TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 21, 2023, 9:00 A.M.
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8:52:35AM
9:04:51AM >> -- AND HAS LIVED IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA FOR THE PAST 31
9:04:53AM YEARS.
9:04:55AM SHE CURRENTLY SERVES ON THE PASTORAL TEAM AT ANOINTED WORD
9:04:58AM CHURCH OF TAMPA BAY WHERE HER HUSBAND ROY IS THE SENIOR
9:05:00AM PASTOR.
9:05:01AM SHE IS ALSO AN AUTHOR, SPEAKER, LIFE COACH.
9:05:04AM PASTOR HAYES HAS SERVED IN THE COMMUNITY IN SEVERAL
9:05:07AM CAPACITIES, INCLUDING THE MAYOR'S AFRICAN AMERICAN ADVISORY
9:05:09AM COUNCIL, THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMMISSION ON HUMAN
9:05:11AM TRAFFICKING, AND THE 2020 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY COMPLETE COUNT
9:05:15AM COMMITTEE.
9:05:16AM PASTOR HAYES IS A MEMBER OF DELTA SIGMA THETA SORORITY,
9:05:21AM INCORPORATED WHERE SHE HAS SERVED IN SEVERAL LOCAL,
9:05:24AM REGIONAL, AND NATIONAL POSITIONS AND SHE IS A GRADUATE OF
9:05:27AM SPELMAN COLLEGE.
9:05:28AM PLEASE WELCOME PASTOR BRENNA HAYES.
9:05:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE CAN GET THE SCREEN UP TOP TO WORK.
9:05:37AM WE DON'T SEE IT.
9:05:39AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:05:40AM LET US PRAY.
9:05:42AM GOOD MORNING, GOD.
9:05:45AM THANK YOU FOR THIS NEW DAY THAT YOU'VE ALLOWED US TO
9:05:48AM EXPERIENCE.
9:05:49AM WE ACKNOWLEDGE YOU AS OUR CREATOR AND SUSTAINER AND THE GOD
9:05:53AM WHO IS LOVING AND KIND.
9:05:55AM WE THANK YOU FOR THIS MEETING AND FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
9:05:58AM OF SERVICE TO THE TAMPA COMMUNITY.
9:06:01AM THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY LEADERS WHO HAVE COMMITTED THEMSELVES
9:06:04AM TO REPRESENT THE CITY -- THE CITIZENS OF THIS GREAT CITY AND
9:06:09AM WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM THE WISDOM, COMPASSION, AND
9:06:12AM GUIDANCE NEEDED TO SERVE WELL.
9:06:15AM BLESS THE DELIBERATIONS THAT WILL OCCUR TODAY AND MAY THE
9:06:19AM DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE BE LED BY YOUR WISDOM FOR THE
9:06:23AM BETTERMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
9:06:24AM LASTLY, GOD, AS WE AS THE CITY PREPARES TO CELEBRATE
9:06:31AM HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGE AND UNIVERSITY WEEK, WE ARE
9:06:33AM GRATEFUL FOR THE CONTRIBUTIONS THAT THESE INSTITUTIONS AND
9:06:36AM THEIR GRADUATES HAVE MADE TO OUR COMMUNITIES.
9:06:39AM AND IN EVERYTHING WE DO, GOD, WE GIVE YOU GLORY AND PRAISE,
9:06:44AM AND IT'S IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
9:06:48AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:07:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:07:03AM IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:07:05AM THERE WE ARE.
9:07:07AM IT'S BROADCASTING.
9:07:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:07:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:07:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:07:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:07:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:07:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:07:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:07:16AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:07:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:07:18AM LET'S GET THE ADOPTION OF THE MINUTES.
9:07:20AM THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR THE EVENING SESSION FROM SEPTEMBER
9:07:23AM 5, 2023, THE REGULAR SESSION FROM SEPTEMBER 7, 2023, THE
9:07:26AM BUDGET WORKSHOP SESSION ON SEPTEMBER 13, 2023, AND THE
9:07:30AM EVENING SESSION HELD ON SEPTEMBER 14, 2023.
9:07:33AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:07:35AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
9:07:37AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:07:37AM AYE.
9:07:38AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:07:39AM ALL RIGHT.
9:07:40AM LET'S GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
9:07:42AM I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
9:07:44AM RECEIVED A MEMO FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ASKING TO PULL
9:07:46AM ITEMS 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, AND 41 FOR DISCUSSION AND TO
9:07:53AM BE HEARD TOGETHER.
9:07:54AM WE WILL DO THIS FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:07:56AM IS THAT CORRECT?
9:07:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, AND STAFF IS AWARE AND PREPARED.
9:08:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXCELLENT.
9:08:02AM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:08:03AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
9:08:04AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:08:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:06AM AYE.
9:08:07AM ITEM NUMBER -- WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
9:08:19AM TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 28.
9:08:23AM LET ME TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
9:08:25AM WOULD YOU LIKE THAT UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
9:08:26AM WE'LL PULL ITEM 28 PULLED FOR DISCUSSION AND PLACED UNDER
9:08:30AM STAFF REPORTS.
9:08:31AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WITH A MOTION.
9:08:33AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:08:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:36AM >> AYE.
9:08:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:08:37AM NEXT UP, WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM MR. ALIS DRUMGO TO CONTINUE
9:08:42AM ITEM NUMBER 40 TO OCTOBER 5th.
9:08:45AM IS THAT CORRECT, SIR?
9:08:46AM ALL RIGHT.
9:08:47AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:08:50AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
9:08:51AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:08:52AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:54AM >> AYE.
9:08:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:08:54AM WE'VE CONTINUED ITEM NUMBER 40.
9:08:57AM LET'S SEE HERE.
9:08:59AM ITEMS NUMBER 63 AND 64 ARE TO BE HEARD TOGETHER.
9:09:05AM IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION OR STAFF NEEDED, CAN WE MOVE THAT
9:09:09AM TO THE END OF THE CONSENT DOCKET, COUNCIL MEMBERS --
9:09:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
9:09:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:09:17AM ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
9:09:18AM WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF PRESENT FOR 63 AND 64?
9:09:22AM NO.
9:09:22AM OKAY.
9:09:23AM WE WILL HEAR THOSE AT THE END OF THE CONSENT DOCKET.
9:09:26AM LET'S GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS.
9:09:27AM ALSO, JUST TO BE AWARE THAT AT 11:00, I AM GOING TO ANNOUNCE
9:09:34AM WE WILL BE GOING INTO A CLOSED SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH
9:09:36AM FLORIDA STATUTE SECTION 286.0018.
9:09:39AM I'LL GO THROUGH THE DETAILS AT THAT TIME.
9:09:41AM ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM YOU, CHIEF
9:09:49AM BENNETT?
9:09:53AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:09:55AM ORIGINALLY I DID NOT, BUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING
9:09:58AM HISTORICAL BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES, IF I COULD HAVE
9:10:02AM JUST 10 SECONDS TO SHARE SOMETHING WITH COUNCIL.
9:10:05AM EVERY WEEK BEFORE COUNCIL I GET AN EBO REPORT FROM THE EQUAL
9:10:09AM BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY.
9:10:10AM I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT BLACK BUSINESS ENTERPRISE, WORTH
9:10:14AM OVER $46.6 MILLION WORTH OF SERVICES AND GOODS TO THE CITY.
9:10:19AM I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS WORTH SHARING WITH COUNCIL AND THE
9:10:21AM PUBLIC THIS MORNING.
9:10:22AM THANK YOU.
9:10:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:10:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: CHIEF BENNETT, I JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY
9:10:30AM THANK YOU AGAIN AND THE MAYOR AND ALL THE STAFF FOR THE
9:10:32AM COLLABORATIVE PROCESS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
9:10:35AM I ALSO TEXTED THE MAYOR.
9:10:37AM I THINK THAT PROCESS, IT WASN'T PERFECT.
9:10:39AM EVERYBODY HAD THEIR PLUSES AND MINUSES BUT IT IS AN EXAMPLE
9:10:43AM OF WHAT WE CAN DO GOING FORWARD IF WE ALL WORK TOGETHER.
9:10:46AM I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR DOING THAT.
9:10:48AM >>JOHN BENNETT: THANK YOU.
9:10:49AM STAFF WORKED HARD ON THAT.
9:10:50AM I WANT TO MENTION, I KNOW MR. JAMES RANSOM WAS HERE, AND HE
9:10:56AM WAS A BIG SUPPORTER OF GETTING OUR EBO TOGETHER.
9:10:59AM COUNCIL HAS BEEN A BIG ADVOCATE.
9:11:01AM CREDIT FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER JOHN DINGFELDER FOR A LOT OF
9:11:04AM THE APPROACH TO GET OUR EQUAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY WHERE IT
9:11:07AM NEEDS TO BE.
9:11:07AM THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THAT.
9:11:08AM I THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH POINTING OUT THIS MORNING.
9:11:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO NOTHING FURTHER?
9:11:12AM >>JOHN BENNETT: NOTHING FURTHER.
9:11:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:11:14AM 63 AND 64 WE ALREADY DISCUSSED.
9:11:16AM WE'LL TAKE THOSE AT THE END OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.
9:11:18AM ITEM NUMBER 65, I WOULD LIKE -- THERE IS A MEMO FROM MR.
9:11:23AM BHIDE, TRANSMITTING A WRITTEN REPORT, BUT THIS IS TO DISCUSS
9:11:27AM AN UPDATE ON THE STORMWATER PROJECT AND PROGRAM.
9:11:29AM WE MAY HEAR DURING PUBLIC COMMENT SOME OTHER STORMWATER
9:11:33AM ISSUES WHICH I'M GOING TO BRING UP AT THAT TIME.
9:11:36AM DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING?
9:11:37AM WE'LL HAVE MR. BHIDE PRESENT FOR 65.
9:11:40AM ITEM NUMBER 66, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:11:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL
9:11:46AM THE OCTOBER 26th WORKSHOP.
9:11:50AM THE ADMINISTRATION DID RESPOND WITH A MEMO.
9:11:53AM UNFORTUNATELY, THAT MEMO DID NOT ASK THE QUESTIONS THAT I
9:11:55AM HAD ASKED FOR.
9:11:57AM IT WAS WOEFULLY INADEQUATE AND WE NEED TO GATHER MORE
9:12:00AM INFORMATION BEFORE WE CAN APPROPRIATELY DISCUSS THIS.
9:12:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:12:04AM SECOND FROM CARLSON.
9:12:05AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:12:06AM AYE.
9:12:07AM THAT'S BEEN CONTINUED.
9:12:08AM ITEM 67, WRITTEN REPORT.
9:12:09AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THIS IS YOUR MOTION.
9:12:10AM WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF PRESENT?
9:12:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, AND MR. SHELBY CAN
9:12:18AM HELP ME ON THIS, THINGS HAVE CHANGED, AND THERE'S NOT MUCH
9:12:22AM WE CAN ACTUALLY DISCUSS AT THIS CURRENT TIME.
9:12:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN, IF YOU WISH TO RECEIVE AND FILE
9:12:30AM AT THIS TIME OR WHEN THE ITEM COMES UP PERHAPS AFTER PUBLIC
9:12:33AM COMMENT IN THE ORDER OF BUSINESS YOU CAN DO A RECEIVE AND
9:12:37AM FILE AT THAT TIME.
9:12:38AM BUT YOU HAVE A MEMO FROM DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY CATE WELLS WHO
9:12:42AM IS PRESENT AND ABBYE FEELEY, THE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR
9:12:45AM DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT, AND WHEN WE GET TO THAT
9:12:48AM ITEM, IF IT'S DISCUSSED, WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A
9:12:52AM DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
9:12:52AM BUT WE DO NOT ANTICIPATE COUNCIL'S -- IT WILL BE THE LEGAL
9:12:57AM DEPARTMENT AND MY RECOMMENDATION THAT COUNCIL NOT DISCUSS
9:13:00AM THIS.
9:13:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHOULD WE RECEIVE AND FILE AFTER PUBLIC
9:13:04AM COMMENT JUST IN CASE ANYBODY IS HERE TO SPEAK ON IT?
9:13:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY SUGGESTION IS WHY DON'T YOU HEAR WHAT
9:13:12AM THEY HAVE TO SAY AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME WE CAN RECEIVE
9:13:15AM AND FILE.
9:13:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
9:13:16AM ITEM NUMBER 68 IS A MEMO.
9:13:19AM ARE WE SATISFIED WITH THE MEMO?
9:13:21AM DO YOU NEED STAFF PRESENT?
9:13:22AM I SEE IT'S COMING FROM MR. BENSON.
9:13:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE JUST LEAVE IT ON?
9:13:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL KEEP MR. BENSON ON STANDBY FOR 68.
9:13:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, FOR BACK-TO-BACK COMMENDATIONS CAN
9:13:41AM WE DO 1, 3, 2?
9:13:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FINE.
9:13:44AM ANY OBJECTION FROM COUNCIL?
9:13:46AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM
9:13:49AM TO THE AGENDA?
9:13:49AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:13:51AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:13:53AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:13:53AM AYE.
9:13:54AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, GO AHEAD.
9:14:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT'S A REAL PLEASURE HERE TODAY TO HONOR A GUY
9:14:14AM THAT I REALLY LIKE A LOT AND I'VE KNOWN FOR A VERY LONG
9:14:17AM TIME.
9:14:17AM COME UP HERE, JUDGE.
9:14:19AM IT'S FUNNY.
9:14:20AM FOLKS, EVEN LONG AFTER THEY RETIRE, IF YOU'RE AN ATTORNEY
9:14:24AM YOU ALWAYS CALL THEM A JUDGE.
9:14:26AM THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
9:14:27AM WE'RE HONORED HERE TO HAVE OUR GOOD FRIEND, JUDGE REX
9:14:30AM BARBAS, WHO HAS SERVED THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT WITH
9:14:33AM HONOR AND DISTINCTION AS A JUDGE SINCE 1997 AND HAS JUST
9:14:37AM RETIRED.
9:14:38AM HE'S HERE WITH MANY FRIENDS AND SUPPORTERS, INCLUDING HIS
9:14:41AM WONDERFUL WIFE, DONNA, WHO IS HERE.
9:14:44AM HIS WONDERFUL BROTHER RAND OHIO IS HERE.
9:14:45AM HIS WONDERFUL NIECE WHO IS HERE AND HIS NIECE'S HUSBAND,
9:14:52AM JAKE CREMER.
9:14:53AM BUT JUDGE BARBAS IS A REALLY, REALLY EXCEPTIONAL INDIVIDUAL
9:14:59AM WHO GRADUATED FROM JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN WOULD GO TO
9:15:02AM LOYOLA, UNDERGRADUATE IN LOYOLA LAW SCHOOL, GRADUATED 1975.
9:15:09AM BEGAN HIS CAREER AS ASSISTANT PROSECUTOR, HILLSBOROUGH
9:15:12AM COUNTY PROSECUTOR, FROM 1975 UNTIL 1980.
9:15:16AM THEN HE WOULD ENTER THE PRIVATE PRACTICE AND CREATE THE LAW
9:15:19AM FIRM OF MITCHAM, WEED, BARBAS, ALLEN & MORGAN, WHICH IS NOW
9:15:22AM BARBAS, NUNEZ, SANDERS, BUTLER & HOVSEPIAN.
9:15:23AM A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS FROM THIS LAW FIRM WOULD BECOME
9:15:28AM JUDGES AS WELL AS JUDGE REX BARBAS, INCLUDING THE LATE GREAT
9:15:32AM JUDGE BOB MITCHAM WHO I KNEW WAS A WONDERFUL MAN.
9:15:36AM CHARLOTTE ANDERSON AND DIANA ALLEN.
9:15:39AM JUDGE REX BARBAS IS BOARD CERTIFIED IN CIVIL TRIAL LAW AND
9:15:42AM WOULD EXCEL IN THE PRACTICE OF LAW, INCLUDING TEACHING
9:15:45AM CLASSES AT USF AND FOR OUR TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:15:48AM HE WOULD CREATE -- AND THIS IS INTERESTING, I DID A LITTLE
9:15:53AM RESEARCH -- I FOUND THAT HE WOULD CREATE THE FIRST GUAVAWEEN
9:15:58AM FESTIVAL WHILE SERVING ON THE BOARD OF THE YBOR CITY CHAMBER
9:16:00AM OF COMMERCE.
9:16:01AM HIS FAMILY HAS VERY, VERY DEEP ROOTS IN YBOR CITY THAT THEY
9:16:04AM ARE ALL VERY, VERY PROUD OF.
9:16:05AM IN 1996, HE WOULD RUN FOR AND JOIN THE CIRCUIT COURT WHERE
9:16:09AM HE WOULD SERVE WITH GREAT DISTINCTION.
9:16:12AM HE IS A MAN OF MANY, MANY PASSIONS.
9:16:14AM HIS EXCELLENCE IN THE PRACTICE OF LAW IS OPEN AND OBVIOUS
9:16:17AM AND EVERYBODY KNOWS ABOUT IT, BUT HE'S ALSO INVOLVED IN A
9:16:20AM LOT OF DIFFERENT INITIATIVES.
9:16:22AM FOR 12, 13 YEARS, JUDGE BARBAS, AS WELL AS JUDGE NICK HAS
9:16:28AM SERVED AS SENSORY FRIENDLY SANTA SEEING PROBABLY ABOUT 1500
9:16:33AM KIDS, IF NOT MORE.
9:16:34AM MAYBE 2,000 WHO HAVE AUTISM AND DIFFERENT INTELLECTUAL
9:16:38AM DISABILITIES AS OUR SENSORY FRIENDLY SANTA FOR LAWYERS
9:16:43AM AUTISM AWARENESS FOUNDATION.
9:16:43AM AND SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY NEAT ALSO ABOUT JUDGE BARBAS
9:16:46AM WITH HIS WONDERFUL WIFE IS THEY HAVE BARBAS FINE ART, WHICH
9:16:51AM IS AT 4223 WEST BAY TO BAY, AND THEY ARE ARTISTS AND DO
9:16:54AM PAINTINGS AND DIFFERENT THINGS, AND JUDGE BARBAS DOES
9:16:58AM AMAZING WORK.
9:16:59AM HE IS DEDICATED -- COUNT IT AS AN ENDORSEMENT.
9:17:04AM JUDGE BARBAS IS A VERY, VERY PROUD FATHER AND GRANDFATHER,
9:17:08AM INCLUDING TO HIS SON STAFF SERGEANT CASEY BARBAS, WHO HAS
9:17:13AM DONE ONE TOUR IN AFGHANISTAN -- STRIKE THAT -- ONE TOUR IN
9:17:16AM IRAQ AND TWO TOURS IN AFGHANISTAN FOR HIS COUNTRY.
9:17:20AM NOW JUDGE BARBAS IS WORKING AS A MEDIATOR.
9:17:23AM I WANTED TO TAKE TIME TO HONOR THIS GREAT MAN FOR ALL THAT
9:17:27AM HE HAS DONE FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY THROUGH ALMOST 40 YEARS,
9:17:30AM 37 YEARS OR SO -- 36 YEARS AS HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY JUDGE.
9:17:35AM SINCE I FIRST BECAME AN ATTORNEY 20 YEARS AGO, I'VE KNOWN
9:17:39AM JUDGE REX BARBAS AND KNOWN OF HIS EXCELLENCE AND DEDICATION
9:17:42AM TO THE LAW.
9:17:43AM FOR THIS AND SO MUCH MORE, THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL HONORS
9:17:46AM THIS FINE PUBLIC SERVANT.
9:17:48AM HERE YOU GO, SIR.
9:17:50AM >> THANK YOU.
9:17:50AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:17:55AM >> REAL QUICK, FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU
9:18:00AM ALL DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
9:18:03AM THAT'S OBVIOUS FROM LAST WEEK, WHAT YOU'VE DONE
9:18:05AM COLLABORATIVELY.
9:18:06AM I WISH OUR CONGRESS COULD BE AS COLLABORATIVE AS YOU ALL
9:18:09AM ARE.
9:18:10AM I REALLY MEAN THAT.
9:18:11AM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO GIVE -- I'VE GROWN UP WITH TWO
9:18:17AM PRINCIPLES.
9:18:18AM AND BOTH OF THEM FROM JESUIT.
9:18:21AM FIRST ONE IS THE LAND MODEL OF THE JESUITS.
9:18:26AM FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD.
9:18:28AM EVERYTHING SHOULD BE DONE FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD.
9:18:31AM GIVE GREAT PRAISE AND THANKS.
9:18:37AM THE OTHER MOTTO IS FROM MY HIGH SCHOOL.
9:18:40AM BECOME A MAN FOR OTHERS.
9:18:42AM AND THAT'S WHAT I'VE TRIED TO DO WITH MY ENTIRE CAREER AND I
9:18:47AM HOPE TO CONTINUE TO DO IT, EVEN IN RETIREMENT.
9:18:50AM BUT BEYOND THAT, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS
9:18:54AM GREAT HONOR.
9:18:55AM I REALLY BELIEVE IT'S A GREAT HONOR.
9:19:00AM I'VE SAID BEYOND ME, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GREAT FAMILY, AND I
9:19:04AM DO HAVE A PHENOMENAL FAMILY.
9:19:07AM NOT JUST A GREAT ONE, A PHENOMENAL.
9:19:11AM THEY HAVE STOOD BY ME IN EVERY RESPECT.
9:19:14AM THEY HAVE BEEN THERE WHEN I'VE NEEDED THEM.
9:19:17AM THEY'VE BEEN THERE WHEN I WAS HOSPITALIZED AND IN REHAB FOR
9:19:20AM A YEAR.
9:19:21AM MY BROTHER, I CAN'T EXPRESS HOW MUCH I LOVE HIM.
9:19:27AM MY WIFE.
9:19:29AM I COULDN'T HAVE ASKED FOR A BETTER PARTNER IN LIFE.
9:19:32AM AND MY NIECE AND MY NEPHEW, BECAUSE HE IS MY NEPHEW, CAN'T
9:19:39AM SAY ENOUGH WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT THEM AND WHAT THEY DO FOR
9:19:41AM THE COMMUNITY.
9:19:42AM FIRST FAMILY AND THEN FRIENDS AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE
9:19:48AM HELPED YOU.
9:19:49AM I CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT THE HELP OF OTHERS.
9:19:52AM EVERYBODY I'VE WORKED WITH, THAT'S WHAT HAS GIVEN ME THE
9:19:56AM POWER TO DO WHAT I'VE DONE.
9:19:58AM WITH THAT, I THANK YOU ALL.
9:20:00AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:00AM I'M AT YOUR MERCY.
9:20:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, CONGRATULATIONS.
9:20:08AM THIS IS WELL DESERVED.
9:20:10AM I'VE KNOWN YOU -- I'VE KNOWN OF YOU BECAUSE I WENT TO SCHOOL
9:20:16AM WITH YOUR KIDS BACK IN THE DAY.
9:20:17AM YOU WERE THE COOL DAD BECAUSE YOU HAD A PONYTAIL.
9:20:21AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:20:22AM I REMEMBER ONE DAY, I THINK IT WAS CASEY, THIS GUY PULLS UP
9:20:27AM ON A MOTORCYCLE.
9:20:28AM CASEY GETS ON THE BACK.
9:20:29AM I'M LIKE, WHAT IS THIS?
9:20:30AM EVERYBODY WAS IMPRESSED.
9:20:32AM WHOSE DAD IS PICKING THEM UP ON -- I GUESS IT WAS A HARLEY.
9:20:36AM I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH YOUR KIDS.
9:20:37AM CASEY WAS A YEAR YOUNGER.
9:20:39AM CARLOS A YEAR OLDER.
9:20:41AM YOUR DAUGHTER WAS EVEN YOUNGER.
9:20:42AM I KNOW YOUR FAMILY AND TERIN HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND HER
9:20:49AM HUSBAND.
9:20:51AM I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW YOU MORE POLITICALLY AND WHATNOT.
9:20:53AM I KNOW YOU KNOW MY DAD AND EVERYTHING.
9:20:57AM YOU'RE A WONDERFUL PERSON, WONDERFUL FAMILY.
9:20:59AM YOU SAID IT ALL.
9:21:00AM YOUR OTHER BROTHER THAT'S NOT HERE, ALL THE COMMITMENT TO
9:21:03AM YBOR CITY AND EVERYTHING THAT HE DOES.
9:21:06AM CONGRATULATIONS AND WELL DESERVED.
9:21:07AM I'M GLAD COUNCILMAN VIERA BROUGHT YOU HERE TODAY.
9:21:10AM THANK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR BEING HERE.
9:21:12AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:21:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:21:15AM I ADMIRE THAT PONYTAIL YOU HAD.
9:21:19AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:21:19AM I'VE KNOWN -- I'M SO YOUNG I REMEMBER YOUR FATHER.
9:21:24AM HE WAS A DOCTOR, I BELIEVE.
9:21:27AM >> YES, SIR.
9:21:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HE EVIDENTLY TAUGHT THE THREE BROTHERS
9:21:32AM AND THE FAMILY WELL BECAUSE OF HIS GIVING HE WORKED AT
9:21:35AM GONZALEZ CLINIC AND OTHER CLINICS.
9:21:37AM THEY WOULD GO TO YOUR HOUSE WHEN YOU GOT SICK AND CHECKED ON
9:21:40AM YOU.
9:21:41AM TODAY THAT'S GONE.
9:21:41AM GUESS WHAT, IT'S COMING AROUND AGAIN.
9:21:43AM IT'S A NEW THING.
9:21:45AM WELL, IT IS A NEW THING THIS YEAR BUT AN OLD THING FROM MANY
9:21:49AM YEARS AGO.
9:21:50AM YOUR FAMILY HAS ALWAYS BEEN REACHING OUT TO HELP ANYONE, NO
9:21:53AM MATTER WHO YOU WERE, WHERE YOU CAME FROM, TO GIVE THEM AN
9:21:56AM OPPORTUNITY TO GO FORWARD.
9:21:57AM I KNOW YOU SPENT A YEAR IN BED AND YOU WENT WITH
9:22:02AM MOTORCYCLES.
9:22:03AM I SPENT A YEAR WITHOUT MOVING MY LEFT LEG BECAUSE I GOT HURT
9:22:06AM WITH A HORSE.
9:22:07AM NOW, YOU HAD A LOT OF HORSEPOWER AND I HAD ONE HORSE AND I
9:22:11AM SPENT AS MUCH TIME, JUST LIKE YOU DID.
9:22:13AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.
9:22:15AM IT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE AND IT'S NOT HOW
9:22:19AM ANYBODY LOOKS OR HOW TALL YOU ARE OR HOW SMALL YOU ARE,
9:22:23AM WHATEVER.
9:22:23AM IT'S WHAT YOU DO TO HELP SOCIETY GIVE SOMEBODY A HAND UP
9:22:27AM INSTEAD OF A PUSH DOWN.
9:22:29AM AND YOU AND YOUR WHOLE FAMILY, ALL OF THEM THAT I KNOW, HAVE
9:22:32AM ALWAYS BEEN WILLING TO GIVE SOMEBODY A HAND UP.
9:22:36AM FOR THAT, IT'S AN HONOR TO SEE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY HERE AND
9:22:39AM IT'S JUST, I FEEL INTENSIFIED THAT I HAVE THE HONOR OF
9:22:44AM KNOWING YOUR FAMILY SINCE I WAS A LITTLE BOY, AND THAT WAS
9:22:47AM ABOUT TEN YEARS AGO.
9:22:48AM CAUGHT THAT ONE?
9:22:49AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:22:49AM THAT MORE LIKELY FLEW RIGHT OVER YOU.
9:22:54AM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE.
9:22:55AM AND YOU CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU CAN DO.
9:22:58AM FOR THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING WHO YOU ARE.
9:23:01AM >> THANK YOU.
9:23:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
9:23:02AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST LEARNED OF YOU.
9:23:05AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:23:05AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE AND WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY
9:23:08AM MUCH.
9:23:09AM >> THANK YOU.
9:23:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER.
9:23:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PUBLIC SERVICE IS LIKE ONE OF THE HIGHEST
9:23:13AM CALLINGS AND DEDICATING YOUR LIFE TO IT.
9:23:15AM ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BECOME A BILLIONAIRE
9:23:18AM BUT YOU GIVE SO MUCH TO THE COMMUNITY.
9:23:19AM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
9:23:22AM I'LL LEAVE IT AT GOD ONLY GRANTS THE PRETTY ONES MORE FACE.
9:23:26AM THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS.
9:23:27AM ISN'T THAT RIGHT, CHARLIE?
9:23:30AM EXACTLY.
9:23:31AM IT'S ONLY THE PRETTY ONES THAT ARE BLESSED THAT GIVES MORE
9:23:35AM FACE.
9:23:35AM THANK YOU.
9:23:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS AND
9:23:39AM CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEING SOMEONE -- WHO HAS BEEN ABLE TO IN
9:23:44AM THEIR CAREER FOLLOW THE TENETS THAT YOU SPOKE OF.
9:23:47AM REALLY FOCUSING YOUR ATTENTION AND YOUR TIME IN LIFE ON
9:23:55AM HELPING OTHERS.
9:23:56AM I THINK THAT IS INCREDIBLY NOBLE AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR
9:23:59AM THAT.
9:23:59AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR OUR
9:24:03AM COMMUNITY AND ALSO CONGRATULATIONS ON RETIREMENT.
9:24:08AM IT'S OFTEN HARD TO KNOW WHEN TO STOP.
9:24:11AM OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO STOP FULL-TIME, BUT YOU'RE
9:24:14AM GOING TO STOP GOING TO AN OFFICE EVERY DAY.
9:24:17AM BUT YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON IN THAT WAY BECAUSE IT'S
9:24:20AM VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT YOU ARE A PERSON WHO WILL FOREVERMORE
9:24:25AM FOLLOW THOSE TWO TENETS AND ONCE THAT'S IN YOU, IT'S HARD TO
9:24:30AM GET OUT, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS FOLLOWED A SORT OF SIMILAR PATH,
9:24:36AM FIGURING OUT WHAT IS RIGHT WITH THE WORLD AND HELPING
9:24:38AM OTHERS.
9:24:39AM THERE IS NO GREATER CALLING.
9:24:42AM AND THANK YOU AND YOUR WONDERFUL FAMILY FOR ALL THE TIME
9:24:45AM THEY HAVE PUT IN.
9:24:46AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN MANY OTHER CAPACITIES.
9:24:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO START -- COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, I
9:24:59AM WANT TO START IN CASE THERE ARE LITTLE KIDS WATCHING TO
9:25:02AM CLARIFY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, HE IS ACTUALLY FRIENDS WITH
9:25:04AM SANTA.
9:25:06AM JUST TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION.
9:25:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: VERY WELL SAID.
9:25:08AM THANK YOU.
9:25:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND THING I WANT TO SAY, THANK YOU FOR
9:25:13AM EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE, LIKE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID AND
9:25:17AM CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT.
9:25:19AM I KNOW YOUR OTHER BROTHER AND TERIN AND JAKE, YOUR OTHER
9:25:25AM BROTHER LIVES ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME SO I SEE HIM ALL THE
9:25:28AM TIME.
9:25:29AM YOUR FAMILY HAS MADE SUCH A GREAT CONTRIBUTION IN SO MANY
9:25:31AM WAYS TO THIS COMMUNITY AND CONTINUING ON THROUGH THE
9:25:34AM GENERATIONS TO DO THAT.
9:25:36AM WE CAN'T THANK YOUR FAMILY ENOUGH.
9:25:38AM AND TO THE FUTURE, YOUR OTHER BROTHER IS VERY INVOLVED IN
9:25:42AM YBOR.
9:25:42AM YOUR FAMILY HAS DEEP ROOTS THERE.
9:25:44AM YOU ALL KNOW A LOT ABOUT THE HISTORY OF YBOR.
9:25:46AM PLEASE JOIN US IN THE EFFORT TO BUILD A NEW YBOR TO MAKE
9:25:49AM SURE WE HOLD ON TO THE GREAT THINGS FROM THE PAST AS WELL.
9:25:52AM LOTS OF VOLUNTEER EFFORTS.
9:25:54AM LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU THERE AND KEEPING YOU REALLY BUSY
9:25:57AM IF YOU HAVE ANY TIME.
9:25:58AM THANK YOU.
9:25:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:25:59AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:26:00AM CONGRATULATIONS.
9:26:00AM >> THANK YOU.
9:26:01AM I APPRECIATE IT.
9:26:01AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:26:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, WE'LL GO TO NUMBER 3
9:26:17AM AND THEN TO NUMBER 2.
9:26:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING AGAIN.
9:26:21AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
9:26:22AM NEXT WEEK IS BY WHITE HOUSE INITIATIVE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN
9:26:28AM SIGNED AN INITIATIVE TO CELEBRATE AND RECOGNIZE HISTORICALLY
9:26:31AM BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES.
9:26:35AM RIGHT HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND IN THE MUNICIPAL
9:26:40AM GOVERNMENT, WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE WHO SERVE THE CITY WHO HAVE
9:26:44AM GRADUATED FROM HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES.
9:26:46AM JUST A FEW OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY.
9:26:49AM WE'RE GOING TO BE RECOGNIZING THEM ALL WEEK DURING THE LUNCH
9:26:54AM HOURS.
9:26:54AM WHAT IS THAT ROOM CALLED?
9:26:55AM IN THE SISTER CITY ROOM.
9:26:58AM ON FRIDAY, I'M INVITING THOSE GRADUATES AND ALUMNI AND
9:27:02AM SUPPORTERS TO A RECEPTION DURING THE LUNCH HOUR ON FRIDAY.
9:27:06AM BUT JUST TO SHOW YOU THE IMPACT, EVEN IN THE SMALLEST WAY
9:27:10AM THIS MORNING, THERE ARE SEVERAL OF US IN THE ROOM WHO HAVE
9:27:14AM ATTENDED HBCUs.
9:27:17AM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR HAND.
9:27:18AM DARLENE BETHUNE-COOKMAN UNIVERSITY.
9:27:21AM NICOLE TRAVIS, HAMPTON UNIVERSITY.
9:27:24AM MY SORORITY SISTER BROUGHT THE INVOCATION FROM SPELMAN
9:27:28AM COLLEGE.
9:27:29AM MYSELF, GRADUATE OF FLORIDA A & M UNIVERSITY.
9:27:33AM MS. MARY, OUR AIDE TO CHARLIE MIRANDA, HER DAUGHTER IS A
9:27:36AM GRADUATE OF FLORIDA A & M UNIVERSITY.
9:27:39AM IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT I'M MISSING OUT HERE TODAY?
9:27:42AM MS. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, FLORIDA A & M RATTLERS.
9:27:48AM I COULD GO ON AND ON.
9:27:50AM I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT OUR CITY PAYS HOMAGE TO THE
9:27:56AM MANY, MANY, MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
9:27:58AM IF I STARTED, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO STOP WITH THOSE WHO HAVE
9:27:59AM BROKEN BARRIERS RIGHT HERE IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT.
9:28:01AM GEORGE E. EDGECOMB, HIS NAME IS ON A BUILDING TODAY.
9:28:04AM HE IS A GRADUATE OF MOREHOUSE COLLEGE AND HOWARD UNIVERSITY
9:28:07AM OF LAW.
9:28:08AM I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON.
9:28:10AM I THINK IT IS JUST IMPORTANT AND I'M SO HUMBLED THAT THE
9:28:13AM COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY MOVED THIS MOTION SO THAT WE CAN YEAR
9:28:17AM AFTER YEAR BRING THIS RECOGNITION TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT
9:28:21AM JUST GETS BIGGER AND BETTER.
9:28:22AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:28:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:28:24AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:28:24AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:28:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE WOULD HAVE A PROCLAMATION NEXT WEEK.
9:28:35AM I'M KIND OF NEW TO THIS STUFF UP HERE.
9:28:37AM WE WILL HAVE THE PROCLAMATION NEXT WEEK ALONG WITH THE
9:28:40AM RECOGNITIONS.
9:28:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA IS STILL OUTSIDE.
9:28:44AM THEY ARE DOING PICTURES.
9:28:45AM IF WE HAVE SOME FROM BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS HERE, IF
9:28:49AM THEY ARE READY TO PRESENT.
9:28:51AM ARE YOU MR. CHAD MITCHELL?
9:28:52AM >> YES, I AM.
9:28:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP.
9:28:54AM MR. CHAD MITCHELL, VP OF PARTNERSHIP AND ENGAGEMENT OF BIG
9:28:57AM BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF TAMPA BAY.
9:28:59AM YOU'LL PROVIDE A SHORT OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM, INCLUDING
9:29:02AM HOW THE CITY IS SUPPORTING.
9:29:04AM I BELIEVE YOU HAVE A VIDEO AT THE END.
9:29:06AM >> I DO.
9:29:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, WE WENT TO NUMBER 4
9:29:09AM AND THEN WE'LL GO TO 2.
9:29:10AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:29:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:29:12AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
9:29:14AM TODAY.
9:29:16AM I AM THE VP OF PARTNERSHIP ENGAGEMENT.
9:29:19AM BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'M A HUSBAND, I'M THE FATHER OF TWO
9:29:22AM YOUNG MEN, AND I'M ALSO A BIG BROTHER, AKA, MENTOR TO AN
9:29:25AM EIGHT-YEAR-OLD LITTLE BOY.
9:29:29AM BUT AS FAR AS THE MISSION OF BIG BROTHERS AND BIG SISTERS,
9:29:30AM IT IS REALLY TO CREATE AND SUPPORT ONE-TO-ONE MENTORING
9:29:34AM RELATIONSHIPS THAT HELP IGNITE THE POWER AND THE PROMISE OF
9:29:34AM OUR YOUTH.
9:29:37AM WE REALIZE THAT WE CAN'T REACH THOSE PARTICULAR GOALS
9:29:40AM WITHOUT INDIVIDUALS LIKE YOURSELVES THAT ARE WILLING TO
9:29:42AM STAND IN THE GAP AND BE THOSE ONE-TO-ONE MENTORS.
9:29:44AM AND SPEAKING ABOUT THOSE INDIVIDUALS, WE CALL THEM DEFENDERS
9:29:46AM OF POTENTIAL.
9:29:47AM I WANT TO QUICKLY JUST GIVE HAVE A SHOUT-OUT TO THE CITY OF
9:29:50AM TAMPA, THE MAYOR AND HER TEAM.
9:29:51AM THEY ARE TRULY DEFENDERS OF POTENTIAL.
9:29:54AM NOT ONLY HAVE THEY INTRODUCED US TO ALL BRANCHES OF THE CITY
9:29:57AM IN REGARDS TO THOSE INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEES AND GIVING THEM THE
9:30:00AM OPPORTUNITY TO EMPOWER THEM TO VOLUNTEER AND STEP IN THAT
9:30:03AM GAP, BUT THEY HAVE ALSO PARTNERED WITH US ON OUR SCHOOL TO
9:30:06AM WORK PROGRAM, TAKING THOSE KIDS OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL AT A
9:30:10AM JUNIOR -- AT THE JUNIOR LEVEL AND GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY
9:30:12AM TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT THE POSSIBILITIES THAT EXIST UPON
9:30:15AM GRADUATION.
9:30:15AM SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM.
9:30:17AM WE HAVE THE MAYOR'S BIG INITIATIVE, WHICH IS TO GET 50 PLUS
9:30:20AM EMPLOYEES ON A CONSISTENT BASIS THAT ARE CONSISTENTLY
9:30:23AM VOLUNTEERING WITH US.
9:30:24AM AND SO THAT'S GOING GREAT.
9:30:25AM I TRULY, TRULY, TRULY JUST WANT TO GIVE KUDOS TO THEM.
9:30:28AM ALSO KUDOS TO OUR ALPHAS.
9:30:30AM I SEE SOME ALPHAS IN THE ROOM.
9:30:33AM GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH ALPHA PHI ALPHA.
9:30:35AM IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE MEN OF TOMORROW PROGRAM, A NATIONAL
9:30:39AM PARTNERSHIP.
9:30:39AM WE'RE LEADING IN TAMPA BAY.
9:30:41AM WHEN THEY HAD THEIR NATIONAL CONFERENCE OUT IN DALLAS THAT
9:30:43AM WAS ONE OF THE THINGS TOP OF MIND.
9:30:46AM EVERY SINGLE AGENCY ACROSS BIG BROTHERS/BIG SISTERS IS
9:30:50AM FOLLOWING TAMPA IN REGARDS TO THE PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH
9:30:52AM ALPHA PHI ALPHA.
9:30:55AM BUT GETTING INTO THE PROGRAM, I BRIEFLY TALKED A LITTLE BIT
9:30:58AM ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT WE HAVE A
9:31:00AM SITE-BASED PROGRAM, ONE HOUR A WEEK, AS LITTLE AS ONE HOUR A
9:31:05AM WEEK, YOU CAN MAKE THAT LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE, BUT IT MAKES A
9:31:08AM BIG DIFFERENCE IN THAT CHILD'S LIFE.
9:31:12AM ONE HOUR A WEEK YOU CAN GO TO A LOCAL SCHOOL AND BE THAT
9:31:15AM ONE-TO-ONE MENTOR.
9:31:17AM ALSO A COMMUNITY BASED, WHERE YOU PICK THEM UP AT HOME, TAKE
9:31:20AM THEM OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND SPEND THE TIME WITH THEM AS
9:31:23AM WELL.
9:31:23AM QUICK STORY, SOMEBODY ASKED ME, WHAT DOES ONE HOUR A WEEK DO
9:31:27AM FOR A CHILD?
9:31:27AM HOW CAN I MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR ONE HOUR A WEEK?
9:31:30AM I HAD A MOTHER COME TO US ONE TIME.
9:31:32AM SHE CAME TO OUR SITE-BASED PROGRAM.
9:31:34AM SHE SAID I NEEDED HELP.
9:31:36AM SHE WAS A SINGLE MOTHER.
9:31:37AM SHE HAD A YOUNG BOY IN HER LIFE AND ALSO AN OLDER DAUGHTER.
9:31:42AM BUT SHE WANTED TO GET HIM CONNECTED IN THE SITE BASED
9:31:45AM PROGRAM.
9:31:45AM WHEN HE GOT CONNECTED ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES HE HAD, HE
9:31:48AM HATED MATH.
9:31:49AM COULDN'T STAND MATH.
9:31:50AM HE THOUGHT THE MATH TEACHER HATED HIM.
9:31:53AM IT CAUSED A RIFF BETWEEN HIM AND HIS MOM.
9:31:56AM DIDN'T WANT TO GET UP TO SCHOOL.
9:31:59AM SHE WANTED A MALE FIGURE TO COME INTO HIS LIFE KNOWING HE
9:32:03AM UNFORTUNATELY DIDN'T HAVE THAT AT HOME.
9:32:04AM WHEN HE WAS CONNECTED IN OUR SITE BASED PROGRAM, THAT ONE
9:32:08AM HOUR A WEEK, THIS GENTLEMAN STARTED TO SEE HIM AT HIS SCHOOL
9:32:12AM AMONG ALL HIS FRIENDS, HEY, WHO IS THAT?
9:32:14AM CAN WE HANG OUT WITH YOU?
9:32:16AM HIS BIG WANTED TO HANG OUT WITH HIM.
9:32:18AM WANTED TO SPEND THAT ONE-ON-ONE TIME.
9:32:21AM LISTEN, I'LL HANG OUT LATER.
9:32:23AM I'M WITH MY BIG BROTHER.
9:32:25AM IT WASN'T UNTIL HE STARTED SPENDING THAT TIME THAT HE
9:32:28AM STARTED TO REALIZE I REALLY APPRECIATE HIM.
9:32:30AM HE'S HERE.
9:32:31AM HE'S NOT JUST SAYING HE'S GOING TO BE HERE AND NOT COME
9:32:34AM BACK.
9:32:34AM HE'S HERE EVERY SINGLE WEEK AND ONLY FOR ONE HOUR BUT MADE A
9:32:38AM BIG DIFFERENCE.
9:32:39AM ONE DAY THE CHILD LOOKED AT HIM AND SAID, WHAT DO YOU DO FOR
9:32:42AM A LIVING?
9:32:42AM WHAT DO YOU DO OUTSIDE OF HERE?
9:32:44AM HE STARTED TALKING ABOUT HIS OCCUPATION AND THAT HE WAS AN
9:32:46AM ENGINEER.
9:32:48AM KNOWING THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE LITTLE DID NOT LIKE
9:32:51AM WAS MATH, HE ASKED AND SAID, DO YOU GOT TO BE GOOD AT MATH
9:32:55AM TO BE AN ENGINEER?
9:32:56AM IT WAS AT THAT POINT IN TIME WHERE HIS BIG LOOKED AT HIM AND
9:32:59AM SAID YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LIKING FOR MATH.
9:33:02AM DON'T HAVE TO BE EXCELLENT BUT YOU WANT TO GET TO KNOW IT
9:33:05AM AND UNDERSTAND IT.
9:33:07AM AT THAT POINT IN TIME THE YOUNG MAN WENT HOME AND THE MOM
9:33:10AM SHARED WITH ME, WHEN I GOT HOME THAT DAY AND LOOKED AT MY
9:33:13AM DAUGHTER, I WAS BEWILDERED.
9:33:15AM I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON BECAUSE MY SON WAS
9:33:18AM SITTING AT THE KITCHEN TABLE WITH HIS MATH BOOK OPEN DOING
9:33:21AM HIS MATH HOMEWORK.
9:33:23AM I KNOW EVERY SINGLE TIME I COME HOME, I HAVE TO TELL HIM,
9:33:26AM GET THE HOMEWORK OUT.
9:33:28AM IT WAS A STRUGGLE, ARGUMENT.
9:33:29AM HE DECIDED TO DO IT HIMSELF.
9:33:36AM SHE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM.
9:33:38AM WHAT CHANGED YOUR MIND?
9:33:39AM WHY DID YOU OPEN YOUR MATH BOOK ON YOUR OWN?
9:33:42AM HE SAID, I WANT TO BE AN ENGINEER.
9:33:44AM AND MY BIG AT SCHOOL TOLD ME IF I WANT TO BE AN ENGINEER
9:33:47AM THAT I HAVE TO START LIKING MATH.
9:33:49AM IT CHANGED THE WHOLE TRAJECTORY OF HOW HE FELT.
9:33:52AM CHANGED THE TRAJECTORY AT HOME IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNICATION
9:33:55AM BETWEEN HIM AND HIS MOM.
9:33:57AM OVERALL IT CHANGED WHAT HE WANTED TO DO BECAUSE HE LOOKED UP
9:33:59AM AND HE SAW SOMEBODY WHO ONLY SPENT ONE HOUR A WEEK -- ONE
9:34:04AM HOUR A WEEK -- BUT IT MADE THAT BIG OF A DIFFERENCE.
9:34:07AM I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO CONSIDER
9:34:11AM MENTORING A CHILD.
9:34:12AM NOT THAT YOU ALREADY DON'T.
9:34:14AM MAYBE YOU ALREADY DO, BUT WHO IS AROUND YOU THAT YOU MAY
9:34:17AM KNOW WHO CAN DO THAT.
9:34:19AM MAYBE YOU CAN ADVOCATE, VOLUNTEER IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, FORM
9:34:22AM OR FASHION.
9:34:23AM BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, TAKING ON A CHILD FOR AS LITTLE AS ONE
9:34:27AM HOUR A WEEK AND SEEING THE DIFFERENCE IT CAN MAKE IS TRULY
9:34:30AM WHAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS.
9:34:31AM SO MANY TIMES WE LOOK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE ISSUES
9:34:34AM THAT WE'RE FACING.
9:34:36AM WHY ARE THESE YOUTH DOING THIS AND DOING THAT?
9:34:38AM BUT THESE CHILDREN ARE BORN TO DO BAD AND THEY ARE NOT BORN
9:34:42AM TO DO GOOD.
9:34:42AM THEY HAVE NO CLUE.
9:34:44AM THEY ARE TAUGHT.
9:34:44AM WE CAN TEACH THEM THE THINGS TO DO IN A POSITIVE MANNER.
9:34:48AM I'M HERE TODAY TO SAY NOT ONLY THANK YOU TO THE CITY OF
9:34:50AM TAMPA FOR ALL THE SUPPORT THAT I'VE GOTTEN AND THAT WE'VE
9:34:53AM RECEIVED.
9:34:53AM THANK YOU TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU THAT YOU ARE DOING.
9:34:58AM AND THANK YOU TO OUR ALPHAS.
9:35:01AM MORE IMPORTANTLY, LET'S CONTINUE TO TAKE THIS CHARGE
9:35:03AM FORWARD.
9:35:03AM LET'S CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER SO WE CAN MAKE A BETTER
9:35:05AM PLACE HERE IN TAMPA BAY BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE CHILD IS ONE
9:35:10AM CARING ADULT WAY FROM BEING A SUCCESS STORY.
9:35:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:35:14AM WE HAVE A SHORT VIDEO TO SHOW AS WELL, WHICH WE'LL PLAY NOW.
9:35:20AM >> I WOULD ALSO TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE LICENSE PLATE HERE.
9:35:23AM WE ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY PUT THIS IN MOST OF OUR DMVs.
9:35:26AM IF YOU WANT TO SUPPORT IN SOME WAY, WANT TO ADVOCATE, THIS
9:35:30AM IS A GREAT WAY TO DO THAT.
9:35:31AM PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
9:35:33AM WE HOPE EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN HERE WOULD GET ONE.
9:35:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:35:36AM LET'S PLAY THE VIDEO.
9:35:38AM >> SO WHEN WE MET AND SPOKE, JUST A LITTLE ME.
9:35:46AM SHE WAS SIX.
9:35:48AM SHE IS NOW 17.
9:35:50AM I ENJOYED MYSELF SO MUCH THAT I WANTED TO SEE HER MORE
9:35:53AM OFTEN.
9:35:54AM >> SHE WAS THERE FOR THE LONG RUN --
9:35:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE TURN THE VOLUME UP?
9:36:01AM >> I'M FULLY GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
9:36:04AM >> GONE SEVEN WEEKS.
9:36:05AM MISSED HIM.
9:36:06AM TOLD HIM ON THE WAY HERE, I WAS AFRAID YOU WOULD FORGET ME.
9:36:09AM WHAT DID YOU SAY?
9:36:10AM YOU WOULDN'T FORGET ME.
9:36:12AM >> WOULDN'T.
9:36:13AM >> SO IT'S VERY REWARDING AND IT'S PART OF MY WEEKENDS.
9:36:19AM >> YOU MAKE THE TIME FOR THE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT AND
9:36:23AM CHASE IS IMPORTANT.
9:36:24AM >> HE'S MATURE AND REALLY JUST GOTTEN OUT OF HIS SHELL WITH
9:36:28AM COMFORT LEVEL AND TALKING TO PEOPLE.
9:36:32AM >> I KIND OF THOUGHT LIKE SHE WAS A LONGTIME BABYSITTER.
9:36:36AM OF BUT --
9:36:40AM >> I SAW SOMETHING THE OTHER DAY THAT SAID CHILDREN DON'T
9:36:43AM NEED TO LEARN HOW TO BE HAPPY BECAUSE THEY ARE.
9:36:48AM EVEN THE SMALLEST THINGS, THERE'S SO MUCH BEAUTY, HAPPINESS
9:36:51AM AND LAUGHTER IN LIFE.
9:36:53AM I FEEL I HAVE PERSONALLY GAINED MORE THAN I COULD HAVE EVER
9:36:57AM IMAGINED JUST HAVING HER.
9:36:59AM >> THIS IS COOL.
9:37:00AM BEST FRIENDS FOREVER.
9:37:01AM >> YEAH, BEST FRIENDS FOREVER.
9:37:04AM >> WHEN WE MET THEM, IT WAS LIKE THE MISSING PIECE OF THE
9:37:11AM PUZZLE.
9:37:12AM IT WORKS.
9:37:13AM IT REALLY WORKS.
9:37:17AM >> TALKING TO HER IS LIKE HAVING A SISTER, LIKE THE BIG
9:37:20AM SISTER I NEVER IMAGINED I WOULD HAVE.
9:37:24AM >> JUST SHOWING UP HAS MADE A BIG IMPROVEMENT IN THEIR LIFE.
9:37:30AM >> HE HAD HELPED ME.
9:37:33AM >> HIS CONFIDENCE HAS GROWN IN THE SEVEN YEARS.
9:37:38AM >> HIS SELF-ESTEEM HAS IMPROVED SO MUCH.
9:37:41AM HE HAS SO MUCH DISCIPLINE AND ALL THAT.
