TAMPA CITY COUNCIL BUDGET SPECIAL CALL MEETING
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2023
5:01 P.M.
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05:04:30PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
05:04:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO
05:04:34PM THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL BUDGET MEETING.
05:04:36PM AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL.
05:04:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:04:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
05:04:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
05:04:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
05:04:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
05:04:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:04:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:04:50PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:04:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION WITH
05:04:55PM THE ROLL CALL VOTE TO OPEN THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE FY
05:04:59PM 2024 MILLAGE RATE AND OPERATING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET
05:05:02PM FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA PER FLORIDA STATUTE 200.065, THE FY
05:05:08PM '24 FINAL MILLAGE RATE NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED WITH A SEPARATE
05:05:13PM VOTE PRIOR TO THE OPERATING BUDGET.
05:05:16PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:05:18PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:05:20PM ROLL CALL TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
05:05:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
05:05:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:05:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
05:05:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
05:05:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
05:05:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
05:05:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
05:05:36PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
05:05:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE PRINTING COPIES OF THE SLIDE OF
05:05:49PM THE POWERPOINT SO THE PUBLIC WILL HAVE COPIES.
05:05:52PM MY AIDE IS WORKING TO THAN AND WILL GIVE COPIES TO THE
05:05:56PM PUBLIC AND YOU WILL SEE IT ON THE TV SCREEN.
05:05:59PM IT IS GOING TO BE SHOWN ON THE SCREEN TOO.
05:06:12PM SURE.
05:06:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOR MEMBERS OF PUBLIC.
05:06:14PM I WANT TO THANK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR TAKING THIS BACK OVER
05:06:17PM THE LAST WEEK AND GOING THROUGH THIS.
05:06:19PM I KNOW THEY SPENT A LOT OF HOURS ON IT AND I THINK EACH OF
05:06:24PM US HAD AN UPDATE FROM THE STAFF AND THE MAYOR.
05:06:27PM I HAD A CALL FROM THE MAYOR ALSO.
05:06:29PM BUT THE SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT YOU ARE SEEING, THE DETAILS
05:06:31PM OF IT, WE JUST RECEIVED A FEW MINUTES AGO AND THAT IS WHY IT
05:06:35PM IS NOT ON SIRE.
05:06:37PM AND WE ASKED THAT -- THAT STAFF MAKE COPIES OF IT FOR
05:06:41PM EVERYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE.
05:06:42PM EVERYBODY ON TV WILL SEE IT IN A MINUTE, AND YOU WILL SEE IT.
05:06:44PM WE ASKED FOR COPIES TO BE MADE.
05:06:46PM UNFORTUNATELY TWO PRINTERS ARE BROKEN IN THE BACK.
05:06:49PM WE ARE TRYING TO GET THE COPIES FOR YOU, WE APOLOGIZE FOR
05:06:52PM NOT GETTING IT TO YOU.
05:06:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:06:59PM MR. ROGERO, YES, SIR.
05:07:01PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, DENNIS ROGERO.
05:07:06PM CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
05:07:07PM WILL THE FINANCE CHAIR PLEASE READ THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING
05:07:12PM STATEMENT.
05:07:12PM DO YOU NEED A COPY?
05:07:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 3.
05:07:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY WENT BUT TO HAVE
05:07:46PM ONE TO READ.
05:07:47PM SECOND READING, SECOND PUBLIC HEARING STATEMENT.
05:07:49PM THIS IS THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
05:07:53PM FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET.
05:07:54PM THE PROPOSED MILLAGE 6.2072 MILLS, 6.95%, MORE THAN THE ROLLOUT
05:08:06PM 45.801 MILL.
05:08:07PM FOR THE COMMUNITY BUDGET AND THE COMMUNITY AGENCY FUND FOR
05:08:11PM THE CITY.
05:08:12PM GENERAL FUND INCLUDES SUCH DEPARTMENTS AS FIRE, RESCUE AND
05:08:15PM POLICE, HUMAN RESOURCES, PARKS AND RECREATION.
05:08:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:08:20PM MR. ROGERO, PLEASE PROCEED WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA
05:08:26PM PRESENTATION OF THE FY '24 MILLAGE RATE FOR CITY COUNCIL'S
05:08:31PM APPROVAL OF A TENTATIVE OF 6.2076 MILLS AT THE FIRST PUBLIC
05:08:36PM HEARING SEPTEMBER 5, WHICH IS LESS THAN THE INITIAL MILLAGE
05:08:40PM RATE PROPOSED BY THE MAYOR.
05:08:41PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
05:08:43PM YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION.
05:08:44PM IF WE CAN BRING IT.
05:08:45PM YOU.
05:08:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I HAVE IT READY FOR ELMO IF THEY HAVEIT IN
05:08:49PM THE BACK, IT IS EVEN BETTER.
05:08:51PM THEY DON'T HAVE IT?
05:08:52PM ALL RIGHT.
05:08:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN USE THE OVERHEAD THEN.
05:08:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: OVERHEAD IS FINE.
05:08:57PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
05:09:01PM AND, AGAIN, GOOD EVENING.
05:09:03PM CAN EVERYBODY SEE THAT ALL RIGHT.
05:09:06PM YOU GOT THE -- I CAN MOVE IT -- I AM SORRY?
05:09:11PM THE CLOSED CAPTIONING.
05:09:12PM THERE WE GO.
05:09:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ZOOM OUT.
05:09:15PM ZOOM OUT.
05:09:16PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
05:09:19PM YOU WANT ME TO GO THE OTHER WAY.
05:09:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST MOVE IT DOWN.
05:09:24PM THERE YOU GO.
05:09:25PM AS FAR BACK --
05:09:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: HOW IS THAT.
05:09:27PM DOES THAT WORK.
05:09:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S GOOD.
05:09:30PM THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN SEE IT.
05:09:32PM >> WITH THE CLOSED CAPTIONING.
05:09:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE IT UP A LITTLE FOR THE CLOSED
05:09:38PM CAPTIONING.
05:09:38PM THAT IS WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO DO.
05:09:39PM THANK YOU.
05:09:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU ARE WELCOME.
05:09:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE YOU GO.
05:09:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
05:09:44PM I WILL LEAD OFF BY SAYING -- WELL, I JUST SAID THANK YOU BUT
05:09:49PM I WILL THANK YOU ALL AGAIN.
05:09:52PM AUGUST 3, THIS IS QUITE A BURDEN AND A PRIVILEGE FOR THE
05:09:56PM MAYOR, STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL TO WORK THROUGH A NEARLY $2
05:09:59PM BILLION BUDGET.
05:10:00PM THE SOONEST WE COULD GET IT TO YOU.
05:10:02PM AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO HAVEN'T SEEN
05:10:05PM THIS.
05:10:05PM IN A NUTSHELL, I WILL START AT A VERY BROAD LEVEL AND GET
05:10:10PM DOWN INTO FURTHER DETAIL AS YOU HAVE SEEN, IF YOU HAD A
05:10:13PM CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH MY PRESENTATION.
05:10:15PM I APPRECIATE ALL THE DISCUSSION, ALL THE COLLABORATION,
05:10:18PM COOPERATION.
05:10:19PM THE UPSHOT IS, WE THINK WE ARRIVED AT -- YOU KNOW, IN THE
05:10:24PM ABSENCE OF THE MILLAGE INCREASE, WE THINK WE HAVE ARRIVED AT
05:10:27PM A VERY SIGNIFICANT SOURCE OF FUNDING FOUR OUR HIGHEST
05:10:30PM PRIORITIES AS WE HAVE DISCUSSED OVER THESE PAST WEEKS AND
05:10:34PM MONTHS.
05:10:34PM AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, IN ORDERER TO LEVEL SET, WE REMOVED
05:10:40PM THE ADDITIONAL MILLAGE.
05:10:43PM REVENUE FOR THE MILLAGE INCREASE FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND
05:10:49PM THE CRA AND REMOVED THE ASSOCIATED EXPENSES WE HAD PLANNED
05:10:53PM IN OUR PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THAT $54 MILLION.
05:10:56PM AGAIN IT WAS $54 MILLION, 8-ISH TO THE CRA WITH $45 MILLION
05:11:04PM FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND WE REMOVED IT DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR AND
05:11:08PM START WITH A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, IF YOU WILL, AND, AGAIN,
05:11:11PM ADDRESS THOSE PRIORITIES WE DISCUSSED OVER THIS TIME.
05:11:15PM BULLET NUMBER TWO, REALIGNMENT OF THE FISCAL '24 CONTINUING
05:11:19PM SERVICES AND BROAD REMOVAL OF THE ENHANCED SERVICE.
05:11:21PM WHAT "BROAD REMOVAL OF THE ENHANCED SERVICES" MEANS WE WENT
05:11:27PM BACK AND REDUCED MANY OF THE BUDGET INCREASE ITEMS WE SHARED
05:11:30PM WITH CITY COUNCIL PRIOR.
05:11:32PM THE SHEET WITH THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT THEY WERE
05:11:36PM ASKING FOR IN FISCAL YEAR '24 24.
05:11:40PM INCREASES THEY WERE ASKING FOR TO CONTINUE THEIR CONTINUED
05:11:44PM LEVEL OF SERVICE AND INCREASES TO EXPAND THEIR LEVEL OF
05:11:47PM SERVICE.
05:11:47PM GOOD EXAMPLE, WE HAD A NUMBER OF TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION
05:11:51PM INCREASES, MUCH OF IT ASSOCIATED WITH SIMPLE COST INCREASES
05:11:56PM ASSOCIATED WITH TECHNOLOGY CONTRACTS AND SOME OF IT
05:11:59PM ASSOCIATED WITH THE SERVICES THEY WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND.
05:12:01PM WE REDUCED THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUNDING.
05:12:05PM PRIMARILY AS YOU SEE THERE, NEW REQUESTS, AND A DECREASE OF
05:12:09PM SOME RECURRING FUNDING AND WE CAN GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF
05:12:12PM DETAIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE ALSO.
05:12:14PM AS WE DISCUSSED, AS COUNCIL DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING,
05:12:18PM WE REDUCED THE NONUNION PAY INCREASES FROM 4.5% TO 3% ACROSS
05:12:23PM THE BOARD.
05:12:24PM AND, AGAIN, I WILL HAVE DETAILED NUMBERS AND MORE
05:12:29PM INFORMATION FOR EACH OF THESE ITEMS.
05:12:30PM WE HAVE A FEW OPTIONS.
05:12:32PM COUNCIL ALREADY DISCUSSED ONE.
05:12:34PM TAKING APPROXIMATELY $7 MILLION FROM THE PARKING PROGRAM AND
05:12:37PM REDIRECTING THAT TO PAVING.
05:12:40PM IT IS AN ALLOWABLE USE.
05:12:41PM IT IS A MOBILITY-RELATED USE.
05:12:44PM SO THAT IS AN OPTION COUNCIL HAS.
05:12:46PM AND WE INCLUDED THIS IN THE SLIDES TO COME.
05:12:49PM ANOTHER OPTION COUNCIL DISCUSSED WITH AS TO USE A PERCENTAGE
05:12:52PM OF THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE, SPECIFICALLY FOR HOUSING.
05:12:56PM AND WE WILL GET INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL THERE.
05:12:59PM I WILL SAY IT NOW, BUT I WILL GET INTO A BIT MORE DETAIL.
05:13:04PM I WILL REMIND COUNCIL OF THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH REDUCING
05:13:08PM OUR FUND BALANCE FROM A CREDIT AND MARKET PERSPECTIVE.
05:13:11PM AND HERE WE GO.
05:13:22PM AND ONCE WE WENT THROUGH THE SOURCES, WE ADDRESSED THE USES.
05:13:29PM YOU SEE HERE, WE INCLUDED A PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEE STUDY
05:13:32PM -- OR FUNDING FOR A IMPACT FEE STUDY.
05:13:36PM WE DO NOT THINK AT THIS TIME, ALTHOUGH WE ARE NOT EXACTLY
05:13:40PM SURE, WE DON'T THINK WE WILL BE SUCCESSFUL OF GETTING THAT
05:13:43PM SAFER GRANT FOR 30 FIRE FIGHTER PARAMEDIC POSITIONS.
05:13:47PM SO REPLACED THE FUNDING ASSOCIATED.
05:13:51PM AGAIN IT WAS NONMATCH FOR THREE YEARS.
05:13:53PM I SHOULDN'T SAY "REPLACED."
05:13:57PM WELL, WE DID, REPLACED THE GRANT FUNDING THAT WE ARE NOT
05:14:01PM GOING TO GET BUT TO THE EXTENT OF 18 FIRE FIGHTER
05:14:05PM PARAMEDICS.
05:14:05PM NOT THE 30 COMPLEMENTS.
05:14:08PM CIP BASED FUNDING OR BUILD FOR DEBT SERVICE.
05:14:12PM WHAT THAT MEANS IS, WE HAVE A LITTLE UNDER $700,000 AS YOU
05:14:15PM WILL SEE TO ENTER INTO SOME SORT OF LONG-TERM DEBT FOR
05:14:19PM EITHER RECONSTRUCTION OR WHERE HE BUILDING SELECT FIRE
05:14:22PM STATIONS.
05:14:22PM SO WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
05:14:24PM AND AS WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LAST TIME, WE HAD THE
05:14:28PM COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX FOR ADDED VEHICLE REPLACEMENT IN
05:14:32PM BOTH THE FIRE AND POLICE.
05:14:33PM YOU WILL SEE THE LAST BULLET IN EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES.
05:14:36PM AND WE AWAIT WORD OF THE COPS AHEAD, 30 POSITIONS ASSOCIATED
05:14:43PM WITH THAT GRANT AND THE SUSTAINMENT FUNDING.
05:14:46PM POWER POSITIONS AND CONTINUING SERVICE COSTS.
05:14:49PM WE HAVE RETAINED THOSE.
05:14:50PM THEY ARE STILL IN WHAT WE ARE CALLING THE REVISED PROPOSED
05:14:53PM BUDGET.
05:14:54PM AND, AGAIN, AS I SAID THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX FOR
05:14:57PM VEHICLES.
05:14:57PM AS I REFERENCED EARLIER, UNDER THE SOURCES, REDIRECTING $7
05:15:09PM MILLION FOR PARKING AND HERE IS WHERE WE WILL REDIRECT IT,
05:15:13PM TO PAVING.
05:15:14PM AND DEFER THAT PARKING GUIDANCE SYSTEM UNTIL FISCAL YEAR
05:15:18PM '25.
05:15:18PM HOUSING, WE WOULD CONTINUE OR REVISE RECOMMEND CONTINUING
05:15:25PM THE CURRENT $5.5 MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND
05:15:28PM INCREASING THAT BY $5 MILLION.
05:15:30PM AGAIN, HERE IS WHAT WE COME BACK TO THE POTENTIAL GENERAL
05:15:33PM FUND BALANCE OPTION.
05:15:35PM AND WE CONTINUE WITH THE $1.7 MILLION FINANCING FOR HOUSING
05:15:40PM CREATION AND PRESERVATION.
05:15:43PM THE FINANCING COMPONENT THAT WE BRING TO COUNCIL TO MAXIMIZE
05:15:47PM OR LEVERAGE THAT $1.7 MILLION.
05:15:49PM IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION, OF COURSE, WE TALKED OF ADA
05:15:54PM ACCESSIBILITY FUNDING INCLUDED IN THE CURRENT CAPITAL -- OR
05:15:58PM THE PROPOSED, EXCUSE ME, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
05:16:02PM AS WE LOOK OUT TO FUTURE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
05:16:06PM PROJECTS IN PARKS AND RECREATION, PROBABLY THE LARGEST
05:16:09PM EXAMPLE OR THE MOST APPARENT EXAMPLE IS THE K-BAR RANCH
05:16:14PM PARK.
05:16:14PM WE CAN LOOK AT SPACING AND PLANNING THAT OUT OVER THE NEXT
05:16:17PM FIVE-YEAR TIME INCREMENT.
05:16:19PM THAT IS THE BROAD VIEW.
05:16:26PM IF YOU ALL ARE GOOD, I WILL JUMP INTO THE DETAILED VIEW.
05:16:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
05:16:32PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
05:16:34PM THERE IS A BIT GOING ON HERE, BUT IT IS WHAT I ALLUDED TO
05:16:38PM EARLIER.
05:16:39PM THIS IS THE LEVEL SET.
05:16:40PM WE TOOK OUT -- FOR THE GENERAL FUND WE TOOK OUT THE 45, THE
05:16:45PM $45.5 MILLION OF THE GENERAL FUND ASSOCIATED WITH THE
05:16:48PM MILLAGE INCREASE AND YOU CAN SEE DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR, WE
05:16:51PM REMOVED THAT FROM THE EXPENSES.
05:16:53PM I WILL MOVE THAT UP A LITTLE BIT RIGHT THERE.
05:16:55PM YOU WILL RECALL WE HAD A LITTLE OVER $9.5 MILLION GOING TO
05:16:59PM PUBLIC SAFETY.
05:17:00PM A LITTLE UNDER $18 MILLION GOING FOR TRANSPORTATION.
05:17:02PM A LITTLE OVER $9 MILLION FOR FUNDING.
05:17:05PM ETC., ETC.
05:17:06PM WE CLEARED THAT OUT FROM THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO LEVEL SET
05:17:11PM AND START HAVE A STATIC STATUS QUO BUDGET, IF YOU WILL.
05:17:17PM GETTING INTO EVEN MORE DETAIL.
05:17:19PM LET ME KNOW IF THAT IS BIG ENOUGH IF YOU NEED FOR ME TO DO
05:17:29PM THE WHEEL.
05:17:29PM BECAUSE I DON'T MIND MOVING IT UP.
05:17:33PM ALL RIGHT, AGAIN, THE FIRST OPTION -- THE OPTION WE TALKED
05:17:37PM ABOUT IS REDUCING THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
05:17:39PM 1%.
05:17:40PM LITTLE LESS THAN WE ANTICIPATED.
05:17:43PM TURNS OUT TO BE ABOUT $5 MILLION THAT WILL BRING US TO 23%
05:17:48PM OR 22%.
05:17:48PM THE PARKING CONTRIBUTION APPROVAL AND REDIRECTION THAT WE
05:17:52PM TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
05:17:53PM IN THE GOOD NEWS DEPARTMENTS, AGAIN, WE PRESENTED THE BUDGET
05:17:57PM NEARLY A MONTH AND A HALF AGO.
05:17:59PM SENSE THEN, WE HAVE GOTTEN MORE REVENUE DATA.
05:18:03PM AND THE DATA IS POSITIVE.
05:18:04PM AND WE HAVE UPPED OUR PROJECTIONS $2 MILLION IN TOTAL.
05:18:09PM $1 MILLION FOR THE STATE SHARE REVENUE AND ABOUT $1 MILLION
05:18:13PM FOR OTHER ODDS AND ENDS REVENUE.
05:18:16PM $2 MILLION OF NEW MONEY COMPARED TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET
05:18:20PM OPPOSED OF REDIRECTING THE $7 MILLION AND PULLING FROM FUND
05:18:24PM BALANCE.
05:18:24PM AGAIN AS TIME GOES ON, WE GET MORE DATA AND OUR PROJECTIONS
05:18:29PM THEORETICALLY BECOME MORE AND MORE ACCURATE.
05:18:31PM TOTAL ON THE RIGHT OF $14 MILLION OF ADDITIONAL SOURCES.
05:18:35PM AND WHAT DID WE USE THAT FUNDING FOR?
05:18:39PM YOU SEE IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND, AGAIN, I HAVE GOT MORE DETAIL
05:18:42PM COMING AS I BREAK THIS DOWN.
05:18:43PM NEARLY $5 MILLION TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
05:18:46PM THERE IS THE $7 MILLION FOR MOBILITY, TRANSPORTATION,
05:18:51PM ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARKING REVENUE.
05:18:52PM HOUSING, JUST OVER -- JUST OVER $6.8 MILLION, THE GENERAL
05:18:59PM FUND INCREASE AND ALSO A COMPONENT FOR FINANCING.
05:19:02PM PARKS AND RECREATION, SAW NO CHANGE FROM THESE ACTIONS.
05:19:06PM IT IS AS IT WAS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET WITH ONE EXCEPTION
05:19:10PM THAT I WILL POINT OUT LATER.
05:19:11PM AND WE HAD $160,000, IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN, WAS THE CITY
05:19:19PM COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYSIS.
05:19:21PM DECREASES.
05:19:22PM PARKS, SLIGHT DECREASE OF $125,000.
05:19:29PM I HAVE DETAIL ON THAT.
05:19:30PM WE REDUCED IN OTHER AREAS OF PUBLIC SAFETY, OVER $1.2
05:19:36PM MILLION.
05:19:37PM I HAVE DETAIL ON THAT.
05:19:38PM OTHER REDUCTIONS I WILL GET INTO OF $1.5 MILLION.
05:19:42PM I HAVE GOT MORE DETAIL.
05:19:43PM AND VARIOUS OTHER DEPARTMENT REDUCTIONS.
05:19:47PM SO YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT THERE, A LITTLE OVER $5.7 MILLION OF
05:19:50PM REDIRECTING FUNDING THAT WAS INITIALLY IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
05:19:58PM ALL TOTALED BETWEEN THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND THE
05:20:01PM REDUCTIONS IN OTHER AREAS, WE HAVE GOT NEARLY $19 MILLION
05:20:05PM FOR THOSE FIVE Ps OR FOUR OR FIVE Ps DEPENDING ON HOW YOU
05:20:13PM COUNT IT.
05:20:13PM YOU SEE WE HAVE A LITTLE LEFT OVER, A BALANCE OF $800,000
05:20:18PM THAT CAN FALL TO FUND BALANCE OR THAT COUNCIL CAN DISCUSS
05:20:22PM ABOUT REDIRECTING THIS VERY EVENING.
05:20:27PM NOTHING NEW HERE.
05:20:40PM THIS IS THE SOURCES AGAIN.
05:20:41PM WE GOT INTO DETAIL.
05:20:43PM THE SAME DETAIL AGAIN.
05:20:45PM WE RECOGNIZED SOME ADDITIONAL REVENUE BASED ON OUR
05:20:48PM PROJECTIONS.
05:20:49PM AGAIN, REMIND CITY COUNCIL.
05:20:51PM CITY COUNCIL, OF COURSE, KNOW IT IS BUT REMIND THE PUBLIC.
05:20:56PM THE BUDGET IS A PLAN.
05:20:57PM IT IS GOING TO CHANGE.
05:20:58PM ALL OF OUR REVENUES AND EXPENSE PROJECTIONS ARE SIMPLY PLANS
05:21:03PM AT THIS TIME.
05:21:03PM IN REALITY, WE ARE ADOPTING A SPENDING PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR
05:21:08PM WITHOUT EVEN BEING OUT OF THE CURRENT YEAR AND KNOWING HOW
05:21:11PM THIS YEAR ENDS.
05:21:12PM IT WILL TAKE US THROUGH NOVEMBER TO CLOSE THE BOOKS ON THE
05:21:15PM CURRENT YEAR.
05:21:16PM SO IT'S THE BEST EDUCATED GUESS OF ANY NUMBER OF GREAT
05:21:21PM MINDS.
05:21:21PM AND THESE GREAT MINDS ARE WILLING TO RECOGNIZE AN ADDITIONAL
05:21:26PM $2 MILLION IN REVENUE.
05:21:28PM AND HERE ARE THE USES.
05:21:37PM YOU SEE IN DETAIL THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.
05:21:40PM AND I WILL BREAK THEM DOWN FOR YOU.
05:21:42PM THE FIRE POSITIONS.
05:21:43PM AN ESTIMATE, EXCUSE ME, OF $1.8 MILLION.
05:21:47PM THOSE ARE THE 18 POSITIONS, APPROXIMATELY $100,000 EACH.
05:21:50PM THAT IS INSTEAD OF, AGAIN, THE 30 POSITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH
05:21:56PM THE SAFER GRANT.
05:21:57PM THE VERDICT IS NOT FINALLY IN, BUT WE DON'T THINK WE ARE
05:22:01PM GOING TO GET THAT.
05:22:02PM THE DEBT SERVICE ON THE RIGHT, A LITTLE OVER $660,000 THAT
05:22:06PM WE CAN BOND OUT FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT $20 MILLION.
05:22:09PM AND YOU SEE ON THE LEFT THERE, FIRE STATION 6, 9, 10.
05:22:13PM THOSE ARE FIRE STATIONS THAT COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT.
05:22:16PM FIRE STATION 24 IS WILL A FIRE STATION THAT COUNCIL HAS
05:22:20PM TALKED ABOUT.
05:22:20PM AND THIS PUTS $20 MILLION INTO THE UNIVERSE TO CONSIDER FOR
05:22:25PM THOSE FIRE STATIONS.
05:22:26PM THE COPS AHEAD GRANT MATCH AND THE ADDITIONAL FUND
05:22:31PM REQUIREMENTS WE TALKED ABOUT.
05:22:32PM WE REMAIN CONFIDENT WE WILL GET THOSE 30 POSITIONS, BUT THE
05:22:37PM VERDICT IS NOT IN YET.
05:22:38PM THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN -- THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER
05:22:43PM PLAN OF THAT FOR $50 THOUSAND IN.
05:22:45PM PUBLIC SAFETY IMPACT FEE STUDY OF $80,000.
05:22:49PM THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE POSITIONS THAT WE DISCUSSED IN
05:22:54PM THE PAST ARE THERE FOR A LITTLE UNDER $580,000.
05:22:57PM AND AS I REFERENCED EARLIER AND AS WE DISCUSSED, POLICE
05:23:05PM VEHICLES ARE IN THE -- IN THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX
05:23:08PM PROGRAM.
05:23:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET HIM FINISH --
05:23:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT SHOULD SAY POLICE AND FIRE.
05:23:16PM THAT IS SOURCE ERROR.
05:23:17PM $16 MILLION FOR POLICE AND FIRE VEHICLES.
05:23:21PM THAT IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
05:23:27PM MOVING ON TO TRANSPORTATION.
05:23:28PM TRANSPORTATION IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
05:23:30PM REDIRECTING, AGAIN, THAT $7 MILLION FROM THE PARKING TO
05:23:34PM EXCLUSIVELY AT THIS TIME IN THE REVISED PROPOSED BUDGET,
05:23:38PM PAVING.
05:23:38PM CONTINUING WITH THE DETAILS ASSOCIATED WITH THE INCREASES OF
05:23:54PM USE.
05:23:54PM THERE IS THE HOUSING FUNDING THAT WE DISCUSSED FOR HOUSING
05:23:58PM CREATION AND PRESERVATION.
05:24:00PM FINANCING, 1.6 -- NOT QUITE $1.7 MILLION FOR THAT.
05:24:06PM AGAIN, WE WILL LEVERAGE THAT WITH THE DEBT ISSUANCE WHICH,
05:24:09PM OF COURSE, WE WILL BRING TO COUNCIL AND THE INCREASE OF THE
05:24:12PM GENERAL FUND FOR HOUSING ASSISTANCE, $5.2 MILLION.
05:24:16PM ADA ACCESSIBILITY, AGAIN, IS INCLUDED IN PARKS AND
05:24:23PM RECREATION CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
05:24:24PM THERE IS THE $160,000 OF COUNCIL BUDGET ANALYSIS THAT WE
05:24:30PM DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.
05:24:31PM WE HAD THIS AS A PLACEHOLDER BECAUSE COUNCIL SURFACED
05:24:36PM ALLOCATION OF THE $8 MILLION IN THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
05:24:41PM AGENCIES.
05:24:41PM AGAIN, THEY ARE GETTING AN ADDITIONAL $8 MILLION WITH A
05:24:47PM TAXABLE INCREASE.
05:24:48PM WE HAVE IT AS A PLACEHOLDER BECAUSE CITY COUNCIL AS A CRA
05:24:53PM BOARD WILL DISCUSS HOW TO ALLOCATE OR CONFIRM HOW THEY ARE
05:24:56PM ALLOCATING THAT FUNDING.
05:24:57PM AND, AGAIN, THE ALMOST $19 MILLION OF USES THAT WE HAVE
05:25:07PM FOUND ADDITIONAL SOURCES FOR AND REDIRECTED OTHER FUNDING
05:25:10PM FOR.
05:25:11PM AND CONTINUING WITH THE USES, BUT THIS TIME THE HOW WE DO
05:25:28PM THESE FUNDING IN SOME AREAS.
05:25:29PM YOU SEE PARKS AND RECREATION.
05:25:31PM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE ARE VERY FEW PICKLEBALL COURTS
05:25:35PM REMAINING TO BE COMPLETED BUT THAT WAS THE REQUEST OF
05:25:39PM COUNCIL TO ELIMINATE THOSE AND THAT IS $125,000.
05:25:41PM AS WE ALSO DISCUSSED LAST MEETING, REMOVING THE SMARTPHONES
05:25:51PM FOR TPD AND HALVING -- I SHOULD SAY CUTTING IN HALF THE
05:25:55PM OVERHIRE FUNDING FOR TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT
05:25:57PM WE CUT THAT BY 50%, RECOGNIZING JUST UNDER $1 MILLION OF
05:26:02PM SAVINGS.
05:26:02PM IN THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENT CATEGORIES, THESE ARE THOSE BUDGET
05:26:09PM INCREASES I WAS REFERENCING EARLIER.
05:26:12PM LITTLE OVER $1.5 MILLION OF REDUCTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT
05:26:16PM VERY LONG LIST WE GAVE TO COUNCIL FOR EACH DEPARTMENT.
05:26:20PM AND WHAT THEY WERE REQUESTING IN FISCAL YEAR '24.
05:26:24PM YOU SEE THE -- ALMOST $1.3 MILLION WORTH OF SAVINGS
05:26:29PM ASSOCIATED WITH BRINGING THE NONUNION EMPLOYEES DOWN FROM A
05:26:33PM 4.5% PAY INCREASE TO A 3% PAY INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD.
05:26:39PM AND ONE OF THESE DAYS WE WILL COME UP WITH A BETTER
05:26:58PM DESCRIPTION THAN "OTHER."
05:27:00PM I PROMISE YOU.
05:27:00PM BUT HERE ARE OTHER REDUCTIONS.
05:27:02PM COMMUNICATION COORDINATOR POSITION AND CONTRACT
05:27:05PM ADMINISTRATION WAS DISCUSSED.
05:27:06PM AND THAT HAS BEEN ELIMINATED.
05:27:08PM THAT WAS PART OF THE BUDGET INCREASED NEW POSITIONS IN THE
05:27:12PM PREVIOUS PAGE.
05:27:13PM THE MAYOR'S ADVISOR POSITION HAS BEEN DISCUSSED.
05:27:16PM THAT HAS BEEN ELIMINATED.
05:27:18PM YOU SEE IN THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUND, WE ELIMINATED OR
05:27:22PM REDUCED, EXCUSE ME, $354,000 FROM EXISTING CONTRIBUTIONS.
05:27:28PM WE ELIMINATED ALL NEW CONTRIBUTIONS FOR $775,000.
05:27:34PM WE LEFT THE AGREEMENTS ALONE, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE HAVE BONA
05:27:39PM FIDE AGREEMENTS WITH THOSE PARTICULAR NONPROFITS THAT ARE
05:27:42PM ENFORCED RIGHT NOW.
05:27:43PM AND THEN FOR OUR CITY ASSETS, WHETHER IT IS THE TAMPA
05:27:48PM MUSEUM, THE AQUARIUM, THE ZOO, ETC., WE REDUCED 10% ACROSS
05:27:52PM THE BOARD FOR EACH OF THOSE ENTITIES FOR A LITTLE OVER
05:27:57PM $216,000 IN SAVINGS.
05:27:58PM AND YOU SEE THE SUBTOTAL THERE.
05:28:01PM AND, AGAIN, ON THE LOWER RIGHT, THE TOTAL DECREASE OF NEARLY
05:28:07PM $5.8 MILLION.
05:28:09PM WHEN TAKEN TOGETHER, AFTER LEVELING THE MILLAGE INCREASE
05:28:16PM REVENUE, THESE INCREASES IN SOURCES AND INCREASES AND
05:28:21PM DECREASES IN USES REBALANCES THE FISCAL YEAR '24 PROPOSED
05:28:27PM BUDGET.
05:28:27PM HAND THIS IS THE EXTENT OF MY PRESENTATION.
05:28:32PM I CAN TAKE QUESTIONS.
05:28:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:28:34PM BEFORE I START WITH COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND GO DOWN THE LINE.
05:28:37PM THANK YOU TO YOU, YOUR TEAM, YOUR STAFF, EVERYBODY THAT TOOK
05:28:43PM PART IN REWORKING THIS BUDGET IN A VERY, VERY SHORT PERIOD
05:28:46PM OF TIME.
05:28:46PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
05:28:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I -- WHAT I SEE HERE IS THAT YOU TOOK
05:28:52PM THE FEEDBACK FROM LAST WEDNESDAY WHEN WE HAD OUR WORKSHOP,
05:28:56PM AND, IN MY OPINION, A LOT OF QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.
05:29:00PM A LOT OF FEEDBACK WAS INCLUDED.
05:29:03PM I THINK -- YOU KNOW, WHAT I SEE REGARDING GENERAL FUND WHICH
05:29:08PM MEANS THE RESERVES, CORRECT?
05:29:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
05:29:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT $5 MILLION THERE.
05:29:13PM AND THAT IS AN OPTION, BUT IN MY OPINION, SINCE IT WILL GO
05:29:19PM TO INCREASE THE HOUSING BUDGET AND GO TO HOUSING, I THINK IT
05:29:22PM IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE -- I UNDERSTAND THE PROS AND CONS
05:29:26PM OF DIPPING INTO OUR RESERVES; HOWEVER, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL
05:29:29PM YEARS -- I HAVE KNOWN YOU SINCE I STARTED -- YOU HAVE BEEN
05:29:32PM VERY GOOD AND A VERY GOOD STEWARD AND THE CITY HAS PUTTING
05:29:37PM MONEY IN THE RESERVES.
05:29:38PM I SAID IN THE LAST MEETING A RAINY DAY FUND EVEN THOUGH WE
05:29:41PM ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP IT AT 20% OR OVERFUNDED DOESN'T MEAN WE
05:29:47PM CAN TAKE IT DOWN TO 20% THAT IT WOULD BE PRUDENT; HOWEVER,
05:29:51PM THERE IS MONEY WE CAN TAKE NOW THAT WE CAN PUT TOWARD
05:29:53PM HOUSING.
05:29:53PM I THINK THAT IS OUR MOST PRESSING -- PRESSING ITEM HERE IN
05:29:57PM THIS COMMUNITY.
05:29:57PM SO I -- I AM NOT SPEAKING FOR MY COLLEAGUES, BUT WE WILL
05:30:01PM HEAR FROM EVERYBODY, BUT WE NEED TO GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND
05:30:04PM AND PUT THAT TOWARD HOUSING, IN ADDITION TO WHAT IS ALREADY
05:30:09PM BUDGETED.
05:30:09PM IN REGARDS TO THE $7 MILLION, DEFERRING THE PARKING GUIDANCE
05:30:16PM SYSTEM.
05:30:16PM I KNOW THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE LAST -- IN THE WORKSHOP.
05:30:20PM I KNOW OUR ROADS ARE IN TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE CONDITION.
05:30:23PM HAND THIS WOULD BE $7 MILLION ON TOP OF THE $474 MILLION
05:30:27PM THAT IS BUDGETED.
05:30:27PM SO IT WOULD INCREASE THAT PAVING BUDGET.
05:30:30PM THEN WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PRESERVE,
05:30:35PM SHOULD WE GET THE POLICE GRANT.
05:30:36PM AND YOU SAID WE ARE HOPEFUL.
05:30:38PM BUT ABLE TO PRESERVE THOSE POSITIONS.
05:30:42PM WITH REGARDS TO FIRE, YOU HAD MENTIONED WE MAY NOT OR MAY
05:30:46PM RECEIVE THAT GRANT.
05:30:47PM IT IS UP IN THE AIR BUT YOU ALLOCATED FUNDING FOR 18
05:30:52PM POSITIONS, THAT IS CORRECT?
05:30:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
05:30:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY LAST QUESTIONS.
05:30:58PM COMMENTS WOULD BE WITH REGARDING -- I WROTE IT HERE.
05:31:01PM HOW WE CAN TAKE $663,000 AND BOND THAT TO -- TO ALLOW FOR
05:31:08PM $20 MILLION WORTH OF FUNDING AND WILL THAT BE ABLE TO GO TO
05:31:12PM STATION 24?
05:31:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
05:31:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO TO -- 6, 9 AND 10 WILL BE RENOVATIONS
05:31:19PM OR TEAR DOWN OR REBUILD?
05:31:21PM WHAT DO YOU PLAN THERE?
05:31:22PM WHAT DO YOU FORESEE THERE?
05:31:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WILL REFER TO THE CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION
05:31:27PM DEPARTMENT OR THE FIRE CHIEF
05:31:28PM I DON'T KNOW IF THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE YET.
05:31:32PM IN OUR ATTEMPT TO GET THE PRODUCT TO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC,
05:31:35PM WE WANTED TO AT LEAST IDENTIFY A POOL OF FUNDING FOR ANY
05:31:39PM NUMBER OF PARTICULAR OPTIONS.
05:31:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL CLOSE WITH THIS.
05:31:43PM AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DIP INTO THE RESERVES.
05:31:45PM YOU HAVE BEEN A VERY GOOD STEWARD.
05:31:48PM WE HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD AT SAVING.
05:31:51PM BUT WITH THE HOUSING SITUATION, I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE THAT
05:31:53PM MONEY AND ADD IT ADDITIONALLY TO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
05:31:57PM WITH HOUSING TO MAKE THE BIGGEST INVESTMENT THAT WE CAN
05:32:01PM BEYOND CRA, BEYOND -- YOU KNOW, THAT IS A DIFFERENT BUDGET,
05:32:05PM BUT, AGAIN, JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:32:07PM YOU KNOW, YOU -- YOU HEARD WHAT I SAID.
05:32:11PM AND I SEE IT HERE.
05:32:12PM I SEE A LOT OF IT IMPLEMENTED HERE.
05:32:14PM SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
05:32:16PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:32:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK, CHAIRMAN, YOU SPOKE OF MOST
05:32:20PM ITEMS AND MOST OF US ARE THINKING ABOUT.
05:32:21PM BUT THE ONLY THING I AM BRINGING OUT IS WHEN YOU GO AND LOOK
05:32:26PM AT YOUR BONDING RATING AND UNDERSTAND EVERY TIME YOU DO
05:32:28PM SOMETHING, SOMEONE IS UP THERE THAT DOES A RATING -- OTHERS
05:32:34PM THAT DO THAT, THEY LOOK AT THIS VERY CAREFULLY.
05:32:37PM IF YOU GO INTO YOUR RESERVES AND AT THE SAME TIME STOP
05:32:40PM BONDING SOMETHING YOU MAY NOT HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, THEY
05:32:43PM ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT ALSO.
05:32:45PM I AM NOT SHARING THAT IS A POSSIBILITY.
05:32:47PM IT IS A -- IT COULD HAPPEN WHETHER THEY LOOK AT IT OR NOT.
05:32:50PM I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
05:32:52PM BUT ONCE YOU START THIS SLIDE, LET'S MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND
05:32:56PM THAT CERTAINLY WE HAVE TO HELP HOUSING.
05:32:59PM BUT I CAN ALSO SAY THAT RESERVES AND BONDS ARE SOMETHING
05:33:02PM THAT DON'T MIX TOO WELL WHEN YOU PUT THEM IN THE WASHING
05:33:05PM MACHINE TO WASH OUT, BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING AT YOU REAL,
05:33:09PM REAL TIGHT.
05:33:09PM YOUR INTEREST RATE WILL GO UP AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS YOU
05:33:12PM WON'T HAVE SOMETHING TO DO FOR SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU DO
05:33:15PM YOU CAN PART WITH.
05:33:15PM THAT IS ALL I AM SAYING.
05:33:17PM A WARNING.
05:33:17PM MY OWN THOUGHT OF MIND THAT IT ISN'T GENERAL.
05:33:21PM LIKE OPERATING YOUR OWN CHECKBOOK.
05:33:24PM YOU BOUNCE A CHECK ONE TIME, THEY LET IT GO BY.
05:33:28PM NOT THAT WE ARE BOUNCING CHECKS, DON'T GET ME WRONG.
05:33:31PM IF YOU DO THAT CONSTANTLY YOU MAY WANT TO FIND ANOTHER BANK
05:33:35PM BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT HAVE YOU FOR A CLIENT VERY LONG.
05:33:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CHAIR, IF I MAY ADD TO THAT.
05:33:40PM AGAIN, IT IS MY JOB AND MY RESPONSIBILITY AS YOUR CHIEF
05:33:44PM FINANCIAL OFFICER TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE GOING INTO ANY
05:33:46PM DECISION WITH YOUR EYES WIDE OPEN.
05:33:48PM AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, I AM NOT TRYING TO DISSUADE YOU,
05:33:52PM BUT THERE IS, AS WE SAID IN THE PAST, A RISK ASSOCIATED WITH
05:33:56PM LOWERING YOUR FUND BALANCE.
05:33:57PM IN DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS, FOR INSTANCE,
05:34:01PM THE RATING AGENCIES, FOR INSTANCE, WILL LOOK AT AND ONE OF
05:34:06PM THEIR DEFINITION IS A MATERIAL DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE.
05:34:09PM OF COURSE, THEY DON'T TELL YOU WHAT "MATERIAL" IS.
05:34:13PM WHETHER THAT IS 1%, 2%, HALF PERCENT?
05:34:18PM I DON'T KNOW.
05:34:18PM WE ARE VERY, VERY STRONG FINANCIALLY AND FORTUNATE.
05:34:23PM I CREDIT THIS ADMINISTRATION, THIS COUNCIL WITH CONTINUING
05:34:26PM THAT CONSERVATIVE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT PHILOSOPHY.
05:34:30PM AND SO WE HAVE A VERY, VERY GOOD FOUNDATION TO WORK FROM,
05:34:33PM BUT, AGAIN, IT IS MY JOB TO LET YOU KNOW THERE IS SOME RISK
05:34:37PM ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
05:34:38PM THANK YOU.
05:34:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:34:40PM I KNOW THAT YOU ARE CAREFUL.
05:34:41PM AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
05:34:43PM AND, YOU KNOW, BUT -- BUT IF THERE NEEDS TO BE A MOTION MADE
05:34:48PM AFTER DISCUSSION TO ALLOCATE THAT $5 MILLION TOWARD HOUSING,
05:34:52PM IT IS A NECESSITY.
05:34:53PM THE BANKS ASK -- IF THEY MAY OR MAY NOT ASK WHY DID YOU DO
05:34:57PM THIS.
05:34:58PM WE HAVE A HOUSING SITUATION.
05:34:59PM A HOUSING CRISIS.
05:35:00PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:35:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
05:35:02PM APPRECIATE IT.
05:35:03PM AS ALWAYS, MR. ROGERO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
05:35:07PM LIKE THE CHAIRMAN WISELY SAID, THANK YOU TO THE CITY STAFF
05:35:10PM AND EVERYONE WORKING HARD WITH EVERYBODY ON THIS.
05:35:12PM EVERYBODY HE IS WORK IS APPRECIATED AND WHATNOT.
05:35:17PM ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL ALSO URGE CAUTION ON IS HERE, WE
05:35:20PM ARE LOOKING AT PAYING FOR PRIORITIES BY DOING THINGS LIKE
05:35:24PM LOOKING AT THE RESERVES.
05:35:26PM DOING MORE THAN LOOKING AT THE RESERVES.
05:35:29PM GOING INTO THE RESERVES.
05:35:30PM QUOTE, UNQUOTE, TRIMMING THE FAT, SCALING BACK, SPENDING
05:35:35PM PRIORITIES WILL HAVE A SECOND LOOK AT AND ETC.
05:35:39PM APPEARS TO BE A ONE-TIME THING.
05:35:41PM WE CAN'T COME BACK AND DO THE SAME THING.
05:35:45PM WHAT IS PERPLEXING OF THIS, WE HAD THE ADMINISTRATION
05:35:49PM OFFERED A TAX INCREASE THAT WILL PAY FOR $48 MILLION, $48
05:35:54PM MILLION OF NEW SPENDING.
05:35:55PM COUNCIL REJECTED THAT.
05:35:56PM I REJECTED THAT, BY THE WAY, I AM NOT CASTING BLAME ON
05:36:00PM ANYBODY.
05:36:00PM I PROPOSED THE FULL MILLAGE OR ANYTHING NEAR IT.
05:36:03PM BUT THE FLIPSIDE OF THAT, WITHOUT THE REVENUE, IT -- THERE
05:36:07PM ARE SPENDING PRIORITIES THAT THE REVENUE WAS GOING TO FUND.
05:36:09PM AND NOW OUR CHALLENGE IS, LOOKING AT OTHER SOURCES, SPENDING
05:36:14PM CUTS, THE PUSHING OFF OTHER SPENDING PLANS, THE RESERVE,
05:36:19PM ETC., TO PAY FOR SOME OF THOSE SPENDING PRIORITIES.
05:36:22PM WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN DOING THAT BALANCE THAT WE
05:36:26PM DON'T, YOU KNOW, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOMETHING THIS YEAR THAT
05:36:29PM WE MAY NEED NEXT YEAR OR THE YEAR THEREAFTER.
05:36:33PM WE HAVE TO BE GOOD FISCAL STEW STEWARDS IN THAT REGARD.
05:36:37PM LOOKING AT A LOWER RESERVE AND PUSHING OFF PRODUCTS, ETC.
05:36:41PM WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHAT NOT HERE
05:36:45PM AND APPLY THAT LEVEL OF SCRUTINY.
05:36:48PM WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL, AS I SAY, THE THINGS WE DON'T ALWAYS
05:36:52PM GET CALLS ON BECAUSE CONSTITUENTS ASSUME THAT CITY
05:36:56PM GOVERNMENT IS TAKING CARE OF THAT.
05:36:57PM THINGS LIKE WHEN YOU CALL 911 AND A POLICE OFFICER, THEY
05:37:01PM WILL BE THERE.
05:37:01PM SOUTH OF GANDY OR K-BAR RANCH OR DALE MABRY AND YOU CALL A
05:37:07PM FIRE TRUCK THAT THEY WILL BE THERE IN A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF
05:37:11PM TIME.
05:37:11PM YOUR STREETS PAVED AND POTHOLES.
05:37:14PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CORE SERVICES OF THE CITY OF
05:37:17PM TAMPA CONTINUE TO BE WELL-FUNDED AND CERTAINLY SOMETHING
05:37:20PM THAT IS IMPORTANT.
05:37:21PM I TALK A LOT ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND IT IS NUMBER ONE
05:37:27PM FOR CITY OF TAMPA AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
05:37:29PM SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND I TALKED ABOUT IT FOR
05:37:31PM YEARS AND GLAD TO SEE IT FUNDED FOR $50,000 FOR THE PUBLIC
05:37:35PM SAFETY MASTER PLAN HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:37:38PM THE IDEA THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT PUBLIC SAFETY FOR POLICE AND
05:37:42PM FIRE THROUGH A PROACTIVE APPROACH THAT LOOKS LONG-TERM
05:37:45PM OPPOSED TO REACTIVE APPROACH, RIGHT.
05:37:47PM THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED.
05:37:49PM I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS BUDGET AND THE WAY WE HAVE GONE
05:37:53PM AT IT LAST MINUTE ON SOME OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY PRIORITIES,
05:37:56PM IT KIND OF GIVES CREDENCE TO THE PRIORITY OF A PUBLIC MASTER
05:38:01PM PLAN FOR THAT KIND OF FUNDING.
05:38:02PM I TALKED OF A REVENUE SOURCE THAT WILL BE DEDICATED TO THE
05:38:06PM BEST WE CAN DEDICATE IT TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
05:38:09PM I DO BELIEVE LONG TERM, WE LOOK AT SOLID FUNDING SOURCE FOR
05:38:16PM IT.
05:38:17PM IMPACT FEES ARE GREAT.
05:38:18PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT THAT UP.
05:38:20PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK DONE A GREAT JOB OF PUSHING THAT BEFORE.
05:38:26PM THAT IS WONDERFUL.
05:38:27PM AND A SMALL PART OF THE PUZZLE IN MY OPINION WITH RESPONDING
05:38:33PM TO THE NEEDS OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
05:38:34PM WE HAD DISCUSSIONS HOW TO FUND OUR FIRE STATIONS.
05:38:36PM I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FIRE STATION 24 AND FIRE STATION 25
05:38:40PM THAT HELPED OUT THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AND NORTH TAMPA AREA FOR
05:38:44PM TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
05:38:46PM I HAVE A MOTION THAT WILL COME BEFORE US IN DECEMBER.
05:38:49PM MOTION FOR IT TO BE SPED OUT AND GIVEN TO US IN OCTOBER.
05:38:52PM GIVEN THIS BUDGET DISCUSSION TO TALK OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS TO
05:38:56PM PAY FOR OUR FIRE STATION NEEDS.
05:38:59PM I WAS OF THE STRONGEST OPINION THAT THIS BUDGET SHOULD HAVE
05:39:02PM ADDRESSED FIRE STATIONS HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:39:04PM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN FOUND A
05:39:07PM NEED FOR 28 FIRE STATIONS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
05:39:09PM AND I THOUGHT WE SHOULD MAKE SOME PROGRESS.
05:39:13PM I AM IN THAT REGARD.
05:39:14PM I AM VERY GLAD TO SEE THIS BUDGET FUNDS DESIGN FOR STATION
05:39:18PM 24 THAT HAD SOME CHANGES.
05:39:20PM AND, AGAIN, NOT TO REITERATE THE HISTORY OF 24.
05:39:24PM STARTED OFF WITH 24 IN NEW TAMPA AND 25 TO HELP OUT 13 IN
05:39:29PM NORTH TAMPA.
05:39:30PM THEN WENT BACK TO 24 BEING ON FOWLER OPPOSED TO NEW TAMPA.
05:39:33PM A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHANGES THERE AND HAPPY IN THAT REGARD.
05:39:37PM I THINK WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT REVENUE SOURCES, BUT BE
05:39:41PM CAREFUL WHERE WE GET THEM FROM.
05:39:42PM FOR THE RECORD, I STRONGLY, STRONGLY, STRONGLY OPPOSE MOVING
05:39:46PM FUNDS FROM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TAMPA FIRE RESCUE OR
05:39:49PM FROM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO ANYWHERE.
05:39:54PM I STRONGLY OPPOSE THAT.
05:39:56PM WHEN I SAY I SUPPORT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, I SAY ALL OF OUR
05:39:59PM FIRST RESPONDERS JUST LIKE WE SHOULDN'T TAKE MONEY OUT OF
05:40:02PM THE NAVY TO HELP FUND THE AIR FORCE SO, TOO, WE SHOULD
05:40:07PM SUPPORT THAT.
05:40:08PM WE CAN LOOK AT GOVERNMENT BONDS AND DIFFERENT IDEAS TOWARD
05:40:11PM THAT IN THAT REGARD.
05:40:12PM IF I WANTED TO -- IF I MAY -- MAY I HAVE 30 SECONDS.
05:40:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 30 MORE SECONDS.
05:40:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:40:18PM WHEN SPEAKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION, WE HAVE $1.5 MILLION
05:40:21PM HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA BUDGET FOR THE STATION 24 FOR
05:40:25PM DESIGN.
05:40:25PM THIS PROCESS IS GOING TO TAKE NINE TO 12 MONTHS.
05:40:28PM YOU KNOW WITH THIS, WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN HERE
05:40:31PM IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET FOR FIRE STATION 24.
05:40:34PM AND THEN THE BONDS WHICH WILL COME BACK US TO IN DECEMBER.
05:40:39PM I WILL MOTION TO SPEED IT UP TO COME BACK TO US IN OCTOBER
05:40:42PM WITH A BUDGET AFTER THREE MONTHS AND A PLAN OF ACTION THREE
05:40:46PM MONTHS LATER FOR FIRE STATION 24 TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING WE
05:40:55PM CAN FOR 24.
05:40:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:40:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
05:40:58PM GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
05:41:00PM FIRST, I WANT TO SAY, MR. ROGERO AND THE TEAM, THE STAFF
05:41:05PM MEMBERS THAT WORKED ON THIS, BEFORE YOU CAME WITH A
05:41:08PM FIVE-YEAR SUSTAINABLE PLAN.
05:41:09PM AND YOU KNOW THAT LOOKED AT CLOSING THE GAP FOR ALL OF OUR
05:41:14PM DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND THE EXPONENTIAL GROWTH WE WERE
05:41:18PM HAVING IN OUR CITY DOWN TO A ONE-YEAR PLAN.
05:41:21PM THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS, WITH HOPES OF SOME NEW AND
05:41:25PM REOCCURRING REVENUE FOR THE FUTURE.
05:41:28PM BUT REGARDLESS, IT IS APPARENT THAT YOU WORKED TOGETHER TO
05:41:32PM MAKE THE BEST OF IT WITH STAFF AND YOU DID LISTEN TO US.
05:41:35PM AND I DO APPRECIATE A FOCUS ON OUR EMPLOYEES.
05:41:39PM AS I SAID LAST WEEK, YOU KNOW, THE 997 NONUNION EMPLOYEES.
05:41:46PM YOU DEFINITELY KEPT THEM IN MIND AND I APPRECIATED THAT.
05:41:50PM IT LOOKS TO ME THAT EVERYONE IS TAKING A HIT.
05:41:52PM SO THAT, YOU KNOW, NO ONE WOULD BE -- WOULD GO UNSCATHED OR
05:41:58PM LEFT OUT.
05:41:59PM SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS TO TAKE UP MY FIVE MINUTES
05:42:02PM WITH YOU.
05:42:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
05:42:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FIRST OF ALL, IN TERMS OF OUR FUND
05:42:09PM BALANCE AND BOND RATINGS.
05:42:10PM DO THEY TYPICALLY INTERVIEW YOU FOR BOND RATINGS TO ASK FOR
05:42:14PM JUSTIFICATION?
05:42:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ABSOLUTELY.
05:42:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IF YOUR BALANCES ARE DECREASED?
05:42:19PM DO YOU HAVE ANY HISTORY OF THAT WHERE IT IS REDUCED A LITTLE
05:42:23PM BIT AND STAYS AT 20% OR ABOVE OR LOSE A BOND RATING OR
05:42:26PM CREDIT RATING SCORE.
05:42:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT
05:42:31PM HAPPEN.
05:42:31PM I DON'T KNOW IF THE BUDGET OFFICER.
05:42:33PM IN THE 15 YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE, WE HAVE ACCESSED FUND
05:42:37PM BALANCE FOR WHATEVER REASON.
05:42:38PM AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAD A RATINGS
05:42:42PM DOWNGRADE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
05:42:43PM THEY DO THE SURVEILLANCE.
05:42:45PM THEY DO THE DUE DILIGENCE AND THEY INTERVIEW US EXTENSIVELY
05:42:49PM PRIOR TO ISSUING.
05:42:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
05:42:52PM GOOD TO KNOW THAT.
05:42:53PM TAKING A LOOK AT -- DID YOU CONSIDER INCREASING FEES THAT --
05:42:56PM NOTHING TO DO WITH PARKS AND REC.
05:42:58PM ANY OF OUR OTHER GUYS.
05:43:00PM HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT AND INCLUDED THAT IN THE REVENUE?
05:43:02PM I DON'T SEE THAT INITIAL INITIALLY.
05:43:06PM IF SO, WHAT WAS IT?
05:43:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE HAVE NOT.
05:43:09PM WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR LIST WITH COUNCIL'S CONCURRENCE, TO
05:43:13PM ADDRESS THAT ISSUE FOR FISCAL YEAR '24 AND FISCAL YEAR '25.
05:43:19PM THERE ARE -- FORGIVE ME IF I ALREADY SAID THIS BEFORE.
05:43:22PM SOME REVENUES IN THE GENERAL FUND THAT ARE NOT AUTOMATICALLY
05:43:26PM INDEXED TO AN INCREASE WHETHER INFLATION, ETC., ETC.
05:43:31PM WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THIS FOR FISCAL YEAR '24 FOR FISCAL
05:43:36PM YEAR '25 BECAUSE A LITTLE PREMATURE TO PROJECT FOR --
05:43:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BECAUSE OF PROJECTIONS.
05:43:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP YOUR TIME, MAN --
05:43:52PM MA'AM.
05:43:52PM AND IF COUNCIL APPROVES SOONER RATHER THAN LATER THAN WE CAN
05:43:56PM COME BACK TO COUNCIL WITH AN AMENDMENT DURING FISCAL YEAR
05:44:00PM '25 -- I MEAN FISCAL YEAR '24.
05:44:03PM RIGHT NOW OUR SIGHTS ARE ON FISCAL YEAR '25.
05:44:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE SHARED REVENUE.
05:44:09PM THE $2 MILLION UP HAPPY TO FIND.
05:44:12PM I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.
05:44:13PM YOU SAID THAT THE BUDGET IS BALANCED BY NOVEMBER.
05:44:17PM SO THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD HAVE SOME FUNDS LEFT
05:44:20PM OVER FROM THIS FISCAL YEAR?
05:44:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THERE IS.
05:44:22PM WE CLOSED THE BOOKS LITERALLY AS SOON AS THE FISCAL YEAR
05:44:27PM ENDS, BUT WE ARE A BIG ORGANIZATION AND TAKES A GREAT DEAL
05:44:30PM -- WHAT I CONSIDER A GREAT DEAL OF TIME.
05:44:32PM IN NOVEMBER, WE WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS
05:44:35PM YEAR.
05:44:36PM AND WE HAD -- WE HAVE HAD OPPORTUNITIES IN THE -- IN
05:44:39PM PREVIOUS YEARS WHERE THERE IS MORE FUNDING THAN WE
05:44:42PM ANTICIPATED.
05:44:43PM AND WE BRING THAT TO CITY COUNCIL.
05:44:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DID YOU SAY THAT IN A PREVIOUS BUDGET
05:44:48PM PRESENTATION THAT WE SPEND 98% OF OUR BUDGET AND 2%.
05:44:54PM EVEN THE $828,000 LEFT OVER NOT EARMARKED FOR ANYTHING CAN
05:44:59PM GO TOWARD HOUSING OR GO INTO OUR SAVINGS FUND?
05:45:04PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
05:45:06PM BUT, AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY, WE MAKE PROJECTIONS OF WHAT
05:45:10PM STATE WE WILL END AT THIS FISCAL YEAR.
05:45:14PM ALL I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT IT WILL BE WRONG.
