TAMPA CITY COUNCIL BUDGET SPECIAL CALL MEETING
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 5, 2023, 5:01 P.M.
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05:07:11PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
05:07:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY
05:07:17PM COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER, SEPTEMBER 5, 2023.
05:07:19PM MAY I HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
05:07:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:07:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
05:07:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
05:07:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
05:07:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
05:07:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:07:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:07:31PM >> ALL ATTENDEES ARE IN LISTEN-ONLY MODE.
05:07:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, YOU ARE GOOD.
05:07:39PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:07:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC
05:07:44PM HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE TENTATIVE FY 2024 MILLAGE
05:07:50PM RATE.
05:07:50PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED FROM
05:07:54PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:07:55PM A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THAT.
05:07:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:08:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:08:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:08:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:08:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
05:08:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
05:08:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:08:13PM >>CLERK: MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
05:08:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO, WHAT IS THE NEXT ITEM?
05:08:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
05:08:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS IS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING FOR
05:08:32PM FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET.
05:08:34PM PROPOSED MILLAGE 7.20 6 MILLS, 24.18 MORE THAN THE ROLL BACK
05:08:44PM OF 5.7804 MILLS.
05:08:47PM PROPERTY TAX FUNDS ARE USED TO SUPPORT THE OPERATING FUND
05:08:50PM BUDGET AND THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FUND FOR THE
05:08:53PM CITY.
05:08:54PM GENERAL FUND INCLUDE SUCH DEPARTMENTS AS FIRE RESCUE,
05:08:58PM POLICE, HUMAN RESOURCES, PARKS AND RECREATION.
05:09:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:09:02PM YES, SIR, MR. MASSEY.
05:09:09PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
05:09:11PM TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE ORDER OF TONIGHT'S
05:09:15PM HEARING AND YOUR ROLE IN TONIGHT'S HEARING.
05:09:17PM SO, FIRST OF ALL, OBVIOUSLY, AND THIS IS WHAT YOU DO AT
05:09:20PM EVERY SINGLE PUBLIC HEARING.
05:09:21PM YOUR FIRST ROLE IS TO LISTEN.
05:09:23PM YOU WILL BE HEARING FROM DR. CRAIG NEWMAN, WHO WILL GIVE A
05:09:28PM PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET FINANCE
05:09:32PM COMMITTEE AND MAY BE FOLLOWED BY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE
05:09:34PM COMMITTEE WHO MAY BE SPEAKING ON THEIR OWN OR ON BEHALF OF THE
05:09:37PM COMMITTEE.
05:09:38PM THEY NEED TO CLARIFY THAT WHEN THEY SPEAK TO YOU ALL.
05:09:40PM STAFF WILL BE MAKING A PRESENTATION OF THE PROPOSED MILLAGE
05:09:43PM RATE.
05:09:45PM AND THEN LASTLY, AND PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANTLY, YOU WILL
05:09:48PM BE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC.
05:09:50PM THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS AND
05:09:54PM MAKE COMMENTS REGARDING THIS.
05:09:55PM THE WAY THAT TONIGHT'S MEETING IS ORGANIZED.
05:09:58PM THERE WILL BE TWO ROUNDS FOR COUNCIL TO ASK QUESTIONS AND
05:10:02PM COMMENTS GENERALLY.
05:10:03PM THE FIRST IS AFTER THE STAFF PRESENTATION OF THE BUDGET AND
05:10:06PM THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE, AND THEN AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT,
05:10:10PM THERE WILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO ASK
05:10:13PM QUESTIONS AND MAKE COMMENTS.
05:10:14PM SO PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL TO ASK QUESTIONS BUT
05:10:17PM YOU NEED TO ASK WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU FEEL IS NECESSARY TO
05:10:20PM MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT.
05:10:21PM AND THEN THAT LEADS TO THE LAST PORTION OF WHAT YOU ARE
05:10:24PM BEING ASKED TO DO TONIGHT WHICH IS TO TAKE ACTION.
05:10:27PM THE ACTIONS THAT YOU ARE BEING ASKED, FIRST OF ALL, IS TO
05:10:30PM ADOPT A TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE.
05:10:33PM NOW THE MAYOR HAS PROPOSED A ONE MILL INCREASE AND PLACED IN
05:10:38PM THE TRIM NOTICES THAT WENT TO ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE
05:10:41PM CITY OF TAMPA, BUT IT IS YOUR ROLE AND YOUR DUTY UNDER BOTH
05:10:44PM STATE LAW AND THE CHARTER TO ACTUALLY ADOPT THE MILLAGE
05:10:47PM RATE.
05:10:47PM THAT IS COUNCIL'S CALL.
05:10:49PM IF COUNCIL DECIDES THAT THERE SHOULD BE NO MILLAGE INCREASE,
05:10:53PM THAT IS YOUR CALL.
05:10:54PM IF YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE LESS THAN ONE MILL, AGAIN, THAT IS
05:10:58PM YOUR CALL.
05:10:58PM DEPENDING ON WHAT ACTION YOU WANT TO TAKE RELATIVE TO THE
05:11:02PM MILLAGE RATE INCREASE, WE MAY NEED TO TAKE A BREAK AT A
05:11:06PM CERTAIN POINT IN TIME TO RECALCULATE HOW MUCH THE PROPOSED
05:11:10PM MILLAGE RATE YOU ALL ARE WILLING TO APPROVE EXCEEDS THE
05:11:14PM ROLL-BACK RATE AND NEEDS TO BE PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED AND A
05:11:17PM MOTION FORMALLY ADOPTED BY COUNCIL MOVING THAT FORWARD AS
05:11:20PM THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE.
05:11:22PM ONCE YOU ALL TAKE ACTION AND ADOPT A TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE
05:11:27PM TONIGHT, THAT WILL BE ADVERTISED FOR THE SECOND PUBLIC
05:11:32PM HEARING ON THE BUDGET.
05:11:33PM THE MAXIMUM MILLAGE RATE ADOPTED BY THIS COUNCIL.
05:11:36PM SO ONCE YOU ALL TAKE ACTION AND ADOPT A TENTATIVE MILLAGE
05:11:40PM RATE, THAT SETS THE CAP.
05:11:41PM THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU WANT TO FURTHER LOWER THE
05:11:44PM MILLAGE RATE, YOU CAN DO THAT BUT YOU CAN NOT INCREASE IT
05:11:47PM OVER THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE THAT YOU ADOPT TONIGHT.
05:11:50PM THE SECOND THING YOU WILL BE ASKED TO DO IS TAKE FIRST
05:11:53PM READING ON A PROPOSED ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE FY '24 BUDGET
05:11:58PM AND MAY HAVE TO BE ADJUSTMENTS MADE TO THE BUDGET DEPENDING
05:12:01PM ON WHAT YOU DO WITH THE MILLAGE RATE.
05:12:04PM OUR RECOMMENDATION -- STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE LOOK
05:12:06PM AT THE PROGRAM -- THE PROGRAM AREAS THAT YOU FEEL OUGHT TO
05:12:09PM IT BE CUT.
05:12:11PM IF YOU ALL WANT TO REDUCE THE MILLAGE RATE, AND THEN STAFF
05:12:14PM CAN COME BACK WITH MORE DETAIL AT THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
05:12:17PM AGAIN, YOU WILL HAVE A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WHERE YOU CAN
05:12:20PM MAKE FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO THE BUDGET AND FURTHER LOWER THE
05:12:23PM MILLAGE RATE.
05:12:24PM THE ONE THING YOU CAN'T DO AT A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING IS
05:12:26PM INCREASE THE MILLAGE RATE.
05:12:28PM I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT YOU WILL HAVE
05:12:32PM AT THIS TIME, BUT OTHERWISE.
05:12:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:12:36PM WE HOLD MOTIONS UNTIL THE END AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:12:39PM BUT I'M HERE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT THE MILLAGE INCREASE
05:12:43PM COMPLETELY.
05:12:43PM [APPLAUSE]
05:12:44PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
05:12:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND
05:12:49PM WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE ELSE.
05:12:51PM I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
05:12:52PM AT THIS POINT -- IT IS NOT A MOTION.
05:12:55PM NOT A MOTION.
05:12:56PM WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:12:58PM DR. CRAIG NEWMAN, YOU ARE HERE FROM THE CITIZENS BUDGET
05:13:02PM BOARD.
05:13:02PM YES, SIR.
05:13:03PM CHIEF.
05:13:06PM YOU WANT THE STAFF FIRST?
05:13:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM STAFF FIRST
05:13:10PM BECAUSE I THINK THEN WE ARE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC.
05:13:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND GET A REBUTTAL AFTER.
05:13:17PM DR. NEWMAN, IS THAT ALL RIGHT THAT THE
05:13:22PM STAFF GOES FIRST AND THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS CAN SPEAK.
05:13:25PM >> JUST FOR THE RECORD, I HOPE THAT THE CHAIRMAN AND MR.
05:13:28PM MASSEY WILL TALK ABOUT THE MILLAGE RATE TO CLARIFY WHAT THE
05:13:31PM MILLAGE RATE IS FOR THE PUBLIC PRESENTLY.
05:13:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SILENCE YOUR PHONES, PLEASE.
05:13:46PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MILLAGE RATE IS 1/1000 OF A PARTICULAR PIECE OF
05:13:53PM PROPERTY AND THE BALANCE OF THE TAX RATE FOR THE CITY OF
05:13:56PM TAMPA.
05:13:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, THE MILLAGE RATE IS 6.2076.
05:14:02PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: CORRECT, THE CURRENT MILLAGE RATE.
05:14:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:14:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: MORRIS -- MR. MASSEY.
05:14:09PM TWO OTHER QUICK QUESTIONS.
05:14:10PM ON THE ROLL-BACK RATE, I WAS GIVEN -- SOMEBODY WAS GIVEN BY
05:14:15PM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER 5.9 BUT SAYS 5.8041.
05:14:21PM THE CORRECT ROLL-BACK RATE?
05:14:24PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IT IS, THEY ADJUST IT BASED ON PERSONAL
05:14:27PM INCOME LEVELS AND A CALCULATION THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF
05:14:29PM REVENUE COMES UP WITH THE ROLL-BACK RATE NOT WHAT THE PRIOR
05:14:34PM MILLAGE RATE AND ADJUSTED FOR VARIOUS FACTORS.
05:14:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE WENT BACK TO THE ROLL-BACK RATE
05:14:42PM TONIGHT OR KEPT THE MILLAGE AT THE CURRENT RATE, DO WE HAVE
05:14:45PM TO EDIT THE BUDGET TONIGHT OR DO IT IN THE NEXT MEETING OR
05:14:49PM HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO DO THAT.
05:14:51PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE WOULD NEED TO DO SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE
05:14:54PM BUDGET IF YOU LOWER THE MILLAGE RATE TONIGHT.
05:14:56PM WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT WE DO IT AT A MORE GENERAL LEVEL
05:14:59PM TONIGHT AND HAVE A MORE DETAILED CONVERSATION AT THE SECOND
05:15:02PM PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET.
05:15:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
05:15:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THIS TIME AND FLIP THE ORDER OF
05:15:08PM BUSINESS AND TAKE THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD AFTER.
05:15:11PM CHIEF BENNETT, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN OPENING OR
05:15:16PM MR. ROGERO, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THE
05:15:19PM PRESENTATION AFTER.
05:15:20PM YES, SIR.
05:15:20PM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL AND TAMPA
05:15:26PM COMMUNITY MEMBERS, MY NAME IS JOHN BENNETT.
05:15:28PM I AM YOUR CHIEF OF STAFF FOR THE CITY.
05:15:30PM AND I WILL BE BRIEF.
05:15:32PM TONIGHT, AS WE HAVE DONE FAITHFULLY OVER THE LAST FOUR
05:15:35PM BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS, WE STAND UNITED AND READY IN
05:15:38PM TRANSPARENCY AND TRUTH TO SUBSTANTIVELY ASSIST COUNCIL WITH
05:15:42PM DECISION SUPPORT THROUGH RESPONSIVE FACTS AND FIGURES
05:15:45PM ASSOCIATED WITH OUR CITY'S THRIVING LEVEL OF SERVICE
05:15:49PM STANDARD THAT IS SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT AND HERE TO WORK
05:15:52PM WITH YOU TONIGHT ON THAT NOW.
05:15:53PM IN THE BEAUTY OF OUR DEMOCRACIES TWO HIGHEST PILLARS OF
05:15:58PM VOTING AND FREE SPEECH, MAYOR CASTOR WOULD LIKE TO THANK
05:16:02PM COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY FOR THEIR ROBUST ENGAGEMENT SINCE
05:16:05PM THE RECOMMENDATION ON AUGUST 3 TO SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC,
05:16:08PM PERSONNEL, AND, OF COURSE, COUNCIL AS OUR LEGISLATIVE
05:16:12PM POLICYMAKERS.
05:16:13PM ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES TO BE GRATEFUL THAT WE ARE UNITED
05:16:16PM IN SEEKING TO CLOSE OVERDUE GAPS AND MANAGE GROWTH IN
05:16:19PM PRESIDENT CORE SERVICE OF PUBLIC SAFETY, POLICE, FIRE
05:16:23PM RESCUE, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, HAVING SAFER ROADS, MORE
05:16:25PM ROBUST PARKS AND RECREATION AND THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF
05:16:28PM SERVICE FOR HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS AND THOSE NEEDS
05:16:32PM ASSOCIATED.
05:16:32PM THIS ONE MILLAGE PROPOSAL OF IDENTIFIED CORE SERVICE NEEDS
05:16:35PM HAVE BEEN CONSTRUCTED FROM THE BOTTOM UP AFTER CLIMBING OUT
05:16:38PM OF COVID AND THE CITY'S EXPONENTIAL GROWTH CHALLENGES FOR
05:16:42PM ALL OF US TO TRY TO LOOK FORWARD.
05:16:44PM SINCE THE AUGUST 3 PRESENTATION, THERE WILL BE A MYRIAD OF
05:16:48PM COUNTER RESOURCE PROPOSALS AND SEE IF THEY ARE SHOVEL READY
05:16:51PM AS OUR RECOMMENDATION TO GARNER CONTROL OF THE CITY'S CORE
05:16:55PM INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICE NEEDS.
05:16:56PM STAFF'S PRIMARY GOAL TONIGHT -- AND WE HAVE SOME HERE AND
05:17:00PM SOME VIRTUALLY READY IN CASE YOU NEED THEM TO BE
05:17:05PM LECTERN-READY TO PROVIDE ANY DETAILS TO SOLIDIFY THE RIGHT
05:17:09PM LEVELS OF SERVICE IN THESE CORE AREAS, MYSELF, CHIEF ROGERO
05:17:14PM AND OTHER LEAD STAFF MEMBERS HAVE DEVELOPED SUPPORT MAY
05:17:17PM TREES CEASE AROUND THE RESOURCES TO ASSIST YOU AS NEEDED.
05:17:23PM THE FY '24 IS BACKED BY YEARS OF VALUE AND EXPECTATIONS
05:17:30PM AROUND THESE CORE SERVICES.
05:17:31PM SO WE SUPPORT THAT WITH OUR BUDGET AND OUR FINANCE AUDITS
05:17:34PM AND ASSOCIATED AWARDS OVER THOSE.
05:17:37PM OUR PROCUREMENT EFFORTS AND AWARDS AROUND THOSE, OUR CREDIT
05:17:40PM RATINGS, HEALTHY FUND BALANCE.
05:17:42PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL, IN SUPPORT OF OUR HAZARD ENVIRONMENT FOR
05:17:48PM RESILIENCY.
05:17:48PM FOCUS ON RATES, RESERVES AND RATES IN OUR UTILITY.
05:17:52PM 77 AUDITS ON FILE FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS TRYING TO SUPPORT
05:17:56PM CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT AND EVEN MORE ON THE WEB SITE FROM
05:17:59PM THE YEARS PRIOR.
05:18:00PM A FAIR MARKET ECONOMICAL APPROACH TO OUR WORKFORCE IN
05:18:05PM RECRUITMENT, PAY BENEFITS AND TOTAL COMPENSATION.
05:18:08PM FINALLY THIS BUDGET IN FISCAL YEAR '24 IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
05:18:12PM APPLY SPECIFIC RESOURCES TO THE CITY'S FUTURE OF
05:18:15PM SUSTAINABILITY AND WHERE HE SILL YENS, LIT RALEIGH PAVING
05:18:19PM AND CONNECTING A WAY TO THE PREVENTIVE APPROACH TO A
05:18:22PM THRIVING QUALITY OF LIFE AND APPROPRIATE LEVELS OF HEALTH,
05:18:25PM SAFETY AND WELFARE CITY WIDE.
05:18:27PM I WILL TURN THE LECTERN OVER TO CHIEF ROGERO.
05:18:31PM BUT I WANT TO THANK CITY COUNCIL AND SPECIFICALLY THE
05:18:35PM CITIZENS ADVISORY BUDGET COUNCIL AND COMMITTEE AND
05:18:37PM SPECIFICALLY THE PUBLIC FOR THEIR FEEDBACK OVER THE LAST 45
05:18:40PM DAYS.
05:18:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
05:18:43PM MR. ROGERO, IF YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION.
05:18:47PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
05:18:49PM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
05:18:52PM MY PRESENTATION IS EVEN MORE BRIEF.
05:18:54PM IF I CAN HAVE THE ELMO UP, PLEASE.
05:18:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE WE GO.
05:19:02PM IF WE CAN BRING IT UP ON THE BIG SCREEN.
05:19:04PM YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
05:19:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
05:19:08PM AS YOU HEARD US SAY, THIS BUDGET WAS ABOUT MOVING THE NEEDLE
05:19:12PM MAKING SIGNIFICANT CHANGES FOR THINGS WE HAD TO DO FOR SOME
05:19:16PM TIME AND FOR WHATEVER REASON WE DID NOT DO THAT.
05:19:19PM GIVE US A CHANCE TO START CATCHING UP -- AND JUST START
05:19:23PM CATCHING UP BECAUSE, AGAIN, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU DOES
05:19:25PM NOT FULFILL ALL OF THE CITY'S NEEDS AS WE SAID.
05:19:28PM IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE EXCELLING AS THE CHIEF SAID, AS YOU
05:19:33PM HEARD THE CHIEF SAID, WHAT IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF FUNDING?
05:19:36PM WELL, WE BUILT IT AS YOU HEARD HIM SAY FROM THE GROUND UP
05:19:39PM AND ARRIVED AT ONE MILL AND THE $45 MILLION FOR THE GENERAL
05:19:42PM FUND THAT YOU SEE ON SCREEN.
05:19:44PM COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC WILL REMEMBER THAT WE PROVIDED YOU A
05:19:49PM NUMBER OF SCENARIOS AROUND THOSE NEEDED AREAS THAT I BELIEVE
05:19:54PM WE HAVE UNIVERSAL CONSENSUS ON, TRANSPORTATION, PARKS AND
05:19:58PM RECREATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, HOUSING AND VEHICLE REPLACEMENT
05:20:02PM ACROSS ALL THOSE SPECTRUMS.
05:20:04PM AND IF -- IF YOU WILL RECALL -- AND I HAVE THE SLIDES BUT I
05:20:09PM WON'T SHARE THEM NOW-- WE ENTERTAINED SCENARIOS WHERE WE CAN
05:20:13PM TAKE THAT $45 MILLIONISH A YEAR AND LEVERAGE THAT.
05:20:17PM LEVERAGE IT AGAINST GRANT FUNDING.
05:20:19PM LEVERAGE IT AGAINST DEBT SERVICE.
05:20:21PM TOTALING OVER HALF A BILLION DOLLARS.
05:20:25PM WE ARE PREPARED TONIGHT AS YOU HEARD THE CHIEF OF STAFF SAY
05:20:33PM TO ENTERTAIN ANY NUMBER OF OTHER SCENARIOS THAT CITY COUNCIL
05:20:39PM HAS -- MOVE IT UP THERE SO YOU CAN SEE IT.
05:20:41PM AND BASICALLY TWO APPROACHES, COUNCIL, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE NOT
05:20:45PM TO GO WITH THE RECOMMENDED MILLAGE INCREASE.
05:20:48PM DETERMINE THE MILLAGE RATE.
05:20:50PM COUNCIL CAN ENTERTAIN DIFFERENT MILLAGE RATES AND BACK INTO
05:20:53PM THE FUNDING BASED ON THAT MILLAGE RATE -- BASE ON THAT
05:20:56PM MILLAGE RATE AND HOW COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO APPORTION IT OR
05:21:00PM WE CAN COME AT IT FROM THE REVERSE.
05:21:02PM COUNCIL CAN PROVIDE AN OVERALL FUNDING AMOUNT OR FUNDING
05:21:06PM AMOUNTS FOR EACH OF THOSE NEEDED AREAS, AND WE CAN BACK
05:21:10PM BACK INTO A MILLAGE.
05:21:14PM WE ARE PREPARED TO DO THAT TONIGHT AS YOU HEARD THE CHIEF
05:21:18PM DEPUTY ATTORNEY SAY, WE WILL ASK FOR A BRIEF RECESS WHEN WE
05:21:21PM DO THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
05:21:24PM AND WHAT WE WANT MOST OF ALL IS TO PROVIDE AN ACCURATE, WELL
05:21:28PM THOUGHT OUT AND WELL-RESEARCHED INFORMATION FOR YOU.
05:21:32PM AND HAVING SAID THAT, THAT IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
05:21:40PM WE HAVE ANY NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WE CAN SHARE
05:21:43PM WITH YOU DEPENDENT ON WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AND
05:21:47PM HOW LONG YOU WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT.
05:21:48PM BUT I WILL LEAVE THE LECTERN NOW FOR THE CITIZENS ADVISORY
05:21:52PM COMMITTEE.
05:21:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
05:21:54PM AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO PLANNING COMMISSION UP MR.
05:21:57PM CRAIG NEWMAN, THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET
05:22:00PM ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND WITH HIM ARE SEVERAL OTHER MEMBERS
05:22:02PM WHO WILL SPEAK ON THEIR OWN CAPACITY, IF THEY WISH, AFTER
05:22:06PM DR. NEWMAN.
05:22:07PM YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
05:22:08PM >>CRAIG NEWMAN: GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
05:22:10PM GOOD TO BE HERE.
05:22:11PM I WILL MAKE THIS SHORT AND SWEET AS WELL.
05:22:14PM ON JUNE 22, I PRESENTED TO CITY COUNCIL AS CHAIRMAN OF THE
05:22:18PM CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE, DETAILING OUR LIST OF
05:22:21PM PRIORITIES WE FELT NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED WITHIN OUR CITY.
05:22:25PM TO INCLUDE TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING, PUBLIC SAFETY, PARKS
05:22:29PM AND REC.
05:22:30PM WE CAME UP WITH THIS IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR.
05:22:33PM THIS IS WHAT WE WERE GOING TO FOCUS ON FOR THIS YEAR.
05:22:36PM JUST SO HAPPENS THE ADMINISTRATION CAME UP WITH THE SAME
05:22:42PM THING SO WE ARE IN CONGRUENT HERE -- WE ARE CONGRUENT.
05:22:46PM IN AUGUST 3, THE MAYOR PRESENTED THE PROPOSAL OF $1.9
05:22:51PM BILLION BUDGET FOR 2024.
05:22:53PM SINCE THAT TIME, THE COMMITTEE HAS MET TWICE FOCUSING ON
05:22:56PM THIS BUDGET.
05:22:57PM WE DISCUSSED THE NEED FOR THE CITY, AND ONCE AGAIN THE NEEDS
05:23:03PM AND HOW THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE ONE
05:23:09PM MILLAGE INCREASE.
05:23:09PM THERE IS NEVER A GOOD TIME TO RAISE TAXES; HOWEVER, NEARLY
05:23:14PM 1.5 PEOPLE LIVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE CONSIDERED IN
05:23:19PM POVERTY.
05:23:19PM THAT IS 20% OF OUR POPULATION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:23:23PM ON TOP OF THAT, RESIDENTS ARE DEALING WITH SKYROCKETING
05:23:27PM RENTS, HIGH GAS, AND FOOD PRICING, SOARING INSURANCE
05:23:32PM PREMIUMS THREE TIMES THE NATIONAL AVERAGE GIVING US ONE OF
05:23:36PM THE HIGHEST INFLATION RATES IN THE COUNTRY.
05:23:38PM THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD FELT THAT CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE
05:23:42PM OVERBURDENED, ESPECIALLY AFTER A YEAR REMOVED FROM THE WORST
05:23:47PM PANDEMIC IN THE LAST 100 YEARS.
05:23:48PM OUR COMMITTEE MEETING ON AUGUST 23 AFTER LENGTHY
05:23:53PM DISCUSSIONS, THERE WAS A MOTION BROUGHT FORTH TO VOTE DOWN
05:23:58PM THE MILLAGE RATE -- MILLAGE INCREASE AND PASSED ON A 6-1
05:24:02PM MAJORITY.
05:24:02PM I DO WISH TO POINT SOMETHING OUT, BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN ASKED
05:24:06PM MANY TIMES.
05:24:08PM DID OUR COMMITTEE -- WERE WE AWARE THAT THERE WAS GOING TO
05:24:11PM BE A MILLAGE INCREASE UNTIL THE MAYOR PRESENTED THE CITY
05:24:15PM BUDGET ON AUGUST 23?
05:24:17PM WE WERE NOT AWARE OF IT.
05:24:18PM WE WERE TOLD ABOUT THIS AFTER -- AFTER --
05:24:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AUGUST 3.
05:24:27PM >>CRAIG NEWMAN: WHAT DID I SAY, APRIL?
05:24:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AUGUST 3.
05:24:31PM >>CRAIG NEWMAN: I AM DYSLEXIC.
05:24:33PM BEING IN CHARGE OF NUMBERS SCREWS EVERYTHING UP.
05:24:36PM MY APOLOGIES.
05:24:37PM SO WE WEREN'T AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON AT THAT TIME.
05:24:40PM WE HAD DISCUSSIONS IN OUR LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH
05:24:44PM DENNIS ROGERO.
05:24:46PM THIS COMPLETES MY PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION.
05:24:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR THE RECORD, YOUR NAME EVEN THOUGH I
05:24:51PM SAID IT.
05:24:52PM >>CRAIG NEWMAN: SORRY.
05:24:53PM CRAIG NEWMAN.
05:24:55PM TAMPA FLORIDA.
05:24:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE GOOD.
05:24:59PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:25:01PM >>CRAIG NEWMAN: YOU KNOW WHERE TO FIND ME.
05:25:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY MEMBERS OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET
05:25:06PM ADVISORY COMMITTEE PRESENT THAT WISH TO SPEAK AT THE TIME.
05:25:09PM BECAUSE YOU SERVE ON THE COMMUNITY WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN
05:25:14PM OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK NOW AND MANY HOURS OF VOLUNTEER WORK IN
05:25:17PM ANALYZING AND LOOKING AT THAT BUDGET.
05:25:19PM YES, MA'AM.
05:25:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY
05:25:24PM COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
05:25:24PM JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE PUBLIC BEING AWARE.
05:25:27PM DR. NEWMAN SPOKE UPON THE AUTHORITY OF THE COMMITTEE BY
05:25:31PM MOTION AND VOTE THEY APPOINTED HIM TO REPRESENT THE
05:25:33PM COMMITTEE AND ANYBODY WHO SPEAKS AT THIS POINT IN TIME ARE
05:25:36PM SPEAKING AS -- ANOTHER THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE
05:25:42PM SPEAKING AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AND DO NOT REPRESENT
05:25:46PM THE COMMITTEE AS WHOLE.
05:25:48PM >> THIS IS TRUE, SANDY DIEGO SANCHEZ.
05:25:52PM AND I'M HERE AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, BUT I WAS ON THE
05:25:58PM COMMITTEE.
05:25:58PM I ATTEND THE MEETINGS.
05:26:00PM TWO OR THREE THIS PAST MONTH.
05:26:01PM ALL OF THIS HAS BECOME CLEAR THAT THE BUDGET IS VERY, VERY
05:26:05PM COMPLICATED.
05:26:06PM THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS IN THE BUDGET THAT WE DON'T
05:26:09PM UNDERSTAND.
05:26:09PM WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY SOMETHING WAS APPROPRIATED HERE OR
05:26:14PM SOMEWHERE ELSE.
05:26:14PM BUT THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC NEEDS ANSWERS TOO.
05:26:17PM AND IT IS NOT HAPPENING.
05:26:20PM AND THIS IS NOT A REFLECTION ON THIS PARTICULAR
05:26:24PM ADMINISTRATION.
05:26:24PM BUT I DO THINK THAT WE ARE STILL USING THE SAME FORM --
05:26:30PM FORMAT THAT WE USED FOR YEARS AND YEARS OF MAKING UP
05:26:33PM BUDGETS.
05:26:33PM THAT WE STILL ARE PUTTING MONEY DIFFERENT PLACES.
05:26:36PM THEY ARE NOT ALWAYS SHOWN WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING.
05:26:39PM A LOT OF IT IS IN "OTHER" WHICH IS VERY QUESTIONABLE.
05:26:43PM SO WHAT I AM ASKING YOU -- PERSONALLY I AM ASKING YOU NOT TO
05:26:47PM VOTE FOR THIS MILLAGE INCREASE.
05:26:49PM BUT ALONG WITH THAT, ONCE YOU HAVE DECIDED ON THE BUDGET AND
05:26:52PM IT IS OVER, I ASK THAT YOU ASK FOR AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT TO
05:26:57PM FIND OUT WHERE ALL THESE QUESTIONS ARE AND GET THEM ANSWERED
05:27:02PM BEFORE THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR COMES BEFORE YOU.
05:27:04PM SO THAT WE CAN FIND OUT IF -- IF WE ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT
05:27:08PM IS ANTIQUATED AND SYSTEM THAT SHOULDN'T BE USED ANYMORE.
05:27:13PM AND WORST OF ALL MOST OF ALL TRANSPARENT WITH THE PUBLIC.
05:27:19PM YOU ARE OUR EYES AND EARS AND WE ARE ASKING YOU NOT TO VOTE
05:27:23PM FOR THIS MILLAGE INCREASE.
05:27:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:27:26PM ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE THAT WISH TO SPEAK AT
05:27:28PM THIS TIME?
05:27:30PM ANYBODY ELSE?
05:27:31PM I DON'T SEE ANYBODY REGISTERED.
05:27:35PM BUT STILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TOP SPEAK DURING GENERAL
05:27:37PM PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:27:38PM ALL RIGHT.
05:27:39PM SO HAVING CONCLUDED THAT, MR. ROGERO, BEFORE I GO TO INITIAL
05:27:46PM QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO PRESENT
05:27:50PM AT THIS TIME, SIR?
05:27:56PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR, AT THIS TIME?
05:27:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, COUNCIL HAD MADE THREE MOTIONS.
05:28:00PM THEY ASKED US TO COME BACK ON TONIGHT IN CONCERT WITH THE
05:28:04PM FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
05:28:05PM SO I AM ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE THAT
05:28:08PM RIGHT NOW.
05:28:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:28:09PM BEFORE I TAKE IT TO COUNCILMEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS, I MADE A
05:28:14PM QUICK STATEMENT A FEW MINUTES AGO ABOUT WHY I AM READY TO
05:28:17PM MAKE A MOTION TO LATER ON WHEN THE TIME COMES TO REJECT ANY
05:28:21PM MILLAGE INCREASE.
05:28:22PM THE QUESTION HAS COME UP, WHEN IS THE RIGHT TIME TO RAISE
05:28:25PM TAXES?
05:28:25PM I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 2015, I CAN TELL YOU OTHER
05:28:29PM OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE RAISED GUYS OR WHATEVER IT WAS --
05:28:32PM GUYS, WE WILL CALL THEM "GUYS" WHERE IT MADE SENSE.
05:28:36PM 2016, THE STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
05:28:40PM AND THAT CAME UP CONTROVERSIAL, BUT IT WAS TO ADDRESS THE
05:28:44PM FLOODING IN THE CITY.
05:28:45PM BUT IN 2016, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CRAZY INSURANCE RATES.
05:28:49PM WE DIDN'T HAVE HIGH INFLATION.
05:28:51PM WE DIDN'T HAVE HIGH INSURANCE RATES.
05:28:53PM WE DIDN'T HAVE THE HOUSING CRISIS WE ARE IN.
05:28:57PM THAT PASSED.
05:28:57PM 2018, PROPOSED MILLAGE INCREASE.
05:29:00PM THAT PASSED.
05:29:01PM WE WERE HERE UNTIL 12:00, 1, 2:00 IN THE MORNING.
05:29:06PM THE THING IS IN 2023 IN LOOKING AT THIS, ON TOP OF THE
05:29:10PM E-MAILS AND THE CALLS AND THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD
05:29:14PM AND THE NEWSPAPER EDITORIAL THAT CAME TODAY IN PRESIDENT
05:29:19PM DIGITAL FORMAT ONLINE, PEOPLE IN THE PAST SUPPORTED RAISING
05:29:22PM GUYS OR RAISING COSTS TO ADDRESS OUR NEEDS LIKE THE CAPITAL
05:29:26PM IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FOR STORMWATER, THOSE SAME PEOPLE ARE
05:29:29PM AGAINST IT
05:29:29PM I JUST DON'T SEE THE SUPPORT.
05:29:32PM IF THIS WAS ON THE BALLOT I THINK IT WILL FAIL 95% NO TO 5%.
05:29:38PM AND I THINK THAT IS GENEROUS.
05:29:39PM NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO DO THIS.
05:29:41PM AGAIN, I AM JUST STATING MY OPINION.
05:29:44PM I LOOKED AT THIS BUDGET SINCE THE MAYOR PRESENTED IT.
05:29:49PM PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING.
05:29:50PM PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING.
05:29:52PM AND THAT IS AN EVEN DEEPER CONVERSATION.
05:29:56PM THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPACTFUL AND THE TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT IS
05:30:00PM EVEN MORE IMPACTFUL AND FURTHER HURT RESIDENTS IN THE CITY
05:30:06PM OF TAMPA.
05:30:06PM COUNCILMEMBERS, DO YOU WANT TO CHIME?
05:30:10PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:30:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
05:30:13PM I SPOKEN OUT ON THE MILLAGE INCREASE.
05:30:15PM I HAD 400, 500 FOLKS WRITE ME ON IT.
05:30:18PM WHEN I GOT AN E-MAIL A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO ASKING ME TO
05:30:22PM SUPPORT IT.
05:30:22PM I REMEMBER TELLING MY AIDE, WELL, THERE IS ONE.
05:30:25PM THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE.
05:30:26PM THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE.
05:30:27PM I HAVE BEEN VERY STRONG ON THIS.
05:30:29PM AND I AM VERY CONSISTENT ON THIS.
05:30:31PM IN MY POSITION IS ONE THAT I WILL NOT BACK DOWN FROM AT ALL.
05:30:37PM I FIRST WANTED TO TELL THE GOOD FOLKS AT THE BUDGET ADVISORY
05:30:43PM BOARD, I REALLY APPRECIATE Y'ALL.
05:30:45PM SANDY, BEING HERE, YOU ARE A WONDERFUL ASSET TO OUR CITY.
05:30:49PM APPRECIATE YOU.
05:30:50PM AND DR. NEWMAN, A GOOD DUDE.
05:30:53PM I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
05:30:54PM THAT IS A LOT OF WORK.
05:30:55PM UNLIKE US, YOU DON'T GET FANCY HIGH SALARIES LIKE CITY
05:31:00PM COUNCIL DOES -- I AM JOKING -- BUT AGAIN, I REALLY, REALLY
05:31:03PM APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.
05:31:04PM WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MILLAGE, 16% MILLAGE INCREASE IN A TIME
05:31:09PM OF 7.3% INFLATION.
05:31:10PM DOUBLE PROPERTY INSURANCE PREMIUMS OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
05:31:14PM SKYROCKETING CAR INSURANCE.
05:31:15PM HIGH RATES HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:31:17PM I -- I -- I JUST THINK IT IS SPEAKING ANOTHER LANGUAGE IN
05:31:21PM TERMS OF THE REALITY OF THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA MOST
05:31:24PM IMPORTANTLY, WHAT TROUBLES ME THE MOST, WHAT PAINS ME THE
05:31:26PM MOST ABOUT THIS 16% MILLAGE INCREASE IS THAT IT POISONS THE
05:31:30PM WELL ON HAVING A DISCUSSION ON ADDITIONAL REVENUE FOR NEEDS
05:31:35PM THAT WE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE HERE AT CITY COUNCIL
05:31:39PM HAVE SPOKEN OUT ABOUT FROM TIME AND TIME AGAIN MORE REVENUE.
05:31:46PM POISONS THE WELL.
05:31:47PM WHEN EVERYBODY HEARS ABOUT A TAX INCREASE.
05:31:49PM I HAVE MY POSITION.
05:31:51PM I WON'T BACK DOWN.
05:31:52PM UP DON'T DO THAT.
05:31:53PM BUT WHENEVER FOLKS HEAR ABOUT THAT, THEY SAY THE TAX
05:31:56PM INCREASE.
05:31:57PM THE TAX INCREASE.
05:31:59PM STARTING UP AT 16% AND HAVING FIDELITY AND SAYING WHY HE
05:32:03PM TO EVERYTHING.
05:32:04PM SAYING YES TO EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY ASKED FOR AND SAYING
05:32:07PM NO TO NOTHING AND GIVING US A MILLAGE TAX RATE PUT US ON PAR
05:32:10PM WITH MIAMI, FLORIDA, RIGHT?
05:32:13PM THAT POISONS THE WELL HERE.
05:32:14PM WITH -- WITH WHAT I SAW AT THE -- THE GOOD FOLKS OVER AT THE
05:32:20PM BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.
05:32:21PM YOU KNOW, THEY CONSIDER -- CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, EITHER
05:32:24PM ZERO OR NOTHING.
05:32:25PM I AM NOT IN BETWEEN BY THE WAY.
05:32:27PM I THINK THE COSTS ARE WAY TOO HIGH HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
05:32:31PM TO GO AND QUOTE, UNQUOTE, SPLIT THE BABY ON SOMETHING LIKE
05:32:35PM THAT.
05:32:35PM TO ALL OF YOU ALL WHO HAVE WRITTEN ME.
05:32:37PM YOU ALL GOTTEN THE SAME RESPONSE WHICH I DO SUPPORT A
05:32:41PM VERY MINOR ADJUSTMENT FOR POLICE AND FIRE AND HAVING A
05:32:45PM DISCUSSION ON BUDGET CUTS WHICH WE CAN.
05:32:48PM BECAUSE LORD KNOWS, THERE IS A LOT TO DO HERE IN THE CITY OF
05:32:51PM TAMPA TO LOOK AT OTHER CORE CRITICAL NEEDS THAT CAN HELP
05:32:54PM WITH REVENUE, INCLUDING WITH HOUSING, RIGHT.
05:32:56PM INCLUDING WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
05:32:58PM FOR EXAMPLE, I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE BUDGET.
05:33:01PM AND I WAS GOING OVER SALARIES.
05:33:03PM AND SEEING ALL THE FOLKS THAT MAKE OVER $150,000 NOW ON THE
05:33:07PM CITY PAYROLL.
05:33:08PM THERE IS A LOT.
05:33:09PM I DID A NUMBER.
05:33:10PM I AM TERRIBLE AT MATH, AND I HATE MATH, AND IT HATES ME, BUT I
05:33:14PM DID A NUMBER OF ALL OF THEM PUT TOGETHER, AND IT IS A WHOLE
05:33:18PM LOT.
05:33:18PM IF WE CUT THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT -- NOT PEOPLE'S PAY,
05:33:22PM THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR NONUNIONIZED WORKERS NOT
05:33:26PM UNDER A CONTRACT, WE COULD BE SAVING A LOT OF MONEY.
05:33:28PM START AT PLACES LIKE THAT SO WE CAN TAKE CARE OF OUR CORE
05:33:31PM NEEDS.
05:33:31PM BUT TO TAKE OFF ADDITIONAL REVENUE OFF THE TABLE, RIGHT.
05:33:35PM WHEN WE KNOW -- TAKE A LOOK AT FIRE STATIONS.
05:33:38PM TAKE A LOOK AT FIRE STATIONS.
05:33:40PM THIS COUNCIL HAS BEEN BEGGING THIS ADMINISTRATION FOR THREE
05:33:43PM YEARS CAN TO HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
05:33:48PM WONDERFUL INDIVIDUALS IN CHARGE OF POLICE AND FIRE.
05:33:50PM I SEE CHIEF BERCAW HERE AND CHIEF TRIPP HERE WHO ARE
05:33:54PM WONDERFUL INDIVIDUALS DOING A GREAT JOB, ETC., RIGHT, BUT WE
05:33:58PM NEED THAT FOR PLANNING PURPOSES.
05:33:59PM WE ALL KNOW WE NEED MORE FIRE STATIONS IN AREAS LIKE FOWLER,
05:34:04PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA, ETC.
05:34:05PM WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE MONEY FROM?
05:34:08PM WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET THE MONEY FROM?
05:34:10PM AGAIN, THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO HAVE A DIALOGUE ON.
05:34:12PM AGAIN, THE MILLAGE RATE, LET'S -- I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE
05:34:16PM CHAIRMAN, LET'S VOTE IT DOWN.
05:34:18PM I OPPOSE IT AND ANYTHING NEARING THAT.
05:34:20PM BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A REASONABLE DISCUSSION IN THE CONTEXT
05:34:24PM OF OUR CORE CRITICAL NEEDS AND WHAT THIS INFLATION-PLAGUED
05:34:28PM CITY CAN AFFORD.
05:34:28PM THANK YOU.
05:34:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
05:34:30PM BEFORE I GO TO THE NEXT PERSON, COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID AT
05:34:33PM LEAST 100 MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN READY TO SPEAK.
05:34:37PM IF THIS ISSUE WASN'T SO IMPORTANT.
05:34:38PM IF THIS ISSUE DID NOT AFFECT PEOPLE AS IT WILL AFFECT PEOPLE
05:34:43PM AND THE MAGNITUDE THAT WE DID, WE WOULDN'T HAVE SO MUCH
05:34:47PM PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:34:47PM HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS BECAUSE THE PEOPLE IN THIS
05:34:50PM COMMUNITY UNDERSTAND HOW IMPACTFUL NEGATIVELY THIS INCREASE
05:34:55PM WILL BE ON PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY SCRAMBLING AND ALREADY
05:34:57PM STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
05:34:59PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:35:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, FIRST, I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR AND
05:35:06PM HER STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER.
05:35:08PM THE MAYOR HAS HIRED A GREAT TEAM OF SENIOR LEADERSHIP AND ARE IN
05:35:12PM EARNEST TRYING TO HELP THE CITY AND GOT A LOT OF GREAT
05:35:15PM PEOPLE WORKING UNDER THEM AS WELL TO TRY TO FURTHER THE --
05:35:18PM THE CITY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY.
05:35:20PM THE MAYOR ALSO LISTENED -- AND HER STAFF LISTENED TO OUR
05:35:26PM PRIORITIES.
05:35:26PM I CALL THEM FIRE PRIORITY.
05:35:28PM I SPLIT POLICE AND FIRE.
05:35:29PM I THINK THOSE ARE DIFFERENT AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT EACH OF
05:35:32PM THEM SEPARATELY.
05:35:33PM IF WE LOOK AT THE FIVE THINGS, AS MR. NEWMAN SAID, OUR
05:35:37PM COMMITTEE MORE THAN A YEAR AGO RECOMMENDED THAT WE FOCUS ON
05:35:40PM THESE FIVE THINGS.
05:35:41PM WE KNOW WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR AT LEAST
05:35:43PM THE FOUR YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE THOSE ARE THE FIVE THINGS
05:35:45PM THEY WANT.
05:35:46PM PEOPLE WANT THEIR POTHOLES FILLED.
05:35:48PM THEY WANT TO FEEL SAFE.
05:35:49PM THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE SOMEBODY WILL RESCUE THEM IF THEY
05:35:53PM HAVE A HEART ATTACK.
05:35:53PM PEOPLE NEED HOUSING.
05:35:55PM 50,000 PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE HOUSING RIGHT NOW AND THAT IS
05:35:59PM JUST THE LIST THAT IS OUT THERE.
05:36:00PM AND PEOPLE HERE, SOME OF THEIR KIDS AND GRANDKIDS OF PEOPLE
05:36:04PM WHO HAVE NICE HOUSES BUT KIDS YOUNG EARLY IN THEIR CAREER
05:36:08PM CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE ANYMORE.
05:36:10PM PEOPLE PLEADING WITH US, SENIORS SPENT THEIR WHOLE LIFE IN
05:36:13PM TAMPA AND CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE ALREADY AND THEY ARE AT
05:36:16PM RISK OF LEAVING.
05:36:17PM WE KNOW THAT MODERN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
05:36:20PM THE OLD DAYS SUBSIDIZE COMPANIES WITH LOW PAYING JOBS OR
05:36:25PM SUBSIDIZE REAL ESTATE.
05:36:26PM MODERN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT PEOPLE.
05:36:28PM CREATING A ENVIRONMENT WHERE PEOPLE CAN THRIVE.
05:36:31PM CREATING A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE.
05:36:33PM AND WE NEED TO FOCUS MORE ON THAT.
05:36:35PM TOO MUCH MONEY WASTED OVER THE PAST 12 YEARS ON FRIVOLOUS
05:36:39PM PROJECTS LIKE $12 MILLION BOATHOUSES THAT WE DIDN'T NEED.
05:36:42PM IF THE ROAD REPAIR BUDGET IS $5 MILLION A YEAR, THINK OF HOW
05:36:47PM MANY ROADS WE COULD HAVE PAVED INSTEAD OF BUYING A BOATHOUSE
05:36:50PM THAT WE DIDN'T NEED.
05:36:52PM THANK YOU FOR THE MAYOR FOR PICKING THE FIVE SAME THINGS
05:36:55PM THAT WE HAVE.
05:36:55PM THING I WANT TO GET ACROSS, WHATEVER WE END UP ON THIS, FIVE
05:37:00PM THINGS ARE THERE AND PLUS OTHER THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH ALL
05:37:03PM THE TIME.
05:37:03PM SOME FOLKS REPRESENTING THE MAYOR SAID IF WE DON'T VOTE FOR
05:37:06PM THE TAX, THEN WE ARE AGAINST ONE OF THOSE FIVE THINGS.
05:37:10PM NONE OF US ARE AGAINST THOSE FIVE THINGS AND WE HAVE BEEN
05:37:14PM ADVOCATE.
05:37:14PM NOT THAT WE ARE AGAINST ANY ONE OF THOSE THINGS, WE THINK IF
05:37:17PM WE VOTE AGAINST IT, WE THINK WE CAN FIND MONEY FOR THOSE
05:37:20PM THINGS SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE BUDGET.
05:37:22PM I THINK WE NEED TO IN EARNEST MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
05:37:24PM BUT I THINK THAT -- I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE ANY
05:37:29PM COMPROMISE ON THE ONE MILL INCREASE.
05:37:30PM IF WE ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR AN INCREASE, IF SOMEBODY IS IN
05:37:33PM FAVOR OF IT -- I AM NOT -- IF THEY ARE FAVOR OF IT, VOTE FOR
05:37:37PM ONE MILL.
05:37:37PM THE COMPROMISE IS TO LEAVE IT AT 6.2, BECAUSE THE ROLLBACK
05:37:44PM RATE IS 5.8.
05:37:46PM UNLESS THE PERCENTAGES CHANGE, IF WE STICK WITH 6.2.
05:37:50PM PEOPLE ASK, WHERE IS THE MONEY COMING FROM ALL THE NEW
05:37:54PM DEVELOPMENT AND NEW HOUSES.
05:37:55PM THAT IS THE 26 OR SO MILLION CRA MONEY BEING GENERATED BY
05:38:01PM NOT GOING TO THE ROLL -BACK RATE.
05:38:04PM IF WE DON'T GO BACK TO THE ROLL-BACK RATE IT IS A 12%
05:38:08PM INCREASE.
05:38:09PM STAYING AT 6.2 MILLAGE RATE THAT WE ALREADY ARE AT IS A
05:38:13PM COMPROMISE BECAUSE INCLUDES A 12% INCREASE.
05:38:15PM FOLKS LOOKING AT THEIR BILL THINK IT WILL GO BACK TO A ZERO
05:38:19PM INCREASE.
05:38:19PM IF WE GO TO 6.2, IT IS STILL AN INCREASE.
05:38:23PM IF I GET A CHANCE, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO GO BACK TO 5.8
05:38:26PM WHICH WHAT I PROPOSED MONTHS AGO TO GO BACK TO THE ROLL-BACK
05:38:31PM RATE.
05:38:31PM FOLKS SAYING -- CLAIMING THAT CERTAIN THINGS ARE IN THE
05:38:35PM BUDGET THAT ARE NOT.
05:38:35PM I HAVE PEOPLE WHO SAID MY BASEBALL PARK WAS PROMISED TO ME
05:38:39PM IT WAS IN THE BUDGET INCREASE, NOT JUST IN THE BUDGET OR IT
05:38:42PM WILL BE TAKEN OUT IF CITY COUNCIL DON'T VOTE A CERTAIN WAY.
05:38:47PM WE WON'T SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IF ANY COUNCIL DOESN'T
05:38:52PM VOTE FOR IT.
05:38:52PM THE OTHER DAY THE DEPUTY POLICE CHIEF WENT ON RADIO --
05:38:57PM BISHOP PATTY SHOW SAID TEN DEDICATED POLICE OFFICERS -- NEW
05:39:01PM -- TEN DEDICATED NEW POLICE OFFICERS IN EAST TAMPA.
05:39:05PM WE KNOW FROM THE CFO, THERE ARE ZERO NEW POLICE OFFICERS.
05:39:09PM 30 HAVE BEEN PROMISED AND THE CFO SAID THEY WILL ONLY COME
05:39:13PM IN IF WE GET GRANT MONEY SO NOT INCLUDED IN THE INCREASE.
05:39:17PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT IS NOT.
05:39:20PM PEOPLE HAVE MADE PROMISES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE.
05:39:23PM IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE IN THE PUBLIC THAT YOU WANT US TO
05:39:26PM ADDRESS.
05:39:26PM COME TO US AND WE CAN MAKE SURE WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES
05:39:30PM AND FIND THINGS WE CAN CUT.
05:39:31PM I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF AREAS THAT WE CAN CUT.
05:39:34PM THE LAST THING IF YOU GO TO TAMPASCORECARD.COM, THE ECONOMY
05:39:39PM IN TAMPA DURING THE GREATEST ECONOMIC BOON IN HISTORY HAVE
05:39:44PM NOT DONE WELL.
05:39:44PM MIDDLE CLASS SHRUNK AND PEOPLE IN POVERTY INCREASED.
05:39:49PM IF WE DO THIS WILL DESTROY OUR ECONOMY AND NOT RECOVER WITH
05:39:54PM THE DOWNTURN.
05:39:54PM WE NEED TO EN GUISE IN AND MOVE OUT.
05:39:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU BROUGHT CRA, I MADE A MOTION TO LOOK
05:40:04PM AT DOWNTOWN CRA MONEY TO BUY THE POLICE STATION ACROSS THE
05:40:08PM STREET.
05:40:08PM LIKE $30 MILLION.
05:40:10PM FREE UP THE MONEY SITTING IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA FOR THE NEXT
05:40:13PM SEVERAL YEARS, PUT IT IN THE GENERAL FUND AND PUT AFFORDABLE
05:40:16PM HOUSING THERE.
05:40:17PM PUT A FIRE STATION ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
05:40:19PM WHATEVER WE CAN DO WITHOUT HAVING TO RAISE TAXES .WE HAVE TO
05:40:22PM GET CREATIVE.
05:40:23PM WE HAVE TO DIG DEEPER BUT CAN'T JUST SAY RAISE THE MILLAGE.
05:40:27PM THAT IS THE EASY WAY OUT.
05:40:28PM THE SMART THING TO ANALYZE THE CRA AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC
05:40:34PM YOU SUPPORTED IT.
05:40:35PM IT WAS A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.
05:40:37PM WHO IS NEXT.
05:40:38PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:40:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:40:40PM I APPRECIATE EVERYONE BEING HERE.
05:40:42PM I HAVE NO QUARRELS WITH ANYONE.
05:40:43PM MAYBE YOU HAVE IT WITH ME.
05:40:45PM BUT I TAKE IT AS IT COMES.
05:40:47PM I LOOK BACK AND I REALIZE THAT, IN FACT, I SAW MAYOR FREEMAN
05:40:52PM AND I WENT AND TALKED TO HER AND I SAID I REMEMBER WHEN I
05:40:55PM STARTED WITH YOU HERE IN 1974.
05:40:57PM NOT I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE '74.
05:40:59PM I LEFT IN '79 AND CAME BACK TO '95.
05:41:04PM I SAID I AM IN THE SAME CHAIR IN 1974 AND YOU WERE RIGHT TO
05:41:07PM MY SIDE AND LEE DUNCAN AND COPPIN AND ALL THE WAY AROUND.
05:41:12PM AND THE ISSUES HAVEN'T CHANGED MUCH.
05:41:15PM BACK THEN, THE BUDGET WAS WHAT, $ 00 MILLION AND THAT TOOK
05:41:20PM CARE OF EVERYTHING.
05:41:20PM HOWEVER, LET'S GO TO THE MEAT OF THE PROBLEM.
05:41:23PM WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND YOU SEE WHAT THE POLICE AND
05:41:26PM FIRE IS AND WHAT IT TAKES TO OPERATE BOTH OF THEM AND WE ARE
05:41:30PM GLAD THAT WE ARE DOING THAT.
05:41:31PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NEEDS COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND,
05:41:34PM IT WAS ALWAYS $50 MILLION SHORT FROM WHAT THE POLICE AND
05:41:38PM FIRE NEEDED EVERY YEAR AND EVERY BUDGET, '22 '23, '24.
05:41:47PM NOW GOING TO THE '24-'25 BUDGET.
05:41:51PM WHAT I AM SAYING IT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT WENT FROM
05:41:54PM $50 MILLION TWO YEARS AGO AND I MADE '22 -- THE '22-'23
05:42:05PM BUDGET $25 MILLION.
05:42:08PM THIS YEAR I AM LOOKING FOR $25 MILLION THAT WE HAVE TO
05:42:10PM SUBSIDIZE -- THE GENERAL FUND SUBSIDIZING THE FIRE AND
05:42:14PM POLICE.
05:42:15PM TO MY DISBELIEF, NOTHING IN THERE.
05:42:17PM ZERO, NADA.
05:42:19PM THAT MEANS ENOUGH MONEY COLLECTED IN ADMINISTRATION OR
05:42:21PM WHOEVER IS HERE CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
05:42:24PM THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WE HAD TO PUT FROM THE GENERAL FUND
05:42:27PM INTO THE FIRE AND POLICE.
05:42:29PM THERE WAS, I BELIEVE, IF I RECALL, $25 MILLION EXTRA.
05:42:33PM SO WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT ALL THESE THINGS ARE NECESSARY.
05:42:38PM AND THEY ALL HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
05:42:41PM THIS YEAR, WE HAVE NOTHING GOING INTO POLICE AND FIRE
05:42:45PM GENERAL FUND.
05:42:46PM MAYBE I AM WRONG, BUT THAT'S WHAT I SEE.
05:42:48PM THAT IS WHAT I SAW.
05:42:49PM BUT WHAT I AM SAYING IS, WHAT HAPPENS IN PRIOR YEARS?
05:42:53PM I AM NOT LOOKING AT SOMETHING JUST FOR THIS YEAR.
05:42:56PM I AM LOOKING FOR YEARS TO COME.
05:42:57PM WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN NEXT YEAR IN AT THAT CITY THAT
05:43:03PM IS HAVING 150 PEOPLE ON THE AVERAGE MOVE INTO THE CITY.
05:43:08PM WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN?
05:43:10PM DO YOU THINK TAXES WILL GO DOWN?
05:43:12PM DO YOU THINK THE BUILDING IS GOING TO STOP?
05:43:15PM I DON'T THINK SO.
05:43:17PM THE BUILDING IN TAMPA, FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE HAVE BEEN ONE
05:43:21PM AND TWO IN MANY CATEGORIES.
05:43:22PM EVEN HOTEL OCCUPANCY, NUMBER ONE IN THE COUNTRY AT 89%.
05:43:26PM SO WHAT I AM LOOKING AT IS A MYRIAD OF THINGS THAT WE CAN
05:43:30PM DO.
05:43:30PM IT IS INCUMBENT THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT NECESSITIES ARE IN
05:43:35PM THE FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENT.
05:43:37PM WITHOUT FIRE AND POLICE AND NECESSARY WATER AND OTHER AREAS
05:43:40PM THAT WE NEED, YOU CAN'T HAVE A CITY LIKE TAMPA.
05:43:43PM NOWHERE.
05:43:44PM THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS FANTASTIC BOND RATING.
05:43:47PM THE WATER DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS ONLY ONE OF TWO
05:43:52PM IN THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT HAS, WHAT?
05:43:55PM A N AAA RATING.
05:43:57PM ONE OF ONLY 13 IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY THAT HAS A AAA RAID
05:44:02PM RATING BECAUSE OF YOU FOLKS.
05:44:03PM YOU ARE THE HARD WORKERS THAT GIVE US WHAT IS RIGHT TO DO
05:44:06PM AND MANAGE.
05:44:07PM I HAVE NO QUARRELS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.
05:44:08PM I DIFFER.
05:44:10PM AND THE DIFFERENCE THEY ARE LOOKING AT NOW, BECAUSE NEXT
05:44:13PM YEAR -- HOLD ON TO YOUR POCKET BOOK, I AM LOOKING FOR
05:44:18PM ANOTHER 12% INCREASE IN VALUATION OF HOMES, BUILDINGS AND
05:44:22PM PROPERTIES.
05:44:22PM SO I AM NOT ONE TO SAY THAT I AM GOING TO FALL SHORT.
05:44:26PM YOU NEED ROADS TO BE PAVED, YES, YOU HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME.
05:44:30PM WE HAVE SOMETHING TO START WITH, WHATEVER MONEY IS THERE
05:44:33PM THAT WE DIDN'T PUT IN THE FIRE AND POLICE TO MAKE THEIR
05:44:36PM NECESSITY WHOLE.
05:44:37PM AND NEXT YEAR, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME THING.
05:44:40PM YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER INCREASE IN VALUATION AND ANOTHER
05:44:44PM BUMP.
05:44:44PM THE NEXT THING IS, WHEN WE PASS THE TAX ON WASTEWATER THAT
05:44:52PM -- WITH YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOU BUILT THE HOUSE, CONCRETE, SO
05:44:56PM MUCH CONCRETE, AND YOU SEE YOUR TAX STRUCTURE ON THE FORM
05:45:00PM LAST YEAR AND NEW YEAR.
05:45:02PM THEN AT THE END YOU GET THE TRIM NOTICE -- THE TRIM NOTICE
05:45:06PM IS NOT PUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE COLLECT FOR
05:45:09PM STORMWATER COLLECTION WHICH IS A NECESSITY THAT IS NEEDED.
05:45:11PM WHAT HAS HAPPENED, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE I AM WRONG, I DON'T
05:45:17PM KNOW OF ANYONE THAT HAS CHECKED ON -- [BEEPING]
05:45:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO, GO.
05:45:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T WANT TO BE BETTER THAN ANY
05:45:29PM CITIZEN HERE.
05:45:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
05:45:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT TAX NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT PEOPLE WHO
05:45:34PM EXPANDED THEIR YARDS.
05:45:35PM HOW MANY PEOPLE -- I KNOW WHERE I LIVE WHERE YOU SEE FROM
05:45:38PM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE ALL THE WAY DOWN -- AND I MEAN ALL OF
05:45:43PM IT, NOT ONE PIECE MISSING THAT THEY PUT ALL CONCRETE AND ALL
05:45:46PM PAVERS.
05:45:46PM RAISE YOUR HAND.
05:45:47PM BUT ANYWAY, WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IN ESSENCE, THIS TAX --
05:45:55PM SEE, THIS TAX WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IN 2026, THE CIT TAX
05:46:01PM ENDS.
05:46:01PM AND IF THAT EXTENSION IS NOT PASSED, AND I AM POUNDING THE
05:46:05PM TABLE TO WAKE MYSELF UP, WE ARE GOING TO REALLY BE IN
05:46:10PM TROUBLE.
05:46:10PM NOT THIS ONE, BUT THAT ONE.
05:46:12PM BECAUSE THAT ONE THERE IS THE ONE THAT MAKES A LOT OF DINERO
05:46:18PM ON PENNIES.
05:46:18PM AND 25% TO 40% DEPENDING ON THE SEASON, SOMEBODY ELSE IS
05:46:24PM PAYING FOR IT BECAUSE THE VISITORS WE HAVE GOT HERE.
05:46:26PM IN FACT THE AQUARIUM HAD 975,000 PEOPLE CAME LAST YEAR.
05:46:31PM THE ZOO, 1.25 MILLION.
05:46:33PM THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL BE COMING TO OUR DESTINATION
05:46:37PM BECAUSE THE KIDS NOW ARE NOT LEAVING, THEY ARE STAYING HERE.
05:46:40PM A REASON FOR THAT.
05:46:41PM NOT BECAUSE I AM ELECTED.
05:46:43PM IT IS BECAUSE THE CITY HAS CHANGED TO GIVE THEM WHAT THEY
05:46:45PM WANT.
05:46:45PM SO WE ARE LOOKING AT A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO, AND
05:46:49PM I JUST FEEL THAT, IN MY OPINION, NOT A NEED TO RAISE THE
05:46:52PM MILLAGE.
05:46:53PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
05:46:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
05:46:56PM YES, MA'AM.
05:46:57PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:46:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
05:47:01PM I DON'T WANT TO BE -- I HAVE A LOT TO SAY.
05:47:04PM I GOT RECEIPTS.
05:47:05PM I GOT THINGS TO SHOW.
05:47:06PM BUT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC RIGHT NOW,
05:47:11PM AND I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO THAT.
05:47:13PM BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T ASKED ANY QUESTIONS.
05:47:15PM IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS, THAT IS ONE THING.
05:47:17PM BUT I AM FOLLOWING WAIT.
05:47:19PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE FIRST.
05:47:20PM PAUSE EVERYBODY HAD THEIR CHANCE TO TALK UNLESS EVERYBODY
05:47:23PM ELSE WANTS TO TALK.
05:47:24PM I WANT TO LISTEN TO THE PUBLIC.
05:47:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOUNDS GOOD.
05:47:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LISTEN TO WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY AFTERWARDS
05:47:30PM BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE.
05:47:32PM OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TWO MORE COUNCILMEMBERS TO SPEAK, BUT I
05:47:35PM REALLY -- I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
05:47:38PM I WANT TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
05:47:39PM AND THEN I WANT TO TALK.
05:47:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU GOT IT.
05:47:42PM YES, MA'AM, YES, SIR.
05:47:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM A POLITICIAN WITH A MIC IN FRONT OF
05:47:48PM ME, OF COURSE I WANT TO TALK.
05:47:50PM YOU KNOW, IT'S -- I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU HEAR THE SENTIMENT
05:47:55PM UP HERE, AND I AM NOT DELUSIONAL OF THE DIRECTION THIS IS
05:47:59PM GOING, BUT SIMILAR TO WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID WHEN THEY
05:48:02PM CREATED THE BUDGET FROM THE BOTTOM UP, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED AT
05:48:04PM IT THE SAME WAY.
05:48:05PM I RAN -- YOU KNOW, I AM ONE OF THE NEWBIES UP HERE.
05:48:09PM AND I RAN ON A PLATFORM -- ONE OF MY PLATFORMS WAS IMPROVING
05:48:14PM THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:48:15PM WHEN I PULL OUT OF MY STREET, I HIT POTHOLES.
05:48:18PM LACK OF CURBS.
05:48:20PM MANY AREAS OF THE CITY THAT KIDS WALK TO SCHOOL WITHOUT
05:48:23PM SIDEWALKS.
05:48:23PM AND I HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY DISCOVERED THE GREAT NEED IN OUR
05:48:29PM PUBLIC SAFETY SECTOR.
05:48:31PM SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOKED AT -- WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION'S
05:48:35PM PROPOSAL ON THIS, I FELT THAT IT WAS -- AGAIN, FROM THE
05:48:38PM GROUND UP, LOOKING TO FULFILL THESE NEEDS THAT I ALSO HAD
05:48:42PM IDENTIFIED WHICH I THINK EVERYONE UP HERE SHARES THAT WE ALL
05:48:44PM LOOK AROUND THE CITY AND WE SEE WE HAVE THESE GREAT NEEDS
05:48:47PM AND HOW TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.
05:48:48PM CLEARLY, THE ADMINISTRATION'S CALL WAS THE MILLAGE INCREASE,
05:48:55PM WHICH, AGAIN, MY -- MY PROMISE TO FOLKS WHEN I RAN, I WAS
05:48:59PM GOING TO PAVE THE DAMN SIDEWALKS AND PAVE THE STREETS AND
05:49:02PM PUT IN THE NEW SIDEWALKS.
05:49:03PM THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
05:49:07PM CLEARLY I WILL ASK FOR MY FELLOW COUNCIL FOLKS AS WE GO
05:49:10PM THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND OBVIOUSLY, AGAIN, IF -- I CAN'T
05:49:14PM PREDICT THE FUTURE BUT I THINK I AM GOING TO AND SAY THIS
05:49:17PM MILLAGE INCREASE IS D.O.A. DEAD ON ARRIVAL.
05:49:21PM BUT I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT, I AM GOING TO NEED THE
05:49:25PM HELP OF MY MEMBERS ON COUNCIL TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT WE
05:49:29PM PAVE OUR STREETS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:49:31PM THAT WE BUILD THE SIDEWALKS AROUND OUR SCHOOLS SO THAT OUR
05:49:36PM KIDS ARE NOT BALKING IN UNSAFE CONDITIONS TO GET TO SCHOOLS.
05:49:39PM THAT WE TAKE CARE OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY SECTOR, BECAUSE WE
05:49:43PM HAVE A REAL NEED.
05:49:43PM WE HAVE TO PUT AUTOMATION ON THESE FIRE TRUCKS TO RESPOND TO
05:49:47PM THESE CALLS.
05:49:48PM WE HAVE TO BUILD OUR ALS SYSTEMS, ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT
05:49:51PM SYSTEMS, SO WHEN PEOPLE CALL WITH A WITH A MEDICAL EMERGENCY
05:49:55PM THEY GET THE RESPONSE IN THE TIME THEY EXPECT TO GET THAT
05:49:58PM RESPONSE.
05:49:58PM WE HAVE FIRE STATIONS THAT ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF
05:50:01PM REFURBISHMENT AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO REFURBISH THOSE.
05:50:05PM VEHICLES WELL OUTSIDE OF THE TIME FRAME THEY NEED TO BE
05:50:08PM REPLACED.
05:50:09PM WE HAVE CRITICAL FIRE EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO ACQUIRE TO
05:50:12PM BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWING NEEDS OF THE CITY OF
05:50:14PM TAMPA.
05:50:14PM I MEAN THESE ARE ALL NEEDS, NOT WANTS.
05:50:17PM AND OUR POLICE FORCE.
05:50:21PM WE HAVE STAFFING NEEDS.
05:50:25PM I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS BROUGHT UP MANY TIMES THE
05:50:28PM LEVEL OF STAFFING OF OUR POLICE FORCE OVER THE YEARS AND WE
05:50:32PM ARE KIND OF AT A LOW POINT.
05:50:33PM WE HAVE A NEED TO INCREASE OUR OFFICER WORK FORCE TO DEEP UP
05:50:40PM WITH THE GROWING TRENDS OF THE CITY.
05:50:41PM I HEAR FREQUENTLY THAT WE LIVE IN A VERY SAFE CITY, BUT THE
05:50:46PM SAFETY -- AND I SAID THIS MANY TIMES ON DIFFERENT TOPICS,
05:50:48PM BUT SAFETY DOESN'T HAPPEN ON ACCIDENT.
05:50:51PM IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS PURPOSEFUL.
05:50:53PM AND THROUGH ACTION OF GOVERNMENT AND ACTION OF PUBLIC
05:50:56PM SERVANTS AND ACTION OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN THAT SERVE THE CITY
05:51:00PM -- THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT MAKE THIS ONE OF THE
05:51:04PM SAFEST MEDIUM, LARGE-SIZED CITIES IN THE COUNTRY.
05:51:08PM IT IS NOT ACCIDENTAL, BECAUSE OF THOSE PURPOSEFUL
05:51:12PM APPLICATIONS TAKEN BY ADMINISTRATIONS BEFORE US, COUNCILS
05:51:17PM BEFORE US AND HOPEFULLY WILL CONTINUE WITH THIS COUNCIL.
05:51:20PM I BELIEVE WITH -- I BELIEVE IT WAS COUNCILMAN VIERA WHO
05:51:23PM IDENTIFIED.
05:51:23PM AND I HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT
05:51:29PM THE SALARY SPREAD.
05:51:30PM JUST LIKE CORPORATE AMERICA, WE SEE A PROBLEM WITH THE
05:51:35PM SALARY SPREAD WHERE THE EXECUTIVES OF THE COMPANY ARE MAKING
05:51:39PM FAR MORE THAN THE ENTRY LEVEL OR THE WORKERS OF THE COMPANY.
05:51:42PM THROUGH PERCENTAGE INCREASES WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THE SAME
05:51:46PM PROBLEM.
05:51:46PM WE HAVE THE SPREAD AND WE HAVE TO TAKE PROOF-POSITIVE STEPS
05:51:50PM AND CORRECTIVE ACTION TO DO THAT AND I SUPPORT WHAT COUNCIL
05:51:53PM VIERA SAID AND TAKING THOSE PROOF POSITIVE STEPS TO ENSURE
05:51:57PM THAT OUR -- THAT WE STAY COMPETITIVE.
05:51:59PM IT IS IMPORTANT TO STAY COMPETITIVE IN A MEANINGFUL WAY BUT
05:52:03PM NOT AT ALL COSTS.
05:52:05PM SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK SERIOUSLY AT THAT.
05:52:07PM I THINK THERE ARE MANY POSITIONS AROUND THE CITY THAT WE CAN
05:52:10PM LOOK AT AND I THINK THE COUNCILWOMAN SITTING TO MY RIGHT HAS
05:52:14PM AN ENTIRE DOSSIER FULL OF SUGGESTIONS ON WHERE WE CAN FIND
05:52:19PM THAT MONEY.
05:52:19PM BUT, AGAIN, THESE ARE NEEDS.
05:52:21PM THEY ARE NOT WANTS.
05:52:23PM SO AS WE GO FURTHER DOWN THIS PROCESS, IF WE REJECT THIS
05:52:29PM MILLAGE INCREASE, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH COUNCIL AND
05:52:32PM ADMINISTRATION TO IDENTIFY THE RESOURCES TO ACCOMPLISH
05:52:35PM EVERYTHING THAT I JUST LISTED.
05:52:37PM THANK YOU.
05:52:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
05:52:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
05:52:42PM THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING TOPIC FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS.
05:52:47PM AND I AM GOING TO SOUND A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN MY
05:52:50PM FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS UP HERE AND JUST GO IN A DIFFERENT
05:52:54PM DIRECTION ABOUT -- ABOUT SOME REASONING.
05:53:02PM FIRST OF ALL, IT IS DISINGENUOUS TO MAKE STATEMENTS AS IF
05:53:06PM EVERYONE IS SCRAMBLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
05:53:09PM THAT IS NOT TRUE.
05:53:10PM EVERYONE IS NOT SCRAMBLING TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
05:53:13PM EVERY HOMEOWNER IN PARTICULAR.
05:53:16PM YES, THINGS ARE TIGHT.
05:53:17PM AND EVERY TIME A BILL GOES UP WHEN THEY INCREASE THE PRICE
05:53:20PM OF THE SAUSAGE AND THE EGGS IN THE GROCERY STORE, IT IS
05:53:24PM UPSETTING TO ME.
05:53:24PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
05:53:25PM AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT OUR INSURANCE PREMIUMS ARE JUST
05:53:30PM RIDICULOUS.
05:53:31PM INCREDIBLE HOW MUCH INSURANCE HAS GONE UP.
05:53:33PM SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHAT OUR STAFF
05:53:39PM HAS ASKED US FOR AND THE MAYOR HAS ASKED FOR IN BRINGING
05:53:44PM BACK A ONE-POINT INCREASE IN THE MILLAGE, I HAD TO SAY TO
05:53:49PM MYSELF, OKAY, WHAT IS IN THAT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
05:53:52PM HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE WRITTEN ME, WHO HAVE WRITTEN ALL OF US.
05:53:58PM THEY ARE UPSET, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THIS PARTICULAR MILLAGE
05:54:01PM INCREASE IS THAT WE ARE SUPPORTING HOUSING FOR PEOPLE WHO
05:54:05PM DON'T HAVE IT.
05:54:06PM WHO NEED IT.
05:54:08PM IT IS THE DESPERATE NEED.
05:54:09PM AND EVERYONE UP HERE -- EVERYONE UP HERE BEFORE I GOT HERE
05:54:14PM SUPPORTED HOUSING.
05:54:16PM SUPPORTED HOUSING -- ROBIN, DON'T DISTRACT ME -- LET ME KEEP
05:54:22PM TO MY NOTES.
05:54:23PM OKAY, SO -- SO THAT IN AND OF ITSELF $133 MILLION INCREASE.
05:54:29PM IT IS A HUGE AND GENEROUS OFFER, BUT WHO IS GOING TO TACKLE
05:54:33PM HOUSING IF CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT.
05:54:38PM THE BUDGET IS VERY IMPORTANT, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
05:54:41PM FIRE IS IMPORTANT AND POLICE IS IMPORTANT.
05:54:44PM BUT I WILL NOT SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE THE
05:54:46PM GREATEST NEED, AND THAT IS HOUSING.