9:37:45AM >> LOOK AT THIS MAN.
9:37:46AM I AM ACTUALLY HELPING, SHAPE A MAN, BE A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER
9:37:55AM OF SOCIETY, BEING GOOD TO HER, THE FAMILY.
9:37:59AM >> BIG BROTHERS, BIG SISTERS IS DOING THINGS.
9:38:02AM >> LET'S ALL PULL TOGETHER AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THESE
9:38:07AM KIDS' LIVES.
9:38:08AM LET'S DO THIS.
9:38:10AM >> IT'S TREMENDOUS THAT YOU DO WHAT YOU DO.
9:38:13AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR GENEROUS DONATIONS.
9:38:15AM THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT SPONSORSHIPS
9:38:19AM THAT ALLOW US TO CONNECT.
9:38:25AM >> GRATEFUL FOR EVERYTHING.
9:38:26AM >> THANK YOU.
9:38:27AM >> THANK YOU.
9:38:28AM >> THANK YOU.
9:38:29AM >> GRACIAS.
9:38:31AM >> THANK YOU.
9:38:31AM >> THANK YOU.
9:38:32AM >> THANK YOU.
9:38:33AM >> THANK YOU!
9:38:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:38:45AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:38:45AM WE'LL GO TO NUMBER 2.
9:39:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:39:04AM WE HAVE WANTED FOR A WHILE TO HONOR OUR GOOD FRIENDS AT CAMP
9:39:09AM HOPETAKE.
9:39:10AM BEFORE I BEGIN, COME ON UP.
9:39:14AM SO WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL GUEST WHO IS COMING WITH US, A DOG
9:39:17AM BY THE NAME OF DENALI.
9:39:20AM SOME OF YOU ALL HAVE MET.
9:39:21AM BUT BEFORE SHE COMES IN, I WOULD ASK WHILE SHE'S IN THE ROOM
9:39:26AM NO CLAPPING, BECAUSE CLAPPING TRIGGERS ISSUES WITH WONDERFUL
9:39:30AM DENALI.
9:39:31AM HERE IS DENALI.
9:39:33AM I WANT TO CLAP FOR THIS DOG, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO.
9:39:37AM A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL DOG.
9:39:40AM WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT BURN VICTIMS AND THE WONDERFUL WORK
9:39:44AM THAT SOME INDIVIDUALS AND INSTITUTIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY DO.
9:39:47AM WE HAVE HERE MR. ALEX CANASI WITH THE TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS
9:39:52AM CHARITY FUND AND CAMP HOPETAKE CAMP DIRECTOR.
9:39:56AM WE HAVE HERE HIS VERY PROUD DAD WHO IS FILMING, MR. SIMON
9:40:00AM CANASI, NOT JUST AS A PROUD DAD BUT WITH THE TAMPA
9:40:05AM FIREFIGHTERS CHARITY FUND.
9:40:06AM ASHLEY ROE WITH TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL, AND MR. MATTHEW
9:40:10AM COHEN, ONE OF MY FAVORITE PEOPLE ON EARTH.
9:40:13AM HIS DAD IS A WONDERFUL MAN, ALSO SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TODAY
9:40:17AM BUT MATT IS SICK AND COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
9:40:20AM WE ALSO HAVE HERE DENALI.
9:40:24AM I'LL TALK ABOUT DENALI IN A LITTLE BIT, THE BEAUTIFUL DOG
9:40:27AM AND WONDERFUL HANDLER, CARRIE BRECK WHO IS HERE.
9:40:31AM THANK YOU FOR COMING.
9:40:31AM WE'RE HERE FOR A DUAL COMMENDATION FOR THE WONDERFUL WORK
9:40:34AM THAT THESE TWO INSTITUTIONS DO HERE IN TAMPA FOR BURN
9:40:37AM VICTIMS.
9:40:38AM WE HAVE HERE CAMP HOPETAKE, WHICH IS A WEEKLONG SLEEP-AWAY
9:40:42AM CAMP FOR KIDS AGE 8 TO 17.
9:40:44AM THE LONG STORY SHORT ON THIS CAMP IS, IT ALLOWS KIDS WHO ARE
9:40:48AM PEDIATRIC BURN SURVIVORS TO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENT 100% FREE OF
9:40:53AM CHARGE WHERE THEY CAN BE WHO THEY ARE, BE AROUND SOME
9:40:58AM MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS, BE AROUND SOME FIREFIGHTERS AND SOME
9:41:01AM OTHER PROFESSIONALS WHERE THEY CAN TALK ABOUT BEING KIDS AND
9:41:05AM SUFFERING THROUGH THE THINGS THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH AND
9:41:07AM SUFFERING THROUGH SOME OF THE EMOTIONAL CHALLENGES THAT
9:41:10AM HAPPEN IN LIFE.
9:41:11AM THIS WONDERFUL CAMP PROVIDES A SAFE ENVIRONMENT.
9:41:14AM AGAIN, 100% FREE.
9:41:16AM THERE WAS A QUOTE FROM A YOUNGSTER WHO WENT THROUGH CAMP
9:41:19AM HOPETAKE WHERE THEY SAID, QUOTE, THEY LOOK AT MY SKIN AND
9:41:22AM SAY I LOOK DISGUSTING, MY SKIN LOOKS HORRIBLE AND STUFF LIKE
9:41:26AM THAT.
9:41:27AM I WASN'T USED TO GETTING OUT OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE I WAS MADE
9:41:30AM FUN OF.
9:41:32AM CAMP HOPETAKE GAVE ME A HOME.
9:41:34AM THAT'S WHAT CAMP HOPETAKE IS ALL ABOUT.
9:41:37AM ALEX IS ONE INDIVIDUAL, ALONG WITH MS. ROE AND OTHERS WHO
9:41:41AM HELPED LEAD THE EFFORT.
9:41:42AM I FIRST LEARNED ABOUT CAMP HOPETAKE MAYBE ABOUT 13, 14 YEARS
9:41:46AM AGO THROUGH JACE KOHAN, WHO USED TO BE THE PERSONNEL CHIEF
9:41:49AM HERE FOR TAMPA FIRE AND WAS THE TREASURER FOR LOCAL 754
9:41:52AM BEFORE THAT.
9:41:53AM JACE KOHAN DID A LOT OF WORK WITH CAMP HOPETAKE.
9:41:58AM HIS SON MATT HAS DONE A LOT OF WORK.
9:41:59AM AND THEN JEREMY FINNEY, WHO TODAY, BY THE WAY, IS AT A 754
9:42:03AM BOARD MEETING.
9:42:04AM SO NONE OF THE UNION COULD BE HERE TODAY.
9:42:06AM JEREMY FINNEY HAS ALSO DONE A GREAT DEAL OF WORK.
9:42:09AM WE'RE HERE TODAY TO HONOR THE WORK OF CAMP HOPETAKE AND THE
9:42:12AM TEAM THAT DOES EVERYTHING THERE.
9:42:14AM ALSO HERE TO HONOR THE EXPERIENCE OF DENALI AND TO TALK
9:42:16AM ABOUT HOW SOMETIMES THESE ARE FURRY FRIENDS, OUR DOGS, CAN
9:42:23AM PROVIDE COMFORT TO PEOPLE IN THE SADDEST MOMENTS OF THEIR
9:42:26AM LIFE.
9:42:26AM AUGUST OF 2013, DENALI NEARLY DIED WHEN HER OWNER DOUSED
9:42:31AM DENALI, HER HUSBAND'S FAVORITE DOG, IN GAS AND LEFT DENALI
9:42:36AM THERE TO DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH BECAUSE OF A DOMESTIC DISPUTE.
9:42:41AM POLICE SAID THAT SHE, THE INDIVIDUAL LEFT SIX DOGS OUT OF
9:42:44AM THE HOUSE BUT TRAPPED DENALI IN THE KENNEL AND SET THE HOUSE
9:42:48AM ON FIRE.
9:42:48AM AND THIS INDIVIDUAL WOULD SERVE 8 YEARS IN PRISON FOR THIS
9:42:52AM TERRIBLE ACT.
9:42:52AM NOW DENALI WORKS AS A DOG COMFORTING BURN VICTIMS AND PEOPLE
9:42:57AM WHO HAVE -- WHO ARE SURVIVORS OF ABUSE.
9:43:01AM WE'RE HERE TO HONOR DENALI.
9:43:03AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM, AS I SAID BEFORE, WE GIVING COUNCIL
9:43:06AM COMMENDATIONS TO ANIMALS.
9:43:08AM WE DID IT TO SHADOW, A DOG THAT SAVED MARINE LIVES OVERSEAS
9:43:12AM IN AFGHANISTAN AND NOW WE DO IT TO DENALI.
9:43:15AM FOR THAT, LET ME, IF I MAY -- AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE
9:43:19AM ANY CLAPPING.
9:43:20AM ALEX, IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK SIR, YOU MAY.
9:43:23AM >> THANK YOU.
9:43:23AM FIRST, I'LL ADDRESS DENALI SO THEY CAN DO THEIR COMMENDATION
9:43:29AM AND LEAVE WITHOUT CLAPPING.
9:43:33AM I MET DENALI MANY YEARS AGO.
9:43:36AM WE THREW A FUND-RAISER FOR HER AND DOGS IN HER SIMILAR
9:43:40AM CONDITION.
9:43:40AM WE WERE REALLY HONORED TO DO THAT AND THEN TO HAVE DENALI
9:43:44AM COME BACK HEALED TO VISIT THE KIDS AT CAMP HOPETAKE HAS BEEN
9:43:51AM ESSENTIAL.
9:43:51AM THE KIDS LOVE DENALI.
9:43:54AM YOU CAN VISIT HER ON INSTAGRAM.
9:43:58AM I'LL LET CARRIE TOUCH ON THAT IF YOU WANT TO REAL QUICK.
9:44:02AM >> AS EVERYONE HAS SAID, SHE TOUCHES MANY LIVES AND SHE
9:44:08AM ACTUALLY CHANGED MY LIFE BECAUSE I HAD NOT THOUGHT ABOUT
9:44:12AM DOING ANY KIND OF THERAPY WORK BEFORE DENALI CAME INTO MY
9:44:16AM LIFE.
9:44:16AM THE EXPERIENCES THAT I'VE HAD WITH HER IN WATCHING HOW SHE
9:44:21AM COMFORTS PEDIATRIC BURN SURVIVORS AND DOMESTIC ABUSE
9:44:24AM SURVIVORS HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
9:44:27AM I'M SO HONORED TO BE HERE AND I'M SO PROUD OF HER.
9:44:31AM I KNEW I WAS GOING TO CRY.
9:44:32AM FROM EVERYTHING THAT SHE'S OVERCOME AND SHE HASN'T LOST THAT
9:44:36AM SPARK.
9:44:37AM SHE'S SO RESILIENT AND THAT'S WHY PEOPLE LOVE HER AND THE
9:44:40AM KIDS LOVE HER BECAUSE THEY SEE A KINDRED SPIRIT IN HER AS
9:44:45AM WELL.
9:44:45AM SHE HAS BECOME INSTAFAMOUS.
9:44:50AM HER INSTAGRAM IS PRETTY WILD BECAUSE PEOPLE FOLLOW HER AND
9:44:54AM THEY LOVE THE FEEL-GOOD CONTENT AND TO WATCH HER VISITS AND
9:44:57AM HER BROTHER HUGO'S VISITS AS WELL.
9:45:00AM I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR HONORING HER AND THE AMAZING
9:45:02AM WORK SHE DOES.
9:45:04AM SHE HAS HER OWN TRADING CARDS WHICH WE GIVE OUT TO KIDS.
9:45:07AM HAS HER STORY ON THE BACK.
9:45:09AM KIDS LOVE THAT, THEY COLLECT IT AND WE HAVE STICKERS.
9:45:12AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:45:17AM >> I GUESS I WANT TO SAY I'M BLESSED THROUGH MY JOB AS A
9:45:22AM NURSE AND TO WORK FOR THE ORGANIZATION I WORK FOR, TO WORK
9:45:25AM FOR THE UNIT I WORK FOR IN THE BURN CENTER AND TO BE ABLE TO
9:45:28AM TREAT PEOPLE ON THEIR WORST DAY, IN THEIR WORST MOMENT AND
9:45:32AM TRY TO GET THEM TO A BETTER PLACE AND TRANSITIONING INTO THE
9:45:37AM JOB I DO NOW BURN PROGRAM COORDINATOR, I'VE BEEN BLESSED TO
9:45:40AM WORK WITH ALEX AND MATT WHO I COULDN'T ASK FOR A BETTER TEAM
9:45:43AM IN DOING CAMP HOPETAKE AND TO MEET THESE KIDS AND TO
9:45:47AM GENUINELY FEEL TOUCHED BY THEIR STORY AND THEIR POSITION TO
9:45:51AM BE A BETTER ADULT AND TO SEE THAT KIDS DON'T LET SOMETHING
9:45:55AM SO TRAUMATIC HOLD THEM DOWN.
9:45:59AM THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION, BUT I REALLY COULDN'T DO IT
9:46:03AM WITHOUT ALEX AND MATT AND OBVIOUSLY MY JOB AND BOSS AND MY
9:46:07AM COWORKERS AS WELL.
9:46:09AM THANK YOU.
9:46:11AM >> JUST GETTING BACK TO CAMP AS A WHOLE, MY PARENTS TAUGHT
9:46:15AM ME NEVER TO COME TO SOMEONE'S HOUSE EMPTY-HANDED.
9:46:18AM WE BROUGHT SOME SWAG FROM CAMP.
9:46:20AM MONOGRAMMED TOWELS AND BACKPACKS FOR COUNCIL.
9:46:24AM AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR THE
9:46:27AM RECOGNITION.
9:46:27AM I NEED TO THANK TAMPA FIRE'S ADMINISTRATION FOR SUPPORTING
9:46:30AM US THROUGHOUT OUR 33 YEARS OF CAMP HOPETAKE.
9:46:33AM I ALSO NEED TO THANK TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL -- EXCUSE ME,
9:46:37AM TAMPA GENERAL HOSPITAL'S FOUNDATION FOR THEIR SUPPORT AS
9:46:39AM WELL.
9:46:40AM THEY ARE OUR 50-50 PARTNER ON THIS, AND THEY HAVE BEEN
9:46:44AM ESSENTIAL THROUGHOUT THIS JOURNEY.
9:46:46AM ALSO, OF COURSE, I NEED TO THANK OUR SPONSORS WHO HAVE BEEN
9:46:51AM INSTRUMENTAL IN MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THIS SERVICE
9:46:53AM AND THIS CAMP FOR THE KIDS AT NO COST TO THEM.
9:46:56AM ALL WE TELL THEM, IF YOU CAN GET THE KIDS THERE, WE'LL TAKE
9:46:59AM CARE OF THE REST.
9:47:00AM AND THE KIDS THEMSELVES ARE TEACHING US MORE THAN WE COULD
9:47:04AM EVER TEACH THEM.
9:47:06AM FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO DEDICATE THIS AWARD TO THE PEOPLE WHO
9:47:10AM REALLY DESERVE IT AND THAT'S THE PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEER AS
9:47:12AM CAMP COUNSELORS EVERY YEAR.
9:47:14AM THEY SPEND UP TO A WEEK AWAY FROM THEIR OWN FAMILIES AND
9:47:16AM CHILDREN SO THEY CAN SPEND TIME WITH THESE KIDS WHO REALLY,
9:47:19AM REALLY BENEFIT.
9:47:22AM I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MANY MORE YEARS AS DIRECTOR, AND I'VE
9:47:26AM ENJOYED THE RIDE THUS FAR.
9:47:28AM I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH FOR THIS RECOGNITION TODAY.
9:47:30AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:47:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
9:47:32AM NO CLAPPING.
9:47:33AM NO CLAPPING.
9:47:34AM ALL RIGHT.
9:47:35AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:47:36AM ANY COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL?
9:47:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MANY YEARS AGO, RETIRED FIREFIGHTER NOW,
9:47:44AM FRANK AND AL SUAREZ WERE THE ONES THAT INTRODUCED ME TO CAMP
9:47:49AM HOPETAKE.
9:47:49AM IT'S HARD TO PRONOUNCE THAT WORD.
9:47:52AM IT MEANS HOPE FOR EVERYONE I GUESS BECAUSE EVERYONE I KNOW
9:47:55AM THAT'S GONE THERE AND THEY EVEN TOOK ME TO THE TOUR AND
9:47:58AM SHOWED ME THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEEDED HELP THERE, IN AND
9:48:00AM OUT OF THE HOSPITAL.
9:48:01AM IT'S AN AMAZING THING WHAT YOU ALL DO TO REHAB SOME PERSON.
9:48:06AM FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE TO REHAB THE MIND BECAUSE IF YOU
9:48:08AM DON'T REHAB THE MIND, THE BODY IS NEVER GOING TO HAVE THE
9:48:11AM ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING.
9:48:15AM THE WORK THAT ALL OF YOU DO, THE LEADER, THE GROUP, EVERY
9:48:19AM FIREFIGHTER AND EVERYONE ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR GROUP IS A
9:48:22AM MARVELOUS THING TO GIVE SOMEBODY AGAIN SOME VISION OF HOPE
9:48:26AM THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE LIFE THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE.
9:48:30AM IN SOME OF THESE CASES, WHEN YOU SEE THEM BEFORE AND AFTER,
9:48:34AM YOU THINK YOU ARE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND IT'S
9:48:36AM REALLY ONE THAT IS REALLY CHANGED AND THE INVIGORATION OF
9:48:40AM LIFE AND ENERGY HAS COME BACK TO THEM BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU DO
9:48:44AM ON A DAILY BASIS.
9:48:45AM I WANT TO THANK YOU PERSONALLY AND YOUR GROUP FOR DOING WHAT
9:48:48AM YOU DO AND ALL THE ONES YOU FOLLOW.
9:48:49AM FRANK, AL, THE REST OF THEM.
9:48:52AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
9:48:55AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION.
9:48:57AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
9:48:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MA'AM.
9:49:01AM WELL, CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS VERY WELL-DESERVED
9:49:04AM RECOGNITION.
9:49:05AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA SAID IT BEST.
9:49:07AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND HOW YOU TOUCH
9:49:10AM AND CHANGE PEOPLE'S LIVES AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT, NOT JUST
9:49:14AM THE SPONSORS, LIKE YOU SAID, THOSE THAT TAKE A WEEK AWAY
9:49:16AM FROM THEIR FAMILY AND CHILDREN TO DEDICATE THEMSELVES TO
9:49:19AM HELPING OTHERS, LIFTING THEIR SPIRITS, IMPROVING THEIR
9:49:23AM LIVES.
9:49:24AM WHATEVER IT IS, IT'S NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS.
9:49:26AM WE SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND, OF COURSE,
9:49:30AM DENALI, A VERY SAD BUT INSPIRATIONAL STORY BECAUSE DENALI
9:49:35AM NOW TOUCHES MORE LIVES IN A POSITIVE WAY.
9:49:40AM SO WE APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
9:49:42AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:49:43AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:49:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAD TO FIGHT BACK MY TEARS.
9:49:49AM I WAS UP HERE CRYING, TOO.
9:49:50AM I HAD A ROUGH START IN MY LIFE AS WELL BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT
9:49:56AM WHERE YOU CAME FROM.
9:49:57AM IT'S ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING TODAY.
9:50:01AM ABOUT DENALI AND WHAT YOU ALL ARE CONTRIBUTING TO KIDS AND
9:50:05AM THE COMMUNITY, TOUCHING FOLKS' LIVES, IT'S A VERY MOVING
9:50:09AM STORY AND TO HAVE THE ASSISTANCE OF ANIMALS.
9:50:13AM ANYBODY THAT KNOWS ME OR FOLLOWS ME ON SOCIAL MEDIA KNOWS
9:50:15AM I'M A HUGE ANIMAL PERSON.
9:50:17AM I STOPPED EATING MEAT 40 YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF IT.
9:50:21AM WHAT A TREMENDOUS AND AMAZING STORY.
9:50:24AM IT TOOK EVERY BIT OF SELF-CONTROL I HAD WHEN COUNCILMAN
9:50:28AM VIERA WAS SPEAKING FOR ME NOT TO RUN DOWN AND SIT AND PLAY
9:50:33AM WITH DENALI BECAUSE WE BONDED A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THE
9:50:35AM MEETING TODAY.
9:50:35AM TOOK EVERY BIT OF SELF-CONTROL.
9:50:38AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THE STORY TODAY.
9:50:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
9:50:40AM YES, MA'AM.
9:50:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I FEEL VERY SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
9:50:46AM OBVIOUSLY, AS A BIG DOG LOVER AND A FORMER ELEMENTARY
9:50:49AM SCHOOLTEACHER, JUST THE WAY THAT ANIMALS CAN OFTEN REACH A
9:50:58AM CHILD THAT ADULTS JUST CAN'T.
9:51:01AM AS A GREAT ICEBREAKER, WE USED TO HAVE DOGS COME AND READ
9:51:07AM WITH THE KIDS.
9:51:08AM THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THAT NONVERBAL COMMUNICATION.
9:51:15AM AND THEN HER UNDERSTANDING OF THE KIDS AND THEIR SITUATION
9:51:20AM THAT JUST REALLY IS HEARTWARMING AND TOUCHING AND CREATIVE.
9:51:24AM SO I JUST THINK IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL.
9:51:26AM OBVIOUSLY, ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND ALL THE WORK YOU'LL
9:51:29AM CONTINUE TO DO FOR THESE CHILDREN, BUT IN CONTINUING TO LOOK
9:51:34AM OUTSIDE OF A NORMAL THERAPY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REACH THE
9:51:41AM KIDS AND TO REALLY JUST HELP THEM COME TO TERMS WITH WHAT
9:51:46AM HAPPENED TO THEM AND HOW THEY CAN JUST MOVE ON WITH THEIR
9:51:49AM LIVES AND KNOW THAT THEY ARE JUST NORMAL PEOPLE.
9:51:54AM I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
9:51:55AM AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DO AND ALL YOU SEE
9:51:59AM AND DO EVERY DAY.
9:52:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:52:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO ADD ON AND AMPLIFY EVERYTHING
9:52:07AM EVERYONE ELSE SAID.
9:52:08AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, FOR YOUR
9:52:11AM LEADERSHIP AND WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING, IMPORTANT WORK, SO WE
9:52:15AM ALL APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING GOING FORWARD.
9:52:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:52:19AM AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:52:20AM NO CLAPPING.
9:52:22AM NO CLAPPING.
9:52:22AM AT THIS TIME WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:52:39AM WE HAVE ONE REGISTERED SPEAKER, MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:52:42AM IF YOU ARE ONLINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
9:52:44AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE FOLKS IN THE
9:52:47AM AUDIENCE.
9:52:48AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:52:48AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:52:50AM I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
9:52:53AM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE INCREASE DOLLARS RELATED TO
9:52:57AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:52:58AM BY WAY OF A NEW LAW PASSED BY IRS.
9:53:08AM REQUIRES THE FOUNDATIONS -- 5% OF THEIR GROSS INCOME -- DONE
9:53:16AM IN TWO WAYS.
9:53:17AM THE FIRST GRANTS.
9:53:19AM WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THAT.
9:53:20AM 150,000 FUNDERS ACCORDING TO FOUNDATION -- THE NEXT WAY IS
9:53:28AM CALLED PROGRAM RELATED INVESTMENT MODES.
9:53:30AM LOANS.
9:53:33AM THESE LOANS ARE FROM ZERO TO THREE PERCENT.
9:53:36AM THESE LOANS ARE THE SAME INTEREST RATES AS YOUR TOP 100
9:53:40AM FOUNDATIONS.
9:53:41AM UP TO $500,000.
9:53:44AM THAT MEANS IF WE PUT $500,000 WITH THE CITY FOR AFFORDABLE
9:53:49AM HOUSING BECAUSE IT'S A LOAN, WE GET THAT $500,000 BACK
9:53:54AM THROUGH THE CDC.
9:53:55AM WE CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOUTH
9:53:58AM PROGRAMS, ET CETERA.
9:54:00AM THIS BECOMES A GOOD WAY TO BRING IN AND ADD TO THE DOLLARS
9:54:04AM THAT WE THAT'S NEEDED IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:54:06AM THESE ARE UNLIMITED DOLLARS THAT WE CAN TAP INTO BY WAY OF
9:54:12AM THIS PROGRAM RELATED INVESTMENT.
9:54:14AM I'M VERY HAPPY TO BRING THIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE NOW
9:54:18AM WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEW WAY TO BRING IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
9:54:23AM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:54:24AM AT THE SAME TIME, CDC -- WITH THE MONEY THEY CAN BRING BACK
9:54:31AM TO THE CITY TO IMPROVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:54:34AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:54:34AM DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE BUDGET.
9:54:38AM IF HOME.
9:54:38AM TAKE A DAY OFF.
9:54:40AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:54:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:54:42AM WE'LL GO TO IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:54:44AM YES, MA'AM.
9:54:44AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:54:46AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:54:47AM MS. SANCHEZ.
9:54:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:54:52AM MY NAME IS SANDRA DEDIEGO SANCHEZ.
9:54:57AM 2705 FIG STREET.
9:54:59AM I'M HERE AS A COMMUNITY ACTIVIST TODAY.
9:55:00AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 67.
9:55:05AM I AM AWARE THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED A LETTER THAT SAYS THAT YOU
9:55:08AM ARE NOT TO HAVE COMMUNICATION, BUT I THINK IT'S OKAY IN
9:55:15AM PUBLIC COMMENT FOR US TO COME FORWARD IF WE HAVE SOMETHING
9:55:18AM TO SAY.
9:55:19AM THERE ARE NOT MANY REPRESENTATIVES HERE FROM THAT
9:55:21AM NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THIS MEETING IS FOR
9:55:23AM INFORMATION ONLY.
9:55:24AM SO THEY BASICALLY WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE INFORMATION IS.
9:55:29AM BASICALLY, WITHOUT GOING INTO DETAILS, THE CITY MADE A
9:55:33AM DECISION, A DEVELOPER STARTED BUILDING.
9:55:35AM THEY FOUND OUT SOMETHING WAS VERY WRONG WITH IT AND THE
9:55:39AM CITY'S SOLUTION WAS FOR THE DEVELOPER TO APPLY FOR A DESIGN
9:55:42AM EXCEPTION ONE.
9:55:44AM THE DESIGN EXCEPTION ONE I MIGHT REMIND YOU IS DONE BY ONE
9:55:48AM PERSON BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
9:55:52AM THERE'S -- NORMALLY THERE'S NO NOTIFICATION TO THE
9:55:54AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:55:55AM THE ONLY REASON THE NEIGHBORHOOD GOT NOTIFICATION OF THE
9:55:58AM DESIGN EXCEPTION ONE IS BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH -- SO MANY
9:56:03AM COMPLAINTS ABOUT TRYING TO GET SOME INFORMATION.
9:56:08AM THIS IS A PROVERBIAL DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD.
9:56:13AM THEY ARE DAMNED IF THEY DO AND DAMNED IF THEY DON'T.
9:56:15AM IF THEY APPROVE THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, THE DEVELOPER
9:56:20AM CONTINUES WITH THEIR PROJECT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOSES.
9:56:25AM IT WOULD BE A SAFETY HAZARD, A DEVELOPMENTAL HAZARD FOR THE
9:56:29AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:56:29AM IT WOULD ALSO SET A PRECEDENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR FUTURE
9:56:32AM DEVELOPMENT, NOT TO MENTION EVEN THOUGH NEW, UNSIGHTLY.
9:56:36AM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS THAT I'D LIKE TO
9:56:39AM OFFER, NOT THAT -- I'M HOPING SOMEBODY WHO MAKES DECISION
9:56:43AM WILL LISTEN.
9:56:44AM THE FIRST ONE IS TO MAKE THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION 2, WHICH WILL
9:56:50AM BRING IT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND ALLOW THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO
9:56:53AM COME IN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:56:54AM THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, IF THEY GET THE DESIGN EXCEPTION
9:56:59AM EVEN AT 2, THE NEIGHBORHOOD STILL LOSES.
9:57:02AM THE HOUSE IS STILL BEING BUILT.
9:57:05AM IT'S STILL SOMETHING THAT THEY DON'T WANT IN THE
9:57:07AM NEIGHBORHOOD ONLY BECAUSE IT DOES NOT SET THE CODE BY THE
9:57:10AM CITY.
9:57:10AM THE SECOND SOLUTION, AND I'M SURE NOT ONLY THE DEVELOPMENT
9:57:14AM DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO CITY COUNCIL WILL CRINGE ON THIS, BUT
9:57:17AM THEY SHOULD WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER, CORRECT WHAT NEEDS TO
9:57:22AM BE CORRECTED.
9:57:25AM HAVE THE DEVELOPER TEAR DOWN WHAT HE'S DONE BUT REIMBURSE
9:57:31AM HIM FOR WHAT HE TAKES DOWN.
9:57:33AM THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BECOME WHOLE
9:57:38AM AGAIN.
9:57:38AM IF YOU JUST ALLOW THE DESIGN EXCEPTION TO GO THROUGH -- AND
9:57:43AM THAT'S STILL A DECISION THAT'S UP IN THE AIR -- IT WILL NOT
9:57:47AM SOLVE ANYTHING.
9:57:47AM I HOPE YOU WILL THINK ABOUT THIS AND THINK ABOUT A WAY THAT
9:57:50AM YOU CAN HELP THIS COMMUNITY THAT IS TRYING TO RETAIN THEIR
9:57:52AM QUALITY OF LIFE.
9:57:53AM THANK YOU.
9:57:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:57:54AM YES, SIR.
9:57:55AM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:58:00AM >> MARCUS LIENHARD, 410 WEST PARIS STREET.
9:58:04AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT SOME GAPS IN PROCESS THAT CAN
9:58:08AM UNDULY BURDEN CITIZENS.
9:58:10AM I ASK FOR YOUR HELP RECTIFYING THIS AS I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE
9:58:14AM MONEY ALLOCATED TO REVAMP THE CODE AND TO DOUBLE DOWN ON
9:58:19AM WHAT WE'RE DOING TO SEE IF IT IS SERVING OUR CITIZENS IN THE
9:58:22AM RIGHT WAY.
9:58:22AM THE FIRST TIME THE PUBLIC TYPICALLY SEES A DEVELOPMENT IS
9:58:25AM WHEN IT'S IN ACTION.
9:58:26AM LONG AFTER APPROVALS OF PLANS, DESIGN EXCEPTIONS, WHATEVER
9:58:29AM IT MAY BE, BECAUSE THE OUTCOME HAS ALREADY BEEN CEMENTED
9:58:33AM WITHOUT THEIR INPUT OR KNOWLEDGE, THERE ARE LIMITED COURSES
9:58:36AM OF ACTION OR THE ABILITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
9:58:38AM IN SITUATIONS WHERE APPROVALS AND PERMITS, DESIGN EXCEPTIONS
9:58:41AM ARE ALLOWED DUE TO MISTAKES OR GAPS IN THAT PROCESS, THEN
9:58:47AM CITIZENS ARE UNDULY PUNISHED BY THE COURSE OF ACTIONS AND
9:58:50AM THE EVENTS THEY HAVE HEARD.
9:58:52AM NOT ONLY IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BUT THEY
9:58:56AM BURDEN THE RESULT.
9:58:57AM UNFORTUNATELY, SINCE WE'RE DEALING WITH A PERMANENT
9:58:59AM STRUCTURE, WHO IS THE IMPACT.
9:59:01AM THE IMPACT IS PERMANENT NOT ONLY TO OUR CITIZENS BUT ALSO TO
9:59:04AM THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:59:06AM IF MISTAKES ARE ALLOWED TO STAND, THEN THOSE MISTAKES
9:59:09AM ESTABLISH A PRECEDENT FOR ALL FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
9:59:11AM IF THOSE MISTAKES CAN THEN BE LEVERAGED AT ANY TIME IN THE
9:59:15AM FUTURE, AS IT DOES NOT EXPIRE.
9:59:17AM THIS KEEPS THE OPPORTUNITY QUITE OPEN FOR GREATER IMPACT TO
9:59:21AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE THERE.
9:59:23AM IN THE END, THE CITY AND THE DEVELOPERS MOVE ON BUT THE
9:59:27AM IMPACT DOES NOT.
9:59:28AM IT STAYS THERE FOREVER NOT ONLY IN THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE
9:59:30AM BUT IN THE EVENTS AND DECISIONS THAT INFLUENCE THAT
9:59:33AM DECISION, POST THE DECISION.
9:59:36AM CITIZENS SHOULD NOT BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY CITY ERRORS OR
9:59:39AM ACTIONS TO DEVELOPERS.
9:59:40AM THIS IS AN UNDUE BURDEN ON A PROCESS THAT IS OUTSIDE THEIR
9:59:43AM CONTROL AND MOST LIKELY FORMS MOST CITIZENS.
9:59:48AM THEREFORE, THE NEEDS NEED TO CHANGE ON HOW EVENTS LIKE THIS
9:59:49AM ARE HANDLED.
9:59:51AM ONCE IDENTIFIED, THEY SHOULD BE DISCUSSED WITH TRANSPARENCY,
9:59:54AM AND DEFINITIVE ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN TO CORRECT THEM.
9:59:58AM WITHOUT MEANINGFUL RECOGNITION OF WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED AND
10:00:02AM THE CORRELATION AND THE CORRECTION OF ERRORS, IT FURTHER
10:00:04AM JEOPARDIZES THE PUBLIC'S CONFIDENCE IN THE PROCESS AND THOSE
10:00:07AM THAT GOVERN IT.
10:00:08AM A PROCESS WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY IS A PROCESS THAT'S NOT
10:00:10AM EFFECTIVE AND DOES NOT HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL TO IMPROVE.
10:00:13AM WITHOUT THE ACCOUNTABILITY, THOSE DOWNSTREAM FROM THE
10:00:18AM DECISION MAKERS ENDURE FAULTS, NOT THOSE MAKING THE
10:00:21AM DECISION.
10:00:22AM IN THE END, ACCOUNTABILITY AND CORRECTIONS HAVE A COST.
10:00:25AM HOWEVER, THE COST THE CITY -- THOSE WILL COST THE CITY LESS
10:00:29AM TO ACT, RESOLVE AND IMPROVE THAN IT WILL BE TO PERPETUATE
10:00:33AM THE ISSUES.
10:00:34AM THEREFORE, I ASK THE COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT THIS AS THEY
10:00:37AM REWRITE THE CODE AND THINK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY
10:00:40AM GOING ON IN THEIR CITY TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S TRANSPARENCY
10:00:44AM AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN OUR PROCESSES.
10:00:46AM AND ENSURE THAT THOSE THAT TYPICALLY DO NOT HAVE A VOICE
10:00:49AM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THE PROCESSES DO MOVING
10:00:51AM FORWARD.
10:00:52AM THANK YOU.
10:00:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:00:53AM YES, MA'AM.
10:00:55AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:01:01AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:01:03AM HAPPY THURSDAY.
10:01:05AM I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU ALL THIS LITTLE WORD.
10:01:11AM GOD LIKE IN YOUR LIFE.
10:01:14AM GOOD OR EVIL PLOTS, JAMES 12:21.
10:01:18AM GOD IS MY EVERYTHING AND MY SOUL IS ANCHORING GOD.
10:01:24AM THANK MAYOR JANE CASTOR FOR HER PLAN FOR DIVERSITY AND
10:01:29AM WORKING TOGETHER.
10:01:31AM CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING SPIRITUALITY IN THE CHAMBERS OF
10:01:37AM THE TAMPA CITY HALL AND THE TREES FROM THE CITY.
10:01:42AM ALSO MS. CT, NAVIGATOR, CAME AND WE HAD A GREAT MEETING
10:01:54AM YESTERDAY.
10:01:54AM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TO FUND ECONOMIC
10:01:58AM DEVELOPMENT FOR SMALL BUSINESS SO THAT WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE
10:02:02AM TO PARTICIPATE ALONG WITH EVERYONE ELSE IN THE HOUSING AND
10:02:10AM NEIGHBORHOOD PROGRAMMING.
10:02:11AM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL FOR ALLOWING THE
10:02:16AM SPIRITUALITY TO COME INTO THE ROOM.
10:02:18AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:02:19AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:02:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:02:21AM YES, SIR.
10:02:23AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS, LOCATED AT 1112 EAST
10:02:38AM SCOTT STREET, PARADISE MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH.
10:02:41AM I THINK YOU ALL THINK THAT I COME DOWN HERE TO COMPLAIN.
10:02:47AM BUT MY GRIEVANCE NOW, I'VE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE A LONG
10:02:53AM TIME.
10:02:53AM WHEN I FIRST STARTED COMING DOWN HERE, WASN'T NO BLACK OR
10:02:57AM WHITE.
10:03:00AM I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE CONSERVATIVE AND HELP ME OUT.
10:03:08AM I GOT A FORECLOSURE NOTICE AT MY RESIDENCE.
10:03:17AM THEY ONLY GIVE ME 30 DAYS TO GET OUT OF THERE, WHICH I'VE
10:03:20AM BEEN THERE FOR 30 YEARS.
10:03:23AM COST SOME COMPANY -- CAUSE SOME COMPANY PUT A LIEN ON MY
10:03:31AM PROPERTY WHICH I WASN'T AWARE OF.
10:03:36AM I NEED TO KNOW FROM YOU ALL WHAT THE BEST POSSIBILITY I NEED
10:03:41AM TO TAKE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN MY RESIDENCE.
10:03:45AM I KNOW YOU ALL TELL ME, AIN'T GOING TO SAY NOTHING, BUT I'M
10:03:50AM -- MY MERCY IS TOWARD YOU ALL BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE SEEM TO
10:03:54AM HAVE MERCY ON ME BUT GOD ALMIGHTY.
10:03:58AM SO THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
10:04:02AM I'M ON A FIXED INCOME.
10:04:04AM DON'T GET NOTHING FROM THE GOVERNMENT BUT MY LITTLE SOCIAL
10:04:13AM SECURITY CHECK WHICH DON'T AMOUNT TO NOTHING.
10:04:15AM MY WIFE PASSED.
10:04:18AM THAT'S SAD.
10:04:21AM I'M SORRY TO HAVE TO SAY THAT.
10:04:25AM DON'T HAVE MY INCOME COMING IN, BUT TO MAINTAIN THE
10:04:31AM RESIDENCE.
10:04:32AM WHAT SHOULD I DO AND KEEP THEM FROM FORECLOSING MY PLACE?
10:04:37AM CAN YOU ALL GIVE ME AN ANSWER NOW?
10:04:40AM LET ME GIVE THIS TO THE LAWYER HERE.
10:04:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HAND IT TO THE ATTORNEY AND WE'LL SEE.
10:04:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CHIEF BENNETT, CAN YOU WORK WITH HIM?
10:04:53AM THANK YOU.
10:04:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:05:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PASTOR, THOSE ARE YOUR COPIES, AREN'T THEY?
10:05:04AM THOSE ARE YOUR COPIES, IS THAT RIGHT?
10:05:07AM >> YEAH.
10:05:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE'LL HAVE TO RETURN THOSE TO YOU.
10:05:10AM MAKE SURE WE RETURN THOSE TO YOU.
10:05:12AM >> I GOT A HEARING DEFECT.
10:05:14AM I CAN'T HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
10:05:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. MASSEY IS LOOKING AT IT.
10:05:18AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET BACK -- IF WE NEED TO MAKE
10:05:22AM COPIES, WE'LL ARRANGE THAT.
10:05:25AM >> OKAY.
10:05:25AM THAT WILL BE GOOD BECAUSE THEY ONLY GIVE ME 30 DAYS TO GET
10:05:30AM OUT OF MY HOUSE.
10:05:32AM I KNOW THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
10:05:34AM BEING A SENIOR CITIZEN, BEING SICKLY, GOT TO WALK WITH MY
10:05:38AM WALKER AND EVERYTHING.
10:05:40AM LOOKS LIKE NOBODY GIVE A DAMN.
10:05:41AM I BROUGHT LETTERS UP HERE TO YOU ALL.
10:05:46AM NONE OF YOU ALL RESPOND, NOT EVEN THE MAIL RESPOND, NOBODY
10:05:51AM RESPOND.
10:05:51AM I GUESS BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF MY SKIN, WHO I AM.
10:05:56AM MY CHURCH RIGHT DOWN SCOTT STREET, YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY BLOCK
10:06:00AM MY ALLEYWAY.
10:06:01AM CAN'T GET INTO MY PARKING.
10:06:04AM I TOLD YOU ALL ABOUT THAT.
10:06:06AM YOU THINK YOU COME DOWN THERE AND CHECK ME OUT?
10:06:09AM NO, NOBODY COME DOWN THERE.
10:06:14AM CITY TREAT CERTAIN PEOPLE BUT THE REST OF THEM, THEY DO GOOD
10:06:18AM FOR THEM.
10:06:18AM WE JUST -- WHY AM I POINTING OUT THE WAY I AM?
10:06:24AM MISTREATED BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF MY SKIN.
10:06:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:29AM >> I'M NOT THROUGH YET.
10:06:32AM COPY THAT.
10:06:40AM LET ME KNOW WHAT I NEED TO DO BECAUSE I'M LOST.
10:06:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:46AM >> 85 YEARS OLD, NOBODY SEEMS TO GIVE A DAMN ABOUT AN
10:06:51AM 85-YEAR-OLD BLACK MAN.
10:06:53AM I KNOW WHO DO GIVE A DAMN AND THAT'S GOD ALMIGHTY.
10:06:57AM I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR BEING ON MY SIDE AND YOUR SIDE, TOO.
10:07:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:01AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:07:02AM YES, SIR.
10:07:08AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:07:10AM GOOD MORNING, MR. SHELBY, CITY STAFF, MADAM CLERK.
10:07:14AM CAMILA SOTO, YOUR FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD TAMPANIO, ALSO
10:07:18AM HAPPENS TO BE AN ATTORNEY AND AN URBAN PLANNER, HERE TO TAKE
10:07:21AM A FEW MINUTES TO EXPOUND ON AN ISSUE I BRIEFLY BROUGHT UP AT
10:07:25AM THE COUNCIL'S 9/14/23 MEETING, MORE SPECIFICALLY THE
10:07:29AM FLOODING ISSUES THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING OVER IN TAMPA
10:07:32AM HEIGHTS.
10:07:32AM I THINK ON THE RECORD YOU SHOULD HAVE AN E-MAIL CHAIN THAT
10:07:38AM I'VE SHARED WITH ALL OF YOU SHOWING THAT SINCE 2021 I'VE
10:07:41AM BEEN REALLY WORKING WITH STORMWATER TO GET SOME ACTION
10:07:45AM SOONER RATHER THAN LATER WITH REGARD TO THE FLOODING ISSUES
10:07:50AM WE HAVE IN OUR PARTICULAR QUADRANT OF TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:07:52AM WHAT THAT E-MAIL CHAIN DOESN'T CONTEXTUALIZE IS SPENT NEARLY
10:07:56AM A YEAR BEFORE THAT TRYING TO GET TO THE APPROPRIATE
10:07:58AM DEPARTMENT TO GET SOME SORT OF ACTION ON THIS.
10:08:02AM I CONSIDER MYSELF SOMEWHAT SOPHISTICATED.
10:08:06AM AND WHILE DECENTLY INFORMED IN TERMS OF HOW TO GET ANSWERS
10:08:10AM FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT E-MAIL
10:08:14AM CHAIN, IT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME TO BASICALLY GET THE ANSWER AS
10:08:19AM OF I THINK OF THE LAST E-MAIL FROM MR. MAYS IN THAT THE
10:08:23AM CITY'S STORMWATER DEPARTMENT WANTS TO WAIT FOR F.D.O.T. TO
10:08:27AM IMPLEMENT FLOOD REDRESS TO TAMPA STREET AND FLORIDA AVENUE.
10:08:31AM PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE.
10:08:35AM WE PAY, ESPECIALLY NEW BUILDS PAY A LOT IN PROPERTY TAXES.
10:08:40AM CITY OF TAMPA HAS APPROVED A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT,
10:08:43AM PARTICULARLY ALONG THIS ALLEYWAY THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
10:08:48AM THERE'S PROPERTY VALUES THAT ARE INCREASING, POOLS, TWO
10:08:52AM POOLS HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR PROPERTIES THAT ABUT THE SAME
10:08:55AM ALLEYWAY.
10:08:58AM WHAT WILL IT TAKE TO GET ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT
10:09:02AM LIST FOR STORMWATER REDRESS FOR TAMPA HEIGHTS?
10:09:05AM ONE OF MY LATER E-MAILS IN THAT CHAIN AND I WANT
10:09:09AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND THE AT-LARGE COMMISSIONERS,
10:09:12AM COUNCIL MEMBERS TO BE AWARE.
10:09:14AM THERE'S HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS RIGHT NOW BEING SPENT OR
10:09:18AM PROPOSED TO BE SPENT ON STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:09:21AM AND THAT'S THE CURRENT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LIST.
10:09:25AM OF THAT $46 MILLION PROJECT IS SLATED FOR PARKLAND ESTATES.
10:09:32AM $10 MILLION PROJECT FOR BELMAR GARDENS.
10:09:35AM YOU WILL NOTICE THERE IS NOT ONE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE
10:09:38AM PROJECT FOR TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:09:39AM NOT ONE.
10:09:41AM I CAN SPECULATE AS TO WHY THAT IS, BUT I WON'T BECAUSE I
10:09:45AM DEAL IN FACTS.
10:09:46AM WHAT I WANT IS TO GET ON THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT
10:09:50AM LIST.
10:09:50AM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO WAS SO KIND TO LINK ME WITH HIS
10:09:54AM LEGISLATIVE AIDE.
10:09:55AM I LOOK FORWARD TO COLLABORATING WITH HER AND GETTING OUR
10:09:58AM NEIGHBORHOOD MORE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN SEEING SOME ACTION.
10:10:01AM AND BECAUSE I AM A SHAMELESS SHILL FOR USF FOOTBALL, THERE
10:10:05AM IS A REMINDER THAT USF PLAYS RICE THIS SATURDAY AT RAYMOND
10:10:08AM JAMES STADIUM.
10:10:09AM HOPE YOU ALL HAVE YOUR TICKETS AND GO BULLS.
10:10:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:10:12AM MR. BHIDE IS ON THE LINE.
10:10:14AM MR. BHIDE, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK, SIR?
10:10:17AM >>VIK BHIDE: YES, THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:10:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL BRING IT UP UNDER STAFF REPORTS
10:10:21AM LATER ON.
10:10:23AM YOU'RE APPEARING LATER ON IN THE AGENDA.
10:10:25AM SO WE'LL COME UP ON THIS TOPIC THEN.
10:10:28AM OKAY.
10:10:29AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:10:29AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:10:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:10:34AM KAMI CORBETT WITH THE LAW FIRM OF HILL WARD & HENDERSON.
10:10:37AM I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE PROPERTIES
10:10:40AM THAT ARE THE SUBJECT OF ITEM 67.
10:10:42AM I CONCUR WITH BOTH YOUR CITY ATTORNEY AND YOUR COUNCIL
10:10:46AM ATTORNEY THAT THAT ITEM IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO BE
10:10:48AM SUBSTANTIVELY DISCUSSED TODAY.
10:10:49AM I WOULD LIKE TO PLACE A LETTER INTO THE RECORD STATING THE
10:10:52AM OWNER'S POSITION BOTH ON THE VALIDITY OF THE STOP WORK ORDER
10:10:55AM AND THE ALLEGED CODE VIOLATION.
10:10:59AM WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT TO THE RECORD.
10:11:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE, MR. SHELBY?
10:11:04AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:11:08AM CLENDENIN.
10:11:08AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:11:09AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:11:11AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:11:12AM >> AYE.
10:11:13AM >> I WANT TO ADD I DID PROVIDE A COPY TO MR. LIENHARD AS
10:11:16AM WELL.
10:11:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:11:17AM NEXT SPEAKER, YES, MA'AM.
10:11:20AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
10:11:21AM MY NAME IS AUDREY TORANZO, A STUDENT OF PUBLIC POLICY AND
10:11:26AM ADMINISTRATION AT ST. PETERSBURG COLLEGE, BUT I AM A NATIVE
10:11:29AM TAMPANIAN.
10:11:31AM I CURRENTLY LIVE AT 4513 DEVONSHIRE ROAD.
10:11:36AM TODAY, I AM COMING TO YOU BECAUSE I'M CURRENTLY WORKING ON A
10:11:40AM CASE STUDY INVOLVING TODAY'S TOPIC, WHICH IS ITEM 59, I
10:11:43AM BELIEVE, WHICH IS THE DESIGNATION OF THE JOHNSON HOUSE AS AN
10:11:47AM HISTORICAL LANDMARK LOCATED AT 1248 EAST SCOTT STREET AND
10:11:51AM 1250 EAST SCOTT STREET IN TAMPA.
10:11:53AM I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME
10:11:56AM TO SPEAK ON THIS SUBJECT.
10:11:57AM AGAIN, ALTHOUGH I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF THE HISTORIC CENTRAL
10:12:03AM AVENUE AREA, AS A NATIVE AND CURRENT RESIDENT OF TAMPA, I
10:12:07AM BELIEVE WE SHOULD PRESERVE THE JOHNSON HOUSES.
10:12:09AM IN MY RESEARCH I FOUND THE CITY OF TAMPA HISTORIC
10:12:11AM PRESERVATION COMMISSION RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY THAT THE
10:12:13AM JOHNSON HOUSES BE DESIGNATED AS HISTORICAL LANDMARKS,
10:12:18AM REPRESENTING THE AREA KNOWN AS THE SCRUBS, IT IS OF VITAL
10:12:21AM IMPORTANCE TO THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY AS ONE OF THE
10:12:23AM GOALS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO --
10:12:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MA'AM, SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
10:12:27AM THAT IS COMING UP LATER IN THE AGENDA AS A PUBLIC HEARING
10:12:30AM AND WE'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING THAT.
10:12:33AM >> YES, SIR.
10:12:33AM THANK YOU.
10:12:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:34AM YES, MA'AM.
10:12:39AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:12:42AM CONNIE BURTON.
10:12:43AM FIRST, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE BUDGET, THE HOUSING INITIATIVE
10:12:51AM IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
10:12:52AM THE OPENING OF THE MEETING -- I MEAN, THE PHRASE, THE
10:12:59AM GREATER GOOD OF GOD SHOULD BE OUR MEASURING STICK ON HOW WE
10:13:04AM GET THERE.
10:13:05AM AND I THINK THROUGH THAT BUDGET OF HOUSING, IT IS INDEED A
10:13:12AM CRISIS, WE ADD ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:13:15AM I'M CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT
10:13:18AM NATIONAL NEWS AND LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT'S ON THE FRONT LINE
10:13:21AM PICKETING FOR WAGES AND BETTER ACCOMMODATIONS AND THEN YOU
10:13:25AM SEE CEOs MAKING $29 MILLION A YEAR, IT'S JUST LIKE, OH.
10:13:32AM SO I'M CONCERNED THAT WHEN WE ARE IN OUR BUDGET MODE AND
10:13:37AM PARTNERING WITH OUR HOUSING INITIATIVE PROGRAM, THAT WE KEEP
10:13:44AM AN EYE AND MAKE SURE THAT FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF WHAT WE'RE
10:13:48AM TRYING TO IMPROVE IN WORKING WITH SOME OF THESE PARTNERS,
10:13:52AM THAT THEIR SALARIES DON'T EXCEED THE GREATER GOOD OF WHAT
10:13:57AM YOU WANT TO HAVE ACCOMPLISHED.
10:13:58AM AND THAT IS HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL.
10:14:01AM THE MENTION OF TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND WHERE THEY FIT
10:14:09AM INTO THIS RAMP OF HELPING TO ASSIST THE CITY SINCE YOU CAN'T
10:14:14AM DO IT ALL BY YOURSELF, IT IS THE CITY THAT THE HOUSING BOARD
10:14:19AM IS COMPRISED OF MEMBERS OF THIS CITY GOVERNMENT THAT IS
10:14:24AM APPOINTED TO THAT BOARD.
10:14:26AM I HAVE YET TO SEE THEM COME HERE AND GIVE AN ANALYSIS OF HOW
10:14:32AM THEY ARE WORKING TO DECREASE HOMELESSNESS.
10:14:35AM WHAT IS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY DOING TO MOVE PEOPLE TOWARD
10:14:40AM HOME OWNERSHIP?