05:45:16PM SUCCESS FOR US IS THAT WE ARE A LITTLE BIT WRONG.
05:45:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL RIGHT.
05:45:21PM I WILL CLOSE IT WITH THIS IN TERMS OF -- BECAUSE I AM
05:45:24PM ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT WILL TAKE OWNERSHIP OF LOOKING AT ALL
05:45:27PM THINGS, TRYING TO SAVE OUR EMPLOYEES AND THEIR SALARIES
05:45:30PM ABOUT SOCIAL ACTION FUNDING.
05:45:32PM SO YOU DECIDED AS A GROUP ORGANIZATION, STAFF, WHEN YOU ALL
05:45:37PM WENT TO THE STABLE, YOU DECIDED TO REDUCE SOME EXISTING
05:45:41PM FUNDING AND EVERYTHING THAT IS NEW THAT WAS ASKED FOR YOU
05:45:45PM TOOK IT OFF THE TABLE ALL TOGETHER.
05:45:47PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
05:45:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHY CAN'T IT BE THE OPPOSITE IN TERMS OF
05:45:51PM THAT.
05:45:51PM THE EXISTING FUNDS ARE REDUCED BY $300,000.
05:45:54PM BUT NEVER BEEN GETTING MONEY FOR YEARS.
05:45:57PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, THEY HAVE.
05:45:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND NOT CONSIDERING THE NEW FUNDS THAT
05:46:00PM ARE REQUESTED.
05:46:01PM MAYBE SOMETHING YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
05:46:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
05:46:06PM THANK YOU.
05:46:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE AGREEMENTS.
05:46:09PM REMEMBER LAST WEEK WHEN YOU PRESENTED USED TODAY, $6 MILLION
05:46:15PM AND DOWN TO $4.8 MILLION.
05:46:17PM THOSE AGREEMENTS, CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS THAT YOU SAY WE
05:46:21PM HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH?
05:46:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
05:46:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EVEN THOUGH CONSIDERED CHARITY.
05:46:27PM YOU CART CONTRACTUALLY GO INTO -- GO AHEAD.
05:46:33PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NOT STRAIGHT-UP CHARITY.
05:46:35PM WE ARE GIVING YOU THIS FUNDING AND YOU HAVE CERTAIN NUMBER
05:46:38PM OF METRICS AND SERVICES TO MEET IN ORDER FOR US TO GIVE YOU
05:46:42PM THE FUNDING AND THEY ARE SPELLED OUT IN THE AGREEMENT.
05:46:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: UNDERSTOOD.
05:46:45PM THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT.
05:46:46PM DO WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT DON'T MEET THOSE METRICS?
05:46:52PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD BUT WE
05:46:55PM CAN CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU.
05:46:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL MAKE NOTES TO ASK FOR THOSE IN THE
05:47:00PM FUTURE.
05:47:00PM WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR EVERY DOLLAR.
05:47:03PM WE MADE A MOTION FOR YOU TO COME BACK EVERY MONTH TO TALK
05:47:06PM ABOUT MONEY.
05:47:07PM I WANT TO SAY GREAT JOB.
05:47:08PM I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.
05:47:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
05:47:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND I DEFER TO THE CHAIR.
05:47:14PM THANK YOU.
05:47:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:47:16PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:47:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD EVENING, SIR.
05:47:19PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD EVENING, SIR.
05:47:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WON'T REITERATE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE SAID
05:47:25PM OF THE WORK DONE TO CREATE THIS DOCUMENTS AND LOOKING FOR
05:47:28PM BALANCED BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '24.
05:47:30PM BUT THANK YOU.
05:47:31PM A COUPLE OF THINGS, RESERVES.
05:47:33PM WHY DOES THE CITY HAVE RESERVES?
05:47:38PM I KNOW IT, BUT YOU WANT TO SAY IT.
05:47:42PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE HAVE RESERVES FOR ANY SORT OF REASONS.
05:47:45PM THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO IF A CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE HITS THE
05:47:50PM CITY OF TAMPA.
05:47:51PM WE HAVE $11 MILLION INBOUND FROM HURRICANE IAN.
05:47:58PM WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET.
05:47:59PM I AM NOT THROWING STONES.
05:48:01PM THE REIMBURSEMENT TAKES A LONG TIME.
05:48:08PM WE NEED MONEY TO FLOAT FOR EXPENSES IN THE WAKE OF A
05:48:12PM DISASTER.
05:48:12PM REIMBURSEMENT VERY RARELY IS 100% ANYWAY SO WE NEED A
05:48:19PM COMPONENT.
05:48:19PM A STRONG FUND BALANCE TO THE SHOW MARKET AND SHOW INVESTORS
05:48:23PM PARDON ME AS WE ENTER INTO DEBT.
05:48:25PM SO SHOW ANY AUDIENCE LOOKING AT FINANCIAL METRICS THAT WE
05:48:29PM ARE A VERY STABLE -- THAT IS HOW I WOULD DESCRIBE US, A VERY
05:48:32PM STABLE LOCALITY FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE.
05:48:35PM NOT ONLY ARE WE ABLE TO MEET OUR BILLS, BUT WE HAVE THAT
05:48:41PM STRONG FUND BALANCE.
05:48:42PM WHAT DO THEY SAY OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
05:48:44PM THINGS THAT HAVE NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE HAPPEN ALL THE TIME.
05:48:47PM AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR.
05:48:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
05:48:53PM THANK YOU.
05:48:53PM AND -- AN ASSORTMENT OF OTHER REASONS AS WELL.
05:48:58PM BUT WHEN IT COMES TO RESERVES.
05:49:00PM I BELIEVE YOU SHOWED US A SLIDE LAST WEEK, WE ARE NOT EVEN
05:49:02PM CLOSE TO HISTORIC PERCENTAGE LEVELS WHERE WE HAVE BEEN IN
05:49:06PM THE PAST WITH RESERVES.
05:49:07PM WE HAVE BEEN MUCH HIGHER IN THE PAST THAN WE ARE TODAY.
05:49:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
05:49:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT LIKE WE HAVE A LOT MORE MONEY THAN WE
05:49:14PM EVER HAVE.
05:49:14PM I THINK IT IS KIND OF LIKE BEING A KID IN COLLEGE AND YOU
05:49:17PM SEE YOU HAVE GOT -- -- YOU GET A BUNCH OF MONEY IN YOUR
05:49:21PM ACCOUNT ONE DAY AND YOU GO OUT AND SPEND IT ALL IN ONE DAY.
05:49:24PM WE HAVE TO BE VERY JUDICIOUS HOW WE SEE THAT.
05:49:28PM NOT A PRIVATE KITTY FOR US TO BE DIPPING INTO IN ONE FISCAL
05:49:33PM YEAR AND I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN -- WAS IT VIERA, SOMEBODY OVER
05:49:36PM THERE ON THE DAIS SAID THIS IS A ONE-TIME THING.
05:49:38PM IF THIS MONEY -- SO THIS IS MY FEAR ON SOME OF THESE THINGS
05:49:43PM THAT WE ARE STILL IN THIS BUDGET.
05:49:45PM THIS IS FISCAL YEAR '24.
05:49:47PM WE ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT BACK HERE IN THE SAME PLACE AND
05:49:50PM POSSIBLY IN A WORST-CASE SCENARIO 12 MONTHS FROM NOW
05:49:55PM ESPECIALLY WITH THESE ONE-TIME THINGS.
05:49:56PM THIS DOESN'T SOLVE -- THIS ISN'T A LONG-TERM SOLUTION.
05:50:00PM THIS IS A BAND-AID IN SOME WAYS, A TOURNIQUET ON A BLEEDING
05:50:06PM ARTERY FOR SOME OF THESE PROBLEMS AND DOES NOT PROVIDE REAL
05:50:09PM LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS AS COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON SAID
05:50:13PM SHORT-TERM VERSUS LONG-TERM PLANS.
05:50:15PM A COUPLE OF CONCERNS THAT I HAVE.
05:50:16PM AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WILL OF THIS COUNCIL WILL BE, BUT
05:50:19PM I GOT TO STATE IT FOR THE RECORD.
05:50:20PM DEBT SERVICES.
05:50:21PM I FULLY SUPPORT DEBT SERVICES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT -- FOR
05:50:27PM GENERATIONAL FINANCE.
05:50:28PM THINGS WE HAVE TALKED IN THE PAST.
05:50:30PM IF YOU WERE GOING TO BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION.
05:50:32PM FOLKS IN THE CITY OVER A PERIOD OF TIME THE FIRE STATION IS
05:50:35PM IN USE SHOULD PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE.
05:50:37PM YOU SHOULDN'T BURDEN THE EXISTING CITIZENS KNOWING THAT A
05:50:41PM BUNCH OF PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THE CITY OVER THE X NUMBER OF
05:50:44PM YEARS AND NEW RESIDENTS CAN COME IN AND PAY FOR THAT.
05:50:47PM I THINK IT IS A VERY GOOD WAY OF FINANCING AND SPREADING THE
05:50:50PM COST OF SERVICES ACROSS NEW RESIDENTS AND DIFFERENT
05:50:55PM GENERATIONS.
05:50:56PM I HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME WITH DEBT SERVICES FOR ONE-TIME --
05:51:00PM ONE-TIME GRAB AND GOES.
05:51:02PM LIKE THE REMODEL.
05:51:05PM I THINK THAT SHOULD BE A PAY AS YOU GO.
05:51:06PM REMODEL, A PAY AS YOU GO.
05:51:08PM PAID OUT OF EVERY FISCAL YEAR'S BUDGET.
05:51:12PM ANY OF THESE TOPICS, A ONE-TIME HIT THAT WE WILL BURDEN
05:51:16PM FUTURE GENERATIONS FOR ONE-TIME HIT IN FISCAL '234.
05:51:20PM WHY SHOULD PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE TEN YEARS FROM NOW PAY FOR
05:51:23PM SOMETHING FOR THIS ONE FISCAL YEAR.
05:51:26PM SHOULDN'T BE AMORTIZED OVER THE FISCAL YEAR.
05:51:29PM IF WE CAN AFFORD IT, PAY FOR IT ON THIS BUDGET.
05:51:33PM IF WE CAN'T.
05:51:34PM CALLING YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY AND UPPING YOUR AVAILABLE
05:51:39PM BALANCE SO YOU CAN SPEND MORE THIS YEAR.
05:51:40PM AND I SEE THAT IS IN A LOT OF THIS DISCUSSION THAT -- LOOKS
05:51:45PM TO ME THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING TO DO.
05:51:47PM UP THE CREDIT CARD BALANCE AND SPEND A LOT MORE THIS YEAR IN
05:51:51PM FISCAL YEAR '24 THAT WE COULDN'T OTHERWISE BE ABLE TO AFFORD
05:51:55PM AND JUST PUSH THIS CAN DOWN THE STREET FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO
05:51:58PM PAY FOR IT.
05:51:58PM I AM GLAD YOU ACTUALLY SPECIFIED THAT THE $7 MILLION FOR
05:52:05PM TRANSPORTATION WAS SPECIFICALLY FOR ROADS.
05:52:07PM BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR A COUNCIL
05:52:09PM STIPULATION ON THAT.
05:52:10PM I WANT TO BE SHARE THAT MUD IS JUST GO IN FOR PAVING OUR
05:52:14PM ROADS.
05:52:14PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
05:52:15PM I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE 10% REDUCTION FOR CITY-OWNED
05:52:20PM ASSETS.
05:52:20PM PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW, THE CITY OWNS THE AQUARIUM.
05:52:25PM THE CITY OWNS FACILITY AND BUILDINGS TO MAINTAIN.
05:52:28PM IS THAT 10% CUT FROM FISCAL YEAR '23 MONEY.
05:52:32PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: '24.
05:52:35PM PROSPECTIVE.
05:52:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
05:52:38PM WASN'T AN ACTUAL REDUCTION BUT A CUT IN INCREASE?
05:52:41PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: REDUCTION TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
05:52:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WEREN'T GETTING
05:52:47PM CUT.
05:52:47PM THAT IS INFRASTRUCTURE WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN.
05:52:48PM AND I AM ALL ABOUT MAINTAINING OUR STUFF.
05:52:51PM THANK YOU.
05:52:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:52:52PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:52:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
05:52:54PM I AM GOING TO ECHO EVERYONE'S THANKS.
05:52:56PM YOU DID A PHENOMENAL JOB IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
05:53:01PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GREAT TEAM EFFORT, THANK YOU.
05:53:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU TOOK OUR THOUGHTS TOGETHER.
05:53:04PM ONE THING THAT IS STILL A BIG QUESTION MARK FOR ME AND I
05:53:07PM THINK OTHER PEOPLE TOUCHED ON IT TODAY IS BONDING.
05:53:10PM WE HAVE ASKED FOR THE CAPACITY OF BONDING AND I THINK THAT
05:53:14PM IS A BIG QUESTION MARK THAT MAKES IT REALLY HARD FOR ME TO
05:53:16PM APPROVE THIS BUDGET WITHOUT KNOWING HOW MUCH WE CAN REALLY
05:53:21PM BOND AND WHERE WE WOULD BE.
05:53:24PM A BRIDGE IS JUST A SNAPSHOT IN TIME.
05:53:28PM IT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO BUDGET FORWARD BUT WE DON'T
05:53:31PM KNOW WHAT OUR REVENUE WILL BE EVERY YEAR.
05:53:33PM I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO FOR HIS PUSH TO USE
05:53:36PM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE FOR HOUSING.
05:53:39PM 1%.
05:53:40PM I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE COST OF THOSE 30 FIRE
05:53:48PM FIGHTER PARAMEDIC POSITIONS.
05:53:48PM WHAT IS THE COST FOR ONE YEAR OF 30 PARAMEDIC FIRE FIGHTERS?
05:53:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: JUST ABOUT $3 MILLION.
05:53:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
05:53:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: COMES DOWN TO $100,000 OFFICER FTE.
05:54:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I THOUGHT.
05:54:05PM I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
05:54:07PM I DON'T KNOW IF OUR -- IF MR. STOCCO IS HERE.
05:54:12PM QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU.
05:54:13PM I ASKED MR. STOCCO.
05:54:17PM AND HE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE FIRE FIGHTER UNION, WHEN I
05:54:21PM HEARD WE WEREN'T GETTING THOSE OFFICER -- OR THE FIRE
05:54:25PM FIGHTER PARAMEDICS THAT WE POSSIBLY MIGHT NOT GET THE GRANT
05:54:28PM AND BY THE WAY, WE HAVE NOT HEARD YET.
05:54:30PM WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING.
05:54:31PM BUT I ASKED YOU TO ASK AROUND TO SEE WHY OR ACTUALLY YOU DID
05:54:36PM IT ON YOUR OWN -- WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT AND YOU CALLED ME
05:54:39PM BACK AND SAID, YEAH, THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
05:54:41PM PEOPLE HAVE SAID.
05:54:43PM THE THING THAT SURPRISED ME THE MOST IS THAT YOU SAID WHEN
05:54:46PM YOU TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE IN THE NATIONAL OFFICE, ONE OF THE
05:54:49PM REASONS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE RECIPIENTS OF THE
05:54:53PM GRANT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO MUCH IN RESERVES.
05:54:55PM >> NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT, TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS LOCAL 754.
05:55:03PM ONE OF THE CONCERNS FROM OUR INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATE LEADERS
05:55:07PM THAT BY WAY OF GRANTS, THEY WOULD PRIORITIZE WHICH EMPLOYERS
05:55:11PM OR JURISDICTIONS WOULD RECEIVE FUNDING IN THAT THE CITY OF
05:55:15PM TAMPA COULD POTENTIALLY NOT BE AT TOP OF THE LIST BECAUSE OF
05:55:19PM OUR RESERVE BALANCE.
05:55:20PM THAT IS JUST WHAT WAS EXPLAINED TO MY BY THE INTERNATIONAL.
05:55:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT THAT WAS INTERESTING.
05:55:25PM AGAIN, NOT COMING FROM YOU PERSONALLY, BUT SOMETHING YOU
05:55:27PM HEARD.
05:55:27PM AND I THOUGHT THAT THE PUBLIC DESERVED TO HEAR THAT TOO.
05:55:32PM MAY HELP BALANCE OUT.
05:55:34PM $9 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS AND WE ARE LOOKING AT SIMPLY
05:55:37PM TAKING $5 MILLION OUT FOR ONE YEAR.
05:55:39PM AND I -- I DON'T LIKE THE BALANCE OF THAT.
05:55:42PM WHETHER OR NOT, AGAIN -- I DON'T WANT SAY THAT IS 100% OF A
05:55:48PM REASON, BUT THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
05:55:50PM A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THE -- THAT DON'T
05:55:55PM HAVE THE RESERVES WE DO AND, THEREFORE, COULD BE PUT HIGHER.
05:55:59PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
05:55:59PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
05:56:05PM AS FAR AS DEBT SERVICE FOR STATION 24 -- OH, I HAD A
05:56:11PM QUESTION.
05:56:11PM I -- I AM GLAD YOU SAID THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN -- WITH
05:56:15PM PUBLIC SAFETY.
05:56:16PM YOU MENTIONED POLICE VEHICLES AND BUDGET FOR CIT AND YOU
05:56:19PM MEANT POLICE AND FIRE.
05:56:20PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
05:56:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ALLOCATIONS FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
05:56:25PM EACH GETTING $8 MILLION?
05:56:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
05:56:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR CHIEF TRIPP.
05:56:34PM IS SHE --
05:56:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF TRIPP, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP?
05:56:38PM SHE IS IN THE BACK.
05:56:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
05:56:54PM IF YOU HAVE THE $8 MILLION FOR THE CIT MONEY, WOULD YOU
05:56:58PM RATHER SPEND IT ON NEW VEHICLES OR ON STATION 24?
05:57:07PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF OF TAMPA FIRE
05:57:11PM RESCUE.
05:57:12PM WHEN YOU SAY $8 MILLION, THE CIT MONEY.
05:57:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SIMPLY THE CIT.
05:57:18PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: FOR ONE YEAR?
05:57:19PM I WOULD BUILD A STATION.
05:57:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUILD A STATION.
05:57:22PM OKAY.
05:57:22PM SO THIS IS WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN.
05:57:24PM AND, AGAIN, I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE ASKED NOT -- TO NOT SAY
05:57:28PM SPECIFICS, BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WE HAVE LAND.
05:57:31PM WE HAVE A SURVEY OF THAT LAND.
05:57:32PM AND WE HAVE AN OLD FIRE STATION'S DESIGN THAT WE ARE GOING
05:57:37PM TO REUSE.
05:57:42PM HAVE TWEAKS TO FIT IN THE CURRENT SITE.
05:57:44PM AM I ON THE CORRECT PATH WHAT THE GOAL IS FOR STATION 24?
05:57:49PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: YES, MA'AM.
05:57:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO NOT BELIEVE.
05:57:55PM I TO NOT BELIEVE IT WILL TAKE A FULL YEAR TO MODIFY THAT.
05:57:58PM I THINK IT IS MORE REALISTIC OF A SIX-MONTH TIME FRAME AND
05:58:02PM THEN TO TAKE THAT $8 MILLION FROM THE CIT AND START DIGGING
05:58:09PM WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FUND THE WHOLE THING THIS YEAR, BUT I
05:58:14PM DON'T SEE A REASON TO PUT THE SHOVEL IN THE GROUND IN FISCAL
05:58:17PM YEAR '24 WITH THESE MONIES WE CAN ALLOCATE.
05:58:20PM I SEE MISS DUNCAN.
05:58:27PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, JEAN DUNCAN,
05:58:30PM DIRECTOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE MOBILITY.
05:58:32PM OUR DEPARTMENT IS A SUPPORT TEAM TO ANY CONSTRUCTION OF OUR
05:58:36PM OTHER DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS FIRE AND POLICE WOULD DO.
05:58:38PM I DON'T HAVE THE PARTICULARS ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE BUT I
05:58:42PM CAN TELL YOU THAT WE CAN'T JUST TWEAK AN EXISTING DESIGN I
05:58:48PM CAN JUST GIVE YOU AN WE HAVE A CONSULTANT TO TAKE SIX
05:58:56PM MONTHS.
05:58:56PM WE HAVE GOT TO DO A SITE ANALYSIS, DO THE DESIGN WHICH
05:59:00PM REQUIRES PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
05:59:02PM AND THEN PERMITTING COORDINATION AS WELL.
05:59:04PM S.W.F.W.M.D. AND OTHER AGENCIES.
05:59:07PM SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME REALISM REGARDING THE
05:59:15PM ASSUMPTIONS WHEN THE GROUND WILL BE BROKEN FOR STATION 24.
05:59:18PM WE CAN MAP OUT A SCHEDULE ONCE WE KNOW THE FUNDING
05:59:23PM OPPORTUNITIES, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING A TIME FRAME WE WOULD
05:59:25PM BE LOOKING AT LEAST A YEAR FOR THE DESIGN TO BE COMPLETED.
05:59:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT, BUT THE EAST
05:59:32PM TAMPA REC COMPLEX WAS A PRIORITY OF COUNCIL TO BE RUSHED
05:59:36PM THROUGH.
05:59:36PM AND A PRIORITY OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET
05:59:42PM THAT DONE WITH A MUCH LARGER SITE WITH MUCH MORE -- MANY
05:59:45PM MORE DIFFERENT THINGS.
05:59:48PM I BELIEVE THAT THIS COUNCIL SAID THAT STATION 24 IS A
05:59:56PM PRIORITY AND ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO GET THE SHOVEL IN THE
06:00:00PM GROUND BEFORE FY '24 CAN HAPPEN.
06:00:05PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE CAN COMMIT FOR MAKING IT A PRIORITY BUT
06:00:08PM CERTAIN TIME FRAMES THAT WE CAN SHRINK SO MUCH.
06:00:10PM I WANT TO BE FORTHCOMING AND HONEST AT THIS POINT IN TIME
06:00:13PM AND NOT MISLEAD ANYONE.
06:00:16PM BUT WE WILL MAKE IT A PRIORITY AND MAKE ANY RUSH THAT WE
06:00:21PM POSSIBLY COULD.
06:00:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO BELIEVE WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL AND THE
06:00:25PM CHIEF THIS IS THE PRIORITY FOR THIS YEAR.
06:00:28PM AND I HAD ONE MORE QUESTION OF THE PAL POSITIONS.
06:00:30PM AND I THINK IT IS ACTUALLY FOR MR. ROGERO REALLY.
06:00:35PM SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT SOME OF THAT IS MOVING FROM
06:00:42PM PARKS AND REC AND IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO US.
06:00:48PM WHEN CHIEF BERCAW CAME UP SAID ALLOWING THE CITIZENS OR
06:00:53PM EMPLOYEES WHO WANT TO GO TO --
06:00:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE CAN FINISH HER QUESTION.
06:01:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO FINISH THIS QUESTION.
06:01:02PM THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO MOVE OVER.
06:01:04PM AND HOW MUCH OF THE MONEY -- HAND THIS SAYS CONTINUING
06:01:08PM SERVICE COST AND P.A.L. POSITIONS RETAINS THAT MOVING FROM
06:01:15PM PARKS AND REC LIKE WE THINK IT IS?
06:01:18PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT COMPONENT IS NOT.
06:01:20PM ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
06:01:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE WE STILL MOVING THINGS?
06:01:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT I WILL HAVE TO DEFER TO THE CHIEF.
06:01:25PM >> CAN YOU CLARIFY THE QUESTION AGAIN.
06:01:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN YOU EXPLAINED THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
06:01:33PM WANTED TO TAKE OVER PAL, THAT THE PEOPLE WORKING IN P.A.L.
06:01:39PM UNDER PARKS AND REC WOULD MOVE OVER AND THE MONEY FOR THE
06:01:42PM SERVICES FOR THE PROGRAMMING WOULD ALSO BE MOVING OVER.
06:01:45PM >> I AM NOT SURE I AM QUITE FOLLOWING YOU, BUT THERE ARE NEW
06:01:50PM POSITIONS.
06:01:50PM AND THOSE IN THE CURRENT POSITIONS AT PARKS AND REC
06:02:00PM WITH P.A.L. WITH APPLY FOR THOSE POSITIONS RATHER THAN
06:02:04PM SOMEWHERE ELSE OF PARKS AND REC IF THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE
06:02:07PM GOING.
06:02:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT SAYS $500,000 MORE FOR POLICE ATHLETIC
06:02:13PM LEAGUE NEW POSITIONS.
06:02:14PM I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF WE ARE REPLACING THE PARKS
06:02:17PM AND REC MONEY OR ACOR IN ADDITION TO PARKS AND REC.
06:02:23PM >> NEW POSITIONS AND THE PARKS AND REC WILL BE REALLOCATED
06:02:27PM AND IF THEY CHOOSE, THEY CAN APPLY FOR THAT POSITION AND
06:02:30PM STAY THERE.
06:02:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ABOUT THEIR SALARIES?
06:02:38PM MAYBE OCEA WYNN CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
06:02:41PM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
06:02:46PM THE PARKS AND RECREATION EMPLOYEES AT P.A.L. THEY WERE TAKE
06:02:52PM IN OTHER AREAS AND THOSE EMPLOYEES WILL GO BACK TO THOSE
06:02:56PM AREAS.
06:02:57PM WHAT CHIEF BERCAW IS MENTIONS ONCE THE POSITIONS ARE
06:03:03PM SOLIDIFIED, IF THEY WANT TO APPLY FOR THE NEW POSITIONS TO
06:03:08PM STAY WITHIN P.A.L. THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY DO THAT.
06:03:11PM BUT THOSE EMPLOYEES WILL GO BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.
06:03:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF THEY DECIDE TO GO TO P.A.L. A POSITION
06:03:20PM WILL HOPE.
06:03:21PM >>OCEA WYNN: A MOTION OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
06:03:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU GOT MORE PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THIS P.A.L.
06:03:27PM MOVEMENT?
06:03:28PM >>OCEA WYNN: YES.
06:03:28PM WE GOT MORE PEOPLE.
06:03:30PM BUT UNDERSTAND THIS, THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE -- THAT WE ARE
06:03:33PM -- THAT WE ARE REPURPOSING, WE ARE DOING.
06:03:38PM WE ARE NOT DOING AS MUCH WITHIN THOSE PARKS AND RECREATION
06:03:41PM BECAUSE THEY WERE THOSE BODIES THAT WERE TAKEN FROM OTHER
06:03:45PM AREAS THAT WERE NOW MOVING BACK.
06:03:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
06:03:52PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP.
06:03:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK STAFF AGAIN AND THE MAYOR
06:04:06PM FOR GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND LOOKING AT IT.
06:04:08PM IT IS A DIFFICULT PROCESS AND WE ARE BETTER OFF FOR THE
06:04:11PM COMMUNITY TO HAVING DONE ALL THIS.
06:04:13PM REMEMBER -- REMEMBER TWO WEEKS AGO, THE ADMINISTRATION
06:04:18PM TALKED ABOUT -- OR EVEN BEYOND THAT, THEY TALKED OF FOUR
06:04:21PM THINGS -- I CALL THEM FIVE THINGS, POLICE, FIRE, AFFORDABLE
06:04:25PM HOUSING, PARKS AND ROADS.
06:04:26PM AND -- AND -- THE WAY I DESCRIBED IT IS, IF YOU PUT A BUCKET
06:04:32PM OF WATER IN A LAKE AND YOU PULL OUT A BUCKET, IT IS NOT THE
06:04:36PM SAME BUCKET.
06:04:37PM AND SO THE DIRECTION WE GAVE LAST WEEK WAS, WE DON'T WANT TO
06:04:42PM TOUCH THOSE FIVE THINGS.
06:04:43PM I UNDERSTAND FROM A MESSAGING OR POLITICAL POINT OF VIEW HOW
06:04:46PM IT IS HANDY TO BE ABLE TO FOCUS ON THOSE FIVE THINGS, BUT
06:04:49PM NONE OF US WANT TO CUT THEM.
06:04:51PM THOSE ARE -- BY LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, THOSE WERE NOT THE
06:04:55PM THINGS FUNDED BY THE INCREASE.
06:04:56PM THE INCREASE WAS FUNDING SALARIES.
06:04:59PM AND THEN THERE WERE OTHER EXPENDITURES THAT HAVE COME
06:05:02PM THROUGH.
06:05:02PM SO IT IS JUST THAT WE -- WE NEED TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS ON
06:05:08PM THIS.
06:05:08PM WHEN I MET WITH THE MAYOR LAST WEEK, I ASKED THAT CITY
06:05:12PM COUNCIL BE MORE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS GOING FORWARD AND
06:05:14PM MAYBE WE START RIGHT AWAY IN A WEEK OR WHENEVER WE ARE DONE
06:05:18PM WITH THIS TO START ON THE IN MECHANICS BUDGET PROCESS.
06:05:20PM SOMEBODY COMPARED TO THE COUNTY.
06:05:21PM I TALKED TO A COUPLE OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND THEIR
06:05:24PM ADMINISTRATOR BONNIE WEISS SITS DOWN WITH THE COUNTY
06:05:29PM COMMISSIONERS AND BUILD A BUDGET.
06:05:31PM WE ONLY FOUND ABOUT A MONTH WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS AND TO HAVE
06:05:35PM A COLLABORATIVE.
06:05:36PM PHILOSOPHICAL DIFFERENCE OF SAVING VERSUS SPENDING.
06:05:40PM I POINTED OUT MANY THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE SPENT -- FOCUS
06:05:44PM ON THINGS THAT ARE NICE TO HAVE, LEGACY ISSUES RATHER THAN
06:05:47PM -- RATHER THAN SAVING HANNA AVENUE IS THE BIGGEST ONE AND
06:05:56PM WHERE TOO MUCH MONEY IS SPENT.
06:05:58PM GOING FORWARD, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A BUDGET PROBLEM AT
06:06:00PM ALL.
06:06:01PM IF WE HAVE A BUDGET PROBLEM GOING FORWARD AND CAUSED BY
06:06:04PM SALARIES, IT MEANS SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE BRIEFED US A YEAR
06:06:07PM AGO THAT THE SALARY INCREASES WILL CAUSE US TO NEED MORE
06:06:09PM REVENUE AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE MADE THE DECISION AND WE MADE
06:06:12PM IT BASED ON THE TRUST AND STAFF THAT WE HAD THE REVENUES TO
06:06:15PM COVER IT.
06:06:15PM IF WE NEED ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT.
06:06:20PM WE NEED TO TIGHTEN OUR BELT BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT OUR
06:06:23PM CITIZENS ARE DOING.
06:06:23PM ANYBODY BELOW $200,000 -- A LOT OF PEOPLE BELOW $200,000
06:06:27PM FEEL LIKE WE ARE IN A RECESSION AND WE MAY BE IN A RECESSION
06:06:31PM AND WE NEED TO START SPENDING MONEY JUST LIKE OUR TAXPAYERS
06:06:35PM DO.
06:06:35PM SO FOLKS TALKED ABOUT BONDING AND DEBT.
06:06:38PM I AM AGAINST ANY MORE DEBT UNTIL WE GET -- MAYBE AT ALL --
06:06:42PM UNTIL WE HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY ON ALL OF IT AND WE NEED AND
06:06:45PM ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES STAFF TO COME BEFORE US AND TELL US
06:06:48PM WHAT THE BOND CAPACITY IS.
06:06:49PM AND WE NEED TO WORK INTERACTIVELY WITH THE MAYOR TO FIGURE
06:06:53PM OUT HOW THE MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT.
06:06:55PM WE SHOULD NOT AT THE LAST MINUTE START BONDING ANYTHING.
06:06:57PM WHAT WE ARE DOING IS PUTTING BURDEN ON FOLKS IN THE FUTURE.
06:07:01PM I HAVE BEEN A MAJOR ADVOCATE OF INCLUDING THE RESERVE --
06:07:05PM INCREASING THE RESERVES.
06:07:06PM LAST ADMINISTRATION WAS INCREDIBLY RECKLESS OF SPENDING TOO
06:07:10PM MUCH OF THE RESERVES DOWN THAT PAM IORIO HAD SPENT, SAVED.
06:07:14PM AND WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM.
06:07:15PM SO THAT IS A SEGUE INTO THE FIRST PAGE HERE WHERE IT SAYS
06:07:19PM GENERAL FUND BALANCE FOR HOUSING.
06:07:21PM ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE POLITICAL THINGS ABOUT -- JUST LIKE THE
06:07:25PM -- THE CLAIM THAT THE NEW TAX WE ARE PAYING FOR THE FIVE
06:07:28PM THINGS WHEN THEY WEREN'T.
06:07:30PM IF YOU POUR -- JUST LIKE IF YOU POUR A BUCKET OF WATER IN A
06:07:33PM LAKE, IT IS NOT THE SAME THING.
06:07:35PM CONNECTING THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE WITH HOUSING IS A
06:07:37PM POLITICAL PLOY.
06:07:39PM IT IS NOT ACCURATE.
06:07:41PM WE NEED TO SEPARATE THOSE.
06:07:42PM IT IS NOT ACCURATE.
06:07:43PM NOT A CHOICE BETWEEN HOUSING WITH I IS ESSENTIAL AND WHETHER
06:07:46PM WE TAP INTO THE -- INTO THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
06:07:49PM I HAVE BEEN A PRIMARY ADVOCATE OF PUTTING MONEY IN THE
06:07:53PM GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
06:07:54PM TAKING OUT 1% WILL HAVE ZERO IMPACT ON OUR BOND CAPACITY.
06:08:02PM IF WE HAVE TWO OR THREE ABOVE THAT OUR RAINY DAY FUND.
06:08:06PM WE HAD A CRISIS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WITH COVID.
06:08:09PM WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT IS COMING UP.
06:08:12PM AND WE NEED TO PROTECT THE FUND BALANCE.
06:08:14PM TAKING OUT $5 MILLION.
06:08:16PM IT IS NOT GOING TO GO TO HOUSING BUT IN THE POT.
06:08:19PM WE NEED TO SEPARATE THAT.
06:08:20PM SOMEBODY SAYS GENERAL FUND FOR HOUSING RATHER.
06:08:25PM IT IS A POLITICAL PLOY, AND I THINK IT IS DISHONEST TO THE
06:08:31PM PUBLIC.
06:08:32PM LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, PAVING, $4.1 MILLION.
06:08:35PM $4.1 MILLION WAS IN THE BUDGET AND NOW ADDING IN SEVEN FROM
06:08:41PM THE PARKING APP.
06:08:42PM DO WE HAVE 11 OR 7.
06:08:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: 11.
06:08:46PM THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION.
06:08:48PM ALL OF THE NUMBERS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT JUST TO
06:08:51PM CLARIFY ARE INCREASES, SIR.
06:08:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVE 11.
06:08:54PM 4.1.
06:08:55PM THE CONCERN -- THE REASON WHY THE ROADS ARE NOT REPAIRED
06:08:58PM BECAUSE THE LAST TWO ADMINISTRATIONS COUNTED ON
06:09:01PM TRANSPORTATION COMING THROUGH AND LEFT THE ROAD REPAIR, 4.1
06:09:05PM EVEN THOUGH THE OVERALL BUDGET MORE THAN DOUBLED.
06:09:07PM WE SHOULD HAVE INCREASED IT.
06:09:08PM AND SHOULDN'T TIE IT JUST TO GAS TAX.
06:09:11PM USE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES FOR IT.
06:09:13PM NOT ACCEPTABLE THE WAY THE ROADS ARE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO
06:09:17PM MOVED HERE DURING COVID ARE LEAVING BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE
06:09:19PM THE STATUS OF THESE THINGS.
06:09:21PM NOT BECAUSE WE REDUCED THE MILLAGE INCREASES BECAUSE MONEY
06:09:24PM WAS SPENT ON OTHER THINGS LIKE HANNA AVENUE THAT SHOULD HAVE
06:09:27PM BEEN SPENT ON ROADS.
06:09:28PM WE TALKED ABOUT THE FUND FOR 18 FIRE FIGHTERS.
06:09:31PM SO THAT IS ABOUT 1.8 MILLION.
06:09:34PM THE GRANT DOES COME TRUE AND HAS NOT BEEN OFFICIALLY
06:09:38PM REJECTED YET.
06:09:38PM IF THE IT DOES NOT COME THROUGH, ALLOCATE THE 1.8 MILLION AS
06:09:43PM A BACK-UP.
06:09:44PM I WOULD LIKE TO DOCUMENT THAT TONIGHT.
06:09:46PM IF THE GRANT COMES THROUGH, WE WILL DECIDE WHAT THE 1.8 GOES
06:09:50PM FOR CHIEF TRIPP AND WILL STOCCO, CAN WE REALLOCATE THAT.
06:09:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE CAN.
06:09:58PM AND COUNCIL'S FLEXIBILITY -- IF WE GET THE GRANT, WE WILL
06:10:03PM BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL TO APPROPRIATE AS YOU SEE FIT.
06:10:06PM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE COMMITMENT NOW, IT REDUCES YOUR
06:10:09PM FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE.
06:10:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE WE NEED TO ADOPT
06:10:14PM TO.
06:10:15PM YOU MENTIONED CIT SEVERAL TIMES.
06:10:17PM WAS CIT NOT ANTICIPATED IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGET?
06:10:20PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT WAS.
06:10:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: INCREASES IN CIT OR REMOVING IT AROUND.
06:10:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX REMAINS STATIC
06:10:32PM DURING THIS PROCESS WE WERE GOING TO AUGMENT WITH GENERAL
06:10:36PM FUND BUT SOLELY COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX.
06:10:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY MANY PEOPLE GAVE US INPUT FROM
06:10:41PM THE COMMUNITY, BUT ON THE $7 MILLION FOR THE PARKING APP,
06:10:46PM THAT IDEA WAS THE COMBINATION OF MICHAEL BISHOP AND
06:10:49PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
06:10:51PM I WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR HARD WORK TO LOOK THROUGH
06:10:54PM THAT.
06:10:55PM A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND ONE OF THE
06:10:58PM BIGGEST ONE WE FOUND.
06:10:59PM MAYBE OTHERS AS WELL.
06:11:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 30 MORE SECONDS, SIR.
06:11:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PICKLEBALL.
06:11:12PM WE SHOULD TAKE THE PICKLEBALL OUT.
06:11:15PM I AM GOING TO TAKE HEAT FROM THE PICKLEBALL.
06:11:18PM >> IT'S HIM!
06:11:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: PLEASE SEND ME E-MAILS, I WOULD LOVE IT.
06:11:22PM THE TWO BIGGEST BASEBALL FIELDS IN SOUTH TAMPA ARE
06:11:25PM FALLING APART AND DANGEROUS FOR KIDS.
06:11:28PM I WOULD RATHER REALLOCATE THAT MONEY.
06:11:30PM IF EXIST FACILITIES ARE FALLING APART, WE CAN'T DO IT.
06:11:34PM ALSO I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE LOBBYISTS
06:11:38PM AND LOOK AT THE STAFF THAT IS NOT HAPPENING CITY COUNCIL AND
06:11:41PM LOOK AT THE RIVER GREEN, THE EDC AND EVENTUALLY THE CRA.
06:11:47PM ONE LAST THING, I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE TITLE OF THE EDC
06:11:52PM TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THEIR CONTRACT IS STILL
06:11:55PM COMING UP AND POLITICAL SUICIDE FOR US TO LEAVE THAT MONEY
06:11:58PM IN THE EDC.
06:11:59PM WE WILL END UP WITH THE SAME TERRIBLE ECONOMIC NUMBERS IF WE
06:12:05PM CONTINUE TO OUTSOURCE THAT.
06:12:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MR. CHAIR, IF I CAN CLARIFY AN ANSWER -- A
06:12:10PM FEW QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED.
06:12:12PM THANK YOU.
06:12:12PM AND PERHAPS THIS IS CLEAR, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE IT SO WE
06:12:18PM TALKED OF FIRE STATION 24.
06:12:19PM THE $20 MILLION IN POTENTIAL DEBT FUNDING IS SEPARATE AND
06:12:24PM APART FROM THE $1.5 MILLION IN THERE FOR DESIGN FOR FIRE
06:12:28PM STATION 234.
06:12:29PM JUST SO EVERYBODY IS CLEAR ON THAT.
06:12:31PM I APPRECIATE THE SENSITIVITY OF THE FUND BALANCE AND USE FOR
06:12:34PM THE ONE-TIME EXPENSE.
06:12:36PM AND IT -- AGAIN, IF -- IF THAT $5 MILLION WAS OBLIGATED FOR
06:12:41PM RECURRING TO EXPENSE, THAT IS EVEN MORE OF A RISK IN THE
06:12:44PM EYES OF THE MARKET AND THE CREDIT RATING AGENCIES.
06:12:47PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND I THINK A FEW OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS
06:12:50PM ALSO ASKED ABOUT OUR DEBT CAPACITY.
06:12:52PM I HAVE THAT.
06:12:55PM FOR THE GENERAL GOVERNMENT FUND, APPROXIMATELY $1.3 BILLION.
06:12:59PM THAT IS HOW MUCH -- THAT IS NOT HOW MUCH WE HAVE ISSUED IN
06:13:05PM DEBT SERVICE, BUT HOW MUCH WE CAN ISSUE IN DEBT SERVICE.
06:13:08PM RIGHT NOW IN GENERAL GOVERNMENT, ISSUED $550 MILLION.
06:13:12PM SO OUR LEGAL CAPACITY IS $1.3 BILLION.
06:13:16PM AND WE WORK WITH OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS TO ARRIVE AT THAT
06:13:19PM FIGURE.
06:13:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
06:13:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AN IOU -- WELL, THAT I OWED YOU.
06:13:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GETTING THAT.
06:13:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO, BEFORE I GO TO PUBLIC
06:13:32PM COMMENT, $1.8 MILLION FOR FIRE FIGHTERS TO GET THOSE
06:13:36PM POSITIONS.
06:13:36PM IF WE GET THE GRANT, IT WILL COME BACK TO US TO HAVE THE 1.8
06:13:40PM MILLION TO BE REALLOCATED.
06:13:42PM FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE WANT TO PUT THAT TOWARD STATION 24 AND
06:13:45PM UTILIZES THAT, THAT WILL BE COUNCIL'S DECISION TO DO THAT?
06:13:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
06:13:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER
06:13:56PM MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
06:13:57PM YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK OF THE BUDGET.
06:13:59PM GO AHEAD.
06:14:00PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
06:14:01PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:14:02PM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
06:14:03PM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
06:14:06PM I LIVE IN WEST TAMPA THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY CORPORATION.
06:14:10PM THE ONE THING WE DO KNOW, A DIFFERENCE EXPERIENCE OF INCOME.
06:14:15PM SOMETHING THAT IS GOING ON AND WITHER IN REAL TROUBLE.
06:14:20PM I WANT TO TALK OF SUGGESTED APPROACHES TO INCREASING
06:14:24PM REVENUES TO DEAL WITH THE CRITICAL ISSUE.
06:14:27PM STARTING WITH THE CRA.
06:14:30PM BENEFIT WITH THE CDC.
06:14:34PM THE TITLE IS REDUCE GENTRIFICATION BY DESIGN AND INTENTION.
06:14:40PM THERE WAS A STUDY DONE BY HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSION.
06:14:45PM THEY FOUND THAT IN WEST TAMPA AND EAST TAMPA, THESE
06:14:50PM COMMUNITIES WERE SUGGESTED TO REALIGNING SINCE 196.
06:14:55PM THAT MEANS THAT PRIOR TO 1936, THERE WAS A BLACK
06:15:02PM AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
06:15:03PM WE BELIEVE THAT IN ORDER TO FIX THIS, NEED TO INCREASE
06:15:08PM FUNDING TO BOTH COMMUNITY IN EAST TAMPA AND WEST TAMPA.
06:15:12PM THAT DOESN'T MEAN LIKE THEY DID IN EAST TAMPA -- EAST TAMPA
06:15:16PM IT DOING A LOT OF THINGS WITH $25 MILLION.
06:15:19PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT $50 MILLION TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.
06:15:23PM ALSO INCREASE WHAT IS KNOWN AS PROGRAM-RELATED INVESTMENT
06:15:27PM LOANS.
06:15:27PM THESE LOANS ARE ANYWHERE FROM ZERO TO -- TO LOW OR VERY LOW
06:15:35PM INTEREST.
06:15:36PM THEY CAN BE PROVIDED TO HELP IN TERMS OF WELFARE OF
06:15:43PM BUSINESSES AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
06:15:45PM A LOT OF DOLLARS THAT CAN COME TO THIS TYPE OF FUNDING.
06:15:50PM AND FINALLY, EAST TAMPA WAS NAME NEWS FOR THIS.
06:15:54PM PEOPLE THAT HAVE FULL CREDIT OR NO CREDIT BUT HAD A BANK ID.
06:16:01PM THERE IS STILL WORK TO BE DONE WAS IN BOSTON.
06:16:04PM WHAT THEY DID WAS TO PROVIDE -- SORRY.
06:16:11PM WHAT THEY DID WAS TO PROVIDE -- PROVIDE LOANS TO MINORITY
06:16:18PM BUSINESSES AND.
06:16:18PM HE SPECIFICALLY -- THAT INCLUDED ADVISORS, OPERATION OF
06:16:26PM SUPPORT, GROWTH, AND GET THIS, EXTENDING ASSETS TO SUPPLIERS
06:16:33PM AND CORPORATE PROCUREMENT OPPORTUNITIES.
06:16:37PM THIS CHANGES THE WHOLE NARRATIVE.
06:16:39PM AND DEVELOPERS ARE IN SHOULD BE A TEST TO DECIDE WHETHER OR
06:16:47PM NOT IN WEST AND EAST TAMPA, A TEST WHETHER THERE IS
06:16:53PM GENTRIFICATION.
06:16:54PM THAT CAN BE DONE ANYWHERE FROM EMPLOYMENT STANDARDS IN THE
06:16:58PM COMMUNITY.
06:16:58PM DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
06:17:03PM WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT, ETC.
06:17:05PM RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
06:17:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:17:11PM THANK YOU, SIR.
06:17:16PM THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
06:17:18PM YES, SIR.
06:17:19PM >> MENTESNOT.
06:17:22PM I WANT TO SAY UHURU, AND IT MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI AND
06:17:31PM MENTESNOT MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
06:17:34PM 623 YEARS WE HAVE BEEN AWAY, SEPARATED FROM OUR FREEDOM.
06:17:37PM I TOLD MY SON TO PICK UP A PIZZA FOR THE FAMILY.
06:17:43PM HE CAME BACK AROUND THE CORNER, I SAID HOW DO YOU KNOW WE
06:17:46PM ARE GOING TO LIKE THAT ONE?
06:17:47PM HE SAID, BECAUSE OF THE PRICE.
06:17:51PM YEAH.
06:17:52PM MY SON HAD THAT KIND OF SENSE.
06:17:55PM A PRE-TEEN HAD THAT KIND OF SENSE.
06:18:00PM AND THIS BUDGET MAKES NO SENSE.
06:18:03PM THIS CITY COUNCIL AND THIS MAYOR IS LIKE PROFESSIONAL
06:18:09PM WRESTLING.
06:18:10PM IT IS ALL STAGED.
06:18:11PM THREE, FOUR WEEKS AGO YOU WERE SO HOT.
06:18:14PM SO THIS.
06:18:15PM SO DISGUST.
06:18:16PM WE AIN'T GOING TO DO THIS.
06:18:17PM WE AIN'T GOING TO DO THAT.
06:18:19PM AND THEY MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS.
06:18:20PM NOW EVERYBODY IS PEACEFUL AND DOCILE, AND THEY ARE HAPPY THEY
06:18:24PM DO THIS, AND THEY ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH JACKSON
06:18:27PM HOUSE ON 34th STREET.
06:18:29PM SHOWING THE NEW FIRE TRAINING STATION.
06:18:31PM PUT THE BRAKES ON THE BUDGET.
06:18:34PM DON'T TALK OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY AND HOMELESSNESS AND ALL
06:18:38PM THIS OTHER GARBAGE Y'ALL BE TALKING ABOUT.
06:18:41PM BUT THE MAIN THING YOU WANT TO DO -- YOU CAN TELL THERE IS
06:18:43PM NO BLACK LEADERSHIP IN THIS CITY.
06:18:45PM WE ARE 26% OF THIS POPULATION.
06:18:47PM WE WANT 26% OF THIS BUDGET.
06:18:49PM YEAH.
06:18:50PM YOU SEE US ALL IN HERE TONIGHT.
06:18:56PM WE WANT 26% OF THIS BUDGET AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE BEGGING
06:18:59PM FOR IT.
06:19:00PM WE TALK OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY.
06:19:01PM THE POLICE DON'T NEED NOTHING.
06:19:05PM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DON'T NEED NOTHING.
06:19:06PM JACKSON HOUSE DON'T NEED NOTHING.
06:19:08PM 34th STREET PARK DON'T NEED NOTHING.
06:19:11PM $60 MILLION FOR A PARK AND RECREATION FOR ELDERLY BLACK
06:19:15PM WOMEN.
06:19:15PM WHILE ALL THE ELDERLY BLACK MEN ARE SITTING AT McDONALD'S,
06:19:20PM HANGING OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE NO PLACE TO GO, EVEN WHEN WE ARE
06:19:23PM ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, THEY RUN US FROM AROUND THERE.
06:19:26PM TAKE THE $60 MILLION AND PUT IT IN SOME HOUSING, REAL
06:19:30PM HOUSING.
06:19:30PM FOR REAL PEOPLE.
06:19:34PM TAKE ALL THIS FLUFF Y'ALL ARE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE POLICE
06:19:38PM DEPARTMENT.
06:19:38PM THEY NEED THIS.
06:19:38PM THEY NEED 30 MORE OFFICERS.
06:19:40PM THE FIRE FIGHTERS NEED 30 MORE OFFICERS.
06:19:42PM MOST OF THEM MFERS SITTING AROUND DOING NOTHING.
06:19:48PM ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING MOST OF THE TIME HARASSING
06:19:53PM AFRICAN PEOPLE.
06:19:54PM DOING ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY NOTHING.
06:19:56PM WHAT WE NEED IS, WE NEED 26% OF THIS BUDGET.
06:20:02PM WE NEED REPARATIONS.
06:20:04PM THERE IS NO WAY CORY BUSH IS ALL THE WAY IN WASHINGTON D.C.
06:20:08PM TALKING ABOUT REPARATIONS, AND WE ARE RIGHT HERE IN TAMPA.
06:20:11PM AND WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT REPARATIONS.
06:20:13PM WE NEED IT.
06:20:14PM WE DON'T WANT IT.
06:20:15PM WE NEED IT.
06:20:16PM IT IS OURS.
06:20:17PM IT IS RIGHTFULLY DESERVING TO OUR PEOPLE AND WHAT WE HAVE
06:20:21PM EXPERIENCED FOR 623 YEARS AND 400 SOME YEARS ON THIS SOIL
06:20:26PM RIGHT HERE.
06:20:26PM PUT THE BRAKES ON THE BUDGET.
06:20:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:20:30PM YES, MA'AM.
06:20:30PM >> GOOD EVENING, AND THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME I
06:20:37PM HAVE DONE THIS.
06:20:37PM AND I AM GOING TO TRY TO BE BRIEF, AND MAKE IT MORE ABOUT A
06:20:41PM STORY AND EVERYTHING IS A HUMAN COST.
06:20:42PM I LIVED IN TAMPA SINCE 2015.
06:20:44PM I AM A SINGLE MOTHER OF THREE.
06:20:46PM I CAME HERE TO BE A FIRST RESPONDER SO I WILL LEAVE SOME
06:20:50PM NUGGETS FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT.
06:20:51PM I AM NOT SAYING GO IN ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER, BUT A LOT
06:20:54PM OF THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
06:20:55PM I LIVE IN INCOME RESTRICTED HOUSING BECAUSE AS A FIRE MEDIC,
06:20:59PM WE DON'T MAKE THE MONEY YOU THINK WE MAKE.
06:21:03PM THAT IS NUMBER ONE.
06:21:04PM YOU CAN'T RAISE A FAMILY OF THREE BECAUSE HOUSING IS HARD
06:21:07PM HERE.
06:21:07PM BUT THE OTHER REASON THAT I STAY IN TAMPA IS BECAUSE SINCE
06:21:12PM 2019, MY CHILDREN HAVE BEEN IN THE POLICE ATHLETIC LEAGUE.
06:21:16PM KEPT THEM OFF THE STREETS IN THE EVENING.
06:21:18PM RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE STILL BOXING.
06:21:20PM THEY ARE GOING TO BE BOXING UNTIL 7:00 TONIGHT.
06:21:23PM WE HAVE BEEN DOING THIS CONSISTENTLY SINCE 2019.
06:21:27PM WE NEED MORE OF THAT.
06:21:28PM THEY STARTED BRINGING THEIR FRIENDS AND TAKING THEIR FRIENDS
06:21:31PM OFF THE STREETS TO GO TO THE BOXING GYM.
06:21:34PM WE NEED MORE OFFICERS THAT BECOME PEOPLE SO THESE KIDS ARE
06:21:36PM NOW INTERESTED IN BEING POSITIVE CHANGE AS PART OF BEING
06:21:40PM PROACTIVE.
06:21:41PM MY OLDEST, LAST YEAR, MADE THE DECISION TO GO INTO THE CADET
06:21:46PM PROGRAM THAT THE TAMPA POLICE EXPLORERS OFFER.
06:21:49PM THIS IS ALL BECAUSE OF THE INTERACTIONS AND THE
06:21:53PM RELATIONSHIPS BUILT BY THE P.A.L. OFFICERS.
06:21:57PM THIS MATTERS.
06:21:58PM EVEN THOUGH IT IS DIFFICULT TO LIVE HERE.
06:21:59PM I WISH I WAS ABLE TO WORK IN THIS COUNTY AND I AM GOING TO
06:22:04PM TOUCH ON FIRE BECAUSE I SEE MY BROTHERS AND FORMER
06:22:07PM INSTRUCTORS HERE.
06:22:08PM I WENT TO AN ACCOUNT NEARBY.
06:22:10PM THEY RECEIVED A SAFER GRANT.
06:22:11PM IT PAYS WHAT I NEED TO GET PAID IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO LIVE
06:22:16PM IN THIS CITY.
06:22:17PM I LOVE THIS CITY, AND I WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON DOING EVERYTHING
06:22:20PM POSSIBLE SO THAT OUR FIRE FIGHTERS CAN GET THE GRANTS THEY
06:22:23PM NEED TO CONTINUE TO SERVE AND TAKE CARE OF YOU.
06:22:26PM AND SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN GROW FROM THE INSIDE AND OUR
06:22:31PM CHILDREN WHO ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT SO THEY CAN ALL BE
06:22:34PM MOTIVATED TO BRING THEIR FRIENDS, BECOME INVOLVED WITH THE
06:22:37PM POLICE OFFICERS, SEE THEM AS PEOPLE AND BE PROACTIVE.
06:22:40PM THIS IS WHAT MATTERS.
06:22:42PM MY DAUGHTER IS GOING INTO HER SECOND YEAR AT THE EXPLORERS.
06:22:45PM SHE JUST MADE HONOR GUARD.
06:22:47PM AND JUST THIS WEEK AS A JUNIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL, SHE TOLD ME,
06:22:51PM MOM, I AM NOT GOING TO GO TO COLLEGE.
06:22:53PM GUESS WHAT, I AM GOING TO POLICE ACADEMY BECAUSE THAT IS
06:22:56PM WHAT I WANT TO DO.
06:22:56PM I WANT THAT TO BE A DREAM FOR EVERYBODY.
06:22:59PM BECAUSE WE ARE ALL PEOPLE.
06:23:01PM I DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR YOU ARE.
06:23:03PM WE ALL BLEED RED.
06:23:05PM MY JOB IS TO FIX THAT.
06:23:06PM AND I WANT TO BE PRESENT IN MY COMMUNITY TO DO THAT.
06:23:09PM THANK YOU.
06:23:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:23:11PM YES, MA'AM.
06:23:12PM PLEASE -- NO CLAPPING.
06:23:14PM THANK YOU.
06:23:15PM MA'AM, WHAT WAS YOUR NAME, IF YOU CAN COME BACK UP.
06:23:17PM YOUR NAME?
06:23:19PM >> ESTER VASQUEZ.
06:23:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ESTER VASQUEZ.
06:23:24PM WE JUST NEED IT FOR THE RECORD.
06:23:26PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
06:23:27PM NEXT SPEAKER.
06:23:28PM YES, MA'AM.
06:23:28PM >> GOOD EVENING, CARROLL ROBERSON.
06:23:31PM JUST LIKE MISS ESTER HERE, MY DAUGHTER IS ALSO A MEMBER OF
06:23:35PM TAMPA P.A.L. BOXING.
06:23:38PM I'M HERE AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY AND ADVOCATE FOR
06:23:43PM TAMPA P.A.L.
06:23:44PM IT HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION THE BUDGET WAS CUT THE $2
06:23:48PM MILLION THEY ASKED FOR.
06:23:49PM REALLY TROUBLESOME AND THEY WANTED TO EXTEND THIS PROGRAM
06:23:54PM JUST LIKE MISS ESTER SAID FOR HUNDREDS OF OTHER KIDS WHO
06:23:57PM NEED THIS PROGRAM WHO ARE MAYBE IN A BAD SITUATION WHO NEED
06:24:01PM TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF AFTERSCHOOL ENVIRONMENT, HAVE A
06:24:05PM POSITIVE PERSON SUCH AS THE POLICE OFFICERS WHO ARE PART OF
06:24:09PM THIS TO MENTOR THEM.
06:24:10PM NOT ONLY DOES IT KEEP THEM SAFE AND OFF THE STREET, KEEPS
06:24:14PM THEM OFF OF TROUBLE, KEEPS THEM OUT OF HARM'S WAY AND
06:24:18PM PROVIDES A FUTURE FOR THEM.
06:24:19PM PROVIDES A FUTURE BECAUSE POSITIVE PEOPLE IN THEIR LIFE
06:24:22PM DOING POSITIVE THINGS FOR THEM.
06:24:23PM NOT ONLY AM I AN ACTIVE PARENT WITH P.A.L.
06:24:28PM I AM A SINGLE MOM TOO, AND I GET THE HOUSING ISSUE HERE.
06:24:31PM I TOTALLY GET THIS IS ALSO GOING TO IMPACT MY MORTGAGE
06:24:35PM PAYMENT.
06:24:36PM BECAUSE MY TAXES GOING TO GO UP.
06:24:38PM BUT I'M HERE TO BEG YOU GUYS TO PUT -- MY TAXES GOING TO GO
06:24:43PM UP SO MY ESCROW --
06:24:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE REJECTED THE MILLAGE INCREASE.
06:24:49PM IT WILL STAY THE SAME AS LAST YEAR.
