TAMPA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL CALL BUDGET WORKSHOP
MONDAY, AUGUST 14, 2023, 5:01 P.M.
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5:04:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD AFTERNOON.
5:04:37PM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP TO
5:04:40PM ORDER.
5:04:40PM IF WE COULD PLEASE STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
5:04:46PM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
5:05:00PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:05:01PM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
5:05:14PM IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL.
5:05:21PM >> CARLSON?
5:05:22PM HURTAK?
5:05:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
5:05:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
5:05:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT,.
5:05:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
5:05:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
5:05:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
5:05:31PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
5:05:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS WALKING IN.
5:05:35PM SO WE ARE COMPLETE.
5:05:38PM ALL RIGHT.
5:05:39PM AT THIS TIME, WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
5:05:41PM HOW MANY PEOPLE DO WE HAVE ONLINE THAT ARE REGISTERED?
5:05:43PM I KNOW THERE WERE FOUR THAT SIGNED UP, BUT HOW MANY ARE ON?
5:05:46PM JUST ONE.
5:05:47PM ALL RIGHT, WE'LL TAKE THAT INDIVIDUAL FIRST AND THEN WE'LL
5:05:50PM GO TO THE AUDIENCE THAT'S HERE.
5:05:52PM IS IT MR. RANDOLPH?
5:05:54PM GO AHEAD, MR. RANDOLPH.
5:05:56PM IF YOU CAN HEAR US, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
5:06:03PM >> MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
5:06:05PM I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA DEVELOPMENT.
5:06:09PM I WANT TO GIVE AN UPDATE.
5:06:11PM THE RESULTS SHOWS THAT CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE, SUBSTANCE
5:06:25PM ABUSE PROBLEMS, SENIORS AT RISK, ASKING THAT WE READ THROUGH
5:06:32PM IT BECAUSE -- THE NEXT SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS.
5:06:39PM [INAUDIBLE]
5:06:44PM CALLED THE STATE OF WEST TAMPA, CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITY.
5:06:47PM IT'S GOING TO FOCUS ON THE TECHNOLOGY, INITIATIVE, PUBLIC
5:06:53PM SAFETY, OUR HOME-BASED ECONOMIC INITIATIVE.
5:06:59PM THE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CLASS GOING TO BE EIGHT WEEKS LONG,
5:07:08PM GOING TO START SEPTEMBER 15.
5:07:11PM USE THIS INITIATIVE -- [INAUDIBLE]
5:07:17PM THE LAST WORKSHOP COMING UP IS PROFESSIONAL -- WORKSHOP.
5:07:23PM THIS IS FOCUSED ON NONPROFITS IN WEST TAMPA.
5:07:28PM PROVIDE THEM --
5:07:35PM THIS IS GOING TO BE AN 8 TO 12 WEEK PROGRAM.
5:07:37PM STARTED SEPTEMBER 21st.
5:07:40PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:07:41PM APPRECIATE IT.
5:07:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:07:43PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S REGISTERED THAT'S ONLINE NOW?
5:07:45PM ALL RIGHT.
5:07:47PM WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
5:07:49PM FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SPEAK EITHER
5:07:52PM NOW OR AFTER WE HAVE OUR PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION.
5:07:57PM IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK NOW, PLEASE STAND, LINE UP, AND YOU'LL
5:08:01PM HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
5:08:02PM JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND THE SUBJECT MATTER, OF COURSE, IS
5:08:09PM THE UPCOMING BUDGET.
5:08:11PM YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
5:08:15PM >> HI.
5:08:15PM I'M CAROL BRYANT.
5:08:17PM THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TONIGHT.
5:08:19PM YOUR RESPONSIVENESS TO OUR CITIZENS' REQUEST IS ONE OF THE
5:08:24PM GREATEST THINGS YOU'VE DONE TO MAKE TAMPA THE NUMBER ONE
5:08:27PM PLACE TO LIVE IN FLORIDA.
5:08:28PM I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE HERE AS A 7th GENERATION FLORIDIAN.
5:08:33PM I'M HERE, THOUGH, BECAUSE I WANT TO ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED
5:08:36PM SUPPORT FOR THE LOCAL ARTS PROGRAMS IN THE PARKS AND REC
5:08:39PM DEPARTMENT.
5:08:39PM I KNOW THERE ARE MANY, MANY IMPORTANT NEEDS, BUT I RECENTLY
5:08:43PM -- AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SURPRISED.
5:08:46PM I'M A 27-YEAR USF HEALTH RESEARCHER AND I'VE HAD THIS
5:08:51PM POSITIVE EXPERIENCE WITH THE ART PROGRAMS HERE, SO I
5:08:53PM SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SURPRISED TO LEARN ABOUT A BRAND-NEW
5:08:56PM FIELD CALLED NEUROARTS OR NEUROAESTHETICS, BUT IT HAS JUST
5:09:01PM PROVEN WITH JUST INCREDIBLE DATA FROM M.I.T., JOHNS HOPKINS,
5:09:07PM AND OTHER UNIVERSITIES THE AMAZING IMPACT THAT THE ARTS HAS
5:09:12PM ON OUR BRAIN DEVELOPMENT, OUR PHYSICAL HEALTH, AND OUR
5:09:16PM MENTAL HEALTH.
5:09:16PM IN FACT, ESPECIALLY IN TODAY'S WORLD WITH SO MUCH LONELINESS
5:09:20PM AND ANXIETY, IT TURNS OUT THAT JUST 45 MINUTES, YOU DON'T
5:09:24PM HAVE TO ACTUALLY CREATE ART.
5:09:26PM JUST APPRECIATING WHAT THEY CALL BEHOLDING ART.
5:09:30PM 45 MINUTES A MONTH CAN LOWER DEPRESSION, LOWER ANXIETY AND
5:09:36PM ACTUALLY FOR OUR KIDS, INCREASES BRAIN DEVELOPMENT.
5:09:39PM SO IF YOU HAVE KIDS AT HOME, GET THEM IN THE ARTS AND
5:09:43PM THEY'LL DO BETTER SCHOLASTICALLY.
5:09:45PM I MEAN, WE'VE KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME ABOUT MUSIC AND HOW IT
5:09:48PM HELPS MATH, BUT IT TURNS OUT ALL KINDS OF ARTS WILL HELP
5:09:51PM BRAIN DEVELOPMENT.
5:09:52PM IF YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY WHO HAS HAD A STROKE,
5:09:59PM PARKINSON'S, STRUGGLING WITH DEMENTIA, YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW
5:10:03PM THAT THE MEDICAL WORLD IS USING ARTS AS PART OF THE
5:10:06PM REHABILITATION.
5:10:06PM AS A PATIENT AT MOFFITT, I HAVE NOTICED EACH TIME I GO THERE
5:10:10PM THAT THEY HAVE AN ART STUDIO RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE CLINIC
5:10:14PM WHERE I GO.
5:10:14PM AND YOU CAN DOODLE AND IT TURNS OUT IS ACTUALLY HELPS YOU BE
5:10:19PM HAPPIER, HEALTHIER, AND LIVE LONGER.
5:10:22PM I SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SURPRISED ABOUT THIS AS A RESEARCHER,
5:10:26PM BUT I WAS.
5:10:26PM I ALWAYS THOUGHT OF ARTS AS JUST A HOBBY I WANTED TO DO WHEN
5:10:30PM I RETIRED.
5:10:30PM BELIEVE ME, IT IS FUN, BUT IT TURNS OUT IT IS A RECIPE FOR A
5:10:34PM BETTER LIFE AND FOR A BETTER THRIVING TAMPA.
5:10:38PM SO WHAT I'M HERE TONIGHT FOR BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO PART-TIME
5:10:42PM POSITIONS PROPOSED IN THE CUTS FOR THE TAYLOR ART STUDIO AND
5:10:46PM THE JCC.
5:10:49PM THE CUTS COULDN'T COME AT A WORST TIME, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF
5:10:54PM THE BENEFITS WE KNOW ABOUT THE PROGRAMS, BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE
5:10:56PM ARE SIGNING UP FOR THE PROGRAMS IN DROVES.
5:11:00PM JUST AT TAYLOR THERE IS A WAITING LIST OF 128 PEOPLE FOR
5:11:05PM POTTERY, 54 FOR GLASS AND ONLY ROOM FOR ONE OUT OF NINE
5:11:10PM TAMPA CITIZENS WHO WANT TO TAKE THEIR OTHER COURSES.
5:11:13PM WE REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER THESE PROGRAMS AND TO OFFSET
5:11:22PM THOSE COSTS, I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE
5:11:25PM AND I RECOMMEND PARKS AND REC RAISES THE FEES.
5:11:29PM THEY ARE VERY, VERY LOW.
5:11:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:11:31PM >> SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING ME TONIGHT.
5:11:34PM BYE-BYE.
5:11:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:11:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
5:11:40PM JUST A REMINDER FOR THOSE PEOPLE WILLING TO SPEAK OR WANTING
5:11:43PM TO SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, YOU CAN CHOOSE TO
5:11:46PM EITHER SPEAK NOW OR LATER ON AFTER THE COUNCIL'S
5:11:48PM PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION.
5:11:49PM BUT YOU'LL ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES.
5:11:52PM IF YOU TAKE THE TIME NOW, THAT WILL BE YOUR OPPORTUNITY FOR
5:11:55PM THIS EVENING.
5:11:56PM JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
5:11:58PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:11:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
5:11:59PM GO AHEAD.
5:11:59PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:12:00PM >> MY NAME IS DAVE COLEMAN.
5:12:03PM I'M FROM NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE UP IN TAMPA.
5:12:06PM I'VE BEEN TRYING TO WATCH, LISTEN, AND LEARN EVER SINCE THE
5:12:10PM MAYOR PLACED THE BUDGET ON THIS COUNTER A COUPLE OF WEEKS
5:12:13PM AGO.
5:12:14PM NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE US AND WE HAVE NEEDS, SO THE MAYOR
5:12:17PM SAYS WE NEED TO RAISE TAXES, ALSO SAYS WE NEED AFFORDABLE
5:12:20PM HOUSING.
5:12:21PM YES IN MY BACKYARD IS A GREAT GROUP AND OTHERS.
5:12:27PM MIDDLE CLASS HOUSING IS A NEED AND THEREFORE AFFORDABLE
5:12:30PM HOUSING BUT MULTIUSE WITH JOBS, LIKE THAT TYPE OF
5:12:34PM CONSTRUCTION WHERE IT IS MULTIUSE BUT ALSO AFFORDABLE
5:12:36PM HOUSING AND A LOT OF MIDDLE-CLASS HOUSING.
5:12:40PM A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS I'M LISTENING TO SAY THEY CAN AFFORD TO
5:12:46PM PAY THE TAX, THE TAX IS REASONABLE AND WE HAVE NEEDS, SO I
5:12:48PM GET THAT PART.
5:12:49PM BUT PERHAPS THERE IS A BETTER WAY.
5:12:51PM PERHAPS A LOW-INCOME EXEMPTION.
5:12:53PM PERHAPS HIGH IMPACT FEES ON THOSE MILLION-DOLLAR APARTMENTS.
5:12:57PM I KNOW THE MONEY HAS TO COME FROM SOMEPLACE, BUT
5:13:00PM GENERATIONAL WEALTH ONLY EXISTS IF FAMILIES CAN STAY IN
5:13:05PM THEIR HOUSES.
5:13:07PM IT'S THE HOMEOWNERS ALL OVER THE CITY THAT PUT YOU IN
5:13:10PM OFFICE, NOT THE BUILD, BABY, BUILD PEOPLE THAT ARE STRESSING
5:13:13PM OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAUSING THEM FOR THE NEED FOR MORE
5:13:17PM MONEY.
5:13:18PM MANY OF THEM ARE JUST BARELY HANGING ON.
5:13:22PM AS YOU GO THROUGH YOUR MEETING, I REALLY NEED YOU TO
5:13:28PM CONSIDER THE PEOPLE JUST HANGING ON IN THE COMMUNITY.
5:13:30PM I KNOW A LOT OF YOU KNOW HOW TO KEEP THEM IN HOUSES.
5:13:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
5:13:37PM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
5:13:38PM YES, SIR.
5:13:46PM >> NICK STOCCO, FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 774.
5:13:49PM I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME THINGS THAT THE UNION
5:13:54PM BROUGHT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IN 2020.
5:13:57PM AND THERE WERE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THE UNION TO
5:14:00PM KEEP UP WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS AND THE NEEDS WE HAVE HERE
5:14:05PM IN THE CITY.
5:14:06PM IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT 17 STATIONS WERE NEEDED TO KEEP UP
5:14:12PM WITH THE GROWTH AND THE DEMAND THAT WAS GOING ON IN THE
5:14:14PM CITY.
5:14:14PM 17.
5:14:17PM THE UNION ACCOMMODATED THE CITY AND SAID, OKAY, WE NEED
5:14:21PM THREE IMMEDIATELY.
5:14:24PM WE NEED ONE IN CHANNELSIDE, ONE NEAR STATION 13 IN DISTRICT
5:14:28PM 7 AND ANOTHER ONE UP IN NORTH END, DISTRICT 7 AT K-BAR
5:14:32PM RANCH.
5:14:35PM THANKFULLY THEY ACQUIRED ONE OF THE STRUCTURES AND MOVED TWO
5:14:37PM OF THE PEAK UNITS UP IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA, BUT WE
5:14:41PM CURRENTLY HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ADDITIONAL NEW STATIONS WITH AN
5:14:47PM ENGINE, A TRUCK AND A RESCUE.
5:14:50PM IN 2019, THERE WAS DESIGN MONEY PUT AWAY FOR THE K-BAR RANCH
5:14:55PM TERRITORY AS WELL AS LAST YEAR'S BUDGET THAT PROPOSED THE
5:14:59PM DESIGN, THE CONSTRUCTION, WHERE THE MONEY WOULD COME FROM,
5:15:03PM AND THAT MEMO WAS PUT INTO THE RECORD ON WHERE THIS MONEY
5:15:10PM WOULD COME FROM.
5:15:10PM IF WE DO NOT PUT A STATION IN THIS BUDGET OR A COUPLE OF
5:15:14PM STATIONS, WE'RE GOING TO FURTHER MOVE OURSELVES BEHIND.
5:15:17PM WE KNOW RESPONSE TIMES.
5:15:20PM WE KNOW THE INCREASE IN RISK THAT WE'RE DOING BY NOT PUTTING
5:15:24PM FUTURE STATIONS INTO PLAY AND IN THIS BUDGET.
5:15:29PM 88% OF THE CALLS ARE MEDICAL.
5:15:32PM HOWEVER, ALL OF THE FIRE ENGINES ARE ALS FIRST ARRIVING
5:15:38PM UNITS AND PROVIDE THE SAME EQUIPMENT THAT THOSE AMBULANCES
5:15:40PM DO.
5:15:42PM THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE FIRE TRUCKS DON'T TAKE THE PEOPLE
5:15:44PM TO THE HOSPITAL.
5:15:45PM HOWEVER, WE DO PROVIDE FIRST ALS PARAMEDIC CARE IMMEDIATELY.
5:15:54PM I OFTEN HERE THE METRIC OF POPULATION TO FIRE STATIONS OR
5:15:57PM FIREFIGHTERS, THAT'S ONLY RELEVANT AT 3 IN THE MORNING ON A
5:16:00PM MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, WE
5:16:04PM TAKE A LOT OF VISITORS AND GUESTS HERE WITH BUSCH GARDENS,
5:16:08PM THE CONVENTION CENTER, STRAZ CENTER, THREE LARGE CRUISE
5:16:15PM TERMINALS THAT INTAKE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE GREATER THAN THE
5:16:21PM POPULATION METRIC.
5:16:21PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE INCREASE IN RISK THAT WE HAVE HERE AT
5:16:24PM THE CITY OF TAMPA AND PUTTING A STATION INTO THIS BUDGET
5:16:28PM BECAUSE IT IS VERY WELL NEEDED.
5:16:30PM IF WE DON'T, WE'RE FURTHER SETTING OURSELVES BEHIND, NOT
5:16:34PM STANDING STILL.
5:16:35PM THANK YOU.
5:16:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:16:36PM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:16:40PM >> HELLO.
5:16:41PM MY NAME IS MATT PALLARDI.
5:16:45PM I'M A MULTIGENERATION TAMPA RESIDENT.
5:16:48PM I ACTUALLY WENT TO SCHOOL WITH I THINK OUR CHAIRMAN HERE.
5:16:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS TRUE.
5:16:56PM >> IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYONE WANTS A LITTLE BIT OF THE PIECE
5:16:59PM OF THE PIE HERE, BUT I'M ACTUALLY ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
5:17:03PM I THINK -- AND IT'S GOING TO BE REDUNDANT.
5:17:07PM I'M SURE PEOPLE BEHIND ME WILL SPEAK TO IT THAT EVERYONE
5:17:10PM KNOWS WHAT REAL ESTATE HAS DONE HERE AND THEY KNOW WHAT THE
5:17:13PM ASSESSED VALUES HAVE DONE.
5:17:16PM IT'S BEEN DOUBLE DIGITS FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND
5:17:20PM EVERYONE KNOWS THAT.
5:17:21PM SO WHY TAX ANOTHER 16% ON THAT.
5:17:26PM I BOUGHT OVER A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN TAX
5:17:29PM LIENS.
5:17:29PM I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE MILLAGE RATE, AND IT'S REALLY A
5:17:33PM SHAME WHAT THEY DO WITH THE MONEY.
5:17:36PM WHEN I SAY "THEY," I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU ALL.
5:17:39PM NOT WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE IN HISTORY.
5:17:43PM FOR INSTANCE, WE WANT TO MAKE A PARK AND A FOUNTAIN, LIKE
5:17:45PM YBOR CITY, YOU GET OFF AT 21st GOING TO THE COLUMBIA
5:17:48PM RESTAURANT, OH, NICE FOUNTAIN, NICE IDEA, BUT NOW THE
5:17:52PM HOMELESS USE IT FOR A SHOWER.
5:17:54PM OH, WE HAVE TO FENCE IT OFF.
5:17:56PM IT IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE EVERYWHERE YOU GO.
5:17:59PM WE HAVE HOMELESS OUTSIDE MY OFFICE BUILDING RIGHT HERE
5:18:01PM ACROSS FROM THE POLICE STATION AND THEY WANT ME TO BUILD A
5:18:04PM RAPPORT LIKE AT A CASE STUDY JUST TO GET THE HOMELESS OFF MY
5:18:09PM CORNER FROM EVERYTHING ON MY OFFICE.
5:18:14PM I'LL JUST SAY THAT.
5:18:16PM YOU KNOW, IT'S A SHAME AND 16% IS A LOT ON TOP OF THE
5:18:23PM ADDITIONAL 10% ANNUALIZED EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST FIVE
5:18:26PM YEARS.
5:18:27PM I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO THAT BECAUSE I'M SURE OTHER PEOPLE
5:18:30PM WILL.
5:18:30PM THE NEXT THING THEY ARE GOING TO BE ASKING FOR IS FOR US TO
5:18:33PM BOND OUT SOME BOND FOR THE RAYS STADIUM IN YBOR.
5:18:36PM THAT'S NEXT.
5:18:37PM I JUST RECOMMEND YOU ALL DON'T APPROVE ANY NEW BUDGET THAT
5:18:42PM EXTENDS THE MILLAGE RATE.
5:18:44PM THANK YOU.
5:18:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:18:46PM THANK YOU.
5:18:47PM YES, SIR.
5:18:48PM NEXT SPEAKER.
5:18:52PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
5:18:53PM MY NAME IS NATHAN HAGAN.
5:18:55PM I'M A VOLUNTEER CHAPTER LEAD WITH A GROUP CALLED YIMBY
5:19:01PM TAMPA.
5:19:02PM THERE'S SO MUCH TO SAY ABOUT THE NEED RIGHT NOW.
5:19:04PM I DON'T THINK YOU'LL TALK TO A SINGLE SERIOUS PROFESSIONAL
5:19:10PM WHO WORKS IN PUBLIC SERVICES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHO WILL
5:19:14PM TELL YOU THAT WE HAVE AN ALLOCATION ISSUE AND NOT AN -- WE
5:19:18PM DON'T HAVE A SPENDING PROBLEM.
5:19:19PM WE HAVE AN INCOME PROBLEM.
5:19:20PM AS FAR AS I KNOW, EVERYBODY ON THIS COUNCIL SUPPORTED ALL
5:19:24PM FOR TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT WE HAVE A
5:19:27PM REVENUE PROBLEM.
5:19:28PM THERE IS NO WAY TO FIND COINS UNDERNEATH OUR SOFA CUSHION TO
5:19:33PM SOLVE THE INCREDIBLE WEIGHT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE
5:19:36PM AHEAD OF US.
5:19:37PM IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE.
5:19:38PM IT'S JUST NOT POSSIBLE.
5:19:40PM I'M NOT HERE EVEN TO PONTIFICATE ABOUT THE MILLAGE RATE
5:19:43PM INCREASE, BUT I WILL SAY THAT THERE IS A LOT OF WORK TO DO,
5:19:47PM AND THE IDEA OF CUTTING THINGS OUT OF THE BUDGET THAT ARE
5:19:49PM NEEDED, FOR EXAMPLE, HOUSING, WHICH TO BE HONEST, I HAVEN'T
5:19:53PM HAD ENOUGH TIME TO LOOK AT IT TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT OUR ASKS
5:19:56PM MIGHT BE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THEY ARE MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD
5:20:00PM LAST YEAR.
5:20:00PM I APPRECIATE WHAT WE DID LAST MONTH WITH THE CRA BUDGET.
5:20:03PM BUT IF YOU ASK YOUR PLANNING STAFF WHAT IT WILL COST TO
5:20:07PM SOLVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
5:20:09PM I'M SURE THEY WILL TELL YOU A MILLAGE RATE INCREASE IS NOT
5:20:11PM EVEN A 10th OF A HUNDREDTH -- IT IS AN INFINITESIMAL
5:20:17PM AMOUNT OF MONEY COMPARED TO THE COST OF SOLVING THE PROBLEMS
5:20:19PM WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.
5:20:21PM I THINK THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE TO HAVE THEIR
5:20:24PM MONEY TAKEN FROM THEM IN TAXES.
5:20:26PM THEY DON'T REALLY OFFER SOLUTIONS FOR THEIR COMMUNITY.
5:20:28PM THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE NOISE BECAUSE THEY ARE HURT, MONEY IS
5:20:31PM COMING OUT OF THEIR POCKET.
5:20:33PM THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY BEING HURT AND PEOPLE WHO
5:20:35PM ARE BEING HURT BY PROPERTY TAXES.
5:20:37PM FOR EXAMPLE, WE IN TAMPA, IF YOU ARE A RENTER, ARE PAYING
5:20:41PM 10%.
5:20:42PM YOUR TAX BILL FOR YOUR LANDLORD IS GOING UP 10% A YEAR AND
5:20:46PM THAT IS USUALLY GOING STRAIGHT ON TO THE TENANT.
5:20:48PM THERE ARE PROBLEMS THAT PEOPLE WHO OWN HOMES WHO HAVE
5:20:50PM INCOME -- WHO ARE INCOME RESTRICTED ARE FACING THAT THIS IS
5:20:50PM GOING TO EXACERBATE.
5:20:53PM THAT IS A REALLY TOUGH CHALLENGE.
5:20:54PM BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MONEY WE CAN PUT TOWARDS AFFORDABLE
5:20:57PM HOUSING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS HOUSING FOR LAST RESORT,
5:21:00PM WHICH I DON'T IS EVEN THINK IS IN THIS BUDGET, BUT IT SHOULD
5:21:03PM BE, THERE ARE WAYS WE CAN SPEND MONEY TO HELP PEOPLE OUT AND
5:21:07PM OUR CRAs DO SOME WORK WITH THAT WITH REHABILITATION AND
5:21:10PM THINGS LIKE THAT.
5:21:11PM THERE'S SO MUCH OPPORTUNITY TO USE MONEY TO FIX PROBLEMS
5:21:14PM THAT CUTTING BUDGET OR REFUSING TO RAISE MONEY IS NOT GOING
5:21:18PM TO SOLVE.
5:21:19PM WE NEED SOLUTIONS.
5:21:21PM IF SOMEBODY IS COMING UP HERE SENDING E-MAILS ASKING FOR YOU
5:21:24PM TO DO NOTHING AND TO NOT SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS, PLEASE IGNORE
5:21:28PM THEIR E-MAIL.
5:21:29PM THEY ARE NOT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE VOTING FOR YOU.
5:21:31PM NOBODY ELECTED ANYBODY ON THIS CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY
5:21:33PM THOUGHT YOU WOULD BE A DO-NOTHING NOBODY WHO DOESN'T WANT TO
5:21:37PM CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOLUTIONS OF THE CITY.
5:21:39PM PLEASE CONSIDER, IF YOU ARE ACTUALLY TRYING TO SOLVE
5:21:42PM PROBLEMS IN THE CITY, WILL YOU VOTE FOR THIS BUDGET AND WHAT
5:21:44PM WILL YOU ASK FOR?
5:21:45PM AGAIN, THIS IS NOT AN ENDORSEMENT OF WHAT'S ON THE BUDGET
5:21:49PM TODAY OR THE SPECIFIC MILLAGE ASK, BUT WE NEED SOLUTIONS,
5:21:52PM NOT DO-NOTHINGS.
5:21:54PM THANK YOU.
5:21:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:21:55PM NEXT SPEAKER.
5:22:00PM >> HELLO.
5:22:00PM I'M GAIL PALLARDY LYKES.
5:22:03PM I AM A MULTIGENERATIONAL FAMILY FROM TAMPA.
5:22:06PM I GREW UP ON DAVIS ISLAND.
5:22:08PM MY BACKGROUND IS I WAS A REAL ESTATE APPRAISER.
5:22:14PM I'VE SOLD RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE FOR 30 YEARS.
5:22:16PM I AM VIOLENTLY OPPOSED TO RAISING THE MILLAGE RATE.
5:22:19PM I DO THINK THE CITY HAS TO HELP PEOPLE AND MEET OUR NEEDS,
5:22:24PM BUT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO REALIZE SAVE OUR HOMES AND HOMESTEAD
5:22:29PM EXEMPTION NOT GOING TO PROTECT PEOPLE AGAINST THE MILLAGE
5:22:32PM INCREASE.
5:22:33PM A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WELL, I HAVE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
5:22:36PM WHEN YOU RAISE THE MILLAGE, IT RAISES THE TAXES ON EVERY
5:22:39PM SINGLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S NOT EXEMPTED, WHICH THERE
5:22:42PM ARE NUMEROUS ONES EXEMPTED LIKE THE RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM,
5:22:46PM AMALIE ARENA, YANKEES FIELD, THEY ARE NOT PAYING ANY TAXES.
5:22:51PM IF YOU WANT TO BE CREATIVE ABOUT COMING UP WITH MORE TAXES,
5:22:54PM MAYBE WE COULD TAX THEIR TICKET SALES, TAX THEIR PARKING,
5:22:58PM TAYLOR SWIFT BROUGHT IN A LOT OF MONEY IN THREE DAYS IN
5:23:01PM TAMPA AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TAXPAYERS GOT FROM THAT.
5:23:03PM SO I'M NOT SAYING IGNORE THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE, BUT GOING
5:23:07PM TO THE MILLAGE RATE IS THE WRONG THING TO DO.
5:23:11PM TAMPA HAS HAD INCREDIBLE APPRECIATION OVER THE LAST YEARS.
5:23:17PM MICHAEL PERRY, WHO IS THE CITY BUDGET DIRECTOR, PROVIDED THE
5:23:21PM STATISTICS THAT FROM 2018 TO 2023, THE CITY'S REVENUE WENT
5:23:25PM FROM $183 MILLION TO $299 MILLION.
5:23:29PM THAT'S A 63% INCREASE AND $116 MILLION.
5:23:33PM SO MY QUESTION IS, WHERE HAS THIS MONEY GONE?
5:23:40PM WE'VE HAD SO MANY NEW REAL ESTATE PROJECTS COME ON IN THE
5:23:44PM LAST TWO YEARS, THE SANCTUARY AND THE ADDITION ARE EXAMPLES.
5:23:47PM THEY HAD RECORD-SETTING SINGLE UNIT SALES OF $7 MILLION AND
5:23:50PM OVER.
5:23:52PM THOSE TAXES HAVE BEEN COMING INTO OUR COFFERS, AND WE NEED
5:23:54PM TO DO SOMETHING RESPONSIBLE.
5:23:56PM RAISING THE TAXES ON TOP OF THE RECENT INCREASE IN FLOOD
5:24:00PM INSURANCE, INCREASE IN HAZARD INSURANCE, INCREASE IN
5:24:03PM MORTGAGE RATES IS GOING TO CRIPPLE THE PEOPLE TRYING TO BUY
5:24:08PM HOMES HERE.
5:24:09PM WE DO NEED HELP, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY, AND I WOULD
5:24:11PM LIKE TO SEE RESPONSIBLE FISCAL USE OF IT.
5:24:14PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
5:24:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:24:23PM [ENCODER DROP]
5:24:41PM >> -- IS COMING FROM, WHETHER YOU BE A SENIOR OR A HOMEBOUND
5:24:45PM VETERAN, WE NEED THE INCREASING MEANS TO GET LOGISTICS OF
5:24:49PM HEALTHY PRODUCE TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT.
5:24:50PM AND I DON'T KNOW -- LET THE FARMERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES BUT
5:24:54PM WE ASK FOR CONTINUED CITY OF TAMPA SUPPORT.
5:24:57PM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
5:24:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:24:59PM NEXT SPEAKER.
5:25:02PM >> HI.
5:25:03PM MY NAME IS JOE DALESSIO.
5:25:05PM I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS AND OPERATORS AT MEACHAM URBAN FARM.
5:25:09PM WE ARE A TWO-ACRE ORGANIC FARM SITUATED IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
5:25:12PM WE WORK WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL DISTRICT TO
5:25:15PM PROVIDE EDUCATION FOR CHILDREN AS WELL AS WITH TAMPA HOUSING
5:25:18PM AUTHORITY TO PROVIDE FRESH ACCESS TO NUTRIENT DENSE FOODS
5:25:25PM DIRECTLY INTO THE COMMUNITIES THAT NEED THEM.
5:25:26PM WE'VE BEEN ON THE SITE FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
5:25:30PM AT THIS POINT WE'RE PRODUCING ABOUT 50,000 POUNDS OF PRODUCE
5:25:33PM A YEAR AND WE'RE HOPING TO CONTINUALLY INCREASE THAT.
5:25:36PM SO WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY FOR THE FOUNDATION THAT WE
5:25:39PM HAVE LAID AND THE SWEAT EQUITY THAT WE HAVE PUT IN, WE ELECT
5:25:43PM TO CONTINUE THIS PROJECT AND PROVIDE MORE RESOURCES TO
5:25:48PM PEOPLE AND PROVIDE MORE FOOD AND MORE EDUCATION.
5:25:53PM SOME OF THE OTHER FARMERS HERE TODAY WILL SPEAK ABOUT WHAT
5:25:56PM WE DO AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
5:25:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:25:59PM NEXT SPEAKER.
5:26:04PM >> HELLO.
5:26:05PM I'M NICOLE KUBLINS, A FARMER AT MEACHAM URBAN FARM.
5:26:11PM THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO US TODAY.
5:26:13PM WITH YOUR SUPPORT, MEACHAM URBAN FARM WILL CONTINUE TO
5:26:17PM EDUCATE PEOPLE OF ALL AGES HERE IN TAMPA.
5:26:19PM WE HOST FIELD TRIPS FOR CHILDREN FROM PRESCHOOL THROUGH HIGH
5:26:23PM SCHOOL.
5:26:24PM OUR CLOSEST STUDENTS COMING FROM BOOKER T. WASHINGTON
5:26:27PM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
5:26:28PM THEY WALK OVER.
5:26:29PM STUDENTS TOUR THE FARM AND LEARN ABOUT WHERE AND HOW THEIR
5:26:33PM FOOD IS GROWN.
5:26:34PM WE ALSO HAD GREAT SUCCESS HOSTING SUBSIDIZED WORKSHOPS WITH
5:26:38PM PARTNERING NONPROFITS TO TEACH SMALL-SCALE REGENERATIVE
5:26:42PM AGRICULTURE TO ASPIRING FARMERS WITH LOW INCOME.
5:26:45PM AND WE ALSO HAVE WEEKLY VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES WITH DOZENS
5:26:49PM OF DEDICATED VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT LOCAL
5:26:53PM AGRICULTURE AND LEAVE WITH HANDS-ON GROWING EXPERIENCE EACH
5:26:58PM WEEK AND KNOWLEDGE.
5:26:59PM WITH THESE SUCCESSFUL EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES AND PROGRAMS,
5:27:04PM YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT WILL HELP THESE EXISTING PROGRAMS BE
5:27:08PM BETTER, WILL INCREASE THE FREQUENCY OF THESE EDUCATIONAL
5:27:11PM OPPORTUNITIES, AND HELP US GROW WITH OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN
5:27:17PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
5:27:18PM THANK YOU.
5:27:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:27:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION THAT NO ONE HAS
5:27:23PM ANSWERED.
5:27:23PM IF YOU ARE FROM MEACHAM, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT.
5:27:27PM YOU SAID CONTINUED SUPPORT.
5:27:28PM WHAT IS YOUR ASK?
5:27:29PM YOU HAVE TO COME UP TO THE MIKE.
5:27:36PM >> SO WE ARE ASKING --
5:27:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST STATE YOUR NAME.
5:27:41PM >> JOSEPH DALESSIO, OWNER AND OPERATOR AT MEACHAM FARM.
5:27:44PM THE CURRENT STATE OF THE PROJECT, WE ARE FIVE YEARS INTO
5:27:47PM THIS PROJECT WITH TWO AND A HALF YEARS OF ACTUALLY ON-SITE.
5:27:51PM THERE WAS AN INCREDIBLE INVESTMENT OVERHEAD TO GET THIS
5:27:57PM PROJECT BUILT.
5:27:57PM WE PUT A LOT OF OUR OWN RESOURCES INTO IT, PERSONAL TIME AND
5:28:01PM MONEY AS WELL AS WE GOT HUD FUNDING.
5:28:04PM SO WE'RE ASKING TO BE ABLE TO FINISH THOSE BUILD-OUTS, TO
5:28:07PM FINISH THIS PLATFORM FOR THE STUDENTS AND TO CREATE MORE
5:28:12PM ACCESS TO FOOD, TO BE ABLE TO OPEN AND BRING IN MORE
5:28:17PM FARMERS, SUPPORT MORE LOCAL GROWERS AND INCREASE OUR ABILITY
5:28:22PM TO AGGREGATE AND BUILD THE LOCAL FOOD SYSTEM AS WELL AS
5:28:25PM PROVIDE MORE EDUCATION FOR THE STUDENTS.
5:28:28PM SO THAT'S FINALIZING THIS BUILD-OUT OF THIS PROJECT AND
5:28:33PM MAKING IT A WHOLE EXPERIENCE FOR THE KIDS AND FOR THE
5:28:37PM COMMUNITY.
5:28:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS THE PROJECT?
5:28:38PM WHAT IS THE PROJECT?
5:28:41PM >> MEACHAM URBAN FARM.
5:28:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING OUT THE
5:28:45PM PROJECT.
5:28:46PM >> THE ACTUAL SPECIFICS OF IT?
5:28:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, YEAH.
5:28:49PM JUST QUICKLY, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OKAY, I
5:28:51PM NEED THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR THIS THING.
5:28:55PM >> SO THE FIRST THING IS WE NEED TO FINISH INFRASTRUCTURE
5:28:59PM BUILD-OUT, WHICH WOULD BE ADDING ON AND FINALIZING OUR GREEN
5:29:03PM HOUSES.
5:29:04PM THIS WOULD EXTEND OUR PRODUCTION IN FOOD SECURITY, SO WE
5:29:08PM WILL BE ABLE TO WITH SEVERE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS, WE
5:29:12PM WILL BE ABLE TO PRODUCE ALMOST YEAR-ROUND.
5:29:15PM THIS INCREASES OUR RATE OF PRODUCTION ABOUT 25, 30 PERCENT.
5:29:19PM AND THAT FOOD GOES DIRECTLY INTO OUR COMMUNITY VIA OUR FARM
5:29:23PM STORE THAT'S ON-SITE.
5:29:25PM SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS WE WANT TO DO IS WE WANT TO
5:29:27PM FINALIZE OUR PAVILION BUILD-OUT, SO THIS GOES INTO OUR STORE
5:29:33PM AS WELL AS OUR EDUCATIONAL AREA.
5:29:35PM THIS IS PUTTING IN SHELVING, BASIC REFRIGERATION, AND THEN
5:29:43PM THIS GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IN MORE FARMERS AND
5:29:48PM SUPPLY IT.
5:29:48PM THESE ARE BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
5:29:51PM THEY ARE INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE DOING IT IN THE CITY.
5:29:54PM SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FOR THAT.
5:29:56PM WE ARE LOOKING FOR SUPPORT TO PLANT OUT OUR ENTIRE PROPERTY.
5:30:01PM ALL OF OUR MARGINAL AREAS THAT WE CANNOT GROW VEGETABLES, WE
5:30:04PM WANT TO FINALIZE THOSE PLANTINGS WITH EDIBLE FRUITS.
5:30:08PM SO THIS IS OUR PERENNIALS ON OUR EDUCATIONAL TOURS.
5:30:13PM SO WE HAVE A PATHWAY THAT GOES AROUND THE WHOLE FARM.
5:30:20PM WE WANT TO FINALIZE THE PLANTING SO IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE
5:30:23PM EXPERIENCE FOR THE CHILDREN WHEN THEY COME ON-SITE.
5:30:25PM THOSE ARE SOME OF THE BASIC THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO.
5:30:29PM WE COMPLETED THAT PHASE ONE, AND NOW IT'S GOING INTO THAT
5:30:32PM PHASE TWO.
5:30:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
5:30:33PM APPRECIATE THE SPECIFICS.
5:30:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:30:37PM NEXT SPEAKER.
5:30:38PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:30:41PM >> MY NAME IS STEVEN FOX.
5:30:43PM I'M A RESIDENT HERE IN TAMPA AND I'VE WORKED AT MEACHAM
5:30:47PM URBAN FARM OVER THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
5:30:49PM I'M HERE TO ASK FOR SUPPORT FOR THE FARM BECAUSE I BELIEVE
5:30:52PM IN ITS MISSION.
5:30:53PM WE DON'T LIKE TO CONSIDER THIS PROJECT JUST THE FARM BUT
5:30:55PM SOMETHING MUCH MORE.
5:30:56PM FOR ONE, WE HAVE TRIED TO MAKE IT AN AGRICULTURAL EDUCATION
5:31:00PM CENTER FOR TAMPA RESIDENTS SO THEY MAY DEVELOP THE SKILLS TO
5:31:02PM FEED THEMSELVES AND UNDERSTAND HOW FOOD IS PRODUCED.
5:31:05PM IT IS ALSO A GREENSPACE THAT INCREASES BIODIVERSITY AND
5:31:07PM HELPS PROTECT TAMPA'S SOIL AND WATER RESOURCES.
5:31:10PM AND IT IS NOT JUST ANY KIND OF FARM BUT AN ORGANIC SMALL
5:31:13PM FARM AND BUSINESS THAT STIMULATES THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND
5:31:16PM PROVIDES SAFE AND HEALTHY FOOD FOR ITS RESIDENTS.
5:31:19PM WE ARE JUST ONE FARM AND WE HAVE NOT EVEN SCRATCHED THE
5:31:22PM SURFACE OF WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF, WITH INCREASING
5:31:25PM INSTABILITY IN THE GLOBAL FOOD SYSTEM, WHICH CITIES LIKE
5:31:27PM TAMPA RELY ON FOR ITS FOOD SUPPLY, WE HERE AT MEACHAM URBAN
5:31:32PM FARM ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP A WORKING MODEL FOR A SUSTAINABLE
5:31:35PM FUTURE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
5:31:36PM WE ARE SUCCESSFUL -- IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN OUR GOALS, WE
5:31:39PM MAY BE ABLE TO EXPORT THIS MODEL TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN
5:31:42PM TAMPA, IN THE TAMPA AREA.
5:31:44PM THIS WILL ALLOW CITIZENS IN OTHER AREAS TO ENJOY BETTER FOOD
5:31:48PM ACCESS, AGRICULTURE EDUCATION AND STABLE JOB OPPORTUNITIES.
5:31:52PM THIS IS PART OF THE LONG-TERM GOAL OF CREATING A MORE
5:31:54PM RESILIENT FOOD SYSTEM IN TAMPA WHICH CAN HELP BUFFER THE
5:31:57PM NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF RELYING ON A GLOBAL FOOD SUPPLY CHAIN
5:32:01PM WHILE ALSO ENHANCING THE URBAN ENVIRONMENT BY RESTORING LAND
5:32:04PM TO AGRICULTURE USE.
5:32:06PM WE WISH TO HELP TAMPA BECOME HEALTHY, INDEPENDENT, AND MORE
5:32:09PM AGRICULTURALLY ENRICHING FOR ITS RESIDENTS BUT WE CAN'T DO
5:32:13PM THIS WITHOUT SOME HELP.
5:32:14PM THANK YOU.
5:32:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:32:18PM >> HI.
5:32:19PM TRAVIS.
5:32:21PM I AM THE LAST MEACHAM URBAN FARMER.
5:32:23PM WE'LL GO THROUGH THE FARM TALK PRETTY QUICK.
5:32:25PM I'M ALSO HERE SEEKING SUPPORT FOR THE MEACHAM URBAN FARM
5:32:28PM PROJECT.
5:32:29PM ONE OF THE LAST THINGS WE DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE
5:32:31PM AFFORDABLE ORGANIC PRODUCE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:32:34PM ONE OF OUR CORE TENETS IS WE HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE WE ARE
5:32:36PM DOUBLING THE VALUE OF SNAP EBT.
5:32:39PM ANYONE WHO COMES IN WITH $40 WORTH OF EBT GETS $80 WORTH OF
5:32:45PM PRODUCE.
5:32:46PM IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM THAT WE'RE REALLY PUSHING.
5:32:48PM WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO FEEDING TAMPA BAY RECENTLY ABOUT A
5:32:52PM PARTNERSHIP ABOUT US SUPPLYING FRESH PRODUCE BOXES FOR A
5:32:55PM PROGRAM THAT HOPEFULLY WILL GET SOME TRACTION.
5:32:57PM THE BIG THING IS THAT OUR PROJECT ISN'T COMPLETE.
5:32:59PM WE STARTED WITH SOME GENEROUS TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND
5:33:02PM HUD FUNDING TO GET STARTED BUT IT HAPPENED DURING COVID.
5:33:06PM AND WE'RE FARMERS.
5:33:08PM WE'RE NOT CONTRACTORS.
5:33:09PM THE PROJECT JUST ISN'T COMPLETE YET.
5:33:12PM LIKE JOE POINTED OUT, WE NEED WORK ON GREEN HOUSES,
5:33:15PM FINISHING THE WHOLE LAYOUT OF THE PLACE.
5:33:17PM WE'RE ON TWO ACRES, AND EVERY SQUARE FOOD COULD BE A
5:33:21PM LEARNING OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS.
5:33:22PM EVERYWHERE YOU TURN COULD BE FRUIT TREES OR CHICKENS OR
5:33:28PM SOMETHING YOU CAN LEARN FROM.
5:33:29PM WE HAVE VISION FOR THAT AND WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE THIS A GEM
5:33:32PM IN THE CITY AND A HUGE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT FOR THE TOWN.
5:33:36PM IN SUMMARY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS FUNDING TO
5:33:39PM COMPLETE THE PROJECT.
5:33:40PM WE'RE JUST -- MY BIG THING IS THAT I WANT TO SEE EVERY KID
5:33:44PM IN TAMPA KNOW THAT A TOMATO STARTS GREEN AND TURNS RED.
5:33:48PM I THINK WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT.
5:33:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:33:51PM I DID SPEAK WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
5:33:56PM ABOUT ALLOCATING SOME FUNDS FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE GREEN
5:34:00PM HOUSE.
5:34:00PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS 40 OR 50 THOUSAND DOLLARS.
5:34:02PM THAT IS THE NUMBER THAT I HEARD, BUT I DID HAVE THAT
5:34:06PM CONVERSATION.
5:34:07PM YOU HAVE BEEN HEARD.
5:34:10PM THANKS.
5:34:10PM NEXT SPEAKER.
5:34:12PM >> HELLO.
5:34:13PM MY NAME IS LAURA LINE.
5:34:14PM I'M AN ANIMAL RESCUE VOLUNTEER BASED OUT OF WEST TAMPA.
5:34:18PM I'M ACTUALLY HERE FOR SOME CURSORY RESEARCH.
5:34:22PM THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN GIVING AT LEAST $10,000 TO THE
5:34:27PM HUMANE SOCIETY OF TAMPA BAY SINCE AT LAST 2018, AND IN
5:34:31PM SCANNING THE BUDGET, I COULDN'T IDENTIFY IF THEY ARE SLATED
5:34:34PM TO RECEIVE A DONATION FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR SO I WANTED
5:34:39PM TO CONFIRM IF THEY ARE AND IF SO, HOW MUCH.
5:34:42PM THOSE WERE REALLY MY ONLY QUESTIONS.
5:34:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SINCE WE HAVE THE BUDGET FOLKS HERE, DO
5:34:47PM YOU HAVE THAT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD?
5:34:49PM DO YOU KNOW, MR. ROGERO?
5:34:52PM WE'LL FIND IT.
5:34:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE MS. LINE'S CONTACT INFORMATION, SO IF
5:34:58PM YOU WANT TO E-MAIL IT TO ME, I WILL FORWARD IT.
5:35:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:35:02PM WE'LL GET IT FOR YOU.
5:35:03PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
5:35:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
5:35:08PM >> GOOD EVENING.
5:35:08PM MY NAME IS RUTH STATE.
5:35:10PM BEFORE WE CAME TO TAMPA, WE LIVED IN TEXAS FOR TEN YEARS.
5:35:14PM DURING THAT TIME, MY HUSBAND WAS A HISTORY TEACHER AND AFTER
5:35:18PM 9/11 JOINED THE RESERVES.
5:35:20PM IN 2006, MILITARY ASSIGNMENT BROUGHT US TO TAMPA.
5:35:25PM AT THAT TIME, OUR FOUR BOYS WERE AGES 8, 5, 3, AND 4 MONTHS.
5:35:30PM WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYONE, BUT QUICKLY SETTLED IN AND DECIDED TO
5:35:34PM STAY BECAUSE OF THE FAMILIES WHO WELCOMED US.
5:35:37PM WE HAD A WONDERFUL CHURCH AND A NEW JOB OPPORTUNITY.
5:35:41PM EVEN THOUGH MONEY WITH TIGHT, WE SAVED ENOUGH TO BUY A HOME
5:35:45PM NEAR PLANT HIGH SCHOOL.
5:35:47PM WE CONTINUED TO BUILD FRIENDSHIPS AND A LIFE THAT WE LOVE
5:35:50PM HERE.
5:35:51PM WITH A GROWING FAMILY AND OUR FIRST SON HEADED TO COLLEGE, I
5:35:54PM WENT BACK TO WORKING AS A NURSE.
5:35:56PM AS EXPENSES GREW AND INSURANCE RATES INCREASED, WE
5:36:01PM RELUCTANTLY DECIDED TO SELL THE HOUSE AND RENT A SMALLER
5:36:05PM HOME.
5:36:05PM WE WANTED TO STAY IN THE AREA, BUT WE DID NOT WANT TO LIVE
5:36:09PM ABOVE OUR MEANS.
5:36:10PM HOWEVER, JUST FINDING A PLACE TO RENT WAS DAUNTING.
5:36:15PM SINCE WE'VE MADE THAT MOVE, THE PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITIES
5:36:17PM HAVE CONTINUED TO INCREASE, NOT JUST THE SALE PRICES OF
5:36:22PM HOUSES IN THE AREA, BUT THE INSURANCE RATES AND THE INTEREST
5:36:26PM RATES HAVE ALL INCREASED.
5:36:29PM AND ALTHOUGH THIS IS HARD ON OUR POCKETBOOK, IT HAS BROUGHT
5:36:33PM INCREASED REVENUE TO OUR CITY, WHICH IS WHY I DON'T
5:36:37PM UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH IN THE BUDGET.
5:36:42PM I IMAGINE THAT JUST WITH THE SHARP INCREASES IN HOME VALUES,
5:36:46PM THE CITY IS ENJOYING UNPRECEDENTED INCOME.
5:36:49PM BUT THEY ARE STILL ASKING FOR A 16% INCREASE.
5:36:53PM MAYOR CASTOR HAS SAID IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES AND I QUOTE,
5:36:58PM THERE IS NO CLEARER MESSAGE FROM VOTERS THAT THE TIME TO ACT
5:37:02PM IS NOW.
5:37:03PM TAMPA VOTERS WANT BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE AND ARE WILLING TO
5:37:06PM PAY FOR IT.
5:37:09PM WHAT POLL IS THAT FROM?
5:37:10PM WE ARE NOW FINDING OURSELVES EVEN WITH TWO INCOMES FEELING
5:37:18PM LIKE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.
5:37:19PM IT BOGGLES MY MIND THAT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE ANYONE CAN ASK
5:37:24PM AVERAGE HARDWORKING CITIZENS TO TAKE EVEN MORE OUT OF THEIR
5:37:27PM POCKETS AT A TIME WHEN GAS, GROCERIES, AND JUST THE BASICS
5:37:31PM ARE PUSHING US TO THE BREAKING POINT.
5:37:34PM MORE TAXES, JUST SAY NO.
5:37:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:37:38PM YES, MA'AM.
5:37:39PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:37:42PM >> HI, EVERYONE.
5:37:43PM I'M CLAIR BENNETT.
5:37:44PM I'M JUST GOING TO SPEAK FROM MY HEART.
5:37:49PM MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE A HOUSE.
5:37:52PM WE'RE VERY CONCERNED.
5:37:54PM WE OPPOSE THIS INCREASE IN MILLAGE.
5:37:57PM WHEN WE HAVE A NEW EXPENSE COMING TO OUR HOME, WE SIT DOWN
5:38:04PM TOGETHER AND WE LOOK AT OUR BUDGET.
5:38:05PM WE FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO.
5:38:09PM WELL, WE HAD A VERY HIGH PROPOSED INCREASE ON OUR PROPERTY
5:38:15PM INSURANCE.
5:38:16PM $1500 FROM ONE YEAR TO -- THAT'S A LOT.
5:38:20PM SO WE THOUGHT, WELL, WE CAN'T DO IT.
5:38:23PM WE CAN'T DO IT.
5:38:24PM SO WE SAT DOWN AND WE LOOKED AT OUR BUDGET.
5:38:28PM YOU GUYS REALLY ARE OVERSEEING A HOUSEHOLD, A HOUSEHOLD FOR
5:38:32PM US.
5:38:32PM AND WE'RE ASKING IF YOU COULD PLEASE GO LINE ITEM AND FIND
5:38:38PM OUT WHERE THE REVENUE HAS GONE FROM THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY
5:38:45PM VALUES IN OUR CITY.
5:38:47PM YOU ALREADY HEARD THIS.
5:38:48PM I ALSO HEARD, I THINK IT WAS THE SECOND MAN THAT SPOKE WITH
5:38:51PM THE LONG WHITE BEARD AND HE SAID I WANT TO STAY IN MY HOME.
5:38:56PM SO ONE OF OUR CHILDREN, SHE AND HER HUSBAND ARE SEEKING A
5:39:00PM RENTAL PROPERTY.
5:39:01PM THEY HAVE A BUDGET.
5:39:02PM THEY THINK THAT IN THROW TO FOUR YEARS THEY WILL BE ABLE TO
5:39:06PM SAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PUT A DOWN PAYMENT ON.
5:39:08PM GOODNESS KNOWS WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THREE TO
5:39:12PM FOUR YEARS.
5:39:13PM WELL, THEY WENT TO AN ELDERLY FAMILY WHO OWNS THE HOUSE
5:39:20PM ACROSS THE STREET THAT THEY INHERITED AFTER MOM DIED.
5:39:23PM THEY THEMSELVES PAY $500 IN TAXES A MONTH FOR THAT.
5:39:28PM THAT'S ONLY THE TAXES.
5:39:30PM THAT'S NOT THE PROPERTY INSURANCE OR THE RENTER INSURANCE OR
5:39:33PM WHATEVER ELSE HAS TO GO TO KEEP THE UPKEEP OF THAT HOUSE.
5:39:36PM SO I WENT AHEAD AND I DID A LITTLE MATH.
5:39:40PM MY HUSBAND AND I LEFT OUR HOME OF 22 YEARS IN SOUTH TAMPA TO
5:39:46PM MOVE TO PORT TAMPA CITY.
5:39:48PM DO YOU ALL KNOW WHERE THAT IS?
5:39:50PM IT'S ALL THE WAY DOWN WESTSHORE.
5:39:53PM A WHOLE NEW ENVIRONMENT FOR US, BUT OUR YOUNGEST SON DID THE
5:39:59PM IB PROGRAM.
5:40:00PM YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO LIKE IT.
5:40:01PM IT'S VERY DIVERSE, AND WE DO LIKE IT.
5:40:04PM WELL, IT'S CHANGING, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT HOUSES ARE BEING
5:40:11PM KNOCKED DOWN.