10:14:41AM AND SOMETIMES THE NUMBERS SOUND GOOD BUT THE REALITY IN OUR
10:14:44AM COMMUNITY IS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT ABLE TO UTILIZE THEIR
10:14:49AM SECTION 8 COUPONS BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF AVAILABILITY.
10:14:55AM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY GET A LOT OF MONEY.
10:14:59AM THEY SHOULD BE ASKED TO COME HERE TO WORK WITH YOUR HOUSING
10:15:01AM DEPARTMENT SO WE CAN WORK IN A GREATER PARTNERSHIP TO SOLVE
10:15:06AM SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS.
10:15:08AM LASTLY, I WOULD SAY THAT MICHELLE HORN FROM THE REAL ESTATE
10:15:17AM DEPARTMENT PROVIDED YOU ALL WITH A LIST OF AVAILABLE
10:15:21AM PROPERTIES IN EAST TAMPA THAT IS NOT OF TRADITIONAL SIZE
10:15:26AM THAT YOU MOVE WITH GREAT HASTE SO WE CAN START BUILDING ON
10:15:30AM THOSE PROPERTIES SO WE CAN HAVE SOME SOLID SOLUTIONS WITHIN
10:15:35AM THIS BUDGET -- I MEAN, WITHIN THESE NEXT FOUR YEARS FOR TRUE
10:15:39AM ACCOUNTABILITY.
10:15:41AM WE'VE WAITED A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
10:15:43AM YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES, SO LET'S GET MOVING.
10:15:46AM THANK YOU.
10:15:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:47AM NEXT SPEAKER, YES, SIR.
10:15:53AM >> MENTESNOT.
10:15:54AM UHURU.
10:15:58AM MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
10:16:00AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
10:16:04AM FREEDOM.
10:16:04AM THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
10:16:05AM I THINK WHAT YOU HAD TODAY IS A SYNOPSIS OF OUR 623-YEAR
10:16:11AM REALITY WHEN PASTOR WILLIAMS STATED, IT'S NO RECOGNITION OF
10:16:21AM AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:16:23AM WHEN WE SPEAK, YOU ALL DON'T HEAR US.
10:16:26AM IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT WE DO OR HOW WE DO IT, YOU ALL DON'T
10:16:30AM SEE US, BECAUSE YOU ALL TRY TO CONNECT US TO SUBROGATION.
10:16:35AM AND IMAGINE AFRICAN PEOPLE WALKING AROUND FROM THE DAY WE'RE
10:16:39AM BORN TO THE DAY WE DIE.
10:16:42AM IMAGINE MR. MOSES KNOTT COMING DOWN HERE AT THIS CITY
10:16:46AM COUNCIL ABOUT HOW THEY ARE TREATING HIM AND KNOW THE CITY
10:16:51AM CAN'T HEAR HIM.
10:16:52AM I DON'T EVER COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING PERSONAL BECAUSE THAT'S
10:16:55AM NOT EVEN IMPORTANT.
10:16:58AM BUT WHAT THIS CITY, WHAT THIS CITY PUT AFRICAN PEOPLE
10:17:03AM THROUGH AND IRRESPECTIVE OF WHO IT IS, NO MATTER WHAT
10:17:07AM DEPARTMENT THEY WORK IN, THE CITY WORKERS ACT LIKE KU KLUX
10:17:11AM KLAN PEOPLE WHEN IT COMES TO AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:17:16AM IF IT'S CODE ENFORCEMENT, IF IT'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IF
10:17:19AM IT'S THE WATER DEPARTMENT, IF IT'S THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT,
10:17:22AM IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT IT IS, THEY TREAT US WITH LIKE A DEGREE
10:17:27AM OF INDIGNATION, LIKE IT'S A CERTAIN KIND OF HATRED FOR BLACK
10:17:33AM SKIN.
10:17:33AM AND THAT'S WHAT WE GET.
10:17:36AM AND YOU CAN'T GET ANSWERS, NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO.
10:17:40AM WHITE PEOPLE COME DOWN HERE, OH, IT'S LIKE A DOG WAS
10:17:43AM CROSSING MY STREET.
10:17:45AM WELL, WE BETTER GET DOWN THERE AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
10:17:50AM LET MY AIDE GET OVER THERE.
10:17:53AM THERE IS A TREE.
10:17:54AM BETTER DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
10:17:55AM BLACK PEOPLE COME DOWN HERE WITH REAL PROBLEMS.
10:17:58AM REAL LIFE PROBLEMS, AND YOU ALL DON'T HEAR THEM.
10:18:01AM IT'S LIKE A DEAFNESS SILENCE, LIKE AN EDWARD DEAFENING
10:18:08AM SILENCE, LIKE YOU ALL CAN'T HEAR US.
10:18:10AM WHEN WE GO AND RESIST TYRANNY, OH, THEY LOOTERS, THEY
10:18:16AM RIOTERS, THEY SHOPLIFTERS.
10:18:19AM THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO BE HEARD IN A DEMOCRATIC
10:18:24AM SOCIETY.
10:18:25AM AND ONE OF THE THINGS I SAY IS, I REALLY WANT TO GET TO THE
10:18:29AM BOTTOM OF THIS.
10:18:31AM FOR EIGHT YEARS I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND OUT, HOW DID YOU
10:18:34AM SAY YOU SERVE SOMEONE A SUMMONS AND NO ONE CAN FIND IT AND
10:18:38AM HAVE A CASE GOING AGAINST A PERSON.
10:18:40AM FOR EIGHT YEARS, THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE
10:18:44AM CAN'T -- OR THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE CAN'T GET TO THE
10:18:48AM BOTTOM OF A SUMMONS.
10:18:49AM THAT'S THE RESPECT AFRICAN PEOPLE GET ALL AROUND,
10:18:55AM IRRESPECTIVE OF WHERE WE ARE OR WHAT WE'RE DOING.
10:18:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:18:58AM YES, MA'AM.
10:19:05AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:19:07AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:19:09AM AS YOU GUYS KNOW, OR AS EVERYONE KNOWS, I'LL COME DOWN AND
10:19:14AM BE MEAN TO YOU WHEN IT'S NEEDED, BUT TODAY I WANT TO COME UP
10:19:18AM AND THANK YOU.
10:19:19AM THANK YOU FOR THE VOTE.
10:19:20AM THANK YOU FOR PUTTING HOUSING ON THE FOREFRONT.
10:19:27AM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO, YOU KNOW YOU SET THE TONE AND
10:19:34AM INDICATING THAT THIS IS -- IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU
10:19:37AM WERE GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO DO THAT.
10:19:41AM LYNN AND GWEN, YOU ALL CLOSED IT UP.
10:19:45AM EVERYBODY HAD AN IMPORTANT PART IN IT.
10:19:48AM AND I LOVE THE THOUGHT PROCESS.
10:19:50AM THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD BE.
10:19:51AM SO I APPRECIATE IT.
10:19:54AM AND IT WAS ALL ABOUT -- WELL, HOUSING AND FIRE.
10:19:57AM SO WE CAME TO A RECKONING.
10:19:59AM BUT HOUSING AND FIRE ARE THE TOP TWO --
10:20:05AM [ENCODER DROP]
10:20:14AM -- THERE WAS A MOTION MADE -- I JUST WANT TO PUT A REMINDER
10:20:20AM OUT THERE.
10:20:21AM REMEMBER?
10:20:21AM OKAY.
10:20:22AM JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DEBT ISSUANCE MOTION THAT
10:20:27AM WAS POSSIBLY MADE IS MADE TODAY.
10:20:30AM BUT I JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING
10:20:33AM VERY DILIGENT, MAKING THIS WORK.
10:20:37AM NOW THE MONEY HAS TO GO WHERE IT'S OUTLINED AND ALLOCATED TO
10:20:42AM GO SO THAT PEOPLE CAN DO WHAT THEY PRESENTED THAT THEY WANT
10:20:47AM TO HAVE DONE AND IT GETS DONE.
10:20:49AM SO THANKS A LOT.
10:20:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:20:51AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:51AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:20:54AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:20:55AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:20:56AM FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
10:20:59AM THE BUDGET MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT WAS A BREATH OF FRESH AIR
10:21:04AM AFTER THE TWO BEFORE THAT.
10:21:05AM NUMBER 67 IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.
10:21:13AM HERE IS A SITE PLAN FOR TOWN HOUSES THAT WERE BUILT IN MY
10:21:19AM COMMUNITY.
10:21:20AM NOTICE THAT THESE ARE 12.8 FEET FROM THE STREET.
10:21:23AM WHAT IS THE SETBACK SUPPOSED TO BE?
10:21:25AM I THINK 25.
10:21:26AM I'M NOT REAL SURE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
10:21:29AM THESE ARE 20 FEET BACK.
10:21:31AM AND THERE WAS AN SU-1 FILED IN 2021 FOR THE PARTICULAR UNITS
10:21:37AM AND THEN THEY WITHDREW IT.
10:21:39AM THEN THEY BUILT SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT UP TO CODE.
10:21:43AM HOW DID IT GET PASSED?
10:21:44AM HOW DID IT GET SOLD TO A HOMEOWNER?
10:21:46AM NOW THESE PROPERTIES ACTUALLY BELONG TO OTHER PEOPLE.
10:21:49AM THE BUILDER BUILT THEM, NOT FOLLOWING CODE, NOT DOING WHAT
10:21:54AM THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.
10:21:55AM AND THEN THEY FILED THIS NIFTY LITTLE PIECE OF PAPER IN 2023
10:21:59AM THAT SAYS, PER MR. COTTON, THIS IS AN SU 1 TO MEMORIALIZE
10:22:05AM WHAT WAS BUILT ON THE FOUR LOTS.
10:22:07AM I'VE SEEN STUFF COME BEFORE COUNCIL THAT THEY HAD TO DO SU
10:22:10AM 1s, SOMETHING WAS BUILT 20, 30 YEARS AGO AND WE HAVE TO
10:22:13AM BRING IT UP TO CODE.
10:22:15AM BUT WHY ARE WE BUILDING THINGS THAT ARE NOT TO CODE AND THEY
10:22:19AM STILL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, I DROVE BY THERE TODAY.
10:22:23AM I DRIVE BY HERE QUITE OFTEN.
10:22:26AM THE MEMORANDUMS FROM STAFF SAY THAT THE ROBERTS AVENUE PLACE
10:22:33AM WASN'T BUILT TO CODE, IT WASN'T BUILT TO THE PLAN.
10:22:37AM THE TRANSPORTATION SITE PLAN.
10:22:38AM THERE WERE NO SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF ANY OF THESE FOUR
10:22:41AM DUPLEXES.
10:22:43AM SO THIS IS NOT -- NUMBER 67 IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT, SO
10:22:47AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE SOME
10:22:50AM OTHER ISSUES WITH PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY WHO ARE TAKING THE
10:22:55AM RULES AND DOING WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEM AND THROW THEM IN
10:22:58AM THE GARBAGE CAN.
10:23:00AM HONESTLY, LOOK UP THE DEVELOPER ON THIS AND YOU'LL SEE THAT
10:23:04AM IT'S SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS BETTER.
10:23:06AM IT IS SOMEBODY WHO KNOWS BETTER.
10:23:08AM THESE ARE NOT FOLKS WHO ARE BRAND-NEW, THIS IS THE FIRST
10:23:10AM TIME THEY HAVE DONE IT.
10:23:11AM SECOND, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ETHICS COMMISSION BECAUSE
10:23:13AM IT'S ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
10:23:15AM WHY BOTHER?
10:23:15AM SERIOUSLY.
10:23:17AM I FILED ETHICS COMPLAINTS.
10:23:21AM THEY CAME BACK WITH NOTHING.
10:23:22AM I HAD TO GO TO -- HR IS IN CHARGE, THEY ARE THE LIAISONS FOR
10:23:27AM THE ETHICS COMMISSION.
10:23:28AM I HAD TO GO TO THEM SEVERAL TIMES.
10:23:30AM SEVERAL, SEVERAL, SEVERAL TIMES.
10:23:32AM IT WASN'T UNTIL I SHOWED UP ON SOMEBODY'S DOORSTEP ON THE
10:23:35AM ETHICS COMMISSION THAT I GOT NASTY-GRAMS FROM THE HR
10:23:39AM DEPARTMENT AND THEY HAD A MEETING.
10:23:41AM IT WAS THE MOST AMAZING THING.
10:23:42AM NOW, IF THE PERSON WHO I CAME TO THEIR HOUSE WAS TOTALLY
10:23:45AM OFFENDED BY ME SHOWING UP THERE, SHE WOULDN'T HAVE INVITED
10:23:48AM ME IN AND MADE ME ICED TEA AND TALKED TO ME FOR 45 MINUTES.
10:23:52AM BUT THE HR DEPARTMENT IS SENDING ME CERTIFIED LETTERS
10:23:55AM TELLING ME I CAN'T GO TO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE.
10:23:57AM LAST TIME I CHECKED I CAN GO WHERE I WANT.
10:24:00AM THE ETHICS COMMISSION, EITHER USE IT PROPERLY OR GET RID OF
10:24:03AM IT.
10:24:04AM IT IS A WASTE OF TIME IN MY OPINION.
10:24:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:24:06AM ANYBODY ELSE HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:24:08AM WE'LL GO INTO THE AGENDA.
10:24:10AM AT THIS TIME, WE GO TO OUR CONSENT.
10:24:13AM THE FIRST ITEMS ARE 5-13.
10:24:15AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:24:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE THE AFOREMENTIONED ITEMS, MR. CHAIR.
10:24:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:24:21AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:24:22AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:24:23AM AYE.
10:24:24AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:24:24AM YES, MA'AM.
10:24:26AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:24:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PARKS AND RECREATION, MOVE ITEM 14, CHAIR.
10:24:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
10:24:31AM HENDERSON.
10:24:31AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:24:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:24:33AM AYE.
10:24:34AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:24:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I MOVE ITEMS 15-20.
10:24:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:24:40AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:24:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:24:42AM AYE.
10:24:43AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:24:43AM NEXT UP, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:24:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 21-27 AND --
10:24:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA WITH A MOTION.
10:24:54AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:24:55AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:24:56AM AYE.
10:24:57AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, YOU HAVE 30 THROUGH 43.
10:25:00AM REMEMBER, WE REQUESTED TO PULL 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39 AND
10:25:06AM 41.
10:25:06AM WOULD YOU MOVE THE OTHERS?
10:25:08AM >> SO MOVED.
10:25:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:25:10AM CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:25:13AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:25:13AM AYE.
10:25:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEMS 44 THROUGH 46.
10:25:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WITH A MOTION
10:25:20AM FOR ITEMS 44 THROUGH 46.
10:25:23AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:25:25AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:25:26AM AYE.
10:25:27AM WE NOW NEED A MOTION FOR 47 TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR
10:25:34AM OCTOBER 12, 2023, AT 5:01 P.M. AND NOVEMBER 2nd, 2023 AT
10:25:41AM 10:30 A.M. IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD,
10:25:45AM THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
10:25:48AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:25:49AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:25:50AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:25:51AM AYE.
10:25:52AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE --
10:25:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN --
10:25:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SORRY, AT THE END OF THE CONSENT AGENDA,
10:25:58AM WE WERE GOING TO MOVE ITEMS 63 AND 64.
10:26:02AM IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS AND WE BROUGHT THIS UP EARLIER
10:26:06AM ABOUT STAFF BEING PRESENT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM
10:26:10AM 63?
10:26:10AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:26:12AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:26:14AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:14AM AYE.
10:26:15AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE ITEM 64.
10:26:18AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:26:20AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:26:22AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:23AM AYE.
10:26:24AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS, 9:30 A.M.
10:26:29AM PUBLIC HEARINGS?
10:26:29AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:26:31AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:26:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:26:33AM AYE.
10:26:35AM ALL RIGHT.
10:26:36AM WE'LL GO TO THE FIRST THREE.
10:26:38AM THEY ARE NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:26:39AM WE'LL SWEAR EVERYBODY IN.
10:26:42AM ITEM NUMBER 48.
10:26:44AM ITEM NUMBER 48.
10:26:45AM WE'RE MOVING QUICKER THAN USUAL.
10:26:51AM THIS IS DOING THE HONORARY STREET NAMING FOR SALVADOR
10:26:58AM MARTINEZ YBOR.
10:26:59AM IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO PRESENT ON THIS ITEM?
10:27:01AM I KNOW IT CAME FROM STAFF.
10:27:03AM IF NOT, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
10:27:05AM ON THIS ITEM?
10:27:06AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE.
10:27:09AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:27:11AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:27:12AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:27:12AM AYE.
10:27:13AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, THIS WAS YOUR MOTION, SO WOULD YOU
10:27:17AM LIKE TO READ IT?
10:27:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:27:21AM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:27:23AM FLORIDA, APPROVING THE PLACEMENT OF AN HONORARY STREET
10:27:25AM NAMING SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION OF 9th AVENUE AND 19th
10:27:28AM STREET IN YBOR CITY, FLORIDA, TO HONOR SALVADOR MARTINEZ
10:27:32AM YBOR; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:27:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:27:35AM VIERA.
10:27:35AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:27:37AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:27:42AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:27:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:46AM ITEM 49 IS ALSO PRESENTED BY THE CITY.
10:27:49AM I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE ON THAT.
10:27:51AM THIS IS FOR THE HONORARY STREET DESIGNATION FOR MR. MICHAEL
10:27:55AM PHILLIPS.
10:27:56AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS
10:27:58AM ITEM?
10:27:58AM ITEM 49.
10:27:59AM I SEE NO ONE.
10:28:00AM MOTION TO CLOSE?
10:28:01AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM COUNCIL
10:28:04AM MEMBER VIERA.
10:28:04AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:28:05AM AYE.
10:28:06AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, I'LL GO TO YOU AGAIN.
10:28:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:28:12AM --
10:28:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M SORRY.
10:28:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S OKAY.
10:28:16AM GO, GO.
10:28:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:28:24AM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
10:28:28AM FLORIDA, APPROVING THE PLACEMENT OF AN HONORARY STREET
10:28:31AM NAMING SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION OF HIMES AVENUE AND SAN JOSE
10:28:34AM STREET IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS TO HONOR
10:28:37AM MICHAEL PHILLIPS; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:28:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:28:43AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:28:47AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:28:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, YOU INITIALLY
10:28:52AM PRESENTED THIS ON MR. PHILLIPS.
10:28:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE WENT BACK AND FORTH.
10:28:57AM HE STARTED AND THEN DEFERRED BACK TO ME.
10:28:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: I STARTED ON THIS A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
10:29:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND THEN WE READ THE LAST ONE, YOU HANDED
10:29:04AM IT TO ME.
10:29:05AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN MR. PHILLIPS DIED TWO AND A HALF YEARS
10:29:09AM AGO --
10:29:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ALL LOVE MICHAEL.
10:29:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, YEAH.
10:29:13AM WE STARTED ON THAT, AND IT'S A GREAT THING THAT WE'RE DOING
10:29:19AM THOSE.
10:29:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 50.
10:29:23AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY --
10:29:30AM >>ROSS SAMONS: PRESENTING FILE VAC-23-18 FOR SECOND READING
10:29:36AM AND ADOPTION.
10:29:36AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:29:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. SAMONS?
10:29:41AM NO.
10:29:42AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 50.
10:29:46AM >> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD OTHER THAN WHAT --
10:29:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:29:48AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
10:29:50AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:29:52AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:29:54AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:29:54AM AYE.
10:29:55AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:29:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 50, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
10:30:00AM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
10:30:05AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND
10:30:08AM ABANDONING THAT ALLEYWAY LOCATED NORTH OF VIRGINIA AVENUE,
10:30:11AM SOUTH OF SELMA AVENUE, EAST OF SUWANEE AVENUE AND WEST OF
10:30:14AM MAYFIELD AVENUE, WITHIN THE PLAT OF GOOD'S ADDITION TO TAMPA
10:30:18AM SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY,
10:30:20AM FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF,
10:30:24AM SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS
10:30:26AM MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR
10:30:29AM ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR
10:30:30AM DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND REPEALING CONFLICTS.
10:30:33AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:30:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:30:36AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:30:38AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:30:39AM I'M SORRY.
10:30:40AM RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:30:44AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN AND HURTAK VOTING
10:30:47AM NO.
10:30:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:30:49AM AT THIS TIME WE GO INTO OUR QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
10:30:51AM THESE ARE SECOND READINGS.
10:30:54AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 51, 2, 3, 4.
10:31:02AM IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS, PLEASE STAND AND
10:31:05AM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN
10:31:09AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:31:16AM ALL RIGHT.
10:31:17AM LET'S BEGIN.
10:31:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:31:20AM CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:31:21AM ITEM 51 IS REZ-22-23.
10:31:24AM THIS IS THE SECOND READING ON AN ORDINANCE CORRECTING A
10:31:27AM SCRIVENER'S ERROR WHEREIN WE REPLACED THE CERTIFIED SITE
10:31:32AM PLAN AS EXHIBIT B.
10:31:33AM I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:31:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:31:36AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 51.
10:31:41AM MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO -- WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM
10:31:43AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:31:44AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:31:46AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:31:46AM AYE.
10:31:47AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM 51.
10:31:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:31:51AM ITEM 51, I MOVE FILE REZ-22-23, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
10:31:57AM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:31:59AM AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022-106 WHICH
10:32:05AM REZONED THE PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 5411 WEST
10:32:09AM TYSON AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, IN ORDER TO
10:32:13AM CORRECT A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE SITE PLAN ATTACHED AS
10:32:19AM EXHIBIT B TO SAID ORDINANCE; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:32:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
10:32:25AM MIRANDA.
10:32:25AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:32:31AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:32:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:32:35AM ITEM NUMBER 52.
10:32:40AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD MORNING COUNCIL.
10:32:41AM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:32:44AM 52 IS AB 2-23-12.
10:32:48AM IT IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:32:51AM REVISED PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED
10:32:53AM AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
10:32:55AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:32:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOCK?
10:32:58AM YES, SIR, DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
10:33:01AM COME ON UP.
10:33:02AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:33:03AM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, SIR?
10:33:05AM >> JUST SAYING THANK YOU TO COUNCIL AND HAVE A GREAT DAY.
10:33:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:10AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
10:33:12AM 52?
10:33:13AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:33:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:33:18AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:33:18AM AYE.
10:33:19AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, ITEM 52.
10:33:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST SECOND
10:33:27AM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE
10:33:29AM PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES SALES, SMALL VENUE,
10:33:36AM CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF
10:33:39AM BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC CONTENT BEER, WINE, AND
10:33:42AM LIQUOR ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT
10:33:48AM 101 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE
10:33:52AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3, PROVIDING THAT ALL
10:33:54AM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED,
10:33:57AM REPEALING ORDINANCE 97-57, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:34:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:34:01AM CLENDENIN.
10:34:01AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:34:03AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:34:08AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:34:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 53.
10:34:13AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE FOR ITEM 53.
10:34:16AM YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
10:34:16AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCIL.
10:34:19AM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:34:20AM ITEM 53 IS AB 2-23-20.
10:34:24AM THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING AND
10:34:28AM ADOPTION.
10:34:28AM REVISED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND PROVIDED TO THE
10:34:31AM CLERK.
10:34:31AM THOSE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED.
10:34:33AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:34:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOCK?
10:34:36AM NO.
10:34:37AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE REPRESENTING ITEM NUMBER 53 AND THE
10:34:43AM APPLICANT?
10:34:43AM I SEE NO ONE.
10:34:45AM THEY ARE ONLINE.
10:34:47AM APPLICANT FOR 53, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?
10:34:51AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE COULD BRING THEM UP.
10:34:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
10:35:01AM I SEE STEVEN.
10:35:03AM IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND
10:35:06AM AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN AND UNMUTE YOURSELF
10:35:09AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:35:13AM >> YES, I DO.
10:35:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:35:15AM ITEM 53.
10:35:18AM >> HI, COUNCIL.
10:35:19AM JUST IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
10:35:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:35:23AM ALL RIGHT.
10:35:25AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:26AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
10:35:29AM 53?
10:35:29AM I SEE NO ONE.
10:35:31AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:35:32AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:35:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:35:34AM AYE.
10:35:35AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU MIND READING 53?
10:35:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:35:38AM FILE AB 2-23-20, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:35:42AM READING AND ADOPTION.
10:35:43AM AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR
10:35:46AM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES SALES, SMALL VENUE, CONSUMPTION ON
10:35:50AM PREMISES ONLY, AND MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE
10:35:53AM AT OR FROM THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT, OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED
10:35:58AM AT 709 SOUTH OREGON AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
10:36:02AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2; PROVIDING THAT ALL
10:36:05AM ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED;
10:36:10AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:36:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
10:36:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
10:36:15AM HURTAK.
10:36:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:36:17AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:36:22AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:36:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:36:32AM >> THANK YOU.
10:36:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST A MOMENT.
10:36:37AM ITEM NUMBER 54.
10:36:48AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
10:36:49AM AGAIN, LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:36:51AM ITEM 54 IS AB 2-23-23.
10:36:55AM THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND READING AND
10:36:58AM ADOPTION.
10:36:59AM REVISED SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AND CERTIFIED AND
10:37:02AM PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
10:37:03AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:37:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:37:06AM ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOCK?
10:37:07AM YES, SIR.
10:37:10AM >> JOHNSON POPE, 401 EAST JACKSON STREET HERE ON BEHALF OF
10:37:14AM THE APPLICANT.
10:37:15AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:37:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
10:37:18AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
10:37:20AM ITEM NUMBER 54?
10:37:21AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:37:24AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:37:26AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:37:34AM >> READ THE ORDINANCE.
10:37:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
10:37:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE MOTION TO CLOSE?
10:37:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAD A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL
10:37:45AM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:37:46AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:37:48AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:37:48AM AYE.
10:37:49AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, PLEASE READ ITEM 54.
10:37:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE FILE AB 2-23-23 ORDINANCE BEING
10:37:56AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
10:37:59AM APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT S-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES
10:38:02AM SALES RESTAURANT CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES ONLY AND MAKING
10:38:06AM LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEVERAGES REGARDLESS OF ALCOHOLIC
10:38:08AM CONTENT, BEER, WINE AND LIQUOR, ON THAT CERTAIN LOT, PLOT,
10:38:12AM OR TRACT OF LAND LOCATED AT 5232 SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE,
10:38:16AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3,
10:38:19AM PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES IN
10:38:21AM CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, REPEALING AB 1-14-55, PROVIDING AN
10:38:26AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:38:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
10:38:28AM CARLSON.
10:38:28AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
10:38:29AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:38:31AM NOW RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:38:35AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:38:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE JUST NOT USED TO FLYING --
10:38:41AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:38:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S VERY, VERY RARE WE GO THIS QUICKLY.
10:38:45AM WE'LL GO TO 57 AND 58.
10:38:50AM THEY WILL BE QUICK.
10:38:52AM ITEM 57.
10:38:53AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE FOR ITEM 57?
10:38:57AM CITY STAFF IS COMING HERE.
10:39:01AM WE MAY NOT HAVE -- DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT IS
10:39:05AM HERE TO SPEAK ON 57?
10:39:06AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
10:39:08AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:39:09AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:39:11AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:39:11AM AYE.
10:39:13AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM 57?
10:39:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW COME YOU GIVE ME THE LONG ONES?
10:39:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BECAUSE YOU'RE MY FAVORITE.
10:39:20AM YOU'RE MY FAVORITE.
10:39:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM 57, FILE NUMBER E2023-8, ORDINANCE
10:39:26AM BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
10:39:28AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO
10:39:31AM AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, MAKING REVISIONS TO
10:39:34AM CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND
10:39:37AM LAND DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-43, DEFINITIONS,
10:39:40AM AMENDING SECTION 27-149, PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR LAND
10:39:44AM DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS AND TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND
10:39:47AM DEVELOPMENT CODE, AMENDING SECTION 27-156, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE
10:39:51AM OF DISTRICT REGULATIONS, AMENDING SECTION 27-211.6,
10:39:56AM DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR COMMERCIAL, MIXED-USE, OR OTHER
10:39:59AM NONRESIDENTIAL, SH-CG AND SH-CI, DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING
10:40:06AM SECTION 27-211.8, SCHEDULE OF PERMITTED USES BY DISTRICT,
10:40:10AM AMENDING SECTION 27-238, WESTSHORE OVERLAY DISTRICT
10:40:14AM DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, AMENDING SECTION 27-283.12,
10:40:18AM OFF-STREET PARKING SPACE STANDARDS, AMENDING SECTION 27-288,
10:40:22AM SOLID WASTE; AMENDING SECTION 27-290.1, FENCE AND WALL
10:40:26AM REGULATIONS; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF ORDINANCES
10:40:29AM IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN
10:40:33AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:40:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
10:40:35AM MIRANDA.
10:40:36AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
10:40:37AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:40:41AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:40:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:40:46AM ITEM NUMBER 58.
10:40:49AM THIS IS REGARDING THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY.
10:40:52AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE?
10:40:53AM YES, SIR.
10:40:54AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:40:57AM THIS IS THE PRIVATELY INITIATED TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE EAST
10:41:00AM TAMPA OVERLAY.
10:41:02AM THE PRESENTATION WAS PROVIDED AT FIRST READING ON AUGUST
10:41:06AM 31st.
10:41:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE
10:41:08AM GENTLEMAN?
10:41:09AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
10:41:11AM 58?
10:41:12AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:41:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:41:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:41:17AM AYE.
10:41:19AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:41:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:41:22AM READING AND ADOPTION.
10:41:23AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, RELATING TO EAST
10:41:26AM TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT, MAKING CERTAIN REVISIONS TO CITY OF
10:41:29AM TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 27, ZONING AND LAND
10:41:32AM DEVELOPMENT, AMENDING SECTION 27-156, OFFICIAL SCHEDULE OF
10:41:36AM DISTRICT REGULATIONS; REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
10:41:39AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH; PROVIDING FOR
10:41:41AM SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:41:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA
10:41:45AM AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:41:47AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:41:51AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
10:41:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO NOW IS GO TO
10:41:57AM ITEM NUMBER 59.
10:41:58AM IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OBJECTIONS, LET ME KNOW.
10:42:02AM GO TO 59.
10:42:03AM I'D LIKE TO GO TO ITEM 59 SO WE CAN GET IT OUT OF THE WAY
10:42:14AM BECAUSE AT 11:00 WE'RE GOING INTO OUR CLOSED SESSION.
10:42:17AM I WAS ASKED ABOUT COMING BACK AND BREAKING FOR LUNCH AND
10:42:22AM WHATNOT.
10:42:23AM IN ORDER TO KEEP THE MEETING GOING.
10:42:26AM I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST WE TAKE 59.
10:42:29AM GO TO OUR CLOSED SESSION AT 11, WHICH WE GO INTO RECESS FOR
10:42:34AM THAT HERE.
10:42:35AM WE GO TO LUNCH, COME BACK AT 1 -- WE HAVE TO COME BACK HERE
10:42:42AM AND MAKE THE MOTION?
10:42:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDER FLORIDA STATUTE YOU BEGIN A CLOSED
10:42:46AM SESSION BY ANNOUNCING IT AT PUBLIC MEETING, GO INTO CLOSED
10:42:48AM SESSION, THEN YOU RETURN TO THE PUBLIC MEETING TO ANNOUNCE
10:42:51AM THE END OF THE CLOSED SESSION.
10:42:53AM YOU HAVE TO RETURN.
10:42:54AM HAS TO BE A QUORUM.
10:42:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. SHELBY MENTIONED THAT SINCE WE HAVE NOW
10:43:01AM HAD PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 67, WE CAN RECEIVE AND FILE AND
10:43:07AM THEN IF THERE'S SOMEONE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT WHO WISHES
10:43:10AM TO SPEAK ON THE REASONING FOR US ONLY BEING ABLE TO RECEIVE
10:43:17AM AND FILE.
10:43:18AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T SEE MS. WELLS HERE.
10:43:22AM OUT OF COURTESY FOR THOSE PEOPLE WAITING FOR NUMBER 67, JUST
10:43:27AM FOR COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, IN SIRE IN THE BACKUP MATERIAL
10:43:31AM ON THE AGENDA IS THE MEMORANDUM THAT EXPLAINS WHY THAT IS.
10:43:34AM IF COUNCIL WANTS TO WAIT UNTIL MS. WELLS COME BACK, BUT THAT
10:43:38AM MIGHT NOT BE UNTIL LATER, QUITE FRANKLY.
10:43:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL SEE HOW WE GO ON TIME NOW.
10:43:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAKE YOUR MOTION NOW OR THE EXPLANATION?
10:43:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED MS. WELLS TO PUBLICLY SAY WHAT
10:43:51AM CHANGED BETWEEN MY MOTION AND WHY WE CAN'T SPEAK ABOUT IT
10:43:57AM NOW.
10:43:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: UNDERSTOOD.
10:43:59AM THANK YOU.
10:43:59AM WE'LL HOLD THE ITEM.
10:44:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO TO MR. FERNANDEZ AND GIVE
10:44:02AM MS. WELLS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME DOWN AND EXPLAIN IT BEFORE
10:44:06AM WE GO INTO OUR CLOSED SESSION.
10:44:08AM MR. FERNANDEZ, ITEM NUMBER 59.
10:44:13AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: I BELIEVE WE NEED TO GET SWORN IN FOR
10:44:15AM THE 10:30 ITEMS.
10:44:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
10:44:17AM THESE ARE NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:44:19AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:44:20AM DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC
10:44:22AM PRESERVATION MANAGER.
10:44:23AM VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING WITH MY COLLEAGUE,
10:44:26AM ELAINE LUND, FOR THE PROPOSED ADDITION OF THE JOHNSON
10:44:32AM BROTHERS HOUSES AS LOCAL LANDMARKS UNDER THE HISTORIC
10:44:35AM CENTRAL AVENUE AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE SITES MULTIPLE
10:44:40AM PROPERTY LISTING.
10:44:40AM WE HAVE A PowerPoint FOR YOU THAT MS. LUND WILL PRESENT,
10:44:42AM AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE OWNERSHIP
10:44:45AM HERE.
10:44:49AM >>ELAINE LUND: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:44:50AM ELAINE LUND, HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF.
10:44:52AM THIS ITEM IS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THE HISTORICAL LOCAL
10:44:56AM LANDMARK DESIGNATION OF THE JOHNSON BROTHER HOUSES AT 1248
10:45:00AM AND 1250 EAST SCOTT STREET.
10:45:03AM THE OWNER, OPEN SPACE ACQUISITIONS, LLC, SUBMITTED AN
10:45:10AM APPLICATION FOR THE LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION ON
10:45:13AM FEBRUARY 27 OF 2023.
10:45:15AM PROPERTIES ARE CONSIDERED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
10:45:17AM COMMISSION OR THE HPC, AT A PUBLIC HEARING TO DETERMINE
10:45:21AM WHETHER THEY MEET THE CRITERIA FOR LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
10:45:25AM DESIGNATION FOUND IN SECTION 27-257 OF THE CITY'S CODE OF
10:45:29AM ORDINANCES.
10:45:30AM LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION PROVIDES PROTECTION FOR HISTORIC
10:45:36AM LANDMARKS AND DISTRICTS, PROVIDES FOR REVIEW OF ALTERATIONS
10:45:40AM OF THE DESIGNATIONS PROPERTIES AND SAFEGUARDS THE HERITAGE
10:45:43AM OF THE CITY AND PROVIDES CERTAIN ECONOMIC BENEFITS.
10:45:45AM THE JOHNSON BROTHER HOUSES WERE CONSTRUCTED CIRCA 1900.
10:45:52AM THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS 1951 SANBORN COMPANY MAP SHOWING
10:45:56AM THE TWO SMALL WOOD-FRAME HOUSES ON SCOTT STREET.
10:46:01AM IT WAS AROUND THIS TIME THEY WERE FIRST OCCUPIED BY THE
10:46:03AM JOHNSON FAMILY.
10:46:06AM THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS OUR MODERN DAY AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH
10:46:11AM OF THE SAME AREA, AND BOTH IMAGES HAVE THE SUBJECT SITES
10:46:12AM OUTLINED IN RED.
10:46:14AM THE BUILDINGS BEING PROPOSED FOR DESIGNATION AS PART OF THE
10:46:17AM HISTORIC CENTRAL AVENUE AREA AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE SITES
10:46:21AM MULTIPLE PROPERTY LISTING.
10:46:22AM THIS LISTING CURRENTLY INCLUDES FIVE BRICK CHURCHES THAT
10:46:26AM PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE LIVES OF THE COMMUNITY THAT
10:46:28AM ONCE THRIVED IN THIS AREA.
10:46:31AM THE ADDITION OF THE TWO WOOD-FRAME HOUSES WILL ROUND OUT
10:46:34AM THIS GROUP, PRESERVING THOSE EXCELLENT EXAMPLES OF THE
10:46:38AM NEIGHBORHOOD'S DAILY LIFE.
10:46:39AM THESE TWO HOUSES ARE EXAMPLES OF THE WOOD FRAME VERNACULAR
10:46:45AM ARCHITECTURE THAT WAS MUCH LIKE THE MANY OTHER WOOD FRAME
10:46:49AM RESIDENCES THAT WERE BUILT IN THIS AREA THAT WERE
10:46:52AM CONSTRUCTED AS HOUSING.
10:46:55AM THE SURVIVING BUILDINGS ON SCOTT STREET THAT ARE PROPOSED
10:47:01AM FOR DESIGNATION REPRESENT TWO OF OVER 600 SIMILAR RESIDENCES
10:47:05AM THAT FORMERLY COMPRISED THE SCRUB, A BLACK AMERICAN
10:47:09AM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT BEGAN TO TAKE SHAPE IN THE
10:47:11AM LATE 19th CENTURY BETWEEN DOWNTOWN TAMPA AND YBOR CITY.
10:47:16AM THE SCRUB ORIGINALLY SUPPLIED HOUSING FOR NEARBY LUMBER MILL
10:47:21AM WORKERS.
10:47:21AM STATE AND LOCAL LAWS ENSURED THAT RACIAL SEGREGATION WAS
10:47:24AM LEGALLY ENFORCEABLE PREVENTING BLACK PEOPLE FROM ATTENDING
10:47:28AM WHITE CHURCHES AND SCHOOLS, SHOPPING AT BUSINESSES, USING
10:47:30AM THE SAME PUBLIC FACILITIES AND EVEN BEING BURIED IN THE SAME
10:47:34AM CEMETERIES.
10:47:35AM AND THE CONDITIONS IN THE SCRUB WERE CONSIDERED VERY MODEST
10:47:40AM AT BEST.
10:47:41AM THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE ELKS CLUB ON CONSTANCE STREET IN
10:47:49AM THE CENTRAL AVENUE BUSINESS DISTRICT AREA.
10:47:52AM DISTANT FROM DOWNTOWN FRANKLIN STREET COMMERCIAL DISTRICT,
10:47:55AM THE BLACK BUSINESS DISTRICT IN TAMPA GREW ALONG CENTRAL
10:47:58AM AVENUE AND ITS SURROUNDING STREETS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE
10:48:01AM SCRUB NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:48:02AM DURING THE FIRST PART OF THE 20th CENTURY, THE CENTRAL
10:48:07AM AVENUE BUSINESS DISTRICT GREW.
10:48:08AM IT WAS HOME TO MANY WELL-KNOWN TAMPA ESTABLISHMENTS,
10:48:11AM INCLUDING THE GEM AND PALACE DRUGSTORES, CENTRAL LIFE
10:48:15AM INSURANCE COMPANY, THE CENTRAL AVENUE SANDWICH SHOP, THE
10:48:18AM APOLLO BALLROOM AND THE CENTRAL OR PYRAMID HOTEL.
10:48:23AM IN 1952, LOCAL ARCHITECT FRANKLIN ADAMS -- DESIGNED CENTRAL
10:48:31AM PARK VILLAGE, A LOW-RENT HOUSING COMPLEX, INTENDED TO
10:48:35AM TRANSFORM THE SCRUB.
10:48:36AM TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY INTENDED THIS PROJECT TO PROVIDE
10:48:39AM RENT WITHIN THE FINANCIAL REACH OF SOME ALMOST 2,000 BLACK
10:48:43AM AMERICAN FAMILIES FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:48:46AM ONLY A FEW HOUSES NORTH OF SCOTT STREET REMAINED, INCLUDING
10:48:51AM THOSE OCCUPIED BY JOHNNY JOHNSON AND HIS FAMILY.
10:48:54AM LISTED IN THE 1950 CENSUS, JOHNSON WORKED FOR A RAILROAD
10:48:59AM COMPANY AND LIVED WITH HIS WIFE LOUELLA AND TWO LODGERS.
10:49:04AM BETWEEN URBAN RENEWAL AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE INTERSTATE
10:49:07AM HIGHWAY SYSTEM, CENTRAL AVENUE LOST ITS IDENTITY AND THE
10:49:10AM TIGHT-KNIT COMMUNITY EVENTUALLY DISPERSED.
10:49:13AM THE BUSINESS DISTRICT WAS RAZED IN 1974.
10:49:17AM THE 2006 CENTRAL PARK COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA PLAN
10:49:26AM IDENTIFIED MEASURES TO FOSTER PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS
10:49:29AM THAT MAXIMIZED REDEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT IN A MANNER THAT
10:49:32AM RESPECTED THE UNIQUE HISTORY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:49:34AM THIS PLAN INCLUDED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CENTRAL PARK
10:49:36AM VILLAGE HOUSING COMPLEX, THE REDESIGN OF PERRY HARVEY PARK
10:49:41AM AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A MIXED USE COMMUNITY INCLUDING
10:49:44AM AFFORDABLE AND MARKET-RATE APARTMENTS.
10:49:47AM THE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT IS KNOWN AS ENCORE AND INCLUDES 28
10:49:51AM ACRES UNDER DEVELOPMENT BY THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
10:49:54AM THE JOHNSON BROTHERS HOUSES ONCE HOME TO GENERATIONS OF THE
10:50:00AM JOHNSON FAMILY SIT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ENCORE AND NOW
10:50:03AM PROPERTY OF TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY AND ITS SUBSIDIARY, OPEN
10:50:07AM SPACE ACQUISITIONS.
10:50:08AM AS STATED PREVIOUSLY, THE APPLICATION DATE WAS FEBRUARY 27
10:50:14AM OF THIS YEAR AND THE HPC MET AT A PUBLIC HEARING AND MADE A
10:50:19AM RECOMMENDATION ON MAY 16 THIS YEAR TO RECOMMEND THESE
10:50:24AM PROPERTIES TO YOU FOR LOCAL LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
10:50:27AM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THESE APPLICATIONS TO BE
10:50:30AM CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
10:50:33AM PUBLIC NOTICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE OWNER, TO NEARBY
10:50:38AM PROPERTY OWNERS AND REGISTERED ORGANIZATIONS.
10:50:39AM THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT TAMPA CITY COUNCIL APPROVE
10:50:45AM THE DESIGNATION OF THE JOHNSON BROTHER HOUSES AT 1248 AND
10:50:49AM 1250 EAST SCOTT STREET AS LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS AND
10:50:54AM ADDITIONS TO THE HISTORIC CENTRAL AVENUE AREA AFRICAN
10:50:56AM AMERICAN HERITAGE SITES MULTIPLE PROPERTY LISTING BASED ON
10:51:00AM THE CRITERIA FOUND IN SECTION 27-257.
10:51:03AM THE BUILDINGS WERE CONSTRUCTED AND ACHIEVED SIGNIFICANCE
10:51:07AM DURING THE PERIOD OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE, WHICH IS
10:51:10AM GENERALLY TAKEN TO BE AT LEAST 50 YEARS AGO.
10:51:13AM THESE HISTORIC RESOURCES ARE SIGNIFICANT IN THE AREAS OF
10:51:16AM COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, ETHNIC HISTORY, AND
10:51:20AM ARCHITECTURE.
10:51:21AM ADDITIONALLY, AN ITEM THUS CONSIDERED FOR DESIGNATION.
10:51:25AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY FOR COMING
10:51:27AM FORWARD TO REQUEST THE DESIGNATION AND WORKING WITH US
10:51:30AM THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
10:51:30AM AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
10:51:37AM AT THIS TIME --
10:51:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR THIS WONDERFUL
10:51:45AM PRESENTATION.
10:51:45AM I THINK IT'S SHAMEFUL WHAT WAS DONE TO THAT ENTIRE
10:51:48AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:51:49AM I DON'T BLAME ANYBODY HERE BECAUSE WE WEREN'T HERE, BECAUSE
10:51:52AM THIS IS ALREADY -- I THINK THE LAST BUSINESS CLOSED IN 1974.
10:51:55AM AND IF YOU CAN IMAGINE, URBAN RENEWAL WAS A VERY AGGRESSIVE
10:52:00AM PROGRAM, IF YOU LOOK AT IT HISTORICALLY, ESPECIALLY IN THE
10:52:03AM CITY OF TAMPA, IT WAS MORE AGGRESSIVE THAN MOST, AND YBOR
10:52:06AM CITY NEARBY WAS AFFECTED TREMENDOUSLY BY URBAN RENEWAL, BUT
10:52:12AM THEY DIDN'T LEVEL AND DEMOLISH 7th AVENUE.
10:52:15AM CENTRAL AVENUE WAS GONE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FEW
10:52:17AM BUILDINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED, A FEW CHURCHES AND THESE
10:52:20AM HOUSES.
10:52:22AM I KNOW SOME PEOPLE, BECAUSE I TALKED TO SO MANY PEOPLE.
10:52:24AM HAD A CONVERSATION A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, SPOKE UNTIL I
10:52:27AM COULDN'T TALK ANYMORE ABOUT THE HISTORY.
10:52:30AM AND THIS IS SOMEONE WHO WAS THERE.
10:52:32AM WHY IT HAPPENED.
10:52:33AM ANOTHER PERSON SAID, WELL, THE INTERSTATE WAS COMING
10:52:35AM THROUGH.
10:52:36AM THE INTERSTATE IS NORTH.
10:52:37AM THIS AREA WHERE PERRY HARVEY PARK AND ALL THE, YOU KNOW, IT
10:52:40AM WAS ALL WIPED OUT.
10:52:43AM AND IT'S SAD BECAUSE WE LOST ENCYCLOPEDIAS OF HISTORY.
10:52:48AM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO DESCRIBE IT.
10:52:49AM IT'S LIKE LEVELING YBOR CITY AND GOING, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY
10:52:54AM LEFT THE ITALIAN CLUB AND THE COLUMBIA, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE
10:52:57AM IS GONE.
10:52:58AM CAN'T GO BACK IN TIME, NONE OF US CAN.
10:53:01AM WE HAVE THESE TWO HOUSES BECAUSE THE SCRUB IS GONE.
10:53:03AM I SPOKE TO ONE GENTLEMAN YEARS AGO WHO REMEMBERS THE
10:53:07AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CONDITION OF THE HOUSES AND EVERYTHING
10:53:09AM AND HE TOLD ME HIS STORY.
10:53:10AM AT LEAST WE HAVE SOMETHING PHYSICAL THAT WE CAN SHOW PEOPLE,
10:53:15AM HEY, HISTORIC MARKER TELLING THE STORY, BUT THESE HOUSES ARE
10:53:18AM PROTECTED BECAUSE IT IS THE VERY LAST OR SOME OF THE LAST,
10:53:21AM BECAUSE HE SAID THERE ARE A FEW HOUSES NORTH OF SCOTT
10:53:24AM STREET, THAT REMAIN.
10:53:25AM I'M GLAD THIS IS BEING BROUGHT BEFORE US.
10:53:27AM I WISH I WAS HERE 50 YEARS AGO.
10:53:30AM I WASN'T BORN 50 YEARS AGO.
10:53:32AM WE COULD HAVE THOUGHT TO PROTECT MORE OF THESE STRUCTURES,
10:53:35AM BUT AT LEAST WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN NOW AND SOON WE'LL HAVE
10:53:39AM THE DISCUSSION ON THE JACKSON HOUSE WHERE THERE'S SOME
10:53:43AM POSITIVE NEWS THERE.
10:53:44AM AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:53:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:53:49AM THIS HAPPENS TO BE IN DISTRICT 5.
10:53:51AM JUST A QUICK LITTLE STORY.
10:53:53AM WHEN MY MOTHER MOVED IN WITH ME FIVE YEARS AGO, SHE HAD A
10:53:57AM METAL BOX WITH PAPER WORK IN IT.
10:53:59AM IT WAS MY FATHER'S MILITARY PAPERS.
10:54:01AM VERY, VERY THIN PIECE OF PAPER.
10:54:03AM I DISCOVERED THINGS ABOUT HIM I DIDN'T KNOW.
10:54:06AM HE LIVED ON THE CORNER OF SCOTT AND GOVERNOR STREET IN THE
10:54:12AM SCRUB BEFORE HE WENT TO THE KOREAN WAR.
10:54:13AM I GOT IN MY CAR AND DROVE TO THIS AREA, PAST THE JOHNSON
10:54:19AM HOUSES AND JUST SAT IN MY CAR AND COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT HE
10:54:23AM LIVED IN THE SCRUBS BECAUSE I DID NOT KNOW THAT PART OF HIS
10:54:25AM LIFE.
10:54:26AM THEN HE MOVED TO THE BOTTOM WHEN HE GOT BACK WHICH IS WHERE
10:54:29AM ARMATURE WORKS IS.
10:54:30AM THE EMOTIONAL PIECE FOR ME IS THAT THERE ARE SOME AMAZING
10:54:33AM SPACES IN TAMPA WHERE BLACK PEOPLE LIVED THAT HAVE BEEN
10:54:37AM CLEARLY GENTRIFIED, BUT IT HAPPENED BECAUSE OF RACISM.
10:54:42AM CITY GOVERNMENT RACISM AND NATIONAL GOVERNMENT RACISM WIPED
10:54:47AM OUT A SIGNIFICANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
10:54:49AM AND I ACTUALLY PROBABLY DRIVE IN THE SCRUBS ALMOST EVERY
10:54:55AM SINGLE DAY TO PAY HOMAGE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS THERE.
10:54:59AM WHEN I WALK INTO ST. JAMES EPISCOPAL CHURCH FOR THE EVENTS
10:55:03AM NOW HELD BY OUR TAMPA HISTORY CENTER, TRYING TO KEEP A PIECE
10:55:07AM OF THE SCRUB ALIVE FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS OF TAMPA, I
10:55:12AM JUST THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THIS HISTORY THAT WAS
10:55:16AM PRESENTED TODAY IS ACTUALLY ACCURATE.
10:55:19AM BUT THE MISSING PIECE IS THAT RACISM ON A NATIONAL LEVEL AND
10:55:24AM A LOCAL LEVEL, AND IF YOU GO BACK AND READ THE PAPERS, THERE
10:55:29AM WAS A MAYOR WHO CALLED THIS AREA DEPLORABLE.
10:55:33AM IT WAS A COMMUNITY THAT WAS THRIVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:55:37AM SENATOR ARTHENIA JOYNER, HER FATHER WAS THE LAST BUSINESS TO
10:55:42AM HOLD OUT IN 1974, CLOSING THE JOYNER COTTON CLUB.
10:55:47AM I CAN ONLY IMAGINE, I ENVISION EVERY TIME I GO ON 7th
10:55:53AM AVENUE, I GET ANGRY THAT CENTRAL AVENUE IS NO LONGER HERE.
10:56:01AM IT IS ONE OF THE UNFAIR THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN OUR
10:56:04AM COMMUNITY.
10:56:04AM SO MAINTAIN THESE TWO STRUCTURES IN A PRESERVATION KIND OF
10:56:08AM WAY IS NOT ONLY THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY
10:56:11AM LONG OVERDUE.
10:56:12AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
10:56:13AM I WILL BE GLAD TO READ THIS ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING.
10:56:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: SOME FOLKS HAVE HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE.
10:56:21AM IF YOU GO TO WILLIAMSBURG, ONLY 10% OF WILLIAMSBURG IS
10:56:25AM ORIGINAL.
10:56:25AM THE REST OF IT WAS REBUILT BASED ON THE DRAWINGS AND PICTURE
10:56:28AM DRAWINGS THAT THEY HAD.
10:56:30AM OLD TOWN WARSAW WAS REBUILT AFTER WORLD WAR II BASED ON
10:56:35AM PAINTINGS FROM THE 1500S OR 1700S.
10:56:38AM CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH.
10:56:39AM WE HAVE PICTURES OF WHAT CENTRAL AVENUE LOOKED LIKE.