06:24:51PM >> WELL, NEVER MIND.
06:24:52PM I'M HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR P.A.L. TO GET THAT $2 MILLION
06:24:57PM BUDGET.
06:24:57PM AND IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
06:24:59PM AND PROVIDES THE STRUCTURE, GUIDANCE AND DISCIPLINE AND SETS
06:25:03PM THESE KIDS UP FOR SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE.
06:25:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:25:06PM >> THANK YOU.
06:25:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS BIRDSONG.
06:25:13PM >> ANGELA BIRDSONG, PRESIDENT OF THE DEMOCRATIC BLACK CAUCUS
06:25:20PM OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
06:25:21PM I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE HEART AND THE SOUL OF OUR
06:25:24PM DEMOCRATIC PARTY, WHICH IS OUR BLACK VOTERS WHICH ARE OVER
06:25:28PM 100,000 IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
06:25:29PM AND IT IS STILL THE MOST CONSISTENT VOTING BLOCK WHEN IT
06:25:32PM COMES TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
06:25:38PM ONE THING WE KNOW THAT OUR VOTERS CARE ABOUT IS HOUSING.
06:25:42PM THEY WANT SAFE.
06:25:43PM THEY WANT AFFORDABLE, THEY WANT CONSISTENT HOUSING.
06:25:46PM WE KNOW EVEN IF YOU PUT $100 MILLION TOWARD HOUSING RIGHT
06:25:49PM NOW, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A DROP IN THE BUCKET.
06:25:52PM BUT IF YOU CAN AT LEAST SHOW THE VOTERS THAT YOU ARE TRYING
06:25:55PM AND YOU ARE GOING TO SQUEEZE EVERY DROP, EVERY DOLLAR THAT
06:25:59PM YOU CAN TOWARD HOUSING, I THINK THEY ARE GOING TO REMEMBER
06:26:03PM YOU ON OUR NEXT ELECTION DAY.
06:26:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TODAY IS NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION
06:26:09PM DAY.
06:26:10PM >> IT IS VOTER REGISTRATION DAY.
06:26:12PM THAT'S CORRECT.
06:26:12PM AND LET US NOT FORGET THAT ALL OF OUR VOTE-BY-MAIL BALLOTS
06:26:19PM HAVE BEEN CANCELLED.
06:26:19PM LET ALL YOUR FRIENDS AND RELATIVES KNOW THAT THEIR
06:26:23PM VOTE-BY-MAIL WILL NOT BE COMING.
06:26:25PM SO WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT OUR VOTERS, THEIR NUMBER
06:26:29PM ONE ISSUE IS HOUSING.
06:26:30PM ANYTHING YOU CAN DO FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF
06:26:36PM TAMPA WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
06:26:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
06:26:38PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:26:39PM ALL RIGHT, YES, SIR.
06:26:40PM ALL RIGHTY.
06:26:43PM HOW ARE YOU DOING.
06:26:44PM LOUIS SALAZAR.
06:26:47PM PRESIDENT OF THE LGBTQ CAUCUS.
06:26:52PM A MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY AND AS A MINORITY TO FUND THE $7
06:26:58PM MILLION FOR HOUSING.
06:26:59PM YOU CAME TO US DURING ELECTION CYCLE AND YOU SAID THERE IS A
06:27:02PM HOUSING CRISIS.
06:27:03PM YOU ALL ADMITTED IT.
06:27:05PM PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
06:27:08PM I KNOW THIS MIGHT BE LIKE A WISH LIST FOR SOMEONE OR PEOPLE.
06:27:12PM NOT A WISH LIST FOR US.
06:27:14PM WE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE NO HOMES AND GETTING KICKED OUT
06:27:17PM WHEN WE GET EVICTED.
06:27:18PM THERE IS A PROGRAM ALREADY IN PLACE THAT IS HELPING PEOPLE,
06:27:21PM YOU KNOW.
06:27:22PM IT HAS ITS FLAWS BUT IT CAN BE WORKED ON.
06:27:25PM IT CAN'T BE WORKED ON IF THERE IS NO MONEY THERE TO FUND IT
06:27:29PM TO MAKE IT WORK.
06:27:30PM PLEASE, I ASK YOU TO FUND THIS, 100%, THE $7 MILLION.
06:27:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ACTUALLY $10 MILLION.
06:27:37PM >> $10 MILLION.
06:27:38PM WHATEVER IT TAKES.
06:27:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:27:42PM >> I WILL TAKE $10 MILLION.
06:27:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MORE THAN THAT, BUT --
06:27:46PM >> YOU KNOW THIS IS REAL -- THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN
06:27:48PM ON PEOPLE'S WISH LIST FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
06:27:50PM WE KEEP GETTING TOLD SOMETHING WILL BE DONE ABOUT HOUSING
06:27:53PM AND HERE WE ARE AGAIN WITH THE SAME QUESTIONS, WITH THE SAME
06:27:56PM BATTLE.
06:27:56PM PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
06:27:59PM WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT SOMETHING WILL BE SOMETHING ABOUT IT
06:28:02PM AND NOT DONE.
06:28:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATION ISSUE NOT A CITY
06:28:06PM COUNCIL'S ISSUE.
06:28:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. RANSOM.
06:28:09PM >> I AM JAMES RANSOM AND HERE REPRESENTING THE TAMPA
06:28:13PM ORGANIZATION OF BLACK AFFAIRS.
06:28:17PM YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN MONITORING THINGS IN THE BACKGROUND.
06:28:19PM I CHAIR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE FOR TOBA.
06:28:22PM AND THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN ON WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.
06:28:25PM AND, CLEARLY, AS YOU REPRESENT WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT, YOU ARE
06:28:28PM TRYING TO FIND AT THAT WAY TO DO THAT AND MARRY WHAT THE
06:28:31PM MAYOR IS TRYING TO GET DONE AS WELL.
06:28:33PM AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU WILL MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT
06:28:36PM THESE THINGS.
06:28:36PM HOUSING IS CLEARLY ONE OF THE TOP THINGS ON THE LIST, AND WE
06:28:39PM HOPE THAT YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THOSE THINGS LIKE HOUSING THAT
06:28:42PM ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE PUBLIC, TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND WHAT
06:28:46PM I WANTED TO JUST LEAVE YOU WITH THOUGH, WHATEVER DECISION
06:28:49PM YOU MAKE, WE ASKED THE MAYOR FOR MANY YEARS, NOT TO SEND
06:28:54PM ANYTHING TO COUNCIL THAT DOESN'T ALREADY HAVE GOALS IN
06:28:59PM WHATEVER CONTRACTS COME, WHATEVER DEALS COME TO CITY COUNCIL
06:29:02PM FOR APPROVAL FOR FUNDING THAT IT INCORPORATES IN THERE A
06:29:07PM COMMITMENT FOR DIVERSITY AND EQUITY IN HOW MONEY IS BEING
06:29:11PM SPENT BY RACE AND GENDER.
06:29:14PM AND THAT COMMITMENT SHOULD COME WITH A PLAN TO REACH THE
06:29:17PM GOAL.
06:29:17PM WE ARE GOING TO ASK CITY COUNCIL TO NOT APPROVE EVERYTHING
06:29:21PM SENT BY THE ADMINISTRATION THAT DOESN'T HAVE THAT IN THERE.
06:29:23PM THAT WAY IT GOES BACK TO -- TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO HAVE
06:29:27PM THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT IS BEING DONE.
06:29:29PM WE HAVE TO SAY ON TIMES WE HAD ISSUES TO ADDRESS WITH THE
06:29:34PM MAY I DON'T REMEMBER OF HOW MONEY WAS BEING SPENT FOR
06:29:37PM EXAMPLE, HANNA AVENUE.
06:29:39PM HOWEVER WE GOT THERE, THAT WAS FIXED APPROPRIATELY.
06:29:41PM FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED, THAT WAS DONE APPROPRIATELY.
06:29:45PM ANY MONEY BEING SPENT HAS TO CONTEMPLATE THE POPULATION
06:29:49PM DEMOGRAPHICS.
06:29:50PM HISPANIC AND BLACK COMMUNITY, 29% OF THE POPULATION.
06:29:55PM YOU HAVE TO THINK OF THAT.
06:29:56PM HAVE US IN MIND ALL THE TIME WITH EVERY DECISION YOU MAKE.
06:29:59PM AND NOT EXCLUDE EVERYONE ELSE BY RACE AND GENDER EITHER.
06:30:03PM A VERY GOOD COMMUNITY.
06:30:05PM WE HAVE A LOT OF DIVERSITY HERE, BUT YOUR DECISIONS FOR ALL
06:30:09PM OF THE CITIZENS AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS WITH ALL OF
06:30:12PM THE CITIZENS.
06:30:12PM FOR THAT I SAY BEST WISHES TO YOU.
06:30:14PM WE ARE LOOKING AT EACH ONE OF YOU MAKING DECISIONS FOR THE
06:30:18PM PEOPLE WHO COME BEFORE YOU TO SPEAK WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.
06:30:21PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:30:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:30:23PM YES, SIR, MR. GRAY.
06:30:24PM >> GOOD EVENING, STANLEY GRAY.
06:30:26PM AND I AM REPRESENTING BOTH THE HOUSEHOLD AT 3020 WEST
06:30:31PM HACKERVIEW AVENUE AND THE URBAN LEAGUE OF HILLSBOROUGH
06:30:36PM COUNTY.
06:30:36PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I WOULD LIKE TO BE ANSWERED AT
06:30:38PM A LATER TIME.
06:30:40PM ONE IS WHEN YOU GAVE THE COST OF ADDITIONAL PUBLIC SAFETY.
06:30:43PM I AM INCLUDING THAT INCLUDED THE NORTH CAROLINA AND
06:30:47PM BENEFITS; HOWEVER, BASED ON MY PAST EXPERIENCE OF
06:30:49PM NEGOTIATING LABOR CONTRACTS, I AM NOT COMFORTABLE THAT
06:30:53PM INCLUDED THE COST FOR RETIREMENT.
06:30:54PM SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU LATER ON TO SHARE THAT ACTUARIAL
06:30:59PM COST FOR RETIREMENT.
06:31:00PM THE SECOND THING IS, MY URBAN LEAGUE HAT.
06:31:05PM ONE OF MY GOALS TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR SENIOR CITIZENS ON
06:31:08PM FIXED INCOME.
06:31:09PM VERY IMPORTANT.
06:31:10PM THE REASON WHY, THE LARGEST HOMELESS POPULATION IN THIS CITY
06:31:14PM COMES FROM 62 YEARS OLD AND ABOVE.
06:31:18PM IN THE LAST MONTH, MY UTILITY BILL TRIPLED -- EXCUSE ME, THE
06:31:24PM LAST FIVE YEARS, MY INSURANCE HAS TRIPLED.
06:31:26PM AGAIN, THE MISSION OF THE URBAN LEAGUE IS TO TRY TO PROVIDE
06:31:31PM HOUSING FOR SENIOR CITIZENS ON FIXED INCOME.
06:31:33PM I AM ASKING YOU TO LOOK AT PROVIDERS OF THIS OTHER THAN THE
06:31:36PM LARGE DEVELOPERS.
06:31:37PM THE LARGER DEVELOPMENTS HAVE MORE EXTREME COSTS THAN AN
06:31:41PM ORGANIZATION SUCH AS THE URBAN LEAGUE.
06:31:43PM I WOULD ASK THAT YOU SERIOUSLY CONSIDER HOUSES AND
06:31:46PM PROPERTIES THAT YOU HAVE TO GRANT THEM TO ORGANIZATIONS SUCH
06:31:49PM AS THE URBAN LEAGUE OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OR LEASE THEM, OR
06:31:53PM LEASE THEM WITH A PURCHASE OPTION.
06:31:54PM IT DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS.
06:31:56PM DECREASES YOUR BUDGET FOR MAINTENANCE AND ALSO INCREASES
06:31:59PM YOUR BUDGET BECAUSE YOU WILL HAVE SOMETHING COMING IN ON A
06:32:02PM REGULAR BASIS.
06:32:03PM THE LAST THING I WILL ASK YOU TO DO IS NOT TO CONSIDER
06:32:07PM GIVING THE NONUNION EMPLOYEES A 2% OR 3% INCREASE STRAIGHT
06:32:13PM ACROSS THE BOARD.
06:32:14PM I WILL ASK THAT YOU ADOPT A CONTROLLED POINT MERIT PROCESS.
06:32:17PM I HAVE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH THIS IN CORPORATE AMERICA FOR
06:32:21PM YEARS.
06:32:21PM AND I AM TELLING YOU IF YOU CHANGE THAT 3% STRAIGHT ACROSS
06:32:25PM THE BOARD TO A 3% MERIT YIELD, IF YOU TELL THE TRUTH, YOU
06:32:29PM WILL NEVER SPEND THE 3% AND YOU WILL REWARD THE INDIVIDUALS
06:32:32PM THAT ARE BEING MORE PRODUCTIVE TO THE ORGANIZATIONS AND THE
06:32:35PM CITIZENS OF THIS CITY.
06:32:35PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
06:32:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:32:38PM WE NEED IT QUIET IN THE AUDIENCE.
06:32:41PM YES, MA'AM.
06:32:42PM >> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCILMEMBERS.
06:32:46PM LAURA CANTWELL.
06:32:47PM I'M HERE REPRESENTING AARP FLORIDA.
06:32:51PM ON BEHALF OF THE THREE MILLION AARP IN FLORIDA, 90,000 IN
06:32:57PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND APPROXIMATELY 30,000 IN TAMPA, I
06:33:00PM URGE YOU TO PRIORITIZE AFFORDABLE BE HOUSING FUNDING IN YOUR
06:33:04PM BUDGET.
06:33:04PM WE HEAR OVER AND OVER THAT OUR MEMBERS AND OLDER FLORIDIANS
06:33:08PM WANT TO REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES AND IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AS
06:33:11PM THEY AGE, BUT PEOPLE OF ALL AGES, INCLUDING OLDER ADULTS
06:33:16PM NEED MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS.
06:33:18PM A SHORT SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING MAY LEAVE RESIDENTS
06:33:22PM WITH FEWER HOUSING OPTIONS IN TAMPA.
06:33:25PM AARP'S MOST RECENT NATIONAL HOME AND PREFERENCE STUDY MAN
06:33:31PM FOUND 60% OF ADULTS INDICATED THEY WOULD CONSIDER LIVING IN
06:33:34PM AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND 62% WOULD CONSIDER BUILDING
06:33:38PM ONE ON THEIR PROPERTY TO PROVIDE A PLACE FOR A LOVED ONE
06:33:41PM NEEDING CARE OR A FAMILY MEMBER OR A FRIEND WHO NEEDS A
06:33:45PM HOME.
06:33:45PM THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE --
06:33:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
06:33:50PM >> -- FOR MORE HOUSING OPTIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW OLDER ADULTS
06:33:54PM TO REMAIN IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
06:33:56PM AND ACCORDING THE AARP STATISTIC ANALYSIS OF DATA BY THE
06:34:02PM UNITED STATES CENSUS BUREAU, 1853 OLDER ADULTS, 55-PLUS, ARE
06:34:08PM EXPECTED TO BE EVICTED IN 2023 IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
06:34:10PM AND MORE THAN 1200 OLDER ADULTS, 55-PLUS ARE EXPECTED TO BE
06:34:16PM HOMELESS IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
06:34:16PM MANY OLDER RESIDENTS ACROSS FLORIDA ARE STRUGGLING WITH
06:34:21PM HOMELESSNESS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THEIR LIVES.
06:34:23PM TAMPA HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE COURSE AND PRIORITIZE
06:34:28PM FUNDING TO ENSURE THERE ARE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR ALL INCOME
06:34:32PM LEVELS.
06:34:32PM PROVIDING ANOTHER CHOICE FOR THE HOUSING MARKET IS A WIN-WIN
06:34:36PM FOR TAMPA AND ALLOWS THOSE WHO HAVE CHOSEN THIS CITY AS
06:34:40PM THEIR HOME TO AGE IN PLACE AND STAY CONNECTED TO THEIR
06:34:43PM FRIENDS, FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY.
06:34:45PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:34:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:34:47PM YES, SIR.
06:34:48PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
06:34:53PM NATHAN HAGAN FOR YIMBY COMPANY, YES IN MY BACK YARD.
06:34:59PM COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID SOMETHING THAT I LOVE HEARING FROM YOU
06:35:03PM ALL.
06:35:04PM PEOPLE EXPECT CITY COUNCIL -- THEY EXPECT THE CITY TO BE RUN
06:35:07PM WELL.
06:35:08PM I WILL SAY THAT HOPEFULLY IF I CAN TWICE IN THIS PUBLIC
06:35:11PM COMMENT.
06:35:11PM BUT START OFF ON A POSITIVE NOTE AND SAY I THINK YOU DID A
06:35:14PM PHENOMENAL JOB LOOK CAN AT THE BUDGET AND BEING CRITICAL OF
06:35:18PM IT.
06:35:19PM WE HAVE GOTTEN THAT MONEY BACK -- WHATEVER IT IS FOR HOUSING
06:35:22PM THAT WAS PROMISED WE ARE KIND OF CLOSE TO THAT.
06:35:24PM I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE HAPPY THOUGH BECAUSE, IN MY
06:35:27PM OPINION, YOU GUYS CUT OUR HOUSING BUDGET BY $45 MILLION.
06:35:31PM I WANT THAT $45 MILLION BACK.
06:35:33PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GET IT FROM BECAUSE YOU
06:35:37PM SAY WE DON'T HAVE A REVENUE PROBLEM AND VOTED FOR AFT.
06:35:42PM 50% OF PEOPLE IN TAMPA HAVE HOUSING BURDEN, SPEND MORE THAN
06:35:46PM WHAT THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING THINKS IS APPROPRIATE
06:35:50PM FOR SOMEONE WHO CAN AFFORD THEIR HOME.
06:35:52PM I SAID TWO WEEKS AGO A $8 BILLION PROBLEM.
06:35:55PM I AM GLAD -- I AM GLAD WE FIXED THE BUDGET.
06:36:00PM WE NEEDED TO DO THAT.
06:36:02PM WE CAN'T GO BACK AND FIX THIS, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE SAID I
06:36:05PM WANT TO KEEP THE ONE MILL BUT NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR IT
06:36:09PM UNLESS WE NEXT THE BUDGET FIRST.
06:36:10PM IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE GENERALLY GOTTEN CLOSER TO FIXING THE
06:36:14PM BUDGET AND TALK ABOUT WHERE TO PUT THAT $45 MILLION.
06:36:17PM IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN HOUSING.
06:36:19PM THE COUNTY IS ABOUT TO LOSE $10 MILLION TO HOPE IN
06:36:23PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
06:36:24PM THAT -- THAT IS A SHORTFALL THAT THE CITY -- IT IS THE ONLY
06:36:29PM PLACE TO HAVE THE LEADERSHIP TO MAKE UP FOR THAT AND YOU ALL
06:36:33PM PROVED THAT YOU DIDN'T.
06:36:35PM THERE IS A RFP FOR THE CODA FORM.
06:36:40PM I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF WANTS TO CALL IT THAT.
06:36:42PM BUT I HOPE THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY COUNCIL THINK OF THAT
06:36:45PM BECAUSE A 30-YEAR BACKLOG OF CHANGE.
06:36:48PM IF YOU DON'T CALL IT REFORM, YOU HAVE TO CALL IT A
06:36:50PM REVOLUTION.
06:36:50PM NEEDS TO BE SIGNIFICANT CHANGE THERE.
06:36:52PM I AM VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THE SIGNALING THAT COMES FROM
06:36:55PM HERE, STAFF OR WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE WILL LOOK AT YOU ALL
06:36:58PM AND SAY THEY DON'T WANT TO FUND IN IG.
06:37:01PM WE WILL GO ON A SHOESTRING BUDGET AND UNDERFUND THIS
06:37:05PM INVESTMENT OF HOW WE RUN OUR CITY.
06:37:06PM IN GENERAL, THAT APPROACH IF WE ARE GOING TO NICKEL AND DIME
06:37:10PM OURSELVES OUT OF PROVIDING PROPER SERVICES, ABLE TO DO
06:37:15PM HOUSING IN AN EFFICIENT TIME AND MONEY EFFICIENT MANNER, WE
06:37:19PM NEED TO BE ABLE TO INVEST A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT.
06:37:22PM AND INVEST A LOT OF MONEY INTO BUYING HOUSING AND PROVIDING
06:37:25PM HOUSING FOR PEOPLE.
06:37:25PM I WAS INTERESTED THE $1.5 BILLION BONDS.
06:37:29PM I AM INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT IS THE MAX WE CAN DO ON
06:37:32PM HOUSING.
06:37:33PM WHERE WE GET OUT, OUR $45 MILLION BACK IN YEAR?
06:37:37PM MY PERSONAL ISSUES I WILL SAY $7 MILLION FOR PAVING.
06:37:40PM I DON'T GET THAT.
06:37:41PM WE HAVE OTHER TRANSPORTATION OBJECTIVES.
06:37:43PM AND THEN ON A PERSONAL NOTE, NOWHERE TO PLAY SOCCER IN
06:37:48PM DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
06:37:49PM THAT WON'T BE FIXED, BUT I WOULD LOVE FOR THAT TO BE BROUGHT
06:37:53PM UP.
06:37:53PM PEOPLE THAT PLAY SOCCER DON'T COME HERE AND CYCLISTS AND
06:37:58PM PEOPLE WHO EXPECT THE CITY TO RUN WELL AND THEY DON'T COME
06:38:00PM HERE.
06:38:01PM WHEN THE CITY IS RUNNING WELL AND YOU DON'T HEAR, YOU SHOULD
06:38:05PM CONSIDER THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR MORE STUFF.
06:38:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
06:38:09PM THANK YOU.
06:38:09PM YES, MA'AM.
06:38:10PM >> HELLO, TATIANA MORALES, ONE OF THE CO-CHAPTER LEADS
06:38:17PM OF YIMBY TAMPA.
06:38:18PM I WAS IN COUNCILMAN VIERA'S DISTRICT.
06:38:20PM MY RENT WENT UP OVER 80% AND CAUSED ME TO BE PRICED OUT OF A
06:38:25PM DISTRICT THAT I LOVED AND LIVED FOR TEN YEARS.
06:38:29PM I LOOKED BACK AND THINK OF THE MEMORIES IN THAT PLACE AND
06:38:31PM THAT IS GONE FOR ME NOW.
06:38:33PM SOMETHING FOR AN ACTION OF THE COUNCIL FOR A FUTURE, LOOKING
06:38:37PM AT THE FUTURE WHERE 150 PEOPLE COME TO TAMPA EVERY DAY.
06:38:40PM THEY MOVE HERE FOR OPPORTUNITY.
06:38:41PM THEY MOVE FOR THE SUNSHINE.
06:38:43PM THEY MOVE FOR THE CULTURE.
06:38:44PM THAT CULTURE DIES WHEN PEOPLE DON'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY
06:38:48PM THEY WANT TO.
06:38:49PM THINK OF MR. CLENDENIN, ONE OF YOUR CAMPAIGN MANAGERS LEFT
06:38:52PM THE STATE BECAUSE HE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE ANYMORE.
06:38:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ASK THAT YOU ADDRESS COUNCIL AS AN
06:38:59PM ENTIRE BODY.
06:39:00PM THANK YOU.
06:39:00PM >> I ALSO WANTED TO PULL UP SOMETHING OVER 50 YEARS AGO,
06:39:04PM THERE WAS A STUDY CALLED A STUDY ON NEGRO LIFE IN TAMPA.
06:39:09PM TO LOOK AT THE STATISTICAL DATA OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN
06:39:12PM TAMPA AND URBAN RENEWAL, AND THE END OF JIM CROW.
06:39:15PM THE REPORT CONCLUDED WITH THE KEY CONCLUSION THAT TAMPA'S
06:39:19PM PRIVILEGED CITIZENS HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO PURSUE CORRECTIVE
06:39:22PM ACTIONS FOR TAMPA'S LESS PRIVILEGED GROUPS.
06:39:25PM ONE OF THE THINGS MENTIONED EVERYONE UNDER $200,000 LIVE IN
06:39:28PM A RECESSION.
06:39:29PM FEELS LIKE IT IS A RECESSION.
06:39:31PM I NEVER MADE MORE THAN $50,000 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND I
06:39:34PM KNOW MOST OF YOUR AIDES HAVEN'T AND MOST PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM
06:39:39PM HAVEN'T.
06:39:39PM ANY OF WHO IS SUFFERING AND DYING IN THE STREETS FROM WERE
06:39:42PM PEOPLE.
06:39:42PM NOT EXACTLY ALL OF YOU.
06:39:44PM YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN YOUR SEATS FOREVER BUT YOUR
06:39:47PM RESPONSIBILITY IN THE SEATS.
06:39:47PM WHEN YOU SAW THAT LITTLE CHILD THAT WON'T BE ABLE TO AFFORD
06:39:51PM A PLACE IN THE CITY BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH IN HOUSING
06:39:54PM AND WE INTO HE WAS TO PRIORITIZE HOUSING AND APPLY OR
06:39:57PM ADVERTISE THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
06:39:58PM ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH HOUSING IS LAND IS REALLY EXPENSIVE
06:40:02PM AND WE ONLY HAVE MONEY TO FUND INSIDE THE CRA.
06:40:05PM AND LAND TRUST IN EAST TAMPA AND YBOR RAZED BY THE HIGHWAY.
06:40:12PM A REPORT FROM 50 YEARS AGO SAID THAT THE PRIVILEGED CITIZENS
06:40:16PM DESERVE AND NEED TO DO BETTER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:40:19PM IF WE DO NOT MAKE THE MEANINGFUL INVESTMENTS IN TAMPA AND
06:40:23PM HOUSING.
06:40:24PM NONE OF US WILL VOTE FOR YOU.
06:40:26PM WE REMEMBER YOU GOING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY SAYING THERE IS
06:40:28PM A HOUSING CRISIS.
06:40:29PM I WILL LOOK AT ZONING.
06:40:30PM I WILL LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
06:40:31PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMES UP NEXT WEEK.
06:40:33PM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IS IMPORTANCE.
06:40:35PM AND I WILL BE MEETING WITH ONE OF YOU TOMORROW TO TALK ABOUT
06:40:38PM THAT.
06:40:38PM SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE FUTURE OF TAMPA AND WE LOOK AT
06:40:42PM HOUSING, WE NEED TO MAKE BIG CHANGES.
06:40:44PM THE MAP THAT THE CITY WAS BUILT IN WAS BUILT TO BE RACIST
06:40:48PM AND EXCLUDE PEOPLE AND WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT.
06:40:52PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL, AND I HOPE DO YOU THE RIGHT THING FOR
06:40:56PM TAMPA -- [GAVEL SOUNDING]
06:41:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.
06:41:03PM >> I AM DR. MICHELLE WILLIAMS, AND I REPRESENT PEOPLE WHO
06:41:07PM LOOK LIKE ME TONIGHT.
06:41:08PM IT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME BEFORE I SCHOOL BEFORE THIS DAIS,
06:41:12PM BEFORE EACH OF YOU.
06:41:13PM AND I REMEMBER A LOT OF YOU COMING THROUGH THE
06:41:15PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
06:41:16PM I REMEMBER A LOT OF YOU COMING AND SITTING WITH ME ON MY
06:41:19PM RADIO PROGRAMS.
06:41:20PM I REMEMBER A LOT OF YOU JUST HAVING COFFEE WITH ME ON A
06:41:23PM PERSONAL NOTE.
06:41:24PM AND BEFORE I WALKED IN THIS BUILDING THIS EVENING, I ASKED
06:41:28PM GOD TO GO AHEAD OF ME.
06:41:29PM THE REASON WHY I ASKED GOD TO GO AHEAD OF ME, BECAUSE IN THE
06:41:33PM BOOK OF MATTHEW, JESUS SPOKE OF TWO TYPE OF TREES.
06:41:37PM A GOOD TREE CANNOT BRING FORTH EVIL FRUIT.
06:41:40PM NEITHER CAN A CORRUPT TREE BRING FORTH GOOD FRUIT.
06:41:44PM EVERY TREE THAT BRINGTH NOT FOR GOOD FRUIT IS THROWN AND CUT
06:41:48PM DOWN AND CAST INTO THE FIRE.
06:41:49PM WHAT TYPE OF TREE ARE YOU GOING TO BE TONIGHT?
06:41:56PM WHAT TYPE OF TREE ARE YOU GOING TO REPRESENT FOR YOUR
06:42:00PM CONSTITUENTS WHO VOTED FOR YOU?
06:42:02PM WHAT TYPE OF TREE ARE WE GOING TO BEAR FOR THIS MOTHER WHO
06:42:06PM CAME FORTH WHERE SHE IS HAVING A PROBLEM.
06:42:08PM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WE ALL NEED TO BE ON A RENT-TOO-DAMN-HIGH
06:42:14PM CAMPAIGN.
06:42:14PM THE RENT IS TOO HIGH.
06:42:16PM YOU HAVE LANDLORDS BECAUSE OF THIS ORCHESTRATED BODY FROM
06:42:19PM THE GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHO HAS TAKEN THE CAP
06:42:23PM OFF, WHO HAS TOLD LANDLORDS THAT THEY CAN BE BIASED UP TO
06:42:27PM WHOM THEY CAN RENT TO NOW.
06:42:28PM IT MAKES IT VERY, VERY DIFFICULT FOR MY 29-YEAR-OLD SON WHO
06:42:35PM IS MARRIED TO HIS 25-YEAR-OLD WIFE WITH THEIR FOUR CHILDREN
06:42:40PM TO GO AND TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO LIVE IN A THREE-BEDROOM,
06:42:46PM TWO-BATH HOME COMFORTABLY.
06:42:48PM BUT WE CAN NOT SEE THIS.
06:42:49PM YOU KNOW WE CAN'T SEE THIS COUNCILMEN AND COUNCILWOMEN, YOU
06:42:55PM WHY WE CAN'T SEE THIS, THE FRUIT ROLLING DOWN THE BOTTOM OF
06:42:59PM THE TREE IS ROLLING AWAY FROM THE FREE.
06:43:01PM WE DON'T HAVE TREES ROOTED IN HAD THE PLAN OF GOD ANYMORE.
06:43:06PM YOU HAVE TAKEN HIM OUT OF EVERYTHING.
06:43:08PM YOU HAVE TAKEN GOD OUT OF EVERYTHING AND YOU EXPECT GOD TO
06:43:11PM BLESS THIS BUDGET AND THESE CUTS.
06:43:12PM I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU AT SOME POINTS DURING THESE MEETINGS.
06:43:16PM MY HEART GRIEVES FOR YOU SOMETIMES DURING THESE.
06:43:19PM BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES THIS THE DECISIONS CAN BE TOUGH.
06:43:22PM BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THE SAME PROMISES THAT YOU MADE TO
06:43:27PM US GOING IN, WE ARE GOING TO SEE YOU GOING OUT.
06:43:31PM I PROMISE YOU ON THAT ONE.
06:43:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:43:35PM YES, MA'AM.
06:43:37PM MISS CLAY.
06:43:42PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
06:43:43PM MY NAME IS KAREN CLAY, AND CLOSE TO 12% OF THE POPULATION OF
06:43:48PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IDENTIFIES AS HAVING A DISABILITY
06:43:51PM MANISCALCO ORDINANCE WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, MA'AM, I AM SORRY.
06:43:53PM YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
06:43:54PM >> YOU WANT ME TO START OVER?
06:43:56PM OKAY.
06:43:56PM MY NAME IS KAREN CLAY.
06:43:58PM AND CLOSE TO 12% OF THE POPULATION OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
06:44:02PM IDENTIFIES AS HAVING A DISABILITY.
06:44:03PM I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING THE DEMOCRATIC DISABILITY CAUCUS
06:44:08PM OF HEALTH CARE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, BECAUSE WE SUPPORT NOT
06:44:11PM ONLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT WE ALSO SUPPORT ACCESSIBLE
06:44:15PM HOUSING.
06:44:15PM THIS IS FOR THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY AND ALSO FOR SENIORS TO
06:44:20PM BE ABLE TO AGE IN PLACE AS WE HEARD A LITTLE EARLIER.
06:44:23PM ACCESSIBILITY SHOULD NOT BE AN AFTERTHOUGHT, BUT BE A
06:44:28PM REQUIREMENT FOR ALL NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION.
06:44:32PM AND I AM ALSO HOPING THAT ACCESSIBLE PLAY EQUIPMENT WON'T BE
06:44:36PM IMPACTED NEGATIVELY BY THIS BUDGET.
06:44:38PM THANK YOU.
06:44:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:44:41PM ALL RIGHT, NEXT SPEAKER.
06:44:43PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:44:45PM >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
06:44:49PM MY NAME IS NADIA MOSLEY.
06:44:51PM I AM A MEMBER OF AN ORGANIZATION CALLED FLORIDA RISING.
06:44:54PM MY PURPOSE OF SPEAKING TO YOU ALL.
06:45:00PM I AM A RECIPIENT OF PUBLIC HOUSING.
06:45:03PM I AM ON A PROGRAM CALLED AT HEART PROGRAM.
06:45:07PM ACTS HAS HELPED ME TREMENDOUSLY THAT THEY PROVIDED ME WITH
06:45:12PM MORE THAN JUST HOUSING.
06:45:14PM THEY HAVE COUNSELING.
06:45:15PM I HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, WHICH THEY HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE
06:45:21PM CALLED CHRONICALLY HOMELESS AS A RESULT OF MENTAL HEALTH
06:45:25PM AND/OR DRUG ABUSE ISSUES.
06:45:27PM I AM COMING TO YOU ALL TODAY AS THE PEOPLE.
06:45:31PM YOU GUYS SAY, WE, THE PEOPLE.
06:45:33PM DOWN THE STREET FROM CITY COUNCIL, I WATCH PEOPLE SLEEP IN
06:45:39PM THE CONCRETE.
06:45:40PM I WAS THERE.
06:45:41PM I WATCH PEOPLE IF WE GO FOR SIMPLE THINGS LIKE FOOD AND
06:45:49PM WATER.
06:45:49PM AND I JUST THINK THAT APPROPRIATE AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING
06:45:52PM WOULD HELP THESE PEOPLE TO BETTER THEMSELVES.
06:45:56PM A LOT OF PEOPLE, THAT IS ALL THEY NEED.
06:45:58PM AND I AM A FIRM BELIEVER IN COMPASSION AND UNDERSTANDING
06:46:07PM GOES A LONG WAY.
06:46:08PM I KNOW YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO DO IN A DAY'S TIME, BUT IF YOU
06:46:12PM GUYS JUST TAKE THE TIME OUT TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE, WE NEED
06:46:16PM YOU MORE NOW THAN ANYTHING EVER.
06:46:19PM AND I AM JUST PLEADING TO YOU ALL TO PLEASE FIND EVERY PENNY
06:46:24PM THAT YOU CAN TO PUT INTO HOUSING.
06:46:27PM BECAUSE THESE -- THESE PEOPLE, THEY DON'T HAVE A VOICE.
06:46:31PM AND I HOPE TO BE THE VOICE FOR THOSE THAT CAN'T SPEAK.
06:46:35PM SO PLEASE, YOU GUYS, FIND EVERYTHING YOU CAN FOR HOUSING.
06:46:40PM THAT'S ALL I CAN DO IS ASK.
06:46:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:46:42PM [APPLAUSE]
06:46:49PM YES, SIR.
06:46:49PM NEXT SPEAKER.
06:46:50PM >> THAT WAS EMOTIONAL.
06:46:58PM MY NAME IS DAVID SINCLAIR.
06:47:00PM I AM WITH LULAC, THE LEAGUE OF LATIN-AMERICAN CITIZENS AND
06:47:06PM PRESIDENT OF 7259.
06:47:09PM THOSE OF US MO ARE HERE ARE HERE WITH A HEAVY HEART.
06:47:15PM I AM A SENIOR.
06:47:17PM I AM ON SOCIAL SECURITY.
06:47:19PM THOSE OF US WHO ARE HERE, YOU CAN SEE OUR FACES.
06:47:22PM WHILE I MAY BE LILY WHITE, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS HERE, WE
06:47:29PM HAVE THE SAME BURDEN.
06:47:31PM HOUSING.
06:47:33PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS BROUGHT US HERE
06:47:37PM TOGETHER.
06:47:37PM THE YOUNG LADY THAT SPOKE BEFORE SPOKE ABOUT WE, THE PEOPLE.
06:47:42PM WE NEED THAT $10 MILLION FUND TO PUT THE CITY ON THE MAP.
06:47:53PM YOU ARE OUR VOICE.
06:47:58PM WE ARE YOUR HEART.
06:48:00PM WE ARE YOUR VEINS.
06:48:02PM A RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM WILL SPEAK TO OUR NEEDS.
06:48:11PM THOSE WHO ARE COME AND SPOKE HERE ARE SPEAKING FROM THEIR
06:48:15PM HEARTS.
06:48:15PM LISTEN TO US BECAUSE WE ARE PART OF YOU.
06:48:20PM AS A MEMBER OF LULAC, THE LEAGUE OF UNITED LATIN-AMERICAN
06:48:28PM CITIZENS, WE SPEAK TO YOU.
06:48:29PM HERE WE ARE TOGETHER.
06:48:30PM SUPPORT THE HOUSING FUND BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE A REALITY.
06:48:37PM THANK YOU.
06:48:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
06:48:46PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:48:47PM >> GOOD EVENING, I WILL HAVE TO SAY I GOT HERE LATE AND
06:48:52PM CHURCH AMEN MOMENT.
06:48:53PM LIKE THE CHURCH SAY AMEN TO EVERYTHING BEING SAID.
06:48:56PM MY NAME IS ALISON MOORE AND I AM A SENIOR WHICH MEANS I AM
06:49:00PM ON A FIXED INCOME.
06:49:01PM I LIVE IN AN APARTMENT BY CHOICE.
06:49:03PM AND I UNFORTUNATELY THE TIMES ARE DIFFERENT.
06:49:06PM EVERYTHING IS NOT AFFORDABLE.
06:49:08PM I NEED YOU TO FULLY FUND THOSE HOUSINGS, BECAUSE -- EXCUSE
06:49:15PM ME.
06:49:16PM FOR THE HOUSING FOR RENT.
06:49:18PM CONSTANTLY GOING UP.
06:49:20PM AND IT I DO NOT WANT TO IT BE IN THE SITUATION THAT I HAVE
06:49:24PM TO ASK FOR RENT OR TRY TO GET.
06:49:26PM YOU KNOW YOUR FRIENDS ARE YOUR FRIENDS AS LONG AS YOU DON'T
06:49:29PM ASK FOR ANYTHING.
06:49:31PM EVEN IF YOU WERE HOMELESS, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
06:49:34PM I LOVE YOU BEFORE AND THAT'S IT.
06:49:37PM I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT SITUATION WHICH I WAS AT ONE
06:49:40PM POINT.
06:49:40PM EVERYTHING IS NOT AFFORDABLE.
06:49:42PM GAS USED TO BE $15 FOR A HALF A TANK, NOW $25.
06:49:47PM I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO PLEASE, PLEASE CONSIDER -- YOU HAVE
06:49:51PM A LOT OF PEOPLE AS SAID BEFORE, HOMELESS AND ON THE STREETS.
06:49:56PM ON A FIXED INCOME.
06:49:58PM HARD TO MAKE IT HAPPEN WITH RENT GOING UP.
06:50:02PM WE CAN'T PLAN IF OUR CHECKS ARE ALL GOING TO BE THE SAME.
06:50:05PM IF YOU HAVE -- THE LANDLORDS HAVE FREE REIN TO DO WHAT THEY
06:50:11PM WANT, YOU WILL HAVE A LOT OF SENIORS ON THE STREET NOT BEING
06:50:14PM ABLE TO AFFORD ANYTHING NOT TO MENTION THE REGULAR PEOPLE AS
06:50:17PM THE YOUNG LADY SPOKE HERSELF.
06:50:19PM REALLY SOMETHING.
06:50:19PM I LIVED HERE ALL OF MY LIFE AND THE FIRST TIME I HAVE SEEN
06:50:23PM ALL OF THIS HAPPEN.
06:50:24PM PLEASE CONSIDER US, THE $7 MILLION.
06:50:27PM PLEASE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET SO WE CAN HELP HOUSING AND USE
06:50:31PM SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE STANDING.
06:50:32PM IT WILL BE GREAT TO HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN TO BE ABLE TO STAY.
06:50:35PM REMODEL THEM.
06:50:37PM REMODEL RESTAURANTS FOR OLD BUILDINGS.
06:50:42PM AND WE CAN DO FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE.
06:50:44PM NERVE OUR CHURCHES AND COME IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BUT NOBODY
06:50:48PM THINK OF US.
06:50:49PM WE ONLY THINK OF THE BUSINESS PEOPLE.
06:50:50PM YBOR CITY HAS BEEN REMODELLED.
06:50:53PM PART OF WEST TAMPA.
06:50:54PM A LOT OF THE BUILDING YOU CAN MAKE SPACE.
06:50:59PM NOBODY SHOULD BE ON THE SECRETE IN THE CEMETERY OR ALL OF
06:51:02PM DOWNTOWN.
06:51:02PM THEY ARE NOT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND PEOPLE SLEEPING IN
06:51:06PM CARS AND MIGHT BE ME HAVING A HARD TIME.
06:51:08PM AS I SAID YOUR FRIENDS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS WHEN YOU ASK FOR
06:51:12PM MONEY AND TRYING TO GET HELP.
06:51:13PM BUT PLEASE FUND -- PLEASE THINK OF FUNDING THE $7 MILLION IN
06:51:18PM YOUR BUDGET.
06:51:19PM $10 MILLION.
06:51:21PM $10 MILLION IN YOUR BUDGET.
06:51:22PM SORRY, $10 MILLION IN YOUR BUDGET.
06:51:24PM IT REALLY WILL HELP A LOT OF US.
06:51:27PM THANK YOU.
06:51:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:51:28PM YES, MA'AM.
06:51:29PM HELLO, HOW ARE YOU.
06:51:31PM >> GOOD, HOW ARE YOU?
06:51:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD.
06:51:34PM >> I AM VANESSA McCLEARY, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE WORTH
06:51:40PM INITIATIVE, ALSO THE CDC OF TAMPA, AND THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA
06:51:44PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS TRULY A CRISIS.
06:51:47PM AND THERE HAS BEEN A STORM THAT HIT TAMPA AND ITS NAME IS
06:51:54PM "INFLATION."
06:51:55PM HIT WITH HIGHER TAXES, INSURANCE, EVERYTHING COMING AT THE
06:52:00PM SAME TIME.
06:52:00PM SO WHEN WE LOOK AT WHETHER YOU SHOULD TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE
06:52:03PM RESERVE, I DO THINK THAT HOUSING IS A CRITICAL NEED, JUST
06:52:08PM LIKE ANY STORM THAT COMES THROUGH AND YOU NEED TO TAP INTO
06:52:13PM IT.
06:52:13PM WE NOT ONLY NEED THAT $10 MILLION.
06:52:15PM AND YOU ARE CORRECT, NOT A ONE-TIME THINKING BUT IT NEEDS TO
06:52:18PM BE A ONE-TIME THING.
06:52:19PM IT NEEDS TO BE THIS YEAR AND I IMPLORE EVERYONE TO FIND A
06:52:23PM WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR FOR $10
06:52:27PM MILLION.
06:52:27PM BECAUSE AT $5 MILLION, YOU ARE HELP ABOUT 3,000 PEOPLE.
06:52:31PM BUT THERE ARE ABOUT 40,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO
06:52:34PM PAY.
06:52:34PM WHEN WE AS THE CDC ARE HELPING FAMILIES TO GET JOBS AND
06:52:39PM CAREERS AT $20 AN HOUR BUT $20 AN HOUR IS NOT ENOUGH TO LIVE
06:52:42PM IN TAMPA, IT'S A PROBLEM.
06:52:45PM WE HAVE AN AMAZING CITY.
06:52:47PM I LOVE TAMPA.
06:52:47PM I LOVE HOW IT IS GROWING.
06:52:50PM BUT AT THE SAME TIME THAT IT IS GROWING, IT IS ALSO DYING.
06:52:54PM THE RESTAURANTS THAT I LIKE CAN'T HAVE EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THE
06:52:57PM EMPLOYEES CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.
06:52:58PM THE SCHOOLS CAN'T KEEP TEACHERS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO
06:53:03PM LIVE HERE.
06:53:03PM THE HOSPITALS ARE HAVING TROUBLE WITH NURSES AND EMPLOYEES
06:53:06PM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.
06:53:07PM IF THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE AND
06:53:11PM EVERYBODY IS BEING REPLACED, AND I AM ONE OF THOSE THAT
06:53:13PM MOVED HERE, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE THE SAME.
06:53:16PM SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ADDRESS THE HOUSING ISSUE.
06:53:19PM THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT IT IS AFFORDABLE.
06:53:22PM NOT ONLY BY PROVIDING ASSISTANCE BUT CHANGING POLICIES THAT
06:53:26PM MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT IS SUSTAINABLE.
06:53:28PM THANK YOU.
06:53:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:53:31PM YES, MA'AM.
06:53:32PM >> GOOD EVENING.
06:53:34PM KELLA McCASKILL.
06:53:37PM I SAID I WILL KEEP REPEATING THIS.
06:53:39PM FORBES RECENTLY ANNOUNCED THAT WE ARE ONE OF THE GREATEST
06:53:43PM CITIES TO LIVE IN.
06:53:44PM I WILL KEEP SAYING THAT UNTIL WE PERFORM AND ACT LIKE WE
06:53:47PM KNOW THAT.
06:53:47PM BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THEY DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD A 26,000-PLUS
06:53:51PM POPULATION THAT NEEDS HOUSING.
06:53:52PM SO I AM ASKING TONIGHT IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT TODAY
06:53:56PM IN THIS BUDGET.
06:53:57PM THE ADMINISTRATION SAID THAT HOUSING -- THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT
06:54:01PM HOUSING IS AN EMERGENCY.
06:54:02PM I KNOW I COMPARED IT TO A HURRICANE.
06:54:04PM BUT THE ADMINISTRATION SAID THEY KNEW IT WAS AN EMERGENCY
06:54:08PM BUT SAYING THAT THE HOUSING DOESN'T HAVE A REOCCURRING FUND
06:54:11PM FOR AT LEAST THE FOUR YEARS YOU ALL GET TO BE HERE.
06:54:14PM IT SAYS TO ME THAT IT IS NOT.
06:54:16PM BECAUSE IF IT WERE IMPORTANT IT WOULD HAVE THE $10 MILLION
06:54:19PM REOCCURRING FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
06:54:21PM THAT IS THE MAXIMUM YOU CAN EXTEND THAT TYPE OF FUND.
06:54:24PM AND REOCCUR FOR FOUR YEARS.
06:54:26PM ALL OF YOU RAN A CAMPAIGN ON HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY.
06:54:30PM ALL OF YOU.
06:54:31PM AND TONIGHT, WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS A COMMITMENT.
06:54:34PM RIGHT NOW, HOUSING IS ON THE GIRLFRIEND STATUS.
06:54:38PM WE WANT TO COMMITMENT.
06:54:39PM WE WANT YOU TO PUT A RING ON IT.
06:54:41PM TONIGHT, YOU GET TO PUT A RING ON $10 MILLION FOR THE NEXT
06:54:45PM FOUR YEARS.
06:54:46PM WE WANT TO MAKE IT PLAIN.
06:54:48PM MAKE IT SIMPLE SO THE COMMUNITY CAN UNDERSTAND AND EVERYBODY
06:54:51PM KNOWS YEAR AFTER YEAR.
06:54:52PM WE ARE ASKING YOU FOR $10 MILLION PLUS FOR FOUR YEARS, AT
06:54:57PM LEAST IF THAT THE MAXIMUM.
06:55:00PM IF YOU CAN DO MORE, DO MORE.
06:55:02PM TONIGHT, THAT IS THE KIND OF COMMITMENT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
06:55:05PM THANK YOU.
06:55:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
06:55:07PM >> GOOD EVENING, MY NAME IS MATT WILSON.
06:55:13PM I WASN'T GOING TO COME HERE.
06:55:15PM I WILL HAVE TO DO THIS CLUMSINESS, I THINK.
06:55:22PM SECRETS OF LIFE, NOT WHAT YOU DO BUT HOW DO YOU IT.
06:55:27PM A LOT PEOPLE HAVE GOOD IDEAS AND THEY FAILED BECAUSE THEY
06:55:31PM DIDN'T THINK OF EXACTLY HOW.
06:55:32PM THE DETAILS MATTER A LOT.
06:55:34PM THE HOMELESS ISSUE I WILL TALK ABOUT BUT ALL THE HOUSING
06:55:38PM ISSUE.
06:55:38PM WILL NOT STOP, THE IMMIGRANTS, ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS WILL
06:55:41PM KEEP MULTIPLYING, LIKE ONE WAVE AFTER ANOTHER TO ANOTHER.
06:55:46PM WHAT I WANT TO SAY, CUT TO THE CHASE.
06:55:50PM THE SOLUTION OF THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE SOLUTION THEY HAVE
06:55:52PM BEEN USE SOMETHING COMMUNAL LIVING.
06:55:53PM SPENDING $2,000 A MONTH PLUS A CHECK PLUS THIS AND THAT TO
06:55:58PM GET HOMELESS PEOPLE OUGHT THE STREETS IS WHAT THE CITIES
06:56:02PM HAVE BEEN DOING.
06:56:03PM $60,000 TO $100,000 TO GET A HOMELESS PERSON OFF THE STREET IS
06:56:09PM UNSUSTAINABLE.
06:56:10PM THE KEY TO THE FUTURE IS TAKING OLD BUILDINGS, EMPTY GROCERY
06:56:14PM STORES, SCHOOLS, TURNING THEM INTO LARGE COMMUNAL LIVING
06:56:20PM PLACES AND PUTS LOTS WHERE YOU CAN PUT 00 PEOPLE AT A TIME.
06:56:23PM IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I THINK YOU WILL WAIT TOO LONG TO
06:56:26PM DO IT.
06:56:27PM AND I DON'T EVEN WANT TO SAY WHAT WE THINK AND END UP WITH
06:56:31PM CONCENTRATION CAMPS, AND IN THE '30s, IN THE DEPRESSION, WE HAD
06:56:36PM AN INTELLIGENT PRESIDENT WHO SAW THIS AND KNEW HOW TO MOVE
06:56:39PM THE GOVERNMENT AND MOVE THINGS AND THEY STARTED AN
06:56:41PM ORGANIZATION CALLED ITS WPA TO PUT PEOPLE TO WORK.
06:56:45PM BUILT CAMPS OUTSIDE IN THE WOODS, OUT IN LANDS AND
06:56:48PM GOVERNMENT LANDS AND PUT UP THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND PUT THEM
06:56:50PM TO WORK.
06:56:52PM IF WE DON'T START GETTING TO THAT VERY QUICKLY, THIS --
06:56:55PM EVERYBODY -- MY, MY, ME, ME, MINE, MINE, MORE ROAR, MORE,
06:57:02PM ISN'T SUSTAINABLE.
06:57:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:57:04PM YES, MA'AM.
06:57:05PM >> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, I AM LINDA WIGGINS, AND I AM FROM
06:57:14PM FAITH IN FLORIDA.
06:57:15PM THIS YEAR, THERE WERE THREE LAWS THAT WERE IMPLEMENTED ON
06:57:21PM HOUSING.
06:57:22PM ALL OF THEM HARMFUL.
06:57:25PM SB 102, ALTHOUGH THE LIVE LOCAL ACT HAD GOOD PARTS TO IT, IT
06:57:34PM HAD A HARMFUL PREEMPTION PIECE THAT TOOK ALL AUTHORITY FROM
06:57:39PM YOU ALL AND FROM COUNTY OFFICIALS.
06:57:41PM SO THAT WE COULD NOT GET A STATE OF EMERGENCY DECLARED IN
06:57:47PM ORDER TO GET RENT STABILIZATION HB 1417 IS ANOTHER HARMFUL
06:57:56PM PREEMPTION BILL THAT PUTS THE LANDLORD TENANT RELATIONSHIPS
06:58:01PM UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE STATE HB 133 GIVES LANDLORDS THE
06:58:10PM RIGHT TO CHARGE FEES IN LIEU OF SECURITY DEPOSITS AND THESE
06:58:15PM FEES ARE NONREFUNDABLE.
06:58:17PM WE KEEP COMING UP HERE.
06:58:19PM AND KEEP SAYING THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER ASKING FOR THE
06:58:24PM SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER.
06:58:25PM I HEARD THE GENTLEMAN SAY AND I THINK HE IS YOUR CFO IF I AM
06:58:34PM CORRECT.
06:58:34PM THIS BUDGET IS A PROPOSAL AND CAN AND PROBABLY WILL -- HE
06:58:39PM DIDN'T SAY PROBABLY WILL, I AM SAYING PROBABLY WILL.
06:58:42PM CHANGE.
06:58:44PM SIMPLY BECAUSE THERE IS $10 MILLION IN THE BUDGET, DOES NOT
06:58:48PM MEAN $10 MILLION WILL BE SPENT ON HOUSING.
06:58:51PM WE NEED IT TO BE SPENT ON HOUSING.
06:58:54PM I AM TIRED OF COMING HERE.
06:59:00PM TIRED OF GETTING CALLS.
06:59:02PM LOVE HER, BUT WHEN ROBIN CALLS ME, I KNOW WHAT I AM COMING
06:59:06PM FROM.
06:59:06PM AND I AM TIRED OF IT.
06:59:08PM THIS IS NOT EVEN MY JOB ANYMORE, BUT I'M HERE BECAUSE I CARE
06:59:18PM MY POSITION HAS CHANGED.
06:59:20PM I WILL KEEP COMING HERE AND TALK ABOUT HOUSING UNTIL WE SEE
06:59:24PM A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
06:59:25PM WE HAVE MORE AND MORE HOMELESS PEOPLE BECAUSE -- EXCUSE ME.
06:59:29PM I DON'T LIKE THAT TERM.
06:59:31PM WE HAVE MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHOUSED.
06:59:33PM BECAUSE THE HOUSING CRISIS IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED IN THE
06:59:40PM PROPER MANNER.
06:59:41PM SO WE ARE GOING TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE WILL GIVE
06:59:45PM RENTAL ASSISTANCE, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
06:59:50PM UNHOUSED.
06:59:50PM WHAT DO THEY GET.
06:59:56PM DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHERE THEY ARE?
06:59:58PM I REALLY AND RULE TO LIE HOPE THAT SOMETHING IS DONE, THAT
07:00:02PM ENOUGH IS DONE.
07:00:03PM BECAUSE IF NOT, I WILL KEEP COMING AND I WILL KEEP COMING
07:00:08PM AND I AM BECOMING ANGRIER AND ANGRIER WITH WHAT IS GOING ON
07:00:14PM IN THIS CITY COUNCIL, WITH WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE ENTIRE
07:00:19PM STATE OF FLORIDA.
07:00:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:00:23PM >> THANK YOU.
07:00:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
07:00:25PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:00:30PM MIKE BILLEK, SECRETARY OF TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS LOCAL 754.
07:00:36PM A LOT OF PASSIONATE SPEAKERS UP HERE WHEN IT COMES TO
07:00:40PM HOUSING.
07:00:40PM UP WANT TO MAKE THINGS VERY CLEAR.
07:00:42PM WE ARE NOT HERE COMPETING WITH THEM.
07:00:44PM HOUSING IS A NEED.
07:00:45PM PUBLIC SAFETY IS A NEED.
07:00:46PM THE MORE HOUSING WE HAVE, THE MORE DEMAND WE HAVE FOR PUBLIC
07:00:50PM SAFETY.
07:00:50PM WE ARE ONE IN THE SAME.
07:00:51PM THE REAL REASON WHILE WE MIGHT NOT GET THE GRANT WAS TOUCHED
07:00:57PM ON.
07:00:58PM IT IS NOT FOR SURE YET.
07:00:59PM IT IS BECAUSE WE HAVE TOO BIG OF A SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
07:01:02PM IF I COME TO YOU AND ASK YOU FOR -- TO LOAN -- TO LOAN ME
07:01:06PM SOME MONEY OR, HEY, I NEED $10,000 TO DO THIS BUT I HAVE
07:01:12PM $100,000 IN MY SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
07:01:15PM YOU WILL NOT GIVE ME THE MONEY.
07:01:16PM WHY WOULD THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GIVE US THE MONEY?
07:01:19PM 18 FIRE FIGHTERS/PARAMEDICS WERE PRESENTED IN MR. ROGERO'S
07:01:25PM PRESENTATION.
07:01:26PM AVERAGE AT $100,000 PER EMPLOYEE.
07:01:30PM AND I KNOW HE IS TALKING OF TOTAL COMPENSATION, BUT LET'S BE
07:01:34PM CLEAR.
07:01:34PM WE TYPICALLY HIRE PARAMEDICS SCHOOL WITHIN THE FIRST THREE
07:01:42PM YEARS.
07:01:42PM THAT FIRE FIGHTER EMT WHEN THEY GET ON THE JOB THEY MAKE
07:01:47PM $55,000.
07:01:47PM BASE PAY.
07:01:48PM I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS $45,000 OF A $55,000
07:01:55PM SALARY IN ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY.
07:01:57PM THE FIRE CHIEF HAS AN OBJECTIVE TO GET A RESCUE CAR OR
07:02:05PM AMBULANCE IN EVERY STATION IN THIS CITY, OKAY.
07:02:06PM CURRENTLY THERE IS FIVE FIRE STATIONS THAT DO NOT HAVE A
07:02:12PM RESCUE CAR OR TRANSPORT VEHICLE.
07:02:14PM SO IF YOU PUT TWO PEOPLE ON EACH UNIT WHICH IS TYPICALLY HOW
07:02:19PM THEY ARE STAFFED, THERE ARE THREE SHIFTS.
07:02:21PM SO THAT IS SIX.
07:02:22PM FIVE STATIONS, SIX TIMES FIVE, 30.
07:02:27PM SOUNDS LIKE THE GRANT THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO GET.
07:02:30PM THOSE VEHICLES ARE ALREADY PURCHASED.
07:02:32PM THEY WERE PURCHASED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
07:02:34PM THE FIRE CHIEF STATED TO YOU, THERE ARE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES
07:02:38PM WHY THESE VEHICLES ARE NOT HERE TODAY.
07:02:40PM THEY ARE COMING.
07:02:41PM SO IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THIS GRANT SO WE CAN PUT
07:02:45PM RESCUE CARS AT EVERY FIRE STATION.