05:54:48PM IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ADDRESS IT AS A COMMUNITY.
05:54:52PM WE HAVE TO HELP.
05:54:52PM NOT JUST BECAUSE I RECEIVE THAT SUPPORT THROUGH THE MAYOR'S
05:54:56PM CHALLENGE FUND 32 YEARS AGO.
05:54:58PM BUT BECAUSE IT WORKS.
05:54:59PM IT BUILDS GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
05:55:02PM IT IS NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
05:55:03PM PEOPLE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT IT.
05:55:05PM TEACHERS ARE LIVING STACKED ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER.
05:55:09PM PEOPLE WITH COLLEGE DEGREES.
05:55:11PM IT IS ACTUALLY -- FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE TO MAJOR IN
05:55:19PM EDUCATION AND MAKE A GOOD LIVING EXCEPT TO RECEIVE SOME
05:55:23PM WORKFORCE HOUSING SUPPORT TO LIVE A QUALITY OF LIFE.
05:55:25PM SO IT IS DISINGENUOUS.
05:55:27PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PAPER WROTE ABOUT, OH, WE HAVE
05:55:30PM OVER -- OUR EMPLOYEES HAVE INCREASED BY 400%.
05:55:33PM JUST PUTTING A GENERAL NUMBER OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, RAGS
05:55:38PM PEOPLE UP AND THEY SAY, YEAH, THAT'S A LOT.
05:55:41PM THAT'S A LOT.
05:55:42PM YOU HAVE TO DIVE IN, WHY DID THE CITY INCREASE THEIR
05:55:44PM EMPLOYEES BY 400 PEOPLE.
05:55:46PM DIVE INTO IT.
05:55:47PM WHY DID WE -- WE TOOK OVER SOMETHING.
05:55:49PM THE RESPONSIBILITY OF SOMETHING THAT WAS COSTING US A LOT OF
05:55:52PM MONEY, THAT WAS A GOOD DECISION.
05:55:54PM WE HAVE GROWN AS A CITY.
05:55:55PM WE HAVE MORE PARKS.
05:55:57PM WE HAVE MORE NEEDS.
05:55:58PM THAT IS WHY IT HAS GROWN.
05:55:59PM PUTTING A NUMBER OUT THERE AND LETTING PEOPLE HUFF AND PUFF
05:56:03PM ABOUT IT IS ALSO DISINGENUOUS.
05:56:06PM PEOPLE WHO WORK WITH THE CITY, LET'S GO THERE.
05:56:09PM WHO WORK FOR THE CITY THAT MAKE GOOD MONEY.
05:56:11PM GUESS WHAT, THEY DON'T MAKE THE MONEY THAT IS MADE IN
05:56:15PM CORPORATE AMERICA.
05:56:16PM PUBLIC SERVANTS DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY WHEN IT COMES TO
05:56:20PM THAT SAME JOB IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY.
05:56:22PM YOU CAN DO THE RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF.
05:56:25PM I CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME DATA BUT I ONLY HAVE FIVE
05:56:27PM MINUTES.
05:56:28PM IT IS DISINGENUOUS AND SAY LOOK AT OUR SALARIES, THESE
05:56:32PM PEOPLE DON'T DESERVE THAT MONEY.
05:56:34PM THAT IS NOT FAIR.
05:56:35PM WE SPENT $43 MILLION GIVING THAT 9.5% RAISE AND IT DIDN'T GO
05:56:40PM TO THE TOP.
05:56:41PM 3% TO 6% WENT TO THE HIGH-END MANAGEMENT STYLE PEOPLE, BUT
05:56:45PM THAT WENT TO THE REGULAR FOLKS.
05:56:47PM ARE YOU SAYING THE GARBAGEMAN DOESN'T DESERVE IT?
05:56:50PM ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE SECRETARY OR THE ADMINISTRATIVE
05:56:53PM ASSISTANT DESERVE THAT 9.5%.
05:56:57PM $43 MILLION AND THAT IS A LEGACY BILL.
05:57:00PM THOSE FUNDS CONTINUE.
05:57:01PM WE ARE NOT SAY TAKE THE MONEY BACK NEXT YEAR.
05:57:03PM THAT NOT HOW IT HAPPENS.
05:57:05PM THAT IS A CONTINUATION.
05:57:07PM THE THING THAT NO ONE HAS SAID UP HERE THAT THE COST OF
05:57:10PM SERVICES EVEN FOR THE CITY HAS GONE UP.
05:57:12PM THEY ARE JUST NOT CHARGING PEOPLE FOR EGGS.
05:57:15PM THEY ARE CHARGING THE CITY.
05:57:16PM EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY.
05:57:17PM THE PRICE OF THOSE INCREASES WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM.
05:57:20PM IF WE KICK THE CAN DOWN THE CURB, YOU KNOW IT WILL BE LEFT
05:57:25PM FOR THE NEXT MAYOR AND THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL.
05:57:27PM SOMEBODY IS GOING TO HAVE TO ADDRESS OUR NEEDS.
05:57:29PM WE CAN NOT DEFER EVERYTHING.
05:57:31PM AND I AM NOT WILLING TO DEFER HOUSING.
05:57:33PM BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE A HOUSE.
05:57:35PM BUT I DO KNOW THAT US DOING IT TOGETHER WILL SUPPORT A
05:57:40PM POPULATION OF PEOPLE THAT DESERVE.
05:57:42PM THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN HOUSES WHO HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PAY
05:57:46PM $4.
05:57:46PM BECAUSE YOU KNOW -- I WILL ASK MY FRIENDS FOR THEIR TRIM
05:57:50PM NOTICES, $4, $6, $19.
05:57:53PM THESE INCREASES FOR SOMEBODY WHO PROBABLY MAYBE MAKING MORE
05:57:56PM IS THERE.
05:57:57PM AND IT IS A -- IT MAY BE $2,000 FOR SOMEONE, BUT NINE TIMES
05:58:01PM OUT OF TEN, THAT PERSON CAN AFFORD IT.
05:58:03PM I DON'T SEE IT WILL HURT OUR ECONOMY THAT MUCH.
05:58:06PM I REALLY FEEL WE DON'T DO ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, IT WOULD BE
05:58:10PM DISINGENUOUS FOR ANYONE TO COME BACK AND COMPLAIN ABOUT
05:58:14PM HOUSING AND COMPLAIN ABOUT POTHOLES, OF THE THINGS WE
05:58:19PM ACTUALLY NEED AND CAN'T PUT IN THE BUDGET IN EFFECTIVE
05:58:22PM MANNER WHERE WE CAN INCREASE THESE THINGS AND IMPROVE THESE
05:58:25PM AREAS BECAUSE WE HAVE A CURRENT BUDGET OF 1.9% THAT
05:58:29PM EVERYBODY UP HERE VOTED FOR.
05:58:30PM BUT THAT IS BASED ON WHAT WE ARE DOING RIGHT NOW.
05:58:32PM IT IS NOT DOING ANYTHING EXTRA.
05:58:34PM AND IT YOU KNOW WHAT, IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY, WE FIND A WAY
05:58:39PM TO MAKE A WAY OUT OF NO WAY.
05:58:41PM SO THAT HAS HAPPENED WITH MY MOTHER.
05:58:45PM AND I KNOW THIS CAN HAPPEN WITH THIS CITY.
05:58:48PM WE CAN FIND A WAY EVEN IF WE SUPPORT A MILLAGE INCREASE TO
05:58:51PM LET THIS BENEFIT THOSE WHO NEED IT THE MOST.
05:58:53PM THOSE WHO NEED IT THE MOST.
05:58:56PM THAT IS WHO WE WILL BE HELPING WITH THIS MILLAGE INCREASE.
05:59:00PM I AM OPEN TO LISTENING TO EVERY SINGLE ONE BECAUSE I READ
05:59:04PM OVER 1,000 E-MAILS AND I RECEIVED A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND
05:59:08PM LISTENS TO EVERYONE.
05:59:09PM I AM OPEN, EVEN IF IT IS A REDUCTION, BUT WE WILL GET A WIN
05:59:13PM WHEN WE HELP OTHERS.
05:59:14PM AND THAT IS HOMEOWNERS.
05:59:16PM THE HOMEOWNERS THE PEOPLE BEING IMPACTED BY THIS.
05:59:19PM NOT THE ENTIRE CITY.
05:59:20PM AND SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY IS ALL OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
05:59:27PM THANK YOU.
05:59:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:59:29PM YOU MENTIONED THE MAYOR'S CHALLENGE FUND.
05:59:32PM MAYOR SANDY FREEMAN.
05:59:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I SEE HER.
05:59:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAYOR FREEMAN IS HERE.
05:59:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I KNOW SHE IS HERE AND SPENT TIME IN MY
05:59:43PM HOME.
05:59:43PM STAND UP, MAYOR SANDY FREEMAN
05:59:46PM [APPLAUSE]
05:59:49PM JUST --
05:59:50PM [APPLAUSE]
05:59:51PM -- JUST -- JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND STORY BEFORE -- AND THE
05:59:55PM BEGINNING OF MY CAREER AS AN EDUCATOR, THE CITY CHALLENGE
05:59:59PM FUND WHEN TEACHERS WERE MAKING $18,000 A YEAR, I WAS ABLE TO
06:00:05PM GET IN A HOME BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGE FUND.
06:00:07PM A HOME IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
06:00:10PM TAMPA HEIGHTS.
06:00:10PM AND THAT IS NO LONGER POSSIBLE.
06:00:13PM WE HAVE TO SUPPORT PROGRAMS -- I WILL NOT GIVE UP HOUSING.
06:00:18PM AND I AM NOT A POLITICIAN, I AM JUST A TEACHER.
06:00:21PM I WILL NOT SUPPORT ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE HOUSING.
06:00:24PM AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.
06:00:27PM BECAUSE YOU WERE THERE.
06:00:29PM AND YOU KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT WAS FOR ME AND MY DAUGHTER
06:00:32PM WHO IS NOW 33 YEARS OLD AND A COLLEGE GRADUATE.
06:00:35PM SO THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE HELPING.
06:00:37PM EVERY HOMEOWNER WHO IS IN HERE WHO SUPPORTS THE MILLAGE, YOU
06:00:42PM ARE HELPING SOMEONE ELSE JUST A LITTLE BIT.
06:00:44PM WHETHER $4 OR $6 OR $19.
06:00:46PM OR MAYBE EVEN IF IT IS MORE.
06:00:48PM THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE HELPING, THE KID WHO WAS A CUSTODIAN
06:00:53PM THAT WORKED WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA WHO NOW SITS ON CITY
06:00:56PM COUNCIL.
06:00:56PM THAT IS THE TYPE OF PERSON YOU ARE HELPING WHEN YOU REJECT
06:01:00PM SOMETHING THAT IS ONLY COSTING YOU A LITTLE BIT.
06:01:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:01:03PM MAYOR FREEMAN, YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:01:08PM >> YES.
06:01:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE YOU FIRST AND FIVE
06:01:11PM REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS ONLINE AND EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM.
06:01:14PM >> MY NAME IS SANDY FREEMAN.
06:01:16PM I LIVE ON 3435 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, TAMPA I WASN'T PREPARED
06:01:24PM TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
06:01:25PM AND LISTENING TO ALL OF YOU ALL, I HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS TO
06:01:28PM MAKE THAT ARE MORE GENERAL.
06:01:29PM FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO WIPE OUT ALL OF THE NEEDS
06:01:34PM IN THIS CITY.
06:01:35PM WE HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR 150 YEARS.
06:01:38PM THEY ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE MORE NEEDS.
06:01:41PM YOU HAVE TO WIGGLE AWAY AT IT.
06:01:43PM AND ABOUT THE TIME YOU THINK YOU HAVE, THEN YOU START OFF
06:01:46PM OVER AGAIN BECAUSE THE BAYSHORES WILL NEED DOING, WHICH IT
06:01:51PM DOES.
06:01:51PM YOU NEED TO PUT SOME MONEY ASIDE, BECAUSE PRETTY SOON --
06:01:56PM BEEN OVER 25 YEARS -- THAT IS THE WAY IT WORKS.
06:01:58PM YOU ARE NOT -- YOU ARE GOING TO WHITTLE AWAY AT IT.
06:02:02PM THAT IS ONE ITEM.
06:02:03PM SECOND OF ALL, I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT REVENUES,
06:02:08PM NOT THE MILLAGE RATE.
06:02:09PM YEAH.
06:02:12PM LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT I THINK YOU NEED TO DO -- [GAVEL
06:02:16PM SOUNDING]
06:02:20PM >> I THINK THAT YOU -- I THINK YOU NEED TO LOOK VERY CLOSELY
06:02:25PM AT THE CRAs.
06:02:27PM I HAVE A VIERA OF ALL THE CRAs AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT I
06:02:35PM VOTED AGAINST EVERY ONE OF THEM WHEN I WAS SITTING WHERE YOU
06:02:39PM ARE.
06:02:39PM THE REASON I DID, FOR SLUM AND BLIGHTED.
06:02:42PM THE LAW SAYS THEY ARE FOR SLUM AND BLIGHTED, AND NO MORE SLUM
06:02:46PM AND BLIGHTED IN CHANNELSIDE AND DOWNTOWN.
06:02:49PM SO IT IS TIME FOR THE REST OF THE CITY TO BENEFIT FROM THOSE
06:02:53PM CRAs.
06:02:54PM THAT WAS MY FEAR -- THAT WAS MY FEAR 25 YEARS AGO AND WHY I
06:03:02PM DIDN'T VOTE FOR THEM.
06:03:03PM BECAUSE THEY CONTINUED TO GO ON.
06:03:05PM THE MONEY STAYS IN THIS POT.
06:03:07PM AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE REST OF THE CITY AREN'T BENEFITING
06:03:12PM ONCE THE SLUM AND BLIGHT IS GONE.
06:03:14PM THAT IS A BIG CHUNK OF CHANGE THAT CAN GO INTO THE BIG POT,
06:03:20PM THE GENERAL FUND WITH RESPECT FOR HOUSING.
06:03:30PM YOU KNOW I AM ALL FOR HOUSING.
06:03:31PM AND UP PROBABLY KNOW I WAS THE ONLY MAYOR THAT DID HOUSING
06:03:35PM FOR SO MUCH.
06:03:36PM BUT WHEN YOU UNDERTAKE A PROGRAM OF THIS MAGNITUDE IN THIS
06:03:39PM BUDGET, YOU REALLY NEED TO START SMALL AND DO A PILOT
06:03:43PM PROJECT.
06:03:43PM MAKE SURE JUST BECAUSE IT WORKS SOMEPLACE ELSE, IT WORKS
06:03:48PM HERE.
06:03:48PM BECAUSE EVERY COMMUNITY IS DIFFERENT.
06:03:51PM AND BY THE WAY, YOU COULD STILL DO THE CHALLENGE FUND.
06:03:55PM THAT SAME FUND COULD BE CREATED TODAY AND INVOLVE ALL KINDS
06:04:00PM OF NONPROFITS AND STILL DO REHAB AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
06:04:05PM AND THEN I WOULD SAY TO YOU, THERE ARE SOME GUYS THAT YOU
06:04:12PM HAVEN'T RAISED IN 30 YEARS.
06:04:14PM TRANSPORTATION IMPACT FEE.
06:04:16PM TO MY KNOWLEDGE HAS NOT BEEN RAISED AND NOBODY WANTS TO
06:04:20PM TOUCH IT BECAUSE ALL THOSE PEOPLE HIRING AND EVERYTHING GETS
06:04:24PM PASSED ON BUT THEY GIVE BIG CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS TO PEOPLE
06:04:28PM TO BENEFIT.
06:04:29PM STORMWATER, YES, WE HAVE TACKLED SOMEWHAT, BUT YOU CAN STILL
06:04:34PM BUILD A BUILDING -- AND I WILL GIVE YOU THE ILLUSTRATION
06:04:37PM WHICH I TOLD YOUR PREDECESSORS, THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE YOU,
06:04:42PM LIKE, SIX YEARS AGO, I THINK IT WAS.
06:04:45PM THERE WAS A COLONNADE RESTAURANT ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
06:04:50PM EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT ONE.
06:04:52PM OKAY.
06:04:52PM THE COLONNADE WAS A LITTLE RESTAURANT OVER HERE.
06:04:55PM IT WASN'T SO LITTLE.
06:04:57PM BUT IT HAD A VAST SEA OF PARKING.
06:05:00PM WELL, THE CODE SAYS THAT IF YOU HAVE 51% OAR MORE IMPERVIOUS
06:05:09PM SURFACE, THAT MEANS THE WATER CAN'T GET DOWN, THAT YOU DON'
06:05:14PM HAVE -- THAT WAS THERE BEFORE, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT IN
06:05:18PM STORMWATER RETENTION POND OR UNDERGROUND VAULT, WHICH IS
06:05:23PM NORMALLY THE CASE, AND ALL OVER THE CITY, THAT IS STILL
06:05:26PM GOING ON.
06:05:27PM I CAN POINT OUT TO YOU LOCATION AFTER LOCATION WHERE BECAUSE
06:05:33PM OF WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE IT WAS PAVED, THE NEXT PEOPLE DON'T
06:05:37PM HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
06:05:38PM I KNOW IT UPSETS THE DEVELOPERS.
06:05:42PM IT REALLY UPSETS THE DEVELOPERS WHEN YOU DO THAT.
06:05:45PM HOWEVER, AFTER 30 YEARS, IT IS TIME THAT THOSE TWO REALLY
06:05:50PM NEED TO BE LOOKED AT.
06:05:51PM THERE ARE OTHER GUYS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CHANGED IN YEARS AND
06:05:55PM YEARS.
06:05:55PM AND THERE IS NO REASON WHY.
06:05:58PM EVERYBODY -- WE BASE IT UPON USER GUYS SO MANY PLACE -- SO
06:06:04PM MANY WAYS.
06:06:04PM WE OUGHT TO IT BE BASING IT FOR EVERYTHING A USER FEE.
06:06:09PM IF YOU GO TO A REC CENTER AND ENGAGE IN AN ART CLASS AND YOU
06:06:14PM WERE PAYING THE SAME FEE 15, 20 YEARS AGO, ALL THE SUPPLIES
06:06:18PM HAVE GONE UP.
06:06:18PM EVERYTHING HAS GONE UP.
06:06:19PM AND I HAVE TAKEN MORE OF MY TIME THAN I SHOULD.
06:06:22PM YOU REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT THE FINAL THING WHICH I THINK IS
06:06:28PM MAYBE THE EASIEST THING TO DO.
06:06:33PM BUT YOU WON'T LIKE IT.
06:06:34PM OR YOU MIGHT LIKE IT.
06:06:35PM BUT THEY WON'T LIKE IT.
06:06:37PM AND THAT IS TO PUT THE BUDGET ON PAPER ONCE AGAIN.
06:06:41PM SO THAT YOU CAN TRACK EVERYBODY CAN TRACK IT.
06:06:47PM NOT ON THE COMPUTER.
06:06:50PM WHEN IT WAS ON PAPER -- IT HAS ONLY BEEN A FEW YEARS AGO.
06:06:56PM WHEN IT WAS ON PAPER, THREE BUDGETS, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
06:07:01PM BUDGET.
06:07:01PM YOU SAW WHAT WAS TWO OR THREE YEARS BEFORE AND YOU COULD
06:07:06PM TRACK IT.
06:07:06PM YOU COULD SEE APPLES AND APPLES.
06:07:08PM IT IS VERY HARD TO DO THAT NOW.
06:07:10PM I AM TECHNOLOGICALLY INEPT.
06:07:12PM BUT SO ARE SOME OF YOU, I GATHER, SO -- [ LAUGHTER ]
06:07:19PM [ APPLAUSE ]
06:07:23PM >> I KNOW THEM ALL.
06:07:24PM AND SO MANY SENIOR CITIZENS ARE.
06:07:26PM I MEAN, I CAN GET ONE OF MY GRANDDAUGHTERS IF I CAN EVER
06:07:31PM CORRAL ONE OF MY GRANDCHILDREN TO COME OVER AND SHOW ME HOW
06:07:34PM TO DO IT.
06:07:35PM BUT, YOU HAVE THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET, THE OPERATING
06:07:40PM BUDGET AND A BUDGET IN BRIEF.
06:07:41PM THEY WERE IN EVERY LIBRARY IN THE CITY FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
06:07:46PM NOT JUST WHEN I WAS THERE, BUT YEARS BEFORE I WAS THERE.
06:07:49PM AND EVERYBODY COULD SEE WHAT HAPPENED TWO OR THREE YEARS
06:07:52PM BEFORE AND THEN THE YEAR BEFORE AND THEN WHAT WAS PROPOSED.
06:07:55PM AND YOU COULD SEE THE POSITIONS.
06:07:57PM AND YOU COULD SEE SALARIES AND YOU COULD SEE ALL THOSE
06:08:00PM THINGS THAT MAYBE YOU CAN'T FIND NOW.
06:08:03PM I WOULD HOPE THAT IS SOMETHING YOU WOULDN'T TAKE UP NEXT
06:08:07PM YEAR'S BUDGET UNLESS IT WAS THAT WAY.
06:08:10PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I AM SORRY I AM OVER.
06:08:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DON'T SELL YOURSELF SHORT, YOU HAVE AN
06:08:18PM iPHONE AND TEXTING.
06:08:20PM YOU ARE ON AN iPHONE AND TEXTING.
06:08:22PM YOU ARE NOT OUT OF TUNE.
06:08:25PM >> I CAN DO SO.
06:08:26PM BUT I AM 80 YEARS OLD.
06:08:28PM WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME.
06:08:29PM [LAUGHTER]
06:08:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR.
06:08:32PM A GREAT WAY TO KICK OFF PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:08:34PM FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
06:08:36PM THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM.
06:08:37PM FIRST REGISTERED IS HUMARA.
06:08:41PM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME?
06:08:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. RANDOLPH.
06:08:46PM >> I WANT TO SHARE MY SCREEN.
06:08:48PM CAN YOU COME BACK TO ME?
06:08:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HUMARA IS THE FIRST REGISTERED SPEAKER.
06:08:55PM >> CHAIR, HUMARA IS NOT LOGGED ON AT THIS TIME.
06:09:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS DIANE LUCE ONLINE?
06:09:07PM DIANE LUCE?
06:09:09PM YES, MA'AM, YOU ARE MUTED.
06:09:10PM PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
06:09:11PM HELLO?
06:09:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:09:21PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
06:09:22PM >> OKAY.
06:09:23PM HI, COUNCILMEMBERS.
06:09:24PM MY NAME IS DIANE LUCE, CERTIFIED ORIENTATION AND MOBILITY
06:09:30PM SPECIALIST WITH THE LIGHTHOUSE FOR THE BLIND AND LOW VISION
06:09:33PM IN TAMPA.
06:09:33PM MY COMMENTS ARE TODAY ARE TO SPECIFICALLY EXPRESS MY SUPPORT
06:09:38PM FOR THE PROPOSED MILLAGE INCREASE AND BUDGET ALLOCATIONS FOR
06:09:43PM TRANSPORTATION PORTION OF THE MOBILITY BUDGET AND EVEN MORE
06:09:46PM SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE DOLLARS THAT WILL BE SPENT INSTALLING
06:09:50PM NEW SIDEWALKS AND REPAIRING OLDER SIDEWALKS.
06:09:52PM I HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN IMPROVING INTERSECTIONS AND
06:09:56PM PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AS WELL.
06:09:58PM BUT THOSE FACILITIES AND SERVICES AREN'T USEFUL.
06:10:01PM UNABLE TO ACCESS THEM BECAUSE OF AT LACK OF A SIDEWALK.
06:10:04PM I WORK EVERY DAY TEACHING SPECIAL LIFE SKILLS, INCLUDING
06:10:08PM WHITE CANE SKILLS, STREET CROSSING SKILLS, PUBLIC FIXED
06:10:12PM ROUTE BUS SKILLS TO ADULTS AND CHILDREN WHO ARE BLIND.
06:10:15PM MOST PEOPLE IN TAMPA WHO ARE BLIND, MOST PEOPLE BLIND
06:10:19PM ANYWHERE WERE SIGHTED AT ONE TIME LIKE EACH OF YOU AND ME.
06:10:24PM AND IF WE LIVE LONG ENOUGH, WE WILL DEVELOP SOME OF SORT OF
06:10:28PM MOBILITY AND SENSORY IMPAIRMENT.
06:10:30PM WE ARE NOT JUST BUILDING A BETTER COMMUNITY FOR OUR
06:10:33PM CHILDREN, WE ARE BUILDING IT FOR OURSELVES.
06:10:34PM SO THERE ARE CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENTS WHO ARE
06:10:39PM VISUALLY-IMPAIRED WORKING HARD EVERY DAY TO DEVELOP THE
06:10:43PM SKILLS NECESSARY TO KEEP ACCESSING THEIR LIVES, GOING TO THE
06:10:46PM GROCERY STORE, MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS, EMPLOYMENT, EDUCATION,
06:10:52PM ENJOYMENT, ACCESSING THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
06:10:55PM SOMETIMES WHEN I AM WORKING WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS BECAUSE
06:10:57PM OF THE LACK OF SIDEWALKS, I HAVE TO TEACH PEOPLE THE SKILLS
06:11:00PM FOR HOW TO WALK IN THE STREET BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHER
06:11:03PM OPTION, NO SIDEWALK.
06:11:04PM AND WHILE IT IS LEGAL AND DOABLE, I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE
06:11:09PM IT IS NOT SAFE.
06:11:10PM AND WHEN YOU ARE BLIND OR VISUALLY-IMPAIRED INCREASINGLY
06:11:14PM LESS SAFE EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF THE INCREASING NUMBER OF
06:11:16PM QUIET CARS AND DISTRACTED DRIVERS ON THE ROAD.
06:11:19PM ACCORDING THE BIKE-WALK TAMPA WEB SITE, MORE MILES OF
06:11:23PM SIDEWALK GAPS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAN THERE ARE SIDEWALKS.
06:11:26PM THE GOOD NEWS IS, THAT THIS IS A SOLVABLE ISSUE.
06:11:31PM A FINITE PROBLEM.
06:11:33PM ONCE THE SIDEWALKS ARE IN, THEY ARE IN.
06:11:35PM AND, YES, THEY WILL REQUIRE CONTINUED MAINTENANCE, BUT RIGHT
06:11:39PM AWAY, IT IS SAFER AND EASIER TO ACCESS -- EASIER ACCESS TO
06:11:43PM CONNECT PEOPLE TO THEIR LIVES AND IN THIS INITIATIVE THAT IS
06:11:48PM IN LINE WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TARGET
06:11:51PM ZERO INITIATIVE TO ELIMINATE PEDESTRIAN INJURIES AND DEATH
06:11:55PM THROUGH IMPROVEMENT AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
06:11:56PM I RESPECT WHAT EACH OF YOU DO AS COUNCILMEMBERS.
06:11:59PM THANK YOU.
06:12:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:12:01PM NEXT UP LYNN HUNT.
06:12:04PM IF YOU WERE ONLINE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:12:06PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
06:12:07PM >> CHAIR, LYNN HUNT IS NOT LOGGED ON.
06:12:11PM AILEEN HENDERSON IS LOGGED ON.
06:12:14PM DOES NOT HAVE VIDEO CAPABILITY AND HOWEVER SHE IS ABLE TO
06:12:18PM SPEAK.
06:12:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS OKAY.
06:12:19PM AILEEN HENDERSON TAMPA STATE YOUR NAME.
06:12:22PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
06:12:24PM >> AILEEN HENDERSON.
06:12:25PM GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:12:26PM I WASN'T EXPECTED TO SPEAK BECAUSE I THOUGHT I HAD TO HAVE A
06:12:31PM VIDEO.
06:12:32PM REAL QUICK.
06:12:32PM NOT THAT I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF RAISING THE MILLAGE.
06:12:35PM I THINK WE CAN COME TO A COMPROMISE.
06:12:37PM I BELIEVE MR. CARLSON TALKED ABOUT THAT.
06:12:40PM I SPENT A FEW HOURS BEING OVER 338 SLIDES OF THE BUDGET AND
06:12:46PM A LOT OF IT WAS -- WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING.
06:12:49PM IT LOOKED LIKE SOME OF THE THINGS WE WERE DOING TWICE WHERE
06:12:52PM WE HAD GENERAL FUNDS FOR SOME THINGS, BUT THEN SPECIFIC FOR
06:12:56PM CERTAIN AREAS.
06:12:56PM I NOTICED NEW TAMPA GETTING $7 MILLION IN UPGRADES AT
06:13:01PM THEIR REC CENTER BUT I DIDN'T SEE A WHOLE LOT FOR ANY OF THE
06:13:04PM OTHER PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENTS THAT COULD REALLY USE
06:13:07PM SOME UPGRADES.
06:13:08PM NEW DUGOUTS, I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
06:13:11PM THERE WAS A $12 MILLION APP, I BELIEVE OR A WAY TO FIND PARK
06:13:18PM SOMETHING IN I HOPE I MISREAD THAT THROUGH THE BUDGET.
06:13:21PM BUT $12 MILLION TO FIND PARK SOMETHING IN I AM A LITTLE
06:13:25PM CONFUSED.
06:13:26PM I GO TO COUNCIL OFTEN, YBOR, PARKING MIGHT BE DIFFICULT, BUT
06:13:31PM I CERTAINLY DON'T NEED AN APP TO DO IT OR NEED TO SPEND $12
06:13:35PM MILLION TO DO THAT.
06:13:36PM OUTSIDE OF THAT, I AM HOPING THAT WHAT I DID HEAR ABOUT
06:13:39PM PARKS AND RECREATION.
06:13:41PM I HEARD -- I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE BECAUSE THIS IS
06:13:44PM HEARSAY, ONLY SPENT 5% OF THEIR BUDGET?
06:13:47PM VERY CAN EARNING TO ME.
06:13:48PM MOST OF YOU AT COUNCIL KNOW I FIGHT FOR OUR HISTORIC
06:13:51PM CEMETERIES.
06:13:52PM I AM FIGHTING FOR THE HISTORY IN BELMONT HEIGHTS AND EAST
06:13:56PM TAMPA.
06:13:56PM I DIDN'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF FUND GOING TO EAST TAMPA OUTSIDE
06:14:00PM OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
06:14:01PM NOTHING SPECIFIC TO SIDEWALKS LIKE I SAW IN SOUTH TAMPA,
06:14:06PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, THE.
06:14:09PM THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION WAS DEFINITELY -- I
06:14:12PM DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING WITH REGARD TO HISTORY OUTSIDE OF SOME
06:14:15PM UPGRADES FOR BRICK STREETS AND THAT WAS ABOUT IT.
06:14:17PM I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SO MANY MORE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE
06:14:20PM PUTTING OUR MONEY TOWARD, BUT YOU ALL KNOW MY FIGHT.
06:14:23PM YOU KNOW I FIGHT FOR HISTORY AND I FIGHT FOR OUR CEMETERIES
06:14:26PM AND SOMEWHERE, WE GOT TO FIND MONEY FOR BEAUTIFICATION,
06:14:29PM BECAUSE IN MY OPINION, WE CAN LOOK TO THEM FOR REVENUE
06:14:32PM GENERATED SOURCES BECAUSE THEY ARE GREEN SPACES.
06:14:35PM AND THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT WE CAN DO -- I HAVE TONS OF
06:14:38PM IDEAS IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THEM.
06:14:41PM BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY OF THAT.
06:14:43PM AND I AM ALWAYS GOING TO SAY WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE
06:14:46PM TO HAVE OLD AND NEW BALANCE.
06:14:48PM AND I DIDN'T SIGH ANY OF THAT IN THE BUDGET.
06:14:51PM THAT IS REALLY ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
06:14:53PM YOU GUYS HAVE TONS TO DO.
06:14:55PM LOTS OF WORK
06:14:55PM GOOD LUCK.
06:14:56PM AND I KNOW THAT YOU WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
06:14:59PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:15:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:15:02PM MR. RANDOLPH, GO BACK TO YOU.
06:15:04PM YOU SAID YOU NEEDED TO SHARE YOUR SCREEN.
06:15:06PM IS THAT CORRECT?
06:15:07PM >> YES, CAN YOU SEE ME?
06:15:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HEAR YOU, BUT I DON'T SEE YOU.
06:15:12PM IF YOU CAN TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.
06:15:15PM >> LET ME SEE WHY IT IS NOT WORKING.
06:15:19PM LET ME FIGURE IT OUT.
06:15:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS HE ABLE TO SHARE HIS SCREEN IF HE
06:15:24PM WANTS TO.
06:15:24PM >> I AM TRYING TO SEE WHY IT WILL NOT LET YOU SEE ME.
06:15:27PM GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
06:15:29PM I GOT TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
06:15:33PM >>CLERK: MR. RANDOLPH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SPEAK YOUR THREE
06:15:40PM MINUTES.
06:15:40PM >> THANK YOU.
06:15:40PM BECAUSE I WASN'T -- I APPRECIATE THAT.
06:15:43PM SO MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
06:15:46PM AND I AM WITH WEST TAMPA.
06:15:50PM TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET.
06:15:53PM BUT THE BUDGET RELATED TO -- THE CRISIS, THE FINANCIAL
06:15:59PM CRISIS THAT HAS INFLICTED OUR NATION OF THE INCOME.
06:16:04PM LOW INCOME AND MIDDLE-INCOME FOLKS.
06:16:08PM YOU HAVE A SOURCE OF INCOME.
06:16:11PM AND SUPPLEMENT HOUSE HOLD OF PEOPLE STRUGGLING.
06:16:16PM NOW I WANT TO TALK OF HOUSE WILLING.
06:16:18PM WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS TALK ABOUT INCOME GENERATORS.
06:16:23PM ENTITIES THAT CAN COME TOGETHER AND HELP.
06:16:27PM FIRST IS PROFESSIONAL WORKSHOP.
06:16:31PM THIS WORKSHOP -- IF YOU KNOW ABOUT GRANT WRITERS, YOU CAN
06:16:35PM EARN ANYWHERE FROM 40 TO $200 AN HOUR.
06:16:40PM THAT IS WHAT WE CALLED A SIDE HUSTLE.
06:16:43PM NOT ONLY ANYWHERE -- BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE IN WEST TAMPA --
06:16:52PM AND CAN ALSO BENEFIT FROM THIS AND OF INCOME.
06:16:56PM THE NEXT THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT IN --
06:17:03PM PEOPLE ARE LEFT BEHIND.
06:17:04PM THIS NEXT WORKSHOP TALKS ABOUT EVERYTHING TECHNOLOGY.
06:17:09PM TALKS ABOUT HOW TO USE TECHNOLOGY TO AID IN BUILDING A
06:17:15PM SKILLSET OF WHAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE TO INCREASE INCOME.
06:17:17PM AND THEN FINALLY, YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS, THE HOME-BASED
06:17:22PM COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.
06:17:22PM THIS HOW WE MONETIZE TALENTS INTO MONEY.
06:17:27PM THIS IS THE FASTEST-GROWING INDUSTRY IN THE NATION.
06:17:30PM HOME-BASED BUSINESSES ANYWHERE FROM BAKING CAKES, COOKIES,
06:17:38PM YOU NAME IT.
06:17:39PM WE CAN MONETIZE THAT COMMENT.
06:17:41PM AND SPECIFICALLY THOSE THINGS -- WITH INCOME.
06:17:47PM AND LOW-INCOME PEOPLE.
06:17:50PM RIGHT NOW WE ARE GOING THROUGH A CRISIS.
06:17:53PM UNLESS WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE A SIDE HUSTLE IN ORDER TO
06:17:57PM INCREASE -- IN ORDER TO HELP WITH THAT CRISIS, WE WILL DEAL
06:18:01PM WITH THIS.
06:18:02PM WITH ALL OF THESE COMING UP -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:18:14PM AND I AM SORRY I COULDN'T DO THE CAMERA THING.
06:18:17PM BUT I AM HAPPY BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SEE ME.
06:18:22PM THANK YOU.
06:18:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:18:24PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE LYNN HUNT LOGGED IN AT THE TIME.
06:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE WAS ON THE LIST.
06:18:31PM LYNN HUNT.
06:18:32PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:18:33PM >> I AM LYNN HUNT.
06:18:35PM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
06:18:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
06:18:37PM GO AHEAD.
06:18:38PM >> THANK YOU.
06:18:39PM I AM LYNN HUNT.
06:18:40PM I AM -- I HAVE WORKED WITH THE TAMPA LIGHTHOUSE FOR 20 YEARS
06:18:43PM THAT I LIVED HERE IN TAMPA AND I AM A TOTALLY BLIND
06:18:47PM INDIVIDUAL.
06:18:47PM I NEVER HAD SIGHT, BUT I DO WANT TO SPEAK TODAY ABOUT THE
06:18:51PM NEED FOR SIDEWALKS, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE I
06:18:54PM LIVE.
06:18:54PM LIKE I SAID, I LIVED HERE 20 YEARS THIS PAST APRIL.
06:19:02PM AND SINCE LIVING HERE, I HAVE ENCOUNTERED MANY, MANY PLACES
06:19:06PM WHERE THERE ARE NOT SIDEWALKS.
06:19:07PM AND JUST FROM SPEAKING FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, SIDEWALKS ARE
06:19:15PM MUCH MORE SAFE THAN NONSIDEWALKS.
06:19:18PM SOME OTHER PEOPLE HAVE STATED.
06:19:20PM I HAVE LIVED IN PLACES WHERE THE TRAFFIC GOES HAVE I
06:19:24PM QUICKLY.
06:19:25PM AND THE TRAFFIC WITHOUT SIDEWALKS SOUNDS VERY CLOSE.
06:19:30PM LIKE FOR A VISUALLY-IMPAIRED PERSON, IT ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE
06:19:36PM IT COULD HIT YOU AND PROBABLY COULD, BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE ARE
06:19:40PM TEXTING ON THEIR PHONES.
06:19:41PM THEY HAVE HYBRID CARS THAT YOU DON'T HEAR.
06:19:44PM WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE WHO -- I HAVE HAD THEM COME SO CLOSE TO
06:19:48PM ME BEFORE KIND OF UP ON WHAT WOULD BE A CURB AND I HAD TO GO
06:19:53PM TO THE LEFT SIDE.
06:19:54PM ALSO, I HAVE BEEN BOTH A GUIDE DOG USER AND A CANE TRAVELER.
06:19:59PM CANE TRAVELER JUST RECENTLY AS I RETIRED MY LAST DOG.
06:20:03PM AND THE TRAVELING WITH NO SIDEWALKS AS A CANE TRAVELER MEANS
06:20:10PM CANE GETS STUCK IN THE GRASS AND I AM ALWAYS HAVING TO
06:20:13PM REMIND MYSELF TO FAVOR THAT LEFT SIDE WHICH IS WHAT YOU HAVE
06:20:18PM TO DO WITH A DOG.
06:20:18PM THE REMINDER TO KEEP TELLING THE DOG, GO LEFT, GO LEFT, GO
06:20:24PM LEFT CAN BE ANNOYING AND DISTRACTING THE DOG.
06:20:27PM THE EXPERIENCE I HAD ONE TIME WHEN I LIVED SOMEWHERE.
06:20:31PM I GOT INTO FIRE ANTS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO SIDEWALKS.
06:20:34PM I WAS WAITING AT A BUS STOP.
06:20:35PM AND THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK, OF COURSE, AT THE BUS STOP.
06:20:39PM NO PAVEMENT AND STANDING IN GRASS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I WAS
06:20:42PM IS BITTEN BY FIRE ANTS AND VERY UNPLEASANT SITUATION AND YOU
06:20:47PM ARE BLIND, YOU DON'T KNOW THEY ARE THERE AND EVERYTHING.
06:20:50PM I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE -- WHAT I HAVE BEEN LISTENING TO
06:20:53PM TODAY, I WOULD REALLY BE SUPPORTING THE MONEY OR WHATEVER
06:20:59PM NEEDS TO BE ALLOCATED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SAFE SIDEWALKS.
06:21:02PM FOR NOT JUST BLIND PEOPLE BUT OLDER PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WITH
06:21:06PM CHILDREN.
06:21:06PM THANK YOU.
06:21:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:21:09PM ALL RIGHT.
06:21:09PM SUELING, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS.
06:21:15PM >>CLERK: YES, SIR.
06:21:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOLKS HERE IN PERSON.
06:21:18PM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR
06:21:21PM NAME.
06:21:21PM IF YOU WOULD FORM A LINE ON THAT SIDE, AND WE WILL TAKE
06:21:24PM FOLKS IN ORDER.
06:21:25PM YES, SIR.
06:21:26PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:21:29PM JOHN MILLER.
06:21:30PM I AM VICE PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA BPA.
06:21:33PM THE POLICE UNION.
06:21:34PM BEEN HERE A LITTLE OVER 17 YEARS.
06:21:38PM I CAN HONESTLY SAY I HAVE SEEN THE CITY GROW AND INCREASE BY
06:21:42PM OVER 30%.
06:21:43PM I HAVE SEEN THE SAME ONE COP DOWNTOWN THAT -- 17 YEARS AGO,
06:21:48PM STILL THE SAME ONE COP NOW.
06:21:50PM I HAVE SEEN THE SAME ONE COP WORKING SOUTH OF GANDY AT
06:21:53PM NIGHT.
06:21:54PM STILL THE SAME ONE COP HAPPENING NOW.
06:21:57PM I HATE TAXES AS MUCH AS EVERYBODY ELSE.
06:21:59PM I HAVE TO BUDGET IT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR TO MAKE SURE I CAN
06:22:03PM PAY MY PROPERTY TAX BILL.
06:22:05PM FLORIDA A POSITION I USED TO RUN A THIRD OF THE CITY AT A
06:22:08PM UNION AT ANY GIVEN TIME, WE ASKED FOR OFFICERS TO DO THINGS
06:22:12PM MY SERGEANTS WOULD NEVER ASK ME TO DO.
06:22:14PM WE ARE MAKING IT SIGNIFICANTLY LESS SAFE.
06:22:16PM THEY DON'T HAVE THE BACK-UPS THAT THEY NEED.
06:22:18PM THE CITY HAS GROWN BY 30% AND GAINED A NET OF ONE EXTRA COP
06:22:23PM IN THESE 17 YEARS.
06:22:24PM THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE.
06:22:25PM I KNOW THAT THE CHIEF HERE, HE PUT TOGETHER A MASTER PLAN OR
06:22:29PM WHATEVER CALLING FOR AN EXTRA 30 OFFICERS FOR THE -- FOR THE
06:22:33PM IMMEDIATE TERM.
06:22:34PM THAT 30 OFFICERS, TRY GET GRANT FUNDED.
06:22:39PM NOT A GUARANTEE.
06:22:40PM POLICE AND FIRE NEED A DESIGNATED FUNDING SOURCE.
06:22:42PM AFTER THAT EXTRA 15 AND 10.
06:22:45PM 30 OFFICERS MAY SOUND LIKE A LOT, BUT 75% OF SQUADS WILL
06:22:48PM GAIN ONE EXTRA BODY AND CRYING FOR TWO AND THREE BECAUSE THE
06:22:52PM CITY HAS GROWN SO MUCH.
06:22:54PM THE -- I KNOW MY FIRE COUNTERPART IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE
06:22:58PM ALSO.
06:22:58PM I DON'T KNOW IF HE WILL MAKE IT.
06:22:59PM HE WAS FLYING IN TONIGHT.
06:23:01PM LISTENING TO THEM WHERE THEY NEED EXTRA STATIONS AND
06:23:04PM RESPONSE TIMES AND THAT KIND OF THING.
06:23:06PM FOR THEM WHEN SECONDS MATTER, YOU ARE TALKING OF ADDING
06:23:10PM EXTRA MINUTES.
06:23:10PM PEOPLE HAVING HEART ATTACKS ARE NEEDING SOMETHING ELSE AND
06:23:14PM NOT THAT GREAT AND ALL BUT BE PREPARED TO WAIT.
06:23:16PM POLICE ARE NO DIFFERENT.
06:23:18PM I CALLED AN OFFICER WHEN I ARRESTED SOMEONE ELSE
06:23:24PM UNEXPECTEDLY IN A CAR THAT DOESN'T HAVE A CAGE AND DEALING
06:23:26PM WITH A PERSON ON THE GROUND AND TOOK 16 MINUTES FOR SOMEONE
06:23:28PM TO COME TO ME AND THAT IS FROM A LIEUTENANT CALLING.
06:23:31PM I UNDERSTAND CERTAIN PRIORITY AND STUFF, BUT REALIZE THAT
06:23:34PM THEY ARE BUSY AT THIS POINT OVERTASKED BEYOND THE POINT THAT
06:23:39PM IS REALLY ACCEPTABLE AT THIS POINT.
06:23:40PM I FEEL THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IN GENERAL, WE ARE FOLLOWING
06:23:44PM BEHIND THE 8-BALL.
06:23:45PM AT LEAST FROM A POLICE STANDPOINT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I
06:23:48PM KNOW.
06:23:48PM ONCE YOU GET THERE, YOU CAN DOUBLE, TRIPLE THE AMOUNT OF
06:23:51PM MONEY, THROW MONEY AT IT AND NO LONGER FIX IT.
06:23:56PM YOU BECOME THE CHICAGO.
06:23:58PM AND VIOLENT CRIME SPIKING THROUGH THE ROOF AND WHAT IS TO
06:24:02PM COMBAT THAT?
06:24:03PM VIOLENT CRIME IF YOU LOOK HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN INCREASING
06:24:06PM NOT JUST IN THIS AREA BUT ACROSS THE U.S. AND WE HAVE NO
06:24:10PM ANSWERS FOR IT AND CAN'T THROW MORE RESOURCE AS THE IT AT
06:24:13PM THIS POINT BECAUSE WE FRANKLY DON'T HAVE THEM.
06:24:15PM IN ORDER TO GET THAT AS WELL AS -- I KNOW THAT ROUGHLY 190
06:24:19PM OF OUR VEHICLES ARE OVER 13 YEARS OLD.
06:24:21PM I WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT IN MY HOUSE LET ALONE THESE ARE
06:24:24PM VEHICLES THAT DRIVE TEN, 12 HOURS A DAY GOING TO NOTHING BUT
06:24:27PM EMERGENCIES.
06:24:27PM I YIELD MY TIME NOW BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE I AM OUT OF IT.
06:24:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:24:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY.
06:24:35PM I APPRECIATE WHAT THE GENTLEMAN SPOKE TO AND I HAD NO
06:24:38PM CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
06:24:39PM OF POLICE OFFICER OVER 1,000 AND HOW WE COMPARE WITH OTHER
06:24:42PM CITIES AND RESPONSE TIMES WITH THE FIRE AND POLICE, BOTH OF
06:24:44PM THEM.
06:24:45PM AND I ALSO HAVE A HAND JO OUT LATER ON WHEN ALL THIS IS
06:24:48PM TAKEN CARE OF, THAT COULD POSSIBLY SOME OF THE DEFICIENCIES
06:24:54PM WITH AN IMPACT FEE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND SO FORTH.
06:24:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
06:24:58PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
06:25:00PM STATE YOUR NAME.
06:25:00PM >> MENTESNOT.
06:25:02PM HE HAD TO WAIT 16 MINUTES FOR AN OFFICER TO GET THERE.
06:25:06PM IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY, SOMETIMES THE OFFICER NEVER GET
06:25:08PM THERE.
06:25:09PM ALL RIGHT.
06:25:09PM CRIME HAPPENS TO US, AND OFFICER NEVER GET THERE.
06:25:12PM AND WE HAVE A THING WHERE 911 HANG UP ON BLACK PEOPLE.
06:25:16PM ALL THAT STUFF AIN'T GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS $2 BILLION
06:25:20PM BUDGET.
06:25:20PM THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THE ONE THING I TEACH MY KIDS TO
06:25:24PM BE GOOD AND TO BE BLACK.
06:25:25PM BE GOOD AND BE BLACK AND NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.
06:25:28PM IT WILL BE OKAY FROM THERE.
06:25:31PM DON'T LET ANYBODY BULLY YOU.
06:25:33PM DON'T BULLY ANYBODY.
06:25:35PM BE GOOD AND BE BLACK.
06:25:36PM WE HEARD THE WORD DISINGENUOUS USED TODAY.
06:25:39PM THAT IS A STRONG WORD.
06:25:41PM A VERY STRONG WORD.
06:25:42PM THAT MEANS IT IS JUST LIKE -- SOMEONE DO SOMETHING TO
06:25:45PM SOMEONE ELSE'S CHARACTER LIKE UNDERNEATH.
06:25:48PM LIKE DOING SOMETHING -- WHEN PEOPLE THROW WORDS AT YOU.
06:25:51PM IT IS GOOD TO SEE SANDY FREEMAN.
06:25:54PM MAYOR SANDY FREEMAN.
06:25:56PM SHE WAS RESPONSIBLE IN FALSELY INCARCERATING ME YEARS AGO.
06:26:01PM YES.
06:26:02PM IT IS ALL IN THE NEWSPAPER AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.
06:26:06PM GOOD TO SEE HERE .
06:26:07PM I SEE HER IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ALL THE TIME.
06:26:09PM THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS BEEN
06:26:14PM LEAVING A LARGE PERCENT DAMAGE OF THE POPULATION OF
06:26:16PM RESIDENTS OUT OF THE LOOP.
06:26:17PM NOT JUST EAST TAMPA, BUT SOUTH TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, HYDE PARK,
06:26:21PM DREW PARK, SULFUR SPRINGS AND MANY OTHER PLACES.
06:26:24PM OVER IN HENDERSON AND DALE MA I CANNERY, WAITED FOR 50 YEARS
06:26:28PM AND SIX AND SEVEN MAYORS TO STOP THE FLOODING AND JUST
06:26:31PM RECENTLY THEY DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
06:26:33PM AND EAST TAMPA, THE CITY IS BUYING LAND WITH NO DEVELOPMENT,
06:26:37PM NO VERY IF I DAYS.
06:26:38PM THERE IS NO HOUSING FOR THE POOR AND WORKING-CLASS.
06:26:40PM OVER $200 MILLION SPENT ON THE HANNA AVENUE PROJECT.
06:26:44PM A PROJECT THAT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE.
06:26:46PM NOBODY KNEW ABOUT, OKAY.
06:26:49PM AND THE SMART MAYOR GAVE THE POLICE A 18% PAY RAISE BEFORE
06:26:53PM ALL THIS EVEN STARTED, OKAY.
06:26:55PM THE MAYOR'S ECONOMIST AND THE PEOPLE AROUND HER IS GIVING
06:27:00PM HER BAD ADVICE.
06:27:01PM THE ROADS DON'T NEED TO BE PAVED.
06:27:02PM ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WITH THE ROADS, THE GIVEAWAY TO
06:27:06PM DEVELOPERS.
06:27:06PM THEY COME.
06:27:07PM THEY DO THE UNDERGROUND CABLE.
06:27:09PM THEY DO THAT WHATSOEVER AND LEAVE THE SIDEWALKS A MESS.
06:27:12PM AND THEY WANT THE CITY TO PAY FOR IT.
06:27:14PM YOU CAN GO RIGHT BY MY HOUSE -- ONE OF MY HOUSE IN EAST
06:27:19PM TAMPA AND SEE IT.
06:27:19PM THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, NO BUDGET INCREASE NEEDED.
06:27:22PM I WILL TELL YOU WHY.
06:27:23PM REPRESENTATIVES SAY THAT IT'S PEOPLE THAT WHATEVER.
06:27:31PM THE PEOPLE HERE ARE OPPOSED TO IT.
06:27:34PM I AM GOING TO TELL YOU THIS, I CAN WEAR THESE SOCKS -- IF I
06:27:40PM CAN WEAR THIS SHIRT.
06:27:42PM OKAY.
06:27:44PM IF I CAN WEAR THIS UNDERWEAR.
06:27:48PM IF I CAN WEAR THIS UNDERWEAR, TRYING TO HANG ON TO WHAT I
06:27:52PM HAVE TO HANG ON TO.
06:27:53PM IF I CAN WEAR THESE SHOES WITH HOLES IN THEM AND STILL
06:27:58PM TRYING TO MAKE IT.
06:27:59PM THE CITY DON'T NEED NO BUDGET INCREASE, NONE.
06:28:04PM NO HALF A MILL.
06:28:05PM NOTHING.
06:28:06PM PERIOD.
06:28:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:28:09PM >> THANK YOU
06:28:10PM [APPLAUSE]
06:28:16PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
06:28:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
06:28:33PM STATE YOUR NAME.
06:28:34PM >> MY NAME IS LAURA LYON.
06:28:36PM I HAVE LIVE IN WEST TAMPA, AND FOR FIVE YEARS, I WAS A
06:28:39PM VOLUNTEER AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY.
06:28:41PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT AN $11,000
06:28:45PM DONATION THAT IS SLATED TO COME YOUR WAY IN THE NEXT FISCAL
06:28:49PM YEAR.
06:28:50PM OVER THE SUMMER, THERE WAS AN OUTBREAK OF THE PANLUPSINA
06:28:57PM VIRUS IN THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT EFFECTS CATS, NOT HUMAN
06:29:01PM SPECIES, WILL NOT AFFECT HUMANS AND DOGS.
06:29:05PM IT CAN BE DEADLY BUT NOT A DEATH SENTENCE.
06:29:07PM PROPERLY QUARANTINE AND TEST ANIMALS THEY CAN SURVIVE AND
06:29:12PM THERE IS A VACCINE FOR IT.
06:29:13PM THE HUMANE SOCIETY OPTED INSTEAD TO EUTHANIZE EVERY KITTEN
06:29:18PM IN THEIR CARE UNDER FOUR MONTHS.
06:29:19PM IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 40 KITTENS.
06:29:22PM AND THEY TOLD THEIR VOLUNTEERS THIS VIA AN E-MAIL WHICH IS
06:29:27PM INCLUDED IN THE PACKET THAT I PASSED OUT TO ALL OF YOU.
06:29:29PM THIS WAS A TOTAL SHOCK TO THE VOLUNTEER COMMUNITY AND ALSO
06:29:34PM THE STAFF THAT HAD TO GO THROUGH WITH THE EUTHANASIA.
06:29:38PM I WAS WITH PRIVATE GROUPS WITH THEM ON FACEBOOK, SEMI
06:29:42PM PRIVATE GROUPS, THINGS THAT WERE FOR FOSTERS AND VOLUNTEERS.
06:29:45PM IT WAS REALLY HARD ON THE COMMUNITY.
06:29:48PM SO THE HUMANE SOCIETY HAS TWO TAG LINES THAT I HAVE IT HEARD
06:29:51PM OVER THE YEARS.
06:29:52PM ONE IS "SAVE THEM ALL" AND THE OTHER IS "EVERY LIFE COUNTS."
06:29:59PM I FEEL THAT THE DECISION TO EUTHANIZE ALL THE CATS IN THEIR
06:30:02PM CARE UNDER A CERTAIN AGE IS IN TOTAL OPPOSITION TO THEIR
06:30:05PM MISSION.
06:30:05PM IN THE SAME WAY THOUGH, THERE ARE DOZENS OF OTHER RESCUES IN
06:30:11PM TAMPA WHO ARE DOING INCREDIBLE WORK THAT ARE MORE IN LINE
06:30:15PM WITH ANIMAL CARE AND ANIMAL RESCUE, AND I THINK THIS MONEY
06:30:18PM WOULD GO MUCH FURTHER AND MUCH BETTER SUITED TO THEM
06:30:22PM INSTEAD.
06:30:22PM AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I BROUGHT THAT TO YOUR
06:30:27PM ATTENTION AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
06:30:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:30:31PM DID YOU TAKE THIS PHOTO?
06:30:32PM >> I DID.
06:30:33PM SO THAT IS ACTUALLY -- ONE OF THE KITTENS THAT WAS IN MY
06:30:36PM CARE.
06:30:37PM AND I WAS -- I WAS INSTRUCTED TO BRING HIM AND HIS SIBLINGS
06:30:43PM BACK TO THE SHELTER EVERY EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW THERE WAS A
06:30:47PM VIRUS AND I OPTED TO HOLD ON TO HIM AND HIS SIBLINGS.
06:30:50PM IF I HAD NOT DONE THAT AND DID WHAT THE HUMANE SOCIETY, I
06:30:55PM WOULD LIKELY WOULD HAVE BEEN EUTHANIZED AND HE WAS PERFECTLY
06:30:59PM HEALTHY AND I RAISED HIM SINCE HE WAS A WEEK OLD.
06:31:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEAUTIFUL PHOTO.
06:31:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MA'AM?
06:31:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LAURA.
06:31:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MISS LYON, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND.
06:31:15PM I KNOW MY AIDE MISS SHARP IS AROUND.
06:31:17PM IF YOU HAVE A LIST OF OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT YOU FEEL
06:31:20PM COULD BETTER USE THAT MONEY, I KNOW THAT WE WILL BE WILLING
06:31:24PM TO LISTEN TO IT -- TO LOOK AT IT.
06:31:26PM >> ABSOLUTELY, THANK YOU.
06:31:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
06:31:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE YOUR CONTACT INFO HERE WITH
06:31:31PM PHONE NUMBERS.
06:31:31PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:31:34PM >> THANK YOU.
06:31:35PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:31:36PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
06:31:38PM >> YES, MY NAME IS MARA CRUZ LANCE, TAMPA, FLORIDA SAUL MY
06:31:45PM LIFE.
06:31:45PM I'M HERE AGAINST THE BUDGET INCREASE FOR THE TAX MILLAGE.
06:31:50PM IN "USA TODAY," I HAVE HERE WHERE TAMPA, ST. PETE,
06:31:58PM CLEARWATER HAS AN INFLATION RATE OF 11.2%.
06:32:01PM THAT IS HIGHER THAN CALIFORNIA, WHICH IS 9.2%.
06:32:06PM AND HIGHER THAN NEW YORK.
06:32:07PM THOSE ARE BIG CITIES.
06:32:08PM SO I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
06:32:11PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED TO SEE THIS.
06:32:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PUT IT ON THE ELMO.
06:32:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE CAN TURN ON THE ELMO.
06:32:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE IT A LITTLE BIT DOWN.
06:32:22PM >> DOES THAT WORK?
06:32:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
06:32:25PM >> 11.2, TAMPA, ST. PETE, CLEARWATER.
06:32:28PM THE REST ARE LOWER -- WE ARE THE HIGHEST IN THE WHOLE NATION
06:32:32PM AS FAR AS INFLATION.
06:32:33PM OKAY.
06:32:39PM IS THAT OKAY?
06:32:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
06:32:41PM >> ALL RIGHT.
06:32:42PM AND THEN HERE -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT --
06:32:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN.
06:32:48PM >> THIS IS A SINGLE MOM.
06:32:49PM HER HOUSE HAS BEEN ASSESSED A LITTLE UNDER $400,000.
06:32:52PM AND IF YOU SEE THERE, IT'S -- IT IS 6, 4, 7, 9, 640, 079.
06:33:09PM YOU DO THE INCREASE THAT GOES UP BY $700 ALMOST.
06:33:14PM A SINGLE MOM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:33:16PM LIKE HER NOT ONLY SINGLE MOMS THAT HAVE CHILDREN, BUT I AM
06:33:22PM TALKING ABOUT RETIREES, PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING ON FIXED
06:33:25PM INCOMES.
06:33:25PM THEY CAN NOT AFFORD THESE INCREASES.
06:33:28PM I HAVE EVEN CONSIDERED MOVING OUT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND I
06:33:33PM WAS GOVERN AND RAISED HERE.
06:33:34PM SO THAT'S HOW THAT.
06:33:35PM ALSO, AS WAS MENTIONED, WE HAD INCREASES IN HOMEOWNER
06:33:44PM INSURANCE.
06:33:44PM UNBELIEVABLE INCREASES.
06:33:46PM SO I WANT TO YOU SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE.
06:33:48PM SO IT IS NOT JUST THE MILLAGE.
06:33:50PM IT IS EVERYTHING.
06:33:51PM AUTO INSURANCE.
06:33:53PM MY -- MY BROTHER JUST RETIRED.
06:33:55PM HIS AUTO INSURANCE WENT UP BY $400 FOR SIX MONTHS.
06:33:58PM I MEAN, THAT IS -- THAT IS A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT.
06:34:02PM ON TOP OF THE INFLATION RATE.
06:34:04PM A SINGLE MOM THAT HI KNOW IS WORKING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK
06:34:08PM HAVING TROUBLE JUST TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE AND PAY HER
06:34:11PM BILLS.
06:34:12PM THE OTHER THING IS, AS A LANDLORD, I TRY TO KEEP MY RENTS
06:34:16PM LOW.
06:34:17PM BUT IF YOU RAISE OUR RATES, OUR TAXES, WE HAVE TO RAISE
06:34:22PM RATES AND TAXING ON THE RENTERS.
06:34:25PM SO THAT IS AN OXYMORON.
06:34:27PM IT JUST GOES AROUND IN A CIRCLE.
06:34:29PM AND, AGAIN, WE ALSO HAVE A HIGH INTEREST RATE.
06:34:33PM SO IT MAKES IT HARDER FOR DEVELOPERS TO BUILD LOW INCOME
06:34:37PM HOUSING.
06:34:37PM SO I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:34:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:34:41PM YES, MA'AM.
06:34:42PM MILLS TATE, GO AHEAD.
06:34:51PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:34:52PM YES, MA'AM.
06:34:54PM >> GOOD EVENING.
06:34:56PM COUNCILMEMBERS, CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO, FRAN TATE, PRESIDENT OF
06:35:02PM THE JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
06:35:04PM THE MAJORITY OF OUR DEDICATED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
06:35:08PM MEMBERS ARE COMPRISED OF RETIRED SENIORS.
06:35:11PM I AM SOON TO JOIN THAT HONORABLE GROUP.
06:35:18PM TONIGHT I WANT YOU TO TRULY THINK OF US WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR
06:35:27PM DECISION.
06:35:28PM AS IT PERTAINS TO THE MAYOR'S PROPOSAL TO INCREASE THE
06:35:35PM MILLAGE RATE.
06:35:35PM FIRST, WE ARE SENIORS.
06:35:37PM IN OUR COMMUNITY.
06:35:39PM WE ARE SERVANTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
06:35:43PM WE LIVE ON FIXED INCOMES.
06:35:46PM I AM PREPARED FOR THAT.
06:35:48PM WE ARE FACING A RISE IN OUR GROCERY BILL, OUR MEDICATION
06:35:54PM BILL, OUR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE, OUR AUTO INSURANCE, ELECTRIC
06:35:59PM AND WATER BILL.
06:36:00PM WE WANT YOU TO SERIOUSLY REMEMBER US WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR
06:36:08PM DECISION.
06:36:09PM MAYOR FREEMAN --
06:36:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RIGHT BEHIND YOU, THE OTHER SIDE.
06:36:14PM >> IT WAS A PLEASURE TO MEET AND HEAR FROM YOU TONIGHT.
06:36:18PM YOU ARE CORRECT.
06:36:19PM THE CRAs CAN CONTRIBUTE MORE MONEY.
06:36:22PM AND WE DID.
06:36:23PM I AM THE CHAIR OF EAST TAMPA CRA, AND WE GAVE, I THINK, THE
06:36:28PM MOST AMOUNT FOR HOUSING -- FOR HOUSING.
06:36:31PM BUT OTHER CRAs CAN CONTRIBUTE AS WELL.
06:36:34PM SO YOU -- YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THAT.
06:36:36PM YOU ARE RIGHT.
06:36:36PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, YOU ARE RIGHT.
06:36:41PM HOUSING, FIRST AND FOREMOST.
06:36:44PM FIRST AND FOREMOST.
06:36:45PM PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE SIDEWALK IN EAST TAMPA.
06:36:48PM BUT WITH THE MONIES THAT THE CRAs HAVE ALREADY CONTRIBUTED,
06:36:53PM ARE WE USING THAT?
06:36:55PM AND IF WE ARE, CAN WE START BUILDING?
06:36:57PM CAN WE SEE SOME BUILDING GOING ON?
06:37:01PM I AM SO -- I AM SO HURT.
06:37:03PM I SEE WOMEN ON THE SIDEWALKS SLEEPING.
06:37:08PM AND THAT IS NOT SAFE AND IT IS NOT RIGHT.
06:37:11PM LET'S START BUILDING WHAT WE GOT ALREADY, PLEASE.
06:37:16PM BUT PLEASE REMEMBER US WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, THE
06:37:20PM SENIORS OF THE COMMUNITY.
06:37:22PM WE ARE ON FIXED INCOMES.
06:37:24PM AND WE HAVE RAISING COSTS THAT WE HAVE TO MANAGE.
06:37:27PM THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
06:37:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
06:37:30PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:37:31PM [ APPLAUSE ]
06:37:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE CAN JUST STAY QUIET AS PEOPLE
06:37:37PM TALK.
06:37:37PM I KNOW -- BUT, YES, MA'AM, MISS BENNETT.
06:37:40PM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
06:37:42PM A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA WHEN MY DRIVEWAY IS CRACKED,
06:37:47PM SANTA CLAUS ISN'T GOING TO COME FIX IT.
06:37:49PM I HAVE TO PAY SOMEBODY TO FIX IT.
06:37:51PM I UNDERSTAND IF WE WANT SERVICES, THEY HAVE TO BE PAID FOR.
06:37:55PM I AM NOT ONE OF THESE PEOPLE WHO IS JUST AN AUTOMATIC NO TO
06:37:59PM THE MILLAGE INCREASE, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I AM VERY,
06:38:04PM VERY CAREFUL WITH MY MONEY.
06:38:05PM AND I -- I PRIORITIZE VERY CAREFULLY.
06:38:08PM AND WHEN I LOOK AT THIS MILLAGE INCREASE, WHAT I WANT TO
06:38:12PM KNOW IS, HOW WELL IS THE MONEY BEING MANAGED?
06:38:15PM WHAT ARE THE PRIORITIES?
06:38:16PM HOW MUCH YE -- CREATIVITY BEING USED?
06:38:23PM MY PROBLEM IS WITH SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS AND OTHER GROUPS
06:38:28PM TRIED FOR YEAR TO GET A SINGLE -- A SINGLE FEE RAISED AND
06:38:31PM WERE UNSUCCESSFUL.
06:38:32PM YEARS AGO COUNCILMAN DINGFELDER ASKED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY
06:38:35PM IMPACT FEE.
06:38:36PM GOT CRICKETS.
06:38:39PM SO YOU HAVE THE PBA SAYING THIS -- THIS HUGE INCREASE IN
06:38:45PM POPULATION SO WE NEED MORE FIRE FIGHTERS.
06:38:47PM I DIDN'T INVITE THEM.
06:38:48PM I MEAN.
06:38:50PM OKAY, THEY CAN MOVE HERE, BUT THEY NEED TO PAY FOR WHAT IT
06:38:54PM COST TO MOVE HERE.
06:38:56PM THEY NEED TO PAY THEIR IMPACT.
06:38:57PM I DON'T -- I DON'T WANT TO SUBSIDIZE THEIR MOVE HERE.
06:39:01PM AND I DON'T WANT TO SUBSIDIZE THE DEVELOPERS' PROFITS FROM
06:39:06PM THEIR MOVE HERE.
06:39:07PM THEY NEED TO PAY THEIR OWN WAY.
06:39:10PM PART OF THE REASON WITH THE MILLAGE INCREASE, I HAVE SEEN NO
06:39:13PM INTEREST WHATSOEVER LOOKING AT OUR GUYS THAT MAYOR FREEMAN
06:39:18PM RIGHTLY POINTED OUT HAVEN'T BEEN CHANGED FOR SO LONG.
06:39:22PM CHANGE IN LAND USE.
06:39:23PM IF A DEVELOPER WANTS TO CHANGE LAND USE, $1,000.
06:39:26PM YOU KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY CHARGES, $8,000.
06:39:29PM THAT IS BECAUSE IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS -- AND I REPEAT, IN
06:39:32PM THE LAST FOUR YEARS, THE COUNTY WENT THROUGH ALL ITS GUYS.
06:39:35PM THEY REVAMPED THEM.
06:39:36PM THEY RAISED THEM.
06:39:37PM THEY LOOKED AT WHAT THEY SHOULD REALLY BE AND THEY DID THE
06:39:41PM JOB.
06:39:41PM I DIDN'T SEE THAT IN THE CITY.
06:39:43PM YOU COME TO ME AND IT IS LIKE -- MY KIDS, I NEED MORE MONEY.
06:39:47PM HOW DID YOU SPEND THE MONEY I ALREADY GAVE YOU.
06:39:49PM IF I BELIEVE YOU SPENT THE MONEY AS WELL AND PRY OR PHASED,
06:39:54PM I CAN GIVE YOU MORE MONEY.
06:39:55PM I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
06:39:56PM ANOTHER PROBLEM IS THE PRIORITIES.
06:39:57PM TAMPA CONSISTENTLY RATES BEST IN THE NATION AND ALMOST BEST
06:40:04PM AT KILLING PEOPLE.
06:40:05PM WE HAVE THE WORST, WORST PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES IN THE
06:40:08PM NATION.
06:40:09PM ARE YOU GOING TO TELL ME WE HAVE THE SMALLEST BUDGET, THE
06:40:12PM LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY?
06:40:13PM NO, WE DON'T.
06:40:14PM A MATTER OF PRIORITIES.
06:40:16PM WE ARE EITHER DOING EVERYTHING WRONG IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO
06:40:19PM LIVE OR IF WE ARE TRYING TO KILL OUR CITIZENS, WE ARE DOING
06:40:22PM EVERYTHING RIGHT.
06:40:22PM SO I BELIEVE THAT THE MONEY IS THERE TO DO MORE.
06:40:26PM I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE REALLOCATED.
06:40:29PM I THINK THE CIT, MR. MIRANDA, ABSOLUTELY.
06:40:33PM THEY ARE NOT -- IF YOU APPROVE THIS, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
06:40:37PM RENEW THE CIT.
06:40:39PM THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM.
06:40:42PM DON'T GO BELOW THE 6.2 AND SUNSET TWO CRAs.
06:40:47PM THANK YOU.
06:40:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:40:49PM >> GOOD EVENING, MESTIS SAMERGEN AND SPEAKING OF THE SOCIAL
06:40:56PM ACT, THE $11,000 TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY.
06:40:59PM I MYSELF HAS BEEN A VOLUNTEER FOR TEN YEARS AND FOSTERED
06:41:04PM OVER 150 CATS.
06:41:05PM I HAVE BEEN WITH THEM THROUGH GOOD AND BAD AND A LOT OF BAD.
06:41:08PM AND THEIR RECENT HANDLING OF THE SITUATION REGARDING THE PAN
06:41:13PM LIKE KITTENS THAT MY ASSOCIATE SPOKE ABOUT IS SOMETHING I
06:41:17PM CAN NO LONGER STAND BY.
06:41:18PM WHEN IT HAPPENED, WE WERE E-MAILED AS SHE MENTIONED THAT
06:41:22PM THEY MADE THIS DECISION WITHOUT TESTING MANY OF THE KITTENS
06:41:28PM UNDER FOUR MONTHS OLD.
06:41:29PM THEY MADE THIS DECISION.
06:41:31PM NOT WHAT WE CONSIDER BASED ON ANIMAL WELFARE BUT BASED ON
06:41:35PM THE CHOICE TO NOT SPEND THE MONEY.
06:41:37PM THE HUMANE SOCIETY, BY THEIR IRS FORM 990 FOR 2022 FILING,
06:41:45PM THEY RECEIVED $13,429,168 WITHOUT RESTRICTION HAND THIS IS
06:41:51PM FROM THEIR OWN POSTED WEB SITE.
06:41:54PM ICS SPENDS $12,962,498.
06:41:58PM AND THEY HAVE NET ASSETS OF $25,842,880.
06:42:04PM SO JUST FROM THEIR INCOMING FUNDS THEY RECEIVED FROM THE
06:42:07PM GENERAL POPULATION, THEY RECEIVED $466,670.
06:42:12PM SO I ASK, WHERE WAS THAT MONEY FROM THAT POCKET THAT COULD
06:42:16PM HAVE TESTED THOSE KITTENS?
06:42:19PM THINK MADE A CHOICE, NOT FOR ANIMAL WALL FAIR LIKE THEIR
06:42:23PM CREED AND STATEMENT STATES.
06:42:25PM THEY MADE A CHOICE THAT WE SEE FOR THEM TO SAVE MONEY AND
06:42:28PM PUT IT IN THEIR POCKETS.
06:42:30PM ON -- FROM THEIR IRS FORMS FROM THE FILINGS FOR THE LAST
06:42:34PM SEVERAL YEARS, 2022 THROUGH 2021, THEY HAVE FOUR MEMBERS WHO
06:42:39PM MAKE OVER $100,000.
06:42:40PM THEIR CEO MAKES OVER $150,000.
06:42:43PM THEY HAVE SEVERAL BUDGETS SIMILAR TO WHAT FACING NOW WITH
06:42:48PM THE BUDGETING CRISIS.
06:42:50PM SEVERAL ONES THAT THEY CAN REFORM AND MAKE PLENTY OF MONEY
06:42:54PM TO TAKE BETTER CARE OF THE ANIMALS AND THEY ARE CHOOSING TO
06:42:57PM PUT THE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS.
06:42:58PM A WEB SITE CALLED PROPUBLICA THAT DOES AN FANTASTIC JOB OF
06:43:06PM OUTLINING WHERE THE BUDGETS ARE AND WHERE IT IS GOING FOR
06:43:08PM THEIR ADMIN GUYS AND I HAD ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT
06:43:12PM IT AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU THE LINK INCLUDING TO
06:43:16PM THE LINKS OF THE IRS FORMS THAT ARE ALL PUBLIC RECORD.
06:43:20PM WE ASK THAT YOU ASSESS THE MONEY GONE TO THEM THE $11,000 TO
06:43:24PM LOOK AT THE MANY OTHER RESCUES THAT DO AMAZING WORK HERE IN
06:43:27PM TAMPA THAT NEED THAT MONEY.
06:43:28PM THE HUMANE SOCIETY CLEARLY HAS ENOUGH AND ARE CHOOSING TO DO
06:43:33PM THE WRONG ACTIONS WITH IT.