10:56:41AM I WAS HOPING THAT THE JACKSON HOUSE RENOVATION TEN YEARS AGO
10:56:43AM WOULD BE THE START OF TRYING TO REBUILD SOME OF THE
10:56:45AM BUILDINGS THAT WERE ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
10:56:47AM UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S TAKEN TEN YEARS.
10:56:50AM ONCE THAT'S DONE, I THINK WE HAVE TO IN EARNEST LOOK AT NOT
10:56:54AM JUST PROTECTING THE OLDER BUILDINGS BUT REBUILDING SOME OF
10:56:57AM THEM THAT WERE TORN DOWN BECAUSE BUILDING ON WHAT MY
10:57:02AM COLLEAGUE SAID, THIS WAS A HUGE MISTAKE BY THE CITY AND WE
10:57:05AM NEED TO CORRECT IT AND WE NEED TO TELL THE STORY OF THE
10:57:07AM HISTORY OF TAMPA.
10:57:08AM THANK YOU.
10:57:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:57:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:57:12AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, THANK YOU FOR THE WORDS.
10:57:15AM I'M A BIG FAN OF THE EQUAL JUSTICE INITIATIVE.
10:57:17AM BRIAN STEPHENSON IN MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA, AND THEY ALWAYS SAY
10:57:21AM THAT TO OVERCOME INEQUALITY WE HAVE TO CONFRONT OUR HISTORY.
10:57:25AM IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO CALL IT AS IT IS AND AS IT
10:57:28AM WAS.
10:57:28AM WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, HEAR A LOT OF JOKES WHERE PEOPLE
10:57:31AM SAY, OH, PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE INTERSTATE IS RACIST.
10:57:34AM WELL, THE CONSTRUCTION OF IT WAS BASED ON, LIKE YOU SAID,
10:57:37AM RACISM.
10:57:38AM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY THAT AS A JOKE.
10:57:40AM THE INTERSTATE IS RACIST.
10:57:41AM NO, THE WAY IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, IT WAS BASED UPON RACISM,
10:57:45AM RACIAL HATRED, BIAS, PREJUDICE, ET CETERA.
10:57:49AM SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR THOSE WORDS.
10:57:50AM I KNOW -- I REMEMBER ONCE TRYING TO FIND THE HOUSE SAUNDERS,
10:57:56AM THE GREAT NAACP LEADER OF FLORIDA AND FROM TAMPA LIVED,
10:58:00AM ROBERTS CITY AND PAVED OVER.
10:58:02AM NO LONGER THERE.
10:58:04AM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR WORDS AND AGAIN TO OVERCOME
10:58:09AM INEQUALITY WE HAVE TO CONFRONT OUR HISTORY.
10:58:11AM I AGREE WITH YOUR WORDS.
10:58:12AM THANK YOU.
10:58:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:58:13AM I'VE BEEN FASCINATED WITH THIS AREA AND MENTIONED IT MANY
10:58:16AM TIMES ON THE DAIS FOR 20 YEARS, SINCE I DISCOVERED WHAT
10:58:20AM CENTRAL AVENUE WAS.
10:58:21AM IF YOU GO ON YouTube, THERE IS A FILM CALLED BLACK LIKE ME
10:58:24AM BASED ON THE BOOK.
10:58:25AM YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S CALLED THAT.
10:58:27AM BUT THERE IS A VERY BRIEF CLIP WHERE THE GENTLEMAN, THE MAIN
10:58:32AM ACTOR GETS OFF A BUS ON CENTRAL AVENUE AND FOR TEN SECONDS,
10:58:36AM AND IT WAS LIKE A BUSTLING 7th AVENUE IN YBOR CITY BECAUSE
10:58:40AM I'VE LOOKED.
10:58:42AM IT'S VERY LIMITED, AND I'LL STOP AT THIS AND GO TO PUBLIC
10:58:46AM COMMENT.
10:58:46AM YESTERDAY I WAS DRIVING DOWN 22nd STREET SOUTH OF MARTIN
10:58:49AM LUTHER KING, AND THERE ARE SO MANY BUILDINGS, SOME ARE OWNED
10:58:52AM BY THE CRA.
10:58:53AM SO MANY BUILDINGS, AND YOU CAN SEE COMMERCIAL.
10:58:56AM I'M THINKING TO MYSELF, IF WE CAN'T REBUILD CENTRAL AVENUE,
10:59:00AM WE CAN CREATE A THRIVING BLACK BUSINESS DISTRICT AND THAT
10:59:03AM BEING A MAIN CORRIDOR GOING THROUGH BELMONT HEIGHTS, THE
10:59:07AM BUILDINGS ARE THERE.
10:59:09AM IT'S PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, CRA.
10:59:11AM I WAS WITH MR. McCRAY, THE CRA HAS THIS AND THERE'S SO
10:59:15AM MUCH OPPORTUNITY.
10:59:17AM I SEE HOW ARMATURE WORKS WAS REVITALIZED, HOW YBOR CITY HAS
10:59:22AM COME BACK, HOW WE'RE BUILDING WATERS STREET.
10:59:26AM THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT THERE.
10:59:28AM IF WE CAN'T REBUILD CENTRAL AVENUE, WE CAN CREATE A HUB
10:59:31AM RIGHT THERE.
10:59:32AM JUST THROWING THAT OUT INTO THE UNIVERSE SINCE WE HAVE TO
10:59:35AM SAY IT PUBLICLY.
10:59:37AM YES, SIR.
10:59:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOU HIT ON IT.
10:59:39AM I'M ABOUT PRESERVING OUR PAST AS WELL.
10:59:41AM WE BALANCE THESE NEEDS AS THE CITY OF TAMPA GROWS.
10:59:45AM WHEN WE HAVE THESE OPPORTUNITIES, I THINK WE HAVE TO SEIZE
10:59:48AM THEM.
10:59:49AM GOING ON WHAT YOU JUST SAID, KIND OF HARKENING BACK TO WHAT
10:59:52AM I HEARD PRIOR TO ME SERVING ON COUNCIL, COUNCILMAN CARLSON
10:59:56AM SAID OVER YEARS ABOUT CREATING THE THRIVING SMALL
10:59:58AM COMMERCIAL, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.
11:00:00AM AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE KEY AND SOME OF OUR GENTRIFICATION
11:00:07AM ISSUES, CREATE SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS,
11:00:10AM REGENERATE THEM AND REVIVE THEM THROUGHOUT OUR COMMUNITY,
11:00:14AM WITHIN OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG
11:00:17AM WAY AT EITHER RE-CREATING, AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, GOING
11:00:21AM BACK TO SOME OF THE ORIGINAL PLANS.
11:00:23AM WE HAVE GREAT AREAS IN WEST TAMPA.
11:00:25AM CREATE AREAS IN EAST TAMPA AND OTHERS.
11:00:27AM THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY
11:00:30AM GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE LOOKING AT FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND
11:00:33AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:00:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:34AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
11:00:35AM MA'AM, I KNOW YOU HAD SPOKEN EARLIER AND I APOLOGIZE FOR
11:00:40AM INTERRUPTING.
11:00:41AM YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NOW DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:00:43AM >> THANK YOU.
11:00:43AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:00:45AM AUDREY TORANZO, STUDENT OF PUBLIC POLICY ADMINISTRATION AT
11:00:49AM ST. PETE COLLEGE, BORN AND RAISED IN WEST TAMPA.
11:00:52AM MY ADDRESS RIGHT NOW IS 4513 DEVONSHIRE ROAD IN TAMPA.
11:00:55AM I'M CURRENTLY WORKING ON A CASE STUDY INVOLVING TODAY'S
11:00:58AM TOPIC REGARDING THE DESIGNATION OF JOHNSON HOUSES AS
11:01:01AM HISTORICAL LANDMARK, WHICH ARE LOCATED A THE 1248 EAST SCOTT
11:01:05AM STREET AND 1250 EAST SCOTT STREET, TAMPA.
11:01:08AM I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME
11:01:10AM TO SPEAK ON THE SUBJECT.
11:01:12AM ALTHOUGH I AM NOT A RESIDENT OF THE HISTORICAL CENTRAL
11:01:15AM AVENUE AREA, AS A NATIVE AND CURRENT RESIDENT OF TAMPA I
11:01:18AM BELIEVE WE SHOULD PRESERVE THE JOHNSON HOUSES.
11:01:20AM IN MY RESEARCH I FOUND THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HISTORIC
11:01:22AM PRESERVATION COMMISSION RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:01:25AM COUNCIL THAT THE JOHNSON HOUSES BE DESIGNATED AS HISTORICAL
11:01:28AM LANDMARKS REPRESENTING THE AREA KNOWN AS THE SCRUB.
11:01:31AM IT IS A VITAL HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE TO THE AFRICAN AMERICAN
11:01:36AM COMMUNITY AND TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AS WELL.
11:01:40AM ONE OF THE GOALS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
11:01:43AM IS, AND I QUOTE, RETAIN VALUABLE REMINDERS OF OUR PAST WHILE
11:01:48AM DEVELOPING VALUED HISTORIC RESOURCES FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS,
11:01:50AM END QUOTE.
11:01:51AM THE JOHNSON HOUSES FIT PERFECTLY IN THE DESCRIPTION.
11:01:53AM THESE ARE THE LAST REMAINING BUILDINGS THAT WERE NOT RAZED
11:01:57AM DUE TO GENTRIFICATION AND RACISM PRIMARILY BETWEEN THE
11:01:59AM '50s AND '70s WITH THE CONSTRUCTION OF I-4 AND I-275
11:02:03AM CONTRIBUTING TO THIS AS WELL.
11:02:04AM WHETHER THEY ARE PRESERVED AND USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES
11:02:07AM OR DESIGNATED FOR USE AS A MUSEUM, IT WOULD BE OF GREAT
11:02:10AM HISTORICAL BENEFIT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA TO KEEP SUCH HISTORY
11:02:15AM ALIVE, REMEMBER THE SUFFERING AND PLIGHT OF A COMMUNITY AS
11:02:18AM WELL AS THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
11:02:19AM TAMPA HAS A RICH HISTORY AS WELL AS A TRAGIC ONE.
11:02:22AM REMEMBERING NOT ONLY THE GOOD BUT THE BAD HELPS ONE NOT
11:02:24AM REPEAT THE SAME ERRORS AND ATROCITIES THAT CITIES ALL OVER
11:02:27AM THE U.S. HAVE BEEN A PART OF.
11:02:29AM SINCE THE JOHNSON HOUSES MEET THE CRITERIA, I DON'T SEE ANY
11:02:33AM ISSUES DESIGNATING THESE HOMES AS HISTORICAL LANDMARKS, ONLY
11:02:36AM THAT I HOPE THAT THEY ARE RESTORED IN A MANNER THAT
11:02:39AM PRESERVES THE HERITAGE OF THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN
11:02:41AM THE AREA.
11:02:43AM I'M PROUD TO CALL EACH AND EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY OF
11:02:45AM TAMPA MY HOME.
11:02:46AM AS SUCH, THE JOHNSON HOMES ARE PART OF ME AND MY CITY'S
11:02:50AM HERITAGE.
11:02:50AM ALL I WOULD ASK IS TO PLEASE REMEMBER TO LISTEN TO THE
11:02:53AM COMMUNITY WHEN MAKING YOUR DECISIONS.
11:02:55AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ELAINE LUND WHO I JUST SPOKE TO
11:02:58AM YESTERDAY.
11:02:59AM SHE GAVE ME SOME GOOD POINTS AND ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS.
11:03:03AM AND I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
11:03:05AM SPEAK.
11:03:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:03:07AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:03:09AM BEFORE I CLOSE, THANK YOU, MR. FERNANDEZ.
11:03:11AM MS. LUND.
11:03:12AM I THINK I SEE MS. FERRELL IN THE BACK.
11:03:15AM HISTORIC PRESERVATION CHAMPIONS AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT
11:03:17AM YOU DO.
11:03:18AM THIS IS VERY SIGNIFICANT AND IMPORTANT.
11:03:19AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:03:20AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:03:22AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:03:24AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:03:25AM AYE.
11:03:26AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, READ ITEM 59.
11:03:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, WITH GREAT JOY.
11:03:30AM I MOVE FILE NUMBER HPC 2023-03 AND HPC 2023-04.
11:03:39AM AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
11:03:41AM CONSIDERATION.
11:03:41AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AMENDING THE
11:03:45AM HISTORIC CENTRAL AVENUE AREA AFRICAN AMERICAN HERITAGE SITES
11:03:49AM MULTIPLE PROPERTIES GROUP TO INCLUDE THE JOHNSON BROTHERS
11:03:53AM HOUSES LOCATED AT 1248 EAST SCOTT STREET AND 1250 EAST SCOTT
11:03:58AM STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
11:04:01AM SECTION 3 HEREOF, AS LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARKS; PROVIDING FOR
11:04:06AM REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR
11:04:10AM SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:04:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
11:04:13AM HENDERSON.
11:04:13AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:04:14AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:04:15AM AYE.
11:04:16AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:04:16AM YOU WANT A ROLL CALL.
11:04:19AM LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:04:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:04:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ABSOLUTELY.
11:04:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:04:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:04:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:04:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:04:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:04:28AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON
11:04:31AM OCTOBER 19, 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
11:04:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I ANNOUNCE THE CLOSED SESSION, AT
11:04:36AM THIS TIME, WE HAVE ITEM 67.
11:04:41AM MS. WELLS, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN THAT BEFORE WE MOVE TO
11:04:45AM RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:04:52AM >>CATE WELLS: GOOD MORNING.
11:04:53AM CATE WELLS FOR THE RECORD.
11:04:54AM I APOLOGIZE FOR STEPPING OUT EARLIER.
11:04:56AM I DIDN'T REALIZE YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE THAT ITEM OUT OF
11:04:58AM ORDER.
11:04:59AM AS I EXPLAINED IN THE MEMORANDUM FILED IN SIRE, GIVEN THAT
11:05:04AM AN APPLICATION FOR A DESIGN EXCEPTION 1 HAS BEEN FILED WITH
11:05:07AM THE CITY, AND THE INTEREST YOU ALREADY HEARD THROUGH PUBLIC
11:05:11AM COMMENT, I THINK REGARDLESS OF STAFF'S DECISION ON THAT
11:05:15AM APPLICATION, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT A PETITION FOR REVIEW
11:05:20AM WOULD BE FILED WITH THIS CITY COUNCIL.
11:05:23AM IT WOULD BE HEARD DURING A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING.
11:05:26AM FOR THAT REASON I'M RECOMMENDING THAT IT NOT BE DISCUSSED IN
11:05:29AM PUBLIC.
11:05:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FAIR ENOUGH.
11:05:30AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:05:31AM YES, MA'AM.
11:05:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT WAS NOT THE
11:05:35AM CASE WHEN I MADE THIS MOTION, THAT THAT SU 1 PERMIT HAD NOT
11:05:40AM BEEN FILED.
11:05:41AM SO THAT IS THE REASON THAT WE CANNOT HEAR THIS.
11:05:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
11:05:45AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:05:47AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:05:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:05:50AM >> AYE.
11:05:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THIS TIME, MR. SHELBY, I'M GOING TO
11:05:53AM ANNOUNCE THE CLOSED SESSION.
11:05:55AM I'M GOING TO SAY HERE, AT THIS TIME, AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH
11:05:58AM FLORIDA STATUTE SECTION 286.0118, WE WILL PROCEED TO A
11:06:03AM CLOSED ATTORNEY-CLIENT SESSION TO DISCUSS SETTLEMENT
11:06:06AM NEGOTIATIONS IN THE CASE OF JEFFREY BURGER VERSUS CITY OF
11:06:09AM TAMPA, EEOC NUMBER 511-2018-01751.
11:06:17AM THIS CLOSED SESSION IS ESTIMATED TO LAST APPROXIMATELY
11:06:20AM 45 MINUTES AND WILL BE RECORDED BY A CERTIFIED COURT
11:06:23AM REPORTER.
11:06:24AM THE NAMES OF THE PERSONS ATTENDING THE CLOSED SESSION ARE AS
11:06:27AM FOLLOWS:
11:06:28AM COUNCIL MEMBER BILL CARLSON.
11:06:30AM COUNCIL MEMBER ALAN CLENDENIN.
11:06:32AM COUNCIL MEMBER GWEN HENDERSON.
11:06:33AM COUNCIL MEMBER LYNN HURTAK.
11:06:35AM COUNCIL MEMBER GUIDO MANISCALCO.
11:06:37AM COUNCIL MEMBER CHARLIE MIRANDA.
11:06:39AM COUNCIL MEMBER LUIS VIERA.
11:06:41AM CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY MARTIN SHELBY.
11:06:42AM CITY ATTORNEY ANDREA ZELMAN.
11:06:44AM ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY REBECCA JOHNS.
11:06:46AM HUMAN RESOURCES AND TALENT DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR KELLY
11:06:49AM AUSTIN.
11:06:50AM AND CERTIFIED COURT REPORTER DEBBIE GUESS FROM REPORTERS ON
11:06:54AM MADISON.
11:06:54AM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE CLOSED ATTORNEY-CLIENT SESSION,
11:06:57AM THIS MEETING WILL BE REOPENED, AND I WILL ANNOUNCE THE
11:07:02AM TERMINATION OF THE SESSION.
11:07:03AM A TRANSCRIPT OF THE CLOSED ATTORNEY CLIENT SESSION SHALL BE
11:07:05AM MADE PART OF THE PUBLIC RECORD UPON CONCLUSION OF THE BURGER
11:07:08AM CASE.
11:07:08AM AT THIS TIME, WE WILL BE -- DO WE SAY RECESS --
11:07:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY -- MADAM CLERK, WHAT WOULD YOU
11:07:18AM THINK AT THIS POINT?
11:07:19AM ADJOURN FOR PURPOSES OF THE CLOSED SESSION.
11:07:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THIS TIME WE'LL BE ADJOURNED FOR
11:07:25AM PURPOSES OF THE CLOSED SESSION AND WILL RECONVENE IN THIS
11:07:28AM ROOM TO CONTINUE THE MEETING.
11:07:29AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
11:39:27AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
11:40:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY
11:40:30AM COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER.
11:40:31AM IF WE CAN HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
11:40:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
11:40:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
11:40:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
11:40:36AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
11:40:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
11:40:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
11:40:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
11:40:40AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
11:40:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:40:42AM AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE CLOSED
11:40:44AM SESSION IN THE CASE OF JEFFREY BURGER VERSUS CITY OF TAMPA
11:40:47AM EOC 511-2018-01751 HAS CONCLUDED.
11:40:54AM WE ARE NOW BACK IN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
11:40:57AM AT THIS TIME, WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, I WOULD LIKE TO RECESS
11:41:00AM UNTIL 1:00 FOR LUNCH.
11:41:02AM >> SO MOVED.
11:41:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
11:41:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:41:05AM WE'RE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:00.
11:41:06AM THANK YOU.
11:41:07AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
11:41:07AM [LUNCH RECESS]
1:01:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO
1:04:30PM ORDER.
1:04:30PM IF WE COULD HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
1:04:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
1:04:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
1:04:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
1:04:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
1:04:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
1:04:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
1:04:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
1:04:38PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:04:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ITEM 55.
1:04:45PM MR. SAMONS.
1:04:49PM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
1:04:53PM I DID LEAVE OUT, I APOLOGIZE, AN AERIAL.
1:04:58PM I'LL LEAVE IT AFTER THE FACT.
1:05:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
1:05:28PM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
1:05:30PM PRESENTING FILE VAC-22-05.
1:05:33PM THE APPLICANT IS DALLAS EVANS.
1:05:36PM PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 3215 NORTH 40th STREET.
1:05:40PM THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF
1:05:45PM 23rd AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND AN ALLEYWAY NORTH OF 21st
1:05:49PM AVENUE, SOUTH OF MELBURNE BOULEVARD, EAST OF 40th STREET
1:05:52PM AND WEST OF 44th STREET.
1:05:55PM SOME BACKGROUND.
1:06:01PM AROUND THE AREA, THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED DECEMBER 14,
1:06:06PM 2021.
1:06:06PM THE APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON THE EAST SIDE OF 23rd
1:06:09PM AVENUE AND AN ALLEY THAT IS REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.
1:06:12PM THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS TO RESOLVE
1:06:15PM CONFLICT WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
1:06:17PM 23rd AVENUE AND THE ALLEY WAS CREATED BY A SUBDIVISION
1:06:21PM PLAT.
1:06:21PM A PORTION OF THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST WAS ACQUIRED BY
1:06:24PM THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR A PROPOSED ROUNDABOUT.
1:06:28PM AND THIS IS IN APPROXIMATELY 1967.
1:06:31PM AND THAT ROUNDABOUT AREA IS APPROXIMATELY 1900 SQUARE FEET.
1:06:35PM THE EXISTING ALLEY AND 23rd AVENUE REQUEST TO BE VACATED
1:06:40PM IS APPROXIMATELY 19,513 SQUARE FEET.
1:06:44PM AS YOU'LL SEE, THIS IS THE AERIAL.
1:06:50PM THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS IN YELLOW.
1:06:54PM THE ALLEY HERE, A PORTION OF 23rd HERE, AND THE ACQUIRED
1:07:00PM ROUNDABOUT FROM 1967 HERE.
1:07:02PM I DO WANT TO NOTE THAT TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPOSED
1:07:07PM VACATING REQUEST, THIS PORTION OF 23rd HAS ALSO BEEN
1:07:11PM VACATED IN THE PAST AND ALSO A PORTION OF THE APPLICANT'S
1:07:15PM PROPERTY IN THE PAST WAS 23rd AVENUE, AND IT WAS
1:07:18PM PREVIOUSLY VACATED AS WELL.
1:07:19PM I'LL SHOW THAT AGAIN IN THE INTERNAL ATLAS SHEET THAT WE
1:07:25PM KEEP AND FILE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
1:07:29PM AGAIN, APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER'S PROPERTY
1:07:34PM IN RED AND THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN YELLOW.
1:07:39PM AGAIN, 23rd AVENUE, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, AND THIS SMALL
1:07:44PM PORTION OF THE ROUNDABOUT THAT WAS ACQUIRED IN 1967 AND
1:07:47PM AGAIN THE ALLEY HERE.
1:07:48PM AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE HATCHED AREAS ON THE ATLAS IS PREVIOUS
1:07:54PM VACATINGS IN THE PAST.
1:07:56PM AND THIS IS ALL CHANGED.
1:07:59PM THIS AREA HAS CHANGED A LOT BECAUSE OF DEVELOPMENT
1:08:02PM OBVIOUSLY.
1:08:02PM THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION PLAT OF HIGHLAND PINES.
1:08:15PM AGAIN, THE PROPOSED VACATING AREA IS APPROXIMATELY HERE IN
1:08:18PM BLOCK 23.
1:08:20PM IT CONSISTS OF THIS ALLEY RUNNING NORTH AND SOUTH HERE IN
1:08:23PM THIS BLOCK AND IT IS WEST OF THE ALLEY IN BLOCK 23.
1:08:29PM THE PORTION, SMALL PORTION OF 23rd IS HERE APPROXIMATELY.
1:08:33PM AGAIN, I BROUGHT THIS JUST FOR REFERENCE.
1:08:44PM THIS IS NOT THE ACTUAL SUBDIVISION PLAT THAT WAS CREATED,
1:08:47PM BUT THIS WAS HIGHLAND PINES REVISED PLAT TO THE EAST OF THE
1:08:51PM ALLEY THAT'S REQUESTED TO BE VACATED HERE.
1:08:56PM 23rd HERE AND MELBURNE BOULEVARD HERE.
1:08:59PM AGAIN, THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE VACATING.
1:09:04PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST, IMAGE LOOKING EAST FROM 40th STREET.
1:09:13PM AGAIN, IT'S HEAVILY WOODED AREA AND HAS BEEN FOR QUITE SOME
1:09:17PM TIME.
1:09:18PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH FROM EAST 21st AVENUE AT THE ALLEY
1:09:27PM IN QUESTION.
1:09:30PM AND THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHWEST FROM U.S. HIGHWAY 41.
1:09:40PM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
1:09:45PM EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED BY WASTEWATER.
1:09:47PM SPECIAL CONDITIONS CONSIDERED NATURAL RESOURCES THEY MUST
1:09:51PM COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 REGARDING TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE
1:09:55PM DESIGN FOR IMPROVEMENTS.
1:09:57PM PLACE ADJACENT TO TREES IN ANY VACATED AREAS.
1:10:00PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
1:10:02PM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
1:10:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
1:10:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE LAND USE IN THE ADJACENT
1:10:07PM PROPERTY THAT PROPERTY AND THEN THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES?
1:10:09PM WHAT IS THE CURRENT LAND USE?
1:10:12PM >>ROSS SAMONS: JUST THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T HAVE THAT
1:10:15PM WITH ME, BUT THE LAND USE SEEMS LIKE IT'S SINGLE-FAMILY
1:10:18PM RESIDENTIAL TO THE EAST AND IT'S DEFINITELY CHANGED SINCE
1:10:22PM THEN TO THE WEST OF THE ALLEY IN THE PORTION OF THEIR
1:10:26PM PROPERTY AND SOUTH OF THEIR PROPERTY TO 21st.
1:10:29PM I COULDN'T REALLY --
1:10:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BY USE OR BY CODE THE CHANGE?
1:10:35PM >>ROSS SAMONS: I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT CURRENTLY.
1:10:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
1:10:40PM ANYBODY ELSE?
1:10:40PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:10:43PM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE FOR THIS?
1:10:45PM YES, SIR.
1:10:48PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:10:49PM DALLAS EVANS, 3810 NORTHDALE BOULEVARD IN TAMPA.
1:10:54PM LANDIS EVANS AND PARTNERS ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
1:10:58PM I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD.
1:11:00PM STAFF DID A WONDERFUL JOB OF PRESENTING.
1:11:02PM I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND THE USE EITHER.
1:11:04PM IT IS A SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED SUBDIVISION TO THE EAST AND
1:11:07PM COMMERCIAL LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES ALONG THE WEST SIDE.
1:11:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
1:11:12PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
1:11:13PM NO.
1:11:14PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON
1:11:16PM THIS ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 55?
1:11:18PM I SEE NO ONE AND THERE'S NOBODY REGISTERED.
1:11:22PM ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL?
1:11:24PM IF NOT, MAY I ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE.
1:11:26PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
1:11:28PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
1:11:29PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
1:11:31PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:11:32PM AYE.
1:11:32PM I FORGOT WHERE I LEFT OFF.
1:11:37PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS?
1:11:38PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:11:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
1:11:48PM READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
1:11:50PM FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING, AND ABANDONING A
1:11:53PM PORTION OF 23rd AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND CERTAIN ALLEYWAY
1:11:56PM LOCATED NORTH OF 21st AVENUE, SOUTH OF MELBURNE BOULEVARD,
1:12:00PM EAST OF 40th STREET, AND WEST OF 44th STREET, ALL WITHIN
1:12:05PM THE PLAT OF HIGHLAND PINES, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
1:12:08PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN
1:12:11PM SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO THE RESERVATION OF CERTAIN
1:12:14PM EASEMENTS AND THE IMPOSITION OF CERTAIN COVENANTS,
1:12:17PM CONDITIONS, AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
1:12:20PM HEREIN; PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
1:12:24PM VIOLATIONS; PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS AND
1:12:28PM REPEALING CONFLICTS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING
1:12:31PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:12:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
1:12:33PM CLENDENIN.
1:12:34PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
1:12:37PM -- ACTUALLY, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:12:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HAS THE CITY ATTORNEY LOOKED AT THIS AND
1:12:41PM GIVE AN OPINION?
1:12:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. WIGGINTON.
1:12:46PM >>RON WIGGINTON: LEGAL DEPARTMENT, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION.
1:12:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING?
1:12:50PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO REOPEN FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
1:12:54PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
1:12:55PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:12:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:12:57PM AYE.
1:12:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I USUALLY WOULD GET A SCRIPT OR
1:13:00PM SOMETHING.
1:13:01PM EVER USE THIS LAND, SELLING IT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
1:13:05PM >>RON WIGGINTON: I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE APPLICANT'S
1:13:09PM QUESTION ABOUT WHAT HE WANTS TO DO WITH IT.
1:13:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO ANYTHING
1:13:13PM LIKE THIS, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT?
1:13:14PM >>RON WIGGINTON: NO, WE HAVE NO OBJECTION FOR THE VACATING.
1:13:17PM IT'S BASICALLY THE STAFF'S DETERMINATION AND IN PARTICULAR
1:13:20PM MOBILITY DEPARTMENT'S DETERMINATION WHETHER THEY WANT TO
1:13:23PM HAVE USE OF THE ALLEYWAY AND/OR THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
1:13:26PM ONCE THEY APPROVE THAT, THEN LEGAL IS GENERALLY OKAY WITH
1:13:29PM IT.
1:13:30PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
1:13:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE IF THERE'S
1:13:34PM NOTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, SECOND BY COUNCIL
1:13:38PM MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:13:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:13:41PM AYE.
1:13:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GENERALLY SPEAKING, I DON'T SUPPORT ALLEY
1:13:44PM CLOSURES, SINCE THIS IS AN ALLEY TO NOWHERE AND WE DON'T
1:13:49PM HAVE ANY RESIDENTS WHO OPPOSED IT, THEN I WILL SUPPORT IT.
1:13:53PM I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO BE THE MOTION MAKER.
1:13:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DITTO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID.
1:14:00PM I'M GENERALLY NOT IN FAVOR OF CLOSING USEFUL ALLEYS IN THE
1:14:03PM CITY OF TAMPA.
1:14:03PM CLEARLY, THIS IS ONE THAT HAS GONE BEYOND USEFULNESS AND THE
1:14:08PM AREA HAS CHANGED.
1:14:09PM PIECING TOGETHER THE PARCELS FOR COMMERCIAL USE IS
1:14:12PM BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
1:14:13PM I'LL BE VOTING IN FAVOR.
1:14:14PM GENERALLY I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF CLOSING ALLEYWAYS.
1:14:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
1:14:19PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
1:14:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
1:14:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
1:14:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
1:14:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
1:14:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
1:14:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
1:14:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
1:14:28PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:14:30PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 19, 2023
1:14:34PM AT 9:30 A.M.
1:14:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:14:37PM NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 56.
1:14:42PM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
1:14:44PM FILE VAC-23-19.
1:14:48PM THE APPLICANT IS JOHN AND ELIZABETH THEOFILOS.
1:14:54PM REPRESENTATIVE NAME IS STEVE MICHELINI.
1:14:56PM THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 6303 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
1:14:59PM THIS IS A PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE BAY TRAIL
1:15:08PM COURT RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH OF SHORE BREEZE DRIVE,
1:15:11PM SOUTH OF AVERILL AVENUE, EAST OF ELLIS DRIVE AND WEST OF
1:15:14PM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
1:15:15PM THIS APPLICATION WAS FILED ON MAY 7, 2023.
1:15:20PM APPLICANT OWNS PROPERTY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BAY TRAIL COURT
1:15:23PM THAT IS REQUESTED TO BE VACATED.
1:15:25PM APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS POORLY MAINTAINED
1:15:28PM RIGHT-OF-WAY, PRINCIPALLY SERVES PETITIONER'S PROPERTY.
1:15:32PM DEAD END COURT IS NOT REGULARLY MAINTAINED AND PRESENTS
1:15:36PM ACCESS ISSUES FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
1:15:38PM AERIAL.
1:15:47PM PROPERTY OWNER'S AREA IN RED AND PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST
1:15:50PM IN YELLOW.
1:15:51PM SUBDIVISION PLAT IN WHICH THE UNNAMED ROADWAY THAT WAS
1:16:03PM CREATED.
1:16:05PM AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.
1:16:06PM APPLICANT'S PROPERTY LOOKING WEST FROM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
1:16:20PM THIS IS THE BAY TRAIL COURT AREA LOOKING WEST FROM BAYSHORE
1:16:27PM BOULEVARD.
1:16:30PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST AT THE APPROXIMATE MIDPOINT OF THE
1:16:40PM PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
1:16:42PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST TOWARDS BAYSHORE BOULEVARD OF THE
1:16:51PM PROPOSED VACATING AREA.
1:16:52PM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS VACATING REQUEST.
1:17:00PM EASEMENT RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED.
1:17:03PM TECO.
1:17:04PM SPECIAL CONDITIONS FOR NATURAL RESOURCES.
1:17:06PM MUST COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 REGARDING TREE PRESERVATION AND
1:17:09PM SITE DESIGN FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS.
1:17:11PM PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN THE VACATED AREA.
1:17:13PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
1:17:15PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
1:17:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:17:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU PUT THE FIRST PICTURE WE SHOWED,
1:17:22PM THE ALLEY VACATING?
1:17:23PM IT SAYS IT ONLY SERVICED THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY.
1:17:34PM OBVIOUSLY IT IS ADJACENT TO OTHER PROPERTIES.
1:17:37PM CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
1:17:38PM >>ROSS SAMONS: CORRECT.
1:17:39PM PREVIOUSLY I THINK IT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT AND
1:17:45PM BACKGROUND.
1:17:47PM THIS ROAD PREVIOUSLY WAS PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN THE
1:17:51PM PAST, AND IT WAS WITHDRAWN.
1:17:54PM THE FIRST TIME IT DID NOT.
1:17:55PM THE SECOND TIME BECAUSE THERE WAS OPPOSING INTERESTS
1:17:59PM ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
1:18:02PM AND THAT WAS THIS PROPERTY HERE.
1:18:04PM AND AT THE TIME THIS WAS THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT WAS
1:18:10PM OWNED BY THE OPPOSING MEMBER.
1:18:14PM AND NOW I THINK -- I'LL LET THE APPLICANT EXPLAIN THAT.
1:18:18PM BUT I THINK IT'S MOSTLY FAMILY MEMBERS, AS FAR AS THE OWNER
1:18:23PM TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPOSED VACATING
1:18:25PM REQUEST NOW TODAY.
1:18:26PM AND THIS IS AN HOA.
1:18:29PM SO THEY WERE NOTIFIED AS WELL BECAUSE THEY ARE ABUTTING
1:18:34PM INTERESTS.
1:18:34PM DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
1:18:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
1:18:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
1:18:39PM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
1:18:43PM YES, SIR.
1:18:48PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
1:18:49PM STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
1:18:52PM I THINK STAFF HAS DONE A GREAT JOB IN IDENTIFYING THE ISSUES
1:18:59PM BASICALLY.
1:19:00PM OUR PROBLEMS RELATE -- LET ME SHOW YOU.
1:19:07PM THE APPLICANT OWNS THREE OF THE FOUR ABUTTING PROPERTIES.
1:19:13PM ONE OF THE FOUR IS A RETENTION POND THAT'S INACCESSIBLE TO
1:19:18PM THIS AREA AT ALL.
1:19:21PM WHAT HAPPENS IS THIS ROADWAY LOOKS AND ACTS AS IF IT WERE A
1:19:33PM PRIVATE DRIVEWAY.
1:19:35PM AND WHENEVER WE END UP GOING TO THE CITY FOR ASSISTANCE IN
1:19:41PM FILLING IN THE POTHOLES, ADDRESSING THE DRAINAGE AND
1:19:43PM FLOODING PROBLEMS, THEY SAY THAT IT'S A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY.
1:19:50PM IT DEAD-ENDS INTO THIS, WHICH ABUTS MY PROPERTY OWNER'S
1:19:59PM OTHER PROPERTY.
1:20:00PM HE OWNS THREE OF THE FOUR.
1:20:01PM THE OTHER IS THE RETENTION POND, AS I MENTIONED.
1:20:06PM LET ME SHOW YOU HERE.
1:20:12PM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ENDS HERE.
1:20:17PM MY CLIENT, THE PETITIONER OWNS THIS PROPERTY, THIS PROPERTY,
1:20:22PM AND THIS PROPERTY.
1:20:22PM AND THIS IS A WALLED-IN RETENTION POND.
1:20:26PM IT DOESN'T GO ANYWHERE.
1:20:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, YOU SAID THAT THE CITY HAS ISSUES
1:20:34PM WHEN THEY COME OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY SAID THIS IS A PRIVATE
1:20:36PM DRIVE OR A PRIVATE ROAD, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID?
1:20:39PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YES, SIR.
1:20:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FROM ONE OF THE PHOTOS I BELIEVE I SAW A
1:20:43PM SIGN THAT SAYS PRIVATE ROAD, IS THAT CORRECT?
1:20:45PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE OTHER SIGN.
1:20:47PM THAT'S ANOTHER DRIVEWAY.
1:20:48PM THIS IS WHAT IT GOES INTO ON THE WEST SIDE, AND YOU SEE THAT
1:20:56PM FENCE THERE, THAT'S PART OF THE RETENTION POND THAT IS
1:21:00PM ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONDO TOWN HOUSE PROJECT IMMEDIATELY TO
1:21:05PM THE SOUTH.
1:21:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU SHOW US A MAP?
1:21:12PM DO YOU HAVE A MAP THAT BLOWS IT OUT FURTHER SO WE CAN SEE IF
1:21:16PM THESE PARCELS WERE DIVIDED IN THE FUTURE, HOW PEOPLE WOULD
1:21:20PM ACCESS THE OTHER PARCELS?
1:21:22PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THE ACCESS IS FROM THE SOUTH.
1:21:24PM I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE AN AERIAL SHOWING THAT, BUT THEY
1:21:29PM DON'T HAVE -- THIS WALL IS BACK THERE.
1:21:35PM SO THEY COULDN'T DRIVE TO THE RETENTION POND.
1:21:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALL THE PROPERTIES ARE ACCESSIBLE BY ROADS
1:21:40PM AROUND.
1:21:40PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THAT'S CORRECT.
1:21:41PM BUT THEY ARE ACCESSIBLE BY A ROADWAY NETWORK FURTHER TO THE
1:21:44PM SOUTH AND CUL-DE-SACS.
1:21:46PM NONE OF THEM CONNECT TO THIS.
1:21:48PM THIS IS A PICTURE OF A CONTINUATION OF THAT WALL.
1:21:53PM THIS GOES ACROSS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT
1:21:59PM CONNECTION.
1:22:01PM HERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE OF THE WALL.
1:22:06PM HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE RETENTION POND THAT'S ADJACENT TO
1:22:11PM MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY WHICH IS HERE AND OVER TO THIS SIDE.
1:22:18PM THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE FLOODING THAT OCCURS BACK THERE AND
1:22:25PM WHAT WAS ASKED OF THE CITY WAS TO COME IN AND TRY TO DO
1:22:28PM SOMETHING, EITHER CHANGE THE GRADES OR PATCH THE HOLES TO
1:22:33PM PREVENT THE RUNOFF FROM BAYSHORE THAT COMES DOWN THE ROADWAY
1:22:36PM AND THEN FLOODS THEIR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
1:22:40PM HERE'S ANOTHER PICTURE OF WHAT OCCURS AT THE WEST END.
1:22:46PM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF GRAND TREES THAT SIT IN THAT
1:22:49PM RIGHT-OF-WAY, PLUS THE VEGETATION AND THE WALL THAT I
1:22:52PM POINTED OUT TO YOU, WHICH IS HERE.
1:22:54PM ANYWAY, OUT OF THE FOUR PROPERTIES THAT ABUT IT, ONE IS THE
1:23:16PM RETENTION POND.
1:23:17PM THE OTHER THREE ARE ALL OWNED BY MY CLIENT.
1:23:22PM THE ESTIMATES FOR FIXING THE ROADWAY AND CORRECTING THE
1:23:25PM DRAINAGE, AS WELL AS REPAVING, IS SOMEWHERE IN THE
1:23:28PM NEIGHBORHOOD OF 178,000 TO 200,000 DOLLARS, WHICH MY CLIENT
1:23:34PM IS WILLING TO ACCEPT SHOULD THE VACATING BE APPROVED.
1:23:39PM THE OBSTRUCTIONS TO THE SITE, I MEAN, IT ONLY SERVES MY
1:23:46PM CLIENT'S PROPERTY.
1:23:49PM SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS FOR THE VACATING TO OCCUR.
1:23:53PM IT'S GOING TO REMAIN AS A SINGLE-FAMILY USE.
1:23:56PM IT CAN'T BE SUBDIVIDED.
1:23:57PM THE EASEMENTS PREVENT ANY DEVELOPMENT FROM OCCURRING ON THAT
1:24:01PM PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
1:24:03PM WE'RE COMMITTING TO MAINTAINING AND PERMITTING ANY TREES
1:24:08PM THAT HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.
1:24:12PM IT'S AS IF IT'S A CANOPY DRIVEWAY.
1:24:17PM THE VACATING HAS TO BE BASED UPON THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA:
1:24:23PM DOES IT ALLEVIATE A PUBLIC COST FOR REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE?
1:24:26PM YES, IT DOES.
1:24:27PM WILL IT ALLEVIATE ILLEGAL DUMPING?
1:24:32PM YES, IT DOES.
1:24:34PM WHAT HAPPENS IS PEOPLE COME DOWN THERE, THEY DUMP THINGS.
1:24:36PM IT'S ALSO BEEN AN ASSEMBLY AREA FOR TEENAGERS TO GO BACK
1:24:41PM THERE AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO.
1:24:44PM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WILL NOT BE AFFECTED BECAUSE THE
1:24:50PM THREE PROPERTIES THAT ACCESS -- WELL, ONLY TWO -- TWO OF THE
1:24:54PM FOUR ACCESS IT.
1:24:56PM THE THIRD PROPERTY ACCESSES IT OFF OF ELLIS DRIVE.
1:25:00PM SO IT DOESN'T EVEN COME -- IT'S NOT ACCESSIBLE OFF OF THIS
1:25:03PM ROADWAY.
1:25:04PM THE GENERAL PUBLIC INTERESTS ARE SERVED BECAUSE THIS ALLOWS
1:25:12PM A DRIVEWAY THAT LOOKS LIKE AND FUNCTIONS AS IF IT WERE A
1:25:14PM PRIVATE DRIVE AND THE OWNER IS WILLING TO ACCEPT THE
1:25:18PM RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTENANCE, UPKEEP, REPAIRS, AND IT WILL
1:25:21PM REQUIRE EXTENSIVE REPAIRS TO STOP THE DRAINAGE AND THE WATER
1:25:25PM THAT'S RUNNING OFF OF BAYSHORE ONTO HIS PROPERTY.
1:25:28PM DID THE STAFF PRODUCE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
1:25:36PM SUPPORTING THIS REPORT -- IN THE REPORT?
1:25:39PM THE ANSWER IS YES.
1:25:40PM AND DO WE CONCUR WITH THAT REPORT INCLUDING THE RESERVATION
1:25:44PM OF EASEMENTS AND THE CONDITIONS CONTAINED?
1:25:47PM WE DO.
1:25:48PM THE TREES, AS THE STAFF REPORT POINTS OUT, HAVE TO BE
1:25:52PM MAINTAINED AND CARED FOR IN ACCORDANCE WITH A CHAPTER IN THE
1:25:58PM CODE IN THE CITY THAT ADDRESSES THAT.
1:26:00PM I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
1:26:04PM I HAVE THE PRINTOUTS FROM THE PROPERTY APPRAISER'S OFFICE
1:26:10PM PROVING OWNERSHIP AND THE SUN BIZ ACCOUNT SHOWING THAT
1:26:15PM INFORMATION AS WELL.
1:26:16PM IF YOU WANT THAT, I WILL BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT.
1:26:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT I HAVE A
1:26:22PM COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
1:26:23PM YOU SAID THAT THE PROPERTY COULD NOT BE SUBDIVIDED.
1:26:26PM CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
1:26:30PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: WITH THE VACATING.
1:26:32PM NOTHING CAN BE BUILT ON IT.
1:26:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN THEY COMBINE THE PROPERTIES, THE
1:26:37PM COMBINED PROPERTY --
1:26:37PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: YOU CAN'T COMBINE THEM ACROSS AN EASEMENT
1:26:40PM LIKE THAT.
1:26:41PM IT HAS TO REMAIN AS AN ACCESS DRIVEWAY.
1:26:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COULDN'T SUBDIVIDE THE EASEMENT OF THE
1:26:47PM PROPERTY?
1:26:49PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THEY ARE NOT LIKELY TO DO THAT.
1:26:51PM THE HOUSE IS PRETTY EXTENSIVE.
1:26:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WATCHED PRETTY IMPRESSIVE HOUSES GET
1:26:58PM TORN DOWN.
1:27:02PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I CAN SHOW YOU AN AERIAL.
1:27:08PM NOT LIKELY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO REDEVELOP THIS, BUT YOU
1:27:18PM CAN SEE OTHER HOUSES IN THE AREA.
1:27:20PM THIS ISN'T DESIGNED FOR THE PURPOSE AND THE REQUEST IS NOT
1:27:23PM INTENDED FOR THAT PURPOSE.
1:27:24PM THIS IS THE PETITIONER'S HOUSE.
1:27:26PM THIS IS ALSO THE PETITIONER'S HOUSE AND THIS IS ALSO THE
1:27:30PM PETITIONER'S HOUSE, AND THEN THIS IS THE DRAINAGE RETENTION
1:27:34PM POND THAT I SHOWED YOU WHERE THE WALL WAS.
1:27:38PM ONLY THESE TWO PROPERTIES ACCESS THIS DRIVEWAY.
1:27:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE CURRENT ZONING ON THAT
1:27:44PM PROPERTY?
1:27:44PM DO YOU KNOW?
1:27:45PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M NOT SURE.
1:27:46PM IT COULD EASILY BE RS 100, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
1:27:51PM AGAIN, THIS IS AN ESTATE HOME.
1:27:57PM THEY ARE NOT INTENDING TO MOVE OR SUBDIVIDE THIS INTO
1:28:01PM SMALLER HOMES.
1:28:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEST INTENTIONS.
1:28:04PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: NO.
1:28:04PM WHAT I'M SAYING, THE RIGHT-OF-WAY VACATING WILL STILL REMAIN
1:28:08PM REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY DECIDE TO --
1:28:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF I VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS, IT'S BECAUSE
1:28:12PM OF THE UTILITY EASEMENTS AND THE TREE ISSUES.
1:28:16PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: RIGHT.
1:28:17PM WE'RE FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT PROVIDES THE ACCESS.
1:28:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND BECAUSE IT IS A DEAD END ALLEY, NOT A
1:28:24PM THRU ALLEY.
1:28:25PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: PROVIDES ACCESS TO THIS HOUSE AND THIS
1:28:27PM HOUSE.
1:28:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF ACCOMMODATIONS
1:28:29PM WE'LL MAKE IN RELOCATING THESE TEENS?
1:28:41PM IF YOU'RE GOING TO AFFECT THAT AND DISLOCATE, I THINK WE
1:28:44PM HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE.
1:28:45PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: WE'LL CALL THE CHAIR AND ASK FOR
1:28:48PM ASSISTANCE.
1:28:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CALL WHO?
1:28:49PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THE CHAIRMAN.
1:28:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY CAN RELOCATE TO BALLAST POINT PARK.
1:28:58PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: IT IS A REMOTE DRIVEWAY.
1:29:00PM IT IS TREE COVERED.
1:29:03PM THE PETITIONER LIKES THAT AND IS GOING TO MAINTAIN THAT AS
1:29:06PM IT IS, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO FIX IT.
1:29:09PM IF YOU LOOK IN HERE, THIS IS THE AREA -- THIS AREA AND THIS
1:29:15PM AREA HERE ARE THE AREAS THAT FLOOD FROM THE WATER BECAUSE
1:29:19PM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS HIGHER THAN THE ROADWAY.
1:29:22PM SO THE WATER IS GOING RIGHT DOWN THE ROADWAY AND FLOODING IN
1:29:25PM HERE.
1:29:26PM ANYWAY, I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE MET THE BURDEN AS REQUIRED BY
1:29:32PM THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR
1:29:35PM APPROVAL.
1:29:36PM I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
1:29:39PM TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS.
1:29:41PM WE NOTIFIED ALL OF THE REQUIRED PROPERTY OWNERS, INCLUDING
1:29:44PM THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS.
1:29:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM
1:29:48PM COUNCIL?
1:29:48PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS
1:29:54PM ITEM?
1:29:54PM THERE'S NOBODY REGISTERED.
1:29:56PM AT THIS TIME, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN
1:30:00PM VIERA.
1:30:01PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:30:02PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:30:03PM >> AYE.
1:30:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, 56.
1:30:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
1:30:07PM AGAIN, I ECHO THAT I NORMALLY DON'T LIKE TO CLOSE ALLEYS,
1:30:14PM BUT THIS IS AN ALLEY TO NOWHERE OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER
1:30:17PM ON BOTH SIDES.
1:30:18PM FILE NUMBER VAC 23-19, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST
1:30:24PM READING CONSIDERATION.
1:30:24PM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING,
1:30:27PM CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING THE BAY TRAIL COURT
1:30:31PM RIGHT-OF-WAY LOCATED NORTH OF SHORE BREEZE DRIVE, SOUTH OF
1:30:34PM AVERILL AVENUE, EAST OF ELLIS DRIVE, AND WEST OF BAYSHORE
1:30:38PM BOULEVARD, WITHIN A REVISED MAP OF PART OF W.A. SWITZER
1:30:43PM ESTATE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA,
1:30:47PM AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO THE
1:30:53PM RESERVATION OF CERTAIN EASEMENTS AND IMPOSITION OF CERTAIN
1:30:55PM COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY
1:30:58PM SET FORTH HEREIN; PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS
1:31:02PM AND REPEALING CONFLICTS; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
1:31:06PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
1:31:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:31:09PM SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
1:31:10PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
1:31:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
1:31:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
1:31:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
1:31:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
1:31:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
1:31:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
1:31:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
1:31:21PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
1:31:23PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 19,
1:31:27PM 2023, AT 9:30 A.M.
1:31:28PM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
1:31:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:31:30PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION -- THIS IS BY REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT
1:31:33PM -- TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 60?
1:31:35PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
1:31:37PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:31:39PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:31:40PM AYE.
1:31:41PM WE HAVE ITEM 61.
1:31:45PM THIS IS QUASI-JUDICIAL.
1:31:46PM I SAW NEW FACES COME INTO THE ROOM.
1:31:48PM IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM 61, PLEASE STAND, RAISE
1:31:51PM YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN, IF YOU'RE GOING TO
1:31:55PM GIVE ANY TESTIMONY.
1:31:57PM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
1:32:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:32:10PM THIS MATTER AND TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC THAT'S HERE.
1:32:13PM THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER.
1:32:16PM TRADITIONALLY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THE
1:32:18PM MATTERS GIVING RISE TO THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING OR
1:32:23PM CONFLICT.
1:32:25PM IN MY CAPACITY AS A TAMPA CITY COUNCILMAN AS THIS INVOLVES
1:32:28PM MY DISTRICT, I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED NUMEROUS TIMES THROUGH
1:32:32PM PHONE CALLS AND PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE TIMES ON DIFFERENT
1:32:37PM ISSUES INVOLVING THIS DISPUTE.
1:32:39PM THEREFORE, AFTER SPEAKING WITH MR. SHELBY, IT'S BEST TO DO A
1:32:46PM CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORM GIVEN MY PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT, NOT
1:32:50PM THAT I HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THIS MATTER.
1:32:52PM SO, THEREFORE, I ABSTAIN FROM VOTING ON THIS QUASI-JUDICIAL
1:32:55PM MATTER TO AVOID THE APPEARANCE OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND
1:32:58PM TO ENSURE A FAIR PROCEEDING FREE FROM POTENTIAL BIAS OR
1:33:03PM PREJUDICE.
1:33:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
1:33:07PM MIRANDA.
1:33:08PM SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
1:33:09PM ALL IN FAVOR?
1:33:11PM >> AYE.
1:33:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
1:33:12PM YES, MA'AM.
1:33:14PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:33:15PM CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
1:33:17PM ITEM 61 IS REGARDING DE 1-23-45 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
1:33:24PM 2905 EAST OKARA ROAD.
1:33:28PM THIS IS BEFORE YOU AS POSITION FOR REVIEW.
1:33:30PM THE PETITION IS DR. TAZIA STAGG.
1:33:33PM SHE IS APPEALING A REQUEST THAT WAS DENIED BY STAFF, A
1:33:36PM REQUEST FOR DESIGN EXCEPTION TO ALLOW A 6-FOOT FENCE ALONG
1:33:41PM THE FRONT AND WEST SIDE OF HER PROPERTY WITH A PRIVATE
1:33:45PM FABRIC OR SCREENING.
