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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, AUGUST 24, 2023
9:00 A.M.

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9:04:56AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:04:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:05:05AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
9:05:07AM ORDER.
9:05:07AM AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA FOR TODAY'S
9:05:10AM INVOCATION.
9:05:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:05:12AM IT'S MY GREAT PLEASURE TO WELCOME OUR FRIEND, PASTOR ERICA
9:05:16AM ALLEN WITH HORIZON CHURCH, A UNITED METHODIST CONGREGATION
9:05:21AM IN TAMPA.
9:05:22AM I WAS TELLING PASTOR ALLEN THAT I'M CATHOLIC, BUT IF I WAS
9:05:24AM PROTESTANT, I WOULD PROBABLY BE A METHODIST, SO THERE YOU
9:05:24AM GO.
9:05:27AM THEIR CHURCH PURCHASED PINARAMA BOWLING ALLEY IN SOUTH TAMPA
9:05:32AM AND ARE RENOVATING THE BOWLING ALLEY TO INCLUDE ROOMS FOR
9:05:34AM CHILDREN MINISTRIES AND ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE WITH
9:05:37AM SPECIAL NEEDS AND INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.

9:05:38AM THIS MINISTRY ALSO WORKS TO PROVIDE MENTORSHIPS AND POSITIVE
9:05:42AM ADULT SUPPORT TO CHILDREN AT CHIARAMONTE ELEMENTARY WHO ARE
9:05:45AM ENTERING THE TRANSITION BETWEEN ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE
9:05:48AM SCHOOL.
9:05:48AM THE PROGRAM HELPED IMPROVE ATTENDANCE, DECREASE BEHAVIORAL
9:05:51AM REFERRALS AND MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.
9:05:54AM PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME PASTOR ALLEN OF HORIZON CHURCH AND
9:05:58AM STAND FOR THE INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE
9:06:00AM OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:06:05AM >> LET US PRAY.
9:06:06AM GRACIOUS GOD.
9:06:07AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY EACH OF US HAD THIS MORNING TO
9:06:09AM WAKE UP IN THE GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD.
9:06:11AM WE ASK YOU TO BLESS TAMPA.
9:06:13AM MAKE US A BRIGHT LIGHT TO OTHER CITIES.
9:06:16AM GRANT US INNOVATION TO ADDRESS COMPLEX ISSUES, GRANT US JOY
9:06:21AM IN THE WORK, GRANT US ECONOMIC GROWTH AND PROSPERITY, GRANT
9:06:26AM TAMPA'S PEOPLE COMPASSION AND A DESIRE TO SERVE ALL OF OUR
9:06:30AM FRIENDS, ESPECIALLY THE LEAST OF THESE.
9:06:34AM AS SCHOOLS BEGIN A NEW SCHOOL YEAR, WE PRAY FOR OUR
9:06:38AM CHILDREN.
9:06:38AM KEEP THEM SAFE AND HEALTHY.
9:06:40AM GIVE THEM CURIOSITY AND WONDER AND PREPARE THE YOUNG TO LEAD
9:06:45AM TAMPA INTO A HOPEFUL AND BRIGHT FUTURE.
9:06:47AM REMIND US ALL OF THE CORE TRUTH THAT ALL CHILDREN HAVE THE

9:06:51AM ABILITY TO LEARN AND GROW AND TO GIVE US OPPORTUNITIES TO
9:06:55AM CREATE SPACE WHERE ALL CHILDREN CAN THRIVE.
9:06:57AM WE PRAY FOR TEACHERS.
9:07:00AM GIVE THEM STRENGTH, ENERGY, AND TENACITY.
9:07:04AM HELP THEM TO KNOW HOW VALUED AND IMPORTANT THEY ARE.
9:07:07AM WE PRAY FOR BUS DRIVERS, ADMINISTRATORS AND SCHOOL LEADERS.
9:07:10AM GOD ABOVE ALL, WE ASK YOU TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN EACH AND
9:07:13AM EVERY DAY.
9:07:14AM WE PRAY FOR ALL OF THE PUBLIC SERVANTS, SOME OF WHOM ARE
9:07:19AM STANDING AMONG US TODAY.
9:07:20AM THANK YOU FOR TPD, FIREFIGHTERS, ET CETERA, THOSE WHO WILL
9:07:24AM WORK IN THE HEAT TO SERVE AND LOVE THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA
9:07:28AM TODAY.
9:07:28AM THANK YOU FOR THEIR HEARTS.
9:07:30AM PROTECT THEIR BODIES, GOD.
9:07:31AM WE PRAY FOR THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND FOR VARIOUS
9:07:38AM REASONS FIND IT DIFFICULT TO FIND A COOL PLACE FOR RESPITE
9:07:41AM TODAY, PROTECT THEM, TOO, GOD.
9:07:44AM GIVE US INNOVATION FOR THE COMPLEX AND OFTEN HEARTBREAKING
9:07:48AM ISSUE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:07:49AM GIVE US EYES TO SEE AND HANDS TO WORK TOWARD A MORE JUST AND
9:07:53AM COMPASSIONATE CITY.
9:07:54AM GIVE US CREATIVE SOLUTIONS AND BOLDNESS TO WORK FOR THE
9:07:59AM CITY.
9:07:59AM GOD, THANK YOU FOR THE BUSINESS LEADERS, SOME OF WHOM ARE IN

9:08:02AM THIS ROOM TODAY.
9:08:03AM THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO LOVE THIS CITY MORE THAN ANYTHING
9:08:06AM AND ARE COMMITTED TO SEE HER THRIVING.
9:08:09AM BLESS THEM AND GRANT THEM HEARTS FOR YOUR PEOPLE.
9:08:12AM GOD, FINALLY, I LIFT UP THESE CITY COUNCIL LEADERS.
9:08:16AM GIVE THEM WISDOM TO MAKE SOUND DECISIONS.
9:08:18AM GRANT THEM COURAGE FOR BOLD LEADERSHIP.
9:08:20AM GIVE THEM EARS AND STRENGTH TO HEAR THE PEOPLE AND GIVE THEM
9:08:23AM ENERGY AND PASSION TO CREATE SOLUTION.
9:08:25AM GOD, BLESS US ALL WITH THE OPPORTUNITY FOR REST AND DEEP
9:08:29AM BREATHS TO RESTORE OUR STRENGTH AND ENERGY.
9:08:32AM GIVE US FRIENDS AND COMMUNITY WHO ARE SUPPORTIVE.
9:08:34AM AND ABOVE ALL, GOD, WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY.
9:08:38AM AMEN.
9:08:40AM >> AMEN.
9:08:41AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:08:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:09:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:09:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:09:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:09:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:09:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:09:06AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:09:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:09:08AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.

9:09:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:09:10AM AT THIS TIME, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM
9:09:13AM THE AUGUST 3rd MEETING AS WELL AS THE AUGUST 17th
9:09:16AM MEETING.
9:09:17AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
9:09:20AM VIERA.
9:09:20AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:20AM AYE.
9:09:21AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:09:22AM ALL RIGHT.
9:09:23AM LET'S GO THROUGH THE AGENDA REAL QUICK.
9:09:26AM WE HAVE A REQUEST TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 1, THE ATU
9:09:30AM EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH TO OCTOBER 5th DUE TO A SCHEDULING
9:09:35AM CONFLICT.
9:09:35AM A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 1 AND REPLACE IT WITH A
9:09:38AM SPECIAL GUEST TODAY, MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:09:41AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:09:43AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:43AM AYE.
9:09:44AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:09:44AM WE ALSO HAVE A WALK-ON REQUEST FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FOR
9:09:48AM THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE TO BE HEARD RIGHT
9:09:51AM AFTER ITEM NUMBER 4.
9:09:52AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION?
9:09:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR, MAKE THE MOTION TO BRING WHAT

9:09:56AM YOU JUST SAID REGARDING THE HISPANIC OPERATION FOR THE CITY
9:09:59AM OF TAMPA RIGHT AFTER ITEM NUMBER 3.
9:10:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:10:02AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:10:03AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:04AM AYE.
9:10:04AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:10:05AM ALL RIGHT.
9:10:05AM WE HAVE A MEMO FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO PULL ITEMS 17 AND
9:10:09AM 61, BOTH FOR DISCUSSION UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:10:13AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
9:10:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:10:14AM I MAKE A MOTION TO PULL THOSE, PLEASE.
9:10:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
9:10:18AM HURTAK, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:10:20AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:21AM AYE.
9:10:21AM ALL RIGHT.
9:10:22AM WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM MS. SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, OUR
9:10:27AM ATTORNEY, TO SPEAK DURING THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
9:10:29AM ONCE THAT COMES UP, SHE WILL BE SPEAKING ON THAT.
9:10:31AM AND BEFORE WE ASK FOR AN APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND THE
9:10:35AM ADDENDUM, LET'S GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORTS.
9:10:37AM WE WILL HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE AS DISCUSSED.
9:10:40AM ITEM NUMBER 110, $29 MILLION CONTRACT.

9:10:44AM I WOULD SAY YES.
9:10:45AM ITEM NUMBER 111 IS 3.9 MILLION.
9:10:48AM ITEM 112 IS 7.6 MILLION.
9:10:50AM SO WE WOULD HAVE BRAD BAIRD FOR ALL THOSE.
9:10:54AM ITEM 113 IS 4.3 MILLION.
9:10:57AM ITEM 114 IS 16 MILLION.
9:10:59AM SO BRAD BAIRD FOR ALL THOSE WHICH ARE 110 THROUGH 114.
9:11:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:11:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
9:11:08AM FOR TPD ON BODY WORN CAMERAS, WE HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:11:14AM WOULD WE LIKE THE CHIEF TO BE HERE FOR THAT?
9:11:16AM ALL RIGHT, CHIEF, WE'RE GOOD WITH THE WRITTEN REPORT.
9:11:23AM WE'LL RECEIVE AND FILE THAT.
9:11:24AM ITEM 116 REGARDING RETURNING CITIZENS.
9:11:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
9:11:28AM I ACTUALLY WANT TO PULL THAT.
9:11:30AM WE HAVE THIS COMING BACK TO US IN NOVEMBER WITH A PROGRAM
9:11:33AM THAT THE CITY IS WORKING ON THE COUNTY FOR RETURNING
9:11:36AM CITIZENS JOB TRAINING AND APPRENTICESHIP.
9:11:38AM SO THIS CAN BE REPORTED ON AT THAT TIME.
9:11:41AM IT'S PROBABLY MORE EFFICIENT AND WHATNOT.
9:11:45AM JUST TAKE IT OFF, IF I MAY, IN LIEU OF THE NOVEMBER REPORT.
9:11:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 116 WE WON'T TAKE UP.
9:11:50AM WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT IN NOVEMBER.
9:11:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST IN CASE ANYBODY IS WATCHING ABOUT BODY

9:11:55AM CAMERAS, THE REPORT THAT THE CHIEF PROVIDED IS VERY THOROUGH
9:11:59AM AND I JUST WANT TO SAY ON THE RECORD I APPRECIATE HIM DOING
9:12:02AM IT.
9:12:02AM ANYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN THE UPDATE ON THAT AND THE
9:12:05AM TRANSPARENCY CONNECTED TO IT, PLEASE READ THAT DOCUMENT.
9:12:07AM THANK YOU.
9:12:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:12:07AM ITEM NUMBER 117, COUNCILMAN.
9:12:10AM YES, MA'AM.
9:12:12AM >>THE CLERK: ITEM 116, CAN WE GET A MOTION TO REMOVE IT FROM
9:12:14AM THE AGENDA?
9:12:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO REMOVE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:12:17AM VIERA.
9:12:18AM SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:12:19AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:12:20AM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU WANT THIS TO BE ANOTHER ANNUAL REPORT OR
9:12:23AM TAKE IT OFF ALTOGETHER?
9:12:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S KEEP IT AS ANNUAL REPORT SINCE IT IS
9:12:27AM NEXT AUGUST.
9:12:27AM YOU NEVER KNOW.
9:12:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 117, COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S MOTION,
9:12:31AM MR. BHIDE TRANSMITTED A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:12:33AM WOULD YOU LIKE HIM PRESENT FOR THAT?
9:12:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
9:12:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 117, MR. BHIDE PRESENT.

9:12:38AM 118 REGARDING JACKSON HOUSE, YES, ABSOLUTELY.
9:12:41AM ITEMS 119, YES, WE HAVE A PowerPoint PRESENTATION.
9:12:48AM SO WE'LL HAVE THAT PERSON PRESENT.
9:12:50AM ITEM 120 IS FROM JUSTIN VASKE REGARDING A MOTION BY
9:12:56AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:12:56AM DRAFT ORDINANCE?
9:12:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
9:12:58AM WE CAN HEAR ON THAT.
9:12:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 120, ITEM 121 IS JUST THE CALENDAR
9:13:04AM TENTATIVELY FROM NOW TO JULY 25th.
9:13:06AM YES, SIR.
9:13:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL MAKE THE MOTION ON 122.
9:13:12AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEMS 122,
9:13:16AM 123 AND 124 TO OCTOBER -- AND 125 TO OCTOBER 5th AT THE
9:13:22AM REQUEST OF --
9:13:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:13:28AM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:13:28AM DID YOU MENTION 125?
9:13:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, 125.
9:13:33AM I WOULD ASK MY COLLEAGUES, PLEASE READ THESE.
9:13:35AM THESE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN TIED TO ISSUES
9:13:38AM WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.
9:13:39AM WHEN IT COMES UP, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
9:13:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 126, WE HAVE A MEMO FROM THE CHIEF
9:13:44AM OF POLICE REQUESTING THE ITEM CONTINUED TO OCTOBER 19, 2023.

9:13:48AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:13:50AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:13:52AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:13:53AM AYE.
9:13:53AM THAT COVERS THE AGENDA.
9:13:57AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND ADDENDUM.
9:14:01AM MOTION BY VIERA, SECOND BY HENDERSON.
9:14:03AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:14:04AM IN PLACE OF ITEM 1, WE HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST AND MANY OTHER
9:14:07AM SPECIAL GUESTS TODAY.
9:14:08AM WE HAVE MAYOR CASTOR.
9:14:09AM CHIEF BERCAW, CHIEF DELGADO AND STATE ATTORNEY SUSIE LOPEZ
9:14:14AM IN THE BACK.
9:14:15AM YES, MA'AM, MAYOR, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THE HONORS, GO
9:14:17AM AHEAD.
9:14:18AM >>MAYOR CASTOR: COUNCIL, GOOD MORNING.
9:14:21AM IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE WITH CHIEF LEE BERCAW AND ALSO
9:14:27AM REPRESENTATIVES FROM TAMPA BAY, SHERRY BROWN, MORE
9:14:30AM AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN AS DOWNTOWN SHERRY BROWN.
9:14:32AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:14:32AM TO INTRODUCE TO YOU, WHICH I KNOW THE MAJORITY OF YOU KNOW,
9:14:38AM THE ESTEEMED DR. XERNONA CLAYTON.
9:14:42AM AND IT IS SO, SO EXCITING TO HAVE HER IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:14:47AM AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THIS WILL BE THE FOURTH YEAR THAT SHE
9:14:50AM HAS COME DOWN TO CELEBRATE HER BIRTHDAY HERE IN TAMPA.

9:14:53AM SHE IS 93 YEARS YOUNG.
9:14:56AM MADE ME FEEL BAD ABOUT COMPLAINING ABOUT SOME ACHES AND
9:14:59AM PAINS AT 63, TO SEE HER IN ACTION.
9:15:03AM MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT SHE IS A CIVIL RIGHTS ICON WORKING IN
9:15:07AM THE 1960s IN ATLANTA WITH DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, GOOD
9:15:14AM FRIEND OF HIS WIFE, CORETTA SCOTT KING, AND HAS DONE SO MUCH
9:15:18AM TO ADVANCE CIVIL RIGHTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:15:20AM WE JUST HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT 30 MINUTES' WORTH THAT WAS
9:15:28AM NOTHING SHORT OF AMAZING.
9:15:29AM TO HEAR HER STORIES AND TO GO BACK TO THOSE VALUES THAT WE
9:15:35AM ALL KNOW BUT TO UNDERSTAND IT THROUGH HER EXPERIENCES AND
9:15:40AM WHAT SHE HAS ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE YEARS IS TRULY
9:15:43AM REMARKABLE.
9:15:45AM I KNOW THAT COUNCIL HAS A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON BEHALF OF OUR
9:15:49AM RESIDENTS AND OUR CITY, BUT IF YOU HAD THE ENTIRE DAY TO
9:15:54AM LISTEN TO THE GOOD DOCTOR, I THINK EVERY MOMENT WOULD BE
9:16:00AM WELL WORTH IT.
9:16:01AM THE POINT THAT I BROUGHT AWAY THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT IS
9:16:05AM HER UNDERSCORING THE FACT THAT OUR SIMILARITIES WILL ALWAYS,
9:16:11AM ALWAYS OUTWEIGH OUR DIFFERENCES, AND THAT IF WE WORK
9:16:14AM TOGETHER, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING, NOT ONLY HERE IN
9:16:17AM TAMPA, BUT THROUGHOUT THE NATION AND THE WORLD.
9:16:19AM SO IT'S MY HONOR TO WELCOME HER AND YOU JUST TAKE IT AWAY,
9:16:26AM DOCTOR.
9:16:27AM >> WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:16:29AM DR. KING BELIEVED STRONGLY THAT WE CAN AND MUST LIVE
9:16:39AM TOGETHER.
9:16:40AM HE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE COULDN'T.
9:16:45AM MY MIND WENT BACK ON ONE OF HIS LESSONS ONE DAY WHEN I WAS A
9:16:50AM STUDENT IN COLLEGE.
9:16:52AM MY SISTER AND I AND OUR TWO BOYFRIENDS WENT OUT ON A DATE.
9:17:01AM WHEN THE EVENING WAS OVER, WE DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO TOP IT
9:17:04AM OFF WITH A HAMBURGER.
9:17:09AM WE ALL HAD MONEY TO AFFORD A HAMBURGER.
9:17:13AM AND AFTER A GREAT EVENING, WE WALKED INTO THE HAMBURGER
9:17:19AM SHOP, STORE, WALKED INTO A MAN WHO WAS STANDING AT THE
9:17:24AM COUNTER WITH A BUTCHER KNIFE THAT LOOKED THIS LONG.
9:17:30AM AND HE SAID TO US, IF YOU NIGGERS DON'T GET OUT OF THIS
9:17:39AM PLACE, I WILL CUT ALL YOUR HEADS OFF BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU
9:17:42AM DON'T BELONG HERE.
9:17:43AM A PAIN THAT I STILL FEEL WHEN I TALK ABOUT IT.
9:17:49AM YOU DON'T BELONG HERE.
9:17:52AM WE HAD MONEY TO AFFORD A HAMBURGER, BUT I RESOLVED THAT
9:18:02AM NIGHT, THIS IS LONG BEFORE I MET DR. KING, THAT I WANTED TO
9:18:06AM BE SURE THAT EVERYTHING I DID WOULD CONVINCE MY RIGHT TO BE
9:18:16AM HERE.
9:18:16AM I'VE SPENT MY LIFE TRYING TO DO THAT.
9:18:22AM THEN AFTER MEETING DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR., EVERYTHING I
9:18:28AM THOUGHT ENDED UP BEING STRENGTHENED, WHICH IS LEADERSHIP.
9:18:33AM HE COULD NOT UNDERSTAND WHY WE COULD NOT ALL LIVE TOGETHER

9:18:39AM BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THIS GREAT LAND.
9:18:42AM AND I'M WITH HIM.
9:18:44AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT EITHER.
9:18:48AM BUT COMING HERE HAS STRENGTHENED THE WILL TO KEEP DOING IT,
9:18:54AM KEEP WORKING AT IT.
9:18:56AM DON'T GIVE UP.
9:18:57AM AND THIS IS MY FOURTH TRIP, AS THE MAYOR SAID.
9:19:01AM I LIED SO MANY YEARS ABOUT MY BIRTHDAY --
9:19:06AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:19:06AM -- THAT I REALLY FORGOT HOW OLD I WAS.
9:19:10AM AND I TOOK 31 AS MY YEAR, AND I STAYED 31 FOR ABOUT 50
9:19:16AM YEARS.
9:19:17AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:19:17AM BUT NOW I'M READY NOW TO COME FACE THE TRUTH.
9:19:27AM THEY TELL ME THAT I'M 90, BUT IT'S REALLY 93.
9:19:35AM BUT I WANT TO SPEND IT HERE BECAUSE I'M SEEING THE PICTURE
9:19:43AM THAT DR. KING HELPED TO PAINT ALL THE TIME.
9:19:47AM I'VE SEEN DIVERSITY UNLIKE MANY PLACES.
9:19:51AM I JUST FELT UNCOMFORTABLE THAT I WAS ESCORTED BY THE POLICE.
9:19:55AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:19:55AM I'VE BEEN WITH THE POLICE EVER SINCE I CAME HERE THIS
9:20:02AM MORNING AND I HOPE THEY'LL TURN ME LOOSE IN A FEW MINUTES.
9:20:05AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:20:05AM IN MY HEART, IN MY HEART, I'M STILL BELIEVING THAT I BELONG
9:20:15AM HERE.

9:20:19AM I WORK AT PROVING THAT I CAN FIT HERE.
9:20:23AM THIS IS HOME FOR ME.
9:20:25AM AND MEETING THIS WONDERFUL MAYOR, I MEAN, I HAVE NOW A NEW
9:20:31AM EXCITEMENT ABOUT FACING THIS 31-YEAR BIRTHDAY AGAIN.
9:20:39AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:20:39AM I LOOK TO COUNCIL, OFFICEHOLDERS, YOUR CITY IS RUN BY
9:20:46AM DIVERSITY.
9:20:47AM THE PICTURE THAT DR. KING WOULD LOVE TO SEE.
9:20:49AM I WISH HE WERE HERE TODAY TO SEE YOU.
9:20:54AM YOU ARE A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE.
9:20:58AM I LOVE SAYING IT.
9:21:00AM MY RESOLVE IS STRENGTHENED BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE UP.
9:21:07AM I SPENT ALL THESE YEARS TRYING TO PROVE MY WORTH AND MY
9:21:11AM VALUE AND I THINK I'VE GOT IT.
9:21:17AM YOU ARE HELPING TO GIVE ME THE STRENGTH TO CONTINUE WORKING
9:21:21AM SO THAT EVERYBODY LOOKS LIKE YOU.
9:21:25AM THE PICTURE OF WHAT WE OUGHT TO BE.
9:21:28AM YOU HAVE PROVEN WE CAN BE IT AND I'M REMINDED OF THE WOMAN
9:21:34AM WHO WENT TO THE PET STORE.
9:21:41AM AT THE BEGINNING OF THE STORE, THERE WAS A CAGE WITH A
9:21:45AM PARROT IN IT.
9:21:48AM WHEN SHE WALKED IN, THE PARROT SAID TO HER, "YOU ARE UGLY."
9:21:52AM WELL, SHE WAS CHAGRINED BY THAT.
9:21:57AM AND SHE SAID TO THE OWNER, "YOUR BIRD JUST EMBARRASSED ME,
9:22:02AM SAID I WAS UGLY."

9:22:03AM HE SAID, "OH, MISS, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.
9:22:10AM I'LL CHANGE THE BIRD."
9:22:11AM SHE REACHED IN THE CAGE, GOT THE BIRD AND WALKED OUT AND
9:22:15AM SAID, "BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO LOSE YOU AS A CUSTOMER."
9:22:17AM SHE CAME BACK A SECOND TIME AND THE BIRD SAID, "YOU'RE
9:22:22AM UGLY!" AND SHE SAID TO THE OWNER, I THOUGHT YOU TOOK CARE OF
9:22:25AM THIS BIRD.
9:22:26AM HE SAID I'M UGLY AGAIN.
9:22:29AM HE SAID, "OH, MISS, PLEASE DON'T LEAVE."
9:22:33AM HE GRABBED THE PARROT, WENT OUT AND THEN CAME BACK AND SAID,
9:22:37AM "EVERYTHING IS TAKEN CARE OF NOW.
9:22:39AM YOU CAN COME BACK AT ANY TIME."
9:22:41AM SHE CAME BACK AGAIN.
9:22:44AM WHEN SHE WALKED IN THE DOOR THE PARROT LOOKED AT HER AND
9:22:47AM SAID, "YOU KNOW."
9:22:50AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:22:50AM I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I NOW KNOW THAT YOU'RE OKAY HERE IN
9:22:57AM TAMPA.
9:22:58AM I'M GOING TO COME BACK AGAIN AND THANKS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY
9:23:02AM TO MEET ALL OF YOU TODAY.
9:23:03AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:23:05AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:23:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.
9:23:19AM GOOD MORNING, DR. CLAYTON.
9:23:20AM WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA.

9:23:21AM I AM SO EXCITED AND HONORED TO BE IN YOUR PRESENCE IN THIS
9:23:24AM CHAMBER SAYING EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID.
9:23:26AM YOU ARE PART OF THE REASON WHY I AM STANDING AND SITTING IN
9:23:29AM THIS CHAMBER BECAUSE OF WOMEN LIKE YOU AND ALL OF THE WORK
9:23:32AM THAT YOU DID TOWARDS CIVIL RIGHTS.
9:23:34AM AND IF THE CHAIR DOESN'T MIND, BECAUSE OF YOUR DEDICATION TO
9:23:37AM THE COMMUNITY, YOUR DEDICATION TO HUMANITY, BEING A MEMBER
9:23:42AM OF THE HBCU AND DIVINE NINE FAMILY, I WOULD LOVE TO PROVIDE
9:23:45AM YOU WITH A COMMENDATION BECAUSE OF WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT
9:23:49AM YOU'VE DONE NOT ONLY FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE WORLD, BUT FOR
9:23:56AM YOURSELF AS A WOMAN.
9:23:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
9:23:59AM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:24:01AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:24:02AM AYE.
9:24:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:24:04AM OF COURSE, TO BE GIVEN TO YOU AT A LATER DATE.
9:24:09AM >>MAYOR CASTOR: THE NEXT BIRTHDAY.
9:24:10AM THE NEXT 31st BIRTHDAY.
9:24:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
9:24:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S SUCH AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU HERE WITH
9:24:15AM US.
9:24:16AM I WAS TOLD THE OTHER DAY THAT YOU WOULD BE HERE.
9:24:18AM SO WE WANTED TO ACCOMMODATE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HEARD YOUR
9:24:22AM VOICE BECAUSE YOU ARE A VERY IMPORTANT, VERY HIGHLY

9:24:26AM RESPECTED INDIVIDUAL, A LEGEND, A LIVING LEGEND WORKING SIDE
9:24:29AM BY SIDE WITH DR. KING, WITH THE KING FAMILY.
9:24:33AM AND BEFORE I GO TO THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, I WANT TO
9:24:35AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR POSITIVE MESSAGE THIS MORNING.
9:24:39AM WHY CAN'T WE GET ALONG?
9:24:40AM WHY CAN'T WE LIVE TOGETHER.
9:24:42AM IT'S HUBRIS.
9:24:43AM IT'S EGO.
9:24:44AM IT'S PRIDE.
9:24:44AM IT'S ALL THESE THINGS THAT NEGATE ALL THE POSITIVITY IN OUR
9:24:48AM LIVES BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE SO SIMPLE TO GET ALONG.
9:24:52AM YOU'VE WITNESSED IT FIRSTHAND THE PAINS, THE STRUGGLES, IN
9:24:56AM YOUR LIFE GROWING UP, AS YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR STORY HOW
9:25:02AM BEAUTIFUL THE DIVERSITY, THE DIVERSITY IN THE CITY.
9:25:05AM SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR STARTING THIS DAY ON A POSITIVE
9:25:09AM NOTE AND SHARING YOUR LIGHT AND YOUR ENERGY WITH US.
9:25:12AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:25:12AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:25:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:25:15AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:25:16AM THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR BRINGING THIS WONDERFUL, AMAZING WOMAN
9:25:19AM HERE.
9:25:20AM SUCH AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU HERE, MA'AM.
9:25:22AM I ECHO THE WORDS THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND CHAIRMAN
9:25:26AM MANISCALCO SAID.

9:25:26AM YOU COMING FROM ATLANTA, CITY OF SO MANY GREAT TITANS AND
9:25:30AM CIVIL RIGHTS, NOT JUST REVEREND KING, BUT NAMES THAT EVERY
9:25:33AM GOOD AMERICAN SHOULD KNOW, PEOPLE LIKE JOHN LEWIS, PEOPLE
9:25:36AM LIKE HOSEA WILLIAMS, SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
9:25:39AM MAYOR ANDREW YOUNG, REVEREND JOSEPH LOWRY, SO MANY JUST
9:25:44AM AMAZING INDIVIDUALS WHO MEAN SO MUCH TO THE AMERICAN
9:25:46AM JOURNEY.
9:25:47AM AND YOUR WORDS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER TODAY.
9:25:49AM VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TODAY.
9:25:51AM WHEN I FEEL THAT WE, YOU KNOW, OFTEN TURN OUR BACK ON
9:25:54AM DIVERSITY AND DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT REVEREND KING AND OTHER
9:25:57AM GOOD, GREAT LEADERS OF THE TIME, LIKE BOBBY KENNEDY AND
9:25:59AM OTHERS CHAMPIONED, THAT DREAM IS STILL ALIVE TODAY.
9:26:03AM BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WE REMEMBER IT.
9:26:05AM THANK YOU SO MUCH, MA'AM AND GOD BLESS YOU.
9:26:07AM >> THANK YOU.
9:26:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:26:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:26:09AM AGAIN, IT'S A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE.
9:26:11AM BUT MORE INVIGORATING THAN ANYTHING YOU SAID IS THAT THE
9:26:15AM LIFE SPAN THAT YOU'VE GONE THROUGH, WHAT YOUR EYES HAVE
9:26:17AM SEEN, WHAT YOU NOTICED WHEN YOU WERE A LITTLE CHILD AND NOW
9:26:20AM YOU ARE A YOUNG 93.
9:26:23AM I LOOK AT YOU NOT ONLY AS A PERSON WHO HAS DONE THINGS
9:26:26AM HISTORICALLY, BUT FOR A PERSON WHO TAKES ONE STEP AT A TIME

9:26:29AM AND MARCHES FORWARD.
9:26:31AM DOESN'T HAVE TO LOOK LEFT.
9:26:32AM DOESN'T HAVE TO LOOK RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE CREATED YOUR
9:26:35AM OWN IDEA OF WHAT'S RIGHT AND WRONG.
9:26:38AM AND YOU LEARN THAT FROM HANGING AROUND WITH WHO YOU WERE
9:26:41AM WITH.
9:26:42AM YOU LEARN THAT FROM YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS.
9:26:44AM YOU LEARNED THAT FROM THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU WHERE YOU LIVED.
9:26:46AM AND I THINK SOCIETY TODAY IS MISSING A LOT OF CONVERSATION
9:26:50AM WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.
9:26:51AM MORE THAN LIKELY NOW IN AMERICA, IF YOU ASK SOMEBODY WHAT
9:26:54AM YOUR NEIGHBOR'S NAME TO YOUR LEFT AND TO YOUR RIGHT, THEY
9:26:57AM WOULDN'T KNOW.
9:26:58AM IN YOUR DAYS, IN MY DAYS, BECAUSE I'M ONLY TEN YEARS YOUNGER
9:27:01AM THAN YOU, MAYBE A LITTLE, MORE OR LESS,.
9:27:04AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:27:04AM I LIKE THE WAY YOU PRESENT YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU HAVE HUMOR.
9:27:09AM HUMOR IS A SALVATION THOUGHT OF THE MIND AND MAKING YOU
9:27:15AM UNDERSTAND.
9:27:15AM LOT MORE THINGS THAN BAD THINGS HAPPENING EVERY DAY IN EVERY
9:27:19AM CITY OF THE WORLD.
9:27:20AM CONGRATULATIONS FOR WHO YOU ARE, WHAT YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU
9:27:22AM STAND FOR.
9:27:23AM APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
9:27:24AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

9:27:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING HERE TODAY AND
9:27:28AM COMING BEFORE US AND TO THE PUBLIC.
9:27:31AM THANK YOU FOR INSPIRING US AND REMINDING US OF THE --
9:27:35AM REMINDING US OF THE GREAT STORIES OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS
9:27:37AM MOVEMENT.
9:27:38AM UNFORTUNATELY, THE STRUGGLE STILL CONTINUES AND WE'RE ALL IN
9:27:41AM IT EVERY DAY.
9:27:42AM THERE ARE A LOT OF LOCAL CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS SITTING BEHIND
9:27:44AM YOU.
9:27:45AM EVERYBODY STRUGGLES EVERY DAY TO CONTINUE TO FIND THAT
9:27:47AM EQUALITY THAT DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING AND YOU AND OTHERS HAVE
9:27:51AM TALKED ABOUT TOO MANY YEARS AGO.
9:27:54AM SO WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING TOWARD THAT.
9:27:56AM JUST SO YOU KNOW, MY KIDS ALSO, COUNCILMAN VIERA'S KIDS HAVE
9:28:03AM GROWN UP GOING TO PLACES LIKE EBENEZER BAPTIST CHURCH AND
9:28:06AM THE CIVIL RIGHTS MUSEUM AND OTHERS.
9:28:08AM WE'RE TRYING TO REMIND THE NEXT GENERATION -- AND I HAVE TO
9:28:10AM TELL YOU A QUICK STORY.
9:28:11AM I TOOK MY KIDS TO ATLANTA LAST YEAR AND WE WENT ON A MARVEL
9:28:15AM MOVIE TOUR.
9:28:16AM THE COMIC MOVIE TOUR.
9:28:19AM AND WE WENT TO -- WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MOVIE BLACK
9:28:22AM PANTHER AND WE WENT TO A PARKING LOT WHERE IN THE MOVIE
9:28:25AM THERE WERE KIDS PLAYING BASKETBALL AND THEY WERE LOOKING UP
9:28:27AM AT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX.

9:28:30AM AND THE MOVIE GUY WAS TELLING US ABOUT HOW RYAN COOGLER, THE
9:28:35AM DIRECTOR, WAS INSPIRED BY DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, AND HE
9:28:38AM SAID, TURN AROUND.
9:28:39AM WHEN WE TURNED AROUND, IN THE MOVIE, THE VIDEO JUST PANS
9:28:43AM AROUND AND YOU CAN SEE THE BACKGROUND WITH THE KIDS PLAYING
9:28:46AM BASKETBALL.
9:28:46AM BUT WHEN WE TURNED AROUND IT WAS THE ORIGINAL EBENEZER
9:28:49AM BAPTIST CHURCH.
9:28:50AM WE ALL GOT CHILLS THINKING ABOUT HOW THE NEXT GENERATION IS
9:28:53AM CONTINUING TO CARRY THE MESSAGE YOU ALL WENT FORWARD AND
9:28:55AM TELLING THE HISTORY IN NEW AND INNOVATIVE WAYS SO THAT EVERY
9:28:58AM KID AROUND THE WORLD KNOWS WHAT YOU DID.
9:29:00AM THANK YOU.
9:29:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND THEN HURTAK.
9:29:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO TAMPA, A VERY
9:29:08AM INCLUSIVE CITY, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY MANY YEARS AGO I
9:29:12AM CHOSE TO MOVE TO THE CITY TO RAISE MY CHILDREN BECAUSE WE
9:29:14AM ARE A WELCOMING CITY THAT VALUES THE DIVERSITY.
9:29:18AM AND FOR COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, WHEN SHE SAID WE WERE VERY
9:29:22AM BEAUTIFUL, SHE WAS LOCKING EYES WITH ME.
9:29:24AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:29:25AM I SAW THAT.
9:29:27AM THANK YOU.
9:29:27AM IT'S SO CLEAR TO ME, THIS IS RECENT HISTORY, NOT ANCIENT
9:29:36AM HISTORY THAT SHE SPOKE OF AND THE WORLD THAT SHE LIVED IN.

9:29:39AM UNFORTUNATELY ALL TOO OFTEN IT'S THE WORLD THAT PEOPLE TODAY
9:29:42AM IN 2023 LIVE IN.
9:29:43AM AND IT MAY NOT BE AS VOCAL.
9:29:45AM IT MAY NOT BE AS IN YOUR FACE, BUT THERE'S THIS SYSTEMIC
9:29:52AM DISCRIMINATION AND RACISM THAT RUNS THROUGH NOT JUST THIS
9:29:55AM COUNTRY BUT MANY COUNTRIES IN THIS WORLD.
9:29:57AM IMPORTANT VOICES LIKE YOURS STILL ECHO LOUD IN HALLS.
9:30:03AM BECAUSE YOUR VOICE WILL BE A REMINDER TO THE YOUNGER PEOPLE
9:30:06AM THAT ONCE YOU AND I AND OTHERS ARE GONE, THEY WILL BE ABLE
9:30:09AM TO PICK UP THAT TORCH AND RUN WITH IT.
9:30:12AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT.
9:30:13AM YOU KNOW, THE FIGHT FOR CIVIL RIGHTS WILL NEVER END.
9:30:16AM IT'S LIKE A GARDEN.
9:30:18AM YOU CAN HAVE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL GARDEN BUT ALWAYS GOING TO
9:30:20AM BE SOME WEEDS AND YOU HAVE TO PULL THOSE WEEDS.
9:30:22AM IF YOU IGNORE IT, THE WEEDS WILL OVERCOME.
9:30:25AM AND UNFORTUNATELY WE SEE IN THE LAST 10 OR 15 YEARS IN THIS
9:30:29AM COUNTRY, WE SEE A LOT OF WEEDS GROWING THAT WE HAVE TO
9:30:31AM CONTINUE TO TENDER AFTER.
9:30:33AM SO THANK YOU, ONE, FOR BEING A GREAT GARDENER.
9:30:36AM THANK YOU FOR BEING A STEWARD FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND BEING AN
9:30:39AM EXAMPLE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.
9:30:41AM THANK YOU.
9:30:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:30:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.

9:30:43AM THANK YOU FOR COMING AND FOR YOUR MESSAGE TODAY.
9:30:47AM I REALLY -- YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THAT WE'RE JUST CONTINUING TO
9:30:52AM FIGHT.
9:30:53AM BECAUSE AS COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN SAID, IT WOULD BE NICE TO
9:30:57AM THINK THAT THOSE LESSONS WERE LEARNED BUT HATRED IS ON THE
9:31:00AM RISE IN THIS CITY AND IN THIS STATE AND IN THIS NATION.
9:31:04AM AND IT'S SAD.
9:31:05AM IT'S UNFORTUNATE.
9:31:08AM BUT WHAT -- I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE PAST WHO
9:31:12AM ARE STILL TELLING THE STORY, WHO HAVE LIVED IT BEFORE AND
9:31:15AM CAN SAY, HEY, IF WE DON'T TEND THIS GARDEN, WE ARE GOING TO
9:31:20AM REPEAT WHAT HAPPENED.
9:31:25AM AND SOME DAYS IT FEELS LIKE WE CAN'T.
9:31:29AM SO I THINK YOUR MESSAGE TO ME PARTICULARLY TODAY WAS VERY
9:31:33AM INSPIRATIONAL ABOUT NOT GIVING UP, ABOUT CONTINUING TO
9:31:36AM FIGHT, AND YOUR LEGACY AND EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO
9:31:40AM CONTINUE TO FIGHT OVER THE YEARS IS VERY INSPIRING.
9:31:44AM AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
9:31:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:31:47AM IT'S A REAL HONOR.
9:31:49AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:31:50AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:32:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR TAMPA POLICE OFFICER
9:32:59AM OF THE MONTH.
9:33:01AM COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL DO THE PRESENTATION.

9:33:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:28AM GO AHEAD.
9:33:29AM THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:33:32AM IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE HERE TODAY TO HELP PRESENT THE TAMPA
9:33:36AM CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION FOR TAMPA POLICE OFFICER OF THE
9:33:38AM MONTH.
9:33:40AM AS I ALWAYS SAY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO BECAUSE IT
9:33:43AM REFLECTS THE VALUES OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE THAT
9:33:46AM STRONGLY SUPPORTS OUR POLICE OFFICERS AS WELL AS OUR
9:33:48AM FIREFIGHTERS.
9:33:50AM AS OUR COMMUNITY HEROES WHO RUN INTO SITUATIONS THAT THE
9:33:52AM VAST MAJORITY OF US, STARTING WITH MYSELF, WOULD RUN AWAY
9:33:55AM FROM.
9:33:56AM AND THAT'S WHY WE DO THIS, TO REFLECT THOSE VALUES AND TO
9:34:00AM MAKE SURE TO REMIND OUR COMMUNITY OF THINGS THEY CAN ASPIRE
9:34:03AM TO AS GREAT TAMPE OS AND ACTS OF HEROISM AND SACRIFICE THAT
9:34:10AM WE SHOULD ALWAYS, ALWAYS HONOR.
9:34:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:34:15AM THAT IS A TOUGH ONE TO FOLLOW THERE.
9:34:17AM MIKE HUTNER, DEPUTY CHIEF HERE ON BEHALF OF CHIEF BERCAW.
9:34:20AM IT'S AN HONOR TO DO THIS.
9:34:24AM OFFICER REGO IS A GREAT FRIEND AND GREAT WORKER.
9:34:28AM I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO DO THIS TODAY.
9:34:29AM SERVING THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR 12 YEARS, MASTER POLICE
9:34:32AM OFFICER JERRY REGO PLAYS AN INTEGRAL PART IN SECURITY

9:34:35AM OPERATIONS FOR LARGE-SCALE EVENTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:34:37AM INCLUDING THOSE HELD AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM, WHICH CAN
9:34:41AM ATTRACT BETWEEN 40,000 AND 60,000 SPECTATORS.
9:34:44AM IN ADDITION TO PLANNING SECURITY FOR REGULAR SEASON FOOTBALL
9:34:48AM GAMES, FOR THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA, AND THE TAMPA
9:34:52AM BAY BUCCANEERS, OFFICER REGO ALSO PLAYED A VITAL ROLE IN THE
9:34:56AM PLANNING FOR SUPER BOWL LV AND WRESTLE MANIA, WERE JUST A
9:35:00AM COUPLE OF MONTHS APART.
9:35:01AM RECENTLY, THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE CONDUCTED A SECURITY
9:35:04AM AUDIT WHERE THEY RANKED THE CITY OF TAMPA NUMBER 2 OUT OF 32
9:35:08AM NFL HOST CITIES FOR MOST THOROUGH SAFETY PLANNING AND
9:35:12AM CONSIDERATIONS.
9:35:13AM THIS RECOGNITION WAS, IN PART, DUE TO OFFICER REGO'S
9:35:16AM UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO KEEPING SPECTATORS SAFE.
9:35:20AM ASIDE FROM HIS RESPONSIBILITIES AT RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM,
9:35:23AM THIS YEAR, OFFICER REGO WAS TASKED WITH THE SAFETY PLANNING
9:35:27AM FOR THE GASPARILLA CHILDREN'S PARADE, WHICH IS THE SECOND
9:35:31AM LARGEST CHILDREN'S PARADE IN THE NATION.
9:35:32AM WITHOUT HESITATION, HE TACKLED THE CHALLENGE HEAD ON AND THE
9:35:37AM PARADE WAS AN ALL-AROUND SUCCESS.
9:35:39AM JUST A WEEK LATER WAS THE FULL GASPARILLA INVASION AND
9:35:42AM PARADE FOR WHICH HE ALSO ASSISTED WITH SECURITY AND
9:35:45AM LOGISTICAL PLANNING.
9:35:47AM OFFICER REGO'S CURRENT ASSIGNMENT HAS HIM RESPONSIBLE FOR
9:35:51AM ORGANIZING THE LOGISTICS FOR A FULL-SCALE ACTIVE SHOOTER

9:35:54AM EXERCISE THAT WILL INCLUDE THE MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA POLICE
9:35:56AM DEPARTMENT, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND THE CITY OF TAMPA OFFICE
9:36:00AM OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
9:36:01AM IT CAN BE SAID WITH FULL CONFIDENCE THAT THIS LARGE-SCALE
9:36:05AM TRAINING EXERCISE IS IN THE HAND OF SOMEONE WE CAN ALL TRUST
9:36:09AM AND COUNT ON.
9:36:09AM HIS PROFICIENCY AND KNOWLEDGE IN PLANNING LARGE-SCALE
9:36:15AM SECURITY OPERATIONS, PAIRED WITH HIS ABILITY TO ALWAYS GO
9:36:17AM ABOVE AND BEYOND TO ASSIST DURING THESE EVENTS, ARE THE
9:36:20AM REASONS MASTER POLICE OFFICER JERRY REGO IS BEING RECOGNIZED
9:36:25AM AS THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR
9:36:27AM AUGUST 2023.
9:36:29AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:36:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK AND BEFORE WE
9:36:41AM HEAR FROM VERY GRATEFUL COUNCIL MEMBERS, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME
9:36:44AM MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE HERE TO HONOR YOU WITH
9:36:47AM GIFTS.
9:36:47AM GO AHEAD, GUYS.
9:36:52AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:36:53AM BRANDON BARCLAY, TAMPA PBA, HERE TO PRESENT A PLAQUE TO
9:36:58AM OFFICER REGO.
9:36:58AM I HAD THE PRIVILEGE WHEN HE WAS HIRED OF HIM RELIEVING ME AT
9:37:02AM NIGHT SO WE CAN TELL WAR STORIES LATER.
9:37:04AM THIS IS THE PLAQUE.
9:37:05AM CONGRATULATIONS.

9:37:06AM YOU ALWAYS DO A GREAT JOB.
9:37:10AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:37:11AM GOOD MORNING, OFFICER REGO.
9:37:12AM GRACE GONZALEZ, HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY AND
9:37:15AM 1905 FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS.
9:37:17AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR 12 YEARS OF DEDICATION TO THIS
9:37:19AM CITY.
9:37:20AM WE WANT TO THANK YOU AND REWARD YOU WITH THIS GIFT CARD TO
9:37:23AM ANY OF OUR LOCATIONS AROUND FLORIDA.
9:37:25AM PLEASE ENJOY WITH YOUR FAMILY AND A NIGHT OFF.
9:37:28AM >> LOVE YOUR RESTAURANTS.
9:37:29AM >> AND REFUEL.
9:37:30AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:37:32AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:37:33AM JILL WITECKI FROM TAMPA THEATRE.
9:37:36AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE
9:37:38AM THE GOOD WORK THAT THESE OFFICERS DO IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:37:41AM ON BEHALF OF THE HISTORIC TAMPA THEATRE, OFFER YOU AND YOUR
9:37:43AM FAMILY AN ANNUAL PASS TO COME SEE US AT ANY TIME.
9:37:46AM >> THANK YOU.
9:37:47AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:37:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:37:51AM MARK HANEY WITH ZOO TAMPA.
9:37:52AM ON BEHALF OF OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS, WE WOULD LIKE TO
9:37:55AM PRESENT YOU WITH A YEAR MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO FOR YOU AND

9:37:59AM YOUR FAMILY.
9:38:00AM ZOO GOODIES HERE.
9:38:01AM THERE IS A SLOTH IN THERE, WHICH IS DEFINITELY NOT YOUR
9:38:03AM SPIRIT ANIMAL BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE BUSY AND WORKING
9:38:06AM HARD.
9:38:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:38:08AM >> YES, SIR.
9:38:08AM THANK YOU.
9:38:09AM APPRECIATE YOU.
9:38:10AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:38:12AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR DEDICATION TO THE CITY.
9:38:19AM WE GAVE YOU A BILL CURTIS SWAG BAG AS WELL AS A GIFT
9:38:27AM CERTIFICATE.
9:38:28AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:38:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:38:36AM BRIAN WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
9:38:39AM HUMBLED TO BE HERE ON SUCH AN HISTORIC MORNING WITH COUNCIL.
9:38:42AM SO THANK YOU.
9:38:43AM THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING THIS PROGRAM.
9:38:45AM OFFICER REGO, THANK YOU.
9:38:47AM WE'RE GOING TO BE BUSY ON SATURDAYS.
9:38:49AM >> YES, SIR, I'LL BE THERE.
9:38:50AM >> ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE
9:38:52AM ORGANIZATION, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU NOT ONLY AT RAYMOND
9:38:55AM JAMES STADIUM, BUT THROUGHOUT YOUR CAREER AND ALL THAT YOU

9:38:59AM DO FOR THE CITY, YOUR FAMILY SACRIFICE.
9:39:02AM AS YOU HEARD ME SAY, WE HAVE A LITTLE TRADITION AT ONE BUC
9:39:05AM TO RECOGNIZE PEOPLE THAT GO OVER AND ABOVE.
9:39:07AM YOU, MY FRIEND, DEFINITELY GO OVER AND ABOVE.
9:39:10AM LITTLE GAME BALL FOR YOU SIR.
9:39:12AM >> APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.
9:39:14AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:39:14AM GO BUCS.
9:39:17AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:39:18AM RUBEN DELGADO, HERE ON BEHALF --
9:39:21AM >> NOT SURE WHO HE IS.
9:39:23AM GET HIM OUT OF HERE.
9:39:24AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:39:25AM >> GO DRAGONS.
9:39:26AM >> THANK YOU.
9:39:26AM ON BEHALF OF HERITAGE CEO ERNIE GARATEIX AND THE NEXT LEVEL
9:39:30AM BRAND, ANDREW WRIGHT, JEFF GIGANTE AND JOE GUGGINO -- THIS
9:39:36AM IS GOING TO BE FUN.
9:39:37AM GIVE YOU TWO GIFT CERTIFICATES TO RESTAURANTS.
9:39:40AM I WILL SAY THAT DURING SUPER BOWL, I HAD A PART OF PLANNING
9:39:44AM THE SUPER BOWL.
9:39:45AM HE WORKED OUT OF MY OFFICE ABOUT A YEAR, I THINK.
9:39:47AM JEFF AND JERRY.
9:39:49AM I'LL TELL YOU THAT IT WOULDN'T HAVE GONE AS SMOOTH AS IT DID
9:39:52AM WITHOUT THEIR WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.

9:39:55AM NOBODY REALLY KNOWS THE WORK THEY DO FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
9:39:57AM THE CITY LIKES TO DO SPECIAL EVENTS.
9:40:01AM THEY ARE ALL SAFE.
9:40:02AM THEY COME AND GO.
9:40:03AM EVERYBODY HAS A GOOD TIME.
9:40:04AM IT'S BECAUSE OF HIS WORK AND HIS TEAM.
9:40:06AM IT IS TRULY OVERDUE.
9:40:07AM I DID TAKE YOU TO DINNER.
9:40:10AM SO THERE'S $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE.
9:40:12AM I DID.
9:40:13AM $50 GIFT CERTIFICATE, $50 AND $100 FOR THE NEXT LEVEL
9:40:21AM RESTAURANT.
9:40:23AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:40:29AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:40:30AM PETE BREVI ON BEHALF OF STEWART CLARK AND BUSCH GARDENS OF
9:40:34AM TAMPA BAY.
9:40:34AM AS I SAY EVERY MONTH, THANK YOU FOR THE CONTINUED SUPPORT OF
9:40:37AM LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CONTINUING TO RECOGNIZE THE INCREDIBLE
9:40:41AM WORK THEY DO EACH AND EVERY DAY.
9:40:43AM OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS FOR THE MONTH OF AUGUST, BUT WE OBVIOUSLY
9:40:46AM KNOW THAT THIS WORK THAT THEY DO IS YEAR-ROUND, 24 HOURS A
9:40:49AM DAY.
9:40:50AM ON BEHALF OF NOT ONLY THE GUESTS THAT VISIT OUR CITY, BUT
9:40:53AM THE CITIZENS AS WELL.
9:40:53AM I'M SORRY THAT I DON'T HAVE FOOD.

9:40:57AM I KNOW THAT YOU LIKE FOOD.
9:40:59AM >> I DO?
9:40:59AM >> YEAH, APPARENTLY.
9:41:00AM WORD ON THE WALL THAT YOU LIKE FOOD.
9:41:03AM BUT WE DO HAVE FOOD AT THE PARK.
9:41:05AM SO ON BEHALF OF BUSCH GARDENS, FOUR TICKETS TO COME VISIT
9:41:08AM OUR PARK SOMEDAY, UNLIMITED FOOD AND I GO --
9:41:11AM >> THANK YOU.
9:41:18AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:41:20AM >> MIRANDA HILTON FROM STEPP'S TOWING.
9:41:24AM ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP AND THE STEPP'S TOWING TEAM WE
9:41:29AM APPRECIATE YOU AND THANK YOU AND PRESENT YOU WITH A
9:41:31AM FIVE-HOUR LIMO RIDE FOR YOU AND 17 OF YOUR CLOSEST FAMILY
9:41:36AM AND FRIENDS AS WELL AS -- 17.
9:41:40AM AS WELL AS A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR $50 AT PUBLIX.
9:41:44AM THANK YOU.
9:41:44AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:41:45AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:41:46AM >> APPRECIATE IT.
9:41:47AM HAVE A GREAT DAY.
9:41:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:41:51AM WE'RE BACK.
9:41:52AM WE MET EARLIER.
9:41:54AM I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON BEING SELECTED.
9:41:58AM ON BEHALF OF THE YUMMY HOUSE CHINA -- MY NAME IS STEVE

9:42:01AM MICHELINI, BY THE WAY.
9:42:03AM BEHALF OF YUMMY HOUSE BISTRO, PROVIDING YOU WITH A GIFT
9:42:06AM CERTIFICATE SO YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF AND ALL THE THINGS
9:42:08AM THAT PETE BREVI SAID YOU COULDN'T HAVE.
9:42:11AM ON BEHALF OF BELLABRAVA, WE'RE PROVIDING YOU WITH ANOTHER
9:42:14AM GIFT CERTIFICATE SO YOU CAN ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE.
9:42:16AM ON BEHALF OF MEAT MARKET TAMPA AND OLD HYDE PARK, ENJOY
9:42:21AM YOURSELF THERE.
9:42:22AM AND ON BEHALF OF THE CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, YOU CAN ENJOY
9:42:26AM YOURSELF.
9:42:28AM >> THANK YOU.
9:42:29AM >> IN BETWEEN ALL THOSE GAMES AT THE STADIUM.
9:42:32AM >> I'LL BE THERE SATURDAY.
9:42:33AM ARE YOU COMING OUT?
9:42:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:42:36AM AS YOU ALL CAN TELL FROM THAT, THERE IS A REAL OUTPOURING OF
9:42:40AM SUPPORT FOR THIS GENTLEMAN AND WHATNOT.
9:42:42AM SO WE WOULD LIKE TO, SIR, ON BEHALF OF A VERY GRATEFUL TAMPA
9:42:46AM CITY COUNCIL AND CITY OF TAMPA GIVE YOU THIS COMMENDATION,
9:42:48AM SIR.
9:42:48AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.
9:42:50AM THANK YOU.
9:42:52AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:43:01AM >> I HAVE A FEW NOTES.
9:43:02AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.

9:43:04AM IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE ON THE SAME DAY AS THE DOCTOR.
9:43:07AM INSPIRATIONAL.
9:43:07AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME, CITY COUNCIL.
9:43:09AM APPRECIATE YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.
9:43:09AM YOU GUYS HAVE DONE GREAT FOR OUR CITY.
9:43:11AM I'M BORN AND RAISED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, ACTUALLY THE
9:43:14AM COUNTY, BUT WORKED HERE FOR MANY YEARS AND I APPRECIATE ALL
9:43:16AM YOU GUYS.
9:43:17AM YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
9:43:19AM THANK YOU TO THE CHIEFS.
9:43:21AM I KNOW CHIEF BERCAW DID HAVE TO GO.
9:43:26AM THANK CHIEF HUTNER FOR DOING THE PRESENTATION, CHIEF
9:43:30AM JOHNSON, ALL THE STAFF, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO PUT ME UP
9:43:33AM HERE, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
9:43:34AM THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME ACTUALLY IS MY SQUAD WHEN IT
9:43:38AM COMES TO WORK.
9:43:39AM YOU GUYS OVER HERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SQUAD OVER HERE,
9:43:41AM JEFF, MY PARTNER, J AND J PRODUCTIONS WE CALL IT, HE HELPED
9:43:45AM ME WITH THE SUPER BOWL.
9:43:47AM IF THEY KNOW ME, THEY KNOW JEFF.
9:43:49AM THEY KNOW JEFF MORE THAN ME.
9:43:51AM JEFF, LOVE YA, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:43:53AM CAPTAIN DELHEY, ACTIVE MAJOR, WAS MY CAPTAIN UP TO TWO DAYS
9:43:59AM AGO.
9:43:59AM CAPTAIN BROWN, MY CAPTAIN, APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE.

9:44:02AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:44:03AM LIEUTENANT BARRY, THANK YOU GUYS, MY SQUAD, MY BROTHER,
9:44:07AM TODD, EVERYBODY KNOWS YA.
9:44:08AM WHEN I WON THIS AWARD, I THOUGHT IT WAS A MISTAKE AND IT WAS
9:44:12AM FOR MY BROTHER.
9:44:13AM HE'S BEEN HERE 23 YEARS.
9:44:14AM EVERYBODY KNOWS HE IS A GREAT COP.
9:44:17AM HE IS RETIRED BUT BACK WITH THE SQUAD.
9:44:18AM I LOVE HAVING MY BROTHER ON THE SQUAD.
9:44:21AM TOM BERRY.
9:44:23AM HE'S WON THE AWARD FOUR TIMES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
9:44:25AM EVERYBODY PROBABLY KNOWS TOM.
9:44:27AM APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
9:44:28AM NEW SERGEANT HERE, WENDY.
9:44:29AM I DO HAVE MY GIRLFRIEND HERE OF MANY, MANY YEARS.
9:44:34AM GABBY.
9:44:35AM I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND SUPPORTIVE.
9:44:37AM MY FAMILY, THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING VERY SUPPORTIVE.
9:44:40AM MAKE SURE I DIDN'T MISS ANYBODY HERE.
9:44:41AM OH, WHERE IS GIGI.
9:44:44AM THANK YOU, GIGI, THANK YOU, LYDIA.
9:44:48AM YOU GUYS HAVE HELPED ME WITH EVERYTHING.
9:44:50AM THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THE GIFTS.
9:44:59AM APPRECIATE YOU, THE PBA.
9:45:01AM APPRECIATE EVERYTHING, GUYS.

9:45:02AM I LOVE WORKING FOR THE CITY.
9:45:03AM BORN AND RAISED HERE.
9:45:04AM IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE.
9:45:05AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:45:06AM TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT.
9:45:07AM I LIKE TO RAMBLE ON.
9:45:09AM THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.
9:45:11AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:45:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS.
9:45:21AM OBVIOUSLY VERY WELL DESERVED BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS
9:45:24AM MANY GUESTS FOR AN OFFICER AND THIS MUCH SUPPORT.
9:45:27AM YOU ARE LOVED AND RESPECTED.
9:45:28AM WE'RE GRATEFUL EVERY TIME YOU PUT ON THAT UNIFORM.
9:45:30AM THE SACRIFICE YOU MAKE.
9:45:32AM THE SACRIFICE YOUR FAMILY MAKES BECAUSE IT'S NOT EASY.
9:45:35AM OBVIOUSLY, YOUR REPUTATION SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
9:45:39AM YOU'RE A GREAT GENTLEMAN AND A GREAT OFFICER.
9:45:41AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
9:45:42AM VERY WELL DESERVED.
9:45:44AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:45:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T THINK I'VE SEEN AN ENTOURAGE LIKE
9:45:48AM THIS WITH ANY OTHERS BEFORE.
9:45:50AM >> IT'S ALL BECAUSE JEFF IS HERE AND YOU GUYS.
9:45:54AM TRUST ME.
9:45:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANTED TO SAY IF YOU WATCH MOVIES OR

9:46:01AM READ BOOKS, THERE ARE SO MANY TERRIFYING THINGS OUT THERE IN
9:46:05AM THE WORLD.
9:46:06AM IF YOU WATCH -- I DON'T WANT TO NAME ANY SPECIFIC ONES -- IF
9:46:09AM YOU WATCH THE THINGS, YOU WOULD NEVER GO TO A PUBLIC EVENT.
9:46:12AM THE ONLY REASON THAT WE CAN GO TO PUBLIC EVENTS AND FEEL
9:46:15AM SAFE IS BECAUSE OF YOU AND YOUR TEAM WHO PROTECT US LIKE
9:46:21AM THAT.
9:46:21AM I CAN'T IMAGINE ALL THE DIFFERENT PLACES YOU HAVE TO LOOK
9:46:23AM UNDER AND ALL THE PEOPLE YOU HAVE TO FILTER THROUGH AND
9:46:25AM EVERYTHING, BUT THESE BIG EVENTS ARE SUCH RISKY THINGS.
9:46:29AM WE'RE SO THANKFUL THAT YOU KEEP US ALL SAFE.
9:46:31AM THANK YOU.
9:46:32AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
9:46:34AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:46:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:46:38AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO.
9:46:39AM I THINK THIS IS THE MOST INTERESTING THING ABOUT DOING THESE
9:46:43AM OFFICER OF THE MONTH IS THAT EVERYONE HAS A REAL SPECIALTY.
9:46:48AM AND YOUR SPECIALTY IS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, GIANT
9:46:52AM EVENT PLANNING.
9:46:53AM AND THAT'S A LOT.
9:46:55AM THAT'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
9:46:59AM I WANT TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT OUR POLICE
9:47:03AM DEPARTMENT FINDS THE RIGHT -- ALLOWS OUR OFFICERS TO FIND
9:47:08AM THEIR BEST FIT.

9:47:09AM SO WE'RE REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU AND THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO
9:47:13AM FIND YOUR WAY TO THIS POSITION, THAT YOU JUST OBVIOUSLY ARE
9:47:15AM REALLY GOOD AT IT.
9:47:17AM IT'S A NATURAL.
9:47:18AM SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO.
9:47:21AM IT DOES MAKE PEOPLE FEEL SAFER WHEN THEY GO TO THESE LARGE
9:47:25AM EVENTS.
9:47:26AM BUT JUST THE AMOUNT OF WORK IN YOUR HEAD, THE ORGANIZING,
9:47:29AM THE MAKING SURE ALL THE MOVING PARTS ARE WORKING IS REALLY
9:47:32AM IMPRESSIVE.
9:47:33AM SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
9:47:35AM >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:47:36AM APPRECIATE YOU.
9:47:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE DAY IS
9:47:43AM TAMPA LOVES SPECIAL EVENTS.
9:47:44AM TRUE.
9:47:45AM WE LOVE OUR LARGE-SCALE EVENTS.
9:47:48AM SAFETY ISN'T AN ACCIDENT.
9:47:49AM I THINK THOSE OF US INVOLVED UNDERSTAND THAT.
9:47:51AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING AND BASED ON THE CROWD THAT TURNS
9:47:53AM OUT, I THINK WE NEED TO -- YOU NEED TO LOOK INTO A SECOND
9:47:56AM LIMOUSINE TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE PEOPLE.
9:48:00AM >> I APPRECIATE WHAT I HAVE.
9:48:01AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:48:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS.

9:48:03AM OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE ADMIRE YOU AND THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
9:48:06AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:48:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CONGRATULATIONS.
9:48:08AM I LOVE YOUR PASSION AND ENTHUSIASM, GIVING A SHOUT-OUT TO
9:48:12AM THE BROTHERHOOD AND SISTERHOOD OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:48:15AM I CAN SEE YOU ALL LOVE ONE ANOTHER VERY MUCH.
9:48:17AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:48:18AM THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY.
9:48:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DID FORGET ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE IN
9:48:22AM THE WORLD.
9:48:22AM SAM MERCHANT.
9:48:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BY THE WAY, YOUR GIRLFRIEND IS HERE.
9:48:27AM YOUR GIRLFRIEND IS HERE.
9:48:30AM SHE KNOWS ALL THE RESTAURANTS THAT YOU GOT GIFT CARDS FOR.
9:48:33AM I JUST WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THAT SHE KNOWS YOU GOT THOSE
9:48:37AM GIFT CARDS.
9:48:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:48:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT MUCH TO SAY.
9:48:52AM YOUR CROWD HERE IS BIGGER THAN MOST POLITICIANS GET ON
9:48:56AM ELECTION DAY VOTES.
9:48:56AM YOU DON'T NEED A LIMOUSINE.
9:48:59AM YOU NEED A TRAIN WITH ABOUT TEN CARS BEHIND YOU.
9:49:02AM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE EATING, BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, EVERY
9:49:08AM ONE YOU GOT IS A GREAT RESTAURANT.
9:49:11AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU.

9:49:12AM SERIOUS NOTE, IT TAKES ONE POLICE OFFICER TO MAKE ONE GOOD
9:49:18AM POLICE FORCE.
9:49:19AM WHEN YOU DO THAT AND YOU DO THAT ON A DAILY BASIS, EACH ONE,
9:49:22AM EVERY DAY, YOU GOT ONE HELL OF A GREAT POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:49:25AM AND YOU HAVE CAMARADERIE AND HELP FOR EACH OTHER AND HELP
9:49:28AM FOR THE PEOPLE YOU SERVE.
9:49:30AM IT'S HARDER TO BE A POLICE OFFICER THAN BEING AN ELECTED
9:49:34AM OFFICIAL BECAUSE YOU CATCH HELL NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO.
9:49:40AM WE CATCH IT ONCE IN A WHILE.
9:49:42AM YOU GUYS CATCH IT ALL THE TIME.
9:49:43AM YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON A HUNDREDTH OF SECOND TO DO
9:49:49AM OR NOT TO DO.
9:49:49AM WE CAN AT LEAST WEIGH ON IT, THINK ABOUT IT, AND THEN DO IT.
9:49:49AM BUT THE POLICE OFFICERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY HAVE ONE
9:49:50AM HUNDREDTH OF A SECOND TO MAKE A DECISION, AND THEY ARE BASED
9:49:56AM ON THAT REALITY BY THE PUBLIC.
9:49:57AM WHAT YOU GUYS DO, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ON ALL FORCES IS
9:50:00AM VERY IMPORTANT TO THE VIABILITY OF WHEREVER YOU WORK AT.
9:50:04AM SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR FORCE.
9:50:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:50:09AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
9:50:10AM WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.
9:50:11AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:50:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:50:13AM CONGRATULATIONS.

9:50:13AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:50:14AM WE'LL TAKE A MOMENT TO CLEAR THE ROOM AND THEN WE HAVE
9:50:32AM ANOTHER COMMENDATION.
9:50:33AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:51:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
9:51:31AM IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE HERE TODAY TO HAVE A TAMPA CITY
9:51:34AM COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO OUR GOOD FRIENDS WHO ARE UP HERE
9:51:37AM WITH ME AT BEST MEDICAL ACADEMY, WHICH STANDS FOR BRAIN
9:51:41AM EXPANSIONS SCHOLASTIC TRAINING MEDICAL ACADEMY.
9:51:43AM MANY OF US HAVE GONE TO THEIR AMAZING EVENTS WHERE THEY
9:51:46AM SUPPORT THE YOUTH.
9:51:47AM THEIR BIG, BIG, BIG PUSH AND MISSION IS TO MAKE SURE WE GET
9:51:51AM MORE MINORITIES IN THE MEDICAL FIELD, PARTICULARLY AS BEING
9:51:55AM DOCTORS.
9:51:55AM THE WHOLE IDEA HERE IS ONE OF OPPORTUNITY, MAKING SURE THAT
9:51:59AM THE YOUNG PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THROUGHOUT
9:52:02AM OUR GREATER TAMPA AREA KNOW OF THE AMAZING OPPORTUNITIES
9:52:06AM THAT ARE BEFORE THEM.
9:52:08AM IF PEOPLE ARE JUST WILLING TO WORK HARD, GO FORWARD,
9:52:11AM ET CETERA, THEY CAN, GOD WILLING, WITH THE HELP OF
9:52:14AM ORGANIZATIONS LIKE BEST, FULFILL THEIR GOD-GIVEN POTENTIAL.
9:52:17AM THAT'S WHAT BEST IS ALL ABOUT, MAKING SURE THAT INDIVIDUALS
9:52:20AM WHO ARE RACIAL AND ETHNIC MINORITIES KNOW ABOUT THE
9:52:24AM OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST AND POTENTIALLY BEING DOCTORS.
9:52:27AM THEY DO REALLY, REALLY AMAZING WORK.

9:52:28AM SO IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
9:52:32AM >> THANK YOU.
9:52:32AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:52:33AM ON BEHALF OF MY HUSBAND, DR. FREDERICK AND I, COFOUNDERS OF
9:52:37AM THE BEST PROGRAM, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THIS
9:52:40AM OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
9:52:43AM IN 2004, BEST BECAME AN OFFICIAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION HERE
9:52:48AM IN THE TAMPA BAY REGION.
9:52:50AM WE ARE PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT SINCE THAT TIME, OVER 5,000
9:52:54AM STUDENTS HAVE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED ONE OR MORE OF OUR MANY
9:52:58AM PROGRAMS.
9:52:58AM AND OUR ENROLLMENT CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
9:53:02AM APPROXIMATELY 100 SCHOLARS TO DATE HAVE EITHER BEEN ACCEPTED
9:53:07AM TO MEDICAL SCHOOL OR ARE IN MEDICAL SCHOOL OR HAVE GRADUATED
9:53:10AM FROM MEDICAL SCHOOL.
9:53:11AM AND THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL THOUSAND SCHOLARS WHO HAVE NOT
9:53:15AM GONE THAT PATH OF MEDICAL SCHOOL BUT OTHER HEALTH-RELATED
9:53:18AM CAREERS.
9:53:18AM AS THE NUMBER OF YOUTH WHO ARE SEEKING TO GET INTO HEALTH
9:53:23AM CARE CAREERS INCREASE, WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THE BEST PROGRAM
9:53:27AM IS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE WAYS TO HELP THEM ACCOMPLISH
9:53:29AM THAT.
9:53:30AM CURRENTLY, WE HAVE STUDENTS ENROLLED IN OUR PROGRAM FROM
9:53:35AM DUNBAR ELEMENTARY, SLIGH MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND TAMPA BAY
9:53:38AM TECHNICAL SCHOOL.