07:02:47PM THAT IS YEARS AND YEARS AGO THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE.
07:02:51PM IN REGARDS TO FIRE STATION 24.
07:02:56PM WE ALREADY HAD $12 MILLION PROMISED TO US IN A BUDGET THAT
07:03:02PM JUST VANISHED.
07:03:03PM NOWHERE.
07:03:04PM NO ONE CAN ANSWER WHERE IT IS.
07:03:07PM SO WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS YEAR WHEN WE GET MONEY
07:03:10PM PROMISED TO US FOR A FIRE STATION?
07:03:13PM THE RESERVE FUND, AS YOU SAID, CHAIRMAN, IT IS THE RAINY DAY
07:03:17PM FUND.
07:03:18PM GUESS WHAT, COUNCIL, IT'S RAINING.
07:03:20PM FIRE RESCUE HAVE DEFICITS THAT ARE DECADES IN THE MAKING,
07:03:27PM NOT YEARS, BUT DECADES IN THE MAKING.
07:03:29PM AND TIME TO STOP KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND START FIX
07:03:33PM WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE DONE A LONG TIME AGO.
07:03:35PM IF WE ARE GOING TO SPEND A YEAR -- I HAVE 15 MORE SECONDS IF
07:03:39PM YOU DON'T MIND, SIR.
07:03:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
07:03:41PM >> SPEND A YEAR ON DESIGN FOR FIRE STATIONS THAT CAN HE
07:03:44PM CONTINUE TO COPY AND PASTE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WHY DON'T WE
07:03:48PM PUT THAT TIME TO USE AND START DESIGNING A FIRE STATION THAT
07:03:52PM IS SAFER AND CLOSER TO INDUSTRY STANDARDS TO HELP SUPPORT
07:03:55PM OUR FIRE FIGHTERS.
07:03:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
07:03:58PM >> WE DON'T WANT A VICTORY IF IT COMES CONTINUE TO THE BACKS
07:04:02PM OF THE BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN BLUE.
07:04:04PM WE DON'T WANT TO VICTORY.
07:04:06PM WE ARE HERE TOGETHER.
07:04:07PM THANK YOU.
07:04:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:04:09PM NEXT SPEAKER, YOUR NAME.
07:04:12PM >> JOHN MILLER, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA POLICE
07:04:15PM BENEVOLENT ASSOCIATION.
07:04:17PM APPRECIATE STAFF PUTTING TOGETHER WHAT SEEMS TO BE A FAIRLY
07:04:21PM COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET.
07:04:22PM THINGS I LIKE ABOUT THE BUDGET.
07:04:23PM THINGS I STILL HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT.
07:04:25PM I LIKE THE FACT THEY KEPT THE MATCHING GRANT MONEY FOR THE
07:04:29PM 30 EXTRA OFFICERS.
07:04:30PM I THINK THAT IS ABSOLUTELY VITAL.
07:04:32PM I LIKE THAT THEY -- THAT THEY LOOKED AT CONTINUING TO FUND
07:04:35PM OUR VEHICLES FULLY FROM THE CIT FUNDING.
07:04:38PM VERSUS USING THAT FOR OTHER PURPOSES.
07:04:41PM MY CONCERNS WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
07:04:44PM ONE, WE HAD ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING ON TOP OF THE CIT
07:04:49PM MONEY, THE CIT MONEY, WHILE NICE, DOES NOT COVER ALL OF OUR
07:04:55PM NEEDS.
07:04:56PM GOING BACK TO, VEHICLES THAT WILL BE OLDER AND TAKE EVERY
07:04:59PM DOLLAR THAT YOU TAKE OUT OF THAT, THAT YOU USE TO SEND TO
07:05:03PM SOMETHING ELSE IS A DOLLAR MORE CAUSING ISSUE FOR US LONG
07:05:06PM TERM.
07:05:06PM I DON'T THINK DOING THAT IS IT IS A QUICK FIX WHEN YOU CAN
07:05:09PM DO THINGS LIKE HE IS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE FIRE STATIONS, I
07:05:15PM THINK THEY ARE ALL VITAL.
07:05:16PM YOU LICK SAFETY, POLICE AND FIRE ARE VITAL.
07:05:19PM OTHER WAYS TO DO IT.
07:05:20PM A COUNCILMAN, THE FOURTH AND FIFTH TIME BRING UP IN OCTOBER
07:05:24PM THAT YOU WILL BE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF BONDING
07:05:27PM THINGS.
07:05:27PM I'M A BELIEVER THAT IN BONDING STUFF LIKE THAT, IN A TIME
07:05:31PM WHEN I AM HAVING A CRISIS IN THE HOUSE AS FAR AS MONEY GOES,
07:05:35PM I DON'T LOOK TO THEN PAY MY ENTIRE MORTGAGE OFF AT ONE TIME.
07:05:39PM I LOOK TO MORTGAGE AND BOND THINGS OUT IN THE LONG TERM.
07:05:42PM I THINK THAT MAJOR REHAB THE FIRE STATIONS IS SOMETHING ELSE
07:05:46PM WITH A BOND BECAUSE NOT GOING TO USE IT ALL IN ONE YEAR.
07:05:48PM IT IS NOT GOING TO BE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR WHERE YOU
07:05:51PM DO IT AGAIN THE NEXT YEAR.
07:05:52PM NOT A ONE-TIME THING.
07:05:54PM MAKE THE FIRE STATION AFTER 20, 30 YEARS AND CONTINUE TO BE
07:05:58PM PAID FOR IN MY OPINION OVER A COURSE OF TIME.
07:06:00PM I THINK ASKING SOMEONE SHOULD WE USE THIS FOR THIS IMPORTANT
07:06:04PM NEED OR THIS IMPORTANT NEED WHEN THEY ARE BOTH IMPORTANT.
07:06:06PM I MEAN, LIKE ASKING -- DO YOU NEED FOOD AND WATER.
07:06:10PM TECHNICALLY NEED WATER FIRST AND THEN STILL NEED FOOD.
07:06:13PM I THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT NOT ONLY WILL THEY NEED THEIR
07:06:16PM VEHICLES, THEY NEED THE FIRE STATIONS.
07:06:18PM I THINK THERE IS A WAY TO DO BOTH OF THEM.
07:06:19PM ONE IS THE MAJOR EXPENSE AND FUNDING THROUGH BONDING.
07:06:24PM THE OTHER CONCERN AND I WILL RELINQUISH ANY TIME LEFT.
07:06:28PM IN RELATION TO MANNING.
07:06:29PM A 50% REDUCTION IN OVERHIRE POSITIONS TO TPD BRINGS US DOWN,
07:06:36PM CHIEF, FROM 20 TO 10 THEN MEANS 10 OVERHIRE POSITIONS WHICH
07:06:41PM IS STILL DOABLE IF YOU INCREASE IT BY THE 30 OFFICERS THAT
07:06:45PM ARE THE FUNDS.
07:06:46PM THE CONCERN IS THOSE OVERHIRES BASICALLY DILUTING THE VALUE
07:06:52PM OF THE 30 OFFICERS WHEN YOU CUT OVERHIRES.
07:06:56PM WE OVERHIRE WHEN SOMEONE IS ANTICIPATED ON LEAVING BECAUSE
07:06:59PM TAKES SO LONG TO SEND SOMEONE THROUGH ALL OF THE TRAINING TO
07:07:03PM GO OUT TO THE STREET.
07:07:04PM OTHERWISE -- YES, YOU WILL SEE THEM IN ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
07:07:08PM REDUCING OVERHIRES, MAKE NO MISTAKE, DILUTES 30 OFFICERS
07:07:15PM BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE AS MANY BODIES ON THE STREET.
07:07:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
07:07:19PM MR. STOCCO, YES, SIR.
07:07:23PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:07:24PM NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS, THE FIRE
07:07:29PM FIGHTERS YOUR NEIGHBOR IN YOUR BACKYARDS.
07:07:31PM I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR TIME ALWAYS ON THE PHONE,
07:07:34PM AS WELL AS THE PARK SOMEBODY WHO THAT THE AND HEARTFELT
07:07:37PM STORIES WE HEARD TODAY.
07:07:39PM THE HOUSING CRISIS IS A SERIOUS AND DIRE NEED AS PUBLIC
07:07:43PM SAFETY, FIRST RESPONDERS, FIRE FIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS, WE
07:07:48PM TEND TO A LOT OF THE HOMELESS AND GOES HAND IN HAND WITH
07:07:51PM HOUSING AS WE INCREASE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND MORE OBJECTING
07:07:56PM BIBLE SPACE WE NEED THE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO HELP THE
07:07:59PM HOUSING NEEDS.
07:07:59PM THE FIRE UNION, YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY SICK AND TIRED OF MY
07:08:03PM E-MAILS.
07:08:03PM I KNOW YOU ARE.
07:08:04PM I SEE IT IN YOUR FACE.
07:08:06PM I FLOOD YOU GUYS WITH E-MAILS BECAUSE WE PROVIDED YOU WITH
07:08:09PM ALL THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE NEEDED THAT WE HAVE BEEN
07:08:11PM REPEATING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR MANY YEARS.
07:08:14PM IT IS TIME TO ACT.
07:08:16PM IT IS TIME TO DO SOMETHING.
07:08:17PM I HAVE SENT THE SAME DOCUMENT MENTATION OVER AND OVER AND
07:08:21PM OVER AGAIN.
07:08:21PM IT IS TIME TO ACT.
07:08:23PM IT IS TIME TO DO SOMETHING WE ARE IN A CRISIS WITH FIRE
07:08:29PM STATIONS.
07:08:29PM 70% OF OUR FIRE STATIONS ARE PAST THEIR LIFE EXPECTANCY.
07:08:35PM AS YOU HEARD ONE TO THREE YEARS TO BUILD ONE.
07:08:38PM IF WE DON'T ACT TODAY, WE ARE FURTHER MOVING BACK AND
07:08:44PM FURTHER MOVING BACK.
07:08:45PM AS YOU HEARD WE WERE PROMISED.
07:08:48PM NOT JUST WE WERE PROMISED BUT THE CITIZENS WERE PROMISED A
07:08:51PM FIRE STATION.
07:08:52PM YOU LET THE CITIZENS DOWN.
07:08:53PM NOT JUST THE FIRE FIGHTERS.
07:08:54PM THINK ABOUT THAT ONE.
07:08:55PM THE FIRE FIGHTERS THAT ARE HERE BEHIND ME, THE PEOPLE THAT
07:08:59PM ARE HERE IN HOUSING THAT SPOKE FROM THE HEART.
07:09:02PM WHEN THE HEART STOPS TICKING, WHO COMES TO GET YOU.
07:09:05PM THE FIRE FIGHTERS, THE PARAMEDICS.
07:09:07PM ALL THE ONES BEHIND ME THAT KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE TO SAVE A
07:09:12PM LIFE.
07:09:13PM THAT IS WHAT WE DO.
07:09:14PM WE SAVE LIVES.
07:09:15PM EARLY DEFIBRILLATION AND RESUSCITATE PEOPLE.
07:09:19PM YOU TELL ME WHAT MATTERS THE MOST.
07:09:22PM SAVING LIVES IS WHAT MATTERS THE MOST TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
07:09:27PM AND THAT IS PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHAT WE DO AS FIRE FIGHTERS,
07:09:31PM AND WHAT WE DO AS FIRE FIGHTERS-PARAMEDICS.
07:09:33PM WE NEED THE HELP.
07:09:35PM WE NEED THE SUPPORT.
07:09:37PM WE NEED HEALTH AND SAFETY IN OUR LIVING CONDITIONS.
07:09:39PM 1914 IS WHEN STATION 6 WAS BUILT.
07:09:43PM EIGHT YEARS AGO IT WAS REMODELLED THROUGH DONATIONS, 13
07:09:47PM AUGUSTLY MEN.
07:09:48PM WE NEED THESE LIVING CONDITIONS TO BE SUSTAINABLE SO WE CAN
07:09:54PM SEE RETIREMENT.
07:09:57PM WE ARE NOT MAKING IT PAST FIVE YEARS.
07:09:59PM WE ARE GOING TO START INTRODUCING TO YOU GUYS SOME FIRE
07:10:03PM FIGHTERS THAT HAVE PASSED BECAUSE OF THE HEALTH AND SAFETY
07:10:07PM CONDITIONS WE HAVE RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACK YARD.
07:10:09PM AND YOU ALL CAN START BY MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN INVESTING
07:10:12PM INTO OUR LIVES BY THESE STATIONS THAT WE LIVE IN NOT BY
07:10:17PM CHOICE.
07:10:17PM WE HAVE TO GO THERE.
07:10:18PM THAT IS WHERE WE WORK.
07:10:20PM LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING AND PUT PUBLIC SAFETY SPECIFICALLY
07:10:26PM FIRE AT THE FOREFRONT SO WE CAN GET OUT OF THESE HORRIBLE
07:10:29PM LIVING CONDITIONS.
07:10:30PM THANK YOU.
07:10:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:10:32PM NEXT SPEAKER.
07:10:33PM YES, SIR.
07:10:34PM >> ED FIFER.
07:10:42PM OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN PROMISED TO THIS
07:10:45PM CITY FOR A LONG TIME.
07:10:46PM DOING A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY LESSON -- NORMALLY MR.
07:10:53PM MIRANDA'S AREA.
07:10:54PM I BEGAN INTERESTED IN PUBLIC WHEN GETTING A MASTERS'S IN
07:11:00PM BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION.
07:11:01PM I WATCHED THE BUDGET GROW AND GROW AND I WATCHED A BUDGET
07:11:06PM LITERALLY IN THE LAST NINE YEARS GROWN 125%.
07:11:10PM THE PREVIOUS 15 YEARS, GREW 135%.
07:11:15PM IF OUR BUDGET IS GROWING THAT RAPIDLY Y WHY IS IT NOT
07:11:19PM FIREHOUSES.
07:11:20PM WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR HOUSING.
07:11:22PM WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING?
07:11:24PM WHEN HE MANAGED CONTRACTS FOR THE STATE, I USED TO SEE A
07:11:27PM DETAILED LINE ITEM WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET.
07:11:31PM I DON'T THINK THAT IS WHAT YOU GUYS GET BECAUSE I CAN'T FIND
07:11:34PM IT IN ANY PLACES I LOOKED ONLINE.
07:11:36PM OKAY.
07:11:37PM THE IDEA -- I HEARD "BONDING."
07:11:43PM A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE WHO USED TO BE ON COUNCIL.
07:11:47PM HE LOST THE COUNCIL RACE BECAUSE HE OBJECTED TO THE IDEA
07:11:51PM OF USING BOND MONEY TO BUY FIRE EQUIPMENT IN THE JUNKYARD
07:11:54PM BEFORE THE BONDS ARE DUE.
07:11:55PM OUR LAST MAYOR WAS ON COUNCIL WHEN THAT WAS DONE.
07:11:59PM AND YET HE SPENT THE WHOLE WAD FOR THE BP SETTLEMENT ON
07:12:05PM REDOING JULIAN LANE PARK.
07:12:08PM LIKE TAKING A LUXURY CRUISE WHEN YOUR ROOF IS LEAKING.
07:12:12PM WE HAVE SO MANY UNMET NEEDS, AND EVERY YEAR, THEY GET KICKED
07:12:16PM DOWN THE ROAD.
07:12:16PM I APPLAUD THE FACT THAT YOU ALL STARTED LOOKING AT THE
07:12:20PM BUDGET.
07:12:21PM THE ONE THING THE CHARTER SAYS YOU HAVE COMPLETE CONTROL
07:12:24PM OVER EVERY NICKEL THAT IS SPENT.
07:12:26PM PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, GO FURTHER WITH THAT.
07:12:30PM ASK FOR MORE DETAILED BUDGET AND LOOK AT THIS A LOT LONGER
07:12:34PM THAN A MONTH BEFORE YOU ARE EXPECTED TO PASS IT.
07:12:36PM THANK YOU ALL.
07:12:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:12:41PM YES, SIR.
07:12:41PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:12:43PM ELTON LASSIDER.
07:12:46PM I AM THE LEAD ORGANIZER FOR FLORIDA RISING, BUT I'M HERE TO
07:12:50PM READ A STATEMENT FROM ONE OF OUR COALITION PARTNERS.
07:12:52PM THE STATEMENT FROM COREY JONES, THE FLORIDA POLITICAL
07:12:57PM DIRECTOR OF 11299, SEIU.
07:13:00PM HEALTH CARE WORKERS, LARGEST UNION OF CAREGIVERS AND OTHER
07:13:04PM STAFF IN HOSPITALS AND NURSING HOMES ACROSS THE STATE.
07:13:07PM IT SAYS OUR UNION OF 35,000 CAREGIVERS AND OTHER WORKERS AT
07:13:14PM HOSPITALS AND NURSING HOMES IN TAMPA AND ACROSS FLORIDA
07:13:17PM PROVIDE SOME OF THE THIS COMMUNITY'S AND SOCIETY'S GREATEST
07:13:21PM NEED.
07:13:22PM CARING FOR OUR SICK, ELDERLY, AND OTHER VULNERABLE, OFTEN
07:13:27PM VERY LOW WAGES.
07:13:29PM WHILE CARING FOR OTHERS, THEY STRUGGLE TO PAY THEIR OWN
07:13:32PM BILLS AND SUPPORT THEIR OWN FAMILIES.
07:13:34PM RAISING -- RISING HOUSING COSTS ARE MAKING IT EVEN MORE
07:13:39PM DIFFICULT AND SOMETIMES IMPOSSIBLE FOR THESE DEDICATED
07:13:42PM CAREGIVERS TO LIVE HERE.
07:13:43PM THEY DESPERATELY NEED SUPPORT FROM THE CITY AND LEADERS TO
07:13:47PM PROVIDE RENTAL RELIEF AND ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
07:13:51PM WITHOUT HELP AND THESE PRONGS, OUR MOST ESSENTIAL WORKERS
07:13:55PM WILL NO NOT BE ABLE TO LIVE HERE.
07:13:57PM IF WE LOSE THE PEOPLE WHO CARE FOR OUR SICK AND OR ELDERLY
07:14:01PM LOVED ONES, WHERE WOULD WE BE?
07:14:04PM ON BEHALF OF 1199 SIEU MEMBERS AND THOUSANDS OTHER
07:14:09PM CAREGIVERS HERE IN TAMPA BAY, WE ASK COMMISSIONERS TO
07:14:11PM PROPERLY FUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.
07:14:15PM THANK YOU.
07:14:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
07:14:18PM YES, MA'AM, NEXT SPEAKER.
07:14:19PM >> OH, MY GOODNESS.
07:14:25PM SORRY.
07:14:26PM MY FAULT.
07:14:27PM NOW THAT I WOKE EVERYBODY UP.
07:14:28PM WELL, BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU KNOW, I LOVE MY LITTLE NUMBERS.
07:14:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ZOOM OUT SO WE CAN SEE IT.
07:14:37PM WE CAN'T SEE IT.
07:14:39PM >> LET ME ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT AND WHILE I AM SITTING HERE
07:14:43PM THINKING BECAUSE I DON'T COME HERE PREPARED ANYMORE.
07:14:46PM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THAT RIGHT HERE I HAVE THREE
07:14:52PM PROMISE THAT WERE BROKEN.
07:14:54PM THREE.
07:14:55PM I HAVE THREE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE HERE IN FRONT OF THIS
07:15:00PM COUNCIL THAT WERE BROKEN.
07:15:01PM AND I AM VERY, VERY CONCERNED THAT WE ARE ALL GOING TO GO
07:15:05PM HOME TONIGHT WITH OUR $10 MILLION.
07:15:07PM AND IT SHOULD BE REOCCURRING.
07:15:09PM DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY THAT, MR. ROGERO THAT IT IS NOT --
07:15:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MA'AM, MA'AM --
07:15:20PM >> I WON'T TALK TO HIM ANYMORE.
07:15:22PM IF IT IS NOT REOCCURRING, WE WON'T HAVE THE MONEY WE NEED.
07:15:25PM WE HAVE TO PUT THAT FIRST AND FOREMOST.
07:15:28PM I SPENT TWO SECONDS ONLINE AND GOOGLED IT.
07:15:32PM HOUSING CUTS THE NEED FOR POLICE AND FIRE.
07:15:35PM IT GETS PEOPLE OFF THE STREET.
07:15:38PM THEY GET MEDICAL CARE.
07:15:40PM THEY HAVE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD.
07:15:42PM THEY ARE NOT OUT COMMITTING CRIMES.
07:15:44PM THE FOLKS WHO ARE ON THE STREETS ARE 40% MORE LIKELY TO BE
07:15:50PM VICTIMS OF VIOLENT CRIME.
07:15:51PM THEY ARE 27% MORE LIKELY TO BE VICTIMS OF NONVIOLENT CRIME.
07:15:57PM SO THAT RIGHT THERE TELLS YOU THAT IF WE ARE SPENDING MONEY
07:16:01PM BEING PREVENTIVE INSTEAD OF REACTIVE, THAT IS WHERE WE NEED
07:16:05PM TO GO.
07:16:06PM AND EVERY SINGLE SITUATION.
07:16:08PM I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT THEY WERE TOLD LAST YEAR GETTING
07:16:13PM 55.
07:16:13PM AND I GO BACK AND WATCH IT AND MAN, IT IS LIKE -- WATCHING A
07:16:18PM SNAKE CHARMER.
07:16:18PM BECAUSE WHEN I GOT -- WHEN I WENT BACK TO LOOK THIS YEAR A
07:16:22PM YEAR LATER, I WENT HOLY CRAP, THAT IS WHAT THEY SAID.
07:16:25PM THEY WERE VERY CAREFUL WITH THEIR WORDING.
07:16:28PM I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT $5.5 MILLION GOING TO SOLID
07:16:32PM WASTE.
07:16:32PM AND THEY SAID, OH, THE MONEY IS ALREADY SPENT, BUT YET ON
07:16:37PM THURSDAY'S AGENDA, THERE IS A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR
07:16:41PM EQUIPMENT FOR SOLID WASTE.
07:16:42PM THAT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS SHOULD BE GOING TO, WHERE?
07:16:47PM DING, DING, DING, HOUSING.
07:16:49PM BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE WERE TOLD A YEAR AGO.
07:16:51PM WE WERE TOLD IN 2021 THAT.
07:16:54PM GETTING A FIRE STATION.
07:16:56PM HOW DO PEOPLE SLEEP AT NIGHT WHEN THEY LIE TO THE PUBLIC!
07:17:03PM I AM SORRY, BUT THAT IS A LIE.
07:17:05PM IF YOU TOLD US YOU WERE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, THEN BY GOD
07:17:08PM YOU DO IT.
07:17:09PM IF I SAY I AM GOING TO DO SOMETHING, I'LL MOVE HEAVEN AND
07:17:13PM EARTH TO DO IT.
07:17:14PM I KNOW MOST OF YOU AS PEOPLE WOULD DO THAT AS WELL.
07:17:16PM INSTEAD, WE ARE BEING LIED TO.
07:17:19PM WHY?
07:17:20PM WHAT IS THE POINT?
07:17:23PM WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH ALL THIS MONEY THAT WE CAN'T
07:17:26PM POSSIBLY GIVE UP?
07:17:27PM WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH IT?
07:17:29PM I THOUGHT THIS LADY BROUGHT UP JESUS TONIGHT, AND I THINK SHE
07:17:32PM DID A GOOD POINT.
07:17:32PM SOMEBODY NEEDS TO START DOING SOME FRAYING BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
07:17:36PM LIE, FOLKS.
07:17:36PM YOU CAN NOT LIE TO FOLKS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECT THEM
07:17:39PM TO TRUST YOU.
07:17:40PM AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT COUNCIL.
07:17:42PM BECAUSE COUNCIL DIDN'T TAKE THE MONEY AWAY FOR THE FIRE
07:17:46PM STATION.
07:17:46PM COUNCIL DIDN'T TAKE THE MONEY AWAY FOR HOUSING.
07:17:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
07:17:51PM YES, MA'AM.
07:17:52PM IF NOBODY ELSE, MISS LOCKETT WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER.
07:17:56PM YES, MA'AM.
07:17:56PM MR. SCAGLIONE, YOU WANT TO SPEAK TOO?
07:18:02PM YOU WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER.
07:18:04PM MR. ROBINSON WILL CLOSE US OUT.
07:18:08PM MISS LOCKET, YES, MA'AM.
07:18:10PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:18:12PM FIRST I WANT TO SAY WITH THE CFO, WHEN -- HE IS PRESENTING.
07:18:22PM AND HE -- MATERIAL FUND BALANCE.
07:18:24PM I SAT BACK THERE WONDERING, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
07:18:27PM AND HE INDICATED I WASN'T SURE WHAT IT MEANT.
07:18:30PM IF HE IS PRESENTING SOMETHING ABOUT THE MATERIAL FUND
07:18:34PM BALANCE AND NO ONE KNOW WHAT IS IT MEANS, THAT IS IMPORTANT.
07:18:38PM RIGHT.
07:18:39PM WE ARE TALKING OF THE BUDGET.
07:18:41PM HOUSING NEEDS TO BE FULLY FUNDED.
07:18:45PM I THINK YOU HEARD IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
07:18:47PM WHEN I SAY FULLY FUNDED, YOU ARE SAYING $10 MILLION.
07:18:52PM HOWEVER $10 MILLION IS COMES, WE TAKE IT.
07:18:54PM REOCCURRING FUNDS ALSO, RIGHT.
07:18:56PM BECAUSE THEY NEED -- THE ABILITY TO BE I BELIEVE TO GET
07:19:01PM LOANS, MOVE THE MONEY FORWARD AND PLAN LONG-TERM.
07:19:05PM WE ARE ALL READJUSTING OUR FINANCES.
07:19:12PM I AM READJUSTING MY FINANCES.
07:19:13PM I THINK IT IS ONLY FAIR THAT THE CITY HAS TO READJUST
07:19:17PM THEIRS.
07:19:17PM WITH TOWARDS PEOPLE.
07:19:21PM I WILL BE MOBILIZING PEOPLE HERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
07:19:24PM YOU GUYS KNOW IT.
07:19:25PM THE NEW COUNCILMEMBERS ARE UNAWARE UNLESS YOU WATCHED ON
07:19:30PM TELEVISION, BUT PEOPLE HAVE PLED, PLEADED, CRIED
07:19:35PM AND BEGGED FOR SOMETHING TO BE DONE AROUND HOUSING.
07:19:38PM TODAY, I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET ME TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT
07:19:42PM WITH COUNCIL.
07:19:43PM BECAUSE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT -- WITH LBGTQ-IA, JEWISH CAUCUS,
07:19:49PM DISABILITY CAUCUS, 1199, DEMOCRATIC PROGRESSIVE,
07:19:55PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DEMOCRATIC BLACK CAUCUS, FAITH, TOBA,
07:20:00PM URBAN LEAGUE.
07:20:01PM WHEN YOU ARE GOING OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, YOU ARE
07:20:03PM LOOKING FOR THESE PEOPLE FOR THEIR ENDORSEMENT.
07:20:06PM SO I CONTACTED THEM TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED FOR YOU TO COME
07:20:10PM DOWN HERE.
07:20:11PM OMEGA SI PHI.
07:20:16PM WE NEED FOR TO YOU COME DOWN HERE BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO
07:20:19PM ASK YOU SOMETHING IN A YEAR OR SO.
07:20:20PM AND WE DO NOT NEED SHORT MEMORIES.
07:20:23PM $5 MILLION OUT OF A $1.9 MILLION BUDGET IS A SMALL FEAT.
07:20:33PM AND I -- I SEE THE HEADS SHAKING WITH REGARDS TO AGREEANCE,
07:20:37PM SO I AM HOPING THAT Y'ALL STICK TO YOUR GUNS AND FUND
07:20:41PM HOUSING.
07:20:41PM I HAVE BEEN SO LASER FOCUSED ON HOUSING.
07:20:46PM I AM NOT AGAINST FIRE.
07:20:47PM I LOVE MY FIREMEN.
07:20:49PM I THINK WE -- OF COURSE, WE SHOULD FUND FIRE.
07:20:52PM I THINK THE TOP TWO CONCERNS ARE NOT EVEN -- THE TOP TWO
07:20:58PM CONCERNS ARE HOUSING AND FIRE.
07:21:00PM RIGHT.
07:21:02PM BECAUSE IN FIRE, IT HAS BEEN -- NOT GIVEN THEIR DUE FOR
07:21:07PM YEARS.
07:21:07PM BECAUSE OF POLICE -- I AM NOT AGAINST POLICE, BUT, YOU KNOW,
07:21:12PM WITH REGARDS TO PRIORITY.
07:21:13PM SO PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
07:21:15PM HAVE THE COURAGE TO FUND HOUSING TOTALLY AND MAKE FIRE --
07:21:21PM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT YOUR SECOND -- THE SECOND IMPORTANT
07:21:25PM DEPARTMENT.
07:21:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:21:27PM MISS LOCKETT, AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT APPROVES, I WILL MAKE A
07:21:31PM MOTION TO MOVE THE $5 MILLION IN RESERVES TO HOUSING THAT
07:21:35PM WILL ADD TO THE $5.5 MILLION AND $1.5 MILLION AND WILL BE
07:21:41PM $12 MILLION TOTAL.
07:21:42PM >> OKAY.
07:21:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL MAKE THE MOTION WHEN EVERYBODY IS
07:21:47PM DONE.
07:21:47PM MR. SCAGLIONE.
07:21:49PM >> ANDY JOE SCAGLIONE.
07:22:04PM GOOD EVENING.
07:22:04PM SEPTEMBER 5, LEFT 1:15 IN THE MORNING.
07:22:08PM LAST WEEK, MONITORED ON THE PHONE FROM 1:00 UNTIL 10 P.M.
07:22:14PM THE CFO PRESENTATION I SAW EARLIER, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK
07:22:17PM STAFF AND THANK Y'ALL FOR LISTENING TO THE FEEDBACK WE HAVE
07:22:21PM BEEN GIVING YOU ALL AND WORKING TOGETHER AND BEING TRUE
07:22:24PM PUBLIC SERVANTS.
07:22:26PM IF EVERYBODY LEAVES TODAY, GOOD NEGOTIATIONS, EVERYBODY
07:22:30PM LEAVES TODAY A LITTLE BIT NOT HAPPY, DOING A GOOD JOB.
07:22:34PM IF SOMEBODY LEAVES VERY HAPPY, WE HAVEN'T DONE A GOOD JOB
07:22:38PM OPINION I FEEL LIKE WE ALL ARE GOING TO LEAVE A LITTLE
07:22:41PM UNHAPPY TONIGHT.
07:22:41PM TWO BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT I HAVE ARE BONDING.
07:22:44PM DEBT IS NOT YOUR FRIEND, OKAY.
07:22:46PM TAKING OUT A MORTGAGE FOR KIDS TO PAY.
07:22:56PM YOU ARE LOOKING AT COST OF FUNDS BEING AT 22% HIGH, BOND
07:23:01PM SOMETHING NOT WHAT YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT TODAY.
07:23:04PM PAY AS YOU GO.
07:23:05PM THE GUYS, YOU NEVER GET THEM BACK IN THE BOND.
07:23:08PM TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF GUYS.
07:23:09PM JUST THINK ABOUT THAT, PLEASE.
07:23:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES.
07:23:14PM YES, SIR.
07:23:15PM >> RESERVES, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES IN WHAT WE USE IN
07:23:21PM BUSINESS.
07:23:21PM AND RESERVES SHOULD ONLY GO TO ONE-TIME CAPITAL
07:23:25PM EXPENDITURES.
07:23:26PM THEY SHOULD NEVER GO TO REOCCURRING EXPENSES.
07:23:28PM WHEN YOU START DOING THAT, YOU ARE GOING TO BUST THE BANK.
07:23:35PM BECAUSE IT WILL CONTINUE, CONTINUE, CONTINUE.
07:23:37PM I PREFER CIT.
07:23:39PM AS YOU KNOW A BIG CIT PERSON.
07:23:42PM WE GET THIS RENEWED.
07:23:43PM WE CAN BRING IN -- IF WE DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AS IN
07:23:49PM THE PAST, WE CAN BRING IN CLOSE TO $15 MILLION A YEAR.
07:23:52PM LET'S NOT BOND IT AND BOND IT OUT AS -- ARIZONA A PREVIOUS
07:23:57PM SPEAKER, MR. PFEIFFER SAID SOMETHING THAT LASTS TEN YEARS
07:24:02PM AND BONDING IT OUT FOR 30.
07:24:04PM AGAIN, A VERY GOOD POINT.
07:24:06PM I HAVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND WHY I CAME TONIGHT TO THANK THE
07:24:14PM MAYOR AND JOHN BENNETT ON THEIR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, HARD
07:24:18PM WORK AND DISCIPLINE REGARDING THE RAISE.
07:24:20PM WE DIDN'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES THAT WE HAVE IN THE PAST.
07:24:26PM WE DIDN'T GIVE AWAY THE FARM.
07:24:28PM I WISH THE RAISE THAT -- IN ST. PETE, GREAT SUCCESS.
07:24:33PM AS I HAVE SAID IN REAL ESTATE, YOU PAY FOR GOOD LOCATION
07:24:37PM ONCE LIKE TAMPA.
07:24:39PM YOU PAY FOR AN INFERIOR LOCATION EVERY DAY.
07:24:45PM COSTS YOU SAME AMOUNT TO STAFF IT.
07:24:47PM THE SAME AMOUNT TO PUT THE LIGHTS ON.
07:24:50PM AND THE SAME AMOUNT TO BUILD IT.
07:24:51PM I WISH THEM WELL, BUT THEY MADE A MISTAKE.
07:24:54PM THANK YOU
07:24:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:24:56PM MR. ROBINSON.
07:24:58PM AND YOU WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER.
07:25:00PM YES.
07:25:03PM >> JOE ROBINSON.
07:25:12PM THANK YOU, DR. BENNETT.
07:25:13PM THANK YOU, MAYOR.
07:25:14PM AND THANK YOU, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
07:25:17PM YOU CAN PUT $100 MILLION IN HOUSING, BUT WITH THE SYSTEM WE
07:25:25PM HAVE FOR IMPLEMENTATION IT WILL TAKE TEN YEARS TO GET IT ALL
07:25:29PM SPENT.
07:25:30PM SO THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.
07:25:31PM YOU ARE NOT SPENDING WHERE YOU ARE MONEY AT THE CITY FAST
07:25:34PM ENOUGH.
07:25:34PM YOU SPEND IT FAST ENOUGH, YOU WILL GET MORE.
07:25:36PM SEE, WHEN YOU SIT BACK WITH MONEY IS SITTING THERE, AT $19
07:25:41PM MILLION SITTING IN WEST TAMPA CRA FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
07:25:46PM THAT IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THE CITY.
07:25:47PM I TOLD THE CITY ADMINISTRATION THAT.
07:25:51PM I DONE TOLD THE CRA STAFF AND ALL OF THEM THAT YOU CAN
07:25:55PM IMPLEMENT HOUSING -- HOW CAN WE IMPLEMENT HOUSING
07:25:58PM INITIATIVES, ESPECIALLY CRA PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS.
07:26:02PM IMPLEMENTATION.
07:26:04PM IMPLEMENTATION IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM FOR ANY CONSTRUCTION
07:26:09PM ADMINISTRATION PROJECT.
07:26:09PM IT DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG TO BUILD A FIRE STATION IF USING
07:26:13PM PLANS.
07:26:13PM I AM AN ENGINEER AND I AM GOING TO BE QUIET BECAUSE I HAVE
07:26:17PM THEM IN CHECK MATE RIGHT NOW.
07:26:18PM I WILL JUST LEAK THAT TO YOU.
07:26:20PM IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO SPEND MONEY BECAUSE IMPLEMENTATION.
07:26:27PM YOU ARE SITTING THERE WITH ALL THIS MONEY IN THE BUDGET, $2
07:26:30PM BILLION.
07:26:31PM AND YOU GOT ONE DEPARTMENT CAN'T GET IT DONE.
07:26:34PM WHY?
07:26:35PM WE PUT $2 MILLION IN A PARK IN RAY PARK.
07:26:38PM AIN'T NOTHING HAPPENING.
07:26:39PM WHY?
07:26:40PM DON'T GET ME STARTED.
07:26:42PM BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
07:26:43PM IT IS IMPLEMENTATION.
07:26:45PM IT IS CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION.
07:26:47PM THAT DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE REVAMPED AND MR. BENNETT IS
07:26:50PM TRYING HIS BEST TO DO IT.
07:26:52PM AND SO IS PURCHASING.
07:26:54PM THOSE ARE YOUR PROBLEMS AT THE CITY.
07:26:56PM THE ROADBLOCKS.
07:26:57PM IF YOU WANT TO BE -- CAN WE RESPECT THE GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS
07:27:03PM DEPARTMENT TO OVERSEE OUR LOBBYISTS?
07:27:06PM YES, CAN YOU WANT TO BE MAYOR, BALANCE THE BUDGET WITHOUT
07:27:10PM TAKING MONEY FROM THE POOR, HOMELESS, SLUM AND BLIGHTED
07:27:13PM AREAS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS CRAS, YES, WE CAN.
07:27:17PM IF YOU WANT TO BE MAYOR WORK WITH THE EXISTING MAYOR
07:27:20PM ADMINISTRATION, HONESTLY, YES, WE CAN.
07:27:23PM IF YOU WANT TO BE MAYOR, CAN THE CITY'S EDO DEPARTMENT BE
07:27:28PM FUNDED SO THAT ALL THE CAPITAL PROJECT, WATER, SEWER, SOLID
07:27:34PM WASTE, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS FOR COMPLIANCE.
07:27:37PM YES, WE CAN IF YOU WANT TO BE MAYOR.
07:27:39PM BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE MAYOR, DON'T DO ANY OF THOSE
07:27:43PM THINGS.
07:27:43PM AND I LEAVE WITH YOU THIS THOUGHT.
07:27:45PM IMPLEMENTATION.
07:27:47PM IMPLEMENTATION.
07:27:49PM IMPLEMENTATION IS NOT HAPPENING.
07:27:51PM AND I KNOW HOW TO GET IT IMPLEMENTED.
07:27:53PM BUT I DON'T GET PAID TO DO THAT, OKAY.
07:27:57PM BUT DON'T GET TO THE POINT WHERE IT BECOMES PUBLIC
07:28:02PM CORRUPTION.
07:28:02PM I AM GOING TO LEAVE WITH YOU THAT THOUGHT AND TEN SECONDS ON
07:28:06PM THE CLOCK.
07:28:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:28:08PM WE WILL TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND COME BACK TO COUNCIL'S
07:28:12PM QUESTION, COMMENTS, DISCUSSIONS.
07:28:13PM WE ARE TAKING A BREAK.
07:28:14PM THANK YOU.
07:28:15PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
07:50:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SPEAK INTO THE MIC.
07:50:51PM ALL RIGHT.
07:50:53PM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING BACK TO
07:50:56PM ORDER.
07:50:57PM THE ROLL CALL.
07:50:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
07:50:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
07:51:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
07:51:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
07:51:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
07:51:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
07:51:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
07:51:05PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
07:51:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:51:08PM WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.
07:51:10PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:51:11PM AT THIS TIME, WE CAN GO TO CITY COUNCIL QUESTIONS OR
07:51:15PM COMMENTS.
07:51:18PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME?
07:51:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I THINK CONSCIOUSLY AND JUST WORKING
07:51:28PM TO FINALIZE THIS BUDGET THE BEST WE CAN.
07:51:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:51:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
07:51:33PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
07:51:35PM REALLY QUICK, IF I MAY.
07:51:36PM I WANT TO ESPECIALLY THANK -- I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE STILL
07:51:39PM HERE.
07:51:39PM WE HAD THREE MEMBERS OF THE TO BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
07:51:42PM MR. SCAGLIONE IS HERE.
07:51:44PM MISS SANCHEZ WAS HERE.
07:51:46PM I DON'T THINK SHE IS HERE ANY MORE AND MISS POYNOR WAS HERE.
07:51:51PM IF I MISSED ANYONE, I APOLOGIZE.
07:51:53PM A LOT OF HARD WORK.
07:51:54PM AND I WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR
07:51:57PM COMING AND SPEAKING OUT, ETC.
07:51:59PM VERY, VERY MUCH SO.
07:52:01PM APPRECIATE IT.
07:52:01PM A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO STRESS.
07:52:04PM I HAD MISS CLAY, KAREN CLAY COME UP TO SPEAK ON PEOPLE WITH
07:52:09PM DISABILITIES.
07:52:09PM AND TODAY I WAS MEETING WITH OUR FRIEND FROM THE LIVE, A
07:52:13PM WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION THAT ADVOCATES FOR ACCESSIBLE HOUSING
07:52:18PM FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
07:52:19PM I SUPPORT WHAT CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO SAID WITH REGARD TO
07:52:22PM HOUSING AND I WANT TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
07:52:24PM WHAT I WANT TO DO IS A MOTION TO MAKE SURE THAT -- I AM JUST
07:52:27PM GOING TO SAY IT APPEARS THAT 12% OF OUR POPULATION HAVE SOME
07:52:32PM SORT OF A DISABILITY THAT THE CITY CAN HAVE 12% OF THIS
07:52:35PM MONEY GO TO ACCESSIBLE HOUSING GEARED FOR PEOPLE WITH
07:52:39PM DISABILITIES.
07:52:39PM FOR THE FUNDING THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THIS
07:52:42PM YEAR.
07:52:42PM COUNCIL, ANY --
07:52:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE ASKING FOR OF THE $12 PLUS
07:52:53PM MILLION IN HOUSING THAT 12% GO TO ADA FUNDING OR PEOPLE WITH
07:52:57PM DISABILITIES?
07:52:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
07:52:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE A SECOND.
07:53:02PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOUR HAND IS UP.
07:53:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:53:05PM I WANT TO SAY ANOTHER PERSON -- I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN
07:53:09PM MISS CLAY OR SOMEONE ELSE THAT MENTIONED THE FACT THAT WE
07:53:12PM SHOULD TRY TO GET AS MUCH OF OUR HOUSING AS ACCESSIBLE AS
07:53:16PM POSSIBLE.
07:53:17PM I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO SET A NUMBER ON IT BECAUSE I WANT
07:53:20PM TO GO BEYOND THAT NUMBER.
07:53:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: SURE.
07:53:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW -- I THINK MISS TRAVIS IS HERE.
07:53:26PM IF MISS TRAVIS MIGHT SPEAK TO HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY MAKE SURE
07:53:32PM WE JUST INCUR IT.
07:53:33PM JUST TO SEE -- I THINK SHE MADE A GOOD POINT HOW WE HAVE A
07:53:37PM LOT OF ELDERLY COMING ON.
07:53:38PM PEOPLE WHO ARE YOUNGER THAT HAVE DISABILITIES.
07:53:41PM IT HAS GOT TO BE MORE THAN 12% WHO ARE GOING TO NEED THAT
07:53:46PM ASSISTANCE.
07:53:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY GOOD POINT.
07:53:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT MISS TRAVIS TO ASK HOW WE CAN INCLUDE
07:53:52PM THAT MORE.
07:53:54PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:53:56PM NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
07:54:01PM OPPORTUNITY.
07:54:01PM SO FLORIDA BUILDING CODE ALREADY ADDRESSES ADA
07:54:05PM ACCESSIBILITY, SO YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT IN ANY NEW
07:54:07PM DEVELOPMENT ANYWAY.
07:54:09PM TO PUT A RESTRICTION TO ARE A PERCENTAGE ON THE FUNDING THAT
07:54:15PM YOU ARE GOING TO DO FOR DEVELOPMENT MAKES IT MUCH MORE
07:54:18PM RESTRICTIVE.
07:54:19PM I THINK WE CAN TRY TO ACHIEVE -- ACHIEVE THAT, BUT -- BUT IF
07:54:25PM YOU PUT A PERCENTAGE ON IT, YOU MAY END UP WITH FUNDS THAT
07:54:30PM WE CAN'T SPEND AS FAST, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
07:54:34PM BUT I THINK THAT -- AS AN ASPIRATIONAL GOAL, YOU CAN
07:54:38PM CERTAINLY DO THAT.
07:54:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMETHING WE CAN JUST PUT IN OUR -- IN OUR --
07:54:44PM WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THINGS.
07:54:45PM LOOKING AT 30% OR MAYBE GROUND FLOOR UNITS WOULD BE ADA
07:54:50PM COMPLIANT OR, I DON'T KNOW.
07:54:52PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT -- WHAT I PROPOSE --
07:54:56PM WHAT I WOULD ELEMENTARY TO YOU IS THAT WE NOT PLAY THE ROLE
07:55:00PM OF DEVELOPER AND NOT BE -- THE PRIVATE SECTOR WILL TAKE CARE
07:55:05PM OF THAT, RIGHT.
07:55:06PM WE NEED TO PARTNER WITH DEVELOPERS AND PUTTING SUCH
07:55:09PM RESTRICTION ON HAVING A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF YOUR UNITS.
07:55:13PM IT MAY BE MORE RESTRICTIVE.
07:55:15PM LIMITS MY POOL OF -- WITH THE DEVELOPERS THAT I CAN WORK
07:55:18PM WITH AND NEGOTIATE.
07:55:19PM BUT IF YOU LIST THAT AS SOMETHING THAT IS ASPIRATIONAL, WE
07:55:24PM WILL WORK TOWARD THAT.
07:55:24PM BUT YOU DON'T -- I DON'T THINK YOU WANT TO BE AS RESTRICTIVE
07:55:28PM GOING INTO THIS AS YOU CAN.
07:55:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
07:55:32PM I APPRECIATE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK YOUR THOUGHTS.
07:55:34PM VERY, VERY VALUE.
07:55:36PM SO, THERE ARE PROJECTS -- NUMBER ONE, YOU ARE RIGHT.
07:55:40PM EVERYTHING HAS TO BE ADA ACCESSIBILITY AND PRESUMPTION, WHAT
07:55:44PM NOT.
07:55:44PM I AM TALKING ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, GROUP HOMES AND THINGS THAT
07:55:48PM ARE NARROWLY -- MY OLDEST BROTHER, JUAN, LIVES IN A GROUP
07:55:52PM HOME.
07:55:52PM EAGLE'S RISING GROUP HOME IN BRANDON, PEOPLE WITH
07:55:57PM INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.
07:55:58PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS NUMBER ONE, PUT THAT AS
07:56:02PM ASPIRATION.
07:56:03PM TEN STRONG SUGGESTIONS, MAYBE NOT THE TEN COMMANDMENT, AS I
07:56:07PM SAY.
07:56:08PM NUMBER TWO, HAVE THAT AS A GOAL OF THE CITY INVESTING AND WE
07:56:12PM HAVE YOU ALL MEETING WITH THE LIVE AND DIFFERENT
07:56:14PM ORGANIZATIONS FOR SOME SORT OF A DEVELOPMENT WHICH IS FOR
07:56:17PM PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES.
07:56:18PM SO WE -- WE CAN HAVE THAT AS AN ASPIRATION.
07:56:22PM WHAT I AM ACTUALLY GOING TO DO -- MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I MAKE
07:56:26PM MOTION FOR SOMETHING TO COME BACK FOR A LATER TIME BEFORE
07:56:29PM COUNCIL TODAY OR JUST SOMETHING FOR ACTION TODAY.
07:56:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, I WILL REQUEST THAT YOU HOLD IT
07:56:35PM FOR ANOTHER DAY.
07:56:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THURSDAY, WE HAVE OUR REGULAR MEETING IF
07:56:39PM YOU WANT TO BRING IT UP.
07:56:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT I WILL DO WITH YOUR ADVICE AND COUNCIL'S
07:56:43PM ADVICE AS WELL, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN
07:56:48PM CARLSON FOR THE SECOND.
07:56:48PM SET THAT FOR AN ASPIRATION.
07:56:50PM WHAT THE HELL, DO 15% FROM UP FROM 12%.
07:56:54PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
07:56:55PM I WILL MOTION WITH THE MONEY WE ARE GETTING TO SEE TO IT
07:56:57PM THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR PERSONS
07:57:02PM WITH DISABILITIES.
07:57:03PM THERE IS SUCH A BIG POPULATION IN THAT REGARD.
07:57:05PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
07:57:07PM NOT FOR IT TO COME BACK BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO THAT TODAY, SO I
07:57:10PM WILL DO THAT THURSDAY.
07:57:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AN EXISTING MOTION ON THE FLOOR WITH A
07:57:14PM SECOND.
07:57:14PM STEPS.
07:57:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: ENCOURAGE CITY STAFF TO DO 15% ASPIRATION FOR
07:57:26PM PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, AND I WILL MAKE MOTION ON THURSDAY
07:57:28PM TO GIVE THAT SOME TEETH, IF I MAY.
07:57:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:57:33PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:57:35PM ALL IN FAVOR.
07:57:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MORE DISCUSSION PLEASE.
07:57:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
07:57:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS CURRENT BUDGET WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
07:57:43PM RIGHT NOW.
07:57:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
07:57:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY
07:57:47PM DECIDED UPON.
07:57:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:57:49PM IF YOU WANT TO VOTE AGAINST IT, I MAY.
07:57:51PM TAKING A PRESUMPTION WE ARE GOING TO PASS SOMETHING FOR
07:57:54PM HOUSING.
07:57:54PM TO THE EXTENT WE PUT -- WHETHER $1 OR $10 MILLION IN HOUSING
07:57:59PM WE HAVE AN AS RESPIRATORY RATION OF 15% TO GO WITH PEOPLE
07:58:04PM WITH DISABILITIES AND I WILL MOTION THAT I HAVEN'T DONE, TO
07:58:07PM MOTION ON THURSDAY TO COME BACK AT A LATER TIME FOR A
07:58:10PM SPECIFIC HOUSING PROJECT.
07:58:11PM TO THE EXTENT DEDICATE 1 MILLION OR $10 MILLION, WE HAVE
07:58:17PM THAT ASPIRATION.
07:58:18PM THAT'S IT.
07:58:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.
07:58:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:58:22PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:58:24PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
07:58:25PM ANY OPPOSE?
07:58:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
07:58:28PM TWO OTHER BRIEF ONES, IF I MAY.
07:58:29PM I WANTED TO ASK MISS WYNN, IF I MAY.
07:58:34PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I SHOULD HAVE GIVEN YOU THE GO-AHEAD
07:58:37PM AND WARNING BEFORE THAT.
07:58:38PM MY APOLOGIES.
07:58:39PM WITH REGARDS TO PARK AND RECREATION, CAN YOU OPINE WHAT WE
07:58:43PM ARE ADDITIONALLY PUTTING IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR FOR
07:58:45PM ENHANCED ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUNDS OUTSIDE OF OUR CRA.
07:58:50PM WE APPEAR TO HAVE A LOT TAKEN CARE OF WITHIN OUR CRAs.
07:58:55PM OUTSIDE THE CRAs, MONEY FOR ACCESSIBLE PLAYGROUND AGREEMENT
07:59:01PM OUTSIDE OF THE CRA IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
07:59:04PM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
07:59:08PM I DON'T HAVE INFORMATION FRONT OF ME.
07:59:10PM IF YOU GIVE ME A MINUTE, I CAN PROBABLY GET IT.
07:59:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY, GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
07:59:16PM >>OCEA WYNN: WHAT WE DO -- I CAN TELL YOU THIS, WHENEVER WE
07:59:20PM PUT IN A PLAYGROUND.
07:59:21PM WE PUT IN ACCESSIBLE EQUIPMENT.
07:59:23PM IF THAT ANSWERS -- WE ARE SET ON THAT.
07:59:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT THE AND PULL ME ASIDE
07:59:29PM SO YOU DON'T TAKE COUNCIL'S TIME.
07:59:32PM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
07:59:32PM I APPRECIATE YOU.
07:59:33PM THIRD I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
07:59:35PM WITH REGARDS TO THE FIRE STATION.
07:59:37PM I WANT TO TAKE COUNCIL BACK TO THE URGENCY OF THIS.
07:59:41PM DO YOU REMEMBER THE OLD COUNCIL WITH JOY GRECO, THE DAVID
07:59:44PM LEE ROTH OF LOCAL 754 CAME HERE WHEN WE WERE IN COVID.
07:59:48PM HE WAS ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND HE GAVE THAT IMPASSIONED
07:59:53PM SPEECH ON FIRE STATIONS.
07:59:54PM GOT ALL OVER THE MEDIA.
07:59:55PM JOE WAS VIRTUALLY CRYING OUT OF EMOTION AND HERE WE ARE TWO,
07:59:59PM TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATER AND WE HAVE GOTTEN 25.
08:00:04PM A BIG DEAL, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE BIG DEALS.
08:00:07PM I WANT TO THE ASK OUR CHIEF OF STAFF JOHN BENNETT.
08:00:10PM YOU WERE TELLING ME OUTSIDE, SIR, REGARDING THE PROJECTED
08:00:15PM FATHER YOU HAVE FOR STATION 24, JUST SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE.
08:00:19PM WHAT I WANT TO DO, RIGHT, IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE LIFTOFF
08:00:22PM HERE TODAY.
08:00:23PM 100% LIFTOFF WITH ENFORCEABLE.
08:00:25PM I AM GOING TO MOTION ON THURSDAY FOR THIS TO COME BACK TO US
08:00:28PM IN JANUARY.
08:00:28PM I AM GOING TO MOTION FOR THE BOND DISCUSSION TO COME BACK US
08:00:31PM TO IN OCTOBER, NOT DECEMBER, SO WE CAN GET A RESOLUTION OF
08:00:34PM THAT.
08:00:34PM BECAUSE OUR FRIENDS IN FIRE AND THE COMMUNITY THEY SERVE I
08:00:38PM THINK NEED TO SEE THAT THE TRAIN HAS LEFT THE STATION ON
08:00:41PM THIS.
08:00:41PM SIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
08:00:43PM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
08:00:47PM I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION BECAUSE WHEN WE FIRST ARRIVED IN
08:00:49PM THE ADMINISTRATION WITH COUNCIL FOUR YEARS AGO, THE FIRST
08:00:52PM THING MAYOR CASTOR ASKED OF THE FIRE CHIEF WAS SORT OF A
08:00:58PM MASTER PLAN MOVING FORWARD.
08:01:00PM WE UNDERSTAND THE STATIONS, ESPECIALLY 24 WHERE THEY WERE
08:01:03PM ALIGNED BASED ON THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION, BUT WE
08:01:05PM OBVIOUSLY ARE DATA DRIVEN.
08:01:07PM I HAD ASKED TO SEE WHAT IS CALLED THE STANDARD COVERAGE
08:01:12PM REPORT IT SEE WHERE THE DATA WAS FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
08:01:14PM WE GOT A REPORT FROM -- FROM THE FIRE UNION OF STATION
08:01:20PM PLACEMENT FROM -- FROM THE DEEPER SIDE OF THE IFF WHICH WAS
08:01:24PM VALUABLE AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAD THAT UPDATED A COUPLE
08:01:27PM OF YEARS AGO AS RECENT AS LAST YEAR.
08:01:29PM I TOOK THE DATA FROM CHIEF TRIPP AND TRIED TO CODE IT BY
08:01:34PM COUNCIL DISTRICTS TO SEE IT WHERE THE STRENGTH AND
08:01:37PM WEAKNESSES WERE.
08:01:38PM WE HAVE A LOT OF CATCHING UP TO DO IN FIRE.
08:01:40PM THE MAYOR KNOWS THAT.
08:01:42PM COUNCIL KNOWS THAT.
08:01:43PM THE MEN AND WOMEN OF TAMPA FIRE RESCUE KNOW THAT AS WELL AS
08:01:47PM CHIEF TRIPP AND WE WILL WORK TOGETHER.
08:01:49PM SPECIFIC ME WITH FIRE STATION 24, MR. ROGERO TALKED ABOUT
08:01:54PM IT, BUT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO DRILL DOWN WHERE WE ARE
08:01:56PM HEADED HERE.
08:01:57PM I WILL THROW THIS SLIDE UP HERE WHICH IS RIGHT OUT THE
08:02:01PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BEEN BUDGET.
08:02:03PM THE REASON I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT IS IT IS ALREADY
08:02:06PM MENTIONED $1.5 MILLION IN THERE.
08:02:07PM WHEN YOU LISTEN TO MISS DUNCAN OF THE JOURNEY OF NINE TO 12
08:02:13PM MONTHS TO GET TO DESIGN AND DO A FEW OTHER THINGS.
08:02:17PM WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT IS SHOVEL READY AND ACTIONABLE.
08:02:20PM I BELIEVE IF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET GETS PASSED THE
08:02:24PM WAY IT IS, EVERYTHING WILL MOVE FORWARD.
08:02:26PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.
08:02:28PM WE LOOKED AT FIRE STATION 13 THREE TO FOUR YEARS WOOING
08:02:36PM PRESIDENT JOE GRECO.
08:02:37PM THE CALL LOAD FOR ENGINE 13 WAS UNACCEPTABLE.
08:02:42PM DRAG IT OUT WITH STATION 25.
08:02:44PM STATION 24 IS EMBEDDED IN STATION 13.
08:02:48PM AND COLLOCATED AND CHIEF TRIPP HAS BEEN WORKING HARD WITH US
08:02:52PM IN SUPPORT TO TRY TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO STATIONS AND PUT IT
08:02:55PM IN THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE LOCATION.
08:02:57PM I EVEN APPROACHED USF TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BUILD A FIRE
08:03:02PM STATION BECAUSE WE SERVICE USF AND FILL IT WITH 24 SINCE WE
08:03:08PM ALREADY HAVE THE RESOURCES AND GO OUT THE BACK DOOR TO
08:03:13PM FOWLER AND FRONT DOOR TO NEW TAMPA AND SERVE BEYOND THAT
08:03:16PM CAMPUS.
08:03:16PM BUT TO DATE, WE HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY MOVE THAT
08:03:19PM FORWARD SO IT IS STILL OUT THERE.
08:03:21PM REGARDLESS, WE WILL TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN.
08:03:23PM YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PUTS ALMOST
08:03:26PM $19.5 MILLION OVER THE FIVE-YEAR SPAN.
08:03:29PM NOW, OF COURSE, THOSE TIMELINES CAN BE COMPRESSED DOWN BASED
08:03:32PM ON HOW FAST WE CAN MOVE.
08:03:33PM BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK THE BALANCE OF THE WHOLE
08:03:37PM PLAN BESIDES 24 IS WHAT CHIEF TRIPP SAYS, TO GET THE FIRE
08:03:43PM STATIONS FILLED WITH THE RESCUE UNITS BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU
08:03:45PM I CODED LAST YEAR'S CALLS FOR SERVICE AND WE ARE DEALING
08:03:48PM WITH A MAJORITY OF OUR CALLS ARE MEDICAL.
