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THURSDAY, JANUARY 18, 2024, 9:00 A.M.

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9:01:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:01:50AM WE HAVE AN INVOCATION.
9:01:54AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON WILL INTRODUCE OUR GUEST.
9:01:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
9:01:59AM I'VE GOT PASTOR PAUL BUSTER.
9:02:02AM GO AHEAD AND STAND UP.
9:02:04AM ON JUNE 22, 2002, HE WAS UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO BE THE PASTOR
9:02:12AM OF THE NEW MACEDONIA M.B. CHURCH IN TAMPA.
9:02:14AM HE WAS INSTALLED AS PASTOR IN OCTOBER OF THE SAME YEAR.
9:02:17AM IN HIS 21 YEARS AS PASTOR AT NEW MACEDONIA, HE DEVELOPED THE
9:02:25AM FOLLOWING, AMONG OTHERS, THE FOLLOWING FOUR PROGRAMS, THE
9:02:25AM GLOVER SCHOLARSHIP DESIGNED TO GIVE A MONETARY GRANT TO
9:02:29AM GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO WILL BE ATTENDING AN
9:02:31AM INSTITUTE OF HIGHER LEARNING.
9:02:33AM FEED MY SHEEP, WHICH IS A MINISTRY THAT PROVIDES FREE MEALS,
9:02:36AM INCLUDING PANTRY AND CLOTHING ITEMS EVERY WEDNESDAY TO THE
9:02:38AM COMMUNITY.
9:02:39AM THE SATURDAY SANCTUARY, AN EXTENSION OF FEED MY SHEEP, ON

9:02:40AM WEDNESDAYS THAT OFFERS PRODUCE, PANTRY ITEMS, AND MEATS.
9:02:46AM MISSION IN MOTION OF FLORIDA, 501(C)(3) THAT HAS OUTREACH
9:02:52AM PROJECTS FROM NEW MACEDONIA.
9:02:54AM HE HAS 5 CHILDREN, 14 GRANDCHILDREN, AND HIS WIFE IS
9:02:59AM BRIGETTE.
9:03:01AM PLEASE JOIN US IN THE INVOCATION.
9:03:02AM AFTERWARDS, WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE.
9:03:07AM >> FATHER, WE COME THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN FOR THIS DAY, THAT
9:03:11AM YOU ALLOWED US TO SEE FATHER GOD.
9:03:13AM WE THANK YOU FOR JUST CONTINUING TO BLESS US AND KEEP US.
9:03:16AM THANK YOU FOR BEING OUR GOD WHO SITS HIGH AND LOOKS DOWN LOW
9:03:20AM AND WE COME THIS MORNING FATHER GOD ASKING YOU TO BE WITH
9:03:23AM THIS BOARD, FATHER GOD, THESE COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND FATHER
9:03:27AM GOD, THE RESIDENTS OF THIS WONDERFUL CITY OF TAMPA.
9:03:29AM FATHER GOD, THAT YOU ALLOW US TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE US TO DO,
9:03:33AM THAT YOU WOULD LEAD AND GUIDE US IN EVERY WAY THAT YOU
9:03:36AM DESIRE FOR US TO GO.
9:03:37AM FATHER GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU COVER US WITH YOUR BLOOD AND
9:03:40AM KEEP US, FATHER GOD, IN YOUR CARE, BECAUSE WE KNOW, FATHER
9:03:43AM GOD, THAT YOU CAN DO ALL THINGS BUT FAIL.
9:03:46AM WE GIVE ALL PRAISE AND THANKS AND GLORY TO YOU FOR WHO YOU
9:03:49AM ARE, NOT JUST WHAT YOU CAN DO, BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE GOD, THE
9:03:54AM ONE WHO GAVE YOUR LIFE FOR OUR SINS AND WE THANK YOU NOW, IN
9:04:01AM JESUS NAME WE PRAY, AMEN.
9:04:03AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

9:04:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:04:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:04:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:04:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:04:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:04:29AM >> VIERA?
9:04:29AM MIRANDA?
9:04:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:04:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:04:32AM >>THE CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:04:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:04:34AM I NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THE DECEMBER 14 MEETING.
9:04:38AM >> SO MOVE.
9:04:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:04:40AM OKAY.
9:04:43AM NOW CAN I CALL UP OUR DIRECTOR, MS. MOODY, AND WE ARE GOING
9:04:49AM TO CLEAN UP THIS AGENDA A LITTLE BIT AND GIVE A MOTION TO
9:04:53AM TAKE CARE OF THAT AS WELL.
9:04:56AM >>ERICA MOODY: GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS.
9:04:57AM ERICA MOODY, CRA DIRECTOR.
9:04:59AM HAPPY TO BE HERE AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
9:05:00AM FIRST MEETING OF THE YEAR.
9:05:01AM WE'RE SETTING THE AGENDA AND WE ARE RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR
9:05:04AM ITEMS 7 TO ITEMS 12 BE CONTINUED.
9:05:08AM RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR ITEM 13 TO BE RECEIVED AND FILED AS

9:05:13AM IS AND REQUESTING TO PULL ITEM 16 FROM REQUIRED APPROVALS
9:05:16AM AND HAVE IT BE HEARD AFTER ITEM 1.
9:05:21AM >> SO MOVED.
9:05:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:05:23AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO AND SECOND BY
9:05:26AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:05:28AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:05:29AM OPPOSED?
9:05:30AM MOTION CARRIES FOR OUR ADOPTED AGENDA FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
9:05:35AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: BEFORE WE MOVE ON, JUST FOR THE CLERK'S
9:05:38AM RECORDS, ALL THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE MOVED TO BE CONTINUED,
9:05:41AM CONTINUED PER THE DATE IN THE MEMO.
9:05:44AM I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE MOTION.
9:05:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CORRECT.
9:05:47AM THANK YOU, ATTORNEY MASSEY, FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
9:05:49AM NOW WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING.
9:05:55AM GOOD MORNING.
9:06:04AM ANYONE WANTING TO GO FIRST?
9:06:08AM I MISSED YOU ALL, BY THE WAY.
9:06:11AM >> JUST IN TIME.
9:06:12AM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO TELL YOU ALL I CAME HERE A COUPLE OF
9:06:18AM WEEKS AGO AND I WANT TO TELL YOU ALL, HAPPY NEW YEAR AND GOD
9:06:24AM BLESS ALL OF YOU.
9:06:27AM INCLUDING ALL OF YOU ALL BACK THERE.
9:06:29AM YOU KNOW, GOD HAD BROUGHT US FROM A MIGHTY LONG WAY, AND

9:06:35AM NOBODY BUT GOD.
9:06:37AM BUT WE OUGHT TO TELL HIM THANK YOU, ISN'T THAT RIGHT?
9:06:40AM SO MANY PEOPLE KEEP THEIR MOUTH CLAMPED SO TIGHT THAT THEY
9:06:45AM CAN'T THANK GOD FOR NOTHING.
9:06:47AM BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU ALL, MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS.
9:06:51AM LOCATED 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET, PARADISE MISSIONARY BAPTIST
9:06:57AM CHURCH.
9:06:58AM I'VE BEEN COMING DOWN HERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND NOW I'M
9:07:02AM STILL COMING DOWN HERE.
9:07:04AM BUT THE THING ABOUT IT, I DON'T GET NO RESULTS I GUESS
9:07:08AM BECAUSE THEY LOOK AT ME --
9:07:15AM I GOT TO TELL YOU ALL, I'M A CHILD OF GOD AND THAT'S A GOOD
9:07:19AM THING.
9:07:19AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:07:20AM I PRAY FOR YOU ALL, AND YOU ALL DON'T KNOW I'M PRAYING FOR
9:07:24AM YOU.
9:07:24AM BUT I HAVE TO THANK GOD FOR EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ALL
9:07:28AM BECAUSE GOD LED US HERE TO 2024, AND THAT'S A LONG TIME,
9:07:35AM FROM THE TIME YOU WERE BORN UP UNTIL NOW.
9:07:37AM I'VE GOT TO TELL GOD THANK YOU FOR THAT.
9:07:40AM I STILL GOT PROBLEM.
9:07:42AM I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU WON'T TEAR DOWN THE SPLINTERS ON
9:07:52AM JACKSON HOUSE.
9:07:53AM WHY YOU WANT TO TEAR THAT DOWN?
9:07:55AM DO I HAVE TO CALL THE GOVERNOR SEE IF HE COME IN AND HELP US

9:07:59AM TEAR IT DOWN AND THEN A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE NEED THE
9:08:04AM GOVERNOR TO LOOK AT, SINCE THE MAYOR WON'T DO NOTHING, WE'VE
9:08:08AM GOT TO CALL THE GOVERNOR AND SEE IF HE WILL DO SOMETHING.
9:08:12AM IF HE WILL DO SOMETHING, GET ELECTED AS PRESIDENT OF THE
9:08:19AM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
9:08:21AM WE'VE GOT PEOPLE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THAT ONLY KNOW RIGHT
9:08:31AM HAND FROM THE LEFT, YOU ALL CALL TRUMP.
9:08:37AM HE AIN'T ABOUT NOTHING.
9:08:39AM HE AIN'T ABOUT NOTHING BUT TRYING TO DESTROY AMERICA AND
9:08:42AM WE'RE SITTING BACK AND LETTING HIM DO IT AS IF WE DON'T
9:08:45AM CARE.
9:08:46AM WE HAVE TO LET HIM KNOW HE IS NOTHING BUT A CITIZEN OF THE
9:08:52AM UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
9:08:53AM MY ANCESTORS CAME FROM AFRICA AND EVERYWHERE ELSE AND HELPED
9:09:05AM BUILD THIS COUNTRY UP.
9:09:06AM WE HAVE TO THANK GOD.
9:09:09AM THAT IS A GREAT BLESSING.
9:09:11AM I WANT TO TELL YOU ALL SOMETHING, TREAT EVERYBODY LIKE
9:09:14AM PEOPLE.
9:09:14AM TREAT EVERYBODY CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES.
9:09:18AM THAT'S FOR ME AND YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
9:09:23AM IN THE NAME OF JESUS, THANK GOD.
9:09:25AM GOD IS GOING TO BLESS YOU.
9:09:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:09:28AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

9:09:35AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:09:36AM MY NAME IS --
9:09:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBERS.
9:09:39AM >> BOARD MEMBERS, EXCUSE ME.
9:09:41AM MY NAME IS CARLOS DE LA OSSA, HOMEOWNER IN THE SOUTHEAST
9:09:45AM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:09:46AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON MY APPLICATION FOR THE EAST TAMPA
9:09:48AM COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPRESENTING THE SOUTH --
9:09:52AM [ENCODER DROP]
9:10:18AM >> I'LL SPEAK ON IT AGAIN COME THE 25th.
9:10:21AM WE HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF THE OPPORTUNITY DEALING WITH
9:10:29AM THE CURFEW.
9:10:30AM CURFEW IS THE TOOL TO OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION OF OTHER
9:10:34AM THINGS AS NEEDED.
9:10:35AM THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE DON'T WANT IT, RIGHT?
9:10:41AM I THINK SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.
9:10:47AM I DON'T WANT COUNCIL TO HEAR THE PEOPLE AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE
9:10:51AM NOT GOING TO DO A CURFEW, BUT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
9:10:56AM AND COUNCIL CANNOT HANDLE THIS OR MAKE A DECISION IN SILO.
9:11:02AM A CURFEW FOR -- A CITY CURFEW, YOU NEED TO BRING THE COUNTY
9:11:07AM IN, RIGHT?
9:11:08AM YOU NEED TO BRING TPD WAS THERE READING THEIR NOTES.
9:11:17AM I'M CONCERNED THAT FOR ONE THE ADVERTISEMENT, AND I'VE
9:11:21AM ALWAYS SAID THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO GET THE
9:11:24AM INFORMATION OUT.

9:11:25AM I SENT THE INFORMATION OUT TO SEVERAL PEOPLE.
9:11:28AM THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
9:11:30AM COMMISSIONER MYERS HAS A BIG SIGN ON ALL CORNERS, MOST OF
9:11:37AM THE CORNERS IN HER COMMUNITY WHEN SHE'S DOING A MEETING OR
9:11:42AM SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
9:11:44AM IN REGARDS TO BEING VERY INTENTIONAL ON GETTING STUFF OUT, I
9:11:49AM DIDN'T SEE THAT.
9:11:50AM I ASKED THE PERSON THAT WAS THERE, HOW DID YOU GET THE
9:11:53AM INFORMATION OUT?
9:11:53AM SHE SAID WE E-MAILED IT.
9:11:56AM OKAY.
9:11:57AM I'M A PERSON.
9:11:58AM MY PERSONAL E-MAIL, I DON'T READ IT FOR FIVE DAYS, NO PUN
9:12:01AM INTENDED, BECAUSE I'M BUSY, RIGHT?
9:12:04AM WITH THE SHORT TURNAROUND TIME THEY HAD, I'M JUST CONCERNED
9:12:07AM -- IN ONE MEETING, SOMETHING THIS IMPORTANT, JUST ONE
9:12:12AM MEETING.
9:12:12AM THEY ADHERED TO WHAT YOU ASKED THEM TO DO, BUT WHAT IS THE
9:12:17AM -- HOW WAS IT INTENTIONAL AND HOW WAS IT REAL PURPOSEFUL,
9:12:22AM RIGHT, TO REALLY GET FEEDBACK?
9:12:24AM I GUESS IF A HUNDRED PEOPLE SHOWED UP, THEY ONLY ALLOTTED
9:12:29AM TEN SLOTS FOR PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO SPEAK.
9:12:32AM THEY HAD A QR CODE UP THERE, I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO MAKE
9:12:35AM COMMENTS OR WHATEVER.
9:12:36AM BUT FOR TEN PEOPLE TO MAKE COMMENTS, MAKE COMMENTS IN

9:12:41AM PERSON.
9:12:41AM SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS WHEN YOU GET THE REPORT BACK, BECAUSE
9:12:44AM THEY DID PROVIDE THAT, DON'T JUST SHUT IT DOWN.
9:12:47AM WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE AT A WIDER SPAN.
9:12:52AM THANK YOU.
9:12:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:12:53AM GOOD MORNING.
9:12:56AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE CHAMBER.
9:12:59AM HOPE YOU GUYS HAD AN OUTSTANDING REST OF THE WEEK AND ALL
9:13:04AM THINGS.
9:13:04AM I WOKE UP THIS MORNING ABOUT 3:30 THIS MORNING.
9:13:07AM WHEN I WOKE UP THIS MORNING, I WENT IN MY OFFICE AND I
9:13:11AM STARTED WORKING ON SOME THINGS.
9:13:13AM I HAVE A SON THAT HAS A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE.
9:13:18AM SO I WANT TO ADDRESS THAT FOR A MOMENT.
9:13:23AM IT GOT REALLY TOUGH TO THE FACT THAT I COULD HAVE POSSIBLY
9:13:26AM BEEN IN THE CUSTODY OF TAMPA POLICE.
9:13:31AM THEN I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH MY WIFE, AND SHE TALKED ME
9:13:35AM DOWN OFF THE LEDGE.
9:13:37AM THEN I WENT BACK IN MY OFFICE AND I COMPLETED THE WORK THAT
9:13:40AM I STARTED -- DOING THE WORK THAT I WAS DOING AND DROPPED MY
9:13:46AM SPIRIT TO LISTEN TO DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING'S SPEECH, WHAT IS
9:13:51AM KNOWN IS AS "I HAVE A DREAM" SPEECH.
9:13:57AM I LISTENED TO IT ABOUT FOUR TIMES THIS MORNING.
9:14:00AM I KEPT LISTENING FOR NUGGETS, WHAT CAN I SAY TO IMPRESS UPON

9:14:05AM A GROUP OF PEOPLE TO GET THEM TO UNDERSTAND AND TO MOVE ON
9:14:08AM SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE STATED.
9:14:11AM AGAIN, I BRING BACK TO YOUR ATTENTION RESOLUTION 568, AND I
9:14:17AM THINK ABOUT THE PARTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED WITH HELPING MAKE
9:14:20AM THIS DECISION COME TO PASS.
9:14:23AM WE HAVE ONE AFRICAN AMERICAN THAT SITS ON THIS PANEL AND NOT
9:14:27AM EVEN THAT INDIVIDUAL AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS, NO ONE HAS
9:14:30AM REACHED OUT AND SAID, HEY, LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
9:14:34AM BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT WITH
9:14:37AM RESPECT TO THE CURFEW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CRIME TAKING
9:14:41AM PLACE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ALL THESE
9:14:43AM CRAs, ALL THESE VARIABLE THINGS THAT ARE AFFECTING THE
9:14:48AM LIVES AND THE QUALITY OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, YOU
9:14:50AM HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND SIX WEEKS AGO, I GAVE YOU A
9:14:54AM FRAMEWORK ON HOW TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF IMPROVING OR
9:14:58AM BRINGING TO PASS RESOLUTION 568.
9:15:01AM IT WAS A DOCUMENT THAT YOU WROTE.
9:15:04AM THIS MORNING OR A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, SOMEONE REACHED OUT TO
9:15:08AM ME AND SAY, WELL, THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE
9:15:10AM ADVANCEMENT OF COLORED PEOPLE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT
9:15:15AM DOCUMENT AND THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
9:15:18AM I MET MR. CLENDENIN AT ONE OF THEM MEETINGS.
9:15:21AM HE STOOD BEFORE ME AND HE TOLD ME HOW HE WAS GOING TO BE A
9:15:24AM GREAT CANDIDATE FOR CITY COUNCIL.
9:15:26AM HE SHARED WITH ME HOW HE'S GOING TO DO ALL THESE GREAT

9:15:28AM THINGS, HOW HE'S GOING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE.
9:15:30AM AND YET I HAVEN'T EVEN YET HEARD FROM HIM AND WE STOOD SIDE
9:15:36AM BY SIDE AND HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
9:15:37AM I'M COMING HERE AGAIN TODAY.
9:15:40AM THIS IS SIX WEEKS.
9:15:41AM I'M SELF-EMPLOYED, SO I CAN TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO COME AND
9:15:44AM DO THIS, BUT THIS IS TIME PROVOKING.
9:15:48AM WE'VE GOT TO MOVE.
9:15:49AM WE MUST MOVE ON IT.
9:15:51AM HE DIDN'T JUST HAVE A DREAM THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN
9:15:54AM THE '60s.
9:15:55AM HE'S TALKING ABOUT NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
9:15:57AM WE MUST MOVE ON RESOLUTION 568.
9:15:59AM THANK YOU.
9:16:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:16:02AM OKAY.
9:16:04AM WE HAVE A REGISTERED SPEAKER ONLINE.
9:16:06AM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE LEFT TO SPEAK?
9:16:09AM YES, MR. CITRO.
9:16:10AM GOOD MORNING.
9:16:11AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR, CRA BOARD, JOSEPH CITRO
9:16:14AM FOR THE RECORD, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:16:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
9:16:20AM THE PERSON THAT JUST SPOKE, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE
9:16:23AM RECORD.

9:16:24AM >> DARYL HYCH.
9:16:28AM >> THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.
9:16:29AM JOSEPH CITRO FOR THE RECORD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33611.
9:16:33AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5.
9:16:36AM DURING MY LAST TERM AS CRA CHAIR, I REQUESTED WITH THE HELP
9:16:44AM OF MS. MICHELLE VAN LOAN AND THE THEN CRA BOARD TO SET ASIDE
9:16:49AM $10 MILLION FOR THIS PROPERTY, WHICH WAS THE OLD ARMY NAVY
9:16:53AM SURPLUS STORE, WITH $5 MILLION GOING TOWARD INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:17:01AM I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT THIS IS FINALLY COMING TO FRUITION.
9:17:06AM WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT WERE HAD WITH THE BILLBOARD THAT HAS
9:17:09AM FINALLY BEEN MOVED, WE CAN NOW START ON THE AFFORDABLE
9:17:15AM WORKFORCE HOUSING THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED FOR, AND
9:17:20AM I HOPE THIS BOARD IS GOING TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT
9:17:24AM IT IS LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA IN THE URBAN CORE.
9:17:28AM AND THIS WILL BE NEEDED FOR, AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE SERVICE
9:17:33AM PERSONNEL THAT WORK IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
9:17:36AM BUT I POSE THIS QUESTION TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS.
9:17:41AM IS PUBLIC HOUSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TRULY AFFORDABLE IF
9:17:49AM THERE IS NO PUBLIC MASS TRANSPORTATION?
9:17:50AM IT WAS ALSO IN MY LAST TERM AS CRA CHAIR THAT I HAD ASKED
9:17:56AM THE THEN BOARD TO PLEASE SET ASIDE MONIES TO EXTEND THE
9:18:02AM STREETCAR, GOING UP FLORIDA AVENUE, CROSSING PALM AND COMING
9:18:07AM BACK DOWN TAMPA STREET.
9:18:09AM THAT WAS REJECTED BECAUSE THE MONEY FROM THE CRA THEN THE
9:18:12AM BOARD THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR WORKFORCE AFFORDABLE

9:18:15AM HOUSING.
9:18:17AM I THEN WENT TO VIK BHIDE HEAD OF MOBILITY AND SAID WHAT
9:18:21AM WOULD IT TAKE TO STRIKE FOR RAPID BUS IN THE SAME AREA?
9:18:25AM THAT BOARD THEN SAID, NO, WE'D RATHER SAVE THAT MONEY FOR
9:18:28AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:18:29AM BOARD MEMBERS, I THANK YOU FOR CARRYING ON THIS PROJECT AND
9:18:34AM I HOPE THAT IT WILL BEGIN SOON.
9:18:37AM BUT, PLEASE, LET'S TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT AFFORDABLE
9:18:40AM HOUSING IS NOT TRULY AFFORDABLE WITHOUT PUBLIC MASS
9:18:44AM TRANSPORTATION.
9:18:44AM I THANK YOU.
9:18:45AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MR. CITRO.
9:18:47AM ANY OTHER IN-HOUSE SPEAKERS?
9:18:49AM WE WILL MOVE ON TO MR. RANDOLPH ONLINE.
9:18:52AM THANK YOU.
9:18:52AM MICHAEL RANDOLPH, GOOD MORNING.
9:18:58AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:18:59AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:19:02AM I'M WITH THE CENTER FOR NONPROFIT COMMITTEE TO DEVELOPMENT.
9:19:08AM TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AN UPCOMING CLASS, THE CLASS ON
9:19:12AM ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, ChatGPT, AND WARE 3 COMING UP ON
9:19:18AM JANUARY THE 7.
9:19:20AM EARLY '70s A GUY BOOK CALLED TECHNOCRATS WRITTEN IN THE
9:19:27AM '70s.
9:19:28AM THAT BOOK TALK ABOUT TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO TAKE OVER TO THE

9:19:33AM POINT WHERE HALF OF THE WORKFORCE WILL ACTUALLY BE WORKING
9:19:39AM PART-TIME.
9:19:39AM RELATED TO ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
9:19:42AM ACCORDING TO RESUM BUILDERS, 37% OF JOBS WAS WIPED OUT BY
9:19:49AM A.I. IN 2023.
9:19:51AM IT GETS BAD.
9:19:54AM ACCORDING TO THE SAME SOURCE, IN THE YEAR 2024, THAT IS THIS
9:20:00AM YEAR, 44% OF EMPLOYERS WILL LAY OFF PEOPLE BECAUSE OF A.I.
9:20:07AM THE GOOD NEWS, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CAN BE USED TO HELP
9:20:11AM LOWER INCOME STUDENTS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS TO INCREASE THEIR
9:20:14AM GRADES.
9:20:16AM FOR EXAMPLE, IT CAN PROVIDE PERSONALIZED FEEDBACK, ADAPTABLE
9:20:21AM LEARNING PATTERNS AND SUPPORT AS SOON AS THEY NEED THE HELP.
9:20:28AM IT CAN HELP TEACHERS DESIGN AND ENGAGE IN LESSONS.
9:20:32AM ALSO, A.I. CAN BE USED TO HELP POOR PEOPLE IN MANY WAYS.
9:20:37AM FOR EXAMPLE, IT CAN HELP THEM USE -- IT CAN HELP PEOPLE USE
9:20:43AM TO FIND JOBS, IMPROVE THEIR SKILL SETS AND THEIR INTERESTS.
9:20:47AM IT CAN ALSO BE USED TO IMPROVE NEW EDUCATION.
9:20:55AM CAN ALSO BE USED WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTH CARE.
9:20:59AM AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE REASON WHY WE DID THE ARTIFICIAL
9:21:01AM INTELLIGENCE CLASS BECAUSE WE SAW THE NUMBERS ON THE WALL.
9:21:04AM WE KNEW JOBS GOING TO BE LEAVING US QUICK AND FAST.
9:21:09AM WE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW IT WOULD BE MOVING THIS QUICK.
9:21:12AM I WANT TO LEAVE THIS WITH YOU.
9:21:14AM IN 2024 THIS YEAR, 44% OF THE WORKFORCE WILL BE WIPED OUT.

9:21:21AM JOIN US ON THE 27th OF JANUARY AS WE TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN
9:21:28AM REINVENT OURSELVES AND NOT BECOME A STATISTIC OF THE PAST
9:21:33AM BECAUSE OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
9:21:35AM THANK YOU.
9:21:36AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:21:37AM NOW WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM SPEAKER,
9:21:47AM WEST TAMPA CAC REPRESENTED BY MR. JOE ROBINSON.
9:21:51AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
9:21:56AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL AND CHAIR HENDERSON.
9:22:01AM PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU AND YOUR MOTHER.
9:22:03AM JOE ROBINSON, TAMPA, FLORIDA, WEST TAMPA IN THE OLD
9:22:09AM SCAGLIONE HOUSE, GUIDO.
9:22:14AM I WON'T BE HERE A MINUTE.
9:22:15AM I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE A COUPLE OF YEARS.
9:22:18AM THEY PUT ME BACK TO BE THE CHAIR.
9:22:19AM PROBABLY GOING TO BE MY LAST ROLE HERE, BUT I'VE GOT SOME
9:22:23AM THINGS TO TALK ABOUT IN WEST TAMPA.
9:22:26AM YOUNGEST CRA.
9:22:30AM MOST INNOVATIVE CRA.
9:22:31AM AND WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE COMMUNICATION PROBLEMS.
9:22:34AM HOWEVER, I'VE GOT SOME BREAKING NEWS ABOUT WEST TAMPA AT THE
9:22:39AM END THAT I'LL LET YOU KNOW ABOUT, THAT YOU NEED TO BE AWARE
9:22:42AM OF.
9:22:43AM AND THEN I ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERNS GOING FORWARD WITH THE
9:22:48AM WEST TAMPA CRA, WHICH IS WHAT THE AGENDA SAYS THAT I COULD

9:22:51AM DO.
9:22:51AM SO WITH THAT SAID, I HAVE A SCRIPT HERE.
9:22:56AM BASICALLY, LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROJECTS.
9:23:00AM WEST TAMPA CRA FIRST OF ALL BEEN AROUND SINCE 2015.
9:23:07AM WE HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN THE BANK, CHARLIE.
9:23:09AM I'M VERY CONSERVATIVE LIKE YOU WHEN IT COMES TO MONEY.
9:23:12AM I SAVE UP MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TILL I DIE.
9:23:18AM I DON'T LIKE TO SPEND ON CREDIT, MR. MASSEY.
9:23:20AM I LIKE TO SPEND WITH MONEY IN THE BANK.
9:23:23AM WITH THAT SAID, FIRST OF ALL, LET'S TALK ABOUT SALCINES PARK
9:23:26AM RIGHT ON MAIN AND HOWARD.
9:23:27AM WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE A MARKET LIKE YBOR
9:23:33AM CITY HAS BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO RENEW THEIR CONTINUING
9:23:36AM MARKETING CONTRACT WITH THEIR MARKETING COMPANY, AND WE'VE
9:23:40AM BEEN BEGGING TO GET A UNIVERSAL COMPANY TO MARKET ALL OF THE
9:23:44AM CRAs, WHICH AIN'T HAPPEN.
9:23:47AM HOPEFULLY MS. MOODY CAN GET THAT DONE.
9:23:49AM BUT YBOR CITY IS GET ADDITIONAL MARKETING AND THEY ARE ON
9:23:52AM THE AGENDA TODAY TO TALK ABOUT A LOGO THAT CAN'T BE
9:23:55AM UTILIZED.
9:23:56AM WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A LOGO LIKE THAT.
9:24:02AM NOBODY HAS THE RIGHTS TO THE LOGO.
9:24:04AM WE'RE SAYING WE HAVE TO DO OUR OWN MARKETING.
9:24:07AM WHAT WE DID AT SALCINES PARK, WE PUT A WRAPAROUND FENCE.
9:24:12AM THAT CLEARED THE BLOCK RIGHT THERE.

9:24:13AM CUT HALF THE CRIME IN WEST TAMPA WHEN WE CLEARED THAT BLOCK
9:24:17AM WITH A FENCE.
9:24:18AM WE PUT A WRAPAROUND THAT SAYS CRA, NOT EVEN WEST TAMPA, BUT
9:24:24AM CRA TO GET THE WORD OUT WHEN THOSE THOUSANDS, 20,000 CARS
9:24:28AM COMING OFF THE INTERSTATE ON HOWARD HEADED NORTH THEY'LL SEE
9:24:32AM THAT ON THE CORNER.
9:24:33AM HEY, THE CRA OF TAMPA IS DOING SOMETHING TO CLEAN THIS SLUM
9:24:37AM AND BLIGHTED NEIGHBORHOOD UP.
9:24:40AM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, THE OLD BURNS RESTAURANT THAT
9:24:45AM CLOSED IS NOW WHISKEY RHYTHM, MR. KENNY ROBERTS IS REDOING
9:24:52AM THAT RESTAURANT AND OPENED WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
9:24:54AM SALCINES PARK IMPROVEMENT HAS A BUDGET OF ABOUT $1.2 MILLION
9:25:05AM WE HAVE A DESIGN-BUILD FIRM.
9:25:07AM AN AFRICAN AMERICAN LADY, GRADUATE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
9:25:09AM FLORIDA GATORS.
9:25:10AM SHE'S DOING A GOOD JOB LISTENING TO US.
9:25:12AM WE HAD LIKE FOUR OR FIVE ITERATIONS OF THE DESIGN,
9:25:15AM ITERATIONS OF THE CONCEPT.
9:25:17AM ITERATIONS OVER AND OVER.
9:25:18AM BUT WHEN WE'RE DONE, IT WILL HAVE A FENCE AROUND IT.
9:25:22AM THAT BUS STOP WILL NOT BE ON CITY PROPERTY.
9:25:24AM YOU HAVE TO STAND UP THERE, PUT SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE.
9:25:28AM BE ABLE TO CLOSE THE PARK AT NIGHT WHICH WILL HELP CPTED AND
9:25:32AM IT WILL BE LIT.
9:25:34AM THE MURAL WILL REMAIN.

9:25:37AM EVERYTHING ELSE WILL BE DIRT, BUT THE MURAL WILL REMAIN.
9:25:41AM TAKE THE PLAT, EJ SALCINES, WHEN WE OPEN IT BACK UP, GRAND
9:25:45AM OPENING, WE WANT EJ THERE, GOD WILLING HE'S STILL AROUND,
9:25:49AM CHARLIE, THE FAMILY AND THE BASEBALL PLAYER.
9:25:54AM WE NEED TO INVITE THOSE PEOPLE TO THE GRAND REOPENING,
9:25:57AM REBRANDING OF SALCINES PARK.
9:26:00AM YOU'LL SEE THAT.
9:26:02AM I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR CARRYING FORWARD THAT EFFORT.
9:26:06AM REY PARK RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, ONE THING WE DO WITH OUR
9:26:10AM MONEY, WE KNOW IT'S FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND AFFORDABLE
9:26:13AM HOUSING.
9:26:13AM BUILDING ALL KIND OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:26:16AM WE'RE WORKING ON THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS THAT THE
9:26:18AM CITY DOES OR DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THE BUDGET FOR, LIKE
9:26:20AM PARKS.
9:26:21AM LIKE DOING FOR AUTISM, MR. VIERA, DOING THOSE KIND OF
9:26:26AM THINGS.
9:26:26AM SO WE'RE LOOKING AT REY PARK IMPROVEMENTS AROUND 2 MILLION
9:26:30AM TO A BUDGET DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, BUT IT MAY GO UP
9:26:33AM BECAUSE AS YOU DO THE OLDER FACILITIES, THE OLDER BUILDINGS,
9:26:37AM YOU FIND THINGS AND YOU HAVE THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY
9:26:40AM WANTS.
9:26:41AM AND THEY WANT TO HAVE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY, COMPLETE
9:26:45AM STREETS, ALL OF THAT STUFF BECAUSE WEST TAMPA IS CHANGING.
9:26:49AM SOME PEOPLE CALL IT GENTRIFICATION.

9:26:51AM WE CALL IT MOVEMENT TO THE FUTURE BECAUSE IF YOU BRING BACK
9:26:56AM PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE, WHICH THEY DO.
9:26:57AM THEY COME BACK SOME OF THEM.
9:26:59AM SOME OF THEM DON'T WANT TO COME BACK BECAUSE THEY ALREADY
9:27:01AM SET THEIR FAMILIES IN OTHER LOCATIONS, SO WE KNOW THAT.
9:27:04AM BUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK IS THERE.
9:27:06AM HUD REQUIRES THAT.
9:27:07AM I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH EVERY LOCATION IN DAY ONE.
9:27:12AM I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE HOUSING RELOCATION ASSISTANCE
9:27:14AM PLAN.
9:27:15AM AUTHOR AND COMMENT ON IT.
9:27:18AM WE WANT TO COME BACK.
9:27:19AM MY BROTHER STAY IN PUBLIC HOUSING.
9:27:21AM HE DON'T WANT TO COME BACK TO WEST TAMPA.
9:27:26AM HE SAID HE AIN'T GOT A BATHTUB.
9:27:29AM HE WANTS A BATHTUB, OLD SCHOOL, SO HE'S STAYING WHERE HE AT.
9:27:33AM MOVING RIGHT ALONG.
9:27:34AM THE FIRM IS PHINAZEE CONSTRUCTION CONSULTANTS.
9:27:38AM WORKING WITH US SINCE MAY OF 2023 WHEN GOT NOTICE TO PROCEED
9:27:41AM ON JUNE 8 FOR REY PARK.
9:27:43AM CURRENTLY IN DESIGN PHASE, WORKING TOWARD GUARANTEED MAXIMUM
9:27:46AM PRICE FOR SALCINES PARK AND START CONSTRUCTION DATE --
9:27:51AM FENCE.
9:27:51AM ALSO FENCE GO AROUND THE OLD FREEDOM PARK.
9:27:57AM WE BOUGHT THAT.

9:27:58AM YOU GUYS APPROVED THAT, 195, WHATEVER IT WAS, PURCHASE.
9:28:02AM IT HAS ISSUES.
9:28:03AM GOT SOME BROWNFIELD.
9:28:07AM IT NEEDS TO GET A FENCE AROUND IT RATHER QUICKLY.
9:28:10AM SOMEBODY SAID GOT CANCER SITTING IN THAT PARK.
9:28:14AM INTERESTING, MR. MASSEY.
9:28:15AM GET THAT FENCE AND GET THAT WRAPPED.
9:28:17AM THAT SOIL, THE TREES, ALL THAT WILL BE MOVED.
9:28:20AM IT WILL BE DIRT.
9:28:21AM WHEN YOU SEE A FENCE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE DIRT.
9:28:23AM AS I TOLD THEM NORTH BOULEVARD WENT DOWN THAT YOU'RE GOING
9:28:25AM TO HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE BECAUSE THINGS ARE CHANGING.
9:28:28AM CHARLIE, LIKE YOU SAY, IT'S MOVING FORWARD.
9:28:31AM NOTHING IS THE SAME ANYMORE.
9:28:32AM SO WE HAVE TO ADAPT TO THAT.
9:28:34AM AND WE TRY TO STAY ABOVE THAT.
9:28:36AM NOW, ONE THING I DIDN'T DO, BUT I BETTER DO THIS, I NEED TO
9:28:39AM BACK UP, ONE THING I DO AS A CHAIR, I RECOGNIZE.
9:28:46AM I WANT TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW WHY WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN WEST
9:28:49AM TAMPA VERSUS OTHER CRAs.
9:28:52AM ONE THING, IT'S LIKE THE BUCS.
9:28:54AM WE'RE THE UNDERDOGS, BUT WE GO IN THE LOCKER ROOM AND YOU
9:28:58AM TAKE CARE OF YOUR PART.
9:29:00AM WE KNOW HOW TO PLAY BALL TOGETHER.
9:29:02AM ONE THING I DO WITH MY TEAM WHEN I'M LEADING, I RECOGNIZE

9:29:06AM THEM.
9:29:06AM I WANT TO TAKE A SECOND TO DO THAT.
9:29:08AM OF COURSE, I'M THE CHAIR.
9:29:11AM BUT CARLOS RAMIREZ IS THE VICE CHAIR AND REPRESENTS NORTH
9:29:17AM HYDE PARK.
9:29:19AM THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE TO GET BUY-IN FROM COMMUNITIES.
9:29:23AM IF YOU HAVE ONE PERSON LIKE I REPRESENT THE WEST TAMPA
9:29:25AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, BUT PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN
9:29:30AM THAT.
9:29:30AM MY MISSION IS TO GO THERE AND REPRESENT BUT LET THEM KNOW
9:29:34AM WHAT IS GOING ON.
9:29:35AM THAT WHY IT'S NOT AN INDIVIDUAL, WE HAVE NINE ORGANIZATIONS
9:29:39AM AT THE TABLE AND THREE AT-LARGE.
9:29:41AM THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.
9:29:43AM WHEN YOU GET THAT ACROSS THE BOARD WITH ALL THE CRAs, YOU
9:29:45AM WILL SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
9:29:47AM TODAY ABOUT 20 PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA.
9:29:49AM YOU GOT MICHAEL, WE BRING NOT JUST BEING A MEMBER, BUT
9:29:55AM LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
9:29:56AM YOU GOT TWO LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS SITTING ON WEST
9:29:59AM TAMPA CRA FREE.
9:30:01AM THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE THOUGHT PROCESS,
9:30:05AM ESPECIALLY WHEN THE GOAL AND THE MISSION TO CLEAN UP SLUM
9:30:08AM AND BLIGHT IS INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:30:10AM ENGINEERS UNDERSTAND THAT.

9:30:12AM YOU GET ONE OF THEM ON THERE, YOU MIGHT GET SOMETHING DONE
9:30:15AM FOR FREE.
9:30:16AM MICHAEL BRACEA, KNOWS ABOUT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, REALTOR.
9:30:22AM SANDY SANCHEZ, HER NAME SPEAKS FOR HERSELF WITH ARTS.
9:30:27AM SHE WILL PUT THAT BUG IN YOUR EAR.
9:30:29AM AT-LARGE, JANICE WILLIAMS, BEEN THERE FOREVER.
9:30:33AM USED TO BE WEST TAMPA PRESIDENT.
9:30:34AM WALTER SMITH.
9:30:36AM I KNOW YOU KNOW WALTER.
9:30:41AM NEW LADY MS. GRANDE, NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
9:30:47AM COMING IN, A ROOKIE.
9:30:48AM BREAKING HER IN.
9:30:50AM BOBBY WILSON REPRESENTING OLD WEST TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:30:53AM YOUNG, PROJECT LINK THAT'S DOWN IN THE OLD JUST BUILDING,
9:30:57AM MS. HENDERSON, PROVIDING WRAPAROUND SERVICES FOR THE SCHOOL
9:31:00AM DISTRICT BECAUSE WE PARTNER WITH PEOPLE.
9:31:02AM WE WORK WITH OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.
9:31:04AM WE'RE NOT COMPETING OR RAISING.
9:31:08AM MS. JONES, DEDICATED WITH THE WEST RIVERFRONT GROUP.
9:31:12AM DEDICATED PEOPLE.
9:31:13AM DIE-HARD PEOPLE.
9:31:15AM AND MR. BAYS DON, WEST TAMPA ALLIANCE.
9:31:23AM MY CLASSMATE FROM TAMPA, JANET LaRUSSA FENTON.
9:31:27AM ME AND HER GRADUATED FROM TAMPA CATHOLIC, REPRESENT THE WEST
9:31:30AM TAMPA CHAMBER.

9:31:32AM GOT THE CHAMBER ON THERE.
9:31:34AM WE HAVE A NEW ONE THAT I TOLD MS. MOODY WE NEED TO GET
9:31:37AM STEPPING ON SINCE YOU GUYS APPROVED THE NEW POLICIES AND
9:31:42AM PROCEDURES, MR. CARLSON, THANK YOU, WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 13
9:31:45AM MEMBER WHICH WILL BE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY.
9:31:47AM SO THERE WILL BE AN EX OFFICIO, TOO.
9:31:50AM THAT IS A COMPLETE DECK OF CARDS.
9:31:53AM LET ME GET BACK TO MY SCRIPT.
9:31:55AM I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT HERE AND
9:31:58AM I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT MENTION THEM AND THANK YOU
9:32:03AM FOR SUPPORTING ME AND ALLOWING ME TO DO WHAT I DO.
9:32:07AM GETTING BACK TO MY SCRIPT HERE -- YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO
9:32:10AM GIVE ME A SCRIPT.
9:32:11AM WE HAVE THE TEMPORARY FENCING, REY PARK IS A LARGER PARK.
9:32:15AM COMMUNITY CENTER, TALKING ABOUT MODIFYING THE FURNITURE,
9:32:20AM STUDENT FURNITURE.
9:32:22AM MAYBE WE'LL GET SOME OF THAT AUTISM TYPE STUFF.
9:32:25AM WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT, MY EX-BROTHER-IN-LAW WROTE 53
9:32:31AM BOOKS ON AUTISM.
9:32:32AM UP IN TORONTO, CANADA.
9:32:36AM NOVEMBER, INPUT SURVEY WENT LIVE.
9:32:43AM WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 15, COMMUNITY MEETING HELD AT REY PARK.
9:32:47AM SATURDAY, COMMUNITY MEETING HELD AT REY PARK.
9:32:49AM NEXT STEPS, THE COMPANY WILL PRESENT AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING
9:32:55AM TO PROVIDE UPDATES POTENTIALLY.

9:32:57AM I WILL SAY THIS BEFORE I MOVE ON, WE HAD A MAJOR SETBACK
9:33:02AM RECENTLY.
9:33:03AM MAJOR SETBACK.
9:33:05AM MAJOR SETBACK.
9:33:07AM ONE SETBACK IS THE REORGANIZATION.
9:33:10AM YOU HEARD MR. CLINTON PARIS THE IMPACT IT DID TO EAST TAMPA
9:33:14AM LAST MONTH.
9:33:16AM I DO WATCH TV.
9:33:18AM HE WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT THE REORGANIZATION, THE
9:33:21AM RESTRUCTURING, THE RESHUFFLING OF THE CARDS, HOW YOU SET UP
9:33:25AM CRAs, RULES AND REGULATIONS.
9:33:27AM IT IS A LOT TO TAKE ON TO THE REGULAR PERSON, THE REGULAR
9:33:30AM CITIZEN.
9:33:30AM HOWEVER, IT'S NECESSARY.
9:33:34AM WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING IN THE CITY, BASED ON WHAT I
9:33:37AM KNOW GOING ON, IT'S BETTER TO GET ALL THIS SETTLED OUT NOW,
9:33:41AM BUT IT WILL TAKE A WHILE.
9:33:43AM WE HAD ANOTHER MAJOR SETBACK.
9:33:46AM WE LOST OUR MANAGER, MR. JESUS NINO.
9:33:50AM THAT WAS A MAJOR HIT.
9:33:52AM THAT IS A MAJOR HIT AT THIS TIME WHEN WE GOT THESE PROJECTS
9:33:57AM GOING ON AND THIS MOMENTUM GOING ON, THAT IS A MAJOR HIT.
9:34:01AM STEP UP TO THE PLATE BUT WE'LL TEST THAT.
9:34:05AM SHE IS A ROOKIE.
9:34:06AM WE'LL BREAK HER IN.

9:34:08AM I TELL YOU, I DO BREAK ROOKIES IN.
9:34:10AM WE'LL BREAK HER IN BUT WE'LL HELP HER.
9:34:13AM WE'LL GIVE HER SUPPORT.
9:34:14AM TEAM EFFORT, BUT THAT IS A MAJOR SETBACK WHEN PEOPLE ARE
9:34:18AM ASKING ABOUT WHAT PROGRAMS YOU HAVE, WHAT MONEY YOU HAVE.
9:34:20AM THEN THEY GO TO THE WEBSITE AND ALL YOU SEE ON IT ARE THE
9:34:24AM LAST NOTES OF MEETING, JUNE OF 2023.
9:34:28AM WHAT KIND OF NONSENSE IS THAT?
9:34:30AM IF WE DONE LOST OUR MANAGER, PLEASE GET THAT WEBSITE UPDATED
9:34:34AM WITH CONTACT INFORMATION, TAKE JESUS NAME OFF THERE AND PUT
9:34:39AM WHOEVER IS SUPPOSED TO BE REPRESENTING AND GET ALL OUR NOTES
9:34:43AM FROM THE MEETINGS THERE SO PEOPLE KNOW WE STAY IN THE
9:34:46AM SUNSHINE.
9:34:47AM I'M GOING TO STAY IN THE SUNSHINE.
9:34:49AM I DON'T HAVE TIME TO BE OUT THERE IN THE DARK.
9:34:51AM I'M TELLING YOU, THAT IS A PROBLEM.
9:34:54AM RIGHT OFF THE BAT, COMMUNICATION PROBLEM.
9:34:56AM ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS IS, YOU'LL HEAR ALL THIS AND I'VE GOT
9:35:02AM BREAKING NEWS THAT WE'RE DOING OUR OWN MARKETING IN WEST
9:35:07AM TAMPA TO BRING NATIONAL ATTENTION TO IT.
9:35:09AM LET'S MOVE ON FROM THE PARKS.
9:35:13AM FREMONT LINEAR PARK, WORKING ON THAT.
9:35:16AM MARTIN LUTHER KING PARK OVER BY ROME YARD OVER THERE OFF OF
9:35:22AM ROME, AFRICAN AMERICAN ART AND CULTURE CENTER WILL BE.
9:35:27AM THOSE ARE THE PARKS WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET.