9:53:39AM WE BELIEVE THAT THE BEST PROGRAM GIVES THEM THE TOOLS THAT
9:53:44AM THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
9:53:46AM I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO ONE OF OUR STUDENTS.
9:53:49AM HE HAS BEEN WITH US SINCE HIGH SCHOOL AND HE IS AN ASPIRING
9:53:52AM MEDICAL DOCTOR.
9:53:53AM HIS NAME IS QUAN BOWEN.
9:53:56AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:53:57AM MY NAME IS QUAN BOWEN.
9:54:00AM I AM A JUNIOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
9:54:03AM I HAVE BEEN WITH THE BEST SINCE MY SOPHOMORE YEAR IN HIGH
9:54:07AM SCHOOL.
9:54:08AM SINCE THEN, I HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE SUMMER MENTORSHIP
9:54:13AM PROGRAM THAT THERE ARE SO MANY PROGRAMS, CAN'T COUNT THEM.
9:54:17AM THE BEST FDOP, IT IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH MOFFITT.
9:54:21AM AND WITH THAT SUMMER MENTORSHIP PROGRAM, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO
9:54:25AM SECURE AN INTERNSHIP -- A PAID INTERNSHIP POSITION AT
9:54:29AM MOFFITT.
9:54:30AM I'VE BEEN THERE A YEAR NOW.
9:54:32AM IT JUST HAS TRULY BEEN AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE, ONE THAT I
9:54:37AM NEVER THOUGHT WOULD OCCUR VISITING, SHADOWING DOCTORS IN THE
9:54:44AM HOSPITAL.
9:54:44AM IT REALLY TAKES THE MEDICINE OFF THE BOOKS AND PUTS IT INTO
9:54:48AM A REAL-WORLD CONCEPT THAT YOU CAN TOUCH, FEEL, AND IT JUST
9:54:53AM HAS BEEN AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE.
9:54:54AM I PLAN TO MATRICULATE TO MED SCHOOL IN THE NEXT COMING HERE.

9:55:04AM >> HELLO.
9:55:04AM MY NAME IS ERNESTINE, THE PROUD PRINCIPAL OF THE TAMPA BAY
9:55:09AM TECHNICAL HIGH SCHOOL.
9:55:09AM THE BEST PROGRAM HAS REALLY ALLOWED OUR STUDENTS TO
9:55:12AM UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS TO SEE THEIR FUTURE SELVES RIGHT NOW.
9:55:15AM IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE HAD STUDENTS WHO HAD
9:55:20AM VIRTUAL SURGERIES WITH ALL KINDS OF DOCTORS FROM SOUTH
9:55:22AM AFRICA, FROM DENMARK, WHERE LITERALLY IN REAL TIME THEY ARE
9:55:28AM SEEING ACTUAL SURGERIES.
9:55:30AM A LOT OF OUR STUDENTS DURING THE SUMMERTIME ALSO PARTICIPATE
9:55:32AM IN THE SUMMER PROGRAMS HE WAS ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT.
9:55:36AM IT IS AMAZING TO BE ABLE TO OFFER STUDENTS WHAT THEIR FUTURE
9:55:39AM CAN LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW.
9:55:41AM IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT, YOU CAN'T BE IT.
9:55:43AM AND EVERY SINGLE YEAR OUR STUDENTS WHO PARTICIPATE WITH BEST
9:55:48AM CAN SEE WHO THEY WILL BE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, IN THE NEXT
9:55:52AM TEN YEARS.
9:55:52AM BEST HAS ABSOLUTELY HELPED EVERYTHING WE DO AT TBT, JUST TO
9:55:57AM TELL YOU ABOUT OUR SCHOOL, WE HAVE BEEN AN ARB SCHOOL FOR
9:55:59AM THE LAST 14 YEARS.
9:56:01AM OVER 98% OF OUR STUDENTS ACTUALLY GRADUATE EVERY SINGLE
9:56:05AM YEAR, WHICH MAKES US AN OUTSTANDING SCHOOL WITHIN
9:56:08AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOLS.
9:56:11AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:56:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.

9:56:15AM I'M ASKEW.
9:56:19AM ON BEHALF OF DR. FREDERICK, OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND OUR
9:56:22AM STAFF, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
9:56:25AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, FOR ALLOWING US TO COME AND SPEAK ABOUT
9:56:27AM THIS AMAZING PROGRAM.
9:56:29AM WE ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING GREAT WORK IN THE
9:56:32AM TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY.
9:56:33AM LASTLY, WE DO HAVE A GALA ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 14th.
9:56:37AM WE WOULD LOVE FOR ALL OF YOU GUYS TO ATTEND.
9:56:39AM THE PROCEEDS WILL BENEFIT ALL OF THESE AMAZING PROGRAMS THAT
9:56:42AM YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT TODAY.
9:56:43AM SO WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU GUYS IN ATTENDANCE AND THANKS SO
9:56:47AM MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
9:56:52AM >> COUNCIL, GOOD AFTERNOON.
9:56:54AM MY NAME IS MUSTAFFA.
9:56:58AM I AM A 22-YEAR-OLD PREMED STUDENT THAT MOVED TO THE STATES
9:57:01AM IN 2017.
9:57:03AM I CAME FROM THE MIDDLE EAST.
9:57:05AM I'VE ALWAYS HAD A DREAM TO BECOME A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL,
9:57:09AM ESPECIALLY AT A YOUNG AGE.
9:57:10AM AND I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO HAVE THAT EXPERIENCE OF ME HAVING
9:57:14AM THE HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE WITH DOCTORS, SEEING THE ENVIRONMENT
9:57:19AM OF MEDICINE AND HOW HOSPITALS WORK, AND WITH THE GREATS OF
9:57:25AM DR. -- GRACE OF DR. FREDERICK AND HIS FAMILY, THAT DREAM
9:57:29AM ACTUALLY BECAME TRUE.

9:57:31AM SO AS ME STAYING WITH DR. FREDERICK WITH THAT PROGRAM,
9:57:36AM ALMOST GOING TO MEDICAL SCHOOL, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU
9:57:40AM GUYS HAVE DONE.
9:57:41AM IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM AND I'M EXCITED FOR WHAT'S COMING
9:57:43AM NEXT.
9:57:44AM THANK YOU.
9:57:47AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:57:48AM MY NAME IS JEANETTE MORAN.
9:57:50AM AS AN HISPANIC AMERICAN CITIZEN, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR
9:57:57AM THIS BEAUTIFUL, THIS BEAUTIFUL MEETING.
9:58:00AM IN THE SHADOW OF DR. CLAYTON AND HERE WITH BEST, I THINK WE
9:58:05AM CAN SERIOUSLY SAY WE ARE BLESSED TO LIVE TODAY BECAUSE
9:58:09AM WITHOUT PROGRAMS LIKE THIS, WITHOUT PEOPLE LIKE THIS,
9:58:11AM WITHOUT LEADERS LIKE THIS, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FACE
9:58:18AM OF THE STRUGGLE OF DIVERSITY AND DISCRIMINATION, WE'RE HERE
9:58:22AM TO FIGHT, AND WE'RE HERE TO STEP UP.
9:58:26AM AND IT'S A BLESSING TO BE HERE AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING
9:58:29AM YOU DO.
9:58:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: NOW, IF I MAY, ON BEHALF OF TAMPA CITY
9:58:34AM COUNCIL, IT'S MY GREAT PLEASURE TO GIVE TO BEST MEDICAL
9:58:37AM ACADEMY FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK THEY DO, YOU TALK ABOUT A
9:58:40AM DREAM.
9:58:40AM YOU TRY TO MAKE IT REAL, TO QUOTE BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN, A TAMPA
9:58:46AM CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
9:58:46AM AND NOW CITY COUNCIL.

9:58:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS.
9:58:51AM IT'S BEEN A VERY POSITIVE AND INSPIRATIONAL MORNING HERE AT
9:58:55AM CITY COUNCIL.
9:58:56AM AS YOU SAW HOW WE BEGAN AND HOW WE'RE CONTINUING.
9:58:58AM I CAN SAY WITH TOTAL CONFIDENCE, SEEING ALL OF YOU THAT THE
9:59:03AM COMMUNITY AND THE FUTURE OF THIS COMMUNITY IS VERY, VERY
9:59:07AM BRIGHT.
9:59:07AM THANK YOU FOR THE COMMITMENT THAT YOU'RE MAKING.
9:59:09AM THANK YOU FOR INSPIRING US, THE PEOPLE WATCHING.
9:59:12AM YOU HAVE A VERY BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD.
9:59:14AM YOU AS A PRINCIPAL, COMING DOWN TODAY, YOU DON'T HAVE AN
9:59:17AM EASY JOB.
9:59:18AM YOU KNOW YOU'RE LEADING.
9:59:19AM YOU'RE INSPIRING LOTS AND LOTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE THE
9:59:22AM FUTURE OF THIS COMMUNITY.
9:59:23AM SO THANK YOU.
9:59:23AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
9:59:25AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:59:26AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING?
9:59:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING WHAT YOUR DOING.
9:59:33AM WE OBVIOUSLY NEED MORE PEOPLE IN THE HEALTH CARE.
9:59:38AM THERE ARE ALWAYS SHORTAGE.
9:59:39AM GREAT TO HAVE PEOPLE OF ALL BACKGROUNDS.
9:59:42AM TAMPA BAY TECH, YOU ARE PUTTING OUT A LOT OF GREAT
9:59:44AM ENTREPRENEURS.

9:59:45AM SO MANY SUCCESSFUL ENTREPRENEURS OUT THERE.
9:59:46AM SO CONGRATS.
9:59:47AM AND PLEASE KEEP DOING WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING.
9:59:50AM THANK YOU.
9:59:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAD THE PLEASURE OF GOING TO THE WHITE COAT
9:59:57AM CEREMONY FOR THE DUNBAR ELEMENTARY LAST YEAR, AND IT WAS SO
10:00:01AM AMAZING.
10:00:03AM NOT ONLY THE CHILDREN, BUT THEIR PARENTS.
10:00:09AM AND IT WAS SO NEAT TO SEE THE ABSOLUTE BUY-IN AND THE PRIDE.
10:00:15AM THOSE KIDS ARE YOUNG ENOUGH, NOT ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO GO
10:00:19AM INTO THE HEALTH CARE FIELD, BUT THEY ABSOLUTELY GET -- THEY
10:00:22AM UNDERSTAND THAT THEY COULD.
10:00:24AM THEY DEVELOP THEIR OWN SENSE OF STRENGTH IN WHO THEY ARE
10:00:28AM GOING TO BECOME.
10:00:29AM AND I THINK FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE DREAM,
10:00:32AM I THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY WONDERFUL.
10:00:35AM AND ONE OF THE BEST THINGS, THOUGH, THAT I HEARD ABOUT WITH
10:00:38AM THE DUNBAR ELEMENTARY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE THIS, IS THE
10:00:42AM TELEMED PROGRAM YOU'RE OFFERING FOR YOUR PARENTS.
10:00:45AM SO THAT PARENTS CAN COME DOWN TO THE SCHOOL AND HAVE TELEMED
10:00:50AM APPOINTMENTS RIGHT THERE.
10:00:51AM SO ALL OF THE INNOVATION THAT'S COMING AROUND THESE
10:00:56AM PROGRAMS.
10:00:56AM SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU ALSO TO TAMPA
10:01:00AM BAY TECH FOR DOING -- I MEAN, REALLY JUST ENCOURAGING KIDS

10:01:04AM TO FIND THEMSELVES AND WHO THEY ARE AND BE ABLE TO DO THAT
10:01:10AM BEFORE THEY GRADUATE.
10:01:11AM I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE IN SEEING WHAT YOU CAN BE, AS
10:01:15AM YOU SAID.
10:01:16AM YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
10:01:18AM YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT JOBS EXIST.
10:01:20AM SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF
10:01:22AM JOBS IN HEALTH CARE.
10:01:23AM IT'S NOT JUST DOCTOR.
10:01:24AM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE CAN DO.
10:01:26AM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:01:28AM VERY INSPIRING THIS MORNING.
10:01:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO DOUBLE DOWN ON WHAT COUNCILWOMAN
10:01:35AM HURTAK SAID.
10:01:35AM EXACTLY.
10:01:37AM OPENING EYES OF YOUNG PEOPLE TO SEE THE OPPORTUNITIES OUT
10:01:40AM THERE.
10:01:41AM DEPENDING ON SOMEONE'S SOCIOECONOMIC CIRCUMSTANCES, THEY
10:01:45AM COULD GROW UP IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY DON'T SEE THESE
10:01:48AM OPPORTUNITIES.
10:01:48AM THEY DON'T SEE THEMSELVES IN THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.
10:01:51AM SO TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THESE INCREDIBLE TYPES OF PROGRAMS
10:01:54AM THAT YOU CAN INSPIRE YOUNG PEOPLE AT AN EARLY AGE AND SHOW
10:01:59AM PATHWAYS TO BETTER LIVES, I THINK THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE
10:02:03AM SHOULD BE DOING, AFFIRMATIVE TYPE OF PROGRAMS AND TYPE OF

10:02:07AM OUTREACH.
10:02:08AM I AGREE 100% WITH WHAT SHE SAID.
10:02:11AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
10:02:13AM I HOPE THAT THESE TYPES OF PROGRAMS GROW AND CONTINUE AND
10:02:19AM EXIST IN EVERY PART OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERY PART OF
10:02:22AM OUR SCHOOLS, BECAUSE I THINK THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
10:02:24AM THANK YOU.
10:02:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, GOOD MORNING.
10:02:26AM WELL-DESERVED COMMENDATION.
10:02:27AM CONGRATULATIONS.
10:02:28AM THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH HEALTH DISPARITY IN THIS
10:02:32AM COUNTRY, THE FACT THAT BEST IS TACKLING THAT ONE KID AT A
10:02:35AM TIME AND DRAWING THAT INTEREST INTO THE MEDICAL FIELD IS
10:02:38AM JUST VERY IMPRESSIVE.
10:02:40AM DR. WOODY AS A DRAGON, ONE SCHOOL I DO NOT TALK ABOUT IS
10:02:45AM TECH, TECH, TECH.
10:02:47AM I MEAN MS. WOODY.
10:02:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ENOUGH WITH THE DRAGON ALREADY.
10:02:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I SAID TECH.
10:02:55AM I'M GIVING TECH LOVE.
10:02:56AM THE TAMPA BAY TECH TITANS.
10:02:58AM RICKY KENZIE, ONE OF MY ALUMNI FRIENDS WHO LOVES HIS SCHOOL.
10:03:02AM YOU ALL ARE DOING GREAT WORK.
10:03:04AM BEEN AN "A" SCHOOL A LONG TIME.
10:03:06AM BEEN JEALOUS OF THAT BECAUSE I KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO GET.

10:03:09AM IT IS NOT EASY TO GET.
10:03:11AM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE STUDENTS TODAY.
10:03:12AM THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PRESENTATION.
10:03:15AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU SAID.
10:03:16AM THE DIVERSITY OF THE HEALTH CARE FIELD IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR
10:03:21AM SO MANY DIFFERENT REASONS.
10:03:22AM WE DON'T HAVE TO EVEN SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT IT.
10:03:24AM WE KNOW THEY EXIST.
10:03:25AM THIS COMMENDATION IS WELL DESERVED AND, OF COURSE, IN THE
10:03:27AM SHADOW OF DR. CLAYTON, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY IN THE SHADOW.
10:03:31AM YOU ALL ARE IN THE SPOTLIGHT TODAY.
10:03:32AM I COMMEND YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
10:03:34AM DARLENE, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, GET SOME INFORMATION ABOUT
10:03:37AM THE OCTOBER 14 GALA.
10:03:39AM THANK YOU.
10:03:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:03:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
10:03:42AM I GUESS YOU WENT TO JEFFERSON?
10:03:44AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:03:44AM I'M ONLY TAKING A GUESS.
10:03:47AM I NEVER WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL.
10:03:48AM I WENT TO JEFFERSON.
10:03:51AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:03:51AM IT'S A PLEASURE ALL OF YOU WHAT YOU HAVE IN MIND, WHAT YOU
10:03:56AM WANT TO DO IN LIFE.

10:03:57AM AS YOU MATURE IN LIFE, WHEN YOU'RE A KID, YOU BECOME IMMUNE
10:04:03AM TO WHAT YOU DON'T SEE.
10:04:04AM BUT WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
10:04:06AM AND SOMETIMES IN ANY EDUCATION FIELD, I KNOW AN ISLAND NOT
10:04:11AM TOO FAR FROM KEY WEST WHERE THEY START TEACHING YOU WHAT YOU
10:04:14AM WANT TO DO IN YOUR HIGH SCHOOL.
10:04:15AM MOST OF THOSE KIDS, WHEN THEY DO NOT ONLY HIGH SCHOOL, THEY
10:04:18AM GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND SEE WHAT THE DOCTORS DO, SO THEY GET
10:04:21AM ACCLIMATED ON HOW THE PROCEDURES GO AND THEY HAVE A LEG UP,
10:04:24AM IN MY OPINION ANYWAY, ON WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
10:04:27AM SO YOU'RE ONE STEP AHEAD OF SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW WHERE
10:04:30AM THEY WANT TO GO AND YOU'RE ONE STEP AHEAD AND JUST KEEP IT
10:04:33AM THAT WAY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S KEEPING YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO
10:04:36AM DO AND MORE THAN LIKELY THE BEST WAY TO EARN YOUR EDUCATION
10:04:39AM AND ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT YOU ARE SO ENTITLED TO.
10:04:43AM MUCHISIMAS GRACIAS.
10:04:45AM ALL OF YOU WHO WANT TO BE DOCTORS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:48AM YOU CAN CURE A GUY MY AGE.
10:04:50AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:04:52AM CONGRATULATIONS.
10:04:52AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:04:53AM BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 4, IT WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME ABOUT
10:05:02AM ITEM NUMBER 5.
10:05:03AM WE DIDN'T BRING THIS UP IN THE AGENDA APPROVAL.

10:05:08AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, YOU MADE THIS MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER
10:05:10AM 5?
10:05:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAKE A MOTION, STAFF PUT TOGETHER A
10:05:14AM PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.
10:05:16AM I ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORT AND DON'T NEED STAFF FOR THAT.
10:05:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEM NUMBER 5.
10:05:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
10:05:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:05:24AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:05:25AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:05:25AM MR. BHIDE, WE DO NOT NEED YOU FOR ITEM NUMBER 5.
10:05:29AM YES, SIR.
10:05:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: I SPOKE TO LEGAL ABOUT THIS, AND THE
10:05:41AM DEVELOPER HAS THE RIGHT AND THE OBLIGATION TO DO SOMETHING
10:05:45AM THERE, BUT WE'RE NOT -- IF THEY ASK US TO TAKE AWAY THAT
10:05:52AM REQUIREMENT, THEN WE COULD VOTE.
10:05:55AM BUT WE CANNOT FORCE THEM TO DO IT BUT THEY COULD ASK US FOR
10:05:58AM IT.
10:05:58AM I THINK WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO IS SEND A LETTER TO THE
10:06:02AM DEVELOPER TO ASK THEM TO ASK US TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT.
10:06:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:06:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:06:09AM CARLSON.
10:06:09AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:06:11AM BEFORE WE TAKE THAT VOTE, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.

10:06:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OBVIOUSLY, I WAS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS
10:06:19AM ISSUE.
10:06:19AM I TALKED WITH THEM ABOUT.
10:06:23AM I THINK THEY PURSUED, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT
10:06:26AM THE MEMO, THEY PURSUED A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
10:06:30AM PART OF THE FRUSTRATION, WE HAD THE ARBORIST THAT
10:06:32AM REPRESENTED THE DEVELOPER BUT WE ALSO HAD OUR CITY ARBORIST
10:06:36AM LOOK AT IT SUBSEQUENT TO OUR PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS HERE.
10:06:38AM AND WHAT THEY CAME OUT WAS THEY WERE ABLE TO ON THE
10:06:44AM SIDEWALK, THEY WERE ABLE TO SHRINK THE SIZE, AND THEY ARE
10:06:47AM GOING TO SLOPE IT TOWARDS THE TREES SO THAT WATER THAT FALLS
10:06:50AM TOWARDS THE SIDEWALK WILL ACTUALLY GO IN TOWARDS THE TREE.
10:06:54AM AND TO ALLEVIATE.
10:06:56AM AN ARBORIST FROM BOTH THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPER WERE
10:06:59AM SATISFIED THAT WAS GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE
10:07:02AM THAT TREE WHAT IT NEEDED TO SURVIVE.
10:07:06AM THEY LOOKED -- I MEAN, I WAS SATISFIED THAT THEY LOOKED AT
10:07:09AM ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
10:07:13AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTOOD THAT WAS THE
10:07:16AM LAST OPTION ON THE TABLE WAS DOING THAT.
10:07:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THERE ARE FOLKS HERE TO SPEAK IN
10:07:23AM PUBLIC COMMENT, TOO, BUT A LOT OF EXTERNAL TREE EXPERTS.
10:07:26AM YOU WANT TO LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.
10:07:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL RESCIND MY MOTION TO RECEIVE AND
10:07:31AM FILE.

10:07:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL KEEP ITEM NUMBER 5 AS IT IS WITH
10:07:33AM MR. BHIDE ON STANDBY.
10:07:35AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:36AM ITEM NUMBER 4, WE HAVE BETH ALDEN, WHO WILL BE PRESENTING
10:07:39AM FROM THE TPO ABOUT A TRI-COUNTY MPO MERGER CONCEPT.
10:07:44AM WITH THAT, WE HAVE A PowerPoint.
10:07:46AM IF WE COULD BRING IT UP ON THE MAIN SCREEN.
10:07:49AM YES, MA'AM.
10:07:49AM WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
10:07:51AM >> BETH ALDEN: GOOD MORNING.
10:07:55AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:07:55AM I'M BETH ALDEN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE HILLSBOROUGH
10:07:58AM TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, WHICH SERVES TAMPA,
10:08:02AM TEMPLE TERRACE, PLANT CITY AND UNINCORPORATED HILLSBOROUGH
10:08:04AM COUNTY.
10:08:04AM I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF TIME THIS MORNING TO
10:08:09AM TALK ABOUT THIS TOPIC, WHICH AFFECTS ALL OF THE CITIES AND
10:08:12AM COUNTIES OF THE TAMPA BAY REGION AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR EACH
10:08:16AM OF OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO TALK INTERNALLY ABOUT WHAT THIS
10:08:19AM MEANS FOR YOU.
10:08:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:08:23AM GO AHEAD.
10:08:24AM NOW WE CAN ALL SEE IT.
10:08:26AM >>BETH ALDEN: THANK YOU.
10:08:27AM SO FOR YOUR AUDIENCE, WHAT IS AN MPO OR METROPOLITAN

10:08:29AM PLANNING ORGANIZATION?
10:08:31AM IT IS A POLICY BOARD OF LOCAL OFFICIALS THAT REPRESENTS A
10:08:35AM METROPOLITAN AREA.
10:08:37AM IT SETS PRIORITIES FOR COLLABORATING ON INVESTING IN
10:08:41AM SIGNIFICANT TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
10:08:44AM TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION A NUMBER OF FACTORS, LIKE
10:08:47AM PERFORMANCE MEASURES, LOCAL GROWTH TRENDS, YOUR
10:08:49AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, PUBLIC INPUT, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
10:08:52AM FACTORS.
10:08:53AM RIGHT NOW, WE DO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT METROPOLITAN PLANNING
10:08:56AM ORGANIZATIONS SERVING EACH OF HILLSBOROUGH, PINELLAS, AND
10:09:00AM PASCO COUNTIES.
10:09:03AM THE HILLSBOROUGH ORGANIZATION IS KNOWN AS THE TPO,
10:09:05AM TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION, AND CITY OF TAMPA IS
10:09:09AM REPRESENTED BY COUNCIL PEOPLE MANISCALCO, CLENDENIN, AND
10:09:12AM HURTAK.
10:09:13AM AND WE APPRECIATE THE TIME THAT YOU CONTRIBUTE TO THAT.
10:09:20AM OUR URBANIZED AREA ACROSS THREE COUNTIES HAS GRADUALLY GROWN
10:09:25AM SO THAT WE ARE VERY INTERRELATED AT THIS POINT.
10:09:28AM WE CAN UNDER FEDERAL LAW CONTINUE TO HAVE SEPARATE
10:09:35AM METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS FOR THE THREE COUNTIES.
10:09:39AM IF WE HAVE A COORDINATED PROCESS, FOR DISCUSSING THE
10:09:43AM TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE ENTIRE
10:09:47AM URBANIZED AREA.
10:09:48AM SO WE DO HAVE THAT PROCESS IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.

10:09:52AM IT IS THE SUNCOAST TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ALLIANCE.
10:09:56AM IF YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT IT, THE WEBSITE IS SUNCOASTTPA.ORG.
10:10:00AM IN 2023, THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE PASSED A LAW ASKING THE
10:10:10AM MPOs OF THESE THREE COUNTIES TO EVALUATE MERGING AND TO
10:10:15AM PROVIDE A REPORT EXPLORING THE BENEFITS, THE COSTS, AND THE
10:10:20AM PROCESS OF CONSOLIDATING INTO A SINGLE MPO TO SERVE THIS
10:10:24AM URBANIZED AREA.
10:10:25AM SO THAT IS DUE BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
10:10:29AM SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT TOGETHER, THE STAFF OF THE THREE
10:10:33AM MPOs.
10:10:35AM THE IDEA OF MERGING IS NOT NEW.
10:10:37AM IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR SEVERAL DECADES.
10:10:40AM THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO THIS.
10:10:45AM AS HAS BEEN CLEAR OVER THE YEARS.
10:10:48AM SOME OF THE PROS, PEOPLE POINT TO METRO PLAN ORLANDO, WHICH
10:10:53AM IS AN MPO SERVING A TRI-COUNTY AREA.
10:10:57AM AND THAT BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS A LOT OF DIFFERENT
10:11:00AM COMMUNITIES AROUND ORLANDO, IT HAS A POLICY BOARD THAT
10:11:05AM REPRESENTS BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE AND CAN ADVOCATE
10:11:10AM EFFECTIVELY IN TALLAHASSEE AND IN WASHINGTON, D.C. BY COMING
10:11:15AM TOGETHER ACROSS THE AISLE AND SPEAKING TO LEADERS AT THE
10:11:21AM STATE AND THE NATIONAL LEVEL, BUILDING ON THE RELATIONSHIPS
10:11:25AM THAT THEY HAVE WITHIN THAT BOARD.
10:11:28AM SO THAT KIND OF POLITICAL DIVERSITY STRENGTHENS THE ABILITY
10:11:32AM OF THE REGION TO BRING HOME MAJOR PROJECTS.

10:11:34AM CONS.
10:11:37AM QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN RAISED ABOUT WILL OUR SMALLER CITIES
10:11:43AM STILL HAVE THE SAME ROLE IN THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS THAT
10:11:47AM THEY HAVE HAD?
10:11:47AM RIGHT NOW CITY OF PLANT CITY, CITY OF TEMPLE TERRACE HAVE A
10:11:51AM VOTING SEAT ON OUR TPO BOARD THAT PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE THE
10:11:56AM CASE IF WE MERGED.
10:11:57AM WILL OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE THE SAME INFLUENCE, THE SAME
10:12:00AM ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO DECISION MAKERS THAT
10:12:05AM THEY HAVE HAD WHERE THEY CAN COME TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA TO OUR
10:12:09AM MEETINGS AND PROVIDE INPUT?
10:12:12AM AND THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT, WILL THIS SHIFT
10:12:20AM EMPHASIS TO MAJOR HIGHWAY PROJECTS INSTEAD OF FUNDING
10:12:23AM COMMUNITY SAFETY, ACCESS AND MOBILITY NEEDS.
10:12:25AM THERE ARE LARGER MPOs ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, ATLANTA
10:12:29AM REGIONAL COMMISSION IS ONE.
10:12:30AM IT SERVES 11 COUNTIES.
10:12:33AM HAS FOUND A WAY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE DOWNSIDES OF BEING A
10:12:38AM LARGE ORGANIZATION, WELL KNOWN NATIONALLY FOR HAVING A
10:12:42AM LIVABLE CENTERS INITIATIVE.
10:12:43AM SO THERE ARE SOME STRATEGIES FOR MITIGATING SOME OF THE DOWN
10:12:48AM SIDES.
10:12:48AM RIGHT NOW, YOUR TPO IS CONSIDERING ENTERING INTO AN
10:12:54AM AGREEMENT WITH THE OTHER TWO MPOs, FORWARD PINELLAS AND
10:12:59AM PASCO MPO, TO EVALUATE THE MERGER AND PUT TOGETHER THE STEPS

10:13:05AM FOR HOW TO MERGE THE MPOs.
10:13:07AM THE TIMELINE WOULD BE BY JULY OF 2027.
10:13:11AM THE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING DOES NOT COMMIT THE MPOs
10:13:17AM TO MERGE.
10:13:18AM IT LAYS OUT GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR EVALUATING THAT MERGER.
10:13:21AM SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES IS THAT THE
10:13:25AM VOTING MEMBERSHIP OF THAT POLICY BOARD SHOULD BE
10:13:28AM PROPORTIONATE TO POPULATION.
10:13:30AM AND ALSO, THAT WE MUST REMAIN COMMITTED TO PUBLIC OUTREACH
10:13:38AM TO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY
10:13:43AM I'M HERE WITH YOU TODAY.
10:13:44AM I'M SEEKING CITY OF TAMPA'S INPUT IN PARTICULAR ON ENTERING
10:13:49AM INTO THIS MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.
10:13:52AM HILLSBOROUGH TPO WILL BE CONSIDERING APPROVING THIS MOU IN
10:13:56AM OCTOBER.
10:13:56AM IF WE ENTER INTO THIS MOU, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DECISIONS
10:14:04AM THAT WILL NEED TO BE MADE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
10:14:08AM ONE OF THE PARTS OF BEING AN MPO IS A LOT OF FEDERAL RED
10:14:13AM TAPE THAT MAKES SURE THAT PROJECTS THAT COME TO THIS AREA
10:14:18AM ARE WELL VETTED, WELL EVALUATED AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
10:14:21AM BUT THAT MEANS THERE ARE A LOT OF HURDLES TO CLEAR.
10:14:24AM I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THIS ENTIRE LIST WITH YOU, BUT
10:14:27AM WE DO HAVE A TIMELINE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS OF MAJOR
10:14:29AM DECISION POINTS.
10:14:30AM WE HAVE JUST CLOSED OUT OUR PUBLIC OPINION SURVEY.

10:14:36AM IT WAS OPEN FROM JULY 5th TO JULY -- AUGUST 20, WHICH WAS
10:14:41AM THIS PAST SUNDAY, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE CITY OF
10:14:43AM TAMPA'S HELP IN GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT THE SURVEY.
10:14:47AM WE WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE MORE THAN 1700 RESPONSES ON THE
10:14:52AM SURVEY.
10:14:53AM BUT THAT WON'T BE THE LAST TIME THAT WE'RE SEEKING FEEDBACK
10:14:56AM FROM THE PUBLIC.
10:14:57AM THIS IS AN INITIAL CONVERSATION.
10:14:59AM AND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK FOR YOUR INPUT FOR ME
10:15:04AM TO BRING BACK TO THE TPO BOARD AS IT CONSIDERS ENTERING INTO
10:15:08AM THIS MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING FOR A MERGER.
10:15:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:12AM SO I'VE BEEN ON THE MPO, SLASH, TPO SINCE I FIRST GOT
10:15:16AM ELECTED IN 2015.
10:15:18AM AND MY FIRST BIG MEETING WAS THE QUESTION ON TBX, AS IT WAS
10:15:25AM CALLED BACK THEN.
10:15:25AM THE DISTRICT THAT I FIRST REPRESENTED HAD SEMINOLE HEIGHTS,
10:15:28AM TAMPA HEIGHTS, PARTS OF TAMPA HEIGHTS AND WEST TAMPA.
10:15:31AM AND THE INTERSTATE CUTS RIGHT THROUGH DIVIDING THOSE
10:15:34AM COMMUNITIES.
10:15:35AM AND YOU WERE THERE; I WAS THERE.
10:15:38AM AND WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT UNTIL 2 IN THE MORNING, 1 IN THE
10:15:42AM MORNING, MIDNIGHT.
10:15:43AM THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT CAME OUT, MEANING THAT THEY CARED
10:15:48AM ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

10:15:49AM BECAUSE WITH THE POTENTIAL EXPANSION OF THE INTERSTATE, IT
10:15:51AM WAS GOING TO AFFECT A LOT OF PROPERTIES, A LOT OF RESIDENTS.
10:15:56AM AND I HAD VOTED AGAINST THAT FROM THE BEGINNING.
10:15:59AM MY CONCERN MOVING FORWARD YEARS LATER WITH THE TRI-COUNTY
10:16:02AM MERGER IS THAT THOSE VOICES AND THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS GET
10:16:07AM DILUTED, THEY GET SILENCED, BECAUSE IT BECOMES SO BIG THAT
10:16:13AM THEIR VOICE COULD FADE AWAY BECAUSE NOW IT'S TRI-COUNTY AND
10:16:18AM NOT JUST HILLSBOROUGH AND IT'S NOT -- I THINK THAT'S VERY
10:16:22AM DANGEROUS BECAUSE IT WASN'T JUST THAT ONE NIGHT, THAT ONE
10:16:25AM VOTE REGARDING THE TIP AS IT'S CALLED IN OUR ANNUAL MEETING,
10:16:30AM BUT IT WAS THE FOLLOWING YEAR, IT WAS A LATE MEETING IN THE
10:16:33AM FOLLOWING YEAR.
10:16:34AM AND EVERYONE FROM TBX TO TB NEXT, SO MANY PEOPLE HAD
10:16:39AM CONCERNS.
10:16:39AM IT'S AN ISSUE THAT STILL HASN'T GONE AWAY.
10:16:42AM SO THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THE
10:16:45AM STRENGTH OF THOSE VOICES BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF VOICES.
10:16:48AM THERE ARE A LOT OF VOICES AND PEOPLE WITH SERIOUS CONCERNS
10:16:51AM BECAUSE IT'S AFFECTING THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:16:53AM I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
10:16:54AM I'M ON THAT BOARD, AND I WILL BE AT THAT MEETING WHEN THIS
10:16:58AM DISCUSSION COMES UP, AND I'LL BRING THIS UP THEN.
10:17:00AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP FIRST AND
10:17:03AM THEN CLENDENIN AND THEN MIRANDA AND THEN VIERA.
10:17:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR THIS.

10:17:07AM I HAVE DONE ALL THE RESEARCH.
10:17:10AM I PULLED THE RESOLUTION, THE ORIGINAL ONE, THE CODE OF
10:17:13AM FEDERAL REGULATIONS, REALLY LOOKING AT THIS.
10:17:16AM SO THE BIGGEST DEAL IS THE CITY OF TAMPA DOESN'T HAVE TO
10:17:19AM AGREE TO THIS.
10:17:20AM WE DON'T HAVE TO AGREE TO THE MOU AND WE HAVE TO BE A PART
10:17:23AM OF THE MOU.
10:17:25AM I THINK WE ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT AS A BOARD.
10:17:28AM SO I ACTUALLY HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE DRAFT MOU
10:17:31AM THAT I WILL BE PRESENTING AFTER WE LISTEN TO EVERYONE.
10:17:35AM IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME THAT YOU OR WHOEVER SUCCEEDS YOU, AS I
10:17:42AM KNOW YOU'RE HEADING TOWARD RETIREMENT, AND CONGRATULATIONS
10:17:45AM ON THAT.
10:17:45AM WE WILL MISS YOU.
10:17:46AM TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL WHEN THERE IS A PLAN TO KEEP US
10:17:51AM UPDATED AFTER THE MOU, MAYBE A YEARLY AS WE SAW THIS
10:17:56AM CALENDAR, IF THIS GOES FORWARD.
10:17:57AM AND THE REAL CONCERN IS THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO HAVE MORE
10:18:02AM THAN ONE SEAT ON THIS BOARD.
10:18:03AM THE CITY OF TAMPA WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE LARGEST POPULATION.
10:18:10AM TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW HISTORICALLY A MAJORITY OF LOCAL -- A
10:18:17AM MAJORITY OF THE FUNDING FOR LOCAL TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS IN
10:18:19AM THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE COME FROM GRANTS THAT HAVE PASSED
10:18:22AM THROUGH THE MPO.
10:18:23AM SO THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.

10:18:27AM WE JUST GOT AN UPDATE OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO FIX THE
10:18:33AM STORMWATER ON FLORIDA AND TAMPA, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT,
10:18:36AM THAT'S GOING TO BE A BRT LANE.
10:18:39AM THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM F.D.O.T.
10:18:43AM THE OLA AVENUE BIKEWAY AND CENTRAL AVENUE BIKEWAY THAT THEY
10:18:47AM TALKED ABOUT, AGAIN, BOTH OF THOSE ARE F.D.O.T. PROJECTS, WE
10:18:51AM DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO FUND THAT.
10:18:52AM AND IF THE -- IF IT BECOMES A REGIONAL MPO, WILL WE HAVE THE
10:19:01AM SAY TO POWER THE ABILITY TO FOCUS ON THESE ISSUES THAT THE
10:19:06AM CITY CAN'T AFFORD BUT THAT WE'VE HAD A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP
10:19:09AM WITH F.D.O.T. TO GET THROUGH.
10:19:11AM THE MOU AS DRAFTED I DON'T BELIEVE ADEQUATELY REFLECTS THE
10:19:16AM LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT AND AUTHORITY THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:19:19AM HAS IN THE FORMAL PROCESS OF THIS.
10:19:22AM LIKE I SAID, I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO MY COLLEAGUES AND THEN
10:19:25AM AFTERWARDS, I HAVE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THAT DRAFT MOU.
10:19:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN --
10:19:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE OF SUNSHINE, THIS IS KIND OF THE
10:19:35AM FIRST OPPORTUNITY, EVEN THOUGH THE THREE OF US, COUNCILWOMAN
10:19:38AM HURTAK AND COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND MYSELF SERVE ON THE
10:19:41AM TPO, HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF HEAR EACH OTHER OUT
10:19:44AM ON THIS.
10:19:45AM YOU KNOW EXACTLY SOME OF MY INPUT AS WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS
10:19:50AM BEFORE.
10:19:51AM I HAVE GRAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE MERGER CONCEPT AND THE

10:19:54AM IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE PEOPLE
10:19:57AM THAT I REPRESENT.
10:19:58AM I DON'T MEAN TO UNDERMINE THE BROADER CONCEPT HERE, THE
10:20:04AM BENEFIT OF HAVING THIS TYPE OF AN ORGANIZATION AND THE
10:20:08AM BIGGER PICTURE BECAUSE THERE'S OBVIOUSLY TREMENDOUS
10:20:11AM TRANSPORTATION NEEDS THAT CUT ACROSS ALL THREE OF THE
10:20:13AM COUNTIES.
10:20:13AM PASCO COUNTY AS IT CONTINUES EXPLOSIVE GROWTH, THEY HAVE
10:20:18AM VERY MUCH CRITICAL TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.
10:20:20AM PINELLAS COUNTY, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
10:20:23AM WHAT'S GOING TO WORK IN PINELLAS COUNTY.
10:20:26AM THE IRONY IN THIS WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, WE ALREADY HAVE
10:20:29AM OUR COMPETING NEEDS BECAUSE THE TYPE OF TRANSPORTATION
10:20:33AM CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE IN THE EASTERN AND SOUTHEASTERN PART
10:20:35AM OF OUR COUNTY IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION
10:20:39AM NEEDS THAT WE FACE AS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:20:41AM SO WE ARE ALREADY WITHIN THE CURRENT TPO PROCESS WITHIN
10:20:45AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:20:45AM WE'RE ALREADY BALANCING THOSE THINGS.
10:20:47AM MY BIGGEST CONCERN ABOUT THE REPRESENTATION ISSUE, BECAUSE I
10:20:50AM HEAR THAT A LOT AS SOMETHING THAT IS TOSSED OUT, WELL, WE
10:20:53AM JUST NEED TO FIGHT FOR MORE REPRESENTATION FOR THE CITY OF
10:20:54AM TAMPA.
10:20:55AM IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE WE GET, ALWAYS BE
10:21:00AM OVERWHELMED BY ALL THE OTHER COMPETING NEEDS AND ESPECIALLY

10:21:03AM WITHIN THE REALITY OF YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN IN THE PAST,
10:21:07AM ABOUT IN A STERILE ENVIRONMENT, SOME OF THE STUFF MAKES
10:21:11AM SENSE, BUT THEN YOU INJECT THE WORLD OF POLITICS.
10:21:14AM IN THE WORLD OF POLITICS, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PINELLAS AND
10:21:16AM PASCO AND EVEN PARTS OF OUR OWN COUNTY, IT CHANGES THE
10:21:19AM DYNAMIC, AND I THINK EVERY TIME I LOOK AT THIS, AT EVERY
10:21:24AM ANGLE I LOOK AT IT, THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ON THE LOSING END
10:21:27AM OF IT.
10:21:28AM AND I THINK WHAT'S BEEN CLEAR TO ME AND OUR TRANSPORTATION
10:21:33AM CHALLENGES, NOT JUST IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH
10:21:34AM COUNTY, BUT IN OUR REGION, IS THAT WE, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE
10:21:40AM IN THE WORLD, WE LACK RESOURCES TO ACCOMPLISH EVERYTHING
10:21:43AM THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
10:21:46AM AND WHEN YOU LACK THESE RESOURCES AND YOUR SCALE IS SO BIG,
10:21:51AM EVERYTHING SUFFERS.
10:21:54AM I THINK WE'RE AT A POINT IN THE EVOLUTION OF THESE
10:21:59AM CHALLENGES TO GO SMALLER, TO BRING BACK DOWN, TO CONCENTRATE
10:22:02AM ON THE AREAS THAT WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN.
10:22:05AM AND I THINK THAT IS A CLEAR EXAMPLE OF WHY, LIKE THE CITY OF
10:22:08AM TAMPA IS A GREAT PLACE BECAUSE HOW WE'RE BUILDING OUT, WE'RE
10:22:12AM IN THIS INCREDIBLE GROWTH PERIOD IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT
10:22:15AM WITH URBAN PLANNING, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SOME
10:22:19AM AMAZING THINGS WITH INTEGRATION, WITH DENSITY IN HOUSING AND
10:22:25AM TRANSPORTATION THAT A LOT OF THESE OTHER AREAS DON'T HAVE
10:22:27AM THE LUXURY OF DOING.

10:22:28AM BECAUSE THE AREAS BUILDING OUT NOW IN PASCO IS STILL IN THAT
10:22:31AM 1960s AND '70s MODEL OF MOVING PEOPLE THROUGH EXPRESS
10:22:36AM WAYS, SAME THING HAPPENING IN EAST COUNTY WITH THE
10:22:38AM CHALLENGES OF GETTING PEOPLE INTO SOUTHEASTERN COUNTY.
10:22:40AM BUT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE HAVE REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
10:22:44AM AND WHAT I DON'T THIS TO DO IS TRIP UP THAT OPPORTUNITY,
10:22:48AM BECAUSE I'M EXCITED ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING RIGHT NOW IN THE
10:22:50AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:22:51AM AND THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE OF MOVING PEOPLE AND PUTTING
10:22:54AM THIS DENSITY IN THE RIGHT PLACES SO WE CAN BUILD THESE
10:22:57AM MODELS AND CONCENTRATE ON HERE, AND I DON'T WANT OUR VOICES
10:23:01AM DIMINISHED TO THE POINT THAT WE LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY.
10:23:03AM THANK YOU.
10:23:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:23:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
10:23:06AM I AGREE MOSTLY WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN SAID.
10:23:09AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT TAMPA, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A LOT
10:23:12AM OF THE AREAS BECAUSE WE'RE HIGHLY CONCENTRATED IN A SMALLER
10:23:15AM GEOGRAPHICAL BOUNDARY WITH HIGHER POPULATION.
10:23:18AM YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT POPULATION.
10:23:21AM DOES THAT MEAN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A WEIGHTED VOTE OR JUST
10:23:24AM GOING TO BE EVERYBODY VOTES, EVERYBODY'S VOTE IS THE SAME,
10:23:27AM NO MATTER A SMALL AMOUNT OF INDIVIDUALS OR BIG LARGE
10:23:30AM INDIVIDUALS LIKE THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:23:31AM IS A VOTE GOING TO BE WEIGHTED OR BE BY POPULATION OR JUST

10:23:37AM EVERYBODY HAS GOT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MUSTER AT THE TABLE?
10:23:40AM I DON'T KNOW THAT.
10:23:41AM I'VE EXPERIENCED SOME OF THAT.
10:23:45AM SOME OF THAT HAS WORKED AND SOME HAS NOT WORKED.
10:23:48AM THEREFORE I'M VERY CAUTIOUS ABOUT JOINING ANYTHING THAT HAS
10:23:51AM TO DO WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT'S NOT WEIGHTED ON
10:23:53AM POPULATION IN A GEOGRAPHICAL AREA.
10:23:56AM THE IMPACT IS SOMEWHERE ELSE.
10:23:57AM THEY ARE GOING TO GET IT.
10:23:59AM TAKE 50, 20 YEARS TO COMPLETE WHAT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH, THE
10:24:02AM STRUGGLES WE'VE BEEN THROUGH AND STRETCHING THAT DOLLAR TO
10:24:04AM GO FROM ONE KIND OF THE CITY TO THE OTHER PART OF THE CITY
10:24:08AM AND BACK AND FORTH.
10:24:09AM WE'RE STRAPPED BUT NOW ONE GOVERNMENT I KNOW OF THAT HAS
10:24:13AM MONEY TO DO EVERYTHING.
10:24:14AM THEY ARE ALL LOOKING -- YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.
10:24:17AM THE PROBLEM IS STILL MOSTLY URBAN AND WE'RE MOSTLY WHAT, IN
10:24:21AM A SMALL AREA THAT'S CREATING A LOT OF NEED FOR
10:24:25AM TRANSPORTATION.
10:24:27AM THEREFORE WE'RE DIFFERENT.
10:24:28AM WE'RE IN THE SAME BOAT, BUT WE ARE DIFFERENT.
10:24:31AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH WHEN YOU THINK OF THESE THINGS.
10:24:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: MS. ALDEN, I WAS OUTSIDE FOR SOME OF YOUR
10:24:39AM PRESENTATION SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
10:24:41AM ENJOY WORKING WITH YOU DURING MY TOURS OF DUTY ON THE THEN

10:24:44AM MPO.
10:24:44AM ALWAYS ENJOYED YOU AND MARVELOUS PERSON.
10:24:47AM I TEND TO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE ON THE
10:24:50AM PROPOSED MERGER WHICH IS WE'LL LOSE OUR VOICE.
10:24:52AM WHEN YOU, COUNTIES, CITIES, MUNICIPALITIES HAVE VERY UNIQUE
10:24:57AM NEEDS, ET CETERA, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE SPECIFIC APPOINTEES
10:24:59AM TO THOSE BOARDS FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FROM HILLSBOROUGH
10:25:02AM COUNTY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE
10:25:04AM WATERED DOWN.
10:25:05AM I THINK IT'S NOT THE SAME.
10:25:07AM IT'S FAR FROM IT.
10:25:08AM BUT PROBABLY OPPOSE ON THE SAME PRINCIPLE.
10:25:12AM SOME OF THE STUFF HEAR IN TALLAHASSEE, POWER GRAB, SHRINKING
10:25:16AM THE CIRCUITS DOWN TO POTENTIALLY 6, I WOULD OPPOSE IT UNDER
10:25:21AM THE SAME PRINCIPLE EVEN THOUGH THE ORIGINS ARE VERY
10:25:24AM DIFFERENT, WHICH YOU DILUTE SERIOUSLY THE VOICE OF PEOPLE
10:25:28AM WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH A BIG BODY, THOSE SMALLER VOICES, WHETHER
10:25:32AM IT'S IN THE URBAN CORE, WHETHER IT'S IN NORTH TAMPA, SOUTH
10:25:35AM TAMPA, WHEREVER IT MAY BE, WOULD BE VERY MUCH LOST AND
10:25:39AM DWINDLED.
10:25:40AM I PROBABLY WOULDN'T LOOK UPON IT VERY FAVORABLY FROM WHAT
10:25:44AM I'VE HEARD.
10:25:45AM AGAIN, I ALWAYS APPRECIATE HEARING FROM YOU AND YOU'RE
10:25:47AM ALWAYS A PLEASURE.
10:25:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.

10:25:50AM WE MET EARLIER ON A MEETING CALL ON ZOOM.
10:25:54AM THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT PRESENTATION A FEW MONTHS AGO.
10:25:57AM I'M MORE INTERESTED IN THE FEASIBILITY STUDY COMING OUT WITH
10:26:00AM THE SURVEY RESULTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED AND TO
10:26:05AM SEE WHAT THAT SAYS.
10:26:07AM THERE IS A HUGE ECONOMIC COST TO THIS MATTER OF A MERGER,
10:26:11AM HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE PAID FOR IS ALSO IMPORTANT.
10:26:14AM I'M NOT OPPOSED TO COLLABORATION.
10:26:17AM I JUST FEEL THAT TAMPA IS THE BIG FISH IN THE POND BECAUSE
10:26:22AM WE HAVE THE LARGEST POPULATION.
10:26:25AM AND SO FOR IT TO BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR US, I FEEL LIKE MAYBE
10:26:29AM THE OTHER COUNTIES MAY FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER
10:26:34AM BECAUSE WE HAVE THE GREATEST NEED IN THIS CORRIDOR.
10:26:37AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE SURVEY RESULTS BEFORE I MAKE ANY
10:26:41AM OTHER CONCLUSIONS.
10:26:42AM THANK YOU.
10:26:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:26:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, FIRST, I'M VERY PROREGIONALISM AND
10:26:50AM SUPER REGIONALISM.
10:26:51AM THE FIRST FORUM I DID ON REGIONALISM I THINK WAS IN '96,
10:26:55AM MAYOR FISCHER AND MAYOR GRECO SPEAK, WHICH WAS PRETTY
10:26:59AM CONTROVERSIAL BACK THEN.
10:27:00AM THEN WE GOT THE TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP AND CENTRAL FLORIDA
10:27:02AM PARTNERSHIP TO TALK EVEN BEFORE THE OLYMPIC BID.
10:27:06AM I WAS TALKING TO VIK ABOUT THIS THE OTHER DAY.

10:27:12AM IN THE CASE OF A HURRICANE OR WHATEVER, THE PEOPLE IN
10:27:14AM PINELLAS HAVE TO PASS THROUGH HERE.
10:27:16AM SO WE ARE PART OF A REGIONAL NETWORK.
10:27:18AM IF WE'RE GOING FURTHER EAST, WE HAVE TO PASS THROUGH ORLANDO
10:27:21AM AND EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING THERE.
10:27:23AM IT'S A MESS BETWEEN HERE AND DISNEY AT LEAST.
10:27:28AM AND THEY FIX IT AND THEN TEN YEARS LATER, IT'S A MESS AGAIN.
10:27:31AM WE'VE SEEN IN HURRICANES LIKE CHARLEY, IT TOOK FOUR OR FIVE
10:27:36AM HOURS JUST TO GET BACK FROM ORLANDO WHEN PEOPLE WERE OVER
10:27:39AM THERE.
10:27:39AM WE NEED TO THINK REGIONAL.
10:27:41AM ALSO, PEOPLE DON'T KNOW BOUNDARIES.
10:27:45AM IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN REGIONALISM, GO LOOK AT THE HIGHWAYS
10:27:49AM EVERY MORNING, BRIDGES EVERY MORNING.
10:27:51AM THEY ARE FULL OF PEOPLE, AND THERE IS A TAMPA CENTERED
10:27:55AM ATTITUDE BY SOME PEOPLE WHICH IS SEEN IN A BAD LIGHT BY
10:27:58AM PEOPLE AROUND THE REGION, WHERE WE THINK THAT ALL THE JOBS
10:28:00AM ARE HERE AND PEOPLE ARE DRIVING OVER HERE.
10:28:02AM GO LOOK AT THE BRIDGES, PEOPLE ARE GOING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
10:28:06AM ST. PETE HAS BECOME THE INNOVATION CAPITAL OF OUR REGION IN
10:28:09AM THE LAST FIVE OR TEN YEARS.
10:28:12AM SO THERE'S A LOT OF COMMERCE, A LOT OF MONEY, PEOPLE DOING
10:28:15AM BUSINESS THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO
10:28:18AM IT.
10:28:18AM UNFORTUNATELY, PROPOSALS LIKE TBX WHICH MY COLLEAGUE

10:28:22AM MENTIONED WHICH REALLY HURT.
10:28:24AM THEY HAVE HURT AND COULD HAVE HURT EVEN WORSE SOME OF OUR
10:28:27AM HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:28:28AM SO WE HAVE TO THINK THROUGH THAT.
10:28:30AM IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH, BUT
10:28:32AM WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT OTHER SOLUTIONS.
10:28:34AM ALSO, THE HEAVY PUSH USING THE LEXIS LANES AND BRT WHICH I
10:28:44AM WAS AGAINST.
10:28:44AM I TALKED ABOUT THE FAILED TRANSIT REFERENDUM AT LEAST THE
10:28:47AM LAST THREE IN HILLSBOROUGH WHICH WERE BADLY PLANNED AND
10:28:51AM BADLY RUN.
10:28:52AM SOMEHOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK TOGETHER.
10:28:55AM ANOTHER THING, I MENTIONED TAMPA IS SEEN AS A BULLY
10:29:02AM SOMETIMES -- MANY TIMES IN THE REGION.
10:29:04AM GREATEST EXAMPLE IS THE TAMPA BAY EDC WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT
10:29:07AM HEAVILY FOUR YEARS AGO, BUT THEY WERE CALLED THE TAMPA EDC.
10:29:10AM CHANGED THEIR NAME TO TAMPA BAY EDC.
10:29:13AM GUESS WHAT, ST. PETE, PINELLAS STOPPED USING THE TERM TAMPA
10:29:16AM BAY AS MUCH.
10:29:18AM WITH THE BUCS AND OTHER SPORTS TEAMS THEY HAD FOR 30 YEARS
10:29:20AM OR MORE BUILT A REGIONAL BRAND THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT
10:29:23AM THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
10:29:24AM WITH ONE DECISION THEY KILLED REGIONALISM.
10:29:26AM WHEN YOU HAVE COMPANIES LIKE PFIZER COME TO THE AREA, THEY
10:29:29AM DON'T SHOW THEM PINELLAS COUNTY.

10:29:31AM THEY DON'T SHOW THEM ST. PETE OR CLEARWATER, THEY ONLY SHOW
10:29:33AM THEM TAMPA.
10:29:34AM AND THAT WAS AFTER SOMEBODY ELSE RECRUITED THEM TO COME
10:29:36AM HERE, BY THE WAY.
10:29:37AM ADAM HARDEN.
10:29:39AM SO WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HOW WE FUND THINGS.
10:29:43AM WE DEFINITELY NEED REPRESENTATION FOR TAMPA, AS MY
10:29:45AM COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, AND WE NEED TO PROTECT TAMPA'S
10:29:48AM INTERESTS BUT BE GOOD PLAYERS IN THE REGION.
10:29:50AM WE CAN'T REPLICATE THE BULLY MENTALITY OF THE TAMPA BAY EDC.
10:29:53AM THE TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP HAS GONE UP AND DOWN OVER THE
10:29:56AM YEARS.
10:29:57AM THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE I THINK A GREAT LEADER NOW WHO IS VERY
10:30:00AM REGIONALLY FOCUSED.
10:30:03AM BUT CONTROVERSIAL IN THE BEGINNING THAT IT WAS BASED IN
10:30:05AM TAMPA.
10:30:05AM THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON SOME ISSUES.
10:30:07AM I THINK THE MOST SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP IN OUR REGION, THE
10:30:10AM ONLY REALLY TRULY SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIP IN OUR REGION THAT
10:30:13AM IS AN INTERNATIONAL CASE STUDY IS TAMPA BAY WATER.
10:30:16AM IF NOT FOR TAMPA BAY WATER, WE WOULD BE PURSUING 2 TO 6
10:30:22AM BILLION DOLLAR TOILET TO TAP PROJECT RIGHT NOW.
10:30:26AM IN THIS CASE, OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS HELP PROTECT US FROM
10:30:29AM OURSELVES WHEN SOME PEOPLE WANTED TO PUSH A BAD PROJECT.
10:30:34AM LOOK AT TBARTA WHICH WAS KIND OF SUPPOSED TO BE SOMETHING

10:30:36AM LIKE THIS IDEA.
10:30:38AM IT WAS CREATED BY THE TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP UNDER THE OLD
10:30:42AM REGIME.
10:30:42AM IT WAS A DISASTER FROM THE BEGINNING BECAUSE THEY
10:30:44AM COMPROMISED TOO MUCH AND DIDN'T PUT IN FUNDING FOR IT.
10:30:47AM ACTUALLY LITERALLY HELPED WRITE THE 2035 PLAN 15 YEARS AGO
10:30:53AM AND NONE OF IT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO
10:30:56AM BRING THE REGION TOGETHER TO REALLY LOBBY AND BUILD POWER.
10:30:58AM THE REASON WHY ORLANDO GETS SO MUCH MONEY, OR THEY HAVE IN
10:31:01AM THE LAST 20 YEARS, IS BECAUSE THEY BUILT A TEAM TO GET POWER
10:31:05AM AND INFLUENCE IN TALLAHASSEE.
10:31:07AM I THINK WE NEED TO WORK AS A REGION.
10:31:10AM WE NEED TO PROTECT TAMPA'S INTERESTS, BUT WE NEED TO SHOW
10:31:14AM ALSO THAT WE'RE GOOD PARTNERS REGIONALLY IF WE CONTINUE TO
10:31:18AM HAVE OUR OWN ORGANIZATIONS, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO
10:31:21AM WORK TOGETHER.
10:31:21AM TWO LAST THINGS.
10:31:22AM I MET WITH THE UNDERSECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION WHEN HE WAS
10:31:28AM HERE.
10:31:29AM THE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE IS LOOKING FOR SHOVEL-READY PROJECTS
10:31:32AM FOR US TO DO.
10:31:33AM SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO, WHATEVER FORM, IF WE CAN GET THOSE
10:31:36AM PLANS BUILT AND PROJECTS SET UP, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF
10:31:40AM FUNDING AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL THAT WE CAN GET.
10:31:42AM THE LAST THING IS JUST TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND

10:31:45AM HARD WORK AND YOUR VISION OVER MANY YEARS.
10:31:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:31:48AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION?
10:31:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:31:52AM JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.
10:31:54AM YOU MENTIONED ORLANDO AS HAVING A SUCCESSFUL MPO, REGIONAL
10:32:01AM MPO, BUT I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE MIAMI, SOUTH
10:32:04AM FLORIDA AREA, HAS CHOSEN NOT TO, AND THEY ARE ALSO VERY
10:32:08AM SUCCESSFUL IN WHAT THEY DO.
10:32:09AM ALSO TO MENTION THAT TOMORROW, I'M GOING TO THE VERY LAST
10:32:13AM MEETING OF TBARTA.
10:32:14AM SO THAT HAS NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND THE PUSH FOR OTHER
10:32:25AM COUNTIES TO LOOK AT US AS A THOROUGHFARE IS A VERY DIFFICULT
10:32:33AM DISCUSSION.
10:32:33AM I LOOK HEAVILY AT THE CONS OF EMPHASIS ON REGIONAL PROJECTS
10:32:39AM THAT COULD DESTROY DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ALL NOW ARE
10:32:46AM BEING AFFECTED BY THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S ALREADY GOING ON
10:32:49AM AND THE EXPANSION OF THAT AND HOW THAT COULD FURTHER DESTROY
10:32:54AM THE FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY.
10:32:56AM SO IN LOOKING AT THIS MOU, UNDER ARTICLE II, SUBSECTION E,
10:33:07AM WHERE IT SAYS, OUTREACH TO ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN THE
10:33:09AM METROPOLITAN PLANNING AREA AS AN IMPORTANT STEP IN THE
10:33:12AM REGIONAL MPO FORMATION PROCESS AND INDIVIDUAL MPOs WILL
10:33:15AM DEVELOP A COORDINATED PRESENTATION AND ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY
10:33:18AM TO FULLY INFORM AND SEEK INPUT FOR ALL AFFECTED LOCAL

10:33:24AM GOVERNMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A SENTENCE AFTER THAT THAT
10:33:26AM SAYS, THE LARGEST INCORPORATED CITY WITHIN EACH MPO WILL BE
10:33:29AM PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE FORMAL ACTION ON THE
10:33:32AM RECOMMENDED APPROACH TO A REGIONAL MPO PRIOR TO THE
10:33:36AM RESPECTIVE MPO MOVING FORWARD WITH REGIONALIZATION.
10:33:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
10:33:41AM HURTAK.
10:33:42AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:33:43AM ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION?
10:33:46AM >> CAN YOU STATE IT AGAIN FOR ME?
10:33:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.
10:33:50AM THE LARGEST INCORPORATED CITY WITHIN EACH EXISTING MPO,
10:33:54AM WHICH IS US AND ST. PETE --
10:33:58AM >> NEW PORT RICHEY.
10:33:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NEW PORT RICHEY, OKAY.
10:34:01AM WILL BE PROVIDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE FORMAL ACTION ON
10:34:04AM THE RECOMMENDED APPROACH TO A REGIONAL MPO PRIOR TO THE
10:34:08AM RESPECTIVE MPO MOVING FORWARD WITH REGIONALIZATION.
10:34:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
10:34:14AM HURTAK.
10:34:15AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:34:16AM ANY DISCUSSION?
10:34:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT QUESTIONING THE MOTION, BUT I
10:34:21AM THINK POPULATION IN PASCO COUNTY, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A
10:34:24AM SHIFT TO ANOTHER CITY OTHER THAN NEW PORT RICHEY, BUT I'M

10:34:26AM NOT CERTAIN.
10:34:27AM YOU BETTER RESEARCH THAT.
10:34:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S NOT WRITTEN IN HERE.
10:34:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S FINE.
10:34:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
10:34:34AM >> AYE.
10:34:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OPPOSED?
10:34:36AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:34:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU WANT TO CALL THE VOTE FIRST?
10:34:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU SAY YES OR NO?
10:34:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID YES.
10:34:47AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:34:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
10:34:52AM MENTIONED ORLANDO VERSUS MIAMI.
10:34:54AM ONE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES FROM US AND ORLANDO AND ORLANDO
10:35:03AM AND MIAMI IS THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO MAJOR CITIES, IN
10:35:07AM OUR CASE, THREE OR FOUR MAJOR CITIES IN OUR AREA.
10:35:10AM IN MIAMI, SOMETIMES FT. LAUDERDALE DOESN'T FEEL A PART OF
10:35:14AM THE REGION.
10:35:15AM SO IT'S NOT EASY FOR THEM TO GET TOGETHER.
10:35:18AM ORLANDO, WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO IS PUT ORLANDO IN
10:35:21AM THE MIDDLE AND BRING EVERYBODY, SAME THING AS ATLANTA.
10:35:24AM BUT WE HAVE POPULATIONS MIGHT BE DIFFERENT BUT WE HAVE AT
10:35:28AM LEAST TWO OR THREE CITIES THAT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE LOOK
10:35:32AM AT EACH OTHER AS BEING EQUAL.

10:35:34AM SO WE HAVE TO DELICATELY WALK THAT BALANCE WHICH I THINK CAN
10:35:38AM BE DONE.
10:35:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:39AM YES, MA'AM.
10:35:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO BRING FORWARD WHAT I THINK
10:35:45AM IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST POINTS FOR US AS A COUNCIL AND THAT
10:35:48AM THE POTENTIAL OF A REGIONAL MPO TO WEAKEN THAT COORDINATION
10:35:53AM BETWEEN LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION THAT WE'RE WORKING SO
10:35:56AM HARD TO DO RIGHT NOW.
10:35:57AM SO I WOULD JUST LIKE, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE NEXT STEPS
10:36:00AM ARE IN TERMS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND OUR COUNCIL AND WHEN
10:36:06AM WILL THIS COME BEFORE US AGAIN?
10:36:08AM AND WHAT KINDS OF THINGS CAN WE EXPECT?
10:36:11AM WOULD WE HAVE A VOTE?
10:36:14AM CAN YOU JUST KIND OF ELABORATE FOR THE PUBLIC AND OURSELVES?
10:36:18AM >>BETH ALDEN: SURE.
10:36:19AM SO THERE IS A GROUP CALLED THE TAMPA BAY TMA LEADERSHIP
10:36:23AM GROUP, TAMPA BAY TRANSPORTATION MANAGEMENT AREA LEADERSHIP
10:36:26AM GROUP, WHICH IS A PART OF THE SUNCOAST TRANSPORTATION
10:36:28AM PLANNING ALLIANCE.
10:36:29AM AND IT MEETS QUARTERLY.
10:36:32AM IT INCLUDES THREE REPRESENTATIVES FROM EACH OF THE MPOs
10:36:37AM AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS A MEMBER OF THAT.
10:36:40AM THAT GROUP WILL BE REVIEWING THE CHOICES FOR THINGS LIKE THE
10:36:46AM VOTING MEMBERSHIP OF THE BOARD.

10:36:50AM A TYPICAL BUDGET, A TYPICAL STAFFING PLAN, LOGISTICS LIKE
10:37:00AM WHERE WOULD IT BE LOCATED, WHERE WOULD MEETINGS BE HELD, HOW
10:37:04AM WOULD PUBLIC INPUT OPPORTUNITIES BE PROVIDED, THE ADVISORY
10:37:10AM COMMITTEES, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY VOLUNTEERS, SO LIKE A
10:37:14AM CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, TRANSPORTATION DISADVANTAGED
10:37:18AM BOARD WHERE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATE.
10:37:19AM RIGHT NOW, THOSE MEETINGS OCCUR WITHIN EACH COUNTY, WOULD
10:37:22AM THOSE BE MERGED AND HELD AT ONE CENTRAL LOCATION OR WOULD WE
10:37:26AM CONTINUE TO HAVE SEPARATE MEETINGS SERVING EACH COUNTY FOR
10:37:30AM PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN?
10:37:31AM SO A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS TO BE CONSIDERED, AND
10:37:38AM THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED AT THE TMA LEADERSHIP GROUP MEETINGS
10:37:41AM ON A QUARTERLY BASIS WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BACK TO
10:37:47AM EACH OF THE THREE MPOs.
10:37:48AM THE MPOs CAN THEN CHOOSE TO SUPPORT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
10:37:53AM IT WILL BE ULTIMATELY UP TO THE MPO BOARD TO MAKE AN ACTION.
10:38:00AM THE MPO BOARDS NEED TO BE CONTINUING TO CONSULT WITH EACH OF
10:38:05AM THE MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.
10:38:06AM THE REASON WHY I'M SAYING NEED TO AND NOT SAYING I WILL
10:38:09AM ENSURE THIS HAPPENS IS BECAUSE AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
10:38:12AM MENTIONED I AM RETIRING IN NOVEMBER.
10:38:15AM I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD,
10:38:17AM THAT EACH OF THE MPOs, AS IT CONSIDERS TAKING ACTION ON
10:38:22AM RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE TRI-COUNTY GROUP, WOULD BE
10:38:24AM CONSULTING WITH ITS MEMBER GOVERNMENTS.