1:33:46PM STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION ON JUNE 13 OF 2023 ON THE BASIS
1:33:51PM THAT THE APPLICATION DID NOT MEET THE CRITERIA THAT IS SET
1:33:55PM FORTH IN CODE SECTION 27-290.1 SUBSECTION E-1.
1:34:00PM I'VE HANDED OR HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE RECEIVED COPIES OF THE
1:34:07PM RULES OF PROCEDURE, THE RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS REGARDING
1:34:10PM THIS MATTER WHICH ARE 27-60, ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION
1:34:14PM AND THE STANDARD FOR REVIEW FOR THIS REVIEW HEARING WHICH IS
1:34:18PM FOUND IN CODE SECTION 27-61.
1:34:22PM MS. MARLEY FROM STAFF WILL EXPLAIN AND GO OVER CODE SECTION
1:34:25PM 27-290.1 SUBSECTION E-1 WHICH IS THE STANDARD REGARDING
1:34:32PM FENCE AND WALL REGULATIONS.
1:34:33PM AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THIS REVIEW
1:34:36PM HEARING IS FOUND IN CODE SECTION 27-61 SUBSECTION J-2.
1:34:42PM THAT CODE SECTION STATES THAT THE REVIEW HEARING IS A
1:34:45PM DE NOVO HEARING WHICH MEANS THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN ACCEPT NEW
1:34:49PM EVIDENCE, TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND MAKE A DECISION TO
1:34:52PM DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE PETITIONER MEETS THE CRITERIA
1:34:56PM FOUND IN CODE SECTION 27-290.1 SUBSECTION E-1.
1:35:02PM MS. MARLEY FROM THE STAFF WILL APPEAR TO EXPLAIN STAFF'S
1:35:08PM DECISION AND THE APPLICATION THAT STAFF REVIEWED.
1:35:12PM AFTER HEARING ALL THE EVIDENCE IN THIS MATTER, CITY COUNCIL
1:35:15PM CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND
1:35:19PM THEREBY DENY THE REQUEST FOR THE DESIGN EXCEPTION OR CITY
1:35:23PM COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
1:35:26PM ADMINISTRATOR AND THEREFORE GRANT THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.
1:35:30PM WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. MARLEY.
1:35:35PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
1:35:36PM LAURA MARLEY, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
1:35:39PM CAN I SHARE MY SCREEN, PLEASE?
1:35:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN WE RAISE THE VOLUME A LITTLE BIT?
1:35:47PM >> CAN YOU SEE MY PRESENTATION?
1:35:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
1:36:01PM >> OKAY.
1:36:01PM SO THIS IS A DESIGN EXCEPTION 2345, 2905 EAST OKARA ROAD, RS
1:36:11PM 60.
1:36:12PM THE REQUEST WAS FOR A SIX FOOT HIGH CHAIN-LINK FENCE IN THE
1:36:15PM FRONT YARD WITH A VISUAL BARRIER AND THE SECTION IS 27291 E
1:36:24PM FRONT YARDS WITHIN SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT, FENCES AND
1:36:27PM WALLS MAY BE LOCATED WITHIN THE FRONT YARDS PROVIDED THE
1:36:30PM HEIGHT DOES NOT EXCEED THREE FEET FOR FENCES BUILT OF OPAQUE
1:36:35PM MATERIALS OR FOUR FEET OF FENCES BUILT OF TRANSPARENT
1:36:39PM MATERIALS WHICH DO NOT OBSTRUCT LIGHT, AIR, AND VISIBILITY.
1:36:42PM THIS IS THE AREA OF THE PROPERTY.
1:36:45PM AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS RS 60 ON EAST OKARA ROAD.
1:36:49PM THIS IS THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE TO REVIEW UNDER 2760 FOR
1:36:53PM ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION.
1:36:55PM AND THIS IS THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
1:37:01PM THE OUTLINED PORTIONS IN PINK ARE WHERE THE APPLICANT WOULD
1:37:06PM LIKE THE SIX FOOT FENCE.
1:37:10PM THESE ARE PICTURES FROM CODE ENFORCEMENT DATED NOVEMBER 2,
1:37:16PM 2021.
1:37:16PM AND THESE ARE PICTURES FROM STAFF.
1:37:25PM THIS IS DECEMBER 2022.
1:37:29PM THIS IS DECEMBER 2022.
1:37:31PM AND THIS IS ALSO DECEMBER 2022.
1:37:36PM WE DENIED THE APPLICATION OF THE SIX FOOT CHAIN-LINK FENCE
1:37:44PM WITH FABRIC AND OTHER MATERIALS IN THE FRONT YARD.
1:37:47PM IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT OF THE CODE AND THE
1:37:50PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:37:52PM IT WAS DISAPPROVED AND JUST FOR COUNCIL'S INFORMATION,
1:37:57PM SECTION 27-291 FOR MATERIALS, FENCE AND WALLS SHALL BE
1:38:02PM CONSTRUCTED OF CHAIN-LINK, WOOD, MASONRY OR DECORATIVE
1:38:08PM WROUGHT IRON, CORRUGATED METAL PANELS WITH DECORATIVE
1:38:12PM FRAMING OR PVC.
1:38:18PM THOSE ARE THE STANDARDS OF THE MATERIALS OF THE FENCES.
1:38:20PM THANK YOU.
1:38:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME?
1:38:26PM DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION, MA'AM?
1:38:29PM >> YES, SIR.
1:38:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
1:38:30PM ANY QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL?
1:38:31PM ALL RIGHT.
1:38:32PM WE NOW WELCOME THE APPLICANT TO COME UP.
1:38:38PM AT THIS TIME, YOU WILL HAVE 15 MINUTES AND THEN WE WILL OPEN
1:38:42PM IT FOR QUESTIONS BY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
1:38:45PM YES, MA'AM.
1:38:46PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:38:51PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
1:38:53PM I'M TAZIA STAGG.
1:38:54PM THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CONSIDER THIS.
1:39:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A VIDEO UP ON THE SCREEN.
1:39:02PM WOULD YOU LIKE US TO START PLAYING IT?
1:39:05PM IT IS 15 MINUTES LONG.
1:39:08PM >> JUST WHATEVER TIME WE HAVE TO PLAY IT PLEASE, YES, THANK
1:39:10PM YOU.
1:39:11PM I GREW UP IN PASCO AND MOVED TO THE TAMPA OVERLOOK
1:39:15PM NEIGHBORHOOD IN 2002 TO BE NEAR CAMPUS WHEN ATTENDING
1:39:18PM MEDICAL SCHOOL AT USF.
1:39:19PM AFTER GRADUATING, I TRAINED OUT OF STATE, BECAME BOARD
1:39:22PM CERTIFIED IN A SPECIALTY PUBLIC HEALTH AND GENERAL
1:39:25PM PREVENTIVE MEDICINE.
1:39:26PM COMPLETED FELLOWSHIP TRAINING AND RETURNED TO THE HOME MY
1:39:29PM PARENTS LOVINGLY RENOVATED.
1:39:31PM I AM A CONSCIENTIOUS LADY.
1:39:34PM ALONG WITH HEALTH AND SAFETY I CARE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT.
1:39:36PM I GARDEN FOR WILDLIFE AND JOINED THE FLORIDA NATIVE PLANT
1:39:39PM SOCIETY.
1:39:39PM I HAVE RESCUED A DOG AND MANY FRIENDLY CATS FROM THE
1:39:42PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND I FERAL CATS FOR YEARS UNTIL MY FEEDING
1:39:46PM STATION WAS VANDALIZED.
1:39:48PM PART OF THE MISTREATMENT I'VE SUFFERED TO THE DETRIMENT OF
1:39:50PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF WHO LIVES NEXT DOOR.
1:39:53PM 53 MONTHS AGO IN MAY 2019, THE FAMILY NEXT DOOR BEGAN
1:39:57PM HARASSING ME.
1:39:58PM THEY SEEK ME OUT AND EXPRESS UPSET WHENEVER I'M IN VIEW SO I
1:40:02PM NEED TO BE OUT OF VIEW.
1:40:03PM I HAVE REQUESTED PERMISSION TO BUILD A SIX FOOT PRIVACY
1:40:06PM FENCE AROUND MY FRONT YARD AND I'LL TRY TO CONCISELY EXPLAIN
1:40:10PM WHY IT WAS NEEDED.
1:40:11PM I NEED THE PROTECTION OF A VISUAL BARRIER AROUND MY FRONT
1:40:14PM YARD SO I MIGHT SAFELY WORK TO RESTORE VALUE TO MY HOME
1:40:17PM WHICH HAS DETERIORATED OVER THE COURSE OF FOUR YEARS THAT
1:40:20PM I'VE BEEN AFRAID TO BE OUTSIDE ON MY PROPERTY DUE TO THE
1:40:23PM BEHAVIOR OF THE FAMILY NEXT DOOR AND THE ACCOMPLICES THEY
1:40:25PM RECRUIT TO ACT OUT AGAINST ME.
1:40:27PM CONTRAST TO ZONING STAFF DETERMINATION, I BELIEVE MY REQUEST
1:40:31PM IS A REASONABLE ALLOWANCE CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES IS
1:40:34PM CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE TAMPA
1:40:36PM OVERLOOK NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS THE MINIMAL POSSIBLE EFFECTIVE
1:40:41PM EXCEPTION.
1:40:42PM I REQUESTED PERMISSION FOR SIX FOOT CHAIN-LINK FENCING WITH
1:40:46PM THE OPTION OF SYNTHETIC PRIVACY SCREEN.
1:40:49PM I CAN EXPLAIN WHY OTHER STYLES OF VISUAL BARRIERS WOULD NOT
1:40:52PM BE OPTIMAL IN THIS SITUATION.
1:40:53PM I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE PROBLEM FAMILY APPLIED IN 2021 FOR A
1:40:56PM DESIGN EXCEPTION FOR A TALLER BARRIER THAN WHAT I AM
1:40:59PM PROPOSING.
1:41:00PM WHEN EVIDENCE WAS REQUESTED THEY COULD NOT SUPPORT THEIR
1:41:03PM CLAIMS THAT I HAVE DONE SOMETHING TO THEM TO JUSTIFY THEIR
1:41:06PM PROPOSAL.
1:41:07PM I WANTED YOU TO HEAR THE TAMPA POLICE OFFICER IN THIS
1:41:11PM FOOTAGE MAKE AN HONEST, ACCURATE, AND CHILLING SAFETY
1:41:15PM ASSESSMENT SAYING OF ME, I'M SURPRISED SHE HASN'T BEEN HURT
1:41:19PM YET.
1:41:20PM I WANTED YOU TO HEAR THE VICIOUS THREAT OF BODILY HARM AND
1:41:23PM GIVE YOU A TASTE OF THE AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR I'M ROUTINELY
1:41:26PM EXPOSED TO WHEN I TRY TO BE AT HOME.
1:41:29PM AUDIO IS FORBIDDEN DUE TO PROFANITY.
1:41:33PM THE FIRST REASON THE FENCE IS NEEDED IS TO PROTECT MY DOG.
1:41:36PM AMONG MANY OTHER PROBLEMS FROM NEXT DOOR, FRIGHTENING
1:41:38PM AGGRESSION, FALSE ACCUSATIONS, NAME CALLING, ORCHESTRATION
1:41:40PM OF FALSE CRIMINAL CASES AGAINST ME, THE WOMAN WHO LIVES
1:41:44PM THERE HAS TWICE SHONE A LASER AT MY FACE WHEN I WAS IN THE
1:41:48PM DRIVER'S SEAT OF MY VEHICLE.
1:41:49PM THE FIRST TIME SHE ALSO SHINED IT INTO MY DOG'S EYES.
1:41:55PM HE DIDN'T KNOW TO LOOK AWAY.
1:41:57PM TO PROTECT HIM WHERE I NEEDED TO PARK, I PLACED A CANOPY
1:41:58PM STRUCTURE IN MY DRIVEWAY AND HUNG A TARP ON THE WEST SIDE TO
1:42:02PM SHIELD THE WINDOWS AT THE REAR OF THE VEHICLE WHERE HE
1:42:04PM RIDES.
1:42:04PM AND IT WORKED TO SHIELD HIS EYES THE SECOND TIME SHE
1:42:07PM ATTACKED US WITH THE LASER.
1:42:08PM BUT THAT IS UGLY AND LEAVING IT IN PLACE IS UNLAWFUL.
1:42:12PM EVEN BEFORE THE LASER TO OUR EYES INCIDENTS, EARLY IN THE
1:42:15PM COURSE OF AGGRESSIVE CONDUCT, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ANIMAL
1:42:17PM CONTROL OFFICER RECOMMENDED EXTENDING MY PRIVACY FENCE INTO
1:42:20PM THE FRONT YARD TO PROTECT US FROM CONTACT.
1:42:23PM THE NEXT REASON THE FENCE IS NEEDED IS TO PROTECT MY LIFE
1:42:28PM AND PROPERTY FROM THE FAMILY NEXT DOOR.
1:42:29PM I'VE BEEN AFRAID TO BE OUTSIDE ON MY PROPERTY SINCE MAY 2019
1:42:33PM WHEN THE HARASSMENT BEGAN.
1:42:35PM I'M A GARDENER AND I WOULD ENJOY BEING OUTDOORS AND WOULD
1:42:39PM IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD IF ALLOWED TO WORK OUTDOORS BUT
1:42:42PM AVOIDED CONTACT TO THE POINT MY PROPERTY FELL INTO CODE
1:42:45PM VIOLATION FOR OVERGROWTH AND ACCUMULATION.
1:42:47PM I HAD TO ABANDON MY BACKYARD BECAUSE I REALIZED I'M NOT SAFE
1:42:50PM THERE.
1:42:50PM THE MALICIOUS FAMILY IMMEDIATELY TO MY WEST USES CAMERAS TO
1:42:53PM MONITOR MY DRIVEWAY AND MY SIDE YARD AND BACKYARD AND THE
1:42:57PM ENTRANCES TO MY HOUSE.
1:42:58PM THE APPROPRIATE FEAR OF BEING OUTSIDE AND INABILITY TO USE
1:43:02PM THE BACKYARD CAUSED THE CODE VIOLATIONS FOR OVERGROWTH AND
1:43:05PM ACCUMULATIONS.
1:43:06PM MY PARENTS AND I WERE TRAUMATIZED WHEN THE MANAGER OF CODE
1:43:09PM ENFORCEMENT, AN ENEMY OF SUSTAINABILITY AND NATIVE
1:43:12PM LANDSCAPES, TEAMED UP WITH THE POLICE MAJOR TO MISLEAD THE
1:43:15PM SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AND ARRANGE FOR MY PROPERTY TO BE ABATED.
1:43:18PM MANY PLANTS WERE DESTROYED AND MUCH OTHER LASTING DAMAGE WAS
1:43:22PM ACCOMPLISHED.
1:43:22PM FOR YEARS, I'VE EMBARRASSINGLY HAD TO DO BACKYARD ACTIVITIES
1:43:27PM IN THE FRONT YARD OR NOT AT ALL.
1:43:29PM MY DOG WHO ARRIVED IN JUNE 2019 HAS NEVER BEEN ALLOWED TO
1:43:33PM USE THE BACKYARD.
1:43:34PM WHEN I TOOK HIM FOR WALKS, WE WOULD USE THE DOOR THAT EXITS
1:43:37PM HIS ROOM UNTIL IN OCTOBER 2021 ON THE ADVICE OF THE PUBLIC
1:43:40PM DEFENDER FOR ONE OF THE FALSE CRIMINAL CASES AGAINST ME I
1:43:43PM ARRANGED TO BRING HIM THROUGH THE HOUSE TO USE THE FRONT
1:43:46PM DOOR TO EXIT AND ENTER FOR OUR WALKS.
1:43:48PM UNTIL THEN, WE HAD REGULARLY BEEN SUBJECTED TO RIDICULOUS
1:43:53PM AND TIRESOME MISTREATMENT.
1:43:55PM THE DOGS, OUR CAMERAS WOULD DETECT US IN MY WEST SIDE YARD
1:44:00PM AND THE WOMEN WOULD RUSH OUT OF THE HOUSE FOR THE
1:44:02PM OPPORTUNITY TO FRIGHTEN US.
1:44:03PM THE WOMAN NEXT DOOR MOUNTS A LADDER IN THE BACKYARD TO LOOK
1:44:08PM OVER MY PRIVACY FENCE AND SHOUT ABUSES.
1:44:10PM HER HUSBAND HAS CLIMBED ON THE ROOF AT NIGHTTIME TO YELL AT
1:44:13PM ME.
1:44:14PM ONCE WE ABANDONED THE SIDE YARD, SHE ADAPTED BY USING AN AIR
1:44:18PM HORN TO REACH US.
1:44:19PM I'M FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT ALTHOUGH MY PRIVACY FENCES HAVEN'T
1:44:22PM MADE MY BACK AND SIDE YARDS PEACEFUL, EXPOSURE OF THE
1:44:26PM PROBLEM FAMILY IN DAYLIGHT AND BEING IN THE FRONT YARD
1:44:29PM COMBINED WITH MY CONCEALMENT FROM VIEW WOULD DETER MUCH OF
1:44:33PM THE INTRUSIVE BEHAVIOR.
1:44:35PM A SIX-FOOT VISUAL BARRIER ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF MY FRONT
1:44:39PM YARD IS INSUFFICIENT.
1:44:41PM PROMPTLY AFTER I TEMPORARILY PLACED A VISUAL BARRIER THERE,
1:44:44PM THE PROBLEM FAMILY RESPONDED BY MOVING THEIR PERFORMANCES
1:44:46PM NORTH AND EAST INTO VIEW.
1:44:49PM DAY AFTER DAY WHEN I WAS OUT PREDAWN WORKING TO RESCUE A
1:44:52PM FERAL CAT SHE HAD THREATENED HIDING BESIDE MY VEHICLE
1:44:56PM TENDING TO THE FEEDING STATION.
1:44:57PM THE PROBLEM FAMILY SOUGHT ME OUT AND HARASSED ME FROM THE
1:45:00PM RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ROAD, RATHER THAN DEPARTING IN THE OTHER
1:45:04PM DIRECTION, THEY AND THEIR DAUGHTERS TAKE EVERY OPPORTUNITY
1:45:06PM TO DRIVE BY MY HOUSE AND HARASS ME.
1:45:09PM THE PRIMARY AGGRESSOR RECENTLY STARTED PARKING ON THE
1:45:11PM PROPERTY TO MY EAST FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO INTERFERE WITH
1:45:14PM MY YARD WORK ATTEMPTS BY STOMPING BACK AND FORTH ALONG THE
1:45:17PM SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE CALLING OUT NAME CALLING,
1:45:20PM MAKING FALSE ACCUSATIONS AND CHILD INSULTS.
1:45:24PM CURSING, WORKING TO CONVINCE OTHERS TO HATE ME AND
1:45:27PM THREATENING TO CALL THE POLICE.
1:45:28PM IN MAY OF LAST YEAR, THE MAN NEXT DOOR PLANTED A POST ON THE
1:45:35PM FRONT EDGE OF THEIR PROPERTY LINE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
1:45:38PM MOUNTING A CAMERA TO MONITOR MY DRIVEWAY.
1:45:41PM SOMETIMES HIS WIFE ADDS A SECOND CAMERA TO THE POST OR A
1:45:45PM BRIGHT SPOTLIGHT DIRECTED AT MY VEHICLE'S DRIVER SEAT
1:45:49PM WINDOW.
1:45:49PM SHE ROUTINELY USES DRIVEWAY MONITORING CAMERA TO DETECT ME.
1:45:55PM THEY APPARENTLY ARRANGE FOR SOMEBODY TO BE AT HOME NEARLY
1:45:58PM ALL TIMES FOR THE PURPOSES OF MONITORING, PESTERING AND
1:46:01PM INHIBITING ME.
1:46:02PM WHEN THEY APPEARED TO BE AWAY, SHE WAS MONITORING ME
1:46:05PM REMOTELY.
1:46:06PM SHE USES THE TWO-WAY AUDIO CAPABILITY OF THE CAMERA THAT
1:46:10PM MONITORS MY DRIVEWAY TO SHOUT EXPLETIVES AT ME AND RETURNED
1:46:13PM HOME URGENTLY AFTER I APPEARED BEFORE THE CAMERA.
1:46:17PM I NEED THE REMOTE OPERATED GATE SO I CAN ACCESS MY PROPERTY
1:46:21PM WITHOUT HAVING TO GET OUT OF MY VEHICLE AND STAND IN VIEW OF
1:46:24PM THEIR CAMERA.
1:46:24PM I NEED PRIVACY IN MY FRONT YARD SO I MIGHT SAFELY PERFORM
1:46:28PM BASIC TASKS.
1:46:29PM I WANT TO RETURN TO MY PROPERTY AND WORK TO RESTORE ITS
1:46:31PM VALUE WHICH WOULD BE A WIN-WIN FOR MY FAMILY, NEIGHBORHOOD
1:46:36PM AND CITY.
1:46:37PM THE THIRD REASON THE FENCE IS NEEDED IS TO PROTECT MY LIFE
1:46:40PM AND PROPERTY FROM ACCOMPLICES RECRUITED AND DECEIVED BY THE
1:46:44PM FAMILY NEXT DOOR.
1:46:44PM THEY EFFECTIVELY RECRUIT OTHERS TO ACT OUT AGAINST ME.
1:46:51PM AMONG STALKERS, THIS IS AN INDICATION OF RISK FOR VIOLENCE.
1:46:54PM ACCORDING TO THEM, I STOLE A DOG, I STOLE A CAT, I STOLE
1:46:58PM PLANTS FROM 30th STREET, I POISONED ONE OF THEIR DOGS, I
1:47:01PM TOLD CODE ENFORCEMENT MY PARENTS ARE DEAD, I AM CRAZY,
1:47:04PM CRAY-CRAY, CUCKOO, BIPOLAR, OFF MEDS, ON DRUGS, I LOST MY
1:47:09PM MEDICAL LICENSE, I'M A PEDOPHILE, I'M A MAN WITH A TUCKED
1:47:14PM DICK, I F MY DOG, I'M INTERESTED IN VIEWING THEIR BEDROOM
1:47:14PM AND THEIR BIKINI-CLAD OFFSPRING.
1:47:19PM THEY DO NOT WHISPER THESE ACCUSATIONS TO ME.
1:47:21PM THEY LIE TO ANYONE WHO WILL LISTEN, OFTEN BIGOTS WHO HAVE NO
1:47:23PM WISH TO FACT CHECK.
1:47:25PM BY THEIR LIES, THEY RECRUIT ACCOMPLICES TO ATTACK ME AND
1:47:29PM WORK TOWARD THEIR GOAL OF GETTING ME LOCKED UP.
1:47:31PM THEY HAVE MADE COUNTLESS FALSE REPORTS ABOUT ME TO POLICE,
1:47:34PM CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL
1:47:35PM PROTECTION COMMISSION, THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH,
1:47:38PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ANIMAL SERVICES, OTHER OFFICIALS, THE
1:47:41PM HUMANE SOCIETY OF TAMPA BAY, AND LOCAL NEWS MEDIA.
1:47:45PM THEY HAVE ORCHESTRATED THREE FALSE CRIMINAL CASES THAT IN
1:47:47PM SPITE OF ZERO EVIDENCE WERE WELCOMED BY TAMPA POLICE AND
1:47:50PM ACCEPTED BY THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
1:47:52PM SO I HAD TO ATTEND COURT APPEARANCES UNTIL THE CASES WERE
1:47:55PM DROPPED.
1:47:56PM I HAD EXCULPATORY VIDEO IN ALL THREE CASES.
1:48:00PM I HOPE IT'S NOT CONSIDERED NORMAL IN TAMPA TO BE PROSECUTED
1:48:03PM WHEN YOU HAVE EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE THREE TIMES.
1:48:06PM I FAILED BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR SEVEN MONTHS IN 2021.
1:48:12PM DUE TO THEIR MALICIOUS LIES AND THE COOPERATION OF TAMPA
1:48:16PM POLICE.
1:48:16PM THE FIRST TIME TAMPA POLICE THREATENED TO TAKE ME INTO
1:48:19PM CUSTODY WAS SHORTLY BEFORE COVID VACCINES BECAME AVAILABLE.
1:48:22PM I HAD TO RESIST ARREST TO PRESERVE MY LIFE.
1:48:25PM THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE SUBSEQUENT THREATS OF ARREST AND
1:48:28PM THE MOST RECENT CONTACT WITH LOCAL COMMAND STAFF AND MOST
1:48:31PM PATROL OFFICERS HAVE CONSISTED OF EAGERNESS TO FIND FAULT
1:48:35PM WITH ME.
1:48:36PM WHEN THE WOMAN LIVE STREAMS FOOTAGE, SHE NARRATES FALSELY
1:48:40PM AND BRAGS ABOUT RECEIVING SOCIAL MEDIA RESPONSES FROM LAW
1:48:43PM ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SHE HAS FOOLED.
1:48:46PM THEY LIED ABOUT ME TO EACH HOUSEHOLD IN THE VICINITY.
1:48:49PM BODY-WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE I OBTAINED IN DISCOVERY FOR THE
1:48:53PM MOST RECENT FALSE CASE THEY SUCCESSFULLY ORCHESTRATED THEY
1:48:56PM ANNOUNCED ONE OF THE ACCOMPLISHED DESIRES OF THEIR CAMPAIGN
1:48:59PM AGAINST ME, A RELATIVE WHO OFTEN VISITS ONE OF THE DECEIVED
1:49:02PM NEIGHBORS CARRIES A GUN TO POTENTIALLY USE AGAINST ME.
1:49:04PM THE MAN ALSO EXPRESSED EAGER ANTICIPATION ABOUT OBTAINING A
1:49:08PM CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT TO HANDLE ME, FACING ZERO RIDICULE
1:49:12PM FOR THE AUDIENCE OF TAMPA POLICE OFFICERS.
1:49:14PM THE FAMILY HAS THREATENED TO CONFISCATE MY DOG AND EAGERLY
1:49:19PM INVENT COVER STORIES TO MAINTAIN THEIR RIDICULOUS ACCUSATION
1:49:22PM THAT I STOLE HIM.
1:49:23PM A YOUNG COUPLE WALKED BY SEARCHING FOR A CATHOOD STRAY.
1:49:27PM THE WOMAN NEXT DOOR CONVINCED I HAD TAKEN POSITION OF IT.
1:49:31PM THEY TURNED AGAINST ME.
1:49:33PM THE DECEIVED YOUNG MAN SPENT TIME SEATED IN FRONT OF MY
1:49:36PM HOUSE WITH TRIPOD AND VIDEO RECORDER TO HARASS AND FALSELY
1:49:39PM ACCUSE ME.
1:49:40PM HIS FRIEND CONTACTED ME ONLINE WITH A FALSE ACCUSATION.
1:49:44PM OTHER APPARENT ACCOMPLICES MONITORED MY HOUSE AFTER DARK
1:49:48PM WAITING FOR ME TO LEAVE.
1:49:49PM I DOUBLED BACK AND FOUND ONE APPROACHING MY WINDOW.
1:49:51PM SHE INSPIRED ANOTHER COUPLE WHO OCCASIONALLY WALKED DOGS
1:49:56PM DOWN THE BLOCK TO BEGIN YELLING AT ME AND MAKING PETTY FALSE
1:50:01PM ACCUSATIONS, MAKE FALSE REPORTS TO POLICE.
1:50:04PM MIDDLE AGED MAN WHO LIVES ALONE TO THE NORTHEAST
1:50:07PM COLLABORATES WITH THE PRIMARY AGGRESSOR.
1:50:10PM I'M SORRY.
1:50:19PM HE HAD EXPRESSED RESENTMENT AT ME FOR BRINGING CODE
1:50:31PM ENFORCEMENT AROUND AFTER NEXT DOOR HAD SUBMITTED COMPLAINTS
1:50:34PM ABOUT MY VIOLATIONS THEY CAUSED, CALLED ME THE N WORD AND
1:50:39PM SENDS UNWANTED PACKAGES LABELED WITH THE N WORD TO MY HOME.
1:50:42PM HE ACTIVATES ALARMS AND LIGHTS AND USES THE TWO WAY AUDIO
1:50:46PM CAPABILITY OF HIS FRONT YARD CAMERA TO SQUEAL CURSES WHEN
1:50:50PM I'M IN VIEW.
1:50:51PM AS MENTIONED, TAMPA POLICE AND CODE ENFORCEMENT HAVE
1:50:53PM COLLABORATED WITH HIM TO HARM MY PROPERTY AND FAMILY.
1:50:56PM I WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE TO WORK IN PEACE.
1:50:58PM CORROBORATING VIDEO IS AVAILABLE.
1:51:00PM I'M SURPRISED I HAVE TIME TO GET INTO WHY NOT OTHER
1:51:06PM MATERIALS.
1:51:07PM I REQUESTED PERMISSION FOR SIX FOOT CHAIN-LINK FENCE WITH
1:51:11PM THE OPTION OF SYNTHETIC PRIVACY SCREEN.
1:51:13PM A HEDGE IS NOT OPTIMAL BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE TIME TO GROW,
1:51:18PM WASTE A LOT OF SPACE AND WOULDN'T RELIABLY FORM A VISUAL
1:51:21PM BARRIER.
1:51:22PM THE PROBLEM FAMILY CRANE THEIR NECKS TO BE CONSPICUOUS ABOUT
1:51:26PM SEEKING ME.
1:51:27PM NORMAL PEOPLE WOULD ACCEPT AN ATTEMPT AT A VISUAL BARRIER AS
1:51:30PM A CUE TO NOT LOOK.
1:51:32PM THESE PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT.
1:51:34PM NOTHING WITH A GAP WILL SUFFICE.
1:51:37PM FURTHERMORE, KNOWN TO MANUALLY DESTROY AND REMOVE SOME OF
1:51:40PM THE PLANTS FROM MY PROPERTY AND KILL OTHERS BY APPLYING
1:51:43PM HERBICIDE TO MY PROPERTY.
1:51:45PM I STRONGLY PREFER VINES ON CHAIN-LINK BUT VINES WILL TAKE
1:51:48PM TIME TO BECOME A RELIABLE OR SOLID VISUAL BARRIER AND WILL
1:51:52PM BE SUSCEPTIBLE TO DESTRUCTION BY VANDALISM.
1:51:55PM THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THE OPTION OF THE SYNTHETIC
1:52:01PM PRIVACY FABRIC.
1:52:02PM I CANNOT WIELD WOOD PANELS MYSELF AND I PREFER TO DO ANY
1:52:08PM WORK MYSELF AS I'M STILL TRYING TO RECOVER FROM THE ECONOMIC
1:52:11PM SETBACKS I HAVE SUFFERED AS A RESULT OF LACK OF REASONABLE
1:52:15PM PROTECTION BY THE CITY, INCLUDING FINES FOR CITATIONS AND
1:52:18PM EARLIER PROLONGED LACK OF EMPLOYMENT DUE TO FAILING
1:52:21PM BACKGROUND CHECKS.
1:52:22PM A CHAIN-LINK FENCE ALSO HAS THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING LONGER
1:52:25PM LASTING, ALLOWING AIR CIRCULATION AND IF NATIVE VINES ARE
1:52:28PM ALLOWED TO COVER IT AND NOT DESTROYED BY THE MALICIOUS
1:52:31PM FAMILY IT WOULD BE MORE BEAUTIFUL AND MORE SUPPORTIVE OF
1:52:34PM BIRDS AND POLLINATORS THAN A WOOD FENCE.
1:52:37PM THAT CONCLUDES.
1:52:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:52:40PM DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS BEFORE WE
1:52:42PM BEGIN PUBLIC COMMENT?
1:52:44PM I HAD A QUESTION.
1:52:46PM IN ONE OF THE SCENES OF THE LASER BEING POINTED, AND SOMEONE
1:52:52PM IS FILMING.
1:52:54PM THE PERSON POINTING THE LASER.
1:52:56PM ARE THEY POINTING IT INTO A LIVING ROOM WINDOW?
1:52:59PM INTO A VEHICLE?
1:53:00PM >> I BACK INTO MY DRIVEWAY WHEN I RETURN -- I DRIVE OUT OF
1:53:05PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MY DOG TO HAVE A BETTER PLACE TO WALK
1:53:09PM HIM, AND WE RETURN -- THIS IS WHEN I WAS ABLE TO GO HOME.
1:53:13PM I WOULD RETURN HOME WITH HIM IN THE VEHICLE.
1:53:20PM HE RIDES -- HE DOESN'T RIDE BEHIND ME.
1:53:23PM SO I UNLOAD HIM FROM THAT SIDE.
1:53:25PM I BACK IN FOR THE PURPOSE OF UNLOADING HIM ON THE FAR SIDE,
1:53:29PM THE EAST SIDE OF MY CAR AND THAT LEAVES ME EXPOSED TO WHERE
1:53:36PM THEY ARE.
1:53:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR DRIVER'S WINDOW IS FACING THE
1:53:40PM NEIGHBOR'S.
1:53:41PM >> YEAH.
1:53:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES ANYBODY EVER WALK ON YOUR PROPERTY
1:53:44PM AND CROSS THE PROPERTY LINE OR DO THEY STAY ON THEIR
1:53:48PM PROPERTY AND YELL?
1:53:51PM >> THE CHAIN-LINK FENCE, THE TEMPORARY CHAIN-LINK FENCE THAT
1:53:55PM I HAVE THAT YOU SAW IN SOME OF THE PICTURES IS SET BACK FROM
1:53:59PM MY PROPERTY LINE BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS VANDALISM AND THEY HAVE
1:54:07PM CROSSED THE LINE THERE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY FENCE THAT'S
1:54:11PM SET BACK.
1:54:13PM THEY HAVE DESTROYED PLANTS FROM THAT SPACE, SO THERE THEY
1:54:17PM HAVE CROSSED THE LINE.
1:54:18PM THEY HAVEN'T DONE IT WHERE I HAVE CABLE FENCE UP WITH
1:54:22PM PRIVATE PROPERTY NO TRESPASSING SIGN ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY
1:54:27PM WHERE IT WOULD BE EASY TO DEMONSTRATE WITH THE CAMERA
1:54:29PM FOOTAGE.
1:54:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
1:54:30PM HOW LONG HAS THE FENCE BEEN UP?
1:54:32PM THE FIRST PHOTOS WE SAW WERE FROM LATE '21.
1:54:35PM NEXT THEY WERE FROM '22.
1:54:42PM >> ATTEMPT AT A VISUAL BARRIER, I HAD VARIOUS PLANTS OVER
1:54:47PM THERE, AND IT WASN'T UNTIL OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR THAT I WAS
1:54:52PM ABLE TO GET THE CHAIN-LINK UP WITH THE PRIVACY FABRIC ON IT.
1:54:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER YOU PUT THE FENCE UP, WERE YOU
1:55:00PM CITED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT?
1:55:01PM >> I HAVE BEEN, YEAH.
1:55:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:55:05PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:55:06PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WISH YOU WOULD
1:55:11PM HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SAY DURING THE PRIOR HEARING OR TO THE
1:55:15PM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR THAT YOU DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU WISH YOU
1:55:18PM COULD HAVE SAID THEN AS A REBUTTAL OR HAVE YOU SAID
1:55:22PM EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY?
1:55:25PM >> IT WAS JUST AN APPLICATION.
1:55:27PM IT WAS PAPER.
1:55:28PM THERE WASN'T A HEARING WITH THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
1:55:31PM I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SUBMIT VIDEO
1:55:35PM FOOTAGE.
1:55:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO SUBMIT THAT OR A VERBAL
1:55:38PM CONVERSATION.
1:55:39PM IT WAS JUST WRITTEN.
1:55:40PM >> IT WAS WRITTEN.
1:55:41PM TALKED AFTERWARDS.
1:55:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL
1:55:44PM AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
1:55:45PM IF YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ADDITIONAL AFTER, THERE'S FIVE
1:55:48PM MINUTES.
1:55:49PM >> THANK YOU.
1:55:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.
1:55:51PM IF THERE ARE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO
1:55:55PM PUBLIC COMMENT.
1:55:56PM IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE COME TO THE
1:55:59PM LECTERN AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
1:56:00PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:56:01PM I BELIEVE EVERYBODY WAS SWORN IN.
1:56:06PM IF YOU WEREN'T SWORN IN, LET US KNOW.
1:56:08PM >> TINA WYMAN.
1:56:10PM I LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO HER.
1:56:12PM FIRST AND FOREMOST THINGS STARTED JULY OF 2018.
1:56:20PM MY HUSBAND WAS ACTUALLY ASSAULTED BY THIS LADY.
1:56:23PM ON MAY 20th -- MAY 21st OF 2021, MY BROTHER HAD DIED THE
1:56:32PM DAY PREVIOUSLY.
1:56:32PM MY MOM FOUR WEEKS PRIOR TO THAT.
1:56:35PM THIS WOMAN CAME UP TO -- CAME ACROSS THE STREET, CAME DOWN
1:56:41PM THE ROAD TO DISCUSS HER BEHAVIOR TO MY DAUGHTER, WITH MY
1:56:46PM DAUGHTER.
1:56:46PM THIS IS THE DAY AFTER MY BROTHER DIED, FOUR WEEKS PRIOR MY
1:56:51PM MOM DIED.
1:56:52PM I'M NOT SURE ABOUT HER DATES.
1:56:54PM WE DON'T VANDALIZE PROPERTY.
1:56:58PM WE HAVE -- I GREW UP IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:57:01PM I'VE LIVED IN THAT AREA SINCE I WAS 13 YEARS OLD.
1:57:05PM I AM NOT GOING TO RUIN OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
1:57:10PM WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR HOME.
1:57:12PM I TAKE PRIDE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:57:17PM I WENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH MEETING THAT I WAS FOLLOWED
1:57:23PM OUT.
1:57:23PM MY HUSBAND WAS FOLLOWED OUT AND JERRY WILLIAMS WAS THERE AS
1:57:26PM WELL.
1:57:27PM THAT WAS ON JANUARY 10th.
1:57:30PM JANUARY 25th, I WAS FOLLOWED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF
1:57:33PM THIS YEAR.
1:57:34PM JANUARY 31st, FOLLOWED TO TPD -- YEAH, TAMPA FIRE
1:57:39PM DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
1:57:42PM I COULD GO ROUND AND ROUND ABOUT THIS, BUT I WOULD NEVER
1:57:52PM THREATEN SOMEONE.
1:57:56PM I'M EXTREMELY UPSET BECAUSE I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS SO
1:58:00PM LONG.
1:58:00PM BEAR WITH ME JUST A MOMENT.
1:58:02PM LIKE I SAID, WE COULD GO ON AND ON, BUT I ONLY HAVE THREE
1:58:06PM MINUTES.
1:58:07PM THIS FENCE IS AN EYESORE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:58:10PM THE FRONT HEDGE IS AN EYESORE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:58:14PM AND TO DEAL WITH THIS FOR FIVE YEARS AND AS FAR AS MY BIKINI
1:58:22PM BARING DAUGHTER, SHE RECORDS OVER THE FENCE WITH A CAMERA.
1:58:25PM MY HUSBAND GOES ON THE ROOF TO DECORATE FOR CHRISTMAS.
1:58:30PM THAT'S WHY MY HUSBAND GOES ON THE ROOF AND MY DAUGHTERS GO
1:58:34PM ON THE ROOF TO DO OUR LIGHTS.
1:58:36PM I'M NOT SURE -- MY LADDER SITS AGAINST MY FENCE, AND I WOULD
1:58:39PM HAVE TO PUT -- I'M DONE.
1:58:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
1:58:43PM GO AHEAD.
1:58:43PM >> I WOULD HAVE TO PUT UMBRELLAS TO HIDE ALL THE CAMERAS
1:58:48PM THAT SHE HAD.
1:58:50PM AND FOR MY HUSBAND TO BE ASSAULTED BY THIS WOMAN ON
1:58:53PM JANUARY 2ND OF 2021 ON THE STREET WITH NEIGHBORS THAT CANNOT
1:58:58PM COME BECAUSE NEIGHBORS HAVE JOBS, AND WE HAVE ELDERLY
1:59:02PM NEIGHBORS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ELSE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN
1:59:05PM HERE.
1:59:05PM LIKE I SAID, WE COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE,
1:59:08PM BUT TODAY IS ABOUT THE FENCE.
1:59:11PM THE EYESORE.
1:59:13PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:59:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:59:14PM THE ISSUE HERE -- IF THE -- THE ISSUE HERE IS IF THE FENCE
1:59:20PM MEETS CODE OR NOT.
1:59:21PM I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE A LOT OF DETAILS.
1:59:22PM WHAT WE'RE BASING IT ON IS CODE AND THE FENCE.
1:59:25PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:59:26PM >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
1:59:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.
1:59:28PM YES, MA'AM.
1:59:33PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:59:34PM >> BARBARA FELICIANO.
1:59:36PM RECENTLY I MOVED BACK INTO A HOME THAT WE PURCHASED IN 1966.
1:59:44PM BEING ELDERLY, I NEED TO WALK THE BLOCK.
1:59:47PM OUR STREETCARS GO 40 AND 50 MILES AN HOUR UP AND DOWN SO I'M
1:59:52PM AFRAID TO WALK ON 97th, WHICH IS ONE BLOCK TO THE NORTH OF
1:59:59PM OKARA.
2:00:00PM I WALK TO OKARA BECAUSE WE ARE THE CORNER HOUSE AND GO DOWN
2:00:03PM 29th, THERE IS A SIDEWALK ON OKARA.
2:00:06PM SO I WALK DOWN TWO HOUSES AND THERE IS THIS BIG OBSTRUCTION.
2:00:12PM AND YOU GET PANICKY.
2:00:14PM I CAN'T WALK PAST THAT HOUSE BECAUSE THE TREES COME OVER
2:00:19PM INTO THE SIDEWALK SO BADLY AND YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT'S THERE
2:00:24PM AHEAD OF YOU BECAUSE OF THE OBSTRUCTIVE FENCE.
2:00:28PM THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO SAY AND PROTEST ABOUT.
2:00:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:00:32PM IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC
2:00:35PM COMMENT?
2:00:35PM WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY REGISTERED.
2:00:38PM SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK?
2:00:39PM PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
2:00:52PM >> I'M WILLIAM STAGG.
2:00:54PM I LIVE AT 8055 ROGERS PLACE IN ZEPHYRHILLS.
2:01:00PM I CO-OWN THE HOUSE WITH TAZIA.
2:01:04PM THE HEDGES THAT THE LADY JUST SPOKE ABOUT HAVE BEEN TRIMMED.
2:01:13PM THEY ARE NO LONGER OVER THE SIDEWALK.
2:01:15PM I DID IT PERSONALLY.
2:01:17PM TAZIA HAS LIVED WHERE SHE HAS FOR 20 YEARS.
2:01:25PM THE FIRST 16 WERE FINE.
2:01:27PM SOMETHING HAPPENED.
2:01:29PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT.
2:01:32PM BUT THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH ANIMOSITY COMING FROM 2903.
2:01:38PM WHEN SHE FIRST NOTICED IT AFTER A THING WAS POSTED ON
2:01:50PM FACEBOOK OF HER BEING DRAGGED BY HER DOG AND EVERYBODY MADE
2:01:55PM FUN, INCLUDING THE POLICE, HER NEIGHBOR POSTED, SHE
2:02:02PM CONVINCED ME THAT SHE WAS AFRAID.
2:02:06PM SO I BUILT A SIX-FOOT WOODEN FENCE, A LEGAL FENCE THAT GO TO
2:02:16PM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
2:02:17PM I WANTED TO FINISH IT HAVING PUT THE FINISHED SIDE TOWARD
2:02:23PM THE NEIGHBORS.
2:02:25PM I COULD DO ALL THE WORK ON MY SIDE PUTTING THE PANELS UP.
2:02:30PM ANYWAY, WHEN I STARTED TO, THEY SAID THAT I WAS TRESPASSING
2:02:35PM AND THEY CALLED THE POLICE.
2:02:37PM AND THIS IS THE WAY IT IS NOW.
2:02:39PM IF I HAPPEN TO JUST STEP OVER THERE ON THE SIDEWALK, THEY
2:02:45PM CALL THE POLICE.
2:02:46PM THE POLICE HAVE BEEN CALLED NUMEROUS TIMES FOR NO REASON
2:02:50PM OTHER THAN I JUST CLUMSILY STEPPED OVER MOWING OR WHATEVER
2:02:57PM I'M DOING.
2:02:58PM IT'S JUST HARASSMENT.
2:03:02PM I WAS A UNION LEADER.
2:03:04PM I WAS A CHURCH LEADER.
2:03:06PM I WAS A -- I'VE HEARD ALL KINDS OF LANGUAGE, BUT THE
2:03:12PM LANGUAGE THAT COMES FROM THAT SIDE IS UNFATHOMABLE.
2:03:17PM THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.
2:03:20PM THANK YOU.
2:03:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
2:03:22PM ANYBODY ELSE?
2:03:23PM IF NOT, AT THIS TIME, IF THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL STAFF
2:03:27PM COMMENT, I WILL GO TO -- YES, SIR.
2:03:31PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:03:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE TESTIMONY THAT WAS JUST GIVEN WAS MOSTLY
2:03:45PM BY THE -- BY THE WITNESSES WAS ABOUT THE CONFLICT BETWEEN
2:03:49PM THE NEIGHBORS.
2:03:50PM BUT NONE OF THAT IS ADMISSIBLE REGARDING THESE STANDARDS,
2:03:54PM RIGHT?
2:03:54PM I DON'T SEE IN THESE STANDARDS LIKE A HARDSHIP CLAUSE OR
2:03:59PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
2:04:00PM IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT A CONFLICT BETWEEN NEIGHBORS THAT IS
2:04:10PM AN ACCEPTABLE REASON TO ACCEPT OR DENY?
2:04:13PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY
2:04:15PM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
2:04:16PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THE CRITERIA THAT STAFF USES TO
2:04:18PM DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT TO APPROVE OR DENY A DESIGN
2:04:21PM EXCEPTION, ALTERNATIVE DESIGN EXCEPTION FOUND IN 27-60
2:04:25PM SUBSECTION E, SUBSECTION 5.
2:04:28PM THE CATEGORIES ARE A THROUGH F.
2:04:31PM IF YOU TURN ON THE BACK SIDE.
2:04:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THAT.
2:04:35PM MY POINT IS, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE THAT I CAN FIND THAT
2:04:37PM IS APPLICABLE IN THIS SITUATION WHERE NEIGHBORS HAVE A
2:04:42PM CONFLICT.
2:04:43PM AM I CORRECT?
2:04:43PM I DON'T SEE ANYTHING THAT DIRECTLY TIES TO THAT.
2:04:46PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S SPECIFIC IN
2:04:49PM THIS CODE SECTION THAT TALKS ABOUT CONFLICTS BETWEEN
2:04:51PM NEIGHBORS.
2:04:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT PERSONAL SAFETY
2:04:54PM EITHER.
2:04:56PM THE REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS TO SEE IF I MISSED SOMETHING.
2:05:00PM IT TALKS ABOUT -- IT DOESN'T SAY THAT AN EXCEPTION WOULD BE
2:05:07PM SOMEBODY'S -- WELL, NUMBER 6 SAYS, PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY,
2:05:13PM GENERAL WELFARE.
2:05:16PM IS THAT PART NUMBER 6 APPLICABLE IN DISCUSSING A CONFLICT?
2:05:23PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT IS REGARDING CONDITIONS IF
2:05:25PM CITY COUNCIL SO DESIRES TO APPROVE THE DESIGN EXCEPTION,
2:05:30PM SUBSECTION 6 TALKS ABOUT CONDITIONS THAT CAN BE PLACED UPON
2:05:35PM ANY APPROVAL.
2:05:36PM BUT THE CRITERIA SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED IN SUBSECTION 5.
2:05:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:05:42PM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
2:05:44PM YES, SIR.
2:05:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KIND OF CONCUR WITH THE REMARK THAT THE
2:05:49PM CHAIRMAN MADE EARLIER ABOUT WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BASED
2:05:54PM ON CITY COUNCIL CODE.
2:05:57PM WHILE THERE ARE SOME PROVISIONS THERE, IT APPEARS TO ME MOST
2:06:00PM OF THE TESTIMONY TODAY WAS MORE PERTINENT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT
2:06:03PM AND CODE ENFORCEMENT AND NOT NECESSARILY CITY CODE, PROPER
2:06:10PM PLACEMENT OF THE FENCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:06:11PM THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN IS THAT MOST OF THE TESTIMONY WE
2:06:22PM HEARD TODAY WAS ABOUT, AT LEAST IN MY MIND, WHAT I HEARD
2:06:26PM TODAY WAS ABOUT THINGS THAT INVOLVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CODE
2:06:28PM ENFORCEMENT.
2:06:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
2:06:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M NOT SURE IF THE DESIGN EXCEPTION IS
2:06:42PM GOING TO SOLVE THIS COMMUNITY NEIGHBOR PROBLEM, WHETHER WE
2:06:51PM DECIDE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
2:06:56PM I'M JUST GOING TO BE QUIET FROM THIS POINT AND JUST LISTEN
2:07:04PM TO THE REBUTTAL AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
2:07:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:07:08PM ANYBODY ELSE?
2:07:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M LOOKING AT THIS AND SAYING THAT THIS
2:07:18PM IS REALLY NOT AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
2:07:22PM A LOT OF THIS GOING ON, MAYBE NOT TO THIS DEGREE, IN EVERY
2:07:25PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:07:25PM PEOPLE FOR WHATEVER REASON CAN'T GET ALONG.
2:07:28PM THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
2:07:29PM IT'S NOT ABOUT THE FENCE.
2:07:30PM I CAN BUILD A WALL 20 FEET HIGH AND STILL NOT BE HAPPY,
2:07:34PM EITHER ONE OF YOU.
2:07:35PM THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE AND I'M NOT SURE IF A
2:07:43PM FENCE IS GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING
2:07:46PM FROM SIX FEET TO TEN FEET.
2:07:49PM SIZE OF FENCE, FOUR FEET?
2:08:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU COULD COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
2:08:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT IS THE HEIGHT OF THE FENCE NOW?
2:08:07PM >> THERE IS A CORRECTION.
2:08:10PM I THINK MAYBE MY PINK LINE THAT I DREW WASN'T CLEAR.
2:08:14PM MAYBE IT'S NOT OBVIOUS BECAUSE I ALREADY HAVE A SIX-FOOT
2:08:17PM FENCE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, BUT I'M REQUESTING
2:08:22PM THE SIX-FOOT PRIVACY FENCE FOR THE PURPOSE OF BEING A VISUAL
2:08:26PM BARRIER AROUND THE WHOLE FRONT YARD BECAUSE NOW SHE COMES
2:08:29PM FROM THE EAST SIDE.
2:08:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HIGHER THAN THE ALLOWABLE BY LAW.
2:08:32PM LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION AND TO MYSELF.
2:08:35PM BEFORE THE FENCE WAS UP, WAS THIS STILL GOING ON BEFORE THE
2:08:38PM FENCE WENT UP?
2:08:39PM FENCE WENT UP FOR A REASON.
2:08:40PM PUT UP A FENCE AND STILL GOING ON.
2:08:43PM >> I ONLY PUT IT UP ALONG THE WEST SIDE AND THEY COME TO
2:08:48PM WHERE THEY CAN SEE ME.
2:08:51PM I THINK HAVING IT AROUND THE REST OF THE FRONT YARD WILL
2:08:56PM GIVE ME SOME SENSE -- LIKE I SAID, I NEED TO BE OUT OF VIEW
2:09:00PM BECAUSE WHENEVER I'M IN VIEW --
2:09:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T WANT THIS GOVERNMENT TO BE HELD
2:09:06PM RESPONSIBLE FOR SOME ACT ON EITHER SIDE, WHATEVER THE ACT
2:09:10PM MAY BE.
2:09:11PM AND I DON'T KNOW IF A FENCE IS GOING TO SOLVE THAT ACT OR
2:09:14PM NOT, I'LL BE HONEST.
2:09:15PM I'M SPEAKING TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
2:09:23PM THIS IS A CASE THAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE HANDLED BY LAW
2:09:26PM ENFORCEMENT ON SOMETHING THAT WE -- ONE OR THE OTHER, SOONER
2:09:32PM OR LATER, IF IT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE THE FENCE, PUT THE
2:09:36PM FENCE UP, NOW IT'S STILL HAPPENING, SO WHERE DO WE COME TO A
2:09:40PM CONCLUSION OF FACT OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOUR LIFE OR
2:09:43PM THEIR LIFESTYLE, BOTH LIFESTYLES.