08:03:51PM AND WE DON'T NEED OUR FIRE ENGINES RUNNING THE WHEELS OFF
08:03:54PM GOING TO MEDICAL CALLS.
08:03:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY -- UNLESS THERE ROGERO.
08:04:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
08:04:01PM DENNIS ROGERO.
08:04:05PM THAT $20 MILLION IS ANTICIPATED TO BE BONDED OR WITH DEBT
08:04:08PM SERVICE.
08:04:08PM WE DON'T HAVE THAT CASH NOR DO WE ANTICIPATE HAVING THAT
08:04:12PM CASH ON HAND WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND THIS IS NOT PART
08:04:15PM OF THE PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
08:04:18PM THIS WILL BE PART OF SHOULD COUNCIL CHOOSE TO, THE REVISED
08:04:22PM PROPOSED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT COUNCIL WILL BE
08:04:26PM APPROVING TONIGHT.
08:04:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I MR. CHAIR BRIEFLY.
08:04:31PM THE REASON I BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE OF BONDING.
08:04:33PM NOBODY LIKES BORROWING.
08:04:35PM WE HAVE DONE IT FOR OTHER PROJECTS.
08:04:37PM YOU KNOW, I TRIED TO PUT FORTH A COMPROMISE ON MORE REVENUE
08:04:41PM THAT I SUGGEST WOULD BE DEDICATED TO FIRE STATIONS AND
08:04:44PM PUBLIC SAFETY.
08:04:44PM AGAIN, THERE IS -- THERE IS REASONABLE PEOPLE CAN DISAGREE
08:04:48PM AND NOBODY LIKES, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS.
08:04:50PM AND JUST THE WAY IT IS.
08:04:51PM BUT WE GOT TO GET THIS THING DONE.
08:04:54PM WE GOT TO GET THIS THING DONE.
08:04:56PM I AM TIRED OF LOOKING AT TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
08:05:00PM AS THE OLD SONG GOES TRYING TO GET A DOLLAR OUT OF $.15.
08:05:04PM I AM TIRED OF IT.
08:05:05PM WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN THING OF FUNDING THINGS THROUGH AN
08:05:08PM ASSURED FUNDING RECOGNITION.
08:05:10PM IF JUST BONDS, LET'S JUST DO IT.
08:05:13PM LET'S DO IT AND GET IT DONE.
08:05:14PM I WILL BE MOTIONING TO BRING THIS BACK IN OCTOBER.
08:05:17PM I THINK THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
08:05:19PM ALSO, IF I MAY, CHIEF BENNETT, YOU TALKED THAT THIS BUDGET
08:05:22PM INCLUDES A NEW VEHICLE TO HELP OUT.
08:05:24PM I THINK IT WAS 22 WITH K-BAR RANCH.
08:05:28PM THAT'S CORRECT?
08:05:30PM >>JOHN BENNETT: YOU HEARD THE UNION AND CHIEF TRIPP DOG TALK
08:05:34PM ABOUT THE FIVE STATIONS AND CHIEF TRIPP WAS INNOVATIVE AND A
08:05:39PM RESCUE NUTRIENT STATION 19 IN WEST TAMPA FIVE THAT ARE NOT
08:05:43PM IN EXISTING FIRE STATIONS.
08:05:46PM MY UNDERSTANDING STATION 22 WHICH WILL SERVE THE K-BAR AREA
08:05:51PM AND RECEIVE A RESCUE VEHICLE AND THE FIRE FIGHTERS,
08:05:56PM PARAMEDICS IN THE BUDGET.
08:05:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHENEVER THAT HAPPENS, PLEASE LET US KNOW AND
08:06:00PM I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE -- IF WE HAVE -- NUMBER ONE, WE
08:06:03PM SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING FOR K-BAR RANCH.
08:06:05PM YOU KNOW, K-BAR RANCH IS CITY OF TAMPA, NEW TAMPA, THEY WERE
08:06:13PM RECENTLY BUILT AND THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY GET A LOT OF
08:06:15PM LOVE FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:06:17PM THEY REALLY DON'T.
08:06:18PM KIND OF LIKE THE ALASKA OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
08:06:21PM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
08:06:22PM I WANT TO THANK ALL OF CITY COUNCIL FOR PAUL OF YOUR SUPPORT
08:06:26PM ON THIS ISSUE FOR THE NEW AND NORTH TAMPA AREA.
08:06:28PM I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THAT TRAIN WILL LEAVE THE STATION
08:06:31PM AND NOTHING GOING TO BE TOPPING IT AT ALL.
08:06:33PM AND I REALLY THANK EVERYBODY ON CITY COUNCIL, EVERYBODY,
08:06:38PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, HURTAK, CLENDENIN, MANISCALCO, HENDERSON
08:06:42PM AND MIRANDA, EVERYBODY FOR YOUR HELP ON THAT FOR NORTH AND
08:06:47PM NEW TAMPA BECAUSE SO MUCH NEEDED.
08:06:48PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
08:06:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
08:06:53PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
08:06:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM AFRAID YOU ARE GOING TO HIT ME ONE
08:06:58PM DAY.
08:06:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: THE CUBAN IN ME.
08:07:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AFRAID YOU WILL HIT ME ONE DAY.
08:07:03PM OKAY.
08:07:05PM I THINK THAT THE -- THE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED BY
08:07:18PM STAFF SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AS IS INCLUDING PUTTING THE
08:07:27PM HOUSING MONEY SPECIFICALLY ADDING THE FUNDING TO HOUSING AND
08:07:32PM BEING VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT.
08:07:34PM BECAUSE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
08:07:35PM IT IS A PLAN.
08:07:36PM WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS WE GO.
08:07:39PM I THINK FOR USES TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE POSITION THAT IT
08:07:43PM IS RIGHT NOW AND I WILL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
08:07:45PM I WON'T TAKE THAT MUCH MORE OF COUNCIL'S TIME.
08:07:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:07:49PM FIRST, I WANT TO SAY, AGAIN, THANK YOU TO CHIEF BENNETT, TO
08:07:54PM MR. MASSEY.
08:07:55PM MR. PERRY.
08:07:56PM MR. ROGERO.
08:07:58PM I SEE MISS ZELMAN HERE AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY THAT
08:08:02PM WORKED TIRELESSLY, ESPECIALLY SINCE LAST WEDNESDAY, BECAUSE
08:08:05PM IT HAS BEEN NONSTOP.
08:08:06PM I HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH YOU ALL.
08:08:09PM AND I APPRECIATE YOU PROPOSING THIS AND BRINGING IT FORWARD
08:08:16PM TO US.
08:08:16PM MOST IMPORTANTLY I WANT TO THANK I CITY COUNCIL.
08:08:20PM EACH COUNCILMEMBER HAS BEEN DIVING DEEP INTO THIS BUDGET.
08:08:25PM I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU.
08:08:27PM WE HAVE TWO NEW COUNCILMEMBERS AND YOU WORKED DILIGENTLY AND
08:08:32PM VERY, VERY HARD.
08:08:33PM AND I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT
08:08:36PM JOB.
08:08:36PM I MENTIONED EARLIER OF HOUSING TAKING MONEY FROM THE
08:08:39PM RESERVES, THE $5 MILLION TO MOVE IT TO HOUSING THAT WILL ADD
08:08:44PM TO THE $5.5 MILLION AND THE $177 MILLION.
08:08:48PM GIVE US A TOTAL OF -- YES.
08:08:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
08:08:53PM CAN I REQUEST YOU BEFORE YOU MAKE A MOTION, CAN YOU SEPARATE
08:08:56PM THOSE TWO MOTIONS.
08:08:57PM THAT -- THE IDEA OF USING THE 1% -- THE $5 MILLION FROM
08:09:02PM RESERVE IS A SEPARATE DECISION FROM THE HOUSING.
08:09:05PM I PLAN ON VOTING FOR BOTH.
08:09:07PM BUT THE CONNECTION OF THE TWO OF THEM IS A FLIT CAL
08:09:10PM CONSTRUCT AND SEPARATE -- FROM A FINANCIAL POINT OF VIEW
08:09:13PM THEY ARE SEPARATE.
08:09:14PM IF YOU MAKE THEM SEPARATE, I WILL VOTE FOR THEM.
08:09:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU MEAN SEPARATE MOTION IN TAKE $5
08:09:19PM MILLION FROM THE RESERVES AND MOVE IT TO HOUSING.
08:09:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: DON'T MOVE IT.
08:09:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE IT OUT OF THE RESERVES.
08:09:26PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU ARE NOT PUTTING IT ANYWHERE AND GOING
08:09:31PM INTO ITS AVAILABLE MONEY.
08:09:32PM A SEPARATE MOTION WILL PUT $5 MILLION INTO HOUSING.
08:09:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO, THAT WILL BE FINE FOR
08:09:39PM CLARITY.
08:09:40PM READS THE SAME GOAL.
08:09:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN.
08:09:44PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNTY ATTORNEY.
08:09:47PM MAY I ACQUIRE WITH MR. ROGERO, WILL YOU ASSIST COUNCIL ON
08:09:52PM THE PROPER VERBIAGE HOW IT IS WITH ACCOUNTS SO IT FITS INTO
08:09:58PM YOUR GOVERNMENTAL ACCOUNTING SO WHEN IT IS REVIEWED DOWN THE
08:10:01PM ROAD, EVERYBODY KNOW IT IS MEANS THE SAME THING.
08:10:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CERTAINLY.
08:10:04PM I THINK IT IS ADEQUATE TO SAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE
08:10:09PM MOTION TO USED 5 UNTIL FROM THE ANTICIPATED FUND BALANCE FOR
08:10:12PM THE EXPENSES -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO -- FURTHER TO COUNCILMAN
08:10:16PM CARLSON, FOR THE EXPENSES THAT HAVE BEEN LAID OUT FOR YOU
08:10:20PM TONIGHT.
08:10:20PM THEN -- WHEN YOU GET TO THE -- IF YOU CHOOSE -- IF AND WHEN
08:10:25PM YOU GET TO THE EXPENSE COMPONENT THAT THE FIVE -- THE $5.2
08:10:30PM MILLION IN HOUSING IS PART OF THAT EXPENSE.
08:10:33PM ARE YOU GETTING READY TO MAKE THAT MOTION NOW, SIR?
08:10:36PM CAN I JUST SAY, ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION REGARDING THE
08:10:40PM FUND BALANCE.
08:10:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
08:10:43PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I AM NOT TRYING TO DISSUADE ANYBODY, BUT
08:10:46PM YOU HEARD COMMENTS THAT PERHAPS WE DIDN'T GET SAFER GRANT
08:10:50PM BECAUSE OF THE FUND BALANCE LEVEL.
08:10:52PM I DID NOT HEAR THAT.
08:10:53PM THE GRANT MANAGER HAS NOT HEARD THAT.
08:10:55PM BUT I WILL -- IF I CAN HAVE THE ELMO UP.
08:10:59PM AND I AM NOT SAYING THOSE THAT SAID IT WERE WRONG, BUT I
08:11:03PM WILL SAY, IN 2021, WE SAVED A SAFER GRANT FOR DOUBLE THE
08:11:08PM AMOUNT WE ASKED FOR.
08:11:09PM AND THAT WAS OUR -- THAT WAS NEARLY A DECADE.
08:11:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:11:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
08:11:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
08:11:19PM AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:11:21PM I ABSOLUTELY AGREE.
08:11:22PM JUST FOR CLARITY.
08:11:24PM AND SO IT IS ON THE RECORD THAT THE MONEY WILL BE ALLOCATED
08:11:29PM FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE SO NO CONFUSION.
08:11:31PM THEN I WOULD LIKE TO PASS THE GAVEL TO THE VICE-CHAIR TO
08:11:35PM MAKE THE MOTION.
08:11:36PM MY FIRST MOTION WILL BE TO TAKE $5 MILLION OUT OF THE
08:11:40PM RESERVE FUNDS TO PUT IN AVAILABLE SPENDING FOR A SPECIFIC
08:11:44PM EXPENSE.
08:11:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T WANT TO GET NERDY OR WONKISH,
08:11:50PM SPECIFY FOR FUND BALANCE.
08:11:52PM ANTICIPATED FUND BALANCE.
08:11:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RESTATE THE MOTION.
08:11:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION FOR
08:11:58PM CLARITY TO TAKE $5 UNTIL FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE TO BE
08:12:03PM MADE AVAILABLE FOR A SPECIFIC EXPENSE THAT I WILL DICTATE IN
08:12:08PM THE NEXT MOTION.
08:12:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A --
08:12:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU SAY AVAILABLE FOR EXPENSES?
08:12:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:12:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: FINE FOR OUR PURPOSES.
08:12:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE $5
08:12:23PM MILLION FROM THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE TO BE MADE FOR
08:12:26PM EXPENSES.
08:12:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
08:12:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
08:12:31PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:12:33PM IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION?
08:12:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK.
08:12:37PM MR. BENNETT, CAN YOU TELL ME IF THE MAYOR SUPPORTS THIS?
08:12:45PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
08:12:47PM AS FAR AS THE FUND BALANCE GOES, OBVIOUSLY YOU HEARD
08:12:53PM MR. ROGERO IS SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE ADMINISTRATION.
08:12:56PM JUST TO TALK OF THE RISK FACTORS.
08:12:58PM THE MAYOR'S STRATEGIC PLAN, ONE FIFTH IS HOUSING AND WE ARE
08:13:04PM WORKING COLLABORATIVELY TO GET THE RIGHT OUTCOME.
08:13:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU FOR MOVING -- YOU PUT IT AS IS AN
08:13:10PM OPTION, BUT DOES THE MAYOR SUPPORT.
08:13:12PM >>JOHN BENNETT: DEFERRING TO COUNCIL THAT HOUSING
08:13:17PM AUTHORITIES ARE MET IN THE BEST POSSIBLE WAY.
08:13:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IN THE LAST MEETING, MY COLLEAGUE
08:13:23PM RECOMMENDED IT -- OR SUGGESTED IT AND YOU ALL WENT THROUGH
08:13:25PM THE LIST AND YOU HAD ACCEPTED SOME THINGS AND DIDN'T OTHERS.
08:13:27PM I PRESUME SPINS IT CAME BACK, THE ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT
08:13:32PM OBJECT TO IT.
08:13:32PM AND I HAVE BEEN -- I HAVE BEEN PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ADVOCATE
08:13:36PM FOR FUND BALANCE ON CITY COUNCIL FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
08:13:39PM I BELIEVE STRONGLY IN THAT.
08:13:41PM >>JOHN BENNETT: WHY WE MADE IT SAN OPTION.
08:13:45PM WE KNOW THAT COUNCILMEMBERS -- IN THE ALL HAZARD ENVIRONMENT
08:13:50PM WE ARE IN, THE FUND BALANCE IS VERY IMPORTANT AS YOU HEARD
08:13:53PM MR. ROGERO SAID, BUT SO IS HOUSING AND.
08:13:56PM >> SUPPORTIVE OF THE BEST OUTCOME.
08:13:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN AN EFFORT OF COMPLAB A I HAVE IT.
08:14:00PM NICE TO NOT SEE AN ARTICLE THAT SAYING CITY COUNCIL IS
08:14:05PM HURTING OUR BOND RATING.
08:14:07PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I DON'T EXPECT ANY OF THAT.
08:14:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T THINK IT WILL HURT OUR BOND RATING.
08:14:14PM I HAVE BEEN TOLD IT WAS NOT.
08:14:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS SOURCE BUDGET NOW.
08:14:17PM AS I RECALL, IT GOES BY THE CITY ATTORNEY SO FORTH AND SO
08:14:21PM SON AND WE KNOW THAT ALREADY.
08:14:22PM SO I WOULD IMAGINE YOU WILL FIND OUT REAL SOON WHEN YOU SEND
08:14:26PM THE BUDGET BACK IF IT IS APPROVED OR NOT APPROVED.
08:14:28PM SO, I MEAN, THAT IS THE WAY IT WORKS.
08:14:32PM WE WOULD KNOW THAT.
08:14:33PM AND I GUESS BY THURSDAY, I AM SURE.
08:14:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING FURTHER?
08:14:43PM MY COMMENTS ON THIS -- I AM ALWAYS GRAVELY CONCERNED OF
08:14:46PM SPENDING INTO OUR RESERVES.
08:14:47PM I BELIEVE THAT -- YOU KNOW HONESTLY I KNOW PEOPLE ARE
08:14:51PM STRUGGLING, BUT IN A MACRO SCALE WHERE THESE ARE THE GOOD
08:14:55PM TIMES.
08:14:56PM WE HAVEN'T HAD A MAJOR HURRICANE OR DISASTERS.
08:15:00PM THAT FUND IS THE RAINY DAY FUND THE PORTION OF THE 20% AND
08:15:04PM WHATEVER WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY.
08:15:05PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, I BELIEVE THAT HOUSING IS A CRISIS.
08:15:08PM THAT IS WHY I PUT THE $5 MILLION ON THE BOARD AND I ALSO PUT
08:15:12PM THAT MONEY FROM THE RESERVE FUND ON THE BOARD WHEN WE DID
08:15:15PM THAT BRAINSTORMING EXERCISE LAST WEEK.
08:15:17PM SO I -- I -- AS MUCH AS IT PAINS ME TO SPEND INTO RESERVES,
08:15:23PM WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
08:15:23PM WE HAVE A CRISIS THAT WE HAVE TO RESOLVE SO I WILL BE
08:15:26PM SUPPORTING THIS MOTION.
08:15:27PM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
08:15:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
08:15:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
08:15:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
08:15:34PM MY THOUGHTS ARE THE SAME.
08:15:35PM SOMETHING THAT MR. SCAGLIONE SAID MAKES SENSE.
08:15:40PM GOING INTO THE RESERVE FOR SOMETHING ONGOING FOR YEARS CAN
08:15:45PM BE VERY PROBLEMATIC.
08:15:47PM I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE IDEA THAT THERE WAS A TAX INCREASE
08:15:50PM PROPOSED WITH ASSOCIATED SPENDING.
08:15:52PM CITY COUNCIL TURNED DOWN THAT.
08:15:54PM AND I AM NOT SAYING POINTING FINGERS BUT I VOTED ON THE TAX
08:15:57PM INCREASE IN ITS LARGEST FORM AND THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO
08:16:01PM SUPPORT THAT SPENDING.
08:16:02PM NOW WE ARE LOOKING FOR CUTS TO SUPPORT THAT SPENDING.
08:16:05PM AND THIS IS PART OF THAT.
08:16:06PM SO, AGAIN, I DO AGREE TO GO INTO THE RESERVES FOR AFFORDABLE
08:16:10PM HOUSING BECAUSE THIS IS A REAL, REAL CRISIS.
08:16:13PM I KNOW THAT NEXT THURSDAY, OUR FRIENDS IN THE COUNTY
08:16:15PM COMMISSION WILL BE DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE.
08:16:17PM AND WHATNOT.
08:16:18PM SO, AGAIN, I AM AMENABLE TO THAT.
08:16:21PM BUT I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT FOR HISTORICAL BACKGROUND.
08:16:24PM THANK YOU, SIR.
08:16:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A COUPLE OF COUNCILPERSONS WHO WANT TO
08:16:29PM SPEAK AGAIN.
08:16:30PM YOU WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE FIRST TIME.
08:16:32PM COUNCIL HENDERSON.
08:16:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, PRO TEM.
08:16:36PM THE $5.5 MILLION FROM 2023 PLUS THE $5 MILLION.
08:16:42PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR TO THE AUDIENCE AS WELL.
08:16:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY NEXT MOTION.
08:16:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:16:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:16:49PM FOR MY SECOND TIME, 40% OF US CAN'T AFFORD A $400 EMERGENCY.
08:16:55PM 60% CAN'T AFFORD A $600 EMERGENCY.
08:16:59PM AMERICANS OF 350 SOME MILLION REALLY IN DEBT FOR OVER $1
08:17:04PM TRILLION IN CREDIT CARDS.
08:17:06PM JUST THINK OF THAT INTEREST, THAT 18% OR 22% OR WHATEVER.
08:17:10PM WE ARE LOOKING AT SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE TO CONTINUE
08:17:14PM SERVING THE PUBLIC THE BEST WE CAN ON AN IDEA AND A HOPE
08:17:19PM THAT WHEN THIS ENDS, THAT IS A CIT TAX.
08:17:23PM IN 2026, IT WILL BE APPROVED SOME TIME IN '26 OR EARLY '27.
08:17:29PM WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DOESN'T?
08:17:34PM YOU HAVE FOUR ANIMALS.
08:17:36PM I CALL IT GOVERNMENT.
08:17:39PM ANIMALS, US.
08:17:43PM THE COUNTY THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS THE
08:17:47PM ANIMAL THAT CONTROLS THE BUDGET.
08:17:49PM THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE.
08:17:51PM AND THE CITY HAS HELPED THAT.
08:17:53PM AND CHAIRMAN CLENDENIN TALKED ABOUT IT.
08:17:57PM I AM ALL FOR HELPING PEOPLE IN NEED, BUT I ALSO REALIZE AS A
08:18:01PM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY, ALONG WITH THE COUNTY, THE STATE
08:18:04PM AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS MUCH MORE RESPONSIBILITY THAN
08:18:07PM THIS CITY OR ANY OTHER CITY AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST
08:18:15PM WE CAN TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM TEMPORARILY.
08:18:17PM I WAS TAUGHT MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I FIRST GOT A CREDIT CARD.
08:18:26PM HE GAVE ME SOME ADVICE.
08:18:28PM IF YOU CAN'T PAY IT AT THE END OF THE MONTH, DON'T USE IT.
08:18:32PM THAT IS WHEN I WAS IN THE HOUSING COMPLEX.
08:18:36PM IF YOU USE IT A AND PAY 22%, YOU LOSE OVER 20% OF YOUR
08:18:41PM BUYING POWER BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PAY THAT INTEREST.
08:18:44PM INCUMBENT UPON ALL OF US TO REALIZE THAT THIS CITY IS DOING
08:18:50PM ALL WE CAN AND NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE AND UNDER MAYOR IORIO
08:18:56PM THAT SHE HAD THE TOUGHEST TIME EVER AS THE LEADER OF THIS
08:18:59PM CITY BECAUSE SHE HAD TO CUT THE FORCE OF CITY EMPLOYEES BY
08:19:03PM 700 -- 714 PEOPLE, I BELIEVE.
08:19:06PM IF YOU THINK THAT WASN'T DIFFICULT, JUST THINK OF BEING THE
08:19:09PM MAYOR AND YOU ARE THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT.
08:19:11PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET ME JUST GIVE THE CITY EMPLOYEES
08:19:17PM NOW IN CASE THEY ARE LISTENING AND THINK THAT SOMETHING IS
08:19:20PM GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEIR JOB.
08:19:21PM YOUR JOBS ARE SAFE.
08:19:22PM WE WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS APPRECIATED
08:19:27PM AND NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.
08:19:29PM RIGHT NOW NOTHING TO DO -- WE ARE NOT CUTTING ANY JOBS.
08:19:33PM WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS, BUT
08:19:36PM THERE COMES A TIME, HOPEFULLY NOT, AGAIN, THAT THE -- THAT
08:19:41PM THE IORIO TEMPERAMENT OF RUNNING GOVERNMENT COULD HAPPEN AT
08:19:45PM ANY TIME.
08:19:46PM BECAUSE SHE DID A YEOMAN'S JOB IN MAKING THAT RESERVE WHAT
08:19:52PM IT IS TODAY.
08:19:54PM AND I KIND OF STUCK IN THE MIDDLE BECAUSE I WAS THERE WHEN
08:19:57PM THAT HAPPENED.
08:19:58PM AND I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS.
08:20:00PM AND, YES, 23-PLUS, BUT WHEN YOU START FOOLING WITH THAT AND
08:20:07PM GO TO BONDING AT THE SAME TIME, A LOT OF RED FLAGS GO UP.
08:20:11PM NOT TO US, BUT TO THE BONDING AGENCIES.
08:20:14PM AND THE WAY TAXES AND THE WAY INTEREST ARE AND THE WAY
08:20:19PM THINGS ARE IN THIS COUNTRY, THE MORE YOU SPEND AND THE MORE
08:20:25PM YOU DO THINGS, THE LEAST YOU ARE GOING TO GET IF YOU HAVE A
08:20:29PM BONDING SITUATION AND YOU HAVE A SITUATION WHERE IT IS NOT
08:20:35PM THE SAME INCOME YOU HAVE PERCENT WISE BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE
08:20:40PM RESERVE.
08:20:40PM I AM NOT TRYING TO BE I TOLD YOU SO.
08:20:42PM I DON'T DO THAT.
08:20:43PM BUT I AM JUST TELLING YOU, LOOK AT THE FUTURE.
08:20:45PM IF THAT IS THE TAX, CALL IT EXTENSION OF THE TAX REALLY.
08:20:51PM I SAID THAT IN 1996.
08:20:53PM AND IT'S THE ONLY ONE TO VOTE AGAINST THAT CIT TAX.
08:20:57PM YOU KNOW WHY?
08:20:59PM BECAUSE GAVE IT ALL AWAY.
08:21:03PM THAT'S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY.
08:21:04PM YOU DO THE RESEARCH.
08:21:06PM GO BACK TO '96 AND FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED.
08:21:09PM SEPTEMBER 9, 1996.
08:21:12PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:21:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:21:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:21:17PM MR. ROGERO, CAN YOU PUT THE CHART BACK UP WITH THE FUND
08:21:22PM BALANCE?
08:21:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
08:21:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONE BACK TO 2010 OR WHATEVER IT WAS --
08:21:34PM 2007.
08:21:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: 2007, YES, SIR.
08:21:37PM SO THE -- YOU SEE ON THE LEFT, IT HAS THE MILLIONS OF
08:21:45PM DOLLARS, AND THEN IT HAS THE PERCENTAGE.
08:21:47PM AND SO BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN REVENUE THIS YEAR, WHAT IS
08:21:55PM THE -- WHAT IS THE ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT WE HAVE TO PUT
08:21:57PM IN TO KEEP IT AT 23%?
08:22:02PM IS IT LIKE $10 MILLION OR $20 MILLION?
08:22:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, DO YOU HAVE --
08:22:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY -- WE DON'T NEED AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT
08:22:13PM LAST YEAR'S NUMBER WAS, WHAT, $1 30 MILLION?
08:22:18PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: $140 MILLION GOING UP TO $165 MILLION.
08:22:21PM WE WILL CALCULATE THAT.
08:22:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: ROUGHLY -- JUST TO SAY AT 1% BELOW, WE HAVE
08:22:26PM TO ADD $15 MILLION IN.
08:22:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
08:22:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW THIS IS SEMANTICS, BUT WE ARE NOT
08:22:33PM DIPPING INTO THE RESERVE FUND.
08:22:34PM IN FACT WE ARE ADDING TO THE RESERVE FUND.
08:22:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CORRECT, SIR.
08:22:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: ADDING $10 MILLION INTO THE RESERVE FUND.
08:22:42PM THE DIFFERENCE A PROPOSAL TO ADD $15 MILLION.
08:22:45PM WE ARE REDUCING THE AMOUNT WE ADD TO THE RESERVE FUND.
08:22:48PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WELL SAID.
08:22:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: DOLLAR AMOUNT IS GOING UP.
08:22:52PM THE PERCENTAGE AMOUNT IS GOING DOWN.
08:22:54PM I AM CONCERNED BECAUSE I WANT THE PERCENTAGE TO GO BACK UP.
08:22:58PM BUT CONSIDERING THE HOUSING CRISIS WE HAVE, I THINK IT IS
08:23:01PM OKAY BECAUSE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS GOING UP SUBSTANTIALLY.
08:23:04PM ADDING ANOTHER $10 MILLION IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
08:23:08PM WE HAVE TO PRESERVE THIS MONEY BECAUSE THE ONLY REAL RAINY
08:23:11PM DAY FUND IS THE 2%.
08:23:12PM LIKE $20 MILLION OR 30 MILLION WITH A BUDGET.
08:23:18PM WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DESCRIBE THAT.
08:23:20PM WE DECIDED WE DIDN'T TAKE ANYTHING OUT OF IT, WE DECIDED TO
08:23:24PM PUT LEGS IN THIS YEAR THAN WE WANTED TO.
08:23:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APPRECIATE THAT CLARIFICATION.
08:23:29PM THAT IS AN IMPORTANT POINT.
08:23:31PM NOT REDUCING IT BUT ADDING LESS THAN WE INITIALLY PLANNED.
08:23:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:23:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SUPPORT THIS MEASURE WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
08:23:41PM TAKING THIS MONEY OUT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
08:23:44PM AS FAR AS IT GOES WITH THE CIT AND THE POSSIBILITY OF THE
08:23:49PM FUTURE, WE DID THAT WITH AFT AND WE WAITED AND WE HOPED.
08:23:55PM AND NO ONE IS GOING TO SAVE US BUT US.
08:23:58PM SO -- WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY WITH WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT
08:24:02PM TODAY.
08:24:02PM WE CAN'T LOOK FORWARD.
08:24:03PM WE CAN'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.
08:24:04PM WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE TODAY AND THE
08:24:08PM COMMUNITY HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT HOUSING IS OUR NEED.
08:24:11PM SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS.
08:24:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM
08:24:16PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
08:24:16PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:24:18PM CAN WE HAVE -- SORRY, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:24:21PM SORRY ABOUT THAT.
08:24:22PM CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
08:24:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:24:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
08:24:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
08:24:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
08:24:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
08:24:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
08:24:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:24:34PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
08:24:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO, YOU HAVE ANOTHER
08:24:39PM MOTION?
08:24:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MY SECOND MOTION IS TO TAKE THE $5
08:24:43PM MILLION THAT WE ALLOCATED FOR EXPENSES AND DEDICATE IT/ADD
08:24:48PM IT TO THE HOUSING -- HOUSING INVESTMENT.
08:24:53PM >> SECOND.
08:24:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
08:24:59PM MANISCALCO.
08:24:59PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:25:01PM AND COMMENTS?
08:25:03PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
08:25:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU MAYBE WOULD WANT TO SAY I WANT TO MOVE
08:25:09PM $5 MILLION INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT WHERE IT CAME FROM.
08:25:11PM THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF DIVIDING THEM.
08:25:14PM I ALLOCATE $5 MILLION TOWARD HOUSING.
08:25:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HEAR SOMEONE REQUESTING A FRIENDLY
08:25:20PM AMENDMENT.
08:25:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL CORRECT IT.
08:25:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION.
08:25:27PM IT IS MINOR -- BUT OUR PLAN -- OUR REVISED PROPOSED BUDGET
08:25:32PM PRESENTED TO YOU WAS $5.2 MILLION FOR HOUSING.
08:25:35PM PLUS NEARLY $1.9 MILLION.
08:25:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HEARD HIM SAY THAT HE RESERVES THE RIGHT
08:25:42PM TO CHANGE HIS MOTION AS NEW FACTS BECOME AVAILABLE.
08:25:45PM SO COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESTATE YOUR
08:25:48PM MOTION.
08:25:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE
08:25:51PM SPEND THE $5 -- SORRY, WE SPEND $5.2 MILLION IN HOUSING.
08:25:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
08:25:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS
08:26:02PM ALREADY THERE.
08:26:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY.
08:26:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. ROGERO, DOES IT MAKE -- DOES IT MAKE IT
08:26:12PM A DIFFERENCE TO COUCH THAT IN THE MOTION AS A COMMITMENT?
08:26:16PM OR DOES IT NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE?
08:26:18PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NOT TO ME.
08:26:19PM WE WILL TAKE COUNCIL'S ACTION.
08:26:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT.
08:26:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APPRECIATE THAT, THANK YOU.
08:26:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM COUNCILMAN
08:26:30PM MANISCALCO.
08:26:30PM A SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:26:32PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
08:26:33PM HEARING NONE.
08:26:34PM ROLL CALL -- YOU WANT TO DISCUSS?
08:26:36PM GO AHEAD.
08:26:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL ASK A QUESTION OF HOUSING --
08:26:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TURN ON YOUR MIC.
08:26:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM SAVING MINE.
08:26:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: NEVER MIND.
08:26:50PM I WILL JUST HOLD IT.
08:26:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
08:26:53PM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
08:26:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
08:26:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
08:26:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
08:26:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:27:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
08:27:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:27:03PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
08:27:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU TOTAL IT,
08:27:16PM $12 MILLION.
08:27:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 1.9.
08:27:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: 1.7.
08:27:22PM YOU ARE CORRECT IN THE CALCULATIONS BUT NOT WHAT COUNCIL HAS
08:27:25PM APPROVED SO FAR.
08:27:26PM COUNCIL ONLY APPROVED $5.2 MILLION.
08:27:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHEN WE APPROVE THE REST OF THE BUDGET
08:27:33PM IT WILL INCLUDE THOSE NUMBERS, BUT IT WILL BE $12-PLUS
08:27:37PM MILLION DOLLARS.
08:27:38PM S THAT IT FOR ME.
08:27:40PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:27:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GETTING THERE.
08:27:46PM I AM GETTING THERE.
08:27:47PM GOOD EVENING.
08:27:50PM I WANT TO TAKE MY OPPORTUNITY TOP SPEAK -- TO RECAP SOME OF
08:27:53PM THE THINGS I HEARD TONIGHT WHICH I AGREE.
08:27:56PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA DISCUSSION THE ROLES OF GOVERNMENT.
08:27:59PM AND I REALLY WANT TO DRIVE THIS POINT HOME.
08:28:02PM THAT THE CITY, COUNTY, STATE, FEDERAL, A LOT OF THESE ISSUES
08:28:08PM -- I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE COME TO COUNCIL BECAUSE WE ARE
08:28:10PM THE MOST ACCESSIBLE GOVERNMENT.
08:28:12PM WE ARE PUBLIC FACING.
08:28:14PM SO PEOPLE CAN COME DOWN HERE AND TALK.
08:28:16PM MUCH MORE DIFFICULT -- YOU CAN'T HARDLY GET IN AT THE COUNTY
08:28:20PM COMMISSION.
08:28:20PM VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE OUR STATE CAPITOL IS IN TALLAHASSEE
08:28:24PM AND NOBODY IS GOING TO WASHINGTON TO POLITIC THIS UNLESS YOU
08:28:28PM ARE A PAID LOBBYIST.
08:28:29PM A LOT OF ISSUES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, EVEN THOUGH OUR BUDGET
08:28:34PM LOOKS HUGE, DISCRETIONARY SPENDING IS SO SMALL.
08:28:37PM EVEN THE THINGS WE DO TODAY IS BAND-AIDS.
08:28:40PM THE HOUSING CRISIS IS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN THE CITY OF TAMPA
08:28:43PM CAN ACCOMMODATE.
08:28:44PM WE CAN'T FIX IT.
08:28:45PM AND WHAT I AM VERY FEARFUL OF, I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND
08:28:49PM THERE IS STILL GOING TO BE A CRISIS.
08:28:51PM WE GET ALL THIS MONEY APPROVED.
08:28:53PM WE ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.
08:28:55PM 12 MONTHS FROM NOW.
08:28:56PM WE ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE A HOUSING CRISIS.
08:28:59PM AND MANY, MANY MORE PEOPLE WHO ARE BURDENED THAN THEY ARE
08:29:02PM TODAY 12 MONTHS FROM NOW.
08:29:04PM IT IS -- IT IS YOUR COUNTY.
08:29:06PM IT IS YOUR STATE, SPECIFICALLY.
08:29:08PM I URGE YOU AND ALL YOU WHO ARE PASSIONATE, AND I KNOW
08:29:12PM SOMEONE WHO IS STANDING AGAINST THE WALL, DOES THIS
08:29:14PM ACTIVELY.
08:29:15PM THEY GO TO TALLAHASSEE, THAT IS WHERE YOUR VOICES REALLY
08:29:19PM NEED TO BE HEARD BECAUSE THEY CONTROL THESE PURSE STRINGS.
08:29:23PM THEY ARE THE ONES THAT CAN SOLVE THIS.
08:29:25PM THE GOVERNOR CAN SOLVE THIS.
08:29:27PM THE PEOPLE ON THE DAIS CAN'T DO.
08:29:31PM WE CAN DO CRISIS INTERVENTION.
08:29:33PM SAVE THE PEOPLE FROM THE STREET.
08:29:34PM GIVE THEM TEMPORARY HOUSING.
08:29:36PM PUT A ROOF ON THE SENIOR CITIZENS HOUSE TO KEEP THEM FROM
08:29:40PM BEING HOMELESS.
08:29:41PM A BAND-AID -- NOT EVEN A BAND-AID, HOLDING MY FINGER ON A
08:29:45PM BLEEDING ARTERY AND WILL NOT GET SOLVED HERE TONIGHT DIRECT
08:29:52PM THIS AMOUNT.
08:29:53PM IT IS YOUR STATE LEGISLATOR.
08:29:56PM YOUR STATE GOVERNMENT.
08:29:57PM THEY ARE HOLDING A LOT OF MONEY DOWN THERE THAT DOESN'T
08:30:00PM FILTER DOWN TO US.
08:30:01PM THEY CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM, WE CAN'T.
08:30:05PM I AM ALL FOR CRISIS INTERVENTION.
08:30:07PM I AM THERE, I AM WITH IT.
08:30:09PM REOCCURRING.
08:30:10PM I KNOW PEOPLE TALK OF LONGER TERM COMBHIMENTS.
08:30:13PM THIS COUNCIL CAN'T DO THAT.
08:30:14PM 12 MONTHS AT A TIME.
08:30:17PM I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO HAVE A LONGER TERM.
08:30:21PM BUT WE CAN'T.
08:30:21PM AS RESPIRATORY RATIONAL, BUT PASSING A BUDGET, A 12-MONTH
08:30:27PM BUDGET.
08:30:27PM I CAN'T COMMIT FUNDS FOR 18 OR 36 MONTHS.
08:30:30PM SOMETHING I CAN'T DO WITH THIS PROCESS AND THIS BUDGET.
08:30:34PM WE NEED TO FUND ALL 30 FIRE FIGHTERS.
08:30:36PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE ARE GOING TO GET THE MONEY.
08:30:38PM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE VEHICLES COMING.
08:30:41PM AGAIN, WHEN YOU CALL 911 AND YOU ARE -- YOUR LOVED ONE'S
08:30:46PM HEART HAS STOPPED, YOU EXPECT FIRE AND RESCUE TO SHOW UP AND
08:30:51PM BRING THEM BACK TO LIFE NOR YOU.
08:30:53PM WE HAVE THE VEHICLES ON ORDER.
08:30:55PM WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE VEHICLES AND THE BUTTS IN THE
08:30:58PM SEATS OF THOSE VEHICLES SO WHEN YOU NEED THE CRISIS HELP
08:31:01PM THEY ARE THERE FOR YOU.
08:31:02PM I AM -- HONESTLY I AM AT A LOSS -- LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY.
08:31:06PM I KNOW EVERYBODY HAS TO SHARE THE PAIN.
08:31:09PM BUT SEEMS LIKE A NEED, NOT A WANT.
08:31:11PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, MY LAST LITTLE REMARKS IS MOVE $7
08:31:16PM MILLION FROM PARKING TO BE SPENT ON PAVING.
08:31:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
08:31:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:31:23PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:31:24PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
08:31:26PM ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS?
08:31:29PM ANY DISCUSSION?
08:31:30PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
08:31:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
08:31:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
08:31:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
08:31:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
08:31:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:31:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
08:31:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:31:40PM MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
08:31:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW IF THIS REQUIRES A MOTION OR
08:31:47PM CLARITY, $1.7 MILLION FOR HOUSING CREATION.
08:31:51PM AND I HAD A SIDEBAR CONVERSATION WITH SOME OF OUR CIVIC
08:31:55PM ACTIVISTS AND NICOLE TRAVIS OF THE FUNDS.
08:31:58PM I AM FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF FUNDING THAT $1.7 MILLION.
08:32:02PM BUT I DON'T WANT TO LIMIT OUR FLEXIBILITY.
08:32:04PM WE CAN POSSIBLY USE IT MAYBE EVEN MORE WITH SOME OF THE AN
08:32:08PM ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
08:32:08PM I DON'T WANT TO TIE THE HANDS OF HOUSING IN ANY WAY SO THAT
08:32:12PM OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS, WE CAN BE CREATIVE WITH THE FULL
08:32:15PM FUNDING STREAM WE ARE SENDING TO THIS DEPARTMENT.
08:32:17PM IF WE NEED MORE.
08:32:18PM LET'S SAY A HOTEL THAT WE CAN PROCURE THAT WE CAN DO SOME
08:32:22PM DEBT SERVICES, MAYBE AS ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT.
08:32:24PM YOU KNOW, FOR TEMPORARY HOUSING FOR CRISIS INTERVENTION.
08:32:28PM WHATEVER THAT IS, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IN THIS BUDGET,
08:32:31PM THAT WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF THOSE HOUSING LEADERS TO BE
08:32:35PM ABLE TO USE THOSE FUNDS THROUGHOUT THE NEXT 12 MONTHS.
08:32:39PM FOR THE BEST AND GREATEST USE OF THAT MONEY.
08:32:41PM SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT -- I KNOW IT IS IN THERE.
08:32:45PM DEBT SERVICES NEXT TO IT.
08:32:46PM BUT I WANT THE FLEXIBILITY THAT THEY CAN TAKE MORE OR LESS
08:32:50PM OUT OF THE FUNDS TO BE MORE FLEXIBILITY.
08:32:52PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
08:32:53PM THIS APPROXIMATELY $1.7 MILLION.
08:32:55PM IF COUNCIL VOTED TONIGHT TO COMMIT IT TO DEBT SERVICE, WE
08:32:59PM WILL PROVIDE IT -- WE HAVE A DRAFT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
08:33:02PM PROGRAM FOR THAT PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
08:33:03PM IF COUNCIL IS NOT READY TO DO THAT TONIGHT, THEY CAN SIMPLY
08:33:06PM ADOPT THE $1.658 MILLION.
08:33:10PM AND WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU FOR A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
08:33:14PM PROGRAM BASED ON THE FLEXIBILITY THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT AND
08:33:17PM ANY OTHER TIME FRAMES, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT -- THAT YOU OR
08:33:22PM HOUSING LEADERSHIP MAY HAVE.
08:33:23PM BUT WHAT IS ON THE TABLE IS THE --
08:33:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE THE $1.658 MILLION FOR HOUSING.
08:33:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
08:33:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY CAN COME BACK TO US WITH A CAPITAL
08:33:35PM IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
08:33:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:33:38PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:33:40PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:33:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I TOTALLY DISAGREE ON THAT.
08:33:44PM THIS IS WHAT THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT HAS ASKED FOR.
08:33:47PM MISS TRAVIS, CAN YOU COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT THIS AND YOUR
08:33:50PM GOAL FOR THIS?
08:33:54PM BECAUSE I -- WE HAVE THE $5.2 MILLION THAT WE JUST PUT IN,
08:34:00PM BUT WE ARE FOCUSED ON THIS $1.6 MILLION.
08:34:03PM I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO TALK TO HER ABOUT
08:34:06PM WHEN IT IS MY TURN.
08:34:09PM I DON'T WANT TO SAY TOO MUCH, BUT I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT NOT
08:34:14PM PUTTING THIS TOWARD BONDING NICOLE NICK GOOD EVENING,
08:34:17PM COUNCIL.
08:34:17PM NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND.
08:34:22PM FOR THE POINT OF NOT RESTRICTING THE FUNDS.
08:34:26PM WHAT MR. ROGERO PUT ON THE ELMO FOR YOU.
08:34:30PM WE USE THE LANGUAGE HOUSING CREATION AND PRESERVATION SO WE
08:34:39PM HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AND LATITUDE TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE
08:34:42PM TALKING ABOUT.
08:34:43PM SO IT DOESN'T SAY ONLY FOR PURCHASING LAND, BUT GIVES US THE
08:34:49PM ABILITY TO PARTNER WITH DEVELOPERS IF THERE IS A HOLD TO BE
08:34:53PM PLACED SIMILAR TO PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU APPROVED.
08:34:55PM SO THAT FLEXIBILITY IS THERE WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT IS
08:34:59PM PROVIDED.
08:35:00PM WE WORKED WITH MR. ROGERO ON THAT.
08:35:03PM REGARDING COMING BACK, WE HAVE DONE -- FULL DISCLOSURE, WE
08:35:10PM HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF COUNCIL FOR THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF
08:35:14PM AND WE HAVE DONE THE WORK AND WE KNOW HOW WE WILL SPEND THE
08:35:16PM MONEY.
08:35:16PM WE KNOW WHICH PROGRAMS -- WHICH PROGRAMS WE WOULD DOUBLE THE
08:35:20PM REVENUE FOR.
08:35:21PM SO WE KNOW THAT TONIGHT.
08:35:23PM SO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IF THAT -- YOU KNOW, WHETHER WE NEED
08:35:27PM TO COME BACK OR NOT, I CAN TELL YOU TONIGHT HOW WE ARE GOING
08:35:30PM TO SPEND THE MONEY.
08:35:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN CLARIFY, OF COURSE, WE ALWAYS HAVE
08:35:37PM TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO ISSUE ANY DEBT SERVICE.
08:35:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY
08:35:45PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN -- I GUESS -- THIS IS YOU -- NEVER
08:35:49PM MIND.
08:35:49PM DISREGARD.
08:35:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:35:51PM THANK YOU, GUIDO.
08:35:54PM WE HAVE A MOTION -- WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FROM
08:35:56PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:35:57PM WHO WAS THE SECOND?
08:35:59PM SECOND WAS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
08:36:00PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
08:36:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
08:36:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
08:36:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
08:36:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:36:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
08:36:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
08:36:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:36:13PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HENDERSON AND HURTAK VOTING NO.
08:36:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:36:19PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
08:36:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DEFER BACK TO THE CHAIR.
08:36:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
08:36:24PM YES, MA'AM, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:36:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
08:36:27PM I AM SORRY, MISS TRAVIS, YOU WENT THAT FAR BACK, BECAUSE I
08:36:31PM AM GOING TO HAVE YOU COME BACK.
08:36:32PM BECAUSE I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS CRITICAL TO
08:36:37PM REMEMBER IS THAT WE STILL HAVE -- WE DO HAVE A HOUSING
08:36:40PM CRISIS.
08:36:41PM AND YOU KNOW, TO MY -- YOU KNOW, TO MY COLLEAGUE'S POINT, WE
08:36:46PM ARE NOT GOING TO SOLVE ANYTHING.
08:36:48PM GUESS WHAT ELSE WE ARE NOT GOING TO SOLVE, NOT GOING TO
08:36:51PM SOLVE PAVING.
08:36:52PM WE ARE NEVER GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO SOLVE IT ALL.
08:36:55PM IT WILL BE LOVELY TOO BUT SHOULDN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T
08:36:58PM CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR IT AND ARGUE FOR IT.
08:37:00PM AND I PULLED A MESS OF ITEMS ON THURSDAY SO THAT WE CAN
08:37:05PM ACTUALLY TALK VERY MUCH AT THAT.
08:37:07PM AND THURSDAY IS TALKING ABOUT ALLOCATING A LOT OF THESE
08:37:11PM FUNDS TOWARD -- SORRY, I WANT TO USE MY REGULAR WORLD
08:37:21PM -- NGOs.
08:37:21PM NONGOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS.
08:37:23PM WE CALL THEM NONPROFIT IN THE U.S. OR IN THE NONFEDERAL
08:37:27PM SIDE.
08:37:27PM BUT THE NONPROFITS THAT ARE DOING THE WORK OF KEEPING PEOPLE
08:37:30PM OUT OF HOMELESSNESS AND ALL OF THIS WORK.
08:37:34PM BUT WE ARE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO THIS.
08:37:36PM AND FOR MY UNDERSTANDING, HALF OF THAT MONEY IS SIMPLY GOING
08:37:41PM TO MUTT PEOPLE IN HOTELS UNTIL WE CAN FIND THEM PERMANENT
08:37:45PM HOUSING.
08:37:46PM THAT'S CORRECT?
08:37:50PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.
08:37:51PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS HALF, BUT A GREAT PORTION OF THE MONEY
08:37:53PM ON YOUR AGENDA FOR THURSDAY GOINGS DIRECTLY FOR TEMPORARY
08:37:56PM HOUSING.
08:37:57PM AND IT IS -- IT IS RAPID REHOUSING AND TO MAKE SURE THAT
08:38:01PM PEOPLE ARE HOUSING STABLE.
08:38:02PM SO, YES, THAT MONEY GOES DIRECTLY TO PARTNERS LIKE SALVATION
08:38:07PM ARMY WHERE WE PAY FOR A BED.
08:38:08PM THAT IS NOT OUR -- ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU PULLED, BUT
08:38:12PM SALVATION ARMY BEDS AND HOTEL ROOMS, YES.
08:38:15PM THAT IS WHERE THAT MONEY GOES.
08:38:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF WE PUT THIS MONEY TOWARD BUYING A HOTEL OR
08:38:20PM HOTELS, WE WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY TO DONATE -- TO ACTUALLY
08:38:27PM HELP PEOPLE IN PLACES.
08:38:28PM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH AWAY FROM THURSDAY, BUT I
08:38:31PM REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO
08:38:34PM WITH THAT BONDING CAPACITY.
08:38:35PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.
08:38:37PM YOU TWO HAVE MORE MONEY TO HELP MORE HOUSEHOLDS, MORE
08:38:42PM PEOPLE, AND BY -- BY ADDING SUPPLY TO THE INVENTORY BECAUSE
08:38:47PM YOU DON'T HAVE THE SUPPLY RIGHT NOW.
08:38:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
08:38:50PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
08:38:51PM I KNOW THAT WE SUPPOSEDLY CAN'T SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO
08:38:58PM PROMISE $10 MILLION TO HOUSING EACH YEAR, BUT I WILL SAY
08:39:02PM THAT I WILL PROMISE $10 MILLION TO HOUSING EVERY YEAR.
08:39:06PM IF NOBODY ELSE WILL SAY IT.
08:39:08PM IF OTHER PEOPLE WANT TO SAY WE DO IT YEAR BY YEAR, I
08:39:11PM UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT FOR ME, A PROMISE $10 MILLION A YEAR TO
08:39:16PM GET STUFF DONE.
08:39:17PM AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
08:39:18PM I AM GOING TO MOVE ON TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
08:39:26PM I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT $8 MILLION FROM CIT SHOULD GO TO THE
08:39:33PM FIRE STATION THIS YEAR.
08:39:34PM I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO PUT $8 MILLION
08:39:38PM FROM CIT INTO FIRE STATION 24 AND CONTINUE TO UPDATE THE CIP
08:39:43PM FOR FIRE STATION 24 FROM BUILDING IN FY '26 TO BUILDING
08:39:51PM IN FY '24.
08:39:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
08:39:55PM HURTAK.
08:39:55PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:39:56PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
08:39:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:39:59PM LET ME REQUEST A QUESTION ON THE MOTION, IF I MAY.
08:40:03PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IF YOU WANT TO ANSWER, YOU MAY.
08:40:06PM THERE I GO AGAIN.
08:40:07PM SORRY.
08:40:08PM THAT $8 MILLION OF CIT FUNDING, WHERE IS IT GOING RIGHT NOW?
08:40:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GOING TO VEHICLES.
08:40:14PM THAT IS WHAT I ASKED CHIEF TRIPP -- SORRY, I SWALLOWED --
08:40:20PM SHE SAID THE FIRE STATION.
08:40:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: GOING FOR VEHICLES FOR POLICE OFFICERS?
08:40:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, FOR FIRE.
08:40:26PM $16 MILLION CIT.
08:40:28PM $8 MILLION TO FIRE.
08:40:29PM $8 MILLION TO POLICE.
08:40:31PM $8 MILLION THAT GOES TO FIRE.
08:40:34PM SHE SAID SHE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE IT GO TOWARD A STATION.
08:40:38PM SO I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT AND THEN PUSH IT.
08:40:42PM WE SHOULD PUSH IT AND HAVE THEM COME UP EVERY MONTH AND TELL
08:40:47PM THEM WHERE THEY ARE ON MOVING THIS FORWARD.
08:40:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME IF I MAY INQUIRE WITH CHIEF TRIPP OR
08:40:54PM CHIEF BENNETT -- I DON'T KNOW IF CHIEF TRIPP IS HERE.
08:40:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK AS WELL, SIR?
08:41:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE ON THIS -- I LIKE
08:41:04PM MR. STOCCO'S INPUT ON THIS TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION WITH
08:41:07PM THIS.
08:41:08PM WITH THE FIRE STATION, AND OBVIOUSLY I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING
08:41:11PM FOR THIS FOR TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS IN ONE FORM OR
08:41:15PM ANOTHER.
08:41:15PM GOT STATION 25.
08:41:16PM STATION 24, WHICH IS -- IF WE ARE GOING TO FUND $8 MILLION
08:41:22PM THIS YEAR TO A STATION AND YET WE DON'T HAVE DESIGN AND TAKE
08:41:25PM ANYWHERE FROM A CONSERVATIVE SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS TO 12
08:41:29PM MONTHS TO FINISH THE DESIGN TO DO SHOVEL-READY PROJECTS AND
08:41:32PM COME IN OCTOBER AND GET THE -- THE VEHICLES AND THEN COME IN
08:41:36PM OCTOBER AND TALK ABOUT BONDING FOR THIS STATION.
08:41:39PM WE CAN GET THE BEST OF WORLDS, RIGHT.
08:41:43PM AND NOT DEDICATE $8 MILLION TO A STATION WHERE WE ARE NOT
08:41:46PM GOING TO HAVE THE SHOVELS OUT THERE FOR SEVEN, EIGHT OR 12
08:41:51PM MONTHS.
08:41:51PM AGAIN, THAT IS MY RECKONING.
08:41:53PM I AM NOT A PUBLIC SAFETY EXPERT OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
08:41:56PM I WANT TO CHECK WITH CHIEF TRIPP ON THAT.
08:41:59PM WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON THAT.
08:42:01PM MISS DUNCAN, CHIEF BENNETT, MR. STOCCO.
08:42:05PM AGAIN, I NEED GUIDANCE ON THIS ISSUE.
08:42:07PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF.
08:42:10PM THE QUESTION WAS ASKED FOR ME FOR ONE YEAR.
08:42:13PM I JUST CONFIRMED.
08:42:15PM RATHER HAVE A FIRE STATION OR ENGINE.
08:42:18PM MY CHOICE IN ONE YEAR, I WILL TAKE A FIRE STATION.
08:42:22PM THAT WAS THE QUESTION ASKED OF ME.
08:42:24PM I AM NOT PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
08:42:26PM I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES.
08:42:27PM I KNOW IT IS A PROCESS.
08:42:28PM BUT THE QUESTION WAS ASKED FOR KNEE, WOULD I TAKE A FIRE
08:42:31PM STATION OVER THAT $8 MILLION OR APPARATUS AND THAT IS WHY I
08:42:36PM CHOSE THE FIRE STATION.
08:42:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION AND CHOSE THE
08:42:39PM TERM "FIRE STATION."
08:42:41PM DID YOU BELIEVE THAT IT MEANT FIRE STATION, BAM, IT IS HERE
08:42:45PM RIGHT NOW OR HAVE TO WAIT SEVEN OR 12 MONTHS.
08:42:48PM I WANT TO FIND OUT -- I WANT TO ASCERTAIN WHAT YOUR INTENT
08:42:52PM AND RATIONALE IS.
08:42:54PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: ONCE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CONSTRUCTION.
08:42:58PM PERMITTING.
08:42:59PM A LOT OF PROCESS THAT GOES INTO BUILDING A STATION.
08:43:02PM WE DO HAVE AN AREA.
08:43:03PM CERTAIN THINGS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS HOW
08:43:07PM LONG IT TAKES.
08:43:08PM I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
08:43:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO -- AND IF I MAY, WHAT I WANT TO FIND OUT --
08:43:14PM BECAUSE AGAIN, I DEFER A LOT TO THE FIRE CHIEF, WHICH IS --
08:43:18PM WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THAT $8 MILLION TO SET ASIDE FOR A
08:43:22PM STATION THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE SHOVEL-READY FOR
08:43:25PM ANYWHERE FROM -- FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, I AM NOT AN EXPERT
08:43:30PM FROM SEVEN TO 12 MONTHS OR HAVE THAT MONEY THIS YEAR FOR
08:43:33PM FIRE VEHICLES?
08:43:34PM THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO FIND OUT.
08:43:36PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS.
08:43:38PM ONCE AGAIN THE QUESTION WAS ASKED.
08:43:40PM WHICH ONE WOULD I RATHER HAVE.
08:43:42PM EITHER WAY, I AM NOT GOING TO GET A FIRE TRUCK, NEITHER.
08:43:46PM THE FIRE TRUCK WILL NOT GET --
08:43:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: A GREAT POINT.
08:43:49PM THANK YOU.
08:43:50PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GIVE ME A CHOICE OF WHICH ONE TO TAKE FIRST.
08:43:55PM DEFINITELY WILL TAKE THE STATION.
08:43:57PM THE FIRE TRUCK -- THERE IS A WAIT.
08:43:59PM WHY I CONFIRMED FOR ONE YEAR.
08:44:01PM ONCE AGAIN I DON'T KNOW THE PROCESS.
08:44:03PM I AM NOT -- THAT IS NOT MY EXPERTISE AS FAR AS THE PROCESS
08:44:08PM OF GETTING ALL THAT DONE.
08:44:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
08:44:10PM AND I THINK, IF I MAY, COUNCILMEMBERS ARE
08:44:14PM LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON THIS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO
08:44:18PM THE RIGHT THING, BUT WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE FACTS ARE
08:44:22PM BEFORE US AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR HERE.
08:44:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN INTERJECT FROM A FUNDING
08:44:31PM PERSPECTIVE.
08:44:31PM MY JOB TO TELL YOU THE RISKS.
08:44:34PM IF YOU COMMIT AN AMOUNT OF MONEY, $8 MILLION OF COMMUNITY
08:44:38PM INVESTMENT TAX FOR A PROJECT THAT CANNOT MOVE FORWARD, YOU
08:44:42PM HAVE THAT FUNDING SITTING IN ABEYANCE AND THAT FUNDING IS
08:44:44PM LOSING VALUE AS INFLATION EATS INTO IT.
08:44:47PM SO IF -- IF COUNCIL WERE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, I WOULD
08:44:51PM SUGGEST YOU GET SOME ASSURANCES THAT THAT FUNDING WILL
08:44:54PM ACTUALLY BE SPENT WITHIN A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME.
08:44:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
08:45:02PM WHAT I WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT ARE WE LOSING FROM THE $8
08:45:06PM MILLION SPECIFICALLY.