9:35:32AM WE FELT IF WE DO SALCINES, WHEN YOU COME OFF THE INTERSTATE
9:35:35AM AND SEE THE BRAND-NEW PARK, THAT WILL GIVE PEOPLE FAITH.
9:35:38AM RIGHT NOW PEOPLE SAY, YOU HAVE ALL THIS MONEY, MILLIONS AND
9:35:41AM MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.
9:35:43AM WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING.
9:35:45AM WE BELIEVE IN VISUALIZATION.
9:35:49AM AS YOU SEE IT, YOU FEEL LIKE THERE'S HOPE.
9:35:51AM RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE ARE DEPRESSED AND THEY DON'T HAVE HOPE.
9:35:56AM THAT'S THE PARKS.
9:35:57AM HOWARD AVENUE, THANK GOD FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:36:00AM THEY ARE FITTING TO REPAVE IT ALL THE WAY FROM I THINK IT'S
9:36:05AM KENNEDY -- UP TO ST. JOSEPH'S STREET AND PUT CROSSWALKS,
9:36:12AM FLASHING LIGHTS.
9:36:13AM ONE AT REY PARK BECAUSE WE HAD TWO CHILDREN GET KILLED.
9:36:17AM THAT'S WHY THE LIGHT IS UP THERE.
9:36:18AM TWO CHILDREN GOT KILLED WALKING ACROSS THE STREET TO REY
9:36:21AM PARK.
9:36:22AM WE PUT THE FLASHING LIGHT TO SLOW YOU DOWN.
9:36:24AM ALSO DROP FROM 40 MILES AN HOUR ZOOMING DOWN HOWARD, I THINK
9:36:28AM THEY WILL DROP TO 35.
9:36:30AM HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY SAY THEY WILL DROP IT 35 WHEN
9:36:33AM YOU GET UNDER THE INTERSTATE AND NORTH OF HOWARD, DROPS TO
9:36:37AM 30.
9:36:39AM HOW YOU GO 30 AND 35.
9:36:40AM I DON'T THINK THEY THOUGHT THAT OUT, CHARLIE.

9:36:42AM THEY DROP THE SPEED BECAUSE PEOPLE ZOOMING DOWN HOWARD.
9:36:45AM THEY'LL REPAVE IT, GUIDO.
9:36:47AM THANK YOU GUYS.
9:36:48AM THAT IS THE COUNTY.
9:36:49AM I'M HEARING THAT THE COUNTY -- BECAUSE WE GET INVOLVED WITH
9:36:52AM OUR ROADS, THE COUNTY IS LOBBYING THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO
9:36:55AM TAKE THE 500 SOME MILLION DOLLARS AND THEY WANT TO BRING IT
9:36:59AM DOWN HERE AND FIX UP ALL THE ROADS IN THE CITY.
9:37:02AM I THINK 26 OR 20 SOME ROADS IN THE CITY, FIX THEM ALL UP TO
9:37:07AM A STANDARD.
9:37:12AM TAKE THE DEED, TAKE CARE OF A ROAD.
9:37:16AM I DO A LOT OF BEHIND-THE-SCENES STUFF TO GET THINGS DONE
9:37:19AM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DO IT ALONE.
9:37:21AM PLUS YOU GUYS HAVE TO BE IN THE SUNSHINE.
9:37:24AM MOVING ON.
9:37:26AM THAT'S OUR ROADS AND PARKS.
9:37:28AM THEN WE GOT THE TAMPA MOVES QUICK BUILD PROGRAM ON MAIN
9:37:32AM STREET, PRECURSOR TO ULTIMATE DESIGN.
9:37:34AM NEXT PROJECT START ON MAIN STREET FIRST QUARTER OF '24.
9:37:39AM QUICK BUILD PROJECT.
9:37:40AM IMPLEMENTED BY CITY'S OPERATION TEAM.
9:37:41AM COST ABOUT $300,000 FOR MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS TO -- NORTH OF
9:37:48AM MAIN TO DELAWARE.
9:37:49AM DONE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WEST, CHARLIE, DOWN ON THE OTHER
9:37:52AM SIDE ALL THE WAY TO MacDILL.

9:37:54AM YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY MARKED IT OFF.
9:37:56AM PUT THE LITTLE CONES.
9:37:58AM IT JUST MAKES A BETTER LAYOUT.
9:38:01AM IT CONTROLS THE PARKING.
9:38:02AM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON MAIN STREET AS
9:38:05AM WELL AS WE HAVE A MAJOR, WE'RE ONE OF THE FEW AREAS CHOSEN
9:38:10AM TO DO THE REVITALIZATION OF MAIN STREET LIKE IN SOUTH TAMPA.
9:38:17AM ONE OVER THERE TOO.
9:38:19AM WE'VE GOT THAT GOING ON.
9:38:20AM MOBILITY IS GETTING INVOLVED SO PEOPLE CAN SEE SOMETHING.
9:38:23AM THEY CAN SEE THE STREETS CHANGING.
9:38:25AM AND THEN ULTIMATE MAIN STREET DESIGN PROJECT THAT HAS ABOUT
9:38:30AM 2.4 MILLION IN THE BUDGET.
9:38:32AM ONE OF THE THINGS I'M GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT TODAY IS
9:38:35AM IMPLEMENTATION.
9:38:36AM SEE, THE PROBLEM WITH ALL THE CRAs, ALL THE WAY BACK TO
9:38:41AM THE CDBG DAYS, BACK TO THE CDBG, WASN'T NO CRA.
9:38:47AM CDBG, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT MONEY, WHAT HAPPENS
9:38:52AM IS YOU CAN GET ALL THIS MONEY BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO
9:38:57AM IMPLEMENT IT.
9:38:59AM MAYBE THE REORGANIZATION WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
9:39:03AM YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD, MADAM CHAIR, UNLESS
9:39:07AM YOU HAVE PEOPLE TO IMPLEMENT IT, IT'S GOING TO SIT IN THE
9:39:09AM BANK AND DRAW INTEREST.
9:39:12AM WE HAVE 19 MILLION SITTING AROUND AND 5 MILLION FOR THE NEXT

9:39:17AM 30 YEARS.
9:39:18AM IMPLEMENTATION, SPEND THE MONEY OR ELSE I'M TELLING YOU, MY
9:39:21AM BOYS IN TALLAHASSEE WILL TAKE THE MONEY BACK.
9:39:23AM THEY ARE STARTING TO LOOK AT IF YOU DON'T SPEND YOUR MONEY
9:39:27AM IN A CRA, THIS AIN'T NO BANK ACCOUNT, LIKE YOU SAID, MR.
9:39:30AM CARLSON, WE NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY.
9:39:32AM SPEND THE MONEY AS QUICK AS YOU CAN.
9:39:35AM YOU CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS YOU IMPLEMENT AND MOVE FORWARD.
9:39:37AM THE PROCESS DEALING WITH CONSTRUCTION ADMIN, HOPEFULLY THIS
9:39:41AM NEW GETS IN AND GET THAT EXPEDITED.
9:39:47AM WE WANT TO PUT A PROJECT OUT THERE, IT TAKES FOREVER.
9:39:50AM I MEAN THEY ARE DOING DESIGN-BUILD FOR PROJECTS, $4 MILLION
9:39:53AM DON'T MAKE NO SENSE BUT THEY WANT TO DESIGN-BUILD THEMSELVES
9:39:56AM OUT OF IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE STAFF.
9:39:58AM I'M AN ENGINEER.
9:39:59AM I KNOW HOW THE GAME IS PLAYED.
9:40:02AM LET'S GET SOME IMPLEMENTATION.
9:40:03AM IF WE DON'T HAVE IT IN-HOUSE, IF WE DON'T HAVE IT IN-HOUSE,
9:40:07AM THEN GET IT OUT OF HOUSE AND LET'S GET TO MOVING.
9:40:10AM WE EVEN ADD IN OUR BUDGET TO HAVE CONSULTANTS TO MOVE STUFF
9:40:15AM FORWARD.
9:40:15AM THAT'S HOW WE GOT THE PARKING STUDY DONE.
9:40:18AM THAT'S HOW WE'RE DOING THE ALLEYS.
9:40:20AM THAT'S ABOUT MAIN STREET.
9:40:22AM LET'S GET DOWN TO ALLEYS.

9:40:24AM THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST HEADACHES THAT CAUSED YOU A
9:40:27AM PROBLEM.
9:40:28AM MAN WE HAD PEOPLE COMING.
9:40:30AM WE HAD THE OVERLAY SAY YOU MUST USE ALLEY WHEN YOU BUILD A
9:40:36AM HOUSE AND THEN EVERYBODY WENT TO IMPLEMENTING THAT.
9:40:40AM MR. MORRIS MASSEY GOT A HEADACHE.
9:40:43AM STARTED IMPLEMENTING THAT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IT DOESN'T
9:40:46AM WORK.
9:40:46AM WHY IT DON'T WORK?
9:40:48AM BECAUSE NOBODY HAS EVER DONE A REAL ASSESSMENT OF THE ALLEYS
9:40:53AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, PERIOD.
9:40:54AM PERIOD.
9:40:55AM YOU COULDN'T BIT MORE TELL ME WHETHER AN ALLEY WAS OPEN OR
9:40:59AM CLOSED.
9:41:00AM YOU GAVE ME THE DEFINITION, MR. MASSEY.
9:41:02AM I HAVE THE LEGAL DEFINITION OF OPEN, CLOSE.
9:41:06AM BECAUSE MY ALLEY TECHNICALLY WAS OPEN AND IT WASN'T.
9:41:08AM IT WAS GIVEN TO ME.
9:41:10AM I'M PAYING TAXES.
9:41:12AM HALF AN ALLEY AND PAYING TAXES FOR 20 SOME YEARS, OH, THERE
9:41:16AM WAS A SCRIVENER'S ERROR, MR. ROBINSON.
9:41:20AM YOUR ALLEY IS OPEN.
9:41:21AM HOW CAN IT BE OPEN WHEN ONLY ONE OPENING?
9:41:24AM YOU HAVE A BUILDING BLOCKING, CAN'T GET OUT.
9:41:27AM DEAD ENDED RIGHT AT MY LOT.

9:41:29AM IT AIN'T CLOSED.
9:41:31AM ISSUES WITH SCRIVENER'S ERRORS, WHETHER IT'S OPEN OR CLOSED,
9:41:35AM WHAT IS THE FINE?
9:41:37AM WHETHER IT HAS A SURFACE, HOW WIDE IT IS, WHETHER THERE ARE
9:41:41AM TREES IN IT AND YOU'RE TELLING PEOPLE TO TUESDAY AND YOU
9:41:44AM MUST DESIGN YOUR HOUSE FROM THE STREET, FROM THE REAR, NOT
9:41:48AM FROM THE FRONT TO GET RID OF PARKING AND ALL THAT.
9:41:50AM YOU HAD A HOUSE IN WEST TAMPA ON ST. JOHN AND IT WAS
9:41:53AM REJECTED BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO BUILD IT IN THE BACK.
9:41:57AM YOU ALL DID, YOU ALL OVERRULED THE OBJECTION AND LET THE
9:42:01AM PEOPLE PUT THE DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT BECAUSE YOU REALIZE
9:42:03AM THAT THE ALLEY DID NOT HAVE THE -- SO WHAT WE DID, WE SAID
9:42:13AM PUT $200,000, DO A STUDY FOR THE CITY.
9:42:15AM WE KNOW THEY AIN'T GOT MONEY.
9:42:18AM THEY CLAIM THEY AIN'T GOT NO MONEY.
9:42:20AM CRA AND CITY TWO SEPARATE THINGS.
9:42:24AM WE AIN'T THE CITY.
9:42:25AM WE'RE THE CRA.
9:42:26AM WE PUT $200,000 TO DO THE ALLEYS.
9:42:30AM WE'VE HAD A PRESENTATION, AND WE ALSO HAVE FOR THE PUBLIC
9:42:35AM THEY MAILED OUT.
9:42:36AM WE'RE TELLING PEOPLE MAIL THIS OUT.
9:42:39AM THIS LADY TALKING ABOUT COMMUNICATION.
9:42:40AM THAT IS AN ISSUE IN THE CITY.
9:42:42AM MAIL THIS OUT.

9:42:43AM I'M ANNOUNCING THIS, THE WEST TAMPA CRA ALLEYWAY ACTION PLAN
9:42:50AM COMMUNITY MEETING WILL BE THURSDAY, JANUARY 23rd, 6 TO
9:42:54AM 8 P.M. AT THE MARTIN LUTHER KING RECREATION COMPLEX AT 2200
9:42:59AM NORTH OREGON, 33607.
9:43:02AM IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT IS AT, RICK'S ON THE RIVER,
9:43:05AM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
9:43:06AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT MEETING FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND LOOK
9:43:11AM AT KIMLEY-HORN, WHO DID OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLAN, TALK
9:43:16AM ABOUT THAT.
9:43:17AM SO WE GET THE MESSAGE OUT AND WE TRY TO GET PEOPLE OUT WHEN
9:43:21AM IT'S WEST SIDE.
9:43:22AM THAT'S SOMETHING MAJOR THAT WILL HELP THE OVERALL CITY
9:43:25AM BECAUSE WE'RE DEVELOPING, LOOKING AT THE STANDARDS.
9:43:28AM DON'T EXIST.
9:43:29AM WE'RE LOOKING AT ALLEYS, THE GUYS COME IN AND START DOING
9:43:31AM ALL THIS TALKING ABOUT ALLEYS, WELL, HOW MANY CLOSED, THEY
9:43:37AM DIDN'T HAVE IT COMPLETE, CHARLIE.
9:43:39AM HORSES AND BETTING, YOU HAVE A GOOD MIND WITH NUMBERS.
9:43:43AM I SAID NO, NO, THAT DON'T MAKE NO SENSE.
9:43:46AM I WANT TO SEE EVERYTHING OPEN.
9:43:48AM I WANT TO KNOW THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ALLEYS.
9:43:50AM TOTAL AMOUNT, WHATEVER.
9:43:51AM WELL, YOU HAVE A POINT.
9:43:52AM THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW.
9:43:54AM I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE SHORTCUT VERSION.

9:43:57AM GOT THROUGH TALKING, EVERYBODY TALKING TO COMMITTEE.
9:43:59AM WHAT ABOUT IN THE GROUND?
9:44:06AM DO YOU KNOW THAT THE PIPING SYSTEM IS ANY GOOD?
9:44:08AM DO YOU KNOW THAT THE SEWER PIPE, BECAUSE IN WEST TAMPA, THE
9:44:12AM SEWERS RUN IN THE ALLEY, IF YOU KNOW WEST TAMPA, THAT WAS
9:44:15AM THE LAYOUT.
9:44:18AM ALL THE BOYS, THEY WAS IN THE ALLEY.
9:44:24AM THE ALLEY CROSSES, HOWARD, ARMENIA, YOU SEE A MANHOLE COVER
9:44:31AM RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.
9:44:32AM I SAY YOU GOT TO KNOW WHAT THE SUBSURFACE CONDITIONS ARE
9:44:36AM BEFORE YOU START TALKING ABOUT AN ALLEY.
9:44:38AM SOMEBODY GOT TO ASSESS THEM, SPEND MORE MONEY, ASSESSMENT
9:44:42AM FROM THE SEWER DEPARTMENT.
9:44:43AM OUT THERE NOW WITH VIDEO CAMERAS SEEING WHAT'S COLLAPSED.
9:44:47AM YOU CANNOT USE THE ALLEY AS TRAFFIC FOR CARS AND ALL.
9:44:52AM BEEN CASES WHERE THE PIPE HAS DETERIORATED.
9:44:55AM YOU GOT TO WATCH THAT.
9:44:57AM WATCH THE RUNOFF.
9:44:58AM HAVE A HOUSE WHERE THE CITY ALLEY WHERE ALL THE WATER RUNS
9:45:04AM ON MY LOT.
9:45:05AM DID IT IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
9:45:08AM HOW WE DO WITH THE FLOODING?
9:45:10AM THE ALLEY IS CROWNED AND RUNS IN YOUR YARD.
9:45:15AM THE YARD IS THE STORAGE.
9:45:17AM WE'LL SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

9:45:19AM COME UP FROM THIS STUDY WHAT IS REAL, NOT THIS ALTRUISM OF
9:45:23AM HAVING EVERYTHING FROM THE REAR, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO --
9:45:28AM SHOULD GET DOWN TO WHERE WE CAN MAP IT.
9:45:31AM KNOW IN THAT ALLEY THAT YOU CAN DO THIS AND MADE OUT OF
9:45:35AM THIS, GOT THIS, AND GOT THAT.
9:45:37AM WHEN YOU GET READY TO DESIGN OR DO A DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE
9:45:40AM SOME KIND OF IDEA OF WHAT IS ALLOWABLE AND WHAT CAN BE DONE,
9:45:44AM AIN'T DONE AND CLOSED AND OPENED LEGALLY.
9:45:48AM THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN THE CITY IS WE DON'T
9:45:50AM USE TECHNOLOGY TO IDENTIFY AND COMMUNICATE INFORMATION.
9:45:55AM NOW, THAT'S OUR ALLEYS.
9:45:57AM THESE ARE THE BIG ONES.
9:45:59AM WE HAVE THIS PILOT PROJECT GOING WITH THAT.
9:46:01AM LET ME CLOSE WITH MY ASK ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE I
9:46:06AM GOT UP THIS MORNING, ACTUALLY LAST NIGHT.
9:46:09AM FIRST OF ALL, TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY IS GOING TO BE ADDED
9:46:13AM HOPEFULLY TO OUR COMMITTEE.
9:46:14AM WE NEED THEM QUICK.
9:46:15AM WE NEED IMPLEMENTATION, IMPLEMENTATION, IMPLEMENTATION.
9:46:19AM AND THAT'S THE STAFFING ISSUE.
9:46:22AM THAT IS AN ISSUE OF COMMITMENT AND A MISSION OF WANTING TO
9:46:29AM GET IT DONE.
9:46:30AM I KNOW YOU HAVE 8 CRAs.
9:46:32AM WE ARE ASKING, I'VE BEEN WORKING THIS ALL MY LIFE, CHARLIE.
9:46:36AM I THINK THE MAYOR CALLED IT, DESIGNATED MAYOR OF WEST TAMPA

9:46:40AM EVERY NOW AND THEN.
9:46:41AM I EAT, BREATHE AND SLEEP.
9:46:43AM I HAVE NOT LEFT MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:46:45AM I LEFT AND WENT TO COLLEGE AND CAME BACK TO MY SLUM.AND
9:46:48AM BLIGHTED NEIGHBORHOOD TO CLEAN IT UP.
9:46:53AM I WANT TO CLEAN IT UP BEFORE I LEAVE.
9:46:55AM LEAVE A LEGACY, CLEANING UP SLUM AND BLIGHT.
9:46:59AM PEOPLE WILL BE ENVIOUS, JUST LIKE CHANNELSIDE.
9:47:03AM CHANNELSIDE ON MAIN STREET.
9:47:05AM WEBSITE, TALKED ABOUT THAT.
9:47:07AM LET'S GET IT UPDATED.
9:47:08AM EVERY DAY IT'S SITTING THERE OUTDATED, NO MEETING NOTES ON
9:47:12AM IT, WRONG CONTACT INFORMATION.
9:47:14AM MAN LEFT THE CITY TO GO OVER TO CLEARWATER.
9:47:18AM THAT'S BAD.
9:47:19AM JUST LOOKS BAD.
9:47:21AM WE NEED AN ADDRESS.
9:47:25AM OVER HERE ON JACKSON STREET?
9:47:26AM OVER ON 22nd?
9:47:27AM WHERE THEY AT?
9:47:28AM WEBSITE SAYS 306 JACKSON STREET.
9:47:32AM OVER THERE AT THE POLICE STATION.
9:47:35AM SO LET'S FIND A HOME AND GET THEM IN THERE AND GET THIS OVER
9:47:39AM WITH BECAUSE THAT IS CONFUSING TO PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY
9:47:42AM DEVELOPMENT.

9:47:43AM WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN WEST TAMPA.
9:47:45AM WE HAVE SOME MAJOR DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE PRIVATELY BEING DONE
9:47:48AM WITH NOT ONE DIME OF THE CITY MONEY.
9:47:51AM WE GOT HOUSES COMING OUT OF THE GROUND LIKE TREES.
9:47:54AM AS THEY MOVE, THEY ARE NOT WAITING.
9:47:57AM THEY ARE NOT WAITING BECAUSE YOU GUYS HAVE SAID YOU WANT
9:48:00AM HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:48:01AM NOW THEY ARE SAYING WE NEED HOUSING, SOMEBODY AIN'T GOT NO
9:48:06AM MONEY BACK, HOUSING IS WHAT'S GOING ON.
9:48:09AM YOU'LL SEE WE MOVE IT UP.
9:48:11AM HOUSING IS AN ISSUE.
9:48:12AM YOU'RE NOT GOING TO START -- I TELL YOU THIS, IF THE CITY
9:48:17AM NEVER KNOCKED DOWN ALL THE HOUSES WITH THE SYSTEMIC CODE
9:48:21AM ENFORCEMENT, I'M DOING A BOOK, CHARLIE, STARTING NEXT MONTH,
9:48:24AM BLACK HISTORY MONTH, KNOCKED ALL THE HOUSES DOWN IT WOULD BE
9:48:27AM REHAB.
9:48:29AM CHEAPER TO REHAB A WOOD FRAME STRUCTURE THAN IT IS TO KNOCK
9:48:32AM IT DOWN AND HOOK EVERYTHING UP TO IT.
9:48:35AM SEE, I WAS FIGHTING FOR THAT.
9:48:36AM THEY WANTED TO THROW ME IN JAIL.
9:48:38AM ACTUALLY WANTED TO KILL ME AT ONE TIME.
9:48:41AM STAY ALIVE.
9:48:45AM KEEP MY FAMILY ALIVE.
9:48:47AM I HAVE A REAL PASSION, MR. CARLSON, ABOUT WHAT I DO.
9:48:51AM BREAKING NEWS IN CLOSING, I THINK I DONE SAID ENOUGH, RIGHT?

9:48:54AM THE BREAKING NEWS, FIRST, I MET WITH ONE OF YOU ALL LONGTIME
9:49:00AM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:49:02AM TALKED TO HER -- SHE SAID HER SISTER PASSED RECENTLY.
9:49:06AM I TALKED TO HER YESTERDAY.
9:49:09AM USED TO HAVE THE COFFEE CON LECHE ON FIG, ROME, SOMETHING
9:49:15AM LIKE THAT.
9:49:17AM I GOT TO GET DOWN TO SOUTH CYPRESS.
9:49:20AM LINDA SAUL-SENA.
9:49:21AM I KNOW LINDA SAUL-SENA FOR DECADES.
9:49:26AM DECADES, WHEN SHE WAS LINDA SAUL.
9:49:28AM JOAN, JAN, STEPHANIE, THOSE FOUR LADIES TAUGHT ME HISTORICAL
9:49:42AM PRESERVATION.
9:49:43AM COMMUNITY.
9:49:46AM THE VERY FIRST NONPROFIT 501(C)(3) COMMUNITY GROUP IN THIS
9:49:50AM TOWN WAS THE WEST TAMPA REVITALIZATION INC. IN 1980.
9:49:57AM ALL THEM COME BEHIND THAT.
9:50:01AM WE WERE DOING THAT BACK WITH SCHEMES TO TAKE SHOTGUN HOUSES.
9:50:05AM REHAB.
9:50:06AM BUILD MONEY UP AND EQUITY FOR PEOPLE AND HERE COMES
9:50:09AM SYSTEMATIC CODE ENFORCEMENT, BREAKING THE CORRUPTION, THE
9:50:12AM PUBLIC CORRUPTION IN HOUSING.
9:50:14AM ALWAYS WILL AND ALWAYS WILL BE.
9:50:16AM WE STOPPED THAT.
9:50:19AM LINDA SAUL SAYS THERE WILL BE AN ARTICLE ON WEST TAMPA.
9:50:23AM SHE'S NOW WRITING BACK FOR CREATIVE LOAFING.

9:50:27AM I'LL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
9:50:28AM BREAKING NEWS.
9:50:29AM BREAKING NEWS, NOT SAD NEWS, GOOD NEWS.
9:50:32AM WEST TAMPA, A LOT OF NEGATIVE.
9:50:34AM WE HAVE CAMERAS ON EVERY BLOCK.
9:50:38AM COME ACTING LIKE A FOOL, WE'LL HAVE YOU ON CAMERA.
9:50:41AM WE'RE GONNA GET YOU.
9:50:44AM WE HAVE CAMERAS.
9:50:45AM I TELL EVERYBODY, WE GOT THEM.
9:50:47AM COME OVER WE'LL GET YOU.
9:50:49AM COME OVER SHOOT UP, THAT IS CRIME, BUT WE'LL TRACK YOU DOWN.
9:50:52AM TPD WILL GET YOU, FEDS, SOMEBODY, ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIRE
9:50:57AM WILL BE FINING YOU.
9:50:58AM LINDA WILL DO AN ARTICLE ON WEST TAMPA.
9:51:04AM LET'S LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.
9:51:07AM WAY TO GET WEST TAMPA MARKETED.
9:51:08AM WAY TO GET INFORMATION OUT ON WHAT WE'RE DOING.
9:51:11AM SHE WRITES PRETTY WELL.
9:51:13AM SHE STOPPED BUT SHE'S BACK TO DOING IT.
9:51:15AM THAT'S BREAKING NEWS.
9:51:16AM WEARING THIS BUC PIN NOT BECAUSE I SIT ON THE SPORTS
9:51:19AM AUTHORITY.
9:51:20AM I LIKE THE BUCS.
9:51:21AM HERE IS THE DEAL.
9:51:26AM YESTERDAY WE HAD A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY IN THE FOSTERS BARB

9:51:32AM SHOP.
9:51:33AM IF YOU AIN'T BEEN TO WEST TAMPA, DON'T KNOW FOSTERS
9:51:37AM BARBERSHOP.
9:51:39AM LANDMARK FOR MR. NATHANIEL FOSTER.
9:51:43AM UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT US ON NATIONAL TV.
9:51:51AM WHEN YOU WATCH THE GAME THIS COMING SUNDAY, PLEASE TURN ON
9:51:55AM YOUR TV BEFORE 3:00 BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU TO MISS IT.
9:52:00AM YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A CLIP AND THEY ARE DOING TAMPA AND THEY
9:52:04AM ARE DOING DETROIT BECAUSE THEY DID US FIRST BECAUSE WE KNOW
9:52:10AM COACH TONY DUNGY.
9:52:12AM REAL GOOD FRIEND OF MINE.
9:52:14AM GOOD FRIEND OF THE BARBERSHOP.
9:52:16AM FOSTERS BARBERSHOP IN WEST TAMPA WILL BE FEATURED RIGHT
9:52:23AM BEFORE THAT GAME AND ALSO THE BARBERSHOP UP IN DETROIT WILL
9:52:28AM BE FEATURED.
9:52:29AM WE SPENT FIVE HOURS OF SHOOTING A FILM FOR THEM TO DO BEFORE
9:52:36AM THE GAME ABOUT FOSTERS BARBERSHOP IN WEST TAMPA.
9:52:40AM NATIONAL TV, WHEN EVERYBODY IS WATCHING THAT PLAYOFF GAME,
9:52:44AM THERE WILL BE A CLIP, LAST TIME THEY DID IT AFTER THE SUPER
9:52:48AM BOWL, I THINK THAT ONE ABOUT A MINUTE.
9:52:51AM I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG GET, BUT THEY HAD ME IN A CHAIR
9:52:54AM GETTING A HAIR CUT.
9:52:56AM WATCH NBC.
9:52:58AM GOING TO PUT WEST TAMPA ON THE MAP.
9:53:01AM WE'RE NOT WAITING ON THE CITY TO GO HIRE SOME CONSULTANT

9:53:05AM LIKE YBOR CITY TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT.
9:53:07AM WHAT I WANT TO SAY THAT'S OUR BREAKING NEWS.
9:53:10AM THAT'S OUR STATUS OF WHERE WE ARE, AND WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT
9:53:15AM YOU'RE DOING.
9:53:16AM WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT COME TO YOU.
9:53:18AM I DON'T NEED TO GET IN ALL THE DETAILS AND ALL OF THAT.
9:53:21AM I WILL TELL YOU THIS, I WILL LEAK THIS VERY GINGERLY, THE
9:53:28AM WEST TAMPA CRA WROTE A LETTER IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR TO THE
9:53:32AM SCHOOL DISTRICT OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WHEN ADDISON DAVIS
9:53:36AM WAS STILL THERE.
9:53:37AM CARLOS RAMIREZ WAS THE CHAIR AT THE TIME REQUESTED THAT THEY
9:53:41AM TAKE A LOOK AT HAVING A BRAND-NEW PRE-K THROUGH 8th GRADE
9:53:46AM SCHOOL.
9:53:48AM DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL EVER DO IT, BUT WE MADE THAT REQUEST
9:53:51AM BECAUSE WE SAW WEST RIVER, ROME YARD, OTHER SIDE OF CYPRESS
9:53:56AM STREET ALL THE DEVELOPMENT COMING IN, THAT THERE IS A
9:54:01AM REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE A NEW SCHOOL SINCE THEY CLOSED THE
9:54:05AM OLD ONE.
9:54:06AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL HAPPEN.
9:54:08AM WE'RE PRAYING AND HOPING THAT MAYBE IT MIGHT HAPPEN.
9:54:12AM IF THAT HAPPENS, I'M DONE.
9:54:13AM THAT IS THE PINNACLE OF MY CAREER.
9:54:16AM WE HAVE THE RIVERWALK COMING.
9:54:18AM WE'VE GOT THIS DEVELOPMENT COMING.
9:54:20AM HOPEFULLY ROME YARD GET OUT.

9:54:22AM I'LL TELL YOU THIS MR. CARLSON THAT COMMUNITY BENEFIT
9:54:26AM AGREEMENT TO ROME YARD, GUESS WHO IS USING IT AND LOOKING AT
9:54:29AM IT SERIOUSLY, ST. PETERSBURG.
9:54:38AM THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH A COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT
9:54:41AM AGREEMENT.
9:54:43AM MR. MASSEY, HELL OF A DEAL.
9:54:45AM ALL THIS HOUSING STUFF WE GET WITH ROME YARD RELATED GUYS.
9:54:51AM CULTURE CENTER, 3,700 SQUARE FOOT OF WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
9:54:59AM CENTER.
9:54:59AM THAT WASN'T EASY.
9:55:01AM RAY HINDS, PEOPLE DOING THE COMMUNITY BENEFIT, ASKED ME TO
9:55:06AM COME AS AN EXPERT TO LET THEM KNOW HOW WE DID IT, WHAT WE
9:55:11AM DID.
9:55:11AM I SENT THEM A FULLY EXECUTED COPY.
9:55:14AM WITH THAT, THAT'S MY REPORT, MS. HENDERSON.
9:55:17AM IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'LL ANSWER.
9:55:19AM THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY.
9:55:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. ROBINSON.
9:55:23AM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:55:24AM ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK?
9:55:26AM CLENDENIN.
9:55:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WAS THE BEST CAC REPORT WE'VE EVER
9:55:31AM HAD.
9:55:32AM THANK YOU.
9:55:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.

9:55:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS THE BEST BUT IT WAS
9:55:36AM THE LONGEST.
9:55:39AM >> CLINTON PARIS IS LONGER THAN ME.
9:55:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO SAY THAT, ONE, I WANT TO
9:55:46AM UNDERSTAND THIS BROMANCE YOU HAVE BETWEEN YOURSELF AND
9:55:48AM CHARLIE MIRANDA.
9:55:52AM >> WHAT IT IS IS THIS, ME AND CHARLIE GO BACK A LONG, LONG
9:55:58AM WAY.
9:55:58AM CHARLIE IS TRULY WEST TAMPA'S FINEST.
9:56:02AM HE IS OLD SCHOOL, NO NONSENSE, CALL IT THE WAY HE SEE IT AND
9:56:08AM HE KEEPS IT REAL.
9:56:09AM THAT'S WHY HE GET REELECTED, REELECTED, REELECTED.
9:56:12AM CHARLIE MIRANDA IS AN ICON.
9:56:19AM WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA THAT ARE ICONS, WE WORK
9:56:22AM WITH THEM.
9:56:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEXT TIME YOU COME UP, WE NEED TO GIVE
9:56:27AM NOTIFICATION FOR USF STUDENTS AND UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA
9:56:30AM STUDENTS TO START A DRINKING GAME EVERY TIME YOU MENTION
9:56:34AM CHARLIE MIRANDA'S NAME.
9:56:35AM THEY WOULD BE SLEEPING THEIR HANGOVER OFF BY ABOUT NOON.
9:56:39AM YOU MENTIONED IMPLEMENTATION, I KNOW YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS,
9:56:42AM BUT FOR PEOPLE LISTENING, DIRECTOR MOODY HAS TAKEN LEAPS AND
9:56:48AM BOUNDS AND STEPS IN REORGANIZATION AND CHANGING THE
9:56:51AM DIRECTION OF THE CRAs.
9:56:52AM I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING.

9:56:56AM I THINK SHE'S REALLY PUTTING IN AN INFRASTRUCTURE AND A
9:56:59AM SKELETON FRAMEWORK TO BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS YOU CALLED
9:57:03AM OUT TODAY.
9:57:04AM I'VE GOT A GREAT DEAL OF CONFIDENCE IN THE DIRECTION SHE'S
9:57:07AM TAKING THE CRA AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTATION.
9:57:09AM WE DO POLICY AND THE STAFF DOES IMPLEMENTATION, OF COURSE.
9:57:12AM SHE'S ONLY BEEN HERE A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
9:57:15AM IN THE VERY FEW MONTHS SHE'S BEEN WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE
9:57:18AM CRA, I THINK SHE'S REALLY PUT AND CHANGE IS DIFFICULT FOR A
9:57:22AM LOT OF PEOPLE.
9:57:23AM I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK BACK IN PROBABLY A YEAR AND A HALF OR
9:57:27AM TWO, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THESE STEPS THAT SHE'S TAKEN
9:57:32AM IN THE FIRST FEW MONTHS IN THE JOB WILL REALLY PAY DIVIDENDS
9:57:36AM FOR ALL OF THE CRAs, INCLUDING WEST TAMPA.
9:57:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:57:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:57:44AM MR. JOE ROBINSON, THANK YOU FOR BEING WHO YOU ARE.
9:57:47AM THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CRA FOR STAYING DOWN THERE
9:57:50AM AND GRINDING AND MAKING THINGS HAPPEN.
9:57:52AM WHEN YOU TAKE HABANA AVENUE, KENNEDY BOULEVARD TO COLUMBUS
9:57:57AM DRIVE, IF YOU HAVE DRIVEN THAT STREET A THOUSAND TIMES,
9:58:02AM EVERY TIME YOU GO DOWN THERE NOW, THERE IS A BUILDING BEING
9:58:06AM CHANGED.
9:58:07AM WHY IS THAT HAPPENING?
9:58:08AM HAPPENING BECAUSE THE CRA STARTED WITH ONE AND ANOTHER ONE

9:58:11AM AND ANOTHER ONE.
9:58:12AM THERE ARE HOTELS BEING BUILT ON THE CORNER OF HOWARD AND
9:58:17AM NASSAU.
9:58:18AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDINGS REMODELED IN THE WEST TAMPA
9:58:21AM AREA, HEART OF MAIN STREET BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH OF MAIN,
9:58:24AM IT'S AN AMAZING THING.
9:58:26AM REMEMBER THE OLD RAG COMPANY.
9:58:29AM NOW LOOK AT THE BLUE BUILDING THERE.
9:58:31AM THE INDIVIDUAL BOUGHT IT I THINK TO STORE HIS CAR.
9:58:35AM IT'S AN AMAZING THING HAPPENING.
9:58:37AM THE OTHER DAY, ANOTHER BUILDING I SAW ON STILTS BEING HELD
9:58:40AM UP BECAUSE THEY ARE REMODELING IT BACK LIKE IT WAS 50, 100
9:58:44AM YEARS AGO.
9:58:44AM ALL THESE THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND ONE DAY SOMEBODY WILL
9:58:47AM COME BY AND SAY, MY GOD, WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
9:58:50AM BUT IT'S HAPPENING SO QUICKLY YET SO METHODICALLY THAT YOU
9:58:54AM DON'T NOTICE IT BECAUSE YOU'RE DRIVING BY AND YOU ARE USED
9:58:58AM TO SEEING WHAT IS THERE BEFORE AND YOUR EYES SAY WHAT
9:59:02AM HAPPENED NOW, CATCH A DIFFERENT GLIMPSE OF THINGS.
9:59:05AM IT'S HAPPENING ALL THE TIME.
9:59:06AM WEST TAMPA IS COMING BACK LIKE IT USED TO BE A HUNDRED YEARS
9:59:10AM AGO AND LOOKING FANTASTIC AND YOUR CRA OUGHT TO BE COMMENDED
9:59:14AM BECAUSE IT'S ONE THAT REALLY STICKS TO WHAT IT SAYS AND DOES
9:59:18AM WHAT IT HAS TO DO.
9:59:19AM THANK YOU AND YOUR CRA MEMBERS, ALL OF YOU FOR BEING WHO YOU

9:59:22AM ARE AND BEING COMMITTED TO MAKING THE THINGS START BUT ALSO
9:59:26AM MAKE IT FINISHED SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE.
9:59:28AM AND THESE ARE THE THINGS WE NEED.
9:59:31AM >> CHARLIE SO YOU KNOW, VAT OF BANANAS COMING OUT TO
9:59:35AM STEINBRENNER FIELD FIRST -- THAT'S BASEBALL.
9:59:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:59:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
9:59:43AM I LOVE MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL.
9:59:45AM I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AS WELL.
9:59:48AM IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE PRESENTATION.
9:59:50AM WEST TAMPA CRA IS 100% A MODEL FOR OTHERS.
9:59:53AM WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT OTHERS CAN LOOK AT AND
9:59:58AM SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO.
9:59:59AM I PARTICULARLY AM INTERESTED IN THE ALLEY STUDY.
10:00:03AM I THINK THAT IS A GREAT MODEL THAT THE CITY CAN TAKE ON AND
10:00:07AM DO, ESPECIALLY IF IT WAS THAT CHEAP, HONESTLY, THAT'S GREAT.
10:00:11AM YOU ALL ARE GOING TO GIVE THE PARAMETERS OF HOW WE CAN DO
10:00:15AM THAT FOR THE REST OF THE CITY.
10:00:17AM TO ME, THAT'S WHAT THE CRA IS MADE FOR.
10:00:19AM MADE FOR THESE TYPE OF PILOTS.
10:00:21AM MADE FOR THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
10:00:24AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
10:00:25AM THAT'S CONSTANTLY WHAT WE SEE IN THE CRA AND I APPRECIATE IT
10:00:28AM AND LOOK FORWARD.
10:00:30AM I AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.

10:00:32AM I KNOW THERE'S SOME CHANGE COMING, BUT I KNOW, MS. MOODY,
10:00:37AM YOU'RE GOING TO TRAIN HER WELL.
10:00:40AM SHE ALREADY HAS A LOT, BUT I KNOW YOU WILL STEEP HER IN THE
10:00:43AM WAYS OF WEST TAMPA.
10:00:45AM I EXPECT A LOT OF STUFF TO COME OUT OF THE GROUND IN 2024 IN
10:00:49AM WEST TAMPA.
10:00:51AM SO LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
10:00:52AM I LOVE THE FENCE COVER IDEA.
10:00:55AM THAT'S REALLY, REALLY BRILLIANT.
10:00:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:01:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR THE DETAILED PRESENTATION AND
10:01:03AM WELCOME BACK AS CHAIR AGAIN.
10:01:05AM I HAVE A FEW HOPEFULLY QUICK QUESTIONS.
10:01:10AM YOU MENTIONED THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT PLAN THAT
10:01:12AM WAS DONE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
10:01:14AM ONE WAS DONE IN PALMA CEIA AND ONE WAS DONE AT MAIN STREET.
10:01:19AM THE ONE IN PALMA CEIA, THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO GO BACK IN AND
10:01:23AM WORK WITH STAFF TO REDO IT.
10:01:25AM ARE YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES HAPPY WITH THE ONE ON MAIN
10:01:29AM STREET?
10:01:29AM DO YOU FEEL IT IS SUFFICIENTLY --
10:01:31AM >> IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
10:01:33AM IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
10:01:35AM IT'S NOT FINALIZED.
10:01:37AM IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.

10:01:38AM WE PUT MONEY THERE, BUT WE'VE GOT TO LOOK AT -- SEE, WHAT
10:01:43AM HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS ACTUALLY BUILT.
10:01:46AM ALREADY $5 MILLION, PUTTING ALL THAT ON THE OLD BARBEQUE
10:01:51AM KING AND ALL THAT.
10:01:53AM WE'RE TRYING TO FINALIZE STUFF.
10:01:55AM ITEM ON THE AGENDA TO CHANGE TO ANOTHER CORPORATION FOR
10:01:59AM FACADE MONEY.
10:02:01AM I TRACK THAT STUFF.
10:02:02AM YES, WE'RE SATISFIED WITH IT, BUT IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
10:02:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: WOULD YOU MIND BECAUSE THAT IS TECHNICALLY
10:02:08AM NOT A CRA PROJECT, BUT WOULD YOU MIND JUST AS YOU GET
10:02:11AM UPDATES ON IT, MAYBE SEND IT TO ALL OF COUNCIL SO WE CAN
10:02:14AM LOOK AT IT AND STAY ON TOP OF IT?
10:02:18AM IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR OR AGAINST IT, THAT WOULD BE
10:02:21AM GOOD, TOO.
10:02:22AM THERE IS TALK THAT THE ROME PROJECT HAS NOT MOVED FORWARD.
10:02:26AM I CAN SEE THE WEST RIVER PROJECT IS OUT OF THE GROUND.
10:02:28AM DOES YOUR COMMITTEE HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT OR ANYTHING
10:02:31AM THAT CRA SHOULD DO TO GET ONE PROJECT MOVING?
10:02:35AM >> HAVING BEEN EMBEDDED IN THE WHOLE SELECTION PROCESS AND
10:02:38AM TOOK A BEATING FOR IT, MR. CARLSON, LIKE 12 OR 14 AGREEMENTS
10:02:44AM GOT TO BE APPROVED, MR. MASSEY, BEFORE THEY CAN GET TO
10:02:47AM BREAKING GROUND OUT THERE.
10:02:49AM THEY GOT A LOT OF AGREEMENTS THAT YOU GUYS GOT TO APPROVE
10:02:54AM BEFORE THEY MOVE FORWARD.

10:02:56AM THEY AIN'T GOT NO PERMIT YET.
10:02:58AM MR. MASSEY CAN EXPLAIN.
10:03:00AM HE CAN TELL YOU BETTER HOW MANY IS IT WE GOT TO GET
10:03:03AM APPROVED?
10:03:03AM 14, 15?
10:03:05AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: BASIC AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
10:03:08AM PART OF WHAT YOU ALL APPROVED IN CONJUNCTION WITH REZONING
10:03:11AM OF ROME YARD WAS ALSO A DEVELOPMENT SCHEDULE.
10:03:14AM SO THERE ARE MILESTONES THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET.
10:03:17AM NONE OF THOSE DATES, WE'VE NOT ARRIVED AT THOSE DATES YET.
10:03:21AM I DO KNOW THAT STAFF IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE RELATED
10:03:26AM GROUP TO MONITOR THEIR PROGRESS.
10:03:27AM I CAN'T COMMENT -- THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.
10:03:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
10:03:34AM IF YOU HAVE ANY UPDATES ON THAT OR THINGS WE CAN DO, LET US
10:03:38AM KNOW.
10:03:38AM >> ONE ADVANTAGE OF THAT NOT BEING DONE YET, GUESS WHAT, IT
10:03:41AM DOES BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
10:03:43AM YOU KNOW WHY?
10:03:43AM METROPOLITAN GET TO PUT THEIR TENT BACK OUT THERE.
10:03:46AM THE METROPOLITAN TENT.
10:03:49AM WEST TAMPA, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT BACK.
10:03:52AM IF THAT LOT IS STILL VACANT, METROPOLITAN WILL PUT THAT TENT
10:03:56AM OUT THERE.
10:03:57AM THEY WILL SERVE THE PUBLIC.

10:03:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU MENTIONED THE WEST BANK RIVERWALK.
10:04:03AM THAT PROJECT NOW BY MY ROUGH ESTIMATES INCLUDING INTEREST IS
10:04:07AM GOING TO BE ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS GOING FROM
10:04:09AM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA TO BLAKE.
10:04:11AM ONE OF THE JUSTIFICATIONS THAT PEOPLE GIVE, NOT OFFICIAL
10:04:16AM JUSTIFICATION, ONE OF THE UNOFFICIAL JUSTIFICATIONS IS IT
10:04:20AM WILL PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT.
10:04:22AM IN THAT SMALL STRETCH THERE ISN'T MUCH ROOM FOR DEVELOPMENT.
10:04:26AM ONE OF THE BIG PLACES THAT PEOPLE SPECULATE AND THIS IS
10:04:29AM COMPLETE SPECULATION, NOT ANY KIND OF OFFICIAL THING I
10:04:32AM HEARD, IS THAT THE SPECULATION IS THAT A DEVELOPER WANTS TO
10:04:35AM BUY BLAKE AND MOVE IT, YOU KNOW THE CONTROVERSY OF WHEN IT
10:04:40AM MOVED BEFORE, IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO OR WHATEVER, $35 MILLION
10:04:43AM TO BUILD THE GREAT SCHOOL THAT'S THERE, 45.
10:04:49AM I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE OKAY MOVING THAT
10:04:53AM OR THAT A DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.
10:04:55AM WITHOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING IT'S HARD TO JUSTIFY
10:04:59AM THE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE RIVERWALK.
10:05:01AM DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHTS INTO HOW THE COMMUNITY WOULD FEEL
10:05:05AM ABOUT THAT OR IF IT IS REAL OR JUST A RUMOR?
10:05:08AM >> THAT IS MORE RUMOR THAN REAL.
10:05:09AM THE REALITY IS THIS, BLAKE AIN'T GOING NOWHERE.
10:05:12AM WHAT SCHOOL PROBABLY BEFORE BLAKE WOULD BE JEFFERSON.
10:05:18AM MESSING WITH ALL OF YOU.
10:05:21AM PLAY THAT GAME.