10:38:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE TO SAY ONE MORE THING.
10:38:37AM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION IN TAMPA, A LOT OF PEOPLE
10:38:42AM EQUATE TRANSPORTATION WITH MASS TRANSIT.
10:38:44AM PART OF THE REASON INITIATIVES HAVE FAILED IS BECAUSE WE
10:38:49AM DON'T HAVE THE PLANNING OVERLAY IN OUR COMMUNITY TO ENABLE
10:38:57AM TRANSPORTATION.
10:38:57AM SO WHEN FOLKS PUT DOWN A MAP AND SAY HERE IS WHERE BRT OR
10:39:02AM RAIL OR SOMETHING WOULD GO, THEY SHOW DOTS WHERE THE
10:39:05AM STATIONS WILL BE AND THEN THEY TALK ABOUT TRANSIT ORIENTED
10:39:09AM DEVELOPMENT AND PART OF THE JUSTIFICATION FOR IT.
10:39:11AM THAT IS A WAY THAT SOME CITIES DO IT, BUT THE OTHER WAY IS
10:39:16AM THAT YOU BUILD NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT
10:39:19AM YOUR CITY AND THEN YOU CONNECT THEM WITH TRANSPORTATION.
10:39:21AM AND THAT'S WHAT I THINK PROGRESSIVE CITIES DO.
10:39:23AM WE AS A CITY COUNCIL PUSH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL
10:39:26AM DISTRICT IDEA THREE YEARS AGO, THE CITY BETA TESTED IT AND
10:39:31AM PALMA CEIA AND WEST TAMPA, BUT IT HASN'T GONE FORWARD SINCE
10:39:35AM THEN.
10:39:36AM WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO START THAT NEIGHBORHOOD
10:39:38AM COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PLAN GOING FORWARD.
10:39:41AM WHERE WOULD YOU PUT A TRAIN OR BUS STATION ANYWAY?
10:39:43AM YOU'LL PUT IT OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:39:46AM THERE SHOULD BE CENTERS TO NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:39:47AM TRANSPORTATION PLANNERS CALL THEM NODES INSTEAD OF

10:39:49AM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS, BUT WE NEED PLACES THAT
10:39:52AM PEOPLE NATURALLY CONGREGATE.
10:39:55AM MY POINT IS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE CONTROL OF THAT.
10:39:57AM I SPENT LONG DISCUSSIONS WITH NICOLE, SOME WITH ALIS, ERICA,
10:40:04AM AND STEVE AND VINCENT.
10:40:08AM WE CAN TAKE CONTROL OF OUR PLAN AND CITY AND BUILD
10:40:11AM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS NOW.
10:40:13AM DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR TRANSIT.
10:40:15AM CAN BUILD THE NODES NOW AND EVERYBODY WILL UNDERSTAND WHY WE
10:40:18AM NEED TRANSIT TO CONNECT THOSE NODES.
10:40:19AM THANK YOU.
10:40:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE LAST TIME.
10:40:23AM I'M SORRY.
10:40:23AM ONE I AGREE WITH AND BEEN A LONG ADVOCATE FOR THE COMMERCIAL
10:40:26AM DISTRICTS, SO I'LL BE ON BOARD AND LIKE TO BREATHE MORE LIFE
10:40:30AM INTO THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:40:32AM POINT OF PRIVILEGE, I'VE ONLY BEEN ON THE TPO A SHORT PERIOD
10:40:36AM OF TIME.
10:40:36AM I APPRECIATED WORKING WITH YOU.
10:40:38AM THOSE FOLKS NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE WORK THAT BETH HAS DONE ON
10:40:41AM THE TPO, I THINK SHE'S DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOCK.
10:40:45AM MOST ADMIRABLE AS SHE LOOKS TOWARD RETIREMENT, HER PLANNING
10:40:49AM FOR SUCCESSION HAS BEEN AMAZING.
10:40:52AM I THINK A LEADERSHIP EXAMPLE THAT ANY ORGANIZATION OR ANY
10:40:54AM BODY OR ORGANIZATION SHOULD FOLLOW.

10:40:57AM SHE'S BEEN A GOOD STEWARD OF THE ORGANIZATION AND ENSURING
10:40:59AM THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE LEADERSHIP AND FOLLOW IN HER
10:41:05AM FOOTSTEPS.
10:41:05AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:41:06AM COMING IN AT THE LAST MINUTE AND SEEING IT AND WITNESSING, I
10:41:10AM WANT TO LET YOU KNOW I RECOGNIZE AND THANK YOU.
10:41:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:14AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:41:15AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAD A REQUEST.
10:41:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LIKE FOR THE HISPANIC COMMITTEE THAT
10:41:22AM REPRESENTS THE CITY OF TAMPA TO COME FORWARD.
10:41:25AM THEY WILL OFFER US AN INVITATION FOR THE 35th ANNUAL
10:41:29AM HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE.
10:41:31AM LET ME INTRODUCE THEM.
10:41:33AM INTRODUCE YOURSELVES, PLEASE.
10:41:35AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:41:35AM BUENOS DIAS.
10:41:37AM MELISSA MARTINEZ.
10:41:37AM I AM THE CHAIR FOR THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE.
10:41:47AM >> MY NAME IS SALIS ORTIZ.
10:41:53AM I AM THE TREASURER.
10:41:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:41:56AM LYDIA PAZARRO, TAMPA POLICE MEMBER, OVER 20 YEARS OF THE
10:42:02AM MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE.
10:42:05AM >> GOOD MORNING, ALL.

10:42:08AM JOSE A. SANCHEZ, MEMBER, HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE, ALSO
10:42:14AM WASTEWATER ENGINEER EMPLOYEE.
10:42:17AM ARE.
10:42:21AM >> MARY ELLA GOMEZ, ALSO A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE.
10:42:24AM I'M WITH MOBILITY AND STORMWATER.
10:42:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:42:29AM MY NAME IS RUGINA CASTILLO.
10:42:31AM I AM THE DIVERSITY COORDINATOR AND I'M A MEMBER AS WELL.
10:42:38AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:42:39AM MY NAME IS JONATHAN ZELIA.
10:42:40AM A NEW MEMBER TO THE COMMITTEE.
10:42:42AM VERY HONORED TO BE HERE.
10:42:43AM THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
10:42:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
10:42:54AM >> HELLO.
10:42:54AM MY NAME IS SANDRA KINDER.
10:42:57AM I AM A MEMBER OF THE MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE.
10:42:59AM AND I AM ALSO PRIVILEGED TO WORK IN REVENUE AND FINANCE.
10:43:02AM THANK YOU.
10:43:06AM >> HI.
10:43:06AM MY NAME IS JULIO RIVERA.
10:43:10AM PARKS AND RECREATION AND FORMER CHAIR OF THE MAYOR'S
10:43:12AM HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE.
10:43:15AM >> THANK YOU.
10:43:16AM I THINK MARISSA WANTS TO MAKE AN INVITATION.

10:43:19AM SE ORA MARTINEZ FOR THE 35th ANNUAL HISPANIC HERITAGE
10:43:25AM CELEBRATION AT THE TAMPA THEATRE.
10:43:27AM >> YES, GOOD MORNING.
10:43:27AM THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS BRIEF TIME.
10:43:31AM I'LL BE BRIEF.
10:43:31AM OUR COMMITTEE IS HERE TODAY TO INVITE YOU TO OUR 35th
10:43:35AM ANNUAL HISPANIC HERITAGE CELEBRATION ON SEPTEMBER 27th AT
10:43:38AM 11 IN THE MORNING.
10:43:39AM IT'S GOING TO BE HELD AT THE HISTORIC TAMPA THEATRE.
10:43:42AM OUR GUEST SPEAKER THIS YEAR IS ADRI COLINA, THE CITY OF
10:43:46AM TAMPA DIRECTOR OF LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.
10:43:49AM WE HAVE FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT, TAMPA BAY FLAMENCO DANCE
10:43:56AM COMPANY AND TAMPA GYMNASTICS AND DANCE STARS.
10:43:59AM THE EVENT IS FREE TO THE PUBLIC.
10:44:00AM OUR COMMITTEE WILL BE PROVIDING FREE LUNCHES TO THE FIRST
10:44:03AM 200 GUESTS.
10:44:04AM WE WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA FOR ALWAYS BEING
10:44:10AM SUPPORTIVE OF OUR COMMITTEE AND FOR ADDING US REALLY QUICK
10:44:14AM TO THIS AGENDA MEETING TODAY.
10:44:16AM WE HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.
10:44:18AM THANK YOU.
10:44:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:44:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOW WE WILL BE MAKING THAT ANNOUNCEMENT
10:44:22AM TODAY AT THE END OF THE MEETING FOR THE OFFICIAL ON THE
10:44:26AM 35th ANNUAL CELEBRATION OF HISPANIC PEOPLE THAT LIVED

10:44:30AM THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
10:44:37AM >> THANK YOU.
10:44:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:44:38AM WE'LL SEE YOU THEN.
10:44:40AM >> THANK YOU.
10:44:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:44:43AM IF ANYBODY IS HERE AND WISHES TO SPEAK -- DO WE HAVE THE
10:44:49AM REGISTERED SPEAKERS ONLINE?
10:44:50AM I KNOW WE HAD THREE, BUT ONE IS IN THE AUDIENCE.
10:44:54AM LET'S GO TO THE REGISTERED.
10:45:00AM MICHAEL RANDOLPH AND JOE CORCORAN.
10:45:04AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:45:08AM >> MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:45:09AM WEST TAMPA CDC.
10:45:14AM FIRST OFF, START OUT BY -- THE LADY WHO SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT
10:45:21AM CIVIL RIGHTS.
10:45:22AM I'M 67 AND 37 BUT I HAVE A HEART OF A CHILD BECAUSE I ALWAYS
10:45:37AM BELIEVE IN THE POSSIBILITIES.
10:45:38AM I BELIEVE THAT ECONOMICS LEADS TO CIVIL RIGHTS.
10:45:42AM [INAUDIBLE]
10:45:49AM WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT OUR MOST -- COMMERCE INITIATIVES
10:45:59AM POWERED BY ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
10:46:07AM THE PROGRAM WILL FOCUS ON -- WHAT WE PLAN TO DO IS MONETIZE.
10:46:21AM HEAD OF HOUSEHOLDS, PAY RENT AS WELL AS --
10:46:38AM THE FACT IS LESS THAN 3% OF AFRICAN AMERICANS OWN THEIR

10:46:46AM HOMES.
10:46:50AM [INDISCERNIBLE]
10:46:52AM OUR FOCUS IS -- PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS, ASSIST THEM IN, MORE
10:47:04AM IMPORTANTLY, --
10:47:11AM THE OTHER THING WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE PROVIDING PROFESSIONAL
10:47:34AM -- WEST TAMPA -- PROFESSIONAL TRAINING SO YOU CAN TAKE IT TO
10:47:45AM THE NEXT LEVEL.
10:47:46AM I'M ASKING TODAY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT PEOPLE -- WHAT
10:47:55AM THEY ARE -- THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
10:48:02AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:48:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:48:12AM ALL RIGHT.
10:48:14AM OUR LAST REGISTERED SPEAKER ONLINE IS JOE CORCORAN.
10:48:17AM IF YOU ARE ONLINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:48:19AM THEN WE'LL GO TO THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE HERE.
10:48:21AM >> YES, SIR.
10:48:22AM I'M ONLINE.
10:48:23AM CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME?
10:48:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:48:26AM GO AHEAD.
10:48:27AM >> JILL CORCORAN, 2913 WEST SANTIAGO STREET, WHICH STRADDLES
10:48:31AM THE PROPERTY 2915 WEST SANTIAGO STREET THAT IS MY
10:48:34AM DAUGHTER'S, ALEXANDRA.
10:48:37AM WE HAVE THE SHARED TREE IN OUR FRONT YARD THAT THE
10:48:41AM RITZ-CARLTON IS DESPERATE TO PAVE OVER AND THERE ARE A

10:48:43AM NUMBER OF REASONS THAT I CAN SPECULATE ON.
10:48:45AM BUT PAVED ON THE REPORT I'M READING, THEY ARE WISHING TO
10:48:49AM HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT TILTS TOWARDS THE TREE.
10:48:52AM THEY ALSO HAVE STATED THAT THEY WANT TO PUT IT ON GRADE SO
10:48:56AM IT MATCHES THE TOP OF THE CURB.
10:48:58AM EITHER ONE OF THESE WILL DAMAGE THE STRUCTURAL ROOTS.
10:49:01AM IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT IT WILL.
10:49:03AM EACH OF THE ARBORISTS THAT YOU SPOKE OF EARLIER TODAY HAVE
10:49:07AM STATED THAT THIS IS A BETTER SOLUTION, BUT WHEN ASKED, EACH
10:49:12AM ONE OF THEM, WHEN ASKED, WILL THIS HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT ON
10:49:16AM THE TREE, REFUSED FLAT OUT TO ANSWER ME.
10:49:20AM I'M SURE THEY WOULD ANSWER YOU BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE FORCED
10:49:22AM TO, BUT THEY REFUSED TO ANSWER ME BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO
10:49:25AM SAY, OF COURSE, IT WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE EFFECT.
10:49:27AM IT'S GOING TO DAMAGE THE STRUCTURAL ROOTS.
10:49:32AM THE ONLY WAY TO NOT DAMAGE THE ROOTS IS ELIMINATE THE
10:49:34AM SIDEWALK OR CHANGE THE SIDEWALK TO BE A BOARDWALK THAT IS
10:49:37AM WOOD THAT GOES AROUND IT AND WON'T DESTROY THE STRUCTURAL
10:49:39AM ROOTS TO THIS 450 TO 500-YEAR-OLD ANCIENT OAK TREE.
10:49:44AM THEY HAVE ALREADY RAPED 22 ACRES OF OUR LAND OF THE TREES,
10:49:52AM INCLUDING A DOZEN GRAND OAKS.
10:49:53AM TO REPLACE WITH HUGE CEMENT AND STEEL TOWER GLASS, THEY
10:49:57AM REPLACED ALL OF THE HOUSING AFFORDABLE AND COULD HAVE BEEN
10:50:00AM LIVED IN BY ANYONE IN THE CITY WITH THINGS THAT RUN FROM $2
10:50:03AM MILLION WITH A $3,000 MONTHLY MAINTENANCE FEE AND UP, UP TO

10:50:10AM $12 MILLION.
10:50:11AM THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE WALKING UP AND DOWN
10:50:14AM SANTIAGO STREET.
10:50:15AM AND IF THEY WERE, THEY COULD WALK DOWN THE OTHER SIDE
10:50:17AM BECAUSE AS I POINTED OUT THE LAST TIME, THEY ARE ONLY ADDING
10:50:20AM TWO ADDITIONAL UNITS TO THE 200 UNITS THAT ONCE RESIDED ON
10:50:23AM THE 22 ACRES THAT THEY HAVE TORN EVERY TREE OUT OF.
10:50:27AM NOW THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE 202 RESIDENCES.
10:50:30AM AND THESE ARE RESIDENCES FOR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT GO FOR WALKS
10:50:33AM EVERY NIGHT.
10:50:34AM THESE ARE THE UBERWEALTHY PEOPLE WHO WILL NOT BE USING THESE
10:50:39AM SIDEWALKS LIKE WE USE THEM EVERY DAY.
10:50:41AM THEY WANT TO REMOVE THIS TREE IN MY OPINION BECAUSE MY TREE
10:50:46AM STOPS THE VIEW FROM THE 12 TOWN HOUSES THEY HAVE PUT UP IN
10:50:49AM THE BACK WHERE THEY WERE ALLOWED TO TEAR DOWN MORE THAN 2
10:50:53AM DOZEN MORE TREES.
10:50:53AM AND I AM BLOCKING THEIR VIEW WITH THAT ANCIENT OAK TREE.
10:50:57AM I WOULD ASK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL INSIST THAT THEY EITHER
10:51:01AM PUT IN A WOOD BOARDWALK SO IT DOESN'T DESTROY THE TREE OR
10:51:04AM ELIMINATE THE SIDEWALK ALTOGETHER BECAUSE THAT STREET HAS
10:51:08AM NEVER HAD A SIDEWALK.
10:51:09AM THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE END OF OUR STREET, AND THE
10:51:12AM ONLY OTHER THING THAT THEY WOULD DO IF THEY PUT THAT
10:51:14AM SIDEWALK ON SANTIAGO IS THEN WANT TO PUT A SIDEWALK ALONG
10:51:18AM ISABELLA WHERE WE HAVE FOUR OAKS TREES THAT ARE NOT

10:51:22AM PROTECTED BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO OR THREE INCHES SHY OF BEING
10:51:25AM GRAND OAKS.
10:51:26AM THEY CUT DOWN EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEIR OAKS ALONG THE
10:51:29AM STREET BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AT
10:51:31AM ALL.
10:51:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:33AM ALL RIGHT.
10:51:38AM YES, MA'AM, I SEE YOU ARE FIRST FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, IF YOU
10:51:41AM WOULD LIKE TO COME UP, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:51:43AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:51:51AM >> HAPPY THURSDAY.
10:51:52AM I WOULD LIKE THIS TO SPEND MOST OF MY TIME, THE LORD IS MY
10:51:57AM SHEPHERD.
10:51:59AM I SHALL NOT WANT.
10:52:00AM I WOULD LIKE TO DEDICATE MY TIME TO THE GREAT LADIES AND
10:52:03AM GENTLEMEN OF RAYMOND JAMES STADIUM.
10:52:06AM THEY ARE SO ORGANIZED, AND BE ABOUT 500 PEOPLE THERE, THEY
10:52:13AM GET EVERYBODY, THEIR JOBS, THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION.
10:52:17AM IT IS JUST WONDERFUL.
10:52:22AM BLACK TIE, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE AND THEY MAKE SURE
10:52:26AM WE ALL HAVE JOBS THAT THEY LIKE TO PUT US OLDER PEOPLE IN
10:52:31AM THE SUN, BUT I GOT A CHANCE TO GO INTO THE EAST LOBBY, THE
10:52:35AM WEST LOBBY, THE SUITE, I'M GETTING TO KNOW IT.
10:52:40AM AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR GOOD JOB.
10:52:45AM NOW I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR MR. STEINBRENNER SO I CAN CONTACT

10:52:50AM HIM.
10:52:51AM I JUST THANK BEYONCE.
10:52:53AM THE NIGHT OF HER CONCERT, BOUNCING OFF OF ST. JOSEPH'S
10:52:57AM HOSPITAL WALLS.
10:52:58AM THE CURTAIN WAS OPEN AND IT WAS WONDERFUL AND I GOT THE BEAT
10:53:02AM TO MEET MOST OF THE GENERATION X, THE YOUNGER PEOPLE AND IT
10:53:07AM WAS JUST GREAT.
10:53:08AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
10:53:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:53:09AM YES, MA'AM.
10:53:14AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:53:15AM >> HI.
10:53:20AM MY NAME IS ALLISON CONN.
10:53:24AM 6220 SOUTH JONES ROAD.
10:53:27AM I JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR MEETING WITH THE
10:53:30AM INTERBAY LITTLE LEAGUE AND REPRESENTING OUR DISTRICT.
10:53:33AM I FEEL SO FORTUNATE TO ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN HERE THIS MORNING
10:53:35AM AND HEARD DR. CLAYTON SPEAK.
10:53:37AM SOMETHING PROFOUND THAT SHE SAID IS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD FEEL
10:53:41AM THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HERE AND BELONG.
10:53:42AM SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE FEELING
10:53:45AM YOU GET AS A PARENT OR PARTICIPANT WHEN YOU GO TO THE
10:53:49AM INTERBAY LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD.
10:53:52AM FEELS NEGLECTED, DISCARDED AND FORGOTTEN.
10:53:55AM AT GADSDEN PARK IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE

10:53:59AM HISTORY IS WOVEN INTO TAMPA BAY.
10:54:00AM OUR LEAGUE NOT ONLY SERVES THE CHILDREN SOUTH OF GANDY BUT
10:54:03AM ALSO THE MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE AND THE FAMILIES THAT SO
10:54:06AM GRACIOUSLY SERVE OUR COUNTRY.
10:54:07AM IT GIVES A SENSE OF BELONGING, OPPORTUNITY TO INVOLVE.
10:54:13AM HOWEVER MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES ARE PREVENTING THIS
10:54:15AM DIVERSE COMMUNITY FROM FEELING LIKE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO
10:54:17AM BE THERE, BELONG AND RESPECTED.
10:54:19AM THE LACK OF ADA ACCESSIBILITY AT THE FIELD IS SEEN WITH THE
10:54:23AM RESTROOMS THAT STILL HAVE COMBINED ACCESS FOR MEN AND WOMEN
10:54:27AM WHICH IS UNSAFE FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
10:54:29AM ALSO DOES NOT HAVE ADA RESTROOM.
10:54:31AM GRAVEL PARKING WHICH PREVENTS PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS AND WITH
10:54:33AM DISABILITIES FROM EASILY ACCESSING AND LEAVING THEIR
10:54:38AM VEHICLES.
10:54:38AM AND ALSO SIDEWALKS NEAR THE BASEBALL CONCESSION STAND.
10:54:43AM IT DOES A DISSERVICE TO OUR BASEBALL COMMUNITY OUTREACH
10:54:46AM DIVISION THE CHALLENGER WHICH ALSO PROVIDES KIDS WITH
10:54:49AM PHYSICAL AND INTELLECTUAL ABILITIES TO PLAY.
10:54:52AM AS WELL AS DISABLED VETERANS WHO HAVE CHILDREN IN THE
10:54:54AM LEAGUE.
10:54:54AM I MYSELF HAVE SEEN A GUY THAT IS LIKE A FULL AMPUTEE IN A
10:54:59AM WHEELCHAIR AND HE HAD THE HARDEST TIME JUST MANEUVERING
10:55:03AM AROUND THE FIELD TO SEE HIS SON PLAY.
10:55:05AM IT'S HEARTBREAKING THAT HE'S GIVEN HIS LIFE FOR OUR COUNTRY

10:55:08AM AND SUFFERING LONG-TERM EFFECTS AND WE CAN'T GIVE HIM THE
10:55:10AM HONOR HE DESERVES AND RESPECT.
10:55:12AM SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALSO SEVERELY LACKING JUST IN
10:55:18AM SAFETY WITH THE BUILDINGS.
10:55:20AM THEY DEFINITELY NEED SOME UPDATES MADE SO THEY CAN BE SAFE
10:55:24AM FOR PEOPLE TO USE AND FOR THE CONCESSION STANDS AND GARAGE
10:55:29AM THAT'S LOCATED ON-SITE.
10:55:31AM IN ADDITION TO THE STORMWATER ISSUES THAT ARE PREVENTING
10:55:34AM OBVIOUSLY THE FIELDS TO REALLY FLOOD AND NOT TO BE USED MOST
10:55:37AM OF THE TIME.
10:55:38AM AS EVERYONE HAS TALKED, THERE IS A LOT OF OVERBUILDING IN
10:55:41AM THE AREA AND WHILE A LOT OF US HOMEOWNERS ARE MAKING
10:55:44AM ACCOMMODATIONS TO FIX THE DRAINAGE IN THE AREA, THE PARKS
10:55:48AM NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT AS WELL.
10:55:50AM I'M JUST HERE IN HOPES THAT YOU CAN -- WE DO KNOW I GUESS
10:55:57AM FROM SPEAKING WITH MR. CARLSON THAT THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS
10:56:01AM IN THE QUEUE, BUT I'M JUST HERE TO COMMUNICATE A SENSE OF
10:56:03AM URGENCY THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED A LITTLE BIT SOONER
10:56:08AM IN HOPES THAT YOU GUYS CAN SHOW BALLAST POINT, INTERBAY AND
10:56:11AM SOUTH GANDY COMMUNITY ALONG WITH OUR DISABLED CHILDREN AND
10:56:14AM VETERANS THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HERE, THEY ARE
10:56:16AM VALUED, RESPECTED AND BELONG IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT
10:56:18AM IS NOT THE FEELING YOU GET WHEN YOU GO TO THAT PARK.
10:56:21AM THAT'S NOT THE FEELING YOU GET WHEN YOU PLAY.
10:56:23AM IT'S JUST A FORGOTTEN PART.

10:56:27AM THAT'S IT.
10:56:28AM THANK YOU.
10:56:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:29AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:56:31AM YES, MA'AM.
10:56:38AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:56:41AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE GUEST SPEAKERS AND THE
10:56:45AM PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE CONDUCTED THIS MORNING.
10:56:50AM IT'S INSPIRING.
10:56:51AM HOWEVER, MY NAME IS GERALDINE ROGERS TOMBS.
10:56:55AM THE REASON I AM HERE IS BECAUSE I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10:56:58AM ATTEND THE MEETING LAST WEEK REGARDING FAIR OAKS PARK
10:57:03AM PROJECT.
10:57:04AM THE PURPOSE OF BEING HERE IS BECAUSE THE LEADER, I GUESS,
10:57:11AM THE LEAD PROJECT MANAGER OR WHATEVER IN THE GROUP, THEY JUST
10:57:14AM KIND OF TALKED OR MOVED AROUND FOR OVER AN HOUR BEFORE THEY
10:57:22AM EVEN BEGAN THE MEETING AND AFTER THEY HAD THE MEETING, THEY
10:57:26AM REFUSED TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:57:28AM AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY I'M HERE IS BECAUSE IT WAS NOT
10:57:31AM OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:57:34AM AND I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF ATTITUDES OR
10:57:37AM BEHAVIORS THAT WOULD BE PRESENTED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES.
10:57:41AM AND I FOUND THAT TO BE VERY DISRESPECTFUL BECAUSE WE HAD
10:57:45AM QUESTIONS THAT WE WANTED TO ASK AND THE COMMUNITY, IF IT IS
10:57:49AM A MEETING, THE COMMUNITY SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO

10:57:51AM EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS AND THAT DID NOT OCCUR.
10:57:55AM THAT'S WHY I'M HERE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ALL CAN
10:57:57AM CORRECT THAT, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
10:58:00AM I'M A TAXPAYER.
10:58:01AM I RECEIVED THREE MILLAGE LETTERS THIS WEEK, AND SO WE
10:58:05AM DESERVE THE SAME OPTIONS THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES RECEIVE.
10:58:09AM I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, I ASKED AFTER THE MEETING, HE WANTED
10:58:13AM US TO HAVE ONE-ON-ONE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DIFFERENT
10:58:17AM DEVELOPERS THAT WERE PRESENT.
10:58:20AM HOWEVER, WE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE
10:58:24AM DOING AND HOW IT IMPACTS US AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE IN
10:58:28AM AGREEMENT WITH WHAT'S BEING DONE.
10:58:31AM ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT HE SAID THAT APPROXIMATELY 2,000
10:58:35AM SQUARE FEET WOULD BE UTILIZED FOR THE ATRIUM.
10:58:39AM MY CONCERN, IS THAT A GOOD USE OF THE SPACE?
10:58:42AM IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, A 2,000-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE IS A PRETTY
10:58:47AM LARGE SPACE.
10:58:49AM IS THAT BENEFICIAL?
10:58:49AM CAN THE SPACE BE UTILIZED IN A MORE EFFICIENT WAY FOR THE
10:58:53AM BUILDING?
10:58:54AM THE OTHER CONCERN IS THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE
10:58:58AM TREES THAT WOULD BE PRESENT.
10:59:00AM AND I BELIEVE IN THE GREENSPACE AND THE TREES AND ALL OF
10:59:02AM THAT, BUT WHAT I DO OBJECT TO IS HAVING TREES OVER THE
10:59:08AM SEATING AND THE BENCHES THERE BECAUSE IF YOU GO TO FAIR OAKS

10:59:13AM PARK, YOU'LL SEE BIRD FECES ON THE TABLES AND CHAIRS AND ALL
10:59:20AM THAT AND CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BE EXPOSED TO IT.
10:59:23AM AN ADULT HAS THE COMMON SENSE NOT TO DO THAT.
10:59:25AM MY THIRD QUESTION IS -- I NEED TIME TO EXPRESS MYSELF
10:59:30AM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GIVE US TIME TO DO THAT ON THAT
10:59:32AM PARTICULAR OCCASION.
10:59:34AM MY THIRD CONCERN IS, UNFORTUNATELY, I CAN'T REMEMBER RIGHT
10:59:40AM NOW.
10:59:40AM BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE I SEND YOU AN E-MAIL.
10:59:45AM NO, IT IS NOT FUNNY.
10:59:46AM IT IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN BECAUSE AS TAXPAYERS AND PART OF
10:59:51AM THE COMMUNITY, YOU HAVE A RIGHT, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO RESPECT
10:59:56AM US.
10:59:56AM AND WE WERE DISRESPECTED.
10:59:58AM AND THERE WERE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE OUT THERE AND NOBODY WAS
11:00:01AM ALLOWED TO ASK THE QUESTION.
11:00:03AM WHAT KIND OF MEETING IS THAT?
11:00:05AM WHAT KIND OF MEETING IS THAT?
11:00:07AM AND THIS IS JUST LIKE MS. CLAYTON WAS TALKING ABOUT.
11:00:11AM THINGS ARE BETTER, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE BETTER THAN WHAT IT
11:00:14AM IS.
11:00:15AM YOU NEED TO RESPECT OUR COMMUNITY, AND WE NEED TO BE GIVEN
11:00:20AM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND TO DISCUSS THESE ISSUES WITH
11:00:23AM YOU BECAUSE THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAD THEIR HANDS UP
11:00:26AM AND WANTED TO ASK QUESTIONS, BUT HE SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT

11:00:29AM DOING THAT TODAY.
11:00:30AM WELL, WHAT IS IT?
11:00:31AM WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?
11:00:32AM YOU ALL NEED TO FOLLOW UP AND FIGURE IT OUT.
11:00:37AM AS A TAX-PAYING CITIZEN, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF
11:00:42AM THE COMMUNITY AND I WANT MY VOICE TO BE HEARD, AND EVERYBODY
11:00:46AM HAS A RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD.
11:00:48AM I JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THE GOOD THINGS YOU'RE
11:00:53AM DOING.
11:00:53AM THANK YOU.
11:00:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:55AM YES, SIR.
11:00:55AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:00:57AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:00:58AM MY NAME IS NOEL JOHNSON.
11:01:00AM QUITE APPROPRIATE, I AGREE WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER.
11:01:05AM THE REASON I AM HERE THIS MORNING IS TO COMMENT ON THE TAX
11:01:11AM INCREASE ON THE PROPERTY.
11:01:13AM I'VE HEARD SO MANY THINGS THAT'S RELEVANT.
11:01:18AM AND THERE'S SO MUCH TIME, REALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS.
11:01:22AM I LIKE SOLUTIONS.
11:01:24AM JUST AS THE PREVIOUS COUNCILMAN SAID, THE POLICEMAN'S JOB,
11:01:28AM THEY ARE RIGHT ON IT.
11:01:29AM YOU COME HERE, YOU HAVE TO HEAR SO MUCH.
11:01:31AM ALSO, YOU ASK FOR IT.

11:01:34AM YOU WANT IT TO BE CITY COUNCIL PERSONS.
11:01:36AM I CHOSE TO BUY PROPERTY HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, IN THE
11:01:40AM CITY OF TAMPA, A VETERAN, USING VETERAN RESOURCES, MOVED
11:01:45AM INTO BELMONT HEIGHTS, LOW ECONOMIC CLASS AND POSSIBLY AS YOU
11:01:54AM ALL KNOW HAS SOME TYPE OF CRIMINAL ELEMENT TO IT AND THINGS
11:01:58AM OF SORT.
11:01:58AM NOW, WITH ALL THAT SAID, THE REASON WHY I'M HERE IS BECAUSE
11:02:02AM YOU'RE ASKING, I THINK IT'S ITEM 92 OR 93 ON YOUR AGENDA.
11:02:09AM HERE IT SAYS YOU'RE ASKING FOR THIS INCREASE IS DUE TO A
11:02:12AM CHANGE IN THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE PROPERTY SUCH AS NEW
11:02:16AM DEVELOPMENT OR THE IDENTIFICATION OF NEW OR NOT PREVIOUSLY
11:02:20AM IDENTIFIED IMPERVIOUS AREA, AND IT WAS EMPTY LOT.
11:02:25AM AND IN LISTENING TO SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TALK ABOUT
11:02:29AM DEVELOPMENT AND EVEN ATTENDING SOME OF THE CRAs,
11:02:32AM UNDERSTANDING WHAT COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT IS AND
11:02:35AM COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREAS, AND IN THIS AREA WHERE I
11:02:40AM PURCHASED MY HOME, IT IS ADJACENT TO AN AUTOMOTIVE SHOP THAT
11:02:44AM WAS BUILT IN THE 1940s.
11:02:46AM WHEN I CAME HERE, I'M HOPING TO LIVE IN AN AREA THAT'S FREE
11:02:51AM OF ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARDS.
11:02:53AM I HAVE PICTURES HERE AND THE REASON I'M HERE THAT SOMEONE
11:02:57AM CAN GUIDE ME TO SOMEONE THAT CAN ASSIST ME WITH IMPROVING
11:03:02AM THIS PROPERTY.
11:03:03AM I DON'T MIND PAYING THE TAX INCREASE --
11:03:06AM >> IF I MAY --

11:03:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 92 IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
11:03:10AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
11:03:12AM HE IS ADDRESSING A TOPIC THAT IS SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC
11:03:16AM HEARING, AND THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO TALK
11:03:19AM ABOUT THIS WHEN THAT AGENDA ITEM --
11:03:23AM >> 9:30 OR 10.
11:03:25AM MY PARKING GOING TO GIVE UP AT 11:38.
11:03:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU CAN SPEAK NOW.
11:03:31AM YOU'RE FINE.
11:03:32AM WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
11:03:33AM YOU'RE GOOD.
11:03:36AM >> MAY I FINISH, CITY ATTORNEY?
11:03:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:03:39AM GO AHEAD.
11:03:40AM >> WHAT I'M ASKING, I HAVE PICTURES HERE, AND WHAT I'M
11:03:45AM ASKING FOR IS WHO YOU ALL CAN DIRECT ME TO IN CONSIDERING
11:03:49AM THIS.
11:03:49AM AND WHEN TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND HOPEFULLY AS WE MOVE
11:03:52AM FORWARD, MY HOME IS ALREADY THERE.
11:03:54AM IT'S NOT ADVERSARIAL THING.
11:03:57AM I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE I'M SURE IN OTHER
11:04:00AM COMMUNITIES A HOME WOULD NOT BE BUILT NEXT TO AN AUTOMOTIVE
11:04:06AM SHOP THAT SPILLS WASTE OVER INTO MY BACKYARD.
11:04:09AM THE PICTURE, YOU CAN'T SEE HERE, IT HAS TWO LIKE CONCRETE --
11:04:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUT IT ON THE OVERHEAD.

11:04:15AM LAY IT DOWN AND WE'LL SEE IT.
11:04:24AM >> HELP ME WITH IT, SOMEBODY.
11:04:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WILL ACTIVATE.
11:04:28AM T AND I WILL TURN IT ON.
11:04:35AM >> THAT'S THE BIGGEST REASON THAT BROUGHT ME HERE.
11:04:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE TURN ON THE OVERHEAD?
11:04:45AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE
11:04:48AM EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS UNTIL THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE OPENED,
11:04:50AM THE COMMENTS THAT ARE BEING MADE NOW WON'T BECOME PART OF
11:04:53AM THE RECORD.
11:04:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FINE.
11:04:55AM HE'S PAID FOR PARKING NOW AND HERE NOW.
11:04:57AM >> WHEN CAN I COME BACK?
11:05:00AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I THINK WE NEED TO ESTIMATE WHEN WE'LL GET
11:05:02AM TO THE HEARINGS.
11:05:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE IS THE IMAGE.
11:05:05AM AND THIS IS YOUR PROPERTY --
11:05:08AM >> THIS IS MY PROPERTY.
11:05:10AM AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPERS AND AS WE MOVE
11:05:13AM FORWARD, IF YOU'RE ASKING DEVELOPERS TO COME IN, I
11:05:16AM UNDERSTAND IT IS A GIVE AND TAKE WITH DEVELOPERS.
11:05:19AM AND IN DEVELOPING THIS LAND, WHAT HAPPENED -- SEE ALL THAT
11:05:24AM WATER COMING OUT OF THE WALL.
11:05:26AM WENT OVER AND SPOKE TO THE RENTER, THEY HAVE NO UNDERGROUND
11:05:29AM DRAINAGE THERE AND POTENTIALLY, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

11:05:32AM INCREASING MY TAXES, THE TREE -- AND I ASKED, THE YOUNG MAN
11:05:37AM SAID THE TREE, THAT'S THE ONE THEY SHOULD HAVE CUT DOWN TO
11:05:40AM ALLOW THE WATER TO DRAIN BACK IN THE BACK ALLEY THERE TO
11:05:43AM HELP WITH THE STORM DRAIN RUNOFF.
11:05:46AM AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
11:05:48AM I'M ASKING WHAT CAN WE DO?
11:05:50AM WHO DO I NEED TO SPEAK TO TRY TO RECTIFY THIS PROBLEM?
11:05:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO CAN THIS GENTLEMAN SPEAK WITH?
11:05:57AM CHIEF BENNETT IS USUALLY HERE AND WILL CONNECT.
11:06:01AM IS THERE SOMEBODY HERE TO HELP THE GENTLEMAN?
11:06:04AM WE HAVE THE ATTORNEY HERE.
11:06:10AM CAN YOU ASSIST HIM?
11:06:12AM >> I DON'T MIND PAYING THE EXTRA MONEY.
11:06:13AM I'M A VETERAN ON LIMITED INCOME AND USED RESOURCES TO GET
11:06:18AM THIS PROPERTY.
11:06:18AM I FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE PRIOR TO ME MOVING IN
11:06:22AM HERE.
11:06:22AM CITY CODE, EPA, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS.
11:06:27AM LIKE, AGAIN, I DON'T BELIEVE A HOME WOULD HAVE BEEN BUILT IN
11:06:30AM OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THIS CITY, LET ALONE ANY OF YOURS, I'M
11:06:34AM SURE IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE CITY.
11:06:37AM I DON'T MEAN THAT IN AN OFFENSIVE MANNER.
11:06:39AM JUST IN A MANNER TO HELP WHEN WE THINK OF REDEVELOPMENT OF
11:06:43AM TAMPA, THINK ABOUT ACKNOWLEDGING OUR COMMUNITIES AND I'D
11:06:47AM JUST LIKE YOU ALL TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

11:06:50AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
11:06:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:06:51AM THE ATTORNEY IS RIGHT HERE AND SHE WILL BE ABLE TO ASSIST
11:06:53AM YOU, SIR.
11:06:55AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:06:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:06:57AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:07:01AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:07:01AM KELLA McCASKILL.
11:07:03AM I ACTUALLY AGREED WITH THE SPEAKER PRIOR REGARDING THE FAIR
11:07:08AM OAKS MEETING.
11:07:09AM I RECEIVED DOZENS OF CALLS FROM THE SENIORS THAT INITIATED
11:07:12AM THE REQUEST.
11:07:12AM THEY FOUGHT FOR YEARS FOR THE PARK AND THE MANNER OF
11:07:15AM DISRESPECT THEY CONVEYED TO ME, I WASN'T PRESENT BUT THEY
11:07:20AM SHARED WITH ME AND SHARE NEXT WEEK I GUESS AT THE CRA.
11:07:23AM I AM HERE THIS MORNING TO ADDRESS THE TAX INCREASE.
11:07:25AM I'LL START OUT SAYING WE CANNOT APPROACH THIS LIKE IT IS
11:07:28AM MONOPOLY MONEY.
11:07:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MILLAGE
11:07:31AM INCREASE?
11:07:32AM >> MILLAGE INCREASE.
11:07:33AM I FEEL LIKE BEFORE WE REALLY NEED TO APPROACH THAT BEING
11:07:36AM VERY CAREFUL REGARDING THOSE DOLLARS.
11:07:38AM BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND WHAT HAS

11:07:41AM NOT BEEN PROVIDED, I THINK WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION
11:07:44AM YET TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
11:07:46AM BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A TUNE OF $1 MILLION PROPERTY
11:07:48AM TAX INCREASE, WE'RE ENTITLED TO AN ACTUAL ACCOUNT OF HOW THE
11:07:53AM MONEY WILL BE SPENT, AN ACTUAL ACCOUNT OF HOW IT WILL BE
11:07:57AM SPENT.
11:07:58AM SOME DISCREPANCIES IN TERMS OF WHAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AND
11:08:01AM WHAT HAS NOT.
11:08:02AM BEFORE YOU MAKE THE DECISION I HOPE YOU TREAT IT AS SUCH.
11:08:05AM MAKE SURE IT IS ACCOUNTABLE, TRANSPARENT AND THEY GIVE YOU
11:08:08AM EVERYTHING YOU SHOULD BEFORE MAKING A DECISION.
11:08:10AM MY MAIN REASON FOR BEING HERE IS I ALSO SAW $5,900,000
11:08:14AM PROPOSED FOR THE BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET.
11:08:15AM I DON'T SPEND MUCH TIME IN THE BUILDING BUT MANY OF US ARE
11:08:18AM HERE DAY IN, DAY OUT, WEEK AFTER WEEK.
11:08:21AM WE'RE HERE ADVOCATING FOR OUR COMMUNITIES, ET CETERA.
11:08:24AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE $500,000 IMPROVEMENT BE USED IN
11:08:29AM THIS BUILDING, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE AS A CITIZEN, I COME
11:08:32AM HERE LIKE MANY OF YOU, I COME DOWN HERE ALL THE TIME
11:08:35AM ADVOCATING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR IMPROVEMENT IN THE
11:08:38AM COMMUNITY.
11:08:38AM AND I WAS BLOWN AWAY IN DISAPPOINTMENT WHEN I RECENTLY FOUND
11:08:43AM OUT THAT AS WE EXIT, I'M NOT EVEN SURE YOU KNOW THIS BUT AS
11:08:46AM WE EXIT ON THE KENNEDY SIDE GOING AND COMING, I FOUND OUT
11:08:50AM THAT THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING DOESN'T HAVE SURVEILLANCE

11:08:54AM CAMERAS IN THE IMMEDIATE PARKING AREA.
11:08:58AM ANY GIVEN DAY WHEN WE COME IN HERE AND EXIT, SOME AFTER
11:09:04AM MIDNIGHT, THERE'S NO CAMERA.
11:09:06AM GOD FORBID I COME TO THIS BUILDING OR EXIT THE BUILDING AND
11:09:09AM ACCUSED OF A FAKE CRIME OR, WORSE, I'M ASSAULTED.
11:09:14AM DID YOU KNOW THERE'S NO CAMERA THAT COULD RECORD THAT
11:09:18AM INCIDENT?
11:09:18AM SO THERE'S NO RECORD OF THE FAKE CRIME OR NO RECORD OF
11:09:24AM WHATEVER, THE BATTERY OR ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS TO YOU AS YOU
11:09:26AM EXIT OR ENTER THIS BUILDING, NOT ONE CAMERA CAN CAPTURE THAT
11:09:29AM INFORMATION.
11:09:30AM THE ONE TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT POTENTIALLY COULD ONLY RETAINS
11:09:34AM THE INFORMATION FOR 30 DAYS, BUT, REMEMBER, IT'S A TRAFFIC
11:09:38AM CAMERA.
11:09:38AM SPEND THAT $500,000 TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SAFE.
11:09:41AM THE PEOPLE THAT COME IN THIS BUILDING ADVOCATING, THEY PAY
11:09:45AM TAXES, THIS BUILDING SHOULD BE SAFE.
11:09:47AM NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO EXIT OR ENTER THIS BUILDING AND NOT BE
11:09:51AM SAFE.
11:09:51AM THE OTHER THING IS, WE NEED TO KNOW AT ALL TIMES WHO IS IN
11:09:54AM THIS BUILDING, AT THE POLITICAL CONTENTIOUSNESS WE'VE SEEN,
11:09:59AM WE'RE NOT ALWAYS HERE IN AGREEMENT.
11:10:00AM THINGS WILL HAPPEN.
11:10:01AM CONVERSATIONS WILL HAPPEN.
11:10:03AM AS WE SEE MENTAL ILLNESS AND HOMELESSNESS ARISE, WHEN WE

11:10:07AM EXIT, GOOD POSSIBILITY SOMETHING COULD HAPPEN.
11:10:09AM I SUBMIT TO YOU WE SHOULD BE SAFE.
11:10:11AM LEAVE THAT BUILDING ALONE AND MAKE THIS ONE SAFE.
11:10:14AM THANK YOU.
11:10:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:15AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:10:16AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
11:10:18AM ACTIVATE THE OVERHEAD.
11:10:19AM YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW.
11:10:20AM YES, MA'AM.
11:10:29AM >> HI.
11:10:30AM MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
11:10:32AM I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON ITEM
11:10:35AM NUMBER 5.
11:10:36AM THE RELATED GROUP ASSURES US THAT THEY WANT TO BE GOOD
11:10:39AM COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND THAT THEY ARE CONSCIENTIOUS
11:10:42AM DEVELOPERS AND RESPECT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THEY BUILD IN.
11:10:44AM I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS OF THE
11:10:46AM RITZ-CARLTON PROJECT ON BAYSHORE AND THIS IS WHAT I FOUND.
11:10:49AM I WENT OUT THERE AT THE END OF JUNE AND MET WITH JILL
11:10:53AM CORCORAN, AND THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE OF THE SORT OF THING THAT
11:10:56AM SHE SAYS TRASH FROM THIS BUILDING FLIES INTO THE BAY ON A
11:11:00AM REGULAR BASIS.
11:11:01AM I SAW THAT MYSELF WHEN I WAS THERE.
11:11:04AM THIS IS THE BUILDING, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW TALL IT IS.

11:11:12AM AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM IT IS THE TOWN HOUSES WHERE JILL
11:11:15AM LIVES WHERE THIS TREE IS.
11:11:17AM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS,
11:11:23AM IT'S FLYING ALL THE WAY ACROSS HERE.
11:11:25AM SOME KIND OF LIQUID IS SPLATTERING ON EVERYTHING.
11:11:27AM THESE ARE THE CARS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TOWN HOUSES THAT
11:11:30AM HAVE LIQUID, SOMETHING SPLATTERING ALL OVER THEM.
11:11:33AM HERE IS MORE OF THE CAR.
11:11:34AM ALSO SPLATTERING ON THE BUILDING ITSELF.
11:11:37AM YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH HERE.
11:11:39AM THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE SPLATTERS, WHAT YOU
11:11:44AM MIGHT ALSO BE ABLE TO SEE IS THERE IS A ROOF OVER THE DOORS
11:11:47AM BACK HERE.
11:11:48AM A PIECE OF PLYWOOD FLEW OFF THAT GIANT BUILDING NEXT DOOR,
11:11:55AM SHEARED THE ROOF OFF AND THEN FELL INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD.
11:11:58AM SOMEBODY COULD HAVE BEEN KILLED.
11:11:59AM THE NEIGHBORS HAVE HAD A BIG PROBLEM WITH TRASH.
11:12:02AM THE BUILDING IS SUPPOSED TO BE ENCLOSED SO THAT STUFF CAN'T
11:12:05AM FLY OFF OF IT AND IT WAS HAPPENING ANYWAY.
11:12:08AM SO RELATED TOLD THE NEIGHBORS THAT THEY WOULD PICK UP THEIR
11:12:11AM TRASH EVERY DAY.
11:12:13AM JILL SHOWED ME, THESE ARE JUST FIVE BAGS OF THE TRASH THAT
11:12:16AM JILL HERSELF PICKED UP THAT THEY DIDN'T PICK UP.
11:12:19AM THIS IS THE SORT OF THING THAT SHE'S SHOWING ME WHAT'S IN
11:12:22AM THE BAGS.

11:12:23AM AND I WAS THERE AT THE END OF THE DAY ON A SUNDAY, AND THEY
11:12:25AM HAD ALREADY SUPPOSEDLY PICKED UP EVERYTHING.
11:12:28AM JUST BEING THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, I FOUND THIS KIND OF
11:12:32AM TRASH AROUND THERE.
11:12:33AM I KNOW THAT ABBYE FEELEY HAS TALKED TO THEM ABOUT IT.
11:12:36AM I THINK SHE READ THEM THE RIOT ACT.
11:12:38AM IT MIGHT BE BETTER NOW.
11:12:39AM THIS IS THE SORT OF THING THE NEIGHBORS ARE DEALING WITH ALL
11:12:41AM THE TIME.
11:12:43AM JILL ALSO REFERENCED THE TREES ON ISABELLA.
11:12:46AM THOSE ARE NOT ON RELATED'S PROPERTY.
11:12:49AM DON'T BELONG TO RELATED.
11:12:51AM RELATED IS NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK THEIR VEHICLES ON THEM BUT
11:12:53AM THEY DO.
11:12:54AM YOU CAN SEE THESE ROOTS HAVE BEEN DAMAGED IN EVERY ONE OF
11:12:57AM THESE PLACES.
11:12:58AM THESE ARE LIVE OAKS SLIGHTLY LESS THAN GRAND SIZE, NOT ON
11:13:03AM RELATED PROPERTY BUT VEHICLES PARK ON THEM AND THEY DAMAGE
11:13:06AM THE ROOTS OF THE TREE.
11:13:07AM THIS IS THE NAIL GUN, THE TYPE OF DEBRIS.
11:13:10AM THE TREE, THEY ALREADY PUT A REGULAR CURB THERE, THAT WAS
11:13:13AM THERE WHEN I WENT IN JUNE AND SAID, OH, THEY WEREN'T
11:13:16AM SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.
11:13:18AM THEY DID IT AND MAY HAVE DAMAGED THE TREE.
11:13:20AM WELL, WE'LL PULL IT UP AND DO THE FLOATING CURB.

11:13:23AM WELL, DID THIS DO ANY DAMAGE?
11:13:25AM I ALSO WANT TO SAY REAL QUICK IN THE ORIGINAL REZONING THEY
11:13:28AM SAID THEY WOULD SAVE TWO GRAND OAKS AND BULLDOZED EVERY
11:13:31AM OTHER OAK THAT WAS 32.
11:13:33AM SECOND REZONING THEY SAID WE ONLY WANT TO SAVE ONE AND THEY
11:13:36AM BULLDOZED 20 MORE OAKS.
11:13:38AM ON THAT ENTIRE PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE'S ONE GRAND OAK AND
11:13:42AM THAT'S IT.
11:13:42AM 51 LARGE HEALTHY OAKS WERE BULLDOZED BY RELATED ON THAT
11:13:46AM PROPERTY.
11:13:47AM THANK YOU.
11:13:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:48AM YES, SIR.
11:13:48AM NEXT SPEAKER.
11:13:51AM >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
11:13:52AM BOB WHITMORE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE.
11:13:55AM THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, LARGE INDIVIDUAL TREES WITH UNIQUE
11:14:00AM VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY ARE KNOWN AS HERITAGE TREES.
11:14:02AM THE SPECTACULAR GRAND OAK YOU WILL BE DISCUSSING IN COUNCIL
11:14:05AM TODAY STANDING AT BAYSHORE AND SANTIAGO IS JUST SUCH A TREE.
11:14:09AM HERITAGE TREE THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN PUT IN JEOPARDY
11:14:12AM BUT NOW STANDS ONCE AGAIN THREATENED.
11:14:14AM THE RITZ-CARLTON LAND GRAB REPRESENTS ONE OF THE GREATEST
11:14:18AM ECOLOGICAL HEISTS EVER PULLED OFF IN THIS CITY AND STANDS AS
11:14:22AM A SHAMEFUL EXAMPLE OF THE ABILITY OF DEVELOPERS TO CONVINCE

11:14:26AM CITY LEADERSHIP TO PUT A COMPANY'S PROFITS BEFORE THE GOOD
11:14:29AM OF THE PEOPLE.
11:14:29AM IT STARTED WITH THE REZONE OF A WAIVER.
11:14:32AM A WAIVER THAT WOULD ALLOW RELATED TO REMOVE 80% OF THE TREES
11:14:35AM ON THIS PROPERTY, INSTEAD OF THE ALREADY GUT-WRENCHING 50%.
11:14:39AM AS A RESULT, AS CAROLYN SAID, 52 HEALTHY MEDIUM TO LARGE
11:14:43AM TYPE ONE TREES, 30 OF THEM LIVE OAKS WERE BULLDOZED INTO
11:14:48AM OBLIVION, INCLUDING A GRAND TREE THIS DEVELOPER HAD SAID
11:14:52AM WOULD ORIGINALLY BE RETAINED.
11:14:53AM BUT IT DID NOT THERE.
11:14:55AM CAME BACK AND ASKED FOR AND RECEIVED PERMISSION TO REMOVE
11:14:59AM MORE TREES.
11:15:00AM WHAT WAS THE FINAL BUTCHER'S BILL, 96% OF THE TREES WERE
11:15:03AM WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH, 4% SHORT OF A TOTAL CLEAR
11:15:07AM CUT.
11:15:07AM WHAT WAS LEFT STANDING, TWO TREES.
11:15:11AM A CABBAGE PALM WHICH, FRANKLY, I HAVEN'T LOOKED TO SEE IF IT
11:15:14AM IS STILL THERE AND THE TREE YOU WILL BE DISCUSSING TODAY IN
11:15:17AM ITEM 5.
11:15:18AM THIS MASSIVE, MAGNIFICENT CITY COOLING HISTORIC HERITAGE
11:15:22AM TREE, A RARE TREE IN THIS WARMING CITY LEFT ONCE AGAIN TO
11:15:26AM FIGHT FOR ITS SURVIVAL, A TREE NO DOUBT DOOMED BY
11:15:31AM CONSTRUCTION IF ONE WOMAN WHO OWNED HALF OF IT HADN'T HAD
11:15:34AM THE COURAGE TO THROW HER BODY IN FRONT OF THE PAVERS.
11:15:37AM ITEM 5 SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF SIDEWALK IS LESS

11:15:42AM LIKELY TO KILL A TREE THAT HAS STOOD IN THIS CITY 200 YEARS
11:15:46AM BEFORE TEDDY ROOSEVELT CAME TO TOWN.
11:15:49AM ITEM 5 STARTS WITH A SIMPLE REQUEST OF RELATED TO CEASE ALL
11:15:56AM CONSTRUCTION AROUND THIS TREE.
11:15:57AM IT IS THEN FOLLOWED BY A LETTER ISSUED FROM THE CHAIR AND
11:16:01AM SPEARHEADED BY YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, WHO PLEDGED TO
11:16:05AM PRESERVE THE CANOPY WAS A KEY PILLAR OF THE PLATFORM WHILE
11:16:08AM CAMPAIGNING FOR YOUR SEAT.
11:16:10AM A LETTER THAT ASKS RELATED TO ABANDON ANY CONSTRUCTION OF
11:16:14AM SIDEWALKS OR CURBS THAT MIGHT IN ANY WAY THREATEN THIS TREE,
11:16:19AM REGARDLESS OF ANY PRIOR AGREEMENTS OR CONCESSIONS.
11:16:23AM NO SIDEWALKS, NO CURBS, JUST CLEAR GROUND AROUND THE SOLE
11:16:28AM SURVIVOR OF A PROJECT THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN SO
11:16:31AM DEVASTATING TO THE CITY'S CANOPY.
11:16:34AM AND IF AN AGREEMENT CANNOT BEGIN HERE TODAY, A MOTION BY
11:16:37AM THIS COUNCIL SHOULD FOLLOW INVOKING THIS CITY'S RIGHT OF
11:16:41AM EMINENT DOMAIN, RECLAIMING THIS PROPERTY IN WHICH THIS TREE
11:16:44AM STANDS, PRESERVING AND PROTECTING THIS VITAL PIECE OF
11:16:48AM HISTORIC INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:16:49AM THIS HERITAGE TREE THAT HAS FALLEN INTO THE HANDS OF MEN
11:16:53AM INCAPABLE OF PRESERVING IT AND SEEING IT ONLY AS SOMETHING
11:16:56AM THAT'S IN THE WAY.
11:16:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:59AM YES, MA'AM, NEXT SPEAKER.

11:17:01AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:17:03AM >> MY NAME IS ALISON DATE.
11:17:05AM I'M HERE ABOUT THE TREE, TOO.
11:17:09AM I WAS REALLY APPALLED ABOUT THE SITUATION THAT EXISTS ABOUT
11:17:18AM THIS TREE AND ALL OF THE THINGS YOU'VE JUST HEARD.
11:17:24AM BECAUSE I THREE YEARS AGO IT WAS ONE OF MY FIRST TREE
11:17:31AM ACTIVITIES I DID BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THAT
11:17:34AM COMMUNITY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOSS OF THE TREES, AND IT
11:17:39AM WAS CALLED BAY OAKS FOR A REASON, BECAUSE THERE WERE ALL
11:17:42AM THESE OAKS.
11:17:42AM SO MYSELF AND ANOTHER PERSON WENT AND MEASURED ALL THE
11:17:46AM TREES, 30 OF THEM, AND WE TOOK PICTURES OF THEM, AND WE
11:17:50AM LOOKED AT THEM AND LOOKED AT THE DESIGN, AND WE SAID, YOU
11:17:55AM COULD PROBABLY SAVE THESE SEVEN TREES.
11:17:58AM COULD YOU CONSIDER THAT?
11:18:00AM AND THAT WAS MY FIRST EXPERIENCE WITH RELATED.
11:18:03AM THEY SAID, WELL, NO, WE CAN'T.
11:18:05AM AND IT ENDED UP THAT THEY GOT -- THEY WERE GIVEN THE
11:18:12AM REZONING TO, AND AS YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ABLE TO GET RID OF
11:18:17AM ALL BUT TWO TREES.
11:18:20AM THEY SAVED TWO TREES.
11:18:22AM AND THEN SOMETHING HAPPENED AFTER THAT, WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW
11:18:26AM ABOUT, BUT THEY REZONED IT WHEN THEY GOT THEIR SECOND --
11:18:31AM WHEN THEY BOUGHT SOME MORE LAND.
11:18:33AM AND IN THAT SECOND REZONING, THEY WERE ABLE TO GET RID OF

11:18:38AM ONE MORE OF THOSE GRAND OAK TREES.
11:18:40AM AND NOW I LEARNED JUST THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THIS ONE
11:18:44AM BEAUTIFUL TREE THAT'S LEFT.
11:18:46AM IT'S REALLY A MAGNIFICENT TREE, AND IT WAS ONE OF THE ONES
11:18:49AM WE WANTED TO SAVE, THAT THIS DEVELOPER WHO HAS PLENTY OF
11:18:56AM SPACE, AND THEIR SITE PLAN WENT BEFORE DEVELOPMENT TO LOOK
11:19:02AM AT WHY DIDN'T THEY RECOGNIZE THAT IN WHATEVER THEY NEEDED TO
11:19:06AM DO TO MOVE THE STREET OR THE SIDEWALK.
11:19:08AM IT WAS THERE BEFORE.
11:19:10AM SO SOMETHING CHANGED THAT NOW THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM FOR
11:19:13AM IT.
11:19:14AM WHY?
11:19:14AM IT JUST PUZZLES ME.
11:19:17AM AND WHEN I KEEP HEARING FROM PEOPLE IN THE GOVERNMENT, OH,
11:19:21AM YES, WE REALLY CARE ABOUT OUR TREES AND THEN SOMETHING LIKE
11:19:24AM THIS HAPPENS, IT MAKES ME QUESTION IT.
11:19:27AM IT ALSO MAKES ME QUESTION THE DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY SAY THEY
11:19:31AM ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT THINGS AND THEN THEY DO SOMETHING
11:19:34AM LIKE THIS.
11:19:36AM BUT THIS IDEA OF HAVING ANOTHER -- BEING ABLE TO DO TWO OF
11:19:43AM THESE REZONINGS, WHEN THAT HAPPENS, WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE
11:19:49AM WASN'T THERE, SO THEY END UP BEING ABLE TO NOT ONLY GET RID
11:19:53AM OF THOSE TREES BUT ALSO ONE MORE.
11:19:55AM AND THE SAME THING HAPPENED IN ANOTHER INCIDENT THAT WAS
11:20:01AM OVER AT THE TOWERS WITH THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TREES.

11:20:03AM THEY WERE GIVEN A HUNDRED PERCENT CLEARANCE TO GET RID OF
11:20:07AM THE TREES, INCLUDING THE FIVE RIGHT-OF-WAY TREES ON PARKER
11:20:13AM THERE.
11:20:15AM WE NEED THOSE TREES.
11:20:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HELP IN SAVING THEM.
11:20:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:20:21AM YES, MA'AM.
11:20:22AM NEXT SPEAKER.
11:20:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
11:20:27AM PAULA MECKLEY.
11:20:28AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 5 AS WELL.
11:20:31AM PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE PROTECTION OF THIS GRAND
11:20:34AM TREE, THE ONE ON SANTIAGO.
11:20:36AM A SIDEWALK IS NOT CURRENTLY THERE AND CAN BE PLACED ON THE
11:20:39AM OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
11:20:42AM IT DOES NOT PUT SOMEBODY OUT TOO FAR TO SWITCH TO THE OTHER
11:20:46AM SIDE OF THE STREET OR GO AROUND THE CORNER OF BAY TO BAY
11:20:50AM WHICH IS WHERE THE CROSSWALK IS TO GO ACROSS BAYSHORE
11:20:53AM ANYWAY.
11:20:53AM FOR SAFETY REASONS, YOU WANT TO PUT PEOPLE TO THE CROSSWALKS
11:20:56AM ANYWAY, RIGHT?
11:20:57AM WE'VE LOST SO MANY OAK TREES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE
11:21:04AM LOSS OF A GRAND TREE BEING REPLACED BY OTHER SPECIES JUST
11:21:08AM DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME BENEFITS.
11:21:10AM OAKS SUPPORT MORE LIFE THAN ANY OTHER NATIVE TREE.

11:21:13AM THE TREE'S CANOPIES AND ROOT SYSTEMS ARE IMPORTANT TO WATER
11:21:19AM FILTRATION, HELPING RAIN PERCOLATE INSTEAD OF RUNNING OFF
11:21:22AM AND PURIFIES ALL THAT WATER IN THE PROCESS.
11:21:24AM OAK TREES ALSO SEQUESTER CARBON AND PROVIDE MUCH-NEEDED
11:21:30AM SHADE.
11:21:30AM WHEN GROWN IN THE PROPER CONDITIONS, THE TREES CAN SURVIVE
11:21:34AM FOR CENTURIES AS THIS ONE ALREADY HAS.
11:21:37AM THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS LOST SO MANY TREES IN THIS PROJECT.
11:21:41AM IT IS NOT AN OUTRAGEOUS REQUEST TO ASK THAT THIS ONE BE
11:21:45AM PROTECTED.
11:21:48AM DO NOT PUT A SIDEWALK AROUND THE TREE.
11:21:51AM A LIVE OAK CAN THRIVE FOR DECADES PROVIDING SHADE, BEAUTY,
11:21:58AM AESTHETICS AND VALUE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:22:00AM WE'RE ASKING FOR A SOLUTION TO PROTECT THIS TREE AND PLEASE
11:22:03AM WAIVE THE SIDEWALK REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE ALREADY APPROVED
11:22:07AM FOR THIS TREE.
11:22:07AM THANK YOU.
11:22:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:22:09AM YES, MA'AM.
11:22:09AM NEXT SPEAKER.
11:22:13AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:22:14AM MY NAME IS PAULA PERRY.
11:22:15AM I'M ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 5.
11:22:18AM REGARDING THE POTENTIAL HAZARD TO THE PROPERTY AND A GRAND
11:22:24AM OAK NORTH SIDE OF SANTIAGO THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE RELATED

11:22:29AM PROJECT, THAT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY NOT PART OF
11:22:33AM THEIR PROJECT.
11:22:34AM AND SANTIAGO BELONGS TO TAMPA.
11:22:37AM BELONGS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
11:22:39AM AND WHILE THEY CLAIM THEY WANT TO IMPROVE IT, THE LIBERTIES
11:22:43AM THAT THEY ARE TAKING EXCEED THEIR RIGHTS, I BELIEVE THAT.
11:22:49AM IN OCTOBER OF 2020, BECAUSE I REALIZE THIS PROJECT WAS
11:22:52AM APPROVED BEFORE SEVERAL OF YOU WERE SERVING ON CITY COUNCIL,
11:22:55AM REZ 2038 WAS APPROVED DESPITE INCONSISTENCIES WITH SOME OF
11:23:01AM THE CITY STAFF FINDINGS AND NUMEROUS WAIVERS WHICH INCLUDED
11:23:05AM REDUCTION OF THE REQUIRED PERCENTAGE OF TREES -- FROM 50% TO
11:23:09AM 20.
11:23:10AM SO RIGHT OFF THE BAT THEY WANTED TO KNOCK OUT 80% OF THE
11:23:13AM TREES.
11:23:14AM EVEN THOUGH THE ARCHITECT, RELATED'S ARCHITECT AND IF YOU
11:23:19AM WATCH THE VIDEO YOU CAN FIND IT.
11:23:21AM I WATCHED THEM BOTH.
11:23:22AM 4252 STATED WE WERE LOOKING TO CREATE A GREEN ENCLAVE,
11:23:27AM BEAUTIFUL MATURE OAK TREES AND THE POSSIBILITY IT GAVE TO US
11:23:31AM CREATE A GREEN ENVIRONMENT IS WHAT WE WERE SEEKING.
11:23:34AM IT KEPT THE OPEN SPACE AND THEN HE CONTINUES TO DISCUSS THE
11:23:38AM DESIGN AT 5359.
11:23:42AM ENOUGH ROOM FOR THE BRANCHES OF THE OAKS ALONG SANTIAGO.
11:23:45AM SO THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO KEEP WHAT CITY COUNCIL -- CITY
11:23:51AM COUNCIL WAS TO KEEP THE TREES.

11:23:53AM THEN THEY CAME BACK SEPTEMBER 8 OF '22 WITH ADDITIONAL
11:23:57AM WAIVERS, INCLUDING TWO WAIVERS FOR TREES TO REDUCE THE TREE
11:24:02AM CANOPY TO 4%, BUT THAT DID NOT INCLUDE A GRAND OAK 33 INCHES
11:24:09AM THAT THEY WERE TAKING OUT.
11:24:10AM SO THE POINT IS THAT THEY ARE INTENDING TO USE THIS PROPERTY
11:24:13AM TO PROMOTE IT, TO SELL IT TO RESIDENTS, TO SELL IT TO THE
11:24:18AM NEIGHBORS.
11:24:18AM THEY HAVE NOT DONE THAT.
11:24:20AM THEY ARE NOT KEEPING THEIR WORD.
11:24:21AM THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FOLLOWING THE RULES AND
11:24:23AM KEEPING YOUR WORD.
11:24:24AM PEOPLE BREAK THEIR WORD, THEIR BOND, YOU DON'T TRUST THEM.
11:24:29AM THIS IS ABOUT FOLLOWING THE RULES.
11:24:30AM IS IT A REQUIREMENT OF CITY COUNCIL THAT WE HAVE THE
11:24:32AM SIDEWALK?
11:24:32AM NO.
11:24:33AM CITY COUNCIL DID NOT REQUIRE A SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF
11:24:37AM IT.
11:24:37AM THIS WAS PART OF RELATED'S PLAN AND TYLER HUDSON STATES AT
11:24:43AM 351 IN THE SECOND HEARING, THE BUFFERING WAIVER, REDUCTION
11:24:46AM OF 15-FOOT SETBACKS TO 7 FEET.
11:24:48AM IF RELATED COMPLIED WITH THE FULL 15-FOOT SETBACK WAIVER IT
11:24:52AM WOULD SEVERELY INTERRUPT WHAT WE, RELATED, ARE TRYING TO DO
11:24:55AM WITH SANTIAGO STREET.
11:24:56AM I IMPLORE YOU TO RECLAIM OUR STREET.

