17:17PM MEETING TO ORDER.
2:17:18PM IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
2:17:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
2:17:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
2:17:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
2:17:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
2:17:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
2:17:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
2:17:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
2:17:28PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
2:17:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:17:30PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING?
2:17:32PM MOTION TO OPEN FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:17:35PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
2:17:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:17:38PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:17:38PM ALL RIGHT.
2:17:39PM THERE WAS A REQUEST TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 50 FROM THIS ITEM.
2:17:43PM IF WE CAN GET A MOTION -- REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
2:17:46PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 50 FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
2:17:51PM MIRANDA, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
2:17:54PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:17:54PM AYE.
2:17:56PM IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH COUNCIL, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE UP ITEM
2:18:01PM NUMBER 69 TO BE HEARD FIRST AND ITEM 60 BECAUSE AT LEAST ONE
2:18:08PM COUNCIL MEMBER NEEDS TO LEAVE EARLY.
2:18:11PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN,
2:18:13PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
2:18:15PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:18:15PM ALL RIGHT.
2:18:16PM WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 69.
2:18:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
2:19:00PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
2:19:02PM I AM HERE PURSUANT TO THE CITY CODE SECTION 27 J 1-E-3 WHERE
2:19:14PM CITY COUNCIL HAS THE TASK IN FRONT OF IT OF ADOPTING A FINAL
2:19:21PM ORDER IN THE PETITION OF REVIEW OF FDN 21-125 FOR THE
2:19:25PM PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 1916 AND 1918 EAST 5th AVENUE.
2:19:30PM THAT BASED ON COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, REJECTS AND REVISES THE
2:19:35PM AMEND -- RECOMMENDED ORDER OF THE HEARING OFFICER, GRANTS
2:19:39PM THE PETITION, AND OVERTURNS THE FORMAL DECISION OF THE
2:19:41PM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR DATED AUGUST 30th, 2021.
2:19:44PM YOU HAD BEEN PROVIDED PREVIOUSLY WITH A RESOLUTION AND WITH
2:19:49PM A FINAL ORDER OVERTURNING THE FORMAL DECISION OF THE ZONING
2:19:53PM ADMINISTRATOR.
2:19:54PM WHAT I AM ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER AND WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT
2:19:58PM OF YOU IS TO ACCEPT A SUBSTITUTION AND THE SUBSTITUTION IS
2:20:03PM AS FOLLOWS: IT IS PRIMARILY IT IS MINOR AND IT IS GRAMMAR,
2:20:07PM SYNTAX, A COUPLE OF TYPOS AND ONE WORD THAT WAS REPLACED TO
2:20:13PM MAKE IT COMPORT WITH THE FINDINGS OF FACT AND I'LL POINT
2:20:16PM THAT OUT TO YOU.
2:20:17PM THE OTHER THING IT DOES, AS IT'S STATED IN THE ORDER, IT
2:20:20PM ATTACHES THE AUGUST 17, 2021, FORMAL DECISION OF ERIC
2:20:26PM COTTON, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
2:20:27PM SO WITH REGARD TO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IN THE
2:20:31PM CONCLUSIONS -- EXCUSE ME, THE FINDINGS OF FACT, WHICH ARE
2:20:37PM LOCATED ON THE START OF THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 2 AT NUMBER 9, IT
2:20:45PM SAYS, AFTER AUGUST 30th, 2021, AFTER COMMUNICATING WITH
2:20:49PM THE CITY'S LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND AFTER CONSULTATION WITH HIS
2:20:52PM DIRECTOR, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR ISSUED A NEW FORMAL
2:20:56PM DECISION.
2:20:56PM THE REVISED FORMAL DECISION, SEE RECOMMENDED ORDER PAGE 7.
2:20:59PM THAT'S ON THE TOP OF PAGE 3.
2:21:02PM THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THAT, AND THAT'S NOT EVEN A
2:21:05PM SUBSTANTIVE DIFFERENCE.
2:21:06PM BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS ORIGINALLY IN THE COPY THAT WAS FILED
2:21:08PM IT SAID WITH HIS SUPERVISOR WHEN, IN FACT, THE ACTUAL WORD
2:21:11PM THAT WAS USED FOR THE FINDING OF FACT WAS DIRECTOR.
2:21:15PM I REPLACED THAT.
2:21:16PM OTHER THEN, AGAIN, AS I SAID, MINOR CORRECTIONS OF GRAMMAR,
2:21:20PM SYNTAX, A COUPLE OF TYPOS, WHAT I DID IS PRESENT IT TO YOU
2:21:25PM TODAY AND ASK THAT IT BE SUBSTITUTED FOR AND CONSIDERED BY
2:21:29PM COUNCIL THIS AFTERNOON.
2:21:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
2:21:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'D LIKE TO JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE
2:21:36PM RESOLUTION.
2:21:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTION
2:21:40PM PLEASE.
2:21:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY.
2:21:41PM MOVE THE SUBSTITUTED RESOLUTION.
2:21:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE.
2:21:45PM MAKE IT TWO SETS.
2:21:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
2:21:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
2:21:53PM ROLL CALL.
2:21:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY, YOU CAN DO A VOICE VOTE.
2:21:59PM IT IS JUST REPLACING WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED.
2:22:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
2:22:03PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:22:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS THE
2:22:08PM RESOLUTION AND THE ORDER NEXT TO IT WITH A FORMAL DECISION
2:22:12PM LETTER DATED AUGUST 17 OF 2021, AND THAT IS FOR YOUR
2:22:16PM CONSIDERATION.
2:22:18PM WHEN YOU SIGN THIS OR WHEN YOU PASS THIS, THIS BECOMES THE
2:22:22PM POSITION OF CITY COUNCIL.
2:22:23PM THESE BECOME COUNCIL'S OFFICIAL POSITION.
2:22:27PM THIS IS THE OFFICIAL RECORD AND IT'S THE FORMAL DECISION
2:22:32PM RELATIVE TO WHAT WAS THE PETITION FOR REVIEW AND YOUR
2:22:37PM FINDINGS AND YOUR CONCLUSIONS.
2:22:39PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
2:22:41PM I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:22:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
2:22:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I MAKE A COMMENT FIRST?
2:22:46PM I READ THIS IN GREAT DETAIL.
2:22:48PM I THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF CAPTURING THE SENTIMENT OF
2:22:51PM COUNCIL AND THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD DURING THE HEARING.
2:22:53PM I COMMEND THAT AND THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
2:22:58PM KUDOS TO YOU.
2:22:59PM PERFECTLY CAPTURED THE SENTIMENT AND THE FINDINGS OF COUNCIL
2:23:02PM DURING THAT MEETING.
2:23:03PM THANK YOU.
2:23:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
2:23:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
2:23:05PM YOU HAD A MOTION, MA'AM?
2:23:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION, WELL, NOW IT'S
2:23:11PM NOT SUBSTITUTE.
2:23:13PM CALL IT A SUBSTITUTE.
2:23:14PM I MOVE THE SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION.
2:23:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:23:19PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:23:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THAT'S YOUR PLEASURE.
2:23:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:23:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
2:23:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
2:23:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:23:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:23:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:23:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:23:31PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:23:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:23:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
2:23:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 60.
2:23:48PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR.
2:23:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HELLO, SIR.
2:23:51PM GO AHEAD.
2:23:53PM >>VIK BHIDE: VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT HERE TO ADDRESS
2:23:58PM ITEM 60, A MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND CARLSON
2:24:06PM RELATIVE TO THE SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION ON, ISABELLA BUT IT'S
2:24:15PM SANTIAGO, THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION NEAR BAYSHORE.
2:24:21PM WE HEARD SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS RELATIVE TO THE SAME EARLIER
2:24:27PM THIS MORNING.
2:24:29PM WE DID SUBMIT A MEMO FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION AND
2:24:35PM SUBSEQUENT BRIEFING.
2:24:36PM SO I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WILL BE
2:24:40PM ASSISTED AS NEEDED BY OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
2:24:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
2:24:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HI, VIK.
2:24:46PM AS YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN PASSIONATELY INVOLVED IN THIS AND
2:24:51PM MOSTLY REFERENCE ABOUT THE TREE.
2:24:54PM AND YOU KNOW FROM PERSONAL DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU AND I THAT
2:24:57PM I'M ALL ABOUT SIDEWALKS, RIGHT?
2:24:58PM I SUPPORT THE SIDEWALKS.
2:25:02PM BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW VALUABLE THIS PARTICULAR TREE IS
2:25:06PM AND THE CONCERN.
2:25:06PM WE HEARD SOME OF THAT COMMENT EVEN FROM THE CONTRACTORS'
2:25:14PM CONSULTANT OR ARBORIST TODAY THAT WOULD PROBABLY BACK MAYBE
2:25:17PM SOME ALTERNATIVES.
2:25:18PM JUST IN FULL DISCLOSURE, AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY, I HAD A
2:25:22PM MEETING WITH A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE RELATED GROUP ABOUT
2:25:27PM POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES.
2:25:28PM I -- TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I LOOK TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO
2:25:31PM HOPEFULLY HAVE AN ANSWER FROM THEM AT A FUTURE DATE, BUT OUR
2:25:35PM SCHEDULE IS SO PACKED BECAUSE IT'S BUDGET SEASON THAT I
2:25:39PM WASN'T ABLE TO CONTINUE -- WHAT I CONSIDER A REASONABLE TIME
2:25:42PM TO BE FAIR TO RELATED AS WELL.
2:25:45PM THE DISCUSSION WAS USING -- BECAUSE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS
2:25:53PM AND DISCUSSION, UP UNTIL THE LAST MEETING I HAD BEEN ASSURED
2:25:56PM THAT WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE WAS PERMEABLE MATERIAL FOR
2:25:58PM THE SIDEWALK.
2:25:59PM IT WAS REALLY A SURPRISE TO ME TO FIND OUT THEY WERE GOING
2:26:02PM TO USE CONCRETE IN THE LAST MEETING.
2:26:04PM OF COURSE, IT WAS ALL JUST NORMAL CONVERSATIONS AFTER THAT
2:26:06PM POINT.
2:26:07PM IT WAS KIND OF A SURPRISE.
2:26:08PM THE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH RELATED FOLKS IS WHAT WOULD IT
2:26:11PM TAKE TO DO PERMEABLE MATERIAL OVER THIS PORTION OF THE TREE.
2:26:15PM THEY POURED THE SIDEWALK UP TO WHERE THEY HAVE NOW.
2:26:18PM THEY EXPRESSED CONCERNS BECAUSE OF USING TWO DIFFERENT TYPES
2:26:21PM OF MATERIAL.
2:26:22PM ONE FOR THE CURB AND ONE FOR THE SIDEWALK, BUT GOING TO
2:26:25PM PURSUE ENGINEERING ALTERNATIVES THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE
2:26:27PM TO MEET THAT NEED.
2:26:28PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO LEAVE THIS BECAUSE, AGAIN, WHAT HE
2:26:32PM RELATED TO ME WAS AN IOU TO GET BACK WITH ME ABOUT BEING
2:26:37PM ABLE TO USE PERMEABLE MATERIAL TO PROTECT THE TREE AND STILL
2:26:40PM HAVE WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO REFERENCE THE CURB AND THAT
2:26:44PM PERMEABLE MATERIAL ON THE SIDEWALK.
2:26:46PM BASICALLY I'LL KIND OF DEFER TO YOU TO TELL ME WHAT CAN WE
2:26:54PM DO WITH THAT?
2:26:56PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
2:26:57PM AND THANK YOU FOR THE DILIGENCE, COUNCILMAN.
2:27:01PM I DID CIRCLE BACK WITH OUR TEAM, OF COURSE, AND WE LOOKED AT
2:27:06PM WHAT OTHER ALTERNATIVES WE HAD CONSIDERED RELATIVE TO THE PD
2:27:12PM APPROVAL, AND WE DID LOOK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF USING EITHER
2:27:17PM FLEX PAVE OR PERVIOUS MATERIAL.
2:27:19PM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WHAT THAT WOULD HAVE DONE IS
2:27:24PM RESULTED IN THAT MATERIAL BEING CLOSER TO THE TREE ROOT
2:27:29PM SYSTEM AND POSSIBLY MORE HARMFUL TO THE TREE THAN THE
2:27:34PM SOLUTION THAT WAS ULTIMATELY ARRIVED AT WITH THE TWO
2:27:39PM PARTIES, AND THAT WAS BUILDING A SAND BASE AND LIFTING THE
2:27:43PM ENTIRE SYSTEM UP, KEEPING A CONCRETE SIDEWALK AND THEN
2:27:48PM ELEVATING IT TO SUCH A POINT WHERE THE CURB COULD BE
2:27:52PM SUPPORTED AS PART OF THAT SYSTEM, WHICH IS WHY YOU HAVE A
2:27:56PM MUCH HIGHER CURB FOR A STRUCTURAL SUPPORT FOR THE CURB, MUCH
2:28:01PM MORE THAN THE TREE ITSELF.
2:28:03PM AND THIS CREATES MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE TREE.
2:28:06PM SO THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS THE ROADWAY ENGINEER AND THE
2:28:13PM TREE EXPERTS EXPLAINED TO ME.
2:28:17PM IT DOES LOOK LIKE BASED ON MY NOTES THEY DID CONSIDER
2:28:21PM PERVIOUS MATERIAL.
2:28:22PM THEY DID CONSIDER SOME SORT OF FLEX PAVE, BUT THAT WAS NOT
2:28:27PM FOUND TO BE AS BENEFICIAL FROM A TREE HEALTH PERSPECTIVE AS
2:28:34PM WHAT THEY ARRIVED AT ULTIMATELY.
2:28:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DID THE SITE VISIT.
2:28:38PM AS I SAID DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WITH THE RELATED
2:28:41PM GROUP, IF YOU SEE THE CURB THAT THEY POURED, IT'S NOT UP
2:28:45PM LIKE THAT.
2:28:46PM I CAN THROW IT ON THE ELMO IF WE HAVE TO, THE PICTURES OF
2:28:49PM THE CURB AND HOW IT'S DONE.
2:28:52PM IN ORDER TO PUT THAT SIDEWALK IN.
2:28:54PM THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE A QUESTION.
2:28:56PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT OR
2:28:58PM ARBORIST.
2:29:00PM HI, ABBYE.
2:29:02PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN ARBORIST.
2:29:04PM ACTUALLY, ABBYE COULD ANSWER THE QUESTION.
2:29:06PM IF I'M A PRIVATE HOMEOWNER AND I HAVE A GRAND TREE ON MY
2:29:11PM PROPERTY, WHAT RESTRICTIONS ARE THERE OF PROTECTING THE
2:29:14PM CIRCUMFERENCE OF THAT GRAND TREE IF I WANT TO BUILD A
2:29:19PM PROJECT?
2:29:20PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD AFTERNOON.
2:29:21PM ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH
2:29:23PM MANAGEMENT.
2:29:24PM THERE ARE, WE HAVE A 20-FOOT PROTECTIVE RADIUS AROUND GRAND
2:29:31PM TREES.
2:29:31PM HOWEVER THEY DO ALLOW FOR ENCROACHMENTS INTO THAT AREA
2:29:35PM SOMETIMES WITH PIER AND LINTEL FOUNDATIONS OR WHAT WE REFER
2:29:39PM TO AS FLOATING FOUNDATIONS.
2:29:41PM AND SOMETIMES THEY'LL ALLOW YOU TO COME IN SO MANY FEET WHEN
2:29:45PM THE REST IS OPEN.
2:29:46PM BUT ONE THING I WANTED TO ADD TODAY AND I POPPED ON AND I'VE
2:29:50PM BEEN WORKING WITH IT CLOSELY ON THIS MATTER IS THE
2:29:56PM MAINTENANCE AND HEALTH OF THE TREE IS REALLY OF WHAT IS OF
2:29:59PM GREATEST IMPORTANCE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE FLEXI-PAVE IS
2:30:03PM REALLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING TODAY.
2:30:06PM I KNOW THAT MR. PETERIKA IS PROBABLY GONE, BUT MAYBE IT IS
2:30:10PM LOOKING AT PUTTING INTO EFFECT A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT OR A
2:30:16PM TREE.
2:30:16PM I WAS JUST SITTING HERE THINKING, WELL, IS IT GETTING THE
2:30:19PM WATER TO THE TREE?
2:30:20PM IS IT MAINTAINING THE HEALTH OF THE TREE?
2:30:23PM IN THE PAST WE'VE DONE THAT AND WE COULD GET MOBILITY
2:30:30PM ARBORIST IN COORDINATION WITH MR. PETERIKA AND COME UP WITH
2:30:35PM SOMETIMES WE USE WANE FEEDERS, WE USE OTHER MECHANISMS TO
2:30:40PM ENSURE THAT WATER AND NUTRIENTS ARE CONTINUING TO GET TO THE
2:30:44PM TREE.
2:30:45PM I THINK WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE ARBORIST IN THIS MATTER IS
2:30:48PM THIS WILL NOT IMPACT THE HEALTH OF THE TREE, BUT IF WE WANT
2:30:53PM TO ENSURE IT, PERHAPS WE TRAVEL DOWN THE PATH OF GETTING A
2:30:58PM MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT FOR THE NEXT 24 TO 36 MONTHS TO
2:31:05PM CONTINUE TO ENSURE THE HEALTH OF THE TREE UNDER THE
2:31:07PM SUPERVISION OF AN ARBORIST.
2:31:09PM THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY OTHER SUGGESTION AT THIS POINT IN
2:31:13PM TIME.
2:31:13PM AND WE HAVE DONE THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS ON MANY OF THE
2:31:20PM LARGE TREES THAT WE HAVE SOUGHT TO MAINTAIN AND PRESERVE
2:31:24PM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
2:31:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE USE PERVIOUS MATERIAL TO PROTECT
2:31:31PM GRAND TREES, AS AN EXAMPLE, FOR OTHER PROJECTS?
2:31:34PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO WE USE PERVIOUS MATERIALS, BUT THEY AREN'T
2:31:37PM NECESSARILY TO PROTECT GRAND TREES.
2:31:39PM KIND OF HARKENING BACK TO SOMETHING THAT THE TREE EXPERT,
2:31:47PM RICKY, MENTIONED THIS MORNING, THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES OF
2:31:50PM SIDEWALK AND TREE CONFLICTS AROUND THE CITY.
2:31:54PM I THINK THE POINT HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE WAS, IN MOST OF
2:31:59PM THOSE CASES, THE TREE ALWAYS WINS.
2:32:02PM MEANING THE TREE IS FINE.
2:32:04PM IT IS THE SIDEWALK THAT MIGHT GET IMPACTED, WHICH IS WHY WE
2:32:08PM DEVELOPED THE SOLUTION WHERE YOU HAVE A SAND BASE, YES, IT'S
2:32:11PM HIGHER UP AND LITTLE HIGHER UP, BUT WE LOOKED AT OTHER
2:32:19PM OPTIONS, NARROWING THE ROADWAY OR NARROWING SIDEWALKS ON
2:32:22PM BOTH SIDES, EVEN IN THIS CASE, IT MEETS ADA BUT IT WOULDN'T
2:32:26PM BE -- WIDTH, 48 INCHES MINIMUM.
2:32:30PM TYPICALLY WE DO FIVE FEET OR TRY TO DO FIVE FEET.
2:32:33PM SO WE'VE EXPLORED ALL OPTIONS.
2:32:37PM WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THE TREE IS GOING TO BE FINE.
2:32:39PM IF ANYTHING, THE SIDEWALK MAY GET IMPACTED AT WHICH POINT IT
2:32:43PM IS A MAINTENANCE ISSUE FOR THE SIDEWALK, NOT AS MUCH AS THE
2:32:47PM HEALTH OF THE TREE.
2:32:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT NOW WE'RE
2:32:51PM TALKING ABOUT EXISTING CONDITIONS, NOT A TREE THAT'S GROWN
2:32:53PM INTO THE SIDEWALK LIKE WHAT WE SEE TYPICALLY IN AREAS WHERE
2:32:56PM TREES HAVE GROWN AND IMPACTED SIDEWALKS.
2:32:58PM AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AREA, I DID A SITE VISIT.
2:33:01PM THIS TREE IS ALREADY BECAUSE OF EXISTING CONDITIONS, ALREADY
2:33:04PM IN A RELATIVE CONTAINED AREA WITHOUT A LOT OF GREENSPACE TO
2:33:09PM THRIVE.
2:33:09PM OBVIOUSLY, IT'S DOING JUST FINE RIGHT NOW.
2:33:12PM I JUST HATE TO SEE US -- SO WHAT HARM WOULD IT DO TO PURSUE
2:33:18PM THIS PERVIOUS MATERIAL?
2:33:21PM IF IT'S JUST THAT LITTLE BIT -- IF RELATED IS AGREEABLE TO
2:33:26PM THAT, WHAT HARM WOULD IT DO?
2:33:30PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON OUR TREE FOLKS AND
2:33:33PM OUR ENGINEER IS THAT A PERVIOUS MATERIAL WOULD LIKELY BE A
2:33:39PM LITTLE BIT MORE HARMFUL FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT TO THE
2:33:42PM TREE'S HEALTH THAN THE SOLUTION THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH.
2:33:45PM SO THE OBJECTIVE IS THE TREE'S HEALTH, THEN WE FEEL LIKE
2:33:50PM WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH IS THE BEST.
2:33:52PM AGAIN, ULTIMATELY, NOT HAVING A SIDEWALK WOULD HAVE THE
2:33:59PM LEAST IMPACT ON THE TREE, BUT THE SIDEWALK WAS APPROVED AND
2:34:03PM IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL WE CAN ACCOMMODATE VERY SAFELY.
2:34:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THERE SOMEBODY FROM THE TREE DEPARTMENT
2:34:10PM TO TALK TO THAT ISSUE?
2:34:12PM ANYBODY AVAILABLE?
2:34:16PM >>VIK BHIDE: I DON'T HAVE OUR RIGHT-OF-WAY TREE EXPERT CLINT
2:34:22PM SHOCKLEY ON RIGHT NOW, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN
2:34:25PM GET BACK TO YOU ON IT.
2:34:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
2:34:29PM HONESTLY, I ALSO, I HAVE TO SAY, IT'S ONE OF THOSE
2:34:33PM SITUATIONS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, WE HAVE THIS PROTECTED
2:34:36PM CIRCUMFERENCE THAT WE HOLD PRIVATE HOMEOWNERS TO, AND YET
2:34:40PM WE'RE NOT WILLING TO HOLD OURSELVES TO THAT.
2:34:42PM AND I GET THE BIGGER PICTURE OF ENCOURAGING SIDEWALK
2:34:47PM DEVELOPMENT AND TRYING TO BALANCE THIS OUT.
2:34:48PM I'M LOOKING FOR A REASONABLE SOLUTION, A WIN-WIN-WIN, YOU
2:34:53PM KNOW, THAT THE CITY WINS, RELATED WINS, THE HOMEOWNER WINS
2:34:58PM AND THE TREE WINS, SO I GUESS FOUR WINS THERE.
2:35:01PM THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND.
2:35:03PM RIGHT NOW -- I DON'T SEE THAT RIGHT NOW.
2:35:06PM I GET THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET A FREE SIDEWALK, BUT THAT'S
2:35:09PM THE ONLY THING I SEE RIGHT NOW.
2:35:13PM >>VIK BHIDE: GOT IT.
2:35:13PM IF IT HELPS, WHAT WE COULD DO IS TO ABBYE'S POINT IS EXPLORE
2:35:18PM NOT JUST A MAINTENANCE ITEM, BUT ARE THERE OTHER OPTIONS
2:35:22PM THAT WE CAN LOOK AT RELATIVE TO THE EXISTING DESIGN OR WE
2:35:27PM LOOK AT RATHER BECAUSE I THINK THE TEAM HAD GONE THROUGH A
2:35:31PM FEW OPTIONS HERE.
2:35:33PM AND THEN BACK EITHER OFF-LINE, COUNCIL, WHATEVER THE
2:35:39PM COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
2:35:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
2:35:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: INSPIRED BY MY COLLEAGUE I TOOK PART OF MY
2:35:48PM LUNCH BREAK AND WENT OUT THERE.
2:35:50PM I HAD SEEN THE PICTURES BUT WHEN YOU GO OUT THERE IT IS A
2:35:54PM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
2:35:54PM FIRST OF ALL, I'M SURPRISED THAT THE TREE HAS SURVIVED.
2:35:59PM AND I FEEL BAD FOR ALL THE PEOPLE AROUND THAT AREA.
2:36:03PM BY THE WAY, I VOTED AGAINST THIS PROJECT TWICE BECAUSE MANY
2:36:07PM REASONS.
2:36:08PM THIS TREE I'M NOT AN ARBORIST BUT IT LOOKS TO ME TO BE
2:36:13PM SEVERAL HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
2:36:14PM IT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST GRAND TREES I'VE SEEN IN SOUTH
2:36:17PM TAMPA.
2:36:19PM IT IS NOT JUST ON THIS ROAD THAT IS LISTED, BUT IT REALLY IS
2:36:25PM A BAYSHORE OAK.
2:36:27PM IT HANGS OVER THE SIDEWALK ON THE WEST SIDE OF BAYSHORE.
2:36:31PM WE WOULD NEVER CONSIDER TEARING DOWN ONE OF THE GRAND OAKS
2:36:37PM ON BAYSHORE.
2:36:42PM I'M SURPRISED THAT THE APARTMENT COMPLEX IT WAS NEXT TO WAS
2:36:45PM APPROVED WHENEVER THAT WAS DONE.
2:36:47PM AS MY COLLEAGUE JUST SAID, THERE'S VERY LITTLE GREENSPACE
2:36:49PM AROUND THERE, BUT THAT WAS THE BACKYARD I GUESS BEFORE THIS
2:36:52PM WHOLE THING HAPPENED.
2:36:55PM I LISTENED TO THE EVIDENCE THIS MORNING AS PRESENTED, BUT IT
2:37:06PM SEEMS TO ME WE JUST CAN'T PUT ANYTHING THERE.
2:37:09PM THE PERMEABLE SOLUTIONS DON'T WORK.
2:37:11PM WE CAN'T PUT A SIDEWALK ON TOP OF.
2:37:14PM CAN'T BUILD IT UP AND PUT A SIDEWALK.
2:37:16PM YOU KNOW MY STREET VERY WELL BECAUSE BEFORE I MOVED IN THERE
2:37:19PM WAS LOTS OF FLOODING AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS BUT MY
2:37:22PM STREET IS KNOWN FOR ITS OAK COVERAGE.
2:37:25PM THERE ARE ALMOST NO SIDEWALKS THERE AND NOBODY CAN PUT
2:37:29PM SIDEWALKS.
2:37:30PM WHEN YOU WERE TRYING TO FIX THE ROAD FOR FLOODING, YOU
2:37:33PM COULDN'T DO MOST OF THE OPTIONS BECAUSE OF THE TREES BECAUSE
2:37:36PM THEY WOULD HAVE KILLED THE TREES.
2:37:38PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND IN THIS SITUATION WHY WE WOULD INSIST
2:37:42PM PUTTING A SIDEWALK HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
2:37:44PM I KNOW WE NEED SIDEWALKS IN OTHER AREAS AND THIS IS THE LAST
2:37:47PM LITTLE GAP BEFORE YOU GET TO BAYSHORE, BUT IT LOOKS TO ME
2:37:54PM LIKE ANYTHING YOU WOULD DO -- A SIDEWALK -- I DIDN'T MEASURE
2:37:58PM IT, PROBABLY 20, 30 PERCENT OF THE GREENSPACE AROUND THIS
2:38:02PM TREE.
2:38:03PM THIS IS NOT JUST A SMALL TREE.
2:38:05PM IT IS AN ENORMOUS OLD TREE.
2:38:07PM YOU MENTIONED CHICANE.
2:38:13PM I GUESS WHAT THAT MEANS IS IT WOULD BREAK OUT INTO THE ROAD.
2:38:17PM I WOULD SAY FIRST OF ALL WHATEVER MOTION WE MADE BEFORE TO
2:38:20PM STOP THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS REMAINDER OF THE SIDEWALK.
2:38:23PM THEY HAVE DONE ALL THE WAY UP TO IT.
2:38:25PM IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN CONSCIOUS NOT TO GO TOO FAR.
2:38:28PM BUT I WOULD SAY THAT SHOULD HOLD IN PLACE UNTIL WE FIND SOME
2:38:32PM OTHER OPTION.
2:38:33PM MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE NOT TO FINISH ANYTHING ON TOP OF
2:38:35PM THAT.
2:38:36PM IF THERE WAS SOME WAY WE COULD JUT OUT ON THE ROAD TO
2:38:40PM CONTINUE THE SIDEWALK, FINE.
2:38:41PM LOTS OF OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE ARE GRAND OAKS THAT
2:38:43PM ARE SMALLER THAN THIS, NOBODY CAN PUT IN SIDEWALK OR DO
2:38:48PM UNDERGROUND WORK BECAUSE IT WOULD DESTROY THE OVERHEAD, AND
2:38:53PM THAT IS, AS WE KNOW FROM MANY DIFFERENT AREAS, THAT'S ONE OF
2:38:56PM THE THINGS THAT MAKES TAMPA UNIQUE.
2:39:01PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO, COUNCIL, THAT IS A GOOD POINT, ESPECIALLY
2:39:04PM YOUR LAST POINT WHICH IS YOU CAN'T DO WORK UNDERGROUND.
2:39:09PM AND THAT'S USUALLY THE CHALLENGE PUTTING IN A STORMWATER
2:39:12PM SYSTEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH GRAND TREES.
2:39:15PM SIDEWALKS ARE AS WELL.
2:39:18PM I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE NOT.
2:39:19PM IN THIS CASE, BASED ON WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE EXPERTS,
2:39:24PM THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE THE CASE, BUT I WILL DEFER TO ABBYE
2:39:30PM ON WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SIDEWALK OR
2:39:33PM NOT BECAUSE THIS WAS A PD THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
2:39:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN'T WE VOTE SEPARATELY TO WAIVE THE
2:39:41PM REQUIREMENT?
2:39:41PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TEN FEET OR SOMETHING.
2:39:43PM I UNDERSTAND IT DOESN'T CONNECT IT ALL THE WAY BUT CONNECTS
2:39:46PM OUT THE OTHER DIRECTION ONCE THE PROJECT IS DONE.
2:39:49PM YOU CAN STILL GET TO BAYSHORE.
2:39:51PM YOU'D HAVE TO GO DOWN THE ADJACENT STREET AND DOWN A LITTLE
2:39:55PM SLIP OF BAY TO BAY AND THEN ON BAYSHORE.
2:39:59PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: COUNCIL, AS THE MEMO PROVIDES, THIS IS A
2:40:03PM UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE THIS CASE CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
2:40:07PM AND IN BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING, IT WAS THE
2:40:11PM DIRECTION OF COUNCIL TO REQUIRE THIS SEGMENT OF SIDEWALK
2:40:15PM ALONG SANTIAGO.
2:40:18PM THIS IS NOT TYPICAL BECAUSE IT IS NOT ADJACENT TO THE
2:40:21PM DEVELOPER'S PROJECT AT ALL.
2:40:23PM THIS CAME OUT THROUGH THAT PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND
2:40:28PM REQUIRING THAT SIDEWALK BE INCLUDED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF
2:40:33PM SANTIAGO FROM ISABELLA TO BAYSHORE.
2:40:36PM AND THAT IS WHY RIGHT NOW ALL THE PROJECT SIDEWALKS THAT ARE
2:40:42PM RELATED TO THE ACTUAL PROJECT ARE WITHIN THE BUILDING PERMIT
2:40:47PM AND THIS PROJECT, THIS SIDEWALK SEGMENT IS UNDER A
2:40:50PM RIGHT-OF-WAY PERMIT BECAUSE IT IS SEPARATE AND APART FROM
2:40:54PM AND WAS REQUIRED BY THE REZONING ON THE PORTION OF PROPERTY
2:41:00PM THAT IS NOT CONTROLLED BY THE DEVELOPER.
2:41:05PM SO WE ARE WORKING TO FULFILL THAT REQUIREMENT AS DIRECTED BY
2:41:10PM CITY COUNCIL.
2:41:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'D LIKE TO -- I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
2:41:16PM TO CONTINUE THIS TO AUGUST 24th WITH THE INTENT OF HEARING
2:41:20PM FROM THE CITY ARBORIST ABOUT THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON THE
2:41:25PM PERVIOUS MATERIAL, HAVE A REPORT ON THAT.
2:41:28PM AND ALSO, GIVE RELATED TIME TO GET BACK TO US AS WELL FOR
2:41:33PM THEIR POSITION TO BE FAIR TO THE DEVELOPERS AS WELL.
2:41:36PM I KNOW THEY HAVE INVESTED A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY IN THIS
2:41:38PM AS WELL.
2:41:39PM IN FAIRNESS TO EVERYBODY AND AS MUCH AS I WANT TO RESOLVE
2:41:42PM THIS ISSUE TODAY, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION
2:41:44PM TODAY TO REALLY MAKE -- EITHER PULL THE TRIGGER OR PUT THE
2:41:51PM HOLSTER BACK -- PUT THE GUN BACK IN THE HOLSTER.
2:41:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL SECOND IF I ADD A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
2:42:01PM AUGUST 24th.