06:43:34PM THANK YOU.
06:43:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:43:35PM [APPLAUSE]
06:43:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
06:43:39PM >> DONOVAN PULLAM.
06:43:42PM I LIVE IN HARBOUR ISLAND, AND I HAVE A WEB SITE.
06:43:45PM WE WENT AGAINST THE CITY PREVIOUS COUNCIL AND I AM GLAD TO
06:43:49PM SEE THE INDEPENDENCE FROM THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO CITY
06:43:52PM COUNCIL.
06:43:52PM I HAVE PROPERTIES I BOUGHT IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA THAT I
06:43:56PM RENT OUT, AND I TRY TO FOCUS ON PEOPLE WHO ARE RECENT LEAP
06:44:01PM DIVORCED, MOTHERS WITH KIDS, YOUNG START-UPS TO MAKE SURE IN
06:44:05PM A SAFE SECURE AREA.
06:44:08PM THIS WILL HAPPEN ON THE TAX INCOME.
06:44:10PM ON THIS PROPERTY THE PROPERTY TAX THAT I PASS ON $1500.
06:44:14PM ON THIS ONE $11 2.
06:44:16PM THIS ONE, $1046.
06:44:19PM THIS ONE 1112.
06:44:22PM THIS ONE $1,000.
06:44:23PM THIS ONE $700.
06:44:25PM THESE ARE THE TYPES OF FEE THERE IS A THAT I HAVE TO
06:44:28PM SOMEWHERE GET SOMEWHERE ELSE IN HO UP 20% TO 80% BECAUSE OF
06:44:35PM THE BUILDING COLLAPSE DOWN IN SURFSIDE THAT PUSHED UP
06:44:38PM INSURANCE BECAUSE OF OTHER THINGS.
06:44:39PM ALL THOSE COSTS KEEP ADDING UP.
06:44:41PM THE DOWNSIDE, WHEN PEOPLE STOP INVESTIGATING IN THIS
06:44:46PM COMMUNITY BECAUSE TOO EXPENSIVE AND TOO MANY TAXES AND TAX
06:44:49PM BURDENS, LIKE CALIFORNIA, WHERE THERE ARE NO NO NEW
06:44:53PM DEVELOPMENTS OR PROPERTIES BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO BUILD
06:44:55PM PROPERTIES AND CREATES A WORSE PROBLEM THAN WHAT IS
06:44:58PM HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
06:44:58PM THIS TAX IS GOING UP -- IF YOU TAKE A CALCULATION AND SPREAD
06:45:01PM IT OUT ALL OTHER THINGS.
06:45:02PM FIRST OF ALL, THE PROPERTY WAS ASSESSED UP BY 10% AVERAGE
06:45:06PM PROPERTY.
06:45:06PM 10% INCREASE IN THE MILLAGE.
06:45:09PM ON TOP OF THAT, THE SECTION FOR THE CITY MUNICIPAL FUND IS
06:45:13PM GOING UP BY 25%.
06:45:14PM MEANS THE MUNICIPAL FUND IS GOING UP BY 35%.
06:45:18PM GOT TO BE A LIMIT.
06:45:20PM THAT DRIVES INFLATION.
06:45:21PM THE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE TO CHARGE MORE WILL BE ASKING MORE
06:45:25PM AND A CYCLE AND CONTINUES AND CONTINUES AND CONTINUES.
06:45:27PM AND YOU GUYS ARE THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE TO STOP THAT.
06:45:30PM I AM NOT SAYING THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE REVENUE STRATEGIES.
06:45:34PM I RAN A COUNTRY -- A COMPANY THAT WAS OPERATING IN 75
06:45:37PM COUNTRIES, FACTORIES ON FOUR CONTINENTS.
06:45:40PM WE HAD TOUGH CHOICES TO MAKE.
06:45:42PM SOMETIMES WE DIDN'T LIKE THE CHOICES, BUT WE MADE THEM.
06:45:45PM ALSO IN THIS AREA, THE CITY NEEDS TO LOOK MORE AT HOW TO GET
06:45:48PM MORE JOBS INSTEAD OF SAYING HOW DO WE PROVIDE LOW INCOME
06:45:52PM HOUSING.
06:45:52PM HOW DO WE PROVIDE BETTER JOBS NOR MORE PEOPLE AND WHAT IS
06:45:56PM THE CITY DOING HERE TO WITHDRAW MORE BUSINESSES INTO THIS
06:45:59PM TOWN.
06:45:59PM RIGHT NOW WE ARE SIGHING WE ARE GOING TO SCARE YOU WITH A
06:46:02PM TAX.
06:46:02PM BUT THAT'S ALL WE ARE GOING TO DO.
06:46:04PM I THINK THAT IS BALONEY.
06:46:06PM THANKS A LOT.
06:46:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:46:08PM YES, MA'AM.
06:46:09PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:46:10PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
06:46:11PM >> GOOD EVENING.
06:46:12PM MY NAME IS LORRAINE PERRINO, A LIFETIME RESIDENT OF THE CITY
06:46:19PM OF TAMPA AND A THIRD-GENERATION RESIDENT.
06:46:21PM I URGE YOU ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SO TO VOTE AGAINST THE
06:46:25PM PROPOSED BUDGET.
06:46:26PM AS THE LADY STAYED BEFORE ME, THE STATE OF FLORIDA HAS THE
06:46:29PM HIGHEST RATE OF INFLATION IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
06:46:31PM HOMEOWNER INSURANCE IS UNAFFORDABLE.
06:46:33PM LAST YEAR MY HOMEOWNER INSURANCE INCREASED 700 AND LYNN
06:46:39PM CREASE AGAIN THIS YEAR.
06:46:39PM IN ADDITION TO THE INCREASE, MY HOMEOWNER INSURANCE WANTS ME
06:46:43PM TO INCREASE MY FLOOD INSURANCE TO MATCH THE SAME COVERAGE AS
06:46:47PM MY HOMEOWNERS.
06:46:48PM HOW MANY MORE HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS THAT COST.
06:46:51PM THE AUTO INSURANCE CARRIER BLANKET RATE INCREASE IN THE
06:46:55PM ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA AND TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO
06:46:59PM FLORIDA AND HAVING ACCIDENTS.
06:47:01PM HIGH IT RAISED BY $100.
06:47:04PM PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING HUGE INCREASES IN THEIR ELECTRIC
06:47:07PM BILLS BECAUSE OF EXTREME HEAT AND LACK OF COOLING SUMMER
06:47:11PM RAINS.
06:47:11PM HIGH FOOD PRICES ARE GASOLINE PRICES, HIGH SUE TILT BILLS.
06:47:16PM TO ALL OF THE HIGH COSTS THE MAYOR'S PLAN TO IMPOSE THE
06:47:19PM ADDITIONAL BURDEN OF INCREASING OUR PROPERTY TAXES.
06:47:23PM WHICH ONE OF THESE WILL BE THE STRAW TO BREAK THE CAMEL'S
06:47:26PM BACK?
06:47:27PM PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA ARE HURTING.
06:47:30PM PEOPLE IN TAMPA ARE HURTING .STATE GOVERNMENT HAS CREATED A
06:47:33PM PROPERTY INSURANCE PROBLEM.
06:47:34PM AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR FLORIDIANS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT
06:47:38PM MUST GIVE TAMPA RESIDENTS SOME RELIEF.
06:47:40PM TAMPA RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO BEAR THE BURDEN OF A
06:47:49PM MAJOR THAT CANNOT LIVE WITHIN HER CITY BUDGET.
06:47:51PM LIKE ALL OTHER TAMPA MAYORS HAVE IN PAST YEARS.
06:47:55PM HOW WE TAMPA RESIDENTS MUST LIVE WITHIN OUR BUDGET.
06:47:58PM THIS MAYORAL ADMINISTRATION HAS VERY EXPENSIVE PROPOSALS
06:48:02PM FROM THE VERY UNPOPULAR PURE WATER PROJECT THAT THANKFULLY
06:48:06PM TODAY HAVE FAILED THAT WOULD HAVE RAISED OUR MONTHLY WATER
06:48:09PM BILLS BY $100 TO A VERY EXPENSIVE NO BID $108 MILLION HAND
06:48:15PM FLORIDA STREET BUILDING PROJECT AND PROPOSED $1 BILLION-PLUS
06:48:21PM PROPOSED BUDGET WITH ONE MILLAGE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.
06:48:25PM AND THE AREA OF FRUSTRATION ANY THING THAT THE MAYOR WANTS
06:48:29PM TO ACCOMPLISH WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL IS ACCOMPLISHED
06:48:33PM LICKED TEE SPLIT.
06:48:35PM BUT WITH THE WISHES OF THE COMMUNITY, A DIFFERENT STORY.
06:48:37PM I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET A TREE -- A DONATED TREE IN THE
06:48:41PM AREA WHERE I LIVE.
06:48:42PM IT HAS BEEN DONATED BY ONE OF THE GARDEN CLUBS IN
06:48:47PM APPRECIATION FOR SOMETHING THAT THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION -- I
06:48:50PM HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THAT TREE PLANTED FOR TWO MONTHS.
06:48:53PM I HAVE WRITTEN TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
06:48:55PM I HAVE WRITTEN TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
06:48:58PM I WRITTEN TO MY CITY COUNCILMAN.
06:49:00PM I GET ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE.
06:49:03PM THE AREA WHERE I LIVE LOST 10% OF THE TREE CANOPY AND I
06:49:09PM CAN'T GET A TREE THAT WAS DONATED GET GARDEN CLUB TO GET
06:49:13PM PLANTED IN THE AREA THAT I LIVE.
06:49:15PM PLEASE, CITY COUNCIL, SPARE THE RESIDENTS OF CITY OF TAMPA
06:49:19PM THE ADDITIONAL UNNECESSARY TAX AND INSTEAD INSIST TO THE
06:49:23PM MAYOR SHE LIVE WITHIN HER BUDGET.
06:49:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:49:26PM AFTER WE FINISH THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE TO SPEAK IN THE ROOM
06:49:29PM NOW, WELL TAKE A RECESS TO BRING THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
06:49:32PM DOWNSTAIRS UP.
06:49:34PM I BELIEVE THERE ARE ABOUT 25 PEOPLE TO WISH TO SPEAK.
06:49:36PM YES, SIR, GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME.
06:49:38PM >> JACOB BURNELL, 21968 WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
06:49:45PM THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS.
06:49:47PM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU TODAY.
06:49:48PM I AM THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS DIRECTOR AT TAMPA REALTORS.
06:49:54PM WE REPRESENT OVER 17,000 REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS IN THE
06:49:57PM TAMPA BAY AREA.
06:49:58PM OUR ASSOCIATION UNDERSTANDS THAT A WELL MANAGED TAX BASE IS
06:50:05PM ESSENTIAL TO TAMPA'S FUTURE, BUT DECISIONS TO INCREASE TAXES
06:50:08PM SHOULD BE TRANSPARENT AND CONVEY THE CONSEQUENCES TO
06:50:11PM RESIDENTS.
06:50:12PM BEFORE CONSIDERING AN INCREASE, PERMANENT REDUCTIONS IN THE
06:50:17PM CITY'S SPENDING MUST BE IDENTIFIED.
06:50:19PM TAMPA IS THE ONLY CITY PROPOSING A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE IN
06:50:22PM ADDITION TO ITS LARGE TAX REVENUE FROM THE PAST TWO YEARS
06:50:25PM FROM 2021 TO 2022.
06:50:28PM MOST LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ARE LEAVING THE MILLAGE RATE THE
06:50:34PM SAME.
06:50:34PM ST. PETERSBURG IS EVEN CONSIDERING ROLLING BACK THEIRS.
06:50:37PM IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A 30% TAX
06:50:41PM INCREASE ON OWNER-OCCUPIED PROPERTIES.
06:50:44PM TAMPA IS ALREADY ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLACES TO LIVE.
06:50:47PM AND IT IS ACTUALLY -- FLORIDA IS THE MOST OVERVALUED HOUSING
06:50:51PM MARKET.
06:50:51PM NUMBER THREE IN THE NATION AS WELL.
06:50:52PM RECORD INFLATION, INCREASED GUYS AND PROPERTY INSURANCE
06:50:56PM CRISIS ARE MAKING IT VERY UNAFFORDABLE.
06:50:59PM WE BELIEVE IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR RESIDENTS.
06:51:03PM AND WE ENCOURAGE CITY COUNCIL TO REJECT THIS INCREASE.
06:51:07PM I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
06:51:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:51:12PM YES, SIR.
06:51:12PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:51:14PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
06:51:14PM >> YES, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
06:51:17PM MARCUS SCOTT IS MY NAME.
06:51:20PM THE OLDEST SON OF BISHOP THOMAS SCOTT, FORMER CITY COUNCIL
06:51:25PM MEMBER.
06:51:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME.
06:51:27PM >> I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE MILLAGE INCREASE, AND MY FATHER
06:51:30PM TOLD ME I COULD SAY HIS NAME THAT HE OPPOSES IT.
06:51:33PM AND EVERYBODY HAS MADE GOOD POINTS, INCLUDING THE MAYOR, BUT
06:51:37PM I JUST WANT TO TELL YOU A QUICK STORY SINCE THEY -- THEY
06:51:41PM GAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ALREADY.
06:51:42PM I OWN SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN THE EAST TAMPA AREA, AS WELL AS
06:51:45PM I LIVE THERE.
06:51:47PM ONE OF MY PROPERTIES THAT I RENT OUT IS TO A SENIOR WHO HAS
06:51:53PM TOLD ME SHE IS PAYING THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT SHE CAN, WHICH IS
06:51:58PM WELL UNDER THE RENTAL RATE.
06:52:00PM MY RENT IS VERY LOW.
06:52:01PM IF THE MILLAGE SIN CREASED, I WOULD HAVE TO GO UP ON HER.
06:52:05PM AND SHE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO STAY CURRENTLY.
06:52:09PM I WOULD HAVE ONE OR TWO OPTIONS.
06:52:10PM WOULD HAVE TO EITHER TELL HER SHE WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE
06:52:15PM THAT OR LEAVE OR ACCEPT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE INCREASE,
06:52:22PM WHICH I CAN AFFORD AT THIS TIME TO DO MYSELF.
06:52:26PM TO NOT PUT A SENIOR OUT OF ONE OF MY CURRENT PROPERTIES IN
06:52:32PM EAST TAMPA.
06:52:33PM THANK YOU.
06:52:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
06:52:35PM I WORK WITH YOUR FATHER FOR EIGHT YEARS AND I REALLY ENJOYED
06:52:38PM IT.
06:52:39PM I SAID I WORKED WITH YOUR FATHER RIGHT HERE FOR EIGHT YEARS
06:52:44PM AND I ENJOYED IT VERY MUCH.
06:52:46PM >> YES, SIR, YES, SIR.
06:52:47PM THANK YOU.
06:52:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:52:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
06:52:52PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO STATE YOUR NAME.
06:52:54PM >> WHERE I DO TALK, RIGHT HERE?
06:52:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES A MICROPHONE.
06:52:59PM >> I KNOW YOU AND YOU AND YOU.
06:53:01PM SO --
06:53:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.
06:53:05PM >> CHRISSY TAYLOR.
06:53:07PM I AM GOING TO GO VERBATIM WHAT I WROTE.
06:53:10PM ARE WE TRYING TO BE CALIFORNIA OR NEW YORK?
06:53:12PM ARE WE ACTIVELY WORKING TO MAKE US CALIFORNIA OR NEW YORK?
06:53:17PM BECAUSE WITH THIS HIGH TAX INCREASE, WE ARE GETTING THERE
06:53:20PM PRETTY QUICKLY.
06:53:20PM HIGH GASES, HIGH FOOD PRICES, HIGH HOME PRICES, AND NOW HIGH
06:53:25PM TAXES.
06:53:26PM AND TAXES MAKE SURE WE ARE WELL -- AND THESE HIGH TAXES JUST
06:53:30PM MAKE SURE WE ARE WELL ON OUR WAY TO THE FINAL NAIL IN THE
06:53:33PM COFFIN IN OUR WAY OF LIFE OF BEING TAXED JUST LIKE
06:53:35PM CALIFORNIA AND NEW YORK.
06:53:36PM AND THE FUNNY THING IS, TAXES NEVER, EVER GO BACK DO YOU
06:53:41PM KNOW.
06:53:41PM YOU KNOW WHAT INCREASES RENT?
06:53:43PM WHEN YOU RAISE TAXES ON HOMEOWNER.
06:53:46PM A FAIR QUESTION, JANE CASTOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL TO ABOUT
06:53:51PM BE PUNITIVE WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS.
06:53:53PM IF YOU THINK PRICES FOR RENTAL HOMES OF COMMUNITY
06:53:56PM DEVELOPMENT ARE HIGH NOW, WAIT UNTIL YOU INCREASE IT BY 30%
06:54:00PM AND HOW DO YOU DO THE OPPOSITE AND INCENTIVIZE HOMEOWNERS
06:54:05PM AND RENTER AS AND KEEP TAX LOWER.
06:54:09PM HOW YOU HELP COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT.
06:54:12PM NOT BY BUILDING OR TAXING YOUR WAY THROUGH IT, INCENTIVES
06:54:15PM FOR HOMEOWNER, LANDLORDS AND BUSINESSES.
06:54:18PM NO, YOUR ANSWER TO CRUSH TAMPANIANS FOR YOU NO THE TO NOPE
06:54:24PM HOW TO FISCALLY RUN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:54:26PM ALL OF THE PEOPLE CAN SEE THE TAX REVENUE FROM THE
06:54:30PM MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOMES, NEW CONDOS, BUSINESSES AND
06:54:33PM BUILDINGS AND NOT TO MENTION THE TAXES FOR THE ELECTRIC, THE
06:54:35PM GAS, THE WATER, THE GARBAGE, THE PHONE, THE CELL PHONE, THE
06:54:39PM INTERNET, THE REGISTRATION TAX, THE PROPERTY TAX, THE RETAIL
06:54:42PM TAX, RESTAURANT TAX, BUSINESS TAX, SALES TAX AND EVEN
06:54:47PM AIRLINE TAXES.
06:54:48PM WE ARE TIRED OF BEING OVERTAXED AND UNDERPAID.
06:54:50PM IF YOU SIGN OFF ON THESE RIDICULOUS TAXES.
06:54:54PM I WILL MAKE SURE THAT EVERY SINGLE CONSTITUENT KNOWS THAT
06:54:58PM YOU VOTE AND SIGNED ON THE TAX INCREASE AND MAKE IT MY SOLE
06:55:02PM MISSION THAT EVERYONE WHO VOTED FOR THAT TAX INCREASE WILL
06:55:06PM BE ELECTED OUT OF OFFICE.
06:55:07PM NO LONGER BE A CALIFORNIA OAR NEW YORK BUT THE CITY OF TAMPA
06:55:10PM THAT HAVE LEADERS THAT KNOW HOW TO FISCALLY RUN OUR CITY
06:55:14PM BUILDING OUR CITY UP AND NOT DOWN.
06:55:16PM WE DON'T LIVE UNDER THIS FLAG TO BE TAXED TO DEATH BY
06:55:20PM BUREAUCRATS.
06:55:20PM WE LIVE UNDER THIS FLAG UNDER A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC AND
06:55:23PM WE NEED TO START ACTING LIKE TAMPA.
06:55:25PM AND I PROMISED SANDY IS NOT HERE -- BUT THAT AUDIT DOES NEED
06:55:30PM TO BE DONE.
06:55:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:55:30PM [APPLAUSE]
06:55:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
06:55:35PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:55:36PM >> ELIZABETH OVERSTREET AT 13122 GREEN GAUGE LANE IN TAMPA.
06:55:41PM AND I'M ALSO HERE TO SPEAK OF THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND JUST
06:55:44PM SOME REAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE BUDGET ALLOCATION FOR THAT
06:55:48PM ORGANIZATION.
06:55:48PM I WANT TO ECHO WHAT OTHER FOLK HAVE SHARED, BUT FOR MYSELF,
06:55:53PM THREE MAIN REASONS WHY THIS IS REALLY CONCERNING TO ME.
06:55:56PM ONE IS, THEY SIMPLY DON'T NEED THAT MONEY.
06:55:59PM WITH ANNUAL REVENUE OF $13 MILLION, $11,000 IS REALLY A DROP
06:56:06PM IN THE BUCKET.
06:56:07PM THAT IS ONE.
06:56:08PM WHEN YOU COMPARE THEM TO LOOKING AT GUIDE STAR.
06:56:12PM THERE ARE 19 ORGANIZATIONS LISTED AS ANIMAL RESCUE HERE IN
06:56:16PM TAMPA THE NEXT HIGHEST ONE HAS A REVENUE OF ONLY $1.5
06:56:21PM MILLION.
06:56:21PM HUGE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE TOP-END NUMBER TOO.
06:56:25PM MY SECOND REASON IS -- I WANT TO SHARE I WORK IN LEADERSHIP
06:56:30PM FOR THE LARGEST GRANT-MAKING ORGANIZATION IN THE FEDERAL
06:56:33PM GOVERNMENT.
06:56:33PM SO I KNOW GRANTS.
06:56:34PM AND I KNOW A HUGE VALUE TO GRANTS IS WHEN THEY BUILD
06:56:38PM CAPACITY IN ORGANIZATIONS TO THEN BECOME SELF-SUSTAINING
06:56:41PM THEMSELVES AND FULFILL THAT MISSION.
06:56:43PM THAT IS A GOOD INVESTMENT OF OUR TAX DOLLARS.
06:56:46PM AND I WAS GLAD WITH MISS LYON THAT YOU WILL HOPEFULLY
06:56:50PM CONTACT HER AND OTHERS.
06:56:51PM I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
06:56:53PM OTHERS ARE.
06:56:54PM BUT I BELIEVE THAT MONEY COULD BE BETTER SPENT FOR OTHER
06:56:58PM ORGANIZATIONS AND BUILD THEIR CAPACITY.
06:57:00PM AND THE THIRD REASON IS SIMPLY, I BELIEVE WITH THE HUMANE
06:57:05PM SOCIETY'S CURRENT ACTIONS OF LATE, THEY REALLY HAVE BROKEN
06:57:10PM TRUST WITH THE PUBLIC IN NOT FULFILLING THEIR MISSION.
06:57:13PM UNTIL I THINK THERE IS A CHANGE IN THEIR LEADERSHIP AND
06:57:16PM THEIR BOARD TAKES RESPONSIBILITY NOT JUST FOR ITS 40 KITTENS
06:57:20PM BUT IF YOU GOOGLE IN THE PRESS, THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED,
06:57:23PM THEY HAVE JUST NOT BEEN RESPONSIBLE TO THEIR MISSION.
06:57:26PM SO UNTIL THEIR BOARD ADDRESSES THAT, I HOPE YOU ALL WILL
06:57:30PM FIND A BETTER ORGANIZATION TO ALLOCATE THAT MONEY, TO STILL
06:57:33PM MEET A VERY IMPORTANT NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY IN TAKING CARE
06:57:36PM OF THESE ANIMALS.
06:57:37PM SO THANK YOU.
06:57:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:57:39PM [ APPLAUSE ]
06:57:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
06:57:43PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:57:44PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:57:46PM NATHAN HAGAN.
06:57:47PM A VOLUNTEER LEADER WITH THE GROUP NIMBY TAMPA.
06:57:54PM AND I'M HERE ADVOCATING HOUSING ALL THE TIME AND I WILL HERE
06:58:00PM TO ADVOCATE FOR HOUSING TONIGHT.
06:58:02PM TWO NUMBERS.
06:58:03PM $56 MILLION AND $45 MILLION.
06:58:06PM TRANSPORTATION, YOU ALONG WITH THE MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS IN
06:58:09PM TAMPA SUPPORTED A TAX THAT WOULD HAVE RAISED $56 MILLION PER
06:58:14PM YEAR JUST TO SPEND ON TRANSPORTATION IN THE CITY.
06:58:16PM THIS IS IGNORING $100-PLUS MILLION ANNUALLY THAT THE CITY
06:58:22PM WILL DIRECTLY BENEFIT FROM THE APPLICATION AND RAISE BY
06:58:26PM TAXES THAT TAMPA RESIDENTS VOTED TO IMPOSE ON THEM SELVES.
06:58:29PM THIS IS MILLIONS OF DOLLARS MORE THAN WHAT THE MILLAGE RATE
06:58:32PM ASKS FOR.
06:58:32PM AND JUST FOR TRANSPORTATION.
06:58:34PM IF YOU SUPPORT AFT, IT IS BECAUSE YOU RIGHTLY UNDERSTOOD
06:58:41PM THERE WAS A REVENUE PROBLEM.
06:58:42PM WE ARE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS BEHIND ON TRANSPORTATION
06:58:45PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
06:58:45PM THAT WE NEED TO RAISE REVENUES.
06:58:48PM THAT IS JUST FOR TRANSPORTATION.
06:58:49PM BUT THERE IS A NEED TO RAISE REVENUE JUST TO MEET THE NEEDS
06:58:53PM OF OUR COMMUNITY.
06:58:54PM IF YOU ENDORSED AFT, YOU UNDERSTAND THAT ALREADY.
06:58:57PM IF YOU BELIEVE TAMPA HAS A ROLE IN FUNDING TRANSPORTATION --
06:59:02PM OR TRANSPORTATION FUTURE, ALL I CAN DO IS REMIND YOU WE ARE
06:59:05PM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS DESIGNED AND THE CIT WILL NOT REPLACE
06:59:08PM THE ATF AND THE ATF IS DEAD FOR DECADE OR MORE.
06:59:14PM CIT IS NOT THE REPLACEMENT FOR AFT.
06:59:19PM CITY NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF ITSELF AND RAISE REVENUES.
06:59:23PM NO ONE ELSE TO COME TO SAVE US.
06:59:25PM WE MAY HAVE A MAJORITY ANTI-TAX MAJORITY IN THE COUNTY
06:59:31PM PERMANENTLY AND WE NEED TO WATCH OUT FOR OURSELVES HERE IN
06:59:35PM THE CITY.
06:59:35PM HERE IS ANOTHER NUMBER, $8 BILLION, WITH A "B."
06:59:39PM THIS IS AN ESTIMATE OF THE CASH REQUIRED TO GET US OUT OF
06:59:42PM THE WAY OF THE HOUSING CRISIS.
06:59:44PM IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THE CITY HAS RESPONSIBILITY TO ADDRESS
06:59:47PM HOMELESSNESS FOR PEOPLE FACING HOUSING INSERT, WHAT YOU ARE
06:59:51PM UP AGAINST, $8 BILLION.
06:59:54PM A REVENUE PROBLEM.
06:59:55PM WE ARE NOT GOING TO RAISED 8 BILLION, BUT RAISE SOME AND
06:59:58PM HELP SOME PEOPLE AT THE VERY BOTTOM TO HELP WITH CASH.
07:00:02PM IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO SERIOUSLY DENY THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A
07:00:08PM REVENUE PROBLEM.
07:00:09PM WE CAN FIGHT ALL WE WANT ABOUT ALLOCATION, BUT WHERE HE
07:00:12PM SHOULD BE UNITED AROUND THAT.
07:00:14PM TAKE THE ONE MILL.
07:00:15PM WE NEED IT.
07:00:16PM REJECT THE BUDGET 100 TIMES UNTIL WE GET THE ALLOCATIONS
07:00:20PM RIGHT.
07:00:20PM I DISAGREE WITH THE ALLOCATION, A BIGGER SLICE OF PIE FOR
07:00:24PM HOUSING AND WE NEED A BIGGER PIE SO THE SLICE FOR HOUSE
07:00:27PM ASKING BE AS BIG AS POSSIBLE.
07:00:29PM WE HAVE A UNFATHOMABLE SHORTFALL ON TRANSPORTATION AND
07:00:34PM HOUSING AND DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE THROW UP OUR HANDS AND STOP
07:00:37PM INVESTING IN THE COMMUNION.
07:00:38PM KEEP THE MILLAGE, $40 MILLION TO HOUSING.
07:00:43PM THERE ARE SOLUTIONS.
07:00:44PM WE NEED MORE REVENUE.
07:00:46PM THANK YOU.
07:00:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:00:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. HAGAN, WHAT IS THE RED RIBBON FOR.
07:00:53PM I HAVE TO ASK.
07:00:54PM >> THIS IS FOR ROBIN.
07:00:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
07:01:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
07:01:04PM >> KEELA McCASKILL.
07:01:06PM GOOD EVENING.
07:01:07PM I'M HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET AND THE MILLAGE
07:01:11PM INCREASE.
07:01:11PM I DON'T ENVY ANY OF YOU TONIGHT.
07:01:13PM THIS IS ONE OF WHERE YOU ARE MOST IMPORTANT ROLES BUT IT IS
07:01:16PM CRITICAL.
07:01:17PM THE PAST FEW WEEKS THE COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER TO DISCUSS
07:01:19PM THE BUDGET, MILLAGE INCREASE, WHAT SHOULD WE DO, THE
07:01:22PM SENIORS.
07:01:23PM WE WENT EVERYWHERE.
07:01:24PM TRYING TO DO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
07:01:26PM NOT UNTIL I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE MAY I DON'T REMEMBER
07:01:29PM THANKING HERE PUBLICLY FOR HER TIME LAST NIGHT.
07:01:33PM LAST MINUTE PUSHED FOUR N INFORMATION.
07:01:36PM AS I WANT TO ASK HER DIRECTLY BEFORE WE CAME AND DISCUSS IT
07:01:40PM FURTHER ON YESTERDAY AND BEFORE TONIGHT.
07:01:41PM BUT I FOUND OUT WE NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND WE
07:01:44PM HAVEN'T REALLY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS WITH HER
07:01:47PM IN THE COMMUNITY AS I SHOULD HAVE.
07:01:48PM I FEEL LIKE IT IS ALMOST LIKE A RUSH JOB.
07:01:50PM I AM SURE WE ALL HEAR THAT TAMPA IS ONE OF THE GREATEST
07:01:53PM CITIES TO LIVE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
07:01:55PM TO ME, THAT MEANS WE NEED TO APPROACH THIS MATTER AS IF WE
07:01:59PM ARE THE LEADERS IN THIS -- IN THIS WHOLE THING.
07:02:02PM THE WAY WE DO THIS COULD HELP OTHER CITIES MAKE A DECISION
07:02:05PM WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR TIME TO BE GREAT OR MAKE DECISION
07:02:09PM REGARDING A BUDGET.
07:02:10PM I WANT TO YOU SAY NO UNTIL WE HAVE A THIRD-PARTY AUDIT.
07:02:13PM I JUST BELIEVE THAT NONE OF US WILL SPEND OUR MONEY AND
07:02:17PM INCREASE ANYTHING WITHOUT SEEING WHERE WE MAY BE ABLE TO CUT
07:02:19PM BACK.
07:02:20PM TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE MAY BE MAKING BAD DECISIONS WHERE
07:02:24PM THERE ARE SURPLUS DOLLARS.
07:02:25PM UNTIL YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY HAVE AN OUTSIDE INDEPENDENT
07:02:29PM COUNCIL WITH THE RIGHT CREDENTIALS AND RIGHT RATINGS TO SAY
07:02:33PM THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITIES AND CUT BACK.
07:02:35PM I ALSO WANT TO SEE US IMPLEMENT A PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEE.
07:02:38PM I BELIEVE THAT THE PEOPLE MAKING THE CITY GREAT, GROWING THE
07:02:41PM CITY THEY HAVE DONE IT.
07:02:42PM THEY ALREADY THOUGH THEIR PAIN.
07:02:44PM THE WORD IS OUT, THE TAMPA HAS THE LEAST GUYS WHEN IT
07:02:48PM RELATES TO DEVELOPMENT.
07:02:48PM HAVE THEM CHECK IN, QUARTER OF A MILLION, A MILLION, A HALF,
07:02:52PM IT CONTRIBUTES AND EVERY DOLLAR HELPS.
07:02:54PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOUSING HAVE A COMMITMENT TO ADDRESS THE
07:02:57PM HOUSING NEED, THE CRISIS WE ARE IN.
07:03:01PM A COMMITMENT FIVE YEARS OR BETTER FOR HOUSING WITHOUT THE
07:03:04PM BUDGET INCREASE OR THE MILLAGE RATE INCREASE.
07:03:06PM I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD HAVE AN ALLOCATED AMOUNT OF MONEY
07:03:09PM LAST I WANT TO SEE COLLABORATION -- PEOPLE ARE BEING HIT
07:03:13PM WITH TAXES.
07:03:14PM INFLATION.
07:03:15PM EVERYTHING HAPPENING.
07:03:16PM IN THE MAJOR CITIES, THE BUDGET IS FINITE, BUT THE MAYORS
07:03:20PM HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS.
07:03:22PM WE KNOW PEOPLE ARE BEING TAXED.
07:03:24PM WE KNOW EVERYTHING IS GOING UP.
07:03:26PM AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET WITH TAMPA ELECTRICAL TO HELP PEOPLE
07:03:30PM WITH WEATHERIZATION.
07:03:31PM MAYBE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND ENERGY CONSERVATION.
07:03:34PM ALL OF THAT.
07:03:35PM SOLID WASTE -- THE WATER DEPARTMENT HAS OPPORTUNITIES.
07:03:38PM COLLABORATIVE EFFORTS TO HELP THE CITIZENS SO THEY DON'T SEE
07:03:42PM THIS JUST AS A MONEY GRAB.
07:03:43PM ALL OF US ARE IN THIS TOGETHER AND TO WORK TOWARD DOING
07:03:47PM SOMETHING GREAT.
07:03:47PM WE CAN DO SOMETHING SPECIAL COLLECTIVELY.
07:03:50PM WE CAN COLLABORATE AND BE THE GREATEST.
07:03:53PM WE ARE ALREADY THE GREATEST.
07:03:55PM FORBES SAID THIS.
07:03:57PM I AM NOT SAYING, NO, WE DON'T NEED IT.
07:04:00PM BUT WE DON'T EITHER.
07:04:01PM WE DON'T KNOW IF THE CFO DIDN'T HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
07:04:06PM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT.
07:04:07PM SAY NO, AND LET'S FIND A WAY SAY YES IF WE SHOULD NEED IT.
07:04:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:04:14PM YES, MA'AM.
07:04:14PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
07:04:15PM >> GOOD EVENING.
07:04:17PM MY NAME IS MARY CAMPANELLO AND THE DIRECTOR OF CAN DO
07:04:23PM SPORTS.
07:04:23PM THE LOCAL NOT-FOR-PROFIT TO HAVE EVERY YOUTH TO EXCEL.
07:04:30PM I AM HONORED TO SAY WE HAVE BEEN A PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF
07:04:33PM TAMPA FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS.
07:04:34PM OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT
07:04:37PM ALLOW US TO UTILIZE THE BEST FACILITIES OFFERING INSTRUCTION
07:04:41PM AND GUIDANCE WITH THOUSANDS OF YOUTH ATHLETES.
07:04:44PM COMPREHENSIVE FIVE GYMNASTICS AND DANCE WITH AT TWO
07:04:48PM LOCATIONS AND FEEDER LIST OF SIX MONDAYS TO TWO YEARS.
07:04:51PM THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT, WE HAVE
07:04:54PM EXPANDED OUR PROGRAMS TO INCLUDE BASKETBALL, SOFTBALL AND
07:04:57PM ROWING.
07:04:57PM SPORTS, AS MANY.
07:04:58PM US KNOW, ARE EXPENSIVE.
07:05:00PM AS A MOM OF TWO BOYS INVOLVED IN MULTIPLE SPORTS I QUICKLY
07:05:03PM LEARNED HOW EXPENSIVE.
07:05:04PM THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE CAN
07:05:07PM PROVIDE COMPETITIVE OPPORTUNITIES A FRACTION OF THE COST
07:05:10PM COMPARED TO PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS.
07:05:13PM I GROUP IN THIS PROGRAM MYSELF AND THE OLDEST OF FIVE
07:05:16PM SIBLINGS, MAY NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY COMPETE AS A HIGH
07:05:19PM LEVEL GYMNASTS ANYWHERE ELSE.
07:05:21PM OUR PARENT VOLUNTEER LOGGED 5200 HOURS TO OUR PROGRAM MAKING
07:05:26PM SURE RESOURCE GOES DIRECTLY TO OUR ATHLETES.
07:05:28PM WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND.
07:05:29PM WE WANT TO ADD MORE ATHLETES TO OUR PROGRAM.
07:05:32PM ADD NEW SPORTS GIVING MORE YOUTH THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET
07:05:34PM INVOLVED IN SOMETHING POSITIVE.
07:05:36PM HOWEVER, HOW ARE WE ABLE TO GROW IF NOT ADDITIONAL STAFF TO
07:05:41PM HELP FACILITATE THE INCREASE IN YOUTH WANTING TO GET
07:05:45PM INVOLVED.
07:05:45PM HOW WE CAN OFFER THE VERY BEST WITHOUT UPDATES AND
07:05:49PM IMPROVEMENTS TOP YOUR CURRENT FACILITY AND PROGRAMS.
07:05:52PM OUR YOUTH ARE OUR FUTURE.
07:05:55PM IF WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF, SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM, WHERE
07:05:59PM DO THEY GO.
07:05:59PM WHERE DO THE FAMILIES SEND THEIR CHILD IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD
07:06:03PM A PRIVATE STUDIO.
07:06:04PM THE PROPOSED MILLAGE INCREASE WILL HELP PROGRAMMING FOR OUR
07:06:09PM YOUTH AND CURRENT PROGRAMMING FOR OUR FACILITIES AND PARKS.
07:06:12PM THIS IS DO VOTED DOWN.
07:06:14PM I ASK FOR A COMPROMISE, COLLABORATING AND WORKING TOGETHER
07:06:17PM FIND A WAY TO ALLOW FOR THESE PROGRAMS TO GET WHAT THEY NEED
07:06:20PM BY NOT CUTTING ANY ADDITIONAL STAFFING.
07:06:23PM IF THERE IS NO SUPPORT TO CREATE THESE OPPORTUNITIES, I AM
07:06:26PM AFRAID ORGANIZATIONS LIKE MINE WON'T BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN.
07:06:29PM WE NEED ADDITIONAL STAFFING, QUALITY PROGRAMMING AND CENTERS
07:06:34PM FOR OUR YOUTH.
07:06:34PM TOGETHER I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO OFFER EVERY CHILD AN
07:06:38PM OPPORTUNITY TO SUCCEED ON AND OFF THE FIELD.
07:06:40PM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND THE ABILITY TO TALK OF
07:06:43PM OUR ORGANIZATION WITH YOUTH.
07:06:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:06:49PM YES, MA'AM.
07:06:50PM >> GOOD EVENING, NOREEN COPELAND MILLER.
07:06:54PM I LIVE -- I AM PROPERTY OWNER IN BELMONT HEIGHTS FOR OVER 30
07:06:59PM YEARS.
07:06:59PM AND I WAS LOOKING AT THIS BUDGET -- I AM SURE YOU ALL ARE
07:07:02PM GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION FOR OUR
07:07:06PM COMMUNITY.
07:07:06PM AND I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT EAST
07:07:10PM TAMPA IS GOING TO REALLY BENEFIT FROM ALL OF THIS.
07:07:12PM I WANT TO BE REAL CLEAR.
07:07:14PM I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT BELMONT HEIGHTS AND THAT IS
07:07:18PM IN THAT AREA, BUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS IN THAT
07:07:21PM AREA.
07:07:21PM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BELMONT HEIGHTS HAVE SEEM TO BE FORGOTTEN
07:07:28PM A LOT AND DON'T HAVE THE SIMPLE THINGS.
07:07:30PM WHATEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO, YOU WILL DO THE RIGHT THING FOR
07:07:33PM THE COMMUNITY.
07:07:33PM I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO GET SOMETHING DONE
07:07:36PM IN BELMONT HEIGHTS.
07:07:39PM AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE WANT DONE.
07:07:42PM SOME THINGS SIMPLE TO SAY WELCOME TO BELMONT HEIGHTS.
07:07:48PM WELCOME TO HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
07:07:51PM WE ARE PROUD OF OUR COMMUNITY.
07:07:52PM UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE NOT SEEN BENEFITS FROM ANY THE TAXES
07:07:56PM THAT WE RAISED.
07:07:56PM WHATEVER YOU ALL DO, PLEASE REMEMBER US.
07:07:59PM AND I DON'T HAVE TO TELL YOU WHO RIDE THROUGH THE
07:08:04PM NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALK ABOUT.
07:08:06PM PER FORGOTTEN.
07:08:08PM IT IS GROWING BUT NOT FOR US IN BELMONT HEIGHTS.
07:08:11PM PLEASE REMEMBER TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND GIVE US SOME OF
07:08:14PM THE SMALL THINGS WE ARE ASKING FOR.
07:08:15PM AND CYRUS GREEN PARKS SHOULD BE UPGRADED.
07:08:20PM A REUNION AND A NICE FACILITY AND NO POWER OUTLETS OUTSIDE.
07:08:24PM NO CANOPY FOR THE KIDS.
07:08:26PM NOTHING.
07:08:26PM SHELTER IS -- ALL OF THAT, WE HAVE UPGRADES IN THE BELMONT
07:08:33PM HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:08:33PM WE HAVE UPGRADES FOR THE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY IN BELMONT
07:08:38PM HEIGHTS.
07:08:38PM WE WANT TO SECURE THAT CEMETERY AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE
07:08:41PM FENCING.
07:08:42PM WE HAVE SIGNAGE AND WE WANT TO BE VERY PROUD OF THAT AREA.
07:08:45PM YOU -- THE CITY IS DOING SOME THINGS TO HELP US AND WE
07:08:49PM APPRECIATE IT, BUT SO MUCH MORE TO BE DONE.
07:08:52PM WE WANT TO BE PART OF THAT.
07:08:53PM WHATEVER YOU DO WITH THIS BUDGET, PLEASE DON'T FORGET THE
07:08:57PM BELMONT HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:08:58PM ALSO WE WANT SOME CURB APPEAL.
07:09:00PM ONCE YOU COME DOWN 22nd STREET AND THE CITY OWNS THAT STREET
07:09:06PM NORTH OF INTERSTATE HEADED TO HILLSBOROUGH, IT'S -- IT IS
07:09:11PM DISGRACEFUL.
07:09:12PM I CAN'T SAYS IT SAD, BUT SO MUCH TO BE SAID ABOUT CURB
07:09:15PM APPEAL.
07:09:16PM PLEASE DO SOMETHING.
07:09:17PM ALSO WHEN WE COME DOWN TO CHELSEA AND 22nd STREET ON THAT
07:09:22PM CORNER.
07:09:22PM BIG RETENTION POND OR STORMWATER DRAIN OR WHATEVER YOU CALL
07:09:27PM IT.
07:09:27PM PUT A CIRCULATOR OR WATER PUMP TO NOT LET THE TRASH GATHER
07:09:31PM UP IN THERE.
07:09:31PM ALTHOUGH THEY CLEAN IT ONCE A MONTH, THAT WATER WAS MOVING
07:09:35PM CIRCULATING IT WILL BE BETTER APPEALING TO THE COMMUNITY.
07:09:40PM ALWAYS AS I ASKED FOUR OR FIVE YEARS OF SIDEWALKS IN EAST
07:09:44PM TAMPA, BECAUSE I WATCH THE PEOPLE FROM THE NURSING HOME
07:09:46PM RIDING THEIR SCOOTERS IN THE STREET.
07:09:49PM PUSHING THEIR WHEELCHAIRS ON THE STREET, WALKING ON THE
07:09:53PM STREETS, NO SIDEWALKS ON CHELSEA.
07:09:56PM NO SIDEWALKS.
07:09:56PM PLEASE IMPROVE OUR ROADS.
07:09:58PM MOST OF ALL, DON'T FORGET ABOUT BELMONT HEIGHTS.
07:10:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
07:10:02PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
07:10:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:10:05PM YES, SIR.
07:10:09PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
07:10:11PM CHAGRET DAWSON.
07:10:14PM IF YOU PASS THIS BUDGET, MAKE SURE IT HELPS THE MARGINALIZED
07:10:20PM AS WELL AS THE WELL OFF AT BARE MINIMUM AND THAT THE BUDGET
07:10:25PM REFLECTS THE DIVERSE NEEDS OF THE DIVERSE POPULATION.
07:10:28PM AND IF WE ARE GOING TO INCREASE FUNDING FOR PUBLIC SERVICE,
07:10:31PM LET'S MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC SERVICE ADEQUATELY SERVES THE
07:10:34PM PUBLIC, OKAY.
07:10:35PM SOME OF THE ISSUES ADDRESSED EARLIER LIKE INFLATION, CAR
07:10:40PM INSURANCE, PROPERTY INSURANCE, FOOD, PRICES, AND TEACHERS'
07:10:44PM SALARIES ARE COUNTY AND STATE ISSUES RESPECTFULLY.
07:10:48PM WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
07:10:49PM MANY OF THOSE ISSUES ARE ROOTED RIGHT THERE IN TALLAHASSEE,
07:10:53PM FLORIDA.
07:10:53PM STARTING WITH OUR GOVERNOR BUT I'M HERE OF THE SPECIFIC
07:11:04PM ISSUE WITH THE TAMPA PUBLIC RECORDS.
07:11:05PM MAYBE YOU CAN DIRECT THAT $11,000 TOWARD HELPING FALSELY
07:11:10PM ACCUSED INDIVIDUALS IN TAMPA RESIDENTS GET THEIR PUBLIC
07:11:14PM RECORDS REQUEST FULFILLED AND HELP ME IN THIS $10,000 BILL
07:11:18PM THAT YOU ALL WANT TO THROW AT ME.
07:11:19PM THIS IS FOR INFORMATION THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDED OVER ME
07:11:24PM THROUGH THE DISCOVERY PHASE OF THE CRIMINAL PROSECUTION.
07:11:26PM I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH OF THIS BUDGET IS DEDICATED TO TAMPA
07:11:29PM RESIDENTS LIKE MYSELF THAT HAD THEIR HOMES STOLEN DUE TO
07:11:34PM POLICE MISCONDUCT.
07:11:35PM TAMPA POLICE OFFICER MISCONDUCT.
07:11:38PM YOUNG PEOPLE IT IS IMPERATIVE -- I SEE A LOT OF OLDER PEOPLE
07:11:41PM LIKE MYSELF, THAT YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE POLL MAKES AFFECT
07:11:45PM LIVES ON DAILY BASIS.
07:11:47PM NOT JUST ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT DO IT IN PERSON.
07:11:50PM AND WE LIVE IN A TIME AND A PLACE WHERE THE GOVERNOR OF MY
07:11:53PM STATE, WHO ONCE CLAIMED THAT WE ARE A LAW AND ORDER STATE
07:11:57PM THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY TO NULLIFY THE VOTES OF PEOPLE IN
07:12:00PM HILLSBOROUGH AND ORLANDO COUNTY, FLORIDA.
07:12:03PM AND HE DID SO WITH IMPUNITY WHEN HE REMOVED TWO DULY-ELECTED
07:12:10PM STATE ATTORNEYS.
07:12:10PM AS A VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY, I AM DISGUSTED
07:12:13PM BY HIS BEHAVIOR.
07:12:14PM AS A BLACK MAN WHO IS THE SON OF RETIRED AIR FORCE PARENTS,
07:12:18PM BOTH MY MOTHER AND FATHER FROM GEORGIA AND ALABAMA, IT
07:12:21PM INSPIRES ME -- HOPEFULLY INSPIRES YOU YOUNG PEOPLE TO LOOK
07:12:24PM UP THE DOCUMENTARY "EYES ON THE PRIZE."
07:12:28PM THE YOUNG FOLKS, KNOW YOUR HISTORY AND PARTICIPATE IN
07:12:31PM CONTROLLING YOUR FUTURE, OKAY.
07:12:33PM BY THE WAY, SHOUT OUT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON
07:12:36PM HIGH SCHOOL.
07:12:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:12:40PM YES, MA'AM.
07:12:40PM >> GOOD EVENING.
07:12:42PM A LOT OF THINGS TO CONSIDER.
07:12:47PM GUESS WHAT I AM GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
07:12:49PM BECAUSE I THINK TREES NEED TO BE A HIGH PRIORITY ON THE
07:12:54PM CITY'S PROPOSED BUDGET.
07:12:56PM ONCE THEY ARE GONE, THEY ARE NOT COMING BACK.
07:12:58PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE BIG GRAND TREES.
07:13:01PM AS A MEMBER.
07:13:02PM OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH HAS NEVER
07:13:07PM MET YET, I'M HERE TO REQUEST THAT THERE BE ADEQUATE FUNDING
07:13:11PM FOR PERSONNEL, EQUIPMENT, AND MONITORING OUR CANOPY.
07:13:19PM INADEQUATE FUNDS HAVE NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES AS WE HAVE SEEN
07:13:22PM HERE TONIGHT.
07:13:23PM AND OUR GRAND TREES CONTINUE TO DISAPPEAR.
07:13:25PM EVEN THOUGH NO MORE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DISAPPEARING.
07:13:30PM HOWEVER, NRAC HAS NOT MET ON THIS ISSUE.
07:13:35PM AND I DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION ON THE DETAILS OF THE
07:13:38PM PROPOSED BUDGET TO UNDERSTAND IT.
07:13:41PM AND YOU MAY NOT EITHER.
07:13:43PM I DON'T KNOW.
07:13:44PM I JUST GOT IT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO.
07:13:46PM SO IT IS JUST 15 LINES OF INFORMATION WITH AN ITEM WITH A
07:13:54PM NUMBER.
07:13:54PM I LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING AND FINDING OUT MORE ABOUT TAMPA'S
07:13:58PM TREE -- HOW TAMPA'S TREES CAN BE PROACTIVELY MAINTAINED AND
07:14:03PM I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO PLEASE KEEP TAMPA'S TREES A HIGH
07:14:06PM PRIORITY ON THE BUDGET.
07:14:07PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:14:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:14:10PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, MAN.
07:14:11PM >> I DIDN'T SAY MY NAME?
07:14:15PM ALISON DATE.
07:14:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:14:18PM >> I THOUGHT YOU KNEW ME BY NOW.
07:14:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DO.
07:14:20PM BUT FOR THE RECORD.
07:14:21PM MR. HEDGES.
07:14:23PM >> GOOD EVENING.
07:14:24PM IT IS STILL EVENING, I KNOW IT IS.
07:14:27PM I APPRECIATE ALL YOU ALL LISTEN TO AND DO --
07:14:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR NAME SIR.
07:14:33PM >> BELIEVE ME I SAT BACK THERE.
07:14:36PM HARRY HEDGES.
07:14:37PM I LIVED IN TAMPA MANY YEARS, WELL OVER 50.
07:14:39PM MY NOTE TONIGHT STARTS WITH CATCHING UP.
07:14:43PM CATCHING UP.
07:14:45PM THAT IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
07:14:47PM WE ARE ABSOLUTELY CATCHING UP.
07:14:49PM IT IS HARD TO ASK PEOPLE THAT HAVE VOTED FOR YOU FOR MONEY.
07:14:57PM BUT WHEN YOU DECIDED TO BECOME CO-MANAGERS OF THIS CITY, YOU
07:15:02PM ELECTED TO I CAN MA THE HARD DECISIONS.
07:15:04PM AND ANY BUSINESS, WHICH WE ARE, THOSE HARD DECISIONS HAVE TO
07:15:11PM BE MADE.
07:15:11PM WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE BUDGET, AND THERE ARE MANY GOOD
07:15:17PM ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED IN THE BUDGET.
07:15:19PM WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF FRUSTRATION TONIGHT IN THE ECONOMY.
07:15:25PM PEOPLE ARE MOVING TO TAMPA IN DROVES.
07:15:28PM IN DROVES.
07:15:31PM WE NEED TO PUT INTO PLACE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
07:15:36PM IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HASN'T HAPPENED.
07:15:45PM YEARS AGO I REMEMBER SAYING -- HEARING, THIS IS GOING TO BE
07:15:48PM THE NEXT GREAT CITY.
07:15:49PM WELL, I DON'T KNOW OF A GREAT CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE MASS
07:15:54PM TRANSIT, WHERE DRIVING OUR CITY EMPLOYEES, MacDILL AIR FORCE
07:16:02PM BASE EMPLOYEES TO PASCO AND RIVERVIEW.
07:16:04PM WE NEED TO PUT MORE ATTENTION ON HOUSING.
07:16:08PM MY ROLE IN HOUSING FROM STATE TO REGION AND HERE WITH YOU
07:16:14PM HERE TONIGHT.
07:16:15PM THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN TWO YEARS -- FIRST TIME IN 16
07:16:20PM YEARS, BUT THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FULL
07:16:23PM FUNDING FROM THE STATE'S HOUSING TRUST FUND.
07:16:26PM WE ALSO GOT ANOTHER $700 MILLION FROM TALLAHASSEE THIS YEAR.
07:16:34PM THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED BEFORE.
07:16:36PM WE MUST LEVERAGE THOSE FUNDS.
07:16:38PM WE MUST USE THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
07:16:42PM AND I HATE TO KEEP GOING BACK TO CATCH UP, BUT THAT'S WHAT
07:16:46PM WE ARE DOING.
07:16:46PM WE DIDN'T PLAN TEN YEARS AGO FOR THE POPULATION NOW.
07:16:53PM WE DIDN'T PLAN 20 YEARS AGO FOR THE POPULATION WE HAD TEN
07:16:58PM YEARS AGO.
07:17:01PM I ASK TO YOU MAKE THE HARD DECISIONS.
07:17:03PM WE NEED THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
07:17:05PM AND WE NEED TO FOCUS ON OUR HOUSING STOCK.
07:17:09PM AND WE NEED TO DEVELOP MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IS
07:17:13PM WHERE OUR SERVICE PEOPLE NEED TO LIVE, CLOSE TO US. THEY MAY
07:17:19PM BE THE SMALLEST PAID, BUT THEY ARE HAVING TO TRAVEL THE
07:17:22PM FARTHEST.
07:17:23PM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
07:17:24PM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE CITY.
07:17:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
07:17:28PM >> YOU BET.
07:17:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STEPHANIE POYNOR.
07:17:32PM YOU ARE UP.
07:17:33PM YES, MA'AM.
07:17:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUCKLE UP.
07:17:37PM >> SORRY.
07:17:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
07:17:39PM >> I HAVE SOME HANDOUTS FOR COUNCIL.
07:17:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE TURN THE --
07:17:54PM >> SORRY.
07:17:55PM I AM GOING TO GET THERE.
07:17:56PM SO TODAY -- I HAVE TO PEAK IN THE MICROPHONE -- LET'S GET
07:18:06PM THOSE PASSED OUT FIRST, PLEASE.
07:18:08PM YES.
07:18:17PM THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
07:18:20PM TAKE ONE AND PASS IT ON.
07:18:21PM IT IS A SKILL.
07:18:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MISS POYNOR, I SEE SCRIBBLES OF NAMES
07:18:34PM CROSSED OUT.
07:18:35PM LET ME SEE, IS BOBBY J. CURRIE STILL HERE.
07:18:41PM >> THE ONES THAT ARE SCRIBBLED OUT, THEY ARE GONE.
07:18:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SHE WASN'T TOTALLY SCRIBBLED OUT.
07:18:47PM DANA JASPER.
07:18:48PM THANK YOU.
07:18:48PM SHERRY ELMAN, THANK YOU.
07:18:51PM AND ARLENE FRANCIS WASHINGTON.
07:18:54PM THANK YOU.
07:18:54PM THREE ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF SIX.
07:18:57PM >> OKAY.
07:19:00PM GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:19:01PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
07:19:04PM I AM A MEMBER OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.
07:19:05PM I WANTED TO DISCLOSE THAT.
07:19:08PM SORRY THAT THE LAST MAN DIDN'T DISCLOSE HIS AFFILIATION WITH
07:19:12PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
07:19:14PM HE IS A VOLUNTEER AS WELL.
07:19:15PM TODAY RECEIVED THE TOP PAGE WITH THE NICE EVERYTHING
07:19:21PM RAINBOW-COLORED AND I BLEW THIS SHEET UP AND MADE IT INTO
07:19:24PM ONE LITTLE THING SO ALL THE FOLKS WHO COULD BE HERE COULD
07:19:27PM SEE THIS.
07:19:28PM BECAUSE WE HAVE ASKED -- THE BUDGET COMMITTEE ASKED,
07:19:31PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON ASKED, WHERE DID THE MONEY GO THAT WAS
07:19:34PM PUT IN THE BUDGET.
07:19:35PM THIS E-MAIL WAS SENT TO ME THIS AFTERNOON BY MR. ROGERO.
07:19:39PM SO WHAT WE ARE -- WE ARE LOOKING AT THESE POTS OF MONEY.
07:19:42PM AND I WANT TO BE THE FIRST PERSON TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW, WE
07:19:45PM HAVE GOT ALL THESE FOLKS HERE WITH RED RIBBONS ON.
07:19:48PM THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOUSING.
07:19:49PM WE HAVE MONEY FOR HOUSING WITHOUT THE MILLAGE INCREASE.
07:19:53PM DON'T TELL A STORY TO SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW ANY BETTER.
07:19:57PM NOW, HERE IS THE PROBLEM.
07:19:59PM THIS IS WHERE ALL THE MONEY FOR THE BUDGET INCREASE WENT TO.
07:20:05PM OKAY.
07:20:05PM THEY HAVE DUMPED IT EITHER STRATEGICALLY OR LACKADAISICALLY,
07:20:11PM I DON'T KNOW, INTO THESE ACCOUNTS.
07:20:12PM HERE IS $300,000, BUT THEY DUMPED INTERESTED INTO A BOWL OF
07:20:17PM SOUP WITH $113 MILLION IN IT.
07:20:19PM NOW WHERE IS THAT $30,000 GOING TO BE SPENT?
07:20:23PM I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE I CAN'T DIG INTO THAT.
07:20:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE 300,000.
07:20:27PM >> OPERATING BUDGET FOR PARKS AND REC.
07:20:30PM YOU LOOK, THEY ARE GREEN.
07:20:31PM ON THEIR SHEETS THEY ARE GREEN TOO.
07:20:34PM WE HAVE GOT $2.9 MILLION FOR PARKS AND REC AND OPERATE.
07:20:39PM BUT DUMPING INTO THE POT OF $113 MILLION.
07:20:41PM NOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DIG THE
07:20:46PM CARROTS OUT, TO OKAY, THAT $30000, THAT IS DIGGING THE
07:20:51PM GARLIC OUT OF THE SOUP.
07:20:52PM I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PULL OUT WHAT THEY ARE SPENDING THE
07:20:55PM MONEY ON.
07:20:55PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR TO BEGIN WITH.
07:20:59PM WHAT REALLY CONCERNS ME -- A COUPLE OF THIS THINGS CONCERN
07:21:02PM ME.
07:21:03PM THIS IS THE MONEY FOR THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.
07:21:04PM THIS IS NO JOKE, FOLKS.
07:21:06PM THEY HAVE ONLY SET ASIDE OUT OF THAT MONEY -- THAT $42
07:21:11PM MILLION -- $7.2 MILLION.
07:21:13PM NOW LAST YEAR, MIND YOU -- AND THEY GOT 12.
07:21:18PM YOU GUYS HAVE THE SHEET.
07:21:20PM FLIP IT TO THE PURPLE SHEET.
07:21:22PM BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, THIS YEAR WE ONLY FROM $7.2 MILLION
07:21:27PM ALLOCATED.
07:21:28PM NOW OUT OF THAT BUDGET INCREASE OF $42 MILLION.
07:21:31PM LET'S DO THIRD-GRADE MATH THERE, 42 DIVIDED BY FOUR
07:21:35PM DIFFERENT ENTITIES, PUBLIC SAFETY, PAVING, PARKS AND REC AND
07:21:40PM HOUSING.
07:21:41PM THAT MEANS SHOULD BE 10.5 PER EVERY ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
07:21:45PM WHERE IS IT?
07:21:47PM BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY 7.2.
07:21:49PM NOW THE NEXT THING I WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU, THAT FOUR OF
07:21:53PM THESE ARE RESERVE FUNDS.
07:21:54PM WHAT IS A RESERVE FUNDS?
07:21:56PM I NEED EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND A RESERVE FUND IS A SAVINGS
07:21:59PM ACCOUNT.
07:22:00PM IT IS A SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
07:22:01PM I AM SORRY.
07:22:02PM I WANT THESE FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND.
07:22:03PM THE RESERVE FUND IS A SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
07:22:07PM AND $22 MILLION OF THAT MONEY, THE $42 MILLION IS GOING TO
07:22:11PM GO IN A SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
07:22:12PM MIND YOU, I MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS, BUT
07:22:17PM I ONLY RECEIVED THIS E-MAIL AFTER LUNCH TODAY.
07:22:19PM AND GUESS WHAT?
07:22:21PM YOU GUYS DIDN'T GET THE E-MAIL.
07:22:22PM I SENT IT TO YOU.
07:22:23PM I FORWARD IT TO YOU.
07:22:25PM EVEN THOUGH YOU ASKED FOR IT.
07:22:27PM AND YOU WERE TOLD, NO, WE CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT WE DID WITH
07:22:31PM IT.
07:22:31PM SO, NEXT, LET'S TALK ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE.
07:22:36PM 30 POLICE, 30 FIRE.
07:22:40PM THEY ARE NOT IN THE BUDGET, FOLKS.
07:22:41PM YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT THE POLICE AND FIRE ARE IN THE
07:22:45PM BUDGET?
07:22:45PM YES, I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A GRANT, BUT DON'T -- DON'T WHEEL
07:22:51PM MY LEG AND TELL ME IT IS RAINING BECAUSE IT IS NOT THERE.
07:22:54PM I ALSO TODAY FOUND THIS NIFTY LITTLE DEPARTMENT.
07:22:58PM IT IS CALLED NONDEPARTMENTAL FUNDS.
07:23:01PM AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS?
07:23:04PM IT IS A LIST OF OUR DEBT.
07:23:06PM THE AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT WE HAVE.
07:23:08PM AND THIS -- THIS WHOLE CHART IS ASS-BACKWARDS, I AM SORRY.
07:23:13PM $178 MILLION.
07:23:16PM THAT'S WHY THEY NEED MONEY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORTGAGED US
07:23:19PM TO THE HILT.
07:23:21PM LET'S STOP TODAY.
07:23:22PM NEXT, LET'S TALK ABOUT PARKS AND REC BECAUSE MISS MILLER WAS
07:23:29PM UP HERE AND MENTIONED PARKS AND REC.
07:23:32PM I WAS VERY SUSPECT OF THIS PARKS AND REC.
07:23:35PM SHE SAID DIDN'T HAVE ANY ELECTRICAL IN HER PARK.
07:23:38PM BUT THIS YEAR, THEY ONLY SPENT 5% OF THE BUDGET FOR
07:23:42PM ELECTRICAL REPAIRS.
07:23:43PM WHERE IS THE REST OF THE MONEY?
07:23:45PM WHY ISN'T MISS MILLER'S PARK FIXED.
07:23:48PM I THINK THAT IS HER LAST NAME.
07:23:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COPELAND MILLER, YES.
07:23:54PM >> $600 MILLION MAINTENANCE BUDGET.
07:23:57PM 12% OF THAT WAS SPENT.
07:23:58PM WHERE DID THE REST OF THE MONEY GO?
07:24:01PM WHY ISN'T IT THERE?
07:24:03PM OH, YOU KNOW WHAT -- I TELL YOU WHAT, I FORGOT.
07:24:06PM I FORGOT THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.
07:24:08PM I AM LOOKING AT THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE NONDEPARTMENTAL -- IT
07:24:11PM HAS WENT UP --
07:24:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU PUT IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
07:24:14PM WE CAN'T SEE THE FIRST PART.
07:24:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO TO THE RIGHT.
07:24:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE YOU GO.
07:24:18PM >> THE NONDEPARTMENTAL WENT UP 858% SINCE 2021.
07:24:23PM GUESS WHAT?
07:24:24PM THAT IS ALL THE DEBT.
07:24:25PM I WAS LIKE, THAT -- THAT IS WHAT MADE ME LOOK AT TH
07:24:29PM NONDEPARTMENTAL.
07:24:30PM OKAY.
07:24:31PM PAVING.
07:24:31PM LET'S TALK ABOUT PAVING FOR A MINUTE.
07:24:33PM PAVING, $4.1 MILLION FROM 2021 TO 2028.
07:24:40PM WAIT, WAIT.
07:24:41PM MR. ROGERO SAID WE ARE GOING TO BOND IT.
07:24:45PM HOLD ON A SECOND.
07:24:46PM DO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT YOU WANT MY KIDS WHO ARE 14 AND
07:24:51PM 18 AND YOU WANT TO ADD TO BE THIS $178 MILLION WORTH OF DEBT
07:24:58PM AND YOU ARE ASKING ME TO PAY EXTRA TAXES ON TOP OF IT?
07:25:01PM AND YOU ARE TELLING USES THAT THERE IS NO MORE MONEY FOR
07:25:03PM HOUSING?
07:25:05PM QUICK PEEKING ON MY LEG AND TELL ME IT IS RAINING.
07:25:09PM QUIT IT.
07:25:09PM QUIT IT NOW.
07:25:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU WERE CORRECT ON THESE NUMBERS
07:25:13PM REGARDING THE $22 MILLION IS THE NUMBER YOU SHOWED FOR THE
07:25:16PM RESERVES.
07:25:17PM IT WAS WRITTEN -- WE WOULD HAVE THE MONEY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY
07:25:21PM AND MONEY FOR HOUSING.
07:25:23PM >> YOU ARE RIGHT.
07:25:24PM DING, DING, DING.
07:25:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALL THAT STUFF TO TALK TO YOU SOON.
07:25:26PM [APPLAUSE]
07:25:34PM >> TALK TO YOU SOON.
07:25:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MORRISON.
07:25:40PM >> GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
07:25:42PM I AM BOB MORRISON AND A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
07:25:45PM I'M HERE FOR THREE VERY PRECISE REASONS.
07:25:48PM NUMBER ONE, TO THANK YOU.
07:25:50PM BECAUSE YOUR ROLE IN THIS PROCESS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
07:25:56PM AND I AM APPRECIATIVE AS SO MANY ARE HERE TONIGHT WITH THE
07:26:00PM TIME YOU ARE TAKING TO LISTEN.
07:26:02PM AND TO TAKE IN INFORMATION.
07:26:03PM SECONDLY, IT IS FUNNY THAT MAYOR FREEMAN WAS HERE EARLIER,
07:26:11PM BECAUSE I WAS TAKEN BACK TO A TIME WHEN I WAS SITTING OVER
07:26:14PM HERE, BACK IN 1979.
07:26:19PM THE MILLAGE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WAS 9.93 MILLS.
07:26:26PM FOR THOSE WHO DON'T APPRECIATE THAT NUMBER.
07:26:30PM THE CEILING FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA IS 10.
07:26:33PM I WAS PART OF THE ADMINISTRATION LEADERSHIP WITH BOB
07:26:38PM MARTINEZ WHO TOOK ON THE EFFORT OF NEVER -- WE KEPT SAYING
07:26:42PM TO OURSELVES, WE NEVER WANT THE CITY TO BE IN THE POSTURE
07:26:46PM WHERE IT COULD NOT FOR IF AN EMERGENCY AROSE, WE WOULD BE
07:26:51PM UNABLE TOLL ADDRESS ANY ISSUE.
07:26:53PM SO IN THOSE SIX YEARS, WE WENT FROM 9.9 TO 5.3 MILLS.
07:26:59PM WITH A VISION OF KNOWING 40 YEARS LATER WE MIGHT BE WHERE WE
07:27:06PM ARE TODAY.
07:27:07PM BECAUSE NOT ONLY OF GROWTH, BUT ALSO AGING INFRASTRUCTURE
07:27:12PM AND ALL THE THINGS THAT COME ALONG WITH -- WITH A CITY THAT
07:27:16PM -- THAT GROWS AND ALSO A CITY THAT IS LOOKING TO MANAGE
07:27:20PM RESOURCES APPROPRIATELY.
07:27:21PM MY FINAL PURPOSE HERE IS TO SAY TO YOU THAT I BELIEVE THAT
07:27:27PM WITH THE FOLKS SITTING TO MY LEFT AND TO THE TALENT THAT YOU
07:27:31PM BRING TO THE TABLE, THERE IS A WAY TO FIND A WAY TO FIX AND
07:27:38PM STRATEGIZE WHERE WE NEED TO BE AS A CITY.
07:27:40PM THERE IS NO REASON FOR US TO HIDE OR TO POINT FINGERS
07:27:46PM BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, OUR COLLECTIVE ROLE IS TO
07:27:50PM MAKE THIS A BETTER PLACE IN WHICH TO LIVE.
07:27:54PM I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, THE TIME JUST TO COME TO SHARE THOSE
07:27:58PM THOUGHTS WITH YOU.
07:27:59PM I LOOK FORWARD TO LISTENING AND TAKING INVENTORY OF HOW YOU
07:28:03PM WORK TOGETHER.
07:28:04PM I THINK THE SOLUTIONS ARE THERE.
07:28:06PM AND BETWEEN YOUR INSIGHTS, AND THAT OF THE ADMINISTRATION, I
07:28:11PM BELIEVE THAT THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA CAN BE WELL SERVED.
07:28:15PM AND WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
07:28:16PM THANK YOU.
07:28:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
07:28:20PM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
07:28:22PM >> GOOD EVENING.
07:28:22PM MY NAME IS BILLY HADAWAY.
07:28:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TURN IT OVER.
07:28:28PM THERE YOU GO.
07:28:28PM >> THERE IS A LOT OF NUMBERS ON HERE, WHICH IS REALLY FOR
07:28:33PM YOUR INFORMATION.
07:28:33PM I WILL LEAVE COPIES FOR ALL OF YOU.
07:28:35PM I AM A NEW RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
07:28:39PM I MOVED OVER HERE FROM ORLANDO.
07:28:41PM I WAS THE TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR AT THE CITY OF ORLANDO FOR
07:28:44PM THE LAST FIVE YEARS BEFORE I LEFT AND SPENT 28 YEARS WITH
07:28:48PM THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
07:28:49PM SO I HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF THESE WORKSHOPS IN THE CITY
07:28:52PM OF ORLANDO, BUT I WANT TO NOT SO MUCH HERE TO TALK ABOUT
07:28:56PM WHERE YOU SHOULD SPEND THE MONEY.
07:28:57PM I WANT TO TRY TO EDUCATE YOU ON WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON WITH
07:29:00PM TRANSPORTATION FUNDING SINCE 1993.
07:29:03PM SO IS THE FEDERAL GAS TAX IS AT 18.4 CENTS.
07:29:07PM IT HAS NOT BEEN INCREASED SINCE 1993.
07:29:11PM THE PURCHASING POWER IS DOWN TO 34% OF WHAT IT WAS BACK
07:29:17PM THEN.
07:29:17PM EVER SINCE 2008 WHEN IT ACTUALLY WENT INTO BANKRUPTCY, OVER
07:29:22PM $155 BILLION TRANSFERRED FROM GENERAL FUND TO OFFSET THE
07:29:26PM SPENDING IN TRANSPORTATION ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
07:29:28PM SO THAT -- THAT TREND IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
07:29:31PM THERE HAS BEEN NO POLITICAL WILL TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT
07:29:34PM INCREASING THE GAS STACKS.
07:29:36PM AND IT IS ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE.
07:29:38PM SO THE PRESSURE HAS BEEN SHIFTED TO STATE AND LOCAL
07:29:41PM GOVERNMENTS SINCE 1993.
07:29:43PM AT THE STATE LEVEL, WE ARE INDEXED TO INFLATION THAT DOES
07:29:47PM HELP, BUT BASED ON THE LATEST PROJECTIONS FROM THE
07:29:50PM DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE, BECAUSE OF -- BECAUSE OF INCREASED
07:29:53PM GAS MILEAGE, NOT JUST WITH ELECTRICS AND HYBRID BUT ALL
07:29:58PM VEHICLES, THEY ARE EXPECTING THE TRANSPORTATION TRUST FUND
07:30:01PM TO PEAK IN 2025 WHICH MEANS STATE GAS TAX WILL NOT BE
07:30:06PM AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL LEVEL.
07:30:07PM AND THE THING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR A CITY IS THAT
07:30:11PM NEITHER THE STATE NOR THE FEDS PAY FOR OPERATIONS AND
07:30:13PM MAINTENANCE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
07:30:15PM SO THOSE FUNDS HAVE TO COME FROM SOME PLACE ELSE.
07:30:18PM IF THE CITY OF ORLANDO, WE ARE UNFORTUNATELY TRANSPORTATION
07:30:23PM SALES TAX DID NOT PASS BECAUSE OF THE -- BECAUSE OF THE
07:30:26PM RECENT OPPOSITION TO ANY KIND OF INCREASES.
07:30:29PM I KNOW THE SAME THING HAPPENED HERE LOCALLY.
07:30:32PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS UPON BE THIS TABLE THAT ARE
07:30:35PM AVAILABLE TO INCREASE FUNDING AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, YOU WILL
07:30:38PM SEE SOME OF THESE HAVE NOT BEEN INCREASED SINCE 1943.
07:30:42PM THERE IS A NEED TO DEAL WITH TRANSPORTATION FUNDING IN SOME
07:30:46PM WAY OR SOME LEVEL AND THAT IS THE TOUGH DECISIONS THAT YOU
07:30:49PM FOLKS HAVE TO MAKE.
07:30:50PM THERE WAS A MENTION EARLIER ABOUT IMPACT GUYS.
07:30:53PM CERTAINLY IMPACT FEES CAN HELP, BUT THEY CAN ONLY BE USED
07:30:57PM FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS.
07:30:58PM THEY CAN NOT BE USED FOR OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE.
07:31:01PM ANY TIME YOU ARE ANNEXING, YOU ARE TAKING ON MORE COST
07:31:05PM BURDEN FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
07:31:06PM AND I WILL JUST LEAVE THESE.
07:31:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
07:31:11PM YES, MA'AM.
