TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JANUARY 11, 2024, 9:00 A.M.
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9:04:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.
9:04:55AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
9:04:57AM ORDER.
9:04:58AM AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON TO INTRODUCE
9:05:00AM OUR INVOCATION FOR TODAY.
9:05:01AM YES, SIR.
9:05:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:05:03AM I'VE GOT CHRIS DOTSON, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO STAND AT THE
9:05:08AM PODIUM.
9:05:08AM HE GIVES A REAL SHORT BIO, WHICH I APPRECIATE.
9:05:13AM CHRIS IS THE -- EVEN THOUGH WE COULD SAY MORE -- CHRIS IS
9:05:13AM THE TEACHING PASTOR AT SOUTH TAMPA FELLOWSHIP CHURCH.
9:05:16AM HE IS THE HUSBAND OF RACHEL AND DAD TO TWO KIDS, ROSY AND
9:05:20AM REMINGTON.
9:05:23AM HE HAS AN UNDERGRADUATE AND MASTERS IN BIBLICAL THEOLOGICAL
9:05:27AM STUDIES AND CURRENTLY WORKING A DOCTORATE IN THEOLOGY AND
9:05:30AM MODERN CULTURE.
9:05:32AM PLEASE STAND AND WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:05:36AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, FOR THE INVITATION
9:05:39AM HERE TODAY.
9:05:40AM I DO WANT TO SAY IT IS AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
9:05:44AM I WANT TO BEGIN THIS YEAR BY FIRST SAYING THANK YOU TO
9:05:47AM YOU-ALL.
9:05:49AM I THINK YOU ARE IN A THANKLESS PROFESSION, WHICH MEANS YOU
9:05:52AM ARE PROBABLY TOLD WHAT YOU ARE DOING WRONG MORE THAN YOU ARE
9:05:55AM THANKED FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING RIGHT.
9:05:58AM -- LEADER THAT IS ABOVE BEING CHALLENGED, IT IS HELPFUL I
9:06:02AM THINK FOR OUR SOULS TO BE TOLD THANK YOU.
9:06:05AM AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, I WANT TO THANK YOU TO EACH
9:06:08AM OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY.
9:06:10AM I INVITE TO YOU PAY WITH ME.
9:06:12AM FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE BEGIN TODAY BY TELLING YOU THANK YOU.
9:06:16AM I THINK IT'S SO EASY TO WAKE UP EACH MORNING AND TAKE FOR
9:06:22AM GRANTED THE LIFE YOU HAVE GIVEN TO US, BUT WE'RE ALL PEOPLE
9:06:26AM THAT YOU HAVE MADE WITH A UNIQUE PURPOSE AND ALL OF US ARE
9:06:30AM INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU LOVE VERY DEEPLY.
9:06:33AM SO, LORD, WE JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR TODAY.
9:06:36AM THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE ABILITY TO BE HERE RIGHT NOW IN
9:06:39AM THIS MOMENT.
9:06:40AM THANK YOU FOR THE COUNTLESS WAYS THAT YOU HAVE BLESSED US,
9:06:44AM EVEN IF WE FAIL TO RECOGNIZE THOSE BLESSINGS.
9:06:46AM THANK YOU, JESUS, FOR LIVING THE LIFE THAT WE COULD NOT
9:06:50AM LIVE, DYING A DEATH THAT WE DESERVE AND RISING AGAIN TO
9:06:54AM PROVE THAT WE CAN FIND HOPE AND LIFE IN YOU.
9:06:57AM LORD, THANK YOU FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEIR PURSUIT TO
9:07:00AM HELPING TAMPA FLOURISH.
9:07:02AM TODAY AS WE START A BRAND-NEW YEAR, WE WANT TO PAUSE.
9:07:06AM WE'RE PAUSING TO REMIND OURSELVES THAT OUR WISDOM IS NOT
9:07:10AM ENOUGH.
9:07:10AM WE'RE PAUSING TO REMIND OURSELVES THAT OUR EFFORTS ARE
9:07:14AM ALWAYS GOING TO FALL SHORT WITHOUT YOUR BLESSING.
9:07:17AM AND WE'RE PAUSING TO REMIND OURSELVES THAT, JESUS, WE NEED
9:07:21AM YOU THIS YEAR.
9:07:22AM WE NEED YOU TO GRANT US WISDOM WHERE WE ARE FOOLISH, COURAGE
9:07:26AM WHERE WE ARE FEARFUL AND HUMILITY WHERE PRIDE SEEPS IN.
9:07:31AM EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM IS CALLED TO BE A LEADER.
9:07:33AM JESUS, YOU SHOWED US THE BEST WAY TO BE A LEADER IS FIRST BY
9:07:38AM BEING A SERVANT.
9:07:40AM GIVE US THE GRACE TO SERVE OUR CITY, TO SERVE EVERYONE, FROM
9:07:43AM THOSE WHO ARE LIKE US TO THOSE WHO DIFFER, TO THOSE WE GET
9:07:47AM ALONG WITH AND THOSE WITH WHOM WE DISAGREE AND TO THOSE WE
9:07:51AM KNOW AND THOSE WE ARE YET TO MEET.
9:07:53AM LORD BLESS OUR EFFORTS THIS YEAR BEGINNING WITH THIS MEETING
9:07:56AM TODAY, WE PRAY.
9:07:57AM IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
9:08:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AMEN.
9:08:01AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:08:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:08:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:08:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:08:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:08:26AM >> HENDERSON?
9:08:27AM VIERA?
9:08:27AM MIRANDA?
9:08:27AM MANISCALCO?
9:08:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:08:29AM >>THE CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:08:31AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER
9:08:33AM 21st, 2023 MEETING?
9:08:35AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:08:36AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:08:38AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:38AM AYE.
9:08:39AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:08:40AM ALL RIGHT.
9:08:42AM I'LL GO OVER SOME HOUSEKEEPING ON THE AGENDA.
9:08:45AM I RECEIVED A MEMO FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON WHO WILL BE
9:08:48AM ABSENT TODAY DUE TO PERSONAL REASONS.
9:08:50AM I HAVE THIS MEMO TO SUBMIT.
9:08:52AM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
9:08:55AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
9:08:56AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:08:58AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:58AM AYE.
9:08:59AM ALL RIGHT.
9:09:00AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU'RE GOING TO REMOVE ITEMS 1 AND 2,
9:09:03AM IS THAT CORRECT?
9:09:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, IF I MAY.
9:09:05AM THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY,
9:09:08AM UNFORTUNATELY.
9:09:09AM AND THE FIRE ITEM HAS ALSO BEEN REQUESTED TO BE MOVED.
9:09:12AM IF I MAY, I MOTION FOR THAT.
9:09:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
9:09:15AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:09:17AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:17AM AYE.
9:09:19AM ALL RIGHT.
9:09:19AM ITEM 39 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA WILL BE HEARD FIRST AFTER
9:09:23AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:09:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
9:09:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:09:31AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:09:33AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:09:34AM AYE.
9:09:35AM AFTER ITEM 39, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE A WALK-ON TO BE HEARD
9:09:39AM RIGHT AFTER THAT.
9:09:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: ON THE WALK-ON, THE PUBLIC HAS NOT HEARD
9:09:50AM ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WALKING ON.
9:09:54AM IT REFERS TO THE FIREFIGHTERS.
9:09:56AM I 100% SUPPORT OUR FIREFIGHTERS BUT I OBJECT TO THE PROCESS
9:10:01AM THAT WAS USED TO PUT THIS IN IN A WAY THAT HAS NOT PROVIDED
9:10:06AM TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC.
9:10:06AM THIS AGREEMENT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, AND IT
9:10:10AM WAS RECOMMENDED TO THE FIREFIGHTERS THAT IT BE WALKED ON AS
9:10:14AM FAR BACK AS DECEMBER.
9:10:16AM BEFORE WE AGREE TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE THE
9:10:20AM ADMINISTRATION JUST TO EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC AND TO COUNCIL
9:10:22AM WHY THIS WAS BEING WALKED ON RATHER THAN HAVING IT PUBLICLY
9:10:27AM DISCLOSED IN THE AGENDA AND HAVING BACKUP.
9:10:31AM WE RECEIVED -- CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED BACKUP YESTERDAY
9:10:33AM AFTERNOON.
9:10:34AM THE PUBLIC HAS NOT RECEIVED THE BACKUP, MOST LIKELY AT ALL,
9:10:38AM WHEN WE COULD HAVE VOTED IN DECEMBER TO PUT THIS ON THE
9:10:41AM AGENDA.
9:10:41AM NOT TO TALK ABOUT THE SUBSTANCE OF THE PROJECT, BUT BEFORE
9:10:45AM YOU AGREE TO PUT SOMETHING THAT IS A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR
9:10:48AM CONTRACT ON THE AGENDA WITHOUT PUBLIC OVERSIGHT, I WOULD
9:10:52AM LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY ARE PROPOSING
9:10:55AM DOING THAT.
9:10:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK I ACTUALLY WOULD BE A PERSON TO
9:11:01AM RESPOND TO THAT, AS THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE
9:11:04AM WHO MADE THE REQUEST FOR THIS.
9:11:06AM THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RECENTLY AGREED UPON BY TAMPA
9:11:09AM FIREFIGHTER 754.
9:11:10AM PARDON MY VOICE, BY THE WAY.
9:11:12AM GOT OVER COVID A FEW DAYS AGO.
9:11:14AM NEGATIVE, BY THE WAY.
9:11:17AM NEGATIVE, OF COURSE.
9:11:18AM BUT THIS WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT AN AGREEMENT WAS
9:11:22AM EXECUTED AND TODAY WOULD BE THE DAY IN WHICH THE TAMPA
9:11:25AM FIREFIGHTERS WOULD LIKE THIS DONE.
9:11:27AM WHY IS THAT?
9:11:28AM NEXT WEEK CRA AND THEN EVENING COUNCIL.
9:11:30AM NOT THE BEST TIME TO TAKE SOMETHING UP.
9:11:32AM THEREAFTER THE FIREFIGHTERS WILL BE GONE AT A CONVENTION.
9:11:35AM THEREFORE THIS WOULD BE THE BEST DAY.
9:11:37AM WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF WALK-ONS COME THROUGH TAMPA CITY
9:11:39AM COUNCIL.
9:11:40AM THE MOST RECENT BEING CRA IN SEPTEMBER, WHERE TWO DAYS
9:11:43AM BEFORE WE VOTED ON IT, THERE WAS A WALK-ON WITH BACKUP
9:11:46AM MATERIALS GIVEN TWO DAYS BEFORE THIS, WE RECEIVED ONE DAY
9:11:50AM BEFORE ON EXPANSION OF THE $25 MILLION STRAZ CENTER
9:11:53AM AGREEMENT.
9:11:54AM I DID NOT OBJECT TO THAT WALK-ON EVEN THOUGH ULTIMATELY
9:11:58AM VOTED AGAINST THAT, BY THE WAY.
9:12:00AM FOR ME THE PROCEDURE IS FINE.
9:12:02AM WE WILL BE HEARING ABOUT THIS.
9:12:04AM WE DID GET BACKUP MATERIALS ON THIS YESTERDAY, BUT I THINK
9:12:06AM THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN ALL SUPPORT.
9:12:08AM THAT'S WHY I DID THE MEMO.
9:12:09AM I THINK IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO BECAUSE THESE MEN AND
9:12:12AM WOMEN WANT TO GET PAID SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
9:12:15AM IF WE WAIT, WE'LL END UP DOING THIS DURING THE EVENING
9:12:18AM COUNCIL AS OPPOSED TO DOING IT TODAY WHEN WE CAN GET IT
9:12:21AM THROUGH AND DO THE RIGHT THING FOR SOMETHING, BY THE WAY,
9:12:24AM AGAIN, NOBODY HERE, INCLUDING COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS ANY
9:12:27AM ANIMUS TO FIREFIGHTERS, OF COURSE, SO THIS IS A MATTER OF
9:12:31AM PROCEDURE AS OPPOSED TO SUBSTANCE.
9:12:32AM BUT AS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION IN THE MEMO, I THINK THE
9:12:36AM EXPLANATION IS WARRANTED.
9:12:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD.
9:12:38AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:12:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
9:12:40AM I'M LOOKING AT IT A DIFFERENT WAY.
9:12:42AM I SEE WALK-ONS FROM TIME TO TIME.
9:12:45AM WHAT I LIKE -- I KNOW BETTER TRANSPARENCY AND BETTER
9:12:48AM UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON ON A DAILY BASIS AND THE
9:12:51AM PUBLIC BE WELL AWARE OF IT, I WOULD LIKE EVERY WALK-ON TO
9:12:55AM COME WITH A NUMBER.
9:12:56AM WE JUST HAVE WALK-ONS, THEY DON'T HAVE A NUMBER.
9:12:59AM I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY WALK-ONS AND HOW MANY TENS OF
9:13:02AM THOUSANDS OF THINGS WE HAVE IN THE YEAR SO WE KNOW THIS IS
9:13:06AM THE FIRST TIME, SECOND TIME, 50th TIME OR 100th TIME
9:13:09AM THAT THERE IS A WALK-ON BROUGHT ON BY THIS ADMINISTRATION OR
9:13:13AM ANY ADMINISTRATION HENCEFORTH.
9:13:15AM THAT WAY WE AND THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW MANY
9:13:18AM WALK-ONS COMPARED TO THE RATIO OF ITEMS.
9:13:20AM I APPRECIATE THAT IF SOMEHOW THE CHAIR CAN WORK WITH THE
9:13:23AM ADMINISTRATION IN GETTING THESE WALK-ONS NUMBERED.
9:13:26AM APPRECIATE IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:13:27AM HATE TO PUT THE BURDEN ON YOU, BUT YOU ARE THE LEADER.
9:13:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK NOW
9:13:32AM OR WAIT UNTIL THE ITEM COMES UP?
9:13:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR, I REQUESTED THAT HE SPEAK.
9:13:36AM I'LL MAKE A MOTION IN NEW BUSINESS TO TRY TO PREVENT
9:13:38AM WALK-ONS, ESPECIALLY AT HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNTS BECAUSE I THINK
9:13:41AM THE PUBLIC DESERVES TO HAVE FULL VIEW AND TRANSPARENCY ON
9:13:44AM THIS.
9:13:44AM BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION TO OFFICIALLY STATE
9:13:50AM WHY THEY THOUGHT IT WAS NECESSARY IN DECEMBER TO NOT ALLOW A
9:13:54AM CITY COUNCIL TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA AND INSTEAD HAVE IT
9:13:57AM BE A WALK-ON TODAY.
9:13:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT, CHIEF BENNETT, CHIEF
9:14:00AM BENNETT.
9:14:02AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:14:04AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:14:05AM AND GOOD MORNING TO OUR PUBLIC.
9:14:07AM IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:14:11AM WE RECEIVED INFORMATION THAT THE VOTE OFF OF THE TENTATIVE
9:14:16AM AGREEMENTS WAS HANDLED BY THE UNION ON JANUARY 5th OF THIS
9:14:23AM YEAR, WHICH WAS LAST FRIDAY.
9:14:25AM I DON'T RECALL EVER BEING IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO SAY
9:14:31AM THAT THERE WOULD BE A WALK-ON AS OPPOSED TO REGULAR AGENDA
9:14:34AM UNTIL THAT VOTE HAPPENS.
9:14:36AM WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THE VOTING PROCESS.
9:14:38AM THAT'S A PROCESS THAT IS TIME AND DISTANCE BASED ON THE
9:14:41AM SCHEDULING.
9:14:42AM WHEN THAT CAME TO THE ADMINISTRATION'S ATTENTION ON THAT
9:14:45AM FRIDAY, I WAS OUT OF TOWN AND ON MONDAY WE TRIED TO PUT
9:14:49AM THINGS INTO ACTION TO ALLOW COUNCIL TO HAVE AN INFORMED
9:14:52AM DECISION.
9:14:54AM TO ANSWER COUNCILMAN MIRANDA'S QUESTIONS, I DID LOOK BACK AT
9:14:57AM THESE BECAUSE THEY ARE CONCERNING.
9:14:58AM WE DON'T WANT WALK-ONS FOR THE PUBLIC.
9:15:01AM WE WANT THINGS TO GO THROUGH THE NATURAL AGENDA PROCESS, BUT
9:15:03AM IT IS A FACT THAT THE ONLY DRIVER HERE IS TO MEET A PAYROLL
9:15:06AM TIMELINE FOR FIREFIGHTERS BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN AN ELONGATED
9:15:10AM NEGOTIATION.
9:15:11AM THERE HAS BEEN 11 PUBLIC MEETINGS PUBLICLY NOTICED MEETINGS
9:15:14AM OVER THIS NEGOTIATION WITH FIRE, STARTING BACK TO JULY.
9:15:17AM SO ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC COULD HAVE JOINED IN THE MEETINGS
9:15:21AM DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS BUT THERE WERE 11 PUBLIC.
9:15:24AM THIS WILL BE THE 12th PUBLIC MEETING OVER THIS NEGOTIATION
9:15:27AM PROCESS.
9:15:27AM SO WE FELT IT WAS REASONABLE TO PUT THE PACKAGE TOGETHER,
9:15:31AM LET COUNCIL DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT TO ALLOW THE WALK-ON OR
9:15:34AM NOT WHICH WOULD THEN CREATE OTHER CONTINUANCE OPPORTUNITIES
9:15:37AM AND THEN WE COULD ALSO GET INTO THE MERITS OF THE CONTRACT,
9:15:40AM WHICH I AM TOLD FROM THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER IS IN THE
9:15:45AM SPACE OF THE CURRENT BUDGET.
9:15:47AM WE OBVIOUSLY CONSIDER THE BUDGET ISSUES, THE AMOUNT OF THIS
9:15:51AM AMENDMENT TO THIS CONTRACT THAT IS ALREADY PREEXISTING WHICH
9:15:53AM IS REALLY JUST AN AMENDMENT IS A LITTLE OVER A MILLION
9:15:56AM DOLLARS OVER THE LIFE OF THIS CONTRACT FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR,
9:16:01AM I SHOULD SAY.
9:16:02AM AND IT IS WHAT WE CONSIDER WITHIN THE MARGINS OF ERROR OF
9:16:05AM THE BUDGETS ALREADY APPROVED WHICH MEANS WE MAY NEVER HAVE
9:16:07AM TO BRING A BUDGET AMENDMENT BACK TO COUNCIL.
9:16:10AM IT IS A CONSENT GRADE ITEM.
9:16:13AM WE JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE ON A WALK-ON THAT WE HAVE A FULL
9:16:16AM CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
9:16:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TWO FINAL QUESTIONS.
9:16:21AM DON'T YOU THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IN DECEMBER TO PUT
9:16:25AM IT ON -- WE'RE GETTING AN ECHO -- ON THE AGENDA SUBJECT TO
9:16:30AM APPROVAL BY THE UNION.
9:16:31AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I UNDERSTAND.
9:16:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: AGAIN, I DON'T OBJECT TO THE CONTENT OF THIS
9:16:36AM AND I FULLY SUPPORT THE FIREFIGHTERS AND THE UNION.
9:16:39AM MY PROBLEM IS ABOUT PROCESS.
9:16:41AM WOULDN'T IT HAVE BEEN BETTER TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA IN
9:16:44AM DECEMBER, HAVE CITY COUNCIL VOTE ON IT SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
9:16:47AM ON THE AGENDA, PUBLICLY NOTICED?
9:16:48AM WHY, IF IT WAS APPROVED ON FRIDAY, WHY WOULD WE NOT -- WHY
9:16:53AM WOULD AT LEAST CITY COUNCIL NOT HAVE GOTTEN THE DOCUMENTS
9:16:55AM UNTIL YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND WHY WAS IT NOT POSTED TO
9:16:59AM OnBase SO THE PUBLIC COULD SEE THE DOCUMENTS?
9:17:01AM >>JOHN BENNETT: BOTH GREAT QUESTIONS.
9:17:03AM THE OnBase WINDOW CLOSES FOR US FOR THE AGENDA, THE FINAL
9:17:07AM DRAFT.
9:17:07AM WE TRY TO GET EVERYTHING IN BY THURSDAY BEFORE.
9:17:09AM I GOT THIS LETTER FROM THE UNION ABOUT THEIR VOTE ON THAT
9:17:12AM FRIDAY MORNING, A DAY LATER.
9:17:13AM AGAIN, I WAS OUT OF TOWN ON A FAMILY FRIEND EMERGENCY.
9:17:17AM TO BUILD THE RESOLUTION WITH LEGAL TOOK A DAY TO MAKE SURE
9:17:22AM WE PUT OUT BRIEFING NOTICES TO COUNCIL TOOK PART OF THAT DAY
9:17:26AM TO EFFECTUATE THOSE BRIEFINGS, TO GIVE COUNCIL SOME
9:17:29AM UNDERSTANDING.
9:17:30AM ALSO, WE HAD TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE FINANCIALS
9:17:32AM WERE IN THOSE MARGINS SO WE KNEW THAT IT WAS WITHIN THE
9:17:36AM RELEVANCE OF NOT NEEDING A BUDGET AMENDMENT WHICH AGAIN KIND
9:17:39AM OF MAKES IT A CONSENT GRADE ITEM.
9:17:42AM TO THE ANSWER ABOUT DECEMBER, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK
9:17:44AM WE CAN DISCUSS.
9:17:46AM I'LL TELL YOU THIS IS A SUBJECTIVE MOVE.
9:17:48AM ONCE THE TENTATIVE AGREEMENTS WERE FULFILLED WITH THE
9:17:51AM NEGOTIATIONS, AGAIN, AFTER 11 MEETINGS, I WILL TAKE
9:17:56AM RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE FACT THAT I THINK THE UNION DESERVES
9:17:59AM THE RIGHT TO GET THAT VOTE DONE WITHOUT INTERFERENCE OF THE
9:18:03AM ADMINISTRATION.
9:18:03AM SO IF I BRING -- I DON'T BEGRUDGE THE UNION TO BRING THAT
9:18:08AM FORWARD THAT THEY HAVE AN AGREEMENT.
9:18:09AM I THINK IF THE ADMINISTRATION BRINGS THAT FORWARD WE HAVE A
9:18:12AM TENTATIVE AGREEMENT, EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ALL DONE IN THE
9:18:14AM SUNSHINE, THEN THAT'S PREEMPTING THE VOTING PROCESS.
9:18:18AM IF THAT'S BAD JUDGMENT, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LEARN
9:18:22AM FROM GOING FORWARD.
9:18:23AM I FELT THE UNION COULD HAVE COME IN AND REACHED A TENTATIVE
9:18:25AM AGREEMENT IN DECEMBER, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD THE
9:18:28AM RESOLUTION UNTIL THE VOTE HAPPENS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO
9:18:31AM INFLUENCE THE VOTING PROCESS FOR THE MEMBERSHIP.
9:18:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL HEAR THE WALK-ON AFTER ITEM 39 AND
9:18:36AM WE'LL VOTE IT UP OR DOWN.
9:18:38AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:18:39AM IT WILL BE PART OF THE ADDENDUM TO THE AGENDA.
9:18:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS YOUR MEMO, WITH YOUR REQUEST.
9:18:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I SEE MR. STOCCO --
9:18:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
9:18:53AM TAKE THE VOTE FIRST.
9:18:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, IF I MAY, FOR
9:18:58AM THAT TO HAVE THIS AS A WALK-ON.
9:19:01AM AGAIN, I WAS CALLED BY MR. STOCCO, I BELIEVE IT WAS, ON
9:19:05AM FRIDAY, WHEN I WAS SICK, IN FACT, WITH COVID.
9:19:08AM AND THEY CALLED ME BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE TIME WAS RIGHT,
9:19:12AM AS CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT SAID, WHEN THEIR UNION WAS ABLE TO
9:19:16AM EXECUTE AND AUTHORIZE AND SUPPORT THE AGREEMENT IS WHEN THE
9:19:19AM TIME IS RIPE.
9:19:20AM THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS TODAY.
9:19:22AM I THINK THE ONLY ERROR WOULD BE ON OUR PART IS TO NOT HAVE
9:19:25AM THIS HEARD TODAY.
9:19:26AM I MAKE THE MOTION, IF I MAY.
9:19:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:19:30AM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
9:19:30AM THIS IS TO PUT THE WALK-ON ON THE AGENDA.
9:19:33AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:19:34AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:19:35AM AYE.
9:19:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I MAKE?
9:19:38AM I WANT TO SAY I FULLY SUPPORT THE FIREFIGHTERS.
9:19:41AM THIS DECISION IS NOT BY COUNCILMAN VIERA AND IT'S NOT BY
9:19:46AM CITY COUNCIL.
9:19:46AM THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IS BETWEEN THE ADMINISTRATION AND
9:19:50AM THE FIREFIGHTERS UNION.
9:19:51AM THE ADMINISTRATION SHOULD HAVE HANDLED THIS IN A DIFFERENT
9:19:53AM WAY.
9:19:54AM I VOTE YES TO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA BUT I WOULD LIKE THE
9:19:58AM ADMINISTRATION TO KEEP THE PUBLIC IN MIND.
9:19:59AM THE PUBLIC DESERVES TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
9:20:01AM SO IN THE FUTURE, WE NEED TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT FOR THE
9:20:05AM PUBLIC.
9:20:06AM THANK YOU.
9:20:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
9:20:11AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: POINT AND CON POINT.
9:20:12AM I JUST HEARD SOMETHING CONTRADICTORY.
9:20:15AM MR. BENNETT, WAS THIS EVER AT ANY TIME PUBLISHED ANYWHERE
9:20:19AM FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF IT?
9:20:20AM THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR ME.
9:20:26AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:20:29AM OTHER THAN THE 11 MEETINGS THAT WERE PUBLICLY NOTICED FOR
9:20:32AM THE NEGOTIATION WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S UNION WHICH
9:20:36AM STARTED IN JULY AND ENDED IN DECEMBER, THOSE 11 MEETINGS
9:20:39AM WERE PUBLICLY NOTICED WHICH IS THE PROGRESSIVE PROCESS TO
9:20:42AM GET WHERE WE ARE.
9:20:43AM AS FAR AS THIS BEING NOTICED, I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO LEGAL.
9:20:46AM BUT WE PUT THE MEMO OUT YESTERDAY AND HOW THAT GETS INTO
9:20:49AM OnBase AND PUBLIC AWARENESS WOULD BE THE 12th ITEM.
9:20:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THOSE 11 YOU MENTIONED THAT WERE PUBLICLY
9:20:56AM NOTICED, HOW WERE THEY DONE?
9:20:58AM >>JOHN BENNETT: I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO THE LEGAL PROCESS.
9:21:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR IS ALL.
9:21:03AM >>JOHN BENNETT: YEAH.
9:21:12AM >> REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
9:21:14AM THOSE MEETINGS, AS WITH ANY MEETING OF THE UNION, ANY PUBLIC
9:21:19AM MEETING OF THE UNION AND THE ADMINISTRATION, ARE PUBLISHED
9:21:22AM ON THE WEBSITE, AND I'M NOT CERTAIN IF THEY ARE PUT IN THE
9:21:27AM NEWSPAPERS LIKE SOME OTHER PUBLIC NOTICES, BUT THEY ARE PUT
9:21:31AM ON THEIR WEBSITE AND THEY ARE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL OF THE
9:21:34AM UNION MEMBERS.
9:21:35AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
9:21:38AM >> YES.
9:21:38AM NOW, THERE MAY BE -- IT MAY BE PUBLISHED.
9:21:42AM I DON'T KNOW.
9:21:43AM HR WOULD REALLY KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
9:21:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT WAS ON THE CITY WEBSITE, YOU CAN GET
9:21:48AM ANY INFORMATION REGARDING ZONINGS AND ALL THAT, THE SAME
9:21:51AM ONE?
9:21:52AM >> CORRECT.
9:21:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:21:54AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:21:56AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:21:56AM AYE.
9:21:57AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:21:57AM I'LL GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS ONE BY ONE.
9:22:01AM ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, YES.
9:22:02AM I THINK WE HAVE NICOLE TRAVIS ON STANDBY FOR THAT.
9:22:06AM ITEM NUMBER 76, WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF PRESENT FOR 76?
9:22:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE HAVE TO.
9:22:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE THERE IS A
9:22:20AM MEMO.
9:22:20AM WOULD YOU LIKE SOMEBODY FOR 76?
9:22:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
9:22:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO STAFF FOR 76.
9:22:27AM ITEM 77, DO WE NEED STAFF?
9:22:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:22:30AM 78.
9:22:34AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANY STAFF FOR 77?
9:22:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO FOR 77.
9:22:37AM ITEM 78.
9:22:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:22:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
9:22:41AM ITEM NUMBER 79.
9:22:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:22:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL HAVE SOMEBODY FROM THE BUDGET
9:22:50AM OFFICE.
9:22:50AM ITEM NUMBER 80, THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE 80 UNTIL
9:22:56AM FEBRUARY 15.
9:22:57AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE?
9:22:59AM >> SO MOVED.
9:22:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:23:01AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:23:04AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:23:05AM AYE.
9:23:05AM ITEM NUMBER 81, THIS IS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:23:08AM THERE IS A MEMO.
9:23:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, YOU KNOW, I'LL SPEAK TO MR. MULKEY ABOUT
9:23:14AM THIS OFF-LINE AND MAY BRING THIS BACK.
9:23:17AM MY INTENT WITH THIS IS TO HAVE A SPECIAL SUMMER CAMP FOR
9:23:20AM KIDS WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES AND I DON'T WANT TO TAKE
9:23:22AM UP COUNCIL'S TIME TODAY FURTHER ON OBVIOUSLY A VERY
9:23:26AM IMPORTANT TOPIC BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE AGENDA.
9:23:28AM THE REPORT IS FINE.
9:23:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO ON 81.
9:23:32AM HOW ABOUT 82?
9:23:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH.
9:23:36AM LET'S HAVE SOMEBODY HERE FOR THAT.
9:23:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 83.
9:23:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, SORRY, ON 82, DURING THE BREAK I'LL
9:23:44AM REACH OUT TO MS. WYNN AND MAY HAVE THE -- YEAH.
9:23:47AM FOR NOW IT'S YES.
9:23:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 83?
9:23:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, COUNCIL --
9:23:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 82 YES.
9:23:56AM 83 WE HAVE A MEMO FROM MR. MASSEY.
9:24:00AM DO WE NEED SOMEBODY PRESENT?
9:24:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: SINCE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IS NOT HERE
9:24:04AM TODAY, MAYBE WE CAN INQUIRE WITH HER AIDE OFF-LINE WHAT HER
9:24:07AM WISHES FOR THIS WOULD BE?
9:24:09AM IF IT SHOULD BE CONTINUED?
9:24:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL WAIT.
9:24:12AM THIS WILL COME UP AFTER LUNCH.
9:24:14AM ITEM 84, IF WE CAN MOVE THEM UP TO FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS
9:24:19AM BECAUSE THIS HAD TO BE CONTINUED LAST TIME BECAUSE THE
9:24:21AM MEETING WENT SO LONG, THEY HAD TO LEAVE.
9:24:27AM YES AND FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:24:29AM ITEM NUMBER 85, DO WE NEED SOMEBODY HERE FOR 85?
9:24:35AM THERE IS A PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED MEMO BUT WE SAY YES FOR 85.
9:24:43AM 86.
9:24:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS ALSO COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON'S MEMO.
9:24:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE IS A MEMO FROM MR. MASSEY.
9:24:54AM DO YOU WANT ME TO INQUIRE WITH HER OFFICE AND FIGURE OUT
9:24:56AM AFTER LUNCH?
9:24:57AM ITEM 87, REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO MARCH 7.
9:25:00AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO MARCH 7 ITEM NUMBER 87.
9:25:04AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, SECOND FROM COUNCIL
9:25:07AM MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:25:08AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:25:08AM ITEM 88 CONTINUE TO MARCH 7.
9:25:11AM MOTION FROM CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
9:25:13AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:25:14AM AYE.
9:25:14AM ITEM 89 TO BE CONTINUED TO APRIL 25th.
9:25:17AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:25:20AM MIRANDA.
9:25:20AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:25:21AM AYE.
9:25:21AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM?
9:25:27AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM COUNCIL
9:25:29AM MEMBER VIERA.
9:25:30AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:25:30AM AYE.
9:25:31AM ITEM 3 IS F.D.O.T.
9:25:36AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC COMMENT -- OH, WE'RE
9:25:40AM NOT THERE YET.
9:25:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 3 IS F.D.O.T. TO PRESENT.
9:25:43AM WE HAVE A PowerPoint.
9:25:45AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE FROM F.D.O.T. TO PRESENT ITEM NUMBER
9:25:48AM 3?
9:25:48AM COME ON UP.
9:25:57AM >> MY NAME IS CRAIG FOX WITH FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF
9:26:00AM TRANSPORTATION.
9:26:01AM HAPPY TO BE HERE.
9:26:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE PRESENTATION SHOULD BE COMING RIGHT
9:26:09AM UP.
9:26:09AM >> NOT A PROBLEM.
9:26:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU WANT TO BEGIN WITH ANYTHING ELSE?
9:26:29AM JUST A MOMENT.
9:26:35AM >> YEAH, I CAN.
9:26:36AM THIS IS TO UPDATE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ON THE STATUS
9:26:40AM OF THE FOWLER AVENUE URBAN CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS.
9:26:43AM THE LIMITS OF THIS PROJECT ARE FROM FLORIDA AVENUE TO THE
9:26:46AM WEST ALL THE WAY EAST PAST UNIVERSITY MALL, PAST USF TO
9:26:51AM 56th STREET TOWARDS THE EAST.
9:26:54AM WE HAVE VERY EXCITING CHANGES THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO
9:26:57AM IMPLEMENT WITH THIS PROJECT IN CONJUNCTION WITH HART AND
9:27:00AM JUST WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ALL ON THE STATUS OF THAT PROJECT.
9:27:04AM I'M ACTUALLY STANDING IN PLACE OF DESIGN PROJECT MANAGER
9:27:06AM KEVIN LEE.
9:27:07AM HIS CONTACT INFORMATION IS ON THE PAPER IN CASE YOU ARE
9:27:09AM WONDERING WHY THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT NAMES WITH THIS.
9:27:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO YOU HAVE A HARD COPY?
9:27:14AM >> I DO RIGHT HERE.
9:27:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU CAN PUT IT ON THE ELMO AND THAT WILL WORK
9:27:19AM AS WELL.
9:27:19AM IF SOMEBODY CAN HELP HIM ZOOM OUT.
9:27:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:27:29AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:27:39AM >> A LARGE DRIVER OF THIS PROJECT IS TO, OF COURSE, INCREASE
9:27:45AM SAFETY ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
9:27:46AM LIKE I MENTIONED, THE LIMITS ARE FROM FLORIDA AVENUE TO THE
9:27:50AM WEST, EAST TO 56th STREET.
9:27:53AM THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD BETWEEN 2015 AND 2019, TOTAL OF 3300
9:27:57AM CRASHES ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
9:27:59AM THAT INCLUDES ALL TYPES OF CRASHES.
9:28:01AM ALSO 120 BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN CRASHES WITH 9 FATALITIES.
9:28:08AM THE 9 FATALITIES WERE ALL BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN CRASHES ALONG
9:28:11AM THE CORRIDOR.
9:28:12AM THE IMAGE ON THE BOTTOM SHOWS WHERE THE 120 BIKE AND
9:28:18AM PEDESTRIAN CRASHES OCCURRED IN THE CORRIDOR.
9:28:20AM YOU SEE THERE IS A HEAVY CONCENTRATION RIGHT THERE BETWEEN
9:28:24AM NEBRASKA AVENUE AND BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD.
9:28:26AM THOSE ACCOUNTED FOR 73% OF THE BIKE-PED CRASHES.
9:28:30AM THAT'S REALLY THE HOT SPOT IN THE CORRIDOR.
9:28:33AM THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE EXISTING PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE
9:28:41AM -- PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
9:28:43AM RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST LOOKING BETWEEN NEBRASKA AVENUE TO THE
9:28:46AM WEST AND BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD TO THE EAST.
9:28:48AM YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE SIGNALS ARE ABOUT A HALF A MILE
9:28:52AM APART.
9:28:53AM IF YOU ARE A PEDESTRIAN, THAT IS A PRETTY LONG DISTANCE TO
9:28:56AM WALK IF YOU WANT TO REACH A SAFE CROSSING.
9:29:00AM THE EXISTING CROSSWALKS ARE SHOWN THERE IN RED.
9:29:02AM THE NEXT SLIDE WILL SHOW WHERE WE INTEND TO DO SOME
9:29:05AM IMPROVEMENTS.
9:29:06AM IN YELLOW WE HAVE PROPOSED CROSSWALKS.
9:29:10AM THOSE ARE MID BLOCK PEDESTRIAN SIGNALS, MUCH LIKE THE ONES
9:29:13AM THAT YOU SEE ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE ALSO ALONG BUSCH
9:29:16AM BOULEVARD.
9:29:17AM PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACONS.
9:29:19AM THOSE ARE SHOWN IN YELLOW.
9:29:21AM THEN WE ARE ALSO WORKING WITH SOME DEVELOPERS THAT ARE
9:29:24AM DEVELOPING ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND THEY ARE LOOKING TO
9:29:27AM INCLUDE SOME SIGNALS SHOWN THERE IN BLUE.
9:29:30AM IT'S GOING TO REDUCE THE CROSSING DISTANCE FROM AROUND HALF
9:29:33AM A MILE TO JUST AROUND 700 FEET FOR THE MOST PART BETWEEN
9:29:37AM THAT HIGH CRASH CORRIDOR.
9:29:39AM NEXT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS.
9:29:45AM THIS IS, AGAIN, JUST BETWEEN NEBRASKA AVENUE AND BRUCE B.
9:29:49AM DOWNS.
9:29:50AM YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THREE DIFFERENT
9:29:53AM ALTERNATIVES ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND THE SELECTED ONE WAS A
9:29:55AM BUSINESS ACCESS TRANSIT ALTERNATIVE.
9:29:57AM THAT IS THE ONE SHOWN IN THIS IMAGE.
9:30:00AM THAT DOES INCLUDE WHAT WE CALL BUSINESS ACCESS TRANSIT LANE.
9:30:04AM BASICALLY IT ALLOWS VEHICLES TO MAKE RIGHT TURNS INTO
9:30:08AM BUSINESSES, BUT -- VEHICLES CANNOT GO THROUGH THE
9:30:12AM INTERSECTION.
9:30:12AM THAT LEAVES THRU MOVEMENTS JUST TO THE TRANSIT WHICH
9:30:16AM INCREASES THE EFFICIENCY OF THE TRANSIT.
9:30:19AM WE HAVE DONE THIS WITHIN THE TAMPA BAY REGION.
9:30:21AM PART OF THE SUN RUNNER PROJECT WITH PSTA.
9:30:24AM THAT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND EVEN AFTER THAT PROJECT HAS
9:30:26AM BEEN IMPLEMENTED SOME SIGNIFICANT SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS
9:30:29AM WITHOUT REALLY DELAYING TRAFFIC THAT MUCH ALONG THE
9:30:32AM CORRIDOR.
9:30:32AM IT'S BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL.
9:30:34AM WORKING CLOSELY WITH HART.
9:30:35AM HART RIGHT NOW THEY ARE CURRENTLY GOING AFTER SOME GRANTS TO
9:30:38AM BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THE SERVICE ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
9:30:41AM SO WE'RE NOT SURE -- UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT SURE AT THE
9:30:43AM MOMENT WHETHER WE'LL BE ABLE TO BUILD AND STRIPE OUT THAT
9:30:47AM LANE, BUT WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE OTHER BIKE-PED
9:30:50AM IMPROVEMENTS, WIDEN OUT THE SIDEWALKS AND DO THOSE CROSSINGS
9:30:53AM NO MATTER WHAT.
9:30:55AM IF WE HAVE TO COME IN AND DO A QUICK STRIPING JOB, IT'S EASY
9:31:00AM AND QUICKLY IMPLEMENTED.