2:42:02PM PROPOSE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT WE ALSO HAVE LEGAL COME
2:42:05PM AND GIVE US ANY OPTIONS THEY RECOMMEND.
2:42:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ACCEPT THAT.
2:42:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
2:42:12PM CLENDENIN WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON FOR
2:42:14PM AUGUST 24th UNDER STAFF REPORTS AS STATED BY COUNCIL
2:42:17PM MEMBER CLENDENIN REGARDING THE SIDEWALK ISSUE.
2:42:20PM AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
2:42:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I DO.
2:42:24PM JUST BECAUSE THIS IS AN ISSUE WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A LOT OF
2:42:27PM PEOPLE, IF WE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE IT THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE
2:42:31PM HEAR AS A PART OF STAFF REPORTS.
2:42:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A PRETTY BUSY --
2:42:43PM WE HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENDATIONS.
2:42:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAYBE AFTER COMMENDATIONS.
2:42:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW ABOUT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT?
2:42:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
2:42:52PM THE FIRST ITEM MEANING AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:42:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
2:42:57PM TWO FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS.
2:42:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND.
2:42:59PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH THE MOTION, CARLSON WITH THE
2:43:02PM SECOND, THEN THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS FOR AUGUST 24th TO BE
2:43:05PM HEARD AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:43:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE ONE?
2:43:10PM ONE OTHER QUICK COMMENT.
2:43:12PM STAFF JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THIS.
2:43:20PM I DON'T REMEMBER -- MAYBE MY MEMORY IS BAD, BUT I DON'T
2:43:24PM REMEMBER IN THE ORIGINAL TESTIMONY THAT ANYONE TALKED ABOUT
2:43:27PM THIS PARTICULAR TREE AND HOW A SIDEWALK MIGHT HIT IT.
2:43:30PM THAT SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S COME UP SINCE PUBLIC
2:43:33PM COMMENT.
2:43:33PM IT SEEMS LIKE THE DEVELOPER IS WILLING TO WORK WITH US, SO
2:43:39PM IF WE CAN LOOK AT THE LEGAL ENGINEERING AND ARBORIST
2:43:45PM OPTIONS, HOPEFULLY WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT, AS MY
2:43:49PM COLLEAGUE SAID, IS A WIN-WIN-WIN.
2:43:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
2:43:52PM AYE.
2:43:53PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:43:53PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:43:58PM THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE.
2:43:59PM DOES THAT SATISFY COUNCIL?
2:44:02PM ALL RIGHT.
2:44:06PM WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 53, BRAD BAIRD.
2:44:09PM $29.5 MILLION.
2:44:10PM DISCUSSION ONLY.
2:44:11PM WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THE AMOUNT TODAY, CORRECT?
2:44:14PM >>BRAD BAIRD: DISCUSSION ONLY TODAY.
2:44:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
2:44:16PM >>BRAD BAIRD: GOOD AFTERNOON.
2:44:19PM BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
2:44:23PM ITEM 53 IS THE DAVID L. TIPPIN WATER TREATMENT FACILITY
2:44:29PM MASTER PLAN IMPROVEMENTS, SPECIFICALLY THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM
2:44:33PM IMPROVEMENTS.
2:44:34PM IT IS A PIPES PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF 29.5 MILLION AND
2:44:40PM CHANGE.
2:44:40PM IT IS FOR FIRST CONSIDERATION, AS CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO
2:44:45PM POINTED OUT, SINCE IT IS OVER 20 MILLION.
2:44:50PM HOWEVER, THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT THERE BE A TWO-WEEK
2:44:55PM PERIOD AT LEAST BETWEEN THE READINGS OR HEARINGS.
2:45:02PM SO AUGUST 3rd IS NOT AT LEAST TWO WEEKS AWAY, SO THAT WILL
2:45:06PM MAKE IT AUGUST 24th.
2:45:08PM SO I WOULD ASK AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION THAT THERE IS
2:45:11PM A MOTION TO TAKE IT UP AUGUST 24th FOR APPROVAL.
2:45:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
2:45:19PM JUST A MOTION TO SET IT FOR AUGUST 24th AND THEN WE VOTE
2:45:23PM THERE, CORRECT?
2:45:24PM >>BRAD BAIRD: CORRECT.
2:45:26PM I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT UP FRONT BEFORE I GO THROUGH.
2:45:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN
2:45:30PM WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:45:32PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:45:33PM >> AYE.
2:45:33PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:45:34PM THIS GMP IS FOR EARLY PURCHASE OF EQUIPMENT TO MITIGATE
2:45:42PM CONSTRUCTION DELAYS OF FUTURE TASK ORDERS.
2:45:46PM I WOULD LIKE TO USE A FORMAT THAT WAS SUGGESTED BY
2:45:51PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON IN OUR BRIEFING WITH HIM, WHICH INCLUDES
2:45:56PM FEATURES, ADVANTAGES, BENEFITS, AND THEN WHAT WE DID TO HELP
2:46:01PM MAINTAIN COSTS.
2:46:03PM I WOULD LIKE TO USE THAT SAME FORMAT FOR THE NEXT TWO ITEMS
2:46:07PM ON WASTE TO ENERGY AS WELL.
2:46:09PM SO THE FEATURES ARE NEW ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, 15 KB
2:46:16PM ELECTRICAL SWITCH GEAR, 480-VOLT TRANSFORMERS, AND
2:46:20PM ELECTRICAL -- ASSOCIATED ELECTRICAL SWITCH GEAR WITH THAT.
2:46:23PM VARIABLE FREQUENCY DRIVES, AND A DIESEL GENERATOR PACKAGE
2:46:27PM THAT INCLUDES FOUR GENERATORS, STANDBY GENERATORS, AND
2:46:32PM CONTROL PANELS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
2:46:34PM $29 MILLION GIVES YOU A LOT OF HIGH-PRICED ELECTRICAL
2:46:40PM EQUIPMENT.
2:46:40PM ADVANTAGES, INCREASED CAPACITY.
2:46:44PM THE TRANSFORMERS WILL ALLOW HIGHER LOAD CAPACITIES FOR
2:46:48PM FUTURE MASTER PLAN PROJECTS, LIKE THE HYPOCHLORITE
2:46:51PM GENERATORS WHICH REQUIRE A LOT OF ELECTRICITY, THE SUSPENDED
2:46:57PM ION EXCHANGE AND THE OXYGEN CONCENTRATORS.
2:47:00PM THOSE ARE THREE EXAMPLES.
2:47:03PM COST SAVINGS, HIGHER EFFICIENCY TRANSFORMERS AND REDUCED
2:47:08PM MAINTENANCE COSTS.
2:47:09PM MORE RESILIENT.
2:47:11PM AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE KEY ONE.
2:47:14PM THE NEW RADIAL FEED SYSTEM WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL SWITCH GEAR,
2:47:19PM WILL ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY TO ALTER ELECTRICAL FEED AND
2:47:25PM ISOLATE EQUIPMENT.
2:47:26PM I THINK YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, CHAIRMAN, ABOUT IT.
2:47:30PM IT'S REALLY AKIN TO YOUR FUSE BOX AT HOME.
2:47:34PM WHERE YOU CAN ISOLATE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
2:47:39PM WE DO NOT HAVE THAT WITH THE CURRENT LOOP SYSTEM.
2:47:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS BEFORE AND SORRY
2:47:44PM TO INTERRUPT.
2:47:45PM WE TALKED ABOUT ONE TIME WHEN EVERYTHING SHUT DOWN.
2:47:48PM REMEMBER, THERE WAS A BOIL WATER NOTICE THROUGHOUT THE CITY
2:47:51PM OF TAMPA AND THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO AVOID HAVING A TOTAL
2:47:56PM SHUTDOWN, MEANING WE CAN SHUT DOWN THE AFFECTED AREA IF WE
2:47:59PM NEED TO OR IF THAT GETS AFFECTED, LIKE A SWITCH BOARD, THE
2:48:02PM REST IS OPERATIONAL AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT CATASTROPHIC
2:48:05PM SITUATION AGAIN, CORRECT?
2:48:07PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT'S RIGHT ON AND THAT IS CORRECT.
2:48:10PM THAT HAPPENED JANUARY OF 2013, AND IT RESULTED IN A CITYWIDE
2:48:13PM BOIL WATER NOTICE.
2:48:15PM SEVERAL OF YOU REMEMBER THAT.
2:48:16PM THAT WAS ONE LONG DAY.
2:48:19PM YES, SO THIS WILL PRECLUDE THAT FROM HAPPENING.
2:48:24PM OR AT LEAST MAKE THAT LESS LIKELY, LET'S PUT IT THAT WAY.
2:48:28PM FINALLY, THE ADVANTAGE WILL BE SAFER, SWITCHING FROM THAT
2:48:33PM LOOP SYSTEM TO THE RADIAL FEED SYSTEM WILL PROVIDE A SINGLE
2:48:37PM POINT OF SHUTOFF WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ELECTRICAL
2:48:41PM BACKFEED BECAUSE THAT AGAIN IS ANOTHER THING THAT HAPPENED
2:48:44PM TEN YEARS AGO.
2:48:45PM WE HAD ELECTRICAL BACKFEED, WHICH WAS A BLUE CORONA THAT
2:48:49PM OCCURRED ON ONE OF THE FEEDS AND THAT RESULTED IN THE SWITCH
2:48:53PM GEAR CATCHING ON FIRE.
2:48:54PM VERY IMPORTANT BACKBONE PROJECT.
2:48:58PM BENEFITS, LESS POWER INTERRUPTIONS EQUAL MORE RELIABLE WATER
2:49:06PM SUPPLY.
2:49:07PM FINALLY, BENEFITS, MORE OVERSIGHT OF THE PLANT'S
2:49:12PM PERFORMANCE.
2:49:14PM WE'LL BE ABLE TO METER OUR ELECTRICAL USE FOR EACH UNIT
2:49:18PM PROCESS, THE SAME ONES I RATTLED OFF EARLIER.
2:49:21PM SIX HIGH-SERVICE PUMP STATION, HYPOCHLORITE, PUMPING WILL
2:49:30PM ALLOW US TO BETTER UNDERSTAND CAUSE AND EFFECT WHEN WE
2:49:33PM CHANGE OPERATIONS, WHERE WE CAN GET BETTER SAVINGS AT THE
2:49:35PM PLANT.
2:49:36PM AND THEN WHAT WE DID TO HELP MINIMIZE OUR COSTS, THE EARLY
2:49:41PM PROCUREMENT ITEMS THAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT WILL BE
2:49:44PM COMPETITIVELY BID.
2:49:46PM SO EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACT, WE WILL
2:49:51PM COMPETITIVELY BID THOSE ITEMS.
2:49:53PM WE WILL BE SAVING OVER 1 MILLION IN SALES TAX BY TAKING
2:49:57PM ADVANTAGE OF THE OWNER DIRECT PURCHASE PROCESS.
2:50:01PM FINALLY, THE DESIGN IS NON-VENDOR SPECIFIC, AND THIS WILL
2:50:06PM ALLOW COMPETITION TO HELP US WITH THE BEST PRICE.
2:50:10PM WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN THIS UP FOR QUESTIONS.
2:50:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
2:50:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
2:50:16PM THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION AND GOOD IDEA ON THE BENEFITS.
2:50:21PM ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT I BELIEVE IS THE BENEFIT
2:50:24PM -- YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CHLORIDE, THE CHLORINE THAT WE'LL BE
2:50:28PM ABLE TO MAKE OUR OWN CHLORINE THERE WHICH WILL NOT ONLY
2:50:32PM BENEFIT THE COST, BECAUSE WE SEE THAT COME UP A LOT IN TERMS
2:50:35PM OF THINGS WE NEED TO PURCHASE, BUT JUST ALSO GETTING IT OFF
2:50:38PM THE RAIL SYSTEM THAT COMES THROUGH THE CITY.
2:50:41PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT OUT THERE.
2:50:45PM >>BRAD BAIRD: CAN I EXPAND ON THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT?
2:50:48PM THAT'S NOT PART OF THIS PROJECT.
2:50:52PM THIS PROJECT IS ALL THE ELECTRICAL BACKGROUND.
2:50:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THE BACKGROUND FOR GETTING THAT GOING.
2:50:58PM >>BRAD BAIRD: INCLUDING THAT PROJECT.
2:50:59PM BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THE PUBLIC THAT RIGHT NOW WE
2:51:03PM TAKE IN LIQUID CHLORINE ON RAILCARS, VERY HIGH STRENGTH, AND
2:51:08PM THEN WE PUT THAT THROUGH CHLORINATORS TO TURN IT INTO GAS.
2:51:13PM IT IS VERY DANGEROUS, AND IF WE WERE TO HAVE A LEAK OR SOME
2:51:20PM KIND OF EVENT THAT RESULTED IN RELEASE OF THAT CHLORINE,
2:51:26PM WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THREE NEIGHBORHOODS THERE.
2:51:29PM AND THAT COULD RESULT IN CATASTROPHIC EVENT.
2:51:34PM SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT MAKING THAT WHOLE SYSTEM
2:51:39PM SAFER.
2:51:39PM JUST YESTERDAY, WE GOT APPROVAL FROM CSX TO REMOVE THAT
2:51:44PM TRACK.
2:51:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CONGRATULATIONS.
2:51:45PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
2:51:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAD ONE MORE THING THAT I THINK THE
2:51:48PM PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.
2:51:50PM WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM?
2:51:52PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS IS A PIPES PROJECT.
2:51:54PM SO THE WHOLE PIPES PROGRAM APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 5, 2019,
2:52:01PM AND THIS WAS A PROJECT IN THE MASTER PLAN.
2:52:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT FUNDING IS COMING THROUGH GENERAL FUND?
2:52:08PM IS IT COMING THROUGH --
2:52:10PM >>BRAD BAIRD: WATER REVENUES.
2:52:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THE REVENUE FROM THE WATER, THAT THE WATER
2:52:14PM DEPARTMENT GETS.
2:52:16PM >>BRAD BAIRD: CORRECT.
2:52:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCELLENT.
2:52:19PM THANK YOU.
2:52:20PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YOU'RE WELCOME.
2:52:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
2:52:21PM YES, SIR.
2:52:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KUDOS FOR BEING PROACTIVE ON THIS.
2:52:25PM AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S PART OF GOOD GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING
2:52:28PM INTO THE FUTURE AND LOOKING FOR THESE TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES
2:52:31PM TO IMPROVE THE SERVICES AND IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
2:52:36PM ALL ACROSS -- EVERY LINE OF CITY BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE
2:52:40PM BEEN FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND ON MAINTAINING OUR
2:52:44PM INFRASTRUCTURE AND I APPLAUD, IN FACT, THE NEXT ITEMS WILL
2:52:49PM TALK ABOUT I THINK THE SAME THING, IMPROVE OUR
2:52:51PM INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S FORWARD THINKING AND WHAT GOVERNMENT
2:52:54PM SHOULD BE DOING.
2:52:55PM I APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT.
2:52:56PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
2:52:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: ECHOING MY COLLEAGUE, EXCELLENT
2:53:01PM PRESENTATION.
2:53:02PM IF WHEN THE WATER SYSTEM GOES DOWN, WE ARE GOING TO GET MORE
2:53:09PM COMPLAINTS THAN ANYTHING.
2:53:10PM IT'S NOT SAFE AND PEOPLE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AND SOME
2:53:15PM LEVEL OF REDUNDANCY IS GOOD.
2:53:18PM MY COLLEAGUE'S QUESTION ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING
2:53:20PM FROM, THIS IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
2:53:22PM IT'S COMING FROM THAT SILO, CORRECT?
2:53:24PM BUT IN PIPES, THERE WAS ALSO BONDING.
2:53:28PM IS THIS COMING OUT OF THE BONDED MONEY OR JUST THE ONGOING
2:53:31PM REVENUES?
2:53:33PM >>BRAD BAIRD: OH, BOY, GOOD QUESTION.
2:53:35PM THE ORIGINAL PROGRAM THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2019, AT THE END
2:53:42PM OF 20 YEARS, WE WILL BE 54% OR PROJECTED TO BE 54% PAY-GO
2:53:49PM AND 46% BONDED.
2:53:51PM I SUSPECT THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR IS PART OF THE BOND ISSUE
2:53:57PM THAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FALL BECAUSE WE HAVE FRONT ENDED A
2:54:01PM LOT OF THE BONDING.
2:54:02PM SO AS YOU GET FURTHER INTO THE 20 YEARS, IT WILL BE WAY MORE
2:54:06PM PAY GO WITH CASH AND THEN UP FRONT WAY MORE BONDING.
2:54:10PM SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THE WATER AND WASTEWATER BONDS
2:54:13PM EARLY ON.
2:54:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO OTHER QUICK THINGS.
2:54:16PM THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE DESIGN NON-VENDOR SPECIFIC.
2:54:19PM THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THE PUBLIC WANTED IS TO HAVE OPEN
2:54:23PM BIDDING ON THESE PROJECTS AND THE MORE WE CAN NARROW THAT
2:54:27PM LIST OF SINGLE BIG CONTRACTS OR SOUL SOURCE WOULD BE GREAT.
2:54:30PM THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
2:54:31PM THANK YOU FOR STICKING TO THE RELATIVELY NEW RULE ABOUT
2:54:35PM BRINGING IT BACK TWICE.
2:54:36PM IT'S GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THIS.
2:54:39PM SO THANK YOU FOR ABIDING BY THAT.
2:54:41PM >>BRAD BAIRD: I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST ONE WE'VE
2:54:44PM OFFICIALLY DONE THAT.
2:54:45PM WE DID IT ON THE OTHER WASTEWATER PROJECT OUT OF COURTESY
2:54:49PM BECAUSE IT KIND OF HIT AT THE SAME TIME.
2:54:50PM THIS IS THE FIRST ONE WE OFFICIALLY DID THAT.
2:54:54PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
2:54:54PM APPRECIATE IT.
2:54:56PM >> JUSTIN VASKE, SENIOR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
2:55:00PM LITTLE CLARIFICATION, PERHAPS WE CAN HAVE COUNCIL DIRECT THE
2:55:03PM CLERK TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO THE AUGUST 24th.
2:55:07PM >> WE ALREADY DID.
2:55:08PM >> I WAS IN THE ELEVATOR.
2:55:11PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THEY ARE WAY AHEAD OF YOU.
2:55:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
2:55:22PM NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 54.
2:55:24PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THAT'S MINE AS WELL.
2:55:25PM ITEM 54, I'M GOING TO STEAL COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S PROCESS AS
2:55:34PM WELL.
2:55:34PM THIS IS MCKAY BAY WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS
2:55:39PM DESIGN-BUILD.
2:55:40PM IT IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH CHARLES
2:55:47PM PERRY PARTNERS IN THE AMOUNT OF 19.2 MILLION FOR
2:55:51PM PROFESSIONAL DESIGN SERVICES FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
2:55:55PM THIS GMP 2 WILL PROVIDE FUNDING TO MAKE PROGRESS PAYMENTS ON
2:56:01PM EQUIPMENT ORDERED THROUGH GMP 1.
2:56:04PM GMP 1 WAS LONG-LEAD ITEMS.
2:56:08PM THIS WILL MAKE THE PROGRESS PAYMENTS ON THAT EQUIPMENT.
2:56:11PM A SUBSEQUENT G MP3 WILL COME BEFORE YOU IN THE
2:56:15PM OCTOBER/NOVEMBER TIME FRAME.
2:56:20PM WITH THE TOTAL, WE'RE WORKING TO KEEP THAT TOTAL UNDER 95
2:56:24PM MILLION.
2:56:24PM THAT'S INCLUDING GMP 1 AND 2.
2:56:29PM THAT'S MY GOAL.
2:56:29PM WE'LL WORK VERY HARD TOWARD THAT END.
2:56:33PM SO THIS GMP 2 -- WELL, I'M SORRY.
2:56:39PM GMP 2, REPAIRS AND UPGRADES ASSOCIATED WITH THE WASTE TO
2:56:43PM ENERGY FACILITY ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP THE FACILITY
2:56:46PM OPERATIONAL."
2:56:47PM OF THE EQUIPMENT AND STRUCTURES AT THE FACILITY ARE IN POOR
2:56:52PM CONDITION, PRIMARILY DUE TO THE LACK OF PROPER MAINTENANCE
2:56:55PM FROM THE PREVIOUS OPERATOR.
2:56:56PM THE OVERHAUL AND REPLACEMENT OF THE EQUIPMENT WILL BRING THE
2:57:00PM FACILITY UP TO OPTIMUM OPERATIONAL LEVELS AND ENSURE THE
2:57:04PM CITY'S INVESTMENT INTO THIS INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE SAFE,
2:57:09PM EFFICIENT AND ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.
2:57:12PM METHOD OF DISPOSAL FOR OUR SOLID WASTE, I HAVE MANY PIECES
2:57:17PM OF EQUIPMENT WE'RE UPGRADING AND IMPROVING, BUT I PICKED TWO
2:57:21PM KEY ONES SO THAT WE'RE NOT UP HERE FOR HALF AN HOUR GOING
2:57:24PM THROUGH ALL OF THEM.
2:57:25PM I BELIEVE WE HAVE LIKE 11 HOURS WE'RE IMPROVING.
2:57:28PM BUT I PICKED THE TWO THAT ARE REALLY IMPORTANT.
2:57:33PM AND THE FIRST ONE, AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, IN OUR INDIVIDUAL
2:57:36PM BRIEFINGS IS THE TURBINE GENERATOR.
2:57:37PM SO FEATURES, WE'RE REWINDING THAT GENERATOR AND MAKING MAJOR
2:57:43PM REPAIRS TO THE TURBINE AND THEN WE HAVE NEWLY DESIGNED
2:57:48PM CONTROL SYSTEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT TURBINE GENERATOR.
2:57:53PM I WANT TO MAKE THE POINT HERE THAT ALL OF THIS WORK THAT
2:57:58PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE HAS TO HAPPEN IN A TEN-WEEK PERIOD.
2:58:03PM THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE WORKING 24/7 IN THAT 10-WEEK PERIOD
2:58:11PM STARTING HOPEFULLY NEXT MID-FEBRUARY.
2:58:16PM AND IT'S REALLY CRITICAL TO SCHEDULE THAT CORRECTLY, GET
2:58:19PM THAT RIGHT.
2:58:21PM CONTRACTORS WILL BE WORKING ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, SO SAFETY
2:58:25PM IS PARAMOUNT, AND WE'LL BE IN QUITE A BIT OF DISCOVERY MODE,
2:58:31PM WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT A LITTLE LATER.
2:58:33PM THE ADVANTAGES, MORE RESILIENT, EXISTING CONTROLS ARE STILL
2:58:39PM ANALOG AND BECOMING EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO REPLACE.
2:58:43PM REPAIRS WILL INCREASE EFFICIENCY OF ELECTRICAL GENERATION
2:58:46PM AND INCREASE POWER OUTPUT.
2:58:49PM RELIABLE OPERATION, REPAIRS WILL SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THE
2:58:53PM RISK OF CATASTROPHIC FAILURE AND UNANTICIPATED DOWN TIME.
2:58:57PM BENEFITS, IMPROVED EFFICIENCY WILL RESULT IN INCREASED
2:59:02PM ELECTRICAL REVENUES, WHICH THOSE HAVE BEEN ON THE RISE FOR
2:59:05PM THE LAST YEAR.
2:59:07PM AND THEN THE OTHER PRIMARY BENEFIT, NEW DIGITAL CONTROLS
2:59:12PM WILL ALLOW INTERFACING WITH OTHER CONTROL SYSTEMS AND
2:59:15PM LONG-TERM TRENDING AND TRACKING TO MONITOR PERFORMANCE AND
2:59:20PM CONDITION.
2:59:21PM OF COURSE, THIS WILL HELP WITH PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE IN
2:59:24PM PARTICULAR.
2:59:25PM THE OTHER ONE I CHOSE WAS THE ASH BUILDING, BECAUSE THE
2:59:29PM SCOPE ON THIS ONE SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED FROM THE BEGINNING.
2:59:32PM THE FEATURES, NEW STRUCTURAL STEEL, SIDING, ROOFING, NEWLY
2:59:40PM DESIGNED LED LIGHTING, QUICK CLOSE TRUCK DOORS AND FIRE
2:59:45PM PROTECTION.
2:59:46PM I WILL POINT OUT, I KNOW A FEW OF YOU HAVE TAKEN A TOUR AND
2:59:55PM SOME RECENTLY.
2:59:57PM YOU SAW THAT ASH BUILDING.
2:59:59PM IT IS IN ROUGH SHAPE.
3:00:01PM AND IT'S UNSAFE AND IT'S VERY DIMLY LIT.
3:00:06PM SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT REPLACING THAT ASH BUILDING.
3:00:12PM ADVANTAGES, MORE RESILIENT, UPGRADED CORROSION PROTECTION
3:00:16PM FOR LONGER LIFE IN THE CORROSIVE ATMOSPHERE.
3:00:19PM IT WILL BE SAFER.
3:00:22PM EXISTING BUILDING STEEL AND ROOF CORROSION WOULD NOT LIKELY
3:00:28PM SURVIVE A MAJOR HURRICANE, EVEN WITH REPAIRS.
3:00:31PM THE NEW BUILDING WILL MEET THE UPDATED HIGHER WIND LOAD
3:00:37PM HURRICANE CODES.
3:00:38PM FINALLY, BENEFITS, NEW DOOR DESIGNS WILL HELP LIMIT
3:00:42PM ENVIRONMENTAL TRACK OUT OF TRASH -- TALKING SOLID WASTE,
3:00:48PM TALKING TRASH.
3:00:48PM TREK OUT OF ASH, WHICH HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM AND
3:00:55PM CLEANUP CONCERNS.
3:00:56PM NEW FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEM WILL PROVIDE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT
3:01:00PM FOR EMPLOYEES AND NEW LED LIGHTING WILL IMPROVE VISIBILITY
3:01:05PM AND MAINTENANCE IN THE BUILDING.
3:01:06PM AND THEN JUST IN GENERAL THE THINGS WE'VE DONE TO MINIMIZE
3:01:12PM OUR COSTS, WE HAVE COMPETITIVELY BID THE EQUIPMENT PACKAGES
3:01:16PM JUST LIKE WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO ON THE WATER PROJECT.
3:01:20PM WE HAVE KEPT SPECIFICATIONS GENERAL AGAIN TO GET AS MANY
3:01:26PM QUOTES AS POSSIBLE.
3:01:28PM ONLY A FEW PIECES OF EQUIPMENT HAVE BEEN SOLE-SOURCED DUE TO
3:01:33PM THEIR CRITICALITY.
3:01:34PM WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO ALL OF THEM ON THE PROJECT BUT MOST OF
3:01:38PM THEM.
3:01:38PM AND THE STRICT SCHEDULE AND MANPOWER COORDINATION IN THAT
3:01:47PM TEN-WEEK SHUTDOWN WILL REDUCE COSTS.
3:01:51PM POSTPONING -- WE DID POSTPONE CERTAIN ELECTRICAL PROJECTS
3:01:57PM WHERE EQUIPMENT HAD VERY LONG LEAD TIMES AND WE'RE REQUIRING
3:02:02PM EXPEDITING FEES THAT WERE IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
3:02:06PM SO WE CHOSE WHICH ONES OF THOSE WE COULD DEFER AND HAVE A
3:02:11PM MUCH SMALLER OUTAGE FOR THOSE ITEMS, BUT IT SAVED QUITE A
3:02:15PM BIT OF MONEY.
3:02:16PM AND THEN WE ARE LOOKING AT SEEKING A SALES TAX EXEMPTION,
3:02:21PM LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE WATER PROJECT, FOR CERTAIN
3:02:25PM RESOURCE RECOVERY EQUIPMENT AS ALLOWED BY STATE LAW.
3:02:29PM SO WE CAN GET SOME TAX EXEMPTIONS EVEN THOUGH THE CONTRACTOR
3:02:34PM HANDLES IT.
3:02:35PM SO WE'RE LOOKING INTO THAT.
3:02:36PM EVERY PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT WILL IMPROVE RELIABILITY,
3:02:40PM EFFICIENCY, AND RESILIENCE.
3:02:42PM THIS WILL IN TURN REDUCE MAINTENANCE COST.
3:02:45PM FINALLY, FUTURE DOWNTIME WILL BE REDUCED, WHICH WILL
3:02:49PM INCREASE ELECTRICAL GENERATION AND REVENUES.
3:02:53PM WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.
3:02:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:02:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
3:03:01PM I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TODAY, WE
3:03:04PM DON'T HAVE A BACKUP TURBINE GENERATOR, RIGHT?
3:03:07PM >>BRAD BAIRD: WE DO NOT.
3:03:08PM IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TODAY, WE WOULD HAVE TO HAUL IT
3:03:11PM AWAY.
3:03:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET'S SKIP THAT, WE TALK ABOUT IT, LIABLE
3:03:15PM TO HAPPEN.
3:03:16PM WHEN WE GET THE NEW GENERATOR, ARE WE GOING TO RETROFIT THE
3:03:20PM ONE WE HAVE AND KEEP IT AS A BACKUP?
3:03:23PM >>BRAD BAIRD: IT WILL BE THE SAME ONE RETROFITTING.
3:03:26PM WE'RE REWINDING THAT SAME GENERATOR.
3:03:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STILL ONE GENERATOR?
3:03:30PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES.
3:03:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: KEEP YOUR FINGERS CROSSED.
3:03:33PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES.
3:03:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
3:03:36PM NUMBER TWO, THE ASH BUILDING, THAT IS THE BIG TALL BUILDING
3:03:39PM THAT HAS HOLES IN THE ROOF AND SIDES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
3:03:41PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES.
3:03:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YEAH, THAT NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED OR
3:03:44PM REMOVED 20 YEARS AGO, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS.
3:03:47PM WASN'T UNDER OUR CARE, CUSTODY AND CONTROL AND THAT'S WHY
3:03:52PM IT'S IN THAT CONDITION NOW.
3:03:53PM >>BRAD BAIRD: CORRECT.
3:03:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
3:04:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS TRUE ABOUT THE
3:04:02PM CONDITION OF THE EQUIPMENT AND ALL.
3:04:04PM I THINK WHERE CHARLIE WAS GOING, THE TRANSFORMER WE'RE
3:04:08PM REPLACING AND KEEPING THE OLD ONE AS A BACKUP, CORRECT?
3:04:14PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YEAH, THE DETAILS OF THAT, I HAVE MICHAEL HERE
3:04:18PM FROM ARCADIS, BUT WE WILL BE KEEPING, I BELIEVE THAT AS A
3:04:23PM BACKUP ON THE TRANSFORMER SIDE.
3:04:26PM I BELIEVE, MICHAEL, DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE MORE DETAILS ON
3:04:32PM THAT?
3:04:33PM >> MICHAEL WITH ARCADIS.
3:04:34PM WE ARE THE OUTSIDE CONSULTANT WITH THE CITY.
3:04:35PM THE TRANSFORMERS THEMSELVES, BOTH THE MAIN AND THE AXILLARY
3:04:39PM TRANSFORMER, WILL BE REPLACED.
3:04:41PM THE INTENTION RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE NEW TRANSFORMERS WILL GO
3:04:45PM IN AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME WHEN WE TAKE THE OUTAGE FOR THE
3:04:47PM OTHER ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT THAT BRAD MENTIONED IS BEING
3:04:50PM DEFERRED.
3:04:50PM TAKE THE OUTAGE AT THE SAME TIME.
3:04:52PM OLD TRANSFORMERS WILL BE SENT OFF, DETERMINED.
3:04:55PM WE'RE ASSUMING THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO REPAIRED AND PUT INTO
3:04:59PM STORAGE AS EFFECTIVE SPARE IN THE FUTURE.
3:05:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD STUFF.
3:05:03PM I AGREE IT'S DEFINITELY IMPORTANT INFRASTRUCTURE.
3:05:05PM RIGHT NOW WE'RE COMPLETELY DEPENDENT ON SOMETHING THAT
3:05:07PM DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF REDUNDANCIES.
3:05:09PM I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS AND NO
3:05:13PM REFLECTION ON YOUR PRESENTATION OR WHAT I PROJECT YOUR NEXT
3:05:16PM PRESENTATION, BUT I HAVE ANOTHER BOARD MEETING TO GO TO.
3:05:19PM I'M GOING TO EXCUSE MYSELF.
3:05:20PM YOU KNOW YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT.
3:05:22PM THANK YOU.
3:05:22PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
3:05:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU GOING TO WAIT FOR THIS VOTE AT
3:05:26PM LEAST?
3:05:26PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:05:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
3:05:29PM I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON THIS.
3:05:31PM THE TOUR IS VERY EYE OPENING.
3:05:34PM I JUST WANTED TO MENTION AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE, IF THEY
3:05:38PM HAVEN'T READ THE TAMPA BAY TIMES ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT ABOUT
3:05:42PM PINELLAS' POSSIBLE GARBAGE PROBLEMS THAT THEY ARE LOOKING
3:05:46PM AT, WE FACE VERY SIMILAR ONES.
3:05:48PM IF THIS GOES DOWN, WE'RE TRUCKING GARBAGE TO HILLSBOROUGH
3:05:51PM COUNTY IF THEY'LL EVEN TAKE IT AND PAYING THEM TO TAKE IT,
3:05:56PM AND THAT COULD BE CATASTROPHIC.