10:05:23AM JEFFERSON WOULD GO BEFORE BLAKE.
10:05:25AM JEFFERSON LAND WOULD BE CHEAPER TO BUY THAN BLAKE BECAUSE IT
10:05:30AM IS ON THE RIVER, ON THE POINT.
10:05:33AM THAT'S BEEN RUMOR.
10:05:34AM THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THAT.
10:05:36AM BUT HAVING BEEN A SIGNATURE TO THE LETTER THAT GO TO THE
10:05:42AM U.S. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ON BEHALF OF THE GRANT WE
10:05:44AM GOT FOR 24 MILLION, I'LL TELL YOU THIS, WE WANT THAT WALK ON
10:05:50AM OUR SIDE.
10:05:50AM THE CITY PLAN, IT TOOK THE CITY ABOUT TEN YEARS TO BUY THE
10:05:55AM RIGHT-OF-WAY FROM CASS STREET ALL THE WAY TO RICK'S ON THE
10:06:00AM RIVER.
10:06:01AM THERE IS A 50-FOOT SLIVER ON THE NORTH SIDE OF RICK'S THAT
10:06:06AM THE CITY OWN.
10:06:07AM I JUST TALKED TO HIM THE OTHER DAY.
10:06:10AM THEY WANTED TO BUY IT.
10:06:11AM CITY, NO, WE NEED IT TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE DEVELOPMENT AT
10:06:15AM ROME YARD.
10:06:16AM WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE DEVELOPMENT
10:06:20AM GOING OVER THERE.
10:06:21AM I WILL TELL YOU THIS, THE DEVELOPMENT AREA THAT IS BEING
10:06:26AM CONSIDERED, BUT THIS IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, IS THAT WE
10:06:31AM WOULD LIKE -- WE HAVE A WOMAN'S SOCCER TEAM COMING OVER
10:06:36AM THERE WITH BLAKE GETTING EXPANDED.
10:06:39AM WE'RE TELLING THEM THEY DO THAT.

10:06:45AM LOOK, MAN, WHEN YOU GET DONE WIDENING THAT OUT, WE WANT A
10:06:48AM SIX-LANE TRACK AROUND IT, MINIMUM, LIKE HILLSBOROUGH GOT.
10:06:53AM MOVE THAT TRACK SITTING OVER THERE ON THE RIVER.
10:06:57AM AIN'T NOBODY USING IT AND PUT IT WHERE IT BELONG AROUND THE
10:07:02AM FOOTBALL FIELD.
10:07:02AM WHY?
10:07:03AM SO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THIS IS THE TREND NATIONWIDE.
10:07:08AM IF YOU CHECK CALIFORNIA, CHECK SOME OTHER CITIES, TREND WITH
10:07:12AM SCHOOL BUILDINGS CLOSING AND PROPERTY THAT AIN'T BEING
10:07:15AM UTILIZED TO HELP SOLVE THE HOUSING PROBLEM, THE WORKFORCE
10:07:20AM HOUSING.
10:07:20AM I'M PUSHING THIS DISTRICT TO MOVE THAT WAY SO WE CAN BE IN
10:07:23AM THE LATEST OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:07:25AM I DO A LOT OF RESEARCH ON WORKFORCE HOUSING, BELIEVE IT OR
10:07:28AM NOT.
10:07:29AM USED TO OWN 40 HOUSES, RIGHT, CHARLIE?
10:07:32AM SO THE THING IS THAT IF YOU MOVE THAT TRACK FROM THE RIVER
10:07:38AM SITTING OUT THERE, NOBODY USING.
10:07:40AM NOT GOING TO USE IT, SCHOOL CLOSED, YOU CAN DEVELOP THAT
10:07:46AM TRACK AREA WHICH THE CITY HAS GOT THE WALK, THEY HAVE THE 16
10:07:50AM FEET FROM THE RIVER'S EDGE UP AND EVEN AS PART OF THAT
10:07:55AM THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME LIVING SHORE DEVELOPMENT GOING ON
10:07:59AM LIKE THEY GOT UP THERE, LIVING SHORE.
10:08:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: BEFORE THE CHAIR CUTS ME OFF, WE'LL HAVE TO
10:08:08AM TALK OVER COFFEE.

10:08:11AM >> IT'S A GOOD THING.
10:08:12AM WE'RE NOT KNOCKING IT.
10:08:13AM WE WANT IT.
10:08:14AM WE THINK IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE A CONNECTIVITY.
10:08:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST SO YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID THIS PUBLICLY
10:08:20AM BUT JUST TO REPEAT, I'M IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING THE RIVERWALK,
10:08:23AM JUST NOT NOW WITH THE INTEREST RATES THE WAY THEY ARE AND
10:08:26AM THE PRIORITIES IN THE CITY.
10:08:27AM I THINK THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY
10:08:29AM ON.
10:08:30AM IF IT WAS STILL LIKE IT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO WHERE THE
10:08:33AM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS PAYING TWO-THIRDS OF IT, I WOULD BE
10:08:35AM OKAY.
10:08:36AM BUT AT THIS LEVEL, WE CAN'T TELL PEOPLE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING
10:08:39AM TO FIX THEIR POTHOLES SO WE CAN BUILD THAT RIGHT NOW.
10:08:42AM BACK TO THE MONEY ISSUE, I AGREE WITH YOU THAT WE NEED TO
10:08:45AM SPEND THE MONEY IN THE CRA DISTRICTS.
10:08:46AM THE STATE LEGISLATURE, AS YOU KNOW AND SAID IS LOOKING AT
10:08:50AM SEVERAL THINGS TO GO THROUGH AND TARGET THE CRA DISTRICTS.
10:08:55AM I DON'T AGREE WITH CRA DISTRICTS IN GENERAL.
10:08:59AM I THINK WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF FOCUSING THE MONEY ON THE
10:09:01AM SAME COMMUNITIES WITHOUT THE RESTRICTIONS OF A CRA.
10:09:04AM WHEN WE GET TO DOWNTOWN, WHICH IS COMING UP IN APRIL, IF WE
10:09:09AM DON'T PUT A CAP ON DOWNTOWN, IT'S GOING TO SEND A CLEAR
10:09:14AM SIGNAL TO THE LEGISLATURE THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO FORCE US TO

10:09:16AM DO IT.
10:09:16AM THE COMMUNITY IS DEMANDING THAT NOT WEST TAMPA, NOT EAST
10:09:19AM TAMPA, BUT AREAS WHERE WE DON'T HAVE SLUM AND BLIGHT
10:09:22AM ANYMORE, THEY ARE DEMANDING THAT WE MOVE THE MONEY.
10:09:24AM IF THE ALTERNATIVE IS RAISING TAXES, THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T
10:09:27AM WANT IT.
10:09:27AM BUT IF YOU SEE THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING MONEY WISELY OR
10:09:30AM EFFECTIVELY IN WEST TAMPA OR ANY OF THE OTHERS, PLEASE LET
10:09:33AM US KNOW.
10:09:34AM THAT GETS TO THE ISSUE OF STAFF.
10:09:36AM IT TOOK US A WHILE TO FIND THE RIGHT STAFF.
10:09:39AM FIVE YEARS AGO, THE CRA WAS STRUCTURED DIFFERENTLY.
10:09:42AM TOOK US FOUR YEARS, UNFORTUNATELY, TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE
10:09:45AM ADMINISTRATION TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE NOW, BUT THE
10:09:47AM ADMINISTRATION BROUGHT IN NICOLE AND ALIS.
10:09:50AM THEY BROUGHT IN ERICA AND ERICA IS, I THINK, EXACTLY WHAT WE
10:09:54AM WANT.
10:09:54AM AS I'VE SAID IN THE PAST, THE CRA FOCUSED ON THE R WHICH IS
10:09:59AM REDEVELOPMENT AND BUILDINGS AND NOW WE'RE FOCUSED ON
10:10:02AM COMMUNITY.
10:10:03AM BEFORE MORRIS SAYS SOMETHING, WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW THE LAW
10:10:06AM ON WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T SPEND MONEY ON.
10:10:08AM THE DIFFERENCE IN HIRING SOMEBODY LIKE ERICA IS WE'RE
10:10:11AM LOOKING AT THE CONNECTIVITY OF THE COMMUNITY NOT JUST THE
10:10:14AM PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE.

10:10:15AM YOU'VE BEEN DOING IT IN WEST TAMPA BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT
10:10:18AM IN ALL OF THEM.
10:10:19AM ONE OF THE REASONS IT TOOK SO LONG TO HIRE ERICA IS ONE OF
10:10:23AM THE REQUIREMENTS THAT HR HAD WAS SHE HAD TO HAVE A
10:10:27AM CREDENTIAL WITH BACKGROUND IN CRA.
10:10:29AM MY ARGUMENT IS THAT WE NEEDED SOMEBODY WHO KNEW ABOUT
10:10:32AM COMMUNITY BUILDING NOT CRAs.
10:10:33AM NOW SHE'S ADDING THAT CREDENTIAL ON HER OWN.
10:10:36AM SO AS WE'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER STAFF, I THINK WE NEED TO BE
10:10:40AM MORE OPEN-MINDED ABOUT HIRING SMART PEOPLE WHO ARE CAPABLE,
10:10:44AM HAVE A WORK ETHIC, WHO ARE FOCUSED ON COMMUNITY, FOCUSED ON
10:10:47AM ACTION AND RESULTS AND REALLY FOCUS ON THE OUTCOME INSTEAD
10:10:51AM OF THE OUTPUT.
10:10:52AM DOING ONE FACADE IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING.
10:10:55AM BUT IF WE HAVE A STRATEGY FOR AN ENTIRE STREET, THAT WILL
10:10:58AM ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING.
10:10:58AM MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE NEED TO KNOW HOW THE PEOPLE INTERACT
10:11:01AM WITH IT.
10:11:02AM I HOPE WE AS A BOARD CAN WORK WITH HR TO GET YOU THE RIGHT
10:11:05AM PEOPLE AND A NEW TEAM BECAUSE I THINK ERICA WITH THE SUPPORT
10:11:11AM OF NICOLE AND ALIS AND JAVIER AND OTHERS DOING A GREAT JOB.
10:11:15AM LAST THING IS, YOU MENTIONED MARKETING A LOGO.
10:11:19AM I KNOW SHE'S WORKING TO FIX THAT ISSUE AS WELL.
10:11:22AM WITH MY DAY JOB I DO A LOT OF PRO BONO WORK.
10:11:25AM IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO.

10:11:27AM >> GIVE US A FREE PRO BONO LOGO FOR WEST TAMPA, IS THAT WHAT
10:11:31AM I HEARD?
10:11:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: ABSOLUTELY WILL GIVE YOU A FREE PRO BONO
10:11:35AM LOGO.
10:11:36AM IF THE CRA CAN'T MOVE FAST ENOUGH OR DON'T HAVE THE MONEY,
10:11:39AM HAPPY TO PAY FOR IT.
10:11:41AM >> WOW.
10:11:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'M DOING THAT IN OTHER AREAS BECAUSE I
10:11:46AM BELIEVE IN COMMUNITY BUILDING.
10:11:48AM IF I CAN HELP WITH MARKETING -- YOU ALL ACTUALLY DO A GREAT
10:11:51AM JOB.
10:11:52AM THE WATER TOWER THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHOSE IDEA IT WAS, BUT
10:11:56AM BRILLIANT THE WAY IT BRANDS WEST TAMPA.
10:11:59AM JUST LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP.
10:12:04AM WE DO NEED TO BETTER COMMUNICATE THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU ALL
10:12:08AM ARE DOING.
10:12:09AM THANK YOU.
10:12:11AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON.
10:12:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. ROBINSON, I WAS SO EXCITED WHEN I SAW
10:12:15AM YOUR NAME ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE OF JESUS PROMOTION FOR WEST
10:12:21AM TAMPA, YOUR PASSION IS SO EVIDENT.
10:12:23AM TAMPA CATHOLIC AND UNIVERSITY OF IOWA STAND UP FOR JOE
10:12:28AM ROBINSON.
10:12:29AM YOU ARE A KAITLYN PARK THREE POINTER TODAY.
10:12:32AM YOU DID YOUR HOME WORK AND I APPRECIATE IT.

10:12:35AM ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO SAY IS GOING BACK TO EVEN THE
10:12:38AM CONVERSATION WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET, THEN YOU
10:12:41AM MENTIONED THE WORD IMPLEMENTATION.
10:12:43AM YOU ARE MENTIONING THAT TODAY.
10:12:45AM I AGREE WITH YOU, THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT THAT WE
10:12:48AM NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MOVE
10:12:52AM PROJECTS FORWARD.
10:12:52AM IT JUST TAKES TOO LONG SOMETIMES AND PEOPLE GET IMPATIENT.
10:12:56AM IMPLEMENTATION IS THE KEY.
10:12:58AM ALSO MARKETING FOR ALL THE CRAs.
10:13:00AM WE KNOW ABOUT SPECIAL YBOR CITY HISTORIC DISTRICT AND
10:13:04AM MARKETING, BUT YOU ARE THE VOICE PIECE THAT STANDS UP IN
10:13:11AM WEST TAMPA.
10:13:11AM WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING DESERVES THAT SAME LEVEL OF
10:13:16AM HIGH-LEVEL MARKETING BECAUSE WEST TAMPA IS A VERY SPECIAL
10:13:19AM PLACE, EVEN GOING BACK TO WHEN TAYLOR MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR
10:13:25AM THE BRIDGE TO BE BUILT TO CREATE THAT COMMUNITY AND BRING IT
10:13:28AM OVER INTO DOWNTOWN.
10:13:29AM THAT IS ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY.
10:13:33AM THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE, BUT I CAN'T READ MY OWN NOTES.
10:13:38AM THAT WAS A STREETCAR COMMENT BY MR. CITRO.
10:13:41AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY AND WE WILL
10:13:43AM MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MEETING.
10:13:46AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CITY COUNCIL.
10:13:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. MOODY.

10:13:48AM I THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT BEFORE LUNCH HOUR.
10:13:56AM WE'RE GOING TO DO IT.
10:13:59AM GOOD MORNING, MS. MOODY.
10:14:03AM >>ERICA MOODY: GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD.
10:14:05AM ERICA MOODY, CRA DIRECTOR.
10:14:07AM WHAT AN AMAZING DIALOGUE.
10:14:08AM THAT'S WHAT COMMUNITY DIALOGUE LOOKS LIKE, OPENING UP A
10:14:11AM CONVERSATION FOR US TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE GROUND
10:14:13AM LEVEL AND HOW WE CONNECT IT TO THE DECISION MAKERS HERE.
10:14:17AM THAT'S WHAT COMMUNITY BUILDING LOOKS LIKE.
10:14:19AM I WANT TO THANK YOU, MR. ROBINSON, FOR BEING A CHAMPION OF
10:14:21AM WEST TAMPA AND ALSO FOR EXTENDING A HAND.
10:14:23AM WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY CLOSELY TOGETHER.
10:14:25AM THE NEXT WEST TAMPA CAC MEETING IS ON TUESDAY, JANUARY
10:14:29AM 23rd.
10:14:30AM I WILL BE THERE TO HELP REPRESENT SOME OF THE BUSINESS.
10:14:32AM WE DID TALK ABOUT SOME STAFFING CHANGES.
10:14:37AM DIRECTOR'S REPORT WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE'RE STABILIZING THE
10:14:40AM AGENCY, SO THESE TYPES OF TRANSITIONS MAKE IT MUCH EASIER.
10:14:43AM RIGHT NOW WE'LL BE MOVING INTO ITEM 16 WE PULLED FROM
10:14:46AM REQUIRED APPROVALS.
10:14:47AM WE WILL APPOINT EAST TAMPA CAC MEMBERS.
10:14:50AM WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR THIS.
10:14:52AM WE HAVE 13 APPLICANTS.
10:14:55AM WE HAVE 13 APPLICANTS.

10:14:58AM 9 OPEN POSITIONS.
10:15:00AM FIVE OF THEM ARE EX OFFICIO NOMINATIONS FROM THE
10:15:02AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
10:15:04AM I WANT TO THANK YOU, MR. McCRAY, FOR GOING IN PERSON TO
10:15:06AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH
10:15:09AM THEM AND HELPING IMPLEMENT THESE POLICY CHANGES OVER TIME.
10:15:13AM WE HAVE FIVE EX OFFICIO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND FOUR
10:15:16AM SEATS FOR AT-LARGE.
10:15:17AM WE'LL HAVE THE VOTE SPLIT IN TWO SEPARATE.
10:15:22AM ONE EX OFFICIO NOMINATIONS AND THEN PASS OUT BALLOTS AND
10:15:27AM VOTE FOR THE AT-LARGE APPLICANT.
10:15:30AM OUR CLERK WILL RECORD THE VOTES AND THEN ANNOUNCE WHO OUR
10:15:33AM NEWEST MEMBERS WILL BE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WELCOMING THEM
10:15:36AM IN FEBRUARY.
10:15:37AM I DO HAVE A MEMO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISTRIBUTE TO THE
10:15:40AM BOARD.
10:15:40AM THERE IS A MEMO THAT IS ON OnBase RIGHT NOW, AND IT HAS
10:15:45AM THE APPLICANTS LISTED BY NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARY.
10:15:48AM I DID RECEIVE SOME FEEDBACK THAT THAT WAS A LITTLE
10:15:51AM CONFUSING, SO I JUST MADE A SLIGHT REVISION TO THE MEMO AND
10:15:55AM I SEPARATED IT, INSTEAD OF NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARY, IT'S NOW
10:15:58AM SEPARATED IN EX OFFICIO AND AT-LARGE JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR.
10:16:02AM SAME EXACT INFORMATION, JUST PRESENTED A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
10:16:05AM IF I MAY JUST GIVE THIS TO OUR ATTORNEY AND REPASS IT OUT TO
10:16:10AM THE GROUP.

10:16:11AM THERE MIGHT BE A FEW EXTRA COPIES.
10:16:30AM AS WE PASS THOSE OUT, WE WILL OPEN UP THE EX OFFICIO VOTE
10:16:34AM AND CONSIDERATION.
10:16:35AM YES, SIR.
10:16:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND BOARD MEMBER
10:16:39AM HURTAK HAVE A QUESTION.
10:16:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, I'M GOOD.
10:16:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE WE GOING TO DO, IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T
10:16:44AM GET 50%, DO WE DO A RUNOFF OR HOW DOES THAT WORK?
10:16:49AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: QUICKLY, THE EX OFFICIO SEAT, A COUPLE OF
10:16:53AM THINGS, UNDER YOUR RULES, ANY CANDIDATE THAT'S HERE FOR
10:16:57AM EX-EX OFFICIO OR SEAT, THEY HAVE UP TO THREE MINUTES TO MAKE
10:17:00AM A PRESENTATION BEFORE THE VOTE IS TAKEN.
10:17:02AM THE EX OFFICIO SEATS, THOSE GROUPS NOMINATE ONE PERSON.
10:17:06AM IT'S UP TO YOU TO EITHER CONFIRM OR NOT CONFIRM THAT PERSON.
10:17:10AM THAT'S REALLY HOW THE EX OFFICIO WOULD WORK.
10:17:15AM THE AT-LARGE WE HAVE FOUR AT-LARGE SEATS, 8 PEOPLE THAT ARE
10:17:19AM ELIGIBLE FOR THE AT-LARGE POSITIONS.
10:17:22AM THERE IS A BALLOT FOR THOSE FOUR SEATS.
10:17:26AM YOU'LL HAVE THE EIGHT NAMES.
10:17:28AM WRITE YOUR NAME ON THE BALLOT AND SELECT FOUR OUT OF THE
10:17:32AM EIGHT AND THEN THE CLERK WILL TABULATE THAT AND ANNOUNCE THE
10:17:36AM VOTE.
10:17:37AM THAT'S HOW THE ELECTION PROCESS.
10:17:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES THE VOTE REQUIRE 50% PLUS ONE OR JUST

10:17:42AM THE MAJORITY?
10:17:45AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
10:17:47AM I THINK WE PROBABLY -- WE TYPICALLY -- YOU TYPICALLY HAVE
10:17:51AM GOTTEN -- NEEDED A MAJORITY VOTE FROM THE CRA BOARD.
10:17:54AM SO WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE MULTIPLE BALLOTS.
10:18:01AM >>ERICA MOODY: I BELIEVE WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY PUBLIC
10:18:04AM COMMENTS THAT THE APPLICANTS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THEIR
10:18:07AM APPLICATIONS.
10:18:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:18:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE JUST SEPARATE THE PUBLIC COMMENT
10:18:12AM ALSO AND THE EX OFFICIO AND THEN VOTE ON THAT.
10:18:15AM AND CAN WE VOTE ON EX OFFICIO ALL AT ONCE AND THEN WE'LL DO
10:18:20AM SEPARATELY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE OTHERS JUST SO WE CAN KEEP
10:18:23AM THEM SEPARATE.
10:18:23AM >>ERICA MOODY: IN THAT CASE, IF YOU ARE EX OFFICIO
10:18:27AM NOMINATION AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP AND DO
10:18:32AM SO.
10:18:36AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING, MS. FOXX-KNOWLES.
10:18:42AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: SO THE EX OFFICIO NOMINATION TO BE CLEAR ON
10:18:45AM THE RECORD, JACKSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE
10:18:49AM NOMINEE IS FRAN TATE, IF SHE IS HERE.
10:18:53AM LEGACY FAIR OAKS COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, ANTOINETTE GAINS.
10:18:57AM RAINBOW HEIGHTS, NOMINEE IS FRANKY JONES.
10:19:01AM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CARLOS DE LA OSSA.
10:19:04AM AND VM YBOR, KIMBERLY HEADLAND.

10:19:08AM THOSE ARE THE EX OFFICIO NOMINEES.
10:19:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT WERE APPOINTED.
10:19:12AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST STAGE OF THIS.
10:19:15AM >> GOOD MORNING AGAIN BOARD MEMBERS.
10:19:16AM CARLOS DE LA OSSA.
10:19:19AM I'M A HOMEOWNER IN SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:19:22AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON MY APPLICATION TO SERVE ON THE EAST
10:19:24AM TAMPA COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE REPRESENTING THE
10:19:27AM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
10:19:28AM BEFORE I GET INTO MY BACKGROUND AND CREDENTIALS, I WANT TO
10:19:32AM EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO BOTH ERICA AND CEDRIC.
10:19:35AM OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, THEY HAVE DEMONSTRATED A
10:19:37AM COMMITMENT TO COMMUNICATE REGARDING ONGOING DEVELOPMENT
10:19:41AM EFFORTS.
10:19:42AM I DEFINITELY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO BOTH OF YOU.
10:19:44AM A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF, I'VE LIVED IN TAMPA FOR EIGHT
10:19:48AM YEARS.
10:19:48AM I'VE RESIDED IN THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
10:19:51AM FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS WHEN I CLOSED ON MY HOME IN MARCH
10:19:54AM OF 2021.
10:19:54AM I THINK WE CAN ALL SAY THAT OVER THE PAST EIGHT YEARS, WE'VE
10:19:58AM SEEN SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN TAMPA BAY.
10:20:01AM THIS GROWTH PRESENTS MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO WORK WITH
10:20:03AM OUR NEIGHBORS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS SO THAT EVERYONE CAN
10:20:06AM BENEFIT FROM THESE CHANGES.

10:20:07AM I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO SERVE AND DO YOUR CIVIC
10:20:12AM DUTY.
10:20:12AM THAT'S WHY I SUBMITTED MY APPLICATION.
10:20:14AM CURRENTLY I'M A MEMBER OF THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
10:20:16AM CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND SERVE ON ITS LAND USE COMMITTEE.
10:20:20AM PROFESSIONALLY, I'VE WORKED IN THE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT
10:20:23AM NATIONAL HOME BUILDING INDUSTRIES FOR THE PAST 16 YEARS.
10:20:26AM I HAVE MULTIPLE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL DESIGNATION YOU
10:20:28AM SEE AND CREDENTIALS ALONG WITH MY LEAD ACCREDITATION FROM
10:20:32AM THE UNITED STATES GREEN BUILDING COUNCIL.
10:20:33AM I BELIEVE THAT MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE WILL LEND ITSELF
10:20:36AM TO THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY.
10:20:37AM MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE COMMUNITY.
10:20:39AM IN CONCLUSION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING.
10:20:41AM I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
10:20:42AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:20:45AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:20:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE
10:20:49AM NOMINATIONS?
10:20:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR ALL OF THEM.
10:20:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR THE FIVE EX OFFICIO.
10:21:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD
10:21:04AM MEMBER CARLSON TO ACCEPT ALL THE EX OFFICIO NOMINATIONS,
10:21:07AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:21:09AM ANY DISCUSSION?

10:21:10AM ANY DISCUSSION ON ANY CANDIDATE?
10:21:12AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:21:13AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:21:14AM MOTION CARRIES FOR THE EX OFFICIO APPLICANTS.
10:21:19AM NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY ADVISORY
10:21:28AM COMMITTEE, RIGHT?
10:21:29AM GOOD MORNING.
10:21:33AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:21:34AM JUST FINE.
10:21:35AM THANK YOU.
10:21:35AM GOOD MORNING, BOARD MEMBERS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
10:21:39AM SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES CITY CLERK.
10:21:41AM I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE THE APPLICANTS VYING TO SERVE ON THE
10:21:45AM EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
10:21:48AM I WILL INTRODUCE EACH OF THEM.
10:21:53AM DOMINIQUE COBB.
10:21:58AM EBONY DECOSTA.
10:22:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU, EVERYONE.
10:22:09AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: DID YOU WANT TO PRESENT?
10:22:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
10:22:20AM WON'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.
10:22:23AM EBONY DECOSTA, I AM A TAMPA NATIVE AND CRA ADVISORY
10:22:27AM COMMITTEE APPLICANT.
10:22:28AM I JUST WANT TO TAKE MY TIME TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE YOUR
10:22:31AM TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I'M EAGER TO VOICE MY

10:22:34AM OPINION AND SERVICE MY COMMUNITY.
10:22:41AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.
10:22:42AM NEXT IS CRAIG FOX.
10:22:50AM >> GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD.
10:22:51AM IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
10:22:53AM DEFINITELY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
10:22:54AM I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO SERVE MY COMMUNITY IN
10:22:58AM DIFFERENT CAPACITIES.
10:22:58AM I WAS HERE WORKING ON BEHALF OF D.O.T.
10:23:06AM IN THIS CAPACITY, ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF PUBLIC SERVICE,
10:23:10AM WORKING FOR D.O.T., YOU GET TO SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT
10:23:13AM NEIGHBORHOODS FROM ALL OVER OUR GREAT STATE.
10:23:15AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE GAINED AN APPRECIATION FOR
10:23:20AM REALLY THE EXECUTION OF PUBLIC FUNDS TO SERVE THE BENEFIT OF
10:23:22AM THE COMMUNITY.
10:23:23AM DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO SERVE MY
10:23:26AM COMMUNITY IN THIS ASPECT.
10:23:30AM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE.
10:23:32AM THANK YOU.
10:23:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:23:39AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THE NEXT PERSON IS AILEEN HENDERSON.
10:23:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:23:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
10:23:52AM >> I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW ME WITH THE CEMETERY SOCIETY,
10:23:56AM THE OWNER AND FOUNDER, BUT WHAT MOST OF YOU DON'T KNOW IS

10:23:59AM I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF FRIENDS OF HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS
10:24:04AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, THE HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS
10:24:07AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE WEST CENTRAL REGION
10:24:10AM ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT MEETS AT LEE DAVIS.
10:24:14AM THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING FOR ME BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO MAKE
10:24:18AM SURE THAT WE TAKE CARE OF EAST TAMPA.
10:24:21AM I AM A FIFTH GENERATION HERE IN TAMPA.
10:24:23AM WHILE I MAY NOT LIVE IN EAST TAMPA, AND I THINK IT'S
10:24:27AM IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW THAT IN TERMS OF TRANSPARENCY, I DO
10:24:29AM HAVE A VESTED INTEREST.
10:24:32AM PART OF THE INTEREST CAME WHEN I HELPED TO SAVE MEMORIAL
10:24:35AM PARK CEMETERY, WHICH COUNCIL GRACIOUSLY VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO
10:24:40AM PURCHASE IT.
10:24:41AM I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER ME FOR THIS
10:24:44AM POSITION.
10:24:44AM I THINK THAT I DO HAVE MY EAR TO THE GROUND WHEN IT COMES TO
10:24:49AM THE COMMUNITY.
10:24:50AM IT'S JUST SOMETHING I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO.
10:24:53AM THANK YOU.
10:25:01AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU.
10:25:02AM NEXT IS ZALINDA KAHN.
10:25:11AM THE NEXT PERSON IS EVA McCALISTER.
10:25:16AM NEXT IS JILL TRUMAN.
10:25:25AM NEXT IS DIANE ZIEGLER.
10:25:42AM >> HELLO TODAY.

10:25:44AM NICE TO SEE EVERYONE.
10:25:45AM MY NAME IS DIANE ZIEGLER.
10:25:46AM I LIVE IN EAST TAMPA.
10:25:48AM I'VE BEEN EXPLORING AND LIVING IN EAST TAMPA FOR ABOUT FIVE
10:25:51AM YEARS NOW.
10:25:53AM WHAT I REALLY LOVE ABOUT EAST TAMPA IS THE QUIRKY NATURE OF
10:25:58AM IT.
10:25:58AM I FEEL IT IS PART COUNTRY, PART BIG CITY.
10:26:01AM THE PEOPLE ARE SO GENEROUS AND PART OF THAT HAS REALLY
10:26:06AM HELPED ME TO WANT TO GIVE MORE BACK TO MY COMMUNITY.
10:26:10AM A NEIGHBOR CAME BY, CAME AND SAID, I ALWAYS SEE YOU WORKING
10:26:14AM AT THE POND AND YOU OUGHT TO GET INVOLVED AND FROM THERE
10:26:20AM THAT LED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WALKS WITH PETE, LED TO THE --
10:26:27AM I WAS HOOKED.
10:26:27AM I WENT TO THE MEETINGS, PARTNERSHIP MEETINGS, SUBCOMMITTEE
10:26:30AM MEETINGS AS WELL.
10:26:31AM I FEEL THAT I'M QUALIFIED TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE.
10:26:36AM I HAVE A LOT OF BACKGROUND.
10:26:37AM MY PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE IS 30 YEARS WORKING IN BOTH I.T.
10:26:42AM AND SOFTWARE ENGINEERING.
10:26:44AM I WORKED IN HAD BOSTON FOR THE LARGEST OUTPATIENT HEALTH
10:26:48AM CARE CENTER.
10:26:49AM I ALSO WORKED IN NEW YORK FOR A MANUFACTURING CORPORATION
10:26:54AM THAT CREATED ROBOTS.
10:27:00AM WITHOUT GOING INTO MY BACKGROUND OF MY TECHNICAL EXPERIENCE,

10:27:08AM MY COMMON THEME THROUGH MY JOB WAS TO LISTEN TO MY
10:27:12AM COLLEAGUES, TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR PROBLEMS WERE AND
10:27:14AM COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS THAT WOULD FIT THAT SITUATION.
10:27:19AM AND I THINK IN SPITE OF MY PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND, I ALSO
10:27:23AM HAVE A LOT OF TRAVEL EXPERIENCE.
10:27:25AM I HAVE A LOT OF LIFE EXPERIENCE, AND I THINK THAT GIVES ME A
10:27:28AM BIGGER WORLD VIEW AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THAT WORLD VIEW
10:27:32AM TO EAST TAMPA AND HELP TO SEE IT BLOSSOM.
10:27:37AM THANK YOU TODAY.
10:27:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:27:44AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO ALL THE
10:27:46AM APPLICANTS.
10:27:47AM BOARD MEMBERS, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE BALLOTS AND YOU WILL VOTE
10:27:51AM FOR FOUR.
10:27:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
10:28:19AM WE WILL KEEP MOVING ON.
10:28:20AM DIRECTOR'S REPORT MAY CONTINUE.
10:28:39AM >>ERICA MOODY: GREAT.
10:28:40AM CALLING OUT TO I.T. IF THEY HAVE THE DIRECTOR'S UPDATE
10:28:44AM PRESENTATION, NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO DISPLAY IT.
10:28:56AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ALL THE BALLOTS ARE PUBLIC RECORDS AND
10:28:58AM MAINTAINED BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:29:00AM THE CLERK WILL HAVE TO ANNOUNCE WHO YOU VOTED FOR AFTER THE
10:29:05AM VOTES ARE TALLIED.
10:29:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. CLENDENIN IS STILL WORKING ON HIS.

10:29:17AM >>ERICA MOODY: GETTING ORGANIZED.
10:29:18AM FANTASTIC.
10:29:27AM CRA BOARD, ARE WE READY FOR THE DIRECTOR'S UPDATE?
10:29:34AM I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.
10:29:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHILE WE'RE SORT OF WAITING, I DO WANT TO SAY
10:29:46AM THAT I LOVE THIS PROCESS, BUT MAYBE WHEN FOLKS COME UP TO
10:29:53AM TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND WOULD
10:29:58AM BE HELPFUL.
10:29:59AM >>ERICA MOODY: WE CAN CREATE A STANDARD TEMPLATE OF THE KEY
10:30:02AM POINTS THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED.
10:30:03AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE BIOS OF EACH OF THE APPLICANTS INCLUDED
10:30:06AM OR JUST THEIR APPLICATION --
10:30:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST THEIR APPLICATION, BUT IT'S NOT VERY
10:30:11AM CLEAR.
10:30:11AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: DETAILED ABOUT WHAT THEIR BACKGROUND IS.
10:30:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S NOT VERY CLEAR BECAUSE THEY DON'T ASK
10:30:16AM THOSE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
10:30:17AM THEY JUST ASK WHY YOU WANT TO BE ON THE BOARD.
10:30:20AM JUST IN MY HEAD BECAUSE MR. ROBINSON HAD SPOKEN ABOUT THE
10:30:24AM QUALIFICATIONS THAT COULD HELP AND THAT WAS INTERESTING.
10:30:31AM >>ERICA MOODY: YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
10:30:32AM THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK.
10:30:35AM WE PUT IT IN THE POLICY, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY DEVELOP A
10:30:41AM TEMPLATE FOR THAT AS WELL.
10:30:42AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS OFF-LINE, BUT WE

10:30:45AM NEED TO REFINE THE APPLICATIONS A LITTLE BIT.
10:30:48AM >>ERICA MOODY: HAPPY TO DO SO.
10:30:50AM ERICA MOODY, CRA DIRECTOR, FOR THE RECORD.
10:30:52AM HERE TO PROVIDE A DIRECTOR'S UPDATE.
10:30:55AM I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT LOOKS BACK AT THE LAST SIX
10:30:57AM MONTHS.
10:30:58AM DURING THE HOLIDAYS IT'S A TIME OF REFLECTION LOOKING BACK
10:31:02AM AND ALWAYS PEDAL TO THE METAL PUSHING FORWARD.
10:31:05AM WE REALIZE WE HIT A LOT OF MILESTONES AND BENCHMARKS WE SET
10:31:09AM OUT TO DO.
10:31:10AM I WANT TO REVIEW SOME QUICKLY AND LET YOU KNOW THE DIRECTION
10:31:15AM WE'RE HEADING FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS AS WELL.
10:31:19AM LOOKING BACK, I JOINED AS THE NEW CRA DIRECTOR, FIRST DAY
10:31:24AM MAY 30th, THE LAST DAY OF MAY.
10:31:27AM I QUICKLY JUMPED INTO THE CRA BOARD RETREAT WHICH WAS IN THE
10:31:30AM FIRST OR SECOND WEEK OF JUNE.
10:31:32AM GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE WHERE I GOT TO KNOW THE PRIORITIES
10:31:35AM OF YOU AS THE NEW BOARD.
10:31:36AM WE HAD SOME NEW BOARD MEMBERS JOIN US AND JUST A GREAT TIME
10:31:40AM TO FOCUS IN AND HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON KEY PRIORITIES THAT
10:31:43AM YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME FORWARD.
10:31:45AM THE BOARD RETREAT WAS IN JUNE AND THEN WE ALSO, THE
10:31:48AM SUBSEQUENT WEEK WE HAD A BUDGET AFFORDABLE HOUSING WORKSHOP
10:31:53AM WITH EACH CAC TO SEE HOW WE COULD SPEND THE 30% ALLOCATION.
10:31:57AM SO REALLY WORKING THROUGH THE HOUSING STRATEGY.

10:31:59AM THE CAC FEEDBACK HAS BEEN DELIVERED TO AND INCORPORATED IN
10:32:02AM THE OVERALL HOUSING ROAD MAP AND WE ARE A PARTNER IN THE
10:32:05AM COLLABORATION THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD FOR THE SPECIAL
10:32:08AM WORKSHOP ON FEBRUARY 29.
10:32:09AM SO REALLY HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON, WE SET ASIDE THE 30%, BUT
10:32:14AM HOW ARE WE GOING TO IMPLEMENT IT IN CREATING A STRATEGY TO
10:32:17AM DO SO.
10:32:17AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO COLLABORATE ON THAT AND
10:32:20AM ROLL THAT OUT TO YOU NEXT MONTH.
10:32:22AM WE UPDATED OUR MISSION, VISION, AND OBJECTIVES FOR THE CRA.
10:32:25AM AND THIS HAPPENED IN ABOUT AUGUST OF 2023.
10:32:29AM I JUST WANT TO GIVE IT THE CREDIT THAT IS DUE BECAUSE THIS
10:32:34AM HELPED US ALIGN AND CREATE A FOCUS TO WHERE WE CAN BENCHMARK
10:32:37AM PROJECTS, IDEAS, AND THINGS THAT COME OUR WAY AND MAKE SURE
10:32:41AM THAT THEY ARE IN LINE WITH THE BOARD'S PRIORITIES.
10:32:43AM SO WE HAVE THOSE FIVE OBJECTIVES THAT WE NOW ARE HOLDING
10:32:47AM OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO AND ALL OF IT IS WORKING ITS WAY TO
10:32:51AM KEY PERFORMANCE INDICATORS.
10:32:53AM WE ARE ALSO DOING CAC POLICY AND CRA BYLAWS REFORM.
10:32:56AM THOSE REVISIONS HAPPENED IN SEPTEMBER, AND WE'VE BEEN
10:32:59AM WORKING REALLY CLOSELY WITH YCDC AND THE EAST TAMPA
10:33:03AM PARTNERSHIP TO SEE WHAT THIS TRANSITION LOOKS LIKE AND
10:33:06AM SUPPORT THEM FOR THEIR ONGOING SUSTAINABILITY.
10:33:09AM THEN WE'VE BEEN KNEE-DEEP IN A GRANT AUDIT.
10:33:12AM AS I MENTIONED, WE HAD 18 DIFFERENT GRANTS ACROSS 8

10:33:15AM DIFFERENT DISTRICTS WHICH ESSENTIALLY WAS 8 ORGANIZATIONS
10:33:18AM OPERATING INDEPENDENTLY.
10:33:20AM SO PART OF THAT HAS BEEN STREAMLINING PROCESSES, PROCEDURES,
10:33:24AM AND ALSO LOOKING WHERE WE HAVE LIKE DUPLICATION AND WORK AND
10:33:27AM WE CAN COMBINE THEM INTO ONE GRANT DELIVERABLE, AND WE ARE
10:33:31AM MAKING GREAT PROGRESS.
10:33:33AM WE'RE FINALIZING THE GRANT AUDIT AND ASSESSMENT NOW AND WE
10:33:37AM PLAN TO COME TO THE CACs IN FEBRUARY OF NEXT MONTH TO GET
10:33:41AM THEIR FEEDBACK, PRESENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAKE SURE
10:33:43AM IT'S INCORPORATED AS WE BRING IT TO THE BOARD ON MARCH
10:33:47AM 21st.
10:33:48AM JUST WANT TO BUILD THAT UP AND GET EVERYONE EXCITED.
10:33:51AM MARCH WILL BE A GREAT BOARD MEETING.
10:33:52AM JUST REALLY TRYING TO BUILD COLLABORATION AND IMPACT.
10:33:55AM THE WAY THAT YOU BUILD TRUST WITH A COMMUNITY IS BY BEING
10:33:58AM THERE.
10:33:59AM SO I HAVE BEEN JUST DEDICATED TO ATTENDING COMMUNITY EVENTS,
10:34:02AM COMMUNITY WORKSHOPS, THE CAC MEETINGS, MEETING WITH PEOPLE
10:34:07AM INDIVIDUALLY AND GETTING TO KNOW THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS,
10:34:09AM PRIORITIES, PASSIONS AND HOW WE CAN ALIGN IT WITH THE CRA,
10:34:13AM AS WELL AS KEEPING THE CRA REALLY FOCUSED ON IMPLEMENTING
10:34:15AM THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
10:34:16AM I REALIZE WHEN WE HOLD A CITY MEETING, A CRA MEETING, WE GET
10:34:22AM ASKED A LOT OF CITY QUESTIONS.
10:34:23AM SO MAKING SURE THOSE QUESTIONS ARE PLACED IN THE RIGHT

10:34:26AM DEPARTMENT AND WE STAY FOCUSED AND ALIGNED ON THE WORK THAT
10:34:29AM THE CRA IS MISSIONED TO DO.
10:34:31AM SO JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT
10:34:33AM WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND JUST WANTED TO THANK
10:34:36AM YOU ALL FOR YOUR DECISIONS AND SUPPORT IN CARRYING THIS
10:34:41AM FORWARD.
10:34:42AM AS BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN SAID, ALL OF THESE TRANSITIONS ARE
10:34:46AM REALLY SETTING THE FOUNDATION FOR LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY
10:34:49AM AND SUCCESS, SO THESE COMMUNITIES CAN THRIVE THROUGH THE CRA
10:34:52AM AND ALSO WITHOUT THE CRA.
10:34:53AM SO THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL.
10:34:55AM IN LOOKING AHEAD, WE DID TALK ABOUT RELOCATION PLANNING.
10:35:00AM MR. ROBINSON BROUGHT THAT UP IN HIS REPORT, AND HE IS
10:35:03AM CORRECT.
10:35:04AM THAT'S ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PAIN POINTS IS HAVING OUR STAFF
10:35:07AM SEPARATED INTO THREE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND ALSO TRYING TO
10:35:10AM STREAMLINE COMMUNICATIONS AND EFFECTIVENESS AT THE SAME
10:35:12AM TIME.
10:35:13AM SO WE HAVE LOOKED AT SEVERAL, SEVERAL BUILDINGS -- YES.
10:35:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANKS.
10:35:20AM GO AHEAD.
10:35:22AM >>ERICA MOODY: NO WORRIES AT ALL.
10:35:23AM YES, WE NEED TO MOVE ALL OF OUR STAFF UNDER ONE ROOF SO WE
10:35:26AM CAN WORK EFFECTIVELY TOGETHER.
10:35:28AM PART OF THAT IS WE'VE BEEN ON THE SEARCH FOR THE LAST FOUR

10:35:31AM MONTHS FOR A BUILDING.
10:35:32AM WE WANTED IT TO BE BIG ENOUGH TO FIT OUR STAFF.
10:35:35AM WE WANTED IT TO BE CENTRALLY LOCATED IN A CRA DISTRICT AND
10:35:38AM REALLY BE AMONGST THE COMMUNITY.
10:35:40AM WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT, BUT RENT HAS BEEN SO INCREDIBLY HIGH
10:35:44AM AND THIS IS A PRIORITY RIGHT NOW.
10:35:47AM WE ARE LOOKING AT -- RIGHT NOW ONE OF OUR LOCATIONS IS THE
10:35:51AM TAMPA MUNICIPAL OFFICE.
10:35:53AM AND WE OCCUPY THE SECOND FLOOR.
10:35:55AM THAT'S OUR MAIN ADDRESS IS THE 306 EAST KENNEDY -- OR EAST
10:35:58AM JACKSON STREET.
10:36:00AM AND THE SECOND WING OF THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE MUNICIPAL
10:36:03AM BUILDING HAS OPENED UP BECAUSE PURCHASING MOVED TO THE HANNA
10:36:06AM CITY CENTER.
10:36:07AM SO WE HAVE JUST WIDE-OPEN SPACE JUST SITTING THERE AND
10:36:11AM FACILITIES HAS OFFERED TO ALLOW US TO MOVE IN THERE UNTIL WE
10:36:15AM CAN FIND A PERMANENT SPACE IN THE COMMUNITY WHICH COULD
10:36:18AM POTENTIALLY BE A CRA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
10:36:20AM I WOULD LIKE TO WORK TOWARD THAT LONG-TERM GOAL, BUT RIGHT
10:36:22AM NOW GETTING EVERYONE UNDER THE SAME ROOF IS OUR NUMBER ONE
10:36:25AM PRIORITY.
10:36:26AM SO WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT SOON AND WORKING THE OFFICE
10:36:31AM DESIGN LAYOUTS, ORDERING THE FURNITURE AND WE EXPECT
10:36:34AM EVERYONE TO BE MOVED LATE APRIL OR MAY.
10:36:36AM SO THAT'S A BIG UPDATE THERE, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES GOING

10:36:39AM THROUGH ALL OF OUR FILES, ARCHIVING, CLEANING UP THE OFFICES
10:36:43AM WE'VE OCCUPIED FOR SEVERAL YEARS, WHICH IS A TASK AS WELL.
10:36:47AM CAPACITY BUILDING, WE'VE BEEN HIRING.
10:36:49AM WE'VE BEEN TRAINING.
10:36:50AM WE'VE BEEN ASSISTING STAFF WITH PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND
10:36:55AM GROWTH.
10:36:55AM TALKED ABOUT CRA MANAGERS AND IF THEY DO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER
10:36:59AM OPPORTUNITY.
10:36:59AM THE STRUCTURE THAT WE ARE ESTABLISHING NOW HELPS THE
10:37:02AM CONTINUUM OF OPERATIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE A FULLY OPERATING
10:37:06AM PROJECT TEAM, FULLY OPERATING GRANTS TEAM.
10:37:09AM FULLY OPERATING HOUSING TEAM AND FULLY OPERATING
10:37:12AM ADMINISTRATION TEAM.
10:37:14AM WITH THAT, IF SOMEONE DECIDES TO TAKE ON ANOTHER
10:37:18AM OPPORTUNITY, WE HAVE THESE DEPARTMENTS THAT CAN PICK UP THE
10:37:20AM WORK AND CARRY IT ON.
10:37:22AM I WILL BE STEPPING IN TO HELP COVER SOME OF THE NEEDS FOR
10:37:25AM WEST TAMPA AND DREW PARK AS WE LOOK FOR TALENTED CRA MANAGER
10:37:28AM TO COME AND TAKE IT OVER, BUT THE PROJECTS ARE STILL RUNNING
10:37:31AM WITHOUT SKIPPING A BEAT.
10:37:33AM GRANTS ARE ADMINISTERED WITHOUT SKIPPING A BEAT AND I WILL
10:37:36AM CONTINUE TO SERVE AS COMMUNITY LIAISON UNTIL WE FIND A NEW
10:37:39AM FACILITATOR TO DO SO.
10:37:40AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND GRACE BECAUSE WE ARE
10:37:44AM COVERING A LOT OF GROUND IN MAKING THESE CHANGES AS WE

10:37:47AM CONTINUE REGULAR BUSINESS.
10:37:48AM IT IS QUITE THE FEAT AND WE ARE WORKING DAY, NIGHT, 12 HOUR
10:37:52AM DAYS AND I WANT TO THANK OUR TEAM.
10:37:54AM WE HAVE OUR CRA MANAGERS HERE, BUT DEFINITELY WANT TO THANK
10:37:57AM OUR PROJECT MANAGER MELISSA MARTINEZ, OUR GRANT MANAGER DEE
10:38:00AM REED AND OUR ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM.
10:38:05AM THEY HAVE BEEN SUPER ROCK STARS IN MAKING SURE WE CAN KEEP
10:38:08AM GOING.
10:38:09AM AND THEN HAPPY NEW YEAR.
10:38:11AM WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS YEAR.
10:38:15AM WANT TO CHANNEL THE ENERGY OF INSPIRATION AND MOMENTUM WITH
10:38:17AM WHAT WE'VE CREATED AND REALLY COMMUNITY BUILD.
10:38:20AM WE'RE EXCITED THAT WE HAVE THE CACs FULLY FORMED NOW UNDER
10:38:24AM THE NEW EX OFFICIOS AND AT-LARGES AND REALLY JUST LOOKING TO
10:38:28AM BUILD UP THIS MOMENTUM.
10:38:30AM WE WILL BE HOSTING A CAC 101 TRAINING, WHICH IS VERY
10:38:33AM COMPREHENSIVE.
10:38:34AM I SAW THE SLIDES, AND IT IS LOOKING LIKE THERE WILL BE TWO
10:38:38AM DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES AND REALLY LEARNING LIKE WHAT IS THE
10:38:41AM CRA?
10:38:41AM WHAT DO WE DO?
10:38:42AM AND WHY DO WE DO IT AND REALLY CHANNELING THAT WHY TO DRIVE
10:38:47AM US FORWARD EVERY DAY.
10:38:48AM THAT'S MY BRIEF UPDATE.
10:38:50AM I HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS TO DISCUSS BEFORE

10:38:53AM MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, IF I COULD DO SO QUICKLY.
10:38:57AM ONE OF THEM IS, I WANTED TO BRING AWARENESS IN THE CITY
10:39:01AM COUNCIL AGENDA ON JANUARY 25th YOU WILL SEE A MEMO FROM ME
10:39:05AM DIRECTING OUR FISCAL ANALYST TO REALLOCATE THE INTEREST
10:39:08AM EARNED FROM OUR BUDGET BACK INTO THE BUDGET.
10:39:11AM SO WE JUST HAVE INTEREST THAT HAS ACCUMULATED AND WE WOULD
10:39:14AM LIKE TO REALLOCATE IT BACK TO THE LINE ITEMS IN THE BUDGET
10:39:18AM SO WE CAN SPEND THE MONEY.
10:39:19AM WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT AS COUNCIL
10:39:23AM ON JANUARY 25th, AS DIRECTED BY ME.
10:39:25AM THEN ALSO, I WILL PASS OUT THE CAC CALENDARS.
10:39:31AM WE HAVE THE 2024 CAC CALENDAR AND WOULD LIKE EACH BOARD
10:39:35AM MEMBER HAVE THEM.
10:39:36AM PUBLIC MEETINGS OPEN TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
10:39:38AM WE DO HAVE THE ADVISORY BOARD THAT CONDUCTS THE BUSINESS BUT
10:39:40AM THE ITEMS AND AGENDA AND MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:39:44AM AND IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO ENGAGE IN THAT, GIVES ME A
10:39:46AM HEADS-UP BEFORE YOU DO SO.
10:39:48AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE DO HAVE A SPECIFIC POLICY ABOUT CRA
10:39:51AM BOARD MEMBERS ATTENDING CAC MEETINGS.
10:39:54AM THE ISSUE IS, IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE OF YOU THERE, THEN WE
10:39:59AM POTENTIALLY HAVE SUNSHINE ISSUES.
10:40:01AM WE TRY TO LIMIT IT TO ONE AND TRY TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE
10:40:05AM MULTIPLE PEOPLE SHOW UP AT THE SAME MEETING.
10:40:09AM >>ERICA MOODY: GREAT.