9:31:01AM WE'LL ALSO BUILD BUS PADS FOR HART WHETHER THEY ARE READY OR
9:31:06AM NOT.
9:31:06AM AS SOON AS THEY ARE READY, WE CAN TURN ON AS FAST AS
9:31:10AM POSSIBLE.
9:31:10AM EVEN THOUGH THIS IS ALTERNATIVE, WE'RE NOT PREVENTING THE
9:31:16AM MEDIAN GUIDEWAY FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE.
9:31:18AM DEPENDING ON HOW THE REGION CHANGES, THAT CAN STILL BE
9:31:22AM IMPLEMENTED AND THIS PROJECT DOESN'T STOP IT FROM HAPPENING.
9:31:24AM THE POSTED SPEED IS 45 MILES PER HOUR ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND
9:31:29AM LONG-TERM TARGET SPEED OF 35 ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
9:31:33AM NEXT WE'LL MOVE FURTHER EAST TO BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD.
9:31:39AM BETWEEN BRUCE B. DOWNS BOULEVARD AND 56th STREET, THIS IS
9:31:42AM OUTSIDE OF THE TRANSIT CORRIDOR BECAUSE AT BRUCE B. DOWNS
9:31:45AM BOULEVARD, THE BUS IS GOING TO GO NORTH.
9:31:47AM THAT'S WHY WE DON'T HAVE THE BUS LANE ON HERE.
9:31:49AM BUT WE ARE GOING TO DO RESURFACING WITHIN THIS SECTION.
9:31:54AM ALSO ADD A WIDER SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE ROADWAY.
9:31:58AM THAT WILL CONNECT TO A FUTURE TRAIL AND EXTEND TO TEMPLE
9:32:02AM TERRACE.
9:32:04AM SPEED ALONG THE CORRIDOR IS 50 MILES AN HOUR WITH LONG-TERM
9:32:06AM GOAL OF 40 MILES AN HOUR.
9:32:08AM ONE THING THAT THE RESURFACING PROJECT WILL DO IS TO REDUCE
9:32:12AM THE LANE WIDTH ALONG THE CORRIDOR WHICH DOES HELP TO
9:32:15AM ENCOURAGE SLOWER SPEEDS ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
9:32:17AM WE'RE ALSO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA
9:32:21AM ALONG WITH HART TO PROVIDE TRANSIT ACCESS AND ALSO BIKE-PED
9:32:25AM ACCESS.
9:32:25AM THE PROJECT SCHEDULE, WE ARE SCOPING OUT THE DESIGN RIGHT
9:32:31AM NOW, SO WE'LL EXECUTE IT THIS QUARTER, 2024.
9:32:35AM CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTION FUNDS ARE IN THE SECOND QUARTER OF
9:32:38AM 2027.
9:32:39AM OF COURSE, IF WE GET ANY CHANCE TO ACCELERATE AND ADVANCE
9:32:42AM THOSE FUNDS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE IT.
9:32:44AM HOPEFULLY IT WON'T TAKE THAT LONG BUT THAT'S CURRENTLY WHERE
9:32:47AM THE FUNDING IS.
9:32:48AM THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
9:32:52AM MY NAME IS NOT KEVIN LEE BUT HE IS THE DESIGN PROJECT
9:32:55AM MANAGER.
9:32:55AM HE COULDN'T MAKE IT HERE TODAY.
9:32:57AM HIS CONTACT INFORMATION IS ON THE SCREEN.
9:32:58AM SAFETY REMINDER, WHETHER YOU GET THERE EARLY, ON TIME,
9:33:01AM LITTLE LATE, WE WANT EVERYBODY TO GET THERE SAFE.
9:33:05AM WATCH YOUR SPEED AND DRIVE SAFELY.
9:33:07AM THANK YOU.
9:33:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:33:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:11AM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION, POINT RIGHT TO IT AND
9:33:15AM TALKED ABOUT 120 CRASHES, SO FORTH AND SO ON.
9:33:21AM HOW MANY OF THESE ARE RELATED TO PEOPLE THAT ARE INEBRIATED,
9:33:26AM ON DRUGS OR WHATEVER?
9:33:29AM ALSO WITH THAT, I IMAGINE YOU HAVE SPEED.
9:33:32AM THE REASON FOR THAT, LOOKED A DAY OR TWO AGO WHEN AN
9:33:35AM INDIVIDUAL LOST THEIR LIFE WALKING ON A SIDEWALK ON DALE
9:33:38AM MABRY IN FRONT OF A VERY POPULAR RESTAURANT.
9:33:40AM I WON'T NAME THE RESTAURANT BECAUSE THE RESTAURANT WASN'T AT
9:33:43AM FAULT.
9:33:44AM SOMEBODY WALKING THE STREET HALF GOOFY IN THE HEAD, ONE
9:33:48AM REASON OR ANOTHER, MAYBE A LOT OF PROBLEMS ON HIS MIND OR
9:33:51AM WHATEVER, AND HE HIT SOMEBODY AND KILLED SOMEBODY ON A
9:33:54AM SIDEWALK.
9:33:54AM I UNDERSTAND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPEED AND MORE IN LOWERING
9:33:59AM THE SPEED AND MAKING IT NICER, SEE THINGS AND PUBLIC SEE IT
9:34:06AM CLEAR.
9:34:07AM HOW MANY OF THESE ARE CAUSED BY SOMETHING OTHER THAN
9:34:09AM NATURAL?
9:34:09AM YOU'RE SPEEDING, THAT'S UNNATURAL.
9:34:12AM ON DRUGS, THAT'S CERTAINLY UNNATURAL.
9:34:15AM WHATEVER IT IS, DO YOU HAVE ANY CALCULATION, KNOWLEDGE OF
9:34:19AM ALL THAT?
9:34:20AM >> WE DO HAVE THAT WITH THE CRASH REPORTS.
9:34:23AM JUST DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION READILY AVAILABLE.
9:34:25AM I CAN GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION.
9:34:28AM WE DO HAVE A PRETTY HIGH CONCENTRATION, ESPECIALLY AROUND
9:34:31AM 15th.
9:34:32AM WHAT WE NOTICE MOST OF THE TIMES IS FOLKS JUST TRYING TO GET
9:34:38AM ACROSS THE STREET.
9:34:39AM SOMETIMES THEY CROSS AT THE INTERSECTION, ALTHOUGH NOT THE
9:34:41AM RIGHT WAY TO CROSS, SOMETIMES THEY FEEL SAFE CROSSING AWAY
9:34:47AM AND NOBODY IS EXPECTING YOU --
9:34:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HAVE A VEHICLE IN FRONT OF YOU, CAN'T
9:34:52AM SEE THE PASSENGER, THINK YOU ARE ALL RIGHT AND THEN ALL OF A
9:34:55AM SUDDEN.
9:34:56AM ANY WAY TO GET US THAT INFORMATION?
9:34:59AM >> YES.
9:34:59AM WE'LL PULL UP CRASH REPORTS AND GET BACK TO YOU.
9:35:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR.
9:35:06AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.
9:35:07AM ON SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS ESPECIALLY NEAR THE TERRACE
9:35:10AM PARK AREA AND 56th NEAR TEMPLE TERRACE, I'D LOVE TO REACH
9:35:14AM OUT TO YOUR OFFICE, MAYBE HAVE SOMEBODY COME AND TALK TO
9:35:18AM SOME OF THE GOOD FOLKS AT TERRACE PARK.
9:35:20AM TALKING YESTERDAY EVENING TO SOMEBODY THERE, COMMUNITY
9:35:23AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
9:35:25AM SO WE'LL REACH OUT, IF WE MAY, BECAUSE I THINK THESE ARE
9:35:28AM GREAT IMPROVEMENTS.
9:35:29AM BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS THERE INCLUDING BRUCE B. DOWNS AND NEW
9:35:31AM TAMPA, THESE STATISTICS AND THESE FACTS THAT YOU SPEAK OF,
9:35:35AM THEY KNOW FULL WELL, OBVIOUSLY, LIVING DAY TO DAY, THE
9:35:39AM DANGER ZONE, SO TO SPEAK, THAT IS OUT THERE.
9:35:42AM IT'S GREAT TO SEE THESE IMPROVEMENTS AND WHATNOT AND THESE
9:35:48AM CALL FOR CONTINUE ROBUST INVESTMENTS.
9:35:50AM THIS IS FOR ME AND OBVIOUSLY OUT OF -- MORE OF A POLITICAL
9:35:53AM ISSUE, BUT THIS SCREAMS OUT AGAIN WHY WE NEED MORE REVENUE,
9:35:58AM ROBUST REVENUE SOURCE FOR MASS TRANSIT, FOR PEDESTRIAN AND
9:36:02AM SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS HERE IN THE COUNTY.
9:36:04AM I KNOW WE VOTED ON THAT A FEW TIMES AND IT CONTINUES TO GET
9:36:07AM THROUGH ONE REASON OR ANOTHER TAKEN AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC.
9:36:11AM BUT WE DO APPRECIATE THE F.D.O.T. INVESTMENTS.
9:36:14AM AS A SIDE NOTE, SERVING ON THE HART BOARD, OBVIOUSLY WE
9:36:18AM APPRECIATE, YOU MENTIONED HART A FEW TIMES, WE APPRECIATE
9:36:21AM THE RECENT STUDY THAT YOU ALL DID, JUST THE FUTURE OF HART
9:36:26AM AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN.
9:36:28AM I KNOW WE ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH TALLAHASSEE
9:36:31AM AND F.D.O.T. TO SEE HOW WE CAN IMPROVE HART FOR
9:36:34AM TRANSPARENCY.
9:36:35AM HART IS SUCH A PIVOTAL PART OF THE FUTURE OF TRANSPORTATION
9:36:38AM AND MASS TRANSPORTATION IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND TAMPA AND
9:36:40AM SUCH A LIFELINE AND GODSEND TO SO MANY FAMILIES.
9:36:46AM THESE STATISTICS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE THINGS YOU'RE
9:36:48AM DOING TO ADDRESS THEM ARE WONDERFUL.
9:36:50AM I'D LOVE TO GET A REPORT BEFORE THE AFFECTED COMMUNITIES ON
9:36:55AM THAT SO THEY CAN SEE THESE ROBUST STEPS ARE BEING TAKEN.
9:36:58AM AGAIN, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR YOUR SERVICE TO
9:37:01AM FLORIDA.
9:37:02AM >> THANK YOU.
9:37:02AM WE'LL REACH OUT TO YOUR OFFICE.
9:37:05AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS.
9:37:07AM I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF HOW F.D.O.T. IS NOW DOING A LOT
9:37:11AM OF FOCUSING ON PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLIST CRASHES.
9:37:16AM I NOTICED THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT THE LONG-TERM TARGET SPEED
9:37:23AM WILL BE GOING DOWN.
9:37:25AM WHAT DOES LONG-TERM MEAN?
9:37:28AM HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO GET TO THE TARGETED SPEED GOAL OF
9:37:32AM 35 MILES AN HOUR?
9:37:35AM >> UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW.
9:37:37AM THAT CAN DEPEND ON ANY KIND OF NUMBER OF FACTORS.
9:37:41AM OF COURSE, RIGHT NOW THE ALTERNATIVE SELECTED IS BUSINESS
9:37:44AM ACCESS TRANSIT ONE.
9:37:46AM IF THERE WAS ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE IMPLEMENTED IN THE FUTURE
9:37:50AM AND, OF COURSE, COST IS A HUGE FACTOR IN ALL OF THIS.
9:37:53AM MAYBE ONE OF THE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES CHANGE A SECTION OF
9:37:58AM ROADWAYS AND THAT WOULD ENABLE IT TO HAPPEN.
9:38:00AM ONE OF THE MAIN ISSUES WITH ROADS, YEAH, WE CAN CHANGE THE
9:38:03AM POSTED SIGN TO A SLOW SPEED BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE ACTUAL
9:38:08AM BEHAVIOR.
9:38:09AM IT IS THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ROADWAY.
9:38:12AM WITH THE AREA DEVELOPING MORE OF AN URBANIZED AREA, THE MORE
9:38:17AM DEVELOPS LIKE URBAN CORRIDOR, THE MORE LIKELY IT IS WE CAN
9:38:20AM TRY OUT SOME DIFFERENT STRATEGIES, BUT THE QUICK AND DIRTY
9:38:24AM ANSWER IS RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO DROP
9:38:28AM THE SPEED THAT LOW.
9:38:29AM TARGETED SPEED IS SOMETHING RELATIVELY NEW TO THE DEPARTMENT
9:38:32AM THAT WE'RE STARTING TO IMPLEMENT.
9:38:37AM MOVING TOWARD PEDESTRIAN SAFETY INSTEAD OF CONTINUING TO DO
9:38:40AM THINGS THE WAY WE WERE.
9:38:42AM TARGET SPEED IS A LITTLE BIT OF A GOAL THAT WE INTEND TO
9:38:46AM IMPLEMENT BUT NOT NECESSARILY A SET PROJECT, UNLESS
9:38:50AM IMMEDIATE PROJECT AVAILABLE, WHICH THERE ISN'T RIGHT NOW, WE
9:38:53AM CAN'T SAY WHEN IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED, UNFORTUNATELY.
9:38:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:38:56AM THAT GOES INTO MY NEXT QUESTION OF WHILE IT'S GREAT WE'LL
9:39:00AM HAVE THESE RIGHT LANES FOR BUS RAPID TRANSIT, AGAIN, IT'S
9:39:05AM ALL ABOUT BEHAVIOR AND HOW YOU CHANGE BEHAVIOR FROM PEOPLE
9:39:09AM NOT BEING ON THOSE ROADS.
9:39:11AM YOU SAID THE SUN RUNNER THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
9:39:15AM FIRST AVENUE NORTH AND SOUTH IN ST. PETE, TOTALLY DIFFERENT
9:39:18AM ANIMAL.
9:39:18AM NOT NEARLY HEAVILY TRAVELED AS THIS ROAD.
9:39:22AM I'M INTERESTED GOING FORWARD HOW YOU'RE GOING TO -- WHAT ARE
9:39:26AM THE PROCESSES YOU'RE GOING TO DO TO TEACH PEOPLE TO NOT USE
9:39:31AM THAT AS A TRAVEL LANE.
9:39:32AM GOING FORWARD, I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO KNOW WHAT F.D.O.T. IS
9:39:37AM PLANNING ON DOING, WHEN THIS IS PUT TOGETHER AND HOW WE'RE
9:39:40AM GOING TO RAMP UP TEACHING PEOPLE THAT A BRT -- OR BAT LANE
9:39:47AM IS EXACTLY THAT.
9:39:48AM YOU'RE NOT DRIVING IN IT.
9:39:50AM WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SUCCESS, AS YOU SAID OF PEOPLE
9:39:54AM FOLLOWING THE SPEED LIMIT.
9:39:56AM THIS IS A BRAND-NEW CONCEPT FOR MOST FLORIDIANS.
9:40:00AM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MAYBE SOME DATA ON WHAT HAPPENED WITH
9:40:02AM THE SUN RUNNER.
9:40:03AM REALLY FOR A BUSIER STREET, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO IMPLEMENT
9:40:08AM THAT GOING FORWARD?
9:40:09AM THANK YOU AGAIN FOR -- I KNOW IT IS A LONG WAY OFF IF WE'RE
9:40:13AM NOT STARTING CONSTRUCTION UNTIL 2027 BUT IT'S SOMETHING I
9:40:16AM THINK WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
9:40:19AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
9:40:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:40:21AM ALL RIGHT.
9:40:22AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:40:23AM NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 4.
9:40:25AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:40:27AM THERE IS A MEMO HERE.
9:40:30AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY PRESENTING REGARDING THE COUNTY/CITY
9:40:34AM APPRENTICESHIP PILOT PROGRAM?
9:40:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: THE MEMO INDICATED THAT THE MEMO WAS IN LIEU
9:40:39AM OF AN APPEARANCE.
9:40:40AM I'LL SPEAK TO THAT BRIEFLY, IF I MAY.
9:40:45AM THIS WAS PART OF AN EFFORT I BEGAN WORKING ON MAYBE YEAR AND
9:40:48AM A HALF AGO WITH COUNTY COMMISSIONER MYERS TO HAVE A JOB
9:40:52AM TRAINING AND APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM FOR RETURNING CITIZENS,
9:40:55AM PEOPLE EXITING OUR PRISON SYSTEM.
9:40:57AM EVERY YEAR IN THE UNITED STATES I BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS
9:41:00AM THREE-QUARTERS OF A MILLION AMERICANS LEAVE OUR PRISON
9:41:03AM SYSTEM, AND WITHIN THREE YEARS, TWO-THIRDS OF THEM ARE GOING
9:41:06AM TO BE BACK IN PRISON WHICH REALLY REPRESENTS A MAJOR FAILURE
9:41:09AM I THINK IN TERMS OF PUBLIC POLICY HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
9:41:13AM WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER MYERS ON THIS PILOT PROGRAM SO WE
9:41:17AM CAN INCREASE LOCAL GOVERNMENT'S INVESTMENT IN HELPING OUT
9:41:21AM OUR RETURNING CITIZENS, WHICH REPRESENT ALL OF OUR FAMILIES.
9:41:23AM THIS ALTOGETHER, IF MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT WILL BE $400,000
9:41:28AM FOR YEAR ONE.
9:41:29AM THIS WILL BE COMING TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL WHERE
9:41:33AM THERE WILL BE A FORMAL REPORT WHICH IS WHY I DIDN'T WANT TO
9:41:37AM HAVE DUPLICATE EFFORTS I GUESS IF YOU WILL.
9:41:40AM THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE ORDINANCE WE DID.
9:41:42AM I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST YEAR TO HAVE INCENTIVES FOR
9:41:46AM CONTRACTORS TO HIRE RETURNING CITIZENS.
9:41:48AM THOSE WHO DO CONTRACTS WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND TO BAN THE
9:41:52AM BOX.
9:41:52AM THIS IS A REALLY GOOD STEP FORWARD IN THE AREA.
9:41:54AM AND I BELIEVE, IF MEMORY SERVES ME, THAT ABE BROWN
9:42:01AM MINISTRIES, THEIR SECULAR ARM, GOT THE CONTRACT, WHICH IS
9:42:01AM WONDERFUL BECAUSE I AM A BIG FAN OF THEIRS, ROBERT BLOUNT,
9:42:01AM AND THE LATE REVEREND ABE BROWN, I ACTUALLY SAW HIM PREACH
9:42:08AM WHEN I WAS A LITTLE KID.
9:42:09AM JUST WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
9:42:10AM WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS IN DETAIL I THINK WHEN COUNCIL
9:42:15AM APPROVES IT.
9:42:15AM >>FROM THE AUDIENCE: CITY COUNCIL, 20,000 PEOPLE ARE DEAD.
9:42:17AM WHY HAVEN'T YOU --
9:42:18AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:42:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
9:42:21AM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:42:23AM YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:42:33AM >>FROM THE AUDIENCE: CEASE FIRE NOW!
9:42:34AM CEASE FIRE NOW!
9:42:36AM CEASE FIRE NOW!
9:42:37AM [RECESS]
9:54:28AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:54:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:54:30AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING BACK TO
9:54:33AM ORDER.
9:54:33AM ROLL CALL.
9:54:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:54:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:54:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:54:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:54:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:54:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:54:40AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:54:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
9:54:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:54:45AM I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S ATTENTION AND TO THE
9:54:47AM PUBLIC'S ATTENTION THE RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR THE CONDUCT OF
9:54:50AM CITY COUNCIL, RULE 5, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION.
9:54:54AM I WILL BE READING RULES 5E, 5F, 5G, AND 5H.
9:55:02AM ALL PERSONS SHALL AT ALL TIMES CONDUCT THEMSELVES IN
9:55:07AM ACCORDANCE WITH COUNCIL'S RULES.
9:55:09AM PERSONS FAILING TO DO SO SHALL BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND MAY
9:55:13AM BE DIRECTED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR TO BE REMOVED
9:55:16AM FROM THE COUNCIL CHAMBER.
9:55:18AM SUCH PERSON SHALL NOT THEREAFTER BE READMITTED TO THE
9:55:22AM COUNCIL CHAMBER OR CITY HALL DURING THE REMAINDER OF THAT
9:55:26AM DAY'S MEETING.
9:55:27AM SPEAKERS SHALL REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
9:55:31AM MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS.
9:55:34AM SPEAKERS SHALL REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING PERSONAL ATTACKS
9:55:39AM AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, CITY STAFF MEMBER, OR MEMBERS OF
9:55:41AM THE PUBLIC.
9:55:42AM COMMENTS SHALL BE DIRECTED TO THE COUNCIL AS A BODY AND NOT
9:55:44AM TO INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:55:45AM NO ONE PRESENT DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING SHALL ENGAGE IN
9:55:50AM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING INTENTIONALLY MAKING OR
9:55:54AM CAUSING TO BE MADE ANY DISRUPTIVE SOUND OR NOISE OR
9:55:58AM DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS IN A MANNER DISRUPTIVE TO THE
9:56:02AM PROCEEDING.
9:56:03AM THE CHAIR SHALL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC
9:56:07AM WHO SHALL SPEAK WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR WHO SHALL NOT
9:56:12AM ADDRESS COUNCIL FROM THE PODIUM OR OTHER ESTABLISHED SPEAKER
9:56:15AM AREA.
9:56:15AM NO PERSON SHALL APPROACH THE DAIS OF THE CITY COUNCIL DURING
9:56:19AM MEETINGS EXCEPT COUNCIL MEMBERS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY
9:56:22AM UNLESS INVITED BY A MEMBER OF COUNCIL.
9:56:25AM THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU PROPERLY, IN MY OPINION,
9:56:31AM CALLED A RECESS DURING WHAT WAS DISRUPTIVE TO THE
9:56:36AM PROCEEDING, AND COUNCIL, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE ARE THOSE
9:56:41AM PEOPLE WHO MAY WANT TO RETURN.
9:56:42AM MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU DID NOT SPECIFICALLY RULE THEM OUT OF
9:56:47AM ORDER AT THAT TIME, BUT THAT BEING SAID, HOW DOES COUNCIL
9:56:51AM WISH TO PROCEED?
9:56:51AM DOES COUNCIL WISH TO HAVE THEM RETURN IF THEY DO NOT ENGAGE
9:56:56AM IN THE DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR?
9:56:58AM IF THEY COMPLY WITH COUNCIL'S RULES OF PROCEDURE.
9:57:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
9:57:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN HAVE THEM RETURN TODAY.
9:57:07AM I'M BEING HONEST.
9:57:08AM I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN.
9:57:10AM THEY INTERRUPTED TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
9:57:12AM THEY ARE WELCOME TO RETURN AT ANOTHER TIME.
9:57:14AM IT WOULD BE FORESEEABLE THAT WOULD BE THEIR INTENT FOR THE
9:57:17AM REMAINDER OF THE MEETING.
9:57:18AM MY CONCERN IS THE POLICE OFFICERS HERE AND PUTTING THEM IN
9:57:22AM THAT POSITION.
9:57:22AM THAT'S ME.
9:57:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:57:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU'RE THE ONE, YOU ARE THE ATTORNEY, YOU
9:57:27AM ARE THE ONE WITH THE OPINION, WHETHER THEY MEET THE CRITERIA
9:57:30AM OR NOT, NOT I OR THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:57:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT'S ULTIMATELY THE CHAIR'S, ACCORDING TO
9:57:36AM THE RULES.
9:57:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AGREE WITH MR. VIERA.
9:57:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEN IF THAT IS THE CASE, MR. CHAIRMAN --
9:57:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:57:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD ACTUALLY SAY REFERENCE THE RULE
9:57:48AM BECAUSE I AM A STICKLER FOR RULES AND REFERENCE THE RULES.
9:57:52AM I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW THE SPEAKERS TO REENTER THE
9:57:56AM CHAMBER BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THEY RETURN TO THE CHAMBER
9:57:58AM AND THEY ARE DISRUPTIVE THEY WILL BE TRESPASSED FROM THIS
9:58:02AM CHAMBER.
9:58:03AM THAT WOULD BE MY ASSUMPTION.
9:58:05AM AS LONG AS EVERYBODY BE CONFORMS WITH THE RULES, WHICH THIS
9:58:09AM IS A GOVERNMENT BODY OF RULES.
9:58:12AM THEY CONFORM TO THE RULES, THEY CAN COME BACK IN AND SPEAK
9:58:15AM DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND HAVE THEIR THREE MINUTES.
9:58:19AM IF THEY ARE DISRUPTIVE AGAIN, THEY WOULD BE TRESPASSED.
9:58:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:58:26AM I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T CALL THEM OUT OF ORDER.
9:58:32AM WE SHOULD INVITE THEM BACK AND IF THEY CAN FOLLOW THE RULES
9:58:35AM STAY.
9:58:36AM IF NOT, THEN WE CALL THEM OUT OF ORDER.
9:58:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ANYTHING?
9:58:39AM NO.
9:58:40AM PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
9:58:42AM THEY'LL HAVE THEIR THREE MINUTES.
9:58:43AM EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND WE'RE HERE TO
9:58:46AM LISTEN.
9:58:47AM I WOULD SAY THEY SHOULD COME BACK IN AS LONG AS THEY RESPECT
9:58:49AM THE RULES.
9:58:50AM IF NOT, I WILL CALL FOLKS OUT OF ORDER AND IT IS WHAT IT IS
9:58:53AM AT THAT POINT.
9:58:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH, IF THEY ARE
9:58:58AM COMING BACK, WE MIGHT WANT TO READ THE RULES AGAIN.
9:59:04AM WE ARE A FORUM WHERE WE BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH AND ALLOW
9:59:08AM PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS.
9:59:09AM MOST GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ONLY ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK TO THE
9:59:12AM AGENDA AND MOST GOVERNING AGENCIES ONLY ALLOW CITIZENS OF
9:59:15AM THAT GOVERNMENT AGENCY.
9:59:17AM WE ALLOW FAR-REACHING ABILITY OF FREE SPEECH, SO WE END UP
9:59:22AM BEING THE FORUM FOR ISSUES THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO THE CITY
9:59:26AM BUT BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN FREE SPEECH WE ALLOW THAT.
9:59:29AM WE ASK EVERYBODY TO BE RESPECTFUL OF OTHER FOLKS' TIME.
9:59:33AM THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE HERE TO SPEAK ON TOPICS AND BE
9:59:36AM RESPECTFUL OF THE PUBLIC WATCHING.
9:59:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE ARE A LIMITED NUMBER OF SEATS NOW IN
9:59:40AM THE CHAMBERS.
9:59:41AM PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW IF THE CHAMBER IS FULL, THERE IS
9:59:46AM OVERFLOW SPACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR WHERE THEY SHOULD GO TO
9:59:50AM BE ABLE TO SEE AND HEAR THE MEETING UNTIL THEY ARE CALLED
9:59:52AM UP.
9:59:53AM ONCE THIS ROOM FILLS UP, IF THEY LEFT BEFORE AND HAD A SEAT
9:59:57AM AND NO LONGER AVAILABLE, THEY WILL HAVE TO WAIT THEIR TURN
10:00:00AM ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
10:00:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO SAY THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS
10:00:06AM STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF ITEM 4, WHILE PEOPLE ARE COMING BACK
10:00:09AM IN, IF WE COULD FINISH ITEM 4, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME BEFORE
10:00:12AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:00:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:00:16AM I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
10:00:18AM ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST, THE ISSUE LIES WITH YOU, THE
10:00:22AM PEOPLE HERE RIGHT NOW BE GIVEN THE CHANCE TO SPEAK FIRST
10:00:25AM BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T CAUSE THIS DELAY.
10:00:28AM I KNOW PEOPLE ARE ON SCHEDULES, REGARDLESS OF THE SUBSTANCE
10:00:32AM THAT THEY ARE HERE TO SPEAK FOR.
10:00:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
10:00:37AM ANYTHING ELSE?
10:00:46AM >> [NOT SPEAKING INTO A MICROPHONE]
10:00:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL AT LEAST START WITH THE VIRTUAL
10:00:54AM PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN THOSE FIVE ARE DONE --
10:00:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AFTER COUNCILMAN VIERA'S DISCUSSION, DID
10:01:03AM YOU FINISH YOUR ITEM?
10:01:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WANTED TO SPEAK ON
10:01:08AM IT.
10:01:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, I WANTED YOU TO FINISH.
10:01:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:01:12AM KIND AS ALWAYS.
10:01:13AM I HAVE NOTHING.
10:01:13AM AGAIN, WHEN THIS COMES UP BEFORE US ON A VOTE, WE CAN DEAL
10:01:17AM WITH IT MORE IN DEPTH THEN.
10:01:19AM BEFORE WE WERE INTERRUPTED, A REALLY, REALLY GOOD PROGRAM
10:01:23AM FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT I THINK WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF AND
10:01:25AM AN ISSUE THAT IS VERY, VERY IGNORED AND IT AFFECTS ALL OF
10:01:28AM OUR FAMILIES RETURNING CITIZENS.
10:01:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I SPEAK BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT QUICKLY?
10:01:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
10:01:39AM SPEAK NOW OR WAIT?
10:01:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO, JUST BECAUSE I WANT TO -- I KNOW A LOT
10:01:43AM OF PEOPLE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT KING STATE.
10:01:46AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL CAN'T DO IS COMMUNICATE
10:01:51AM DURING OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:01:54AM I WANT TO TELL FOLKS WHAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON BEFORE WE
10:01:57AM GET STARTED WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AND JUST MR. SHELBY WILL LET
10:02:02AM YOU KNOW WE CAN'T RESPOND DURING.
10:02:04AM I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH BRAD BAIRD AND THE WATER DEPARTMENT
10:02:09AM ON THE ISSUE.
10:02:12AM I GOT THEM TO ADD MORE SIGNAGE TO THE ROAD TO HELP FIGURE
10:02:16AM OUT HOW TO GET IN.
10:02:18AM I ASKED THEM TO DO A MAP.
10:02:20AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN YET.
10:02:22AM THE OTHER THING WE'RE WORKING ON, WE HAVE A BRAND-NEW
10:02:25AM DIRECTOR OF CONTRACTS WHO HAS BEEN WORKING ON STARTING A
10:02:29AM CONTRACTOR GRADING SYSTEM THAT WILL HELP PREVENT THESE
10:02:34AM ISSUES IN THE FUTURE, ALSO TO REQUIRE BETTER COMMUNICATION
10:02:38AM WITH BUSINESSES.
10:02:39AM JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING BEHIND
10:02:44AM THE SCENES ON SOME THINGS.
10:02:45AM DOESN'T MEAN IT'S PERFECT, DOESN'T MEAN IT'S OKAY BUT I
10:02:48AM WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.
10:02:51AM THOSE SIGNS SHOULD BE UP TOMORROW.
10:02:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST TO THE KING STATE ISSUE REAL FAST, CITY
10:02:57AM COUNCIL IS LIMITED IN WHAT WE CAN DO IN SITUATIONS LIKE
10:03:00AM THAT.
10:03:01AM ONCE WE APPROVE ADMINISTRATORS, WE CAN'T REMOVE THEM.
10:03:05AM THEY DON'T REPORT TO US.
10:03:06AM THEY REPORT TO THE MAYOR.
10:03:07AM IF THEY DON'T PERFORM IN THE WAY THAT WE OR THE PUBLIC LIKE,
10:03:11AM CITY COUNCIL CAN ASK A REPORT TO US, BUT ULTIMATELY IT IS
10:03:14AM THE MAYOR'S RESPONSIBILITY TO OVERSEE THEM.
10:03:16AM THE SAME THING WITH CONTRACTORS.
10:03:18AM IF CONTRACTORS DO NOT FULFILL THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY OR
10:03:22AM DO SOMETHING AGAINST A COMMUNITY, WE CANNOT CANCEL A
10:03:25AM CONTRACT.
10:03:26AM WE CAN ONLY APPROVE THEM.
10:03:27AM IF THE SAME CONTRACTORS COME BACK AGAIN AFTER HAVING
10:03:30AM DISRUPTED THE COMMUNITY, WE CAN CHOOSE TO NOT VOTE FOR THEIR
10:03:33AM CONTRACTS AGAIN.
10:03:35AM AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS SAID, WE ALSO HAVE ASKED FOR FOUR
10:03:39AM YEARS OF REFORM OF CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION WHICH IS A GROUP
10:03:41AM THAT OVERSEES THESE KINDS OF CONTRACTS.
10:03:44AM THE ADMINISTRATION BROUGHT IN A NEW DIRECTOR A FEW MONTHS
10:03:47AM AGO AND HE'S WORKING HARD TO TRY TO FULFILL THE TRANSPARENCY
10:03:50AM AND PUBLIC INTEREST THAT WE'VE ASKED THEM TO ATTEND.
10:03:54AM I WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU HAVE ISSUES ABOUT THIS PROJECT,
10:03:59AM ADDRESS THEM TO THE PUBLIC WORKS OR THE MAYOR.
10:04:01AM THE MAYOR IS THE ONE WHO CAN DIRECTLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON
10:04:04AM IT.
10:04:04AM WE CAN ASK PEOPLE TO REPORT TO US, BUT THE MAYOR CAN CHANGE
10:04:07AM THIS TODAY.
10:04:08AM THANK YOU.
10:04:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE SAME.
10:04:10AM I RECEIVED COMMUNICATION OR CALLS FROM FOLKS REGARDING KING
10:04:14AM STATE AND TO HELP THEM OUT, I CALLED THE CITY ATTORNEY.
10:04:16AM I REACHED OUT TO MR. BAIRD REGARDING RISK MANAGEMENT AND
10:04:22AM WHAT WE CAN DO AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
10:04:23AM WE ARE LISTENING.
10:04:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ABSOLUTELY.
10:04:29AM I WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR THE WORK SHE HAS
10:04:32AM DONE ON THIS ISSUE.
10:04:33AM IT IS UNACCEPTABLE THE IMPACT THIS HAS HAD ON LOCAL
10:04:39AM BUSINESSES.
10:04:40AM THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, FOR DOING THE OUTREACH AND
10:04:42AM TRYING TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS.
10:04:44AM HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE A LEARNING LESSON FOR THE CITY AND
10:04:47AM WON'T REPEAT.
10:04:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S A LEARNING ISSUE FOR ALL OF US.
10:04:54AM MAYBE IN THE FUTURE THIS SETS A TONE OF HOW WHEN YOU HAVE A
10:04:57AM ROAD CLOSURE HOW MANY SIGNS YOU NEED, MAYBE THE DIRECTION,
10:05:02AM MR. BENNETT, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS?
10:05:04AM I'M JUST ASKING IF MAYBE HE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE ITEMS
10:05:07AM BROUGHT UP HERE SINCE HE IS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:05:10AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:05:12AM GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC.
10:05:13AM THE ONLY THING I CAN ADD IS FIRST I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL
10:05:16AM FOR BRINGING THIS TO STAFF'S ATTENTION AND THE
10:05:18AM ADMINISTRATION.
10:05:18AM WE REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT OPEN DIALOGUE BETWEEN ALL PEOPLE
10:05:22AM THAT CAN SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
10:05:23AM BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE MAYOR PULLED IN STAFF AS WELL
10:05:28AM AND HAD A TIMELY CONVERSATION TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT
10:05:31AM ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO NOW AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN THE
10:05:35AM FUTURE IN ALL THE SITUATIONS.
10:05:36AM THANK YOU.
10:05:40AM >>LUIS VIERA: I THINK WE ALL REACHED OUT TO THE APPROPRIATE
10:05:42AM ENTITIES ON THIS.
10:05:43AM I'LL ECHO WHAT OTHER FOLKS SAID AND THANK PEOPLE HERE FROM
10:05:47AM KING STATE.
10:05:48AM WHEN YOU SEE A BUSINESS AFFECTED SO ADVERSELY BECAUSE OF
10:05:51AM CONSTRUCTION, IT BREAKS YOUR HEART.
10:05:53AM IT REALLY, REALLY DOES.
10:05:54AM THIS IS ONE OBVIOUSLY SO LOVED BY THE COMMUNITY.
10:05:56AM AGAIN, LIKE I WAS TELLING SOMEBODY ON THE PHONE TWO DAYS
10:05:59AM AGO, OUR BUSINESSES HAVE TAKEN SO MANY HITS OVER THE LAST
10:06:03AM FEW YEARS, BUSINESSES OBVIOUSLY STILL REMEMBER COVID AND ALL
10:06:06AM THE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAT POSED AND BUSINESSES HAVE
10:06:09AM GOTTEN THROUGH SO MANY HURDLES AND NOW HERE IS ANOTHER ONE.
10:06:12AM I THINK ALL OF US ARE UNITED IN HELPING TO FIND SOLUTIONS ON
10:06:16AM THIS.
10:06:17AM I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS DONE A LOT OF GOOD WORK.
10:06:19AM I FORWARDED ONE OF HER POSTS ON MY CITY COUNCIL PAGE
10:06:23AM SALUTING HER WORK.
10:06:24AM I KNOW COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO HAS ALSO DONE A LOT OF WORK ON
10:06:27AM CONTRACTOR ISSUES IN THE SEMINOLE AND TAMPA HEIGHTS AREA AS
10:06:30AM WELL.
10:06:30AM AGAIN, WHEN YOU ALL HERE FOR THAT, YOU GOT A COUNCIL THAT'S
10:06:36AM LISTENING AND A CITY GOVERNMENT THAT'S LISTENING.
10:06:38AM I THINK WE'LL DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN.
10:06:40AM BUT BE HONEST ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO.
10:06:42AM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:06:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:06:44AM ALL RIGHT.
10:06:44AM WE HAVE REGISTERED COMMENT SPEAKERS.
10:06:46AM WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE FIRST AND THEN, MR. SHELBY, YOU'LL
10:06:49AM READ THE RULES FOR EVERYBODY HERE AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH IN
10:06:53AM PERSON.
10:06:54AM RUBEN WARE?
10:06:55AM IS HE ON LINE?
10:06:58AM >>THE CLERK: HE IS NOT THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:07:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE
10:07:03AM UNMUTE YOURSELF AND STATE YOUR NAME.
10:07:05AM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
10:07:06AM ACTUALLY, GOOD MORNING.
10:07:08AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:07:10AM I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
10:07:18AM COVID AND THE FLU IS UP, SO PLEASE PROTECT YOURSELF.
10:07:20AM THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THAT WE
10:07:24AM HAVE COMING UP.
10:07:25AM THE FIRST IS THE GRANT WORKSHOP ON JANUARY THE 17th.
10:07:30AM THIS PARTICULAR COURSE IS ANYWHERE FROM SIX TO EIGHT WEEKS.
10:07:35AM TEACHES INDIVIDUALS IN WEST TAMPA, ESPECIALLY LOW-INCOME
10:07:38AM INDIVIDUALS HOW TO WRITE A GRANT.
10:07:41AM THEY CAN MAKE ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 200 DOLLARS PER HOUR.
10:07:45AM THE SECOND THING THAT COMES UP IS THE BUSINESS PLAN WORKSHOP
10:07:48AM ON JANUARY THE 18th.
10:07:50AM AGAIN, FOR LOW-INCOME INDIVIDUALS IN WEST TAMPA.
10:07:59AM INDIVIDUALS CAN MAKE ANYWHERE FROM A THOUSAND TO 5,000 PER
10:08:03AM GRANT.
10:08:03AM THE NEXT WORKSHOP IS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, CHAT GBT.
10:08:10AM I'M IN LOVE WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
10:08:12AM THAT'S GOING TO BE ON JANUARY THE 19th.
10:08:15AM IT HAS TAKEN MY BUSINESS TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
10:08:18AM FINALLY, COMMUNITY MEETING ON HEALTH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND
10:08:25AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON JANUARY THE 31st.
10:08:28AM THESE PARTICULAR MEETINGS LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN
10:08:32AM NEW YORK, CHICAGO, PHILLY AND BALTIMORE.
10:08:34AM IN BALTIMORE, THEY HAVE REDUCED THE MURDER RATE BY 20%.
10:08:40AM SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT MODEL FOR TAMPA.