5:40:12PM BIG HOUSES ARE COMING UP.
5:40:13PM I WENT AHEAD LAST NIGHT AND DID SOME MATH.
5:40:16PM MY TAXES WHEN I WAS IN SUNSET PARK ISLES FOR $4100.
5:40:21PM TWO YEARS LATER, THE NEW HOME THAT'S ON THAT PROPERTY IS
5:40:24PM $38,000.
5:40:25PM THAT'S JUST MY EXPERIENCE.
5:40:29PM SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I'M ONE HOUSE IN ALL OF TAMPA,
5:40:36PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, THAT IS SEEING THIS ENORMOUS INCREASE
5:40:39PM IN PROPERTY TAXES.
5:40:41PM WHERE IS THE MONEY?
5:40:42PM I THINK THAT'S MY POINT.
5:40:45PM I LIKE MEACHAM, BUT I DON'T WANT MY MILLAGE TO GO TO BUILD
5:40:50PM SHELVES AND A NEW GREEN HOUSE.
5:40:52PM THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM.
5:40:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:40:58PM >> HELLO.
5:40:59PM MY NAME IS BEN HOLMES.
5:41:00PM I LIVE IN HYDE PARK.
5:41:02PM AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE ONE MILLAGE RATE.
5:41:08PM PART OF TAMPA AND WHY I'M HERE IS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN AN
5:41:12PM ATTRACTIVE WAY TO LIVE.
5:41:14PM IT'S BEEN PRETTY LOW COST.
5:41:18PM I COME FROM THE NORTH AND IT'S GETTING HIGHER AND HIGHER.
5:41:24PM I THINK MY ASK IS TO OBVIOUSLY OPPOSE THAT MILLAGE RATE AS
5:41:33PM WELL AS MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR INSURERS TO GET IN HERE
5:41:38PM AND MAYBE GET US SOME INSURANCE AT A LOWER COST.
5:41:41PM IT'S HARD FOR A LOT OF US TO EVEN GET OUTSIDE -- OR
5:41:47PM CATASTROPHIC INSURANCE.
5:41:49PM WE HAVE TO GO TO CITIZENS.
5:41:50PM I THINK THAT IF YOU GET MORE PEOPLE INTO TAMPA, RIGHT, THEN
5:41:56PM THERE ARE MORE PEOPLE PAYING INTO THE SYSTEM.
5:42:00PM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I PAID FOR NEW AIR-CONDITIONERS
5:42:06PM THROUGH MY PROPERTY TAX ON THE SCHOOLS AND THEN SCHOOLS WERE
5:42:10PM SHUT DOWN FOR TWO YEARS, SO DO I GET SOME MONEY BACK FOR
5:42:16PM THAT?
5:42:16PM I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY MONEY BACK.
5:42:21PM AND THAT'S WHERE OUR TAXES ARE GOING, INTO THE PUBLIC
5:42:25PM SCHOOLS, PUBLIC LIBRARIES.
5:42:26PM AS I RECALL FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS, THEY TOOK DOWN
5:42:31PM THE TENNIS COURTS, BASKETBALL COURTS.
5:42:36PM WE COULDN'T USE OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES AND CHILDREN COULDN'T
5:42:41PM GO TO SCHOOLS BUT YET I PAID FOR IT, AND I DIDN'T RECEIVE
5:42:45PM ANY KIND OF A REBATE.
5:42:48PM I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE
5:42:52PM FOR MORE PEOPLE FROM UP NORTH TO COME DOWN HERE AND THEN YOU
5:42:55PM GET A BIGGER REVENUE BASE AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO FOR THE
5:43:01PM 7th GENERATION PEOPLE HERE WHO HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR A
5:43:04PM LONG TIME, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY
5:43:09PM TAXES.
5:43:09PM THANK YOU.
5:43:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:43:10PM YES, SIR.
5:43:16PM >> IS IT 6:00 YET?
5:43:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 5:43.
5:43:23PM >> QUARTER TO 6.
5:43:24PM 5:43.
5:43:28PM I'LL HAVE TO SAY GOOD AFTERNOON.
5:43:32PM MY NAME IS MALIK LUKE MANABDALA.
5:43:32PM I APPROACH THIS FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, WHAT I HEARD
5:43:36PM IN THE SENSE THAT THERE IS STILL A SEGMENT OF THE COMMUNITY
5:43:44PM THAT THEY ARE DENIED ACCESS TO THE RESOURCES.
5:43:48PM WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT, MR. MALIK?
5:43:53PM I MEAN THAT IS A RACIAL ISSUE.
5:43:57PM EUROPEAN WHITE MEN SITTING ON THE BOARD, ONE WHITE WOMAN.
5:44:00PM THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE ARE HAVING
5:44:02PM THAT YOU GUYS, WE ELECT TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS FOR US.
5:44:06PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET SOLVED BY YOU GUYS.
5:44:09PM THESE PEOPLE OUT HERE, THEY ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO SOLVE
5:44:13PM IT, BUT THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE CONSCIOUSNESS TO WORK ON THESE
5:44:16PM PROBLEMS -- WELL, NOT TO SUPPORT BAD DECISIONS, BUT TO
5:44:20PM SUPPORT GOOD DECISIONS THAT'S GOING TO BE INCLUSIVE FOR THE
5:44:24PM COMMUNITY.
5:44:24PM SO WHEN WE START DOING THAT, YOU WON'T HAVE SO MANY
5:44:28PM COMPLAINTS ABOUT PEOPLE.
5:44:30PM IN THIS BUDGET HERE, THERE ARE -- I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT
5:44:34PM IT, BUT IT IS SUGGESTED THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ALL THIS
5:44:41PM CLEANING UP.
5:44:42PM IT'S ALL RIGHT TO CLEAN UP, BUT IS IT ALL RIGHT TO DENY YOUR
5:44:47PM POPULATION ARE ACCESS TO THESE RESOURCES TO CLEAN UP THEIR
5:44:51PM OWN COMMUNITY?
5:44:52PM SO I THINK THE CRY HAS BEEN LOUD AND CLEAR OVER MANY, MANY
5:44:58PM YEARS, BUT THE QUESTION I ASK IS, WHO IS LISTENING?
5:45:02PM BECAUSE IF YOU'RE LISTENING, YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEM
5:45:09PM THAT'S BOTHERING THE PEOPLE, BUT IT'S A CONTINUATION OF THE
5:45:15PM SAME OL', SAME OL'.
5:45:17PM I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AGAINST THE POLICE, BUT I SEE THE
5:45:22PM BEHAVIOR OF SOME BAD ACTORS OPPRESSING PEOPLE OF COLOR.
5:45:28PM THAT IS A SICK MIND.
5:45:30PM WE ARE SICK, AND WE CONDONE IT AND GO ALONG WITH IT.
5:45:33PM THIS IS AFFIRMATION OF THE SUFFERING OF THE COMMUNITY.
5:45:37PM I'M NOT EMBARRASSED TO TELL YOU ALL THIS.
5:45:38PM I'M GLAD I CAN TELL YOU ALL THIS BECAUSE I'M RELIEVING
5:45:41PM MYSELF OF THE HAND SUPPRESSING ME, MY FAMILY, LOVED ONES AND
5:45:46PM COMMUNITY.
5:45:46PM THANK YOU.
5:45:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
5:45:49PM YES, MA'AM.
5:45:52PM >> HELLO, EVERYONE.
5:45:53PM HOW ARE YOU DOING?
5:45:54PM BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE.
5:45:56PM MY NAME IS REBA EINMAN.
5:45:59PM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ONE THING.
5:46:01PM BUT AFTER LISTENING TO THE INDIVIDUALS UP HERE, THERE ARE
5:46:01PM SEVERAL THINGS I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT, BUT THE FIRST IS ZION.
5:46:06PM ZION.
5:46:09PM DO YOU REMEMBER ZION?
5:46:10PM DO YOU ALL KNOW WHAT ZION IS?
5:46:14PM DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT REPRESENTS?
5:46:15PM THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN CEMETERY, BLACK AFRICAN AMERICAN
5:46:21PM CEMETERY.
5:46:21PM I WANT TO THANK YOU, THE CITY, THE STATE FOR DONATING
5:46:25PM $50,000.
5:46:26PM IT'S PEANUTS TO ME BUT IT'S FINE BECAUSE YOU MADE AN EFFORT.
5:46:32PM MOST OF ALL I WANT TO THANK THE CITY BECAUSE SOME RESOURCES
5:46:35PM HAVE HELPED US.
5:46:38PM BUT WE STILL NEED SOME HELP.
5:46:40PM I WANT YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
5:46:42PM IF NOT THIS BUDGET, MAYBE NEXT BUDGET.
5:46:44PM HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT.
5:46:46PM IT'S AMAZING HOW SEE THESE PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THEIR HOME WHEN
5:46:51PM WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR FIVE YEARS FOR PEOPLE THAT RENT,
5:46:54PM BEEN PUT OUT.
5:46:56PM RENT CONTINUES TO KEEP GOING UP.
5:47:00PM THE BAND-AID THAT WE PUT ON IT IS NOT HELPING.
5:47:03PM HOW DO WE FIND THOSE SOLUTIONS ONCE AGAIN?
5:47:05PM BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.
5:47:09PM IT AMAZES ME NOW THAT'S AFFECTING A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS.
5:47:14PM WILL YOU ALL LISTEN TO THEM NOW BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE
5:47:17PM NOT LISTENING TO US, AND I HAVE TO SAY US BECAUSE IT'S US,
5:47:22PM WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY TO KEEP GIVING.
5:47:26PM I HAD A DISABLED LADY TODAY, A 76-YEAR-OLD LADY GOING TO BE
5:47:29PM EVICTED.
5:47:30PM 76 WITH MENTAL HEALTH ON A FIXED INCOME.
5:47:35PM IT HURT IN MY HEART.
5:47:36PM I CALLED AROUND, TRIED TO FIND THE RESOURCES FOR HER, AND
5:47:39PM I'M STILL HURT.
5:47:41PM HER RENT WENT UP.
5:47:47PM SHE DON'T HAVE, BUT I FOUND HER HELP.
5:47:49PM WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
5:47:52PM YOU WERE VOTED IN FOR A REASON.
5:47:58PM PLEASE DO SOMETHING TO HELP US, NOT YOU, BUT US BECAUSE IF
5:48:02PM IT WEREN'T FOR US YOU WOULDN'T BE THERE.
5:48:04PM AND I THANK YOU.
5:48:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:48:06PM NEXT SPEAKER.
5:48:10PM >> HELLO.
5:48:10PM DARREN SPENCER.
5:48:11PM I LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
5:48:13PM FELLOW DRAGONS ON CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR --
5:48:18PM YEAH, YEAH, FORMER MILITARY, FORMER AIR FORCE, NOW HIGH
5:48:21PM SCHOOL TEACHER AT JEFFERSON, GO DRAGONS.
5:48:23PM I HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF TIME IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS TO REALLY
5:48:26PM LOOK OVER THE MAYOR'S BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S THE BEGINNING OF
5:48:30PM THE SCHOOL YEAR.
5:48:31PM AS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON KNOWS IT IS A BUSY TIME,
5:48:35PM ESPECIALLY WITH THE ADDITIONAL DUTIES WE HAVE.
5:48:37PM I WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING HERE AND MAKE SURE WE
5:48:40PM HAVE THE SPECIAL COUNCIL MEETING TO MAKE SURE WE LOOK AT
5:48:43PM EVERYTHING IN THE BUDGET AND MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING FISCALLY
5:48:45PM RESPONSIBLE.
5:48:46PM I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T RAISE THE TAXES.
5:48:48PM I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULD KEEP IT WHERE IT IS.
5:48:50PM WHAT I'M SAYING IS I HOPE IN THIS MEETING AND THANK YOU ALL
5:48:53PM FOR LISTENING TO ME, I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF SPEAKERS TODAY,
5:48:56PM THAT WE LOOK AT EVERYTHING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING IT
5:48:59PM RIGHT.
5:48:59PM I WENT BACK OVER MY BUDGET OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS WITH MY
5:49:03PM WIFE LAST NIGHT.
5:49:05PM MY PROPERTY TAXES HAVE GONE UP 292%.
5:49:08PM ELECTRIC IS UP.
5:49:10PM WATER HAS ALMOST DOUBLED NOW.
5:49:14PM I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH THAT I'M ABLE TO FIND ROOM IN MY BUDGET
5:49:19PM TO PAY FOR THIS, BUT NOT EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY IS.
5:49:25PM THE KIDS THAT WE TEACH AT JEFFERSON ARE NOT IN THAT
5:49:28PM DEMOGRAPHIC.
5:49:29PM AND I AM SCARED FOR THEIR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD
5:49:35PM LIVING IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY GREW UP IN.
5:49:37PM WE KEEP RAISES THESE PRICES, AT SOME POINT, WHERE IS THAT
5:49:41PM BREAKING POINT?
5:49:41PM JUST ON MY BLOCK THAT I LIVE IN IN SOUTH TAMPA, OUT OF THE
5:49:46PM 14 HOMES THERE, ONLY THREE HAVE NOT CHANGED HANDS IN THE
5:49:49PM LAST FIVE YEARS.
5:49:50PM THAT MEANS IF YOU GO WITH THE MARKET VALUE, 80%, DO ALL THE
5:49:55PM MATH, JUST ONE HOME WENT ON THE MARKET, SOLD FOR
5:49:59PM $1.2 MILLION DOWN THE STREET FROM ME.
5:50:02PM THE HOME THERE BEFORE THE ELDERLY GENTLEMAN PASSED AWAY,
5:50:05PM THAT HOME WAS VALUED AT 125.
5:50:07PM THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY THAT SEEMS TO BE COMING IN.
5:50:11PM LIKE THE LADY WHO SPOKE RECENTLY, MY PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T
5:50:15PM HAVE THE TIME AND THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT IT LIKE YOU HAVE,
5:50:19PM SO I IMPLORE YOU TO LOOK AT THE INCOME, LOOK AT THE
5:50:21PM EXPENSES, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING FISCALLY
5:50:24PM RESPONSIBLE SO THAT WE TAKE CARE OF CURRENT AND THE FUTURE
5:50:28PM GENERATIONS.
5:50:28PM THANK YOU.
5:50:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
5:50:30PM YES, SIR.
5:50:36PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
5:50:39PM JOE JOHNSON, FORMER CHAIR OF YOUR BUDGET AND FINANCE
5:50:42PM COMMITTEE.
5:50:43PM I'M HERE BECAUSE I RECEIVED A BUNCH OF PHONE CALLS FROM
5:50:48PM PEOPLE OF EVERY DISTRICT.
5:50:51PM FOR THREE YEARS I WAS A MEMBER AND I CHAIRED YOUR BUDGET AND
5:50:55PM FINANCE COMMITTEE AND WE'VE ALWAYS -- I WORKED TO LEAD THE
5:51:00PM COMMITTEE AND FIND SAVINGS FOR THE PEOPLE.
5:51:02PM WHEN I GET A CALL AND PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE MILLAGE
5:51:06PM GOING UP, THE MILLAGE GOING UP, EXCUSE ME AND YOUR BUDGET IS
5:51:12PM INCREASING FROM 1.9 BILLION TO $1.92 BILLION, THERE'S MONEY
5:51:18PM TO BE FOUND IN THE BUDGET TO SAVE, TO PREVENT THE
5:51:22PM ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL FROM INCREASING THE MILLAGE.
5:51:26PM YOU KNOW IT.
5:51:27PM I KNOW IT.
5:51:28PM THE ADMINISTRATION KNOWS IT.
5:51:29PM I'M NOT HERE TO ATTACK ANYONE.
5:51:32PM BUT RIGHT NOW, THE MAYOR PRESENTED HER BUDGET TO COUNCIL.
5:51:38PM THE BUDGET IS IN YOUR HANDS.
5:51:40PM IT'S UP TO YOU, COUNCIL, TO SCOUR THROUGH THE BUDGET, LOOK
5:51:46PM AT THE NUMBERS LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM, AND BE FISCAL --
5:51:51PM FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.
5:51:52PM BE GOOD ECONOMIC BUYERS AND CUSTODIANS OF THE PEOPLE'S
5:51:57PM MONEY.
5:51:58PM YEAR OVER YEAR, THIS BUDGET CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
5:52:04PM YOU NOW WANT TO TAX THE PEOPLE.
5:52:06PM MR. ROGERO ALWAYS SAY, GOT GREAT BOND RATING.
5:52:12PM WHY DO WE NEED TO TAX THE PEOPLE MORE?
5:52:14PM AGAIN, I'M JUST HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE AND
5:52:18PM JUST SAY YOU AS A COUNCIL, THE BUDGET IS IN YOUR HANDS NOW.
5:52:22PM TIME FOR TALK IS OVER.
5:52:26PM THERE ARE A LOT OF TALKING POINTS I HEAR.
5:52:29PM YOUR BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE PRESENTED ON 6/22/23.
5:52:34PM YOUR BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE SHOULD BE HERE LISTENING
5:52:36PM TO THESE PEOPLE AND ALSO TAKING NOTES SO THAT THEY CAN GO
5:52:41PM BACK AND MAKE THE SOUND RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL BEFORE
5:52:45PM GOING TO THE FINAL WORKSHOP OF THE BUDGET ADAPTATION.
5:52:51PM SO WITH THAT, I SAID MY PIECE.
5:52:55PM THANK YOU.
5:52:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:52:56PM GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK.
5:52:59PM YES, SIR.
5:53:05PM >> BEFORE I GET GOING, I WANT YOU TO PUT YOUR THINKING CAPS
5:53:08PM ON --
5:53:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NEED YOUR NAME.
5:53:10PM >> I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU IN JUST A SECOND.
5:53:13PM PEDAL TO THE METAL, LANCE WILLIAMS, SOUTH DUNDEE.
5:53:19PM NOW WE'LL GET SERIOUS.
5:53:20PM MAYOR CASTOR'S APPROACH TO TAXES GOES DEEP INTO A PHILOSOPHY
5:53:25PM OF HOW GOVERNMENT GETS TO CONTROL TAXPAYERS.
5:53:29PM THE ADMINISTRATION'S POLICY OF HOW TO DO THAT HAS NEVER BEEN
5:53:32PM A SECRET.
5:53:33PM THE PROGRAM IS CALLED ONE TAMPA.
5:53:37PM IT IS A MIRROR OF WHAT MANY CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE
5:53:41PM IMPOSING, EMBRACING DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION, ALL AT
5:53:46PM TAXPAYERS' EXPENSE.
5:53:48PM IN A LETTER TO THE CITY COUNCIL ANNOUNCING THE TAX HIKE
5:53:52PM PLAN, WE HEAR THE TERM EQUITY.
5:53:55PM AND THE WORD USED REPEATEDLY IN BUDGET PLANS YEAR AFTER
5:53:59PM YEAR, EQUITY.
5:54:00PM WHAT IS EQUITY?
5:54:02PM WELL, THERE IS A CUBAN IMMIGRANT THAT'S GOING TO SPEAK
5:54:07PM BEHIND ME TO TELL YOU WHAT IT'S LIKE, WHAT EQUITY IS LIKE IN
5:54:13PM CASTRO'S COMMUNIST CUBA.
5:54:15PM THIS IS WHAT EQUITY IS.
5:54:18PM IT'S WHERE EVERYONE IS EQUALLY POOR.
5:54:22PM THEY ARE EQUALLY DEPRIVED.
5:54:24PM THEY ARE EQUALLY MISERABLE.
5:54:27PM IS IT EQUITY OR IS IT EQUALITY THAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
5:54:32PM MEN AND WOMEN HAVE DIED OVER THE YEARS TO PROTECT?
5:54:37PM WELL, THEY DIDN'T SACRIFICE SO EVERYONE CAN HAVE ALL THE
5:54:42PM SAME TOYS, THAT'S EQUITY.
5:54:44PM THEY DIED SO EVERYONE COULD HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS AND
5:54:46PM OPPORTUNITIES.
5:54:47PM THAT'S EQUALITY.
5:54:51PM WHAT DOES ALL OF THIS HAVE TO DO WITH AN INCREASE IN THE
5:54:54PM MILLAGE RATE?
5:54:54PM WELL, I HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT IS MEANS.
5:54:58PM ONE, THE MAYOR MENTIONS CREATING 10,000 NEW HOUSING UNITS BY
5:55:03PM 2017.
5:55:04PM SHE ALSO TALKS ABOUT STREAMLINING THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
5:55:09PM THERE IS ONE WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THOSE THINGS AT TAXPAYERS'
5:55:16PM EXPENSE.
5:55:16PM GAINESVILLE IS THE FIRST FLORIDA CITY TO TRY IT.
5:55:20PM THEN REVOKE IT.
5:55:23PM AND THEN REINSTATE IT.
5:55:27PM IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING.
5:55:31PM ONE LOT, ONE HOUSE, ONE FAMILY.
5:55:36PM OPPONENTS, YES, THERE ARE OPPONENTS TO SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING.
5:55:41PM THEY CALL IT EXCLUSIONARY ZONING.
5:55:44PM PLEASE GIVE ME EXTRA TIME ON THIS.
5:55:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU STILL HAVE TIME, GO AHEAD.
5:55:49PM >> RIGHT NOW, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE COUNTRY'S MORE THAN
5:55:52PM 19,000 CITIES, TOWNS, VILLAGES ENJOY SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING IN
5:55:59PM ORDER TO HELP MAINTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD INTEGRITY AND
5:56:02PM CONSISTENCY.
5:56:03PM THOSE WHO CALL IT EXCLUSIONARY SAY THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO
5:56:08PM EVERYBODY.
5:56:11PM EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE ALL THE SAME TOYS, AND THAT'S WHERE
5:56:14PM EQUITY AND YOUR TAXES COME IN.
5:56:16PM IF YOU DO AWAY, THIS IS GOING TO BE AT ONE MORE MINUTE.
5:56:20PM IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD YIELD ME TIME?
5:56:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
5:56:25PM >> IF YOU DO AWAY WITH SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING, IT MEANS YOU
5:56:29PM ALLOW DUPLEXES.
5:56:31PM THIS HAPPENED IN GAINESVILLE.
5:56:36PM IF YOU DO AWAY WITH SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING, IT MEANS YOU ALLOW
5:56:38PM DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, EVEN FOURPLEXES TO BE BUILT IN ANY PART
5:56:44PM OF THE CITY.
5:56:46PM CULBREATH ISLES, BALLAST POINT, MARILYN MANOR, EGYPT LAKE.
5:56:54PM PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD A HOUSE IN ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS,
5:57:00PM WELL, THEY COULD NOW BECAUSE A BUILDER COULD POP UP A
5:57:04PM FOURPLEX NEXT DOOR TO YOU.
5:57:06PM FOUR FAMILIES WHO COULDN'T AFFORD YOUR 200,000 OR 600,000 OR
5:57:10PM MILLION-DOLLAR HOUSE CAN NOW MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF
5:57:14PM THEIR DREAMS FOR ONE-FOURTH -- REMEMBER, IT IS A FOURPLEX --
5:57:18PM FOR ONE-FOURTH THE PRICE.
5:57:22PM I CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE ON THE WATER, AND MAYBE I THINK
5:57:25PM THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR.
5:57:26PM BUT IF SOMEONE BUILT A FOURPLEX IN BEACH PARK ISLES, MAYBE I
5:57:32PM COULD SWING IT.
5:57:33PM IF YOU THINK THAT'S FAIR, MAYBE A TAX INCREASE IS GOOD FOR
5:57:39PM YOU, BECAUSE WITH ALL THOSE NEW RESIDENTS, WE ARE GOING TO
5:57:43PM NEED TO RAISE TAXES TO IMPROVE SCHOOLS, ROADS, HIRE MORE
5:57:50PM POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS OR WE CAN EXPECT ALL OF US TO LIVE
5:57:57PM WITHIN OUR MEANS.
5:57:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:57:59PM >> I'VE GOT TEN MORE SECONDS.
5:58:02PM AND WE COULD HAVE THE CITY LIVE WITHIN ITS MEANS.
5:58:08PM REMEMBER, THE BUDGET HAS GONE UP 9% A YEAR FOR THE LAST FOUR
5:58:12PM YEARS.
5:58:13PM IS THERE ANYBODY OUT HERE WHO HAS GOTTEN A 36% INCREASE IN
5:58:17PM THE LAST FOUR YEARS?
5:58:19PM NO.
5:58:20PM ALMOST DONE.
5:58:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:58:22PM >> ALMOST DONE.
5:58:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, SIR.
5:58:25PM >> WITH THE NEW PHILOSOPHICAL WAY TO MAKE EVERYONE EQUAL --
5:58:29PM PLEASE DON'T TOUCH ME.
5:58:30PM PLEASE DON'T TOUCH ME.
5:58:32PM THIS IS A NEW PHILOSOPHY --
5:58:35PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
5:58:37PM >> TO MAKE EVERYONE EQUAL AT TAXPAYERS' EXPENSE.
5:58:40PM PLEASE LISTEN.
5:58:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
5:58:43PM >> AS FOR ME IN MY HOUSE -- KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF.
5:58:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:58:48PM >> NO, THANK YOU.
5:58:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.
5:58:51PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
5:59:01PM >> JAVIER REYES.
5:59:05PM THREE YEARS AGO, MY AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP.
5:59:14PM IT WAS THE GREATEST DAY OF MY LIFE.
5:59:17PM EVERY DAY MY LIFE BEFORE I LIVED UNDER CASTRO, WE SURVIVE
5:59:23PM OVER THERE.
5:59:24PM FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS.
5:59:31PM WE MADE 25 BUCKS A MONTH AND LIVED IN WHAT WE CALL THE
5:59:34PM NOTEBOOK.
5:59:34PM THE GOVERNMENT GIVE YOU FIVE EGGS, ONE CHICKEN LEG, FIVE
5:59:41PM POUNDS OF RICE AND YOU NEED TO MAKE YOUR LIFE WITH THAT.
5:59:44PM THAT'S WHAT THE GOVERNMENT DOES.
5:59:46PM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY WHO DOES.
5:59:53PM ONE OF THE BEST JOBS IN CUBA IS TO WHERE YOU CAN GET TIPS
5:59:59PM AND TRYING TO SURVIVE.
6:00:01PM SINCE THEN, I WAS TRYING TO GET OUT OF THERE AND PLAN MY
6:00:08PM LIFE HERE IN AMERICA.
6:00:09PM BUT IT TOOK ABOUT THREE YEARS BEFORE I ESCAPE AND I MADE MY
6:00:18PM WIFE, MY AMERICAN WIFE AND ARRIVED TO AMERICA WHERE FREEDOM
6:00:26PM IS THE GREATEST THING.
6:00:27PM HAMBURGERS.
6:00:28PM NOBODY IS CHASING YOU.
6:00:32PM YOU HAVE FOOD EVERYWHERE.
6:00:33PM BUT GOVERNMENT HERE IS LIKE CASTRO THERE.
6:00:38PM THEY JUST DEMAND.
6:00:41PM THEY JUST WANT THINGS AND THEY WANT IT.
6:00:46PM I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS DREAM THAT EVERYBODY HAS.
6:00:50PM I DON'T THINK THIS IS WHAT WE ESCAPED FROM A POOR COUNTRY
6:00:57PM WHERE WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT TO SAY WHAT WE WANT OR WHAT WE
6:00:59PM NEED OR WHERE OUR SALARY GOES.
6:01:02PM SO, PLEASE, 60%, HAS ANYBODY SIT IN OUR CHAIRS AND THINK
6:01:08PM WHAT'S GOING ON WITH US?
6:01:11PM IS IT RIGHT?
6:01:12PM THANK YOU.
6:01:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:01:14PM IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK?
6:01:18PM IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO THE PRESENTATION FROM THE STAFF AND THE
6:01:22PM ADMINISTRATION AND THEN FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT SPOKEN,
6:01:25PM YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK AFTER AS WELL.
6:01:27PM YES, SIR.
6:01:28PM CHIEF BENNETT.
6:01:30PM WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION ON OUR SCREEN, IF WE CAN PUT IT ON
6:01:40PM THE MAIN SCREEN.
6:01:41PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:01:42PM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD EVENING.
6:01:44PM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
6:01:46PM GOOD MORNING, GOOD AFTERNOON, GOOD EVENING TO THE PUBLIC
6:01:49PM ACTUALLY.
6:01:50PM LONG DAY, OF COURSE.
6:01:51PM WE'RE HAPPY TO STAY AS LONG AS NECESSARY.
6:01:54PM ON BEHALF OF MAYOR CASTOR, WE APPRECIATE COUNCIL HOLDING
6:01:58PM THIS WORKSHOP CENTERED ON THE FY FISCAL YEAR '24 BUDGET WITH
6:02:01PM A PARTICULAR FOCUS ON THE REQUESTED RESOURCES TO MEET THE
6:02:05PM REQUIRED LEVEL OF SERVICES AND CORE PREVENTIVE AND RESPONSE
6:02:08PM FUNCTIONS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
6:02:09PM WE HAVE JUST A FEW SLIDES BASED ON INITIAL FEEDBACK FROM
6:02:14PM COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AND THEN STAFF IS HAPPY TO BE
6:02:16PM RESPONSIVE TO ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND BEYOND.
6:02:19PM WE PREPARED SOME DECISION SUPPORT DATA FOR THIS EVENING
6:02:21PM BASED ON QUESTIONS FROM LAST WEEK.
6:02:24PM HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE ANY REQUESTS THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL
6:02:26PM ANALYSES, WE CAN BRING THAT BACK BY THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING
6:02:29PM AND LOAD IT INTO THE AGENDA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AS RELEVANT
6:02:33PM FOR THE PUBLIC'S VIEWING.
6:02:34PM BRING UP THE FIRST SLIDE.
6:02:37PM FIRST AND FOREMOST, AS ALWAYS, I'D LIKE TO COLLABORATE AND
6:02:41PM CORROBORATE THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC AS OUR LEVEL
6:02:43PM OF SERVICE PRIORITIES ARE DEMONSTRATED CONSISTENTLY OVER THE
6:02:47PM PAST FOUR YEARS.
6:02:48PM THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS, ONE, THAT THERE HAS BEEN A HIGH LEVEL OF
6:02:51PM TRUST IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AND THAT THE STATISTICALLY VALID
6:02:54PM SURVEYS INDICATE THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES OF EXPECTATIONS OF
6:02:58PM CORE SERVICE DEMANDS.
6:02:59PM WE HAVE OUR ADMINISTRATORS AND CHIEFS HERE THIS EVENING TO
6:03:03PM ADDRESS THE BROAD AND NARROW SCOPE OF SERVICES AS REQUESTED
6:03:06PM AND IDENTIFIED IN THE FISCAL 24 AND 5 YEAR CAPITAL
6:03:11PM IMPROVEMENT BUDGET PROPOSAL.
6:03:13PM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
6:03:14PM ADDITIONALLY, THIS NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE CUSTOMER SERVICE
6:03:18PM CENTER APPORTIONMENT OF COMMUNITY CONCERNS WITHIN THESE CORE
6:03:22PM SERVICE FUNCTIONS, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CONCERNS
6:03:25PM EMBEDDED IN THESE FIVE AREAS OF POLICING, FIRE RESCUE,
6:03:28PM HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, PARKS AND RECREATION, AND SAFE
6:03:32PM ROADWAYS CORROBORATE THE LONGITUDINAL OR YEAR OVER YEAR DATA
6:03:36PM OF REAL-TIME REQUESTS.
6:03:37PM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
6:03:39PM FURTHERMORE, THIS SOURCES AND USES SLIDE DEMONSTRATES THAT
6:03:44PM THE CITYWIDE AVERAGE WOULD POINT SERVICES INTO THE
6:03:48PM RECOMMENDED PERCENTAGES ON THE RIGHT, NOTING THAT THREE OF
6:03:50PM THE CATEGORIES SUPPORT PREVENTIVE LEVELS OF SERVICE AND, OF
6:03:53PM COURSE, FIRE RESCUE AND POLICE TEND TO BE RESPONSE
6:03:56PM FUNCTIONS, ALBEIT THAT BOTH DEPARTMENTS ALSO HAVE HIGH
6:04:00PM LEVELS OF PREVENTION ENGAGEMENT IN THEIR STRATEGIC FOCUS
6:04:04PM UNDER THEIR CORE MISSION.
6:04:06PM NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
6:04:07PM I'D LIKE NOW TO PIVOT QUICKLY TO SOME SOURCE DATA THAT SHOWS
6:04:11PM THE FOUR COUNCIL DISTRICTS RELATIONSHIP TO THE JUST VALUE
6:04:14PM FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER AGAINST PROGRAMMATIC TAX CAPS
6:04:19PM RELATED TO SAVE OUR HOMES AND NOTE THAT THE JUST VALUE
6:04:22PM PROPERTY APPRAISER DEMONSTRATES AN AVERAGE OF 183% OF THE
6:04:26PM TAXABLE VALUE SHOWN BETWEEN THE BLUE BUBBLE AND THE GREEN
6:04:30PM BUBBLE.
6:04:30PM WITH NO FUTURE GUARANTEE OF SURTAX SUPPORT, WE WERE TRYING
6:04:34PM TO FOCUS THAT OUR TAMPA COMMUNITY IS WELL GUARDED INTO THE
6:04:38PM FUTURE AND OUR TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS ARE ASKING FOR THE
6:04:41PM INPUT OR THE RESOURCES AND SUPPORT TO DELIVER THE SERVICES
6:04:45PM IDENTIFIED THAT WE AS CITY LEADERSHIP HAVE HEARD.
6:04:47PM MY LAST SLIDE, LAST TWO SLIDES.
6:04:51PM MY FINAL SLIDE BEFORE A QUICK SERVICE PRIORITY RECAP WITH
6:04:56PM STAFF ENDS IN AN ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF
6:05:00PM OUR FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT OR FTE DATA IN THE FY '24 BUDGET
6:05:04PM RECOMMENDATION.
6:05:05PM FIRST, PLEASE NOTE THAT DESPITE THE HIGHER EXPECTATIONS OF
6:05:09PM LEVELS OF SERVICE AND CLOSING DEFERRED MAINTENANCE GAPS AND
6:05:12PM MANAGING GROWTH, THE CITY IS STILL BELOW THE FTE COUNT
6:05:16PM PRERECESSION DATING BACK TO 2007.
6:05:19PM THIS IS NO SECRET WHICH LEADS ME TO THE NEXT POINT OF OUR
6:05:22PM FTE ASSESSMENT SHOWN IN BOTH TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY
6:05:26PM WITHIN THE FY '24 PROPOSAL.
6:05:29PM WHAT YOU SEE IN THAT PROPOSAL IS RECLASSIFICATION,
6:05:32PM REDUCTIONS AND REQUESTS ARE ALL MAYOR CASTOR'S EFFORTS TO
6:05:36PM ENSURE THAT ANY ELONGATED OPEN POSITIONS ARE BEING
6:05:39PM REEVALUATED FOR BOTH NECESSITY AND POTENTIAL JOB DESCRIPTION
6:05:42PM UPDATING BEFORE FINALIZING THOSE POSITIONS.
6:05:45PM LASTLY, THE STRATEGIC FOCUS FROM OUR OFFICE TO TRY TO
6:05:50PM SUSTAIN A 5% ATTRITION VACANCY GOAL AND SIMULTANEOUSLY MAKE
6:05:54PM SURE THAT WE ARE ALIGNED WITH RECRUITING AND RETAINING THE
6:05:57PM BEST AND BRIGHTEST WITHIN ALL CLASSIFICATIONS TO OPTIMIZE
6:06:00PM THE EFFICIENCY, EFFECTIVENESS, AND EQUITY.
6:06:04PM AND I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE EQUITY FOR US MEANS LEVEL OF
6:06:07PM SERVICE.
6:06:07PM WE WANT THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE AT EVERY SINGLE DOORSTEP,
6:06:11PM WHETHER IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY, WALKABILITY, SAFE ROADS AND
6:06:14PM HOUSING.
6:06:15PM BY COMPARISON, I RECENTLY SPOKEN TO INTERNATIONAL EXPERTS,
6:06:21PM IDENTIFYING IN THE SPACE OF THE FULL-TIME EQUIVALENCE THAT
6:06:26PM THE NATIONAL GAPS ARE RUNNING BETWEEN 10 AND 30 PERCENT OF
6:06:29PM THE VACANCY REPORTS IN GOVERNMENT AS COMPARED TO OUR 5%
6:06:32PM ATTRITION GOAL.
6:06:33PM YOU CAN SEE THE CATEGORICAL ALIGNMENT BASED ON THE GENERAL
6:06:38PM FUND AND ENTERPRISE RESOURCES HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SCREEN.
6:06:42PM AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ONE QUICK EXAMPLE OF THE WORK
6:06:45PM RELATIONSHIP AS IT PARLAYS INTO THE FTE SPACE, IS IN OUR
6:06:50PM GRANTS.
6:06:50PM WHEN YOU SEE THE INCREASE OF OUR GRANTS IN THE BUDGET,
6:06:53PM SEEKING THOSE GRANTS, WRITING THOSE GRANTS, DELIVERING THOSE
6:06:56PM GRANTS AND AUDITING AND ACCOUNTING FOR OTHER MONEY IS
6:07:01PM ENORMOUS INCREASE OF RESOURCE DOLLARS AND TAKES A LOT OF
6:07:03PM SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE AND TIME AND EFFORT.
6:07:05PM NOW, I QUICKLY WILL HAND IT OVER TO THE ADMINISTRATORS AND
6:07:08PM THE CHIEFS TO DO A VERY LIGHT RECAP, BUT TO DRILL DOWN ON
6:07:12PM THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED OF US OVER THE LAST WEEK.
6:07:15PM STARTING WITH JEAN DUNCAN.
6:07:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, CHIEF.
6:07:20PM CAN YOU GO BACK TO I THINK THE SECOND SLIDE?
6:07:22PM I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO GO FAST BUT I WAS UNCLEAR.
6:07:26PM ONE MORE.
6:07:31PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT'S IN OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER DATA
6:07:33PM OVER THE LAST ALMOST FIVE FISCAL YEARS.
6:07:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE BACK.
6:07:43PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY VALUE --
6:07:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE FORWARD THEN.
6:07:47PM RIGHT NOW --
6:07:54PM I HAD A QUESTION.
6:07:59PM I'M SO SORRY.
6:08:00PM I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN IT DOWN.
6:08:01PM SORRY.
6:08:02PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JEAN DUNCAN OVER OUR MOBILITY AND
6:08:06PM INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE FOLLOWED BY THE REST OF STAFF
6:08:08PM QUICKLY.
6:08:10PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
6:08:11PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
6:08:12PM APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
6:08:13PM COUNCIL, WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT OUR RESIDENTS WANT OUR ROADS
6:08:16PM TO BE IMPROVED.
6:08:19PM TWICE THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA VOTED TO APPROVE THE DEDICATED
6:08:21PM TRANSPORTATION SALES TAX.
6:08:23PM THE LONGER WE KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, THE MORE THE COSTS
6:08:28PM RISE EXPONENTIALLY.
6:08:30PM A ONE MILL INCREASE CAN START TO HAVE AN IMPACT AND MOVE THE
6:08:36PM NEEDLE ON DECADES OF ROAD MAINTENANCE NEEDS.
6:08:39PM OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE COULD INCREASE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
6:08:41PM PAVING COVERAGE FROM 30 PROJECTS TO ABOUT HUNDRED
6:08:46PM NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS.
6:08:47PM IN FIVE YEARS, WE COULD ALSO EXPAND OUR CITYWIDE SIDEWALK
6:08:52PM NETWORK FROM 2.5 MILES TO OVER 17 MILES.
6:08:55PM AND WE COULD INCREASE OUR INTERSECTION SAFETY IMPROVEMENT
6:08:59PM PROJECTS FROM 5 TO 25 LOCATIONS --
6:09:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WENT OFF ON OUR SCREENS.
6:09:04PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: -- THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
6:09:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE GO.
6:09:07PM GO AHEAD.
6:09:09PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
6:09:10PM THANK YOU.
6:09:12PM 40% OF OUR ROADS THROUGHOUT ALL AREAS OF THE CITY ARE IN
6:09:15PM POOR CONDITION WITH MANY OTHERS IN THE AT-RISK CATEGORY.
6:09:19PM TO REBUILD, CITY STREET IS AT LEAST FIVE TIMES MORE THAN THE
6:09:25PM COST TO REPAVE.
6:09:26PM EVERY DAY MORE ROADS ARE FALLING INTO THE MUST REBUILD
6:09:30PM CATEGORY.
6:09:31PM AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WE'VE HAD OVER 400 CLAIMS FOR POTHOLE
6:09:35PM DAMAGE AND THE AVERAGE COST OF A REALIGNMENT IS ABOUT $200.
6:09:40PM THIS IS THE SAME AS THE YEARLY COST FOR ONE MILL INCREASE
6:09:44PM FOR AN AVERAGE HOME.
6:09:45PM AS I MENTIONED, CURRENTLY, WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE PAVING
6:09:50PM IMPROVEMENTS TO ABOUT 30 NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS OVER A FIVE-YEAR
6:09:55PM TIME FRAME.
6:09:55PM WITH THE PROPOSED ONE MILL INCREASE WE CAN EXPAND OUR
6:10:05PM COVERAGE TO ABOUT A HUNDRED NEIGHBORHOOD AREAS THROUGHOUT
6:10:08PM THE CITY.
6:10:10PM MY LAST SLIDE, PLEASE.
6:10:11PM WE CAN ALSO START TO CHIP AWAY AT OUR EXTENSIVE SIDEWALK
6:10:15PM NEEDS.
6:10:15PM WE HAVE OVER 1300 MILES OF SIDEWALK GAPS AROUND SCHOOLS AND
6:10:21PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
6:10:21PM IT WILL ACTUALLY TAKE AT LEAST $50 MILLION A YEAR TO FILL
6:10:27PM ALL THOSE GAPS OVER A 25-YEAR TIME FRAME.
6:10:30PM THAT'S JUST FOR SIDEWALKS.
6:10:31PM WE CAN'T KEEP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
6:10:34PM OUR RESIDENTS WANT MORE.
6:10:35PM MY COLLEAGUE WILL SHARE HER INFORMATION NEXT, TAMPA FIRE
6:10:40PM CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP.
6:10:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHIEF OF STAFF, I HAD A LOT OF
6:10:47PM CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL PRIVATELY ABOUT THIS.
6:10:49PM I JUST HAVE TO SAY I OBJECT.
6:10:52PM I MADE A MOTION AND CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED TO
6:10:54PM CREATE A SIDEWALK PLAN FOUR YEARS AGO AND IT WAS CONFINED
6:10:59PM WITH THE MOBILITY PLAN.
6:11:00PM THE PLAN JUST GOT FINISHED.
6:11:02PM THE COMMUNITY TOLD US FOUR YEARS AGO THAT SIDEWALKS WERE A
6:11:06PM PRIORITY.
6:11:06PM THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN TELLING US FOUR YEARS THAT REPAVING
6:11:10PM ROADS WAS A PRIORITY.
6:11:11PM WE WENT TO THE ADMINISTRATION EVERY YEAR AND EVERY MONTH AND
6:11:13PM SAID THE COMMUNITY IS TELLING US, BUT THE BUDGETS WEREN'T
6:11:16PM INCREASED.
6:11:16PM AND I WOULD JUST APPRECIATE IF THE STAFF, WHAT I OBJECT TO
6:11:21PM IS I DON'T WANT THE STAFF TO CONVINCE US OF THE THING WE'VE
6:11:24PM BEEN TRYING TO CONVINCE STAFF OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
6:11:29PM EVERYBODY AGREES ON THE PRIORITIES.
6:11:30PM LET'S PLEASE HAVE A COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO THIS.
6:11:32PM WE DON'T HAVE TO BE SOLD ON THE PRIORITIES.
6:11:34PM WE KNOW THEM.
6:11:35PM THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SOLD.
6:11:37PM THE ISSUE IS WHETHER THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SPEND MORE MONEY ON
6:11:40PM THIS OR NOT.
6:11:40PM THAT'S REALLY THE ISSUE.
6:11:42PM NOBODY SHOULD LEAVE HERE THINKING THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS TO
6:11:44PM BE CONVINCED OF THAT.
6:11:46PM IT'S OBJECTIONABLE.
6:11:47PM I ASKED YOU ALL PRIVATELY PLEASE DO NOT DO THAT IN THIS
6:11:50PM PRESENTATION.
6:11:50PM I HOPE NOBODY ELSE WILL DO IT.
6:11:52PM THANK YOU.
6:11:53PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
6:11:55PM IN REPLY TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WE DO AGREE ON THE
6:11:58PM PRIORITIES, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE BRINGING THEM FORWARD TO MAKE
6:12:00PM SURE THAT WE OFFER YOU THE DECISION SUPPORT ON THE
6:12:03PM GRANULARITY OF EACH ONE OF THOSE AREAS AND TO SHOW THAT
6:12:06PM BETWEEN THE SURVEYS, THE CUSTOMER SERVICE REQUEST AND THEN,
6:12:10PM OF COURSE, THE DOLLARS THAT ARE PARTITIONED OFF OF THIS FOR
6:12:14PM THE PUBLIC'S SAKE TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE THOSE DOLLARS
6:12:18PM WOULD SUPPORT WITH EVERYBODY'S APPROVAL.
6:12:20PM SO THIS WASN'T DESIGNED TO BE THAT.
6:12:21PM IT WAS DESIGNED TO SPEAK OUT TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE IT WAS
6:12:24PM ONLY TEN DAYS AGO WE GAVE THE FIRST PRESENTATION.
6:12:27PM SO I THINK WE ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE ALIGNED IN THESE
6:12:30PM PRIORITIES.
6:12:31PM WE'RE JUST TRYING TO SHOW THE GRANULARITY BASED ON THE
6:12:33PM QUESTIONS THAT WE GOT BACK FROM COUNCIL OVER THE LAST TEN
6:12:36PM DAYS.
6:12:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
6:12:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. DUNCAN, CAN YOU COME BACK TO THE
6:12:44PM PODIUM AND CLARIFY?
6:12:45PM I DON'T FEEL THAT THERE'S ANY OPPOSITION, IF THEY ASKED FOR
6:12:48PM IT FOUR YEARS AGO AND YOU'RE ASKING FOR IT NOW, WHAT IS THAT
6:12:53PM DIFFERENCE OR DOES THAT EVEN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS TERM?
6:12:56PM BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD,
6:12:59PM DEFERRING PROJECTS AND NOW I'M HEARING FROM YOU THAT IF THE
6:13:05PM MILLAGE IS PASSED, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO 17 MILES VERSUS A
6:13:10PM HUNDRED MILES.
6:13:11PM CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT, PLEASE?
6:13:12PM I DIDN'T HEAR THE OPPOSITION FROM YOU.
6:13:14PM I JUST HEARD WHAT YOU WERE PRESENTING.
6:13:16PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OBJECTION IS FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
6:13:18PM THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
6:13:19PM WELL, FROM HER FIRST.
6:13:22PM YOU DID OBJECT AFTER SHE SPOKE.
6:13:26PM I JUST WANT TO HEAR IT FROM YOU TO COUNTER WHAT HE WAS
6:13:32PM SAYING SO I CAN HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING.
6:13:34PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, I APOLOGIZE IF THIS SOUNDED LIKE SOME
6:13:37PM SORT OF HARD SALE OR THAT YOU ALL AREN'T COMPLETELY AWARE OF
6:13:42PM OUR NEEDS.
6:13:43PM THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
6:13:44PM YOU ARE AWARE OF OUR NEEDS.
6:13:46PM YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON YOUR SIDE ALONG WITH US TO THE BEST
6:13:49PM EXTENT POSSIBLE.
6:13:50PM WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS SHOW A CONTEXT OF WHAT WE COULD
6:13:52PM DO WITH THIS AMOUNT MORE.
6:13:56PM AGAIN, EVEN WITH THE PENNY, IT WOULDN'T BE ENOUGH FOR
6:13:59PM TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY DECADES OF A
6:14:03PM LACK OF DEDICATED FUNDING.
6:14:05PM HOWEVER, WE CAN START SOMEWHERE AND THAT GAINS TRACTION.
6:14:10PM WE CAN LEVERAGE THE FUNDS, GRANTS MISSING OUT FROM THE STATE
6:14:13PM AND THE FEDS.
6:14:14PM WE CAN MAXIMIZE OR INVEST IT.
6:14:16PM WE CAN HIT OUR MOST CRITICAL AREAS SO THEY DON'T GET ANY
6:14:19PM WORSE AND OUR COSTS DON'T KEEP GOING UP.
6:14:23PM THAT WAS MY INTENT.
6:14:23PM I APOLOGIZE IF IT CAME OFF TOO STRONG.
6:14:26PM CLEARLY, WE ALL KNOW ROADS ARE SOMETHING OF CONCERN WITH ALL
6:14:29PM OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
6:14:30PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL TO SHARE WITH US
6:14:33PM HIS NEEDS IN HIS AREA TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING THOSE.
6:14:36PM WE DON'T HAVE MORE ACCIDENTS OR MORE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH
6:14:39PM THOSE.
6:14:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: RIGHT.
6:14:41PM THAT PRIORITY MAP WHERE YOU PUT IT UP, CAN YOU GO BACK,
6:14:44PM WHOEVER IS RUNNING THE SLIDES --
6:14:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO THE SIDEWALK?
6:14:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GO BACK AGAIN.
6:14:51PM ONE MORE.
6:14:52PM THAT.
6:14:52PM THAT IS WITH THE MILLAGE INCREASE BECAUSE THE PRIOR ONE
6:14:56PM CURRENTLY IS RED.
6:14:57PM THERE ARE THINGS BEING WORKED ON AT A CERTAIN RATE RIGHT NOW
6:15:00PM AND A CERTAIN PRICE THAT'S ALREADY IN OUR BUDGET, AND THEN
6:15:03PM THIS IS, WE CAN DO MORE.
6:15:05PM DO YOU KNOW THE PERCENTAGE?
6:15:06PM FROM 17 MILES TO A HUNDRED MILES MORE OF COVERAGE EQUATES TO
6:15:14PM WHAT IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS?
6:15:15PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I DON'T HAVE THAT CALCULATION.
6:15:17PM WHAT I TRIED TO DO WAS FOR PAVINGS, MAKE A NEIGHBORHOOD
6:15:22PM COMPARISON.
6:15:22PM FOR SIDEWALK, MAKE A MILES COMPARISON, AND FOR INTERSECTION
6:15:26PM SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, MAKE A LOCATION COMPARISON JUST TO TRY
6:15:31PM TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT THE IMPACT IS.
6:15:33PM WHEN YOU TALK DOLLARS, MILLION DOLLARS TO ONE PERSON, THAT
6:15:36PM MEANS A LOT, BUT TO US TRYING TO BUILD A ROAD WHICH COSTS A
6:15:40PM MILLION DOLLARS JUST TO BUILD ONE MILE OF SIDEWALK IS NOT A
6:15:43PM LOT.
6:15:44PM SO JUST TRYING TO GIVE A COMPARISON SO PEOPLE COULD GET
6:15:47PM THEIR HEAD AROUND.
6:15:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:15:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
6:15:53PM I THINK YOUR POINT IS WELL MADE.
6:15:54PM SO MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE NICE TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH A MILE OF
6:15:58PM PAVING IS VERSUS A MILE OF REDOING A ROAD.
6:16:01PM I THINK THAT WOULD HELP THE PUBLIC ALSO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE,
6:16:05PM YEAH, THOSE ARE REALLY BIG NUMBERS AND IT'S SO INTERESTING
6:16:09PM THAT IN OUR JOB NOW WHERE WE ARE, WE HAVE REALLY BIG NUMBERS
6:16:13PM THAT ARE BASICALLY PART OF OUR BUDGET.
6:16:15PM SO IF YOU COULD GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES.
6:16:21PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: IF I COULD MENTION, I DID SHARE AS A
6:16:25PM COMPARATIVE BECAUSE IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE LOCATION AND
6:16:27PM THE TYPE OF ROAD, GENERALLY IT'S ABOUT FIVE TIMES MORE TO
6:16:30PM REBUILD VERSUS REPAVE, JUST AS AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.
6:16:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
6:16:36PM AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAY, THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE
6:16:41PM CHANCE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REBUILD A ROAD INSTEAD OF
6:16:43PM REPAVE A ROAD.
6:16:45PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES.
6:16:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BACK TO WHERE YOU HAD THE CUTE STOPLIGHTS,
6:16:50PM THERE WE ARE.
6:16:51PM IT IS A GREAT VISUAL.
6:16:52PM THANK YOU.
6:16:52PM BUT MY CONCERN IS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, YOU'RE SAYING
6:16:56PM THAT EXISTING WE CAN DO 30 MILES, BUT WITH THE MILLAGE
6:17:00PM INCREASE --
6:17:01PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: 30 NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS.
6:17:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 30 NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECTS.
6:17:04PM WITH THE MILLAGE INCREASE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WE COULD
6:17:07PM DO A HUNDRED.
6:17:08PM I'M WONDERING WHY THAT ISN'T A MULTITUDE OF FIVE.
6:17:11PM WHY WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO 150 PROJECTS INSTEAD OF A
6:17:16PM HUNDRED?
6:17:19PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: 5 TIMES 30.
6:17:21PM YEAH, IT'S NOT A DIRECT CALCULATION.