3:06:00PM NO ONE, AND MR. WASHINGTON IS IN THE AUDIENCE AND CAN VERIFY
3:06:03PM THIS -- NO ONE LIKES TO BE WITHOUT THEIR TRASH PICKUP AND
3:06:07PM THEY WILL LET HIM KNOW RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE THEY LET OUR
3:06:11PM OFFICE KNOW RIGHT AWAY.
3:06:12PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF FOLKS HAVEN'T READ THE ARTICLE THAT
3:06:15PM THEY DO AND TAKE REAL CONSIDERATION FOR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF
3:06:18PM WE LOST THIS.
3:06:19PM I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR TAKING THIS
3:06:21PM OVER.
3:06:22PM I WON'T GO TOO MUCH FURTHER INTO THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S
3:06:24PM ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE'VE DONE TO HOLD ON TO THIS PIECE
3:06:27PM OF VERY VALUABLE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CITY.
3:06:30PM YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING $95 MILLION TO RETROFIT THIS
3:06:36PM ENTIRE THING, PREFERABLY LOWER, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU NOT
3:06:42PM LOW-BALLING US AND THE PUBLIC.
3:06:45PM WE HAVE TO KNOW.
3:06:46PM BUT WHEN WE TALKED, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE COST OF LIKE A
3:06:50PM TOTAL REPLACEMENT INSTEAD OF.
3:06:53PM IF YOU COULD JUST EXPAND ON THAT FOR THE PUBLIC BECAUSE $95
3:06:57PM MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT WHAT WOULD WE BE LOOKING AT
3:07:01PM IF WE JUST FLATTENED THE WHOLE THING AND REPLACED IT?
3:07:05PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YEAH, SEVERAL THINGS.
3:07:07PM ONE, A RECENT RETROFIT OF PINELLAS COUNTY'S PLANT WAS $250
3:07:12PM MILLION.
3:07:13PM NOW, THEIR PLAN IS MORE THAN DOUBLE OURS, BUT JUST TO GIVE
3:07:18PM YOU AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE, THIS IS NOT AN INEXPENSIVE
3:07:24PM RETROFIT.
3:07:25PM I KNOW MICHAEL PROBABLY HAS OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD WEST
3:07:30PM PALM BEACH COSTS WERE FOR A BRAND-NEW FACILITY.
3:07:33PM I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE FOUR TO FIVE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR
3:07:37PM RANGE, AM I ON THAT?
3:07:41PM >> THE NEW FACILITY IN PALM BEACH WAS 3,000-TON PER DAY.
3:07:44PM ROUGHLY $700 MILLION IN 2010.
3:07:46PM TO REPLACE THIS FACILITY EVEN THOUGH IT'S SMALLER,
3:07:51PM SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE EQUIPMENT DOESN'T SIGNIFICANTLY
3:07:55PM LOWER THE PRICE EVEN THOUGH WE WOULD PROCESS THE WASTE.
3:07:59PM DON'T HOLD ME TO THIS BUT I WOULD GUESS IN THE FOUR TO FIVE
3:08:02PM HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS RANGE TO REPLACE THIS FACILITY.
3:08:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
3:08:07PM I WANTED THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY BUT
3:08:09PM REPLACING IT WOULD BE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES MORE.
3:08:13PM AND I THINK THAT IS VALUABLE BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND IT AND I
3:08:16PM WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND IT, TOO.
3:08:18PM I THINK THAT WAS IT.
3:08:20PM AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:08:23PM I'M ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
3:08:27PM I CAN'T WAIT TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND SEE THE PLANT.
3:08:30PM ALSO, MAYBE NEXT TIME YOU COME TALK ABOUT THIS, BRING A
3:08:35PM PICTURE OF THAT DISPLAY WHERE THE GENTLEMAN WORKED THE
3:08:41PM COLLECTOR OF THE GARBAGE, THEY HAVE THAT HUGE WALL THAT HAS
3:08:44PM THESE -- ALL OF THESE PUSH BUTTONS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE
3:08:48PM FROM A '60s MOVIE SET.
3:08:50PM I REALLY THINK THAT WHEN YOU'RE DONE WITH THAT, IF YOU CAN
3:08:52PM PULL THAT OUT ALL TOGETHER, YOU COULD PROBABLY SELL IT TO
3:08:58PM HOLLYWOOD FOR A SET LIKE THAT.
3:08:59PM I THINK A PHOTO OF THAT TO SHOW THE PUBLIC WHERE WE ARE
3:09:02PM RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, THAT WAS EYE OPENING TO ME.
3:09:05PM THANK YOU.
3:09:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COMING FROM AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL, THAT
3:09:09PM LOOKS LIKE MODERN TECHNOLOGY.
3:09:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DON'T TELL ME THAT.
3:09:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE ALSO, AND THIS IS
3:09:17PM INFORMATION RELATED TO ME, THAT THIS INVESTMENT WILL GIVE US
3:09:20PM 20 YEARS.
3:09:20PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES.
3:09:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT AS
3:09:24PM WELL AS FAR AS WHAT THE COST OF REPLACEMENT VERSUS WHAT
3:09:27PM WE'RE BUYING HERE.
3:09:28PM BUYING AN ADDITIONAL 20 YEARS OF USEFUL LIFE OF THE PLANT.
3:09:32PM >>BRAD BAIRD: SOME COMPONENTS MORE.
3:09:34PM SOME COMPONENTS MORE.
3:09:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE'S GOT TO GO.
3:09:37PM WE HAVE TO MOVE --
3:09:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY.
3:09:42PM THANK YOU FOR BEING A LOT MORE TRANSPARENT THAN THE ORIGINAL
3:09:45PM CONVERSATIONS WE HAD ON THIS PROJECT.
3:09:48PM JUST TO CLARIFY, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WHEN THE
3:09:51PM FEASIBILITY STUDY FROM 2018 WAS FINALLY GIVEN TO US, I THINK
3:09:55PM IT WAS 62 MILLION FOR THE FIRST FEW YEARS.
3:09:57PM IS THE NUMBER 95 MILLION?
3:09:59PM WHAT NUMBER -- YOU SAID LOWER THAN 95.
3:10:03PM I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A BALLPARK.
3:10:04PM SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 62 AND 95 FOR FIVE YEARS TO RENOVATE THIS?
3:10:12PM >>BRAD BAIRD: SO A FEW THINGS ON THAT.
3:10:14PM ONE, THAT FEASIBILITY, IT WAS DONE IN 2018.
3:10:18PM IT INCLUDED A TEN-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AS PART OF
3:10:24PM THAT, AND THE SAVINGS WAS ESTIMATED TO BE 5 MILLION A YEAR,
3:10:30PM WHICH THE PLAN WAS TO INVEST BACK INTO THE PLANT.
3:10:34PM THE PLAN IN THE BEGINNING WAS TO INVEST INTO 11 SMALLER
3:10:39PM PROJECTS, MUCH LESS PRICE THAN THIS.
3:10:43PM WE STARTED AT 15 MILLION AND IT GREW FROM THERE.
3:10:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE THING THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU ALL
3:10:52PM COULD PRESENT AT SOME POINT IS HOW THIS AFFECTS THE
3:10:55PM OPERATING COST.
3:10:56PM I DID SOME NAPKIN CALCULATIONS TALKING TO YOU ON THE PHONE A
3:11:01PM FEW MONTHS AGO, SOME OF THE COSTS ARE RECOUPED FROM SELLING
3:11:04PM TO SEMINOLE ELECTRIC, BUT THAT'S LIKE 30, 40 PERCENT OF THE
3:11:07PM COST, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
3:11:10PM THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT PUT A 10 MINUTE VIDEO
3:11:13PM TOGETHER, NOT A GOOD IDEA TO SEND TO LAND FILL, FROM A
3:11:17PM FINANCIAL POINT OF VIEW AS I DID BEHIND THE NAPKIN
3:11:21PM CALCULATION, IT IS THE SAME OR SLIGHTLY BETTER FINANCIALLY
3:11:23PM BUT ENVIRONMENTALISTS SAY THIS IS A LOT CLEANER.
3:11:26PM IF WE CAN SEE AT SOME POINT WHAT THE HIT IS, IF THE
3:11:30PM ESTIMATES OF RENOVATION ARE HIGHER, IS IT ADDING AN
3:11:34PM OPERATIONAL EXPENSE LINE ITEM?
3:11:36PM IS THAT INCREASING OUR EXPENSES?
3:11:38PM RECOUPING THAT ANY WAY?
3:11:41PM JUST SO WE KNOW WHAT IT WILL TAKE.
3:11:43PM I WAS TALKING TO CFO THE LAST FEW DAYS, IF I REMEMBER
3:11:47PM CORRECTLY, I THINK WE'LL RUN LIKE AN $11 MILLION DEFICIT
3:11:50PM THIS YEAR IN THIS AREA, WHICH MEANS WE NEED TO LOOK AT SOME
3:11:53PM KIND OF RATE INCREASE.
3:11:55PM I WAS WRONG WHEN I ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT IT BECAUSE THAT'S
3:11:57PM NOT -- THE 11 MILLION IS NOT GOING TO COME FROM GENERAL FUND
3:12:02PM BECAUSE WE HAVE A FUND BALANCE.
3:12:04PM I MIGHT NOT GET MY NUMBERS EXACTLY RIGHT, BUT I THINK 22
3:12:07PM MILLION IN THE FUND BALANCE IN THIS AREA.
3:12:09PM IN ONE YEAR WE'LL TAKE HALF THE FUND BALANCE, SO WE NEED TO
3:12:14PM BE FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO.
3:12:15PM I'M STILL HOPEFUL WE CAN AT LEAST SLIGHTLY REDUCE THE WATER
3:12:19PM RATE IF WE INCREASE THE GARBAGE RATE.
3:12:21PM IN THESE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH FUND BALANCE
3:12:26PM ANYMORE AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE OVERALL
3:12:28PM OPERATIONS ARE.
3:12:29PM MAYBE YOU ALL -- I WON'T MAKE A MOTION BUT MAYBE YOU ALL
3:12:32PM COULD COME BACK TO US, JUST SO WE AND THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND,
3:12:38PM WHERE ARE WE, PRUDENT DECISIONS AND COSTS MORE, WE NEED TO
3:12:42PM UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH MORE IT COSTS AND HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT
3:12:45PM RATES AND OTHER THINGS.
3:12:46PM THE LAST PIECE OF THAT IS THAT IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, YOU
3:12:49PM ALL SAID WE'LL RUN OUT OF CAPACITY WITHIN A COUPLE OF YEARS,
3:12:53PM NOT VERY LONG WE'LL RUN OUT OF CAPACITY.
3:12:56PM SO KNOWING THAT IT'S DIFFICULT TO PERMIT NEW SITES AND WE'RE
3:13:00PM GOING TO HAVE TO BUILD DE NOVO OR SOME KIND OF ADD-ON, I
3:13:04PM REALLY WOULD LIKE YOU ALL -- I WON'T MAKE A MOTION BUT LOVE
3:13:07PM YOU ALL TO COME TO US AND HAVE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS, OKAY,
3:13:11PM IF YOU DOUBLE YOUR CAPACITY BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF
3:13:15PM PASCO WOULD TAKE THE EXCESS CAPACITY AS WE START TO GO PAST
3:13:18PM THIS.
3:13:19PM PLUS THE COST, IF WE COULD START LOOKING AT WHAT WE COULD --
3:13:23PM HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST, WHAT IT WOULD TAKE, THE PERMITTING,
3:13:26PM THE TIMELINE.
3:13:28PM THESE PROJECTS COULD TAKE FIVE OR TEN YEARS AND WE MIGHT RUN
3:13:31PM OUT OF CAPACITY BEFORE THEN.
3:13:32PM NOT LOOKING FOR ANSWERS NOW, BUT JUST SO WE CAN THINK ABOUT
3:13:35PM THIS FROM A BUSINESS CASE.
3:13:37PM THE LAST THING IS JUST AS WE LOOK AT WHETHER IT WAS A GOOD
3:13:41PM IDEA FOR THE CITY TO TAKE THIS OVER OR NOT, WE KNOW COMPARED
3:13:44PM TO THE PRIOR VENDOR IT ABSOLUTELY WAS A GOOD IDEA.
3:13:48PM WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO COMPARE IT TO OTHERWISE, THOUGH.
3:13:50PM I HAVEN'T PRESENTED WHAT WERE THE OTHER OPTIONS.
3:13:53PM WE COULD HAVE BROUGHT SOME OTHER FIRM IN TO RUN IT OR
3:13:57PM WHATEVER, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK FROM THIS POINT
3:13:59PM FORWARD AND MAYBE WE COMPARE BEST OF CLASS AROUND THE STATE,
3:14:04PM OPERATING COSTS, RECOVERY FROM SELLING ELECTRICITY,
3:14:08PM ET CETERA, JUST TO MAKE SURE OUR NUMBERS AND RATIO ARE IN
3:14:11PM LINE BECAUSE WE KNOW ENVIRONMENTALLY, THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS
3:14:13PM ARE VERY HAPPY ABOUT THIS.
3:14:15PM THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP.
3:14:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL MOVE IT, BUT BEFORE I MOVE IT, I JUST
3:14:23PM WANT TO ANSWER COUNCILMAN CARLSON WITH WHAT ARE WE GOING TO
3:14:26PM DO WITH THE OVERFLOW.
3:14:27PM MR. WASHINGTON AND I ARE ALREADY WORKING ON WAYS TO GET
3:14:30PM PEOPLE TO THROW AWAY LESS GARBAGE.
3:14:34PM JUST GETTING PEOPLE TO THROW AWAY LESS.
3:14:37PM WE'RE WORKING ON A PLAN.
3:14:40PM MR. WASHINGTON AND HIS TEAM ARE DOING A GREAT JOB THINKING
3:14:44PM ABOUT THAT.
3:14:45PM I'LL MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
3:14:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:14:50PM IF YOU SAW HOW LITTLE TRASH I HAVE, IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
3:14:54PM MY MOTHER, I'M LIKE HOW CAN SOMEBODY BE SO WASTEFUL.
3:15:02PM >>BRAD BAIRD: WE GET THE SAME REVENUE FROM YOU EVEN WITH THE
3:15:05PM SMALL AMOUNT OF TRASH.
3:15:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
3:15:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FROM
3:15:11PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:15:12PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:15:12PM AYE.
3:15:14PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:15:17PM >> GREAT JOB.
3:15:17PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
3:15:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 53, YOURS AS WELL --
3:15:21PM >>BRAD BAIRD: ITEM 55.
3:15:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SORRY.
3:15:23PM 55.
3:15:24PM >>BRAD BAIRD: 55 IS MCKAY BAY WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY
3:15:29PM IMPROVEMENTS AGAIN.
3:15:31PM THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE INITIAL SERVICES AGREEMENT.
3:15:34PM THIS IS ADDITIONAL DESIGN.
3:15:36PM I HAD OUR TEAM WORK PRETTY HARD ON THIS BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL
3:15:44PM WRITE-UP WAS MAYBE A LITTLE LESS NEBULOUS THAN WHAT I JUST
3:15:48PM PRESENTED ON.
3:15:49PM THIS IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $4.2 MILLION, AND I'M GOING TO RUN
3:15:54PM DOWN THE FEATURES OR THE DESIGN ADDS.
3:16:00PM FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, WE
3:16:04PM BROUGHT ON EARLIER THIS YEAR IN ABOUT JANUARY A VERY
3:16:08PM EXPERIENCED POWER ENGINEERING FIRM TO SUPPLEMENT THE
3:16:12PM ORIGINAL DESIGN TEAM.
3:16:16PM THIS GROUP, THEY DO HAVE A SATELLITE OFFICE IN TEMPLE
3:16:21PM TERRACE.
3:16:22PM THEY WERE LOCAL.
3:16:24PM THEY ARE OUT OF ATLANTA.
3:16:25PM THE NAME IS INTERCON, AND THEY HAVE MADE A WORLD OF
3:16:29PM DIFFERENCE.
3:16:30PM THEY HAVE REALLY ORGANIZED THE DESIGN, HERD THE CATS, AND I
3:16:35PM CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THEM.
3:16:37PM THAT WAS A BIG PLUS.
3:16:39PM WE ARE PAYING MORE FOR THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH IT.
3:16:43PM AND THEN WE ADDED SIGNIFICANT ENGINEERING AND LOGISTICS
3:16:50PM SUPPORT FOR CONSTRUCTION.
3:16:52PM WE HAD SOME, BUT AS THIS PROJECT GREW TO 95 MILLION, WE
3:16:58PM NEEDED MUCH MORE INSPECTION BY THE ENGINEERS.
3:17:02PM WE ADDED A MINOR ITEM, A SECURITY BOOST THAT WASN'T IN THE
3:17:06PM ORIGINAL SCOPE.
3:17:07PM WE REPLACED STRUCTURAL SUPPORTS FOR THE REFUSE CRANE.
3:17:12PM I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MINUTE.
3:17:14PM REPLACED THE AUXILIARY TRANSFORMER.
3:17:16PM WE EXPANDED THE TURBINE ISLAND TO INCLUDE A 4160-VOLT
3:17:23PM ELECTRICAL ROOM.
3:17:24PM WE INTEGRATED, MODERNIZED THE CONTROLS.
3:17:27PM TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER.
3:17:28PM WE HAD DISCOVERY REPAIRS ON THE SCALPEL BUILDING STEEL, WE
3:17:34PM HAD TO DO MUCH MORE THERE THAN WE THOUGHT WE WOULD.
3:17:38PM FINALLY, THE NEW ASH BUILDING DESIGN VERSUS REPAIR OF THE
3:17:41PM EXISTING STRUCTURE.
3:17:43PM SO THOSE WERE -- WHAT IS THAT?
3:17:48PM NINE SIGNIFICANT DESIGN CHANGES BECAUSE WE'RE DOUBLING THE
3:17:53PM DESIGN COST.
3:17:55PM ADVANTAGES AND BENEFITS, INTERCON WAS BROUGHT ON BOARD TO
3:17:59PM SUPPLEMENT THE KNOWLEDGE, I JUST MENTIONED.
3:18:04PM THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN POWER AND IN WASTE TO
3:18:09PM ENERGY AND HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY ENHANCED THE DESIGN TEAM.
3:18:12PM THE ORIGINAL BUDGET ONLY INCLUDED MINIMAL ENGINEERING
3:18:17PM CONSTRUCTION SUPPORT, NEW BUDGET INCLUDES SIGNIFICANT
3:18:21PM ENGINEERING SUPPORT TO VERIFY FIELD CONDITIONS, MAKE
3:18:24PM INSTANTANEOUS CHANGES AND SUPPORT CONSTRUCTION DISCOVERY.
3:18:28PM KEEP IN MIND SINCE YOU HAVEN'T OPENED UP A LOT OF THIS
3:18:34PM EQUIPMENT, DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE DURING THIS TEN-WEEK
3:18:37PM PERIOD LIKE NOW.
3:18:38PM AND IN THAT 24/7 PERIOD.
3:18:41PM SO YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS AT NIGHT AROUND THE CLOCK.
3:18:45PM THE PERMANENT SECURITY BOOST, OF COURSE, WILL INCREASE
3:18:50PM SAFETY OF THE SITE AND THE FACILITY.
3:18:51PM THE REFUSE CRANE SUPPORT BEAMS WOULD HAVE REACHED FATIGUE AT
3:18:58PM THE END OF THEIR -- THEIR USEFUL LIFE WOULD HAVE BEEN
3:19:02PM HALFWAY THROUGH THE LIFE OF THE NEW CRANE.
3:19:04PM SO WE WOULD HAVE BEEN HALFWAY THROUGH THE LIFE OF THE NEW
3:19:07PM CRANE AND THEN NEEDED TO HAVE SUPPORTS AGAIN.
3:19:09PM SO THE NEW SUPPORTS OBVIOUSLY WILL LAST FOR DECADES.
3:19:15PM ADVANTAGES AND BENEFITS I KIND OF COMBINED ON THIS ONE.
3:19:24PM THE AUXILIARY TRANSFORMER REPLACEMENT WILL ALLOW FOR BETTER
3:19:28PM RELIABILITY OF THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, EXPANSION OF THE
3:19:32PM TURBINE ISLAND, ELECTRICAL ROOM ALLOWS FOR ADDITIONAL ROOM
3:19:37PM FOR UPGRADED SWITCH GEAR FOR NEW PUMPS, UPGRADED RELAYS FOR
3:19:41PM BETTER POWER CONTROL AND MONITORING, AND RELOCATION OF
3:19:46PM CRITICAL SWITCH GEAR AND BREAKERS OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN, SO
3:19:50PM MORE RESILIENT.
3:19:50PM INSTRUMENTATION AND CONTROL UPGRADES WILL ALLOW FOR
3:19:55PM DEDICATED TRENDING AND REAL-TIME MONITORING OF KEY
3:19:59PM COMPONENTS.
3:20:00PM OUR CAPABILITIES RIGHT NOW IN THAT AREA ARE MINIMAL.
3:20:05PM WHICH WILL REDUCE MAINTENANCE COSTS THROUGH PROACTIVE
3:20:09PM MAINTENANCE APPROACH.
3:20:10PM AND THEN THE SCALPER BUILDING REPAIRS WILL IMPROVE EMPLOYEE
3:20:16PM SAFETY AND ENSURE LONGEVITY OF THE BUILDING.
3:20:19PM FINALLY, IN BENEFITS AND ADVANTAGES, A NEW ASH BUILDING WILL
3:20:23PM INCORPORATE MATERIALS TO HELP WITH LONG-TERM CORROSION,
3:20:27PM EMPLOYEE SAFETY, AND MITIGATE STORM DAMAGE.
3:20:32PM FINALLY, WHAT WE DID TO HELP MINIMIZE OUR COST IN THE DESIGN
3:20:36PM AREA, WE FOCUSED ON -- FOCUSED ENGINEERING EFFORTS ON
3:20:42PM MATERIALS AND DESIGN CHANGES THAT WILL HELP REDUCE ONGOING
3:20:45PM OPERATING COSTS AND IMPROVE AVAILABILITY AND RELIABILITY.
3:20:49PM WE USED COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS ON EVERY ONE OF THOSE ITEMS TO
3:20:53PM ENSURE UPGRADES WILL SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE FUTURE COSTS
3:20:58PM VERSUS SHORT-TERM REPAIRS.
3:21:00PM WE BROUGHT IN OUTSIDE EXPERTISE TO HELP FLESH OUT EFFICIENCY
3:21:04PM IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE TURBINE, CONDENSATE AND CIRCULATING
3:21:09PM WATER SYSTEMS WHICH WILL INCREASE ELECTRICAL OUTPUT AND
3:21:13PM POWER REVENUES.
3:21:15PM WE REMOVED ITEMS FROM THE SCOPE THAT REQUIRE MINIMAL
3:21:19PM ENGINEERING, AND EASIER FOCUS TO THE FACILITY TO COMPLETE
3:21:23PM DURING NORMAL MAINTENANCE EFFORTS.
3:21:26PM FINALLY, WE EVALUATED EVERY OPTION TO MINIMIZE LEAD TIME
3:21:32PM IMPACTS TO THE PROJECT, INCLUDING POSTPONING SEVERAL
3:21:36PM PROJECTS TO A FUTURE OUTAGE THAT WOULD HAVE REQUIRED
3:21:40PM SIGNIFICANT FEES.
3:21:41PM I THINK I MENTIONED THAT IN THE LAST ONE, TO MEET THE
3:21:44PM SCHEDULE.
3:21:44PM AND WITH THAT, I'LL STOP AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS
3:21:47PM ON THE DESIGN AGREEMENT.
3:21:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:21:50PM CAN WE GET A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
3:21:53PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:21:56PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
3:21:56PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
3:21:59PM ALL IN FAVOR.
3:22:00PM >> AYE.
3:22:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS.
3:22:01PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
3:22:03PM WHOO-HOO.
3:22:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WAS GREAT.
3:22:05PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:22:05PM NEXT UP I BELIEVE IS MS. COLINA.
3:22:11PM 56 AND I BELIEVE 57.
3:22:17PM >> ADRI COLINA, DIRECTOR OF LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT,
3:22:21PM HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 56, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING
3:22:25PM THE SECOND CHANGE ORDER TO THE CURRENT CONTRACT WITH DPR.
3:22:30PM IT'S TO THE GMP.
3:22:32PM THIS INCREASE IS IN THE AMOUNT OF $3.6 MILLION.
3:22:36PM IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT SEVERAL TIMES, MOST
3:22:40PM RECENTLY WE CAME BEFORE YOU IN MAY FOR THE C.I.P. UPDATE.
3:22:44PM I SHARED WITH YOU I WOULD BE COMING BACK FOR $3.7 MILLION
3:22:47PM INCREASE.
3:22:48PM AND THEN, OF COURSE, OUR BRIEFINGS.
3:22:49PM IN RESPECT OF TIME, I'M JUST HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
3:22:55PM I KNOW DPR, WE HAVE BRIAN YARBOROUGH, THE PROJECT EXECUTIVE
3:22:59PM HERE WITH US, THEY HAVE DONE AN UNBELIEVABLE JOB IN
3:23:02PM MITIGATING THE COST ESCALATIONS AND HELPING US.
3:23:06PM I'M JUST ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND APPROVAL IN APPROVING
3:23:10PM THIS RESOLUTION.
3:23:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A MOTION?
3:23:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO MOVED.
3:23:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
3:23:14PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:23:16PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:23:16PM AYE.
3:23:18PM YES, MA'AM. ANY OPPOSED?
3:23:21PM MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
3:23:23PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
3:23:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 57, ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT
3:23:27PM ONE AS WELL?
3:23:27PM YES, SIR.
3:23:29PM GO AHEAD.
3:23:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
3:23:35PM THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 57, IS PRECEDING, OF COURSE, THE PART
3:23:40PM TWO TO ITEM NUMBER 56, WAS THE CHANGE ORDER THAT YOU JUST
3:23:44PM HEARD ABOUT.
3:23:45PM AGAIN, 3.7 MILLION FOR HANNA AVENUE RELOCATION, CHANGE ORDER
3:23:51PM NUMBER 2 AND APPROXIMATELY $700,000 FOR ANCILLARY COSTS
3:23:56PM ASSOCIATED WITH EQUIPPING THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE MOVING
3:23:59PM INTO HANNA AVENUE.
3:24:00PM THIS TOTAL OF 4.3 MILLION WILL BE PROVIDED VIA FUTURE BOND
3:24:06PM PROCEEDS AT SOME TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE WE'LL COME BEFORE
3:24:09PM COUNCIL AND ASK YOU TO ISSUE DEBT NOT ONLY FOR THIS, BUT FOR
3:24:12PM A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS AND THE AMOUNT TODAY WILL BE
3:24:17PM INCLUDED IN THAT REQUEST.
3:24:18PM I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
3:24:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:24:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST OF ALL, THANKS TO BRIAN IN DPR FOR ALL
3:24:28PM THE HARD WORK THEY HAVE DONE, IN PARTICULAR, TRYING TO
3:24:31PM FOLLOW SOME OF OUR NEW RULES EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T IN THE
3:24:34PM CONTRACT, LIKE WORKING WITH THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM AND
3:24:37PM MINORITY BUSINESSES AND OTHER THINGS.
3:24:38PM DENNIS, IN OUR BRIEFING YOU TALKED ABOUT THE TOTAL NUMBERS.
3:24:46PM COULD YOU JUST GO THROUGH IT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO
3:24:50PM UNDERSTAND ALL THE NUMBERS NOW?
3:24:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CERTAINLY.
3:24:55PM IF I COULD HAVE THE ELMO UP PLEASE?
3:24:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE YOU GO, SIR.
3:25:00PM GO AHEAD.
3:25:01PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
3:25:01PM I BROUGHT THIS IN ANTICIPATION OF PERHAPS SOMEONE, PERHAPS
3:25:06PM COUNCIL, PERHAPS THE PUBLIC WANTING A LARGER PICTURE OF THE
3:25:10PM HANNA AVENUE PROJECT.
3:25:11PM THIS IS FROM THE FISCAL YEAR '23 TO '27 APPROVED CAPITAL
3:25:15PM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
3:25:16PM THIS IS JUST AS IT APPEARS IN THE BOOK.
3:25:19PM I'LL NAVIGATE AROUND IT, IF I CAN.
3:25:21PM CAN YOU ALL SEE --
3:25:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN'T SEE THE RIGHT COLUMN.
3:25:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I'LL MOVE THERE IN JUST A MOMENT.
3:25:29PM CAN YOU SEE THAT WELL ENOUGH, THOUGH?
3:25:32PM OKAY.
3:25:33PM YOU SEE THE EXPENSE TYPE AT THE TOP AND THEN THE FUNDING
3:25:37PM SOURCES TOWARDS THE SECOND HALF AT THE BOTTOM.
3:25:40PM YOU CAN SEE IT'S PRIMARILY FUNDED FROM A NUMBER OF DEBT
3:25:43PM ISSUANCES.
3:25:44PM THE LARGEST ONE BEING THE C.I.P. FUND SERIES 2021.
3:25:48PM AND THEN MOVING BACK TO THE TOP, THE PRIMARY EXPENSE IS
3:25:52PM CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENT.
3:25:54PM I'LL TAKE YOU OVER TO THE RIGHT NOW.
3:25:56PM YOU SEE BOTH IN THE EXPENSES AND IN THE REVENUES WE HAVE A
3:26:01PM PROJECT COST OF 119, ALMOST $120 MILLION.
3:26:05PM THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN ANTICIPATE SEEING RIGHT NOW WHEN WE
3:26:16PM BRING YOU THE FISCAL YEAR '24 TO FISCAL YEAR '28 RECOMMENDED
3:26:21PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
3:26:22PM YOU SEE SLIGHT SHADING, SUPPOSED TO BE GREEN UP AT THE TOP
3:26:25PM THERE IS THE $119.6 MILLION THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED THAT'S IN
3:26:29PM THE BUDGET RIGHT NOW.
3:26:30PM THESE ACTIONS TODAY, AS YOU SEE, 4.4, APPROXIMATELY
3:26:34PM $4.4 MILLION WILL BRING THE TOTAL PROJECT TO APPROXIMATELY
3:26:38PM $124 MILLION.
3:26:40PM AGAIN, YOU'LL NOTE THE ASTERISK AT THE BOTTOM.
3:26:44PM WE HAVE DEBT SERVICE THAT WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT TO YOU YET, BUT
3:26:47PM WE ANTICIPATE WE WILL.
3:26:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU TALKED ABOUT GOING BACK TO 2021, BUT
3:26:55PM DOES THAT ONE, '24, INCLUDE -- JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION
3:26:59PM SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THE NUMBERS -- BUT DOES THAT INCLUDE
3:27:02PM THE ORIGINAL LAND COST?
3:27:03PM THE ORIGINAL $400,000 FEASIBILITY STUDY?
3:27:07PM THE 6.2 OR 3 DESIGN, ALL OF THAT, IT INCLUDES ALL OF THAT?
3:27:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT DOES.
3:27:14PM I CAN PUT THAT SHEET, I CAN LINGER ON IT A LITTLE LONGER.
3:27:18PM AT THE TOP, HERE IS THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT OF 6.5, LAND
3:27:21PM ACQUISITION OF A MILLION.
3:27:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT DOES NOT INCLUDE, 53 MILLION INTEREST AND
3:27:30PM THEN -- MS. COLINA SAID, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ABOUT 7.5
3:27:36PM MILLION A YEAR IN OPERATING COSTS, WAS THAT RIGHT?
3:27:38PM YES.
3:27:39PM PLUS OR MINUS.
3:27:40PM OKAY.
3:27:41PM I JUST WANTED TO GET THE NUMBERS ON THE TABLE AND MAKE SURE
3:27:44PM EVERYBODY SAW THEM.
3:27:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
3:27:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:27:46PM IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE
3:27:49PM THE RESOLUTION FOR 57?
3:27:50PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
3:27:55PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:27:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:27:56PM AYE.
3:27:59PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:28:01PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
3:28:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS, THIS ADDITIONAL
3:28:05PM MONEY WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
3:28:07PM IT WAS REQUEST OF COUNCIL TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL AMENITIES
3:28:10PM AND THINGS TO THE BUILDING.
3:28:12PM SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING NEW BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT SEVERAL
3:28:15PM TIMES, AS MS. COLINA ADVISED.
3:28:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND, YOU
3:28:23PM DON'T HAVE ANY COMPARISON TO WHAT IT WOULD COST --
3:28:27PM PROPERTIES INSTEAD OF BUILDING YOUR OWN OR DO YOU HAVE ANY
3:28:32PM INFORMATION REGARDING HOW MUCH YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE TO
3:28:34PM REPAIR OTHER THINGS?
3:28:35PM WE HAVE A LOT OF RENTALS.
3:28:38PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE OWE EVERY MONTH, BUT I IMAGINE IT
3:28:41PM WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER.
3:28:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I BELIEVE WE HAVE DONE THE ESTIMATES IN THE
3:28:46PM PAST.
3:28:46PM I DON'T HAVE THEM TODAY.
3:28:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS --
3:28:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AT THE END OF 20 OR 30 YEARS DOWN THE
3:28:53PM LINE, THIS BUILDING HERE, THE VALUE OF IT IS CERTAINLY NOT
3:28:57PM GOING TO DEPRECIATE RIGHT QUICKLY.