2:09:46PM I NEVER HAD THAT PROBLEM WITH MY NEIGHBORS.
2:09:50PM SOME I HAVEN'T TALKED TO IN A WHILE BECAUSE I'M NEVER HOME,
2:09:54PM I GUESS.
2:09:54PM BUT THE PROBLEM IN TODAY'S SOCIETY, YOU ASK SOMEBODY, WHAT'S
2:10:00PM YOUR NEIGHBOR'S NAME, THEY DON'T KNOW.
2:10:02PM IN THIS CASE THEY KNOW.
2:10:03PM YOU KNOW THEM AND THEY KNOW YOU.
2:10:05PM THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO HAPPEN BUT IT IS IN CONFLICT INSTEAD
2:10:07PM OF BEING JOYFUL AND UNDERSTANDING OF LIFE.
2:10:11PM THAT'S WHAT WORRIES ME.
2:10:12PM THE FENCE -- IT IS THE ACT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WORRIES
2:10:17PM ME.
2:10:17PM I DON'T WANT THIS TO GO PAST -- I DON'T WANT TO SEE OUR
2:10:22PM POLICE CHIEF COME HERE AND SAY LOOK WHAT HAPPENED ON EITHER
2:10:25PM SIDE.
2:10:25PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ACT WE COULD TAKE TO PROTECT THE LIVES OF
2:10:36PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OF THE FOUR OF YOU HERE TODAY.
2:10:38PM THAT'S WHAT IT AMOUNTS TO.
2:10:39PM FROM WHAT I SEE, THERE'S SOMETHING FEELING OTHER THAN JUST
2:10:46PM LIGHTS AND HARASSMENT AND WHATEVER.
2:10:48PM THERE'S SOMETHING MORE TO THIS THAN WHAT I'VE HEARD.
2:10:52PM THERE'S GOT TO BE.
2:10:53PM NOBODY IS GOING TO DO THIS TYPE OF HARASSING OR WHATEVER YOU
2:10:57PM WANT TO CALL IT JUST FOR FUN.
2:10:59PM THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
2:10:59PM WATCHING MOBY DICK BECOME A WHALE, THIS IS SOMETHING COLUMBO
2:11:07PM WOULD SAY, I'M SORRY IT HAPPENED, BUT IT HAPPENED, MA'AM.
2:11:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS
2:11:16PM BEFORE WE GO TO REBUTTAL?
2:11:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
2:11:19PM THAT'S ABOUT IT.
2:11:19PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:11:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL GO TO REBUTTAL.
2:11:22PM YES, MA'AM.
2:11:22PM YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES TO RESPOND.
2:11:25PM >> I'VE PONDERED THE SAME AND I WOULD LOVE TO IMPROVE LAW
2:11:30PM ENFORCEMENT AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.
2:11:32PM I WOULD LOVE TO BE INVOLVED WITH MAKING THAT WORK BETTER.
2:11:36PM IT'S HEARSAY LIKE MUCH OF WHAT SHE SAID WAS, BUT THERE IS A
2:11:44PM CLUE.
2:11:45PM SOMEBODY ON NEXT DOOR THAT CLAIMED TO BE ACQUAINTED WITH
2:11:48PM THEM SAID THAT THEY DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S -- HOW DID THEY SAY
2:11:54PM IT -- IT'S FUN TO MESS WITH HER.
2:11:57PM IT'S FUN TO MESS WITH ME.
2:11:59PM I'M NOT LIKE THAT.
2:12:03PM THIS IS A ONE-WAY THING.
2:12:06PM IT'S NOT COMING FROM ME.
2:12:07PM IT'S ALL COMING AT ME.
2:12:09PM I LIVE ALONE.
2:12:10PM I'M NOT GOING TO GO PICK A FIGHT.
2:12:12PM I'M NOT AN UNREASONABLE PERSON.
2:12:17PM I JUST WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE AND BE FREE TO DO WORK, MAKE
2:12:21PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD A BETTER PLACE.
2:12:24PM AND THERE WAS A LOT OF ACCUSATIONS IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:12:31PM SHE MENTIONED THAT THINGS STARTED IN JULY 2018.
2:12:35PM SOMETHING THAT DID ACTUALLY HAPPEN IN JULY 2018 IS THEY
2:12:37PM FOUND OUT I REPORTED A BACKYARD FIRE OF THEIRS TO THE FIRE
2:12:41PM DEPARTMENT.
2:12:42PM THIS SEEMS OUT OF PROPORTION TO RETALIATE FOR THAT.
2:12:46PM BUT EVERYTHING POINTS TO THAT.
2:12:48PM BODY WORN CAMERA FOOTAGE SHE ALSO REFERENCED JULY 2018.
2:12:55PM SHE CLAIMED THAT'S WHEN I LOST MY MEDICAL LICENSE AND THINGS
2:12:58PM STARTED GOING DOWNHILL.
2:13:00PM I NEVER LOST A MEDICAL LICENSE.
2:13:02PM THAT'S WHAT SHE CONVINCED THE POLICE WAS THE STORY BEHIND
2:13:06PM WHAT'S GOING ON.
2:13:07PM THEY ARE ALL EAGER TO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG
2:13:09PM WITH ME.
2:13:10PM IT'S REALLY JUST THE ABNORMALITIES OF WHAT YOU SEE IN THE
2:13:16PM FOOTAGE.
2:13:17PM I HAVE FOOTAGE NOT ON ME AND DON'T HAVE TIME TO PRESENT, BUT
2:13:21PM I HAVE FOOTAGE TO REBUT MUCH OF THE CLAIMS SHE MADE.
2:13:25PM THE FENCE, THE UNLAWFULLY TALL FOR THE FRONT YARD PORTION OF
2:13:34PM THE FENCE THAT IS UP JUST BECAUSE I NEEDED A VISUAL BARRIER,
2:13:40PM THAT HAS HELPED.
2:13:42PM LIKE I SAID, THEY MOVED THEIR PERFORMANCES NORTH AND EAST IN
2:13:46PM RESPONSE TO THAT BEING THERE.
2:13:48PM IF I COMPLETE THE VISUAL BARRIER, I POTENTIALLY COULD BE
2:13:53PM LEFT ALONE IN THE FRONT YARD.
2:13:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION, IF I MAY.
2:13:58PM HOW DID THIS COME ABOUT THAT WE HAVE A HEARING TODAY THAT
2:14:02PM SOMEBODY -- DID SOMEBODY CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT ON THE FENCE?
2:14:07PM >> I REQUESTED PERMISSION AFTER ERECTING THAT -- I REQUESTED
2:14:14PM PERMISSION --
2:14:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE IS A LAW THAT CAME INTO EFFECT I
2:14:17PM THINK IN JULY THAT IF SOMEBODY CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT ON
2:14:21PM THE FENCE, BY LAW YOU HAVE TO TELL THEM WHO CALLED ON THE
2:14:25PM FENCE.
2:14:25PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT EVER HAPPENED OR NOT.
2:14:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AS FAR AS I KNOW --
2:14:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO FIND OUT EXACTLY.
2:14:35PM I'M TRYING TO SOLVE A PROBLEM.
2:14:37PM I DON'T WANT IT TO GET OUT OF HAND BECAUSE THE WAY IT LOOKS,
2:14:41PM LITTLE KID SAYING HI, HOW ARE YOU, I'M GOING TO WHIP YOU AND
2:14:44PM ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
2:14:45PM THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON HERE THAT I CAN'T QUITE PUT
2:14:48PM TOGETHER.
2:14:49PM THAT'S WHAT I'M BOTHERED BY.
2:14:51PM BOTHERED BY THE HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE OF ALL OF YOU.
2:14:55PM I WANT TO FIND OUT IF CODE ENFORCEMENT RECEIVED THIS OR FIND
2:15:00PM IT OUT ON THEIR OWN THEMSELVES AND WHOEVER IT WAS, MY OFFICE
2:15:03PM CALLED IT IN, SOMEBODY'S OFFICE CALLED IT IN UNLESS IT WAS
2:15:07PM CALLED IN BY A PARTICULAR PERSON AND THEY HAVE TO BY LAW
2:15:10PM TELL YOU WHO CALLED.
2:15:14PM >> THE FAMILY NEXT DOOR HAS MADE -- AT THE TIME THAT I
2:15:18PM REQUESTED RECORDS BECAUSE THE MANAGER OF CODE ENFORCEMENT
2:15:23PM CLAIMED THAT WHEN HE ANNIHILATED THE PLANTS IN MY
2:15:28PM RIGHT-OF-WAY, THAT HE'S DONE THAT TWICE, THAT DIDN'T HELP
2:15:32PM THE SITUATION.
2:15:33PM HE CLAIMED WHEN I ASKED WHY THEY HAD DONE THAT, HE CLAIMED
2:15:38PM THERE HAD BEEN SO MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT MY PROPERTY.
2:15:41PM I MADE A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, AND THERE HAD BEEN ONE
2:15:44PM COMPLAINT DOCUMENTED FROM THIS FAMILY AT THAT TIME.
2:15:48PM ONE OF THE INVESTIGATIONS THAT RESULTED FROM THE -- THAT
2:15:55PM COMPLAINT THAT THEY HAD MADE, THERE WERE NO FINDINGS BECAUSE
2:15:58PM THEY WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF MY HEDGE IN THE
2:16:01PM FRONT YARD.
2:16:01PM SHE SAID THAT THE HEDGE IS AN EYESORE.
2:16:05PM ONE OF THE RECENT CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SAID WHAT A
2:16:07PM BEAUTIFUL HEDGE.
2:16:10PM AND NOW THE CITY DEPARTMENTS -- PRELIMINARILY THE HEDGE WAS
2:16:20PM APPROVED BUT NOW THEY FOUND A WAY TO MAKE THAT A VIOLATION,
2:16:25PM TOO.
2:16:25PM IT'S REALLY BURDENSOME AND UNAFFORDABLE FOR ME TO ATTEND
2:16:29PM SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARINGS FOR FALSE CODE ENFORCEMENT
2:16:33PM ACCUSATIONS.
2:16:34PM REALLY BURDENSOME.
2:16:35PM I REALLY NEED TO BE RECOVERING FROM ECONOMIC DAMAGE THAT'S
2:16:38PM ALREADY BEEN DONE.
2:16:39PM I'M SORRY.
2:16:40PM THAT'S A TANGENT.
2:16:41PM IF THEY EVER MAKE DESIGN EXCEPTIONS CONSIDERING
2:16:45PM CIRCUMSTANCES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE GRANT SPECIAL
2:16:53PM PERMISSION.
2:16:54PM I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE LANGUAGE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES.
2:16:58PM ALSO IN RESPONSE TO THE SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT, THE TREES AND
2:17:05PM FENCE HAVE NOT EVER BLOCKED THE SIDEWALK.
2:17:09PM I GUESS IT'S A FEELING OF OBSTRUCTION THAT SHE WAS
2:17:14PM EXPRESSING, BUT CERTAINLY HASN'T BEEN A FENCE OVER THE
2:17:17PM SIDEWALK AND HAVEN'T HAD A TREE OVER THE SIDEWALK.
2:17:19PM I'M NOT TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH SOMETHING.
2:17:23PM I'M JUST TRYING TO BE LEFT ALONE AND WORK.
2:17:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
2:17:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MS. PETTIS-MACKLE, CAN YOU PLEASE COME UP AND
2:17:38PM BRING -- MAYBE IT WAS PART OF THE PRESENTATION, I THINK,
2:17:42PM FROM EARLIER.
2:17:43PM STAFF HAD SOME PHOTOS THAT I'D LIKE THEM TO BRING BACK UP OR
2:17:50PM IF YOU HAVE THEM.
2:17:55PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY
2:17:56PM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
2:17:57PM IF MS. MARLEY CAN -- SHE SHOULD STILL BE ON.
2:18:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
2:18:03PM GREAT.
2:18:03PM IF SHE COULD GO FORWARD ONE MORE.
2:18:11PM ONE MORE.
2:18:11PM JUST THE PHOTOS.
2:18:17PM FORWARD.
2:18:18PM OKAY.
2:18:21PM KEEP GOING.
2:18:22PM THE ONE BEFORE IT AND THIS ONE, IF YOU COULD GO BACK ONE
2:18:31PM PHOTO, PLEASE.
2:18:32PM SO I SEE THE HEDGE AND THE FENCE LINE.
2:18:40PM SO THE FENCE DOESN'T EVEN GO CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALK AND THE
2:18:49PM RIGHT-OF-WAY.
2:18:49PM ABOUT HOW FAR IS IT FROM THE END OF YOUR FENCE TO THE
2:18:53PM SIDEWALK?
2:18:55PM >> MAYBE TEN FEET.
2:18:56PM IT'S SET BACK A LITTLE BIT FROM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
2:19:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DOES THE RIGHT-OF-WAY BEGIN AT THE SIDEWALK?
2:19:05PM >> THE RIGHT-OF-WAY GOES ALL THE WAY -- THE HEDGE IS IN THE
2:19:09PM RIGHT-OF-WAY.
2:19:10PM THOSE POSTS ALONG THE FRONT ARE SET BACK A LITTLE BIT FROM
2:19:15PM THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
2:19:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE POST IN THE FRONT IS BASICALLY THE
2:19:19PM RIGHT-OF-WAY, GIVE OR TAKE.
2:19:21PM SO YOUR GOAL IS TO PUT A FENCE THERE?
2:19:24PM >> YES.
2:19:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
2:19:26PM NOW I CAN VISUALLY SEE IT.
2:19:28PM BUT THE HEDGE HAS BEEN TRIMMED?
2:19:32PM >> IT'S BEEN TRIMMED, AS WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S REQUIRED.
2:19:39PM BUT CODE ENFORCEMENT -- I'M SORRY.
2:19:44PM MAYBE THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT, HAS ANOTHER DEMAND.
2:19:49PM THEY WANT TO DESCRIBE THIS AS AN INTERSECTION SO THAT CAN BE
2:19:53PM REQUIRED -- THAT FIRST ONE WOULD BE DESTROYED BY WHAT THEY
2:19:57PM ARE DEMANDING.
2:19:58PM THE HEDGE IS NOT A RELIABLE VISUAL BARRIER BECAUSE CODE
2:20:02PM ENFORCEMENT IS PROBABLY GOING TO CUT THAT DOWN.
2:20:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
2:20:05PM SO THANK YOU.
2:20:06PM I APPRECIATE IT.
2:20:08PM THAT HELPS.
2:20:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
2:20:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
2:20:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
2:20:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
2:20:21PM >> THAT'S ONE OF THE STORIES.
2:20:22PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS COMES FROM.
2:20:23PM I HAVE A MEDICAL LICENSE.
2:20:24PM I'VE HAD LICENSES IN OTHER STATES WHERE I WORKED.
2:20:27PM BUT I'VE NEVER LOST A MEDICAL LICENSE.
2:20:29PM THAT'S JUST ONE OF THE THINGS --
2:20:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THOUGHT YOU SAID LOST MY LICENSE.
2:20:34PM I'M SORRY.
2:20:35PM >> THAT'S PART OF THE FALSE NARRATIVE IS -- IT'S -- THE LIES
2:20:40PM ARE AMAZING.
2:20:42PM I CAN'T BELIEVE THE STORIES THAT I'VE HEARD TOLD ABOUT ME.
2:20:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
2:20:45PM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO ADD?
2:20:47PM IF NOT, WE WILL ASK TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
2:20:51PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:20:55PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:20:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:20:57PM AYE.
2:20:58PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
2:21:00PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:21:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M GOING TO TRY SOMETHING.
2:21:06PM I'LL JUST SAY IT AND THEN WE CAN HAVE RESPONSES.
2:21:11PM IF I CAN GET A SECOND.
2:21:14PM I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL OF DE
2:21:31PM 1-23-45 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2905 EAST OKARA ROAD
2:21:37PM BECAUSE THE PETITIONER PROVIDED COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL
2:21:40PM EVIDENCE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE FENCE AND WALL REGULATIONS
2:21:43PM IN CITY OF TAMPA CODE 27-190.1 SUBSET E, SUBSET 1 SHOULD BE
2:21:52PM WAIVED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS: THAT THE EXCEPTION
2:21:57PM NEITHER INTERFERES WITH THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS AS PROVIDED IN
2:22:00PM THIS CHAPTER NOR IS INJURIOUS TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY,
2:22:04PM OR GENERAL WELFARE.
2:22:06PM AND FOR ME, THE REASONING BEHIND THAT IS THIS PHOTO THAT WE
2:22:10PM WERE SHOWN ON HOW THE RIGHT-OF-WAY IS ACTUALLY FAR OFF THE
2:22:15PM SIDEWALK SO THAT THIS FENCE WOULD NOT INJURE OR GET IN THE
2:22:20PM WAY OF OTHER PEOPLE'S PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY.
2:22:24PM I FEEL LIKE THAT LINE IS QUITE FAR AWAY FROM THE SIDEWALK.
2:22:28PM AND THAT THE EXCEPTION -- AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A
2:22:42PM CONDITION.
2:22:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY --
2:22:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
2:22:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET ME JUST FINISH THIS, AND THEN WE ALSO
2:22:53PM HAVE TO -- WE MIGHT HAVE TO REOPEN TO SEE IF THE PETITIONER
2:22:55PM IS OKAY WITH THIS.
2:22:56PM BASICALLY, A REASONABLE CONDITION BEING UPON THE SALE OF THE
2:23:01PM PROPERTY THE FENCE WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN DOWN.
2:23:04PM I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AS IS.
2:23:12PM I'M JUST GOING TO LEAVE IT AS IS, THAT THE EXCEPTION NEITHER
2:23:16PM INTERFERES WITH THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS AS PROVIDED IN THE
2:23:18PM CHAPTER NOR IS INJURIOUS TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, OR
2:23:22PM GENERAL WELFARE.
2:23:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'LL SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
2:23:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
2:23:26PM HENDERSON.
2:23:26PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN -- I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER
2:23:29PM CARLSON, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND.
2:23:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD JUST ADD, AGAIN FROM 27-60, I ALSO
2:23:33PM WOULD ADD THAT THE EXCEPTION PROVIDES A REASONABLE ALLOWANCE
2:23:37PM UNDER THE SPECIFIED --
2:23:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ACCEPT THAT.
2:23:41PM SO THAT'S B, E SUBSET 5 SUBSET B.
2:23:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE EXCEPTION ACHIEVES THE GENERAL INTENT OF
2:23:48PM CHAPTER 27-60.
2:23:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ACCEPT YOUR AMENDMENTS.
2:23:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:23:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHEN I LISTEN
2:23:55PM TO SOMETHING, BOY, DID I HEAR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
2:23:58PM BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE CODES AND WE HAVE STANDARDS
2:24:04PM LIVING IN A CONGESTED URBAN AREA.
2:24:06PM IT'S KIND OF LIKE A SOCIAL CONTRACT BETWEEN NEIGHBORS AND
2:24:09PM HOW WE DEVELOP OUR COMMUNITIES AND STANDARDS THAT WE LIVE
2:24:12PM BY.
2:24:12PM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN YOU PROJECT BEYOND THE FRONT
2:24:17PM FACADE OF A HOME, YOU HAVE TO STEP DOWN THOSE FENCES TO
2:24:20PM THREE FEET IF THEY ARE OPAQUE AND FOUR FEET I THINK IF THEY
2:24:25PM ARE NOT OPAQUE, IF THEY ARE CLEAR.
2:24:27PM AND THAT IS THE SOCIAL STANDARD.
2:24:31PM THAT IS WHAT WE LIVE BY.
2:24:33PM IT'S NOT JUST ONE HOUSE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:24:35PM THERE ARE MULTIPLE HOUSES.
2:24:38PM THE IMPACT THAT WAIVING THIS CODE JUST FOR ONE IS REALLY
2:24:46PM IMPACTING MANY.
2:24:47PM I WOULD DISAGREE WITH THE ASSESSMENT THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE A
2:24:50PM NEGATIVE IMPACT.
2:24:51PM BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE BOUGHT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD,
2:24:53PM UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE CODE IS AND UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE
2:24:56PM EXPECTATIONS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS.
2:24:58PM I THINK IT WOULD BE WRONG FOR US TO NOT ENFORCE OUR OWN
2:25:06PM CODES.
2:25:07PM EVERYTHING I HEARD TODAY, IT'S HEARTBREAKING.
2:25:10PM I HATE HEARING ALL THIS AND I FEEL BAD FOR THE APPLICANT,
2:25:15PM AND I FEEL BAD FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS.
2:25:19PM IT'S A HORRIBLE SITUATION, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME, AGAIN,
2:25:22PM EVERYTHING BROUGHT UP TODAY IS MORE PERTAINING TO CODE
2:25:24PM ENFORCEMENT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT AND NOT LAND USE.
2:25:28PM CLEARLY, THE CODE HAS VERY SPECIFIC GUIDELINES, AND I THINK
2:25:32PM THAT'S WHERE OUR ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE PROPERLY MADE A DECISION
2:25:35PM HERE BY INTERPRETING OUR RULES.
2:25:38PM VERY SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND DOESN'T INVOLVE RELATIONSHIPS
2:25:41PM WITH PEOPLE.
2:25:42PM IT JUST TALKS ABOUT LAND DEVELOPMENT AND LAND USE.
2:25:47PM I THINK IF WE TRY TO START BEING THE GUIDANCE COUNSELORS OF
2:25:50PM THE CITY OF TAMPA, MY GOD, WE HAVE REALLY BITTEN OFF MORE
2:25:53PM THAN WE CAN CHOOSE.
2:25:55PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
2:25:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:25:58PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
2:25:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I CAN ONLY SAY THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT
2:26:03PM TO UNDERSTAND THAT A FENCE THAT DOESN'T GO ALL THE WAY TO
2:26:07PM THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE FRONT, WHICH IS ABOUT -- I SAY 12,
2:26:11PM 15 FEET, MAYBE 10, 15 FEET AWAY FROM IT AND THE HEDGE SURE
2:26:16PM DIDN'T PROVE THEY WERE OVER THE SIDEWALK.
2:26:18PM MAYBE TAKEN BEFORE THIS OR AFTER THIS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT
2:26:21PM THAT THIS IS REALLY A NEIGHBORHOOD DISPUTE WITH OR WITHOUT
2:26:26PM THE FENCE.
2:26:27PM I DON'T THINK THE FENCE WITH BEING THERE OR NOT BEING THERE
2:26:30PM IS GOING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
2:26:32PM THAT'S WHAT I FEEL.
2:26:34PM IS IT MEETING THE EXTENT OF THE LAW?
2:26:37PM DEPENDING ON WHAT TYPE OF FENCE YOU PUT UP, THREE FEET OR
2:26:42PM FOUR FEET FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, FROM THE FRONT OF
2:26:46PM YOUR PROPERTY LINE, THEN YOU CAN SAY YEAH.
2:26:48PM BUT THIS IS A SIX FOOT FENCE.
2:26:52PM WHETHER IT'S THERE OR NOT THERE IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE
2:26:54PM PROBLEM.
2:26:54PM WHETHER THREE FEET OR FOUR FEET, IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE
2:26:57PM PROBLEM.
2:26:58PM SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE THE FENCE, WE'RE USING THE FENCE,
2:27:01PM NOT US, BUT THE PETITIONER AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE
2:27:03PM TODAY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE USING THE FENCE AS A REASON
2:27:07PM WHY THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING TO A POINT.
2:27:09PM IF IT DIDN'T HAVE THE FENCE, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO USE IT.
2:27:12PM IT'S NOT A FENCE.
2:27:13PM IT'S A WALL.
2:27:14PM A WALL IS SOMETHING SOLID.
2:27:15PM THAT FENCE IS TRANSPARENT.
2:27:17PM THE THINGS YOU HAVE ON THE SIDE OF IT, THAT WILL WEAR OUT
2:27:21PM AND THEN WHAT?
2:27:22PM IF IT'S FACTUAL, SAME THING IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
2:27:26PM WHAT I'M AFRAID OF IS THAT THIS GOES OVER THE LIMIT,
2:27:31PM SOMETHING MORE DRASTIC THAN THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
2:27:34PM THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME.
2:27:35PM I'M GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE PARTLY FOR SOMETHING THAT I HAD
2:27:38PM NOTHING TO DO WITH.
2:27:40PM LISTEN TO FOUR PEOPLE THAT HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
2:27:45PM GET ALONG.
2:27:47PM LIFE IS TOO SHORT.
2:27:51PM I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A PREACHER.
2:27:54PM LIFE IS TOO SHORT ALREADY TO HAVE ANIMOSITY BETWEEN FOUR
2:27:58PM PEOPLE.
2:27:58PM I DON'T THINK THE FENCE IS GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
2:28:05PM I THINK THE PROBLEM IS THE PERSONALITIES OF THE FOUR PEOPLE
2:28:10PM I GUESS.
2:28:10PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW EITHER
2:28:15PM ONE OF THE FOUR.
2:28:16PM NEVER HAD A CONVERSATION WITH EITHER ONE OF YOU.
2:28:18PM THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M AN EXPERT.
2:28:20PM MAYBE YOU THINK I'M NUTS.
2:28:21PM I MAY HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU ONCE IN A WHILE.
2:28:24PM WHAT I'M SAYING, IT'S GOT TO COME TO SOME DEGREE OF
2:28:28PM UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THOSE FOUR INDIVIDUALS, NOT THE FENCE.
2:28:31PM THE FENCE IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
2:28:35PM BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT MR. CLENDENIN IS SAYING, THAT I WISH
2:28:41PM THE FENCE WAS THE PROBLEM AND WE COULD SOLVE IT.
2:28:44PM PUTTING THE FENCE WHERE IT'S AT OR LEAVING THE FENCE, TAKING
2:28:47PM IT DOWN IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM, UNLESS THERE IS
2:28:52PM A WALL WHERE YOU HAVE LIKE THE WALL OF CHINA AROUND YOUR
2:28:56PM HOUSE, THEN YOU CAN'T GET IN OR OUT AND I WOULD UNDERSTAND
2:28:59PM THAT.
2:29:00PM IT WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
2:29:01PM JUST WON'T SEE THE WORLD ANYMORE.
2:29:03PM THIS IS VERY CONFUSING TO MAKE A DECISION WHEN IT'S ALL
2:29:10PM INTERNAL UP HERE AND EVERYWHERE.
2:29:12PM BUT THAT'S HOW I FEEL.
2:29:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
2:29:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
2:29:17PM THIS IS BIGGER THAN THE GUIDANCE OFFICE.
2:29:24PM THIS HAS GONE TO THE DEAN'S OFFICE AND PRINCIPAL OFFICE AND
2:29:27PM THE PARENTS CAME TO THE MEETING.
2:29:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOING TO THE SUPERINTENDENT.
2:29:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
2:29:32PM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE OVERTURNING IS GOING TO RESOLVE
2:29:43PM THIS ISSUE, THE DESIGN EXCEPTION IS DIFFICULT TO SUPPORT
2:29:57PM BECAUSE THE EMOTIONAL AND NEIGHBOR ISSUES ARE STILL THERE.
2:30:02PM AND MAYBE THE FACT THAT THIS IS NOW PUBLIC AND THE CITY IS
2:30:07PM WATCHING AND KNOWS THAT YOU NEIGHBORS HAVE THIS PROBLEM,
2:30:10PM THAT YOU ALL WOULD LEAVE EACH OTHER THE HELL ALONE, BOTH OF
2:30:14PM YOU, IF THAT'S THE CASE.
2:30:15PM BUT ONE IS DEFINITELY PROBABLY BULLYING ONE MORE THAN THE
2:30:19PM OTHER.
2:30:19PM IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S DOUBLE TEAMING GOING ON.
2:30:22PM I REALLY WISH THAT THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, IF I FELT LIKE THE
2:30:27PM DESIGN EXCEPTION WOULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM, I WOULD SUPPORT
2:30:30PM IT.
2:30:31PM AND AT THE SAME TIME, I JUST THINK THAT YOU ALL NEED TO
2:30:39PM LEAVE EACH OTHER ALONE AND STAY OUT OF EACH OTHER'S WAY.
2:30:42PM AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BARRICADE YOURSELF IN YOUR HOME.
2:30:45PM BECAUSE THE DESIGN EXCEPTION IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE
2:30:51PM PROBLEM.
2:30:52PM IF I FELT COMFORTABLE THAT THE DESIGN EXCEPTION WAS GOING TO
2:30:55PM SOLVE THE PROBLEM, I COULD SUPPORT IT, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO
2:30:58PM BE SAFE IN YOUR OWN HOME AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE CUSSED
2:31:01PM OUT BY YOUR NEIGHBORS AND VICE VERSA.
2:31:04PM YOU ALL JUST START WITH SAYING HELLO.
2:31:07PM I WISH I COULD, YOU KNOW, SOLVE THIS IN A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT
2:31:13PM I JUST DON'T FEEL THE DESIGN EXCEPTION IS GOING TO ADDRESS
2:31:17PM THIS.
2:31:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
2:31:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE LAST LITTLE QUICK THING.
2:31:23PM TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND THE POINT, I THINK YOU AND I BOTH
2:31:27PM SHARE A VISION OF WHAT LIVING IN AN URBAN VILLAGE LOOKS
2:31:31PM LIKE.
2:31:31PM I DON'T THINK ANY ONE OF US WOULD WANT TO HAVE SIX-FOOT
2:31:35PM FENCES, WALLS, OR ANYTHING ELSE EXTENDING INTO THE FRONT
2:31:38PM YARDS ALL THE WAY TO THE SIDEWALK BECAUSE IT WOULD CHANGE
2:31:41PM THE COMPLETE CHARACTERISTIC OF OUR -- CHARACTER OF OUR
2:31:45PM NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE LIVEABILITY AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL
2:31:47PM WE'RE TRYING TO FOSTER WITH FRONT PORCHES.
2:31:49PM ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BRING BACK AND MAKE
2:31:52PM TAMPA A LIVABLE CITY.
2:31:54PM IT'S JUST NOT -- I'M VERY EMPATHETIC WITH THE SITUATION.
2:31:58PM AGAIN, I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS THE SOLUTION.
2:32:01PM I THINK IT'S VERY OBTRUSIVE.
2:32:03PM I DON'T THINK IT'S IN LINE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
2:32:06PM AGAIN, IT'S NOT -- IT'S JUST NOT TWO HOUSES OUT IN THE
2:32:10PM MIDDLE OF THE COUNTRY.
2:32:10PM YOU LIVE IN AN URBAN VILLAGE WITH A LOT OF HOUSES.
2:32:13PM I FEEL I WOULD BE VIOLATING THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE OTHER
2:32:17PM FOLKS IN THE OTHER HOUSES THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA AS WELL IF
2:32:20PM I WERE TO APPROVE A SIX-FOOT FENCE IN THE FRONT YARD.
2:32:24PM I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.
2:32:25PM I WOULDN'T WANT A SIX FOOT FENCE IN MY NEIGHBOR'S FRONT
2:32:28PM YARD.
2:32:28PM THANK YOU.
2:32:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
2:32:34PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
2:32:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE ALREADY HERE.
2:32:36PM YES, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND SECOND
2:32:39PM FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:32:41PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE I CAN ADD TO IT.
2:32:43PM EVERYBODY HAS MADE VERY, VERY VALID POINTS.
2:32:46PM AND I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS HENDERSON -- I AGREE WITH
2:32:50PM EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT.
2:32:50PM IS THIS GOING TO SOLVE THE SITUATION?
2:32:53PM I HAD A CONVERSATION LAST NIGHT WITH A FRIEND ABOUT
2:32:58PM FORGIVENESS AND PEOPLE WHO FIGHT AND HOLD GRUDGES, IT'S
2:33:03PM HARD, BUT WE HAVE TO AT LEAST TRY.
2:33:08PM I DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION OTHER THAN WHAT I'VE SEEN HERE
2:33:10PM TODAY.
2:33:11PM I DON'T THINK THE FENCE IS GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
2:33:13PM YOU CAN PUT A WALL.
2:33:14PM YOU CAN PUT A FENCE.
2:33:15PM YOU CAN PUT A SECURITY GUARD.
2:33:17PM THIS IS GOING TO CONTINUE ON.
2:33:19PM I DON'T SEE THE MERIT IN SUPPORTING -- OVERTURNING IT NOW
2:33:27PM BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO SOLVE THE CORE PROBLEM.
2:33:31PM HAVING SAID THAT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE DENIAL BY
2:33:34PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
2:33:35PM SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:33:37PM WE'LL TAKE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:33:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
2:33:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: TO OVERTURN, NO.
2:33:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
2:33:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:33:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
2:33:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
2:33:57PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH HENDERSON, MIRANDA,
2:33:59PM CLENDENIN, AND MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
2:34:01PM AND VIERA ABSTAINING.
2:34:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, DO WE NOW NEED A MOTION TO
2:34:05PM UPHOLD OR SINCE IT'S BEEN OVERTURNED, IT STAYS.
2:34:09PM MOTION TO UPHOLD?
2:34:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU MIGHT AS WELL, YES.
2:34:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
2:34:15PM UPHOLD THE DENIAL?
2:34:16PM >> SO MOVED.
2:34:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAKE A MOTION TO UPHOLD THE DENIAL ON
2:34:27PM FILE DE 1-23-45-C.
2:34:30PM I MOVE THAT THE ZONING ADMINISTRATION DENIAL OF FILE DE
2:34:35PM 1-23-45 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2905 EAST OKARA ROAD
2:34:40PM BECAUSE THE PETITIONER FAILED TO PROVIDE COMPETENT
2:34:43PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE FENCE AND WALL
2:34:45PM REGULATIONS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE SECTIONS 27-290.1 E-1
2:34:50PM SHOULD BE WAIVED FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
2:34:51PM THAT THE -- FAILED TO PROVE THAT THE DESIGN EXCEPTION WOULD
2:34:59PM INTERFERE WITH THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS AS PROVIDED IN THE
2:35:01PM CHAPTER NOR IS INJURIOUS TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY,
2:35:05PM PUBLIC WELFARE.
2:35:06PM FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE EXCEPTION DID NOT ACHIEVE
2:35:16PM GENERAL INTENT OF THIS CHAPTER IN THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
2:35:19PM PLAN.
2:35:20PM AND DID NOT PROVIDE COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE,
2:35:31PM INCLUDE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AS NECESSARY TO ENSURE
2:35:33PM ADJUSTMENTS GRANTED AND DOES NOT GRANT SPECIAL PRIVILEGES
2:35:37PM CONSISTENT WITH THE LIMITATIONS UPON THE OTHER PROPERTIES IN
2:35:40PM THE VICINITY WITHIN THE SAME ZONING DISTRICT.
2:35:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
2:35:44PM CLENDENIN.
2:35:45PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:35:47PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
2:35:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
2:35:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: [INAUDIBLE]
2:35:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
2:35:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
2:35:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
2:35:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:35:58PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON AND HURTAK VOTING
2:36:02PM NO AND VIERA ABSTAINING.
2:36:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:36:06PM ALL RIGHT.
2:36:08PM NOW WE GO TO STAFF REPORTS AND UNFINISHED BUSINESS, BUT WE
2:36:10PM HAVE SOME ITEMS THAT WERE PULLED.
2:36:12PM THE FIRST REQUEST CAME FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO PULL 34,
2:36:15PM 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, AND 41.
2:36:20PM YES, MA'AM.
2:36:26PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
2:36:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
2:36:30PM I JUST WANTED AFTER OUR DISCUSSION ON TUESDAY NIGHT TO TALK
2:36:36PM ABOUT HOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING.
2:36:38PM THESE WERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND WHAT THEY ARE, ARE US
2:36:42PM APPROVING CONTRACTS WITH NONPROFITS FOR HOW WE DO HELP THOSE
2:36:48PM FACING HOMELESSNESS.
2:36:50PM I JUST THOUGHT BECAUSE OF THE WONDERFUL WORK YOU'RE ABLE TO
2:36:53PM DO, I JUST REALLY THOUGHT THE PUBLIC WITH A REAL INTEREST IN
2:36:56PM THIS ISSUE MIGHT JUST WANT TO KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS THAT
2:37:00PM WE'RE DOING AND THE MONEY THAT WE'RE SPENDING AND THE
2:37:03PM NONPROFITS WE'RE PARTNERING WITH.
2:37:05PM SO MS. HENDERSON DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB IN HER DEPARTMENT IN
2:37:10PM GETTING THIS MONEY OUT WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO.
2:37:13PM I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GREAT IF SHE COULD SHARE FOR THE
2:37:16PM PUBLIC WHAT WE ARE CONVENIENTLY DOING RIGHT AFTER THE BUDGET
2:37:20PM AND RIGHT FOR THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR.
2:37:23PM >> SURE.
2:37:24PM GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
2:37:24PM KAYON HENDERSON WITH THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
2:37:29PM DEPARTMENT.
2:37:29PM WE HAVE ABOUT SIX ITEMS.
2:37:32PM WE GET FEDERAL FUNDS AND STATE FUNDS ANNUALLY TO REALLY
2:37:36PM ASSIST THOSE IN NEED.
2:37:37PM SO SOME OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAD ON THE CONSENT REALLY
2:37:40PM IS TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS WITH RAPID REHOUSING,
2:37:44PM WHICH IS TO GET THEM INTO HOMES VERY QUICKLY, WRAPAROUND
2:37:48PM SERVICES TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THEM TO SUSTAINABILITY AND
2:37:51PM TO SELF-SUFFICIENCY ULTIMATELY.
2:37:53PM WE PARTNER WITH SOME OF THESE AGENCIES FOR YEARS.
2:37:56PM IT HELPS TO BUILD THE CAPACITY FOR THE AGENCY AS WELL AS TO
2:38:01PM HELP TO ELIMINATE ANY DISRUPTION OF SERVICES.
2:38:05PM SO AS THE YEARS GO ON, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THESE ARE
2:38:08PM THREE-YEAR AGREEMENTS TO MAKE SURE AS ONE FISCAL YEAR ENDS
2:38:10PM AND WE'RE GETTING THE FEDERAL FUNDS, IT DOES NOT AFFECT HOW
2:38:14PM WE DO BUSINESS MOVING FORWARD.
2:38:16PM YOU PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT SIX AGREEMENTS, BUT IT TOUCHES ABOUT
2:38:20PM BETWEEN SHELTER AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE, IT TOUCHES ABOUT A
2:38:25PM THOUSAND TO 1,500.
2:38:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PEOPLE?
2:38:29PM >> YES.
2:38:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
2:38:30PM I HAD A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THIS BECAUSE FOR ME, ADDING ALL
2:38:35PM OF THIS UP, A LOT OF THIS, AS I WAS READING THROUGH THESE,
2:38:39PM TALK ABOUT RAPID REHOUSING VOUCHERS.
2:38:44PM WHERE DO -- WHAT ARE THOSE VOUCHERS USED FOR?
2:38:47PM >> THE VOUCHERS ARE USED FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
2:38:49PM SO THE ONES THAT ARE RAPID REHOUSING, I'LL USE ONE AS AN
2:38:52PM EXAMPLE, PROBABLY CATHOLIC CHARITIES.
2:38:55PM THEY MAY HAVE ABOUT 300,000 FOR RAPID REHOUSING THAT SHOWS
2:38:58PM THAT THEY ASSIST MAYBE 15 INDIVIDUALS WITH THAT.
2:39:01PM BUT THAT'S 15 INDIVIDUALS OVER A TWO-YEAR SPAN.
2:39:04PM SO WHEN WE BREAK THAT OUT, WE CAN PAY UP TO ABOUT 24 MONTHS
2:39:08PM WITH THE RUSH, ESG RUSH, WHICH IS ONE OF THE FUNDING
2:39:12PM SOURCES.
2:39:13PM IT WORKS OUT TO ABOUT 800, TO 850 DOLLARS PER PERSON PER
2:39:17PM MONTH FOR TWO YEARS OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
2:39:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER VOUCHERS THAT ARE
2:39:23PM AVAILABLE JUST IMMEDIATE RAPID REHOUSING?
2:39:30PM >> SO WE HAVE -- RAPID REHOUSING IS THE MOST IMMEDIATE THAT
2:39:33PM WE PROBABLY HAVE REALISTICALLY, IS THAT WE ARE REALLY
2:39:37PM MEETING THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHERE THEY ARE.
2:39:39PM THEY ARE HOMELESS.
2:39:39PM WE WANT TO QUICKLY GET THEM RAPIDLY REHOUSED WITHOUT ANY
2:39:43PM PROGRAMS ATTACHED BECAUSE WE REALIZE THAT HAVING THEM IN A
2:39:46PM SAFE PLACE REALLY HELPS WITH A LOT OF THE OTHER ISSUES FOR
2:39:49PM WRAPAROUND SERVICES.
2:39:50PM SO THAT'S REALLY THE MOST IMMEDIATE THAT WE HAVE.
2:39:52PM THE OTHER ONE THAT YOU'LL SEE WITH EPIC, ONE OF OUR
2:39:56PM PARTNERS, THAT IS OUR TENANT BASED RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM
2:39:59PM WHERE REALLY WE PUT SOME PROBLEMATIC GUIDELINES IN PLACE TO
2:40:03PM MAKE SURE THAT THEY FOLLOW THAT SO THAT WE CAN ALSO MAKE
2:40:06PM SURE AT THE END, SELF-SUFFICIENCY, THAT THEY CAN TAKE THAT
2:40:10PM RENT ON BY THEMSELVES.
2:40:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCELLENT.
2:40:12PM I WAS REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE REHOUSING, MEANING THE RAPID
2:40:16PM VOUCHERS FOR HOTEL ROOMS.
2:40:20PM DOES ANY OF THIS DEAL WITH THAT?
2:40:22PM >> NONE OF THESE FUNDS DEAL WITH THAT.
2:40:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NONE OF THESE FUNDS DEAL WITH THAT.
2:40:26PM DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THESE FUNDS ARE USED?
2:40:30PM TO ME, $300,000 FOR ONLY 15 FAMILIES DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A
2:40:34PM LOT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE HOUSING THEM FOR A
2:40:37PM SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME THAT INCLUDES WRAPAROUND SERVICES
2:40:40PM SO THAT THEY DON'T GO BACK TO HOMELESSNESS.
2:40:44PM >> CORRECT.
2:40:45PM IT REALLY WORKS OUT TO BE ABOUT 800 TO 850 PER PERSON, AND
2:40:49PM THAT INCLUDES THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES.
2:40:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOW.
2:40:52PM THAT IS ACTUALLY PHENOMENAL THAT WE CAN DO THAT FOR 80.
2:40:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT I'M
2:41:01PM VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF BECAUSE, AGAIN, I THINK I SAID IT A
2:41:05PM COUPLE OF TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AS WE'VE BEEN
2:41:08PM GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS.
2:41:10PM HAND UP VERSUS HAND OUT.
2:41:12PM WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN CRISIS AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT
2:41:14PM TEMPORARY RELIEF, NOT A LONGER -- LONGER TERM SOLUTIONS ARE
2:41:18PM MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.
2:41:19PM I REALLY APPLAUD YOU AND EVERYBODY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR
2:41:22PM HELPING WITH THESE THINGS.
2:41:24PM I THINK MAYBE IN NEW BUSINESS, I'M GOING TO HAVE A MOTION TO
2:41:27PM REQUEST, BECAUSE I THINK ALSO ONE OF THE THINGS IS WE DON'T
2:41:31PM HAVE ONE SINGLE PLACE, MAYBE A LITTLE WHITE PAPER, GATHERING
2:41:36PM ALL OF WHAT WE DO FOR HOUSING, BOTH SHORT TERM, LONG TERM,
2:41:41PM CRISIS HOUSING IN A ONE OR TWO PAGE DOCUMENT.
2:41:44PM I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALIZE HOW INVESTED THE CITY OF TAMPA
2:41:48PM IS IN HOUSING RIGHT NOW, HOW MUCH MONEY WE'RE SPENDING IN
2:41:51PM HOUSING BECAUSE IT'S SPREAD ACROSS SO MANY DIFFERENT SILOS.
2:41:54PM I THINK IN NEW BUSINESS I'LL INTRODUCE THAT AND ASK THAT THE
2:41:57PM CITY COME BACK AND GIVE US -- I DON'T WANT A COMPREHENSIVE
2:42:01PM DOCUMENT.
2:42:02PM JUST A SHORT DOCUMENT THAT IS EASILY DIGESTIBLE SO PEOPLE
2:42:05PM CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE SPENDING OUR MONEY.
2:42:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY ON THAT, SOMETIME BACK I
2:42:12PM REMEMBER, HOPWA, THEY USED TO HAVE -- ONCE A YEAR WE WOULD
2:42:20PM HAVE A HEARING AND THEY WOULD COME AND WE THROUGH YOUR
2:42:23PM GUIDANCE, THEY WOULD GET THEM, BUT IT WASN'T THAT AMOUNT OF
2:42:27PM MONEY.
2:42:27PM I FORGET WHAT IT WAS.
2:42:29PM ALONG WITH MR. CLENDENIN IS SAYING, THAT WOULD BE A
2:42:33PM WONDERFUL IDEA SO THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE NOT JUST
2:42:37PM GIVING AWAY TO COME BACK.
2:42:38PM IF IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE, I'M ALL FOR IT.
2:42:41PM BUT WE'VE GOT TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE SOMETIMES, I HATE TO SAY
2:42:45PM THIS, BUT THE PEOPLE ARE TRYING AND THEY KEEP -- THE RENT GO
2:42:49PM UP AND UP AND THEY CAN'T KEEP UP.
2:42:52PM THAT'S KICKING A CAN THAT I HOPE COMES BACK, BECAUSE I DON'T
2:42:57PM WANT IT TO GET OUT OF BOUNDS, HEY, WE'RE BROKE AND EVERYBODY
2:43:00PM IS OUT ON THE STREET.
2:43:02PM >> WE NOW HAVE OUR TENANT ADVOCACY SERVICE, AND SO WE HAVE
2:43:06PM INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HIRED AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN
2:43:09PM REALLY INTENTIONAL IN DOING IS TRYING TO HAVE LANDLORDS AND
2:43:12PM WE CALL THEM FRIENDLY LANDLORDS WHO ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN
2:43:17PM HELPING THOSE AT AN AFFORDABLE RENT.
2:43:20PM WE CONTINUE TO CREATE A DATABASE WITH THAT.
2:43:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S WHAT I NEED.
2:43:23PM WHAT YOU SAID THERE, SO THAT THE CITIZENS UNDERSTAND, AND
2:43:26PM THEN THE OTHER THING IS THAT IT'S INCUMBENT UPON THE SAME
2:43:30PM THING THAT THE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN SAID, HELP FROM FOUR,
2:43:36PM FIVE YEARS AGO TO WHERE WE ARE AT NOW, WHAT HAVE WE DONE AND
2:43:39PM WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, THAT WAY WE KNOW.
2:43:43PM THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO AND YOU ARE A
2:43:47PM LOVELY PERSON.
2:43:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:43:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS GLAD THESE ITEMS PULLED.
2:43:52PM I ADDED UP, ABOUT $3.97 MILLION IN HOUSING ASSISTANCE.
2:43:59PM CAN YOU TELL ME, DOES YOUR OFFICE WRITE GRAND BEYOND THESE
2:44:08PM FUNDS?
2:44:09PM HOW DOES THIS CONTINUE TO BE A CONTINUATION?
2:44:13PM >> THESE FUNDS THAT WE'RE GETTING FEDERALLY BECAUSE WE'RE AN
2:44:16PM ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITY, THESE FUNDS COME NATURALLY JUST FROM
2:44:19PM HUD FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL AS FROM THE STATE.
2:44:23PM SO AS WE RECEIVE THESE FUNDS, I THINK TO COUNCILMAN'S POINT,
2:44:28PM WE HAVE HOPWA, SO THAT'S BEEN ONE OF THE GRANTS THAT
2:44:31PM CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
2:44:32PM WE HAVE TO TURN IN REPORTS AT THE END JUST SHOWING HOW MANY
2:44:36PM INDIVIDUALS WE'VE ASSISTED AND WHAT OUR POPULATION GROWTH
2:44:38PM IS.
2:44:39PM SO AS WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION, SOME
2:44:42PM OF OUR FUNDING DOES INCREASE SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO HELP
2:44:45PM MORE INDIVIDUALS.
2:44:46PM BUT AS AN ENTITLEMENT COMMUNITY, THESE FUNDS COME ANNUALLY
2:44:50PM TO US.
2:44:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HOW MANY, WHAT DID YOU CALL THEM --
2:44:53PM >> FRIENDLY LANDLORDS.
2:44:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FRIENDLY LANDLORDS, HOW MANY OF THOSE
2:44:57PM EXIST IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IN YOUR DATABASE?
2:45:00PM >> I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER BUT I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.
2:45:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST CURIOUS.
2:45:05PM THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.
2:45:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
2:45:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF ADD.
2:45:10PM I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED BY THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK THE OTHER DAY
2:45:14PM DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.
2:45:15PM ONE, IT'S A FAILURE OF COMMUNICATION IN THE CITY.
2:45:21PM I'M NOT CRITICIZING ANYBODY, BUT THE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN
2:45:25PM GEARED AROUND THE MAYOR, NOT AROUND THE CITY OR WHAT THE
2:45:29PM CITY COUNCIL IS DOING.
2:45:30PM WE HAVE A COMMUNICATION PERSON IN THE CRA, BUT THERE'S NO
2:45:34PM REASON WHY 20 ACTIVISTS SHOULD COME HERE AND CRY AND TELL US
2:45:39PM WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
2:45:41PM WE'VE DONE MORE THAN THE COUNTY WHICH HAS SEVERAL TIMES OUR
2:45:44PM BUDGET.
2:45:44PM WE WENT THROUGH IT.
2:45:45PM WE WENT FROM ZERO FROM FOUR YEARS AGO TO 5 MILLION TO 50
2:45:50PM MILLION.
2:45:51PM AND MORE THAN HALF OF IT CITY COUNCIL PUT IN.
2:45:53PM AND SO WE NEED A COMMUNICATION PROCESS AND I HOPE SOMEBODY
2:45:58PM IN COMMUNICATION WILL VOLUNTEER TO HELP US.
2:46:01PM PART OF IT FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
2:46:03PM I GAVE THE ADMINISTRATION CREDIT THE OTHER DAY.
2:46:05PM PART OF IT IS FROM CITY COUNCIL AND PART OF IT CITY COUNCIL
2:46:08PM AS A CRA.
2:46:08PM AND WE NEED TO MAKE THE DESIGNATIONS SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT
2:46:11PM THEY ARE.
2:46:11PM THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMMUNICATION PROCESS FOR THAT.
2:46:14PM AND THEN -- AND ALSO I REACHED OUT TO SOME OF THE ACTIVISTS.
2:46:19PM I'M SURE YOU ALL DID, TOO.
2:46:21PM BUT THERE'S NO REASON WHY SOMEBODY SHOULD COME AND SAY WE
2:46:25PM HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WHEN THEY SAY THEY'VE BEEN AROUND THE
2:46:28PM ISSUE BEFORE.
2:46:28PM SOME PEOPLE WILL MAYBE SAY THAT ANYWAY.
2:46:30PM THE OTHER THING I THINK WE HAVE TO PUSH BACK ON, LOOK, THERE
2:46:34PM IS A FINITE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
2:46:36PM NATHAN HAGAN SAID 8 MILLION.
2:46:39PM YOU CAN USE -- BILLION.
2:46:43PM YEAH, BILLION.
2:46:43PM THAT'S FOUR TIMES OUR ENTIRE BUDGET.
2:46:48PM THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
2:46:50PM SO WE ALSO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SET EXPECTATIONS.
2:46:53PM IF WE HAVE GONE FROM ZERO TO FIVE MILLION TO 50 MILLION,
2:46:57PM THAT'S MAJOR PROGRESS.
2:46:58PM WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET TO A BILLION.
2:47:00PM WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET TO 8 BILLION, NOT GOING TO GET TO 500
2:47:03PM MILLION.
2:47:03PM AT SOME POINT WE'VE GOT TO SAY THAT'S AS FAR AS WE CAN GO.
2:47:09PM THE CITY CANNOT GO ANY FURTHER.