11:25:00AM THANK YOU.
11:25:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:25:02AM YES, MA'AM.
11:25:04AM NEXT SPEAKER.
11:25:05AM >> HELLO.
11:25:06AM MY NAME IS TINA LEMON.
11:25:08AM I'M GOING TO PLACE MY PHONE DOWN HERE.
11:25:10AM RESIDENT IN DISTRICT 2.
11:25:14AM I PLACED SO MANY PHONE CALLS TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, MAYOR'S
11:25:19AM OFFICE, TPD, ANIMAL CONTROL.
11:25:22AM SPOKEN TO TONYA.
11:25:23AM THE CITY DID COME OUT IN FEBRUARY, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND
11:25:28AM CLEANED UP THIS PERSON'S PROPERTY NEXT DOOR TO ME.
11:25:32AM THREE DUMP TRUCKS.
11:25:33AM THREE DUMP TRUCKS.
11:25:34AM MARCH 31st IT STARTED AGAIN.
11:25:37AM FECES IN CUPS, EXCESSIVE OVERGROWTH, TARPS ON A SIX-FOOT
11:25:42AM CHAIN-LINK FENCE.
11:25:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT STREET IS THIS ON?
11:25:46AM >> OTERO ROAD.
11:25:47AM WE LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM BUSCH GARDENS.
11:25:50AM WE HAVE A DAY CARE BESIDE US.
11:25:52AM IT'S SO SORE TO THE EYE.
11:25:53AM AND TO DEAL WITH THIS.
11:25:56AM BUSCH GARDENS, PEOPLE COME DOWN OUR STREET TO LOOK AT THE

11:25:59AM ROLLER COASTER.
11:26:00AM CHILDREN WALK ON THE SIDEWALK AND THERE ARE FECES FLYING ON
11:26:03AM THE SIDEWALK.
11:26:06AM TARPS.
11:26:07AM 20-FOOT HEDGES.
11:26:09AM I MEAN, THIS IS A DISGRACE.
11:26:11AM AND FOR OUR CITY TO COME OUT AND CLEAN THIS PROPERTY AND
11:26:14AM IT'S GOING RIGHT BACK TO WHERE IT WAS.
11:26:17AM WHAT CAN WE DO?
11:26:20AM THE CITY HAS BEEN OUT THERE SO MUCH.
11:26:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:26:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DIDN'T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU, AFTER YOU ARE
11:26:28AM FINISHED, I CAN MEET YOU OUTSIDE.
11:26:30AM >> THANK YOU.
11:26:30AM I APPRECIATE.
11:26:31AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:26:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:26:35AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:26:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
11:26:40AM IT WAS REALLY A PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO HEAR
11:26:45AM FROM DR. CLAYTON AS WE EMBARK ON THE 60th ANNIVERSARY ON
11:26:52AM THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON.
11:26:54AM IT IS HAPPENING THIS WEEKEND.
11:26:57AM AND WITHIN THAT 60 YEARS SINCE THE WORK OF SUCH GREAT
11:27:03AM PIONEERS TO NOW, IT SHOULD GIVE US PAUSE TO EXAMINE NOT THE

11:27:10AM PICTURE PERFECT, YOU KNOW, WAY IN WHICH WE SEE THE CITY BUT
11:27:16AM WHAT IMPROVEMENT HAVE WE AS A COMMUNITY AND AS LEADERSHIP
11:27:20AM BROUGHT TO THE CHANGES OF THE PEOPLE'S LIVES?
11:27:22AM 60 YEARS WE'RE MARCHING FOR JUSTICE AND JOBS AND HOUSING AND
11:27:29AM DAY CARE AND OPPORTUNITIES AND YET STILL TODAY WE'RE DEALING
11:27:34AM WITH SOME OF THOSE SAME BARRIERS.
11:27:36AM ONE OF THE BIGGEST BARRIERS AS I CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE IS
11:27:41AM HERE IN EAST TAMPA, IS THAT EVERY TIME WE THINK WE ARE
11:27:44AM GETTING CLOSE TO THE GOALPOST OF DOING SOME MAJOR
11:27:48AM IMPROVEMENT, IT BECOMES A PAUSE.
11:27:53AM FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF BELMONT HEIGHTS, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE
11:27:56AM JUST ASKED FOR SOME OF THE BASICS AND WE HAVE MONEY WITHIN
11:28:00AM THE CRA TO DO A MASSIVE HOUSING REHAB PROGRAM, THAT'S NOT
11:28:07AM ROCKET SCIENCE.
11:28:08AM RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A SENSE OF NOT BELONGING IN OUR OWN
11:28:13AM COMMUNITY.
11:28:13AM WHEN YOU HAVE INSIDE OF YOUR COMMUNITY PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT
11:28:19AM HAND, STILL WORKING JOBS THAT WOULD GIVE THEM, STILL NEED
11:28:25AM SOCIAL ASSISTANCE WITH HOUSES BEING BROUGHT DOWN IN THE
11:28:29AM COMMUNITY THAT'S CLOSE TO HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OR MORE.
11:28:31AM RIGHT WITHIN THE CRA, WE HAVE MONEY TO DO MASSIVE HOME
11:28:38AM REPAIR.
11:28:39AM AND WHAT WE ARE GETTING IS DRIPPINGS OF THE CITY GIVING
11:28:46AM MONIES, SMALL LOANS TO A NONPROFIT TO BUILD SOME REMEDIAL
11:28:51AM HOUSES.

11:28:51AM THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
11:28:56AM WE WANT THOSE WHO COME INSIDE THE COMMUNITY HAVE A SENSE OF
11:28:58AM BELONGING BUT WE DO NOT WANT TO BE PUSHED OUT.
11:29:01AM IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU TO MAKE ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF PROGRESS
11:29:05AM WHEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT YOUR HANDS ON IT.
11:29:08AM WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED AND WON'T HAVE TIME TO SIT THROUGH THE
11:29:12AM WHOLE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE, BUT THAT'S BEEN
11:29:15AM THROUGH THREE OR FOUR ADMINISTRATIONS.
11:29:18AM WE ARE WATCHING THE POLICING OF THE HOUSE GO DOWN, DOWN,
11:29:22AM DOWN, DOWN.
11:29:23AM LOST PARKING, AND IT HAS BEEN REDUCED ALMOST TO RUBBLE.
11:29:29AM SO THAT'S THE PICTURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO GET IN OUR
11:29:31AM COMMUNITY AS TO THE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT BLACK LIFE MEANS
11:29:36AM IN THIS CITY.
11:29:39AM WE ARE HOPING THAT THE CITY FINDS A WAY TO WORK AND THE
11:29:45AM BLAME IS NOT LAID AT THE FOOT STEP OF A COUNCIL PERSON, BUT
11:29:49AM THE CITY, WITH ITS GOOD INTENTIONS AND ITS RESOURCES MOVE TO
11:29:55AM MAKE THIS BLACK COMMUNITY WHOLE ONCE AGAIN.
11:29:58AM THANK YOU.
11:29:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:29:59AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:30:03AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
11:30:10AM >> MY NAME IS MANAF IRAG.
11:30:14AM THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRACTICE ONE OF
11:30:16AM THE SIGNIFICANT RIGHTS FOR US OVER HERE AS AN IMMIGRANT.

11:30:19AM I'M A BUSINESS OWNER OF A BUSINESS BEING SERVED A NUISANCE
11:30:29AM FEW YEARS AGO.
11:30:30AM THEY CLAIM ACTIVITIES ON THE PROPERTY.
11:30:32AM THE REASON WHY I'M COMING OVER HERE, BECAUSE I TOLD MY OTHER
11:30:36AM PARTY THAT CLAIMING THESE THINGS WILL BE HEARD, LISTENING
11:30:41AM OVER HERE.
11:30:42AM I'M NOT A GOOD SPEAKER, SO I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT AS GOOD AS
11:30:46AM I CAN.
11:30:46AM I'M A BUSINESS OWNER SINCE 14 YEARS OVER THERE.
11:30:53AM SERVING THE COMMUNITY AS MUCH AS I CAN WITH THE MAXIMUM
11:30:56AM CAPACITY THAT I CAN.
11:30:58AM YOUR POLICE LAW CAN TESTIFY WHAT I'M DOING.
11:31:01AM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT CAN TESTIFY WHAT I'M DOING.
11:31:04AM MY ROLE OVER THERE TO SERVE MY COMMUNITY AND MAKE IT SAFE AS
11:31:09AM MUCH AS I CAN AND THE STORE OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC AS SAFE AS I
11:31:13AM CAN.
11:31:13AM OTHERWISE, THERE'S A COMMUNITY MEMBER OVER JACKSON HEIGHTS
11:31:19AM NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH CLAIMING THAT THE STORE IS DRIVING
11:31:22AM VIOLENCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS OUT OF THE REALITY BY
11:31:29AM THE POLICE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT RECORDS.
11:31:32AM COMMUNICATE WITH US -- ADDRESS WITH ONE OF YOUR CITY
11:31:39AM COUNCIL, AND SHE'S NOT COMMUNICATING WITH US IN ORDER TO SEE
11:31:42AM WHAT WE CAN DO TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY AND TO PLAY A GOOD
11:31:48AM ROLE TO ENHANCE THE AREA AROUND ME.
11:31:52AM I CAME OVER HERE JUST TO TELL YOU THAT IT'S HARD FOR ME TO

11:32:00AM PLAY -- WITHOUT HELP OF OTHERS.
11:32:05AM I'M SEEKING HELP WITH THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE PEOPLE
11:32:09AM AROUND ME TO MAKE THAT AREA BETTER.
11:32:12AM BUT WOULD MEMBERS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH IS NOT WORKING
11:32:18AM WITH US, GOING TO MAKE HARD FOR ME JUST TO PUSH FORWARD WHAT
11:32:23AM I'M DOING IN THE AREA OVER HERE.
11:32:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, APPRECIATE IT.
11:32:37AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:32:38AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
11:32:39AM A LOT OF STUFF TO TALK ABOUT THIS MORNING.
11:32:41AM FIRST, I AM A PROUD ALUMNI OF TAMPA BAY TECH.
11:32:47AM TECH THAT SCHOOL, YOU CHOOSE TO GO THERE.
11:32:53AM BACK IN THE DAY, IT WAS A CHOICE, RIGHT?
11:32:56AM SCHOOL CHOICE AND EVERYTHING.
11:32:57AM GET UP AT 5:00 IN THE MORNING, BE AT THE BUS STOP AT 6:00 IN
11:33:00AM THE MORNING.
11:33:01AM WE SACRIFICED GOING TO SCHOOL WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDS,
11:33:07AM BUT WE GAINED FAMILY AT THAT SCHOOL BECAUSE WE DISPLACED
11:33:15AM OURSELVES TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
11:33:17AM I AM A PROUD ALUMNI OF IT.
11:33:19AM I LOVE TO SEE WHERE IT'S GOING, AND GO TECH, TECH, TECH.
11:33:23AM SAY WHAT.
11:33:24AM TWO, I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL THAT HAS MET WITH
11:33:32AM FLORIDA RISING THUS FAR.
11:33:34AM GWEN HENDERSON, ALAN, WE HAVE TO RESCHEDULE.

11:33:38AM I KNOW I HAD A MEETING.
11:33:40AM SO WE'RE RESCHEDULING WITH ALAN.
11:33:43AM LYNN HURTAK AND LUIS VIERA.
11:33:46AM AND GUIDO, I HAD TO RESCHEDULE WITH HIM ALSO.
11:33:50AM I'M SHOUTING YOU ALL OUT BECAUSE I TOLD YOU I WOULD.
11:33:53AM BILL CARLSON AND CHARLIE MIRANDA, WE DON'T BITE.
11:33:58AM THE OFFICE IS WELCOMING AND WE ARE AFFORDING AN OPPORTUNITY
11:34:01AM FOR YOU TO SEE WHERE WE ARE AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR
11:34:04AM MEMBERS.
11:34:04AM WE DON'T BITE.
11:34:05AM WE WANT THE SAME TREATMENT THAT YOU PROVIDE TO EVERYBODY
11:34:08AM ELSE THAT YOU GO OUT AND YOU GO OUT AND MEET THEM.
11:34:11AM I'M JUST PUTTING THAT ON THE RECORD.
11:34:13AM THE LITTLE LEAGUE, THE YOUNG LADY CAME IN AND TALKING ABOUT
11:34:21AM INTERBAY, YELLOW JACKETS, THAT BASEBALL FIELD BEING
11:34:26AM DISPLACED AND MOVED HAS ALWAYS BOTHERED ME.
11:34:29AM I THINK THAT CITY COUNCIL BACK THEN, BECAUSE YOU GUYS, I
11:34:35AM DON'T THINK NONE OF YOU WERE ON CITY COUNCIL, BUT BACK THEN,
11:34:39AM I THINK THAT THE LIES THEY TOLD COACH WRIGHT HAD ALWAYS
11:34:43AM BOTHERED ME.
11:34:45AM AND HE WAS A TRUSTING MAN TO BELIEVE THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE
11:34:49AM MADE WHOLE WHEREVER THEY WENT, WHEREVER THEY WERE PLACED.
11:34:53AM AND THAT WAS A DISSERVICE FOR THAT BASEBALL TEAM.
11:34:58AM HISTORICAL BASEBALL TEAM.
11:35:00AM HISTORICAL BLACK BASEBALL TEAM.

11:35:01AM SO WHEN I HEAR INTERBAY BEING MISTREATED, WHICH I WAS
11:35:11AM SURPRISED, SO THAT IS A PROBLEM.
11:35:13AM THE BUDGET, THE MILLAGE INCREASE, I WANT CITY COUNCIL -- AND
11:35:16AM I'LL BE BACK -- TO REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT IS NEEDED.
11:35:21AM YOU'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO INCREASE THE RATES, BUT YOU NEED TO
11:35:25AM -- THERE HAS TO BE A LOT OF TRANSPARENCY WITH THAT.
11:35:28AM HOUSING SHOULD BE THE CENTER POINT OF EVERYTHING, NOT
11:35:33AM POLICE, NOT FIRE, HOUSING.
11:35:35AM BECAUSE THAT'S THE GREATEST ISSUE.
11:35:38AM I'LL SPEAK MORE ABOUT THAT.
11:35:40AM THANK YOU.
11:35:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:35:41AM YES, MA'AM.
11:35:51AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:35:52AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:35:53AM LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET.
11:35:56AM LET'S START WITH WE HAD THREE Ps AND AN H.
11:36:00AM LET'S TALK ABOUT PAVING FIRST.
11:36:02AM THIS IS PART MAYOR'S PowerPoint PRESENTATION.
11:36:06AM $18 MILLION A YEAR WAS SUPPOSED TO GO INTO PAVING.
11:36:09AM YET WHEN I LOOK AT THE NIFTY PowerPoint OR THE ONLINE
11:36:13AM STUFF, WE HAVE 4.1 MILLION.
11:36:16AM THE CFO EXPLAINED TO ME LAST NIGHT AFTER I ASKED THIS
11:36:19AM QUESTION DURING THE BUDGET MEETING FOR THE CITIZENS BUDGET
11:36:23AM REVIEW YESTERDAY, THAT, OH, WE HAVE THAT MONEY SET ASIDE BUT

11:36:27AM WE'RE GOING TO GET GRANT MONEY.
11:36:30AM HERE'S MY QUESTION, WHY HAVEN'T WE GOT GRANT MONEY THE LAST
11:36:33AM FIVE YEARS WHEN WE SPENT $5 MILLION?
11:36:35AM THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION.
11:36:38AM I NEED TO KNOW WHERE THAT SANTA CLAUS IS GOING TO COME AND
11:36:41AM BRING US THE REST OF IT BECAUSE WE HAVE ALLOCATED FOR 4.1.
11:36:45AM THAT IS A WHOLE LOT LESS.
11:36:46AM WHERE IS THE OTHER 13.5 GOING?
11:36:48AM STAFFING CHANGES.
11:36:51AM THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING LITTLE DYNAMIC HERE, AND I'M
11:36:54AM SORRY IT'S SO SMALL.
11:36:57AM I DON'T MAKE THESE THINGS.
11:36:58AM I'M NOT RICH AND I DON'T HAVE A SECRETARY.
11:37:00AM BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE BUDGET SHOWS WE'LL HAVE 24.72
11:37:06AM INCREASE IN EMPLOYEES.
11:37:08AM NOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL, BUT THE PRESENTATION I SAW
11:37:11AM SAID WE'RE GOING TO GET 30 POLICE OFFICERS AND 30 FIREMEN.
11:37:14AM THAT'S NOT THERE.
11:37:17AM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT GRANTS, AND I
11:37:21AM UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT HERE'S THE THING.
11:37:26AM YOU WANT MONEY OUT OF MY POCKET, OUT OF EVERYBODY'S POCKET
11:37:29AM IN HERE AND THIS IS NOT WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.
11:37:32AM IF YOU WANT TO TELL ME THAT YOU HAVE FOUR REASONS FOR
11:37:36AM RAISING OUR TAXES, THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHERE EVERY
11:37:41AM SINGLE PENNY OF IT GOES.

11:37:43AM IT NEEDS TO BE LASER FOCUSED ON WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US WE'RE
11:37:46AM GOING TO SPEND IT ON.
11:37:47AM I WANT TO TELL YOU A TALE OF TWO HOUSES.
11:37:50AM THESE ARE BOTH HOUSES THAT BELONG TO ME.
11:37:52AM MY HUSBAND AND I.
11:37:54AM I WANT YOU TO NOTICE THAT ONE OF THEM IS 1525 A MONTH FOR
11:38:00AM RENT AND THE OTHER IS 1875.
11:38:02AM NOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT'S CHEAP.
11:38:04AM WHY?
11:38:04AM BECAUSE MY TENANTS ARE GOOD TENANTS AND I'M A GOOD LANDLORD
11:38:07AM AND I TAKE CARE OF MY PEOPLE.
11:38:09AM I GO UP 25 BUCKS A YEAR, WHETHER I LIKE IT OR NOT.
11:38:12AM THAT'S NOT MUCH.
11:38:13AM I THINK EVERYBODY OUT HERE WHO IS A RENTER WILL TELL YOU
11:38:17AM IT'S NOT.
11:38:17AM MY INSURANCE WENT FROM ABOUT $1200 A YEAR TO $1300 A YEAR.
11:38:22AM WITH THIS TAX INCREASE, I'M LOOKING AT PAYING OVER $8,000 IN
11:38:26AM TAXES AND INSURANCE ALONE ON THESE PROPERTIES.
11:38:29AM HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KEEP AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON BOARD FOR
11:38:35AM THESE PEOPLE?
11:38:37AM BOTTOM LINE IS, I'M ASKING YOU, ARE WE ROBBING PETER TO PAY
11:38:41AM PAUL?
11:38:41AM BECAUSE I'M GOING TO TELL YOU I'M STILL GOING UP 25 BUCKS A
11:38:44AM MONTH.
11:38:45AM BUT ARE THE OTHER LANDLORDS GOING TO DO IT?

11:38:47AM AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
11:38:51AM I'M JUST THROWING THINGS OUT THERE THAT MAKE ME CONCERNED.
11:38:54AM I DO NOT WANT TO PAY $7 MILLION TO FIND A PARKING SPACE.
11:38:58AM I AM DOWN HERE LOOKING FOR PARKING SPACES MORE OFTEN THAN
11:39:02AM MOST BECAUSE I DON'T FIT IN THE PARKING GARAGE.
11:39:04AM EVERY SINGLE TIME I FIND A PARKING SPACE ALL BY MYSELF
11:39:07AM WITHOUT A $7 MILLION APP.
11:39:12AM THANK YOU.
11:39:12AM >> SUGRET DOSS.
11:39:18AM I THANK SISTER FOR BRINGING IT UP.
11:39:21AM 2023, YET WE FEEL LIKE OR I FEEL LIKE I'M IN 1963 HERE IN
11:39:25AM TAMPA.
11:39:26AM I'M GLAD YOU STILL HAVE YOUR HOUSES BECAUSE I CAN'T SAY THE
11:39:29AM SAME THING.
11:39:30AM LET ME ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS BECAUSE SOMETHING HAPPENED
11:39:33AM RECENTLY WHERE SOME TROOPERS DESCENDED ON A BLACK WOMAN'S
11:39:37AM HOUSE WHO WAS HOME ON FAMILY MEDICAL LEAVE AND SPEAKING
11:39:41AM SPECIFICALLY TO GOVERNOR DESANTIS AND MS. MOODY WHO IS
11:39:44AM ACTUALLY FROM HERE.
11:39:45AM FIRST OF ALL, CRT WAS NEVER CAUGHT IN K-12.
11:39:49AM WE NEED TO STOP TELLING THAT LIE.
11:39:51AM THAT IS SOMETHING TAUGHT IN HIGHER EDUCATION.
11:39:53AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION VERSUS INDOCTRINATION.
11:39:57AM I DON'T KNOW WHO CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS REALLY WAS, ACTUALLY I
11:40:00AM DO, BUT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE MOORES, DO WE?

11:40:03AM THERE IS A REASON WHY THE BLACK -- CHILD EXIST AND IT AIN'T
11:40:10AM FOR MOCKERY SAKE.
11:40:11AM TALK ABOUT LAW AND ORDER, LET'S BE CONSISTENT.
11:40:14AM LAW AND ORDER AND THESE THINGS DON'T APPLY WHEN THE PERSON,
11:40:18AM THE CRIMINAL CULPRIT HAPPENS TO BE PRIVILEGED, WHITE, JUDGE
11:40:24AM OR COP IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:40:25AM KIND OF STRANGE THEY WERE ALL IN HERE.
11:40:28AM WISH THEY STAYED FOR THIS.
11:40:29AM TO THIS DAY, HERE WE ARE.
11:40:31AM STILL CAN'T GET THE INFORMATION.
11:40:32AM I'M NOT GIVING YOU $10,000 FOR STUFF YOU SHOULD HAVE GIVEN
11:40:36AM ME DURING BRADY.
11:40:37AM THAT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I'M GOING TO GET THE
11:40:40AM INFORMATION.
11:40:40AM WHAT I'M HERE TO SAY IS ALSO I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD TAKE
11:40:44AM NOTE.
11:40:45AM I KNOW I HAVE THE ATTORNEYS TO MY IMMEDIATE LEFT.
11:40:48AM YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE OUT FLORIDA STATUTE 817.49 WHICH IS
11:40:52AM GIVING A FALSE REPORT WHEN A CRIME DID NOT TAKE PLACE.
11:40:55AM AND, THE FAKE CRIME SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT, YES, A FAKE
11:41:00AM CRIME.
11:41:00AM I WAS ACCUSED OF A FAKE CRIME BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
11:41:04AM I WON, AND CANDIDLY I'M GOING TO WHIP THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:41:07AM AGAIN WHEN I GET YOU IN FEDERAL COURT IF ANYTHING IS HONEST
11:41:11AM AND ABOVEBOARD.

11:41:12AM THE FACT THAT YOU ALL WENT AND HIRED A GUY WHO FIRED THE
11:41:20AM FALSE REPORT IS AGAIN INSULTING.
11:41:22AM I'M SURE I'M NOT AN ANOMALY EXCEPT I FOUGHT BACK FOR MYSELF
11:41:27AM AND WON.
11:41:27AM AND WILL WIN AGAIN.
11:41:29AM WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THE CITY, SAY THE COUNTY AND THE STATE,
11:41:32AM PEOPLE IN THIS CITY, I HAVE HEARING OFFICERS WHO LIE TO GET
11:41:36AM CHILD SUPPORT CASES MOVED FORWARD.
11:41:38AM THAT'S NOT MY ISSUE TODAY.
11:41:39AM I KNOW IT IS A STATE ISSUE.
11:41:40AM HOW MANY BROTHERS KNOW IT SINCE OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL SAID
11:41:43AM WE'RE GOING TO SPEAK TO THE STATUTES.
11:41:45AM LOOK AT 61.3.
11:41:47AM HOW MANY CHILD SUPPORT CASES ARE PUSHED WITH NO VERIFIED
11:41:51AM AFFIDAVIT FINANCIALLY OR A TIME SHARING AGREEMENT ATTACHED
11:41:55AM TO IT.
11:41:56AM THAT'S NOT ME.
11:41:57AM THE LAW CLEARLY STATES YOU HAVE TO DO THIS, BUT IT DOESN'T
11:42:00AM HAPPEN.
11:42:01AM FURTHERMORE, TO MY ESTEEMED GOVERNOR, AFRICANS DIDN'T NEED
11:42:06AM COLONIZERS TO SHOW US OUR GREATNESS.
11:42:10AM THE EXISTENCE OF CIVILIZATION STATES THAT.
11:42:13AM BY THE WAY, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHY THE PYRAMIDS ARE IN
11:42:17AM AFRICA, BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T MOVE THEM TO EUROPE.
11:42:21AM SHOUT OUT TO THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.

11:42:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:42:24AM YES, SIR.
11:42:34AM >> MENTESNOT.
11:42:36AM UHURU.
11:42:38AM MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
11:42:40AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
11:42:43AM FREEDOM.
11:42:43AM THINKING ABOUT FREEDOM, CONNECT IT TO 623 YEARS OF
11:42:48AM OCCUPATION, SUBJUGATION, SLAVERY, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS,
11:42:51AM DOMINATION, WHATSOEVER IT MAY BE.
11:42:55AM RIGHT HERE LOCALIZE THE SITUATION, RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF
11:42:57AM TAMPA, WHAT WE ARE SEEING AS AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE BEING USED
11:43:01AM AND ABUSED AT A RATE PHENOMENALLY UNREAL.
11:43:04AM WE SEE A MAYOR CAME RIGHT HERE AND BROUGHT A 93-YEAR-OLD
11:43:07AM BLACK LADY THAT LIKES TALKING SOME CRAZINESS, LITERALLY
11:43:13AM CRAZINESS, PIMPING BLACK PEOPLE, TRYING TO GET TAXES
11:43:16AM THROUGH.
11:43:16AM THAT'S REAL SMART OF THEM.
11:43:20AM WHEN A BLACK PERSON TALK, IF THEY AIN'T TALKING ABOUT
11:43:23AM REPUTATIONS, THEY AIN'T TALKING ABOUT NOTHING.
11:43:26AM WHEN A BLACK PERSON SPEAK, IF WE AIN'T SPEAKING ABOUT
11:43:28AM REPUTATIONS, IF WE AIN'T TALKING ABOUT WE 26% OF THIS CITY
11:43:33AM POPULATION, WE AIN'T NEVER GOT 26% OF THE BUDGET.
11:43:36AM IF A BLACK PERSON IS TALKING ABOUT A $2 BILLION BUDGET AND
11:43:41AM WE AIN'T GETTING NOTHING OUT OF IT, THEY AIN'T TALKING ABOUT

11:43:45AM NOTHING.
11:43:45AM I WANT TO SEND OUT CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILIES OF LAURA ANN
11:43:51AM CARLTON.
11:43:52AM THAT IS A PERSON ALL THE WAY IN CALIFORNIA THAT WAS MURDERED
11:43:55AM BECAUSE SHE DECIDED TO FLY A PRIDE FLAG.
11:44:00AM THAT'S REAL DISHEARTENING.
11:44:02AM THAT'S REAL, REAL, REAL DISHEARTENING.
11:44:05AM THAT'S REAL DISHEARTENING THAT A SYSTEM CAN BRING UP PEOPLE
11:44:09AM FROM THAT LEVEL, RENEGADES FROM THAT LEVEL, WHITE
11:44:16AM NATIONALISTS ON THE OTHER LEVEL THAT THINK IT'S COOL TO
11:44:20AM ATTACK PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR BELIEFS.
11:44:23AM AND IF THEIR BELIEFS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING
11:44:27AM AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS THEM, THAT'S REAL DISHEARTENING.
11:44:31AM BUT THAT'S BEEN GOING ON AND THAT'S BEEN GOING ON AGAINST
11:44:34AM AFRICAN PEOPLE FOR 62 YEARS.
11:44:36AM WE'VE BEEN LYNCHED.
11:44:38AM WE'VE BEEN OVER-SENTENCED, WE'VE BEEN INCARCERATED, WE'VE
11:44:42AM BEEN EVERYTHING THAT'S NEGATIVE AND THAT HAVE TO CHANGE.
11:44:45AM THIS CITY HAVE TO CHANGE THIS.
11:44:47AM THAT CAN'T CONTINUE.
11:44:49AM THESE WHITE PEOPLE CAN'T CONTINUE USING THE FEW AFRICANS TO
11:44:53AM GET THEIR WAY AND HOLDING IT DOWN INSIDE THE AFRICAN
11:44:57AM COMMUNITY.
11:44:58AM THAT HAVE TO CHANGE.
11:44:59AM ON THE JACKSON HOUSE, THAT HAVE TO CHANGE.

11:45:02AM BOB BUCKHORN EIGHT YEARS, THIS MAYOR, FOUR YEARS, NOTHING,
11:45:10AM BAD REPRESENTATION OF WHAT AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD BE, COULD
11:45:15AM BE.
11:45:16AM OUR ASPIRATIONS, OUR DREAMS AND GOALS --
11:45:21AM [ENCODER DROP]
11:45:45AM >> I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY WAY YOU CAN SKIP AND GO
11:45:51AM TO THE STORMWATER UTILITY ISSUE.
11:45:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A STAFF REPORT.
11:45:58AM WE HAVE SOME FIRST READINGS.
11:46:00AM WE HAVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS GENERALLY QUICK.
11:46:04AM AND THEN WE WOULD GO INTO THAT.
11:46:06AM BUT WE'RE APPROACHING THE 12:00 HOUR.
11:46:09AM WE'RE LIKELY GOING TO BREAK AT 12:30 AT THE LATEST.
11:46:12AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GET TO THAT PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE.
11:46:16AM >> IS THERE ANOTHER DAY THAT I CAN ATTEND THIS?
11:46:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S GOING TO BE HELD TODAY.
11:46:22AM >> ONLY TODAY?
11:46:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, IT'S FOR TODAY.
11:46:26AM >> I WORK LAST NIGHT.
11:46:28AM I DIDN'T HAVE BREAKFAST.
11:46:29AM I THOUGHT I WOULD BE IN AND OUT.
11:46:31AM MY METER IS ABOUT UP.
11:46:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK NOW ABOUT IT?
11:46:36AM YOU CAN SPEAK NOW.
11:46:38AM >> I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.

11:46:40AM ARE THEY GOING TO BE REPAIRING THE AREA FOR THAT STORMWATER
11:46:46AM LINE?
11:46:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK, WHAT IT IS, IS BACK IN 2016
11:46:50AM IN SEPTEMBER WE PASSED THE STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
11:46:54AM PROJECT, WHICH IS A CITYWIDE STORMWATER PROJECT, AND THEN WE
11:46:57AM PASSED A SERVICE ASSESSMENT INCREASE, WHICH IS ALREADY
11:47:01AM EXISTING.
11:47:01AM THAT'S TO ADDRESS FLOODING THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN A VARIETY
11:47:04AM OF PROJECTS OVER A 20, 30-YEAR PERIOD.
11:47:09AM EACH YEAR WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
11:47:11AM WE APPROVE IT.
11:47:12AM WE ARE ALREADY AT YEAR SIX, SEVEN OF THIS, SO I BELIEVE IT'S
11:47:18AM REACHED THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT.
11:47:19AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS GOING UP, BECAUSE IT WAS COMING IN
11:47:23AM GRADUALLY COST-WISE, AND IT'S JUST A FORMALITY WE HAVE WHERE
11:47:27AM WE APPROVE IT EVERY YEAR, THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT, AND I
11:47:32AM BELIEVE UNLESS MR. MORRIS WISHES TO CORRECT ME, McCLAIN.
11:47:40AM DID I SAY THAT ALL CORRECT OR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION?
11:47:45AM YES, MA'AM.
11:47:46AM THIS IS ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS THAT WILL ANSWER THE QUESTION
11:47:49AM REAL QUICK.
11:47:50AM >> PERTAINING TO THE STORMWATER.
11:47:51AM I DON'T RECALL ABOUT --
11:47:59AM >> McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:48:02AM YES, SIR, YOU ARE RIGHT.

11:48:03AM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ASSESSMENT HIT ITS TOP LEVEL IN 2021
11:48:07AM AND IS NOT INCREASING THIS YEAR.
11:48:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE AN INCREASE
11:48:11AM IN YOUR STORMWATER FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
11:48:14AM SO WHAT YOU SAW LAST YEAR IS WHAT IS GOING TO APPEAR ON YOUR
11:48:20AM TRIM NOTICE OR YOUR PROPERTY TAXES.
11:48:23AM >> THERE WON'T BE ANY FEES OR ANYTHING.
11:48:29AM >> CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO -- McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT
11:48:33AM CITY ATTORNEY.
11:48:34AM THIS IS A QUESTION ABOUT THE STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
11:48:36AM WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO EXPLAIN THAT?
11:48:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:48:39AM >> TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF ASSESSMENTS.
11:48:41AM THE CHAIR WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
11:48:43AM THAT ONLY APPLIES TO PEOPLE LOCATED IN CENTRAL AND SOUTH
11:48:47AM TAMPA.
11:48:47AM THE STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT, WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR
11:48:51AM HAND, IS CITYWIDE, AND IT'S FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE
11:48:56AM STORMWATER SYSTEM.
11:48:57AM IT INCLUDES THE STREET SWEEPING AND CLEARING OF THE SYSTEM
11:49:02AM AND PREVENTING -- KEEPING IT IN GOOD FUNCTION.
11:49:06AM IT IS ASSESSED ACCORDING TO HOW MUCH IMPERVIOUS YOU HAVE ON
11:49:10AM YOUR PROPERTY, WHICH IS AREA THAT DOESN'T ABSORB WATER AND
11:49:14AM SENDS WATER INTO THE CITY SYSTEM.
11:49:17AM >> I WAS WORRIED ABOUT NOT PAYING AMOUNT AND LIEN ON THE

11:49:21AM PROPERTY AND ALL THAT.
11:49:25AM >> THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE -- CHAIR, MAY I CONTINUE?
11:49:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:49:30AM >> THANK YOU.
11:49:31AM SO THE CITY USES A PROCESS TO COLLECT FOR THE SAKE OF
11:49:35AM EFFICIENCY, THIS IS CALLED A NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT.
11:49:39AM HOWEVER, THE STATE STATUTE ALLOWS US TO BASICALLY PUT IT ON
11:49:44AM THE PROPERTY TAX BILL SO THAT PEOPLE RECEIVE ONE BIG BILL,
11:49:49AM BUT THIS IS A SPECIFIC USER FEE.
11:49:53AM TECHNICALLY UNDER THE LAW NOT IN THE CATEGORY OF TAX, BUT IT
11:49:57AM APPEARS ON YOUR TAX BILL FOR THE SAKE OF EFFICIENCY, WE SAVE
11:50:02AM MONEY AND NOT HAVING TO SEND A SEPARATE BILL AND COLLECT A
11:50:05AM SEPARATE BILL FROM EVERYONE BECAUSE IT IS ON THE TAX BILL,
11:50:08AM YOU HAVE THAT LANGUAGE ABOUT THE LIEN IF IT GOES UNPAID,
11:50:11AM JUST LIKE ANY PROPERTY TAXES THAT WOULD BE ON THAT BILL.
11:50:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY ARE NOT DOING IT TO YOU.
11:50:17AM THAT'S INFORMATION ON EVERYBODY'S REGARDING A LIEN OR
11:50:19AM ANYTHING IF YOU DON'T PAY.
11:50:21AM IT'S INFORMATIONAL IN YOUR CASE.
11:50:23AM >> I GOT YOU.
11:50:24AM ALL RIGHT.
11:50:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, THAT'S IT.
11:50:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:50:34AM SOMETIMES OUR AGENDAS ARE SO BUSY THAT THINGS GET DELAYED.
11:50:40AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:50:40AM ANYBODY ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:50:42AM YES, SIR.
11:50:43AM YOU'RE GOOD.
11:50:45AM ALL RIGHT.
11:50:46AM MR. ROBINSON.
11:50:48AM >> QUESTION.
11:50:49AM DON'T START THE CLOCK NOW.
11:50:51AM IS THE JACKSON HOUSE, DO WE HAVE TO SPEAK NOW ABOUT THAT OR
11:50:54AM IS THAT GOING TO BE A SEPARATE CONVERSATION?
11:50:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
11:50:57AM IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, SPEAK ABOUT IT NOW, BUT IT
11:51:00AM WON'T BE PRESENTED UNTIL LATER.
11:51:02AM >> WHAT ABOUT ADAM HARDEN ISSUE THAT MS. VELEZ, IS THAT
11:51:06AM GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING OR SEPARATE?
11:51:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ADAM HARDEN ISSUE.
11:51:11AM WHICH ONE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
11:51:14AM >> LET ME GET THE ELMO WORKING HERE.
11:51:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW,
11:51:18AM WE'LL ACTIVATE IT.
11:51:19AM >> I'LL BACK OFF OF THAT FOR RIGHT NOW.
11:51:21AM BUT LET'S GET THE ELMO HERE.
11:51:23AM PLEASE KEEP THE ELMO ON UNTIL I TELL YOU TO FADE IT OUT.
11:51:29AM JOE ROBINSON, TAMPA, FLORIDA. THIS IS A PHOTO, IF YOU LOOK
11:51:33AM AT THE ELMO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS IN THE MIDDLE.
11:51:36AM THAT'S WILLIE ROBINSON.

11:51:38AM SOME PEOPLE SAY MIGHT BE KIN TO HIM, BACK IN '59, STEP
11:51:44AM DADDY, PICK UP A PAPER BAG WITH MONEY IN IT AT THE JACKSON
11:51:49AM HOUSE OR NEXT TO IT.
11:51:50AM YOU CAN FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF, CHARLIE WHAT THAT MEANS IN
11:51:53AM '58, '59.
11:51:56AM I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD.
11:51:57AM THAT IS MR. JACK ROBINSON GETTING A $50,000 CHECK THAT THE
11:52:01AM NAACP WITH DR. COLLINS PRESIDENT TO SUPPORT THE JACKSON
11:52:05AM HOUSE.
11:52:05AM AND THIS WAS A PHOTO HERE, KEEP THE ELMO UP --
11:52:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUT IT HIGHER.
11:52:12AM >> TELL THEM TO STOP THAT SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THIS.
11:52:15AM I SAID KEEP THE ELMO ON UNTIL SUCH TIME I TELL YOU NOT TO.
11:52:22AM THIS IS PEOPLE ALSO THERE SUPPORTING IT.
11:52:24AM THE JACKSON HOUSE AND STUFF, YOU KNOW THE STORY OF IT.
11:52:27AM IT'S HISTORICAL, KEEP THE ELMO ON, DON'T COME TO ME.
11:52:31AM I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU ALL DO THAT.
11:52:32AM YOU CAN SEE THAT.
11:52:37AM THAT IS IN THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
11:52:39AM ITEM 17 ON THE LOCAL, KEEP THE ELMO ON.
11:52:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M NOT DOING IT.
11:52:46AM IT'S THEM.
11:52:46AM IT'S UP.
11:52:47AM >> IF I DON'T SEE IT UP THERE, IT AIN'T ON.
11:52:49AM DON'T PLAY GAMES WITH ME NOW.

11:52:52AM ITEM 17, LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:52:54AM LET'S GET DOWN TO THIS.
11:52:56AM THE JACKSON HOUSE, MR. ROBINSON WOULD NEVER WANT EMINENT
11:52:59AM DOMAIN.
11:53:00AM YOU ARE INTERFERING AND I'M SAYING HERE FOR THE RECORD THAT
11:53:03AM THIS EMINENT DOMAIN AND DAMAGES THAT OCCUR HERE, TO CONDEMN
11:53:10AM PROPERTY OR CONDEMN PARTS OF PROPERTY.
11:53:14AM I KNOW FAMILIAR WITH THE BURT HARRIS PRIVATE PROPERTY
11:53:18AM RIGHTS.
11:53:19AM I'M NOT HERE DEFENDING THE BROTHERS BUT YOU'RE INTERFERING
11:53:22AM WITH A NEGOTIATION SAYING YOU'RE GOING TO BUY THE JACKSON,
11:53:25AM JACKSON HOUSE DON'T WANT TO SELL THE HOUSE, LAND, NOTHING.
11:53:29AM LEAVE IT ALONE.
11:53:30AM IT IS A BULLY MENTALITY MR. CARLSON THAT YOU MENTIONED
11:53:33AM PREVIOUSLY.
11:53:34AM A BULLY MENTALITY TO SAY THAT YOU WANT TO GO BUY THE JACKSON
11:53:38AM HOUSE.
11:53:39AM TORTIOUS INTERFERENCE IS PROBABLY WHAT IT IS.
11:53:41AM THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE DOWN THE ROAD NOW.
11:53:45AM LEAVE IT ALONE.
11:53:46AM FOLLOW YOUR 1998 NEIGHBORHOODS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:53:50AM WHAT YOU OUGHT TO BE DOING IS WHAT IT SAYS.
11:53:54AM ENCOURAGE THE RESTORATION AND REHABILITATION OF HISTORIC
11:53:56AM SITES THROUGH INCENTIVE PROGRAMS WHICH MAY INCLUDE INCREASED
11:54:00AM DENSITY GRANTS, LOANS AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE.

11:54:03AM THAT'S YOUR POLICY IN '98.
11:54:07AM WHAT IS IT NOW IN 2040?
11:54:10AM 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:54:13AM SUPPORT THE EFFORT OF PRIVATE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO
11:54:15AM RAISE FUNDS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF HISTORIC PROPERTY.
11:54:18AM WHEN IS THE CITY GOING TO DO THAT?
11:54:20AM THAT'S IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RIGHT NOW.
11:54:23AM STOP BULLYING THIS PROJECT.
11:54:24AM THE ACCARDI BROTHERS THAT OWN THE PROPERTY DOWNTOWN THAT YOU
11:54:27AM WANT TO GET RID OF PARKING, DO NOT INTERFERE WITH THAT
11:54:31AM PRIVATE NEGOTIATION.
11:54:33AM THAT'S TORTIOUS INTERFERENCE IN MY OPINION.
11:54:36AM KEEP DOING IT, THERE WILL BE CRIMINAL CHARGES GOING ON
11:54:38AM AROUND HERE.
11:54:40AM THE ACCARDI BROTHERS ARE GOOD PEOPLE AND DON'T NEED TO BE
11:54:45AM BULLIED INTO EMINENT DOMAIN BECAUSE IT APPEARS IT IS A QUID
11:54:47AM PRO QUO.
11:54:48AM I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
11:54:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M GOING TO RESPOND.
11:54:54AM YOU MAY KNOW THAT 2013 I MET WITH WILLIE ROBINSON, AND I
11:55:01AM WORKED ON AN EFFORT TO TRY TO SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE.
11:55:03AM AT THE TIME THAT I MET WILLIE, HE HAD JUST GOTTEN A LETTER
11:55:06AM FROM THE CITY THAT MAYOR BUCKHORN HAD ORDERED TO DEMOLISH
11:55:09AM THE JACKSON HOUSE.
11:55:10AM HE HAD CONDEMNED IT.

11:55:12AM HE WAS GOING TO TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN, CHARGE WILLIE $60,000
11:55:16AM IN LATE PAYMENTS AND HE WAS ALSO GOING TO CHARGE HIM FOR THE
11:55:19AM COST OF TEARING IT DOWN.
11:55:20AM WILLIE SHOWED ME A LETTER.
11:55:22AM UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE A COPY.
11:55:23AM I CAN PULL PUBLIC RECORDS AND GET IT.
11:55:25AM I CALLED LINDA SAUL-SENA.
11:55:27AM SHE CAME INTO CITY COUNCIL, AT LEAST TWO OR THREE COLLEAGUES
11:55:31AM WERE ON THE COUNCIL THEN AND THEY VOTED TO STAY THE
11:55:34AM EXECUTION OF THE JACKSON HOUSE BECAUSE THE BUCKHORN WAS
11:55:37AM GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN.
11:55:38AM THEY WERE GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN THE SATURDAY AFTER
11:55:41AM THANKSGIVING WHICH I FOUND ABHORRENT.
11:55:44AM I THEN PARTICIPATED WITH A GROUP OF FOLKS TO SAVE IT.
11:55:46AM WE RAISED THE MONEY.
11:55:48AM PRO BONO EFFORTS AND MR. ROBINSON AND HIS FAMILY AGREE TO
11:55:51AM THE DEAL.
11:55:52AM BUCKHORN THEN SENT CITY ATTORNEY IN TO, WITH A LETTER THAT
11:55:57AM ESSENTIALLY SAID NO MATTER WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, WE'LL
11:56:01AM TEAR IT DOWN ANYWAY.
11:56:02AM EVERYONE WALKED FROM THE DEAL BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEY WERE
11:56:05AM THREATENED.
11:56:05AM PREVIOUS ATTEMPTS TO SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE HAVE BEEN --
11:56:08AM SINCE THEN THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION HAS CONTROLLED THE
11:56:11AM PROPERTY.

11:56:12AM AS YOU KNOW MR. ROBINSON PASSED AWAY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
11:56:15AM THE LAST I TALKED TO, I TOLD HIM I WOULD CONTINUE WORKING TO
11:56:18AM SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE.
11:56:19AM ONE OF MANY PEOPLE.
11:56:21AM PROBABLY INVOLVED IN IT TOO OVER THE YEARS.
11:56:23AM THE JACKSON HOUSE, IT GOES WAY BEYOND THE PROPERTY OF
11:56:26AM MR. ROBINSON'S FAMILY, AND BEYOND THE JACKSON HOUSE
11:56:30AM FOUNDATION.
11:56:31AM IT IS AN ASSET, HISTORICAL BUILDING FOR THE ENTIRE CITY.
11:56:34AM SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY LOVES AND WANTS TO
11:56:37AM SAVE.
11:56:38AM UNFORTUNATELY, THERE IS A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC
11:56:40AM BECAUSE THEY THINK CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY ARE NOT DOING
11:56:43AM ANYTHING.
11:56:43AM HOWEVER, MUCH THE LAST MAYOR WANTED TO TEAR DOWN THE JACKSON
11:56:47AM HOUSE, I FOUGHT HARD TO NOT ALLOW IT TO BE TORN DOWN.
11:56:50AM AND THIS CITY COUNCIL, IN FACT, VOTED TO STOP HIM FROM
11:56:53AM TEARING IT DOWN.
11:56:53AM TWO YEARS AGO, I THINK IT WAS EITHER MANISCALCO OR I MADE A
11:56:58AM MOTION FOR CRA TO PROVIDE A MILLION DOLLARS TO SAVE THE
11:57:02AM JACKSON HOUSE.
11:57:03AM UNFORTUNATELY, WE WERE NOT INVITED.
11:57:04AM CRA AND THE CITY COUNCIL WERE NOT INVITED TO THE PRESS
11:57:07AM CONFERENCE THE MAYOR HAD TO ANNOUNCE IT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS
11:57:09AM CRA MONEY.

11:57:10AM BUT WE'RE THE ONES THAT PUT UP THE MONEY TO SAVE IT.
11:57:13AM THEN THE VINIK FOUNDATION MATCHED IT WITH A MILLION DOLLARS.
11:57:16AM SINCE THEN DARRYL ROUSON AND OTHERS HAVE PUSHED FOR FEDERAL
11:57:20AM AND OTHER MONEY.
11:57:21AM TEN YEARS AGO TO SAY THE JACKSON HOUSE WOULD HAVE COST
11:57:24AM MILLION AND A HALF, NOW THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
11:57:27AM DURING THAT TIME THINGS HAVE NOT MOVED FORWARD.
11:57:28AM I MET WITH JASON ACCARDI A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND FOUND OUT
11:57:33AM A LOT OF DETAILS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE.
11:57:35AM BUT THERE WERE ACCUSATIONS GOING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT
11:57:38AM WHETHER THE FOUNDATION HAS DONE ANYTHING TO SAVE IT.
11:57:41AM BACK WHEN WE TRIED TO SAVE IT TEN YEARS AGO, OUR VOLUNTEERS
11:57:45AM PUT BLUE TARPS TO STOP THE RAIN FROM FLOWING IN.
11:57:48AM THE TARPS EVENTUALLY FELL APART AND NOBODY FROM THE
11:57:50AM FOUNDATION PUT NEW BLUE TARPS UP.
11:57:52AM THE COMMITTEE IS CONCERNED THAT THE FOUNDATION HASN'T DONE
11:57:54AM WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO PROTECT WHAT'S LEFT OF THE JACKSON
11:57:57AM HOUSE.
11:57:57AM AND THERE ARE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST THE ACCARDIS, NOT BY ME,
11:58:01AM BUT BY OTHERS ABOUT THE SITUATION.
11:58:03AM I MADE THE MOTION TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE I WANTED
11:58:07AM TO MOVE THE AGENDA ALONG BECAUSE NEITHER PARTY WAS DOING
11:58:11AM ANYTHING.
11:58:12AM AND NOW LATER ON IN THIS AGENDA TODAY, THERE IS A SOLUTION
11:58:15AM THAT'S BEEN APPRECIATED.

11:58:16AM IT'S BEEN NEGOTIATED WHEN THE CITY AND THE ACCARDI BROTHERS.
11:58:21AM IF YOU WANT TO FILE TORTIOUS INTERFERENCE, FILE IT AGAINST
11:58:24AM THE CITY, BECAUSE THE CITY WITHOUT MY INVOLVEMENT HAS BEEN
11:58:27AM NEGOTIATING IT.
11:58:27AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT INVOLVEMENT THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION
11:58:30AM HAS BEEN DOING BUT I DO KNOW THEY SENT OUT A SLANDEROUS
11:58:34AM E-MAIL CLAIMING THAT I OR WE WANTED TO TEAR DOWN THE JACKSON
11:58:37AM HOUSE.
11:58:37AM THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.
11:58:39AM IN THE ABSENCE OF CITY COUNCIL, IN FACT, TO SAVE THE JACKSON
11:58:42AM HOUSE.
11:58:42AM AND, IN FACT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS PUSH THE
11:58:46AM RESTORATION OF THE JACKSON HOUSE TO BE SOONER BECAUSE IT'S
11:58:50AM GOING TO FALL DOWN.
11:58:52AM AND IF THE PARTIES AREN'T MOVING, WE NEED TO MOVE THEM
11:58:55AM FASTER.
11:58:55AM I THINK THE OFFER THAT THE CITY IS PUTTING FORWARD TODAY
11:58:58AM SHOWS THAT THE MOTION WORKED AND WE DID MOVE THE PARTIES TO
11:59:00AM THE NEGOTIATING TABLE.
11:59:01AM THANK YOU.
11:59:03AM >> MR. CHAIR, CAN I HAVE TEN SECONDS TO RESPOND?
11:59:07AM HE CALLED MY NAME.
11:59:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE CALLED YOUR NAME FIRST.
11:59:12AM TEN SECONDS, GO AHEAD.
11:59:15AM >> THANK YOU MR. CARLSON, BUT ONCE AGAIN, YOU DO NOT BULLY

11:59:20AM MENTALITY TO GET SOMETHING DONE IN THIS CITY VIOLATING
11:59:23AM PEOPLE'S RIGHTS.
11:59:24AM DON'T BULLY PEOPLE.
11:59:28AM THE ACCARDI PEOPLE ARE NOT PEOPLE YOU WANT TO BULLY WHEN YOU
11:59:32AM WANT TO -- DO NOT BULLY PEOPLE AROUND HERE, MAN.
11:59:35AM THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
11:59:36AM DON'T BULLY.
11:59:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:59:42AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON.
11:59:45AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:59:45AM THANK YOU.
11:59:47AM MY NAME IS PAT CRUSE.
11:59:48AM I AM ONE OF THE ORIGINAL, OR ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF
11:59:52AM THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION.
11:59:54AM I ACTUALLY HAD OPTED NOT TO SPEAK BECAUSE IT'S BEEN VERY
11:59:59AM HECTIC THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS TRYING TO WORK ON THIS ISSUE
12:00:02PM SINCE IT BECAME AN ISSUE OF EMINENT DOMAIN.
12:00:06PM EMINENT DOMAIN FOR ME, I'M NOT FROM THE U.S.
12:00:09PM I'M FROM THE VIRGIN ISLANDS, BUT EMINENT DOMAIN, WHEN I
12:00:13PM LEARNED WHAT EMINENT DOMAIN WAS FOR BLACKS, IT IS A BULLY
12:00:18PM TACTIC.
12:00:19PM IT'S A CONTROL THING.
12:00:20PM SO WHEN I HEARD EMINENT DOMAIN, WHOA, BECAUSE HISTORY HERE
12:00:25PM TOLD ME THAT WAS A HUGE CONCERN WHEN THREE-FOURTHS OF
12:00:29PM AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITIES HAVE BEEN DISPLACED BECAUSE OF

12:00:32PM EMINENT DOMAIN ACROSS THIS COUNTRY AND HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE
12:00:35PM TO REESTABLISH THEMSELVES BECAUSE OF THAT.
12:00:38PM I KNOW WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT A HOUSE.
12:00:41PM TO ME, WHAT THE HOUSE REPRESENTED WAS THE LAST THING
12:00:44PM STANDING IN WHAT WAS KNOWN AS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL BLACK
12:00:48PM COMMUNITY IN TAMPA WHICH OTHERWISE CENTRAL PARK BUSINESS
12:00:53PM DISTRICT.
12:00:56PM WE'VE HAD SO MANY MEETINGS WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE AS A
12:01:00PM COMMITTEE, AS A COUNCIL.
12:01:01PM IN THE BEGINNING, PEOPLE FIGURED I'M NOT FROM HERE TO SEE
12:01:07PM THIS.
12:01:08PM HAVE MEETINGS OR COME AND SAY, CONVINCE THEM TO MOVE THE
12:01:11PM HOUSE AS IF I'M NOT A PART OF THE BLACK STRUCTURE HERE.
12:01:17PM CONVINCE THEM TO MOVE THE HOUSE.
12:01:19PM PROBABLY BETTER TO MOVE THE HOUSE.
12:01:21PM THE DIALOGUE, THE PUSH GETTING FROM THE BEGINNING.
12:01:23PM MOVE THE HOUSE, PUT IT OVER BY PERRY HARVEY PARK WHERE ALL
12:01:29PM THE OTHER BLACK STUFF IS.
12:01:30PM THAT'S OFFENSIVE.
12:01:31PM THAT'S OFFENSIVE.
12:01:32PM THE LOCATION IS PART OF THE HISTORY, SIGNIFICANT TO THE
12:01:35PM HISTORY.
12:01:35PM LIKE I SAY, IT IS THE LAST THING STANDING.
12:01:37PM WE'VE HAD COMMENTS THAT SAID IT DOESN'T FIT WITH THE
12:01:40PM ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURE, THE NEW DIRECTION FOR THE

12:01:42PM DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:01:44PM TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT REFLECTS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, NOT WHAT
12:01:50PM IT LOOKS LIKE NOW, BUT THE ARCHITECTURAL AESTHETICS OF THE
12:01:55PM JACKSON HOUSE IS A PLUS IN THE CITY.
12:01:57PM BECAUSE AS YOU LOOK AROUND, YOU DON'T SEE MUCH, UNLESS YBOR
12:02:00PM CITY, YOU DON'T SEE MUCH OF THE PHYSICAL HISTORY.
12:02:04PM THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, YES, ALL THAT.
12:02:06PM WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT TIES US BACK WITH THE BLACK
12:02:10PM HISTORY WITH THE STORY BEING TOLD.
12:02:11PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NATIONAL REGISTER FOR PRESERVATION AND
12:02:15PM YOU READ THAT 28, 30 PAGES OF THE JACKSON HOUSE FROM THE
12:02:18PM BEGINNING, AS MUCH AS CAN TELL -- I'M ABOUT SOLUTIONS.
12:02:22PM AS FAR AS SAFETY, COVER IT, IF WE HAVE TO, PUT A TEN FOOT
12:02:26PM FENCE.
12:02:27PM SIGNS AROUND IT.
12:02:28PM I AGREE WITH JOE, WE DON'T WANT TO BULLY THE ACCARDIS.
12:02:31PM THEY ARE BUSINESSES INTO MAKING MONEY.
12:02:33PM I UNDERSTAND THAT AND RESPECT THAT.
12:02:34PM THERE ARE OTHER WAYS THAT -- OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN TALK
12:02:37PM ABOUT WITH THE ACCARDIS OR WITHOUT.
12:02:40PM ALSO THE CODE.
12:02:40PM I LOOKED UP CODES.
12:02:41PM I ALSO CONTACTED A LOT OF PEOPLE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL
12:02:44PM WHEN IT COMES TO PRESERVATION AND THEY SUGGESTED SOME THINGS
12:02:47PM WE CAN DO BECAUSE SEE THIS AS -- ALL RIGHT.

12:02:51PM TIME UP.
12:02:52PM THANK YOU.
12:02:54PM HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND PROBABLY ALL TALK ABOUT
12:02:56PM THIS AT ANOTHER TIME.
12:02:58PM THANK YOU.
12:02:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:02:59PM DR. COLLINS.
12:03:06PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
12:03:07PM I'M CAROLYN COLLINS.
12:03:12PM I CHAIR THE JACKSON HOUSE BOARD.
12:03:14PM I'VE BEEN CHAIRING IT FOR WELL OVER TEN, HOWEVER LONG.
12:03:19PM AND I MAKE SO MUCH MONEY.
12:03:21PM I'LL GIVE YOU GUYS MONEY IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
12:03:24PM EVERYBODY CALL ME AND SAID HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU MAKE FOR
12:03:27PM THE HOURS THAT YOU PUT IN?
12:03:28PM I WANT TO MAKE ONE THING CLEAR NOW, THE JACKSON HOUSE BOARD
12:03:33PM HAS BEEN MEETING SINCE WILLIE ROBINSON AND I SAT ON HIS
12:03:37PM FRONT PORCH AND GAVE ME THE DESIRES OF HIMSELF AND HIS
12:03:42PM MOTHER.
12:03:42PM AND I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL TO ALL OF THE MEMBERS
12:03:47PM THAT ARE UP THERE, EVEN THOSE THAT ARE NOW GONE AND TO THE
12:03:49PM NEW MEMBERS I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH.
12:03:52PM IF ANY EFFORTS ARE PUT TOGETHER, I'VE HAD MORE PEOPLE
12:03:58PM CALLING ME SAYING, CRA DOWNTOWN SHOULD LEND IT SOMETHING.
12:04:03PM I THINK SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WHEN YOU HAD TO PUT

12:04:06PM THE BLUE TARP ON AND I AGREE WITH THE GROUP THAT DID IT
12:04:09PM BECAUSE WILLIE'S MOTHER WAS ABUSED BY SO MANY PEOPLE THAT
12:04:12PM SHE PAID FOR TO DO THE ROOF AND IT WASN'T DONE.
12:04:16PM THE INTERVIEW FROM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC LIBRARY.
12:04:21PM OF WILLIE'S MOTHER, OF THAT 1901 HOUSE THAT WAS BUILT FOR
12:04:27PM THE FAMILY AND THEN BECAME A TWO-STORY HOUSE AND SERVED AS A
12:04:31PM BOARDING HOUSE, SO TO SPEAK.
12:04:33PM THIS BOARD, AND I WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM, THE BOARD ARE
12:04:37PM MOSTLY WORKING PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE A SINCERE AND DEDICATED
12:04:41PM COMMITMENT, SAID, LOOK, YOU CAN GO AND SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF,
12:04:46PM BUT MAKE SURE YOU LET US KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
12:04:49PM FOR THE LAST TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO
12:04:52PM WORK WITH THE ACCARDIS, AND THEY HAVE WORKED WITH US.
12:04:56PM BUT WE REACHED AN IMPASSE BECAUSE OF THE EASEMENT WE NEED ON
12:05:03PM BOTH SIDES, A BELIEF WE NEED IT FOR PARKING.
12:05:06PM NO, WE DON'T NEED IT FOR PARKING.
12:05:07PM THE CITY STAFF WORKING WITH TOLD US WHAT WE NEED IT FOR.
12:05:12PM I WON'T GO INTO THAT.
12:05:13PM I WANT TO MAKE THIS CLEAR.
12:05:15PM MANY PEOPLE HAVE WORKED AND SAY THEY WERE WORKING FOR THE
12:05:17PM JACKSON HOUSE, THEY HAVE NOT.
12:05:19PM WE ONLY RECEIVED THE ONE MILLION.
12:05:21PM THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT IT WAS ONE BECAUSE WE NEVER
12:05:24PM GOT IT.
12:05:24PM IF WE DID, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS.

12:05:26PM IT'S NOT ON OUR BOOKS.
12:05:28PM OUR BOOKS ARE BEING RECORDED DOWN BY THE HISTORY CENTER.
12:05:31PM THAT'S WHERE OUR MONEY AND THEN A LITTLE MONEY HERE WITH THE
12:05:35PM CITY AND WE HAVE MONEY THAT LES MILLER GOT FOR US WITH THE
12:05:38PM COUNTY AND WE'LL KEEP GETTING MONEY.
12:05:40PM CALLS FOR FEDERAL DOLLARS.
12:05:42PM SO WE'RE GOING TO REBUILD THE JACKSON HOUSE.
12:05:45PM WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IT AT 851 ZACK STREET WHERE IT IS NOW.
12:05:49PM IF WE CAN'T PUT IT AT 851 ZACK, WE'RE GOING TO OLD ADDRESS.
12:05:56PM IT ORIGINALLY WAS AT 835 ZACK STREET.
12:05:59PM SO WHEN THE HOUSE CHANGED, WHEN CODES CHANGED AND CAME ON,
12:06:03PM WE'VE BEEN DOING WORK.
12:06:04PM THANK GOD FOR THE PEOPLE UP AT THE STATE WHO WORKED WITH ME,
12:06:07PM YOU GUYS WOULDN'T HAVE THE PROBLEM IN MIAMI, JACKSONVILLE,
12:06:10PM AND ORLANDO.
12:06:10PM THE CITY WORKS BETTER WITH YOU.
12:06:12PM SO ALL I'M ASKING IS WORK WITH US.
12:06:16PM WE ARE WORKING WITH THE CITY.
12:06:18PM WE ARE RESPECTING THEM.
12:06:19PM DONE IT TWO YEARS AND NOW THEY COME IN AND HAVEN'T HAD IT
12:06:23PM SIX MONTHS.
12:06:24PM WHATEVER THEY COME WITH, WE'LL LISTEN TO THEM AND WORK WITH
12:06:26PM THEM.
12:06:27PM BUT IF IT DOESN'T WORK, FOLKS, IF WE LOSE THE HISTORICAL
12:06:31PM DESIGNATION AND WE HAVE TO BUILD A BRICK HOUSE AND PUT A

12:06:33PM FACADE ON IT AS A REPLICA OF THE JACKSON HOUSE, DO KNOW THAT
12:06:38PM THE JACKSON HOUSE WILL BE REBUILT, AND WE CAN'T WAIT ANY
12:06:42PM LONGER BEFORE THE HOUSE FALLS DOWN AND IT IS ON ITS WAY
12:06:45PM DOWN.
12:06:46PM THANKS FOR THE GENTLEMAN THAT SIT IN THIS AUDIENCE WHO
12:06:48PM ACTUALLY DID THE FIRST STABILIZATION AND THANKS TO THE MONEY
12:06:51PM THAT WE GOT SUBSEQUENT TO THAT WHEN EVERYONE CAME TOGETHER
12:06:55PM AND WE DID -- THE HOUSE STABILIZED TWICE.
12:06:58PM IF IT FALL DOWN, WE'LL STILL SEE THE STRUCTURE FROM THE
12:07:02PM INSIDE.
12:07:02PM THE SIDE FALL DOWN, THE WINDOWS FALL OUT, DOORS FALL OUT,
12:07:08PM BUT WE APPRECIATE THOSE WORKING WITH US.
12:07:10PM AND IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK.
12:07:12PM IT IS NOT A CHEAP TASK.
12:07:14PM AND THE JACKSON HOUSE BOARD DESERVES THE RESPECT THAT I'M
12:07:17PM GOING TO GIVE THEM TODAY TO LET EACH OF YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE
12:07:20PM BEEN WORKING, AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD.
12:07:22PM I THANK EVERYBODY, THE VINIKS, THE COMMUNITY FOLKS, THE CITY
12:07:27PM COUNCIL, THE COUNTY COMMISSION, THE HISTORY CENTER, AND OUR
12:07:30PM BOARD AND THIS COMMUNITY.
12:07:31PM HOUSE IS GOING TO BE BUILT.
12:07:32PM WE MADE THAT DECISION DECEMBER OF 2022.
12:07:35PM IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT REGARDLESS.
12:07:38PM AFTER THAT TIME, IT HAS GONE INTO THE HANDS OF THE CITY AND
12:07:41PM WE HOPE WE'LL HEAR A GREAT SOLUTION, MOVE WHAT THEY SAY, BUT

12:07:45PM IF NOT, WE'LL LOSE THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION THAT WILLIE
12:07:49PM AND HIS MOTHER DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE.
12:07:51PM WE'VE ALREADY BEEN TOLD BY THE STATE WE'LL LOSE IT.
12:07:53PM DO A BRICK HOUSE, FACADE ON THE OUTSIDE, DO A REPLICA.
12:07:56PM THANK YOU FOR WHATEVER YOU CAN DO TO HELP.
12:07:59PM PLEASE VOTE TO ALLOW THE CITY TO WORK WITH US WITH THE
12:08:01PM ACCARDIS TO SEE IF WE CAN MAINTAIN THE HISTORICAL
12:08:05PM DESIGNATION.
12:08:05PM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
12:08:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:08:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- I HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO THE ADMINISTRATION
12:08:17PM ABOUT THIS AT ALL.
12:08:18PM I THINK THERE IS A MOVEMENT TO COME TO CONSENSUS IN THE VERY
12:08:22PM NEAR FUTURE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS.
12:08:24PM I THINK IT'S NOT ONLY A TWO-PARTY SYSTEM, MAYBE A
12:08:26PM THREE-PARTY SYSTEM.
12:08:27PM BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
12:08:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:08:31PM I GOT ELECTED ON A TUESDAY IN 2015 AND THE FIRST MEETING I
12:08:34PM HAD WAS THAT FOLLOWING MONDAY, I HAD ORIENTATION HERE.
12:08:37PM AT MY FIRST MEETING BEFORE WAS 8:00 WITH MAYOR BUCKHORN AND
12:08:40PM THE FIRST THING I MENTIONED WAS THE JACKSON HOUSE.
12:08:42PM I'VE BEEN FASCINATED WITH THAT HOUSE FOREVER AND WE ALL KNOW
12:08:45PM THE IMPORTANCE OF IT.
12:08:47PM I THINK IN TODAY'S REPORT, I THINK IT WILL BE WELCOMING NEWS

12:08:51PM WITH GOOD SOLUTIONS HOPEFULLY, AND WE CAN GET THE BALL
12:08:54PM ROLLING ON RESTORING AND RESURRECTING THIS HOUSE.
12:08:58PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:08:59PM ITEM NUMBER 5.
12:09:01PM THE TREE ON SANTIAGO.
12:09:05PM IS THERE ANYBODY HERE FOR THE ITEM NUMBER 5?
12:09:11PM MR. BHIDE, I SEE YOU.
12:09:13PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:09:14PM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD MORNING CHAIR, GOOD MORNING COUNCIL.
12:09:17PM VIK BHIDE DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO ADDRESS ITEM 5,
12:09:22PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
12:09:24PM CARLSON, RELATED TO THE SIDEWALK ON SANTIAGO BY BAYSHORE.
12:09:34PM A MEMO TO THAT EFFECT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.
12:09:36PM THE REQUEST WAS TO REVIEW ALL OF THE OPTIONS THAT WE'VE
12:09:42PM TAKEN A LOOK AT BEFORE LANDING ON THE DECISION THAT WE HAVE
12:09:47PM REGARDING CONSTRUCTION OF THE SIDEWALK.
12:09:50PM THE MEMO DETAILS MATERIALS, MEANS, OTHER TYPE OF
12:09:57PM CONSIDERATIONS LIKE CHICANES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND WHY WE
12:10:01PM ARRIVED AT THE DECISION THAT WE DID.
12:10:04PM I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
12:10:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BHIDE, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR
12:10:08PM ANYBODY, BUT WE HEARD FROM PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:10:10PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE GOING TO SAY.
12:10:13PM IT APPEARS THAT NOBODY WANTS THIS SIDEWALK.
12:10:15PM I HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY HERE SAY LEAVE THE SIDEWALK.

12:10:17PM PEOPLE DON'T WANT THE SIDEWALK.
12:10:19PM BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S UP TO RELATED TO PUT
12:10:23PM IN THAT REQUEST NOT TO HAVE TO BUILD THE SIDEWALK, IS THAT
12:10:26PM CORRECT?
12:10:28PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO THE DEVELOPER CAN REQUEST AND LEGAL I SEE
12:10:33PM SUSAN IS AVAILABLE TO ADDRESS THIS AS WELL, BUT THE
12:10:37PM DEVELOPER CAN REQUEST THE MODIFICATION TO COUNCIL'S DECISION
12:10:42PM FROM LAST YEAR.
12:10:44PM BUT I'LL LET SUSAN RESPOND ON THAT.
12:10:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ, IS IT THAT EASY?
12:10:51PM NO ONE HAS COME HERE TODAY, AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED A CALL OR
12:10:55PM E-MAIL SAYING PLEASE LEAVE THE SIDEWALK, WHAT IS THE PATH TO
12:10:59PM GETTING THIS CHANGED?
12:11:00PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:11:02PM YES, MR. BHIDE WAS CORRECT THAT.
12:11:06PM THE DEVELOPER HAS ZONING ENTITLEMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED IN
12:11:10PM A SITE PLAN BY CITY COUNCIL.
12:11:12PM THEY ALSO HAVE BUILDING PERMITS THAT THE CITY HAS ISSUED.
12:11:15PM ANY CHANGE TO THOSE ENTITLEMENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE INITIATED
12:11:19PM BY RELATED AND NOT BY THE CITY BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE THOSE
12:11:22PM ENTITLEMENTS AND THEY ARE ENTITLED TO BUILD IN ACCORDANCE
12:11:25PM WITH THE APPROVALS THAT THE CITY HAS PREVIOUSLY GIVEN THEM.
12:11:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SAW I THINK TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM
12:11:30PM RELATED.
12:11:31PM I SEE THEM IN THE BACK.