3:29:00PM SO YOU HAVE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT YOU'LL BE AFFORDING TO DO
3:29:04PM SOMETHING WITH, LIKE THE ONE BEHIND ON SPRUCE AND BETWEEN
3:29:11PM DALE MABRY AND WHAT IS IT, LOIS, THE PROPERTY WE HAVE THERE
3:29:15PM NOW, THE GOOD PEOPLE THAT WORK IN SOLID WASTE.
3:29:20PM YOU'LL HAVE SOME BENEFIT COMING BACK TO YOU, WHATEVER YOU
3:29:23PM WANT TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY WITH COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
3:29:25PM YOU CAN DO MANY THINGS.
3:29:27PM YOU MAY WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING.
3:29:28PM MAY WANT TO RENT SOMETHING.
3:29:30PM MAY WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MAY WANT TO SELL IT.
3:29:33PM CASH TO LOWER YOUR RATE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
3:29:35PM IT DOESN'T INCLUDE NONE OF THAT, DOES IT?
3:29:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO.
3:29:38PM THESE COSTS --
3:29:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- MINUS WHAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE, HAVEN'T
3:29:42PM DETERMINED YET WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTIES.
3:29:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION, THE COSTS
3:29:48PM WE'RE SHARING WITH YOU TODAY ARE THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH
3:29:50PM THIS BUILDING.
3:29:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC
3:29:53PM UNDERSTANDS THAT ALSO.
3:29:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
3:29:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
3:29:57PM I JUST WANTED COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO EXTEND THE CONVERSATION
3:30:01PM ABOUT WHAT WERE THE ADDITIONAL AMENITIES JUST FOR SOME
3:30:05PM BACKGROUND?
3:30:05PM THAT SHE PRESENTED, THE COMMUNITY SPACE AND THINGS LIKE
3:30:11PM THAT.
3:30:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND SOLAR PANELS.
3:30:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF.
3:30:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
3:30:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO PROBLEM.
3:30:19PM >> THE FIRST CHANGE ORDER --
3:30:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO, NO.
3:30:22PM HE JUST MENTIONED THAT THE PROJECT INCREASED BECAUSE OF SOME
3:30:26PM ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS EARLY ON, AND I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT
3:30:29PM THAT, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO EXTEND THE CONVERSATION
3:30:33PM FURTHER.
3:30:33PM THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
3:30:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ABOUT THE RENTAL EQUIVALENCY, I BROUGHT
3:30:39PM THAT UP SEVERAL TIMES.
3:30:40PM AND THE DECISION ON THIS BUILDING HAS BEEN MADE MULTIPLE
3:30:43PM TIMES.
3:30:43PM IT'S DONE.
3:30:44PM IT'S ALMOST FINISHED.
3:30:46PM WE'RE ABOUT TO MOVE IN.
3:30:47PM SO WHATEVER OBJECTIONS ANYBODY HAD IN THE PAST, THAT'S IN
3:30:50PM THE PAST.
3:30:51PM IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT RENTAL EQUIVALENCY, IF I
3:30:55PM REMEMBER CORRECTLY, PAYING ONLY 500,000 A YEAR NOW, BUT
3:30:58PM THAT'S FOR LEASES THAT ARE 20, 30 YEARS OLD AND OLD SPACE
3:31:02PM WHERE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM.
3:31:05PM SO IT'S NOT REALLY AN APPLES AND APPLES THING, EVEN IF YOU
3:31:09PM MULTIPLIED TIMES FOUR, FIVE, TWO AND A HALF, THREE MILLION,
3:31:12PM STILL CHEAPER, BUT IN THE LONG RUN, LOOK AT THE COUNTY
3:31:16PM CENTER DOWN HERE THAT THE COUNTY BOUGHT, I DON'T KNOW THAT
3:31:20PM IT HAD THIS MUCH CONTROVERSY AT THE TIME, BUT SEEMED
3:31:24PM EXPENSIVE, WHY IS COUNTY BUYING A DOWNTOWN OFFICE BUILDING.
3:31:28PM AND IN THE END I THINK IT TURNED OUT TO BE A GOOD IDEA.
3:31:32PM BUT HERE, CFO AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING IN OUR
3:31:35PM BRIEFING.
3:31:36PM AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA HAS ALSO
3:31:43PM MENTIONED.
3:31:43PM ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO PUT IN THE CALCULATION, WE DO
3:31:48PM HAVE AN ASSET.
3:31:51PM FOR RISK MANAGEMENT REASONS, WE NEED TO DO A COMMERCIAL
3:31:55PM APPRAISAL.
3:31:56PM I WON'T MAKE A MOTION BUT APPRECIATE IF THE CFO OR
3:32:00PM MS. COLINA CAN BRING THAT BACK TO US AT SOME POINT.
3:32:04PM FOR EXAMPLE, THE COUNTY CENTER DOWN HERE, SOME HIGH-TECH
3:32:08PM COMPANY CAME IN AND SAID WE WANT TO BUY HUGE AMOUNT OF
3:32:10PM MONEY, BUY ANOTHER BUILDING SOMEWHERE ELSE.
3:32:13PM THE BUILDING, AS MR. MIRANDA SAID BEFORE, THE BUILDING DOES
3:32:16PM HAVE VALUE AND WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF THE
3:32:19PM CALCULATION.
3:32:20PM IF THE WHOLE THING OVER 30 YEARS COSTS 200 OR $220 MILLION,
3:32:26PM RIGHT NOW IT'S 124, NOT INCLUDE INTEREST AND OPERATING
3:32:30PM EXPENSES.
3:32:32PM AND IF THE VALUATION IS CLOSE TO 124 THAT MEANS WE PAID A
3:32:37PM GOOD PRICE AND WE'VE GOT AN ASSET THAT'S WORTH $124 MILLION.
3:32:41PM WE DIDN'T THROW THE MONEY AWAY.
3:32:42PM WE INVESTED IN AN ASSET.
3:32:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE ORIGINAL DECISION
3:32:53PM BUT WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
3:32:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, IF YOU
3:32:58PM HAPPEN TO KNOW.
3:32:59PM HOW BIG IS THE PROPERTY?
3:33:02PM HOW MANY ACRES IS IT?
3:33:06PM >> IT'S 11 ACRES TOTAL.
3:33:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S A BIG PROPERTY.
3:33:09PM I'VE BEEN BY THERE AND GOING AGAINST NEXT WEEK.
3:33:13PM THE PROPERTY ON SPRUCE IS HOW BIG?
3:33:15PM 24 ACRES.
3:33:17PM AND THAT BEING THE LOCATION, WESTSHORE, CARVER CITY RIGHT
3:33:24PM THERE, WHAT IS -- WHAT ARE THOSE 24 ACRES WORTH?
3:33:27PM NOT SAYING TO SELL IT, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF VALUABLE REAL
3:33:32PM ESTATE IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY TO OFFSET OTHER COSTS.
3:33:35PM WHAT WE DO WITH THAT PROPERTY, WHETHER WE BUILD AFFORDABLE
3:33:37PM HOUSING, WHICH WOULD BE MY CHOICE, YOU KNOW, IN TALKING
3:33:43PM ABOUT THE 11 ACRES ON HANNA, THE BRAND-NEW BUILDING, WHAT
3:33:47PM WOULD THAT APPRAISE AT?
3:33:48PM WE DON'T KNOW.
3:33:50PM HE BRINGS UP A VALID POINT.
3:33:51PM IS IT A WORTHY INVESTMENT?
3:33:53PM $124 MILLION, WILL IT APPRAISE FOR THAT?
3:33:55PM WILL IT APPRAISE FOR MORE?
3:33:56PM THE WAY REAL ESTATE IS, WHO KNOWS.
3:33:58PM IT'S AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION TO HAVE IN THE FUTURE.
3:34:01PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:34:02PM >> IT IS.
3:34:02PM I ALSO WANT TO MENTION ON THOSE 11 ACRES, IT'S MORE THAN
3:34:05PM JUST THAT ONE BUILDING.
3:34:07PM I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND AS WELL.
3:34:09PM THERE ARE THREE BUILDINGS PLUS ADDITIONAL FUELING STATIONS
3:34:12PM AND THEN THE GREENSPACE.
3:34:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THE PARKING GARAGE.
3:34:15PM >> EXACTLY.
3:34:16PM PARKING GARAGE.
3:34:17PM THERE IS A LOT ON THAT 11 ACRES.
3:34:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ALREADY MOVED THIS RESOLUTION, RIGHT?
3:34:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO FOLLOW ON WHAT YOU SAID, ANOTHER
3:34:23PM THING WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE BRIEFING, I MADE MOTIONS TO
3:34:27PM LOOK AT THE MIDTOWN CORRIDOR AND THE ZONING AND THE HEIGHT,
3:34:31PM THE FAA LIMIT BETWEEN 275 AND KENNEDY, THE NEXT CORRIDOR
3:34:37PM WOULD BE TO GO WEST TO WESTSHORE, NOT THROUGH CARVER CITY,
3:34:47PM WHERE THAT PROPERTY IS THERE, THERE'S MOSTLY INDUSTRIAL AND
3:34:51PM THEN ON THE OTHER END, WESTSHORE, THERE ARE APARTMENTS.
3:34:54PM SO THEY ARE COMING TOGETHER THERE AND ALL THE DEVELOPERS,
3:34:57PM EVERYBODY IS LOOKING AT THAT.
3:34:58PM I THINK IF WE START, AS WE'RE TALKING TO THE PLANNING GROUP
3:35:02PM AND THE REAL ESTATE GROUP, WE NEED TO GO THROUGH AND DO SOME
3:35:06PM BIG CHUNKS OF REZONING, NOT CITYWIDE, START WITH THAT.
3:35:09PM LET'S START WITH THE BIG PLACES WHERE WE CAN BUILD DENSITY
3:35:13PM AND PEOPLE ARE NOT AGAINST IT, BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO SELL A
3:35:16PM PIECE OF PROPERTY LIKE THAT, IF WE GO AHEAD AND CHANGE THE
3:35:18PM ENTITLEMENT IN THAT CORRIDOR, THAT WILL MAKE IT WORTH A LOT
3:35:21PM MORE MONEY THAN IF WE SOLD IT NOW.
3:35:23PM BY THE WAY, THERE IS A BROWNFIELD THERE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW
3:35:27PM THE EXTENT OF IT.
3:35:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SPEAKING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
3:35:29PM ASSOCIATION, I DON'T THINK THEY WANT IT SOLD TO A DEVELOPER,
3:35:32PM SO THAT WE KEEP IT AND WE DO SOMETHING.
3:35:35PM WE DO SOMETHING BENEFICIAL TO THE COMMUNITY.
3:35:39PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:35:40PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
3:35:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE DEPUTY CHIEF AND DEPUTY CHIEF.
3:35:51PM >> CALVIN JOHNSON, DEPUTY CHIEF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE
3:35:55PM TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THE
3:35:57PM YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY.
3:35:58PM WE KNOW HOW IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP OUR YOUTH VERY MUCH
3:36:02PM ENGAGED TO KEEP THEM OUT OF TROUBLE.
3:36:04PM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE WORK WITH THEM ON A DAILY BASIS.
3:36:07PM I'M GOING TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO BECAUSE
3:36:10PM WE KNOW, KEEPING THEM BUSINESS AND WORKING WITH US WILL KEEP
3:36:14PM THEM OFF THE STREETS AND WILL KEEP THEM SAFE.
3:36:17PM THE FIRST THING THAT WE HAVE IS SHIELDING OUR TEENS.
3:36:21PM SHIELDING OUR TEENS, WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT GO THROUGH
3:36:24PM VARIOUS SCHOOLS THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THEY GET YOUTH TO
3:36:27PM WORK WITH FROM JOB TRAINING TO WEARING A SUIT AND TIE, HOW
3:36:33PM TO INTERVIEW.
3:36:34PM WE TRY AND GIVE THEM SKILLS THAT THEY NEED TO GET SUMMER
3:36:37PM EMPLOYMENT.
3:36:38PM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT BUILDS THAT FOUNDATION AND
3:36:42PM THE CONFIDENCE THEY'LL NEED THROUGHOUT THEIR LIVES.
3:36:44PM WE FEEL THAT IF WE GET THEM THE EMPLOYMENT AND GIVE THEM THE
3:36:47PM TALENT TO GET THESE JOBS, IT'S GOING TO KEEP THEM OFF THE
3:36:51PM STREET AND GIVE THEM THOSE DECISION-MAKING TOOLS THAT LAST A
3:36:54PM LIFETIME.
3:36:54PM THE SECOND ONE THAT WE HAVE IS PAL, OUR POLICE ATHLETIC
3:37:00PM LEAGUE.
3:37:00PM PART OF OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH PAL IS THROUGH PARKS AND REC.
3:37:03PM WE WORK HAND IN HAND ON SERVICING OUR YOUTH FROM ANYWHERE
3:37:08PM FROM DAY CARE.
3:37:12PM BACK IN MAY WE HAD TWO BOXING TOURNAMENTS.
3:37:14PM AND THAT WAS YOUTH FROM ALL THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
3:37:18PM AND TO SEE THE YOUTH OUT THERE NOT JUST LEARNING HOW TO BOX,
3:37:22PM BUT LEARNING HOW TO HAVE CHARACTER BEFORE AND AFTER THE
3:37:27PM MATCH, LEARNING HOW TO SHAKE HANDS AND HUG EACH OTHER
3:37:30PM KNOWING YOU JUST WENT THROUGH THAT INTENSE BOXING FOR TWO OR
3:37:34PM THREE ROUNDS.
3:37:35PM WE ALSO HAVE UP AND COMING FLORIDA YOUTH FOOTBALL CAMP.
3:37:40PM FOOTBALL SEASON IS STARTING.
3:37:41PM A LOT OF YOUTH, THEY PLAY FOOTBALL.
3:37:43PM WE WANT TO TRY AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AROUND
3:37:46PM SOME EX-NFL FOOTBALL PLAYERS AND POLICE OFFICERS AND PARKS
3:37:50PM AND REC PERSONNEL TO HELP GUIDE THEM IN LEARNING DIFFERENT
3:37:54PM THINGS REGARDING FOOTBALL.
3:37:57PM STAYING ON FOOTBALL, ONE THING THAT WE PARTNERED WITH AND WE
3:38:00PM HAD A BUNCH OF MEETINGS FOR THE PAST I WOULD SAY SIX MONTHS
3:38:04PM IS TRYING TO GET THE KIDS TO PLAY ON HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL
3:38:08PM FIELDS.
3:38:09PM SO WE WORK WITH PARKS AND REC AND WE MET WITH HILLSBOROUGH
3:38:12PM COUNTY SCHOOLS AND THEY HAVE ALLOWED US TO PLAY OUR GAMES ON
3:38:16PM SOME OF THE HIGH SCHOOL FIELDS LIKE JEFFERSON, MIDDLETON,
3:38:20PM HILLSBOROUGH, AND BLAKE.
3:38:21PM SO THAT IS GOOD FOR OUR FOOTBALL TEAMS.
3:38:24PM SOME OF THOSE FIELDS ARE TURF AND THEY ARE VERY GOOD FOR OUR
3:38:27PM FAMILIES AND THE KIDS TO PLAY THERE.
3:38:31PM IT GIVES THEM THAT PRIDE IN HAVING GOOD FIELDS AND AN AREA
3:38:35PM TO WHERE THEY ARE SAFE.
3:38:36PM WE HAVE A TPD YOUTH TEEN ACADEMY.
3:38:41PM WE JUST HAD IT LAST WEEK.
3:38:44PM I'M TELLING YOU THAT PROGRAM IS OUTSTANDING.
3:38:47PM WHEN I GO THERE THE FIRST DAY AND THE OFFICERS THAT WE HAVE,
3:38:51PM THEY DO A TREMENDOUS JOB WITH THE YOUTH.
3:38:54PM YOU SEE THE YOUTH THE FIRST DAY.
3:38:57PM WHETHER THE PARENTS MADE THEM GO, NO MATTER WHAT IT WAS,
3:39:00PM THEY GET THERE AND YOU SEE A FROWN ON THEIR FACE AND YOU
3:39:05PM TALK TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW THEY WILL LEARN A WHOLE LOT
3:39:08PM ABOUT WHAT POLICE WORK IS AND WHAT WE DO AND HAVE GREAT
3:39:11PM CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT WE DO AT HOME AS POLICE OFFICERS.
3:39:15PM THIS MIGHT BE OUR JOB UP THIS NOT WHO WE ARE AS INDIVIDUALS.
3:39:20PM SO THAT FIRST DAY I WATCHED THE KIDS AND WE GOT THE PHYSICAL
3:39:23PM FITNESS TEST.
3:39:25PM THAT IS THE FIRST THING THEY DID TO START THE DAY OFF AFTER
3:39:27PM THE INTRODUCTIONS.
3:39:30PM AND IN THE INTRODUCTIONS AND THEY ARE VERY QUIET.
3:39:33PM THEY ARE NOT TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
3:39:35PM THEY DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER.
3:39:36PM AS SOON AS THEY GET TO THE PHYSICAL FITNESS TEST AND WE PUT
3:39:40PM THEM ON TEAMS, THEIR DEMEANOR CHANGES INSTANTLY.
3:39:44PM THEY START STRATEGIZING, TALKING TO EACH OTHER.
3:39:48PM THEY ARE TRYING TO BEAT THE OTHER TEAM'S TIME WITH THE TEST.
3:39:53PM YOU SEE THAT PARTNERSHIP BUILDING, NO MATTER WHAT SCHOOL
3:39:55PM FROM, ROBINSON, BLAKE, MIDDLETON, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT
3:39:58PM THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM TO HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP.
3:40:02PM AT THE END OF THE ACADEMY, THEY MEET WITH THE TAMPA POLICE
3:40:04PM DEPARTMENT STAFF.
3:40:06PM WE GIVE THEM iPADS OR STUFF THEY CAN USE THROUGHOUT THE
3:40:13PM SCHOOL YEAR.
3:40:14PM SO THAT IS A VERY GOOD PROGRAM FOR OUR YOUTH AND WE'RE VERY
3:40:17PM PROUD THAT WE HAVE THAT EVERY YEAR.
3:40:20PM THE SECOND PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE THAT I THINK HISTORICALLY
3:40:24PM HAS BEEN A STAPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THAT IS THE RICH
3:40:28PM HOUSE PROGRAMS.
3:40:28PM WE HAVE ONE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AND ONE BY ROBLES PARK.
3:40:33PM WHEN YOU GO THERE AND YOU SEE THE KIDS IN THOSE AREAS WHERE
3:40:36PM THERE'S HIGH VIOLENCE AND YOU SEE THEM HAVING A SAFE HAVEN
3:40:40PM TO GO AFTER SCHOOL AND DURING THE SUMMER TIME, AND THEY ARE
3:40:45PM DEALING WITH POLICE OFFICERS AND DEALING WITH HOMEWORK AND
3:40:49PM LEARNING THINGS THEY WOULDN'T LEARN IF IT WASN'T FOR THE
3:40:52PM RICH HOUSES.
3:40:52PM A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WE SIGNED THEM UP TO GO WITH THE
3:40:56PM BUFFALO SOLDIERS WHO ARE IN TOWN TO GO TO BUSCH GARDENS.
3:41:00PM THEY HAVE SO MUCH FUN DOING THESE THINGS AND ALSO AN
3:41:04PM EDUCATION ON HOW THEY CAN TREAT EACH OTHER IN THAT
3:41:07PM PARTNERSHIP.
3:41:08PM WE HAVE A LOT OF OFFICERS THAT HAVE A HEART FOR THE
3:41:14PM COMMUNITY AND OUR YOUTH.
3:41:17PM AND THEY ENJOY GIVING SUMMER SAFETY PRESENTATIONS TO OUR
3:41:21PM YOUTH.
3:41:22PM THEY REALLY EMBRACE IT.
3:41:24PM IT'S TIME TO BUILD THAT PARTNERSHIP.
3:41:27PM SOMETIMES THEIR OWN PERSONAL TIME THEY COME IN AND DEAL WITH
3:41:31PM THE YOUTH.
3:41:32PM THAT'S WHAT WE LOVE TO SEE AS AN ORGANIZATION, FOLKS DOING
3:41:34PM THINGS FROM THE HEART.
3:41:36PM WE HAVE SHOP WITH A COP.
3:41:39PM AND LIKE WHEN SCHOOL WAS STARTING UP AGAIN, SOME FAMILIES
3:41:42PM STRUGGLE.
3:41:43PM WE HAVE ATMOSPHERE THAT TAKE IT -- WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT
3:41:48PM TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO START THE PROGRAM UP, RAISE FUNDS
3:41:51PM SO YOUTH HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THE MALL AND GO SHOPPING FOR
3:41:55PM SCHOOL CLOTHES.
3:41:56PM WHEN THEY DO THAT, YOU SHOULD SEE HOW THE OFFICERS FEEL AND
3:41:59PM THE YOUTH FEEL WALKING WITH EACH OTHER THROUGHOUT THE MALL
3:42:03PM BUYING THINGS.
3:42:04PM IT JUST REALLY STRENGTHENS THAT PARTNERSHIP AND LETS THEM
3:42:09PM KNOW THROUGH THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE SEE THEM.
3:42:11PM WE KNOW IT IS TOUGH ON THEM.
3:42:12PM WE KNOW WE ASKED THEM TO DO A WHOLE LOT BEING AMBASSADORS,
3:42:17PM STAY OUT OF TROUBLE BUT ALSO LET THEM KNOW WE KNOW THERE IS
3:42:20PM A STRUGGLE OUT THERE.
3:42:21PM AND WE TRY AND DO OUR BEST TO PARTNER WITH THEM AND THEIR
3:42:24PM FAMILIES TO HELP THEM OUT.
3:42:25PM WE HAD A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO A FISHING CLINIC.
3:42:30PM WE HAD SPONSORED BY THE FOUNDATION AND SPONSORED 100
3:42:36PM CHILDREN TO GO ON A FISHING TRIP.
3:42:38PM I'M NOT GOOD AT FISHING.
3:42:41PM MAJOR DiFELICE IS EXCELLENT AT FISHING.
3:42:44PM THEY HAD AN OUTSTANDING JOB.
3:42:45PM ON THE BOAT OUT THERE, THE THINGS YOU LEARN, AGAIN, THE
3:42:49PM PARTNERSHIP, THE TRUST, THE CONVERSATIONS.
3:42:52PM YOU CAN'T REPLACE THOSE THINGS IN OUR KID'S LIFE.
3:42:56PM SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, THOSE ARE LIKE TPD PROGRAMS THAT
3:43:00PM WE HAVE.
3:43:00PM WE ALSO PARTNER WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND WHAT THEY HAVE
3:43:05PM GOING ON FOR THE YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE
3:43:07PM UNDERSTAND AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING
3:43:11PM AND IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO SHOW A PARTNERSHIP.
3:43:13PM SOME OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE PACE CLEAR FOR GIRLS.
3:43:17PM WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD.
3:43:18PM I USED TO BE ON THE BOARD.
3:43:20PM AND WE GO THERE AND WE INTERACT WITH THE STUDENTS AND WE LET
3:43:26PM THEM KNOW THAT YOU MAY BE GOING THROUGH STRUGGLES, BUT IT'S
3:43:30PM NOT THE END.
3:43:31PM ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, WE'RE THERE FOR YOU AS THE
3:43:34PM POLICE DEPARTMENT.
3:43:34PM WE ALSO HAVE AMI KIDS.
3:43:37PM WE MEET WITH THEM ON A WEEKLY BASIS AND WE TALK WITH THE
3:43:41PM YOUTH.
3:43:42PM AGAIN, WE GUIDE THEM AND TRY AND LET THEM KNOW, YEAH, THEY
3:43:45PM MAY HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW BUT IT IS
3:43:48PM NOT THE END-ALL.
3:43:49PM YOU CAN ALWAYS TURN YOUR LIFE AROUND.
3:43:51PM ONE OF THE ONES THAT I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR A LONG TIME
3:43:57PM AND HE IS A STAPLE IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA IS DERRICK BROOKS
3:44:02PM CHARITIES.
3:44:03PM OUR OFFICERS HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THAT ORGANIZATION.
3:44:07PM MYSELF, MAJOR DiFELICE, OTHER OFFICERS, WE HAVE PHONE
3:44:13PM CALLS EVERY MONTH.
3:44:14PM IT'S NOT JUST TAMPA POLICE AT TIMES.
3:44:17PM IT IS THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
3:44:18PM IT IS THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
3:44:20PM IT IS THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.
3:44:22PM IT'S PARKS AND REC.
3:44:23PM WE ALL PARTNER TO GIVE OUR YOUTH THAT FOUNDATION THEY ARE
3:44:26PM GOING TO NEED AND THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
3:44:31PM THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO FOR THE YOUTH,
3:44:34PM UNDERSTANDING THAT LIFE IS A CHALLENGE, BUT ONE THING THAT
3:44:38PM WE ALL NEED GOING THROUGHOUT LIFE IS A GOOD FOUNDATION.
3:44:44PM EVERYTHING THAT US AS ADULTS THAT WE REACH THROUGHOUT OUR
3:44:48PM CAREERS STARTED WITH A GOOD FOUNDATION.
3:44:50PM AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GIVE OUR YOUTH IN THE CITY OF
3:44:54PM TAMPA A GOOD FOUNDATION SO WHEN THEY BECOME ADULTS THEY ARE
3:44:58PM SUCCESSFUL.
3:44:59PM THEY ARE STAYING IN TAMPA.
3:45:00PM THEY ARE GETTING JOBS IN TAMPA, AND IT'S HELPING US KEEP THE
3:45:03PM STREETS SAFE.
3:45:04PM ANY QUESTIONS?
3:45:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:45:08PM WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
3:45:10PM I'M GLAD THAT YOU SHOWCASED EVERYTHING THAT TPD DOES WITH
3:45:14PM OUR YOUTH IN OUR COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
3:45:18PM BECAUSE I'VE BROUGHT UP, ESPECIALLY DURING THE LAST
3:45:22PM CAMPAIGN, COMMUNITY POLICING, AND THIS IS PART OF IT.
3:45:26PM YOU'RE STARTING YOUNG.
3:45:28PM YOU'RE STARTING -- YOU KNOW, YOU'RE REACHING OUT TO ALL
3:45:33PM LAYERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND BUILDING THAT FOUNDATION AS
3:45:35PM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING THOSE RELATIONSHIPS.
3:45:37PM I REMEMBER SOMEBODY ASKED ME PROBABLY 2016, WHO WAS MY
3:45:42PM MENTOR.
3:45:43PM AND I SAID, I DON'T KNOW.
3:45:45PM I KNOW PEOPLE.
3:45:47PM KNOWN PEOPLE THROUGHOUT MY LIFE THAT HAVE GIVEN ME ADVICE
3:45:50PM AND WHATNOT.
3:45:51PM I DON'T HAVE THAT SINGLE PERSON.
3:45:54PM BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE WITH TPD, THROUGH PAL, THROUGH
3:45:57PM THE RICH HOUSE, THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT YOU MENTIONED,
3:46:02PM YOU'RE GIVING THOSE MENTORS TO THOSE YOUNG INDIVIDUALS THAT
3:46:05PM CAN HELP THEM, WHATEVER THEY NEED.
3:46:08PM WHETHER IT'S ADVICE.
3:46:09PM WHETHER IT'S LEARNING.
3:46:10PM YOU TALK ABOUT PLAYING SPORTS AND BEING A GOOD TEAM PLAYER,
3:46:17PM TALKING ABOUT COMMUNICATION AND STUFF.
3:46:20PM I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN YOU BUILD THIS FOUNDATION AND
3:46:23PM WHEN YOU START YOUNG AND START WITH THE YOUTH, THAT MAY NOT
3:46:26PM HAVE THAT MENTOR, MAY NOT HAVE THAT INDIVIDUAL, I THINK THEY
3:46:30PM GROW UP TO BE BETTER PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY LEARN AT A YOUNG
3:46:33PM AGE THE IMPORTANT THINGS IN LIFE.
3:46:35PM LIKE YOU SAID, LIFE ISN'T EASY.
3:46:37PM THERE ARE GOING TO BE CHALLENGES BUT YOU'RE SHOWING THAT
3:46:39PM THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WILL EXTEND A HELPING HAND
3:46:42PM TO HELP LIFT YOU UP.
3:46:44PM IT'S NOT A HANDOUT.
3:46:45PM IT'S A HAND UP.
3:46:46PM AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
3:46:47PM IT'S A CRAZY WORLD.
3:46:51PM YOU READ THE NEWS.
3:46:52PM YOU ARE A POLICE OFFICER.
3:46:53PM YOU SEE WHAT GOES ON FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE BUT AT THE
3:46:56PM SAME TIME YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING.
3:46:58PM YOU'RE DOING A LOT TO HELP COMBAT THAT AND TRY TO CREATE A
3:47:03PM MORE POSITIVE WORLD, A MORE POSITIVE LIFE.
3:47:05PM THINK ABOUT HOW MANY LIVES YOU'RE CHANGING ONE ON ONE, EACH
3:47:09PM INDIVIDUAL.
3:47:10PM IT MIGHT BE, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE BUFFALO SOLDIERS TOOK THEM
3:47:14PM TO BUSCH GARDENS.
3:47:16PM GREAT AFTERNOON IN THE THEME PARK, BUT THAT COULD BE LIFE
3:47:18PM CHANGING WHATEVER IT IS.
3:47:20PM THAT COULD BE A PIVOTAL MOMENT AND MEMORY THAT STAYS WITH
3:47:23PM THEM ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU DO.
3:47:25PM I THINK THAT'S SO IMPORTANT.
3:47:26PM THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT BECAUSE I LEARNED THINGS TODAY
3:47:31PM THAT I DIDN'T KNOW.
3:47:32PM I KNOW ABOUT PAL AND SOME OF THE OTHER PROGRAMS BUT IT
3:47:35PM EXTENDS FURTHER THAN THAT.
3:47:36PM SO WE APPRECIATE YOU.
3:47:38PM YES, MA'AM.
3:47:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
3:47:40PM AND THE REASON I MADE THIS MOTION WAS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN
3:47:43PM HAVING SOME GUN VIOLENCE ISSUES KIND OF BACK TO BACK TO
3:47:46PM BACK.
3:47:47PM JUST REALLY WANTED TO, AGAIN, REITERATE FOR THE PUBLIC THE
3:47:53PM TYPES OF PROGRAMS WE HAVE AND TO JUST REMIND US OF WHAT
3:47:57PM WE'RE DOING.
3:48:00PM AND THIS IS A COMPLETELY RANDOM BALLPARK, BUT HOW MANY YOUTH
3:48:03PM DO YOU THINK THAT THESE PROGRAMS TOUCH OVER A YEAR?
3:48:07PM >> OVER A YEAR, I WOULD SAY MAYBE A THOUSAND.
3:48:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
3:48:12PM THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER.
3:48:13PM I ALSO JUST WANTED TO SAY, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S
3:48:18PM ONLY SO MANY PEOPLE AND SO MANY THINGS AND BUDGETS, BUT IF
3:48:22PM YOU'RE IN A SPOT TO SCALE UP ANY OF THESE PROJECTS THAT YOU
3:48:25PM WANT TO DO, I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WOULD HAVE ANY PROBLEM
3:48:28PM WITH FUNDING, WITH ANY OF THAT.
3:48:31PM SO IF THERE'S ANY SPOTS THAT YOU'RE THINKING, OKAY, WE
3:48:35PM WORKED ON THIS AND NOW WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS, PLEASE
3:48:37PM DON'T HESITATE TO COME BACK TO US AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE
3:48:41PM WANT TO DO THIS.
3:48:42PM I THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US HERE WOULD GREATLY SUPPORT
3:48:46PM ANY TYPE OF SCALEUP YOU'D LIKE TO DO WITH THIS, ANY TYPE OF
3:48:50PM MAKING.
3:48:50PM I KNOW THAT THE STAY AND PLAY PROGRAM IS SOMETHING THAT IS A
3:48:55PM HUGE SUMMER ISSUE OR SUMMER BENEFIT.
3:48:58PM AND PAL I BELIEVE LAST YEAR STARTED COMING BACK TO WORK WITH
3:49:02PM THAT.
3:49:03PM SO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT THIS YEAR YOU PROBABLY HAD MORE
3:49:06PM OFFICERS INVOLVED.
3:49:07PM >> YES, YES.
3:49:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR NEXT YEAR, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU GET
3:49:13PM IT EVEN FURTHER?
3:49:14PM IS IT SOMETHING MORE FROM THE PARKS AND REC BUDGET?
3:49:18PM PLEASE LET US KNOW IN PREPARATION FOR NEXT SUMMER THE TYPES
3:49:21PM OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP EXPAND THE PROGRAM WITHIN
3:49:27PM REASON AND WITHIN YOUR CAPABILITIES AND THE STAFF
3:49:33PM CAPABILITIES AND VOLUNTEER CAPABILITIES.
3:49:37PM I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR ALL OF US WHEN I SAY WE'RE HAPPY TO
3:49:40PM HELP IN ANY REGARD TO JUST EXTEND THE PROGRAMS AND MAKE THEM
3:49:43PM MORE ACCESSIBLE BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS REALLY HELPING
3:49:47PM KEEP KIDS OFF THE STREET AND DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
3:49:51PM >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.
3:49:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
3:49:53PM THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LOT SINCE I WAS A LITTLE KID, BUT SO
3:49:57PM HAS THE WORLD.