2:47:11PM WE'RE WILLING TO PARTNER WITH YOU WITH OTHER AGENCIES, BUT
2:47:14PM WE CAN'T AS A CITY GO ANY FURTHER.
2:47:16PM THE OTHER THING I THINK WE HAVE TO TELL THE ACTIVISTS IS IF
2:47:21PM WE GO FROM 5 TO 50 MILLION AND WE GET CRITICIZED AND GO 50
2:47:26PM TO HUNDRED MILLION AND YOU GUYS GET CRITICIZED, THERE ARE A
2:47:30PM LOT OF OTHER PLACES THAT NEED THE MONEY.
2:47:32PM THERE ARE HUGE NEEDS IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE CAN FILL.
2:47:34PM I'M NOT GOING TO REACT TO SOME PEOPLE AND I HOPE THEY ARE
2:47:40PM WATCHING NOW.
2:47:41PM I HOPE THEY CIRCULATE A VIDEO OF ME SAYING THIS, BUT I'M NOT
2:47:44PM GOING TO RESPOND IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO COOPERATE WITH US
2:47:46PM AND PARTNER WITH US.
2:47:48PM IF YOUR ONLY PURPOSE IS TO COME AND YELL AT US, I'M NOT
2:47:51PM WORKING WITH YOU.
2:47:52PM IF YOU WANT TO BECOME A PARTNER AND SHOW HOW TO WORK WITH
2:47:55PM THE OTHER NONPROFITS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT AGENCIES SO WE CAN
2:47:58PM LEVERAGE THAT SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH
2:48:01PM YOU AND WORK WITH YOU.
2:48:02PM LET'S PARTNER INSTEAD BECAUSE THERE IS AN ABSOLUTE FINITE
2:48:05PM AMOUNT THE CITY CAN PUT IN.
2:48:07PM THE OTHER THING, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON BUYING HOUSES, NOT
2:48:10PM RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND THE SHORT-TERM THINGS.
2:48:12PM I THINK WE HAVE TO START SHIFTING -- I DON'T WANT TO GO
2:48:15PM THROUGH THE WHOLE DEBATE RIGHT NOW -- BUT SHIFT TO SMALLER
2:48:17PM AND SMALLER PERCENTAGE GOING TO RENTAL ASSISTANCE, WHICH IN
2:48:20PM THE LONG RUN A HUGE WASTE OF MONEY.
2:48:23PM WE'VE GOT TO HELP PEOPLE BUY HOMES BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY WE
2:48:26PM CAN DO -- WE'VE GOT TO USE THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST,
2:48:30PM PURCHASE ASSISTANCE.
2:48:31PM WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MOVE OUR MONEY FORWARD.
2:48:36PM AND WE NEED SOME SAFETY NET KIND OF THINGS, BUT IT HAS TO BE
2:48:40PM TEMPORARY AND A SMALL AMOUNT OF BUDGET BECAUSE IF WE DON'T
2:48:43PM SOLVE THE LONGER TERM HOUSING, WE'LL KEEP DUMPING MONEY
2:48:46PM EVERY DAY.
2:48:47PM HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE FIND LONG-TERM FIXES.
2:48:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, COUNCIL MEMBER
2:48:56PM CLENDENIN.
2:48:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
2:48:57PM I DON'T DISAGREE THAT WE IDEALLY DON'T WANT TO BE SPENDING
2:49:03PM AS MUCH ON RENT CONTROL OR -- SORRY, NOT RENT CONTROL --
2:49:07PM RENTAL ASSISTANCE BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED TO FIND HOUSING FOR
2:49:11PM PEOPLE.
2:49:12PM FOR ME, WHAT THIS REMINDED ME OF IS THE FACT THAT WITH
2:49:19PM SHORT-TERM HOMELESSNESS VOUCHERS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
2:49:22PM COSTS THE MOST WHEN WE WORK WITH PEOPLE IN RAPIDLY REHOUSING
2:49:27PM THEM IS THE COST OF MOTEL VOUCHERS.
2:49:29PM AND IF WE HAD A PLACE TO RAPIDLY REHOUSE PEOPLE, WE WOULDN'T
2:49:36PM HAVE THE ISSUE AS MUCH.
2:49:37PM I ALSO THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS A GREAT TIME TO POINT OUT THAT
2:49:42PM YESTERDAY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, ONE OF THE SECRETARIES OF
2:49:47PM HOUSING CAME DOWN AND AWARDED THE CITY AND THE COUNTY WITH
2:49:52PM $4.6 MILLION TO FOCUS ON YOUTH HOMELESSNESS SPECIFICALLY.
2:49:56PM AND IT WAS INCREDIBLY EXCITING.
2:50:00PM WHEN I GOT UP, SOME OF MY COMMENTS WERE I REALLY THOUGHT
2:50:04PM THAT THAT WAS A TESTAMENT TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR THE FACT
2:50:10PM THAT -- I MEAN, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CAME BACK LAST YEAR
2:50:12PM AND GAVE US $750,000 MORE BECAUSE WE HAD DONE SUCH A GREAT
2:50:16PM JOB.
2:50:17PM I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THAT ASSISTED US IN GETTING THIS
2:50:20PM $4.6 MILLION BECAUSE OF HOW WELL OUR COMMUNITY DOES AT
2:50:25PM SPENDING THE MONEY.
2:50:26PM I JUST WANTED TO DO KUDOS TO YOUR TEAM BECAUSE I TRULY
2:50:30PM BELIEVED THEY WORKED ON GETTING THAT GRANT I HEARD FOR SIX
2:50:33PM YEARS.
2:50:33PM I THINK THAT HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT.
2:50:36PM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
2:50:38PM I DON'T DISAGREE WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH COMMUNICATION
2:50:41PM BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD PEOPLE GET UP AND TALK YESTERDAY, AND
2:50:46PM THIS WAS ALL -- I MEAN, HOMELESS ADVOCATES, PEOPLE WHO WORK
2:50:49PM IN THE SYSTEM.
2:50:50PM AND ONE OF THE THINGS SOMEONE SAID, OUR POLITICIANS AREN'T
2:50:53PM DOING ENOUGH.
2:50:54PM WHY DON'T WE HAVE RENT CONTROL?
2:50:56PM WHY DON'T WE STOP PEOPLE FROM BUYING UP REAL ESTATE?
2:51:00PM SO PEOPLE ARE CLEARLY NOT COMMUNICATING TO THEM THAT THE
2:51:04PM STATE HAS SAID WE CAN'T DO RENT CONTROL AND WE SIMPLY CAN'T
2:51:10PM STOP PEOPLE FROM BUYING THINGS.
2:51:12PM THERE'S A LOT OF PUSH.
2:51:14PM THERE'S A LOT OF MISCOMMUNICATION.
2:51:17PM I'M GLAD YOU POINTED THAT OUT, AND I HOPE THIS GOES FURTHER.
2:51:20PM SO ANYWAY.
2:51:22PM I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
2:51:26PM PROVIDE IN THE LONG-TERM SO THAT, YES, EVENTUALLY WE CAN
2:51:29PM STOP DOING SHORT-TERM.
2:51:32PM BUT THE REALITY IS, IF WE STOP DOING SHORT-TERM, PEOPLE WILL
2:51:35PM BE OUT ON THE STREETS.
2:51:37PM >> IF I MAY, THESE GRANTS COMING BEFORE YOU, THE FEDERAL
2:51:40PM REGULATIONS, THEY BIND -- LIKE, THESE ARE RENTAL ASSISTANCE
2:51:43PM PROGRAMS THAT WE MUST FOLLOW IN ORDER TO GET THESE FUNDS.
2:51:47PM ALL OF THESE AGREEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU, IF WE
2:51:51PM CHOSE NOT TO DO THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE IN THIS FORM, WE WOULD
2:51:55PM NOT HAVE THE FUNDS.
2:51:56PM SOME OF IT IS GOING TO BE BOUND, SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
2:51:56PM CHANGE IT.
2:51:58PM SO THE NEXT COUPLE OF AGREEMENTS, AND THEY'LL CONTINUE
2:52:01PM COMING AS WE ENTER IN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, WE HAVE ABOUT
2:52:04PM ANOTHER 20 AGREEMENTS THAT WILL BE QUITE SIMILAR WITH
2:52:06PM SERVICES AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE, BUT, AGAIN, BECAUSE THOSE
2:52:10PM ARE PART OF THE REGULATIONS, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CHANGE
2:52:13PM WHAT THAT IS.
2:52:14PM FOR THE 4.6 MILLION, I THINK AS A WHOLE, ALL OF THE EXTERNAL
2:52:21PM LEADERS THAT REALLY ADVOCATE FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNHOUSED, I
2:52:25PM THINK WE CONTINUE TO FIGHT BECAUSE HOMELESSNESS IS NOT
2:52:29PM SOMETHING THAT GETS ENOUGH FUNDING.
2:52:30PM FUNDING GOES DIRECTLY TO THHI, SO WE'RE NOT PART OF
2:52:34PM ADMINISTERING IT BUT WE WILL BE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM.
2:52:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND THEN HENDERSON.
2:52:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PUT YOUR MIND AT EASE, I DON'T SEE ANY
2:52:48PM SENTIMENT TO NOT APPROVE THESE.
2:52:50PM YOU CAN BREATHE EASY FOR THE REST OF THE TIME YOU'RE
2:52:52PM STANDING AT THE PODIUM.
2:52:53PM MAYBE I'M WRONG, BUT I DON'T THINK SO.
2:52:55PM HONESTLY, I DIDN'T EXPECT TO GET INTO THIS KIND OF
2:52:58PM DISCUSSION BECAUSE IT FEELS WORKSHOP-Y, BUT I REALLY WANT TO
2:53:02PM ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
2:53:06PM MIGHT AS WELL NOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK
2:53:09PM ABOUT THIS STUFF.
2:53:10PM I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID
2:53:13PM BECAUSE I AGREE WITH HIM 100%, SUSTAINABILITY AND WHERE THE
2:53:17PM DIRECTION OF THE CITY OF TAMPA NEEDS TO GO AND THAT IS LONG
2:53:19PM TERM, IF YOU DON'T CONTROL THOSE MONTHLY PAYMENTS, YOU'RE
2:53:23PM ALWAYS THE VICTIM OF SOMEBODY ELSE.
2:53:25PM IT'S DEFINITELY THE FUTURE -- IT IS THE LONGER TERM SOLUTION
2:53:30PM FOR HOUSING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS GETTING PEOPLE TO
2:53:33PM CONTROL THEIR OWN DESTINY.
2:53:34PM IT'S ABSOLUTELY WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
2:53:37PM SHORT-TERM THING, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I THINK THAT -- I
2:53:42PM DON'T KNOW, DO WE HAVE A STUDY OF WHAT THE COST OF PUTTING
2:53:47PM PEOPLE IN HOTELS COSTS VERSUS IF WE BOUGHT A HOTEL?
2:53:50PM AND IS THERE A STUDY SHOWING COST SAVINGS?
2:53:52PM BEFORE WE JUMPED IN THERE, I KIND OF WANT TO KNOW IF WE HAVE
2:53:56PM THAT KIND OF --
2:53:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ANALYSIS ISN'T JUST, YOU KNOW, BUYING
2:54:01PM SOMETHING LIKE AN OLD BUILDING AND RETROFITTING IT.
2:54:06PM THE IDEA IS BUYING THE LAND FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT
2:54:13PM PEOPLE COULD OWN LATER ON.
2:54:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPECIFICALLY THE HOTEL SITUATION.
2:54:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, PLEASE LET ME FINISH, IF WE WERE TO
2:54:21PM GET A BUILDING THAT COULD BE RETROFIT OR AN OLD MOTEL,
2:54:25PM THAT'S SORT OF AN IMMEDIATE USE, AND THEN LATER DOWN THE
2:54:29PM LINE COULD BE PUT INTO AFFORDABLE HOUSING ONCE WE HAVE
2:54:32PM SOMEWHERE FOR FAMILIES TO GO.
2:54:33PM BUT RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO RAPIDLY REHOUSE A
2:54:37PM FAMILY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND THAT'S JUST AN ISSUE, SO
2:54:41PM THAT'S THE REASONING BEHIND LOOKING AT EITHER MOTELS OR OLD
2:54:45PM BUILDINGS THAT COULD BE RETROFIT IS THE MEDIACY OF IT --
2:54:52PM IMMEDIACY OF IT.
2:54:53PM THIS IS A MUCH LONGER DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER TIME.
2:54:56PM THE POINT WAS TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE
2:54:59PM FEDERAL DOLLARS WE HAVE.
2:55:00PM WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE DOLLARS, OTHERWISE WE
2:55:02PM DON'T HAVE THEM.
2:55:03PM BUT FOR NOW, THIS IS --
2:55:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'LL SAVE IT FOR A WORKSHOP.
2:55:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
2:55:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. HENDERSON, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
2:55:12PM THE TEEN HOUSING -- THI --
2:55:16PM >> SORRY.
2:55:17PM I LIVE IN AN ACRONYM WORLD.
2:55:19PM TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS INITIATIVE.
2:55:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS A GREAT PROGRAM.
2:55:27PM I WITNESSED TWO STUDENTS IN PARTICULAR, ONE GRADUATED FROM
2:55:29PM THE UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL FLORIDA.
2:55:31PM A NURSE IN DETROIT, MICHIGAN.
2:55:35PM ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY WHO WORKS IN COMMUNICATION IN HOUSTON.
2:55:37PM BOTH GRADUATES OF JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
2:55:39PM SO I KNOW THAT WHEN WE HOUSE HOMELESS TEENS THAT NEED
2:55:43PM SUPPORT, THAT IT DOES WORK.
2:55:45PM I'VE WITNESSED IT MYSELF.
2:55:46PM AND WE HAVE ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOMELESSNESS.
2:55:49PM SO WHETHER IT'S RAPID HOUSING LIKE THIS AND RENTAL
2:55:57PM ASSISTANCE, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE PREFERRED
2:56:01PM THAT PEOPLE GO INTO HOME OWNERSHIP, BUT IN SOME INSTANCES WE
2:56:05PM HAVE TO HELP PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP RIGHT NOW INSTANTLY AND
2:56:08PM THAT MATTERS AS WELL.
2:56:09PM I JUST WANTED TO GO ON THE RECORD SAYING THAT.
2:56:12PM THE COMMUNICATION PIECE, COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID IT AND HE'S
2:56:18PM CORRECT, BUT IT'S ALSO OUR RESPONSIBILITY IN OUR DISTRICTS
2:56:21PM AND HOW WE COMMUNICATE WITH OUR OWN CONSTITUENTS TO PUSH
2:56:24PM BACK ON THAT NARRATIVE OURSELVES BY SHARING THAT ON THE
2:56:27PM FORMS OF COMMUNICATION THAT WE USE, ALONG WITH THE CITY OF
2:56:30PM TAMPA, THE MAYOR, AND EVERYONE SUPPORTING THAT LEVEL OF
2:56:35PM COMMUNICATION.
2:56:36PM YOU'RE RIGHT.
2:56:36PM THEY COME IN AND THEY SAY THINGS.
2:56:38PM IT'S PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:56:40PM THEY GET TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT TO SAY.
2:56:43PM A LOT OF TIMES I'M LISTENING AND I SAY TO MYSELF THEY ARE
2:56:45PM NOT INFORMED OR THEY ARE NOT LISTENING BECAUSE OF THE
2:56:49PM INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN SHARED IN THIS ROOM AND FROM THE
2:56:56PM STATE, THE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO
2:57:00PM WITH US BUT YET COMES BACK TO US BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT
2:57:04PM HEARING IT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT
2:57:07PM IT.
2:57:08PM RENT CONTROL AND PRIVATE PROPERTY, I'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION
2:57:11PM WITH FLORIDA RISING AND EVEN SHARED MY POSITION WITH THEM.
2:57:14PM WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE.
2:57:16PM YOU CAN'T TELL A PRIVATE OWNER WHAT TO CHARGE FOR THE
2:57:19PM PROPERTY THEY OWN AND EVERYBODY IS NOT A BIG ENTITY.
2:57:22PM MOM AND POPS WHO OWN THEIR GRANDMA'S HOUSE AND THEY USE THAT
2:57:26PM TO PAY COLLEGE TUITION.
2:57:28PM THERE ARE SO MANY VARIABLES IN OUR HOUSING NEEDS.
2:57:31PM THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY.
2:57:32PM YOU'RE RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A WORKSHOP.
2:57:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
2:57:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, REALLY FAST, PART OF THE REASON WHY
2:57:39PM THERE'S A LOT OF ACCUSATIONS, ET CETERA.
2:57:43PM AND COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN MADE REFERENCE TO THIS LAST TIME,
2:57:46PM WHICH IS THE TRICKLE-DOWN NATURE OF TALLAHASSEE, GIVEN THE
2:57:50PM FACT THAT WE HAVE A STATE GOVERNMENT THAT PICKS THE VOTERS
2:57:53PM AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER WAY AROUND, I FEEL, AT LEAST ON THE
2:57:55PM LEGISLATURE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS VERY PROBLEMATIC AND WHATNOT.
2:57:59PM IN TERMS OF GETTING CRITICIZED ON THINGS WHERE YOU HAVE --
2:58:02PM WHERE THE BODY HAS A GREAT RECORD, I FIND THAT IS A PART OF
2:58:07PM PUBLIC OFFICE.
2:58:07PM YOU CAN HAVE A STELLAR RECORD ON PUBLIC SCHOOLS, JOB
2:58:10PM TRAINING, EDUCATION, HEALTH CARE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, AND
2:58:14PM YOU'LL STILL GET CRITICIZED FOR IT.
2:58:16PM THAT'S KIND OF WHY SOMETIMES PUBLIC OFFICE IS A THANKLESS
2:58:19PM JOB SOMETIMES.
2:58:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN MAYOR GRECO WAS HERE, I THINK HE SAID
2:58:25PM YOU COULD PAVE THE STREETS WITH GOLD AND PEOPLE WOULD
2:58:29PM COMPLAIN ABOUT THE GLARE.
2:58:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HAVING SAID THAT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON,
2:58:32PM YOUR COMMITTEE, MOVE ITEMS 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, AND 41.
2:58:37PM >> SECOND.
2:58:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
2:58:40PM CARLSON.
2:58:41PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
2:58:42PM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:58:43PM AYE.
2:58:44PM SECOND REQUEST HERE -- THANK YOU VERY MUCH -- COUNCILMAN
2:58:47PM CARLSON ASKED TO PULL ITEM NUMBER 80.
2:58:50PM WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE -- I'M SORRY, 28.
2:58:54PM I WAS LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT THING.
2:58:57PM WE HAVE SOME FOLKS FROM THE HR DEPARTMENT.
2:59:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF I COULD SAY, I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS
2:59:07PM ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE AND ALSO THE GOVERNANCE OF IT, OF THE
2:59:11PM MEMBERS OF IT, AT LEAST TWO OF THEM ARE EITHER APPOINTED BY
2:59:15PM THE MAYOR OR ALLIES OF THE MAYOR.
2:59:18PM IT ALSO REPORTS TO HR DEPARTMENT, WHICH HAS BEEN ADVERSE TO
2:59:23PM CITY COUNCIL.
2:59:25PM SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
2:59:27PM I THINK IT NEEDS INDEPENDENCE.
2:59:29PM IT ALSO, IF IT'S GOING TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE MAYOR,
2:59:32PM IT NEEDS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
2:59:34PM I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT OBJECTIVE.
2:59:36PM ALSO, I'M NOT ALLOWED TO KNOW ALL THE CASES THAT GO THROUGH.
2:59:39PM IF SOMEBODY FILES A COMPLAINT, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TELL
2:59:42PM US WHAT IT IS.
2:59:43PM THE FEEDBACK I'VE GOTTEN IS COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE
2:59:46PM ADMINISTRATION OR STAFF ARE REJECTED BUT COMPLAINTS AGAINST
2:59:49PM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS MOVE FORWARD.
2:59:51PM AND SO I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF
2:59:55PM COME BACK TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS EQUITABLE,
2:59:59PM TRANSPARENT AND OBJECTIVE BECAUSE THERE'S NO CONFIDENCE IN
3:00:01PM THE COMMUNITY RIGHT NOW THAT IT IS.
3:00:09PM >> LYNN SECONDED IT.
3:00:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:00:12PM CARLSON WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:00:13PM MS. ZELMAN.
3:00:15PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: JUST TO GO BACK IN TIME A LITTLE BIT, THERE
3:00:20PM IS A STATE ETHICS CODE AND A STATE ETHICS COMMISSION.
3:00:25PM AND BACK IN I BELIEVE 2004, THE CITY DECIDED AFTER SOME
3:00:31PM INCIDENTS THAT HAPPENED DURING THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION THAT
3:00:34PM THEY WANTED TO HAVE AN ETHICS CODE THAT WAS TOUGHER THAN THE
3:00:39PM STATE CODE IN SOME AREAS AND THEY ALSO, THE CODE CREATED AN
3:00:44PM ETHICS COMMISSION.
3:00:47PM ALL OF THIS IS CONTAINED IN LEGISLATION THAT THE CITY
3:00:54PM COUNCIL IN THOSE YEARS CREATED.
3:00:57PM YOU ARE THE LEGISLATIVE BODY.
3:01:00PM IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE CITY ETHICS CODE,
3:01:05PM THE MAKEUP OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION, THAT IS LEGISLATION
3:01:09PM THAT YOU ALL CAN PROPOSE.
3:01:14PM WHAT OUR DEPARTMENT IS ACTUALLY IN THE MIDST OF DOING IN
3:01:19PM RESPONSE TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE ETHICS COMMISSION
3:01:24PM MADE LAST YEAR WAS BRING TO YOU A DRAFT ORDINANCE WITH THE
3:01:31PM CHANGES THAT COMMISSION PROPOSED, BUT IT'S ULTIMATELY UP TO
3:01:36PM CITY COUNCIL.
3:01:37PM YOU CAN REJECT THEM.
3:01:38PM YOU CAN REVISE THEM.
3:01:39PM YOU CAN ELIMINATE THE CITY ETHICS CODE AND THE CITY ETHICS
3:01:43PM COMMISSION.
3:01:44PM THAT'S ALL WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW AS THE LEGISLATIVE BODY.
3:01:47PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT
3:01:50PM BACKGROUND AND THAT HISTORY.
3:01:52PM THIS WAS LEGISLATIVELY CREATED AND IT CAN BE LEGISLATIVELY
3:01:55PM CHANGED, REVISED, ELIMINATED.
3:02:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T WANT TO GO ROUND AND ROUND ABOUT
3:02:04PM THIS RIGHT NOW.
3:02:04PM BUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS -- I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE STILL
3:02:07PM MOVING FORWARD.
3:02:08PM THAT REALLY CONCERNS ME.
3:02:09PM BUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE RECOMMENDATION BY THE MAYOR'S
3:02:12PM OFFICE TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION THAT WERE PUNITIVE TOWARD
3:02:15PM CITY COUNCIL.
3:02:15PM AND ONE OF THEM WAS VERY BLATANTLY DIRECTED AT ME.
3:02:21PM I REALLY TAKE OFFENSE TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS A COMMISSION
3:02:27PM SET UP THAT IS WORKING AT ODDS TO CITY COUNCIL.
3:02:34PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
3:02:36PM MOVING FORWARD SIMPLY MEANS THAT IN ORDER FOR YOU ALL TO
3:02:39PM CONSIDER THEM, YOU NEED SOMETHING IN FRONT OF YOU.
3:02:41PM SO WHAT OUR STAFF WOULD DO AND WE DO THIS WHEN THE ZONING
3:02:48PM DEPARTMENT SUGGESTS LEGISLATIVE CHANGES, WE DO THIS WHEN
3:02:51PM CITY COUNCIL SUGGESTS CHANGES, WE DO THIS WHEN NEIGHBORHOOD
3:02:56PM GROUPS, WE'LL PREPARE THE DRAFT ORDINANCE SO THEN YOU HAVE
3:02:58PM SOMETHING TO LOOK AT AND CONSIDER.
3:03:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE IS LOBBYING AND
3:03:02PM THE POLITICAL PEOPLE.
3:03:03PM I'LL JUST TELL YOU ONE --
3:03:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GIVE AN EXAMPLE.
3:03:09PM YES, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
3:03:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE WAY POLITICS WORKS IN TAMPA IS PEOPLE
3:03:14PM TRY TO STAB EACH OTHER IN THE BACK AND RUN WHISPER
3:03:17PM CAMPAIGNS.
3:03:18PM IMMEDIATELY WHEN I STARTED FOUR YEARS AGO, I KNEW THAT WHAT
3:03:23PM WE CALL THE CABAL, WHAT THE COMMUNITY CALLS THE CABAL WOULD
3:03:29PM COME AFTER ME AND HIT ME WITH SOME KIND OF ETHICS COMPLAINT.
3:03:33PM WE KNOW RECORD THE LAST ADMINISTRATION COMMITTED ALL KINDS
3:03:36PM OF ETHICS ISSUES.
3:03:37PM SO MY PURPOSE OF RUNNING WAS TO CLEAN UP GOVERNMENT HERE TO
3:03:42PM FIX THE ETHICAL AND ILLEGAL THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON.
3:03:46PM I WENT WITH MARTY AND WITH ADVICE OF MY OWN ATTORNEYS, I
3:03:49PM WENT TO TALLAHASSEE AND GOT A PREEMPTIVE OPINION FROM THE
3:03:54PM ETHICS COMMISSION ON WHAT I'M ALLOWED TO DO AND WHAT I'M NOT
3:03:57PM ALLOWED TO DO.
3:03:58PM THE INTERESTING THING IS I FOUND OUT IT WAS SITTING ON THE
3:04:03PM DESK OF THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, NOT ANDREA OR
3:04:06PM PREDECESSOR, IT WAS SITTING ON THE MAYOR'S DESK.
3:04:10PM NOT ONLY THAT, BUT THEY BOTH MEMORIZED IT.
3:04:13PM THAT OBVIOUSLY SHOWED THERE WERE MEETINGS WHERE THEY WERE
3:04:16PM REGULARLY MEETING TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING AGAINST ME.
3:04:20PM TEXT MESSAGE EVIDENCE, E-MAIL EVIDENCE WHICH WE CAN GO
3:04:23PM THROUGH ANOTHER DAY.
3:04:25PM BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID, THEY LEAKED TO THE MEDIA
3:04:29PM THAT WHEN I FILLED -- FIRST, THEY COMPLAINED THAT I RECUSED
3:04:32PM MYSELF TOO MANY TIMES.
3:04:33PM JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS AND SO YOU KNOW, WHEN I FILED TO
3:04:37PM RUN, NOT WHEN I WON, WHEN I FILED TO RUN, I STOPPED TAKING
3:04:41PM ANY CLIENTS RELATED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
3:04:42PM I'M NOT REQUIRED TO DO THAT.
3:04:43PM I CAN DECIDE NOT TO VOTE ON IT.
3:04:45PM BUT I TELL ALL MY COLLEAGUES DO NOT TAKE ANY COLLEAGUES OF
3:04:50PM THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE I DON'T WANT A VOTING CONFLICT.
3:04:53PM I DON'T WANT TO RECUSE MYSELF VERY OFTEN.
3:04:55PM WHAT HAPPENED IS THEY LEAKED TO THE MEDIA THAT I RECUSED
3:04:59PM MYSELF TOO MANY TIMES.
3:05:00PM BY THE WAY, THEY USED IT IN THE CAMPAIGN ADS AGAINST ME AND
3:05:03PM THEY USED FORMS FROM MY RECUSALS, WHICH NOBODY EVER PULLED
3:05:09PM PUBLIC RECORDS ON.
3:05:10PM BECAUSE I PULLED PUBLIC RECORDS TO SEE WHO PULLED PUBLIC
3:05:13PM RECORDS.
3:05:13PM OBVIOUSLY, A STAFF PERSON HAD LEAKED IT, WHICH IS ILLEGAL TO
3:05:16PM DO POLITICAL THINGS IF YOU ARE A STAFF PERSON.
3:05:17PM YOU'RE ON STAFF TIME GETTING PAID BY THE CITY.
3:05:20PM SO THEY WENT TO THE MEDIA AND SAID I RECUSED MYSELF TOO MANY
3:05:24PM TIMES.
3:05:25PM MEDIA PULLED THE RECORDS.
3:05:26PM CAME BACK WITH RECORDS THAT I RECUSED MYSELF TWICE AS MUCH
3:05:29PM AS EVERYBODY ELSE COMBINED.
3:05:30PM IT IS BECAUSE THE TYPE OF JOB AND I OWN MY COMPANY.
3:05:34PM I'M NOT JUST ISOLATED TO THIS AREA AND PRIOR OPINION FROM
3:05:36PM THE ETHICS COMMISSION.
3:05:37PM WHEN THEY REALIZED THEY WEREN'T GOING TO GET THAT STORY,
3:05:40PM THEY PUSHED A STORY, WELL, HE DOESN'T FILL OUT HIS FORM
3:05:43PM CORRECTLY.
3:05:44PM AND WHAT THEY MEANT IN PART WAS THAT I DON'T ALWAYS -- WHEN
3:05:49PM I CAN, I MENTION THE NAME OF THE CLIENT, BUT WHEN I'M NOT
3:05:54PM ALLOWED TO BECAUSE OF CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, JUST LIKE A
3:05:58PM LAWYER, I WORK ON LEGAL CASES.
3:06:00PM REQUIRED BY ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE NOT TO RELEASE ALL THE
3:06:03PM NAMES OF THE CLIENTS.
3:06:04PM WHEN I'M ALLOWED TO DO IT, I CAN.
3:06:07PM THEY LEAKED TO THE MEDIA I DID NOT GIVE FULL INFORMATION AND
3:06:10PM GOT THE FORMER CITY ATTORNEY TO SLANDER ME BY SAYING, YES, I
3:06:14PM DID NOT GIVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
3:06:16PM ONLY THEY BACKED DOWN WHEN I THREATENED TO SUE.
3:06:19PM YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED BY THE ETHICS COMMISSION TO GIVE THOSE
3:06:22PM NAMES AT ALL.
3:06:23PM WHEN I CAN, I DO.
3:06:24PM BUT IN THE CASES WHERE I'M COVERED UNDER ATTORNEY-CLIENT
3:06:28PM PRIVILEGE, I DON'T.
3:06:29PM SAME THING WITH MY PHONE.
3:06:31PM WHEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY COMING THROUGH WITH EXTRA PUBLIC
3:06:34PM RECORDS REQUESTS, I USE THE CITY PHONE.
3:06:36PM IT HAS THE CITY LOGO ON THE BACK AND CITY LOGO HERE.
3:06:40PM IT'S ON MY CARDS AND IT'S ON MY E-MAILS.
3:06:44PM WHEN THEY PULL PUBLIC RECORDS, THEY ASK FOR THIS PHONE.
3:06:48PM THIS PHONE IS COVERED BY AT LEAST A HUNDRED DIFFERENT CASES
3:06:51PM BY ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE.
3:06:53PM I CAN'T BY LAW TURN IT OVER.
3:06:56PM I HAVE TO PAY $5,000 EVERY TIME TO HAVE MY PHONE SEARCHED
3:06:59PM AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WON'T REIMBURSE FOR THAT.
3:07:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU HAVE TO PAY $5,000 TO HAVE YOUR OWN
3:07:06PM PERSONAL PHONE.
3:07:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT SEARCHED BY THIRD PARTY
3:07:11PM UNDER SUPERVISION OF AN ATTORNEY BECAUSE I HAVE TO MAKE SURE
3:07:15PM NONE OF THE INFORMATION IS LEAKED.
3:07:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO HAND IT TO THEM
3:07:19PM BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CITY PHONE TO DO CITY BUSINESS.
3:07:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S RIGHT.
3:07:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN'T YOU TURN THEM DOWN --
3:07:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: I CAN.
3:07:26PM BUT THEY CAN THREATEN TO SUE ME.
3:07:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHO WILL SUE YOU?
3:07:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHOEVER THE PLAINTIFF IS.
3:07:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT WOULD HAVE TO BECOME PUBLIC.
3:07:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE POINT IS -- IF I REFUSE TO TURN IT OVER,
3:07:41PM THEN THE ETHICS COMMISSION COULD GET -- THE CITY ETHICS
3:07:46PM COULD TRY TO CREATE A RULE, YOU HAVE TO TURN OVER YOUR
3:07:49PM PERSONAL PHONE.
3:07:49PM IF I TURN THIS OVER TO THE CITY, WHAT THE CITY DOES WITH
3:07:52PM YOUR PHONE, THE TECHNOLOGY IS YOU HAVE TO MAKE A BACKUP OF
3:07:56PM THE COMPLETE CONTENTS OF YOUR PHONE.
3:07:58PM THAT MEANS THE CITY HAS A COPY OF EVERY TEXT MESSAGE, EVERY
3:08:02PM E-MAIL YOU EVER SENT ON YOUR PERSONAL PHONE AND THEN THEY
3:08:05PM SEARCH THE DATA THAT'S THERE.
3:08:06PM EVEN IF THEY SAY THEY DELETE IT, IT'S STILL PUBLIC RECORD.
3:08:11PM TYPICALLY, THEY ARE BREAKING -- TECHNICALLY THEY ARE
3:08:14PM BREAKING PUBLIC RECORDS LAW BY DELETING IT ONCE IT'S THERE.
3:08:17PM LITTLE BIT OF GRAY AREA.
3:08:19PM EVEN IF DELETED, NOT DELETED UNTIL SOMEBODY SCANS OVER IT
3:08:22PM AND SOMEBODY DOING A FORENSIC SEARCH ON THE SERVER CAN FIND
3:08:27PM IT.
3:08:29PM HAVING AN ETHICS COMMISSION THAT REPORTS TO THE MAYOR,
3:08:32PM ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MAYOR IS ADVERSE TO CITY COUNCIL IS NOT
3:08:34PM A GOOD SITUATION.
3:08:36PM I WOULD ASK THAT WE ASK --
3:08:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SHE'S NOT ADVERSE TO CITY COUNCIL.
3:08:41PM I DON'T SEE THAT.
3:08:42PM YOU-ALL HAVE DISAGREED.
3:08:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ETHICS COMMISSION, WE AND MEMBERS OF THE
3:08:46PM PUBLIC HAVE ASKED THE ETHICS COMMISSION TO NOT JUST LOOK AT
3:08:49PM CITY COUNCIL, BUT TO LOOK AT -- ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT
3:08:52PM THE MAYOR SPECIFICALLY HAS ASKED THIS COMMISSION TO COME UP
3:08:56PM WITH IS TO REQUIRE ME TO PUT THE NAME OF MY CLIENT EVEN IF
3:09:01PM I'M UNDER ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE REQUIRED NOT TO DO THAT.
3:09:05PM OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S NARROWLY TARGETED AT ME.
3:09:08PM WHEN IT COMES BACK, I'LL MAKE THIS ARGUMENT AGAIN.
3:09:11PM WHEN WE AND THE PUBLIC HAVE ASKED THE ETHICS COMMISSION TO
3:09:13PM LOOK AT WHAT ABOUT THE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST OF THE MAYOR,
3:09:16PM THEY REFUSE TO EVEN LOOK AT THEM.
3:09:18PM AND THOSE CONFLICTS HAVE BEEN LAID OUT IN THE MEDIA, ALLEGED
3:09:22PM CONFLICTS AND NOBODY IS EVEN LOOKING AT THEM.
3:09:24PM THEY ARE REFUSING TO LOOK AT THAT BUT LOOK AT ISSUES WITH US
3:09:27PM AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS THAT IS A BIG PROBLEM.
3:09:29PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE STAFF COME BACK --
3:09:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU MADE A MOTION ALREADY AND A SECOND.
3:09:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE CAN GET MORE INTO IT ANOTHER TIME.
3:09:40PM JUST GIVING A SMALL TASTE OF IT.
3:09:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HENDERSON, MIRANDA, VIERA, CLENDENIN.
3:09:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS INTERESTING
3:09:50PM INFORMATION.
3:09:51PM I THINK WHAT I WOULD JUST SAY IS WHY YOU CARE SO MUCH, AND
3:09:56PM YOU'VE WON THE ELECTION.
3:09:57PM YOU WON.
3:09:59PM I DON'T KNOW.
3:09:59PM IT SEEMS LIKE YOU DO A LOT OF DEEPER DIVING INTO WHAT PEOPLE
3:10:03PM ARE SAYING ABOUT YOU.
3:10:05PM IF THIS COMMISSION --
3:10:08PM >>BILL CARLSON: SUED AND SUBPOENAS.
3:10:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: UNDERSTOOD.
3:10:13PM HOW DOES THIS ETHICS COMMISSION COME ABOUT?
3:10:16PM WHO DECIDES WHO SITS ON THIS COMMISSION IS MY ONLY QUESTION?
3:10:26PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
3:10:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE THE ATTORNEY HERE.
3:10:31PM >> HAMILTON FROM LEGAL.
3:10:33PM SECTION 2-651 OF OUR CITY CODE SPECIFIES THE COMPOSITION OF
3:10:41PM THE ETHICS COMMISSION.
3:10:43PM THERE ARE FIVE MEMBERS.
3:10:44PM THE PRESIDENT OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BAR ASSOCIATION
3:10:50PM APPOINTS ONE FORMER FEDERAL JUDGE OR FORMER UNITED STATES
3:10:54PM MAGISTRATE OR FORMER STATE COURT JUDGE.
3:10:58PM ALSO APPOINTS ONE FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY OR ASSISTANT U.S.
3:11:02PM ATTORNEY, FORMER STATE ATTORNEY, OR ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY
3:11:05PM FROM OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY OR ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY OR
3:11:10PM FORMER CITY ATTORNEY OR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
3:11:12PM THE DEAN OF STETSON UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW APPOINTS ONE
3:11:18PM FULL-TIME OR ADJUNCT FACILITY FACULTY MEMBER FROM THE LAW
3:11:24PM SCHOOL.
3:11:25PM THEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA OR THE
3:11:28PM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA ALSO APPOINTS ONE FULL-TIME OR ADJUNCT
3:11:32PM FACULTY MEMBER AND THEN MAYOR APPOINTS ONE MEMBER.
3:11:36PM SO THE MAYOR ONLY APPOINTS ONE OUT OF THE FIVE.
3:11:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO QUESTIONS.
3:11:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
3:11:48PM I DON'T WANT THIS TO TURN INTO A WORKSHOP BECAUSE WE DO HAVE
3:11:50PM A MOTION.
3:11:51PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN VIERA.
3:11:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T CARE IN MY CASE OR ANY OTHER
3:11:57PM CASE, I DON'T CARE WHAT PHONE I HAVE, CITY PHONE, COUNTY
3:12:00PM PHONE, MY PHONE, THEIR PHONE, MY SISTER'S PHONE, IF THEY
3:12:03PM WANT TO FIND SOMETHING, IT'S ALL IN THE CLOUD.
3:12:06PM ALL OF IT AND IT STAYS IN THE CLOUD.
3:12:09PM AND THEY CAN FIND IT WHETHER YOU HAVE THE PHONE OR YOU DON'T
3:12:11PM HAVE THE PHONE.
3:12:12PM THAT'S HOW TECHNOLOGY WORKS.
3:12:15PM THEY KNOW, THE AGENCIES KNOW HOW TO GET ANYTHING OUT OF YOUR
3:12:19PM PHONE AT ANY TIME THEY WANT.
3:12:22PM SECONDLY, WHEN I RECUSE MYSELF, I ALWAYS SAY THIS.
3:12:27PM IT'S EITHER A GAME FOR ME OR A -- GAIN FOR ME OR A LOSS FOR
3:12:31PM ME.
3:12:32PM I RECUSE MYSELF BECAUSE I RUN ON TRUST.
3:12:40PM I RECUSE MYSELF BECAUSE EITHER A GAIN OR LOSS.
3:12:43PM I DON'T CARE IF IT IS A PENNY.
3:12:46PM I DON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE.
3:12:48PM THAT IS IT.
3:12:49PM NOT ABOUT MY AUNT OR MY COUSIN.
3:12:52PM THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS ABOUT ME.
3:12:54PM AND THAT'S ALL I DO.
3:12:56PM THEY CAN COME AFTER ME FROM ALL ANGLES.
3:13:01PM I'LL LAUGH AT ALL OF THEM BECAUSE IT'S WHAT IS UP HERE IN MY
3:13:06PM CONSCIENCE THAT TELLS ME, COME AFTER ME.
3:13:08PM I'VE GOT NOTHING TO HIDE.
3:13:10PM I DON'T GET MAD AT NOBODY.
3:13:12PM YOU COULD WASTE ALL THE TIME YOU WANT.
3:13:14PM I DON'T CARE IF IT IS THE MAYOR.
3:13:16PM I DON'T CARE IF IT IS THE FEDERAL JUDGE, SUPREME COURT, I
3:13:18PM DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS.
3:13:20PM I'M LAUGHING AT THEM.
3:13:21PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:13:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILMAN
3:13:25PM CLENDENIN.
3:13:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:13:27PM WHAT I WOULD REQUEST AND I'LL MAKE THIS REQUEST IS TO
3:13:31PM RESTATE THE MOTION.
3:13:35PM I'LL STATE WHY.
3:13:36PM WE GOT TO BE CAREFUL ON THIS DISCUSSION TO NOT TAKE A WRONG
3:13:41PM TURN AND JUST KEEP GOING.
3:13:43PM I HEAR WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS SAID OVER THE LAST FEW
3:13:46PM YEARS.
3:13:47PM I'LL TELL YOU GUYS THIS.
3:13:48PM LAST FEW YEARS IF YOU SERVED ON COUNCIL WERE NOT EASY.
3:13:51PM SOMETIMES I WAS JOKING WITH SOMEONE, GO TO THE CITY
3:13:53PM ATTORNEY'S OFFICE -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD PTSD -- IN
3:13:59PM OTHER WORDS YOU GO UP THERE FOR SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OVER
3:14:01PM THE LAST FEW YEARS AND IT'S BEEN VERY DIFFICULT.
3:14:03PM THAT'S NO COMMENTARY ON THE WONDERFUL PUBLIC SERVANTS AND
3:14:07PM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
3:14:08PM JUST SOME OF THE CONFLICT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
3:14:11PM WHEN I RAN FOR OFFICE IN 2019, UNFORESEEABLE.
3:14:15PM I DON'T DOUBT THAT.
3:14:17PM MY ISSUE IS WITH THE MOTION AS STATED, COUNCILMAN, THAT IT
3:14:20PM WOULD APPEAR THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE A POTENTIAL REVIEW OF THE
3:14:24PM ETHICS COMMISSION FOR POTENTIAL CHANGES.
3:14:26PM IF YOU WERE TO STATE IT THAT WAY WITHOUT A NUMBER OF
3:14:29PM PRESUMPTIONS AND ALLEGATIONS, PRESUMPTIONS AND ALLEGATIONS
3:14:34PM I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF.
3:14:35PM I'M NOT OPPOSED TO.
3:14:37PM I JUST DON'T WANT THOSE TO BE BUILT INTO THE MOTION, IF YOU
3:14:40PM UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING, SIR.
3:14:42PM IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO IMPROVE OUR ETHICS COMMISSION
3:14:45PM WITHOUT BRINGING INTO IT OTHER EXTERNAL ISSUES THAT, AGAIN,
3:14:50PM WILL TAKE A WRONG TURN AND JUST KEEP GOING, I'M FINE WITH
3:14:53PM THAT.
3:14:54PM AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE ETHICS
3:14:57PM COMMISSION THAT WILL THEN TURN INTO A RECITATION OVER THE
3:15:01PM LAST YEARS, NOT BECAUSE WE CAN'T SPEAK OVER THE LAST FEW
3:15:04PM YEARS.
3:15:04PM THAT'S FINE.
3:15:05PM OBVIOUSLY NO INJUNCTION IN THAT REGARD.
3:15:07PM I JUST DON'T WANT TO TURN IT INTO LIKE A MINI-WHATEVER.
3:15:11PM AGAIN, LOOK, I HAVE OPINIONS.
3:15:13PM TRUST ME.
3:15:14PM BELIEVE ME YOU I DO.
3:15:16PM I DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT MAKES A NUMBER OF
3:15:18PM ALLEGATIONS THAT I NEITHER ADMIT OR DENY.
3:15:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AGREE WITH YOU, BY THE WAY.
3:15:22PM I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT AGAIN.
3:15:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:15:26PM I HAVEN'T SPOKEN.
3:15:27PM PICK ME.
3:15:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY SPEAK TO -- SOUND
3:15:35PM BIPOLAR ON THIS BECAUSE I COME FROM A LABOR BACKGROUND.
3:15:40PM AND I DEFINITELY BELIEVE THAT YOU COME FOR US ONE, YOU COME
3:15:45PM FOR US ALL.
3:15:46PM AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE A U.S. CONSTITUTION, AND WE HAVE
3:15:51PM PROTECTIONS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PROTECT THE MINORITY TO BE
3:15:56PM ABLE TO PROTECT THE MAJORITY.
3:16:01PM I'M EMPATHETIC WITH A LOT OF THE THINGS SAID TODAY.
3:16:04PM I WASN'T HERE.
3:16:06PM I DON'T KNOW ALL THESE THINGS.
3:16:07PM I DO KNOW ON PRINCIPLE THAT YOU HAVE TO CREATE A SYSTEM THAT
3:16:13PM SYSTEMICALLY DOES PROTECT ALL.
3:16:16PM I THINK WE CAN SEARCH FOR A MORE PERFECT SYSTEM.
3:16:21PM RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I CAN SEE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT
3:16:27PM IN THE COMPOSITION OF THIS COMMITTEE.
3:16:30PM YEAH, I WOULD BE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION, AS
3:16:34PM COUNCILMAN VIERA'S POINTS WERE WELL TAKEN, WITHOUT THE STUFF
3:16:39PM AND I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON AGREED AS WELL AND I WOULD BE
3:16:43PM WILLING TO ACCEPT THAT MOTION.
3:16:44PM THANK YOU.
3:16:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:16:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAD TO SAY THAT FROM PERSONAL
3:16:51PM EXPERIENCE, NO, THE GOVERNMENT CANNOT READ EVERYTHING.
3:16:54PM IT TAKES A REALLY LONG TIME FOR THEM TO TRY TO BREAK INTO
3:16:59PM PASSWORD-PROTECTED ITEMS.
3:17:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WASN'T TALKING ABOUT YOUR CASE.
3:17:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
3:17:05PM IT'S NOT MY CASE.
3:17:07PM I'LL JUST SAY iPhones, I'M GOING TO SAY, iPhones, GREAT
3:17:11PM SECURITY.
3:17:12PM BUT, YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID.
3:17:20PM IT'S KIND OF COME FOR ONE COME FOR ALL.
3:17:24PM I REALLY -- YOU KNOW, I KIND OF JOINED COUNCIL AT THE END OF
3:17:28PM THAT TRAUMATIC TIME, AND IT WAS REALLY CLEAR THAT THE
3:17:32PM COUNCIL WHEN I JOINED HAD BEEN VERY TRAUMATIZED.
3:17:34PM BY WHAT HAD OCCURRED.
3:17:37PM SO IN THIS AREA, I DEFER TO THEM.
3:17:44PM I DEFER TO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE AND SUPPORT -- I DON'T
3:17:49PM THINK THERE'S ANY HARM WITH LOOKING AT A POLICY.
3:17:53PM I ALSO BELIEVE THAT OUR CURRENT CITY ATTORNEY IS VERY OPEN
3:17:58PM TO DISCUSSING CHANGES, AND WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
3:18:02PM AGAIN, WITH A MORE BROAD FOCUS, I THINK THAT THIS HAS BEEN
3:18:09PM DISCUSSED BEFORE.
3:18:10PM AND IT'S PROBABLY TIME NOW THAT WE'RE THROUGH THE ELECTIONS.
3:18:15PM WE'RE THROUGH THE BUDGET.
3:18:16PM PROBABLY TIME TO BRING IT BACK, JUST LIKE WE'RE TALKING
3:18:18PM ABOUT THINGS LIKE PROTECTING COUNCIL BY HAVING -- WELL, A
3:18:25PM BUDGET ANALYST BUT REALLY I'M THINKING ABOUT THE LEGAL
3:18:27PM PROTECTIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
3:18:30PM IT'S KIND OF A GOOD TIME TO REVISIT ALL OF THAT.
3:18:34PM JUST, YEAH.
3:18:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER --
3:18:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: RESTATE THE MOTION, PLEASE.
3:18:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCES
3:18:56PM FOR THE ETHICS -- THE CITY ETHICS COMMISSION AND PRESENT ON
3:19:01PM JANUARY 25 IDEAS TO MAKE IT MORE EQUITABLE, TRANSPARENT, AND
3:19:06PM OBJECTIVE.
3:19:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:19:08PM CARLSON.
3:19:09PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
3:19:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU OBJECT TO THAT?
3:19:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
3:19:16PM I'M SORRY.
3:19:17PM SOUNDS LIKE I'M DRAFTING A LEGAL DOCUMENT.
3:19:19PM MORE TRANSPARENT AND OBJECTIVE, I WOULD JUST SAY, IF I MAY,
3:19:23PM AGAIN, IT'S YOUR MOTION, PROPOSALS TO IMPROVE IT.
3:19:26PM THAT'S IT.
3:19:27PM AGAIN, IN VOTING FOR THIS I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T WANT
3:19:29PM THIS THING TO TURN.
3:19:30PM AGAIN, PEOPLE'S OPINIONS ARE THEIR OWN, ET CETERA,
3:19:33PM ET CETERA.
3:19:33PM BUT INTO A MECHANISM FOR LARGER ISSUES OF THE PAST,
3:19:39PM ET CETERA.
3:19:39PM BUT, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE, WHICH IS FOR
3:19:42PM POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
3:19:45PM >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION, ANDREA ZELMAN.
3:19:48PM IF WHAT YOU'RE SEEKING IS TO INCREASE THE MEMBERSHIP OR
3:19:53PM INCREASE THE NUMBER OF APPOINTMENTS AND ALLOW CITY COUNCIL
3:19:56PM TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE APPOINTMENTS, YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION
3:20:02PM SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.
3:20:02PM AGAIN, YOU'RE THE LEGISLATORS.
3:20:05PM THIS IS WHERE YOU GET TO LEGISLATE AND YOU COULD CHANGE THE
3:20:09PM CODE TO CHANGE THE WAY IN WHICH THE MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED OR
3:20:15PM WHO IS APPOINTED.
3:20:17PM ASKING US TO COME BACK AND SUGGEST WAYS, AGAIN, I WOULD ASK
3:20:22PM YOU, IF WHAT IT IS YOU WANT TO ADD IS MORE CITY COUNCIL
3:20:28PM APPOINTEES.
3:20:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK YOU CAN REVIEW IT AND I CAN TALK TO
3:20:32PM YOU OFF-LINE.
3:20:33PM TALK ABOUT IT AT THAT TIME.
3:20:35PM SET A WORKSHOP DATE AND COME BACK WITH SPECIFIC
3:20:38PM RECOMMENDATIONS.
3:20:39PM YOU CAN SUGGEST THEM OR WE CAN SUGGEST THEM.
3:20:41PM ONE WOULD BE TO LET THE ETHICS COMMISSION KNOW THERE ARE TWO
3:20:44PM BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT.
3:20:45PM BASED ON WHAT YOU SAID, I CHANGED THE END OF IT TO SAY
3:20:49PM RETURN ON JANUARY 25 -- OR PRESENT ON JANUARY 25 IDEAS TO
3:20:54PM MAKE -- SORRY -- IDEAS TO MAKE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS.
3:21:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE SECOND IS THERE.
3:21:03PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN CLENDENIN.
3:21:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVERYTHING WAS FINE AND DANDY UNTIL THE
3:21:09PM ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY CAME UP AND SAID THE NAMES OF THE
3:21:11PM PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE, WHAT THEY WERE IN THE PAST, WHAT
3:21:14PM POSITION THEY HELD, AND THEN THE MAYOR GOT ONE VOTE OUT OF
3:21:18PM FIVE.
3:21:18PM THERE ARE FIVE MEMBERS, RIGHT?
3:21:19PM SO 20% OUT OF 100.
3:21:22PM I DON'T THINK YOU CAN CONTROL ANY ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
3:21:29PM FORGET WHO THEY ARE, BUT IT'S WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE
3:21:32PM PAST THAT THEY HAVE COME FROM AN AREA THAT YOU HAVE TO BE
3:21:36PM WITHIN THE LINE.