6:17:24PM WE DID IT BASED ON THE ROADS THAT WE HAVE, WHETHER REBUILD
6:17:28PM OR REPAVE, THE LENGTHS OF THE ROADS IN DIFFERENT
6:17:31PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
6:17:31PM IT WAS A SORT OF MULTIFACETED METHODOLOGY TO GET TO THE 100.
6:17:36PM WE DO KNOW IT WILL BE A LITTLE OVER A HUNDRED.
6:17:39PM THIS PURPOSE OF THIS TYPE OF PRESENTATION, THAT'S OUR
6:17:43PM BACK-OF-THE-NAPKIN ESTIMATE WITHOUT MORE DETAIL.
6:17:46PM BUT, OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS TRY TO EXPAND OUR COVERAGE AS MUCH
6:17:49PM AS WE CAN, AND IN TERMS OF THE EQUITY MENTIONED, WE'RE
6:17:54PM ALWAYS MAKING SURE THAT THINGS ARE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE
6:17:56PM CITY IN FAIRNESS TO EVERYONE.
6:17:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT -- I'M LOOKING AT THE
6:18:03PM SCHEDULE OF REVENUE AND EXPENSES BY FUND.
6:18:05PM I'M LOOKING AT 40,100.
6:18:08PM SO PARKING OPERATIONS.
6:18:10PM AND THIS OTHER LINE JUST IS GETTING ME.
6:18:13PM I HAVE QUESTIONS ON ALMOST EVERY PAGE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW
6:18:17PM WHAT "OTHER" MEANS.
6:18:18PM BUT FOR OTHER IN PARKING OPERATIONS, FOR FY 2023, IT WAS
6:18:22PM $5 MILLION.
6:18:24PM AND FOR FY 2024 RECOMMENDED, IT'S 25 MILLION.
6:18:29PM CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHERE THAT EXTRA 20 MILLION IS GOING AND WHY
6:18:32PM WE COULDN'T PUT IT TOWARDS TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS?
6:18:35PM BECAUSE $20 MILLION IN ONE YEAR IS A REALLY LARGE JUMP.
6:18:39PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I APOLOGIZE I DON'T HAVE THAT.
6:18:42PM DO YOU HAVE ANY DETAIL ON THAT, NICK?
6:18:46PM IS IT NICK'S ANSWER IS ADEQUATE, WE CAN GET BACK.
6:18:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T EXPECT ANYONE TONIGHT TO HAVE ANSWERS
6:18:56PM OUT OF THEIR POCKET, BUT TO BRING IT UP AND TALK ABOUT IT A
6:18:59PM LITTLE BIT, IF NOT, WE CAN CERTAINLY GET INFORMATION TO THEN
6:19:02PM SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC LATER.
6:19:04PM >>VIK BHIDE: VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
6:19:06PM SO IN 2020, COUNCIL SUPPORTED AND APPROVED A BUDGET --
6:19:11PM SORRY, A RATE INCREASE AND A POLICY INCREASE WITH PARKING.
6:19:17PM THIS WAS MUCH NEEDED BECAUSE RATES HADN'T BEEN ADJUSTED FOR
6:19:20PM DECADES AND NEEDED FOR VARIOUS REASONS AMONG WHICH IS
6:19:24PM MOBILITY BENEFITS.
6:19:25PM SO AS PART OF THAT, WE HAVE MORE REVENUES TODAY IN PARKING
6:19:31PM WHICH MAINLY WILL GO TOWARDS A LOT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE
6:19:35PM IN PARKING ITSELF.
6:19:36PM SO 15.8 OF THAT $20 MILLION IS GOING TO GO TOWARDS VARIOUS
6:19:42PM PROJECTS, AND I CAN PROVIDE DETAILS ON THAT, BUT IT GOES
6:19:46PM TOWARDS ELEVATOR REPAIRS, UPGRADES TO THE GARAGES, UPGRADES
6:19:51PM AS IN STRUCTURAL UPGRADES TO THE GARAGES FOR THREE OF THEM.
6:19:55PM IT GOES TOWARDS THE PARKING GUIDANCE SYSTEM, WHICH IS A $7
6:19:59PM MILLION ITEM, WHICH IS NEEDED IN OUR URBAN CORE WITH THE
6:20:05PM FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND.
6:20:06PM AND VARIOUS OTHER ELEMENTS THAT, AGAIN, WE DID NOT HAVE THE
6:20:12PM REVENUES TO FUNDS THE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.
6:20:14PM WHAT YOU SEE WITH PAVING, OUR ROADS AND SIDEWALKS, THE SAME
6:20:17PM CHALLENGES HAVE PILED UP OVER TIME WITH OUR PARKING
6:20:21PM RESOURCES AS WELL.
6:20:21PM THE GOOD NEWS BEHIND THAT IS, ONE, NOT ONLY DOES PARKING NOT
6:20:26PM HAVE RESOURCES, BUT PARKING IS REDIRECTING THEM TOWARDS
6:20:31PM MOBILITY PRIORITIES.
6:20:32PM SO WE USE PARKING REVENUES FOR CITYWIDE SIDEWALK REPAIR
6:20:37PM PROGRAM, WHICH OVER FOUR YEARS WILL ELIMINATE 90% OF
6:20:41PM TRIP-AND-FALL HAZARDS ON EXISTING SIDEWALK.
6:20:45PM THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 1300 PLUS MILES OF GAPS.
6:20:48PM WE ARE USING PARKING REVENUES TO FUND ADDITIONAL STREETCAR
6:20:57PM OPERATIONS THAT ALLOWED US TO GO FROM 15- AND 17-MINUTE
6:20:59PM HEADWAYS TO 12-MINUTE HEADWAYS.
6:21:03PM WE ARE USING PARKING REVENUES FOR EXPANDING NOT JUST ON THE
6:21:07PM DEMAND SIDE OF TRANSPORTATION WITH ROADWAYS AND BIKEWAYS,
6:21:10PM BUT ALSO IN SUPPLY SITE WITH THE E-BIKE VOUCHER PROGRAM,
6:21:14PM WHICH IS INCOME QUALIFIED AND GIVES MORE TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE
6:21:18PM LESSER MEANS.
6:21:19PM SO WE'RE BEING CREATIVE WITH OUR PARKING RESOURCES.
6:21:23PM IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL IDEAS, OF COURSE, WE'RE OPEN TO
6:21:26PM THAT.
6:21:27PM AND THEN ON THE PAVING PIECE, WHY IS IT NOT FIVEFOLD
6:21:32PM INCREASE, MAINLY BECAUSE WHAT WE WOULD INVEST IN INITIALLY
6:21:35PM IS GOING TO BE THE MOST PRESSING NEEDS SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE
6:21:40PM TO -- SO THAT WE DON'T GET INTO REBUILD CYCLE, WE GET BACK
6:21:45PM INTO REPAVE CYCLE IN ESSENCE.
6:21:47PM AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE MOST EXPENSIVE PROJECTS EARLY
6:21:51PM ON AS INFORMED BY THE MOVES PLAN.
6:21:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
6:21:57PM IF THERE IS A WAY, I WOULD LOVE FOR A BREAKDOWN OF THE OTHER
6:21:59PM EXPENSES COLUMN TO WHAT THAT 25 MILLION IS GOING TOWARD.
6:22:02PM I THINK THAT US, AS A COUNCIL, WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE
6:22:06PM THAT, ESPECIALLY IF SOME OF THAT IS GOING TO HELP GO TOWARDS
6:22:13PM PARKING GARAGES TO MAYBE INCREASE THE -- IF YOU COULD SEND
6:22:19PM ME THE LIST, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
6:22:22PM THAT WAY WE CAN KNOW AND THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW, BUT IF WHAT
6:22:24PM YOU'RE SAYING IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE -- SO JUST A QUICK
6:22:28PM ASIDE, I'M GUESSING THAT THE PARKING PROGRAM YOU'RE TALKING
6:22:33PM ABOUT IS LIKE ONE OF THOSE FLASHING THINGS THAT TELLS YOU
6:22:38PM HOW MANY SPOTS ARE AVAILABLE.
6:22:39PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE GUIDANCE SYSTEM IS, THAT'S CORRECT.
6:22:41PM AND IT INTEGRATES WITH SIGNALS IN THE GARAGES AS WELL.
6:22:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT OUR PARKING SPOTS
6:22:49PM ARE FULL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WHICH WOULD HELP INCREASE THE
6:22:52PM REVENUE WE WOULD GET FROM THEM.
6:22:53PM >>VIK BHIDE: CORRECT.
6:22:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND THEN COUNCILMAN
6:22:57PM MIRANDA.
6:22:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. DUNCAN AND MR. BHIDE.
6:23:00PM I HAVE THE LUXURY OF NOT BEING ON THE LAST COUNCIL.
6:23:06PM I GET TO START FRESH ON A LOT OF THESE THINGS.
6:23:10PM I WANT TO EXPRESS, ONE, I ENVISION THIS WORKSHOP AS AN
6:23:15PM OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE NOT JUST WITH THE MEMBERS SITTING AT
6:23:17PM THE DAIS BECAUSE WE ALL MET WITH YOU GUYS COUNTLESS TIMES
6:23:20PM THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS ABOUT BUDGETARY ISSUES, BUT KIND OF
6:23:23PM BEING ABLE TO SHARE THE SAME THINGS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE
6:23:25PM SHARED WITH US PRIVATELY WE'RE ABLE TO SHARE TO THE PUBLIC.
6:23:28PM I THINK THAT IS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY AND I FIND ESPECIALLY
6:23:30PM IN THIS PRESENTATION, IT CAPTURES EXACTLY WHAT THE CURRENT
6:23:35PM CIRCUMSTANCES ARE AND WHAT DIRE STRAITS WE ARE IN
6:23:38PM MAINTAINING OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND WHERE WE NEED TO BE.
6:23:41PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ONE SLIDE THAT YOU HAD UP THERE
6:23:43PM SHOWING UNDER THE CURRENT BUDGET WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO
6:23:46PM ACCOMPLISH VERSUS WITH THE INCREASE WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH
6:23:49PM WITH THE INCREASE.
6:23:50PM AND, QUITE FRANKLY, I DON'T SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO
6:23:53PM ANYTHING ELSE.
6:23:55PM I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO BE TOO BRIGHT TO GO INTO THE CITY
6:23:59PM OF TAMPA AND REALIZE THAT WE HAVE GREAT NEEDS IN OUR ROADS.
6:24:03PM I DROVE DOWN A COUPLE OF STREETS TODAY, AND I FELT LIKE I
6:24:05PM WAS IN A THIRD-WORLD COUNTRY AND NOT IN A COSMOPOLITAN CITY
6:24:10PM THAT IS THRIVING LIKE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
6:24:15PM I KNOW MY PREDECESSOR WAS A BIG ADVOCATE OF THIS, BUILDING
6:24:19PM SIDEWALKS AROUND THE SCHOOLS AND MAKING SURE KIDS IN
6:24:21PM NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE A SAFE OPPORTUNITY.
6:24:23PM I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
6:24:24PM ONE, TO REINFORCE WHAT I ALREADY UNDERSTOOD AND ALSO TO
6:24:27PM SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC.
6:24:29PM THANK YOU.
6:24:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:24:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
6:24:33PM THERE ARE ITEMS I THINK HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED THAT YOU WERE
6:24:36PM BEING VERY KIND.
6:24:40PM NOT THIS ADMINISTRATION, NOT THIS GOVERNMENT.
6:24:42PM NOT ALL OF US, BUT AT ONE TIME WE SOLD ONE OF THE ONLY
6:24:46PM GARAGES THAT WAS MAKING A PROFIT.
6:24:48PM SO THAT HURT THE PARKING DEPARTMENT GREATLY.
6:24:50PM THEN ANOTHER ADMINISTRATION WITH ANOTHER COUNCIL GAVE AWAY
6:24:54PM THE PARKING FROM CERTAIN AREAS TO CERTAIN AREAS TO CERTAIN
6:24:57PM OTHER PEOPLE, AM I CORRECT?
6:24:59PM >> YES.
6:24:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO THERE IS YOUR DOWNFALL, PERIOD.
6:25:03PM NOTHING ELSE SAID.
6:25:04PM I CAN'T SAY IT ANY OTHER WAY.
6:25:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:25:12PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
6:25:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
6:25:14PM I WAS GOING TO GO AND SPEAK AFTER THE WHOLE PRESENTATION.
6:25:17PM I DON'T WANT TO GO PIECE MEAL.
6:25:20PM THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
6:25:21PM I'LL SPEAK AFTER -- BY THE WAY, ANYBODY CAN SPEAK AS THEY
6:25:25PM WANT.
6:25:26PM GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
6:25:27PM I'LL VERY LIKELY GO AT THE END TO ADDRESS EVERYTHING AS A
6:25:30PM WHOLE, MY PREFERENCE.
6:25:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOME OF US CAN'T REMEMBER THAT LONG.
6:25:35PM [ LAUGHTER ]
6:25:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MAY PEEK IN.
6:25:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LISTENING TO US ABOUT SIDEWALKS, WHEN
6:25:42PM ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION WAS ON THE TABLE AND IF THAT FUNDING
6:25:45PM WOULD HAVE COME THROUGH, I REMEMBER MEETING WITH YOU
6:25:47PM SPECIFICALLY AND YOU SHOWED ME A LIST OF SIDEWALKS SAYING
6:25:50PM THIS IS WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE FUNDING.
6:25:52PM AND THAT WAS TWO YEARS AGO, THREE YEARS AGO.
6:25:55PM I DON'T REMEMBER.
6:25:55PM IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
6:25:56PM BUT I UNDERSTAND THE CONSTRAINTS BUDGETARY.
6:25:59PM IT DIDN'T GO THROUGH.
6:26:00PM WE DON'T HAVE THAT EXTRA DEDICATED FUNDING AND HERE WE ARE.
6:26:03PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
6:26:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP AND
6:26:11PM APOLOGIES FOR INTERRUPTING YOUR PRESENTATION.
6:26:15PM THE POINT IS I DON'T WANT ANYBODY WHO IS WATCHING COUNCIL
6:26:18PM FOR THE FIRST TIME TO THINK THAT WE DON'T THINK THESE ARE
6:26:21PM PRIORITIES.
6:26:21PM ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN WATCHING FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS KNOWS
6:26:24PM I'VE BEEN SAYING OVER AND OVER AGAIN WE NEED TO FIX
6:26:27PM POTHOLES.
6:26:28PM EVERYWHERE WE GO WE GET COMPLAINTS ABOUT POTHOLES.
6:26:31PM I DON'T WANT TO GET DEEP IN THE WEEDS AND HAVE A LONG
6:26:35PM DISCUSSION, BUT I THINK THE BUDGETS THE LAST EIGHT YEARS,
6:26:38PM PRIOR TO THIS ADMINISTRATION WERE EXPECTING THAT ALL FOR
6:26:42PM TRANSPORTATION WOULD GO THROUGH AND THE MONEY WOULD GO
6:26:44PM THROUGH.
6:26:45PM NOW WE KNOW IT'S NOT AND PROBABLY WON'T FOR TEN YEARS.
6:26:48PM IT'S PRUDENT TO LOOK AT OTHER SOURCES.
6:26:50PM BUT THE FACT IS IN ANTICIPATION OF ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION
6:26:54PM GOING THROUGH, THE ROAD REPAIR BUDGET AND SIDEWALK BUDGET
6:26:57PM DIDN'T GO UP EVEN THOUGH WE WERE ALL ASKING FOR IT WHILE THE
6:27:00PM OVERALL BUDGET MORE THAN DOUBLED.
6:27:02PM SO I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT IT'S NOT BECAUSE CITY
6:27:07PM COUNCIL DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A HIGH PRIORITY AND IT'S NOT
6:27:11PM THAT THE ADMINISTRATION THOUGHT IT WASN'T A HIGH PRIORITY.
6:27:14PM FOR WHATEVER REASON ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T RAISE THOSE.
6:27:16PM AND THEY MAY HAVE HAD GOOD REASONS FOR IT.
6:27:18PM NOW, THE POINT I'D LIKE FOR US TO MAKE IS WE ALL AGREE ON
6:27:22PM WHAT THE ISSUES ARE.
6:27:23PM FOR EXAMPLE, CHIEF TRIPP WHO I CUT OFF IS GOING TO PRESENT
6:27:26PM NEXT.
6:27:27PM AND MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS FOR THREE YEARS
6:27:30PM OR SO ASKED FOR A PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN AND IN
6:27:33PM PARTICULAR FOR A FIRE RESCUE MASTER PLAN.
6:27:37PM WE DON'T EXACTLY HAVE THAT NOW YET, BUT THIS COUNCIL HAS
6:27:42PM SUPPORTED EVERY TIME HE'S ASKED FOR PRIORITIZATION OF FIRE
6:27:48PM RESCUE.
6:27:48PM SO I HOPE THAT IN THE PRESENTATION OF FIRE RESCUE AND
6:27:52PM POLICE, ALMOST A YEAR AGO, I ASKED FOR WHAT THE PBA
6:27:58PM REQUESTED, ADDITIONAL 200 POLICE OFFICERS, AT THE TIME THE
6:28:00PM ADMINISTRATION SAID, NO, WE DON'T NEED NEW POLICE OFFICERS.
6:28:03PM IN THE NEW BUDGET THEY ARE PROPOSING 30.
6:28:06PM THERE'S MOVEMENT FORWARD IN ALL THESE THINGS.
6:28:08PM THE POINT IS THAT COUNCIL HAS BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR WHAT THE
6:28:11PM COMMUNITY HAS BEEN ASKING FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
6:28:14PM THE ADMINISTRATION IS ASKING FOR IT.
6:28:16PM INSTEAD OF THE ADMINISTRATION TRYING TO CONVINCE US OF IT I
6:28:20PM HOPE EVERYONE CAN SAY WE'VE LISTENED.
6:28:22PM NOT ONLY LISTENED TO WHAT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE PHONE CALLS
6:28:24PM ARE SAYING, BUT WE LISTEN TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL IS
6:28:26PM LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC THAT THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES.
6:28:29PM THANK YOU.
6:28:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE FINAL THING BEFORE WE GO TO CHIEF
6:28:32PM TRIPP, I'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE AND I SUPPORTED THE STORMWATER
6:28:38PM ASSESSMENT AND I SUPPORTED PIPES.
6:28:40PM WHAT I WAS TOLD BOTH TIMES, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TEAR UP THE
6:28:43PM ROADS TO REPLACE THE PIPES AND UPGRADE THE STORMWATER, WE'RE
6:28:46PM GOING TO REPAVE THE ROADS AND WE'VE SEEN THAT.
6:28:48PM I DROVE DOWN CENTRAL AVENUE SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH YESTERDAY,
6:28:52PM HENDERSON AND DALE MABRY, YOU KNOW WHERE THE PROJECTS ARE
6:28:55PM AT.
6:28:56PM THAT'S BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN FUNDING THAT I KNOW IT'S GOING
6:28:59PM TO TAKE A WHILE BUT END UP HELPING US CATCH UP ON THE ROAD
6:29:04PM RECONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THEY ARE TAKING IT DOWN TO THE DIRT,
6:29:07PM BELOW THE DIRT.
6:29:08PM SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING, TOO, IS WE HAVE BEEN INVESTING, NOT
6:29:14PM AT THIS LEVEL WHERE WE'RE DEDICATING TO FIXING THE ROADS BUT
6:29:18PM BECAUSE OF THE PROJECTS, IT'S DOUBLE-SIDED.
6:29:22PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:29:23PM CHIEF TRIPP.
6:29:26PM WE'LL GO TO FIRE RESCUE.
6:29:36PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
6:29:37PM CHIEF TRIPP, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE FIRE CHIEF.
6:29:40PM JUST REITERATE ON FIRE RESCUE.
6:29:45PM AS I STATED BEFORE, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE BASICALLY IS AN AGENCY
6:29:52PM THAT HAS MET MANY NATIONAL STANDARDS AND ACCREDITATION OVER
6:29:57PM THE LAST 128 YEARS.
6:29:58PM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE DEFINITELY BENEFIT GREATLY FOR INCREASE.
6:30:02PM THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING WOULD ALLOW TAMPA FIRE RESCUE TO HIRE
6:30:05PM ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL.
6:30:06PM BASICALLY WE WOULD IMPLEMENT FIVE ADDITIONAL ALS TRANSPORT
6:30:09PM THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
6:30:11PM BASED ON RECENT STATS OF 2022, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE PROVIDED
6:30:16PM MEDICAL SERVICE TO APPROXIMATELY 90% OF THE 91,000 CALLS
6:30:20PM THAT WAS RECEIVED.
6:30:21PM THESE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES BE PLACED IN FIVE FIRE STATIONS
6:30:25PM THAT DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE ALS TRANSPORT UNITS.
6:30:30PM THIS WILL HELP DECREASE THE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE ENGINE
6:30:34PM WHICH COSTS OVER $800,000 AND DEFINITELY WOULD BE AVAILABLE
6:30:37PM FOR OTHER SERVICES.
6:30:38PM NEXT SLIDE.
6:30:40PM AS TAMPA FIRE RESCUE --
6:30:43PM >> CHIEF TRIPP, PEOPLE MAY NOT KNOW WHAT ALS MEANS.
6:30:48PM PEOPLE AT HOME AND PEOPLE BACK THERE MAY NOT KNOW WHAT IT
6:30:50PM IS.
6:30:50PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: MY APOLOGIES.
6:30:52PM ALS, ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT TRANSPORT UNITS VERSUS BASIC LIFE
6:30:57PM SUPPORT UNITS.
6:30:59PM THERE ARE MULTIPLE COMPONENTS INVOLVED TO MAINTAIN AND STAY
6:31:02PM IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE NATIONAL STANDARDS, WHICH INCLUDE
6:31:06PM PLACING MEDICAL HUBS IN AREAS WHERE RESPONSE TIME IS
6:31:12PM INCREASED, IMPLEMENT BASE TECHNOLOGY INCLUDING PRE-EXEMPTION
6:31:17PM PLATFORM.
6:31:18PM THAT IS BASICALLY TO ALLOW THE VEHICLES TO MOVE SAFELY
6:31:20PM THROUGH TRAFFIC EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY AS WELL AS WHAT
6:31:23PM MOBILITY HAS.
6:31:24PM THIS WILL INTERACT WITH THE SYSTEM WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE
6:31:29PM TURNED ON.
6:31:30PM BASICALLY THEY CAN TRAVEL THROUGH THE TRAFFIC WITHOUT
6:31:36PM CAUSING ADDITIONAL ACCIDENTS.
6:31:37PM MISSION IS TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING IMMEDIATE
6:31:41PM RESPONSE TO ALL REQUESTS FOR SERVICE.
6:31:43PM IN MARCH OF 2023, AN ADDITIONAL ALS TRANSPORT UNIT WAS ADDED
6:31:46PM TO THE CITY LIMITS.
6:31:48PM THE DATA SHOWS 19% DECREASE IN UNIT HOUR UTILIZATION FOR THE
6:31:53PM NEXT INCOMING UNIT.
6:31:54PM THESE ADDITIONAL FUNDS WILL ASSIST WITH UPGRADING,
6:31:58PM REMODELING, REBUILDING FIRE STATIONS TO ACCOMMODATE THE
6:32:01PM ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AND EQUIPMENT.
6:32:03PM AS I STATED BEFORE, TAMPA FIRE ESTABLISHED IN 1895.
6:32:07PM IT WAS KNOWN AS TAMPA FIRE DEPARTMENT.
6:32:09PM THE STATION WAS BUILT FOR FIRE APPARATUSES ONLY.
6:32:13PM '70s, EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE WAS INTRODUCED TO THE FIRE
6:32:16PM DEPARTMENT AND BECOMING TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
6:32:19PM MANY OF THE STATIONS WERE NOT REDESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE
6:32:22PM ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL AND/OR EQUIPMENT.
6:32:24PM STATISTICS SHOWS THAT THE FIRE STATIONS ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY
6:32:29PM LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA.
6:32:32PM EACH OF THE DISTRICT LISTED AS STATION AGE FROM 5 YEARS TO
6:32:38PM 109 YEARS AND NEED RENOVATIONS FOR CURRENT CODES.
6:32:41PM APPROPRIATE LIVING CONDITIONS FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN AND THIS
6:32:45PM FUNDING WILL ASSIST WITH PROVIDING SAFE HAVEN DURING NATURAL
6:32:51PM DISASTER.
6:32:52PM DISTRICT FOUR, WE HAVE THREE STATIONS THAT ARE 65 YEARS OLD.
6:32:55PM DISTRICT FIVE, WE HAVE TWO STATIONS THAT ARE ACTUALLY 58
6:32:59PM YEARS OLD AND TWO OF THEM THAT ARE 95 AND 109 YEARS OLD.
6:33:03PM STATION 6 WE HAVE A COUPLE OF STATIONS THAT ARE 65 YEARS OLD
6:33:09PM AS WELL AS STATION 9 AND OLD STATION 25.
6:33:13PM AND IN STATION 7, THE OLDEST STATION THERE IS ACTUALLY 35
6:33:18PM YEARS, AND THESE FUNDS WILL HELP.
6:33:20PM AS WE TALK ABOUT A MASTER PLAN AND JUST TO REITERATE WHAT
6:33:24PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAYS, I AGREE A MASTER PLAN IS NEEDED.
6:33:29PM WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE APPROPRIATE
6:33:33PM EQUIPMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT MASTER PLAN CAN PROVIDE THE
6:33:36PM CORRECT DATA AS WELL AS THE INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED IN
6:33:39PM ORDER FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE SERVED THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
6:33:44PM WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF BERCAW.
6:33:54PM >>CHIEF BERCAW: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND RESIDENTS.
6:33:58PM AS WE CAN ALL AGREE, THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS
6:34:01PM FUNCTIONING VERY WELL.
6:34:04PM HOWEVER, THERE ARE AREAS THAT NEED OPTIMIZATION, INCLUDING
6:34:07PM ADDRESSING THE GAPS IN THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS.
6:34:09PM THERE'S ALSO A CONTINUED NEED FOR MODERNIZING OUR VEHICLE
6:34:14PM FLEET.
6:34:14PM MOREOVER, IN OUR EXPANDED COMMUNITY OUTREACH, THE POLICE
6:34:18PM ATHLETIC LEAGUE, ALSO KNOWN AS PAL, WOULD BENEFIT FROM
6:34:21PM ADDITIONAL PROFESSIONAL STAFF.
6:34:22PM IN ADDITION, EVOLVING TECHNOLOGY IS ALSO CRITICAL FOR OUR
6:34:27PM OFFICERS TO OPERATE MORE EFFICIENTLY.
6:34:30PM SO I PREVIOUSLY REFERRED TO THIS AS THE THREE Cs.
6:34:33PM THE COPS, THE CARS, THE COMMUNITY, SLASH, TECHNOLOGY.
6:34:36PM WE'VE SEEN THE FIRST HALF OF THIS YEAR REDUCTION IN VIOLENT
6:34:42PM CRIME AND INCREASED SOLVABILITY RATE IN OUR HOMICIDES.
6:34:46PM OUR OFFICERS ARE SOLVING CRIMES WITH AN UNPRECEDENTED SENSE
6:34:50PM OF URGENCY.
6:34:51PM THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT OUR WORK IS DONE.
6:34:55PM WE'RE STILL OUT THERE FIGHTING POCKETS OF CRIME JUST LIKE WE
6:34:58PM DISCUSSED HERE IN COUNCIL ABOUT THE LIBERTY GAS STATION.
6:35:01PM HOWEVER, WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND WE'RE MAKING A
6:35:06PM DIFFERENCE.
6:35:06PM WE ARE JUST UNDER A THOUSAND OFFICERS IN A CITY THAT IS JUST
6:35:10PM OVER 400,000 CITIZENS.
6:35:13PM CLEARLY, WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE, BUT WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE
6:35:16PM AN ENGAGED COMMUNITY.
6:35:18PM AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS CHART ON THE LEFT, AND AS ALL
6:35:22PM COUNCIL HAS DISCUSSED PRIOR BEFORE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
6:35:25PM MUST BEGIN TO GROW WITH THE POPULATION, OTHERWISE WE WOULD
6:35:28PM FACE FALLING BELOW THE NATIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT STANDARDS.
6:35:32PM THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS 2.4 OFFICERS PER 1,000 CITIZENS.
6:35:37PM WE'RE CURRENTLY AT 984 POSITIONS AND NEXT YEAR OUR
6:35:40PM POPULATION IS ESTIMATED TO INCREASE.
6:35:44PM WITHOUT ADDING THESE OFFICERS, WE COULD FOR THE FIRST TIME
6:35:46PM THAT I'M AWARE OF IN THE LAST 30 YEARS FALL BELOW THAT
6:35:50PM NATIONAL STANDARD.
6:35:50PM IN ADDITION TO THE POPULATION, THERE'S OTHER PLETHORA OF
6:35:55PM OTHER INCREASING DEMANDS ON OUR PERSONNEL.
6:35:57PM WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.
6:35:59PM THE TIME WE SPEND ON CALLS IS INCREASING.
6:36:02PM THE EVOLUTION OF OUR ASSIGNMENTS, INCLUDING OUR REAL-TIME
6:36:05PM CRIME CENTER, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, HOMELESS OUTREACH, THE
6:36:08PM LARGE NUMBER OF SPECIAL EVENTS OUR CITY HAS AND EVEN
6:36:12PM TECHNOLOGY AND TRAINING REQUIRE MORE TIME.
6:36:14PM SO WE'RE PROPOSING ADDING THE 30 ADDITIONAL SWORN OFFICERS,
6:36:18PM BRING OUR STAFF FROM 984 TO 1014, THUS IMPROVING OUR OFFICER
6:36:23PM TO CITIZEN RATIO AND KEEPING US ABOVE THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
6:36:27PM THESE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS WILL BE ASSIGNED TO OUR FRONT
6:36:30PM LINES IN PATROL AND FILL OUR CURRENT GAPS OF OFFICERS
6:36:33PM ASSIGNED TO TRAINING AND THOSE ON LONG-TERM MILITARY LEAVE.
6:36:36PM THIS INCREASE WOULD ADD 10 OFFICERS PER DISTRICT AND WE HAVE
6:36:42PM 3 DISTRICTS, OR IT WOULD ADD FIVE ADDITIONAL OFFICERS PER
6:36:46PM SECTOR. WE HAVE THREE DISTRICTS AND EACH CONTAIN TWO
6:36:50PM SECTORS FOR A TOTAL OF SIX.
6:36:52PM THESE INCLUDE AREAS LIKE SOUTH TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, NORTH
6:36:55PM TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND DOWNTOWN, SLASH,
6:37:01PM YBOR.
6:37:02PM WHILE WE HAVE LOST OFFICERS OVER THIS TIME THAT I'VE BEEN
6:37:05PM HERE, WE HAVE GAINED SOME.
6:37:08PM TWO YEARS AGO WE ADDED TEN OFFICERS ON A GRANT, BUT THE NEED
6:37:12PM IN THE CITY IS GROWING AND WE NEED TO GROW WITH THE CITY.
6:37:15PM OVER THE THREE YEARS, THIS INCREASED STAFFING WOULD INCUR A
6:37:18PM COST OF OVER $9 MILLION.
6:37:21PM THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GRANT, THE CITY WOULD SAVE
6:37:25PM NEARLY 4 MILLION OF THAT AMOUNT.
6:37:26PM AFTER THE THREE YEARS WHEN THE GRANT RUNS OUT THIS INCREASED
6:37:29PM STAFFING WOULD BE AN ONGOING ADDITIONAL INCREASE STARTING AT
6:37:33PM 3.5 MILLION PER YEAR AND THEN, OF COURSE, ADJUSTED WITH
6:37:37PM SALARIES.
6:37:38PM AS THEY INCREASE.
6:37:40PM HIRING IMPROVEMENT IS ESSENTIAL AND I'M PROPOSING WE ADD A
6:37:45PM SECOND SCHOLARSHIP CLASS.
6:37:46PM BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS WE PAY FOR THE RECRUIT TO GO TO THE
6:37:50PM ACADEMY AND PAY THEIR SALARY SO WE CAN RECRUIT FROM WITHIN.
6:37:53PM SO ADDING THAT SECOND CLASS AND PAYING FOR THOSE SALARIES
6:37:57PM AND TUITIONS WOULD COST ROUGHLY ABOUT HALF A MILLION.
6:38:00PM AS YOU CAN SEE BASED ON THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT ON THIS SLIDE
6:38:04PM OUR POLICE FLEET NEEDS ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO BRING UP TO MORE
6:38:07PM ACCEPTABLE ROTATION.
6:38:08PM OUR POLICE CARS ARE AGING AND IN NEED OF REPLACEMENT.
6:38:12PM NEARLY HALF OF OUR FLEET IS SIX YEARS OR OLDER.
6:38:15PM TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, WE'RE REQUESTING AN ADDITIONAL 3.5
6:38:19PM MILLION PLUS DOLLARS TO THE FLEET BUDGET.
6:38:22PM THE IMPACT OF NOT HAVING THIS FUNDING RESULTS IN FEWER CARS
6:38:25PM BEING PURCHASED WHICH MEANS KEEPING OLDER CARS IN OUR FLEET
6:38:28PM THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR COSTS.
6:38:31PM AS PART OF OUR ENHANCED COMMUNITY OUTREACH, I'M REQUESTING
6:38:36PM ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR OUR PAL PROGRAM AND FOR TECHNOLOGY.
6:38:40PM WE HAVE A MULTITUDE OF PROGRAMS FOCUSING ON PREVENTING
6:38:43PM CRIME, WE BELIEVE IN INVESTING AND REINVIGORATING OUR PAL
6:38:48PM PROGRAM WILL PROVIDE IMPROVED OUTCOMES.
6:38:51PM WE ESTIMATE THAT THERE ARE 20 TO 25 HOURS PER WEEK THAT
6:38:56PM CHILDREN GO OUT OF SCHOOL THAT ARE UNSUPERVISED.
6:38:59PM ENGAGING WITH EVEN MORE OF OUR YOUTH WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
6:39:02PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE NEXT GENERATION TO BECOME FUTURE
6:39:05PM LEADERS IN THIS CITY.
6:39:06PM INVESTING ROUGHLY ABOUT 700,000 IN OUR PAL PROGRAM WILL
6:39:11PM PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE UP TO FOUR FULL-TIME
6:39:14PM POSITIONS, SIX PART-TIME, AND UP TO 14 SEASONAL.
6:39:19PM AND THESE ARE NON-SWORN PROFESSIONAL STAFF POSITIONS.
6:39:22PM EVIDENCE-BASED SUPPORTING TECHNOLOGY, CRITICAL TO OUR
6:39:26PM MISSION AND I'M REQUESTING ROUGHLY ABOUT 1.2 MILLION
6:39:29PM ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO INCREASE OUR TRANSPARENCY, EFFICIENCY,
6:39:33PM AND EFFECTIVENESS.
6:39:34PM SEVERAL OF THE TOP PROJECTS UNDER THIS WOULD BE TO PROVIDE
6:39:37PM FOR SMART PHONES FOR OUR OFFICERS, WHICH WOULD NOT ONLY
6:39:40PM PROVIDE INCREASED OPPORTUNITIES TO COLLABORATE WITH THE
6:39:43PM COMMUNITY BUT ALSO PUTTING TECHNOLOGY AT THE FINGERTIPS OF
6:39:47PM OUR OFFICERS.
6:39:48PM OTHER TOP PROJECTS INCLUDE INCREASED DIGITAL EVIDENCE
6:39:53PM STORAGE AND ADVANCED MAPPING SYSTEM.
6:39:55PM TO PUT THIS IN PERSPECTIVE, THE DIGITAL EVIDENCE STORAGE
6:39:59PM SOLUTION IS NEARLY HALF OF THAT 1.2 MILLION.
6:40:01PM THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM.
6:40:03PM THE SMART PHONE EXPANSION IS NOT EVEN A THIRD.
6:40:06PM IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 300,000.
6:40:08PM SO IT DOESN'T TAKE A POLICE CHIEF OR A DOCTORATE IN CRIMINAL
6:40:13PM JUSTICE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN ADDITION TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY
6:40:16PM REQUEST, THE OTHER CITY BUDGET REQUEST HAVE BOTH AN INDIRECT
6:40:21PM AND A DIRECT IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY.
6:40:25PM IF YOU BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE SLIDE
6:40:28PM HERE, THAT ILLUSTRATION HIGHLIGHTS HOW INCREASED
6:40:31PM AFTER-SCHOOL PROGRAMS DECREASE CRIME AND INCREASE SAFETY.
6:40:35PM EVEN WITH OUR PAL ENHANCEMENT, THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
6:40:39PM CAN'T DO THIS ALONE.
6:40:40PM WE RELY HEAVILY ON THE PARKS AND RECREATION AND THEIR FUTURE
6:40:44PM PROPOSALS TO INCREASE THEIR STAFFING FOR THE MULTITUDE OF
6:40:49PM AFTER-SCHOOL, EVENING, AND WEEKEND PROGRAMS.
6:40:51PM IT'S TOGETHER DOING ALL OF THIS THAT WE CAN REDUCE CRIME AND
6:40:56PM IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN TAMPA.
6:40:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:40:59PM SORRY.
6:41:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, SHE DID HAVE HER HAND FIRST.
6:41:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH, DR. CHIEF BERCAW.
6:41:08PM I APPRECIATE IT.
6:41:09PM I'M REALLY GLAD THAT YOU ARE TIEING IN THE PAL PROGRAM.
6:41:19PM YOU SAID THAT ACTUALLY AT ALLEN TEMPLE WHEN I WAS ON THE
6:41:23PM CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
6:41:24PM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU STILL BEING COMMITTED TO THAT.
6:41:27PM BUT YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS MENTAL HEALTH OF OUR OFFICERS.
6:41:30PM THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
6:41:32PM I HOPE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET AND FINE TUNE TO
6:41:38PM MAKE SURE THAT THAT COST OR EXPENDITURE IS INCLUDED BECAUSE
6:41:43PM -- AND THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT
6:41:46PM AS WELL AS FIRE RESCUE AS WELL.
6:41:49PM THE FACT THAT YOU STOOD UP HERE AND SAID IT, I THINK I
6:41:52PM REALLY WANT TO BE MORE SO ON PUBLIC RECORD AND SAYING IN
6:41:55PM YOUR PRESENTATION AS WELL AS YOURS CHIEF TRIPP, PAL, PARKS
6:41:58PM AND REC, HOW IT ALL TIES IN TOGETHER.
6:42:00PM BECAUSE I'M READING THE LETTERS FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND THEY
6:42:03PM ARE WILLING TO SUPPORT JUST THE POLICE AND JUST FIRE.
6:42:06PM AND THAT IS JUST -- YOU KNOW IT MAKES ME SAD BECAUSE OUR
6:42:11PM COMMUNITY, OUR FUTURE, OUR YOUTH IS INVOLVED IN THAT
6:42:15PM DECISION, SO PAL AND PARKS AND REC IS A PART OF WHAT
6:42:20PM DECREASES CRIME AND INCREASES STUDENT SAFETY.
6:42:24PM AND I KNOW THAT FIRSTHAND, OF COURSE, AS AFTER-SCHOOL KID
6:42:27PM MYSELF GOING TO PARKS AND REC.
6:42:28PM SO I'M GLAD THAT IS A PART OF THIS BUDGET.
6:42:31PM I THINK WHAT REALLY MORE SO THE BIGGER QUESTION THAT I HAVE
6:42:36PM FOR YOU AS WELL AS CHIEF TRIPP, YOU CAN COME BACK AND ANSWER
6:42:39PM THIS, IS WHEN YOU ALL HAVE A CLASS, JUST LIKE WE JUST PULLED
6:42:42PM IN A CLASS, WE JUST PINNED PEOPLE LAST WEEK, RIGHT?
6:42:46PM THE ADDITIONAL 30 OFFICERS -- SO WE'RE HIRING 30 OFFICERS
6:42:50PM WITH THIS MILLAGE INCREASE.
6:42:51PM THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL 30, BUT HOW MANY DO WE HIRE ANYWAY IF
6:42:55PM WE DIDN'T HAVE MILLAGE, HOW MANY DO WE MAKE AN EFFORT TO
6:42:59PM HIRE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WITHOUT THIS PARTICULAR MILLAGE AND
6:43:02PM THIS IS JUST IN ADDITION TO?
6:43:06PM >>CHIEF BERCAW: THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND.
6:43:08PM WE HAVE PLANNED RETIREMENTS AND UNPLANNED RETIREMENTS THAT
6:43:12PM WE CALCULATE FOR AND THEN THE VACANCIES THAT WE ALREADY
6:43:15PM CURRENTLY HAVE, AND THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT OUR GOAL, OR
6:43:19PM SHOOT FOR HIRING EVERY YEAR WHICH AVERAGES ANYWHERE FROM 80
6:43:21PM TO 100 A YEAR.
6:43:23PM SO THIS WOULD BE ABOVE THAT.
6:43:24PM SO WE'RE HIRING ROUGHLY ABOUT A HUNDRED A YEAR.
6:43:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AS WE CONTINUE TO FINE TUNE, I WANT TO
6:43:31PM MAKE SURE I SAY THIS PUBLICLY, THE MENTAL HEALTH PIECE AS
6:43:33PM WELL AS EVEN DIVERSITY EFFORTS, WOMEN AND MINORITIES IN BOTH
6:43:38PM FIRE RESCUE AND IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT THERE IS A
6:43:41PM LEVEL OF INCREASED EFFORT ON THAT BEHALF AS A PART OF OUR
6:43:45PM BUDGET PROCESS.
6:43:46PM >>CHIEF BERCAW: I AGREE.
6:43:47PM THAT'S WHY SPECIFICALLY I WANT THAT SECOND SCHOLARSHIP
6:43:50PM CLASS.
6:43:50PM IT PROVIDES MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR HOMEGROWN TO
6:43:53PM APPLY TO THE ACADEMY.
6:43:56PM I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED MENTAL HEALTH.
6:43:57PM THESE REQUESTS ARE ONLY ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE
6:44:00PM ALREADY BUDGETED FOR AND WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE SEVERAL
6:44:02PM GRANTS WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH AND I'VE EXPANDED A PEER
6:44:06PM SUPPORT TEAM THAT WE ACTUALLY JUST PUSHED OUT INTERNALLY
6:44:09PM PROBABLY ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO SO WE DO HAVE THAT.
6:44:11PM WE ACTUALLY GOT A GRANT FOR MENTAL HEALTH FOR OUR OFFICERS.
6:44:16PM ALL THAT IS IN THE WORKS AND THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHICH
6:44:20PM WASN'T BUDGETED.
6:44:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:44:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU'RE AGREEING TO THAT AS WELL?
6:44:27PM I WANT TO GET HER FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF RECRUITMENT.
6:44:30PM >> RECRUITMENT, OF COURSE, WE TRY TO STAY ABOVE THE
6:44:33PM STANDARDS, THE 1.5 TO 1.8 FOR THE RESIDENTS.
6:44:37PM BUT WE ALSO RECRUIT IN ADVANCE WHENEVER THERE IS RETIREMENT.
6:44:43PM CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.
6:44:44PM HE JUST REMINDED ME BUDGET GAVE ME 57 POSITIONS I BELIEVE
6:44:49PM LAST FISCAL YEAR OR YEAR BEFORE THAT ONE.
6:44:53PM BASICALLY WHEN I CAME IN, I HAD A GAP TO CLOSE.
6:44:55PM THAT'S WHY I HIRED FOUR CLASSES AND 21 AND THEN ANOTHER ONE
6:44:59PM IN 22.
6:44:59PM I MEAN FOUR DIFFERENT CLASSES.
6:45:01PM I THINK OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS TAMPA FIRE HAS HIRED
6:45:04PM PROBABLY ABOUT 130 PERSONNEL TO CLOSE THAT GAP UP.
6:45:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
6:45:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
6:45:16PM I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
6:45:17PM WHEN LOOKING AT THE BUDGET LAST YEAR, YOU INCLUDED FOUR
6:45:24PM BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CLINICIANS.
6:45:26PM I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
6:45:27PM HAVING SEEN AND READ THAT AMAZING ARTICLE IN THE TIMES ABOUT
6:45:30PM ST. PETE'S CALL PROGRAM AND FROM MY CONVERSATIONS WITH
6:45:39PM OFFICERS ON RIDE-ALONGS AND IN THE COMMUNITY, BOTH TEND TO
6:45:42PM FOCUS ON WANTING MORE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND OFFICERS ARE
6:45:46PM SAYING WE WOULD PREFER BEHAVIORAL HEALTH FOLKS HANDLE
6:45:51PM BEHAVIOR CALLS INSTEAD OF US BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT OUR JOB
6:45:56PM AND IT'S BEING GIVEN TO US BUT IT CAN BE BETTER HELPED AND
6:46:01PM FACILITATED BY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CLINICIANS WHICH ARE, QUITE
6:46:04PM FRANKLY, A LOT CHEAPER THAN POLICE OFFICERS AS WELL.
6:46:05PM WHAT ARE OUR GOALS TO TRY TO AMP UP THAT PROGRAM A LITTLE
6:46:11PM BIT AND TO TRY TO TAKE SOME OF THE PRESSURE FROM BEHAVIORAL
6:46:16PM HEALTH AND HOMELESS CALLS ON TO OUR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
6:46:20PM CLINICIANS?
6:46:22PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
6:46:23PM IT IS A GREAT POINT.
6:46:24PM WE DISCUSSED BEFORE STAFFING THOSE POSITIONS WAS A
6:46:26PM CHALLENGE.
6:46:27PM WE WERE CONTRACTING AND HAVING DIFFICULTY FILLING THE
6:46:30PM POSITIONS.
6:46:31PM WE TOOK THAT OVER AND MADE THEM CITY EMPLOYEES WITH A BETTER
6:46:34PM COMPETITIVE SALARY.
6:46:35PM WE WERE FINALLY ABLE TO FILL THE POSITIONS.
6:46:37PM WE'RE OPTIMIZING THAT AND WE'RE ALL ABOUT GROWING THAT.
6:46:40PM IT WON'T BE THIS YEAR BUT IT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.
6:46:42PM COMPARING THE TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS I'VE ENGAGED WITH CHIEF
6:46:45PM HOLLOWAY AND THE HILLSBOROUGH REGION, THE PINELLAS REGION,
6:46:49PM PINELLAS AND HILLSBOROUGH DO IT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
6:46:52PM WE EVALUATED THAT PROGRAM WITH OUR MENTAL HEALTH
6:46:54PM PROFESSIONALS HERE, AND THEY THOUGHT THAT PILOT PROGRAM AND
6:46:57PM THE PROGRAM WE'RE USING NOW IS BEST FOR THE MODEL IN THE
6:47:01PM CITY BUT WE'RE ALL ABOUT EXPANDING AND GROWING THAT PROGRAM
6:47:03PM IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE.
6:47:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
6:47:06PM BECAUSE THE THING I WAS MOST AMAZED BY IN 4,000 CALLS, THEY
6:47:11PM NEVER NEEDED BACKUP.
6:47:12PM SO FINDING OUT LIKE WHAT CALLS ARE BEST FOR THAT AND AGAIN
6:47:18PM HELPING THE COMMUNITY I THINK IS A REAL GOOD PLUS THERE.
6:47:22PM I AM ALSO THRILLED TO SEE 700,000 TOWARDS PAL.
6:47:26PM I WOULD ACTUALLY LOVE TO SEE MORE PUT TOWARD PAL.
6:47:29PM I THINK THAT IS PROBABLY ONE OF OUR NEEDS INSTEAD OF OUR
6:47:33PM WANTS IN TERMS OF KEEPING OUR KIDS ENGAGED.
6:47:36PM YOU AND I ALREADY TALKED -- I BROUGHT UP, CAN'T REMEMBER
6:47:39PM WHAT MEETING IT WAS AT THIS POINT.
6:47:41PM MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL AND BRINGING THAT BACK ON NIGHTS AND
6:47:45PM WEEKENDS.
6:47:45PM AND THAT, OF COURSE, NEEDS STAFFING, AND WE NEED FOLKS TO DO
6:47:48PM THAT.
6:47:49PM I THINK THAT DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, IT IS THE CHEAPEST AND BEST
6:47:54PM THING WE CAN DO TO GIVE OUR KIDS SOMETHING TO DO.
6:47:58PM SO I AM REALLY HAPPY YOU ARE FOCUSED ON THIS, BUT I WOULD
6:48:03PM ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE CAN MOVE
6:48:06PM AROUND TO EVEN GET A MILLION DOLLARS INTO THIS PROGRAM, IF
6:48:09PM NOT THIS YEAR, FORWARD FOR NEXT YEAR, TO JUST MAKE THIS A
6:48:14PM REAL GREAT PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
6:48:23PM PARKS DEPARTMENT.
6:48:23PM I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY WONDERFUL --
6:48:28PM >>CHIEF BERCAW: I AGREE.
6:48:28PM WE NEED THE YEAR TO GET THINGS SITUATED.
6:48:33PM THIS TIME NEXT YEAR WE MIGHT BE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY FOR
6:48:37PM PAL.
6:48:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
6:48:39PM I KNOW YOU ARE A NUMBERS PERSON, SO THAT WE'LL GET SOME GOOD
6:48:42PM DATA ON THAT, AND I GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
6:48:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND THEN MIRANDA.
6:48:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TOOK A LOT OF WHAT I
6:48:51PM WAS GOING TO SAY ABOUT PAL AS OUR FIRST MEETING, ONE OF THE
6:48:54PM FIRST THINGS I SAID TO YOU IS MY SUPPORT OF PAL.
6:48:57PM DO YOU ANTICIPATE WITH THE REQUESTS YOU'VE GOT IN HOW MANY
6:49:00PM KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SERVICE IN THE
6:49:03PM FIRST YEAR?
6:49:03PM >>CHIEF BERCAW: I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN FRONT OF ME.
6:49:06PM PAL IS ONE LOCATION IN THE CENTER OF THE CITY AND THAT'S WHY
6:49:09PM I WAS ALLUDING TO PARKS HELPING US OUT BECAUSE THERE ARE SO
6:49:12PM MANY OTHER AREAS WE CAN BENEFIT ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY.
6:49:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M GLAD YOU MADE THAT NEXUS BETWEEN THE
6:49:19PM TWO BECAUSE NOT ONLY WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THE FOLKS, WE HAVE
6:49:22PM TO SUPPORT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, ENSURING THAT THE PARKS ARE
6:49:24PM THERE, SO IF YOU WANT TO PLAY BASKETBALL, THAT THERE IS A
6:49:27PM HOOP THERE AND THE COURTS ARE IN DECENT SHAPE.
6:49:29PM I APPRECIATE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT JUST ONE
6:49:31PM DEPARTMENT.
6:49:31PM NOT JUST YOU ALL.
6:49:32PM IT IS A WHOLE BUNCH OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE CITY THAT HAS
6:49:35PM TO COME TOGETHER TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.
6:49:36PM I THINK IT'S A REAL GOOD THING.
6:49:38PM ALSO, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE BECAUSE IN YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT
6:49:40PM THE NEED FOR UPDATING THESE POLICE VEHICLES, IT'S A BIG
6:49:44PM FIGURE, JUST SO THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT, ONE, WE FELL
6:49:48PM BEHIND BECAUSE OF THE GREAT RECESSION AND VEHICLE
6:49:49PM REPLACEMENT NOT JUST IN THE POLICE BUT ACROSS OUR FLEET
6:49:52PM CITYWIDE AND ALSO WITH COVID.
6:49:54PM WE KEPT GETTING FURTHER AND FURTHER BEHIND.
6:49:56PM IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT POLICE OFFICERS WANTING BRAND NEW
6:50:00PM VEHICLES, THIS IS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, IT'S A NEED,
6:50:03PM NOT A WANT, THAT THESE ARE WELL -- MANY OF THE VEHICLES ARE
6:50:06PM WELL BEYOND THE USEFUL LIFE EXPECTANCY AND DRIVEN MUCH
6:50:10PM HARDER BY POLICE OFFICERS THAN YOU WOULD IF YOU WERE GOING
6:50:13PM TO PUBLIX.
6:50:14PM I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT THING TO EMPHASIZE, THIS IS AN
6:50:17PM UNMET NEED OF THE CITY THAT WE HAVE TO IMPROVE.
6:50:20PM I APPRECIATE YOU AND CHIEF TRIPP'S PRESENTATION.
6:50:23PM I THINK THEY ARE BOTH GOOD.
6:50:24PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
6:50:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:50:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
6:50:28PM CHIEF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
6:50:30PM A COUPLE OF THINGS CAUGHT ME SQUARE IN THE MIDDLE WHAT YOU
6:50:33PM WERE TALKING ABOUT.
6:50:34PM WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE CRIMES, YOU DON'T WAIT UNTIL
6:50:37PM THEY ARE 20 YEARS OLD TO SAY YOU ARE DOING THE ONE THING.
6:50:41PM ALL KIDS, NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE, WHAT PARK YOU'RE AT, YOU
6:50:44PM GET YOUNG KIDS THAT ARE 8 TO 9 YEARS OLD, 10 YEARS OLD.
6:50:48PM IF THEY ARE NOT WITH YOU, THEY ARE WITH SOME KIDS 18 AND 19
6:50:52PM WHO ALREADY PAST THAT AGE THAT YOU CAN'T TELL THEM WHAT TO
6:50:56PM DO BECAUSE THEY KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO.
6:50:58PM THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM STARTS.
6:50:59PM THEY SEE KIDS MAKING MONEY OR WHATEVER AND THEY SAY YOU CAN
6:51:03PM DO THIS, TOO.