10:40:10AM THE MEETINGS ARE VIRTUAL AS WELL IF YOU WANTED TO TUNE IN
10:40:13AM VIRTUALLY, TOO.
10:40:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND THEN BOARD MEMBER
10:40:17AM CARLSON.
10:40:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: [INAUDIBLE]
10:40:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL RIGHT.
10:40:22AM YOU'RE READY.
10:40:25AM CLERK FOXX-KNOWLES.
10:40:28AM I MEANT TO SAY CELEBRATION BOWL CHAMPION FOXX-KNOWLES.
10:40:40AM SOME PEOPLE KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
10:40:43AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
10:40:46AM BOARD MEMBERS, I HAVE THE VOTE, AND I WILL SAY THE FOUR
10:40:55AM PEOPLE ELECTED ARE EBONY DECOSTA, CRAIG FOX, AILEEN
10:41:06AM HENDERSON, AND DIANE ZIEGLER.
10:41:10AM AS FAR AS THE VOTE IS CONCERNED, DOMINIQUE RECEIVED ONE VOTE
10:41:20AM FROM CLENDENIN.
10:41:23AM EBONY RECEIVED SIX VOTES FROM CARLSON, CLENDENIN,
10:41:29AM MANISCALCO, VIERA, MIRANDA, AND HENDERSON.
10:41:33AM CRAIG FOX RECEIVED SEVEN VOTES FROM ALL OF THE BOARD
10:41:40AM MEMBERS.
10:41:41AM AILEEN HENDERSON RECEIVED SIX VOTES FROM CARLSON, HURTAK,
10:41:52AM MANISCALCO, VIERA, MIRANDA, AND HENDERSON.
10:41:57AM EVA McCALISTER RECEIVED ONE VOTE FROM HURTAK.
10:42:05AM AND DIANE ZIEGLER RECEIVED SEVEN VOTES FROM ALL OF THE BOARD
10:42:12AM MEMBERS.

10:42:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:42:14AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON OR HURTAK WAS FIRST.
10:42:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:42:25AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS UPDATE.
10:42:28AM FIRST OF ALL, REALLY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE
10:42:31AM ABLE TO TALK ABOUT HOUSING FROM THE CRA PERSPECTIVE AND THE
10:42:35AM CITY'S PERSPECTIVE ON THE 29th.
10:42:38AM THAT IS ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL NEWS.
10:42:41AM I'M REALLY GLAD TO HEAR THAT.
10:42:43AM I ALSO WOULD LOVE THE CRA AND YOUR ABILITY TO TRANSMIT THAT
10:42:49AM INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY THE CRA DISTRICTS TO
10:42:52AM LET THEM KNOW WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT ON A TIME THAT IS
10:42:55AM NOT A CRA AGENDA.
10:42:57AM SO USING WHATEVER METHODS YOU HAVE TO GET THAT OUT TO THE
10:43:00AM PUBLIC, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE.
10:43:04AM I REALLY WANTED TO LET MY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS KNOW, I SPENT
10:43:10AM FOUR AND A HALF, FIVE HOURS WITH DIRECTOR MOODY ON FRIDAY AT
10:43:14AM THE UNIVERSITY AREA CDC WHERE SHE HAS WORKED PRIOR.
10:43:20AM IT'S AMAZING.
10:43:21AM IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE TO SEE THE WORK THEY ARE DOING
10:43:23AM IN TERMS OF ALL THE STUFF THAT WE WANT TO DO IN THE CRA,
10:43:27AM IT'S HOUSING.
10:43:28AM IT'S COMMUNITY BUILDING.
10:43:30AM IT'S EVEN FOOD DISTRIBUTION AND COMMUNITY GARDEN.
10:43:35AM IT'S TRULY EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT --

10:43:38AM >> AND THE ARTS.
10:43:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THE ARTS.
10:43:40AM ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING.
10:43:40AM ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS I GOT THAT MS. MOODY SAID THAT SHE
10:43:43AM WANTS TO DEVELOP FOR THE CRA IS BASICALLY JUST A LITTLE ROAD
10:43:48AM MAP UPDATE WITH ALL THESE NUMBERS OF ALL THE DIFFERENT
10:43:51AM THINGS THAT THE CDC DOES.
10:43:55AM I BELIEVE THIS IS QUARTERLY.
10:43:57AM BUT IT'S HOUSING.
10:43:58AM IT'S PROGRAMS.
10:44:00AM IT'S THE PEOPLE THEY ARE TOUCHING.
10:44:02AM IT IS THE INVESTMENT.
10:44:03AM IT'S NUMBERS.
10:44:04AM IT'S PROPERTY.
10:44:08AM I HATE TO BUSY THE UNIVERSITY AREA CDC BUT I REALLY BELIEVE
10:44:15AM IF YOU HAVE THE INTEREST THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU SHOULD
10:44:18AM GO ON THAT TOUR OR MAYBE EVEN FINDING A WAY TO GET THE
10:44:22AM CACs OUT THERE.
10:44:24AM FIRST OF ALL, THEY ARE -- IT'S IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW, BUT
10:44:28AM ACTUALLY THEY ARE EXPANDING DOWN INTO THE CITY.
10:44:30AM SO WE ARE GOING TO GET A CHANCE.
10:44:33AM BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING INTO THE CITY, YOU ALL SHOULD TAKE A
10:44:35AM LOOK AT SEE WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO.
10:44:38AM I WAS BLOWN AWAY.
10:44:40AM I STILL HAVEN'T EVEN ABSORBED IT ALL.

10:44:42AM BUT THEY ARE REALLY DOING THE WORK AND THEY ARE DOING IT
10:44:46AM REALLY AFFORDABLY.
10:44:48AM THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY ARE SPENDING AND THE PARTNERSHIPS
10:44:50AM THEY ARE CREATING ARE REALLY -- WE SHOULD REALLY BE LOOKING
10:44:55AM AT IT AS A MODEL.
10:44:57AM AND MS. MOODY HAD TALKED ABOUT IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN WITH
10:45:00AM ME.
10:45:00AM SHEA FINALLY GOT ME OUT THERE AND I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH IT.
10:45:04AM I HIGHLY RECOMMEND EVERYONE MAKE THAT TIME AND GIVE IT FOUR
10:45:10AM HOURS.
10:45:10AM IT TOOK THAT LONG TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING AND IT WAS
10:45:13AM REALLY, REALLY IMPRESSIVE TALKING.
10:45:15AM WE EVEN GOT TO TOUR AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
10:45:18AM IT WAS PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS THE CRA
10:45:20AM AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
10:45:22AM AGAIN, THANK YOU TO BOTH MS. TRAVIS AND MR. DRUMGO FOR
10:45:28AM FINDING YOU AND BRINGING YOU IN.
10:45:30AM IT TRULY IS A PERFECT MATCH.
10:45:32AM THANK YOU.
10:45:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:45:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ECHO THAT.
10:45:38AM I THINK SARAH COMBS, I THINK DR. SARAH COMBS IS ONE OF THE
10:45:42AM BRILLIANT, CREATIVE, DEDICATED LEADERS WE HAVE IN OUR
10:45:46AM COMMUNITY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S JUST OUTSIDE OUR BORDER RIGHT
10:45:49AM NOW.

10:45:50AM WHEN WE WERE INTERVIEWING MS. MOODY, KNOWING SHE HAD SARAH'S
10:45:55AM BLESSING AND THAT SHE HAD WORKED ON ALL OF THAT MADE ME KNOW
10:45:59AM RIGHT AWAY THAT SHE KNEW ABOUT COMMUNITY BUILDING, WHAT YOU
10:46:02AM JUST SHOWED ON THE SHEET IS NOT THE EDIFICE COMPLEX THAT
10:46:08AM RUNNING ON BEFORE, IT'S ABOUT COMMUNITY.
10:46:12AM I DON'T KNOW IF HE IS STILL THERE, BUT A GENTLEMAN STANDING
10:46:15AM IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER --
10:46:17AM >> YES, I MET HIM.
10:46:18AM YES, ROSS IS STILL THERE, THE UNOFFICIAL MAYOR.
10:46:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HE REQUESTED I WANT TO SAY AT LEAST A DOZEN
10:46:25AM TIMES THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE PEOPLE FROM THE
10:46:28AM UNIVERSITY AREA CAC.
10:46:28AM HE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR.
10:46:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: HE STANDS OUT THERE AND IF HE SEES TEENAGERS
10:46:33AM OR KIDS ACTING UP, HE SCOLDS THEM.
10:46:36AM I THINK HE IS A COACH.
10:46:39AM IT SHOWS IT'S ABOUT COMMUNITY BUILDING.
10:46:41AM FINDING PEOPLE LIKE THAT, GETTING THEM TO VOLUNTEER, THE
10:46:44AM PRIDE OF THAT, THE DEPTHS THAT THEY WENT TO TO UNDERSTAND
10:46:49AM THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FROM THE PART OF MEXICO THAT PEOPLE
10:46:52AM ARE FROM AND TO UNDERSTAND THE CULTURE TO WORK WITH FOLKS,
10:46:55AM AND YOU'RE BRINGING THAT SAME EXPERTISE HERE WHICH I
10:46:58AM APPRECIATE.
10:46:59AM AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY.
10:47:02AM I THINK GOING BACK TO YOUR REPORT ON THE FIRST SIX MONTHS,

10:47:05AM IT'S PHENOMENAL.
10:47:06AM WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN SIX MONTHS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT
10:47:09AM THINGS THIS CITY HAS DONE IN 20 YEARS.
10:47:12AM JUST IN THE SMALL BUCKET OF MONEY AND RESOURCES, WE'RE
10:47:15AM REORIENTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, REAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
10:47:19AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AWAY FROM THE EDIFICE COMPLEX.
10:47:22AM I THINK IT WILL TAKE A WHILE LONGER FOR US TO IMPLEMENT
10:47:26AM THINGS AND START TO SEE THE RESULTS, BUT I THINK THREE OR
10:47:28AM FOUR YEARS, WE'LL SEE PHENOMENAL RESULTS FROM THE THINGS
10:47:31AM THAT WE'RE ALL DOING WITH YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ALSO THE
10:47:34AM SUPPORT OF GREAT STAFF IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
10:47:38AM DEPARTMENT AT THE CITY.
10:47:39AM THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT.
10:47:41AM YOU LISTENED TO US AND YOU MOVED FORWARD ON IT, AND YOU'RE
10:47:45AM ACTING AND GETTING RESULTS.
10:47:46AM I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BRING IN A MORE
10:47:50AM REALLY DYNAMIC PEOPLE LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU KNOW THE
10:47:53AM IMPORTANCE OF SARAH HAVING SOMEBODY LIKE YOU UNDER HER
10:47:57AM LEADERSHIP.
10:47:57AM YOU HAVE TO FIND THE BEST PEOPLE AND YOU HAVE TO TRUST THEM
10:48:00AM TO IMPLEMENT.
10:48:01AM YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SPACE.
10:48:03AM YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, I THINK IT IS A GREAT
10:48:06AM SOLUTION BECAUSE YOU ARE ACROSS THE HALL FROM US.
10:48:09AM I DO WANT TO WORK ON THE LONGER TERM THING OF BUILDING A

10:48:13AM CORNER BUILDING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
10:48:16AM YOU AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT IT.
10:48:19AM MEANT WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
10:48:20AM WE NEED TO DO THAT BUT MAYBE A COUPLE OF YEARS OFF.
10:48:22AM IN THE MEANTIME, HAVING EVERYBODY ADJACENT TO YOU AND I
10:48:25AM THINK NICOLE AND ALIS WILL BE THERE, IS A GREAT WAY TO
10:48:29AM CREATE SYNERGIES.
10:48:30AM THERE IS SOME PUSH-BACK FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT NOT HAVING
10:48:33AM PEOPLE EMBEDDED IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I THINK THE
10:48:36AM REORGANIZATION THAT NICOLE STARTED AND YOU'RE IMPLEMENTING
10:48:39AM IS THE RIGHT ONE.
10:48:40AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TOUCH THE PEOPLE IN THE
10:48:42AM COMMUNITY AND THAT THE FOLKS THAT ARE PROJECT MANAGERS IN
10:48:45AM DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES ARE THERE AND ACCESSIBLE SO THAT
10:48:47AM PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY ARE THERE.
10:48:50AM I MET WITH VINCE PARDO THE OTHER DAY.
10:48:53AM AND HE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE OLD YCDC WOULD BE THE TOWN HALL
10:49:01AM AND PEOPLE WOULD STOP IN.
10:49:03AM NOWADAYS WITH TECHNOLOGY, MOST PEOPLE ARE TALKING ON THE
10:49:05AM PHONE.
10:49:06AM DOESN'T EXACTLY MATTER WHERE YOU ARE, BUT YOU NEED PEOPLE
10:49:09AM WALKING THE STREETS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
10:49:12AM NEXT IS INTEREST.
10:49:13AM I MADE A MOTION TWO, THREE YEARS AGO, WHICH I THINK WAS
10:49:17AM UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED, TO NOT ALLOW THE INTEREST TO

10:49:20AM ACCUMULATE ANYMORE AND TO SWEEP IT EVERY YEAR.
10:49:24AM I'M SURPRISED THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
10:49:26AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CFO OR SOMEONE
10:49:30AM REPORT BACK TO US AT THE NEXT CRA MEETING AS TO WHETHER THAT
10:49:35AM MOTION WAS FOLLOWED AND WHY OR WHY NOT.
10:49:39AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CFO AND THE
10:49:43AM DIRECTOR TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT CRA MEETING TO REPORT ON
10:49:46AM WHETHER THE MOTION TO SWEEP THE INTEREST ANNUALLY WAS
10:49:49AM FOLLOWED AND WHY OR WHY NOT.
10:49:53AM >> SECOND.
10:49:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE IS A MOTION TO HAVE THE CFO COME
10:49:57AM SPEAK AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER
10:50:01AM HURTAK.
10:50:02AM ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT?
10:50:03AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:50:04AM OPPOSED?
10:50:05AM MOTION CARRIES.
10:50:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE REASON IT'S IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE THERE
10:50:10AM WERE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ACCUMULATED IN THAT ACCOUNT.
10:50:14AM AND WE WERE BLINDSIDED BY IT DURING COVID THAT SO MUCH MONEY
10:50:18AM WAS THERE.
10:50:19AM NEXT IS -- I WANT MS. MOODY TO HEAR THIS.
10:50:25AM WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE NEXT MONTH.
10:50:29AM THE OTHER THING IS IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR TAGLINE, SOMEBODY
10:50:36AM ELSE DID IT AND DID A GREAT JOB.

10:50:38AM STRENGTHENING COMMUNITIES REALLY IS, TO ME, IT IS NOT JUST A
10:50:42AM TAGLINE, IT IS ABSOLUTELY THE MANTRA FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO
10:50:46AM AND A TOTALLY DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS.
10:50:48AM IF WE BUILD A NICE SHINY BUILDING, THAT WOULD BE ONE THING.
10:50:51AM I SPENT TIME IN SULPHUR SPRINGS YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE.
10:50:54AM PEOPLE THERE DON'T WANT 20-STORY SHINY TOWERS, WHICH IS WHAT
10:51:00AM THEY WOULD GET IF THEY HAD A NEW CRA.
10:51:01AM WHAT THEY WANT IS INVESTMENTS IN THEIR PARKS AND SIDEWALKS
10:51:04AM AND ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IN
10:51:07AM EVERY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:51:08AM WE HAVE MONEY IN DOWNTOWN CRA AND OTHER PLACES THAT WE CAN
10:51:11AM MOVE TO THOSE.
10:51:12AM WE NEED TO FOCUS ON COMMUNITY BUILDING, NOT INCENTIVIZING
10:51:16AM AND SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPERS THAT ARE GOING TO GENTRIFY.
10:51:19AM I THINK EVERYWHERE WE GO, OUR MANTRA NEEDS TO BE
10:51:24AM STRENGTHENING COMMUNITIES AND IT'S NOT JUST A MARKETING
10:51:26AM THING, IT REALLY IS ABOUT HOW WE BUILD COMMUNITIES AND WHAT
10:51:29AM IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND REDEVELOPMENT.
10:51:32AM WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND SUBSIDIZING
10:51:34AM REAL ESTATE?
10:51:35AM BY LAW WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO INVEST IN CERTAIN THINGS BUT WE
10:51:38AM HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CONNECTIVITY IS TO COMMUNITIES.
10:51:40AM WHEN WE INTERVIEW CAC CANDIDATES, I THINK THE MAIN QUESTION
10:51:45AM WE NEED TO ASK IS WHAT HAVE YOU DONE IN THIS DISTRICT TO
10:51:48AM BUILD COMMUNITY?

10:51:49AM WHAT IS YOUR EXPERIENCE IN BUILDING COMMUNITY IN THIS
10:51:53AM DISTRICT AND WE NEED TO SEE HOW THEY RESPOND TO THAT.
10:51:57AM IT SHOULD BE WE NEED PEOPLE WHO UNDERSTAND THIS CONNECTIVITY
10:52:00AM AND NOT JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING TO GET SUBSIDIES FOR
10:52:04AM DEVELOPERS.
10:52:05AM WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING TO HIRE PEOPLE, TO ME IT DOESN'T MATTER
10:52:08AM IF THEY HAVE THAT CREDENTIAL BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING IT
10:52:11AM ANYWAY.
10:52:12AM WE CAN PAY FOR THEM TO GET THAT AND THEY CAN GO THROUGH THE
10:52:15AM TRAINING.
10:52:15AM WHAT WE NEED IS PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO BUILD COMMUNITY.
10:52:18AM I WOULD HAVE THE SAME QUESTION FOR CAC MEMBERS AND THE SAME
10:52:21AM QUESTION FOR POTENTIAL NEW HIRES.
10:52:23AM THE LAST THING, WHICH IS A LITTLE THING, CAN YOU PULL UP THE
10:52:27AM SLIDE REAL FAST?
10:52:30AM >>ERICA MOODY: SURE, IF --
10:52:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: REAL FAST.
10:52:34AM YOU'LL SEE IN A SECOND.
10:52:35AM I HAVE WRITTEN A LOT OF GRAPHIC MANUALS AND YOU DON'T PUT
10:52:40AM GRAPHICS BEHIND A LOGO AND YOU'LL SEE WHY IN A SECOND.
10:52:45AM >>ERICA MOODY: T AND I, IF YOU COULD BRING UP THE DIRECTOR'S
10:52:48AM REPORT AGAIN.
10:52:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU CAN'T READ THE LOGO.
10:52:52AM WE SHOULD PROBABLY DESIGN A BACKGROUND FOR PowerPoints
10:53:00AM THAT IS DIFFERENT THAT ALLOWS LOGOS TO STAND OUT.

10:53:02AM THE OTHER WAY IS BUILD A WIDE BOX, BUT THAT WON'T LOOK GOOD.
10:53:07AM YOU'LL SEE YOU CAN'T READ IT.
10:53:10AM THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK STAFF PUT INTO DEVELOPING A LOGO AND
10:53:13AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE IT STANDS OUT.
10:53:15AM THANK YOU.
10:53:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
10:53:18AM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:53:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:53:19AM IT'S FUNNY THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK BROUGHT UP THE UACDC.
10:53:24AM I WAS TALKING OR COMMUNICATING WITH FORMER COUNTY
10:53:28AM COMMISSIONER AND SENATOR VICTOR CRIST.
10:53:35AM I REMEMBER, GOSH, MAYBE 20, 25 YEARS AGO WHEN HE STARTED IN
10:53:41AM THE UACDC AND SEEING HIM THERE AS A YOUNGER MAN AND STATE
10:53:45AM SENATOR.
10:53:46AM ALWAYS SAY IF HE WAS ORSON WELLES, THAT WOULD BE HIS CITIZEN
10:53:52AM KANE.
10:53:53AM THAT IS A REALLY GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHAT PUBLIC SERVICE CAN
10:53:56AM BRING WHEN YOU WANT TO INVEST IN PEOPLE AND WHATNOT.
10:53:59AM AGAIN, UACDC, I REMEMBER WHEN MS. COMBES CAME HERE, DR.
10:54:04AM COMBES CAME HERE MAYBE A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND PRESENTED
10:54:07AM ON THE UACDC, AND IT JUST BLUE PEOPLE AWAY THE THINGS THAT
10:54:11AM THEY ARE DOING THERE.
10:54:13AM IT REALLY GETS TO THE WORK OF WHY I SUPPORT CRAs.
10:54:17AM I ALWAYS HAVE.
10:54:19AM I COME FROM THE VIEWPOINT THAT IF YOU DON'T FORCE PEOPLE TO

10:54:22AM DO SOMETHING, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT A LOT OF TIMES,
10:54:26AM AND ESPECIALLY WHENEVER IT COMES TO POOR PEOPLE, THAT IF YOU
10:54:30AM DON'T FORCE CITY GOVERNMENT OR A LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO INVEST
10:54:32AM IN POOR PEOPLE AND IN BLIGHTED AREAS, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
10:54:36AM DO IT.
10:54:38AM I REMEMBER READING A LONG TIME AGO, I THINK IT WAS, OH,
10:54:42AM LORD, WHAT WAS HIS NAME?
10:54:43AM GEORGE REEDY I THINK WAS THE PRESS SECRETARY FOR PRESIDENT
10:54:47AM LYNDON JOHNSON, WHY ARE YOU DOING THE WAR ON POVERTY?
10:54:51AM POOR PEOPLE DON'T VOTE, ET CETERA.
10:54:52AM HE SAID, WELL, I'M GOING TO DO THIS, BY THE TIME I'M DONE,
10:54:56AM DON'T CARE IF I PASS A SINGLE BILL, GET A SINGLE DOLLAR,
10:54:59AM I'LL MAKE IT SO PEOPLE CAN'T AVOID THE POLITICAL AND MORAL
10:55:03AM ISSUE THAT IS POVERTY IN THEIR MIDST.
10:55:04AM CRAs, IF USED CORRECTLY, AND OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF DISCUSSION
10:55:10AM ON CHANNELSIDE, DOWNTOWN CRA, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT PLACES
10:55:13AM LIKE WEST TAMPA, YBOR CITY, THE OTHER CRAs THAT WE HAVE I
10:55:17AM THINK SERVE A GOOD PURPOSE BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO COMPEL
10:55:21AM INVESTMENT IN THESE BLIGHTED AREAS.
10:55:23AM THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE FOR.
10:55:24AM I HOPE THAT TALLAHASSEE CONTINUES TO SUPPORT THEM.
10:55:27AM I KNOW THAT THERE'S ALWAYS DISCUSSIONS ON CRAs AND
10:55:33AM EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
10:55:33AM AGAIN, I HOPE THAT TALLAHASSEE CONTINUES TO SUPPORT THEM
10:55:36AM BECAUSE THEY BRING IN, IF DONE PROPERLY, THE FREE MARKET,

10:55:40AM GOVERNMENT ACTIVISM, UNITED INTO REALLY INVESTING IN A
10:55:43AM ROBUST WAY IN BLIGHTED AREAS.
10:55:46AM AND I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED THAT SINCE I FIRST RAN FOR
10:55:49AM OFFICE IN 2016.
10:55:51AM BUT, AGAIN, I'M GLAD THE OUTSHOUT WAS MADE FOR THE UACDC.
10:55:54AM THAT IS ONE OF THE GREAT, I MEAN, JUST A REMARKABLE
10:55:58AM INSTITUTION IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:56:00AM WHEN I LEARNED THAT YOU CAME OUT OF THERE, TO QUOTE JERRY
10:56:04AM MAGUIRE, YOU HAD ME AT HELLO.
10:56:06AM THERE YOU GO.
10:56:07AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WOW.
10:56:09AM ANYONE ELSE?
10:56:15AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: QUICKLY, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT
10:56:17AM ITEM, THE CLERK HAS ASKED IF YOU COULD GET A MOTION
10:56:20AM CONFIRMING THE ELECTION.
10:56:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
10:56:25AM >> SECOND.
10:56:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO MOVED BY HURTAK FIRST AND THEN SECONDED
10:56:29AM BY VIERA.
10:56:31AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE APPROVAL -- WHAT WE'RE DOING IS
10:56:38AM WE'RE APPROVING THE NOMINATIONS, THE FOUR AT-LARGE.
10:56:43AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: EBONY, CRAIG, AILEEN AND CRAIG.
10:56:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:56:49AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

10:56:50AM OPPOSED?
10:56:51AM MOTION CARRIES FOR THE PEOPLE WE ACTUALLY ELECTED.
10:56:57AM >>ERICA MOODY: IF I COULD INVITE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR DRUMGO
10:57:00AM JUST TO SPEAK ON THE FINANCIAL PIECE WE PREVIOUSLY
10:57:03AM DISCUSSED.
10:57:04AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
10:57:06AM ALIS DRUMGO, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND
10:57:08AM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
10:57:10AM DIRECTOR MOODY KIND OF BROUGHT FORWARD TO YOU THAT YOU HAVE
10:57:13AM AN ITEM COMING UP ON JANUARY 25th FOR THE INTEREST, THAT
10:57:17AM REALLOCATION.
10:57:19AM BOARD MEMBER, YOU MADE THE MOTION THAT FOR THE CFO TO COME
10:57:24AM BACK, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU NEED HIM
10:57:27AM HERE BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE THAT MOVE IS
10:57:30AM BECAUSE OF THE PREVIOUS MOTION THAT WAS MOVED.
10:57:32AM FISCAL DECISIONS COME BEFORE THIS BOARD.
10:57:34AM TYPICALLY YOU ALL WOULD HEAR THE REALLOCATION OF THE
10:57:38AM ROLLOVER DOLLARS.
10:57:40AM THEY SPENT SOME TIME TRYING TO TRUE UP THE BUDGET, WHICH IS
10:57:43AM WHY THE PROCESS HAS TAKEN SO LONG, BUT THAT SHOULD BE COMING
10:57:46AM BACK BEFORE YOU.
10:57:47AM BUT THE REALLOCATION OF THE INTEREST IS SOMETHING THAT IS
10:57:51AM HAPPENING WITHOUT MOVEMENT BEFORE THIS BOARD.
10:57:54AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE
10:57:58AM PROTOCOLS AND THE APPROVALS THAT YOU'VE SET FORTH IN THE

10:58:01AM PAST, BUT THAT REALLOCATION DOES NEED TO COME BACK.
10:58:04AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: TO MY KNOWLEDGE, TO MR. DRUMGO'S POINT,
10:58:07AM SINCE YOU ALL MADE THE MOTION, THIS HAS BEEN DONE EVERY YEAR
10:58:12AM SINCE.
10:58:13AM IT'S KIND OF THE CLEANUP AT THE END OF THE 60 DAYS AFTER
10:58:18AM YEAR-END WHEN THEY RECONCILE THE ACCOUNTS.
10:58:21AM THIS IS A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
10:58:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: UNDERSTOOD.
10:58:24AM THANK YOU.
10:58:30AM >>ERICA MOODY: THAT INCLUDES THE CRA DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
10:58:34AM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR COMMENTS.
10:58:37AM IT HELPS ME KEEP GOING, ALSO ALONG WITH THE SUPPORT OF MY
10:58:40AM FAMILY BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF CHALLENGES
10:58:42AM WORKING TOWARDS SOLUTIONS.
10:58:44AM I'M EXCITED TO VISIT OUR CRA DISTRICTS AND BRING THAT SAME
10:58:46AM PRIDE AND JOY AND SHOW YOU WHAT WE'VE DONE.
10:58:49AM MR. ROBINSON SAID SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO SEE IT TO
10:58:51AM BELIEVE IT, AND THAT STARTS TO BRING HOPE TO A COMMUNITY.
10:58:54AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
10:58:57AM I AM HERE DOING THE WORK ALONGSIDE THE RESIDENTS AS WELL.
10:59:00AM WE ARE GOING TO MOVE INTO THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE CRA
10:59:03AM MANAGER'S REPORT.
10:59:05AM JUST TO SAVE TIME, YOU HEARD FROM MR. ROBINSON A
10:59:08AM COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE OF WEST TAMPA.
10:59:09AM I WILL QUICKLY TOUCH ON DREW PARK WHEN THE SLIDES COME UP

10:59:13AM AND I'LL INVITE OUR MANAGERS TO COME AND PRESENT.
10:59:16AM IF I.T. CAN BRING UP THE MANAGER'S REPORT, WE'LL QUICKLY GO
10:59:20AM THROUGH THAT AND KEEP THE AGENDA MOVING.
10:59:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE GET IT ON OUR SCREEN, TOO, PLEASE?
11:00:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
11:00:09AM IT'S UP.
11:00:10AM >>COURTNEY ORR: GOOD MORNING, COURTNEY ORR, INTERIM -- CRA
11:00:15AM MANAGER.
11:00:16AM I'M GOING TO BE COVERING THE FOUR CACs I'M OVERSEEING
11:00:18AM CURRENTLY -- CENTRAL PARK, CHANNEL DISTRICT, DOWNTOWN, AND
11:00:21AM TAMPA HEIGHTS.
11:00:21AM I'LL START WITH CENTRAL PARK.
11:00:24AM WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY DOING THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN
11:00:27AM IS UNDERWAY, SO WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THE U.S.
11:00:31AM TEAM THAT IS SUPPORTING US DOING CENTRAL PARK AS WELL AS
11:00:34AM TAMPA HEIGHTS CRP UPDATE.
11:00:36AM ATTENDED ALL OF OUR CAC MEETINGS.
11:00:38AM THEY HAVE BEEN VERY HANDS ON WITH OUR CACs, SO THAT'S BEEN
11:00:41AM TERRIFIC, LISTENING TO THEIR CONCERNS AND FEEDBACK FOR
11:00:44AM INCORPORATION INTO THE CRP.
11:00:46AM AND THEY HAVE DONE STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS, SO HAVE REACHED
11:00:49AM OUT TO CITY STAFF FOR INTERVIEWS, ONE ON ONE WITH
11:00:54AM INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO THE CRP UPDATE.
11:00:58AM AND WE ARE HOSTING A COMMUNITY VISIONING WORKSHOP THAT'S
11:01:01AM COMING UP FEBRUARY THE 15th.

11:01:02AM SO THAT'S IMPORTANT.
11:01:03AM WE'RE PUTTING MARKETING MATERIAL OUT TO MAKE SURE WE DRIVE
11:01:09AM AS MANY RESIDENTS THERE AS POSSIBLE FOR INPUT AS WELL.
11:01:12AM SO THAT IS FEBRUARY THE 15th AT ENCORE.
11:01:20AM FROM 5:30 TO 6:30 THAT EVENING.
11:01:23AM FOR THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE STUDY, I WON'T GET INTO THE
11:01:28AM DETAILS TOO MUCH HERE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO GET A
11:01:30AM COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE FROM API WHO IS THE CONSULTANT THAT'S
11:01:33AM BEEN WORKING ON THE WAY FINDING STUDY FOR THE FOUR DISTRICTS
11:01:36AM THAT I NAMED EARLIER.
11:01:37AM SO API WILL BE HERE, AND THEY HAVE VISITED EACH OF THE
11:01:41AM CACs TO GET THE INPUT FROM EACH CAC GROUP.
11:01:45AM PERRY HARVEY PARK, I JUST KNOW IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF
11:01:49AM CENTRAL PARK.
11:01:50AM SO I WANTED TO UPDATE THAT THE ARTS AND CULTURE DEPARTMENT
11:01:53AM IS WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE COMPANY THAT CAN REPAIR THE
11:02:02AM TILES THAT WERE DAMAGED.
11:02:03AM THEY HAVE SENT CHARDS OF THE LIFE TILES TO THE MASSACHUSETTS
11:02:10AM COMPANY WHO IS DOING COLOR MATCHING AND WILL BE DOING THE
11:02:13AM REPAIRS IN MARCH, NO LATER THAN APRIL.
11:02:16AM THEY FEEL VERY HOPEFUL ABOUT THAT.
11:02:18AM JUST WANTED TO REASSURE EVERYONE THAT EYES ARE ON THAT AND
11:02:22AM THAT IT WILL GET REPAIRED.
11:02:24AM GASWORX, YOU HEARD A PRESENTATION FROM GASWORX IN DECEMBER.
11:02:31AM APPROVED THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE REQUEST.

11:02:35AM I WON'T GIVE TOO MUCH INFORMATION ON THAT PARTICULAR
11:02:37AM PROJECT.
11:02:37AM IN CHANNEL DISTRICT, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE
11:02:45AM CONSULTANT SELECTED TO DO THE UPDATES TO WASHINGTON STREET
11:02:49AM PARK.
11:02:50AM WE HAVE DONE ONE COMMUNITY OUTREACH SESSION, ACTUALLY AT THE
11:02:54AM PARK THAT HAD A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT.
11:02:56AM AND WE HAVE THE SECOND ONE COMING UP THAT WILL BE HELD AT
11:02:59AM THE PORT TAMPA BOARDROOM AT 6 P.M. ON FEBRUARY 22.
11:03:03AM THAT WILL BE MORE OF A PRESENTATION STYLE.
11:03:06AM WE'LL PROMPTLY BEGIN THAT MEETING AT 6:00 SO DICKS HEIGHT
11:03:11AM CAN GIVE A PRESENTATION OF EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE TO DATE
11:03:14AM AND WHERE WE ARE GOING WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT OF WASHINGTON
11:03:17AM STREET PARK.
11:03:17AM BENEFICIAL BRIDGE STUDY, WE MET WITH MOBILITY TO GET THAT
11:03:23AM UNDERWAY AND IT IS A SPLIT BETWEEN CENTRAL PARK -- I'M
11:03:27AM SORRY, DOWNTOWN AND CHANNEL DISTRICT OF THE FUNDING FOR
11:03:31AM BENEFICIAL BRIDGE STUDY OF CONNECTING THE RIVERWALK.
11:03:34AM SO THE CONNECTIVITY THERE BY BENEFICIAL BRIDGE STUDY OR
11:03:38AM BENEFICIAL BRIDGE, THE STUDY TO DO -- HAVE BETTER
11:03:42AM CONNECTIVITY AT THAT LOCATION.
11:03:44AM SO THAT IS MOVING FORWARD.
11:03:47AM 810 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE, THE INTENT THERE IS FOR AN URBAN
11:03:51AM PARK.
11:03:51AM THE ACQUISITION HAS HAPPENED.

11:03:54AM THE CITY HAS ACQUIRED THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL AND WE ARE
11:03:58AM WORKING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IN A PARTNERSHIP TO MOVE
11:04:01AM FORWARD WITH LOOKING AT THAT POTENTIAL URBAN PARK, THE
11:04:06AM DESIGN, THE AMENITIES THAT WOULD GO THERE.
11:04:09AM AS FAR AS THE CRP AMENDMENT, YOU HEARD THAT LAST MONTH.
11:04:18AM IT IS GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON FEBRUARY THE
11:04:22AM 12th.
11:04:23AM WE HAVE IT ON THEIR AGENDA FEBRUARY THE 12th TO GIVE A
11:04:26AM REVIEW OF THE AMENDMENTS THAT THIS BODY APPROVED AND IF NO
11:04:31AM ISSUE AND IT IS APPROVED ON FEBRUARY 12th, IT WILL COME
11:04:34AM BACK BEFORE YOU AGAIN AT THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL FOR FINAL
11:04:36AM APPROVAL.
11:04:37AM IN DOWNTOWN, WE ALSO THERE ARE WORKING ON A COMMUNITY
11:04:42AM REDEVELOPMENT PLAN UPDATE.
11:04:44AM KITTLESON IS THE CONSULTANT FOR DOWNTOWN AND WE ARE WELL
11:04:50AM ENGAGED WITH THEM.
11:04:51AM WE HAVE REGULAR MEETINGS WITH KITTLESON.
11:04:57AM KITTLESON HAS CONDUCTED AN OUTREACH FOR THE COMMUNITY AND
11:05:01AM THEY HAVE BEEN TRACKING ALL OF THE DATA THAT THEY HAVE BEEN
11:05:04AM COLLECTING.
11:05:05AM THEY WILL CONCLUDE THE FINAL TWO ONE-ON-ONE BRIEFINGS WITH
11:05:09AM THIS BODY BETWEEN NOW AND MARCH BEFORE THEY COME BEFORE YOU
11:05:14AM TO GIVE A FULL PRESENTATION OF WHERE THE STATUS IS TO DATE.
11:05:17AM THAT WILL BE MARCH 21.
11:05:19AM KITTLESON WILL BE BEFORE YOU THEN AND WILL BE WRAPPING UP

11:05:24AM THE CRP UPDATE BY LATE SPRING, SUMMER, EARLY SUMMER TIME
11:05:27AM FRAME.
11:05:28AM TAMPA UNION STATION REHABILITATION, THAT IS UNDERWAY.
11:05:32AM THEY ARE WORKING TOWARD THE 90% DESIGN COMPLETION, AND WE'VE
11:05:36AM INVITED A TEAM THAT WOULD INCLUDE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, THE
11:05:41AM ARTS DEPARTMENT, FACILITIES.
11:05:44AM SO WE'LL BE HERE NEXT MONTH AND EVEN THE FRIENDS OF THE
11:05:47AM UNION STATION, I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THEM THE OTHER DAY.
11:05:50AM WE'LL HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE ABOUT EVERYTHING HAPPENING
11:05:52AM AT UNION STATION AND THAT REHABILITATION PROJECT AND THAT
11:05:55AM WILL BE FEBRUARY THE 8th.
11:05:57AM HERMAN MASSEY PARK RENOVATIONS, THAT'S MOVING FORWARD.
11:06:03AM FUNDING REALLOCATION WILL COME BEFORE YOU NEXT MONTH TO MAKE
11:06:08AM SURE THAT IS MOVING AHEAD.
11:06:10AM WE HAVE CONSTRUCTION PLANS APPROVED FOR HERMAN MASSEY PARK.
11:06:13AM AND THAT'S READY TO GO.
11:06:14AM TAMPA THEATRE REHABILITATION, WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION,
11:06:18AM ANOTHER COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION BY THEM ON MAY 9th.
11:06:24AM I WON'T GET INTO TOO MANY DETAILS BUT IT IS MOVING FORWARD.
11:06:29AM MELISSA MARTINEZ, OUR PROJECT MANAGER, IS ON THE CALL WEEKLY
11:06:33AM WITH THEM TO HEAR ANY CONCERNS, ISSUES, ANYWHERE WE CAN STEP
11:06:38AM IN, FACILITIES AS WELL IS ON THAT CALL FOR A WEEKLY UPDATE.
11:06:41AM STRAZ RENOVATIONS, THEY WERE HERE LAST MONTH, SO I WON'T GO
11:06:48AM INTO TOO MANY DETAILS ON THAT.
11:06:50AM THEY GIVE YOU A FULL UPDATE ON WHERE THAT PROJECT STANDS.

11:06:53AM WE ARE JUST AWAITING FINAL EXECUTION OF THE SECOND FUNDING
11:06:58AM AGREEMENT.
11:06:58AM EXECUTION OF THE SECOND FUNDING AGREEMENT.
11:07:01AM IT IS IN THEIR SHOP.
11:07:02AM I'M WAITING ON THEM TO SIGN IT AND THEN PROCESS IT ON OUR
11:07:05AM END.
11:07:06AM WE HAVE SET UP QUARTERLY UPDATES WITH THEM.
11:07:09AM THAT BEGINS ON JANUARY 26.
11:07:11AM WE'LL HAVE A QUARTERLY UPDATE IN JANUARY, AGAIN IN APRIL AND
11:07:15AM AGAIN IN JULY.
11:07:16AM WE'LL BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM ON JUST THE STATUS
11:07:19AM OF MEETING THE CONDITIONS PRECEDENT FOR THE GRANT AGREEMENT
11:07:23AM AS WELL AS ESTABLISHING THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT.
11:07:26AM GASWORX, YOU RECEIVED AN UPDATE AND APPROVED THEIR FUNDING
11:07:34AM REQUEST LAST MONTH.
11:07:35AM TAMPA HEIGHTS, I SPOKE TO THIS WHEN I TALKED ABOUT CENTRAL
11:07:40AM PARK.
11:07:41AM THAT IS ALSO BEING UPDATED.
11:07:44AM AND THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH SESSION FOR IT IS FEBRUARY THE
11:07:48AM 13th.
11:07:49AM AND THAT IS GOING TO BE FROM 6 TO 7 P.M. ON FEBRUARY THE
11:07:53AM 13th AT WHERE THE CAC MEETINGS ARE HELD EVERY MONTH, WHICH
11:07:57AM IS THE LAW FIRM CONFERENCE ROOM AT 1801 NORTH HIGHLAND
11:08:02AM AVENUE.
11:08:03AM AND THEN WE ARE ENGAGING ROBIN.