12:11:33PM CAN I ASK THEM TO COME UP AND SEE IF THEY WOULD BE AMENABLE
12:11:37PM TO REQUESTING THAT CHANGE AND GO FROM THERE?
12:11:39PM SIR, I SEE YOU COMING UP.
12:11:50PM >> HELLO.
12:11:51PM KURT DRSTVENSEK WITH THE RELATED GROUP AND MY COLLEAGUE HERE
12:11:57PM AS WELL.
12:11:57PM OUR PLAN AND AS APPROVED WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE WITH THE
12:12:06PM SIDEWALK AS DESIGNED AND PERMITTED AND CONTINUE ON WITH THE
12:12:08PM CONSTRUCTION.
12:12:09PM WE USED A LOT OF RESOURCES TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS.
12:12:12PM THROUGH OUR CONSULTANTS AND WITH HELP FROM THE CITY AND
12:12:15PM STAFF, AND FELT WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IS THE BEST SOLUTION
12:12:18PM TO MAINTAIN THAT SIDEWALK THERE.
12:12:20PM I FEEL A LOT OF NEIGHBORS AND FOLKS FROM NOT ONLY THE
12:12:24PM RESIDENCES WE'RE BUILDING BUT IN THE COMMUNITY WILL USE THE
12:12:27PM SIDEWALKS.
12:12:28PM UNFORTUNATELY, NOBODY SPOKE ON THAT BEHALF TODAY, BUT WE DO
12:12:30PM THINK IT IS A SOLUTION AND OBVIOUSLY THE TREES ARE IMPORTANT
12:12:33PM TO US, BUT WE'D LIKE TO JUST CONTINUE WITH THE ORIGINAL
12:12:35PM PLAN.
12:12:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT NOBODY WANTS IT.
12:12:39PM THAT'S THE THING.
12:12:40PM NO ONE MAY HAVE NOT BEEN HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
12:12:45PM IT, I KNOW YOU HAVE THE RESIDENCES BEING BUILT ACROSS THE
12:12:49PM STREET TO THE HOMEOWNER, THE RESPECT OF THE AGE OF THE TREE,

12:12:56PM YOU HEARD PASSIONATE COMMUNICATION FROM THE FOLKS IN THE
12:12:58PM AREA, THEY DON'T WANT IT.
12:12:59PM PEOPLE HATE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE IT'S SO COMPLICATED, JUST
12:13:05PM DON'T BUILD THE SIDEWALK.
12:13:06PM >> WE HAVE A SIDEWALK NOW THAT JUST ENDS.
12:13:08PM PROBABLY AN UNSAFE CONDITION.
12:13:10PM I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON HOW THAT WORKS IN COMPLIANCE WITH CITY
12:13:13PM REGULATIONS AND SO ON.
12:13:14PM WE'VE WORKED WITH MANY REPRESENTATIVES HERE TO SORT OF COME
12:13:18PM UP WITH OTHER SOLUTIONS TO WHAT WAS DESIGNED AND TWEAKS I
12:13:23PM THINK IS WHAT IS IN YOUR PACKAGE WE BELIEVE IS THE BEST,
12:13:27PM SIMPLEST AND PROVIDES ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
12:13:29PM I UNDERSTAND SOME CONCERNED CITIZENS ABOUT THAT.
12:13:33PM OBVIOUSLY, TREES ARE IMPORTANT.
12:13:35PM WE DON'T DISAGREE TO THAT.
12:13:36PM THERE WERE SOME FACTUAL INACCURACIES I THINK WITH SOME
12:13:39PM THINGS THAT WERE SAID EARLIER TODAY.
12:13:41PM BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN THE PLAN AS PROVIDED, BUT IF
12:13:47PM THERE IS A SOLUTION OUT THERE, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR IT.
12:13:49PM BUT AFTER WORKING THROUGH EXPERTS ON YOUR SIDE AND OURS,
12:13:52PM THIS SEEMS TO BE THE BEST PLAN.
12:13:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WISH TO SPEAK?
12:13:57PM MR. MIRANDA.
12:13:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT QUESTIONING YOU.
12:14:00PM YOU DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO FOR YOURSELF AND FOR YOUR

12:14:03PM COMPANY.
12:14:03PM SITTING HERE JUST LISTENING TO THE WHOLE THING, THE SIMPLEST
12:14:07PM THING IS NOT TO HAVE A SIDEWALK, BUT YOU'RE INSISTING ON THE
12:14:10PM SIDEWALK REGARDLESS OF THE TREE.
12:14:12PM YOU ARE BENDING THE SIDEWALK TO AN ANGLE, SO FORTH AND SO
12:14:16PM ON.
12:14:17PM WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER TREES?
12:14:20PM >> WHICH OTHER TREES ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT?
12:14:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION.
12:14:24PM I'M NOT BEING SPECIFIC AT ALL.
12:14:28PM TALK IN GENERALITIES.
12:14:30PM MAYBE IN THE FUTURE I WON'T VOTE FOR A DAMN TREE GOING DOWN
12:14:34PM IN ANY BUILDING.
12:14:35PM THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT?
12:14:36PM >> NO.
12:14:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
12:14:38PM THAT'S IT.
12:14:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:14:39PM >> ARE WE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THE QUESTION HE ASKED?
12:14:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:14:43PM >> EARLIER TODAY IT WAS SAID THAT WE KILLED ALL GRAND OAKS
12:14:46PM ON 22 ACRES.
12:14:47PM OUR PROPERTY IS 4.65 ACRES.
12:14:49PM SO NOT CLAIMING A LIE.
12:14:52PM JUST WANT TO REPRESENT THE FACTS THE WAY THEY WERE.

12:14:55PM SAID KILLED ALL OUR GRAND TREES.
12:14:57PM THAT'S INACCURATE.
12:14:59PM PROMISED TO SAVE THREE GRAND TREES.
12:15:01PM ALL THREE GRAND TREES ARE THERE.
12:15:03PM YOU CAN TOUCH, FEEL, LOOK AT IT.
12:15:05PM ALL THREE ON BOTH OUR PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN SAVED.
12:15:08PM A LOT OF RESOURCES ARE GOING TOWARDS KEEPING THEM ALIVE.
12:15:11PM THEY ARE FENCED IN.
12:15:12PM THEY ARE WATERED.
12:15:13PM WE HAVE RETAINED AN ARBORIST WHO YOU CAN IMAGINE IS NOT
12:15:18PM CHEAP, MR. PETERIKA WHO VISITS THE SITE TO MAKE SURE ALL
12:15:23PM THREE TREES ARE SAFE.
12:15:25PM ALSO STATED THAT DESTROYING TREES IS THE BENEFIT FOR THE
12:15:28PM VIEWS.
12:15:28PM THE TOWNHOMES WERE NEVER TOLD WITH VIEWS.
12:15:30PM THEY ARE ON SANTIAGO.
12:15:31PM THEY DON'T HAVE A VIEW.
12:15:32PM THEY HAVE A BEAUTIFUL STREET THAT WE'RE PAVING.
12:15:35PM WE'RE REPLACING ALL THE TREES THAT WERE DESTROYED AND THERE
12:15:37PM WERE MANY WITH NEW TREES, DESIGNED BY A WORLD FAMOUS
12:15:41PM LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
12:15:42PM WE'LL BE REPLACING ALL THE TREES AND THEN SOME WHICH IS ALSO
12:15:45PM ON THE PD AND WILL BE APPARENT WHEN THE PROJECT IS DONE.
12:15:48PM LASTLY, THE 12 TOWNHOMES ARE SOLD.
12:15:51PM THERE'S NO NEED FOR ME TO DESTROY A TREE FOR ANY VIEW.

12:15:54PM I HAVE SOLD THE TOWNHOMES.
12:15:55PM THERE'S NO INCENTIVE FOR ME.
12:15:57PM WE DON'T ENJOY COMING UP HERE AND HAVING THESE ARGUMENTS.
12:16:01PM THERE'S ZERO INCENTIVE FOR US TO ATTACK ANY NEIGHBORS OR ANY
12:16:04PM TREE.
12:16:05PM THE SIDEWALK WAS INITIALLY PROPOSED BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY
12:16:08PM CONDITIONS AROUND BAYSHORE.
12:16:10PM YOU GUYS HAD MULTIPLE DEATHS AND TRAGEDIES CAUSED BY DRAG
12:16:14PM RACING AND WHATNOT BACK LAST TIME WE WERE IN COUNCIL AND
12:16:18PM ASKED FOR THE PD.
12:16:19PM IT WAS PROPOSED AND ASKED FOR BY THE CITY TO DO THE
12:16:22PM SIDEWALK.
12:16:22PM WE SAID ABSOLUTELY.
12:16:23PM WE'RE DOING IT AT OUR COST.
12:16:24PM A LADY WAS HERE EARLIER ABOUT BUDGETS, WE'RE TAKING SOME OF
12:16:27PM THE STRESS OFF THE CITY TO PROVIDE A SAFE SIDEWALK AND DOING
12:16:30PM IT IN A WAY SAFEST FOR THE TREE AS WELL.
12:16:33PM I STATED EARLIER, SPEND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON THE
12:16:37PM DESIGN OF THE SIDEWALK AND THE WAY WE'LL IMPLEMENT IT AND,
12:16:39PM OF COURSE, THE MONITORING.
12:16:40PM ONCE WE BUILD THE SIDEWALK, WE DON'T DISAPPEAR.
12:16:42PM WE'RE MONITORING IT WITH RICKY AND WE'VE COMMITTED TO THAT
12:16:44PM AND HAVE CONTRACTS, ET CETERA.
12:16:46PM OF COURSE, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR NEED ANY WRITTEN
12:16:49PM PROOF OR LIKE TO COME VISIT THE SITE TO SEE THE TREES

12:16:52PM ALLEGEDLY DESTROYED, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO.
12:16:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:16:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, JUST IT'S PAST 60 DAYS.
12:17:02PM I VOTED AGAINST THIS PROJECT TWICE.
12:17:05PM PART OF IT WAS ABOUT THE TREES.
12:17:08PM PART OF IT WAS THAT IT'S 23 FEET FROM THE NEIGHBORING.
12:17:11PM I'M GETTING COMPLAINTS EVERY DAY NOW ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS
12:17:15PM ADJACENT SAYING WHY WAS CITY COUNCIL SO STUPID, THIS IS WHAT
12:17:18PM THEY ARE TELLING ME, TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT'S 23 FEET
12:17:21PM AWAY?
12:17:21PM AT LEAST WHEN YOU STARTED YOU HAD A GREAT ARCHITECT.
12:17:25PM PUTTING IN GREAT ART.
12:17:27PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
12:17:28PM WE'VE HAD SO MANY COMPLAINTS.
12:17:31PM UNFORTUNATELY, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT SAYS WE DON'T HAVE ANY
12:17:33PM LEGAL RECOURSE AT THIS POINT.
12:17:36PM GIVEN THE ENTITLEMENT.
12:17:37PM IF YOU ALL WANT IT, YOU CAN DO IT AND WE CAN'T STOP IT.
12:17:41PM I WOULD SAY WITH THE BAD FEELINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ABOUT
12:17:45PM THIS PROJECT, THE BAD PRESS ABOUT THIS, THE WEST RIVER
12:17:47PM PROJECT, THE ROME YARD PROJECT AND OTHERS, I KNOW YOU GUYS
12:17:50PM ARE SILOED ON PROJECTS, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT TO START TO
12:17:55PM BUILD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY, YOU ALL SHOULD
12:17:59PM TRY TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
12:18:01PM I KNOW WHO YOUR LOBBYISTS ARE AND THEY ARE GIVING YOU BAD

12:18:06PM ADVICE ON WHAT YOU SHOULD DO IN REGARD TO THE CITY.
12:18:09PM THE PEOPLE YOU'RE LISTENING TO DON'T HAVE INFLUENCE IN THE
12:18:11PM CITY ANYMORE AND THEY ARE LEADING YOU ASTRAY.
12:18:14PM THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY CONTROL THE CITY NOW.
12:18:16PM THE NEIGHBORHOODS REPRESENT THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY, AND I
12:18:19PM WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU ALL LISTEN TO THEM.
12:18:21PM AND AFTER YOU DISAPPOINTED THEM SO MANY TIMES THAT YOU TRY
12:18:25PM TO DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN THEIR INTEREST.
12:18:27PM THANK YOU.
12:18:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M BASICALLY GOING TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN
12:18:31PM CARLSON SAID.
12:18:32PM IT JUST SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING LIKE NOT BUILDING A SIDEWALK
12:18:35PM FOR A COMPANY THAT'S BUILDING SO MUCH IN THE CITY AND WISHES
12:18:38PM TO BUILD MORE WOULD WANT TO GARNER SOME PUBLIC SUPPORT FOR
12:18:47PM THESE THINGS.
12:18:48PM PLEASE LET ME FINISH MY STATEMENT.
12:18:51PM I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING SO
12:18:56PM SIMPLE THAT WE ARE SIMPLY ASKING, HEY, MAYBE LET'S NOT
12:18:59PM FINISH THE SIDEWALK.
12:19:02PM LET'S JUST LET PEOPLE USE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SIDEWALK,
12:19:06PM WHICH IS WHAT A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID.
12:19:08PM THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN A TREE THAT HAS BROUGHT
12:19:12PM SO MANY PEOPLE TO COUNCIL, E-MAILS FROM US, PHONE CALLS, I
12:19:17PM DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HEARD MR. MIRANDA SO WORKED UP ON
12:19:22PM SOMETHING, AND THAT MAN STICKS TO HIS WORD.

12:19:24PM >> WATER.
12:19:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WATER.
12:19:26PM OKAY, SURE.
12:19:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH.
12:19:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL AT LEAST.
12:19:30PM IT JUST SEEMS VERY NEAR-SIGHTED FOR YOU TO DIG YOUR HEELS IN
12:19:40PM ON SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A SIDEWALK WHEN THIS IS THE
12:19:43PM MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECT IS ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
12:19:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:19:47PM ANYBODY ELSE?
12:19:47PM YES, MA'AM.
12:19:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HELLO.
12:19:50PM I THINK WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS JUST THIS, BECAUSE IT'S COME
12:19:57PM TO COUNCIL SO MANY TIMES AND THE PUBLIC IS VERY PASSIONATE
12:20:00PM ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
12:20:02PM THERE IS THIS THING CALLED SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND
12:20:05PM CORPORATE CONSCIOUSNESS.
12:20:07PM AND YOU ALL HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY.
12:20:11PM YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE THE COUNCIL
12:20:14PM VOTED.
12:20:14PM YOU HAVE THE PERMITS, AS OUR ATTORNEY SAID.
12:20:17PM BUT IT GETS DOWN TO REALLY SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY AND
12:20:22PM CORPORATE CONSCIOUSNESS.
12:20:23PM I JUST THINK THAT YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THAT AND LISTEN TO
12:20:28PM WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS ASKED BECAUSE IT HAS HAPPENED.

12:20:31PM THEY HAVE COME SO MUCH AND THEY HAVE WRITTEN SO MANY
12:20:34PM LETTERS, AND I'M NEW ON COUNCIL.
12:20:35PM I'VE BEEN HERE 90, A HUNDRED DAYS, AND THIS IS A VERY
12:20:39PM PASSIONATE ISSUE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR TREE.
12:20:43PM THE ONES YOU HAVE TORN DOWN, BULLDOZED FOR YOUR PROJECT, WE
12:20:47PM CAN'T GO BACK AND FIX THAT.
12:20:50PM YOU SAY YOU'LL BUILD A BEAUTIFUL TREE CANOPY TO PUT TREES
12:20:53PM BACK ON YOUR PROPERTY, BUT THIS PARTICULAR TREE, YEAH, THIS
12:20:59PM IS JUST NOT -- IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD IDEA.
12:21:02PM LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
12:21:04PM EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO DO WHAT IT IS YOU WANT
12:21:08PM TO DO LEGALLY.
12:21:10PM YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT.
12:21:11PM IT'S JUST BEEN TOO MUCH NOISE ABOUT IT.
12:21:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN COUNCILMAN
12:21:15PM CARLSON.
12:21:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:21:17PM YEAH, I ECHO WHAT'S BEEN SAID IN THE SENSE AS A COMPANY
12:21:21PM DOING A LOT OF WORK HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT'S KIND OF
12:21:24PM JUST COMMON SENSE.
12:21:25PM YOU ALL SAID THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KEEP THE
12:21:28PM SIDEWALK WHO MAY NOT BE HERE, BUT WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM
12:21:31PM THEM.
12:21:32PM AND THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT REALLY DOES SPEAK OUT ITS MIND.
12:21:35PM WHEN WE HEAR SUCH OVERABUNDANCE OF STATEMENTS IN FAVOR OF

12:21:39PM THE TREE WITH, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NONE IN FAVOR OF
12:21:42PM THE SIDEWALK, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT FOR US IS COMPELLING ON
12:21:45PM AN ISSUE LIKE THIS.
12:21:47PM SO THERE IS GOOD CITIZENSHIP ON AN ISSUE LIKE THIS, THAT IF
12:21:52PM IT CAN BE PRESERVED TO PLEASE DO IT.
12:21:54PM AGAIN, THE COMMUNITY IS SPEAKING OUT WITH A LOT OF VIGOR ON
12:21:57PM IT.
12:21:58PM AGAIN, IF THERE ARE FOLKS SAYING OTHERWISE, WE HAVEN'T HEARD
12:22:00PM FROM THEM.
12:22:01PM WE GO BY THAT ON THESE TYPES OF ISSUES.
12:22:06PM THANK YOU.
12:22:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:22:08PM NO.
12:22:08PM ALL RIGHT.
12:22:09PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:22:09PM ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
12:22:10PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:22:11PM ITEM NUMBER 6, 7, 8, WE'LL DO THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN
12:22:17PM BREAK FOR LUNCH.
12:22:18PM WHO HAS NUMBER 6?
12:22:22PM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
12:22:24PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
12:22:27PM COUNCIL, ITEM NUMBER 6 IS BEFORE YOU.
12:22:30PM THIS IS A CORRECTION, A SCRIVENER'S ERROR TO THE SITE PLAN
12:22:36PM WHICH WAS ATTACHED TO THE ORIGINAL ADDRESS.

12:22:39PM 5411 WEST TYSON AVENUE.
12:22:41PM AND THIS IS ORDINANCE 2022-106.
12:22:46PM AGAIN, THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR FIRST READING.
12:22:48PM AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
12:22:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
12:22:52PM HEARING NONE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, READ ITEM NUMBER 6.
12:23:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: REZ 22-23, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING
12:23:07PM ORDINANCE 2022-106 WHICH REZONED PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
12:23:10PM VICINITY OF 5411 WEST TYSON AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
12:23:15PM FLORIDA, IN ORDER TO CORRECT SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE SITE
12:23:18PM PLAN ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT B TO SAID ORDINANCE, PROVIDING AN
12:23:22PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:23:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:23:26PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:23:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:23:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
12:23:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:23:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:23:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:23:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:23:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:23:33PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:23:35PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER
12:23:37PM 21st, 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
12:23:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

12:23:41PM ITEM NUMBER 7.
12:23:44PM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:23:45PM MICHELLE VAN LOAN, REAL ESTATE.
12:23:46PM ITEM NUMBER 7 IS YOUR FIRST READING, LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS
12:23:50PM PROVIDED THE ORDINANCE.
12:23:50PM IT'S FOR A STREET RENAMING FOR SALVADOR MARTINEZ Ybor at
12:23:57PM the southwest corner of east 9th avenue and north 19th
12:23:58PM Street in front of the Ybor City museum.
12:24:00PM We have received no additional comment.
12:24:02PM I'm here to answer any questions.
12:24:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: Any questions?
12:24:04PM Councilman Viera, thank you for bringing this forward.
12:24:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: Yes, sir.
12:24:09PM I'll read it.
12:24:10PM Before I do, thank you, Michelle, for all your hard work and
12:24:13PM everyone in the city.
12:24:14PM Salvador Martinez Ybor is a gentleman who very few really
12:24:19PM know what he was about.
12:24:20PM The founder of Ybor City's grandson who gave up a
12:24:24PM comfortable life in Cuba to return to the United States, his
12:24:27PM homeland after Pearl Harbor and gave his life for the
12:24:30PM country in 1945.
12:24:31PM And yet very little is known about him day to day from the
12:24:35PM people of Tampa.
12:24:37PM And I think that's injustice.

12:24:39PM SO MY GREAT PLEASURE TO DO THIS.
12:24:41PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
12:24:43PM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE
12:24:46PM PLACEMENT OF AN HONORARY STREET NAMING SIGN AT THE
12:24:49PM INTERSECTION OF 9th AVENUE AND 19th STREET IN YBOR CITY,
12:24:52PM FLORIDA, TO HONOR SALVADOR MARTINEZ YBOR; PROVIDING AN
12:24:55PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:24:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:24:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
12:24:57PM MIRANDA.
12:24:58PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:24:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:24:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:25:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:25:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:25:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
12:25:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:25:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:25:05PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:25:07PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 21,
12:25:10PM 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
12:25:15PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: ITEM 8 IS A STREET NAMING SIGN FOR
12:25:19PM MICHAEL PHILLIPS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF SAN JOSE AND
12:25:21PM NORTH HIMES, PER OUR DISCUSSION ON 7/27 WHEN WE HEARD FROM
12:25:23PM MRS. PHILLIPS ALSO.

12:25:27PM AGAIN, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
12:25:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
12:25:29PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, DO THE HONORS.
12:25:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ASKED TO READ 8 BECAUSE, ONE, I WAS
12:25:34PM PERSONAL FRIENDS WITH MICHAEL PHILLIPS AND HIS MOTHER.
12:25:37PM I WILL SAY THAT HE WAS AN INCREDIBLE YOUNG MAN WHO WAS AN
12:25:41PM ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
12:25:43PM HIS MOTHER HAS CARRIED ON THAT TORCH.
12:25:48PM REALLY A GREAT PERSON TO HAVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO FIGHT
12:25:51PM FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND FOR FOLKS THAT CAN'T FIGHT FOR
12:25:55PM THEMSELVES.
12:25:55PM SO I'M HONORED TO READ THIS ORDINANCE.
12:25:58PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
12:26:00PM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, APPROVING THE
12:26:02PM PLACEMENT OF AN HONORARY STREET NAMING SIGN AT THE
12:26:06PM INTERSECTION OF HIMES AND SAN JOSE STREET IN TAMPA, FLORIDA,
12:26:14PM FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS TO HONOR MICHAEL PHILLIPS,
12:26:17PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:26:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:26:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:26:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:26:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:26:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
12:26:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:26:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.

12:26:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:26:25PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:26:27PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER
12:26:29PM 21st, 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
12:26:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:26:32PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU MOVE ITEMS 9 THROUGH 18 WITH THE
12:26:36PM EXCEPTION OF 17?
12:26:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
12:26:39PM IF I MAY, ALSO CLARIFY A PRIVATE CONVERSATION I HAD WITH
12:26:41PM MS. VAN LOAN WHERE IT SAYS FOR TWO YEARS, IT MEANS AFTER
12:26:45PM THAT, OTHER PEOPLE MAY HAVE THAT.
12:26:46PM BUT REST ASSURED, IF WE DO HAVE TO MOVE THAT, I WILL
12:26:50PM SOMEWHERE ELSE WILL BE NAMED AFTER MIKE PHILLIPS, JUST FOR
12:26:53PM THE RECORD.
12:26:53PM BECAUSE I SAW THAT IN THERE.
12:26:56PM IF I MAY, MOVE ITEMS 9 THROUGH 16 AND 18.
12:27:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:27:01PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:27:02PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:27:03PM AYE.
12:27:03PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:27:04PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:27:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: ITEM NUMBER 22, MY FIRM HAS A BUSINESS
12:27:11PM RELATIONSHIP WITH AN ENTITY THAT MAY BE RELATED TO THIS,
12:27:16PM ITEM NUMBER 22.

12:27:17PM IN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF AND FILE
12:27:20PM THE PAPERWORK NEXT WEEK.
12:27:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHAIRWOMAN HENDERSON, IF YOU COULD MOVE
12:27:24PM ITEMS 19 THROUGH 21 AND THEN 23 THROUGH 49.
12:27:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, ABSOLUTELY CHAIR.
12:27:29PM I MOVE ITEMS 19 THROUGH 21 AND I MOVE ITEMS 23 THROUGH 49.
12:27:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:27:41PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:27:42PM AYE.
12:27:42PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, STEP OUT.
12:27:46PM ITEM NUMBER 22, SEPARATE VOTE.
12:27:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE FILE NUMBER PR -- I CAN JUST SAY --
12:27:59PM I MOVE FILE ITEM NUMBER 22.
12:28:01PM THANK YOU.
12:28:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:28:04PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
12:28:05PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:28:06PM AYE.
12:28:06PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:28:07PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU CAN COME BACK IN.
12:28:10PM CHAIRWOMAN HURTAK, IF YOU MOVE ITEMS 50 THROUGH 60.
12:28:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I MOVE ITEMS 50 THROUGH 60.
12:28:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FROM
12:28:23PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:28:24PM ALL IN FAVOR?

12:28:25PM AYE.
12:28:25PM 61 WILL BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
12:28:28PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU ARE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
12:28:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 62-67.
12:28:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, SECONDED
12:28:36PM BY VIERA.
12:28:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:28:37PM AYE.
12:28:38PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:28:38PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, 68 THROUGH 83.
12:28:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, MOVE 68 THROUGH 83.
12:28:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:28:45PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
12:28:46PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:28:47PM AYE.
12:28:48PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:28:49PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, 84 THROUGH 88.
12:28:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE ITEMS 84 THROUGH 88.
12:28:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:28:55PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
12:28:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:28:56PM AYE.
12:28:57PM ALL RIGHT.
12:28:59PM BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO SET 89,
12:29:03PM 90, AND 91 FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING?

12:29:05PM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:29:08PM SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:29:10PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:29:10PM AYE.
12:29:11PM ALL RIGHT.
12:29:12PM WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 2:00.
12:29:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE TO LEAVE HERE AT ABOUT 5:05 FOR MY
12:29:20PM SON'S JOB.
12:29:21PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE'LL GO THAT LONG, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD.
12:29:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL GO THAT LONG.
12:29:26PM I'LL REQUEST THAT I GET A RIDE HOME FROM SOMEONE.
12:29:31PM [LUNCH RECESS]
2:03:50PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
2:04:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD AFTERNOON.
2:04:31PM I'D LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING BACK TO
2:04:34PM ORDER.
2:04:34PM IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
2:04:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
2:04:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
2:04:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
2:04:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
2:04:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
2:04:43PM >> MIRANDA?
2:04:43PM MANISCALCO?
2:04:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.

2:04:45PM >>THE CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
2:04:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:04:48PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS?
2:04:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO MOVED.
2:04:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:04:53PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
2:04:54PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:04:55PM AYE.
2:04:55PM ANY OPPOSED.
2:04:56PM WE'LL SWEAR IN THE FOLKS WHEN WE GET ITEM 100.
2:05:03PM WE'LL START WITH THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT.
2:05:06PM >> McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
2:05:10PM ITEM NUMBER 92 IS THE ANNUAL ADOPTION OF THE STORMWATER
2:05:19PM SERVICE ASSESSMENT.
2:05:21PM NO WRITTEN OBJECTIONS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.
2:05:22PM SO THERE'S NOTHING TO RECEIVE AND FILE ON THIS ONE.
2:05:25PM BUT AS USUAL, WITH THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT HEARINGS,
2:05:28PM PLEASE REMEMBER TO TAKE THE VOTE WHILE THE HEARING IS STILL
2:05:31PM OPEN.
2:05:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
2:05:32PM ANY QUESTIONS?
2:05:32PM YES, SIR.
2:05:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD YOU PLEASE, WE'VE HAD SOME FOLKS GIVE
2:05:37PM FEEDBACK THAT THEY THINK THAT ONE OR MORE OF THESE BETWEEN
2:05:48PM 92 AND 98 -- WELL, 99, SOME FOLKS THINK SOME OF THEM ARE

2:05:53PM INCREASING THE TAX OR NEW TAX.
2:05:55PM JUST SO I DON'T HAVE TO ASK TEN TIMES, MAYBE AT THE
2:05:59PM BEGINNING STATE THAT THIS IS NOT A NEW FEE OR TAX AND NOT AN
2:06:03PM INCREASE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO ASK THAT.
2:06:07PM APPARENTLY IN THE CASE OF ONE OF THEM, SOMEONE EVEN ALERTED
2:06:12PM A TV STATION ABOUT IT.
2:06:13PM IS THAT OKAY?
2:06:15PM >> CERTAINLY, YES, SIR.
2:06:15PM I WILL BE PRESENTING THE STORMWATER ONES.
2:06:17PM MY COLLEAGUE, JUSTIN VASKE WILL BE PRESENTING SOME OF THE
2:06:23PM OTHERS.
2:06:24PM I DO BELIEVE ONE OF THE STREETLIGHT ASSESSMENTS ARE NEW.
2:06:27PM HOWEVER, THOSE ARE UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT THOSE PARTIES
2:06:29PM VOLUNTEERED FOR THE ASSESSMENT RATHER THAN PAY A LUMP SUM UP
2:06:33PM FRONT.
2:06:34PM SO THEY ARE DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT.
2:06:36PM THIS IS -- THE STORMWATER SERVICE ASSESSMENT IS A CITYWIDE
2:06:41PM ASSESSMENT.
2:06:43PM IT HAS NOT CHANGED IN COST PER SU AND HAS BEEN ASSESSED IN
2:06:52PM ONE SHAPE OR ANOTHER SINCE 2003, AS CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO
2:06:56PM MENTIONED, THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN 2016, BUT NOT SINCE THEN
2:07:00PM ON THIS ASSESSMENT.
2:07:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
2:07:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
2:07:03PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

2:07:05PM THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 92 REGARDING THE STORMWATER SERVICE
2:07:08PM ASSESSMENT?
2:07:08PM LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY REGISTERED.
2:07:13PM NO.
2:07:14PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE --
2:07:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
2:07:17PM WE CAN'T CLOSE IT.
2:07:18PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
2:07:20PM >> SO MOVED.
2:07:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
2:07:22PM VIERA WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:07:24PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:07:24PM AYE.
2:07:25PM NOW DO WE MOVE TO CLOSE?
2:07:30PM >> YOU MAY CLOSE, YES.
2:07:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY VIERA, SECOND BY
2:07:33PM MIRANDA.
2:07:34PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:07:34PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:07:35PM YES, MA'AM.
2:07:36PM 93.
2:07:37PM >> McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY BEFORE YOU IS
2:07:41PM ITEM 93 TODAY, THE ANNUAL ADOPTION OF THE STORMWATER CAPITAL
2:07:44PM IMPROVEMENT NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL.
2:07:47PM THIS IS NOT A NEW ASSESSMENT.

2:07:49PM IT WAS ORIGINALLY ESTABLISHED IN 2016 FOR THE PURPOSE OF
2:07:53PM SERVING SOUTH AND CENTRAL CITY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS
2:07:59PM OVER A 30-YEAR PERIOD.
2:08:01PM IT WAS IN A GRADUATED RATE SYSTEM UNTIL 2021 AND IS NOW AT
2:08:06PM THE TOP RATE THAT IT WILL BE FOR THE REMAINDER.
2:08:09PM SO IT HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE 2021.
2:08:11PM ONE WRITTEN OBJECTION WAS RECEIVED IF COUNCIL WOULD PLEASE
2:08:16PM RECEIVE AND FILE.
2:08:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
2:08:19PM THAT OBJECTION, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, SECOND BY COUNCIL
2:08:21PM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:08:21PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:08:22PM AYE.
2:08:23PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:08:23PM YES, MA'AM.
2:08:25PM >> AGAIN, THIS IS A NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT HEARING,
2:08:28PM PLEASE TAKE THE VOTE WHILE THE HEARING IS OPEN.
2:08:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
2:08:31PM DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT?
2:08:32PM I SEE NO ONE.
2:08:33PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THAT RESOLUTION?
2:08:35PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:08:37PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:08:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:08:40PM AYE.

2:08:40PM THE NEXT ONE IS ITEM 94.
2:08:47PM OH, MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
2:08:48PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, SECOND BY VIERA.
2:08:52PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:08:52PM AYE.
2:08:52PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
2:08:55PM THIS IS IN REGARD TO ITEM NUMBER 94 ON THE AGENDA.
2:08:58PM WE ARE REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE
2:09:02PM NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT
2:09:08PM FOR STREETLIGHTS IN THE COMMUNITY PLACE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT
2:09:10PM DISTRICT, WHICH IS GENERALLY LOCATED BETWEEN NORTH FOREST
2:09:13PM HILLS DRIVE AND NORTH COMMUNITY PLACE BEING NORTH OF RAMBLA
2:09:17PM STREET SOUTH OF FOREST HILLS DRIVE EAST OF FOREST HILLS
2:09:20PM PLACE AND WEST OF WILLOW AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
2:09:22PM ONCE AGAIN, AS A REMINDER, APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION THAT
2:09:25PM ADOPTS THIS ASSESSMENT ROLL MUST OCCUR DURING THE HEARING.
2:09:29PM WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OBJECTIONS OR COMMENTS REGARDING
2:09:34PM THIS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.
2:09:35PM ALSO, KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS NEW.
2:09:37PM THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THIS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT FOR
2:09:41PM STREET LIGHTING.
2:09:42PM THAT WAS ALL.
2:09:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
2:09:44PM DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 94?
2:09:50PM NO ONE IS REGISTERED.

2:09:55PM ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION BY
2:09:57PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:09:59PM SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN?
2:10:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:10:01PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:10:02PM MOTION TO CLOSE.
2:10:03PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:10:05PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:10:06PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:10:07PM AYE.
2:10:07PM FOR ITEM NUMBER 95, WE DO HAVE AN APPLICANT REGISTERED
2:10:12PM ONLINE.
2:10:12PM YES, SIR, MR. VASKE.
2:10:15PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS WITH REGARDS TO ITEM
2:10:18PM NUMBER 95.
2:10:19PM NEW ASSESSMENT BECAUSE THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A STREETLIGHT
2:10:22PM SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.
2:10:23PM WE'RE REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE
2:10:26PM NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR A NON-AD VALOREM
2:10:29PM ASSESSMENT FOR THE COST OF STREETLIGHTS IN THE COMMUNITY
2:10:32PM PLACE STREETLIGHT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT, WHICH IS
2:10:34PM NORTH OF KAY STREET, SOUTH OF HENDERSON AVENUE, EAST OF
2:10:39PM LAMAR AVENUE, WEST OF NEBRASKA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
2:10:42PM ONCE AGAIN, AS A REMINDER, APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION THAT
2:10:45PM ADOPTS THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT MUST OCCUR DURING THE

2:10:49PM HEARING.
2:10:50PM I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS OR OBJECTIONS TO THIS
2:10:52PM ASSESSMENT AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE APPLICANT IS
2:10:56PM ONLINE TO SPEAK TO IT.
2:10:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MINCBERG, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY
2:11:03PM ANYTHING, SIR.
2:11:04PM YOU ARE MUTED.
2:11:05PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
2:11:12PM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
2:11:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.
2:11:16PM GO AHEAD.
2:11:16PM >> THIS IS MY FIRST TIME DOING ONE OF THESE AND I DON'T NEED
2:11:20PM TO TAKE UP ANY TIME, SO I JUST REGISTERED IN CASE.
2:11:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
2:11:28PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
2:11:31PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
2:11:35PM MIRANDA.
2:11:36PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:11:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:11:39PM AYE.
2:11:40PM MOTION TO CLOSE?
2:11:41PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:11:43PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:11:44PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:11:45PM AYE.

2:11:45PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
2:11:50PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
2:11:52PM THIS IS WITH REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER 96 ON THE AGENDA.
2:11:55PM WE ARE REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE
2:11:58PM NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT
2:12:01PM FOR THE COST OF STREETLIGHTS IN THE NOHO PHASE 2 STREETLIGHT
2:12:05PM SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT WHICH IS GENERALLY LOCATED
2:12:07PM BETWEEN WEST CARMEN STREET AND WEST GRAY STREET BEING NORTH
2:12:09PM OF WEST FIG STREET AND WEST OF NORTH OREGON AVENUE AND SOUTH
2:12:14PM OF CARMEN STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
2:12:17PM ONCE AGAIN AS A REMINDER, THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION THAT
2:12:20PM ADOPTS THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL MUST OCCUR DURING
2:12:24PM THE HEARING.
2:12:25PM I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS OR OBJECTIONS TO THE
2:12:28PM IMPOSITION OF THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.
2:12:29PM THANK YOU.
2:12:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:12:30PM ANY QUESTIONS?
2:12:31PM IF NOT, I SEE MR. ENGLISH IS ON THE LINE.
2:12:35PM I'M SORRY.
2:12:36PM HE'S UP FOR THE NEXT ONE.
2:12:37PM ITEM NUMBER 96, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES
2:12:41PM TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
2:12:43PM NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
2:12:45PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.

2:12:50PM OH, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MOVED THE RESOLUTION.
2:12:52PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:12:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:12:54PM AYE.
2:12:55PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:12:55PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE HEARING?
2:12:57PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:12:59PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:13:01PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:13:01PM AYE.
2:13:02PM NOW ITEM NUMBER 97.
2:13:04PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
2:13:06PM WE'RE REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE
2:13:13PM NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT
2:13:17PM WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN YBOR CITY AREA OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR
2:13:20PM THE PURPOSE OF PAYING A PORTION OF THE OPERATING COST OF THE
2:13:24PM TAMPA YBOR HISTORIC ELECTRIC STREETCAR PROJECT DURING FISCAL
2:13:29PM YEAR 2024.
2:13:31PM AS A REMINDER, THE APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION MUST HAPPEN
2:13:35PM DURING THE HEARING AND WE HAVE MIKE ENGLISH ONLINE TO SPEAK
2:13:38PM TO THIS ITEM.
2:13:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ENGLISH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D
2:13:42PM LIKE TO ADD?
2:13:43PM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
2:13:45PM I WAS ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY PRESENT THIS MORNING BUT WAS

2:13:48PM CALLED AWAY AT THE BREAK.
2:13:49PM SO MY APOLOGIES.
2:13:50PM NO.
2:13:52PM WE'RE JUST HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AS USUAL FOR THE
2:13:56PM STREETCAR SPECIAL ASSESSMENT WHICH IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT
2:13:58PM OF THE STREETCAR'S FINANCING.
2:14:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:14:01PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
2:14:02PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
2:14:06PM ITEM NUMBER 97?
2:14:08PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
2:14:10PM REMINDER, THIS IS NOT A NEW ASSESSMENT.
2:14:12PM THIS ASSESSMENT HAS BEEN AROUND A WHILE.
2:14:15PM THANK YOU.
2:14:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
2:14:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. ENGLISH, YOU PROBABLY HEARD WE'VE TALKED
2:14:22PM A LOT ABOUT THE STREETCAR LATELY, ESPECIALLY IN THE CRA
2:14:25PM MEETINGS, AND COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN IN PARTICULAR HAS
2:14:30PM TALKED A LOT ABOUT IT.
2:14:31PM SINCE WE HAVE SEVERAL NEW MEMBERS, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT
2:14:33PM THE LAST UPDATE WAS FROM SEVERAL YEARS AGO, YOU MIGHT WANT
2:14:36PM TO GET TOGETHER WITH KIMMINS OR WHOEVER DID THE LAST PLAN
2:14:41PM AND COME GIVE US AN UPDATE.
2:14:42PM I'LL LET COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN MAKE THE MOTIONS AT SOME
2:14:45PM POINT.

2:14:46PM BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN UPDATE ON WHAT YOU ALL THINK THE
2:14:49PM NEXT STAGE IS AND WHAT IT WOULD ENTAIL.
2:14:52PM I KNOW WE HAVE SOMETHING COMING BACK ABOUT THE BUDGET.
2:14:54PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE MAP AGAIN AND SEE IF IT'S CHANGED
2:14:57PM SINCE THE LAST TIME I SAW IT.
2:15:01PM >> SURE.
2:15:01PM BE HAPPY TO.
2:15:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
2:15:05PM I LITERALLY JUST ASKED MY AIDE TO SET UP A MEETING BETWEEN
2:15:08PM YOU AND I.
2:15:10PM >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
2:15:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO ONE IN THE PUBLIC.
2:15:13PM WE ALREADY HAVE THE REGISTERED INDIVIDUAL.
2:15:15PM DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE 97?
2:15:16PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:15:19PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:15:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:15:20PM AYE.
2:15:21PM MOTION TO CLOSE?
2:15:22PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:15:24PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:15:27PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:15:28PM AYE.
2:15:38PM >> ITEM NUMBER 98 ON THE AGENDA, JUSTIN VASKE, ASSISTANT
2:15:44PM CITY ATTORNEY.

2:15:45PM WE ARE REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE
2:15:48PM NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT
2:15:52PM WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL SERVICE DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF
2:15:54PM TAMPA FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING FOR THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN
2:15:57PM ENHANCED SERVICES IN THE SAID AREA DURING THE 2024 FISCAL
2:16:01PM YEAR, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO MARKETING AND BUSINESS
2:16:04PM DEVELOPMENT, SAFETY, MAINTENANCE, TRANSPORTATION, AND
2:16:07PM PLANNING, BEAUTIFICATION AND URBAN DESIGN.
2:16:10PM ALSO AS PART OF THIS PACKAGE HERE, ALSO SEEKING APPROVAL OF
2:16:15PM THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND
2:16:18PM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP REGARDING THE USE OF THE NON-AD
2:16:22PM VALOREM ASSESSMENT WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL SERVICES
2:16:25PM DISTRICT.
2:16:25PM I AM NOT AWARE OF, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS OR
2:16:30PM OBJECTIONS TO THE IMPOSITION OF THIS SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.
2:16:34PM AND I BELIEVE THERE IS SOMEBODY HERE FROM THE DOWNTOWN
2:16:36PM PARTNERSHIP THAT MAY WISH TO SPEAK ON THE OTHER ONE.
2:16:38PM ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS NOT --
2:16:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS ISN'T SOMETHING NEW?
2:16:43PM BECAUSE I SAW IN THE NEWS A COUPLE OF HOURS AGO THAT THE
2:16:45PM CITY COUNCIL TODAY IS GOING TO VOTE TO POSSIBLY ADD MORE
2:16:49PM TAXES, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE AND THE ITEMS THAT ARE
2:16:53PM COMING AFTER THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IN
2:16:56PM PLAY FOR YEARS.
2:17:02PM >> IT WAS IN THE '90s.

2:17:03PM IN PLACE FOR A LONG TIME.
2:17:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS CONFUSED BY THE STORY.
2:17:07PM YES, SIR.
2:17:07PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, SHAUN DRINKARD, INTERIM PRESIDENT FOR THE
2:17:15PM DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
2:17:16PM TO CLARIFY THAT, WE ARE JUST SHY OF 30 YEARS FOR THIS
2:17:20PM DISTRICT IN MANAGING THIS ASSESSMENT.
2:17:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:17:22PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
2:17:23PM SIR, ARE YOU HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
2:17:31PM >> MY NAME IS SMITH.
2:17:33PM 1,000 WATER STREET.
2:17:35PM I OPPOSE THIS.
2:17:37PM THERE ARE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE MOVING TO THAT DISTRICT AND
2:17:40PM I THINK IT WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE TO THE COST OF
2:17:41PM LIVING.
2:17:43PM SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
2:17:46PM IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, SO IT'S NOTHING NEW TO PEOPLE
2:17:52PM MOVING IN.
2:17:52PM APPRECIATE IT.
2:17:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES THIS ENCOMPASS WATER STREET -- SO
2:17:57PM IT COVERS THE WHOLE AREA.
2:17:59PM OKAY.
2:17:59PM AGAIN, IT'S BEEN COVERING WATERS STREET, IF YOU COULD COME
2:18:03PM TO THE LECTERN.

2:18:04PM HAS IT COVERED THAT ENTIRE AREA DURING THE LIFE SPAN OF THIS
2:18:08PM ASSESSMENT?
2:18:08PM >> YES, FOR THE DURATION, ALWAYS INCLUDED THAT PROPERTY AS
2:18:11PM WELL.
2:18:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN HENDERSON.
2:18:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAYBE JUSTIN CAN REAFFIRM.
2:18:20PM WE'RE NOT INCREASING.
2:18:21PM STAYING THE SAME AS IT WAS BEFORE.
2:18:23PM MR. DRINKARD, MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US THE TOP HIGHLIGHTS FOR
2:18:27PM THE PUBLIC ON WHAT SERVICES THIS PAYS FOR FOR THE RESIDENTS
2:18:30PM OF DOWNTOWN.
2:18:30PM >> SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
2:18:31PM ALSO CLARIFY THAT THE MILLAGE RATE IS 1.0285.
2:18:36PM THAT WAS DROPPED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
2:18:38PM ORIGINALLY 1.1.
2:18:39PM SO THAT WAS DROPPED AS DENSITY STARTED TO INCREASE, WE SAW
2:18:43PM THAT AS THE NUMBERS STARTED TO INCREASE, WE WANTED TO ADJUST
2:18:45PM IT.
2:18:46PM WE DID A STUDY STATEWIDE TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT MILLAGE RATES
2:18:50PM WERE FOR DISTRICTS OF SIMILAR NATURE.
2:18:52PM SO WE MADE THAT MODIFICATION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
2:18:55PM FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHAT WE DO, WE ARE COVERING ALL THE
2:18:58PM AREAS OF MARKETING, TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC SPACE, AND OUR
2:19:02PM BIG PIECE IS CLEAN AND SAFE, EYES AND EARS ON DOWNTOWN.
2:19:06PM SPECIFICALLY A FEW THINGS I CAN MENTION FROM THE PAST YEAR,

2:19:10PM FOR HOW DOWNTOWN IS CHANGING AND WATERS STREET IS A MAJOR
2:19:13PM PLAYER OF WHAT DOWNTOWN IS, DOWNTOWN, WE SEE IT AS SEVEN
2:19:16PM DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
2:19:17PM THESE SEVEN NEIGHBORHOODS ARE ALL VERY DISTINCT AND VERY
2:19:20PM IMPORTANT.
2:19:21PM AND WITH THAT SAID, WE NOW HAVE OVER 22,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN
2:19:24PM DOWNTOWN.
2:19:25PM SO WHAT WE ARE DOING 27 YEARS AGO IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN
2:19:28PM WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.
2:19:29PM SO A LARGE PIECE OF THAT IS OUR GROUND LEVEL SERVICE, AND WE
2:19:33PM HAVE EXTENDED SERVICE LATER INTO THE EVENING HOURS AS WELL
2:19:36PM WITH OUR AMBASSADORS, OUR CLEAN TEAM, ENSURING THAT THAT
2:19:39PM LATE-NIGHT TIME FRAME IS ALSO ADDRESSED.
2:19:41PM SO AS THE STEWARD OF DOWNTOWN, WE ARE ALWAYS TAKING A LOOK
2:19:45PM AT HOW RESIDENT-BASED INCREASES, WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MEET
2:19:48PM THOSE DEMANDS, AND ALSO THE HOURS AND OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS.
2:19:53PM ANOTHER AREA THAT I WOULD ADDRESS IS ALL OF OUR MAJOR PUBLIC
2:19:56PM EVENTS, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD A BIG PLAY IN IT THE PAST 15 YEARS.
2:20:00PM BIG FOCUS HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE RIVERWALK AND WATERFRONT
2:20:03PM PARKS.
2:20:04PM THIS YEAR, AS WE'RE PUTTING A BIG EFFORT INTO ALL OF THE
2:20:07PM NEIGHBORHOODS, ALL THAT PROGRAMMING IS NOW BEING KIND OF
2:20:10PM BASICALLY DOUBLED AND GOING INTO ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
2:20:12PM SO EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD HAS VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF PUBLIC
2:20:16PM PROGRAMMING WITHIN THOSE PARKS AS WELL, NOT JUST RIVERWALK.

2:20:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:20:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. DRINKARD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT
2:20:26PM BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU REGARDING THAT PIECE ABOUT
2:20:29PM THE EQUITY OF HOW WE USE PUBLIC DOLLARS ALL OVER THE
2:20:32PM NEIGHBORHOODS, AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT PLAN IS GOING TO
2:20:35PM BE COMING FORWARD FOR THE FIRST TIME UNDER YOUR LEADERSHIP.
2:20:38PM >> YES.
2:20:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I KNOW THAT THE -- BECAUSE WE MET, CENTRAL
2:20:42PM AVENUE, ENCORE IS A PART OF THE SPECIAL SERVICE DISTRICT FOR
2:20:45PM THE VERY FIRST TIME.
2:20:48PM IN TERMS OF STAFF, HAVE YOU ALL HAD ANY CONVERSATION ABOUT
2:20:52PM FUTURE PLANS FOR THAT AND HOW YOU WILL USE DOLLARS TO
2:20:55PM SUPPORT THAT PARTICULAR AREA?
2:20:57PM >> SURE.
2:20:57PM SO IN OUR EFFORTS TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE SEVEN
2:21:01PM NEIGHBORHOODS, A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE STARTED A NEW PROJECT
2:21:04PM CALLED WHAT'S POPPING.
2:21:08PM TOOK AROUND TO SEVEN NEIGHBORHOODS.
2:21:09PM IT WAS GROUND-LEVEL INPUT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT EACH RESIDENT
2:21:13PM WANTS IN THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND TO CRAFT THAT
2:21:15PM PROGRAMMING PER NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:21:17PM WHATEVER WE DO FROM A PROGRAMMATIC STANDPOINT DOESN'T REALLY
2:21:21PM TOUCH ALL SEVEN IN ONE WAY.
2:21:23PM THEY ARE ALL VERY DIFFERENT.
2:21:24PM WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN CURTIS HIXON AND THE

2:21:26PM WATERFRONT PARKS BUT WE WANTED THE FEEDBACK.
2:21:28PM THAT WAS OUR FIRST LAYER OF FEEDBACK, UNDERSTANDING FROM
2:21:31PM THAT DIALOGUE FOR THE SEVEN NEIGHBORHOODS.
2:21:33PM BUT AS WE START TO IMPLEMENT WORK IN EACH OF THE
2:21:36PM NEIGHBORHOODS' PARKS, THAT'S THE SMALL PARKS, THAT'S THE
2:21:39PM TIME WHERE WE WANT TO HEAR FROM OTHER BUSINESSES, OTHER
2:21:41PM RESIDENTS, AND WE CAN CRAFT THOSE AS THEY GO THROUGHOUT THE
2:21:44PM YEAR.
2:21:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU, TOO, ON YOUR
2:21:48PM CONVERSATION WITH THE CENTRAL AVENUE DISTRICT, THE NAMING OF
2:21:53PM THAT.
2:21:53PM I HEARD IT WAS UNANIMOUS THAT IT IS CENTRAL AVENUE AND NOT
2:21:56PM ENCORE.
2:21:56PM THAT IS A DEVELOPMENT.
2:21:58PM I COMMEND YOU BECAUSE THAT ALSO KEEPS THE HISTORY IN PLACE
2:22:01PM BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS, THE CENTRAL AVENUE
2:22:03PM BUSINESS DISTRICT.
2:22:04PM I APPRECIATE YOU FOR ALL YOUR EFFORTS.
2:22:07PM >> THANK YOU.
2:22:07PM AND MOVING FORWARD FROM A PLACE BRANDING STANDPOINT, AS
2:22:10PM THESE ARE ESTABLISHED, WE WILL THEN START TO IMPLEMENT THAT
2:22:12PM BRAND AND LOOK AND FEEL IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THAT
2:22:16PM IMPORTANCE OF UNDERSTANDING COMMUNITY.
2:22:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EVEN FOR THE PUBLIC, LAST COMMENT, WHEN WE
2:22:23PM MET, IT'S REALLY THE MILLAGE HOVERS AROUND 5 MILLION, 6

2:22:28PM MILLION DOLLARS.
2:22:29PM >> 5.5.
2:22:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY FOR THE
2:22:32PM GREAT THINGS THAT THEY DO.
2:22:33PM JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY SO YOU WON'T TRY TO CUT IT.
2:22:38PM IN THE BUDGET.
2:22:40PM OKAY.
2:22:41PM THANK YOU.
2:22:41PM THANK YOU, MR. DRINKARD, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR
2:22:45PM POSITION.
2:22:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, AND THE QUESTIONS I ASKED WERE JUST TO
2:22:49PM MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC KNEW I SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATION.
2:22:53PM MY COLLEAGUE WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDERS.
2:22:55PM I THINK HE WAS THE SECOND PRESIDENT, BUT THAT WAS 30 YEARS
2:22:58PM AGO, SO IT'S NOT A CONFLICT.
2:22:59PM BUT COULD YOU TELL US, MY COLLEAGUE JUST REMINDED ME THAT I
2:23:05PM SAW IN THE NEWS THAT PERRY HARVEY PARK, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN
2:23:08PM WALK OF FAME WAS VANDALIZED.
2:23:10PM I HAVEN'T CHECKED WITH PARKS, BUT ARE YOU GUYS INVOLVED IN
2:23:13PM THAT AT ALL?
2:23:14PM WHAT IS THE STATUS OF BEING ABLE TO MAKE SURE THE AREA STAYS
2:23:18PM SAFE?
2:23:18PM >> WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH WORKS.
2:23:20PM WE DEAL WITH GRAFFITI WITHIN THE PUBLIC REALM.
2:23:23PM PARKS SPECIFICALLY, NORMALLY LEAN HEAVY ON PARKS AND REC FOR

2:23:26PM THAT.
2:23:26PM AS WE GET THE REPORTS ON A DAILY, THEN WE DISSEMINATE TO ALL
2:23:30PM CITY STAFF.
2:23:31PM PRIMARILY WITHIN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ROADS AND SIDEWALKS,
2:23:33PM BUT WE DO WORK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THOSE
2:23:35PM ARE ADDRESSED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
2:23:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
2:23:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
2:23:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ALSO WANT TO COMMEND THE WORK THAT YOU
2:23:41PM GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING.
2:23:42PM I'VE APPRECIATED THE MEETINGS AND THE CONVERSATIONS I'VE
2:23:45PM HAD.
2:23:45PM JUST TO KIND OF KEY THE PUBLIC INTO THE KIND OF, AS WE'RE
2:23:50PM FORWARD THINKING IN THESE AREAS, IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS,
2:23:56PM INCREASING VENDING IN SOME OF THE PUBLIC AREAS SO PEOPLE CAN
2:23:59PM FIND SOME REFRESHMENTS AND FOODS IN AREAS AND LOOKING AT
2:24:02PM CREATIVE WAYS OF CREATING KIOSKS AND THINGS FOR FOLKS AS
2:24:06PM THEY VISIT DOWNTOWN.
2:24:08PM REINVENTION OF SOMETHING THAT IS FUTURE FACING, REINVENTION
2:24:11PM OF THE MARION STREET CORRIDOR AND REPURPOSING THAT AND I
2:24:13PM THINK THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP HAS BEEN REALLY GOOD ABOUT
2:24:16PM THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.
2:24:18PM AS WE TALK ABOUT STREETCAR EXPANSION, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE
2:24:21PM BEEN REALLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT DIALOGUE OF WHAT AN
2:24:24PM IMPACT IT'S GOING TO HAVE ON THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

2:24:26PM I THINK WHAT YOU ARE DOING HAS BEEN GREAT WORK.
2:24:29PM I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND YOUR TEAM AS WE LOOK
2:24:32PM AND CONTINUE TO PURSUE THESE ISSUES BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE
2:24:36PM HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING YET.
2:24:39PM THE BEST OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IS IN FRONT OF US.
2:24:41PM >> THANK YOU.
2:24:42PM WE APPRECIATE IT.
2:24:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON THAT NOTE, WE SHOULD MOVE THE
2:24:44PM RESOLUTION.
2:24:44PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:24:47PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:24:48PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:24:49PM AND THAT IS THE FIRST PART OF THE RESOLUTION ON ITEM 98.
2:24:55PM THE SECOND RESOLUTION RIGHT BELOW IT, CAN I GET A MOTION?
2:24:57PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:24:59PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:25:02PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:25:02PM AYE.
2:25:03PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:25:03PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE ITEM NUMBER 98.
2:25:06PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:25:08PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:25:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:25:09PM AYE.
2:25:14PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: WE ARE REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF A

2:25:17PM RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR A
2:25:21PM NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT WITHIN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS
2:25:23PM DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING FOR
2:25:26PM THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN ENHANCED SERVICES AND IMPROVEMENTS
2:25:29PM IN SAID AREA DURING THE 2024 FISCAL YEAR, INCLUDING
2:25:33PM TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, MARKETING, AND SECURITY
2:25:35PM SERVICES FOR SAID AREA.
2:25:38PM AND WE ARE ALSO SEEKING APPROVAL OF WESTSHORE SPECIAL
2:25:41PM SERVICES AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE WESTSHORE
2:25:43PM ALLIANCE REGARDING THE USE OF THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENTS
2:25:47PM WITHIN THE AREA OF THE CITY KNOWN AS THE WESTSHORE SPECIAL
2:25:50PM SERVICES DISTRICT FOR THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN IMPROVEMENTS
2:25:54PM AND SERVICES WITHIN THE SAID AREA DURING 2024 FISCAL YEAR.
2:25:59PM AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT TO THE CLERK A WRITTEN
2:26:02PM OBJECTION THAT I HAVE RECEIVED, AND THEN ONCE I DO THAT, WE
2:26:06PM HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE THAT WOULD
2:26:09PM LIKE TO SPEAK.
2:26:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
2:26:11PM THAT OBJECTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:26:13PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:26:14PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:26:15PM AYE.
2:26:16PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:26:16PM MR. MORENO.
2:26:22PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

2:26:24PM MICHAEL MORENO, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WESTSHORE
2:26:26PM ALLIANCE.
2:26:26PM THE ASSESSMENT IN FRONT OF YOU, THE RATE IS NOT CHANGING
2:26:29PM FROM LAST YEAR.
2:26:31PM IT IS STILL 13.25 CENTS.
2:26:34PM THE SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE
2:26:37PM 2002.
2:26:38PM IN YOUR AGENDA ITEM, THERE IS A WORK PLAN THAT TALKS ABOUT
2:26:42PM HOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY ON SEVERAL TRANSPORTATION
2:26:44PM PROJECTS, NOTABLY GRAY STREET, WHICH WE HOPE IS A BICYCLE
2:26:49PM AND LOW STRESS PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR THAT WILL CONNECT
2:26:53PM WESTSHORE PLAZA THROUGH WEST TAMPA TO CASS STREET AND
2:26:56PM EVENTUALLY THE RIVERWALK.
2:26:57PM WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
2:26:58PM WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOU WORKING ON THAT PROJECT.
2:27:01PM ALSO WE'LL BE HERE NEXT WEEK.
2:27:02PM WE ARE HAVING CHANGES TO OUR OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT WE
2:27:05PM BELIEVE REFLECTS NOT ONLY DEVELOPMENT BUT ALSO SOME OF THE
2:27:08PM NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY.
2:27:09PM ONE LAST POINT ON THE SSD, ASSESSMENT ON COMMERCIAL
2:27:13PM PROPERTIES, RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES,
2:27:15PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES IN WESTSHORE AND NOT ASSESSED.
2:27:17PM THANK YOU.
2:27:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:27:20PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON

2:27:23PM THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 99?
2:27:24PM THERE WAS NOBODY REGISTERED.
2:27:28PM WE CAN'T CLOSE IT.
2:27:30PM MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
2:27:31PM THIS IS TO MOVE THE FIRST PART.
2:27:35PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
2:27:37PM CLENDENIN.
2:27:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:27:37PM AYE.
2:27:38PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:27:39PM AND NOW A MOTION FOR THE SECOND PART.
2:27:41PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:27:43PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:27:45PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:27:45PM AYE.
2:27:46PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:27:46PM NOW MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
2:27:49PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:27:50PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:27:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:27:52PM AYE.
2:27:52PM ALL RIGHT.
2:27:54PM WE ALREADY ASKED FOR A MOTION TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
2:27:58PM IF ANYBODY IS SPEAK ON ITEMS 100 THROUGH 107, PLEASE STAND,
2:28:04PM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.

2:28:06PM I KNOW WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE ONLINE AS WELL.
2:28:08PM AND WE'LL GET TO THOSE.
2:28:10PM IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEMS, 100 TO 107, PLEASE
2:28:14PM STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
2:28:16PM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
2:28:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS SECOND READING, ITEM 100.
2:28:29PM >> DANA CROSBY COLLIER FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE.
2:28:34PM ITEM 100 ON THE AGENDA IS SU 2-23-03.
2:28:39PM SECOND READING APPROVING SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 FOR
2:28:44PM EXISTING DAY CARE LOCATED AT 4911 NORTH 42nd STREET.
2:28:48PM STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
2:28:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
2:28:51PM NO.
2:28:52PM ALL RIGHT.
2:28:53PM DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE?
2:28:56PM I SEE THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE.
2:29:00PM I HAVE MATRICE, PATTY, REGINALD.
2:29:14PM IF ONLINE, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND TURN YOUR CAMERA ON AND
2:29:17PM UNMUTE YOURSELF.
2:29:36PM >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU ARE
2:29:38PM ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
2:29:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
2:29:47PM YOU MIGHT BE MUTED.
2:29:48PM YOU ARE UNFROZEN, BUT I THINK YOU'RE MUTED.
2:29:55PM YOU ARE MUTED ON YOUR END.

2:30:17PM WE CAN SEE YOU.
2:30:23PM WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
2:30:24PM GO AHEAD.
2:30:42PM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
2:30:44PM WE CAN HEAR YOU.
2:30:52PM >> I JUST WANT TO PRESENT MY PLANS FOR THE CHILD CARE.
2:30:58PM IT'S ALREADY AN EXISTING CHILD CARE.
2:31:01PM SO I HAVE CHANGED EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAD ASKED ME TO DO
2:31:04PM AND PRESENT IT TO MS. LaCHONE AND SHE SAID EVERYTHING WAS
2:31:09PM OKAY THAT I SENT BEFORE YOU GUYS.
2:31:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
2:31:15PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
2:31:16PM NO.
2:31:17PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
2:31:20PM ITEM NUMBER 100?
2:31:21PM NO.
2:31:24PM WE HAVE NO ONE.
2:31:25PM DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
2:31:27PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:31:29PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:31:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:31:32PM AYE.
2:31:33PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM 100.
2:31:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 100, FILE SU2-23-03, ORDINANCE BEING
2:31:41PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

2:31:43PM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2, APPROVING
2:31:46PM A DAY CARE IN AN RS 50 RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING
2:31:50PM DISTRICT IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4911 NORTH 42nd
2:31:54PM STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY
2:31:56PM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 THEREOF, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:31:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
2:32:00PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:32:01PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
2:32:10PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
2:32:12PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
2:32:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
2:32:14PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:32:15PM NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 101.
2:32:17PM YES, MA'AM.
2:32:19PM >> BEFORE YOU TODAY IS FILE REZ-22-91.
2:32:23PM THIS IS THE SECOND READING ON AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A
2:32:25PM REZONING FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2212, 2215, 2400, 2401,
2:32:32PM 2815 AND 2905 EAST HENRY AVENUE.
2:32:37PM STAFF IS ONLINE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:32:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:32:38PM NO.
2:32:39PM DO WE HAVE JAIME MAIER ONLINE FOR THIS?
2:32:44PM WE DO.
2:32:46PM WAS SHE SWORN IN?
2:32:47PM NO.

2:32:48PM JAIME MAIER, IF YOU'RE ON, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF, TURN YOUR
2:32:51PM CAMERA ON AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
2:32:54PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
2:32:56PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
2:32:58PM YOU'RE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
2:33:00PM TRUTH?
2:33:02PM >>JAIME MAIER: I DO.
2:33:04PM I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD BUT I WANTED TO MAKE
2:33:06PM SURE I WAS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP.
2:33:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
2:33:09PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
2:33:10PM NO.
2:33:11PM ALL RIGHT.
2:33:12PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 101?
2:33:14PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:33:20PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:33:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:33:22PM AYE.
2:33:24PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
2:33:27PM 101?
2:33:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
2:33:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU REVIEW THE RECORD?
2:33:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: OF COURSE, I DID.
2:33:33PM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
2:33:36PM ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL

2:33:38PM VICINITY OF 2212, 2215, 2400, 2401, 2815, AND 2905 EAST
2:33:48PM HENRY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
2:33:50PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
2:33:52PM CLASSIFICATION, PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AND CG, COMMERCIAL
2:33:55PM GENERAL, TO PD-A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ALTERNATIVE, BUSINESS
2:33:59PM PROFESSIONAL AND MEDICAL OFFICE, CONGREGATE LIVING FACILITY,
2:34:01PM RESIDENTIAL TREATMENT FACILITY, RECOVERY HOME A AND B, LIFE
2:34:05PM CARE TREATMENT FACILITY, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, HOSPITAL
2:34:07PM AND DAY CARE; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:34:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
2:34:11PM VIERA.
2:34:12PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:34:13PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
2:34:19PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:34:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:34:21PM ITEM NUMBER 102.
2:34:25PM >> FILE REZ-23-06, SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVING
2:34:30PM REZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6403 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE,
2:34:34PM 2204 AND 2212 NORTH 65th STREET.
2:34:37PM STAFF IS AVAILABLE ONLINE TO EXPLAIN IF THERE'S BEEN ANY
2:34:41PM CHANGES IN THIS ITEM SINCE YOUR FIRST READING.
2:34:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
2:34:48PM ALL RIGHT.
2:34:48PM WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ONLINE?
2:34:50PM IS THE APPLICANT ON?

2:34:51PM WAS THE APPLICANT SWORN IN?
2:34:53PM ALL RIGHT.
2:34:54PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
2:34:58PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
2:35:00PM YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
2:35:02PM TRUTH?
2:35:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE MUTED.
2:35:06PM PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
2:35:07PM WE CAN HEAR YOU.
2:35:15PM YOU'RE GOOD.
2:35:16PM GO AHEAD.
2:35:18PM >> OKAY.
2:35:18PM I DO.
2:35:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
2:35:20PM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?
2:35:22PM >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.
2:35:23PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
2:35:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
2:35:29PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON 102?
2:35:34PM MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:35:38PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:35:40PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:35:41PM AYE.
2:35:41PM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, READ 102.
2:35:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ-23-06, ORDINANCE

2:35:54PM BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
2:35:56PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2:35:59PM 6403 EAST BROADWAY AVENUE, 2204 AND 2212 NORTH 65th STREET
2:36:07PM AND FOLIO NUMBER 159833-0000, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA
2:36:16PM AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
2:36:19PM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE AND RS-50,
2:36:24PM RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO IG, INDUSTRIAL GENERAL;
2:36:29PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:36:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
2:36:33PM HENDERSON WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:36:35PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
2:36:39PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:36:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:36:42PM ITEM NUMBER 103.
2:36:46PM >> DANA CROSBY COLLIER AGAIN.
2:36:50PM LaCHONE DOCK IS ONLINE TO CLARIFY IF YOU HAVE ANY
2:36:53PM QUESTIONS OR ANY COMMENTS ON THE SITE PLAN.
2:36:55PM FILE REZ-23-13, SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVING
2:36:59PM REZONING FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5825 AND 5827 EAST COLUMBUS
2:37:03PM DRIVE.
2:37:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
2:37:07PM NO.
2:37:09PM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 103?
2:37:12PM YES, MA'AM.
2:37:12PM COME ON UP.

2:37:17PM >> MY NAME IS MARIA COOLLY.
2:37:20PM ONE OF THE OWNERS.
2:37:20PM I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
2:37:22PM I AM HERE TO SEE IF YOU GUYS HAVE QUESTIONS.
2:37:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
2:37:28PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 103?
2:37:31PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:37:35PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:37:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:37:37PM AYE.
2:37:38PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:37:38PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
2:37:42PM 103?
2:37:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, FILE REZ-23-13, ORDINANCE BEING
2:37:47PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
2:37:49PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
2:37:52PM 5825 AND 5827 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
2:37:56PM FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM
2:37:59PM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATIONS RM-16, RESIDENTIAL,
2:38:04PM MULTIFAMILY, TO IG, INDUSTRIAL GENERAL, PROVIDING AN
2:38:06PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:38:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
2:38:08PM CLENDENIN.
2:38:09PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:38:11PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.

2:38:16PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:38:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
2:38:19PM NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 104.
2:38:21PM YES, MA'AM.
2:38:22PM >> DANA CROSBY COLLIER, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
2:38:26PM THIS IS REZONING 23-40, IT IS THE SECOND READING OF AN
2:38:29PM ORDINANCE APPROVING THE REZONING FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT
2:38:31PM 3901 AND 3907 EAST COLUMBUS DRIVE.
2:38:35PM MS. LaCHONE DOCK IS ON THE LINE TO EXPLAIN ANY CHANGES TO
2:38:38PM THE PLAN OR TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
2:38:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
2:38:42PM ALL RIGHT.
2:38:45PM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 104?
2:38:47PM YES, MA'AM.
2:38:52PM >> I'M PATRICIA RADEBAUGH.
2:38:56PM HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND BUSINESS OWNER.
2:39:00PM WE ARE REQUESTING THIS REZONING IN ORDER TO KEEP OPERATING
2:39:02PM AT THIS LOCATION.
2:39:03PM THE USAGE IS CONSISTENT WITH IG ZONING AND COMPATIBLE WITH
2:39:07PM THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING OF NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
2:39:10PM BRAD COOL IS A VETERAN WHO HAS BEEN PROVIDING SERVICE BY
2:39:14PM CONTRACTING WITH USAA TO REPAIR ACTIVE MILITARY PERSONNEL
2:39:19PM WHILE STATESIDE AND DEPLOYED.
2:39:21PM FOR THIS REASON WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING APPROVAL OF
2:39:23PM THIS.