6:51:04PM KEEPING THE KIDS IN PAL AND DOING DIFFERENT THINGS IS A
6:51:08PM WONDERFUL THING.
6:51:08PM MY OWN BACKGROUND AND CHILDHOOD, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE CUSCADEN
6:51:12PM PARK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE.
6:51:14PM WE LIVED MORE THERE THAN WE DID OUR OWN HOUSE.
6:51:17PM AS FAR AS THE AD VALOREM TAX REGARDING DIFFERENT THINGS, THE
6:51:23PM AD VALOREM TAX HISTORICALLY DOES NOT PAY FOR ALL THE FUNDING
6:51:26PM OF THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT.
6:51:27PM THAT'S BEEN HISTORICALLY.
6:51:30PM BEEN AS HIGH AS $50 MILLION IN THE PAST YEAR.
6:51:33PM LAST YEAR WAS MINUS 25 MILLION.
6:51:35PM HISTORICALLY, THAT'S WHAT IT DOES.
6:51:37PM IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT TO SOME DEGREE, THE FIRE AND POLICE
6:51:42PM DEPARTMENT DOESN'T TAKE ENOUGH MONEY COLLECTED BY THE AD
6:51:44PM VALOREM TAX.
6:51:45PM YOU CAN CHECK ME ANYTIME YOU WANT REGARDING IT.
6:51:49PM HOWEVER, THIS WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT IT CHANGED TO A PLUS,
6:51:53PM WHERE IT ARE HAD MET THE THRESHOLD OF THE COST OF THE FIRE
6:51:57PM AND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
6:51:58PM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
6:52:00PM THANK YOU.
6:52:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:52:01PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
6:52:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANTED TO SAY, DR. CHIEF, YOU SAID TO
6:52:07PM SAY CHIEF, BUT DR. CHIEF, NO, THANK YOU, I'M GETTING A LOT
6:52:12PM OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND KUDOS IN THE COMMUNITY FOR YOUR
6:52:16PM LEADERSHIP.
6:52:16PM I APPRECIATE THE STABILITY AND INSIGHTS AND EXPERTISE YOU
6:52:21PM BRING IN ANALYTICAL ABILITY.
6:52:24PM WE LISTEN NOT ONLY TO THE LEADERSHIP OF PEOPLE IN YOUR
6:52:29PM POSITION BUT ALSO TO THE HARD WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF FIRE
6:52:32PM RESCUE AND POLICE AND THEY STOP US ON THE STREETS
6:52:35PM EVERYWHERE.
6:52:36PM THE FEEDBACK I'VE HAD IS A LOT MORE POSITIVE.
6:52:38PM THERE IS A LOT MORE CONFIDENCE.
6:52:40PM THERE ARE ALWAYS THINGS THAT FOLKS WANT MORE BUT YOU SEEM TO
6:52:42PM HAVE CAPTURED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT FOLKS REALLY WANTED.
6:52:45PM THE THING I HEAR MOST FROM THE POLICE OFFICERS IS THEY WANT
6:52:48PM MORE OFFICERS TO HELP THEM BECAUSE THEY FEEL STRESSED OUT
6:52:52PM THAT THERE'S NOT ENOUGH.
6:52:53PM SO THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THAT.
6:52:55PM THANK YOU TO CHIEF TRIPP FOR HER LEADERSHIP.
6:52:57PM YOU BOTH STEPPED INTO TOUGH SITUATIONS.
6:53:01PM THERE IS A LOT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND DEFERRED COST.
6:53:03PM I APPRECIATE YOU ALL STEPPING UP TO HELP US SET PRIORITIES.
6:53:08PM >>CHIEF BERCAW: THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY WE'VE HAD
6:53:11PM TO DO THAT, COMING BACK FROM THE DEFICIT, THE ACADEMY SHUT
6:53:15PM DOWN, WE'RE JUST NOW GETTING THE FULL STAFF AND JUST NOW
6:53:19PM FEELING THE IMPACT.
6:53:20PM THIS WILL BE THE ABILITY FOR US TO EVEN MOVE FORWARD ON
6:53:23PM THIS, WHERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY BEFORE BECAUSE WE
6:53:25PM HAVE THE VACANCIES TO FILL.
6:53:26PM YOU LOOK AT POLICE DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE NATION THAT HAVE
6:53:29PM TWO, THREE HUNDRED VACANCIES, FORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT IN THAT
6:53:32PM SITUATION AND WE'RE IN THAT SITUATION WHERE WE CAN GROW.
6:53:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:53:36PM YES, MA'AM.
6:53:38PM PARKS AND REC.
6:53:45PM >>OCEA WYNN: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
6:53:46PM OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
6:53:48PM AFFAIRS.
6:53:49PM THE ONE MILLAGE WILL BE USED TO ADDRESS THE FIRST FIVE YEARS
6:53:53PM OF MAINTENANCE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN THE
6:53:57PM MASTER PLAN.
6:53:58PM THESE RECOMMENDATIONS IDENTIFIED THE IMMEDIATE FACILITY
6:54:05PM NEEDS AND THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES OF THE COMMUNITY.
6:54:08PM THE ESTIMATES FOR THE MAINTENANCE COST FOR BUILDINGS,
6:54:15PM FACILITIES, AND SWIMMING POOLS ARE ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT
6:54:21PM $135 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
6:54:23PM THE AQUATICS REPAIR NEEDS RANGE FROM FAIR, MEANING MINOR
6:54:29PM REPAIRS ARE NEEDED, TO POOR, NOT EFFICIENT, OR WILL NEED A
6:54:36PM MAJOR REPAIR OR UPGRADE SOON TO CRITICAL.
6:54:41PM NEEDS REPLACEMENT IMMEDIATELY OR AT RISK OF FAILURE.
6:54:46PM AS I COMMUNICATED PREVIOUSLY, ALL OF OUR 17 AQUATIC ASSETS
6:54:51PM FALL IN ONE OR MORE OF THESE CATEGORIES.
6:54:53PM 42 ADDITIONAL STAFFERS ARE NEEDED.
6:54:59PM 26 OF THOSE ARE NEEDED FOR PARK OPERATIONS.
6:55:04PM AN ADDITIONAL 16 ARE NEEDED FOR FORESTRY.
6:55:07PM THIS IS TO REDUCE THE TREE BACK LOG, IMPROVE THE RESPONSE
6:55:11PM TIME FOR TREE EMERGENCIES AND TO RESTORE AND MAINTAIN THE
6:55:16PM TREE CANOPY.
6:55:17PM THIS WOULD HELP US WITH THE GOAL OF PLANTING 30,000 TREES BY
6:55:22PM THE YEAR 2030.
6:55:24PM THE IMPROVED FACILITIES AND ADDITIONAL STAFFERS WILL ALLOW
6:55:30PM US TO EXPAND SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE VARIOUS LOCATIONS
6:55:34PM WITHIN THE PARK SYSTEM.
6:55:35PM DIVERSIFYING PROGRAMMING AND DECREASING THE WAIT LIST TIMES
6:55:41PM TO PARTICIPATE IN PARK PROGRAMS SUCH AS GYM AND DANCE.
6:55:46PM CHIEF BERCAW MENTIONED EXPANDING PAL, SO THIS WILL ALLOW US
6:55:52PM TO LOOK AT LOCATIONS TO EXPAND PAL WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
6:55:55PM THE CITY'S ANNUAL ELECTRIC COST IS ON AVERAGE $25 MILLION A
6:56:05PM YEAR.
6:56:05PM REROOFING, RENOVATING RECREATION CENTERS, WE LOOK FOR
6:56:10PM OPPORTUNITIES TO INSTALL SOLAR.
6:56:12PM FOR AN EXAMPLE, THE LORETTA INGRAHAM ROOFING PROJECT, WHERE
6:56:21PM WE INSTALLED SOLAR AFTER WE ROOFED THE FACILITY, WAS ALMOST
6:56:25PM A $400,000 UP-FRONT EXPENSE.
6:56:28PM THE EXPECTED RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS 8 YEARS, OFFSETTING A
6:56:33PM 60% ENERGY USE.
6:56:35PM ALL OF THE SOLAR PROJECTS HAVE UP-FRONT CAPITAL COSTS AND A
6:56:42PM HUGE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
6:56:44PM WE LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO LEVERAGE THE FUNDING TO OFFSET
6:56:48PM THESE UP-FRONT COSTS.
6:56:50PM THE MASTER PLAN IDENTIFIED RECOMMENDATIONS, RENOVATIONS,
6:56:56PM REINVESTMENTS INTO EXISTING PARKS AND THE FACILITIES IN THE
6:57:00PM EXISTING PARKS.
6:57:01PM FOR AN EXAMPLE, DISTRICT 4 IS A DEFICIT OF PARK VARIATION
6:57:11PM BUT AMPLY SERVED BY CONS EVACUATION AND RESOURCE --
6:57:15PM CONSERVATION AND RESOURCE PARKS THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANT
6:57:17PM ACREAGE.
6:57:18PM DISTRICT 5, SUFFICIENT ACCESS TO MOST FACILITIES ARE OFFERED
6:57:22PM AT THE PARK SITES, HOWEVER THE QUALITY OF THE PARKS NEEDS TO
6:57:27PM BE IMPROVED.
6:57:28PM DISTRICT 6, PARK IMPROVEMENTS, SHORELINE AND SWIMMING POOL
6:57:34PM RESTORATIONS ARE WHAT'S NEEDED WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.
6:57:37PM DISTRICT 7, NEIGHBORHOODS DO NOT HAVE WALKABLE ACCESS TO
6:57:42PM NEARBY PARKS OR AMENITIES.
6:57:45PM AND EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE CDCs AND COUNTY-OWNED PARKS,
6:57:50PM THERE ARE GAPS IN THE NORTHERNMOST AREAS.
6:57:52PM SO WE HAVE IDENTIFIED SPECIFICALLY SOME OF THE PARKS INITIAL
6:58:01PM PROJECTS THAT THE MILLAGE WILL ADDRESS.
6:58:03PM HYDE PARK, WE WOULD DEMO THE EXISTING ART BUILDING.
6:58:06PM WE WOULD HAVE A SAFE CONNECTIVITY OF WALKING SPACE AROUND
6:58:10PM THE BUILDING OR AROUND THE PARK, AND WE WILL USE THE
6:58:14PM COMMUNITY TO GARNER INPUT TO REDEVELOP THE SITE.
6:58:20PM DUNDEE PARK IS A THREE-PHASE APPROACH.
6:58:25PM PHASE ONE, PLAYGROUND, HEALING GARDEN AND SIDEWALKS.
6:58:30PM PHASE TWO, PICNIC SHELTERS, A KAYAK LAUNCH, BOARDWALK
6:58:37PM FISHING AREA AND FITNESS EQUIPMENT.
6:58:39PM PHASE THREE, DOCK AND ADDITIONAL KAYAK LAUNCH.
6:58:45PM PORT TAMPA PARK, PLAYGROUND, TENNIS COURTS, SOFTBALL
6:58:50PM UPGRADES, AND COMMUNITY INPUT FOR THE ADDITIONAL UPGRADES.
6:58:56PM THE PICNIC ISLAND TO SOUTHWEST PORT TAMPA, A TRAIL OVER THE
6:59:03PM WATER CONNECTION.
6:59:06PM IN DISTRICT FIVE, AL BARNES, THE AL BARNES NEED A RESTROOM
6:59:11PM BUILDING.
6:59:12PM FITNESS EQUIPMENT, RACQUETBALL, PICKLEBALL, TENNIS BALL
6:59:16PM COURT IMPROVEMENTS.
6:59:17PM THE CLARENCE FORT PARK, LIKE TO EXPANDS THE ENTRY PLAZA TO
6:59:24PM THAT PARK AND PLANT SHADES TREE PLANTINGS.
6:59:27PM HIGHLAND PINES, BASKETBALL, TENNIS, COURT UPGRADES, TRAIL
6:59:34PM WORK AND SITE AMENITIES.
6:59:36PM BLACK WATER HAMMOCK, THE TRAIL SITE AMENITIES.
6:59:42PM AND THESE AMENITIES MUST BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FLORIDA
6:59:46PM DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION MANAGEMENT PLAN.
6:59:50PM DISTRICT 6, RIVER TOWER, AGAIN, COMPLIANCE WITH THE FLORIDA
6:59:58PM DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION MANAGEMENT PLAN.
7:00:02PM HOWEVER, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT IMPROVING THE TRAIL,
7:00:07PM INSTALLING FLORIDA GARDENS, HAVING A SHORELINE RESTORATION
7:00:12PM AND PARKING IMPROVEMENTS.
7:00:14PM SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL AT WAYNE PAPY SITE, REBUILDING OF THE
7:00:20PM POOL AND RESTORING THE SITE.
7:00:23PM CYPRESS PARK PARK, PICNIC SHELTERS, TRAIL ADDITIONS,
7:00:30PM SHORELINE IMPROVEMENTS.
7:00:33PM HENRY AND OLA, EVEN THOUGH CURRENTLY WE ARE RENOVATING THE
7:00:39PM PARK WITH A DOG PARK AND BENCHES AS WELL AS THE WATER
7:00:43PM FOUNTAIN, WE WOULD LIKE TO GARNER THE COMMUNITY TO GET INPUT
7:00:46PM ON THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE WITH ADDITIONAL
7:00:53PM FUNDING.
7:00:54PM DISTRICT 7, K-BAR RANCH, TREE PLANTINGS, MULTIPURPOSE
7:01:00PM FIELDS, A PLAY AREA, PARKING, NEIGHBORHOOD CONNECTIONS.
7:01:06PM TAMPA PALMS FIVE ACRE PARK, TRAILS AND SITE AMENITIES.
7:01:11PM NEW TAMPA NATURE PARK, A NATURE CENTER, RESTROOM, EXPAND THE
7:01:18PM TRAIL SYSTEM AND, AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT MUST BE IN
7:01:22PM COMPLIANCE WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL
7:01:23PM PROTECTION.
7:01:25PM WITHIN ALL DISTRICTS, THE FUNDING WILL ALLOW US TO REIMAGINE
7:01:32PM HOW TO PROVIDE PARKS ELEMENTS WITHIN OUR STORMWATER PONDS.
7:01:37PM WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH SUSTAINABILITY AND RESILIENCY
7:01:45PM WITH OFFICER WHIT REMER TO EXPLORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOLAR
7:01:49PM INSTALLATION, TO IMPROVE OUR TREE CANOPY, AS WELL AS WITH
7:01:55PM RAQUEL PANCHO FOR ADA IMPROVEMENTS AND WITH OUR MOBILITY
7:02:00PM DEPARTMENT TO INCREASE THE SAFE ACCESS AND CONNECTIVITY TO
7:02:05PM OUR PARK SPACES.
7:02:06PM WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO -- YES, MA'AM.
7:02:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. WYNN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
7:02:18PM YOUR FOCUS TODAY WAS PARKS AND RECREATION, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE
7:02:22PM YOU HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS.
7:02:24PM IS THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY UNDER YOUR DEPARTMENT AS
7:02:26PM WELL?
7:02:27PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM, IT IS.
7:02:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND THERE WAS NO PRESENTATION MATTER ON
7:02:30PM THAT, SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT AS
7:02:33PM YOU ALL GO BACK TO THE TABLE TO ADDRESS THESE THINGS.
7:02:37PM THE EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY HAS ATTRACTED MY ATTENTION
7:02:42PM FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE JUST
7:02:46PM IN HAVING A CONVERSATION I RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAT WE HAVE
7:02:50PM THE SAME STAFF IN OUR EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY DIVISION
7:02:54PM WHEN WE WERE A $500 MILLION BUDGET AND NOW WE'RE A $2
7:02:56PM BILLION BUDGET AND THE WORKLOAD HAS INCREASED TREMENDOUSLY.
7:02:59PM SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY JUST BASED ON A REPORT THAT CAME
7:03:07PM OUT, DISPARITY STUDY THAT CAME OUT A WHILE AGO THAT SAID
7:03:10PM THAT WE WERE UNDERUTILIZING MINORITY BUSINESSES IN MUNICIPAL
7:03:15PM CONTRACTS.
7:03:16PM SO IN ORDER FOR US TO BE GREAT, IT APPEARS TO ME AS THOUGH
7:03:22PM WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO INCREASE THE STAFF IN THAT PARTICULAR
7:03:26PM AREA SO WE CAN IMPROVE, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE EVERYTHING
7:03:29PM ABOUT EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION,
7:03:32PM PURCHASING, EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH THAT PARTICULAR OFFICE.
7:03:36PM SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF YOU WILL TAKE THAT UNDER
7:03:40PM CONSIDERATION AND REVIEW IN TERMS OF INCREASING THE STAFF
7:03:47PM THAT HAS NOT CHANGED IN YEARS FROM -- AND I HAVE THE BUDGET
7:03:51PM LIST HERE AND I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ALL THE WEEDS ABOUT
7:03:53PM IT, BUT PARTICULARLY FROM A BUDGET ANALYSIS STANDPOINT,
7:03:58PM BECAUSE THAT WAY THAT PARTICULAR POSITION PROVIDES FOR AN
7:04:03PM OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHERE THERE ARE FLAWS AND IMPROVEMENT IN
7:04:08PM THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
7:04:13PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM.
7:04:14PM TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
7:04:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
7:04:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
7:04:18PM I ASKED ABOUT THIS AND I DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSE.
7:04:22PM I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO KELLY SENT IT TO, BUT DO WE OWN THE
7:04:25PM WELLSWOOD CHURCH?
7:04:29PM >>OCEA WYNN: WE DO OWN THE WELLSWOOD CHURCH, YES.
7:04:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THERE'S $700,000 GOING TOWARDS THIS.
7:04:32PM WHAT IS THE WELLSWOOD CHURCH?
7:04:39PM >>OCEA WYNN: THE WELLSWOOD CHURCH IS A FACILITY -- I DON'T
7:04:42PM WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN, SO I'LL GIVE YOU WHAT WE PROVIDED
7:04:44PM FOR YOU.
7:04:49PM BUT IT IS A CHURCH THAT ONCE WE RENOVATED THE WHOLE AREA,
7:04:52PM ONCE WE ACQUIRED THE WHOLE AREA, THE CHURCH WAS PART OF THAT
7:04:55PM ACQUISITION.
7:04:57PM AND WE NEEDED FUNDING TO ACTUALLY RENOVATE THE CHURCH FOR AN
7:05:02PM ADDITIONAL USE.
7:05:03PM SO THIS INCREASE IN MILLAGE WILL ACTUALLY HELP WITH THAT
7:05:07PM FUNDING IN TERMS OF REPURPOSING THE BUILDING THAT'S THERE.
7:05:11PM IF YOU'VE BEEN OVER TO THE AREA, YOU'LL SEE THAT ALL OF THE
7:05:14PM OTHER -- THE SITE AMENITIES, THOSE AMENITIES, THE CLASSROOMS
7:05:19PM WERE RENOVATED SEVERAL YEARS BACK.
7:05:22PM BUT WE DID NOT HAVE THE FUNDING FOR THE WELLS WOOD CHURCH.
7:05:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE UNDER THE CIP, IT SAYS TO BE USED FOR
7:05:31PM PROGRAMMING NEEDS AS A THERAPEUTIC HUB.
7:05:35PM >>OCEA WYNN: FOR THE WELLS WOOD CHURCH.
7:05:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANT.
7:05:41PM >>OCEA WYNN: LET ME GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
7:05:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
7:05:44PM I APPRECIATE IT.
7:05:44PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS ACTUALLY COMMUNITY CENTER NOW.
7:05:47PM THAT WAS THE PART THAT WE JUST WEREN'T SURE ABOUT.
7:05:50PM >>OCEA WYNN: IT WILL BE A COMMUNITY CENTER.
7:05:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SEE.
7:05:53PM IT WILL BE.
7:05:54PM WE'VE ACQUIRED IT.
7:05:55PM IT WILL BE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY CENTER SPACE.
7:05:57PM SO NOT ONLY ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND TO FIX IT UP, THEN
7:06:00PM WE'LL HAVE TO STAFF IT AS WELL WYNN WYNN YES, MA'AM.
7:06:03PM AND THAT WOULD.
7:06:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE NEXT
7:06:06PM BUDGET.
7:06:07PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES.
7:06:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
7:06:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REAL QUICK.
7:06:11PM I HAVEN'T ASKED YOU THIS OFF-LINE.
7:06:13PM SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
7:06:14PM THE HIRING THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING, I KNOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM
7:06:17PM IN THE CITY OF TREES THAT ARE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BEING ABLE
7:06:19PM TO TRIM THEM.
7:06:21PM THERE IS A BIG BACK LOG OF HAZARDOUS TREE REMOVAL AND TREE
7:06:24PM TRIMMING.
7:06:25PM WITH THE STAFFING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, IS IT ENOUGH TO BE
7:06:27PM ABLE TO CUT INTO THAT BACKLOG AND BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF
7:06:30PM THOSE NEEDS?
7:06:31PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, SIR.
7:06:32PM BECAUSE I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE, I DID NOT GO INTO THAT
7:06:36PM LEVEL OF DETAIL.
7:06:37PM BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE STAFFING WOULD BE USED FOR IN
7:06:40PM ADDITION WITH THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S NEEDED FOR -- RELIABLE
7:06:44PM EQUIPMENT THAT'S NEEDED TO HANDLE THAT BACKLOG AS WELL.
7:06:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW IF ANY CITIZEN HAS EVER TRIED
7:06:52PM TO GET -- YOU KNOW, THE TREE THAT WAS ON CITY PROPERTY TAKEN
7:06:53PM CARE OF.
7:06:54PM IT IS A LONG BACKLOG RIGHT NOW.
7:06:55PM >>OCEA WYNN: SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS.
7:06:57PM YES, SIR.
7:06:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
7:07:00PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
7:07:01PM NEXT UP, HOUSING.
7:07:03PM MS. TRAVIS.
7:07:11PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
7:07:14PM NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
7:07:17PM OPPORTUNITY.
7:07:18PM JUST A FEW POINTS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER AS YOU CONSIDER THE
7:07:22PM PROPOSED BUDGET WITH THE MILLAGE INCREASE AS IT RELATES TO
7:07:25PM HOUSING.
7:07:26PM OVER THE PAST YEAR, WE'VE ALL HEARD THE PUBLIC OUTCRY
7:07:30PM RELATED TO THE URGENT NEED TO INVEST IN HOUSING WITHIN THE
7:07:35PM CITY OF TAMPA.
7:07:36PM MONTH AFTER MONTH, THESE CHAMBERS WERE FILLED WITH CITIZENS
7:07:39PM BEGGING AND PLEADING WITH YOU ALL TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP
7:07:41PM THE RESIDENTS THAT WORK AND LIVE HERE TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO
7:07:45PM CONTINUE TO RESIDE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.
7:07:48PM A LOT OF YOU HEARD THIS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AS IT RELATES
7:07:53PM TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
7:07:55PM CONTINUED SUPPORT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
7:07:57PM AS WE STRIVE TO TACKLE THE COMPLEX ISSUES OF HOMELESSNESS,
7:08:02PM IT BECOMES INCREASINGLY EVIDENT THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING
7:08:05PM PLAYS A PIVOTAL ROLE IN OUR QUEST FOR SUSTAINABLE SOLUTIONS.
7:08:10PM RESEARCH HAS REPEATEDLY SHOWN A STRONG CORRELATION BETWEEN
7:08:14PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND A ROBUST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
7:08:16PM COMMUNITY.
7:08:16PM PRIORITIZING AFFORDABLE HOUSING INVESTMENTS, WE NOT ONLY
7:08:21PM PROVIDE SHELTER AND STABILITY FOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE
7:08:25PM CITIZENS BUT FUEL THE ENGINE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH, UNLOCKING
7:08:29PM UNTAPPED POTENTIAL AND FOSTERING A THRIVING COMMUNITY.
7:08:32PM THE ADDITIONAL INFLUX OF $134 MILLION FROM THE MILLAGE
7:08:41PM INCREASE COULD ULTIMATELY PRODUCE AN ESTIMATED 1,791
7:08:45PM LONG-TERM AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS BETWEEN RENTAL AND HOME
7:08:48PM OWNERSHIP IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT
7:08:53PM PROGRAMS, EITHER THROUGH DIRECT SUBSIDY OR STRATEGIC
7:08:57PM ACQUISITION OF PROPERTIES.
7:08:58PM IT ALSO INCLUDES DIRECT ASSISTANCE FOR 1,875 RESIDENTS.
7:09:04PM THAT'S TO HELP STABILIZE THEM IN THEIR HOMES.
7:09:07PM THAT NUMBER ALSO INCLUDES 300 PEOPLE WHO WILL BE SUPPORTED
7:09:12PM THROUGH TAMPA HOPE.
7:09:13PM THIS COULD COME FROM THE ADDITIONAL INFLUX OF $5.5 MILLION
7:09:18PM IN REOCCURRING RESOURCES ANNUALLY FOR HOUSING STABILITY
7:09:24PM PROGRAMS.
7:09:24PM THE PROPOSED MILLAGE INCREASE OFFERS STRATEGIC OPPORTUNITY
7:09:28PM TO FORAGE POWERFUL PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, FACILITATING
7:09:33PM SWIFT ACQUISITIONS AND PAVING THE WAY TOWARDS A BRIGHTER
7:09:36PM FUTURE FOR TAMPA AND ALL ITS RESIDENTS.
7:09:38PM AND ALL ITS RESIDENTS.
7:09:42PM WITHOUT THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, ONLY BE $4.5 MILLION IN
7:09:52PM LOCAL FUNDS ALLOCATED SOLELY TO HOUSING STABILITY PROGRAMS.
7:09:55PM THAT ALONG WITH OTHER STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING WOULD SERVE
7:09:58PM ABOUT 628 HOUSEHOLDS, WHICH IS LESS THAN A THIRD OF WHAT YOU
7:10:05PM COULD DO IF YOU HAD THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE MILLAGE
7:10:08PM INCREASE.
7:10:08PM ONLY $4.1 MILLION WOULD GO TOWARDS STRATEGIC ACQUISITION AND
7:10:13PM DIRECT CREATION AND PRESERVATION OF LONG-TERM AFFORDABLE
7:10:16PM UNITS.
7:10:17PM THIS COULD POSSIBLY PRODUCE ABOUT 68 UNITS.
7:10:22PM IN SUMMARY, THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING AVAILABLE THROUGH THE
7:10:26PM PROPOSED BUDGET WILL ALLOW FOR A 40 TIMES INCREASE IN THE
7:10:30PM NUMBER OF LONG-TERM AFFORDABLE UNITS.
7:10:33PM THE CITY CAN HELP CREATE OR PRESERVE AND A THREE-TIME
7:10:37PM INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT WE CAN HELP
7:10:40PM STABILIZE.
7:10:40PM I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF BENNETT TO CLOSE US OUT
7:10:45PM UNLESS, OF COURSE, --
7:10:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS HE GOING TO CONTINUE ABOUT HOUSING?
7:10:50PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NO.
7:10:51PM HE'S JUST CLOSING OUT THE PRESENTATION.
7:10:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
7:10:54PM JUST A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT HOUSING, AND I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS
7:10:59PM SINCE LAST WEEK SINCE MY LAST MEETING.
7:11:01PM PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY RENT.
7:11:03PM WE ARE ALLOCATING OR HAVE ALLOCATED MONEY TO ASSIST THOSE
7:11:07PM INDIVIDUALS.
7:11:08PM IF WE RAISE THE MILLAGE BY 1 MILL, THE BURDEN GOES ON THE
7:11:14PM LANDLORD.
7:11:15PM THE LANDLORD WILL THEN IN TURN CONTINUE RAISING THE RENTS
7:11:18PM BECAUSE IF THEY HAVE A -- IF THEY OWN THE PROPERTY OUTRIGHT,
7:11:22PM I DON'T KNOW.
7:11:22PM BUT IF THE LANDLORD OR THE PROPERTY OWNER OWES MONEY TO THE
7:11:25PM BANK, THE BANK IS GOING TO LOOK AT DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE,
7:11:29PM AND THEY ARE GOING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS GONE UP, WHICH
7:11:32PM IS THE MILLAGE, WHICH IS THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.
7:11:35PM YOU HAVE TO OFFSET THAT SOMEHOW.
7:11:36PM AND THEY ARE GOING TO OFFSET THAT MOST LIKELY BY PASSING ON
7:11:40PM THAT BURDEN TO THE RENTER, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL, WHETHER
7:11:43PM IT'S RESIDENTIAL.
7:11:44PM SO MY QUESTION IS, WE WOULD BE DEDICATING MILLIONS OF
7:11:47PM DOLLARS TOWARDS HOUSING, BUT DOES IT -- IS IT
7:11:50PM COUNTERPRODUCTIVE?
7:11:51PM DOES IT CANCEL ITSELF OUT WHERE WE ARE SPENDING THAT MONEY
7:11:54PM TO ACCOMMODATE THE NOW RAISING OF THE RENTS OR CONTINUE
7:11:58PM RAISING THE RENTS OR PUTTING MORE PEOPLE -- THAT THEY CAN'T
7:12:05PM AFFORD WHATEVER THE RENTAL IS FOR THEIR HOME.
7:12:08PM THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
7:12:08PM I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WANT TO DEDICATE WITH THE MILLAGE
7:12:11PM INCREASE AND, OF COURSE, I SUPPORT HOUSING, BUT IS IT JUST
7:12:14PM IN TURN GOING TO CONTINUE BURDENING THE RENTER?
7:12:17PM BECAUSE THE LANDLORD HAS TO PAY.
7:12:21PM THE LANDLORD IS THE ONE PAYING THE PROPERTY TAXES AND THE
7:12:24PM MAINTENANCE ON TOP OF RISING INSURANCE RATES AND THEN HAVING
7:12:28PM TO ANSWER TO THE BANK.
7:12:29PM IS IT COUNTERPRODUCTIVE?
7:12:32PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IN A SHORT ANSWER, NO.
7:12:33PM YOU CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO INVEST IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
7:12:36PM YOU CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO INVEST IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND,
7:12:41PM YES, THE PROPERTY OWNERS MAY PASS SOME OF THAT RENT ON TO
7:12:47PM RENTERS, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAST SLIDE, IF YOU DO
7:12:51PM NOTHING, WE ONLY GET TO ADD 68 NEW UNITS WITH THE CURRENT
7:12:55PM FUNDING THAT WE HAVE.
7:12:56PM IF YOU WERE TO INCREASE THE MILLAGE INCREASE, YOU GET 40
7:13:00PM TIMES MORE UNITS.
7:13:02PM YOU GET TO ADD TO THE INVENTORY.
7:13:04PM THAT ALSO LOWERS -- BECAUSE, REMEMBER OVER THE LAST YEAR,
7:13:09PM RIGHT, SO THIS IS NOT MY FIRST TIME IN FRONT OF YOU ABOUT
7:13:13PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
7:13:13PM WE'VE BEEN HERE THIS TIME LAST YEAR, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER IT
7:13:16PM WAS PRETTY EXCITING.
7:13:18PM WE WERE HERE IN THE EVENING.
7:13:19PM COUPLE OF FIST POUNDING ON THE DAIS ABOUT AFFORDABLE
7:13:23PM HOUSING.
7:13:23PM IF YOU DON'T INVEST IN HOUSING, THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND
7:13:30PM PROGRAM WILL CONTINUE TO PERSIST AND YOUR RENTAL RATES WILL
7:13:33PM CONTINUE TO GO UP.
7:13:34PM SO FOR A SMALL INCREASE, YES, IN THE MILLAGE RATE THERE ARE
7:13:39PM SOME.
7:13:40PM YOU GET TO ADD AN INFLUX OF SUPPLY TO THAT INVENTORY THAT
7:13:44PM HELPS RELIEVE THAT PRESSURE.
7:13:46PM IT'S LIKE A PRESSURE COOKER.
7:13:48PM IT'S GOING TO KEEP COOKING AND SIZZLING UNTIL YOU RELEASE
7:13:51PM THAT PRESSURE A LITTLE BIT.
7:13:53PM SO, NO, RESPECTFULLY, NO.
7:13:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BECAUSE I'M THINKING TO BUILD THE
7:13:56PM HOUSING, IT'S GOING TO TAKE YEARS TO DO SO.
7:13:59PM BUT THE IMPACT ECONOMICALLY ON THE PROPERTY TAXES, ON THE
7:14:03PM PROPERTY OWNER IS QUICKER.
7:14:05PM IT'S NOT INSTANT, BUT IT'S COMING BEFORE THE HOUSING IS
7:14:09PM GOING TO BE MADE AVAILABLE.
7:14:10PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SURE.
7:14:11PM TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, ABSOLUTELY.
7:14:15PM THE PROPERTY OWNERS, LIKE MYSELF, WILL START PAYING ON THAT
7:14:20PM INCREASE IMMEDIATELY.
7:14:22PM AND IT WILL TAKE YEARS FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE CONCEPT
7:14:28PM PHASE TO CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH CONCEPTUAL UNTIL ULTIMATELY
7:14:32PM BUILT.
7:14:33PM RIGHT NOW, I DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH
7:14:35PM A DEVELOPER THAT'S CONSIDERING DEVELOPING RIGHT NOW TO ADD
7:14:39PM -- TO PROVIDE DIRECT SUBSIDY TO LOWER THE COST FOR SOME
7:14:43PM UNITS ON SOMETHING THAT MAY COME ONLINE SOON.
7:14:48PM NOT ONLY THAT, THERE ARE STRATEGIC PROPERTIES THAT ARE
7:14:51PM AVAILABLE WITHIN THE CITY OUTSIDE OF YOUR CRAs THAT I
7:14:54PM CANNOT PURCHASE.
7:14:56PM I DON'T HAVE THE REVENUE TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE THESE
7:14:58PM PROPERTIES TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES OR --
7:15:03PM IT'S CHEAPER TO BUY PROPERTY NOW THAN IT WILL BE TOMORROW OR
7:15:07PM THE NEXT DAY.
7:15:08PM YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO POSITION YOURSELF TO RESPOND
7:15:13PM STRATEGICALLY AND WORK WITH PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
7:15:16PM RIGHT NOW, I DIDN'T PRESENT THAT SLIDE TO YOU THIS EVENING,
7:15:20PM BUT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE 10,000 GOAL OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING
7:15:24PM UNITS.
7:15:24PM THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE IN THE QUEUE THAT NEED SOME KIND
7:15:29PM OF FINANCIAL SUBSIDY, AND IT'S LESS -- IT COSTS US LESS TO
7:15:35PM PARTNER WITH A DEVELOPER TO ADD UNITS ON THAN TO GO DEVELOP
7:15:40PM IT OURSELVES.
7:15:41PM A GOOD EXAMPLE IS THE MOST RECENT PROJECT THAT YOU APPROVED
7:15:44PM WHICH WAS THE FUNLAN PROJECT.
7:15:47PM IT WAS $12 MILLION.
7:15:49PM THE ONLY REASON WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT IS BECAUSE OF ARPA
7:15:52PM FUNDS.
7:15:52PM IF IT WEREN'T FOR ARPA FUNDS, I WOULD NOT HAVE HAD THE CASH
7:15:55PM TO DO A PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO ADD 354 UNITS TO THE
7:16:00PM INVENTORY.
7:16:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST THE MILLAGE THAT
7:16:04PM IS GOING TO BE INCREASING THE PROPERTY TAXES, PEOPLE'S TECO
7:16:08PM BILLS ARE UP, PEOPLE'S CAR INSURANCE IS UP.
7:16:11PM MY TECO BILL IS UP.
7:16:12PM MY CAR INSURANCE IS UP.
7:16:13PM YOU KNOW, THE COST OF FOOD.
7:16:16PM THE COST OF EVERYTHING ELSE.
7:16:18PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I KNOW.
7:16:19PM ME, TOO.
7:16:19PM I KNOW.
7:16:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT WE'RE ADDING ANOTHER, YOU KNOW,
7:16:23PM BURDEN.
7:16:24PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: BUT YOU CAN'T AFFORD NOT TO INVEST IN IT
7:16:26PM BECAUSE IT IS JUST GOING TO EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM.
7:16:29PM THE SUPPLY AND DEMAND IS PART OF THE ISSUE.
7:16:35PM THE MARKET RATE WILL COME ON ITS OWN.
7:16:37PM THE PEOPLE, THE MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS, THAT'S WHY IN MY
7:16:41PM TALKING POINTS, I'M SPEAKING FOR ALL RESIDENTS.
7:16:44PM I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MOST AFFLUENT RESIDENTS OR
7:16:47PM RESIDENTS THAT CAN AFFORD TO BUY CONDOS IN CERTAIN AREAS.
7:16:51PM I'M TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE 80% OF THE AMI AND BELOW
7:16:56PM THAT ARE GETTING FORCED OUT THAT THERE IS NO PLACE FOR THEM
7:16:59PM TO LIVE.
7:16:59PM WE'RE AT 26,000 UNIT DEFICIT FOR 50% AMI AND BELOW.
7:17:05PM THERE'S NO UPWARD MOBILITY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN
7:17:09PM APARTMENTS THAT PROBABLY COULD AFFORD MORE.
7:17:11PM THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THEM TO GO BECAUSE IT IS A
7:17:13PM SUPPLY-AND-DEMAND ISSUE.
7:17:14PM AND SO, YES, WHILE IT IS A MILLAGE AND THE COSTS MAY GO UP,
7:17:19PM IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, THE PROBLEM BECOMES WORSE.
7:17:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
7:17:23PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:17:24PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
7:17:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
7:17:27PM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAID,
7:17:30PM HOWEVER, EVEN IF THERE'S NOTHING DONE, EVEN IF WE BUY IN OR
7:17:37PM BUY OUT, I IMAGINE THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, UNLESS SOMETHING
7:17:40PM DRASTICALLY HAPPENS IN THIS COUNTRY, THAT PROBLEM IS GOING
7:17:43PM TO EXACERBATE EVEN MORE.
7:17:46PM SOMEBODY MOVES IN FROM NEW ENGLAND OR NEW YORK OR FROM
7:17:49PM MICHIGAN, OH, MY GOD, I JUST SOLD MY CONDO -- I BOUGHT A
7:17:54PM CONDO IN TAMPA FOR 11.5 MILLION.
7:17:56PM AND THEY SAY, ARE YOU CRAZY?
7:17:58PM HE SAID, NO, I SOLD MINE FOR 32 MILLION IN NEW YORK, SO I
7:18:03PM MADE 20 MILLION AND I GOT A BIGGER SPACE AND A BETTER LIVING
7:18:06PM AREA.
7:18:07PM SO THAT'S WHY THEY ARE COMING DOWN.
7:18:09PM SO THAT'S NOT GOING TO STOP UNLESS THERE'S COMPLETE DOWNFALL
7:18:13PM IN THE WHOLE SYSTEM OF DEMOCRACY.
7:18:17PM YOU CAN BUY WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD.
7:18:19PM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU SAID.
7:18:20PM IT'S FACTUAL, BUT EVEN IF WE TRY TO SLOW IT DOWN, IT'S NOT
7:18:25PM GOING TO WORK.
7:18:25PM AND IN MY OPINION, YOU HAVE TO LAND-BANK BEFORE YOU START
7:18:30PM THINKING ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
7:18:32PM I'VE GONE WITH YOU ON RIDES AND SO HAPPENED THAT IT WAS
7:18:35PM OUTSIDE THE CRA.
7:18:36PM BUT THERE'S VERY LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE CRAs, AT
7:18:41PM LEAST SOME OF THEM.
7:18:42PM SOME HAVE MUCH MORE THAN OTHERS.
7:18:43PM BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR, AND IT'S
7:18:47PM GOING TO GET TOUGHER.
7:18:48PM THIS IS NOT GOING TO GET EASIER UNLESS YOU PUT A WALL AROUND
7:18:52PM TEXAS AND DON'T LET ANYBODY ELSE INTO TAMPA.
7:18:55PM AND I'M JUST USING AN EXAMPLE.
7:18:57PM AND THAT IS A BAD EXAMPLE, AND I ADMIT TO THAT.
7:19:00PM BUT AT LEAST IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR
7:19:05PM THOSE THAT WANT TO DO SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE.
7:19:09PM AND I THINK THEY ARE COMING UP FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
7:19:12PM AND IF WE DON'T HANDLE THE CLIMATE, FORGET ABOUT ANYTHING
7:19:16PM ELSE.
7:19:17PM WON'T BE A TAMPA, WON'T BE ANYTHING.
7:19:20PM WHAT HAPPENED IN HAWAII ON ONE OF THE ISLANDS COULD HAPPEN
7:19:23PM HERE ANYTIME OR ANY PLACE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
7:19:26PM WHEN THE WATER DEGREE IS 100 DEGREES IN KEY WEST, IF ONE
7:19:31PM HURRICANE COMES, LITTLE PUPPY, BY THE TIME IT GETS HERE IT
7:19:35PM IS A ROTTWEILER.
7:19:37PM THESE ARE THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.
7:19:39PM TODAY, WE ARE JUST GAMBLING WITH OURSELVES AND THAT'S HOW
7:19:42PM NATURE -- WE DESTRUCT NATURE OURSELVES AND OURSELVES NOW TO
7:19:47PM BRING IT BACK.
7:19:48PM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO AND IT IS GETTING MORE
7:19:50PM AND MORE DIFFICULT.
7:19:51PM THANK YOU.
7:19:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
7:19:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
7:19:53PM YEAH, IT'S NOT GOING TO SLOW DOWN.
7:19:58PM IT'S NOT GOING TO SLOW DOWN.
7:19:59PM AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING LONG-TERM VERSUS SHORT-TERM, I FEEL
7:20:04PM -- I'M SORRY.
7:20:05PM THANK YOU.
7:20:05PM IT IS.
7:20:08PM ABSOLUTELY, WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF THINKING IN THE
7:20:11PM SHORT-TERM.
7:20:12PM THAT'S WHAT GOT US IN THIS POSITION, AND WE REALLY HAVE TO
7:20:16PM THINK ABOUT BIGGER PICTURE.
7:20:18PM AND WHEN YOU AND I HAVE TALKED, WE TALKED ABOUT TWO
7:20:23PM ACQUISITIONS THAT THIS CITY COULD HAVE PURCHASED.
7:20:26PM TWO HOTELS, AND I ASKED YOU IF YOU POSSIBLY GOT A ROOM COUNT
7:20:31PM FOR ME.
7:20:32PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YEAH, 237 UNITS.
7:20:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WE COULD HAVE GOT 237 UNITS THAT WE COULD
7:20:36PM HAVE USED SHORT TERM TO GET FAMILIES OUT OF THEIR CARS AND
7:20:41PM OFF OF THE STREETS.
7:20:41PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S CORRECT.
7:20:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE I'M GETTING E-MAILS ABOUT
7:20:45PM HOMELESSNESS.
7:20:45PM IF WE HAD A PLACE TO PUT THEM JUST FOR A SHORT TERM, THAT'S
7:20:50PM 237 ROOMS THAT CAN FIT FAMILIES AND OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE
7:20:55PM RIGHT NOW, NONE OF OUR SHELTERS TAKE FAMILIES.
7:20:57PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S RIGHT.
7:20:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN, WHAT'S THE ACREAGE OF THOSE PARCELS?
7:21:05PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE'RE PROBABLY CLOSE, BETWEEN BOTH
7:21:07PM PROPERTIES, PROBABLY ABOUT FOUR AND A HALF.
7:21:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO FOUR AND A HALF ACRES.
7:21:10PM THEN WE COULD PARTNER WITH A PRIVATE ENTITY TO TAKE THAT
7:21:18PM SPACE AFTER A FEW YEARS WHEN WE'RE READY AND BUILD A LOT
7:21:24PM MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
7:21:26PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: RIGHT.
7:21:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT WE DID NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THAT, AND
7:21:30PM THAT'S WHAT UPSETS ME IS THAT WE LOST OUT IN THIS
7:21:33PM OPPORTUNITY.
7:21:33PM MAYBE THEY ARE STILL AVAILABLE, BUT WHEN PEOPLE COME TO YOU
7:21:36PM AND SAY, HEY, I'VE GOT THIS OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE WHAT THAT
7:21:40PM FOUR AND A HALF ACRES THEN CAN DO IS GO INTO OUR COMMUNITY
7:21:44PM LAND TRUST.
7:21:44PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.
7:21:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF
7:21:47PM INFORMATION ABOUT COMMUNITY LAND TRUST OUT THERE AND YOU AND
7:21:50PM I TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT AFTER THIS BUDGET WE'RE GOING
7:21:52PM TO GET SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS TO EXPLAIN WHAT WE MEAN BY
7:21:55PM COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, BUT BASICALLY IT JUST KEEPS MONEY IN A
7:21:59PM PUBLIC TRUST, OR LAND IN A PUBLIC TRUST SO THAT THE COST
7:22:02PM DOESN'T GO UP.
7:22:03PM WE CAN HOUSE PEOPLE.
7:22:06PM PEOPLE WHO GENERALLY CANNOT AFFORD TO PURCHASE HOUSES ON
7:22:10PM THEIR OWN OR CONDOS AND ALLOW THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY.
7:22:15PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S RIGHT.
7:22:16PM SO THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST IS A SURE-PROOF WAY ON HOW TO
7:22:21PM AFFORD HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND HOUSING OWNERSHIP FOR
7:22:25PM PEOPLE THAT WOULD GENERALLY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD BUYING
7:22:30PM LAND AND A DEVELOPED PIECE OF PROPERTY ON ITS OWN.
7:22:34PM THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, WITH THE LAND IN THE TRUST, THE
7:22:37PM VALUATION OF THE PROPERTY OF THE VERTICAL PIECE GOES UP.
7:22:40PM SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH, IT'S JUST
7:22:43PM SUBSIDIZED BECAUSE THE COST OF THE LAND IS SUBTRACTED OUT
7:22:45PM FROM THAT.
7:22:46PM AND SO, YES, IF WE HAD -- IF WE WERE TO HAVE -- IF THE
7:22:52PM MILLAGE WERE TO PASS AND WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE CASH TO DO
7:22:56PM STRATEGIC ACQUISITIONS, PUT THE PROPERTY INTO A COMMUNITY
7:22:58PM LAND TRUST, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LAND BANK AND AFFORD HOUSING
7:23:03PM OPPORTUNITIES, NOT JUST IN THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME OWNERSHIP
7:23:06PM OPPORTUNITIES, BUT IT'S MULTIFAMILY.
7:23:09PM COMMUNITY LAND TRUST CAN ALSO OWN THE LAND FOR BUSINESSES AS
7:23:16PM WELL.
7:23:17PM AND SO IT'S TRULY A WAY TO KEEP WEALTH, BUT ALSO KEEP THE
7:23:20PM COST DOWN FOR RESIDENTS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE NOT BE ABLE TO
7:23:26PM AFFORD TO LIVE IN THOSE PROPERTIES.
7:23:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, TO ME IT'S NOT JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO
7:23:30PM LIVE IN THOSE AREAS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT CAN'T
7:23:33PM AFFORD TO LIVE IN AREAS, YOU THINK OF MORE EXPENSIVE AREAS,
7:23:36PM BUT THIS ENTIRE CITY IS BECOMING EXPENSIVE.
7:23:38PM SO IF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GOING TO BE PRICING WORKERS
7:23:41PM OUT OF THE CITY, AND THEN EMPLOYERS ARE GOING TO HAVE A HARD
7:23:44PM TIME HOLDING ON TO THE WORKERS THAT ARE -- THAT HAVE -- THAT
7:23:51PM ARE MORE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE DOING THE EVERYDAY JOBS WE NEED
7:23:56PM THEM TO DO, YOU KNOW, DRY CLEANERS, BARISTAS, RESTAURANT
7:24:00PM WORKERS, DELIVERY PEOPLE, IF THEY DON'T LIVE IN THE CITY
7:24:04PM THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE JOBS OUTSIDE THE CITY.
7:24:06PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S RIGHT.
7:24:07PM SO HOUSING, I PROVIDED AN ARGUMENT TO THE WORLD ECONOMIC
7:24:14PM FORUM THAT WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE, YOU TALK
7:24:19PM GENERALLY PIPES, STORMWATER, WATER, WASTEWATER, BUT HOUSING
7:24:24PM IS A CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO ANY THRIVING ECONOMY.
7:24:29PM AND SO BEING ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE WORKING CLOSELY TO WHERE
7:24:33PM THEY LIVE, IT'S ALL A PART OF BUILDING A ROBUST ECONOMY.
7:24:37PM SO WHAT YOU'RE OUTLINING THERE IS -- IT'S ALL
7:24:40PM INTERCONNECTED, BUT IF PEOPLE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE,
7:24:44PM THE JOBS ARE NOT GOING TO KEEP COMING HERE.
7:24:46PM NEW BUSINESSES ARE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO INVEST AND MOVE
7:24:49PM INTO THE COMMUNITY IF THERE IS NO PLACE FOR THEM TO LIVE.
7:24:52PM AND SO WE'RE AT A CRITICAL POINT IN OUR HISTORY AND WHERE WE
7:24:59PM ARE AS A COMMUNITY JUST BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT
7:25:02PM SAN FRANCISCO, SOME OF THOSE LARGER CITIES, COMPANIES DON'T
7:25:07PM GO THERE ANYMORE UNLESS YOU GO TO SILICON VALLEY, RIGHT,
7:25:11PM BECAUSE NO PLACE TO LIVE, NO PLACE AFFORDABLE TO LIVE.
7:25:15PM YOU EITHER MAKE THE INVESTMENT NOW OR WE PAY LATER THROUGH
7:25:19PM ECONOMY.
7:25:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THAT'S THE THING.
7:25:23PM I THINK HOUSING IS REALLY JUST THE HEART OF EVERYTHING.
7:25:25PM ISSUES WITH HOMELESSNESS, ISSUES WITH EMPLOYMENT, ISSUES
7:25:30PM WITH SAFETY, ISSUES WITH -- I MEAN, JUST LITERALLY EVERY
7:25:34PM PART OF OUR COMMUNITY CAN BE SOLVED WITH MORE HOUSING.
7:25:37PM ONE LAST THING, BECAUSE I ABSOLUTELY SEE THIS AS A LONG-TERM
7:25:43PM GOAL.
7:25:44PM THIS IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO ME AND I WILL DO ANYTHING TO
7:25:48PM HELP THE BUDGET WITH HOUSING BECAUSE HOUSING, IT'S VERY
7:25:52PM SIMILAR TO A LOT OF THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE CRA,
7:25:55PM WHEN WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY, IF WE GET $5 MILLION
7:26:00PM TO THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, THAT'S WHAC-A-MOLE AND WE CAN'T
7:26:06PM EXPAND ON THAT FUNDING.
7:26:08PM THE GOAL IS TO TAKE THAT FUNDING AND THEN BE ABLE TO MATCH
7:26:14PM FEDERAL FUNDING.
7:26:15PM SO GETTING -- I DON'T LIKE TO CALL OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY
7:26:19PM BECAUSE IT'S OUR MONEY.
7:26:20PM I LIKE TO SAY GETTING MORE OF OUR MONEY BACK.
7:26:25PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING TO UNDERSTAND,
7:26:27PM IT'S DIFFICULT FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR FOR DEVELOPERS TO COME
7:26:31PM ALONGSIDE AND PARTNER WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT WHEN IT'S ON AN
7:26:34PM ANNUAL ALLOCATION BASIS.
7:26:36PM IF YOU'RE COMING EVERY FISCAL YEAR AND DEPENDING ON AN
7:26:39PM ANNUAL ALLOCATION OF FOUR OR FIVE MILLION DOLLARS,
7:26:42PM DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS DON'T HAPPEN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
7:26:45PM THEY ARE THINKING THREE, FOUR YEARS OUT.
7:26:48PM SO TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A DEDICATED SOURCE OF REVENUE SO THAT
7:26:51PM YOU CAN PLAN LONG-TERM PROJECTS AND PARTNER WITH THE PRIVATE
7:26:56PM SECTOR, THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED IN THIS TYPE OF COMMITMENT.
7:27:00PM IF YOU LOOK AT ANY OF THE OTHER CITIES -- OH, LET ME BACK UP
7:27:05PM IN SAYING THIS.
7:27:06PM AS A COUNTRY, WE'RE IN AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS BECAUSE
7:27:11PM COMMUNITIES HAVE NOT INVESTED IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE
7:27:14PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
7:27:14PM SO IT'S COMING TO A CRITICAL POINT NOW BECAUSE THERE HAS
7:27:19PM BEEN NEGLECT OVER TIME.
7:27:21PM JUST LIKE YOU NEGLECT YOUR ROADS OR THE MAINTENANCE IN YOUR
7:27:23PM CAR, YOU DON'T -- YOU KNOW, IT COMES TO A BREAKING POINT AT
7:27:27PM SOME POINT.
7:27:27PM I THINK ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.
7:27:30PM THERE ARE MAJOR CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT ARE MAKING
7:27:32PM SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THEIR
7:27:38PM COMMUNITIES.
7:27:38PM IT'S TIME FOR US TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT NOW, OTHERWISE THE
7:27:41PM PROBLEM WILL CONTINUE TO GET WORSE.
7:27:42PM IT WILL BE EXACERBATED.
7:27:47PM IT WILL NOT SOLVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CHALLENGES.
7:27:49PM IT WILL NOT SOLVE OUR HOUSING CRISIS.