10:08:43AM IN FACT, NO OTHER MODEL IN FLORIDA THAT MIMICS THAT
10:08:46AM PARTICULAR THING.
10:08:48AM THE FOCUS IS GOING TO BE ON THE HARD AND HARD CORE THAT LIVE
10:08:54AM IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:08:55AM WE CANNOT ARREST OUR WAY OUT OF THIS SO USING ECONOMIC
10:08:58AM DEVELOPMENT AS A STRATEGY TO CHANGE THE MIND.
10:09:00AM AS A SIDE NOTE, WE'RE MEETING WITH THE -- HOME BASE COMMERCE
10:09:10AM INITIATIVE.
10:09:10AM WE BELIEVE THAT WAITING FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO DO REPARATIONS
10:09:15AM IS A JOKE.
10:09:16AM WE BELIEVE IN GOING TO THE BANKS AND GETTING REPARATIONS IN
10:09:22AM TERMS OF GETTING BUSINESSES TO GET STARTED IN WEST TAMPA
10:09:24AM ESPECIALLY FOR THE LOW-INCOME INDIVIDUALS.
10:09:27AM AGAIN, WE BELIEVE REPARATIONS HAVE TO START WITH US.
10:09:31AM SO WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE BANKS TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE
10:09:34AM CAN GET ESPECIALLY LOW-INCOME INDIVIDUALS TO START THEIR
10:09:37AM BUSINESS.
10:09:37AM THIS IS A NEW YEAR, A NEW ATTITUDE.
10:09:41AM I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:09:44AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
10:09:48AM THANK YOU.
10:09:48AM HAVE A NICE DAY.
10:09:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:09:50AM WE HAVE CHARISSA STEPP.
10:09:53AM >>THE CLERK: THEY ARE NOT LOGGED ON AT THIS TIME.
10:09:55AM THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE BRENT CAYSON.
10:09:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BRENT CAYSON, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE
10:10:00AM UNMUTE YOURSELF AND STATE YOUR NAME.
10:10:01AM BRENT CAYSON.
10:10:12AM >> YEAH, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:10:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
10:10:15AM >> THANK YOU.
10:10:16AM THIS IS IN RELATION TO THE KING STATE.
10:10:19AM IS IT OKAY TO GO BEFORE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS OR MOTIONS THAT
10:10:23AM THEY MAKE?
10:10:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:10:25AM GO AHEAD.
10:10:26AM >> THANK YOU.
10:10:26AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, CITY COUNCIL.
10:10:28AM I'M 44 YEARS OLD AND KNOWN NATE AND THE OWNERS FOR KING
10:10:32AM STATE ALMOST HALF MY LIFE.
10:10:34AM THAT'S NOT THE NORM.
10:10:36AM THAT'S ONLY THE WAY IT'S BEEN WITH FRIENDS.
10:10:38AM MOST AUTHENTIC AND HARDWORKING PEOPLE.
10:10:42AM FULL CIRCLE WITH KING STATE, LOCAL BARTENDERS, MANAGED
10:10:49AM HOSPITALITIES AND LAUNCHED BARS AROUND TAMPA NOW MANAGING
10:10:52AM THE KING STATE LOCATION.
10:10:54AM ONE OF THE SISTERS ALWAYS AN AMAZING KITCHEN, BAKING CHEF,
10:10:59AM LAUNCHED THE PROGRAM FOR FOOD.
10:11:00AM LONGTIME FRIEND WHO DESIGNED ALBUM COVERS AND GRAMMY
10:11:04AM NOMINATED HAS DONE ALL THE DESIGN AND BRANDING.
10:11:06AM IT'S INCREDIBLY FAMILY-ORIENTED BUSINESS.
10:11:10AM TIM AND NATE ARE IN SUCCESSFUL TOURING BANDS.
10:11:13AM I ALSO TOUR AND WORK WITH BANDS.
10:11:16AM WE GET TO EXPERIENCE DIFFERENT AREAS OF CITIES AND STATES
10:11:19AM AROUND THE COUNTRY, HITTING UP FAVORITE COFFEE SHOPS OR
10:11:22AM CHECKING OUT NEW ONES.
10:11:23AM MANY PEOPLE MOVE AWAY FROM HOME ONCE THEY EXPERIENCE THESE
10:11:27AM PLACES OR PEOPLE HAVE IDEAS TO LAUNCH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
10:11:30AM GO TO LARGER CITIES, COOLER, MAYBE EASIER.
10:11:33AM WE HAVE FRIENDS THAT JUST LEFT TAMPA AND LAUNCHED A COFFEE
10:11:36AM SHOP IN NASHVILLE THIS YEAR.
10:11:38AM THESE GUYS NEVER WANTED TO LEAVE TAMPA.
10:11:40AM THEY SAID FROM THE GET-GO THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING RIGHT
10:11:43AM IN THEIR OWN CITY TO HELP PUSH THE PROGRESS.
10:11:46AM I REMEMBER 2018 BEING ON TOUR AND AFTER LATE NIGHTS, KEPT ME
10:11:53AM AWAKE BEFORE MOST OF THE ROAD CREW, ON PHONE CALLS WITH
10:11:56AM CONTRACTORS, TALKING ABOUT THE SHOP.
10:11:58AM STRAIGHT INTO WORKING ON THE BLACK TOP, RECORDING MUSIC,
10:12:01AM WORKING ON THE SHOW INTO A FAMILY, SOUND CHECK AND PLAYING A
10:12:07AM SHOW HOUR AND A HALF AND REPEAT THE NEXT DAY.
10:12:10AM EVEN FLEW HOME WHEN HE HAD ONE DAY OFF BETWEEN SHOWS FOR A
10:12:13AM CITY COUNCIL MEETING LIKE THIS CONCERNING KING STATE JUST TO
10:12:17AM GET THIS DREAM LAUNCHED.
10:12:21AM THE SHOP IS MY FAVORITE PLACE IN THE COUNTRY TO HANG OUT.
10:12:24AM HOW OFTEN IS THERE A COFFEE SHOP WITH A BAR, KILLER FOOD AND
10:12:27AM OLD GAS STATION WITH ALL THE NATURAL LIGHT.
10:12:30AM I HAVEN'T BEEN TO ANY THAT CHECK ALL THOSE BOXES.
10:12:33AM BECAUSE OF THEIR CAREER AND BEING GENUINE PEOPLE WHO
10:12:37AM EVERYONE STAYED FRIENDS WITH, FRIENDS FROM BANDS ALL AROUND
10:12:40AM THE COUNTRY TO PUSH SUPPORT FOR KING STATE.
10:12:47AM WHETHER ONLINE OR IN THE STORE BUYING COFFEE BEANS.
10:12:51AM HOPEFULLY THAT HELPS FINANCIALLY.
10:12:53AM WHAT ABOUT BUSINESSES FACING THE SAME HARDSHIP WHO MAY NOT
10:12:56AM HAVE THE SUPPORT OF LARGE ROCK BANDS WHO PLAYED OUT SOLD-OUT
10:13:00AM SHOWS AND HAVE HUGE ONLINE PRESENCE ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
10:13:04AM [BEEP]
10:13:05AM THOSE BUSINESSES DESERVE THE CITY TO HAVE THEIR BACK, TOO,
10:13:09AM WHICH IS NOT HAPPENING HERE.
10:13:10AM I'M GLAD THE CITY IS PUTTING MONEY INTO REDESIGNING SOME
10:13:13AM ROADS WITH BIKE LANES AND BETTER STRUCTURE AS A CYCLIST
10:13:17AM MYSELF.
10:13:18AM BUT IF BUSINESSES LIKE THIS CLOSE UP BECAUSE THE CITY OF
10:13:20AM TAMPA AND THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY'S SHORTSIGHTEDNESS, WHERE
10:13:26AM WILL ANYONE BE BIKING OR SCOOTING TO?
10:13:28AM THANK YOU.
10:13:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:13:30AM NEXT SPEAKER IS NICOLE ROURKE.
10:13:33AM NICOLE ROURKE, IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:13:40AM LET ME KNOW IF SHE COMES BACK.
10:13:47AM MR. SHELBY, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD?
10:13:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:13:51AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:13:54AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
10:13:57AM AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S COUNCIL MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY
10:14:00AM ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL
10:14:04AM ACTION ON AN ITEM.
10:14:05AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
10:14:09AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:14:10AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
10:14:13AM THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
10:14:17AM MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
10:14:20AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
10:14:24AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
10:14:27AM PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR
10:14:30AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
10:14:31AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
10:14:35AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
10:14:39AM COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
10:14:43AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL'S RULES MAY ALSO
10:14:48AM BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY
10:14:51AM BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY'S
10:14:55AM MEETING.
10:14:55AM IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING,
10:14:59AM YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN THE ITEM IS HEARD LATER
10:15:02AM IN THE AGENDA.
10:15:03AM NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN LATER DURING STAFF REPORTS.
10:15:06AM THE TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT THOSE ITEMS AND ITEMS ON THE CONSENT
10:15:10AM AGENDA IS NOW DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:15:13AM FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING
10:15:16AM THE SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE
10:15:19AM AWARE THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A
10:15:23AM DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:15:25AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
10:15:29AM THANK YOU.
10:15:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:31AM THE FIRST SPEAKER, YES, SIR.
10:15:38AM >> REPARATIONS.
10:15:40AM I WANT THAT TO BE THE FIRST WORD COME OUT OF MY MOUTH FOR
10:15:44AM 2024 IN FRONT OF THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
10:15:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR NAME, SIR.
10:15:48AM >> MENTESNOT.
10:15:49AM THAT MEANS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AND TAMPA, FLORIDA ADDRESS.
10:15:56AM I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, I'VE SAID IT IN THE PAST, AND I'LL
10:15:58AM PROBABLY SAY IT IN THE FUTURE.
10:16:00AM IT'S A GARBAGE CITY COUNCIL.
10:16:03AM EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU ALL 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T SPEAK OF
10:16:09AM YOU INDIVIDUALLY SO YOU HAVE TO SPEAK OF YOU COLLECTIVELY.
10:16:13AM IT'S A GARBAGE CITY COUNCIL.
10:16:15AM IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A GARBAGE CITY COUNCIL.
10:16:17AM BEEN A GARBAGE CITY COUNCIL SINCE 1855 BECAUSE IN THE PAST
10:16:22AM WHEN I HAD TO COME HERE HAD TO CHAIN MYSELF TO THE CHAIR.
10:16:26AM CHAIN MYSELF TO THE CHAIR IN ORDER TO GET UP HERE AND SPEAK,
10:16:30AM IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO STAY IN HERE BECAUSE THEY USED TO PUT
10:16:32AM BLACK PEOPLE OUT OF HERE OR THIS BLACK PERSON OUT OF HERE
10:16:35AM WHO DON'T TOE THE LINE, LIKE A DOG, LIKE AN ANIMAL.
10:16:41AM TREAT US LIKE DIRT AND PUT US TO THE BACK OF THE BUS AND
10:16:44AM THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO TODAY RIGHT NOW WITH THE
10:16:47AM PALESTINIANS.
10:16:48AM TRYING TO PUT THEM TO THE BACK OF THE BUS RIGHT HERE LIVE.
10:16:51AM THEY CAN GO DOWNSTAIRS AND THEY CAN SPEAK LAST BECAUSE AND
10:16:55AM YOU ALL MFs RAN A WHOLE AGENDA TALKING ABOUT KING STATE,
10:17:02AM WHITE PEOPLE SITUATION.
10:17:03AM WHOLE AGENDA OUTSIDE OF THE AGENDA.
10:17:05AM TALKING ABOUT RULES AND REGULATIONS AND DECORUM.
10:17:08AM YOU REASON A WHOLE AGENDA OUTSIDE AND SAY, NO, WE PUT THE
10:17:12AM WHITE PEOPLE TO SPEAK FIRST BEFORE THE PEOPLE SUFFERING IN
10:17:16AM PALESTINE.
10:17:17AM 50,000 WOMEN AND CHILDREN MOSTLY DEAD AND YOU ALL PUT THAT
10:17:21AM AHEAD.
10:17:22AM GARBAGE CITY COUNCIL.
10:17:23AM THIS AIN'T AN AGENDA.
10:17:24AM IT'S A MENU.
10:17:25AM WHEN YOU SERVE UP THIS MENU YOU CAN PUT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO
10:17:27AM ON IT.
10:17:28AM YOU CAN HAVE WALK-ONS.
10:17:30AM YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.
10:17:33AM NO TRANSPARENCY.
10:17:34AM YOU CAN DO $109 MILLION POLICE BUILDING THAT BALLOONED INTO
10:17:41AM SOMETHING ELSE.
10:17:41AM AND NOBODY KNOW ABOUT IT.
10:17:44AM IT'S A MENU.
10:17:45AM WHEN YOU GO TO THE NASTY RESTAURANT AND THEY DON'T LIKE YOU,
10:17:47AM YOU CAN DO ANYTHING WHEN YOU ORDER SOMETHING OFF THE MENU.
10:17:51AM SPIT IN YOUR FOOD.
10:17:52AM GIVE YOU THE WRONG FOOD AND MAKE YOU LIKE IT, TO SHOW YOU'RE
10:17:56AM NOT WELCOME.
10:17:56AM THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL DID TODAY.
10:17:58AM IT WAS HATEFUL.
10:18:00AM IT WAS SPITEFUL.
10:18:02AM AND IT'S DEPLORABLE.
10:18:03AM SOMEBODY PUTTING SOMEBODY OUT A BUILDING BUT SOMEBODY
10:18:07AM ANNOUNCING THEY GOT COVID A FEW DAYS AGO AND DON'T HAVE A
10:18:12AM MF --
10:18:15AM [ LAUGHTER ]
10:18:15AM YEAH, IT'S A GREAT DICHOTOMY AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT.
10:18:19AM I DON'T CARE HOW YOU'RE SUFFERING.
10:18:22AM PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO ACCEPT THE NONSENSE.
10:18:25AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THE SUFFERING PEACEFULLY AND GROWN
10:18:29AM PEOPLE CAN'T ACCEPT SOME PEOPLE GETTING UP AND CHANTING FOR
10:18:32AM A FEW MINUTES.
10:18:33AM GOT TO PUT THEM OUT OF THE BUILDING AND CALL THE GESTAPO ON
10:18:36AM THEM.
10:18:37AM MORE POLICE OUTSIDE THAN IMAGINABLE FOR NO REASON, FOR SOME
10:18:41AM PEACEFUL CITIZENS.
10:18:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:18:43AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:18:49AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:18:51AM CONNIE BURTON.
10:18:52AM FIRST, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK THE COUNCILMEN FOR TALKING
10:18:56AM ABOUT TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE THIS MORNING GETTING READY TO
10:19:01AM COME HERE, IT WAS JUST NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PAY FOR THE
10:19:07AM FIREMEN, BUT ALSO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF BONDING FOR FIRE
10:19:13AM STATION.
10:19:14AM I'M HOPING THAT THAT IS NOT ALL PACKAGED TOGETHER AND WE
10:19:18AM HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT AS A COMMUNITY.
10:19:22AM BECAUSE INSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY, I WISH A SIMPLE ROADBLOCK
10:19:27AM WAS OUR ISSUES.
10:19:28AM BUT OUR ISSUES HAVE BEEN SWAMPED WITH YEARS OF INJUSTICE.
10:19:33AM SO THE ISSUE ON ITEM NUMBER 4, THE APPRENTICE PROGRAM, WE
10:19:38AM WANT TO MAKE SURE EVEN IF IT'S GOING TO AN AFRICAN FACILITY
10:19:43AM THAT IT HAS THE CHECKS AND BALANCES BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD TOO
10:19:48AM MUCH MONEY GO TO ENTITIES.
10:19:50AM WHEN WE LOOK TO SEE WHAT IS THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE
10:19:53AM GOING THROUGH THOSE PROGRAMS, WE SEE A BIG ADMINISTRATIVE
10:19:57AM SALARIES AND THE PEOPLE STILL SUFFERING.
10:20:00AM WE DON'T WANT NO MORE OF THAT.
10:20:02AM I LIKE THE FACT, ITEM NUMBER 11 TALK ABOUT CHILDREN, YOUNG
10:20:06AM PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITY.
10:20:08AM I COULD TELL YOU ABOUT A WHOLE BUNCH OF CHILDREN GIVEN
10:20:12AM RITALIN IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:20:14AM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD QUALIFY.
10:20:16AM I KNOW THIS IS FOR A SPECIAL GROUP.
10:20:18AM WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES THAT WILL IMPROVE THE LIVES
10:20:21AM OF YOUNG PEOPLE INSIDE OF EAST TAMPA, WE WANT TO SEE THE
10:20:24AM SAME CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THEY ARE DEALING WITH A BOATLOAD
10:20:28AM OF ISSUES.
10:20:30AM AND ITEM NUMBER 48, YOU-ALL TEND TO WANT TO GIVE MONEY
10:20:35AM BECAUSE THEY COME DOWN AND THEY COME DOWN WITH SPECIAL
10:20:41AM STATUTE TITLES AND WHATEVER.
10:20:44AM I AM VERY, VERY OPPOSED TO SOLITA HOUSE GETTING A DIME.
10:20:51AM LAST YEAR, ONLY ABLE TO MOVE SIX PEOPLE INTO HOME OWNERSHIP.
10:20:55AM THEY HAVE A BUILDING RIGHT NOW ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE THAT
10:20:58AM IT CAME TO THE EAST TAMPA CRA ASKING FOR $450,000 TO
10:21:03AM COMPLETE THEIR STRUCTURE.
10:21:04AM IF ANYBODY NEEDS SOME COUNSELING ON FINANCIAL ISSUES, IT'S
10:21:10AM THEM.
10:21:11AM DO NOT JUST GIVE MONEY TO THESE ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE THEY
10:21:14AM ARE NOT PUSHING THE NEEDLES TO HELP THE PROGRESS OF BLACK
10:21:20AM PEOPLE.
10:21:20AM IT IS NOT WORKING FOR US.
10:21:22AM LASTLY, I WAS TOTALLY DISAPPOINTED.
10:21:26AM VERY QUICKLY, TO HEAR THAT ONE OF THE CITY STAFFERS HAD BEEN
10:21:29AM REMOVED FROM A SATURDAY MORNING PROGRAM OF GREGORY HART AS
10:21:35AM IF THAT PROGRAM BECOMES THE VOICE FOR THE CITY, IT IS
10:21:41AM DISTASTEFUL.
10:21:42AM IT IS HURTFUL IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:21:45AM LEADS TO SUSPICION.
10:21:46AM WHAT THE HELL DID HE DO?
10:21:48AM IF THE CITY HAS SOME ANNOUNCEMENT TO MAKE REGARDING ANYTHING
10:21:52AM THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON BLACK PEOPLE'S
10:21:55AM LIVES, LET IT COME FROM MR. BENNETT AND HIS STAFF.
10:21:58AM THANK YOU.
10:21:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:21:59AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:22:00AM YES, SIR.
10:22:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE CHAMBER.
10:22:06AM THE OTHER MONTH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, COUNCILMAN PRESENTED
10:22:13AM THE CITY OF TAMPA SCORECARD.
10:22:16AM WHEN HE PRESENTED THE SCORECARD, ONE OF THE FIRST
10:22:19AM PowerPoints STATED WHAT GETS MEASURED GETS DONE.
10:22:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS YOUR NAME, SIR?
10:22:23AM >> I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS DARRYL HYCH.
10:22:26AM IT STATED WHAT GETS MEASURED GETS DONE.
10:22:29AM AND THEN IT HAD A BOTTOM SUBTOPIC THAT STATED, WHY MEASURE?
10:22:34AM IN THAT SCORECARD, IT HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT KEY METRICS.
10:22:40AM SOME OF THE KEY METRICS WERE PER CAPITA INCOME, MEDIAN
10:22:44AM HOUSEHOLD INCOME, POVERTY RATE, AND MANY OTHER THINGS THAT
10:22:47AM WAS IN THAT SCORECARD.
10:22:49AM I WANT TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO SOME OF THE THINGS HE
10:22:51AM MENTIONED.
10:22:51AM THE PER CAPITA INCOME FOR BENCHMARK CITIES WITH $40,962 FOR
10:22:57AM TAMPA IN COMPARISON TO CHARLOTTE AT $43,000.
10:23:03AM THE PER CAPITA INCOME FOR TAMPA WAS THIRD HIGHEST MAJOR
10:23:09AM FLORIDA CITY.
10:23:11AM PERCENT OF POPULATION LIVING IN POVERTY IN TAMPA, 17.8% AND
10:23:15AM FT. LAUDERDALE IS 15.5%.
10:23:18AM THERE IS A DISPARITY BETWEEN AFRICAN AMERICAN AND CAUCASIAN,
10:23:24AM 31,983 FOR TAMPA AND 25,381 FOR ST. PETE.
10:23:30AM I BRING ALL THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE I THINK THAT WHEN
10:23:33AM WE PUT TOGETHER SCORECARDS, WE PUT THEM TOGETHER SO WE CAN
10:23:37AM WIN, SO WE CAN BE COMPETITIVE IN THE THINGS THAT WE DO.
10:23:40AM AND WHAT I KEEP SEEING AND WHAT I KEEP HEARING IS THAT
10:23:44AM YOU'RE LEAVING OUT A TOTAL POPULATION FROM BEING A PART OF
10:23:47AM YOUR SCORECARD.
10:23:48AM CHARLOTTE CAN WIN.
10:23:50AM ST. PETE CAN WIN.
10:23:52AM WHY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE INVESTED AND PUT TOOLS IN PLACE FOR
10:23:55AM THEIR AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY.
10:23:56AM THREE YEARS AGO YOU ALL WERE PRESENTED AND YOU SAID OUT OF
10:24:02AM YOUR OWN MOUTH THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER A RECONCILIATION
10:24:06AM COMMISSION FOR RESOLUTION 568.
10:24:09AM ALL WE'RE ASKING IS FOR YOU TO APPOINT AND GET IT STARTED
10:24:16AM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE CALL OURSELVES TAMPA BAY, TAMPA BAY, WE
10:24:19AM HAVE A SCORECARD THAT WAS ARTICULATED PERFECTLY AND DESIGNED
10:24:24AM WHICH TELLS ME THAT YOU WANT TO WIN.
10:24:26AM YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO WIN BECAUSE WE'RE SITTING ON
10:24:30AM THE SIDELINES SAYING, HEY, PUT US IN THE GAME COACH.
10:24:35AM PUT US IN THE GAME, COACH.
10:24:37AM IF YOU PUT US IN THE GAME, WE WILL HELP YOU WIN.
10:24:40AM BUT AS LONG AS YOU NEVER TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT YOU
10:24:45AM SAID WITH THAT RECONCILIATION COMMISSION THAT WAS TO REVIEW
10:24:50AM SIX BULLET POINTS THAT YOU PUT IN PLACE, IF YOU NEVER DO
10:24:54AM THAT, THEN WHY ARE WE TAKING THE TIME PUTTING TOGETHER A
10:24:58AM SCORECARD?
10:24:58AM PUT US IN THE GAME, COACH.
10:25:01AM THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING.
10:25:03AM PUT US IN THE GAME.
10:25:04AM WE WANT TO PLAY AND YOU GAVE US THE PLAY BOOK.
10:25:07AM PUT THE COMMISSION TOGETHER.
10:25:08AM THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING.
10:25:09AM PUT THE COMMISSION TOGETHER.
10:25:11AM THANK YOU.
10:25:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:25:12AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:25:15AM >> MY NAME IS FRANKLIN PEREZ.
10:25:17AM I LIVE IN SEMINOLE AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTIES.
10:25:21AM IF YOU HAVE PASSED ANY PRO-ISRAEL RESOLUTIONS IN THE PAST, I
10:25:24AM ASK THAT YOU RESCIND THEM ALL.
10:25:26AM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
10:25:27AM ISRAEL IS A JEWISH SUPREMACIST APARTHEID STATE COMMITTING
10:25:32AM ETHNIC CLEANSING AND HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES AGAINST
10:25:34AM PALESTINIANS FOR 75 PLUS YEARS AS PER REPORTS FROM REPUTABLE
10:25:38AM HUMAN RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE B'TSELEM, HUMAN RIGHTS
10:25:42AM WATCH, AND AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL.
10:25:44AM AND TODAY ISRAEL IS ON TRIAL AT THE HAGUE INTERNATIONAL
10:25:49AM COURT ON CHARGES OF GENOCIDE AGAINST PALESTINIANS.
10:25:53AM STOP SUPPORTING ISRAEL.
10:25:56AM STOP GIVING IT WEAPONS, STOP GIVING IT MONEY, AND CONDEMN IT
10:26:01AM FOR WHAT IT IS -- AN APARTHEID AND GENOCIDAL STATE.
10:26:02AM GAZA IS AN OPEN AIR CONCENTRATION CAMP.
10:26:07AM THE ISRAELI APARTHEID REGIME'S PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN
10:26:07AM NETANYAHU HAS INVOKED GENOCIDAL LANGUAGE AGAINST
10:26:11AM PALESTINIANS IN THE GAZA CONCENTRATION CAMP BY REFERRING TO
10:26:14AM AN ANCIENT BIBLICAL PASSAGE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT COMPARING
10:26:18AM PALESTINIANS TO THE AMALEKITES THAT MUST ALL BE PUT TO
10:26:23AM DEATH -- MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN, BABIES.
10:26:23AM THE ISRAELI APARTHEID REGIME'S DEFENSE MINISTER YOAV GALLANT
10:26:28AM HAS DEHUMANIZED PALESTINIANS BY REFERRING TO PALESTINIANS IN
10:26:31AM THE GAZA CONCENTRATION CAMP AS HUMAN ANIMALS.
10:26:33AM MIKO PELED, ISRAELI JEW, SON OF A FAMOUS ISRAELI JEW
10:26:37AM GENERAL, EX-ZIONIST OCCUPATION FORCES ENFORCER AND
10:26:41AM PALESTINIAN RIGHTS ACTIVIST HAS STATED THAT THE ISRAELI ARMY
10:26:44AM IS THE BEST TERRORIST GROUP IN THE WORLD.
10:26:46AM EX-ISRAELI JEW ZIONIST OCCUPATION FORCES PILOT YONATAN
10:26:49AM SHAPIRA HAS STATED THAT THE ISRAELI ARMY IS A TERRORIST
10:26:55AM ORGANIZATION RUN BY WAR CRIMINALS.
10:26:57AM AT THIS POINT, DUE TO SCATTERED ZIONIST ONLY OCCUPIER
10:27:01AM SETTLEMENTS IN THE WEST BANK, THE ONLY FAIR SOLUTION TO THE
10:27:06AM ISRAEL PALESTINE CONFLICT IS A ONE STATE SOLUTION WHERE
10:27:07AM EVERYONE, JEW AND PALESTINIAN, HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS.
10:27:10AM THAT IS WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS A FREE PALESTINE FROM THE
10:27:12AM JORDAN RIVER TO THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA.
10:27:15AM ALL U.S. GOVERNMENT ENTITIES SHOULD BE PRESSURING THE
10:27:18AM ISRAELI APARTHEID REGIME TO MOVE TOWARDS SUCH A FREE
10:27:21AM PALESTINE, THAT INCLUDES THE DISMANTLING OF THE GAZA
10:27:24AM CONCENTRATION CAMP.
10:27:25AM THE REFRAIN THAT ISRAEL HAS RIGHT TO SELF-DEFENSE IS A RED
10:27:28AM HERRING.
10:27:29AM THE REAL QUESTION IS, DOES ISRAEL HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE
10:27:32AM FORCE TO MAINTAIN AN ILLEGAL OCCUPATION AND APARTHEID STATE,
10:27:36AM THAT COMMITS ETHNIC CLEANSING, HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES AND
10:27:38AM GENOCIDE AGAINST PALESTINIANS?
10:27:40AM THE CLEAR ANSWER IS NO.
10:27:42AM UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW, ISRAEL HAS NO RIGHT OF SELF-DEFENSE
10:27:46AM WHEN IT IS THE OPPRESSOR AND OCCUPIER WHILE PALESTINIANS DO
10:27:50AM HAVE THE RIGHT TO RESIST AND DEFEND THEMSELVES AGAINST THE
10:27:53AM OPPRESSOR AND OCCUPIER, ISRAELI APARTHEID REGIME.
10:27:56AM TAX DOLLARS SHOULD BE GOING BACK TO OUR OWN COMMUNITIES, NOT
10:27:59AM UNRELENTING BOMBING AND GENOCIDE IN GAZA.
10:28:02AM NO MORE MONEY FOR ISRAEL'S CRIMES.
10:28:04AM I REQUEST THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL INTRODUCE THE
10:28:06AM RESOLUTION TO STAND WITH PALESTINIANS AROUND THE WORLD IN
10:28:09AM DEMANDING AN END TO THE SIEGE OF GAZA, PERMANENT CEASE FIRE
10:28:13AM AND END TO U.S. AID TO ISRAEL, MILITARY, ECONOMIC,
10:28:17AM POLITICAL.
10:28:18AM CEASE FIRE NOW.
10:28:19AM THANK YOU.
10:28:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:28:20AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:28:23AM >> HI, LAYNA VU.
10:28:25AM I'M HERE AGAIN TO URGE YOU TO SEVER ALL TIES THAT THE CITY
10:28:29AM OF TAMPA HAS TO THE SETTLER COLONIAL STATE OF ISRAEL,
10:28:32AM INCLUDING BANNING CROSS TRAINING BETWEEN THE TAMPA POLICE
10:28:35AM DEPARTMENT AND THE ZIONIST OCCUPATION FORCES AND ALSO TO
10:28:38AM PASS A FORMAL RESOLUTION CALLING FOR PERMANENT AND IMMEDIATE
10:28:41AM CEASE FIRE IN PALESTINE.
10:28:43AM CALLING FOR A CEASE FIRE SHOULD NOT BE CONTROVERSIAL.
10:28:45AM I DON'T KNOW WHY BUT SINCE WHEN DID SAYING STOP THE KILLING
10:28:52AM BECOME A HEATED TOPIC.
10:28:53AM WHAT SHOULD BE CONTROVERSIAL, CHOOSING TO LOOK AWAY FROM THE
10:28:57AM FACT THAT ISRAEL HAS BEEN CARPET BOMBING 2.3 MILLION PEOPLE
10:29:00AM THAT THEY FORCE INTO A CONCENTRATION CAMP.
10:29:01AM WHAT'S HAPPENING IN PALESTINE IS NOT A WAR.
10:29:06AM IT'S GENOCIDE.
10:29:08AM IF YOU CALL IT A WAR, CALL IT A WAR ON CIVILIANS, A WAR ON
10:29:12AM CHILDREN OR A WAR ON JOURNALISTS.
10:29:14AM ISRAEL IS NOT ENGAGED IN A WAR FOR ITS EXISTENCE.
10:29:17AM IT IS A NUCLEAR ARMED STATE WITH PROBABLY THE MOST
10:29:21AM TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED ARMY IN THE WORLD AND YET WE'VE
10:29:24AM SEEN THEIR ABILITY TO TAKE OUT SPECIFIC TARGETS WITH DIRECT
10:29:28AM STRIKES, AND THEY ARE STILL CONTINUING TO DROP UNGUIDED
10:29:31AM BOMBS ALL OVER GAZA, INCLUDING SAFE PLACES OR PLACES THAT
10:29:38AM THEY DEEM AS SAFE ZONES.
10:29:40AM WE ARE ALMOST A HUNDRED DAYS INTO THIS GENOCIDE AND OVER A
10:29:44AM HUNDRED JOURNALISTS HAVE BEEN TARGETED AND MURDERED.
10:29:47AM YESTERDAY, I WAS WATCHING THE LIVE STREAM OF -- ONE OF THE
10:29:51AM JOURNALISTS IN GAZA THAT IS THANKFULLY STILL ALIVE NOW.
10:29:55AM SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE RESORTED TO
10:29:57AM EATING THE PLANTS --
10:30:00AM [CELL PHONE RINGING]
10:30:02AM OOPS, SORRY.
10:30:03AM FOR EATING PLANTS OR LEAFS ON TREES AND DRINKING POLLUTED
10:30:07AM WATER.
10:30:07AM NOT ONLY IS THE OCCUPATION BOMBING EVERYTHING IN SIGHT, THEY
10:30:10AM ARE STARVING THEM TO DEATH.
10:30:12AM BUT IT SHOULD MAKE YOU WONDER WHY THE OCCUPATION FORCES
10:30:17AM EVEN HAD THE ABILITY TO CUT OFF ALL FOOD AND WATER TO GAZA
10:30:23AM IN THE FIRST PLACE.
10:30:29AM ISRAEL HAS BEEN BREAKING INTERNATIONAL LAW WELL BEFORE
10:30:33AM OCTOBER 7, AND IT'S EMBARRASSING THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS
10:30:37AM ANY KIND OF CONNECTION TO THE TERRORIST APARTHEID STATE OF
10:30:42AM ISRAEL.
10:30:43AM PEOPLE ARE OUT HERE GETTING UPSET OF A CHANT CALLING FOR THE
10:30:46AM FREEDOM OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE FROM THE JORDAN RIVER TO
10:30:49AM THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA BECAUSE IT ASSUMES THAT WE WANT TO
10:30:53AM WIPE SO-CALLED ISRAELIS OR JEWISH PEOPLE OFF THE MAP, WHERE
10:30:58AM IN REALITY, THE ONES BEING WIPED OFF OF THE EARTH ARE
10:31:01AM PALESTINIANS AND THEIR HISTORY.
10:31:03AM PEOPLE ARE MORE UPSET OF A HYPOTHETICAL GENOCIDE THAN THE
10:31:09AM ONE HAPPENING IN FRONT OF US.
10:31:10AM IF YOU CAN'T ACKNOWLEDGE US, YOU HAVE ROCKS FOR BRAINS AND
10:31:13AM WILLFULLY IGNORANT AND EITHER WAY, YOU WILL REMEMBER AND
10:31:17AM BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS AND ALL OF OUR HANDS BECAUSE OUR TAX
10:31:20AM DOLLARS ARE PAYING FOR THE BOMBS DROPPING ON GAZA BUT AT
10:31:23AM LEAST SOME OF US ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
10:31:26AM FREE PALESTINE FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA.
10:31:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:31:31AM NEXT SPEAKER, STATE YOUR NAME.
10:31:34AM >> I AM LAURA HILL.
10:31:35AM I AM BLACK AND JEWISH AND ALSO AN ARMY VETERAN.
10:31:38AM THE BRUTAL BOMBARDMENT OF GAZA AND THE UNJUST OCCUPATION OF
10:31:43AM PALESTINE HAS GONE ON FOR FAR TOO LONG.
10:31:47AM OVER 22,000 PEOPLE OR OUT OF 100 PALESTINIANS IN GAZA HAVE
10:31:53AM BEEN MURDERED BY THE GENOCIDAL STATE OF ISRAEL IN THE LAST
10:31:58AM FEW MONTHS.
10:31:58AM WE CONTINUE THE FIGHT FOR A CEASE-FIRE IN 2024 SO NO MORE
10:32:02AM ARE KILLED.
10:32:02AM DESPITE INTERNATIONAL PRESSURE, ISRAEL CONTINUES ITS
10:32:06AM HORRIFIC CAMPAIGN OF ETHNIC CLEANSING AND INDISCRIMINATE
10:32:12AM BOMBING.
10:32:13AM THE TEMPORARY CEASE-FIRE WAS NOT ENOUGH.
10:32:15AM WE SHOULD FIGHT FOR PERMANENT CEASE-FIRE.
10:32:18AM SEATTLE, ATLANTA, RICHMOND, OAKLAND, PROVIDENCE, AKRON,
10:32:25AM WILMINGTON AND EASTON PASSED RESOLUTIONS CALLING FOR A
10:32:29AM CEASE-FIRE.
10:32:29AM WE URGE OUR CITY COUNCIL TO FOLLOW SUIT AND SEVER ALL TIES
10:32:34AM TAMPA HAS TO ISRAEL.
10:32:35AM THIS CALL TO ACTION AIMS TO INCREASE PRESSURE AND SPREAD
10:32:38AM AWARENESS.
10:32:39AM WE INTEND TO FLOOD OUR CITY COUNCIL WITH E-MAIL AND CALLS
10:32:46AM AND PACK CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
10:32:47AM OUR DEMANDS ARE MET.
10:32:49AM FOUR DAYS AGO, 4% OF THE POPULATION OF THE GAZA STRIP, MORE
10:32:54AM THAN 90,000 PEOPLE ARE DEAD, MISSING AND WOUNDED INCLUDING
10:32:57AM THOSE WITH LONG-TERM DISABILITIES.
10:33:00AM AS THE GENOCIDAL WAR WAGES AGAINST THEM, ISRAEL HOLDING OF
10:33:07AM WATER, FUEL, FOOD AND ELECTRICITY HAVE PUT THE ENTIRE
10:33:10AM POPULATION AT SERIOUS RISK OF MASS DEATHS FROM FAMINE,
10:33:15AM DEHYDRATION AND DISEASE.
10:33:16AM ISRAEL'S CONTINUAL ATTACKS BY LAND, AIR AND SEA DESTROYED
10:33:21AM 70% OF THE CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE GAZA STRIP SINCE
10:33:25AM OCTOBER 7 WITH COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT OF THE POPULATION AND
10:33:28AM MAKING THE STRIP WHICH HAS BEEN UNDER SIEGE FOR MORE THAN 17
10:33:32AM YEARS.
10:33:33AM AN UNFIT PLACE FOR LIFE, PUSHING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF
10:33:36AM CIVILIANS FOR MASS DISPLACEMENT.
10:33:38AM WE DEMAND A PERMANENT CEASE FIRE, AND WILL NOT BE COME POLICE
10:33:45AM INCIDENTS IN GENOCIDE.
10:33:49AM WE WILL MAINTAIN PRESSURE ON ELECTED OFFICIALS UNTIL OUR
10:33:52AM DEMANDS ARE MET.
10:33:54AM FREE PALESTINE.
10:33:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:57AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:34:00AM >> TIM McTAGUE, AND I AM ONE OF THE OWNERS AND CO-FOUNDERS OF
10:34:04AM KING STATE.
10:34:05AM FIRST OFF, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE TIME, AND I HAVE A
10:34:10AM WHOLE THING PREPARED AND YOU GUYS COVERED A LOT OF THAT AND
10:34:13AM OVER THE PAST FEW WEEKS, WE HAD FRIENDS REACH OUT TO YOUR
10:34:16AM OFFICES.
10:34:16AM MISS HURTAK HAS BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL TO US.
10:34:19AM AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO EXPLAIN IN DETAIL IN A VERY
10:34:25AM CONCISE SCENARIO WHERE WE ARE AT.
10:34:27AM SMALL BUSINESS IS TOUGH.
10:34:29AM RESTAURANT INDUSTRY IS EVEN TOUGHER.
10:34:31AM WE KNOW THAT.
10:34:31AM WE HAVE GOTTEN THROUGH COVID AND A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
10:34:35AM WHEN THIS CONSTRUCTION STARTED, YOU KNOW, IN SEPTEMBER, IT
10:34:38AM WAS BIT OF A BUMMER.
10:34:40AM LOOKING FORWARD TO QUARTER FOUR REALLY PUTTING THE BOW TIE
10:34:43AM ON OUR YEAR.
10:34:44AM WE HAD A REALLY SLOW SUMMER.
10:34:46AM THE HOTTEST SUMMER ON RECORD.
10:34:48AM ALL YOU HAVE OUR FOOD AND BEVERAGE FRIENDS FELT THE SAME
10:34:51AM THING.
10:34:51AM WE WERE WAITING FOR THE WEATHER TO REALLY COOL OFF.
10:34:54AM AND TO THE DAY THAT THE WEATHER COOLED OFF WE HAD CRANES AND
10:34:58AM ROAD BLOCKAGE ON THE STREET.
10:35:00AM THIS IT WAS DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE STUFF HAPPENED IN THE
10:35:04AM CITY.
10:35:04AM FOUR LANES, ZERO THOROUGHFARE.
10:35:07AM I AM SURE YOU GUY HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO.