2:39:24PM THANK YOU.
2:39:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
2:39:26PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM,
2:39:31PM ITEM 104?
2:39:32PM NO ONE IS REGISTERED.
2:39:35PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
2:39:37PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:39:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:39:39PM AYE.
2:39:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE REZ-23-40, AN ORDINANCE REZONING
2:39:45PM PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3901 AND 3907 EAST
2:39:49PM COLUMBUS DRIVE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
2:39:52PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
2:39:54PM CLASSIFICATIONS CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, TO IG, INDUSTRIAL
2:39:58PM GENERAL, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:40:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECOND
2:40:05PM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:40:07PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
2:40:11PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:40:13PM >> THANK YOU.
2:40:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
2:40:15PM ITEM NUMBER 105.
2:40:18PM >> DANA CROSBY COLLIER, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
2:40:21PM THIS IS ITEM REZ-23-45.
2:40:24PM SECOND READING ON AN ORDINANCE APPROVING REZONING FOR

2:40:27PM PROPERTY LOCATED AT 915 WEST LINEBAUGH AVENUE.
2:40:32PM MS. LaCHONE DOCK IS ON THE LINE IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL
2:40:34PM INFORMATION.
2:40:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:40:36PM WE HAVE AN APPLICANT ONLINE.
2:40:40PM PAMELA?
2:40:41PM ALL RIGHT.
2:40:43PM WE NEED TO SWEAR HER IN.
2:40:50PM >> PAMELA JOE HATLEY.
2:40:52PM I REPRESENT REPUBLIC ENTERPRISE SYSTEMS WHICH IS THE
2:40:57PM APPLICANT.
2:40:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE YOUR CAMERA ON?
2:41:00PM >> IT'S ON.
2:41:00PM I THINK IT'S COMING UP.
2:41:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
2:41:02PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND SO WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN.
2:41:05PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT
2:41:07PM YOU ARE ABOUT TO PROVIDE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE
2:41:09PM TRUTH?
2:41:10PM >> I DO.
2:41:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
2:41:12PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
2:41:13PM NO.
2:41:14PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
2:41:16PM THIS ITEM, ITEM 105.

2:41:19PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:41:22PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
2:41:23PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:41:24PM AYE.
2:41:25PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:41:25PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
2:41:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:41:28PM THANK YOU.
2:41:28PM I'D LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 105, FILE REZ-23-45, ORDINANCE BEING
2:41:33PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
2:41:35PM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 915 WEST
2:41:37PM LINEBAUGH AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
2:41:41PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
2:41:43PM CLASSIFICATION RS-60, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD,
2:41:47PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, PROVIDING
2:41:50PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:41:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
2:41:52PM CARLSON.
2:41:53PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:41:54PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
2:42:01PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO.
2:42:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 106.
2:42:09PM >> THIS IS DANA CROSBY COLLIER, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
2:42:12PM THIS IS ITEM REZ-23-76.
2:42:14PM IT IS THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE APPROVING REZONING

2:42:18PM FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6611 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE.
2:42:22PM MS. LaCHONE DOCK IS ONLINE IN THE EVENT THERE'S ANY
2:42:25PM ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO PROVIDE OR IF YOU HAVE ANY
2:42:27PM QUESTIONS.
2:42:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
2:42:28PM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 106 HERE?
2:42:31PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 106?
2:42:36PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:42:39PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:42:41PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:42:42PM AYE.
2:42:43PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:42:43PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, 106.
2:42:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
2:42:47PM 106, REZ-23-76, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
2:42:51PM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
2:42:54PM GENERAL VICINITY OF 6611 NORTH NEBRASKA AVENUE IN THE CITY
2:42:57PM OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
2:42:59PM SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION SH-RS,
2:43:03PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO SH-CI,
2:43:06PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, MIXED USE, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, PROVIDING
2:43:09PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:43:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
2:43:11PM MIRANDA.
2:43:12PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.

2:43:13PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
2:43:18PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:43:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
2:43:22PM ITEM NUMBER 107, MR. MECHANIK WAS SWORN IN.
2:43:25PM I SAW HIS CAMERA POP UP.
2:43:27PM WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
2:43:28PM >> DANA CROSBY COLLIER, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
2:43:31PM THIS IS FILE REZ-22-82.
2:43:35PM IT IS THE SECOND READING OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE
2:43:38PM 2023-17 TO CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE LEGAL
2:43:43PM DESCRIPTION.
2:43:44PM THE SCRIVENER'S ERROR HAS BEEN CORRECTED BY SUBSTITUTING THE
2:43:47PM CORRECT LEGAL DESCRIPTION.
2:43:50PM THIS CHANGE HAS NOT IMPACTED THE NOTICE AREA FOR THE
2:43:53PM ORIGINAL ORDINANCE.
2:43:54PM MR. MECHANIK IS ONLINE AS IS MS. DOCK TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
2:43:58PM INFORMATION.
2:43:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
2:44:00PM WE HAVE MR. MECHANIK, MS. DOCK.
2:44:03PM ANYBODY?
2:44:03PM MR. MECHANIK, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?
2:44:06PM GO AHEAD.
2:44:08PM WE CAN HEAR YOU.
2:44:11PM >> NO, SIR.
2:44:12PM I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.

2:44:14PM JUST I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
2:44:17PM WE APPRECIATE YOUR FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION.
2:44:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:44:20PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
2:44:22PM ITEM NUMBER 107?
2:44:23PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:44:26PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
2:44:27PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:44:28PM AYE.
2:44:29PM ANY OPPOSED?
2:44:30PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
2:44:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE ORDINANCE BEING
2:44:34PM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
2:44:36PM AMENDING ORDINANCE 2023-17 WHICH REZONED THE PROPERTY IN THE
2:44:39PM GENERAL VICINITY OF 6204 INTERBAY BOULEVARD, CITY OF TAMPA,
2:44:42PM FLORIDA, IN ORDER TO CORRECT THE SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE
2:44:45PM LEGAL DESCRIPTION ATTACHED TO EXHIBIT A TO SAID ORDINANCE,
2:44:48PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:44:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:44:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:44:51PM AYE.
2:44:52PM PLEASE TYPE IN YOUR VOTE.
2:45:04PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
2:45:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF, ARE YOU HERE FOR 115 AND 116?
2:45:14PM >> 117.

2:45:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S RIGHT.
2:45:19PM WE PULLED THE ITEM.
2:45:20PM NEXT UP, WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 108.
2:45:22PM IT IS A REQUEST TO VACATE AN ALLEY.
2:45:25PM THIS IS NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE SWORN
2:45:28PM IN.
2:45:29PM WHO IS PRESENTING ON THE ALLEY VACATION ON 108?
2:45:32PM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:45:35PM PRESENTING FILE VAC-23-18.
2:45:38PM THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST BEING PRESENTED FOR
2:45:41PM FIRST READING.
2:45:42PM THE APPLICANT'S NAME IS ALYSHA COBB.
2:45:47PM CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE MY SCREEN?
2:45:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
2:45:56PM >>ROSS SAMONS: AGAIN, THE FILE NUMBER IS VAC-23-18.
2:46:00PM APPLICANT'S NAME IS ALYSHA COBB.
2:46:03PM THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 308 EAST VIRGINIA AVENUE.
2:46:09PM PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS TO VACATE THE ALLEY WAY LYING
2:46:11PM NORTH OF VIRGINIA AVENUE, SOUTH OF SELMA AVENUE, EAST OF
2:46:14PM SUWANNEE AVENUE AND WEST OF MAYFIELD AVENUE.
2:46:16PM THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED ON APRIL 26, 2023.
2:46:20PM THE APPLICANT OWNS THE PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE
2:46:22PM ALLEY THAT IS REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.
2:46:24PM THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS TO EXTEND
2:46:27PM PROPERTY LINE AND TO RELIEVE CITY BURDEN OF MAINTENANCE.

2:46:31PM THIS ALLEY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT.
2:46:34PM EXISTING ALLEY IS APPROXIMATELY 3,207 SQUARE FEET.
2:46:37PM HERE IS THE PROPOSED ALLEY VACATING IN YELLOW.
2:46:44PM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IN RED.
2:46:51PM THE PROPOSED VACATING ALLEY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IN THE
2:46:56PM SUBDIVISION PLAT OF GOOD'S ADDITION OF TAMPA.
2:47:00PM THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY AT 308 EAST VIRGINIA
2:47:04PM AVENUE.
2:47:04PM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST FROM NORTH MAYFIELD AVENUE.
2:47:14PM AND THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST FROM NORTH SUWANNEE
2:47:18PM AVENUE.
2:47:18PM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
2:47:22PM EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED BY WASTEWATER.
2:47:25PM SPECIAL CONDITIONS FOR NATURAL RESOURCES, MUST COMPLY WITH
2:47:27PM CHAPTER 27 REGARDING TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN,
2:47:32PM BRINGING IMPROVEMENTS PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN ANY
2:47:35PM VACATED AREAS.
2:47:39PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
2:47:39PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
2:47:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAMONS?
2:47:42PM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:47:46PM NO, YOU DIDN'T.
2:47:48PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:47:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE AT THE ALLEY, WHOSE
2:47:51PM PROPERTY IS THAT ON?

2:47:52PM WHO ERECTED THAT?
2:47:56PM >>ROSS SAMONS: THAT IS FROM A NEIGHBORING PROPERTY FROM THE
2:48:00PM APPLICANT'S.
2:48:02PM ON THE CORNER, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT PROPERTY OWNERSHIP FOR
2:48:05PM THAT.
2:48:05PM I'D HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK AND LOOK THAT UP.
2:48:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT IT IS ACROSS THE ALLEY PROBABLY AND
2:48:10PM IMPROPERLY PLACED, IS THAT RIGHT?
2:48:12PM >>ROSS SAMONS: I WOULD ASSUME SO, YES.
2:48:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
2:48:15PM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE?
2:48:17PM YES, MA'AM.
2:48:17PM GO AHEAD.
2:48:23PM >> DO I HAVE TO BE SWORN IN?
2:48:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
2:48:26PM >> OKAY.
2:48:27PM I'M HERE BECAUSE THEY SAID I NEEDED TO BE PRESENT.
2:48:29PM ONE THING I WANTED TO ADD, THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO LIVES ON
2:48:33PM THE OTHER SIDE OF ME NOW, BUT MY SIDE OF THE STREET IS
2:48:36PM PRIMARILY VACANT.
2:48:36PM SO A LOT OF TIMES THE TRASH FROM THE RESIDENTS ACROSS FROM
2:48:39PM ME JUST MAKES IT TO WHEREVER THE EMPTY LOTS ARE,
2:48:42PM PARTICULARLY TOWARD THE BACK SIDE LIKE AS THEY ARE DRIVING
2:48:44PM BY.
2:48:45PM IT STINKS.

2:48:47PM IT SMELLS.
2:48:47PM IT ATTRACTS RACCOONS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
2:48:51PM PART OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO ALLEVIATE BECAUSE I BOUGHT THERE
2:48:54PM FOR A REASON AND PURPOSE BUT I WANTED TO LOOK AND SMELL NICE
2:48:57PM WHILE I AM THERE.
2:48:58PM >> STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
2:49:00PM >> ALYSHA COBB.
2:49:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
2:49:04PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:49:05PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
2:49:08PM 108?
2:49:09PM I DON'T SEE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC.
2:49:10PM THERE'S NOBODY REGISTERED.
2:49:12PM ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?
2:49:13PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:49:15PM SECOND FROM LUIS.
2:49:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:49:20PM AYE.
2:49:21PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, WERE YOU NEXT TO READ?
2:49:25PM GO AHEAD.
2:49:26PM ITEM 108.
2:49:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
2:49:29PM READING CONSIDERATION.
2:49:31PM AN ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,
2:49:34PM CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THE ALLEYWAY LOCATED

2:49:38PM NORTH OF VIRGINIA AVENUE, SOUTH OF SELMA AVENUE, EAST OF
2:49:41PM SUWANNEE AVENUE, AND WEST OF MAYFIELD AVENUE WITHIN THE PLAT
2:49:45PM OF GOOD'S ADDITION TO TAMPA SUBDIVISION, IN THE CITY OF
2:49:50PM TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED
2:49:54PM IN SECTION 1 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
2:49:58PM CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
2:50:01PM HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
2:50:04PM VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND
2:50:07PM REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING
2:50:11PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
2:50:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON
2:50:14PM WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
2:50:17PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:50:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:50:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE
2:50:23PM GENERALLY I DON'T LIKE ALLEY CLOSURES BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW
2:50:26PM WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO AND CAN BE DOING.
2:50:29PM INSTEAD I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO SEE THE CITY WORK WITH HER TO
2:50:32PM IMPROVE THE ALLEY SO NO.
2:50:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DITTO WITH WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID.
2:50:37PM I UNDERSTAND YOUR PLIGHT, BUT I WOULD RATHER SEE THESE
2:50:40PM ALLEYS IMPROVED AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO -- FOR FUTURE USE OF
2:50:44PM THE ALLEYS.
2:50:45PM IT'S A SHAME THAT IT'S IN THAT CONDITION.
2:50:48PM I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M SORRY, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO.

2:50:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
2:50:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
2:50:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:50:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:50:55PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK AND CLENDENIN VOTING
2:50:58PM NO.
2:50:59PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER
2:51:02PM 21st, 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
2:51:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:51:06PM ALL RIGHT.
2:51:09PM NEXT UP WE HAVE -- MR. WIGGINTON, ARE YOU COMING UP? NO.
2:51:15PM ADMINISTRATION UPDATE AND IT WAS SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ THAT
2:51:17PM WAS GOING TO SPEAK.
2:51:18PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: GOOD AFTERNOON.
2:51:20PM SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
2:51:23PM I WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF AN ITEM THAT WE
2:51:26PM HAVE BEEN MONITORING.
2:51:27PM EPC IS PROPOSING REVISIONS TO THEIR NOISE POLLUTION RULE.
2:51:33PM AS MANY OF YOU MAY BE AWARE, EPC AND THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE
2:51:37PM CONCURRENT JURISDICTION OVER NOISE REGULATIONS WITHIN THE
2:51:40PM CITY LIMITS.
2:51:41PM AND SO JUST BY WAY OF BRIEF HISTORY, THE EPC REGULATIONS AND
2:51:47PM THEIR ABILITY TO REGULATE NOISE GO BACK TO 1984.
2:51:51PM CHAPTER 84446 LAWS OF FLORIDA THAT AUTHORIZED EPC TO
2:51:55PM REGULATE ACTIVITIES THAT CAUSE EXCESSIVE NOISE WITHIN

2:51:58PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
2:51:58PM SO THE NOISE POLLUTION RULE ACTUALLY ORIGINATED IN 1976.
2:52:03PM IT'S BEEN AMENDED SEVERAL TIMES.
2:52:06PM THE MOST SIGNIFICANT REVISION WAS IN 2008 AS A RESULT OF
2:52:10PM SOME OF THE LITIGATION THAT OCCURRED OVER THE AMPHITHEATER
2:52:16PM CONVERT VENUE YOU MAY RECALL.
2:52:19PM THE LAST RULE AMENDMENT WAS 2012, ABOUT 11 YEARS AGO.
2:52:22PM THE RULE ISN'T OPENED UP FOR REVISION VERY OFTEN.
2:52:25PM THE RULE ACTUALLY PROVIDES SOME DISTINCT SOUND LEVEL LIMITS
2:52:28PM THAT ARE MEASURED IN DECIBELS, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, SOME
2:52:31PM AREAS OF THE CITY, WE ALSO MEASURE SOUND BY DECIBEL LEVEL.
2:52:35PM LIKE THE CITY'S NOISE REGULATIONS, IT IS A COMPLAINT-DRIVEN
2:52:39PM RULE, AND MEASUREMENTS, WHEN THEY DO MEASUREMENTS BY DECIBEL
2:52:43PM LEVEL ARE TAKEN FROM THE RECEIVING PROPERTY.
2:52:45PM THE RULE INCLUDES SEVERAL EXEMPTIONS AND PREEMPTIONS, AND
2:52:50PM BASED ON OUR REVIEW AND THE MEETINGS WE'VE ATTENDED, SOME OF
2:52:53PM THE PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE EXEMPTION ARE WHAT CAUSING
2:52:57PM CONCERN AND BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION.
2:52:59PM THE EXEMPTIONS ARE FOUND IN SUBSECTION 1-10.04 WHICH BEGINS
2:53:04PM AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 3 IN THE HANDOUT THAT I BELIEVE YOU
2:53:07PM ALL HAVE.
2:53:07PM SORRY.
2:53:15PM I'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE.
2:53:17PM WHAT'S BEING DISTRIBUTED IS A DRAFT, AUGUST 4, 2023 DRAFT OF
2:53:26PM THE PROPOSED REVISIONS.

2:53:28PM SO IF I COULD JUST HAVE YOU TURN TO THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 3 AND
2:53:33PM CONTINUING ON PAGE 4 AND PAGE 5, WHICH IS SUBSECTION
2:53:37PM 1-10.04, AGAIN, WHICH PROVIDE FOR EXEMPTIONS.
2:53:40PM AND SPECIFICALLY ITEM NUMBER 14 IN THAT LIST, WHICH IS ON
2:53:45PM PAGE 5, NEAR THE TOP OF PAGE 5, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IT
2:53:51PM EXEMPTS SOUND RELATED TO MUSIC OR OTHER ENTERTAINMENT
2:53:54PM ORIGINATING FROM EVENTS, VENUES OR BUSINESSES, AND THEN IT
2:53:58PM GOES ON TO LIST SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS THAT ARE EXEMPT FROM
2:54:01PM THE EPC'S NOISE POLLUTION RULE.
2:54:03PM SO THEY INCLUDE THE YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THE
2:54:07PM ARENA DISTRICT, WHICH ARE THE ONLY TWO AREAS IN THE CITY
2:54:10PM WHERE SOUND IS MEASURED ON A DECIBEL LEVEL STANDARD.
2:54:13PM SO THAT PART OF THE RULE IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR CITY
2:54:16PM REGULATIONS.
2:54:17PM YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THAT THEY HAVE ELIMINATED OR CROSSED OUT
2:54:23PM THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT,
2:54:26PM WHICH ARE TWO AREAS WHERE SOUND USED TO BE MEASURED ON A
2:54:29PM DECIBEL LEVEL STANDARD, BUT IN RECENT YEARS, THOSE AREAS
2:54:33PM HAVE BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE CITY REGULATIONS.
2:54:35PM SO IN THOSE AREAS OF THE CITY, SOUND IS MEASURED ON A
2:54:40PM PLAINLY AUDIBLE STANDARD.
2:54:42PM ANY SOUND THAT YOU CAN HEAR WITH YOUR NAKED EAR, NOT
2:54:44PM MEASURED ON A DECIBEL LEVEL STANDARD.
2:54:46PM BY CROSSING OUT THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND CHANNEL
2:54:48PM DISTRICT, AGAIN, THE RULE IS BEING MADE CONSISTENT WITH CITY

2:54:52PM REGULATIONS.
2:54:52PM SO THE PROBLEMATIC PART IS THE VERY END OF THAT SUBSECTION
2:54:57PM WHERE IT ADDS IN THE UNDERLINED TEXT AND THE AREAS
2:55:01PM DELINEATED IN THE TWO MAPS BELOW, WHICH ARE INCORPORATED AS
2:55:04PM PART OF THE SUBSECTION.
2:55:06PM SO IF YOU TURN BACK TO PAGES 7 AND 8 OF YOUR HANDOUT, IT
2:55:11PM SHOWS THE TWO MAPS THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BEING ADDED.
2:55:16PM YOU CAN SEE IN THE FIRST MAP THE AREA IN BOLD IS THE ENTIRE
2:55:20PM AREA THAT'S NOW PROPOSED TO BE CARVED OUT FOR EXEMPTION.
2:55:24PM YOU CAN SEE IT INCLUDES IN THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER THE
2:55:27PM YBOR HISTORIC DISTRICT AND ALSO DOWN TOWARDS THE END OF THE
2:55:31PM BIG AREA, THE ARENA DISTRICT, WHICH, AGAIN, ARE THE TWO
2:55:34PM AREAS WHERE WE MEASURE SOUND ON A DECIBEL LEVEL, BUT IT ALSO
2:55:38PM PICKS UP OR ADDS BACK INTO THE EXEMPTION THE HEIGHTS AREA,
2:55:43PM THE HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT WHERE ARMATURE WORKS IS AND SO
2:55:45PM FORTH.
2:55:46PM IT SEEMS TO ADD BACK IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT WHICH AGAIN
2:55:49PM WOULD MAKE IT INCONSISTENT WITH OUR NOISE REGULATIONS.
2:55:52PM IF YOU FLIP TO MAP NUMBER 2 ON PAGE 8, IT APPEARS TO
2:55:58PM ENCOMPASS THE MIDTOWN DEVELOPMENT.
2:56:02PM AND SO AGAIN THAT'S AN AREA WHERE SOUND IS STILL MEASURED IN
2:56:05PM THE CITY ON THE PLAINLY AUDIBLE STANDARD.
2:56:07PM SO BY INCORPORATING THESE TWO MAPS -- I'M SORRY, GOING BACK
2:56:10PM TO MAP 1, THE OTHER CONCERN THAT STAFF HAS IS THAT THE
2:56:15PM NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THIS AREA ACTUALLY GOES FARTHER THAN

2:56:19PM THE ARMATURE WORKS AND THE HEIGHTS DEVELOPMENT.
2:56:21PM IT ACTUALLY GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO COLUMBUS, AND THERE ARE A
2:56:24PM SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES BACK
2:56:27PM THERE THAT MIGHT BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY NOT HAVING THIS
2:56:31PM ENFORCEMENT TOOL IN THE TOOL BELT.
2:56:34PM SO, AGAIN, THE CHANGES THAT EPC IS PROPOSING ARE BEING
2:56:41PM PROPOSED UNILATERALLY BY EPC.
2:56:44PM THE CITY DIDN'T REQUEST THESE CHANGES.
2:56:45PM STAFF DOES NOT SUPPORT THESE CHANGES FOR THE REASONS I'VE
2:56:47PM DESCRIBED.
2:56:48PM WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT AREAS MIGHT BE NEXT BY EPC TO BE
2:56:51PM EXEMPTED OUT.
2:56:52PM THEN AGAIN, THE INCONSISTENCIES BETWEEN OUR REGULATIONS AND
2:56:55PM THE EPC MAY CAUSE CONFUSION AND DIFFICULTY IN ENFORCEMENT.
2:56:58PM AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WE STRUGGLED WITH NOISE ENFORCEMENT IN
2:57:04PM THE CITY AND WE TRY TO ADD TOOLS TO THE TOOLBOX AND THESE TO
2:57:07PM US APPEAR TO BE TAKING TOOLS OUT OF THE TOOLBOX.
2:57:10PM I DO HAVE A MOTION THAT I ALSO PROVIDED TO CITY COUNCIL.
2:57:17PM I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE TIMELINE.
2:57:19PM AUGUST 9, A WEEK OR TWO AGO, CITY STAFF MET WITH EPC STAFF
2:57:24PM TO DISCUSS OUR CONCERNS.
2:57:25PM WE ALSO ATTENDED A WORKSHOP.
2:57:27PM EPC WORKSHOP AS PART OF THEIR RULE MAKING LAST WEEK AT WHICH
2:57:32PM WE VOICED THE CONCERNS.
2:57:34PM THE EPC PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PROPOSED RULE CHANGES IS

2:57:38PM SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 21st, 2023.
2:57:40PM STAFF DOES INTEND TO PROVIDE SOME WRITTEN COMMENTS TO EPC.
2:57:44PM THEY HAVE ASKED FOR WRITTEN COMMENTS TO BE PROVIDED BY
2:57:47PM SEPTEMBER 1st OF 2023.
2:57:48PM WE WOULD ASK ALSO IF COUNCIL WERE SO INCLINED AND AGREED
2:57:55PM WITH OUR ASSESSMENT OF THINGS TO DRAFT A RESOLUTION
2:57:59PM OBJECTING TO THESE PROPOSED REVISIONS FOR THE REASONS I
2:58:02PM STATED AND FOR THAT RESOLUTION TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL
2:58:05PM AT NEXT THURSDAY'S EVENING MEETING, AUGUST 31st EVENING
2:58:10PM MEETING SO WE CAN PROVIDE COUNCIL'S WRITTEN COMMENT THROUGH
2:58:13PM THE RESOLUTION TO EPC AND THE DEADLINE WITH WHICH WE'VE BEEN
2:58:19PM REQUESTED TO DO SO.
2:58:20PM I DO HAVE A MOTION IF COUNCIL -- I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
2:58:23PM QUESTIONS.
2:58:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
2:58:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY IF YOU SAID THIS AND I MISSED IT.
2:58:28PM IF THE TWO -- IF THE CITY AND THE EPC ARE IN CONFLICT, DOES
2:58:32PM THE EPC SUPERSEDE US?
2:58:34PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: NO, WE HAVE CONCURRENT JURISDICTION.
2:58:36PM BOTH ENTITIES --
2:58:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT WOULD BE CONFUSING, AS YOU SAID.
2:58:40PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: CORRECT.
2:58:41PM NORMALLY WE'VE WORKED COOPERATIVELY WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE
2:58:44PM OUR REGULATIONS DOVETAIL WITH EACH OTHER AND ARE CONSISTENT.
2:58:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING IS THROUGH THE BUDGET

2:58:49PM PROCESS, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE HIGHLIGHTED THAT
2:58:52PM THERE'S A MILLION DOLLARS OR MORE IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
2:58:55PM BUDGET FOR LOBBYING AND GOVERNMENT RELATIONS, POLITICAL
2:58:58PM ACTIVITIES.
2:58:59PM SHOULDN'T WE ALSO ASK THAT DEPARTMENT TO UTILIZE THEIR
2:59:02PM RESOURCE TO TALK TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ABOUT -- WHEN
2:59:11PM WE ASKED THEM BEFORE, THEY HAVE TURNED US DOWN ON OTHER
2:59:14PM MATTERS.
2:59:14PM SINCE THE LEGAL STAFF IS IN FAVOR OF THIS, MAYBE THEY WOULD
2:59:17PM BE WILLING TO.
2:59:17PM BECAUSE WHAT I'VE NOTICED WHEN WE'VE DONE RESOLUTIONS, MOST
2:59:22PM GOVERNMENT AGENCIES DON'T PAY ATTENTION.
2:59:23PM THEY JUST THROW IT AWAY.
2:59:25PM SO THE WAY THAT YOU WOULD REALLY GET THIS DONE IS EITHER WE
2:59:28PM WOULD GO TALK TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO
2:59:33PM THAT OR THE LOBBYING TEAM WOULD DO THAT.
2:59:34PM SINCE WE SPEND SO MUCH MONEY -- SHOULD WE AMEND THE MOTION
2:59:38PM TO ASK THE LOBBYING TEAM --
2:59:40PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: COUNCIL CAN INCLUDE THAT IN THE
2:59:41PM MOTION AS WELL.
2:59:42PM I DO INTEND AND LEGAL STAFF INTENDS TO ATTEND THOSE -- THAT
2:59:46PM WORKSHOP ON SEPTEMBER 21st AS WELL.
2:59:51PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ANDREA ZELMAN.
2:59:54PM NOTHING THAT WOULD PRECLUDE ANY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL WHO
2:59:58PM HAS A RELATIONSHIP, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH A MEMBER OF THE EPC

3:00:02PM BOARD WHICH IS, IN FACT, THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS.
3:00:05PM THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD PRECLUDE YOU FROM CONTACTING ANY
3:00:09PM OF THOSE BOARD MEMBERS AND JUST VOICING THEIR CONCERN.
3:00:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:00:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO SOMETIMES IT'S HELPFUL WHEN YOU'RE IN
3:00:17PM THE BACK OF THE BUS BEING DRIVEN SOMEWHERE, SOMETIMES IT'S
3:00:21PM HELPFUL TO KNOW WHO DISPATCHED THE BUS AND WHO IS ACTUALLY
3:00:25PM SITTING BEHIND THE WHEEL OF THAT BUS.
3:00:28PM DO YOU HAVE SOME BACK STORY OF HOW THIS WAS -- THE ORIGIN
3:00:32PM STORY OF HOW THIS GOT BEFORE THE EPC TO BEGIN WITH?
3:00:35PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: NO.
3:00:36PM WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY STAFF IS THAT THERE WAS A NOISE
3:00:40PM CONSULTANT THAT MADE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I DON'T KNOW
3:00:43PM THAT -- AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN PROVIDED WITH ANY WRITTEN STUDY
3:00:46PM OR ANY WRITTEN RECOMMENDATION FROM A NOISE CONSULTANT.
3:00:49PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM OR WHAT THEIR
3:00:52PM RATIONALE IS.
3:00:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
3:00:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
3:00:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WASN'T THERE SOMETHING WRITTEN IN THE SITE
3:00:56PM PLAN NOTES OF A PARTICULAR PROJECT OR SOMETHING ABOUT NOISE?
3:01:00PM IS THAT RELATED TO THIS?
3:01:03PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: NO.
3:01:04PM THIS IS AN EPC RULE REVISION.
3:01:07PM THERE HAVE BEEN -- WE TRY TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY WITH OUR

3:01:15PM ORDINANCE AND THE EPC REGULATIONS AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE
3:01:18PM CONCURRENT JURISDICTION AND THE POTENTIAL FOR CONFUSION IF
3:01:21PM THEY ARE NOT CONSISTENT.
3:01:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
3:01:25PM I'M SORRY.
3:01:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
3:01:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION BUT DID YOU
3:01:30PM WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
3:01:31PM GO AHEAD.
3:01:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.
3:01:36PM REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
3:01:37PM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE A
3:01:42PM SECOND MOTION BECAUSE IT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
3:01:44PM THAT'S MY ONLY RECOMMENDATION.
3:01:46PM THANK YOU.
3:01:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
3:01:49PM MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN YOUR ADDITIONAL SECOND MOTION?
3:01:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: SURE.
3:02:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE WANTS TO ADD THAT PIECE.
3:02:01PM IT MIGHT AS WELL BE TOGETHER.
3:02:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY RECOMMENDATION WAS TO MAKE A SEPARATE ONE
3:02:05PM BECAUSE WE CAN STILL DO A LETTER.
3:02:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:02:10PM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO DRAFT
3:02:14PM A RESOLUTION OBJECTING TO PROPOSED REVISIONS TO SUBSECTION

3:02:18PM 1-10.0414 OF THE EPC NOISE POLLUTION RULE THAT ADD EXEMPTION
3:02:25PM AREAS DETAILED IN MAP 1 AND MAP 2 OF THE DRAFT REVISION
3:02:30PM DATED AUGUST 4th, 2023, AND THAT THAT RESOLUTION BE
3:02:34PM PRESENTED FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION ON AUGUST 31st,
3:02:39PM 2023 EVENING AGENDA.
3:02:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:02:42PM HENDERSON WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
3:02:44PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:02:45PM AYE.
3:02:45PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:02:46PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
3:02:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
3:02:51PM BEFORE ANDREA SAYS THAT THERE IS A CHARTER THING HERE, I'M
3:02:56PM GOING TO SAY, MOVE TO ASK -- WE'RE REQUESTING, NOT DIRECTING
3:03:02PM -- MOVE TO ASK THE POLITICAL ADVISORS AND LOBBYING TEAM OF
3:03:05PM THE CITY TO CONTACT THE EPC MEMBERS INDIVIDUALLY TO OBJECT
3:03:13PM TO THE PROPOSED REVISIONS.
3:03:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:03:20PM CARLSON WITH SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:03:23PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:03:23PM AYE.
3:03:24PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:03:24PM ANYTHING ELSE?
3:03:25PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:03:26PM AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED BY COUNCIL

3:03:31PM MEMBER HURTAK.
3:03:32PM IF WE COULD GET ITEM NUMBER 17.
3:03:35PM WE HAVE THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
3:03:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:03:39PM THE REASON I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY I PULLED THIS ITEM.
3:03:43PM I UNDERSTAND THAT PAL WAS SEPARATE AT ONE TIME, BUT WE'VE
3:03:47PM GOTTEN SOME COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY ASKING WHY IT NEEDS
3:03:51PM TO BE SEPARATE AND WHY IT CAN'T BE UNDER PARKS AND IF THIS
3:03:56PM WILL BE A COMPLETELY SEPARATE ENTITY.
3:03:58PM I GOT SOME FEEDBACK ALREADY, WHICH I APPRECIATED, BUT I
3:04:01PM STILL THOUGHT THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THIS.
3:04:06PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
3:04:07PM THIS AGREEMENT THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, IT IS A
3:04:09PM TRANSITION AGREEMENT.
3:04:10PM IT'S JUST THAT.
3:04:11PM IT IS A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PAL, THE
3:04:13PM FOUNDATION, THE 501(C)(3), THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND TWO
3:04:17PM DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE PARKS AND THE
3:04:20PM POLICE DEPARTMENT.
3:04:21PM THIS IS A COOPERATIVE EFFORT TO ENSURE THE ULTIMATE SUCCESS
3:04:25PM AND EXPANSION OF OUR YOUTH.
3:04:27PM IT IS NOT A TAKEOVER.
3:04:29PM IT IS A DO-NO-HARM SCENARIO.
3:04:31PM THE MISSION WILL NOT CHANGE.
3:04:34PM THE SCOPE OF SERVICES WILL NOT CHANGE.

3:04:37PM THE TRANSITION IS SCHEDULED TO TAKE ROUGHLY A YEAR TO TAKE
3:04:40PM PLACE, AND ANY EMPLOYEE THAT'S THERE IN GOOD STANDING WILL
3:04:45PM HAVE THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL TO STAY THERE.
3:04:48PM NOBODY IS GOING TO LOSE THEIR JOBS OR BE LAID OFF.
3:04:51PM SO BEFORE THIS TRANSITION ACTUALLY BEGINS, THE FIRST PART OF
3:04:56PM THIS IS GETTING THIS PROCESS APPROVED, COMMUNICATION WILL BE
3:04:59PM SEND OUT TO ALL EMPLOYEES, TO ALL PARENTS, TO ALL KIDS ABOUT
3:05:03PM HOW THIS WILL ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE.
3:05:05PM BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE AGREEMENT, WHICH DO YOU GUYS ALL HAVE
3:05:09PM A COPY OF IT?
3:05:10PM YOU COULD GO RIGHT ONTO PAGE 4, NUMBER 1, AND THIS IS
3:05:18PM UNDERNEATH --
3:05:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HE CAN PUT IT UP ON THE ELMO.
3:05:26PM >> SURE.
3:05:27PM I JUST WANT TO SHOW THE BOTTOM OF PAGE 3 ACTUALLY SHOWS THE
3:05:32PM CITY OF TAMPA PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND THEN
3:05:36PM MOVING ON TO PAGE 4, ON THE TOP, CONTINUE TO ASSIGN CITY
3:05:42PM STAFF TO FACILITIES FOR THE ATHLETIC AFTER-SCHOOL AND SUMMER
3:05:45PM SCHOOL PROGRAMS UNTIL THE TRANSITION PERIOD IS COMPLETE.
3:05:48PM AND THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE I HIGHLIGHTED THERE NUMBER 8
3:05:52PM ABOUT THE PERMITTING AND BASICALLY WHAT THIS AGREEMENT DOES
3:05:56PM IS HOLD ALL THESE ENTITIES ACCOUNTABLE TO ENSURE THAT THIS
3:06:00PM TRANSITION IS A SUCCESS.
3:06:02PM SO ANY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE DOING A GREAT
3:06:04PM JOB CAN CONTINUE TO STAY IF THAT'S WHAT THEY SO WISH.

3:06:08PM I KNOW ONE EMPLOYEE, OCEA WAS GOING TO BE WITH ME TODAY, ONE
3:06:12PM EMPLOYEE HAS ALREADY BEEN PROMOTED AND HAD A PROMOTION OUT
3:06:15PM OF THIS.
3:06:16PM THIS AGREEMENT IS THE FIRST STEP FOR HOLDING US ALL
3:06:20PM ACCOUNTABLE TO ENSURE THIS TRANSITION HAPPENS CORRECTLY.
3:06:23PM I COULD HAVE MAJOR BRETT OWEN GIVE YOU AN EXPLANATION OF
3:06:25PM PAL'S HISTORY.
3:06:27PM PAL DID START OUT UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
3:06:28PM IT MOVED TO THE PARKS AND REC.
3:06:30PM ALL WE WANT TO DO IS JUST BRING THAT BACK.
3:06:32PM IT IS A POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE THAT'S THERE TO BUILD BONDS
3:06:36PM BETWEEN POLICE OFFICERS AND KIDS, AND NOT TAKE ANYTHING WAY.
3:06:40PM NOT HAVE ANYBODY LOSE THEIR JOB AND JUST EXPAND IT AND MAKE
3:06:44PM IT EVEN BETTER THROUGH A COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT WITH
3:06:46PM EVERYBODY IN THIS AGREEMENT HERE.
3:06:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
3:06:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAD A QUESTION, AGAIN, FOR THE PUBLIC.
3:06:54PM THIS IS NOT -- THESE ARE NOT REPLICATIONS OF SERVICES THAT
3:07:00PM PARKS AND REC ALREADY PROVIDE.
3:07:04PM >> THEY ARE.
3:07:05PM BUT NEW EMPLOYEES THAT DO THAT.
3:07:07PM THE PARKS EMPLOYEES, IF THEY CHOOSE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE,
3:07:09PM THEY WILL HAVE ANOTHER AREA IN PARKS THAT THEY WOULD GO TO.
3:07:13PM BUT IT WOULD BE POLICE EMPLOYEES.
3:07:14PM THOSE PARTICULAR PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE COULD ACTUALLY STAY

3:07:18PM THERE IN THAT NEW ROLE.
3:07:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK MY QUESTION WAS, WHAT PAL DOES IS NOT
3:07:25PM SOMETHING THAT IS REPLICATED WITHIN THE REGULAR PARKS
3:07:29PM DEPARTMENT.
3:07:32PM >> YEAH, I'M NOT QUITE SURE.
3:07:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LIKE THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM, THE BOXING
3:07:38PM PROGRAM.
3:07:39PM >> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER PROGRAMS OUTSIDE OF PAL THAT
3:07:42PM IS REPLICATED LIKE THE FOOTBALL.
3:07:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD
3:07:48PM THIS IS NOT DUPLICATION OF SERVICES.
3:07:50PM >> CORRECT.
3:07:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAD HIS HAND UP.
3:07:53PM CARLSON AND THEN HENDERSON.
3:07:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.
3:07:57PM I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR PULLING THIS.
3:07:59PM I ALSO GOT CONCERNS ON IT.
3:08:02PM WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS PRIVATELY.
3:08:05PM I WANTED TO CONFIRM SOME THINGS I QUICKLY WROTE DOWN HERE,
3:08:08PM WHICH IS NUMBER ONE, YOU ALREADY SAID THIS, BUT JUST FOR THE
3:08:11PM RECORD, NO PARKS AND RECREATION EMPLOYEES AT ALL WILL BE LET
3:08:15PM GO BECAUSE OF THIS, CORRECT?
3:08:16PM >> ABSOLUTELY NOT.
3:08:17PM IN FACT, ONE HAS ALREADY BEEN PROMOTED.
3:08:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: LIKE YOU SAID.

3:08:20PM IN FACT, ALL INDIVIDUALS WITHIN PARKS AND RECREATION WHO ARE
3:08:23PM AT THEIR PRESENT POSITION CAN STAY IN THAT POSITION, ALBEIT
3:08:28PM UNDER A DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT, CORRECT?
3:08:29PM >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS ASSUMING THEY ARE IN GOOD
3:08:32PM STANDING WITH THE CITY.
3:08:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY.
3:08:34PM YES.
3:08:34PM CITY COUNCIL, WE STILL HAVE, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, JURISDICTION
3:08:37PM OVER THIS IN THE SENSE THAT WE CAN, IF NEW ISSUES COME UP,
3:08:41PM ET CETERA, WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE CONTROL OVER THIS,
3:08:44PM INCLUDING WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA BUDGET AS THIS WILL BE
3:08:46PM FUNDED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, CORRECT?
3:08:48PM >> I WOULD NEED LEGAL TO VERIFY THAT.
3:08:50PM I KNOW FOR BUDGET, YES, IT IS A BUDGET REQUEST.
3:08:53PM ANY MORE PARTICULARS, I NEED LEGAL'S EXPERTISE ON THAT.
3:08:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, AND THAT'S FINE.
3:08:57PM AND THERE WERE MORE STEPS INCLUDING THE BUDGET.
3:08:59PM SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE LEARNED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, THIS
3:09:02PM COMES BEFORE US AT THE BUDGET, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO FUND OR
3:09:05PM NOT TO FUND THIS CORRECT?
3:09:07PM >> AGAIN, I WOULD NEED LEGAL.
3:09:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: SOMEONE IS SAYING YES BEHIND YOU.
3:09:11PM I'LL TAKE THAT AS A YES.
3:09:15PM THAT'S ALL.
3:09:17PM I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THOSE THINGS, ET CETERA.

3:09:19PM I KNOW WE'LL HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS ON IT WITH A VERY
3:09:24PM VALID CONSTITUENT WHO REACHED OUT ON THE ISSUE.
3:09:27PM AT THIS TIME, IT IS A COMMITMENT.
3:09:28PM MAYBE THIS IS SERIOUS DATING MOVING IN, AN ENGAGEMENT, BUT
3:09:32PM NOT YET THE WEDDING.
3:09:33PM JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT.
3:09:35PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH THAT.
3:09:36PM JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT.
3:09:37PM THANK YOU.
3:09:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON, HENDERSON, CLENDENIN.
3:09:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: I APOLOGIZE.
3:09:42PM I DIDN'T HAVE A PRIVATE CONVERSATION WITH YOU ABOUT IT
3:09:44PM BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
3:09:45PM I HEARD SOME BUZZ ABOUT IT, BUT I DIDN'T GET THE SAME KIND
3:09:50PM OF FEEDBACK.
3:09:50PM BUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE GOT A LOT OF CONCERN IN THE
3:09:56PM COMMUNITY ABOUT THE NONPROFITS THAT THE CITY CONTROLS AND
3:10:00PM WHO MANS THEM, TRANSPARENCY, ET CETERA.
3:10:02PM I'LL ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS REAL FAST.
3:10:05PM IS THIS A NONPROFIT OR IS IT JUST A BRAND THAT THE CITY OWNS
3:10:09PM AND CONTROLS?
3:10:10PM >> PART OF THIS AGREEMENT ACTUALLY HAS THE ROLES OF THE
3:10:13PM NONPROFIT IN THERE AND THE ROLE OF NONPROFIT IS JUST TO
3:10:15PM RAISE MONEY FOR IT, NOT TO CONTROL THE OPERATIONS.
3:10:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: WILL THAT NONPROFIT HAVE A BOARD SEPARATELY?

3:10:21PM >> YES.
3:10:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHO APPOINTS THE BOARD?
3:10:23PM >> I WOULD HAVE TO PULL UP THEIR CHARTER TO LOOK AT IT AND
3:10:26PM THEIR COUNCILS.
3:10:27PM THEIR FUNCTION IS JUST TO RAISE MONEY FOR THIS, NOT TO
3:10:29PM CONTROL THE OPERATIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE.
3:10:31PM THEY ARE A FUND-RAISING ARM AND THAT'S IT.
3:10:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN WILL -- I ASSUME THE NONPROFIT HAS
3:10:39PM FILE 990, WHATEVER, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH MONEY THEY RAISE.
3:10:43PM WILL THE CITY PUT ANY KIND OF DISCLOSURE OF THE FINANCIALS
3:10:47PM OF THE NONPROFIT?
3:10:49PM WHERE -- I'M ASKING FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES, WHERE WILL
3:10:52PM PEOPLE BE ABLE TO FIND --
3:10:54PM >> NONPROFIT IS REQUIRED TO FILE ALL THE APPROPRIATE PAPER
3:10:57PM WORK LIKE ANY OTHER NONPROFIT.
3:10:58PM I IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE THERE, A LINK FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE.
3:11:03PM WE COULD WORK THAT OUT.
3:11:04PM BUT THAT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION THAT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE
3:11:07PM STATE.
3:11:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY TO HIT YOU WITH THIS, BUT DO YOU THINK
3:11:13PM IT WILL BE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE OR JUST WHEREVER --
3:11:16PM >> WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO BE MORE PUBLIC AND TRANSPARENT WE
3:11:19PM WILL.
3:11:19PM AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S LAID OUT.
3:11:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

3:11:23PM YOU KNOW, WE WERE ASKING SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT WE FUND TO
3:11:28PM DISCLOSE WHO THE BOARD IS, HOW MUCH MONEY THEY RAISE, WHAT
3:11:31PM THEY SPEND THE MONEY ON.
3:11:32PM SO THAT WOULD ALL BE HELPFUL IF THAT COULD BE PUBLIC.
3:11:35PM >> IF I MAY INTERRUPT, MEGAN NEWCOMB FROM THE LEGAL
3:11:38PM DEPARTMENT.
3:11:38PM AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT THAT'S BEFORE COUNCIL, THE PAL
3:11:41PM BOARD, WHICH IS SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT FROM THE CITY DOES
3:11:47PM AGREE THAT THEY WILL MAINTAIN THEIR FINANCIAL REPORTS AND
3:11:49PM GIVE THE CITY COPIES IF REQUESTED BY THE CITY.
3:11:52PM SO THE CITY WILL BE PRIVY TO EVALUATING THE PAL BOARD'S
3:11:56PM OPERATIONS.
3:11:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: DOES IT STATE WHO PICKS THE BOARD?
3:12:03PM >> NOT WITHIN THIS AGREEMENT.
3:12:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: CHIEF, ARE THERE OTHER NONPROFITS THAT ARE
3:12:07PM AFFILIATED LIKE THIS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW?
3:12:11PM >> AS FAR AS FOR YOUTH ACTIVITIES, NO, WE HAVE OUR POLICE
3:12:14PM FOUNDATION THAT WE HAVE, THAT'S FOR COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND
3:12:17PM SAFETY EQUIPMENT.
3:12:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THAT THE ONLY OTHER NONPROFIT THAT IS
3:12:22PM AFFILIATED WITH -- JUST TRYING TO BE THE INFORMATION --
3:12:25PM >> THE ONLY ONE AFFILIATED WITH PAL IS THIS.
3:12:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: POLICE DEPARTMENT.
3:12:29PM ANY OTHER SUPPORT NONPROFITS.
3:12:31PM >> MEMORIAL COMMITTEE FOR OUR FALLEN OFFICERS AND MEMORIALS

3:12:33PM THAT WE HAVE.
3:12:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANY OTHERS BESIDES THAT?
3:12:38PM >> OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO I CAN
3:12:41PM THINK OF.
3:12:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: DOES THAT ONE HAVE THE SAME KIND OF
3:12:45PM TRANSPARENCY, DO YOU KNOW?
3:12:47PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
3:12:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ANYTHING.
3:12:49PM I'M NOT CRITICIZING, ESPECIALLY NOT THE MEMORIAL FOUNDATION.
3:12:54PM WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT AS THE PUBLIC ASKS, IF WE PUT,
3:12:58PM JUST SO WE CAN DISCLOSE PUBLICLY WHO IS GIVING MONEY.
3:13:02PM JUST LIKE WE HAVE TO DISCLOSE IF SOMEBODY BUYS US LUNCH OR
3:13:06PM SOMETHING, PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW WHO IS TRYING TO INFLUENCE
3:13:08PM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, RIGHT?
3:13:09PM IT IS THE SAME WITH ANY DEPARTMENT.
3:13:10PM WHO IS TRYING TO INFLUENCE THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT.
3:13:13PM THE MORE WE CAN DISCLOSE ABOUT WHO IS GETTING PAID, WHERE
3:13:16PM THE MONEY IS COMING FROM WOULD BE BETTER FOR THE PUBLIC.
3:13:19PM JUST A REQUEST, THANK YOU.
3:13:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, COUNCIL MEMBER
3:13:23PM CLENDENIN, THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:13:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU DR. CHIEF.
3:13:27PM IN DOING MY RESEARCH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FOUND OUT IS
3:13:32PM THAT A FORMER POLICE CHIEF GAVE UP PAL, AND IT WENT TO PARKS
3:13:36PM AND REC BECAUSE THE POLICE CHIEF DID NOT WANT TO WORK WITH

3:13:40PM THE PAL BOARD.
3:13:41PM SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SPEAK ON
3:13:44PM THAT HISTORY.
3:13:44PM SO THAT ACTUALLY CONCERNS ME BECAUSE THE PAL BOARD IS MADE
3:13:49PM UP OF A BODY OF PEOPLE WHO WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO THEY ARE.
3:13:53PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR BYLAWS ARE.
3:13:54PM SO I DON'T WANT TO JUMP INTO ANOTHER PAL BOARD WHERE THERE
3:13:58PM MAY BE SOME COMPLICATIONS THAT WE CAN'T GET OUT OF AND YOU
3:14:01PM OR ANY OF US MAY LOSE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT PAL
3:14:05PM BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE DECISIONS MADE THROUGH THIS
3:14:07PM PARTICULAR BOARD.
3:14:08PM SO THAT'S ONE ISSUE.
3:14:10PM >> WHAT I CAN ADDRESS TO THAT IS THE PAL BOARD BACK THEN HAD
3:14:12PM DIFFERENT ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.
3:14:14PM UNDER THIS NEW AGREEMENT, THEY ARE LIMITED TO JUST
3:14:17PM FUND-RAISING.
3:14:17PM SO THAT WOULD BE A MOOT POINT AT THIS POINT.
3:14:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: STILL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT PROBABLY IN
3:14:23PM WRITING WOULD PROBABLY BE THE BEST.
3:14:25PM >> I BELIEVE IT IS IN THIS CONTRACT, IT IS IN THERE.
3:14:28PM I'LL FIND IT.
3:14:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO THE DOCUMENT
3:14:32PM YOU'RE SHARING WITH US.
3:14:34PM IF WE COULD GET COPIES, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
3:14:37PM >> IT WAS SUBMITTED IN SIRE.

3:14:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
3:14:39PM I KNOW IT WAS THERE.
3:14:40PM I WANT IT IN FRONT OF ME.
3:14:42PM I'M SORRY.
3:14:42PM I SHOULD PRINT STUFF OUT.
3:14:44PM NOW I KNOW WHY I SHOULD PRINT STUFF OUT.
3:14:46PM ALSO, THERE IS NOT NECESSARILY PAL BOARD, GOING ON TO
3:14:52PM GRANTS.
3:14:53PM SO THERE IS A PARTICULAR GRANT THAT WAS WRITTEN MAYBE OVER A
3:14:57PM MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIRD-PARTY PROGRAMS TO COME INTO THE
3:14:59PM PAL PROGRAM.
3:15:00PM >> YEAH, AND THAT'S ANOTHER REASON FOR THIS TO HAPPEN IS
3:15:03PM JUST BEING BEHIND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY
3:15:05PM THROUGH THE DOJ AND THE COPS OFFICE TO HAVE A BETTER CHANCE
3:15:09PM AT RECEIVING GRANTS SO THAT WOULD JUST BE ANOTHER REASON WHY
3:15:13PM THIS TRANSITION SHOULD HAPPEN.
3:15:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHO IS GOING TO DECIDE WHO THESE PROGRAM
3:15:19PM FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE THAT'S GOING TO WORK WITH OUR YOUTH?
3:15:21PM HOW ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE THAT?
3:15:23PM THROUGH THE PAL BOARD?
3:15:25PM BECAUSE THEY ARE FUND-RAISING --
3:15:26PM >> THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
3:15:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY THE POLICE
3:15:31PM DEPARTMENT.
3:15:32PM >> OUR OFFICERS OUT THERE IN CONJUNCTION THROUGH ME.

3:15:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SOMETHING ELSE.
3:15:37PM IT'S ALMOST LEAVING ME.
3:15:39PM I MIGHT HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK.
3:15:54PM >> I PUT ON THE ELMO THE PAL'S RESPONSIBILITIES.
3:15:58PM 1 THROUGH 15 ON THE SCREEN.
3:16:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT IS THAT 58-YEAR-OLD BRAIN.
3:16:04PM THE FEES FOR THE KIDS.
3:16:05PM CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT?
3:16:06PM ANY FEES TO THE CHILDREN OF PAL?
3:16:09PM AND WILL GRANT FUNDS SUPPORT THAT IF PARENTS CAN'T PAY?
3:16:13PM >> FIRST OF ALL, THERE ARE SOME FEES, THE FEES WILL NOT GO
3:16:15PM UP AND WE WILL ACTUALLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF SCHOLARSHIPS
3:16:18PM TO WHERE MORE KIDS CAN GO WITH NO FEES.
3:16:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
3:16:22PM EVEN AS WE'RE DECIDING BUDGETS, THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS IN
3:16:25PM THE COMMUNITY WHO FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD INCREASE FEES --
3:16:29PM >> NOT IN THIS PROGRAM.
3:16:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
3:16:33PM PARENTS WHO ARE LISTENING, YOU CAN HEAR THAT COMING
3:16:35PM DIRECTLY.
3:16:36PM >> ADDITIONAL SCHOLARSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.
3:16:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:16:41PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
3:16:42PM THE LAST THING, IT FELL UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT I AM THE
3:16:46PM CHAIR OF PARKS AND REC.

3:16:47PM AS THE NEW CHAIR OF PARKS AND REC, THE COMMUNICATION SHOULD
3:16:50PM HAVE BEEN OPEN TO ME TO AT LEAST KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING
3:16:55PM PRIOR TO IT BEING A COMMUNITY COMPLAINT.
3:16:57PM THAT'S HOW I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.
3:16:59PM JUST IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH, BECAUSE PUBLIC
3:17:03PM SAFETY IS UNDER POLICE AND PARK AND RECREATION IS UNDER A
3:17:06PM DIFFERENT COMMITTEE, THE BLENDING OF THE COMMUNICATION
3:17:10PM SHOULD BE VERY CLEAR AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
3:17:14PM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
3:17:15PM >> YOU'RE 100% CORRECT.
3:17:17PM OUR WORLD FALLS UNDER ALL THE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES.
3:17:19PM YOU'RE 100% CORRECT.
3:17:22PM >> COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
3:17:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.
3:17:31PM [ LAUGHTER ]
3:17:31PM YOU KNOW, OUR VERY FIRST CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH YOU
3:17:39PM WAS WHEN YOU WERE ACTING, HAD ACTING I THINK IN YOUR NAME.
3:17:45PM HOW IMPORTANT I FELT THAT IT WAS FOR US TO BRING BACK PAL.
3:17:49PM I THINK IT'S A CRITICAL ELEMENT.
3:17:51PM I THINK IT'S A HUGE STEP FORWARD.
3:17:54PM I HAVE CONFIDENCE AND A LEAP OF FAITH THAT AS WE MOVE
3:17:58PM FORWARD WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVING AND TO DO THE
3:18:02PM RIGHT THING WHEN IT COMES TO THE DEPARTMENT AND WORKING WITH
3:18:04PM OUR YOUTH.
3:18:06PM YOU HAVE 100% OF MY SUPPORT ON THIS.

3:18:09PM EVERYBODY IS ACCOUNTABLE IN GOVERNMENT.
3:18:11PM THAT'S ONE THING, FOLKS ON THE OUTSIDE SAY, TALK ABOUT
3:18:15PM PRIVATE BUSINESS.
3:18:16PM NO BUSINESS HAS THE EYES ON IT THE WAY GOVERNMENT HAS EYES
3:18:20PM ON IT.
3:18:20PM EVERYTHING WE DO IS SUBJECT TO PUBLIC SCRUTINY.
3:18:23PM AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROGRAM, I THINK PEOPLE THAT
3:18:25PM HAVE MAYBE SOME RESERVATIONS AND CONCERNS, AS THE PROGRAM
3:18:29PM EVOLVES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS.
3:18:32PM WE KNOW WHERE TO FIND YOU.
3:18:34PM WE CAN COME BACK AND QUESTION YOU AS THINGS WORK.
3:18:36PM AGAIN, YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT ON THIS.
3:18:38PM I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY.
3:18:41PM IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE KIDS THAT LIVE IN OUR
3:18:43PM COMMUNITY TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM BACK IN PLACE, AND
3:18:49PM LIKE YOU SAY, THE GRANT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE
3:18:51PM TO DO SOME GREAT THINGS, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHERE THIS
3:18:55PM GOES.
3:18:55PM I'M GLAD I'M AN EARLY SUPPORTER OF IT AND I THANK YOU FOR
3:18:59PM PICKING UP THE BALL AND RUNNING WITH IT.
3:19:02PM >> ME, TOO.
3:19:02PM IT'S EXCITING.
3:19:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIRANDA.
3:19:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:19:05PM I'M THINKING WAY BACK WHEN I REMEMBER LAWRENCE, I FORGET HIS

3:19:09PM NAME, HEAD OF PAL, HE PASSED AWAY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO I
3:19:12PM BELIEVE.
3:19:14PM HE WAS A POLICE OFFICER, VERY NICE GENTLEMAN.
3:19:16PM HE IS THE ONE -- I REMEMBER HIM WHEN WE WERE CUSCADEN PARK
3:19:19PM AND HE WOULD COME BY AS AN OFFICER, YOUNG GUY.
3:19:22PM THEN I THINK YOU HAVE THE CHALLENGE FUND OR SOMETHING, DON'T
3:19:25PM YOU?
3:19:25PM THE FUND THAT I MANAGE ONCE IN A WHILE, SEND A CHECK TO
3:19:31PM SOMEBODY IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
3:19:33PM >> MEMORIAL FUND PROBABLY.
3:19:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BUT THERE IS ANOTHER ONE.
3:19:36PM BOWLING THING.
3:19:37PM >> PROBABLY RISE TAMPA.
3:19:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RISE TAMPA.
3:19:40PM THAT'S IT.
3:19:40PM I REMEMBER THOSE THINGS.
3:19:42PM WHAT YOU GUYS DO IS GREAT.
3:19:45PM GROWING UP AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT LIFE WAS ABOUT AT CUSCADEN
3:19:49PM PARK AND ALL AREAS THERE, WHEN MOST OF THE PEOPLE DIDN'T
3:19:52PM HAVE ANYTHING BUT THEY HAD EVERYTHING BECAUSE THEY HAD
3:19:56PM FRIENDS AROUND THEM.
3:19:57PM NOW EVERYBODY HAS EVERYTHING AND THEY HAVE NOTHING.
3:19:59PM WHEN I SEE THESE THINGS IS THAT YOU TRY TO NOT FORCE
3:20:04PM ANYBODY, BUT YOU TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE KIDS UNDERSTAND
3:20:07PM THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU WEAR A BADGE YOU'RE NOT A BAD PERSON.

3:20:11PM AND THAT I THINK CHANGES PEOPLE A LOT.
3:20:13PM IF YOU DON'T GET THESE KIDS WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG AND PUT THEM
3:20:17PM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, GUESS WHAT HAPPENS.
3:20:20PM SOMEBODY THAT'S A LITTLE OLDER DOING SOMETHING NOT TOO
3:20:24PM LEGAL, GOT A COUPLE OF DOLLARS, THEY SAY, OH, HOW COME YOU
3:20:27PM GOT THAT MONEY?
3:20:28PM WHERE DID YOU GET IT FROM?
3:20:29PM AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT CREATE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
3:20:32PM WE CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE CRIME.
3:20:34PM AND WHAT YOU GUYS DO, ALL OF YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF
3:20:39PM THE POLICE FORCE IS UNBELIEVABLE TO TRY TO CURB CRIME, NOT
3:20:43PM TODAY, BUT IN THE FUTURE.
3:20:45PM BECAUSE YOU'RE HANDLING THEM IN THE RIGHT WAY.
3:20:48PM BUT THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
3:20:51PM >> THANK YOU.
3:20:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
3:20:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: REALLY QUICK, IF I MAY, I WANTED TO CLARIFY
3:20:55PM SOMETHING FOR COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
3:20:57PM THEY DIDN'T COME TO ME.
3:20:59PM I CAME TO THEM.
3:20:59PM THEY ARE LIKE, OH, MY GOD, HE IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE PUBLIC
3:21:03PM SAFETY COMMITTEE.
3:21:03PM SO YOU ALL NEVER CAME TO ME.
3:21:05PM I CAME TO YOU ALL BECAUSE OF A VERY, VERY VALID CONSTITUENT
3:21:08PM WHO IS ALSO A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE HAD A QUESTION, JUST TO

3:21:12PM CLARIFY.
3:21:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
3:21:16PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
3:21:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
3:21:18PM SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BOARD ITSELF WILL FUND RAISE AND
3:21:28PM MAINTAIN FINANCIALS BUT WHO DECIDES HOW TO SPEND THAT MONEY?
3:21:32PM >> THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TO BE THE ONE RUNNING THE
3:21:35PM DEPARTMENT.
3:21:35PM WE WILL BE THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING THE BILLS, GETTING
3:21:38PM THE PROGRAMS EXECUTED, HAVING THE OFFICERS THERE.
3:21:40PM SO THE ULTIMATE RESPONSIBILITY IS GOING TO FALL ON THE
3:21:43PM POLICE DEPARTMENT, OF COURSE, WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
3:21:44PM PARKS ASSISTING US, BUT THE PRIMARY WOULD BE US.
3:21:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO YOU HAVE SOMEONE WITHIN YOUR DEPARTMENT
3:21:50PM WHO IS GOING TO BE THAT FOCUS POINT?
3:21:52PM >> YES, I HAVE A SERGEANT OVER THERE AND FOR THE FIRST TIME
3:21:54PM WE HAVE A LIEUTENANT.
3:21:56PM WE'LL HAVE A SERGEANT, LIEUTENANT, AND DEPUTY CHIEF CALVIN
3:21:59PM JOHNSON.
3:22:00PM THAT'S HIS PRIMARY DUTY TO OVERSEE ALL OF THAT.
3:22:02PM ADMINISTRATOR, MANAGER AND SUPERVISOR IN THAT ROLE.
3:22:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
3:22:06PM SO THAT, I THINK, GIVES US KIND OF A LITTLE MORE CLARITY ON
3:22:11PM THAT.
3:22:11PM I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THROW IN MY PLUG, WHICH I DID

3:22:16PM LAST NIGHT BECAUSE THE BUDGET EVENT LAST NIGHT WAS AT PAL,
3:22:20PM WHICH WAS GREAT.
3:22:21PM I GOT TO SEE THE FACILITY FOR MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL.
3:22:27PM I KNOW THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A PAL THING, BUT
3:22:30PM JUST KIND OF THROW THAT BACK OUT THERE.
3:22:32PM REALLY LOVE TO SEE AN INCREASE IN YOUTH ACTIVITIES
3:22:36PM THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
3:22:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:22:42PM >> DON'T THE RULES ONLY ALLOW ONE COMMENT -- I'M JUST
3:22:45PM KIDDING.
3:22:45PM [ LAUGHTER ]
3:22:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SUCH A NICE GUY.
3:22:48PM [ LAUGHTER ]
3:22:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S TWO AND
3:22:56PM UP TO FIVE MINUTES EACH.
3:22:58PM WE WERE TALKING ABOUT OTHER NONPROFITS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO
3:23:02PM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
3:23:03PM MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED ONE CALLED RISE TAMPA.
3:23:06PM IS THAT ONE STILL EXIST?
3:23:08PM >> THAT IS THE ONE I MENTIONED TO YOU.
3:23:09PM THE TAMPA POLICE FOUNDATION IS RISE TAMPA AND THE MEMORIAL
3:23:13PM COMMITTEE.
3:23:13PM THOSE ARE THE TWO I MENTIONED.
3:23:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT ONE RAISES MONEY ALSO IN THE COMMUNITY?
3:23:18PM >> YES.

3:23:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: LEGAL CAN TELL US WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT I
3:23:25PM THINK THAT EITHER AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION OR IN ADDITION
3:23:27PM TO THE RESOLUTION, THAT WE SHOULD ASK FOR CITY COUNCIL TO BE
3:23:33PM UPDATED ANNUALLY WITH THE FINANCIAL REPORTS OF RISE TAMPA
3:23:40PM AND ALSO THE PAL NONPROFIT.
3:23:44PM JUST WHATEVER HAS TO GO IN FOR THE IRS REPORTS, BUT JUST SO
3:23:48PM WE HAVE TRANSPARENCY.
3:23:49PM AND I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THAT IT NEEDS TO BE POSTED TO THE
3:23:52PM WEBSITE SO THE PUBLIC SEES, THAT JUST KEEPS US FROM HAVING
3:23:56PM LOTS OF QUESTIONS.
3:23:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: [INAUDIBLE]
3:24:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BIANNUALLY, SIX MONTHS.
3:24:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THEM NOT HAVE TO DO
3:24:04PM EXTRA WORK.
3:24:05PM IF YOU ALL HAVE TO REPORT QUARTERLY ANYWAY, WE CAN ASK FOR
3:24:08PM COPIES OF THAT.
3:24:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S JUST A PRINTOUT.
3:24:10PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: MAY I SUGGEST THAT YOU MAKE THAT DURING NEW
3:24:13PM BUSINESS.
3:24:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT UNTIL THE END.
3:24:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE IT AFTER I MAKE THIS MOTION?
3:24:18PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE HERE SO WE DON'T PUT ANYTHING
3:24:21PM THAT THEY OBJECT TO.
3:24:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
3:24:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

3:24:27PM CAN YOU TELL ME THE LENGTH OF TIME, YOU SAID THAT THIS
3:24:30PM AGREEMENT HAS BEEN WORKED ON, CAN YOU GIVE ME HOW LONG
3:24:32PM THAT'S BEEN TAKING PLACE?
3:24:34PM >> THE ONE THAT'S BEFORE YOU NOW?
3:24:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: UM-HUM.
3:24:37PM LIKE WHEN DID IT START?
3:24:39PM >> I DON'T HAVE THE TIME IN FRONT OF ME, BUT MAYBE FOUR,
3:24:42PM FIVE MONTHS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS BACK AND FORTH
3:24:44PM BETWEEN ALL THE ENTITIES.
3:24:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THERE WAS
3:24:47PM CONCERN ABOUT, PEOPLE ARE JUST HEARING ABOUT THIS, AND YOU
3:24:50PM CONFIRMED THAT FOR ME YESTERDAY THAT THAT'S NOT TRUE.
3:24:53PM YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR MONTHS.
3:24:55PM >> YEAH, AFTER THIS AGREEMENT IS SIGNED, THEN WE WOULD START
3:24:58PM A FORMAL COMMUNICATION PROCESS WITH THE STUDENTS AND THE
3:25:01PM FAMILY AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
3:25:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THINK IT ALSO IS A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO
3:25:07PM HEAR FROM THE ADMINISTRATOR, MS. WYNN, AT THIS TIME, TOO,
3:25:10PM BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT JUST SO SHE CAN SHED LIGHT ON
3:25:14PM ANYTHING REGARDING THIS AS WELL.
3:25:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
3:25:18PM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND
3:25:22PM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
3:25:25PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, THIS AGREEMENT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS
3:25:27PM SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, THE END OF LAST YEAR.