08:45:07PM CAN YOU INFORM US ON THAT?
08:45:09PM WHAT WILL YOU BE LOSING WITH THE $8 MILLION.
08:45:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SORRY, LOSE SOMETHING IN.
08:45:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: $8 MILLION FROM VEHICLES.
08:45:17PM CHIEF BENNETT, INCLUDE THE VEHICLE FROM K-BAR RANCH, FOR
08:45:22PM EXAMPLE?
08:45:22PM $8 MILLION IS A LOT OF MONEY AND WE NEED TO BE BRIEFED WHAT
08:45:26PM THAT THIS IS.
08:45:27PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
08:45:31PM THANK YOU FOR THESE QUESTIONS.
08:45:33PM THEY ARE IMPORTANT IN MOVING THE FIRE FORWARD.
08:45:37PM RESCUE CARS HAVE BEEN ORDERED AND WILL FILL THE OPERATIONAL
08:45:42PM NEEDS IN THE FIVE RESCUE AREAS.
08:45:46PM THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FOR FIRE
08:45:50PM AND THERE IS A -- THERE IS A TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH ORDER
08:45:55PM CAN OR RECEIVING.
08:45:56PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS USED TO GET THAT STARTED
08:45:58PM BEFORE IT ACTUALLY ARRIVES.
08:45:59PM I WOULD THINK THAT THE MONEY FOR THE VEHICLES KNOWING THAT
08:46:03PM WE HAVE THE DESIGN MONEY AND THE PERMITTING MONEY IN THE CIP
08:46:07PM FOR '24 FOR THAT TIMELINE, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD BALANCE.
08:46:10PM AND I WILL SAY SINCE -- SINCE YOU ARE THE CHAIR OF THE
08:46:14PM PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, I WAS JUST TALKING OFFLINE TO THE
08:46:17PM MAYOR KNOWING HOW MUCH ALL YOU HAVE COUNCIL SUPPORTS FIRE
08:46:21PM RESCUE AND GETTING THOSE FRONT-LINE PARAMEDIC AND FIRE
08:46:25PM FIGHTERS IN PLACE AND I SIDEBARED WITH CHIEF TRIPP.
08:46:28PM IS THAT WE ARE COMMITTED WHEN THOSE FIRE RESCUE VEHICLES GET
08:46:32PM IN PLACE, THAT WE WILL LOOK WHETHER IT IS THE FIRST QUARTER
08:46:36PM OR BETWEEN THE FIRST QUARTER AND SECOND QUARTER OF FY '24 TO
08:46:41PM FIND A WAY TO FUND THOSE OTHER 12 FIRE FIGHTER PARAMEDIC TO
08:46:45PM GET THE FULL 30.
08:46:46PM WE WILL WORK ON THAT AS WE GO.
08:46:48PM BUT UNTIL THE RESCUE CARS COME IN, THERE IS REALLY NOT AN
08:46:51PM OPERATIONAL COMPONENT TO THAT BEYOND THE 18 THAT WE WILL
08:46:56PM START WITH.
08:46:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: ANOTHER QUESTION, IF I MAY.
08:46:59PM PART OF THAT $8 MILLION WILL FUND TRUCKS THAT HAVE ALREADY
08:47:02PM BEEN ORDERED?
08:47:05PM >>JOHN BENNETT: NOT HAVING THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT FUND IN
08:47:08PM FRONT OF ME.
08:47:09PM I AM SAYING THAT $8 MILLION MAY BE GOING TO REPLACE THE
08:47:13PM VEHICLES OUT OF THEIR EXPECTED LIFE.
08:47:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO KNOW SPECIFICITY WHAT WE ARE GIVING
08:47:20PM UP FOR THIS.
08:47:21PM THAT'S ALL I WANT.
08:47:24PM AM I MISSING ANYTHING?
08:47:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO IS -- THIS GIVES US A
08:47:34PM VERY PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE IT UP TO BOTH FIRE RESCUE
08:47:43PM AND THE PUBLIC NOT GETTING THAT STATION STARTED IN '2 IS
08:47:49PM WHERE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
08:47:51PM THIS IS COMMITMENT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN AS A COUNCIL TO
08:47:54PM WORK VERY HART CAN CONTRACT SERVICES, WITH PURCHASING,
08:47:57PM WHOEVER WE HAVE TO, TO SPEED THIS UP, GET THIS DONE AS
08:48:00PM QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, AND GET A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND BEFORE
08:48:03PM THE END OF THE YEAR.
08:48:06PM I DON'T DISAGREE, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THE THINGS WE
08:48:09PM BOND, BUT IN THIS CASE SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE TO.
08:48:12PM WE CAN BOND SOME OF IT.
08:48:13PM AND SOME OF IT IS BETTER THAN ALL OF IT.
08:48:16PM AS WE ARE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT BONDING.
08:48:19PM FOR ONE YEAR, CHIEF TRIPP, THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD POINT.
08:48:22PM SHE IS NOT GOING TO SEE THE FIRE TRUCK THIS YEAR ANYWAY.
08:48:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: A GREAT POINT.
08:48:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO ME MORE OF A COMMITMENT THING.
08:48:30PM TO ME THE COMMITMENT IS TO GIVE THEM THE MONEY AND ALSO THE
08:48:33PM PROMISE THAT WE WILL FOLLOW UP AND GIVE IT THE SPEED THAT
08:48:37PM PROJECTS -- THAT THIS COUNCIL -- THIS CITY WANTS TO DO GETS.
08:48:41PM WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO DO SOMETHING IN THE CITY, IT HAPPENS
08:48:44PM FAST.
08:48:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: SURE, MAY I --
08:48:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
08:48:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILWOMAN.
08:48:52PM I WANT TO AGAIN REITERATE THIS BECAUSE A NARRATIVE FORMED ON
08:48:56PM 24.
08:48:56PM IN 2021, A SPECIFIC DECISION WAS MADE TO MOVE FOR FIRE
08:49:01PM STATION 25 IN SULPHUR SPRINGS OPPOSED TO 24.
08:49:07PM THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MADE SPECIFICALLY.
08:49:09PM I WANT TO KNOW THAT FOLKS KNOW THAT.
08:49:10PM COULD THERE BE A COMPROMISE OF THIS?
08:49:13PM IF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING WHERE WE
08:49:16PM HAVE MONEY THAT SHOWS THAT WE -- I DON'T RECALL -- I THINK
08:49:20PM MISS -- KEELA SAID PUT A RING ON IT.
08:49:25PM HAVE FUNDS TO PUT AT THAT RING ON IT.
08:49:28PM BURR DON'T GIVE UP ALL THE FUNDING FOR THE OTHER VEHICLES.
08:49:32PM MAYBE DO 50/50.
08:49:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE, I AM OPEN TO THAT.
08:49:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: MEDIATOR.
08:49:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR ME IT IS THE PROMISE AND FOCUS THAT WE
08:49:41PM ARE GOING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD FOR THE PEOPLE AND THE FIRE
08:49:44PM FIGHTERS WHO WE OWE THIS TOO AT THIS POINT.
08:49:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, AND THANK YOU
08:49:50PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, AGAIN, FOR YOUR, YOU KNOW, CHAMPIONING
08:49:54PM OF THIS ISSUE AS WELL, AND THAT IS MUCH APPRECIATED BY ALL
08:49:58PM OF COUNCIL AND I KNOW ALL OF OUR FRIENDS IN FIRE, ETC.
08:50:01PM SO HOW CAN WE WORK ON THAT WITH SOME SORT OF A SPLIT?
08:50:05PM IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN WHERE WE CAN GET THAT
08:50:09PM DONE WITH THE VEHICLES, LOOK AT A SPLIT TWO-TO-ONE, 50/50,
08:50:14PM WHATEVER.
08:50:14PM TO HAVE THAT SYMBOLIC MONEY PUT DOWN SO WE HAVE SKIN IN THE
08:50:20PM GAME.
08:50:20PM THAT SPA GOOD COMPROMISE.
08:50:22PM NOBODY WANTS TO VOTE AGAINST ANYTHING THAT PUSHES FORWARD
08:50:25PM POLICE AND FIRE BECAUSE WE ALL SUPPORT THAT.
08:50:27PM WE ALL WANT TO BE ONLY THE PAYMENT PAGE.
08:50:31PM WE CAN DO THAT.
08:50:32PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF -- OH, GO
08:50:36PM AHEAD.
08:50:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
08:50:38PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, CLENDENIN AND THEN MIRANDA.
08:50:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
08:50:44PM FOR ME MORE OF PRACTICALITY.
08:50:46PM ADMINISTRATOR DUNCAN IS HERE.
08:50:48PM IN OUR PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS, SHE CAME TO THE PODIUM LAST
08:50:53PM WEEK I BELIEVE IT WAS AND THE QUESTION WAS ASKED OF HER, HOW
08:50:57PM LONG DOES IT TAKE TO BUILD.
08:50:59PM SO TO COMMIT $8 MILLION KNOWING WHAT SHE SAID IN TERMS OF
08:51:04PM DESIGN-BUILD, SIX TO EIGHT -- I MEAN SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.
08:51:08PM HAND THIS WILL BE FAST.
08:51:11PM CAN YOU RESPOND TO THAT.
08:51:12PM JUST THE REALITY OF IT IS -- YES, GOOD WILL TO SAY FIRE, WE
08:51:16PM ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU $8 MILLION THIS YEAR TO MAKE THAT
08:51:19PM COMMITMENT TO YOU.
08:51:20PM I THINK THAT -- IN ALL HONESTY, WE SHOULD TAKE THE FUNDS WE
08:51:29PM HAVE WITH REGARDS FOR THIS $8 MILLION AND DO EXACTLY WHAT WE
08:51:32PM CAN WITH IT.
08:51:33PM IF THAT IS WAITING -- IT COULD EASILY GO TO HOUSING RIGHT
08:51:38PM NOW IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY,
08:51:41PM VERSUS JUST SITTING IN RESERVES WAITING FOR DECISIONS TO BE
08:51:47PM MADE, BECAUSE IMPLEMENTATION WILL TAKE A WHOLE LOT LONGER.
08:51:51PM WE HAVE ALREADY COMMITTED TO BUILDING A FIRE STATION, BUT I
08:51:55PM DON'T THINK THIS IS THE BEST WAY IN TERMS OF JUST TAKING
08:51:58PM THOSE PARTICULAR $8 MILLION JUST TO MAKE, YOU KNOW, THE MEN
08:52:02PM AND WOMEN OF FIRE FEEL GOOD BECAUSE WE HAVE SAID, YES, WE
08:52:06PM WILL PUT THIS $8 MILLION HERE KNOWING THAT YOU CAN NOT BUILD
08:52:09PM A FIRE STATION WITHIN THE YEAR OR TWO.
08:52:11PM IT IS JUST NOT POSSIBLE.
08:52:13PM IT IS NOT PRACTICAL.
08:52:14PM NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT IT.
08:52:16PM I BELIEVE MISS DUNCAN CAN TESTIFY TO THAT.
08:52:18PM ALSO, IN TERMS OF THE VEHICLES BEING ORDERED.
08:52:23PM CHIEF TRIPP CAME TO US WITH HER PRESENTATION SAYING THAT
08:52:26PM THERE IS A BACKLOG WITH 8 MILLION.
08:52:30PM EVEN WITH THE $8 MILLION IN VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, MAKING AN
08:52:34PM INVOICE FOR THAT IS PRACTICAL, BECAUSE AT LEAST YOU ARE
08:52:37PM GETTING IN LINE FOR THOSE VEHICLES TO COME.
08:52:38PM AND THAT STILL TAKES -- HOW MUCH TIME DID YOU SAY IT WAS
08:52:44PM WITH REGARDS TO THAT, CHIEF TRIPP, YOU ALREADY PRESENTED
08:52:47PM THAT BEFORE OF THE WAIT TIME FOR EVEN GETTING VEHICLES WAS
08:52:51PM WHAT --
08:52:52PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: DEPENDS IF AN AGENT OR ALS TRANSPORT.
08:52:57PM ALS 18 TO 24 MONTHS.
08:53:00PM ENGINE BETWEEN 12 AND 18 MONTHS.
08:53:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH.
08:53:03PM SO I CAN SEE FOR THAT BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING IN LINE FOR IT.
08:53:06PM BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN ALLOCATE FUNDING FOR STATION 24 ANOTHER
08:53:11PM WAY.
08:53:12PM AND MAKE THAT COMMITMENT IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE THE
08:53:16PM DESIGN-BUILD, I BELIEVE, WE HAVE THE MILLION -- WE HAVE THE
08:53:20PM MONEY THERE RIGHT FOR THE DESIGN-BUILD RIGHT NOW.
08:53:23PM THAT IS THE THING WE CAN COMMIT TO IS GETTING STARTED IN
08:53:26PM THAT PROCESS.
08:53:27PM THAT FUNDING, THAT $8 MILLION DOESN'T HAVE TO SIT AND WAIT
08:53:32PM JUST TO MAKE FIREMEN AND WOMEN FEEL GOOD BECAUSE STILL WILL
08:53:35PM NOT HAPPEN FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
08:53:38PM WE CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING FAST.
08:53:40PM I WANT TO SAY THIS AND A LITTLE SIDEBAR.
08:53:43PM THE FAIR OAKS PROJECT, THAT STARTED IN 2020.
08:53:48PM IT STARTED IN 2020 WITH THE FIRST MOTION BEING MADE.
08:53:53PM AND THE DESIGN CONCEPT WAS BROUGHT TO THE COMMUNITY.
08:53:57PM YOU ALL KNOW THAT BECAUSE OF ALL THE CONVERSATION AROUND IT.
08:53:59PM THAT DESIGN CAME US TO JUST A FEW -- WITHIN THE PAST FEW
08:54:05PM WEEKS.
08:54:05PM AND WE ARE IN SEPTEMBER 2023.
08:54:07PM SO I WANT TO MAKE IT A REALITY FOR YOU THAT IT IS JUST NOT
08:54:11PM GOING TO HAPPEN AS FAST AS COUNCIL WOULD LIKE IT TO.
08:54:15PM AND I AM JUST BEING PRACTICAL ON THAT.
08:54:17PM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
08:54:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:54:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, MISS
08:54:24PM DUNCAN.
08:54:25PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: NO, I WANTED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION IF IT WAS
08:54:27PM A QUESTION.
08:54:28PM IF I COULD JUST ADD, I THINK THE DILEMMA OF THE $8 MILLION
08:54:33PM IF THE CFO OR BUDGET OFFICER CAN SPEAK TO THAT.
08:54:37PM WE HAVE A PLAN FOR FIRE STATION 24.
08:54:39PM IT INCLUDES DESIGN MONIES IN FY '24.
08:54:43PM TYPICALLY WITH ANY CAPITAL PROJECT, TYPICALLY IF IT HAS A
08:54:47PM VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION, WE LAY OUT THE ACQUISITION OF THE
08:54:51PM PROPERTY INCLUDING THE SITE THE ANALYSIS, THE DESIGN AND THE
08:54:54PM CONSTRUCTION PHASING WITHIN OUR FIVE-YEAR PLANNING THAT WE
08:54:57PM DO.
08:54:57PM SO I THINK THEY CAN SPEAK TO WHERE EXACTLY, WHEN EXACTLY
08:55:02PM THOSE FUNDS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR CONSTRUCTION.
08:55:06PM WE WOULD -- IN THIS FIRST TIME -- STARTING THE DESIGN.
08:55:11PM MAKE THE DECISION WHETHER TO DO DESIGN BID BUILD OR
08:55:15PM DESIGN-BUILD.
08:55:16PM THOSE ARE DETAILS WE WILL BE ASSESSING WHEN WE START THE
08:55:19PM PROJECT, BUT AS FAR AS WHERE THE MONEY NEEDS TO BE IN THE
08:55:22PM PROJECT, THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT CFO COULD EXPLAIN.
08:55:26PM ALSO JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS STATION WILL COST MORE THAN $8
08:55:31PM MILLION.
08:55:31PM PART OF THE DESIGN WILL BE DEVELOPING AND MORE ACCURATE COST
08:55:35PM ESTIMATES TO KNOW EXACTLY THE AMOUNT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO
08:55:38PM FUND THE CONSTRUCTION.
08:55:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
08:55:43PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: CFO, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, I WAS GOING TO ASK
08:55:48PM IF YOU COULD SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL THE LOGISTICS WHEN WE
08:55:52PM PLACE THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A
08:55:54PM CONSTRUCTION COMMITMENT AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
08:55:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CERTAINLY.
08:55:59PM IF II CAN HAVE THE ELMO.
08:56:06PM AGAIN, WE SAW THE SCHEDULE EARLIER AND ASSUMING THAT COUNCIL
08:56:11PM WANTS TO GO THROUGH THIS PROJECT WITH THE USE OF DEBT
08:56:14PM FUNDING.
08:56:14PM WE WILL TIME THE DEBT FUNDING TO MAXIMIZE -- ACTUALLY
08:56:18PM MINIMIZE THE AMOUNT OF TIME SITTING ON MONEY.
08:56:21PM THE ONE THING I HATE IS SITTING ON MONEY.
08:56:23PM WE WANT TO SPEND IT BECAUSE EVERY DAY THAT GOES BY, WE LOSE
08:56:27PM MONEY.
08:56:27PM BORROWS MONEY, EVERY DAY THAT GOES BY WE NEED TO PAY
08:56:31PM INTEREST ON IT.
08:56:32PM THIS SCHEDULE.
08:56:32PM I REFER TO CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND MISS DUNCAN IF THAT
08:56:39PM SCHEDULE CAN BE ACCELERATED OR NOT.
08:56:41PM THAT IS NOT MY EXPERTISE.
08:56:43PM WE SEE WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
08:56:44PM PARDON ME.
08:56:45PM AND IT BY THE TIME THE BULK OF THE EXPENSE COMES, WELL AHEAD
08:56:52PM OF TIME BRING THE COUNCIL REIMBURSEMENT TO START SPENDING
08:56:57PM MONEY SO WE CAN GET PAID BACK BUT WILL GIVE YOU THE DEBT
08:57:01PM SERVICE APPROVAL DOCUMENTS.
08:57:03PM DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
08:57:05PM WE WOULDN'T GO OUT AND GET DEBT TOMORROW, BECAUSE WE
08:57:09PM WOULDN'T BE SPENDING THAT MONEY ACCORDING THIS SCHEDULED FOR
08:57:12PM SOME TIME.
08:57:12PM WE WANT TO TIME IT TO WE DON'T HAVE THAT INTEREST PAYMENT
08:57:15PM FOR LONGER THAN IS NECESSARY.
08:57:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOT PRACTICAL IF I CAN SAY -- NOT
08:57:20PM PRACTICAL TO PUT THE $8 MILLION IN FIRE STATION 24 WOULD YOU
08:57:25PM SAY THAT FROM A FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE AS A FINANCIAL
08:57:28PM OFFICER?
08:57:28PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: BASED ON THIS SCHEDULE, YES, THAT FUNDING
08:57:31PM WILL BE SITTING IN ABEYANCE AND LOSING VALUE.
08:57:35PM AGAIN, WHAT I KNOW -- WHAT I KNOW WHAT WOULD SURFACE WAS THE
08:57:40PM TIMING ASSOCIATED WITH VEHICLE PURCHASE AND THE PAYMENT
08:57:43PM THERE.
08:57:43PM IF THE VEHICLE PURCHASES ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE PLACE ANY
08:57:46PM SOONER THAN YOU HAVE THE FUNDING BEING HELD IN ABEYANCE
08:57:50PM EITHER WAY.
08:57:50PM MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE VEHICLE PURCHASE PROCESS IS
08:57:54PM FASTER.
08:57:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ONE OTHER QUESTION, CHIEF TRIPP.
08:57:58PM WHEN YOU ORDER THE VEHICLES, DO YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM IN
08:58:01PM ADVANCE?
08:58:02PM I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
08:58:03PM DO YOU PAY IN ADVANCE AND WAIT 18 TO 24 MONTHS.
08:58:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DO YOU KNOW?
08:58:09PM BUDGET OFFICER KNOWS.
08:58:11PM >>MIKE PERRY: GOOD EVENING, MIKE PERRY, BUDGET OFFICER.
08:58:16PM GENERALLY AGAINST STATE LAW TO PREPAY FOR ITEMS.
08:58:20PM YOU PAY FOR IT WHEN YOU RECEIVE THEM.
08:58:23PM JUST LIKE WE SORT OF TALKED BEFORE.
08:58:25PM YOU WANT TO APPLY THE RIGHT FUNDING SOURCES TO WHAT YOU ARE
08:58:28PM BUYING.
08:58:29PM SO DO YOU WANT TO INVEST A DEBT INSTRUMENT INTO AN ASSET
08:58:36PM THAT IT WILL HAVE A LONG LIFE SUCH AS A FIRE STATION 24.
08:58:40PM FIRE STATION 10 IS 95 YEARS OLD.
08:58:44PM ANOTHER ONE IS OVER 100 YEARS OLD.
08:58:47PM OBVIOUSLY FIRE STATION 24 WILL BE AROUND.
08:58:49PM YOU WANT TO THE USE DEBT FINANCING FOR THAT LIKE WE TALKED
08:58:53PM IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS OF EQUITY WITH COUNCILMAN
08:58:58PM CLENDENIN.
08:58:58PM NOW THAT $8 MILLION.
08:59:00PM WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THAT $8 MILLION IN THE VEHICLES IS LOCK
08:59:03PM THE PRICES IN NOW.
08:59:04PM WE ENTER INTO A CONTRACT LIKE, I GUESS, YOU ARE GOING TO
08:59:10PM ENTER SOME CONTRACT FOR VEHICLE PURCHASES.
08:59:13PM YOU DO THAT UPON MOST OF YOUR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
08:59:15PM YOU LOCK THAT PRICE IN.
08:59:17PM AND THEN WE DON'T PAY THAT UNTIL WE ACTUALLY RECEIVE THE
08:59:21PM ASSET.
08:59:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: UNDERSTOOD, BY LAW.
08:59:24PM >>MIKE PERRY: BY LAW.
08:59:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
08:59:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MONEY IN THE MEANTIME?
08:59:31PM >> THE MONEY REMAINS -- IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE
08:59:33PM COMMUNITY INVESTMENT PROGRAM 6 FUND.
08:59:36PM IT DRAWS INTEREST UNTIL IT IS DISBURSED.
08:59:40PM IF YOU DO FUND ACCOUNTING, IT IS REALLY A SEPARATE BANK
08:59:45PM ACCOUNT.
08:59:45PM MONEY IS RECEIVED IN THERE.
08:59:47PM MONEY IS DISPERSED IN THERE, AND WHEN THE ACCOUNTING OFFICE
08:59:52PM RECEIVES THE MONTHLY INTEREST, THE ALLOCATED PAYS ON THE
08:59:55PM AVERAGE CASH BALANCES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
08:59:57PM SO, AGAIN, SELF-CONTAINED WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW MUCH OCCURS.
9:00:00PM IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE'LL TRANSFER THE MONEY TO A
9:00:03PM VEHICLE PURCHASE FUND SPECIFICALLY FOR PROGRAM 6 CIT.
9:00:08PM WHAT WE DON'T EVER WANT TO DO IS INTERMINGLE COMMUNITY
9:00:11PM INVESTMENT TAX MONEY WITH ANY OTHER FUNDING SOURCE, BECAUSE
9:00:15PM WE DO GET AUDITED BY IT, AND WE HAVE TO DO REPORTS ON THAT.
9:00:20PM HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
9:00:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BASICALLY THAT $8 MILLION IS GOING TO SIT IN
9:00:26PM AN INTEREST-BEARING ACCOUNT REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO FOR ALL
9:00:28PM OF FY 2024.
9:00:31PM >> THE ADVANTAGE HERE IS YOU LOCK IN THE VEHICLES AT THE
9:00:33PM CURRENT PRICES.
9:00:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DID YOU ALL PROMISE $12 MILLION TO BUILD A
9:00:37PM FIRE STATION?
9:00:39PM IF SO, WHAT YEAR WAS THAT?
9:00:42PM WHERE IS THAT MONEY?
9:00:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. STOCCO KNOWS THAT.
9:00:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: FISCAL YEAR '22 AS PART OF THE CAPITAL
9:00:57PM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, GOING OFF MEMORY, ABOUT $11.7 MILLION
9:01:01PM ANTICIPATED FOR FISCAL YEAR '23, THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR.
9:01:06PM AGAIN, THAT FUNDING SOURCE WAS ANTICIPATED TO BE DEBT
9:01:09PM SERVICE.
9:01:09PM WHEN THAT PROJECT WAS DELAYED WE OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T ISSUE THE
9:01:19PM DEBT SERVICE BECAUSE NO FUNDING WAS NEEDED AT THAT TIME.
9:01:24PM DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
9:01:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:01:27PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:01:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
9:01:32PM A FEW THINGS.
9:01:33PM ONE, COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR
9:01:37PM SEVERAL YEARS AND I SECOND TO KEEP IT MOVING.
9:01:41PM IF YOU WOULD RATHER SECOND, YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO THAT.
9:01:43PM >> OH, NO.
9:01:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: NUMBER TWO, TO THE POINT MY COLLEAGUE,
9:01:48PM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON IS SAYING, COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS
9:01:54PM BEEN WORKING ON THIS THREE OR FOUR YEARS AND WE ALL THOUGHT
9:01:57PM IT WAS APPROVED A YEAR OR MORE AGO AND WE FOUND OUT LAST
9:02:01PM WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO IT DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD.
9:02:03PM WE WERE NEVER TOLD IT DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD AND SOMEBODY MADE
9:02:06PM THE DECISION NOT TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
9:02:08PM MY UNDERSTANDING EVEN WAS ON THE 1.4 MILLION OR WHATEVER ON
9:02:11PM DESIGN, THAT THAT WAS MOVING FORWARD.
9:02:14PM YOU'RE SAYING NOTHING WAS DONE, NO DESIGN, NOTHING WAS DONE
9:02:20PM IN THE LAST YEAR.
9:02:21PM FORGET THAT QUESTION.
9:02:22PM I THINK WHAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE TRYING TO DO IS FIGURE OUT
9:02:25PM HOW DO WE MOVE THIS FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE?
9:02:28PM THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT MOVE FORWARD QUICKLY.
9:02:30PM WE KNOW FROM TALKING WITH FIREFIGHTERS THAT LIVES ARE AT
9:02:34PM RISK.
9:02:35PM I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO DETAILS WITH CASE STUDIES, BUT LIVES
9:02:37PM ARE AT RISK AND WE NEED THE FIRE STATIONS OPEN AS SOON AS
9:02:40PM POSSIBLE TO SAVE PEOPLE.
9:02:41PM LIKE SOMEONE SAID, IF SOMEONE HAS A HEART ATTACK AND WE
9:02:44PM DON'T GET THERE IN TIME, THEY DIE.
9:02:46PM IS THERE NOTHING WE CAN DO TO SPEED THIS UP?
9:02:48PM WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MOSTLY DONE BY NOW AND FOUND OUT IT
9:02:52PM WASN'T MOVED FORWARD AT ALL.
9:02:54PM HOW CAN WE MOVE THIS FORWARD QUICKLY?
9:02:56PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN, I'LL DEFER TO CONTRACT
9:02:58PM ADMINISTRATION.
9:02:58PM FROM A FUNDING PERSPECTIVE, THE FUNDING IS THERE AND HAS
9:03:01PM BEEN THERE FOR DESIGN.
9:03:02PM WE CAN TIME THE NECESSARY FUNDING FOR CONSTRUCTION,
9:03:06PM ET CETERA, ET CETERA, WHENEVER THE PROJECT IS AVAILABLE --
9:03:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF BEFORE THEY CUT ME OFF.
9:03:14PM WE HAVE A NEW PERSON IN CHARGE OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
9:03:17PM I AGREE WITH MR. ROBINSON.
9:03:18PM WE NEED TO PUT CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION WITH PURCHASING, NOT
9:03:22PM SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE
9:03:25PM THIS QUICKLY SO WE CAN SAVE PEOPLE'S LIVES.
9:03:27PM WE'VE GOT MORE THAN ONE WE NEED TO DO.
9:03:29PM THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO TO SPEED IT UP?
9:03:31PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT DOING A DESIGN-BUILD
9:03:34PM APPROACH.
9:03:34PM THAT DESIGN-BUILD APPROACH WOULD SAVE US TIME VERSUS DESIGN
9:03:39PM BID BUILD.
9:03:40PM THERE ARE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES TO BOTH.
9:03:42PM IF TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, WHICH IT IS HERE, WE CAN WORK TO
9:03:48PM PUT A DESIGN PACKAGE TOGETHER.
9:03:52PM PRIORITIZE IT IN TERMS OF GETTING IT OUT AND PROCURED.
9:03:55PM THERE ARE STEPS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH LEGALLY WITH
9:03:57PM PROCUREMENT IN TERMS OF ADVERTISING AND GIVING PROPER NOTICE
9:04:01PM TO BIDDERS.
9:04:02PM AGAIN, IN TERMS OF OUR INTERNAL PRIORITIES, WE CAN CERTAINLY
9:04:04PM MAKE IT A PRIORITY.
9:04:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I WOULD
9:04:08PM JUST ASK MS. DUNCAN AND ANYBODY WHO IS INVOLVED IN THIS,
9:04:14PM CHIEF, MAYBE COME BACK TO US WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR
9:04:17PM SOMETHING AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO SPEED IT UP.
9:04:20PM I THINK THE PUBLIC IS VERY, VERY CONCERNED AS THEY ARE
9:04:22PM STARTING TO LEARN ABOUT THIS.
9:04:23PM THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR SAFETY.
9:04:26PM THE LAST MINUTE I HAVE, CAN I ASK MR. STOCCO, DO YOU HAVE
9:04:29PM ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
9:04:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. STOCCO, CLENDENIN, MIRANDA.
9:04:32PM YOU'RE OUT.
9:04:36PM >> GOOD EVENING.
9:04:36PM NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS.
9:04:39PM IF WE CAN JUST GO TO THE ELMO.
9:04:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:04:42PM IT'S ON.
9:04:42PM PUT YOUR STUFF DOWN.
9:04:43PM >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THIS FIRST ONE.
9:04:45PM THIS IS THE SCHEDULE WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT AND IT'S
9:04:56PM BEING PRESENTED TODAY WITH THE START OF FISCAL YEAR 2024.
9:05:00PM I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S EFFORTS AND WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, A
9:05:03PM LITTLE HISTORY LESSON.
9:05:05PM THIS IS THE SCHEDULE FROM FISCAL YEAR 2020.
9:05:09PM AND IF YOU ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT THERE WAS $230,000 IN WHAT
9:05:14PM APPEARS TO BE SOME DESIGN MONEY SLOTTED FOR FISCAL YEAR '21.
9:05:17PM SO THIS IS IN FISCAL YEAR '20 TO '24 WITH THE PROJECT NUMBER
9:05:24PM AND $230,000 FOR DESIGN MONEY.
9:05:26PM FAST-FORWARD TO TODAY, IT MIGHT BE 1.5 MILLION FOR DESIGN
9:05:30PM MONEY.
9:05:31PM THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE THINGS WILL GET MORE EXPENSIVE.
9:05:33PM WE CAN FAST-FORWARD FROM FISCAL YEAR 2020 TO THIS CAPITAL
9:05:39PM IMPROVEMENT PLAN SCHEDULE THAT REFERENCES THESE ESTIMATES,
9:05:45PM WHERE IT SAYS 230,000 FOR THE BUDGET TO DATE AS WELL AS
9:05:50PM 650,000 -- EXCUSE ME, 650,000.
9:05:57PM YOU SEE LAND, YOU SEE SOME OTHER FIGURES THERE.
9:06:01PM YOU SEE WHERE THE FUNDING CAME FROM.
9:06:03PM THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND WHERE THE MONEY IS
9:06:05PM COMING FROM.
9:06:06PM IT APPEARS WE HEARD IT IS FROM DEBT SERVICES.
9:06:08PM HOWEVER, IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING
9:06:11PM FROM IS THE ISSUE.
9:06:12PM IT IS THE IMPLEMENTATION, LIKE IT WAS SAID EARLIER.
9:06:16PM THIS IS ALL HISTORY WHERE WE'VE HAD THESE DISCUSSIONS OVER
9:06:19PM AND OVER AGAIN AT THE ROUNDTABLE AS TO WHETHER IT IS A DEBT
9:06:22PM SERVICE OR IF IT'S ONE OF THE FIREFIGHTERS PAYING FOR IT OR
9:06:26PM WHOEVER.
9:06:27PM IT'S IMPLEMENTING IT AND PUTTING THE PLAN INTO ACTION.
9:06:30PM SO WHERE THE MONEY COMING FROM, IT APPEARS IT WAS IN DEBT
9:06:34PM SERVICES IN THE PAST.
9:06:36PM HOWEVER, THE IMPLEMENTATION SEEMS TO BE WHERE WE'RE STUCK.
9:06:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:06:39PM WE HAVE CLENDENIN, VIERA, HURTAK.
9:06:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I BELIEVE WHERE WE WERE WAS A MOTION TO
9:06:47PM TAKE MONEY OUT OF CIT FOR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT AND PUT IT
9:06:51PM INTO THE FIRE STATION.
9:06:52PM I BELIEVE BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THAT WE'VE HEARD, BECAUSE
9:06:54PM THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE THROUGH DEBT SERVICES AND BONDING,
9:06:57PM THAT REALLY IS NOT A NEED TO FINANCE THIS.
9:06:59PM IT APPEARS TO BE WHERE THE CONCERN IS, IS THE IMPLEMENTATION
9:07:04PM SCHEDULE.
9:07:05PM I BELIEVE MS. DUNCAN ADDRESSED THAT AS FAR AS EXPEDITING THE
9:07:09PM CONSTRUCTION OF THE STATION.
9:07:11PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE, HOW WE CAN CRAFT OR -- MANDATING THAT.
9:07:18PM I THINK WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR WE WANT IT ACCELERATED.
9:07:21PM THAT BEING SAID, THE CIT MONEY FOR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, I
9:07:24PM DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REALIZE WHAT DIRE NEEDS BOTH THE
9:07:27PM POLICE AND FIRE HAVE IN THE VEHICLES.
9:07:28PM AGAIN, WHAT OUR CFO JUST SAID, WE NEED TO COMMIT THE FUNDS
9:07:35PM NOW BECAUSE THAT LOCKS IN THE PRICES.
9:07:37PM WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE AN INTEREST-BEARING ACCOUNT, BUT
9:07:41PM WE LOCK IN THE PRICES BECAUSE WHO KNOWS WHAT INFLATION WILL
9:07:44PM BRING FOR THE NEXT 12 TO 24 MONTHS.
9:07:47PM WE KNOW WHAT NEEDS OF OUR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM IS.
9:07:50PM IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS KEEP DEFERRING.
9:07:54PM SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TALK ABOUT THE AGE OF SOME OF THESE
9:07:56PM VEHICLES AND REITERATE THE NEEDS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
9:07:59PM I MEAN, CHIEF, IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT OR IF YOU WANT TO
9:08:02PM DEFER TO SOMEONE ELSE, IT'S FINE.
9:08:05PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:08:07PM ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I ASKED OF THE BUDGET OFFICE WHEN
9:08:09PM EVERYBODY WAS DISCUSSING THIS IS WHAT IS THE BACKLOG OF THE
9:08:12PM REPLACEMENT VEHICLES AND IT'S OVER $60 MILLION.
9:08:16PM $61 MILLION OF THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PLAN FOR FIRE RESCUE.
9:08:21PM SO, AGAIN, JUST TO HELP WITH THE PRIORITIZATION DISCUSSION,
9:08:24PM I CAN TELL YOU FROM RUNNING AND SUPPORTING ONE OF THE
9:08:27PM LARGEST FIRE DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTRY IN PINELLAS COUNTY
9:08:30PM THAT THOSE FIVE RESCUE VEHICLES THAT WILL GO INTO THE
9:08:34PM STATIONS IS THE THINGS THAT WILL HANDLE 87 TO 90 PERCENT OF
9:08:38PM THE CALLS.
9:08:38PM AND THE COMMITMENT WE JUST MADE ABOUT TRYING TO GET TO 30
9:08:42PM FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS THROUGH THIS FISCAL YEAR FROM 18 TO A
9:08:45PM FULL 30, WHEN THOSE FIRE RESCUE VEHICLES COME IN IN THE
9:08:50PM FIRST OF THE YEAR, IT PROBABLY WILL HAVE THE LARGEST IMPACT.
9:08:54PM THAT SAID, IF YOU LOOK OVER WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA TALKED
9:08:57PM ABOUT, WHEN WE SAW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN STATION 13 AND
9:09:01PM EXPOSED WHEN WE FIRST GOT HERE, WE HAVE THREE STATIONS WITH
9:09:04PM PROXIMITY OF EACH OTHER.
9:09:06PM 13 ALREADY EXISTED.
9:09:08PM 25 WAS ADAPTED TO, THANKS TO CHIEF TRIPP AND CONTRACT ADMIN
9:09:13PM AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO RENOVATED THAT STATION.
9:09:16PM AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A 24.
9:09:18PM IT'S CO-LOCATED WITH 13, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO
9:09:21PM NOW IS DECOUPLE THAT AND PUT IT IN THE RIGHT SPOT.
9:09:23PM SO THE ASSETS ARE THERE.
9:09:24PM THE PERSONNEL, THE ROLLING STOCK, EVERYTHING ELSE.
9:09:27PM BUT THE BIG GAME CHANGER IS GOING TO BE THOSE FIVE RESCUE
9:09:30PM VEHICLES, IN MY OPINION, THAT DO 87 TO 90 PERCENT OF THE
9:09:33PM WORK WHILE WE WORK ON THE RENOVATION, REMODEL, AND THEN, OF
9:09:37PM COURSE, THE BUILD AS NECESSARY.
9:09:39PM SO THAT'S TO ME ALL THE DECISION SUPPORT ON THE TABLE
9:09:42PM TONIGHT AND THAT'S WHY THE MAYOR AND ALL OF YOU, WE WANT TO
9:09:45PM COMMIT TO GETTING THOSE 30 FIREFIGHTERS ON THE STREET THIS
9:09:48PM FISCAL YEAR WITH THOSE FIVE RESCUE VEHICLES ALREADY ORDERED
9:09:52PM AND EXPECTED TO BE HERE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
9:09:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LASTLY, I WANT TO ADDRESS, AND I'M GOING
9:09:57PM TO HARKEN BACK TO SOMETHING I SAID EARLIER ABOUT THE
9:10:00PM DIFFERENT ROLES OF GOVERNMENT, CITY, COUNTY, STATE, FEDERAL.
9:10:03PM THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE JUST HAVE MULTIPLE FUNDING
9:10:08PM STREAMS THAT COME FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES, AND THEN THERE ARE
9:10:11PM OTHER THINGS THAT IT IS JUST THE CITY THAT CAN COME IN AND
9:10:14PM RESCUE.
9:10:14PM IT'S JUST THE CITY.
9:10:15PM OBVIOUSLY, A GRANT HERE OR THERE, BUT PROVIDING FOR OUR
9:10:20PM POLICE, PROVIDING FOR OUR FIREFIGHTER, PAVING OUR ROADS,
9:10:24PM FIXING OUR OWN PARKS, THERE'S NOBODY COMING TO THE RESCUE.
9:10:27PM THIS HAS TO BE DONE WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:10:29PM SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
9:10:32PM THERE ISN'T ANY OUTSIDE MONEY.
9:10:34PM A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT, INCLUDING
9:10:36PM HOUSING, THERE ARE MULTIPLE FUNDING STREAMS COMING FROM
9:10:39PM MULTIPLE SOURCES.
9:10:40PM BUT NOBODY IS COMING TO BUILD US A STATION.
9:10:45PM NOBODY IS COMING TO GIVE US FIRE TRUCKS.
9:10:48PM NOBODY IS COMING TO HIRE A POLICE OFFICER.
9:10:50PM AGAIN, EXCEPT FOR THESE -- EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE WE GET
9:10:54PM THESE GRANTS.
9:10:55PM BUT GENERALLY THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO OURSELVES AND
9:10:58PM NOBODY IS GOING TO COME AND PAVE THE ROADS.
9:11:00PM NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS ARE ONLY GOING TO BE OWNED BY THE CITY --
9:11:05PM COUNTY ROADS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THEIR THINGS.
9:11:07PM WITHIN THE CITY ROADS, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD STREET, THE ONLY
9:11:10PM PERSON THAT'S GOING TO DO THAT IS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:11:12PM THAT'S IT.
9:11:12PM THANK YOU.
9:11:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:11:14PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:11:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:11:15PM SO I'VE ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND I THINK COUNCIL HAS,
9:11:18PM AND I THINK THE DECISION WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IS BASED UPON
9:11:21PM THE RESPONSES WE'VE GOTTEN.
9:11:23PM I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN SPECIFICITY THAT I
9:11:26PM WOULD LIKE ON THESE VEHICLES IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY'LL GO.
9:11:31PM THINGS ARE VAGUE.
9:11:32PM BEING HONEST.
9:11:33PM FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND RIGHT NOW, THE $8 MILLION IS GOING TO
9:11:35PM SIT THERE.
9:11:36PM IF I'M INCORRECT, PLEASE SOMEBODY TELL ME.
9:11:39PM THE $8 MILLION IS GOING TO SIT THERE.
9:11:41PM AND IF WE DEDICATE IT TO THE VEHICLES, WE LOCK IN THE PRICE
9:11:44PM NOW, RIGHT?
9:11:45PM SO IF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS WISELY LOOKING FOR SOME SORT OF
9:11:49PM A SKIN IN THE GAME, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL, FOR STATION 24,
9:11:53PM YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S 4 MILLION BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT
9:11:57PM 50-50 OR 3 MILLION OR 2 MILLION, JUST TO MAKE IT A
9:12:01PM SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER SO THAT THERE'S BUY-IN SO THAT WE CAN USE
9:12:04PM AS MUCH OF THIS MONEY TO LOCK IN THE VALUE FOR THE VEHICLES
9:12:10PM AND WHATNOT.
9:12:11PM I THINK THE REAL CRITICAL ISSUE HERE IS THAT NO MATTER WHAT
9:12:14PM WE DO, I AM GOING TO MOTION ON THURSDAY TO HAVE THAT
9:12:17PM DISCUSSION ON GOVERNMENT BONDS AND BONDS COMING BACK INSTEAD
9:12:20PM OF DECEMBER TO OCTOBER, BECAUSE WE NEED TO HAVE THAT
9:12:23PM DISCUSSION.
9:12:23PM FRANKLY, AND I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION THIS
9:12:25PM EVENING.
9:12:26PM LOVE TO HAVE A POLL ON COUNCIL OF WHO WOULD BE AMENABLE TO
9:12:30PM BORROWING FOR FIRE STATIONS AND WHATNOT.
9:12:32PM WILL THIS HELP US WIN SOMEBODY'S VOTE?
9:12:34PM TAKING OUT A MILLION WHATEVER, SKIN IN THE GAME DOWN
9:12:38PM PAYMENT, WHATEVER.
9:12:39PM IS THAT GOING TO HELP?
9:12:40PM BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE THE ONLY WAY WE GET THIS DONE.
9:12:43PM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
9:12:46PM NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR ONLY OPTIONS ON THIS.
9:12:48PM I WANT TO CONFIRM AGAIN, THIS IS MONEY NOT COMING FROM THE
9:12:50PM POLICE.
9:12:51PM THIS IS NOT MONEY THAT'S COMING FROM THAT VEHICLE FOR K-BAR
9:12:57PM RANCH, AND TO MR. STOCCO HERE WITH THE UNION, I WANT TO MAKE
9:13:02PM SURE, WHICH IS DO YOU -- AND I WOULD OBVIOUSLY DEFER TO
9:13:07PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IN THIS REGARD, BUT IF WE WERE TO TAKE
9:13:10PM SOME FUNDS OUT OF THAT $8 MILLION TO PUT IT AS A DOWN
9:13:14PM PAYMENT FOR SKIN IN THE GAME FOR STATION 24, AND THEN WE
9:13:18PM WOULD LOSE POTENTIALLY A MILLION, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, TO
9:13:22PM LOCK IN VEHICLES, WHAT WOULD THE UNION'S POSITION ON THAT
9:13:26PM BE, SIR?
9:13:27PM AGAIN, ALL I'M DOING IS LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON A MOTION.
9:13:31PM I ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
9:13:32PM I'M NOT SATISFIED WITH SOME OF THE RESPONSES, FRANKLY, BUT I
9:13:34PM JUST WANT TO KNOW FROM YOU, SIR.
9:13:36PM >> NICK STOCCO, TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS PRESIDENT.
9:13:39PM I APPRECIATE YOUR REMARKS AND I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE
9:13:44PM SAYING.
9:13:44PM HOWEVER, I THINK WE LEARNED SOMETHING, AT LEAST I DID,
9:13:47PM THAT'S PRETTY VALUABLE.
9:13:48PM NOT TOO LONG AGO, WE HEARD 15 RESCUES, 5 ENGINES, 2 HEAVIES,
9:13:54PM A TAILOR AND A BOAT PAID FOR.
9:13:57PM TODAY WE'RE HEARING WE DON'T PAY FOR THEM UNTIL WE RECEIVE
9:14:01PM THEM.
9:14:01PM SO IF WE ORDERED THOSE VEHICLES AND THEY DO COME, I THINK IT
9:14:07PM WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THOSE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN CASE
9:14:11PM THE VEHICLES COME NEXT MONTH IF WE DO HAVE TO PAY FOR THEM
9:14:14PM NEXT MONTH.
9:14:15PM THAT'S JUST FROM WHAT I LEARNED.
9:14:18PM I THINK WITHIN THE LAST TEN MINUTES --
9:14:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THE MONEY ALREADY SITTING IN AN ACCOUNT?
9:14:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, IF THE VEHICLES SHOW UP, WE HAVE
9:14:25PM TO PAY FOR THEM.
9:14:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF THE MONEY IS ALREADY SITTING THERE, WE'RE
9:14:29PM WAITING.
9:14:29PM >> THANK YOU.
9:14:30PM I WASN'T SURE OF THAT.
9:14:31PM IF THE PRICE WERE TO GO UP, IF WE CAN LOCK SOMETHING IN, IF
9:14:34PM WE'RE LOCKING SOMETHING IN ON PRICES FOR VEHICLES, IF WE'RE
9:14:38PM NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY LEEWAY WITH THE $8 MILLION, THE
9:14:43PM CONTRACT, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, BECAUSE CONTRACT ADMIN,
9:14:46PM WHICHEVER GROUP, TEAM, WHICHEVER TAKES A YEAR TO SURVEY
9:14:50PM LAND, DESIGN, DRAW, BUILD, WHICHEVER, THE MONEY WOULD BE
9:14:54PM BEST UTILIZED TO LOCK IN SOME KIND OF PRICE FOR DOWN PAYMENT
9:14:58PM ON THE VEHICLES, AND THAT WOULD BE MY OPINION OR OUR
9:15:03PM OPINION, I'M SORRY.
9:15:03PM THE UNION'S POSITION.
9:15:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK I THINK WANTS TO ASK
9:15:07PM QUESTIONS.
9:15:08PM IT'S YOUR MOTION, DO YOU MIND IF I ASK ONE LAST QUESTION, IF
9:15:11PM I MAY?
9:15:11PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:15:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
9:15:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:15:15PM QUESTION FOR YOU, BECAUSE, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHERE
9:15:18PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS GOING TO GO WITH HER MOTION, BUT IF A
9:15:21PM MOTION WAS BEFORE US TO DEDICATE, LET'S SAY, A MILLION OF
9:15:24PM THE $8 MILLION FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT PUTTING SKIN
9:15:28PM IN THE GAME FOR STATION 24, WOULD YOU FAVOR THAT OR RATHER
9:15:33PM HAVE THAT MONEY TO LOCK IN VEHICLE PRICES AND LOOK AT AN
9:15:36PM OCTOBER DISCUSSION ON BONDS?
9:15:37PM AGAIN, I'M JUST WANTING INFORMATION, GUYS.
9:15:41PM THAT'S IT.
9:15:43PM >> WE DEFINITELY -- THE UNION IS DEFINITELY VERY FAR BEHIND
9:15:47PM ON STATION 24, AND WE APPRECIATE THE ENTHUSIASM FOR YEARS
9:15:50PM FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND NOW SPEARHEADED BY COUNCILWOMAN
9:15:54PM HURTAK.
9:15:55PM WE DO NEED TO LOCK SOMETHING IN.
9:15:57PM WE DO NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF PROGRESS REPORT, WHETHER
9:15:59PM IT'S MONTHLY OR EVERY TWO MONTHS ON WHERE WE'RE MAKING
9:16:03PM LEEWAY WITH THIS.
9:16:04PM ON MY WAY HERE, I SPOKE TO PRESIDENT JOE GRECO AND I TOLD
9:16:08PM HIM ABOUT SOME OF THE KEY THINGS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, AND
9:16:11PM HE SAID, "STILL."
9:16:14PM THAT SHOULD TELL US SOMETHING.
9:16:16PM I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD COMPROMISE IN REGARDS TO THE
9:16:18PM FUNDS AND LOCK SOMETHING IN.
9:16:20PM ONE AND A HALF.
9:16:23PM IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID OR ONE?
9:16:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M FINISHED.
9:16:26PM THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.
9:16:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:16:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:16:29PM HOW LONG DID IT TAKE THE COUNTY TO BUILD THEIR MOST RECENT
9:16:34PM FIRE STATION?
9:16:35PM >> IT TAKES FROM THE INFORMATION THAT I GATHERED, IT TAKES A
9:16:39PM YEAR OR LESS FOR THE SURVEYING, PLANNING, LAND AND PREP
9:16:44PM PHASE.
9:16:45PM AND THEN ABOUT A YEAR FROM GROUND BREAKING TO RIBBON
9:16:49PM CUTTING.
9:16:50PM THE GOAL IS LESS THAN TWO YEARS.
9:16:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
9:16:54PM SO SOMETHING, WHILE EVERYONE WAS TALKING THAT JUST REMINDED
9:16:59PM ME, THAT WHEN IT COMES TO INCREASES, ON PAGE 7, IT'S FOR
9:17:03PM FIRE STATION 6, 9, AND 10 FOR DEBT SERVICE.
9:17:08PM $663,525.
9:17:10PM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT'S FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
9:17:13PM PROJECTS TO JUST UPDATE THOSE STATIONS.
9:17:17PM IS THAT CORRECT?
9:17:20PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THE $663,000 GETS YOU A MAXIMUM DEBT
9:17:26PM BONDING CAPACITY OF $20 MILLION.
9:17:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:17:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT 6, 9, AND 10, OF
9:17:33PM COURSE, AS YOU KNOW.
9:17:34PM I'M NOT AWARE THAT THE DECISION HAS BEEN MADE WHETHER WE'RE
9:17:37PM GOING TO RECONSTRUCT OR REFURBISH THOSE FIRE STATIONS,
9:17:41PM DEPENDING ON WHAT DECISION IS MADE ABOUT THOSE FIRE
9:17:44PM STATIONS, OBVIOUSLY WE'D HAVE TO BOND MORE.
9:17:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:17:48PM THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.
9:17:49PM AGAIN, AS I TALKED TO BOTH CHIEF TRIPP AND MR. STOCCO AND
9:17:53PM THE FIREFIGHTERS AND VISITING THOSE STATIONS, THOSE STATIONS
9:17:57PM ARE NOT REHAB-ABLE.
9:18:00PM IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA TO THROW GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD.
9:18:04PM I HOPE I SAY THAT RIGHT -- OR BAD MONEY AFTER GOOD.
9:18:07PM THE OTHER THING WE HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO FIX STATION 9,
9:18:12PM CHIEF TRIPP, IS ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO FIND AND BUY AND BUILD A
9:18:16PM NEW FLEET SERVICES STATION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY CO-LOCATED
9:18:21PM WITH STATION 9, AM I CORRECT?
9:18:24PM >> YES, MA'AM, THAT'S CORRECT.
9:18:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: REALLY, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH 6, 9 AND 10
9:18:29PM UNTIL WE HAVE LAND TO PUT FLEET SERVICE AND SUPPLY SO THAT
9:18:34PM WE CAN BUILD A FLEET STATION SO THAT THEN WE CAN TEAR DOWN 9
9:18:39PM AND REBUILD IT, CORRECT?
9:18:43PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
9:18:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M WONDERING IF INSTEAD OF A MILLION DOLLARS
9:18:48PM TOWARD THE PROMISE OF FIRE STATION 24, WE PUT A MILLION
9:18:52PM DOLLARS TOWARD, AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE WORKING ON 24,
9:18:57PM WORKING ON FINDING, PURCHASING, AND DEVELOPING A PLAN FOR
9:19:03PM FLEET AND SUPPLY.
9:19:07PM IS THAT SOMETHING THAT I COULD GET YOUR SUPPORT ON, MR.
9:19:11PM VIERA?
9:19:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
9:19:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THAT SOMETHING I CAN GET YOUR SUPPORT ON,
9:19:15PM MR. STOCCO?
9:19:17PM >> YES.
9:19:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
9:19:20PM SO THEN I'M CHANGING MY MOTION TO PUTTING 1 MILLION OF THOSE
9:19:25PM DOLLARS TOWARD THE PLANNING, ACQUISITION, DESIGN, MOVING
9:19:33PM ALONG OF FLEET AND SUPPLY SO THAT WE CAN GET TWO THINGS
9:19:36PM GOING AT ONCE.
9:19:43PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:19:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:19:45PM NO, WE'RE COMING UP WITH A WHOLE NEW CIP --
9:19:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO, CAN YOU CLARIFY?
9:19:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THIS TAKES THE PLACE -- 6, 9, AND 10
9:19:58PM BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO THOSE UNTIL WE HAVE SOMEPLACE TO PUT
9:20:01PM FLEET.
9:20:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'RE DELETING THAT 680 --
9:20:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, NO.
9:20:06PM THAT CAN GO TOWARD THAT TOO.
9:20:09PM THAT'S GOING TOWARD DEBT.
9:20:10PM RIGHT NOW, IF WE CAN'T PUT IT TOWARD DEBT ANYWAY, WE MIGHT
9:20:13PM AS WELL PUT THE MILLION DOLLARS WE HAVE NOT DEBT TOWARD
9:20:16PM PLANNING.
9:20:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:20:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I LIKE THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'RE GOING,
9:20:25PM BUT FOR CLARITY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WE CAN STILL DO -- WE
9:20:30PM CAN'T DO ANY OF THESE STATIONS UNTIL WE GET FLEET MANAGEMENT
9:20:33PM FACILITY?
9:20:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN'T DO 9, BUT THEN 6 WE HAVE TO GET A
9:20:38PM WHOLE NEW PIECE OF LAND BECAUSE WE CAN'T EXPAND 6.
9:20:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN TAKE THAT 663,525 OUT
9:20:45PM BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO GO TOWARDS BONDING TO BE ABLE TO DO
9:20:49PM FOR THOSE OTHER TWO STATIONS.
9:20:51PM CAN'T SPEND MONEY AND PROBABLY IN FISCAL YEAR '24 WE'RE NOT
9:20:56PM GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPEND MONEY ON 9.
9:20:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
9:20:59PM NOT SPEND IT ON 9.
9:21:01PM CAN'T SPEND ON 6 BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BUY A WHOLE NEW PIECE OF
9:21:04PM LAND.
9:21:04PM NO ROOM TO EXPAND 6.
9:21:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN START THE PROCESS IN '24.
9:21:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
9:21:09PM YEAH, WE CAN START THE DESIGN.
9:21:12PM BUT WHAT THIS IS SAYING, WHAT THIS $666,000 IS DOING IS
9:21:17PM GOING TOWARD DEBT.
9:21:19PM I'M SAYING WHAT CAN WE DO THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO BOND
9:21:25PM FOR ANYTHING, BUT YET TO PREPARE FOR THE THINGS WE WANT TO
9:21:29PM DO.
9:21:30PM SO IF THAT'S $1 MILLION OR IF THAT'S $2 MILLION LATER, I'M
9:21:33PM SAYING 1 MILLION RIGHT NOW JUST FOR GOOD FAITH AND THEN
9:21:37PM MAYBE LATER ON MOVING ANOTHER MILLION TO TRY TO FIND A SPOT
9:21:42PM FOR 6 AND 10.
9:21:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE IS THE PROBLEM WITH THAT.
9:21:46PM I LIKE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THIS BETTER THAN THE LAST
9:21:49PM MOTION.
9:21:49PM I THINK WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
9:21:51PM THE PROBLEM IS THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE WORKING IN STATIONS THAT
9:21:53PM ARE REALLY BELOW HUMAN STANDARDS.
9:21:55PM WE HAVE AN IMMEDIATE NEED AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE
9:21:59PM SAYING ABOUT 9.
9:21:59PM 6 AND 10 WE HAVE AN IMMEDIATE NEED.
9:22:02PM THIS IS DEBT SERVICES -- HONESTLY, I DON'T AGREE WITH DEBT
9:22:06PM SERVICES FOR RENOVATIONS.
9:22:07PM I WOULD RATHER PAY AS YOU GO, BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE OUT THE
9:22:11PM WINDOW, SO HERE WE ARE.
9:22:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE THROWING $20 MILLION TO FIX SOMETHING
9:22:16PM THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE TORN DOWN.
9:22:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT FIX IT.
9:22:20PM THE $20 MILLION GIVES -- IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THE $20
9:22:23PM MILLION IN DEBTNESS IS TO EITHER REBUILD OR REFURBISH,
9:22:28PM WHICHEVER IS THE MOST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE THING.
9:22:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S 18 MILLION TO BUILD ONE STATION.
9:22:33PM 20 MILLION IS NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
9:22:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GET US GOING IN '24.
9:22:38PM IT IS THE CATALYST MONEY TO GET US GOING IN '24.
9:22:42PM THIS RIGHT HERE IS FISCAL YEAR '24.
9:22:45PM THEY MAY BE COMING BACK TO US IN FISCAL YEAR '25.
9:22:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
9:22:50PM WELL, NO, THIS VERY CLEARLY, IT SAYS DEBT SERVICE.
9:22:53PM THEY WOULD BE DOING DEBT SERVICE THIS YEAR.
9:22:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR $20 MILLION, WHATEVER $20 MILLION
9:22:59PM WOULD COVER OF STATION 6 AND 10.
9:23:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONLY FIXING UP THOSE STATIONS.
9:23:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 6 AND 10 TORN DOWN AND REBUILT?
9:23:12PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: CHIEF BARBARA TRIPP TAMPA FIRE RESCUE CHIEF.
9:23:17PM STATION 6 IS THE 1914 STATION.