10:35:09AM I HAVE SENT THE CITY CLAIMS.
10:35:11AM I SENT YOU GUYS VIDEO.
10:35:12AM WE DON'T NEED TO REHASH THAT.
10:35:14AM MY GOAL HERE WITH ALL OF OUR SUPPORTERS NOT TO ABUSE YOU
10:35:17AM TIME AND HAVE THIS BE SOME BIG FILIBUSTER AND SAY THE SAME
10:35:21AM THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
10:35:22AM I DO WANT TO SAY WE HAVE A CLAIM INTO THE CITY AND THIS IS
10:35:25AM MUCH BIGGER THAN GETTING ONE LANE OPEN OR HAVING ONE SIGN
10:35:29AM SAYING WE ARE OPEN.
10:35:29AM WE HAVE LOST SIX FIGURES THIS QUARTER.
10:35:33AM AND WE JUST GOT TOLD LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AGO FINALLY FROM
10:35:38AM THE CITY WHEN THEY FINALLY COMMUNICATED TO US THAT THE SCOPE
10:35:41AM OF WORK WON'T STOP UNTIL APRIL.
10:35:44AM WE HAD MOST OF OUR NEST EGG ALREADY IN QUARTER FOUR.
10:35:49AM THE BIGGEST BUMMER OF THAT, WE ARE NOT EVEN HALFWAY THROUGH
10:35:52AM AND WE ARE SLOWLY, SLOWLY, SLOWLY GOING DOWN TO ZERO.
10:35:56AM IF THAT MEANS RESTRUCTURE WITH THIS CERTAIN TYPE OF FILING,
10:35:59AM TAKE ON NEW MONEY.
10:36:01AM IF THE CITY DOESN'T STEP IN AND MAKE US WHOLE, THEN WE HAVE
10:36:04AM TO PASS THAT DOWN TO OUR STAFF WITH LAYOFFS, TRIMMED HOURS
10:36:08AM AND OUR CREDITORS.
10:36:09AM NOT OUR FAULT, BUT NOW OUR PROBLEM.
10:36:13AM WITHOUT ANYBODY IN THE CITY VOTING FOR OUR CLAIM AND
10:36:17AM MANAGING THAT RIGHT, THAT IS THE ONLY PATH WE HAVE MOVING
10:36:21AM FORWARD.
10:36:21AM WE HAVE BEEN HERE FIVE YEARS.
10:36:22AM WE LOVE THE CITY.
10:36:23AM WE LOVE THE GROWTH.
10:36:24AM WE ARE NOT ANTIGROWTH ON CONSTRUCTION.
10:36:28AM EXPECTING A SMALL BUSINESS OF OUR SIZE TO HAVE SIX
10:36:32AM MONTHS OF THE ENTIRE ROAD BLOCK WITHOUT FINANCIAL
10:36:34AM ASSISTANCE.
10:36:35AM I KNOW THAT IS MY TIME.
10:36:36AM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AFTER RUNNING THE NUMBERS FOR OUR CLAIM,
10:36:40AM WE HAD TO MAKE SURE IT WAS AIR TIGHT.
10:36:41AM WE ARE FIVE FIGURES DOWN QUARTER FOUR THIS YEAR -- OR LAST
10:36:45AM YEAR THAN WE WERE WHEN WE WERE SHUT DOWN FOR THE PANDEMIC.
10:36:49AM WE ARE LOWER THAN THE COVID 2024 QUARTER.
10:36:53AM THE ONLY WAY THAT OUR FRIENDS AND GUESTS GOT THROUGH THAT IS
10:36:58AM WITH ASSISTANCE.
10:36:58AM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
10:37:00AM I KNOW YOU CAN'T WRITE A CHECK.
10:37:02AM BUT I BELIEVE YOU HAVE OUR INTEREST IN MIND AND YOU ARE OUR
10:37:05AM ALLIES AND NOT OUR ADVERSARIES AND WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT
10:37:11AM IN ADVANCE AND WE NEED FOR TO YOU DO THAT.
10:37:12AM I KNOW WE CAN'T DIALOGUE.
10:37:14AM I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN.
10:37:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LISA, THE PEOPLE WHO WALKED IN PART OF
10:37:19AM THE 11 WAITING DOWNSTAIRS?
10:37:22AM >> THEY ARE.
10:37:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
10:37:25AM STATE YOUR NAME.
10:37:26AM >> MY NAME IS TOM D'GEORGE.
10:37:34AM I AM A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER.
10:37:36AM I OWN CROWBAR IN YBOR CITY.
10:37:39AM I RECOGNIZE CITY COUNCIL'S LIMITED POWER IN THIS SITUATION,
10:37:43AM BUT IT IS HARD TO GET REALTIME AND A SEAT AT THE TABLE WITH
10:37:47AM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
10:37:47AM THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO GET MESSAGE OUT TO TAXPAYERS
10:37:52AM AND VOTERS.
10:37:53AM SMALL BUSINESSES ARE THE CORNERSTONES OF OUR COMMUNITY.
10:37:56AM THEY BUILD UP COMMUNITY, DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION,
10:38:02AM GENTRIFICATION, CORPORATION, AND NO RENT PROTECTION IS
10:38:07AM KILLING OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS
10:38:09AM DONE IRRESPONSIBLY.
10:38:10AM HERE IS A LIST OF OUTRIGHT CLOSURES OR BUSINESSES THAT WERE
10:38:15AM FORCED TO MOVE IN RECENT YEARS.
10:38:16AM NEW WORLD BREWERY, ORPHEUM, ORCHICO, MERMAID, SEVEN SON,
10:38:23AM ROCK BROTHERS, PARKS AND REC, BONE YARD, SMOKE SIGNALS, FLY
10:38:28AM BAR, LONDON HEIGHTS, JET CITY, ELMER'S, SOCIAL HOUSE, DELI,
10:38:34AM THE MILL, MOAT'S FOREST, FUNLAND DRIVE-IN, KING OF THE COOP,
10:38:41AM FLOW FREE, NATALIE PIZZA, COX SEAFOOD, BARTS TO RICHES, CASS
10:38:50AM STREET DELI.
10:38:51AM VERY SOON ZIDECO.
10:38:54AM LET'S NOT LET KING STATE BE THE NEXT.
10:38:56AM I STRONGLY ADDRESS AN EVALUATION OF THE DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC
10:39:01AM OPPORTUNITY WHOSE DEPARTMENT INCLUDES SMALL BUSINESS
10:39:04AM NAVIGATION.
10:39:05AM OUR SMALL BUSINESSES ARE DYING HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:39:09AM THERE IS NOWHERE TO GO TO GET HELP.
10:39:14AM THE WAIT IS ALL ON US.
10:39:17AM KING STATE WHEN THEY WENT IN THERE, THEY HELPED BUILD UP THE
10:39:20AM COMMUNITY AND NOW THEY ARE BEING LEFT OUT TO DRY BECAUSE OF
10:39:23AM IRRESPONSIBLE CITY DECISIONS.
10:39:25AM WE NEED MORE.
10:39:26AM WE NEED BETTER.
10:39:27AM THANK YOU.
10:39:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:39:30AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:39:31AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:39:34AM JASON SOWELL, ONE OF THE CHAPLAINS FROM THE TAMPA POLICE
10:39:39AM DEPARTMENT.
10:39:39AM I STOOD BEFORE YOU MANY TIMES IN THE PAST.
10:39:41AM I JUST WANTED TO BE HERE AND GO ON RECORD IN SUPPORT OF KING
10:39:45AM STATE.
10:39:46AM I HAVE KNOWN TIM AND NATE, THE OWNERS, FOR YEARS.
10:39:49AM I RUN A NONPROFIT HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT MANY PEOPLE
10:39:52AM IN THE CITY, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE INCLUDED HAVE BEEN A PART
10:39:56AM OF, THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN A PART OF, HELPING
10:39:59AM COMMUNITIES ALL ACROSS THE CITY.
10:40:00AM TIM AND NATE ARE NO DIFFERENT.
10:40:03AM SUPPORTER FOR YEARS.
10:40:04AM KING STATE HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR SUPPORTERS FOR MANY YEARS AS
10:40:08AM WELL.
10:40:08AM JUST AS A COMPANY, AS A HAVEN FOR PEOPLE IN THE
10:40:12AM NEIGHBORHOOD, AS FINANCIAL SUPPORTERS, AS VOLUNTEERS WITHIN
10:40:16AM THEIR COMMUNITY.
10:40:17AM I KNOW THERE IS NOT A LOT THAT CITY COUNCIL CAN DO.
10:40:20AM THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT THE MAYOR'S OFFICE CAN DO.
10:40:23AM THIS IS ONE OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT WE SHOULD BE FIGHTING
10:40:26AM FOR IN WHATEVER WAY WE CAN.
10:40:28AM THESE ARE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE NOT JUST
10:40:31AM BYSTANDERS BUT TAKE ACTION IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:40:33AM THEY GET INVOLVED TO DO THE BEST THINGS THEY CAN TO HELP US
10:40:36AM IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:40:38AM I KNOW WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN'T DO.
10:40:41AM BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT OF WHY THEY ARE HERE TODAY AND WHY
10:40:45AM EVERYONE ELSE IS HERE TODAY.
10:40:46AM THE POINT IS, WHAT ARE THE THINGS CAN BE DONE.
10:40:49AM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE CAN DO SOME THINGS.
10:40:51AM CITY COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO PUT PRESSURE ON THE MAYOR'S
10:40:54AM OFFICE TO DO SOME THINGS TO MAKE THIS BETTER, NOT JUST FOR
10:40:58AM THEM BUT EVERY SMALL BUSINESS THAT COMES AFTER THEM TO DEAL
10:41:01AM WITH THE SAME ISSUE.
10:41:03AM ON THEIR BEHALF, I WANTED TO PUT MY NAME ON RECORD IN
10:41:08AM SUPPORT OF THEM AND ASK YOU AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO MAKE
10:41:10AM THIS BETTER FOR THEM AND EVERY BUSINESS THAT COMES AFTER
10:41:12AM THEM THAT MAKES OUR CITY BETTER, AND MAKES OUR CITY NOT JUST
10:41:17AM BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE HERE, BUT ON A NATIONAL SCALE AS WELL,
10:41:20AM THAT PUTS EYES ON OUR CITY FOR GREAT THINGS HAPPENING HERE.
10:41:23AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:41:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:25AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:41:27AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:41:28AM >> HI, FINNIE COOK.
10:41:29AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF KING STATE.
10:41:31AM I KNOW WE HAVE HEARD A LOT OF INFORMATION BUT I MIGHT BE
10:41:34AM ABLE TO ADD A LITTLE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAT I
10:41:37AM THINK WOULD BE USEFUL.
10:41:38AM A LITTLE BACKGROUND, I LIVED IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA ANY WHOLE
10:41:42AM LIFE, A RESIDENT OF TAMPA FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS.
10:41:45AM I EARNED MY MASTER'S DEGREE AND IN ECONOMICS AT THE
10:41:51AM UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA AT THE SCHOOL OF BUSINESS.
10:41:53AM I SERVE ON THE USF ECONOMICS INDUSTRY ADVISORY BOARD.
10:41:58AM I AM AN ECONOMIC CONSULTANT HERE IN TAMPA.
10:42:02AM PART OF MY PRACTICE INVOLVES ANALYZING EXPERTS -- I AM AN
10:42:05AM EXPERT IN ANALYZING FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR SMALL
10:42:08AM BUSINESSES SUCH AS KING STATE.
10:42:09AM MY HUSBAND AND I ARE ALSO INVESTORS IN KING STATE.
10:42:12AM WE CHOSE TO INVEST IN AND SUPPORT KING STATE BECAUSE OF THE
10:42:17AM CULTURE OF THE COMPANY.
10:42:18AM BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTER OF THE OWNERS, NATE AND TIM, THAT WE
10:42:23AM HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS AND BECAUSE WHAT WE THOUGHT THIS GREAT
10:42:27AM PLACE WOULD ADD TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:42:28AM WE MADE THE CHOICE TO INVEST, TO SUPPORT A LOCAL, SMALL
10:42:32AM BUSINESS THAT WOULD ADD SOMETHING OF VALUE TO THE CITY IN AN
10:42:36AM AREA THAT ESPECIALLY NEEDED IT.
10:42:38AM LOCATED ON FLORIBRASKA NEAR THE INTERSTATE WHAT MANY WOULD
10:42:42AM CALL AN UP AND COMING AREA.
10:42:44AM IT IS A COOL, LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD SPOT.
10:42:46AM IT OFFERS QUALITY PRODUCTS AND THEY HAVE DEVELOPED AN ALMOST
10:42:51AM CULT-LIKE CLIENTELE THAT ARE DEVOTED CUSTOMERS.
10:42:55AM LOOKING AT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS THAT I HAVE BEEN
10:42:58AM PROVIDED, THE RESTAURANT HAS EXPERIENCED CONSISTENT GROWTH
10:43:01AM YEAR AFTER YEAR SINCE 2019 IN TERMS OF ITS REVENUES AND
10:43:06AM SALES.
10:43:06AM THAT IS UNTIL THE FOURTH QUARTER OF 2023 WHEN THE
10:43:09AM CONSTRUCTION OF FLORIBRASKA AVENUE CLOSED ALL FOUR LANES TO
10:43:14AM TRAFFIC AND PREVENTED OUR CUSTOMERS TO DRIVING TO KING STATE
10:43:18AM AND GAVE THE APPEARANCE THAT THE RESTAURANT MIGHT BE CLOSED.
10:43:20AM THIS WAS THE WORST FOURTH QUARTER OF REVENUE THAT KING STATE
10:43:24AM HAS SEEN SINCE 2019, EVEN WORSE THAN THE 2020 COVID YEAR.
10:43:28AM THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT SUSTAINABLE.
10:43:30AM THE PURPOSE OF MY BEING HERE TODAY IS SIMPLY TO ASK YOU,
10:43:36AM CITY COUNCIL, TO DO WHATEVER WITHIN YOUR POWER TO HELP
10:43:39AM ALLEVIATE THIS CONSTRUCTION SITUATION TO ALLOW OUR CUSTOMERS
10:43:43AM TO COME BACK TO THE RESTAURANT AND ALLOW THEM TO KNOW THAT
10:43:45AM WE ARE OPEN AND PROVIDE VEHICLE ACCESS TO KING STATE.
10:43:48AM IN MY OPINION, IN ORDER TO CONTINUE TO FOSTER LOCAL
10:43:53AM INVESTMENT IN SMALL BUSINESSES IN TAMPA, WE NEED TO BE ABLE
10:43:55AM TO INSTILL INVESTOR CONFIDENCE THAT SUCH BUSINESSES HAVE THE
10:44:01AM SUPPORT OF THE CITY AND HAVE THE CHANCE OF LONG-TERM
10:44:04AM SUCCESS.
10:44:05AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:44:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:44:07AM YES, SIR.
10:44:08AM NEXT SPEAKER, STATE YOUR NAME.
10:44:10AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:44:12AM JUSTIN RICKE, EAST 26th AVENUE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
10:44:16AM FORMER BOARD PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA HEIGHTS CIVIC
10:44:19AM ASSOCIATION.
10:44:19AM CURRENT BOARD MEMBER OF THE TAMPA RIVERFRONT CAC.
10:44:23AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SUPPORTING THIS BUSINESS.
10:44:27AM I THINK THAT BY SAYING THAT NOTHING CAN BE DONE BY CITY
10:44:32AM COUNCIL ISN'T NECESSARILY TRUE.
10:44:33AM I WOULD URGE CITY COUNCIL TO KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OF THE
10:44:36AM PROCESSES BEHIND WHAT HAPPENS TO A BUSINESS WHEN WE HAVE
10:44:40AM THESE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
10:44:41AM IT REALLY DOES.
10:44:43AM BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN -- IF YOU LIVE IN THE HEIGHTS, YOU SAW
10:44:45AM IT HAPPEN ON CENTRAL WITH -- WHERE IF HEALTH NUT USED TO BE
10:44:52AM IN THAT CORRIDOR.
10:44:54AM IF YOU LIVED IN THE HEIGHTS LIKE I HAVE, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS
10:44:57AM HAVE STRUGGLED FOR SMALL BUSINESSES.
10:44:59AM WHEN WE GET PARTNERS LIKE KING STATE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD
10:45:02AM WILLING TO MAKE A BIG INVESTMENT, TO ME THAT IS A BIG DEAL.
10:45:05AM I WILL FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL FOR THAT EVERY DAY.
10:45:08AM EVERY DAY, RIGHT.
10:45:08AM WE HAVE PEOPLE INVESTING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:45:10AM CRUCIAL TO ME THAT WE KEEP THESE PEOPLE HERE, IF WE CAN,
10:45:14AM RIGHT.
10:45:14AM I URGE YOU TO PLEASE LONG AT THE PROCESS.
10:45:16AM FIND OUT WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE.
10:45:18AM I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER AS A CITY TO SERVE OUR SMALL
10:45:22AM BUSINESSES DURING THESE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
10:45:24AM IT REALLY IS -- IT IS A -- IT IS A HUGE DEAL.
10:45:27AM I DON'T WANT TO LOSE THIS BUSINESS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:45:31AM THEY HAVE BEEN A VITAL COMMUNITY PARTNER.
10:45:33AM THEY HELPED US WITH NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUPS.
10:45:35AM HELPED US SUPPORT THE JUNIOR CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
10:45:38AM THEY GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:45:39AM YOU SEE PEOPLE COME IN, DO THEIR BUSINESS AND LEAVE, THESE
10:45:43AM GUYS HAVE SUPPORTED OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:45:44AM I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THEM BACK.
10:45:46AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:45:46AM HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.
10:45:47AM THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU HAVE BEEN AMAZING.
10:45:50AM I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT.
10:45:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:54AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:45:56AM DO WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE COMING UP TO SPEAK?
10:46:01AM >I THINK YOU HAVE SOME IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAVE NOT GOTTEN
10:46:04AM UP.
10:46:04AM THAT NEED TO GET IN LINE.
10:46:06AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, NATE SIEGAL, 14007 SWANN AVENUE.
10:46:11AM A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER HERE AS WELL SUPPORT OF KING STATE.
10:46:15AM A PARTNER RESTAURANT, WILLA, FAR FROM HERE.
10:46:20AM I WANTED TO KIND OF SHARE THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAD OVER IN
10:46:24AM OUR DEVELOPMENT ALONG ROME AVENUE OF THE CYPRESS STREET
10:46:28AM CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS WHICH IS THE SAME EXACT THING GOING ON
10:46:31AM AT FLORIBRASKA.
10:46:33AM BIG DIFFERENCE WE EXPERIENCED OF OUR ROAD BEING CLOSED OF
10:46:36AM MORE THAN A YEAR WAS AT LEAST CLEAR COMMUNICATION AND
10:46:40AM EXCESSIVELY AGGRESSIVE CONSTRUCTION PLAN FROM THE DEVELOPER
10:46:44AM THAT WAS DOING THE WORK FROM WOODRUFF.
10:46:48AM THEY HAD A CLEAR LINE OF COMMUNICATION THAT WAS REALLY
10:46:51AM CRITICAL FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON AND WHEN IT
10:46:53AM WAS BEING DONE AND WORKERS WERE TWO OR THREE SHIFTS A DAY TO
10:46:57AM GET THINGS DONE.
10:46:58AM BECAUSE THIS WORK WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS
10:47:01AM IT IS OVER ON FLORIBRASKA.
10:47:03AM AND A NUMBER OF OUR NEIGHBORS OVER ON CASS STREET DID CLOSE
10:47:08AM AS WAS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.
10:47:10AM KING STATE NEEDS HELP.
10:47:12AM THEY ARE AN EXAMPLE HOW THIS IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE COMMUNITY
10:47:16AM ALTHOUGH A LOT OF THIS WORK IS IMPORTANT FOR THE
10:47:19AM IMPROVEMENTS OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE ROAR IT SHOULDN'T BE TO
10:47:21AM THE DETRIMENTS TO BUSINESSES THAT HURT THE CITY WITH LOWER
10:47:26AM TAX REVENUE AS WELL.
10:47:27AM ENCOURAGING THE CITY AND MAY I DON'T REMEMBER'S OFFICE TO
10:47:30AM SELECT CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES MORE RESPONSIBLE AND ENGAGED
10:47:33AM TO THEIR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY BUSINESS LEADERS TO MAKE
10:47:37AM THINGS NOT HURT SO MUCH I THINK IS THE SOLUTION HERE.
10:47:40AM THANK YOU.
10:47:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:47:42AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:47:43AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:47:44AM >> HI, MY NAME IS MATT LEVINE.
10:47:51AM I AM A LOCAL JEWISH AMERICAN.
10:47:53AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE GENOCIDE GOING ON AGAINST
10:48:04AM PALESTINE RIGHT NOW.
10:48:05AM WE NEED THE CITY OF TAMPA TO END ITS COMPLICITY WITH ISRAEL.
10:48:08AM ISRAEL IS DOING THIS WITH THE FULL BACKING OF THE UNITED
10:48:12AM STATES.
10:48:12AM THEY BOMBED HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS, UNIVERSITIES.
10:48:15AM THEY BLEW UP EVERY BAKERY IN GAZA.
10:48:19AM 30,000 PEOPLE ARE DEAD.
10:48:22AM JUST AS MANY PEOPLE ARE INJURED.
10:48:24AM PEOPLE ARE MISSING UNDER THE RUBBLE.
10:48:26AM WE NEED THE CITY OF TAMPA TO PASS A RESOLUTION FOR CEASE
10:48:34AM FIRE AND TO END THE ARMY OF ISRAEL.
10:48:37AM WE NEED FOR YOU TO END YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE FLORIDA
10:48:40AM ISRAEL BUSINESS ACCELERATOR.
10:48:42AM WE NEED TO END POLICE CROSS TRAINING WITH THE -- BETWEEN THE
10:48:46AM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE ISRAELI OCCUPATION FORCES.
10:48:50AM WE KNOW THAT THEY -- THROUGH THE DEADLY EXCHANGE, THEY BRING
10:48:55AM THE -- THE -- WHAT THEY TO DO THE PALESTINIANS, THEY BRING
10:49:04AM THAT PACK HOME AND THEY DO IT TO PEOPLE HERE.
10:49:07AM THAT IS ABOUT IT.
10:49:08AM CEASE-FIRE NOW.
10:49:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:49:10AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:49:11AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:49:12AM >> HELLO, COUNCIL.
10:49:15AM MY NAME IS AMELIA RODRIGUEZ.
10:49:18AM I AM A USF STUDENT AND A LIFE-LONG TAMPA BAY RESIDENT.
10:49:23AM I'M HERE TO TELL YOU I THINK IT IS APPREHENSIBLE THAT THE
10:49:28AM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORIZES ARMS DEALS TO THE ISRAEL
10:49:31AM GOVERNMENT BUT THE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD MOST REPRESENT ME AS IT
10:49:34AM A CITIZEN IN TAMPA ARE SILENT ON THE ISSUE.
10:49:36AM SINCE OCTOBER 7, THE CIVILIAN DEATH TOLL IN GAZA HAS MOUNTED
10:49:42AM TO 33,846 INDIVIDUALS.
10:49:45AM I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE ON THAT NUMBER.
10:49:53AM ISRAEL SAID ONLY 160 OF THEIR SOLDIERS WERE LOST IN WAR.
10:49:58AM IF HEARING JUST THOSE NUMBERS DON'T STIR ANY FEELINGS IN
10:50:04AM YOU, MAYBE THE FACT THAT AN ESTIMATED 40% OF THOSE CIVILIAN
10:50:07AM DEATH WERE CHILDREN.
10:50:08AM I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO SHOW ME A CHILD WHO ASKS FOR WAR.
10:50:12AM SHOW ME A CHILD WHO IS THREATENED VIOLENCE, WHO IS VIOLENT,
10:50:18AM WHO DESERVES THEIR HOME TAKEN, THEIR FAMILY TAKEN, OR EVEN
10:50:23AM THEIR LIFE TAKEN.
10:50:24AM IF YOU ARE MORALLY OPPOSED TO THAT, IF YOU FEEL THERE IS NO
10:50:27AM CHILD WHO WOULD DO SUCH A THING, I BEG OF YOU TO PLEASE USE
10:50:31AM YOUR PLATFORM, YOUR POWER, IT YOUR VOICE TO SUPPORT THE
10:50:39AM CEASE-FIRE AND SEND THE GENOCIDE IS GAZA NOW.
10:50:43AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
10:50:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:50:47AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:50:48AM STATE YOUR NAME.
10:50:49AM PLEASE COME UP.
10:50:50AM YES, MA'AM.
10:50:51AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:50:54AM GO AHEAD.
10:50:56AM >> HELLO.
10:50:58AM MY NAME IS SANDRA ZIKRY.
10:51:02AM I WASN'T GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO BE FULLY PREPARE
10:51:07AM TO DISCUSS THE MATTERS FURTHER TODAY; HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE
10:51:10AM TO INFORM THAT I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE CHIEF OF POLICE
10:51:13AM DECEMBER 27, 2023.
10:51:16AM AND I WILL NOT BE TOLERATING ANY TYPE OF FRAUDULENT AND
10:51:21AM CRIMINAL ACTIVITY FROM ANYONE REGARDLESS OF PROFESSIONALISM.
10:51:25AM I WILL BE FORWARDING MY -- MY NOTICE OF INTENT TO THE CITY
10:51:30AM AND VARIOUS GOVERNMENTAL OFFICIALS BECAUSE I HAVE
10:51:33AM PERSISTENTLY ASKED FOR THE TAMPA POLICE AND THE GOVERNMENT
10:51:36AM TO SUSTAIN FROM ANY FURTHER CRIMINAL FRAUDULENT BEHAVIOR.
10:51:40AM THERE IS NO IMMUNITY FOR THIS TYPE OF -- THERE IS NO TYPE OF
10:51:45AM IMMUNITY FOR THIS TYPE OF CONDUCT.
10:51:47AM THE DETAILS WILL FURTHER BE DISCLOSED AT A LATER TIME.
10:51:52AM IF YOU ARE A MINORITY IN TAMPA, PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THE
10:51:56AM MEDICAL AND JUDICIAL SYSTEM PURPOSELY WORK AGAINST YOU.
10:52:00AM THEY ARE PRIMARILY WHITE, CAUCASIAN AND HAS A LOT OF RACIAL
10:52:06AM MOTIVE, ENGAGED IN FREE MASONRY CULT AND THE KKK LAND
10:52:12AM VIOLATE YOUR RIGHTS.
10:52:13AM TERESA GAFFNEY, THE ATTORNEY THAT LOST HER BAR LICENSE FOR
10:52:17AM REPORTING A TAMPA JUDGE'S SEXUAL HARASSMENT IS SPEAKING
10:52:21AM FEDERAL INVESTIGATIONS, AS WE HAVE MUTUAL JUDGES WHO HAVE
10:52:25AM CLEARLY VIOLATED THE LAW ON MANY DIFFERENT CASES.
10:52:29AM AND SHE HAVEN'T COVERED TAMPA JUDGES AND SECOND DCA APPEAL
10:52:34AM JUDGES HAVING EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS AND ENGAGING IN FRAUD.
10:52:39AM A NEWS ARTICLE WAS RELEASED LAST MONTH REFERENCING TO HER
10:52:44AM CASE, WHICH STATES QUOTE, UNQUOTE, STATE REQUESTED TO
10:52:49AM INVESTIGATE TAMPA JUDGES.
10:52:50AM I HAVE SPOKEN WITH HER AND HER ATTORNEYS AND I SUPPORT
10:52:55AM CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST THIS JUDGE, AND THE MANY CORRUPTED
10:53:00AM OFFICIALS WITHIN THE CITY THAT HAVE EITHER TAKEN OR RUINED
10:53:03AM LEAVES.
10:53:04AM IF YOU CAN GET RID OF MARY O'CONNOR FOR A GOLF CART, YOU CAN
10:53:07AM DO THE SAME WHEN THE PRESENT CHIEF AND HIS DEPARTMENT IS
10:53:10AM ENGAGED IN DISCRIMINATION, CONCEALING A MAJOR HATE CRIME AND
10:53:14AM COMMITTED FRAUD AND FEDERAL VIOLATIONS.
10:53:17AM I HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND AMENDMENTS.
10:53:20AM YOU NEED TO TEACH YOUR COPS, YOUR DOCTORS TO KEEP YOUR HANDS
10:53:24AM OFF OF ME.
10:53:25AM NO ONE HAD THE RIGHT TO PUT THEIR HANDS ON ME, THREATEN ME
10:53:29AM AND SUCH OF THE LIKE.
10:53:30AM IF YOU CAN'T DO YOUR JOBS -- IF YOU CAN'T DO YOUR JOBS AND
10:53:34AM KEANE YOUR CITY SAFE, I CAN STEAD OF ENGAGING IN NEONAZI
10:53:39AM PROPAGANDA, I SUGGEST YOU STEP DO YOU KNOW.
10:53:42AM THANK YOU.
10:53:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:53:44AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:53:47AM >> HI, GOOD MORNING.
10:53:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME UP.
10:53:51AM >> RACHEL SANCHEZ.
10:53:54AM HI, I AM A CONSTITUENT FROM TAMPA.
10:53:56AM LIKE I SAID BEFORE, MEXICAN-AMERICAN MOTHER.
10:53:59AM I WANTED TO ASK YOU GUYS, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING TO SUPPORT
10:54:04AM THE MUSLIM ARAB BUSINESSES.
10:54:08AM BECAUSE MONEY WAS PROMISED FOR BUSINESSES AS A SUPPORT.
10:54:12AM WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT TO MUSLIMS AND ARABS
10:54:17AM AS WELL?
10:54:18AM BECAUSE AT THIS MOMENT, I FEEL THAT EVERYTHING IS VERY
10:54:22AM BIASED.
10:54:22AM I KNOW YOU ARE HERE TO REPRESENT EVERYBODY AS A WHOLE.
10:54:25AM WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO EACH MEETING TALKING ABOUT
10:54:29AM THIS.
10:54:29AM AND ASKING FOR YOU GUYS TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WILL
10:54:33AM GIVE US A CEASE-FIRE AND NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
10:54:37AM NO COMMENT.
10:54:38AM NO NOTHING.
10:54:38AM IT WORRIES ME.
10:54:40AM IT REALLY DOES.
10:54:41AM BECAUSE I AM SITTING HERE LIKE, WOW, WE HAVE THESE PEOPLE
10:54:45AM THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OUR VOICE TO REPRESENT US BUT THEY
10:54:50AM DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS.
10:54:51AM WE HAVE PROTESTS.
10:54:52AM WE CALL.
10:54:52AM WE ARE SHOWING UP.
10:54:53AM WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING TO SHOW YOUR SUPPORT TO MUSLIM
10:54:59AM AND ARAB COMMUNITIES AS WELL?
10:55:01AM ALSO, I HEARD THAT THERE IS SOME MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
10:55:04AM STARTED WITH PRAYERS AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THE VICTIMS
10:55:09AM OF ISRAEL.
10:55:10AM AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR ALL THE
10:55:13AM CHILDREN AND EVERYBODY THAT HAVE BEEN KILLED IN GAZA.
10:55:19AM MANY OF YOU GUYS MAY NOT KNOW THAT THE 2023 AND 2024 SCHOOL
10:55:31AM YEAR HAS BEEN CANCELLED BECAUSE MANY OF THE CHILDREN HAVE
10:55:34AM BEEN KILLED.
10:55:36AM THAT SHOULD REALLY SHAKE YOU GUYS TO THE CORE, REALLY.
10:55:41AM AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO TAKE A MOMENT OF
10:55:43AM SILENCE FOR THESE PEOPLE.
10:55:45AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
10:56:06AM AS I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE DONE BY
10:56:09AM ANY OF YOU GUYS.
10:56:09AM NOBODY WILL START A MEETING LIKE THAT, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT
10:56:13AM THERE ARE ALSO VICTIMS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
10:56:15AM MOSTLY CHILDREN AND WOMEN.
10:56:18AM AND THAT YOU GUYS INTEREST HELPING IN SUPPORTING THAT, AND
10:56:22AM AT THE SAME TIME, NEGLECTING YOUR CITIZENS, YOUR MUSLIM AND
10:56:26AM ARAB CITIZENS.
10:56:27AM AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE CONCERNED.
10:56:31AM SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SAY SOMETHING.
10:56:33AM AND I WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT YOUR SILENCE IS SPEAKING
10:56:37AM VOLUMES RIGHT NOW.
10:56:39AM VOLUMES.
10:56:39AM THANK YOU.
10:56:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:42AM MISS LOCKETT, ARE YOU THE LAST SPEAKER?
10:56:48AM ANYBODY ELSE WILL SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP.
10:56:51AM WE HAVE ONE PERSON IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT I AM JUST -- IS
10:56:55AM THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WILL SPEAK AFTER MISS LOCKETT?
10:57:00AM MA'AM, COME UP.
10:57:01AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:57:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, TAZIA STAGG.
10:57:06AM THANK YOU.
10:57:06AM AS I BRIEFLY MENTIONED IN THE HEARING THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT
10:57:13AM IS TARGETING ME.
10:57:14AM THE MANAGER OF CODE ENFORCEMENT MISIDENTIFIED PLANTS AS
10:57:18AM WEEDS AND ORDERED THE DESTRUCTION OF MY FLORIDA NATIVE
10:57:22AM PLANTS.
10:57:22AM I KNOW THE IDENTITY OF EACH PLANT SPECIES GROWING ON MY
10:57:27AM PROPERTY.
10:57:27AM I TRIED TO HAVE CITY STAFF TO ASSIST CODE ENFORCEMENT OF
10:57:31AM CORRECTLY IDENTIFYING PLANTS.
10:57:32AM CODE ENFORCEMENT CONTINUES TO MISIDENTIFY PLANTS AS WEEDS.
10:57:37AM IN A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARING YESTERDAY, WE DEMONSTRATED
10:57:43AM THAT CODE ENFORCEMENT IS VIOLATING AND WILL VOTED TO ABATE
10:57:50AM MY PROPERTY THAT THE CITY AND STATE HAVE A PROTECTED
10:57:53AM INTEREST IN PROTECTING.
10:57:55AM NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT THAT LESS NATIVE VEGETATION IS
10:57:58AM GREATER FOR PROPERTY LIFE THAN A CLEAR CUT PARCEL OF DUST
10:58:02AM THROUGH THE DROUGHT, FOLLOWED BY MUD IN THE RAINY SEASON AND
10:58:05AM UNWANTED TURF GRASS SPECIES THAT REQUIRE MOWING.
10:58:09AM IN A SECOND CASE, MOBILITY STAFF MISAPPLIED THIS REFERENCE
10:58:15AM DOCUMENT STANDARD HIGHLIGHTED THERE.
10:58:22AM THIS IS THE STANDARD OF INTERSECTIONS OF STREET AND DRIVEWAY
10:58:31AM AND APPLIED IT TO THE INTERSECTION OF MY SIDEWALK AND MY
10:58:36AM DRIVEWAY.
10:58:36AM THIS MAY BE THE FIRST TIME THAT THE CITY HAS USED THIS
10:58:39AM INTERPRETATION.
10:58:39AM IF THEY GO ON TO APPLY THIS RULE UNIFORMLY NOT JUST REDUCING
10:58:44AM VEGETATION FOR THE PURPOSE OF EXPOSING THE VIEW OF A
10:58:48AM STALKING VICTIM'S PROPERTY, IT WILL HARM THE AESTHETICS OF
10:58:51AM DOZENS IF NOT HUNDREDS OF PROPERTIES IN THE CITY SUCH AS
10:58:54AM THESE I WILL SHOW YOU ON ADALIA AVENUE ON DAVIS ISLAND.
10:58:59AM IF APPLIED UNIFORMLY, THIS REDUCE BUILD ALLOW HEDGE HEIGHTS
10:59:19AM IN THE ABSENCE OF A SIDEWALK.
10:59:21AM THE CODE AS IT IS WRITTEN ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THERE IS
10:59:32AM SUCH A THING AS -- AS PROTECTED SPECIES.
10:59:35AM IT IS FAIRLY ADEQUATE AS FAR AS HOW IT IS WRITTEN, BUT THERE
10:59:40AM IS SOME CONFUSION IN IT, LIKE BUILT INTO IT, ABOUT NUISANCE
10:59:45AM VEGETATION BECAUSE THIS PART IN PARENTHESES SAYS, NOT
10:59:50AM INCLUDING NUISANCE VEGETATION AND LATER WHAT'S -- WHAT IS
10:59:56AM OUTLAWED IT NUISANCE VEGETATION AND A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.
11:00:00AM BUT IT IS ADEQUATE AS FAR AS WHAT THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH AND
11:00:04AM THEY ARE JUST MISINTERPRETING IT.
11:00:07AM I NEED HELP.
11:00:08AM THANK YOU.
11:00:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:10AM YES, MA'AM.
11:00:11AM NEXT SPEAKER.
11:00:12AM PLEASE STATES YOUR NAME.
11:00:14AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:00:16AM ROBIN LOCKETT, HAPPY NEW YEAR, EVERYBODY.
11:00:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HAPPY NEW YEAR.
11:00:21AM >> I AM GLAD TO BE BACK.
11:00:23AM I WANTED TO COME DOWN TODAY TO BE CONSISTENT IN MY -- WITH
11:00:29AM THIS PROCESS OF THE CURFEW.
11:00:31AM I STILL THINK THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY BEFORE -- I KNOW
11:00:38AM WE HAVE A MEETING -- THERE IS A MEETING SCHEDULED ON THE
11:00:42AM 16th.
11:00:42AM AND THERE IS A SECOND HEARING COMING UP.
11:00:45AM BUT I THINK THAT COUNCIL SHOULD NOT BE WORKING IN SILO WITH
11:00:49AM THIS.
11:00:50AM I THINK THAT THIS AFFORDS US AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE COUNCIL
11:00:54AM HAVE SCHOOL DISTRICT, HAVE COUNTY COMMISSION, HAVE POLICE
11:00:59AM DEPARTMENT, HAVE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND SOME MEMBERS OF
11:01:02AM THE COMMUNITY COME TOGETHER, SIT DOWN, AND JUST WAIT THIS
11:01:07AM OUT, ALONG WITH PARENTS, BECAUSE IT IS A BIGGER PART THAN
11:01:11AM JUST THE COUNTY.
11:01:11AM WE DON'T WANT CONFUSION.
11:01:14AM ORDINANCES CREATED A YEAR AGO.
11:01:16AM ARE WE PUTTING THESE ORDINANCES BACK IN PLEAS AND TRY THIS
11:01:20AM JUST TO BE SAYING WE ARE DOING SOMETHING?
11:01:21AM I DON'T WANT US TO JUST BE SAYING WE ARE DOING SOMETHING.
11:01:24AM THERE IS AN ISSUE.
11:01:26AM THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN GOING ON WAY BEFORE YBOR CITY.
11:01:31AM EAST TAMPA HAS BEEN YELLING ABOUT IT FOR YEARS.
11:01:34AM SO HOW DO WE LOOK AT THIS IN THE HOLISTIC WAY OR JUST
11:01:38AM THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX TO REALLY HAVE PEOPLE AROUND THE
11:01:41AM STABLE TO MESH IS THIS OUT.
11:01:46AM I THINK WE ARE MISSING A DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITY.
11:01:48AM THE IDEA THAT I KEEP HEARING THAT THE POLICE WILL TARGET THE
11:01:51AM KIDS.
11:01:52AM THEN THERE IS TRAINING FOR THE -- FOR THE POLICE.
11:01:56AM HOW DO YOU TRAIN THEM?
11:01:57AM WHAT IS THEIR EXPECTATION OF THEM?
11:01:59AM HOW DO WE TRAIN THE COMMUNITY ON THE NEW ORDINANCE WHEN IT
11:02:03AM IS COMPLETED?
11:02:04AM SO MANY DIFFERENT VARIABLES AROUND THIS THAT WE CAN REALLY
11:02:08AM TAKE PART IN AND MAKE THIS AS GOOD AS WE CAN BECAUSE WE ARE
11:02:12AM NOT GOING TO HANDLE THE REAL ISSUE OF HOW THESE KIDS ARE
11:02:16AM GETTING THESE GUNS.