3:25:29PM ONE THING, GOT IN JUST A LITTLE LATE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE
3:25:35PM SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT OUR PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM WILL
3:25:38PM BE WORKING ALONGSIDE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WITH THE
3:25:42PM POLICE OFFICERS, FOR THE NEXT SIX TO NINE MONTHS AS WE GO
3:25:45PM THROUGH THIS TRANSITION.
3:25:47PM JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF THAT.
3:25:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE DID SAY THAT YESTERDAY THROUGH 2024.
3:25:53PM OR EVEN LONGER THAN SIX MONTHS?
3:25:59PM >>OCEA WYNN: RIGHT NOW WE'RE TARGETING FOR AROUND APRIL.
3:26:01PM BUT WE'LL GAUGE THAT DEPENDING ON THE TRANSITION.
3:26:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
3:26:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE
3:26:17PM ITEM 17?
3:26:18PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
3:26:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
3:26:20PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:26:21PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:26:22PM AYE.
3:26:22PM NITROGEN MANAGEMENT.
3:26:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE THE OTHER MOTION?
3:26:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
3:26:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF TO
3:26:30PM PUBLISH QUARTERLY FINANCIAL REPORTS OF RISE TAMPA AND THE
3:26:33PM PAL NONPROFIT ON THE CITY WEBSITE AND SEND COPIES TO CITY
3:26:38PM COUNCIL WITH THE PURPOSE OF DISCLOSING WHO IS DONATING AND

3:26:41PM HOW THE DONATIONS ARE SPENT.
3:26:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
3:26:45PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: MEGAN, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE PAL AGREEMENT
3:26:48PM INCLUDED LANGUAGE REQUIRING THEM TO PROVIDE US WITH REPORTS.
3:26:54PM DO YOU KNOW IF WE HAVE A SIMILAR ARRANGEMENT WITH RISE?
3:26:57PM >> I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA.
3:26:59PM I KNOW LITTLE TO NOTHING ABOUT THE RISE FOUNDATION.
3:27:01PM SO I'M -- I WILL LOOK INTO IT.
3:27:04PM I CAN'T REPRESENT THAT WE CAN COMPLY WITH THAT.
3:27:06PM WITH PAL, IT HAS IT IN THE AGREEMENT.
3:27:08PM SO THAT I CAN REPRESENT TO COUNCIL THAT PAL HAS AGREED NOW
3:27:12PM THAT THIS AGREEMENT HAS GONE THROUGH AND ASSUMING PAL BOARD
3:27:14PM SIGNS THE AGREEMENT AFTER YOU ALL HAVE APPROVED IT, THEN
3:27:17PM THEY WILL PROVIDE THAT.
3:27:18PM BUT RISE TAMPA I WOULD HAVE TO DO RESEARCH.
3:27:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU ALL HAVE A PROBLEM, COME BACK TO US
3:27:22PM AT A FUTURE MEETING.
3:27:23PM >> I'LL LET YOU KNOW.
3:27:24PM I JUST CAN'T REPRESENT THAT TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
3:27:26PM I DON'T KNOW.
3:27:26PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WANT TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS IN
3:27:29PM OUR CODE, ANY NONPROFIT THAT RECEIVES A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
3:27:34PM CITY FUNDS HAS AN OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE REPORTS TO US, BUT I
3:27:38PM DON'T HONESTLY KNOW WHETHER THAT FOUNDATION RECEIVES CITY
3:27:43PM FUNDS AND/OR HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH US TO PROVIDE THEIR

3:27:47PM FINANCIAL RECORDS.
3:27:49PM >> THEY DON'T PROVIDE, THEY DON'T RECEIVE ANY CITY FUNDS.
3:27:51PM THAT I KNOW.
3:27:54PM >> RIGHT.
3:27:55PM I'M JUST NOT SURE WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA'S RELATIONSHIP IS
3:27:58PM TO RISE TAMPA FOUNDATION.
3:28:00PM I JUST DON'T KNOW.
3:28:01PM I'D HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT.
3:28:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: LET'S MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTION AND THEN
3:28:05PM YOU ALL CAN INVESTIGATE AND COME BACK AND PRESENT TO US IF
3:28:08PM THERE IS AN ISSUE.
3:28:09PM >> WILL DO.
3:28:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:28:11PM CARLSON.
3:28:12PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
3:28:14PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:28:14PM AYE.
3:28:15PM ANY OPPOSED.
3:28:16PM >> NAY.
3:28:17PM >> NAY.
3:28:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I FEEL LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF INFORMATION
3:28:28PM THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PASS THAT AT THIS POINT.
3:28:30PM I THINK WE NEED -- I THINK THE MOTION WOULD HAVE TO BE
3:28:34PM AMENDED TO SAY FOR FUNDS THAT RECEIVE CITY FUNDS.
3:28:40PM I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE SOME CONSEQUENCES OF IT OR SOME

3:28:44PM BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON IT.
3:28:45PM ON THE SURFACE IT SOUNDS INNOCUOUS BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
3:28:49PM DETAILS ARE.
3:28:49PM THAT'S THE REASON WHY I VOTED NO.
3:28:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CHIEF, I WANT TO ASK YOU, ONE MORE
3:28:54PM QUESTION, WOMEN THE POLICE OFFICERS BE IN UNIFORM WHEN THEY
3:28:56PM ARE WORKING WITH THE KIDS AND WEARING THEIR GUNS?
3:28:59PM >> THEY ARE IN RELAXED ATTIRE.
3:29:01PM SO THEY DO STILL HAVE THEIR GUNS, OBVIOUSLY.
3:29:04PM WE DON'T WANT AN ACTIVE SHOOTER TO COME AND NOT BE PREPARED.
3:29:07PM BUT THEY ARE IN RELAXED ATTIRE WITH GOLF SHIRTS.
3:29:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DO THEY DO TRAINING TO WORK WITH KIDS?
3:29:14PM >> YES, THEY DO.
3:29:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY DON'T PLAN ON ARRESTING ANYBODY WHILE
3:29:18PM THERE?
3:29:19PM >> HOPEFULLY NOT.
3:29:19PM THAT'S NOT THE GOAL FOR THOSE EVENTS.
3:29:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
3:29:23PM I'M EXCITED FOR YOU ALL.
3:29:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, THIS WILL SAVE US TIME.
3:29:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IS NO TIME TO BE SAVED.
3:29:35PM TOO LATE FOR THAT.
3:29:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I HAVE TO LEAVE HERE AT 5.
3:29:40PM I DIDN'T THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.
3:29:42PM I HAVE ITEM 120.

3:29:45PM MAY I ON THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, MAY I MOVE THAT TO THE NEXT
3:29:48PM COUNCIL MEETING JUST TO SAVE US TIME?
3:29:50PM I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
3:29:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE NEXT REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING.
3:29:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: ITEM NUMBER 120.
3:29:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 120.
3:30:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE.
3:30:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:30:17PM VIERA.
3:30:19PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
3:30:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEPTEMBER 7.
3:30:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:30:26PM THIS WILL BE UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
3:30:28PM AYE.
3:30:29PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:30:29PM THANK YOU.
3:30:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
3:30:31PM THANK YOU, JUSTIN, FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT.
3:30:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 61 WAS PULLED.
3:30:39PM NITROGEN CONSORTIUM.
3:30:42PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
3:30:42PM McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
3:30:44PM ITEM 61 IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING A DECLARATION OF
3:30:48PM COOPERATION OF THE TAMPA BAY NITROGEN CONSORTIUM AND THE
3:30:51PM CITY OF TAMPA.

3:30:52PM IN CASE THE PUBLIC OR YOU ALL ARE NOT FAMILIAR, THE TAMPA
3:30:57PM BAY NITROGEN CONSORTIUM IS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE TAMPA
3:31:00PM BAY ESTUARY PROGRAM.
3:31:04PM THIS DECLARATION COMES UP FOR RECOMMITMENT FOR ALL OF THE
3:31:06PM MEMBERS EVERY FIVE YEARS.
3:31:07PM THE CITY'S COST IS 7,500.
3:31:11PM IT'S A CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE REASONABLE ASSURANCE
3:31:17PM DOCUMENT THAT THE CONSORTIUM PUTS TOGETHER FOR SUBMITTAL TO
3:31:20PM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND REVIEW AND
3:31:24PM CONCURRENCE BY THE U.S. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY
3:31:29PM REGARDING REGIONAL DISCHARGES INTO THE TAMPA BAY.
3:31:32PM STAFF AND I ARE AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
3:31:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
3:31:35PM I JUST WANTED TO BRING THIS FORWARD BECAUSE TO ME THIS GOES
3:31:40PM ALONG WITH THE RECLAIMED WATER ISSUE THAT WE ARE DEALING
3:31:43PM WITH -- OR, I'M SORRY, THE BENEFICIAL REUSE OF WASTEWATER.
3:31:51PM AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GET THAT ON PEOPLE'S RADAR
3:31:53PM BECAUSE NEXT WEEK AT THE WORKSHOP WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING
3:31:57PM ABOUT THIS.
3:31:59PM I JUST -- I THINK IT'S VERY INTERESTING RIGHT NOW HOW WE ARE
3:32:06PM APPROVING THIS, AND THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING, BUT THE
3:32:09PM STATE HAS DECIDED THAT NO CITY OR MUNICIPALITY CAN NOW
3:32:13PM REGULATE FERTILIZER THAT DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE AN ORDINANCE.
3:32:17PM THERE IS A CONCERN THAT THAT COULD COME BACK NEXT YEAR IN
3:32:20PM THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO COMPLETELY BAN FERTILIZER

3:32:24PM RESTRICTIONS.
3:32:25PM AND IF THAT WERE THE CASE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR HANDS
3:32:30PM TIED, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FIX THE PROBLEM.
3:32:33PM SO I, AGAIN, KIND OF WANTED TO BRING ALL THIS STUFF ON
3:32:37PM PEOPLE'S RADAR SO THEY KNEW THAT WE ARE WORKING.
3:32:40PM AND THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS WORKED REALLY HARD TO MAINTAIN OUR
3:32:44PM NUTRIENT -- OUR NITROGEN LOAD THAT WE ARE PUTTING OUT.
3:32:50PM SO I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
3:32:51PM BUT I ALSO JUST WANTED PEOPLE TO START THINKING ABOUT THIS
3:32:55PM BECAUSE AS YOU'VE SAID, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS
3:32:58PM DISCHARGE, SO JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GET IT ON EVERYBODY'S
3:33:04PM RADAR BEFORE NEXT WEEK.
3:33:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THAT ITEM, 61?
3:33:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I WILL.
3:33:10PM UNLESS ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS.
3:33:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
3:33:12PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:33:14PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
3:33:15PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
3:33:16PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:33:17PM AYE.
3:33:17PM DO WE NEED MORE THAN FOUR VOTES -- NEVER MIND.
3:33:23PM THESE ARE BIG NUMBERS COMING UP.
3:33:27PM MR. BAIRD.
3:33:29PM >>BRAD BAIRD: BRAD BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF

3:33:32PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
3:33:32PM HERE ON ITEMS 110 THROUGH 114.
3:33:38PM ITEM 110 IS GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE NUMBER 2 ASSOCIATED
3:33:45PM WITH THE DAVID L. TIPPIN WATER TREATMENT FACILITY MASTER
3:33:49PM PLAN.
3:33:50PM SPECIFICALLY THESE ARE THE ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS, AND THIS
3:33:54PM IS THE SECOND APPEARANCE IN FRONT OF CITY COUNCIL, SO IT IS
3:33:57PM UP FOR APPROVAL THIS TIME.
3:33:58PM I DID PROVIDE A DETAILED PRESENTATION LAST AT THE FIRST
3:34:04PM APPEARANCE AS WELL AS INDIVIDUAL BRIEFINGS.
3:34:10PM WITH THAT, I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
3:34:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE
3:34:14PM RESOLUTION?
3:34:15PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:34:17PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
3:34:19PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:34:19PM AYE.
3:34:21PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:34:21PM YES, SIR, ITEM 111.
3:34:22PM >>BRAD BAIRD: 111 IS AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA
3:34:28PM AND WESTRA CONSTRUCTION CORPORATION.
3:34:31PM IN THE AMOUNT OF ALMOST $4 MILLION FOR VALVE AND FIRE
3:34:35PM HYDRANT ASSESSMENT AND REPLACEMENT AT 57 SITES CITYWIDE.
3:34:44PM AND I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL AS WELL ON THAT.
3:34:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.

3:34:49PM DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE 111?
3:34:51PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:34:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
3:34:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:34:57PM AYE ANY OPPOSED?
3:34:59PM >>BRAD BAIRD: ITEM 112 IS AN AGREEMENT AGAIN BETWEEN THE
3:35:05PM CITY OF TAMPA AND WESTRA FOR $7.7 MILLION ASSOCIATED WITH
3:35:10PM CITYWIDE WATER MAIN IMPROVEMENTS DESIGN-BUILD.
3:35:14PM THIS IS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT TWO MILES OF PIPELINE REPLACEMENT
3:35:18PM ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD NEAR DOWNTOWN, AROUND UNIVERSITY OF
3:35:23PM TAMPA, AND WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH F.D.O.T. SO WE CAN SAVE
3:35:29PM SOME RESTORATION COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS WORK.
3:35:34PM I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
3:35:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHY AM I RAISING MY HAND?
3:35:40PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
3:35:41PM I KNOW THAT THERE WERE IMPROVEMENTS ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD
3:35:44PM WHERE THEY TORE UP THE ROAD NEAR HYDE PARK AND KENNEDY
3:35:48PM RECENTLY.
3:35:48PM THIS IS A TOTALLY SEPARATE --
3:35:52PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS IS TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM THAT.
3:35:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS MIGHT BE THE OTHER SIDE OF THE
3:35:55PM STREET.
3:35:55PM I DON'T KNOW.
3:35:56PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YES.
3:35:56PM THIS IS IN THE EASTBOUND LANES.

3:35:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
3:36:00PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:36:00PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THIS RESOLUTION?
3:36:01PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:36:03PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
3:36:05PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:36:05PM AYE.
3:36:06PM ITEM 113, I THINK WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR.
3:36:13PM THE CAUSTIC SODA.
3:36:15PM >>BRAD BAIRD: PURCHASE OF LIQUID CAUSTIC SODA FOR pH
3:36:18PM ADJUSTMENT AT THE TIPPIN WATER FACILITY.
3:36:21PM I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
3:36:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
3:36:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR NO PRICE
3:36:27PM ESCALATION, BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG CHUNK OF CHANGE.
3:36:30PM I NOTICED SEVERAL OF THESE ON THE AGENDA THIS WEEK WITH NO
3:36:34PM PRICE ESCALATION.
3:36:35PM JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
3:36:36PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
3:36:36PM YOU'RE WELCOME.
3:36:37PM I MENTIONED TO MENTION THAT.
3:36:38PM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
3:36:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
3:36:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE A QUESTION JUST FOR LEARNING
3:36:43PM PURPOSES.

3:36:44PM DOES THAT MEAN IT IS THE SAME COMPANY THAT'S GETTING -- DID
3:36:49PM IT GO OUT TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO BID ON IT AND THEY STILL
3:36:52PM JUST HAPPENED TO BE THE LOWEST?
3:36:53PM >>BRAD BAIRD: YEAH.
3:36:54PM I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT, THANK YOU.
3:36:56PM THIS IS A RENEWAL.
3:36:58PM WE DID HAVE THREE BIDDERS.
3:37:01PM ONE OF THE BIDS HAD WE THROWN OUT WAS ACTUALLY A LOW BID
3:37:04PM BECAUSE THE UNIT PRICE WAS PER DRY TON AND THIS IS PER WET
3:37:08PM TON.
3:37:09PM SO WE WENT WITH THE SECOND LOW BIDDER OF BRENT TAG MID-SOUTH
3:37:13PM BUT WE DID GET THREE PROPOSALS.
3:37:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, HOW MUCH SODIUM
3:37:19PM HYDROXIDE IS IT?
3:37:20PM LIKE HOW MUCH IS IT, A THOUSAND POUNDS OR 10,000 POUNDS?
3:37:26PM >>BRAD BAIRD: LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THAT HERE.
3:37:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS CURIOUS.
3:37:31PM $4 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR SODIUM.
3:37:35PM >>BRAD BAIRD: I DON'T HAVE HOW MANY TONS IT IS.
3:37:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS A YEAR'S SUPPLY.
3:37:38PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THIS IS A YEAR, YES.
3:37:40PM IT'S ACTUALLY 1,250,000 TO FINISH UP THIS YEAR.
3:37:45PM ANY OUTSTANDING INVOICES AND 3 MILLION FOR NEXT YEAR.
3:37:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
3:37:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.

3:37:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:37:57PM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
3:37:59PM THE LAST ONE, YOU HAVE $16 MILLION.
3:38:00PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THE LAST ONE IS 114, AND THIS IS AN AGREEMENT
3:38:06PM BETWEEN RELIABLE TAMPA PARTNERS AND WHARTON-SMITH/GARNEY
3:38:11PM JOINT VENTURE IN THE AMOUNT OF $16.3 MILLION FOR DIGESTER
3:38:21PM NUMBER 7 REHABILITATION AS PART OF THE HOWARD F. CURREN
3:38:25PM ADVANCED WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT MASTER PLAN.
3:38:27PM I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
3:38:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
3:38:31PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
3:38:34PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
3:38:35PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
3:38:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:38:37PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:38:39PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:38:41PM >>BRAD BAIRD: THANK YOU.
3:38:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEMS 115 AND 116 WE POSTPONED THEM.
3:38:49PM WE TOOK THEM OFF THE AGENDA.
3:38:52PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ITEM 115.
3:38:57PM THAT WAS ALREADY DONE.
3:38:59PM OKAY.
3:39:00PM MR. BHIDE, YOU ARE UP FOR ITEM 117 REGARDING SHUTTING DOWN
3:39:06PM ROADS FOR DOWNTOWN EVENTS.
3:39:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SET THIS UP?

3:39:10PM THIS IS A PERIODIC UPDATE THAT THEY ARE DOING.
3:39:13PM THE REQUEST GOING BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS WAS TAMPA IS
3:39:17PM BECOMING MORE URBAN.
3:39:18PM DOWNTOWN IS DEVELOPED AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO SHUT DOWN
3:39:21PM ALL THE ROADS DURING ONE EVENT AT ONE FACILITY.
3:39:24PM I THINK NONE OF THE STAKEHOLDERS AGREED WITH THAT AND THE
3:39:26PM PLAN HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED IN 10 OR 15 YEARS.
3:39:29PM MR. BHIDE AND THE POLICE HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY ON THIS
3:39:33PM FOR A WHILE.
3:39:33PM SO I'LL LET YOU.
3:39:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BHIDE, GO AHEAD, SIR.
3:39:40PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
3:39:41PM GOOD AFTERNOON.
3:39:42PM VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
3:39:44PM AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON MENTIONED, THIS IS A THIRD UPDATE
3:39:50PM MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON RELATIVE TO SPECIAL EVENT
3:39:54PM OPERATIONS IN OUR DOWNTOWN.
3:39:56PM AND AS HE MENTIONED, OUR DOWNTOWN HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST
3:40:00PM FEW YEARS, AND WE HAVE BEEN UPDATING, BUT ESPECIALLY SINCE
3:40:04PM THIS MOTION HAS BEEN MADE, WE'VE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT
3:40:08PM CHANGES OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
3:40:10PM SO THE MOST CURRENT UPDATE AS OF TODAY IS THAT WE WORKED
3:40:16PM WITH TPD AND -- TO IDENTIFY ALONG EUNICE STREET ADDITIONAL
3:40:25PM RIDE SHARE PICK UP AND DROP OFF LOCATIONS.
3:40:28PM THESE ARE BEING MONITORED.

3:40:29PM THEY ARE WORKING WELL, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR
3:40:33PM PARTNERS AS OUR DOWNTOWN EVOLVES TO FACILITATE BETTER
3:40:37PM OPPORTUNITIES.
3:40:39PM WE ALSO MADE SIGNIFICANT SIGNAL TIMING IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR
3:40:42PM SPECIAL EVENT PLANS, BOTH ON THE IMPACT GEOGRAPHICALLY, SO
3:40:49PM JUST SOUTH OF BROREIN OR CUMBERLAND AND THE OTHER IN TERMS
3:40:55PM OF DELAYS.
3:40:55PM CYCLE LENGTHS ARE MUCH LOWER WHICH WILL FACILITATE ALL
3:40:59PM TRAFFIC AND NOT JUST SPECIAL EVENT BOUND TRAFFIC AS FAR AS
3:41:05PM THOSE OPERATIONS ARE CONCERNED.
3:41:07PM AND THEN WE'VE ALSO CONTINUED TO WORK WITH PARTNERS ON
3:41:14PM ADDITIONAL MONITORING AND DATA COLLECTION AS THIS REGION
3:41:19PM EVOLVES.
3:41:20PM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL THAT WE'RE
3:41:22PM WORKING TOWARDS WITHIN THIS AREA THAT SPECIFICALLY BENEFIT
3:41:29PM HARBOUR ISLAND AND HARBOUR ISLAND RESIDENTS.
3:41:31PM WE'RE LOOKING AT A PROJECT AT FRANKLIN AND WATERS STREET.
3:41:36PM THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE WORKED WITH HARBOUR ISLAND RESIDENTS
3:41:39PM ON AS WELL TO IMPLEMENT BETTER TRAFFIC CONTROL OUT THERE AND
3:41:45PM AT THE CROSS WALK IN FRONT OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AND HAVE
3:41:48PM IT OPERATE SIMILAR TO THE REST OF THE DOWNTOWN GRID WHERE
3:41:51PM YOU HAVE THESE 250-FOOT LOTS USING SIGNALS, PROGRESS TRAFFIC
3:41:57PM AND PEDESTRIANS AT THE SAME TIME.
3:41:59PM SO MORE WORK TO BE DONE, OF COURSE, BUT AVAILABLE TO ANSWER
3:42:06PM ANY QUESTIONS.

3:42:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANY QUESTIONS?
3:42:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS.
3:42:11PM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THEM COME BACK ON MARCH 7
3:42:16PM FOR AN UPDATE AGAIN, PLEASE.
3:42:17PM 2024.
3:42:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
3:42:22PM ANY DISCUSSION?
3:42:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL MAKE MY PLUG ONE MORE TIME AS YOU
3:42:26PM GUYS LOOK AT THIS PLAN TO FIGURE OUT BROREIN AND MORGAN TO
3:42:30PM FORCE PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME OFF THE CROSSTOWN NOT TO HAVE TO
3:42:33PM TURN NORTH INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD SO THEY CAN CONTINUE ON
3:42:36PM BROREIN.
3:42:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: I SECOND THAT.
3:42:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, WAS
3:42:41PM THE SECOND VIERA?
3:42:42PM THIS IS FROM MARCH 7 FOR THE NEXT UPDATE.
3:42:45PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:42:45PM AYE.
3:42:48PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:42:48PM YES, MA'AM.
3:42:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
3:42:52PM THAT'S TANGENTIALLY RELATED TO THIS.
3:42:56PM WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PLAN FOR THE PARKING GARAGES TO
3:43:00PM HAVE THE DIGITAL DISPLAYS THAT SHOW HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS
3:43:05PM ARE AVAILABLE, TO ME, THIS KIND OF GOES WITH WAYS TO MANAGE

3:43:10PM TRAFFIC DURING A LARGE EVENT, BUT, HONESTLY, EVERY DAY.
3:43:15PM IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE WORKING POSSIBLY WITH THE CRA
3:43:21PM ON FOR FUNDING?
3:43:24PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO GREAT QUESTION.
3:43:27PM THE ANSWER IS WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE CRAs.
3:43:31PM SO THE CRA RECENTLY ON BOARDED A CONSULTANT TO DO AN
3:43:37PM AREA-WIDE, AS IN THE URBAN CORE, SIGNAGE AND WAY-FINDING
3:43:43PM PLAN.
3:43:44PM AND THE PARKING GUIDANCE PLAN, FOR THE PARKING GUIDANCE
3:43:49PM SYSTEM WILL CONSIDER THAT PLAN AND VICE VERSA.
3:43:52PM SO IT WILL COMPLEMENT EACH OTHER.
3:43:54PM SO THAT'S ONE PART OF GUIDANCE AND WAY-FINDING THAT WE'RE
3:43:59PM WORKING ON.
3:44:00PM THE OTHER ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON ARE WITH THEA.
3:44:05PM IN FACT, OUR TEAM CURRENTLY IS MEETING WITH THEA REVIEWING
3:44:08PM CERTAIN CONCEPTS AROUND LIGHTING, AROUND MORGAN AND
3:44:13PM CHANNELSIDE, RELATIVE TO THEIR PROPOSED PROJECTS AS WELL.
3:44:17PM THERE ARE A FEW MAJOR PROJECTS AROUND THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
3:44:19PM SO ALL OF THESE WILL WORK TOGETHER AND ARE BEING CONSIDERED
3:44:23PM TOGETHER.
3:44:23PM AND THEN SOMEWHAT RELATED BUT NOT DIRECTLY WE'RE WORKING
3:44:28PM WITH THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP ON BOTH MOBILITY SERVICES AS
3:44:32PM WELL AS MARION AND OTHER PARTS OF THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP'S
3:44:38PM SERVICE AREA.
3:44:40PM BUT THEY WILL ALL BE CONNECTED AND CONSIDERED TOGETHER.

3:44:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
3:44:43PM IT LOOKS LIKE MR. MASSEY WOULD LIKE TO.
3:44:46PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: REAL QUICKLY BECAUSE THIS CAME UP AT THE
3:44:49PM CRA AND YOU WANTED A MEMO OR E-MAIL.
3:44:53PM I CHECKED WITH REVENUE AND FINANCE ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY IS
3:44:55PM COMING FROM RELATIVE TO THE PARKING SIGNAGE PLAN.
3:44:58PM AND IT'S COMING FROM THE USER FEES FROM THE PARKERS OF THE
3:45:01PM PARKING GARAGE.
3:45:02PM IT IS NOT COMING OUT OF ANY OTHER SOURCE.
3:45:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOW.
3:45:06PM SO WE CAN GET $7 MILLION OUT OF PARKING FEES?
3:45:09PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT'S APPARENTLY.
3:45:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOW.
3:45:11PM YOU ROCK.
3:45:12PM THANK YOU.
3:45:12PM WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN -- THAT
3:45:15PM CONSTITUENTS, AS THEY GO THROUGH THE BUDGET, HAVE ASKED
3:45:18PM ABOUT.
3:45:19PM AND THAT IS A REALLY GOOD ANSWER.
3:45:20PM SO THANK YOU.
3:45:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WASN'T ALWAYS LIKE THAT.
3:45:22PM I REMEMBER IN MY FIRST CAMPAIGN THAT ONE OF THE MAIN
3:45:27PM QUESTIONS WAS PARKING LOSES MONEY YEAR AFTER YEAR.
3:45:30PM DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.
3:45:30PM NOW, DUE TO POLICY CHANGES AND GROWTH --

3:45:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CONGRATULATIONS, VIK.
3:45:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD JOB, VIK.
3:45:40PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:45:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: SAME THING.
3:45:42PM VIK TOOK A LOT OF HEAT WHEN WE PASSED THAT A FEW YEARS AGO,
3:45:46PM AND WE TOOK SOME HEAT.
3:45:47PM BUT IT'S NECESSARY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SUBSIDIZE THINGS LIKE
3:45:50PM THAT.
3:45:51PM UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
3:45:52PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THAT.
3:45:54PM ALSO, VIK, SPP PHASE TWO WHERE THE FLOWER MILL WAS, I'M SURE
3:46:01PM YOU KNOW WHEN YOU CROSS -- WHEN THEY CROSS MERIDIAN TO GO
3:46:05PM OVER TO CHANNELSIDE, IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE CROSSING DALE
3:46:07PM MABRY.
3:46:08PM I KNOW THEY ARE TALKING TO THEA, BUT IF YOU THINK WE NEED TO
3:46:12PM WEIGH IN, WE CITY COUNCIL NEED TO WEIGH IN WITH THEA, PLEASE
3:46:16PM LET US KNOW.
3:46:17PM I KNOW WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO IS -- I THINK THAT'S GOING TO
3:46:21PM BE A PIECE OF CONNECTIVITY WE NEED TO FIX.
3:46:24PM THANK YOU.
3:46:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:46:25PM THAT CONCLUDES THAT ITEM.
3:46:28PM THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE.
3:46:29PM WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND PATIENCE.
3:46:31PM NEXT UP IS THE JACKSON HOUSE.

3:46:33PM MR. DRUMGO.
3:46:40PM >>ALIS DRUMGO: GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
3:46:42PM HOPE YOU ALL ARE HAVING A GREAT THURSDAY.
3:46:44PM FOR THE RECORD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR ALIS DRUMGO.
3:46:47PM I JUST WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU TODAY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH
3:46:51PM AN UPDATE.
3:46:52PM STAFF WAS REQUESTED TO EXPLORE THE POTENTIAL OF THE CITY
3:46:55PM PURCHASING THE JACKSON HOUSE AND SUBSEQUENTLY 504 EMINENT
3:46:58PM DOMAIN FOR THE PROPERTY NECESSARY TO RESTORE THE HOUSE.
3:47:02PM YOU SAW FOLKS COME IN THIS MORNING AND ALSO DR. COLLINS SITS
3:47:06PM BEHIND ME.
3:47:07PM I CAN BE VERY DIRECT AND SAY THAT THE HOUSE IS NOT FOR SALE.
3:47:10PM THE FOUNDATION IS ALSO NOT SUPPORTIVE OF UTILIZING EMINENT
3:47:15PM DOMAIN AS A SOLUTION TO RETAIN THE PROPERTY NECESSARY TO GO
3:47:18PM FORWARD.
3:47:18PM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, THE ACCARDIS, HAVE BEEN VERY
3:47:21PM RECEPTIVE AND COOPERATIVE ALONG AND THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
3:47:26PM JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON IT, THEY HAVE ALSO
3:47:28PM PROVIDED SOME ACCESS ACROSS THEIR PROPERTY IN THE PAST TO
3:47:32PM ALLOW FOR THE STABILIZATION OF THAT STRUCTURE.
3:47:34PM SO I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR LEGAL COUNSEL BUT I KNOW
3:47:39PM THE PROCESS OF EMINENT DOMAIN IS LENGTHY.
3:47:41PM IT IS TIME-CONSUMING, AND IT CAN TAKE YEARS AND CAN BE AN
3:47:45PM EXPENSIVE APPROACH TO RESOLVING THIS ISSUE.
3:47:47PM AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GUARANTEE THE OUTCOME THAT I

3:47:49PM THINK YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THAT FOLKS IN GENERAL
3:47:52PM WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND THAT IS REALLY A FULL RESTORATION OF
3:47:55PM THE JACKSON HOUSE IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION WITH RETENTION OF
3:47:59PM THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION.
3:48:00PM SO WE'VE OPERATED PARALLEL TO THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST WITH
3:48:04PM THAT IN MIND.
3:48:05PM WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE
3:48:10PM FOUNDATION TO FIGURE OUT A PATH FORWARD.
3:48:12PM I WILL SAY I DO BELIEVE THAT PATH -- DISCUSS THAT PATH WITH
3:48:16PM YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY AND I WOULD LIKE TO REFRAIN FROM
3:48:19PM GETTING INTO THE NUANCES OF THAT PATH TODAY WITH RESPECT TO
3:48:22PM THE PROCESS.
3:48:23PM AS YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OVER UNTIL IT'S OVER AND NOT
3:48:26PM OFFICIALLY LOCKED IN UNTIL IT'S LOCKED IN.
3:48:29PM IF IT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL, WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE
3:48:31PM TO TAKE SOME OF WHAT WE SHARED WITH YOU, PUT IT INTO A
3:48:35PM FORMAL AGREEMENT AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
3:48:39PM IDEALLY, I WAS TALKING TO ATTORNEY MASSEY A FEW MINUTES AGO
3:48:42PM BECAUSE HE'S BEEN HELPING AND SUPPORTING ON THIS.
3:48:45PM LIKE TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK TO YOU SEPTEMBER 21st WITH A
3:48:48PM FORMAL AGREEMENT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND AT THAT TIME,
3:48:51PM YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE TERMS AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO PREPARE
3:48:54PM THE EXHIBITS TO GET US CLOSURE ON THIS, HOPEFULLY.
3:49:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:49:03PM BEFORE I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS, LIKE I MENTIONED THIS

3:49:06PM MORNING, THE FIRST THING I MENTIONED, BEFORE I EVEN GOT
3:49:09PM SWORN IN, WHAT ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE.
3:49:12PM I CAN SHOW YOU PICTURES BECAUSE I LIKE TO GO AROUND THE CITY
3:49:16PM AND TAKE PICTURES OF OLD STRUCTURES AND EXPLORE.
3:49:20PM AND THE JACKSON HOUSE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON MY RADAR AND ON MY
3:49:23PM MIND SINCE PROBABLY COLLEGE.
3:49:25PM I WOULD SAY 2005.
3:49:27PM AND I REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE MY FRIENDS AND I WOULD COME
3:49:30PM DOWNTOWN, MAYBE EVEN EARLIER, 2004, AND THERE WAS THE GOODY
3:49:33PM GOODY BUILDING WHICH ISN'T THERE.
3:49:35PM THE MAAS BROTHERS BUILDING DEMOLISHED IN '06.
3:49:39PM WE'D GO DOWNTOWN, EXPLORE AND TAKE PICTURES OF THE OLD
3:49:42PM BUILDINGS.
3:49:43PM BUT THE JACKSON HOUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH
3:49:46PM IT, BUT WE KNOW HOW SPECIAL THAT IS.
3:49:49PM ESPECIALLY THE STORY, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE.
3:49:51PM THE SIGNIFICANCE AND IMPORTANCE OF CENTRAL AVENUE.
3:49:56PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON MENTIONED IT EARLIER, THE BLACK
3:49:58PM BUSINESS DISTRICT.
3:49:59PM THINK ABOUT YBOR CITY, BLACK YBOR CITY.
3:50:03PM RESPECTABLE PEOPLE.
3:50:04PM TOMORROW NIGHT I'M MEETING WITH THE GRANDSON OF MOSES WHITE,
3:50:08PM A LEADERS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER WHO WAS THERE DURING THE
3:50:11PM RISE OF '67, KNEW VERY WELL THE JACKSON HOUSE.
3:50:15PM I COULD GO ON AND ON.

3:50:17PM I'VE HAD A VERY TREMENDOUS FASCINATION WITH IT.
3:50:19PM BUT I'VE HAD A FASCINATION WITH RESTORING IT AND DOING
3:50:23PM SOMETHING WITH IT.
3:50:25PM I AM GOING TO BRING THIS UP BECAUSE I THINK IT MAKES SENSE.
3:50:31PM I HAVE THESE WEIRD ANALOGIES, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT SAY,
3:50:34PM OH, IT'S FALLING APART.
3:50:36PM STRONG ONE IS GOING TO BLOW IT OVER.
3:50:38PM I THINK IT CAN BE RESTORED.
3:50:39PM I THINK IT CAN BE SAVED AND BROUGHT BACK TO ITS SPLENDOR.
3:50:43PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW IN THE NEWS, WHATEVER, BUT THERE WAS
3:50:45PM A CAR AUCTION THE OTHER DAY.
3:50:50PM A RED FERRARI, IT IS A HUNK OF MEDAL FROM THE 1950s SOLD
3:50:55PM FOR $1.9 MILLION.
3:50:57PM YESTERDAY, SAYS $2 MILLION TO RESTORE IT TO GET IT ROAD
3:51:01PM WORTHY.
3:51:01PM THIS LOOKS LIKE A CAR CRASH.
3:51:03PM IT SAYS THE RESULTS WILL BE PRICELESS.
3:51:07PM WORTH 10 TO 15 MILLION DOLLARS BECAUSE IT IS A CAR.
3:51:10PM IN THIS SCENARIO, THE RESULT WILL BE PRICELESS WHEN PEOPLE
3:51:13PM CAN SAY WITH A MILLION HERE, THIS MONEY THERE, THE RESULT
3:51:17PM WILL BE PRICELESS BECAUSE CENTRAL AVENUE WAS ESSENTIALLY
3:51:20PM WIPED OUT.
3:51:22PM IT WAS DEMOLISHED.
3:51:24PM THERE'S VERY FEW, LONGSHOREMEN'S BUILDING, KID MASON, THE
3:51:29PM CHURCH NOW RESTORED.

3:51:30PM TALKED ABOUT THE BELL.
3:51:31PM THE JACKSON HOUSE.
3:51:33PM VERY FEW STRUCTURES THAT YOU CAN SAY, LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT
3:51:36PM THIS HISTORY.
3:51:37PM YOU CAN GO TO YBOR CITY, GO DOWN 7th AVENUE, EVEN THOUGH
3:51:42PM IT DOESN'T LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME LIKE IT DID 60, 70 YEARS
3:51:44PM AGO, I CAN TAKE YOU AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT IT WAS LIKE FOR
3:51:47PM THE ITALIANS AND THE CUBANS AND THE SPANIARDS AND THE
3:51:48PM GERMANS, ON AND ON AND ON.
3:51:50PM THIS HOUSE IS SO IMPORTANT THAT IT HAS TO BE SAVED.
3:51:53PM IT HAS TO BE SAVED NOT JUST FOR US, FOR THE COMMUNITY TODAY,
3:51:57PM BUT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TELL THE STORY
3:52:00PM OF WHAT WAS THERE, AND WE HAVE TO TELL THE STORY OF ALL THE
3:52:04PM IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAT MOVED THROUGH THERE.
3:52:05PM SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEPTEMBER 21st.
3:52:09PM AGAIN, I'LL GO TO ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT I THINK THIS
3:52:15PM MOTION IS THE CATALYST THAT WE NEEDED TO GET THE BALL
3:52:18PM ROLLING FOR THESE DISCUSSIONS SO WE CAN FINALLY SAVE THIS
3:52:23PM PLACE.
3:52:25PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU MADE THIS MOTION.
3:52:27PM I'LL START WITH YOU.
3:52:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
3:52:30PM FOR ANYBODY WHO IS ONLY WATCHING NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME, I
3:52:33PM MADE A LONG SPEECH THIS MORNING WHICH I WON'T REPEAT.
3:52:36PM I'VE BEEN TRYING TO SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE MORE THAN TEN

3:52:39PM YEARS AND MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO THAT AND
3:52:44PM REPRESENTATIVES ARE HERE TODAY.
3:52:45PM THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO TRIED TO DO THIS.
3:52:50PM I SAID MANY TIMES THIS BUILDING IS IMPORTANT FOR CENTRAL
3:52:53PM AVENUE.
3:52:53PM IT'S IMPORTANT FOR MR. ROBINSON'S FAMILY.
3:52:59PM IT'S IMPORTANT TO TELL THE STORY OF HOW TAMPA WAS CONNECTED
3:53:02PM TO CUBA AND THE MUSIC AND ALL THAT.
3:53:04PM BUT IT'S ALSO BECAUSE IT IS ACROSS FROM TAMPA UNION STATION,
3:53:08PM IT'S IMPORTANT SYMBOL AND DISCUSSION ABOUT SEGREGATION IN
3:53:12PM TAMPA.
3:53:12PM MY KIDS KNOW VERY WELL WHAT THE JACKSON HOUSE IS AND THEY
3:53:15PM HAVE BEEN THERE LOTS OF TIMES ON THE OUTSIDE.
3:53:17PM AND WILL CONTINUE TO TELL THOSE STORIES.
3:53:20PM I THINK YOU ALL KNOW I'M SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THE JACKSON
3:53:22PM HOUSE THAT I HAVE A PAINTING BY DEAN MITCHELL THAT'S ON MY
3:53:25PM WALL.
3:53:26PM WHEN WE DO REMOTE MEETINGS, IT'S ALWAYS IN THE BACKGROUND
3:53:29PM BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE THE STATEMENT THAT WE NEED TO SAVE
3:53:32PM THAT.
3:53:32PM BLACK HISTORY OF TAMPA IS THE HISTORY OF TAMPA.
3:53:36PM IT IS THE HISTORY FOR ALL OF US AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE
3:53:39PM PRESERVE THAT.
3:53:39PM I WANT TO CLARIFY, THOUGH, BECAUSE SOME MISINFORMATION WENT
3:53:42PM OUT.

3:53:42PM NOBODY ON CITY COUNCIL HAS -- NOBODY ON CITY COUNCIL EVER, I
3:53:46PM THINK, HAS EVER PROPOSED TEARING IT DOWN.
3:53:49PM ONLY ONE PERSON THAT PROPOSED TEARING IT DOWN AND THAT WAS
3:53:52PM TEN YEARS AGO AND HE WASN'T ON CITY COUNCIL.
3:53:55PM AND SO THE MOTION THAT I MADE AND I'LL TAKE CREDIT FOR IT,
3:53:59PM ALTHOUGH THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR SUPPORTING IT, WAS
3:54:01PM TO TRY TO MOVE THE NEGOTIATIONS ALONG AND TO MOVE THIS
3:54:06PM MOVEMENT ALONG.
3:54:07PM FOLKS ALMOST WEEKLY GO ONLINE AND TAKE A PICTURE OF THE
3:54:11PM JACKSON HOUSE AND POST WHY ISN'T THE CITY OR CITY COUNCIL
3:54:14PM DOING ANYTHING?
3:54:14PM THIS CITY COUNCIL SITTING AS CRA HAS JUST ABOUT QUARTERLY OR
3:54:20PM MONTHLY FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS ASKED FOR UPDATES ON THE
3:54:23PM JACKSON HOUSE AND THEN TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, WE MADE A
3:54:25PM MOTION TO PUT A MILLION DOLLARS IN FROM THE CRA.
3:54:28PM AND SO WE'VE BEEN FULLY BEHIND THE JACKSON HOUSE.
3:54:31PM THE ONLY INTENT OF THE MOTION AND THIS DISCUSSION IS TO SAVE
3:54:36PM THE JACKSON HOUSE BEFORE IT FALLS DOWN FOR THE PEOPLE WHO
3:54:39PM WANT TO SEE IT FALLEN DOWN, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM THAT
3:54:41PM SATISFACTION.
3:54:42PM LASTLY, WHEN I FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT, I WAS TALKING
3:54:46PM TO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, LIKE CHLOE CONEY WHOSE
3:54:50PM FAMILY HAD A BUILDING ON A CENTRAL AVENUE AND OTHERS, MY
3:54:54PM IDEA WAS LET'S RESTORE AND CREATE SEVERAL OF THEM.
3:54:57PM UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T HAVE THE LAND TO DO THAT BUT WE COULD

3:54:59PM AT LEAST SAVE THIS.
3:55:00PM ANYBODY BEEN TO WILLIAMSBURG, 90% OF THE BUILDINGS IN
3:55:03PM WILLIAMSBURG ARE RE-CREATIONS.
3:55:05PM SO IF IT FALLS DOWN, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY REBUILD EVEN IF WE
3:55:09PM JUST HAVE ONE PIECE OF WOOD FROM IT.
3:55:11PM ANYBODY EVER BEEN TO WARSAW IN POLAND, THEY HAVE A BEAUTIFUL
3:55:17PM OLD DOWN THAT LOOKS 500 YEARS OLD.
3:55:20PM IT WAS BUILT IN THE LAST 50 YEARS BECAUSE THE NAZIS
3:55:23PM DESTROYED IT, BUT IT LOOKS AND FEELS LIKE AN OLD CITY AND
3:55:26PM WAS BUILT FROM OLD PAINTINGS.
3:55:27PM MANHATTAN CASINO IN ST. PETE WAS A FAMOUS BUILDING.
3:55:31PM UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO SAVE IT BUT THEY REBUILT
3:55:34PM IT.
3:55:34PM MY COMMITMENT TO THE FOUNDATION AND THE PUBLIC IS I'M GOING
3:55:38PM TO CONTINUE TO DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE THIS
3:55:42PM BUILDING IS UP AND GOING AND I'VE OFFERED PUBLICLY TO
3:55:45PM PERSONALLY BUY THE PIANO TO GO IN THE LOBBY ONCE IT'S
3:55:49PM REBUILT.
3:55:50PM THANK YOU.
3:55:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:55:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR, TOO, BECAUSE I
3:55:55PM KEEP HEARING MISINFORMATION.
3:55:56PM I DON'T THINK THERE IS A SINGLE PERSON ON THIS CITY COUNCIL
3:55:58PM THAT DOES NOT SUPPORT THE JACKSON HOUSE IN SAVING IT IN THE
3:56:04PM CURRENT WOULD BE A, BUT IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER, MAKING SURE

3:56:07PM THAT THAT PIECE OF HISTORY IS PRESERVED.
3:56:10PM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:56:13PM I APPLAUD HIM BECAUSE I HEARD HIM THROUGH THE YEARS, BEING
3:56:16PM AN ADVOCATE FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE.
3:56:18PM SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BE UNDER ANY MISCONCEPTION OR
3:56:23PM MISUNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WILL DOES NOT EXIST UP HERE
3:56:26PM AMONGST THIS BOARD.
3:56:27PM I THINK, OBVIOUSLY, THE FOUNDATION IS COMMITTED TO
3:56:31PM FULFILLING A MISSION OF THE FAMILY, TO ENSURING THAT THIS
3:56:35PM HISTORY LIVES ON, THAT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT IN MY
3:56:38PM MIND UP TO THIS POINT, WE'VE HAD ONE OBSTACLE, I THINK YOU
3:56:41PM WERE VERY GENEROUS IN YOUR REMARKS, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, BUT
3:56:45PM WE'VE HAD ONE OBSTACLE, HOPEFULLY THAT OBSTACLE IS MOVING
3:56:52PM AND SEES THE WISDOM, AND WORKING WITH THE CITY AND COMING
3:56:56PM WITH A FAIR AND EQUITABLE SOLUTION SO THAT WE CAN ALL MOVE
3:56:59PM FORWARD AND DO THE RIGHT THING FOR HISTORY AND FOR THE CITY
3:57:04PM OF TAMPA.
3:57:04PM THANK YOU.
3:57:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
3:57:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
3:57:08PM NOW, I WANTED TO AGAIN THANK EVERYBODY WHO HAS BEEN WORKING
3:57:12PM ON THIS.
3:57:12PM ALIS, OBVIOUSLY, YOU'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK AND
3:57:16PM EVERYBODY, INCLUDING COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:57:18PM I REMEMBER BEING PEPPERED ON THE JACKSON HOUSE WHEN I SPOKE

3:57:22PM AS A CANDIDATE AT CAFE CON TAMPA.
3:57:25PM SO VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.
3:57:27PM THE LARGER ISSUE, WE CAN GET ON THE JACKSON HOUSE
3:57:30PM INDIVIDUALLY, THAT IS THE IDEA OF TAMPA BLACK HISTORY AND
3:57:34PM HOW IT'S ALWAYS IGNORED AND VERY, VERY MUCH.
3:57:37PM NAMES LIKE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA LIKE ROBERT SAUNDERS, MART
3:57:41PM MACEO, FRANCISCO RODRIGUEZ, PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL WITH US, SO
3:57:47PM MANY OTHER FOLKS ARE PART AND PARCEL OF THE HEART AND SOUL
3:57:50PM OF TAMPA AND SHOULD BE COMMON NAMES FOR EVERYBODY WHO KNOWS
3:57:54PM ANYTHING ABOUT TAMPA.
3:57:54PM SAME THING WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
3:57:56PM HARRY T. AND HARRIET MOORE.
3:57:58PM WILLIE HOWARD, SO MANY DIFFERENT AMAZING NAMES HERE IN
3:58:01PM FLORIDA AND WHATNOT.
3:58:02PM TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUE OF EMINENT DOMAIN, I'M NOT AN
3:58:06PM EMINENT DOMAIN ATTORNEY, SO I'M NOT SPEAKING FROM EXPERIENCE
3:58:09PM OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
3:58:10PM I KNOW VERY LITTLE, IN FACT, AND I DON'T WISH TO KNOW MUCH
3:58:13PM ABOUT AS AN ATTORNEY, BUT IT WOULD APPEAR TO BE A VERY
3:58:16PM RISK-LADEN PROCESS, VERY COSTLY WITH PARTICULARLY FROM WHAT
3:58:22PM I HEAR, PUNITIVE SANCTIONS IF WE'RE NOT ON THE WINNING SIDE.
3:58:26PM THE BIGGEST ISSUE IS, AND I SOUND LIKE MY MEDIATOR ROLE
3:58:29PM HERE, WE CAN HAVE REASONABLE PEACE, RIGHT, OR THE REAL
3:58:33PM PROSPECT OF PEACE WITHOUT THE THREAT OF LITIGATION, WITHOUT
3:58:36PM THE PUNITIVE NATURE OF LITIGATION, WHICH WILL COME IN LIKE A

3:58:39PM WRECKING BALL AND HARM THE DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS THAT WE NEED
3:58:42PM WITH YOU WILL A THE PARTIES TO DO WHAT ALL OF US WANT TO DO
3:58:45PM WHICH IS TO SAVE THE JACKSON HOUSE.
3:58:47PM I CERTAINLY THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
3:58:48PM I ALSO GIVE A LOT OF DEFERENCE TO THE BOARD OF THE JACKSON
3:58:51PM HOUSE.
3:58:52PM SOME OF THE FOLKS HERE, ET CETERA, I'M THE KIND OF PERSON
3:58:55PM THAT BELIEVES IN A PERSON LIKE MYSELF WHEN I'M IN A
3:58:58PM SITUATION LIKE THIS I LISTEN.
3:58:59PM MOST IMPORTANT THING IS I LISTEN.
3:59:01PM AND SO I GIVE A LOT OF DEFERENCE TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE ON THE
3:59:05PM BOARD OF THE JACKSON HOUSE, THOSE WHO ARE PERSONAL
3:59:08PM STAKEHOLDERS IN THAT REGARD.
3:59:09PM I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR US AS A BODY.
3:59:11PM BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A GOOD AGREEMENT GOING, LIKE
3:59:16PM SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING THAT'S GOOD, AND
3:59:19PM SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL ARE, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, YOU'RE DATING
3:59:22PM AND MAYBE YOU'LL GET ENGAGED AND PUT A RING ON IT BEFORE YOU
3:59:25PM KNOW IT.
3:59:25PM THANK YOU.
3:59:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A LOT OF RELATIONSHIP TALK TODAY.
3:59:28PM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
3:59:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MAYBE THIS MAY SOUND A LITTLE SPIRITUAL,
3:59:35PM BUT THE JACKSON HOUSE IS STILL STANDING FOR A REASON.
3:59:39PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, IT IS IN DISARRAY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT

3:59:45PM GOD WILL NOT LET IT FALL.
3:59:47PM SO WE HAVE GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE COME TO A
3:59:50PM RESOLUTION.
3:59:52PM WE'RE CLOSE.
3:59:53PM I WANT TO THANK THE FOUNDATION FOR THEIR PASSION AND
3:59:57PM STICKING WITH IT.
3:59:58PM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE IN HELPING
4:00:01PM THEM COME TO A COMPROMISE IN THIS MATTER.
4:00:04PM I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR HIS PASSION.
4:00:09PM EMINENT DOMAIN IS NOT THE WAY.
4:00:11PM HISTORICALLY IT'S JUST NOT THE WAY.
4:00:12PM IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA IN TERMS OF THE HISTORICAL ASPECT OF
4:00:17PM TAKING A PROPERTY THAT BELONGED TO BLACK FOLKS, AS WE WOULD
4:00:21PM SAY.
4:00:22PM THAT HAS HAPPENED TOO MUCH IN OUR HISTORY, ALTHOUGH I DO
4:00:24PM BELIEVE THE INTENTIONS WERE GOOD, BUT NOT WITH THIS MATTER.
4:00:29PM SO HOPEFULLY WHEN YOU COME BACK TO US IN TWO WEEKS, WE'LL BE
4:00:33PM MOVING ALONG BECAUSE REALLY WHAT WE ALL KNOW THAT NEEDS TO
4:00:37PM HAPPEN IS THAT THE WORK NEEDS TO BEGIN.
4:00:41PM I BELIEVE GOD HAS GIVEN US A REPRIEVE TO GET TO THIS POINT.
4:00:45PM I DO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE SO FAR.
4:00:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
4:00:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
4:00:49PM I JUST WANTED TO ECHO BASICALLY WHAT EVERYONE ELSE SAYS AND
4:00:55PM TO GIVE MY THANKS TO MR. DRUMGO AND MR. MASSEY FOR

4:00:59PM CONTINUING TO WORK ON THIS.
4:01:01PM AND I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE JACKSON HOUSE NOT
4:01:07PM REBUILD, BUT JUST BEING BROUGHT BACK TO ITS FORMER GLORY.
4:01:13PM THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS HAD A MAJOR PART IN IT.
4:01:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
4:01:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE CLARIFICATION AND MOTION.
4:01:20PM THE MOTION WAS NEVER TO FILE EMINENT DOMAIN AGAINST THE
4:01:25PM JACKSON HOUSE.
4:01:26PM IT WAS TO FILE EMINENT DOMAIN AGAINST THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
4:01:30PM AND I DON'T KNOW THE ETHNICITY OF THE OWNERS.
4:01:38PM I DON'T THINK THEY ARE BLACK.
4:01:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APPRECIATE THAT.
4:01:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK --
4:01:45PM WHEN DID YOU SAY?
4:01:46PM >> SEPTEMBER 21st IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
4:01:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: I TALKED TO, HAD THE PLEASURE TALKING TO
4:01:53PM DR. COLLINS AND HER BOARD MEMBERS AFTER THE MEETING.
4:01:59PM I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE A TIME FOR HER TO COME
4:02:05PM BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE PLANS FOR RENOVATION.
4:02:07PM IF THE CONTRACT COMES BACK IN SEPTEMBER, HOPEFULLY IT WOULD
4:02:12PM BE EXECUTED IN OCTOBER.
4:02:13PM HOW ABOUT NOVEMBER 2nd?
4:02:15PM IS THAT TOO EARLY TO ASK THEM TO COME GIVE AN UPDATE?
4:02:18PM NOVEMBER 2, IS THAT OKAY?
4:02:31PM >> [INAUDIBLE]

4:02:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: DR. COLLINS, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO PUT ON
4:02:34PM HERE TO INVITE THE HISTORY CENTER AND USF ALSO OR DO IT BY
4:02:39PM YOURSELF?
4:02:41PM >> WE MEET EVERY OTHER MONDAY.
4:02:42PM I'LL LET THEM KNOW WE'LL BE COMING.
4:02:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE AN UPDATE FROM THE
4:02:47PM JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION, USF, AND TAMPA BAY HISTORY CENTER
4:02:50PM ON NOVEMBER 2nd.
4:02:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
4:02:53PM CARLSON.
4:02:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
4:02:55PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:02:56PM AYE.
4:02:58PM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR BEING
4:03:02PM SUPPORTIVE BECAUSE EVERYBODY UP HERE SUPPORTS THIS.
4:03:04PM THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF.
4:03:06PM THANK YOU TO DR. COLLINS AND YOUR BOARD.
4:03:08PM WE HAVE YOUR BACK.
4:03:10PM AGAIN, YOU'VE HEARD THE PASSIONATE VOICES UP HERE.
4:03:13PM WE'VE HEARD THE PASSIONATE VOICES IN THE AUDIENCE.
4:03:15PM I LOOK FORWARD TO A RIBBON CUTTING OF THE RESURRECTED
4:03:19PM JACKSON HOUSE COMING SOON.
4:03:22PM I'M REALLY EXCITED AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS.
4:03:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: I ALSO WANTED TO THANK THE MOST IGNORED GROUP
4:03:30PM IN AMERICA, LAWYERS.

4:03:31PM I'M JOKING, BUT THE LAWYERS WHO DID THIS.
4:03:34PM MR. MASSEY AND OTHERS.
4:03:35PM REALLY, REALLY, AND EVERYBODY, REBECCA, EVERYBODY.
4:03:38PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:03:38PM BECAUSE THE UNSUNG HEROES IN AMERICA, LAWYERS, NO, I'M
4:03:43PM JOKING, BUT, AGAIN, OBVIOUSLY TO THE ATTORNEYS, A LOT OF
4:03:48PM WORK AND WHATNOT.
4:03:49PM SO THANK YOU.
4:03:57PM >>ALIS DRUMGO: THANK YOU.
4:03:57PM WE ARE NOT 100% DONE.
4:03:59PM I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT.
4:04:01PM WE LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK TO YOU.
4:04:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
4:04:04PM >>ALIS DRUMGO: THANK YOU ALL.
4:04:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP, MICHELLE VAN LOAN.
4:04:10PM I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A PowerPoint ON STREET RENAMING.
4:04:17PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, CITY COUNCIL
4:04:19PM MEMBERS.
4:04:20PM FOR ITEM 119, I QUICKLY WOULD LIKE TO GO OVER THE THREE
4:04:25PM REQUESTS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
4:04:26PM FIRST WE HAVE DR. WALTER SMITH.
4:04:28PM AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, HE WAS THE 7th PRESIDENT OF FLORIDA A
4:04:34PM AND M UNIVERSITY.
4:04:35PM UNDER HIS TENURE, HE WAS ABLE TO DEFEAT.
4:04:39PM THERE WAS AN EFFORT TO MERGE FMU WITH UF, AND HE WAS ABLE TO

4:04:43PM DEFEAT THAT AND KEEP IT AS A STAND-ALONE HISTORICALLY BLACK
4:04:47PM COLLEGE.
4:04:47PM HE ACQUIRED AT THAT TIME $10 MILLION, WHICH WAS A VERY
4:04:51PM IMPRESSIVE ENDOWMENT.
4:04:52PM DOESN'T SEEM LIKE MUCH TODAY, TO HELP WITH HIS EFFORTS FOR
4:04:55PM THE ATHLETIC PROGRAMS AND EXPANDING INTO NEW DEGREE
4:04:59PM PROGRAMS.
4:05:00PM UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP, THEY EXPANDED THE BLACK ARCHIVES AND
4:05:03PM BUILT NEW IMPROVED FACILITIES, INCLUDING BRAGG MEMORIAL
4:05:05PM STADIUM.
4:05:06PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, HE SERVED AS A FULBRIGHT SCHOLAR AT THE
4:05:10PM UNIVERSITY OF MALAWI.
4:05:12PM HE ALSO AGAIN CREATED NEW HIGHER EDUCATION PROGRAMS FOR THE
4:05:15PM INSTRUCTORS THERE.
4:05:15PM HE ALSO ESTABLISHED THE -- I WANT TO GET THIS CORRECT --
4:05:19PM FUNDA COMMUNITY COLLEGE IN SOWETO, SOUTH AFRICA.
4:05:25PM HE ALSO WROTE THE MAGNIFICENT 12 ABOUT FLORIDA'S 12 BLACK
4:05:25PM JUNIOR COLLEGES.
4:05:29PM THEY DID ESTABLISH THE DR. WALTER SMITH LIBRARY IN DREW
4:05:33PM PARK.
4:05:35PM IT IS DREW PARK, YES?
4:05:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, IN WEST TAMPA.
4:05:38PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I'M SORRY.
4:05:39PM WEST TAMPA.
4:05:39PM IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY.

4:05:41PM AND IT HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO ENHANCING THE EDUCATIONAL
4:05:46PM DEVELOPMENT OF HIS BOYHOOD COMMUNITY.
4:05:49PM AS YOU CAN SEE, THE LIBRARY IS RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER.
4:05:51PM WE HAVE A SIGN RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET WHICH IS RIGHT AT
4:05:54PM CYPRESS AND NORTH ALBANY.
4:05:56PM AS YOU APPROACH, YOU'LL SEE THAT GOING TOWARDS THE LIBRARY
4:05:59PM THERE.
4:06:00PM IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON DR. SMITH OR SAVE THEM TO
4:06:07PM THE END.
4:06:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MANY OF US KNOW HIS SON, WALTER JUNIOR.
4:06:10PM DR. SMITH, INCREDIBLE CAREER, HIGHLY RESPECTED AND HIS
4:06:17PM CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE STATE, TO THE CITY, TO THE EDUCATION
4:06:20PM SYSTEM, I DON'T EVEN HAVE TO EXPRESS IT.
4:06:23PM BUT VERY WELL DESERVED.
4:06:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GO AHEAD.
4:06:28PM BECAUSE I'LL GO LAST SINCE I'M A RATTLER.
4:06:31PM OKAY.
4:06:33PM WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SO BEFITTING BECAUSE
4:06:36PM WE HAVE OUR PAST NATIONAL PRESIDENT, DR. CAROLYN COLLINS, IN
4:06:39PM THE ROOM.
4:06:40PM AND ACTUALLY I'M VERY EXCITED TO ACTUALLY SAY THIS, THAT HE
4:06:43PM WAS MY PRESIDENT AS A FRESHMAN AT FLORIDA A AND M
4:06:48PM UNIVERSITY.
4:06:48PM HIS HISTORY IS PROFOUND.
4:06:50PM EVERYTHING DID READ, VERY SIGNIFICANT WHAT HE'S DONE.

4:06:54PM I'M SO HAPPY TO SEE THIS.
4:06:55PM I HAVE A VERY NICE SURPRISE MOTION UNDER NEW BUSINESS THAT
4:07:00PM WILL EVEN SUPPORT THIS EFFORT.
4:07:02PM VERY GLAD TO SEE.
4:07:03PM WELL DESERVED.
4:07:04PM HE IS A HOME BOY, TAMPA NATIVE, AND, OF COURSE, THE ONLY
4:07:10PM FLORIDA A AND M UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT FROM TAMPA, WEST TAMPA,
4:07:14PM ON THE WEST SIDE.
4:07:16PM JUST SO THANKFUL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO CELEBRATE HIM IN
4:07:19PM THIS WAY.
4:07:21PM I KNOW THAT HIS FAMILY IS VERY PROUD.
4:07:24PM HE ALSO HAS A DAUGHTER, BY THE WAY, WHO IS A LAWYER.
4:07:26PM AND AN ENVIRONMENTALIST AND A SON.
4:07:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: DR. SMITH, WHO PASSED ON A LITTLE OVER A YEAR
4:07:34PM AGO, I BELIEVE THANKSGIVING OF --
4:07:40PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: IT WAS THE END.
4:07:42PM IN JANUARY WE HAD MET THE ONE-YEAR REQUIREMENT.
4:07:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
4:07:46PM STRIKE THAT.
4:07:47PM DR. SMITH WAS OBVIOUSLY A TREMENDOUS INDIVIDUAL, A WONDERFUL
4:07:51PM ACADEMIC, A CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER AND KOREAN WAR VETERAN AS
4:07:55PM WELL WHO SERVED OUR COUNTRY IN UNIFORM DURING JIM CROW AT A
4:08:00PM TIME WHEN HIS COUNTRY WOULDN'T STAND UP FOR HIM, HE AND HIS
4:08:04PM BROTHER AND OTHERS STOOD UP FOR OUR COUNTRY.
4:08:07PM A REALLY TREMENDOUS GUY.

4:08:08PM AND WALTER, WE GOT TO MAKE SURE TO GET WALTER HERE WHEN THIS
4:08:13PM COMES UP AND WHATNOT BECAUSE I KNOW WALTER WILL BE TICKLED
4:08:16PM PINK.
4:08:17PM HE KNOWS ABOUT THIS OBVIOUSLY.
4:08:18PM THANK YOU.
4:08:19PM DR. SMITH, IT'S ABOUT HONORING ALL OF OUR HEROES AND HE'S
4:08:23PM CERTAINLY ONE OF THEM.
4:08:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
4:08:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE BIO SAID THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT HE HAD
4:08:32PM ENORMOUS IMPACT ON THE UNIVERSITY SYSTEMS IN SEVERAL
4:08:36PM COUNTRIES IN AFRICA.
4:08:37PM HE AND WALTER JUNIOR WERE PERSONAL FRIENDS WITH NELSON
4:08:41PM MANDELA, AND THEY WORKED CLOSELY TOGETHER.
4:08:44PM WALTER JUNIOR HAD A PICTURE ON CHRISTMAS DAY WHERE HE WAS
4:08:48PM SITTING HAVING BREAKFAST WITH NELSON MANDELA.
4:08:52PM THESE ARE -- FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY, HE WAS A VERY
4:08:57PM HUMBLE GUY AND HIS IMPACT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT IN FLORIDA AND
4:09:01PM IN SEVERAL COUNTRIES.
4:09:02PM THANK YOU.
4:09:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
4:09:03PM NEXT UP YOU HAVE CLIFFORD MacDONALD.
4:09:08PM J. CLIFFORD MacDONALD.
4:09:14PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: WE'LL DO THAT LAST BECAUSE WE HAVE A
4:09:17PM GUEST.
4:09:18PM WE'LL SKIP TO PHIL ALESSI SENIOR.

4:09:21PM WE KNOW ABOUT THE ALESSI BAKERY.
4:09:24PM NATIONALLY, THEY SUPPLY BREAD AND BAKED GOODS TO NATIONAL
4:09:27PM CHAINS AND GROCERY STORES.
4:09:28PM BUT FOR MANY TAMPANIANS, HE'S KNOWN FOR HIS BOXING HISTORY.
4:09:32PM AGAIN, THE HOBNOBBING AND BEING FRIENDS WITH NOT ONLY
4:09:36PM MUHAMMAD ALI AND FERDIE PACHECO, BUT INDUCTED IN THE BOXING
4:09:48PM HALL OF HIM A IN 2010.
4:09:49PM INCREDIBLY REVERED FOR THE TYPE OF MAN HE WAS, FOR HIS
4:09:53PM INTEGRITY AND HONESTY IN BUSINESS AND WHAT HE GAVE IN THE
4:09:58PM BOXING BUSINESS AND PROMOTING IT ALSO WITH OUR YOUTH AT THAT
4:10:01PM TIME, ESPECIALLY WITH AT-RISK KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY.
4:10:04PM SO WE ARE HAPPY TO RECOMMEND THE HONORING OF PHIL ALESSI
4:10:09PM SENIOR.
4:10:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS FORTUNATE TO GIVE HIM A
4:10:11PM COMMENDATION RIGHT BEFORE HE PASSED AWAY RIGHT THERE IN HIS
4:10:14PM OFFICE AT THAT BAKERY.
4:10:18PM I STOPPED THERE OFTEN.
4:10:19PM YOU CAN'T GO WRONG WITH ANY ALESSI BAKERY TREATS.
4:10:22PM I KNOW THAT MY MOTHER, WHEN SHE WAS A LITTLE GIRL, SHE WOULD
4:10:25PM GO TO THE HOWARD AVENUE LOCATION NEXT TO THE POST OFFICE
4:10:27PM THAT STILL SAYS ALESSI AROUND THE BUILDING.
4:10:30PM BUT HIS CONNECTION, AS YOU MENTIONED, TO BOXING AND OF THOSE
4:10:35PM PEOPLE, I ONLY MET ANGELO DUNDEE.
4:10:39PM I WAS IN THE ROOM WITH FERDIE PACHECO ONCE AND MUHAMMAD ALI
4:10:43PM IS MUHAMMAD ALI.

4:10:44PM TO HAVE THAT IN WEST TAMPA, THAT SIX DEGREES OF SEPARATION.
4:10:47PM HE WAS RIGHT THERE.
4:10:48PM BUT ANOTHER VERY WELL-DESERVED ALESSI BAKERY IS AN
4:10:54PM INSTITUTION OVER A CENTURY.
4:10:56PM THIS IS REALLY SPECIAL AS WELL.
4:10:57PM THANK YOU.
4:11:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AS A WEST TAMPA GIRL, I'M REALLY EXCITED
4:11:02PM TO SEE THIS.
4:11:03PM THIS IS WHERE I DISCOVERED FROZEN -- NOT FROZEN, BUT COLD
4:11:07PM PIZZA CALLED SCACHATTA.
4:11:13PM WE USED TO EAT THAT ALL THE TIME AT JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL
4:11:16PM WHERE HIS SON IS ALSO A DRAGON, JOHN ALESSI.
4:11:19PM I LOVE GOING IN THERE AND SEEING HIS SON STILL RUNNING THE
4:11:23PM PLACE FOR HIM AND THIS IS JUST A GREAT ADDITION IN TERMS OF
4:11:26PM STREET NAMING.
4:11:29PM THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT DAY FROM THE TOP OF THE MORNING.
4:11:32PM GLAD WE'RE DOING THIS.
4:11:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:11:34PM NEXT UP YOU SAID YOU HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST IN THE AUDIENCE.
4:11:36PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: YES, IF WE CAN HAVE THE PowerPoint
4:11:40PM BACK ONE SECOND.
4:11:41PM I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE SIGN WILL BE RIGHT THERE AT
4:11:44PM PADDOCK AND CYPRESS RIGHT IN FRONT.
4:11:48PM BECAUSE OF THE PARKING LOT AND BEING ASPHALTED WE COULDN'T
4:11:50PM DO IT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE STORE, SO THIS IS THE CLOSEST

4:11:54PM SIGN KITTY CORNER FROM THE STORE.
4:11:56PM LASTLY, WE DO HAVE --
4:11:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT A MINUTE, THAT LAST PICTURE OF
4:12:00PM ALESSI.
4:12:01PM I THINK THAT IS MY CAR READY TO PULL INTO ALESSI.
4:12:04PM I DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU TOOK THE PICTURES BUT I'M THERE PRETTY
4:12:08PM OFTEN.
4:12:09PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THAT MAY BE AND YOU DIDN'T SHARE WHEN
4:12:11PM YOU CAME OUT.
4:12:12PM WE WERE STANDING ON THE CORNER TAKING PICTURES.
4:12:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M EATING THEM IN THE CAR.
4:12:19PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: LASTLY, J. CLIFFORD MacDONALD.
4:12:23PM AGAIN, AN AMAZING INDIVIDUAL IN OUR TAMPA AREA.
4:12:27PM HE BEGAN ADVOCATING FOR CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES ALL THE
4:12:30PM WAY BACK IN 1942.
4:12:32PM HE STARTED ENLISTING THE COMMUNITY AND MAKING THIS A
4:12:34PM COMMUNITY FOCUSED EFFORT.
4:12:36PM TAKES A COMMUNITY TO HELP OUR CHILDREN AND TO HELP THEM BE
4:12:39PM PRODUCTIVE AND INTEGRATED MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
4:12:42PM HE ESTABLISHED THE FIRST -- THIS IS WHY I GOT DREW PARK
4:12:46PM MISTAKE EARLIER.
4:12:47PM HE ESTABLISHED THE FIRST PRESCHOOL FOR CHILDREN WITH
4:12:50PM DISABILITIES IN THE ENTIRE NATION IN DREW PARK.
4:12:54PM HE FOUNDED THE HILLSBOROUGH ASSOCIATION FOR RETARDED
4:12:56PM CHILDREN IN 1953.

4:12:58PM SO A TRUE ADVOCATE AHEAD OF HIS TIME.
4:13:00PM AND THEN AS WE ALL KNOW NOW AND THE CITY SUPPORTS, WE HAVE
4:13:03PM THE MacDONALD TRAINING CENTER.
4:13:05PM IT WAS THE FIRST TO PROVIDE SERVICES AND TRAINING TO OLDER
4:13:08PM CHILDREN.
4:13:08PM A LOT OF TIMES THEY GET LEFT BEHIND ONCE THEY ASSUME THEY
4:13:11PM CAN GET TO A CERTAIN LEVEL.
4:13:12PM HE ADVOCATED FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF EDUCATIONAL, VOCATIONAL,
4:13:15PM AND RESIDENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES SO THEY COULD BE FULLY
4:13:18PM FUNCTIONING AND INDIVIDUALS OUT IN SOCIETY AND BE SEEN AS
4:13:23PM INDIVIDUALS.
4:13:23PM HE FOUNDED THE ASSOCIATIONS FOR CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES
4:13:28PM BOTH AT THE STATE AND THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
4:13:30PM LASTLY, HE WAS AWARDED THE MEDAL OF FREEDOM BY PRESIDENT
4:13:34PM JOHN F. KENNEDY IN 1963 FOR ALL OF HIS EFFORTS IN THIS AREA.
4:13:39PM AND THE SIGN IS RIGHT THERE, AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE LIGHT
4:13:43PM POLES, WE WANTED THE SIGN TO BE SEEN AND IT'S RIGHT ACROSS
4:13:46PM THE STREET.
4:13:47PM YOU CAN SEE THERE FROM THE MacDONALD TRAINING CENTER.
4:13:50PM WE DO HAVE PHYLLIS GUTHMAN.
4:13:54PM SHE IS THE DIRECTOR OF ADVANCEMENT FOR THE MacDONALD
4:13:57PM TRAINING CENTER, AND SHE WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF
4:13:59PM STATEMENTS ABOUT MR. MacDONALD.
4:14:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:14:01PM GO AHEAD.