3:49:58PM AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT.
3:50:00PM LISTEN, WHEN WE USED TO GO SEE A MOVIE, DURANGO KID, HOP
3:50:04PM ALONG CASSIDY.
3:50:06PM ROY ROGERS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
3:50:09PM NOBODY DIED.
3:50:10PM THEY SHOT THEM BUT YOU DIDN'T SEE NO BLOOD.
3:50:13PM NOW FROM THE DAY YOU WAKE UP TILL THE DAY YOU ARE 15 YOU'VE
3:50:16PM SEEN 10 MILLION PEOPLE GET KILLED ON TV, IN THE MOVIES AND
3:50:19PM THE INTERNET WITH GREAT INFORMATION, TRUE OR FALSE.
3:50:23PM EVERYBODY BELIEVES ALL THAT.
3:50:24PM THEY THINK THAT IS A COMMON THING.
3:50:29PM WHAT YOU'RE DOING NOW, CUSCADEN PARK, NOTHING BUT A COUPLE
3:50:33PM OF BASEBALLS, BROKEN BATS, STICK AND THAT WAS ABOUT IT.
3:50:37PM WE HAD INDIVIDUALS THAT CAME TO THE PARK AND TALKED TO US
3:50:41PM ABOUT BASEBALL AND ABOUT LIFE.
3:50:43PM THE COACH THAT WE HAD THERE WAS DIFFERENT.
3:50:45PM FIRST OF ALL, THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT DIDN'T JUST HAVE
3:50:48PM BASEBALL, SOFTBALL, GIRLS BASKETBALL, WHATEVER THEY HAD.
3:50:52PM THEY HAD A PARK DIRECTOR FOR THE BOYS AND PARK DIRECTOR FOR
3:50:55PM THE GIRLS AND THAT WAS IT.
3:50:56PM SO 300 KIDS.
3:50:59PM IT WAS 150 BOYS.
3:51:03PM AND TWO INDIVIDUALS TOOK CARE OF US.
3:51:07PM YOU CAN'T DO THAT TODAY BECAUSE TOO MANY THINGS, IDEAS GOING
3:51:10PM INTO THESE KIDS' MINDS WHEN THEY ARE WATCHING SOMETHING THAT
3:51:13PM IS NOT GOOD.
3:51:15PM SO WHEN YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH, SAY WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT OLD
3:51:18PM GUY?
3:51:18PM IT AIN'T THE OLD GUY.
3:51:20PM OLD GUY LIVED THROUGH LIFE.
3:51:22PM AND YOU CAN'T CURE ALL THE ILLS BUT YOU CAN GET 99% OF THE
3:51:27PM ILLS IF YOU CATCH THEM AT A YOUNG AGE.
3:51:31PM NOT HANG AROUND WITH OLDER INDIVIDUALS, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT
3:51:34PM YEARS OLDER BECAUSE THEY START TO EMULATE THOSE THAT ARE NOT
3:51:38PM WELL-RESPECTED.
3:51:39PM AND IF THE INDIVIDUAL SAY LOOK MAKING MONEY DOING THIS, OH,
3:51:44PM I'VE GOT TO MAKE MONEY, TOO.
3:51:45PM THOSE ARE THE THINGS, INDIVIDUALS, MEN AND WOMEN OF THE
3:51:50PM POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHERS THAT ARE DOING THESE THINGS
3:51:53PM WHEN YOU START TO MENTOR KIDS, YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM A RAY
3:51:57PM OF HOPE THAT THEY CAN ALSO AT ONE TIME BUY A CAR, SOMETHING
3:52:02PM THEY MAY NOT HAVE.
3:52:04PM NEW PAIR OF SHOES.
3:52:06PM INDIVIDUAL LITTLE THINGS THAT MAKE THE BIG THINGS HAPPEN.
3:52:10PM TODAY'S SOCIETY IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM WHEN YOU AND I GREW
3:52:15PM UP.
3:52:15PM THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S NOT GETTING ANY BETTER.
3:52:18PM EVERY CITY IN AMERICA HAS A GUN VIOLENCE PROBLEM.
3:52:24PM AND EVERY YEAR WE TOP THE PROBLEM BY MORE AND MORE.
3:52:28PM SO IT'S NOT GETTING ANY EASIER FOR KIDS TO BECOME ADULTS.
3:52:33PM GETTING DIFFICULT.
3:52:33PM THEY ARE NOT MENTORED ENOUGH WHEN THEY COME HOME, SCHOOL,
3:52:40PM EDUCATION, NOT GIVEN A ROUTE TO FOLLOW.
3:52:42PM THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT CREATE IN MY OPINION ONLY, WHEN
3:52:48PM THEY CAN SEE IN FRONT OF THEM IS FAILURE.
3:52:51PM WHEN ALL YOU SEE AROUND YOU IS FAILURE, YOU, YOURSELF, NO
3:52:55PM MATTER HOW WELL PRESENTED AND HOW WELL THINK, MORE THAN
3:52:58PM LIKELY WOULD HAVE FAILURE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
3:53:01PM ONCE YOU'RE IN JAIL AND ONCE YOU COME OUT, WHERE ARE YOU
3:53:05PM GOING?
3:53:06PM RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
3:53:09PM WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING BACK TO?
3:53:11PM JAIL.
3:53:12PM I DON'T HAVE STATISTICS BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THAT OUT OF
3:53:15PM HUNDRED PERCENT THAT COME OUT OF JAIL AT 16, 17, 18,
3:53:18PM WHATEVER, 45 OR 50 PERCENT END UP RIGHT WHERE THEY CAME BACK
3:53:22PM FROM AND THAT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM.
3:53:23PM BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY TO HAVE HOPE.
3:53:27PM HAVE TO HAVE LIKE PAL AND THESE OTHER OPERATIONS, WHERE YOU
3:53:31PM TEACH THEM NOT ONLY ABOUT SPORTS, BUT THE SPORTS IS A WAY OF
3:53:35PM LIFE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO WIN SOME GAMES AND YOU'RE GOING
3:53:38PM TO LOSE SOME GAMES.
3:53:39PM THEY CAN RELATE THAT TO LIFE, AVENUE OF SUCCESS IS MUCH,
3:53:45PM MUCH HIGHER THAN SOMEONE WHO SAYS ALL I SEE AROUND ME IS
3:53:48PM FAILURE.
3:53:49PM FATHER DOESN'T HAVE A JOB, LAID OFF, MOTHER TRYING TO FIND
3:53:52PM -- AND ALL YOU SEE IS THE HARDSHIP THAT THEY ARE GOING
3:53:55PM THROUGH.
3:53:56PM THEREFORE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT INSPIRATION TO SAY, WHAT
3:53:59PM ABOUT ME?
3:54:00PM AND WHEN YOU GIVE THE FOLKS A LITTLE INSPIRATION AND A
3:54:05PM LITTLE HOPE AND THEY PROGRESS IN WHATEVER SPORT THEY ARE IN,
3:54:09PM THEY BECOME WHAT?
3:54:11PM MORE SELF CONFIDENT THAT THEY CAN DO A LOT MORE THEY ARE
3:54:16PM CAPABLE OF DOING.
3:54:17PM THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL ABOUT.
3:54:18PM I BELIEVE THE RECREATION AND MENTORING AND MAYBE EVEN HAVING
3:54:24PM SOME OPERATION WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM WHERE YOU HAVE A
3:54:27PM TEACHER THAT COMES BY ONCE A WEEK, LET THEM TALK TO THE
3:54:33PM TEACHER, SEE WHAT THE TEACHER CAN TEACH ON A ONE-ON-ONE
3:54:36PM BASIS.
3:54:36PM THAT'S HOW IN MY OPINION YOU HAVE THE RESULTS THAT ARE
3:54:39PM NEEDED BECAUSE SOCIETY IS HEADING IN THE WRONG, WRONG
3:54:42PM DIRECTION.
3:54:42PM CRIME IS HOT AND THE WEATHER IS GETTING HOTTER.
3:54:46PM WE'VE BROKEN ALL RECORDS NOW.
3:54:48PM WATER TEMPERATURE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND WHEN YOU HAVE
3:54:52PM ALL THAT HEAT, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR CRIME.
3:54:55PM BUT I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION, ALL OF THEM
3:54:59PM FOR WHAT THEY DO VOLUNTARILY TO MAKE SURE SOMEBODY HAS AN
3:55:03PM OPPORTUNITY THAT MAY NEVER HAVE GOTTEN IF IT WASN'T FOR YOU
3:55:05PM ALL.
3:55:06PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:55:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON --
3:55:09PM >> TWO THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT YOU DIDN'T REALLY
3:55:12PM SEE IN HERE.
3:55:13PM WE HAVE A LAUNDRY PROJECT.
3:55:15PM WE KNOW IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE KIDS.
3:55:17PM WE KNOW PARENTS ARE ALSO STRUGGLING.
3:55:19PM EVERY DISTRICT THEY HAVE A LAUNDRY PROJECT.
3:55:23PM GO TO A LAUNDROMAT THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
3:55:25PM OFFICERS THERE, WHEN THE PARENTS COME WITH CLOTHES AND STUFF
3:55:28PM AND THEIR KIDS, WE HELP THEM WASH THEIR CLOTHES.
3:55:31PM WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO SEE THEM AND
3:55:37PM THAT STRUGGLE IS REAL OUT THERE.
3:55:39PM THE SECOND HIGHLIGHT IS WE HAD A YOUNG FAMILY WHO WENT
3:55:43PM THROUGH STRUGGLES AND THE TV SET GOT BROKEN AND STUFF AND
3:55:47PM THEY HAD NOTHING FOR THE YOUTH.
3:55:49PM THE OFFICERS GOT TOGETHER, RAISED FUNDS TO BUY A NEW TV SET
3:55:53PM FOR THE FAMILY.
3:55:55PM IT MAY SEEM SMALL TO US, BUT IT GAVE THEM SO MUCH HOPE THAT
3:55:59PM FOLKS REALLY WANT TO HELP THEM OUT.
3:56:02PM I'M TELLING YOU, THE OFFICERS, THEY DO SO MUCH THAT WOULD
3:56:06PM NEVER GET CAPTURED ON A DAILY BASIS, AND THEIR HEARTS ARE
3:56:11PM REALLY IN THE RIGHT PLACE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO BEING THE
3:56:13PM GUARDIANS OF THE COMMUNITY.
3:56:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
3:56:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
3:56:19PM GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT, ADDED THAT LAUNDRY PROGRAM.
3:56:22PM THEY ACTUALLY DO THAT IN CALIFORNIA NEAR WHERE MY DAUGHTER
3:56:25PM LIVES AND I WAS SO IMPRESSED WITH THAT.
3:56:27PM I JUST WANT TO ASK YOU, IS THERE ANY CONNECTION TO THE
3:56:31PM EXPLORERS PROGRAM AND THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU MENTIONED WHERE
3:56:34PM OUR CHILDREN ARE INTRODUCED TO THAT?
3:56:36PM AND IF NOT, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER
3:56:39PM EXPOSING THEM TO THAT SO THAT -- YOU NEVER KNOW, BECAUSE THE
3:56:43PM INTEREST OF BEING A POLICE OFFICER CAN COME FROM ALL
3:56:46PM CORRIDORS OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
3:56:47PM >> THEY ARE INTRODUCED TO THAT AND FUNNY STORY IS, DURING
3:56:50PM OUR TEEN ACADEMY LAST YEAR, THAT FIRST DAY YOU HAD FOUR
3:56:54PM STUDENTS WHO LOOKED VERY UPSET.
3:56:56PM THEY ENDED UP BECOMING EXPLORERS.
3:56:58PM I SEE THEM AND I REMIND THEM, YOU WEREN'T SO HAPPY THE FIRST
3:57:02PM DAY WITH US, BUT LOOK AT YOU NOW.
3:57:05PM IT FEELS SO GOOD SEEING THEM SMILE.
3:57:09PM AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY WORK WITH US, BUT THEY ALSO GO TO
3:57:12PM EVENTS WITH US AND TALK TO OTHER YOUTH.
3:57:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALSO, CHARLIE, IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO
3:57:20PM VOLUNTEER TEACHERS TO DO STUFF PUBLICLY, BUT --
3:57:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS THINKING IN CASE YOU WANTED TO HAVE
3:57:26PM FREE TIME TO GO AND TEACH.
3:57:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD DO IT
3:57:31PM PUBLICLY.
3:57:31PM THE LAST THING IS, FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT, IS THAT
3:57:38PM SOMETHING -- WHERE IS THAT LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET?
3:57:42PM IS IT INVOLVED IN WHAT WE CALL THE COMMUNITY POLICING AND
3:57:46PM HOW MUCH IS IT?
3:57:48PM >> DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT IS OFFHAND.
3:57:50PM WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THIS, THE MAYOR SUPPORTS US AND THE
3:57:53PM PROGRAMS 110%.
3:57:54PM THE POLICE CHIEF, THEY SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FOR THE
3:57:57PM COMMUNITY.
3:57:58PM I KNOW THAT PART OF OUR BUDGET IS THAT COMMUNITY OUTREACH,
3:58:03PM AND WE USE IT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
3:58:06PM TODAY, WE HAVE A CARES GRANT.
3:58:10PM ACROSS THE STREET THEY ARE CELEBRATING THAT WITH THE
3:58:12PM ORGANIZATIONS WHO GOT CERTAIN FUNDS THROUGHOUT THAT GRANT.
3:58:16PM WE REALLY BELIEVE IN GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY ON AN
3:58:19PM ORGANIZATIONAL LEVEL AND ON AN INDIVIDUAL OFFICER LEVEL.
3:58:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:58:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN MIRANDA.
3:58:27PM VIERA, I'M SORRY.
3:58:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: THREE QUICK THINGS.
3:58:32PM FOLKS TALKED ABOUT FUNDING.
3:58:34PM DO YOU ALL TAKE DONATIONS, TOO?
3:58:36PM >> YEAH, WE HAVE AN ORGANIZATION CALLED RISE TAMPA.
3:58:39PM FOLKS DONATE THERE AND THEY HAVE A PART OF THEIR FUNDING
3:58:43PM THAT IS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
3:58:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALL OF US HAVE DONE FUND-RAISING.
3:58:48PM I CAN TELL YOU WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING THIS LAST TIME, THERE
3:58:51PM ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF MONEY AND MOTIVATION TO
3:58:53PM SUPPORT THE POLICE OFFICERS AND CHANGE THE PERCEPTION OF HOW
3:58:57PM PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THE POLICE.
3:59:02PM WHOEVER IS DOING THAT WANTS TO TALK TO US, MAYBE WE CAN PUT
3:59:05PM THEM ON TO SOME FOLKS TO HELP WITH THAT.
3:59:08PM >> WELL, I'LL GIVE A PLUG.
3:59:10PM IF YOU WANT TO DONATE GO TO RISETAMPA.COM AND YOU CAN DONATE
3:59:13PM TO THE POLICE FOUNDATION.
3:59:14PM THAT HELPS US OUT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
3:59:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: MANY OF THE ACTIVISTS WHO ARE AGAINST
3:59:20PM INVESTMENT IN POLICE AS I'VE TALKED TO THEM THEY HAD
3:59:23PM PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.
3:59:24PM MANY TIMES WITH THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR PARENTS OR OTHERS,
3:59:31PM NEGATIVE EXPERIENCES.
3:59:32PM ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO STOP THE NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE AND
3:59:39PM CREATE POSITIVE EXPERIENCE WOULD BE GREAT.
3:59:40PM AND THEN ANOTHER THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS -- WELL, DO
3:59:47PM YOU KNOW -- I KNOW THE MAYOR HAD A CONSULTANT FROM USF.
3:59:51PM USF HAS A WHOLE PREDICTIVE ANALYTICS AREA.
3:59:56PM ANY OTHER AREAS, PARKS AND REC, TALKING TO USF ABOUT
4:00:02PM PREDICTIVE ANALYTICS ABOUT WHAT WE CAN DO SPECIFICALLY TO
4:00:05PM MOVE THE NUMBERS DOWN?
4:00:08PM >> YEAH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CBI GRANT AND WE'RE PARTNERING
4:00:11PM WITH USF, BRYANNA FOX, A Ph.D., FEMALE THAT WORKS OUT
4:00:16PM THERE.
4:00:17PM VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ON VIOLENT CRIME AND GET ALL THE STATS WE
4:00:22PM NEED TO HELP REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME.
4:00:24PM SHE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS.
4:00:25PM WE PARTNER WITH HER AND USF AND WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY KIND
4:00:28PM OF GUIDE US ON HOW TO LOOK AT ANALYTICS FROM OUTSIDE
4:00:33PM PERSPECTIVE.
4:00:33PM WE HAVE THE WAY WE DO IT INTERNALLY, BUT IT'S GOOD TO LOOK
4:00:37PM AT THINGS HOLISTICALLY.
4:00:40PM SO WE REACH OUT TO THEM FOR GUIDANCE AND HOW WE CAN
4:00:44PM RECOGNIZE VIOLENT CRIME AND MONITORING THE STATS, VERY
4:00:48PM EFFECTIVE.
4:00:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE
4:00:51PM INTERESTING TO US OR HELPFUL FOR US AS BACKGROUND AND
4:00:53PM SUPPORT YOU, PLEASE SEND IT TO ALL US.
4:00:56PM IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU OR SHE SHOULD PRESENT IT TO THE PUBLIC
4:00:59PM SOMETIME IN A FORUM LIKE THIS, LET US KNOW AND WE CAN MAKE A
4:01:02PM MOTION TO DO THAT.
4:01:03PM BECAUSE I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO BE MORE INFORMED.
4:01:05PM NOBODY LIKES CRIME.
4:01:09PM IF WE CAN ADDRESS IT IN A WAY THAT IS POSITIVE, THAT WOULD
4:01:12PM BE BETTER.
4:01:12PM THE LAST THING I'LL THROW IN, I SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT
4:01:18PM RELATED BUT DIFFERENT SUBJECT, THE CITIES THAT ARE
4:01:21PM SUCCESSFUL ALSO HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE
4:01:25PM FOCUSED ON ENDING POVERTY OR REDUCING POVERTY.
4:01:28PM AND WORKING ON EQUITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
4:01:32PM WHAT TAMPA HAS MOSTLY FOCUSED ON THE LAST 20 OR 30 YEARS IS
4:01:37PM SUBSIDIZING REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT AND SUBSIDIZING BIG
4:01:41PM COMPANIES TO MOVE FROM OUT OF STATE.
4:01:42PM WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS FOCUS ON PROGRAMS THAT HELP PROMOTE
4:01:49PM EQUITABLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
4:01:51PM I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE LATER.
4:01:52PM IF WE CHANGE THE WAY -- RIGHT NOW TAMPA HAS AN '80s
4:01:57PM APPROACH TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
4:01:58PM IF WE CHANGE THAT, WE'LL START TO CHANGE THIS OUTLOOK, TOO.
4:02:02PM THANK YOU.
4:02:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
4:02:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU FOR
4:02:07PM YOUR PRESENTATION.
4:02:08PM YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN A LOT OF TIMES.
4:02:10PM ALWAYS SEE YOU AT A LOT OF COMMUNITY EVENTS AND YOU HAVE A
4:02:12PM REAL HEART FOR THE COMMUNITY AND YOU UNDERSTAND LAW
4:02:16PM ENFORCEMENT'S ROLE, LAW ENFORCEMENT'S ROLE RIGHT NOW, AS
4:02:20PM YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IN TERMS OF NOT ONLY BEING, QUOTE,
4:02:22PM UNQUOTE, TOUGH ON CRIME BUT ALSO TOUGH ON THE CAUSES OF
4:02:26PM CRIME.
4:02:27PM YOU ALSO APPRECIATE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UNITED
4:02:28PM STATES HISTORY, AMERICAN HISTORY, LAW ENFORCEMENT'S ROLE
4:02:32PM THEREIN AND THE DIFFERENT PERCEPTIONS AND YOU ARE ALWAYS
4:02:34PM VERY THOUGHTFUL ON THAT AND I ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT 100%.
4:02:37PM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE PROGRAMS, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ON A
4:02:43PM PERSONAL BASIS SUPPORTER OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
4:02:45PM I HAVE BEEN AND SOMETIMES THEY TAKE HITS FOR IT, SOMETIMES
4:02:49PM DON'T, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
4:02:51PM BUT I THINK TWO WAYS OF LOOKING AT THAT, NUMBER ONE SUPPORT
4:02:57PM POLICE OFFICERS AND THE HARD WORK YOU DO.
4:02:58PM YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT PROGRAMS THAT MAKE YOUR JOB
4:03:04PM EASIER.
4:03:05PM PROGRAMS LIKE VISTA VOLUNTEERS AND SERVICE TO AMERICA,
4:03:08PM AMERICORPS, HEAD START, JOB CORPS, THOSE ARE ANTICRIME
4:03:11PM PROGRAMS BECAUSE THEY GIVE KIDS MANY FROM MARGINALIZED
4:03:15PM COMMUNITIES A WAY OUT, AND IT SHOWS THAT THIS, MAYBE THE
4:03:19PM THINGS YOU SEE BEFORE YOU AREN'T THE ONLY OPTIONS THAT YOU
4:03:22PM HAVE AND HERE ARE THE PEOPLE COMING COLLECTIVELY TOGETHER
4:03:25PM THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT SAYING THAT WE WILL INVEST IN YOU
4:03:28PM ECONOMICALLY.
4:03:29PM I THINK OF LOCALLY THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM THAT WE DO, WE
4:03:32PM SAY TO CONTRACTORS, WITH CONTRACTS OVER A MILLION DOLLARS,
4:03:35PM 12% OF YOUR WORKFORCE HAS GOT TO COME FROM A STATE-CERTIFIED
4:03:39PM APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM.
4:03:39PM THAT GIVES PEOPLE HOPE IN LIFE THAT THEY CAN ACHIEVE THE
4:03:44PM MIDDLE CLASS, THE MIDDLE CLASS LIFESTYLE AND THEY DO IT
4:03:47PM THROUGH GOVERNMENT.
4:03:48PM I GUESS MY MESSAGE TO FOLKS IS SUPPORT POLICE OFFICERS.
4:03:52PM I'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT, STRONG LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPORTER, BUT
4:03:56PM ALSO MAKE YOUR JOB EASIER BY ALSO BEING TOUGH ON THE CAUSES
4:04:00PM OF CRIME THROUGH PROGRAMS LIKE THIS, THAT I THINK PREVENT
4:04:03PM CRIME.
4:04:04PM HEAD START, EARLY START, PROGRAMS LIKE THAT DO SO MUCH IN
4:04:08PM GIVING OUR YOUTH FROM MANY MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES A BETTER
4:04:14PM VISION ON WHAT LIFE CAN BE.
4:04:16PM THINGS THAT THE PRIVATE SECTOR OFTEN HAS NO INTEREST IN
4:04:19PM DOING BECAUSE THERE'S NO PROFIT THERE.
4:04:21PM PRIVATE SECTOR, I MEAN BUSINESSES.
4:04:23PM SOMETIMES THEY DO, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T.
4:04:25PM WE HAVE GREAT PARTNERS IN OUR CHURCHES, HOUSES OF WORSHIP,
4:04:28PM MOSQUES, SYNAGOGUES.
4:04:30PM I WANT TO COMMEND YOU BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS
4:04:33PM AND YOU ARE ALWAYS VERY THOUGHTFUL.
4:04:34PM I APPRECIATE YOU.
4:04:35PM THANK YOU.
4:04:37PM >> I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT PARTNERSHIPS.
4:04:39PM WE DO PARTNER WITH DOJ AND VJA.
4:04:42PM THEY DO GIVE US FUNDING.
4:04:44PM WE APPLY FOR GRANTS.
4:04:45PM I WENT TO A CONFERENCE LAST WEEK IN CLEVELAND AND THEY WERE
4:04:48PM ALL THERE AND YOU HAD POLICE CHIEFS AND DEPUTY CHIEFS FROM
4:04:51PM ALL AROUND THE NATION.
4:04:54PM PARTNERSHIP IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT WHAT I DID HERE -- WHAT I
4:04:59PM DID HEAR AT THE CONFERENCE AND WHAT I TOOK AWAY IS CITY OF
4:05:01PM TAMPA IS DOING PRETTY GOOD.
4:05:03PM EVERY CITY HAS THEIR ISSUES.
4:05:06PM DON'T GET ME WRONG.
4:05:07PM HOW WE TREAT OUR COMMUNITY, HOW WE POLICE OUR COMMUNITY, HOW
4:05:10PM WE WORK WITH THE YOUTH, I THINK AT TIMES IT'S NOT PERFECT
4:05:15PM BUT IT CAN BE A MODEL FOR OTHER CITIES AND THE HEART THAT WE
4:05:18PM PUT BEHIND WHAT WE DO.
4:05:20PM WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSIONS OUT THERE IN THE
4:05:23PM COMMUNITY, CITY COUNCIL, AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU COMPARE
4:05:27PM US TO OTHER CITIES AROUND THE NATION AND I TALKED TO A LOT
4:05:31PM OF CHIEFS AND EVERYTHING, WE'RE DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB.
4:05:34PM ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT, BUT I WANT TO PAT OUR CITY ON
4:05:38PM THE BACK THAT WE CARE AND WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE
4:05:42PM AND DO A GOOD JOB FOR OUR YOUTH.
4:05:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
4:05:46PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE WERE SOME
4:05:53PM CONCERNS FROM MEMBERS OF THE JACKSON HEIGHTS COMMUNITY.
4:05:56PM WERE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL?
4:05:57PM >> I KNOW YOU MENTIONED MY NAME DURING THAT.
4:06:00PM MAJOR DiFELICE IS HERE FOR THAT.
4:06:02PM HE IS THE MAJOR OF DISTRICT THREE AND GOT THE HISTORY ON
4:06:06PM THAT.
4:06:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:06:07PM AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT TPD DOES IN PARTNERSHIP
4:06:11PM WITH THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE.
4:06:15PM NOT TO BRAG, IF YOU NEED SOME SUPPORT FOR THE PROGRAMS, WE
4:06:19PM KNOW THE MAYOR.
4:06:21PM >> THANK YOU.
4:06:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:06:23PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
4:06:23PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
4:06:25PM ERIC DiFELICE, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
4:06:27PM HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT JACKSON HEIGHTS AND THE ISSUES THAT HAVE
4:06:31PM BEEN CHRONICALLY PLAGUING THAT AREA.
4:06:35PM FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE FEEL EVERYBODY SHOULD FEEL SAFE IN
4:06:38PM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE
4:06:40PM COMMUNITY TO ENSURE THAT HAPPENS.
4:06:42PM AFTER THE E-MAIL WAS SENT OUT BY MS. TATE, THE CHIEF DID NOT
4:06:45PM CALL HER BUT I REACHED OUT TO HER PERSONALLY TO SPEAK ABOUT
4:06:48PM THE EVENTS AND IMPART KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT
4:06:51PM WE'RE DOING AND KIND OF CLARIFY INFORMATION ON THE SITUATION
4:06:55PM THAT WAS BROUGHT FORTH IN THE E-MAIL THAT WAS REFERENCED
4:06:57PM EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON.
4:06:58PM SO TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY POLICING AND WHAT WE DO TO
4:07:02PM FURTHER THAT, WE ATTEND THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO KIND OF
4:07:07PM BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP AND THE BOND WITH THOSE RESIDENTS
4:07:10PM AND FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING ON IN THEIR COMMUNITIES,
4:07:13PM WHAT THEY ARE EXPERIENCING FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE.
4:07:16PM WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON CHRONICALLY AND HAS BEEN GOING
4:07:18PM ON FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WITH POLICE AND WHAT WE SEE, BUT
4:07:22PM FIND IT IMPORTANT TO LISTEN TO THEM AND SEE WHAT THEY ARE
4:07:25PM EXPERIENCING ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS THROUGH THEIR OWN EYES.
4:07:28PM WE FIND THAT NOT ONLY TRYING TO FIND INNOVATIVE WAYS TO PUT
4:07:35PM OUT OUR RESOURCES AND CAPITALIZE ON THAT.
4:07:43PM WE FOUND THE DIALOGUE GENERATED THROUGH THE MEETINGS HAS
4:07:45PM BEEN BENEFICIAL.
4:07:46PM I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE
4:07:48PM COMMUNICATION THAT WE HAVE, NOT ONLY ARE WE HEARING THEIR
4:07:50PM CONCERNS, WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO IMPART AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT
4:07:53PM WE'RE DOING TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
4:07:55PM SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS A GAS STATION IN THE AREA ON THE
4:07:59PM CORNER OF 34th AND LAKE, AND IT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE IN THE
4:08:02PM PAST AND WE ARE WELL AWARE OF THAT.
4:08:05PM THEY HAD A SERIES OF VIOLENT EVENTS.
4:08:06PM I'D SAY GOING BACK 18 MONTHS FROM MIDDLE OF LAST YEAR TILL
4:08:10PM JANUARY, SERIES OF VIOLENT EVENTS, FEW SHOOTINGS THAT
4:08:14PM PROMPTED THIS ATTENTION AND THIS CAUSE FOR CONCERN.
4:08:18PM SO WE STARTED GOING TO THE MEETINGS.
4:08:20PM WENT OUT AND IDENTIFIED WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO.
4:08:24PM I PERSONALLY SPOKE WITH THE MANAGEMENT AND THE OWNER BECAUSE
4:08:27PM THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES.
4:08:29PM OWNER OWNS THE PROPERTY AND HAS FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND THE
4:08:32PM MANAGER RUNS THE STORE AND IS THE ONE THAT IS THERE DAY TO
4:08:35PM DAY.
4:08:36PM PERSONALLY SPOKE TO THEM, AND WE HAD DETECTIVE CURTIS
4:08:41PM WILLIAMS REACH OUT TO THEM AS WELL.
4:08:43PM WE HAVE A PUBLIC NUISANCE ABATEMENT REFERRAL SYSTEM WE HAVE.
4:08:47PM WHEN CERTAIN PLACES, COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENTS OR
4:08:52PM RESIDENTIAL MEET THE CRITERIA, WE'RE ABLE TO INITIATE A
4:08:54PM REFERRAL WHICH WE DID ON MAY 30th.
4:08:56PM WEEK LATER ON JUNE 7, A LETTER WAS SENT OUT ADDRESSING THOSE
4:09:00PM CONCERNS, AND IT GOES NOT ONLY TO THE OWNER BUT AS WELL TO
4:09:03PM THE MANAGER OF THE SITE.
4:09:05PM IT MAKES SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, PUTTING THEM ON NOTICE THAT
4:09:08PM WE'RE EXPERIENCING PROBLEMS HERE AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE
4:09:11PM FIXES THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND TO REMEDY THOSE SITUATIONS.
4:09:14PM SO SINCE THEN, THEY HAVE BEEN MORE THAN AMICABLE IN WORKING
4:09:19PM WITH US TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS.
4:09:21PM PRIOR TO THAT, THEY PAVED THE SURFACE OF THE PARKING LOT
4:09:25PM TRYING TO IMPROVE THE OVERALL AESTHETICS OF THE BUILDING.
4:09:28PM THEY ADDED LIGHTING, LED LIGHTING TO AGAIN ENHANCE OUR
4:09:33PM SECURITY OF THAT LOCATION.
4:09:35PM THEY UPDATED THEIR CAMERA SYSTEM.
4:09:37PM I BELIEVE THE OWNERS WERE ATTEMPTING TO APPLY FOR A GRANT TO
4:09:41PM IMPROVE THE FACADE AND REMOVE A SIGN OUT THERE THAT IS
4:09:46PM UNSIGHTLY.
4:09:47PM FURTHERMORE, WE ARE WORKING WITH THE OWNER AND THE MANAGER,
4:09:50PM AND WE HAVE AN OPEN DIALOGUE NOW WITH NOT ONLY DETECTIVE
4:09:54PM WILLIAMS BUT DETECTIVE BARBOSA AS WELL GOING BACK AND FORTH
4:09:58PM TRYING TO IMPLEMENT THE IDEAS AND STRATEGIES THAT ARE GOING
4:10:01PM TO BE SUCCESSFUL FOR US TO REDUCE THE CRIME.
4:10:03PM WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS A VERY GREAT DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE TWO
4:10:07PM OF US AND THEY ARE VERY EAGER TO HELP.
4:10:09PM SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, JANUARY 1 UNTIL NOW, WE
4:10:13PM HAVE OVER 160 ENCOUNTERS AT THE STORE.
4:10:17PM WHAT I STARTED NOTICING WHEN I PULLED THE STATS IS WE'RE
4:10:20PM STARTING TO SEE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE WERE TRESPASS
4:10:24PM NOTICES BECAUSE THAT WAS THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT.
4:10:27PM SOME OF THE INSTANCES OF CRIME WE WERE SEEING INVOLVE PEOPLE
4:10:30PM LOITERING ON THE PROPERTY.
4:10:33PM IT'S SUBSTANTIATE UPON THE STORE OWNER AS WELL AS US WHEN
4:10:36PM THEY CALL WE HAVE TO COME TO DETER THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY.
4:10:39PM A LOT OF THE 160 CONTACTS IN THE LAST HALF OF YEAR HAVE BEEN
4:10:42PM TRESPASS NOTICES, WHICH SHOWS ME THAT THEY ARE DOING THEIR
4:10:46PM PART TO CALL US MORE AND THEN WE'RE GOING OUT AND ABLE TO
4:10:49PM ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND TRY TO CLEAN THAT UP.