11:02:16AM WE ARE NOT GOING TO HANDLE THAT.
11:02:18AM LET'S CREATE A BAND-AID TIGHT ENOUGH -- GOING TO BE A
11:02:24AM BANDAID THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM IS NOT GOING TO BE RESOLVED.
11:02:28AM HOW DO WE CREATE A BAND-AID TIGHT ENOUGH TO NOT LET IT
11:02:33AM UNRAVEL AS QUICKLY.
11:02:34AM I THINK JUST THIS -- THIS BASIC ORDINANCE, THAT IS NOT EVEN
11:02:38AM A BAND-AID, THAT IS COUNCIL SITTING SAYING WE DID SOMETHING
11:02:42AM AND NOT EVEN LOOKING FORWARD -- EVEN REMOTELY SOLVING THE
11:02:47AM PROBLEM.
11:02:47AM 30 SECONDS.
11:02:48AM THE HOUSING ISSUE.
11:02:50AM THERE IS A LOT OF CONVERSATION BASED ON AN ARTICLE THAT CAME
11:02:55AM OUT ABOUT THE 10,000 UNITS AND SO FORTH.
11:02:59AM THERE IS -- SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON IT.
11:03:03AM WHAT I LOOK FORWARD TO IS THE $50 MILLION WE GOT INTO THE
11:03:07AM BUDGET, HOW WE REALLY ARE GOING TO EXPAND THAT, AND HOW WE
11:03:12AM ARE GOING TO MOVE IT.
11:03:12AM COUNCIL, STICKING TO WHAT THEY VOTED ON TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
11:03:18AM THANK YOU.
11:03:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:03:20AM YES, MA'AM.
11:03:20AM NEXT SPEAKER.
11:03:23AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:03:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS BENNETT, YOU WILL BE THE LAST
11:03:30AM SPEAKER.
11:03:31AM >> GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS DUE.
11:03:34AM EVERY DAY.
11:03:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MANISCALCO DID YOU SAY YOUR NAME, MA'AM?
11:03:38AM >> YEAH, DID I?
11:03:39AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:03:42AM SOMETIMES I START WITH A TO-DO LIST.
11:03:45AM SOMETIMES I GET TO IT AND SOMETIES I DON'T.
11:03:47AM TODAY I WANT TO TALK OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S GOALS.
11:03:50AM A LOT OF TALK IN THE LAST WEEK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOALS
11:03:53AM FOR THE CITY.
11:03:53AM WE ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE 10% POINT THAT IT WAS QUOTED --
11:03:57AM OF THE 10,000 UNITS QUOTED IN 2019.
11:04:00AM WELL, BACK IN 2019, WE HAD A BRAND-NEW COUNCIL, A BRAND-NEW
11:04:05AM MAYOR, AND I NEVER EVEN BEEN TO CITY COUNCIL AT THAT.
11:04:09AM I TELL FOLKS ALL THE TIME, IT TAKES SIX MONTHS TO LEARN A
11:04:13AM JOB.
11:04:14AM TO EVEN FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING, LET ALONE TAKE
11:04:18AM COMMAND OF IT.
11:04:19AM I WOULD ARGUE THAT WE SHOULD GIVE THE MAYOR SOME GRACE
11:04:22AM IN THAT 10,000 GOAL, BECAUSE HER TEAM HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
11:04:26AM THEY PUT TOGETHER THIS PLAN FOR THE CITY, WHICH WAS NOT DONE
11:04:31AM DURING THE BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION.
11:04:32AM THEY HAD NO PLANS.
11:04:33AM THE MAYOR DIDN'T -- DID A LOT OF GREAT FORECASTING AT THAT
11:04:38AM TIME, BUT SHE WAS RELYING ON HER ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF TO
11:04:43AM CALCULATE THOSE HOUSING NUMBERS SOMEONE WHO WAS NOT A HOUSING
11:04:50AM EXPERT.
11:04:50AM SOMETHING WE HAVE TO MAKE CLEAR.
11:04:52AM 2020, THE MAYOR CREATED A PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
11:04:55AM WE HAD NEVER HAD A PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
11:04:57AM IN 2022, THE MAYOR MADE ONE OF THE MOST UMBRELLA GRANT MOVES
11:05:00AM OF HER ADMINISTRATION, IN MY OPINION, HIRED NICOLE TRAVIS
11:05:05AM WHO IS A HOUSING EXPERT.
11:05:06AM NICOLE TRAVIS HAS PUT TOGETHER AN AMAZING HOUSING TEAM.
11:05:10AM SHE WORKS TIRELESSLY FOR THIS CITY.
11:05:13AM SHE IS NOT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT 10,000-UNIT NUMBER.
11:05:19AM NOW WE HAVE THE RIGHT FOLKS IN THE RIGHT SEAT ON THE BUS,
11:05:23AM BUT WE HAVE A SECONDARY PROBLEM.
11:05:25AM THERE IS NO MONEY!
11:05:27AM MY FRIEND, WHO HAS A VERY SIMILAR POSITION TO NICOLE TRAVIS'
11:05:35AM POSITION, THEY RECEIVED $388 MILLION IN ARPA MONEY IN
11:05:40AM LOUISVILLE.
11:05:41AM THEY PUT $100 MILLION OF IT TOWARD HOUSING.
11:05:45AM I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE NUMBERS.
11:05:47AM AND I THINK THERE IS PROBABLY A 2020 REPORT THAT I DIDN'T
11:05:50AM FIND ASK BECAUSE IT SAYS 220 MILLION DOLLARS.
11:05:57AM WE ONLY ATTRIBUTED $17 MILLION OF THAT MONEY.
11:06:00AM LESS THAN 10% OF THE ARPA MONEY TO THOSE NUMBERS.
11:06:05AM SO -- BUT THE REAL PROBLEM -- THE REAL CROOK OF THE ISSUE
11:06:09AM IS, HERE IS MY PROBLEM WITH THIS, OWL OF ALL THE ARPA MONEY
11:06:14AM WE RECEIVED, THE $220 MILLION, THERE IS $65 MILLION THAT
11:06:20AM WASN'T SPENT.
11:06:22AM WHERE DID IT GO?
11:06:24AM WHERE DID IT GO?
11:06:26AM I AM SURE IT WAS SPENT SOMEWHERE
11:06:28AM WHERE DID IT GO?
11:06:30AM IT DIDN'T GO TO THE PLACES THEY REPORTED IT WENT.
11:06:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:06:34AM >> PLEASE, LET US ASK WHERE THE MONEY WENT.
11:06:36AM I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ALREADY ASKED THAT QUESTION
11:06:39AM ONCE.
11:06:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:06:40AM >> WE HAVE GOT TO MOVE FORWARD.
11:06:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, YOU ARE THE LAST SPEAKER,
11:06:45AM STATE YOUR NAME.
11:06:45AM >> HI, I AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
11:06:48AM I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THAT FDOT PRESENTATION EARLIER.
11:06:51AM I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY INTERESTING AND POSITIVE THE
11:06:53AM IMPROVEMENTS THEY ARE MAKING, THE INCREASED WALKABILITY, THE
11:06:56AM INCREASED BIKABILITY, THE INCREASED TRANSIT.
11:07:01AM AND I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THOSE AREAS THAT THEY
11:07:04AM WERE DISCUSSING ARE THE SAME AREAS THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS
11:07:08AM OF THIS CITY, THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, THE ECONOMIC
11:07:11AM DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, YOU NAME IT, THEY SAY THIS IS WHERE
11:07:14AM THE MOST GROWTH SHOULD OCCUR IN THIS CITY.
11:07:17AM PART OF THE REASONS THEY GIVE IS BECAUSE OF THE EMPLOYMENT
11:07:20AM OPPORTUNITY, THE TRANSIT OPPORTUNITY.
11:07:22AM THIS IS WHERE THE GROWTH SHOULD HAPPEN, YET, THE COMP PLAN
11:07:27AM SAYS THE SAME THING.
11:07:29AM THIS IS WHERE THE GROWTH SHOULD HAPPEN; HOWEVER, ACCORDING
11:07:32AM OUR OWN CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND THE COUNTY, PLANNING
11:07:37AM COMMISSION STAFF, THAT PART OF THE CITY HAD THE LOWEST
11:07:40AM GROWTH IN A TEN-YEAR PERIOD OF TIME.
11:07:42AM WHEN SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE HIGHEST GROWTH.
11:07:46AM GREW BY 1%.
11:07:47AM WE NEED TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO DIRECT THE GROWTH
11:07:51AM WHERE ALL THE EXPERTS SAY IT NEEDS TO BE.
11:07:53AM THINK OF THE OPPORTUNITY -- THE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY IN
11:07:57AM THAT AREA.
11:07:58AM I WANT TO POINT SOMETHING ELSE, AS SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN AN
11:08:03AM EVACUATION ZONE THAT IS ALWAYS BEING EVACUATED.
11:08:07AM THE HOUSING BUILT IN THE CITY, THEY CAN SHELTER IN PLACE.
11:08:10AM WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS.
11:08:13AM WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT KEEPS PEOPLE OFF THE ROADWAYS SO
11:08:17AM THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING MANDATED TO EVACUATE CAN DO SO
11:08:20AM IN A TIMELY, SAFE MANNER.
11:08:22AM IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DIRECT GROWTH TO AREAS WHERE
11:08:26AM THEY CAN SHELTER IN PLACE, NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT
11:08:28AM PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIMITED MEANS, EVACUATION IS A TREMENDOUS
11:08:34AM BURDEN.
11:08:35AM THE COST -- THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO.
11:08:38AM IF THEY HAVE TO GO TO A GOVERNMENT SHELTER.
11:08:44AM IF YOU TALK TO SOMEONE WHOEVER HAS DONE THAT, THEY SAY THEY
11:08:47AM WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER DO IT AGAIN.
11:08:49AM YOU END UP BEING THERE FOR TWO TO THREE DAYS.
11:08:53AM SOMEONE THAT LIVES PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK AND YOU CAN'T GO TO
11:08:58AM WORK FOR TWO TO THREE DAY IS DEVASTATING.
11:09:00AM THE COST OF EVACUATING IS $1400.
11:09:05AM PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD THAT.
11:09:06AM LET'S BUILD IN SAFE AREAS.
11:09:08AM THE OTHER THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE TREE REPORT --
11:09:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SULING, IS THE TIMER ON?
11:09:18AM >> I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE GOT.
11:09:20AM WE HAVE ALL THIS MONEY IN THE TREE FUND AND $1 MILLION AND
11:09:22AM WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO PLANT TREES.
11:09:24AM I THINK THE MAYOR WANTS TO PLANT TREES.
11:09:26AM I THINK SHE SUPPORTS IT.
11:09:27AM I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT.
11:09:30AM I STAND BEFORE YOU WITH A BLOODIED FACE FOR BANGING MY HEAD
11:09:34AM AGAINST THE WALL TRYING TO SAVE THE TREES WE HAVE, THE ONES
11:09:37AM DOING THE WORK.
11:09:38AM ALL THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES WHICH ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT
11:09:42AM WHAT YOU GUYS DEAL WITH, IF THE WEATHER AND THE ENVIRONMENT
11:09:45AM DETERIORATES, ALL THOSE THINGS TAKE A BACK BURNER.
11:09:50AM THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO IS TO PROTECT OUR SESSION
11:09:53AM AGAINST FLOODING, STORMWATER, ALL THE THINGS THAT THE TREES
11:09:57AM WHICH EVERYBODY AGREES ON.
11:09:58AM OUR TREES ARE OUR NUMBER ONE LINE OF DEFENSE.
11:10:01AM WE HAVE TO PROTECT OUR GRAND TREES.
11:10:03AM VRB IS THE PROBLEM.
11:10:05AM THE LAST VRB HEARING, THEY APPROVED -- I WANT TO TALK TO
11:10:10AM MISS HURTAK -- IT IS OVER.
11:10:12AM I THINK I CAN NOW.
11:10:13AM ANYHOW.
11:10:14AM THEY DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THE LEGALITIES OF IT.
11:10:17AM AND IT IS A BIG PROBLEM.
11:10:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:20AM MISS LUCAS, IS NICOLE ROARK STILL ON LINE.
11:10:24AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT AND I WILL AGREE WITH THE
11:10:28AM COMMENT MADE OF NICOLE TRAVIS.
11:10:29AM SHE IS A SUPERSTAR.
11:10:31AM HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.
11:10:32AM NO?
11:10:34AM ALL RIGHT.
11:10:34AM PER THE AGENDA, WE ARE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER 39.
11:10:39AM AND TAKE THAT UP.
11:10:40AM ANYBODY THAT WISHES TO PRESENT THAT.
11:10:41AM YES, MA'AM?
11:10:42AM >> YES, SIR, I DO.
11:10:47AM >>OCEA WYNN: OCEA WYNN, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
11:10:52AM COUNCIL, PRESENT TO YOU THE NOMINATION FOR THE APPOINTMENT
11:10:56AM OF TONY MULKEY WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
11:11:11AM POSITION.
11:11:11AM HE HAS BEEN FOR 11 YEARS TOTAL AND SERVED AS SPECIAL EVENTS.
11:11:23AM WE DID A NATIONAL SEARCH AND CAME BACK WITH OUR CANDIDATE
11:11:27AM INTERNAL.
11:11:27AM AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE TONY SAY A FEW WORDS
11:11:31AM ABOUT HIMSELF AND GIVE YOU THE A OPPORTUNITY TO ASK YOU
11:11:34AM QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
11:11:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:11:36AM YES, MA'AM.
11:11:37AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:11:38AM >> THANK YOU, CHAIR, TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION, CITY
11:11:44AM OF TAMPA.
11:11:44AM I AM JUST VERY PLEASED TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOU WITH THIS
11:11:47AM CONSIDERATION FOR THE APPOINTMENT TO THE PARKS AND
11:11:51AM RECREATION DIRECT.
11:11:51AM I UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS
11:11:55AM DEPARTMENT.
11:11:58AM IT HAS BEEN AWARD WINNING.
11:11:59AM WE HAVE A PHENOMENAL PROFESSIONAL TEAM.
11:12:02AM AND I APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF EVERYONE.
11:12:04AM I CONSIDER THE ROLE, IF APPROVED, TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT
11:12:06AM THEM.
11:12:07AM AND TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AND HELP IMPROVE THE QUALITY
11:12:11AM OF LIFE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
11:12:12AM SO I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT MY BACKGROUND.
11:12:15AM I THINK I HAVE SPOKE WITH MOST OF YOU.
11:12:17AM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO --
11:12:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:20AM SO CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NOMINATION AND/OR APPOINTMENT.
11:12:26AM I AM ALWAYS DISHEARTENED TO HEAR WE DID A NATIONAL SEARCH.
11:12:29AM BECAUSE I SINCERELY BELIEVED THAT THE BEST OF THE BEST IS
11:12:32AM ALREADY WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA THROUGHOUT MANY
11:12:35AM DEPARTMENTS.
11:12:35AM AND I HAD SAY THAT I GOT ELECTED IN 2015, BUT I KNEW OF YOU
11:12:41AM BEFORE.
11:12:41AM A GROUP OF US WANTED TO DO AN EVENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA A
11:12:45AM COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE AND YOU WERE ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE
11:12:48AM WE SPOKE WITH.
11:12:49AM WITH THAT AND WHEN I GOT ELECTED, I ALWAYS SEEN YOU IN A
11:12:53AM VARIETY OF CAPACITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN VARIOUS
11:12:56AM PROJECTS.
11:12:56AM YOU KNOW YOUR STUFF.
11:12:57AM I THINK YOU ARE A GREAT CHOICE.
11:12:59AM AND I AM GOING TO BE VERY ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORTING YOUR
11:13:04AM CONFIRMATION TODAY.
11:13:04AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I SAW YOUR MICROPHONE ON.
11:13:07AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:13:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HURTAK FIRST.
11:13:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO WORRIES.
11:13:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEAUTY BEFORE AGE.
11:13:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
11:13:18AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:13:19AM YOU AND I WORKED TOGETHER FROM YOUR BEGINNING OF THE TIME AS
11:13:22AM INTERIM DIRECTOR.
11:13:23AM AND ANY QUESTION I HAD, YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER.
11:13:25AM IF YOU HAVEN'T, YOU HAVE GOTTEN BACK TO ME INCREDIBLY
11:13:29AM QUICKLY.
11:13:29AM I AM VERY EXCITED OF SOME OF THE IDEAS YOU HAVE AND HOW OPEN
11:13:33AM YOU HAVE BEEN TO SUGGESTIONS AND THOUGHTS.
11:13:35AM AND YOU AND I HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION YESTERDAY OF ALL THE
11:13:38AM FOLKS WHO ARE UNDER YOU IN THE DEPARTMENTS AND HOW -- I HAD
11:13:43AM NO IDEA THERE WERE SEVEN DEPARTMENTS UNDER PARKS AND REC.
11:13:48AM THAT IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT MOVING PARTS.
11:13:50AM I KNOW FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE READ YOUR VITA HOW YOU WORKED IN
11:13:56AM DIFFER COMMUNITIES UNDER PARKS TO LEARN DIFFERENT STRATEGIES
11:13:59AM AND WAYS TO DO THINGS.
11:14:00AM BUT YOU HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR ALMOST TEN YEARS, I BELIEVE.
11:14:03AM I AM VERY EXCITED TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU, IN YOUR NEW
11:14:07AM ROLE.
11:14:07AM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING SOME TOURS WITH PARKS TO LEARN
11:14:11AM MORE ABOUT WHAT YOU ALL DO.
11:14:13AM >> THANK YOU.
11:14:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MIRANDA, VIERA.
11:14:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S, THE
11:14:24AM ALL-AMERICAN CANDIDATE IS UNDER YOUR NOSE.
11:14:27AM WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE WORK ITS WAY UP.
11:14:31AM DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULDN'T GO OUTSIDE THE UNIT; HOWEVER, I
11:14:34AM THINK YOU HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB AND HAVE A GREAT STAFF.
11:14:38AM WHAT I SEE COMING IN YOUR DIVISION THAT PARKS AND RECREATION
11:14:40AM ALONG WITH THE OTHERS THAT ARE UNDER YOURSELF, EACH ONE OF
11:14:44AM THE FASTEST GROWING IN THE CITY.
11:14:46AM THERE HAS BEEN MORE EXPANSIONS IN DIFFERENT AREAS AND TRYING
11:14:49AM TO GET THE KIDS -- WHEN YOU HAVE A KID GOING TO THE PARK AND
11:14:52AM COMING HOME, THAT IS A GREAT EDUCATION.
11:14:54AM THAT IS THE WAY TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, HOW THEY
11:14:58AM ACT AND HOW THEY RELATE TO EACH OTHER AND COMMUNICATION IS
11:15:01AM MAYBE WHAT IS LACKING IN THIS COUNTRY.
11:15:02AM I AM NOT SURE.
11:15:03AM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH YOURSELF AND THE
11:15:09AM INDIVIDUAL, THE CHIEF OUR LEADER IN DISTRICTS 6.
11:15:15AM LIKE YOU, YOUR ASSISTANT CHIEF OF STAFF, MR. BENNETT AND
11:15:20AM THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER TWO YEARS.
11:15:22AM AND I AM NOT HERE TO SAY I WILL SUPPORT YOU ANYWAY YES OR NO
11:15:27AM BECAUSE YOU ARE THE ONE FORWARD US.
11:15:29AM I WOULD LIKE TO GET THIS BEYOND US.
11:15:31AM SOMETHING COSTING MONEY AND NOT GOOD FOR THE KIDS.
11:15:33AM SO I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
11:15:36AM EVERYTHING THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE AND CONGRATULATIONS ON
11:15:40AM YOUR POSSIBLE -- WE HAVEN'T TAKEN A VOTE YET, SO I HAVE TO
11:15:43AM BE CAREFUL WHEN I SAY MY WORDS -- ON YOUR APPOINTMENT TO THE
11:15:47AM HEAD OF THIS GREAT, GREAT CITY DEPARTMENT WITH OTHER -- SIX
11:15:51AM OTHERS UNDER YOU.
11:15:53AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND STAFF BEING
11:15:56AM COMMITTED.
11:15:57AM NO LEADER CAN LEAD UNLESS SOMEONE FOLLOWS.
11:16:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:16:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY
11:16:05AM AND LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING WITH YOU, SIR.
11:16:08AM IN OUR INTERACTIONS YOU HAVE BEEN A GENTLEMAN, AND I CAN TELL
11:16:11AM YOU HAVE THE CONFIDENCE AND SUPPORT OF THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE
11:16:13AM STANDING THERE BEHIND YOU, SO MANY OF WHOM, I KNOW, HAVE
11:16:16AM BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH ON SOME REALLY MEANINGFUL PROJECTS
11:16:19AM THAT MEAN A LOT TO ME, MEAN A LOT TO THEM, AND COME FROM THE
11:16:22AM HEART HE ONE THING I WANT TO EMPHASIZE AND CHALLENGE THAT
11:16:31AM ALL OF OUR PARKS WITH INTELLECTUAL, PHYSICAL DISABILITIES,
11:16:35AM NEUROLOGICAL DISABILITIES, AUTISM.
11:16:38AM I KNOW WE ARE 100% ON THE SAME PAGE.
11:16:41AM WE HONORED LATE PHILLIPS AND THE OWNER OF THE McDONALD'S
11:16:49AM TRAINING CENTER.
11:16:49AM THROUGHOUT FLORIDA AND UNITED STATES, POPULATION OF YOUNG
11:16:53AM AMERICANS, OLDER AMERICANS WHO CAN USE PARK WHO OFTEN ARE
11:16:57AM DENIED ACCESS TO THE PARKS ON THE COUNT OF WHO THEY ARE.
11:17:01AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD OUTRAGE US ALL.
11:17:04AM AND DOES IT COST US MONEY TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE?
11:17:07AM ABSOLUTELY.
11:17:08AM IT IS 100% WORTH IT.
11:17:10AM THE ALL ABILITIES PARK IN NEW TAMPA AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
11:17:15AM IT ALL ABILITIES PARK IN WEST TAMPA AND ONE IN EAST TAMPA
11:17:19AM AND SOUTH TAMPA AND ONE PARK IN EACH PART OF THE CITY OF
11:17:25AM TAMPA THAT IS DEDICATED TO KIDS FOR FULL ACCESSIBILITY AND
11:17:28AM MAKE SURE ALL OF OUR PARKS HAVE AT LEAST ONE BIG PIECE OF
11:17:34AM PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT ACCESSIBLE TO A WHEELCHAIR, ETC.
11:17:38AM A MORAL STATEMENT FOR MOMS AND DADS THAT HAVE STRUGGLES --
11:17:43AM THE LIKES OF WHICH IS IF YOU ARE NOT IN THAT SITUATION, YOU
11:17:45AM CAN'T BEGIN TO IMAGINE.
11:17:46AM I KNOW I AM PREACHING TO THE CHOIR, AND I SEE A LOT OF AMENS.
11:17:50AM LOOK FORWARD FOR WORKING WITH YOU AND FOR YOU.
11:17:55AM AND I THINK YOU WILL DO A GREAT JOB AND YOU ARE A FINE
11:17:57AM GENTLEMAN.
11:17:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:18:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: I ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU AND YOUR HELP AND
11:18:04AM YOUR DEPARTMENT'S HELP.
11:18:05AM I APPRECIATE WORKING WITH MISS WYNN AS WELL,
11:18:10AM ADMINISTRATOR WYNN.
11:18:11AM WE FOUND OUT -- I FOUND OUT ABOUT YOUR APPOINTMENT ON
11:18:14AM FRIDAY, I THINK IT WAS.
11:18:14AM I CONTACTED YOU FRIDAY OR MONDAY MORNING AND YOU QUICKLY
11:18:20AM CHANGED YOUR SCHEDULE AND MET WITH ME.
11:18:21AM WE HAD NOT MET ONE ON ONE BEFORE AND I APPRECIATE THAT LONG
11:18:24AM AND GOOD DISCUSSION.
11:18:25AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SAID IS THAT THE PUBLIC EXPECTS US
11:18:30AM TO FIX THE PARKS.
11:18:32AM AND THE FACT THAT WE FIX A PARK OR DON'T FIX A PARK IS NOT A
11:18:37AM POLITICAL ISSUE.
11:18:38AM IT SHOULD -- WE SHOULD MAKE SURE ADMINISTRATION WILL
11:18:43AM COLLABORATE WITH CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF TO MAKE SURE
11:18:45AM THESE ISSUES ARE NOT POLITICIZED.
11:18:47AM THE PUBLIC EXPECTS THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN GRAND THEIR POINT
11:18:51AM OF VIEW, THEY DON'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL,
11:18:54AM THE ADMINISTRATION, MAYOR'S OFFICE AND STAFF.
11:18:57AM THEY SEE IF THE CITY APPROVED SOMETHING OR NOT.
11:19:00AM I HOPE TO WORK TOGETHER GOING FORWARD TO TRY TO GET THINGS
11:19:04AM DONE.
11:19:04AM I FULLY SUPPORT YOU.
11:19:06AM HE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE IN PARKS.
11:19:08AM SO, I AM ONE THAT BELIEVES IN EDUCATION.
11:19:12AM AND I YOU ARE UNIQUELY QUALIFIED TO GET THIS POSITION.
11:19:15AM I CAN SEE HOW IN A NATIONAL SEARCH YOU WOULD COME UP.
11:19:21AM I ASKED THE QUESTION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY -- I WAS ON THE
11:19:25AM CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND READ THE CHARTER AND I DON'T
11:19:28AM BELIEVE YOUR POSITION HAS TO BE APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL.
11:19:30AM I THINK IT IS AN ADMINISTRATOR DECISION.
11:19:32AM I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY DISAGREES.
11:19:34AM IF THAT IS TRUE, SECTION 6.3, ALL THE PEOPLE ABOVE YOU HAVE
11:19:40AM TO BE APPROVED.
11:19:40AM TO ONE OF THE POINTS IN PUBLIC COMMENT, A DEPUTY
11:19:43AM ADMINISTRATOR UNDER MISS WYNN THAT WAS JUST APPOINTED AND I
11:19:48AM STRONGLY OBJECT TO THAT APPOINTMENT, THE PUBLIC OBJECTS, AND
11:19:51AM I LOOK FORWARD HAVING A ROBUST DISCUSSION OF LONG DISCUSSION
11:19:56AM ABOUT THAT OPINION.
11:19:57AM SOMEONE MENTIONED IN PUBLIC COMMENT OF A HIGH-PROFILE PERSON
11:20:01AM FIRED LAST WEEK AND NO NOTICE TO THE CITY COUNCIL OR TO
11:20:04AM THE PUBLIC WHAT HAPPENED AND WOULD APPRECIATE IF THE
11:20:10AM ADMINISTRATION WORKS IN A TRANSPARENT WAY TO LET US KNOW
11:20:13AM WHAT HAPPENED AND COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC.
11:20:14AM THE PUBLIC EXPECTS NOT TO HAVE -- NOT FOR CHECKING THE BOX
11:20:19AM FOR THE ADMINISTRATION BUT WORK ON GETTING THINGS DOWN IN
11:20:22AM THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY WANT AND NEED SERVICES.
11:20:25AM WE ALL KNOW THAT THE VIOLENT CRIME RATE HAS BEEN GOING UP
11:20:29AM EXPONENTIALLY OVER THE LAST YEAR, AND THE PROGRAMS YOU ALL
11:20:32AM RUN IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS ESSENTIAL OF GETTING THINGS
11:20:34AM DONE.
11:20:34AM I LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING YOU, WORKING WITH YOU, WORKING
11:20:38AM WITH ADMINISTRATION TO FIND OUT HOW TO FIND MORE FUNDING FOR
11:20:41AM THE PROGRAMS YOU DO.
11:20:42AM THANK YOU.
11:20:42AM >> THANK YOU.
11:20:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:20:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. MULKEY, TODAY IS ABOUT YOU.
11:20:50AM LOOKING INTO THAT CRYSTAL BALL, CONGRATULATIONS.
11:20:54AM I HOPE YOU BROUGHT A PRINTING PRESS FOR YOU, BECAUSE WE ARE
11:20:57AM GOING TO BE ASKING YOU TO DO A LOT MORE THAN WE ARE GIVING
11:21:01AM YOU THE MONEY TO ACCOMPLISH.
11:21:02AM YOU ALMOST HAVE AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK.
11:21:05AM ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND LOOKS AT OUR
11:21:08AM PARKS, YOU KNOW THAT THE DEFICIT IS SO GREAT.
11:21:10AM THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF OUR PUBLIC FACILITIES AND OUR PUBLIC
11:21:13AM PARKS AND PUBLIC PROGRAMS IS ALMOST INSURMOUNTABLE WITH THE
11:21:19AM PRESENT FUNDING STREAM.
11:21:21AM AND DURING OUR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS I WAS AN ADVOCATE FOR
11:21:25AM INCREASED MONEY TO BE ABLE TO FINANCE THINGS LIKE THIS.
11:21:28AM WE TALK OF PUBLIC SAFETY, AS MY FELLOW COUNCILMAN JUST
11:21:32AM DISCUSSED, PARKS IS A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF THAT.
11:21:35AM WE TALK OF THE CURFEW, PROGRAMS FOR YOUTH, BEING ABLE TO
11:21:39AM GIVE THEM ALTERNATIVES TO GET THEM OFF THE STREET.
11:21:42AM THIS WILL FALL WITHIN THIS DEPARTMENT.
11:21:44AM HOPEFULLY I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR IDEAS AND HOW TO ACCOMPLISH
11:21:48AM THIS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY SO WE WORK HAND IN HAND WITH
11:21:52AM ORGANIZATIONS LIKE PAL, WHICH I AM A STRONG SUPPORTER OF.
11:21:55AM I LOOK FORWARD TO YOU WORKING WITH THAT AND DOING --
11:21:59AM HONESTLY IN DOING MUCH, MUCH MORE THAN THE MONEY WE GIVE TO
11:22:03AM ACCOMPLISH.
11:22:03AM CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS NEW POSITION.
11:22:06AM IT'S -- THE CITY OF TAMPA IS WELL SERVED.
11:22:09AM AND I -- JUST JOINING A GREAT TEAM OF PUBLIC SERVANTS.
11:22:14AM I AM A BIG FAN OF THE EMPLOYEES OF CITY OF TAMPA AND THEIR
11:22:18AM DEDICATION AND WHAT THEY DO FOR THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA EVERY
11:22:21AM DAY.
11:22:21AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:22:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, MAKE THAT MOTION.
11:22:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MOVE THE NOMINATION OF TONY MULKEY, THE
11:22:29AM DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
11:22:31AM ITEM 39 ON THE AGENDA ON TODAY JANUARY 11, 2024 AT
11:22:35AM APPROXIMATELY 11:22 A.M.
11:22:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GIVE THE ADDRESS?
11:22:40AM I AM KIDDING.
11:22:41AM [LAUGHTER]
11:22:42AM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:22:43AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:22:45AM IF ALL IN FAVOR.
11:22:48AM OPPOSED.
11:22:49AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:22:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. MULKEY, IS THAT YOUR LOVELY WIFE?
11:23:01AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE HER?
11:23:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S HIS GIRLFRIEND.
11:23:05AM [LAUGHTER]
11:23:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AWKWARD.
11:23:08AM NOT ON TV.
11:23:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN'T KEEP A SECRET.
11:23:12AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE DR. LINDSEY BOGUS, MY BETTER
11:23:18AM HALF.
11:23:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE A Ph.d.
11:23:22AM >> I AM A PROFESSOR AT THE DEPARTMENT OF CRIMINOLOGY AT USF.
11:23:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WONDERFUL.
11:23:30AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:23:30AM [APPLAUSE]
11:23:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP.
11:23:37AM WE HAVE THIS WALK-ON ITEM REGARDING COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
11:23:41AM AGREEMENT.
11:23:42AM WHO WISHES TO PRESENT THAT.
11:23:43AM IS THAT YOU, CHIEF BENNETT?
11:23:47AM JUST -- A MOMENT AS THE ROOM CLEARS OUT.
11:23:49AM HE IS GOING TO KICK IT OFF.
11:24:05AM YES, SIR.
11:24:24AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:24:30AM ALSO, GOOD MORNING TO THE PUBLIC.
11:24:32AM THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS A PART OF THE WALK-ON OPPORTUNITY
11:24:38AM QUESTION, AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF COUNCIL IN
11:24:41AM WORKING WITH THE UNION.
11:24:43AM AS THE PUBLIC KNOWS, WE HAVE ALMOST 5,000 EMPLOYEES.
11:24:47AM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BELOW THE RANK OF LIEUTENANT, THE RANK
11:24:52AM OF LIEUTENANT, THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNIT, THE GENERAL
11:24:58AM EMPLOYEES UNION AND THE IAFF LOCAL 754 HAS THREE DIFFERENT
11:25:05AM COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS.
11:25:07AM IN THE -- IN THE AGREEMENTS THAT WERE SETTLED LAST FISCAL
11:25:12AM YEAR FOR THE FOLLOWING THREE YEARS, WHICH CARRY US THROUGH
11:25:15AM SEPTEMBER 30 OF 2025, ALLOW FOR A WAGE REOPENER IF THE
11:25:23AM CONSUMER PRICE INDEX IN MARCH OF THE PROCEEDING YEAR OF THE
11:25:28AM BUDGET IS OVER 5%.
11:25:29AM IT HAPPENED TO BE THAT WAY IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.
11:25:34AM ALL THREE UNIONS REQUESTED TO OPEN WAGE NEGOTIATIONS.
11:25:37AM WE MET WITH ALL THREE UNIONS OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
11:25:40AM THE PBA AND THE HVU SETTLED FOR 4.5% THAT WAS ALREADY PUT
11:25:46AM INTO THE AGREEMENT.
11:25:47AM WE CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH WITH THE FIRE UNION.
11:25:50AM AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER FOR 11 DIFFERENT MEETINGS.
11:25:55AM THE FIRE UNION SETTLED ON THE 4.5% INCREASE; HOWEVER, THEY
11:25:59AM REQUESTED TO OPEN THE CONTRACT IN THE WAGE TABLE TO
11:26:02AM NEGOTIATE THE VERY ENDS OF THE PAY TABLE, MEANING THAT EACH
11:26:05AM PAY GRADE IN THE UNION -- AND I COULD SET UP AN EXAMPLE, IF
11:26:09AM YOU WOULD LIKE, HAS AN END STATE.
11:26:11AM EVERY YEAR, YOU CAN THROUGH MERIT GAIN ANOTHER LEVEL IN THAT
11:26:18AM PAY TABLE AND, OF COURSE, YOU GET PROMOTED.
11:26:20AM WE HAVE A CITY POLICY AND ALSO PUT INTO THE AGREEMENT THAT
11:26:25AM GET A 4% INCREASE AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
11:26:28AM TRANSITION BETWEEN ONE PAY GRADE AND ANOTHER FOR PROMOTION
11:26:31AM DID YIELD THAT 4% INCREASE.
11:26:34AM BETWEEN THOSE TWO ITEMS MAKING SURE THAT THE END AND THE
11:26:37AM SENIOR POSITION WHICH, COINCIDENTALLY IN THAT PAY GRADE
11:26:42AM ALREADY EXISTS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:26:43AM AND WE TREATED THE ATU'S CONTRACT LAST TIME AS WELL TO
11:26:47AM INCREASE THEIR OPPORTUNITIES BASED ON MERIT PERFORMANCE.
11:26:50AM SO FIRE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT DID NOT HAVE THAT END STATE IN
11:26:55AM EACH OF THE PAY GRADES AND WE NEGOTIATED WITH THE UNION.
11:27:01AM WE RECEIVED A TENTATIVE AGREEMENT IN EARLY DECEMBER ON FY
11:27:05AM 24.
11:27:05AM AND ANOTHER ONE FOR FY '25 NEAR THE END OF DECEMBER AND ONCE
11:27:11AM AGAIN AS WE MENTIONED EARLIER THESE VOTES WERE TALLIED AND
11:27:16AM INFORMED OF BOTH VOTES IN WRITING OF JANUARY 5 OF THIS YEAR.
11:27:19AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE CF ASSOCIATION HERE TO TALK ABOUT
11:27:24AM ANY FINANCIAL IMPACT OF FY '24.
11:27:27AM BUT MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WORKING WITH THE UNION, THIS ON
11:27:30AM AVERAGE WILL AFFECT FOUR OUT OF TEN FIRE FIGHTER-PARAMEDICS
11:27:35AM THAT REACHED THE END GRADE.
11:27:37AM FROM ANYBODY'S POINT OF TWO OF 700 FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDICS,
11:27:42AM WE COULD BE TALKING OF 43% OF THEM OR CLOSE TO HALF TO
11:27:48AM REACHED THAT END STATE.
11:27:49AM THE REST OF THEM COULD POTENTIALLY END TO THE END STAGE IN
11:27:56AM THEIR CAREER AND GIVES A 3% INCREASE FOR REACHING THAT
11:27:59AM POSITION AND A SENIOR STATUS FOR WHAT PREVIOUSLY EXISTED.
11:28:02AM THEN, OF COURSE, WE DID THE CLEANUP OF THE PAY TABLES FOR FY
11:28:06AM '24 AND FY '25, TO MAKE SURE IF YOU GET PROMOTED YOU RECEIVE
11:28:13AM THE 3%.
11:28:15AM WE WENT THROUGH AND FOUND GAPS AND DELTAS IN THE PAY TABLE.
11:28:19AM BOTH OF THOSE TWO THINGS WERE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE
11:28:21AM RESOLUTION AND THOSE PAY TABLES TENTATIVELY AGREED ON AND
11:28:24AM THAT IS WHAT YOU WILL BE VOTING ON TO AMEND THE CURRENT
11:28:28AM CONTRACT.
11:28:28AM NOT CREATE A NEW CONTRACT, BUT AMEND THE CURRENT CONTRACT
11:28:32AM THROUGH THE END OF SEPTEMBER 2025 THAT WILL BEGIN FISCAL
11:28:38AM YEAR '26.
11:28:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:28:40AM SO -- I HAD CONCERNS AND I HAD SPOKEN WITH YOU SEVERAL DAYS
11:28:45AM AGO.
11:28:45AM I SPOKE WITH MR. STOCCO SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST WEEK OR
11:28:51AM HOWEVER TIME IT WAS, BECAUSE MY BIGGEST CONCERN WAS, WILL
11:28:54AM THIS BE AN IMPACT -- THE QUESTION WAS ANSWERED ON THE
11:28:57AM BUDGET.
11:28:58AM WOULD WE NEED AN AMENDMENT?
11:29:00AM HERE IN THIS UPCOMING BUDGET THIS SUMMER, COUNCIL, WE ARE
11:29:03AM LOOKING AT A MILLAGE INCREASE BECAUSE YOU APPROVED THIS AND
11:29:07AM THIS AND THIS AND THIS AND YOU APPROVED IT AND YOU CAN'T GO
11:29:10AM BACK ON IT NOW.
11:29:10AM THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED TO ME, YOU SPECIFICALLY, CHIEF
11:29:14AM BENNETT, TOLD ME THE FISCAL IMPACT, THE -- NOT THE IMPACT
11:29:20AM THAT WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING BECAUSE IT IS SO MINOR.
11:29:23AM OUR FIRE FIGHTERS ARE PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS AND THEY ARE NOT
11:29:26AM PAID ENOUGH FOR WHAT THEY DO.
11:29:27AM YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON IT.
11:29:29AM $1 MILLION, $100,000, WHATEVER THEY DO, THE STRESS THEY GO
11:29:34AM THROUGH.
11:29:35AM THE SACRIFICES THEY HAVE TO MAKE.
11:29:37AM PERSONAL LIVES.
11:29:38AM FAMILY LIVES.