7:27:52PM THE DECISION YOU MAKE ON THIS MILLAGE, WHETHER IT BE FOR THE
7:27:55PM FULL MILL, AND THAT'S WHAT THE BUDGET REQUEST IS, IT WILL
7:27:59PM NOT SOLVE THE HOUSING CHALLENGES.
7:28:01PM I KNOW THAT.
7:28:03PM IF I COULD WAVE A MAGIC WAND AND ASK FOR ALL THE MONEY I
7:28:07PM NEED TO SOLVE IT, IT WOULD BE OVER $5 BILLION.
7:28:10PM THAT'S THE DEFICIT THAT WE HAVE IN TAMPA.
7:28:12PM BUT THIS IS A SMALL INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR SO THAT
7:28:15PM WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS OVER THE NEXT FIVE
7:28:18PM YEARS WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND THROUGH STRATEGIC
7:28:20PM ACQUISITIONS.
7:28:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
7:28:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK, BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT
7:28:25PM PERSON, THESE HOTELS IN QUESTION, WITHOUT DISCLOSING WHERE
7:28:28PM THEY ARE, HOW MUCH WERE THESE HOTELS?
7:28:30PM WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE?
7:28:34PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: ONE WAS A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS --
7:28:36PM $8 MILLION.
7:28:37PM AND THE OTHER WAS ABOUT ALMOST 14 MILLION.
7:28:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND WERE THEY IN A CRA?
7:28:42PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NO.
7:28:43PM IF THEY WERE, I WOULD BE BEFORE YOU AS A CRA BOARD.
7:28:50PM SO WHEN THE OPPORTUNITIES HAVE PRESENTED THEMSELVES AND
7:28:52PM THAT'S WITHIN THE CRA, WE BROUGHT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO
7:28:55PM YOU, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE CASH TO ACT QUICKLY ON SOME OF
7:28:59PM THESE PROPERTIES.
7:29:02PM THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CRA, WHICH IS WHY THIS MILLAGE
7:29:06PM INCREASE IS A GAME CHANGER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
7:29:10PM YOU HAVE BEEN VERY STRATEGIC AND INTENTIONAL WITHIN YOUR CRA
7:29:14PM DISTRICTS TO SET ASIDE 30% OF THE FUNDING TO FOCUS ON
7:29:19PM HOUSING.
7:29:19PM THAT WORKS IN THE DISTRICTS.
7:29:21PM BUT WHEN THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICTS,
7:29:23PM THERE IS NO FUNDING TO DO THAT.
7:29:25PM AND SO SHOULD WE BE -- IF WE GET THIS MILLAGE INCREASE, IT
7:29:32PM WOULD ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE CITY AS A WHOLE,
7:29:37PM NOT JUST IN CRA DISTRICTS, BUT FOR ANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT
7:29:40PM MAY ARISE OUTSIDE OF THOSE GEOGRAPHIC BOUNDARIES.
7:29:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I ASK A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION?
7:29:46PM SUPER FAST.
7:29:47PM FUNLAN, HOW MANY ACRES?
7:29:50PM TRAVIS THERE WAS A 13.5 ACRES.
7:29:56PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: 13.5 ACRES.
7:29:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 12 MILLION FOR --
7:30:01PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: 12 MILLION FOR 354 UNITS, 100%.
7:30:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
7:30:08PM 22 MILLION, 237 TEMPORARY UNITS AND THE POSSIBILITY ON FOUR
7:30:15PM ACRES --
7:30:16PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: -- EVEN THOUGH I ALREADY ENTERED THAT INTO
7:30:18PM THE RECORD.
7:30:19PM MY TEAM IS PROBABLY SHAKING THEIR HEAD SAYING I DIDN'T GIVE
7:30:22PM THE RIGHT NUMBER.
7:30:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, JUST THE COST OF
7:30:31PM LAND.
7:30:31PM WE BASICALLY BOUGHT THAT FUNLAN FOR HALF OF WHAT IT'S VALUE
7:30:36PM IS RIGHT NOW.
7:30:37PM NOT BOUGHT, GAVE BASICALLY THAT MONEY.
7:30:39PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YOU ESSENTIALLY LOCKED IN 354 -- 100% OF
7:30:44PM THE UNITS IN THAT DEVELOPMENT IN PERPETUITY KEEPING THOSE
7:30:50PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR $12 MILLION.
7:30:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
7:30:52PM THANK YOU.
7:30:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
7:30:54PM ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE WE -- YES, SIR.
7:30:56PM BEFORE WE GO TO THE CHIEF.
7:30:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I THINK WE GOT
7:31:00PM A GLIMPSE OF THE CHARLIE MIRANDA 2027 CAMPAIGN AD, SOMETHING
7:31:05PM LIKE BUILD A WALL.
7:31:07PM I THINK THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.
7:31:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TEAR DOWN THE WALL.
7:31:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 2027 MIRANDA.
7:31:13PM A COUPLE OF THINGS.
7:31:17PM ONE, I THINK FOR FOLKS LISTENING, TOO, I THINK WE REALLY --
7:31:21PM AND A LOT OF THE E-MAILS WE GET, PEOPLE LOOK AT THE CITY OF
7:31:24PM TAMPA BUDGET AS ONE UNIT.
7:31:28PM AND BECAUSE OF THE CRAs, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT,
7:31:31PM ESPECIALLY FOR ALL THE STAFF WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE
7:31:33PM BUDGET, THEY NEED TO DIVIDE THIS UP, WE HAVE THE BUDGET OF
7:31:36PM THE CRAs, WHICH IS A SUBSTANTIAL PORTION, ESPECIALLY OUR
7:31:39PM GROWTH AREA.
7:31:40PM SO WHEN PEOPLE SEE THIS EXPLODING GROWTH AND ALL THE REALLY
7:31:44PM RESPONSIVE UNITS AND ALL, THEY ARE WITHIN THAT CRA, AND YOU
7:31:47PM HIT ON A LITTLE BIT THAT ALL THAT MONEY IS RESTRICTED JUST
7:31:49PM TO THE CRAs.
7:31:50PM WE CAN'T SPEND IT IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY.
7:31:52PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: CORRECT.
7:31:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN YOU SAW THE OPPORTUNITIES, THEY WERE
7:31:56PM OUTSIDE OF THE CRA, THAT'S THE OTHER PART WHERE EVERYBODY IS
7:31:58PM FIGHTING OVER CRUMBS FOR THE REST OF THE CITY AND THERE ARE
7:32:00PM NO OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THIS.
7:32:01PM I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU HIT ON THAT.
7:32:03PM YOU KNOW, IT'S A CHALLENGE, AND I DO, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE
7:32:09PM THE FACT THAT YOU SAID EVEN WITH THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IT'S
7:32:12PM JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.
7:32:13PM I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU OR YOUR STAFF TO COME BACK TO ME -- AND
7:32:16PM YOU CAN BRING BACK PRIVATELY, I'M NOT PUTTING YOU ON THE
7:32:19PM SPOT NOW -- BUT MAYBE TO TAKE A SAMPLING OF AFFORDABLE
7:32:24PM HOUSING RENTAL UNITS, BOTH MULTIFAMILY COMPLEXES AND MAYBE
7:32:26PM SOME SMALLER SINGLE-FAMILY, AND TALK ABOUT WITH THE MILLAGE
7:32:30PM INCREASE AND WHAT THE REAL -- WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE PER UNIT.
7:32:36PM AGAIN, A SAMPLING AROUND THE CITY, SO WE HAVE A GOOD
7:32:40PM UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT PASS-THROUGH MAY BE TO A RENTER
7:32:43PM THAT LIVES IN A LARGE MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX OR A SINGLE-FAMILY
7:32:48PM HOUSE, A RENTER.
7:32:49PM NOT THE EXPENSIVE UNITS BUT IN THE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE MAY
7:32:52PM BE STRUGGLING MAYBE, I THINK MAYBE BUILD OUR COMFORT LEVEL
7:32:56PM UP IF WE KNEW WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE IN REAL DOLLARS WITH THE
7:33:00PM IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE FAMILIES.
7:33:03PM I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THAT AS AN IOU FROM ME.
7:33:06PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IT WON'T BE EXACT BUT TAKING A STAB AT A
7:33:11PM PRIVATE ENTITY'S PRO FORMA ON HOW THEY WOULD PASS THROUGH.
7:33:14PM I CAN GIVE YOU AN IDEA.
7:33:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE NO IDEA.
7:33:18PM I LOOK AT 250 UNIT THAT IS 100% AFFORDABLE HOUSING I DON'T
7:33:22PM KNOW WHAT THAT PROPERTY TAX OR WHAT THAT INCREASE WOULD BE
7:33:25PM AND WHAT THAT MEANS PER UNIT.
7:33:27PM IT WOULD BE NICE TO QUANTIFY THAT, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK
7:33:30PM ANYBODY UP HERE WANTS TO DISPLACE PEOPLE BASED ON A TAX
7:33:33PM INCREASE.
7:33:34PM I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THAT REALISTIC FIGURE, WHAT
7:33:36PM THAT LOOKS LIKE.
7:33:37PM THANK YOU.
7:33:39PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I'LL TAKE A SHOT AT IT.
7:33:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
7:33:43PM -- HENDERSON AND THEN CARLSON.
7:33:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU CAN GO.
7:33:50PM MY COLD IS GETTING TO ME.
7:33:51PM I WON'T SPEAK.
7:33:52PM THAT'S FINE.
7:33:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO SAY FOR THE PUBLIC WATCHING,
7:33:59PM REITERATE WHAT YOU SAID.
7:34:01PM THE REASON WHY YOU'RE HERE IS BECAUSE OF A LOT OF NEGLECT.
7:34:04PM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY A FEW YEARS AGO PRESENTED TO US AND
7:34:08PM THEY SAID THE OFFICIAL NUMBER WAS 25,000, BUT THEY SAID
7:34:10PM ABOUT 25,000 PEOPLE HAD GIVEN UP AND NOT SIGNED UP ANYMORE.
7:34:14PM SO THEY SAID THE REAL NUMBER IS ABOUT 50,000.
7:34:17PM AND THE CITY FOR A LONG TIME WAS TEARING DOWN PUBLIC
7:34:20PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING INSTEAD OF BUILDING NEW ONES.
7:34:21PM AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO CHANGE THAT.
7:34:23PM YOU BROUGHT ON AN EXCELLENT TEAM.
7:34:25PM SOME OF THEM ARE SITTING BEHIND YOU TO TRY TO CHANGE THIS.
7:34:28PM SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE, WE AS CRA BOARD, THE CITY COUNCIL,
7:34:32PM WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND YOUR DEPARTMENT HAVE PUT
7:34:35PM IN HISTORIC AMOUNTS INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
7:34:38PM AND FOR ANYBODY WHO IS WATCHING WHO IS A BUSINESS PERSON,
7:34:41PM YOU KNOW IN THE OLD DAYS, HUNDRED YEARS AGO OR SO, STILL IN
7:34:44PM OTHER COUNTRIES, THERE ARE CORPORATE TOWNS.
7:34:47PM SO CORPORATIONS WOULD BUILD HOUSING THAT WAS AFFORDABLE FOR
7:34:52PM THEIR STAFF.
7:34:53PM THE REASON WHY THEY DID IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS A HIGH COST
7:34:56PM TO COMPANIES.
7:34:56PM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ECONOMIC IMPACT, THERE IS A VERY HIGH
7:34:59PM COST TO COMPANIES AND THE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE AND OTHERS
7:35:02PM KNOW THAT.
7:35:02PM IF YOUR STAFF HAVE TO LIVE IN HERNANDO COUNTY AND DRIVE TWO
7:35:05PM HOURS EACH WAY EVERY DAY, THERE IS A HUGE COST ON THEIR
7:35:08PM FAMILY.
7:35:09PM THERE IS A COST IN THE ROADWAYS AND EVERYTHING, TAXES GOING
7:35:12PM UP.
7:35:12PM AND SO WE HAVE TO -- WE HAVE TO THINK OF THIS AS NOT JUST A
7:35:16PM SOCIAL ISSUE, WHICH IT IS, BUT ALSO AS AN ECONOMIC
7:35:19PM DEVELOPMENT ISSUE.
7:35:19PM THE LAST THING IS WHETHER MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT A TAX
7:35:25PM INCREASE OR NOT, ON THURSDAY WE'RE SITTING AS THE CRA BOARD
7:35:30PM AND WE'RE SEEING SOME NEW CHARTS IN ITEMS 6 AND 7, AND ONE
7:35:34PM OF THEM THAT I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR A WHILE IS TO PUT A CAP
7:35:37PM ON THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
7:35:39PM THERE IS NO SLUM AND BLIGHT IN DOWNTOWN.
7:35:41PM THERE'S NO REASON TO SPEND AFFORDABLE HOUSING MONEY IN
7:35:43PM DOWNTOWN BECAUSE WE CAN GET TEN TIMES THE BANG FOR OUR BUCK
7:35:46PM OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN.
7:35:47PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIFE OF THAT DOWNTOWN CRA, NOW THAT THE
7:35:51PM NEW NUMBERS THAT YOU ALL PRESENTED THAT'S IN THERE, WE CAN
7:35:53PM GET SOMETHING LIKE $330 MILLION STARTING WITH 5 OR 10
7:35:59PM MILLION DOLLARS NEXT YEAR.
7:36:00PM THIS IS ABOVE -- AFTER WE PAY ALL THE THINGS THAT WE
7:36:03PM PROMISE, SO WE KEEP ALL OF OUR PROMISES.
7:36:05PM EVERYBODY BEEN PROMISED GETS PAID, AFTER THAT WE HAVE ACCESS
7:36:09PM TO 300 AND SOMETHING MILLION DOLLARS.
7:36:12PM AS THE CRA BOARD, WE CAN SAY WE WANT TO PUT A CAP ON IT.
7:36:16PM ALSO WITH THIS TAX INCREASE, 8.2 MILLION IS COMING TO THE
7:36:21PM CRAs ADDITIONAL, ABOUT HALF OF THAT IS GOING TO CHANNEL
7:36:27PM DISTRICT.
7:36:28PM AS A CAP ON DOWNTOWN, WE CAN PUT A CAP ON THAT INCREASE SO
7:36:30PM THAT A BIG CHUNK OF IT GOES OVER TO THE CITY.
7:36:33PM THEN AS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S
7:36:35PM OFFICE, WE CAN DEDICATE THAT MONEY, THE ADDITIONAL PORTION
7:36:40PM OF THE 8.2 MILLION AND/OR WHATEVER IS COMING -- EXCESS IS
7:36:44PM COMING OFF THE DOWNTOWN CRA, WE CAN PUT IT IN THE HOUSING
7:36:46PM FUND IF WE WANT.
7:36:47PM AND WE CAN PUT IT IN YOUR -- IN THE LAND THRUST.
7:36:51PM AS CITY COUNCIL, WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, WE CAN
7:36:56PM ALLOCATE THAT HOWEVER WE WANT.
7:36:57PM THERE IS LIMIT AND TIME AS TO HOW MUCH WE CAN DELIVER, BUT
7:37:00PM THAT MONEY IS TRANSFORMATIONAL.
7:37:01PM IT'S WAY MORE THAN A TAX INCREASE IN THE SHORT RUN.
7:37:10PM EVEN WITH A TAX INCREASE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PUT A DENT IN
7:37:13PM THE 50,000 DEMAND AND 50,000 NEED.
7:37:15PM WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO.
7:37:16PM IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO PUT IT IN HOUSING, WE CAN PUT IT
7:37:19PM IN ROAD REPAIR OR PARKS, BUT THERE IS 300 AND SOMETHING
7:37:22PM MILLION SITTING THERE THAT WE CAN USE FOR SOMETHING BETTER.
7:37:25PM THANK YOU.
7:37:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
7:37:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS GOING TO FORCE ME TO
7:37:31PM SPEAK ABOUT DOWNTOWN.
7:37:32PM SUNSETTING DOWNTOWN CRAs.
7:37:34PM WHEN YOU SAY THERE'S NO SLUM AND BLIGHT IN DOWNTOWN,
7:37:37PM DOWNTOWN IS REALLY NICE, BUT WE DID PURCHASE THE ARMY NAVY
7:37:42PM STORE.
7:37:42PM AND THE ARMY NAVY STORE IS A WONDERFUL PLOT OF LAND ON TAMPA
7:37:46PM STREET THAT THE CRA PURCHASED AND CAN YOU IMAGINE AFFORDABLE
7:37:51PM HOUSING DOWNTOWN FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT WHO WORK DOWN HERE.
7:37:57PM I WOULDN'T BE SO FAST TO SUNSET THE CRA IN DOWNTOWN BECAUSE
7:38:00PM THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY.
7:38:02PM YES, IT LOOKS GREAT, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME OPPORTUNITY
7:38:04PM THERE.
7:38:05PM AND I DON'T WANT US TO JUST BE SO FAST IN SAYING THAT
7:38:08PM BECAUSE WE'VE DONE A REALLY GREAT JOB DEVELOPING DOWNTOWN.
7:38:11PM BUT WE'LL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, OF COURSE, ON THURSDAY.
7:38:18PM I'LL JUST STOP THERE.
7:38:21PM I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT HOUSING, I COULD GET
7:38:23PM LONG-WINDED ABOUT THAT.
7:38:24PM WE DEFINITELY -- WE CONTRIBUTE TO THE HOUSING CRISIS.
7:38:30PM THAT'S WHAT THE CITY DOES.
7:38:32PM WE DON'T SOLVE ALL THE PROBLEMS.
7:38:33PM AND THERE ARE A LOT OF LETTERS AND E-MAILS THAT I READ WHERE
7:38:37PM THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT CARE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE IN THEIR
7:38:41PM HOUSING.
7:38:41PM THEY ARE CARING ABOUT THE TAX BASE ON THEIR PARTICULAR HOME.
7:38:47PM IT'S DIFFICULT TO ASK PEOPLE FOR MORE MONEY.
7:38:51PM BECAUSE WE'RE ALL BEING ASKED TO DO MORE.
7:38:54PM BUT TO WHOM MUCH IS GIVEN MUCH IS REQUIRED.
7:38:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
7:38:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAVE TO REMIND PEOPLE WHEN WE'RE
7:39:05PM TALKING ABOUT CRA DOLLARS AND GIVING THEM UP, WE DON'T KEEP
7:39:08PM ALL THAT MONEY.
7:39:08PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY GETS A GOOD PORTION OF THAT.
7:39:10PM SO I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN HOW WE -- BECAUSE HILLSBOROUGH
7:39:13PM COUNTY HAS AGREED TO LET US KEEP THAT MONEY.
7:39:16PM SO ONCE WE GIVE THAT UP, WE'RE GIVING A GOOD PORTION BACK TO
7:39:19PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT WE'LL NEVER SEE.
7:39:21PM SO I AM MUCH MORE IN FAVOR OF LEVERAGING ELSEWHERE, PUSHING
7:39:26PM THE MONEY OUTSIDE OF SPENDING IN THOSE AREAS AND SPENDING IT
7:39:29PM ELSEWHERE.
7:39:30PM BUT ONCE WE GIVE THAT MONEY UP, THAT, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING
7:39:35PM ABOUT TRULY OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, IT'S STILL TECHNICALLY
7:39:39PM OURS.
7:39:40PM REALLY, IT'S COUNTY STUFF.
7:39:41PM AND WE ARE BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT FOR IMPROVING OUR
7:39:46PM AREAS.
7:39:47PM I ABSOLUTELY DISAGREE.
7:39:48PM I THINK HOUSING BELONGS IN EVERY SINGLE SECTION OF THIS
7:39:51PM CITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW PEOPLE WORK.
7:39:56PM SORRY, THIS IS A GOOD CONVERSATION FOR THURSDAY.
7:40:00PM I JUST COULDN'T SAY NO.
7:40:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOUR REBUTTAL.
7:40:03PM [ LAUGHTER ]
7:40:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY REAL FAST, I SUPPORT AND
7:40:07PM VOTED FOR THE ARMY NAVY PROJECT BUT THAT IS NOT GOING TO
7:40:10PM TAKE $300 MILLION, SO WE CAN PUT THAT MONEY IN.
7:40:13PM IN THEORY I AGREE WITH PUTTING HOUSING -- AFFORDABLE HOUSING
7:40:16PM IN DOWNTOWN, BUT IF WE HAD $300 MILLION IN SOME OTHER PART
7:40:20PM OF THE CITY, I ASKED A GROUP THE OTHER DAY, ABOUT 25 MILLION
7:40:22PM A YEAR GENERATED BY DOWNTOWN IN CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA, AND
7:40:25PM SOMEBODY WAS PROPOSING, I THINK SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE
7:40:29PM ACTUALLY WAS PROPOSING A CRA IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
7:40:32PM I ASKED THE CROWD, HOW MANY OF YOU THINK THAT 25 MILLION IS
7:40:35PM BETTER SPENT IN DOWNTOWN THAN SULPHUR SPRINGS AND NOBODY
7:40:40PM RAISED THEIR HAND.
7:40:41PM IT IS ABOUT SETTING PRIORITIES.
7:40:42PM IN TERMS OF THE COUNTY MATCH, IT DOESN'T EXIST IN THE
7:40:44PM DOWNTOWN CRA.
7:40:45PM ONLY IN -- THE STAFF IS GOING TO GIVE US A GRADUATED SCALE.
7:40:52PM MORRIS AND DENNIS HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT FOR US.
7:40:54PM BUT THERE IS A STEP-DOWN.
7:40:55PM IT'S NOT ONE FOR ONE AS YOU GET THROUGH SEVERAL YEARS, BUT
7:40:58PM IN DOWNTOWN, A FEW YEARS AGO, THE COUNTY OPTED OUT EXCEPT
7:41:02PM FOR THE SPB PROJECT, BUT THAT IS THE ONLY ONE GETTING COUNTY
7:41:06PM MATCH.
7:41:06PM THE REST OF THEM ARE NOT.
7:41:08PM AND EVEN IN CHANNEL DISTRICT WHERE THERE IS A COUNTY MATCH,
7:41:11PM WE COULD DO AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO RETAIN IF WE WANTED
7:41:15PM TO.
7:41:15PM BUT IN DOWNTOWN, THERE IS NO MATCH, SO IT DOESN'T MAKE
7:41:18PM SENSE.
7:41:18PM THE QUESTION IS, WHERE COULD THE MONEY BE BETTER SPENT?
7:41:21PM COULD WE SPEND IT AND CREATE TEN TIMES MORE AFFORDABLE
7:41:23PM HOUSING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY OR COULD WE DO IT LESS IN
7:41:26PM DOWNTOWN?
7:41:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
7:41:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
7:41:30PM SO ON THE ISSUE, WE'RE MISSING A MAJOR COMPONENT TO HOUSING,
7:41:33PM AND I THINK EVERY TIME WE TALK WITH SOMEBODY, IT'S HOUSING
7:41:37PM AND TRANSPORTATION.
7:41:38PM THEY GO HAND IN HAND.
7:41:39PM SO FOLKS, COST OF HOUSING AND COST OF TRANSPORTATION ARE
7:41:44PM BASIC NEEDS.
7:41:45PM I THINK THAT IS AN OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE WITHIN THE CRA, WE
7:41:47PM CAN USE THOSE AS CATALYSTS TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION.
7:41:51PM SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T OVERLOOK AND CAN'T
7:41:54PM OVERLOOK IN THIS DISCUSSION AS WE PURSUE THIS BUDGET AND THE
7:41:58PM FOLLOWING YEARS' BUDGETS.
7:41:59PM THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
7:42:00PM THERE'S REVENUE THERE THAT WE CAN TAP INTO TO CREATE
7:42:05PM CIRCULATORS AND GET PEOPLE TO THE WORKPLACE FROM WHERE THEY
7:42:08PM LIVE AND WORK IN MORE AFFORDABLE AREAS.
7:42:10PM AGAIN, AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS, YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT HOUSING
7:42:13PM IN A VACUUM.
7:42:14PM IT HAS TO GO ALONG WITH TRANSPORTATION.
7:42:16PM THANK YOU.
7:42:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT.
7:42:19PM YOU'LL CLOSE IT OUT.
7:42:20PM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO SPEAK FIRST AFTER.
7:42:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S AT THE END.
7:42:29PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
7:42:44PM >>JOHN BENNETT: AGAIN, THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR SHARING OUR
7:42:47PM PRIORITIES TOGETHER THAT WE WORKED WITH YOU, ESPECIALLY OVER
7:42:49PM THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
7:42:51PM WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR THE LAST 120
7:42:54PM DAYS OR SO, A LOT OF THINGS WERE FOCUSED ON GAPS IN GROWTH.
7:42:59PM WHERE WERE THE GAPS.
7:43:00PM YOU HEARD PUBLIC SAFETY TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE GAPS IN
7:43:02PM EITHER EQUIPMENT OR FACILITIES, AND THEN WE'RE MANAGING
7:43:05PM GROWTH TOGETHER.
7:43:06PM SO A LITTLE POSTSCRIPT TO THE HOUSING SIDE.
7:43:11PM MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE SUPPORTED, COUNCIL HAS
7:43:13PM SUPPORTED OUR RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS IN ADDITION TO
7:43:18PM HOUSING.
7:43:19PM I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE METHODOLOGIES THAT WE'RE WORKING
7:43:21PM WITH, WITH OUR PARTNERS, HAVE REALLY DONE A GREAT JOB.
7:43:25PM MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT I TRY AND HAVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
7:43:30PM ALMOST EVERY SINGLE MORNING IN THE EARLY HOURS DOWNTOWN.
7:43:32PM AND WHEN I TALK TO FOLKS, THEY HAD BEEN DISPLACED WITHIN
7:43:35PM THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS OF TAMPA.
7:43:37PM SO THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GETTING THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY
7:43:39PM TO GET BACK IN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE AND GO THROUGH THAT
7:43:43PM PROCESS AND GET BACK INTO SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN AFFORD AND
7:43:48PM YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT HAS HELPED.
7:43:50PM SO THAT IS A PIECE OF THE HOUSING PUZZLE.
7:43:53PM I CAN TELL YOU EVERY QUARTER, EVERY 90 DAYS, I ASK FOR A
7:43:56PM REPORT FROM THE POLICE AND FIRE ABOUT THE PRESSURE ON
7:43:58PM EMERGENCY SERVICES AS IT RELATES TO HOMELESS.
7:44:01PM JUST THIS YEAR, EVEN WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE, AND WE
7:44:03PM HAVE MORE BEDS COMING, AGAIN, FOR TAMPA, FOLKS THAT HAVE
7:44:07PM BEEN IN THE CONTINUUM OF CARE HAS GONE UP 33% FROM 1500
7:44:12PM CALLS EVERY 90 DAYS TO 2,000 CALLS EVERY 90 DAYS, AND THAT'S
7:44:16PM WITH THE RESOURCES.
7:44:17PM SO WE ARE TRYING TO CARE.
7:44:20PM I'LL TELL YA, THERE IS A LOT OF REUNIFICATION WHERE PEOPLE
7:44:22PM SHOW UP FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE
7:44:26PM PARTNERS WE HAVE GET THEM PLACED BACK EVEN IF IT'S IN A
7:44:28PM DIFFERENT COMMUNITY WITH THEIR LOVED ONES.
7:44:32PM IT'S WORKING ON THE STREET EVERY DAY, BUT THAT IS A
7:44:34PM COMPONENT OF THE HOUSING.
7:44:35PM AND THEN MY LAST POINT, TO COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN'S POINT,
7:44:38PM THERE IS A REASON THAT WE USE ROADS TO INTERSECT THESE
7:44:40PM FUNCTIONS THAT ARE ON THE SLIDE.
7:44:42PM IT'S BECAUSE THE NEXUS OF EVERYTHING YOU DO, HOUSING, PARKS
7:44:46PM AND REC, AND, OF COURSE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECTS ARE ALL
7:44:51PM TIED TOGETHER, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TOES SUPPORT THAT AS
7:44:54PM NICOLE MENTIONED IN A HOLISTIC WAY AND YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT
7:45:00PM JOB SUPPORTING ALL THE PRIORITIES AND WE'RE LOOKING TO CLOSE
7:45:02PM THE GAPS AND MANAGE GROWTH INTO THE FUTURE.
7:45:04PM STAFF STANDS READY FOR AS LONG AS YOU WANT TO ANSWER
7:45:07PM QUESTIONS AND ALSO BRING BACK MORE ANALYSIS AS NEEDED
7:45:10PM BETWEEN NOW AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
7:45:12PM SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR SUPPORT OF OUR
7:45:15PM PRESENTATIONS.
7:45:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
7:45:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
7:45:18PM AND I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY AND STAFF FOR ALL YOUR ALL'S
7:45:23PM WORK AND HELP AND WHATNOT.
7:45:24PM I KNOW YOU-ALL HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME PREPARING FOR TODAY
7:45:27PM AND PROBABLY FIVE MORE TIMES TAKING QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE
7:45:30PM LIKE ME AND ALL OF US.
7:45:32PM I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
7:45:33PM YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS -- AGAIN, EVERYBODY IS THE
7:45:37PM MASTER OF THEIR OWN SHIP.
7:45:39PM I DIDN'T ASK QUESTIONS DURING THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE I
7:45:41PM THINK WE ALL SUPPORT THE SPENDING PROPOSALS.
7:45:43PM WE'VE WORKED HARD ON THIS, ALL OF US WHILE WE WERE ON
7:45:46PM COUNCIL, WHILE WE HAVE BEEN ON THIS COUNCIL, AND WE ALL
7:45:49PM SUPPORT THIS.
7:45:50PM THE ISSUE IS, ARE WE GOING TO RAISE TAXES 16% TO FUND ALL OF
7:45:54PM THIS?
7:45:54PM THAT IS THE REAL DISPOSITIVE ISSUE HERE.
7:45:57PM THIS IS ALL SPENDING THAT I THINK WE ALL SUPPORT.
7:46:00PM MY OPINION, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, I DO SUPPORT SOME LEVEL
7:46:05PM OF A MILLAGE INCREASE FOR CERTAIN NEEDS THAT CAN HELP FUND
7:46:09PM OTHER NEEDS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE TODAY.
7:46:12PM BUT A 16% MILLAGE INCREASE IN A TIME OF 7.5% INFLATION IN
7:46:19PM THE TAMPA AREA, DOUBLE PROPERTY PREMIUMS AND RATES, PROPERTY
7:46:24PM INSURANCE IS JUST TOO MUCH FOR ME.
7:46:26PM LIKE I'VE TOLD THE ADMINISTRATION IN PRIVATE CONVERSATION, I
7:46:29PM SAID THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES, THIS TAX INCREASE, WHEN YOU
7:46:32PM LOOK AT ALL THE SPENDING THAT IT SEEKS TO DO ALL AT ONCE
7:46:36PM SAYS YES TO EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE AND IT SAYS NO TO VERY
7:46:40PM LITTLE TO NOTHING AND WHAT YOU'RE LEFT WITH A MILLAGE RATE
7:46:43PM THAT IS AS HIGH AS SOUTH FLORIDA AREAS.
7:46:45PM THAT IS A LOT FOR US TO CONSIDER.
7:46:48PM NOTHING IS BLACK AND WHITE.
7:46:49PM THERE'S GRAY IN EVERYTHING, LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE, AND THESE
7:46:52PM ARE GREAT THINGS THAT WE ALL SUPPORT, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE
7:46:55PM THE WISDOM, ET CETERA, TO DO SCRUTINY IN ALL THESE.
7:46:59PM AND I THINK THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT.
7:47:01PM I SUPPORT A MORE NARROWLY TAILORED MILLAGE INCREASE THAT
7:47:06PM HELPS US TAKE CARE OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CRISES.
7:47:10PM I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A GROWING CRISIS IN PUBLIC SAFETY
7:47:12PM THAT'S ONLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET WORSE AND ADDRESSES
7:47:17PM TRANSPORTATION CHALLENGES AND THAT ENABLES US TO MAKE
7:47:19PM IMMEDIATE INVESTMENTS IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LIKE WE'VE
7:47:22PM TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
7:47:23PM WE CAN DO EVERYTHING, BUT IN A MORE REASONABLE WAY THAT
7:47:27PM DOESN'T ASK THE PUBLIC AND INFLATION LIKE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW
7:47:31PM FOR 16% HIGHER TAXES ALL AT ONCE.
7:47:34PM I THINK THAT PUTS US IN A VERY, VERY BAD POSITION, GIVEN THE
7:47:37PM FACT THAT WE ALL SUPPORT THAT.
7:47:38PM THE PUBLIC SUPPORTS HAVING MORE FIRE STATIONS.
7:47:41PM THIS BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR DOESN'T INCLUDE A SINGLE FIRE
7:47:46PM STATION, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NOT EVEN DESIGN FOR A
7:47:51PM NEW FIRE STATION.
7:47:52PM LIKE MR. STOCCO HAS INDICATED, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY
7:47:55PM MASTER PLAN FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THAT HAD A PROPOSAL FOR
7:48:00PM 28 NEW FIRE STATIONS IN THE COUNTY.
7:48:02PM WE DON'T SEE THAT HERE PARTLY BECAUSE I RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST
7:48:06PM WE DON'T HAVE A REAL PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN HERE.
7:48:09PM THAT'S FOR ANOTHER TIME.
7:48:11PM WE ALL SUPPORT THAT.
7:48:12PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BUDGET MAKE FORWARD MOVEMENTS IN
7:48:15PM HAVING ADVANCEMENTS IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA FOR A FIRE STATION IN
7:48:18PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
7:48:19PM WE HAD ONE FIRE STATION IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA 20 YEARS AGO
7:48:23PM BEFORE ALL THIS GROWTH.
7:48:24PM WE GOT THE SAME ONE HERE NOW 20 YEARS LATER.
7:48:27PM AND THEN FOR THE NEWER NORTH TAMPA AREA, WHETHER IT'S
7:48:31PM DESIGN, WHETHER IT'S BEGINNING ON CONSTRUCTION FUNDING,
7:48:33PM AGAIN, WILLING TO BE REASONABLE ON THAT, BUT WE NEED TO SEE
7:48:36PM GAINS THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING TO ASK THE PUBLIC
7:48:38PM FOR MORE MONEY OUT OF THEIR WALLETS.
7:48:41PM THE PUBLIC SUPPORTS BETTER RESPONSE TIMES FOR FIRE AND FOR
7:48:44PM POLICE AND HIRING THE OVER TWO DOZEN, 30 POLICE OFFICERS,
7:48:48PM REALLY, REALLY GOOD STUFF.
7:48:49PM THE PUBLIC SUPPORTS INVESTMENTS IN TRANSPORTATION.
7:48:52PM I THINK ALL OF US HERE ON THIS DAIS SUPPORTED ALL FOR
7:48:56PM TRANSPORTATION IN 2018.
7:48:58PM I ENDORSED IT.
7:48:59PM I SUPPORTED HIGHER TAXES FOR TRANSPORTATION.
7:49:02PM THE CITY OF TAMPA VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY TO SAY, YES, I WANT
7:49:06PM TO PAY MORE IN TAXES FOR TRANSPORTATION.
7:49:08PM THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
7:49:11PM WE ALSO SUPPORT AS A CITY I BELIEVE IN 2022 OVERWHELMINGLY,
7:49:15PM AND THAT WAS MUDDIED UP BECAUSE OF COURT ISSUES, ET CETERA.
7:49:19PM WE NEED TO MAKE THESE CONCERTED INVESTMENTS IN THESE TWO
7:49:23PM AREAS.
7:49:24PM RIGHT NOW, 21% OF THIS MILLAGE INCREASE GOES TO PUBLIC
7:49:29PM SAFETY.
7:49:30PM I THINK THAT'S WAY TOO LITTLE WHEN YOU'RE ASKING PEOPLE FOR
7:49:33PM MORE MONEY.
7:49:34PM SO MY VIEW IS, MEND IT, DON'T END IT, WHICH IS TO SAY LET'S
7:49:38PM HAVE A MILLAGE INCREASE.
7:49:40PM LET'S GEAR IT TOWARDS CERTAIN AREAS AND ENABLE US, BY THE
7:49:43PM WAY, TO INVEST IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING LIKE I'LL TALK ABOUT,
7:49:46PM BUT DO IT IN A MORE REASONABLE MANNER THAT ACKNOWLEDGES THE
7:49:50PM ECONOMIC REALITIES OF FOLKS IN TAMPA TODAY.
7:49:54PM AGAIN, THERE IS A BALANCE FOR THAT.
7:49:56PM I'M WILLING TO MEET FOLKS HALFWAY IN THAT REGARD.
7:49:59PM BY PASSING A MILLAGE HALF AS MUCH HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY THE
7:50:02PM ADMINISTRATION, WE COULD ENABLE OUR CRAs TO HAVE $4
7:50:05PM MILLION ROUGHLY IN FUNDS SUBSTANTIALLY USED FOR AFFORDABLE
7:50:11PM HOUSING.
7:50:12PM ALSO USE ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT AGAIN,
7:50:15PM BY LOOKING AT A REDUCED MILLAGE RATE, YOU DON'T ABANDON
7:50:18PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT ALL.
7:50:19PM FOR PARKS, I SAID BEFORE RESPECTFULLY, THIS IS A BODY OF 7.
7:50:25PM WE CAN COME UP WITH NEGOTIATIONS ON THIS.
7:50:27PM I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE YEAR FOR HIGHER TAXES IN PARKS,
7:50:31PM NOT IN THIS BUDGET.
7:50:31PM THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE I HAVE WITH THIS IS FOR FIRE STATIONS.
7:50:35PM THAT'S REALLY, REALLY BIG.
7:50:37PM I SENT TO THE ADMINISTRATION SOME DOCUMENTS THAT WE FOUND
7:50:40PM FROM LAST YEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT SHOWS PRIOR COMMITMENTS
7:50:44PM MADE IN PRIOR YEARS FOR FIRE STATIONS.
7:50:47PM HERE IS DISTRICT 7 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FROM LAST
7:50:51PM YEAR IN THE BUDGET.
7:50:52PM IT INCLUDES FIRE STATION 24.
7:50:55PM HERE IS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR FISCAL YEAR '22 TO
7:51:00PM FISCAL YEAR '26.
7:51:01PM IT INCLUDED FOR FISCAL YEAR '22, $650,000 FOR FIRE STATION
7:51:06PM 24 AND K-BAR RANCH, ALMOST $12 MILLION FOR THAT ENDEAVOR THE
7:51:12PM FOLLOWING YEAR IN 2023.
7:51:13PM THAT WAS PROMISED IN PRIOR BUDGETS THROUGH ADMINISTRATION
7:51:19PM PRESENTATIONS, RIGHT, AND IT'S NOT HERE TODAY, YET WE'RE
7:51:22PM BEING ASKED TO PAY MORE IN TAXES.
7:51:24PM CALL ME A LITTLE OFF, BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
7:51:27PM I THINK WE NEED TO SEE GAINS ON THAT.
7:51:29PM I WILL BE MAKING A MOTION -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN MAKE
7:51:33PM MOTIONS TODAY, BUT ON A REQUEST TO HAVE MOVEMENT FORWARD ON
7:51:37PM FIRE STATIONS IN THIS BUDGET.
7:51:39PM PUBLIC SAFETY IS ISSUE NUMBER ONE.
7:51:41PM WE HAVE PARTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHERE WE HAVE RESPONSE
7:51:46PM TIMES CHALLENGES, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE
7:51:49PM OF THAT, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE ASKING THE PUBLIC IN 7.3% TAMPA
7:51:54PM AREA INFLATION TO PAY MORE MONEY, I'M WILLING TO DO THAT TO
7:51:58PM A CERTAIN LEVEL, RIGHT?
7:51:59PM BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ELECTED DATA RIGHT THING, NOT TO GET
7:52:03PM REELECTED.
7:52:04PM I'M WILLING TO DO THAT, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT REASONABLY AND
7:52:07PM WE NEED TO HAVE FORWARD MOVEMENT ON FIRE STATIONS.
7:52:11PM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS -- IT'S BEEN CRITICAL TO
7:52:14PM ALL OF US.
7:52:15PM WE SUPPORT THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN, RIGHT, SO THAT WE
7:52:18PM CAN SEE WHAT ALL OF OUR NEEDS ARE.
7:52:20PM UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT AT THIS TIME, BUT THERE
7:52:23PM ARE CERTAIN THINGS, AS THE CHAIRMAN HAS SAID BEFORE, THAT
7:52:25PM YOU DON'T NEED A MASTER PLAN FOR.
7:52:27PM AND ONE OF THEM IS THE NEED FOR THESE STATIONS.
7:52:29PM WE NEED TO HAVE FORWARD MOVEMENT ON THAT.
7:52:31PM SO, AGAIN, I DIDN'T WANT TO GO THROUGH AFTER EACH ONE.
7:52:34PM I JUST WANTED TO HAVE IT AS A WHOLE, BECAUSE IF YOU BREAK IT
7:52:37PM DOWN ON THE MILLAGE, THAT'S KIND OF GOING TO TELL YOU WHERE
7:52:40PM WE'RE GOING TO GO ON THIS BODY.
7:52:42PM WE ALL SUPPORT ALL THE SPENDING IDEAS, ET CETERA.
7:52:45PM WE CAN DO THEM YEAR BY YEAR, BUT THERE IS A REASONABLE WAY
7:52:48PM FORWARD, WE CAN HAVE REAL FORWARD PROGRESS ON ALL OF THESE
7:52:52PM AREAS, RIGHT, BUT DOING IT IN A REASONABLE MANNER THAT DOES
7:52:55PM NOT RAISE TAXES BY 16% AND AT 7.5% INFLATION ECONOMY.
7:53:00PM THAT'S IT.
7:53:00PM THANK YOU, SIR.
7:53:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL GO TO THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, SO
7:53:03PM THE THOUGHTS ARE FRESH IN MY HEAD, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF
7:53:06PM WHAT YOU SAID AND YOU SAID IT VERY ELOQUENTLY.
7:53:09PM BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
7:53:12PM THE MILLAGE WAS RAISED SEVERAL YEARS AGO IN ANTICIPATION OF
7:53:15PM AN ADDITIONAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHICH DIDN'T GO THROUGH.
7:53:18PM WE SPENT OVER A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS ON THE HANNA
7:53:22PM PROJECT.
7:53:22PM WE SPENT MILLIONS ON A LOT OF OTHER PROJECTS WHILE WE KNEW
7:53:25PM WE HAD A HOUSING SITUATION, WHILE WE KNEW WE HAD DEFERRED
7:53:29PM MAINTENANCE ON, PA, PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES, AS COUNCILMAN
7:53:31PM VIERA TALKED, ABOUT THE FIRE STATION.
7:53:37PM THIS FULL MILL I THINK IS GOING TO BE SO IMPACTFUL
7:53:41PM NEGATIVELY TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HURT A LOT OF
7:53:44PM PEOPLE ALREADY HURTING, MEANING THOSE THAT CANNOT AFFORD
7:53:48PM HOUSING OR STRUGGLING OR THE MONEY THAT WE'VE INVESTED IN
7:53:50PM HELPING THOSE PEOPLE STAY IN THEIR HOMES OR MAKE UP THE COST
7:53:53PM OF THEIR DIFFERENCES IN RENTS WITH THEIR RENEWALS, I THINK
7:53:57PM IT'S GOING TO CANCEL IT OUT.
7:53:58PM I THINK THIS IS JUST TOO MUCH, ESPECIALLY WITH, AS I'VE
7:54:02PM ALREADY MENTIONED AND OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED, THE COST OF
7:54:04PM INSURANCE.
7:54:04PM THE COST OF FOOD AND GAS.
7:54:06PM THE COST OF -- I MEAN, I COULD GO ON AND ON.
7:54:11PM I THINK THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE SO QUICK BECAUSE ONCE YOU
7:54:17PM RAISE THE MILLAGE, IT'S GOING TO HURT PEOPLE'S POCKETBOOKS
7:54:21PM BEFORE WE BUILD THAT HOUSING BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE
7:54:23PM YEARS AWAY.
7:54:23PM I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT WANTS AND NEEDS AND ADDRESS WHAT
7:54:26PM IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL AS WAS ALREADY MENTIONED, 16% IS A
7:54:32PM BIG INCREASE ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE.
7:54:34PM THIS IS LIKE THE CHERRY ON TOP OF THE INFLATION OF THE
7:54:37PM INSURANCE.
7:54:39PM IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
7:54:40PM AND I KNOW I ASKED THIS IN A PRIVATE MEETING ABOUT WAGES.
7:54:44PM WELL, WAGES HAVE GONE UP, NOT FOR EVERYBODY.
7:54:47PM IT'S DIFFERENT.
7:54:48PM DIFFERENT ECONOMICS.
7:54:49PM THE POOR ARE STILL POOR.
7:54:50PM THE MIDDLE CLASS IS STRUGGLING.
7:54:52PM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT OF MONEY.
7:54:53PM AND CAN AFFORD THESE THINGS.
7:54:56PM BUT THE THING IS, IT'S A PERFECT STORM OF NEGATIVE FINANCIAL
7:55:02PM IMPACT ON A LOT OF PEOPLE.
7:55:04PM MY CAR INSURANCE IS UP $600 THIS YEAR.
7:55:07PM MY HOA ASSESSMENT, I GOT A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT, ADDITIONAL
7:55:10PM $300 A MONTH.
7:55:12PM THIS WILL IMPACT ME.
7:55:13PM CALCULATING TWO TO THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS BASED ON THE
7:55:17PM ASSESSED VALUE OF WHAT I HAVE.
7:55:19PM THAT'S ME.
7:55:19PM WHAT ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE IN HOUSES THAT ARE MORE EXPENSIVE OR
7:55:22PM LANDLORDS AND PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE GOING TO PASS THIS
7:55:26PM BURDEN ON TO THEIR TENANTS.
7:55:28PM PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE CLAUSES IN THEIR CONTRACTS THAT SAY WE'LL
7:55:34PM RAISE YOUR RENT A HUNDRED DOLLARS EVERY MONTH -- I'M SORRY,
7:55:36PM EACH YEAR, ONCE YOU RENEW IT, IT WILL BE AN EXTRA HUNDRED
7:55:40PM DOLLARS A MONTH.
7:55:40PM IT'S NOT LIKE THAT WITH EVERYBODY.
7:55:42PM IT COULD BE MORE.
7:55:42PM I KNOW PEOPLE THAT THEY DREAD RECEIVING THE RENEWAL NOTICE
7:55:49PM FOR THEIR APARTMENT.
7:55:50PM THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL BE AT $1800 OR 23 OR 24 HUNDRED
7:55:53PM DOLLARS.
7:55:54PM I'VE SEEN THAT.
7:55:54PM THEY ARE NOT MAKING THAT UP IN WAGES.
7:55:57PM THEY ARE WORKING HOURLY JOBS, GETTING PAID HOURLY AMOUNTS,
7:56:00PM AND THEY ARE EITHER NOT ABLE TO RENEW, NOT ABLE TO AFFORD OR
7:56:05PM THEY HAVE TO CUT BACK OR THEY HAVE CUT BACK SIGNIFICANTLY
7:56:08PM JUST TO PAY THE RENT.
7:56:09PM SO I HAVE CONCERNS.
7:56:10PM WE DIDN'T PASS A FULL MILL LAST TIME AND THAT WAS IN
7:56:14PM ANTICIPATION OF SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
7:56:19PM THANKFULLY WE HAD THAT EXTRA MONEY.
7:56:21PM AT THE SAME TIME NOW -- I'VE BEEN IN TAMPA MY WHOLE LIFE.
7:56:25PM MUCH OF MY LIFE, TAMPA WAS AFFORDABLE.
7:56:27PM A HOUSE IN WEST TAMPA, I REMEMBER FOR MANY WHAT YEARS,
7:56:30PM $110,000.
7:56:31PM $100,000.
7:56:33PM THOSE HOUSES ARE NOW $400,000 IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOODS.
7:56:36PM NOT ONLY THAT, INTEREST RATES ARE HIGH.
7:56:39PM IF I WERE TO QUALIFY, I'M GOING TO QUALIFY FOR AN EVEN
7:56:42PM HIGHER MORTGAGE PAYMENT AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE.
7:56:45PM AND THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE FACING.
7:56:47PM THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS.
7:56:48PM ASKING THE PUBLIC TO PAY MORE, YOU KNOW, FINE.
7:56:53PM BUT ONCE -- IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS BUDGET WITH THE FULL
7:56:58PM MILLAGE, IS THERE A GUARANTEE THAT THAT MONEY GOES TO WHERE
7:57:00PM IT NEEDS TO BE SPENT?
7:57:01PM COULD IT BE SHIFTED AROUND.
7:57:04PM IT'S NOT LIKE AN ENTERPRISE FUND WHERE YOU SAY PARKING
7:57:06PM ENTERPRISE, THE MONEY CAN ONLY BE SPENT HERE.
7:57:08PM THE MONEY CAN BE SHIFTED AROUND.
7:57:10PM WHAT IF A FUTURE MAYOR SAYS, WELL, WE HAD HUNDREDS OF
7:57:13PM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
7:57:14PM WE HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO DO WHATEVER FOR HOUSING, BUT
7:57:16PM I WANT TO BUILD THE $25 MILLION PARK.
7:57:19PM WHATEVER -- THERE IS THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT.
7:57:24PM IT WOULD HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL.
7:57:26PM THERE'S NO GUARANTEE.
7:57:27PM THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS HERE.
7:57:29PM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HURTING.
7:57:31PM I SEE IT.
7:57:32PM I HEAR IT FROM PEOPLE.
7:57:33PM WHETHER THEY ARE PAYING THE RENT, WHETHER THEY ARE TRYING TO
7:57:35PM PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE.
7:57:37PM AND WE'RE GOING TO BE PASSING -- WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPACTING
7:57:40PM PEOPLE AT THE LANDLORD LEVEL ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE RENTER.
7:57:44PM AND I DON'T WANT TO HURT ANYBODY.
7:57:45PM WE'RE NOT HERE FOR THAT.
7:57:46PM WE'RE HERE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS AND I THINK THIS IS JUST VERY
7:57:51PM AGGRESSIVE.
7:57:52PM AND WE EITHER TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO THE BUDGET, AS THE
7:57:55PM GENTLEMAN WHO SERVED ON THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD
7:57:59PM MENTIONED EARLIER, BUT THIS IS JUST -- I THINK IT'S GOING TO
7:58:03PM BE TOO IMPACTFUL.
7:58:04PM WHO IS NEXT?
7:58:05PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
7:58:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
7:58:07PM I AGREE.
7:58:09PM A MILL INCREASE IS A BIG DEAL.
7:58:11PM I HAVEN'T MADE MY MIND UP SOLIDLY, BUT HERE IS THE PROBLEM,
7:58:16PM THE LANDLORDS ARE GOING TO RAISE THE RENT ANYWAY.
7:58:18PM THEY ARE JUST GOING TO RAISE THE RENT.
7:58:19PM THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
7:58:20PM THAT'S WHAT LANDLORDS DO.
7:58:22PM AND THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE OUT AND HAVE NOWHERE TO GO.
7:58:25PM AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO IMMEDIATELY,
7:58:28PM BUT THEY ARE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO IN
7:58:31PM THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
7:58:33PM AND WHAT THIS MONEY CAN DO OR MONEY THAT WE FIND ELSEWHERE,
7:58:36PM WHAT NICOLE IS ASKING -- I'M SORRY, WHAT MS. TRAVIS IS
7:58:40PM ASKING IS TO TAKE THIS MONEY AND THEN BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE IT
7:58:45PM TO GET A BOND, TO ACTUALLY BUY THIS STUFF AND START.
7:58:49PM IF WE DON'T START, I MEAN, TALKING ABOUT PAST COUNCILS.
7:58:52PM PAST COUNCILS DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
7:58:54PM AND NOW THAT'S WHY WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
7:58:58PM SO I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF BENNETT.
7:59:01PM I ALREADY STARTED THIS.
7:59:04PM I'M GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE WHILE AND I APOLOGIZE.
7:59:07PM BUT THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET, LOOKING AT THIS, THE GENERAL
7:59:10PM FUND BUDGET IS $671 MILLION.
7:59:14PM IF I READ THE MATH RIGHT, 70%, 57 AND 0 GOES TOWARD
7:59:21PM PERSONNEL.
7:59:22PM THAT'S $471 MILLION OF SALARY AND BENEFITS, CORRECT?
7:59:29PM RETIREMENT, ALL OF THAT.
7:59:31PM SO REALLY THE ONLY THING WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN THE GENERAL
7:59:33PM FUND TO WORK WITH, IF THIS MILL IS PASSED, IS $200 MILLION.
7:59:37PM THAT IS IT.
7:59:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME?
7:59:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE WHOLE YEAR.
7:59:42PM SO WHEN WE INCREASE PERSONNEL COSTS 9% LAST YEAR, OUR STAFF
7:59:50PM NEEDED IT.
7:59:52PM INFLATION WENT UP.
7:59:55PM YOU WARNED US THAT THIS WAS A PERMANENT CHANGE.
7:59:59PM THE CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST.
8:00:03PM NOT THAT I DON'T THINK OUR STAFF DESERVES IT, BECAUSE THEY
8:00:08PM DO, AND HONESTLY, THEY ARE WOEFULLY UNDERPAID COMPARED TO
8:00:13PM WHAT THEY COULD PROBABLY GET IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
8:00:16PM BUT -- SO WHAT I'VE DONE IS I REALLY DID A DEEP DIVE INTO
8:00:23PM POSITIONS.