07:31:12PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
07:31:14PM CHLOE CONEY.
07:31:16PM A WOMAN THAT WEARS MANY HATS.
07:31:19PM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TO YOU.
07:31:21PM I AM HOMEGROWN FROM TAMPA AND MOST OF YOU KNOW 31 YEARS AGO,
07:31:26PM I WAS THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF CAC OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
07:31:30PM I WORK WITH MAYOR FREEMAN, WITH THE MAYOR'S CHALLENGE FUND.
07:31:34PM WE BUILT THE FIRST APARTMENTS IN EAST TAMPA ON OSWALD AVENUE
07:31:39PM ON 34th AND OSBORNE.
07:31:41PM NOW MY SON, EARNEST, IS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO.
07:31:44PM HE COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.
07:31:46PM BUT WE WANTED ME TO PERSONALLY THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL, FOR
07:31:50PM YOUR SUPPORT, OVER THE YEARS, OF SUPPORTING CDC TO BUILD
07:31:56PM AFFORDABLE, SAFE HOUSING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
07:31:58PM CDC HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING RESIDENTS JOBS AND
07:32:02PM HELPING CHILDREN WHO GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND GO ON TO
07:32:05PM COLLEGE.
07:32:05PM TONIGHT, I WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR THE INCREASE OF FUNDING FOR
07:32:10PM HOUSING.
07:32:10PM AS CITY COUNCILWOMAN GWENDOLYN HENDERSON SAID, HOUSING IS
07:32:17PM THE TOP PRIORITY.
07:32:18PM I GET CALLS ALL THE TIME.
07:32:19PM PEOPLE THINK THAT I CAN DO EVERYTHING, BUT I KNOW EVERYBODY.
07:32:22PM THANK YOU WHEN I CALL ALL OF YOU, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP.
07:32:25PM BUT HOUSING IS OUR TOP PRIORITY.
07:32:27PM JUST THIS MONTH, SAD TO SAY, I HAVE TWO INCIDENTS, ONE IS MY
07:32:34PM NIECE.
07:32:34PM SHE WAS IN AN APARTMENT FIVE YEARS.
07:32:38PM RIGHT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
07:32:40PM THEY SOLD HER APARTMENT.
07:32:42PM HER RENT WENT UP $500.
07:32:45PM TODAY SHE LIVES IN MY HOUSE.
07:32:46PM A MOTHER IN AN APARTMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, RENT WENT UP
07:32:53PM $400.
07:32:53PM SHE HAS TO MOVE.
07:32:55PM SHE WANTED TO ENROLL HER CHILD IN ARMWOOD HIGH SCHOOL WHERE
07:32:59PM MY GRANDSON IS.
07:33:00PM I ENDED UP TAKING THE YOUNG MAN INTO MY HOUSE.
07:33:03PM MY HOUSE IS BECOMING THE MOTEL, HOTEL, HOLIDAY INN.
07:33:11PM I HAVE A PERSONAL INTEREST IN THIS Y'ALL WHEN I AM DOWN HERE
07:33:14PM TONIGHT.
07:33:14PM BUT THIS IS SERIOUS, BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE DOING, WE ARE
07:33:17PM PRICING PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE AND WERE RAISED HERE ALL THEIR
07:33:21PM LIVES OUT OF HOUSING.
07:33:22PM YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO WORRY OF SIDEWALKS BECAUSE
07:33:25PM PEOPLE WILL BE SLEEPING IN THE STREETS IF WE DON'T DO
07:33:28PM ANYTHING ABOUT HOUSING.
07:33:29PM IT IS THAT SERIOUS, Y'ALL.
07:33:31PM AND ALSO WE MUST INVEST IN HUMAN -- HUMAN CAPACITY.
07:33:34PM YOU MUST INVEST IN -- AND I KNOW THE CITY HAS NOT DONE A
07:33:38PM GREAT JOB ON THIS IN WORKFORCE.
07:33:40PM I AM CURRENTLY ON THE MAYOR'S WORKFORCE TASK FORCE.
07:33:43PM AND I HAVE KNOWN WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.
07:33:45PM IF WE DON'T INCREASE THE SKILLS OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE
07:33:48PM -- NOT COME IN FROM OTHER STATES, BUT THAT LIVE HERE TO GET
07:33:52PM THEM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT THEY CAN PAY THEIR OWN RENT OR
07:33:56PM BUY A HOUSE.
07:33:57PM THAT IS SOURCE MAIN GOAL.
07:33:58PM SO TONIGHT, LIKE I SAID, I'M HERE AND I AM ASKING FOR YOUR
07:34:03PM HELP.
07:34:03PM PLEASE MAKE HOUSING YOUR TOP PRIORITY.
07:34:06PM GOD BLESS Y'ALL AND I THANK YOU NOR ALL YOU DO.
07:34:08PM BUT COME ON, LET'S MAKE TAMPA THE NEXT GREAT CITY AND
07:34:12PM HOUSING IS IT.
07:34:13PM THANK YOU, ALL.
07:34:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:34:17PM BISHOP PATTY.
07:34:19PM >> GOOD EVENING.
07:34:20PM I AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY AND I AM HOST OF "WHAT'S
07:34:26PM REALLY HAPPENING" THE TALK SHOW THAT COUNCILMAN BILL CARLSON
07:34:31PM ALLUDED TO WHEN HE HEARD DEPUTY CHIEF JOHNSON ON MY SHOW.
07:34:35PM I WITH A TONIGHT SAY I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED FOR YOU, MR.
07:34:39PM CHAIRMAN, SET THE TONE THAT YOU ALREADY SAID IT IS A DONE
07:34:42PM DEAL.
07:34:42PM YOU ARE NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT.
07:34:44PM THAT IS TELLING ME I AM WASTING MY TIME STANDING HERE AND
07:34:49PM SPEAK TO YOU.
07:34:49PM I THINK THAT IS VERY DISINGENUOUS.
07:34:52PM I WANT -- BUT I AM GOING ON RECORD TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I
07:34:56PM WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE.
07:34:57PM MY BROTHER IS STILL ON NORTH 8th STREET.
07:35:00PM HE IS A SENIOR CITIZEN, SUCH AS I AM.
07:35:02PM AND ALSO HE GETS THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY.
07:35:07PM BUT HE IS ALSO IN BAD HEALTH.
07:35:10PM HE HAS USED THE EMS.
07:35:12PM HE NEEDED THE EMS.
07:35:14PM SO HIS HOME, WHICH HE UNDERSTAND, THE MILLAGE RATE IS ONLY
07:35:19PM GOING TO GO UP BY A FEW DOLLARS.
07:35:21PM WHAT YOU ARE NOT DOING IS TELLING PEOPLE THAT, YES, THE
07:35:24PM PEOPLE THAT IS ON BAYSHORE AND HARBOUR ISLAND AND THE MAN
07:35:28PM WHO STOOD HERE AND TALKED ABOUT SIX PROPERTIES THAT HE OWNS.
07:35:31PM YES, HIS TAXES ARE GOING TO GO UP.
07:35:33PM YES, SIR, HIS TAX ALSO BE MORE THAN THE FOLKS OUT IN EAST
07:35:37PM TAMPA, BUT YOU ARE NOT TELLING THE PEOPLE THE TRUTH IN BREAK
07:35:42PM IT DOWN.
07:35:42PM I DON'T HAVE COMPASSION FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE RICH AND WANT TO
07:35:47PM GET RICHER.
07:35:48PM I DON'T HAVE COMPASSION FOR ONE TO COME HERE AND NOT MAKE A
07:35:53PM COMMITMENT WHO SAYS IF YOU DO NOT PASS THIS MILLAGE TAX, WE
07:36:01PM WON'T RAISE RATE.
07:36:02PM I HEAR PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TALKING OF PROPERTY.
07:36:05PM WHAT ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT PEOPLE, CHILDREN, WOMEN, ARE
07:36:08PM LAYING IN THE STREETS THAT DO NOT HAVE HOUSING.
07:36:10PM YOU TALKED ABOUT THE POLICE?
07:36:12PM UNTIL YOUR CHILD OR YOUR LOVED ONE IS MURDERED AS MINE
07:36:16PM TWICE.
07:36:16PM I GET THE PHONE CALL FROM PEOPLE OUT IN EAST TAMPA, BELMONT
07:36:21PM HEIGHTS, JACKSON HEIGHTS IF WE WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN.
07:36:24PM I THANK THE CHIEF AND DEPUTY CHIEF FOR SAYING WE WANT TO PUT
07:36:28PM BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
07:36:29PM THAT IS SOMEHOW WE USED TO DO IT HERE IN THE CITY.
07:36:31PM NOT ONLY THAT, PETITION WANT TO HIRE CIVILIANS FOR THE
07:36:35PM POLICE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT.
07:36:38PM THAT HELPED CHILDREN FROM BEING INCARCERATED AND BEING
07:36:42PM MURDERED.
07:36:42PM NOBODY IS I REALLY TALKING OF THE PARKS -- TALKING OF THE
07:36:47PM PARKS AND WHAT HAS NOT DONE.
07:36:48PM GARY SHEFFIELD AND QUITE GOODEN AND THESE FOLKS CAME OUT OF
07:36:53PM THOSE SAME PARKS?
07:36:54PM IF WE PUT MORE MONEY INTO OURS PARKS.
07:36:58PM THEIR CARE OVER THERE, WE WOULDN'T SEE THE THINGS AND THE
07:37:01PM VIOLENCE WE ARE SEEING NOW.
07:37:02PM I AM HEARING ABOUT $40 MILLION BEING BUILT ON FAIR OAKS.
07:37:05PM LET'S BREAK THE GROUND.
07:37:07PM I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THE TREE CANOPY AND THE BIRDS
07:37:11PM HAVING POOP.
07:37:12PM GUESS WHAT, THAT IS THE THING OF NATURE.
07:37:14PM WHETHER YOU HAVE A TREE OR NOT, THE BIRDS ARE GOING TO POOP,
07:37:19PM JUST DRIVE DOWN THE STREET.
07:37:20PM THIS COUNCIL NEEDS TO GET SOME BACKBONE AND DO WHAT IS?
07:37:23PM THE BEST INTEREST.
07:37:24PM THIS IS GOING TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
07:37:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:37:27PM YES, MA'AM.
07:37:29PM >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
07:37:39PM ROBIN LOCKETT OPINION I THOUGHT WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY ALL
07:37:43PM DAY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU RAISE THE MILLAGE, IF YOU DIDN'T
07:37:46PM RAISE THE MILLAGE, AND THE -- AS YOU KNOW, THE TOP PRIORITY
07:37:50PM TO ME IS HOUSING.
07:37:52PM WHETHER YOU RAISE THE MILLAGE OR NOT, AND AS MICHELLE PATTY
07:37:56PM JUST POINTED OUT, THE TONE HAS BEEN SET BY THE CHAIR THAT,
07:38:02PM HEY, WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN RAISING THE MILLAGE.
07:38:05PM THAT IS SURPRISE ME BECAUSE TAKE GUTS FOR YOU ACTUAL GO
07:38:08PM AGAINST THE MAYOR.
07:38:09PM THAT TAKES -- THAT IS SURPRISING.
07:38:11PM BUT SINCE YOU ARE TAKING THAT STANCE, IT APPEARS, ALLEGEDLY,
07:38:18PM YOU HAVE TO BE BRAVE IN OTHER WAYS.
07:38:20PM WHAT WAS -- WHAT WAS DONE ONCE IN THE PAST DOESN'T HAVE TO
07:38:26PM BE DONE THE SAME RIGHT NOW.
07:38:28PM YOU HAVE AN UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THINGS AS THEY
07:38:32PM ARE.
07:38:32PM YOU SENT OUT COMMUNITY SURVEYS.
07:38:34PM WHY?
07:38:35PM BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO HEAR THE POST PULSE OR FIND THE PULSE
07:38:42PM OF THE COMMUNITY.
07:38:42PM THE COMMUNITY SURVEYS CAME OUT HOUSING.
07:38:44PM EACH ONE OF YOU GUYS -- MOST OF TO YOU GIVE YOUR OUTLINE OF
07:38:48PM WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU AND YOU DON'T MENTION HOUSING AND
07:38:51PM YOU RAN ON HOUSE SOMETHING IN THAT IS DISINGENUOUS, RIGHT.
07:38:56PM BECAUSE NOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS -- IT WAS JUST FOR THE
07:38:59PM MOMENT.
07:38:59PM YOU WERE JUST TALKING -- THOSE WERE TALKING POINTS FOR YOU,
07:39:02PM BUT THESE ARE PEOPLE'S LIVES THAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
07:39:05PM YOU HEARD COUNTLESS TIMES THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO
07:39:10PM LIVE.
07:39:10PM THEY ARE SLEEPING ON THE GROUND.
07:39:12PM THEY CAN'T AFFORD RENT.
07:39:13PM THEY ARE STILL BEING EVICTED.
07:39:15PM THERE IS A BIGGER PICTURE TO THIS.
07:39:18PM WHATEVER HOUSING IS ASKING FOR, YOU NEED TO GIVE IT TO
07:39:23PM THEM.
07:39:24PM THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.
07:39:25PM -- THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
07:39:28PM NOT POLICE.
07:39:29PM SORRY TO SAY.
07:39:30PM NOT POLICE.
07:39:31PM HOUSING.
07:39:33PM HOUSING IS THE FOUNDATION OF EVERYTHING.
07:39:36PM AND IF YOU WANT TO MOVE TAMPA FORWARD, REALLY FORWARD AND BE
07:39:42PM -- AND BE INNOVATIVE WITH REGARDS TO WHAT NEXT STEMS ARE,
07:39:47PM YOU NEED TO SUPPORT HOUSING.
07:39:48PM IF YOU DON'T RAISE THE MILLAGE -- THE MILLAGE -- THE
07:39:53PM MILLAGE, YOU NEED TO SUPPORT HOUSING -- HOUSING NEEDS TO BE
07:39:56PM IN THE MIDDLE.
07:39:57PM AND EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE OUTSIDE.
07:39:59PM I AM JUST -- I AM -- I AM PISSED -- I AM UPSET WITH Y'ALL.
07:40:07PM SO -- TAKE YOUR TIME.
07:40:12PM BE HONEST.
07:40:13PM SOME OF YOU HAVE GONE INTO APARTMENTS.
07:40:17PM PROMISED THOSE PEOPLE THINGS AND THEN YOU GET UP HERE AND
07:40:21PM VOTE AGAINST THEIR BEST INTEREST.
07:40:22PM YOU IDENTIFY -- YOU PIMP OUR COMMUNITY.
07:40:25PM YOU GO TO THESE APARTMENTS, BLACK PEOPLE ARE -- ARE CALLING
07:40:29PM AND CRYING THEIR HEARTS OUT TO YOU, AND YOU COME HERE AND
07:40:32PM VOTE A DIFFERENT WAY.
07:40:33PM SO SUPPORT HOUSING.
07:40:37PM THANK YOU, GWEN FOR YOUR NOTES.
07:40:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:40:42PM ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK, IF NOT, WE WILL TAKE A
07:40:45PM SHORT BREAK TO ALLOW THE OTHER KNOWS ARE DOWNSTAIRS TO COME
07:40:49PM UP.
07:40:49PM ALL RIGHT, WE WILL TAKE A BREAK.
08:06:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK.
08:06:49PM ROLL CALL.
08:06:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
08:06:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
08:06:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
08:06:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
08:07:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
08:07:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
08:07:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
08:07:04PM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
08:07:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY, DO YOU WANT TO
08:07:09PM READ THE RULES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE BEGIN?
08:07:15PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
08:07:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
08:07:19PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
08:07:32PM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE GIVEN A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
08:07:35PM TO BE HEARD AT THE TIME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL
08:07:40PM ACTION.
08:07:40PM STATE YOUR NAME FOR EYEWITNESS NEWS IN THE RECORD OF THE
08:07:43PM MEETING.
08:07:44PM CITY COUNCIL MAY ESTABLISH TIME LIMITS FOR MEMBERS OF YOU
08:07:46PM CAN WILL I CAN TO ADDRESS COUNCIL, UNLESS SUCH TIME LIMITS
08:07:49PM ARE OTHERWISE ESTABLISHED, EACH MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WILL
08:07:52PM WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
08:07:53PM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ADDRESSING COUNCIL SHALL OBSERVE ALL
08:07:57PM TIME LIMITATIONS THAT MAY APPLY.
08:07:59PM DURING PUBLIC HEARING, INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
08:08:03PM DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS SUCH AS TONIGHT, INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS
08:08:06PM OF THE PUBLIC PROVIDED THEY ARE PRESENT IN THE AUDIENCE MAY
08:08:09PM DESIGNATE A REPRESENTATIVE SPOKESPERSON TO SPEAK ON THEIR
08:08:12PM BEHALF AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND, BE THERE, RELINQUISH
08:08:16PM THEIR TIME TO THE SPOKESPERSON.
08:08:17PM THEREAFTER, THEY MAY NOT BE HEARD ON THE AGENDA ITEM OF
08:08:22PM WHICH DESIGNATION IS MADE.
08:08:24PM SUCH DESIGNATION SIGNING A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM ON THE WATER
08:08:29PM ARE CAROUSEL OUTSIDE.
08:08:30PM THE REPRESENTATIVE SPOKESPERSON CAN SPEAK UP TO ONE MINUTE
08:08:34PM FOR EACH DESIGNATION UNTIL A MAXIMUM OF TEN MINUTES.
08:08:37PM THAT BEING SAID I WILL GO THROUGH THE RULES OF DECORUM.
08:08:41PM THEY ARE IN THE RULES, BUT MR. CHAIR, AGAIN, THE CHAIR SHALL
08:08:45PM RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WHO SHALL SPEAK
08:08:48PM WITHOUTING RECOGNIZED OR SHOULD NOT ADDRESS COUNCIL FROM THE
08:08:52PM PODIUM OR OTHER ESTABLISHED SPEAKER AREA AND NO ONE PRESENT
08:08:55PM PLEASE DURING A COUNCIL MEETING SHALL ENGAGE IN DISRUPTIVE
08:09:00PM BEHAVIOR MAKING OR CAUSING TO BE MADE ANY DISRUPTIVE SOUND
08:09:04PM OR NOISE OR DISPLAYING SIGNS AND GRAPHICS IN A MATTER
08:09:07PM DISRUPTIVE TO THE PROCEEDINGS.
08:09:08PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:09:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:09:11PM IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
08:09:13PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
08:09:14PM STATE YOUR NAME AND LINE UP ON THIS SIDE THE ROOM AND WE
08:09:17PM WILL TAKE EACH PERSON INDIVIDUALLY.
08:09:18PM YES, SIR.
08:09:22PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:09:23PM >> HEY, EVERYONE, NEIL HARGES, PRESIDENT OF THE PALM BEACH
08:09:30PM COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION.
08:09:31PM SORRY, I WASN'T EXPECTING TO BE FIRST.
08:09:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE YOUR TIME, IT IS ALL RIGHT.
08:09:35PM >> ALL RIGHT.
08:09:36PM I COME TO TALK TODAY OF THE SEAWALL PROJECT IN THE PALMETTO
08:09:40PM BEACH AREA.
08:09:41PM SPECIFICALLY STRETCHING ALONG BERMUDA BOULEVARD AND DESOTO
08:09:47PM PARK.
08:09:48PM REBUILDING THE SEAWALL IN PALMETTO BEACH IS CRUCIAL FOR
08:09:53PM ECONOMIC STABILITY AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:10:00PM STORM SEASON CONTINUES TO GET WORSE EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
08:10:03PM TAMPA WHO HAVEN'T RECEIVED A DIRECT HIT IN OVER 100 YEARS
08:10:07PM HAS BEEN LUCKY BUT WE HAVE COME CLOSE.
08:10:09PM I REMEMBER IN '17 IRMO WAS COMING ALONG AND I WAS LIVING IN
08:10:16PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AT THE TIME AND TWO DAYS OUT, ZOOM IN TO
08:10:19PM THE GOOGLE MAP WHERE YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE STREET.
08:10:21PM THERE IT WAS COMING RIGHT UP NEBRASKA.
08:10:24PM I REMEMBER TURNING TO MY WIFE AND SAY, WE SHOULD FIND SOME
08:10:27PM PLYWOOD.
08:10:28PM BUT THAT STORM IS COMING.
08:10:30PM CURRENTLY, THE SEAWALL IN PALMETTO BEACH IS 99 YEARS OLD.
08:10:36PM FEATURES SIX TO SEVEN-FOOT RUNS THAT ARE ENTIRELY BROKEN
08:10:40PM OFF.
08:10:40PM HOLES ON THE TOP THAT YOU CAN WALK ON THAT ARE THREE TO FOUR
08:10:44PM DEEP JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF CATCHING YOUR ANKLES.
08:10:47PM ALSO EXPOSED RUSTED REBASH BAR THAT IS BRITTLE ENOUGH TO
08:10:53PM BREAK OFF IN YOUR HANDS.
08:10:53PM THIS YEAR IDALIA HIT ALL THE WAY UP IN BIG BEND, BUT WE SAW
08:10:58PM THE SEAWALL FAILED WITH FLOODWATERS NOT THROUGH BERMUDA BUT
08:11:04PM ALL THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:11:05PM THE WORST FLOOD SINCE HURRICANE ELENA IN 1995 AND WE STILL
08:11:11PM HAVE NOT GOTTEN THE DIRECT HIT.
08:11:13PM WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE RATHER THANRY AN I HAVE IT BEFORE
08:11:17PM THE NEXT STORM HITS.
08:11:18PM A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND HOUSING.
08:11:20PM AN IMPORTANT SUBJECT, BUT WHILE WE ARE AT IT, WE NEED TO
08:11:24PM PROJECT IT THE HOMES WE ALREADY HAVE.
08:11:25PM ECONOMICALLY, THE COST OF PREVENTION CONTINUES TO BE PASSED
08:11:28PM ON TO THE RESIDENTS AS WELL AS THE BUSINESS OWNERS THROUGH
08:11:31PM HIGHER TAXES AND GREATER FLOOD INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS.
08:11:34PM BUT WE HAVEN'T YET SEEN THE CITY MEET US HALFWAY ON THOSE
08:11:38PM INVESTMENTS FROM THE RESIDENTS.
08:11:39PM PALMETTO BEACH IS OFTEN REFERRED TO AS A HIDDEN GEM WITHIN
08:11:44PM TAMPA CIRCLES.
08:11:45PM HIDDEN GEM AS A NICKNAME IS BOTH COMPLIMENTARY AND
08:11:49PM FRUSTRATING AS WE ARE OFTEN OVERLOOKED REGARDING CRUCIAL
08:11:53PM INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP GROW DEVELOPMENT.
08:11:54PM WE ARE THE CLOSEST SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TO DOWNTOWN.
08:11:57PM WE REPRESENT A FANTASTIC ECONOMIC GROWTH OPPORTUNITY WITH
08:12:01PM THAT PROXIMITY, AS WELL AS PROXIMITY TO THE PORT OF TAMPA,
08:12:04PM AS WELL AS YBOR.
08:12:05PM AS A COMMUNITY, WE ARE DOING OUR PART.
08:12:09PM WE WORKED WITH PLANNING COMMISSIONS BOTH WITH THE CITY
08:12:12PM AND USF.
08:12:13PM APPLIED FOR MULTIPLE GRANTS, INCLUDING WITH NOAA.
08:12:16PM APPLIED FOR THE D.O.T.'S RAISE GRANT.
08:12:20PM WHEN WE DIDN'T GET THAT, WE APPLY FOR THE D.O.T.'S PROTECT
08:12:25PM GRANT AND WORKING WITH STATE SENATOR TO GET APPROPRIATIONS
08:12:29PM THROUGH CONGRESS.
08:12:29PM WE HAD SEVERAL ADVICE FRITZ OFFICIALS INCLUDING COUNCILWOMAN
08:12:33PM HURTAK COME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO AGREES OF THE DES
08:12:38PM AGGREGATED STATE OF THE SEAWALL AND MAKE SURE YOU DO
08:12:42PM WHATEVER YOU CAN TO GET IT ADDED INTO THE BUDGET FOR THE
08:12:45PM SEAWALL FOR THE COMING NEAR.
08:12:46PM THANK YOU.
08:12:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:12:48PM YES, MA'AM.
08:12:49PM >> THANK YOU.
08:12:51PM THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
08:12:52PM THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO YOUR CITIZENS.
08:12:54PM MY NAME IS SHARON AUSTIN.
08:12:56PM I AM A TAMPA NATIVE.
08:12:57PM I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA, AND I OWN NO HOME HERE BECAUSE I
08:13:02PM CAN'T AFFORD IT.
08:13:02PM I SUFFER THE SAME PENALTY OF ALL THE MILLAGE RATES AND ALL
08:13:07PM THE INFLATION RATES THROUGH RENT; HOWEVER, I DON'T HAVE
08:13:12PM EQUITY TO SHOW FOR ALL THESE INCREASES IN MILLAGE.
08:13:16PM HOWEVER, I STRONGLY SUPPORT INCREASING A MILLAGE RATE
08:13:22PM BECAUSE I STRONGLY BELIEVE IT IS A FAIRNESS ISSUE.
08:13:25PM MY BROTHER WHO IS IN HEAVEN NOW HAD DISABILITIES.
08:13:32PM AND THE ONLY SUCCESS WE HAD WITH HIM IN THIS CITY WAS
08:13:36PM THROUGH TRANSPORTATION AND THROUGH SIDEWALKS.
08:13:39PM THROUGH TRANSPORTATION, GOOD ROADS, HE WAS ABLE TO GET OUT
08:13:44PM AND FIND A LIFE FOR HIMSELF INDEPENDENT OF THE FAMILY.
08:13:48PM I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT A DIFFERENCE MADE BOTH TO HIM AND TO
08:13:52PM THE FAMILY TO HAVE STRONGLY FUNDED PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
08:13:57PM THE SIDEWALKS WERE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
08:14:00PM NOT ONLY -- NOT ONLY FOR SAFETY REASONS.
08:14:05PM I HAVE READ THAT CHICAGO'S DEATH RATE FOR CITIZENS WITH
08:14:12PM SIDEWALKS IS HALF OF THAT.
08:14:13PM FOR THOSE WITHOUT.
08:14:15PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS HERE FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:14:18PM BUT IT WAS A VERY STRONG WAY TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD
08:14:23PM INCLUSIVE.
08:14:24PM MY BROTHER WITH DISABILITIES WOULD JUST GO OUT AND SIT IN
08:14:28PM FRONT OF -- ON THE SIDEWALK AND AS PEOPLE DROVE BY, THEY
08:14:32PM WOULD NOTICE HE WAS JUST PLAIN WEIRD, BUT HE WASN'T HURTING
08:14:36PM ANYBODY.
08:14:36PM AND EVENTUALLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAME TOGETHER ON THE
08:14:39PM SIDEWALKS TO MEET MY BROTHER AND LEARN TOLERANCE.
08:14:43PM SO PLEASE DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.
08:14:48PM I STRONGLY SUPPORT INCREASING TAXES, BECAUSE I THINK IT IS A
08:14:53PM WAY OF BEING FAIR.
08:14:54PM IT IS A WAY TO SPREAD THE WEALTH.
08:14:57PM AND THE CITY NEEDS IT.
08:14:59PM OUR CITIZENS NEEDS IT.
08:15:01PM THANK YOU.
08:15:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:15:03PM YES, MA'AM.
08:15:04PM >> HI, I LIVE MARA OPSAL, AND IF I KNEW I WOULD FORGET MY
08:15:15PM READING GLASSES I WOULD HAVE PRINT IT OUT IN A LARGER FONT.
08:15:19PM OH, THANK YOU.
08:15:20PM WITH THE PROPOSED MILLAGE INCREASE, THE TAMPA PORTION OF MY
08:15:24PM PROPERTY TAX ALSO GO UP A WHOPPING $36 A MONTH.
08:15:27PM I AM 100% FINE WITH THAT IF WE GET THE PROMISED ALLOCATIONS
08:15:31PM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
08:15:32PM TAMPA'S MILLAGE HAS NOT BEEN RAISEDED FOR OVER A DECADE.
08:15:36PM PAYING CATCH-UP ON WHAT HAS BEEN INCREASED YEARS AGO.
08:15:41PM WE NEED A BIGGER PIE.
08:15:43PM INCREASE THE MILLAGE.
08:15:44PM INCREASE THE GUYS TOO WHILE YOU ARE AT IT.
08:15:46PM JUST THE MILLAGE IS NOT ENOUGH.
08:15:48PM RAISE -- TAKE IT FROM THE RESERVES .TAKE IT EVERYWHERE.
08:15:53PM WE NEED HOUSING.
08:15:54PM TAMPA IS FACING A HOUSING CRISIS IF NOT AN EMERGENCY.
08:15:58PM IF NOT LEADERSHIP OR THE POLITICAL WILL TO TAKE POSITIONS
08:16:02PM THAT MAY BE UNPOPULAR WITH YOUR MOST VOCAL RESIDENTS, MOST
08:16:05PM OF WHOM DON'T ACTUALLY VOTE, THE CRISIS WILL JUST GET WORSE
08:16:09PM NOT BETTER.
08:16:09PM THE HOUSING CRISIS WE HAD TODAY WAS IN PART TO BAD AND
08:16:14PM EGREGIOUS POLICY DECISIONS OF PEOPLE THAT SAT IN YOUR SEAT
08:16:18PM DECADES AGO.
08:16:19PM SEVERAL OF THE DECISIONS MANDATORY PARKING MINIMUMS WERE
08:16:22PM BASED ON BAD ADVICE.
08:16:23PM OTHERS LIKE MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO BUILD EVERYTHING OTHER THAN
08:16:27PM SINGLE-FAMILY IN MOST OF THE FAMILY WAS BASED IN RACISM,
08:16:31PM BIGOTRY DESIGNED TO EXCLUDE PEOPLE NOT WHITE, MIDDLE OR
08:16:35PM UPPER CLASS.
08:16:36PM TIME TO EXPLICITLY START WRITING THOSE WRONGS.
08:16:39PM OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, YOU WILL HAVE MULTIPLE
08:16:42PM OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE THE HOUSING SUPPLY IN TAMPA AND
08:16:45PM MAKE HOUSING MORE AFFORDABLE TO EVERYONE.
08:16:46PM THERE WILL BE DECISIONS ABOUT FUTURE LAND USE AND LAND
08:16:51PM DEVELOPMENT CODE AND HOPEFULLY OPPORTUNITIES TO PURSUE
08:16:53PM COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
08:16:54PM THERE IS NO SINGLE FIX -- THERE IS NO SINGLE THING THAT WILL
08:16:58PM FIX THE HOUSING CRISIS.
08:16:59PM IT WILL REQUIRE A LOT OF WORK ON VARIOUS THINGS FROM
08:17:02PM ALLOWING MORE DENSITY TO ELIMINATING MANDATORY PARKING
08:17:06PM MINIMUMS.
08:17:07PM BUT MONEY IS ALSO A HUGE PART OF THIS.
08:17:09PM TODAY YOU HAVE A CHANCES TO SUPPORT A MILLAGE INCREASE THAT
08:17:12PM WILL INCREASE THE FUND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SUBSTANTIALLY
08:17:15PM MORE THAN WE WILL EVER GET WITHOUT THE INCREASE.
08:17:17PM IS THE BUDGET PERFECT?
08:17:19PM NO.
08:17:19PM COULD IT BE MORE TRANSPARENT?
08:17:22PM OF COURSE.
08:17:22PM THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE MONEY FROM THE
08:17:25PM MILLAGE INCREASE IS DESPERATELY NEEDED TO INCREASE THE
08:17:28PM SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN TAMPA.
08:17:30PM AFTER SITTING HERE FOR THREE HOURS, HEARING SO MANY PEOPLE
08:17:34PM COMPLAIN ABOUT PROPERTY INSURANCE, OOP INSURANCE AND
08:17:37PM INFLATION.
08:17:37PM I HOPE THOSE PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THE SAME PRESSURE ON THEIR
08:17:41PM ELECTED REPRESENTATIVESES IN TALLAHASSEE BECAUSE THAT IS THE
08:17:45PM SOURCE OF THE PROBLEM.
08:17:46PM DON'T SAY YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT RENTERS AND QUADRIPLEXES
08:17:49PM AND OTHER MISSING HOUSING CITYWIDE.
08:17:51PM SOUTH TAMPA IS NOT FULL.
08:17:52PM WHERE THOSE THINGS CAN BE PUT.
08:17:56PM ALSO DON'T REFUSE TO ELIMINATE OR SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCE MAN
08:18:01PM AND TOWARDRY PARKING MINIMUMS THAT BY THE WAY AT SEVERAL
08:18:05PM HUNDRED DOLLARS PER MONTH TO RENT ON APARTMENTS.
08:18:08PM QUIT CATERING.
08:18:09PM ANYWAY.
08:18:10PM AND ALSO LANDLORDS CHOOSE TO PASS THOSE HOUSES INCREASES
08:18:15PM ALONG.
08:18:15PM ANOTHER NOT FORCED TOO.
08:18:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:18:22PM >> DeANGELO FOR -- ANGELO WITH THE CORE SORB YUM.
08:18:30PM I KNOW YOU ARE TIRED TO SEE MY FACE AND I WILL GET UGLIER
08:18:36PM EVERY YEAR AND UNTIL YOU DO SOMETHING, I WILL BE HERE IN THE
08:18:38PM COMMUNITY AS PROMISE.
08:18:40PM THOSE WHO RAN PROMISED YOU WOULD DO SOMETHING WITH THE
08:18:44PM HOUSING CRISIS.
08:18:44PM 2022 WAS SO EXPLOSIVE, SO MANY PEOPLE AT THESE CITY COUNCIL
08:18:49PM MEETINGS TALKING OF HOUSING.
08:18:50PM 2020.
08:18:51PM I REMEMBER A TWO-AND-A-HALF HOUR MEETING PEOPLE SAYING THE
08:18:55PM SAME THING THAT WE ARE SAYING TODAY.
08:18:57PM WHICH MEANS IN THREE YEARS, THE PROBLEM HAS NOT GOTTEN ANY
08:19:00PM BETTER.
08:19:01PM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE PUTTING OUR MONEY, WHETHER
08:19:04PM WE PASS.
08:19:05PM AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE HAVING US TALK.
08:19:08PM THANK YOU FOR THE DEMOCRACY.
08:19:10PM WE APPRECIATE THE ILLUSION, BUT IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO
08:19:13PM IT, YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING AND DO IT QUICKLY.
08:19:15PM WE DON'T NEED 30 MORE POLICE OFFICERS.
08:19:17PM WE NEED TO REORGANIZE THE WAY WEAR UTILIZING THE SOURCES IN
08:19:22PM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
08:19:22PM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER, BUT IT WASN'T TAMPA
08:19:26PM POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT SOLVED THE SEMINOLE HEIGHTS KILLINGS
08:19:29PM A FEW YEARS AGO.
08:19:29PM IT WAS A MANAGER AT McDONALD'S THAT DID THAT.
08:19:32PM SO ACCORDING THE TAMPA BAY TIMES, HALF OF THE HOMICIDES IN
08:19:36PM TAMPA WERE NOT SOLVED LAST YEAR BY TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
08:19:41PM SO WHAT WITH WHICH ADDED ON TO?
08:19:43PM TO HAVE MORE BEAT COPS AND SHOT SPOTTERS AND BIKING WHILE
08:19:47PM BLACK AND RUNNING WHILE BLACK.
08:19:50PM WE KNOW HOW THE MAYOR RAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
08:19:53PM IT HAS NOT CHANGED.
08:19:54PM RAN SOLELY BASED ON RACISM AND CLASSISM.
08:19:57PM UP IF WANT TO INCREASE GENTRIFICATION, ESPECIALLY IF YOU
08:20:01PM LOOK AT YBOR, THEN MORE POLICE OFFICERS WILL BE GREAT AT
08:20:04PM THAT.
08:20:04PM BECAUSE WHEN I SEE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE MAJORITY OF
08:20:07PM THEM ARE CLEARLY NOT SOLVING MURDERS.
08:20:09PM THEY ARE OUT MOVING A HOMELESS PERSON OFF OF ONE BENCH AND
08:20:12PM PUSHING THEM ON TO ANOTHER.
08:20:15PM THAT IS NOT THE SOLUTION -- AN ACTUAL SOLUTION -- THIS IS
08:20:18PM SURPRISING EVEN THOUGH I SENT THIS TO YOU FOR THE LAST SEVEN
08:20:23PM YEARS WITH RJC.
08:20:24PM IF YOU SOLVE CRIME AT THE ROOT, DO YOU BELIEVE IT PAYS FOR
08:20:28PM ITSELF?
08:20:29PM IF THERE IS NO MORE HOMELESSNESS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIRE
08:20:32PM MORE COPS TO POLICE HOMELESSNESS.
08:20:33PM OH, MY GOD, DID YOU KNOW THAT?
08:20:37PM IF WE FOCUS LESS ON THE WAR ON DRUGS AND MORE ON THE WAR ON
08:20:40PM POVERTY AND STOPPING POVERTY, MAYBE WE WILL GET RESULTS THAT
08:20:44PM WE NEED.
08:20:44PM INSTEAD WE KEEP DOING THE SAME THING INCREASE THE POLICE
08:20:48PM BUDGET.
08:20:48PM YOU SAID IT YOURSELVES THIS YEAR.
08:20:50PM VIOLENT CRIME IS UP, AND THEY INCREASED THE BUDGET EVERY
08:20:55PM SINGLE TIME THEY ASK.
08:20:56PM MAYBE PUT MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.
08:20:57PM NOT A DIFFICULT CHOICE.
08:20:58PM SELL SOME OF THOSE DRONES.
08:20:59PM THEY DON'T NEED THEM.
08:21:01PM SELL THE NIGHT VISION.
08:21:02PM GIVE THEM EYE TESTS.
08:21:04PM IF THEY CAN'T SEE AT NIGHT, DO A DESK JOB.
08:21:07PM WE DON'T NEED MORE EQUIPMENT FOR TPD.
08:21:09PM WE NEED HOUSING, ADUs, COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS, SUPPORTING THE
08:21:14PM PEOPLE IN EAST AND WEST TAMPA, NOT PEOPLE COMING FROM NEW
08:21:17PM YORK.
08:21:17PM BETTER WAGES.
08:21:18PM CAHOOTS-LIKE PROGRAM.
08:21:20PM CALL ST. PETE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
08:21:22PM IT IS NOT DIFFICULT.
08:21:22PM DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU ARE DOING, IT IS NOT
08:21:25PM WORKING.
08:21:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR.
08:21:27PM >> MY NAME IS PHILLIP DRONIN AND HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF
08:21:33PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
08:21:37PM OF TAMPA IS IN DESPERATE NEED OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
08:21:41PM MEANWHILE, THE POLICE BUDGET IS BEING DRASTICALLY INCREASED.
08:21:44PM LAST YEAR WE WITNESSED WHEN THE POLICE CHIEF HAD TO -- HAD
08:21:48PM TO QUIT HER JOB BECAUSE SHE WAS ABUSING POWER.
08:21:52PM SO WHY ARE WE GIVING MORE MONEY TO THE POLICE WHEN CLEARLY
08:21:56PM THEY CANNOT HANDLE THE POWER THEY ARE ALREADY GIVEN?
08:22:00PM MONEY WOULD INHERENTLY GIVE THEM MORE POWER.
08:22:03PM GIVE THEM MORE TECH.
08:22:04PM GIVE THEM EVERYTHING TO KEEP FURTHER ABUSING THAT POWER.
08:22:08PM THANK YOU.
08:22:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:22:11PM YES, MA'AM.
08:22:12PM >> GOOD EVENING.
08:22:13PM MY NAME IS PAULETTE WALKER.
08:22:16PM AND I WANT TONIGHT START OFF WITH A NOTE THAT I RECEIVED ON
08:22:28PM 1:38 A.M. SATURDAY MORNING.
08:22:30PM HEY, MISS PAULETTE, IS CAROL SPRINGER'S DAUGHTER, SADIE, MY
08:22:38PM HUSBAND AND I GOT EVICTED.
08:22:39PM OUR TWO-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AFTER HE LOST HIS JOB.
08:22:43PM WE ARE SLEEPING IN OUR TRUCK WITH EVERYTHING WE OWN.
08:22:49PM I AM SO TIRED.
08:22:51PM MY DAUGHTER IS CRANKY.
08:22:52PM CAN YOU PLEASE HELP US AT ALL.
08:22:59PM THAT WAS TOUCHING FOR ME.
08:23:00PM SO I WANTED TO SHARE HER STORY FIRST BEFORE I SHARE MY OWN.
08:23:07PM AND WILL GIVE YOU MULTIPLE IDEAS OF WHAT IS GOING ON WITH
08:23:11PM REAL PEOPLE.
08:23:12PM AS A SENIOR OF A HUD HOUSING, THE INCREASE OF MY RENT IS
08:23:19PM GOING CRAZY.
08:23:20PM I AM JUST RECOVERING FROM BEING BEHIND IN MY RENT LAST
08:23:24PM MONTH.
08:23:24PM AND NOW THE RENT HAS INCREASED THIS MONTH.
08:23:28PM I RECEIVED AT CALLS -- STARTING -- I ALREADY SHARED THAT
08:23:36PM WITH YOU.
08:23:36PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY IF IT
08:23:43PM IS A PROBLEM WITH BLACK, WHITE BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE JUST AS
08:23:47PM MANY BLACK ON THE CORNER.
08:23:49PM YOU CAN SEE WHITE ON THE CORNER.
08:23:50PM BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, IT IS A PROBLEM.
08:23:52PM MY AUTO INSURANCE HAS WENT UP.
08:23:55PM MY MONTHLY RENT HAS WENT UP.
08:23:59PM I AM LIVING ON A FIXED INCOME.
08:24:00PM AT LEAST I WAS AND I AM BEING TRYING TO WORK SOME MORE WITH
08:24:05PM MY DISABILITIES.
08:24:06PM WITH ALL OF THAT BEING TOLD TO YOU, I HOPE YOU HAVE A HEART
08:24:11PM TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE WORKING ON.
08:24:13PM SO IF YOU INCREASE SOMETHING ELSE AGAIN, THAT WILL INCREASE
08:24:17PM ME MORE.
08:24:18PM AND IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO LIVE.
08:24:19PM AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A HEART.
08:24:21PM THANK YOU.
08:24:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:24:24PM YES, SIR.
08:24:25PM >> HI, MAY TIME IN IS CHARLIE ADAMS, TAMPA NATIVE.
08:24:32PM I GREW UP IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
08:24:36PM I WENT TO SULPHUR SPRINGS ELEMENTARY.
08:24:40PM I AM FOR THE CHANGES THAT WE SEE WITH REGARDS TO FUNDING.
08:24:45PM AND IN PARTICULAR, FIXING OUR ROADS AND FIXING OUR STREETS.
08:24:48PM YOU KNOW, I HAD FRIENDS, CHILDREN -- FRIENDS, THEIR CHILDREN
08:24:54PM HIT BY CARS IN THE AREA.
08:24:56PM SO -- FOR THE CITY TO MAKE A DECISION ON YUKON STREET COME
08:25:03PM IN, AND THE WATER TOWER TO COME IN AND INVEST IN OUR AREA IS
08:25:06PM GREAT.
08:25:07PM NOW I LOVE TO SEE THAT.
08:25:08PM I WANT TO SEE THAT.
08:25:10PM HAPPEN IN MY AREA AND COMMUNITY.
08:25:13PM I WAS BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY TRYING TO IGNITE THE AREA OR
08:25:18PM IGNITE THE AREA AND DOING RIVER TOURS, COMMUNITY CLEANUPS.
08:25:22PM SO TO SEE THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA IS NOW -- TO SEE THE CITY
08:25:28PM OF TAMPA IS NOT HAVING SULPHUR SPRINGS ON THE MAP WITH
08:25:31PM REGARDS TO REDEVELOPING THE AREA AND BRINGING MORE
08:25:35PM RESOURCES, I AM ALL FOR IT.
08:25:36PM BUT NEEDLESS TO SAY, AS RESOURCES COME AND CHANGES ARE MADE,
08:25:42PM YOU KNOW, BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO COME AND PEOPLE ARE GOING
08:25:45PM TO BENEFIT FROM THAT.
08:25:50PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE FROM THAT AREA BENEFIT
08:25:53PM AS WELL.
08:25:54PM THE ONES THAT LOOK LIKE ME.
08:25:56PM THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE A VOICE, THAT ARE OVERLOOKED
08:26:00PM BECAUSE OF THE STIGMA OF THE AREA.
08:26:02PM I AM THEM.
08:26:02PM SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL VOICES ARE HEARD AND WE ARE
08:26:07PM NOT FORGOTTEN.
08:26:09PM AND THAT WHEN WE ASK FOR HELP AND WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT HAS
08:26:13PM GOING TO GENUINELY HEAR US AND ACTUALLY GIVE SUPPORT THAT WE
08:26:19PM REALLY NEED.
08:26:19PM THANK YOU.
08:26:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
08:26:23PM YES, MA'AM.
08:26:23PM >> HELLO.
08:26:27PM MY NAME IS LAURA RODRIGUEZ.
08:26:30PM AND I AM RECENTLY MOVED TO EAST TAMPA.
08:26:32PM I AM A MEMBER AND REPRESENTATIVE OF TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY
08:26:35PM ACTION COMMITTEE, A GRASS-ROOTS ORGANIZATION THAT IS FOR
08:26:38PM POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY.
08:26:39PM I AM ALSO ONE OF FIVE PROTESTERS ARRESTED WHILE PROTESTING
08:26:42PM RON DeSANTIS ATTACKS ON DIVERSITY AND HIGHER EDUCATION WHERE
08:26:47PM WE FACE FIVE TO TEN YEARS IN PRISON ON BOGUS CHARGES.
08:26:51PM I, MYSELF, WAS DRAGGED ON THE FLOOR, SLAMMED INTO THE WALLS,
08:26:57PM HAD AN ARM AROUND MY NECK BY USF PD.
08:27:02PM AND, YEAH.
08:27:03PM AND I'M HERE TONIGHT AS I WAS ABOUT A YEAR AGO TO LET YOU
08:27:08PM ALL KNOW AND LET THE -- THAT WE NEED TO MAKE HOUSING OUR
08:27:12PM NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR BOTH RENTERS AND OWNERS.
08:27:15PM EVERY DAY ON MY DRIVE TO WORK, THERE IS A NEW PERSON ON THE
08:27:18PM CORNER.
08:27:19PM EVERY DAY IS A NEW FACE.
08:27:20PM EVERY DAY IS THE SAME STORY AS BEFORE.
08:27:22PM THAT RENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS TOO HIGH, AND OUR PAY ARE
08:27:26PM NOT ENOUGH.
08:27:27PM MY EXPERIENCE IS NOT MUCH DIFFERENT FROM THEIRS.
08:27:31PM I SLEPT IN MY CAR.
08:27:34PM I SLEPT ON FRIENDS' COUCHES.
08:27:36PM A LITTLE OVER A MONTH AGO I CAME BEFORE Y'ALL TO TALK ABOUT
08:27:39PM HOUSING AND TO LET YOU KNOW SOME UNION STUFF THAT WAS GOING
08:27:42PM ON.
08:27:42PM BUT THREE MINUTES PRIOR TO COMING UP AND TALKING, I GOT A
08:27:46PM CALL TELLING ME THAT I WAS DENIED RENT APPLICATION FOR ABOUT
08:27:51PM THE SIXTH TIME.
08:27:52PM EVEN THOUGH ALL OF MY ROOMMATES AND I WERE EMPLOYED.
08:27:56PM WE WORKED ABOUT 40 HOURS.
08:27:58PM EVERYBODY ABOVE $15 PER HOUR.
08:28:01PM SINCE THEN, WE HAVE THANKFULLY FOUND HOUSING BUT THAT HAS
08:28:05PM COME AT A CRAZY HIGH COST.
08:28:07PM $12,000.
08:28:10PM YEAH.
08:28:10PM SO BECAUSE WE DON'T MAKE ENOUGH MONEY.
08:28:13PM BECAUSE WE ARE YOUNG.
08:28:17PM EVEN THOUGH WE ALL HAVE COLLEGE DEGREES.
08:28:19PM WE HAD TO PUT TWO MONTHS DOWN FOR THE SECURITY DEPOSIT.
08:28:24PM ONE MONTH FOR THE RENTAL FEE.
08:28:26PM THE ELECTRICITY DEPOSIT, THE WATER DEPOSIT, THE WI-FI AND
08:28:33PM THE RENTERS INSURANCE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WAS OKAY.
08:28:36PM BECAUSE WE ARE IN A FLOOD ZONE.
08:28:38PM EVERYBODY SAYS WE NEED TO PREPARE FOR A HURRICANE.
08:28:40PM AND, YOU KNOW, IN THAT -- WHEN I WAS LIKE LOOKING FOR
08:28:45PM RENTERS INSURANCE, THE QUESTION THAT CAME UP OVER AND OVER
08:28:48PM AGAIN IS HOW FAR AWAY DO YOU LIVE IN A FIRE DEPARTMENT?
08:28:51PM HAND THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN TAMPA.
08:28:53PM LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS COME TO YOU ALL SAYING WE NEED
08:28:56PM MORE -- YOU KNOW, MORE, LIKE, ACTUAL -- BUILDINGS.
08:29:02PM AND LIKE WHAT -- WHAT RENTERS INSURANCE DOESN'T ASK FOR, DO
08:29:09PM POLICE OFFICERS HAVE THE LATEST AND GREATEST iPHONE.
08:29:11PM THE $2,000 TO PAY iPHONE PUTS SOMEONE IN A HOUSE, A DEPOSIT
08:29:18PM FOR APARTMENT HOUSING.
08:29:20PM I AM ONE OF MANY STORIES HERE IN TAMPA.
08:29:22PM ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT CITIES TO LIVE IN.
08:29:24PM I DON'T WANT TO MOVE.
08:29:25PM I HAVE -- I DON'T THINK I CAN MOVE, IF I CAN BE HONEST WITH
08:29:29PM THE CHARGES.
08:29:29PM BUT, YEAH, HOUSES NEED TO BE THE NUMBER ONE.
08:29:33PM THANK YOU.
08:29:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:29:36PM NEXT SPEAKER.
08:29:37PM >> HI.
08:29:40PM MY NAME IS SIMON ROWE.
08:29:43PM I'M HERE TO SPEAK OF HOUSING AND FUNDING FOR THE POLICE
08:29:46PM DEPARTMENT HERE IN TAMPA LOOKING AT THIS MILLAGE INCREASE,
08:29:51PM SO MUCH IS SET ASIDE FOR HOUSING ALONE.
08:29:54PM I MEAN COMPARED TO HOW MUCH MONEY I HAVE.
08:29:57PM BUT IT IS STILL SO SMALL COMPARED TO WHAT THE REST IS GOING
08:30:01PM TO.
08:30:01PM HONESTLY, WE NEED TO HAVE -- NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
08:30:05PM MONEY FOR HOUSING IS MATCHING THE NEED.
08:30:07PM AND THE NEED IS SO, SO GREAT RIGHT NOW.
08:30:10PM AND WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT PEOPLE NEED.
08:30:12PM I KEEP HEARING WHEN PEOPLE COME UP, WHAT PEOPLE NEED.
08:30:16PM BUT I AM NOT TRYING TO FOCUS ON MYSELF HERE.
08:30:19PM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE NEEDING HOUSING.
08:30:21PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FAMILIES.
08:30:24PM WE ARE TALKING OF SENIORS.
08:30:25PM WE ARE TALKING OF DISABLED PEOPLE.
08:30:27PM PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR YOU, WHO ARE COMING UP HERE PLEADING AND
08:30:30PM CRYING FOR MORE HELP BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE OUT ON
08:30:33PM THE STREET BECAUSE THAT IS WHO IS AT RISK HERE WITHOUT
08:30:37PM ENOUGH MONEY FOR HOUSING.
08:30:38PM YEAH, BECAUSE I HAD TO MOVE RECENTLY, YOU KNOW, MY RENT UP
08:30:42PM BY $300.
08:30:43PM AND -- OF THE -- HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO LIVE AND HOW AM I
08:30:52PM SUPPOSED TO BE AFRAID OF BEING HOMELESS EVERY TWO OR THREE
08:30:55PM YEARS EVERY TIME I HAVE TO MOVE.
08:30:56PM IT IS TERRIFYING TRYING TO FIND HOUSING IN THIS CITY.
08:30:59PM AND TO HEAR THAT.
08:31:00PM AND THEN TO HEAR POLICE OFFICERS COME UP AND TALK ABOUT HOW
08:31:04PM THEY NEED NEW CARS BECAUSE THEIR CARS ARE TOO OLD.
08:31:09PM MY CAR IS 13 YEARS OLD.
08:31:10PM THE AVERAGE CAR IS ON THE ROAD IS 12 AND A HALF YEARS OLD.
08:31:16PM IT IS NOT A NEED.
08:31:18PM AND PEOPLE NEED HOUSING TO SURVIVE.
08:31:20PM POLICE DON'T NEED A BRAND-NEW PHONE.
08:31:27PM AND ALSO TO CORRECT A POINT, VIOLENT CRIME IS NOT.
08:31:30PM YOU.OFTEN A JUSTIFICATION OF INCREASING THE POLICE BUDGET,
08:31:34PM BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE DATA TO SUPPORT THAT.
08:31:37PM EVEN IF IT IS TRUE THAT VIOLENT CRIME IS UP IN THE CITY OF
08:31:42PM TAMPA, WE HAVE INCREASED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FUNDING YEAR
08:31:45PM AFTER YEAR.
08:31:45PM WHY HAVEN'T THAT DONE ANYTHING TO CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF
08:31:50PM VIOLENT CRIME IN THE CITY.
08:31:51PM WE SPEND A THIRD OF THE CITY BUDGET ON POLICE.
08:31:54PM AND IT IS NOT GOING -- IT IS NOT GOING TO HELP A LOT OF
08:31:58PM PEOPLE AS MUCH AS HOUSING WOULD.
08:32:00PM AS MUCH AS MORE MONEY FOR HOUSING CAN CHANGE LIVES AND KEEP
08:32:03PM PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES.
08:32:04PM KEEP PEOPLE FROM THE HORRIFIC TRAUMA OF BEING HOMELESS.
08:32:09PM AND INSTEAD, WE HAVE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT BIGGER CARS, YOU
08:32:15PM KNOW.
08:32:15PM IT'S -- IT IS KIND OF RIDICULOUS.
08:32:18PM MY CONCERN -- THE VIOLENT CRIME I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS
08:32:21PM ABOUT THE KIND COMMITTED BY POLICE BECAUSE OF SOMEONE HARMS
08:32:25PM ME, I CAN FILE CHARGES AGAIN THEM.
08:32:27PM BUT IF A POLICE OFFICER HARMS KNEE, WHAT CAN I DO?
08:32:30PM IT HAS HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE.
08:32:32PM I HAVE BEEN GROPED BY A POLICE OFFICER.
08:32:34PM WHAT SORT OF CIRCUMSTANCE COULD I DO?
08:32:37PM WHEN THE TAMPA FIVE WERE BRUTALIZED.
08:32:41PM WHAT COULD THEY HAVE DONE.
08:32:44PM PLEASE DO SOMETHING.
08:32:46PM THANK YOU.
08:32:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:32:48PM NEXT SPEAKER.
08:32:48PM >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS ALICE MOORE, LIFE-LONG, BORN AND
08:32:53PM RAISED.
08:32:54PM KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TAMPA LOOKS LIKE USED TO AND NOW.
08:32:56PM THERE WERE A FEW THINGS THAT WERE BEING MENTIONED.
08:32:59PM HOUSING IS MY MAIN THING AND GETTING PEOPLE -- BUT I WOULD
08:33:03PM LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING IN THE REFERENCE TO THE PARKS.
08:33:07PM RIDING AROUND TAMPA, EVERY PARK LOOKS MUCH BETTER THAN CYRUS
08:33:13PM GREEN.
08:33:13PM CYRUS GREEN IS OLDER THAN THE SEAWALL THAT THE MAN WAS
08:33:18PM TALKING ABOUT.
08:33:18PM NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
08:33:19PM RIDICULOUS TO SEE HOW ALL THE OTHER NABTDZ, PARKS.
08:33:23PM SOME PEOPLE DON'T KNOW -- A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THERE
08:33:27PM ARE PARKS IN CERTAIN AREAS.
08:33:28PM I THINK WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON THAT.
08:33:31PM AL LOPEZ PARK USED TO NOT HAVE BENCHES WHEN YOU WALK AROUND.
08:33:35PM NOW THEY HAVE BENCHES.
08:33:37PM THEY WENT THE SIDEWALK GO ALL THE WAY FROM THE SIDE TO THE
08:33:41PM STREET OF KENNEDY -- TO DALE MABRY.
08:33:43PM THE MAIN THING OF HOUSING.
08:33:45PM YOU ARE LISTENING TO ALL OF THIS.
08:33:49PM A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T QUALIFY FOR ASSISTANCE.
08:33:51PM THAT IS ANOTHER REASON WHY THEY ARE SUFFERING.
08:33:54PM THEY CAN'T GET ANYTHING.
08:33:55PM HOUSING NEEDS TO BE -- WE WERE TRYING TO GET A REGISTER FOR
08:33:59PM THE HOME -- NOT HOMEOWNERS, BUT LANDLORDS, THAT NEEDS TO BE
08:34:04PM DONE.
08:34:05PM TODAY AS THE YOUNG LADY, I GOT A CALL, A GENTLEMAN OVER 60
08:34:09PM -- WELL, OVER 65.
08:34:11PM HAS BEEN EVICTED.
08:34:12PM NO NOTICE.
08:34:13PM SEVEN PEOPLE.
08:34:14PM SEVEN SENIOR CITIZENS LIVING IN A HOUSE.
08:34:16PM NO PLACE TO GO.
08:34:18PM THEY TURNED THE WATER OFF FOR AT THAT WEEK OVER -- DURING
08:34:22PM THE YEAR.
08:34:23PM THEY TURN THEIR LIGHTS OUT.
08:34:25PM THEY STAYED IN THE PLACE WITH NO LIGHTS.
08:34:27PM CODE ENFORCEMENT CAME OUT AND TOLD THEM IF THEY MOVED.
08:34:31PM THERE IS NO PLACE FOR THEM TO GO.
08:34:33PM NOW TODAY.
08:34:38PM THE SHERIFF CAME AND DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
08:34:44PM PUT EVERYTHING IN THE VAN.
08:34:50PM WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP THE HOMELESS PEOPLE.
08:34:53PM FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE FELONIES.
08:34:54PM EVERYBODY HAS A FELONY.
08:34:55PM SOME ARE 20 YEARS OLD.
08:34:57PM SOME OR WHATEVER.
08:34:58PM AND ONE GENTLEMAN HAD A HARD TIME GETTING AN APARTMENT.
08:35:01PM HE HAS BEEN ALL OVER.
08:35:02PM BECAUSE OF THE FELONY, HE WORKED 17 YEARS AT KRISPY KREME.
08:35:06PM HE IS ASSISTANT PASTOR.
08:35:08PM HE HAD HIS HOUSE.
08:35:09PM KRISPY KREME CHANGED MANAGEMENT AND THEY TOLD HIM GOODBYE.
08:35:13PM HE DOESN'T QUALIFY FOR ANYTHING.
08:35:20PM HOMELESS.
08:35:21PM THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES NEED TO BE CHANGED.
08:35:24PM THE INCOME.
08:35:25PM A LOT OF PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND WITH NO CAR INSURANCE BECAUSE
08:35:28PM THEY HAVE TO DECIDE WHERE TO RENT.
08:35:30PM HOW MUCH FOOD TO GET FOR THE KIDS AND JUST GET THE BASICS.
08:35:33PM A LOT OF PEOPLE -- AND THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ARRESTED
08:35:36PM IF THEY ARE STOPPED.
08:35:37PM THAT IS ANOTHER PROBLEM FOR THEM.
08:35:40PM BUT WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE.
08:35:42PM SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE CAN GET A PLACE PEOPLE WITH FELONS --
08:35:48PM SOME FELONS WILL CREATE AN ARGUMENT BECAUSE THE MOM GOT
08:35:52PM ANGRY WITH THE HUSBAND AND THE HUSBAND GOT ANGRY WITH THE
08:35:55PM WIFE.
08:35:55PM 20 YEARS LIVING.
08:35:57PM HE HAS OXYGEN HE HAS TO GET DONE.
08:35:59PM HE IS BARELY WALKING AND SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE LIKE THAT.
08:36:04PM AGAIN IF YOU WERE HEARING ALL OF THIS, EVERYBODY DOES NOT
08:36:07PM QUALIFY FOR FOOD STAMPS, ANY OTHER ASSISTANCE.
08:36:11PM SO THIS NEEDS TO BE DONE.
08:36:13PM THIS IS A SERIOUS THING.
08:36:15PM I AM LIKE THE LADY.
08:36:16PM I JUST THE OTHER DAY HAD SOMEONE -- THE RESTAURANT GIVE THE
08:36:19PM PEOPLE LAND LAYING ON THE STREET FOOD.
08:36:22PM VERY RIDICULOUS.
08:36:24PM I PAID FOR A FEW DINNERS FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET.
08:36:26PM I CRINGE WHEN I SEE PEOPLE LAYING ON BENCHES.
08:36:30PM WAKE UP.
08:36:30PM THIS IS A REALITY.
08:36:32PM STOP HELPING -- AND START STAKING CARE OF YOUR HOME.
08:36:36PM WE MOVED.
08:36:37PM NO PLACE TO GO.
08:36:38PM THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO GO ANYWHERE.
08:36:41PM NOT LET US STAY IN THE HISTORIC PLACE AND THE PLACES WE HAVE
08:36:45PM SEEN.
08:36:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:36:48PM >> THANK YOU.
08:36:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
08:36:49PM >> GOOD EVENING, JOSE VASQUEZ.
08:36:56PM A LOT OF PEOPLE ALREADY KNOW WHO I AM, BUT I'M HERE TODAY AS
08:37:01PM A RESIDENT.
08:37:02PM I LIVE ON 2222 NORTH FOREST STREET.
08:37:08PM THIS IS EAST TAMPA.
08:37:09PM I AM A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
08:37:10PM MY BUSINESS LOCATED 1916 NORTH 6 09S STREET.
08:37:14PM I WANT TO SHARE MY HISTORY SO NOBODY FEELS SORRY ABOUT ME.
08:37:21PM IT IS FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I TRY TO DO FOR THE
08:37:24PM COMMUNITY WHO COME TO ME LOOKING FOR RESOURCES.
08:37:27PM I WANT TO SHOW WITH YOU WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT.
08:37:30PM AND I AM GLAD RIGHT HERE THE CHIEF OF THE POLICE IS RIGHT
08:37:33PM HERE.
08:37:33PM SOMEBODY WAS SHOT AROUND ONE -- TWO BLOCKS FROM MY HOUSE AT
08:37:40PM THE GAS STATION.
08:37:40PM OKAY.
08:37:45PM THE FIRST THING I SEE WAS THE TAMPA UNIT.
08:37:48PM THE NEXT THING I SEE WAS AROUND FIVE OR SIX POLICE CARS
08:37:53PM RUSHING TO THE SCENE.
08:37:54PM I ALREADY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
08:37:57PM I ALREADY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE FIRE RESCUE ARRIVED.
08:38:02PM AND I AM HAPPY WITH THE TIME OF RESPONSE OF THE CITY OF
08:38:05PM TAMPA POLICE AND FIRE RESCUE.
08:38:07PM THE FIRST TIME IN NINE YEARS LIVING IN THAT AREA THAT I SAW
08:38:12PM THE POLICE CAR.
08:38:16PM I ONLY SHARE THAT TO YOU BECAUSE ALL THE PEOPLE COMPLAIN
08:38:19PM ABOUT THE PROBLEMS, BUT DO NOT BRING YOU SOLUTIONS.
08:38:22PM I SHARE THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE I AM CERTIFIED FIRST
08:38:29PM RESPONDER.
08:38:30PM FLORIDA STATE FIRE FIGHTERS ASSOCIATION.
08:38:32PM I AM A PERSON AS A COMMUNITY AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM.
08:38:39PM WE WERE ACTIVE FIELD WHERE EVERYBODY WAS WORRIED ABOUT WATER
08:38:46PM AND HOW TO TAKE CARE OF THE STORM.
08:38:48PM WE PREPARED AND ETC., ETC.
08:38:51PM A LOT OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE EDUCATED TO
08:38:54PM UNDERSTAND HOW THE POLICE AND THE FIRE RESCUE TEAM WORK.
08:38:58PM I HAVE SHARED ALL THIS WITH YOU BECAUSE I AM 100% ABOUT --
08:39:07PM AGAINST THE MAYOR MILLAGE INCREASE.
08:39:10PM 100% AGAINST.
08:39:13PM ALL YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND.
08:39:15PM SHE IS THE MAYOR OF A CITY OF OVER 375,000 RESIDENTS.
08:39:21PM AND ONLY AROUND 22,000, 23,000 VOTE FOR HER.
08:39:28PM THINK OF THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T GO AND VOTE.
08:39:33PM THIS IS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE ON TAMPA RIGHT NOW.
08:39:36PM I DEPEND ON SOCIAL SECURITY, $661 A MONTH.
08:39:42PM I HAD A KNEE SURGERY COST $18,000 BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE PAY
08:39:49PM THE BILL.
08:39:49PM CODE ENFORCEMENT MADE A MISTAKE ON THE PROPERTY I RENT,
08:39:53PM APPLICANT AND I AM NOT OPERATING IN THE LAST TWO YEARS BUT I
08:39:56PM CONTINUE TO KEEP MY BUSINESS OPEN.
08:39:58PM I HAVE TO SHARE ALL THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE IT IS VERY
08:40:00PM IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN NOT DO THAT
08:40:03PM MILLAGE INCREASE.
08:40:04PM CALLED ME.
08:40:06PM VERY SERIOUS.
08:40:07PM JOSE, LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED.
08:40:09PM IF THEY APPROVE ARE, YOU GO THE TO PAY THE CONSEQUENCE.
08:40:12PM I AM GOING TO INCREASE YOU MY PROPERTY RENT.
08:40:16PM I AM GOING TO INCREASE MY BUSINESS.
08:40:18PM GUESS WHAT?
08:40:20PM I PAY SALES TAX ON A DAILY BASIS.
08:40:23PM I PAY INTEREST REQUIRED FOR OPERATING.
08:40:26PM BEEN MAKING PROFIT.
08:40:30PM I NEED TO PAY WATER, ELECTRICITY, ETC., ETC.
08:40:33PM I NEED TO SHARE ALL THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU SEE ME AROUND,
08:40:36PM BECAUSE I TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE BLAME ALL THE TAME OF
08:40:41PM ELECTED OFFICIALS, THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO CONTRIBUTE.
08:40:47PM LAST TIME, PLEASE, IF YOU WANT TO INCREASE OUR REVENUE,
08:40:51PM PLEASE, GO AGAINST THE ALCOHOL.
08:40:53PM IF EVERYBODY DRINKING A BEER AND PAY $25 EXTRA, WE HAVE
08:40:59PM EXTRA MONEY TO SUPPORT THE HOMELESS, EVERYBODY, THE
08:41:02PM DEPARTMENTS.
08:41:02PM SO, PLEASE HELP WITH THE HOUSING.
08:41:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
08:41:08PM YES, MA'AM.
08:41:09PM >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAMA JUDGE.
08:41:12PM AND I AM COMING TO YOU WITH A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
08:41:15PM ALMOST LIKE THE LAST GUY AS A BUSINESS OWNER.
08:41:18PM I WANT TO SAY I HEARD COUNCILWOMAN GWEN SPEAK ON SATURDAY
08:41:27PM AND SAID HOW MUCH IT WILL COST THE EAST TAMPA.
08:41:30PM I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, AND I WAS TOTALLY AGAINST IT.
08:41:33PM $6, NOT BAD.
08:41:36PM I LOOKED IT UP.
08:41:37PM AND I JUST DID RANDOM CHECKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA OF
08:41:41PM PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
08:41:42PM AND I LOOKED UP -- WHAT YOU GUYS PAY AS WELL.
08:41:44PM AND SO HERE IS WHAT -- AT FIRST YOU HAVE SOLD ME.
08:41:50PM BECAUSE I WAS TOTALLY AGAINST IT.
08:41:52PM I HAVE A SMALL -- GENERALLY WHEN THAT STUFF GOES OFF, I
08:42:01PM PASSES THAT ON TO MY TENANTS.
08:42:02PM I DON'T EAT THAT COST.
08:42:03PM I CAN'T EAT IT.
08:42:05PM DID I SAY -- WELL, MAYBE I WILL FOR THIS TIME.
08:42:08PM BUT WHAT WAS AMAZING TO ME, IS AS I WAS LOOKING UP PEOPLE IN
08:42:12PM EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, NEW TAMPA, PARTICULARLY SULPHUR
08:42:19PM SPRINGS, I FOUND SO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T PAID THEIR 2022
08:42:24PM TAXES.
08:42:24PM SO THOSE PEOPLE ARE CATCHING -- I KNOW -- I CAN'T CURSE,
08:42:29PM CATCHING TROUBLE.
08:42:31PM AND SO WHEN WE SAYS IT ONLY $6.
08:42:35PM MAY ONLY BE $6 FOR YOU AND I, BUT GOT TO BE SOMETHING FOR
08:42:39PM THEM BECAUSE ANOTHER $100.
08:42:41PM IF THEY DIDN'T PAY -- AND THE AVERAGE PERSON IN EAST TAMPA
08:42:44PM THAT I WAS LOOKING AT, THESE BILLS WERE $400, $500, $600.
08:42:49PM I WOULD THINK -- SOMEBODY WOULD EVEN THINK MINE -- I AM
08:42:52PM PAYING LIKE $4,000, WHICH I AM HAVING A FIT OVER.
08:42:55PM I EVEN HAD TO CALL THE PROPERTY APPRAISAL FOR MY 2022,
08:43:01PM BECAUSE I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS TOO MUCH.
08:43:03PM IT HAS GONE UP SINCE 2018 ALMOST $2,000.
08:43:07PM AND.
08:43:12PM I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW I LET IT GO BECAUSE WE SPLIT IT
08:43:17PM AMONGST ALL THE TENS.
08:43:20PM AND THESE PEOPLE CAN'T KEEP DOING THAT.
08:43:22PM I AM WITH FLORIDA RISING.
08:43:23PM I KNOW WE NEED SOMETHING DONE, BUT I THINK IF WE INCREASE
08:43:26PM THIS, WE ARE NOW GOING TO CREATE PROBLEMS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO
08:43:30PM ALREADY AREN'T PAYING THEIRS.
08:43:33PM THEY ARE GOING TO LOSE THEIR HOMES.
08:43:35PM THESE PEOPLE HAVE -- AND PEOPLE I KNEW.
08:43:37PM I HAD TO CALL THEM UP AND SAY, HEY, YOU HAVE A CERTIFICATE.
08:43:40PM SOMEONE HAS BOUGHT THE CERTIFICATE.
08:43:42PM AND THEN I CALLED THEIR CHILDREN.
08:43:44PM PAY YOUR MOM'S BILL.
08:43:46PM DO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN.
08:43:48PM BUT EVERYBODY -- AND YOU GUYS -- I SENT OUT AN E-MAIL TO YOU
08:43:54PM GUYS LAST WEEK.
08:43:55PM AND ANOTHER ONE TODAY.
08:43:56PM JUST HOW MUCH MORE MONEY I AM PAYING JUST IN TAXES ON MY
08:44:01PM UTILITIES.
08:44:02PM ALMOST $3,000.
08:44:05PM THIS -- IT IS TOO MUCH.
08:44:07PM IT IS TOO MUCH.
08:44:08PM I KNOW YOU GUYS.
08:44:12PM THANK YOU.
08:44:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
08:44:14PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:44:15PM YES, SIR.
08:44:15PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL MECHANICS.
08:44:23PM MY NAME IS MICHAEL McNABB.
08:44:24PM I AM PRESIDENT OF PALMA CEIA WEST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
08:44:28PM AND A RESIDENT OF TAMPA SINCE 1972.
08:44:30PM SO I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGES HERE.
08:44:33PM I THINK WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS WHAT I WOULD CALL A PERFECT
08:44:38PM STORM.
08:44:38PM INFLATION CREATED BY OUR GOVERNMENT HAS MADE EVERYTHING GO
08:44:43PM UP.
08:44:43PM FOOD, RENT, PROPERTY INSURANCE, IF YOU CAN GET IT.
08:44:49PM CAR INSURANCE.
08:44:50PM UTILITIES.
08:44:51PM GAS, DRUGS, HEALTH CARE.
08:44:54PM THERE IS A LONGER LIST THAN THAT.
08:44:56PM EVERYTHING HAS GONE UP IN PRICE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
08:45:00PM AND NOW WE WANT TO RAISE THE PROPERTY MILLAGE TO ADD ON TO
08:45:05PM THAT, THAT INCREASE.
08:45:06PM IT IS CRUSHING PEOPLE.
08:45:07PM I JUST READ THAT 50% OF PEOPLE ARE LIVING PAYCHECK TO
08:45:15PM PAYCHECK.
08:45:15PM I ALSO READ THAT 65% OF PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES -- AND I
08:45:20PM AM SURE TAMPA -- COULD NOT RAISED 400 FOR AN EMERGENCY, IF
08:45:25PM THEY HAD TO.
08:45:26PM IT IS REALLY SAD.
08:45:28PM THERE IS NO QUESTION OUR ROADS ARE WORN OUT.
08:45:32PM THE ROADS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAVEN'T BEEN PAVED WITH ONE
08:45:36PM EXCEPTION SINCE I MOVED THERE IN THE 70s.
08:45:38PM AND THEY ARE FULL OF POTHOLES BECAUSE NO ADMINISTRATION SET
08:45:42PM ASIDE ENOUGH MONEY TO REALLY FIX THESE ROADS.