11:29:39AM BUT I KNOW THERE WILL BE OTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
11:29:44AM I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT, BECAUSE MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED
11:29:47AM AND MY CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, WERE TAKEN CARE OF IN THE SENSE
11:29:54AM OF THE FUTURE AND COME TO BITE US IN THE FUTURE, NO.
11:29:57AM BECAUSE A SMALL AMOUNT OF COMPARISON TO THE GRAND SCHEME.
11:30:00AM SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS THE OTHER
11:30:03AM DAY.
11:30:04AM THANK YOU MR. STOCCO, WE SPOKE THREE OR FOUR TIMES AND MY
11:30:09AM QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.
11:30:10AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:30:11AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:30:12AM I SAW YOUR MICROPHONE ON FIRST.
11:30:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:30:15AM WE SPOKE YESTERDAY.
11:30:16AM AND I EXPRESSED TO YOU MY CONCERN ABOUT TIMELINESS OF THIS
11:30:20AM AND THE PROCEDURE.
11:30:21AM I AM NOT -- I WASN'T -- I DON'T LIKE IT.
11:30:24AM I -- ALSO, I -- FIRST, I REALLY -- FIRST TIME I GOT THE
11:30:30AM BRIEFING WAS NOT UNTIL YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
11:30:32AM THAT BEING SAID, HE DID ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.
11:30:35AM AND YOU KNOW, I AM SATISFIED WITH THE ANSWERS.
11:30:37AM I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD SET A PRECEDENT OF HOW WE DO
11:30:41AM BUSINESS.
11:30:41AM I DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS AGAIN LIKE THIS.
11:30:43AM I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY THIS IS MINOR, BECAUSE WE HAVE
11:30:49AM GOT YEAR AFTER YEAR IMPLICATIONS.
11:30:51AM BUDGET IMPLICATIONS THAT THIS THING COMPOUNDS ITSELF.
11:30:56AM IT IS -- BUT WE DO HAVE TO COMPENSATE OUR FOLKS JUSTLY AND
11:31:02AM FAIRLY AND EQUABLY.
11:31:04AM AND I THINK THIS BRINGS OUR FIRE FIGHTERS IN LINE WITH WHERE
11:31:08AM THEY PROBABLY SHOULD BE ALONG WITH OTHER WORKERS OF SIMILAR
11:31:12AM TIMES.
11:31:12AM SO IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
11:31:15AM BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED.
11:31:21AM I DON'T CARE OF THE PARTICULAR WAY THIS GOT TO US, BUT IT
11:31:24AM GOT TO US, AND HERE WE ARE TODAY.
11:31:26AM SO WE WILL MAKE THAT DECISION.
11:31:27AM AND -- AND I AM GOING TO SUPPORT -- I AM GOING TO SUPPORT
11:31:31AM THIS.
11:31:31AM I'M GOING TO SUPPORT, OF COURSE, THE FIRE FIGHTERS.
11:31:34AM I THE ADMINISTRATION WORKED WITH THE FIRE FIGHTERS TO REACH
11:31:38AM THIS AGREEMENTS.
11:31:38AM EVERYBODY SHOULD BE APPLAUDED FOR THOSE EFFORTS, THAT THEY
11:31:42AM WORK WELL WITH THE LABOR ORGANIZATION TO REACH A AMICABLE
11:31:47AM AGREEMENT.
11:31:47AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:31:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:31:50AM TOO QUIET.
11:31:50AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:31:51AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:31:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:31:54AM WITH REGARDS TO FOLKS NOT LIKING THE PROCEDURE AND HOW IT
11:31:59AM GOT -- GOT HERE.
11:32:00AM I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD.
11:32:01AM AND THE ALTERNATIVE AND THE REASON I DID THE MEMO BECAUSE
11:32:04AM THE ALTERNATIVE WAS TO WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK WHEN WE HAVE CRA
11:32:07AM AND THEN TAKE IT UP THE WEEK THEREAFTER WHERE MOST WILL BE
11:32:13AM GONE AND UNION LEADERS GONE AT THE CONVENTION AND MR.
11:32:18AM PAYCHECK.
11:32:19AM AN UNIQUE SITUATION ON SOMETHING THAT NONE OF US WANT TO SEE
11:32:23AM HAPPEN THAT FOLKS MISS PART OF THEIR HARD WORK FOR A PAY
11:32:26AM INCREASE IN A PAYCHECK.
11:32:27AM SO I ULTIMATELY BELIEVE IT WILL GET A 6-0 VOTE.
11:32:31AM I AM SURE IF COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WAS HERE, IT WOULD BE A
11:32:34AM 7-0 VOTE BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK OUR FIRE FIGHTERS DO.
11:32:37AM IT IS -- OUR FIRE FIGHTERS LIVE ON AVERAGE TEN YEARS LESS
11:32:41AM THAN THE AVERAGE PERSON BECAUSE OF THE HARD WORK THAT THEY
11:32:44AM DO, THE TREMENDOUS HITS THEY TAKE ON THE JOB.
11:32:48AM AND WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE THINGS THEY DO ON THE JOB
11:32:51AM AND THE UNIT THEY HAVE IN LOCAL 754.
11:32:54AM WE HAVE UNIONS.
11:32:55AM THIS IS A VERY PRO LABOR UNION.
11:32:58AM CITY COUNCIL.
11:32:59AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, HENDERSON, HURTAK WHO HAVE AND ARE
11:33:04AM UNION MEMBERS.
11:33:05AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHY WE NEED UNIONS IN TAMPA AND IN FLORIDA
11:33:09AM AND IN THE UNITED STATES, BECAUSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GIVE ALL
11:33:12AM ON THE JOB.
11:33:12AM ALL THEY WANT IT RESPECT AND DIGNITY AND OUR FIRE FIGHTERS,
11:33:16AM AS WELL AS OUR POLICE OFFICERS, GIVE ALL -- AND OUR ATU
11:33:19AM MEMBERS GIVE ON THE JOB AND THEY WANT RESPECT AND DIGNITY
11:33:24AM AND THEY DO THE TOUGHEST WORK.
11:33:25AM YOU WANT TO SEE THE TOUGH WORK, WHAT TAMPA OFFICERS HAD TO
11:33:29AM DO FOR US IN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
11:33:31AM THAT IS NOT EASY WORK.
11:33:32AM WHY WE ALL SUPPORT THEM HERE ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
11:33:35AM GLAD WE SUPPORT THIS AND GLAD WE ARE ABLE TO SEE THIS HAS IN
11:33:39AM A TIMELY MANNER SO THAT MONEY WILL BE IN PAYCHECKS.
11:33:43AM THANK YOU.
11:33:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND THEN CARLSON.
11:33:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, BECAUSE
11:33:50AM I THINK THE DISCUSSION ABOUT EQUITY AND FAIRNESS IS, TO ME,
11:33:53AM THE CRUX OF THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT NEGOTIATION.
11:33:57AM GIVING THEM THE EXTRA TOP THAT THE POLICE ALREADY HAS, TO
11:34:07AM ME, THAT IS THE FOCUS OF THIS.
11:34:09AM I DO WANT TO ASK MR. ROGERO TO COME UP AND TALK OF THE
11:34:14AM FINANCIAL IMPLICATIONS SPECIFICALLY, BECAUSE I DO NOT
11:34:17AM BELIEVE THE PUBLIC HAD THAT INFORMATION, AND THAT IS WHY I
11:34:20AM WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT THAT IMPLICATION CAN, BUT I
11:34:25AM ALSO WANT TO THANK MR. VIERA FOR BRINGING UP THE IMPORTANT
11:34:28AM WORK THAT THE FIRE FIGHTERS DO EVERY DAY.
11:34:31AM AND I WANT TO SAY THAT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MISSED THE FIRE
11:34:36AM FIGHTERS BALL, THE VIDEO THEY SHOWED OF WHAT THEY DID THIS
11:34:39AM YEAR TO WAS REALLY TREMENDOUS.
11:34:40AM I HOPE THEY PUT THAT UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA THERE FOR OTHERS TO
11:34:44AM SEE, BECAUSE IT WAS QUITE A YEAR.
11:34:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, MR. ROGERO.
11:34:51AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCILMEMBERS,
11:34:56AM DENNIS ROGERO.
11:34:57AM THIS THAT I WILL ADDRESS IS THE 3% ON THE LAST STEP THAT
11:35:01AM EVERYBODY HAS BEEN DISCUSSING.
11:35:02AM WE OPEN FOR FISCAL YEAR '24, THE IMPACT WILL BE JUST
11:35:05AM OVER $1 MILLION.
11:35:07AM $1.1 MILLION -- OR $1.2 MILLION.
11:35:10AM AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE TIMING OF WHEN COUNCIL APPROVES IT
11:35:14AM AND WHEN IT HITS THE PAY SYSTEM, ETC.
11:35:16AM FOR CONTEXT, THAT IS ABOUT 1% OF THE FIRE RESCUE PERSONNEL
11:35:21AM BUDGET.
11:35:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:35:25AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:35:26AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
11:35:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:35:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SUPPORT THE FIRE FIGHTERS 100%.
11:35:34AM PUTTING THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE.
11:35:36AM TWO FIRES IN THE LAST 24 HOURS, AND I KNOW YOU PUT YOURSELVES
11:35:39AM AT RISK AND YOU HAVE HEALTH ISSUES LATER IN LIFE BECAUSE OF
11:35:42AM THE RISK YOU PUT.
11:35:43AM AS I TOLD MANY OF THE FIRE FIGHTERS BEFORE, MY COUSIN OUT
11:35:47AM WEST IS A FIRE FIGHTER, AND HE FIGHTS THE BIG FOREST FIRES
11:35:51AM AND ALSO FIRES IN THE CITY, AND I KNOW HIS WIFE IS TERRIFIED
11:35:54AM EVERY TIME HE GOES OUT.
11:35:55AM SO I AM -- I 100% SUPPORT YOU ALL, AND I WANT TO DO WHAT IS
11:36:00AM FAIR.
11:36:01AM ONE OF THE ISSUE IN THIS IS IF WE DON'T APPROVE IT NOW, THE
11:36:06AM FIRE FIGHTERS COULD MISS TWO OR THREE WEEKS OF THE PAY
11:36:09AM INCREASE AND I AM NOT GOING TO FIGHT AGAINST THAT; HOWEVER,
11:36:11AM AS I SAID THIS MORNING, I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH
11:36:14AM ADMINISTRATION FOR NOT NOTIFYING US IN DECEMBER BEFORE ABOUT
11:36:17AM THIS.
11:36:17AM FOR NOT PUTTING ANY NOTICE OF IT IN THE -- IN THE AGENDA AT
11:36:23AM ALL FOR ASKING US AT LEAST IN ONE OR TWO MEET INFORMATION
11:36:26AM DECEMBER TO PUT IN ON THE AGENDA AT LEAST TENTATIVELY, FOR
11:36:29AM NOT PUTTING ANY REFERENCE TO IT ON THE AGENDA ON FRIDAY, FOR
11:36:32AM NOT GIVING CITY COUNCIL ANY OF THE DOCUMENTATION UNTIL
11:36:36AM YESTERDAY AFTERNOON WHICH IS LESS THAN 24 HOURS BEFORE THE
11:36:39AM VOTE.
11:36:39AM THERE WAS NO TRANSPARENCY WHATSOEVER OFTEN THIS.
11:36:44AM THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT WE NEED TO PASS.
11:36:46AM BUT IF WE SET A PRECEDENT, THEN THE NEXT TIME THERE IS SAN
11:36:51AM ISSUE THAT THE PUBLIC MAY NOT WANT TO PASS, THAT THEY MAY
11:36:54AM WANT TO GET PUBLIC INPUT ON AND THEY WON'T HAVE ANY IDEA.
11:36:57AM SO I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION LATER IN THE MEETING TO TRY
11:37:00AM TO END THIS WALK-ON, EVEN IF IT IS A PROJECT THAT I LIKE, WE
11:37:04AM SHOULDN'T HAVE A WALK-ON.
11:37:05AM THIS ONE I DO LIKE AND I DO SUPPORT.
11:37:08AM THE OTHER THING.
11:37:09AM MR. ROGERO, THE QUESTION IS, AND, AGAIN, I AM SUPPORTED OF
11:37:12AM THIS AND I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS BECAUSE I AM FOR THE FIRE
11:37:14AM FIGHTERS, BUT THE PUBLIC, AS COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID, THE
11:37:18AM PUBLIC HAD NO TRANSPARENCY OF THIS.
11:37:21AM MAYBE IT WAS PUT ON BASE LAST NIGHT, BUT THE PUBLIC HAS NOT
11:37:25AM SEEN ANY OF THE DOCUMENTATION.
11:37:28AM CAN YOU TELL US -- IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, CHIEF BENNETT
11:37:31AM SAID IT WAS $1.4 MILLION.
11:37:33AM MAYBE IT IS $1.1 MILLION.
11:37:35AM ABOUT BUT CAN YOU TELL ME -- A FEW MONTHS AGO GOING THROUGH
11:37:38AM THE BUDGET, WE WERE DEFENSE DESPERATELY LOOKING AT $100,000.
11:37:46AM WHERE IS THIS $1.1 MILLION COMING FROM.
11:37:50AM AND RECURRING THING AND THAT AMOUNT GOING FORWARD.
11:37:53AM MY SECOND QUESTION IS MAYBE TO MR. SHELBY.
11:37:55AM MAYBE A $1.4 MILLION ITEM WOULD BE ON CONSENT, BUT THIS IS
11:37:59AM RECURRING.
11:38:00AM SOME OVER 30 YEARS, IT WILL BE AT LEAST $30 MILLION OR $40
11:38:04AM MILLION.
11:38:04AM WOULD THAT BE ON CONSENT OR A MAJOR ITEM TO VOTE ON
11:38:08AM SEPARATELY.
11:38:09AM MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER THAT AND I WILL GO TO MR. ROGERO TO
11:38:12AM ANSWER WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.
11:38:14AM LIKE CHAIR MANISCALCO, I DON'T WANT -- I DON'T WANT THE
11:38:18AM ADMINISTRATION TO COME BACK TO US IN THE -- IN THE SUMMER
11:38:21AM AND SAY, WELL, YOU HAVE APPROVED ALL THESE THINGS AND NOW WE
11:38:24AM HAVE TO INCREASE TAXES BECAUSE I ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT SUPPORT
11:38:27AM THAT.
11:38:27AM AND THE SAME THING THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT BONDING.
11:38:31AM WE CAN'T BOND OURSELVES TO FUND ALL THE THINGS THAT
11:38:34AM ADMINISTRATION WANTS WITH A DISREGARD TO THE FUTURE OF THE
11:38:39AM CITY.
11:38:39AM MR. SHELBY, COULD YOU JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION ON CONSENT?
11:38:45AM IF WE LOOK AT AN ITEM THAT GOES ON CONSENT OR THE REGULAR
11:38:49AM AGENDA, DO WE COUNT ONE-YEAR IMPACT OR THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT
11:38:53AM OVER CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME?
11:38:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE SHORT ANSWER IS, FOR FY '25, AND
11:39:01AM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. ROGERO, IT WILL BE BAKED INTO
11:39:03AM THE FY '25 PROPOSED BUDGET.
11:39:06AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:39:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WON'T COME TO SHELBY.
11:39:10AM AS PART OF THE REGULAR BUDGET.
11:39:12AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF THAT WAS ON THE AGENDA WOULD IT BE ON
11:39:15AM CONSENT WITH $1.4 MILLION OR CALCULATE OVER 30 TO 40 YEARS
11:39:21AM --
11:39:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WOULDN'T HAVE CALCULATED IT.
11:39:24AM IT WOULD BE ON THE CONSENT DOCKET AS YOUR PREVIOUS CONTRACTS
11:39:29AM HAVE BEEN.
11:39:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. ROGERO, CAN YOU TELL US WHERE THIS
11:39:32AM ADDITIONAL MONEY CAME FROM?
11:39:34AM BECAUSE A FEW MONTHS AGO WE HAD NO ADDITIONAL MONEY FOR
11:39:36AM ANYTHING.
11:39:37AM AND WE WANTED TO SPEND MONEY ON THINGS LIKE THIS.
11:39:40AM WHERE DID THE MONEY COME FROM?
11:39:42AM IF THERE IS A SOURCE OF FUNDING MORE BEYOND THAT 1.4
11:39:47AM MILLION?
11:39:47AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT IS A VERY GOOD QUESTION AND IF I CAN
11:39:50AM SET THE TABLE, I MENTIONED EARLIER THE PERCENTAGE IMPACT OF
11:39:53AM THE FIRE RESCUE BUDGET, 1%.
11:39:55AM FIRE PERSONNEL BUDGET IS JUST OVER $124 MILLION.
11:39:59AM IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, AGAIN, IT WILL IMPACT A MILLION,
11:40:03AM MILLION ONE.
11:40:03AM UP DON'T WANT TO BELITTLE THAT AMOUNT, BUT IT IS EARLY IN
11:40:07AM THE FISCAL YEAR AND THIS IS HOW WE MANAGE THE BUDGET
11:40:09AM THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
11:40:10AM A 1% VARIATION IS WELL WITHIN WHAT WE WOULD FIND ACCEPTABLE.
11:40:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE PREVIOUSLY ASKED DURING THE BUDGETING --
11:40:18AM SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
11:40:19AM WE SAID IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL FUNDING BECAUSE THE ESTIMATES
11:40:22AM ARE BELOW WHAT THE ACTUAL AMOUNT BROUGHT IN, WE WOULD LIKE
11:40:26AM FOR THE PAD ADMINISTRATION TO COME BACK AND TELL US WHAT
11:40:28AM EXCESS FUNDING IS BECAUSE WE WILL BE ON THE FRONT END OF
11:40:32AM DECIDE WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO GO.
11:40:34AM ARE THE ACTUAL REVENUES EXCEED SOMETHING EXPECTATION AND IF
11:40:38AM SO, MORE MONEY BEYOND THIS $1.1 MILLION AVAILABLE FLORIDA
11:40:43AM THE FISCAL YEAR.
11:40:44AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT NOT THAT THERE ARE MORE REVENUES AND
11:40:47AM CLOSING OUT LAST YEAR, THEN WE COME TO COUNCIL FOR THAT.
11:40:50AM AGAIN EARLY IN THE FISCAL YEAR, WITH A BUDGET THIS LARGE --
11:40:54AM THIS SUSPECT JUST SPECIFIC TO FIRE.
11:40:55AM ALL LARGE BUDGETS, ESPECIALLY PERSONNEL BUDGETS.
11:41:00AM SO PLANE VARIABLES HAPPEN OVER THE YEAR WHETHER IT IS
11:41:03AM OVERTIME, TERMINATIONS, RETIREMENTS.
11:41:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAME OUT OF THE FIRE BUDGET.
11:41:08AM WE WERE --
11:41:10AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, YOU SAID IT MORE SIMPLY THAN I,
11:41:14AM YES, THANK YOU.
11:41:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: LAST THING, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE
11:41:17AM OVERALL FIRE BUDGET LAST FISCAL YEAR WAS $800,000
11:41:22AM MILLION BELOW THE ESTIMATES.
11:41:23AM AND THEN THAT MONEY WENT BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND INSTEAD OF
11:41:29AM EQUIPMENT FOR FIRE FIGHTERS.
11:41:30AM THAT'S CORRECT?
11:41:31AM WHO MADE THAT DECISION AND WHY?
11:41:34AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT IS -- LET ME BACK UP AND SET THE TABLE.
11:41:37AM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT BRINGS IN SOME REVENUES, BUT IT IS NOT
11:41:40AM -- IT IS NOT SIGNIFICANT.
11:41:42AM BUT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THEIR REVENUES COME FROM
11:41:46AM THE GENERAL FUND.
11:41:47AM AT THE END OF THE YEAR AS THE BOOKS CLOSE, ANY PARTICULAR
11:41:51AM SURPLUS WILL BE RETURNED BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR
11:41:54AM COUNCIL TO BE ABLE TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH AS PART OF THE
11:41:58AM BUDGET PROCESS.
11:41:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IN THIS DISCUSSION.
11:42:02AM IF THERE IS EXCESS MONEY LEFT OVER ESPECIALLY IN FIRE, WE
11:42:07AM KNOW THE NEEDS.
11:42:08AM THE FIRE FIGHTERS NEED SAFETY EQUIPMENT AND NEED BASIC
11:42:14AM RENOVATIONS FOR REQUIREMENTS IN THEIR FIRE STATIONS.
11:42:17AM AND WE ALSO NEED NEW FIRE STATIONS.
11:42:19AM IF FIRE FIGHTERS NEED BASIC EQUIPMENT TO KEEP THEM SAFE, I
11:42:23AM WOULD SAY THAT WE SHOULD -- CITY COUNCIL SHOULD BE ABLE TO
11:42:26AM HAVE A DISCUSSION WHERE THAT MONEY WOULD GO BEFORE IT IS PUT
11:42:31AM BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE WE HAVE TREMENDOUS NEEDS IN
11:42:34AM OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT.
11:42:35AM AND I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY GREAT THING WE CAN DO THAN TO
11:42:38AM PROTECT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WITH THE PROPER SAFETY
11:42:42AM EQUIPMENT.
11:42:42AM THANK YOU.
11:42:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:42:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:42:47AM I APPRECIATE MR. BENNETT.
11:42:48AM YOU PLEDGED THE ATU.
11:42:50AM AND YOU MENTIONED THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
11:42:53AM AND WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE AT SOME GREAT LEVEL, WE ARE
11:42:56AM WATCHING WHAT -- THE OTHER TWO HAVE RECEIVED, AM I CORRECT
11:42:59AM IN WHICH YOU MENTIONED?
11:43:02AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
11:43:06AM YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:43:07AM WHEN WE FINISHED THE NEGOTIATIONS OF THE WAGE REOPENER AND
11:43:13AM THE THEY REQUESTED TO REOPEN THE TABLE.
11:43:16AM FIRST THING WE DID WAS LOOK AT THE SENIOR POSITIONS IN THE
11:43:20AM POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE OPPORTUNITY GET A INCREASED MERIT
11:43:23AM IN THE ATU ON PARITY OR PAR WITH FIRE IN THAT TOP STEP
11:43:28AM POSITIONS IN EACH OF THOSE PAY GRADES.
11:43:32AM A MANEUVER TOWARD PARITY.
11:43:35AM AND ADMINISTRATION SUPPORTED BY COUNCIL IS WORKING TOWARD
11:43:39AM EQUITY AND PARITY OF THOSE SPACES AND MEETS THAT AT A
11:43:44AM REASONABLE COST LEVEL AS DISCUSSED BY THE CFO.
11:43:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK PAST COUNCILMEMBERS, CATHERINE
11:43:52AM BARJA, SANDY FREEMAN, LEE DUNCAN AND CHARLIE SPICOLA AND
11:43:59AM MYSELF, AN EDITORIAL WHERE IT WAS CALLED THE FIREMEN FIVE.
11:44:03AM NEVER FIREMEN FIVE.
11:44:05AM WE VOTED TO OVERRIDE THE MAYOR AND THE FIRST TIME I EVEN
11:44:09AM RECALL ME OVERRIDING THE MAYOR.
11:44:12AM MAY BE ANOTHER ONE BUT THAT ONE STICKS IN MY MIND.
11:44:15AM NOT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GIVE ANYBODY AN UNJUST WAGE, BUT
11:44:22AM SO WE WOULDN'T LOSE THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAD IN THAT
11:44:25AM DEPARTMENT AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS ALL OVER THE CITY.
11:44:27AM IT HAS GOT BEEN TO THE POINT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE OF
11:44:31AM THE SALARIES HOW THEY ARE TO FIND INDIVIDUALS WHO WANT TO
11:44:36AM SERVE IN ANY POSITION.
11:44:36AM ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT KNOW WHAT THE
11:44:39AM SALARY IS.
11:44:39AM AND THEY KNOW WHEN THEY GET IN.
11:44:42AM AND I DON'T BELIEVE ANY ONE OF US TOOK A JOB JUST BECAUSE OF
11:44:46AM SALARY.
11:44:46AM WE TOOK IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:44:50AM WHATEVER YOU SERVE AT, WHATEVER LOCATION OR MUNICIPALITY TO
11:44:54AM MAKE IT BETTER OR TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER.
11:44:56AM AND IT IS JUST MY OPINION BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T
11:45:02AM MENTION THE OTHER PEOPLE'S NAME.
11:45:03AM SO I -- I AM GOING TO APPROVE THIS IF MY VOTE ANYWAY BECAUSE
11:45:09AM IT BRINGS THE STATUS.
11:45:11AM NOT BEYOND BUT EQUAL TOO OR NOT GREATER THAN THE OTHER TAMPA
11:45:16AM POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION.
11:45:21AM I WANTED PARITY TO ALL IN THE SAME AREA AND WE WANT TO MAKE
11:45:26AM TAMPA WHAT IS HAPPENING SAVER -- -- YOU KNOW THE MORE WE DO
11:45:30AM AND THE MORE PEOPLE SEE, THE MORE HE UNHAPPY I THINK THEY
11:45:35AM ARE.
11:45:35AM I DON'T KNOW WHY.
11:45:37AM THAT BOTHERS ME A LOT.
11:45:39AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:45:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LOOKS LIKE ITS VOTES MAY BE HERE.
11:45:44AM MR. STOCCO, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?
11:45:48AM >> YES.
11:45:48AM GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
11:45:50AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
11:45:54AM I WANTED TO -- NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF TAMPA FIRE
11:45:59AM FIGHTERS.
11:45:59AM I WANT TO SPEAK ON ON THE WALK-ON PORTION OF THE AGENDA.
11:46:04AM I HAVE NOTES BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO MISS ANYTHING TO
11:46:06AM INCLUDE COUNCIL, THE CITY AND THE PUBLIC, WAS THAT THE
11:46:09AM WALK-ON WAS A REQUESTED BASE ON A TIMELINESS MATTER.
11:46:13AM WHEN WE CAME TO THIS AGREEMENT IN THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER,
11:46:16AM RIGHT BEFORE THE HOLIDAYS, FROM A TIMELINESS STANDPOINT, IT
11:46:21AM WAS TO GET IT DONE FOR TODAY.
11:46:25AM WE HELD VOTING OVER THE HOLIDAYS.
11:46:27AM SECRET BALLOT, TABULATING.
11:46:32AM ALL STAFFING AT THE OFFICE OVER THE HOLIDAYS.
11:46:35AM AND WE HAD AN OVERWHELMING SUPPORT FROM OUR MEMBERSHIP WITH
11:46:39AM OVER 500 TOTAL VOTES AND 97% OF THEM BEING "YES" SO THAT IS
11:46:47AM A GOOD REELECTION OF THE PRODUCT THAT WE ARE IN BRIDGING THE
11:46:52AM GAP WITH OTHER UNIONS WITHIN THE CITY.
11:46:54AM SO WE DO MAINTAIN A CLOSE COMMUNICATION WITH THE OTHER
11:46:58AM UNIONS AND THE OTHER PRESIDENTS AND WE DO ALL TRY TO STAY ON
11:47:03AM THE SAME PAGE, BECAUSE WE ARE UNION STRONG.
11:47:06AM BECAUSE OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS AGREED UPON, THESE RAISES
11:47:12AM FOR THE FIRE UNION WOULDN'T BE IN EFFECT UNTIL THE
11:47:15AM MEMBERSHIP AGREED AND ALSO YOU ALL, COUNCIL, AGREED.
11:47:19AM FOR THAT REASON FROM A TIMELINESS STANDPOINT, THAT IS HOW WE
11:47:24AM GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY OR MORE SO LAST WEEK ON FRIDAY.
11:47:28AM AND WHEN WE REPORTED TO THE CITY ON FRIDAY OF OUR RESULTS,
11:47:35AM IT WAS A TIME CRUNCH.
11:47:38AM YOU KNOW FROM THEN, I WAS TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH COUNCIL
11:47:43AM OVER THE WEEKEND.
11:47:45AM AND THE THING THAT THE CITY SAID SINCE DAY ONE OF THESE
11:47:48AM NEGOTIATIONS WAS THAT BOTH CHIEF BENNETT AND CFO ROGERO, IS
11:47:54AM THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO STAND HERE SHOULDER TO SHOULDER IN
11:47:58AM FRONT OF COUNCIL INTO THE PUBLIC AND EXPLAIN OUR REASONING,
11:48:04AM HOW WE GOT TO THIS AGREEMENT.
11:48:05AM AND I CAN'T THANK ANYONE MORE THAN THE TWO HERE BESIDE US,
11:48:12AM AS WELL AS THE MAYOR, AND THE ENTIRE NEGOTIATION TEAM IN
11:48:15AM MANAGING THAT POSSIBLE.
11:48:15AM AND US BEING ABLE TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
11:48:19AM SORRY, I -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS ANYTHING.
11:48:28AM AGAIN WHAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING AND WHAT WE ARE HEARING, IT
11:48:31AM SOUNDS GREAT.
11:48:33AM AND WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
11:48:35AM WE REALLY WANT TO APPRECIATE AND THANK THE MAYOR, THE MAYOR
11:48:42AM JANE CASTOR, CHIEF NEGOTIATOR JOHN BENNETT, THE CFO DENNIS
11:48:47AM ROGERO, AND THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA NEGOTIATING TEAM.
11:48:50AM CHIEF BENNETT HAS ANSWERED MY PHONE CALL EVERY SINGLE TIME
11:48:58AM THAT I HAVE CALLED SINCE I HAVE OPINION IN THIS POSITION FOR
11:49:02AM A LITTLE OVER A YEAR NOW.
11:49:03AM OVER THE WEEKEND, THERE WAS A MEDICAL EMERGENCY WITH THE
11:49:10AM RETIRED TPD OFFICER, WHICH IS JOHN BENNETT'S LIFE-LONG
11:49:16AM FRIEND WHO PASSED AWAY, SO REST IN PEACE TO THAT POLICE
11:49:20AM OFFICER.
11:49:20AM BUT CHIEF JOHN BENNETT STILL COMMUNICATED WITH ME ALL
11:49:25AM WEEKEND.
11:49:27AM AND HOW MANY ATTEMPTS WE CAN TO BEST PRESENT THIS TO COUNCIL
11:49:32AM WITHOUT ANY FEEDBACK, ALTHOUGH HIS FRIEND MAY HAVE SEEN THE
11:49:35AM LAST MOMENTS OF HIS LIFE.
11:49:37AM SO OUR CONDOLENCES TO THAT RETIRED OFFICER, BUT FOR THE
11:49:42AM PUBLIC AND COUNCIL TO UNDERSTAND OR HELP UNDERSTAND THAT
11:49:46AM THIS WAS REALLY A TOUGH WORK IN PROGRESS FOR ALL PARTIES.
11:49:51AM WE WANT TO THANK THE FELLOW UNIONS, THE FELLOW BROTHERS AND
11:49:56AM SISTERS OF THE PDA AND ATU, STEVE SIMON AND BRANDON.
11:50:01AM WE DO COMMUNICATE OFTEN.
11:50:03AM AND WE ARE THANKFUL FOR THE CONNECTION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE
11:50:06AM UNIONS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:50:09AM I PERSONALLY, NICK, WANT TO THANK OUR NEGOTIATIONS TEAM FOR
11:50:13AM THE COUNTLESS MEETINGS THAT WE HAD TO HAVE OVER THE LAST
11:50:16AM FISCAL YEAR DURING TOUGH TIMES, DURING THE GOOD TIMES.
11:50:24AM THE YELLING AND THE SMILING.
11:50:25AM IT WAS -- IT WAS VERY -- IT WAS AN EVENTFUL YEAR THAT WOULD
11:50:31AM BE MIKE BILLICK, OUR VICE PRESIDENT.
11:50:35AM KURT TERRELL, OUR VICE PRESIDENT.
11:50:38AM DONNIE SNIPES.
11:50:39AM OUR NOW SECRETARY, RYAN BURKETT.
11:50:43AM AND OUR EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBER OF LAST YEAR, WALTER HILL.
11:50:46AM WITHOUT THEM WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.
11:50:48AM CITY COUNCIL, YOU ALL HAVE KNOWN US FOR A WHILE.
11:50:52AM YOUR SUPPORT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED.
11:50:55AM THOSE THAT CALL ME, THOSE THAT VISIT THE STATIONS, THOSE
11:50:59AM THAT ARE PRO-UNION AND PRO-FIRE FIGHTERS, WE ARE PAYING
11:51:03AM ATTENTION.
11:51:04AM AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL Y'ALL'S SUPPORT, NOT JUST TODAY
11:51:08AM BUT EVERY DAY.
11:51:09AM THIS IS WHY WE ENDORSE YOU ALL AS ELECTED OFFICIALS.
11:51:14AM FOR THAT MALL TEASE CROSS, FOR THAT REFLECTION OF OUR
11:51:19AM SUPPORT.
11:51:20AM AND FOR THOSE THAT WE HADN'T SUPPORTED IN THE PAST, WE HOPE
11:51:25AM THAT THIS CAN FURTHER OUR RELATIONSHIPS AND CONTINUE THE
11:51:30AM GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WE HAVE WITH OUR ELECTED UNION -- ELECTED
11:51:35AM CITY COUNCIL OFFICIALS.
11:51:36AM SO THANK YOU.
11:51:38AM AS WE WORK ON MAKING UP FOR DECADES OF MISHAPS, WE ARE
11:51:47AM CONFIDENT THAT TODAY'S YOU CAN SUCCESS IN THESE WAGES, AS
11:51:51AM WELL AS THE ITEM BEING BROUGHT FORTH ON FIRE STATION BONDING
11:51:56AM IS CRITICAL TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY.
11:51:59AM TO THOSE WE SERVE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND IN WHICH WE RESPOND
11:52:03AM TO.
11:52:03AM AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE SIGN UP
11:52:09AM FOR THE JOB, NOT FOR WHAT THEY GET PAID.
11:52:13AM THEY LOVE WHAT THEY DO.
11:52:14AM THEY LOVE RUNNING THE CALLS.
11:52:15AM THEY LOVE PROVIDING A SERVICE.
11:52:17AM THEY THRIVE FOR SAVING LIVES.
11:52:19AM AND DRIVING THOSE FIRE TRUCKS AND FIRE AMBULANCES.
11:52:22AM THIS IS JUST A WAY TO SHOW OUR APPRECIATION TO THEM FOR THE
11:52:27AM WORK THAT THEY DO.
11:52:28AM THAT IS IT ALL THAT I HAVE.
11:52:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:52:35AM YOU WANT TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:52:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
11:52:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
11:52:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:52:40AM OPPOSED?
11:52:41AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:52:42AM >> THANK YOU.
11:52:43AM THANK YOU, CHIEF.
11:52:47AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:52:48AM THANK YOU.
11:52:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:52:55AM LET'S DO CONSENT AGENDA.
11:52:58AM WAIT, I AM SORRY, I AM SORRY, ITEM NUMBER 5.
11:53:01AM I AM SORRY ITEM NUMBER 5, THE GASWORX CDD.
11:53:08AM YES, MA'AM.
11:53:10AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:53:13AM FIRST READING TO ESTABLISH THE GASWORX COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
11:53:18AM DISTRICT.
11:53:18AM THIS COMES BEFORE YOU BASED ON A PETITION THAT WAS FILED BY
11:53:22AM INFO MARK ON OF WHAT OF KS YBOR MASTER DEVELOPER LCC, WHICH
11:53:28AM IS THE OWNER OF THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
11:53:29AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS SERVE THE PURPOSE OF
11:53:33AM OPERATING AND MAINTAINING PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE
11:53:39AM BOUNDARY OF THE DISTRICT.
11:53:40AM THIS CDD WILL MANAGE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE PROPERTY
11:53:43AM THAT IS GENERALLY ENCOMPASSED BY NEBRASKA AVENUE TO THE
11:53:47AM WEST, 15th STREET TO THE EAST, THE SELMON EXPRESSWAY TO THE
11:53:51AM SOUTH AND 35th AVENUE TO THE NORTH.
11:53:53AM AN OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE MATRIX ATTACHED TO THE PETITION
11:53:57AM AND ATTACHED TO THE ORDINANCE.
11:53:59AM HOW THE DIVISION OF THE CITY AND THE CDD WHO WILL MAINTAIN
11:54:04AM WHAT.
11:54:04AM THERE IS A TYPO IN THAT MATRIX THAT WILL BE CORRECTED BEFORE
11:54:08AM SECOND READING.
11:54:11AM UNDER STORMWATER, SHOULD SAY ALL PUBLIC STORMWATER.
11:54:14AM NOT ALL PUBLIC SEWER.
11:54:16AM BUT THAT WILL BE CORRECTED BEFORE SECOND READING.
11:54:18AM THE PETITIONER IS NOT HERE TODAY, BUT THEY WILL BE HERE FOR
11:54:21AM THE SECOND READING IF THIS PROGRESSES TO THAT.
11:54:23AM BUT I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OFF THIS.
11:54:26AM THE PETITION TO ESTABLISH THE DISTRICT IS ON FILE WITH THE
11:54:30AM CLERK'S OFFICE IF THEN WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AND WE SUGGEST
11:54:37AM IF YOU SCHEDULE A SECOND READING FOR FEBRUARY 1 AND NOT FOR
11:54:40AM JANUARY 25 BECAUSE OF STORM WATCH TORY NOTICE REQUIREMENTS.
11:54:44AM WE NEED UNTIL FEBRUARY 1.
11:54:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:54:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
11:54:50AM FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE TRANSPARENCY
11:54:54AM AND SUNSHINE DUTIES ARE OF A CDD?
11:54:59AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
11:55:02AM CAN I ANSWER IT AT SECOND READ SOMETHING IN.
11:55:05AM >>BILL CARLSON: SURE.
11:55:05AM THE POINT IS THAT IN THE PAST, THE CITY THROUGH THE CRA AND
11:55:12AM ALSO THE CITY HAS SUBSIDIZED DEVELOPMENT AND THE PUBLIC
11:55:16AM OBJECTED TO THAT.
11:55:17AM AND IN CASE, THERE ARE -- ASKS OF THE IN CRA TO INVEST IN
11:55:24AM INFRASTRUCTURE ONLY NOT TO EMPHASIZE DEVELOPMENT BUT
11:55:26AM INFRASTRUCTURE ONLY.
11:55:27AM AND WE SET UP A NEW MODEL NOW.
11:55:29AM CDDs ARE USED THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND LOTS OF CITIES, AND I
11:55:33AM GUESS WE HAVE LOTS HERE TOO.
11:55:34AM BUT THE IDEA HERE, THERE WILL BE AN INTERMEDIARY WHICH IS
11:55:39AM THE CDD AND IT WOULD -- IT WOULD UPDATE INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:55:44AM AND THEN EVENTUALLY TYPICALLY CDDs.
11:55:48AM AND YOU CAN SAY THIS NEXT TIME, BUT TYPICALLY CDDs ARE
11:55:52AM CONTROLLED BY DEVELOPERS IN ADVANCE TO HANDLE THE PUBLIC
11:55:56AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:55:56AM AND EVENTUALLY THEY ARE TURNED OVER TO -- WHOEVER THE
11:55:59AM EVENTUAL PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE BALLPARK.
11:56:01AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THAT'S CORRECT.
11:56:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE WILL BE
11:56:06AM TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER PARTS OF THE CRA.
11:56:09AM BUT I APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPERS AND THEIR DEVELOPMENTS AND
11:56:13AM THE CITY STAFF WORKING ON THIS NEW MODEL SO IT IS NOT LIKE
11:56:16AM THE OLD GIVEAWAY MODELS OF THE PAST.
11:56:20AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: MORRIS CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OF THE
11:56:24AM SUNSHINE LAW.
11:56:25AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: CDCs ARE SUBJECT TO THE SAME SUNSHINE AND
11:56:32AM PUBLIC RECORDS LAW THAT WE ARE SUBJECT TO, THE CITY TAMPA
11:56:34AM AND OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
11:56:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE POINT IS ANY CRA OR CITY MONEY FLOWS
11:56:39AM THROUGH THAT TO -- TO HANDLE INFRASTRUCTURE, IT IS AN
11:56:42AM ADDITIONAL LAYER OF PUBLIC OVERSIGHT SO THE PUBLIC HAVE
11:56:48AM EYES AND WILL BE CONTROLLED BY THE DEVELOPER AND HAVE FULL
11:56:51AM PUBLIC SCRUTINY.