4:10:51PM SO THAT IS A HUGE IMPROVEMENT.
4:10:53PM WHAT ALSO I NOTICED WHILE PULLING THE STATS IS FROM THE
4:10:56PM BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR UNTIL NOW, WE HAVE SEEN A REDUCTION
4:10:59PM IN VIOLENT CRIMES THAT HAVE BEEN INITIATED OR COMMITTED IN
4:11:04PM AND AROUND THE PROPERTY AS A WHOLE.
4:11:06PM THAT SHOWS ME THE ATTENTION WE'RE GIVING THE ESTABLISHMENT,
4:11:08PM NOT ONLY THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AND THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WAS
4:11:11PM CREATED WITH THE MANAGEMENT, THAT IT IS WORKING.
4:11:14PM AND I SEE IT ON A DAILY BASIS.
4:11:16PM WE ALSO FELT THE NECESSITY TO INCREASE OUR PATROLS OF OUR
4:11:21PM HOT SPOT AREAS, THE PLACES THAT ARE CHRONICALLY PLAGUED WITH
4:11:24PM VIOLENCE.
4:11:24PM AND THAT WAS ONE OF THEM.
4:11:26PM SO WE HAVE OFFICERS THAT GO OUT AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS
4:11:29PM FOR MONTHS NOW AND THEY GO OUT AND THEY ARE MAIN FOCUSED,
4:11:34PM NOT TIED TO CALLS FOR SERVICE, MAIN FOCUS IS TO GO OUT AND
4:11:37PM ADDRESS THE HOT SPOT AREAS.
4:11:39PM 34th AND LAKE IS ONE OF THEM AS WELL AS JACKSON HEIGHTS
4:11:41PM WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
4:11:43PM OUR OFFICERS ARE OUT THERE IN FORCE MAKING SURE NO LARGE
4:11:47PM CROWDS ARE GATHERING AND THAT THEY ARE DETERRING CRIMINAL
4:11:49PM BEHAVIOR AND LOITERING FROM THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS.
4:11:52PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE STARTED A PROGRAM IN FEBRUARY WHEN
4:11:55PM WE HAD OUR DEPLOYMENT CALLED RETAKE THE LAKE THAT WAS GOING
4:11:59PM BY CAPTAIN RICHARDSON.
4:12:01PM WE'VE KNOWN LAKE HAS BEEN A PROBLEM IN THE COMMUNITY AND
4:12:04PM WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THAT, AND WE'VE INCREASED OUR PATROLS IN
4:12:07PM THAT AREA FROM THE 22nd AVENUE ALL THE WAY TO 34th
4:12:11PM STREET CORRIDOR ON LAKE AVENUE.
4:12:12PM THAT JUST GOES INTO IT AS WELL.
4:12:14PM WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS GOING THROUGH.
4:12:19PM WE ARE MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE, TO
4:12:23PM ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS.
4:12:24PM WE HAVE SEEN MARKED IMPROVEMENT.
4:12:27PM OUR GOAL IS TO NOT ONLY -- WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TARGET
4:12:30PM ANYONE'S STORE.
4:12:31PM WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT.
4:12:32PM ONE SIDE IS WE DO NEED TO CURB SOME OF THE CRIME GOING ON
4:12:35PM THERE.
4:12:36PM THE OTHER SIDE IS THAT AS A COMMUNITY AND A LOCAL STORE, THE
4:12:39PM MANAGER OF THAT PROPERTY HAS GARNERED SUPPORT FOR HIM
4:12:42PM STAYING OPEN BECAUSE PEOPLE SHOP THERE EVERY DAY.
4:12:45PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SERVING BOTH SIDES AND
4:12:48PM MAKING SURE THE PEOPLE WHO DO VISIT THAT STORE CAN DO SO IN
4:12:52PM A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
4:12:53PM ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
4:12:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS MORNING THE SPEAKER, MS. TATE, WHO
4:12:59PM IS THE PRESIDENT OF JACKSON HEIGHTS, SAID, I DON'T WANT TO
4:13:03PM SELL MY HOUSE.
4:13:04PM I DON'T WANT TO MOVE.
4:13:06PM PEOPLE SAY OH, JUST MOVE OUT OF THERE.
4:13:08PM IT REALLY STRUCK ME BECAUSE IT'S SO BAD AT TIMES FROM
4:13:13PM SOMEBODY THAT LIVES THERE, THAT WITNESSES THAT, THAT 24/7,
4:13:17PM WORK FROM HOME OR WHATEVER, THAT THAT WOULD EVEN BE
4:13:20PM CONSIDERED.
4:13:21PM AND SOMEBODY, I BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK OR COUNCIL
4:13:25PM MEMBER CLENDENIN, EVERYBODY SHOULD FEEL SAFE AT HOME.
4:13:28PM I LIVE IN WEST TAMPA.
4:13:30PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WEST -- WE LIVE ALL THROUGHOUT, BUT
4:13:34PM WE LIVE IN GOOD NEIGHBORHOODS.
4:13:35PM I FEEL THAT WE NEED THAT EQUITY ACROSS THE CITY.
4:13:38PM I KNOW NO CITY IS PERFECT.
4:13:40PM THE GOOD PARTS AND BAD PARTS AND WHATNOT, BUT WITH
4:13:44PM EVERYTHING THAT CALVIN JOHNSON TALKED ABOUT, TALK ABOUT
4:13:48PM MENTORING THE YOUTH, I KNOW THAT TPD IS TAKING STEPS FROM
4:13:51PM EARLY AGES TO NOW.
4:13:53PM BETTER PATROLLING THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND WHATNOT.
4:13:55PM IT COULD BE SIMPLE THINGS LIKE BETTER LIGHTING THROUGHOUT A
4:13:57PM LOT OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.
4:13:58PM WE MAY NOT HAVE THAT.
4:14:00PM WE TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
4:14:03PM I MENTIONED MANY TIMES, YOU GO EAST OF THE INTERSTATE AND
4:14:07PM EAST TAMPA IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM HOW WEST AND SOUTH
4:14:10PM TAMPA AND NORTH TAMPA ARE.
4:14:12PM THERE'S SO MUCH IMPROVEMENT.
4:14:15PM AGAIN, THE POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE IS EVERYBODY SHOULD
4:14:18PM FEEL SAFE.
4:14:19PM AND NOBODY SHOULD EVER THINK I'VE GOT TO MOVE OUT, SELL MY
4:14:23PM HOUSE AND GO WHERE?
4:14:24PM AFFORDABILITY IS A MAJOR ISSUE.
4:14:26PM DO THEY MOVE OUT OF TOWN?
4:14:28PM WHERE DO THEY GO?
4:14:29PM AGAIN, THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT WORK HARD.
4:14:31PM THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
4:14:32PM THEY INVEST IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
4:14:34PM WHETHER THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, VOLUNTEERING, THEY
4:14:36PM CARE.
4:14:36PM THEY CARE TO COME DOWN HERE.
4:14:39PM THEY ARE VERY VIGILANT AND INVOLVED IN WHAT CITY COUNCIL
4:14:44PM DOES AND WHAT THE CITY DOES.
4:14:45PM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO AND TPD DOES.
4:14:49PM IF YOU NEED ANYTHING FROM US, WE'RE HERE TO HELP BECAUSE
4:14:53PM WE'RE OUT THERE CAMPAIGNING.
4:14:55PM WE'RE OUT THERE AT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, WHATEVER IT
4:14:57PM IS.
4:14:57PM PEOPLE CALL OUR OFFICES AND WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY
4:15:01PM OF LIFE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND SPECIFICALLY IN AREAS THAT
4:15:06PM FOR A LONG TIME THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES.
4:15:09PM WE MENTIONED LAKE.
4:15:10PM THERE ARE OTHER AVENUES AND AREAS WHERE IT'S NOT LIKE THE
4:15:14PM REST OF THE CITY.
4:15:15PM AGAIN, WE NEED THAT EQUITY, THAT SAFETY, THAT COMFORT THAT
4:15:19PM PEOPLE CAN GO HOME AND SAY, I'M IN MY SAFE HAVEN OF MY
4:15:23PM HOUSE, NOT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, AM I GOING TO HEAR
4:15:26PM GUNSHOTS?
4:15:27PM CAN'T LIVE LIKE THAT.
4:15:29PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:15:29PM YES, MA'AM.
4:15:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
4:15:31PM I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT AND ALSO TO SAY THAT EVERY
4:15:38PM NEIGHBORHOOD IS FULL OF GOOD PEOPLE.
4:15:41PM EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
4:15:42PM JUST MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN FEEL SAFE IN THEIR
4:15:49PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND HELP OUT WHERE THEY CAN.
4:15:53PM AND I THINK I APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.
4:15:55PM I KNOW THAT YOU WILL STAY IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH MS. TATE,
4:15:59PM AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
4:16:02PM AND I KNOW THAT JUST THE REORGANIZATION YOU'RE KIND OF GOING
4:16:08PM THROUGH AS A DEPARTMENT NOW, I KNOW WILL CONTINUE TO
4:16:12PM STRENGTHEN THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
4:16:16PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.
4:16:18PM A LOT OF INFORMATION I DIDN'T KNOW.
4:16:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
4:16:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HELLO, DiFELICE, HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
4:16:26PM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE AS THE DISTRICT
4:16:29PM 5 CITY COUNCIL WOMAN, I'VE BEEN VERY ENGAGED WITH DISTRICT
4:16:33PM 3'S OFFICE.
4:16:34PM YOUR LIAISON, ANTHONY HOPKINS, HAS BEEN AMAZING.
4:16:39PM EVERY SINGLE CUSTOMER SERVICE MESSAGE THAT COMES IN, EVERY
4:16:44PM PHONE CALL OR E-MAIL, THEY ARE ADDRESSED RIGHT AWAY.
4:16:47PM HE COMMUNICATES WHAT'S HAPPENED.
4:16:49PM SO EVEN IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, I'M ALSO AWARE THAT
4:16:54PM PARTICULAR STORE OWNER, AS YOU SAID, HAS DONE EVERYTHING IN
4:16:57PM HIS POWER TO CREATE A SPACE WHERE HE'S FOLLOWING THE RULES
4:17:03PM AND IT'S NOT HIM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ASSOCIATION AROUND
4:17:05PM THE STORE.
4:17:06PM SO MAKING THE EXTRA PHONE CALLS, DOING WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO
4:17:10PM AND NOT NECESSARILY COWERING TO THE WILL OF THE COMMUNITY,
4:17:15PM FOR HIM TO GO AWAY.
4:17:17PM HE IS A BUSINESS OWNER.
4:17:18PM HE HAS A RIGHT TO OPERATE AND HE NEEDS TO BE SAFE AS WELL.
4:17:21PM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU REPORTING ON THE FACT THAT WHAT HE'S
4:17:25PM DOING TO IMPROVE THE SITUATION.
4:17:26PM ALL WE CAN DO IS JUST CRACK AT IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
4:17:30PM I KNOW THAT DISTRICT THREE IS DOING THAT.
4:17:33PM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
4:17:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
4:17:36PM ANYBODY ELSE?
4:17:37PM AGAIN, WE ARE GRATEFUL, BUT WE HAVE TO DO BETTER.
4:17:46PM I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY WHEN YOU HAVE ALMOST 400,000 PEOPLE IN
4:17:49PM A CITY, BUT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID IT, THERE ARE GOOD
4:17:52PM PEOPLE IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD.
4:17:53PM PEOPLE THAT CARE AND THAT THEY DEVOTE THEIR TIME TO
4:17:56PM IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE DOING WHAT IT TAKES.
4:17:59PM I KNOW WITH THE PARTNERSHIP WITH TPD WE CAN GET THERE.
4:18:02PM IT'S NOT EASY, BUT, AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.
4:18:05PM THANK YOU FOR THE UPDATE, SIR.
4:18:07PM >> YOU ARE VERY WELCOME.
4:18:08PM THANK YOU ALL.
4:18:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
4:18:09PM ITEM NUMBER 59.
4:18:13PM WERE WE GOING TO DISCUSS THIS, COUNCILMAN VIERA?
4:18:15PM YES, MA'AM.
4:18:22PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
4:18:23PM ALMOST GOOD EVENING.
4:18:25PM OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
4:18:28PM AFFAIRS.
4:18:29PM I AM SUPEREXCITED, ALTHOUGH YOU PROBABLY CAN'T TELL, I AM
4:18:33PM EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE
4:18:36PM INTERNSHIP PROGRAM FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH INTELLECTUAL
4:18:39PM DISABILITIES.
4:18:40PM YOU ASKED US TO COME BACK AND PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE
4:18:45PM PROGRAM, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO TODAY.
4:18:48PM SO STAFF COLLABORATED WITH THE EXECUTIVE LEADERS FROM THE
4:18:55PM McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER, PEPIN ACADEMY AS WELL WITH THE
4:18:59PM GROW GROUP.
4:19:00PM THROUGH THAT COLLABORATION, WE DEVELOPED A FRAMEWORK OR THE
4:19:06PM FOUNDATION OF WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THIS PROGRAM.
4:19:09PM SO THE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IS TO PROVIDE AN EQUITABLE AND
4:19:13PM INCLUSIVE WORKPLACE AWARENESS BY EXPOSING INDIVIDUALS WITH
4:19:19PM INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES TO OPPORTUNITIES WENT CITY OF
4:19:24PM TAMPA.
4:19:25PM THE PROGRAM WILL FOCUS ON THE YOUNG ADULTS AGES 18 AND
4:19:31PM OLDER.
4:19:34PM AND THE INTERNSHIP WILL PARTNER OR ALIGN PRIMARILY WITH OUR
4:19:39PM CURRENT OR TRADITIONAL INTERNSHIP PROGRAM, STARTING ON
4:19:43PM AUGUST 25th, PAYING $15 AN HOUR AND UP TO $25 -- 25 HOURS
4:19:51PM A WEEK.
4:19:52PM THE TRADITIONAL PROGRAM WE JUST FOCUSED ON EVEN WITH THIS
4:19:59PM PROGRAM, WE HAD PEPIN STUDENTS, WE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON CITY
4:20:03PM HALL AND OLD CITY HALL.
4:20:06PM BUT WE'RE EXPANDING THE OPPORTUNITIES NOW TO INCLUDE PARKS
4:20:10PM AND RECREATION AND A LOT OF THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE
4:20:13PM THERE.
4:20:15PM -- WITH THEM.
4:20:16PM SO WITH THE LEADERS OF THESE AGENCIES, WE ARE ABLE TO
4:20:20PM IDENTIFY TRAINING THAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING THAT ALIGN
4:20:26PM WITH SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES, WORK OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN
4:20:30PM THE CITY.
4:20:31PM THE PROGRAM WILL CONSIST OF AN INTERVIEW, AND WILL REQUIRE
4:20:36PM THE PARTICIPANTS TO TOUR THEIR WORK LOCATIONS PRIOR TO
4:20:40PM COMING ON BECAUSE WE WANT THIS PROGRAM TO BE A SUCCESS AND
4:20:45PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THE
4:20:48PM ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY ARE WORKING IN.
4:20:50PM THE CITY OF TAMPA IN OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, WE
4:20:55PM HAVE A THERAPEUTIC SUPERVISOR.
4:20:58PM THE THERAPEUTIC SUPERVISOR PRIMARILY WORKS WITH OUR
4:21:02PM PARTICIPANTS WITH DISABILITIES.
4:21:06PM SO THE SUPERVISOR WILL BE THAT LIAISON BETWEEN THE
4:21:10PM ORGANIZATION, AS WELL AS WITH PARK STAFF, TO ENSURE THAT
4:21:15PM THERE IS A SMOOTH TRANSITION WITH THESE PARTICIPANTS AND
4:21:19PM THEIR ASSIGNMENTS.
4:21:20PM WE WILL HAVE THE MARKETING ON THE CITY OF TAMPA'S WEBSITE.
4:21:23PM WE'LL HAVE A JOB ANNOUNCEMENT ADVERTISED LIKE WE ADVERTISE
4:21:27PM OUR OTHER JOBS, AND THE APPLICANTS MUST MEET OUR MINIMUM
4:21:31PM QUALIFICATIONS.
4:21:32PM THE OTHER INFORMATION, OUR AGENCY COACHES OR THE AGENCY
4:21:39PM COACHES WILL BE AVAILABLE TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS AND
4:21:43PM MONITOR THE STUDENTS OR THE PARTICIPANTS AS THEY ARE GOING
4:21:47PM THROUGH THEIR WORK DAY.
4:21:49PM THE PARTICIPANTS WILL HAVE BADGES, ID BADGES.
4:21:55PM IT WOULD BE LIKE OUR REGULAR EVERYDAY EMPLOYEES.
4:21:57PM SO AT THIS POINT, I'LL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY
4:22:02PM HAVE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM.
4:22:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR AND MS. WYNN,
4:22:09PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
4:22:09PM I KNOW YOU ARE A VERY, VERY BUSY WOMAN AND I KNOW THIS WAS
4:22:13PM ANOTHER THING FOR YOU TO DO.
4:22:15PM OBVIOUSLY, A WORK OF JOY BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A GREAT PROGRAM.
4:22:18PM BUT JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
4:22:19PM WE ALL KNOW HOW BUSY YOU ARE AND THE MANY HATS YOU WEAR.
4:22:22PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS.
4:22:23PM I THINK THE GREATEST THING ABOUT THIS PROSPECTIVE INTERNSHIP
4:22:30PM PROGRAM, NUMBER ONE, PEOPLE ARE PAID.
4:22:32PM PAID $15 AN HOUR WHICH BEFORE COVID-19 WAS A PRETTY GREAT
4:22:36PM SALARY.
4:22:36PM NOW STILL GOOD, BUT IT DOESN'T IMPACT AS MUCH AS IT ONCE
4:22:41PM DID, BUT THAT'S WONDERFUL FOR THIS.
4:22:43PM THAT IS A GREAT THING.
4:22:44PM IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT -- IT'S NOT A PROGRAM THAT WE'RE FUNDING
4:22:48PM FOR BUSINESSES.
4:22:49PM IT'S A PROGRAM THAT WE'RE FUNDING FOR CITY DEPARTMENTS,
4:22:53PM INCLUDING, IF I MAY, I'D LOVE TO HAVE AN INTERN IN TAMPA
4:22:57PM CITY COUNCIL, TOO, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD DO THAT.
4:22:59PM BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT MAKES US STAKEHOLDERS WHICH IS SO
4:23:04PM IMPORTANT.
4:23:06PM WHAT WAS IT ST. FRANCIS ASSISI SAID, PREACH ALWAYS AND SPEAK
4:23:11PM IF YOU HAVE TO.
4:23:12PM WE'RE DOING BOTH.
4:23:13PM TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE AUTISM AWARENESS AND LEADING ON
4:23:17PM MANY DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THE HONORARY NAMING FOR MIKE
4:23:22PM PHILLIPS, AMONG MANY, MANY OTHER THINGS.
4:23:25PM AUTISM FRIENDLY CITY OF TAMPA, MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
4:23:26PM BUT THIS IS ALSO MONETARILY INVESTING AND PUTTING OUR TIME
4:23:30PM ON THIS VERY ISSUE.
4:23:31PM AND WE'RE PARTNERING UP WITH GREAT ORGANIZATIONS LIKE
4:23:33PM McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER, LIKE PEPIN, AND OTHER FOLKS
4:23:36PM THAT JUST DO SUCH A REALLY, REALLY GREAT JOB.
4:23:39PM I KNOW THIS IS FUNDED AND WE GOT IT IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR
4:23:43PM FOR THIS YEAR AND FUNDING AT EVEN HIGHER LEVEL HERE, BUT
4:23:46PM IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
4:23:48PM I'LL TELL YOU ON A PERSONAL BASIS, PEOPLE RUN FOR OFFICE FOR
4:23:52PM ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF REASONS.
4:23:54PM ONE OF THE REASONS I RAN FOR OFFICE.
4:23:55PM THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR ME.
4:23:57PM IT IS THE ISSUE OF MY LIFE AND FOR MY FAMILY AND OUR
4:24:01PM EXPERIENCE.
4:24:02PM IT'S VERY PERSONAL, DEEPLY PERSONAL ISSUE FOR ME.
4:24:07PM SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE IT IS VERY
4:24:10PM PERSONAL.
4:24:11PM GOD BLESS YOU.
4:24:12PM YOU'LL DO GREAT THINGS FOR FAMILIES WHO REALLY NEED THAT.
4:24:16PM I MEAN, A LOT OF THESE FAMILIES RAISING FOLKS WITH AUTISM,
4:24:19PM DOWN SYNDROME, INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, THEY FEEL LEFT
4:24:22PM BEHIND AND THEY FEEL ISOLATED BY SOCIETY THAT OFTEN DOESN'T
4:24:25PM CARE ABOUT THEM, BY A CULTURE THAT MOCKS THEM, BY AN ECONOMY
4:24:29PM THAT LEAVES THEM BEHIND.
4:24:30PM SO THIS IS A REAL GOOD GESTURE BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
4:24:33PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
4:24:34PM AND THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION, TOO, FOR WORKING WITH
4:24:37PM US ON THIS AS WELL.
4:24:39PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
4:24:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:24:43PM AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, AS COUNCILMAN VIERA
4:24:46PM AND THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA, FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
4:24:50PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR MORE PEOPLE.
4:24:52PM AGAIN, EQUITY IN THIS COMMUNITY, WE'RE A VERY DIVERSE
4:24:55PM COMMUNITY AND WE'RE OPENING DOORS AND ALLOWING PATHWAYS FOR
4:25:00PM EVERYBODY OR MORE PEOPLE.
4:25:02PM AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
4:25:04PM MY STEP DAUGHTER IS 11.
4:25:07PM SHE IS SEVERELY AUTISTIC.
4:25:15PM WILL SHE WORK ONE DAY?
4:25:17PM I DON'T KNOW.
4:25:17PM BUT I KNOW THAT OPPORTUNITY IS THERE AND THAT US AS A CITY,
4:25:21PM WE HAVE THAT AND I'M VERY GRATEFUL.
4:25:24PM AGAIN, THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA, FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
4:25:27PM THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
4:25:28PM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
4:25:29PM I KNOW IT'S LATE IN THE DAY.
4:25:31PM YOU WORK VERY HARD.
4:25:31PM I SAW YOU A COUPLE OF MORNINGS AGO, BRIGHT AND EARLY, PULLED
4:25:36PM UP NEXT TO ME.
4:25:37PM YOU DO A LOT.
4:25:38PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:25:39PM >>OCEA WYNN: WE'RE HERE TO SERVE.
4:25:40PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
4:25:41PM HAVE A GREAT DAY.
4:25:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL SKIP OVER 60.
4:25:44PM WE ADDRESSED THAT.
4:25:45PM ITEM 61, ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA REGARDING FOREST HILLS
4:25:52PM PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
4:25:55PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, COUNCIL, MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL
4:25:58PM ESTATE.
4:25:58PM I'M HERE TO PROVIDE YOU SOME UPDATES ON SOME OF YOUR MOTIONS
4:26:02PM AND REQUESTS FOR HONORARY NAMING.
4:26:05PM FIRST ITEM 61, WE HAVE SHIRLEY RISLER.
4:26:08PM IF WE COULD HAVE THE PowerPoint.
4:26:14PM WHILE THEY ARE BRINGING THAT UP, THE MOTION WAS MADE BY
4:26:18PM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO RECOGNIZE MS. RISLER FOR ALL OF HER WORK
4:26:21PM AND DEDICATION OVER MANY, MANY DECADES OUT AT THE FOREST
4:26:24PM HILLS COMMUNITY CENTER.
4:26:25PM SHE WAS INTEGRAL TO DESIGN ON CERTAIN PARTS OF THAT BUILDING
4:26:29PM FOR THE YOUTH.
4:26:30PM SHE IMPLEMENTED AND ESTABLISHED SEVERAL PROGRAMS, NUMEROUS
4:26:34PM PROGRAMS FOR THE YOUTH AT THE CENTER AND ALSO FOR THE
4:26:37PM COMMUNITY AT-LARGE.
4:26:38PM SHE ESTABLISHED SEVERAL CULTURAL, THE FOREST HILLS COMMUNITY
4:26:42PM CENTER IS IN A MULTICULTURAL AREA AND SHE PUT TOGETHER
4:26:45PM EVENTS SO THAT NEIGHBORS COULD GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER, LEARN
4:26:48PM MORE ABOUT EACH OTHER.
4:26:49PM SO SHE WAS ALWAYS LOOKING OUT FOR NOT JUST THE YOUTH THAT
4:26:54PM SHE SERVED BUT THEIR HOME LIVES AND THE COMMUNITY.
4:26:56PM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS VERY HONORED AND THRILLED TO HAVE
4:26:59PM THIS OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE HER.
4:27:02PM SO THERE IS A NEW TRAIL THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED AT THE
4:27:11PM FOREST HILLS COMMUNITY CENTER.
4:27:13PM AND THEY WILL DEDICATE THE FITNESS TRAIL IN HONOR OF
4:27:17PM MS. SHIRLEY RISLER.
4:27:19PM AGAIN, PARKS IS VERY HAPPY TO DO THAT.
4:27:21PM SO WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT NO ACTION IS NEEDED BY
4:27:26PM COUNCIL BUT PARKS AND REC IS MOVING FORWARD WITH THE
4:27:28PM DEDICATION OF THE TRAIL IN HER HONOR.
4:27:30PM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
4:27:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
4:27:34PM REAL QUICK.
4:27:35PM FIRST, GLAD TO SEE THAT ROSS FERLITA IS HONORED HERE IN THE
4:27:41PM GREEN WAY AND TRAIL SYSTEM I ALREADY KNOW EXISTING.
4:27:45PM LEGENDARY INDIVIDUAL IF YOU TALK TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN
4:27:47PM THE CITY AND KNOW.
4:27:50PM I THINK THIS IS VERY WELL DESERVED.
4:27:51PM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA, FOR BRINGING THIS UP.
4:27:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MS. VAN LOAN, FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
4:27:58PM SHIRLEY IS A WONDERFUL PERSON.
4:28:00PM I KNOW WE'RE ALL HAPPY ABOUT THIS, NONE HAPPIER THAN A YOUNG
4:28:03PM WOMAN WHO GREW UP IN FOREST HILLS -- I WANTED TO POINT THAT
4:28:10PM OUT.
4:28:10PM THANK YOU FOR THIS.
4:28:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHIRLEY IS, I THINK, VERY DESERVING OF
4:28:17PM THIS.
4:28:18PM THE IMPACT TO THE COMMUNITY, YOU SPOKE ABOUT IT IN A
4:28:21PM PREVIOUS SLIDE.
4:28:22PM VERY GOOD.
4:28:23PM YOU DON'T NEED ANY ACTION FROM COUNCIL.
4:28:25PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: NO.
4:28:26PM THERE IS A PROVISION IN ORDINANCE 23-63 THAT IF A TRAIL IS
4:28:30PM PART OF A LARGER TRAIL SYSTEM, IT CAN BE DEDICATED
4:28:33PM UNDERNEATH THE PARKS' INTERNAL PROGRAM AND DOES NOT REQUIRE
4:28:36PM ACTION BY COUNCIL.
4:28:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
4:28:38PM WE'LL GO TO ITEM 63.
4:28:44PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: ITEM 63 AGAIN WAS A MOTION
4:28:46PM BY COUNCILMAN VIERA TO HONOR SALVADOR MARTINEZ
4:28:50PM YBOR FOR ALL OF HIS HEROIC ACTIONS DURING
4:28:54PM WORLD WAR II.
4:28:55PM HE RECEIVED THE PURPLE HEART AND HIS SON DONATED HIS PURPLE
4:28:58PM HEART MEDAL AND NOW ON DISPLAY AT THE YBOR CITY MUSEUM.
4:29:02PM AND WITH THIS ONE, WE HAVE -- YOU CAN SEE THERE IS YBOR CITY
4:29:06PM MUSEUM ON THE MAP AND RIGHT AT THAT STOP SIGN WHERE THE RED
4:29:11PM STAR IS, THEY WILL ADD THE STREET NAMING SIGN ON THAT SIGN
4:29:15PM RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF THE YBOR'S MUSEUM.
4:29:21PM I AM REQUESTING, IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL THAT WE
4:29:24PM SET OUR FIRST READING FOR THE ORDINANCE FOR AUGUST 24th.
4:29:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SALVADOR MARTINEZ YBOR IS THE SON OR
4:29:31PM GRANDSON?
4:29:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: HE WAS THE RAFAEL MARTINEZ YBOR'S, THE
4:29:40PM GRANDSON.
4:29:42PM AND HE WAS KILLED IN ACTION IN 1945, I BELIEVE IT WAS,
4:29:47PM FEBRUARY OR JANUARY OF 1945, SHRAPNEL AND HE WAS BURIED AT
4:29:52PM SEA.
4:29:53PM HE WAS A YOUNG MAN WHO GREW UP HERE IN TAMPA AND YBOR CITY,
4:30:00PM LEFT AT THE BEGINNING OF PROHIBITION WITH HIS FAMILY TO GO
4:30:02PM TO CUBA.
4:30:03PM IN 1941 AT PEARL HARBOR WHEN HE SAW HIS HOMELAND HAD BEEN
4:30:08PM ATTACKED BY THE JAPANESE, HE SIGNED UP, GAVE UP A LIFE OF
4:30:12PM LUXURY IN CUBA BECAUSE HE LOVED THE UNITED STATES SO MUCH,
4:30:16PM HE WAS INITIALLY REJECTED I BELIEVE IT WAS BY THE MARINE
4:30:18PM CORPS BECAUSE HE WAS TOO OLD.
4:30:19PM THEN HE WENT TO THE UNITED STATES ARMY WHERE HE WAS
4:30:22PM ACCEPTED.
4:30:22PM FORGOT WHAT AGE HE WAS.
4:30:24PM HE WOULD SERVE HONORABLY FOR THREE AND A HALF OR FOUR YEARS
4:30:27PM OR SO UNTIL HIS UNFORTUNATE DEATH.
4:30:29PM HIS NEPHEW, IGNACIO MARTINEZ YBOR WHO NOW LIVES IN MIAMI
4:30:33PM WOULD COME HERE AS A CUBAN EXILE IN 1960s.
4:30:37PM WONDERFUL MAN.
4:30:37PM DONATED THE PURPLE HEART HE RECEIVED.
4:30:40PM HE KNEW MARTINEZ YBOR WHEN HE WAS VERY, VERY YOUNG, FOUR,
4:30:45PM FIVE YEARS OLD.
4:30:46PM AND THIS IS THE GENTLEMAN, INTERESTING THAT AFTER HIS DEATH,
4:30:49PM THERE WAS A LOT IN THE NEWS ABOUT HIM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
4:30:52PM IN 1945.
4:30:54PM THEN UNTIL A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO OR SO, HIS NAME WAS NEVER
4:30:57PM REALLY SPOKEN BECAUSE PEOPLE FORGOT ABOUT IT.
4:30:59PM WHEN I WAS DOING RESEARCH FOR MEMORIAL DAY AND SAW THE NAME
4:31:02PM YBOR, I'LL BE DAMNED DIDN'T KNOW MARTINEZ YBOR WAS KILLED IN
4:31:06PM ACTION IN WORLD WAR II AND FOLKS KNEW ABOUT HIM.
4:31:09PM THANKS TO THE MARTINEZ YBOR FAMILY WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS.
4:31:12PM AGAIN, THANK YOU.
4:31:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAS HE KILLED IN THE PACIFIC OR EUROPE?
4:31:21PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: IN JANUARY OF 1945 HE WAS FATALLY
4:31:26PM WOUNDED DURING THE AMPHIBIOUS LANDING AT THE BATTLE OF LUZON
4:31:31PM OFF THE COAST OF SAN FABIAN.
4:31:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S INTERESTING WITH A NAME LIKE YBOR
4:31:38PM WHICH IS SO SIGNIFICANT TO TAMPA'S HISTORY THAT YOU HAVE A
4:31:41PM RELATIVE THAT -- JUST LIKE TEDDY ROOSEVELT.
4:31:43PM HIS SON DIED DURING D-DAY INVASION?
4:31:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, HE DIED IN WORLD WAR I, QUENTIN.
4:31:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY HONORABLE.
4:31:53PM YOU NEED A MOTION TO SET THIS FOR AUGUST 24th?
4:31:56PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: FOR AUGUST 24th FOR FIRST READING.
4:31:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
4:32:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
4:32:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
4:32:02PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
4:32:04PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:32:05PM AYE.
4:32:06PM ITEM NUMBER 64.
4:32:08PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: ITEM NUMBER 64 WAS A MOTION BY FORMER
4:32:11PM COUNCILMAN CITRO IN HONOR OF JIM URBANSKI REQUESTING A
4:32:16PM STREET NAME SIGN SOMEWHERE NEAR THE OLD TRIBUNE BUILDING.
4:32:20PM MR. URBANSKI SPENT MORE THAN 31 YEARS AT THE TAMPA TRIBUNE.
4:32:24PM BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE WAS A VERY INVOLVED -- HE WAS VERY
4:32:28PM INVOLVED IN THE CHAMBER AND YOUTH AND THE YMCA AND BOYS AND
4:32:32PM GIRLS CLUB.