08:45:44PM NOW THEY ARE -- NOW THEY ARE TOTALLY DESTROYED.
08:45:47PM AND THEY HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY REDONE.
08:45:49PM IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT THAT HAPPENED.
08:45:52PM THEY JUST KICKED THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
08:45:55PM BUT WITH ALL THE NEW CONSTRUCTION IN TAMPA, WE ARE REALLY IN
08:46:00PM A BOON.
08:46:00PM YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF UNITS DOWN IN -- DOWN IN
08:46:04PM PORT TAMPA AREA.
08:46:06PM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, A MILLION PLUS.
08:46:09PM I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE IS NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO
08:46:13PM START FIXING THESE THINGS WITH ALL THE -- ALL THIS NEW
08:46:16PM CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
08:46:17PM ROME AVENUE.
08:46:19PM ALL AROUND THE CITY.
08:46:20PM BRAND-NEW UNITS THAT ARE FULL.
08:46:22PM AND THERE OUGHT TO BE MONEY SOMEWHERE TO DO THAT.
08:46:25PM ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS DROPPED ME A NOTE.
08:46:28PM AND SAID THIS.
08:46:29PM IF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS ALLOCATED $124 NOW, 210,214 OUT
08:46:38PM OF THE 570 MILLION TRANSPORTATION TAX, THE ONE-CENT TAX, AND
08:46:45PM THAT IS INTEREST ON THAT MONEY THAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS
08:46:49PM GIVEN TO THE CITY, I WONDERED IF THE BUDGET DIRECTOR
08:46:52PM CAN TELL ME, IS THAT IN THE BUDGET?
08:46:54PM AND IS THAT TRUE?
08:46:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT MONEY SOMEBODY TIDE UP IN
08:46:59PM TALLAHASSEE AND WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS AND NEITHER DO THE
08:47:03PM COUNTY.
08:47:03PM OUR PORTION IS $60, $80 MILLION.
08:47:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OVER $100 MILLION.
08:47:08PM IF YOU WANT THAT MONEY, TALK TO THE REPS IN TALLAHASSEE.
08:47:14PM >> I THINK POTENTIALLY THE MONEY WILL COME THROUGH, BUT A
08:47:17PM LOT OF TALK ABOUT HOUSING AND I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT TOO.
08:47:19PM BUT WHEN YOU RAISE PROPERTY TAXES, THE LANDLORDS PASS THAT
08:47:23PM STRAIGHT THROUGH TO THE RENTERS WHEN THE LEASE COMES UP.
08:47:27PM THEY DON'T ABSORB THAT.
08:47:29PM THAT IS ANTI-HOUSING IF YOU PUSH THAT UP ESPECIALLY FOR
08:47:33PM LANDLORDS.
08:47:33PM I THINK THE TIMING IS TERRIBLE FOR THIS.
08:47:35PM I AGREE MAYBE MONEY IS NEEDED, BUT THE TIMING IS JUST AWFUL.
08:47:41PM I THINK -- I THINK SOMEONE NEEDS TO SHARPEN THE PENCIL AND
08:47:46PM GO LOOK FOR FAT IN THE BUDGET AND SEE IF THEY CAN CUT SOME
08:47:50PM THINGS OUT THAT ARE PROBABLY UNNECESSARY FOR THE TIME BEING.
08:47:52PM THANK YOU.
08:47:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:47:55PM NEXT SPEAKER.
08:47:56PM >> GOOD EVENING.
08:47:59PM MY NAME IS SHARON GRAHAM.
08:48:01PM AND I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE
08:48:07PM PEOPLE OF TAMPA.
08:48:10PM I HAVE A PRIVATE PRACTICE HERE THAT SERVES TAMPA AND BEYOND.
08:48:15PM AND I -- I'M HERE REALLY ON BEHALF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT
08:48:25PM ABLE TO IT BE HERE.
08:48:25PM THAT IS WHERE MY CONCERN LIES, AND SO THINGS THAT ARE --
08:48:36PM WHICH THAT I DISAGREE WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET ALLOCATION
08:48:40PM THAT HAVE BEEN DOCUMENTED AND I ALSO HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS
08:48:46PM REGARDING THE LACK OF RETAIL AND TRANSPARENCY.
08:48:49PM ADMITTEDLY, I HAD NOT HAD ENOUGH TIME TO DIG IN TO THAT
08:48:56PM DOCUMENT, BUT -- AND I -- I KNOW FROM KNOWING SOME OF YOU,
08:49:02PM YOU KNOW, WHAT A GARGANTUAN TASK THAT BE IS.
08:49:05PM SO I -- I, AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
08:49:09PM TO THE COMMUNITY.
08:49:11PM AND I AM JUST HERE TO IMPLORE YOU TO RECOGNIZE THE CITY
08:49:18PM BUDGET AS A VALUE STATEMENT.
08:49:22PM AND TO PLEASE PRIORITIZE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE PEOPLE
08:49:29PM WHO DO NOT HAVE AGENCY AND ABILITY TO GET HERE TO THESE CITY
08:49:34PM COUNCIL MEETINGS.
08:49:35PM REALLY IMPLORING YOU TO PRIORITIZE THE PEOPLE WHO NEED IT
08:49:41PM MOST.
08:49:42PM OKAY.
08:49:43PM AND ALSO, SO AFFORDABILITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ACCESS AND
08:49:50PM AGENCY TO THAT.
08:49:52PM NOT ONLY TO RENTING BUT TO BEING ABLE TO OWN HOMES, TO
08:49:57PM GETTING PEOPLE INTO THE POSITION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT
08:50:01PM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE FUNDS SAL KATED TO EDUCATING AND
08:50:05PM GETTING PEOPLE TO THAT POSITION.
08:50:07PM AND ALSO, ACCESSIBILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED EXTRA
08:50:13PM ACCOMMODATIONS.
08:50:14PM JUST THE UPMOST IMPORTANCE.
08:50:16PM THE BUDGET SHOWS WHERE IS OUR VALUES LIE.
08:50:19PM AND SOME I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERIOUS CONSIDERATION FOR
08:50:23PM THAT.
08:50:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:50:26PM YES, SIR.
08:50:28PM ARE YOU SPEAKING TOGETHER OR ONE AFTER THE OTHER.
08:50:36PM >> TOGETHER.
08:50:36PM >> TOGETHER.
08:50:37PM >> PLEASE STATE BOTH OF YOUR NAMES PLEASE.
08:50:40PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBER, PHIL AND MY COLLEAGUE
08:50:46PM JED TUJOG.
08:50:48PM WE ARE HERE WITH THE BATTLE FAMILY OFFICE TO DISCUSS OUR
08:50:52PM PROJECT IN THE ENCORE DISTRICT.
08:50:54PM 2022, ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE TAMPA HOUSING
08:50:57PM AUTHORITY WITH LOT 12 WITH ENCORE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
08:51:00PM OUR OBJECTIVE IN PURCHASING THIS PARCEL WAS TO HELP DEVELOP
08:51:04PM THE USES WHICH HAVE BEEN LONG NEEDED INSIDE THE ENCORE
08:51:07PM COMMUNITY TO COMPLETE THE VISION THAT WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING
08:51:11PM TO DEVELOP FOR THE GREATER PART OF TWO DECADES.
08:51:14PM TO DATE, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL HAS BEEN
08:51:17PM DEVELOPED WITHIN ENCORE, BUT IN ADDITION TO MORE
08:51:21PM RESIDENTIAL, THE COMMUNITY IS IN NEED OF EXCESS ACCESS TO
08:51:25PM HEALTH CARE AND THE GROCER.
08:51:28PM OUR PROJECT BEING SUBMITTED FOR PERMITTING WILL INCREASE
08:51:31PM ACCESS TO BOTH HEALTH CARE AND GROCERY, 30,000 SQUARE FEET
08:51:35PM OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL ALLOCATED TO A GROCER AND 40,000 SQUARE
08:51:40PM FETAL KATED TO MEDICAL OFFICE.
08:51:41PM BEYOND INCREASING ACCESSIBILITY TO QUALITY, AFFORDABLE
08:51:46PM HEALTH CARE, GROCERY AND FRESH PREPARED FOODS, COMMERCE,
08:51:52PM JOBS AND TAX BASE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA DOWNTOWN.
08:51:55PM THE GROCER FRESH PREPARED FOODS, FROZEN, BAKERY, ETC. AS
08:52:02PM WELL AS SEATING AREAS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
08:52:03PM THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MEDICAL OFFICE ALSO BRING TENANTS
08:52:07PM SUCH AS TAMPA FAMILY HEALTH.
08:52:08PM THIS TENANT ALONE WILL ACCOUNT FOR 10,000 PATIENT VISITS AND
08:52:13PM 4,000 PRESCRIPTIONS FILLED ANNUALLY AT THIS SITE ALONE.
08:52:16PM UNFORTUNATELY AS CONSTRUCTION COSTS AND INTEREST RATES HAVE
08:52:21PM RISEN EVERY MONTH SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THIS PROJECT, MORE
08:52:24PM AND MORE CHALLENGING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH WITHOUT THE
08:52:28PM SUPPORT OF THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY.
08:52:29PM WE ARE HERE TO MAKE TWO REQUESTS.
08:52:31PM FIRST WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT AND REQUEST A
08:52:34PM MOTION FOR CRA STAFF TO REPORT BACK TO YOU AT EITHER THE
08:52:38PM SEPTEMBER 14 CRA MEETING OR SEPTEMBER 19 CITY BUDGET MEETING
08:52:42PM TO ADVISE YOU OF AN AMOUNT OF UNENCUMBERED OR UNALLOCATED
08:52:47PM FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE WHERE THAT COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE
08:52:50PM FROM THE CENTRAL PARK CRA WHICH COULD BE USED TO SUPPORT
08:52:53PM THIS PROJECT TO BRING A GROCERY STORE OR MEDICAL OFFICE TO
08:52:57PM ENCORE, AN AMENITY THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS BEEN
08:53:01PM TRYING TO BRING TO ENCORE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
08:53:03PM SECOND, WE ALSO REQUEST A MOTION TO PROVIDE FINANCIAL
08:53:06PM SUPPORT FROM THE CENTRAL PARK CRA TO THIS PROJECT TO BRING A
08:53:10PM GROCERY STORE TO ENCORE.
08:53:11PM THE AMOUNT TO IT BE DETERMINED BASED ON THE REPORT FROM THE
08:53:15PM CRA STAFF.
08:53:16PM LAST WEEK, WE SENT AN E-MAIL TO 50E67 OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY
08:53:19PM REGARDING THIS PROJECT.
08:53:20PM WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH EACH
08:53:23PM OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY ONCE YOU GUYS HAVE A REPORT BACK FROM
08:53:26PM THE CRA STAFF.
08:53:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THAT MOTION AT A
08:53:30PM CRA MEETING FORMALLY THEN.
08:53:32PM IT WOULDN'T BE FOR THOSE DATES THAT YOU MENTIONED.
08:53:35PM IT WOULD HAVE TO BE OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER WHENEVER WE MAKE
08:53:38PM THAT MOTION.
08:53:38PM AND WE WOULD DISCUSS IT THERE UNDER THE CRA BUSINESS.
08:53:41PM SINCE IT IS A SEPARATE BUDGET FROM WHAT WE ARE DISCUSSING
08:53:45PM NOW.
08:53:45PM >> NOT A PROBLEM.
08:53:47PM WE WERE TOLD IT FALLS WITHIN THE CITY'S BUDGET SO WE DIDN'T
08:53:50PM WANT TO MISS THE OPPORTUNITY.
08:53:51PM HE WILL BE BACK THEN AS WELL.
08:53:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DID RECEIVE YOUR E-MAIL.
08:53:54PM IF YOU SENT IT TO EVERYBODY, WE SHOULD HAVE IT IN THE IN
08:53:59PM BOX.
08:53:59PM THE NEXT CRA NIGHTING WITH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IS THE
08:54:04PM CHAIRWOMAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING THAT UP.
08:54:06PM >> THE QUESTION IS THE MECHANISM OF THE FUNDING FROM THE CRA
08:54:09PM BUDGET.
08:54:09PM THERE IS NO WAY TO, I GUESS -- I KNOW YOU HAD MENTIONED
08:54:12PM OBVIOUSLY THROUGH CONSTRAINTS ALL THE MONEY LOCKED IN THE
08:54:16PM CRA NO WAY TO ALLOCATE THAT BUDGET IN THIS QUORUM OR WHAT
08:54:20PM MONEY IS OUT THERE --
08:54:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN LOOK AT THE BUDGET AS A CRA IN
08:54:24PM THAT -- IN THAT SPECIFIC AREA.
08:54:25PM BUT IT WOULD BE -- IT IS A SEPARATE BUDGET FROM THE BUDGET
08:54:30PM WE ARE DISCUSSING TONIGHT.
08:54:31PM IF YOU WANT TO PARTNER UP -- YES, MA'AM --
08:54:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE IS ABOUT $1 MILLION IN THAT CRA AND
08:54:36PM THAT'S IT.
08:54:37PM JUST LETTING YOU KNOW.
08:54:38PM IT IS AS VERY SMALL CRA RIGHT NOW.
08:54:40PM MR. MASSEY RIGHT HERE IS OUR ATTORNEY FOR THE CRA.
08:54:43PM I AM SURE HE COULD STEP OUTSIDE AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT
08:54:48PM POSSIBILITIES.
08:54:48PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
08:54:49PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
08:54:50PM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
08:54:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
08:54:52PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE WITH A GRANT
08:54:56PM SUCCESS THROUGH THE CAC AT THE CRA.
08:54:59PM A WHOLE PROCESS A AND MISS TRAVIS --
08:55:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO OUTSIDE AND DISCUSS IT FURTHER.
08:55:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE MEETING.
08:55:07PM >> SEPTEMBER 14, THE NEXT MEETING.
08:55:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
08:55:09PM YES, SIR.
08:55:10PM >> HELLO, ALVARO, A RESIDENT OF THE CITY FOR THE PAST 20
08:55:18PM YEARS.
08:55:18PM MONTEALLEGRE.
08:55:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:55:23PM >> I WANT TO STATE MY OPPOSITION AGAINST THE RAISING OF THE
08:55:26PM MILLAGE -- THE PROPERTY MILLAGE.
08:55:29PM AGAINST THE WAY THE -- THE BUDGET IS BEING ALLOCATED.
08:55:35PM I FEEL THAT -- THAT MORE MONEY FOR HOUSING, RENT CONTROL,
08:55:39PM WHICH I THINK YOU HAVE REJECTED ALREADY, YOU KNOW, AGAINST
08:55:44PM THE WISHES AND ITS NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA AND -- AND
08:55:50PM NOT SUCH AN OUTRAGEOUS AMOUNT GOING TO THE POLICE.
08:55:54PM I WANT TO -- TALKING ABOUT HOUSING.
08:56:02PM I KNOW A GENTLEMAN WHO WORKS BUILDING HOMES AS A WORKER IN A
08:56:08PM CONSTRUCTION SITE BUILDING $400,000 HOMES TO HALF MILLION
08:56:14PM DOLLAR HOMES WHO HAS TO COME HOME TOLL A TENT, LIVING IN A
08:56:18PM TENT WITH TWO OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE HE HAS NO WAY OF PAYING
08:56:22PM FOR A ROOM.
08:56:23PM RECENTLY, THE POLICE TOLD THEM THEY HAVE TO LEAVE, THE LOT
08:56:31PM -- THE PLACE -- YOU KNOW, THE WOODED AREA WHERE THEY THOUGHT
08:56:34PM THEY WERE SAFE BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT THE STATE OWNED IT, SO
08:56:37PM THEY FELT, WE ARE SAFE HERE.
08:56:39PM WE CAN PUT A TENT UP AND SLEEP HERE.
08:56:41PM WELL, THE POLICE ARE PUSHING THEM OUT OF THERE.
08:56:43PM YOU KNOW.
08:56:44PM THIS IS THE SITUATION THAT YOU HAVE.
08:56:46PM AND I THINK THAT -- SORRY TO SAY THAT YOU ARE NOT PAYING
08:56:49PM ATTENTION.
08:56:50PM YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA.
08:56:52PM YOU ARE NOT CONSIDERING THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA I WANT TO -- TO
08:56:57PM ALSO SAY THAT ANOTHER THING WHERE -- WHERE WE FAILED
08:57:01PM MISERABLY IS THE CRO.
08:57:05PM CRO IS A HOAX.
08:57:06PM IT IS AS JOKE.
08:57:07PM I WAS COME FEW OF THE MEETINGS.
08:57:10PM A CASE OF A YOUNG WOMAN, KELSEY, BEATEN UP, LEFT WITH
08:57:15PM BRUISES.
08:57:16PM THE YOUNG WOMEN FROM TAMPA FIVE AT USF LEFT WITH BRUISES ALL
08:57:21PM OVER HER BODY.
08:57:22PM THE LAWYER -- THE TAMPA LAWYER TELLS THE CRO HOLD THEM TO
08:57:27PM THIS THING.
08:57:28PM DON'T DEAL WITH IT UNTIL OCTOBER SOME TIME AND THE TIME
08:57:31PM WHERE SHE CAN SUE HAS PASSED.
08:57:33PM YOU KNOW.
08:57:35PM I THINK -- I THINK THAT -- IT IS PROBABLY ILLEGAL.
08:57:38PM IT IS DISHONEST.
08:57:39PM TOTALLY DISHONEST.
08:57:41PM THE CRO ACCEPTED THAT AND FOLLOWED THE GUIDANCE.
08:57:46PM I WANT TO -- TO SAY AGAIN THAT I DISAGREE WITH THE
08:58:00PM ALLOCATION OF FUNDS.
08:58:02PM THE HUGE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS GOING TO POLICE.
08:58:05PM AND ESPECIALLY THIS MAYOR, WITH THE BACKGROUND THAT SHE HAS,
08:58:10PM EVICTIONS, UNFAIR, ILLEGAL EVICTIONS, AND BIKING WHILE
08:58:17PM BLACK, MILITARYIZING THE CITY.
08:58:19PM IF YOU ARE REMEMBER WITHOUT GIVING PEOPLE A PLACE WHERE THEY
08:58:23PM CAN DEMONSTRATE.
08:58:23PM THANK YOU.
08:58:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:58:26PM YES.
08:58:28PM THE NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
08:58:29PM >> HELLO.
08:58:34PM MY NAME IS GARRETT DAWKINS.
08:58:38PM I HAVE LIVED IN TAMPA FOR -- SINCE -- IT IS GOING TO BE FOUR
08:58:42PM YEARS.
08:58:42PM I LIVED HERE SINCE 2019.
08:58:44PM I MOVED HERE TO GO TO COLLEGE.
08:58:46PM AND MY GOODNESS, RENT HAS GONE UP SO MUCH.
08:58:50PM I REMEMBER THE FIRST PLACE I RENTED I WAS RENTING FROM, IT
08:58:54PM WAS LIKE $400 FOR A ROOM AND APPEAR PERSONAL BATHROOM AND
08:58:59PM NOW I AM PAYING LIKE OVER $800 TO, YOU KNOW -- FOR THE PLACE
08:59:05PM THAT I AM IN NOW AND STUFFER LIKE THAT AND IN BETWEEN THE
08:59:08PM COST HAS FLUCTUATED AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
08:59:10PM BUT OUTSIDE OF ME, INFLATION IN TAMPA HAS GONE UP
08:59:14PM EXPONENTIALLY.
08:59:15PM ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTRY.
08:59:17PM THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOUSELESSNESS IS GOING UP.
08:59:20PM YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HOUSELESS OR REMAIN HOUSELESS
08:59:26PM BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO ACCESS TO RESOURCES AND ARE CONSTANTLY
08:59:30PM BEING DEPRIVED AND STARVED OUT OF THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.
08:59:33PM IN MANY WAYS, PEOPLE HAVE TO ASK THEMSELVES, DO WE PUNISH
08:59:38PM PEOPLE NOR NOT HAVING WHAT THEY NEED?
08:59:40PM I DON'T THINK SO.
08:59:41PM THAT DOESN'T SOLVE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW.
8:59:42PM I THINK IN MANY WAYS, THE DEMANDS ARE SO SIMPLE, DEMANDS
8:59:44PM ARE SO RESOLVED.
8:59:45PM PEOPLE NEED HOUSING.
8:59:46PM PEOPLE NEED FOOD.
8:59:47PM PEOPLE NEED SHELTER; PEOPLE NEED WATER.
8:59:49PM ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE BEING AS HUMANS.
8:59:54PM I DON'T SEE WHY DEPRIVED OF THAT AND PUNISHED FOR TRYING TO
8:59:59PM ACCESS THAT IN A MYRIAD OF WAYS.
9:00:02PM IN ADDITION, SPECIFICALLY, I MEAN I SEE WHERE THE MONEY IS
9:00:06PM GOING CONSTANTLY AND THE BUDGET IS BEING INCREASED.
9:00:08PM IT'S LIKE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:00:11PM I DO WORK WITH TAMPA BAY ACTION COMMITTEE.
9:00:16PM ONE THING IS WE UNDERSTAND, THE VIOLENCE ENACTED ON THE
9:00:22PM COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY BLACK MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY IS
9:00:27PM ABSOLUTELY VILE.
9:00:28PM EVERYONE FROM MULKE, ANDREW JOSEPH JUNIOR, THE LIST GOES ON.
9:00:36PM IN ADDITION, THINGS AREN'T BEING DONE TO ADDRESS THINGS SUCH
9:00:39PM AS PEOPLE WHO ARE INCAPACITATED BECAUSE OF DRUG USE, MAKING
9:00:43PM SURE THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED AND THE MEDICAL CARE
9:00:46PM THAT THEY NEED, MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO ACCESS
9:00:48PM RESOURCES SUCH AS THAT, THINGS SUCH AS SEXUAL ABUSE OR, YOU
9:00:53PM KNOW, HUMAN TRAFFICKING.
9:00:55PM THAT'S NOT BEING RESOLVED.
9:00:56PM ADDING MONEY TO THE POLICE WHICH WORSENS ALL OF THESE ISSUES
9:00:59PM AND ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS.
9:01:02PM IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
9:01:03PM UNIMAGINATIVE, UNORIGINAL.
9:01:05PM I FEEL TAMPA NEEDS SOMETHING INNOVATIVE AND SOMETHING NEW.
9:01:09PM ALL THESE PEOPLE BOAST ABOUT BEING INNOVATIVE AND NEW AND
9:01:13PM I'M NOT SEEING INNOVATIVE AND NEW.
9:01:15PM WE NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT ASAP.
9:01:17PM HE RELINQUISH MY TIME.
9:01:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
9:01:22PM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:01:23PM >> GOOD EVENING, CONNIE BURTON.
9:01:24PM I THOUGHT I HAD MISSED YOU.
9:01:29PM IT'S PAINFUL TO WATCH GRANDDAUGHTERS TRYING TO BE GOOD
9:01:35PM PARENTS AND HAVING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH HAVING TWO JOBS JUST
9:01:41PM TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
9:01:42PM AND THAT'S THE REALITY IN OUR COMMUNITY, AT LEAST IN MY
9:01:46PM FAMILY.
9:01:46PM WHEN MY GRANDMOTHER MOVED INTO PUBLIC HOUSING IN AROUND
9:01:50PM 1940, SHE THOUGHT IT WAS THE BEST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN
9:01:55PM FOR HER FAMILY COMING OUT OF THE SLUMS WHERE THERE WAS NO
9:02:00PM RUNNING WATER OR TOILETS INSIDE OF THE HOUSE.
9:02:03PM THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT THING.
9:02:05PM WHEN I HEAR PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT SLUM AND BLIGHT AND
9:02:10PM POVERTY, IT GET THROWN AROUND LIKE A LITTLE BUZZWORD, BUT
9:02:13PM PEOPLE HAVE REAL LIVED EXPERIENCE HERE IN THIS CITY OF
9:02:18PM HAVING THOSE LIVED EXPERIENCE, THOSE EXPERIENCE BEING TOLD
9:02:23PM TO THEM AND NOW WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN OUR COMMUNITY NOW,
9:02:27PM SLUM, BLIGHT, AND POVERTY, THE CONTINUATION OF THAT.
9:02:30PM THE CONTINUATION OF IT AS IT MANIFESTS ITSELF WHEN YOU CAN'T
9:02:35PM EVEN GET SIMPLE AMENITIES.
9:02:41PM INSIDE OF EAST TAMPA, WE HAVE ASKED FOR THROUGH THE CRA TO
9:02:46PM UTILIZE THE MONEY, NOT JUST WITH THE MAYOR HERE, BUT THE ONE
9:02:50PM BEFORE THAT.
9:02:51PM LET'S FIX THE HOUSES.
9:02:53PM WAY BEFORE DOMAIN HOMES CAME IN AND GIVEN 100 LOTS AND HUGE
9:02:59PM LOAN, THE COMMUNITY WAS STILL ASKING FOR THOSE THINGS.
9:03:02PM WE HAVE SET ASIDE LOTS INSIDE OF THAT COMMUNITY.
9:03:05PM WE ARE STILL NOT ABLE TO BUILD.
9:03:08PM IT'S ALWAYS PRESENTED AS IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WANT.
9:03:11PM WE DO KNOW WHAT WE WANT.
9:03:13PM WE WANT OUR CHILDREN TO HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE.
9:03:17PM THE LESSON I LEARNED FROM MY GRANDMOTHER IS TRUST AND
9:03:21PM VERIFY.
9:03:22PM I CAN'T TRUST NOTHING.
9:03:24PM ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM THIS ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE I DON'T
9:03:28PM HAVE NOTHING TO VERIFY IT AGAINST.
9:03:31PM IF I SAY, HEY, LET'S DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE SEE OTHER
9:03:35PM COMMUNITIES ARE DOING, ADL, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, IT'S A
9:03:41PM STUDY.
9:03:42PM WE SAY WE NEED TO DO A REHAB, IT'S COMING.
9:03:45PM IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS AND WE STILL NOT HAVE AN EFFECTIVE
9:03:48PM REHAB PROGRAM INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
9:03:50PM WE HAVE LOTS THAT NO DEVELOPER WANTS AND PEOPLE IN OUR
9:03:54PM COMMUNITY WILL WELCOME A 500-SQUARE-FOOT HOME BUT IT CANNOT
9:04:01PM HAPPEN, AND IT ALL HAS TO DO WITH DEEP SYSTEMIC ISSUES THAT
9:04:07PM AS YOU BUILD THIS CITY, IN MY OPINION, POOR WORKING CLASS
9:04:11PM PEOPLE ARE NOT WELCOME.
9:04:13PM WE HAVE NOT BEEN WELCOMED.
9:04:15PM I SAY NO TO THE BUDGET UNTIL YOU CAN VERIFY BASED ON THE
9:04:20PM PROPERTIES THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY,
9:04:23PM UNTIL YOU CAN VERIFY THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN MOVE FORWARD
9:04:27PM BASED ON THE EMPOWERMENT AND THE WISHES OF THE COMMUNITY,
9:04:31PM NO.
9:04:32PM THANK YOU.
9:04:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:04:33PM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:04:34PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:04:43PM >> ANDY JOE SCAGLIONE.
9:04:45PM GOOD EVENING.
9:04:46PM FULL DISCLOSURE, I'M VERY PROUD TO BE ON THE BUDGET ADVISORY
9:04:52PM COMMITTEE.
9:04:54PM VERY HONORED, VERY ENGAGED GROUP.
9:04:57PM WE MEET ONCE A MONTH FOR THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR HOURS ON
9:05:00PM THE SECOND FRIDAY OF EVERY MONTH.
9:05:02PM I CAN TELL YOU THEY ARE DOING GREAT WORK.
9:05:04PM ALSO VICE-CHAIRMAN OF THE GREATER TAMPA REALTORS GOVERNMENT
9:05:11PM AFFAIRS THAT SPOKE EARLIER.
9:05:13PM I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT A LOT OF THINGS SAID TONIGHT, I'LL
9:05:19PM MAKE IT SHORT.
9:05:21PM IT'S LATE.
9:05:22PM I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT BEING CREATIVE.
9:05:25PM YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT BEING CREATIVE EARLIER.
9:05:27PM ONE OF THE WAYS I THINK WE CAN BE CREATIVE AND WE HAVE A
9:05:31PM DOWNTOWN CRA THAT HAS COMMITMENTS NOW ABOUT $160 MILLION.
9:05:36PM AND THAT'S ON A VERY HIGH AMOUNT.
9:05:38PM THAT'S FUNDING 25 MILLION TO THE STRAZ AND SOME OTHER
9:05:42PM ISSUES, SOME OTHER FUNDING.
9:05:44PM WE HAVE A PROJECTED, A CONSERVATIVE PROJECT OF 2039 OF 331
9:05:51PM MILLION.
9:05:51PM THAT GIVES A DELTA OF 210 MILLION THAT CAN BE FREED UP TO
9:05:55PM THE GENERAL REVENUE IN A MATTER OF 15, 16 YEARS.
9:06:02PM YOU'RE LOOKING AT OVER $10 MILLION A YEAR THAT CAN GO BACK
9:06:05PM INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:06:06PM AND THIS IS A WAY TO BE CREATIVE WITHOUT HAVING A MILLAGE
9:06:10PM INCREASE THAT IS REALLY GOING TO HURT THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
9:06:15PM OKAY?
9:06:15PM THE INSURANCE CRISIS, WE DO HAVE A SERIOUS, SERIOUS
9:06:24PM INSURANCE CRISIS.
9:06:25PM I'VE BEEN IN REAL ESTATE FOR 38 YEARS, I'VE NEVER SEEN IT
9:06:29PM WORSE THAN TODAY.
9:06:29PM THE PROBLEM IS WITH THIS HURRICANE IT'S NOT GOING TO GET ANY
9:06:32PM BETTER.
9:06:32PM THE COMPETITION IS NOT COMING, THEY ARE NOT COMING TO
9:06:37PM FLORIDA.
9:06:37PM THERE'S NEVER A GOOD TIME TO PASS A TEST, BUT THIS IS A
9:06:43PM TERRIBLE TIME TO PASS A TEST.
9:06:45PM CIT, ANY MILLAGE INCREASE TONIGHT, ANY MILLAGE INCREASE
9:06:53PM TONIGHT WILL SINK CIT, COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX.
9:06:56PM THAT'S COMING UP NEXT YEAR.
9:06:59PM WE DESPERATELY NEED COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX.
9:07:02PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, PAID FOR A THIRD OF OUT-OF-TOWN
9:07:08PM PEOPLE.
9:07:09PM MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT FUNDS THE POLICE.
9:07:10PM I'VE GONE AND VISITED SOME POLICE STATIONS RECENTLY AT THE
9:07:14PM SUGGESTION OF THE CHIEF, AND THESE POLICE, WE NEED NEW
9:07:18PM POLICE STATIONS.
9:07:19PM THEY CAN'T EVEN BE REBUILT.
9:07:20PM I'VE GONE BY AND VISITED THEM, SO WE NEED THE CIT.
9:07:24PM THAT'S THE MECHANISM THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT WORK AND THE
9:07:28PM ROADS.
9:07:30PM HOWARD AVENUE, ARMENIA, BAY TO BAY, THAT'S THE WAY WE'LL GET
9:07:33PM IT BY CIT.
9:07:35PM RESERVES, I THINK WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WE'RE OVER
9:07:38PM RESERVE.
9:07:39PM OUR POLICY SAYS 20%.
9:07:41PM WE'RE PAST 23%.
9:07:42PM AT ONE POINT THAT'S ON THE BACKS OF CITIZENS.
9:07:45PM REAL QUICK, WE'RE THE ONLY GOVERNMENT AND I'VE PERSONALLY
9:07:49PM CALLED ALL SURROUNDING GOVERNMENTS AROUND US THAT ARE HAVING
9:07:52PM AN INCREASE IN MILLAGE.
9:07:53PM THE ONLY ONE, THEY HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS WE DO.
9:07:56PM WHY ARE WE INCREASING OUR MILLAGE?
9:07:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU MEAN FIRE STATIONS?
9:08:01PM NOT POLICE STATIONS.
9:08:02PM >> FIRE STATIONS, I'M SORRY.
9:08:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BECAUSE THE POLICE STATIONS ARE NEWISH
9:08:06PM BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT CIT.
9:08:09PM >> FIRE STATIONS.
9:08:10PM I'M SORRY.
9:08:11PM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING REAL QUICK.
9:08:13PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THIS WILL DEFINITELY HURT AFFORDABLE
9:08:15PM HOUSING.
9:08:18PM THIS -- LANDLORDS HAVE DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE.
9:08:20PM THEY HAVE LOAN COVENANTS.
9:08:22PM WHEN A MILLAGE INCREASED OR AN INSURANCE, THEY HAVE TO PASS
9:08:27PM THAT ON.
9:08:28PM IF THEY DON'T, THEY ARE IN DEFAULT OF THEIR LOAN COVENANTS.
9:08:31PM THIS WILL HURT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:08:32PM 48% OF LANDLORDS ARE MOM AND POPS.
9:08:35PM THEY ARE NOT THE GREEDY LANDLORDS THAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT.
9:08:39PM THIS IS THEIR RETIREMENT.
9:08:40PM AND PEOPLE LIKE ME, MY RENTS ARE VERY LOW, AND THEY WILL
9:08:44PM STAY LOW BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE I CAME FROM.
9:08:47PM MOST PEOPLE HAVE THAT ATTITUDE, BUT THEY HAVE TO PASS IT ON
9:08:50PM BECAUSE THEY HAVE LOANS.
9:08:52PM JUST UNDERSTAND, THIS IS GOING TO HURT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:08:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:08:56PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:08:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.
9:09:04PM >> MY NAME IS WILLIAM.
9:09:08PM GIVE ME SOME TIME.
9:09:09PM I LIVE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
9:09:10PM WILLIAM SESSIONS.
9:09:14PM I LIVE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
9:09:15PM HAD MY HOUSE BUILT THERE IN 2006.
9:09:18PM SET THE PRICE OF $180,000.
9:09:21PM THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM HOUSE ON A DEAD END.
9:09:25PM DON'T HAVE TOO MANY PROBLEMS, EXCEPT FOR THE MUSIC FROM THE
9:09:30PM INTERSTATE.
9:09:31PM THE TRASH IS A PROBLEM.
9:09:33PM EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:09:36PM WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:09:38PM I LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM ROSE PARK HOUSING COMPLEX.
9:09:41PM COME OUT OF MY STREET TO GO TO WORK, CENTRAL AVENUE, I SEE
9:09:45PM NOTHING BUT TRASH.
9:09:46PM WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:09:47PM LET'S TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE GOT, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE
9:09:53PM MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:09:54PM NOT SAYING EVERYBODY IS LIKE THAT.
9:09:56PM I CALL IT LIKE I SEE IT.
9:09:57PM NOW I'LL GO TO SOMETHING ELSE.
9:10:01PM FIRE RESCUE.
9:10:02PM I LOVE FIRE RESCUE.
9:10:03PM THANK YOU TO CHIEF TRIPP.
9:10:05PM SHE'S BEEN A WONDERFUL CHIEF FOR THE CITY.
9:10:08PM HOPE SHE STAYS HERE LONG.
9:10:10PM BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT DOWN IN SOUTH TAMPA WHERE YOU HAVE
9:10:13PM 1,000 HOUSES STATION 19.
9:10:17PM AIN'T GOT STATION 15.
9:10:20PM OTHER SIDE.
9:10:21PM BETWEEN THOSE TWO THAT IS A FIVE-MINUTE DELAY.
9:10:25PM WHY WE CAN'T PUT A STATION ON FAIR OAKS WESTSHORE, GOING
9:10:28PM BACK TO OLD GEORGETOWN.
9:10:31PM RAISE 15 FEET.
9:10:33PM FIRE RESCUE, SLASH, BOAT RESCUE.
9:10:36PM SHE'S ASKING FOR THIS.
9:10:37PM NEED TO GIVE IT TO HER.
9:10:39PM SHE TOLD YOU SHE NEEDS BUTTS IN THE SEAT.
9:10:43PM SHE DOES.
9:10:44PM COUNCIL, FIND THE MONEY, FIND THE MONEY.
9:10:46PM IMPACT FEES.
9:10:47PM SAME THING WITH NORTH TAMPA.
9:10:48PM COUNCILMAN VIERA'S AREA.
9:10:50PM OUTPOST.
9:10:52PM 22 OUT BY ITSELF.
9:10:55PM NEAREST RESCUE ALMOST TEN MINUTES AWAY.
9:10:57PM THAT'S 21.
9:10:59PM 21 ISN'T AVAILABLE, 23.
9:11:01PM THAT'S ALMOST 14 MINUTES AWAY.
9:11:03PM 22 NEEDS A RESCUE.
9:11:04PM ALSO, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT STATION THAT'S ON WATERS
9:11:09PM AVENUE, SULPHUR SPRINGS THAT YOU REFURBISHED.
9:11:12PM I UNDERSTAND THAT'S GOOD TO GO.
9:11:14PM BRING THE STATION OUT TO WATERS AVENUE, PUT IT ON WATERS
9:11:18PM AVENUE.
9:11:19PM STATION 25, 26, WHICHEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, PUT AN ENGINE
9:11:22PM AND RESCUE.
9:11:27PM I CALL THEM ELS.
9:11:29PM THEY CALL THEM RESCUES, BUT WE KNOW THEM AS BOTH.
9:11:33PM ALSO TRUCKS RUNNING RESCUES.
9:11:34PM TRUCKS ARE DESIGNED TO DO A LOT OF OTHER WORK.
9:11:38PM THE TRUCKS ARE VERY RESPONSIBLE AND VALUABLE.
9:11:40PM TRUCKS COST ALMOST $5 MILLION OR MORE.
9:11:42PM THAT'S JUST THE ENGINE.
9:11:46PM ENGINE IS PROBABLY MORE THAN THAT.
9:11:48PM WE DO NEED BRAND-NEW ENGINES, BRAND-NEW RESCUES, BRAND-NEW
9:11:51PM STATIONS.
9:11:52PM IF YOU PUT ONE THERE, I GUARANTEE REDUCE RESPONSE TIME
9:11:56PM BETWEEN 19 AND 15.
9:11:57PM CHIEF TRIPP HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB WITH TAMPA FIRE RESCUE
9:12:02PM AND I APPLAUD HER.
9:12:03PM THANK YOU.
9:12:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:12:04PM MR. ROBINSON.
9:12:13PM >> JOE ROBINSON.
9:12:16PM DAMNED IF YOU DO AND DAMNED IF YOU DON'T.
9:12:19PM MS. HURTAK JUST WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM.
9:12:22PM I WONDER WHY.
9:12:24PM FIRST OF ALL, ABOUT THIS TAX, THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARY OF
9:12:30PM THIS TAX IS CRAs.
9:12:32PM THE WAY YOU'RE GOING TO SOLVE THE HOUSING PROBLEM IS WITH
9:12:36PM CRA MONEY, LIVE ACT AND FLORIDA HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY,
9:12:40PM PERIOD.
9:12:40PM YOU PASS THIS TAX, NONE OF IT GOES TO THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:12:46PM COFFERS IN ANY CRA DISTRICT.
9:12:51PM CRAs BIGGEST BENEFICIARY OF ANY MILLAGE RATE.
9:12:56PM ONE MILL, HALF A MILL, NO MILLS.
9:12:59PM WE STILL GOING TO GET CRA MONEY FOR DECADES.
9:13:03PM YOU'RE GAMBLING.
9:13:05PM THROW THE DICE CHARLIE?
9:13:07PM CIT TAX MAY NOT PASS.
9:13:11PM TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY.
9:13:12PM THEY MAY NOT WANT TO PASS IT.
9:13:14PM IT IS EASIER, CITY COUNCIL, TO GET FOUR VOTES THAN IT IS TO
9:13:18PM GET 40,000.
9:13:20PM THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE CIT TAX.
9:13:24PM THAT IS A PIE IN THE SKY.
9:13:25PM RIGHT NOW, YOU'VE GOT A FUTURE IN FRONT OF YOU.
9:13:27PM JUST THINK ABOUT THAT.
9:13:30PM NEXT, TAMPA BAY TIMES SAYS PUT ON THE BRAKES.
9:13:35PM HOW CAN THEY TELL ANYBODY ABOUT A BUDGET WHEN THEY GOING
9:13:38PM BROKE, PRODUCE THE PAPER MAYBE TWICE A WEEK AND BEGGING
9:13:42PM PEOPLE TO GIVE THEM MONEY TO INVESTIGATE STORIES.
9:13:45PM WHAT DO THEY KNOW ABOUT A BUDGET?
9:13:46PM ALL EDITORIAL STAFF, INCLUDING JOHN HILL, WENT TO TAMPA
9:13:50PM CATHOLIC WITH ME, GUIDO.
9:13:52PM WHAT DO THEY KNOW ABOUT A BUDGET?
9:13:53PM THEY LOSING MONEY.
9:13:57PM EXCUSE MY EXPRESSION.
9:14:00PM THE SUNSETTING, THE BIGGEST ISSUE, MR. CARLSON, IS THE CRA
9:14:09PM IN DOWNTOWN.
9:14:10PM THEY DONE HAD RUNAWAY COMMITMENTS.
9:14:12PM EVERY OTHER CRA HAS MILLIONS THAT HAVE YET TO BE EXPENDED,
9:14:18PM YET TO BE DETERMINED BY THE CRA BOARD WHICH MEETS, AS
9:14:20PM MS. HURTAK SAID, SEPTEMBER 14.
9:14:24PM THANK YOU FOR THAT DATE.
9:14:25PM I'M HERE TO SAY I DON'T CARE WHAT THE RAISE THE MILLAGE RATE
9:14:30PM TO.
9:14:31PM I GOT LAWSUIT GOING FOR A MILLION DOLLARS AROUND HERE.
9:14:37PM I LIVE THROUGH 40 HOUSES IN TAMPA.
9:14:40PM BEEN THROUGH CODE ENFORCEMENT.
9:14:41PM I DONE BEEN THROUGH ALL OF THAT.
9:14:43PM GUESS WHAT, I'M STILL HERE STANDING, GUIDO.
9:14:47PM I'M STILL STANDING, MAN.
9:14:49PM I'M TELLING YOU GUYS, MAKE A DECISION, BUT BEFORE YOU MAKE
9:14:53PM THE DECISION, YOU ALREADY BEEN TOLD THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
9:14:58PM GIVE YOU ALTERNATIVE BUDGET.
9:15:01PM TOLD YOU THAT FRIDAY.
9:15:02PM GUESS WHAT, RECONVENE, WHEN YOU VOTE NO TONIGHT OR YES,
9:15:06PM RECONVENE YOUR BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT
9:15:10PM GOING TO GIVE YOU AN ALTERNATIVE BUDGET.
9:15:12PM YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GET IT FROM YOUR REVIEW COMMITTEE SO
9:15:15PM THAT THEY CAN CUT STUFF OUT.
9:15:18PM REMEMBER, IT AIN'T THE -- I HAVE A FEW MORE SECONDS.
9:15:25PM THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, WHATEVER WAY YOU VOTE TONIGHT,
9:15:28PM SOMETHING GONNA HAPPEN.
9:15:30PM NO WINNERS TONIGHT.
9:15:33PM DAMNED IF YOU DO AND DAMNED IF YOU DON'T.
9:15:35PM THIS IS ONE OF THEM DECISIONS THAT YOU COULD TALK ALL THIS
9:15:40PM TALKING, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE WHEN YOU WALK OUT OF HERE,
9:15:43PM NOBODY IS GOING TO HAPPEN HAPPY 100%.
9:15:45PM NOBODY PROBABLY 60%.
9:15:49PM BUT DO THE RIGHT THING.
9:15:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:15:51PM >> OKAY.
9:15:52PM I DON'T CARE, RAISE TO TWO MILLS.
9:15:55PM DON'T MAKE NO DIFFERENCE.
9:15:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:16:01PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
9:16:02PM NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 754.
9:16:08PM FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING AS
9:16:10PM WELL AS CITY STAFF AND EVERYBODY LISTENING IN.
9:16:13PM AS DECISION MAKERS, YOU HAVE A CRUCIAL ROLE AS A CRUCIAL
9:16:17PM TIME RIGHT NOW.
9:16:18PM LISTENING TO EVERYONE SPEAK EARLIER, THERE ARE A LOT OF
9:16:21PM CONCERNS OUT THERE.
9:16:21PM I'M HERE TO EXPRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE FIREFIGHTERS, YOUR
9:16:25PM FIREFIGHTERS, YOUR LOCAL FIREFIGHTERS.
9:16:28PM ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO BE TREATED AS EQUAL AS WE WERE
9:16:31PM LAST YEAR.
9:16:32PM LOOKING AT LAST YEAR'S BUDGET ON THE PIE, 59% WAS ALLOCATED
9:16:37PM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
9:16:38PM LOOKING AT THE PIE THIS YEAR, 55% IS ALLOCATED FOR PUBLIC
9:16:41PM SAFETY.
9:16:42PM THAT'S 4% OF A ONE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND TWENTY-SIX
9:16:44PM MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET.
9:16:47PM THAT'S ROUGHLY $70 MILLION LESS THAN LAST YEAR.
9:16:51PM WE CANNOT KEEP BEING TASKED TO DO MORE WITH LESS.
9:16:58PM EVERYONE WANTS A FIRE TRUCK AT THEIR SCHOOL.
9:17:01PM EVERYONE WANTS A FIRE TRUCK AT THE SHOPPING CENTER.
9:17:03PM EVERYONE WANTS A FIRE TRUCK AT THEIR DEMOS.
9:17:05PM MOST IMPORTANTLY, CITIZENS NEED FIRE TRUCKS AT THEIR DOORS
9:17:09PM TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES.
9:17:10PM SECONDS MATTER AND WE NEED TO BE THERE AS QUICKLY AS
9:17:15PM POSSIBLE TO HELP WITH LIFESAVING MEASURES OF OUR MOST
9:17:18PM VALUABLE ASSET TO THE CITY AND THAT'S THE PEOPLE.
9:17:21PM CITIZENS, RESIDENTS, GUESTS ARE THE MOST VALUABLE ASSET THAT
9:17:25PM THIS CITY WILL HAVE AND PROTECTING THEM IS THE NUMBER ONE
9:17:28PM JOB OF ANY LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
9:17:30PM THAT'S OUR JOB AS FIREFIGHTERS.
9:17:33PM PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT A WANT.
9:17:35PM IT'S A NEED.
9:17:36PM MOST OF YOU HAVE COME TO THE UNION HALL TO SEEK ENDORSEMENT
9:17:40PM FROM THE TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 754.
9:17:43PM AND WE GAVE YOU THE NEEDS AND THE WANTS OF THE FIREFIGHTERS
9:17:49PM SO NONE OF THIS IS NEW TO ANY OF YOU.
9:17:53PM HOWEVER, WHEN WE GAVE YOU THAT ENDORSEMENT, IT'S BECAUSE YOU
9:17:57PM SAID YOU WERE GOING TO SIDE WITH FIRE.
9:18:00PM IT'S BECAUSE YOU WERE GOING TO SUPPORT THE FIREFIGHTERS, AND
9:18:03PM THIS IS WHERE YOU DO IT.
9:18:05PM SOME OF THOSE THAT DIDN'T GET THE ENDORSEMENT ARE SHOWING
9:18:08PM MORE EFFORT THAN THOSE THAT DID AND THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE
9:18:12PM WATCHING EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU.
9:18:17PM OTHER CITIES HAVE A DEDICATED MILLAGE RESOURCE, WHY DOESN'T
9:18:21PM THE CITY OF TAMPA?
9:18:21PM WE NEED TO HAVE A DESIGNATED FUNDING SOURCE SPECIFICALLY FOR
9:18:25PM PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE FIREFIGHTERS.
9:18:28PM WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND CONTINUE
9:18:32PM TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS AND PLANS AND COMMITTEES AND
9:18:35PM CONSULTANTS THAT WE HIRE.
9:18:36PM WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT THESE PLANS AND PUT THEM INTO ACTION.
9:18:40PM THIS MEMORANDUM IS FROM 2021, AND IT IS IN REGARDS TO THE
9:18:45PM PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEE.
9:18:47PM AND IT COULD BE IMPOSED IF THERE WAS A PLAN, SO WE WOULD BE
9:18:52PM ABLE TO KNOW WHERE WE CAN ALLOCATE THE FUNDS.
9:18:56PM FIRST STARTING WITH THE PLAN TO BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE THESE
9:18:58PM FUNDS.
9:18:58PM AGAIN, YOUR MOST VALUABLE ASSET IS THE PEOPLE, THE RESIDENTS
9:19:05PM AND THE GUESTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND WE PROTECT THOSE
9:19:10PM PEOPLE.
9:19:10PM THANK YOU.
9:19:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:19:12PM YES, MA'AM.
9:19:15PM THERE'S ONE MORE THING.
9:19:17PM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:19:19PM I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK.
9:19:22PM HOWEVER, WHEN MR. ROGERO CAME UP EARLIER, I KNOW THERE WERE
9:19:27PM THREE MOTIONS THAT WERE MADE.
9:19:28PM I BELIEVE YOU ASKED IF THERE WERE ANY -- MR. ROGERO ASKED IF
9:19:34PM THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS.
9:19:36PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE
9:19:39PM FEASIBILITY OF INCLUDING DESIGN FUNDS AND POTENTIAL LAND
9:19:41PM ACQUISITION FOR FIRE STATIONS, TO INCLUDE A BUDGET ANALYST
9:19:46PM POSITION AND THEN A CHART OF TAX PROPOSALS FOR FLORIDA
9:19:50PM CITIES, COUNTIES AND STATES AND RAISE, REDUCE OR KEEP
9:19:54PM MILLAGE RATE THE SAME.
9:19:56PM I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAD THAT READY.
9:19:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DIDN'T HAVE MY CHANCE TO SPEAK.
9:19:59PM CAN I SPEAK BEFORE THAT?
9:20:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, LET'S GO UNTIL HE COMES BACK IN.
9:20:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
9:20:08PM I WANT TO THANK THE PUBLIC FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT. I DIDN'T
9:20:12PM WANT TO SAY ANYTHING UNTIL I HEARD FROM YOU ALL.
9:20:15PM WHAT I HEARD FROM YOU ALL BACKED UP WHAT I GOT IN E-MAIL.
9:20:18PM I WANT TO SAY THAT E-MAIL HAS BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY AGAINST A
9:20:22PM MILL INCREASE.
9:20:24PM BUT INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THE SMALL HANDFUL OF E-MAILS WE
9:20:27PM DID GET TO SUPPORT THE MILL ALL CHAMPIONED HOUSING.
9:20:33PM TONIGHT, WE HEARD ABOUT HOUSING.
9:20:36PM WE HEARD PEOPLE CRY ABOUT HOUSING.
9:20:38PM PEOPLE DIDN'T CRY ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE TONIGHT.
9:20:41PM HOUSING IS THE ROOT.
9:20:42PM HOUSING IS WHERE EVERYTHING NEEDS TO START FROM.
9:20:47PM BUT ALL OF THOSE ISSUES -- ALL OF THE FOUR THINGS THAT HAVE
9:20:52PM BEEN BROUGHT UP ARE IMPORTANT.
9:20:55PM WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT THE MILL INCREASE, I ABSOLUTELY
9:20:59PM SUPPORTED EVERY ONE OF THE IDEAS.
9:21:02PM I STILL DO.
9:21:03PM BUT THE PROBLEM IS, EVERY TIME WE ASKED, I CAN'T TELL WHERE
9:21:12PM THE MONEY IS.
9:21:13PM I'VE LOOKED.
9:21:14PM I'VE SPENT HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS.
9:21:17PM I'VE DUG, MY AIDE HAS DUG, STEPHANIE POYNOR HAS DUG.
9:21:23PM I STILL CAN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE ALL THE MONEY IS.
9:21:26PM MY COLLEAGUE, MR. CARLSON, ASKED FOR A BUDGET TO BE GIVEN TO
9:21:32PM US ON FRIDAY THAT SHOWED AN INCREASE -- OR WHAT THE BUDGET
9:21:36PM WOULD LOOK LIKE WITHOUT THE INCREASED MILL AND WE WERE TOLD
9:21:39PM NO, THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO DO THAT.
9:21:42PM AS MR. ROBINSON SAID, WE'LL HAVE TO DO IT OURSELVES.
9:21:45PM I SPENT ALL WEEKEND DOING THAT.
9:21:48PM I STRONGLY BELIEVE AFTER DIGGING ON WHAT I CAN DO IS WE CAN
9:21:54PM ABSOLUTELY DO THIS WITHOUT A MILLAGE INCREASE.
9:21:59PM I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHY.
9:22:00PM WE CAN'T BOND OUR WAY OUT OF THIS.
9:22:02PM THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THIS MILLAGE INCREASE DOES.
9:22:05PM IT'S GOING TO BOND EVERYTHING.
9:22:06PM THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO BOND.
9:22:10PM I'M SO GLAD THE PUBLIC BROUGHT UP STUFF LIKE FEES.
9:22:12PM FEES, WE'VE ALREADY ASKED THE BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO
9:22:18PM SPEND THIS NEXT YEAR GOING THROUGH FEES AND BRINGING BACK TO
9:22:22PM US IN A TIMELY MANNER SO WE CAN INCREASE, DECREASE, CHANGE
9:22:26PM FEES, WE'RE ON THAT.
9:22:27PM THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE CHANGES IN FEES.
9:22:30PM PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEES, I BROUGHT THAT UP WHEN I JOINED
9:22:38PM COUNCIL AND IT DISAPPEARED.
9:22:40PM PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED IN IT, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH LEGS
9:22:42PM TO GO ANYWHERE.
9:22:43PM SO WE NEED TO GET THAT BACK UP.
9:22:47PM OTHER PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT I BROUGHT THAT UP AND
9:22:50PM NOTHING HAS HAPPENED.
9:22:51PM BUT THE TRANSPARENCY IS WHAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST.
9:23:04PM I HAVE AREAS THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT CUTTING, BUT THE BIG
9:23:07PM THING I REALLY JUST WANT TO START WITH YOU ALL, AND THIS IS
9:23:10PM IT.
9:23:11PM THIS IS THE BIG ONE.
9:23:13PM MS. SHARP, NUMBER ONE.
9:23:17PM IT'S UPSIDE DOWN.
9:23:27PM NUMBER ONE IS A TABLE FROM THE TOTAL BUDGET, AND IT'S A
9:23:31PM TABLE, YOU CAN SEE IN THE GRAY PART, IT SAYS GENERAL FUND,
9:23:34PM EXPENSES BY DEPARTMENT.
9:23:36PM NONDEPARTMENTAL HAS $102 MILLION.
9:23:43PM FLIP IT OVER.
9:23:45PM WHEN YOU OPEN IT AND LOOK DOWN FURTHER, AT THE VERY BOTTOM
9:23:49PM IS NONDEPARTMENTAL ADMIN.
9:23:51PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT DOES, BUT IT'S GOT $29 MILLION.
9:23:55PM THAT PAYS FOR EVERYTHING WE NEED RIGHT THERE.
9:23:58PM IF YOU NOTICE, LAST YEAR IT GOT A NEGATIVE.
9:24:06PM OBVIOUSLY THAT MONEY MOVED SOMEWHERE.
9:24:08PM AND THAT'S WHAT IS HAPPENING.
9:24:09PM WE HAVE A SHELL GAME OF MONEY MOVING AND WE DON'T KNOW WHERE
9:24:12PM IT IS.
9:24:12PM THIS IS JUST ONE PLACE THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO LOOK FOR IT.
9:24:15PM AND THAT 29 MILLION, WE DON'T NEED 45 MILLION.
9:24:20PM WITH THE MILL WE ALREADY HAVE, WE'RE ALREADY GETTING 35.
9:24:25PM WHAT DO WE NEED?
9:24:26PM WE NEED 19.
9:24:27PM THAT'S IT.
9:24:28PM WE NEED $19 MILLION IN ORDER TO GET THE 45 MILLION THAT
9:24:31PM WE'RE LOOKING FOR, AND WE CAN KEEP EVERY SINGLE PRIORITY
9:24:35PM FULLY FUNDED.
9:24:36PM I'M GOING TO TALK TO YOU VERY QUICKLY.
9:24:44PM THIS IS THE NONDEPARTMENTAL FUNDS.
9:24:46PM I KNOW I'M OUT OF TIME, BUT EVERYBODY ELSE GOT EXTRA TIME.
9:24:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KEEP GOING.
9:24:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MS. SHARP, NUMBER THREE.
9:24:57PM WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE NONDEPARTMENTAL BUDGET.
9:25:00PM THIS IS THE NONDEPARTMENTAL BUDGET.
9:25:01PM THIS IS 102 MILLION.
9:25:03PM AGAIN, THIS IS NONDEPARTMENTAL BUDGET IN THAT BUDGET.
9:25:07PM I'M SORRY, THIS IS REALLY HARD TO SCREEN SHOT AND SHOW, SO I
9:25:12PM TRIED TO DO IT THE EASIEST I CAN.
9:25:16PM FLIP IT OVER.
9:25:17PM $42 MILLION ARE BEING TRANSFERRED TO THE UTILITIES SERVICES
9:25:21PM TAX FUND.
9:25:22PM FROM THE 102.
9:25:26PM THE UTILITIES SERVICES TAX FUND IS WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO GO
9:25:30PM IN.
9:25:30PM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE USING MONEY FOR.
9:25:32PM THAT'S REVENUE, BUT YET WE'RE USING AS AN EXPENSE TO SEND
9:25:38PM BACK TO THE UTILITIES SERVICES TAX FUND.
9:25:40PM IF NOTHING ELSE, WE NEED TO GET THESE ANSWERS ABOUT WHY
9:25:45PM WE'RE MOVING MONEY.
9:25:46PM AGAIN, I DIDN'T HAVE THESE QUESTIONS BEFORE, BUT I WAS
9:25:50PM FORCED TO SEARCH BECAUSE WE WEREN'T GIVEN AN ALTERNATIVE
9:25:55PM BUDGET.
9:25:55PM NEXT, MS. SHARP.
9:26:02PM THIS IS ARPA FUNDS.
9:26:06PM NOW, THIS IS SIMPLY THE ARPA FUNDS FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:26:11PM PROVISIONAL AND GOVERNMENT SERVICES.
9:26:13PM WE HAVE A LOT MORE THAN THIS IN ARPA FUNDS.
9:26:16PM REMEMBER, WE HAD TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY MEETING THIS YEAR TO
9:26:18PM MOVE FUNDS SO THAT WE WOULDN'T LOSE THEM IF THE FEDERAL
9:26:21PM GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN.
9:26:24PM >> WE VOTED FOR THAT.
9:26:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ALL DID.
9:26:26PM YOU KNOW WHERE IT WENT?
9:26:27PM IT WENT TO BUDGET FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
9:26:30PM 77 MILLION AND 44 MILLION WENT TO THE BUDGET FOR POLICE AND
9:26:33PM FIRE AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN EXPENDED.
9:26:35PM NOW, WE WERE TOLD THAT WAS SIMPLY GOING TO REPLACE THE
9:26:39PM GENERAL FUND.
9:26:40PM WHERE IS THAT MONEY?
9:26:41PM WHERE IS THE MONEY?
9:26:46PM SO, AGAIN, SO THAT'S GOING TO BE ROLLOVER.
9:26:51PM I'VE ASKED FOR ROLLOVER.
9:26:53PM THE ROLLOVER ISN'T AS CLEAR.
9:26:55PM NOW, THE NEXT ONE IS A LITTLE TRICKIER.
9:27:02PM WE ARE ASKING FOR -- FOLKS SAY WE'RE ADDING PERSONNEL.
9:27:15PM WE'RE ADDING PERSONNEL THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED.
9:27:19PM MS. SHARP.
9:27:21PM THE FIRST ONE IS AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND CARBON ANALYST.
9:27:27PM THIS IS UNDER OUR SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR.
9:27:31PM THIS ACTUAL POSITION WAS IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET AND WE DIDN'T
9:27:34PM FILL IT.
9:27:34PM WE INCREASED IT BY I BELIEVE $20,000, THE SALARY, AND WE'LL
9:27:38PM TRY TO GET THIS PERSON.
9:27:39PM NOW, THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND CARBON ANALYST WE DON'T NEED
9:27:43PM FULL-TIME.
9:27:44PM WE CAN GET A CONSULTANT TO DO THAT FOR US.
9:27:47PM WE COULD PROBABLY GET GRU TO DO THAT FOR US, BUT WE DON'T
9:27:50PM NEED SOMEBODY FULL-TIME ON OUR BUDGET RIGHT NOW WHEN WE'RE
9:27:53PM TALKING ABOUT NEEDS AND WANTS.
9:27:54PM THIS IS A WANT AND NOT A NEED.
9:27:56PM NEXT PAGE.
9:27:58PM NEXT PAGE IS $165,000 POSITION IN THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR
9:28:04PM FOR ADVISOR TO THE MAYOR ON MAJOR COMMUNICATIONS PROJECTS
9:28:07PM AND DEVELOPMENT THAT DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A DEFINITION.
9:28:10PM THIS WAS ADDED LAST YEAR, BUT IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THE
9:28:17PM AMOUNT THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE BUDGET HAS BY I BELIEVE 49%.
9:28:22PM HER ENTIRE OFFICE BUDGET IS GOING UP 49% JUST TO PAY FOR
9:28:26PM THIS PERSON THAT WE DON'T NEED.
9:28:27PM THAT'S WHY WE HAVE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
9:28:29PM THAT'S THEIR JOB.
9:28:30PM NEXT PAGE.
9:28:32PM HR.
9:28:36PM WE HAVE FOUR POSITIONS WE'RE ADDING TO HR.
9:28:38PM WHEN I ASKED THE MAYOR ABOUT IT, SHE SAID IT'S BECAUSE WE
9:28:41PM HAVE SO MANY GRIEVANCES FILED BY THE FIREFIGHTERS.
9:28:44PM NOW, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A CONTINUING
9:28:48PM EXPENSE.
9:28:49PM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO WITH A CONSULTANT.
9:28:51PM BUT INSTEAD, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS THESE -- THE HIGHLIGHTED IS
9:28:56PM WHAT THE POSITIONS THEY WANT TO HIRE.
9:28:59PM PERSONNEL TECHNICIAN 3 FOR $67,000.
9:29:02PM FLIP OVER TO THE OTHER SIDE.
9:29:04PM I THINK I MISSED ONE HERE, KELLY.
9:29:07PM I'M SORRY.
9:29:09PM VERY BOTTOM, PERSONNEL ASSISTANT 1 FOR 58, 59 THOUSAND.
9:29:15PM HUMAN RESOURCES ANALYST IS FOR 64,000, AND THIS PERSON HAS
9:29:20PM ACTUALLY BEEN HIRED.
9:29:21PM EMPLOYEE RELATIONS SPECIALIST SUPERVISOR FOR $120,000.
9:29:24PM WE HAVE A LOT OF PERSONNEL AND THEY ARE GREAT, BUT THE
9:29:30PM PROBLEM IS, WE JUST HAD -- WE JUST APPROVED A CONTRACT LAST
9:29:35PM YEAR FOR 9.5%, AND WE HAVE TO DO 4.5% THIS YEAR, THAT'S A
9:29:42PM HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR.
9:29:46PM A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
9:29:49PM WE CANNOT AFFORD THAT.
9:29:49PM I LOVE OUR PEOPLE.
9:29:52PM WE CAN'T ADD TO THEM.
9:29:54PM WE JUST CAN'T DO IT.
9:29:56PM WE CAN'T ADD MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD WHAT WE
9:30:00PM ALREADY HAVE.
9:30:01PM IF WE'RE GOING UP $50 MILLION A YEAR WITHOUT ADDING PEOPLE,
9:30:06PM THAT IS NOT EVEN THE BUDGET INCREASE WITHOUT A MILL.
9:30:10PM WE'RE GETTING $35 MILLION.
9:30:12PM WE CAN'T EVEN PAY FOR THE INCREASE IN SALARIES.
9:30:19PM >> JUST FOR THE ONES YOU HIGHLIGHTED, THAT'S $559,000.
9:30:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
9:30:24PM I'M SAYING THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM TO CUT.
9:30:26PM I JUST THREW SOME IDEAS OUT HERE.
9:30:29PM I HIGHLY RECOMMEND ALL OF YOU LOOK BECAUSE THERE'S PLENTY OF
9:30:32PM ROOM TO CUT IN THIS BUDGET.
9:30:34PM BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT IT AS A NEED VERSUS A WANT.
9:30:41PM OUR NEEDS ARE VERY CLEAR, AND THE ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE A
9:30:47PM PHENOMENAL JOB OF TALKING ABOUT WHAT OUR NEEDS AND
9:30:50PM PRIORITIES ARE.
9:30:51PM AS THE WOMAN IN THE BACK SO CLEARLY AND CLEVERLY STATED, OUR
9:30:55PM PRIORITIES, OUR VALUES ARE IN THIS BUDGET, AND I REALLY LIKE
9:30:59PM THE WAY YOU SAID THAT.
9:31:00PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:31:01PM OUR VALUES ARE VERY CLEAR, AND THEY WERE HERE ON DISPLAY
9:31:05PM TONIGHT.
9:31:06PM WE WANT MORE FIRE STATIONS.
9:31:07PM WE WANT HOUSING.
9:31:09PM HOUSING, HOUSING, HOUSING.
9:31:12PM PEOPLE TALK TO US ABOUT HOUSING BEING THE ROOT OF
9:31:14PM EVERYTHING.
9:31:15PM PARKS, WE HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT WANT PARKS AND WE HEARD
9:31:18PM FROM FOLKS THAT WANT PAVING.
9:31:20PM WE CAN GET IT ALL DONE.
9:31:21PM WE ABSOLUTELY CAN.
9:31:23PM I HAVE NO CONCERN THAT ALL OF THESE THINGS CAN BE ACCOUNTED
9:31:27PM FOR.
9:31:28PM I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT A COUPLE OF THINGS, AGAIN, I JUST
9:31:31PM WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE TO SHOW YOU, BUT THIS IS MY LIST.
9:31:34PM IF WE DO NOT DO -- I BELIEVE I CAME UP WITH ABOUT 9 MILLION
9:31:42PM JUST ON THE FLY TODAY.
9:31:44PM NO MANAGEMENT RAISES.
9:31:46PM $1.5 MILLION.
9:31:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE 3% COST-OF-LIVING INCREASE OR JUST A
9:31:53PM RAISE.
9:31:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY ARE GETTING 10%.
9:31:55PM IT'S 10% IN THIS BUDGET.
9:31:57PM WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT.
9:31:58PM NOT EVERYBODY.
9:32:00PM AND OUR PEOPLE ARE PHENOMENAL.
9:32:02PM BUT WE CANNOT AFFORD TO GIVE 10% TO EVERYONE.
9:32:06PM AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
9:32:08PM WE HAVE HAD A 20% INCREASE IN PERSONNEL --
9:32:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE AS
9:32:13PM WELL WHEN YOU SAY THAT IN TERMS OF INCREASE?
9:32:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A CONTRACT.
9:32:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M SAYING WOULD YOU INCLUDE THEIR
9:32:20PM SALARIES IN THAT AS WELL AS FAR AS AN INCREASE.
9:32:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN'T.
9:32:23PM THEY HAVE A CONTRACT.
9:32:25PM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE BOOTS ON
9:32:28PM THE GROUND AS ARE OUR ATU EMPLOYEES.
9:32:30PM THOSE ARE THE EMPLOYEES THAT NEED THE RAISE.
9:32:32PM THOSE ARE THE EMPLOYEES THAT THAT 10% -- YEAH, THEY HAVE
9:32:36PM SEPARATE NEGOTIATIONS, BUT THOSE ARE THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND
9:32:40PM WHERE THE 10% IS GOING TO MEAN A LOT MORE.
9:32:43PM AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO THINK.
9:32:48PM 20% INCREASE IN PERSONNEL COSTS IN TWO YEARS, 20%.
9:32:52PM THAT'S A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
9:32:54PM WE HAVE NO NEED FOR SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL HIRES, AS YOU
9:32:57PM DID THE MATH ALREADY, I THINK WE CAN SAVE A MILLION, IF NOT
9:33:00PM MORE.
9:33:01PM DON'T FORGET, THAT'S BENEFITS AND TAXES INCLUDED.
9:33:04PM WE DO NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE RESERVES.
9:33:11PM IF WE CUT BETWEEN 1 TO 3 PERCENT OF RESERVES, THAT'S 1.5 TO
9:33:15PM 4.5 MILLION.
9:33:16PM I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS THEIR DIFFERENT OPINION.
9:33:19PM I'M THROWING OUT THINGS I FOUND.
9:33:21PM RIGHT NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A NEED FOR VEHICLE
9:33:26PM REPLACEMENT, BUT THAT IS MORE OF A WANT THAN A NEED.
9:33:29PM IT'S $4.5 MILLION.
9:33:31PM IT'S 1%.
9:33:33PM AND HERE IS THE THING, I WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT IT
9:33:37PM EXCEPT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET, THAT'S
9:33:39PM ALREADY INCLUDED.
9:33:40PM 60 SOME MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT'S IN THE PRESENTATION THE
9:33:44PM MAYOR GAVE US.
9:33:46PM ALSO, I WANT TO STOP BONDING FOR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.
9:33:49PM THERE'S $2.9 MILLION IN THE BUDGET TO BOND FOR VEHICLES.
9:33:55PM $40,000 VEHICLES.
9:33:56PM WE'RE BONDING FOR A VEHICLE.
9:33:58PM I BOND FOR A VEHICLE.
9:34:00PM BUT THE CITY, WE HAVE A 1.92, 2.4 BILLION DOLLAR BUDGET,
9:34:06PM DEPENDS ON WHAT BUDGET YOU LOOK AT BIG BUDGET IS 2.4
9:34:09PM BILLION, THE BUDGET WE WERE GIVEN WAS 1.9 BILLION.
9:34:13PM OBVIOUSLY, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A WHILE AGO, NOT PAYING FOR
9:34:16PM CREDIT CARD FEES OR INCREASING THE ADMIN COST TO PAY FOR
9:34:19PM THEM.
9:34:19PM THAT'S 1.8 MILLION RIGHT THERE.
9:34:21PM WE EITHER ADD A LITTLE ADMIN FEE OR WE MAKE PEOPLE PAY FOR
9:34:26PM IT RIGHT UP FRONT.
9:34:27PM HOWEVER WE WANT TO DO IT, WE CAN GET THAT DOWN.
9:34:30PM THE LOBBY, THEY WANT $250,000, NOT THIS YEAR.
9:34:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 500,000 OVER TWO YEARS.
9:34:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT NOT THIS YEAR.
9:34:38PM >> TO DECORATE THE LOBBY.
9:34:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO FIX IT.
9:34:41PM NOT HERE.
9:34:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT IS THE TITLE?
9:34:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TAMPA MUNICIPAL OFFICE BUILDING LOBBY.
9:34:51PM >> GREATEST MONSTROSITY BUILT IN TAMPA.
9:34:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I HAVE TO SAY LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, TPD
9:35:02PM CELL PHONES, $300,000.
9:35:04PM WE JUST PAID LAST YEAR 2.8 MILLION TO REVAMP THEIR RADIO.
9:35:09PM AND THAT'S WHAT THEY REALLY NEED.
9:35:12PM THEY NEED A RADIO.
9:35:13PM THEY EACH HAVE THEIR OWN CAR.
9:35:15PM IN THEIR CAR THEY HAVE A COMPUTER.
9:35:17PM THIS IS JUST NOT THE YEAR FOR CELL PHONES.
9:35:20PM I TALKED TO OFFICERS WHO SAY THEY DON'T WANT THEM BECAUSE
9:35:23PM THEY FEEL IT WILL BE USED FOR -- NOT PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST,
9:35:28PM BUT JUST MORE TRACKING.
9:35:31PM YEAH, BASICALLY TRACKING THEM AND THEY DON'T WANT THAT.
9:35:34PM YOUR AVERAGE POLICE OFFICER THAT I TALKED TO SAID THEY DON'T
9:35:37PM WANT A PHONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO BE TRACKED.
9:35:40PM WHO WANTS TO BE?
9:35:41PM NOBODY DOES.
9:35:43PM THAT ARPA FUNDING IS MY OTHER THING.
9:35:48PM I LOVE THE IDEA, MR. ROBINSON, OF BRINGING, OF TALKING ABOUT
9:35:53PM AN ALTERNATIVE BUDGET AND BRINGING THE BUDGET COMMITTEE
9:35:55PM BACK, IF THEY CAN MEET, TO TALK ABOUT IT.
9:35:58PM BUT THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE I AM.
9:35:59PM THOSE ARE THE CUTS THAT I JUST FOUND TODAY.
9:36:04PM AS I WAS WORKING ON THIS BUDGET.
9:36:06PM WE NEED ALL THESE THINGS.
9:36:09PM WE NEED THE NEEDS, BUT WE CAN FIND THEM WITHIN THE BUDGET WE
9:36:13PM ALREADY HAVE.
9:36:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:36:15PM MR. ROGERO, WHEN YOU STEPPED OUT, I ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT
9:36:27PM THE THREE MOTIONS THAT WERE MADE.
9:36:28PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THOSE, REGARDING
9:36:30PM IF ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES OR AREAS IN THE STATE HAD A
9:36:33PM CHANGE IN MILLAGE REGARDING THE BUDGET ANALYST AS WELL AS
9:36:37PM FIRE STATION AND LAND ACQUISITION PLANS.
9:36:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EXCUSE ME, CHAIR, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF
9:36:44PM CONTINUITY EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SPOKE ON, CAN
9:36:48PM HE ADDRESS THAT FIRST BEFORE HE GOES INTO THE MOTIONS?
9:36:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
9:36:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN HE DO IT, YES OR NO?
9:36:58PM FOR HIM TO GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS OR RESPOND TO THE
9:37:05PM NONDEPARTMENTAL.
9:37:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SURE MR. ROGERO CAN ANSWER THE
9:37:16PM QUESTIONS.
9:37:17PM GO AHEAD.