8:00:24PM AND SO I AM CURIOUS ABOUT QUITE A FEW OF THESE.
8:00:29PM WHEN I LOOK AT THE BUDGET, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT I BELIEVE
8:00:33PM CHIEF TRIPP SAID 27 -- 30.
8:00:38PM I THOUGHT 30 WAS POLICE.
8:00:40PM HERE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET, UNDER FTEs, UNDER
8:00:48PM POLICE, IT SAYS DURING FY 2023, INCREASE OF 4.25 FTEs.
8:00:54PM AS PART OF THE 2024 BUDGET, THE CITY RECOMMENDS AN
8:00:57PM ADDITIONAL TOTAL DECREASE OF TWO FTEs.
8:01:01PM SO FOR THE POLICE, IF YOU'RE TELLING US YOU'RE ACTUALLY
8:01:04PM HIRING 30 PEOPLE, BUT HERE IT SAYS WE'RE DECREASING BY TWO
8:01:07PM PEOPLE, I CAN'T FIGURE THAT MATH OUT.
8:01:09PM IT'S THE EXACT SAME FOR FIRE.
8:01:13PM IT'S THE EXACT SAME FOR OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AND I THINK UNTIL
8:01:16PM WE GET A HANDLE ON PERSONNEL AND WHO IS WHERE, WE REALLY
8:01:22PM CAN'T EVEN HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE THIS MONEY
8:01:24PM GOES BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE ACTUALLY ARE
8:01:27PM WORKING WITH.
8:01:28PM >>JOHN BENNETT: IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
8:01:30PM IT'S A GREAT POINT.
8:01:31PM WHEN I MENTIONED IN MY OPENING ABOUT THE TRANSPARENCY ON
8:01:35PM POSITIONS, THEY COME IN THREE CATEGORIES.
8:01:37PM THE FIRST CATEGORY IS RECLASSIFICATIONS THAT HAPPEN FOR
8:01:42PM WHATEVER THE REPURPOSING OF A POSITION MIGHT BE.
8:01:44PM THEN THERE COULD BE A REDUCTION, BECAUSE THAT FUNCTION IS NO
8:01:48PM LONGER NEEDED.
8:01:49PM AND, OF COURSE, THEN THERE COULD BE AN INCREASE AND ALL
8:01:52PM THOSE GO THROUGH.
8:01:53PM WE TALK ABOUT IN THE BUDGET VERSUS THE HR SPACE, THAT THE
8:01:56PM BUDGET SIDE IS THE POSITIONS AND HR IS THE PERSON, THE
8:02:00PM INDIVIDUAL.
8:02:00PM SO BETWEEN THOSE TWO, THEY TRY AND RECONCILE THROUGH THE
8:02:04PM BUDGET, WE HAVE TO PUT A POINT IN TIME COUNT IN THE BUDGET
8:02:08PM ITSELF SO WE CAN MAKE THESE KIND OF DECISIONS.
8:02:10PM AS THOSE POSITIONS CAN BE REPURPOSED, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I'LL
8:02:15PM USE PAL, FOR EXAMPLE, PARKS AND REC HAS BEEN COVERING PAL
8:02:18PM FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
8:02:20PM WHEN THE POLICE PUT IN THEIR BUDGET TO REPLACE THOSE
8:02:23PM POSITIONS TO GIVE PAL ITS BOOST, THEN THOSE POSITIONS IN
8:02:28PM PARKS CAN MOVE BACK TO PARKS.
8:02:30PM SO EVERYTHING HAS TO MOVE THROUGH THAT SYSTEM IN THEIR FTE
8:02:34PM COUNT.
8:02:34PM SO WHEN THEY BRING NEW POSITIONS FORWARD THIS YEAR, THAT NEW
8:02:38PM FUNCTIONALITY, WE HAVE TO JUXTAPOSE THAT AGAINST THE
8:02:40PM POSITIONS THAT HAVE GONE UNFILLED AND THAT NEED TO BE
8:02:44PM REPURPOSED.
8:02:45PM THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT DETAILED MATH INSIDE THE BUDGET.
8:02:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PAL IS A GREAT EXAMPLE, BECAUSE HERE IT SAYS
8:02:51PM AN INCREASE -- UNDER PARKS, AN INCREASE OF 8.5 FTEs FOR
8:02:56PM PAL.
8:02:56PM SO THAT'S NOT UNDER POLICE.
8:02:58PM IT'S UNDER PARKS, WHICH MS. WYNN SAID WILL HAVE 42 NEW
8:03:03PM EMPLOYEES, BUT THIS BUDGET SAYS -- THEY RECOMMEND AN
8:03:06PM ADDITIONAL DECREASE OF 16.5.
8:03:09PM AND I CANNOT DO THAT MATH.
8:03:12PM I'VE GOTTEN COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THEY DON'T
8:03:14PM UNDERSTAND IT.
8:03:15PM THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING HERE TALKING ABOUT PARKS.
8:03:18PM IS THERE A WAY TO ACTUALLY CLEARLY SHOW THIS?
8:03:23PM EVEN IF IT IS A LITTLE ASTERISK TO SAY, BECAUSE THIS MONEY
8:03:27PM MATTERS.
8:03:28PM 30 PEOPLE IS A TON OF MONEY.
8:03:31PM >>JOHN BENNETT: IT IS.
8:03:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY, I
8:03:35PM MEAN, WHAT DID I SAY IT WAS, OVER $400 MILLION TOWARD
8:03:39PM PERSONNEL AND BENEFITS.
8:03:41PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JUST REMEMBER, TOO, IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY
8:03:44PM SPACE, THERE ARE SWORN AND NON-SWORN POSITIONS.
8:03:47PM SO WHEN YOU SEE THAT IN THE FTE COUNT, IT COULD BE -- THEY
8:03:51PM ARE TYPICALLY NOT IN THE SWORN SPACE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO
8:03:54PM GROW THAT.
8:03:55PM IN THE NON-SWORN, SOMETIMES THINGS GET CENTRALIZED.
8:03:58PM FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETIMES THE DEPARTMENTS WILL HAVE ON-SITE
8:04:01PM FACILITY MAINTENANCE POSITIONS UNDER THEIR BUDGET AND THEN
8:04:05PM THEY MAY GET RECENTRALIZED BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING THE
8:04:08PM EFFICIENCY IN SAYING THAT IT SHOULD COME THROUGH A WORK
8:04:10PM ORDER IN A CENTRALIZED SITUATION.
8:04:12PM AND THAT'S ALL OF THAT FTE RIGOR THAT WE GO THROUGH OVER 120
8:04:16PM DAYS TO SAY, WHY AREN'T THESE POSITIONS BEING FILLED?
8:04:19PM IS THE JOB DESCRIPTION OFF?
8:04:22PM IS THE PAY BAND OFF?
8:04:24PM IS THE FUNCTION OFF?
8:04:25PM SO WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS BOTH SIDES OF THAT SITUATION IN THE
8:04:29PM BUDGET.
8:04:30PM IT WOULD PROBABLY BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUDGET OFFICE TO
8:04:33PM PUT THAT ASTERISK IN THE CONVERSATION, AND THEN, OF COURSE,
8:04:37PM BETWEEN NOW AND THE HEARING WE MAY BE ABLE TO DEMYSTIFY THAT
8:04:40PM A LITTLE BIT MORE.
8:04:41PM BUT IT REALLY IS A POINT-IN-TIME COUNT OF THE FTEs THAT
8:04:45PM HAVE BEEN VACANT AND NEED TO PROBABLY BE REPURPOSED OR
8:04:49PM REEVALUATED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST COMING IN
8:04:52PM ASKING FOR MORE BECAUSE THERE ARE POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN
8:04:55PM UNDERUTILIZED.
8:04:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
8:04:59PM HERE IN DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT, WE'RE TALKING
8:05:02PM ABOUT HAVING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FTEs REPLACING HOUSING
8:05:08PM COUNSELORS.
8:05:08PM I JUST ABSOLUTELY DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN DELETE ANYONE FROM
8:05:13PM DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT WHEN THE ABSOLUTE -- I
8:05:18PM MEAN YEAR-OVER-YEAR GROWTH IN THE AMOUNT OF PERMITS WE'RE
8:05:23PM GETTING, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP FROM US.
8:05:27PM HONESTLY, WHAT HOUSING HAS TAKEN OVER AND THE ABILITY TO
8:05:30PM HELP PEOPLE STAY IN THEIR HOMES, I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT SEE A
8:05:34PM WAY THAT WE CAN TASK OUR ALREADY OVERBURDENED PERSONNEL BY
8:05:40PM TAKING ON MORE RESPONSIBILITY AND TAKING THESE JOBS OUT.
8:05:51PM >> DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
8:05:55PM I CAME UP HERE, IF I MAY, TO ELABORATE ON SOME OF THE
8:05:55PM EXPLANATION THE CHIEF OF STAFF GAVE, PARTICULARLY REGARDING
8:05:58PM THE 30 FIREFIGHTER -- OR EXCUSE ME, FIRE RESCUE POSITIONS
8:06:00PM AND THE 30 POLICE POSITIONS.
8:06:02PM THEY ARE NOT IN THE BUDGET AND, OF COURSE, THE REASON FOR
8:06:05PM THAT IS BECAUSE THEY ARE POTENTIALLY GRANT FUNDED, SO WE
8:06:08PM WILL NOT PLACE THEM IN THE BUDGET UNTIL AND IF WE RECEIVE
8:06:12PM THE GRANT.
8:06:12PM THAT'S WHEN WE'LL COME TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A FINANCIAL
8:06:16PM RESOLUTION AND A CHANGE TO THE BUDGET ADDING THESE
8:06:18PM POSITIONS.
8:06:19PM THAT IS THE DISCONNECT, IF YOU WILL, BETWEEN THE
8:06:22PM PRESENTATIONS YOU'RE RECEIVING ABOUT THE 60 POSITIONS AND
8:06:26PM THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOT IN THE BUDGET.
8:06:28PM AND THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING ASSOCIATED GOING FORWARD WITH THE
8:06:32PM MILLAGE INCREASE, FOR EXAMPLE, IS TO PAY FOR THE MATCH
8:06:36PM ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE GRANTS.
8:06:38PM IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BOTH OF THOSE GRANTS HAVE ESCALATING
8:06:42PM COSTS TO THE LOCALITIES THAT ARE AWARDED THEM.
8:06:45PM I'M MAKING THIS UP, 25%, 50%, 75%, ET CETERA.
8:06:49PM SO IF WE RECEIVE THOSE GRANTS, AND WE'RE PRETTY CONFIDENT.
8:06:53PM WE DON'T HAVE THEM YET OR THEY WOULD BE IN THE BUDGET.
8:06:56PM IF WE RECEIVE THEM, WE'VE GOT TO IDENTIFY A FUTURE MECHANISM
8:06:59PM TO PAY FOR THE MATCH AMOUNTS EVENTUALLY ENDING UP WITH
8:07:03PM COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY ON THE CITY OF TAMPA.
8:07:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS WHERE ASTERISKS AND/OR
8:07:12PM FOOTNOTES ARE HELPFUL.
8:07:14PM I'M A BIG FOOTNOTE PERSON.
8:07:16PM PUTTING THAT IN THERE AND REALLY, BECAUSE, FOR US, I
8:07:21PM REMEMBER THE MAYOR VERY CLEARLY SAYING IN MY BUDGET PREP
8:07:24PM MEETING THAT REGARDLESS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE 30
8:07:28PM OFFICERS.
8:07:28PM SO IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT, WHETHER IS THAT MONEY GOING TO
8:07:30PM COME FROM?
8:07:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE FUNDING BASED ON, AGAIN
8:07:36PM THE ADOPTED BUDGET THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVES, WHETHER IT'S
8:07:38PM ONE MILL, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, WE'LL HAVE TO FIND MONEY TO
8:07:41PM DO JUST THAT BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO --
8:07:45PM WE'VE USED THE WORD BEFORE -- WE WON'T BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE
8:07:49PM THAT FUNDING FOR -- AND I LIKE THE WAY YOU PHRASED IT --
8:07:53PM GETTING SOME OF OUR MONEY BACK OR WHAT WE USED TO CALL OTHER
8:07:56PM PEOPLE'S MONEY.
8:07:57PM WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
8:07:57PM WE'LL HAVE TO BE FLEXIBLE.
8:07:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THAT IS MY FEAR WHEN WE'RE REALLY LOOKING
8:08:02PM AT ONLY HAVING $200 MILLION, I MEAN, I HAVE TO SAY, EVERY
8:08:08PM PERSONNEL PERSON, ESPECIALLY POLICE OFFICERS, ARE EXPENSIVE.
8:08:13PM WE PAY WELL FOR THE SERVICES WE GET, BUT A NEW OFFICER
8:08:19PM ESPECIALLY, WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING PAYROLL AND BENEFITS,
8:08:22PM WE'RE TALKING OUTFITTING THEM IN EVERYTHING THEY NEED.
8:08:25PM TRAINING, ALL OF THAT.
8:08:29PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I'M SORRY, MA'AM, IF I MAY, AGAIN, IN THE
8:08:31PM INTEREST OF FULL TRANSPARENCY, YOU MENTIONED THE 9.5%
8:08:39PM INCREASE THAT WAS MADE AVAILABLE AS A COST-OF-LIVING
8:08:39PM INCREASE TO ALL UNION EMPLOYEES AND MOST, BUT NOT ALL, OTHER
8:08:44PM EMPLOYEES, BUT THAT IS NOT THE ONLY INCREASE.
8:08:46PM THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF OTHER EMPLOYEES ALSO GET EITHER
8:08:49PM A STEP INCREASE IF YOU ARE POLICE OR FIRE OR A MERIT
8:08:52PM INCREASE.
8:08:53PM BOTH OF THOSE ARE BASED ON PERFORMANCE AND THREE, FOUR, FIVE
8:08:56PM PERCENT.
8:08:57PM SO IT'S NOT JUST THE COST-OF-LIVING INCREASE.
8:09:00PM AS YOU SAID, AND I THINK YOU MAKE A VERY GOOD POINT,
8:09:02PM PERSONNEL ARE THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF OUR EXPENSES,
8:09:05PM BECAUSE SERVICES DON'T HAPPEN WITHOUT PERSONNEL, BUT BOTH
8:09:08PM THE COST OF LIVING AND THE MERIT OR STEP ARE RECURRING
8:09:12PM EXPENSES.
8:09:13PM AND YOU ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THOSE IN PERPETUITY AS LONG AS
8:09:15PM THAT POSITION IS THERE.
8:09:17PM I JUST.
8:09:20PM YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT IN WHAT YOU SAID.
8:09:22PM NOT JUST THE COST OF LIVING INCREASE, IT IS ALSO MERIT AND
8:09:25PM STEP INCREASES ALONG WITH PENSION INCREASES, THINGS LIKE
8:09:27PM THAT.
8:09:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK I PROBABLY JUST NEED ANOTHER PERSONAL
8:09:34PM MEETING BECAUSE I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS.
8:09:36PM BUT REALLY, I AM ABSOLUTELY -- MY LAST MAIN QUESTION, AND
8:09:43PM I'LL STOP HERE, NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS HAS ABOUT
8:09:47PM 200 SOME ODD POSITIONS, AND FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, IT IS
8:09:52PM MOSTLY CODE ENFORCEMENT.
8:09:53PM IS THAT THE CASE?
8:09:56PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND, BUT IT'S -- A MAJOR
8:10:02PM AMOUNT IS IN CODE ENFORCEMENT.
8:10:03PM I CAN GET YOU A BREAKDOWN.
8:10:05PM IT IS IN THE BUDGET, I JUST DON'T KNOW IT OFF THE TOP OF MY
8:10:09PM HEAD.
8:10:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE IT.
8:10:15PM I HIGHLY RECOMMEND -- I THINK THAT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS
8:10:17PM ARE RIGHT.
8:10:18PM WE HAVE TO DO A DEEP DIVE AND PULL STUFF OUT.
8:10:21PM IF WE WANT TO DECREASE -- IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT
8:10:24PM DECREASING, THEN WE'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE
8:10:27PM CUTTING BECAUSE THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING IN HERE TO CUT,
8:10:30PM IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, BECAUSE THE
8:10:38PM PROBLEM IS, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WE DO WITH THE BUDGET.
8:10:41PM WE STILL OWE THOSE PEOPLE $470 MILLION.
8:10:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER ROGERO, SINCE
8:10:55PM YOU'RE UP THERE, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT EVEN IN TERMS OF IF WE
8:11:00PM DECIDED TO REDUCE THE MILLAGE, WHAT IS THE AVERAGE COST
8:11:06PM GOING TO BE FOR A HOUSEHOLD?
8:11:09PM I REMEMBER SEEING IN EAST TAMPA IT'S GOING TO BE ABOUT --
8:11:13PM BETWEEN SIX AND SEVEN DOLLARS PER MONTH, VERSUS THE AVERAGE
8:11:16PM HOUSEHOLD IS UNDER $20 A MONTH IN ADDITIONAL COSTS PER
8:11:22PM HOUSEHOLD.
8:11:22PM CAN YOU JUST EXPAND ON THAT A LITTLE BIT?
8:11:24PM IF WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO CUT SOMETHING AND, YOU
8:11:28PM KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE A $3 SAVINGS TO THE CONSUMER, IS IT
8:11:33PM REALLY WORTH IT?
8:11:34PM WHAT ARE WE GIVING UP IF IT'S ONLY GOING TO COST THE
8:11:37PM CONSUMER $3 AND ENDS UP BEING MILLIONS THAT WE'RE CUTTING
8:11:41PM FROM PROGRAMS THAT REALLY ARE ESSENTIAL.
8:11:43PM WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE NEEDED.
8:11:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CAN I HAVE THE ELMO UP PLEASE?
8:11:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I KNOW THE SLIDE CAME UP WHEN WE PRESENTED
8:12:04PM IT BEFORE.
8:12:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WOULD SOMEONE LET ME KNOW IF YOU SEE IT ON
8:12:10PM THE ELMO.
8:12:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE SCREEN WENT NEON GREEN.
8:12:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MINE, TOO.
8:12:14PM CAN'T BE A GOOD SIGN.
8:12:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IN MY MIND, I AM THINKING, NOT JUST
8:12:19PM BECAUSE I AM NEW ON COUNCIL, IF IT WERE JUST AN INDIVIDUAL
8:12:22PM DECISION FOR MYSELF AND THE SACRIFICE I'M MAKING, I'M MORE
8:12:28PM UPSET ABOUT MY INSURANCE INCREASING A THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR
8:12:31PM THE YEAR, CAR INSURANCE, BY THE WAY, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS.
8:12:34PM I ONLY DRIVE A MILE TO WORK.
8:12:36PM NEVERTHELESS, THE COST TO THE CONSUMER OR THE INDIVIDUAL
8:12:40PM HOMEOWNER THAT IMPACT, LET'S SAY GO FROM 1 MILL INCREASE AND
8:12:47PM DECREASE IT TO .8, AT LEAST WHAT I CALCULATED IS MAYBE A $3
8:12:53PM SAVINGS.
8:12:55PM I'M SORRY, YOU ALL.
8:12:56PM I HAVE A COLD SO I SOUND LIKE THIS.
8:12:58PM I JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I THINK IN SIMPLE TERMS,
8:13:01PM THAT ALSO CAN HELP THE CONSUMER, OUR CHAIRMAN SAID, YOU
8:13:04PM KNOW, I DON'T WANT FOR SOMEONE TO HAVE TO ABSORB THIS COST.
8:13:08PM WELL, IF THAT COST IS ONLY COSTING YOU $200 A YEAR FOR WHAT
8:13:12PM WE'RE ASKING OF OUR CITY, WHEN WE ALREADY SPENT, AS YOU SAID
8:13:17PM LAST PRESENTATION, WE SPEND 98% OF OUR BUDGET.
8:13:20PM DIDN'T YOU SAY THAT?
8:13:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
8:13:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND THAT'S WITHOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS
8:13:24PM THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
8:13:24PM BECAUSE THAT WAS A LOT OF THE WRITING IN A LOT -- I ACTUALLY
8:13:31PM -- E-MAILS FROM -- I ACTUALLY READ E-MAILS FROM EVERYONE.
8:13:36PM A LOT OF E-MAILS.
8:13:36PM IT'S LIKE A LOT OF HOMEWORK.
8:13:38PM NEVERTHELESS, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS.
8:13:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CAN YOU SEE IT ON THE ELMO?
8:13:44PM EXCELLENT.
8:13:46PM THANK YOU IN THE BACK THERE.
8:13:47PM I THINK THIS IS SPEAKING AT LEAST PARTIALLY TO YOUR
8:13:49PM QUESTION.
8:13:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS THE $19 ONE.
8:13:52PM THIS IS GOOD ENOUGH.
8:13:53PM EAST TAMPA, AVERAGE OF BETWEEN 6 AND 7 DOLLARS IN MONTHLY
8:13:57PM COST.
8:13:57PM THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER VALUE.
8:13:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
8:14:01PM THIS IS THE AVERAGE CITYWIDE ASSESSED VALUE.
8:14:07PM OVER TO THE FAR LEFT, LITTLE OVER 200,000 --
8:14:13PM A LITTLE OVER $280,000 IS THE AVERAGE ASSESSED VALUE
8:14:21PM CITYWIDE.
8:14:22PM TAKE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, THE TWO HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS
8:14:26PM OF $50,000, BECAUSE THAT ASSESSED VALUE QUALIFIES FOR BOTH
8:14:29PM HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS AND TO THE FAR RIGHT, YOU SEE THE
8:14:33PM PROPOSED MONTHLY ADJUSTMENT.
8:14:34PM AGAIN, JUST UNDER $20 AND TO THE IMMEDIATE LEFT OF THAT IS
8:14:38PM THE ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT OF A LITTLE OVER $231.
8:14:42PM AND THAT'S CITYWIDE.
8:14:44PM I'VE GOT EACH DISTRICT HERE WITH THEIR AVERAGE ASSESSED
8:14:47PM VALUES ALSO.
8:14:48PM AND ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES, IF YOU WILL, OF CONSIDERING ONE
8:14:59PM MILL SCENARIOS IS IT'S PRETTY EASILY SCALABLE, IF YOU GO TO
8:15:03PM HALF A MILL, WELL, IT'S HALF OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
8:15:05PM IF YOU GO TO .8, WELL, IT'S 20% OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE, WHICH
8:15:09PM I WON'T TRY TO DO IN MY HEAD.
8:15:12PM I'M MUCH BETTER WITH HALF.
8:15:14PM BUT I THINK YOU GET THE PICTURE
8:15:18PM IN TERMS OF HOW YOU CAN SCALE IT UP OR DOWN DEPENDING UPON
8:15:21PM THE PARTICULAR MILLAGE INCREASE.
8:15:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
8:15:29PM THIS IS THE AVERAGE ASSESSED VALUE OF A HOME IN THE CITY OF
8:15:31PM TAMPA.
8:15:32PM I KNOW HOMES ARE SELLING FOR MORE NOW, SO THAT IMPACT WOULD
8:15:34PM BE DIFFERENT FOR THE PERSON PAYING $400,000 FOR THEIR HOUSE.
8:15:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I'M SORRY.
8:15:41PM YOU HAD A FOLLOW-UP COMMENT I WANTED TO ADDRESS IN TERMS OF
8:15:48PM 98%.
8:15:49PM COUNCIL SAW THIS SLIDE EARLIER IN THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S
8:15:57PM PRESENTATION.
8:15:59PM THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR HISTORY OF GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS
8:16:06PM EXPENDITURES.
8:16:06PM AS YOU SAID, IN FISCAL YEAR '22, WE SPENT 98% OF THE GENERAL
8:16:11PM FUND DEPARTMENT BUDGET.
8:16:12PM IT RUNS THE GAMUT FROM 107% IN 2018 WHERE WE OVERSPENT,
8:16:17PM SLIGHTLY OVERSPENT IN 2019, AND THEN 98%, 97%, ET CETERA.
8:16:22PM FURTHER TO YOUR COMMENT AND FURTHER TO YOUR COMMENT YOU MADE
8:16:27PM A LITTLE WHILE AGO, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IN FACT, YOU HAD
8:16:31PM ASKED FOR THIS PARTICULAR INFORMATION AS PART OF THE BUDGET
8:16:35PM PROCESS.
8:16:35PM I WANT TO REITERATE AND PERHAPS I SAID IT BEFORE, AT THIS
8:16:41PM SCALE, YOU KNOW, THE 50th LARGEST CITY IN THE U.S. WITH
8:16:46PM NEARLY A $2 BILLION BUDGET, 97, 98 PERCENT, VARIANCES OF 3%
8:16:51PM OR LESS ARE BULL'S-EYE.
8:16:54PM BULL'S-EYE.
8:16:55PM WHEN YOU SEE IT RUNNING FOUR YEARS IN A ROW LIKE THAT, IT
8:16:59PM PROBABLY DOESN'T NEED TO BE SAID, BUT I'LL SAY IT, THAT'S NO
8:17:03PM ACCIDENT.
8:17:03PM THAT'S ACTIVE AND WELL THOUGHT OUT BUDGET PLANNING AND THEN
8:17:07PM GOOD ACTIVE RESOURCE MANAGEMENT AS THE YEARS PROGRESS.
8:17:12PM YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY IT BEFORE.
8:17:13PM YOU HEARD THE CHIEF OF STAFF SAY IT BEFORE, TOLERANCES ARE
8:17:17PM TIGHT AND YOU SEE THAT HERE.
8:17:18PM REGARDLESS OF AND FURTHER TO YOUR COMMENT, EARLIER COMMENT,
8:17:25PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WHERE WOULD YOU CUT?
8:17:28PM WHERE WOULD ONE CUT TO RAISE A RESOURCE HERE?
8:17:33PM BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOWER IT.
8:17:35PM IT'S PRETTY MUCH ZERO SUM AT THESE LEVELS.
8:17:38PM I MEAN, THIS IS ON TARGET.
8:17:40PM AS WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, AS WE GO THROUGH THE
8:17:43PM BUDGET PROCESS EVERY YEAR, THE MAYOR PRESENTS HER BUDGET, AS
8:17:46PM YOU KNOW.
8:17:47PM THEN IT BECOMES CITY COUNCIL'S BUDGET.
8:17:49PM CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THE BUDGET, PRESUMABLY BASED ON
8:17:53PM COUNCIL'S PRIORITIES AND THE PRIORITIES THAT THEY HAVE HEARD
8:17:56PM FROM THE PUBLIC.
8:17:57PM WE CAN ONLY SPEND WHAT IS APPROPRIATED, WHAT CITY COUNCIL
8:18:03PM HAS APPROVED.
8:18:05PM SO TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, WE ARE SPENDING
8:18:09PM EVERYTHING THAT CITY COUNCIL WANTS US TO SPEND EVERY YEAR.
8:18:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH.
8:18:16PM AND ALSO THE OTHER POINT -- AND I WANT TO SAY THIS JUST FOR
8:18:18PM THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, IN MY PRIVATE MEETING WITH YOU AND CHIEF
8:18:22PM BENNETT, THE ONE THING THAT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO ME IS
8:18:26PM YOUR CONCERN FOR OUR GREATEST RESOURCE, OUR HUMAN CAPITAL,
8:18:30PM WHICH IS OUR EMPLOYEES.
8:18:31PM THAT'S NOT JUST POLICE OFFICERS AND FIRE RESCUE.
8:18:34PM THAT'S EVERYONE WHO MAKES THE CITY FUNCTION, AND THEY
8:18:38PM LITERALLY CONSIDER THE COST OF LIVING AND THE MERIT BASED
8:18:42PM PAY.
8:18:43PM AND THE INCREASE, 9.5%.
8:18:45PM TEACHERS DON'T GET THAT.
8:18:47PM WE DON'T GET THAT.
8:18:47PM WE DON'T GET RAISES.
8:18:49PM WE MAY GET A $500 BONUS.
8:18:53PM SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FIGHT FOR THE HUMAN CAPITAL PIECE
8:18:55PM BECAUSE YOU GOT TO ASK YOURSELF, WELL, WHAT ARE YOU GIVING
8:18:59PM UP?
8:18:59PM HOW ABOUT HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED THIS?
8:19:00PM HOW ABOUT NOBODY IN THE CITY GETS A RAISE FOR TWO YEARS?
8:19:05PM BECAUSE THAT HAPPENS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
8:19:06PM TWO OR THREE YEARS, LET'S JUST GO WITHOUT RAISES.
8:19:09PM THE SACRIFICE CAN BE GREAT.
8:19:10PM WHO IS WILLING TO MAKE IT IS THE QUESTION IN TERMS OF
8:19:13PM DEFERRED NEED.
8:19:14PM AND ONE OF MY GREATEST FEARS, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
8:19:18PM CUTTING BUDGETS -- AND I'M GOING TO SHUT UP AFTER THIS -- OF
8:19:20PM COURSE, THE EASIEST THING TO COME AFTER IS PARKS.
8:19:22PM GUESS WHAT PARK IT WILL HAPPEN TO.
8:19:25PM IT WILL BE FAIR OAKS.
8:19:27PM THEN I WILL BE IN HERE GOING CRAZY BECAUSE IT IS IN MY
8:19:31PM DISTRICT, AND IT IS A PART THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN WAITING
8:19:33PM FOR FOR YEARS.
8:19:34PM OH, WELL, YOU DON'T NEED A PARK RIGHT NOW.
8:19:36PM SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN AND THE LEVEL
8:19:40PM OF SACRIFICE.
8:19:41PM IF IT IS A $3 SACRIFICE OR A $20 SACRIFICE FOR A FAMILY OVER
8:19:45PM THIS MILLAGE, I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ACTUALLY
8:19:49PM COULD CONSIDER, BECAUSE SALARIES IS OUR BIGGEST EXPENSE.
8:19:54PM IS ANYBODY WILLING TO GIVE THAT UP IN THE CITY?
8:19:56PM BECAUSE EVERYTHING GOES UP FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES AS WELL OR
8:20:00PM WHATEVER.
8:20:00PM BUT WE HAVE DONE THAT.
8:20:03PM TIME AND TIME AGAIN, YOU CAN CHECK IT.
8:20:06PM I CAN SHOW IT TO YOU.
8:20:07PM TEACHERS DO NOT GET RAISES YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
8:20:10PM BUT THE VERY FIRST MEETING THAT I HAD WITH DENNIS ROGERO AND
8:20:13PM CHIEF BENNETT IS THAT THAT IS THE PRIORITY IS TO MAKE SURE
8:20:18PM THAT THE CITY EMPLOYEES GET WHAT THEY DESERVE, AND 9.5% HAS
8:20:24PM NEVER HAPPENED IN MY 29-YEAR CAREER AS A TEACHER, IN 29
8:20:30PM YEARS, 9.5% HAS NEVER HAPPENED.
8:20:32PM THAT'S NOT A LECTURE, YOU ALL.
8:20:36PM I DO SOUND LECTUREY.
8:20:40PM I APOLOGIZE.
8:20:41PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
8:20:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY AIDE CHECKED TONIGHT AND RELATIVE TO THE
8:20:50PM DISCUSSION.
8:20:50PM TRIM NOTICES ARE OUT.
8:20:52PM YOU CAN GO TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S WEBSITE RIGHT NOW,
8:20:55PM TYPE IN YOUR ADDRESS AND YOU CAN FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT YOUR
8:20:58PM MILL WILL COST YOU.
8:20:59PM IT WILL BE MAILED WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK, BUT IF YOU WANT TO
8:21:03PM KNOW RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN FIND OUT.
8:21:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
8:21:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
8:21:08PM YEAH, THE OTHER THING IS -- AND THE CFO CAN CORRECT ME -- WE
8:21:14PM HAVE LOTS OF AVERAGES BY DISTRICT AND CITYWIDE, BUT IF YOU
8:21:20PM WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH YOU'RE GOING TO PAY, LOOK AT THE
8:21:26PM TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE, NOT THE ZILLOW VALUE THAT'S REALLY
8:21:29PM HIGH BUT LESS THAN IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
8:21:33PM BUT LOOK AT THE ASSESSED VALUE, USUALLY THAT IS ABOUT 30%
8:21:36PM LESS THAN WHAT YOU THINK IT IS WORTH.
8:21:38PM LOOK AT THAT ASSESSED VALUE, TAKE OFF THREE ZEROES AND
8:21:40PM THAT'S HOW MUCH MORE YOU'RE GOING TO PAY.
8:21:42PM THAT IS THE EASY WAY.
8:21:44PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO ANYWHERE.
8:21:45PM JUST LOOK AT THAT.
8:21:46PM I WAS TALKING TO SOMEBODY TODAY, MY DISTRICT SOUTH TAMPA HAS
8:21:50PM A LOT OF EXPENSIVE HOUSES AND THEY WEREN'T ALL BOUGHT AS
8:21:53PM EXPENSIVE HOUSES.
8:21:54PM BUT SOMEBODY TODAY SAID, WELL, IT'S ONLY GOING TO GO UP BY A
8:21:58PM COUPLE HUNDRED DOLLARS A YEAR, RIGHT?
8:21:58PM I SAID, WELL, WHAT IS THE ASSESSED VALUE OF YOUR HOUSE?
8:22:00PM 1.5 MILLION.
8:22:01PM SO THAT MEANS HE'S GOING TO PAY $1500 MORE PER YEAR.
8:22:06PM IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE AND WHAT YOUR NUMBER IS.
8:22:09PM THAT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT FOR OR AGAINST.
8:22:16PM IT'S JUST TO HELP EVERYBODY FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY ARE.
8:22:16PM I WANT TO, FIRST OF ALL, THANK THE MAYOR AND THE STAFF.
8:22:20PM THEY HAVE GONE OUT OF THEIR WAY TO COMMUNICATE WITH US, WITH
8:22:23PM ME, ANYWAY.
8:22:25PM I'VE HAD TWO OR THREE MEETINGS WITH THE MAYOR, PHONE CALLS,
8:22:29PM MEETINGS WITH CFO.
8:22:31PM EVERYBODY HAS BEEN ACCESSIBLE.
8:22:33PM FOLKS ARE E-MAILING ME OVER THE WEEKEND.
8:22:36PM CHIEF OF STAFF WAS CALLING ME -- I THINK WE TALKED 7:45 THIS
8:22:39PM MORNING.
8:22:40PM SO I JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING ACCESSIBLE.
8:22:44PM WE ALL STARTED THIS NEW TERM TRYING TO BE COLLABORATIVE.
8:22:48PM EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT DISAGREE ON THE ISSUES SOMETIMES AND WE
8:22:51PM MIGHT IN THIS CASE EVENTUALLY, THE THING IS WE'RE ALL TRYING
8:22:54PM TO DO IT IN A COLLABORATIVE WAY.
8:22:56PM SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HOPING WE CAN DO.
8:22:58PM WHEN THE MAYOR GOT UP AND PRESENTED THE PRIORITIES THE OTHER
8:23:01PM DAY, SHE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT CITY COUNCIL AGREED WITH THOSE
8:23:04PM PRIORITIES AND SO IT'S NOT AN ISSUE ABOUT WHETHER WE THINK
8:23:09PM THESE PRIORITIES ARE IMPORTANT.
8:23:10PM IT'S ABOUT HOW MUCH WE SHOULD BE SPENDING IN THE SHORT TERM
8:23:15PM AND WHAT IMPACT WE MIGHT HAVE ON THE ECONOMY.
8:23:16PM I JUST WANT TO GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THINGS REAL FAST.
8:23:20PM UNDERLYING THE FIVE ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS
8:23:24PM REALLY THE ECONOMY OF TAMPA.
8:23:26PM AND ONE OF THE THINGS I STARTED TO SAY AS A SUMMARY, IF
8:23:30PM YOU'RE MAKING -- EVERYTHING IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE
8:23:32PM LAST 12 YEARS WAS BUILT AROUND PEOPLE MAKING MORE THAN
8:23:35PM $200,000 A YEAR.
8:23:37PM IF YOU'RE MAKING MORE THAN $200,000 A YEAR, MOST LIKELY YOU
8:23:41PM FEEL LIKE TAMPA IS REALLY SUCCESSFUL AND YOU'RE DOING REALLY
8:23:43PM WELL.
8:23:44PM IF YOU MAKE LESS THAN $200,000 A YEAR, YOU FEEL LIKE TAMPA
8:23:47PM IS IN A RECESSION AND THE PRICES ARE OUT OF CONTROL AND YOU
8:23:50PM CAN'T CONTROL WHERE YOU ARE.
8:23:51PM YOU'RE FEELING LIKE YOU MIGHT GO UNDERWATER, EVEN IF YOU'RE
8:23:55PM MAKING WHAT YOU THINK IS A LOT OF MONEY, IF YOU'RE MAKING
8:23:57PM LESS THAN 200,000, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN TROUBLE.
8:24:00PM ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOKED AT WAS THE SUMMARY AT THE
8:24:06PM BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET, NOT THE ONES WE'VE SEEN TODAY, BUT
8:24:09PM THE ONE ONLINE.
8:24:09PM THERE IS A SECTION CALLED ECONOMIC OUTLOOK, AND IN THAT
8:24:12PM SECTION, I'LL READ THE HEADLINES REAL FAST.
8:24:14PM IT TALKS ABOUT THE PORT, TALKS ABOUT THE AIRPORT, AND THEN
8:24:17PM THERE IS A SECTION CALLED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND IT HAS
8:24:22PM THESE HIGHLIGHTS MENTIONED.
8:24:23PM I'LL READ EVERY ONE OF THEM.
8:24:24PM THE HEIGHTS, WHICH IS ARMATURE WORKS, GAS WORKS, WHICH IS
8:24:28PM THE YBOR REAL ESTATE PROJECT.
8:24:31PM WATERS STREET, WEST RIVER DEVELOPMENT, MIDTOWN, WESTSHORE
8:24:35PM MARINA DISTRICT.
8:24:39PM THEN IT TALKS ABOUT THE RITZ-CARLTON, THE AER TOWER, A TOWER
8:24:45PM IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
8:24:46PM I CAN GO ON AND ON.
8:24:49PM THE POINT IS THAT TAMPA HAS WHAT I CALL THE EDIFICE COMPLEX.
8:24:52PM THE LAST 12 YEARS, WE'VE MEASURED SUCCESS BY THE BUILDINGS
8:24:56PM GOING UP.
8:24:57PM THAT IS IN THIS DOCUMENT.
8:24:59PM NICOLE DIDN'T WRITE THAT, BY THE WAY, AS FAR AS I KNOW.
8:25:02PM BUT IT IS IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT THE MEASURE OF OUR SUCCESS
8:25:05PM IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARE THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE GONE UP
8:25:07PM AND THE BUILDINGS GOING UP.
8:25:09PM NO CITY THAT WE ADMIRE IN THE WORLD MEASURES SUCCESS BY THE
8:25:12PM NUMBER OF BUILDINGS.
8:25:13PM NONE OF THEM DO.
8:25:14PM IT'S WHAT SMALL CITIES THAT ARE ASPIRING TO BE BIG DO.
8:25:18PM WE NEED TO STOP THINKING LIKE A SMALL CITY AND THINK LIKE A
8:25:21PM SUCCESSFUL CITY.
8:25:21PM THE WAY WE DO THAT IS BY LOOKING AT DIFFERENT ECONOMIC
8:25:24PM MEASURES.
8:25:25PM WE CAN'T HAVE A SUCCESSFUL CITY WHERE PEOPLE UNDER 200,000,
8:25:28PM WHICH IS A LOT OF MONEY, FEEL LIKE THEY ARE IN A RECESSION,
8:25:30PM AND THEY ARE BEING LEFT BEHIND.
8:25:32PM THAT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE BECAUSE OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
8:25:34PM SYSTEM WAS NOT BASED AROUND IT.
8:25:36PM WHY IS IT IMPORTANT?
8:25:36PM BECAUSE THE BIG COMPANIES IN THE WORLD DON'T LOOK AT THE EDC
8:25:41PM NUMBERS; THEY LOOK AT THE REAL NUMBERS.
8:25:44PM AND THE REAL NUMBERS ARE NOT GOOD.
8:25:46PM WE NEED TO CHANGE THEM.
8:25:47PM HOW DO I KNOW THIS?
8:25:49PM IF YOU LOOK IN THE SAME ECONOMIC SECTION THAT'S IN THIS
8:25:56PM BUDGET, THERE IS A SECTION CALLED "ECONOMIC OUTLOOK."
8:25:59PM THIS IS IN THE BUDGET.
8:26:00PM I'M GOING TO READ A SENTENCE REAL FAST.
8:26:02PM THE METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREA MSA, ECONOMIC INDICATORS
8:26:06PM FOR AM AT THAT, ST. PETERSBURG, CLEARWATER, ARE EXPECTED TO
8:26:08PM SHOW SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE LEVELS OF GROWTH COMPARED TO
8:26:12PM OTHER AREAS IN FLORIDA.
8:26:13PM ACCORDING TO THE UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL FLORIDA, FLORIDA
8:26:16PM METRO FORECAST 2023 TO 2026 FROM JUNE 2023, POPULATION
8:26:20PM GROWTH WILL AVERAGE 1.3% ANNUALLY.
8:26:23PM EMPLOYMENT IS EXPECTED TO CONTRACT, THAT MEANS GET SMALLER
8:26:26PM BY .6% ANNUALLY.
8:26:28PM THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS EXPECTED AVERAGE 4.5, WHICH IS A
8:26:31PM LOT GREATER THAN WHERE WE ARE NOW, THROUGH 2026.
8:26:34PM THAT'S THREE YEARS.
8:26:35PM THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE FOR THE MSA AS OF JUNE 2023 IS 2.6%
8:26:41PM PER THE U.S. BUREAU OF LABOR STANDARDS.
8:26:43PM SO THIS IS THE SAME MEASURE I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR FOUR YEARS,
8:26:47PM NOW IT'S IN THE BUDGET, WRITTEN IN THE BUDGET.
8:26:49PM THESE ARE MSA NUMBERS, NOT TAMPA'S NUMBERS, BUT WE KNOW WHEN
8:26:52PM LOOKING AT THE TAMPA'S NUMBERS THAT TAMPA IS PULLING DOWN
8:26:55PM THE REGION TO SOME EXTENT.
8:26:56PM THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE NECK DEVELOPMENT.
8:26:59PM IF WE CHANGE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO BRING EVERYBODY UP,
8:27:01PM PEOPLE CAN AFFORD TO RENT.
8:27:02PM THEY CAN AFFORD HOUSES.
8:27:04PM THE PROBLEM IS THAT WAGES AREN'T KEEPING UP WITH THE
8:27:06PM EXPENSES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
8:27:07PM WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE THE WAY WE LOOK AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
8:27:10PM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CANNOT BE SUBSIDIZING REAL ESTATE
8:27:13PM DEVELOPMENT AND SUBSIDIZING OUT-OF-STATE JOBS THAT PAY LOW
8:27:17PM WAGES, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
8:27:22PM WE'VE GOT TO RADICALLY CHANGE THAT.
8:27:24PM WE HAVE TO SET ECONOMIC PRIORITIES SET AROUND THE ECONOMIC
8:27:27PM PRIORITIES THAT OTHER CITIES LOOK LIKE.
8:27:28PM AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR SEVERAL
8:27:30PM YEARS IS BRINGING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN-HOUSE.
8:27:33PM WE HAVE AN EXCELLENT TEAM.
8:27:34PM LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
8:27:37PM A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE WERE ASKED -- FOUR YEARS AGO WE
8:27:40PM WERE ASKED BY THE ADMINISTRATION, PLEASE BRING THE
8:27:42PM INCINERATOR PLANT IN HOUSE.
8:27:44PM THAT IS A FACILITY WORTH HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
8:27:47PM BROUGHT IT IN HOUSE.
8:27:49PM SPENDING SOMETHING LIKE $80 MILLION TO RENOVATE IT.
8:27:51PM THE CITY STAFF IS NOW RUNNING IT BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION
8:27:53PM SAID WE THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER JOB RUNNING THIS HUGELY
8:27:57PM EXPENSIVE, COMPLICATED, COMPLEX, IMPORTANT PROPERTY, WE
8:28:00PM THINK WE CAN RUN IT BETTER THAN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
8:28:03PM WHY CAN'T THE CITY OF TAMPA RUN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BETTER
8:28:06PM THAN OUTSOURCING IT THE WAY WE ARE NOW TO THE EDC?
8:28:10PM WE'RE NOT GETTING THE RESULTS WE NEED.
8:28:12PM THE REASON WHY PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD HOUSES, THE REASON WHY
8:28:14PM THEY CAN'T AFFORD RENT, THE REASON WHY THEY ARE MOVING OUT
8:28:17PM OF THE CITY IS BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DEVELOPING JOBS UNDER
8:28:20PM 200,000 AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
8:28:22PM THAT'S NOT WORKFORCE TRAINING.
8:28:24PM THAT IS A 1980' WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.
8:28:26PM THAT'S IMPORTANT.
8:28:27PM WE HAVE TO DEVELOP HIGH-PAYING JOBS AND MULTIGENERATIONAL
8:28:29PM JOBS.
8:28:30PM THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, TWO OTHER QUICK THINGS, IF WE LOOK
8:28:36PM AT THE FEDERAL RESERVE, THE FEDERAL RESERVE HAS TWO MAIN
8:28:39PM THINGS THAT THEY CAN MOVE.
8:28:43PM THE INTEREST RATES AND THE MONEY SUPPLY.
8:28:46PM AND THEY HAVE TO CAREFULLY LOOK AT INFLATION VERSUS WHERE
8:28:48PM THE ECONOMY IS GOING.
8:28:50PM EVERY TIME THEY MEET, THEY KNOW THAT THE WORLD ECONOMY IS
8:28:52PM GOING TO MOVE BASED ON WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
8:28:55PM THEY COULD, IF THEY RAISE RATES TOO QUICKLY, THEY COULD DRY
8:28:58PM THE ENTIRE ECONOMY OF THE WORLD AND ESPECIALLY THE UNITED
8:29:00PM STATES.
8:29:00PM WE ARE SITTING IN ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS RIGHT NOW.
8:29:04PM EVERYBODY HAS TALKED ABOUT INSURANCE RATES GOING UP.
8:29:06PM UTILITY RATES GOING UP.
8:29:08PM INFLATION HAS PUSHED EVERYTHING UP.
8:29:10PM THIS GROUP OF BELOW $200,000, THEY ARE REALLY PRICE
8:29:13PM SENSITIVE RIGHT NOW.
8:29:14PM THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE ON THE VERGE OF LOSING EVERYTHING.
8:29:18PM IF WE PUSH THIS ECONOMY INTO A FULL-OUT RECESSION, OR IF WE
8:29:23PM PUSH PEOPLE TO THE BRINK WHERE PEOPLE WHO FEEL LIKE THEY ARE
8:29:25PM IN THE MIDDLE CLASS AND WERE PREVIOUSLY DOING WELL BEFORE
8:29:28PM ALL THIS CHANGE, IF WE PUSH THEM TO THE POINT WHERE THEY
8:29:31PM CAN'T AFFORD THEIR HOMES ANYMORE, WE'RE GOING TO REALLY HURT
8:29:33PM THIS ECONOMY FOR A LONG TIME.
8:29:35PM IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF THE PRIORITIES.
8:29:38PM WE ALL AGREE TO THE PRIORITIES.
8:29:40PM IT'S NOT EVEN A QUESTION ABOUT MAYBE GETTING MORE REVENUES.
8:29:43PM THERE IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION ABOUT TIMING RIGHT NOW.
8:29:45PM AND I THINK WE ALL NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT.
8:29:47PM WE'RE REALLY SITTING LIKE THE FEDERAL RESERVE HERE, THE
8:29:50PM ECONOMY OF TAMPA IS GOING TO BE BASED ON WHAT WE DO GOING
8:29:53PM FORWARD.
8:29:54PM THANK YOU.
8:29:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
8:30:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, LET ME JUST SAY THIS.
8:30:03PM I SAID THIS BEFORE.
8:30:05PM ON THE AD VALOREM COLLECTIONS, IN 2022-2023, 25 MILLION THAT
8:30:13PM THE GENERAL FUND HAD TO PUT IN TO MEET THE DEMAND FOR THE
8:30:16PM FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
8:30:18PM '23-24 IS THE BUDGET WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
8:30:22PM THAT NUMBER CAME DOWN TO ZERO.
8:30:24PM SO THAT MEANS THAT WE SAVE $25 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND
8:30:28PM GOING IN TO PAY FOR OTHER ITEMS IN THE POLICE AND FIRE
8:30:31PM DEPARTMENT WHICH WERE NEEDED.
8:30:32PM DON'T GET ME WRONG.
8:30:34PM SO THAT MEANS IN THIS BUDGET, '23-24, REALLY A $50 MILLION
8:30:41PM PICKUP.
8:30:43PM PUT 25 IN THE GENERAL FUND AND YOU HAVE 25 LEFT OVER.
8:30:47PM AM I CORRECT SO FAR OR OFF?
8:30:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT'S CUMULATIVE.
8:30:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO TALK THAT WAY.
8:30:52PM THANK YOU.
8:30:53PM THEN WHEN I SEE HOUSING, AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD IN TAMPA, 218, I
8:30:58PM DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY WERE DRINKING.
8:31:01PM YOU CAN'T BUY A LOT IN WEST TAMPA FOR $200,000.
8:31:04PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE THE 218 CAME FROM.
8:31:09PM IF SOMETHING AIN'T SELLING, THAT MEANS IT AIN'T WORTH 218.
8:31:15PM AM I CORRECT?
8:31:16PM ANYPLACE YOU GO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT'S ABOUT SUPPLY AND
8:31:23PM DEMAND.
8:31:24PM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE DEMAND WAS HIGHER FOR GASOLINE, IT
8:31:28PM WENT UP, WENT UP JUST RECENTLY TO ALMOST $4.
8:31:32PM TAMPA WAS 357 I BELIEVE.
8:31:34PM AND IT WILL COME DOWN WHEN WE STOP USING IT.
8:31:37PM SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S
8:31:42PM BEFORE US, I DON'T THINK ABOUT THIS YEAR OR NEXT YEAR, I'M
8:31:45PM THINKING BACK TO 2026 AND 2027.
8:31:49PM I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
8:31:51PM THAT'S WHEN THE BIG ANIMAL COMES CALLED THE CIT, COMMUNITY
8:31:55PM INVESTMENT TAX.
8:31:55PM IT'S A SALES TAX.
8:32:00PM ONE SIDE IS VERY REGRESSIVE BECAUSE IT'S NOT BASED ON
8:32:02PM INCOME.
8:32:03PM ON THE OTHER SIDE, 30 TO 35%, MAYBE 40% OF THAT MONEY IS
8:32:08PM PAID BY SOMEBODY ELSE WHO VISITS THE CITY OF TAMPA OR WITHIN
8:32:11PM THE CORPORATE LIMITS OF THE CITY.
8:32:16PM WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THEN?
8:32:16PM THAT ENDS IN 2026.
8:32:19PM WE KEEP PASSING TAXES.
8:32:21PM YOU THINK THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS?
8:32:22PM I SAY THAT THE CIT TAX CREATES MORE MONEY THAN WE CAN DO
8:32:31PM WITH THIS TAX.
8:32:33PM I'M NOT AGAINST TAXES.
8:32:34PM I'M NOT FOR THEM EITHER.
8:32:36PM BUT WHEN I SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT YOU HAVE A 25
8:32:40PM MILLION PLUS, THAT MEANS NEXT YEAR YOU DON'T HAVE TO PICK UP
8:32:43PM ZERO.
8:32:44PM YOU GOT 25 ALREADY IN THERE.
8:32:47PM GET THE SAME THING, ANOTHER 25, 30, GET ABOUT $55 MILLION ON
8:32:52PM THAT SIDE.
8:32:54PM MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I'M CALCULATING ON THE NUMBERS THAT
8:32:56PM I'VE SEEN ON THE SCREEN.
8:32:58PM THEN I SAW YOU CAN'T OVERSPEND MORE THAN WHAT YOU GET, BUT I
8:33:03PM SAW SPEND HUNDRED, FORGOT WHAT IT WAS -- THE LAST ONE IN
8:33:09PM 2018.
8:33:09PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: 107%, YES, SIR.
8:33:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YEAH, 107%.
8:33:13PM SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM.
8:33:15PM CAN'T SPEND MORE THAN A HUNDRED.
8:33:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: FUND BALANCE.
8:33:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FUND BALANCE.
8:33:19PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
8:33:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OKAY.
8:33:20PM I GOT IT.
8:33:22PM IF YOU WENT FROM 2018 TO 2023 THEN, FROM THOSE BALANCES THAT
8:33:26PM I SAW, FROM 18 TO 23, YOU HAD AN ADDITIONAL COLLECTION OF
8:33:31PM $114 MILLION DIFFERENCE FROM 2018.
8:33:34PM AM I CORRECT?
8:33:36PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DIDN'T QUITE FOLLOW THAT MATH, SIR.
8:33:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN 2018, AD VALOREM TAX COLLECTION TO THE
8:33:42PM 2023 AD VALOREM COLLECTION, I THINK THERE IS A DIFFERENCE OF
8:33:46PM 114 MILLION BETWEEN THOSE, WHICH IS FINE.
8:33:49PM INFLATION.
8:33:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
8:33:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I QUESTION THE HOUSING, $218,000 FOR A
8:33:56PM HOUSE.
8:33:57PM YOU CAN'T BUY ANYTHING IN TAMPA FOR $218,000.
8:34:00PM MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY YET.