4:32:33PM HE WAS ON THE BOARDS OF MANY OF OUR BIG EVENTS AND FIESTAS
4:32:37PM AND ALL OF THOSE ACTIVITIES THAT MAKE TAMPA SO GREAT AND
4:32:42PM ATTRACT SO MANY OUTSIDERS.
4:32:44PM BUT ALWAYS DEDICATED.
4:32:46PM IT WAS THE STRAZ.
4:32:46PM SO HE WAS INVOLVED WITH THE YOUTH AND THE CULTURE OF OUR
4:32:49PM CITY AND CONTINUED THAT THROUGH HIS LIFETIME.
4:32:53PM IN RECOGNITION OF THAT, HERE YOU CAN SEE THE FORMER TRIBUNE
4:32:59PM BUILDING, AND RIGHT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION, SORRY, THE
4:33:01PM STAR IS A LITTLE OFF, WHERE YOU SEE THE STOP SIGN, THAT
4:33:04PM INTERSECTION, THAT SIGN IS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THAT
4:33:07PM BUILDING AND THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT IS RECOMMENDING THAT
4:33:10PM THE STREET NAMING SIGN BE ERECTED RIGHT THERE ON THAT SIGN
4:33:14PM AT THAT INTERSECTION.
4:33:15PM IF IT ALSO PLEASE THE COUNCIL, WE WOULD ASK FOR THIS ONE A
4:33:20PM DATE OF FIRST READING FOR THIS ONE FOR OCTOBER 19th.
4:33:25PM I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND.
4:33:28PM IN THE ORDINANCE, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE ASSET NAMED AFTER
4:33:31PM YOU.
4:33:31PM WE DO HAVE A PROCESS.
4:33:32PM IF THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE ASSET, AND THERE IS A DOG PARK AT
4:33:37PM AL LOPEZ PARK THAT HAS FOR A WHILE BEEN NAMED FOR MR.
4:33:41PM URBANSKI.
4:33:42PM REQUIRE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF ORDINANCE AND WE ALSO WANT TO
4:33:44PM MAKE SURE THAT WITH THAT NEW INFORMATION THAT'S INCLUDED IN
4:33:47PM OUR POSTING ON OUR WEBSITE.
4:33:49PM SO IF IT PLEASE COUNCIL, WE WOULD ASK FOR A FIRST READING
4:33:52PM SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 19th.
4:33:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
4:33:55PM I WAS IN COMMUNICATION WITH SOME OF THE FAMILY, WELL, A
4:34:00PM FRIEND OF THE FAMILY, THE LIAISON.
4:34:03PM AND THEY HAD REQUESTED FOR PARKER STREET, SO I THINK THIS
4:34:08PM WORKS.
4:34:09PM THE TRIBUNE, THE BUILDING WAS THERE.
4:34:12PM WE ALL REMEMBER IT.
4:34:13PM GREAT.
4:34:15PM SO THIS WILL BE SET FOR OCTOBER FOR FIRST READING.
4:34:18PM WHO MADE THE MOTION?
4:34:20PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA OR
4:34:23PM CARLSON.
4:34:24PM SORRY, CARLSON IS THE SECOND.
4:34:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:34:26PM AYE.
4:34:27PM NEXT UP WE HAVE --
4:34:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SHE HAS ANOTHER ONE?
4:34:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UM-HUM.
4:34:38PM THIS IS FOR MIKE PHILLIPS.
4:34:42PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THIS IS FOR MICHAEL PHILLIPS.
4:34:45PM I WILL RECOGNIZE HIS MOTHER IN A MOMENT.
4:34:47PM MICHAEL PHILLIPS, AGAIN THIS WAS A MOTION FOR COUNCILMAN
4:34:51PM VIERA AND MICHAEL PHILLIPS, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS
4:34:55PM ALREADY TODAY ABOUT THE ADVANCEMENT AND WHAT WORK HAS BEEN
4:34:59PM DONE TO SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
4:35:02PM AND MICHAEL PHILLIPS WAS ONE OF THOSE EXTRAORDINARY PEOPLE.
4:35:05PM HE WENT TO PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AND STARTED HIS ACTIVISM VERY
4:35:10PM EARLY IN PLANT HIGH SCHOOL, HE PUSHED FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND
4:35:14PM SUPPORT WITHIN THE HIGH SCHOOL, ESPECIALLY FOR STUDENTS WITH
4:35:17PM DISABILITIES WHO HAD TO TAKE THEIR STATEWIDE EXAMS.
4:35:20PM HE ACTUALLY PETITIONED THEN PRESIDENT BUSH FOR SUPPORT ON
4:35:23PM THIS.
4:35:24PM AND HE GRADUATED FROM PLANT HIGH SCHOOL WHICH HE FELT WAS
4:35:29PM WITH THE SUPPORT OF HIS TEACHERS AND HIS PEERS AND ALWAYS
4:35:32PM VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT TIME AND THE OPPORTUNITIES AFFORDED
4:35:34PM TO HIM AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
4:35:36PM LATER HE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE FLORIDA ALLIANCE FOR
4:35:41PM ASSISTIVE SERVICES AND TECHNOLOGY TO BUILD AWARENESS ABOUT
4:35:43PM WHAT TOOLS COULD BE OUT THERE TO ASSIST AND MAKE ACCESS TO
4:35:48PM BOTH THE WORKFORCE AND REGULAR QUALITY OF LIFE AND DAILY
4:35:51PM LIVING FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
4:35:54PM AND UP UNTIL THE LAST OF HIS LIFE, HE WAS ALWAYS FIGHTING
4:35:57PM FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY COULD LIVE TO THEIR
4:36:01PM FULLEST.
4:36:01PM WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO END, IF COUNCILMAN VIERA WOULD
4:36:07PM LIKE TO.
4:36:07PM MRS. PHILLIPS IS MICHAEL PHILLIPS MOTHER.
4:36:10PM SHE HAS BEEN ADVOCATING FOR RECOGNITION FOR ALL THAT HER SON
4:36:14PM HAS DONE AND ACCOMPLISHED.
4:36:15PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
4:36:16PM OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS VERY EMOTIONAL FOR ME, BUT WORDS MATTERED
4:36:22PM TO MIKE.
4:36:23PM AND THERE ARE WORDS TODAY IN OUR POLITICAL CLIMATE THAT ARE
4:36:27PM TRYING TO BE STOPPED, DIVERSITY, INCLUSION, ACCESSIBILITY.
4:36:32PM THESE WERE THINGS THAT MIKE FOUGHT FOR HIS ENTIRE LIFE.
4:36:36PM AS A CHILD, WE HAD TO CARRY HIM THROUGH FLIGHTS OF STAIRS IN
4:36:40PM HIS WHEELCHAIR OR GO THROUGH BACK DOORS OR KITCHENS OR
4:36:44PM SERVICE ELEVATORS.
4:36:45PM WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANY LONGER, AND THAT'S WHY I'M
4:36:49PM SO PROUD TO LIVE IN A CITY LIKE TAMPA WHERE YOU ALL, THIS
4:36:53PM ENTIRE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN HERE, YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT
4:36:57PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH WE ALSO NEED TO INCLUDE
4:36:59PM ACCESSIBILITY.
4:37:00PM YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT INCLUSION.
4:37:01PM YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT DIVERSITY.
4:37:03PM YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES.
4:37:06PM MY SON'S LEGACY MATTERS SO MUCH TO ME, AND I WANT IT TO
4:37:10PM MATTER TO YOU AS WELL.
4:37:12PM AND THAT'S WHY POLITICS MATTERED TO MIKE.
4:37:15PM HE UNDERSTOOD THE RELATIONSHIP TO NOT ONLY WHERE HE WENT TO
4:37:19PM SCHOOL, BUT WHAT HEALTH CARE HE RECEIVED AND ULTIMATELY
4:37:22PM WHERE HE EVEN LIVED.
4:37:24PM AND SO I JUST EXTEND IT TO YOU TO PLEASE, EVERY TIME YOU
4:37:29PM TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE
4:37:32PM AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE HOUSING WHICH I KNOW THAT
4:37:35PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS AS WELL AS VIERA.
4:37:39PM AND JUST REMEMBER THAT EVERYTHING, WORDS MATTER, AND FOR
4:37:44PM PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, USE THE WORD, SAY THE WORD, AND
4:37:48PM ALWAYS REMEMBER MY MIKE.
4:37:51PM AND I KNOW THAT THIS SIGN COULDN'T BE IN A BETTER PLACE,
4:37:54PM RIGHT ACROSS FROM PLANT HIGH SCHOOL WHERE THE FIRST TIME I
4:37:57PM MEN SUSSMAN, HE SAID TO ME STUPID RULES ARE FOR STUPID
4:38:01PM PEOPLE.
4:38:02PM HE EMBRACED MIKE THERE.
4:38:03PM MIKE OPENED THE DOOR FOR SO MANY OTHERS, NOT ONLY IN GOING
4:38:06PM TO PLANT HIGH SCHOOL, BUT IN TESTING AND SO MANY AREAS OF
4:38:11PM LIFE.
4:38:11PM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR RECOGNIZING MY MIKE.
4:38:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
4:38:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:38:17PM KAREN, YOU KNOW THAT WE LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
4:38:20PM ALL OF US DO.
4:38:21PM MIKE'S LEGACY IS JUST PHENOMENAL.
4:38:28PM IT IS.
4:38:30PM >> AND WE'RE NOT DONE.
4:38:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT WE'RE NOT DONE.
4:38:34PM >> WE'RE GOING TO BE RAISING FUNDS FOR ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUND
4:38:38PM EQUIPMENT.
4:38:38PM SO I KNOW I'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU AGAIN, AND I DO
4:38:42PM EXPECT THE SUPPORT OF ALL OF YOU IN THIS EFFORT BECAUSE WE
4:38:47PM REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERY PARK IN TAMPA HAS AN
4:38:51PM ACCESSIBLE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
4:38:52PM AND WITH YOUR HELP, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
4:38:56PM SO THANK YOU.
4:38:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU'LL NEVER BE DONE.
4:38:58PM MIKE STOOD UP FOR HUMAN DIGNITY, FOR RESPECT FOR ALL PEOPLE
4:39:03PM AND FOR THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IN MAKING SURE THAT THOSE WHO
4:39:07PM CAN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES, THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE A VOICE HAVE
4:39:10PM A VOICE.
4:39:11PM THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT, THAT WHEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR
4:39:14PM CAN'T ACHIEVE DIGNITY THROUGH FREE-MARKET MEANS, THAT
4:39:18PM GOVERNMENT HAS TO INTERVENE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE HAVE
4:39:21PM DIGNITY AND RESPECT.
4:39:22PM THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
4:39:23PM THAT'S WHAT MIKE FOUGHT FOR AND THAT'S WHAT YOU FIGHT FOR.
4:39:26PM THAT'S WHAT BRIAN, YOUR OTHER SON AND ONE DAY YOUR
4:39:29PM GRANDCHILDREN WILL FIGHT FOR THAT.
4:39:31PM AND YOU'VE BUILT SO MANY BRIDGES ON NOT JUST IN THE
4:39:34PM DEMOCRATIC PARTY, BUT YOU'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH FORMER
4:39:37PM GOVERNOR JEB BUSH BEFORE FOR DISABILITY ISSUES, REPUBLICANS,
4:39:42PM ET CETERA.
4:39:43PM BUT MIKE STOOD UP FOR THE IDEA THAT NO MATTER WHERE YOU COME
4:39:47PM FROM, THAT YOU'RE ENTITLED TO DIGNITY AND RESPECT AND
4:39:51PM SUPPORTING PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
4:39:54PM AN AMAZING JOURNEY THAT CONTINUES IN OUR COUNTRY, CONTINUES
4:39:57PM ECONOMICALLY, CONTINUES POLITICALLY, CONTINUES CULTURALLY BY
4:40:01PM HAVING A CULTURE THAT RESPECTS PEOPLE FOR WHO THEY ARE AND
4:40:05PM RESPECTS PARENTS WHO JUST WANT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR KIDS,
4:40:09PM REGARDLESS OF THEIR DISABILITIES.
4:40:11PM THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
4:40:13PM I KNOW WE'RE ALL PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS, AND WE'RE JUST SO
4:40:17PM PROUD OF THE JOURNEY THAT YOU CONTINUE TO MAKE.
4:40:19PM WE ALL LOVE YOU TO DEATH, TO DEATH.
4:40:23PM NEVER FORGET THAT.
4:40:23PM THANK YOU.
4:40:24PM >> I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE, I HOPE.
4:40:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'RE A HERO.
4:40:29PM I HOPE YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH YOU'RE RESPECTED AND ADMIRED.
4:40:33PM I MEAN, YOU SPEAK HERE AT CITY COUNCIL AND THEN YOU'RE ON
4:40:37PM NATIONAL TELEVISION.
4:40:38PM AND WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR YOUR SON AND WITH YOUR SON AND THE
4:40:45PM LEGACY LEFT BEHIND IS AMAZING WORK.
4:40:49PM YOU INSPIRE SO MANY PEOPLE.
4:40:51PM YOU ALWAYS HAVE.
4:40:52PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
4:40:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
4:40:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU TO YOU AND MIKE FOR INSPIRING ALL
4:41:01PM OF US AND INSPIRING OUR COMMUNITY TO BE BETTER AND TO MAKE
4:41:05PM SURE THAT WE PROTECT THE INTERESTS OF EVERYONE.
4:41:08PM WE LOST MIKE TOO SOON AND TOO QUICKLY.
4:41:12PM THAT WAS A VERY, VERY SAD TIME.
4:41:14PM JUST THINK OF ALL THE THINGS HE COULD HAVE ACCOMPLISHED
4:41:17PM SINCE THEN.
4:41:17PM YOU'RE CARRYING ON THE LEGACY AND YOU HAVE TRAINED ALL OF US
4:41:22PM AND TAUGHT US AND YOU HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE.
4:41:25PM AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
4:41:27PM THANK YOU FOR COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA FOR ALSO MAKING SURE THAT
4:41:31PM WE PAY ATTENTION THAT EVERYBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY FEELS
4:41:34PM WELCOMED AND INCLUDED.
4:41:35PM THANK YOU.
4:41:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
4:41:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH YOUR STORY.
4:41:41PM FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR A WHILE.
4:41:43PM I NOTICED YOUR DRESS AND I LIKE IT.
4:41:45PM SHE'S BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE WAITING TO SPEAK.
4:41:47PM AND NOW THAT I KNOW WHAT IT'S ABOUT, I JUST REALLY
4:41:51PM APPRECIATE THE STORY, VERY MOVING.
4:41:53PM I KNOW HE WOULD BE SO PROUD OF YOU.
4:41:55PM GO PANTHERS, BY THE WAY.
4:41:57PM JUST THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME SOMETHING TO BE ENLIGHTENED
4:42:02PM ABOUT AND TO HAVE A PASSION ABOUT AS I GO THROUGH THIS ROLE
4:42:08PM IN CONSIDERING THE ACCESSIBILITY HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WITH
4:42:13PM DISABILITIES.
4:42:13PM SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
4:42:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
4:42:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
4:42:18PM I ALSO WANT TO SAY THE SAME THING.
4:42:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THIS, BUT YOU
4:42:27PM AND I WERE TOGETHER WHEN AL GORE CAME TO TOWN IN YBOR CITY,
4:42:37PM ARIEL WAS ABOUT 7 OR 8.
4:42:39PM SHE'S 33 NOW.
4:42:40PM BUT HE WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
4:42:44PM THAT WAS HIS TOWN HALL MEETING AND WE WERE HIS SPECIAL
4:42:46PM GUEST.
4:42:47PM ME AND MY DAUGHTER AND YOU AND MIKE.
4:42:49PM I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT TO YOUR MEMORY.
4:42:52PM IT WAS IN YBOR CITY.
4:42:53PM THEY HAVE TORN DOWN THAT PART OF THE BUILDING NOW AND
4:42:55PM RENOVATED IT.
4:42:56PM DO YOU REMEMBER THAT?
4:42:57PM >> THAT'S WHEN MIKE ASKED HIM IF HE WAS A MAC OR PC MAN.
4:43:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EXACTLY.
4:43:03PM >> IT OPENED SO MANY DOORS FOR MIKE.
4:43:06PM THAT'S WHEN APPLE COMPUTER, WE RAN INTO THEM AT ANOTHER
4:43:09PM CONFERENCE AND SAID, MIKE, WHAT DO YOU WANT?
4:43:11PM 27-INCH DISPLAY AND THAT'S WHAT THEY SENT HIM.
4:43:17PM MY MIKE WAS THE LAST APPLE MASTER WHICH WAS A DISTINCTION
4:43:20PM THAT APPLE BESTOWED ON PEOPLE THAT THEY FELT WERE AT THE TOP
4:43:23PM OF THEIR FIELD BUT ALSO USED APPLE COMPUTERS.
4:43:26PM SO MY MIKE WAS THE YOUNGEST AND THE ONLY DISABLED APPLE
4:43:30PM MASTER.
4:43:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT ALL CAME BACK TO ME AS YOU WERE
4:43:34PM PRESENTING TODAY.
4:43:35PM I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND I REMEMBERED THAT.
4:43:39PM THE QUESTION FOR ARIEL, BECAUSE THE COLUMBINE SHOOTING HAD
4:43:42PM TAKEN PLACE AND I REMEMBER HIM ASKING HER HOW DID SHE FEEL
4:43:46PM ABOUT THAT AT SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS OLD.
4:43:50PM SHE SAID SOMETHING CRAZY, IT COULD HAPPEN AGAIN AND WE KNOW
4:43:54PM THAT HAS BEEN TRUE.
4:43:55PM WE HAD THAT MOMENT TOGETHER.
4:43:56PM AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
4:43:58PM >> THANK YOU.
4:43:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALSO WANTED TO THANK YOU.
4:44:01PM WHEN I TAUGHT STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES WHERE SOME OF THE
4:44:08PM ONES THAT GRAVITATED TOWARD MY CLASS THAT WE WORKED VERY
4:44:12PM HARD FOR AND WITH THE TESTING AND THE -- ALL OF THE
4:44:18PM DIFFERENT ACCOMMODATIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED, AND IT'S SO NICE
4:44:23PM TO HEAR THE STORY OF SOMEONE WHO WAS A TRAILBLAZER FOR THAT.
4:44:26PM SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THANK YOU FOR MY
4:44:30PM STUDENTS AND THOSE WHO CAME AFTER HIM BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE,
4:44:33PM HUGE DEAL FOR THOSE KIDS.
4:44:40PM YOU HAVE TO DO THAT WORK SO THEY HAVE THE ACCOMMODATIONS
4:44:42PM THAT MAKE THEM AS COMFORTABLE AS POSSIBLE WITH SOMETHING
4:44:45PM THAT'S NOT FUN FOR ANYONE.
4:44:46PM I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS RENAMING AND MORE THINGS THAT
4:44:53PM ARE TO COME.
4:44:54PM BUT ESPECIALLY WITH THE ACCESSIBLE HOUSING.
4:44:58PM CERTAINLY SOMETHING AS WE START TO BUILD MORE AND MORE
4:45:03PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS, AS THE CITY BECOMES INVOLVED WITH
4:45:07PM SOME OF THAT, WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE
4:45:10PM ACCESSIBLE FOR EVERYONE.
4:45:12PM SO THANK YOU FOR THAT REMINDER.
4:45:14PM >> IT'S NOT JUST INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES, IT ALLOWS
4:45:16PM OUR SENIORS TO AGE IN PLACE.
4:45:19PM WHEN THEY ARE ABLE TO AGE IN PLACE, IT WILL SAVE THEIR
4:45:22PM FAMILIES FROM LOSING THEIR HOMES AND EVERYTHING FOR THEM
4:45:27PM WINDING UP IN NURSING HOMES WHERE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE.
4:45:29PM SO WHEN WE BUILD AGE IN PLACE, IT IS HELPING GENERATIONS OF
4:45:33PM PEOPLE.
4:45:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
4:45:38PM WHEN DO WE NEED THIS TO COME FOR FIRST READING?
4:45:43PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: FOR THIS ONE, IF WE CAN HAVE IT FOR
4:45:45PM FIRST READING ON AUGUST 24th.
4:45:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
4:45:49PM VIERA.
4:45:50PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
4:45:50PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
4:45:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:45:54PM AYE.
4:45:55PM CONGRATULATIONS.
4:45:56PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
4:46:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOUR LAST NAME IS AMMANN?
4:46:06PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: BECAUSE OF THE HOUR OF THE DAY, SHE HAD
4:46:10PM ANOTHER MEETING TO BE IN TODAY.
4:46:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT NAMING.
4:46:16PM ALL THE THINGS WE DISCUSSED, DID THAT FALL UNDER THE MAYOR'S
4:46:20PM EXECUTIVE ORDER FOR NAMING?
4:46:22PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: ONCE THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THEIR
4:46:25PM ORDINANCE, THE MAYOR'S PROCESS WENT AWAY WITH HER EXECUTIVE
4:46:29PM ORDER.
4:46:29PM SHE COMES INTO THE PROCESS PER YOUR ORDINANCE 23-63 AND WE
4:46:34PM CAN SEND THAT TO YOUR OFFICE IF YOU NEED A COPY ALSO.
4:46:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, PLEASE.
4:46:39PM I WAS VERY CONFUSED ABOUT ITEM 62.
4:46:41PM I KNOW IT'S CONTINUED TO APRIL 24 BUT THE RENAMING AND
4:46:44PM READING THE EXECUTIVE ORDER, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.
4:46:47PM I KNOW IT'S CONTINUED WHICH IS GREAT.
4:46:51PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THE ONE WITH MR. URBANSKI, IT SAYS IN
4:46:54PM YOUR ORDINANCE THAT IF IT DOES NOT MEET ALL OF THE CRITERIA
4:47:00PM AND ONE OF THE CRITERIA, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE CITY ASSET
4:47:03PM NAMED AFTER YOU, THEN YOU NEED BOTH THE MAYOR TO APPROVE AND
4:47:07PM CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE.
4:47:09PM WE'RE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL FIRST.
4:47:12PM ONCE WE SET IT FOR FIRST READING, THAT SENDS AN INDICATION
4:47:16PM TO THE MAYOR THAT, YES, THAT'S YOUR PLEASURE.
4:47:19PM SHE WILL THEN REVIEW IT NEXT AND THEN SHE WILL PASS AN
4:47:24PM EXECUTIVE ORDER AT THE SAME TIME YOU ARE BRINGING IT FORTH
4:47:27PM FOR YOUR READING.
4:47:28PM BOTH OF YOU WILL BE APPROVING ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT MEET
4:47:31PM THE ORDINANCE BASED ON THE CRITERIA THAT YOU SET OUT IN YOUR
4:47:33PM ORDINANCE.
4:47:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS WAS THE MR. GAMBREL ONE THAT I WAS
4:47:41PM ASKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S OKAY.
4:47:42PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THE ISSUE WITH MR. GAMBREL WAS THE
4:47:47PM RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT WE NAME SOMETHING -- FAIR OAKS, WE
4:47:51PM WERE TALKING ABOUT FOREST HILLS.
4:47:53PM I HAD TOO MANY LETTERS IN MY HEAD.
4:47:55PM FOR FAIR OAKS, AT THE NEW COMPLEX, IT'S NOT DESIGNED YET.
4:48:01PM AT THE END OF THIS, I'LL BE ASKING FOR THE OTHER RENAMINGS
4:48:04PM TO SET DATES.
4:48:05PM ONE IS ALSO FOR MOSES WHITE.
4:48:06PM AND THAT MOTION WAS ALSO FOR THE FAIR OAKS COMPLEX, THE NEW
4:48:10PM COMPLEX.
4:48:10PM IT'S NOT DESIGNED YET.
4:48:12PM PARKS AND REC CAN'T COME BACK TO YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION.
4:48:16PM WE'LL HAVE A DESIGN IN APRIL.
4:48:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS THERE COMMUNITY INPUT IN ANY OF THESE
4:48:21PM NAMINGS?
4:48:22PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: YES.
4:48:23PM THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
4:48:26PM FOR ALL OF THESE, YOUR ORDINANCE SAYS WE WILL POST IT FOR
4:48:29PM TWO WEEKS ON OUR WEBSITE.
4:48:31PM AS OF THE END OF JUNE, WE DO HAVE A WEBSITE UP AND RUNNING
4:48:35PM WHERE PEOPLE CAN PUT IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
4:48:38PM SINCE THE END OF JUNE, ALL OF THE EARLY ONES HAVE BEEN ON
4:48:40PM THE WEBSITE.
4:48:41PM SO FOR ANYBODY LISTENING, IF THEY WANT TO PUT IN ANY INPUT
4:48:46PM FOR SALVADOR MARTINEZ YBOR OR FOR MICHAEL PHILLIPS, WE WILL
4:48:51PM TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT UNTIL AUGUST 3rd AND THAT GIVES US
4:48:54PM TIME THEN TO GET IT INTO THE SYSTEM FOR YOU FOR THE AUGUST
4:48:59PM 24.
4:48:59PM AS I ASK FOR EACH OF THE OTHER DATES, THE OPENING PERIOD,
4:49:03PM IT'S A MINIMUM OF TWO WEEKS.
4:49:05PM MOST OF THESE AROUND US 30 DAYS, IF NOT MORE.
4:49:07PM THESE EARLY ONES, AGAIN, WILL STAY UP UNTIL WE GET CLOSE TO
4:49:11PM THE PRESENTATION DATE AND THEY ARE ALREADY POSTED ON OUR
4:49:14PM WEBSITE.
4:49:14PM SO THERE IS A COMMENT FORM.
4:49:16PM PEOPLE JUST SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS.
4:49:17PM THEY WILL GET E-MAILED TO US AND WE CAN SUPPLY THAT TO YOU
4:49:20PM JUST LIKE YOU GET ON YOUR ZONING ISSUES.
4:49:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
4:49:26PM I'LL WAIT FOR THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD SEND
4:49:29PM MY OFFICE.
4:49:30PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WILL SEND IT AS SOON AS I GET BACK.
4:49:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU WERE HERE WHEN -- I CAN'T TALK TO YOU
4:49:39PM ABOUT THIS AFTER WE WALK OUT THE DOOR.
4:49:41PM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO SOME FOLKS ON COUNCIL RECOMMENDED SOME
4:49:43PM NAMINGS AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE PUT IT ON HOLD AND SAID WHY
4:49:47PM DON'T WE CREATE A COMMITTEE TO CREATE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA.
4:49:50PM AND THERE'S SOME CRITERIA FOR THINGS YOU CAN NAME IF SOMEONE
4:49:54PM IS STILL ALIVE AND IF THEY ARE NOT ALIVE.
4:49:56PM AND THEN WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT, THE MAYOR AND LEGAL
4:50:00PM DEPARTMENT PROPOSED THAT AS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER AND THEN
4:50:03PM THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHO HAD THE POWER IN
4:50:06PM THE CHARTER TO NAME BUILDINGS.
4:50:09PM THE AGREEMENT IN THE END WAS THAT WE WOULD DO IT BY AN
4:50:12PM EXECUTIVE ORDER AND AN ORDINANCE.
4:50:14PM WHAT WE AGREED TO IS WE BOTH HAVE THAT POWER.
4:50:17PM AND THE MAYOR OR CITY COUNCIL CAN NAME SOMETHING IF WE
4:50:21PM FOLLOW THE RULES, IF SOMETHING GOES OUTSIDE THE RULES, THEN
4:50:24PM BOTH HAVE TO APPROVE IT.
4:50:25PM THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO READ.
4:50:27PM THAT'S WHY IT'S CONFUSING.
4:50:32PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I WANT TO POINT OUT FOR MR. PHILLIPS,
4:50:35PM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDED AT THE CORNER OF -- I
4:50:42PM HAD IT WRITTEN DOWN HERE, HIMES AND SAN JOSE RIGHT THERE AT
4:50:45PM THAT SIGN, THERE AREN'T VERY MANY GOOD INTERSECTIONS TO PUT
4:50:48PM THE SIGN.
4:50:49PM I DO WANT TO POINT OUT, THEIR RECOMMENDATION WAS FOR TWO
4:50:52PM YEARS.
4:50:52PM THE REASON FOR THAT IS PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY STARTED HEARING
4:50:56PM ABOUT THIS, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE COME OUT OF
4:50:59PM PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AND ASSOCIATE WITH PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AND
4:51:01PM VERY LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES.
4:51:03PM SO I JUST WANT TO BRING UP THAT PENDING ANY OTHER FURTHER
4:51:08PM DISCUSSION BY COUNCIL AND GIVING YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY TO
4:51:11PM CONSIDER THAT, RIGHT NOW MOBILITY IS RECOMMENDING FOR TWO
4:51:15PM YEARS, AND THAT CAN EITHER BE RENEWED AFTER TWO YEARS OR
4:51:18PM EXTENDED BY COUNCIL.
4:51:20PM BUT WE DO EXPECT THAT YOU WILL BE GETTING A LOT MORE
4:51:22PM REQUESTS ONCE THIS BECOMES KNOWN FOR NAMINGS AROUND PLANT
4:51:27PM HIGH SCHOOL.
4:51:28PM AND THERE JUST ARE NOT VERY MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT IN
4:51:31PM THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OF THE HIGH SCHOOL.
4:51:34PM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.
4:51:37PM LASTLY, IF I CAN INDULGE YOU, WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT --
4:51:42PM SEVERAL HONORARY NAMING MOTIONS THAT DID NOT HAVE DATES.
4:51:44PM IF I CAN REQUEST DATES FOR SOME OF THESE, THEN WE CAN MOVE
4:51:48PM FORWARD AND GET ALL OF THESE OLD ONES DONE BY THE FALL.
4:51:51PM WE ARE ASKING FOR THE STREET NAMING REQUEST FOR WALTER SMITH
4:51:54PM SENIOR, THE STREET NAMING REQUEST FOR J. CLIFFORD
4:51:57PM MacDONALD AND THE STREET NAMING REQUEST FOR PHIL ALESSI
4:52:01PM BE SET FOR PRESENTATION ON AUGUST 24th.
4:52:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:52:10PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: AUGUST 24.
4:52:12PM WE'RE SKIPPING SEPTEMBER.
4:52:13PM I'M NOT GOING TO ASK SEPTEMBER AT ALL.
4:52:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
4:52:20PM HURTAK.
4:52:21PM WHO WAS THE SECOND?
4:52:21PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:52:24PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:52:24PM AYE.
4:52:25PM YOU SAID PHIL ALESSI.
4:52:27PM >> PHIL ALESSI, J. CLIFFORD MacDONALD, AND WALTER SMITH
4:52:31PM SENIOR.
4:52:32PM YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN MAKING MOTIONS.
4:52:34PM I HAVE A FEW MORE.
4:52:35PM SANDY, ALSO KNOWN AS SANCHEZ, BUT SHE WANTS TO GO BY DEDIEGO
4:52:39PM NOW DUE TO A CHANGE IN HER STATUS.
4:52:41PM SO WE REQUEST THAT SANDY DEDIEGO, THAT WAS FOR A DOG PARK AT
4:52:46PM VILA BROTHERS PARK AND FOR THE COSENTINO PARK IN YBOR.
4:52:51PM IF THOSE TWO COULD BE SET FOR PRESENTATION FOR 10/19, WE'D
4:52:55PM APPRECIATE THAT.
4:52:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANOTHER GREAT SELECTION OF INDIVIDUALS.
4:52:59PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
4:53:00PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:53:01PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:53:02PM AYE.
4:53:02PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:53:10PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: ONE LAST ONE, MOSES WHITE.
4:53:13PM FAIR OAKS NEW COMPLEX, IF WE COULD SET THAT PRESENTATION FOR
4:53:16PM APRIL 4th, 2024, THAT'S OUR LAST ONE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO
4:53:20PM WRAP UP.
4:53:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
4:53:22PM MIRANDA.
4:53:23PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
4:53:24PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
4:53:26PM I'LL TELL THE FAMILY.
4:53:28PM I'LL TELL HIS GRANDSON.
4:53:29PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:53:30PM AYE.
4:53:31PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:53:31PM NAMING CITY HALL LUIS VIERA MUNICIPAL BUILDING.
4:53:39PM [ LAUGHTER ]
4:53:39PM ANYTHING ELSE?
4:53:40PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:53:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:53:42PM ALL RIGHT.
4:53:45PM WE NOW GO TO ITEM NUMBER 66.
4:53:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: ON THIS ONE, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK
4:53:54PM THE STAFF TO GIVE US AN -- JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE
4:53:57PM MOTION.
4:53:57PM MAKE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON THE JACKSON
4:54:00PM HOUSE ON AUGUST 24st.
4:54:02PM AND THEN -- 24th.
4:54:04PM THEN A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
4:54:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:54:08PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:54:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:54:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO ASK MORRIS A COUPLE OF
4:54:15PM QUESTIONS.
4:54:16PM THANK YOU FOR STAYING SO LONG.
4:54:17PM I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THESE THINGS BUT I WANT TO GET ON THE
4:54:20PM RECORD GENERIC ANSWERS.
4:54:22PM NOT EVEN ASKING YOU FOR SPECIFIC ADVICE RELATED TO THIS
4:54:25PM PARTICULAR SITUATION OR ANY OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED.