9:37:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE -- THE
9:37:22PM NONDEPARTMENTAL.
9:37:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS THE FIRST ONE.
9:37:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. SHARP, I THINK SHE HAD ONE THAT WAS
9:37:31PM SUPPOSED TO GO TO ADMIN, IF SHE COULD COME BACK OUT AND GIVE
9:37:34PM THEM MY SLIDES.
9:37:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NONDEPARTMENTAL AND GENERAL,
9:37:39PM NONDEPARTMENTAL ADMINISTRATIVE, 29 MILLION, 102 MILLION.
9:37:45PM WAS THAT A NEGATIVE 15 MILLION LAST YEAR?
9:37:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MA'AM, I AM NOT PRIVY TO THE INFORMATION
9:37:54PM THAT YOU ALL -- I HAVE NOT SEEN THE DOCUMENTATION.
9:37:57PM NOW, I CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, BUT WHAT I WOULD
9:38:00PM LIKE TO DO IS TAKE A LITTLE MORE DETAILED LOOK IN SOME OF
9:38:04PM THE DOCUMENTATION AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH MY RESPONSE.
9:38:08PM I DO THINK THERE ARE A NUMBER OF MISUNDERSTANDINGS, YEAH,
9:38:17PM MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND PERHAPS PARAMETERS, PARDON ME, PERHAPS
9:38:20PM PARAMETERS THAT NOT EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT.
9:38:23PM FOR INSTANCE, I HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY THIS
9:38:26PM EVENING, AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.
9:38:30PM I LOVE TRANSPARENCY.
9:38:32PM THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST TRANSPARENT BUDGETS -- THANK YOU,
9:38:37PM MA'AM -- THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST TRANSPARENT BUDGETS THAT
9:38:40PM I'VE EVER SEEN HERE.
9:38:42PM YOU HEARD MAYOR FREEDMAN EARLIER SAY WE HAVEN'T DONE A
9:38:45PM BUDGET TO THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL IN YEARS.
9:38:47PM SHE SAID IT WASN'T TOO LONG AGO, BUT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT
9:38:51PM HASN'T BEEN DONE IN ABOUT A DECADE AND THAT IS A LINE-ITEM
9:38:55PM BUDGET.
9:38:55PM CITY COUNCIL HAS MADE VERY CLEAR, IN FACT, YOU MADE A MOTION
9:38:58PM THAT FISCAL YEAR '25 BUDGET WILL BE JUST THAT, A PRINTED OUT
9:39:03PM LINE-ITEM BUDGET.
9:39:04PM SO IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY AND TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE
9:39:11PM WHO DIDN'T LIKE, OR WHO WERE UNCOMFORTABLE WORKING WITH THE
9:39:18PM OPEN -- YES, SIR, YES, SIR.
9:39:22PM I'M NOT THROWING STONES.
9:39:24PM DIFFERENT FORMATS FOR DIFFERENT PREFERENCES.
9:39:26PM THIS IS NEARLY 1,000 PAGES OF SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION THAT
9:39:30PM WE'VE PROVIDED OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE PRESENTED TO CITY
9:39:33PM COUNCIL ON AUGUST 3rd IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY.
9:39:37PM AGAIN, TRANSPARENCY VERSUS COMPLEXITY.
9:39:42PM IT'S NOT GOING TO GET LESS COMPLEX.
9:39:45PM ME AND MY SHOP, WE CAN TALK ABOUT -- WE'D LOVE TO TALK ABOUT
9:39:48PM THIS ALL DAY.
9:39:49PM WE EXTENDED INVITATIONS TO EACH CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO COME
9:39:54PM INTO OUR WAR ROOM.
9:39:55PM THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU'VE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF
9:39:57PM THAT TWICE NOW, BUT IT'S NOT GETTING ANY LESS COMPLEX.
9:40:00PM THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME INFERENCE THAT THERE'S DELIBERATE
9:40:04PM HIDING GOING ON AND I TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT.
9:40:07PM I BELIEVE THE SHELL GAME WAS THE EXPRESSION.
9:40:09PM SHELL GAME TO ME INFERS THAT THERE'S NOT A WELL PLANNED AND
9:40:14PM THOUGHT OUT MOVEMENT OF FUNDING.
9:40:17PM MOVEMENT OF FUNDING, BY THE WAY, THAT WE CAN ONLY DO WITH
9:40:20PM THE APPROVAL OF CITY COUNCIL.
9:40:22PM I'LL USE THAT AS A SEGUE TO NONDEPARTMENTAL.
9:40:25PM YOU HEARD MS. POYNOR UP HERE TALKING ABOUT NONDEPARTMENTAL
9:40:29PM AND HOW IT HAD SKYROCKETED BECAUSE THEY ISSUED TOO MUCH
9:40:34PM DEBT.
9:40:36PM NOT MY WORDS, HER WORDS.
9:40:38PM AS COUNCIL KNOWS, ONLY CITY COUNCIL CAN ISSUE DEBT, NEITHER
9:40:41PM THE MAYOR NOR I CAN ISSUE DEBT.
9:40:44PM THAT'S THE LAW.
9:40:45PM ANY DEBT THAT'S ISSUED AND IS WITHIN THE NONDEPARTMENTAL
9:40:49PM FUNDS HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
9:40:53PM WE ANTICIPATE MUCH MORE DEBT IN THE FUTURE AND, OF COURSE,
9:40:57PM AS I'VE SAID, WE'LL BE COMING TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THAT.
9:41:01PM IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO CITY COUNCIL WHETHER THEY WANT TO ISSUE
9:41:05PM THAT DEBT.
9:41:05PM IN TERMS OF THE SPECIFICS ASSOCIATED WITH NONDEPARTMENTAL
9:41:08PM FUNDS, I JUST BEEN GIVEN A COPY OF IT.
9:41:12PM I'D LOVE TO LOOK IT OVER.
9:41:14PM BUT I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY MAD LIBS WITH THE CITY'S FINANCES.
9:41:21PM I'LL TAKE ALL QUESTIONS BUT I'M GOING TO GIVE A WELL
9:41:25PM CONSIDERED AND WELL RESEARCHED ANSWER.
9:41:27PM THAT'S BEST GOVERNMENT OR BEST-PRACTICE GOVERNMENT FINANCE.
9:41:30PM SO I CAN SPEAK IN GENERALITIES ABOUT THE NONDEPARTMENTAL
9:41:35PM FUNDS, BUT I WANT TO REVIEW THE INFORMATION AND I'M HAPPY,
9:41:38PM ALWAYS HAPPY TO PROVIDE A RESPONSE.
9:41:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE, YOU
9:41:45PM KNOW, WHEN WE THROW OUT BIG NUMBERS, ESPECIALLY $102
9:41:47PM MILLION, CLASSIFIED AS JUST NONGOVERNMENTAL, WHAT WAS THE
9:41:54PM EXACT NAME, NONDEPARTMENTAL, NONDEPARTMENTAL ADMINISTRATIVE,
9:41:57PM I KNOW THERE HAS TO BE MORE DETAILS TO THAT.
9:42:00PM IT DOESN'T SIGNIFY THAT THIS IS WASTED DOLLARS IS WHAT I'M
9:42:04PM TRYING TO CONVEY, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT?
9:42:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THAT, BUT I THINK
9:42:08PM THE INFERENCE WAS DIFFERENT.
9:42:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT WAS.
9:42:10PM I APOLOGIZE ON BEHALF OF WHOEVER SAID IT.
9:42:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO APOLOGY NECESSARY, BUT THANK YOU.
9:42:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ARE AN AWARD WINNING ACCOUNTING
9:42:19PM DEPARTMENT AND TRIPLE BOND RATED.
9:42:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ABSOLUTELY.
9:42:22PM IF I MAY USE THAT AS A SEGUE, HEARD NUMEROUS TIMES THIS
9:42:28PM EVENING ABOUT AN AUDIT.
9:42:31PM I'M HAPPY TO BE AUDITED.
9:42:33PM AS COUNCIL KNOWS, I'M AUDITED EVERY SINGLE YEAR BY AN
9:42:37PM INDEPENDENT CPA FIRM.
9:42:39PM AND BOTH MY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND THE BUDGET, AS YOU
9:42:43PM KNOW, AS YOU JUST SAID, RECEIVE AWARDS FROM THE PREEMINENT
9:42:48PM GOVERNMENT FINANCE ORGANIZATION IN THE UNITED STATES.
9:42:51PM MOREOVER, I'M AUDITED INTERNALLY FOR PERFORMANCE BY THE
9:42:56PM INTERNAL AUDIT DEPARTMENT.
9:42:57PM I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED IT, BUT I WILL MENTION, THAT
9:43:00PM THIRD PARTY INDEPENDENT CPA FIRM AUDIT OF OUR FINANCIAL
9:43:04PM STATEMENTS HAS BEEN STELLAR FOR YEARS.
9:43:07PM THERE'S NO OTHER WAY TO PUT IT.
9:43:09PM ABSOLUTELY STELLAR.
9:43:11PM AS I'VE ALSO MENTIONED TO CITY COUNCIL AND I'LL SHARE IT
9:43:14PM WITH THE PUBLIC, WE ARE SCRUTINIZED PERIODICALLY, BUT AT
9:43:19PM LEAST ONCE A YEAR BY THE THREE MAJOR RATING AGENCIES IN THE
9:43:23PM COUNTRY.
9:43:23PM THEY TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
9:43:25PM THEY CALL IT SURVEILLANCE, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
9:43:28PM THEY COME IN HERE AND THEY LOOK AT HOW WE'RE MANAGING OUR
9:43:31PM FUNDING, NOT JUST OUR DEBT, BUT OUR RESERVES.
9:43:35PM WE'VE MENTIONED OUR RESERVES, AND IN NEARLY THE SAME
9:43:38PM SENTENCE WE'VE MENTIONED INSURANCE INCREASING?
9:43:41PM WHY, BECAUSE OF HURRICANES.
9:43:43PM THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WE HAVE A STRONG RESERVE.
9:43:47PM BUT ALL OF THESE THINGS CONTRIBUTE TO -- I'LL USE THE WORD
9:43:52PM AGAIN, AND IT'S NOT DENNIS, AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE.
9:43:56PM IT'S THE ORGANIZATION, AND I INCLUDE COUNCIL IN THAT.
9:43:59PM THEY ALL CONTRIBUTE -- ALL OF THOSE FACTORS CONTRIBUTE TO
9:44:02PM OUR STELLAR, ABSOLUTELY STELLAR CREDIT RATINGS.
9:44:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT.
9:44:08PM I BELIEVE IT WAS MY SECOND WEEK ON COUNCIL, EVERYONE OPENED
9:44:11PM UP THEIR MICROPHONES AND SAID CONGRATULATIONS REGARDING THE
9:44:14PM COMMENDATION THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED BACK IN THE MONTH OF MAY
9:44:18PM FOR THIS VERY, VERY THING.
9:44:20PM SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
9:44:21PM CAN YOU ADDRESS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE HUMAN CAPITAL THE
9:44:29PM INCREASE IN PERSONNEL OR IS THAT SOMETHING, CHIEF BENNETT,
9:44:33PM YOU WANT TO ADDRESS?
9:44:34PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I CAN CERTAINLY BEGIN AND, OF COURSE, CHIEF
9:44:38PM OF STAFF, HE'S GOT MORE DETAILED KNOWLEDGE OF OUR PERSONAL
9:44:42PM SITUATION THAN I DO.
9:44:43PM YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS IT GENERALLY.
9:44:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHEN SOMEONE SAYS SOMETHING IS NOT NEEDED,
9:44:48PM I DON'T WANT TO JUMP ON THAT BECAUSE I SEE ENERGY EFFICIENT
9:44:50PM AND CARBON ANALYSIS POSITION, $82,000 A YEAR THAT WAS
9:44:54PM INCREASED BY $20,000, ACCORDING TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, AND
9:44:58PM MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE WE COULDN'T FIND ANYBODY.
9:45:00PM I DON'T KNOW.
9:45:01PM MAYBE THERE IS A SPECIFIC SKILL WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND MAYBE
9:45:04PM NO ONE TOOK THE BAIT FOR $62,000 IS WHAT I'M THINKING,
9:45:08PM BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC ENTITY AND NOT PRIVATE INDUSTRY.
9:45:11PM EVEN FOR THE PUBLIC SAKE, WHEN WE'RE ADDRESSING THINGS LIKE
9:45:16PM THAT, I DON'T WANT TO ASSUME THAT THE POSITION IS NOT NEEDED
9:45:18PM JUST BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HIRE FOR IT.
9:45:20PM I DON'T WANT TO INSULT THE MAYOR.
9:45:22PM SHE'S ASKING FOR SOMETHING, ADVISOR, MAYBE DON'T HAVE ALL
9:45:26PM THE DETAILS FOR THE POSITION, AND WE'RE SITTING HERE HEEING
9:45:29PM AND HAWING ABOUT $500,000 THAT IS BEING ASKED FOR IN TERMS
9:45:33PM OF PERSONNEL AND AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMING THAT'S TOO MUCH.
9:45:37PM THERE HAS TO BE A REASON BEHIND IT.
9:45:39PM I DON'T THINK THESE JOBS ARE JUST LISTED HERE RANDOMLY AND
9:45:43PM WE CAN AUTOMATICALLY CUT THEM JUST BECAUSE WE SEE THEM AS
9:45:47PM NEW ON THE BOOKS.
9:45:49PM IF YOU WANT TO PUSH BACK ON IT OR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I
9:45:53PM COULD ALSO AGREE WITH HER POINT AS WELL.
9:45:56PM GO AHEAD.
9:45:56PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
9:46:00PM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:46:01PM I THINK WE MENTIONED DURING THE PRESENTATION AND MAYBE
9:46:03PM DURING THE WORKSHOP THAT EVERY YEAR WE GO THROUGH A ROBUST,
9:46:06PM FULL-TIME EQUIVALENCY CALLED FTE ANALYSIS.
9:46:09PM WE START WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WANT, BECAUSE COUNCIL
9:46:13PM APPROVES THE BUDGET WITH THE PUBLIC, AND WE WANT TO MAKE
9:46:15PM SURE WE HAVE THE LOWEST ATTRITION RATE POSSIBLE.
9:46:18PM WHEN I GOT HERE, I SET A GOAL, A TARGET OF 5% PER
9:46:22PM DEPARTMENT, MEANING THE TURNOVER SHOULD STAY AT 5% OR LESS
9:46:26PM IDEALLY.
9:46:27PM AND IF WE SEE IT GO ABOVE THAT TO ANY DEGREE, WE START A
9:46:30PM TASK FORCE AROUND THAT DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FILL
9:46:35PM WHAT COUNCIL APPROVED TO GIVE THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TO THE
9:46:38PM COMMUNITY.
9:46:38PM OF COURSE, COVID PUT A BIG DAMPER.
9:46:43PM THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS HAS DIMINISHED OVER TIME, EVEN
9:46:46PM THOUGH COUNCIL SUPPORTED A GREAT SALARY BENEFIT PACKAGE.
9:46:50PM WE'RE VERY COMPETITIVE.
9:46:51PM WE LOOK ACROSS THOSE DOMAINS.
9:46:55PM BETWEEN THE MARKET RATE, THE INFLATION RATE, THE TOTAL
9:46:59PM COMPENSATION RATE, BUT ALL AGAINST WHAT WE NEED FOR CITY
9:47:01PM SERVICES AS WELL.
9:47:02PM SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, IT'S A VERY LONG PROCESS.
9:47:07PM EACH DIRECTOR AND ADMINISTRATOR COMES IN WITH FTE, WHETHER
9:47:10PM IT'S IN THE ENTERPRISE FUND, THE GENERAL FUND, OR ANY OTHER
9:47:14PM FUND.
9:47:15PM AND I BELIEVE THIS YEAR WE WERE AT A NEGATIVE FIVE TOTAL
9:47:19PM POSITIONS COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS BUDGET.
9:47:21PM SO THAT SHOWS YOU THAT WHEN WE WERE BROUGHT 135, I THINK
9:47:26PM ROUGHLY 135 POSITIONS FROM ALL OF THE STAFF MEMBERS, AND WE
9:47:31PM WENT THROUGH IT ALL, WE ENDED UP AT NEGATIVE 5.
9:47:34PM SO THAT SHOWS YOU THAT 140 OF THOSE WERE ACTUALLY CUT DURING
9:47:38PM THIS PROCESS INSIDE THE ADMINISTRATION BEFORE IT CAME TO
9:47:44PM COUNCIL FOR PROPOSED APPROVAL.
9:47:48PM NOW, DRILL DOWN ON SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS, WHICH IS WHY WE
9:47:51PM INVITED THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR THE
9:47:57PM COUNCIL MEMBER INTO THE SPACE TO DO THE WORKSHOPPING IS TO
9:48:00PM TALK ABOUT ANY OF THESE THINGS AND THEIR MICROCOSM.
9:48:04PM AND SINCE MR. REMER WORKS FOR ME SPECIFICALLY THIS IS THE
9:48:08PM FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE EVER HAD A SUSTAINABILITY AND
9:48:11PM RESILIENCE PROGRAM.
9:48:12PM HIS PITCH FOR THAT POSITION WAS THE MONEY WE WOULD GET BACK
9:48:16PM ON THAT CARBON ANALYSIS WOULD PAY FOR THAT POSITION OVER AND
9:48:21PM OVER AGAIN, BUT NOT ONLY JUST WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, BUT ALL
9:48:25PM OF OUR FUTURE GROWTH.
9:48:26PM SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT FOR THE IDEA OF A PERMANENT POSITION
9:48:30PM TO HAVE BUY-IN.
9:48:31PM I CAN TELL YOU WHEN I WAS RECRUITING FOR MR. REMER POSITION,
9:48:36PM MOST OF THE INDUSTRY AND I TRAVELED ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE
9:48:40PM POND TO OTHER COUNTRIES TO SEE HOW THIS WAS DONE IN 2019,
9:48:44PM MOST PEOPLE COME IN, WRITE A PLAN AND NEVER SEE IT THROUGH.
9:48:48PM THEY LEAVE THE JURISDICTION.
9:48:49PM MR. REMER WAS HIRED BECAUSE HE LIVES HERE.
9:48:52PM HE BREATHES TAMPA, HE LOVES TAMPA.
9:48:54PM HE WANTS TO HIRE A POSITION THAT'S GOING TO MIMIC HIS
9:48:57PM LEADERSHIP STYLE AND STAY WITH THE PROGRAM.
9:49:00PM BUT THERE ARE OTHER POSITIONS TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S
9:49:04PM POINT, THAT WE DO EITHER USE THIRD PARTY OR CONSULTANTS
9:49:07PM BECAUSE IT IS A SHORT-TERM PROBLEM.
9:49:09PM BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS OVERCORRECT ON
9:49:12PM PERSONNEL AND THEN START EITHER LAYING OFF OR ATTRITIONING
9:49:16PM OUT POSITIONS.
9:49:16PM SO THERE IS A SWEET SPOT BETWEEN CONTRACTING, CONSULTING,
9:49:21PM AND FTE HIRING, BUT WE GO THROUGH THAT ROBUST EXERCISE EVERY
9:49:25PM YEAR, AND WE ALSO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENT
9:49:28PM DIRECTORS ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY OF THESE CASE BY CASE
9:49:33PM UNDERSTANDING.
9:49:33PM ANY DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE READY TO GO TO TALK ABOUT WHY THEY
9:49:36PM NEED THE SPECIFIC FTEs, WHETHER HR OR SUSTAINABILITY AND
9:49:40PM RESILIENCE OR PERMITTING OR ANY OTHER CATEGORY.
9:49:43PM BUT WE ALSO WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT OTHER IDEAS
9:49:47PM TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE RIGHT LEVEL OF SERVICE.
9:49:50PM THAT IS A BROADBRUSH ON THAT.
9:49:52PM I KNOW CHIEF ROGERO, WE PUT A SLIDE TOGETHER SHOWING WHAT
9:49:55PM THE FTE COUNT WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE GREAT RECESSION AND THE
9:50:00PM FTE COUNT NOW AND STILL BELOW THE NUMBER YET THE POPULATION
9:50:05PM MOVED TO WHERE IT IS.
9:50:07PM WE FEEL WE ARE ON PAR WITH STAFF.
9:50:09PM WHEN YOU COMPARE US TO OTHER MAJOR GOVERNMENTS, WE'RE EITHER
9:50:12PM EQUAL TO OR BELOW THOSE COUNTS IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
9:50:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
9:50:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER
9:50:19PM CARLSON, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:50:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:50:24PM I HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS TO MAKE, BUT I WANT TO SPEAK, IF I
9:50:27PM MAY, RESPONSIVE TO A COUPLE OF ISSUES BROUGHT UP.
9:50:31PM FIRST, TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I MEAN THIS, I REALLY
9:50:36PM APPRECIATE THAT.
9:50:37PM THAT TOOK A LOT OF HARD WORK.
9:50:39PM A LOT OF MICROANALYSIS IN THERE, THAT TOOK HOURS.
9:50:42PM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
9:50:44PM I SEE THAT AND SOME OF THE -- AND VERY TRUE.
9:50:54PM SO VERY TRUE, RECEIPTS.
9:50:56PM I JUST WANTED TO -- THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:51:00PM I THINK WE SHOULD ALL, WHETHER OR NOT IT GOES TO FIRST BASE
9:51:03PM OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, THERE'S A LOT -- I THINK THERE ARE
9:51:10PM SOME, ET CETERA.
9:51:11PM A LOT OF ISSUES BROUGHT UP FOR MR. ROGERO WHICH WE'LL HAVE
9:51:16PM TO GO THROUGH AND WHATNOT.
9:51:17PM ONE THING I THINK WE SHOULD DO, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
9:51:20PM THAT WE MAKE SOME PROGRESS.
9:51:23PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS MEETING IS GOING TO GO THIS EVENING.
9:51:25PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS MEETING IS GOING TO GO.
9:51:27PM I REMEMBER IN 2018, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, COUNCILMAN
9:51:31PM MIRANDA REMEMBER THIS WHERE WE REJECTED I THINK IT WAS
9:51:34PM SECOND READING IN THE BUDGET AND WE WIND UP CONTINUING IT TO
9:51:38PM ANOTHER EVENING.
9:51:39PM THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT MR. ROGERO NEEDS TO LOOK INTO
9:51:45PM AS HE SAID FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S VERY DETAILED
9:51:50PM SUGGESTIONS THAT WE'LL NEED ANSWERS ON, OBVIOUSLY, AND
9:51:52PM WHATNOT.
9:51:53PM SOME OF THE PERSONNEL ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP, I
9:51:58PM DID A QUICK -- I RE-DID MY MATH AND I FOUND, MAY BE OFF, 14,
9:52:05PM 15 MILLION DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET OF SALARIES OVER $150,000.
9:52:09PM IF WE REDUCE THE COST-OF-LIVING ADJUSTMENT, I THINK 4.5%,
9:52:12PM GOING UP BY 2%, THAT RIGHT THERE IS ABOUT $300,000.
9:52:16PM I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THOSE FOLKS ARE IN UNION CONTRACTS,
9:52:19PM ET CETERA.
9:52:20PM IN OTHER WORDS, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO GET
9:52:25PM SAVINGS ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES, ET CETERA.
9:52:27PM ONE THING, AND MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU DID MENTION THIS, I THINK
9:52:31PM ONE OF THE FIRST MOTIONS THAT WE DO AS A DISPOSITIVE ISSUE
9:52:35PM TO THE PUBLIC THAT CAME HERE BECAUSE THERE IS SOME AGREEMENT
9:52:38PM UP HERE.
9:52:38PM THERE IS SOME DISAGREEMENT, THAT IS TO MAKE A MOTION, AND
9:52:41PM MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU BROUGHT THIS UP, SO I WON'T MAKE IT.
9:52:44PM I WOULDN'T DO THAT.
9:52:46PM BUT TO MAKE A MOTION TO AT THE VERY LEAST AS A START, AS A
9:52:50PM BODY, REJECT THE 1.0 MILL SO THAT NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS
9:52:55PM RIGHT HERE TONIGHT, WE AT LEAST KNOW WHERE WE STAND ON THAT.
9:53:00PM WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
9:53:01PM THERE IS A LOT THERE, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE IT OUT THERE FOR
9:53:03PM THE PUBLIC.
9:53:05PM AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TONIGHT IS GOING TO GO.
9:53:09PM JUST A SUGGESTION.
9:53:09PM THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
9:53:11PM I HAVE A LOT OF OTHER COMMENTS ON OTHER ISSUES, BUT I'LL
9:53:14PM DEAL WITH THEM AS THEY ARE BROUGHT UP.
9:53:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILMAN
9:53:17PM MIRANDA.
9:53:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
9:53:20PM I'M SURE I'LL HAVE A LOT TO SAY ALSO.
9:53:24PM I KNOW WE ALL WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET AND SPENT A LOT OF
9:53:27PM TIME WITH OUR ADVISORS.
9:53:30PM I WANT TO ESPECIALLY THANK COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK FOR HER
9:53:34PM PASSION AND DEPTH OF INFORMATION.
9:53:38PM IF WE ALL TAKE THE THINGS WE HAVE FOUND IN THE BUDGET, WE'VE
9:53:41PM GOT TO BE ABLE TO SAVE $45 MILLION.
9:53:45PM WE TALKED ABOUT HOUSING, WHICH I THINK IS ABSOLUTELY A
9:53:49PM PRIORITY FOR ALL OF US.
9:53:51PM I THINK IT'S ONLY IN THE BUDGET FOR FOUR OR FIVE ADDITIONAL
9:53:54PM MILLION.
9:53:54PM AND THE -- SORRY.
9:54:01PM IT'S GETTING LATE.
9:54:02PM THE THING TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW, THE PUBLIC TALKED A LOT
9:54:07PM ABOUT HOUSING.
9:54:08PM EVERYBODY WHO HAS BEEN HERE KNOWS THAT THE CITY HASN'T TAKEN
9:54:13PM HOUSING AS A PRIORITY FOR AT LEAST 12 YEARS.
9:54:17PM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE IORIO ADMINISTRATION.
9:54:19PM FOR A LONG TIME, AFFORDABLE HOUSES WERE TORN DOWN AND PUT IN
9:54:23PM THE -- INSTEAD, REPLACED WITH NOT JUST MARKET RATE HOUSING
9:54:26PM BUT EXPENSIVE HOUSING.
9:54:27PM THE SUBSIDIES WERE GIVEN TO HOUSING FOR MILLIONAIRES, NOT
9:54:31PM FOR PEOPLE WHO COULDN'T AFFORD HOUSING.
9:54:33PM SO THE BEGINNING OF THE BIG CHANGE HAPPENED WITH THE CRA
9:54:40PM BOARD.
9:54:40PM WE PUT 23, 25 MILLION IN FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND
9:54:45PM THEN COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK FOUND ADDITIONAL MONEY TO PUT IT
9:54:49PM FROM THE CITY AND THE MAYOR MATCHED IT WITH FIVE OR SIX
9:54:51PM MILLION.
9:54:54PM 53 MILLION.
9:54:55PM RECORD AMOUNT THAT THE CITY HAS EVER SPENT ON AFFORDABLE
9:54:57PM HOUSING, BUT THAT ALL CAME FROM CITY COUNCIL AND CAME FROM
9:55:00PM LISTENING TO YOU ALL IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:55:02PM WE'VE LISTENED TO YOU FOR -- I'VE LISTENED TO YOU AT LEAST
9:55:05PM FOUR YEARS AND MANY OF US INVOLVED WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING
9:55:07PM BEFORE THEN, BUT WE'VE LISTENED AND WE PUT RECORD AMOUNTS OF
9:55:10PM MONEY IN.
9:55:11PM WE NEED THE ADMINISTRATION TO STEP UP AS WELL.
9:55:13PM UNFORTUNATELY, THE POLITICS OF THIS IS THAT SOME OF THE
9:55:20PM MAYOR'S REPRESENTATIVES ARE OUT THERE -- DID YOU SEE GAME OF
9:55:24PM THRONES, THE KIDS THAT WOULD GO OUT AND WHISPER THINGS.
9:55:28PM THEY GO OUT AND FIND THINGS AND THEY COME BACK AND ALL THE
9:55:31PM LITTLE WHISPERING, OH, THEY DON'T SUPPORT POLICE OR DON'T
9:55:35PM SUPPORT FIRE.
9:55:36PM YOU HAVE TO SHOW UP BECAUSE THEY'LL VOTE AGAINST YOUR
9:55:39PM WHATEVER.
9:55:40PM NONE OF THAT IS NECESSARY.
9:55:41PM THAT'S LIKE HIGH SCHOOL POLITICS.
9:55:42PM VERY AMATEURISH.
9:55:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHO DOES THAT?
9:55:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M NOT GOING TO NAME NAMES.
9:55:50PM DO YOU WANT ME TO NAME NAMES?
9:55:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
9:55:53PM LET'S GET TO THE POINT.
9:55:55PM IT'S 10:00.
9:55:56PM WE HAVE A BIG BUDGET, KEEP IT GOING.
9:55:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS ELECTED BY 60% OF MY CONSTITUENTS
9:56:02PM AGAINST A CAMPAIGN THAT SPENT SEVEN, EIGHT TIMES AS MUCH
9:56:07PM AGAINST ME AND SAID NEGATIVE THINGS ALL THE TIME.
9:56:09PM I THINK I HAVE THE CONFIDENCE IN THE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO
9:56:12PM SAY WHAT'S TRUE.
9:56:13PM I STOOD UP HERE AND DEFENDED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:56:16PM I ACTUALLY MADE THE MOTION ON THE CRA TO PUT IT, MY
9:56:20PM COLLEAGUES SUPPORT IT.
9:56:22PM WE'VE BEEN THERE.
9:56:24PM LAST YEAR, I VOTED AGAINST THE ENTIRE BUDGET AND ONE OF THE
9:56:28PM REASONS WAS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION REFUSED TO INCREASE THE
9:56:30PM ROAD REPAIR BUDGET.
9:56:32PM THEY HAD NOT INCREASED IT FOR FOUR YEARS AND REFUSED TO
9:56:35PM INCREASE IT.
9:56:35PM THIS YEAR I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS BUDGET IF IT
9:56:38PM INCLUDES ANY KIND OF INCREASE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH WASTE
9:56:41PM IN IT.
9:56:41PM I HAVE TOO MUCH RESPECT FOR MR. ROGERO TO GET INTO A DEBATE
9:56:45PM WITH HIM TONIGHT, BUT ALL KINDS OF MONEY BEING HIDDEN.
9:56:48PM ALL KINDS OF SHELL GAME THINGS GOING ON.
9:56:50PM I'M NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND GO THROUGH ALL OF IT LINE BY
9:56:54PM LINE, BUT THERE IS A BIG PROBLEM WITH ALL OF THAT.
9:56:56PM IT'S NOT THE FAULT OF STAFF.
9:56:58PM IT IS THE FAULT OF THE POLITICAL PEOPLE AND WE NEED TO CUT
9:57:01PM THEIR BUDGET OUT -- WE COULD SAVE A MILLION DOLLARS.
9:57:04PM THESE POLITICAL PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND THEIR LOBBYISTS
9:57:08PM PUSHED TO GET US, MAKE US PAY $6 BILLION FOR TOILET, TAP AND
9:57:13PM TRIED TO CHANGE IT, EVEN LAST WEEK THEY SAID, NO, THEY ARE
9:57:16PM NOT GOING TO HELP THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY STOP US FROM
9:57:19PM HAVING A $6 BILLION BURDEN.
9:57:20PM WHY NOT CUT THEM OUT?
9:57:22PM THEY ARE NOT REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE AND NOT REPRESENTING
9:57:24PM US.
9:57:24PM ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS WE COULD SAVE.
9:57:26PM THE THING I WOULD ASK THE ADMINISTRATION, DON'T THINK ABOUT
9:57:28PM IT AS A POLITICAL FIGHT.
9:57:30PM DON'T THINK ABOUT IT AS A POLITICAL GAME.
9:57:32PM IT DOESN'T -- I'VE TOLD MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE, IF YOU LOOK AT
9:57:36PM THE CAMPAIGN ESPECIALLY AGAINST THE TWO OF US, THEY SAID ALL
9:57:40PM KINDS OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T TRUE.
9:57:43PM YOU SHOULD VOTE YOUR HEART THE WAY YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS.
9:57:46PM THIS WILL BE DEVASTATING ON OUR ECONOMY.
9:57:49PM DEVASTATING ON POOR PEOPLE.
9:57:50PM DEVASTATING TO THE MIDDLE CLASS.
9:57:52PM WE KNOW BECAUSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY HAS NOT
9:57:55PM BEEN RUN WELL IN AT LEAST 12 YEARS, WE HAVE HORRIBLE, OUR
9:57:58PM ECONOMY IS HORRIBLE FOR ANYBODY MAKING UNDER $200,000 A
9:58:01PM YEAR.
9:58:02PM PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING.
9:58:03PM WE NEED TO CUT THE BUDGET OF THE EDC, WHICH IS $550,000 A
9:58:09PM YEAR AND PUT THE MONEY IN REAL ACADEMIC DEVELOPMENT.
9:58:11PM THE REASON PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD HOUSES, THEY DON'T HAVE GOOD
9:58:14PM JOBS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SPENDING THE MONEY ON THE WRONG
9:58:17PM THINGS.
9:58:17PM I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, AS SOON AS I'M ABLE, TO GO BACK TO
9:58:20PM THE ROLLED-BACK RATE OF 5.8041.
9:58:24PM EVEN IF IT'S SHOT DOWN, I WANT TO MAKE THE MOTION.
9:58:28PM AND THEN I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SCHEDULE A FOLLOW-UP
9:58:29PM MEETING MAYBE NEXT TUESDAY TO GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAILS.
9:58:33PM MR. ROGERO IS INDICATING HE WANTS US TO TALK TO HIM
9:58:37PM OFF-LINE.
9:58:38PM WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR ADVISORS.
9:58:40PM THIS IS THE ONLY FORUM WHERE WE CAN SHOW NOTES WITH EACH
9:58:43PM OTHER.
9:58:45PM IF MY COLLEAGUES WON'T GO WITH 5.8, LET'S GO WITH 6.2.
9:58:50PM LET'S APPROVE THE MILLAGE TONIGHT AND LET'S SHOW THIS
9:58:52PM ADMINISTRATION THAT WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT THEM NOT WASTING
9:58:55PM MONEY ANYMORE AND LET'S REAFFIRM, WE SHOULD INCLUDE IN OUR
9:58:58PM MOTION FOR 6.2 THAT WE REAFFIRM THE FIVE THINGS, MAKE IT
9:59:03PM FIVE, NOT FOUR, REAFFIRM THE FIVE PRIORITIES THAT THESE ARE
9:59:07PM THE RIGHT THINGS SO THEY CAN'T COME BACK AND SAY YOU DIDN'T
9:59:10PM THINK THEY WERE IMPORTANT, TRYING NOT TO FUND THEM.
9:59:13PM IT'S WE DON'T THINK MONEY SHOULD BE WASTED.
9:59:16PM WE THINK MONEY SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED IN THE RIGHT WAY AND WE
9:59:18PM WANT TO BE GOOD CUSTODIANS OF THE TAXPAYER MONEY THEY
9:59:22PM ENTRUST WITH US THANK YOU.
9:59:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:59:24PM BEFORE COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, YOU SAID YOU WOULD MAKE A
9:59:27PM MOTION TO ROLL IT BACK TO 5.8.
9:59:30PM I WOULD NOT SUPPORT IT.
9:59:31PM I WOULD KEEP THE MILLAGE AT 6.2.
9:59:34PM I THINK GOING BACK FURTHER MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO
9:59:36PM MANAGE THE BUDGET MOVING FORWARD.
9:59:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS LONG AS I'M ABLE TO MAKE THE MOTION --
9:59:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION.
9:59:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAKE IT NOW.
9:59:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION --
9:59:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S WAIT FOR THE MOTIONS.
9:59:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS GOING TO SAY, I WAS GOING TO MAKE A
9:59:53PM MOTION FOR THE 6.2 SOMETHING, BUT IF -- HE HAD THE FLOOR, I
9:59:57PM WANTED TO BE NICE ENOUGH TO LET HIM MAKE THE MOTION AT
10:00:01PM 5.8041.
10:00:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE'S STILL NOT DONE TALKING.
10:00:06PM I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING I WAS GOING TO
10:00:08PM MAKE THE MOTION TO KEEP IT BACK TO 6.2.
10:00:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M GOING TO SAY I'M NOT HERE TO SAY THAT
10:00:15PM SOMEBODY IS DOING SOMETHING ILLEGAL.
10:00:18PM SOMEBODY IS HIDING NUMBERS AND HIDING MONEY AND ALL THAT.
10:00:21PM THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO MEET NEXT TUESDAY TO FIND OUT HOW
10:00:24PM IT CAME TOGETHER AND WHAT IT IS.
10:00:26PM I'M AT A DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE I DON'T DO COMPUTERS.
10:00:29PM I DIDN'T HAVE A PAPER BOOK.
10:00:31PM GOING BY MEMORY.
10:00:32PM EVERYTHING I'M SAYING IS MY MEMORY.
10:00:34PM THANK GOD I'M BALD.
10:00:36PM IF NOT, I COULDN'T THINK.
10:00:38PM IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS A BREAK.
10:00:43PM WAY BACK, THE GOVERNMENT OF TAMPA IS CHANGING.
10:00:46PM IT'S GONE FROM, LIKE I SAY WHEN I FIRST STARTED, AGAIN, FOR
10:00:49PM ME TO SAY WHEN I FIRST STARTED, IF I DO THAT, I HAVE TO TELL
10:00:53PM YOU WHAT A GALLON OF MILK COST IN 1974.
10:00:57PM WHAT THE APARTMENT COST IN 1974, WHAT A CAR COST IN 1974.
10:01:02PM IT WOULD NOT BE COMPARABLE FOR ME TO TELL THE PUBLIC
10:01:04PM SOMETHING AND BRING IT UP TO THIS DATE WHEN IT'S ALTOGETHER
10:01:07PM DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT BASED ON INCOME.
10:01:09PM I'M JUST THROWING IT OUT AND I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
10:01:12PM I'LL RESTRICT MYSELF TO JUST SAYING, WE GOT TO CONTINUE
10:01:15PM WORKING TOGETHER.
10:01:16PM WE GOT TO CONTINUE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE GOT A
10:01:20PM 5,000 OR 10,000 OR 20,000 DOLLAR RAISE.
10:01:24PM I DON'T KNOW IF ANY GOT THAT.
10:01:26PM I DON'T KNOW MINIMUM 3%, 4%.
10:01:29PM THAT'S WHAT I GOT TO LOOK AT.
10:01:31PM I GOT TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
10:01:33PM I'M NOT HERE TO CAST ASPERSIONS THAT THIS IS WRONG.
10:01:40PM THIS GOVERNMENT, AS FAR AS I KNOW HAS ALWAYS BEEN
10:01:44PM ABOVEBOARD.
10:01:45PM I'M NOT CASTING ASPERSIONS ON EITHER SIDE.
10:01:48PM I'M SAYING THE WAY I THINK.
10:01:54PM YOU HAVE TO PROVE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND THAT'S WHAT I
10:01:57PM LEARNED GOING TO THAT HIGH SCHOOL CALLED JEFFERSON.
10:02:00PM ANYWAY, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
10:02:02PM I AGREE WITH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT.
10:02:05PM NO DOUBT EVERYTHING OUGHT TO BE LOOKED AT JUST BECAUSE YOU
10:02:08PM HAVE AN INCREASE IN EVALUATION AND YOU'LL HAVE ONE NEXT
10:02:11PM YEAR.
10:02:12PM HOPEFULLY WHETHER WE'RE ALL HERE NEXT YEAR.
10:02:15PM WHO KNOWS, GOD MAY CALL US TO GO ANSWER THE PHONE.
10:02:19PM THAT'S ALL I CAN TELL YOU.
10:02:22PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ONE THING I WANT TO CLARIFY TONIGHT AND
10:02:26PM THIS IS OBVIOUSLY YOUR DECISION, BUT THIS HEARING TONIGHT
10:02:29PM YOU DO NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHAT THE MAXIMUM
10:02:32PM MILLAGE RATE WILL BE.
10:02:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL.
10:02:34PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU ALSO HAVE TO DO A FIRST READING OF THE
10:02:37PM PROPOSED BUDGET ORDINANCE.
10:02:39PM NOW, THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE FINAL.
10:02:42PM WE CAN MAKE FURTHER REVISIONS AT SECOND READING.
10:02:45PM THOSE ARE THE TWO ACTIONS YOU HAVE TO TAKE TONIGHT.
10:02:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MASSEY, WE MAKE A MOTION AND WE SET
10:02:50PM THE MILLAGE.
10:02:51PM WE DO THAT.
10:02:51PM THEN WE READ ON ORDINANCE FIRST READING THE BUDGET, HOWEVER
10:02:58PM WE'RE MEETING NEXT TUESDAY APPARENTLY AND THEN WE HAVE THE
10:03:00PM SECOND READING OF THE BUDGET, MEANING WE ARE NOT ADOPTING
10:03:04PM THE BUDGET.
10:03:05PM ADJUST THE BUDGET.
10:03:06PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU HAVE TO DO THE FIRST READING OF THE
10:03:08PM ORDINANCE APPROVING THE BUDGET TONIGHT.
10:03:10PM YOU CAN MAKE ALTERATIONS TO THE BUDGET ON THE NEXT PUBLIC
10:03:16PM HEARING THE 19th.
10:03:17PM NOT SAYING YOU CAN HAVE A WORKSHOP AND TAKE NO ACTION, GET
10:03:20PM FURTHER INFORMATION FROM STAFF ABOUT THE BUDGET.
10:03:22PM WE COULD POSSIBLY DO THAT.
10:03:24PM BUT THE HEARINGS HAVE TO TAKE PLACE, CLEARLY DEFINED NOTICE
10:03:28PM TIMES.
10:03:29PM THIS IS GOVERNED BY STATE LAW, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
10:03:31PM REVENUE.
10:03:32PM WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL HOW WE DO THIS.
10:03:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE REJECT THIS FIRST READING OF THE
10:03:38PM BUDGET --
10:03:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT HAPPENS THEN, MR. MASSEY?
10:03:42PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THEN WE'RE POTENTIALLY IN A PREDICAMENT
10:03:47PM WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET ADOPTED, WHICH IS A PROBLEM FOR
10:03:52PM US.
10:03:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DISAGREE.
10:03:54PM SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
10:03:55PM WE STILL HAVE THE 26th.
10:03:57PM WE STILL HAVE AN EXTRA WEEK.
10:03:59PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: BUT WE HAVE TO ADOPT IT BY ORDINANCE, WHICH
10:04:01PM MEANS HAS TO BE TWO READINGS AND READINGS AT LEAST TEN DAYS
10:04:05PM APART AND SCHEDULED.
10:04:06PM WHAT I'M SAYING IS KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AS WELL,
10:04:10PM MS. HURTAK, IS THAT YOUR FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE
10:04:13PM APPROVING THE BUDGET BASED ON THE REDUCED MILLAGE RATE WHICH
10:04:17PM APPARENTLY MAY BE PASSED TONIGHT, YOU CAN DO THAT AND YOU
10:04:20PM CAN MAKE FURTHER ADJUSTMENTS TO THE BUDGET AT THE SECOND
10:04:24PM READING TO CLARIFY EXACTLY WHERE THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE
10:04:27PM SPENT.
10:04:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL WOMAN HENDERSON, I SAW YOUR
10:04:32PM HAND.
10:04:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING ME.
10:04:34PM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:04:36PM JUST FROM THE GENERALITIES SPOKEN UP HERE ON THE DAIS, IT
10:04:39PM STARTED WITH LUIS VIERA SAYING, COUNCILMAN VIERA SAYING THAT
10:04:45PM THERE ARE A LOT OF SALARIES OVER $150,000 THAT WE SHOULD
10:04:48PM CONSIDER.
10:04:49PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID THAT PEOPLE WHO MAKE UNDER $200,000
10:04:52PM ARE SUFFERING.
10:04:54PM WHICH ONE IS IT?
10:04:55PM COUNCILMAN VIERA IS SAYING THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT MAKE A
10:04:59PM LOT OF MONEY AND MAYBE WE SHOULD CONSIDER LOOKING AT THOSE
10:05:02PM SALARIES AND THEN WE HAVE A COUNCILMAN THAT SAYS $200,000,
10:05:05PM PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING.
10:05:07PM I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SPEAK THIS LANGUAGE SO BROADLY BECAUSE
10:05:10PM I AM A TEACHER THAT MAKES $66,000 AND I DID NOT SUFFER AT
10:05:17PM ALL.
10:05:17PM I DID NOT SUFFER.
10:05:18PM I LIVED WITHIN MY MEANS.
10:05:20PM IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO THE CITY EMPLOYEES TO DIMINISH THE
10:05:25PM INCOME LEVELS OF WHERE THEY ARE AND THE INCOME THAT THEY
10:05:27PM HAVE EARNED BASED ON THE SALARIES THAT THIS DAIS APPROVED.
10:05:32PM I JUST DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SPEAK SO LOOSELY REGARDING THAT
10:05:36PM WHEN WE DIVE INTO THIS BUDGET, DIGGING AT THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:05:39PM I DON'T LIKE THE TERMINOLOGY OF THE WORDS USED AS SHELL
10:05:43PM GAMES.
10:05:44PM I JUST DON'T SEE THAT BEING PRESENTED BY STAFF AND I JUST
10:05:47PM REJECT THAT TYPE OF TERMINOLOGY.
10:05:50PM ALSO THE POLITICAL PEOPLE, THE MILLION DOLLARS THAT WE SPEND
10:05:54PM APPARENTLY ON LOBBYISTS, WHO DO THEY WORK FOR, MR. ROGERO?
10:06:01PM DO THEY WORK FOR STAFF OR DO THEY WORK FOR CITY COUNCIL WHEN
10:06:05PM THEY -- THEY WORK FOR STAFF?
10:06:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT WOULD NOT BE UP TO ME TO ANSWER.
10:06:11PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
10:06:14PM WHEN MR. CARLSON ASKED McLANE EVANS OF MY OFFICE LAST WEEK
10:06:18PM ABOUT, UNDER THE CHARTER, WHO DOES THE LOBBYIST FOR THE CITY
10:06:24PM REPORT TO, AND YOU ASKED HER A NARROW QUESTION.
10:06:28PM SHE GAVE YOU THE NARROW ANSWER, WHICH IS TECHNICALLY UNDER
10:06:30PM THE CHARTER.
10:06:32PM THAT'S WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THE MAYOR, BUT THAT'S NOT TO
10:06:36PM SUGGEST THAT THE MAYOR OR HER STAFF DOESN'T WANT AND
10:06:42PM ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO GIVE HER SUGGESTIONS ABOUT ITEMS ON
10:06:48PM WHICH THEY SHOULD LOBBY ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, NOT ON BEHALF
10:06:51PM OF THE MAYOR, NOT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL, ON BEHALF OF THE
10:06:55PM CITY.
10:06:55PM IN THE INSTANCE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT LAST WEEK, SENATE BILL
10:06:59PM 64, COUNCIL MADE A MOTION SEVERAL MONTHS AGO BEFORE MR.
10:07:06PM CLENDENIN AND MS. HENDERSON, YOU WERE ON COUNCIL.
10:07:09PM THE MAYOR DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, GO NO, NO, THAT IS A CHARTER
10:07:15PM THING, I'M NOT GOING TO DO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
10:07:17PM SHE SENT BACK OR HER STAFF SENT BACK WHAT I THOUGHT WAS A
10:07:22PM VERY DETAILED MEMORANDUM EXPLAINING THE POLITICS BEHIND WHAT
10:07:27PM WAS GOING ON IN TALLAHASSEE WITH REGARD TO WATER, WHO THE
10:07:32PM SPONSORS OF THE ORIGINAL BILL WERE, WHERE THEY WERE NOW,
10:07:39PM WHICH IN VERY HIGH POSITIONS.
10:07:41PM 2019 UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED, IT WASN'T A REPUBLICAN OR
10:07:43PM DEMOCRAT THING.
10:07:44PM IT WAS BIPARTISAN.
10:07:46PM BUT IT ALSO WENT INTO DETAIL EXPLAINING WHAT THE OTHER WATER
10:07:50PM UTILITIES ACROSS THE STATE WERE DOING AND HOW TAMPA, THEY
10:07:58PM BASICALLY -- LOBBYIST CONCLUDED AFTER ALL THE ANALYSIS IN
10:08:01PM THAT MEMO THAT -- AND THEY ACTUALLY WERE TOLD THIS BY
10:08:06PM LEGISLATORS UP IN TALLAHASSEE THAT WAS A LOSING PROPOSITION
10:08:09PM AND IT WOULD HURT THE CITY, NOT HELP THE CITY TO TRY TO UNDO
10:08:15PM THAT BILL OR AMEND THE BILL IN THE WAY IT WAS REQUESTED.
10:08:18PM THAT WAS ALL IN THE MEMO.
10:08:19PM SO THE MEMO WASN'T SAYING TO COUNCIL, GET BACK IN YOUR LANE,
10:08:26PM THIS IS A MAYORAL DECISION.
10:08:27PM THE MEMO WAS EXPLAINING WE CONSIDERED WHAT YOU ASKED AND
10:08:30PM HERE'S WHY OUR LOBBYIST DON'T RECOMMEND IT.
10:08:33PM WHICH IS A VERY LONG WAY OF SAYING THE LOBBYIST, YOU KNOW,
10:08:39PM WHILE THEY MAY BE HIRED BY THE ADMINISTRATION, WHILE THEY
10:08:41PM MAY ANSWER TO THE ADMINISTRATION, THEY LOBBY ON BEHALF OF
10:08:43PM THE ENTIRE CITY.
10:08:46PM AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATION DOES TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT YOU
10:08:51PM EXPRESSED WITH REGARD TO LOBBYING REQUESTS.
10:08:55PM YOU MAY DISAGREE WITH THE LOBBYIST'S CONCLUSION IN THAT
10:08:58PM PARTICULAR CASE, BUT THEY SPELLED IT OUT VERY CLEARLY.
10:09:02PM AGAIN, THE ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T REJECT COUNCIL'S REQUEST.
10:09:05PM THEY CONSIDERED IT AND JUST REACHED A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION
10:09:10PM BASED ON THEIR LOBBYIST'S RECOMMENDATION.
10:09:12PM I HOPE THAT ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
10:09:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:09:16PM POLITICAL PEOPLE, JUSTIFICATION FOR GETTING RID OF PEOPLE
10:09:20PM BECAUSE COUNCIL DISAGREES WITH THEM IS JUST INAPPROPRIATE.
10:09:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:09:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUPLE OF THINGS -- BY THE WAY, COUNCILMAN
10:09:38PM CLENDENIN --
10:09:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE YET.
10:09:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: PLEASE.
10:09:41PM I TALK TOO MUCH.
10:09:43PM GO FOR IT.
10:09:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS GOING TO SEEM LIKE RANDOM
10:09:49PM THOUGHTS.
10:09:50PM I LISTENED TO EVERYBODY BEFORE I CHIMED IN ON SOME POINTS.
10:09:54PM ONE THING THAT SOMEONE IN PUBLIC DURING PUBLIC COMMENT SAID
10:10:00PM AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, NO ONE IS COMING TO SAVE US ON A
10:10:03PM LOT OF THESE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES.
10:10:04PM THERE ARE PROGRAMS FROM OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN GET OUTSIDE
10:10:08PM GRANTS AND ASSISTANCE FROM, BUT A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN'T.
10:10:12PM I WANT THAT TO BE A PREFACE FOR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
10:10:16PM MY GOOD FRIEND MAYOR SANDY FREEDMAN I LOOK TO AS A CONFIDANT
10:10:21PM AND SOMEBODY I SEEK ADVICE FROM FREQUENTLY.
10:10:25PM ONE, WE DID ASK FOR A BUDGET ANALYST, WHICH I THINK MR.
10:10:30PM ROGERO WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO.
10:10:32PM AND IN THIS BUDGET, I THINK THIS IS ALSO WHERE THE AUDIT,
10:10:37PM THIS IS A BUDGET ANALYST THAT WOULD BE REPORTING TO CITY
10:10:40PM COUNCIL.
10:10:42PM I DON'T DOUBT AND OBVIOUSLY CLEARLY THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS
10:10:45PM BEEN A GOOD STEWARD OF THEIR MONEY AS FAR AS FISCAL
10:10:49PM RESOURCES BECAUSE WE PASSED ALL OF THESE AUDITS.
10:10:51PM WE HAVE GREAT BOND RATINGS.
10:10:54PM I DON'T DOUBT THAT WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY THE WAY WE'VE
10:10:58PM TOLD PEOPLE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IT IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY.
10:11:02PM THE ONLY THING LOST IN THE POLITICAL ASPECT ARE THE
10:11:05PM PRIORITIES.
10:11:05PM AUDIT DONE BY THE ADMINISTRATION OR DONE BY THE BOND RATINGS
10:11:09PM ISN'T NECESSARILY MEASURING POLITICAL PRIORITIES.
10:11:11PM AND I THINK POSSIBLY WITH A BUDGET ANALYST THAT REPORTS
10:11:15PM DIRECTLY TO US, WE CAN ESPOUSE WHAT THAT IS AND ASK THEM TO
10:11:20PM LOOK AT THE BUDGET AND FIND OUT WHAT WE CAN SEE, BECAUSE OF
10:11:25PM OUR LIMITED TIME, RESOURCES AND EXPERTISE, IT WILL GIVE US
10:11:28PM IN THE NEXT YEAR THE ABILITY TO DELVE INTO THAT PRODUCT A
10:11:31PM LITTLE BIT DEEPER HAVING THAT RESOURCE.
10:11:34PM THE CITY COUNCIL, I INTRODUCED IT, REQUESTED AFTER
10:11:38PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED ABOUT IT FOR YEARS, WE HAD IT.
10:11:43PM IT WAS PASSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
10:11:44PM I BELIEVE IT WAS UNANIMOUS, TO HIRE THAT FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
10:11:48PM THIS IS SOMETHING COMING IN THE '24 BUDGET CYCLE.
10:11:52PM LOOK FORWARD TO THAT AS WE MOVE INTO THE NEXT YEAR.
10:11:55PM HOUSING.
10:11:59PM I DIDN'T IN MY LONG LITANY OF THINGS THAT WERE NEEDS, NOT
10:12:01PM WANT, I DIDN'T INCLUDE HOUSING, BUT PARTIALLY IT'S BECAUSE I
10:12:06PM WANTED TO CIRCLE BACK THIS POINT THE MAYOR -- BACK TO MAYOR
10:12:10PM FREEDMAN AND WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID EARLIER.
10:12:17PM I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, I DON'T SEE NICOLE
10:12:19PM TRAVIS.
10:12:20PM THERE SHE IS.
10:12:21PM I'VE SPOKEN WITH THEM AT LENGTH ABOUT THAT.
10:12:24PM I THINK IT WAS A TREMENDOUS PROGRAM.
10:12:25PM I THINK IT ENCOURAGES GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
10:12:30PM KEEPS PEOPLE IN EXISTING HOMES, GETS NEW FAMILIES INTO
10:12:32PM HOMES.
10:12:33PM I THINK THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME OF OUR OUTSIDE FUNDING
10:12:35PM FROM STATE, FEDERAL, AND OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE, I
10:12:38PM THINK WE COULD BLEND IT TOGETHER PERFECTLY FOR RENTING
10:12:41PM ASSISTANCE AND ALSO, AGAIN, CREATING THOSE TYPES OF
10:12:44PM PROGRAMS.
10:12:44PM I'M LOOKING FORWARD AND I HOPE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION LOOKS
10:12:48PM SERIOUSLY AT A MAYOR'S CHALLENGE FUND 2.0.
10:12:51PM SAFETY IMPACT, PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEES.
10:12:53PM REGARDLESS OF WHICH WAY THIS DISCUSSION GOES THIS EVENING, I
10:12:57PM THINK IT'S UNDENIABLE THAT WE NEED A DEDICATED REVENUE
10:13:02PM STREAM TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY TAKEN CARE OF IN
10:13:06PM FUTURE BUDGETS.
10:13:07PM I THINK ONE OF THE MOST RELIABLE WAYS OF AT LEAST PROVIDING
10:13:12PM SOME OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT THAT WE NEED TO MAKE IN
10:13:15PM PUBLIC SAFETY IS THAT.
10:13:16PM NOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE'S PROBABLY BEEN AND MAYBE THE CHIEF
10:13:20PM OR MR. ROGERO YOU CAN SAY, SURELY YOU GUYS HAVE STUDIED THE
10:13:24PM IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEES.
10:13:28PM IF YOU HAVEN'T, CAN YOU GET BACK TO US IF WE HAVE THIS
10:13:31PM MEETING NEXT TUESDAY ABOUT HOW MUCH THE PROJECTED REVENUE
10:13:35PM WOULD BE AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD OVER
10:13:39PM THE NEXT SEVERAL FISCAL YEARS AND WHAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH BY
10:13:45PM USING THAT PROCESS.
10:13:46PM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO LOOK INTO.
10:13:50PM I'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR UP HERE ABOUT HOW I FELT ABOUT -- I
10:13:54PM KNOW YOU SAY IT'S TRANSPARENT.
10:13:56PM I UNDERSTAND.
10:13:56PM I SEE WHY FROM YOUR -- EXCUSE MY EXPRESSION -- NERDISH
10:14:02PM PERSPECTIVE BEING WITH YOUR GLASSES AND YOU'RE ALL SO NEAT
10:14:06PM AND YOU COME FROM THAT ACCOUNTANT WORLD.
10:14:09PM BUT FOR ME BEING A POLITICO, IT IS DIFFICULT.
10:14:12PM AS YOU SO RIGHTLY SAID, WE HAVE THAT INITIATIVE.
10:14:15PM WE REQUEST THAT IT IS IN WRITING.
10:14:19PM AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE MORE DETAILED.
10:14:21PM WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO DIG INTO THIS DEEPER, NEEDS TO BE MORE
10:14:26PM TRANSPARENT, LIKE USING THE RESERVE FUNDS AS PARKING.
10:14:29PM COMMUNICATING THESE THINGS SO WE SEE, OTHERWISE IT SENDS UP
10:14:33PM FLAGS WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING THROUGH THINGS.
10:14:35PM THEY MAY SEE IT IS A RED HERRING, BUT WHEN THEY LOOK AT IT
10:14:39PM AND DON'T HAVE THE EXPLANATION, THEY THINK, OH, THERE MUST
10:14:43PM BE A PROBLEM, WHEN TRYING TO IDENTIFY THE BUDGET, MAYBE
10:14:46PM LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT'S NOT THERE.
10:14:48PM SALARY INCREASES, WHAT WAS THE -- SO FROM FISCAL YEAR '23 TO
10:14:53PM '24, THE SALARY INCREASES THAT WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO --
10:15:01PM CAN I --
10:15:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO ASK A QUESTION.
10:15:04PM RATHER THAN HAVING SIDEBAR IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER, BECAUSE
10:15:07PM THE PUBLIC DOESN'T HEAR WHAT COUNCIL -- MAYBE COUNCIL
10:15:12PM MEMBERS DO HAVE THE ANSWER.
10:15:13PM IF YOU HAVE THE ANSWER, PLEASE DO IT SO THAT THE MICROPHONES
10:15:16PM ARE ON AND EVERYBODY HEARS IT.
10:15:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EITHER ONE OF YOU KNOW WHAT WAS THE SALARY
10:15:20PM IMPACT FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR TO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, HOW
10:15:23PM MUCH WILL IT COST THE CITY OF TAMPA TOTAL?
10:15:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, ABSOLUTELY.
10:15:28PM IF I CAN CLARIFY, ARE YOU ASKING FOR THE COST OF THE SALARY
10:15:31PM INCREASES SPECIFICALLY I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT THE
10:15:34PM COST-OF-LIVING INCREASE.
10:15:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
10:15:37PM TOTAL SALARY INCREASES, BENEFIT, MERIT, EVERYTHING, THE COST
10:15:41PM OF THE INCREASE OF PERSONNEL FROM LAST FISCAL YEAR TO THIS
10:15:45PM PROPOSED BUDGET.
10:15:48PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: OKAY.
10:15:49PM THAT'S DIFFERENT.
10:15:50PM I'LL HAVE TO CIRCLE BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
10:15:53PM WE'VE GOT IT INCREMENTALLY.
10:16:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M BEING TOLD 41.3 MILLION.
10:16:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT IS THE COST IN FISCAL YEAR 23 OF THE
10:16:07PM COST-OF-LIVING INCREASE CITYWIDE.
10:16:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT IT COST US THIS YEAR?
10:16:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
10:16:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE 54 MILLION.
10:16:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE POINT IS PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE REVENUE
10:16:23PM INCREASES BASED ON THE APPRAISED VALUE OF PROPERTIES AND ALL
10:16:26PM THE PROJECTS, IF YOU LOOK, THAT NUMBER ALONE ATE UP EVERY
10:16:31PM BIT OF THE INCREASE AND MORE.
10:16:34PM IF WE DO NOTHING, WE CAN'T EVEN PAY THE INCREASE IN SALARIES
10:16:39PM WITH WHAT THE INCREASE IN REVENUE FROM THESE INCREASED
10:16:42PM PROJECTS AND STUFF THAT HAPPENED AROUND THE CITY.
10:16:44PM WHAT'S HAPPENED FROM THIS DAY BACKWARDS, WE CAN'T DO
10:16:50PM ANYTHING ABOUT.
10:16:51PM I CAN'T GO BACK.
10:16:52PM I'M NOT TAKING RAISES AWAY FROM PEOPLE.
10:16:54PM I'M NOT CUTTING PEOPLE'S SALARIES.
10:16:56PM I'M NOT ABLE TO FIX THAT.
10:16:59PM AGAIN, IF WE DON'T RAISE A SINGLE PENNY, WE CAN'T EVEN MEET
10:17:03PM WHAT OUR OBLIGATIONS ARE FOR THE INCREASE THAT WE'VE
10:17:06PM COMMITTED TO, TO THE EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY, AND THAT'S IF WE
10:17:10PM DO NOTHING.
10:17:11PM EVERYBODY NEEDS TO REMEMBER THAT.
10:17:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SORRY, COUNCILMAN.
10:17:15PM I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOUR TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
10:17:18PM IN RESPONDING TO YOUR QUESTION, AND THIS IS ONE OF THE
10:17:21PM REASONS THAT I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU, AGAIN, YOU'VE GOT
10:17:26PM THE COST-OF-LIVING INCREASE, MERIT AND/OR STEP INCREASE.
10:17:30PM AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE BENEFITS.
10:17:33PM MANY OF THE BENEFITS ARE INDEXED TO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE
10:17:37PM SALARY.
10:17:38PM I TAKE IT LITERALLY, THAT IS MY NERDISH WAY, THEY SAY
10:17:43PM SALARY, I GIVE THE SALARY FIGURE, IT IS NOT THE ENTIRETY.
10:17:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE OF THE COST OF THE FTE.
10:17:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: EXACTLY.
10:17:50PM I WANT TO PROVIDE THE ANSWER YOU WANT.
10:17:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE A GOOD FIGURE.
10:17:55PM I SAW HEAD OF MOBILITY IS HERE.
10:18:00PM VIK, ARE YOU AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
10:18:03PM VIK, RIGHT NOW, TODAY, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND REALLY
10:18:05PM PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT -- WHAT IS THE UNMET NEED IN PAVING
10:18:13PM AND SIDEWALKS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ON A DOLLAR FIGURE TODAY
10:18:16PM BECAUSE OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND LACK OF KEEPING UP WITH
10:18:19PM OUR CURRENT INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:18:20PM >>VIK BHIDE: PAVING $28 MILLION A YEAR, BY 2025 THAT BECOMES
10:18:25PM $42 MILLION.
10:18:26PM SO THAT'S MOVING EXPONENTIALLY FAST.
10:18:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE STREETS THAT ARE SUBSTANDARD TODAY, IF
10:18:34PM WE WERE GOING TO PAVE THEM ALL TOMORROW MORNING AND I HAD TO
10:18:37PM WRITE A CHECK, WHAT WOULD THE CHECK BE FOR?
10:18:42PM >>VIK BHIDE: 28 MILLION.
10:18:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES THAT INCLUDE SIDEWALKS?
10:18:45PM >>VIK BHIDE: SIDEWALKS DEPEND ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
10:18:47PM OVERALL 1300 MILES OF SIDEWALKS AT A MILLION DOLLARS A MILE.
10:18:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 13 HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS.
10:18:55PM 1.3 BILLION.
10:18:57PM >>VIK BHIDE: 1.3 BILLION.
10:18:59PM FOR THE MOVES PLAN, OUR CRITICAL SIDEWALK GAPS AROUND 400
10:19:05PM MILES, BUT WE ALSO HAD ANOTHER CALCULUS BEFORE THE MOVES
10:19:09PM PLAN, AND THAT WAS ABOUT 80 MILES OF CRITICAL SIDEWALK GAPS,
10:19:13PM WHICH HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN GIS.
10:19:17PM SO THAT'S $80 MILLION IN SIDEWALKS.
10:19:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVEN THAT LOW FIGURE JUST TO GET THERE,
10:19:23PM WE'RE STILL TALKING A LONG TERM EVEN FOR SOME REASON THERE
10:19:29PM WAS A MIRACLE AND GET ONE MILL TONIGHT, WE'RE STILL NOT
10:19:33PM SCRATCHING THE SURFACE OF ACCOMPLISHING EVERYTHING.
10:19:35PM YOU GOT TO START SOMEWHERE.
10:19:36PM >>VIK BHIDE: NOT TO MENTION THE COST OF OPERATIONS AND
10:19:40PM MAINTENANCE.
10:19:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RIGHT.
10:19:41PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT IS WHAT REALLY GIVES YOU BACK OVER THAT
10:19:44PM 30-YEAR PERIOD.
10:19:46PM THE CAPITAL PROJECT WILL GET YOU SET FOR ABOUT A 20-YEAR
10:19:49PM LIFE CYCLE, BUT IT'S OVER 30 YEARS, ITS OPERATIONS AND
10:19:53PM MAINTENANCE.
10:19:54PM O & M ALLOWS YOU TO TRANSFORM AS YOUR TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM
10:19:59PM CHANGES OVER TIME.
10:20:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT FOR PEOPLE LISTENING, I WANT TO SAY
10:20:03PM THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM BETWEEN OUR HOUSING ISSUE, OUR
10:20:07PM INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE, OUR FIRE STATION, SOME OF THESE THINGS
10:20:10PM THAT HAVE NOT BEEN TOUCHED IN 50 YEARS.
10:20:14PM THE EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, THIS IS NOT
10:20:18PM SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN CREATED IN THE LAST THREE OR EVEN --
10:20:21PM WELL, MAYBE CHARLIE MIRANDA IS THE PROBLEM.
10:20:26PM THIS CAN HAS BEEN KICKED DOWN THE STREET FOR AN AWFUL LOT OF
10:20:31PM YEARS, DECADES UPON DECADES AND NOBODY REALLY STEPPED UP TO
10:20:34PM THE PLATE TO SAY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FIX THIS?
10:20:37PM AT LEAST WHEN I'M COMING INTO COUNCIL AND MAYBE I'M NAIVE
10:20:43PM THINKING I CAN DO SOMETHING, THAT I CAN FIX SOMETHING.
10:20:46PM I RAN, I TOLD PEOPLE I WOULD DO THESE THINGS.
10:20:51PM IF ANYBODY CAN FIND ANOTHER WAY OF ACCOMPLISHMENT, I'M ALL
10:20:54PM FOR IT.
10:20:54PM I WANT TO LOWER EVERYBODY'S TAXES.
10:20:56PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:20:57PM TWO LAST LITTLE QUICK THINGS.
10:21:00PM THE iPhone -- THE CHIEF DIDN'T STAND UP ON THAT AND DEFEND
10:21:04PM THE iPhone ISSUE.
10:21:06PM THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I FLAGGED, WHY ARE WE BUYING
10:21:09PM iPhones FOR EVERYBODY UNTIL IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION,
10:21:12PM PART OF OUR COMMUNITY POLICING PLAN SO THAT THE POLICE HAVE
10:21:16PM iPhones THAT THEY CAN SHARE NUMBERS WITH THE COMMUNITY.
10:21:21PM AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT?
10:21:27PM >> JUST TO CLARIFY, THE PHONES THAT WE WOULD BE GETTING
10:21:31PM AREN'T $2,000 EACH.
10:21:32PM THEY ARE TOTALLY FREE IN THE PACKAGE.
10:21:35PM THE ONLY COST IS THE DATA.
10:21:36PM YES, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE, BUT IT'S MORE THAN JUST THAT.
10:21:41PM IT'S TAKING A PICTURE AT A CRIME SCENE AND BEING ABLE TO
10:21:44PM UPLOAD IT AND NOT WAITING FOR FORENSICS TO COME OUT ON A
10:21:48PM MINOR CRIME SCENE.
10:21:49PM THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAN JUST A PHONE.
10:21:52PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, TO YOUR POINT, I DON'T WANT TO KNOW
10:21:54PM WHAT THE OFFICERS ARE DOING ON THEIR DAYS OFF.
10:21:56PM THEY ARE ALREADY TRACKED THROUGH ABL WHEN THEY ARE WORKING.
10:21:59PM WHEN THEY ARE GONE, THEY CAN TURN THAT OFF AND LEAVE.
10:22:02PM WE WANT TO PUT MORE TOOLS AT THEIR RESOURCES.
10:22:04PM WE WANT TO MAKE THEM MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:22:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
10:22:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE LAST THING AND THEN I'LL HAND HIM OFF
10:22:15PM TO YOU.
10:22:15PM I WANT TO MAKE ONE MORE STATEMENT.
10:22:17PM TO MY COLLEAGUES, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO
10:22:20PM LAND.
10:22:20PM AGAIN, MY BIGGEST THING IS WE -- WE ARE RESPONSIBLE TO BE
10:22:26PM STEWARDS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR
10:22:29PM FOLKS THAT CAN'T LOOK OUT FOR THEMSELVES.
10:22:31PM WE HAVE TO BE A GUARDIAN FOR THESE HOUSING PROGRAMS.
10:22:34PM WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR TRANSPORTATION BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT,
10:22:37PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION ARE LIKE THIS.
10:22:39PM THEY GO HAND IN HAND.
10:22:41PM YOU CAN'T SEPARATE IT.
10:22:42PM PUBLIC SAFETY, ONE OF THE BASIC NEEDS OF CITIZENS FROM THEIR
10:22:45PM GOVERNMENT IS ENSURING THEIR SAFETY BOTH IN POLICE AND FIRE,
10:22:49PM AND I THINK IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT OUR ROADS.
10:22:52PM WE ALL KNOW OUR ROADS ARE CRUD AND NEED TO BE IMPROVED.
10:22:56PM WE'VE HEARD FROM SO MANY PEOPLE, HANDICAPPED, DISABILITIES,
10:23:00PM THAT NEED OUR SIDEWALKS TO BE IN BETTER SHAPE.
10:23:02PM KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL THAT ARE NOT WALKING IN SAFE
10:23:05PM CONDITIONS.
10:23:06PM HOW MUCH ARE YOU GOING TO PUT ON THE LIVES OF SOMEBODY WHO
10:23:08PM IS NOT EITHER PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OR A CHILD TO GO TO SCHOOL
10:23:13PM BEFORE WE START IMPROVING THESE THINGS.
10:23:15PM THAT BEING SAID, I WANT EVERYBODY ON THIS DAIS, AS WE GO
10:23:18PM FORWARD ON SETTING THIS THING, IS THAT WE HAVE TIME BETWEEN
10:23:21PM NOW AND THE LAST MEETING.
10:23:23PM WE CAN SET A MILLAGE AND GO DOWN FROM THERE BETWEEN NOW AND
10:23:27PM THEN, BUT WE CAN'T GO UP.
10:23:29PM SO WE CAN START WHERE WE NEED TO START AND KNOW THAT WE CAN
10:23:35PM END WHERE MAYBE YOU WANT TO END WHEN WE MEET AGAIN FOR THIS.
10:23:41PM BUT WITHOUT DETAIL, AND, AGAIN, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE SOME OF
10:23:45PM THE WORK THAT YOU DID IN THAT, BUT I WANT TO HEAR MORE FROM
10:23:49PM THE ADMINISTRATION ON THE DETAILS OF THIS BUDGET, AND I
10:23:52PM THINK -- I THINK WE SHOULD SET A WORKSHOP FOR NEXT TUESDAY.
10:23:57PM BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO TIE OUR HANDS AND COMMIT TO
10:24:02PM SOMETHING THAT WE REGRET.
10:24:04PM AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD GIVE OURSELVES THE FLEXIBILITY TO
10:24:08PM WORK WITHIN THE BUDGET THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA NEEDS.
10:24:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:11PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU HAVE SOMETHING.
10:24:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION FOR CHIEF BERCAW.
10:24:17PM SO THAT'S GOING TO BE -- SO THIS IS NOT A ONE-TIME THING.
10:24:21PM WE'LL HAVE TO PAY THIS THEN EVERY YEAR BECAUSE IT'S DATA.
10:24:25PM >> THE REOCCURRING COST, YES.
10:24:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, THAT'S A CONCERN.
10:24:29PM THAT COST IS GOING TO GO UP.
10:24:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT ON
10:24:35PM THE 12th.
10:24:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M JUST SAYING, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I
10:24:40PM UNDERSTOOD.
10:24:40PM I REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS A ONE-TIME FEE.
10:24:43PM KNOW IT'S RECURRING IS EVEN MORE CONCERNING.
10:24:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:24:45PM I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION -- I KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA,
10:24:48PM YOU HAVE A MOTION.
10:24:52PM I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION REGARDING THE MILLAGE THAT --
10:24:56PM OH, I'M SORRY.