3:21:38PM YOU CAN'T GO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
3:21:39PM YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO GET YOURSELF IN TROUBLE.
3:21:42PM I'M HAPPY WITH THE WAY IT'S STRUCTURED.
3:21:45PM I'M NOT MAKING A CHANGE AND I DON'T WANT TO APPOINT ONE
3:21:48PM PERSON TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION THAT'S GOING TO BE MAYBE,
3:21:52PM COINCIDENTALLY FAVORING ANYTHING I WANT.
3:21:55PM I WANT IT TO BE UNBIASED FOR ME.
3:21:57PM GO OUT AND DO WHAT YOU WANT.
3:22:00PM YOU WANT TO CHECK ON ME, COME ON IN, BABY.
3:22:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WAS NEXT.
3:22:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, OUR COUNSEL ASKED ME TO DISCLOSE
3:22:13PM BECAUSE I PASSED MY iPAD OVER TO COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
3:22:16PM DISCLOSE WHAT I PASSED IT OVER FOR.
3:22:18PM I HAD THE FILE FROM SIRE FROM THE AGENDA HIGHLIGHTING WHAT
3:22:22PM THE COMMISSION MAKEUP WAS SO SHE COULD READ IT OFF OF THE
3:22:25PM DOCUMENT ITSELF.
3:22:26PM THAT'S WHAT I PASSED TO HER.
3:22:28PM I JUST WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD, SO IF PEOPLE SAW IT, THEY
3:22:32PM DIDN'T THINK SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS, WEIRD WAS GOING ON.
3:22:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT IS CORRECT.
3:22:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
3:22:41PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, HURTAK.
3:22:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO SAY IF WE WANTED TO TAKE
3:22:45PM EVERYTHING OUT, THEN WE MOVE IT TO A FOUR-PERSON COMMISSION
3:22:49PM AND TAKE THE MAYOR'S APPOINTEE OUT.
3:22:51PM SOMETHING WE CAN DEBATE LATER.
3:22:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE PROBLEM IS THAT I'D RATHER NOT NAME
3:22:57PM NAMES, BUT ONE OF THEM WHO IS NOT APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR,
3:23:00PM FORMER CITY ATTORNEY WHO DURING THE CHARTER DISCUSSION LAST
3:23:03PM YEAR WROTE A LETTER TO US SAYING THAT WE SHOULD NOT CHANGE
3:23:07PM THE CHARTER AND GAVE A WHOLE LEGAL OPINION.
3:23:09PM SO THAT SHOWS THAT THAT PERSON HAS A CERTAIN POINT OF VIEW.
3:23:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: [INAUDIBLE]
3:23:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES, MY POINT IS THAT -- THE FACT THAT THAT
3:23:25PM PERSON IS ON THERE, IT MEANS THE MAYOR HAS ANOTHER ALLY.
3:23:28PM ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WROTE A LETTER A YEAR AGO --
3:23:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS, BECAUSE
3:23:33PM THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL.
3:23:36PM WE HAVE A MOTION, WE HAVE A SECOND.
3:23:38PM DO YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK FOR A WORKSHOP?
3:23:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: POINT OF ORDER.
3:23:43PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS SPEAKING, CHAIR, AND YOU SHOULD LET
3:23:47PM HIM FINISH HIS SENTENCE.
3:23:49PM YOU SHOULD DO THAT.
3:23:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOTION TO ASK STAFF TO REVIEW THE ORDINANCES
3:23:58PM FOR THE CITY ETHICS COMMISSION AND PRESENT ON JANUARY 25th
3:24:01PM IDEAS TO MAKE POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS.
3:24:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN SUPPORT THAT.
3:24:05PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON HAS A MOTION, SECOND FROM
3:24:08PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:24:13PM >> YOU WANT IT AS A WORKSHOP --
3:24:17PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
3:24:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: FEBRUARY 22.
3:24:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 22.
3:24:25PM THIS IS A WORKSHOP DATE.
3:24:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK I KNOW WHO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
3:24:33PM IF IT IS THE GENTLEMAN I KNOW, THERE IS NOBODY, IF IT IS THE
3:24:36PM PERSON I KNOW, THERE IS NOBODY WITH MORE PROFESSIONAL
3:24:39PM INTEGRITY AND DECENCY AND A BETTER HUMAN BEING.
3:24:42PM AND I WOULD REJECT ANY IDEA THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL, IF IT IS
3:24:46PM WHO I THINK IT IS, IS IN ANY WAY PARTIAL TO ONE SIDE OR THE
3:24:50PM OTHER.
3:24:52PM AGAIN, I WILL SUPPORT YOUR MOTION FOR THE ISOLATED INTENT,
3:24:54PM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I CITE THAT, IF IT IS THE
3:24:57PM INDIVIDUAL I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
3:24:58PM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO NAME NAMES, SO TO SPEAK, BUT THAT'S
3:25:01PM ALL.
3:25:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO SET THIS FOR A
3:25:03PM WORKSHOP IN FEBRUARY FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
3:25:05PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:25:06PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:25:07PM AYE.
3:25:08PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:25:10PM >> AYE.
3:25:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I OPPOSED BECAUSE NEVER CHARGED WITH ANY
3:25:13PM WRONGDOING.
3:25:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVEN'T EITHER.
3:25:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
3:25:18PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO.
3:25:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE WE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER
3:25:22PM 28?
3:25:22PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND FROM
3:25:38PM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, ALL IN FAVOR.
3:25:40PM ALL RIGHT.
3:25:41PM LET'S MOVE ON HERE.
3:25:46PM MR. BHIDE, ITEM NUMBER 65.
3:25:52PM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR, GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
3:25:54PM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT HERE TO
3:25:57PM ADDRESS ITEM 65.
3:25:59PM THIS IS THE 27 QUARTERLY STORMWATER PROJECT REPORT OR
3:26:07PM UPDATE.
3:26:10PM AS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL, THIS OUTLINES VARIOUS STORMWATER
3:26:14PM CIP PROJECTS, AND I THINK ABOUT THREE MONTHS BACK WE STARTED
3:26:20PM INCLUDING, OR AS OF THE LAST QUARTERLY REPORT, WE STARTED
3:26:24PM INCLUDING AT COUNCIL'S REQUEST SOME SMALLER PROJECTS THAT
3:26:29PM RELATE TO REPAIR, REPAIRING DITCHES AND SO ON.
3:26:35PM AT THIS TIME, I'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
3:26:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. BHIDE, THIS MORNING, A GENTLEMAN HAD
3:26:41PM COME TO SPEAK FROM TAMPA HEIGHTS.
3:26:45PM I MAY HAVE -- I FORWARDED IT TO MY AIDE LAST WEEK OR THE
3:26:50PM WEEK BEFORE, BUT I KNOW THAT SERVING ON THE TPO AND SOME
3:26:56PM OTHER MEMBERS SERVE THERE WITH ME, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION
3:27:00PM ABOUT STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS ON TAMPA STREET AND FLORIDA
3:27:02PM AVENUE.
3:27:03PM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE THOSE PROJECTS I THINK TWO
3:27:07PM YEARS OUT, BUT THE FLOODING THAT THIS GENTLEMAN AND HIS
3:27:12PM NEIGHBORS ARE EXPERIENCING, I THINK THEY REALLY FEEL THE
3:27:16PM BRUNT OF IT.
3:27:17PM LAST NIGHT OR YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AROUND 4:00, I DROVE DOWN
3:27:20PM TAMPA STREET TO COME BACK TO CITY HALL, AND THE LEFT LANE
3:27:25PM SOUTHBOUND ON TAMPA STREET AS YOU APPROACH -- LET'S SAY
3:27:30PM SOUTH OF COLUMBUS DRIVE OR FLORIBRASKA, I FORGOT WHERE, BUT
3:27:35PM IT'S IMPASSABLE.
3:27:36PM IT WAS A STRONG STORM.
3:27:39PM IT WAS QUICK, BUT IT OVERWHELMED THE SYSTEM AND THAT LANE
3:27:43PM WAS COMPLETELY BLOCKED.
3:27:45PM I KNOW THAT'S F.D.O.T. BECAUSE IT IS TAMPA STREET.
3:27:47PM BUT IN THE ALLEY THAT THEY ARE DISCUSSING THERE, I BELIEVE
3:27:51PM IT WAS FRANCES WAS ONE OF THE ROADS, THEY EXPERIENCED
3:27:55PM SIGNIFICANT FLOODING.
3:27:57PM AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT WAS FROM NEWER CONSTRUCTION
3:28:02PM THAT HAS TRIGGERED THAT THAT WAS APPROVED.
3:28:04PM AND THEY HAVE FLOODING QUITE OFTEN.
3:28:07PM AND NOW THAT WE'RE IN THE RAINY SEASON, AS THE SUMMER GOES
3:28:10PM INTO THE FALL AND HURRICANE SEASON AND WHATNOT, THEY ARE
3:28:13PM SAYING THE WORST OF IT.
3:28:16PM I KNOW WE'RE ON A SCHEDULE AND I KNOW F.D.O.T. PROJECTS.
3:28:19PM BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT, THE
3:28:21PM STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, FROM THE FUNDS
3:28:25PM THERE, ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE ANY AVAILABLE FUNDS IN THAT
3:28:28PM THAT WE HAVEN'T SPENT OR WE COME UNDER BUDGET, COULD WE
3:28:32PM REALLOCATE THOSE AND PERHAPS LOOK AT SOME STORMWATER RELIEF
3:28:36PM FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS?
3:28:38PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
3:28:39PM I'LL ADDRESS THAT.
3:28:43PM JUST A QUICK BACKGROUND, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
3:28:45PM IT IS AN F.D.O.T. PROJECT ON TAMPA AND FLORIDA AS PART OF
3:28:48PM THE HEIGHTS GRANT THAT F.D.O.T. AND WE SUPPORT IT.
3:28:54PM THE STORMWATER COMPONENT WAS ACTUALLY ADDED AT THE CITY'S
3:28:59PM REQUEST.
3:28:59PM THIS WAS NOT PART OF THE PROJECT, KNOWING SOME OF THE
3:29:02PM CHALLENGES IN THIS AREA.
3:29:04PM HAVING SAID THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE ALSO THAT THIS
3:29:09PM IS NOT AS A BASIN, THE ENTIRE BASIN DOES NOT HAVE A
3:29:15PM CHALLENGE, WHICH IS WHERE, AND YOU WERE THERE WHEN WE DID
3:29:18PM THE FIRST STORMWATER FORUMS AND STORMWATER CIP, IDENTIFIES.
3:29:26PM IT'S TO ADDRESS BROADER BASIN TYPE CHALLENGES.
3:29:29PM HAVING SAID THAT, WE DO HAVE SMALLER PROJECTS AND ESPECIALLY
3:29:34PM THIS ALLEY NORTH OF FRANCES, WHICH IS GENERALLY FOUR BLOCKS
3:29:38PM NORTH OF PALM ALONG TAMPA, DOES HAVE CHALLENGES.
3:29:43PM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN COUNCIL BEFORE.
3:29:46PM SOME OF THE NEWER DEVELOPMENTS NATURALLY CAN MEET CODE ARE
3:29:50PM BUILT HIGHER THAN SOME OF THE OLDER DEVELOPMENTS AND THEY
3:29:53PM CHANNELIZE SOME WATER, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S MITIGATION
3:29:57PM ON-SITE.
3:29:57PM THIS DOES HAPPEN, AND WE DID LOOK AT A POTENTIAL PROJECT
3:30:04PM BECAUSE THE F.D.O.T. PROJECT IN CONNECTION IS GOING TO BE
3:30:07PM TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
3:30:09PM THE COST OF THAT PROJECT WILL BE UNDER $50,000 BECAUSE THE
3:30:14PM CITY JUST HAS TO CONNECT TO THE PIPE ON TAMPA STREET, WHICH
3:30:18PM IS LITERALLY FOUR PROPERTIES AWAY FROM THE GENTLEMAN THAT
3:30:23PM CAME UP TODAY.
3:30:23PM THE OTHER PROJECT THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS RUNNING A SYSTEM
3:30:29PM ACROSS FRANCES DOWN TO PALM.
3:30:32PM WE COSTED THAT OUT, AND THE COST OF THAT SYSTEM IS OVER HALF
3:30:36PM A MILLION DOLLARS.
3:30:38PM NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO SCENARIOS, AND WE UNDERSTAND THE
3:30:45PM COMMUNITY'S CONCERN AROUND LOCALIZED FLOODING THAT IMPACTS
3:30:48PM THOSE FEW PROPERTIES ON THE ALLEY.
3:30:50PM IT'S NOT THAT WE DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
3:30:54PM DO WE SPEND OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TODAY, WHICH WOULD
3:30:59PM TAKE AWAY -- WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY TAKE AWAY FROM OTHER
3:31:03PM PLANNED PROJECTS OR DO WE LEVERAGE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT
3:31:09PM UNDER $50,000 TWO YEARS FROM NOW BECAUSE F.D.O.T. WILL LAY A
3:31:13PM PIPE ON TAMPA STREET.
3:31:15PM THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT DECISION.
3:31:16PM LOOKING AT ALL THE FACTS, UNDERSTANDING THE VERY VALID
3:31:21PM CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS ON THIS ALLEY, AND ALSO
3:31:25PM RECOGNIZING THAT THESE CONCERNS EXIST IN A LOT OF OTHER
3:31:30PM PLACES IN TAMPA, OUR RECOMMENDATION AT THE STAFF LEVEL IS
3:31:34PM THAT WE WAIT FOR THAT $50,000 PROJECT FOR TWO YEARS FROM NOW
3:31:40PM BECAUSE THAT IS THE MOST COST FEASIBLE SOLUTION FOR THE CITY
3:31:45PM AT-LARGE AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
3:31:49PM BUT THAT'S OUR POSITION RIGHT NOW.
3:31:51PM I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL DETAILS.
3:31:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:31:55PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:31:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
3:31:57PM I JUST WANT TO ASK I.T., ALL DAY, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
3:32:03PM SPEAKING REMOTELY HAVE BEEN VERY HARD TO HEAR.
3:32:06PM IF THERE IS A WAY TO INCREASE THE VOLUME ON THAT, I WOULD
3:32:09PM GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.
3:32:10PM BUT ALL I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT I LOVE THIS REPORT.
3:32:14PM I LOVE GETTING IT.
3:32:16PM IT'S THE CLEAREST AND MOST CONCISE REPORT WE GET ALL YEAR.
3:32:19PM IT'S VERY VISUAL.
3:32:21PM IT HAS VERY SHORT SENTENCES THAT REALLY GET SIMPLY TO WHAT
3:32:25PM YOU'RE DOING, LIKE NO GOVERNMENT-SPEAK.
3:32:28PM IT'S JUST WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
3:32:29PM AT THE VERY END, IT'S TWO PHENOMENALLY QUICK PIE CHARTS THAT
3:32:34PM SHOW HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT, HOW MUCH MONEY WE
3:32:38PM BONDED, HOW MUCH MONEY IS ENCUMBERED, AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE
3:32:42PM HAVE LEFT.
3:32:42PM I JUST WISH -- I MEAN, I KNOW WE CAN'T HAVE THEM ALL THAT
3:32:47PM WAY.
3:32:47PM AND I'VE SAID THIS TO MS. DUNCAN HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THOSE
3:32:51PM REPORTS AND HOW MAKING THEM AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC IS VERY
3:32:59PM HELPFUL.
3:32:59PM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
3:33:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:33:02PM >>VIK BHIDE: AND THE CREDIT GOES TO OUR STORMWATER
3:33:04PM ENGINEERING STAFF.
3:33:06PM THEY EXECUTE THE BONDS IN THE PROJECTS VERY, VERY WELL.
3:33:10PM THEY CLEARLY DO AN EXCELLENT JOB.
3:33:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:33:13PM YOU ALL DO A WONDERFUL JOB.
3:33:15PM YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
3:33:16PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ALWAYS BEING RESPONSIVE.
3:33:18PM THANK YOU, SIR.
3:33:19PM >>VIK BHIDE: THANK YOU.
3:33:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
3:33:21PM LAST ITEM OF THE AGENDA.
3:33:27PM MR. BENSON.
3:33:30PM FIRST, LET ME SAY THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND WE'RE
3:33:35PM REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU HERE AND YOU'RE BRILLIANT AND DO
3:33:39PM YOU AN AMAZING JOB.
3:33:41PM THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE
3:33:49PM YOU HERE.
3:33:50PM AGAIN, YOU'RE EXCEPTIONAL.
3:33:54PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:33:56PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
3:33:57PM STEPHEN BENSON, CITY PLANNING.
3:33:58PM THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 68, A MOTION RELATED TO AMENDING OR
3:34:03PM MODIFYING THE BOUNDARY OF THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND
3:34:08PM MOVING IT TO THE EAST TO ALIGN WITH CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
3:34:12PM AND TO LOOK AT THE FEASIBILITY OF DOING SO AND WHAT THAT
3:34:17PM WOULD ENTAIL AND PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION.
3:34:19PM SO WE LOOKED AT BOTH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE FUTURE LAND
3:34:23PM USE MAP WHICH IS WHAT IS ON THE SCREEN AND WE ALSO LOOKED AT
3:34:28PM THE UNDERLYING ZONING AND THE REGULATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH
3:34:32PM THE CBD ZONING AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT ZONING.
3:34:35PM YOU CAN SEE THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP IS BINDING.
3:34:43PM IT'S EITHER CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT OR CHANNEL DISTRICT,
3:34:46PM WHICH IS REFLECTED BY THE REGIONAL MIXED USE 100
3:34:49PM DESIGNATION.
3:34:49PM I'LL TRY TO CUT TO THE CHASE HERE WITH WHAT OUR
3:34:49PM DETERMINATION IS.
3:34:59PM THERE IS A BENEFIT THAT WE SEE IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT,
3:35:03PM WHICH IS THAT YOU HAVE A BONUS CEILING IN THE CHANNEL
3:35:07PM DISTRICT, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU CAN ESSENTIALLY EXCHANGE
3:35:13PM ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS FOR SOME TYPE OF PUBLIC
3:35:19PM BENEFIT, WHEREAS IN DOWNTOWN, THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS HAVE
3:35:21PM ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED NOT UNDER THAT PROGRAM.
3:35:24PM SO THERE IS UNLIMITED DENSITY, UNLIMITED INTENSITY IN
3:35:27PM DOWNTOWN, IN THE CBD, WHEREAS IN CHANNEL DISTRICT, THERE IS
3:35:31PM A LIMIT.
3:35:32PM LIMIT IS 3.5 F.A.R. AND THE DOUBLING OF THAT COMES WITH A
3:35:36PM PUBLIC BENEFIT.
3:35:37PM THAT'S WHAT THE BONUS AGREEMENTS THAT COME BEFORE YOU,
3:35:39PM THAT'S WHERE THAT IS DERIVED FROM.
3:35:41PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DENSITY SIDE OF THE EQUATION, YOU CAN
3:35:45PM DOUBLE YOUR DENSITY IF YOU ENGAGE WITH THE CITY IN THE BONUS
3:35:49PM PROGRAM.
3:35:49PM WHAT THAT MEANS IN PROJECT TERMS, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A
3:35:55PM PROJECT THAT YOU APPROVED LAST YEAR, 1242 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
3:36:00PM THIS IS JUST THE IMAGE THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER
3:36:03PM THERE.
3:36:04PM AND THAT PROJECT HAD 532 UNITS, 54 OF WHICH WERE SET ASIDE
3:36:11PM FOR AFFORDABLE, AS AFFORDABLE UNITS FOR 30 YEARS.
3:36:14PM HALF OF THOSE WERE 80%.
3:36:16PM HALF 120.
3:36:17PM IF THIS WAS DONE DOWNTOWN, THAT MECHANISM DOESN'T EXIST TO
3:36:21PM EXTRACT AFFORDABLE UNITS AND TO ASK FOR THAT COMMITMENT FROM
3:36:25PM THE DEVELOPER.
3:36:26PM THEY COULD HAVE BUILT 532 WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF A COMMITMENT.
3:36:30PM THAT WAS THE CRUX OF WHAT WE DETERMINED LOOKING AT THE
3:36:34PM FUTURE LAND USE SIDE OF THINGS.
3:36:38PM THIS IS WHAT THE ZONING MAP SHOWS.
3:36:40PM YOU CAN SEE IT STILL IS REALLY DISTINGUISHED BY THAT SAME
3:36:44PM LINE RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY MERIDIAN AVENUE.
3:36:48PM BUT THERE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE GRANULARITY BECAUSE THERE ARE
3:36:51PM MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS AVAILABLE FOR DOWNTOWN AND
3:36:54PM MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR CHANNEL
3:36:56PM DISTRICT.
3:36:57PM BUT THEY EACH ARE ONLY ALLOWED WITHIN THE UNDERLYING FUTURE
3:37:02PM LAND USE.
3:37:02PM IF YOU CHANGE ONE MAP, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE OTHER MAP, AND
3:37:05PM WE WOULD HAVE TO EFFECTIVELY GO AND NOTICE AND WORK WITH
3:37:08PM EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER TO DO THAT.
3:37:10PM I DID, HOWEVER, WANT TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION HERE, AND
3:37:16PM THIS IS KIND OF GETTING A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF THE WORKSHOP
3:37:19PM NEXT WEEK, BUT THIS IS REALLY THE DISTINGUISHING FACTOR I
3:37:23PM THINK THAT WAS DRIVING THIS DISCUSSION, AND THAT IS THE
3:37:28PM CHANNEL DISTRICT HAS A 60-FOOT HEIGHT LIMITATION FOR CD 1.
3:37:34PM OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, COUNCIL HAS APPROVED PROJECTS
3:37:38PM THAT HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY EXCEEDED THAT.
3:37:40PM THE PROJECT THAT I JUST SHOWED WAS ONE.
3:37:44PM HERE ARE SOME OTHERS.
3:37:45PM THEY HAVE EXCEEDED BOTH THE ZONING HEIGHT FOR CD 1 BUT ALSO
3:37:50PM EXCEEDED THE FAA REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS 130 FEET AND THEY
3:37:53PM HAVE GONE AND GOTTEN PERMITS FROM THE FAA TO DO SO.
3:37:57PM WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION ON THIS NEXT WEEK
3:38:00PM ON THE MOTION THAT IS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO HEIGHT.
3:38:04PM BUT WE WERE UNABLE TO PRODUCE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE
3:38:07PM THAT CBD BOUNDARY, BUT WE THINK THERE MIGHT BE MORE PROMISE
3:38:12PM IN LOOKING FURTHER AT THIS HEIGHT ISSUE IN CHANNEL DISTRICT
3:38:16PM SINCE BASED UPON COUNCIL'S RECENT DECISIONS, IT LOOKS LIKE
3:38:20PM THAT 60-FOOT HEIGHT MAYBE IS NO LONGER APPROPRIATE BASED
3:38:23PM UPON WHAT YOU DEEM TO BE APPROPRIATE AS OF LATE.
3:38:25PM SO THAT'S MY REPORT.
3:38:27PM THANK YOU.
3:38:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: I APOLOGIZE THAT I MISSED THE BEGINNING OF
3:38:31PM THIS.
3:38:31PM I MADE THIS MOTION FOR TWO REASONS.
3:38:34PM WELL, THE MAIN REASON IS THAT WE, THE ONES OF US WHO HAVE
3:38:39PM BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T TURN DOWN VERY
3:38:43PM MANY PROJECTS, WE HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF BY SOME FOLKS FOR NOT
3:38:49PM BEING AS PRODEVELOPMENT AS WE SHOULD BE.
3:38:52PM AND THEN ALSO AS WE SAW THE OTHER NIGHT, HOUSING ACTIVISTS
3:38:56PM COME IN AND SAY WHY AREN'T YOU GUYS PUTTING MORE UNITS ON
3:38:59PM THE MARKET?
3:39:00PM WE NEED TO WORK ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT THERE NEED TO BE
3:39:02PM MORE UNITS OVERALL ON THE MARKET.
3:39:05PM SO THE THING I'VE BEEN TALKING TO NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS ABOUT
3:39:08PM AND ALSO DEVELOPERS IS HOW ABOUT IF WE DO KIND OF AREA-WIDE
3:39:13PM REZONING WHERE WE GO TO THE AREAS WHERE WE WANT DEVELOPMENT
3:39:16PM AND ALLOW MORE DENSITY THERE, THAT WOULD GIVE -- IF WE GO TO
3:39:20PM THE BIG CORRIDORS LIKE PARTS OF DALE MABRY, KENNEDY,
3:39:23PM WESTSHORE, AND CHANNEL DISTRICT, THAT WILL GIVE DEVELOPERS
3:39:26PM ANOTHER 20 OR 30 YEARS TO DEVELOP DENSITY BESIDES PUTTING
3:39:30PM NEW UNITS ON, IT WILL ALSO HELP PROTECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
3:39:33PM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS I TELL THEM, IF YOU DON'T
3:39:35PM WANT DENSITY IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, PERIPHERY.
3:39:40PM I'M RECOMMENDING THROUGH THE BIG PROCESS, ABBYE FEELEY IS
3:39:42PM HIRING A CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT THE REZONING OF THE CITY.
3:39:46PM I'M RECOMMENDING THAT WE WORK WITH THAT CONSULTANT TO GO
3:39:49PM NEIGHBORHOOD BY NEIGHBORHOOD TO LOOK AT WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS
3:39:51PM WANT.
3:39:52PM BUT TWO BIG QUESTIONS WE NEED TO ASK THEM, WHERE IS THE
3:39:55PM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT GOING TO GO IN YOUR
3:39:57PM NEIGHBORHOOD, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE.
3:39:58PM NUMBER TWO, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW DENSITY?
3:40:01PM IF WE NEED DENSITY SOMEWHERE, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO ALLOW
3:40:04PM IT?
3:40:04PM IF YOU DON'T ALLOW IT ANYWHERE, THERE IS A RISK THERE WILL
3:40:07PM BE A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING FOR IT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
3:40:10PM IN THIS CASE, I TALKED TO LINDA SAUL-SENA WHO WAS INVOLVED
3:40:12PM IN THIS IN THE BEGINNING IN CHANNELSIDE AND HER IDEA WAS TO
3:40:15PM STEP IT UP.
3:40:16PM BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE OF ALL THE EXCEPTIONS.
3:40:19PM YOU'VE GOT LIKE PURE HOUSE, A RELATED GROUP PROJECT THAT'S
3:40:23PM LIKE FIVE STORIES HIGH BECAUSE OF LIMITATIONS AND THEN YOU
3:40:26PM HAVE THESE 20 STORY BUILDINGS NEAR IT.
3:40:29PM ACROSS MERIDIAN, SPB COMING IN WITH MAXIMUM HEIGHT DENSITY.
3:40:34PM ONE SIDE OF MERIDIAN, REAL HIGH BUILDINGS AND ON THE OTHER
3:40:37PM SIDE YOU'LL HAVE LOWER.
3:40:38PM WE'RE PUSHING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN LOTS OF PLACES AND THAT
3:40:43PM BONUS DENSITY IS GREAT.
3:40:45PM IF WE CAN PROVE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO
3:40:48PM GET MORE UNITS BESIDES AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE WANT MORE
3:40:50PM UNITS OVERALL AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT DENSITY NEEDS TO GO
3:40:53PM SOMEWHERE, I THINK WE WOULD PUSH FOR MAXIMUM DENSITY IN
3:40:56PM CERTAIN PLACES LIKE THIS.
3:40:58PM STEPHEN GAVE ME A DRAFT MOTION THAT I CAN MAKE WHEN
3:41:02PM EVERYBODY IS FINISHED COMMENTING ON IT, IF THAT'S OKAY.
3:41:07PM AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO FROM THERE.
3:41:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:41:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE] FLOOR AREA RATIO.
3:41:21PM WHY IS IT WE CAN'T CHANGE SOME OF THAT TO ACCOMMODATE, WHEN
3:41:25PM YOU LOOK AT THE -- CALIFORNIA BURNED, CANADA BURNED.
3:41:32PM GREECE, ITALY, SPAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN
3:41:34PM HAWAII, THESE ARE NOT NORMAL THINGS.
3:41:37PM THE HURRICANES ARE COMING MUCH STRONGER.
3:41:40PM WE'VE BEEN LUCKY HERE.
3:41:41PM MIAMI HAD SEVEN HURRICANES THE LAST 80 YEARS.
3:41:44PM WE HAD NONE.
3:41:45PM COME RIGHT OVER THE CITY.
3:41:49PM IF ONE COMES, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO -- WHY IS IT WE DON'T
3:41:54PM HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE ENVIRONMENT FOR THE F.A.R.
3:41:59PM LIKE YOU DO SO MUCH IN SOLAR, SO MUCH IN DIFFERENT METHODS
3:42:02PM OF BUILDING THAT YOU GET A BONUS FOR THAT?
3:42:05PM BECAUSE JUST GIVING ANOTHER UNIT OR TWO UNITS, WE'RE
3:42:09PM ACTUALLY KILLING OURSELVES.
3:42:11PM THE WHOLE WORLD IS ANGRY.
3:42:13PM EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO SOMETHING AND MAKE MORE AND MORE AND
3:42:15PM MORE AND THEY WILL.
3:42:17PM AT THE END, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A WORLD.
3:42:19PM I'M NOT TRYING TO BE DRAMATIC, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
3:42:22PM IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD CHANGE THAT?
3:42:26PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: WE DO.
3:42:28PM I BELIEVE THE MOTION IS COMING UP AT THE WORKSHOP NEXT WEEK.
3:42:31PM PART OF THE PRESENTATION THAT THE CONSULTANT, THE PLANNING
3:42:34PM COMMISSION'S CONSULTANT WILL BE GIVING WILL BE SPEAKING TO
3:42:37PM THAT SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATION.
3:42:38PM I BELIEVE IT IS A PROMISING RESULT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET
3:42:41PM AHEAD OF NEXT WEEK.
3:42:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:42:43PM I APPRECIATE IT.
3:42:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS?
3:42:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:42:54PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: JUST THE CHANNEL.
3:42:55PM THERE IS AN FAA HEIGHT MOTION NEXT WEEK THAT DEALS WITH MORE
3:42:58PM AREAS.
3:42:59PM THIS WAS FOCUSED ON THE CBD AND THE CHANNEL THAT
3:43:03PM DISTINCTION.
3:43:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOTION TO HAVE CITY PLANNING LOOK INTO
3:43:07PM AMENDING THE ZONING HEIGHT FOR THE CHANNEL DISTRICT TO ALLOW
3:43:11PM UP TO THE FAA HEIGHT.
3:43:14PM IS THAT THE ONE?
3:43:15PM DO I NEED TO ADD THE REST?
3:43:17PM OKAY.
3:43:20PM HE DID THIS AT MY REQUEST.
3:43:22PM IF ANYBODY DOESN'T LIKE IT --
3:43:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.
3:43:25PM IT IS COMING BACK FOR NEXT THURSDAY?
3:43:27PM THIS IS A DIFFERENT MOTION?
3:43:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN DO YOU WANT IT TO COME BACK?
3:43:34PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: THIS IS SPECIFIC TO CHANNEL.
3:43:36PM JULY CYCLE OF TEXT AMENDMENTS IS MOVING FORWARD, AND THERE
3:43:39PM ARE GOING TO BE SOME PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS OVER THE
3:43:42PM NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.
3:43:43PM THE SOONER WE KNOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS
3:43:46PM CHANGE, THE SOONER WE COULD INCORPORATE THAT.
3:43:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTION.
3:43:53PM I THINK YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
3:43:54PM ARE THERE OTHER AREAS -- I MEAN, CAN WE -- ARE YOU PLANNING
3:44:00PM ON BRINGING THESE FOR DOWNTOWN, F.A.R. -- I MEAN, HEIGHTS
3:44:04PM GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO FAA MINIMUM?
3:44:06PM OTHER AREAS WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS?
3:44:09PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: THERE ARE OTHER AREAS, BUT THERE ARE MORE
3:44:13PM CONSIDERATIONS IN THOSE AREAS BECAUSE THEY ARE MUCH CLOSER
3:44:16PM TO ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.
3:44:17PM CHANNEL DISTRICT IS JUST UNUSUAL IN THAT IT'S SORT OF OFF ON
3:44:21PM ITS OWN SURROUNDED BY DOWNTOWN.
3:44:23PM WE WILL BE COMING BACK AT THE WORKSHOP TALKING ABOUT, SO
3:44:27PM THOSE OTHER AREAS SPECIFIC TO HEIGHT.
3:44:29PM SINCE THIS WAS FOCUSED ON CBD, THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT TO
3:44:33PM YOU TODAY.
3:44:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON,
3:44:36PM SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:44:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:44:37PM AYE.
3:44:38PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:44:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN DO YOU WANT IT TO COME BACK?
3:44:44PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: IT WILL COME BACK WITH THE JULY CYCLE OF
3:44:46PM TEXT AMENDMENTS.
3:44:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU DON'T THINK YOU NEED A REPORT BEFORE
3:44:50PM THEN?
3:44:50PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: ONCE WE DO PUBLIC INFORMATION AND COLLECT
3:44:53PM THAT, WE'LL DETERMINE WHEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK.
3:44:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: TO ADD TO THE JULY CYCLE.
3:45:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
3:45:02PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:45:02PM THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
3:45:04PM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE NEW BUSINESS?
3:45:07PM COUNCILMAN VIERA?
3:45:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: I GOT A COUPLE, INCLUDING SOME THAT I
3:45:11PM MENTIONED BEFORE.
3:45:16PM >> COMMENDATIONS.
3:45:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: ACTUALLY NONE TODAY.
3:45:18PM THANK GOD, RIGHT?
3:45:19PM I HAD MENTIONED IN THE BUDGET WORKSHOP MOVING THE DISCUSSION
3:45:25PM ON MUNICIPAL BONDS FOR STATIONS TO OCTOBER AS OPPOSED TO
3:45:29PM DECEMBER.
3:45:30PM SO -- AND THAT WOULD BE FOR ALL STATIONS.
3:45:33PM I MADE A NOTE TO ADDRESS THIS, COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU
3:45:38PM MENTIONED SOUTH TAMPA.
3:45:39PM OBVIOUSLY, THIS WOULD INCLUDE EVERYWHERE.
3:45:41PM IF I MAY, I MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THAT FROM DECEMBER TO THE
3:45:47PM FIRST WEEK IN OCTOBER.
3:45:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:45:51PM VIERA.
3:45:52PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:45:53PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:45:54PM AYE.
3:45:55PM OPPOSED?
3:45:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCILMAN VIERA, JUST FOR PURPOSES OF
3:46:01PM CLARITY, DID YOU ALREADY PREVIOUSLY -- PREVIOUSLY SET FOR A
3:46:05PM WORKSHOP, DO YOU RECALL?
3:46:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, IT WAS JUST A DISCUSSION.
3:46:13PM SO THAT ITEM, TO JUST MOVE IT TO THE MENTIONED DATE.
3:46:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR DECEMBER 7.
3:46:19PM AND YOU ARE MOVING IT UP.
3:46:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FIRST WEEK OF OCTOBER.
3:46:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, BECAUSE, AGAIN, I WANT
3:46:24PM TO KEEP THIS THING TOP OF MIND, AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF
3:46:30PM STATION 24, CONCURRENTLY.
3:46:32PM I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WHAT I TOOK AWAY IN DECEMBER, I'LL ADD
3:46:35PM IN DECEMBER TO HAVE ON THAT DATE IN DECEMBER, IF I MAY, SO
3:46:40PM THAT WE CAN KEEP ON MOTIONING IT TO HAVE UPDATES ON IT EVERY
3:46:44PM COUPLE OF MONTHS OR SO, IF I MAY.
3:46:46PM SULING, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WEEK --
3:46:51PM >> DECEMBER 7.
3:46:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: DECEMBER 7.
3:46:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:46:55PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
3:46:58PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
3:46:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST FOR AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF STATION
3:47:03PM 24.
3:47:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, SECOND
3:47:05PM BY COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
3:47:07PM [ENCODER DROP]
3:47:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: -- VIERA, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:47:32PM CARLSON, ALL IN FAVOR?
3:47:33PM AYE.
3:47:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY, I'D LIKE TO HAVE, WE READ IN THE TAMPA
3:47:37PM BAY TIMES IN THAT WONDERFUL GRANT THAT CONGRESS WOMAN CASTOR
3:47:40PM GOT FOR TREES AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A REPORT FROM CITY
3:47:43PM STAFF ON THAT MILLION DOLLAR GRANT AND STEPS THAT STAFF WILL
3:47:48PM BE TAKING IN TERMS OF WHERE THE TREES GO IN THE CITY.
3:47:51PM IN OTHER WORDS, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT.
3:47:57PM WHERE IS IT GOING TO GO?
3:48:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ASKED MAYOR CASTOR YESTERDAY AND SHE SAID
3:48:03PM WE CAN USE THE MONEY TO PAY PEOPLE TO PLANT THEM.
3:48:05PM THAT WAS LIKE, DO WE HAVE MONEY FOR THAT?
3:48:07PM SHE SAID, YES, WE CAN USE IT FOR THAT.
3:48:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: AN UPDATE FROM ADMINISTRATION ON THAT
3:48:13PM INCLUDING WHAT AREAS OF TAMPA ARE GOING TO GET TREES,
3:48:18PM ET CETERA.
3:48:18PM THE CITY NEEDS THEM, FOR EXAMPLE, NEW TAMPA, TONS OF TREES.
3:48:22PM SO I WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE THAT.
3:48:24PM JUST FOR A REPORT ON THAT.
3:48:26PM JANUARY.
3:48:31PM THE FIRST WEEK IN JANUARY.
3:48:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST REGULAR MEETING IN JANUARY.
3:48:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU MEAN IN TERMS OF WHAT ITEMS.
3:48:40PM THAT'S MY MOTION.
3:48:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
3:48:48PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
3:48:49PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:48:51PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:48:52PM AYE.
3:48:53PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:48:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: ONE THING I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND BECAUSE WE
3:48:56PM CAN'T TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS.
3:48:58PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK OR COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN BECAUSE WE HAD
3:49:01PM WONDERFUL DENALI HERE, MAYBE YOU ALL MAY WANT TO DO A
3:49:06PM MOTION.
3:49:06PM I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT, JUST BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE SO BIG
3:49:10PM WITH ANIMALS, ET CETERA.
3:49:12PM MERCIFUL PROJECT, ALONG WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY BECAUSE WE
3:49:18PM TALKED ABOUT THEM, MAYBE ALSO GIVE THEM ALSO A GRANT, MAYBE
3:49:21PM TO HAVE IT COME BACK.
3:49:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU CAN TOTALLY HAVE THAT.
3:49:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, TAKE THAT.
3:49:27PM I'VE MADE TOO MANY MOTIONS.
3:49:28PM FRIENDLY SUGGESTION.
3:49:29PM MAYBE TO HAVE A REPORT COME BACK IN MAY OR JUNE OF NEXT YEAR
3:49:33PM CONCURRENT WITH WHAT WE DO BECAUSE THEY ARE GOOD FOLKS.
3:49:36PM THANK YOU.
3:49:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
3:49:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
3:49:39PM I MADE A MOTION FOR STAFF TO COME BACK WHEN WE ADDRESS THE
3:49:43PM RIVER CENTER AND THE PREFERRED CATERING LIST.
3:49:47PM I WANT TO ADD TO THAT THE UNION STATION, THEIR CONTRACT
3:49:52PM ENDED -- PREFERRED CATERER'S CONTRACT ENDED IN JANUARY AND
3:49:57PM NO CURRENT STATUS ON UNION STATION AS WELL AS THE PREFERRED
3:50:00PM CATERER LIST FOR SEMINOLE GARDENS COMMUNITY CENTER.
3:50:03PM COMBINING ALL THOSE THREE TOGETHER.
3:50:04PM COME BACK IN DECEMBER, ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE, BUT I DON'T
3:50:08PM SEE IT ON THE CALENDAR.
3:50:10PM DECEMBER WHAT?
3:50:36PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
3:50:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH, THEY DID REQUEST IT -- THOUGHT SHE
3:50:41PM SAID DECEMBER.
3:50:43PM FOR A DATE TO BE DETERMINED TO ADD SEMINOLE GARDENS --
3:50:49PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS COMMUNITY CENTER AS WELL AS THE UNION
3:50:52PM STATION.
3:50:52PM TO ADDRESSING THE PREFERRED CATERER'S LIST FOR EVENTS IN OUR
3:50:59PM COMMUNITY UNDER PARKS AND REC.
3:51:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHEN YOU FIND IT, MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU
3:51:05PM TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA BECAUSE IT IS A DATE TO BE
3:51:07PM DETERMINED?
3:51:12PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
3:51:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST LEAVE THAT OFF.
3:51:15PM OKAY.
3:51:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
3:51:17PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:51:20PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:51:20PM AYE.
3:51:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S IT.
3:51:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
3:51:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: -- STAFF, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, WOULD YOU
3:51:29PM PLEASE TAKE COUNCILMAN VIERA'S SUGGESTION ABOUT BRINGING
3:51:32PM BACK THAT ISSUE TO CONSIDER.
3:51:35PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
3:51:36PM MERCIFUL.
3:51:38PM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT STAFF COMPILE A COMPREHENSIVE
3:51:44PM HOUSING REPORT DETAILING THE CITY OF TAMPA, INCLUDING CRA
3:51:48PM COMMITMENTS AND EXPENDITURES FOR SHORT-TERM, MIDTERM AND
3:51:52PM LONG-TERM HOUSING, REPORTING BACK TO CITY COUNCIL ON JANUARY
3:51:54PM 25th, 2024.
3:51:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:52:00PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
3:52:00PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
3:52:03PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:52:03PM AYE.
3:52:04PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
3:52:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO, THAT'S IT.
3:52:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:52:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
3:52:11PM I'M A LITTLE SLOW BECAUSE I REALLY NEEDED TO PIGGYBACK THIS
3:52:14PM OFF OF COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:52:15PM I'M GOING TO STEAL HIS UPDATE FOR STATION 24.
3:52:22PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO THAT THE PREPARING
3:52:26PM FOR FLEET AND SUPPLY.
3:52:29PM THE OTHER ONES I CAN WORRY ABOUT LATER, BUT WE REALLY NEED
3:52:33PM UPDATES.
3:52:35PM I THINK YOU'RE BEING GENEROUS EVERY TWO MONTHS BECAUSE I
3:52:37PM WOULD HAVE GONE EVERY MONTH.
3:52:39PM I'LL GO WITH YOU FOR NOW.
3:52:41PM I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE FLEET AND SUPPLY SEARCH TO THE
3:52:46PM TFRs.
3:52:47PM FLEET AND SUPPLY.
3:52:48PM THE ONLY REASON IS BECAUSE FOR THOSE TWO THINGS TO COME
3:52:52PM TOGETHER, THEN -- BECAUSE THE SAME PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON
3:52:56PM THOSE.
3:52:57PM I THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR THEM, AS WELL AS US, WHICH IS
3:53:00PM WHY I'M SORRY I DIDN'T PIGGYBACK ON IT EARLIER, BUT
3:53:04PM BASICALLY TO FOLLOW WHAT COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, ADD TFR
3:53:07PM FLEET AND SUPPLY SEARCH TO THAT.
3:53:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S A MOTION TO AMEND.
3:53:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, HE ALREADY MADE THE MOTION.
3:53:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS AMENDING BY ADDING.
3:53:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I JUST AMEND YOUR MOTION THEN?
3:53:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: BY ALL MEANS.
3:53:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCELLENT.
3:53:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU ACTUALLY ARE RIGHT.
3:53:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M ADDING AS A SEPARATE ITEM BECAUSE 24 WILL
3:53:28PM BE DONE IDEALLY BEFORE THE FLEET AND SUPPLY.
3:53:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
3:53:33PM THAT'S FINE.
3:53:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CONCURRENT.
3:53:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:53:36PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
3:53:37PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:53:38PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:53:39PM AYE.
3:53:40PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:53:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S IT.
3:53:44PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
3:53:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE 19th.
3:53:49PM >>THE CLERK: OCTOBER 19th.
3:53:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
3:53:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RIVERWALK REMINDED
3:53:58PM ME THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THE SITUATION WITH THE FLORIDA
3:54:02PM AQUARIUM.
3:54:04PM AND NOBODY AT THE AQUARIUM ASKED ME TO DO THIS, BUT AS I
3:54:07PM MENTIONED, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES AND OTHER FRIENDS WERE
3:54:11PM FOUNDERS OF THE AQUARIUM YEARS AGO.
3:54:13PM THERE WAS DEBT THAT AFTER A FEW YEARS THAT THE CITY TOOK ON
3:54:17PM AND THEN SOME LAND WAS SOLD AND THE PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN
3:54:20PM REFINANCED AND EXTENDED.
3:54:22PM I JUST WOULD LIKE FOR THE PUBLIC'S PURPOSE FOR US TO SHOW
3:54:26PM THOSE NUMBERS AND THE SCHEDULE OF THEM.
3:54:28PM I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO ASK CITY STAFF TO REPORT ON DECEMBER
3:54:32PM 21 DURING STAFF REPORTS AS TO THE HISTORY AND PAYMENT
3:54:35PM SCHEDULE OF THE FLORIDA AQUARIUM SINCE INCEPTION.
3:54:40PM THE SALE OF FORMER AQUARIUM LAND AND WHETHER THE PROCEEDS
3:54:43PM WERE APPLIED TO THE DEBT AND STAFF SUGGESTIONS ON HOW AND
3:54:46PM WHEN THE DEBT COULD BE RETIRED.
3:54:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:54:50PM CARLSON.
3:54:51PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
3:54:52PM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
3:54:54PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:54:55PM AYE.
3:54:55PM ANY OPPOSED?
3:54:56PM DECEMBER WHAT?
3:55:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: 21.
3:55:03PM THAT IS THE LAST DAY --
3:55:05PM >> FOUR DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
3:55:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: THERE'S NOTHING ON THAT DAY.
3:55:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS JUST THINKING, YEAH, IT'S
3:55:10PM CHRISTMAS.
3:55:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING --
3:55:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
3:55:14PM AYE.
3:55:15PM GO AHEAD.
3:55:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE ALL GOT A LETTER FROM RELATED
3:55:19PM GROUP.
3:55:19PM MARTY, STOP ME IF I CAN'T READ THIS.
3:55:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
3:55:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE GIST OF IT IS THEY ARE NOT GOING TO PUT
3:55:28PM THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE TREE.
3:55:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY HAD THE RIGHT TO DECIDE.
3:55:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
3:55:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL READ IT AND GIVE IT -- CAN I READ IT?
3:55:41PM TWO MINUTES TO READ?
3:55:43PM EACH OF US GOT ONE.
3:55:46PM HARD COPY.
3:55:48PM I'LL GIVE IT TO THE CLERK.
3:55:50PM THIS IS FROM A MANAGING DIRECTOR OF RELATED GROUP.
3:55:58PM HE SAID, I RECENTLY APPEARED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING
3:56:01PM THE RELATED GROUP RITZ-CARLTON RESIDENCES PROJECT, MORE
3:56:03PM SPECIFICALLY CONCERNING THE PROPOSED PLACEMENT OF A SIDEWALK
3:56:06PM NEAR A TREE ON STREET ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTY.
3:56:08PM AFTER REFLECTING ON THE MEETING, WE HAVE REALIZED THAT WE
3:56:11PM WERE OPERATING UNDER A MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT THE
3:56:13PM CONSTRUCTION OF THE SIDEWALK.
3:56:14PM OUR TEAM WAS WORKING UNDER THE APPROVAL PLANS.
3:56:17PM AFTER WORKING THROUGH MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF REVIEWS BY CITY
3:56:19PM STAFF, IT WAS NEVER OUR INTENT TO CUT DOWN THE TREE OR TO
3:56:23PM HARM THE TREE.
3:56:23PM AT THE REQUEST OF OUR NEIGHBOR, CONSTRUCTION WAS STOPPED AND
3:56:25PM THE SITUATION WAS REVIEWED TWICE BY STAFF.
3:56:28PM THEREFORE WE BELIEVE THAT WE WERE REQUIRED TO BUILD THE
3:56:31PM SIDEWALK AS IT HAD BEEN APPROVED AND REQUIRED BY CITY
3:56:33PM COUNCIL.
3:56:34PM WE SUBSEQUENTLY MET WITH STAFF AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE
3:56:37PM NOT LEGALLY BOUND TO CONSTRUCT THE SIDEWALK.
3:56:40PM THE RELATED GROUP VERY MUCH VALUES OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH
3:56:43PM NEIGHBORS ADJACENT TO OUR RITZ-CARLTON RESIDENCES PROJECT
3:56:46PM AND IN THE SPIRIT OF GOOD NEIGHBORLY RELATIONS, WE
3:56:49PM VOLUNTARILY WILL FOREGO THE SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION IN THIS
3:56:52PM LOCATION TO BETTER PROTECT THE POTENTIALLY AFFECTED TREE.
3:56:55PM WE ARE WORKING WITH STAFF ON THE BEST WAY AND TIMING TO DO
3:56:57PM THIS.
3:56:58PM TO BE CLEAR, WE UNDERSTAND THE WISHES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
3:57:01PM ARE NOT -- ARE TO NOT BUILD THE SIDEWALK NEAR THE TREE AND
3:57:05PM WE DO NOT PLAN TO DO SO.
3:57:06PM I REGRET THAT THIS DECISION WAS NOT COMMUNICATED MORE
3:57:09PM CLEARLY IN OUR COMMENTS TO COUNCIL ON AUGUST 24.
3:57:12PM I SINCERELY APOLOGIZE THAT OUR MISUNDERSTANDING RESULTED IN
3:57:15PM THE APPEARANCE THAT WE WERE NOT WILLING TO LISTEN TO THE
3:57:19PM NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUEST.
3:57:19PM THE RELATED GROUP IS PROUD OF OUR TAMPA COMMUNITY PRESENCE,
3:57:22PM AND WE WILL CONTINUE WORKING HARD TO ENSURE THAT OUR
3:57:24PM NEIGHBORS AND ELECTED OFFICIAL LEADERS FEEL THE SAME.
3:57:27PM I JUST THOUGHT SINCE -- THAT WAS A DIFFICULT MEETING AND THE
3:57:30PM COMMUNITY WAS VERY UPSET.
3:57:32PM THIS IS GOD NEWS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
3:57:33PM SO I JUST WANTED EVERYBODY TO HEAR IT.
3:57:39PM MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
3:57:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE LETTER FROM
3:57:42PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
3:57:45PM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
3:57:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
3:57:59PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
3:58:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT
3:58:02PM A COMMENDATION ON NOVEMBER 16 TO THE CARE TEAM HOME CARE WHO
3:58:06PM HAS BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN THE DELIVERY OF HEALTH CARE
3:58:08PM SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS OF OUR COMMUNITY SINCE 1988.
3:58:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
3:58:15PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
3:58:17PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:58:18PM OPPOSED.
3:58:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
3:58:20PM THE NEXT MOTION IS I WOULD LIKE ON NOVEMBER 16, I SEE THERE
3:58:24PM ARE NO STAFF REPORTS OR UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
3:58:28PM UNDER STAFF REPORTS THAT SOMEONE FROM EITHER PARKS AND REC
3:58:32PM OR FROM STORMWATER GIVE AN UPDATE ON UPDATES THAT ARE BEING
3:58:37PM MADE AT SWAN CIRCLE.
3:58:38PM THIS IS BETWEEN LOIS AND WESTSHORE, A CIRCULAR PARK THAT IS
3:58:44PM RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
3:58:45PM AND ALSO ADDRESS SOME ISSUES WITH FLOODING.
3:58:49PM SOME OF THE STORM DRAINS RIGHT AROUND THERE BY DESIGN, A
3:58:52PM COUPLE OF LEAFS FALL ON THEM AND THE WATER BACKS UP AND I
3:58:56PM THINK IT'S POORLY DESIGNED.
3:58:58PM BUT I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO COME BACK AND LET US KNOW OR
3:59:02PM UPDATE US ON WHAT'S BEING DONE, IF ANYTHING IS BEING DONE
3:59:05PM AND WHAT DIRECTION WE SHOULD TAKE.
3:59:07PM NOVEMBER 16.
3:59:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
3:59:10PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:59:13PM I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS.
3:59:14PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:59:16PM AYE.
3:59:16PM OPPOSED?
3:59:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM
3:59:19PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
3:59:20PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:59:22PM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:59:23PM AYE.
3:59:23PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
3:59:24PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
3:59:25PM
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