11:56:54AM AN IMPORTANT WAY TO ADDRESS URBAN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE
11:56:57AM CITY.
11:56:57AM THANK YOU.
11:56:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:57:00AM YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:57:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THIS CDD IS NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ANY
11:57:07AM OTHER CDD?
11:57:09AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: CORRECTED.
11:57:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY REPRESENTING
11:57:13AM THIS SPEAKING TODAY OR JUST YOU MAKING THE PRESENTATION.
11:57:20AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THEY WILL BE COMING TO MAKE THE SECOND
11:57:24AM READING.
11:57:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:57:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE APPROPRIATE PLACE IS GENERAL PUBLIC
11:57:32AM COMMENT.
11:57:32AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: SECOND READING IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
11:57:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 1.
11:57:37AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING.
11:57:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, SIR, NOT AT ALL.
11:57:41AM ITEM NUMBER 5, FILE NUMBER CDD 24-2207, ORDINANCE PRESENTED
11:57:48AM FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
11:57:51AM ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ESTABLISHING THE GASWORX
11:57:54AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 109,
11:57:57AM FLORIDA STATUTES, FOR PROPERTIES GENERALLY ENCOMPASSED BY
11:58:01AM NEBRASKA AVENUE TO THE WEST, 15TH STREET TO THE EAST SELMON
11:58:07AM EXPRESSWAY TO THE SOUTH, 5th TO THE NORTH DESCRIBING THE
11:58:11AM EXTERNAL BOUNDARIES OF THE DISTRICT, DESCRIBING THE
11:58:14AM FUNCTIONS AND POWERS OF THE DISTRICT, DESIGNATED THE MEMBERS
11:58:18AM OF THE DISTRICT BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, PROVIDING FOR
11:58:23AM SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:58:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
11:58:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
11:58:27AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:58:28AM OPPOSED IN.
11:58:30AM >>CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FEBRUARY 1, 2024 AT
11:58:36AM 9:30 A.M.
11:58:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONSENT AGENDA.
11:58:39AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --
11:58:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF ON NUMBER 9.
11:58:44AM I DON'T HAVE THE FORM.
11:58:46AM I WILL BRING IT LATER.
11:58:47AM MY FIRM DOES BUSINESS WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
11:58:50AM AND ALTHOUGH WE DON'T WORK ON ANYTHING RELATED TO THE CITY
11:58:53AM DIRECTLY, IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION AND AVOIDING APPEARANCE
11:58:59AM OF A CONFLICT.
11:59:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, MOVE 6, 7 AND 8.
11:59:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE GOT A REQUEST THAT 8 BE HEARD WITH THE
11:59:07AM BONDING ITEM FOR TAMPA FIRE.
11:59:10AM 78 AS WELL.
11:59:11AM SO IF I MAY, I WILL MOVE FOR 6 AND 7.
11:59:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:59:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:59:18AM AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:59:19AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:59:20AM WHICH NUMBER IS THE FIRE FIGHTER --
11:59:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: 78.
11:59:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO MAKE A NOTE HERE.
11:59:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: I SHOULD HAVE SAID IT AT THE BEGINNING.
11:59:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 9 AS WELL?
11:59:34AM >>LUIS VIERA: THEN -- WE WILL WAIT FOR COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO
11:59:38AM STEP OUT -- I KNOW THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
11:59:40AM NUMBER 9.
11:59:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA ON NUMBER
11:59:44AM 9 AND SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:59:48AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING AND
11:59:52AM HENDERSON ABSENT.
11:59:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, 10-19.
11:59:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 10-19.
11:59:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:59:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:00:01PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:00:03PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:00:03PM A LOT OF GOOD EVENTS COMING UP.
12:00:06PM MLK PARADE.
12:00:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 20-3 AS WELL.
12:00:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:00:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION 20-33.
12:00:14PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:00:16PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:00:17PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
12:00:20PM 34-40.
12:00:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 24-40, MINUS 39.
12:00:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
12:00:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:00:31PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUILDING AND ZONING --
12:00:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I SPEAK TO THAT FOR A SECOND, ITEMS 48
12:00:38PM AND 49, YOU KNOW WE HEARD IT IN PUBLIC COMMENT OF THE
12:00:41PM ALLOCATIONS FOR THE SOLITA'S HOUSE AND THE 225.
12:00:46PM I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON
12:00:48PM THIS, WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY -- WHAT THEY ARE PROVIDING, WHAT
12:00:53PM THE PRODUCTIVITY IS, I KNOW IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS --
12:00:58PM >> I CAN ANSWER --
12:01:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO IS ON THE LINE?
12:01:01PM TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
12:01:02PM TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.
12:01:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME FINISHING MY STATEMENT.
12:01:09PM IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, IT WE TALKED OF SOME OF THE
12:01:12PM SUBSIDIES ASKED FOR AND SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENTS AND COST
12:01:15PM PER UNIT AND WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY GETTING FOR THE TAXPAYERS'
12:01:19PM MONEY.
12:01:19PM I AM GOING TO START LOOK CAN AT THESE ITEMS A LOT WITH A LOT
12:01:22PM MORE SCRUTINY AND I WILL HAVE SOMETHING IN NEW BUSINESS TO
12:01:25PM TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.
12:01:27PM SO -- IF FELLOW COUNCILMEMBERS WANT TO GO WITH CONSENT, I
12:01:33PM WILL --
12:01:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU WANT TO CONTINUE IT.
12:01:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS TRAVIS CAN POSSIBLY ANSWER.
12:01:41PM MISS TRAVIS?
12:01:43PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
12:01:45PM CAN YOU SEE ME?
12:01:47PM MY CAMERA IS ON.
12:01:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CCTV WILL BE BRING THIS UP IN A SECOND.
12:01:52PM THERE YOU GO.
12:01:53PM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
12:01:54PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
12:01:55PM NICOLE TRAVIS, ADMINISTRATOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
12:01:59PM OPPORTUNITY.
12:02:00PM THERE WAS A COMMENT IN PUBLIC COMMENT THIS MORNING.
12:02:02PM I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS REFERRING TO STAFF TO GET ACCURATE
12:02:06PM INFORMATION.
12:02:07PM THE SOLITA'S HOUSE, THE REASON THIS IS ON COUNCIL'S AGENDA,
12:02:12PM COUNCIL APPROVED OUR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AND HOUSING PLAN
12:02:15PM THAT SHOW HOW WE FUND ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS.
12:02:17PM WE APPROVED THAT ANNUAL ACTION PLAN ALREADY.
12:02:20PM IN THAT PLAN, IT STATES THAT SOLITA'S HOUSE WILL BE FUNDED
12:02:25PM FOR THREE YEARS.
12:02:25PM WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS CONTRACT IS JUST EXTENDING THAT
12:02:28PM AGREEMENT FOR ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR SO IT ALLIANCE WITH THE
12:02:32PM ANNUAL ACTION PLAN THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY APPROVED.
12:02:35PM ALSO, THERE WAS INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED THROUGH PUBLIC
12:02:39PM COMMENT AND NOT PROVIDED TO YOU BY STAFF.
12:02:42PM AND THE SOLITA'S HOUSE WITH CITY OF TAMPA FUNDING IN 2021
12:02:49PM CLOSED ON 24 HOMES.
12:02:51PM IN 2022, THEY CLOSE ON 14 HOMES.
12:02:53PM IN 2023, THEY CLOSED ON ANOTHER 14 HOMES.
12:02:57PM AND IN 2024, OUR CURRENT YEAR, THEY HAVE ALREADY CLOSED ON
12:03:01PM TWO YEARS.
12:03:03PM SO THEY -- ON OVER 54 -- 54 HOUSES JUST WITH CITY FUNDING.
12:03:10PM SOLITA'S HOUSE RECEIVE FUNDING.
12:03:14PM I APPRECIATE YOU NOT HAVING KNEE-JERK REACTION FROM PUBLIC
12:03:18PM COMMENT.
12:03:19PM AND ALLOWING STAFF TO GIVE YOU FACTS.
12:03:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU SAY CLOSED, COUNSELING SERVICES TO THE
12:03:26PM --
12:03:26PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, YES.
12:03:27PM COUNSELING SERVICES TO -- SO WHEN YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE
12:03:31PM HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE GETTING CITY FUNDING, WE REQUIRE THEM TO
12:03:33PM GO THROUGH HOUSING COUNSELING.
12:03:36PM AND THOSE SERVICES WERE PROVIDED AND THOSE HOMES WERE
12:03:39PM ULTIMATELY CLOSED ON.
12:03:40PM WE HAVE NEW HOMEOWNERS, IF YOU WILL, 54 HOUSES WERE PROVIDED
12:03:49PM THROUGH SOLITA'S HOUSE COUNSELING SERVICES.
12:03:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW ABOUT ITEM 48 REACH.
12:04:02PM NICK THIS ONE IS ANOTHER ALIGNMENT.
12:04:08PM IF YOU ALLOW ME -- IF YOU TAKE THIS OFF -- I AM COMING TO
12:04:12PM YOU FOR ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATES.
12:04:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SORRY TO AMBUSH YOU LIKE THAT.
12:04:16PM BECAUSE IT WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:04:19PM I WILL BRING SOMETHING UP IN NEW BUSINESS THAT I THINK WILL
12:04:23PM ASK FOR AN ACCOUNTING OF A LOT OF THESE ITEMS.
12:04:25PM I'M LOST OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE ARE SPENDING ON THESE
12:04:28PM ITEMS AND WHAT WE ARE GETTING FOR THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
12:04:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO HOLD THESE ITEMS UNTIL SHE
12:04:36PM COMES UP WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
12:04:38PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MAY I ADD -- WHEN YOU SAY YOU ARE LOST IN
12:04:42PM ALL THE FUNDING THAT SOMETHING ABOUT USE PREPONDERANCE OF
12:04:44PM THE EVIDENCE A LOT IS CDBG FUNDS AND UNDER A QUARTERLY
12:04:49PM BASIS.
12:04:49PM I AM COMING TO YOU WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE TO SET
12:04:52PM THAT QUARTERLY UPDATE.
12:04:54PM THERE IS A REPORTING ON THIS.
12:04:55PM AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU OF WHAT OTHER ADDITIONAL
12:04:58PM REPORTING YOU WOULD LIKE.
12:04:59PM IF WOULD YOU JUST NOT VOTE ON THIS RIGHT NOW AND AT
12:05:05PM ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE I WILL PROVIDE YOU THE UPDATE.
12:05:07PM I DON'T WANT TO MISSPEAK.
12:05:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
12:05:11PM THANK YOU, MISS TRAVIS.
12:05:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL HOLD 48 AND 49 UNTIL SHE COMES
12:05:16PM BACK.
12:05:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 41-47.
12:05:23PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
12:05:27PM MIRANDA.
12:05:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEMS 50-54.
12:05:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:05:32PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:05:34PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:05:35PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:05:36PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO SET --
12:05:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE FOR PETITION FOR THE REVIEW HEARING
12:05:41PM MARCH 7 -- I MEAN 2024 MARCH 7, 56 ON A MARCH 7, 2024 AT 10
12:05:54PM A.M. ALSO.
12:05:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:05:59PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
12:06:00PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:06:02PM IT IS 12:06.
12:06:04PM WOULD YOU LIKE BREAK FOR LUNCH OR DO SECOND READING?
12:06:13PM OKAY.
12:06:13PM WE ARE GOING TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AND COME BACK AT 1:15.
12:06:16PM THAT SUFFICIENT?
12:06:18PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ON WHAT DAY?
12:06:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TODAY.
12:06:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I GOT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE EVERYTHING
12:06:22PM IS BY THE HOUR.
12:06:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:15.
12:06:25PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
01:21:40PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
01:21:43PM WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
01:21:44PM ROLL CALL PLEASE.
01:21:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:21:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:21:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
01:21:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:21:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:21:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:21:52PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:21:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF REQUESTS HERE.
01:21:57PM ITEM NUMBER 83 TO CONTINUE TO FEBRUARY 15 UNDER STAFF
01:22:02PM REPORT.
01:22:02PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION.
01:22:03PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
01:22:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
01:22:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:22:08PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON REQUESTED THAT ITEM 85 --
01:22:14PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW ABOUT APRIL 4.
01:22:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONTINUE 85 TO APRIL 24.
01:22:19PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:22:21PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:22:22PM AND ITEM NUMBER 86, A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO
01:22:25PM FEBRUARY 15.
01:22:26PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:22:28PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:22:30PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:22:31PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
01:22:36PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:22:38PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:22:40PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:22:41PM OPPOSED?
01:22:42PM OKAY.
01:22:42PM >> COUNCIL, I HAVE A REQUEST.
01:22:46PM YOU SET A HEARING NUMBER 55 FOR MARCH 7.
01:22:48PM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT BE MOVED TO A DIFFERENT DATE IN
01:22:52PM MARCH, LATER, PLEASE.
01:22:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE NEXT DATE, MADAM --
01:22:57PM >>CLERK: 28th.
01:22:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
01:23:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
01:23:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO MODIFY ITEM NUMBER 55 TO NOT
01:23:05PM BE HEARD OR SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 7, 2024 AT 10 A.M.
01:23:08PM INSTEAD -- WHAT DATE DID YOU SAY?
01:23:11PM >>CLERK: MARCH 28.
01:23:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 28, 2024 AT 10 A.M. AT 315 EAST
01:23:20PM KENNEDY BOULEVARDS.
01:23:20PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:23:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA --
01:23:24PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND SECONDED AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON
01:23:32PM MIRANDA.
01:23:33PM ITEM 257.
01:23:36PM >>MICHELLE VAN LOAN: MICHELLE VAN LOAN.
01:23:39PM THE SECOND READING WITH MR. JIM URBANSKI, THE CORNER OF
01:23:45PM SOUTH PARKER AT GRAND CENTRAL AVENUE.
01:23:50PM WE REPORTED ON THIS PREVIOUSLY, AND IF WE CAN GO OVER MANY
01:23:56PM CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY.
01:23:56PM AS PART OF THIS ORDINANCE FOR MR. URBANSKI.
01:24:01PM AFTER WE MENTIONED BEFORE A DOG PARK NAMED AFTER
01:24:08PM MR. URBANSKI AT AL LOPEZ PARK.
01:24:10PM YOU HAVE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER BY THE MAYOR ALSO SUPPORT THIS
01:24:15PM HONORARY NAMING.
01:24:16PM I WANT TO INTRODUCE MR. MARK URBANSKI.
01:24:20PM MR. URBANSKI'S SON.
01:24:24PM THEY WANT TO EXPRESS THEIR THANK YOU.
01:24:26PM AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I AM AVAILABLE.
01:24:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:24:31PM COME ON UP.
01:24:32PM >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
01:24:33PM THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
01:24:36PM I PROPERTY WITH ME DC GOUTOUFAS, WHICH ALL OF YOU MAY KNOW,
01:24:42PM AND MY BROTHER-IN-LAW, STEVEN SMITH WHO MARRIED MY SISTER IN
01:24:46PM 1980 AND WAS LIKE A SON TO MY DAD.
01:24:49PM HE LOVED IT AS MUCH AS WE LOVED ME.
01:24:51PM MAYBE MORE.
01:24:53PM BUT ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU
01:24:59PM ALL.
01:24:59PM AND ALSO THIS ALL STARTED WITH A HAND-WRITTEN LETTER FROM
01:25:03PM MAYOR CASTOR TO MY MOTHER UPON THE PASSING OF MY FATHER IN
01:25:08PM 2021.
01:25:09PM AND THIS WHOLE PROJECT -- THIS FINE MAN HAS HANDLED
01:25:15PM EVERYTHING FROM START TO FINISH.
01:25:17PM AND HE HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB.
01:25:20PM AND I JUST WANT -- AND OCEA WYNN, TOO, WENT TO DC PRIOR TO
01:25:25PM COMING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
01:25:27PM SO ANYWAY, I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE FAMILY
01:25:32PM AND, DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
01:25:38PM >> I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL.
01:25:43PM >> AND THEN MY BROTHER-IN-LAW.
01:25:45PM >> REAL QUICKLY, I WANT TO SAY THAT JIM WAS A MODEST AND
01:25:50PM HUMBLE MAN.
01:25:51PM HE LOVED THE TRIBUNE.
01:25:52PM HE LOVED THIS CITY.
01:25:53PM AND HE DIDN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, CHASE AFTER ACCOLADES, BUT
01:25:58PM WE THINK HE IS LOOKING DOWN WITH BIG TOOTHY GRIN GETTING A
01:26:01PM CHUCKLE OUT OF THIS AND HE WILL BE VERY PROUD.
01:26:04PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:26:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING
01:26:08PM AND MR. GOUTOUFAS FOR 13, 14 YEARS.
01:26:12PM I KNOW YOU GO BACK TO HIGH SCHOOL DAYS, DON'T YOU?
01:26:15PM >> YES.
01:26:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE TOLD ME THE STORY -- A LOT OF THINGS
01:26:18PM ABOUT YOUR DAD.
01:26:19PM IF IT WASN'T FOR YOUR FATHER, THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS WOULD
01:26:23PM PROBABLY NEVER HAVE COME HERE.
01:26:24PM IS THAT CORRECT?
01:26:25PM >> WELL, IT WASN'T A ONE-MAN JOB, BUT GEORGE AND
01:26:30PM LEONARD LEVY, WALTZER BALDWIN, DAD, JOE, AND TOM McEWEN WAS
01:26:37PM MEETING WITH REZEL BACK IN THE DAY WHEN HE WAS NFL
01:26:42PM COMMISSIONER AND HE STARTED IT WHEN I WAS FIVE YEARS OLD
01:26:45PM LIKE IN 1970, HE WOULD ATTEND ALL THE SUPER BOWLS AND PITCH
01:26:49PM THE TEAM OWNERS AT THE TIME AND REZEL ON AN EXPANSION AND
01:26:55PM THEY WOULD GO TO NEW YORK DURING THE SUMMER AT THAT LEAGUE
01:26:58PM HEADQUARTERS AND PITCH AGAIN.
01:27:01PM IN '74, THEY GOT THE NOD WITH SEATTLE AND '76 WAS THE FIRST
01:27:06PM SEASON.
01:27:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
01:27:08PM >> THE OUTBACK BOWL AND SUPER BOWLS TOO.
01:27:10PM SO --
01:27:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY COOL.
01:27:13PM SO ANY OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS?
01:27:16PM ANY -- YES.
01:27:16PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST QUICKLY.
01:27:18PM I THINK MAYBE I MET YOUR DAD, BUT I TONIGHT -- IT IS SO LONG
01:27:23PM AGO I DON'T REMEMBER.
01:27:24PM I REMEMBER HIS LEGACY AND WHAT HE DID.
01:27:26PM THANK YOU.
01:27:26PM I AM GLAD WE ARE ABLE TO REMEMBER THE TRIBUNE TOO.
01:27:29PM SUCH A GREAT RESOURCE.
01:27:30PM WE ALL GREW UP READING IT.
01:27:32PM AND TAMPA BAY TIMES DOES A GREAT JOB TOO.
01:27:36PM BUT GREAT -- THE BRAND WAS FANTASTIC HOW WE ALL LOOKED
01:27:40PM FORWARD TO IT.
01:27:41PM THANK YOU SO MUCH, DC FOR YOUR GREAT WORK.
01:27:44PM HE HAS BEEN CHASING THIS LIKE YOU SAID FOR TWO YEARS AND
01:27:47PM WORKING REALLY, REALLY HARD TO MANGE SURE IT WENT THROUGH.
01:27:49PM IT SHOWS THAT CITIZEN INITIATIVES CAN MOVE FORWARD.
01:27:52PM THANK YOU.
01:27:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
01:27:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST WHAT COUNCIL CARLSON SAID.
01:27:59PM SO GLAD THIS IS GOING FORWARD NOT JUST FOR YOUR FATHER BUT
01:28:03PM FOR THE MEMORY OF THE TAMPA TRIBUNE.
01:28:05PM I GREW UP READING THE TAMPA TRIBUNE.
01:28:09PM I REMEMBER JOE GUIDRY A GREAT GUY, JOE BROWN, I READ HIS
01:28:15PM COLUMNS.
01:28:16PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAD A VERY INTERESTING RELATIONSHIP WITH
01:28:19PM HIM.
01:28:19PM BUT, YEAH, THIS TOUCHES ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES AND A
01:28:23PM LOT OF DIFFERENT CORDS.
01:28:24PM SO JUST -- AND, AGAIN, TO DC, OUR GOOD FRIEND, A GREAT GUY,
01:28:30PM A REMARKABLE GUY THANK YOU FOR YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE FOR
01:28:33PM PUSHING THIS FORWARD.
01:28:34PM THANK YOU, GUYS.
01:28:35PM GOD BLESS YOU.
01:28:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU DC FOR STAYING WITH IT AND
01:28:41PM DOING WHAT HE IS RIGHT.
01:28:43PM I KNEW HIM FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
01:28:44PM TOO MANY YEARS.
01:28:46PM IF I SAY HOW MANY.
01:28:47PM THANK YOU, DC, YOU ARE A WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL.
01:28:50PM YOUR FATHER WAS GREAT MAN.
01:28:52PM HE WAS VERY, VERY ASTUTE, VERY NICE, VERY POLITE.
01:28:56PM HE NEVER LOOKED FOR AN ARGUMENT, BUT HE KNEW HOW TO HANDLE
01:28:59PM THEM.
01:28:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:29:03PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
01:29:06PM 57?
01:29:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
01:29:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:29:13PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:29:14PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:29:15PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU ARE UP TO READ 57.
01:29:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE ORDINANCE FOR CITY OF TAMPA APPROVING THE
01:29:29PM PLACEMENT OF AN HONORARY STREET NAMING SIGN ON THE SOUTHWEST
01:29:33PM CORNER OF SOUTH PARKER STREET AND GRAND CENTRAL AVENUE TO
01:29:36PM HONOR JAMES F. URBANSKI FOR PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
01:29:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:29:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:29:45PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
01:29:48PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HENDERSON BEING
01:29:52PM ABSENT.
01:29:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
01:29:54PM ITEM NUMBER 58, SECOND READING.
01:29:57PM EYE SEE, YES, MA'AM.
01:29:59PM >> MY NAME IS MEGAN BRENOLTZ AND THE NEWEST ADDITION TO THE
01:30:06PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND SECOND READING OF A PROPOSED ORDINANCE
01:30:10PM THAT IS DESIGNED TO CORRECT THE CITY'S ETHICS CODE TO COME
01:30:15PM IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY CHARTER, STATE STATUTE AND THE
01:30:19PM FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
01:30:20PM IN DOING SO, WE AMENDED THREE SECTIONS OF THE CODE.
01:30:23PM FIRST, SECTION 2-541-A IS REVISED TO BE CONSISTENT IS 8.07
01:30:32PM OF THE CITY CHARTER.
01:30:33PM ENSURE THAT EMPLOYEES ARE PROHIBITED FROM RECEIVING A
01:30:37PM SUBSTANTIAL BENEFIT FROM CONTRACTS WITH ANY PART OF THE CITY
01:30:42PM RATHER THAN GETTING A BENEFIT -- RATHER THAN ONLY BEING
01:30:46PM PERMITTED FROM ENTERING INTO CONTRACT WITH THEIR OWN
01:30:49PM DEPARTMENT.
01:30:49PM NEXT, SECTION 2-543 IS REVISED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER
01:30:55PM 112 OF THE FLORIDA STATUTES.
01:30:57PM CITY LAW CAN'T BE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN STATE LAW.
01:31:01PM SO THIS MUST BE AMENDED TO RESTRICT THE DISCLOSURE OF
01:31:04PM CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION BY BOTH CURRENT AND FORMER CITY
01:31:08PM OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES NOT JUST CURRENT ONES.
01:31:14PM SECTION 5.6283 REMOVED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
01:31:23PM CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.
01:31:23PM THE COURTS HAVE RULED DISCLOSING DETAILS OF AN ETHICS
01:31:27PM COMPLAINT DOES NOT OUTWEIGH A PERSON'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT
01:31:31PM TO FREE SPEECH AND THEREFORE IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND MUST
01:31:34PM BE REMOVED.
01:31:35PM AS YOU CAN SEE THIS IS JUST A CORRECTIVE ORDINANCE, HOUSE
01:31:38PM KEEPING DESIGNED TO BRING US INTO COMPLIANCE WITH CHARTER,
01:31:41PM STATUTE AND FIRST AMENDMENT.
01:31:42PM AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
01:31:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
01:31:47PM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
01:31:50PM NUMBER 58?
01:31:54PM WE HAVE SOMEONE COMING UP TO SPEAK.
01:31:56PM ARE YOU COMING UP TO SPEAK?
01:31:59PM I GUESS?
01:32:01PM YES, MA'AM, STATE YOUR NAME.
01:32:02PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
01:32:05PM I HAVE AN ISSUE OF THE WHOLE LET'S DROP AN ETHICS COMPLAINT
01:32:10PM FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION -- IS THAT WHAT IT IS, FIVE.
01:32:13PM WAY TOO CLOSE TO THE ELECTIONS IN MY OPINION.
01:32:16PM WE SAW NATIONAL ELECTIONS CHANGE BECAUSE SOMEBODY DROPPED
01:32:20PM THINGS IN THE NEWS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE.
01:32:22PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND BUT FOLKS WHO ARE ON COUNCIL THAT
01:32:27PM WE SAW THINGS COME OUT IN THE MEDIA DURING THE LAST LINKS
01:32:33PM AND SOMEBODY WAITS UNTIL FIVE DAYS BEFOREHAND.
01:32:36PM IT WILL MAKE IT AWFULLY HARD TO WIN.
01:32:39PM THANK YOU.
01:32:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:32:41PM ANYBODY ELSE?
01:32:42PM NOBODY IS REGISTERED.
01:32:43PM MOTION TO CLOSE.
01:32:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
01:32:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
01:32:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:32:48PM OPPOSED.
01:32:49PM ITEM NUMBER 58.
01:32:52PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:32:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE E 2023-8 CHAPTER 2, ORDINANCE FOR
01:32:58PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
01:33:02PM FLORIDA, AMENDING CITY TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 2,
01:33:08PM CITY OF TAMPA ETHICS CODE AMENDING SECTION 2-514 PROHIBITION
01:33:14PM AGAINST RIGHT OF BENEFITS FROM CONTRACTS WITH THE CITY,
01:33:17PM AMENDING SECTION 2-543, USE OF CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION.
01:33:22PM AMENDING 2-658.
01:33:25PM PROCEDURES OF COMPLAINTS OF VIOLATIONS, REPEALING ALL
01:33:30PM ORDINANCES AND ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT THEREWITH.
01:33:33PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING AN FIRST DEGREE I
01:33:37PM HAVE IT DATE.
01:33:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
01:33:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
01:33:40PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
01:33:41PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH COHEN BEING ABSENT.
01:33:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:33:49PM ITEM NUMBER 59.
01:33:51PM YES, SIR.
01:33:56PM >>MICHAEL SCHMID: MICHAEL SCHMID, SECOND READING OF A SCHOOL
01:34:03PM ZONE SPEED CAMERA ORDINANCE.
01:34:06PM YOU REMEMBER ON THE FIRST READ HELD ON DECEMBER 21, VIK
01:34:10PM BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY DEPARTMENT WAS HERE TO ANSWER
01:34:13PM ANY QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE A REPORT.
01:34:15PM SO TODAY WE ARE HERE FOR A SECOND READ, AND I AM HAPPY TO
01:34:18PM ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
01:34:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:34:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. MANISCALCO AND MR. SCHMID WI
01:34:28PM ALL WORK.
01:34:29PM HAVE YOU MET WITH SARAH WITH FEES AND FINES.
01:34:32PM >>MICHAEL SCHMID: YES I SPOKE WITH HER HALF AN HOUR AND
01:34:38PM ANSWERED HER QUESTIONS AND SHE IS IT NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES.
01:34:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DIDN'T HEAR FROM HER AND THAT IS GOOD.
01:34:43PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND VIK.
01:34:46PM A SHOUT OUT TO TRACY COSTAR WHO REPRESENTS A LOT OF THE
01:34:49PM TAMPA BAY AREA IN THE STATE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
01:34:52PM A NICE WOMAN AND GOOD FAMILY LAWYER WHO PUT THIS FORWARD
01:34:59PM ALLOWING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOR SPEED CAMERAS IN SCHOOL
01:35:02PM ZONES.
01:35:02PM FOR PURPOSE OF BACKGROUND, YOU KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE NOT
01:35:05PM CRAZY OF SPEED CAMERAS.
01:35:09PM I AM CERTAINLY NOT.
01:35:11PM I THINK MOST PEOPLE AGREE BY ITS VERY NATURE VERY INTRUSIVE
01:35:16PM AND SOMETHING DON'T LIKE THAT.
01:35:17PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NARROWLY TAILORED.
01:35:19PM IT IS REASONABLE.
01:35:21PM IN TERMS OF ITS REASONABLENESS, FINES ARE CAPPED OVER AT
01:35:26PM OVER $100.
01:35:27PM 30 MINUTES BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL.
01:35:29PM AND YOU DO NOT GET A SPEEDING TICKET UNLESS IF YOU ARE OVER
01:35:33PM TEN MILES OVER THE SPEED LIMIT.
01:35:35PM AND IT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR SCHOOL ZONES.
01:35:39PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I IS GOING TO PROMOTE PUBLIC SAFETY
01:35:46PM IN PRESIDENT CITY OF TAMPA.
01:35:47PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ALREADY GONE THROUGH IT, AND I THINK IT
01:35:50PM IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK HAS WIDESPREAD SUPPORT, AND I
01:35:53PM REALLY, REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS PASS, AND I WANT
01:35:56PM TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE TAMPA BAY AREA REPRESENTATIVE
01:35:59PM TRACY COSTAR.
01:36:00PM THANK YOU.
01:36:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:36:03PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND CLENDENIN.
01:36:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I SAID THIS LAST TIME AND ANYBODY
01:36:08PM WATCHING FOR THE FIRST TIME.
01:36:09PM A LOT OF CONTROVERSIAL OF RED-LIGHT CAMERAS, ABOUT HOW THE
01:36:12PM CUTS ARE LIT, WHO IS RELATED TO WHOM, AND HOW THEY WERE
01:36:16PM ADMINISTERED AND THE APPEAL PROCESS AND EVERYTHING.
01:36:19PM AND SOME OBJECTIONS AROUND THIS, THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT THAT
01:36:23PM SAME THING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
01:36:24PM I KNOW THIS IS NOT YOUR AREA, BUT I WILL ANYONE INVOLVED
01:36:28PM IN PURCHASING, WE HAVE NEW PEOPLE THERE.
01:36:30PM LET'S NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AGAIN.
01:36:33PM IF I SEE -- BY THE PUBLIC'S SAFE, IF I SEE SOMEONE ABUSING
01:36:39PM THIS PROCESS I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW IT OR TAYLOR
01:36:43PM IT.
01:36:43PM IT IS A START, AND WE WILL SEE WHAT IT DOES AND IN THE SHORT
01:36:46PM TERM, WE NEED TO MAKE OUR KIDS AND FAMILIES SAFE.
01:36:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN AND MIRANDA.
01:36:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD SAY THAT, ONE, COUNCILMAN VIERA, I
01:36:54PM DON'T THINK THAT THE RED-LIGHT CAMERAS ARE WIDESPREAD
01:36:57PM POPULAR.
01:36:57PM I THINK YOU SAID SUPPORTED.
01:37:00PM I THINK THEY ARE -- PEOPLE FIND THEM PROBLEMATIC.
01:37:04PM I THINK CAMERA ENFORCEMENT OF LAWS IS A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
01:37:09PM I VOTED AGAINST THIS ON THE FIRST READING.
01:37:11PM I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT ON THE SECOND READING.
01:37:14PM I KNOW AS THE LONE VOTE.
01:37:16PM A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
01:37:17PM I KNOW IT'S -- YOU GET YOUR FINGERNAILS IN A CRACK ON THIS
01:37:22PM WITH PRIVATE VENDORS USING SCHOOL ZONES TO TUG ON FOLKS
01:37:27PM HEARTSTRINGS, BUT I WORRY ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF THESE TYPE
01:37:30PM OF PROGRAMS.
01:37:31PM I WORRY ABOUT -- I JUST DON'T THINK IT IS GOOD FOR OUR
01:37:34PM SATURDAY TO USE THESE TYPES OF ELECTRONIC MONITORING AND
01:37:37PM TAKING PEOPLE EITHER -- EITHER THEIR LIBERTY FOR THEIR
01:37:41PM TREASURE VIA THIS METHOD, EYE NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
01:37:45PM IT SOUNDS GOOD.
01:37:46PM WHO WANTS SPEEDING IN SCHOOL ZONES, I DON'T.
01:37:49PM BUT WE HAVE THE ABILITY THROUGH TRADITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
01:37:51PM TO ENFORCE THESE RULES.
01:37:53PM WE JUST HAVE THE WILL AND THE MEANS TO DO THAT.
01:37:56PM BUT WE ARE CHOOSING THE EASIEST ROUTE AND I DON'T THINK IT
01:38:04PM IS GOOD FOR OUR CITY AND SOCIETY.
01:38:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:38:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BELIEVE I SUPPORT IT.
01:38:12PM RESOLVE -- WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING TO DO.
01:38:16PM IF YOU BUY CAMERA, YOU MIGHT AS WELL STAY HOME.
01:38:19PM IT CAN TELL YOU WHAT DAY YOU LEFT, HOUR, BY YOUR OWN PHONE,
01:38:25PM CELL PHONE, THEY CAN TRACE EVERY MOVEMENT YOU MADE FROM THE
01:38:28PM TIME YOU WOKE UP TO THE TIME YOU GO TO SLEEP.
01:38:30PM SO THERE IS -- THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT
01:38:33PM IN LIFE THAN 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO.
01:38:36PM AND NOW YOU HAVE THINGS ESPECIALLY IN SCHOOL ZONES.
01:38:38PM A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE CHANGED ON AUTOMOBILES.
01:38:42PM SOME AUTOMOBILES YOU CAN HEAR.
01:38:43PM NOT GOING TO HEAR ALL THE ELECTRIC CARS WHEN THEY ALL BECOME
01:38:48PM MOSTLY ELECTRIC WE ARE UNDRIVING AN ELECTRIC CAR.
01:38:57PM THERE IS NO NOISE.
01:38:59PM JUST SPEED.
01:39:00PM YOU DON'T HEAR THE RATTLE, ENGINE OR ANYTHING.
01:39:03PM TOO MANY DISTRACTIONS TODAY OF A DRIVER.
01:39:06PM CELL PHONE IS RINGING.
01:39:07PM THIS IS RINGING.
01:39:08PM YOU MIGHT TURN AROUND AND INNOCENTLY HURT SOMEONE OR KILL
01:39:13PM SOMEONE.
01:39:13PM THAT IS FINE FOR EVERYBODY UNTIL IT IS ONE OF YOUR FAMILY
01:39:16PM MEMBERS OR ONE OF YOUR OWN SONS, DAUGHTERS, GRANDSONS AND
01:39:22PM GRANDDAUGHTERS.
01:39:23PM I AM SUPPORTING THIS IN THE LIGHT THAT SOME INDIVIDUALS MAY
01:39:26PM NOT LIKE IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT IS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE
01:39:29PM GOOD.
01:39:30PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
01:39:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
01:39:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
01:39:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO CLARIFY FOR COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:39:36PM WHEN I SAID THE SPEED CAMERAS ARE POPULAR, I MEANT FOR
01:39:39PM SCHOOL ZONE, NOT IN GENERAL.
01:39:41PM THEY ARE VERY UNPOPULAR IN GENERAL.
01:39:43PM I DO THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT GETS WIDESPREAD SUPPORT.
01:39:47PM SPEED CAMERAS IN GENERAL ARE VERY UNPOPULAR.
01:39:50PM I ALSO WANT TO SAY I HAVE BEEN A 6-1.
01:39:53PM AND I HAVE BEEN THE ONE ON THE OTHER TIME AND I ALWAYS
01:39:56PM SALUTE THE ONE BECAUSE I SAY A LOT OF ISSUES BLACK AND WHITE
01:40:03PM AND SOME THAT LEAN TO THE BLACK AND WHITE AND SOME GRAY IN
01:40:08PM THERE, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN TALKS ABOUT THE GRAY.
01:40:12PM BUT I SALUTE THE ONE.
01:40:14PM THANK YOU.
01:40:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WANT TO SPEAK ON
01:40:18PM ITEM 59.
01:40:18PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:40:20PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:40:22PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:40:23PM OPPOSED?
01:40:24PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:40:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
01:40:28PM CREATING TAMPA CODE SECTION 14-56, TITLED "SCHOOL SPEED ZONE
01:40:34PM ENFORCEMENT CAMERAS."
01:40:36PM AUTHORIZING A SCHOOL SPEED ZONE, SPEED ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM
01:40:40PM AND SPEED DETECTION SYSTEMS WITHIN THE CITY PROVIDING FOR
01:40:45PM IMPLEMENTATION OF SCHOOL ZONES AND ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES
01:40:51PM AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
01:40:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:40:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
01:40:55PM MIRANDA.
01:40:55PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
01:40:57PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN VOTING NO AND
01:41:04PM HENDERSON VOTING ABSENT.
01:41:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 60.
01:41:08PM >>DANA CROSBY COLLIER: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, DANA CROSBY
01:41:10PM COLLIER WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
01:41:11PM ITEM NUMBER 60 ORDINANCE UP FOR SECOND READING THAT CORRECTS
01:41:15PM A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN SECTION 2023-128 OF THE CODE.
01:41:22PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
01:41:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
01:41:26PM THIS ITEM?
01:41:28PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:41:29PM A SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:41:31PM FAVOR.
01:41:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: FILE NUMBER IF E 2023-8 CHAPTER 27, AMENDING
01:41:41PM ORDINANCE 2023-128 PASSED AND ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL
01:41:47PM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON SEPTEMBER 21, 2023, BY CORRECTING A
01:41:52PM SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE BODY OF THE ORDINANCE AND TEXTING
01:41:56PM AMENDMENT SECTION 27-288 SOLID WASTE.
01:42:01PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
01:42:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND A
01:42:07PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:42:08PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
01:42:09PM SOUTH FLORIDA.
01:42:12PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HENDERSON BEING
01:42:16PM ABSENT.
01:42:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:42:18PM ITEM NUMBER 61.
01:42:23PM >> CAN YOU ALL SEE ME?
01:42:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOON.
01:42:26PM NOT YET.
01:42:27PM >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
01:42:49PM ITEM 61, TA/CPA 23-16, MAP AMENDMENT AT FOLIO NUMBERS
01:43:01PM 140515-1214 AND 140515-1216.
01:43:05PM REQUEST TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL
01:43:09PM TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
01:43:10PM AMENDMENT ON THE DECEMBER 14, 2023 HEARING AND IN FRONT OF
01:43:15PM YOU FOR SECOND READING AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
01:43:18PM QUESTIONS.
01:43:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
01:43:21PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 61.
01:43:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE TO CLOSE.
01:43:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:43:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, 61.
01:43:31PM >>COUNCILMAN MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER 61, TA-CPA 23-16,
01:43:37PM ORDINANCE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
01:43:41PM FUTURE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT AND
01:43:45PM LAND USE MAP FOR FOLIO 140515.1214 AND 140515.1216 FROM
01:43:56PM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL HI, TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE CMU-35,
01:44:01PM PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT,
01:44:05PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.
01:44:06PM PROVIDING FOR EFFECTIVE DATE.
01:44:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:44:09PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
01:44:11PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
01:44:13PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HENDERSON BEING
01:44:22PM ABSENT.
01:44:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING.
01:44:27PM IF YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK FOR ANY OF THE REMAINING PUBLIC
01:44:30PM HEARINGS, PLEASE STAND UP AND RAISE YOUR HAND, AND WE WILL
01:44:34PM SWEAR YOU IN.