10:25:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:25:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE
10:25:07PM TENTATIVE FY 2024 MILLAGE RATE AT -- SORRY, 6.2076, WHICH I
10:25:15PM BELIEVE IS THE EXACT NUMBER OF THE EXISTING MILLAGE RATE,
10:25:18PM MEANING NO MILLAGE INCREASE, LEAVING IT FLAT AS WE DID LAST
10:25:22PM YEAR.
10:25:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE] 0.475 MORE, RIGHT?
10:25:34PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ONCE YOU ALL TAKE A MOTION ON WHERE YOU
10:25:36PM WANT TO LAND WITH THE MILLAGE RATE, WE NEED TO TAKE A BREAK
10:25:39PM AND RECALCULATE HOW IT EXCEEDS A ROLLED-BACK RATE.
10:25:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO THE MOTION WOULD BE FOR THE 6.2076.
10:25:47PM ONCE WE BREAK, YOU GET THE CORRECT PERCENTAGE, WHICH IS MORE
10:25:50PM THAN THE ROLLED BACK MILLAGE RATE OF 5.8041 MILLS FOR
10:25:55PM PROPERTY TAX FUNDS WHICH ARE USED TO SUPPORT THE GENERAL
10:25:57PM FUND --
10:25:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, WE HAVE TO COME BACK -- MARTIN SHELBY.
10:26:06PM I THINK WHAT MR. MASSEY IS ASKING FOR IS TO MAKE A
10:26:09PM DETERMINATIVE THRESHOLD DECISION AND THEN COME BACK AND
10:26:13PM STAFF WILL HAVE THE PROPER LANGUAGE TO PUT IN THE PROPER
10:26:18PM FORM.
10:26:18PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: GIVE YOU THE LANGUAGE TO READ EXACTLY HOW
10:26:20PM IT SHOULD BE READ FOR THE RECORD.
10:26:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION IS TO ADOPT THE TENTATIVE FY
10:26:23PM '2024 MILLAGE RATE AT 6.2076, WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS LAST
10:26:31PM YEAR, WHICH MEANS NO MILLAGE INCREASE.
10:26:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
10:26:35PM IS THERE A SECOND?
10:26:36PM WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, A
10:26:39PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CHARLIE MIRANDA.
10:26:42PM MR. VIERA, COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED.
10:26:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:45PM A COUPLE OF THINGS, BECAUSE I DID HAVE SOME COMMENTS I
10:26:50PM WANTED TO MAKE WHICH GO DIRECTLY TO THIS.
10:26:52PM FIRST OFF, THIS IS NOT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION, BUT IF I MAY, I
10:26:55PM DO WANT TO, BECAUSE I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO SEE THIS,
10:26:58PM WHICH IS TO FIRST HAVE A MOTION WHERE WE FORMALLY REJECT THE
10:27:02PM 1.0 MILL BEFORE WE DO THAT.
10:27:04PM I KNOW THAT BY OPERATION OF SUPPORTING THAT, YOU DO THAT,
10:27:09PM RIGHT?
10:27:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FIRST AND THEN GO BACK TO THIS.
10:27:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ASK.
10:27:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAKE A MOTION --
10:27:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE
10:27:18PM FLOOR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION?
10:27:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME CANCEL THE MOTION AND I'LL GO
10:27:25PM FROM THE BEGINNING.
10:27:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ARE YOU ALL RIGHT WITH
10:27:27PM THAT?
10:27:27PM WE ARE NOW STARTING WITH A CLEAN SLATE.
10:27:29PM WE NO LONGER HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
10:27:31PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
10:27:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HANDLED ACCORDING TO ROBERT'S RULES OF
10:27:35PM ORDER.
10:27:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT YOU ARE DOING, COUNCIL, YOU ARE AS A
10:27:39PM BODY MAKING A STATEMENT, A COMMITMENT THAT YOU ARE NOT
10:27:42PM ACCEPTING THE MILLAGE INCREASE THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED IN THE
10:27:48PM RECOMMENDED BUDGET.
10:27:48PM AND THEN FROM THERE, ONCE YOU MAKE THAT THRESHOLD DECISION,
10:27:51PM THEN YOU CAN MAKE THAT AS AN ADDITIONAL MOTION.
10:27:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MAKE A MOTION TO FORMALLY REJECT THE 1
10:27:59PM MILL INCREASE IN THE BUDGET.
10:28:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE IS A MOTION BY CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO,
10:28:05PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:28:11PM ANY DISCUSSION?
10:28:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND ROLL CALL.
10:28:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:28:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:28:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:28:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:28:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
10:28:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:28:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:28:27PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSED WITH --
10:28:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WHAT ABOUT ME?
10:28:30PM YES.
10:28:31PM THE MOTION PASSES.
10:28:38PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSES WITH -- [INAUDIBLE]
10:28:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW I MAKE THE MOTION AND I'LL STOP --
10:28:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO, STAND BY.
10:28:50PM DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK NEXT?
10:28:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO TENTATIVELY ADOPT THE PROPOSED
10:28:55PM MILLAGE RATE OF 6.2076 MILLS, WHICH IS WHAT WAS LAST YEAR.
10:29:01PM AND I KNOW WE'LL TAKE A BREAK SO YOU CAN READJUST IT AND
10:29:04PM THEN WE CAN COMPLETE THE MOTION.
10:29:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY CHAIRMAN
10:29:08PM MANISCALCO.
10:29:08PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:29:11PM ANY DISCUSSION?
10:29:12PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:29:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:29:15PM AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:29:18PM A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:29:21PM SINCE WE'RE SPECIFICALLY DEALING WITH THE MILLAGE RATE, THE
10:29:24PM WAY I WAS LOOKING AT THIS THIS EVENING, AND COUNCILWOMAN
10:29:27PM HURTAK BROUGHT UP A LOT OF GOOD POTENTIAL BUDGET CUTS WE
10:29:30PM COULD LOOK AT TO SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH I REALLY
10:29:33PM DO BELIEVE, JUST THAT 2% COLA I WAS TALKING ABOUT CAN
10:29:36PM PROBABLY GIVE US 2, 3 HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THE BUDGET
10:29:40PM THAT WE CAN GIVE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I STILL BELIEVE
10:29:42PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN BROUGHT THIS UP, WE NEED A SMALL
10:29:45PM DEDICATED SOURCE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:29:48PM I SEE OUR FIREFIGHTERS THERE.
10:29:53PM I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS
10:29:55PM WELL.
10:29:57PM THOSE FOLKS WHO HAVE COME HERE TONIGHT TO LOBBY US ON THIS
10:30:00PM ON A DEDICATED SOURCE COME HERE FOR A REASON BECAUSE THEY
10:30:04PM NEED HELP ON THE JOB WITH THE THINGS THAT THEY DO.
10:30:08PM THERE ARE A LOT OF ARGUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AGAINST A
10:30:10PM VERY SMALL, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT A .25, AND WE CAN LOOK AT
10:30:15PM BUDGET CUTS FOR OTHER PRIORITIES AND TALK ABOUT SOMETHING
10:30:17PM VERY, VERY SMALL.
10:30:18PM I'M KEEPING MY WORD TO WHAT I TOLD PEOPLE, WHAT I TOLD THOSE
10:30:22PM FOLKS IN THE BACK AND TO WHAT I TOLD MY CONSTITUENTS,
10:30:25PM SEVERAL HUNDRED OF WHOM WROTE ME WHERE I WAS --
10:30:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA, THERE IS A MOTION AND
10:30:30PM SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
10:30:31PM ARE YOU LOOKING TO AMEND THE MOTION?
10:30:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, I WILL.
10:30:34PM I'M GIVING MY RATIONALE, IN SUPPORT.
10:30:38PM WE TALKED ABOUT PAST SPENDING THAT, OH, BOY, WE'VE BEEN
10:30:42PM SPENDING A LOT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA, THAT'S TRUE, BUT THOSE
10:30:44PM FOLKS IN THE BACK SHOULDN'T BEAR THE BURDEN OF ANY MISTAKES
10:30:50PM WE MADE.
10:30:50PM WE TALK ABOUT BUDGET CUTS NECESSARY TO FUND PUBLIC SAFETY, I
10:30:53PM SUPPORT THAT, OBVIOUSLY, AND I THINK WE ALL DO.
10:30:56PM WE NEED A DEDICATED SOURCE.
10:30:58PM WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEES.
10:31:00PM I HAD MY AIDE PRINT UP THE STAFF REPORT ON PUBLIC SAFETY
10:31:03PM IMPACT FEES, WHICH ARE GREAT.
10:31:05PM AND I WANT TO SUPPORT THEM 110%, BUT THERE ARE THINGS I WANT
10:31:08PM TO BRING UP ABOUT THEM.
10:31:10PM THEY ENTAIL ENGAGING A CONSULTANT, MANY THINGS, INCLUDING IT
10:31:14PM SAYS, QUOTE, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IMPACT FEES CANNOT BE
10:31:17PM USED TO HIRE ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL, REPAIR EXISTING PUBLIC
10:31:19PM SERVICE FACILITIES OR EQUIPMENT OR PAY FOR EXISTING
10:31:22PM DEFICIENCIES IN FACILITIES AND EQUIPMENT, THEY MUST BE USED
10:31:25PM IN A MANNER THAT WILL BENEFIT THE NEW USERS OR THE NEW
10:31:28PM DEVELOPMENT.
10:31:28PM IT'S VERY NARROWLY TAILORED.
10:31:31PM I WANT THAT.
10:31:32PM I SUPPORT THAT, BUT IT'S A LONG PROCESS TO GET THERE.
10:31:35PM I'M TALKING ABOUT A DEDICATED SOURCE WHICH I THINK PEOPLE
10:31:38PM WOULD SUPPORT.
10:31:39PM MR. SHELBY, WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS.
10:31:42PM CITY COUNCIL CAN DEDICATE MONEY FROM A MILLAGE TO A SPECIFIC
10:31:45PM PURPOSE, A SPECIFIC PURPOSE LIKE FIRE STATIONS.
10:31:48PM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN FOUND A
10:31:50PM NEED FOR 28.
10:31:51PM WE DON'T HAVE ONE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA PROPOSED IN THIS
10:31:54PM BUDGET.
10:31:54PM IT WILL GET WORSE.
10:31:56PM AGAIN, I'M TRUE TO MY WORD.
10:32:01PM THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING HERE TONIGHT IS TRYING TO STAND WITH
10:32:03PM OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
10:32:06PM WE NEED A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:32:09PM THESE THINGS ARE NOT GOING TO GET BETTER ON THEIR OWN.
10:32:12PM WE NEED TO AT LEAST HAVE IT THERE.
10:32:14PM WHY?
10:32:15PM MAYBE IN HEARING NUMBER TWO, IF WE CAN FIND WE ACHIEVE THIS
10:32:18PM THROUGH OTHER REVENUE SOURCES, THEN WE GET RID OF IT.
10:32:22PM WHY PRECLUDE OURSELVES OF THAT CHOICE TWO WEEKS FROM NOW OF
10:32:27PM PUBLIC SAFETY?
10:32:27PM MY POSITION.
10:32:28PM I WILL MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
10:32:30PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT WILL GO.
10:32:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:32:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:32:42PM FIRST OF ALL, HE DIDN'T MAKE THE MOTION YET.
10:32:44PM YOU KNOW, I DON'T DISAGREE THAT WE NEED A DEDICATED FUNDING
10:32:49PM SOURCE.
10:32:49PM RIGHT NOW I WOULD SUPPORT A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE FOR
10:32:52PM FIRE STATIONS OR FOR FIRE JUST BECAUSE THE NEED IS THERE FOR
10:32:56PM FIRE STATIONS, LIKE POLICE STATIONS, WE'VE GOTTEN, BUT FIRE
10:33:00PM STATIONS I SUPPORT THAT.
10:33:02PM BUT I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT A DEDICATED FUNDING STREAM FOR
10:33:05PM HOUSING.
10:33:05PM AND HERE'S MY THING, WHY DO WE NEED A NEW MILL TO DO THAT?
10:33:09PM WHY CAN'T WE DEDICATE PART OF THE MILL WE ALREADY HAVE?
10:33:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: IS THAT A QUESTION FOR ME TO RESPOND TO?
10:33:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
10:33:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO WE CAN DO THAT, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT
10:33:20PM ADDITIONAL SPENDING BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES TO FIRE STATIONS,
10:33:23PM WE NEED MORE MONEY.
10:33:24PM WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING, WE NEED MORE MONEY.
10:33:26PM THE WAY I WAS LOOKING AT IT IS I THINK PEOPLE WOULD SUPPORT
10:33:29PM MORE MONEY FOR FIRE STATIONS FROM HIGHER REVENUE.
10:33:33PM WE CAN LOOK AT HOUSING THROUGH BUDGET CUTS, BUT WE SHOULD
10:33:36PM GIVE OURSELVES, LIKE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN SAID, WE MAY BE
10:33:38PM OFF IN WHERE WE LAND BECAUSE I'M VERY CONSERVATIVE ON THE
10:33:42PM HIGHER MILL AGAIN.
10:33:44PM I WANT TO SEE A 70% CUT FROM WHAT THE MAYOR PROPOSED.
10:33:47PM BUT WE SHOULD GIVE OURSELVES A SAFETY NET THERE.
10:33:50PM AGAIN, I THINK WITH HIGHER REVENUE SOURCES WE SHOULD BE
10:33:53PM LOOKING AT IT FOR FIRE STATIONS AND MAKING ALLOTMENTS FOR
10:33:57PM PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:33:57PM WHAT GOOD IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY PLAN WE'VE BEEN BEGGING FOR
10:34:00PM FOR YEARS IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO FUND PART OF IT.
10:34:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT JUST TO SAY I
10:34:11PM BELIEVE WE CAN DO A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE WITHIN THE
10:34:15PM MILL.
10:34:16PM I WOULD NOT SUPPORT AN INCREASE.
10:34:17PM I WOULD SUPPORT A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE, BUT I BELIEVE WE
10:34:20PM CAN DO IT WITH THE MILL WE ALREADY HAVE BECAUSE WE HAVE A
10:34:23PM LOT OF SPACE TO FIND CUTS.
10:34:25PM I TRULY BELIEVE THAT.
10:34:29PM AND THIS IS THE THING.
10:34:32PM WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION BELIEVES IS A PRIORITY GETS DONE.
10:34:35PM WE GOT $120 MILLION HANNA STREET PROJECT.
10:34:39PM THEY FOUND THE MONEY FOR THAT.
10:34:40PM SO THE MONEY IS HERE.
10:34:42PM WE JUST NEED TO FIND IT.
10:34:44PM AND WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT I KNOW WE CAN DO WITH HOUSING,
10:34:48PM AND WE CAN DO THE EXACT SAME THING WITH FIRE STATIONS, IS WE
10:34:51PM GET ENOUGH MONEY SO THAT WE CAN BOND TO PAY FOR THOSE
10:34:55PM THINGS.
10:34:56PM AND I DON'T SUPPORT BONDING MOST THINGS, BUT WHEN WE'RE
10:35:01PM TALKING ABOUT STRUCTURES, I DO BECAUSE THOSE STRUCTURES ARE
10:35:04PM GOING TO LAST FOR A LONG TIME.
10:35:05PM BONDING CARS MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.
10:35:08PM BUT BONDING FIRE STATIONS, BONDING MONEY FOR HOUSING,
10:35:14PM BECAUSE I WANT THOSE TWO HOTELS THAT ARE GOING TO HELP 327
10:35:19PM FAMILIES GET OFF THE STREET IMMEDIATELY.
10:35:21PM I BELIEVE BONDING CAN HELP BOTH OF THOSE THINGS.
10:35:26PM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HELPS EVEN MORE?
10:35:29PM WHEN YOU HAVE A DEDICATED REVENUE STREAM BECAUSE WHEN YOU GO
10:35:31PM TO BOND THEY'LL GIVE YOU A BETTER RATE.
10:35:33PM I 100% SUPPORT YOU, BUT I BELIEVE WE CAN DO IT WITHIN THE
10:35:38PM 6.2 WE ALREADY HAVE.
10:35:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:35:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I AGREE WITH BOTH OF MY COLLEAGUES,
10:35:45PM EXCEPT THAT I THINK WE CAN DO THE FUNDING FOR PUBLIC SAFETY
10:35:49PM AND HOUSING, THE OTHER THINGS WITHIN THE MILLS THAT WE HAVE
10:35:51PM ALREADY.
10:35:52PM TO THE POINT ABOUT BONDING, PART OF THE SHELL GAME IS THAT
10:35:56PM WE NEVER KNOW THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BOND SOMETHING.
10:35:59PM I MEAN, WE HAVE ALL THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT $45 MILLION AND
10:36:03PM THEY GO OUT AND BOND $170 MILLION, OR WHATEVER IT WAS, AND
10:36:07PM WE FIND OUT ABOUT IT AFTER THE FACT.
10:36:09PM WE FIND OUT THAT A PARK IS $23 MILLION OVER BUDGET AND THEY
10:36:14PM SAY, OH, WE'RE GOING TO BOND IT, BUT THEN WE FIND OUT THEY
10:36:18PM ALREADY TOLD THE PUBLIC THAT THEY ARE GOING TO GET THE
10:36:20PM MONEY, BUT THEY NEVER ASKED CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
10:36:23PM THE POINT IS THAT WE'VE GOT TO GET CONTROL OF THE BONDING,
10:36:27PM WE'VE GOT TO GET CONTROL OF THE BONDING BECAUSE THE
10:36:39PM ADMINISTRATION LIKES TO CHOOSE WHAT THEY WANT TO SPEND MONEY
10:36:44PM ON WITHOUT ASKING FOR OUR PERMISSION WHICH IS REQUIRED BY
10:36:46PM THE CHARTER.
10:36:47PM IT'S INTERESTING WHEN WE ASK THEM SIMPLE THINGS LIKE WHO HAS
10:36:49PM THE POWER TO NAME BUILDINGS, SOMEHOW IT COMES OUT THAT THE
10:36:53PM MAYOR HAS IT, AND THEN WE TURN AROUND AND SHOW THAT THE
10:36:56PM MAYOR DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER UNLESS WE ALLOW HER TO HAVE IT.
10:36:59PM BUT ON THINGS LIKE WHO HAS THE POWER TO EDIT THE BUDGET,
10:37:03PM THEY SAY, OH, NO, THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE POWER.
10:37:06PM FIRST TIME IN FOUR YEARS, FOUR AND A HALF YEARS THAT THE
10:37:08PM CITY ATTORNEY HAS SAID AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE HAS SAID, NO,
10:37:08PM NO, YOU GUYS HAVE THAT POWER.
10:37:10PM THAT'S YOUR POWER, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE THROWING IT BACK ON US.
10:37:13PM IF WE GET CONTROL OF BONDING, WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN IS THAT THE
10:37:16PM CITY STAFF SHOULD COME TO US AND SAY WE HAVE A HUNDRED
10:37:20PM MILLION DOLLARS IN BONDING CAPACITY, WHAT DO YOU THINK THE
10:37:23PM PRIORITIES ARE?
10:37:23PM WHERE SHOULD WE SPEND THE MONEY?
10:37:25PM ALMOST GUARANTEE THAT HANNA AVENUE GONE FROM 400,000 TO 108
10:37:29PM MILLION, 6 MILLION TO 108 MILLION, 122 MILLION PLUS
10:37:32PM INTEREST, PLUS O AND NUMBER IS 220.
10:37:36PM IF YOU START WITH THE 122, I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE IN A YEAR
10:37:39PM THEY'LL COME BACK AND SAY, OH, WE HAD TO BOND ANOTHER 18
10:37:43PM MILLION, NOW IT'S 140 MILLION BECAUSE WE DECIDED TO ADD
10:37:47PM THIS.
10:37:48PM WE MADE THE DECISION A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND YOU GUYS MADE
10:37:51PM AN INTERIM DECISION.
10:37:52PM IT IS TRUE CITY COUNCIL ENDS UP APPROVING THINGS BUT DON'T
10:37:54PM LABEL IT.
10:37:55PM LIKE THE $5.5 MILLION ALLOCATED FOR HOUSING LAST YEAR, WE
10:37:58PM ELECTED TO PUT IT THERE, AND THEN IT SHOVED AROUND, AND
10:38:02PM APPARENTLY WE APPROVED LEAVING IT IN THE SOLID WASTE
10:38:05PM DEPARTMENT, BUT IT'S HIDDEN IN SOMETHING ELSE.
10:38:09PM 8 POINT TYPE HIDDEN ON THINGS.
10:38:12PM WE NEED TO TAKE BETTER CONTROL OF THE BUDGET AND TAKE BETTER
10:38:15PM CONTROL OF WHAT IS GIVEN TO US AND WE NEED TO BE SKEPTICAL
10:38:18PM AND PRAY AND HOPE AND ASK FOR A COLLABORATIVE ENVIRONMENT.
10:38:21PM I WANT TO ASK, YOU TALK ABOUT DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE FOR
10:38:28PM FIRE OR PUBLIC SAFETY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT CITY
10:38:30PM COUNCILS CANNOT COMMIT AD VALOREM TAXES PAST FOUR OR FIVE
10:38:34PM YEARS, ISN'T THAT CORRECT?
10:38:36PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU HAVE TO APPROVE THE AD VALOREM TAXES.
10:38:38PM YOU CANNOT PLEDGE YOUR AD VALOREM TAXING POWER WITHOUT A
10:38:42PM REFERENDUM OF THE VOTERS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:38:43PM SO THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN --
10:38:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CANNOT TELL THE FIRE RESCUE PEOPLE TODAY
10:38:49PM WE'LL TAKE A QUARTER MILL AND DEDICATE IT TO YOU FOR THE
10:38:51PM NEXT 20 YEARS AND THE CITY CAN BOND THAT OUT.
10:38:54PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: FROM AD VALOREM TAXING POWER, NO, YOU
10:38:56PM CANNOT.
10:38:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCILMAN VIERA, I APPRECIATE YOUR
10:39:00PM LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS, AND JUST
10:39:03PM LIKE YOU'RE FRUSTRATED ON THAT, I'M FRUSTRATED THAT ECONOMIC
10:39:05PM DEVELOPMENT HAS GONE NOWHERE.
10:39:09PM NOT TO THE STAFF'S FAULT, BUT BECAUSE WE OUTSOURCED IT TO
10:39:13PM THE WRONG PEOPLE.
10:39:14PM THE ISSUE ON FIRE RESCUE IN PARTICULAR IS WE NEED A SPECIFIC
10:39:18PM FUNDING SOURCE.
10:39:19PM IF IMPACT FEE CAN FUND PART OF IT BUT NOT ALL OF IT AND IF
10:39:23PM WE CAN FIND SOME OTHER FEE, REMEMBER, BECAUSE OF COUNCIL
10:39:26PM MEMBER HURTAK AND MS. POYNOR, WE HAVE 600 PAGES OF FEES MOST
10:39:31PM OF WHICH HAVEN'T BEEN RAISED IN 20 OR 30 YEARS.
10:39:34PM EVEN I THINK FORMER MAYOR FREEDMAN SAID THAT.
10:39:36PM WE CAN FIND THINGS IN THERE THAT ARE USER FEES THAT CAN BE
10:39:40PM ADAPTED SLIGHTLY THAT CAN ADD A LOT MORE THAN $46 MILLION,
10:39:44PM AND WE CAN SET IN, IF WE DID IT A DEDICATED FUND LIKE AN
10:39:50PM IMPACT FEE THAT IS A DEDICATED FUND, CORRECT?
10:39:53PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: CORRECT.
10:39:53PM AND MR. PERRY DID WANT ME TO MENTION TO YOU THAT WE DO
10:39:58PM OFTENTIMES DO BOND ON THE BASIS OF A PROMISE TO COVENANT AND
10:40:02PM APPROPRIATE AD VALOREM TAXES, BUT THAT IS NOT A PLEDGE.
10:40:05PM SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
10:40:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN INQUIRE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I
10:40:13PM COULD DO OFF-LINE, BUT WITH REGARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL
10:40:17PM MAKING A COMMITMENT, WHICH IS A STATEMENT THAT'S RECOGNIZED
10:40:21PM BY THE GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING STANDINGS BOARD, GASB, CAN
10:40:27PM THE COUNCIL BY MOTION AND VOTE THEN DETERMINE A SOURCE OF AD
10:40:31PM VALOREM MONIES, LET'S SAY $10 MILLION OR A PERCENTAGE AS A
10:40:36PM MILL FOR X FOR A TERM OF LET'S SAY ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS OR
10:40:40PM THREE YEARS, GASB RECOGNIZES IF CITY COUNCIL WOULD MAKE A
10:40:43PM COMMITMENT FOR THAT.
10:40:44PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GASB STANDARDS WOULD
10:40:47PM BE.
10:40:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT PAST FOUR OR
10:40:52PM FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE NO POWER, WE HAVE NO POWER TO SET THE AD
10:40:56PM VALOREM TAXES FOR WHAT A FUTURE COUNCIL WOULD DO.
10:40:59PM IF WE SET UP A REAL DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE, WHICH COULD BE
10:41:02PM AN IMPACT FEE OR SOMETHING, WE COULD ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY
10:41:05PM RAISE MORE MONEY THAN WE THINK AND SOLVE THE PROBLEMS
10:41:08PM FASTER.
10:41:09PM WE HAVE DESPERATE NEEDS IN FIRE RESCUE.
10:41:10PM WE KNOW THAT, AND IF WE SET UP A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE,
10:41:15PM JUST LIKE WE DO FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS, THEN THAT CAN FUND
10:41:18PM IT AND WE CAN LOOK AT MAYBE SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
10:41:20PM OTHER THINGS.
10:41:21PM I WOULD RATHER BASE IT ON USER FEES AND NEEDS, GREAT EXAMPLE
10:41:25PM IS $2 MILLION, CLOSE TO $2 MILLION FOR CREDIT CARD FEES.
10:41:28PM THERE'S NO GOVERNMENT I KNOW THAT DOESN'T CHARGE CREDIT CARD
10:41:31PM FEES.
10:41:32PM IF WE CAN GET THAT BACK, THAT'S $2 MILLION FOUND RIGHT
10:41:34PM THERE.
10:41:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO AND THEN COUNCILMAN
10:41:40PM MIRANDA AND THEN COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:41:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I'M SORRY, IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, I
10:41:48PM WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, BUT ENTIRELY UP TO COUNCIL.
10:41:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU WAIT UNTIL WE ARE DONE WITH PUBLIC
10:41:53PM COMMENT OR SOMETHING GERMANE TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:41:57PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT IS GERMANE.
10:41:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GO AHEAD.
10:42:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN, COUNCIL WILL MAKE AND APPROVE
10:42:02PM WHATEVER MOTION COUNCIL WILL MAKE.
10:42:05PM TO AN EXTENT I'M REITERATING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU
10:42:08PM SAID, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
10:42:11PM I HEAR PHRASING AND WORDS HERE THAT ARE TRIGGERS FOR ME, THE
10:42:15PM FINANCIAL PROFESSIONAL, IF WE CAN FIND THE CUTS, POTENTIAL
10:42:20PM CUTS.
10:42:21PM I BELIEVE THERE ARE CUTS.
10:42:23PM I'VE HEARD A LOT OF NUMBERS, SOME OF THEM VERY LARGE
10:42:26PM NUMBERS, OF COURSE, AS I'VE ALREADY SAID, WE WON'T ATTEST TO
10:42:29PM THEM BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM.
10:42:33PM I DON'T WANT TO SAY TAKING FOR GRANTED, BUT AS YOU ARE
10:42:37PM OPTIMISTICALLY PRESUMING THAT MANY OF THE CUTS, ESPECIALLY
10:42:40PM THE LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE GOING TO COME TO FRUITION, I
10:42:44PM SIMPLY, AS YOU SAID, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, I WANT TO REMIND
10:42:47PM YOU THAT WHATEVER MILLAGE YOU SET IS THE MAXIMUM MILLAGE.
10:42:52PM AS LONG AS COUNCIL IS ESTABLISHING YOUR RESTRICTIONS WITH
10:42:55PM YOUR EYES WIDE OPEN, THAT'S FINE.
10:42:57PM I FEEL LIKE I'VE DONE MY JOB, BUT I WOULD ASK WHAT IF YOU'RE
10:43:01PM WRONG ABOUT THESE THINGS, THEN YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED A CAP
10:43:05PM THAT YOU CANNOT TURN BACK FROM.
10:43:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:43:10PM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
10:43:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS GOING TO RESPOND TO COUNCILMAN
10:43:14PM VIERA'S REGARDING THE .25 I THINK OF THE MILLAGE FOR PUBLIC
10:43:21PM SAFETY.
10:43:21PM I DON'T SUPPORT ANY MILLAGE INCREASE.
10:43:24PM THE THING IS WE HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEES THAT MAY BE
10:43:28PM PROPOSED HERE.
10:43:29PM I WOULD SUPPORT SOMETHING LIKE THAT EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE
10:43:31PM RESTRICTIVE.
10:43:32PM I TALKED ABOUT CRA MONEY.
10:43:33PM I MADE THAT ONE MOTION FOR THE DOWNTOWN CRA, BUT THERE IS
10:43:36PM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA.
10:43:37PM THERE ARE OTHER CRAs THAT WE CAN USE, BE CREATIVE WITH SO
10:43:42PM WE CAN FREE UP THE MONEY AND APPLY IT TO.
10:43:45PM THE SPECIFIC MOTION MADE IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA WAS TO GET THAT
10:43:49PM MONEY FREED UP IN THE GENERAL FUND IF IT ALL WORKS OUT, TO
10:43:52PM GO TO HOUSING, TO GO TO A FIRE STATION IN DOWNTOWN.
10:43:56PM I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
10:43:57PM THAT'S ANOTHER AREA.
10:43:58PM THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY THERE.
10:44:00PM I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO RAISE THE MILLAGE TO DEDICATE IT TO
10:44:04PM PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:44:04PM IT'S NOT VOTING AGAINST THE FIRE, IT'S TRYING TO BE CREATIVE
10:44:09PM WITHOUT RAISING PEOPLE'S TAXES.
10:44:11PM WE CAN LOOK AT OTHER AREAS, SPECIFICALLY THE CRA,
10:44:14PM SPECIFICALLY PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEES WHERE WE CAN GET
10:44:16PM THERE AND IN ANTICIPATION OF THE CIT BEING RENEWED IN '26
10:44:20PM AND CONTINUING ON, WHEN THE CIT WAS FIRST BROUGHT ON BOARD
10:44:25PM IN THE '90s, I THINK IT BUILT THE POLICE SUBSTATIONS.
10:44:29PM IT WENT TO A LOT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:44:31PM LOOKING FORWARD, THAT CIT NEEDS TO GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY AND
10:44:34PM THE NEEDS WE HAVE IF THAT CIT IS APPROVED.
10:44:37PM I STAND BY MY MOTION OF NOT RAISING THE MILLAGE AT ALL.
10:44:42PM I UNDERSTAND COUNCILMAN VIERA, BUT I WANT TO BE CREATIVE IN
10:44:44PM DEDICATING MONEY TO HOUSING AND PUBLIC SAFETY WITHOUT HAVING
10:44:49PM TO IMPACT THE TAXPAYER WITH THE HIGHER FEE.
10:44:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:44:56PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:44:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:44:58PM IT IS THE MAYOR'S BUDGET UNTIL THEY HAND IT OVER TO THE
10:45:01PM COUNCIL LIKE IT IS TONIGHT.
10:45:03PM IT'S NO LONGER THE MAYOR'S BUDGET.
10:45:04PM I HEARD THAT IT IS THE MAYOR'S BUDGET.
10:45:06PM NO, IT IS THE COUNCIL'S BUDGET AS OF TONIGHT.
10:45:09PM SO WHATEVER HAPPENS HERE, IT IS NOT THE MAYOR'S PROBLEM.
10:45:13PM IT IS OUR PROBLEM, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, UNLESS SHE DOESN'T
10:45:18PM WANT TO SIGN IT OR WHATEVER, THEN YOU NEED FIVE VOTES TO
10:45:22PM OVERRIDE I GUESS.
10:45:23PM THESE ARE THE THINGS WE HAVE TO WORK WITH.
10:45:25PM THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
10:45:27PM IT'S PART OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE HAD IN PLACE FOR A LONG,
10:45:30PM LONG TIME.
10:45:31PM WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS, YOU SAID EARLIER YOU
10:45:35PM CANNOT PUT ANYTHING ON THE MONIES THAT WE COLLECT AD VALOREM
10:45:40PM TO A SPECIFIC ITEM, AM I CORRECT?
10:45:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN CLARIFY, COUNCIL CAN IDENTIFY A
10:45:47PM COMPONENT OF THE MILLAGE TO SPEND ON FILL IN THE BLANK.
10:45:51PM ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS HOW LONG CAN COUNCIL DO THAT?
10:45:53PM BY LAW, COUNCIL ADOPTS A BUDGET FOR ONE YEAR.
10:45:57PM ANY SUBSEQUENT COUNCIL CAN CHANGE THAT.
10:46:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN DO IT, BUT SEQUENTIAL FOR EVERY
10:46:04PM YEAR, EVERY YEAR VOTE.
10:46:05PM ALL RIGHT.
10:46:06PM THAT TAKES CARE OF THAT.
10:46:07PM AND I HAVE SOMETHING PREPARED BUT I'LL HOLD ON TO LATER
10:46:10PM WHICH IS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEES AND IMPACT FEES,
10:46:14PM ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL OR PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES.
10:46:16PM BUT THAT COMES WHEN WE START MAKING DIFFERENT MOTIONS.
10:46:21PM I JUST FEEL THAT WE'RE HEADING THERE.
10:46:24PM I JUST DON'T -- PERSONALLY, SOME OF THE WORDS THAT WERE USED
10:46:30PM I DON'T AGREE WITH, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:46:32PM IT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
10:46:34PM I'M NOT HERE TO GET UPSET WITH NO ONE.
10:46:36PM I'M HERE TO MAKE SOMETHING THAT IS COMPARABLE TO THE BALANCE
10:46:40PM OF THE CITY GOING FORWARD WITHOUT RAISING THE MILLAGE.
10:46:43PM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
10:46:45PM AGAIN, LIKE COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, I WANT TO THANK
10:46:48PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR THE WORK SHE'S DONE VERY DILIGENTLY,
10:46:52PM MOMENT'S NOTICE REALLY.
10:46:53PM I'M NOT A COMPUTER GUY.
10:46:55PM I'M AT A DISADVANTAGE OR MAYBE NOT BEING ONE I'M AT AN
10:46:59PM ADVANTAGE.
10:47:00PM GOT TO LOOK AT IT BOTH WAYS.
10:47:02PM THESE ARE THE THINGS I LOOK AT.
10:47:04PM IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NEEDED.
10:47:07PM I THINK THE WHOLE CITY IS HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
10:47:10PM CERTAINLY THE TAXPAYERS, ALL THE RESIDENTS, NO MATTER WHO
10:47:13PM YOU ARE, WHERE YOU COME FROM, IT'S BEEN A GREAT PLACE TO
10:47:16PM LIVE.
10:47:16PM BEEN A GREAT PLACE TO RAISE YOUR FAMILY.
10:47:19PM YOU COMPARE THIS CITY WITH ANY OTHER CITY OF THIS POPULATION
10:47:22PM AND JUST COMPARE, LOOK AT CLEVELAND.
10:47:26PM AT ONE TIME 700,000 PEOPLE.
10:47:30PM THEY ARE UNDER 400,000.
10:47:31PM THEY ALSO HAVE 22 COUNCIL MEMBERS THE LAST TIME I LOOKED.
10:47:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU IMAGINE?
10:47:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S UNBELIEVABLE WHAT I REMEMBER OF IT.
10:47:39PM PEOPLE COME HERE, NOT BECAUSE WE'RE HERE.
10:47:45PM WE ONLY HAVE TWO SEASONS HERE.
10:47:47PM SUMMER AND CHRISTMAS.
10:47:48PM SO THAT'S WHY THEY COME.
10:47:51PM THEY WANT TO ENJOY LIFE, SEE SOMETHING, YEAH, ONCE IN A
10:47:54PM WHILE YOU HAVE A HURRICANE.
10:47:56PM MIAMI HAD SEVEN.
10:47:57PM TAMPA HAS NONE.
10:47:58PM THE ODDS ARE AGAINST US.
10:48:00PM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
10:48:02PM THANK YOU.
10:48:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:48:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:48:05PM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:48:06PM JUST FOR THE SAKE OF HOW MY BRAIN WORKS, I REALLY NEED
10:48:11PM ADMINISTRATOR TRAVIS AND ADMINISTRATOR WYNN TO COME TO THE
10:48:14PM PODIUM AS I ADDRESS THIS ISSUE THAT I HAVE.
10:48:19PM I DON'T TRUST THE MILLAGE STAYING THE SAME AND HOUSING
10:48:23PM GETTING A BENEFIT, BUT BEFORE I EVEN GET INTO THAT, THE
10:48:27PM FEES.
10:48:28PM I ACTUALLY, THE CREDIT CARD FEES WHICH WILL BE NEW FOR OUR
10:48:31PM CITY, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT FOR SOME SERVICES, ESPECIALLY
10:48:35PM IN PARK AND RECREATION, INCREASING FEES IS -- THAT IS -- I
10:48:43PM THINK THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM WHEN IT COMES TO EQUITY.
10:48:45PM BECAUSE WHAT WE WANT IN PARKS AND REC IS FOR ALL FAMILIES,
10:48:49PM REGARDLESS OF INCOME LEVELS TO PARTICIPATE IN PARKS AND REC.
10:48:52PM IF WE INCREASE THOSE FEES, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT $200,000
10:48:56PM SALARIES, THAT'S NOT IT.
10:48:58PM A MOM WHO HAS TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL $14 AND HAS FIVE KIDS IN
10:49:03PM HER HOUSE TO GO TO PARKS AND REC, THAT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.
10:49:06PM THAT'S WHERE THE STRUGGLE IS.
10:49:07PM I WANT YOU TO ADDRESS THAT.
10:49:09PM BUT FOR ONCE AND FOR ALL, FOR PUBLIC SAKE AND MY SAKE IN
10:49:13PM FIGHTING THIS BATTLE ABOUT THE INFORMATION ABOUT FAIR OAKS
10:49:21PM BEING OVER BUDGET, AS I SAID BEFORE, IT WAS A THREE ACRE
10:49:26PM PROJECT THAT EXPANDED TO TEN ACRES, AND IT WAS TWO COMBINED
10:49:30PM PARKS, AL BARNES AND FAIR OAKS BECAUSE THEY GOT THE SENIOR
10:49:34PM CENTER AND THE ACTUAL RECREATION CENTER FOR THE KIDS.
10:49:37PM SO IT WAS NOT OVER BUDGET BY $21 MILLION.
10:49:40PM ACTUALLY TWO PROJECTS IN ONE.
10:49:41PM I REALLY WANT YOU TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT HAS ALREADY COME
10:49:44PM TO THIS DAIS AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL SO THAT WE CAN
10:49:48PM JUST GET RID OF THIS THING ABOUT FAIR OAKS BEING OVER BUDGET
10:49:52PM AND MISTAKE OR OUT OF PLACE.
10:49:56PM EVEN THE NEWSPAPER TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE EDITORIAL AND THEY
10:49:58PM WERE WRONG, AND IT WAS DISINGENUOUS, PLEASE, MS. WYNN,
10:50:03PM ADDRESS THAT AND MS. TRAVIS, I WILL CIRCLE TO YOU.
10:50:05PM >> OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY
10:50:07PM AFFAIRS.
10:50:09PM I HAVE A RASPY VOICE BECAUSE THIS IS MY BEDTIME.
10:50:13PM I WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
10:50:19PM FIRST THING, IN TERMS OF THE FAMILIES, YES, THAT WILL BE A
10:50:22PM HARDSHIP.
10:50:23PM WE ALREADY SCHOLARSHIP FAMILIES WHO CANNOT AFFORD THE $40 A
10:50:28PM YEAR, THE CURRENT RATE WE CHARGE FOR OUR REC SERVICES.
10:50:33PM SO, YES.
10:50:35PM IN TERMS OF FAIR OAKS OR THE EAST TAMPA REC CENTER, WHEN WE
10:50:40PM CAME BEFORE COUNCIL TO PROPOSE THE PROJECT, YOU'RE CORRECT
10:50:46PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, IT WAS A THREE ACRE PROJECT.
10:50:50PM ONCE WE STARTED PURCHASING THE SURROUNDING LAND, WE
10:50:53PM PURCHASED THE PENNY SAVER, WE PURCHASED ADJACENT PROPERTY,
10:50:59PM THAT PROJECT SCOPE INCREASED FROM THREE ACRES TO A LITTLE
10:51:05PM BIT OVER TEN ACRES.
10:51:06PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN WE FIRST CAME AND SAID, OKAY, OR
10:51:10PM WHEN WE HEARD THE OUTCRY FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE PROJECT,
10:51:13PM WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS WAS BEFORE EVERYTHING THAT
10:51:18PM WE SEE IN TERMS OF THE PANDEMIC.
10:51:21PM IT INITIALLY STARTED IN 2019.
10:51:25PM SINCE THE PANDEMIC, WE ALSO INCREASED IN CONSTRUCTION AND
10:51:29PM MATERIAL OF COSTS.
10:51:33PM WE SAW AN INCREASE IN OR THE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND ALL OF
10:51:39PM THAT AS WELL AS THE SHORTAGE IN WORKERS, ALL OF WHICH
10:51:43PM ATTRIBUTED TO AN INCREASE IN CONSTRUCTION COSTS NATIONALLY.
10:51:48PM SO IT WASN'T JUST WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, IT WAS CLEAR
10:51:52PM ACROSS THE BOARD.
10:51:53PM IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION
10:51:59PM ORGANIZATIONS, YOU'LL SEE THAT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE
10:52:04PM PANDEMIC UNTIL NOW, CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE INCREASED UP TO
10:52:09PM 35 TO 40 PERCENT.
10:52:10PM THIS IS NATIONALLY.
10:52:12PM SO I HOPE THAT ADDRESSES YOUR QUESTIONS FOR ME.
10:52:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT WAS TWO PROJECTS COMBINED, RIGHT?
10:52:20PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, MA'AM.
10:52:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ONE PARK AT 17 MILLION AND TAKING FROM AL
10:52:24PM BARNES, THE SENIOR CENTER BECAUSE THERE WAS NO UNDERGROUND
10:52:27PM INFRASTRUCTURE, I THINK THAT'S WHAT CHIEF BENNETT TOLD ME.
10:52:30PM IT WAS MORE AFFORDABLE TO PUT THE SENIOR CENTER AT FAIR OAKS
10:52:33PM BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE COST MORE MONEY HAD WE BUILT IT AT AL
10:52:36PM BARNES.
10:52:37PM I JUST NEED THIS TO BE CLEARED UP.
10:52:39PM EVEN THE TAMPA TIMES GOT IT WRONG.
10:52:43PM IT'S NOT OVER-BUDGETED.
10:52:45PM IT'S NOT CONSIDERED A WASTE.
10:52:47PM IT'S JUST THAT IT IS THE TWO PROJECTS, CORRECT?
10:52:50PM >>OCEA WYNN: THAT IS CORRECT.
10:52:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR ADDRESSING THE FEES.
10:52:54PM BECAUSE $40 IS A LOT OF MONEY DEPENDING ON WHICH FAMILY.
10:52:58PM NOT $200,000 SALARIES, THE SINGLE MOTHER WHO PROBABLY MAKES
10:53:01PM $25,000 A YEAR THAT IS A PROBLEM FOR.
10:53:04PM MS. TRAVIS, YOU, PLEASE ADDRESS, FOR ME, IF THERE WAS A
10:53:10PM DEDICATED SOURCE FOR HOUSING LIKE .1 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT,
10:53:14PM MAYBE I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE.
10:53:15PM I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE KEEPING THE MILLAGE THE SAME AND I
10:53:19PM FEEL LIKE HOUSING WOULD GET THE SHORT END OF THE STICK.
10:53:22PM CAN YOU ADDRESS THIS FROM A CRA PERSPECTIVE, PLEASE, FOR ME
10:53:25PM AND FOR COUNCIL?
10:53:26PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
10:53:28PM NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
10:53:31PM OPPORTUNITY.
10:53:31PM FROM A CRA PERSPECTIVE, THERE WERE SOME IDEAS THAT WERE
10:53:35PM THROWN OUT THIS EVENING, CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO MADE -- THREW
10:53:42PM OUT AN IDEA THAT WE'VE HAD FOR SOME TIME WHERE WE COULD BUY
10:53:45PM THE TPD BUILDING DOWNTOWN AND IDENTIFY THAT AS A
10:53:48PM REDEVELOPMENT SITE.
10:53:49PM THAT'S TRUE.
10:53:50PM THAT IS A WAY FOR US TO POSSIBLY, THE CRA TO PURCHASE THAT
10:53:55PM BUILDING FROM THE CITY AND PUT 30, $40 MILLION BACK INTO THE
10:54:02PM CITY BUDGET.
10:54:02PM THE THING YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER WITH THAT, IDENTIFIED THE
10:54:05PM SITE FOR REDEVELOPMENT, THAT MEANS THAT YOU'RE DISPLACING
10:54:09PM TPD.
10:54:10PM SO WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO PUT THEM?
10:54:12PM I'M GIVING --
10:54:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LOOKING FOR OTHER SITES.
10:54:16PM I TALKED TO SAL RUGGIERO, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS BRIEFLY
10:54:21PM ABOUT OTHER POTENTIAL SITES, NOT AT HANNA, NOT EAST TAMPA.
10:54:27PM AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, YOU CAN'T RENOVATE THE BUILDING
10:54:30PM AND RESTORE IT.
10:54:31PM IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE.
10:54:34PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I DON'T DISAGREE.
10:54:36PM MY RESPONSE TO YOU IS, IF YOU IDENTIFY THE SITE AS A
10:54:41PM POSSIBLE REDEVELOPMENT SITE, WHICH I DON'T DISAGREE WITH
10:54:44PM YOU, IT IS.
10:54:44PM IT IS A PRIME PIECE OF REAL ESTATE THAT HAS A PARKING
10:54:47PM GARAGE, YOU CAN PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, THE CRA COULD
10:54:50PM PURCHASE THE PROPERTY FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
10:54:51PM WHAT'S NEXT IS IDENTIFYING A SITE FOR TPD TO THEN GO TO
10:54:57PM WHETHER THAT MEANS BUYING THE PROPERTY AND THEN BUILDING A
10:55:00PM STRUCTURE.
10:55:01PM SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY AUTOMATICALLY
10:55:04PM FREE UP MONEY.
10:55:05PM YOU STILL HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO HOUSE YOUR
10:55:10PM POLICE STAFF, AND IF THAT'S AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT HAS
10:55:14PM TO BE RENOVATED OR MODIFIED, THERE ARE STILL COSTS
10:55:17PM ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
10:55:18PM I'M VERY TRANSPARENT WITH YOU BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TELL
10:55:21PM YOU YES, YOU CAN DO THAT BUT YOU'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT
10:55:24PM THERE IS A COST WHEN YOU RELOCATE TPD.
10:55:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I KNOW.
10:55:28PM THE MONEY WOULD GO TOWARDS A FUTURE SITE OR COULD GO.
10:55:33PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IT COULD.
10:55:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: -- FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
10:55:36PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: CORRECT.
10:55:37PM IT WOULD BE MONEY THAT WOULD GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND,
10:55:39PM BUT YOU HAVE THEN OBLIGATED IT TO GOING TOWARDS A NEW SITE,
10:55:45PM NEW BUILDING, NEW LOCATION.
10:55:47PM IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
10:55:48PM I JUST DON'T WANT -- THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION IN
10:55:53PM FREEING UP FUNDS AND THEN YOU COULD USE THAT MONEY FOR
10:55:56PM HOUSING OR FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
10:55:58PM I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT'S ONE WAY OF PUTTING MONEY BACK
10:56:01PM INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
10:56:02PM BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT TPD OFFICERS SOMEWHERE, AND THAT IS A
10:56:06PM PART OF THE CONSIDERATION.
10:56:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT ABOUT THE SUNSETTING PART?
10:56:09PM THAT IS MY LAST PIECE FOR MS. TRAVIS PLEASE IS THE
10:56:13PM SUNSETTING OF CRAs, YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THAT FOR DOWNTOWN
10:56:16PM AND CHANNELSIDE.
10:56:17PM IS THAT BENEFICIAL TO US TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME?
10:56:25PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT IS A VERY -- HERE IS THE THING,
10:56:31PM CHANNELSIDE AND DOWNTOWN ARE POSTER CHILDREN FOR WHAT
10:56:34PM SUCCESSFUL CRAs COULD LOOK LIKE.
10:56:36PM THERE IS STILL REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES IN BOTH
10:56:39PM DISTRICTS.
10:56:40PM CERTAIN TYPES OF BLIGHT IN BOTH DISTRICTS.
10:56:45PM WOULD IT BE MY PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATION TO SUNSET BOTH OF
10:56:48PM THEM, NO, BUT I THINK YOU CAN MAKE A DECISION TO PAY YOUR
10:56:51PM OBLIGATIONS, SET ASIDE SOME MONEY FOR SOME OF THE BLIGHT
10:56:55PM THAT'S STILL THERE AND FREE AND REDUCE THE CITY'S
10:56:59PM CONTRIBUTION TO THE CRAs FOR THOSE DISTRICTS.
10:57:02PM I ABSOLUTELY THINK -- I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE CONSIDERED THAT
10:57:05PM IN YOUR CRA MEETINGS.
10:57:06PM I THINK THAT THAT'S A SOLID WAY AND STARTING TO WIND THINGS
10:57:12PM DOWN, BUT THERE'S STILL BLIGHT IN THOSE DISTRICTS.
10:57:16PM IT MAY NOT BE A SHINY BUILDING, BUT TRANSPORTATION IS A
10:57:19PM BLIGHT.
10:57:19PM NORTH OF ASHLEY IN DOWNTOWN IS A BLIGHT.
10:57:22PM SO THERE ARE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT.
10:57:25PM YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT AS A CRA BODY, AND IT DOESN'T
10:57:29PM HAPPEN OVERNIGHT, BUT YOU'RE STARTING THE CONVERSATION.
10:57:35PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I JUST WANTED TO ALSO SAY THERE ARE LEGAL
10:57:38PM CONSIDERATIONS.
10:57:39PM WE HAVE AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
10:57:41PM THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
10:57:43PM THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION AS WELL.
10:57:45PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT -- CAN IT BE DONE POTENTIALLY?
10:57:53PM YES, BUT CAN'T BE DONE TONIGHT.
10:57:55PM IT WOULD TAKE TIME AND NEGOTIATION TO DEAL WITH.
10:57:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M JUST --
10:57:59PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IT IS MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION THAT YOU HAVE
10:58:02PM SEEN GREAT SUCCESS IN BOTH OF THOSE DISTRICTS, THAT IT IS --
10:58:07PM I THINK IT'S WISE TO CONSIDER THE CONVERSATIONS ON WHAT ARE
10:58:10PM YOUR OBLIGATIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN THOSE DISTRICTS, WHAT
10:58:13PM EXISTING BLIGHT THERE IS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO TARGETED
10:58:19PM INVESTMENT TO ADDRESS THOSE BLIGHTED ISSUES, PARTICULARLY
10:58:22PM HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION IN THOSE DISTRICTS, AND I THINK
10:58:25PM THAT YOU CAN START THERE AND DEFINITELY SCALE DOWN.
10:58:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THOSE FOR ME.
10:58:31PM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:58:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE YOU DONE?
10:58:34PM CHIEF BENNETT, YOU HAD SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY?
10:58:39PM >> LET'S CALL THE QUESTION.
10:58:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOLD ON.
10:58:41PM NOT EVERYONE HAS SPOKEN YET.
10:58:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN YOU SAY "CALL THE QUESTION" THAT
10:58:46PM REALLY IS A MOTION THAT REQUIRES A SECOND.
10:58:49PM BE MINDFUL OF THAT.
10:58:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALSO, WE HAVEN'T HAD A FAIR DISCUSSION
10:58:53PM YET.
10:58:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: STAFF IS ADVOCATING INSTEAD OF GIVING
10:58:57PM INFORMATION.
10:58:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF THERE IS NO SECOND.
10:58:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
10:59:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS TO END DISCUSSION.
10:59:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM STAFF.
10:59:10PM I'M TIRED OF HEARING THEM ADVOCATE.
10:59:12PM THEY HAVE A POINT OF VIEW THAT THEY ARE TOLD TO ADVOCATE FOR
10:59:18PM ON BEHALF OF THEIR BOSS, AND THEY ARE NICE PEOPLE.
10:59:21PM THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE, BUT THEY ARE ADVOCATING WHAT THEIR
10:59:23PM BOSS WANTS THEM TO.
10:59:25PM WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE
10:59:28PM CITY WHICH ISN'T THE SAME THING.
10:59:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE WAS A CALL FOR THE QUESTION.
10:59:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S ALSO NOT DEBATABLE.
10:59:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS THE CHAIR AGAIN, DON'T WANT TO CUT OFF
10:59:45PM DEBATE.
10:59:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT HAPPENS NOW IS THIS -- WELL, LET'S
10:59:49PM SEE.
10:59:49PM WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THIS.
10:59:51PM IF THERE IS A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION, IF THERE IS A
10:59:54PM SECOND, THAT TAKES PRECEDENT.
10:59:55PM IF YOU WANT TO END DEBATE, YOU VOTE YES TO CALL THE
11:00:00PM QUESTION.
11:00:00PM IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE DEBATE, YOU VOTE DOWN, VOTE CALLING
11:00:05PM THE QUESTION.
11:00:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PROPOSAL TO AMEND WHICH WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN
11:00:10PM TO YET.
11:00:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CALL THE QUESTION IS CALL THE QUESTION ON
11:00:16PM THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
11:00:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION ON THE FLOOR WAS CHAIRMAN
11:00:19PM MANISCALCO'S MOTION.
11:00:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNCIL'S DIRECTION IS,
11:00:23PM WHEN A COUNCIL MEMBER MAKES A MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION,
11:00:26PM THEN IT REQUIRES A SECOND, IF THERE IS A SECOND ON THE
11:00:29PM FLOOR, WHICH THERE IS NOW, WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, IF YOU
11:00:32PM WANT TO END THE DEBATE, YOU VOTE YES.
11:00:34PM IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION, YOU VOTE NO.
11:00:37PM AND THEN THAT PUTS THAT ASIDE AS TO WHETHER YOU CONTINUE OR
11:00:42PM NOT BECAUSE IF THE VOTE IS TO CALL THE QUESTION, IT GOES TO
11:00:46PM THE MAIN MOTION ON FLOOR.
11:00:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOT OUT OF ORDER TO HEAR FROM CHIEF
11:00:52PM BENNETT.
11:00:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT THIS TIME IT IS.
11:00:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CALL THE
11:00:57PM QUESTION.
11:00:57PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:00:59PM THE MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:01:03PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:01:04PM THIS IS TO CLOSE DISCUSSION, AND THEN TO VOTE.
11:01:11PM THE NEXT MOTION WOULD BE TO VOTE ON THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR,
11:01:14PM WHICH WOULD BE CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO, WHICH IS A NET ZERO
11:01:18PM INCREASE ON SETTING THE MILLAGE RATE AT NET ZERO INCREASE.
11:01:23PM THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO CLOSE DEBATE.
11:01:25PM THIS VOTE IS ON CLOSING DEBATE.
11:01:32PM >> MIRANDA?
11:01:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:01:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:01:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:01:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
11:01:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
11:01:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
11:01:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:01:48PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION FAILED WITH MIRANDA, CLENDENIN,
11:01:52PM HENDERSON, AND VIERA VOTING NO.
11:01:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE MOTION TO END DISCUSSION HAS FAILED.
11:01:56PM WE ARE NOW BACK INTO DISCUSSION.
11:02:03PM THE NEXT COUNCIL PERSON TO SPEAK IS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK,
11:02:06PM WOULD YOU MIND HOLDING OFF UNTIL SHE SPOKE.
11:02:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:02:12PM MS. WYNN AND MS. TRAVIS.
11:02:20PM I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
11:02:22PM A, IF WE DO INCREASE FEES, WILL THAT STOP US FROM GIVING
11:02:28PM SCHOLARSHIPS?
11:02:34PM >>OCEA WYNN: THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.
11:02:36PM I'M GOING TO SAY, NO, PROBABLY NOT.
11:02:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND, THE EAST TAMPA REC CENTER, WE HAVE A
11:02:43PM $40 MILLION BUDGET FOR IT.
11:02:45PM WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM?
11:02:47PM IS IT BEING BONDED?
11:02:50PM >>OCEA WYNN: THAT I CAN'T ANSWER.
11:02:52PM CFO ANSWER THAT.
11:02:53PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
11:02:57PM WE ANTICIPATE BONDING FUNDING TO PAY FOR THAT.
11:02:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ENTIRETY?
11:03:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: OVERWHELMING MAJORITY.
11:03:02PM THERE WAS SOME FUNDING IN THERE ALREADY.
11:03:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LIKE 90%?
11:03:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, 37 MILLION I THINK IS
11:03:11PM THE ANTICIPATED DEBT ISSUE.
11:03:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LIKE 95% OF IT.
11:03:17PM THANK YOU.
11:03:18PM AGAIN, THIS HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT TO COUNCIL.
11:03:20PM THIS WAS DECIDED BY ADMINISTRATION AND NOW WE HAVE TO
11:03:22PM APPROVE IT.
11:03:23PM WE WERE NOT ASKED.
11:03:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I FEEL I MUST CLARIFY AND CORRECT FOR THE
11:03:29PM RECORD, THAT PROJECT, INCLUDING THE ANTICIPATED DEBT SERVICE
11:03:33PM WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR '23 APPROVED BUDGET.
11:03:37PM NOW, WHAT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED YET AND, AGAIN, THERE ARE A
11:03:41PM COUPLE OF DIFFERENT STEPS.
11:03:43PM WHAT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED YET IS THE DEBT SERVICE.
11:03:45PM IT IS INCUMBENT ON US AGAIN TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL FOR ANY
11:03:49PM DEBT SERVICE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.
11:03:52PM THE PROJECT, INCLUDING THE ANTICIPATED DEBT SERVICE HAS BEEN
11:03:55PM APPROVED.
11:03:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:03:58PM I HAVE MY QUESTIONS FOR MS. TRAVIS.
11:04:01PM WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT RECURRING FUNDS, AND I'M GOING TO
11:04:16PM ALSO ASK CHIEF TRIPP THIS, WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU WOULD
11:04:19PM DO WITH $9 MILLION?
11:04:21PM IN THIS BUDGET?
11:04:23PM WHAT WOULD YOU DO WITH THIS MONEY -- IF WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE
11:04:27PM THIS AS REOCCURRING --
11:04:30PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: $9 MILLION IN REOCCURRING FUNDS.
11:04:33PM $9 MILLION IN REOCCURRING FUNDS WOULD ALLOW US TO LEVERAGE
11:04:38PM FOR A GREATER AMOUNT TO HAVE ABOUT $133.7 MILLION FOR
11:04:42PM HOUSING.
11:04:43PM THE VERY FIRST THING I WOULD DO IS PROBABLY BUY SOME
11:04:47PM PROPERTY THAT'S NOT LISTED YET FOR TEMPORARY HOUSING.
11:04:51PM WE DO NOT HAVE ANY TEMPORARY HOUSING IN THE CITY LIMITS.
11:04:55PM THE CLOSEST THING TO THAT IS TAMPA HOPE AND WE'RE AT
11:04:59PM CAPACITY EVERY DAY.
11:05:01PM SO I WOULD PROBABLY BUY HOTEL, MOTELS TO DO TEMPORARY
11:05:07PM HOUSING.
11:05:07PM BUT I NEED REOCCURRING FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE TO DO
11:05:14PM THAT.
11:05:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALSO HEARING FOR THE FIRE
11:05:16PM STATIONS.
11:05:17PM WE NEED REOCCURRING FUNDS.
11:05:20PM IF WE WERE TO AT LEAST BE ABLE TO SAY BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL,
11:05:26PM KNOCK ON WOOD, WE'RE TOGETHER FOR FOUR YEARS.
11:05:29PM SO WE COULD SAY THAT WE ARE COMMITTING THESE REOCCURRING
11:05:34PM FUNDS FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
11:05:36PM WE COULD AS A COUNCIL, I MEAN, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY DO THAT,
11:05:40PM BUT WE COULD MAKE A PROCLAMATION OR -- WE COULD MAKE A
11:05:46PM STATEMENT THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT FOR THE NEXT --
11:05:50PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:05:52PM YOU COULD MAKE A STATEMENT, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW IT
11:05:55PM WORKS.
11:05:55PM THE $9 MILLION OF REOCCURRING FUNDS, ABOUT 116 -- I NEED TO
11:06:03PM PULL IT UP, ABOUT 116 MILLION OF THAT WOULD BE LEVERAGED
11:06:07PM WITH DEBT.
11:06:07PM YOUR DEBT PAYMENTS JUST LIKE THE MORTGAGE OF YOUR HOME IS A
11:06:11PM 30-YEAR COMMITMENT.
11:06:13PM THE REASON IT HAS TO BE REOCCURRING FUNDS IS SO THAT YOU CAN
11:06:18PM PAY THAT DEBT, THAT LOAN PAYMENT, IF YOU WILL, FOR THAT
11:06:21PM MONEY OVER TIME.
11:06:22PM IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN MAKE A COMMITMENT THIS YEAR AND SAY
11:06:26PM YOU WANT IT REOCCURRING AND THEN THIS BODY COMMITS TO DOING
11:06:30PM IT FOR FOUR YEARS, THAT'S EQUIVALENT TO ASSIGNING AN
11:06:36PM ALLOCATION ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
11:06:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONCE WE BOND IT, WE'RE OBLIGATED.
11:06:42PM THAT'S BASICALLY SAYING WE'RE DOING REOCCURRING TO AT LEAST
11:06:48PM PAY.
11:06:48PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: CORRECT.
11:06:49PM YES, MA'AM.
11:06:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THE SAME THING WITH THE FIRE STATIONS,
11:06:53PM ONCE WE BOND FOR FIRE STATIONS THAT IS A REOCCURRING COST WE
11:06:58PM CAN'T SAY NO TO.
11:06:59PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S COMMITTED MONEY, YES.
11:07:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS A WAY WE COULD DO THIS.
11:07:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT'S NOT UNUSUAL AT ALL FOR CITY COUNCILS
11:07:08PM TO PUBLISH AND COMMUNICATE THEIR INTENT OVER A NUMBER OF
11:07:15PM YEARS.
11:07:15PM THAT'S WHAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM IS.
11:07:20PM COUNCIL CAN ONLY ADOPT IT LEGALLY EVERY ONE YEAR BUT YOU
11:07:23PM HAVE A FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND THAT IS
11:07:26PM COUNCIL'S INTENT AT THE TIME, BUT, OF COURSE, INTENT
11:07:29PM CHANGES.
11:07:29PM THANK YOU.
11:07:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:07:39PM WHILE I CAN, I'M GOING TO ASK CHIEF TRIPP BECAUSE WE'RE
11:07:42PM TALKING ABOUT BOTH OF THESE.
11:07:43PM WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU WOULD DO WITH YOUR ALLOCATION IF
11:07:50PM WE ALLOCATED, I KNOW IT'S 9.6 FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT LET'S
11:07:55PM SAY 8 OF THAT GOES TOWARD FIRE?
11:08:01PM >> BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
11:08:06PM SAYING 8 MILLION?
11:08:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHATEVER MONEY YOU WOULD GET ALLOCATED.
11:08:10PM WHAT IS THE FIRST THING YOU WOULD DO WITH THE MONEY?
11:08:13PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: FIRST THING IS MAKE SURE WE NEED THE
11:08:16PM RESOURCES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE STATIONS WE HAVE, I WOULD
11:08:19PM DEFINITELY REBUILD THOSE STATIONS.
11:08:22PM I WOULD BUILD 24, STATION 24 AND THEN JUST GET THE RESOURCES
11:08:27PM WITH THE STATIONS THAT WE HAVE NOW, LIKE STATION 9, THAT
11:08:30PM STATION NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT I
11:08:35PM NEED TO GET THE MAINTENANCE OUT THERE AS WELL.
11:08:38PM I WOULD ACTUALLY GET LIKE MAINTENANCE SUPPLY FACILITY FOR
11:08:44PM BOTH OF THOSE AND REBUILD STATION 9 TO ACCOMMODATE THE UNITS
11:08:48PM THEY HAVE IN THERE, WHAT IT NEEDS.
11:08:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHERE ARE WE ON STATION 24?
11:08:53PM WHERE ARE WE ON STATION 24?
11:08:58PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: IT'S ON HOLD RIGHT NOW.
11:09:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO WE HAVE A LOCATION?
11:09:04PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I HAVE BEEN LOOKING OVER IN THE NORTH TAMPA
11:09:06PM AREA.
11:09:07PM WHEN I SAY NORTH TAMPA, UP BY GRECO AREA, SO WE'VE DONE A
11:09:11PM COUPLE OF SURVEYS AND STUFF, BUT IT'S KIND OF ON HOLD RIGHT
11:09:14PM NOW.
11:09:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT YOU HAVE IDENTIFIED A SITE.
11:09:17PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THAT'S MY PLAN, YES, MA'AM.
11:09:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHERE IS THAT SITE?
11:09:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT MAY NOT BE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.
11:09:27PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: TENTATIVE IN NORTH TAMPA AREA.
11:09:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THAT PROPERTY READY TO BE BUILT ON?
11:09:32PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE SO FAR, YES, MA'AM.
11:09:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU HAVE DONE SITE STUFF?
11:09:37PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES.
11:09:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M TRYING TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW -- SO HOW
11:09:42PM LONG -- AGAIN, TRYING TO GET THIS AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE, HOW
11:09:46PM LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO ALLOCATE OR TO, I'M SORRY, TO MAKE A
11:09:49PM PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN FOR THIS?
11:09:55PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: WHEN YOU SAY MAKE A PRELIMINARY SITE,
11:09:58PM DEVELOPER --
11:09:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE JUST TO GET THAT
11:10:02PM GOING?
11:10:02PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I THINK IT WOULD BE PROBABLY CLOSE TO 90 DAYS
11:10:05PM TO GET THE SITE AND GET THE DESIGN CREW IN TO DESIGN THE
11:10:09PM BUILDING AND STUFF.
11:10:10PM IT'S MY FIRST.
11:10:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN LAST THING.
11:10:17PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: 12 TO 18 MONTHS.
11:10:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN TERMS OF FIRE STATION 24 AND THE OTHER
11:10:22PM FIRE STATIONS THAT WE NEED TO REPLACE, WHAT IS THE
11:10:25PM APPROXIMATE COST?
11:10:27PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: TO REPLACE.
11:10:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OR BUILD A BRAND-NEW FIRE STATION.
11:10:32PM BOTH WILL BE THE SAME THING.
11:10:34PM WE'RE NOT REALLY GOING TO REFURBISH WHAT WE'RE TALKING
11:10:37PM ABOUT.
11:10:38PM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPLACEMENT.
11:10:39PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THE LAST INFORMATION I DID GET FROM FACILITY
11:10:42PM RANGED ANYWHERE FROM FIVE TO NINE MILLION.
11:10:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU GOT THAT?
11:10:50PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THE LAST TIME WE HAD A STATION BUILT?
11:10:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE LAST TIME YOU GOT THAT FIGURE.
11:10:56PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THAT WAS WITHIN THE LAST MONTH BECAUSE I'VE
11:10:58PM BEEN TRYING TO GET INFORMATION.
11:11:00PM IT WAS WITHIN THE LAST MONTH GOT THE FIGURES OF FIVE TO
11:11:03PM SEVEN.
11:11:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FIVE TO NINE MILLION.
11:11:06PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: DEPENDS ON THE SIZE.
11:11:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ORDER OF DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
11:11:12PM THEN ME AND THEN I'LL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:11:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: A LOT OF THINGS I WANT TO SAY, REAL FAST AND
11:11:20PM PERTINENT TO THIS CONVERSATION, ON THE DOWNTOWN AND CHANNEL
11:11:24PM DISTRICT CRA, IT'S NOT ALL OR NOTHING.
11:11:26PM WE CAN PUT A CAP ON IT.
11:11:27PM THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.
11:11:30PM IT'S LATE AT NIGHT.
11:11:31PM I'LL TRY TO REMEMBER THE NUMBERS.
11:11:33PM WE COMMITTED 117 MILLION.
11:11:35PM THAT'S ALL WE'VE COMMITTED.
11:11:37PM THAT'S KEEPING ALL THE PROMISES WE MADE.
11:11:39PM EVERYTHING ELSE IS ON A WISH LIST.
11:11:41PM JUST OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS WE'LL GENERATE ANOTHER $330
11:11:44PM MILLION ABOVE THAT 117.
11:11:48PM STARTING WITH LIKE 10 OR $12 MILLION NEXT YEAR.
11:11:53PM THAT IS JUST 10 OR 12 MILLION IS ENOUGH TO RADICALLY CHANGE
11:11:57PM HOUSING OR ROADS OR PARKS OR ANY OF THESE THINGS WE'RE
11:12:00PM TALKING ABOUT.
11:12:01PM BUT BY YEAR TEN IT'S LIKE $60 MILLION A YEAR, AND THAT'S
11:12:05PM CONSERVATIVE PROJECTIONS.
11:12:06PM THAT'S NOT EVEN INCLUDING THE REST OF THE CRA WHICH GOES TO
11:12:10PM LIKE 2044 OR SOMETHING.
11:12:12PM SO WE CAN'T COMMIT THAT, ALL THAT MONEY TO ONE PLACE FOR
11:12:19PM LONG TERM, BUT AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE, WE CAN KEEP PUTTING IT
11:12:22PM IN A PARKS FUND OR ROADS FUND OR HOUSING FUND, WHATEVER WE
11:12:25PM WANT.
11:12:26PM THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
11:12:28PM IF YOU ALL SAY, WELL, THERE ARE STILL THINGS WE WANT, THERE
11:12:31PM ARE SOME DEVELOPERS WE NEED TO SUBSIDIZE OR WHATEVER, WE CAN
11:12:34PM SAY, WELL, HOW ABOUT ANYTHING ABOVE 150?
11:12:37PM STILL $300 MILLION LEFT.
11:12:41PM EVEN IF YOU SAY LET'S ADD ANOTHER 150 ON TOP OF IT, THAT'S
11:12:46PM STILL 180 MILLION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:12:48PM THERE IS A LOT OF MONEY LEFT IN THERE.
11:12:50PM THE THING PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WHY IS IT THAT WITH ALL THE
11:12:53PM DEVELOPMENT, ALL THE GROWTH IN OUR AREA, WHY IS IT THAT OUR
11:12:56PM NEIGHBORHOODS AREN'T BENEFITING FROM IT?
11:12:58PM IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S NOT SOME FAR-REACHING DEFINITION OF
11:13:02PM SLUM AND BLIGHT IN SOME PART OF DOWNTOWN, BUT WE HEARD THE
11:13:08PM DISABILITY COMMUNITY SAYING WE CAN'T GO DOWN SIDEWALKS
11:13:12PM ANYWHERE IN THE CITY BECAUSE THE SIDEWALKS AREN'T DONE.
11:13:14PM WE HAVE POTHOLES ALL OVER THE CITY.
11:13:17PM EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD THINKS THEY ARE BEING IGNORED BECAUSE
11:13:20PM THERE ARE POTHOLES.
11:13:21PM PARKS ARE FALLING APART ACROSS THE CITY.
11:13:24PM 50,000 PEOPLE DESPERATELY WAITING FOR HOUSING.
11:13:26PM WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO SPEND IT ON IN DOWNTOWN, FROM THIS
11:13:30PM POINT FORWARD, WE'VE GOT TO WEIGH IT AGAINST THOSE
11:13:34PM PRIORITIES.
11:13:34PM WHATEVER NUMBER, WHEN WE GET TO THE NEXT CRA MEETING,
11:13:37PM HOPEFULLY YOU PICK WHATEVER NUMBER YOU THINK WE NEED ON TOP
11:13:40PM OF 117 AND TRY TO PUT A CAP.
11:13:42PM MORRIS WILL TELL US THERE ARE LEGAL HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH,
11:13:45PM BUT THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY TO FIND WITHOUT INCREASING TAXES.
11:13:50PM TEN YEARS, $60 MILLION IS MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
11:13:53PM $12 MILLION IS NOT COMPARED TO THE INCREASE, BUT IT GROWS
11:13:55PM OVER TIME.
11:13:56PM THANK YOU.
11:13:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO DOUBLE DOWN ON SOMETHING THAT
11:13:59PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SUGGESTED AND THAT'S THAT WE HAVE
11:14:03PM ANOTHER MEETING NEXT TUESDAY, A WORKSHOP MEETING TO GO
11:14:06PM THROUGH THE DETAILS.
11:14:07PM I THINK WHAT WE'VE DISCOVERED TONIGHT IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE
11:14:13PM ALL THE FACTS TO MAKE A FAIR ASSESSMENT OF WHERE WE ARE AND
11:14:19PM HOW WE MOVE FORWARD.
11:14:20PM I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE FACTS THAT WE CAN
11:14:23PM GIVE THEM SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS AND WHAT TO BRING FORWARD
11:14:28PM NEXT TUESDAY TO US SO WE CAN MAKE A VERY JUDICIOUS DECISION
11:14:32PM IN THE INTEREST OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:14:35PM I KNOW YOU OBJECTED TO IT.
11:14:38PM I'LL ASK THE CHIEF WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.
11:14:40PM I DO WANT TO HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.
11:14:45PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:14:49PM ALL I WAS GOING TO DO WAS NOT ADVOCATE FOR THE OUTCOME BUT
11:14:52PM ADVOCATE FOR THE PROCESS.
11:14:54PM AFTER WE FINISHED THE WORKSHOP, THE MAYOR AND STAFF WERE
11:14:57PM VERY EXPLICIT ABOUT PUTTING ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT THE
11:15:00PM MILLAGE WOULD PERFORM INTO COMPARTMENTALIZATION SLIDES FOR
11:15:04PM COUNCIL TO DO EXACTLY WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING TONIGHT.