11:08:07AM WE KNOW ARTS IS IMPORTANT TO TAMPA HEIGHTS, SO WE HAVE
11:08:10AM ENGAGED ROBIN NIGH WITH THE ARTS DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE
11:08:13AM THAT IS WEAVED INTO THE CRP UPDATE.
11:08:17AM WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH ROBIN AND THE GROUP OF WHAT
11:08:20AM THEY FEEL IS SIGNIFICANT FROM AN ARTS STANDPOINT, ACTIVITY,
11:08:23AM PLACE-MAKING, ART COMPONENT.
11:08:25AM SO THAT IS BEING WEAVED INTO THAT PARTICULAR CRP UPDATE.
11:08:30AM LASTLY WITH THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH WE DO AND LISTENING TO
11:08:33AM THEIR CONCERNS, THE CAC WAS VERY INTERESTED IN HAVING SPEED
11:08:39AM TABLES INSTALLED AT DOYLE AND CARLSON.
11:08:42AM SO THAT IS MOVING FORWARD.
11:08:44AM WE ARE HAVING SPEED TABLES WORKING WITH MOBILITY.
11:08:47AM SPEED TABLES SHOULD BE INSTALLED VERY SOON TO HELP WITH THE
11:08:53AM FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND SLOW IT DOWN AT THAT LOCATION.
11:09:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL RIGHT.
11:09:01AM QUESTIONS?
11:09:02AM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:09:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU'VE ONLY BEEN IN THIS
11:09:08AM POSITION A COUPLE OF MONTHS, I THINK, AND YOU'VE DONE A
11:09:12AM PHENOMENAL JOB OF LEARNING IT ALL.
11:09:15AM I'M VERY IMPRESSED.
11:09:16AM >> THANK YOU.
11:09:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND NOT SURPRISED BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE A GREAT
11:09:19AM JOB WHERE YOU WERE BEFORE.
11:09:20AM THIS IS WHY I LIKE TO SEE THAT WE ARE USING THE TALENT WE

11:09:24AM HAVE AND FINDING NEW SPACES.
11:09:27AM IT'S OBVIOUS THIS IS A GOOD MATCH FOR YOU, SO
11:09:31AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:09:31AM HOW IN THE WORLD DO WE GET SPEED TABLES?
11:09:34AM I THOUGHT THOSE WEREN'T ALLOWED IN THE CITY ANYMORE?
11:09:38AM >>COURTNEY ORR: I SPOKE WITH MR. HARDY YESTERDAY, I DON'T
11:09:43AM KNOW IF I SHOULD SAY IT ON CAMERA.
11:09:44AM HE SAID IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
11:09:48AM IF WE HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHERE ADDITIONAL SPEED
11:09:51AM TABLES ARE NEEDED THAT THEY WOULD WELCOME THOSE
11:09:54AM RECOMMENDATIONS.
11:09:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:09:56AM WELL -- I WAS GOING TO SAY, WOW.
11:10:02AM THAT'S VERY EXCITING NEWS.
11:10:03AM I KNOW WE HAVE MULTIPLE WAYS TO DEAL WITH TRAFFIC, BUT I
11:10:07AM JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS FOR THAT.
11:10:09AM UH-OH, HERE COMES MR. DRUMGO.
11:10:13AM BUT, NO --
11:10:15AM >>COURTNEY ORR: I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO TAKE THE LIST
11:10:18AM OF THE REQUESTED SPEED TABLES, BUT WAS VERY WELCOMING IN
11:10:25AM TAKING RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHERE THOSE WOULD BE NEEDED.
11:10:30AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: SOMEBODY FROM MOBILITY IS HERE.
11:10:31AM OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING TECHNIQUES AS WELL.
11:10:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SORRY, BUT, YEAH, THIS IS EXCITING NEWS FOR
11:10:38AM THE WHOLE CITY.

11:10:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, MADAM CHAIR, AND BOARD MEMBERS.
11:10:42AM BRANDON CAMPBELL WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
11:10:44AM WE ARE HAPPY TO ENGAGE IN ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON SPEED
11:10:48AM TABLES.
11:10:49AM I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE NECESSARILY PIVOTED IN ANY
11:10:53AM SIGNIFICANT WAY FROM OUR PREVIOUS POLICY, BUT WE COULD
11:11:01AM DEFINITELY BRIEF ANY INDIVIDUAL OF YOU ON WHAT YOUR DESIRES
11:11:04AM ARE THERE AND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS.
11:11:08AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: LET ME INTERRUPT.
11:11:09AM FROM MY DAYS HAVING PREVIOUSLY REPRESENTED MOBILITY AND THIS
11:11:13AM MAY HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE THIS IS WAY BACK IN THE DAY IN THE
11:11:15AM EARLY 2000s, BUT THERE WERE SOME LEGAL ISSUES WITH SPEED
11:11:19AM TABLES.
11:11:20AM I THINK WE HAVE PIVOTED TO OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES TO
11:11:28AM TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM THAT.
11:11:30AM IT DOES NEED TO BE REVIEWED WITH LEGAL.
11:11:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE FOR THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT TO
11:11:36AM CREATE SOME VERY CLEAR LANGUAGE ON WHEN THEY WOULD BE USED
11:11:42AM AND WHEN THEY WOULDN'T BE USED BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO GET
11:11:45AM INUNDATED.
11:11:47AM WE'RE ALREADY INUNDATED, BUT IF YOU COULD PROVIDE THAT TO
11:11:51AM US, SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITIES SO
11:11:54AM THEY KNOW WHEN IT IS AND ISN'T APPROPRIATE DUE TO LEGAL
11:11:58AM RAMIFICATIONS WOULD BE GREAT.
11:12:00AM THANK YOU FOR THAT.

11:12:01AM >> WE'LL DO THAT.
11:12:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN CLENDENIN.
11:12:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, THE SPEED TABLE THING I GET ASKED
11:12:08AM EVERY DAY TO PUT THEM IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
11:12:10AM I WOULD BE REALLY CAREFUL, MAYBE ASK THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT
11:12:16AM TO CLARIFY IN A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
11:12:18AM IF WE START TO OPEN THAT BOX, THEN IT WILL BE OPEN FOR
11:12:22AM EVERYBODY AND WE'LL HAVE REQUESTS EVERYWHERE.
11:12:24AM I THINK THE MAIN CONCERN JUST FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, I
11:12:27AM THINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, AMBULANCES, FIRST RESPONDERS WERE
11:12:30AM CONCERNED ABOUT TIMELINESS OF GETTING TO PLACES BUT ALSO IF
11:12:34AM YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO IS POSSIBLY GOING TO PASS AWAY AND
11:12:38AM YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO A HOSPITAL, IT'S NOT GOOD TO HAVE
11:12:42AM THEM BUMPING UP AND DOWN, TOO.
11:12:45AM MS. MOODY, SHE MENTIONED ARTS, DIDN'T WE SET ASIDE A BUDGET
11:12:51AM FOR AN ARTS PERSON FOR THE CRA?
11:12:54AM >> I AM SO GLAD YOU ASKED THAT.
11:12:56AM WE HAVE THE POSITION ONLINE UNTIL JANUARY 22.
11:12:59AM IT IS THE ARTS AND CULTURAL COORDINATOR.
11:13:01AM AND THEY WILL BE TAKING ON ONLY CRA PROJECTS BECAUSE WE HAVE
11:13:04AM A LOT OF THEM, ART PROJECTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
11:13:09AM WE DO HAVE THAT POSITION IN OUR BUDGET AND IT IS CURRENTLY
11:13:12AM BEING ADVERTISED WHICH WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT BECAUSE
11:13:15AM WE CAN PROVIDE THAT ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.
11:13:16AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DO THINK THEY WILL BE WORKING WITH ROBIN

11:13:19AM NIGH.
11:13:20AM >>ERICA MOODY: YES, WORKING DIRECTLY WITH AND FOR --
11:13:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: MY COLLEAGUES KNOW I WAS NOT HAPPY WITH THE
11:13:26AM LACK OF TRANSPARENCY THE LAST TIME THE DEPARTMENT CAME
11:13:29AM BEFORE US.
11:13:30AM I PREFER WE TRY TO DO OUR OWN THING.
11:13:32AM WE HAVE TO WORK WITH MOBILITY OBVIOUSLY BUT I DON'T WANT TO
11:13:34AM WORK IN A WAY THAT IS NOT TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC.
11:13:37AM THE PUBLIC HAS THE RIGHT TO SEE DOCUMENTS AND SEE THEM IN
11:13:40AM ADVANCE.
11:13:40AM IF WE DO PARTNER WITH THEM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE CRA IS
11:13:43AM FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC RECORDS LAW AND TRANSPARENCY AND NOTICE
11:13:48AM IN WORKING WITH FOLKS.
11:13:49AM WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE DESIGNS THAT ARE SENSITIVE TO THE
11:13:54AM PUBLIC AND THE NEEDS AND INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC.
11:13:57AM I THINK PUBLIC ART IS A REALLY IMPORTANT THING AND THAT
11:14:00AM BRINGS UP THE ROUNDABOUTS.
11:14:02AM THERE ARE A COUPLE ONES RIGHT THERE AT TAMPA HEIGHTS.
11:14:04AM TWO OR THREE IN EAST TAMPA AND BOTH PLACES PEOPLE WANT
11:14:10AM PUBLIC ART IN THE MIDDLE OF THEM.
11:14:12AM IF THE CRA IS GOING TO FUND IT, I THINK THE CRA NEEDS TO
11:14:15AM DRIVE IT, NOT THE CITY.
11:14:16AM SO THE CRA CAN MOVE FASTER.
11:14:19AM WE'RE MORE NIMBLE AND I THINK MORE RESPONSIVE TO THE PUBLIC
11:14:22AM AND DEFINITELY WILL FOLLOW THE LAW IN PROVIDING PUBLIC

11:14:25AM RECORDS.
11:14:25AM I THINK WE'LL HEAR FROM THE CACs BUT I'VE BEEN HEARING
11:14:30AM FROM INDIVIDUALS, CAC MEMBERS THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON
11:14:34AM PUBLIC ART IN THOSE ROUNDABOUTS.
11:14:36AM EAST TAMPA, PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE THE ROUNDABOUTS.
11:14:40AM ALSO NEEDS TO BE EDUCATION ON THE ROUNDABOUTS ARE DESIGNED
11:14:42AM TO DRIVE OVER PART OF IT IF YOU HAVE A BIG TRUCK.
11:14:46AM ON THE DOWNTOWN ONE, THE BIGGEST ISSUE I SEE WE'RE FACING IN
11:14:51AM DOWNTOWN IS TRAFFIC JAMS.
11:14:53AM I SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING TO MOBILITY ABOUT THIS.
11:14:55AM I'M GOING TO TALK TO VIK LATER TODAY ABOUT IT.
11:14:59AM THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN MOBILITY AND
11:15:06AM THE CITY COUNCIL ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS.
11:15:09AM IT IS CAUSING A TRAFFIC CRUNCH IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:15:13AM NIGHTS WHEN THERE IS ONE EVENT, THERE ARE TRAFFIC JAMS BACK
11:15:16AM TO ROME OR HOWARD AVENUE AND ALSO DOWN PLATT STREET BECAUSE
11:15:22AM OF THE PREFERENCE THAT MOBILITY AND THE DESIGN IS GIVING TO
11:15:27AM PEDESTRIANS OVER CARS.
11:15:29AM I'M SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES IN PROVIDING ACCESSIBILITY FOR
11:15:34AM PEDESTRIANS, BUT THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED IS SO AGAINST CARS,
11:15:38AM THAT CARS CAN'T MOVE.
11:15:39AM WE HAVE GRIDLOCK.
11:15:41AM NOW WE HAVE MAJOR INVESTMENTS GOING ON IN DOWNTOWN.
11:15:43AM THE WATER STREET PEOPLE SAY PEOPLE CAN'T GET TO OUR HOTELS,
11:15:46AM CAN'T GET TO OUR APARTMENTS.

11:15:48AM CAN'T GET TO OUR AMENITIES BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC JAM.
11:15:51AM PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA ARE MAD BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET IN.
11:15:53AM HARBOUR ISLAND IS MAD BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET TO AND FROM
11:15:57AM ACROSS THE BRIDGES.
11:15:59AM IF THE CITY CAN'T READILY SOLVE THOSE OR IF THE CITY HAS A
11:16:03AM PHILOSOPHY TO DISREGARD CARS AND NOT ENABLE CAR TRAFFIC TO
11:16:07AM MOVE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO -- IN THE ABSENCE OF MASS
11:16:10AM TRANSIT, IF WE HAD MASS TRANSIT, WE COULD PREFERENCE CARS.
11:16:13AM IN THE MEANTIME, WE'VE GOT TO AT LEAST ALLOW CARS TO MOVE.
11:16:16AM SO I SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE A TRAFFIC STUDY FUNDED BY THE CRA.
11:16:21AM WE'VE GOT MONEY IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
11:16:24AM WE NEED TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.
11:16:25AM I STARTED MAKING MOTIONS ON THIS FOUR YEARS AGO AND STILL
11:16:28AM NOT FIXED.
11:16:29AM IN FACT, IT'S WORSE NOW THAN IT'S EVER BEEN.
11:16:33AM WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
11:16:35AM MORE THAN ONE EVENT, MARRIOTT, J.W., AMALIE ARENA, FURTHER
11:16:40AM ON WATER STREET, NOBODY CAN MOVE ANYWHERE.
11:16:44AM THE WAY THEY SHUT DOWN THE ROADS IS STILL BAD BECAUSE PEOPLE
11:16:47AM CAN'T MOVE AROUND.
11:16:48AM PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED.
11:16:49AM DRIVE THE WRONG WAY ON ONE-WAY STREETS.
11:16:52AM WE'VE GOT TO SOLVE THAT.
11:16:53AM THIS SEEMS LIKE A SMALL POINT, BUT WHEN WE MENTION GASWORX,
11:17:00AM I INSIST WE SAY GASWORX CDD OR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

11:17:08AM PROJECT.
11:17:09AM I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE'RE INVESTING IN CDD AND NOT
11:17:13AM SUBSIDIZING A DEVELOPER.
11:17:14AM THE CDD IS INVESTING IN INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:17:16AM THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE.
11:17:17AM THE WAY SOME OF THESE WERE DONE IN THE PAST WERE NOT AS
11:17:20AM TRANSPARENT AS THIS IS GOING TO BE.
11:17:23AM IT IS A NEW WAY OF FUNDING INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED TO
11:17:25AM DEVELOPMENT SO THE PUBLIC HAS INSIGHT AND TRANSPARENCY INTO
11:17:28AM IT.
11:17:29AM AND THE DEVELOPERS HAVE WORKED REALLY WELL WITH US ON IT.
11:17:32AM THE LAST THING, THE BENEFICIAL BRIDGE, KEEP IN MIND WHENEVER
11:17:35AM WE TOUCH, THERE ARE ONLY TWO WAYS IN AND OUT OF HARBOUR
11:17:39AM ISLAND.
11:17:39AM HARBOUR ISLAND FOLKS ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO HOW THOSE BRIDGES
11:17:44AM ARE MANAGED.
11:17:45AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER WE'RE DOING IN CONSULTATION
11:17:47AM WITH THEM.
11:17:48AM THERE IS AN AGREEMENT WE HAVE WHERE THEY PAY FOR UPGRADED
11:17:52AM LANDSCAPING AND OTHER THINGS.
11:17:54AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T ARBITRARILY GO IN AND RIP THAT
11:17:57AM OUT.
11:17:58AM ALSO, IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RIVERWALK, THAT DEPENDS ON
11:18:01AM WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE.
11:18:02AM WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING THAT PUTS STAR SHIP AT RISK OR THE

11:18:07AM CRUISE TERMINAL.
11:18:09AM THAT'S WHY THERE IS ANOTHER PROPOSAL IN HOW TO HANDLE THE
11:18:13AM RIVERWALK.
11:18:14AM THERE IS NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT MAY HELP US FIGURE OUT OTHER
11:18:16AM SOLUTIONS FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE.
11:18:18AM RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T DO ANYTHING THAT
11:18:20AM PUTS AT RISK THE MARITIME INDUSTRY BECAUSE IT IS A HUGE
11:18:24AM ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND IMPORTANT FOR
11:18:26AM STRATEGIC REASONS THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE MARITIME
11:18:29AM COMMUNITY AND WE HAVE TO RESIST THE DEVELOPERS THAT WANT TO
11:18:32AM ARBITRARILY TAKE OUT THE MARITIME INDUSTRY AND REDEVELOP IT.
11:18:36AM THANK YOU.
11:18:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:18:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE] NOT FOR OR AGAINST ANYTHING.
11:18:45AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RIVERWALK AND THE SHIPS, CERTAINLY I
11:18:50AM DON'T WANT TO LOSE THE SHIPS.
11:18:52AM WANT TO BUILD A RIVERWALK ALSO.
11:18:54AM THE QUESTION IS, HOW MANY DAYS OF THE YEAR ARE THE SHIPS
11:18:57AM COMING IN AND HOW MANY DAYS OF THE YEAR LEAVING OUT.
11:19:03AM RIVERWALK WILL BE DESIGNED TO BE CLOSED WHEN THE SHIPS ARE
11:19:05AM IN.
11:19:06AM I THINK THERE COULD BE A MARRIAGE BETWEEN THE SHIPPING
11:19:08AM INDUSTRY AND THE RIVERWALK AND EVERYBODY COULD BE HAPPY.
11:19:12AM MAKE THE CONVERSATION, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FACTS.
11:19:14AM WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE SHIPS.

11:19:16AM NOBODY WANTS TO LOSE THEM.
11:19:18AM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:19:18AM BUT WE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT THE RIVERWALK.
11:19:21AM SOMEBODY WANTS TO EXPAND IT.
11:19:23AM ALL OF US WANT TO HAVE SCENERY TO MAKE IT LOOK FANTASTIC AND
11:19:28AM BEAUTIFUL LIKE IT SHOULD BE.
11:19:29AM HOWEVER, WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
11:19:30AM SO MAYBE SOMEHOW WE CAN GET THE INFORMATION AND ASK MAYBE
11:19:34AM PEOPLE FROM THE AUTHORITY, PEOPLE FROM THE RIVERWALK AND
11:19:40AM PEOPLE FROM THE AQUARIUM TO COME IN AND SAY HOW MANY DAYS
11:19:43AM ARE THE SHIPS COMING IN, WHEN THEY COME IN AND WHEN THEY
11:19:46AM LEAVE.
11:19:46AM BERTHING THERE FOR SHIPS, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER
11:19:52AM FOUR, FIVE SHIPS COME IN.
11:19:55AM WON'T BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT.
11:19:58AM WHATEVER WE HAVE, CERTAINLY STANDARDIZED AND DOING WELL AND
11:20:01AM WANT TO MAINTAIN IT THAT WAY.
11:20:03AM ON THE OTHER HAND, I WANT TO SEE THE POSSIBILITY TO EXTEND
11:20:06AM THE RIVERWALK AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE THOSE SHIPS COME IN
11:20:09AM AND OUT AND MOSTLY THEY LEAVE ON CERTAIN DAYS AND COME BACK
11:20:12AM AT CERTAIN DAYS, SO THOSE SCHEDULES ARE IN CONCRETE UNLESS
11:20:16AM THERE IS A STORM SOMEWHERE.
11:20:18AM I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE NEED INFORMATION TO MAKE A
11:20:21AM CONVERSATION ABOUT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN COME TO SOME TYPE OF
11:20:24AM CONCLUSION FOR, AGAINST, OR HYBRID.

11:20:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, I WANT TO ASK YOU A
11:20:34AM QUESTION, LIKE A TRANSPARENCY.
11:20:35AM ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS WHERE THE COMMITTEE PICKED
11:20:38AM A PARTICULAR ART PROJECT THAT WE DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF
11:20:42AM MONTHS AGO?
11:20:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, THE COMMITTEE PICKED THE PROJECT BUT
11:20:47AM THEN THE STAFF REFUSED TO SHOW IT TO US, REFUSED TO GIVE
11:20:50AM RENDERINGS IN ADVANCE AND REFUSED TO SHOW THE NIGHT WE WERE
11:20:54AM DISCUSSING IT OR TIME WE WERE DISCUSSING IT.
11:20:56AM THEY HAD THE SLIDES UP AND REFUSED TO SHOW IT TO THE PUBLIC
11:20:59AM BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THE PUBLIC SHOULDN'T HAVE INPUT ON IT
11:21:01AM AND CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO WEIGH IN ON IT.
11:21:04AM ONE IN PARTICULAR, DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS,
11:21:07AM UNLESS YOU WANT TO, ONE IN PARTICULAR HAD THE POTENTIAL TO
11:21:10AM BE CONTROVERSIAL.
11:21:11AM I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT BECAUSE NOW THEY WILL
11:21:14AM SPEND HOW MUCH MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT COULD END UP BEING
11:21:17AM CONTROVERSIAL AFTER IT'S BUILT.
11:21:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
11:21:23AM ALL RIGHT.
11:21:28AM LET'S KEEP MOVING ON.
11:21:30AM >>ERICA MOODY: WE CAN DISCUSS ALL OF THAT MORE.
11:21:32AM ERICA MOODY, CRA DIRECTOR.
11:21:34AM I WILL BE SPEAKING QUICKLY ON DREW PARK.
11:21:36AM WE ARE ENGAGING IN MOBILITY, CONNECTIVITY, AND SAFETY

11:21:38AM IMPROVEMENT STUDY TO REALLY SEE HOW WE CAN CONNECT MOBILITY
11:21:42AM SAFETY PROJECTS AND QUICK BUILD OPTIONS.
11:21:44AM AS WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT AND
11:21:47AM CITY PLANNING TO DO SO AND LOOKING FORWARD TO BRINGING BACK
11:21:50AM THE PROJECT SHEETS FOR THE BID READY DOCUMENTS.
11:21:53AM THAT'S DREW PARK.
11:21:54AM WEST TAMPA, WE GOT A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE ALREADY.
11:21:58AM I WILL BE PASSING OUT THE FINAL REPORT FOR THE WEST TAMPA
11:22:02AM PARKING STUDY.
11:22:04AM IT WAS IN THE REQUIRED APPROVALS LAST MONTH.
11:22:06AM YOU APPROVED THE REPORT, BUT WE HAVE HARD COPIES HERE THAT
11:22:09AM HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED.
11:22:10AM AND THEY ARE VERY IMPRESSIVE.
11:22:12AM I'LL BE PASSING THAT OUT NOW AND THEN INVITING OUR EAST
11:22:14AM TAMPA MANAGER, MR. CEDRIC McCRAY, TO COME AND SPEAK ON
11:22:18AM EAST TAMPA.
11:22:25AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD MORNING.
11:22:26AM CEDRIC McCRAY.
11:22:28AM FIRST, BEFORE I GET INTO THE GRANTS UPDATE FOR EAST TAMPA, I
11:22:32AM WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO ATTORNEY PARIS WHO PROVIDED A
11:22:36AM COMPREHENSIVE REPORT ON EAST TAMPA LAST MONTH.
11:22:38AM VERY WELL DONE AND APPRECIATED.
11:22:41AM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO WELCOME ALL THE NEW
11:22:43AM AND RETURNING EAST TAMPA CAC MEMBERS AND LOOKING FORWARD TO
11:22:46AM WORKING WITH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM.

11:22:48AM OUR FIRST MEETING OR NEXT MEETING WILL BE FEBRUARY 6 AT
11:22:51AM 9 A.M., AND THE LOCATION HAS CHANGED FOR EXTENDED PERIOD OF
11:22:58AM TIME, MEETINGS HAVE BEEN HELD AT RAGAN PARK ON THE FIRST
11:23:02AM TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.
11:23:03AM THAT LOCATION WILL CHANGE TO THE NEW CITY CENTER ON HANNA
11:23:06AM AVENUE.
11:23:07AM I WILL BE SENDING OUT INFORMATION TO ALL OF THOSE NEW
11:23:11AM APPOINTEES PRIOR TO THE MEETING.
11:23:15AM THAT BEING SAID, JUST SOME OF THE NUMBERS HERE AS IT RELATES
11:23:20AM TO THE GRANTS UPDATE, ATTORNEY PARIS DID MENTION IN HIS
11:23:25AM REPORT THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, THE LAND ASSEMBLAGE FOR
11:23:31AM FY '23 ARE MAJOR COMPONENTS AS WELL AS THE EMERGENCY ROOFING
11:23:35AM GRANT THAT YOU ALL APPROVED IN 2022.
11:23:38AM AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF CONTINUING TO CONTINUE TO DO
11:23:42AM ROOFS IN EAST TAMPA FOR RESIDENTS THAT HAVE APPLIED.
11:23:44AM A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT FROM THE
11:23:49AM LAST QUARTER, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS AND WE COMPLETED THE
11:23:53AM SCORING PROCESS FOR THE UPDATED COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN
11:23:57AM AND WE'LL HAVE MORE TO COME IN THE COMING MONTHS AS IT
11:24:00AM RELATES TO THAT.
11:24:02AM ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS THAT WAS COMPLETED WAS THE APPROVAL
11:24:05AM OF THE OVERLAY HERE BY THE CITY COUNCIL WITH YOU ALL WEARING
11:24:10AM THAT HAT AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THAT HAD
11:24:13AM BEEN ONGOING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND WANTED TO THANK
11:24:17AM MS. KIM HEADLAND AND MEMBERS OF THE EAST TAMPA CAC THAT SAW

11:24:23AM FIT TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT DIRECTION.
11:24:24AM WE HAVE THE OPEN CAFE THAT RECEIVED A GRANT AND HAD THEIR
11:24:28AM GRAND OPENING AND RIBBON CUTTING ON OCTOBER 8 AND SOME OF
11:24:32AM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, CRA BOARD MEMBERS WERE THERE PRESENT
11:24:36AM AND AS WELL AS THE WELLNESS, THAT WAS ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAD
11:24:40AM BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND HAD A LONG
11:24:44AM HISTORY AND HAS BEEN CONVERTED INTO A PHARMACY AND WELLNESS
11:24:49AM CLINIC, SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO LIFT THAT UP AND THAT
11:24:52AM RIBBON CUTTING TOOK PLACE ON OCTOBER 16 AND WE APPRECIATE
11:24:55AM THE MEMBERS OF THE CRA BOARD THAT WERE ABLE TO ATTEND.
11:24:58AM I BELIEVE DIRECTOR MOODY TOUCHED ON OR ALLUDED TO SOME OF
11:25:04AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND THE PARTNERSHIP MEETINGS, YCDC
11:25:08AM AND EAST TAMPA PARTNERSHIP.
11:25:09AM WE ALSO ATTENDED THE PARTNERSHIP MEETING ON DECEMBER 12 TO
11:25:12AM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THE TRANSITION
11:25:15AM AND WE KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS FROM RESIDENTS IN
11:25:19AM EAST TAMPA THAT CAME OUT LAST MONTH DURING THE CRA BOARD
11:25:23AM PRESENTATION, BUT WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM
11:25:25AM AND ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE TRANSITIONS.
11:25:29AM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT AND INVITE THAT WE JUST
11:25:33AM RECEIVED EARLIER THIS WEEK AS IT RELATES TO THE SKILL CENTER
11:25:35AM AND THEIR RIBBON CUTTING ON MARCH 11.
11:25:38AM THAT'S GOING TO BE AT 10 A.M. AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT MANY
11:25:41AM OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THAT PROJECT AND IT HAS BEEN
11:25:45AM ONGOING AND WILL BE CUTTING A RIBBON IN MARCH.

11:25:49AM WITH THAT BEING SAID THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT THIS MORNING.
11:25:52AM FEEL FREE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:25:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:25:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A SHORT NARRATIVE AND THEN A
11:26:03AM RECOMMENDATION.
11:26:03AM WHEN I STARTED ON THIS ON CITY COUNCIL AND CRA BOARD FOUR
11:26:08AM AND A HALF YEARS AGO, ALMOST FIVE YEARS AGO, THE COMMUNITY
11:26:11AM CAME FORWARD AND SAID, WHY IS THERE SO MUCH MONEY STOCKPILED
11:26:15AM HERE?
11:26:15AM WHY AREN'T YOU SPENDING IT?
11:26:17AM I ASSUME SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO SUBSIDIZE A DEVELOPER OR
11:26:21AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:26:22AM WE STARTED PUSHING TO SPEND IT IN THE RIGHT WAY, LISTENING
11:26:26AM TO THE CAC AND THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEN OVER THE NEXT TWO OR
11:26:31AM THREE YEARS, WE HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM CAC MEMBERS
11:26:34AM AND THE COMMUNITY THAT STAFF WAS NOT WORKING WELL WITH THEM
11:26:36AM AND THAT ERUPTED INTO A BIG KIND OF TOWN HALL MEETING HERE A
11:26:40AM YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
11:26:43AM ALIS AND MS. TRAVIS STEPPED IN WITH YOU AND OTHERS AND
11:26:50AM TALKED TO FOLKS AND TRIED TO FIX THAT.
11:26:54AM THAT RESULTED IN BRINGING IN MS. MOODY.
11:27:01AM BUT ALSO -- I'M SAYING THIS FROM THE PUBLIC POINT OF VIEW,
11:27:09AM IT ALSO LED TO A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THE EAST TAMPA
11:27:12AM PARTNERSHIP AND HOW THE ELECTION WAS GOING AND THE CITY'S
11:27:15AM ROLE IN THAT OR NOT ROLE IN IT AND THEN THE CHAIR MADE A

11:27:21AM MOTION A FEW MONTHS AGO TO SEPARATE THE CACs FROM THE
11:27:25AM PARTNERSHIP AND ALSO THE YCDC, WHICH I TOTALLY AGREE WITH
11:27:29AM AND WE SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT A FEW YEARS AGO.
11:27:31AM THANK YOU TO HER FOR PROPOSING THAT.
11:27:34AM THAT THEN CAUSED A LOT OF CONFUSION, TOO, WITH MY COMMUNITY
11:27:38AM HAT ON, I STEPPED IN TO HELP YCDC.
11:27:42AM I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN HELPING PARTNERSHIP, BUT WITH ALL
11:27:45AM THAT CONFUSION AND THE BOARD SHIFT AND EVERYTHING, THERE WAS
11:27:48AM ALSO A LOT OF CONCERN WHICH WE HEARD PLAYED OUT IN THESE
11:27:51AM MEETINGS.
11:27:51AM NOW, TODAY, WE VOTED TO PUT, TO FILL ALL THE EMPTY SEATS ON
11:27:58AM THE CAC AND THE SEPARATION HAPPENED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
11:28:01AM WHAT I'M HOPING IS THAT WHEN THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS COME AND
11:28:06AM SAY YOU ALL HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR EAST TAMPA, WE HAVE
11:28:09AM DONE A LOT, BUT WE CAN DO A LOT MORE NOW THAT WE HAVE A FULL
11:28:13AM CAC.
11:28:14AM WE'LL HAVE A QUORUM.
11:28:15AM WE HAVE ALL THE NEW LEADERSHIP IN PLACE TO RUN IT CORRECTLY.
11:28:20AM WHAT I'M HOPING IS THAT TODAY CAN BE THE RESTART POINT FOR
11:28:24AM THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
11:28:28AM I WON'T MAKE A MOTION, MAYBE THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO MAKE
11:28:31AM THIS MOTION, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE LIKE A TOWN HALL
11:28:34AM MEETING AND IT COULD BE AN HOUR OR TWO OF ONE OF THESE
11:28:37AM MEETINGS, BUT WE OUGHT TO HAVE A TOWN HALL MEETING WHERE YOU
11:28:40AM INVITE ALL THE CAC MEMBERS IN AND INVITE THE COMMUNITY IN TO

11:28:44AM KIND OF CELEBRATE THAT WE'RE PAST THAT POINT AND LISTEN TO
11:28:48AM WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IN THE FUTURE SO THAT WE CAN HIT A
11:28:51AM RESET, A FULL COMMUNITY RESET AND MOVE FORWARD.
11:28:54AM BUT I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
11:28:57AM REALLY HARD OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
11:28:59AM IT TAKES A LOT LONGER THAN ANYBODY WANTS IN GOVERNMENT TO DO
11:29:04AM THINGS, BUT NOW WE FINALLY HAVE ALL THE RIGHT PIECES IN
11:29:08AM PLACE TO MOVE AND GET THINGS DONE.
11:29:09AM THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO KNOW THAT AND NEED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE
11:29:14AM LISTENING TO THEM AND THE CAC AND THE BOARD WANT THEIR
11:29:16AM PARTICIPATION.
11:29:17AM THANK YOU.
11:29:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:29:18AM ANYONE ELSE?
11:29:19AM OKAY.
11:29:20AM THANK YOU, MR. McCRAY.
11:29:22AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THANK YOU.
11:29:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
11:29:28AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:29:28AM HI.
11:29:29AM BRENDA THROWER, INTERIM YBOR DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
11:29:31AM GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
11:29:36AM I'M HERE TO GIVE YOU THE YBOR REPORT AND HAVE A FEW SLIDES
11:29:41AM HERE.
11:29:42AM REALLY ONE SLIDE WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION ON IT.

11:29:44AM FIRST OF ALL, THE FIRST BULLET IS REALLY ABOUT LAST MONTH
11:29:49AM YOU HEARD THE GASWORX PROPOSAL.
11:29:51AM YOU APPROVED IT AND THE COMMUNITY IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT
11:29:54AM THIS.
11:29:54AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO THESE PUBLIC REALM IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE
11:29:58AM GOING TO TAKE PLACE OVER MANY YEARS.
11:30:01AM IT WILL BE VERY TRANSFORMATIVE ESPECIALLY AS YOU'RE COMING
11:30:05AM UP FROM CHANNELSIDE INTO YBOR CITY, THAT WHOLE ROUNDABOUT
11:30:09AM AREA, ALL THAT WILL BE CHANGED.
11:30:11AM A LOT OF EXCITEMENT THERE.
11:30:12AM IF YOU ARE IN THE DISTRICT, YOU CAN SEE PHASE ONE OF GASWORX
11:30:15AM ALREADY GOING UP.
11:30:17AM SO THAT'S EXCITING.
11:30:20AM SECOND, WE PUT IN A NEW ALL-WAY STOP, THE CITY DID,
11:30:24AM ACTUALLY, IN THE YBOR CRA 2 AREA.
11:30:29AM THIS WAS A PROJECT THAT CAME ABOUT AS A REQUEST FROM THE CAC
11:30:33AM MEETING.
11:30:34AM WE DON'T DO THE SIGNS BUT MOBILITY DOES.
11:30:36AM WE GOT IT SHEPHERDED OVER TO THEIR DEPARTMENT AND THEY PUT
11:30:41AM IN THE FOUR-WAY STOP.
11:30:43AM I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND
11:30:45AM DEVELOPMENT GOING ALONG 4th AVENUE.
11:30:49AM AND THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION WAS AT ANGEL OLIVA AND
11:30:53AM 4th AVENUE WHERE THERE IS A BRAND-NEW DOG PARK.
11:30:57AM NOT ONLY WERE THE RESIDENTS REQUESTING IT, OUR DOGS WERE

11:31:01AM REQUESTING IT AS WELL BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE CROSSING THAT
11:31:04AM INTERSECTION QUITE A BIT.
11:31:04AM WE WORKED WITH THAT.
11:31:07AM WE ALWAYS HEAR COMMUNITY REQUESTS DURING CAC MEETINGS, SO WE
11:31:11AM MAKE SURE THAT WE LISTEN AND GET THEM SHEPHERDED TO THE
11:31:15AM RIGHT DEPARTMENT AND IT'S WORKING.
11:31:17AM VERY EXCITING PROJECT.
11:31:19AM YOU ALL KNOW I LOVE BRICKS.
11:31:21AM 7th AVENUE IS GOING TO GET REBRICKED.
11:31:24AM I HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU ALL SINCE I PUT THE SLIDE TOGETHER,
11:31:28AM WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH MOBILITY.
11:31:30AM IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN START THIS PROJECT POSSIBLY THIS
11:31:34AM SPRING.
11:31:34AM WE HAVE EXISTING CONTRACTOR THAT'S ON BOARD.
11:31:37AM WE HAVE ALREADY A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET AND THE COSTS HAVE
11:31:40AM COME IN UNDER THAT LINE ITEM.
11:31:42AM SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH PHASE ONE.
11:31:45AM AND PHASE ONE IS 15th TO 17th, WHICH I CALL MIDDLE OF
11:31:52AM 7th AVENUE THERE.
11:31:53AM THAT'S WHERE WE WILL BEGIN.
11:31:54AM I'LL GIVE YOU MORE UPDATES AS WE GET CLOSER TO A
11:31:57AM COMMENCEMENT DATE FOR THAT.
11:31:59AM WE WANT TO GET THROUGH PARADE SEASON AND FESTIVAL SEASON
11:32:02AM BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE NEED 7th AVENUE FOR THOSE EVENTS.
11:32:06AM BUT ALSO, WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT MAKING SURE THAT THIS

11:32:10AM PROJECT IS AT LEAST DISRUPTIVE AS IT CAN BE.
11:32:17AM MAYBE WORKING WITH SIGNAGE TO HELP PEOPLE COME DOWN TO SEE
11:32:20AM THE PROJECT BEING DONE.
11:32:21AM I WOULD LOVE IT TO BE MORE AN ATTRACTION AND NOT A
11:32:24AM DETERRENT.
11:32:25AM I DON'T WANT PEOPLE NOT TO COME TO YBOR CITY BECAUSE WE ARE
11:32:28AM DOING A BIG PROJECT ON 7th AVENUE.
11:32:30AM IT IS VERY EXCITING AND WE ARE USING AUTHENTIC BRICK.
11:32:37AM OCTOBER, DECEMBER, THERE WERE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WERE
11:32:40AM HELD ABOUT THE PARKING ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS.
11:32:45AM OUR ROLE IN THAT WAS TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO THE
11:32:48AM COMMUNITY.
11:32:49AM WE HAD VERY STRONG ATTENDANCE.
11:32:51AM PROBABLY A LITTLE MORE AT OCTOBER THAN DECEMBER, BUT THE
11:32:53AM COMMUNITY KNEW ABOUT IT.
11:32:54AM NO BACKLASH OF NOT KNOWING AND THEY DID PARTICIPATE IN THE
11:33:00AM PROCESS THAT IS REALLY LED BY LAND DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT
11:33:04AM AND ZONING.
11:33:05AM I THINK THERE IS A REPORT COMING BACK TO YOU ALL.
11:33:07AM NEXT WE HAVE THE BIENNIAL YBOR WORKER AND RESIDENT SURVEY.
11:33:12AM THIS WAS COMPLETED BY HCP.
11:33:15AM THE RESULTS ARE IN.
11:33:17AM WE'LL BE SHARING IT WITH THE CAC NEXT TUESDAY.
11:33:19AM AND THEN AFTER NEXT MONTH WE'LL, OF COURSE, SHARE IT WITH
11:33:22AM YOU ALL AS WELL.

11:33:23AM THIS IS A STUDY WE DO EVERY TWO YEARS.
11:33:26AM STARTED BACK IN 2016.
11:33:27AM SO THIS IS OUR FOURTH ITERATION OF IT.
11:33:30AM AND WHY DO WE DO IT?
11:33:31AM WELL, IT GIVES US A SURVEY THAT WE CAN TOUCH WORKERS AND
11:33:36AM RESIDENTS AND FIND OUT THEIR FEEDBACK, EVERYTHING FROM
11:33:39AM PUBLIC SAFETY TO CLEANLINESS TO ALSO WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD
11:33:43AM BE -- WHAT PROJECTS WOULD THEY SUPPORT?
11:33:45AM THINGS LIKE THE ARCHWAY LIGHTS AND THINGS BUBBLED UP AS
11:33:49AM BUDGET PRIORITIES HAVE COME ACTUALLY OUT OF SOME OF THE
11:33:51AM RESULTS OF THE STUDIES AND WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY.
11:33:55AM IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY OF GAINING INFORMATION.
11:33:57AM SO THAT'S GOING ON.
11:34:00AM I'LL HAVE A REPORT FOR YOU NEXT MONTH OR YOU ALL GET THE
11:34:03AM SURVEY NEXT MONTH.
11:34:04AM THE YBOR CAC AND YCDC ARE NOW INDEPENDENT.
11:34:08AM YES, THEY HAVE PARTED, BUT I AM SERVING AS A LIAISON TO THE
11:34:14AM YCDC.
11:34:14AM THEY ARE HOLDING MEETINGS SEPARATELY.
11:34:16AM BUT THEY ARE WORKING REALLY HARD ON KIND OF REDEFINING WHAT
11:34:19AM THEIR ORGANIZATION IS GOING TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO
11:34:22AM STRATEGIZING THEIR FUTURE.
11:34:24AM I'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CHAIR AND THE LEADERSHIP.
11:34:28AM I HAVE TO THANK COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR HELPING THEM AS WELL.
11:34:33AM I THINK THEY REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, THE ASSISTANCE ON JUST

11:34:37AM THE LOGOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WORKING ON.
11:34:41AM LAST, I'LL LEAVE THAT TO MR. MASSEY, ATTORNEY MASSEY,
11:34:44AM BECAUSE HE HAS SOME INFORMATION.
11:34:46AM I THINK IT'S ITEM 6 ON YOUR AGENDA ABOUT THE USAGE OF THE
11:34:50AM YBOR LOGO, THE CREST.
11:34:52AM THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
11:34:54AM ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:34:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:34:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:34:58AM THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY DETAILED REPORT.
11:35:00AM I ABSOLUTELY WANT TO TOUCH ON THE BRICKING PROJECT.
11:35:06AM I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE STARTING IT, BUT WE HAVE LEARNED
11:35:10AM RECENTLY FROM TWO OTHER MAJOR PROJECTS, UNDERGROUND
11:35:13AM PROJECTS, SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS STORMWATER PROJECT AND
11:35:16AM THEN THE FLORIBRASKA PROJECT THAT WE NEED TO TELL FOLKS
11:35:21AM AHEAD OF TIME, WE NEED TO HAVE AN INCREDIBLE PLAN FOR
11:35:25AM COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE BUSINESSES AND THE CONTRACTOR.
11:35:30AM SO I WOULD LOVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IS IN PLACE BEFORE
11:35:35AM ANY PART OF THE STREET IS TOUCHED.
11:35:38AM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS PROJECT IS GOING THROUGH MR.
11:35:43AM MUTTERBACK'S OFFICE, BUT IF IT IS NOT, WORKING WITH HIM ON
11:35:47AM SOME OF THE CONTRACTORS AND SOME OF THE NEW RULES THAT HE'S
11:35:52AM TRYING TO GET PUT IN PLACE, THE PROCEDURES ABOUT HOW WE WORK
11:35:56AM WITH DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS, BUT 100% DO ALL WE CAN.
11:36:03AM I KNOW YOU HAVE THE PULSE ON THAT COMMUNITY, BUT I THINK

11:36:07AM THIS COULD BE A GOOD, VERY PUBLIC PROJECT THAT COULD SHOW
11:36:12AM OUR RENEWED EFFORT AND REALLY FIND THE STRATEGIES THAT WORK.
11:36:18AM AND FROM THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS PROJECT, THE
11:36:20AM STRATEGIES THAT WORKED BEST WERE ACTUALLY FACE-TO-FACE
11:36:24AM CONVERSATION.
11:36:24AM SO I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE TO
11:36:28AM YOUR CONTRACTORS AND THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE
11:36:31AM AFFECTED BY THIS.
11:36:32AM AND WITH THE CAC AND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS
11:36:37AM BEST THEY CAN.
11:36:38AM SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING MORE UPDATES ON HOW WE'RE GOING
11:36:41AM TO UPDATE THE PUBLIC.
11:36:44AM YOU TALKED ABOUT SIGNAGE ALREADY.
11:36:46AM THAT'S WONDERFUL.
11:36:47AM AS MANY SIGNS AS POSSIBLE.
11:36:50AM SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HEAR AN UPDATE ON THAT BEFORE IT
11:36:55AM GETS STARTED.
11:36:56AM I KNOW WE HAVE A WAYS TO GO BEFORE THAT STARTS.
11:36:59AM AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE OF SOME PAST PROJECTS, REALLY, REALLY
11:37:03AM FOCUSING ON THIS ONE AS ONE THAT THE PUBLIC IS GOING TO BE
11:37:09AM ENGAGED WITH QUITE A BIT I THINK WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD WAY
11:37:11AM TO START OFF ON NEW FOOTING.
11:37:13AM >>BRENDA THROWER: ABSOLUTELY.
11:37:15AM WE WILL DEFINITELY DO A THOROUGH COMMUNICATION PLAN AND GET
11:37:17AM BACK TO YOU.

11:37:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:37:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SECOND WHAT SHE WAS SAYING.
11:37:29AM WE KNOW THAT ALREADY FOLKS IN YBOR ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW
11:37:34AM IT'S GOING TO AFFECT WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON
11:37:36AM THERE HOW ANYTHING COULD DESTABILIZE THE ECONOMY.
11:37:42AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER KING STREET
11:37:44AM SITUATION.
11:37:45AM PART OF IT IS COMMUNICATION.
11:37:46AM PART OF IT IS STAGING OF HOW IT'S DONE TO BE THE LEAST
11:37:51AM CUMBERSOME ON THE COMMUNITY.
11:37:54AM YBOR HAS BUSINESS DURING THE DAY AND BUSINESS AT NIGHT,
11:37:57AM DURING THE WEEK, BUSINESS ON THE WEEKEND.
11:37:59AM WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT, DEPENDING ON EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE
11:38:03AM GOING, HOW TO HAVE THE LEAST IMPACT IN THE TIMING OF HOW
11:38:07AM THINGS ARE DONE.
11:38:07AM SO I'M SURE YOU AND MOBILITY WILL WORK ON THAT.
11:38:11AM YOU KNOW EVERYBODY THERE.
11:38:13AM INTERESTING THING, I WAS IN SAVANNAH AT THE END OF THE
11:38:16AM HOLIDAYS, AND THEY REBRICKED THEIR MAIN THOROUGHFARE.
11:38:22AM ON THE SIDE WHERE CARS PARK, THEY PUT BRICKS UNDERNEATH
11:38:27AM WHERE THE CARS WERE PARKED THERE.
11:38:29AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR PLAN IS FOR THIS, BUT NOW THOSE BRICKS
11:38:33AM WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING ARE FALLING APART BECAUSE THEY USED
11:38:37AM ROAD IN THE MIDDLE BUT CHEAPER BRICKS WHERE THE CARS ARE
11:38:43AM PARKED.