4:54:29PM BUT JUST SO WE ALL HAVE THE INFORMATION AND PUBLIC HAS
4:54:33PM INFORMATION, GENERICALLY, IN 30 SECONDS, COULD YOU TELL US
4:54:39PM WHAT THE RULES ARE AROUND EMINENT DOMAIN.
4:54:43PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
4:54:48PM IF THE CITY WANTS TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY FROM EMINENT DOMAIN,
4:54:51PM GENERALLY WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS FIRST OF ALL GET AN
4:54:53PM APPRAISAL OF THE PROPERTY.
4:54:54PM THEN WE ARE MANDATED BY STATE LAW TO UNDERGO PRE-SUIT
4:54:58PM NEGOTIATION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO SEE IF WE CAN COME UP
4:55:01PM WITH A VOLUNTARY SALE OF THE PROPERTY.
4:55:03PM IF THAT FAILS, THEN WE CAN GO TO COURT AND SEEK AN ORDER OF
4:55:06PM TAKING.
4:55:07PM THERE IS A PROCESS CALLED A QUICK TAKE WHERE WE COULD
4:55:09PM ACTUALLY TAKE TITLE BEFORE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY IS
4:55:12PM AGREED UPON OR ESTABLISHED BY THE COURT, AND YOU WOULD TAKE
4:55:16PM TITLE AND THEN THE VALUE IS ESTABLISHED AFTER THE FACT.
4:55:18PM THE OTHER PROCESS IS YOU GET TITLE AND THE VALUE AT THE SAME
4:55:21PM TIME THROUGH A JUDICIAL PROCESS.
4:55:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND QUESTION IS, THERE IS A DIFFERENT
4:55:30PM WORD, BUT I THINK OF IT AS CONDEMNATION.
4:55:32PM CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN -- JUST GENERICALLY WHAT THAT
4:55:36PM PROCESS.
4:55:36PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO,
4:55:39PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IS THE CITY THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT OF
4:55:43PM NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT OR CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS THE ABILITY
4:55:46PM TO ISSUE ORDERS TO DEMOLISH UNSAFE STRUCTURES, AND THEN
4:55:51PM ASSESS THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE COST OF THE DEMOLITION OF
4:55:55PM THAT BUILDING.
4:55:56PM IF THEY DO NOT PAY THOSE COSTS, THEN WE HAVE A LIEN ON THE
4:56:00PM PROPERTY FOR THAT DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE AND WE CAN
4:56:04PM FORECLOSE THAT LIEN AND ACQUIRE PROPERTY.
4:56:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN THE CASE OF A DEMOLITION, IS IT POSSIBLE
4:56:10PM TO DO IT -- IF IT HAPPENS TO BE AN ARCHITECTURALLY
4:56:14PM SIGNIFICANT BUILDING OR ARCHAEOLOGICAL SITE, POSSIBLE TO GET
4:56:18PM EXPERTS LIKE USF OR TAMPA HISTORY CENTER TO COME AND --
4:56:21PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DO KNOW THE ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT
4:56:23PM BEFORE WE DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE, HAS TO BE APPROVED BY A
4:56:26PM DEMOLITION TEAM.
4:56:28PM IF IT IS AN HISTORICAL LANDMARK STRUCTURE LIKE THE JACKSON
4:56:31PM HOUSE, IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT OUR ARCHITECTURAL STAFF
4:56:36PM FERNANDEZ BE INVOLVED IN THE ASSESSMENT OF THAT.
4:56:38PM SO THAT PROBABLY WOULD INCLUDE THAT IN THE EFFORT.
4:56:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
4:56:42PM I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT.
4:56:45PM WE CAN TALK MORE.
4:56:46PM THANK YOU.
4:56:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:56:47PM TURNING THE PAGE, WE TOOK CARE OF 67.
4:56:57PM WE HAVE A MARTIN SHELBY TO PROVIDE A REPORT.
4:57:01PM SO YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF 68 AND 69 AND THAT WOULD
4:57:05PM COMPLETE OUR AGENDA.
4:57:07PM I'M SORRY.
4:57:07PM 69 IS COVERED.
4:57:10PM I'M SORRY, THAT'S RIGHT.
4:57:11PM WE MOVED IT UP.
4:57:12PM 68, MR. SHELBY.
4:57:14PM YES, SIR.
4:57:15PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
4:57:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
4:57:19PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
4:57:21PM WE'LL MAKE THIS BRIEF.
4:57:22PM I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT WORKING CLOSELY WITH CITY
4:57:25PM ATTORNEY ANDREA ZELMAN AND CHIEF OF STAFF JOHN BENNETT AND
4:57:29PM WITH THE INVOLVEMENT OF COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THANK YOU VERY
4:57:32PM MUCH, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE PROGRESS TO BE ABLE TO CREATE
4:57:35PM A FRAMEWORK THAT WE CAN BRING TO YOU TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES
4:57:41PM OF ASSURING THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PROTECTED FROM THE
4:57:46PM THREAT OF LITIGATION, CERTAINLY WITHIN STATE LAW.
4:57:49PM RATHER THAN TAKE THE TIME, BUT WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE STEWARDS
4:57:52PM OF THE PUBLIC TRUST AND MONEY HAS TO BE EXPENDED FOR THE
4:57:57PM PROPER PURPOSE.
4:57:58PM BUT THAT BEING SAID AND WITHOUT GOING TOO MUCH INTO DEPTH,
4:58:01PM WHAT IT WILL ALLOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN DECISION POINTS THAT
4:58:05PM WE STILL HAVE TO WORK ON THE FRAMEWORK.
4:58:07PM ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE WHETHER IT'S A POLICY OR AN
4:58:10PM ORDINANCE.
4:58:11PM THAT COULD BE COUNCIL'S DETERMINATION.
4:58:13PM IT WILL GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, ELECTED
4:58:17PM OFFICIALS, COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, TO HAVE ACCESS TO LEGAL
4:58:22PM REPRESENTATION, LEGAL ADVICE, CONSULTATION EARLY IN THE
4:58:26PM PROCESS.
4:58:26PM CERTAINLY, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS, THEN THE PROCESS
4:58:33PM WILL BEGIN AND YOU WILL HAVE THE ACCESS TO, AND WE'LL HAVE
4:58:36PM DETERMINED HOW IT WORKS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE LEGAL
4:58:39PM DEPARTMENT OR OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
4:58:43PM THERE WILL BE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AN ASSESSMENT AT
4:58:47PM DIFFERENT MILESTONES.
4:58:49PM WE HAVE TO DETERMINE THE FEE PARAMETERS FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
4:58:53PM WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT A CAP FOR CITY-FUNDED LEGAL EXPENSES.
4:58:57PM ULTIMATELY WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IS THIS IS GOING TO
4:59:01PM CREATE A FRAMEWORK WHERE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC
4:59:05PM WILL KNOW THAT -- WHAT WILL HAPPEN, IS THERE WILL BE A
4:59:12PM MECHANISM IN PLACE TO AVOID WHAT THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT
4:59:16PM CALLED THE CHILLING EFFECT THAT A DENIAL OF REPRESENTATION
4:59:19PM MIGHT HAVE ON PUBLIC OFFICIALS IN PERFORMING THEIR DUTIES
4:59:23PM PROPERLY AND DILIGENTLY.
4:59:25PM CERTAINLY THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS.
4:59:27PM THE PUBLIC KNOWS WHY.
4:59:30PM THEY VOTED TO HAVE CITY COUNCIL SIT UP THERE AND THEY WANT
4:59:33PM THEM TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR THE RIGHT REASONS
4:59:36PM WITHOUT FEAR OF HAVING TO FACE FINANCIAL DIFFICULTIES AS A
4:59:43PM RESULT OF LITIGATION.
4:59:44PM WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE IS AND WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE
4:59:48PM CITY ATTORNEY AND CHIEF OF STAFF, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE
4:59:52PM CITY'S SELF-INSURED SYSTEM, WHERE THE CITY IN EFFECT IS
4:59:56PM SELF-INSURED UP TO $500,000 AND EXCESS COVERAGE POLICY, WE
5:00:01PM CAN WORK WITHIN THAT.
5:00:02PM THERE WILL BE CHECKS ON THE SYSTEM.
5:00:05PM ONE OF THE PROPOSALS IS TO ACTUALLY HAVE IT TO THE POINT
5:00:08PM WHERE ON A CERTAIN PERIODIC BASIS IT'S REVIEWED BY CITY
5:00:12PM COUNCIL.
5:00:12PM SO THE DECISION IS NOT MADE NECESSARILY BY ONE PERSON IN THE
5:00:16PM ADMINISTRATION OR BY THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT OR BY RISK
5:00:18PM MANAGEMENT BUT THE THING IS IT COULD BE A COMPREHENSIVE WAY
5:00:22PM TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE, TO RESOLVE THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN
5:00:25PM EXPRESSED BY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE CONCERNED THAT
5:00:28PM THE CITY COUNCIL NEEDS TO HAVE THE COMFORT AND THE PUBLIC
5:00:33PM NEEDS TO HAVE THE ASSURANCE THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ABLE
5:00:35PM TO SERVE THEM WITHOUT CONCERN OR FEAR OF LEGAL PROCESS.
5:00:43PM CERTAINLY, OBVIOUSLY, LAST THING I'LL SAY, THERE'S ALWAYS
5:00:47PM THE REIMBURSEMENT PROCESS AT THE END OF THE PROCESS, BUT
5:00:51PM WHAT THIS DOES IS IT PROVIDES A SENSE OF SECURITY IN THE
5:00:58PM SENSE THAT KNOWING THAT YOU'RE NOT OUT THERE ALONE, THAT THE
5:01:00PM CITY WILL HAVE YOUR BACK.
5:01:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
5:01:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THE THANKS TO THE
5:01:13PM CITY ATTORNEY ZELMAN AND CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT AND, OF
5:01:17PM COURSE, MARTY AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO WAS INVOLVED.
5:01:20PM WE SPOKE -- WE'VE SPOKEN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF OR SO
5:01:24PM ABOUT MANY DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF WHAT COULD BE DONE AND NO
5:01:28PM SOLUTION IS PERFECT.
5:01:29PM WE WENT BACK AND FORTH A BUNCH OF TIMES AND MAYBE YOU ALL
5:01:32PM DID, TOO.
5:01:34PM FINALLY, SOMEBODY, CHIEF BENNETT OR MS. ZELMAN HAD EPIPHANY
5:01:39PM THE OTHER DAY WHEN WE MET AND CAME UP WITH AN IDEA THAT I
5:01:43PM THINK FITS.
5:01:45PM SO THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR WORKING ON THAT.
5:01:48PM JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS, WHAT WE DISCOVERED THROUGH THE
5:01:52PM LONG CONVERSATIONS THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THERE IS A
5:01:56PM POLICY ABOVE 500,000 AND SELF-INSURED UNDER 500,000, BUT THE
5:02:01PM SAME POLICY ABOVE 500,000 DOES NOT APPLY BELOW 500,000.
5:02:06PM IT'S BEEN UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
5:02:09PM SO WHAT THIS DOES IS IT SENDS IT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL AND
5:02:13PM STILL WE CAN GET THE ADVICE OF THE CITY ATTORNEY BUT CITY
5:02:16PM COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO DECIDE.
5:02:17PM IF YOU LOOK AT CASES LIKE WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
5:02:20PM COMMISSION AND OTHERS, THEY DO THE SAME THING WHEN THERE ARE
5:02:25PM LAWSUITS AND THEY ARE HAVING TO DO THAT.
5:02:26PM IT WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO BRING IT
5:02:30PM BEFORE OUR PEERS, BUT STILL IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE FILTER
5:02:33PM OF HAVING SEVEN ELECTED OFFICIALS LOOK AT IT AND MAYBE FOUR
5:02:36PM VOTES.
5:02:37PM THE OTHER THING IS, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO
5:02:41PM DO ABOUT EXTENSIVE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS THAT REQUIRE
5:02:45PM LEGAL REPRESENTATION, BUT I SHOULD SAY, AS I UNDERSTAND, IT
5:02:50PM DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY KIND OF PLAINTIFF ATTORNEYS.
5:02:52PM SO IF ONE OF US WANTED TO SUE SOMEBODY FOR SLANDER OR
5:02:56PM DEFAMATION, WE HAVE TO DO THAT ON OUR OWN.
5:02:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS FOR LEGAL DEFENSE.
5:03:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT WOULD ONLY BE LEGAL DEFENSE.
5:03:03PM ANYWAY, I THINK IT IS A GOOD SOLUTION AND I THINK CHIEF OF
5:03:07PM STAFF IS WORKING ON THIS, BUT THERE WILL BE SOME STEP-UP.
5:03:12PM WOULDN'T BE YOU AUTOMATICALLY HAVE AN OPEN TICKET.
5:03:14PM CITY COUNCIL APPROVE IT UP TO CERTAIN INCREMENTS AT A TIME
5:03:17PM WITH THE CHANCE TO REVIEW AT DIFFERENT INCREMENTS ALONG THE
5:03:21PM WAY.
5:03:22PM THANKS TO EVERYBODY FOR WORKING ON IT.
5:03:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST ONE MORE THING, IF THERE COMES A
5:03:27PM CERTAIN POINT IN TIME, CERTAINLY NOT WITH THIS COUNCIL, ANY
5:03:30PM FUTURE COUNCIL, IF AT SOME POINT IN TIME THERE IS A
5:03:33PM DETERMINATION THAT ULTIMATELY THE ELECTED OFFICIAL IS
5:03:36PM ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR WHATEVER THEY ARE CHARGED WITH,
5:03:43PM AND MONEY, PUBLIC MONEY HAS BEEN EXPENDED TOWARDS THAT, IT
5:03:47PM WOULD BE THE OBLIGATION, THE CITY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO
5:03:50PM RECOUP THAT MONEY, THE EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS FROM THAT
5:03:53PM ELECTED OFFICIAL.
5:03:55PM WHEN THAT DETERMINATION WOULD HAVE BEEN MADE.
5:03:57PM AND THAT COMES DOWN THE LINE WITH THE PERIODIC REVIEW.
5:04:01PM MS. ZELMAN, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THIS AND
5:04:04PM MOVING THIS ALONG.
5:04:05PM ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD?
5:04:06PM NO.
5:04:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE ALL THE CONVERSATION WE'VE
5:04:10PM HAD TODAY ON THIS.
5:04:15PM I'M VERY THOUGHTFUL OF THE IDEA.
5:04:18PM HOWEVER, I DON'T WANT A BLANK DEPOSIT FOR ME OR ANYBODY
5:04:21PM ELSE.
5:04:25PM IT'S A CRIME AND THEY ARE GOING TO PAY MY BILL.
5:04:27PM I THINK IT HAS TO BE SPECIFIC OF WHAT IT IS.
5:04:30PM IF I'M TOLD SOMETHING THAT I SHOULD DO BY WHATEVER AGENCY
5:04:37PM THAT I HAVE TO REPORT TO AND I DON'T SHOW THAT GOODWILL
5:04:40PM GOING TO THE AGENCY, WHATEVER THAT AGENCY MAY BE FOR
5:04:42PM QUESTIONING OR WHATEVER, AND I DON'T DO THAT, I DON'T EXPECT
5:04:45PM THE CITY OF TAMPA TO EVER, EVER GO OUT ON THE LIMB FOR ME.
5:04:50PM I'M JUST SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW.
5:04:53PM I GOT TO HAVE PARAMETERS OF WHAT IS AND WHAT'S NOT.
5:04:58PM IF NOT, I'M NOT VOTING FOR IT.
5:05:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I COULD SAY AT THE OUTSET THAT THE PROCESS
5:05:03PM WILL APPLY TO CIVIL LITIGATION, ETHICS PROCEEDINGS --
5:05:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DON'T HAVE TO TELL ME THAT NOW.
5:05:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT NOT IN CRIMINAL PROCEEDINGS.
5:05:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, COULD SOMEONE REJECT THE
5:05:16PM CITY STEPPING IN AND OFFERING LEGAL ASSISTANCE AND SAY, YOU
5:05:20PM KNOW, I DON'T WANT THE CITY -- I DON'T WANT PUBLIC MONEY TO
5:05:23PM COME TOWARDS THIS SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO?
5:05:25PM SO THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO OPT OUT OF IT.
5:05:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SURE, SURE.
5:05:30PM BY THE WAY, IF THERE COMES A TIME WHEN THERE IS A REASON FOR
5:05:33PM A DECISION OR A CONFLICT OR WHATEVER OR OUTSIDE COUNSEL IS
5:05:38PM NEEDED, OUTSIDE COUNSEL WILL BE AN OPTION.
5:05:41PM THEN AGAIN WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT CAPS ON FEES AND THE LIKE.
5:05:45PM CERTAINLY, AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU'RE STEWARDS OF THE PUBLIC
5:05:49PM TRUST AND YOU HAVE TO BE RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE TOWARDS
5:05:52PM THE EXPENDITURE OF PUBLIC FUNDS.
5:05:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I SAW YOUR HAND.
5:05:57PM NO.
5:06:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE A MOTION IF NOBODY HAS ANY MORE
5:06:03PM COMMENTS.
5:06:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT UNTIL NEW BUSINESS.
5:06:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HANDLE IT NOW.
5:06:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
5:06:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS WAS WRITTEN BY MS. ZELMAN AND MR.
5:06:12PM SHELBY, NOT ME.
5:06:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU FOR THAT CREDIT.
5:06:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST SO YOU KNOW.
5:06:18PM I MOVE THAT CITY COUNCIL ACCEPTS THE FRAMEWORK FOR THE LEGAL
5:06:21PM DEFENSE OF ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT'S BEEN PUT FORTH BY THE
5:06:25PM CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, THE CITY ATTORNEY, CHIEF OF STAFF
5:06:29PM WHICH PROCESS IS DESIGNED TO ENSURE ANY EXPENDITURE OF
5:06:33PM PUBLIC FUNDS FOR LEGAL EXPENSES IS CONSISTENT WITH FLORIDA
5:06:35PM LAW AVOIDING THE CHILLING EFFECT THAT A DENIAL OF
5:06:39PM REPRESENTATION MIGHT HAVE ON PUBLIC OFFICIALS IN PERFORMING
5:06:41PM THEIR DUTIES PROPERLY AND DILIGENTLY AND THAT THE CITY
5:06:43PM COUNCIL ATTORNEY AND THE CITY ATTORNEY PREPARE A POLICY OR
5:06:47PM ORDINANCE THAT WILL ADDRESS THE DETAILS OF THE PROPOSED
5:06:50PM FRAMEWORK FOR CONSIDERATION BY COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 7, 2023.
5:06:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
5:06:56PM CARLSON.
5:06:57PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
5:06:59PM DISCUSSION?
5:06:59PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
5:07:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AGAIN, I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK
5:07:03PM EVERYONE HAS DONE BUT I CAN'T VOTE ON IT UNTIL I SEE EXACTLY
5:07:07PM WHAT IS COVERED AND NOT COVERED.
5:07:08PM THAT'S VERY BROAD WHAT WAS JUST SPOKEN ABOUT.
5:07:11PM I WON'T VOTE ON SOMETHING I HAVEN'T SEEN, SO I'LL VOTE NO.
5:07:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, COUNCIL, GENERALLY, WE'RE NOT ASKING
5:07:18PM YOU TO SUBMIT BUT I UNDERSTAND, SIR.
5:07:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
5:07:22PM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
5:07:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
5:07:32PM >> VIERA?
5:07:32PM MIRANDA.
5:07:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
5:07:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
5:07:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:07:38PM >> CLENDENIN, MANISCALCO.
5:07:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
5:07:40PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO AND VIERA
5:07:42PM AND CLENDENIN ABSENT AT VOTE.
5:07:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU TO MR. SHELBY AND THE LEGAL
5:07:46PM DEPARTMENT AND MS. ZELMAN, MR. MASSEY, ANYBODY THAT'S
5:07:49PM INVOLVED FOR YOUR COLLABORATION AND YOUR HARD WORK ON THIS.
5:07:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
5:07:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT COMPLETES OUR AGENDA.
5:08:00PM WE CAN NOW GO INTO OUR EVENING SESSION, RIGHT, MR. SHELBY?
5:08:03PM NO.
5:08:03PM ALL RIGHT.
5:08:04PM LET'S GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
5:08:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NONE.
5:08:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
5:08:08PM THIS IS A GOOD ONE.
5:08:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
5:08:12PM THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
5:08:13PM I APPRECIATE IT.
5:08:14PM I MOVE THAT FREDERICK STANLEY McGRIFF, A 1981 GRADUATE AND
5:08:22PM HALL OF FAMER OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL FROM LINCOLN
5:08:25PM GARDENS RECEIVE A COMMENDATION FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR
5:08:28PM BEING UNANIMOUSLY ELECTED BY THE BASEBALL WRITERS
5:08:32PM ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA TO THE ULTIMATE FRATERNITY OF THE
5:08:36PM NATIONAL BASEBALL HALL OF FAME FOR HIS OUTSTANDING CAREER AS
5:08:40PM A HOME-RUN LEADER, SILVER SLUGGER, FIVE-STAR -- FIVE-TIME
5:08:46PM ALL-STAR AND WORLD SERIES CHAMPION, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
5:08:49PM DATE TO BE DETERMINED BY THE AVAILABILITY OF MR. McGRIFF.
5:08:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER --
5:09:03PM WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:09:05PM I'LL SUPPORT THIS, IF WE CAN ALSO DRAFT A LETTER TO PUT PETE
5:09:08PM ROSE IN THE HALL OF FAME.
5:09:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE'LL DO THAT LATER.
5:09:12PM SO -- THERE ARE FOUR INDIVIDUALS FROM TAMPA.
5:09:15PM THAT'S HISTORICAL.
5:09:16PM I DON'T THINK THERE'S FOUR FROM ANY CITY IN THE UNITED
5:09:18PM STATES OF AMERICA IN THE HALL OF FAME.
5:09:20PM THAT'S AL LOPEZ, FREDDY McGRIFF, WADE BOGGS AND TONY
5:09:24PM LaRUSSA.
5:09:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID TONY LaRUSSA GO TO JEFFERSON?
5:09:28PM >> YES.
5:09:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE.
5:09:29PM EVEN IN HIGH SCHOOL, YOU THINK, OH, TAMPA CATHOLIC, JESUIT,
5:09:34PM ALL THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
5:09:35PM EVERYTHING WAS JEFFERSON.
5:09:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I NEVER WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL.
5:09:38PM I WENT TO JEFFERSON.
5:09:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, HE SAID IT.
5:09:49PM ALL THE HALL OF FAMERS.
5:09:50PM WE HAVE A MOTION -- A LOT OF DRAGONS.
5:09:58PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:10:03PM AYE.
5:10:04PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:10:05PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ARE YOU AN AYE?
5:10:17PM >> ALL IN FAVOR.
5:10:18PM >> AYE.
5:10:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK I HAVE A SIGNED BASEBALL BY FRED
5:10:21PM McGRIFF SOMEWHERE.
5:10:24PM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
5:10:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A FEW, IF I MAY.
5:10:27PM I SENT MEMOS ON THIS.
5:10:29PM MOTION TO MOVE F.D.O.T. PRESENTATION ON BUSCH BOULEVARD
5:10:31PM SAFETY FROM AUGUST 3 TO OCTOBER 5.
5:10:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
5:10:36PM VIERA.
5:10:37PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, I BELIEVE.
5:10:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:10:40PM AYE.
5:10:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOTION FOR THE CAMP HOPETAKE COMMENDATION
5:10:45PM WITH DENALI THE BURN TALKING TO BE MOVED TO SEPTEMBER 21st
5:10:48PM MEETING.
5:10:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
5:10:50PM VIERA.
5:10:51PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:10:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:10:54PM AYE.
5:10:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOTION FOR THE ANNUAL STREETCAR REPORT FROM
5:10:56PM HART FOR THE OCTOBER 19th AGENDA.
5:10:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO MOVE IT TO OCTOBER 19th.
5:11:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
5:11:03PM I'M SORRY.
5:11:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WITH A MOTION.
5:11:05PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
5:11:07PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:11:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY, FOR MOTIONS, CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE REX
5:11:13PM BARBAS WHO MANY OF US KNOW IS RETIRING FROM THE BENCH.
5:11:16PM COUNCIL COMMENDATION ON SEPTEMBER 21st.
5:11:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ENTHUSIASTIC YES.
5:11:22PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:11:24PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:11:24PM AYE.
5:11:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY, NOT A MOTION BUT JUST I THINK MANY OF
5:11:28PM US READ WITH GREAT INTEREST THIS ARTICLE IN THE TAMPA BAY
5:11:32PM TIMES ON THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN
5:11:36PM WHICH SAID, QUOTE, THE COUNTY ALSO SHOULD BUILD 28 FIRE
5:11:40PM STATIONS IN THE COMING YEARS BECAUSE OF A GROWING POPULATION
5:11:42PM AND CONCERNS ABOUT HOW LONG IT TAKES TO RESPOND TO A LONGER
5:11:46PM EMERGENCY CALL LOG.
5:11:48PM I CITE THIS BECAUSE THIS IS THE KIND OF REPORT THAT WE
5:11:51PM SHOULD BE LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE YEAR WHICH SHOWS US HOW
5:11:54PM MANY FIRE STATIONS WE NEED, HOW MANY MORE COPS AND
5:11:56PM FIREFIGHTERS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE THAT WE NEED SO THAT WE CAN
5:12:00PM MAKE THE APPROPRIATE DECISION.
5:12:02PM THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY HAS AND THAT'S WHAT THIS BODY SHOULD
5:12:05PM HAVE EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
5:12:06PM I KNOW WE HAVE THAT COMING BACK, SO NO MORE MOTIONS NEEDED
5:12:09PM ON THAT.
5:12:10PM AGAIN, WHEN I SAW THIS AND THEN THE COUNTY'S DEBATE WHICH
5:12:13PM ULTIMATELY RESULTED IN THEIR NOT HAVING ADDITIONAL REVENUE
5:12:16PM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, I BELIEVE, I THINK IT HAPPENED TODAY OR
5:12:19PM YESTERDAY.
5:12:20PM IT'S A DEBATE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BUT WITH THE REPORT
5:12:24PM INFORMED BEFORE US.
5:12:25PM THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
5:12:27PM AND THAT'S IT.
5:12:28PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
5:12:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO MOTION.
5:12:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE IT COMING BACK.
5:12:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DID LOOK AT THIS AND THERE WAS A LOT
5:12:35PM OF ACTIVITY ON SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT IT.
5:12:37PM WHAT WAS IT, 50 NEW FIRE STATIONS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY?
5:12:41PM 28.
5:12:42PM OKAY, NOT 50.
5:12:43PM THEY CAN DO THE OTHER 32 IN TAMPA.
5:12:45PM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND I KNOW TAMPA FIRE, THE UNION,
5:12:50PM EVERYBODY SAW THAT, AND WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE,
5:12:54PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY GETS IT.
5:12:55PM THAT'S ANOTHER BIG DISCUSSION.
5:12:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS COMING BACK TO US, THE PUBLIC SAFETY
5:13:00PM MASTER PLAN.
5:13:01PM AGAIN, JUST, IF I MAY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
5:13:05PM WE HAVE A PARKS MASTER PLAN.
5:13:06PM WE HAVE A CLIMATE EQUITY MASTER PLAN.
5:13:08PM WE HAVE A MOBILITY MASTER PLAN.
5:13:10PM LET'S HAVE A REAL PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN WITH UPDATED
5:13:13PM NUMBERS.
5:13:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:13:16PM ANYTHING ELSE?
5:13:17PM YES, MA'AM.
5:13:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
5:13:19PM SPEAKING OF MOBILITY AND MOVES, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A
5:13:22PM MOTION TO DISCUSS MOBILITY NEEDS AND PRIORITIES AT THE
5:13:25PM PUBLIC WORKSHOP ON FEBRUARY 22nd, 2024.
5:13:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
5:13:30PM HURTAK.
5:13:31PM SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
5:13:32PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:13:33PM AYE.
5:13:34PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:13:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WORKED THIS OUT WITH VIK AND WE HAVE A
5:13:37PM PLAN.
5:13:38PM SO HE WANTS TO COME AND MAKE A WHOLE WORKSHOP ABOUT
5:13:42PM TRANSPORTATION AND OUR PRIORITIES.
5:13:44PM AFTER WE GET THE BUDGET DONE.
5:13:46PM SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE NELSON
5:13:50PM CONSTRUCTION COME BACK TO COUNCIL ON SEPTEMBER 7 AND GIVE US
5:13:53PM AN UPDATE ON THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS STORMWATER
5:13:55PM PROJECT.
5:13:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
5:13:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:13:58PM AYE.
5:13:58PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:13:59PM YES, MA'AM.
5:13:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THIS IS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WHO
5:14:03PM HAD TO LEAVE.
5:14:04PM THE AUGUST 3rd AGENDA HAS THE MAYOR SCHEDULED TO PRESENT
5:14:06PM THE BUDGET AS THE FIRST AGENDA ITEM.
5:14:08PM I WOULD LIKE TO ENSURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE TIME FOR THE
5:14:10PM PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION AS WELL AS ADEQUATE TIME TO
5:14:13PM CELEBRATE THE RECIPIENTS FOR OUR POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH
5:14:15PM AND ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
5:14:17PM SO I MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PRESENTATION OF THE
5:14:20PM POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH AND THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE
5:14:23PM MONTH FROM THE AUGUST 3rd REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING TO THE
5:14:26PM AUGUST 24th REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING AT 9 A.M. IN COUNCIL
5:14:30PM CHAMBERS.
5:14:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
5:14:32PM HURTAK.
5:14:32PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:14:35PM ALL --
5:14:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS MEANS THE MAYOR WILL GO FIRST.
5:14:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:14:38PM WE'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME --
5:14:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIKE AN HOUR PRESENTATION AND THE ROOM
5:14:42PM IS PACKED.
5:14:42PM BIG EVENT.
5:14:45PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:14:48PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:14:50PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:14:50PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:14:51PM YES, MA'AM.
5:14:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS IT.
5:14:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
5:14:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, SAME THING, AND THAT'S WHAT LISA WAS
5:14:57PM JUST TELLING ME IS THAT ON AUGUST 3rd, WHICH IS WHEN THE
5:15:02PM MAYOR IS PRESENTING, WE HAVE HART PRESENTING A REPORT ON
5:15:08PM THEIR ORGANIZATION PLAN.
5:15:09PM SORRY I LOST MY VOICE.
5:15:11PM SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE DISCUSSION -- IT
5:15:17PM SHOULD SAY I THINK TEN MINUTES, TO MOVE THE -- LIKE TO MAKE
5:15:21PM A MOTION TO MOVE THE TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION BY HART TO --
5:15:25PM FROM AUGUST 3rd TO OCTOBER 19th.
5:15:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU MAKE THAT MOTION ALREADY,
5:15:31PM COUNCILMAN VIERA?
5:15:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT WAS COUNCILMAN --
5:15:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
5:15:37PM CARLSON.
5:15:37PM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:15:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:15:40PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:15:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION, WHY MOVE IT SO
5:15:45PM FAR DOWN INTO OCTOBER WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE OVER THE BUDGET
5:15:48PM FOR THEM IN OUR NEXT MEETING?
5:15:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW.
5:15:51PM THIS IS WHAT LISA JUST GAVE ME.
5:15:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T FUND HART, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE
5:15:58PM IDEAS.
5:15:59PM RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE UNDER SUCH -- YOU ALL ARE REALLY MOVING
5:16:02PM A LOT OF STUFF AROUND.
5:16:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: SOMEBODY FROM STAFF ASKED ME ALSO THE MOTION
5:16:08PM DOES NOT INCLUDE A DESCRIPTION OF WHAT WE WANT.
5:16:11PM YOU TWO ARE ON THE BOARD AND VIERA IS THE CHAIR, BUT TO ME
5:16:16PM IT'S TEN MINUTES.
5:16:19PM PRETEND THAT WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HART AND THEY
5:16:22PM SHOULD JUST TALK TO US ABOUT IN TEN MINUTES WHAT ARE THEIR
5:16:25PM PRIORITIES, WHAT DO THEY WANT TO DO.
5:16:27PM WHAT WOULD THEY DO IF THEY HAD MORE MONEY, ET CETERA.
5:16:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: AGREED, THANK YOU, SIR.
5:16:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
5:16:34PM MR. SHELBY, ANYTHING?
5:16:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MS. EDWARDS IS THAT
5:16:39PM THE STREETCAR PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE COMING UP ON
5:16:42PM OCTOBER 19.
5:16:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID WE VOTE ON -- MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
5:16:50PM CARLSON, SECOND MR. MIRANDA.
5:16:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:16:53PM AYE.
5:16:54PM ANYTHING ELSE?
5:16:57PM >> [NOT SPEAKING INTO A MICROPHONE]
5:17:04PM -- YOUR AIDE SAID YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS ON THE SAME
5:17:07PM DAY THAT THE STREETCAR PRESENTATION WAS GOING.
5:17:10PM THAT'S WHY OCTOBER 19.
5:17:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR ME, HAPPY 80th BIRTHDAY TO MICK
5:17:17PM JAGGER.
5:17:18PM VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU ROLLING STONES FANS.
5:17:21PM 80 YEARS OLD.
5:17:22PM THAT'S IT.
5:17:23PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
5:17:24PM >> SO MOVED.
5:17:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECOND
5:17:27PM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
5:17:29PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:17:29PM AYE.
5:17:30PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
5:17:32PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
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