9:23:20PM STATION 10 IS 1921.
9:23:23PM I DON'T THINK THEY CAN BE TORN DOWN BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY
9:23:28PM OF THEM, HISTORICAL BUILDING.
9:23:30PM BUT NEITHER ONE OF THOSE -- THOSE ARE TWO OF THE ONES THAT
9:23:34PM DON'T HAVE THE ALS TRANSPORT UNITS IN IT.
9:23:37PM AS I STATED WITH STATION 6 BEING A SPECIAL UNIT, PORT TAMPA,
9:23:42PM THAT'S ONE OF THE STATIONS I WOULD LOVE TO PUT A FIVE BAY
9:23:45PM STATION SO IT HAS ALL THE RESOURCES IT NEEDS TO FULFILL THE
9:23:48PM SPECIALTY, THE FOAM TRUCK, DECON TRAILER, RESCUE CAR, HIT
9:23:52PM TRUCK, AS WELL AS THE ENGINE.
9:23:54PM WE WERE LOOKING AT PROPERTY CLOSE BY IN THE PROPERTY NEXT TO
9:23:58PM IT AND, OF COURSE, UNSUCCESSFUL SO FAR BUT STILL LOOKING.
9:24:04PM STATION 10, IT'S ALREADY LIKE A TWO STORY BUT NO LAND
9:24:08PM NOWHERE AROUND IT.
9:24:09PM ONCE WE GET THE FLEET AND SUPPLY TOGETHER, MY PLAN WAS TO
9:24:14PM TAKE STATION 10 AND PUT IT AT THE SUPPLY BUILDING, WHICH IS
9:24:17PM A BLOCK AWAY TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND THAT.
9:24:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I'M HEARING, THE 663,525, TO
9:24:24PM ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH WITH 6, 9, 10 IS
9:24:27PM WOEFULLY INSUFFICIENT TO ACCOMPLISH.
9:24:29PM WHAT IS THE DOLLAR FIGURE WE WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO
9:24:34PM ACCOMPLISH THIS?
9:24:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
9:24:36PM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
9:24:38PM WE HAVE DRAFT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS FOR EACH OF THE
9:24:44PM FIRE STATIONS, AFTER TALKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT,
9:24:47PM CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND FACILITIES.
9:24:48PM NOW, THESE ARE COMPLETE RECONSTRUCTIONS WITH THE EXCEPTION
9:24:52PM OF FIRE STATION 10 IS A DEMOLITION AND BUILD FROM THE GROUND
9:24:56PM UP, AND WE'VE GOT THESE, AGAIN, DEPENDING UPON WHICH
9:25:00PM DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTED TO GO TONIGHT OR WANTS TO GO IN THE
9:25:02PM FUTURE.
9:25:03PM BUT YOU SUMMED IT UP, SIR.
9:25:04PM IT'S CERTAINLY $20 MILLION IS NOT GOING TO BE ADEQUATE.
9:25:08PM YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN FIRE STATION 24, IF I CAN SHOW YOU THE
9:25:12PM FIRE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY, YOU CAN SEE THAT'S ABOUT A $35
9:25:16PM MILLION ANTICIPATED PROJECT.
9:25:21PM QUITE A BIT OF IT FOR LAND, AND THEN YOU SEE THE BULK OF THE
9:25:26PM -- OTHER THAN LAND, BULK OF THE EXPENSE OUT IN FISCAL YEAR
9:25:31PM 2027.
9:25:32PM AS WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED, I BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
9:25:34PM SAID, THIS HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE YOU CAN MOVE ON FIRE
9:25:38PM STATION 9.
9:25:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH $20 MILLION?
9:25:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW,
9:25:48PM DISCUSSING WHAT THE PRIORITIZATION IS FOR THAT POTENTIAL
9:25:50PM BONDING.
9:25:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ALL PUT THE PRIORITIZATION 6, 9, 10,
9:25:55PM DEBT SERVICES.
9:25:55PM CLEARLY THAT IS INCORRECT.
9:25:57PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT WAS WHAT WAS MENTIONED DURING THE
9:26:00PM WORKSHOP AND PUT ON THE SHEETS OF PAPER.
9:26:03PM IT'S CERTAINLY COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE TO CHANGE THAT.
9:26:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT REALLY IS MISLEADING BECAUSE WE CAN'T
9:26:09PM DO 6, 9, 10 WITH DEBT SERVICES FOR $663,000.
9:26:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR RECONSTRUCTION.
9:26:17PM I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY IS ADVOCATING THIS, BUT YOU COULD
9:26:21PM REFURB.
9:26:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS ADVOCATING THAT.
9:26:24PM I DON'T THINK YOU'RE ADVOCATING IT.
9:26:25PM MY QUESTION IS, WHAT ARE WE DOING?
9:26:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT THIS?
9:26:34PM NO, SERIOUSLY, WE'RE MAKING SAUSAGE.
9:26:40PM SO WHY DON'T WE TAKE THIS 663,525 AND INSTEAD OF FIRE
9:26:47PM STATION 6, 9, AND 10, WE PUT IT TOWARD THE BUILDING OR THE
9:26:54PM FINDING, ACQUISITION FOR FLEET MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY?
9:26:58PM I'D LOVE TO PUT ANOTHER MILLION INTO IT.
9:27:00PM I THINK THAT'S NECESSARY BECAUSE OF THE TIME AND EFFORT.
9:27:03PM SO I WOULD SAY 1.663, YA-DA YA-DA FOR PUTTING TOWARD STATION
9:27:11PM 24 OR STATION 24 ALREADY HAS THEIR STUFF.
9:27:13PM NOW WE NEED TO FIND A LOCATION AND VETTING AND EVERYTHING
9:27:19PM WITH REAL ESTATE FOR THIS FLEET AND SUPPLY STATION.
9:27:24PM THAT SEEMS TO BE THE NEXT PRIORITY.
9:27:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELL, I WAS REALLY DETERMINED AND SURE
9:27:29PM THAT THESE FIREFIGHTERS SAW SOMETHING FROM THIS COUNCIL AS
9:27:33PM FAR AS RENOVATING THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY ARE WORKING AND
9:27:35PM LIVING IN IN THESE STATIONS THAT WE HAD TO TAKE STEPS.
9:27:40PM MOLD IN IT FOR GOD SAKE.
9:27:45PM DON'T EXPECT PEOPLE TO WORK IN THAT.
9:27:47PM I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS BUDGET ITEM IS WOEFULLY INADEQUATE.
9:27:51PM DO WE PULL MORE FROM GENERAL FUND, RESERVE?
9:27:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I MAY, YOU SEE THE TIME FRAMES
9:27:57PM ASSOCIATED WITH THESE.
9:27:58PM IN MY MIND, THIS IS SIMPLY AN INITIAL STEP OF $20 MILLION IN
9:28:05PM FISCAL YEAR '25, COUNCIL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO
9:28:08PM SOMETHING ELSE.
9:28:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOULD WE COME BACK AND BOND MORE ON TOP OF
9:28:12PM THAT FOR THE SAME STATIONS?
9:28:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE USE BOND REFLECTIVELY.
9:28:18PM WE WOULD ONLY ISSUE A BONA FIDE BOND WHEN WE AMASS ALL THE
9:28:22PM EXPENSES WE THINK WE HAVE.
9:28:23PM WE USE SHORT-TERM DEBT TO GET US THROUGH WHATEVER TIME FRAME
9:28:26PM BASED ON WHEN WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY, WHEN THE ACTIONS CAN
9:28:29PM BE TAKEN FROM A CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION PERSPECTIVE.
9:28:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JEAN, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH $20 MILLION
9:28:37PM IN SHORT-TERM DEBT INSTEAD OF BOND TO BE ABLE TO GET US TO
9:28:41PM 25 AND 26 TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH IN 6, 9,
9:28:44PM 10 AND FLEET SERVICES?
9:28:56PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: JEAN DUNCAN, INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.
9:28:58PM MY APOLOGIES.
9:29:00PM HAVING A SIDEBAR WITH OUR CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:29:02PM IF YOU DON'T MIND, COUNCILMAN, IF YOU COULD REPEAT THE
9:29:05PM QUESTION.
9:29:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT WE'RE HEARING, WE HAVE IMMINENT
9:29:11PM PROBLEMS WITH 6, 9, AND 10.
9:29:13PM 9 IS A MULTIPLIER BECAUSE IT REQUIRES RELOCATION OF FLEET
9:29:17PM SERVICES, SO WE NEED TO DO THAT.
9:29:19PM SO DOES 10.
9:29:21PM RIGHT NOW WHAT'S IN THIS BUDGET THAT'S PROPOSED BY THE MAYOR
9:29:26PM IS THAT THE $663,525, WHICH WOULD BE MONEY TO BORROW $20
9:29:34PM MILLION IN DEBT IN FISCAL YEAR '24, IS THAT SUFFICIENT TO
9:29:39PM GET 6, 9, 10, AND FLEET SERVICES ROLLING IN '24 KNOWING
9:29:45PM YOU'LL COME BACK HERE IN '25 AND HIT US UP AGAIN?
9:29:49PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I CAN SAY CERTAINLY THAT WILL BE ENOUGH TO
9:29:51PM GET SOMETHING ROLLING.
9:29:53PM WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK THAT
9:29:57PM THERE IS A PRIORITIZATION AND STRATEGY HERE.
9:30:00PM I'M SPEAKING FROM A PROJECT MANAGER PERSPECTIVE.
9:30:02PM I DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE ALL THE DETAILS.
9:30:04PM HOWEVER, TO ME, THE FIRST PRIORITY IS THE FLEET MAINTENANCE
9:30:08PM FACILITY AND LOCATION AND LAND FOR THAT.
9:30:10PM BECAUSE ONCE THAT IS IDENTIFIED AND ON THE WAY, THEN THE
9:30:15PM LOGISTICS OF THE OTHER FIRE STATION NEEDS ARE MUCH MORE
9:30:19PM EASILY SOLVED.
9:30:21PM I WOULD AGREE CERTAINLY WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, IF WE CAN
9:30:24PM MAKE THAT A PRIORITY.
9:30:25PM IN THE MEANWHILE, THERE WAS MENTION OF MOLD AND SOME OTHER
9:30:28PM THINGS IN SOME OF THESE FIRE STATIONS.
9:30:30PM WE DO HAVE A LISTING OF ALL THE THINGS WE HAVE DONE RECENTLY
9:30:34PM THAT ARE REHAB ITEMS THAT ARE WITHIN THE REALM OF
9:30:39PM REASONABLENESS, CONSIDERING THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO REBUILD
9:30:42PM AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO ADDRESS THOSE TYPE OF THINGS WHILE
9:30:44PM WE'RE PURSUING THE BIGGER APPROACH OF THE FLEET MAINTENANCE
9:30:49PM LOCATION AND ULTIMATE REBUILDING OF THE STATION.
9:30:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO THIS IS WHAT I'M HEARING NOW.
9:30:55PM WE HAVE TO SOLVE THE FLEET MAINTENANCE FACILITY.
9:30:59PM I THINK THAT WE COULD KIND OF, WITHIN THIS BUDGET ITEM, IT
9:31:02PM SOUNDS TO ME WHAT WE COULD SEE DO IS SINCE WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE
9:31:07PM TO TEAR DOWN A COUPLE OF STATIONS, WHICH MEANS WE GO INTO
9:31:09PM THE DESIGN PHASE AS WELL, WHICH IS TIME-CONSUMING, SO THIS
9:31:12PM MONEY WOULD BE ADEQUATE TO DO EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILWOMAN
9:31:15PM HURTAK SAID, DO THE FLEET MAINTENANCE RELOCATION AND DO ALL
9:31:19PM THAT IN FISCAL YEAR '24, SET THE PLAN, LAND ACQUISITION, GET
9:31:23PM IT GOING, AND WE CAN ALSO START THE DESIGN AND PLANNING FOR
9:31:28PM THE REBUILD, THE DESTRUCTION AND REBUILDING OF THE STATIONS
9:31:33PM OR RELOCATION OF THE STATIONS.
9:31:35PM DESIGN-BUILD.
9:31:36PM WE CAN DO FLEET MAINTENANCE AND THE DESIGN AND RELOCATION
9:31:41PM PLANS FOR THESE OTHER STATIONS, 24.
9:31:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SEE IT AS MORE FOCUSING ON 24 AND FLEET
9:31:50PM THIS YEAR.
9:31:51PM WHILE THEY ARE BEING BUILT NEXT YEAR, FOCUS ON THE DESIGN.
9:31:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEN WE'RE TALKING THE STATIONS WON'T BE
9:31:57PM DONE --
9:31:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD
9:32:00PM ALL FOUR AT ONCE, AND I DID ASK CHIEF TRIPP ABOUT DIVIDING
9:32:06PM UP -- WHAT IS THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR?
9:32:12PM BASICALLY REHOUSE STATIONS AND ONLY WANT TO DO THAT WITH TWO
9:32:18PM STATIONS AT A TIME, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T START 9 UNTIL FLEET IS
9:32:22PM COMPLETELY DONE.
9:32:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE HAVE TO RELOCATE THESE STATIONS
9:32:26PM BECAUSE WE CAN'T TEAR DOWN THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES, WE HAVE
9:32:29PM TO DO LAND ACQUISITION.
9:32:30PM A LOT OF OTHER COMPONENTS WITH THIS DEBT, THIS YEAR FOR '24,
9:32:35PM WE COULD ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THOSE -- THE FIRST LEVEL IN '24
9:32:41PM FOR LAND ACQUISITION, PLAN, DESIGN.
9:32:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OR WE COULD USE SOME CIT MONEY AND NOT GO
9:32:47PM INTO DEBT.
9:32:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WELL, THIS IS THE PERFECT, REBUILDING
9:32:51PM GENERATIONAL FINANCING OF A STATION THAT WE'RE BUILDING IS A
9:32:56PM PERFECT GOOD REASON -- INSTEAD OF THE ONE-OFFS.
9:32:59PM YOU BUILD A STATION THAT IS GOING TO BE, MY GOD, WE HAVE
9:33:01PM ONES THAT ARE A HUNDRED YEARS OLD, RIGHT?
9:33:03PM 30-YEAR LIFE EXPECTANCY, THAT IS A PERFECTLY REASONABLE
9:33:07PM THING TO FINANCE FOR 30 YEARS SO THAT THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE
9:33:10PM COMING TO TAMPA WILL PAY THEIR FAIR PART.
9:33:13PM I THINK THAT IS A REALLY GOOD, BEST DEBT SERVICES, IT IS A
9:33:17PM GOOD WAY TO DO DEBT SERVICES.
9:33:22PM THIS IS NOT A ONE-OFF.
9:33:24PM THIS IS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAVE MULTIYEAR LIFE SPAN.
9:33:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: JUST TO CLARIFY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT
9:33:31PM IS BEING SAID BUT WANT TO CLARIFY.
9:33:33PM NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT BONDING OR ISSUING DEBT SERVICE
9:33:36PM BASED ON THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX FUNDING BECAUSE THAT
9:33:39PM SUNSETS IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.
9:33:40PM THAT WILL BE STRICTLY CASH.
9:33:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK SHE WAS REFERRING TO TAKING CIT
9:33:46PM MONEY TO PAY FOR SOME INSTEAD OF DEBT.
9:33:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ON A CASH BASIS.
9:33:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ANYWHERE WE CAN USE CASH, I THINK WE USE
9:33:54PM CASH.
9:33:55PM SO JUST CONSERVATIVELY, MS. DUNCAN, WHAT CAN WE ACTUALLY
9:34:01PM ACCOMPLISH IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND WHAT DO YOU THINK
9:34:06PM THE COST MIGHT BE?
9:34:07PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I'LL ANSWER THE FIRST PART OF YOUR QUESTION
9:34:09PM FIRST.
9:34:09PM I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT THE PRIORITY AND CHIEF TRIPP AGREES
9:34:14PM WITH ME, THE FLEET MAINTENANCE FACILITY IS A PRIORITY
9:34:16PM BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE LOGISTICS TO
9:34:20PM COME INTO PLACE FOR THE OTHER STATION REBUILDS.
9:34:24PM WE CAN ALSO START THE PROCESS OF CONCEPT DESIGN FOR THOSE
9:34:28PM STATIONS, WHICH WILL INCLUDE SOME TIME-CONSUMING STEPS SUCH
9:34:32PM AS COORDINATING WITH S.H.P.O., WHICH IS THE STATE OFFICE OF
9:34:35PM HISTORIC PRESERVATION, AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE
9:34:38PM HISTORICAL STRUCTURES.
9:34:40PM ADDS A WHOLE OTHER ELEMENT OF TIME AND COMPLEXITY, SO WE CAN
9:34:43PM DO THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN FOR THESE STATIONS AS WE ARE
9:34:47PM DEVELOPING THE ACQUISITION PLANS AND SITE ANALYSIS FOR THE
9:34:53PM FLEET FIRE MAINTENANCE FACILITY.
9:34:55PM WE CAN GET THAT GOING.
9:34:57PM WE WILL GET THAT GOING NEXT YEAR.
9:34:59PM THEN THE OTHER PIECES WILL START TO FALL INTO PLACE FOR THE
9:35:03PM RECONSTRUCTION OF THE OTHER STATIONS.
9:35:04PM IN THE MEANWHILE, WE WOULD DO ANYTHING NECESSARY AND
9:35:08PM REASONABLE TO ENSURE THAT THOSE EXISTING STATIONS ARE SAFE
9:35:12PM FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS IN TERMS OF MOLD AND SO FORTH.
9:35:14PM AND WE HAVE INVESTED A GOOD AMOUNT OF FUNDING IN THOSE
9:35:18PM STATIONS ALREADY TO ENSURE THEIR SAFETY.
9:35:20PM THE SECOND PART ON THE COST, I WOULD JUST HAZARD A GUESS AT
9:35:27PM 20 MILLION IS PROBABLY MORE THAN WE NEED FOR THOSE
9:35:30PM ACTIVITIES.
9:35:31PM BUT REALISTICALLY, I BELIEVE THAT THOSE ARE THE MOST
9:35:34PM ACTIVITIES WE COULD ACCOMPLISH IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
9:35:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT WE COULD ACCOMPLISH IN THE NEXT FISCAL
9:35:41PM YEAR, WHAT WOULD YOUR BEST ESTIMATE BE?
9:35:43PM IF 20 MILLION IS TOO MUCH.
9:35:47PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: GOSH, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE.
9:35:49PM PURCHASING OF LAND IS REALLY A TOUGH --
9:35:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, NO, NO.
9:35:53PM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL PURCHASING, BUT THE FINDING OF
9:35:55PM IT AND ALL OF THAT.
9:35:56PM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE PURCHASE LAND, THAT IS A MUCH
9:36:00PM BIGGER THING, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD GO INTO DEBT
9:36:02PM FOR.
9:36:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK MR. ROGERO SAID THEY WOULD USE
9:36:07PM SHORT-TERM DEBT UNTIL THEY FOUND OUT WHAT THE COSTS WERE AND
9:36:10PM THEN ROLL IT UP INTO LONG-TERM DEBT.
9:36:12PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD DO.
9:36:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PROCEED WITH THE PROPOSED BUDGET -- I
9:36:19PM WOULD LIKE TO MAKE --
9:36:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS HIS HAND UP.
9:36:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I STILL HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
9:36:33PM WHAT I'LL DO -- I WOULD STILL LIKE A MILLION DOLLARS TO GO
9:36:35PM INTO 24 FOR OUR --
9:36:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MILLION DOLLARS FROM WHERE?
9:36:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CIT.
9:36:45PM TO GO INTO 24 JUST TO SHOW EVERYONE WE'RE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT
9:36:48PM IT AND REALLY GET IT GOING AND THEN TO MOVE THE 663,52
9:36:59PM SIMPLY TO FOCUS ON THE -- TO ADD TO THAT DEBT SERVICE THE
9:37:03PM ACQUISITION OF FLEET AND SUPPLY.
9:37:06PM WHOEVER SECONDED THAT, DO YOU ACCEPT -- OKAY, YES.
9:37:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT AND THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN
9:37:14PM HURTAK.
9:37:17PM I THINK WHAT WE SEE HERE IS THE RESULT OF A LOT OF WORK
9:37:21PM THAT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE COUNCIL, TO BE PUBLICLY SALUTED IN
9:37:25PM THAT REGARD.
9:37:25PM I THINK THIS IS A COMPROMISE I'M FINE WITH.
9:37:27PM IN THAT REGARD.
9:37:28PM NOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING IN OCTOBER ON DEBT, RIGHT,
9:37:33PM FOR THESE FIRE STATIONS.
9:37:34PM I'M NOT GOING TO ASK FOR A POLL OF COUNCIL BECAUSE THAT IS
9:37:42PM OBNOXIOUS.
9:37:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GOING TO SUPPORT YOU WHEN THAT COMES
9:37:46PM UP.
9:37:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M GOING TO SUPPORT YOU.
9:37:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE THE VOTES.
9:37:50PM BUT, AGAIN, THIS IS STEP ONE TO THAT.
9:37:53PM NOBODY LIKES TO GO INTO DEBT, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS
9:37:57PM YOU DO GO INTO DEBT FOR AND I WOULD SUGGEST THIS IS ONE OF
9:38:00PM THEM.
9:38:00PM I'M GLAD TO SUPPORT THIS.
9:38:02PM AGAIN, THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:38:03PM APPRECIATE YOU.
9:38:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:38:05PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER --
9:38:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN SHE RESTATE THE MOTION?
9:38:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, MY MOTION AGAIN FOR CLARITY IS TO TAKE
9:38:13PM ONE MILLION FROM THE CIT TO PUT TOWARDS STATION 24 AS OUR
9:38:18PM OLIVE BRANCH AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE GOING TO WORK
9:38:22PM INCREDIBLY HARD ALL YEAR TO GET THIS DONE AS QUICKLY AS
9:38:25PM POSSIBLE, HOPEFULLY GETTING A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND, AND TO
9:38:29PM TAKE THE $663,525 IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY FOR FIRE STATION 6,
9:38:36PM 9, 10 DEBT SERVICE TO ALSO INCLUDE FLEET MAINTENANCE AND
9:38:40PM SUPPLY SO THAT WE CAN GET ALL OF THE PLANNING FOR THESE
9:38:47PM FOUR, FIVE ENTITIES GOING AT ONCE.
9:38:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
9:38:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT PEOPLE TO CONSIDER, WHAT YOU'RE
9:38:55PM ASKING US TO DO, BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY GIVING THEM A $20
9:38:58PM MILLION OLIVE BRANCH WITH POTENTIAL DEBT.
9:39:00PM ALREADY GIVING WITH THE 663 GIVES 20 MILLION.
9:39:06PM YES, IT IS.
9:39:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, IT'S NOT.
9:39:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT YOU'RE DOING, WE'RE
9:39:14PM ALREADY GIVING THEM THAT 663,525 AND YOU'RE TELLING THEM
9:39:21PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET A MILLION DOLLARS' WORTH OF
9:39:23PM VEHICLES.
9:39:23PM SO THEY COULD ACTUALLY, WITHOUT THAT SECOND PART OF THAT
9:39:26PM MOTION, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET THE FULL 20 MILLION POTENTIAL
9:39:29PM OF DEBT SERVICES AND A FULL $8 MILLION IN VEHICLES.
9:39:34PM SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING IS TAKING A MILLION DOLLARS AWAY
9:39:37PM FROM THEM.
9:39:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, WE'RE NOT.
9:39:40PM ACTUALLY, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS -- I MEAN, THEY HAD $12
9:39:44PM MILLION TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM TWO YEARS AGO.
9:39:47PM NOW IT'S COSTING US DOUBLE.
9:39:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RIGHT NOW, WITH THE MOTION THAT YOU'RE
9:39:51PM ASKING FOR, AGAIN, IF WE'RE SUPPORTING THE 663,525 WHICH
9:39:56PM ACCORDING TO MR. ROGERO TELLS US, GIVES US $20 MILLION AND
9:40:00PM POTENTIAL FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR,
9:40:03PM AM I CORRECT?
9:40:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: COULD YOU RESTATE?
9:40:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 663,525, IF THIS COUNCIL APPROVES THAT,
9:40:11PM THAT GIVES YOU POTENTIAL OF $20 MILLION IN DEBT TO BE ABLE
9:40:13PM TO FUND WHAT YOU NEED TO FUND IN FISCAL YEAR '24.
9:40:16PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
9:40:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU MAY USE SHORT-TERM DEBT UNTIL YOU FIND
9:40:21PM THE FULL COST.
9:40:22PM THAT GIVES $20 MILLION OF FLEXIBLE SPENDING IN '24.
9:40:26PM $8 MILLION IN CIT GIVES US $8 MILLION YOU PUT DOWN NOW TO
9:40:31PM LOCK IN THE PRICES OF THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS TODAY.
9:40:33PM IF YOU TAKE A MILLION FROM THAT, YOU'VE ALREADY GOT 20, ARE
9:40:37PM YOU ASKING TO GIVE 21 MILLION?
9:40:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE THAT ONE MILLION WE'RE NOT HAVING TO
9:40:45PM BOND FOR.
9:40:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGAIN, MILLION DOLLARS OF VEHICLES,
9:40:47PM VEHICLE REPLACEMENT.
9:40:48PM THEY ARE GETTING 20 MILLION WITH THE RESOLUTION AS STATED,
9:40:53PM THEY ARE GETTING 20 MILLION PLUS 8 MILLION FOR THE CARS.
9:40:57PM IF YOU DO THAT, THEY ONLY GET 20 MILLION WITH -- PLUS 7
9:41:02PM MILLION FROM VEHICLES.
9:41:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:41:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN A FEW MINUTES, WE'LL DISCUSS THE 2025
9:41:12PM BUDGET.
9:41:13PM LET ME SAY THIS THE 663, WHATEVER THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT,
9:41:17PM THAT IS THE COST JUST TO GO OUT AND SEIZE THE BOND FOR 20
9:41:21PM MILLION, AM I CORRECT?
9:41:23PM >> YES.
9:41:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU'RE PAYING 660 SOME, ALMOST
9:41:28PM THREE-QUARTERS OF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE BONDING PROCESS
9:41:31PM TO GET TO THE 20.
9:41:33PM >> YES, SIR.
9:41:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT
9:41:35PM BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BROUGHT IT UP.
9:41:36PM WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE FEES.
9:41:37PM WE HAVEN'T SPECIFICALLY SAID WHY.
9:41:39PM LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 6, 9, 10, NO ONE HAS TOLD THE
9:41:43PM PUBLIC WHERE 6, 9 AND 10 IS AT.
9:41:45PM I THINK 6 IS IN PALMETTO BEACH, THE LITTLE ONE AND WHERE IS
9:41:50PM 10 AT?
9:41:50PM 9 IS IN CHESTNUT.
9:41:55PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: 6 IS IN PALMETTO BEACH.
9:41:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 9 IS IN CHESTNUT.
9:41:59PM AND 10 --
9:42:00PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: 10 IS IN EAST TAMPA.
9:42:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GOT IT.
9:42:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I CAN --
9:42:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE'RE GOING TO BE BONDING, TAKING THE
9:42:11PM 600 AND SOME ODD THOUSAND TO GET TO $20 MILLION, WHY NOT
9:42:16PM JUST GET THAT 1 MILLION FROM THAT 20 MILLION BOND INSTEAD OF
9:42:19PM TAKING IT FROM THE CIT, WHICH DEPLETES, IT TAKES US A
9:42:24PM MILLION DOLLARS LESS.
9:42:24PM IF THE VEHICLES, THEY CALL US NEXT WEEK AND SAY, HEY, YOUR
9:42:28PM ORDER IS READY.
9:42:29PM WE WANT THE $8 MILLION CHECK AND SAY WE ONLY HAVE 7 MILLION.
9:42:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE MONEY IS ALREADY THERE.
9:42:35PM WHEN WE SAY WE BUY A FIRE TRUCK, WE PUT MONEY IN A BANK
9:42:39PM ACCOUNT AND IT SITS THERE.
9:42:40PM WE'RE NOT HAVING TO COME UP WITH MONEY LATER.
9:42:48PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I THINK EVERYBODY IS DESCRIBING IT
9:42:49PM ACCURATELY JUST DIFFERENTLY.
9:42:50PM IT'S 20 OR $21 MILLION FOR FIRE STATIONS AND 7 OR $8 MILLION
9:42:55PM FOR FIRE VEHICLES.
9:42:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE THE 8 MILLION CASH ON HAND.
9:43:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE DO.
9:43:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS THE THING.
9:43:02PM TAKING MILLION DOLLARS AWAY ALREADY SITTING IN A CHECKING
9:43:05PM ACCOUNT THAT WE CAN WRITE A CHECK TO BUY X VEHICLE IF IT
9:43:09PM BECOMES AVAILABLE, WHENEVER IT BECOMES.
9:43:10PM I KNOW IT'S ON ORDER.
9:43:14PM WHAT HAPPENS IF WE SAY 8 MILLION BILL AND ONLY $7 MILLION TO
9:43:17PM PAY FOR IT, THEN WHAT HAPPENS?
9:43:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU DON'T BOND VEHICLES.
9:43:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WOULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE SAY WE'RE
9:43:26PM GOING TO BUY SOMETHING, WE HAVE TO PUT THAT MONEY IN ESCROW.
9:43:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE'LL ONLY PURCHASE WHAT WE HAVE MONEY
9:43:32PM AVAILABLE TO PURCHASE.
9:43:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF A VEHICLE, ALS VEHICLE IS A MILLION
9:43:37PM DOLLARS, THAT'S NOT THE NUMBER, BUT THAT'S ONE LESS VEHICLE
9:43:41PM THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DELIVER TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
9:43:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CORRECT.
9:43:46PM I THINK THAT'S MAYBE AN ENGINE AND AN AMBULANCE.
9:43:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
9:43:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S A LOT.
9:43:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MILLION DOES NOT BUY YOU AN ENGINE.
9:43:56PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: DOES IT NOT?
9:43:56PM I THOUGHT $700,000.
9:43:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT CAN BE.
9:44:00PM I BELIEVE THAT CHIEF TRIPP TOLD ME IT WAS MORE LIKE 9 TO 1.2
9:44:07PM MILLION.
9:44:07PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: WELL, RESCUE CAR IS UP TO 400,000.
9:44:12PM ENGINE IS RUNNING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 680 TO A MILLION AND, OF
9:44:16PM COURSE, OUR TRUCK COMPANIES ARE 1.5 TO 2.5.
9:44:19PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I THINK WE WERE USING A $750,000 FIGURE FOR
9:44:23PM THE ENGINES.
9:44:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SINCE I HEAR A CALL FOR THE QUESTION IS
9:44:27PM COMING --
9:44:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN FINE, YOU-ALL.
9:44:30PM I'LL TAKE THE ONE MILLION OFF.
9:44:31PM IF THIS IS SUCH A BIG DEAL.
9:44:33PM WHAT THE BIGGER DEAL IS, IS TO GET STATIONS 6, 9, 10, BUT
9:44:39PM MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WANT THE ORDER TO BE FLEET AND SUPPLY
9:44:44PM FOCUSED ON THIS YEAR, THEN LOOKING AT 9, 10, AND 6, BECAUSE
9:44:54PM 9 CAN'T BE DONE UNTIL WE MOVE FLEET.
9:44:57PM 10 CAN'T BE DONE UNTIL, BECAUSE SHE WANTS TO MOVE IT TO
9:45:00PM WHERE SUPPLY IS NOW.
9:45:01PM SO IT'S A DOMINO EFFECT.
9:45:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR LAND
9:45:11PM PROCUREMENT AND DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY COULD DO
9:45:13PM WITHIN THE BUDGETS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PASS AS PRESENTED TO
9:45:16PM COUNCIL.
9:45:16PM I WOULD CALL THE QUESTION.
9:45:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WOULD BE FLEET 9, 10, 6, IN THAT
9:45:20PM PRIORITY ORDER.
9:45:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:45:21PM I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION ON THURSDAY TO HAVE MONTHLY
9:45:26PM UPDATES ON ALL FOUR OF THOSE -- FIVE OF THOSE.
9:45:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT WOULD BE YOUR MOTION?
9:45:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY MOTION IS TO, YOU KNOW, LEAVE THE MONEY
9:45:37PM FOR THE CIT BUT TO TAKE THAT FUNDING FOR 663,525 AND
9:45:44PM PRIORITIZE MOVING -- FINDING FLEET AND SUPPLY, THEN 9, THEN
9:45:51PM 10, THEN 6.
9:45:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
9:45:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALL OF THAT TO BE SPENT WITH THE 20 MILLION
9:45:57PM ALL STARTED THIS YEAR.
9:45:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
9:45:59PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:46:01PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL.
9:46:05PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:46:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M POSITIVE.
9:46:07PM ONLY TALKED ABOUT IT AN HOUR.
9:46:09PM ROLL CALL.
9:46:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO, I LIKE MAKING MY OWN DECISIONS, THANK
9:46:28PM YOU.
9:46:31PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:46:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M GOING TO SAY YES.
9:46:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
9:46:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
9:46:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
9:46:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:46:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
9:46:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
9:46:45PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
9:46:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE?
9:46:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I DO.
9:46:50PM NOTHING THAT LONG.
9:46:51PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS THE CIP THEN TO BE UPDATED TO NO LONGER
9:47:01PM BEING LIKE 2027, NO LONGER HAVING THOSE GAPS.
9:47:06PM SO STATION 24 WAS NOT GOING TO BE BREAKING GROUND UNTIL '26.
9:47:13PM YOU HAVE THAT NICE BIG GAP WHERE FY '25 WAS.
9:47:16PM I WOULD LIKE US TO BE ABLE TO SORT OF TIGHTEN THOSE A LITTLE
9:47:20PM BIT KNOWING WITH WHAT PLANNING WE HAVE COMING AHEAD.
9:47:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEED THAT IN A MOTION OR GOOD WITH THE
9:47:28PM REQUEST?
9:47:29PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: FINANCIAL PERSPECTIVE, WE WOULD DEFER TO
9:47:31PM THE AGENCY CARRYING OUT THE CONSTRUCTION AND IF THE AGENCY
9:47:34PM CAN CONDENSE OR ACCELERATE THAT TIME FRAME, WE'LL ABSOLUTELY
9:47:37PM JUST ADJUST THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
9:47:40PM BUT WE WOULDN'T DO THAT IN A VACUUM.
9:47:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. DUNCAN?
9:47:46PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: JEAN DUNCAN.
9:47:50PM WE CAN COMMIT TO THE MOST ACCELERATED SCHEDULE REASONABLE.
9:47:53PM WHAT WE CAN DO ALSO IS ONCE WE PUT THAT DESIGN OUT ON THE
9:47:58PM STREET, WE GET OUR CONTRACTOR TEAM, WE CAN MAP OUT A VERY
9:48:03PM SPECIFIC SCHEDULE WITH THE GOAL OF CONSTRUCTION IN FY '25.
9:48:08PM SO I CAN'T PROMISE THAT.
9:48:10PM I CAN COMMIT TO THAT.
9:48:11PM AND I CAN TELL YOU ONCE WE HAVE THAT TEAM ON BOARD, THEN
9:48:15PM WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION AND WE CAN MAP OUT A MORE
9:48:18PM SPECIFIC SCHEDULE TO SHARE WITH YOU.
9:48:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
9:48:22PM THAT WILL DO.
9:48:23PM I DON'T NEED A MOTION ON THAT.
9:48:24PM THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANT, WELL, I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT
9:48:28PM THAT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE PAPER AND YOU SAID THAT IT WAS
9:48:32PM A MISTAKE, BUT I WANTED JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT 16
9:48:36PM MILLION IN CIT, 8 MILLION DOES GO TO POLICE AND 8 MILLION
9:48:40PM DOES GO TO FIRE.
9:48:41PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
9:48:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A FINANCIAL
9:48:51PM RESOLUTION OUTLINING THE DEBT ISSUANCE FOR HOUSING USING THE
9:48:54PM 1.7 TO EQUAL 50 MILLION TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
9:49:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THURSDAY.
9:49:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
9:49:02PM I NEED TO MAKE THAT MOTION ON THURSDAY.
9:49:03PM I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.
9:49:05PM THANK YOU.
9:49:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTIONS THAT -- LIKE THAT FOR THURSDAY,
9:49:10PM WE CAN DO IT.
9:49:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO PROBLEM.
9:49:11PM I'M DONE THEN.
9:49:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:49:13PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:49:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WON'T TAKE HOUR AND A HALF.
9:49:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU HAVE 90 MINUTES.
9:49:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THAT CONVERSATION, EVEN THOUGH YOU
9:49:24PM MAY HAVE THOUGHT IT WAS FRUSTRATING, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK
9:49:27PM THAT CONVERSATION WAS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT
9:49:30PM ALL THE STUFF.
9:49:31PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA HAS HAD I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES YOU
9:49:36PM BROUGHT PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN ON THE AGENDA.
9:49:38PM THIS IS THE CONVERSATION WE SHOULD HAVE HAD THEN.
9:49:41PM THE REASON WHY -- WE SHOULDN'T BE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION
9:49:45PM AT THE BUDGET TIME.
9:49:46PM WE NEED TO HAVE IT THEN.
9:49:47PM I WOULD ASK STAFF, CHIEF OF STAFF HERE, I WOULD ASK STAFF,
9:49:51PM THIS IS THE KIND OF CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE AROUND
9:49:54PM THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN.
9:49:55PM WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE BOUGHT AND HOW AND
9:49:58PM THE STRATEGY.
9:49:59PM IT'S NOT SIMPLE BUBBLES BUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE PRIORITIZED.
9:50:02PM CHIEF TRIPP AND/OR NICK STOCCO, JUST A SHORT ANSWER.
9:50:10PM CAN YOU JUST TELL ME -- WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT NORTH, SOUTH
9:50:16PM -- SORRY, NORTH, EAST, AND WEST.
9:50:19PM CAN YOU JUST TELL ME REAL FAST WHAT WE NEED IN SOUTH TAMPA,
9:50:22PM HOW MANY NEW STATIONS DO WE NEED IN SOUTH TAMPA?
9:50:25PM DO YOU WANT NICK TO DO IT?
9:50:31PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: BARBARA TRIPP, FIRE CHIEF, TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
9:50:35PM IF PRESIDENT STOCCO COME UP HERE HE PROBABLY TELL US WE NEED
9:50:39PM TEN STATIONS DOWN SOUTH.
9:50:40PM I WOULD LIKE TO RUN THE NUMBERS AND GET BACK WITH YOU AND
9:50:43PM LET YOU KNOW.
9:50:45PM SINCE WE ADDED THE ADDITIONAL ALS TRANSPORT UNIT, THE CALL
9:50:49PM VOLUME FOR THE ONE STATION THAT'S BEEN DOWN THERE, STATION
9:50:52PM 15, HAS DROPPED 20%, WHICH HAS BEEN GREAT.
9:50:56PM THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEEDED.
9:50:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TEN STATION AROUND ME SO THEY CAN
9:51:01PM SAVE ME.
9:51:02PM NICK, CAN YOU GIVE US A QUICK ANSWER?
9:51:03PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE RECORD THAT WE TALK ABOUT
9:51:06PM WHAT SOUTH TAMPA NEEDS ALSO.
9:51:08PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
9:51:09PM NICK STOCCO, TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS.
9:51:11PM THE ADDITION TO STATION 19 DOWN IN THE SOUTH GANDY AREA WITH
9:51:17PM THE RESCUE UNIT WAS A HUGE NEED AND THANK YOU TO THE
9:51:20PM ADMINISTRATION FOR ADDING THAT UNIT THERE.
9:51:21PM WE SEE THE GROWTH THAT'S ON WESTSHORE AND GANDY AS WELL AS
9:51:24PM THE WATER THAT'S COVERED BY THIS, ALL PURPOSE RESPONSE
9:51:30PM DEPARTMENT HAVING A STATION WITH EMERGENCY RESPONSE
9:51:35PM VEHICLES, SPECIFICALLY WATER VESSELS THAT CAN RAPIDLY DEPLOY
9:51:38PM TO COVER THE BAY AREA THERE WOULD BE A VERY, VERY
9:51:41PM OFFICIAL --
9:51:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: HE AND I LIVE NEAR EACH OTHER, THE ONE NEAR
9:51:48PM OUR HOUSES, YOU HAVE TO GET IN THE BIG TRUCK AND GO TO THE
9:51:52PM MARINA AND GET IN THE BOAT AND LEAVE.
9:51:54PM THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AND LEAVES OUR AREA NOT COVERED.
9:51:57PM THE POINT IS WE NEED HELP IN SOUTH TAMPA ALSO.
9:52:00PM I'M AGAINST BONDING.
9:52:01PM I AGREE WITH MR. SCAGLIONE THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE BONDING.
9:52:06PM WE DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT GET ANYWHERE NEAR THE CAPACITY.
9:52:11PM DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE?
9:52:12PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT.
9:52:13PM WE PUT IN FOR A GRANT FROM THE STATE, FEDERAL GRANT, THAT
9:52:18PM ACTUALLY GAVE US -- I WANTED TO CREATE LIKE A MARINE-TYPE
9:52:23PM RESCUE FOR DOWN THERE TO DEPLOY TO GET JET SKIS FOR STATION
9:52:28PM 19 AND MAKE THAT A TYPICAL MARINE DIVISION SINCE HE BROUGHT
9:52:31PM UP ABOUT THE BOATS.
9:52:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL VOLUNTEER FOR THE RIDE-ALONG ON THAT
9:52:35PM ONE.
9:52:35PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: WE DID GET A GRANT.
9:52:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S EXCELLENT.
9:52:39PM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLANNING, PLEASE
9:52:42PM BRING ALL THIS UP BECAUSE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
9:52:44PM I'M AGAINST BONDING IN GENERAL AND I'LL LOOK A LOT MORE
9:52:49PM CLOSELY TO THAT GOING FORWARD.
9:52:50PM I WANT TO MAKE MOTIONS ANOTHER TIME ABOUT HOW TO HAVE MORE
9:52:53PM TRANSPARENCY INTO THAT PROCESS AND MORE LINE OF SIGHT.
9:52:55PM BUT I THINK THAT BONDING FIRE STATIONS SAVES PEOPLE'S LIVES.
9:53:00PM IT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT IS MORE THAN 30 YEARS, SO IT'S
9:53:04PM JUSTIFIABLE TO PUT IN THAT.
9:53:05PM WE HAVE AREAS THAT NEED TO BE COVERED.
9:53:07PM I'M NOT MAKING A MOTION.
9:53:08PM I THINK WE NEED TO COVER THAT.
9:53:10PM ALSO SEPARATELY, MR. ROGERO, CAN YOU JUST -- CAN YOU LET US
9:53:17PM KNOW, I THINK THE CHAIR MADE A MOTION ABOUT THE 7 MILLION,
9:53:20PM SORRY IF IT WASN'T HIM.
9:53:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, CLENDENIN.
9:53:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: CLENDENIN MADE THE MOTION 7 MILLION FROM
9:53:25PM PARKING THAT WILL GO INTO ROADS.
9:53:26PM CAN YOU CONFIRM THE 7 MILLION PLUS 4.1, SO IT IS A TOTAL OF
9:53:30PM 11 MILLION.
9:53:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
9:53:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: PREVIOUS YEARS ONLY 4.1 MILLION.
9:53:36PM NOW IT IS AN ADDITIONAL 7 MILLION.
9:53:37PM ANYBODY WHO IS WONDERING ABOUT ROADS, THAT'S THE MOST
9:53:40PM COMPLAINTS I GET, IT IS AN ADDITIONAL 7 MILLION NOW THAT WE
9:53:43PM HAVE GOING INTO ROADS.
9:53:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALMOST TRIPLE.
9:53:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYWAY.
9:53:46PM THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:53:48PM ON HOUSING, IS NICOLE STILL HERE?
9:53:51PM I WANT TO SAY WHILE SHE'S WALKING UP, WE HAVE CAMPS -- WE
9:53:56PM DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBERS BUT UP TO 300 PEOPLE LIVE IN
9:54:00PM THE FOREST IN SOUTH TAMPA.
9:54:03PM THERE ARE CAMPS RIGHT NEXT TO MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE AND
9:54:07PM CHIEF OF STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER A WHOLE COALITION, INCLUDING
9:54:10PM CODE ENFORCEMENT, POLICE, HOUSING, AND JUST SO FOLKS KNOW,
9:54:14PM ALSO CHIEF OF STAFF WAS IN CHARGE OF TEMPORARY HOUSING IN
9:54:18PM PINELLAS COUNTY, AND HE'S WORKED REALLY HARD WITH CATHOLIC
9:54:21PM CHARITIES AND OTHERS TO SET UP TEMPORARY HOUSING AND HE'S
9:54:24PM IMPROVING THOSE SITUATIONS AND WORKING WITH MULTIPLE SERVICE
9:54:27PM AGENCIES.
9:54:27PM SO WE'RE TRYING TO TRANSITION FOLKS OUT, BUT IF PEOPLE THINK
9:54:32PM THAT HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE ONLY IN DOWNTOWN, THEY ARE NOT.
9:54:34PM THEY ARE ALL OVER SOUTH TAMPA ALSO.
9:54:36PM AND ONCE THEY MOVE OUT OF ONE PARK, THEY GO INTO ANOTHER.
9:54:39PM SO IT IS A CITYWIDE ISSUE.
9:54:42PM IT IS A NATIONAL ISSUE AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT.
9:54:45PM COULD YOU TELL US -- I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
9:54:49PM COULD YOU TELL US WHAT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUDGET WAS IN
9:54:51PM 2018 OR 2019?
9:54:53PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WELL, I THINK -- NICOLE TRAVIS,
9:54:59PM ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
9:55:01PM THE QUESTION YOU WERE ASKING IS HOW MUCH FUNDS WERE GIVEN
9:55:05PM FROM GENERAL FUND BEFORE THAT, AND THIS ADMINISTRATION WAS
9:55:08PM THE FIRST ADMINISTRATION TO DEDICATE GENERAL FUND MONEY TO
9:55:12PM HOUSING, AND I BELIEVE FISCAL YEAR 2022 WAS THE FIRST YEAR
9:55:17PM THAT WE GOT FUNDING.
9:55:18PM IT WAS $5.5 MILLION THAT YEAR.
9:55:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: BEFORE THAT, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS,
9:55:23PM ANYBODY -- I'M SORRY EVERYBODY LEFT THAT WAS INTERESTED IN
9:55:26PM HOUSING, BEFORE 2021 OR '22, FROM THE GENERAL FUND, IT WAS
9:55:30PM ZERO.
9:55:30PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S CORRECT.
9:55:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN THIS ADMINISTRATION BROUGHT IN 5.5
9:55:36PM MILLION.
9:55:38PM HOPE SPENT TEN YEARS GETTING $10 MILLION A YEAR FROM THE
9:55:41PM COUNTY.
9:55:42PM SO THE ADMINISTRATION WITH THE SUPPORT FROM CITY COUNCIL,
9:55:44PM BUT THE ADMINISTRATION PUT IN 5.5, RIGHT?
9:55:47PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S CORRECT.
9:55:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MUCH DID WE PUT IN LAST YEAR?
9:55:51PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SO WE GOT $5.5 MILLION FOR PROGRAM BUT ALSO
9:55:56PM AN INFUSION OF $4 MILLION LAST YEAR FOR THE RENTAL
9:56:02PM ASSISTANCE, BUT THAT'S NOT REOCCURRING MONEY.
9:56:04PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR.
9:56:06PM THERE WAS AN INFUSION OF $4 MILLION FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE AT
9:56:10PM THE CRUX --
9:56:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MUCH WENT INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FROM
9:56:13PM THE CITY LAST YEAR?
9:56:14PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: LET ME DO THE MATH.
9:56:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE 25 MILLION?
9:56:23PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: OF GENERAL FUND MONEY BUT ALSO $16 MILLION
9:56:26PM OF ARPA FUNDS THAT WE WERE -- THAT WAS DEDICATED TO --
9:56:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS THE TOTAL FROM THE
9:56:33PM CITY INCLUDING THE ARPA FUNDING?
9:56:39PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: 25 PLUS THE ARPA.
9:56:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE POINT I'M MAKING --
9:56:43PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: INCLUDING ARPA.
9:56:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: UNTIL THIS ADMINISTRATION, THERE WAS ZERO
9:56:48PM FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:56:49PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S CORRECT.
9:56:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: TWO YEARS AGO, 5.5 MILLION.
9:56:52PM THE LAST YEAR IT WENT TO 25 MILLION.
9:56:54PM TO EVERYBODY WHO CAME, ROBIN LOCKETT IS STILL HERE LATE AT
9:56:58PM NIGHT BUT SHE AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN COMING BEFORE US ASKING
9:57:01PM FOR MORE MONEY.
9:57:02PM IN TWO YEARS, WE PUT IN FIVE TIMES AS MUCH.
9:57:06PM CITY COUNCIL SITTING AS CRA BOARD ALSO VOTED THREE YEARS AGO
9:57:10PM TO PUT 30%, AGAIN HEARING PUBLIC FEEDBACK, 30% OF CRA MONEY
9:57:15PM INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:57:15PM SO HOW MUCH WAS ALLOCATED FOR THAT LAST YEAR?
9:57:18PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE HAVE $20 MILLION THAT'S ROLLING OVER
9:57:21PM JUST FOR HOUSING LAST YEAR, AND THEN WHEN YOU APPROVED THE
9:57:25PM BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR '24, IT WAS $19 MILLION FOR
9:57:30PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:57:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR CRA.
9:57:31PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: FOR CRA.
9:57:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: 26 PLUS 20, RIGHT?
9:57:36PM WE WENT FROM ZERO TWO, THREE YEARS AGO TO 5.5 MILLION TO
9:57:41PM LIKE 50 MILLION.
9:57:43PM SO THE POINT I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND AND ROBIN, MAYBE
9:57:46PM YOU CAN HELP US, WE NEED, AS NATHAN SAID, WE NEED LIKE $8
9:57:52PM BILLION.
9:57:52PM BUT WE'VE DONE -- WE WENT FROM ZERO TO 5 MILLION AND THEN
9:57:57PM TEN TIMES THAT LAST YEAR.
9:57:59PM WE ARE LISTENING.
9:58:00PM IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE NOT LISTENING.
9:58:01PM TO EVERYBODY WHO WANTS US TO SPEND MONEY, PLEASE WORK WITH
9:58:05PM US BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO FIND MORE BUCKETS OF MONEY BUT
9:58:07PM SQUEEZING EVERYWHERE WE CAN TO PUT MORE MONEY AND YOU SEE
9:58:10PM THE VOTES WE HAD TONIGHT.
9:58:11PM I THINK THAT WE NEED TO SHIFT MORE OF THAT MONEY TO HOME
9:58:14PM OWNERSHIP INSTEAD OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
9:58:17PM WE WENT -- WE'VE GONE THROUGH A CRISIS.
9:58:20PM STILL A CRISIS.
9:58:20PM ONLY TWO WAYS TO GET OUT OF IT.
9:58:22PM ONE IS TO HELP PEOPLE BUY HOMES AND SHIFT MORE TO THAT.
9:58:26PM WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY IS COMPETITIVELY
9:58:31PM BID.
9:58:31PM IN THE PAST, THE CITY WAS ACCUSED OF NOT COMPETITIVELY
9:58:34PM BIDDING TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.
9:58:37PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE -- ANOTHER ISSUE FOR ANOTHER DAY.
9:58:42PM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY, THIS IS STATE LAW, BUT WE NEED TO
9:58:45PM CHANGE IT SO THEY ARE NOT COMPETING WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
9:58:48PM WE NEED TO SEPARATE THE GRANT-MAKING AUTHORITY FROM THE
9:58:52PM DEVELOPER SIDE OF IT BECAUSE WE NEED TO DISBURSE THAT MONEY.
9:58:56PM THE MORE WE CAN PARTNER WITH NONPROFITS AND FOR-PROFITS, THE
9:58:59PM MORE WE CAN SPREAD THE MONEY TO GET MORE MADE.
9:59:02PM THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SAY, VERY CLEAR, ECONOMICS 101,
9:59:07PM HAD WE APPROVED, HAD WE APPROVED THE TAX INCREASE TWO WEEKS
9:59:13PM AGO, POTENTIALLY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF
9:59:16PM THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN PASSED DIRECTLY ON
9:59:19PM TO RENTERS.
9:59:20PM 100%, THEY ARE NOT PROTECTED.
9:59:22PM THE RENTERS ARE MOSTLY NOT PROTECTED BY HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.
9:59:25PM COULD HAVE BEEN 10% OR MORE INCREASE.
9:59:28PM THE RENTAL RATES WOULD HAVE GONE UP AND PEOPLE WOULD HAVE
9:59:30PM BEEN KICKED OUT OF THEIR HOMES.
9:59:33PM A LOT OF THE INDIVIDUAL RENTAL UNITS ARE OWNED BY, OR RENTAL
9:59:38PM UNITS ARE OWNED BY INDIVIDUALS.
9:59:40PM AND ALL OF THEM, INCLUDING THE BIG FOLKS, TOLD ME THEY WOULD
9:59:43PM PASS ON ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS.
9:59:46PM I SEE TURNING DOWN THE TAX AS SAVING THE ECONOMY.
9:59:50PM WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS BE IN THE POSITION WHERE WE CAUSE
9:59:53PM PEOPLE TO BE FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THEIR RENTAL
9:59:56PM RATES WENT UP BECAUSE WE INCREASED TAXES.
9:59:58PM WE INCREASE TAXES AGAIN SO WE CAN SUBSIDIZE PEOPLE PAYING
10:00:02PM FOR HIGHER TAXES.
10:00:03PM THE OTHER THING, THE MOST IMPORTANT WAY WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO
10:00:06PM AFFORD THEIR HOMES IS BY HELPING THEM WITH BETTER JOBS.
10:00:08PM YOU ALL SAW TAMPA SCORECARD.COM, CLEARLY SINCE THE GREAT
10:00:12PM RECESSION 12 YEARS AGO, THE ECONOMIC POLICIES IN OUR
10:00:15PM COMMUNITY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICIES HAVE NOT BEEN
10:00:18PM WORKING.
10:00:18PM WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS INSTEAD OF $20 AN HOUR, PEOPLE NEED
10:00:22PM TO BE EARNING MORE.
10:00:23PM WE DO THAT THROUGH BETTER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:00:25PM I WOULD ASK -- DENNIS TELL ME HOW IT'S LISTED.
10:00:31PM I FORGOT.
10:00:32PM MY BRAIN IS FRIED HERE LATE AT NIGHT.
10:00:34PM I THINK THERE'S STILL A LINE ITEM FOR THE EDC.
10:00:37PM I DON'T WANT TO FIGHT THE EDC FIGHT TONIGHT.
10:00:39PM I HAVE A LOT OF DOCUMENTATION I'LL BRING BACK WHEN WE TALK
10:00:41PM ABOUT THEIR CONTRACT.
10:00:43PM WE NEGOTIATED IT TWO YEARS AGO AND THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW ANY OF
10:00:45PM THE REQUESTS THAT WE PUT INTO THE CONTRACT.
10:00:48PM TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE WHATEVER
10:00:50PM LINE ITEM SAYS EDC TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:00:54PM CHANGE IT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THAT GIVES US A CHANCE TO
10:00:58PM TALK TO NICOLE ABOUT OTHER STRATEGIES.
10:01:00PM IT COULD GO TO THE EDC IF THE MAJORITY WANT AT SOME POINT OR
10:01:05PM GO TO SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE AN IN-HOUSE DEPARTMENT WITH
10:01:08PM NICOLE.
10:01:08PM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
10:01:11PM CHANGE THE TERM EDC TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:01:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:01:17PM CARLSON.
10:01:18PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:01:19PM DO WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION?
10:01:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:01:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
10:01:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE EDC IS AN OUTSIDE NONPROFIT
10:01:26PM ORGANIZATION THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS, CORRECT?
10:01:28PM >> YES.
10:01:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU DON'T WANT
10:01:31PM THE FUNDS TO BE ALLOCATED DIRECTLY TO THEM, THAT WE WOULD
10:01:34PM DECIDE AT A LATER DATE WHO IT WOULD GO TO.
10:01:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: THEIR CONTRACT IS UP FOR RENEWAL.
10:01:40PM IT IS A TWO-YEAR CONTRACT.
10:01:42PM WE CAN DECIDE AT THAT TIME WHETHER WE WANT THE MONEY TO GO
10:01:45PM TO THEM OR NOT.
10:01:46PM LIKE IF WE SAY WE WANT THE MONEY TO GO TO HOUSING, WE'RE NOT
10:01:49PM DICTATING WHICH HOUSING IT GOES TO OR WHICH COMPANY.
10:01:53PM LATER ON WE'LL APPROVE THAT.
10:01:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN YOU SPEAK ON THAT?
10:01:58PM BECAUSE I MET WITH THEM.
10:02:01PM I'M TRYING TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION.
10:02:04PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I THINK WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS SAYING
10:02:08PM CHANGE THE LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET.
10:02:09PM INSTEAD OF SAYING THAT IT IS DESIGNATED FOR THE ECONOMIC
10:02:14PM DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, THAT IT WOULD JUST BE ECONOMIC
10:02:16PM DEVELOPMENT, GIVING YOU THE FLEXIBILITY TO CONSIDER THE
10:02:20PM EDC'S CONTRACT.
10:02:23PM IT'S NOT LOCKING YOU IN JUST TO THE EDC CONTRACT I THINK IS
10:02:26PM WHAT HE'S SAYING.
10:02:27PM IF IT IS LISTED AS A LINE ITEM AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
10:02:31PM COUNCIL IS LOCKING YOU IN TO SPEND THE MONEY ONLY WITH THE
10:02:35PM EDC.
10:02:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ISN'T THAT SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY DO,
10:02:37PM WE'RE LOCKED INTO CONTRACTS FOR SOCIAL ACTION.
10:02:42PM AGREEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:02:43PM THIS IS NORMAL BEHAVIOR, A NORMAL PATTERN OF DECISION MAKING
10:02:51PM IN CITY COUNCIL, WOULD YOU SAY THAT, MR. ROGERO, ON --
10:02:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S UP THIS YEAR, THOUGH.
10:02:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I UNDERSTAND.
10:02:59PM I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I MAKE THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE
10:03:02PM BECAUSE THE FUNDING IS UP FOR SOCIAL ACTION THIS YEAR, TOO,
10:03:05PM AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2023, WE'RE DECIDING FOR 2024
10:03:09PM IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THESE OTHER PEOPLE FUNDS.
10:03:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO.