11:38:44AM I KNOW MOBILITY KNOWS BETTER THAN TO DO THAT BUT CONSIDERING
11:38:47AM A CITY LIKE SAVANNAH DID IT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IF
11:38:50AM WE'RE BRICKING THE SPACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING THAT WE
11:38:53AM USE BRICKS THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE.
11:38:56AM THE LAST THING JUST SINCE YOU MENTIONED ON YCDC, FOUR YEARS
11:39:00AM AGO I MOVED MY DAY JOB BUSINESS TO YBOR AND WE'VE BEEN
11:39:03AM INVESTING HEAVILY IN YBOR.
11:39:05AM WE HAVE GIVEN A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY TO YBOR
11:39:12AM PROJECTS.
11:39:13AM ONE OF THEM IS YCDC.
11:39:15AM WE PRO BONO GIVEN THEM TOOLS AND WE'RE INVESTING DOLLARS IN
11:39:19AM HELPING THEM GET IT GOING.
11:39:21AM I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW FROM -- IN TERMS OF THE TWO HATS WE
11:39:26AM WEAR WITH DAY JOBS AND OTHER JOBS, IN THIS CASE I'M GIVING
11:39:30AM THINGS AWAY, NOT GETTING PAID FOR ANYTHING AND WON'T GET
11:39:33AM PAID FOR ANYTHING.
11:39:34AM THANK YOU.
11:39:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:39:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:39:38AM IN REGARDS TO THE FIRST PHASE OF THE BRICKING FROM 15th TO
11:39:41AM 17th STREET, I'M PICTURING IT, IT'S GOING TO BE A FAIRLY
11:39:48AM SMALL SECTION BUT A LOT OF BUSINESSES THERE.
11:39:50AM BUT THE BENEFIT OF YBOR IS I NEVER PARK ON 7th.
11:39:54AM I PARK IN THE PARKING GARAGE OFF OF 7th AND 15th OR
11:39:58AM RARELY THE NORIEGA GARAGE.

11:40:01AM LIKE THE OTHER NIGHT, I TOOK THE STREETCAR FROM HERE TO YBOR
11:40:04AM CITY.
11:40:06AM WE NEED THE COMMUNICATION BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF
11:40:08AM BUSINESSES THERE.
11:40:09AM IT IS A VERY CONCENTRATED AREA, BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER
11:40:13AM OPPORTUNITIES OF ACCESS POINTS.
11:40:14AM I HOPE IT DOESN'T BECOME LIKE A SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
11:40:21AM THAT IS ONE MESS.
11:40:22AM AND THEN THE KING STATE SITUATION --
11:40:25AM LUCKILY WE HAVE OTHER MOBILITY OPTIONS WHILE THIS IS
11:40:32AM DISRUPTED.
11:40:32AM AND IT WON'T BE ALL OF 7th AVENUE, FROM LIKE 15TH TO 22ND
11:40:34AM KIND OF THING.
11:40:35AM PHASED IN IS MORE HELPFUL.
11:40:37AM DO YOU HAVE A STARTING TIME?
11:40:40AM YOU SAID PARADE SEASON.
11:40:43AM THE PRIDE PARADE, I THINK.
11:40:45AM >>BRENDA THROWER: RIGHT.
11:40:46AM MAYBE APRIL WOULD BE THE EARLIEST WE COULD START ON
11:40:49AM SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
11:40:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW WILL THEY RECONFIGURE THE STREET?
11:40:52AM 7th AVENUE ORIGINALLY DIDN'T HAVE, FROM WHAT I SEE IN THE
11:40:59AM PHOTOS, YOU KNOW HOW THE CARS HAVE TO PULL IN AND PARALLEL
11:41:04AM PARK BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST STRAIGHT ROAD.
11:41:06AM A ROAD IS JUST CURVED.

11:41:10AM THE CURB CUTS AND CARS COME IN.
11:41:13AM ARE WE GOING TO WIDEN YBOR CITY AND ALLOW FOR MORE STREET
11:41:17AM PARKING ONCE WE REBRICK IT OR IS IT GOING TO STAY THE SAME
11:41:20AM CONFIGURATION?
11:41:21AM THE SIDEWALK IS HERE, THE CAR PULLS IN KIND OF THING.
11:41:28AM >>BRENDA THROWER: RIGHT NOW THEY ARE WORKING WITH A
11:41:30AM FRAMEWORK OF 7th AVENUE AND PUT THE BRICKS IN THE STREET.
11:41:34AM THAT'S WHERE THE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE FOCUSED AT.
11:41:37AM ABSOLUTELY.
11:41:40AM THIS IS NOT THE FIRST STREETSCAPE PROJECT I'VE DONE IN YBOR.
11:41:45AM WE DID ALL OF 7th AVENUE IN 2000.
11:41:47AM WE'VE DONE A LOT OF PROJECTS.
11:41:49AM WE KNEW BACK THEN YOU HAVE TO DO BLOCK BY BLOCK.
11:41:51AM YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH ALL THE BUSINESSES AND MAKE
11:41:55AM SURE.
11:41:57AM YES, IT'S WORKING WITHIN THE EXISTING FRAMEWORK.
11:42:00AM IT'S REAL BRICKS.
11:42:02AM IT'S ALMOST LIKE A BOX THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITHIN AND JUST
11:42:05AM PUTTING THE BRICKS IN THERE.
11:42:08AM FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM MOBILITY, THIS CONTRACTOR IS VERY,
11:42:11AM VERY -- DOING A GREAT JOB AND WORKS VERY WELL WITH THE
11:42:14AM COMMUNITY.
11:42:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M VERY HAPPY TO HEAR THIS.
11:42:20AM I HAD BREAKFAST WITH A GROUP OF PEOPLE AT TROPICANA IN 2015
11:42:25AM AND SAID LOVE TO SEE YBOR CITY REBRICKED.

11:42:27AM THE CROWD WAS EXCITED, GROUP WAS EXCITED.
11:42:30AM PEOPLE SAY, WELL, YOU HAVE BRICK BUILDING, WHY NOT JUST USE
11:42:35AM THAT BRICK?
11:42:36AM THE BRICKS USED FOR CONSTRUCTION ARE DIFFERENT FROM ROAD
11:42:39AM BLOCKS.
11:42:40AM HAVING VISITED, I ALWAYS GET THEM CONFUSED.
11:42:43AM IS IT WINTER PARK THAT BOUGHT ALL OF OUR BRICKS?
11:42:49AM WHAT A DIFFERENCE.
11:42:50AM I'M LOOKING AT THE BRICKS, YOU SEE KINKADE.
11:42:53AM YOU SEE BRICKS FROM -- AUGUSTA BLOCK.
11:42:58AM I'M WONDERING TO MYSELF HOW MANY OF THESE BRICKS WERE
11:43:01AM ORIGINALLY WITHIN TAMPA'S RESIDENTIAL ROADS OR YBOR CITY,
11:43:05AM BUT IT CHANGES THE AESTHETIC IN SUCH A WAY THAT YBOR CITY IS
11:43:09AM BEAUTIFUL.
11:43:09AM WE SEE THAT 7th AVENUE FACADE WITH THE BRICK STREET.
11:43:14AM A ROAD IS A ROAD, IT CHANGES IT COMPLETELY.
11:43:17AM AND I THINK IT'S SO IMPORTANT AND I THINK IT IS A WORTHY
11:43:20AM INVESTMENT AND WE HAVE THE MONEY THERE IN THE YBOR CITY CRA.
11:43:23AM I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS HAPPENING.
11:43:24AM THANK YOU.
11:43:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:43:27AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST THINKING WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER --
11:43:30AM I MEAN THE BOARD DISCUSSING ABOUT BRICKS, IS THERE GOING TO
11:43:33AM BE A WEIGHT LIMIT ON WHAT YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH THERE?
11:43:37AM >> THAT IS A MOBILITY QUESTION.

11:43:39AM I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
11:43:40AM I DON'T KNOW THE WEIGHT LIMIT.
11:43:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 150 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS A KID, USED TO
11:43:51AM BE BRICKS THROUGH YBOR CITY BUT ALSO NO HEAVY EQUIPMENT.
11:43:56AM CARS WERE REAL LIGHT.
11:43:58AM STREETCAR IN THE MIDDLE.
11:44:00AM A LOT OF DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEN AND NOW AND THE WEIGHT
11:44:02AM LIMIT THOSE BRICKS CAN TAKE.
11:44:04AM BEFORE YOU GO ANY FURTHER, YOU OUGHT TO FIND OUT WHAT THE
11:44:09AM BRICKS CAN TAKE PER SQUARE INCH AND WHAT THE DEAL IS.
11:44:15AM I WANT TO LAY DOWN A BRICK STREET BUT I DON'T WANT THE BRICK
11:44:18AM STREET TO BE DAMAGED IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS.
11:44:20AM >>BRENDA THROWER: CORRECT.
11:44:21AM OKAY.
11:44:21AM I WILL CHECK WITH MOBILITY ON THAT.
11:44:23AM WE DO HAVE 8th AVENUE THAT IS BRICKED AND OTHER AREAS.
11:44:26AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
11:44:27AM >>BRENDA THROWER: THANK YOU.
11:44:29AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:29AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
11:44:44AM >>ERICA MOODY: GOOD MORNING, HEADING INTO THE AFTERNOON,
11:44:46AM BOARD.
11:44:47AM ERICA MOODY, CRA DIRECTOR.
11:44:48AM WE HAVE THREE ITEMS REMAINING ON THE AGENDA.
11:44:51AM I DO HAVE A GUEST FOR OUR NEXT ITEM.

11:44:53AM WE'LL BE SPEAKING ON VETERAN HOUSING.
11:44:56AM THE FOLLOWING ITEM WILL BE THE ARMY NAVY LOT DISCUSSION AND
11:44:59AM THEN WE HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH ATTORNEY MASSEY ON THE YBOR
11:45:02AM LOGO.
11:45:02AM SO WE HAVE THREE MORE ITEMS TO GET THROUGH AND WE WILL
11:45:06AM PRESENT THE VETERAN ITEM NOW.
11:45:08AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO REPORT ON THE FUNDS THAT ARE BEING SPENT
11:45:11AM TO ASSIST, PARTICULARLY WITH VETERANS AND AFFORDABLE
11:45:13AM HOUSING.
11:45:15AM CRA STAFF MEET WITH COLONEL DJ REYES AND VETERAN HOUSING
11:45:20AM ADVOCATES.
11:45:20AM WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS THE LAST FEW MONTHS AND LEARNING THE
11:45:23AM WORLD OF VETERAN SUPPORT AS WELL AS PERMANENT HOUSING.
11:45:26AM AS WE HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH DIFFERENT ADVOCATES, WE'VE BEEN
11:45:30AM LEARNING ABOUT THE ON CARE, ON-SITE WRAPAROUND SERVICES THAT
11:45:34AM ARE NEEDED.
11:45:35AM WHAT THE CONTINUUM OF CARE MEANS WHEN THEY HAVE A VETERAN
11:45:38AM THAT IS IN NEED OF HOUSING PLACEMENT BUT ALL OF THE SUPPORT
11:45:41AM THAT IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET PLACED IN
11:45:44AM A GREAT HOME AND THEN ALSO STAY IN THAT HOME.
11:45:47AM SO WE HAVE BEEN REALLY CONNECTING TO THE STAKEHOLDERS.
11:45:50AM AND PART OF THE CRA STRATEGY FOR HOUSING IS LAND ASSEMBLAGE.
11:45:54AM WE'VE BEEN AGGRESSIVELY LOOKING FOR LOTS AND PROPERTIES AND
11:45:57AM PARCELS TO ACQUIRE SO THEN WE CAN CREATE THESE MASTER PLANS
11:46:01AM AND DEVELOP COMMUNITIES.

11:46:02AM THE LAND ASSEMBLAGE IS PART OF THAT STRATEGY THERE.
11:46:06AM I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OUR GUEST.
11:46:08AM HE IS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF ST. VINCENT DE PAUL
11:46:12AM CARES.
11:46:12AM HIS NAME IS MICHAEL RAPOSA.
11:46:15AM HE WILL BE SPEAKING ABOUT SOME REAL-TIME DATA THAT'S COMING
11:46:18AM OUT.
11:46:18AM THERE IS A VETERAN COMMITTEE THAT JUST PUBLISHED THEIR
11:46:21AM YEAR-END RESULTS.
11:46:22AM HE CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT HE'S SEEN
11:46:26AM SUCCESSFUL AROUND VETERAN HOUSING AS WELL AS SOME OF THE
11:46:28AM DATA COMING OUT AS FAR AS THE NEED, AGE, AMIs THAT THEY
11:46:32AM ARE SEEING SO WE CAN MAKE DATA-DRIVEN DECISIONS FROM THAT.
11:46:36AM I'LL INVITE OUR GUEST TO COME AND SPEAK ON THAT EXPERT
11:46:40AM LEVEL.
11:46:40AM THANK YOU, MR. RAPOSA.
11:46:42AM >> THANK YOU.
11:46:43AM GOOD MORNING STILL.
11:46:46AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RAPOSA.
11:46:48AM I'M THE CEO WITH ST. VINCENT DE PAUL CARES.
11:46:51AM I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING YOU ALL CONJURED UP SOME
11:46:53AM INCREDIBLE MEMORIES FOR ME THIS MORNING BECAUSE I STARTED MY
11:46:58AM PUBLIC SERVICE CAREER WORKING FOR VINCE PARDO AT
11:47:01AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY GOVERNMENT IN THE COMMUNITY ACTION AND
11:47:03AM PLANNING AGENCY, AND I WORKED ON THE FIRST WEED AND SEED

11:47:05AM GRANT WITH VICTOR CRIST IN THE FORMATION OF YCDC.
11:47:09AM IT'S FUNNY HOW YOU GET ON WITH LIFE AND YOU FORGET STUFF,
11:47:13AM AND THEN I'M SITTING HERE THIS MORNING GETTING KIND OF
11:47:15AM CHOKED UP.
11:47:17AM VINCE, IF YOU ARE WATCHING, I'M STILL ALIVE.
11:47:19AM HE PROBABLY DIDN'T THINK I WOULD MAKE IT THIS LONG.
11:47:22AM I WAS A CRAZY KID BACK THEN, AND HE WAS A HUGE MENTOR TO ME.
11:47:25AM SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, FIRST AND FOREMOST.
11:47:27AM ST. VINCENT DE PAUL CARES HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THE VETERAN
11:47:32AM WORLD FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS.
11:47:34AM I HAVEN'T BEEN WORKING THERE QUITE THAT LONG.
11:47:37AM BUT WE'VE BEEN HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH WORKING FOR A LITTLE
11:47:42AM OVER TEN YEARS IN THIS SPACE.
11:47:45AM I'M ACTUALLY NOT ONLY HERE TODAY SPEAKING TO YOU ON BEHALF,
11:47:52AM BUT I CHAIR THE LEADERSHIP COMMITTEE ON THE CONTINUUM OF
11:47:55AM CARE OVER AT THE TAMPA HOMELESS INITIATIVE AND WE WORK VERY
11:47:58AM CLOSELY WITH THE VETERANS ADMINISTRATION STAFF OUT OF JAMES
11:48:01AM HALEY.
11:48:02AM SO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY OBVIOUSLY IS DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO
11:48:05AM JAMES HALEY, THE VETERANS THAT WE SERVE PARTICIPATE IN JAMES
11:48:09AM HALEY.
11:48:11AM AND WE ARE THE LARGEST OF THE VA HOMELESS SERVICE
11:48:14AM CONTRACTORS IN THE UNITED STATES.
11:48:17AM WE HAVE CLOSE TO $40 MILLION THIS YEAR OF VA MONEY.
11:48:22AM WE WORK ACROSS 19 COUNTIES.

11:48:25AM 11 CONTINUUM OF CARES.
11:48:26AM IN ADDITION TO THE TAMPA BAY METRO AREA, WE ALSO PROVIDE
11:48:29AM THESE SERVICES IN THE ORLANDO METRO AREA.
11:48:32AM I KIND OF COME TO YOU WITH THE ABILITY TO NOT ONLY TAKE A
11:48:36AM LOOK AT WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN THE TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH
11:48:38AM MARKET BUT WHAT'S HAPPENING ALONG THE WEST COAST OF FLORIDA,
11:48:41AM ALL THE WAY FROM CITRUS, SUMTER, LAKE COUNTY TO THE NORTH,
11:48:44AM COLLIER TO THE SOUTH, AND WE GO COMPLETELY INLAND INCLUDING
11:48:47AM THE RURAL AREAS OF DESOTO AND THE TRI-COUNTY AREA AND AROUND
11:48:55AM ORLANDO.
11:48:55AM OUR ORGANIZATION IS ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL IN THE UNITED
11:48:58AM STATES.
11:48:59AM I'M REALLY PROUD OF THAT.
11:49:00AM I PERSONALLY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
11:49:03AM I AM THE MOUTHPIECE.
11:49:05AM I SHOW UP AND TALK A LOT.
11:49:08AM BUT MY STAFF REALLY DO THE WORK.
11:49:11AM WE HAVE MOVED 4,466 HOUSEHOLDS INTO HOUSING SINCE THE
11:49:16AM BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC.
11:49:18AM WE STARTED TO TRACK THE DATA AT THE BEGINNING OF THE
11:49:21AM PANDEMIC PRIMARILY BECAUSE MOST SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES
11:49:24AM STOPPED WORKING FOR THOSE THREE YEARS, TWO AND A HALF YEARS,
11:49:28AM INCLUDING A LOT OF THE STAFF WITHIN THE VA MEDICAL CENTER
11:49:31AM STARTED TO WORK FROM HOME.
11:49:33AM MY TEAM DID NOT.

11:49:35AM OF THE 4400 THAT WE DID, OVER 722 WERE HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH
11:49:41AM COUNTY.
11:49:44AM WE'RE A MACHINE.
11:49:45AM I MEAN, THEY ARE MOVING IN SIX, EIGHT, TEN PER WEEK OUT OF
11:49:48AM THE SYSTEM INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.
11:49:50AM WE CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 375 HOUSEHOLDS OPEN TO US.
11:49:56AM THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH THEM.
11:49:58AM I THINK TWO-THIRDS OF THEM ARE PLACED IN HOUSING AND ABOUT
11:50:02AM ONE-THIRD OF THEM ARE LOOKING FOR HOUSING.
11:50:04AM I WANT TO TALK FOR A SECOND ABOUT WHAT THE SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE
11:50:11AM BOTH THEORETICALLY AND THEN A REALITY CHECK FOR WHAT WE'RE
11:50:15AM SEEING HERE IN THE TAMPA AREA.
11:50:18AM I'M REALLY, REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS, SO IF I KIND OF
11:50:21AM GET FIRED UP, JUST KIND OF NUDGE ME.
11:50:24AM I SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
11:50:27AM DOWN HERE TWO OR THREE NIGHTS A WEEK AT MEETINGS.
11:50:30AM AND I WISH THAT I COULD TELL YOU THAT THERE'S NO HOMELESS
11:50:33AM AND WISH I COULD TELL YOU THE NUMBER OVER THE LAST YEAR IS
11:50:37AM GOING DOWN.
11:50:37AM IT'S NOT, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM.
11:50:42AM SO WHAT NORMALLY HAPPENS IS A PERSON EXPERIENCING HOMELESS
11:50:45AM -- I'LL STICK TO THE VETERAN WORLD RIGHT NOW -- OUT ON THE
11:50:48AM STREET, THEIR FIRST INTERFACE MOST OF THE TIME IS WITH SOME
11:50:52AM FORM OF OUTREACH, THROUGH TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, SOMETIMES
11:50:55AM WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SOMETIMES

11:50:57AM THROUGH BRIGADE AND SOME OF THE OTHER ENTITIES PROVIDING
11:51:01AM THAT OUTREACH SERVICE.
11:51:02AM AND THAT ENGAGEMENT, THE EFFORT OF THAT ENGAGEMENT HAS
11:51:06AM SHIFTED IN THE LAST TEN YEARS.
11:51:08AM THAT ENGAGEMENT TODAY IS TRYING TO TIE THEM TO A HOUSING
11:51:11AM INTERVENTION AND TO GET THEM OFF THE STREET.
11:51:13AM THAT IS THE CRITICAL FOCUS THAT WE'RE DOING.
11:51:17AM AND TRYING TO TIE THEM TO A SHELTER PLACEMENT BECAUSE I WILL
11:51:20AM TELL YOU THAT THE OUTCOMES OF WORKING WITH THE HOMELESS
11:51:23AM VETERAN IN SHELTER EXPONENTIALLY GREATER THAN TRYING TO WORK
11:51:27AM WITH SOMEONE STILL AT LARGE AND STILL LIVING OUT ON THE
11:51:31AM STREET.
11:51:31AM DURING THIS TIME BETWEEN THIS OUTREACH AND THE SHELTER,
11:51:34AM THERE IS AN ACCURATE ASSESSMENT THAT IS DONE.
11:51:37AM WE CAN ACTUALLY MEASURE THE DEPTH OR THE ACUITY OF A PERSON
11:51:42AM EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND RATE THAT ON A COMMON SCALE
11:51:45AM WHICH KIND OF GUIDES US ON THE BACK END OF IT ABOUT WHAT THE
11:51:48AM BEST PATH IS.
11:51:49AM THE WAY TO THINK ABOUT THAT IS WHEN YOU GO TO THE ER.
11:51:52AM WHEN YOU GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM -- NOT THAT I WISH THIS ON
11:51:55AM ANYBODY -- GOD FORBID YOU GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, NOT
11:51:58AM EVERYBODY THAT GOES IN GETS ICU.
11:52:00AM NOT EVERYBODY THAT GOES IN GETS SURGERY, SOMETIMES NOT
11:52:03AM EVERYBODY GETS TO GO TO THE BACK AND SEE THE DOCTOR.
11:52:05AM THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT THE HEALTH CARE SYSTEM

11:52:08AM MEASURES ACUITY AND THE HOMELESS CARE SYSTEM ALSO MEASURES
11:52:14AM ACUITY.
11:52:15AM THE OBJECT OF THE GAME IS HOUSING.
11:52:18AM THE ONLY SOLUTION FOR HOMELESSNESS IN THE COMMUNITY IS
11:52:20AM HOUSING.
11:52:21AM WHAT WE TRY TO DO, BASED ON THAT ASSESSMENT, THE VETERAN IS
11:52:24AM EITHER PLACED IN INDEPENDENT HOUSING OR PLACED IN HOUSING
11:52:27AM THAT HAS SERVICES ATTACHED TO IT.
11:52:29AM MANY OF YOU WOULD KNOW THAT AS HUD VASH.
11:52:35AM THE VOUCHER THAT HAS BOTH CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND THE
11:52:39AM ABILITY TO KIND OF SORT OF PAY FOR THE HOUSING.
11:52:43AM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VETERANS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU
11:52:46AM ALL UNDERSTAND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A QUALIFIED VET
11:52:48AM AND NONQUALIFIED VET.
11:52:50AM IN THE VA, IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ARE VERY, VERY SPECIFIC
11:52:57AM ABOUT WHO WE CAN SERVE UNDER MOST OF THE CONTRACTS.
11:53:00AM I THINK IT SHOULD BE A FELONY IN OUR COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO
11:53:03AM STAND ON THE STREET CORNER AND HOLD UP A SIGN THAT SAYS I'M
11:53:06AM A VET IF YOU'RE NOT A VET.
11:53:08AM I GET INCENSED WHEN I SEE PEOPLE DO THAT.
11:53:12AM THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ON STREET CORNERS TRYING TO RAISE
11:53:16AM MONEY WITH THAT SIGN ARE LIKING.
11:53:17AM THEY ARE JUST -- ARE LYING.
11:53:19AM THEY ARE USING THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO COLLECT FUNDS.
11:53:21AM THE VA LOOKS AT TWO THINGS WHEN IT DETERMINES THE PATHWAY.

11:53:26AM ONE OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH THEIR DISCHARGE STATUS.
11:53:28AM IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR VA SERVICES, THEY CANNOT HAVE BEEN
11:53:32AM DISHONORABLY DISCHARGED.
11:53:35AM ALSO CRITERIA ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
11:53:37AM FLORIDA NATIONAL GUARD, IF THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN DEPLOYED ARE
11:53:40AM NOT GOING TO QUALIFY FOR SERVICES, ALTHOUGH THEY CONSIDER
11:53:43AM THEMSELVES VETS AND DID SERVE OUR NATION AND DID SERVE OUR
11:53:47AM STATE.
11:53:47AM THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER, TOO, IS THAT THE SERVICES THAT
11:53:50AM ARE CURRENTLY BEING PROVIDED ARE TARGETING EXTREMELY LOW
11:53:55AM INCOME.
11:53:56AM JUST THIS YEAR, VA LIFTED THAT THRESHOLD FROM 50% AMI TO 80%
11:54:02AM AMI WHICH OPENED THE DOOR TO MORE WHO ARE QUALIFYING FOR
11:54:06AM THOSE SERVICES.
11:54:07AM THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THE PANDEMIC HAS THROWN THE HOUSING
11:54:12AM MARKET INTO A CRISIS AND I KNOW THAT BOTH AS THIS BOARD AND
11:54:16AM AS CITY COUNCIL, YOU'RE HEARING IT EVERYWHERE.
11:54:19AM BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, THE FAIR MARKET HOUSING AND THE
11:54:23AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING MARKET WERE ALMOST COMPLETELY
11:54:26AM DISCONNECTED.
11:54:27AM THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP.
11:54:28AM BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IF YOU MADE AN AMOUNT OF MONEY AND
11:54:31AM COULD LIVE IN HYDE PARK, MADE ENOUGH MONEY AND COULD LIVE IN
11:54:36AM A FAIR MARKET UNIT, YOU WOULD GO THERE.
11:54:38AM WHEN THE FAIR MARKET UNIT COLLAPSED BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC

11:54:43AM AND MORATORIUM ON EVICTION KILLED US.
11:54:46AM WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING WAS THE FAIR MARKETPLACE ALMOST
11:54:50AM DOUBLED, IN SOME CASES TRIPLED, SOME CASES QUADRUPLED THAT
11:54:54AM RENT.
11:54:55AM THE TENANTS HAD TO GO TO THE AFFORDABLE MARKET.
11:54:58AM WHEN THEY CAME OVER TO THE AFFORDABLE MARKET, WE NOW HAVE
11:55:02AM LANDLORDS TELLING US I COULD GET TWO TIMES WHAT SVPD, TWO
11:55:07AM TIMES WHAT VA IS WILLING TO PAY.
11:55:10AM CERTAINLY MORE THAN TWO TIMES WHAT HUD IS WILLING TO PAY ON
11:55:14AM A VASH VOUCHER.
11:55:17AM THE CRISIS WE'RE SEEING IS REAL.
11:55:18AM THE NUMBERS WE'RE SEEING ARE ASTRONOMICAL.
11:55:21AM LAST YEAR'S POINT IN TIME COUNT DONE BY THE CONTINUUM OF
11:55:24AM CARE, MIND YOU, THIS DATA IS ALMOST 12 MONTHS OLD.
11:55:29AM 12 MONTHS OLD IN THREE WEEKS.
11:55:31AM SHOWED A 59% INCREASE IN VETERANS OUT ON THE STREET AND
11:55:35AM UNSHELTERED.
11:55:36AM I WILL TELL YOU THAT NUMBER IS WAY WORSE AND HAS NOT GOTTEN
11:55:40AM MUCH BETTER DURING THE FISCAL YEAR.
11:55:42AM WE TOOK DATA DURING THE MONTH OF DECEMBER AND COLLECTED DATA
11:55:48AM AT THE TOUCH POINTS TO THE SYSTEM AS IT PERTAINS TO
11:55:51AM VETERANS.
11:55:52AM IN ONE SEVEN-DAY PERIOD, THERE WERE 152, I THINK IT WAS,
11:55:57AM 151, 152 UNDUPLICATED VETERANS SEEKING SHELTER IN TAMPA
11:56:03AM WHERE THERE WAS NO SHELTER BED AVAILABLE TO THEM.

11:56:07AM THERE ARE CRISES THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.
11:56:10AM CRISES IN THE SHELTER WORLD BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH.
11:56:13AM THE SYSTEM IS NOT RIGHT SIZED FOR THIS.
11:56:15AM THE CRITICAL THING IS ON THE BACK END OF IT, THERE IS NOT
11:56:19AM ENOUGH HOUSING.
11:56:20AM NOT ENOUGH HOUSING STOCK.
11:56:22AM TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN BUILD OUR
11:56:24AM WAY OUT OF IT, BUT THE PLANNING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN TODAY IS
11:56:29AM REALLY SETTING PLANNING IN PLACE FOR FIVE OR TEN YEARS FROM
11:56:32AM NOW.
11:56:33AM THE HARDEST PIECE THAT WE HAVE IS LAND.
11:56:37AM EVEN IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, IF YOU DRIVE OUT EAST AND I
11:56:41AM TOOK A DOWN 301 ON THE MLK HOLIDAY TO GET STRAWBERRIES THAT
11:56:47AM USED TO BE ALL FARMLAND.
11:56:49AM THAT IS ALL DEVELOPED.
11:56:51AM IT IS GONE.
11:56:52AM ESPECIALLY WITHIN THE CITY, AS YOU WELL KNOW, DEFINED
11:56:55AM POCKETS OF LAND TO SET ASIDE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF
11:56:58AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A MOMENT IN THE
11:57:02AM CITY OF TAMPA'S HISTORY THAN NOW WHEN YOU AS OUR LEADERS
11:57:06AM REALLY HAVE TO PUT THAT IN MIND.
11:57:08AM THE MECHANISM AND THERE IS A SEPARATION BETWEEN IDENTIFYING
11:57:13AM THE LAND AND THE MECHANISM TO BUILD THAT LAND.
11:57:16AM WE'RE WORKING REALLY HEAVILY WITH THE FLORIDA HOUSING
11:57:18AM FINANCE CORPORATION WHICH TAKES THE SADOWSKI STATE DOLLARS,

11:57:22AM MORE AND MORE ARE BEING ALLOCATED INTO THE TAMPA BAY METRO
11:57:26AM AREA.
11:57:27AM WE HAVE A $28 MILLION PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON OVER IN TAMPA
11:57:29AM THAT WE WERE JUST AWARDED.
11:57:31AM BUT THE PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IS CRITICAL.
11:57:36AM I THINK NOT JUST BECAUSE OF MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT ALSO I TALKED
11:57:40AM TO DIRECTOR MOODY, WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF
11:57:43AM SARASOTA.
11:57:43AM THE CITY WAS ABLE TO TAKE TWO ADJACENT LOTS AND THE ZONING
11:57:47AM ALLOWED IT.
11:57:48AM YOU'VE GOT TO KIND OF WORK WITH PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TO
11:57:51AM MAKE SURE THAT ZONING ALLOWS IT.
11:57:52AM THEY WERE WILLING TO DONATE TWO LOTS SIDE BY SIDE.
11:57:56AM THE COUNTY WAS WILLING TO GIVE 400 AND CHANGE, 800 AND
11:58:00AM CHANGE IS WHAT I THINK IT'S UP TO NOW AND THEN WE WORK WITH
11:58:03AM PRIVATE DOLLARS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT TEN UNITS
11:58:06AM ON THAT LAND.
11:58:07AM YOU MIGHT THINK TEN UNITS, BIG DEAL.
11:58:10AM IT IS A BIG DEAL.
11:58:11AM BECAUSE MAYBE WE DON'T BUILD BIG PROJECTS.
11:58:13AM MAYBE WE DO TRY TO WORK THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND PUT SMALLER
11:58:17AM COMPLEXES SO WE DON'T BUILD HOUSING PROJECTS THAT BECOME
11:58:21AM PROBLEMATIC FOR BEHAVIOR ISSUES DOWN THE ROAD AND MAYBE IT
11:58:25AM IS THAT SMALL SCALE.
11:58:27AM SO WHEN WE WERE TALKING WITH YOUR STAFF ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES,

11:58:31AM I ALMOST THINK ON SOME LEVEL IT'S BETTER TO MAKE IT SMALLER
11:58:35AM AND MAKE MORE OF THEM AND SCATTER THEM.
11:58:39AM BUT THE RESOURCE AT HAND IS THE LAND AND EVEN IF YOU DON'T
11:58:43AM KNOW HOW TO PUT THE BUILDING UP, TO SECURE THAT LAND, TO
11:58:47AM RESERVE THAT LAND, TO TRUST THAT LAND AND TO SET ASIDE THAT
11:58:50AM LAND, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE, AND THERE ARE OTHERS -- ALSO
11:58:55AM OTHER PROVIDERS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE DYING TO PARTNER
11:58:57AM WITH THE CITY TO PUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THAT LAND.
11:59:01AM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TARGET MARKETS, I THINK IT'S ALSO
11:59:05AM IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THE NUMBER ONE INCREASE IN
11:59:10AM HOMELESSNESS FOR BOTH VETERAN AND CIVILIAN IN OUR COMMUNITY
11:59:14AM IS THE SENIOR CITIZENS.
11:59:15AM WE HAVE MEN AND WOMEN ON THE STREETS IN THEIR 80s THAT
11:59:20AM HAVE BEEN DISPLACED BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING MARKET WITH NO
11:59:24AM PLACE TO GO.
11:59:25AM MAKING 900 TO 1100 PER MONTH IN SOCIAL SECURITY AND WHERE
11:59:28AM ARE YOU GOING TO RENT FOR THAT?
11:59:29AM I THINK THAT THE AGING MARKET IS SOMETHING -- THAT CRITERIA
11:59:35AM IS A CRITICAL PRIORITY FOR US, AND I ALSO THINK THAT 80% AND
11:59:39AM UNDER OF THAT AMI IS CRITICAL.
11:59:42AM AND I AM NOT NEGATING THE FACT THAT EVERY WORKER, PROBABLY
11:59:46AM HALF THE STAFF IN THIS BUILDING ARE RENT BURDEN AND ARE
11:59:49AM STRUGGLING TO MAKE IT.
11:59:51AM BUT THAT PLACE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THE POOREST OF THE POOR,
11:59:56AM WHICH IS THE NICHE ST. VINCENT DE PAUL IS MOST CONCERNED

12:00:00PM ABOUT AND HAVE BEEN FOR 190 YEARS, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
12:00:03PM THAT MARKETPLACE ARE ZERO.
12:00:05PM TO ME, THAT IS THE MOST CRITICAL THING.
12:00:08PM I'LL CLOSE WITH THIS BECAUSE I WAS JUST IN A MEETING WHERE
12:00:11PM THEY WERE DEBATING THE PRIORITIZATION BASED ON AGE.
12:00:16PM THEY SAID THAT 55 WAS ELDERLY AND I WENT NUTS.
12:00:19PM I WAS LIKE AHHH!
12:00:21PM CAN WE AT LEAST MAKE IT 80.
12:00:23PM WE GOT INTO THE WHOLE NEGOTIATION.
12:00:25PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MAGIC NUMBER IS.
12:00:28PM BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT PEOPLE 50 OUT ON THE STREET
12:00:31PM IN HOMELESSNESS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM YOU'LL THINK THEY ARE
12:00:34PM 80 BECAUSE OF WHAT THE HOUSING CRISIS HAS DONE TO THEM AND
12:00:37PM THE PREVAILING HEALTH FACTORS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES
12:00:41PM ALONG WITH IT.
12:00:42PM I KNOW SHE'S HAD TONS OF ACCOLADES, BUT FROM THE COMMUNITY'S
12:00:46PM PERSPECTIVE, IT'S AMAZING TO WORK WITH YOUR STAFF FROM THE
12:00:49PM OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM.
12:00:52PM I ALSO INVITE YOU NEXT TIME YOU'RE DRIVING UP NEBRASKA, TAKE
12:00:57PM A LOOK AT 5109.
12:01:00PM THROUGH A MERGER WE HAD WITH ANOTHER NOT FOR PROFIT HERE IN
12:01:04PM TOWN, WE PICKED UP THE BUILDING.
12:01:05PM WE JUST FINISHED THE RENOVATION, ALMOST FINISHED WITH THE
12:01:08PM RENOVATION.
12:01:09PM FURNITURE GOES IN TOMORROW AND PROBABLY DOING AN OPEN HOUSE.

12:01:11PM RIGHT IN THE HEART OF SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
12:01:14PM I USED TO LIVE ON FRIERSON RIGHT BEHIND THERE.
12:01:18PM WE ARE HEAVILY INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY.
12:01:21PM GRATEFUL TO BE HERE AND GRATEFUL YOU'RE FOCUSING ON THIS,
12:01:23PM PROBABLY AMONG THE BIGGEST SOCIAL ISSUES -- EMERGENCY ISSUES
12:01:27PM FACING US TODAY IS THE HOUSING CRISIS.
12:01:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COMMENTS?
12:01:30PM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
12:01:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
12:01:36PM YOUR PASSION IS ABSOLUTELY EVIDENT.
12:01:39PM I HOPE YOU COME BACK ON FEBRUARY 29 WHEN WE'RE HAVING A
12:01:43PM WORKSHOP ABOUT HOUSING OR JUST TUNE IN BECAUSE THIS IS
12:01:46PM EXACTLY THE KIND OF COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS WE NEED TO BE
12:01:49PM MAKING.
12:01:50PM WE JUST HEARD FROM HIVE LAST WEEK THAT'S FOCUSED ON MEMBERS
12:01:55PM OF THE COMMUNITY WITH DISABILITIES.
12:01:58PM AND WE ARE WORKING I KNOW IN YBOR ON HOUSING FOR ARTISTS.
12:02:03PM EVERY DIFFERENT COMMUNITY WE'RE TRYING TO DO ALL THESE
12:02:07PM DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING.
12:02:08PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FOCUS ON VETERANS.
12:02:13PM THIS COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY, WE HAVE A VERY LARGE POPULATION.
12:02:16PM SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE
12:02:20PM AS A CITY CAN DO THIS, BUT WE ARE COMMITTED.
12:02:24PM WE COMMITTED A LOT OF RESOURCES TO HOUSING AND NOW WE ARE
12:02:27PM ABOUT TO GET A ROAD MAP ON WAYS WE CAN EFFECT THAT CHANGE.

12:02:31PM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
12:02:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
12:02:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:02:37PM I JOIN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IN SALUTING YOUR ENTHUSIASM AND
12:02:43PM YOUR VIGOR, YOUR PASSION.
12:02:44PM I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A BIG FAN OF ST. VINCENT DE PAUL.
12:02:49PM I REMEMBER GOING WITH MY MOM TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, JOE
12:02:54PM LOPANO -- NOT JOE LOPANO -- JOE -- WELL, MY POST-COVID, MY
12:03:05PM MEMORY ISN'T WHAT IT WAS.
12:03:07PM IT WILL COME BACK.
12:03:08PM WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION.
12:03:09PM I THINK OF THE STATEMENT THERE CATHOLIC CHARITIES.
12:03:11PM WE SERVE PEOPLE NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE CATHOLIC BUT WE'RE
12:03:14PM CATHOLIC AND YOU'RE GUIDED BY THAT PRINCIPLE THAT HAS
12:03:17PM SECULAR JUSTIFICATION IN GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS, AS DO YOU TO
12:03:21PM THE LEAST OF THESE THAT YOU DO UNTO ME.
12:03:23PM THAT TO ME IS WHAT ST. VINCENT DE PAUL IS ALL ABOUT.
12:03:27PM I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL.
12:03:29PM THIS IS PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS YOU INDICATED THIS
12:03:32PM IS SOMETHING THAT WAS MOTIONED FOR FOR SPECIFICALLY
12:03:35PM VETERANS.
12:03:36PM YOU MENTIONED OLDER INDIVIDUALS, PERHAPS VIETNAM ERA
12:03:40PM VETERANS, PERHAPS PEOPLE FROM THE 1980s CONFLICTS, PERHAPS
12:03:45PM FOLKS FROM THE GULF WAR ERA.
12:03:47PM WE LIVE IN A UNIQUE TIME WHERE WE'VE HAD 20 STRAIGHT YEARS

12:03:50PM OF DEPLOYMENTS POST SEPTEMBER 11th OF 2001 WITH MEN AND
12:03:54PM WOMEN, SOME OF OUR GREATEST AMERICANS WHO AFTER OUR COUNTRY
12:03:57PM WAS RUTHLESSLY ATTACKED SAID PLEASE SEND ME.
12:04:00PM THEY KNEW THEY WOULD BE SENT TO PLACES LIKE AFGHANISTAN AND
12:04:04PM IRAQ.
12:04:05PM THEY COME HOME AND ALL THEY WANT IS A FAIR DEAL.
12:04:07PM ALL THEY WANT IS A FAIR SHAKE.
12:04:08PM ALL THEY WANT IS RESPECT AND DIGNITY AND EQUITY.
12:04:11PM AND HOUSING IS A PART OF THAT.
12:04:12PM SO I THINK IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
12:04:15PM YOU TALKED ABOUT POST-COVID, JUST THE TREMENDOUS BRUTAL
12:04:21PM IMPACT THAT'S HAD ON OUR WORKING FAMILIES.
12:04:23PM EVERYBODY FROM THE WORKING CLASS, MIDDLE CLASS, PEOPLE
12:04:27PM STRUGGLING HARD TO GET TO THE WORKING CLASS, MIDDLE CLASS,
12:04:30PM WORKING POOR, MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES AND THAT'S HIT OUR
12:04:35PM VETERANS.
12:04:35PM GO ONE DAY, NOT YOU, I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN TO MANY PLACES LIKE
12:04:39PM THIS, GO ONE DAY AND TALK TO PEOPLE IN THE HILLSBOROUGH
12:04:43PM COUNTY 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT COURT VETERANS TREATMENT
12:04:45PM COURT RUN BY COLONEL DJ REYES, WHO MS. MOODY AND I SPOKE
12:04:51PM WITH, DOES SO MUCH ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OUR VETERANS.
12:04:54PM YOU SEE THE HIT THAT THE VETERANS WHO ARE TAKING PART IN
12:04:57PM THAT PROGRAM HAVE TAKEN.
12:04:59PM SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
12:05:04PM BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS COMING FORWARD.

12:05:06PM I KNOW MS. MOODY AND I, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PALIFOX
12:05:12PM STREET PROPERTIES IN EAST TAMPA.
12:05:15PM CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT'S POTENTIALLY
12:05:19PM THERE?
12:05:20PM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. RAPOSA.
12:05:23PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.
12:05:24PM AS I MENTIONED, THE CRA HAS BEEN ASSEMBLING LAND AND WE
12:05:28PM RECENTLY CLOSED ON THE PALIFOX PROPERTY.
12:05:30PM AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A SITE WE LOOK AT AS WELL AS
12:05:34PM OTHER VACANT PROPERTIES.
12:05:35PM BUT REALLY LOOKING AT OUR HOUSING STOCK.
12:05:38PM THIS REALLY JUST SHOWS IT IS THE POWER OF PARTNERSHIP IN THE
12:05:41PM P-3 INITIATIVES THAT WOULD BE NEEDED BECAUSE THE CRA IS ABLE
12:05:44PM TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT HOUSING STOCK OR DONATE THE LAND.
12:05:47PM THAT WOULD BE THE NEED.
12:05:48PM WE WOULD BE LOOKING INTO OUR PROPERTIES TO SEE WHICH ONE
12:05:51PM WOULD BE A GOOD FIT TO DEVELOP POTENTIALLY AN RFP, IF THAT
12:05:55PM IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.
12:05:56PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL MOTION FOR THAT, IF I MAY.
12:05:59PM I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT FOR
12:06:01PM US AND TO HAVE OUR CRA FOCUS ON GROUPS LIKE VETERANS, FOLKS
12:06:07PM WHO ARE ACUTELY AFFECTED BY THE HOUSING CRISIS.
12:06:10PM WE'RE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE ON OUR CRA TEAM, MR. ALIS DRUMGO,
12:06:15PM AN AFGHANISTAN WAR VETERAN AND VERY, VERY PROUD UNITED
12:06:17PM STATES VETERAN.