4:14:02PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
4:14:07PM MacDONALD TRAINING CENTER IS CELEBRATING 70 YEARS OF
4:14:10PM UNITING HOPE WITH OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE IN 1953, TAMPA UNITED
4:14:17PM BEHIND A LOVING FATHER WHO BELIEVED THAT HIS SON WAS MUCH
4:14:20PM MORE THAN A DIAGNOSIS.
4:14:22PM HE DREAMED BIG.
4:14:23PM HE BUCKED THE STATUS QUO AND J. CLIFFORD MacDONALD
4:14:28PM FIERCELY ADVOCATED FOR HIS SON AND OTHER CHILDREN AND ADULTS
4:14:31PM WITH DISABILITIES.
4:14:31PM COMMUNITY GROUPS, LOCAL BUSINESSES, AND CARING INDIVIDUALS
4:14:37PM ALL OVER TAMPA BAY HELD CARNIVALS AND BAKE SALES AND
4:14:41PM SPAGHETTI DINNER FUND-RAISERS.
4:14:45PM THAT'S PROBABLY BEFORE MY TIME BUT MAYBE WE STILL DO THAT
4:14:48PM TODAY, TO BUILD CLASSROOMS AND PLAYGROUNDS AND TOGETHER THEY
4:14:52PM CHANGED LIVES.
4:14:53PM OVER THE DECADES, MTC, MacDONALD TRAINING CENTER, HAS
4:14:57PM FOLLOWED HIS EXAMPLE WITH DETERMINATION, WISDOM, AND A
4:15:01PM WILLINGNESS TO CHALLENGE AND CHANGE THE SYSTEM, GIVING HOPE
4:15:04PM TO INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR FAMILIES THAT MAY FEEL HOPELESS.
4:15:08PM MTC ADVOCATES FOR EQUITABLE ACCESS, OPPORTUNITIES AND
4:15:13PM INCLUSION FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND ARE INNOVATIVE,
4:15:19PM TRANSFORMATIONAL AND ELEVATED SERVICES ARE CONSTANTLY
4:15:23PM MEETING THE EVOLVING NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY WE REPRESENT AND
4:15:26PM THAT WE SERVE.
4:15:26PM SO WE ARE VERY EXCITED.

4:15:29PM THIS IS GOING TO BE -- COULDN'T BE MORE PERFECT TIMING THAN
4:15:32PM DURING OUR 70th ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION ON OCTOBER 12, IT
4:15:36PM WILL BE J. CLIFFORD MacDONALD 122nd BIRTHDAY.
4:15:40PM HE DID PASS AWAY IN 1963, BUT WE ARE VERY EXCITED AND VERY
4:15:46PM APPRECIATIVE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY.
4:15:49PM THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.
4:15:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:15:53PM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
4:15:54PM WE KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THE MacDONALD TRAINING CENTER IS AND
4:15:57PM HOW IMPACTFUL IT IS TO THE COMMUNITY AND SO MANY FAMILIES.
4:16:00PM I TOURED IT NOT TOO LONG AGO.
4:16:02PM WHAT YOU DO -- YOU SEE THE PHOTO ON THE WALL OF PEOPLE,
4:16:07PM PEOPLE THAT I RECOGNIZE, PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE I
4:16:09PM SEE IN THE COMMUNITY OR SIBLINGS, BUT THE IMPACT THAT YOU
4:16:12PM HAVE IS IMMEASURABLE.
4:16:16PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
4:16:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: PHYLLIS, OBVIOUSLY LOVE YOU TO DEATH.
4:16:23PM YOU ARE JUST A WONDERFUL PERSON.
4:16:25PM MICHELLE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.
4:16:27PM IT'S SO IMPORTANT THAT McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER WAS
4:16:30PM FOUNDED 70 YEARS AGO, IMAGINE THE YEAR IT WAS, THAT'S 12
4:16:33PM YEARS BEFORE MEDICARE.
4:16:35PM 18 YEARS AFTER SOCIAL SECURITY WHEN SOMEBODY WITH AN
4:16:38PM INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY WHO WAS BORN, THEIR PARENTS WERE
4:16:43PM TOLD FORGET YOU EVER HAD HIM, PUT HIM IN A HOME BECAUSE THEY

4:16:48PM ARE A DISGRACE.
4:16:49PM OUT OF THAT, MR. MacDONALD FOUNDED THIS WONDERFUL
4:16:51PM ORGANIZATION, AND IT'S SUCH A TRAILBLAZER BEFORE HIS TIME.
4:16:58PM AND YOU THINK ABOUT TODAY AND YOU GO, WHAT PEOPLE ARE WE
4:17:02PM TELLING OTHER FOLKS TODAY TO PUT AWAY AND THAT WE DON'T WANT
4:17:05PM TO HEAR FROM?
4:17:06PM WHO ARE THE CLIFFORD MacDONALDS OF TODAY?
4:17:09PM SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT WITHOUT A DOUBT.
4:17:11PM IT'S IMPORTANT THAT HE WAS HONORED BY PRESIDENT KENNEDY,
4:17:14PM GIVEN BY LBJ A YEAR LATER BECAUSE OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S
4:17:18PM MURDER.
4:17:19PM PRESIDENT KENNEDY WHO WAS, HIS SISTER ROSEMARIE BEGAN THE
4:17:23PM PRESIDENT'S COUNCIL FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL
4:17:25PM DISABILITIES AND AGAIN, MacDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER, THE
4:17:28PM VIERA FAMILY LOVES MacDONALD TRAINING CENTER BECAUSE MY
4:17:31PM BROTHER IS A CLIENT.
4:17:33PM YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW JUAN WORKS AT JAMES RANCH AND MacDONALD
4:17:37PM TRAINING CENTER IS A GODSEND FOR US.
4:17:41PM IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION.
4:17:43PM ONE OF MANY HERE IN TAMPA, PARTS OF NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS,
4:17:47PM LIKE BEST BUDDIES FOR SPECIAL OLYMPICS OR SO MANY DIFFERENT
4:17:51PM LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, USF AND MANY OTHERS WHO DO SO MUCH.
4:17:58PM ONE AFTER MY OWN HEART, 110%.
4:18:04PM ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU, PHYLLIS.
4:18:05PM THANK YOU.

4:18:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.
4:18:08PM I HAVE A FAMILY CONNECTION AS WELL.
4:18:09PM MY BROTHER-IN-LAW WAS A CLIENT AND MacDONALD TRAINING
4:18:15PM CENTER FOR YEARS.
4:18:17PM I CAN TELL YOU WHAT AN INCREDIBLE AND VALUABLE ASSET YOU
4:18:21PM WERE FOR HIM AND OUR FAMILY THAT HE PROVIDED PURPOSE, SKILL,
4:18:25PM CAMARADERIE, FRIENDSHIP, AND THAT SENSE OF ONE BELONGING AND
4:18:30PM ALSO CONTRIBUTING.
4:18:32PM AND IT WAS AMAZING TO WATCH AND TO WITNESS AND TO SEE THE
4:18:36PM IMPACT THAT IT HAS ON HIS LIFE.
4:18:39PM HE SUBSEQUENTLY PASSED AWAY.
4:18:41PM HE'S FOREVER IN OUR FAMILY'S HEART, OF COURSE.
4:18:45PM AGAIN, I APPRECIATE WHAT THE CENTER HAS DONE FOR MY FAMILY
4:18:48PM AND FOR SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE'S FAMILIES.
4:18:51PM THANK YOU.
4:18:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND THEY ARE DOWN THE STREET FROM
4:18:53PM JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
4:18:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. MacDONALD REALLY IS THE ORIGINAL
4:18:59PM BEST BUDDIES.
4:19:01PM THAT'S THE ONLY WAY I CAN SAY IT.
4:19:03PM WHAT THIS PROGRAM TRAINING CENTER DOES IS AMAZING.
4:19:05PM JEFFERSON HAS HAD AN ASSOCIATION WITH IT FOR A LONG TIME.
4:19:08PM I'M SO THANKFUL THAT YOU ALL ARE BEING RECOGNIZED IN HONOR
4:19:13PM OF THE 70th YEAR.
4:19:16PM CONGRATULATIONS.

4:19:17PM KUDOS TO YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO TO KEEP IT GOING.
4:19:20PM I KNOW HE WOULD BE SO PROUD.
4:19:22PM I HAD NO IDEA HE PASSED AWAY IN 1963.
4:19:24PM THAT IS EVEN AN HONOR ITSELF KNOWING HOW LONG IT HAS
4:19:28PM CONTINUED SINCE HIS DEATH.
4:19:29PM THIS IS REALLY A TAMPA JEWEL THAT WE SHOULD BE EXTREMELY
4:19:33PM PROUD OF, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US.
4:19:34PM KUDOS TO EVERYONE THAT YOU ALL SERVE AND THE VOLUNTEERS AND
4:19:38PM EVEN THE MONEY THAT COMES IN, EVERYTHING.
4:19:41PM BLESSED ABUNDANTLY.
4:19:44PM THANK YOU.
4:19:45PM >> THANK YOU.
4:19:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
4:19:46PM DO YOU NEED ANYTHING FROM US?
4:19:48PM OR GO AHEAD TO FIRST READING?
4:19:51PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: I DO NEED YOU TO OFFICIALLY SET THE
4:19:53PM FIRST READING.
4:19:54PM ASKING FOR FIRST READING FOR OCTOBER 19.
4:19:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR ALL THREE?
4:19:59PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: FOR ALL THREE.
4:20:00PM YOUR PLEASURE, YES.
4:20:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OCTOBER 19 YOU SAID.
4:20:04PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WITH THE MOTION, SECOND FROM COUNCIL
4:20:05PM MEMBER HENDERSON.
4:20:06PM ALL IN FAVOR?

4:20:07PM AYE.
4:20:08PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: THEN FOR THE LISTENING PUBLIC, WE DO
4:20:11PM HAVE ON THE CITY OF TAMPA'S REAL ESTATE WEBSITE IF ANYONE
4:20:14PM DOES WANT TO ADD PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL KEEP THAT.
4:20:16PM IT'S BEEN UP SINCE SEPTEMBER 30 AND WE WILL KEEP THAT UP
4:20:20PM UNTIL SEPTEMBER 20.
4:20:21PM IF WE DO RECEIVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'LL BRING IT TO YOU
4:20:24PM IN OCTOBER.
4:20:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:20:26PM NEXT UP WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 121 FROM OUR CITY CLERK, SHIRLEY
4:20:31PM FOXX-KNOWLES TRANSMITTING THE TENTATIVE 2023-2024 CALENDAR.
4:20:35PM THIS MOTION WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
4:20:38PM DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
4:20:39PM THERE IS AN ASK FOR TRANSMITTAL.
4:20:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR DOING IT.
4:20:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO MOVE IT?
4:20:45PM MOVE TO TRANSMIT.
4:20:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR.
4:20:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:20:51PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:20:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:20:53PM AYE.
4:20:54PM DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, SULING?
4:20:57PM THERE WAS A QUESTION OF HOW VACATIONS COINCIDED WITH
4:21:07PM SCHOOLS.

4:21:08PM TIME FOR NEW BUSINESS.
4:21:09PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING, SIR?
4:21:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, I HAVE A FEW, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
4:21:13PM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO THE
4:21:16PM MAYOR'S HISPANIC HERITAGE COMMITTEE FOR THE DEDICATION AND
4:21:19PM TIRELESS EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY.
4:21:22PM AS YOU HEARD THIS MORNING, THIS YEAR WOULD BE THE 35th
4:21:25PM ANNUAL HISPANIC HERITAGE CELEBRATION.
4:21:27PM COMMENDATION PRESENTED BY ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ON WEDNESDAY,
4:21:31PM SEPTEMBER 27, AT THE BEAUTIFUL TAMPA THEATRE.
4:21:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:21:37PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:21:40PM STEALTH SECOND.
4:21:41PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:21:41PM AYE.
4:21:42PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:21:43PM YES, SIR.
4:21:43PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT
4:21:46PM A COMMENDATION TO GREG SPEARMAN, PURCHASING DIRECTOR,
4:21:49PM EXCELLENT STAFF RECEIVING THE 2022 ACHIEVEMENT OF EXCELLENCE
4:21:53PM PROCUREMENT AWARD FOR 17th YEAR.
4:21:55PM ALSO, THE SAME DAY.
4:21:57PM LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT A PERSONAL COMMENDATION TO
4:22:00PM GREGORY SPEARMAN FOR RECEIVING THE DISTINGUISHED SERVICE
4:22:02PM AWARD THAT WAS AWARDED TO MR. SPEARMAN NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF

4:22:06PM GOVERNMENT PURCHASING ANNUAL FORUM IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY,
4:22:09PM IN AUGUST 21st, 2023.
4:22:11PM THAT WILL BE PRESENTED, IF YOU APPROVE IT, ON SEPTEMBER THE
4:22:14PM 7th, 2023.
4:22:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
4:22:16PM MIRANDA.
4:22:17PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:22:18PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:22:19PM AYE.
4:22:19PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:22:20PM YES, SIR.
4:22:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE SOME MORE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
4:22:22PM I HATE TO DO ALL THIS.
4:22:24PM AN EFFORT TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON THE
4:22:26PM 8/31/2023 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP AND AS WELL TO ASSIST
4:22:31PM MS. ABBYE FEELEY FROM A LOT OF WORKLOAD SHE HAS IN THE
4:22:35PM DEVELOPMENT ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY OFFICE, I WOULD LIKE TO
4:22:37PM SUGGEST THAT WE CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING TWO ITEMS TO DECEMBER
4:22:40PM WORKSHOP.
4:22:40PM ONE IS CODE ENFORCEMENT LAND DEVELOPMENT SITE TO BRING FORTH
4:22:45PM A PLAN BRINGING ILLEGAL RESIDENT UNITS INTO COMPLIANCE AND
4:22:49PM CONSTRUCTION SERVICE DEPARTMENT TO DISCUSS HOW THE CITY CAN
4:22:52PM FAIRLY AND SYSTEMATICALLY GO THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS TO
4:22:55PM IDENTIFY STRUCTURES AND WORK WITH A REALTOR AND REAL ESTATE
4:22:59PM COMMUNITY TO ADEQUATELY INFORM PROPERTY BUYERS, BUYERS OF

4:23:03PM PROPERTY, ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE ON THESE
4:23:07PM STRUCTURES.
4:23:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
4:23:10PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:23:12PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:23:13PM ANY OPPOSED.
4:23:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK I HAVE MORE THIS TIME THAN EVER
4:23:18PM HAD.
4:23:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE 38 MOTIONS.
4:23:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, I DO.
4:23:22PM ACTUALLY, I HAVE ONE, I HAVE A COUPLE.
4:23:25PM NOTHING BIG.
4:23:25PM I MAKE A MOTION TO COMBINE THE PUBLIC SAFETY MOTIONS, AUGUST
4:23:30PM 31st WORKSHOP AND THE FOLLOWING MOTION THAT WOULD REQUIRE
4:23:33PM ONE WORKSHOP.
4:23:34PM I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ALL OF MY 98 MOTIONS THAT WERE GOING TO
4:23:37PM BE HEARD THAT DAY.
4:23:38PM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT APPEAR AND
4:23:40PM PROVIDE AN ACTION PLAN TO ADDRESS THE FIRE AND POLICE
4:23:44PM DEFICITS AS PART OF A PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
4:23:48PM FURTHER, THAT SAID PLAN INCLUDES VARIOUS POTENTIAL REVENUE
4:23:50PM SOURCES TO ADDRESS THESE DEFICITS, INCLUDING FUNDING FOR
4:23:54PM ADDITIONAL FIRE STATIONS, MANPOWER, EQUIPMENT, AND MENTAL
4:23:59PM HEALTH SUPPORT UTILIZING UPDATED AND TIMELY DATA POINTS.
4:24:02PM I HAVE THAT.

4:24:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
4:24:04PM VIERA.
4:24:05PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
4:24:06PM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:24:08PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:24:09PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
4:24:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL DO THIS OFF-SITE, COMMENDATION TO THE
4:24:14PM POST 9/11 VETERANS CORPORATION TO BE DELIVERED ON NOVEMBER
4:24:17PM 10.
4:24:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
4:24:19PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
4:24:21PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:24:21PM AYE.
4:24:22PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:24:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, FOR THE FIRST WEEK IN DECEMBER, IF
4:24:26PM WE HAVE THAT OPEN, I WAS ACTUALLY GIVEN A PRESENTATION THAT
4:24:29PM I'D LOVE FOR COUNCIL TO SEE, WHICH IS ON THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN
4:24:33PM THAT WE HAVE FOR MAKING ALL OF OUR CITY PARKS DISABILITY
4:24:37PM ACCESSIBLE AND FRIENDLY.
4:24:39PM I KNOW IRONICALLY WE HAD THE NICE WOMAN COME FROM SOUTH
4:24:42PM TAMPA SPEAKING ON THAT.
4:24:43PM I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR CITY COUNCIL TO SEE THE PLAN
4:24:46PM THAT PARKS AND RECREATION HAS.
4:24:48PM I'D LIKE, IF I MAY, FOR THE FIRST WEEK IN DECEMBER, IF WE
4:24:51PM CAN.

4:24:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DECEMBER 7.
4:24:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT IS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN, I BELIEVE IT IS.
4:25:00PM $5 MILLION.
4:25:02PM I'D LOVE FOR US TO HEAR.
4:25:04PM FOR THE RECORD, SAY THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, WE DON'T
4:25:07PM NEED TO RAISE TAXES NECESSARILY TO MAKE OUR PLAYGROUNDS ADA
4:25:11PM ACCESSIBLE.
4:25:11PM DON'T TELL THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY THAT BECAUSE THAT'S
4:25:14PM OFFENSIVE.
4:25:15PM BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT REVENUE WE
4:25:19PM HAVE, WE OUGHT TO BE PUTTING BECAUSE ALL OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS
4:25:23PM OUGHT TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO ALL PEOPLE REGARDLESS OF THEIR
4:25:25PM ABILITIES.
4:25:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
4:25:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: READ MY LIPS.
4:25:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DIDN'T HEAR YOU PUT A TIME LIMIT.
4:25:32PM COULD YOU PUT IN A TEN-MINUTE TIME LIMIT?
4:25:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: ABSOLUTELY, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
4:25:37PM DO WE HAVE A BIG AGENDA THAT DAY?
4:25:40PM DECEMBER 7.
4:25:42PM THE PRESENTATION SHOULD BE FIVE MINUTES AND THEN THE REST OF
4:25:46PM IT WILL BE IN OUR HANDS.
4:25:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE'RE GENERALLY TRYING TO GET
4:25:51PM PRESENTATIONS OF FIVE OR TEN MINUTES.
4:25:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S FINE.

4:25:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO YOU WANT IT DURING STAFF REPORTS?
4:26:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: STAFF REPORTS.
4:26:03PM TO MAKE IT SHORTER.
4:26:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, SECOND
4:26:07PM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:26:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S IT.
4:26:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
4:26:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M EXCITED.
4:26:13PM SO LET ME JUST GET TO THIS.
4:26:14PM THIS ACTUALLY IS A MOTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE, AND
4:26:19PM IT'S ACTUALLY 47 YEARS DELAYED.
4:26:21PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER
4:26:25PM BY THE NAME OF LEO PALLE RECEIVE A COMMENDATION FOR HIS ACT
4:26:30PM OF KINDNESS AND COMPASSION TO A FAMILY WHOSE HOME WAS
4:26:35PM BURGLARIZED ON CHRISTMAS EVE DECEMBER 1976.
4:26:41PM AT THAT TIME, HE HELPED AN AMAZING FAMILY OF CHILDREN IN
4:26:49PM CARVER CITY.
4:26:51PM AND I JUST THINK THAT IF IT WERE TODAY, HE WOULD RECEIVE A
4:26:55PM POLICE OF THE MONTH COMMENDATION.
4:26:58PM AND 47 YEARS LATER, I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO RECEIVE THAT ON
4:27:01PM SEPTEMBER 7, 2023.
4:27:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
4:27:06PM HENDERSON.
4:27:07PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
4:27:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?

4:27:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: BEST MOTION I'VE HEARD IN A LONG TIME.
4:27:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING HIM.
4:27:15PM HE CAME TO MY SWEARING-IN CEREMONY.
4:27:18PM AND ONE THING I DID NOT KNOW WAS AFTER MY FATHER DIED, HE
4:27:21PM WOULD CONTINUE TO CHECK ON MY MOTHER.
4:27:23PM AND HE HAS HER PICTURE UP IN HIS HOUSE OF THE ARTICLE THAT
4:27:28PM THEY WROTE AND PUT IN THE TAMPA TRIBUNE AT THE TIME, I THINK
4:27:33PM THAT'S WHAT IT WAS CALLED.
4:27:34PM ANYWAY, I THINK HE DESERVES A COMMENDATION 47 YEARS LATER
4:27:38PM AND I APPRECIATE YOU OBLIGING ME.
4:27:40PM WE NEED TO VOTE, RIGHT?
4:27:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ALREADY DID.
4:27:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS SO EMOTIONAL, I DIDN'T HEAR IT.
4:27:47PM THE NEXT ONE, IN LIGHT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TERMS OF
4:27:50PM AFFIRMATIVE ACTION, YOU KNOW, AT THE SUPREME COURT LEVEL, I
4:27:55PM THOUGHT I WOULD DO SOMETHING POSITIVE.
4:27:59PM IN SEPTEMBER, THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 24 THROUGH THE 28 IS
4:28:03PM NATIONAL HBCU WEEK.
4:28:05PM HBCU STANDS FOR HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND
4:28:08PM UNIVERSITIES.
4:28:09PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE CITY OF
4:28:11PM TAMPA RECOGNIZES OUR COMMUNITY AND IN PARTICULAR CITY OF
4:28:14PM TAMPA STAFF WHO ARE HBCU GRADS, THEIR FAMILIES AND
4:28:18PM SUPPORTERS, AND DO SO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IN CELEBRATION OF
4:28:22PM NATIONAL HBCU WEEK AND BE RECOGNIZED AT CITY COUNCIL ON AN

4:28:26PM ANNUAL BASIS DURING THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER AND IN PARTICULAR
4:28:29PM ON SEPTEMBER 21st HEADING INTO THAT WEEK OF THE NATIONAL
4:28:33PM CELEBRATION.
4:28:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
4:28:35PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
4:28:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:28:37PM AYE.
4:28:38PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:28:38PM ANYTHING ELSE?
4:28:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
4:28:40PM THAT'S IT.
4:28:41PM THAT'S ENOUGH.
4:28:42PM I ACTUALLY THANK YOU FOR THE TISSUE.
4:28:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
4:28:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S WHY I WANTED YOU TO STAY, DR.
4:28:49PM COLLINS.
4:28:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.
4:28:53PM PORT OF TAMPA WILL PRESENT AT THE 8/31 WORKSHOP ON THE NEED
4:28:56PM TO PROTECT MARITIME LAND IN TAMPA.
4:28:59PM I ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE PORT OF TAMPA ON THAT
4:29:05PM 8/31 WORKSHOP TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE OF THEIR APPROVED MASTER
4:29:09PM PLAN AS IT IMPACTS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
4:29:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
4:29:14PM CLENDENIN WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
4:29:16PM ALL IN FAVOR?

4:29:16PM AYE.
4:29:17PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:29:18PM YES, SIR.
4:29:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ASK
4:29:23PM CITY LEGAL STAFF TO DRAFT A MOTION, AT HOME CITY COUNCIL
4:29:26PM DRINKING GAME SO THAT EVERY TIME THAT COUNCILWOMAN GWEN
4:29:31PM HENDERSON MENTIONS DRAGONS OR JEFFERSONS, EVERYBODY IS
4:29:34PM REQUIRED AT HOME TO TAKE A SHOT.
4:29:39PM [ LAUGHTER ]
4:29:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE CLERK IS A DRAGON, BY THE WAY.
4:29:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I RESCIND MY MOTION.
4:29:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS GOING TO SAY, DON'T BE JEALOUS.
4:29:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T WANT TO ENCOURAGE ALCOHOLISM
4:29:57PM THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA.
4:30:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU DIDN'T SAY IT WAS A SHOT OF WHAT.
4:30:02PM IT COULD BE GRAPEFRUIT JUICE.
4:30:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COULD BE MILK.
4:30:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DON'T BE JEALOUS OF US.
4:30:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REMEMBER, CHARLIE MIRANDA DIDN'T GO TO
4:30:11PM HIGH SCHOOL.
4:30:11PM HE WENT TO JEFFERSON.
4:30:12PM REMEMBER THAT.
4:30:13PM YES, MA'AM.
4:30:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS WEEK IN OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAD A
4:30:21PM COUPLE OF THINGS ON PAYING OUR CREDIT CARD FEES.

4:30:25PM AND BOTH OF THEM WERE $900,000.
4:30:27PM I THOUGHT THAT WAS A LOT OF MONEY TO PAY FOR CREDIT CARD
4:30:30PM FEE.
4:30:30PM I'M MOTIONING FOR STAFF TO RESEARCH A CHARGE FOR CUSTOMERS
4:30:34PM USING CREDIT CARDS TO PAY CITY FEES, INCLUDING SERVICE FEES
4:30:37PM IN LIEU OF CONVENIENCE FEES AND STRUCTURAL ASSESSMENTS THAT
4:30:41PM WOULD ALLOW VARYING FEES ACROSS BUSINESS SECTORS AND REPORT
4:30:44PM BACK TO COUNCIL ON NOVEMBER 2nd, 2023, AND THAT'S VERY
4:30:49PM CONVOLUTED BECAUSE I ASKED CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER ROGERO TO
4:30:54PM WRITE IT.
4:30:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOLD ON A SECOND.
4:30:56PM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN A CUSTOMER PAYS A CITY OF TAMPA
4:30:59PM FOR A SERVICE, WE ABSORB THE CREDIT CARD FEES.
4:31:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
4:31:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I GO TO THE DMV, I GO ANYWHERE, WE
4:31:06PM GET CHARGED THAT SERVICE FEE.
4:31:08PM THAT'S A MILLION DOLLARS ALMOST.
4:31:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TWICE.
4:31:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION WITH HIM
4:31:14PM OFF-LINE.
4:31:15PM I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT FORWARD.
4:31:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:31:17PM AND HE SAID THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT
4:31:21PM FOR EVERY DIFFERENT THING.
4:31:23PM COMING AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET AND WAYS WE CAN

4:31:25PM SAVE MONEY, THAT'S $2 MILLION RIGHT THERE.
4:31:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE $700,000 OF THAT AND PUT IT AT
4:31:32PM IMPROVEMENTS TOWARDS HENRY AND OLA PARK.
4:31:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU COULD.
4:31:37PM HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORT THAT.
4:31:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OR ALAN CLENDENIN'S VACATION FUND.
4:31:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
4:31:47PM HURTAK.
4:31:47PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
4:31:49PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:31:49PM AYE.
4:31:50PM ANYTHING ELSE?
4:31:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:31:52PM I MOTION FOR STAFF AND THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY, I THINK
4:31:57PM IT'S SKANSKA TO COME BACK ON SEPTEMBER 7 AND EXPLAIN WHY
4:32:00PM RESIDENTS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO ASK QUESTIONS DURING THE EAST
4:32:02PM TAMPA REC CENTER FINAL RENDERING MEETING AND CREATE A
4:32:07PM DEDICATED PLAN ON HOW RESIDENTS WILL HAVE REGULAR UPDATES
4:32:10PM AND QUESTION-AND-ANSWER SESSIONS THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT.
4:32:13PM I RECOMMEND THAT SKANSKA LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE
4:32:15PM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS STORMWATER PROJECT AND ITS
4:32:19PM SUCCESSES AND FAILURES IN CRAFTING THAT PLAN.
4:32:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
4:32:22PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
4:32:23PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.

4:32:25PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:32:26PM ANY OPPOSED?
4:32:27PM ANYTHING ELSE?
4:32:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
4:32:29PM I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF, AND THIS CAME OUT OF MY CONVERSATIONS
4:32:35PM WITH, AGAIN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER ROGERO ABOUT BUDGETS
4:32:39PM AND HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT MONEY, AS IT MOVES THROUGH THE
4:32:43PM SYSTEM.
4:32:43PM I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF PRESENT A QUARTERLY BUDGET REPORT THREE
4:32:47PM WEEKS AFTER EACH QUARTER TO INCLUDE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN
4:32:50PM ACTUALS AND QUARTERLY BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
4:32:53PM SO THAT KIND OF SHOWS HOW THE MONEY IS MOVING AROUND SO THAT
4:32:58PM WE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO IN THE FUTURE
4:33:01PM AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE PUTTING IT IN THE RIGHT PLACE TO
4:33:03PM BEGIN WITH.
4:33:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK,
4:33:07PM SECOND --
4:33:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DISCUSSION, CAN YOU SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME
4:33:12PM FOR ME, PLEASE?
4:33:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.
4:33:13PM STAFF PRESENT A QUARTERLY BUDGET REPORT, SO AFTER EACH
4:33:17PM QUARTER, WHERE THE MONEY WENT.
4:33:19PM LIKE THE ACTUALS FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR, TO INCLUDE THE
4:33:24PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN ACTUALS SO WE KNOW HOW THAT MONEY
4:33:27PM IS BEING SPENT AND WHERE IT'S BEING SPENT AND QUARTERLY

4:33:30PM BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
4:33:30PM SO THEY COME IN FRONT OF US TO AMEND, BUT WE DON'T -- I
4:33:34PM MEAN, I DON'T KEEP TRACK OF THAT.
4:33:36PM SO THEY DO.
4:33:36PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT MONEY MOVES THROUGHOUT THE
4:33:40PM YEAR.
4:33:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN YOU AMEND THAT TO INCLUDE EBO
4:33:43PM PARTICIPATION?
4:33:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.
4:33:46PM I THINK THAT'S DIFFERENT, THOUGH.
4:33:48PM I DON'T KNOW THAT --
4:33:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN WE APPROVE A CONTRACT, THEY USUALLY
4:33:53PM GIVE US EBO NUMBERS.
4:33:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER MOTION.
4:33:57PM I WOULD 100% SUPPORT YOU IF YOU MADE THAT MOTION.
4:34:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO THIS MOTION FIRST.
4:34:02PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:34:03PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
4:34:04PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:34:06PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:34:07PM AYE.
4:34:08PM IS THERE A SECOND MOTION IN REGARDS TO EBO OR DO YOU WANT TO
4:34:12PM MAKE IT AT A FUTURE DATE?
4:34:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO WRITE IT OUT AND SAY IT.
4:34:17PM I'LL DO IT LATER.

4:34:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
4:34:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I HAVE ONE LAST ONE THAT GOES WITH THE
4:34:24PM AUGUST 31st WORKSHOP.
4:34:27PM I'M SAYING THIS NOW BEFORE I EVEN MAKE THE MOTION.
4:34:32PM WE'RE NOT GOING TO NOT TALK ABOUT WATER REUSE, BUT WE'RE
4:34:36PM CHANGING.
4:34:36PM THE FIRST MOTION, BECAUSE THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE
4:34:39PM PRESENTED IS OUTDATED AND NO LONGER NEEDED, I MOVE TO
4:34:43PM WITHDRAW THE MOTION THAT THE CITIZENS STAKEHOLDER GROUP BE
4:34:45PM REQUESTED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE PURE PCL CONTRACT
4:34:49PM DURING THE AUGUST 31st WORKSHOP SESSION.
4:34:51PM I CAN READ THAT MOTION TO YOU IF YOU WANT ME TO.
4:34:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'RE TAKING AN ITEM OFF THE WORKSHOP.
4:34:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TAKING THE ITEM OFF THE WORKSHOP AND
4:34:58PM REPLACING IT WITH SOMETHING ELSE.
4:35:00PM THE ITEM I'M TAKING OFF IS CITIZENS STAKEHOLDER GROUP TO
4:35:03PM PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE USE OF FUNDING LEFT IN THE PCL
4:35:06PM CONTRACT APPROVED IN FEBRUARY 2022 TO ANALYZE BEST AND
4:35:09PM WORST-CASE SCENARIOS OF CONTINUING THE WATER STATUS COULD WE
4:35:13PM ON SENATE BILL 64 MINIMUM FLOWS ON THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER
4:35:15PM AND DROUGHT-PROOFING THE RESERVOIR BECAUSE NOW THE PCL
4:35:19PM CONTRACT IS ONLY GOING WITH THE SIXTH PROJECT.
4:35:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:35:22PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:35:24PM ALL IN FAVOR?

4:35:24PM AYE.
4:35:25PM WHAT DO YOU WISH TO REPLACE WITH?
4:35:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN LIEU OF THE REPORT ASSOCIATED WITH
4:35:29PM WITHDRAWN MOTION, I MOVE FOR STAFF TO PRESENT A REPORT TO
4:35:33PM CITY COUNCIL ON THE STATUS OF THE SIX PILOT PROJECT DURING
4:35:36PM THE AUGUST 31st 2023 WORKSHOP TO PREVENT ANY CONFUSION,
4:35:40PM THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THE MOTION THAT STATES CITY STAFF AND
4:35:43PM A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SIERRA CLUB TO REPORT ON HOW THE
4:35:46PM CITY CAN MODIFY THE STATE LAW, SB 64 OR DEP GUIDELINES
4:35:51PM REGARDING WASTEWATER REUSE, SLASH, PURE.
4:35:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:35:57PM SECOND FROM --
4:35:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS IT POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE
4:36:02PM THINGS OFF THE 31st THAT WE COULD MOVE THAT TO SEPTEMBER?
4:36:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE STAKEHOLDER GROUP HAS BEEN WORKING REALLY
4:36:08PM HARD TO BE PREPARED.
4:36:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S KEEP THAT.
4:36:11PM IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED.
4:36:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
4:36:14PM I'LL SECOND.
4:36:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE TRIED.
4:36:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:36:17PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:36:18PM AYE.
4:36:19PM ANY OPPOSED?

4:36:19PM ANYTHING ELSE.
4:36:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, THAT'S IT.
4:36:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
4:36:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, OUR BUDGET FINANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
4:36:28PM MET.
4:36:29PM I HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF THE MEMBERS.
4:36:34PM A LOT OF THINGS, BUT ONE OF THEM WAS THEY ASKED STAFF
4:36:38PM SEVERAL TIMES I THINK OVER MORE THAN ONE MEETING, FOR A COPY
4:36:41PM OF THE BUDGET THAT DID NOT INCLUDE THE INCREASE.
4:36:46PM AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THEY ASKED APPARENTLY WAS WHAT
4:36:51PM HAPPENS ON SEPTEMBER 5th IF WE DON'T APPROVE THE TAX
4:36:54PM INCREASE, THERE'S NO BUDGET TO APPROVE BECAUSE THERE'S NO
4:36:57PM ALTERNATIVE BUDGET, AND THEY WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE
4:37:00PM BUDGET -- HOW THE BUDGET WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT IF WE DID NOT
4:37:02PM APPROVE IT.
4:37:03PM SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE CFO TO PROVIDE TO
4:37:08PM CITY COUNCIL BEFORE SEPTEMBER 5TH A COPY OF THE 2024 BUDGET
4:37:12PM WITHOUT THE TAX INCREASE.
4:37:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
4:37:14PM CARLSON.
4:37:15PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
4:37:16PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
4:37:21PM ANY DISCUSSION?
4:37:21PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
4:37:24PM OR WHOEVER.

4:37:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BECAUSE OF THE TIMELINE, MY CONCERN IS
4:37:29PM THEM GOING TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO FIGURE THAT OUT OR ARE
4:37:35PM THEY RELYING ON LAST YEAR'S DATA.
4:37:38PM WE'RE CITY COUNCIL SO WE GET TO MAKE THIS DECISION.
4:37:41PM I DON'T KNOW.
4:37:42PM I JUST FEEL LIKE THEY WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME.
4:37:44PM WE'LL SEE WHAT THE VOTE SAYS.
4:37:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD IT PREPARED.
4:37:50PM IF WE RAISE THE MILLAGE, WE GET TO DO THIS.
4:37:53PM IF WE DON'T DO ANYTHING, IT'S GOING TO BE BUSINESS AS USUAL.
4:37:57PM THAT'S WHAT I WAS TOLD.
4:37:58PM SOMEBODY KNOWS IF, YES AND NO.
4:38:02PM THEY MAY HAVE IT.
4:38:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE.
4:38:06PM I IMAGINE THEY HAVE ONE.
4:38:08PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THING SENT OUT BY THE TAX COLLECTOR,
4:38:14PM TAX ASSESSOR ENRIQUEZ'S OFFICE, IT SAYS PROPOSED AND THE
4:38:19PM OTHER ONE.
4:38:20PM SO THE TRIM NOTICE TELLS YOU WHAT THE AMOUNT DIFFERENCE IS
4:38:23PM AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY COLLECTED.
4:38:25PM SO THEY GOT TO HAVE ANOTHER BUDGET SOMEWHERE.
4:38:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
4:38:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS THE
4:38:32PM ADMINISTRATION'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PREPARE A BUDGET AND
4:38:34PM SUBMIT IT.

4:38:37PM TO THE COUNCIL, WHICH THEY ACCOMPLISHED.
4:38:39PM THEY DID.
4:38:40PM I THINK NOW THE BALL IS IN OUR COURT.
4:38:43PM WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET, AND IF YOU DON'T WANT TO APPROVE
4:38:45PM THE PROPOSED REVENUE STREAM, YOU GO THROUGH AND YOU SLICE
4:38:49PM WHAT NEEDS TO COME OFF OF IT.
4:38:51PM SO THE ADMINISTRATION FULFILLED THEIR END OF THE BARGAIN.
4:38:54PM NOW IT'S IN COUNCIL'S -- WE CAN'T SAY WE WANT THIS
4:38:57PM RESPONSIBILITY AND THEN DEFER IT.
4:38:58PM SO THE ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO
4:39:01PM DO.
4:39:02PM THEY SUBMITTED AND PROPOSED BUDGET, SUBMITTED IT TO COUNCIL.
4:39:05PM IT'S NOW IN OUR COURT.
4:39:06PM WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET.
4:39:08PM WE DECIDE WHAT WE WANT, WHAT WE DON'T WANT, WHAT WE WANT TO
4:39:11PM FUND, WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO FUND, WHAT WE STIPULATE.
4:39:14PM THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
4:39:16PM HONESTLY, I THINK IT'S KIND OF LIKE WANTING YOUR CAKE AND
4:39:20PM EATING IT, TOO.
4:39:21PM THEY FULFILLED THEIR ENDS OF THE BUILDING.
4:39:24PM WE LOOK AT THAT BUDGET, IF YOU DECIDE THAT -- WHERE WE WANT
4:39:28PM TO SAVE MONEY, IF WE DON'T WANT TO PASS A FULL MILLAGE OR
4:39:33PM CUT INTO IT OR DO NOTHING, LET'S SHOW WHAT IT IS WE WANT TO
4:39:37PM CUT.
4:39:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW, THE THING WITH THAT IS A BUDGET WAS

4:39:42PM DELIVERED TO US WITH A PROPOSED ONE MILL INCREASE.
4:39:48PM IF WE THEN IN TURN DON'T WANT TO SUPPORT -- IF PEOPLE SAY DO
4:39:52PM NOT RAISE OUR TAXES AT ALL.
4:39:54PM I DON'T SUPPORT ANY KIND OF MILLAGE INCREASE, THEN IT'S
4:39:58PM SPUN, AND IT LOOKS LIKE CITY COUNCIL CUT EVERYTHING.
4:40:01PM NO, CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T WANT TO RAISE OR DID WANT TO RAISE
4:40:04PM YOUR TAXES AND THEREFORE THE BLAME SHIFTS TO US.
4:40:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE ADMINISTRATION SUBMITS A BUDGET WITH A
4:40:10PM PROPOSED REVENUE STREAM.
4:40:11PM THAT WAS THE PROPOSED REVENUE STREAM.
4:40:13PM IF WE DON'T WANT THAT REVENUE STREAM, THEN WE GO THROUGH AND
4:40:18PM THIS IS WHAT THE BUDGET LOOKS LIKE WITHOUT THE REVENUE
4:40:20PM STREAM.
4:40:20PM THEY ARE NOT OBLIGATED BY CHARTER TO SUBMIT MULTIPLE
4:40:23PM BUDGETS.
4:40:24PM SO I THINK IT'S LIKE WHAT COMES FIRST, THE CHICKEN OR THE
4:40:27PM EGG.
4:40:28PM THIS IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
4:40:30PM THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO FULFILL THAT BUDGET.
4:40:33PM MY GOD, WE COULD ROLL BACK TAXES BY 50%.
4:40:36PM WE JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT BUDGET AND FIGURE OUT WHAT
4:40:39PM WE'RE GOING TO CUT.
4:40:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, MIRANDA, VIERA.
4:40:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK IT ACTUALLY IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE FOR
4:40:46PM A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING DON'T RAISE TAXES, WE'RE

4:40:52PM HEARING THEM BUT I DON'T THINK THEY UNDERSTAND.
4:40:55PM I THINK SOMETIMES A VISUAL MIGHT HELP.
4:40:58PM I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THAT ONE EXISTS BECAUSE YOU DO NEED TO
4:41:02PM PREPARE FOR THAT.
4:41:03PM AND THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN GETTING THE SAME E-MAILS WE
4:41:05PM HAVE.
4:41:06PM SO THEY HAVE TO BE PREPARING FOR --
4:41:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DON'T YOU THINK THE BALL IS IN OUR COURT
4:41:12PM NOW?
4:41:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO TO SOME DEGREE.
4:41:15PM IF WE DON'T RAISE THE MILL, THEY ALREADY KNOW WHERE THEY
4:41:17PM WOULD MOVE THAT MONEY, WHERE THE FUNDING WOULD BE.
4:41:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY NOW.
4:41:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T AGREE.
4:41:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION IS REQUIRED BY
4:41:25PM A CERTAIN DATE TO SUBMIT A BUDGET.
4:41:27PM I'M THE NEW GUY.
4:41:28PM YOU GUYS CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
4:41:30PM THE ADMINISTRATION IS REQUIRED BY CHARTER TO SUBMIT A BUDGET
4:41:32PM TO US.
4:41:34PM THEY FULFILLED THEIR OBLIGATION.
4:41:38PM NOW, SO I THINK IT'S UP TO US WHEN WE TALK TO THE COMMUNITY
4:41:41PM THAT IF THIS IS NOT THE BUDGET YOU WANT, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE
4:41:45PM GOING TO HAVE TO DO.
4:41:48PM WE'LL HAVE TO FUND THIS PROGRAM AT THIS LEVEL.

4:41:51PM AND THAT BALL IS IN OUR COURT NOW, BUT WE HAVE TO DO THAT
4:41:55PM BECAUSE THEY FULFILLED THEIR END OF THE BARGAIN.
4:41:57PM CHARLIE HAS BEEN HERE LONGER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE.
4:41:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF AND THE
4:42:04PM BACKGROUND TO NECESSARILY BE ABLE TO -- I MEAN, I'M STILL
4:42:10PM TRYING TO BE A LINE-ITEM BREAKDOWN OF THE BUDGET.
4:42:14PM I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT AND I'M NOT HAPPY BECAUSE I CAN'T
4:42:16PM MAKE A DECISION WHEN I SEE THIS GIANT "OTHER" COLUMN WITH
4:42:20PM $57 MILLION.
4:42:22PM IF I CAN'T SEE A BREAKDOWN LINE ITEM OF WHERE EVERY PENNY IS
4:42:26PM GOING, I'M STRUGGLING TO APPROVE A BUDGET PERIOD.
4:42:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE.
4:42:29PM YOU HEARD IN THAT MOTION THAT I MADE ABOUT THE NEXT FISCAL
4:42:32PM YEAR BUDGET, MY EXPECTATION, A REAL BUDGET THAT WE CAN DO
4:42:37PM THOSE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE CAN HAVE IN FRONT
4:42:39PM OF US.
4:42:39PM I AGREE 100%.
4:42:41PM BUT IT APPEARS TO ME BASED ON HISTORICAL REFERENCES AND
4:42:44PM FOLKS I'VE SPOKEN WITH, THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE AND
4:42:48PM WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE THIS IN A 45 DAY PERIOD FOR THIS
4:42:51PM FISCAL YEAR.
4:42:52PM SO WE KIND OF HAVE TO MAKE -- WE HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT WE
4:42:57PM HAVE WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE.
4:42:58PM AGAIN, WE HAVE 11 MONTHS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEXT TIME WE
4:43:05PM GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE HAVE THE INFORMATION WE NEED.

4:43:07PM WE HAVE THE LINE ITEMS.
4:43:09PM WE HAVE A BOOK THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE GENERAL FUND AND THE
4:43:12PM CAPITAL FUND, ALL THERE FOR ME TO LOOK AT AND MINE IN
4:43:16PM WRITING, PLEASE, IN BLACK AND WHITE, ON PAPER, SO THAT I CAN
4:43:21PM RED LINE AND GO THROUGH AND DO THE STUFF I WANT TO DO.
4:43:24PM BASED ON WHERE WE ARE AT NOW, HISTORICALLY WHAT THEY HAVE
4:43:26PM DONE, PRESENTED THE BUDGET, SUBMITTED TO US, THIS BODY IS
4:43:29PM EMPOWERED TO GO THROUGH THERE WITH WHATEVER INFORMATION WE
4:43:33PM HAVE.
4:43:33PM TAKE YOUR ELECTRONIC RED PEN TO IT.
4:43:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE DONE THE SAME THING.
4:43:37PM I FINALLY ACQUIESCED AND PRINTED THE WHOLE THING OUT.
4:43:41PM PRINTED WHOLE 600 ODD PAGES.
4:43:44PM I'M WRITING IT UP.
4:43:45PM I'VE NOTES ON EVERY SINGLE -- I MEAN, I HAVE A -- I'M
4:43:48PM WORKING ON IT THIS WEEKEND.
4:43:50PM YEAH, IT'S A LOT.
4:43:52PM I'M NOT GETTING THE ANSWERS.
4:43:54PM I HAVE WAY MORE QUESTIONS THAN I HAVE TIME TO EVEN LIKE TYPE
4:43:59PM UP AND SEND.
4:44:00PM IT'S GOING TO BE REAL INTERESTING.
4:44:01PM BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT WOULD HELP US MAKE A DECISION.
4:44:07PM AND THEN FROM THERE, IF YOU HAVE THE MILL INCREASE AND THE
4:44:11PM NO INCREASE, THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY SCALE UP EASIER, BECAUSE
4:44:16PM IF WE WANTED TO SAY, OKAY, WELL, MAYBE ONE IS TOO MUCH,

4:44:19PM MAYBE A QUARTER, THEN IF WE HAVE THE ZERO, THE QUARTER, I
4:44:23PM DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU.
4:44:24PM I'M MUCH BETTER AT ADDING THAN I AM SUBTRACTING.
4:44:28PM IT'S JUST HARDER FOR THE HUMAN BRAIN TO THINK.
4:44:31PM I WOULD REALLY LOVE THAT NO MILL, A, FOR FOLKS TO REALLY SEE
4:44:38PM WHAT THEY AREN'T GOING TO GET.
4:44:39PM AND THEN, B, TO BE ABLE TO MODIFY IT IF PEOPLE STILL REFUSE.
4:44:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, COUNCIL MEMBER
4:44:48PM VIERA.
4:44:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
4:44:51PM MY ONLY SUGGESTION, IT IS OUR BUDGET ONCE IT'S HANDED TO US.
4:44:56PM BUT ONCE IT'S HANDED TO US, YOU HAVE A VERY SHORT WINDOW TO
4:45:01PM PASS IT ON THE FIRST AND ON THE SECOND READING.
4:45:03PM IF YOU DON'T AND GO PAST THE OCTOBER DEADLINE, YOU'VE GOT A
4:45:08PM PROBLEM WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GIVING US BOND ISSUES AND
4:45:11PM EVERYTHING ELSE.
4:45:12PM AND YOU'RE GOING TO POSSIBLY GET INTO SOME DANGER OF LOSING
4:45:16PM SOME OF YOUR CREDIBILITY.
4:45:17PM I SUGGEST IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, I THINK WE OUGHT TO MAKE A
4:45:21PM MOTION RIGHT NOW TO ASK THEM TO SEND US ONE WITHOUT THE
4:45:24PM MILLAGE INCREASE.
4:45:26PM AND WHAT WE'RE SPENDING IT FOR.
4:45:29PM THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT, ONE NOW -- SEND US ONE NOW WITHOUT
4:45:33PM THE MILLAGE INCREASE AND SEND ONE WITH A MILLAGE INCREASE.
4:45:36PM AND THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO LOOK UP BECAUSE

4:45:40PM THERE'S THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF THINGS WE
4:45:42PM PURCHASE AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF INVOICES WE GO
4:45:45PM THROUGH, AND WE'RE NEVER GOING TO FINISH IN TWO YEARS TO
4:45:48PM LOOK DOWN AND DO THAT KIND OF WORK IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME.
4:45:52PM IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN IN MY OPINION.
4:45:54PM IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, YOU BETTER SAY IT NOW SO THEY CAN'T
4:45:58PM SAY WE GAVE THEM SHORT NOTICE.
4:46:00PM THAT'S ALL.
4:46:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S WHAT YOUR MOTION SAYS.
4:46:03PM TWO BUDGETS WITH AND WITHOUT THE MILLAGE.
4:46:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR THE OTHER ONE.
4:46:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO IT.
4:46:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
4:46:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:46:13PM I'LL OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT THE MOTION.
4:46:15PM I ALSO THINK THE ADMINISTRATION, AND I COMMUNICATED THIS
4:46:19PM PRIVATELY, SHOULD BE READY FOR A VARIETY OF SITUATIONS.
4:46:22PM THERE ARE FOUR BUCKETS OF PROPOSED SPENDING ESSENTIALLY THAT
4:46:25PM THIS MILLAGE WILL GO TO.
4:46:26PM AND THEY OUGHT TO BE PREPARED FOR VARIOUS SCENARIOS.
4:46:30PM IT'S NOT ALL OR NOTHING.
4:46:32PM IT'S NOT SUPPORT THE 1.0 OR NO.
4:46:34PM THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF SPACE IN BETWEEN THERE, ET CETERA.
4:46:37PM I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO SAY THAT THERE'S NOT SUPPORT ON
4:46:42PM COUNCIL.

4:46:43PM MY OPINION, JUST FROM HEARING COMMENTS UP HERE, ET CETERA,
4:46:46PM FOR THE FULL 1.0 POTENTIALLY.
4:46:49PM AND I DON'T WANT TO SAY -- I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE.
4:46:52PM SO I DON'T MEAN TO OFFEND ANYBODY OR ANYTHING OF THAT
4:46:54PM NATURE.
4:46:54PM I DON'T THINK THERE WILL BE A MAJORITY SUPPORT.
4:46:56PM I KNOW FOR MYSELF I CAME OUT AGAINST IT AS SOON AS I HEARD
4:47:00PM ABOUT IT AND FOR REASONS THAT I'VE GONE OVER MANY, MANY
4:47:03PM TIMES.
4:47:03PM I THINK IT WOULD BE EFFICIENT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FOUR
4:47:07PM BUCKETS AND TALK ABOUT, AS THEY HAVE, WHERE EACH, HOW MUCH
4:47:12PM MONEY GOES TO EACH SECTION, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, BECAUSE IF
4:47:16PM YOU JUST SEND OUT WHAT WE HAVE COMING TO US FOR THE 1.0 MILL
4:47:21PM AND THEN YOU ALLOW CITY COUNCIL TO IN A HEARING GO OVER
4:47:25PM THAT, ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BE THE TOWER OF BABEL, RIGHT, AND
4:47:28PM WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING SAUSAGE IN PUBLIC.
4:47:30PM WE SAW IN 2017, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, COUNCILMAN
4:47:33PM MANISCALCO --
4:47:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MALFEASANCE.
4:47:37PM THAT WAS THE WORD OF THE NIGHT.
4:47:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, YEAH.
4:47:39PM WE WERE HERE UNTIL 1 OR 2 A.M.
4:47:42PM NONE OF US OBVIOUSLY WERE AFRAID OF DOING THAT.
4:47:44PM BUT WE WANT TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE WANT A
4:47:48PM BUDGET THAT IS RESPONSIBLE, THAT MEETS OUR NEEDS AND ALSO

4:47:50PM REFLECTS THE ECONOMY THAT WE HAVE TODAY WITH INFLATION.
4:47:54PM I THINK WE'RE BALANCING A LOT OF THINGS.
4:47:56PM AND I WANT TO HAVE A VARIETY OF SCENARIOS PRESENTED BEFORE
4:47:59PM US.
4:48:00PM BUT I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT IT.
4:48:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A COUPLE OF THINGS, I'VE HAD QUITE A FEW
4:48:06PM PEOPLE SHOW ME THEIR TRIM NOTICES BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE
4:48:08PM GETTING THEM THE LAST 48 HOURS IN THE MAIL.
4:48:11PM I GOT MINE.
4:48:12PM OTHER FOLKS GOT THEIRS.
4:48:13PM NO ONE BROUGHT ME THE TRIM, NOT EVEN WHEN WE HAD THE
4:48:16PM STORMWATER DISCUSSION.
4:48:18PM WELL, ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, TWO PEOPLE.
4:48:20PM BUT WITH THIS, PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED.
4:48:22PM ANOTHER THING IS PERHAPS -- I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCILMAN
4:48:26PM CARLSON WOULD AGREE TO THIS, BUT IN REGARDS TO OUR RESERVES,
4:48:31PM I THINK WE'RE ABOVE THE THRESHOLD THAT WE NEED TO BE, IF WE
4:48:36PM NEED TO DIP IN OUR RESERVE, KEEP THE OPTION OPEN.
4:48:39PM COULD BE A NO.
4:48:40PM COULD BE A YES.
4:48:41PM ALSO THE MOTION MADE AT CRA THE OTHER DAY AND HOW WE CAN
4:48:44PM FREE UP DOWNTOWN CRA MONEY, THE POLICE STATION DISCUSSION
4:48:48PM AND WHATNOT, JUST LOOK AT DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET TO WHERE WE
4:48:51PM NEED TO BE WITHOUT HAVING TO RAISE THE MILLAGE OR WITHOUT
4:48:55PM HAVING TO GO ONE ROUTE OR ANOTHER.

4:48:58PM JUST LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS.
4:49:00PM PUT ALL OPTION ON THESE THE TABLE AND SEE WHERE IT GOES.
4:49:03PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAVE A MOTION.
4:49:05PM WAS THERE A SECOND TO IT?
4:49:06PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:49:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: THEY WOULD DELIVER IT TO US BEFORE SEPTEMBER
4:49:15PM 5th.
4:49:16PM I CAN SET IT EARLIER.
4:49:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE'S NO TIME BEFORE.
4:49:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: I ASSUME LIKE SOME OF YOU SAID THAT THEY
4:49:24PM HAVE IT SOMEWHERE.
4:49:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT CAN'T BE SEPTEMBER 4th.
4:49:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY NEED TO GIVE IT TO US THE FRIDAY BEFORE.
4:49:30PM FRIDAY BEFORE LABOR DAY.
4:49:33PM THAT'S LABOR DAY WEEKEND.
4:49:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S SEPTEMBER 1st.
4:49:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT'S FAIR.
4:49:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
4:49:43PM CARLSON.
4:49:44PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
4:49:46PM ALL IN FAVOR?
4:49:48PM AYE.
4:49:49PM ANY OPPOSED.
4:49:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M GOING TO SAY NAY.
4:49:51PM I THINK THAT'S TOO QUICK.

4:49:53PM WE DO NEED IT.
4:49:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S $2 BILLION OF THE PUBLIC'S MONEY.
4:49:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AGREE WITH THAT, TOO.
4:50:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO REEMPHASIZE WE HAVE 11 MONTHS TO
4:50:08PM FIX NEXT YEAR.
4:50:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DO HAVE 11 MONTHS TO FIX NEXT YEAR AND I
4:50:13PM WILL BE BEHIND YOU 100% IF WE DECIDE NOT TO GO WITH OPEN GOV
4:50:16PM BECAUSE IT IS VERY CONFUSING.
4:50:18PM ONLINE CAN HELP BUT NOT IN EVERY WAY.
4:50:20PM I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T NEED EVERY SINGLE INVOICE.
4:50:22PM THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.
4:50:24PM LITERALLY I NEED TO KNOW WHAT GOES TO OFFICE SUPPLIES.
4:50:28PM JUST THAT SORT OF STUFF.
4:50:30PM BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU NOW THAT I EXPECT SEPTEMBER 5th,
4:50:34PM I WILL HAVE PLACES AND MONEY TO MOVE.
4:50:38PM IT DOESN'T MATTER, MILL OR NO MILL.
4:50:40PM I WILL COME WITH CHANGES AND COPIES FOR EVERYBODY TO LOOK
4:50:44PM AT.
4:50:45PM I THINK THAT NIGHT WE ARE GOING TO BE MAKING SAUSAGE.
4:50:48PM I FULLY EXPECT IT.
4:50:51PM I ACTUALLY THINK THE PUBLIC REALLY LOVES TO SEE IT BECAUSE
4:50:53PM THEY LOVE TO SEE HOW WE'RE WORKING TO TRY TO GET STUFF DONE,
4:50:58PM WHETHER IT BE WITH OR WITHOUT A MILL.
4:51:01PM EVEN IF WE GET THE MILL, DOES THAT MONEY ALL NEED TO BE
4:51:04PM GOING WHERE THEY SAY?

4:51:05PM LIKE I THINK THAT SOME THINGS NEED TO BE MOVED AROUND IF WE
4:51:09PM GET THE MILL.
4:51:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ONE DOCUMENT OR TWO DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS?
4:51:12PM CAN THE NUMBERS BE SIDE BY SIDE?
4:51:14PM THAT WOULD BE EASIER IF THEY CAN PUT THEM SIDE BY SIDE.
4:51:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE PROBLEM IS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING
4:51:20PM TO GET A PHYSICAL COPY.
4:51:22PM WE MIGHT GET A DIGITAL COPY.
4:51:24PM WHEN IT COMES TO NUMBERS AND DIGITAL, I JUST DON'T --
4:51:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT'S VERY EASY BECAUSE THEY SAID
4:51:29PM WITH THIS FULL MILL IT GENERATES X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
4:51:32PM WE JUST DEDUCT THAT AND SAY WE WON'T GET THAT EXTRA 45
4:51:36PM MILLION.
4:51:36PM THAT'S IT.
4:51:37PM BECAUSE THERE IS GROWTH.
4:51:40PM THERE IS REVENUE INCOME THAT HAS BEEN INCREASING YEAR AFTER
4:51:43PM YEAR WITH CAPITAL VALUES, EVEN THOUGH CAPPED AT 3%, THE CITY
4:51:47PM IS MAKING MONEY.
4:51:48PM WE DIDN'T SPEND IT ALL.
4:51:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOVE TO CLOSE.
4:51:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE VOTED -- CAN WE CALL THE VOTE?
4:51:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE VOTED AND COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID
4:52:00PM NO.
4:52:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I VOTED NO.
4:52:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF

4:52:05PM COMMENTS.
4:52:05PM EVERY YEAR FOR FOUR YEARS, I SAID THE SAME THING THAT
4:52:09PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN DID.
4:52:10PM LET'S START EARLY.
4:52:11PM WE HAVE 11 MONTHS.
4:52:13PM I EVEN MADE MOTIONS THE FIRST OR SECOND YEAR TO START THE
4:52:16PM DISCUSSIONS LIKE IN MARCH.
4:52:18PM WHAT HAPPENED IS THEN STAFF CAME AND EXPLAINED TO US HOW THE
4:52:21PM DEPARTMENTS ARE STRUCTURED INSTEAD OF HAVING MEETINGS WITH
4:52:23PM US ABOUT THE BUDGET.
4:52:24PM IN THIS CASE, OUR OWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAD SEVERAL
4:52:29PM MEETINGS WITH THE CFO AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF LEADING UP TO
4:52:33PM THIS WEEK, AND IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS THEY ASKED
4:52:36PM THEM, ARE YOU GOING TO PROPOSE A RATE INCREASE?
4:52:39PM AND THEY DIDN'T TELL THEM.
4:52:41PM PART OF THE DISCUSSION, WAS IT YESTERDAY?
4:52:45PM WAS THAT THEY WERE FRUSTRATED THAT THE ADMINISTRATION GAVE
4:52:49PM THEM NO ADVANCED NOTICE OF THIS.
4:52:52PM SO HAD THEY TOLD US IN MARCH THAT THEY WERE PLANNING ON
4:52:57PM DOING THIS, YOU ALL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER A YEAR AGO, I MADE
4:53:00PM A MOTION WHICH YOU ALL SUPPORTED TO LOOK INTO ADDING 200
4:53:04PM POLICE OFFICERS.
4:53:04PM THE ADMINISTRATION CAME BACK AND FOR MONTHS VEHEMENTLY SAID
4:53:09PM WE DON'T NEED ANY POLICE OFFICERS.
4:53:10PM THE MAYOR WENT TO NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS IN SOUTH TAMPA

4:53:12PM SAYING I DIDN'T TELL THE TRUTH AND THEY NEED ZERO POLICE
4:53:17PM OFFICERS.
4:53:18PM BUT NOW THEY ARE PROPOSING 30.
4:53:21PM HAD WE BEEN ON THE SAME TABLE, HAD WE HAD A COLLABORATIVE
4:53:24PM PROCESS WE COULD HAVE CHANGED THIS.
4:53:26PM EVERY YEAR WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IT BUT HAVEN'T HAD IT.
4:53:29PM I HOPE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN CAN DO THAT.
4:53:32PM BUT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR IT FOR A LONG TIME.
4:53:34PM I THINK IT WOULD BE IN THE PREFERENCE OF THE MAYOR'S OFFICE,
4:53:41PM IT SHOULD BE IN THEIR PREFERENCE TO PROPOSE THEIR OWN CUTS
4:53:44PM INSTEAD OF OURS.
4:53:46PM THEN WE CAN LOOK TO THE PUBLIC, HAVE TO CUT THIS, MAYBE WE
4:53:51PM DON'T HAVE 30 OFFICERS OR WHATEVER IT IS.
4:53:53PM MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE MORE FIRE.
4:53:55PM SOMEBODY MENTIONED THE CHARTER.
4:54:00PM A COUPLE OF US WERE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
4:54:04PM I THINK I PROBABLY COULD GET AN ATTORNEY TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT
4:54:09PM IT IS COVERED UNDER THE CHARTER BUT I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE
4:54:11PM TO DO THAT.
4:54:12PM WHAT HAPPENS IS WE NEED TO ALL WORK TOGETHER MORE.
4:54:15PM ALSO, THE LAST THING IS THAT OUR COMMITTEE HAS ASKED OVER
4:54:19PM AND OVER AGAIN FOR MORE INFORMATION, SAME THING AS COUNCIL
4:54:22PM MEMBER HURTAK.
4:54:24PM AND THE ADMINISTRATION HAS GIVEN MORE INFORMATION THAN MAYBE
4:54:27PM THEY HAVE IN PREVIOUS YEARS, BUT WE NEED A LOT MORE

4:54:30PM INFORMATION BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL GO DOWN INTO IT.
4:54:34PM I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE SAID THIS IN THIS ROOM, BUT I'M NOT
4:54:37PM SUPPORTING ANY RATE INCREASE WHATSOEVER.
4:54:39PM ZERO.
4:54:40PM I SAID THIS TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO.
4:54:42PM REMEMBER I SAID PUBLICLY THE ADMINISTRATION, I WANTED A ROLL
4:54:45PM BACK.
4:54:46PM ADMINISTRATION PROPOSES ANY KIND OF RATE INCREASE I'LL BE
4:54:49PM OPPOSED TO IT.
4:54:49PM I'M NOT MAKING SAUSAGE AND I THINK IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY
4:54:53PM OF THE ADMINISTRATION TO LOOK AT WHERE TO CUT.
4:54:55PM THEY PICKED THE FIVE THINGS, I SPLIT UP POLICE AND FIRE.
4:54:58PM SO FIVE THINGS THAT WE WANTED AND THEN THEY PRESENTED TO US
4:55:01PM AS IF IT'S NOT OUR PRIORITIES.
4:55:03PM THESE ARE OUR PRIORITIES THAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC.
4:55:05PM IF WE SAY WE DON'T WANT THIS MILL, WE'RE NOT SAYING WE DON'T
4:55:10PM SUPPORT THE POLICE OR WE DON'T DO ANYTHING ELSE.
4:55:12PM BY THE WAY, A YEAR AGO, I VOTED AGAINST THE BUDGET BECAUSE
4:55:16PM THE ADMINISTRATION FOR FOUR YEARS REFUSED TO RAISE THE ROAD
4:55:21PM REPAIR BUDGET.
4:55:22PM THERE ARE POTHOLES ALL OVER SOUTH TAMPA.
4:55:25PM AND THE CAMPAIGN, THERE WAS A SIX-PAGE WITH POP-OUTS, MAILER
4:55:30PM AGAINST ME THAT TALKED ABOUT HOW I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
4:55:33PM POTHOLES IN SOUTH TAMPA.
4:55:35PM MY POINT IS, NONE OF THIS HAS ANY KIND OF POLITICAL IMPACT.

4:55:38PM NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO MAKE UP
4:55:41PM SOMETHING SLANDEROUS ABOUT YOU ANYWAY.
4:55:43PM WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT, WE'RE GETTING HUNDREDS OF
4:55:47PM E-MAILS.
4:55:47PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE IMPACT ON INDIVIDUALS, INDIVIDUALS OF
4:55:51PM ALL INCOME LEVELS ARE SUFFERING RIGHT NOW.
4:55:53PM WE MOST IMPORTANTLY NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE
4:55:56PM ECONOMY.
4:55:56PM THIS COULD BE THE TIPPING POINT FOR THE ECONOMY.
4:55:58PM THANK YOU ALL.
4:55:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:55:59PM I HAVE MOTIONS.
4:56:02PM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO INVITE --
4:56:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M SORRY.
4:56:09PM I HAVEN'T RECOGNIZED YOU YET.
4:56:11PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
4:56:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
4:56:14PM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO INVITE CRAIG NEWMAN FROM THE
4:56:18PM CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD TO PRESENT JUST FOR A FEW
4:56:21PM MINUTES AS REQUESTED ON SEPTEMBER 5th AT THE BEGINNING OF
4:56:26PM THE BUDGET HEARING.
4:56:29PM THE WORK AND THE EFFORT THAT THE BUDGET BOARD, THE ADVISORY
4:56:32PM BOARD PUTS IN, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS BUDGET, AND I WANT TO
4:56:36PM HEAR FROM THEM.
4:56:36PM IF WE COULD HAVE HIM AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA RIGHT AT THE

4:56:40PM BEGINNING.
4:56:41PM HE TOLD ME HE NEEDS FIVE OR TEN MINUTES.
4:56:44PM THEIR VOICE NEEDS TO BE HEARD.
4:56:46PM SEPTEMBER 5, NIGHT OF THE BUDGET.
4:56:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOULD THAT BE BEFORE OR AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT?
4:56:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THE BEGINNING.
4:56:53PM I WANT TO OPEN THE MEETING AND BRING HIM UP.
4:56:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THEN DO PUBLIC.
4:57:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE THE AGENDA READY FOR THAT DAY?
4:57:02PM I'D LIKE HIM AT THE BEGINNING.
4:57:06PM I'LL COORDINATE WITH HIM.
4:57:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
4:57:11PM SECOND FROM -- WAS THERE DISCUSSION?
4:57:14PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
4:57:17PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
4:57:18PM OPPOSED?
4:57:19PM THE AYES HAVE IT.
4:57:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
4:57:22PM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION, IF I CAN GET HIM
4:57:25PM HERE, WE HAVE A NIGHT MEETING SEPTEMBER 14 AT 5:01 P.M.
4:57:29PM I DOUBT HE WILL BE ABLE TO COME, BUT IF WE CAN GET HIM HERE
4:57:33PM A FEW MINUTES BEFORE, PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO MAYOR DICK
4:57:36PM GRECO.
4:57:37PM IT IS HIS 90th BIRTHDAY ON THAT DATE.
4:57:40PM HE COULD BE OUT OF TOWN, WHATEVER.

4:57:41PM IF HE CAN'T MAKE IT THAT DAY, I'LL GIVE IT TO OF HIM
4:57:45PM OFF-SITE.
4:57:46PM FOUR-TIME MAYOR, 90 YEARS OLD.
4:57:49PM LIKE TO PRESENT HIM WITH SOMETHING FROM COUNCIL.
4:57:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COUNCILMAN
4:57:52PM MANISCALCO.
4:57:53PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CHARLIE MIRANDA.
4:57:57PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
4:57:58PM OPPOSED?
4:57:58PM AYES HAVE IT.
4:58:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
4:58:02PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
4:58:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
4:58:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON,
4:58:07PM SILENTLY.
4:58:08PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, ALL IN FAVOR?
4:58:10PM AYE.
4:58:11PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
4:58:11PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
4:58:12PM
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