10:03:15PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: JUST TO CLARIFY, THE EDC, OR THE FUNDING
10:03:18PM IDENTIFIED FOR EDC IS NOT PART OF THE SOCIAL ACTION -- BUT I
10:03:23PM UNDERSTAND YOUR COMPARISON, YES.
10:03:25PM FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT IS ENTIRELY UP TO COUNCIL HOW YOU
10:03:29PM DESIGNATE THAT PARTICULAR LINE TEAM AND WHAT THAT FUNDING IS
10:03:32PM USED FOR.
10:03:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL WE'RE DOING IS DESIGNATING AS ECONOMIC
10:03:36PM DEVELOPMENT AND DECIDE AT A LATER DATE.
10:03:38PM OKAY, I CAN ROLL WITH THAT.
10:03:40PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
10:03:41PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
10:03:43PM IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, THE EDC'S CONTRACT IS DUE AT THE END OF
10:03:51PM SEPTEMBER, SO IT IS UP FOR RENEGOTIATION TO COME BACK BEFORE
10:03:57PM COUNCIL.
10:03:58PM SO YOU WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO CONSIDER THAT NOW.
10:04:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE EDC, ANYTHING THAT IS SAID UP HERE ON
10:04:07PM THE DAIS, I START DOING MY RESEARCH.
10:04:09PM I DO KNOW THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS ALREADY, YOU KNOW,
10:04:12PM DOESN'T WANT THE EDC TO EXIST AS A PART OF ANYTHING.
10:04:18PM IN GENERAL HE'S MADE THAT STATEMENT.
10:04:20PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT --
10:04:25PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THIS DOESN'T PRECLUDE THAT.
10:04:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ISOLATED CONVERSATION OR --
10:04:30PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
10:04:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I KNOW.
10:04:37PM I LISTEN TO EVERYONE.
10:04:38PM HE LIKES TO ELIMINATE THINGS EVEN BEFORE WE MAKE DECISIONS.
10:04:43PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IS GETTING THEIR FAIR
10:04:45PM SHAKE.
10:04:45PM I CAN ROLL WITH IT BEING A LINE ITEM FOR JUST ECONOMIC
10:04:49PM DEVELOPMENT.
10:04:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE SHOULD KEEP A MEMBERSHIP IN THE
10:04:52PM EDC.
10:04:53PM I THINK THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF MEMBERSHIP IS 50,000.
10:04:55PM I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE THAT.
10:04:57PM THAT IS AN ARGUMENT FOR ANOTHER DAY.
10:04:58PM I HAVE A LOT OF DATA.
10:04:59PM IF YOU GUYS VOTE FOR IT, THAT'S UP TO YOU.
10:05:02PM RIGHT NOW IT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY SO WE'RE NOT LOCKED
10:05:05PM IN.
10:05:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE I START CHANGING THREE LETTERS AND
10:05:08PM FUNDING THREE LETTERS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
10:05:10PM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THE RETURN OF THE DOLLAR HAS BEEN
10:05:13PM AND WHAT THE OTHERS ARE TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT THEIR
10:05:17PM PERSPECTIVE IS.
10:05:17PM WHAT I SEE HERE, LOOKING FOR A CHANGE IN SOMETHING.
10:05:21PM THE CONTRACT, DOESN'T TAKE A GENIUS -- NOW IS THE TIME TO GO
10:05:27PM AFTER THAT.
10:05:27PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:05:28PM BUT I WANT TO SEE THE WHOLE THING.
10:05:30PM I WANT TO SEE THE MONIES THAT THEY HAVE DONE AND WHAT
10:05:32PM THEY'VE GONE AND WHAT THE COST HAS BEEN BEFORE I MAKE ANY
10:05:36PM DECISION, CHANGING ANY OF THE LETTERS FROM ABC, TO CDE,
10:05:39PM WHATEVER, XYZ.
10:05:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OTHER RFPs THAT COME UP, OTHER
10:05:45PM ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE EDC THAT DO THE SAME THING PRESENTING
10:05:49PM TO US?
10:05:50PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I'M NOT PRESENTING --
10:05:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APOLOGIZE.
10:05:54PM IT WAS A THOUGHT PROCESS.
10:05:55PM NICOLE, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ANSWER IT.
10:06:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:06:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU KNOW I HAD TO.
10:06:03PM A QUESTION ABOUT THE EDC.
10:06:07PM SEPTEMBER OF '24 THIS CONTRACT IS DUE?
10:06:11PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NO, CONTRACT IS UP SEPTEMBER 30 OF 2023.
10:06:14PM THE END OF THIS MONTH.
10:06:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS TODAY.
10:06:19PM THE PAYMENT FOR THE EDC WOULD BE DUE?
10:06:26PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THERE IS A STRUCTURE.
10:06:28PM I DIDN'T INTEND ON SPEAKING IN DETAIL ABOUT THE EDC CONTRACT
10:06:33PM THIS EVENING, SO I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
10:06:35PM THEY HAVE TO INVOICE US.
10:06:38PM THEY INVOICE US.
10:06:40PM I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT'S MONTHLY OR -- THANK YOU ALIS.
10:06:44PM MR. DRUMGO SAID IT IS QUARTERLY.
10:06:47PM THEY INVOICE US QUARTERLY.
10:06:51PM THERE IS AN INVOICE WHICH IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR
10:06:54PM CONTRACT.
10:06:55PM THAT'S NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION.
10:06:56PM WE HAVE A CONTRACT IN PLACE, BUT MOVING FORWARD IT'S PAID
10:07:00PM QUARTERLY.
10:07:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I PROBABLY WILL SUPPORT COUNCILMAN
10:07:03PM CARLSON'S MOTION BECAUSE I SUPPORT HAVING THE FLEXIBILITY IN
10:07:06PM THE HOUSING FUNDS FOR THE WHAT-IFS, SO IT MAKES SENSE TO ME,
10:07:10PM I MAY SUPPORT THE EDC WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO MAKING THAT CALL
10:07:14PM FOR THE QUESTION, HAVING THAT LATITUDE, IT MAKES SENSE TO
10:07:18PM ME, SO, YEAH.
10:07:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:07:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY BRIEFLY, THE WAY I SEE THIS IS MERELY A
10:07:24PM MATTER OF TERMS AND DEFINITIONS, AND WE COULD PUT IN THE EDC
10:07:28PM CORRECT AND VOTE NO ON THE CONTRACT.
10:07:30PM WE COULD PUT IT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND VOTE NO ON THE
10:07:33PM CONTRACT.
10:07:33PM SO I SEE THIS AS A MATTER OF TERMS THAT WOULD BE AS A
10:07:39PM PROFESSIONAL COURTESY TO A COLLEAGUE WHO HAS STRONG FEELINGS
10:07:42PM AND HAS NO BEARING ON WHETHER OR NOT WE VOTE YES OR NO ON IT
10:07:46PM EITHER WAY.
10:07:49PM WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING AND NO ONE TELLING ME I'M WRONG IN
10:07:51PM THAT REGARD ON SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BOXED IN BY THIS
10:07:54PM DEFINITION, I'M FINE WITH THIS AND WE SHOULD VOTE.
10:07:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:07:59PM POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
10:08:00PM HOW LONG DID THAT CONTRACT LAST?
10:08:01PM YEAR, TWO YEARS?
10:08:03PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: TWO YEARS.
10:08:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DID THIS COUNCIL VOTE ON THAT CONTRACT?
10:08:08PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, THE COUNCIL VOTED ON THE CONTRACT,
10:08:12PM YES.
10:08:12PM THERE WAS SOME NEGOTIATION.
10:08:18PM PREDATED ME.
10:08:20PM SOME NEGOTIATION, CONCESSIONS MADE.
10:08:21PM IT IS A BINDING CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
10:08:27PM EDC ON.
10:08:28PM IF I MAY ANSWER THE QUESTION, EARLIER YOU ASKED IF THERE ARE
10:08:31PM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET, WAS ALSO A
10:08:36PM REQUEST FOR PROSPERO OF AMERICA WHICH IS A -- SORRY, IT'S
10:08:44PM LATE -- WHICH HELPS MINORITY HISPANIC BUSINESSES.
10:08:49PM SO IT'S NOT THE SAME AS THE EDC, BUT THERE IS MONEY IN THE
10:08:52PM BUDGET WITH THAT REQUEST AND ALSO FOR TAMPA BAY WAVE, THERE
10:08:55PM IS MONEY IN THE BUDGET WITH A REQUEST TO SUPPORT THOSE
10:08:58PM ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP WITH THE ECONOMIC ENGINE OF OUR
10:09:05PM COMMUNITY.
10:09:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IF THERE IS AN INVOICE ON YOUR DESK AND
10:09:10PM MAYBE FORMALITY, WHEN WOULD THEY --
10:09:14PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: INVOICE DOESN'T COME TO YOU.
10:09:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOT THE INVOICE BUT IF THERE WAS AN
10:09:19PM OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO AN OUTSIDE ORGANIZATION,
10:09:21PM THIS ONE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US.
10:09:24PM IT'S NOT A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM, IS IT?
10:09:27PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NO, NO.
10:09:28PM THIS WOULD NOT COME BACK TO YOU BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR
10:09:31PM AMOUNT, THE THRESHOLD.
10:09:33PM THE DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT I JUST
10:09:36PM NAMED OFF TO YOU IS LESS THAN THE THRESHOLD THAT NORMALLY
10:09:40PM COMES TO COUNCIL.
10:09:41PM SO THE EDC CONTRACT IS A LARGER DOLLAR AMOUNT, AND IT'S
10:09:47PM CONTRACTUALLY BINDING.
10:09:48PM SO, YES.
10:09:49PM ALL CONTRACTS --
10:09:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:09:55PM CARLSON WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:09:57PM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:10:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:10:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:10:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:10:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:10:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:10:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:10:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
10:10:09PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
10:10:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. ROGERO, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT EVENTS.
10:10:19PM THERE WERE SEVERAL EVENTS LIKE THE RIVER OF GREEN THAT WERE
10:10:23PM SUGGESTED.
10:10:23PM ARE WE PUTTING ANY MONEY IN THOSE EVENTS?
10:10:26PM I KNOW THERE ARE SOME SIGNATURE EVENTS THAT THE MAYOR DOES
10:10:29PM THAT I THINK WE SHOULD FUND.
10:10:31PM THE OTHER EVENTS LIKE THAT, IS THERE ANY SAVINGS?
10:10:34PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE HAVE NOT DECREASED ANY FUNDING FOR
10:10:36PM EVENTS.
10:10:36PM HOWEVER, BASED ON COUNCIL'S INPUT, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK
10:10:40PM DURING FISCAL YEAR '24 AT EITHER RECOUPING COSTS, VERY
10:10:45PM SIMILAR TO OUR REVIEW OF THE SOCIAL ACTION AND ARTS FUND.
10:10:48PM BUT, NO, IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY ARE NO REDUCTIONS TO SPECIAL
10:10:50PM EVENTS.
10:10:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: DID YOU ALL FIGURE OUT -- ONE OF THE THINGS
10:10:53PM WE PUT ON THE BOARD LAST TIME, SEVERAL FOLKS MENTIONED IT
10:10:56PM BEFORE I DID, EVENTS THAT WE'RE PUTTING ON, DO YOU HAVE ANY
10:11:00PM IDEA, LIKE SEVERAL FOLKS MENTIONED RIVER OF GREEN, HOW MUCH
10:11:05PM IN-KIND IN CASH DO WE PUT IN AN EVENT?
10:11:09PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MAYBE --
10:11:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE CITY IS NOT PAYING ANYTHING.
10:11:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TURN ON YOUR MIKE.
10:11:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GO AHEAD.
10:11:18PM I'LL LET HER ANSWER.
10:11:21PM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND
10:11:24PM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
10:11:24PM YOU GUYS KNOW BY NOW THIS IS MY SLEEPY VOICE, RIGHT?
10:11:28PM SO WHAT WE HAVE, TWO EVENTS IN PARTICULAR.
10:11:33PM ONE IS RIVER OF GREEN AND THIS IS THE PARKS AND RECREATION
10:11:38PM COST, $20,000 AND BOOM BY THE BAY IS OUR COST IS 60,000
10:11:46PM DOLLARS.
10:11:46PM THOSE EVENTS ARE PRIMARILY SUBSIDIZED OR PRODUCED BY THE
10:11:52PM DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
10:11:55PM SO THEY ASSUME THE LARGE MAJORITY OF THE COST.
10:11:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: USING SSD MONEY FOR IT, NOT GETTING
10:12:02PM SPONSORSHIPS?
10:12:03PM >>OCEA WYNN: THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP, I DON'T KNOW WHAT
10:12:07PM THEY ARE USING TO PAY FOR THEIR PORTION OF THE EVENT.
10:12:09PM THOSE ARE OUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE EVENTS.
10:12:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK EVENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF A MAYOR
10:12:15PM WANTS TO HAVE A SIGNATURE EVENT, THAT'S FINE.
10:12:17PM EVEN $20,000, I WON'T MAKE THE MOTION ON IT, BUT IF SOMEBODY
10:12:23PM ELSE DOES SINCE SOMEBODY ELSE MENTIONED BEFORE, STILL 20,000
10:12:27PM WE CAN PUT INTO HOUSING.
10:12:29PM WHILE YOU'RE STILL UP THERE, 125,000 FOR ONE PICKLEBALL
10:12:37PM COURT.
10:12:37PM IS IT WORTH MAKING A MOTION?
10:12:39PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS.
10:12:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:12:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:12:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN IT OUT.
10:12:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
10:12:58PM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:13:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
10:13:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HE WANTS IT OUT.
10:13:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU DON'T WANT THE PICKLEBALL COURT?
10:13:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY POINT IS IF THERE ARE BASKETBALL COURTS
10:13:22PM AND BASEBALL FIELDS WHICH WE DO HAVE THAT ARE FALLING APART,
10:13:25PM INTERBAY DOWN BY MacDILL, THIS IS WHERE THE MacDILL
10:13:29PM PEOPLE'S KIDS GO, THE DUGOUTS ARE FALLING APART ALL OVER
10:13:32PM THEM.
10:13:33PM WE SHOULDN'T BE PAYING FOR ANYTHING NEW THAT, IF SOMETHING
10:13:38PM IS A HAZARD WHERE KIDS ARE GOING TO GET HURT.
10:13:42PM I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:13:44PM I ALSO WANT TO ASK, MR. ROGERO, THANK YOU, OCEA.
10:13:49PM WE HAVE LIKE ANOTHER 25 MILLION IN PARKING.
10:13:56PM IS THERE ANY MORE OF THAT THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE TOWARD ROAD
10:13:59PM REPAIR?
10:14:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN, I THINK IT'S ALREADY OPINED LEGALLY,
10:14:06PM AS LONG AS IT IS MOBILITY RELATED IT CAN BE DONE, BUT I
10:14:10PM WOULD DEFER.
10:14:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: MS. DUNCAN STOOD UP.
10:14:16PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: JEAN DUNCAN, INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.
10:14:19PM I'M NOT QUITE SURE, THE QUESTION YOU SAID, THERE IS ANOTHER
10:14:22PM 125.
10:14:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: 25 MILLION IN PARKING.
10:14:25PM MY QUESTION, IS THERE ADDITIONAL MONEY IN PARKING THAT WE
10:14:28PM CAN MOVE TO ROAD REPAIR?
10:14:29PM ROAD REPAIR, I GET SEVERAL COMPLAINTS A DAY ABOUT ROAD
10:14:36PM REPAIR.
10:14:36PM HOUSING IS A HUGE ISSUE.
10:14:38PM WE CAN'T USE MOBILITY OR PARKING MONEY FOR HOUSING, BUT WE
10:14:41PM CAN USE, POTENTIALLY USE PARKING MONEY FOR ROADS.
10:14:46PM IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE CAN SHIFT?
10:14:48PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: THERE IS ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN PARKING,
10:14:50PM HOWEVER THEY ARE HIGH PRIORITIES.
10:14:52PM WE HAVE FUNDS FOR GARAGE MAINTENANCE UPKEEP.
10:14:56PM WE HAVE DEFERRED COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH OUR GARAGES.
10:15:00PM WE HAVE FUNDS ALLOTTED FOR FOR NEXT YEAR.
10:15:02PM WE ALSO HAVE COMMUNITY MOBILITY PROJECTS, MONEY SET ASIDE
10:15:06PM FOR THOSE.
10:15:07PM THOSE INCLUDE THE SIDEWALK REPAIRS, $700,000, A MILLION
10:15:12PM DOLLARS FOR THE STREETCAR OPERATIONS.
10:15:15PM AND MICROMOBILITY PROJECTS SUCH AS E-VOUCHER PROGRAM AND
10:15:20PM SECURE BIKING PROGRAM.
10:15:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MUCH ARE WE PUTTING IN FOR THE MICRO--
10:15:24PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: A MILLION DOLLARS.
10:15:25PM AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT --
10:15:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE MOVE THAT TO SIDEWALKS?
10:15:30PM OR ROADS?
10:15:32PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: HALF OF THAT IS THE VOUCHER PROGRAM WHICH IS
10:15:34PM VERY POPULAR WHERE FOLKS ARE GETTING A VOUCHER TO ALLOW THEM
10:15:37PM TO PURCHASE AN E-BIKE, WHICH IN SOME CASES IS THEIR
10:15:41PM TRANSPORTATION FOR JOBS AND OTHER NEEDS.
10:15:44PM IT'S ALL PRIORITIES.
10:15:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: I CAN'T DO A CALL LINE TO THE WALK-BIKE
10:15:57PM PEOPLE, BUT SEEMS TO ME THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SIDEWALKS
10:16:00PM RIGHT NOW THAN THAT.
10:16:01PM I'LL LEAVE THAT AS IT IS.
10:16:02PM BEFORE I RUN OUT OF TIME, CAN I ASK SOMEBODY FROM POLICE OR
10:16:06PM POLICE PBA, I SAW THAT THE CELL PHONES WERE ON THAT CUT AND
10:16:11PM ALSO YOU TALKED ABOUT THE POLICE OVER-HIRE.
10:16:14PM AND MR. ROGERO, I WONDER IF THERE'S ANY MONEY FROM SOMEWHERE
10:16:18PM ELSE THAT WE CAN SHIFT IN TO COVER THOSE.
10:16:22PM LAST TIME, CHIEF, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF
10:16:29PM THE CELL PHONES, SO THIS CUT THAT WAS MADE IN CELL PHONES IS
10:16:33PM THAT ONLY PART OF IT OR ALL OF IT?
10:16:36PM >> THAT WAS THE FULL REQUEST, 300,000.
10:16:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IS IT, 225,000?
10:16:42PM NO PLACE ELSE WE CAN FIND THAT?
10:16:45PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOING FROM MEMORY, ALTHOUGH I GUESS I DON'T
10:16:47PM HAVE TO.
10:16:47PM IT'S RIGHT HERE.
10:16:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHILE HE'S LOOKING AT THAT, CHIEF, DO YOU
10:17:00PM AGREE WITH PBA ON THE POLICE OVER-HIRES THAT WE NEEDED TO
10:17:07PM FUND THOSE SOMEHOW?
10:17:09PM >> I'M CONFIDENT IF WE GET THE GRANT THAT WE'LL BE FINE.
10:17:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: DOES THAT MEAN WE GET 30 PLUS THOSE?
10:17:16PM >> THE GRANT WOULD BE 30 OFFICERS AND THEN IF I WERE ABLE TO
10:17:19PM CAP OFF AT 30, I WOULD STILL HAVE ROOM FOR OVER-HIRE.
10:17:22PM I'M CONFIDENT WITH THAT.
10:17:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: STILL HAVE ROOM WITHIN THE BUDGET.
10:17:26PM DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT FROM PBA?
10:17:31PM >> THE WAY I TAKE IT, STILL GOING FROM 20 TO 10 OVER-HIRE.
10:17:35PM IS THAT CORRECT?
10:17:36PM >> YES.
10:17:39PM >> IN OUR OPINION, THE MASTER PLAN CALLS FOR GROWTH.
10:17:45PM IF WE CAN GET THAT GROWTH AND NOT CUT BACK THE CURRENT
10:17:51PM CAPABILITY THEY HAVE, THAT WOULD BE EVEN BETTER.
10:17:55PM >> JUST PLAIN LOGISTICS OF IT IS IF WE GET THE GRANT,
10:17:59PM ASSUMING THAT WE ARE, CAPS MY CEILING AT 30 MORE.
10:18:03PM AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WOULD HAVE ROOM FOR 10 MORE
10:18:07PM FOR AN OVER-HIRE.
10:18:08PM IF I GOT TO A POINT TO GET ALL THAT IN A YEAR, WHICH WOULD
10:18:11PM BE TOUGH TO DO, IT WOULD BE A GOAL, AND I GOT A POSITION
10:18:14PM WHERE I NEEDED TO HIRE MORE, I'M CONFIDENT WE COULD FIND
10:18:17PM EXTRA MONEY TO DO THAT.
10:18:18PM SO I HAVE NO CONCERNS AT ALL WITH THIS.
10:18:21PM >> I THINK THAT IF THE CHIEF IS CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN DO IT
10:18:24PM WITH THOSE CURRENT NUMBERS, THEN WE'LL STIPULATE THAT WE
10:18:29PM WOULD BE ON BOARD WITH THAT AS WELL.
10:18:31PM SO LONG AS WE'RE LOOKING AT A YEAR OR SO DOWN THE ROAD, WE
10:18:34PM DON'T REMAIN CUTTING OUR OVER-HIRES IN HALF.
10:18:39PM I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.
10:18:41PM BECAUSE I KNOW THE TRAINING IS THE BIG PART.
10:18:44PM YOU CAN ONLY PUSH SO MANY PEOPLE THROUGH IT ONE TIME.
10:18:47PM THAT COULD BE WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
10:18:49PM NOT BEING ABLE TO PUSH THROUGH PLUS THE OVER-HIRES.
10:18:52PM WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
10:18:53PM ONCE WE GO BACK TO THE REGULAR TRAINING SCHEDULE, LIKE TO BE
10:18:56PM AT THE 20 OVER-HIRES LIKE WE WERE SAY A YEAR OR SO FROM NOW.
10:19:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW THAT BESIDES THE PBA, THE POLICE
10:19:04PM OFFICERS I RUN INTO ON THE STREET TELL ME THEY DESPERATELY
10:19:10PM NEED SUPPORT.
10:19:11PM I KNOW THIS 30 WILL GO A LONG WAY.
10:19:13PM I DON'T WANT THEM TO THINK WE TOOK TWO STEPS FORWARD AND A
10:19:15PM STEP BACK.
10:19:16PM I WANT THEM TO KNOW WE SUPPORT THEM.
10:19:18PM CHIEF, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT AND PBA.
10:19:21PM >> THIS ACCOMPLISHES EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH,
10:19:23PM ASSUMING WE GET THE GRANT, WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK ON THAT.
10:19:26PM IF WE DON'T, WE'LL BE BACK HERE WITH A PLAN B.
10:19:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT ABOUT THE CELL PHONES?
10:19:33PM >> WITH THE CELL PHONES, TOO, THERE IS A POTENTIAL GRANT
10:19:36PM THAT WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR BACK ON ON FEDERAL APPROPRIATIONS
10:19:39PM THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE TO FILL THAT GAP.
10:19:41PM I JUST DON'T KNOW ON THAT YET.
10:19:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. ROGERO WILL COME BACK TO US IF WE EXCEED
10:19:47PM REVENUE FORECAST, I ASSUME.
10:19:49PM CAN YOU ALL PLEASE KEEP US POSTED ON WHAT YOU ALL NEED AND
10:19:53PM IF THOSE GRANTS COME THROUGH OR NOT?
10:19:55PM BECAUSE WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT OTHER ISSUES
10:19:58PM TONIGHT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CARE ABOUT YOU ALL ANY
10:20:01PM LESS AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE COVERED.
10:20:03PM THANK YOU.
10:20:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO STRIKE THE E-BIKE PROGRAM AND
10:20:10PM MOVE THE FUNDS TO SIDEWALKS.
10:20:11PM IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME DIFFICULT CUTS, THAT SEEMS LIKE
10:20:19PM LOW-HANGING FRUIT.
10:20:21PM LIKE 700,000.
10:20:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. DUNCAN IS THIS THE PROGRAM THAT
10:20:26PM HELPS PEOPLE GET THE BIKES THAT YOU SAID HELPS THEM GET TO
10:20:31PM WORK, IF THEY DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION.
10:20:33PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: JEAN DUNCAN, INFRASTRUCTURE AND MOBILITY.
10:20:36PM YES, SIR, THIS IS THE E-BIKE VOUCHER PROGRAM.
10:20:40PM CURRENTLY, WE HAVE I BELIEVE IT IS 500,000 FOR FY '24 FOR
10:20:46PM THAT PROGRAM.
10:20:50PM >> IS THERE AN ECONOMIC TEST FOR THAT?
10:20:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY OR IF YOU
10:20:57PM QUALIFY, YOU GET MORE MONEY.
10:20:59PM IF YOU DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY.
10:21:01PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, THERE IS AN APPLICATION.
10:21:03PM THERE IS A VETTING OF THOSE APPLICATIONS, PRIORITIZATION.
10:21:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE
10:21:13PM ENOUGH FIRE STATIONS.
10:21:14PM WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO SAVE LIVES.
10:21:16PM DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS.
10:21:18PM WE DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS.
10:21:19PM PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS ARE RIDING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE
10:21:22PM STREET PUTTING THEMSELVES IN DANGER.
10:21:24PM ALL OF THIS IS A NECESSITY.
10:21:27PM BUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES
10:21:32PM AND OLDER FOLKS WHO CAN'T WALK THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD
10:21:36PM WITHOUT WALKING IN THE STREET IS REALLY DANGEROUS.
10:21:40PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: YES, SIR, WE AGREE.
10:21:41PM IT'S ALL THE CIRCLE OF LIFE.
10:21:42PM IF YOU DON'T HAVE A HOME, IT'S HARD TO GET A JOB, IF YOU
10:21:46PM CAN'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO YOUR JOB, IT'S ALL
10:21:49PM CONNECTED.
10:21:49PM IT'S ALL A MATTER OF PRIORITIES.
10:21:51PM WE'RE HAPPY TO ADJUST ACCORDINGLY TO THE PLEASURE OF
10:21:54PM COUNCIL.
10:21:55PM WE TRY TO TAKE WHAT LITTLE MONEY WE HAVE AND ADDRESS THE
10:21:58PM NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE BEST METHOD -- SO, YES.
10:22:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, YOU ARE THE MAKER
10:22:06PM OF THE MOTION.
10:22:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY THOUGHTS, ONE, WRITE THE HEADLINE FOR
10:22:10PM THE TAMPA BAY TIMES.
10:22:11PM BILL CARLSON COMES OUT AGAINST PICKLEBALL COURTS.
10:22:14PM COME OUT AGAINST HIM INSTEAD OF THE E-BIKE THING.
10:22:17PM SECONDLY, HERE IS THE THING, I LIKE -- I THINK IT IS A GREAT
10:22:21PM PROGRAM.
10:22:21PM IT'S VERY INTERESTING.
10:22:22PM WE ARE -- WE'RE NOT CUTTING INTO FAT.
10:22:26PM WE'RE CUTTING INTO MEAT.
10:22:28PM SO THERE IS A LOT OF WANTS THAT ARE BEING CUT TONIGHT IN
10:22:31PM THIS BUDGET THAT'S PRESENTED TO US.
10:22:34PM THERE IS A LOT, A LOT OF NEEDS.
10:22:36PM REALLY SOME CRITICAL NEEDS THAT ARE NOT GOING TO GET FUNDED
10:22:41PM IN '24.
10:22:42PM WHILE I THINK IT IS A WONDERFUL PROGRAM, I THINK COUNCILMAN
10:22:44PM CARLSON IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
10:22:48PM WE HAVE DANGEROUS SIDEWALKS, SIDEWALKS THAT PEOPLE WITH
10:22:50PM DISABILITIES CANNOT WALK ON.
10:22:52PM WE HAD TESTIMONY FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT A WOMAN WITH SIGHT
10:22:55PM ISSUES AND THE PROBLEMS THAT SHE HAD ON SIDEWALKS.
10:22:58PM SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEEDS VERSUS WANTS, IS IT
10:23:01PM NICE TO HAVE THAT PROGRAM?
10:23:03PM YES.
10:23:03PM IS IT -- I MEAN, CAN THEY USE A REGULAR BICYCLE AND NOT AN
10:23:07PM E-BIKE?
10:23:08PM I DON'T HAVE AN E-BIKE BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO EXPENSIVE FOR
10:23:11PM ME.
10:23:11PM I DON'T BUY ONE BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO EXPENSIVE FOR ME.
10:23:14PM BUT I BIKE A LOT OF PLACES.
10:23:17PM I BIKE TO THE GROCERY STORE AND STUFF.
10:23:19PM AGAIN, IT'S WANTS VERSUS NEEDS.
10:23:23PM THIS IS A WANT.
10:23:24PM IT'S NOT A NEED.
10:23:26PM THE NEEDS ARE OUR SIDEWALKS.
10:23:28PM WE HAVE TO IMPROVE.
10:23:31PM WE HAVE TO DO BETTER.
10:23:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:23:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:23:35PM YOU KNOW, I THINK I MIGHT AGREE WITH YOU IF $500,000 COULD
10:23:39PM DO MORE THAN BUY HALF A MILE OF SIDEWALK.
10:23:42PM WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BALANCE OF IT, WE'RE GOING TO
10:23:46PM HELP -- WHAT IS THE AVERAGE -- WHAT IS THE AVERAGE -- THE
10:23:53PM AVERAGE IS $2500.
10:23:54PM SO WE'RE GOING TO HELP 200 PEOPLE BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY,
10:23:57PM BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE A CAR, GET TO WORK WITHOUT
10:24:01PM BEING DRENCHED IN SWEAT.
10:24:04PM TO ME, THAT IS AN ECONOMIC DRIVER.
10:24:07PM SO I CAN'T SUPPORT IT JUST BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC DRIVING
10:24:12PM OF IT VERSUS HALF A MILE OF SIDEWALK.
10:24:15PM SIDEWALKS ARE VERY IMPORTANT, BUT AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON
10:24:19PM LIKES TO SAY, IT'S ALL ABOUT THE ECONOMICS AND THE ECONOMY
10:24:22PM AND GROWING THE ECONOMY, AND IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE
10:24:25PM TO, AND RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE SO FAR AWAY FROM
10:24:28PM WHERE THEY WORK BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
10:24:30PM DOWNTOWN.
10:24:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN HAS A MOTION.
10:24:35PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WITH THE SECOND.
10:24:38PM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
10:24:39PM IF NOT, WE TAKE A VOTE.
10:24:41PM LET'S GO TO A VOTE.
10:24:41PM ROLL CALL.
10:24:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
10:24:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:24:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
10:24:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:24:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
10:24:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:24:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
10:24:54PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION FAILED WITH MIRANDA, HURTAK,
10:24:57PM HENDERSON, AND MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
10:25:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, I'LL ASK MR.
10:25:04PM ROGERO -- MORE?
10:25:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ONE MORE THING.
10:25:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER THIS, IT'S OVER.
10:25:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S SOMETHING I FORGOT.
10:25:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:25:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW WE CAN'T ADD ANYTHING TO THE BUDGET,
10:25:15PM WHICH IS FINE, BUT THE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY REMINDED ME AND
10:25:19PM MS. LYON IN THE AUDIENCE REMINDED ME THAT WE HEARD
10:25:25PM PASSIONATE TESTIMONY FROM FOLKS THAT USED TO VOLUNTEER WITH
10:25:29PM THE HUMANE SOCIETY ABOUT THE KILLING OF KITTENS, AND SO AS A
10:25:36PM -- SINCE WE'RE ALREADY REDUCING THAT FUNDING, I'M JUST GOING
10:25:40PM TO SAY TO TAKE IT OUT ALTOGETHER.
10:25:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MUCH IS IT?
10:25:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LIKE $11,000.
10:25:46PM AND THEN THEY ARE GETTING CUT BY 10% ALREADY.
10:25:49PM ISN'T IT 10% MORE?
10:25:52PM SO ONLY $10,000.
10:25:54PM THAT $10,000 CAN GO TO SIDEWALKS.
10:25:57PM WHEREVER IT WANTS TO GO.
10:25:59PM I KNOW WE'RE NOT ADDING ANY NEW PEOPLE BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE
10:26:02PM IT TO GO TO A NEW ORGANIZATION, BUT MY COMPROMISE IS JUST TO
10:26:06PM TAKE IT OUT OF THE BUDGET.
10:26:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO COMPLETELY ELIMINATE
10:26:09PM THE FUNDING FROM THE -- FOR THE HUMANE SOCIETY CONTRIBUTION
10:26:13PM BY THE CITY.
10:26:14PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:26:14PM IS THERE A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION?
10:26:17PM IS THERE A SECOND ON THIS?
10:26:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M GOING TO SPEAK TO THE SECOND WHICH I'LL
10:26:28PM SAY RESPECTFULLY NO.
10:26:30PM KNOWING WHAT A CHAMPION OF OUR ANIMALS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
10:26:32PM IS.
10:26:32PM I DECLINE WITH GREAT RESPECT FOR YOU.
10:26:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT A MINUTE.
10:26:36PM THERE WAS NO SECOND.
10:26:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THE KITTENS WERE PUT
10:26:46PM DOWN.
10:26:47PM MAYBE DISEASED.
10:26:48PM I DON'T KNOW, FOR US TO MAKE A JUDGMENT WITHOUT KNOWING,
10:26:52PM TELL ME ANYTHING THEY WANT AND I'LL BELIEVE IT MAYBE BUT
10:26:55PM I'VE GOT TO AT LEAST CHECK.
10:26:56PM HAS ANYBODY CHECKED.
10:26:58PM SOMEBODY GO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED?
10:27:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I BELIEVE IT WAS THE DIRECTOR OF THE
10:27:02PM HUMANE SOCIETY SENT US AN E-MAIL EXPLAINING THE MEDICAL
10:27:06PM CIRCUMSTANCES AND THAT THE VETERINARIANS, THEIR
10:27:09PM RECOMMENDATION OF THE VETERINARIANS.
10:27:11PM ANYBODY FOLLOWS ME ON Facebook KNOWS I'M PROBABLY ONE OF
10:27:15PM THE BIGGEST ANIMAL RESCUE UP HERE.
10:27:19PM I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE HARD DECISIONS.
10:27:21PM I'VE HAD TO PUT DOWN A DOG BEFORE BECAUSE OF MEDICAL
10:27:25PM CONDITIONS.
10:27:26PM IT'S ONE OF THE WORST DAYS OF YOUR LIFE.
10:27:29PM WORST DAY OF YOUR LIFE.
10:27:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DID ONE AND DON'T WANT TO DO ANOTHER
10:27:33PM ONE.
10:27:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LAST CALL FOR A SECOND, IF NOT THE
10:27:36PM MOTION DIES.
10:27:36PM IS THERE A SECOND?
10:27:37PM THE MOTION HAS DIED.
10:27:39PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:39PM MR. ROGERO, AT THIS POINT -- I REALLY WANT YOU TO TELL THE
10:27:46PM FINANCE CHAIR TO READ.
10:27:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU CAN PUT ME ON THE TIMER FOR 90 SECONDS.
10:27:56PM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WITH MS. WYNN, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO
10:28:04PM GET UP, WHEN IT COMES TO THE PARKS BUDGET, THERE ARE FUNDS
10:28:08PM SET IN RIGHT NOW FOR DISABILITY FRIENDLY PARKS AND WE CAN --
10:28:12PM AND THAT MONEY IS DISCRETIONARY GOING TO DIFFERENT PARKS AT
10:28:14PM THE DISCRETION OF CITY STAFF, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:28:17PM PLEASE SAY YES.
10:28:19PM OKAY.
10:28:20PM GREAT.
10:28:20PM I ALSO WANT TO MENTION TO COUNCIL THAT AGAIN THERE ARE FUNDS
10:28:23PM IN HERE FOR OUR RETURNING CITIZENS PROGRAM FOR OUR SPECIAL
10:28:26PM NEEDS INTERNSHIP PROGRAM FOR ARTS FOR THE INTELLECTUALLY
10:28:30PM DISABLED THROUGH THE PENGUIN PROJECT.
10:28:32PM SALUTE COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR MENTIONING MICHAEL BISHOP WHO
10:28:36PM KNOWS TOO MUCH ABOUT COUNCIL AND IS A VERY SMART INDIVIDUAL.
10:28:39PM I SEE HIM ON TWITTER.
10:28:40PM THAT'S IT.
10:28:40PM THANK YOU.
10:28:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:49PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:28:52PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, SECOND FROM
10:28:56PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:28:57PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:58PM ANY OPPOSED?
10:28:59PM MR. ROGERO, WILL YOU HAVE THE FINANCE CHAIR PLEASE PROVIDE
10:29:02PM THE READING OF THE MILLAGE RATE RESOLUTION?
10:29:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WILL, BUT IF I MAY, COUNCIL HAS ONLY
10:29:09PM APPROVED SOME OF THE BALANCED BUDGET ITEMS THAT WE PUT IN
10:29:15PM FRONT OF YOU.
10:29:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DID THE 7 MILLION TO PAVING.
10:29:17PM WE DID THE HOUSING, AND THEN WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE?
10:29:21PM THE CIP --
10:29:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT'S ADEQUATE FOR ME.
10:29:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOTION TO APPROVE THE REMAINING BUDGET
10:29:30PM AS SUBMITTED BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:29:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MASSEY, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND.
10:29:33PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: REAL QUICKLY, I HAVE AN AMENDED ORDINANCE
10:29:37PM THAT INCORPORATES AS EXHIBIT A THOSE ITEMS THAT MR. ROGERO
10:29:42PM PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT AS REVISIONS TO THE BUDGET
10:29:45PM PRESENTED BY THE MAYOR.
10:29:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WAS MY MOTION SUFFICIENT?
10:29:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:29:53PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:29:54PM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:54PM AYE.
10:29:55PM THAT IS TO ACCEPT THE REMAINING CHANGES, REMAINING --
10:30:17PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:30:20PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU APPROVED ON FIRST
10:30:22PM READING BASICALLY YOU APPROVED THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED BY
10:30:26PM THE MAYOR AS MODIFIED BY YOU ALL AS CITY COUNCIL.
10:30:30PM THIS JUST SAYS AS MORE EXPRESSLY OR MORE PARTICULARLY SET
10:30:34PM FORTH IN EXHIBIT A.
10:30:36PM EXHIBIT A IS THE PRESENTATION THAT MR. ROGERO GAVE TONIGHT
10:30:40PM GOING THROUGH THE VARIOUS REVISIONS THAT WERE BEING
10:30:43PM PROPOSED.
10:30:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF
10:30:46PM US WHEN WE SAT DOWN?
10:30:47PM IS THIS DIFFERENT?
10:30:48PM BECAUSE WE HAVE THESE ALREADY.
10:30:50PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, THE ONE PHRASE, I
10:30:53PM INCORPORATED IN EXHIBIT A, WHICH GOES THROUGH IN DETAIL WHAT
10:30:56PM THE REVISIONS WERE THAT WERE OFFERED BY MR. ROGERO TONIGHT
10:31:00PM TO --
10:31:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MONEY FOR HOUSING --
10:31:03PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: CORRECT.
10:31:04PM 7 MILLION FOR PAVING.
10:31:05PM 5 MILLION GOING TO HOUSING.
10:31:08PM THE WHOLE PRESENTATION THAT HE WENT THROUGH THAT YOU ALL HAD
10:31:11PM MOVED MOTION TO APPROVE.
10:31:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 6.20 WHICH IS CORRECT.
10:31:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MASSEY, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
10:31:19PM ATTORNEY, HOW DO WE THEN INCORPORATE INTO THIS ORDINANCE
10:31:23PM THEN OR MEMORIALIZE IT OR FORMALIZE WHAT COUNCIL'S MOTIONS
10:31:26PM WERE TONIGHT INTO THE BUDGET?
10:31:28PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: TO THE EXTENT, I THINK SOME OF THE CHANGES
10:31:31PM THAT YOU WERE OFFERING UP TONIGHT WERE PRIMARILY CHANGES TO
10:31:34PM THE CIP WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 4 IS MY RECOLLECTION.
10:31:38PM YOU DID NOT -- MOST OF THE MOTIONS I HEARD BEING MADE FROM
10:31:42PM THE DAIS TONIGHT DIDN'T REALLY DEAL WITH THE OPERATING
10:31:45PM BUDGET, WHICH IS WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS.
10:31:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: EVERY MOTION I HEARD WAS CONSISTENT WITH
10:31:52PM THE OPERATING BUDGET.
10:31:53PM AND THE ONLY ABERRATION WAS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
10:31:57PM WHICH WE'LL GET TO.
10:31:58PM WE'LL BE ASKING FOR A BREAK FOR THAT.
10:32:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SATISFIED WITH WHAT I SEE BECAUSE
10:32:05PM IT'S MEMORIALIZED HERE IN SHOWING THE EXHIBIT A.
10:32:09PM SO IT WILL BE PART OF THE ORDINANCE.
10:32:10PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:32:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: MORRIS, CAN I ASK YOU, SECTION 5 OF THE
10:32:22PM ORDINANCE, IT SAYS ANY REVENUES RECEIVED BY THE CITY OF
10:32:29PM TAMPA, THIS IS ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH, ANY REVENUES RECEIVED
10:32:32PM BY THE CITY OF TAMPA DURING SAID FISCAL YEAR FROM SOURCES
10:32:35PM NOT ANTICIPATED BY THE BUDGET SHALL BE DEPOSITED IN THE
10:32:40PM UNAPPROPRIATED CASH SURPLUS ACCOUNT OF THE RESPECTIVE FUND.
10:32:45PM I WOULD LIKE TO ADD, AND WILL BE PRESENTED TO COUNCIL FOR
10:32:49PM DIRECTION, AND THEN CONTINUE, SUBJECT TO APPROPRIATIONS FROM
10:32:53PM TIME TO TIME AND ALL DISBURSEMENTS OR TRANSFER OF FUNDS OF
10:32:57PM THE CITY OF TAMPA MADE DURING THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING
10:32:59PM SEPTEMBER 30, 2024, BY THE PROPER OFFICERS OF THE CITY
10:33:04PM VOUCHERS AND AS SHOWN REFLECTED UPON THE RECORDS OF THE
10:33:08PM DIRECTORS, AND THEN INSTEAD OF ARE HEREBY APPROVED, PUT
10:33:12PM SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY COUNCIL.
10:33:15PM >> SECOND.
10:33:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU MAKE THAT CHANGE BETWEEN --
10:33:18PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF YOU CAN MARK IT UP.
10:33:20PM MR. PERRY IS LOOKING AT ME.
10:33:21PM DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT LANGUAGE?
10:33:23PM I THINK ANY APPROPRIATION HAS TO COME TO YOU ALL ANYWAY.
10:33:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PROBLEM, THERE ARE TWO THINGS IN HERE.
10:33:31PM LIKE, WHEN THERE'S BONDING CAPACITY, WE FIND OUT WHEN A
10:33:35PM CONTRACT COMES BEFORE US THAT'S GOING TO BE BONDED.
10:33:38PM TWO THINGS HERE.
10:33:40PM ONE IS TO SAY IF THERE'S SURPLUS, WE NEED TO KNOW IT TO ASK
10:33:45PM DIRECTION OF HOW IT SHOULD BE SPENT.
10:33:47PM SECOND, IS THAT -- SOMEBODY CAN'T JUST MOVE IT AROUND LIKE
10:33:54PM WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE FIRE STATION.
10:33:55PM IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MOVE IT AROUND, THEY CAN'T COME TO US
10:33:57PM WITH MOVE THIS CASH TO THAT CASH.
10:33:59PM THEY NEED TO COME BACK AND GET THE CHANGE APPROVED BY CITY
10:34:02PM COUNCIL.
10:34:08PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF YOU WANT THAT LANGUAGE, I THINK THAT'S
10:34:10PM HOW WE HANDLE THINGS ANYWAY.
10:34:12PM IF YOU WANT THAT CLARIFIED, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN
10:34:14PM OBJECTION TO THAT.
10:34:15PM WE'LL NEED TO HAVE A BREAK IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT CHANGE IN
10:34:18PM THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE.
10:34:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT A BREAK THIS EVENING BEFORE WE
10:34:21PM APPROVE.
10:34:22PM >> YES.
10:34:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:34:23PM FAIR ENOUGH.
10:34:25PM >> SHOULD WE VOTE ON IT FIRST?
10:34:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
10:34:28PM LET THEM MAKE THE CHANGES AND WE VOTE --
10:34:32PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: -- BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING WITH THE
10:34:34PM ORDINANCE FOR THE BUDGET.
10:34:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TO BREAK NOW OR NUMBER 9?
10:34:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS.
10:34:44PM I APPRECIATE THAT WE HAVE THIS EXHIBIT A --
10:34:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SAYS OPTION, OPTION, OPTION.
10:34:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE CHANGES SPECIFIC,
10:34:57PM LIKE THE FACT THAT --
10:34:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU SAY ADOPTED CHANGES WITH
10:35:03PM REVISIONS?
10:35:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LIKE THE REVISIONS WE SPENT AN HOUR TALKING
10:35:07PM ABOUT WITH THE PRIORITIES OF NOW THE FIRE STATIONS AND ALL
10:35:10PM THAT STUFF.
10:35:12PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THAT WILL BE PART OF
10:35:14PM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
10:35:19PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: DO MEET ALL THE TIME TO REVISE THAT EXHIBIT
10:35:22PM AND GET IT ENTERED INTO THE RECORD BEFORE YOU APPROVE THE
10:35:24PM CIP.
10:35:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HAS THE CIP CHANGED AT ALL?
10:35:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CIP STAYED THE SAME UNTIL THE DISCUSSION IN
10:35:34PM THE PRIORITIZATION REGARDING THE FIRE STATIONS.
10:35:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WAS IN THE CIP THAT
10:35:42PM WE'VE ALL REVIEWED HAS NOT CHANGED.
10:35:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT HAS NOT.
10:35:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION.
10:35:47PM WITH REGARD SPECIFICALLY TO FY '24, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT
10:35:53PM IS IN THE CIP CHANGED FOR FY '24 THAT AFFECTS THE BUDGET
10:35:58PM OTHER THAN THE GENERAL OPERATING?
10:36:00PM >> NO.
10:36:01PM I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THAT CLARIFYING QUESTION, BUT NO.
10:36:04PM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:36:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:36:07PM ALL RIGHT.
10:36:08PM AT THIS TIME, ASK THE FINANCE CHAIR TO READ --
10:36:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AS LONG AS COUNCIL IS CONTENT TO TAKE A
10:36:19PM BREAK AFTER THE READING.
10:36:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:36:23PM READ THE MILLAGE AND WE SET THAT, THEN YOU CAN MAKE THESE
10:36:25PM MODIFICATIONS AS REQUESTED.
10:36:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WILL THE FINANCE CHAIR PLEASE PROVIDE THE
10:36:30PM READING OF THE MILLAGE RATE RESOLUTION?
10:36:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A RESOLUTION LEVYING AD VALOREM TAX AT
10:36:41PM THE RATE OF SIX AND TWO THOUSAND SEVENTY-SIX TEN
10:36:41PM THOUSANDTHS, 6.2076 MILLS, UPON ALL REAL PROPERTY, TAXABLE
10:36:52PM PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024,
10:36:55PM AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND CITY CLERK TO CERTIFY SUCH
10:36:58PM MILLAGE; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:37:00PM THAT IS THE FIRST PART.
10:37:02PM LET IT BE RESOLVED THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
10:37:05PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, SECTION 1, THAT THE AD VALOREM TAX AT THE
10:37:09PM RATE OF SIX AND TWO THOUSAND SEVENTY-SIX TEN THOUSANDTHS,
10:37:09PM 6.2076 MILLS, TO RAISE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY AS FIXED IN THE
10:37:19PM CAPITAL AND OPERATING -- EXCUSE ME, FIXED IN THE OPERATING
10:37:23PM AND CAPITAL BUDGET OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AS AMENDED BY CITY
10:37:25PM COUNCIL FOR THE FISCAL YEAR COMMENCING OCTOBER 1, 2023,
10:37:30PM ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2024 FOR THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE
10:37:34PM MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, INCLUDING
10:37:38PM PARTS, COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:37:42PM FLORIDA, IS HEREBY LEVIED TO PROVIDE BY LAW ALL -- ON ALL
10:37:47PM REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTIES TAXABLE FOR THE PURPOSES IN THE
10:37:52PM CITY OF TAMPA, SECTION 2, THAT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY CLERK
10:37:56PM AS THE PROPER AUTHORITIES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE DULY
10:38:00PM AUTHORIZED AND EMPOWERED TO DIRECT TO CERTIFY THE PROPERTY
10:38:04PM APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THE MILLAGE TO BE LEVIED ON
10:38:08PM ALL PURPOSES FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:38:12PM TO WIT 6.2076 MILLS WHICH EXCEED THE ROLLED-BACK RATE OF
10:38:17PM 5.8041 MILLS AS DEFINED IN SECTION 200.061 -- EXCUSE ME, 65,
10:38:28PM PARENTHESES 1 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES BY 6.9% TO REQUEST
10:38:33PM LEVY OF THE MILLAGE SET FORTH UPON ALL REAL PERSONAL
10:38:36PM PROPERTY FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA AS ABOVE SET FORTH IN
10:38:41PM ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE
10:38:44PM LAWS OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
10:38:45PM SECTION 3.
10:38:47PM THAT OTHER PROPER OFFICERS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE
10:38:52PM AUTHORIZED TO DO ALL THINGS NECESSARY AND PROPER IN ORDER TO
10:38:55PM CARRY OUT, MAKE EFFECTIVE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF THE
10:38:59PM RESOLUTION WHICH SHALL BECOME EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY UPON ITS
10:39:02PM ADOPTION.
10:39:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:39:04PM SIR, THEN WILL YOU MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MILLAGE RATE
10:39:09PM RESOLUTION AND WE'LL TAKE A VOTE AND THAT'S ITEM NUMBER 10
10:39:11PM ON THE SHEET.
10:39:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.
10:39:16PM >> SECOND.
10:39:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, THIS IS THE PROPOSED -- YOU HAVE
10:39:18PM TO READ PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE.
10:39:20PM ITEM NUMBER 10.
10:39:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 10, NOT 3.
10:39:29PM MOTION NUMBER 10, ADOPT FISCAL YEAR 2024 MILLAGE RATE.
10:39:32PM MOVE TO ADOPT PROPOSED MILLAGE RATE OF 6.2076 MILLS, WHICH
10:39:36PM IS 6.95 PERCENT MORE THAN THE ROLLED BACK MILLAGE RATE OF
10:39:40PM 5.8041 MILLS FOR PROPERTY TAX FUNDS WHICH ARE USED TO
10:39:45PM SUPPORT THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING BUDGET AND THE COMMUNITY
10:39:48PM REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY FUNDS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:39:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND, IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
10:39:55PM I SEE THAT AS A MOTION TO EITHER KEEP IT -- EITHER KEEP IT
10:39:59PM THERE AND PUT IT LOWER BY KEEPING IT THERE, I'M SECONDING.
10:40:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
10:40:04PM VIERA -- I'M SORRY, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A SECOND FROM
10:40:07PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:40:08PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:40:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY REAL FAST, I SAID MONTHS AGO
10:40:13PM THAT I PREFER TO GO TO THE ROLLED-BACK RATE.
10:40:17PM OBVIOUSLY, WE COULDN'T GET THERE IN THIS SITUATION, THERE'S
10:40:21PM NO WAY TO GO BACK TO IT NOW.
10:40:23PM BUT I'M GOING TO TRY AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
10:40:26PM I THINK WE NEED TO BE EFFICIENT ABOUT OUR MONEY AND NOT KEEP
10:40:30PM RAISING IT.
10:40:31PM BUT THIS IS A COMPROMISE -- FOR ME, THIS IS A COMPROMISE
10:40:35PM BECAUSE I'D RATHER GO BACK TO THE ROLLED-BACK RATE, BUT AT
10:40:38PM LEAST WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE MILLAGE.
10:40:40PM THANK YOU.
10:40:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:40:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
10:40:42PM JUST READY TO VOTE.
10:40:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
10:40:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
10:40:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:40:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
10:40:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:40:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
10:40:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
10:40:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:40:55PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:40:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO, YOU NEED A BREAK AT THIS
10:40:59PM TIME TO UPDATE EVERYTHING.
10:41:01PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I THINK WE CAN GO TO THE SECOND READING.
10:41:04PM WE NEED A BREAK ONLY FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
10:41:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW LONG DO YOU NEED?
10:41:16PM TEN MINUTES.
10:41:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REVISIONS TO ATTACHMENT 2 --
10:41:23PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE WILL.
10:41:24PM HOW LONG DO WE NEED?
10:41:25PM WE'LL NEED MORE THAN TEN MINUTES.
10:41:30PM 15.
10:41:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLEARLY YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT 10 MINUTES
10:41:36PM MEANS TO COUNCIL.
10:41:37PM 10 MINUTES IS USUALLY 20 OR 30.
10:41:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 15-MINUTE BREAK.
10:41:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
10:41:45PM [15-MINUTE BREAK]
11:06:20PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
11:06:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:06:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
11:06:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
11:06:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
11:06:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HERE.
11:06:27PM PRESENT.
11:06:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
11:06:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
11:06:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
11:06:33PM >>THE CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
11:06:35PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:06:38PM ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE FY '24 OPERATING BUDGET THAT INCLUDES
11:06:44PM REVISIONS TO SECTION 5 THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON REQUESTED AND
11:06:47PM THAT YOU ALL APPROVED BY MOTION.
11:06:48PM LET ME HAND THAT OUT TO YOU ALL.
11:06:50PM THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT ITEM YOU ALL WILL CONSIDER.
11:07:13PM THE OTHER ITEM I WOULD LIKE TO HAND OUT TO YOU IS THE
11:07:16PM REVISED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND BUDGET, PER YOUR
11:07:22PM VARIOUS MOTIONS TONIGHT.
11:07:24PM LET ME HAND THAT OUT.
11:07:24PM THAT WOULD BE THE LAST ITEM YOU ALL CONSIDER TONIGHT.
11:07:28PM THERE IS A RESOLUTION ALREADY WITH THE CLERK THAT DOES STATE
11:07:31PM THAT THE CIP AS APPROVED AND AS MODIFIED AND AMENDED BY THE
11:07:36PM CITY COUNCIL AND APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
11:07:37PM IT INCLUDES MODIFICATIONS TO THE CIP THAT YOU'VE APPROVED
11:07:42PM TONIGHT.
11:07:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:07:43PM MR. ROGERO, I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME WE WILL ASK THE FINANCE
11:07:48PM CHAIR TO READ THE ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING FOR ADOPTION
11:07:56PM OF THIS BUDGET.
11:07:56PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
11:07:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:07:59PM YOU WANT ME TO START NOW?
11:08:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
11:08:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ORDINANCE ADOPTING THE BUDGET OF CITY OF
11:08:04PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, FOR THE FISCAL YEAR BEGINNING OCTOBER 1,
11:08:08PM 2023 AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30, 2024, PROVIDING FOR THE LEVY
11:08:13PM AS PROVIDED BY LAW OF A TAX ON ALL TAXABLE PROPERTIES FROM
11:08:17PM THE CITY OF TAMPA AND FIXING THE MILLAGE WITHIN SAID CITY.
11:08:21PM MAKING APPROPRIATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF
11:08:24PM SAID BUDGET, AUTHORIZING AND DIRECTING THE MAYOR AND CITY
11:08:27PM CLERK AS THE PROPER AUTHORITIES OF THE CITY OF TAMPA TO
11:08:30PM CERTIFY THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
11:08:33PM FLORIDA, THE MILLAGE TO BE LEVIED FOR ALL PURPOSES FOR THE
11:08:38PM FISCAL YEAR 2024 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, PROVIDING FOR AN
11:08:42PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:08:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:08:45PM MIRANDA.
11:08:46PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:08:46PM A SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:08:50PM AT THIS TIME, LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:08:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:08:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:08:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:08:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:09:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:09:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:09:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:09:02PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:09:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:09:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST LOOKED THROUGH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
11:09:10PM PROGRAM ADJUSTMENTS AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:09:13PM I KNOW THEY ARE STILL RATHER FLUID, BUT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT
11:09:18PM I WAS LOOKING FOR.
11:09:19PM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:09:19PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:09:21PM YOU'RE WELCOME.
11:09:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WOULD YOU LIKE TO
11:09:24PM MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR ADOPT THE FY '24 CAPITAL
11:09:26PM IMPROVEMENT BUDGET?
11:09:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD.
11:09:28PM I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE 2024 THROUGH FY 2028 CAPITAL
11:09:36PM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
11:09:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT SUFFICIENT FOR THE MOTION?
11:09:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M SORRY.
11:09:44PM I'M JUST MOVING THE RESOLUTION.
11:09:45PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:09:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT WAS HANDED OUT IS GOING TO BE --
11:09:51PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU DON'T HAVE THE SCRIPT.
11:09:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, I DON'T HAVE THE SCRIPT.
11:09:55PM NONE OF US HAVE --
11:09:58PM >> I MOVE THE RESOLUTION BUT I WOULD REFERENCE IN ACCORDANCE
11:10:00PM WITH THE REVISED CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM --
11:10:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: -- IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE REVISED FY 2024
11:10:09PM THROUGH 2028 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
11:10:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:10:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
11:10:13PM HURTAK.
11:10:14PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:10:15PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:10:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:10:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:10:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:10:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:10:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:10:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:10:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:10:27PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:10:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:29PM AND THEN THE FINAL ACTION, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE
11:10:33PM AND FILE ALL WRITTEN DOCUMENTS PROVIDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL
11:10:37PM TONIGHT, INCLUDING THE FY '2024 OPERATING BUDGET AS MODIFIED
11:10:42PM TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE MILLAGE RATE OF 6.2076 MILLS.
11:10:47PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, SECOND FROM
11:10:51PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:10:52PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:10:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:10:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:10:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:10:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:10:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:11:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:11:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:11:02PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:11:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THIS TIME --
11:11:08PM >> MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:11:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:11:10PM ALREADY DID THAT.
11:11:11PM MOTION TO CLOSE THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
11:11:13PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:11:14PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
11:11:15PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:11:17PM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:11:18PM AYE.
11:11:18PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
11:11:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAIT, WAIT.
11:11:22PM WAS THERE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
11:11:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:11:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I MOVED IT.
11:11:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE READ IT OUT.
11:11:28PM YES, SIR.
11:11:29PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:11:30PM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:11:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:11:31PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
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