12:06:18PM I WILL MOTION, IF I MAY, COUNCIL, FOR CRA STAFF TO PRESENT
12:06:24PM AN ACTION PLAN TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR VETERANS ON
12:06:26PM THE AFOREMENTIONED PALIFOX STREET PROPERTY AT THE MAY 9,
12:06:33PM 2024 BOARD MEETING.
12:06:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
12:06:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD DISCUSSION.
12:06:38PM ATTORNEY MASSEY.
12:06:39PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: RELATIVE TO THE DISPOSITION OF ANY LAND
12:06:42PM WITHIN THE CRA, WHETHER IT'S CRA FUNDS OR WHETHER OWNED BY
12:06:49PM THE CITY OUTRIGHT FOR ANY PURPOSE, PARTNER WITH A THIRD
12:06:52PM PARTY, THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH AN RFP BY STATE LAW, JUST SO
12:06:57PM --
12:06:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF THE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS CONCERNS --
12:07:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THAT,
12:07:09PM HONESTLY, WITH THE NEXT ARMY NAVY PLOT AS WELL, WE ARE
12:07:13PM HAVING A HOLISTIC DISCUSSION ON WHAT TO DO WITH HOUSING ON
12:07:18PM FEBRUARY 29th.
12:07:20PM SO I WOULD ACTUALLY ASK THAT WE TAKE ALL OF THESE IDEAS AND
12:07:26PM HOLD THEM UNTIL FEBRUARY 29 BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING WITH A
12:07:29PM ROAD MAP AND KNOWING -- GNAW, I THINK ALL OF US, IT'S
12:07:36PM INCUMBENT ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US AND MAYBE THE HOUSING
12:07:41PM TEAM KNOWS THIS ALREADY, IF WE HAVE IDEAS, TO THROW THEM
12:07:44PM THEIR WAY BEFORE FEBRUARY 29.
12:07:48PM I'M JUST SAYING, EVEN THINKING ABOUT THE ARMY NAVY LOT.
12:07:52PM WE'LL GET THIS DISCUSSION BUT THEN IN A MONTH AND A HALF

12:07:55PM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT TO DO WITH
12:07:58PM ALL OF THIS.
12:08:00PM I JUST THINK WE MAY BE PREMATURE.
12:08:04PM AND I THINK IT'S A PHENOMENAL IDEA.
12:08:06PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S NOT IN DISPUTE.
12:08:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT -- THERE MIGHT BE A
12:08:14PM DIFFERENT ROAD MAP FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS.
12:08:17PM I DON'T WANT TO ADD WORK WHERE THEY MAY HAVE ALREADY DONE
12:08:21PM WORK.
12:08:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT PROPERTY CAME UP IN DISCUSSION WITH OUR
12:08:25PM CRA STAFF.
12:08:27PM IS THAT A PROPERTY THAT COULD BE USEFUL FOR THIS?
12:08:30PM AGAIN, MR. MASSEY HAD HIS NOTES ON THAT.
12:08:33PM >>ERICA MOODY: ABSOLUTELY.
12:08:35PM WE CAN LOOK AT ALL OF OUR VACANT LANDS AND PROPERTIES AND
12:08:38PM SEE WHICH ONE WOULD BE THE BEST FIT.
12:08:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL MOTION THEN FOR CRA STAFF -- AND WE CAN
12:08:45PM DISCUSS THIS AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING, BUT FOR THIS TO COME
12:08:47PM BACK TO US AFTER THAT DISCUSSION ONCE WE PINPOINT AND
12:08:52PM HIGHLIGHT A PROPERTY, WHATEVER IT MAY BE, FOR CRA STAFF TO
12:08:56PM PRESENT AN ACTION PLAN TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR
12:08:58PM VETERANS AT THE MAY 9th, 2024 BOARD MEETING AFTER OUR
12:09:03PM DISCUSSION WHEN WE HAVE MORE SPECIFICITY.
12:09:05PM I'M FINE WITH THAT.
12:09:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU'RE PUTTING A MOTION ON TOP OF A

12:09:09PM MOTION.
12:09:10PM YOU DID CANCEL THE FIRST ONE.
12:09:13PM OKAY.
12:09:14PM THANK YOU.
12:09:15PM IS THERE DISCUSSION?
12:09:16PM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:09:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT AFTER FEBRUARY
12:09:20PM 29.
12:09:23PM ALONG WITH WHAT BOARD MEMBER HURTAK SAID, IN ADDITION TO ALL
12:09:27PM THE OTHER THINGS, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE FUNDING
12:09:29PM MECHANISMS ARE.
12:09:30PM WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT ON THAT DAY.
12:09:32PM BUT WE HAVE PEOPLE ASKING US FOR MONEY AND WE PUT MONEY IN,
12:09:36PM BUT WE NEED TO HAVE AN OBJECTIVE WAY OF OFFERING A
12:09:40PM CONSISTENT AMOUNT ACROSS PROJECTS SOMEHOW.
12:09:42PM I HOPE THAT BY THE END OF FEBRUARY 29 WE'LL HAVE THAT.
12:09:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:09:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS SECONDING HIS MOTION.
12:09:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. DRUMGO, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
12:09:53PM >>ALIS DRUMGO: I'M FINE.
12:09:55PM THANK YOU.
12:09:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:09:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON COUNCILMAN VIERA'S INITIAL MOTION,
12:10:01PM WHICH HE WITHDREW BUT ALSO ON THIS POINT, KIND OF ECHOING ON
12:10:06PM WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID, WHAT WE DO AS CRA BOARD

12:10:10PM MEMBERS AND ALSO CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M ALWAYS THESE
12:10:16PM PIECEMEAL THINGS WE DO ARE BOTHERSOME OR WORRISOME TO ME.
12:10:20PM I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE EVERY ONE OF OUR ACTIONS, MORE
12:10:25PM OF A COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW AND PLAN OF HOW WE'RE SPENDING
12:10:31PM TAXPAYER MONEY.
12:10:32PM I THINK THE FINANCING IS A KEY ELEMENT IN THAT.
12:10:35PM REALLY DOING A LARGE-SCALE ASSESSMENT OF OUR RESOURCES, OUR
12:10:40PM HOLDINGS, AND RECOGNIZING WHAT THE BEST USE OF EACH ONE OF
12:10:43PM THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES ARE.
12:10:44PM AND I THINK PART -- MAYBE I THINK A MOTION WOULD BE BETTER
12:10:50PM TO ASK THE STAFF FOR THAT TYPE OF ACTION AND REPORT TO BRING
12:10:55PM TO US ON THE 29th WHEN WE HAVE AN ASSESSMENT AND
12:10:59PM RECOMMENDATIONS ON SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES BECAUSE THEY CAN
12:11:02PM DO THE HOMEWORK AND A LOT OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING.
12:11:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG THE SAME QUESTION IN MY MIND, DO WE
12:11:11PM HAVE A CONSENSUS AND UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
12:11:14PM HOMELESSNESS, NO MATTER IF IT IS A VETERAN OR SOMEONE, DO WE
12:11:17PM HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHO THEY ARE AND HOW LONG DO THEY
12:11:22PM COME FROM THE COMMUNITY FIRST AND DO THEY COME FROM THE
12:11:25PM NORTH BECAUSE OF COLD WEATHER?
12:11:26PM DO WE HAVE ALL THAT?
12:11:27PM IN OTHER WORDS, WHO DO WE TAKE CARE OF FIRST?
12:11:30PM THE ONES HERE BEFORE OR THE ONES MOVING IN?
12:11:33PM WE CAN'T TAKE ALL OF THEM, I DON'T THINK.
12:11:35PM I'VE GOT TO FIND OUT, I WISH WE COULD, BUT WE'RE NOT THE

12:11:40PM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
12:11:41PM CAN'T WRITE A CHECK AND SAY, HEY, LET IT RIDE.
12:11:45PM >> THAT GETS COMPLICATED.
12:11:47PM THAT GETS REALLY COMPLICATED UNDER FAIR HOUSING.
12:11:52PM I WILL TELL YOU THAT ACCORDING TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, IF
12:11:57PM AN INDIVIDUAL SPENDS THE NIGHT LAST NIGHT ON FRANKLIN STREET
12:12:01PM MALL, THEY ARE NOW TAMPA'S.
12:12:03PM IF TOMORROW NIGHT THEY SPEND THE NIGHT IN ST. PETERSBURG,
12:12:09PM THEY BECOME ST. PETERSBURG'S.
12:12:10PM AND THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE.
12:12:12PM I'LL GIVE YOU COMFORT IN THIS, GIVE YOU COMFORT IN THIS
12:12:16PM BECAUSE ALWAYS A MISNOMER OUT THERE THAT THE PEOPLE IN OUR
12:12:19PM COMMUNITY ARE NOT OURS.
12:12:21PM ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASK AT INTAKE IS WHERE YOU WENT TO
12:12:25PM GRAMMAR SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL.
12:12:26PM 99% OF OUR CASELOAD WENT TO SCHOOL IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
12:12:30PM SCHOOLS.
12:12:30PM YOU CAN'T SCREEN OUT BASED ON THAT BECAUSE OF FAIR HOUSING.
12:12:38PM MEMBER MIRANDA, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE PEOPLE OF THIS
12:12:41PM COMMUNITY ARE IN DESPERATE NEED AND THEY ARE COMING FORWARD
12:12:45PM IN DESPERATE NEED.
12:12:48PM THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM WENT TO GRAMMAR SCHOOL AND HIGH
12:12:52PM SCHOOL HERE IN THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SCHOOL SYSTEM.
12:12:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ATTORNEY MASSEY.
12:12:56PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.

12:12:59PM MR. RAPOSA IS CORRECT.
12:13:01PM WE'RE SUBJECT TO THE FAIR HOUSING LAWS AND CANNOT
12:13:04PM DISCRIMINATE --
12:13:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO CLEAR IT NOW.
12:13:07PM FIND OUT WHERE WE ARE AT.
12:13:09PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: SECONDLY, RELATIVE TO -- AND WE CAN TIE
12:13:12PM FURTHER DISCUSSION ON FEBRUARY 29, PROBABLY WHERE IT SHOULD
12:13:15PM OCCUR, BUT WHEN THE CRA EXPENDS MONEY TO PURCHASE LAND, WE
12:13:19PM TYPICALLY IDENTIFY THE PURPOSE FOR WHICH WE'RE ACQUIRING THE
12:13:23PM PROPERTY AND HAS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATE LAW AND THE
12:13:26PM COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN IN THAT AREA FOR WHICH WE HAVE
12:13:28PM ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY.
12:13:30PM SO IF WE GO FORTH AND DISPOSE OF THAT LAND, WE PARTNER WITH
12:13:35PM A NOT-FOR-PROFIT OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING ENTITY, IT NEEDS TO
12:13:39PM BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSE FROM WHICH WE ACQUIRE THE
12:13:43PM PROPERTY.
12:13:43PM ANY RFP WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHY WE USED CRA
12:13:51PM FUNDS TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
12:13:52PM I THINK PART OF THE DISCUSSION PROBABLY COME FORTH ON THE
12:13:56PM 29th, WHAT IS THE BEST VEHICLE FOR COMING UP WITH A MORE
12:13:59PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT, WHETHER
12:14:02PM PARTNERING WITH OTHER THIRD-PARTY DEVELOPERS THAT WILL
12:14:05PM DEVELOP THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH THE
12:14:08PM VEHICLE OF THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST POTENTIALLY.
12:14:10PM THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THIS SO DIFFERENT STRATEGIES.

12:14:13PM THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION COMING FORWARD ON THE
12:14:15PM 29th.
12:14:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
12:14:18PM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
12:14:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:14:21PM GOING BACK TO THE CDC, I GOT TO TOUR THE NEW BLUE SKY
12:14:28PM DEVELOPMENT THAT'S JUST NORTH OF FLETCHER.
12:14:36PM >>ERICA MOODY: UP TOWN SKY.
12:14:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT HE SAID IT COST TO
12:14:40PM BUILD THAT, BUT IT WAS INSANELY CHEAP IN MY MIND
12:14:44PM COMPARATIVELY TO SOME OF THE THINGS, WAS IT 16 MILLION?
12:14:48PM >>ERICA MOODY: THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT WAS ABOUT 16 MILLION.
12:14:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 16 MILLION.
12:14:52PM THAT WAS IT.
12:14:54PM I KNOW THAT'S STILL A LOT OF MONEY, BUT SOMEBODY CAME TO US
12:14:57PM AT THE LAST MEETING ASKING FOR 15 MILLION FOR 25 UNITS FOR
12:15:01PM 20 YEARS.
12:15:01PM THIS WAS 61 UNITS, SOME OF THEM THREE BEDROOMS IN
12:15:06PM PERPETUITY.
12:15:07PM WE DEFINITELY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AS LONG AS WE HAVE THAT
12:15:10PM LAND.
12:15:11PM THAT'S WHY I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS WORKSHOP ON THE 29th.
12:15:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD
12:15:18PM MEMBER VIERA, A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:15:21PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?

12:15:22PM OPPOSED?
12:15:23PM MOTION CARRIES.
12:15:25PM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
12:15:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO IN LIGHT OF THAT, AND I'M ASKING
12:15:33PM EVERYBODY'S OPINION HERE, DO WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT
12:15:36PM THE ARMY NAVY LOT TODAY OR DO WE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION
12:15:42PM AFTER THE FEBRUARY 29th WORKSHOP?
12:15:44PM I'M ASKING FOR YOUR EDUCATED OPINION.
12:15:50PM >>ERICA MOODY: YES.
12:15:52PM I CAN INVITE DIRECTOR BENSON TO COME UP AND SPEAK ON IT TOO.
12:15:56PM I BELIEVE THERE IS AN RFP BEING DRAFTED THAT IS ON A TIME --
12:16:01PM I KNOW THIS IS ALREADY IN MOTION.
12:16:03PM HE CAN SPEAK DIRECTLY TO IT.
12:16:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN NEVER MIND.
12:16:06PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BOARD MEMBERS.
12:16:08PM WE ARE PREPARED TO PROVIDE YOU AN UPDATE TODAY.
12:16:11PM WE KNOW TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THIS
12:16:14PM COMES BEFORE YOU.
12:16:15PM BUT WE ARE OPEN EARS IN TERMS OF AS THIS MOVES FORWARD AND
12:16:21PM OTHER DISCUSSIONS MOVE FORWARD REGARDING HOUSING TO MAKE
12:16:23PM SURE THIS CONTINUES TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE VISION YOU
12:16:26PM HAVE FOR HOW YOU WANT IT TO BE IMPLEMENTED. IF I CAN GO
12:16:32PM AHEAD AND KICK IT OFF, I WANT TO INTRODUCE --
12:16:35PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE'RE PAST THE NOON HOUR.
12:16:38PM DO WE WANT TO CONTINUE?

12:16:38PM PROBABLY NEED A MOTION TO CONTINUE IF YOU ALL WANT TO
12:16:42PM CONTINUE OR DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A BREAK?
12:16:44PM IT'S 12:15.
12:16:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU WANTED TO, WE COULD SIMPLY APPROVE THE
12:16:51PM REQUIRED APPROVALS.
12:16:52PM I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO TAKE MUCH TO APPROVE THE
12:16:54PM LICENSING AGREEMENT.
12:16:55PM I THINK THIS IS IT.
12:16:57PM I'M HAPPY TO STAY.
12:17:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: [INAUDIBLE]
12:17:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE BUT I ALSO THINK
12:17:09PM WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS WITH RESPECT TO THE PEOPLE WHO PUT
12:17:13PM TOGETHER THE PRESENTATION.
12:17:14PM ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD SAY AT THE END OF IT IF WE GO
12:17:17PM THROUGH IT, I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE CITY PROJECTS OR CRA
12:17:20PM PROJECTS, IF BOTH HAVE BUREAUCRACY, SOME ARE THE SAME, BUT
12:17:25PM IF WE HAVE CRA PROJECT AND CITY PROJECT, IT CREATES AN
12:17:28PM ADDITIONAL LAYER OF BUREAUCRACY THAT WE DON'T NEED.
12:17:30PM MY SUGGESTION IN THIS IS THAT WE GIVE THE PROPERTY TO THE
12:17:35PM CITY OR THAT THE CRA -- AND THEN THE CITY CAN RUN IT WITHOUT
12:17:40PM BEING ENCUMBERED.
12:17:41PM WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE TWICE AS CRA BOARD AND CITY.
12:17:44PM THE CITY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
12:17:46PM THE SECOND OPTION IS THAT THE CRA BUY THE OTHER LAND FROM
12:17:51PM THE CITY AND THEN THE CRA RUN THE PROJECT.

12:17:54PM IF THE CRA BUYS THE LAND FROM THE CITY, THEN THE CITY CAN
12:17:57PM TAKE THAT MONEY, THE PROCEEDS FROM THE LAND AND USE IT FOR
12:18:00PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY.
12:18:02PM BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE A PROJECT THAT'S EITHER CITY OR
12:18:06PM CRA.
12:18:07PM I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE COMBINED.
12:18:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS JUST A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE
12:18:10PM POSSIBILITIES TODAY.
12:18:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: THEY ARE ALREADY GOING FORWARD WITH AN RFP.
12:18:15PM ALL WE KNOW ABOUT IS THE PROJECT IN CONCEPT.
12:18:18PM I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CRA CAN PARTICIPATE IN RFP IF WE'RE NOT
12:18:22PM TAKING THE LEAD ON IT.
12:18:23PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING.
12:18:25PM ALL OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS OWNED IN THE
12:18:28PM NAME OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:18:30PM NONE IS OWNED IN THE NAME OF THE CRA.
12:18:32PM CRA FUNDS WERE USED TO ACQUIRE SOME OF THIS PROPERTY.
12:18:36PM AS A RESULT, IF THAT PROPERTY IS INCLUDED IN WHATEVER
12:18:41PM PROPOSAL OR PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD, UNDER THE AGREEMENT
12:18:44PM THAT'S BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE CRA, YOU ALL HAVE INPUT IN
12:18:46PM THE RFP AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
12:18:49PM I THINK THAT'S MAYBE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS IS COMING
12:18:51PM FORWARD.
12:18:52PM IF YOU WANT TO DELAY IT UNTIL AFTER THE 29th, THAT'S
12:18:56PM SOMETHING WE CAN TALK ABOUT.

12:18:57PM >> IF I MAY, THE BUREAUCRACY ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE YOU ASKED
12:19:08PM FOR IT TO.
12:19:08PM YOU ASKED FOR THESE THINGS TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU.
12:19:10PM IT'S COLLABORATIVE.
12:19:12PM WE ARE ACTUALLY PURSUING PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN THE STATED
12:19:18PM PURPOSES OF THE CRA AND EXIST WITHIN THE CRA.
12:19:20PM THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
12:19:21PM I KNOW THERE ARE TIMES AT WHICH WE WANT TO SEPARATE OUT THE
12:19:24PM TWO THINGS, BUT THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SOMETHING
12:19:31PM THIS BOARD TALKED ABOUT, STATED GOAL OF THE ADMINISTRATION,
12:19:34PM COLLECTIVELY, AS WE TRY TO PURSUE OPTIONS FOR THE CITIZENS,
12:19:37PM WE GO OUT AND WE MAKE THE ACQUISITIONS.
12:19:40PM STAFF HAS WORKED DILIGENTLY ON THIS FOR SOME TIME TO PULL
12:19:48PM TOGETHER A REAL PRESENTATION TO SHARE WITH YOU, THE
12:19:50PM OPPORTUNITY IN FRONT OF YOU AS A CRA BOARD AND AS A CITY
12:19:53PM COUNCIL.
12:19:54PM THAT'S REALLY WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
12:19:56PM WE WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO STOP EVERYTHING UNTIL THE
12:20:00PM 29th, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT IT TAKES TIME FOR OUR
12:20:04PM PROCUREMENT TEAM TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS, FOR OUR LEGAL TEAM
12:20:08PM TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTS.
12:20:10PM THE LONGER WE SIT ON PROJECTS, IT IS THE LONGER IT TAKES FOR
12:20:13PM US TO GET, AND THEN WE'RE SUBJECT TO ALL THE OTHER MARKET
12:20:17PM CONDITIONS AND FORCES THAT MAY PREVENT US FROM GETTING
12:20:20PM PROJECTS OUT OF THE GROUND.

12:20:21PM THE MORE WE CONTINUE TO PUSH THESE THINGS OUT, THE MORE TIME
12:20:25PM IT WILL TAKE.
12:20:25PM I WANT TO PREFACE THAT BEFORE THE BOARD MAKES THE DECISION.
12:20:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION TO CONTINUE OR KEEP THE AGENDA AS
12:20:38PM IS?
12:20:38PM LET'S GO.
12:20:39PM >>ERICA MOODY: WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ITEM.
12:20:42PM WE DO HAVE SOME OF OUR CITY PARTNERS HERE.
12:20:44PM DIRECTOR STEPHEN BENSON WITH CITY PLANNING AND MICHELLE
12:20:48PM BOONE, THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTATIVE.
12:20:51PM IF T AND I CAN PULL UP THE PRESENTATION FOR THE ARMY NAVY.
12:20:55PM THANK YOU.
12:20:56PM >>STEPHEN BENSON: I'LL INTRODUCE EVAN JOHNSON WHO WILL BE
12:21:06PM GIVING THE PRESENTATION.
12:21:07PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD.
12:21:08PM EVAN JOHNSON, CITY PLANNING.
12:21:15PM AS MENTIONED, I'LL WALK THROUGH BASICALLY A BRIEFING
12:21:20PM PRESENTATION ON WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THE RFP AND OFFER
12:21:24PM HOPEFULLY SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT YOU
12:21:27PM ALL HAVE BEEN BOUNCING AROUND AS WELL AS WHAT WE TALKED
12:21:30PM ABOUT INTERNALLY.
12:21:32PM WITH THAT, WE KNOW GENERALLY THIS AREA, BUT LITTLE
12:21:35PM BACKGROUND FOR THE AUDIENCE WATCHING ON TV, THIS IS
12:21:39PM PRIMARILY THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
12:21:41PM NORTHWEST PORTION OF DOWNTOWN.

12:21:42PM CALL IT ORANGE AVENUE ON THE EAST, I-275 ON THE NORTH, RIVER
12:21:47PM ON THE WEST AND CASS GENERALLY ON THE SOUTH KIND OF
12:21:49PM REPRESENTS THIS AREA.
12:21:52PM A LOT OF INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THIS, LET ALONE THE FACT
12:21:54PM THAT THE CITY AND CRA OWN A DECENT AMOUNT OF PROPERTY, ALSO
12:21:58PM PUBLIC STAKEHOLDERS IN THE AREA AND POTENTIAL PARTNERS,
12:22:01PM REALLY HAVE A LOT OF LEVERAGE MOVING FORWARD TO SEE A VISION
12:22:04PM IN THIS AREA OCCUR.
12:22:07PM THINKING OF LIKE HART OWNS MARION STREET, D.O.T. OWNS
12:22:10PM PROPERTY AS WELL.
12:22:11PM I DO THINK THIS IS A REALLY INTERESTING PLACE FOR US TO HAVE
12:22:18PM AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACT AS IMPETUS FOR QUALITY DEVELOPMENT
12:22:22PM MOVING FORWARD.
12:22:23PM THE SITE IS IN WHITE.
12:22:25PM FOUR ACRES GIVE OR TAKE.
12:22:27PM CRA OWNERSHIP OF THE MONEY THAT WAS USED WAS FOR THE ARMY
12:22:31PM NAVY ABOUT .6 ACRES CURRENTLY.
12:22:34PM ALSO THE BILLBOARD SITE IMMEDIATELY ABUTTING RIGHT IN THE
12:22:37PM MIDDLE.
12:22:37PM THAT IS THE ARMY NAVY AND THE BILLBOARD SITE.
12:22:41PM ABOUT THREE-QUARTERS OF AN ACRE TOTAL.
12:22:43PM IT REPRESENTS THAT PORTION OF THE SITE.
12:22:46PM THIS IS IN THE CBD, THE ONLY AREA IN THE ENTIRE CITY THAT
12:22:50PM DOESN'T HAVE ANY INTENSITY AND DENSITY CAPS.
12:22:53PM ASSUMING YOU CAN MEET THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITHIN

12:22:57PM THE CODE, YOU ARE NOT RESTRICTED BY YOUR UNITS PER ACRE OR
12:23:02PM YOUR FLOOR AREA RATIO.
12:23:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: CLARIFYING QUESTION.
12:23:06PM THIS SLIDE CONFUSED ME WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT IT BECAUSE IT
12:23:12PM SAYS CITY AND CRA OWNERSHIP.
12:23:14PM BUT MORRIS JUST TOLD US THE CITY OWNS ALL OF IT.
12:23:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: [INAUDIBLE]
12:23:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: FROM A TITLE POINT OF VIEW, THE CITY OWNS
12:23:23PM ALL OF IT.
12:23:24PM THE CITY COULD DEVELOP THIS LAND WITHOUT CRA APPROVAL,
12:23:27PM RIGHT?
12:23:27PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WELL, IF THE LAND IS PURCHASED WITH CRA
12:23:30PM DOLLARS, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT IS TITLED IN THE CITY OR
12:23:34PM THE CRA, THE CRA APPROVAL OF THE LAND IS REQUIRED.
12:23:39PM ALSO HAS TO BE USED FOR A PURPOSE THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH
12:23:42PM THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN BECAUSE IT IS PURCHASED FOR
12:23:46PM COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.
12:23:48PM SO WE DO HAVE -- THIS BOARD -- THE LAND IS CONTAINED OR PART
12:23:53PM OF THE PROJECT, THIS BOARD DOES HAVE A SAY-SO IN HOW IT'S
12:23:57PM DEVELOPED AND DISPOSED.
12:23:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE'LL TALK OFF-LINE BUT WE COULD CONVEY FOR
12:24:03PM THIS PURPOSE AND THEN THE CRA IS OUT OF IT AND THE CITY
12:24:06PM COULD IMPLEMENT.
12:24:07PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF YOU WANT THE CRA TOTALLY REMOVED FROM
12:24:11PM THIS, THE ONLY WAY THIS WOULD HAPPEN, IT WOULD BE THE CITY

12:24:15PM WOULD HAVE TO AGREE TO THIS AND THE CITY WOULD BASICALLY
12:24:18PM HAVE TO BUY THE CRA OUT AND BASICALLY REFUND THE CRA THAT
12:24:22PM MONEY, WHICH I DON'T THINK WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET AT THIS
12:24:25PM POINT IN TIME.
12:24:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: [INAUDIBLE]
12:24:38PM PROCEED.
12:24:39PM THANK YOU.
12:24:41PM >> IN THIS AREA, WE TALKED ABOUT THE DENSITIES AND
12:24:43PM INTENSITIES.
12:24:44PM NOW, WHAT IS IN THE CODE VERY MUCH DOES DIRECT THE LOOK, THE
12:24:50PM FORM, THE HEIGHT OF THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
12:24:53PM THE CBD ZONING IS ACTUALLY UNIQUE WITHIN THE CITY IN THAT
12:24:56PM THERE IS A VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT ON ANY GIVEN STREET AS
12:24:59PM TO THE SIDEWALK WIDTH, THE STREETSCAPE, THE LOOK, THE FEEL
12:25:02PM THAT IS REQUIRED.
12:25:04PM I THINK THERE'S EVEN CONCRETE PATTERNS AS WELL ON THE
12:25:07PM SIDEWALKS THEMSELVES.
12:25:08PM HEIGHT IS THE OTHER BIG ISSUE DOWNTOWN.
12:25:11PM I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLICK OVER TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
12:25:13PM DOWNTOWN IS COVERED BECAUSE OF PETER O. KNIGHT AIRPORT.
12:25:17PM AS FAR AS HAVING HEIGHT ZONING.
12:25:20PM THIS IS AN AREA OF 130 FEET ABOVE MEAN SEA LEVEL, HOWEVER,
12:25:24PM IT'S DOWNTOWN.
12:25:25PM EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT CAN BE -- THEY GO THROUGH AN
12:25:29PM APPLICATION PROCESS WITH THE AVIATION AUTHORITY AND FAA.

12:25:33PM 130, YOU CAN DO 10-FOOT PROJECT WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH
12:25:36PM THAT EXTRA APPROVAL.
12:25:37PM MOST LIKELY THIS IS AN OPTION IF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM COMES
12:25:42PM IN WANTING TO DO THAT.
12:25:45PM JUST A COUPLE OF CONTEXT PICTURES, FOR YOU ALL AND THOSE
12:25:49PM WATCHING ON TV, ONE OF THE BIG INTERESTING THINGS HAPPENING
12:25:53PM IN THIS AREA, RIGHT -- THIS IS THE RECONFIGURATION OF THE
12:25:59PM ASHLEY DRIVE ON RAMP AND OFF RAMP STRUCTURE.
12:26:03PM WHAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN PURPLE HERE IS ESSENTIALLY THE CITY
12:26:08PM RIGHT-OF-WAY ALONG ASHLEY DRIVE LEADING UP TO THE
12:26:13PM INTERSTATE.
12:26:13PM THIS IS EVERYTHING GENERALLY SOUTH OF LAUREL STREET IS
12:26:16PM WITHIN THE CITY RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:26:18PM WE RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO REDESIGN
12:26:22PM AND RECONFIGURE THIS.
12:26:24PM IN THEORY, AND WE HAVE BROUGHT MOBILITY HERE TO ANSWER
12:26:27PM SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT THE IDEA HERE IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO
12:26:29PM DO A BETTER JOB OF BRINGING THE ROADWAY DOWN FASTER IN A WAY
12:26:34PM THAT HELPS US MAKE MORE EAST-WEST CONNECTIVITY WITHIN THIS
12:26:38PM AREA.
12:26:38PM THINK ABOUT PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, THE GRID BASICALLY
12:26:41PM BEING RECONNECTED HERE.
12:26:43PM THIS IS THE PROXIMITY TO THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:26:49PM AS YOU CAN SEE WITH YOUR ARMY NAVY BEING IN THE MIDDLE.
12:26:54PM THESE ARE IMAGES FROM FLORIDA AVENUE LOOKING NORTH AND

12:26:57PM SOUTH.
12:26:57PM NOW, WE SHOW THIS AS POTENTIAL STREETCAR EXTENSION RUNNING
12:27:03PM DOWN FLORIDA AVENUE.
12:27:05PM IF THAT LOOP IS IMPLEMENTED.
12:27:07PM HOWEVER, IT'S ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS
12:27:12PM PARTICULAR LOCATION AT ROYAL STREET ON FLORIDA IS A LOCATION
12:27:16PM FOR THE STATION OF THE PROPOSED BRT AS WELL.
12:27:18PM AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RFP,
12:27:23PM WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HART.
12:27:26PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THESE PROPOSALS COME IN THAT
12:27:29PM LANGUAGE IS INCLUDED, AT LEAST MAKE SURE THAT THE
12:27:31PM APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF SPACE, DESIGN, WHATEVER IT MAY BE THAT
12:27:36PM IS NEEDED FOR THOSE TRANSIT FACILITIES IS INCLUDED IN THE
12:27:40PM CONCEPT DESIGN MOVING FORWARD.
12:27:41PM IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE, YOU CERTAINLY KNOW THIS ALREADY.
12:27:47PM THIS IS A VERY LARGE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
12:27:50PM GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 200 FEET.
12:27:52PM THE ROYAL LOT IS ON THE RIGHT WHICH IS THE SOUTHERNMOST
12:28:00PM PORTION OF THE AREA.
12:28:01PM THERE IS A VERY LARGE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND A LOT OF WORK TO BE
12:28:04PM DONE IN DESIGN AND COORDINATION AND I'M SURE MOBILITY CAN
12:28:08PM SPEAK A LITTLE BIT TO THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
12:28:10PM ONE MORE MOBILITY ORIENTED SLIDE.
12:28:14PM I REALLY AM GLAD WE BROUGHT THEM.
12:28:18PM ON THE LEFT YOU HAVE YOUR EXISTING CONDITION.

12:28:20PM ON THE RIGHT IS A GENERAL CONCEPT OF HOW WE MAY BLOCK IT OUT
12:28:24PM OR WISH TO HAVE IT BLOCKED OUT AND BROKEN IN NORTH TO SOUTH.
12:28:27PM HERE YOU'VE GOT A NEW CONNECTION ON THE SOUTH END, WHICH IS
12:28:31PM HARRISON.
12:28:32PM THIS WOULD BE PART OF THAT RECONFIGURATION.
12:28:35PM HARRISON WOULD HELP CONNECT EAST-WEST AS WELL.
12:28:37PM TO THE NORTH IS RECONFIGURED LAUREL STREET.
12:28:40PM RIGHT NOW KIND OF DIAGONAL.
12:28:43PM THIS COULD BE STRAIGHTENED OUT FOR IMPROVED TRANSIT AS WELL
12:28:48PM AS CREATING A MORE SQUARE, RECTANGULAR LOT ITSELF.
12:28:52PM WE'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS INTERNALLY.
12:28:55PM WE LISTENED TO YOUR CONVERSATION IN THE DECEMBER MEETING
12:28:59PM REGARDING POTENTIAL IDEAS, PUBLIC BENEFITS TO BE INCLUDED OR
12:29:03PM RECOGNIZED WITHIN THE RFP.
12:29:05PM OBVIOUSLY, RESIDENTIAL, WE'VE SEEN THIS AS A RESIDENTIAL
12:29:09PM DRIVEN PROJECT.
12:29:10PM AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, WHAT
12:29:13PM ARE WE GOING TO REQUIRE VERSUS ASKING FOR COMMUNITY SERVING
12:29:22PM USES.
12:29:22PM THAT COULD BE SPACE FOR COMMUNITY ROOMS.
12:29:25PM SPECIFIC SPACE FOR SERVICES THAT MAY BE NEEDED BY RESIDENTS,
12:29:27PM PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE THINKING LOWER MIDDLE INCOME
12:29:30PM RESIDENTS WHO MAY NEED ACCESS TO CERTAIN TYPES OF SERVICES.
12:29:33PM I KNOW YOU ALL CONVERSED ABOUT ARTS AND ART SUPPORT SPACE AS
12:29:37PM WELL.

12:29:38PM RETAIL COMMERCIAL.
12:29:39PM WE DO THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT.
12:29:44PM MOBILITY TRANSIT, ALREADY SPOKE TO THAT.
12:29:46PM PUBLIC REALM, JUST MEANING STREETSCAPE, PUBLIC.
12:29:51PM I HEARD ABOUT HERMAN MASSEY EARLIER, WHICH I THINK WILL BE A
12:29:54PM FANTASTIC ADDITION NEARBY, AS FAR AS A NICE PARK NEARBY, LET
12:29:59PM ALONE ALL THE RIVERWALK AND EVERYTHING ON THE WEST SIDE TO
12:30:01PM THIS PROJECT.
12:30:02PM I WANTED TO DIP A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO HOUSING, WHICH I KNOW
12:30:02PM IS -- WE ALSO HAVE MICHELLE HERE FROM HOUSING AND COMMUNITY
12:30:02PM DEVELOPMENT.
12:30:15PM WE KIND OF THOUGHT OF THIS AS A 600 TO A THOUSAND UNITS OF
12:30:18PM RESIDENTIAL TOTAL, WHICH BASICALLY WORKS OUT TO 200, 250
12:30:21PM UNITS AN ACRE, WHICH IS NOT BEYOND THE POSSIBILITIES IN
12:30:26PM DOWNTOWN AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN RECENT YEARS.
12:30:28PM THESE ARE ALL MINIMUMS THAT WE'RE THINKING OF RIGHT NOW AND
12:30:35PM HAVING DISCUSSIONS ABOUT INTERNALLY.
12:30:36PM BUT 80% AMI AND BELOW WOULD BE THE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT WE
12:30:41PM WOULD BE TARGETING.
12:30:42PM AT LEAST 10% AND THOSE WOULD BE IN PERPETUITY.
12:30:48PM 99-YEAR GROUND LEASE WOULD BE A WAY TO DO THAT.
12:30:51PM AT LEAST 10% SET ASIDE.
12:30:53PM ANYWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TALKING CLOSE TO A HUNDRED
12:30:56PM UNITS DEPENDING ON HOW BIG THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF IS.
12:31:01PM ULTIMATELY, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE AS DEVELOPMENT TEAMS COME

12:31:04PM IN, AGAIN, THESE ARE MINIMUMS, BUT AS DEVELOPMENT TEAMS COME
12:31:08PM IN, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE IS SOME ASSUMPTION BEING
12:31:11PM MADE ABOUT ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR
12:31:13PM INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, OTHERWISE, THESE THINGS ARE BEING
12:31:16PM BROUGHT TO ATTENTION EARLY ON, SO THOSE ARE PARTS OF THE
12:31:20PM CONVERSATION AS WELL.
12:31:20PM SO THAT'S WHAT THE LAST BULLET IS REFERRING TO.
12:31:23PM AS FAR AS NEXT STEPS, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.
12:31:29PM WE DO HAVE THE FEBRUARY 29th PRESENTATION OR
12:31:31PM PRESENTATIONS, I'M SURE.
12:31:33PM IT WILL BE A DAYLONG CONVERSATION ABOUT HOUSING.
12:31:36PM WE WANT TO INTEGRATE THAT FEEDBACK, INTEGRATING FEEDBACK IN
12:31:40PM DISCUSSION TODAY AND GO THROUGH THE ADVERTISEMENT PROCESS.
12:31:42PM THE WAY THE PROCESS IS LAID OUT IS I BELIEVE AND I DEFER TO
12:31:46PM LEGAL FOR DETAILS, BUT I BELIEVE WE WOULD COME BACK FOR CITY
12:31:49PM COUNCIL APPROVAL ON CONTRACTS ONCE THAT RFP PROCESS, THE
12:31:55PM REVIEW HAS BEEN DONE.
12:31:57PM I BELIEVE HOW WE'LL DO IT.
12:31:58PM MR. MASSEY, IF THERE'S ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
12:32:01PM WITH THAT, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE MICHELLE FROM HOUSING AND
12:32:04PM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
12:32:05PM MR. BRANDON CAMPBELL FROM MOBILITY AND WE'RE ALL HERE TO
12:32:08PM ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
12:32:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND BOARD MEMBER
12:32:12PM HURTAK AND BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.

12:32:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS ON THE BOARD, WE
12:32:18PM TALKED ABOUT SETTING ASIDE THE CONSERVATORY AT THE STRAZ.
12:32:29PM ARE YOU INCORPORATING THIS IN?
12:32:31PM >> CURRENTLY, WE WANT TO HAVE ENOUGH SPECIFICITY TO ALLOW
12:32:36PM FOR GUIDANCE BUT ALSO BE CREATIVE.
12:32:38PM WE DON'T WANT TO SAY YOU MUST HAVE X NUMBER OF UNITS FOR
12:32:42PM EVERYTHING.
12:32:42PM WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF THAT IS SOMETHING WE'VE GOT A
12:32:46PM DISCUSSION ABOUT HOUSING, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT TYPES
12:32:48PM OF HOUSING THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED, THAT IS CERTAINLY
12:32:52PM SOMETHING WE COULD TALK ABOUT PUTTING IN AS A POTENTIAL.
12:32:56PM BUT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SAY, TO THIS POINT WE HAVEN'T SAID
12:33:00PM WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE YOU SET ASIDE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF
12:33:03PM UNITS FOR A CONSERVATORY.
12:33:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THERE WAS CONSENSUS IT WAS A GOOD
12:33:07PM IDEA ONE IS BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY FROM THE STRAZ CENTER
12:33:11PM WITH THE REALIGNMENT OF ASHLEY STREET AND THEN AGAIN WE TALK
12:33:15PM ABOUT THE MIXED AGE GROUP AS WE'RE DEVELOPING THIS, IT
12:33:20PM PROVIDES A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS ELEMENT IN THAT
12:33:24PM AREA.
12:33:25PM I KNOW THE STRAZ HAS BEEN ASKING FOR THAT.
12:33:30PM I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY A BIG MISSED OPPORTUNITY IF WE
12:33:33PM DON'T INCORPORATE THAT IN.
12:33:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:33:38PM CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE?

12:33:40PM >> YES, OF COURSE.
12:33:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A THOUSAND UNITS, LIKE, I'M SORRY, A THOUSAND
12:33:46PM UNITS, PUSH THE ENVELOPE.
12:33:48PM >> NOT ENOUGH.
12:33:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, IT'S NOT ENOUGH.
12:33:51PM PRIORITIZING AS MANY UNITS, THIS IS THE ONLY SPACE IN THE
12:33:55PM CITY WHERE WE CAN JUST LIKE KEEP GOING.
12:33:58PM SO WE SHOULD DO IT.
12:34:00PM WE SHOULD GET THAT WAIVER FROM THE FAA.
12:34:03PM WE SHOULD DO WHATEVER IT TAKES.
12:34:06PM BUT WHAT I'M CONFUSED ABOUT HERE IS YOU SAID THE TARGET IS
12:34:09PM 80% AMI AND BELOW, BUT ONLY A SET-ASIDE OF 10%?
12:34:15PM >> THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE GENERALLY DONE WITH
12:34:19PM DEVELOPMENTS IN DOWNTOWN AND FOR THE BONUS PARTIES.
12:34:23PM BUT, AGAIN, THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AS A
12:34:26PM MINIMUM.
12:34:27PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ONE THING AND JUST SO YOU ALL REALIZE, AT
12:34:32PM LEAST FOR THE PROPERTY ACQUIRED BY THE CRA, THE CRA PORTION,
12:34:35PM IT WAS ACQUIRED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PURPOSES.
12:34:37PM THAT PERCENTAGE NEEDS TO BE PUSHED IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE
12:34:41PM LEGALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE PURPOSES FOR WHICH IT WAS
12:34:45PM PURCHASED.
12:34:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE YOU ALL, WE HAD AN INDEPENDENT
12:34:49PM DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
12:34:50PM I DON'T KNOW IF EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER DID, BUT I HAD AN

12:34:54PM INDEPENDENT DISCUSSION WITH YOU ALL ABOUT THIS, AND FROM MY
12:34:57PM UNDERSTANDING, YOU'RE KIND OF DIVIDING IT INTO FOUR PARCELS
12:35:00PM AND THREE OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE FOCUSED ON AFFORDABLE
12:35:03PM HOUSING, AND ONE OF THEM WAS BASICALLY GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
12:35:07PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S STILL WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, BUT
12:35:10PM 10% IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT I EXPECT.
12:35:14PM I EXPECT OVER 50%, IF NOT MORE.
12:35:18PM AND WE CAN DO THE RANGE.
12:35:20PM I KNOW FROM THE CRA PERSPECTIVE WE NEED TO FOCUS ON 80% AMI
12:35:25PM AND BELOW.
12:35:25PM BUT FOR THE CITY PORTION, WE CAN FOCUS ON 80 TO 120 PERCENT,
12:35:30PM AND THEN THERE'S THAT MARKET RATE THAT WE WERE GOING TO
12:35:34PM CONSIDER TO HELP PAY FOR IT ALL.
12:35:37PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SPRINKLE THAT IN, HOWEVER THAT
12:35:40PM WORKS, BUT WE OWN THE LANDS NOW.
12:35:43PM THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO.
12:35:45PM I WANT TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE FOR HOUSING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE
12:35:49PM BECAUSE WE CAN HERE.
12:35:51PM WE ALREADY OWN IT.
12:35:52PM WE SPENT A TON OF TIME AND EFFORT PUTTING THAT IN.
12:35:55PM IF WE WERE TO SELL THIS WE WOULDN'T GET ANY.
12:35:59PM WE WOULD BE BASICALLY BACK TO DECEMBER -- SORRY, DECEMBER
12:36:03PM 2023'S MEETING WHERE WE'RE HOPING TO GET 10% BECAUSE THAT IS
12:36:10PM WHAT HAPPENED, THAT TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY JUST GAVE THE
12:36:13PM LAND AWAY.

12:36:14PM WE COULDN'T GIVE IT AWAY FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE NEED TO
12:36:17PM REPLACE THIS.
12:36:18PM I ABSOLUTELY DON'T THINK SELLING IT IS A GOOD IDEA.
12:36:23PM A THOUSAND SHOULD BE OUR LOW.
12:36:24PM LIKE 600 SHOULDN'T EVEN BE IN THE CONVERSATION.
12:36:27PM THAT GETS -- IT'S JUST SO MANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
12:36:33PM IF 250 OF THOSE ARE MARKET RATE, 750 ARE BETWEEN 50 AND 120,
12:36:42PM WOW, OR 140, WHATEVER IT IS WE'RE DOING.
12:36:47PM I SEE MR. DRUMGO COMING UP.
12:36:51PM DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING?
12:36:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN BOARD MEMBER
12:36:58PM MIRANDA, BUT GO AHEAD, YES.
12:37:01PM YOU AND THEN --
12:37:03PM >>ALIS DRUMGO: YES, MA'AM.
12:37:04PM AND THANK YOU.
12:37:05PM FOR THE RECORD, ALIS DRUMGO, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR
12:37:07PM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
12:37:09PM I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND WE APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL
12:37:13PM FEEDBACK.
12:37:13PM PART OF THIS IS THIS RECEIPT OF FEEDBACK IS THAT AT SOME
12:37:16PM POINT WHEN WE START TO DRAFT AN RFP WE HAVE TO ASSIGN
12:37:20PM CERTAIN VALUES TO THE CRITERIA.
12:37:21PM SO WE HEAR YOU AS YOU'RE SAYING, WE WOULD LIKE THESE
12:37:25PM PARTICULAR USES INCLUDED.
12:37:27PM NOW, I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KEEP IN MIND THAT IF WE RUN AN

12:37:31PM RFP AND WE INCLUDED ALL THE STATED PURPOSES THAT YOU'D LIKE
12:37:35PM TO HAVE, IT'S ADDITIONAL MONEY, RIGHT, AND IT MAY COST THE
12:37:38PM DEVELOPER TO MEET THESE NEEDS AND MEET THESE GOALS.
12:37:41PM SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE SUBSIDIZATION OF THOSE
12:37:45PM PARTICULAR UNITS, WE WANTED TO DRAFT AN RFP IN A WAY THAT IT
12:37:49PM WOULD NOT GUARANTEE WE WOULD HAVE A DEVELOPER WALK BACK
12:37:53PM THROUGH THE DOOR AND SAY WE WANTED MORE MONEY WHICH MAY BE
12:37:56PM WHERE SOME OF YOU SITTING UP THERE HAVE THOSE CONCERNS THAT
12:37:59PM YOU WOULD HAVE A DEVELOPER COME IN ASKING FOR MONEY.
12:38:02PM I WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HEAR YOU AND WE'LL DRAFT
12:38:05PM THE RFP TO TRY TO MEET THESE STATED NEEDS AND WE'LL WEIGHT
12:38:10PM THOSE CRITERIA ACCORDINGLY, BUT THERE IS A CHANCE WHEN WE
12:38:14PM RUN IT, THE RESPONSES MAY BE LIMITED OR CONTINUE TO REDO IT
12:38:17PM OVER AND OVER AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE LIMITATIONS THAT ARE
12:38:20PM IMPOSED.
12:38:22PM YOU MAY SEE US COME BACK BEFORE YOU TO ASK FOR SOME
12:38:25PM MODIFICATION TO THOSE IN THE FUTURE IF THAT IS THE CASE.
12:38:28PM I JUST WANT TO TRY TO SET THOSE EXPECTATIONS FOR HOW WE MOVE
12:38:31PM FORWARD.
12:38:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S, I THINK, PART OF -- I'M SPEAKING FOR
12:38:38PM MYSELF, BUT I THINK DECEMBER'S MEETING SHOWED THAT WE ALL
12:38:42PM NEED A LITTLE -- AT LEAST I NEED HELP AND I ACTUALLY REACHED
12:38:46PM OUT TO MR. DRUMGO TO START MONTHLY MEETINGS TO LEARN HOW
12:38:51PM STACKS WORK AND WHAT'S A GOOD USE OF MONEY BECAUSE I DON'T
12:38:57PM KNOW THAT.