11:15:07PM IF YOU FIND SOMETHING IN THE EXISTING BUDGET OR THE PROPOSED
11:15:10PM BUDGET, AND YOU WANT TO TRADE THAT FOR SOMETHING ELSE,
11:15:13PM THAT'S KIND OF THE EXERCISE THAT WE WERE PREPARED FOR
11:15:17PM TONIGHT.
11:15:17PM IF YOU SAID, HEY, WE HAVE MONEY WITHIN, BUT WE WANT TO TAKE
11:15:21PM THIS SQUARE AND REPLACE IT WITH THIS SQUARE, THAT'S WHAT
11:15:24PM EVERYTHING WAS BUILT FOR.
11:15:26PM AND WHAT THE STAFF'S CONCERN IS, THE MILLAGE IS A RESOURCE.
11:15:30PM IF THOSE THINGS MAKE SENSE ON A WORKSHOP ON TUESDAY, THEN
11:15:33PM WE'RE HERE TO FULLY SUPPORT THAT PROCESS.
11:15:36PM BUT IF FOR SOME REASON AS CHIEF ROGERO SAID, IF IT DOESN'T,
11:15:40PM THEN THERE'S NO COMING BACK AFTER TONIGHT.
11:15:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M GOING TO CLOSE, AND I SUSPECT I CAN
11:15:47PM LOOK INTO THE CRYSTAL BALL AND SEE WHERE THE NEXT SPEAKER IS
11:15:50PM GOING TO GO WITH THIS, BUT I WOULD URGE THE NEXT COUNCIL
11:15:53PM PERSON THAT SPEAKS AND MY FELLOW COUNCIL FOLKS IS THAT WE
11:15:58PM DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS.
11:15:59PM THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO TONIGHT IS TIE OUR HANDS
11:16:03PM WITHOUT KNOWING ALL THE FACTS.
11:16:06PM WE HAVE ALREADY MADE A COUNCIL DECISION OF REJECTING THE
11:16:10PM FULL MILLAGE, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.
11:16:16PM THAT DECISION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE.
11:16:18PM BUT I WOULD REALLY CAUTION, I'M NOT GOING TO BE THE ONE TO
11:16:21PM MAKE THE MOTION.
11:16:22PM I SUSPECT THE NEXT COUNCIL PERSON WILL.
11:16:25PM I REALLY HOPE PROVIDE FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE AS NEW FACTS
11:16:29PM BECOME AVAILABLE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO
11:16:32PM CHANGE OUR MINDS OR CHANGE OUR JUDGMENT, WHETHER IT'S TO
11:16:35PM SUPPORT HOUSING, SUPPORT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS, TO
11:16:40PM SUPPORT TRANSPORTATION OR IT'S TO DO NOTHING, BUT COUNCIL
11:16:44PM SHOULD HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THEM BEFORE
11:16:48PM MAKING THAT DECISION.
11:16:51PM AND TONIGHT IS A POINT OF NO RETURN.
11:16:53PM SO I WOULD URGE, YOU KNOW, LET THE COUNCIL CHOOSE THEIR
11:16:58PM WILL, BUT I WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL TO HAVE THAT WEIGH HEAVY
11:17:04PM ON THEIR SOUL.
11:17:05PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:17:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
11:17:07PM VERY BRIEFLY BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE LATE INTO THE NIGHT.
11:17:10PM AGAIN, WHEN I TALKED ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT I HAD WITH
11:17:12PM THAT 16% TAX INCREASE, THIS IS, I THINK, THE RESULTS OF
11:17:17PM GOING DOWN THAT ROUTE.
11:17:18PM I KNOW THAT ACTING CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN SAID IS VERY TRUE,
11:17:24PM WHICH IS IF WE GO WITHOUT A MILLAGE INCREASE OF ANY KIND TO
11:17:30PM EVEN DATE IS SO TO SPEAK AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE'LL DO IN
11:17:34PM TWO WEEKS, WE'RE DONE.
11:17:36PM WE ARE MARRIED TO THE 6.2 MILL.
11:17:38PM WE'RE CATHOLIC AND THERE'S NO DIVORCE.
11:17:40PM SO THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY, THANK YOU ST. PETER CLAVER.
11:17:46PM YEAH, THAT IS A BIG THING THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
11:17:49PM A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:17:51PM I TALK ABOUT HAVING A VERY SMALL MILL INCREASE THAT CAN GO
11:17:56PM TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
11:17:57PM A COUPLE OF THINGS.
11:17:59PM THE RETORT TO THAT IS, INCLUDING IDEAS LIKE WE CAN DO PUBLIC
11:18:03PM SAFETY IMPACT FEES, RIGHT?
11:18:04PM SOMETHING THAT WAS PROPOSED TWO YEARS AGO, WE'RE GOING TO
11:18:07PM TAKE IT UP TONIGHT.
11:18:08PM GREAT, I'LL VOTE FOR IT LIKE I DID A COUPLE OF TIMES BEFORE.
11:18:11PM THE CRA, CHANGE IN THAT.
11:18:14PM I VOTED FOR THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
11:18:16PM WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT TWO YEARS AGO, WE'RE TAKING IT UP
11:18:18PM TONIGHT AGAIN.
11:18:19PM I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THESE THINGS.
11:18:22PM ALL GREAT IDEAS BUT THINGS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT LATE AS IN
11:18:25PM MY OPINION POOR SUBSTITUTES FOR DOING WHAT IS THE RIGHT
11:18:28PM THING IN MY OPINION.
11:18:29PM WE TALK ABOUT THE IDEA THAT, OH, WE DON'T KNOW IF WE RAISE
11:18:32PM THE MILLAGE FOR A CERTAIN IDEA, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO TO
11:18:36PM THAT.
11:18:36PM MAN, OH, MAN, YOU CAPPED THE CRA, THAT IS A LONG ROAD TO
11:18:41PM DIRECTING THAT MONEY.
11:18:42PM IF WE HAVE VERY LITTLE PULL ON WHERE THE MILLAGE SPENDING
11:18:45PM GOES, WHICH, BY THE WAY, I DON'T THINK WE DO, LOOK AT PAST
11:18:48PM HISTORY.
11:18:49PM BUT IF WE DON'T, LOOK AT CHANGES IN THE CRA, THERE IS A LOT
11:18:52PM LESS CERTAINTY IN THAT, ET CETERA.
11:18:55PM WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MOST OPTIMISTIC LENS FOR SOME OF THESE
11:18:59PM POTENTIAL REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS WHILE LOOKING AT A MILLAGE
11:19:04PM INCREASE WITH THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF SKEPTICISM AND
11:19:06PM PESSIMISM RESULTING IN A MILLAGE INCREASE FOR THE THINGS
11:19:11PM THAT WE WANT.
11:19:12PM I WOULD TAKE THAT.
11:19:12PM AGAIN, MISTAKES HAVE BEEN MADE IN SPENDING IN THE PAST.
11:19:17PM TALKED ABOUT HANNA, TALKED ABOUT THE $3 MILLION SOLAR
11:19:21PM POWERED ROOF THAT I AND EVERYBODY VOTED FOR AT CITY COUNCIL.
11:19:24PM WOULDN'T WE WANT THAT $3 MILLION BACK.
11:19:26PM I THINK WE WOULD ALL GO BACK ON THAT, CALLING IT A MISTAKE,
11:19:29PM BUT WE SHOULDN'T LET PUBLIC SAFETY PAY THE PRICE FOR THOSE
11:19:32PM MISTAKES.
11:19:33PM THAT'S MY VIEW.
11:19:34PM IF I MAY, AND I THINK I KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO, BUT
11:19:38PM TO GIVE US SOME FLEXIBILITY, I WOULD MAKE A -- RESPECTFULLY
11:19:41PM MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO HAVE A .3 INCREASE IN THE MILL
11:19:46PM AS OPPOSED TO STAYING FLAT.
11:19:48PM THAT'S MY SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
11:19:51PM I SAY THAT RESPECTFULLY TO MY GOOD FRIEND AND CHAIRMAN
11:19:54PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, GREAT NIGHT TONIGHT.
11:19:57PM THANK YOU.
11:19:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
11:20:00PM IS THERE A SECOND?
11:20:01PM WE HAVE THE INITIAL MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WAS TO
11:20:08PM SET THE MILLAGE RATE AT NET ZERO.
11:20:12PM COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS MADE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION TO SET THE
11:20:17PM MILLAGE RATE AT AN INCREASE OF .3.
11:20:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: 70% CUT.
11:20:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIR PRO TEM, JUST A
11:20:27PM REMINDER THAT UNDER ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, A SUBSTITUTE
11:20:30PM MOTION IS ACTUALLY A MOTION TO AMEND.
11:20:33PM WHAT YOU'RE DOING THEN IS YOU ARE IN EFFECT MAKING A REQUEST
11:20:37PM TO THE BOARD TO AMEND THE MAIN MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
11:20:42PM WHAT HAPPENS IS, IF YOU WANT TO BE MORE SPECIFIC, WE CAN DO
11:20:45PM THE MATH SO YOU CAN HAVE THE EXACT MILLAGE RATE IF YOU WANT
11:20:48PM TO DO THAT OR WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
11:20:51PM I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GIST IS.
11:20:53PM INCREASE IT FROM WHAT IS THE MAIN MOTION PLUS .3.
11:21:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU RESTATE YOUR
11:21:03PM MOTION?
11:21:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: MY MOTION TO AMEND CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO'S
11:21:06PM MOTION IS TO HAVE THE MILLAGE GO UP BY .3 FOR OUR
11:21:09PM CONSIDERATION AT THE NEXT MEETING.
11:21:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION
11:21:13PM THAT'S ON THE FLOOR.
11:21:15PM IS THERE A SECOND?
11:21:15PM HEARING NO SECOND, THE REQUESTED AMENDMENT DIES.
11:21:22PM WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COUNCILMAN GUIDO
11:21:28PM MANISCALCO ON SETTING THE MILLAGE RATE -- THAT'S ALREADY
11:21:33PM BEEN ASKED AND SECONDED.
11:21:35PM DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THAT AGAIN?
11:21:36PM DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:21:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I SECONDED THE MOTION.
11:21:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE QUESTION HAS ALREADY BEEN ASKED AND
11:21:43PM SECONDED.
11:21:45PM HEARING NO DISCUSSION --
11:21:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY.
11:21:52PM THE PUBLIC HAS ASKED US TO LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS AND THAT'S
11:21:57PM WHAT WE'RE DOING.
11:21:58PM PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS, BUT THE
11:22:03PM THING IS WE'VE HAD THIS BUDGET FOR A MONTH AND WE'VE BEEN
11:22:06PM ABLE TO DIVE INTO IT.
11:22:08PM AND I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER WE MAKE THIS VOTE.
11:22:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HEARING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE HAVE A
11:22:15PM MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT'S BEEN SECONDED.
11:22:17PM ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
11:22:18PM MIRANDA.
11:22:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
11:22:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
11:22:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:22:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:22:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:22:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
11:22:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:22:39PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSED WITH HENDERSON, VIERA, AND
11:22:42PM CLENDENIN VOTING NO.
11:22:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE TAKING A BREAK TO ADJUST --
11:22:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HOW LONG DO YOU THINK YOU NEED?
11:22:52PM 15 MINUTE BREAK OR 20?
11:22:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 15 MINUTES IS FINE.
11:22:58PM WE'LL BE BACK AT 11:40.
11:23:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BREAK UNTIL 11:40.
11:23:03PM [BREAK]
11:50:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
11:50:12PM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
11:50:14PM IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:50:18PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
11:50:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
11:50:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
11:50:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
11:50:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
11:50:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
11:50:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
11:50:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
11:50:28PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
11:50:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CHAIR, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE CAN
11:50:36PM HAVE A MEETING, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS PUBLICLY.
11:50:40PM MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO START IN THE AFTERNOON AND
11:50:44PM THEN THAT WAY WE CAN GO LATE, BUT IF WE START IN THE
11:50:47PM AFTERNOON, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE A LITTLE FRESHER.
11:50:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WILL PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING BE ABLE TO
11:50:53PM MAKE IT TO THE MEETING?
11:50:54PM WOULD WE CUT OFF A POPULATION THAT'S WORKING UNTIL 5 OR
11:50:59PM WHATEVER?
11:51:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WELL, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT, BUT THIS IS
11:51:04PM GOING TO BE A LONG MEETING.
11:51:05PM WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS WE WANT.
11:51:06PM WE'LL HAVE TO BRING COMPUTERS.
11:51:08PM WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT FOR STAFF TO GIVE US ANSWERS ON THINGS.
11:51:13PM I DON'T KNOW.
11:51:13PM IT'S A WORKSHOP SESSION.
11:51:14PM I FEEL LIKE THE PUBLIC COULD --
11:51:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTERNOON, LIKE 3 IN THE AFTERNOON.
11:51:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS THINKING LIKE 1.
11:51:23PM THAT WAY WE GO TO MIDNIGHT.
11:51:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIDNIGHT?
11:51:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BITE YOUR TONGUE.
11:51:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO CENSURE.
11:51:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE'S THE THING, I CAN DO ANY DAY BECAUSE
11:51:36PM I'LL MOVE MY CALENDAR.
11:51:37PM THE ONLY DAY WE LITERALLY CAN'T DO IS THREE SERVE ON THE TPO
11:51:42PM ON WEDNESDAY MORNING AND WE HAVE TO MAKE A NOTE FOR A NEW
11:51:45PM EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
11:51:46PM THAT'S THE ONLY TIME I CAN'T BE THERE.
11:51:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK THAT STARTS AT FIVE.
11:52:02PM SHOULDN'T GO LONG.
11:52:04PM STARTING AT 6:30, HAVE OUR ATTENDANCE.
11:52:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW MONDAY IS AN IMPORTANT DAY, BUT IS
11:52:17PM THERE ANYBODY THAT CAN DO MONDAY?
11:52:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD YOU GO TO THE MICROPHONE?
11:52:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT WEDNESDAY AFTER 2:00?
11:52:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: MY PROBLEM IS, I'M IN COURT FROM 2 TO 4 THAT
11:52:45PM DAY.
11:52:46PM BUT AT 4:00, SHOULD BE AVAILABLE.
11:52:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WEDNESDAY AFTER 4.
11:52:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT FRIDAY?
11:52:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: I CAN'T FRIDAY.
11:53:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GOOD FOR WEDNESDAY.
11:53:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WEDNESDAY WHAT TIME?
11:53:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S SAY 5:00.
11:53:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DO HAVE A MEETING ON THE FOLLOWING DAY.
11:53:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, AT 9 A.M.
11:53:13PM THIS WILL BE A LONG MEETING WE HAVE A TON OF QUESTIONS.
11:53:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT ABOUT FRIDAY?
11:53:21PM CAN WE DO FRIDAY?
11:53:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I FEEL LIKE IT WILL BE A LONG MEETING.
11:53:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT DAY IS THAT, SEPTEMBER --
11:53:28PM >> 13th.
11:53:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 13.
11:53:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION BUT THERE IS A
11:53:51PM LEVEL OF COMFORT KNOWING THAT ALL YOUR BUDGET HEARINGS
11:53:53PM RELATED TO THIS ARE 5:01 UNDER STATE LAW.
11:53:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 5:01 TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY?
11:54:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WOULD HAVE TO BE WEDNESDAY.
11:54:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I COULD DO FRIDAY EASILY.
11:54:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I CAN'T.
11:54:11PM FLYING TO SEE MY BABY.
11:54:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WEDNESDAY AT 5:01.
11:54:15PM WEDNESDAY THE 13th AT 5:01.
11:54:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S GOING TO BE BRUTAL.
11:54:20PM IT'S NOT JUST US AND STAFF.
11:54:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN WE HAVE TO GET UP FOR THE CRA.
11:54:28PM WE HAVE THE CRA IN THE EVENING.
11:54:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SEPTEMBER 14 YOU HAVE A CRA MEETING.
11:55:01PM TURN ON YOUR MICROPHONES.
11:55:03PM LET'S HAVE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
11:55:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WEDNESDAY AT 1:00.
11:55:11PM THAT HOPEFULLY WILL GET US OUT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER AND BE
11:55:15PM KIND TO ALL THE SUPPORT STAFF THAT WORK WITH US.
11:55:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY ON THAT, MR. CHAIR, I MEAN, I WOULD
11:55:22PM BE GLAD TO DO THAT.
11:55:23PM I WOULD HAVE TO STEP OUT FOR AN HOUR, AND I WOULD JUST ASK
11:55:27PM THAT NO VOTES OR ANYTHING BE TAKEN OR NOBODY TALKS BAD ABOUT
11:55:31PM ME WHILE I'M OUT -- I'M JOKING.
11:55:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION.
11:55:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
11:55:42PM THIS BEING A SPECIAL-CALLED WORKSHOP OUTSIDE OF NOW YOU'RE
11:55:47PM IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, THIS IS YOUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING
11:55:50PM TONIGHT, COMING BACK ON THE 19th FOR THE SECOND ADOPTION
11:55:54PM PUBLIC HEARING, THERE WILL BE JUST THE REMINDER THAT THERE
11:56:02PM WILL BE NO OPPORTUNITY FOR OFFICIAL ACTION.
11:56:06PM AS A MATTER OF FACT, COUNCIL, IF YOU WANT TO -- I'M NOT
11:56:09PM SUGGESTING THIS, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE
11:56:12PM YOU'RE UNDER TIME PRESSURE, YOU CAN ALSO MAKE DECISION WITH
11:56:17PM REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW MUCH TIME WAS
11:56:20PM SPENT ON PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
11:56:22PM IF THIS IS TRULY A WORKSHOP AND YOU WILL NOT TAKE ANY
11:56:25PM ACTION, THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND YOU WILL HAVE TO
11:56:29PM REHASH OR SOMEHOW CREATE WHAT YOU DECIDED, COMMUNICATE THAT
11:56:36PM TO THE ADMINISTRATION DURING THE WORKSHOP SO THEY CAN COME
11:56:39PM BACK ON THE 19th WITH A PRODUCT THAT THE PUBLIC CAN TALK
11:56:43PM WITH.
11:56:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC -- WE'RE ASKING
11:56:46PM THEM NOW.
11:56:47PM WE'RE TELLING EVERYBODY NOW, IF YOU'VE GOT CUTS, COME ON
11:56:50PM WEDNESDAY.
11:56:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN I CAN HONESTLY SAY I DON'T HAVE ANY
11:56:55PM SENSE OF HOW LONG YOUR MEETING WILL OR COULD RUN BECAUSE YOU
11:56:58PM HAVE NO CONTROL --
11:57:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WEDNESDAY AT 2:00.
11:57:02PM NO ACTION TAKEN.
11:57:04PM PUBLIC COMMENT, IT'S FINE.
11:57:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 1:00.
11:57:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 1:00 IS FINE.
11:57:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW ABOUT 1:30?
11:57:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 1:30.
11:57:22PM >> YOU DO HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT IN HERE AT 9 AND 1.
11:57:26PM THEY ARE NOTICED IN ADVANCED.
11:57:28PM WE'LL NEED TO RELOCATE THEM BECAUSE THESE FOLKS BELIEVE THAT
11:57:32PM THEY ARE GOING TO BE IN HERE.
11:57:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN THEY GO TO THE SISTER CITIES ROOM?
11:57:40PM >> I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO NEED THAT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT
11:57:43PM DURING THE WORKSHOP.
11:57:45PM I DON'T KNOW.
11:57:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BY THE WAY, FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND
11:57:48PM OF SETUP.
11:57:49PM I KNOW THAT IT IS SOMETHING WHERE TESTIMONY IS TAKEN AND
11:57:52PM THERE IS A PRESENTATION AND IT'S ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW
11:57:55PM WHETHER IT'S JUST A HEARING OFFICER THAT DAY OR HOW IT
11:57:59PM WORKS.
11:58:00PM >> MINUTES HAVE TO BE TAKEN.
11:58:02PM I THINK THEY ACTUALLY RECORD IT.
11:58:04PM IT IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEM.
11:58:07PM WE'LL HAVE TO TALK TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
11:58:10PM >> ANY WAY WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO START THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER
11:58:12PM ON THE WEDNESDAY?
11:58:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HESITATE TO START TOO LATE BECAUSE THEN
11:58:20PM WE'LL KEEP GOING ALL NIGHT.
11:58:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M NOT GOING TO SLEEP TONIGHT.
11:58:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: WEDNESDAY, IF IT IS AT 3:00, I WOULD HAVE TO
11:58:34PM MISS VERY LIKELY THE BEGINNING.
11:58:36PM THAT'S FINE.
11:58:37PM I'LL HAVE MY AIDE LISTENING AND SHE CAN BRIEF ME BEFORE I
11:58:41PM WALK IN.
11:58:43PM I'M FINE WITH 3.
11:58:45PM >> SULING SAID 3:00 IS DOABLE.
11:58:48PM WEDNESDAY AT 3.
11:58:50PM THEN AT LEAST WE ARE NOT DISPLACING ANYONE.
11:58:53PM THAT I THINK WOULD BE PRETTY COURTEOUS.
11:58:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO SET A WORKSHOP
11:59:00PM WHERE NO ACTION TAKEN FOR SEPTEMBER 13, WEDNESDAY 3 P.M.,
11:59:04PM OLD CITY HALL, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
11:59:06PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:59:07PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:59:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S A SPECIAL CALLED BUDGET WORKSHOP.
11:59:18PM AGAIN, WITH REGARD TO -- I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THIS
11:59:21PM JUST SO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC CAN PREPARE AHEAD, WHEN DO
11:59:25PM YOU ANTICIPATE PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN, AT WHAT POINT
11:59:28PM IN THE WORKSHOP?
11:59:29PM THE WAY YOU'VE HAD WORKSHOPS NOW SINCE THE PANDEMIC, BEFORE
11:59:32PM THE PANDEMIC, YOU ONLY TOOK PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END BEFORE
11:59:35PM YOU TOOK OFFICIAL ACTION.
11:59:37PM NO OFFICIAL ACTION ANYWAY.
11:59:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL TAKE IT AT THE BEGINNING AND TREAT
11:59:41PM IT AS SUCH.
11:59:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEGINNING ONLY.
11:59:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, BECAUSE NO ACTION WILL BE TAKEN.
11:59:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T THINK WE'LL GET A LOT OF PUBLIC
11:59:50PM COMMENT.
11:59:50PM TONIGHT WE DISPOSED IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WHAT BOTHERED THE
12:00:59AM PUBLIC THE MOST.
12:00:59AM I DON'T THINK WE'LL GET A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:00:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST SO I'M CLEAR FOR PURPOSE OF NOTICE,
12:00:01AM PUBLIC COMMENT WILL ONLY BE TAKEN AT THE START OF THE
12:00:04AM WORKSHOP.
12:00:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TAKING OFFICIAL
12:00:06AM ACTION.
12:00:07AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, SECOND FROM
12:00:09AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, ALL IN FAVOR?
12:00:12AM 3:00, WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
12:00:29AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
12:00:31AM ONE MORE ADJUSTMENT BEING MADE TO THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT
12:00:35AM CLEAR WHAT YOU'RE ADOPTING IS THE BUDGET AS WILL BE AMENDED
12:00:39AM BY YOU --
12:00:44AM [ENCODER DROP]
12:00:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD AND READ THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE
12:00:53AM RATE.
12:00:53AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THIS IS A MOTION.
12:01:03AM >> THERE IS AN ARC MEETING IN HERE THAT EVENING AT 5:30.
12:01:08AM BUT WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO CANCEL THAT.
12:01:13AM HAVE TO ADVISE THEM.
12:01:14AM TOM DEA JUST INFORMED ME.
12:01:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE TO IMAGINE THAT WE OWN A VIDEO CAMERA
12:01:21AM SOMEWHERE ELSE THAT CAN RECORD THIS SOMEWHERE, RIGHT?
12:01:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DO.
12:01:24AM IT'S ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
12:01:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M SURE THEY COULD -- I'M SURE IT WILL BE
12:01:34AM LIKE -- OUR HOUSE.
12:01:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
12:01:42AM THE MOTION WOULD COME FROM -- ACTUALLY, I WOULD ASK, MR.
12:01:50AM ROGERO, DO YOU HAVE TO SPEAK THE WORDS, FINANCE CHAIR PLEASE
12:01:53AM MAKE A MOTION?
12:02:00AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING AGAIN.
12:02:01AM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
12:02:04AM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE COME TO AN ACCORD ON THE SPECIFIC
12:02:06AM LANGUAGE THOUGH FOR THE ORDINANCE BETWEEN --
12:02:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
12:02:10AM THIS IS FOR THE TENTATIVE MILLAGE RATE.
12:02:17AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU CAN MAKE THE MOTION FOR THE TENTATIVE
12:02:19AM MILLAGE RATE.
12:02:20AM THE ORDINANCE, WHICH YOU ALSO NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON
12:02:22AM TONIGHT, THAT IS COMING BACK.
12:02:25AM THAT IS THE SECOND ITEM.
12:02:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, YOU AS THE
12:02:30AM FINANCE CHAIR, WOULD YOU READ --
12:02:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 11?
12:02:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:02:38AM DO YOU HAVE THE CORRECT --
12:02:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T HAVE THAT.
12:02:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS WITH THE CORRECTED MILLAGE RATE.
12:02:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 11, REGARDING THE MILLAGE
12:02:51AM RATE FOR THE COMING YEAR OF 2024, 23-2024 MILLAGE RATE OF
12:02:56AM 6.2076, MOVE TO TENTATIVELY ADOPT THE PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE
12:03:01AM OF 6.2076 MILLS WHICH IS 6.95 MORE THAN THE ROLLED BACK
12:03:06AM MILLAGE RATE OF 5.8041 MILLS FOR PROPERTY TAX FUND, WHICH
12:03:13AM ARE USED TO SUPPORT THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING BUDGET AND
12:03:16AM THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT -- FUNDS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:03:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
12:03:22AM MIRANDA.
12:03:23AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:03:24AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:03:26AM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
12:03:28AM ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION?
12:03:29AM ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS MOTION?
12:03:33AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:03:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:03:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:03:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
12:03:42AM >>LUIS VIERA: QUESTION.
12:03:44AM I VOTED AGAINST SETTING THIS MILL.
12:03:47AM I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS MILL.
12:03:50AM VOTING NO.
12:04:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, WHAT'S YOUR VOTE?
12:04:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO SAY NO.
12:04:16AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
12:04:17AM I DIDN'T THINK WE COULD DO THAT.
12:04:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:04:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:04:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:04:24AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSED WITH HENDERSON AND VIERA VOTING
12:04:27AM NO.
12:04:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:04:28AM NEXT UP, AND IT SHOULD BE COMING TO US SHORTLY.
12:04:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
12:04:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'LL GIVE US A BRAND-NEW ONE.
12:04:47AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WILL READ THIS NEW ORDINANCE WHICH WILL
12:04:49AM BE COMING TO YOU SHORTLY.
12:05:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS DIFFERENT -- MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU
12:05:32AM COULD JUST RECOGNIZE MR. MASSEY.
12:05:36AM HE JUST WANTS TO EXPLAIN HOW THIS ORDINANCE IS DIFFERENT
12:05:38AM THAN THE ONE THAT IS IN SIRE.
12:05:41AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE ORDINANCE IN SIRE HAS THE MILLAGE RATE
12:05:44AM AS PROPOSED BY THE MAYOR.
12:05:45AM THIS IS REVISED TO SHOW THE MILLAGE RATE AS YOU JUST ADOPTED
12:05:49AM THE 6.2076 MILLS, AND IT ALSO STATES IN SECTION ONE THAT IT
12:05:54AM IS BASED ON THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED BY THE MAYOR AS AMENDED
12:05:57AM BY YOU ALL.
12:05:58AM SO THIS WILL BE BASED ON THE BUDGET THAT IS AMENDED BY
12:06:01AM ACTION OF YOU AT THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET.
12:06:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MASSEY, IT SAYS HERE RATE AND
12:06:09AM MILLAGE 6.5076.
12:06:13AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WELL, THEN, WE HAVE A MISTAKE.
12:06:15AM THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
12:06:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU READ THE CORRECT MILLAGE.
12:06:24AM THIS IS THE ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE BUDGET.
12:06:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECTION 3, SAYS IT IN TWO, THREE PLACES
12:06:30AM THERE.
12:06:37AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU'VE GOT THE WRONG ONE.
12:06:39AM WE HAVE TO GO BACK.
12:06:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S MAKE SURE IT'S CORRECT.
12:06:54AM >> DO YOU WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER BREAK?
12:06:58AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: CITY COUNCIL, CAN WE TAKE ANOTHER
12:07:00AM FIVE-MINUTE BREAK?
12:07:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: INSTEAD OF TAKING A BREAK, CAN WE CHAT ABOUT
12:07:05AM OTHER THINGS WHILE YOU GUYS DO THAT?
12:07:07AM I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I'D
12:07:30AM LIKE TO TALK ABOUT WHILE THEY ARE TRYING TO PRINT.
12:07:34AM MS. SHARP.
12:07:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
12:07:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AS WE'RE LOOKING AT PLACES TO CUT, I JUST
12:07:45AM WANTED TO PRINT THIS OUT TO LET PEOPLE KNOW -- I JUST WANTED
12:07:58AM TO SHOW POSITION GROWTH.
12:08:02AM CAN YOU PASS THOSE ON?
12:08:04AM YEAH.
12:08:07AM POSITION GROWTH SINCE 2002, WE HAVE INCREASED AND THEY WANT
12:08:12AM TO INCREASE, BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE, THEY ARE LOOKING AT
12:08:15AM 4,913 PEOPLE.
12:08:18AM AND WE STARTED IN 2020 WITH 4,666 PEOPLE, THAT IS AN
12:08:23AM INCREASE OF 247 PEOPLE.
12:08:25AM THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.
12:08:26AM AGAIN, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T MOVE THINGS AROUND.
12:08:32AM I'M JUST SAYING THAT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT INCREASING
12:08:35AM POSITIONS, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
12:08:38AM WHEN YOU ALL ARE GOING BACK AND DOING YOUR CUTS, I REALLY
12:08:41AM WANT YOU TO TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION, AND THEN I WOULD
12:08:45AM REALLY RECOMMEND THAT EVERYBODY BRING EITHER THEIR PAPER OR
12:08:49AM THEIR COMPUTERS SO THAT WE CAN SIMPLY ASK THE QUESTIONS
12:08:53AM RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'LL BE ABLE TO
12:08:56AM DO UNLESS ALL OF US WANT TO PRINT OUT SCREEN SHOTS.
12:09:01AM IT'S JUST DIFFICULT, AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A LONG
12:09:04AM MEETING.
12:09:05AM I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT THE
12:09:10AM PUBLIC HAS TO SAY ABOUT POSSIBLE CUTS, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE
12:09:14AM PUBLIC HAS ASKED US TO DO, AND I FEEL REALLY STRONGLY THAT
12:09:18AM THIS IS OUR JOB.
12:09:20AM MS. SHARP, DID YOU SHOW THAT?
12:09:22AM I'M SORRY.
12:09:24AM IT'S LATE, I DIDN'T LOOK.
12:09:27AM I JUST WANTED TO SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE AND JUST ENCOURAGE
12:09:32AM PEOPLE TO DIVE IN.
12:09:37AM OH, I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. PERRY.
12:09:47AM >> GOOD EVENING.
12:09:48AM MIKE PERRY, BUDGET OFFICER.
12:09:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:09:51AM I NOTICED THAT WHEN I WENT TO THE FY 2024 TOTAL BUDGET ON
12:09:58AM THE COMPUTER AND THEN I GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM,
12:10:01AM IT HAS GC-MIKE'S FORECAST.
12:10:04AM WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN YOUR BUDGET AND THE ACTUAL
12:10:08AM CITY BUDGET?
12:10:10AM >> NOTHING.
12:10:11AM THE GC FORECAST IS A MECHANISM THAT ONE OF THE ANALYSTS IN
12:10:17AM MY OFFICE USED TO RECONCILE BETWEEN OUR WORKING DOCUMENTS
12:10:22AM AND WHAT'S IN THE BUDGET.
12:10:23AM THAT REFLECTS THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND THE UTILITY TAX
12:10:27AM BUDGET.
12:10:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.
12:10:30AM WHEN I GO UP TO THE TOTAL BUDGET, THE TOTAL BUDGET SHOWS 2.4
12:10:38AM BILLION, BUT THE OPERATING BUDGET SHOWS 1.9 BILLION.
12:10:43AM BEFORE WE GET INTO IT, I JUST THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD
12:10:46AM QUESTION TO HAVE ALL OF US KNOW THE ANSWER TO SO WE KNOW
12:10:50AM WHICH BUDGET IS BEST FOR US TO LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING
12:10:52AM FOR CUTS.
12:10:54AM >> THE GROSS BUDGET AT $2.4 BILLION IS THE BUDGET THAT GETS
12:10:59AM ADOPTED.
12:11:00AM NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE VARIOUS FUNDS, YOU HAVE THE GENERAL
12:11:03AM FUND, YOU GOT THE HEALTH CARE FUND, THE RISK FUNDS, YOU GOT
12:11:08AM FLEET FUNDS AND YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF INTERFUND TRANSFERS, WE
12:11:13AM ELIMINATE THOSE DOUBLE COUNTS TO GIVE YOU WHAT A TRUE NET
12:11:17AM EXPENDITURE BUDGET IS OF 1.9.
12:11:20AM SO WE'RE COVERING ABOUT HALF A BILLION DOLLARS OF INTERFUND
12:11:24AM TRANSFERS IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE GENERAL ACCOUNTING
12:11:31AM STANDARDS BOARD AND GOOD BUDGETING PRACTICES.
12:11:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AREAS TO FIND MONEY,
12:11:40AM WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE OPERATING BUDGET AND NOT THE
12:11:43AM TOTAL BUDGET, CORRECT?
12:11:44AM >> I WOULD CONCENTRATE ON THE NET BUDGET OF 1.9.
12:11:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE OPERATING BUDGET.
12:11:49AM >> YES, MA'AM.
12:11:50AM YOU'RE NOT EVEN REALLY LOOKING AT THE 1.9 BECAUSE THE ONLY
12:11:54AM BUDGETS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY THE MILLAGE RATE RIGHT NOW IS
12:11:57AM THE GENERAL FUND AND UTILITY SERVICES TAX FUND.
12:12:00AM ONCE YOU DO THAT THEN, OF COURSE, THOSE REVENUES, WHATEVER
12:12:05AM THE NET REVENUE IS, THAT FLOWS OUT INTO THE DEBT SERVICE
12:12:10AM FUNDS AND THE CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION FUNDS AND THE BOND FUND.
12:12:13AM BASED ON YOUR DECISIONS, IT WILL MOVE THROUGH THE BUDGETS.
12:12:19AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PARKING, DON'T HAVE TO WORRY
12:12:21AM ABOUT WATER, DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
12:12:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WATER, WASTEWATER, PARKING.
12:12:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHY DON'T WE DO IT NOW?
12:12:31AM WE'RE ALL RIGHT HERE.
12:12:34AM GET SOME COFFEE AND DO IT RIGHT NOW.
12:12:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
12:12:37AM AND THAT'S IT.
12:12:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOVE YOUR ENTHUSIASM.
12:12:44AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE -- BEFORE WE HAVE THE
12:12:48AM ORDINANCE -- MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
12:12:54AM WHILE I HAND OUT THIS ORDINANCE, JUST A REMINDER THAT YOU
12:12:57AM OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BOTH NUMBERS 1 AND 2.
12:13:00AM I'M PASSING OUT THE ORDINANCE FOR NUMBER ONE.
12:13:03AM JUST A REMINDER THAT PART OF THIS IS ALSO THE PUBLIC HEARING
12:13:06AM THAT YOU HEARD TONIGHT, ALSO INCLUDED THE CAPITAL
12:13:09AM IMPROVEMENT BUDGET FOR FY 2024.
12:13:12AM IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS THEY WANT TO ASK ABOUT THAT
12:13:14AM TONIGHT, THIS IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNE TIME.
12:13:17AM OTHERWISE IT ALL ENCOMPASSES AS YOU MOVING FORWARD AFTER YOU
12:13:20AM READ THE ORDINANCE.
12:13:22AM NOT ONLY HAVE YOU TAKEN PUBLIC COMMENT ON ONE BUT ALSO TWO.
12:13:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CURIOUSLY, WE STILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO AMEND
12:13:35AM THAT BUDGET.
12:13:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHICH BUDGET?
12:13:37AM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT?
12:13:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
12:13:42AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET WILL NOT BE
12:13:45AM APPROVED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 19 WHEN YOU ARE AT THE SECOND.
12:13:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PARAGRAPH THEY ADDED IN HERE -- THE
12:13:58AM PARAGRAPH THEY ADDED.
12:14:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PARAGRAPH ONE IS THE ONE WE ADJUSTED AND
12:14:05AM ALSO ADJUSTED THE MILLAGE RATE.
12:14:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: PARAGRAPH ONE SAYS IT MAKES IT SUBJECT TO
12:14:09AM AMENDMENT BY CITY COUNCIL.
12:14:12AM THAT WAS THE CHANGE THAT THEY MADE.
12:14:15AM BECAUSE BEFORE, THE ORIGINAL VERSION WE GOT EARLIER TODAY
12:14:18AM SAID THAT WE WERE APPROVING THE MAYOR'S BUDGET AS IS.
12:14:21AM THIS SAYS WE'RE APPROVING IT SUBJECT TO AMENDMENT BY CITY
12:14:25AM COUNCIL.
12:14:25AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT'S CORRECT, MR. CARLSON.
12:14:27AM TO QUICKLY GO OVER THE CHANGES, PARAGRAPH ONE, IT MAKES IT
12:14:31AM CLEAR THAT THE BUDGET BEING APPROVED BY YOU ALL IS WHAT WAS
12:14:34AM PRESENTED BY THE MAYOR AS AMENDED BY YOU ALL.
12:14:38AM IT'S NOT THE BUDGET THAT WAS PRESENTED BY THE MAYOR.
12:14:40AM IT INCLUDES ANY CHANGES THAT YOU ALL APPROVE TO THE BUDGET.
12:14:43AM ULTIMATELY AT THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN IN
12:14:47AM ADDITION, IT CHANGES THE MILLAGE RATE TO WHAT YOU ALL
12:14:51AM APPROVED THIS EVENING.
12:14:52AM THOSE ARE THE TWO MATERIAL CHANGES.
12:14:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE
12:14:57AM TO GO AHEAD AND READ.
12:14:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE BUDGET OF
12:15:02AM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER
12:15:04AM 1, 2023 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2024, PROVIDING FOR THE
12:15:09AM LEVY AS PROVIDED BY THE LAW OF A TAX ON ALL TAXABLE
12:15:16AM PROPERTIES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND FIXING THE MILLAGE RATE
12:15:18AM WITHIN SAID CITY; MAKING APPROPRIATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH
12:15:22AM THE PROVISIONS OF SAID BUDGET; AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE
12:15:26AM MAYOR AND CITY CLERK AS THE PROPER AUTHORITIES OF THE CITY
12:15:29AM OF TAMPA TO CERTIFY TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF
12:15:35AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, THE MILLAGE TO BE LEVIED FOR
12:15:39AM ALL PURPOSES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
12:15:42AM FLORIDA, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
12:15:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:15:46AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:15:48AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:15:53AM >>THE CLERK: HENDERSON?
12:15:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
12:15:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: EXPLAIN MY VOTE.
12:15:59AM TEN SECONDS.
12:16:00AM I'M VOTING YES.
12:16:01AM VOTED NO ON THE MILLAGE.
12:16:02AM I SUPPORT EVERYTHING IN THE BUDGET.
12:16:05AM THIS IS FOR THE BUDGET, YES.
12:16:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:16:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:16:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:16:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:16:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:16:15AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSES WITH HENDERSON VOTING NO.
12:16:17AM SECOND HEARING TO BE HELD SEPTEMBER 19, 2023 AT 5:01 P.M.
12:16:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR,
12:16:27AM OLD CITY HALL, TAMPA, FLORIDA, UNITED STATES.
12:16:33AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:16:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: THESE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT BUT
12:16:37AM GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC, HOPEFULLY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY IN THE
12:16:41AM END.
12:16:42AM I HOPE THAT WE CAN WORK COLLABORATIVELY IN THE NEXT TWO
12:16:46AM WEEKS TO TRY TO FIGURE ALL THIS OUT.
12:16:48AM NOW WE ARE WHERE WE ARE.
12:16:51AM AS MORRIS SAID EARLIER, WE CAN'T GO UP FROM HERE.
12:16:54AM SO NOW WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME POSITION SO WE CAN ALL START A
12:16:59AM BIG FIGHT IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS OR WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER
12:17:02AM AND SAY HOW DO WE PROTECT THOSE FIVE THINGS WE ALL SAID ARE
12:17:06AM IMPORTANT.
12:17:07AM AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THE HELP.
12:17:09AM I WAS TALKING TO DR. CHIEF BERCAW ON THE WAY OUT, FIRE
12:17:14AM CHIEF, FIRE UNION, I WOULD APPRECIATE ALL STAFF NOW WORKING,
12:17:18AM LET'S ALL WORK ON THE SAME SIDE AND TRY TO GET THIS DONE SO
12:17:23AM WE CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT THAT REALLY PROTECTS OUR
12:17:26AM COMMUNITY AND DOES THE BEST THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
12:17:29AM IF YOU ALL BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE A MILL INCREASE OR
12:17:32AM SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE, LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER TO TRY TO
12:17:35AM REALLY MAKE SURE WE'RE BEING EFFICIENT ABOUT THE MONEY WE
12:17:37AM HAVE.
12:17:38AM ALSO, OUR BUDGET COMMITTEE AND COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND
12:17:43AM OTHERS HAVE ASKED FOR INFORMATION, LIKE WHAT IS OTHER --
12:17:47AM WHAT ARE THE GENERAL AREAS, THE BIG BUCKETS, ANY SCHEDULES
12:17:50AM THAT YOU ALL HAVE LIKE THAT, IF YOU COULD DISTRIBUTE TO ALL
12:17:53AM OF US, THE FASTER WE DISSEMINATE ALL THE DETAILED
12:17:56AM INFORMATION, THE FASTER WE CAN ALL GET TO A SOLUTION.
12:17:59AM THANKS, EVERYBODY.
12:18:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:18:03AM I'M CONSIDERING A MOTION THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT
12:18:14AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON REQUESTED LAST WEEK, WHICH WAS A BUDGET,
12:18:17AM NOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE MILL, IF WE COULD GET A BUDGET
12:18:24AM THAT THE STAFF WOULD, WHERE THEY WOULD FIND THE CUTS.
12:18:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S OUR JOB, ISN'T IT?
12:18:33AM YOU CAN'T PUT THE ONUS BACK ON THEM.
12:18:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE CORRECT.
12:18:38AM I WILL JUST SAY THAT I HOPE THAT WE ALL WORK REALLY HARD.
12:18:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEP.
12:18:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT TRYING TO GET INVOLVED BETWEEN
12:18:49AM TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE THE SAME VIEW, BUT I REALLY
12:18:52AM BELIEVE WE SHOULD AT LEAST ASK FOR THE INFORMATION.
12:18:57AM IF NOT, YOU'LL BE HERE MUCH LONGER.
12:18:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY DID.
12:19:00AM THEY GAVE YOU THE BUDGET WITH THE MILL.
12:19:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LOOK AT THE FACE, THAT'S NOT WHAT THE
12:19:06AM FACES ARE TELLING ME.
12:19:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: REDUCED MILLAGE OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK
12:19:11AM LIKE, THEY DIDN'T --
12:19:13AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
12:19:16AM THE CHARTER MAKES IT VERY CLEAR THAT THE MAYOR PRESENTS A
12:19:19AM BUDGET TO THE COUNCIL AND THEN THE COUNCIL MAKES AMENDMENTS
12:19:21AM TO THE BUDGET.
12:19:23AM FLORIDA STATUTE SECTION 200.65C, I BELIEVE, ALSO SAYS THAT
12:19:31AM THE GOVERNING BODY AMENDS THE BUDGET, WHICH ISN'T TO SAY
12:19:37AM THAT STAFF CAN'T WORK WITH YOU, BUT YOU CAN'T JUST TURN IT
12:19:43AM BACK AND SAY YOU ALL AMEND THE BUDGET AND BRING IT BACK TO
12:19:46AM US.
12:19:47AM THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS UNDER THE STATUTE.
12:19:49AM NOT HOW IT'S EVER WORKED, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
12:19:53AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
12:19:56AM I WANT TO PROFESS WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED UP HERE, I'M
12:19:59AM COMMITTED TO HAVE 100% OF OUR DIRECTORS HERE AND OUR
12:20:02AM ADMINISTRATORS TO HELP SUPPORT YOU WITH WHATEVER YOU WANT TO
12:20:04AM TALK THROUGH ON TUESDAY.
12:20:06AM ALL I ASK IS CONSIDER THEIR OPERATIONAL INPUT AND THEIR
12:20:11AM EXPERTISE IN SOME OF THE CUTS THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING.
12:20:15AM THAT'S ALL.
12:20:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:20:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH YOU, CITY ATTORNEY, ABOUT THE
12:20:25AM CHARTER THING.
12:20:26AM BUT THE REALITY IS THAT ALTHOUGH THE STAFF REPORT TO THE
12:20:32AM MAYOR, WE RELY ON THE STAFF ALSO BECAUSE THESE ARE THEIR
12:20:35AM DEPARTMENTS.
12:20:36AM ALL I'M ASKING, I'M NOT ASKING TO DO OUR JOB FOR US.
12:20:41AM I ASK THEM TO THINK IT THROUGH.
12:20:43AM INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE BIG MEETING WITH ALL, LIKE WHEN WE MET
12:20:46AM WITH THE MAYOR, ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE THERE, SO WE
12:20:49AM DIDN'T REALLY GET THE INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS, ANY
12:20:52AM DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT HAS SPECIFIC IDEAS, I'M OPEN TO ANY
12:20:56AM IDEAS YOU HAVE.
12:20:57AM I'VE GOT MY OWN IDEAS AND HEARING IDEAS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
12:21:00AM IF YOU HAVE IDEAS AND THOUGHTS, PLEASE CALL ME.
12:21:02AM I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU, TALK WITH YOU AND LISTEN.
12:21:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS GETS REALLY SCARY BECAUSE ONE OF THE
12:21:11AM PRIMARY THINGS SAID ON THE DAIS TODAY IS THERE IS AN ISSUE
12:21:15AM WITH HIGH-WAGE SALARIES, TOO MANY EMPLOYEES, AND I JUST
12:21:20AM THINK THAT YOU ALL WOULD BE PUTTING YOURSELF IN A VERY
12:21:23AM PRECARIOUS POSITION BY NOW PRESENTING OR SUGGESTING
12:21:30AM SUPPORTING ANYTHING REGARDING THE EMPLOYMENT OF OUR CITY
12:21:35AM EMPLOYEES.
12:21:36AM I JUST THINK THAT IS A VERY FINE LINE AND I DON'T TRUST IT.
12:21:40AM I JUST DON'T THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA.
12:21:44AM THE COUNCIL VOTED FOR THE MILLAGE AS IT IS, AND SO IT SHOULD
12:21:50AM BE A PART OF PUBLIC RECORD ANY CUT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OR
12:21:55AM YOUR INPUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
12:22:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
12:22:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY BRIEFLY.
12:22:03AM MY ATTITUDE ON THIS IS THIS, I VOTED TO PRESERVE PART OF THE
12:22:07AM MILLAGE SO WE COULD HAVE A SAFETY NET, ESPECIALLY FOR PUBLIC
12:22:10AM SAFETY, THAT'S IMPORTANT.
12:22:11AM BUT I'M HERE TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY.
12:22:13AM I'M NOT HERE TO SAY YOU BROKE IT, YOU BOUGHT IT.
12:22:16AM I'M HERE TO WORK WITH THE SIX PERSONS ON THE CITY COUNCIL TO
12:22:20AM MAKE SURE THE PRIORITIES, I'M NOT HERE TO TELL ANYBODY, HEY,
12:22:24AM YOU DID THIS, SO I'LL DO THIS.
12:22:26AM I WANT TO WORK WITH EVERYBODY HERE TO MAKE SURE WE PROTECT
12:22:28AM THE PRIORITIES THAT WE ALL SUPPORT AND I'M COMMITTED TO
12:22:31AM THAT.
12:22:32AM SO WE HAVE THE THINGS THAT WE SUPPORT.
12:22:35AM AGAIN, I THINK WE'VE NARROWED THE WAY OF GETTING THERE.
12:22:39AM I'LL WORK WITH EVERYBODY ON GETTING THERE THROUGH THAT
12:22:42AM NARROW MEANS.
12:22:43AM THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO DO AND I WILL DO THAT.
12:22:45AM I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYBODY ON THAT.
12:22:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:22:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO DO ONE THING TO CLARIFY FOR
12:22:53AM FOLKS.
12:22:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT IT ON THE SCREEN?
12:22:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO BECAUSE I NEED TO LOOK AT IT, TOO.
12:22:59AM INITIALLY WITH THE 7.2, WE WERE GOING TO GET 45 MILLION.
12:23:02AM WITHOUT THE MILL AT 6.2, WE'RE ALREADY GETTING 35 MILLION.
12:23:07AM LIKE, THAT'S ALREADY DONE.
12:23:10AM NOW, MINUS 9 MILLION FOR CRA, THAT GIVES US 26 MILLION.
12:23:14AM IF YOU TAKE 45 MINUS 26, YOU GET 19.
12:23:19AM WE NEED TO CUT ONLY $19 MILLION OUT OF A $1.9 BILLION
12:23:24AM BUDGET, THAT IS 1%.
12:23:27AM WE CAN DO THAT.
12:23:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO, IS THAT TRUE?
12:23:31AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO, THAT'S NOT ACCURATE.
12:23:32AM THE ABSENCE OF ANY MILLAGE INCREASE, AS YOU SAID
12:23:36AM COUNCILWOMAN, YIELDED ABOUT $25 MILLION FOR THE GENERAL
12:23:38AM FUND.
12:23:39AM THE ADDITIONAL MILLAGE INCREASE NETTED AN ADDITIONAL 45
12:23:44AM MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
12:23:46AM SO CUMULATIVELY THE $70 MILLION.
12:24:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SALARIES ABSORBED ALL OF THAT INCREASE IN
12:24:11AM REVENUE.
12:24:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS NOT AT ALL WHAT I WAS GIVEN.
12:24:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:24:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME.
12:24:19AM I'M PUTTING MY TWO CENTS IN JUST AS YOUR ATTORNEY JUST TO
12:24:24AM LET YOU KNOW THAT WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE TONIGHT, THIS IS
12:24:26AM FIXED.
12:24:27AM THAT WAS MADE CLEAR TO YOU BY STAFF.
12:24:30AM IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY DOUBTS THAT NEED TO BE
12:24:33AM RESOLVED, THEY NEED TO BE RESOLVED TONIGHT BECAUSE WHEN YOU
12:24:37AM WALK OUT OF THIS ROOM THAT BECOMES YOUR CAP.
12:24:40AM PLEASE, AS YOUR ATTORNEY, I'M ASKING YOU TO LEAVE WITH THE
12:24:43AM CONFIDENCE THAT AS YOU MOVE FORWARD YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TASK
12:24:46AM AHEAD OF YOU IS.
12:24:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL MAKE ONE MORE PLEA AND I WON'T BE ONE
12:24:52AM TO ASK FOR REOPENING.
12:24:54AM AS OUR COUNSEL JUST ADVISED, WE TIE OUR HAND WITHOUT ALL OF
12:24:58AM THE FACTS BEFORE US TONIGHT AND THESE FACTS WE JUST
12:25:02AM SCHEDULED AND THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, FOR SUGGESTING
12:25:04AM THE WORKSHOP MEETING NEXT WEEK.
12:25:06AM WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO THE SAME BODY AND WE HAVE THE
12:25:09AM ABILITY TO GET EXACTLY BACK TO WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IF WE
12:25:12AM CHOOSE TO AFTER WE HEAR ALL THE FACTS NEXT WEDNESDAY.
12:25:16AM BUT I DON'T REALLY SEE THE WISDOM IN BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF
12:25:20AM THE CITY OF TAMPA BY TYING OUR HANDS WITHOUT GETTING STAFF
12:25:24AM TO COME BACK AND PROVIDING ALL THE ACCURATE DATA FOR ALL OF
12:25:27AM THOSE VERY VALID QUESTIONS THAT WE ALL HAVE ABOUT THE
12:25:31AM BUDGET.
12:25:32AM I REALLY THINK, AGAIN, I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER, IF
12:25:37AM SOMEBODY -- I WOULD DEFINITELY ENTERTAIN VOTING WITH THEM IF
12:25:41AM SOMEBODY WANTED TO ENTERTAIN REOPENING THIS AND GIVING US
12:25:44AM THE LATITUDE TO GATHER THE FACTS AND THEN MAKING THAT
12:25:47AM DECISION.
12:25:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DIDN'T EVEN GET A SECOND ON MY MOTION.
12:25:54AM I WENT THERE AND DID THAT.
12:25:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:26:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
12:26:01AM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:26:04AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER -- WE'RE DONE.
12:26:09AM OH, YOU HAVE A MOTION.
12:26:12AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
12:26:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR A WHILE.
12:26:18AM BEEN MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES.
12:26:21AM PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEE, IMPACT ON ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS OF
12:26:25AM PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES.
12:26:28AM ACCORDING TO NEW STATISTICS ABOUT 150 PEOPLE MOVING INTO THE
12:26:31AM CITY OF TAMPA ON A DAILY BASIS.
12:26:34AM ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE NEED PLACES TO LIVE AND WHEREVER NEW
12:26:38AM DEVELOPMENT ARE BUILT THE PROJECTS PAY SOME KIND OF IMPACT
12:26:41AM FEE FOR WATER, FOR SEWER, FOR TRANSPORTATION, FOR
12:26:44AM STORMWATER, FOR SIDEWALKS AND FOR SCHOOLS.
12:26:47AM WHY IS IT THERE IS NOT AN IMPACT FEE FOR PUBLIC SAFETY?
12:26:53AM ALL THE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE HAVE AN IMPACT ON NUMBER OF CALLS
12:26:56AM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT RECEIVE AND WE
12:26:58AM CAN'T KEEP BUILDING WITHOUT ADDRESSING THE INCREASE IN
12:27:00AM DEMAND OF PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS.
12:27:04AM I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE CHIEF OF STAFF, THE LEGAL
12:27:07AM DEPARTMENT TO REPORT TO US, I SAID TWO WEEKS --
12:27:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEPTEMBER 21st.
12:27:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS THAT TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY?
12:27:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS THE NEXT REGULAR.
12:27:20AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I REPORTED TO YOU ALL FOUR TIMES ON THIS.
12:27:24AM YOU CAN DO IT.
12:27:25AM BUT WE HAVE TO ENGAGE A CONSULTANT TO DO A STUDY WITH THE
12:27:33AM MOST RECENT DATA AVAILABLE IN ORDER TO ADOPT THE FEE, AND WE
12:27:37AM HAVE TO DO A DEMONSTRATED NEEDS ANALYSIS AND THERE HAS TO BE
12:27:41AM TWO PUBLIC WORKSHOPS.
12:27:42AM THERE IS A WHOLE PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH.
12:27:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW MUCH TIME DO WE NEED?
12:27:47AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS TO
12:27:49AM ACTUALLY GET EVERYTHING DONE.
12:27:52AM YOU CAN ASK FOR AN UPDATE I THINK FROM THE ADMINISTRATION
12:27:55AM ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT OF A CONSULTANT TO START THE STUDIES
12:27:58AM THAT ARE NECESSARY TO --
12:28:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ISN'T THAT WHAT YOUR MOTION SAYS, PROCESS
12:28:03AM FOR IMPOSING --
12:28:05AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I HAVE ALREADY GIVEN YOU THE PROCESS ABOUT
12:28:08AM FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES.
12:28:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MR. MASSEY.
12:28:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK WHAT YOUR MOTION SHOULD BE, MR.
12:28:16AM MASSEY, WOULD YOU RECOMMEND HIS MOTION TO BE COME BACK WITH
12:28:20AM A ROAD MAP OR A TIMELINE RECOMMENDED BY THE STAFF TO
12:28:24AM IMPLEMENT WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR?
12:28:25AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YOU COULD ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO
12:28:27AM THAT.
12:28:28AM I DON'T WANT IT DIRECTED TO LEGAL BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY GIVEN
12:28:30AM YOU MY ADVICE.
12:28:32AM IT NEEDS TO BE DIRECTED TO STAFF.
12:28:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CHIEF OF STAFF
12:28:36AM AND LEGAL DEPARTMENT REPORT TO COUNCIL IN TWO WEEKS THE
12:28:39AM AVENUES OF WHICH WE SHOULD TAKE AND HOW TO DO IT AND WHO TO
12:28:45AM DO IT WITH THE CITY'S ABILITY FOR IMPOSING A PUBLIC SAFETY
12:28:49AM IMPACT FEE.
12:28:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEPTEMBER 21st UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
12:28:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:28:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA,
12:28:55AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:28:58AM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:29:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL VOTE FOR THIS.
12:29:04AM WE'VE ALREADY BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS.
12:29:06AM AGAIN, THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
12:29:07AM WE COULD HAVE MOVED ON IT TWO YEARS AGO.
12:29:10AM WHEN IT COMES TO PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING, TO ME THIS IS A
12:29:15AM CHICKEN NUGGET, AND I WANTED A McRIB.
12:29:18AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: QUITE FRANKLY, TONIGHT IS SUPPOSED TO
12:29:18AM REALLY BE ABOUT THE BUDGET.
12:29:19AM SO MAYBE IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO MAKE THIS MOTION ON
12:29:21AM THURSDAY OF THIS WEEK.
12:29:23AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL HOLD IT.
12:29:26AM I WITHDRAW THE MOTION AT THIS TIME.
12:29:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCIL
12:29:30AM MEMBER CARLSON.
12:29:31AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:29:32AM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:29:33AM AYE.
12:29:34AM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
12:29:36AM WAIT.
12:29:36AM MOVE TO REOPEN THE MEETING.
12:29:41AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TAKE ROLL CALL.
12:29:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE A ROLL CALL.
12:29:47AM MIRANDA AND CLENDENIN SECONDED.
12:29:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:30:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:30:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:30:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:30:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:30:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
12:30:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:30:08AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
12:30:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MR. ROGERO.
12:30:13AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
12:30:14AM I APOLOGIZE COUNCIL.
12:30:16AM NOT MY INTENT TO KEEP YOU HERE ANY LATER THAN NECESSARY.
12:30:19AM I HAVE THREE OUTSTANDING MOTIONS I AM TO RESPOND TO YOU THIS
12:30:23AM EVENING.
12:30:23AM IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE IF YOU WANT IT THIS EVENING OR
12:30:26AM ANOTHER TIME.
12:30:27AM FIRST MOTION, COUNCIL REQUESTED A BUDGET ANALYST POSITION
12:30:30AM FOR CITY COUNCIL IN THE FISCAL YEAR '24 BUDGET.
12:30:33AM WE'VE SPOKEN EARLIER ABOUT THIS.
12:30:34AM AFTER SPEAKING TO THE MOTION MAKER WE FEEL A FUNDING AMOUNT
12:30:38AM OF ABOUT $160,000 WOULD BE MORE THAN AMPLE TO EITHER
12:30:42AM PROPERLY STAFF AND EQUIP FOR THIS FUNCTION OR AS HAS BEEN
12:30:47AM ALSO DISCUSSED, CONTRACTING WITH AN OUTSIDE PROVIDER FOR
12:30:51AM YOUR ANALYTIC DUTIES.
12:30:53AM I PRESUME IF COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH THAT --
12:30:58AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: $160,000.
12:31:01AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
12:31:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO INCLUDE A BUDGET OF $160,000 FOR
12:31:05AM BUDGET ANALYST FOR TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND I WOULD BE WILLING
12:31:08AM TO DISCUSS THAT, THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT.
12:31:11AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE WILL PLACE THAT IN THE CITY COUNCIL
12:31:13AM ADMINISTRATION BUDGET.
12:31:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN --
12:31:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THE MOTION,
12:31:21AM BUT I CAN TELL YOU, MR. ROBINSON IS HERE, HE CAN TELL YOU, I
12:31:24AM HAD TWO OF THEM TWICE, ONE I TRANSFERRED TO THE FINANCE
12:31:28AM DEPARTMENT AND THE OTHER HAD TO GET RID OF BECAUSE HE WAS
12:31:31AM ASLEEP BACK THERE IN THE ROOM.
12:31:34AM MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO HIRE A FIRM, OUTSIDE FIRM TO COME
12:31:39AM AND WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE THAT WE SET UP FOR
12:31:43AM THE BUDGET COMMITTEE TO REPORT TO US BOTH TIMES AND DO THE
12:31:48AM REVIEW.
12:31:49AM IF NOT, WHERE IS THE OFFICE?
12:31:51AM HERE, THERE?
12:31:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE DEVIL IS ALWAYS IN THE DETAILS.
12:31:56AM THIS IS A PLACE-HOLDER IN THE BUDGET THAT PROVIDES US THE
12:31:59AM LATITUDE AND WE CAN WORK ON THOSE DETAILS.
12:32:01AM THAT IS THE CEILING.
12:32:06AM IF IT WAS A FULL-FLEDGED FTE, FULL BURDEN ON THE BUDGET, BUT
12:32:11AM IF WE WANTED TO GO THROUGH A CONTRACT, IF WE WANTED, IT JUST
12:32:16AM GIVES US THE LATITUDE FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION.
12:32:19AM THIS IS A PLACE-HOLDER IN THE BUDGET THAT GIVES US THE
12:32:21AM LATITUDE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
12:32:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN HAS A MOTION.
12:32:28AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
12:32:28AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
12:32:32AM IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?
12:32:33AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, THERE IS.
12:32:35AM CAN YOU CLARIFY, SO THIS $160,000 IS FOR ONE -- THIS IS FOR
12:32:48AM ONE FTE FULL TIME?
12:32:50AM WE'VE HAD ONE IN THE PAST AND IT'S BEEN A YEAR-ROUND PERSON
12:32:55AM FOR 40 HOURS A WEEK, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MR.
12:32:58AM MIRANDA?
12:33:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:33:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT OTHER OPTIONS?
12:33:03AM CAN A UNIVERSITY LOOK AT OUR BUDGET?
12:33:05AM DOES IT HAVE TO BE ONE PERSON?
12:33:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION, CAN I RESPOND
12:33:11AM TO THAT?
12:33:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID.
12:33:14AM IT'S SO SURPRISING THAT YOU LANDED -- HOW DID YOU LAND AT
12:33:19AM $160,000 IS THE BETTER QUESTION?
12:33:21AM WE HAD ISSUE ON THIS DAIS WITH THE ENERGY EFFICIENT AND
12:33:28AM CARBON ANALYSIS AT 32,000.
12:33:31AM THE MAYOR ASKED FOR ADVISOR FOR 160,000 AND WE HAD ISSUE
12:33:35AM WITH IT.
12:33:36AM NOW WE'LL HAVE A BUDGET ANALYST PERSON THAT WE PAY $160,000.
12:33:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS A MAKER OF THE MOTION I DON'T WANT TO
12:33:42AM PUT STAFF, BECAUSE THIS IS A COUNCIL POSITION AND COUNCIL
12:33:46AM DECISION.
12:33:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO GO ON RECORD THE ADVISOR TO THE
12:33:53AM MAYOR WAS $160,000.
12:33:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: APPLES AND ORANGES.
12:33:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU CANNOT INTERRUPT ME WHEN I'M TALKING.
12:34:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT YOU'RE ASKING HIM.
12:34:04AM YOU NEED TO ASK ME BECAUSE I AM THE ONE WHO INTRODUCED THIS.
12:34:08AM HE HIGHLIGHTED THE MOTION THAT I HAD PROPOSED.
12:34:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS THAT ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, CHAIR
12:34:14AM MARTIN?
12:34:15AM CAN YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THAT?
12:34:16AM AM I ALLOWED TO CONVERSE REGARDING THIS MATTER IN WHICH I
12:34:23AM CHOOSE?
12:34:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
12:34:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AM I PERMITTED TO DO THAT?
12:34:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, ARE YOU DIRECTING A QUESTION OR
12:34:34AM MAKING A STATEMENT TO COUNCIL AND STAFF?
12:34:36AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DURING PUBLIC COMMENT -- NOT PUBLIC
12:34:38AM COMMENT BUT DURING DISCUSSION I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY WHAT I
12:34:41AM WANT HOWEVER I WANT TO SAY IT.
12:34:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WHEN YOU
12:34:45AM ARE FINISHED WITH THE FLOOR, THE MAKER OF THE MOTION MAY
12:34:49AM WANT TO RESPOND.
12:34:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EXACTLY, HE CAN GO AFTER I GET DONE.
12:34:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APOLOGIZE.
12:35:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, YOUR REBUTTAL.
12:35:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
12:35:06AM AGAIN, IT WAS SOMETHING I HEARD FROM THIS COUNCIL ON SO MANY
12:35:09AM OCCASIONS FOR SO LONG ABOUT THE NEED AND NOW OBVIOUSLY BEING
12:35:13AM HANDED A 2.4 OR $1.9 BILLION BUDGET, DEPENDING ON HOW WE'RE
12:35:18AM LOOKING AT IT, AS BRIGHT AS WE ALL ARE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
12:35:24AM REAL MONEY, AND THIS BUDGET IS COMPLICATED, AS I THINK NEXT
12:35:28AM WEDNESDAY WE'LL FIND, AS WE DELVE INTO THE DETAILS.
12:35:33AM IT'S TIME THAT WE MATURE INTO HAVING OUR OWN EXPERT OPINION.
12:35:38AM AGAIN, I RESPECT THE ADMINISTRATION AND THE AUDIT AND THE
12:35:41AM PROCESS THEY GO THROUGH AS I PREVIOUSLY SAID DURING THIS
12:35:47AM MEETING, BUT THAT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE AUDIT BASED ON THE
12:35:50AM FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY OF HOW THEY ARE HANDLING THEIR MONEY
12:35:53AM IN ACCORDANCE WITH INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
12:35:56AM I THINK OUR INTEREST HAS A POLITICAL INTEREST IN IT AS WELL.
12:36:01AM WHEN WE'RE DIVING INTO A BUDGET TO FIND OUT WHERE THE ACTUAL
12:36:04AM SPENDING IT AND WHERE THE POLITICAL AGENDAS ARE, HOW THESE
12:36:07AM THINGS ARE ALLOCATED, THAT'S WHERE A BUDGET ANALYST THAT
12:36:11AM REPORTS TO YOU WOULD BE HELPFUL.
12:36:13AM THE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THAT POSITION LOOKS LIKE, WHETHER
12:36:16AM IT'S AN FTE, WHETHER IT'S CONTRACT, WHAT THAT PERSON IS
12:36:20AM WORKING HOURS OR STANDARDS, ALL THAT, THAT IS SUBJECT TO
12:36:24AM FUTURE DISCUSSION BY THIS COUNCIL.
12:36:28AM I ONLY ASK THERE BE A PLACEHOLDER BECAUSE IF WE DIDN'T GET
12:36:31AM IT IN THERE, DIDN'T GET THAT OBLIGATION, IT DOESN'T EXIST.
12:36:35AM SO THIS WAS JUST A POLICE HOLDER TO ENSURE THIS POSITION HAD
12:36:41AM AN ALLOCATION, BEST-CASE SCENARIO OR WORST-CASE SCENARIO AND
12:36:47AM WE CAN GO FROM THERE.
12:36:49AM ANYTHING WE DIDN'T ALLOCATE TONIGHT WE CAN'T GO BACK FOR.
12:36:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: THREE QUICK THINGS.
12:36:55AM ONE, I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA THAT IT SHOULD BE
12:37:00AM OUTSOURCED.
12:37:01AM I DON'T THINK WE NEED A FULL-TIME PERSON.
12:37:03AM NUMBER TWO, I THINK IF WE'RE OUTSOURCING IT, WE CAN DO IT
12:37:07AM EASILY FOR LESS THAN A HUNDRED GRAND.
12:37:09AM NUMBER THREE, IT NEEDS -- JUST LIKE WE WERE HIRING OUR OWN
12:37:15AM ATTORNEY, IT NEEDS TO BE SOMEBODY NOT AT ALL CONNECTED WITH
12:37:19AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHICH MEANS IT MIGHT BE A FIRM OUTSIDE
12:37:21AM TAMPA.
12:37:23AM IF WE AND THE PUBLIC DON'T FEEL LIKE THERE'S COMPLETE
12:37:26AM OBJECTIVITY, THEN WE MAY AS WELL NOT PAY THE MONEY.
12:37:31AM THE LAST THING IS THANKS AGAIN TO COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN
12:37:34AM FOR PUSHING THIS FORWARD.
12:37:36AM THANKS.
12:37:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION --
12:37:38AM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IF I MAY, ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
12:37:41AM THIS MAY GIVE YOU SOME COMFORT.
12:37:44AM THE CHARTER EXPRESSLY STATES THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CAN HIRE
12:37:48AM ITS OWN BUDGET ANALYST.
12:37:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
12:37:51AM CLENDENIN.
12:37:51AM WHO WAS THE SECOND?
12:37:52AM THE SECOND WAS VIERA.
12:37:54AM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:37:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
12:37:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
12:38:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:38:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
12:38:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
12:38:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:38:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:38:12AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSED WITH MIRANDA AND HENDERSON VOTING
12:38:14AM NO.
12:38:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, YOU HAVE ANOTHER MOTION.
12:38:19AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DO SIR.
12:38:21AM THANK YOU.
12:38:21AM THE SECOND MOTION IS REQUESTING STAFF TO PREPARE A CHARTER
12:38:24AM OF TAX PROPOSALS OF VARIOUS FLORIDA CITIES AND COUNTIES AND
12:38:27AM PROVIDE TO YOU WHETHER THEY ARE KEEPING THEIR MILLAGE THE
12:38:30AM SAME, INCREASING IT OR DECREASING IT.
12:38:32AM I HAVE IT IN SLIDE FORMAT.
12:38:34AM I CAN SEND IT TO YOU OR I CAN DO BOTH.
12:38:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SEND IT TO US.
12:38:41AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SEND IT, YES, SIR.
12:38:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE THIRD ONE WAS REGARDING LAND
12:38:47AM ACQUISITION AND FIRE STATIONS.
12:38:48AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT WAS MY MOTION.
12:38:50AM IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE THAT HEARD AT THE BEGINNING OF
12:38:54AM WEDNESDAY?
12:38:54AM NUMBER ONE, IT'S LATE.
12:38:56AM THIS MAY REQUIRE A ROBUST DISCUSSION.
12:38:59AM WE DON'T HAVE THE UNION HERE OR THE FIRE CHIEF.
12:39:02AM I THINK WE WOULD BE ILL EQUIPPED FOR AN IMPORTANT
12:39:06AM DISCUSSION.
12:39:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD THAT BE ALL RIGHT?
12:39:13AM >> I MOVE TO DEFER CONSIDERATION.
12:39:14AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, TO THE FIRST ITEM ON WEDNESDAY, IF I MAY.
12:39:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND
12:39:21AM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:39:23AM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:39:24AM ANY OPPOSED?
12:39:25AM >> MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:39:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE, MR. ROGERO?
12:39:28AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THERE IS NOT, SIR.
12:39:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE, CHIEF OF STAFF?
12:39:33AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MAYBE THERE IS.
12:39:34AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
12:39:36AM JUST IN THE SPIRIT OF WORKING TOGETHER, IT WAS ASKED OF US
12:39:39AM TO SEE IF WE HAD ANY OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CUTS AHEAD OF
12:39:42AM WEDNESDAY.
12:39:43AM ALSO, YOU HAVE TO JUXTAPOSE THAT AGAINST COUNCIL'S
12:39:46AM PRIORITIES OF WHAT TO CUT.
12:39:47AM MY QUESTION IS BECAUSE IT'S PUBLICLY NOTICED REQUIREMENT NOT
12:39:52AM JUST FOR THIS MEETING BUT ANY REQUEST TO WORK WITH THE
12:39:55AM BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE BEFORE THAT AS INDIVIDUALS OR
12:40:01AM COLLECTIVELY.
12:40:01AM YOU CAN CHANNEL THAT THROUGH US.
12:40:03AM INDIVIDUALLY WE'VE DONE THAT ALREADY, BUT COLLECTIVELY WE'D
12:40:06AM HAVE TO NOTICE A MEETING IF WE WORKED AS A GROUP.
12:40:09AM WE'RE JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE THE CLOCK IS SHORT
12:40:12AM BETWEEN NOW AND WEDNESDAY.
12:40:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD SAY IS THERE ENOUGH TIME -- IF
12:40:16AM NOT TO MEET AS ENTIRE BODY, MEET WITH THEM ONE ON ONE, NOW
12:40:21AM THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE FIRST HEARING.
12:40:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE HAVE ONE MEMBER HERE.
12:40:26AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT DISCUSSION THERE IS WITH REGARD TO THEIR
12:40:29AM SCHEDULE AND THEIR AVAILABILITY.
12:40:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO ONE-ON-ONE.
12:40:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU EACH HAVE AN APPOINTEE.
12:40:37AM AS LONG AS YOU DON'T ACT AS CONDUITS AND AS LONG AS THEY
12:40:41AM DON'T ACT AS CONDUITS, THEY DON'T VIOLATE THE SUNSHINE.
12:40:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT, INDIVIDUALLY
12:40:48AM REACH OUT TO THEM.
12:40:50AM ANYTHING ELSE?
12:40:51AM MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, SECOND
12:40:55AM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:40:56AM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:40:57AM AYE.
12:40:58AM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
12:40:59AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:41:02AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
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