8:34:05PM SO THEN IN 2026, THE CIT TAX ENDS.
8:34:11PM 2026 IT ENDS.
8:34:13PM SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU NEED TO SUPPLY ANOTHER -- TALKING
8:34:20PM ABOUT SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT YOU HAVE IN THE POLICE
8:34:22PM DEPARTMENT IS SIX YEARS OLD.
8:34:24PM THERE ARE GOING TO BE A LOT MORE THAT ARE SIX YEARS OLD.
8:34:31PM BECAUSE IF THE TAX ENDS AND DON'T PASS IT, AND THE PUBLIC
8:34:34PM NOW IS CATCHING ON TO WHAT HAPPENED WAY BACK IN SEPTEMBER 6
8:34:38PM OF 1996.
8:34:41PM THEY KNOW THAT THAT ONE AND A HALF PERCENT THAT IT PASSED BY
8:34:43PM WAS BECAUSE THEY SPENT 484 MILLION -- I MEAN, 484,000,
8:34:50PM PUBLIC SPENDING ZERO AND THEY LOST THE PUBLIC BY HALF A
8:34:54PM PERCENT OR ONE AND A HALF PERCENT, WHATEVER IT WAS.
8:34:56PM SO WHEN THIS COMES UP THIS TIME, AND IF THIS GETS TORN DOWN,
8:35:01PM YOU CAN FORGET EVERYTHING YOU'RE LOOKING HERE.
8:35:04PM BECAUSE YOU AIN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.
8:35:06PM YOU AIN'T NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE THE PROGRESSIVE CITY
8:35:11PM THAT YOU WANT TO BE.
8:35:12PM BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE NOT ONLY -- YOU'RE GOING
8:35:15PM TO LOSE MILLIONS MORE.
8:35:16PM I FORGOT WHAT IT IS.
8:35:19PM IT'S A BIG NUMBER.
8:35:19PM AND LIKE I SAID, IT IS A REGRESSIVE TAX, I ADMIT THAT.
8:35:23PM BUT ALSO A TAX THAT 35, 40 PERCENT OF US PAY BY SOMEBODY
8:35:28PM ELSE WHO VISIT, THE AQUARIUM, 970,000 OR 975,000 VISITORS.
8:35:33PM LOWRY PARK ZOO HAD 1.25 MILLION VISITORS.
8:35:35PM TAMPA NEVER HAD THAT.
8:35:37PM WE HAD A CREW PICK UP THE SIDEWALK AT 5:00 NOBODY WAS
8:35:45PM WALKING IN THE STREETS.
8:35:46PM WE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
8:35:49PM THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
8:35:50PM IT'S NOT VERY HARD TO FIGURE OUT.
8:35:54PM I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DOING SOMETHING, BUT I FEEL THAT WHAT
8:36:00PM WE'RE DOING TODAY IS GOING TO HAVE A REFLECTION ON IF AND
8:36:03PM WHEN THAT TAX IS PUT ON AND WHAT THE AMENITIES ARE GOING TO
8:36:06PM BE AND WHERE THAT TAX IS GOING TO GO THAT THE PUBLIC IS
8:36:09PM EITHER GOING TO VOTE IT UP OR DOWN.
8:36:12PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
8:36:13PM AND SIR YOU HAD REFERENCE TO HOW MUCH WE GET FROM THE
8:36:15PM COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX.
8:36:17PM WE GET ABOUT $30 MILLION A YEAR RIGHT NOW FROM THAT.
8:36:19PM CITY OF TAMPA.
8:36:20PM YES, SIR.
8:36:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FOR 30 YEARS.
8:36:23PM SO 900 MILLION, RIGHT?
8:36:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WELL, IT'S GONE UP OVER TIME, YES.
8:36:28PM AND AS YOU SAY, WE ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF YEARS LEFT.
8:36:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE BIG PICTURE IS
8:36:34PM THIS IS NECESSARY, BUT THE BIG PICTURE IS WHAT ARE YOU GOING
8:36:39PM TO DO WHEN THIS VOTE COMES UP?
8:36:40PM THAT'S WHAT THE CITIZENS HAVE TO REALLY, REALLY CLAMP DOWN
8:36:45PM AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
8:36:46PM IT'S NOT JUST WHAT WE DO.
8:36:48PM IT IS THE BIG PICTURE OF WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO SURVIVE.
8:36:51PM AND BEING THE CITY THAT WE ARE OR THE CITY THAT WE WANT TO
8:36:55PM BE.
8:36:55PM SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I'M LOOKING AT TO MAKE A
8:36:59PM CONSCIOUS DECISION IN THE FIRST WEEK OF SEPTEMBER AND THEN
8:37:04PM THE SECOND READING. THESE ARE THE THINGS I'LL LOOK AT TO
8:37:08PM SEE WHAT I CAN AFFORD TO SELL THE PUBLIC.
8:37:11PM IT'S FINE, BUT RIGHT NOW, I THINK THAT ONE MILL OR WHATEVER
8:37:16PM YOU WANT TO CALL IT, 12% OR 15%, A LITTLE OVER THE EDGE FOR
8:37:22PM THE PUBLIC.
8:37:23PM IT'S NOT BAD.
8:37:25PM YOU CANNOT BASE IT ON 218 BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T FLY.
8:37:30PM THERE'S NO HOUSE IN WEST TAMPA.
8:37:32PM THERE'S NO HOUSE IN ANY PART OF THE CITY.
8:37:36PM RIGHT NOW BEING BUILT -- YOU CAN'T BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING
8:37:39PM FOR $218,000 AND GAVE YOU THE LOT.
8:37:43PM AM I RIGHT OR WRONG?
8:37:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WOULD NOT SAY YOU'RE WRONG.
8:37:48PM I WOULD POINT TO A COMMENT COUNCILMAN CARLSON THAT HE MADE
8:37:52PM PREVIOUSLY.
8:37:53PM AGAIN, TYPICALLY YOUR TAXABLE ASSESSED VALUE IS MUCH, MUCH
8:37:57PM LOWER THAN THE REAL LIFE, IF YOU WILL, VALUATION.
8:38:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
8:38:02PM IF WE CAN BUILD HOUSING FOR 218 WITH LOT AND EVERYTHING, WE
8:38:07PM WOULD HAVE HAD 30% MORE BUILT.
8:38:10PM BUT THAT'S WHAT I THINK IT IS.
8:38:15PM MAYBE I'M WRONG.
8:38:16PM NOT 100% CORRECT, BUT I'VE GOT TO STUDY THIS A LITTLE BIT
8:38:21PM MORE BEFORE THE DECISION BEST FOR THE PUBLIC, WHAT THEY CAN
8:38:24PM HANDLE AND WHAT THEY CAN'T HANDLE.
8:38:26PM I'M NOT GOING TO GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING THAT HURTS SOMEONE.
8:38:33PM I FEEL LIKE VALUE OF 218 IS WAY LOW.
8:38:36PM THAT'S MY BELIEF.
8:38:37PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:38:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN
8:38:40PM AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENT.
8:38:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL GO FAST.
8:38:43PM WE STILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
8:38:44PM A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I WANTED TO STIPULATE THAT
8:38:47PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON MENTIONED, FAIR OAKS, THIS BUDGET,
8:38:50PM THIS TAX INCREASE, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE IN NO WAY, IF
8:38:55PM WE REJECT IT 100%, WHICH I OPPOSE, THAT WOULD NOT PUT FAIR
8:38:58PM OAKS IN ANY WAY IN JEOPARDY, IS THAT CORRECT?
8:39:01PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CORRECT.
8:39:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, GOOD.
8:39:03PM I SAY THAT BECAUSE THAT IS A $40 MILLION INVESTMENT IN EAST
8:39:07PM TAMPA RECREATION THAT WE HAVE ALL SUPPORTED.
8:39:11PM THOSE OF US WHO WERE ON THE PRIOR COUNCIL, A LOT OF THE
8:39:14PM FOLKS WORKED HARD ON THAT, ET CETERA, AND THAT'S SOMETHING
8:39:18PM THAT WE ALL SUPPORT, AND I DON'T WANT ANYBODY, YOU KNOW,
8:39:23PM INADVERTENTLY, GOD FORBID.
8:39:25PM I WANT TO SHARE IN THAT REGARD, THAT IS A GREAT WIN.
8:39:29PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.
8:39:31PM AND I WOULD ALSO ADD TO THAT OUR ANTICIPATED FUNDING SOURCE
8:39:34PM FOR THAT IS DEBT SERVICE.
8:39:36PM SO IT WOULD BE OVER A 30-YEAR PERIOD.
8:39:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
8:39:39PM SO THAT IS ON ITS WAY AND NOTHING THAT WILL STOP THAT.
8:39:46PM I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO SAY.
8:39:47PM A COUPLE OF THINGS JUST NOTATIONS THAT I MADE AS WELL, WHICH
8:39:50PM IS A REFERENCE WAS MADE ABOUT ARPA FUNDING, AND THE FEDERAL
8:39:57PM PRESIDENT BIDEN'S STIMULUS POST COVID, ALSO TALK ABOUT CARES
8:40:03PM ACT FUNDING, ET CETERA, WHICH WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL FEDERAL
8:40:07PM PROGRAMS THAT SERVE FEDERAL STIMULUS DOLLARS, SAYING THE
8:40:10PM CITY OF TAMPA IS LOSING THE FEDERAL STIMULUS DOLLARS, THEN
8:40:14PM THAT'S ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.
8:40:15PM THE OTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT IT IS SAYING WE'RE RAISING TAXES
8:40:19PM FOR PERMANENT STIMULUS, RIGHT?
8:40:21PM THAT IS ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT.
8:40:24PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO -- CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO BROUGHT UP A
8:40:26PM VERY GOOD POINT WITH REGARDS TO MAKING SURE THAT TO THE
8:40:29PM EXTENT WE PASS THE MILLAGE INCREASE, THAT WE MAKE SURE IT
8:40:34PM GETS SPENT IN THE PROPER WAYS.
8:40:35PM I THINK THAT WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT OUR CITIZENS BUDGET
8:40:38PM ADVISORY BOARD, HAVING AN INCREASED LEVEL OF SCRUTINY ON
8:40:42PM THIS PARTICULAR, TO THE EXTENT IT'S PASSED, ON THIS
8:40:45PM PARTICULAR MILLAGE INCREASE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GOES FOR
8:40:48PM WHAT WE'RE STIPULATING IT FOR NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
8:40:52PM THAT IS REALLY, REALLY CRITICAL, BECAUSE FIVE YEARS FROM
8:40:54PM NOW, WHO KNOWS WHERE IT WILL GO.
8:40:56PM WE DON'T WANT IT TO GO TO A GOLDEN TOILET OR SOMETHING.
8:40:59PM THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
8:41:00PM GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
8:41:01PM AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE ADDRESS THAT, BY THE WAY, IS
8:41:05PM TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE LARGER PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW THAT
8:41:07PM WE NEED AND PUTTING THEM IN MOTION, INCLUDING -- DAMN IT,
8:41:10PM I'LL SAY IT AGAIN -- THE THREE FIRE STATIONS.
8:41:13PM AND THEN LASTLY, SOMETHING I DO ALSO WANT TO ADDRESS, THERE
8:41:16PM IS THIS KIND OF IDEA OUT THERE THAT I'M HEARING, WHICH IS,
8:41:20PM LISTEN, WE'RE PROPOSING A 16% TAX INCREASE BECAUSE THIS IS
8:41:23PM WHAT COUNCIL WANTS IN TERMS OF SPENDING PRIORITIES.
8:41:26PM NOW, COUNCIL, IF YOU ALL WANT TO REDUCE IT, THEN COUNCIL --
8:41:29PM WINK-WINK -- COME UP WITH THE CUTS.
8:41:32PM I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE PROPER WAY TO GO.
8:41:34PM I THINK IF YOU ARE GETTING A SENSE OF THE COUNCIL THAT THERE
8:41:39PM IS A REDUCTION WARRANTED, I THINK WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER
8:41:42PM AND NOT JUST SAY, HEY, COUNCIL, GO AHEAD AND CUT IT.
8:41:45PM YOU ALL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
8:41:47PM WE SHARE THE GAIN.
8:41:48PM WE ALSO SHARE THE PAIN.
8:41:49PM ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THIS -- AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO
8:41:51PM LOOK AT THIS, WHICH IS, IS THIS GOING TO BE, AS PRESENTLY
8:41:56PM PROPOSED, IF IT PASSES, THE HIGHEST TAX INCREASE IN THE CITY
8:41:59PM OF TAMPA HISTORY PERCENTAGEWISE?
8:42:04PM AGAIN, IT MAY VERY WELL BE.
8:42:06PM WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE MILLAGE GRAPH TABLES OVER THE LAST
8:42:08PM SEVERAL YEARS, I THINK -- AGAIN, I'M NOT MARRYING THIS --
8:42:11PM I'M THINKING IT MAY VERY WELL BE FOR THE LAST FEW DECADES AT
8:42:13PM THE VERY LEAST.
8:42:14PM IT IS SOMETHING, IF TRUE, SOMETHING WORTH THINKING ABOUT,
8:42:18PM WHICH IS, AGAIN, THERE ARE BOTH SIDES TO THAT ARGUMENT.
8:42:20PM SO I THINK WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER ON THAT.
8:42:22PM THAT'S IT.
8:42:23PM YES, SIR.
8:42:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
8:42:24PM I HAVE A QUESTION, HOPEFULLY YOU WEREN'T MISCONSTRUING MY
8:42:30PM COMMENTS TO MEAN, HEY, COUNCIL, CUT --
8:42:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, NO.
8:42:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WANTED EXPRESS IT IS VERY TIGHT.
8:42:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
8:42:38PM I'M NOT POINTING TO ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR, JUST THE IDEA
8:42:41PM THAT, HEY, LISTEN, THIS IS WHAT COUNCIL WANTS.
8:42:44PM THIS IS WHAT IT TAKES TO DO IT IN TERMS OF MORE REVENUE.
8:42:47PM AGAIN, WE'RE SAYING YES TO EVERYTHING.
8:42:49PM NO TO NOTHING, AND COUNCIL SAY NO.
8:42:52PM AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO SAY NO, THEN FIND BUDGET CUTS.
8:42:55PM AGAIN, I THINK WE OUGHT TO WORK TOGETHER.
8:42:57PM BY THE WAY, IT'S REALLY NOT BUDGET CUTS IF WE PASS HALF A
8:43:01PM MILLAGE INCREASE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IMMEDIATELY $4 MILLION
8:43:04PM MORE FOR THE CRAs THAT CAN BE DOMINATED BY AFFORDABLE
8:43:07PM HOUSING PLUS WHATEVER WE GIVE.
8:43:08PM THERE IS NO BUDGET CUT HERE.
8:43:10PM IT'S A MATTER OF HOW MUCH MORE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND.
8:43:12PM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE PROPER TERMS WHEN WE'RE
8:43:15PM TALKING ABOUT RAISING PEOPLE'S TAXES IN OUR ECONOMY, WE HAVE
8:43:19PM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK WITH THE PROPER WORDS.
8:43:22PM SO THAT'S IT.
8:43:23PM THANK YOU.
8:43:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND THEN WE'LL GO
8:43:26PM TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
8:43:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
8:43:30PM SO I'VE HEARD SEVERAL THINGS TONIGHT.
8:43:32PM ONE I THINK COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID THIS.
8:43:34PM WANTS AND NEEDS.
8:43:35PM I THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT ASSESSMENT AS WE EVALUATE
8:43:39PM ALL OF OUR BUDGETS.
8:43:40PM MY HOUSEHOLD BUDGET, FUNCTION AT EVERY LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT,
8:43:45PM AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK -- IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO GO THROUGH
8:43:49PM THAT, TOO, AND SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER WANTS IN THERE AND NOT
8:43:52PM NEEDS.
8:43:54PM I WILL SAY -- SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY WANTS, OTHER PEOPLE WOULD
8:43:58PM SAY WASTEFUL SPENDING.
8:43:59PM I SAY IF WE IDENTIFY THOSE LINE ITEMS IN THE BUDGET, LET'S
8:44:02PM BRING THEM FORWARD FOR A FULL EVALUATION FOR COUNCIL AS WE
8:44:05PM EVALUATE THE BUDGET AND THEN ADDRESS THOSE INDIVIDUALLY BY
8:44:07PM THE LINE ITEMS.
8:44:09PM BUT AS I LOOK AT THIS AND HOW THIS IS PRESENTED AND
8:44:13PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, BY THE WAY, THIS IS, A LOT OF TIMES THIS
8:44:15PM IS THE ONLY TIME -- WE CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER.
8:44:18PM SO A LOT OF THE STUFF WE'RE TALKING OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
8:44:22PM DO IT THIS WAY SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY.
8:44:26PM WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS BUDGET AND THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY,
8:44:31PM I SEE THAT A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE NEEDS BECAUSE OF
8:44:34PM DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, BECAUSE WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LONG
8:44:39PM STRETCH OF TIME THAT WE HAVEN'T INVESTED IN THESE THINGS.
8:44:43PM WE'VE LET THEM GO.
8:44:44PM WE'VE LET THEM SLIP AWAY.
8:44:47PM HONESTLY, I WOULD LOVE TO CUT EVERYBODY'S TAXES.
8:44:49PM GUESS WHAT, WHEN I RAISE TAXES, I'M RAISING TAXES ON ME,
8:44:53PM TOO, AND I DON'T LIVE IN A $232,000 HOUSE.
8:44:56PM I'M RAISING TAXES ON MY HOUSE.
8:44:58PM WOULD I LOVE TO CUT EVERYBODY, YEAH, BUT ALSO ELECTED
8:45:01PM OFFICIAL, I'M TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
8:45:03PM AND SOMEONE TOLD ME, IT'S SO MUCH EASIER TO VOTE NO ON THESE
8:45:08PM THINGS.
8:45:08PM IT'S MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO GET TO YES.
8:45:10PM MY OTHER QUESTION IS, BECAUSE I KEEP HEARING, HONESTLY, AND
8:45:15PM I HAVE ALSO ALONG WITH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, I HAVE READ
8:45:19PM EVERY ONE OF THE E-MAILS YOU SENT TO CITY COUNCIL BOX AND
8:45:22PM INDIVIDUAL AND IT'S A LOT OF E-MAILS.
8:45:24PM I HEAR A LOT OF THINGS PEOPLE STATE BEING THE TIME.
8:45:27PM EVERYTHING IS GOING UP.
8:45:28PM TECO IS THE NUMBER ONE THING I KEEP HEARING FROM EVERYBODY.
8:45:31PM SORRY TECO.
8:45:33PM HOUSING, INSURANCE.
8:45:34PM WE ARE ALL EXPERIENCING THE SAME STRESSES.
8:45:36PM THEY ARE ALL GOING UP FOR ME, TOO.
8:45:38PM AND THE CITY IS NOT IMMUNE TO THAT.
8:45:43PM THE CITY, OUR COSTS ARE GOING UP.
8:45:45PM SO WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE INCREASE IN TAXES THAT WE'RE
8:45:51PM GETTING AT THE VALUATION OF HOMES, AGAIN, WE HAVE TO TALK
8:45:54PM ABOUT OUTSIDE OF THE CRAs.
8:45:56PM WE HAVE TO ABSORB THE SALARY INCREASES.
8:45:58PM ALL THOSE THINGS WITHIN THOSE REEVALUATIONS.
8:46:00PM AND THE COST TO THE CITY HAS BEEN HIGH.
8:46:03PM SO WHEN IS THE RIGHT TIME? THE ONE THING THAT I KNOW OF
8:46:07PM LIVING A RELATIVELY LONG LIFE SO FAR IS THAT THE RIGHT TIME
8:46:10PM IS NOW.
8:46:10PM I WISH WE ALL COULD 20 YEARS AGO BOUGHT APPLE STOCK.
8:46:18PM WE ALL WISH WE WOULD HAVE BOUGHT A HOUSE 20 YEARS AGO.
8:46:22PM IT'S NEVER COMFORTABLE.
8:46:24PM WHEN WE BUY OUR FIRST HOUSE, WE MAKE OUR FIRST INVESTMENT,
8:46:27PM IT'S ALWAYS DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT IS ALWAYS THAT STRETCH.
8:46:30PM BUT EVENTUALLY WE GROW INTO IT.
8:46:32PM AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THIS PROBLEM IS THAT WHEN IS THE
8:46:35PM RIGHT TIME?
8:46:36PM IF WE ALLOW THE ROADS, WE'VE HEARD FROM STAFF THAT IF WE
8:46:40PM ALLOW THESE ROADS TO ERODE FURTHER, IT'S GOING TO COST US
8:46:44PM EXPONENTIALLY MORE MONEY -- FIVE TIMES, THANK YOU,
8:46:48PM COUNCILWOMAN, FIVE TIMES MORE MONEY IN SOME FUTURE DATE TO
8:46:53PM DIG THOSE ROADS UP AND REPAVE THEM.
8:46:55PM IF WE DON'T BUILD THOSE SIDEWALKS AND SERVICE THESE SCHOOLS
8:46:58PM AND PROVIDE SAFE ACCESS TO THESE PLAYGROUNDS AND SCHOOLS AT
8:47:04PM WHAT COST, A SAFETY COST OF A CHILD.
8:47:07PM WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM WITH PEDESTRIAN
8:47:10PM FATALITIES.
8:47:10PM SO AT WHAT COST?
8:47:12PM THE TIME OF DOING THOSE THINGS IS NOW.
8:47:14PM HONESTLY, THE TIME TO DO IT WAS YESTERDAY, BUT WE'VE HAD
8:47:17PM THINGS LIKE THE GREAT RECESSION.
8:47:18PM WE'VE HAD COVID.
8:47:19PM WE'VE HAD ALL THESE VENTS THAT LED US TODAY, AND TODAY IS
8:47:23PM THE KIND OF SWEET SPOT.
8:47:24PM ON SAFETY, I WOULD ARGUE THAT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE
8:47:29PM HEARD TODAY ARE TIED TO SAFETY.
8:47:31PM I'M A HUGE ADVOCATE AND SUPPORTER OF OUR POLICE AND OUR FIRE
8:47:35PM AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE.
8:47:38PM I SUPPORT EVERYTHING THAT THEY BROUGHT TO THE TABLE TODAY.
8:47:40PM BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT IMPROVING OUR ROADS, IMPROVING OUR
8:47:44PM INTERSECTIONS, IMPROVING OUR SIDEWALKS, FUNDING THE POLICE
8:47:47PM ATHLETIC LEAGUE, FUNDING PARKS SO THAT THE KIDS HAVE PLACES
8:47:51PM TO GO AFTER SCHOOL, IT'S ALL ABOUT SAFETY.
8:47:54PM IT'S ALL ABOUT PROVIDING THIS ENVIRONMENT SO KIDS CAN GROW
8:47:59PM UP, GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO BE ENGAGED.
8:48:02PM I WAS A MISCHIEVOUS TEENAGER AT ONE POINT.
8:48:06PM YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE THEM PLACES TO BE.
8:48:09PM LOOK SHOCKED.
8:48:10PM SHE SAYS I'M STILL ONE.
8:48:11PM [ LAUGHTER ]
8:48:11PM BUT, YOU KNOW, SO ALL OF THIS IS SO INTERTWINED, AND IT'S SO
8:48:16PM IMPORTANT TO BUILDING THE TYPE OF CITY THAT WE WANT TO LIVE
8:48:19PM IN.
8:48:20PM FIRE, AND I THINK I HEARD -- I DON'T THINK ANYBODY UP HERE
8:48:23PM IS AGAINST BUILDING THE FIRE STATIONS.
8:48:25PM I THINK WE SHOULD START THAT PROCESS.
8:48:27PM WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD ONE TOMORROW.
8:48:28PM BUT I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO PRIORITIZE.
8:48:30PM OBVIOUSLY, REFURBISHMENT, FIRE STATIONS, FOR THOSE OF YOU
8:48:34PM LISTENING, WE HAVE A LOT OF FIRE STATIONS THAT ARE IN REALLY
8:48:36PM BAD CONDITION.
8:48:37PM YOU HEARD ABOUT THE AGE OF THESE THINGS.
8:48:39PM WE HAVE TO REFURBISH.
8:48:40PM WE HAVE TO HIRE THE FIREFIGHTERS.
8:48:42PM WE HAVE TO ADD THE EQUIPMENT.
8:48:43PM YOU CAN'T DO IT ALL IN THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, BUT I THINK WE
8:48:46PM SHOULD START THE PROCESS.
8:48:47PM WE HAVE TO IDENTIFY, PROCURE THE LAND, FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY
8:48:50PM ARE GOING TO BE, PROCURE THE LAND, START THAT PROCESS, BUT,
8:48:53PM YOU KNOW, JUST SET EXPECTATIONS.
8:48:56PM A FIRE STATION IS NOT GOING TO HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING IN THE
8:48:59PM NEXT 12 MONTHS.
8:49:00PM I THINK WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET AND IN THE E-MAILS,
8:49:04PM EVERY ONE OF THEM SAYS $1.9 BILLION BUDGET.
8:49:07PM I THINK THAT'S REALLY MISINFORMATION OR A LITTLE MISLEADING
8:49:11PM BECAUSE YOU HAVE DISCRETIONARY SPENDING AND THEN YOU'VE GOT
8:49:15PM THE OBLIGATIONS.
8:49:16PM WE HAVE SALARIES, CRAs.
8:49:19PM WE HAVE DEBT SERVICES.
8:49:21PM WE HAVE THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
8:49:22PM WE'VE GOT ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL
8:49:26PM OVER.
8:49:26PM IT'S OBLIGATIONS.
8:49:27PM I THINK AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK POINTED OUT EARLIER, SHE'S
8:49:30PM SAYING RIGHT NOW, ONLY 34.9% OF THIS BUDGET IS IN THE
8:49:36PM GENERAL FUND.
8:49:36PM SO THAT'S ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
8:49:38PM AND THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME STUFF IN THERE, TOO, IT'S NOT
8:49:41PM NECESSARILY DISCRETIONARY.
8:49:43PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY SMALL PIECES.
8:49:46PM NOT $1.9 BILLION.
8:49:47PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A REALLY SMALL PIECE OF THAT.
8:49:50PM AGAIN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE ON THE CRAs, YOU SEE ALL OF
8:49:54PM THESE FANCY 5, 6 MILLION DOLLAR CONDOS GOING UP IN
8:49:59PM CHANNELSIDE AND DOWNTOWN AND NOW TAMPA HEIGHTS AND ALL THE
8:50:02PM DEVELOPMENT IN YBOR CITY, YOU THINK, WELL, HOW COME THAT
8:50:05PM ISN'T FUNDING ALL THESE THINGS IN THE CITY?
8:50:06PM BECAUSE WE CAN'T.
8:50:10PM OBLIGATION, SPEND MONEY OUT OF THE CRAs.
8:50:13PM AREAS LIKE NEW AM AT THAT, PARTS OF WEST TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA,
8:50:16PM SULPHUR SPRINGS, SO MANY OF THESE AREAS ARE STARVED FOR
8:50:21PM FUNDING OVER THESE YEARS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE REVENUE
8:50:24PM STREAMS THAT WE CAN SPEND THERE.
8:50:26PM TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE
8:50:30PM FLEXIBLE LIKE THAT.
8:50:31PM IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT, I THINK WE SHOULD
8:50:33PM PURSUE IT.
8:50:34PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
8:50:35PM I THINK LEGAL COUNSEL WILL REPORT BACK TO US SO WE CAN FIND
8:50:37PM OUT WHERE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE.
8:50:40PM IT'S THOSE HAND-TIED THINGS WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT.
8:50:44PM I THINK WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DISCRETION, WE APPROVE SOMETHING
8:50:50PM AND THEN THEY CAN SPEND ON ANYTHING, I THINK WE HAVE THE
8:50:52PM ABILITY TO EARMARK THINGS LIKE THIS.
8:50:55PM MAYBE AS WE GROW INTO THIS COUNCIL, WE HAVE A FEW YEARS TO
8:50:58PM DO THIS NOW, I THINK WE BECOME MORE AGGRESSIVE IN BEING ABLE
8:51:03PM TO DO THAT AND EARMARK AND TAG MONEY SO THAT WE KNOW FOR
8:51:06PM SURE WHEN WE'RE ALLOCATING X NUMBER OF DOLLARS, WE KNOW IT
8:51:09PM WILL BE SPENT ON X, Y, AND Z.
8:51:13PM THAT BEING SAID, AT OUR MEETING, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION,
8:51:16PM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT MOTIONS.
8:51:17PM ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE THAT WE HAVE A CITY COUNCIL
8:51:21PM BUDGET ANALYST.
8:51:25PM IT'S SOMETHING THAT -- CAN WE DO THAT AT THIS MEETING?
8:51:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN MAKE MOTIONS.
8:51:33PM >> AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
8:51:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A PREVIEW OF THINGS TO COME, I'LL MAKE THE
8:51:39PM MOTION.
8:51:40PM IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING.
8:51:41PM I KNOW THE COUNCIL PEOPLE TO MY RIGHT AND SOME TO THE LEFT
8:51:45PM HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE THIS YEAR, DON'T WANT TO STEAL
8:51:47PM ANYBODY'S THUNDER.
8:51:49PM THEY HAVE BEEN BEATING THE DRUM ABOUT IT.
8:51:51PM I THINK IT IS A GOOD BALANCE TO HAVE THAT.
8:51:53PM HONESTLY, I WAS AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER.
8:51:55PM I DIDN'T MAJOR IN ECONOMICS.
8:51:56PM AND GOING THROUGH THIS BUDGET IS DIFFICULT, AND THAT BEING
8:52:00PM SAID, I'M ALSO GOING TO -- I KNOW YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HATE
8:52:04PM THIS, HATE ME FOR IT -- AND I KNOW YOU LOVE THIS WEBSITE AND
8:52:08PM I KNOW IT'S REALLY GOOD FOR YOUR STAFF TO PUT THE DATA IN,
8:52:11PM I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, COME BACK AT ME IN 12 MONTHS WITH THIS.
8:52:15PM I AM NOT GOING TO BE A HAPPY CAMPER.
8:52:17PM WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A BUDGET BOOK ON BOTH THE SPENDING AND THE
8:52:22PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
8:52:25PM IT'S GOT TO BE DETAILED.
8:52:27PM IT'S GOT TO HAVE BREAKDOWNS.
8:52:29PM WE HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER PRODUCT TO BE BETTER STEWARDS OF
8:52:35PM THE PEOPLE'S MONEY.
8:52:36PM I'LL BRING THAT ONE BACK UP, TOO.
8:52:39PM JUST FYI.
8:52:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUDGET BOOK.
8:52:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND DETAILS.
8:52:43PM I LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE NOTES ON IT, TOO.
8:52:47PM THE OTHER THING IS THE CIT.
8:52:52PM THAT IS AN IMPORTANT POINT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS TALKING
8:52:54PM ABOUT.
8:52:54PM IT'S A COUNTYWIDE INITIATIVE AND NOT INITIATED BY US.
8:52:58PM I KNOW THE POLITICS OF IT.
8:53:01PM BUT IT'S A BIG QUESTION MARK.
8:53:02PM YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW.
8:53:04PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE
8:53:07PM ACTIONS TODAY BASED ON THAT UNKNOWN QUANTITY.
8:53:10PM I THINK WE SHOULD DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THE RIGHT
8:53:13PM REASONS TODAY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THEN THE THINGS NOT
8:53:17PM WITHIN OUR CONTROL THAT ARE COMING TOMORROW WE'LL DEAL WITH
8:53:20PM THOSE WHEN THEY COME.
8:53:21PM THANK YOU.
8:53:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
8:53:22PM LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
8:53:23PM IF YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN YET AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE
8:53:26PM LINE UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
8:53:28PM YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
8:53:45PM >> GOOD EVENING.
8:53:45PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
8:53:46PM I WAS HERE LATE BECAUSE I WAS OVER THERE FIGHTING BACK THE
8:53:50PM INVASION OF 5,000 MORE FRICKIN' APARTMENTS.
8:53:55PM A COUPLE OF THINGS.
8:53:57PM I MISSED SOME STUFF AND IF I MISSED IT AND I'M REPEATING
8:54:00PM SOMETHING, PLEASE JUST SCHWWW.
8:54:06PM TOOK US SIX DAYS TO GET THE WHOLE BUDGET.
8:54:09PM THAT'S A PROBLEM.
8:54:09PM I HAVEN'T FINISHED READING IT YET BECAUSE I HAVE TO HAVE A
8:54:12PM LIFE.
8:54:12PM I HAVE TO, LIKE, TAKE MY KIDS TO SCHOOL, THINGS LIKE THAT.
8:54:15PM I HAVEN'T FINISHED READING IT.
8:54:16PM NORMALLY, THAT TEN-DAY PERIOD, I WOULD HAVE HAD IT READ.
8:54:22PM THE EXACT NUMBER OF PAGES IN THE BUDGET, JUST LIKE
8:54:24PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN JUST SAID, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT
8:54:29PM IT'S ALL TOGETHER IN ONE PLACE.
8:54:30PM I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A PAPER COPY.
8:54:32PM I WANT IT DIGITALLY SO I KNOW IT'S ALL THERE, EVEN THOUGH
8:54:35PM THE THREE LINKS DID NOT HAVE EVERYTHING.
8:54:37PM BECAUSE I ASKED CHIEF BENNETT AND HE'S LIKE, OH, THERE ARE A
8:54:39PM COUPLE MORE PAGES.
8:54:41PM BOTTOM LINE IS CPI, WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT THAT.
8:54:44PM I'M FLABBERGASTED THAT ALL THE MEDIA TALKED ABOUT ALL KINDS
8:54:50PM OF STUFF, BUT WE SHOULDN'T TALK MUCH ABOUT THE FEES
8:54:54PM NEGLECTED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
8:54:56PM AND IF YOU WANT TO -- I HAVEN'T MADE UP MY MIND WHETHER OR
8:55:02PM NOT I SUPPORT THIS MILLAGE INCREASE.
8:55:04PM I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT MY PROPERTIES.
8:55:06PM I WAS KIND OF SHOCKED BECAUSE ALL OF MINE FALL INTO THE $20
8:55:10PM A MONTH THING.
8:55:10PM BUT 21% CAN EASILY BE RAISED TO 32%.
8:55:16PM IF YOU PULL OUT THE DOWNTOWN, THE CHANNELSIDE MONEY AND
8:55:19PM EARMARK IT ONLY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IN THAT AREA
8:55:24PM INSTEAD OF LET'S PILE 5.3 MILLION INTO THOSE TWO OR THREE
8:55:31PM CRAs, WHATEVER THEY ARE, THAT'S RIDICULOUS, WHEN THEY BOTH
8:55:35PM NEED FIRE STATIONS.
8:55:36PM SO LET'S NOT GIVE THAT DIRECTLY TO THE CRA AND JUST KEEP IT
8:55:41PM OUT AND ADD IT UP.
8:55:45PM THAT WOULD MAKE IT 14.96 MILLION.
8:55:48PM THAT WOULD GET US UP TO 32.
8:55:51PM IT WOULD AT LEAST GET US STARTED.
8:55:55PM IF BY CHANCE, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT PAGES OF THIS BIG, FAT
8:55:59PM BUDGET ALL OF THOSE INCREASES ARE ON.
8:56:01PM I DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL I WAS IN THE BUDGET MEETING LAST WEEK
8:56:04PM THAT ALL OF THE NUMBERS OVER HERE IN THE LAST COLUMN ALREADY
8:56:07PM INCLUDE THE MILLAGE.
8:56:08PM SO WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DOESN'T PASS?
8:56:11PM SANTA CLAUS IS NOT GOING TO COME AROUND AND GIVE THE MONEY
8:56:14PM OUT.
8:56:15PM SO WHERE ARE THE ORIGINAL NUMBERS?
8:56:16PM YOU CAN'T MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT WHETHER YOU THINK THAT'S
8:56:20PM IMPORTANT OR NOT UNTIL YOU SEE IS IT 15 PAGES OF THAT 377?
8:56:25PM IS IT FIVE PAGES?
8:56:26PM IS IT 100 PAGES.
8:56:29PM BUT UNTIL YOU KNOW HOW MANY PAGES WERE DIRECTLY IMPACTED AND
8:56:32PM WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING, HOW CAN YOU MAKE A DECISION?
8:56:35PM I KNOW I CAN'T MAKE A DECISION, AND I WANT TO READ THIS AND
8:56:38PM SPEND JUST AS MUCH TIME ON IT AS PROBABLY ALL OF YOU WILL.
8:56:41PM BUT I THINK THE NUMBER ONE THING WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS THAT
8:56:45PM CRA FUNDING FOR DOWNTOWN AND CHANNELSIDE NEEDS TO GO
8:56:49PM DIRECTLY INTO A FUND FOR PUBLIC SAFETY FOR THE FIRE STATIONS
8:56:52PM IN THOSE TWO AREAS, NOT INTO THEIR POCKETS OF DEVELOPERS.
8:56:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
8:56:58PM >> THAT 50 MILLION THAT WAS GIVEN AWAY BY CHANNELSIDE.
8:57:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
8:57:01PM YES, MA'AM.
8:57:03PM >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.
8:57:04PM FRAN TATE, JACKSON HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT.
8:57:11PM WE WANT TO GO ON RECORD SAYING THAT WE DO SUPPORT TPD, THE
8:57:15PM FIRE DEPARTMENT, PARKS AND RECREATION, AND PAL.
8:57:17PM OUR CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE.
8:57:20PM I HAD A QUESTION.
8:57:24PM FOUR YEARS AGO, MAYOR CASTOR CAME UP WITH THE PIPES PROGRAM
8:57:30PM INITIATIVE.
8:57:31PM AND IT WAS A $2.9 BILLION INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECT WHICH IT
8:57:39PM ADDRESSED THE PIPES, THE SEWAGE PIPES AND THE AGING --
8:57:44PM REPLACE AGING WATER AND SEWAGE PIPES IN EAST TAMPA,
8:57:48PM MacFARLANE PARK, FOREST HILLS AND VIRGINIA PARK.
8:57:52PM ALSO, IT WAS TO ALSO MODERNIZE SOME OF THE STREETS IN THOSE
8:57:56PM FOUR QUADRANTS.
8:57:57PM IS THE PROJECT FINISHED?
8:58:00PM IS THERE ANY MONEY LEFT OVER FROM THE PROJECT?
8:58:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FROM THE PIPES PROJECT?
8:58:05PM >> THE PIPES.
8:58:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S STILL IN THE BEGINNING PHASES.
8:58:08PM >> IT'S IN PHASES.
8:58:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S STILL AT THE BEGINNING OF
8:58:11PM EVERYTHING.
8:58:13PM >> OKAY.
8:58:13PM BECAUSE I KNOW THEY DID TAKE CARE OF SOME OF EAST TAMPA.
8:58:17PM MORE FUNDING FOR THAT PROGRAM IS COMING OUT OF THE BUDGET
8:58:25PM THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, CORRECT?
8:58:26PM IT'S A SEPARATE BUDGET.
8:58:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO, CAN YOU CLARIFY HOW THE
8:58:32PM PIPES FUNDING WORKS?
8:58:35PM >> THANK YOU.
8:58:36PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
8:58:36PM I'M JUST CONCERNED.
8:58:38PM WE TALKING ABOUT $2.9 BILLION.
8:58:42PM DID WE SPEND ALL OF THAT ALREADY?
8:58:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NOT YET.
8:58:47PM MR. ROGERO.
8:58:48PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
8:58:49PM HELLO, COUNCIL.
8:58:50PM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
8:58:52PM I WAS HERE TO ELABORATE.
8:58:55PM YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
8:58:56PM IT IS AN ONGOING PROJECT.
8:58:58PM IT'S GOT DECADES LEFT AND MUCH MORE DEBT ISSUANCES TO COME
8:59:01PM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
8:59:02PM IF WE CAN GET SPECIFICS ON THE PARTICULAR AREAS SHE WAS
8:59:08PM TALKING ABOUT, WE CAN PROVIDE NOT ONLY WHAT, IF ANYTHING,
8:59:12PM HAS BEEN DONE ALREADY, BUT WHAT IS TO COME AND PERHAPS A
8:59:15PM TIME FRAME.
8:59:16PM THE PIPES PROGRAM IS IN ITS INFANCY.
8:59:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH.
8:59:20PM BECAUSE I KNOW PROJECTS ARE 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD IN SOME
8:59:23PM PARTS, YES.
8:59:24PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
8:59:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
8:59:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, NEXT SPEAKER.
8:59:30PM >> HI.
8:59:31PM I'M PRISCILLA BARTLE.
8:59:33PM I LIVE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
8:59:35PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
8:59:36PM SOME ARE GOING TO BE FOR CITY COUNCIL AND SOME WILL BE ABOUT
8:59:39PM THE BUDGET SPECIFICALLY.
8:59:40PM SO I'M JUST GOING TO LIST THEM AND JUST IF THEY COULD
8:59:44PM POSSIBLY BE ANSWERED SOMEHOW AND PROVIDED LATER.
8:59:47PM SO FOR TRANSPORTATION, I WAS CURIOUS EAST WHAT THE REVENUE
8:59:50PM GENERATION WOULD BE FOR THE TAMPA VERSUS WHOEVER OWNS
8:59:54PM PARKING.
8:59:55PM IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS OWNER FOR CERTAIN PARKING LOTS.
8:59:58PM MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD THAT.
8:59:59PM AND THEN REGARDLESS OF THAT, I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT
9:00:03PM WHAT THAT REVENUE GENERATION WAS AND WHAT OPPORTUNITY, HOW
9:00:07PM MUCH THAT WOULD BE OVER DIFFERENT PERIODS OF TIME AND THEN
9:00:11PM WHAT THAT MONEY COULD BE ALLOCATED TO OR NOT ALLOCATED TO.
9:00:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PARKING IS AN ENTERPRISE.
9:00:17PM >> I'M SORRY.
9:00:18PM I HAVE ONLY THREE MINUTES.
9:00:19PM I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
9:00:20PM THANK YOU, THOUGH.
9:00:22PM SO WHAT WOULD -- THE NEXT THING WOULD BE HOW DID THE
9:00:26PM EXISTING PAVING DECISIONS GET DECIDED?
9:00:31PM I ONLY SAW TWO DISTRICTS THAT ACTUALLY HAD PAVING THAT'S
9:00:36PM TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW.
9:00:37PM AND THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT BEING EQUITABLE AND THINGS
9:00:41PM LIKE THAT, SO THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT INTERESTING TO ME THAT
9:00:44PM THAT'S ACTUALLY THE CASE.
9:00:45PM ALSO, JUST OVERALL, I WAS WONDERING WHY IS THERE A SOLUTION
9:00:50PM TO INCREASE TAXES OPPOSED TO MAYBE OTHER POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS?
9:00:56PM I KNOW THAT THERE WAS LIKE EVEN TALKS PREVIOUSLY ABOUT MAYBE
9:01:01PM DEVELOPER IMPACT COST, THINGS LIKE THAT AND MAYBE HOW THOSE
9:01:04PM COULD BE USED.
9:01:05PM I WONDER IF THAT GOES INTO SOME OF THE STATEMENT THAT WAS
9:01:08PM TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY AND MAYBE FUNDS CAN ONLY BE USED FOR
9:01:11PM CERTAIN AREAS OR ARE WE JUST NOT DOING THAT.
9:01:13PM I WAS KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT OTHER WAYS WE COULD GATHER
9:01:17PM MONEY.
9:01:18PM AND THEN FOR FIRE RESCUE, I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT THE
9:01:25PM DIFFERENCE WAS IN COST.
9:01:27PM I WAS NOTICING THERE WAS A HUGE DISPARITY AND DIFFERENCE
9:01:29PM BETWEEN THE 915K VERSUS WHEN I DIVIDED OUT THE COST BY 5 FOR
9:01:36PM LIKE THE 5 DIFFERENT BUILDINGS.
9:01:38PM I THINK IT COULD BE BECAUSE CERTAIN ONES WERE MAYBE A LITTLE
9:01:41PM OLDER, QUITE A BIT OLDER AND MAYBE NEEDED EXTRA CARE AND
9:01:45PM MAYBE THAT WAS THE COST.
9:01:46PM BUT I WAS WANTING TO MAKE SURE MY ASSUMPTIONS WERE CORRECT.
9:01:50PM POLICE, I WAS THINKING WAS REALLY INTERESTING, SIX YEARS
9:01:55PM DEFINITELY SEEMS LIKE AN INTERESTING WAY TO CLARIFY AS TO
9:01:59PM WHEN THE COST OF MAINTENANCE GOES UP.
9:02:01PM I WAS THINKING MAYBE IT WOULD BE MORE ABOUT THE ACTUAL
9:02:06PM MILEAGE.
9:02:07PM LIKE USUALLY ONCE YOU GET PAST A CERTAIN MILEAGE THRESHOLD,
9:02:11PM THAT'S WHERE IT GOES UP.
9:02:12PM I DID LIKE THE IDEA OF PARKS AND REC PROVIDING A SPACE FOR
9:02:15PM KIDS.
9:02:15PM I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
9:02:16PM I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT IS THE COST THAT PARKS AND REC IS
9:02:21PM EATING VERSUS WHAT IS BEING DONE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:02:24PM I WAS ALSO INTERESTED IN -- FOR.
9:02:33PM [BEEP]
9:02:35PM OKAY.
9:02:35PM THANK YOU.
9:02:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:02:38PM YES, MA'AM.
9:02:42PM >> HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER THE
9:02:47PM QUESTIONS AND YOU CAN E-MAIL THEM TO ME OR I CAN PROVIDE YOU
9:02:49PM WITH HER INFORMATION SO SHE CAN GET A RESPONSE TO GREAT
9:02:53PM QUESTIONS.
9:02:53PM HEY, EVERYBODY.
9:02:56PM ROBIN LOCKETT.
9:03:00PM THIS WILL BE QUICK.
9:03:01PM YOU ALL HAVE A TALKING POINT.
9:03:03PM ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION WAS NOT PASSED.
9:03:05PM ALL FOR TRANSPORTATION WAS NOT PASSED BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF
9:03:09PM TRANSPARENCY.
9:03:10PM PEOPLE WEREN'T BUYING INTO IT, RIGHT?
9:03:12PM THAT WAS ONE BIG REASON.
9:03:14PM THEY HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
9:03:16PM THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PASS IT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHERE
9:03:21PM OR HOW THE MONEY WAS GOING TO BE SPENT.
9:03:23PM THAT WAS THE WORD ON THE STREET, RIGHT?
9:03:24PM SO YOU KEEP SAYING THAT IN JUSTIFICATION OF PASSING THIS.
9:03:30PM AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF SCREWY TO ME.
9:03:33PM FIREHOUSES BEING BUILT, WE NEED HOUSING BEFORE WE NEED FIRE
9:03:43PM HOUSING.
9:03:43PM WE TALK ABOUT RESPONSE TIME FOR FIRE TRUCKS, I SAID THIS IN
9:03:49PM A MEETING THE OTHER DAY.
9:03:51PM IF I'M SITTING IN TRAFFIC, AND THIS DAWNED ON ME, AND FIRE
9:03:56PM RESCUE IS COMING, PEOPLE DON'T MOVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE
9:04:00PM NOWHERE TO MOVE IN TRAFFIC.
9:04:02PM IN REGARDS TO TECHNOLOGY, I THINK CHIEF TRIPP SPOKE ABOUT
9:04:05PM THIS TODAY.
9:04:06PM IN REGARDS TO TECHNOLOGY WHERE THEY HAVE A BUTTON THAT THEY
9:04:11PM CAN PUSH AND FORCE THE LIGHTS TO STAY GREEN, THAT WILL HELP
9:04:16PM WITH THE RESPONSE TIME.
9:04:19PM IN REGARDS TO ADDING PEOPLE, THE RESPONSE TIME.
9:04:21PM SO INVEST IN THAT TECHNOLOGY.
9:04:25PM WE NEED HOUSING.
9:04:27PM WHEN YOU IDENTIFY AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND EVERYBODY UP HERE
9:04:31PM TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND I SEE YOU -- I SEE
9:04:36PM EVERYBODY GOING SIDEWAYS IN REGARDS TO A CONVERSATION ABOUT
9:04:40PM IT, WE NEED HOUSING.
9:04:41PM WHATEVER NICOLE TRAVIS IS ASKING FOR, WE NEED IT.
9:04:45PM THEY ARE GOING TO RAISE THE RENT ANYHOW REGARDLESS.
9:04:51PM THEY HAVE BEEN.
9:04:51PM THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN THE SITUATION NOW.
9:04:54PM THE LAWS FROM TALLAHASSEE, HAVE THE LAWYERS LOOK AT WHAT WE
9:05:00PM CAN DO.
9:05:01PM THEY DIDN'T PREEMPT EVERYTHING.
9:05:03PM SO THERE ARE STILL OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO MAKE A DENT IN
9:05:07PM REGARDS TO PROTECTING RENTERS.
9:05:09PM TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING, YOU'RE
9:05:12PM TALKING ABOUT BUYING.
9:05:13PM EVERYBODY IS NOT ABLE TO BUY, EVEN WITH DOWN PAYMENT
9:05:16PM ASSISTANCE.
9:05:16PM SO LOOKING AT REALITY IN THIS STUFF AND JUST HAVE THE WILL
9:05:24PM OF THE PEOPLE AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
9:05:27PM THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING.
9:05:28PM HAVE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
9:05:31PM THE BUDGET IS VERY IMPORTANT.
9:05:32PM I REALLY PLAN ON DIVING INTO IT.
9:05:35PM OF COURSE, I HAVE QUESTIONS.
9:05:36PM I HAVE MEETINGS SET UP WITH MOST OF YOU.
9:05:39PM SOME OF YOU ALL HAVEN'T CALLED ME BACK, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO
9:05:42PM CALL YOUR NAME OUT.
9:05:43PM NOT TODAY.
9:05:44PM BUT I HAVE MEETINGS WITH MOST OF YOU GUYS, AND I DO WANT TO
9:05:49PM FIND OUT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO PUSH, WHAT FLORIDA RISING IS
9:05:52PM TRYING TO PUSH, AND HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER, BECAUSE WE
9:05:55PM HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
9:05:56PM THANK YOU.
9:05:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S NOT ME, IS IT.
9:05:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S NOT ME.
9:06:00PM I'M SCHEDULED.
9:06:01PM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:06:12PM >> YOU'RE ON MY CALENDAR.
9:06:13PM YEAH, YOU ARE.
9:06:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
9:06:15PM CHIEF BENNETT, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:06:21PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:06:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY ONE THING BEFORE THE PUBLIC
9:06:25PM LEAVES?
9:06:25PM IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS, THEY CAN E-MAIL US ALL AT
9:06:29PM TAMPACITYCOUNCIL@TAMPAGOV.NET, AND WE CAN FORWARD THE
9:06:33PM QUESTIONS TO STAFF TO HAVE THEM ANSWERED.
9:06:35PM THANK YOU.
9:06:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALSO, THERE IS A MEETING ON THE 23rd.
9:06:50PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO DO FOR ALL THE
9:06:52PM PEOPLE THAT ASKED QUESTIONS.
9:06:53PM A COMMUNITY WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 23rd FROM 5:30 P.M. TO
9:06:56PM 7 P.M. AT THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE.
9:06:59PM OF COURSE, WE DID IT THAT WAY SO COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION
9:07:02PM CAN WORK TOGETHER AND ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS IN
9:07:04PM THESE DIFFERENT AREAS.
9:07:06PM HOLISTICALLY ABOUT THE BUDGET.
9:07:08PM SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
9:07:11PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE, AGAIN, AUGUST 23rd, 5:30 TO 7 P.M.
9:07:15PM AT THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE.
9:07:17PM 1924 WEST DIANA STREET.
9:07:20PM AND THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REGISTER ON THE PUBLIC
9:07:24PM WEBSITE.
9:07:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:07:25PM THAT WOULD CONCLUDE THE MEETING UNLESS WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS,
9:07:32PM WHICH I BELIEVE WE DO.
9:07:33PM YES, MA'AM, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:07:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR NICOLE BASED
9:07:37PM ON THE COMMENCE THAT PEOPLE MADE.
9:07:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
9:07:39PM GO AHEAD.
9:07:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. TRAVIS.
9:07:46PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: FULL DISCLOSURE, IT'S AFTER MY BEDTIME.
9:07:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S CLOSE TO AFTER MY BEDTIME, TOO.
9:07:53PM I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD IT IN YOUR SLIDE, BUT I THINK
9:07:55PM IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO REALIZE AS WE DISCUSS HOUSING
9:07:58PM AND HOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE RIGHT NOW
9:08:01PM GET, BUT WE ARE.
9:08:04PM FROM THIS BUDGET, WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO HELP KEEP PEOPLE
9:08:06PM -- WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE BAND-AID ON FOR A
9:08:11PM COUPLE MORE YEARS AND THAT'S ALL WE NEED.
9:08:13PM WE DON'T NEED THE BAND-AID FOREVER BUT WE NEED A BAND-AID
9:08:15PM UNTIL WE GET SOME HOUSING BUILT.
9:08:17PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.
9:08:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE
9:08:20PM TO HELP THIS YEAR-ISH COMPARED TO LAST YEAR OR MONEY?
9:08:25PM HOWEVER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT.
9:08:28PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK GOODNESS FOR KAYON PREDICTING YOU
9:08:32PM WOULD PROBABLY ASK ME THIS QUESTION.