12:38:59PM WHILE YOU ALL CAN JUST TELL US, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE
12:39:02PM THAT KNOWLEDGE AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, BECAUSE, YES, I CAN
12:39:06PM TELL YOU 10% IS NOT ENOUGH, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE
12:39:09PM DEVELOPER MONEY WORKS, LIKE, HOW MUCH CAN WE GET.
12:39:15PM I SAY EVERYTHING WE CAN, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT PEOPLE NEED TO
12:39:18PM FIND A WAY TO MAKE MONEY.
12:39:20PM AGAIN, MAYBE SOME OF THIS CAN BE TALKED ABOUT IN FEBRUARY.
12:39:25PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: LET ME ADD REAL QUICK, WOULDN'T THIS BE
12:39:28PM PROBABLY SUBJECT TO A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT GIVEN THE
12:39:31PM VALUE OF THE LAND?
12:39:31PM THERE WOULD BE A POTENTIAL THROUGH THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
12:39:35PM PROCESS TO NEGOTIATE ADDITIONAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING
12:39:38PM CONCESSIONS.
12:39:41PM >> THAT IS ACCURATE, ATTORNEY MASSEY.
12:39:43PM WE ALSO HAVE A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS FOR THE OPT-OUT IF WE
12:39:46PM HAVE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE DEAL.
12:39:49PM SO IT WOULD JUST DEPEND ON WHAT WE RECEIVE.
12:39:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:39:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES AND THE PUBLIC, IT IS
12:40:00PM DIFFERENT THAT THE STAFF IS COMING BACK AND TALKING TO US
12:40:03PM ABOUT THIS AT THIS POINT.
12:40:04PM NOW, THIS PROJECT OR THIS IDEA HAS BEEN CIRCULATED AROUND
12:40:08PM CRA FOR SEVERAL YEARS, I THINK, BUT TYPICALLY STAFF DOES NOT
12:40:12PM COME BEFORE US ON A CITY PROJECT AND TALK TO US ABOUT THE
12:40:16PM RFP.

12:40:17PM I APPRECIATE THEM DOING THAT.
12:40:18PM IN THE CASE OF ROME YARD, FOR EXAMPLE, THE CITY HELPED PUT
12:40:22PM IN AN RFP.
12:40:23PM CITY COUNCIL WAS NOT INVOLVED, NOT BRIEFED.
12:40:25PM THE RFP WAS AWARDED, CITY COUNCIL WAS NOT BRIEFED.
12:40:29PM THE CONTRACT WAS NEGOTIATED MORE THAN A YEAR.
12:40:31PM ALL THE PROCESS WAS AT LEAST A YEAR AND A HALF.
12:40:33PM ONLY WHEN THE PROJECT CAME UP WAS CITY COUNCIL BRIEFED.
12:40:36PM WE READ ABOUT IT AND THAT WAS BEFORE THE STAFF WERE HERE.
12:40:41PM IT IS DIFFERENT THE WAY YOU'RE PRESENTING IT.
12:40:42PM I THANK YOU FOR THAT.
12:40:44PM AS I TALK TO DEVELOPERS AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, THE
12:40:47PM MARKET CONDITIONS ARE CHANGING.
12:40:50PM THERE ARE STILL SOME SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES.
12:40:52PM IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, ONE IS CONCRETE, CONCRETE IS
12:40:56PM ESPECIALLY HIGH RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY EXPECT THAT TO LOOSEN UP
12:40:59PM SOMETIME NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THE CAPITAL MARKETS ARE DRYING UP
12:41:02PM AND THERE'S GOING TO BE LESS COMPETITION FOR WORKERS AND
12:41:06PM SUPPLIES BY PROBABLY MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR.
12:41:09PM SO I THINK DELAYING ACTUALLY HELPS US IN THIS CASE BECAUSE
12:41:12PM WE'RE GOING TO GET A MUCH BETTER DEAL IF WE WAITED SIX
12:41:14PM MONTHS THAN IF WE DID IT NOW.
12:41:16PM ALSO, THERE ARE RUMORS THAT THE FED IS GOING TO GO DOWN.
12:41:19PM RUMORS EVERY DAY ARE UP OR DOWN.
12:41:21PM IF RATES GO DOWN, THAT CREATES A BENEFIT AS WELL.

12:41:25PM SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
12:41:29PM IT SEEMS TO ME IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR US TO WAIT SIX MONTHS
12:41:32PM ANYWAY BECAUSE WE WOULD SAVE MONEY AND GET A BETTER DEAL.
12:41:35PM THE DEVELOPERS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR WOULD COME AT IT MORE,
12:41:38PM IN A MORE DIRECT WAY BECAUSE THEY WOULD WANT TO PARTNER WITH
12:41:41PM US BECAUSE WE ARE A SOURCE OF CAPITAL ALSO.
12:41:44PM I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE OR COLLEAGUES ABOUT THE 10% NOT
12:41:48PM BEING HIGH ENOUGH.
12:41:49PM IN LIVE LOCAL, IT'S 40%.
12:41:53PM WE NEED TO HIT WHATEVER WE NEED TO HIT FOR THE CRA LAND, BUT
12:42:02PM WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO UP AT LEAST TO THE FAA LIMIT.
12:42:05PM MAYBE TRY TO GO OVER BUT AT LEAST THE FAA LIMIT ON THIS LAND
12:42:09PM AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR A DEVELOPER
12:42:12PM TO MAKE MONEY ABOVE THIS.
12:42:15PM AND TO THAT POINT, ALL RESEARCH SHOWS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE
12:42:18PM MIXED INCOME IN THE BUILDING.
12:42:20PM WE DEFINITELY SHOULD NOT HAVE A BUILDING WITH ONLY
12:42:23PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.
12:42:24PM THAT WAS PROVEN WRONG 20, 30 YEARS AGO.
12:42:28PM SO WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS GOING ON OUT THERE AND THE FACT
12:42:31PM THAT WE HAVE A FEBRUARY 29th DISCUSSION, THE
12:42:37PM ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE DIRECTIVES OF CITY
12:42:39PM COUNCIL WOULD BE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DECIDED YET.
12:42:42PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO
12:42:49PM HOLD THE RFP AND NOT ISSUE IT UNTIL AFTER FEBRUARY 29.

12:42:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL SECOND IT.
12:42:59PM IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY.
12:43:01PM WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE 29th ON EVERYTHING THAT
12:43:05PM WE'RE DOING REGARDING HOMES AND AVAILABILITY TO PURCHASE.
12:43:08PM AND I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS IN MY MIND THINKING OUT OF THE
12:43:11PM BOX.
12:43:11PM I DON'T KNOW IF I'M IN THE BOX OR OUT OF THE BOX BECAUSE
12:43:14PM WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS MAYBE NOT POSSIBLE, MORE THAN
12:43:18PM LIKELY, IF I BRING IT UP, IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE BECAUSE I
12:43:21PM THINK DIFFERENTLY.
12:43:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I COMMENT ON THE MOTION?
12:43:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE DID SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
12:43:32PM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
12:43:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT ONLY BECAUSE, AS
12:43:35PM MR. DRUMGO SAID, I DON'T THINK THE FIRST -- I DON'T KNOW
12:43:38PM THAT THE FIRST BITE OF THE APPLE IS GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
12:43:41PM MR. DRUMGO, ACTUALLY, YOU MAY KNOW, MR. JOHNSON.
12:43:46PM IF WE GET RFPs AND WE DON'T LIKE THEM, DO WE HAVE TO TAKE
12:43:53PM THEM?
12:43:55PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE ANSWER IS NO.
12:43:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PUTTING IT OUT
12:44:00PM AND SEEING WHAT WE GET AND REFINING IT TO THE MARKET AS YOU
12:44:04PM SAID.
12:44:05PM BY THE TIME IT'S ALL DONE, IT WILL BE AT LEAST THREE MORE
12:44:08PM MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS MAYBE.

12:44:11PM >> WITH RESPECT TO THE BOARD AND TO THE DISCUSSION HERE, OUR
12:44:14PM INTENT, AGAIN, IS TO GO BACK AND DRAFT AND REFINE THE
12:44:19PM DOCUMENTS AND THEN TO WORK WITH THROUGH ALL THE REVIEWS.
12:44:22PM THOSE PROCESSES RIGHT NOW THROUGH OUR PROCUREMENT TEAM ARE
12:44:25PM TAKING THREE TO FOUR MONTHS JUST TO DO AN ISSUANCE.
12:44:28PM WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RUSH THIS THROUGH.
12:44:30PM WE'RE NOT SAYING WE'LL ISSUE THIS TOMORROW.
12:44:33PM I THINK WE HAVE TIME BUT THEN ALSO WE WOULD HAVE AN OPEN
12:44:37PM PROCESS FOR THE DEVELOPERS TO PUT TOGETHER THEIR PROPOSALS
12:44:40PM TO RESPOND WHICH WOULD TAKE ANOTHER 90 DAYS OR SO.
12:44:43PM I THINK FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE PROBABLY SIX MONTHS
12:44:45PM OUT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A REVIEW COMMITTEE LOOKING AT
12:44:49PM THOSE PROPOSALS.
12:44:50PM AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT AS A COUNCIL,
12:44:55PM YOU WOULD THEN BE SUBJECT TO REVIEWING ANY TERMS OR
12:45:00PM AGREEMENTS AT THAT TIME AS WELL.
12:45:02PM I THINK WE'RE VERY FAR OFF FROM ACTUALLY BEING AT THAT POINT
12:45:06PM AND ALLOWING US TO GO FORWARD.
12:45:09PM FURTHER ALLOWS US TO REFINE AND CONTINUE IN THE PROCESS.
12:45:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:45:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AGREE, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT,
12:45:17PM ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF WHAT MR. DRUMGO SAID.
12:45:20PM BUT I WOULD LIKE BEFORE THE RFP GETS OUT, HAVE EYES ON IT TO
12:45:25PM SEE IF OUR WISH LISTS ARE KIND OF INCORPORATED INTO THAT
12:45:31PM RFP.

12:45:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:45:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ADMINISTRATION NEVER PRESENTS RFPs TO
12:45:38PM US, NEVER GETS OUR FEEDBACK ON RFPs AND NEVER GETS OUR
12:45:43PM FEEDBACK IN SELECTING VENDORS FOR RFPs EXCEPT IN THE CRA.
12:45:48PM I DON'T REMEMBER A CASE WHEN WE DID THAT.
12:45:49PM THE CRA IS ONLY A SMALL PLAYER IN THIS PROJECT.
12:45:53PM THE ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT ALLOWED US AS CITY COUNCIL TO SEE
12:45:58PM ANY OF THIS STUFF WITH OTHER THINGS.
12:46:01PM WE KNOW THAT IF WE WAIT THAT THE FINANCIAL MARKETS AND
12:46:05PM SUPPLY CHAINS WILL BE BETTER IN SIX MONTHS THAN IT WILL BE
12:46:08PM NOW.
12:46:08PM I THINK IT MAKES FISCAL SENSE TO DO THAT.
12:46:11PM KEEP IN MIND THAT WE HAVE TRUST ISSUE.
12:46:12PM YOU ALL PROBABLY READ THE TIMES INVESTIGATIVE STORY IN THE
12:46:16PM EDITORIAL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
12:46:19PM ALTHOUGH IT DIRECTLY HIT THE ADMINISTRATION, IT HITS THE
12:46:22PM WHOLE CITY AND US INDIRECTLY AND WE HAVE TO TRY TO BUILD
12:46:25PM TRUST AGAIN.
12:46:26PM I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU MENTIONED THE RFP TIME PERIOD
12:46:30PM WOULD BE AT LEAST 90 DAYS.
12:46:31PM THE CITY HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF IN THE PAST OF HAVING SHORT
12:46:35PM TIME FRAMES.
12:46:37PM AGAIN, BEFORE YOUR FOLKS CAME ON BOARD, BUT DEVELOPERS NEED
12:46:40PM TIME TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND EFFECTIVELY.
12:46:44PM BUT MY SUGGESTION HERE AND MY MOTION IS JUST OUT OF RESPECT

12:46:52PM FOR THE CONSENSUS OF CITY COUNCIL AND THE CRA BOARD, THAT
12:46:55PM THE ADMINISTRATION NOT ISSUE THE RFP UNTIL AFTER FEBRUARY
12:47:01PM 29.
12:47:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
12:47:05PM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
12:47:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARITY AND
12:47:09PM UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THESE THINGS GOING ON.
12:47:10PM THIS IS ONE AND A THOUSAND TIMES THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY
12:47:13PM TO DO SOMETHING.
12:47:14PM THOUSAND TIMES, THIS IS THE ONLY TIME WE HAVE TO DO IT.
12:47:18PM AS THE CITY ATTORNEY, MR. MASSEY, JUST TALKED ABOUT
12:47:23PM REGARDING THE MONEY, WHO BOUGHT IT, WHO OWNS, IT'S COMBINED,
12:47:26PM WE UNDERSTAND ALL THAT AND BOUGHT OUT BY EITHER PARTY, I
12:47:29PM GUESS.
12:47:30PM BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE AMI FROM 40, 60, 80, 120,
12:47:34PM 140 AND THEN LOOKING AT A STRUCTURE ONLY FOR 13 STORIES BUT
12:47:39PM MAYBE THEY CAN GET TO GO TO 20 STORIES OR 25 STORIES, BEING
12:47:43PM BUILT RIGHT NOW NEXT TO US CLOSER TO THE AIRPORT THAN THAT
12:47:46PM ONE IS.
12:47:47PM I'M THINKING TO MYSELF, WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT?
12:47:49PM MAYBE TWO BLOCKS UP THE STREET.
12:47:54PM BEING BOUGHT FOR A REASON.
12:47:57PM MORE SUN, RADIATE DIFFERENT THINGS.
12:47:59PM I LOOK AND TELL MYSELF, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS, WHY DO YOU
12:48:03PM HAVE TO HAVE A DEVELOPER?

12:48:04PM WHAT IS THE TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY ABOUT?
12:48:09PM WHAT ARE THINGS THAT ARE COMING ABOUT AND HOW DO YOU BUILD
12:48:12PM THESE THINGS?
12:48:13PM THE MONEY HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID, SO THERE'S NO DUE DILIGENCE
12:48:16PM IN SAYING IF WE BUILT THIS, HOW MUCH RENT IS GOING TO BE
12:48:20PM CHARGED?
12:48:21PM HOW MUCH MONEY IS NECESSARY?
12:48:24PM WHAT IS THE COST OF THE BUILDING?
12:48:25PM AT THE END OF THE TIME IT IS PAID FOR, CAN WE -- MUTUAL
12:48:30PM BREAK.
12:48:31PM CITY COUNCIL COME AFTER OLD CHARLIE HERE, BUT I BELIEVE YOUR
12:48:36PM DISCUSSION IS OPEN.
12:48:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ATTORNEY MASSEY.
12:48:38PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: QUICKLY.
12:48:39PM THE CITY TYPICALLY DOESN'T BUILD APARTMENT PROJECTS, AND
12:48:46PM THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS WHY WE DON'T DO THAT.
12:48:49PM ONE OF THE REASONS IS ECONOMICS.
12:48:52PM IF YOU GO THROUGH THE CITY PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO BUILD A
12:48:57PM 25, 30 STORY APARTMENT BUILDING, IT WILL COST THE CITY AND
12:49:02PM THE CRA A LOT MORE MONEY THAN IF A PRIVATE DEVELOPER DID IT.
12:49:07PM I'M BEING HONEST.
12:49:08PM WE TYPICALLY PARTNER, WE CONTRIBUTE THE LAND.
12:49:12PM WE MAY GIVE SOME FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, BUT TYPICALLY IT IS
12:49:15PM BETTER FOR US TO PARTNER WITH A PRIVATE DEVELOPER OR NOT FOR
12:49:20PM PROFIT THAT IS EXPERIENCED IN THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT.

12:49:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT I'M LOOKING AT, WE HAVE A CRISIS,
12:49:26PM NOT ONLY IN TAMPA, IN THE WHOLE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
12:49:30PM AMONG OTHER THINGS, NUMBER ONE IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
12:49:33PM CAN'T FIND IT.
12:49:34PM IF IT KEEPS GOING UP NORTH, OUR PROBLEM IS NOT GOING TO GET
12:49:37PM ANY BETTER.
12:49:38PM IT'S GOING TO GET WORSE.
12:49:39PM WHO IS GOING TO LIVE IN THAT KIND OF WEATHER AT ANY AGE?
12:49:45PM IT'S A MOVEMENT TO THE SOUTH.
12:49:48PM WE HAVE HURRICANES, NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT, BUT IF WE CAN'T
12:49:56PM HIRE A DEVELOPER TO BUILD AND PAY A PREMIUM, WE DON'T HAVE
12:50:02PM IN MY MIND, WHEN I BUILT APARTMENT OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT
12:50:06PM YOU WANT TO DO, YOU SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO
12:50:09PM COST AND THIS IS WHAT THE RENT IS.
12:50:11PM AFTER I PAY THIS, THIS, THIS, MAY BE A PROFIT, MAY NOT.
12:50:15PM MAY NOT GET THE PROFIT.
12:50:19PM TEN YEARS WORTH MUCH MORE THAN WHAT YOU PAID FOR.
12:50:22PM THEN I'M TELLING MYSELF, GO THROUGH ALL THIS AND AT THE END,
12:50:27PM SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO CONTROL THE RIGHTS FOR EVERYTHING.
12:50:31PM AM I RIGHT OR WRONG?
12:50:32PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: PART OF WHAT THE RFP WOULD ADDRESS IN ANY
12:50:39PM AGREEMENTS WOULD ADDRESS BECAUSE WE'RE CONTRIBUTING THE LAND
12:50:41PM AND SOME OF THE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE FOR THAT PROJECT, THEN
12:50:46PM WE WOULD NEGOTIATE BASICALLY CONSIDERATION FOR THAT
12:50:49PM CONTRIBUTION RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD GUARANTEE THE

12:50:53PM AFFORDABILITY THAT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF THOSE UNITS WERE
12:50:58PM AVAILABLE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
12:51:01PM WE'RE TALKING 99 YEARS.
12:51:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:51:05PM I'M NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF SAYING IF A BUILDING IS BUILT OF
12:51:08PM SO MANY APARTMENTS AT CERTAIN RATE, WHAT DOES THAT MONEY
12:51:13PM THAT YOU'RE GETTING OUT PAY BACK TO BUILD THAT BUILDING AND
12:51:19PM MAKE IT LIVABLE?
12:51:20PM I DON'T KNOW THAT.
12:51:21PM I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE DOES.
12:51:24PM IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU HAVE A THOUSAND UNITS OR 1500 UNITS
12:51:27PM OR 500 UNITS, HOW MUCH IS THE BUILDING GOING TO COST AND HOW
12:51:30PM MUCH IS GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE LIVING AND WHAT IS THE
12:51:33PM PAYBACK OF THAT BUILDING?
12:51:35PM IF WE'RE TALKING THAT THE CITY CAN'T MAKE ANYTHING OF IT,
12:51:38PM THEN NEITHER CAN THE DEVELOPER.
12:51:41PM >> IF I MAY, A COUPLE OF GENERAL THOUGHTS.
12:51:43PM I THINK FOR MANY OF THE REASONS ALREADY DISCUSSED AS FAR AS
12:51:47PM THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS IN THE CITY AND WHAT WE DO AND WHAT
12:51:51PM WE ARE GOOD AT AS FAR AS BUILDING DEPARTMENT, I THINK
12:51:57PM ULTIMATELY DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT GROUPS HAVE ACCESS TO
12:51:59PM MORE CAPITAL THAN WE DO AND THEY UNDERSTAND THE MARKETS.
12:52:02PM THESE ARE GOING TO BE NATIONAL, MAYBE INTERNATIONAL GROUPS,
12:52:12PM DEPENDING ON HOW WIDE A REACH THE RFP IS.
12:52:13PM THEY'VE GOT EXPERIENCE IN CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS AND THINGS

12:52:13PM LIKE THAT THAT CAN REDUCE THE COST FOR THEM.
12:52:15PM WE DON'T DEAL IN THAT TYPE OF MARKET.
12:52:17PM I MEAN, THIS COULD BE THE 10th BUILDING THAT THEY HAVE
12:52:19PM DONE IN A SIMILAR STRUCTURE, DESIGN, OR SOMETHING ALONG
12:52:25PM THOSE LINES.
12:52:25PM AND AS WELL, THEY CAN GO OUT AND BE VERY FLEXIBLE AND
12:52:29PM CREATIVE WITH THE PARTNERSHIPS.
12:52:30PM WITHOUT HAVING TO COME AND EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT, THEY CAN
12:52:33PM BRING NEW TEAM MEMBERS AND COME TOGETHER WITH A VERY
12:52:36PM CREATIVE APPROACH.
12:52:36PM THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH THE RFP I THINK IS THAT WE
12:52:40PM WANT TO STOKE THAT CREATIVITY.
12:52:42PM WE WANT TO GIVE THEM THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY AS FAR
12:52:46PM AS THOSE GUIDELINES OF WE WANT AT LEAST THIS MANY OR THIS
12:52:48PM PERCENTAGE OF HOUSING AND ALL THAT AND WE'RE DEFINITELY
12:52:51PM HEARING YOU ALL.
12:52:52PM TO YOUR POINT AS FAR AS WHAT THE CITY LEVERS WE MIGHT HAVE
12:52:57PM MOVING FORWARD, ONE IS THE LAND USE RESTRICTION AGREEMENTS
12:52:59PM THAT WILL GET EXECUTED FOR THE UNITS SPECIFICALLY.
12:53:03PM WE MAY, DEPENDING ON THE PROPOSALS, THE CITY MAY RETAIN
12:53:06PM OWNERSHIP OF SOME OR ALL OF THE LAND AND IT COULD BE A
12:53:09PM LONG-TERM LEASE.
12:53:10PM THESE ARE ALL OPTIONS THAT ARE TO BE DISCUSSED, I THINK, BY
12:53:14PM ALLOWING THOSE DEVELOPMENT GROUPS TO COME IN AND DO SO.
12:53:18PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MR. DRUMGO MAY BE BETTER ABLE TO SPEAK TO

12:53:21PM THIS.
12:53:21PM PART OF THIS IS WHAT MS. HURTAK WAS TALKING ABOUT, COMING UP
12:53:25PM WITH THE STACKS AVAILABLE TO MAKE A PROJECT LIKE THIS WORK.
12:53:28PM YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A CERTAIN NUMBER OF UNITS THAT WILL BE
12:53:31PM AFFORDABLE WHERE THE DEVELOPER IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THE KIND
12:53:33PM OF RETURN THAT THEY WOULD THINK THEY WOULD MAKE ON THAT
12:53:37PM INVESTMENT.
12:53:37PM SO HOW TO BALANCE THAT, WHETHER YOU CAN GET TAX FINANCING
12:53:41PM THROUGH THE STATE OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THERE ARE A LOT OF
12:53:44PM OTHER VARIABLES THAT GET INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECTS.
12:53:48PM >> THIS IS WHY THE LD & D GROUP WAS HERE BEFORE YOU LAST
12:53:51PM MONTH.
12:53:52PM THEY WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CAPITALIZE THEIR
12:53:54PM PROJECT AND LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL TAX REBATES TO HELP
12:53:57PM OFFSET SOME OF THOSE EXPENSES.
12:53:59PM WE'RE LOOKING AT, TO GET INTO SOME OF THE AMIs, SUBSIDY OF
12:54:04PM $200,000 PER UNIT TO DO IT.
12:54:07PM SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A THOUSAND UNITS, DOES THE CITY OR
12:54:10PM THE CRA HAVE $200 MILLION TO KICK IN FOR ONE PROJECT?
12:54:14PM SO I THINK WHEN YOU START CONSIDERING WHAT THOSE NUMBERS
12:54:17PM COULD BE AND THEN THE FACT THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER
12:54:21PM HOW TO OPERATE THAT, OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THAT ON THE BACK
12:54:26PM END, NOT HAVING OUR OWN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AS A CITY,
12:54:29PM I'VE WORKED IN PLACES WHERE THEY DO HAVE THOSE ORGANIZATIONS
12:54:32PM TETHERED TO THE CITY AND SOME OF IT WORKS, BUT YOU WILL TAKE

12:54:35PM A LOSS ON A LOT OF PROJECTS.
12:54:37PM SO IN THIS CASE, I THINK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO APPROACH THIS
12:54:41PM WITH THE LAND AS THE ASSET AND GOING OUT TO RECRUIT THOSE
12:54:45PM DEVELOPERS, LIKE YOU SAID, TO COME IN AND CREATIVELY BRING
12:54:48PM THE PROJECTS TO US.
12:54:49PM THIS IS WHY THEY ARE ALWAYS TWEAKING WHAT THEY CAN DO WITHIN
12:54:52PM THE VARIOUS AMIs BECAUSE THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE
12:54:55PM DIFFERENCE OR THE GAP BETWEEN THE MARKET AND THE ACTUAL COST
12:54:59PM THEY ARE PROVIDING TO THOSE TENANTS.
12:55:01PM IF YOU ALLOW US TO GO FORWARD, WE'LL SEE THE VARIETY OF
12:55:05PM OPTIONS THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED TO US IN THOSE RESPONSES
12:55:10PM BECAUSE WE RUN A TON OF PRO FORMAS AND WE CAN TRY TO FIGURE
12:55:14PM IT OUT.
12:55:14PM FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE, WE MAY GET TEN DIFFERENT SITE
12:55:18PM DESIGNS OR SITE LAYOUTS AS WELL.
12:55:20PM OF COURSE, THOSE CONFIGURATIONS ALL WILL DICTATE WHAT THE
12:55:23PM PRICES WILL BE, THE NUMBER OF UNITS YOU CAN CRAM IN.
12:55:27PM THERE ARE JUST SO MANY VARIABLES THAT GO INTO THE
12:55:29PM DEVELOPMENT PIECE OF IT.
12:55:31PM UNFORTUNATELY -- WELL, FORTUNATELY, WE HAD THE LAND AS THE
12:55:35PM ASSET AND WE NEED TO SEE WHAT THE DEVELOPERS WOULD LIKE TO
12:55:38PM DO HERE.
12:55:39PM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
12:55:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:55:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST ONE POINT, I THINK MAYBE SOME OF THE

12:55:46PM FOLKS UP HERE ARE OVERESTIMATING THE LEVERAGE.
12:55:53PM IS THE VALUE OF THE LAND OUR LEVERAGE IN THIS?
12:55:55PM UNLESS THERE IS A MAGIC POT OF MONEY AT THE END OF A RAINBOW
12:55:58PM THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF, IT IS THE VALUE OF THE LAND, PER
12:56:02PM UNIT.
12:56:03PM SUBTRACT THAT OUT.
12:56:04PM I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US SITTING UP HERE IN AN HOUR TO
12:56:09PM MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT AND THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S REALLY
12:56:14PM IMPORTANT FOR US TO ASK THE STAFF TO DO THEIR JOB AND WHAT
12:56:18PM THEY ARE DOING AND WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW IS TO
12:56:20PM BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE TOOLS.
12:56:23PM I THINK YOU HEARD WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE AND YOU'LL BE
12:56:28PM ABLE TO TEMPER THAT WITH THE REALITY OF THE SUBSIDIES PER
12:56:31PM UNIT.
12:56:32PM PUT OUT AN RFP AND YOU'LL BRING SOMETHING BACK TO US.
12:56:38PM ALSO, MR. CARLSON, WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM LISTENING TO THE
12:56:41PM STAFF IS THAT REFERENCE YOUR MOTION, REALLY IT'S NOT.
12:56:46PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE AN RFP BEFORE THE 29th BECAUSE
12:56:50PM IT WILL TAKE THEM LONGER THAN THAT TO COMPILE ALL THE
12:56:53PM INFORMATION.
12:56:53PM I THINK WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW IS KIND OF MOOT ON THAT
12:56:57PM MOTION.
12:56:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS WE'RE NOT GOING TO
12:57:01PM REVIEW THE OUTCOME OF THE RFP FOR SIX MONTHS.
12:57:05PM I DIDN'T HEAR YOU SAY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PUT IT OUT TO RFP

12:57:09PM UNTIL AFTER FEBRUARY 29.
12:57:10PM IS IT GOING TO BE 90 DAYS BEFORE YOU PUT OUT THE RFP?
12:57:15PM >> I WILL SAY THAT THE TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON A DRAFT OF
12:57:18PM THE RFP.
12:57:19PM I DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE BETWEEN NOW AND THE
12:57:22PM 29th TO COMPILE ALL THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED HERE AND
12:57:25PM THEN RUN IT THROUGH THE LEGAL REVIEWS AND OUR PURCHASING
12:57:29PM TEAM'S REVIEW.
12:57:30PM IDEALLY, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MAYBE A SIX- TO EIGHT-WEEK
12:57:34PM PROCESS TO RECEIVE ALL THAT FEEDBACK AND GET A DOCUMENT THAT
12:57:38PM WE FEEL COMFORTABLE IN PUBLISHING.
12:57:40PM NOW, IF THE BOARD IS ASKING FOR US TO COME BACK SO WE CAN
12:57:43PM DISCUSS THOSE CRITERIA, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T
12:57:46PM TYPICALLY DO.
12:57:47PM THAT WOULD BE VERY ATYPICAL FOR US TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS
12:57:50PM THAT CRITERIA BEFORE WE ISSUE THE RFP.
12:57:53PM I WOULD SAY THAT.
12:57:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK RIGHT NOW YOU'VE GOT ALL OF OUR
12:57:56PM FEEDBACK.
12:57:57PM I ASKED TO PUT EYES ON THIS INDIVIDUALLY SO WE CAN PROVIDE
12:58:01PM INPUT AND THEN WE CAN MOVE.
12:58:04PM AGAIN, WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER BITE OF THE APPLE BECAUSE WE
12:58:07PM COULD REJECT IT.
12:58:09PM SO THERE WE GO.
12:58:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION.

12:58:12PM ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
12:58:13PM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:58:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW HOW THE VOTE WILL GO ON HOW
12:58:19PM THIS ONE, BASED ON WHAT HE SAID, IF I CHANGE THE MOTION TO
12:58:23PM SAY WE'D LIKE THEM TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING TO
12:58:26PM REVIEW THE CRITERIA WITH US BEFORE THEY PUT OUT THE RFP?
12:58:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HE SAID IT WOULD TAKE SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS.
12:58:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: THEN WE CAN DISCUSS ON FEBRUARY 29.
12:58:37PM >>ALIS DRUMGO: SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS FOR US TO COMPILE ALL THE
12:58:40PM COMMENTS AND CREATE A SCORING MATRIX AND THEN HAVE ALL OF
12:58:44PM THAT REVIEWED AND VETTED THROUGH THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.
12:58:48PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT IF I CHANGE THE MOTION TO SAY I WOULD
12:58:50PM LIKE YOU ALL TO COME BACK TO REVIEW THE DRAFT WITH US ON
12:58:53PM FEBRUARY 29?
12:58:54PM >>ALIS DRUMGO: AS I SAID, IT IS ATYPICAL FOR US TO DO THIS
12:58:58PM AS A WHOLE BODY.
12:58:59PM AGAIN, IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU ALL WANTED SOME ONE-ON-ONE
12:59:02PM CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT CRITERIA.
12:59:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE NEED A PUBLIC CONVERSATION IS MY
12:59:06PM POINT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC HAS A LOT OF THOUGHTS ON IT.
12:59:09PM WE COULD HAVE HAD THREE HOURS OF CONVERSATION JUST ON
12:59:11PM VETERAN HOUSING AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS
12:59:14PM OF THIS THAT WE COULD HAVE, BUT WE NEED TO -- CONSIDERING
12:59:17PM ALL THE CRITICISM WE'VE HAD THROUGH THE ROME YARD PROJECT,
12:59:19PM THE TIMES ARTICLES, WE NEED AS MUCH TRANSPARENCY AS

12:59:22PM POSSIBLE, BUT ALSO CITY COUNCIL NORMALLY IS NOT INCLUDED IN
12:59:25PM ANY OF THIS, BUT SINCE WE HAVE A SMALL PIECE OF CRA, WE CAN
12:59:29PM BE AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO MAKE SURE WE USE THIS FOR MAXIMUM
12:59:32PM TRANSPARENCY AND TO HAVE THE ROBUST DISCUSSIONS AMONG US.
12:59:35PM I STILL THINK, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT CRA SHOULD BUY ALL THE LAND
12:59:39PM AND DEVELOP THIS AS A CRA PROJECT, BUT THAT IS A DISCUSSION
12:59:42PM FOR FEBRUARY 29, NOT TODAY.
12:59:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT MARCH 21st?
12:59:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ARE YOU CHANGING YOUR MOTION?
12:59:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: INSTEAD OF FEBRUARY.
12:59:56PM CAN YOU HAVE THE DRAFT DONE BY FEBRUARY 29?
12:59:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF WE HAVE CHANGES, MARCH 21.
1:00:02PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: AS MR. DRUMGO SAYS, THE PROCESS ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE
1:00:04PM SIDE OF THE HOUSE IS COMPLICATED AND PROBABLY WON'T GO FORWARD
1:00:08PM BEFORE THE 29th.
01:00:14PM I MAY BE -- AND I AM JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE, THE KEY
01:00:18PM COMPONENTS THAT WERE DISCUSSED TODAY OF THE PERCENTAGE --
01:00:22PM MINIMAL PERCENTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OTHER -- THAT
01:00:25PM SEEMS TO THE BULK OF THE CONVERSATION TODAY POTENTIALLY.
01:00:29PM IF YOU -- IF WOULD YOU LIKE MAYBE THIS GROUP COME -- OR MR.
01:00:33PM DRUMGO COULD COME BACK AND REPORT WHERE AFTER TAKING IN
01:00:36PM INPUT IN, WHERE -- WHERE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT
01:00:41PM PERCENTAGE-WISE AND MINIMUM CRITERIA BEFORE THEY ISSUE
01:00:44PM AN RFP AT THE MEETING ON FEBRUARY.
01:00:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU DO THAT ON A FEBRUARY 29 OR IS THAT
01:00:49PM TOO SOON?
01:00:50PM OR DO YOU NEED TO DO IT IN MARCH.
01:00:52PM >> I THINK -- FEBRUARY, MARCH?
01:00:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
01:00:58PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND MAKE A NEW MOTION
01:01:01PM THAT WE ASK CITY STAFF, HOUSING STAFF, TO COME BACK AT THE
01:01:06PM MARCH MEETING -- CRA MEETING TO PRESENT THE DRAFT RFP FOR
01:01:11PM FEEDBACK FROM CRA BOARD AND THE PUBLIC.
01:01:14PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK, AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE THE KEY
01:01:20PM CRITERIA DEALING WITH PRIMARILY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
01:01:23PM COMPONENT AND THE SCORING MATRIX OF HOW YOU WOULD MOVE
01:01:26PM FORWARD WITH THE SCORING.
01:01:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS YOU SAID, NORMALLY YOU WOULD NOT DO THAT.
01:01:30PM BY MAKING THIS MOTION, WE ARE DOING SOMETHING THAT WE NEVER
01:01:32PM HAVE DONE BEFORE.
01:01:33PM I APPRECIATE YOUR OFFER, BUT ANYWAY, WILL PROVIDE AN EXTRA
01:01:38PM LAYER OF TRANSPARENCY FOR THE PUBLIC SO THE CRA AND CITY ARE
01:01:41PM NOT CRITICIZED FOR HOW THE RFP IS DONE.
01:01:45PM IF THE PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THE RFP, IT IS
01:01:49PM CLEAR THAT IT IS OPENLY DONE AND NOT TARGETED.
01:01:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A SECOND FOR BOARD MEMBER CARLSON'S
01:01:56PM MOTION?
01:01:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
01:01:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE MOTION DIES.
01:01:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
01:02:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
01:02:05PM I BET YOU WE COULD GET TO A SECOND IF WE TOOK IT AFTER 1:00,
01:02:09PM AND WE HAD LUNCH.
01:02:11PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I JUST SAY AGAIN THE MOTION WAS JUST TO
01:02:15PM ASK THEM TO COME BACK IN THE MARCH MEETING TO GIVE US -- TO
01:02:18PM -- TO DISCUSS A DRAFT OF THE RFP.
01:02:21PM THAT'S ALL.
01:02:22PM MY POINT, IT SHOULD BE A PUBLIC -- IT SHOULD BE A PUBLIC
01:02:28PM DISCUSSION.
01:02:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SECOND IT.
01:02:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
01:02:30PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON TO BRING IT BACK IN
01:02:33PM MARCH.
01:02:33PM SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
01:02:35PM ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE?
01:02:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
01:02:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
01:02:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
01:02:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
01:02:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
01:02:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
01:03:00PM >>CLERK: IT'S TIED.
01:03:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE TIE?
01:03:08PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: UNDER ROBERTS RULES, IT WOULD FAILED.
01:03:12PM I HAVE TO LOOK AT CITY COUNCIL RULES, IT MAY GO TO NEXT
01:03:17PM MONTH.
01:03:17PM I WILL GO CHECK BACK ON THAT.
01:03:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ACTUALLY WE CAN'T MAKE CRA MOTIONS WHEN WE
01:03:24PM ARE NOT SITTING AS A CRA.
01:03:26PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WITH THIS ITEM --
01:03:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
01:03:41PM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
01:03:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: ON -- ON THE LOGO ISSUE, WE MAY BE ABLE TO
01:03:46PM RESOLVE IT QUICKLY.
01:03:47PM I THINK WE ALL READ THE MEMO.
01:03:49PM THE IDEA IS THAT THERE IS AN YBOR -- YCDC IN THE PAST YBOR
01:03:57PM LOGO.
01:03:57PM DIDN'T HAVE A YCDC LOGO.
01:04:00PM TWO DIFFERENT ONES.
01:04:02PM BRENDA WENT WAY BACK IN HISTORY TO LOOK AT IT.
01:04:05PM THE IDEA IS TO BUILD A COMMON BRAND IN YBOR.
01:04:08PM FOR EXAMPLE, A HOTEL OR ANOTHER VENUE COULD HAVE THEIR LOGO
01:04:12PM AND THE YBOR LOGO.
01:04:14PM WE DID THIS IN ST. PETE 30 YEARS AGO IN PROMOTING DOWNTOWN.
01:04:17PM THE THING IS, THAT WE -- WE WOULD -- WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A
01:04:21PM LICENSE AGREEMENT TO TRY TO RESTRICT HOW PEOPLE USE IT.
01:04:24PM THE YBOR CHAMBER AND THE NEW YCDC WOULD LIKE TO USE IT.
01:04:31PM WE READ MORRIS'S MEMO.
01:04:33PM I THINK WE CAN CONVEY WHATEVER RIGHTS THAT DON'T MAYBE EXIST
01:04:36PM TO THE CITY INSTEAD OF THE CRA.
01:04:38PM BECAUSE MORRIS THINKS THE CITY OWN IT IS ANYWAY.
01:04:41PM BY HAVING A LICENSE AGREEMENT, THERE MAY BE SOME LEVEL OF
01:04:44PM PROTECTION.
01:04:45PM AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WE CAN CREATE SOMETHING ELSE.
01:04:47PM THE IDEA IS TO HAVE -- IS TO ALLOW, ENABLE ORGANIZATIONS IN
01:04:53PM YBOR TO HAVE A COMMON LOGO TO PROMOTE FOR YBOR CITY ITSELF
01:04:57PM IN ADDITION ITS EVEN BUSINESSES.
01:04:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ATTORNEY MASSEY.
01:05:01PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WHAT THE MEMO DOES SAY IS THAT THE -- I AM
01:05:04PM NOT AN INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY EXPERT.
01:05:07PM AND I WILL SAY THAT UP-FRONT.
01:05:08PM BUT IT DOES SAY, ITS LICENSING AND TRADEMARKING ITEMS LIKE
01:05:16PM THE YBOR CITY CREST IS PROBLEMATIC OF ALL TO DO.
01:05:20PM AND THE TYPICAL WAY THAT THAT HAS BEEN DEALT WITH AND THE
01:05:24PM WAY WE DEAL WITH THE CITY SEAL AND SUGGESTING THAT IT BE
01:05:28PM DONE WITH RESOLUTION.
01:05:29PM I PREPARED TWO RESOLUTIONS, ONE FOR YBOR CITY DEVELOPMENT
01:05:37PM CORPORATION FOR THE CHAMBER.
01:05:39PM THE CREST TO THE EXTENT WE HAVE A RIGHT TO REGULATE THAT.
01:05:42PM WHENEVER WE WANT TO.
01:05:44PM WHATEVER I AM ASKING, IF THEY ARE ADVERTISING EVENTS OR THEY
01:05:47PM ARE ADVERTISING MERCHANDISE, THAT SORT OF THING, THAT THEY
01:05:50PM MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THAT -- THAT THE USE OF THAT CREST IS NOT
01:05:54PM SIGNIFY THAT THE CRA -- THAT THE IT IS A CRA-SPONSORED EVE
01:06:00PM VENT.
01:06:01PM WE CAN PREPARE A SIMILAR RESOLUTION TO CITY COUNCIL TO
01:06:04PM CONVEY RIGHTS TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND IF OTHERS WANTS TO
01:06:07PM USE IT, TO HAVE THE PROCESSING AND HAVE IT DONE VERY
01:06:10PM QUICKLY.
01:06:11PM I DO THINK THAT IT DOES ALSO GIVE YOU A LEVEL TO FIGURE OUT
01:06:15PM WHO IS UTILIZING WHAT IS -- WHAT IS ARGUABLY INTELLECTUAL
01:06:20PM POLICY.
01:06:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE THE RESOLUTIONS.
01:06:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:06:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTIONS.
01:06:28PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:06:30PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
01:06:32PM ALL THOSE OPPOSED?
01:06:33PM MOTION CARRIES.
01:06:34PM OKAY, YES, BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
01:06:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: TO MOVE THIS ALONG, I MOTION FOR CRA TO REPORT
01:06:41PM BACK ON THE EAST TAMPA GROCERY STORE AT THE MAIN MEETING.
01:06:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS FIRST?
01:06:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: ISN'T THAT BEFORE?
01:06:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GROCERY STORE COMING BACK ON 11.
01:06:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: APRIL 11?
01:06:55PM DIDN'T YOU WANT IT IN MAY?
01:06:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS WHAT IT SAID CONTINUED TO APRIL 11.
01:07:00PM >> IT WAS CONTINUED INTO APRIL 11, BUT TALKING TO THE
01:07:05PM STAKEHOLDER LOOKING LIKE MAY.
01:07:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAY WHAT?
01:07:10PM >> MAY 11?
01:07:12PM >> YOU MOVED ITEMS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO DATE.
01:07:16PM IF YOU WANT TO ADJUST THAT, WE CAN DO THAT NOW.
01:07:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
01:07:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
01:07:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:07:22PM OPPOSED?
01:07:23PM MOTION CARRIES.
01:07:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE APPROVALS.
01:07:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, THAT IS THE NEXT THING.
01:07:29PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE CONSENT ITEMS FROM BOARD MEMBER
01:07:34PM HURTAK.
01:07:34PM CAN I HAVE A SECOND.
01:07:37PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: EVERY ITEM BUT 16.
01:07:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 14, 15, 17-19.
01:07:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND BY MIRANDA.
01:07:44PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:07:45PM ANY OPPOSED?
01:07:48PM OKAY.
01:07:48PM NEW BUSINESS.
01:07:49PM BOARDS MEMBER CLENDENIN.
01:07:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
01:07:53PM IN DISCUSSIONS WITH DIRECTOR MOODY, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR
01:07:58PM SERVING ON OUR CACS, I THINK THEY NEED TO BE TIGHTENED UP.
01:08:02PM ONE, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENTS FOR SOMEBODY TO BE A CITIZEN
01:08:05PM OF TAMPA RESIDENT WHICH SEEMS KIND OF -- I THINK IT IS
01:08:08PM INTUITIVE THAT THEY SHOULD BE A CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENT.
01:08:13PM I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED.
01:08:14PM ALSO FOR FUTURE APPOINTMENTS.
01:08:16PM ALSO, I THINK WE NEED TO TIGHTEN UP BETWEEN THE -- FOR BOTH
01:08:20PM CATEGORIES OF EX-OFFICIO AND THE OTHER CATEGORIES FOR
01:08:25PM PARTICIPANTS, THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME QUANTITATIVE TIE
01:08:29PM TO EITHER THE -- EITHER THE POSITION THAT THE DISTRICT THAT
01:08:33PM THEY SERVING IN.
01:08:35PM IT NEEDS TO BE EITHER RESIDENTS -- I THINK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE
01:08:40PM THAT EXCEPT FOR EX-OFFICIOS.
01:08:43PM WE NEED TO INCLUDE THAT FOR EX-OFFICIOS
01:08:46PM THEY HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT, HAVE A JOB AND OWN LAND.
01:08:49PM WE HAVE TO CHECK OFF SOME REQUIREMENT SOMETHING THAT TIES
01:08:52PM THEM TO THAT INSTEAD OF BEING ARBITRARY, SOMETHING THAT TIES
01:08:55PM THEM TO WHAT THEY ARE REPRESENTING.
01:08:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
01:08:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I MODIFY?
01:09:01PM THE ONLY THING IS, I THINK THAT MAYBE IF YOU COME TO EACH OF
01:09:04PM US INDIVIDUALLY AND GET OUR IDEAS FOR THAT, AND THEN MAYBE
01:09:07PM COME BACK.
01:09:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN FACT, I AM JUST REQUESTING THAT --
01:09:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, OKAY.
01:09:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REQUESTING THAT THEY MOVE THAT FORWARD TO
01:09:18PM US.
01:09:18PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE APPLICATION NEEDS TO BE APPROVED.
01:09:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CORRECT.
01:09:21PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: REVIEW AND REVISE A CAC POLICY, WE WILL
01:09:24PM BRING THAT BACK TO YOU.
01:09:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GET YOUR INPUT INDIVIDUALLY.
01:09:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A BRILLIANT IDEA.
01:09:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS UNDER CRA?
01:09:32PM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
01:09:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE
01:09:37PM YBOR CAC TO PRESENT FOR FIVE MINUTES OR LESS ON APRIL 11 AS
01:09:42PM TO ITS POSSIBILITY OF FUNDING MAJOR ARTS PROJECTS IN YBOR.
01:09:46PM >> SECOND.
01:09:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
01:09:51PM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
01:09:53PM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
01:09:55PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:09:56PM ANY OPPOSED?
01:09:58PM OKAY.
01:09:58PM MOTION CARRIES.
01:09:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
01:10:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE ARE -- ANYONE ELSE?
01:10:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: RECEIVE AND FILE.
01:10:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION RECEIVE AND FILE BY BOARD MEMBER
01:10:09PM VIERA.
01:10:09PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
01:10:11PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:10:12PM OPPOSED.
01:10:13PM MOTION CARRIES.
01:10:13PM WE ARE DISMISSED.

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