9:08:33PM I'LL PUT SOMETHING ON THE ELMO FOR YOU.
9:08:41PM CAN YOU SEE THAT OKAY?
9:08:43PM IF THE 1 MILL IS ADOPTED, SO THIS IS SHOWING YOU HOW WE
9:08:51PM WOULD BREAK DOWN THE DIFFERENT HOW OLD THAT WOULD BE
9:08:55PM ASSISTED.
9:08:56PM WE TRIED TO KEEP IT IN THE SAME BUCKET FORMAT THAT YOU BEEN
9:09:00PM LOOKING AT.
9:09:01PM WE HAVE A DEEPER DIVE.
9:09:03PM I THINK I SHARED WHAT THAT EXCEL SPREADSHEET LOOKS LIKE.
9:09:08PM HOW MUCH DO IN ACQUISITIONS, REHAB, HOME OWNERSHIP, RENTAL
9:09:11PM ASSISTANCE.
9:09:12PM SO THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE, REALLY THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE
9:09:15PM TALKING ABOUT, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THAT IF THAT MONEY
9:09:19PM BECOMES AVAILABLE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY HELP
9:09:22PM PEOPLE WITH THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND THE REHAB AND KEEPING
9:09:25PM PEOPLE HOUSING STABLE.
9:09:27PM HERE IS YOUR DO-NOTHING SLIDE.
9:09:29PM IF WE DO NOT GET THE MILLAGE INCREASE, THE FULL MILL
9:09:39PM INCREASE, THIS IS HOW MANY HOUSEHOLDS THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO
9:09:46PM HELP REGARDING RENTAL ASSISTANCE AT 300 HOUSEHOLDS, REHAB
9:09:51PM ABOUT 60 HOUSEHOLDS.
9:09:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU SLIDE THAT SO WE CAN KIND OF SEE
9:09:55PM BOTH.
9:09:56PM LIKE SLIDE THIS ONE TO THE LEFT AND THAT ONE TO THE RIGHT,
9:09:59PM MAYBE FOLD IT OVER A LITTLE BIT.
9:10:01PM IF THE T & I FOLKS CAN ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN SEE
9:10:08PM KIND OF BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
9:10:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 7,000 VERSUS 2,000, ESTIMATE.
9:10:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, THAT'S ABOUT LIGHT.
9:10:18PM MY FIRST COMMENT IS, WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE A LOT MORE MONEY TO
9:10:23PM THE HOMELESS ISSUES.
9:10:26PM IF WE CAN ONLY HELP 300 HOUSEHOLDS, THAT'S GOING TO BE 3100
9:10:30PM HOUSEHOLDS WHO ARE GOING TO BE OUT ON THE STREET.
9:10:32PM I'M SORRY.
9:10:35PM RENTAL -- YES, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'LL HAVE TO INCREASE
9:10:38PM HOMELESS BECAUSE A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE RENTAL
9:10:42PM ASSISTANCE ARE GOING TO BE HOMELESS.
9:10:44PM THEY ARE GOING TO BE LIVING IN CARS BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY
9:10:46PM NO PLACE EVEN IN THE COUNTY FOR THESE PEOPLE TO MOVE.
9:10:48PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SO A BIG PART OF THE STUDY -- SINCE LAST
9:10:53PM YEAR WE'VE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ON HOUSING STRATEGIES AND
9:10:57PM HOW WE CAN TRULY TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED.
9:11:01PM WHAT WE DO NOT HAVE IN TAMPA IS TEMPORARY HOUSING.
9:11:05PM WE DO NOT HAVE TEMPORARY HOUSING, AND THAT DOESN'T ALLOW US
9:11:09PM TO PUT PEOPLE -- SO WE HAVE TAMPA HOPE AND TAMPA HOPE IS
9:11:13PM COMPLETELY FULL.
9:11:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR SINGLES.
9:11:16PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S FOR SINGLE PEOPLE.
9:11:18PM IT DOESN'T SERVE FAMILIES, CORRECT.
9:11:19PM SO THERE IS NO TEMPORARY HOUSING WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET
9:11:24PM PEOPLE TRANSITIONED AND HAVE A PLACE FOR THEM TO STAY UNTIL
9:11:26PM THEY FIND PERMANENT HOUSING.
9:11:28PM WITH SOME OF THE ACQUISITION FUNDS, THAT WILL HELP, YOU'RE
9:11:32PM LOOKING AT RENTAL ASSISTANCE BUT SOME OF THAT ACQUISITION
9:11:35PM MONEY WOULD HELP WITH THAT.
9:11:36PM IT'S ALL STRATEGY TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A HOLISTIC APPROACH
9:11:42PM TO HOUSING.
9:11:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:11:44PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
9:11:44PM I TRULY BELIEVE THAT WHILE I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN VIERA'S
9:11:51PM POINT ABOUT CUTS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CUTS.
9:11:56PM I THINK WE ARE.
9:11:57PM BECAUSE IF WE DON'T INCREASE THIS, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
9:12:00PM FUNDING
9:12:01PM TO EVEN FUND WHAT WE HAVE NOW, AND MR. ROGERO HAS MADE THAT
9:12:05PM PRETTY CLEAR.
9:12:06PM SO I DO THINK WE ALL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS BUDGET WITH A
9:12:10PM FINE-TOOTH COMB IF WE WANT TO REDUCE ANYTHING.
9:12:14PM I'M NOT WILLING TO REDUCE HOUSING ONE BIT.
9:12:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL INDICATED --
9:12:22PM [INAUDIBLE]
9:12:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
9:12:26PM THIS IS WHAT WE CAMPAIGNED ON.
9:12:27PM IT WAS THIS AND ROADS.
9:12:29PM AND SIDEWALKS.
9:12:33PM BUT THIS IS WHAT DRIVES OUR CITY.
9:12:38PM AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON SAID, IT'S ABOUT ECONOMICS,
9:12:42PM BUT IF WE CAN'T HOUSE PEOPLE, WE CAN'T BUILD THE ECONOMIC
9:12:48PM ENGINE WE WANT TO BUILD.
9:12:49PM I REALLY FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE ROOT AND THE TREE OF THE
9:12:51PM BUDGET, AND --
9:12:54PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I DON'T DISAGREE.
9:12:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF IT TAKES A MILL, IT TAKES A MILL.
9:13:00PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MAY I MAKE A COMMENT?
9:13:01PM BECAUSE I'M HANGRY AND PAST MY BEDTIME, I'LL SAY IT ANYWAY,
9:13:08PM RIGHT?
9:13:08PM OVER THE LAST YEAR I'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU WITH THE INCREDIBLE
9:13:11PM TEAM BEHIND ME.
9:13:13PM YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN -- AWARD-WINNING TEAM, THAT'S RIGHT.
9:13:16PM YOU'VE BEEN ASKING US TO FIND WAYS AND FIND SOLUTIONS
9:13:24PM REGARDING HOUSING AFFORDABILITY.
9:13:26PM AND AROUND THIS TIME LAST YEAR OR BEFORE THE BUDGET YEAR, I
9:13:30PM THINK IT WAS LIKE IN MARCH, I KEPT SAYING GIVE ME A LITTLE
9:13:35PM TIME.
9:13:35PM GIVE ME A LITTLE TEAM.
9:13:37PM LET ME GET THE TEAM.
9:13:38PM GET THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT TOGETHER, LET'S ASSESS WHAT
9:13:41PM WE NEED.
9:13:42PM LET US UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH FUNDING WE'RE GETTING, WHERE IT'S
9:13:45PM GOING, HOW MANY UNITS WE CAN BUY BECAUSE THAT'S ULTIMATELY
9:13:48PM HOW WE END UP WITH THE BUCKET LIST, RIGHT.
9:13:51PM I BROUGHT TO THIS COUNCIL POLICY DECISIONS THAT DEAL WITH
9:13:56PM HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND SOMETIMES COUNCIL DECIDED NOT TO
9:14:00PM ACT ON THOSE POLICY DECISIONS.
9:14:03PM WE BROUGHT LIVE LOCAL BEFORE YOU SHOWING YOU WHAT THE STATE
9:14:09PM HAS GRANTED WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FROM STAFF AND NOT ALL OF
9:14:12PM THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU.
9:14:14PM I'VE CONSTANTLY BROUGHT THINGS BEFORE YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE
9:14:17PM ASKED WHAT DO YOU DO.
9:14:19PM THIS IS THE ASK.
9:14:20PM IF YOU DO NOT INVEST IN HOUSING NOW, IT WILL NOT BE ANY
9:14:24PM BETTER NEXT YEAR.
9:14:26PM YOUR COMMUNITY WILL SUFFER SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE LACK OF
9:14:30PM HOUSING AFFORDABILITY IN THIS COMMUNITY AND IT WILL BE A
9:14:32PM DETRIMENT TO THIS ECONOMY.
9:14:34PM I'M SAYING IT AS NICELY AS I CAN EVEN THOUGH I'M HANGRY AND
9:14:43PM TIRED.
9:14:43PM I'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU AND BROUGHT EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE
9:14:45PM ASKED US TO DO.
9:14:47PM SOME THINGS YOU HAVE NOT ACTED ON, AND I HAVE BEEN -- I SAID
9:14:54PM I SEEM NOT AS PASSIONATE ABOUT HOUSING ANYMORE, IT'S NOT
9:14:58PM THAT.
9:14:58PM WE KEEP COMING BEFORE YOU AND TELLING YOU WHAT WE NEED, WE
9:15:01PM BROUGHT POLICY FOR YOU TO ACT ON AND YOU HAVE NOT ACTED ON
9:15:04PM IT.
9:15:04PM I'M SHOWING YOU WHAT WE NEED.
9:15:08PM WE HAVE A PLAN FOR IT AND I'M ASKING FOR YOUR INDULGENCE TO
9:15:12PM SUPPORT THE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:15:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:15:28PM NEW BUSINESS?
9:15:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD SAYING IT IS
9:15:34PM PAST MY MARTINI TIME AND THAT TRUMPS PAST BEDTIME OR DINNER
9:15:39PM TIME.
9:15:40PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, I FEEL LIKE I'M STEALING YOUR THUNDER.
9:15:43PM I WOULD DEFER TO YOU IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION ON
9:15:46PM THE BUDGET ANALYST.
9:15:48PM I JUST KNOW COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS BEEN A LONGTIME ADVOCATE
9:15:57PM OF THAT.
9:15:58PM BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL AND I WATCHED IT.
9:16:02PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THIS ISN'T
9:16:05PM MY IDEA.
9:16:06PM IT IS IN THE RULES.
9:16:07PM IT NEEDS TO BE BUDGETED.
9:16:08PM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IN FISCAL YEAR 2024 THAT THE
9:16:14PM BUDGET INCLUDE A POSITION FOR CITY COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYST.
9:16:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
9:16:21PM I'LL LET HIM SECOND.
9:16:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
9:16:24PM CLENDENIN WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:16:27PM COUNCIL WOMAN HENDERSON.
9:16:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IN DOING SO, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR
9:16:32PM THIS?
9:16:32PM ARE WE THINKING ABOUT?
9:16:34PM ALSO, HOW WILL WE MAKE THE DECISION, HR, AND THEN WE DECIDE
9:16:39PM ON THAT PERSON?
9:16:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT
9:16:43PM BUDGETING IT, HOLDING THE FUNDS AND THEN WE CAN WORK THE
9:16:45PM DETAILS AS FAR AS WHAT THAT POSITION ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE FOR
9:16:49PM FUTURE, AS A FUTURE DISCUSSION.
9:16:51PM BUT RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST EARMARKING THE FUNDS, HOLDING THAT
9:16:54PM POSITION SO THAT WHEN, IF WE TAKE ACTION, THE MONEY IS
9:16:57PM ACTUALLY A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET.
9:17:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ACTUALLY HAVE THAT BUDGET, AND IT SEEMS
9:17:03PM LIKE WE HAVE ROOM ALREADY IN THE BUDGET FOR IT, BUT WE
9:17:06PM SHOULD DOUBLE CHECK.
9:17:07PM ALSO, OUR OPERATING COST FOR SOME REASON DOUBLED THIS YEAR.
9:17:10PM CITY COUNCIL WENT FROM 175,000 TO 335,000.
9:17:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL MY COMMENDATION PLAQUES.
9:17:20PM JUST KIDDING.
9:17:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO KNOW WHY THAT INCREASE IS THERE
9:17:23PM BECAUSE THAT'S AN AREA WE CAN CERTAINLY CUT.
9:17:26PM THE PERSONNEL AND OPERATIONS ARE DIFFERENT.
9:17:31PM SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF NOBODY EXPLAINS TO ME WHY THE
9:17:36PM OPERATION COSTS ARE SO HIGH, WE CAN CERTAINLY MOVE A LITTLE
9:17:38PM BIT OF THAT MONEY INTO PERSONNEL TO COVER THAT BUDGET
9:17:41PM ANALYST AND THEN GIVE THE REST BACK.
9:17:46PM AGAIN, IT'S NOT PERSONNEL.
9:17:48PM IT'S OPERATING.
9:17:49PM OPERATING WOULD BE HOW WE ALL LIKE PAY FOR AND -- PAPER AND
9:17:59PM CHAIRS.
9:18:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAYING BACK TO THE POINT ON THE FLOOR.
9:18:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION -- YES.
9:18:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU LEAVING IT TO THE
9:18:09PM ADMINISTRATION TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH MONEY IS GOING TO BE
9:18:11PM BUDGETED FOR THAT IN THAT POSITION?
9:18:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU KNOW, I GUESS AT THIS POINT FOR FTE, I
9:18:17PM THINK I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THEIR EXPERTISE TO KNOW WHAT
9:18:20PM THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
9:18:21PM I THINK DENNIS IS FULLY EQUIPPED TO COME UP WITH A DOLLAR
9:18:26PM FIGURE.
9:18:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE NO OTHER BUDGET ANALYSTS?
9:18:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN THE BUDGET OFFICE PERHAPS THERE IS, BUT
9:18:37PM IN TERMS OF CITY COUNCIL --
9:18:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT CITY COUNCIL, BUT HE WOULD HAVE A
9:18:40PM BALLPARK BASED ON THE OTHER BUDGET ANALYST.
9:18:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
9:18:47PM MIGHT I SUGGEST THAT MAKE THE MOTION TO ADD THE FTE AND THEN
9:18:54PM AS SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID, ABSOLUTELY, WE'VE GOT A
9:18:57PM STAFF OF BUDGET ANALYSTS AND WE COULD OFFER YOU A COUPLE OF
9:19:00PM DIFFERENT OPTIONS IN TERMS OF LEVEL OF BUDGET ANALYST.
9:19:03PM AND AT LEAST GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST
9:19:06PM FULLY LOADED, NOT JUST SALARY, BUT COMPENSATION, ET CETERA,
9:19:10PM ET CETERA.
9:19:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, COULD YOU ADD A
9:19:17PM SECTION THAT WOULD SAY "AND FOR STAFF TO REPORT BACK ON A
9:19:20PM CERTAIN DATE AS TO HOW TO ENGAGE THE PERSON."
9:19:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL ACCEPT THAT, FIRST READING, I'LL
9:19:28PM ACCEPT THAT AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
9:19:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FIRST BUDGET HEARING, YES.
9:19:31PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:19:32PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:19:34PM VIERA.
9:19:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
9:19:36PM THANK YOU.
9:19:36PM VERY BRIEFLY I WANTED TO SAY THIS WAS BROUGHT UP MAYBE THREE
9:19:43PM YEARS AGO I THINK IT WAS BY COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER AND BY
9:19:47PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AS WELL AND I VOTED AGAINST IT.
9:19:49PM I'M EXPLAINING WHY I'M FLIPPING BECAUSE I ALWAYS LIKE TO DO
9:19:52PM THAT.
9:19:52PM WE DO NEED THIS.
9:19:54PM AND I THINK THAT THE YEARS HAVE SHOWN THAT I WAS WRONG IN
9:19:57PM THAT REGARD.
9:19:58PM I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT IT.
9:20:00PM I DID WANT TO SAY AND ALSO MENTION AS WELL COUNCILMAN
9:20:03PM DINGFELDER, AGAIN TO SAY I DID VOTE AGAINST THIS AND I THINK
9:20:07PM THE YEARS HAVE SHOWN THAT I WAS INCORRECT IN THAT REGARD.
9:20:09PM SO THANK YOU.
9:20:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T BELIEVE YOU ARE INCORRECT.
9:20:12PM IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU HIRE.
9:20:14PM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:20:14PM I HAD TO FIRE TWO BECAUSE THEY WERE SLEEPING IN THE ROOM.
9:20:20PM I'M TELLING YOU THE FACTS.
9:20:23PM WE HAD BUDGET ANALYSTS BEFORE.
9:20:27PM THEY WOULD SLEEP.
9:20:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COULD IT BE CONTRACT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME?
9:20:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK RIGHT NOW IT IS AN EARMARK.
9:20:37PM WHETHER CONTRACT, WHETHER FTE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO
9:20:40PM EARMARK FOR THE FULL COST.
9:20:42PM WE CAN ALWAYS PULL BACK, BUT TO HAVE IT THERE SO WE CAN WORK
9:20:45PM OUT THE DAYLIGHTS.
9:20:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
9:20:47PM >> AYE.
9:20:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OPPOSED?
9:20:48PM VIERA.
9:20:54PM >> SO YOU ARE SUPPORTING.
9:20:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YES.
9:20:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
9:21:01PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:21:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE 2024
9:21:07PM BUDGET BE PRESENTED TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, DETAILED BUDGET
9:21:10PM BOOK, COULD BE PDF, ADVANCE REQUEST THAT I WANT A PRINTED
9:21:16PM VERSION, WITH A DETAILED BREAKDOWN OF LINE ITEMS SUFFICIENT
9:21:19PM ENOUGH THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE APPROPRIATE DECISIONS ON
9:21:24PM SPENDING BY DEPARTMENT.
9:21:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CLARIFICATION, DID YOU MEAN FY '2024 OR
9:21:35PM 2025?
9:21:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FY 2025, PRESENTED TO US IN 2024.
9:21:41PM THIS IS NEXT YEAR.
9:21:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND, BUT I HAVE AN AMENDMENT.
9:21:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
9:21:49PM HURTAK.
9:21:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE SHOULD ADD THAT THE
9:21:53PM PRINTED EDITION SHOULD BE IN 7-POINT TYPE.
9:21:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALSO CLARIFY, NOT JUST BUDGET BUT ALSO THE
9:22:01PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
9:22:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ENTIRE BUDGET.
9:22:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THAT INCLUDE THE BUDGET SUPPLEMENT
9:22:05PM THAT IS INCLUDED.
9:22:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EVERYTHING.
9:22:07PM THE WHOLE KIT AND CABOODLE.
9:22:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHOLE SHEBANG.
9:22:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO NOT HAVE
9:22:14PM THE WORD OTHER INCLUDED AT ALL.
9:22:16PM LIKE, THERE'S LIKE MILLIONS, TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN
9:22:21PM AN "OTHER" COLUMN FOR ALMOST EVERY SECTION.
9:22:24PM WE ABSOLUTELY NEED -- "OTHER" SHOULD BE USED FOR SOMETHING
9:22:30PM WAY LESS THAN A MILLION DOLLARS.
9:22:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO YOU USE THAT FOR CONTINGENCY PURPOSES,
9:22:35PM MR. ROGERO?
9:22:36PM IS THERE A PERCENTAGE FOR CONTINGENCY REASONS?
9:22:40PM WHY DO YOU DO IT?
9:22:42PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO, MA'AM.
9:22:43PM WE DO IT FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
9:22:45PM FIRST TO COMPLY WITH THE CHARTER.
9:22:46PM THE CHARTER HAS MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
9:22:48PM SOME OF IT, IN MY OPINION, IS A LITTLE ANACHRONISTIC.
9:22:54PM BUT IT ORIGINATED -- THOSE CHARTER REQUIREMENTS ORIGINATED
9:22:57PM WHEN WE USED TO PUBLISH A COMPLETE LINE ITEM BUDGET OF THE
9:23:00PM ENTIRETY OF THE CITY.
9:23:01PM SINCE THEN, THE BEST PRACTICE HAS BEEN TO MOVE AWAY FROM
9:23:04PM THAT TO A PERFORMANCE-BASED, PROGRAM-BASED BUDGET, AND
9:23:08PM THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE NOW.
9:23:09PM THERE ARE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT ON THAT.
9:23:11PM AND "OTHER" IS A SUBCATEGORY INCLUDED IN THE STATE CHART OF
9:23:16PM ACCOUNTS, STATE OF FLORIDA CHART OF ACCOUNTS.
9:23:19PM THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH.
9:23:21PM EARLIER THIS EVENING, THE PARKING AMOUNT OF 15, 20 MILLION
9:23:28PM DOLLARS WAS BROUGHT UP, AND THAT'S THE GOOD EXAMPLE OF
9:23:32PM OTHER.
9:23:32PM INTERFUND TRANSFER FROM A FUND THAT CLOSES EVERY YEAR TO A
9:23:35PM FUND THAT CONTINUES, BUT DON'T GET ME WRONG, IT'S CERTAINLY
9:23:40PM NOT CLEAR IN THAT PARTICULAR PRINTOUT, BUT IT IS CLEAR IN
9:23:43PM OTHER PORTIONS OF THE BUDGET, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT
9:23:46PM PARTICULAR PORTION, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.
9:23:47PM IT'S A SUBCATEGORY THAT HAS DETAILED LINE ITEMS BELOW IT,
9:23:52PM BUT IT'S ALL, AGAIN, I WANT TO STRESS IT'S ALL IN ACCORDANCE
9:23:55PM WITH THE STATE CHART OF ACCOUNTS.
9:23:59PM AND OTHER IS THE BANE OF MY EXISTENCE BECAUSE OF THESE
9:24:03PM DISCUSSIONS.
9:24:04PM SO I CAN CERTAINLY SEE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC'S PERSPECTIVE
9:24:10PM ON THAT DESCRIPTION.
9:24:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CLARIFICATION FOR EVERY LINE ITEM, MR.
9:24:14PM CLENDENIN, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT EVERY SALARY OF EVERY
9:24:16PM PERSONNEL?
9:24:17PM LIKE EVERY SINGLE LINE.
9:24:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, THEY ARE AVAILABLE.
9:24:21PM YOU CAN FIND THEM.
9:24:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU WANT ALL OF THAT?
9:24:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK SINCE WE HAVE THE FIDUCIARY
9:24:27PM RESPONSIBILITY OF PASSING THE BUDGET FOR THE CITY, SO THE
9:24:29PM MAYOR OBVIOUSLY AND STAFF PRESENTS US THIS BUDGET, WE HAVE
9:24:33PM THE OBLIGATION TO GO THROUGH AND REALLY DO A THOROUGH
9:24:38PM LINE-BY-LINE EVALUATION SO WHEN WE HAVE THE QUESTIONS, LIKE
9:24:41PM WE'VE HAD ON THE DAIS TODAY, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS SOMETHING,
9:24:44PM LIKE, WHEN DO YOU START?
9:24:46PM THIS IS SOMETHING WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE STARTED YEARS AGO.
9:24:48PM CAN'T GO BACK.
9:24:49PM TOO LATE MAYBE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR BUT WE HAVE TO START
9:24:53PM SOMEWHERE.
9:24:53PM THAT'S WHY IT IS ADVANCED NOTICE THAT NEXT YEAR I'M LOOKING
9:24:57PM FORWARD TO MEETING THAT RESPONSIBILITY AS A MEMBER OF CITY
9:25:00PM COUNCIL TO GO THROUGH THAT BUDGET LINE BY LINE.
9:25:04PM BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE PASSING,
9:25:08PM SPENDING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE
9:25:10PM SPENDING IT RESPONSIBLY.
9:25:12PM I WANT TO LOOK AT THAT LINE BY LINE.
9:25:15PM EXACTLY.
9:25:15PM I PAY TAXES.
9:25:16PM IT IS MY MONEY, TOO.
9:25:17PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE AS WE GO THROUGH THAT.
9:25:19PM I APPRECIATE, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S MORE WORK, AND I KNOW
9:25:22PM THAT IT PROVIDES A LOT MORE PUBLIC SCRUTINY.
9:25:26PM SO I GET THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT,
9:25:30PM ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO INVEST MORE IN THEIR
9:25:32PM CITY.
9:25:32PM I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK FORWARD TO AND I THINK
9:25:35PM IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL REALLY HELP WITH THE GOVERNANCE OF
9:25:37PM THE CITY AND GOOD BUDGETARY DECISIONS.
9:25:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:25:43PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:25:43PM AYE.
9:25:45PM ANY OPPOSED?
9:25:45PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
9:25:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, I'M DONE.
9:25:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, DID YOU HAVE A MOTION?
9:25:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST ONE.
9:25:52PM THANK YOU.
9:25:52PM I DO MOTION AS I INDICATED FOR THE FIRE STATIONS.
9:25:56PM POTENTIAL FIRE STATIONS, SO K-BAR RANCH, IF YOU ALL WANT
9:26:00PM THIS FEEL FREE.
9:26:02PM AGAIN, IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, 2023 PROJECTS INCLUDED FIRE
9:26:07PM STATION 24, AND THERE WAS FISCAL YEAR '23, $11 MILLION THAT
9:26:12PM HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN FORESEEABLY ALLOCATED FOR THAT YEAR FOR
9:26:17PM '24.
9:26:18PM IT SAYS HERE K-BAR RANCH AREA.
9:26:20PM HAVING A CITY OF TAMPA BUDGET THAT ASKS THE CITY TO PAY MORE
9:26:23PM AND YET DOESN'T INCLUDE BEGINNING THE STEPS FOR A SINGLE
9:26:27PM FIRE STATION IS TO ME AWFUL, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE,
9:26:30PM AGAIN, THE COUNTY'S PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN DONE BY THE
9:26:34PM COUNTY.
9:26:34PM THAT'S MANAGEMENT, 28 FIRE STATIONS.
9:26:36PM SO MY MOTION WOULD BE TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION COME BACK
9:26:40PM IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THIS DOESN'T TAKE A WHOLE TON OF
9:26:44PM MONEY.
9:26:44PM LIKE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN SAID, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT FIRE
9:26:47PM STATIONS IN ONE YEAR.
9:26:48PM THIS IS A PROCESS, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE NOW.
9:26:50PM FOR THE FOLLOWING THREE STATIONS, WHICH IS DOWNTOWN, NORTH
9:26:55PM OF TAMPA, I KNOW THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IS LOOKING INTO
9:26:59PM THAT AND CHIEF TRIPP CONTINUES TO DO A WONDERFUL JOB WITH
9:27:02PM THAT AND WITH OTHER THINGS WITH FIRE AND WE'RE VERY
9:27:05PM APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
9:27:05PM AND THEN FOR K-BAR RANCH.
9:27:07PM IT COULD BE LAND ACQUISITION AND DESIGN FUNDS, WHICH ARE
9:27:11PM MUCH MORE LIMITED, BUT WE HAVE TO START RIGHT NOW.
9:27:14PM AND I PROMISE YOU THAT IF THIS PASSES AND GETS IN THE
9:27:17PM BUDGET, WE WILL FOLLOW UP ON IT.
9:27:19PM BECAUSE THINGS GET PASSED IN THE BUDGET, YOU DON'T KEEP
9:27:22PM AHOLD OF THEM, THEY GET LOST, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO,
9:27:25PM BECAUSE LOOK AT THIS, LOOK AT THIS.
9:27:27PM SO THAT'S MY MOTION.
9:27:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
9:27:34PM >> SECOND.
9:27:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GUESS DISCUSSION.
9:27:39PM I'M NOT SURE THAT I'VE HAD ENOUGH INFORMATION TO KNOW THAT
9:27:45PM -- I KNOW K-BAR -- I THINK EVEN THE CHIEF HAD PREVIOUSLY
9:27:49PM ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE PROBABLY IS A NEED FOR THAT.
9:27:52PM WHAT ARE THE OTHER TWO?
9:27:52PM DOWNTOWN AND THE OTHER ONE?
9:27:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
9:27:55PM THIS IS K-BAR RANCH.
9:27:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WREN STRAIT OR A NEW ONE?
9:28:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
9:28:01PM ADDITIONAL ONE, CHANNELSIDE.
9:28:03PM IF YOU TAKE A LOOK DOWNTOWN AND AGAIN RELY ON THE NUMBERS
9:28:07PM LOCAL 754 HAS GIVEN US, WE HAVE ONE DOWNTOWN FIRE STATION 25
9:28:11PM YEARS AGO.
9:28:12PM WE HAVE ONE TODAY.
9:28:12PM THE UNION HAS BEEN VERY, VERY ADAMANT ON THAT.
9:28:15PM BY THE WAY, IF YOU WANT TO SUPPORT THIS AND GO, HEY, LISTEN,
9:28:18PM TWO WEEKS LATER, HEY, VIERA, COME UP WITH ADDITIONAL
9:28:20PM INFORMATION, THAT'S FINE.
9:28:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS FAR AS LIKE LOCATION IDENTIFICATION,
9:28:25PM ARE WE THERE YET?
9:28:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, WE'RE NOT.
9:28:28PM TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, WE'RE NOT.
9:28:29PM AND THEN FOR NORTH TAMPA, THEY ARE LOOKING AT A PARTICULAR
9:28:32PM PLACE OFF FOWLER FOR THAT.
9:28:34PM BUT I THINK IT SHOULD GET STARTED IN THIS BUDGET.
9:28:37PM AND THAT WOULD HELP STATION 13 WHICH RECENTLY WAS THE 54th
9:28:41PM BUSIEST STATION IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
9:28:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COULD WE NARROW IT DOWN TO TWO BECAUSE
9:28:46PM KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THREE RIGHT
9:28:48PM AWAY ANYWAYS, SO WHAT ARE THE TOP TWO?
9:28:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:28:52PM I CAN LEAVE IT TO THEM IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY WILL
9:28:54PM PRIORITIZE.
9:28:55PM BECAUSE THERE'S DESIGN, THERE'S PROPERTY ACQUISITION,
9:28:57PM ET CETERA.
9:28:57PM SO I CAN LEAVE IT UP TO THEM.
9:28:59PM AGAIN, I'M NOT A FIREFIGHTER.
9:29:01PM I'M JUST AN OVERWEIGHT ATTORNEY.
9:29:02PM YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
9:29:04PM SO THERE YOU GO.
9:29:04PM THAT'S MY MOTION.
9:29:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. SHELBY.
9:29:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, IF I CAN, MR. VIERA, YOU RAISE A
9:29:11PM VERY INTERESTING ISSUE HERE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THE
9:29:14PM PAPER YOU HAVE, THOSE FIRE STATIONS, OR AT LEAST THAT
9:29:18PM PARTICULAR ONE AT K-BAR, WAS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
9:29:21PM PLAN.
9:29:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT WOULD APPEAR SO GIVEN IT SAYS HERE,
9:29:26PM DISTRICT 7 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET INCLUDES FIRE STATION
9:29:29PM 24, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED HERE AS K-BAR RANCH.
9:29:32PM AND, AGAIN, WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST, I'M NOT HERE TO WHINE
9:29:36PM ABOUT THAT OR ANYTHING, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE FUTURE.
9:29:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BUT WHAT THAT SAYS, IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT
9:29:40PM YOU'RE SAYING, IS THAT AT SOME POINT IN TIME, CITY COUNCIL
9:29:44PM APPROVED A FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN THAT
9:29:47PM CONTEMPLATED THAT, AND SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE IT'S NO
9:29:52PM LONGER IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, SO THE QUESTION THAT
9:29:55PM I'M RAISING TO YOU IS WHAT YOU ARE DISCUSSING IMPLICATES THE
9:30:03PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
9:30:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T WANT TO COMPLICATE IT BY GOING THERE.
9:30:06PM MY MOTION IS SOLELY TO HAVE THE AFOREMENTIONED THREE AREAS
9:30:09PM FOR FIRE STATIONS TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR,
9:30:12PM AT THE VERY LEAST, DESIGN AND POTENTIALLY LAND ACQUISITION
9:30:14PM TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT THAT FOR THOSE THREE AREAS.
9:30:18PM THAT'S ALL.
9:30:19PM THAT'S IT.
9:30:19PM I DON'T WANT TO OVERCOMPLICATE IT.
9:30:21PM ESPECIALLY WHEN PEOPLE ARE HANGRY.
9:30:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:30:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:30:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE'S STILL MORE DISCUSSION, SIR.
9:30:28PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT IN TERMS OF CHANNELSIDE, BECAUSE
9:30:31PM CHANNELSIDE IS SO VERY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN.
9:30:35PM WHY DOES IT NEED A FIRE STATION?
9:30:36PM CAN YOU JUSTIFY THE NEED?
9:30:38PM IT'S LITERALLY AROUND THE CORNER.
9:30:41PM CAN YOU JUSTIFY THE NEED?
9:30:42PM 80% OF OUR CALLS ARE MEDICAL.
9:30:45PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DATA ON THAT TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT A
9:30:48PM FIRE STATION THAT'S AROUND THE CORNER FROM DOWNTOWN.
9:30:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS NOT ASKING YOU
9:30:54PM TO MARRY THE IDEA.
9:30:55PM IT'S MERELY ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT IT.
9:30:58PM IF YOU WANT TO VOTE NO ON OBJECTION, YOU MAY.
9:31:00PM AGAIN, I DO BELIEVE AND THE UNION DOES BELIEVE AN ADDITIONAL
9:31:03PM FIRE STATION IS NEEDED THERE.
9:31:04PM I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING REGIONAL TO MOVE FORWARD AT THIS
9:31:07PM TIME.
9:31:07PM AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A WHOLE MICRODISCUSSION AT
9:31:10PM THIS TIME OF NIGHT ON THIS, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
9:31:13PM PLANT THE SEEDS IN THIS BUDGET FOR THAT.
9:31:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOUR MOTION DOES KIND OF COMMIT FUNDS FOR
9:31:18PM THAT.
9:31:19PM CAN WE HAVE THEM REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL ON THAT ISSUE?
9:31:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
9:31:28PM YEAH, IT IS TO REPORT BACK ON THEIR POSITION ON US STATING
9:31:31PM THAT'S OUR POSITION ON IT AND THEY REPORT BACK TO US WITH
9:31:33PM OUR POSITION AND WE CAN HAVE IT IN.
9:31:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WANT TO HAVE IT IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, MY
9:31:39PM SUGGESTION BRING IT BACK AT THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
9:31:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THE CHIEF PREPARED TO HAVE THAT BY
9:31:44PM FIRST READING?
9:31:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND IF I MAY --
9:31:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I MAY, BEFORE THE CHIEF SHOWS UP, JUST
9:31:57PM TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT, FIRE STATION 24 -- DENNIS
9:32:06PM ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
9:32:08PM THERE IS $1.5 MILLION IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR '23 CAPITAL
9:32:12PM IMPROVEMENT PLAN BEING CARRIED OVER IN FISCAL YEAR '24
9:32:16PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THAT PARTICULAR FIRE STATION.
9:32:19PM JUST TO ADD CONTEXT.
9:32:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S GREAT TO HEAR.
9:32:22PM AGAIN, WHAT WE HEARD AT CAFE CON TAMPA, RIGHT, NOT TO BRING
9:32:28PM UP CAFE CON TAMPA, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUT THERE WAS A
9:32:32PM DE-EMPHASIS OF FIRE STATIONS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA BUDGET.
9:32:36PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE K-BAR RANCH, WHICH LAST THING I
9:32:37PM HEARD TAMPA FIRE RESCUE WASN'T TOO KEEN ON HAVING A STATION
9:32:40PM AT K-BAR RANCH.
9:32:42PM SO THAT'S A GREAT REVERSAL, AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT, NORTH
9:32:44PM TAMPA AS WELL AS DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
9:32:46PM THAT'S IT.
9:32:46PM THAT'S MY MOTION.
9:32:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN NONE OF THIS STUFF,
9:32:55PM NEITHER IS THE REST OF US, I THINK.
9:32:57PM WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT BASED ON DENSITY BY POPULATION,
9:33:01PM THAT'S THE METRICS THAT THEY USE.
9:33:02PM WHEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF HIGH-RISES, I GUESS THAT'S WHAT THEY
9:33:05PM ARE TALKING ABOUT, DENSITY AND HIGH-RISE, THE PROBLEM IS THE
9:33:10PM LAND COST AND WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IT AT.
9:33:13PM I DON'T KNOW HOW TO TELL YOU, THAT'S FOR THE EXPERTS TO FIND
9:33:16PM OUT HOW TO DO THAT.
9:33:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: FEASIBILITY.
9:33:20PM THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
9:33:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS IT POSSIBLE TO EXPAND FIRE STATION 1 TO
9:33:25PM ACCOMMODATE TO DO THAT.
9:33:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, AGAIN WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS FEASIBILITY.
9:33:31PM I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A WHOLE WORKSHOP THIS EVENING.
9:33:33PM I WOULDN'T PUT THE CHIEF ON THE SPOT FOR THAT, FOR EXAMPLE,
9:33:35PM JUST SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS IT AT THE COUNCIL MEETING AND
9:33:38PM THEN THE ADMINISTRATION CAN BRIEF US AND CHIEF TRIPP AND
9:33:41PM OTHERS CAN BRIEF US IN BETWEEN THEN.
9:33:43PM BUT I WANT TO GET THAT CONVERSATION STARTED.
9:33:45PM WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IN THIS BUDGET.
9:33:47PM I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
9:33:55PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I THINK IT IS A LOT TO GO INTO WHEN WE TALK
9:33:58PM ABOUT FIRE STATIONS.
9:33:58PM I THINK WE NEED TO SEE WHAT'S NEEDED BASED ON THE CALL
9:34:02PM VOLUMES THAT WE HAVE AND AS FAR AS WHAT TYPE OF CALLS THEY
9:34:06PM ARE.
9:34:06PM I'M NOT SAYING WE NEED TO BUILD FIRE STATIONS.
9:34:12PM I'M SAYING THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT THE NEED IS.
9:34:16PM THE NEED HAS BEEN FROM MULTIPLE REPORTS OF ALS, ADVANCED
9:34:21PM LIFE SUPPORT UNITS HELPING WITH THE MEDICAL CALLS.
9:34:27PM THE LAYOUT OF WHAT'S BEEN IN PLACE OVER THE YEARS, THAT'S
9:34:30PM WHY I SAY WHEN MAKING CHANGES FOR RESPONSE TIME, IT'S SO
9:34:34PM MANY COMPONENTS OF THIS RESPONSE TIME.
9:34:37PM WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE, HOW CAN WE
9:34:42PM CHANGE THE RESPONSE TIME.
9:34:43PM THE UNITS GETTING OUT OF THE STATIONS, OUR DISPATCH SYSTEM.
9:34:47PM BOTH REPORTS STATE HOW WE'RE NOT MEETING STANDARDS WHEN IT
9:34:52PM COMES TO OUR DISPATCH SYSTEM, WHERE IT SHOULD BE WITHIN 60
9:34:55PM MINUTES AND TAKING MORE THAN 60 MINUTES.
9:34:57PM SO WE HARP ON THE RESPONSE TIME, BUT IT'S SO MANY DIFFERENT
9:35:01PM COMPONENTS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO CLEAR UP, BECAUSE EVEN IF
9:35:04PM YOU DO MASTER PLAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE ACCURATE
9:35:09PM INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED UNTIL YOU FILL SOME OF THESE GAPS
9:35:12PM IN.
9:35:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA IS ASKING
9:35:17PM FOR, I DON'T THINK -- NEED TO REFURBISH THE FIRE STATIONS.
9:35:22PM WE NEED TO GET THAT TECHNOLOGY IN THE VEHICLES.
9:35:24PM WE NEED TO HIRE YOUR FIREFIGHTERS, WE NEED TO ADD THE ALS
9:35:30PM THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT ALSO KIND OF IN PARALLEL WITH
9:35:32PM THAT IS DO THE ADVANCED STEPS.
9:35:34PM I THINK SOME OF THIS -- I BELIEVE I ACTUALLY HEARD YOU SAY
9:35:37PM TO US ONCE THAT THERE WAS A NEED, K-BAR WAS EVENTUALLY A
9:35:42PM NEED.
9:35:42PM THE PRIORITY LIST, WE WEREN'T THERE BECAUSE WE HAD ALL THESE
9:35:45PM OTHER NEEDS.
9:35:46PM IF WE'RE ABLE TO WITH HAVING THIS INCREASE IN FUNDING, IF
9:35:49PM WE'RE ABLE TO FUND ALL THOSE NEEDS NOW, WE COULD STILL MOVE
9:35:54PM FORWARD IN THIS BUDGET TO DO THE ADVANCED WORK TO IDENTIFY
9:36:01PM WHAT OUR FUTURE NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE.
9:36:04PM WE GOT TO GET AN EARMARK IN THE BUDGET TO START THE PROCESS.
9:36:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, IF I MAY, MY MOTION IS ON, AGAIN,
9:36:11PM FEASIBILITY.
9:36:11PM I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A DETAILED DISCUSSION ON THIS THIS
9:36:14PM EVENING BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT THE TIME.
9:36:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU COME BACK ON FIRST READING OF THE
9:36:18PM BUDGET WITH FEASIBILITY OF IDENTIFYING THE FIRE STATIONS?
9:36:20PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I WILL DO MY BEST.
9:36:22PM IF I NEED MORE TIME, I'LL ASK.
9:36:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY, CHIEF.
9:36:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.
9:36:27PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:36:27PM ANY OPPOSED?
9:36:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NAY.
9:36:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I NOW HAVE A MOTION.
9:36:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COMPLETE THE SENTENCE OF MOTION PASSES,
9:36:40PM FAILS.
9:36:41PM >> MOTION PASSES WITH HENDERSON VOTING NO.
9:36:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:36:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOING TO ASK THAT FINANCE STAFF PROVIDE
9:36:54PM THE FY 2023 ROLLOVER FUNDS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT TO COUNCIL BY
9:36:59PM AUGUST 23rd, 2023.
9:37:01PM I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE LEFT AND WHERE IT'S GOING.
9:37:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
9:37:08PM HURTAK WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:37:12PM THIS IS FOR --
9:37:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR THE ENTIRE BUDGET AND OBVIOUSLY NOT EVERY
9:37:15PM DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO HAVE -- ANY DEPARTMENT THAT DOES HAVE
9:37:18PM ROLLOVER, I'M SURE IN THAT LITTLE COMPUTER PROGRAM THAT NONE
9:37:23PM OF US CAN UNDERSTAND -- WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANY OF YOU
9:37:26PM -- I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
9:37:27PM I HOPE YOU ALL DO.
9:37:29PM THAT'S ALL THAT I REALLY GUESS MATTERS IN THE LONG RUN.
9:37:32PM BUT I'M SURE THERE'S SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU CAN SHARE WITH US
9:37:35PM THE ROLLOVER AREAS.
9:37:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I MAY ASK --
9:37:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 2023, WHAT'S GOING TO BE ADDED TO, LIKE THIS,
9:37:43PM WE HAD MONEY SITTING IN THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM,
9:37:46PM AND IF WE HAVE THE ROLLOVER, WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT.
9:37:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I COULD ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
9:37:52PM FIRST, MY FIRST CAVEAT IT WILL BE PROJECTED ROLLOVER BECAUSE
9:37:57PM WE ARE NOT OUT OF FISCAL YEAR YET, AS OPPOSED TO ACTUALS
9:38:01PM WHICH AGAIN WOULD TAKE PROBABLY TWO MONTHS.
9:38:03PM WE TYPICALLY KNOW OUR ACTUALS IN NOVEMBER.
9:38:07PM HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU THE PROJECTIONS.
9:38:08PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
9:38:09PM IT WOULD BE WHAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE REMAINING IN THE
9:38:11PM DEPARTMENT'S BUDGET AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
9:38:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY VERY HELPFUL, YES.
9:38:16PM WE CAN START WITH JUST THE DEPARTMENT, IF YOU THINK THAT
9:38:19PM SOME THINGS NEED TO BE DIVIDED OUT, BUT YOU KNOW I'LL HAVE
9:38:23PM QUESTIONS ABOUT DIVIDING OUT.
9:38:24PM IF IT IS NOT HARD, GO AHEAD AND DIVIDE IT OUT.
9:38:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
9:38:29PM UNDERSTOOD.
9:38:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?
9:38:30PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, I'M SORRY, GIVE IT TO
9:38:35PM MIRANDA.
9:38:35PM DISCUSSION?
9:38:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:38:38PM AYE.
9:38:39PM ANY OPPOSED?
9:38:40PM ANYBODY ELSE?
9:38:42PM YES, SIR.
9:38:45PM MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
9:38:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY THREE THINGS REAL FAST.
9:39:00PM ONE IS THAT I THINK WE NEED SOME KIND OF SYSTEM FOR TRACKING
9:39:03PM AND APPROVALS ON BONDING.
9:39:05PM MY OBJECTION TO THE FAIR OAKS ISSUE IS JUST THE WAY IT WAS
9:39:12PM HANDLED THAT CITY COUNCIL, AT LEAST I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THE
9:39:15PM PRICE HAD RISEN BY $23 MILLION AND THE SAME THING WITH HANNA
9:39:19PM AVENUE, AND THERE ARE OTHER EXAMPLES.
9:39:22PM JUST SOMEHOW WE NEED APPROVAL PROCESS WHERE JUST LIKE YOU
9:39:26PM SAY, THE AD VALOREM REVENUE HAS GONE UP BY 26 MILLION, WE
9:39:30PM NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE BOND CAPACITY IS, AND THEN WE NEED TO
9:39:33PM HAVE A DISCUSSION BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL AND THE
9:39:36PM ADMINISTRATION ABOUT WHAT THAT BOND CAPACITY IS GOING TO BE
9:39:38PM HANDLED ON.
9:39:40PM INSTEAD, WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS PROMISED
9:39:43PM SOMETHING BEFORE WE EVEN KNOW THAT IT'S BEING CONSIDERED.
9:39:45PM I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION RIGHT NOW, BUT JUST ASK EVERYBODY TO
9:39:48PM PLEASE THINK ABOUT THAT SO WE CAN AVOID THAT CONFUSION IN
9:39:51PM THE FUTURE.
9:39:52PM SECOND IS THAT, YES, SOMEONE MENTIONED THAT THE ORIGINAL --
9:39:58PM THE ORIGINAL BUDGET THAT WAS PUT ON THE WEBSITE WAS JUST THE
9:40:01PM 300 PAGE VERSION, BUT WITHIN THREE OR FOUR WORKING DAYS, NOW
9:40:06PM THERE IS THE 900 PAGE VERSION.
9:40:08PM I WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHO IS WATCHING,
9:40:10PM TAMPA.GOV/BUDGET, AND THERE ARE THREE BUCKETS HERE, THE 2024
9:40:17PM BUDGET PDF, 2024 TO 2028 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND 2024 BUDGET
9:40:22PM SUPPLEMENT.
9:40:23PM YOU HAVE TO READ ALL THREE OF THOSE TO GET THE WHOLE BUDGET
9:40:26PM AND MAYBE ANOTHER ADDENDUM ADDED.
9:40:28PM THE REASON I SAY THAT IS THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION FOR
9:40:31PM GETTING THE LONGER VERSION OUT.
9:40:32PM WE NEED EVERYBODY POSSIBLE TO READ THE WHOLE DOCUMENT.
9:40:36PM EVERY YEAR WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO COMES WITH A
9:40:39PM GREAT IDEA THAT THEY FOUND BY READING LINE BY LINE.
9:40:44PM IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS, SEND TO
9:40:47PM TAMPACITYCOUNCIL@TAMPAGOV.NET.
9:40:52PM AND THE LAST THING IS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE STORY
9:40:55PM YESTERDAY, BUT THE STATE HAS PASSED THESE NEW LAWS ABOUT
9:40:58PM CONDOS.
9:40:59PM IF YOUR CONDO IS MORE THAN 30 YEARS OLD, YOU HAVE TO GET AN
9:41:03PM INSPECTION.
9:41:03PM AND THEN EVERY TEN YEARS AFTERWARDS YOU HAVE TO GET AN
9:41:06PM INSPECTION.
9:41:06PM BAYFRONT TOWERS IN ST. PETE, WHICH IS WELL KNOWN TOWER,
9:41:12PM CHARLIE CRIST LIVED IN IT A LONG TIME, THEY JUST GOT HIT BY
9:41:17PM $45 MILLION IN REPAIRS THAT THEY HAD TO MAKE.
9:41:19PM IT MIGHT END UP BEING LESS.
9:41:21PM I DON'T WANT TO MENTION ANY NAMES OF CONDOS, IF WE HAVE --
9:41:26PM WE HAVE A LOT OF CONDOS MORE THAN 30 YEARS OLD IN THE CITY
9:41:29PM OF TAMPA AND WE COULD BE FACING SOME CATASTROPHIC
9:41:31PM SITUATIONS. WE TALK ABOUT KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES,
9:41:34PM THERE COULD BE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONDOS THAT COULD BE UPSIDE
9:41:37PM DOWN WITH THEIR EQUITY BECAUSE OF THIS LAW AND BECAUSE OF
9:41:40PM THE PROBLEMS THEY FIND.
9:41:43PM WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON THE RADAR AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
9:41:46PM THE CITY WILL DO AROUND IT.
9:41:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE BUDGET MONEY, DO YOU HAVE TO COME
9:41:53PM BEFORE CITY COUNCIL -- TO BOND MONEY, DOES THAT REQUIRE CITY
9:41:57PM COUNCIL APPROVAL?
9:41:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
9:41:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO MAKE SURE.
9:42:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: THEY HAVE TO GET APPROVAL FROM US TO ISSUE
9:42:05PM THE BONDS AND THEN ALSO FOR THE BUDGET APPROVAL, BUT LIKE ON
9:42:09PM FAIR OAKS, TO MY KNOWLEDGE WE HAVEN'T VOTED ON THE $23
9:42:13PM MILLION INCREASE.
9:42:14PM AND THE PUBLIC WAS -- THE STAFF SAID THE PUBLIC WAS PROMISED
9:42:19PM THAT MONEY.
9:42:20PM SO THE SAME THING WITH FAIR OAKS.
9:42:22PM PRESENTED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WITH A $14 MILLION INCREASE,
9:42:26PM BUT THE MONEY ESSENTIALLY HAD ALREADY BEEN SPENT.
9:42:30PM IF LOOKING AT NEXT YEAR WE SEE THAT WE CAN REFINANCE BONDS
9:42:34PM OR ISSUE NEW BONDS AND LET'S SAY THERE IS A HUNDRED MILLION
9:42:37PM DOLLARS IN CAPACITY, WE SPENT THE WHOLE NIGHT TALKING ABOUT
9:42:40PM $46 MILLION.
9:42:41PM IF THERE'S HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN CAPACITY, WE NEED TO
9:42:44PM SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT HOW THAT WILL BE SPENT.
9:42:46PM WE KNOW IN THOSE TWO CASES I MENTIONED THAT'S LIKE 50
9:42:50PM MILLION, JUST FAIR OAKS AND HANNA AVENUE, THE INCREASE IN
9:42:53PM THE BONDS ARE THE SAME AS THE ENTIRE INCREASE IN THE BUDGET.
9:42:57PM WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY TIME TALKING ABOUT THOSE.
9:43:00PM WE NEED TO HAVE A CYCLE WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE
9:43:02PM PUBLIC ARE INVOLVED EARLY IN THE PROCESS, KNOW WHAT BONDING
9:43:05PM CAPACITY WE HAVE AND THE ADMINISTRATION CAN SAY HERE IS WHAT
9:43:09PM WE THINK THE PRIORITIES ARE AND HOW IT SHOULD BE USED.
9:43:12PM WE CAN GIVE FEEDBACK, PROBABLY GIVE FEEDBACK BEFORE WE GO
9:43:15PM DOWN TO PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE WE PROMISE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE
9:43:17PM INCREASING THE BUDGET.
9:43:18PM THANK YOU.
9:43:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S GOOD DISCUSSION, BECAUSE I'M ALSO
9:43:21PM APPREHENSIVE.
9:43:22PM I WAS IN A CONVERSATION TODAY ABOUT BONDED MONEY BECAUSE IT
9:43:26PM OBLIGATES FUTURE COUNCILS AND TIES THEIR HANDS AND TIES UP
9:43:29PM MONEY.
9:43:29PM TALK ABOUT THE CRA, BOND FUTURE CRA MONEY, THAT ELIMINATES
9:43:34PM SOME OF OUR FLEXIBILITY OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHICH I THINK
9:43:37PM WHAT WE FOUND WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH SOME OF THE CRAs.
9:43:39PM I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP TODAY AND SOMETHING I
9:43:41PM DEFINITELY WANT TO PAY ATTENTION TO.
9:43:43PM THANK YOU.
9:43:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN OFFER A CLARIFICATION.
9:43:47PM YES, BOTH COUNCILMEN, YOU ARE CORRECT.
9:43:50PM AGAIN, IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY MAKE IT CLEAR WE HAVE
9:43:52PM NOT ISSUED ANY DEBT ON THE EAST TAMPA RECREATION CENTER.
9:43:57PM AS YOU ASKED, WE'LL HAVE TO COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TO
9:44:00PM ISSUE THAT DEBT IN THE FUTURE.
9:44:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
9:44:07PM >> SECOND.
9:44:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:44:09PM CLENDENIN.
9:44:10PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:44:12PM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:44:12PM ANY OPPOSED?
9:44:13PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
9:44:14PM THANK YOU.
9:44:14PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
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