01:44:35PM [SWEARING IN]
01:44:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:44:43PM ITEM NUMBER.
01:44:47PM >> SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY
01:44:53PM 2501 EAST FOWLER AVENUE.
01:44:56PM THE REQUEST TO REZONE FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND COMMERCIAL
01:44:59PM INTENSIVE TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT MULTIFAMILY RESTAURANT,
01:45:02PM RESTAURANT DRIVE-IN OR OFFICE BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL.
01:45:06PM PLANS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND I AM
01:45:10PM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:45:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
01:45:15PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:45:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE IS HERE FOR ITEM 62.
01:45:23PM I SEE A MICHAEL HOFFMAN AND AVA RUSSO.
01:45:28PM >> YES.
01:45:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WERE YOU SWORN IN AND YOU RAISE YOUR
01:45:33PM RIGHT HAND?
01:45:34PM >> YES, I DID.
01:45:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
01:45:36PM >> I AM AVA RUSSO, I AM WORKING UNDER THE CHARGE OF MICHAEL
01:45:41PM HOFFMAN, AND I WILL BE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS
01:45:43PM ADVANCED ENGINEERING.
01:45:44PM WE ARE REQUESTING TO REZONE THE 4.9 ACRE PROPERTY FROM CG/CI
01:45:49PM TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO ALLOW FOR CHANGE OF USE FROM
01:45:52PM EXISTING 116-UNIT HOTEL AND RESTAURANT TO 116-UNIT
01:46:00PM MULTIFAMILY, RESTAURANT, OFFICE SPACE.
01:46:02PM PROPOSING 24 DWELLING UNITS PER GROSS ACRE AND A LITTLE OVER
01:46:07PM 14,000 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL SPACE.
01:46:09PM SINCE THE FIRST HEARING, MINOR UPDATES TO THE MASTER PLAN
01:46:13PM HAVE BEEN MADE WHICH INCLUDE NATURAL RESOURCE UPDATES AND
01:46:16PM SITE PLAN UPDATES AS WELL AS UPDATES TO THE PARKING WAIVER
01:46:20PM THAT REDUCED THE WAIVER FROM 37% TO 28%.
01:46:24PM I KINDLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE SECOND HEARING TODAY.
01:46:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
01:46:28PM ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
01:46:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO HEAR TESTIMONY FROM THE DOG.
01:46:34PM I HEARD A DOG.
01:46:35PM >> SORRY ABOUT THAT.
01:46:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HEARD THE DOG.
01:46:37PM >> THE ONE TIME SHE CHOOSES TO MAKE A SOUND.
01:46:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE HIM RAISE HIS RIGHT HAND.
01:46:44PM IF HE IS GOING TO TALK, SWEAR IN THE DOG.
01:46:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SWEAR IN THE DOG.
01:46:48PM ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 62.
01:46:50PM A MOTION TO CLOSE.
01:46:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION TO CLOSE.
01:46:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:46:55PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:46:55PM OPPOSED?
01:46:57PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:46:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE FILE NUMBER REZ 23-332,
01:47:06PM ORDINANCE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION REZONING IN 23501 EAST
01:47:13PM FOWLER AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
01:47:16PM SECTION 1, CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND CI, COMMERCIAL
01:47:22PM INTENSIVE, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, RESTAURANT, RESTAURANT
01:47:28PM OFFICE BUSINESS.
01:47:29PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
01:47:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
01:47:38PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HENDERSON BEING
01:47:42PM ABSENT AND VIERA.
01:47:43PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
01:47:49PM ITEM 23-70 THE REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL
01:47:57PM SINGLE-FAMILY 50 TO MULTIFAMILY-18.
01:48:01PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:48:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AN APPLICANT FROM THE PUBLIC FOR ITEM
01:48:09PM 63.
01:48:11PM >> MY NAME IS RUTH PADELLA.
01:48:13PM AND, NO, NOT REALLY, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE THIS
01:48:19PM PROPERTY LEGAL BECAUSE IT IS ALREADY ONE BEDROOM -- TWO
01:48:26PM BEDROOM, ONE BATH UPSTAIRS.
01:48:28PM WHEN WE BOUGHT IT, IT WAS ALREADY CLOSED IN.
01:48:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK FOR
01:48:39PM ITEM 63?
01:48:41PM YES, MA'AM.
01:48:42PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
01:48:43PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR, I SUPPORT THIS.
01:48:47PM THIS LADY DID GOOD JOB DOING THIS ALL BY HERSELF.
01:48:50PM THIS WAS THE HOUSE THAT WAS BUSTED UP IN TWO PARTS.
01:48:52PM LACHONE AND I HAD A SIDEBAR ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT SAID --
01:48:58PM THEY SAID THAT YOU COULD DO UP TO THREE UNITS ON IT.
01:49:01PM BUT WHEN YOU DO THE CALCULATIONS I BOARDING TO WHAT WAS ON
01:49:04PM THE STAFF REPORT, IT -- THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY IN THE SIZE
01:49:09PM OF THE PROPERTY.
01:49:09PM IT IS ACTUALLY ONLY TWO UNITS.
01:49:11PM SO THAT IS JUST ME.
01:49:13PM I MEAN, I DON'T USUALLY QUESTION STAFF ABOUT THAT, BUT -- IT
01:49:17PM WAS -- IT WAS -- I DID THE MATH BEFORE I CAME UP HERE.
01:49:19PM AND WHEN I ASKED HER ABOUT IT AND SHE SAID A DIFFERENCE IN
01:49:23PM THINGS.
01:49:23PM SO, YOU KNOW, I -- THAT WAS COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN'S ISSUE
01:49:28PM WITH IT THINKING THEY COULD BUILD THREE UNITS ON THAT LOT,
01:49:31PM AND THEY CAN'T I WOULDN'T LET THEM.
01:49:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION TO STAFF.
01:49:36PM IF SOMEBODY FROM STAFF OR LEGAL.
01:49:38PM IF THEY WERE TO TEAR -- AFTER THIS IS ALL DONE, IF THIS
01:49:41PM HOUSE WAS TO BE TORN DOWN AND THEY WANTED TO REDEVELOP THIS
01:49:44PM PROPERTY, WHAT WOULD BE THEIR ENTITLEMENT?
01:49:52PM >>SAM THOMAS: BASED ON WHAT I AM READING THAT THREE UNITS
01:49:58PM COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THE PROPERTY.
01:49:59PM IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH ME TAKING A MOMENT TO DO A
01:50:03PM RECALCULATION, I CAN DO THAT FOR YOU.
01:50:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS IT NECESSARY?
01:50:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES ANYBODY ELSE CARE?
01:50:09PM I MEAN THE VOTE --
01:50:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
01:50:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT VOTED AGAINST IT.
01:50:13PM I AM NOT GOING TO BELABOR THE POINT.
01:50:15PM MY ONLY OBJECTION.
01:50:16PM I UNDERSTAND YOUR SITUATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE -- YOU ARE
01:50:19PM TRYING TO BRING SOMETHING THAT IS CURRENTLY -- I AM JUST
01:50:22PM WORRIED OF THE FUTURE AND THE IMPACT IT HAS ON THE NEIGHBORS
01:50:25PM AND THE STREET.
01:50:25PM LET'S SAY YOU WERE TO MOVE AWAY AND SELL YOUR PROPERTY AND
01:50:29PM THE DEVELOPER WAS TO COME IN AND TEAR IT DOWN.
01:50:31PM WHAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY DEVELOP AND THE IMPACT IT HAS ON
01:50:35PM ITS NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:50:35PM THAT WAS MY ONLY CONCERN.
01:50:36PM I DON'T THINK MY FELONY COUNCIL PEOPLE SHARE MY CONCERN.
01:50:40PM YOU ARE OKAY.
01:50:41PM >> I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THE PROPERTY, FIRST OF ALL,
01:50:46PM WOULD NOT SUPPORT THREE UNITS.
01:50:49PM IT'S NOT BIG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THREE UNITS.
01:50:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WOULD BE SURPRISE WHAT THEY DEVELOP IN
01:50:54PM THE CITY.
01:50:54PM >> YEAH, I KNOW.
01:50:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOULD YOU BE SURPRISED.
01:50:57PM >> I KNOW, I KNOW.
01:50:58PM NO, I HAVE SEEN IT.
01:51:00PM I HAVE SEEN IT.
01:51:01PM I HAVE BEEN TO SOUTH TAMPA.
01:51:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANTED TO LET'S YOU KNOW NOTHING
01:51:05PM PERSONAL.
01:51:05PM I HAVE CONCERN BECAUSE I AM TRYING TO BE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD
01:51:07PM PROTECTION GUY AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THESE NEIGHBORHOODS
01:51:11PM ARE NOT OVERDEVELOPED.
01:51:12PM >> NO, THAT --
01:51:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY ONLY CONCERN.
01:51:15PM THE REASON I VOTED NO.
01:51:17PM >> OKAY.
01:51:17PM THANK YOU.
01:51:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:51:19PM A MOTION TO CLOSE.
01:51:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
01:51:21PM SOUTH FLORIDA.
01:51:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:51:28PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, 63.
01:51:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE REZ-23-70, ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
01:51:38PM AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE FOR THE GENERAL HAVE I SIN SEE OF
01:51:43PM 7212 SOUTH SHERRILL STREET ON THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
01:51:49PM FOR RS-50 RESIDENTIAL TASK FORCE TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL
01:51:56PM MULTIFAMILY.
01:51:57PM PROVIDE AN FICTIVE DATE.
01:51:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:51:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VOTE.
01:52:02PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN VOTING NO AND VIERA
01:52:05PM BEING ABSENT AT VOTE AND HENDERSON BEING ABSENT.
01:52:08PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, ITEM NUMBER 64, REZ 23-95.
01:52:16PM REZONING REQUEST FOR 3616 WEST BALLAST POINT BOULEVARD.
01:52:20PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
01:52:23PM DEVELOPMENT FOR RESTAURANT DRIVE-IN.
01:52:25PM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
01:52:28PM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
01:52:29PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:52:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
01:52:34PM NO, YES, MA'AM.
01:52:35PM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
01:52:38PM UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED ON FIRST READING AND WE RESPECTFULLY
01:52:43PM ASK NOR YOUR APPROVAL TODAY.
01:52:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
01:52:46PM ITEM NUMBER 64?
01:52:48PM YES, MA'AM?
01:52:55PM >> NO ONE EVACUATES FROM COFFEE SHOPS.
01:52:57PM WE ARE EXCITED.
01:52:58PM THANK YOU.
01:52:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NAME?
01:53:02PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
01:53:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NAME.
01:53:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
01:53:09PM MOTION TO CLOSE.
01:53:09PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:53:11PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:53:13PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE -- WAIT, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:53:16PM 64.
01:53:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, SIR.
01:53:18PM 64, FILE NUMBER REZ-23-95, ORDINANCE REZONING FROM 3616 WEST
01:53:27PM BALLAST POINT, BOULEVARDS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, MORE
01:53:31PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM PD PLANNED
01:53:35PM DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT RESTAURANT DRIVE-IN
01:53:39PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
01:53:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:53:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
01:53:44PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HENDERSON BEING
01:53:48PM ABSENT.
01:53:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN THIS?
01:54:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: I PUT IT HERE SO I WOULDN'T FORGET IT.
01:54:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A WHITMAN'S CHOCOLATE SAMPLER.
01:54:08PM I AM A HERSHEY'S GUY SO I CAN'T EAT IT.
01:54:10PM ITEM NUMBER 65.
01:54:12PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
01:54:15PM REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2602 AND 2616 SOUTH
01:54:21PM MacDILL AVENUE AND 3008 WEST BARCELONA STREET.
01:54:26PM THE REQUEST TO REZONE FROM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PLANNED
01:54:28PM DEVELOPMENT FOR RESTAURANT AND COMMERCIAL IN RECREATIONAL
01:54:34PM INDOOR.
01:54:36PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:54:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
01:54:40PM AN APPLICANT FOR 65.
01:54:41PM >> ALEX SCHALER, 400 ASHLEY DRIVE, COPY AND PASTE FROM THE LAST ONE.
01:54:47PM UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED IN FIRST READING AND WE RESPECTFULLY
01:54:50PM REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL TODAY.
01:54:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO
01:54:53PM SPEAK FOR ITEM 65.
01:54:54PM A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:54:56PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:54:58PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE?
01:54:59PM COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR 65.
01:55:01PM AND THEN BACK TO MIRANDA.
01:55:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
01:55:07PM READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
01:55:10PM GENERAL VICINITY OF 2602 AND 2616 SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE AND
01:55:15PM 3008 WEST BARCELONA STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, MORE
01:55:19PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, ZONING DISTRICT
01:55:22PM CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
01:55:25PM DEVELOPMENT RESTAURANT AND COMMERCIAL RECREATIONAL INDOOR
01:55:28PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
01:55:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:55:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
01:55:34PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HENDERSON BEING
01:55:39PM ABSENT.
01:55:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:55:43PM ITEM 66.
01:55:44PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
01:55:47PM REZ-23-102.
01:55:50PM REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY 2006 SOUTH HABANA AVENUE
01:55:55PM UNITS A AND B, REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL 50 TO
01:56:01PM REFERRING MULTIFAMILY 12.
01:56:03PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:56:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY HERE REPRESENTING 56.
01:56:10PM JUSTIN.
01:56:11PM IS HE ON LINE?
01:56:12PM WAS HE SWORN IN?
01:56:13PM NO?
01:56:15PM SIR, IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
01:56:16PM WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
01:56:18PM PLEASE TURN YOUR CAMERA ON.
01:56:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO
01:56:49PM SPEAK CONTINUE TO 66.
01:56:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
01:56:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
01:56:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, 66.
01:56:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, 66.
01:57:01PM REZ-3-102.
01:57:05PM ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE FOR
01:57:10PM GENERAL VICINITY OF 2006 SOUTH HABANA FROM RO TO RS-50,
01:57:21PM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RM-12, RESIDENTIAL
01:57:24PM MULTIFAMILY.
01:57:25PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:57:27PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:57:28PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
01:57:30PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HENDERSON BEING
01:57:34PM ABSENT.
01:57:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 67.
01:57:40PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
01:57:43PM REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY 2618 EAST CORRINE STREET.
01:57:47PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16 TO
01:57:51PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 24.
01:57:53PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
01:57:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
01:57:57PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC REPRESENTING 67, IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
01:58:01PM ANYBODY THAT IS HERE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON 67?
01:58:04PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:58:06PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:58:07PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:58:08PM ANY OPPOSED.
01:58:09PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, BACK TO YOU.
01:58:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE ITEM 67 AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
01:58:17PM FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE 28-16, EAST CORRINE
01:58:23PM STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE TECHNICALLY
01:58:26PM DESCRIBED ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL
01:58:30PM MULTIFAMILY TO RM-24, RELATION MULTIFAMILY.
01:58:37PM PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
01:58:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
01:58:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:58:43PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
01:58:44PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HENDERSON BEING
01:58:48PM ABSENT.
01:58:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 68.
01:58:50PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
01:58:54PM ITEM 68 REZ 23-106.
01:58:59PM PROPERTY 2810 WEST MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD AND
01:59:05PM 2809 WEST VIRGINIA AVENUE, TO REZONE FROM CG TO RO-1
01:59:15PM RESIDENTIAL OFFER TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD
01:59:21PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
01:59:22PM MR. BRICKLEMYER.
01:59:23PM >> CLAYTON BRICKLEMYER.
01:59:25PM WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL AND ARE AVAILABLE FOR
01:59:28PM QUESTIONS.
01:59:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK
01:59:31PM ON ITEM 68?
01:59:33PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:59:35PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN.
01:59:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEM NUMBER 23-106, ORDINANCE
01:59:44PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
01:59:48PM 2810 WEST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD AND 2809
01:59:52PM WEST VIRGINIA AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
01:59:56PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
01:59:59PM CLASSIFICATION CG, COMMERCIAL GENERAL, RO-1, RESIDENTIAL
02:00:05PM OFFICE, AND RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED
02:00:09PM DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, MEDICAL.
02:00:11PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:00:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:00:13PM TREMENDOUS.
02:00:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:00:17PM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
02:00:20PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HENDERSON BEING
02:00:22PM ABSENT.
02:00:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 69, GO AHEAD, ARE SIR.
02:00:28PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
02:00:32PM ITEM NUMBER 69, WEST FOLIO 140515-1213 AND 140515-1215.
02:00:45PM REQUEST TO REZONE FROM HEAVY INDUSTRIAL TO PLANNED
02:00:47PM DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY MIDRISE AND
02:00:51PM COMMERCIAL PARKING.
02:00:52PM REVISIONS HAVE OPINION CLEATED AND CERTIFIED PLANS COMMITTED
02:00:55PM TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
02:00:58PM QUESTIONS.
02:00:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
02:01:01PM ANYBODY HERE REPRESENTING 69.
02:01:03PM I SEE THREE PEOPLE REGISTERED ONLINE.
02:01:05PM ARE THEY ON?
02:01:06PM OH, MA'AM?
02:01:07PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:01:09PM >> HI, JESSICA ICERMAN.
02:01:13PM THE PEOPLE ONLINE MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPLICANT.
02:01:17PM I AM JUST HERE -- YOU GUYS VOTED UNANIMOUSLY DURING FIRST
02:01:21PM READING, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE SAME TODAY.
02:01:23PM I DID NOTICE A DISCREPANCY IN THE PARCEL ID NUMBER, SO, SAM,
02:01:29PM WE MAY WANT TO DOUBLE COLLECT THAT IN TODAY'S MEETING IN
02:01:32PM CASE WE NEED TO FIX ANYTHING.
02:01:34PM >> I AM GOING TO VERIFY THE PARCEL IDs QUICKLY ON THE SITE
02:01:40PM PLAN.
02:01:40PM >> LOOKING AT THE DISCREPANCY WHAT WAS READ IN THE COMP PLAN
02:01:44PM AMENDMENT THAT WAS JUST PASSED.
02:01:46PM THOSE PARCEL ID NUMBERS VERSUS THE PARCEL ID NUMBERS THAT
02:01:51PM WERE JUST READ NOW.
02:01:52PM >> THE PARCEL NUMBERS RIGHT NOW ARE PROBABLY THE MOST UP TO
02:01:55PM DATE.
02:01:56PM I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE PARCEL NUMBERS FROM THE COMP PLAN
02:01:59PM AMENDMENT ARE THE OLD PARCEL NUMBERS FROM BEFORE -- BEFORE
02:02:02PM WHEN THE PROPERTY APPRAISERS COMBINED THESE PARCELS TOGETHER
02:02:06PM AND THEY HAD TO BE UNCOMBINED.
02:02:07PM I WILL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO IT MORE.
02:02:10PM >> A SITUATION HALFWAY THROUGH THE PROCESS WHERE THE
02:02:13PM PROPERTY APPRAISER SWITCHED OUR PARCEL ID NUMBERS WITHOUT
02:02:17PM OUR CONSENT OR KNOWLEDGE.
02:02:18PM WITH THE TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE CORRECTION PROCESS.
02:02:22PM SO NOW I WOULD LIKE A MOMENT TO CONFIRM THE PARCEL ID
02:02:27PM NUMBERS AND MAKE SURE THE COMP PLAN AND REZONINGS ARE
02:02:30PM CONSISTENT BECAUSE DIFFERENT PARCEL NUMBERS THAN I JUST
02:02:33PM HEARD.
02:02:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WANT US TO COME BACK TO YOU IN A LITTLE
02:02:36PM BIT?
02:02:37PM >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
02:02:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOLD THIS ITEM AND ITEM NUMBER 70.
02:02:41PM WE ALREADY OPENED ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
02:02:44PM RAISE YOUR HAND WHEN YOU ARE READY AND WE WILL COME BACK TO
02:02:47PM YOU.
02:02:47PM WE WILL CONTINUE ON WITH THE AGENDA.
02:02:48PM >> THANK YOU, NO PROBLEM.
02:02:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
02:02:50PM ITEM NUMBER 70.
02:03:03PM >>JC HUTCHINSON: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:03:06PM JC HUTCHINSON, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, CONSTRUCTION SERVICE
02:03:11PM MANAGER TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF PROPOSED CHAPTER 5
02:03:15PM CHANGES.
02:03:15PM I SHOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT IS UPLOADED.
02:03:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WILL BE COMING UP IN JUST A SECOND.
02:03:19PM THE ONE WITH LIKE THE THREE OR FOUR SLIDES?
02:03:22PM >> YES.
02:03:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
02:03:23PM WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON OUR SCREENS HERE.
02:03:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVEN'T HAD THEM.
02:03:38PM >> I CAN PUT IT ON THE ELMO IF WE NEED TO.
02:03:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
02:03:54PM DO IT LIKE THAT.
02:03:57PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:03:58PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
02:04:00PM >> SO THE INTENT FOR THE CHANGES HERE FOR CHAPTER 5 IS
02:04:03PM JUST TRYING TO COMBINE THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES DIVISION
02:04:06PM DOCUMENTATION AND COMBINE THE STATE AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS
02:04:09PM TO REORGANIZE THE CODE SECTIONS TO PROVIDE CLARITY AND
02:04:14PM CONSISTENCY TO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE FLORIDA BUILDING
02:04:18PM CODE THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE REGULATES BUILDING
02:04:24PM CONSTRUCTION THROUGH THE STATE OF FLORIDA THROUGH THE
02:04:26PM FLORIDA BUILDING COMMISSION.
02:04:27PM AND TOP OF THAT, LOCAL CHAPTER 5, PROVIDES THE LOCAL
02:04:31PM AMENDMENTS WE NEED TO HELP MANAGE THE CODE.
02:04:36PM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES IN COLLABORATION WITH THE LEGAL
02:04:39PM DEPARTMENT REORGANIZED CHAPTER 5 TO COMBINE THE STATE AND
02:04:42PM LOCAL REQUIREMENTS PROVIDING CLARITY AND CONSISTENCY.
02:04:49PM CURRENTLY IN IT THE 8th EDITION THAT STARTED JANUARY 1.
02:04:53PM IDEALLY, THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE UPDATES EVERY THREE
02:04:56PM YEARS.
02:04:56PM UNFORTUNATELY, OUR CHAPTER 5 HAS NOT BEEN REVAMPED SINCE
02:05:01PM FEBRUARY OF 2009.
02:05:02PM THEREFORE, THERE HAS BEEN DISCREPANCIES IN AND NEW CHANGES
02:05:07PM IN CHAPTER 1 LED TO DISCREPANCY IN OUR CHAPTER 5.
02:05:11PM THE EMPHASIS TO REORGANIZE THIS AND MAKE IT WORK.
02:05:14PM WITH THESE SECTIONS, THESE ASSIGNMENTS, WE ALSO LOOKED AT
02:05:19PM OUR FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.
02:05:20PM WE JUST REARRANGED IT TO A DIFFERENT AREA TO STAY COMPLIANT.
02:05:24PM AND IT ALIGNS WITH THE NUMBERING AND THE SECTIONS OF THE
02:05:27PM FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.
02:05:28PM OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS, I HAD BRIEFS WITH TAMPA BAY
02:05:32PM BUILDERS ASSOCIATION.
02:05:32PM WE HAVE TWO ADVISORY GROUPS OF ARCHITECTS, ENGINEER GROUP,
02:05:37PM AS WELL AS OUR DEVELOPER AND GENERAL CONTRACTOR ADVISORY
02:05:40PM GROUPS TO DISCUSS THIS INFORMATION, AS WELL AS
02:05:44PM REPRESENTATIVES FROM T.H.A.N.
02:05:45PM SO WHEN WE ARE STICKING TO THE FLORIDA BUILDING COMMISSION
02:05:52PM AND THEIR REQUIREMENTS, WE HAVE TO BREAK UP THE LOCAL
02:05:55PM AMENDMENTS INTO TWO DIFFERENT BRACKETS.
02:05:58PM ONE ARE ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENTS AND TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS.
02:06:02PM ADMINISTRATIVE AMENDMENTS HOW THE CITY IS RUN, HOW THE CITY
02:06:06PM DEPARTMENT HANDLES FEES AND REFUNDS WITH DIFFERENT JURORS
02:06:11PM CONNECTIONS, DIFFERENT AREAS.
02:06:13PM THE STATE WILL NOT REGULATE THAT AT THE STATE LEVEL AND
02:06:16PM LEAVE THAT TO THE LOCAL JURISDICTION.
02:06:17PM SECOND SECTION IS FOR ONE-STOP-SHOP.
02:06:19PM NOT ONLY REVIEW FOR BUILDING BUT ON THE PRIVATE SITE, TREE,
02:06:25PM LANDSCAPING, BUFFERING, ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND KEEP IT IN
02:06:29PM ONE PLACE THAT IS CONCISE FOR PEOPLE TO GET THE INFORMATION.
02:06:32PM LAST PART OF ADMINISTRATIVE, MAINTAINING COMPLIANCE WITH THE
02:06:35PM CURRENT FLORIDA STATUTES.
02:06:36PM AS WE HAVE THE RECERTIFICATION BILL, MILESTONE
02:06:40PM RECERTIFICATION, ALL THOSE THINGS COMING THROUGH.
02:06:42PM DOESN'T ALWAYS LINE UP WHEN THE PRINTING FOR THE BOOK
02:06:45PM HAPPENS.
02:06:45PM THINGS THAT ARE CHANGED AND NEEDING TO BE UPDATED, AND WE ARE
02:06:48PM LOOKING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE AS UP TO DATE AS WE CAN.
02:06:50PM THE OTHER SECTION IS TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS, THINGS ARE
02:06:53PM INTENTIONALLY MORE STRINGENT THAN THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE.
02:06:56PM THE BIGGEST ONE WHICH HANG OUR HAT ON FLOOD ORDINANCE AND
02:07:00PM COMMUNITY RATING SYSTEM.
02:07:01PM WE ARE AT A LEVEL 5, 25% DISCOUNTS FOR FLOOD INSURANCE FOR
02:07:06PM CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:07:07PM WE WANT TO KEEP THAT AND REARRANGING THAT TO MAKE SURE ALL
02:07:10PM THE SECTIONS LINE UP CORRECTLY.
02:07:12PM AND THEN REAL QUICKLY BEFORE I GO INTO Q&A, I WANT TO THANK
02:07:18PM MY STAFF.
02:07:19PM NOT JUST ME THAT PUT THIS TOGETHER.
02:07:20PM DAVE JENNINGS, TROY CHAVEZ, CLAUDIA EWING AND CAMARIA
02:07:26PM PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS TAKEN MY SCREEN
02:07:28PM SHOTS, TEXT MESSAGES, E-MAILS TO PUT THIS TOGETHER TO MAKE
02:07:32PM IT WORK.
02:07:32PM I'M HERE WITH ANY QUESTIONS.
02:07:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT ABOUT ABBYE FEELEY.
02:07:37PM >> ABBYE FEELEY IS MY WORDSMITH MAKING SURE MY WORDS AND
02:07:43PM SENTENCE STRUCTURE ARE RIGHT.
02:07:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST OF ALL, WHOEVER HAS THAT CELL
02:07:46PM PHONE, PLEASE FIX IT.
02:07:48PM OH, IT IS OUTSIDE?
02:07:50PM OH, IT JUST SOUNDED LIKE A CELL PHONE.
02:07:51PM OKAY, THANK YOU.
02:07:52PM I APPRECIATE Y'ALL TELLING ME.
02:07:55PM I JUST -- ANYWAY.
02:07:57PM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS WAS A
02:08:00PM HEAVY LIFT.
02:08:02PM WHEN WE HAVEN'T UPDATED SOMETHING IN 14 YEARS TO WHAT THE
02:08:06PM STATE HAS CONTINUE TO.
02:08:06PM THAT IS A LONG TIME.
02:08:07PM THAT IS PROBABLY FOUR ITERATIONS PLUS.
02:08:10PM SO I HAVE KNOW A LOT OF THAT WAS THE HARD WORK.
02:08:13PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT AND I APPRECIATE YOU, AGAIN,
02:08:16PM REACHING OUT TO THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT BECAUSE THAT IS
02:08:19PM VERY CRITICAL.
02:08:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:08:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: I ASKED YOU THIS QUESTION IN THE BRIEFING
02:08:26PM AND SAID I WILL ASK YOU HERE TO MAKE SURE.
02:08:28PM CONFIRM TO US AND THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS ALL ADHERING TO
02:08:33PM STATE LAW AND NOTHING IN ADDITION TO THAT?
02:08:36PM WHEN WE GOT THE BRIEFING ON LIVE LOCAL, IT INCLUDED THINGS
02:08:41PM ADDITION TO RECOMMENDATIONS AND ADDITION TO AND COPYING AND
02:08:45PM PASTING STATE LAW.
02:08:46PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE, NOTHING ELSE IN
02:08:50PM HERE.
02:08:50PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
02:08:50PM IT IS A COPY AND PASTE.
02:08:52PM EXACTLY THE MOST RECENT.
02:08:54PM IT JUST DIDN'T MATCH OUR CURRENT CHAPTER 1.
02:08:56PM IF YOU LOOK UP OUR SECTION, WE HAD ISSUE WITH SHORE LIENS
02:09:00PM AND OTHER DEFINITIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DEFINED.
02:09:03PM THIS IS A COPY AND PASTE OF THE STATUTE.
02:09:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
02:09:07PM ANYONE ELSE?
02:09:08PM PUBLIC COMMENT ON ITEM 70.
02:09:10PM STATE YOUR NAME.
02:09:11PM >> STEVE MICHELINI, ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA BUILDERS
02:09:16PM ASSOCIATION.
02:09:16PM AS CHAIRMAN OF THE GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.
02:09:19PM WE MEET REGULARLY WITH JC AND HIS STAFF REGARDING THESE
02:09:22PM CHANGES.
02:09:23PM AND I CAN TELL THAT YOU THIS WAS A HERCULEAN EFFORT TO
02:09:29PM DRAW ALL THE DIFFERENT CODES AND THE RESTRICTIONS REGARDING
02:09:34PM HOW YOU PROCESS BUILDING PERMITS.
02:09:37PM AND TO PUT THEM ALL INTO ONE LOCATION.
02:09:39PM OF PARTICULAR CONCERN AND CC MENTIONED IT, THAT THE FEMA
02:09:46PM CODE WAS ADOPTED AFTER THE ORIGINAL BUILDING CODES IN THE
02:09:49PM CITY OF TAMPA.
02:09:49PM AND THOSE CREATE SOME UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH WE ARE
02:09:53PM HAVING TO FOLLOW.
02:09:54PM AND I KNOW THAT CITY COUNCIL HAS LISTEN TO SOME OF THESE
02:09:59PM REGARDING ELEVATING BUILDINGS AND HOW THIS DOES THAT AFFECT
02:10:02PM THE ZONING AND SETBACKS AND HEIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
02:10:04PM SO THEY HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
02:10:06PM AND TVBA IS ENDORSING THIS CHANGE.
02:10:11PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
02:10:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
02:10:14PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:10:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
02:10:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN -- HOLD ON.
02:10:21PM ARE YOU GOING TO COME UP AND SPEAK, MA'AM?
02:10:23PM OR NO?
02:10:25PM OKAY.
02:10:25PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:10:28PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:10:29PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE?
02:10:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU LOOK VERY COMFY BACK THERE.
02:10:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:10:35PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, I BELIEVE IT IS YOU.
02:10:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
02:10:39PM NO PROBLEM, FILE NUMBER E 2023-8, CHAPTER 5, ORDINANCE
02:10:49PM DELETING IN ITS ENTIRELY THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
02:10:53PM ORDINANCES CHAPTER 5, BUILDING CODE, ADOPTING LOANING
02:10:57PM ADMINISTRATIVE AND TECHNICAL AMENDMENTS TO THE FLORIDA
02:10:59PM BUILDING CODE, REORGANIZING THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
02:11:04PM ORDINANCES, CHAPTER 5, BUILDING CODE, TO ALIGN WITH THE
02:11:07PM FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY.
02:11:10PM PROVIDING FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:11:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:11:14PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:11:15PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:11:16PM AYE.
02:11:17PM FIRST READING.
02:11:19PM >>CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION FEBRUARY 1, 2024 AT
02:11:24PM 9:30 A.M.
02:11:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 71.
02:11:38PM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS.
02:11:42PM FILE NUMBER VA-23-23.
02:11:46PM APPLICANT IS CLAIRE PILLARELLI.
02:11:49PM PROPERTY ADDRESS IS WEST FRIBLEY STREET.
02:11:56PM VACATING THE ALLEY OF FRIBLEY STREET, SOUTH OF PENINSULAR
02:12:04PM STREET AND EAST OF NORTH MYRTLE AVENUE AND WEST OF POPLAR
02:12:09PM AVENUE.
02:12:09PM APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE ALLEY THAT
02:12:13PM IS REQUESTING TO BE VACATED.
02:12:14PM THE APPLICANT'S REASON FOR THE APPLICATION IS UNMAINTAINED
02:12:17PM ALLEY REDUCE CITY BURDEN FOR MAITENANCE.
02:12:20PM CREATE BY SUBDIVISION PLAT AND EXISTING ALLEY IS 6,000
02:12:25PM SQUARE FEET.
02:12:25PM HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPERTY IN RED.
02:12:33PM AND THE ALLEY REQUESTED TO BE VACATED IN YELLOW.
02:12:36PM SUBDIVISION PLAT, LOT 37 THE CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS SHEET
02:12:55PM SHOWING ANY RELATED OR OTHER PREVIOUSLY VACATED ALLEYS IN
02:13:01PM THE AREA.
02:13:02PM THE PROPOSED VACATING IS IN RED.
02:13:04PM AND, AGAIN, PREVIOUSLY VACATED TO THE NORTH BLOCK.
02:13:09PM THE NORTH BLOCK.
02:13:12PM THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING WEST OF
02:13:26PM NORTH MYRTLE AVENUE, APPROXIMATELY LOCATION.
02:13:30PM THIS IS THE ALLEY LOOKING EAST TO NORTH POPLAR AVENUE.
02:13:35PM APPROXIMATE LOCATION HERE STAFF HAD NO OBJECTION TO THE
02:13:42PM VACATING REQUEST.
02:13:43PM EASEMENT ARE REQUIRED BY SPECTRUM, TECO AND WASTEWATER.
02:13:47PM SPECIAL CONDITIONS INCLUDE NATURAL RESOURCES AND MUST
02:13:51PM COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 27 OF TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE FOR
02:13:56PM ADJACENT TO TREES IN THE VACATED AREA.
02:13:58PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:14:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS?
02:14:04PM HOW WIDE IS THE ALLEY?
02:14:07PM >>ROSS SAMONS: TEN FEET.
02:14:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
02:14:12PM ANYBODY FROM THE APPLICANT THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
02:14:21PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, I AM CLAIRE PILLARELLI, THE APPLICANT.
02:14:27PM I SUBMITTED THIS BECAUSE HELPS TO REDUCE THE BURDEN OF
02:14:32PM MAINTENANCE TO THE CITY AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, OPENS UP
02:14:34PM GREEN SPACE THAT CURRENTLY TO RESIDENTS IN THE BLOCK.
02:14:38PM THE ALLEY IS CURRENTLY NOT PASSABLE FROM THE MYRTLE DUE TO
02:14:47PM OVERGROWTH BUILT UP OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, AND I THINK
02:14:49PM IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY MAKE USE OF THAT AND JUST EXPAND
02:14:53PM ON ALL THE TREES AND LIVABLE GREEN SPACE THAT IS, YOU KNOW,
02:14:56PM CURRENTLY IN RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:15:01PM THE OTHER PIECE I WOULD SAY THIS APPLICATION CLEARS UP THE
02:15:06PM CONFUSION THAT I HEARD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHO IS
02:15:08PM ACCOUNTABLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT AREA.
02:15:09PM YOU KNOW BY THE CITY VACATING IT, IT BECOMES VERY CLEAR WHO
02:15:13PM IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT SPACE MOVING FORWARD.
02:15:17PM OTHER THAN THAT, THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD ONE OF THE
02:15:25PM NEIGHBORS HE WILL PLAN ON ATTENDING THE SECOND READING OF
02:15:29PM THIS AS WELL.
02:15:29PM AND OR MAKING A STATEMENT AVAILABLE ONLINE.
02:15:32PM SO, THANK YOU.
02:15:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
02:15:39PM THIS ISSUE?
02:15:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE SOMEBODY REGISTERED, IS THAT
02:15:44PM CORRECT?
02:15:45PM MARY SALAS, I BELIEVE.
02:15:47PM WAS SHE SWORN IN?
02:15:50PM OH, OKAY.
02:15:50PM GO AHEAD.
02:15:51PM MARY, IF YOU WERE ON THE ONLINE AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK,
02:15:54PM PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
02:15:56PM YES, MA'AM.
02:16:04PM >> OKAY, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
02:16:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
02:16:07PM >> HI, MY NAME IS MARY SALAS.
02:16:10PM I LIVE AT 813 WEST FRIBLEY STREET, ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT
02:16:19PM IS FOR VACATUBG,
02:16:21PM I AM OPPOSING IT FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
02:16:22PM I SENT AN E-MAIL TO CITY COUNCIL YESTERDAY MORNING
02:16:25PM EXPLAINING ALL OF THOSE REASONS.
02:16:26PM I SENT IT TO ALL OF YOU.
02:16:28PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT.
02:16:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHE SHOULD TESTIFY TO IT.
02:16:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST FOR THE PURPOSES AND IT WENT IN
02:16:42PM YESTERDAY.
02:16:42PM AND IT WAS UP-- I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS AVAILABLE TO TESTIFY.
02:16:47PM IT WAS?
02:16:48PM >> I WAS BASICALLY OUTLINING IN THE E-MAIL MY REASONS FOR
02:16:51PM OPPOSING IT.
02:16:51PM AND I CAN ELABORATE THAT HERE NOW IF YOU DON'T MIND.
02:16:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
02:16:56PM >> ONE OF MY REASONS IS, I HAVE A GATE IN MY REAR FRONT.
02:17:01PM AND I ACCESS AND USE THE ALLEY.
02:17:02PM FOR ONE, THERE IS A LARGE OAK TREE THAT SITS ON THE BORDER
02:17:08PM OF THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE ALLEY BEHIND ME AND THE PROPERTY
02:17:14PM BEHIND ME.
02:17:14PM BECAUSE THAT TREE ALSO GROWS OVER INTO MY AREA.
02:17:18PM I HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT.
02:17:19PM AND BECAUSE THE ALLEY IS CLEAR FROM MY PROPERTY WEST ALL THE
02:17:25PM WAY TO POPLAR, BECAUSE I AND THE NEIGHBORS MAINTAIN.
02:17:33PM I USE THE ALI FOR THE TREE TRIMMERS TO COME IN, DO THEIR
02:17:36PM WORK, AND LEAVE AND TAKE THEIR LIMBS OUT THAT WAY AS WELL
02:17:39PM WITHOUT HAVING TO GO OVER ANYBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY.
02:17:43PM THE OTHER REASON I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT ALLEY OPEN IS
02:17:48PM THERE ARE TIMES THAT I EXIT AND RETURN THROUGH THAT REAR
02:17:55PM GATE WALKING MY DOG.
02:17:57PM OKAY.
02:17:57PM THERE ARE TIMES AFTER A HARD RAIN, THERE IS A LOT OF WATER
02:18:03PM STANDING WATER IN THE FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND INSTEAD OF
02:18:06PM JUMPING THROUGH PUDDLES I GO OUT THAT WAY AND COME BACK THAT
02:18:09PM WAY.
02:18:13PM SO IF THAT ALLEY IS VACATED, I AM GOING TO USE THAT AS AN
02:18:19PM ABILITY TO USE THAT IN THE WAY IN AND OUT NOT MY ONLY IN AND
02:18:26PM OUT BUT I LIKE IT AS A SECONDARY OPTION WHEN I HAVE THE TREE
02:18:31PM TRIMMERS COME IN.
02:18:32PM IT DOESN'T HAPPEN ALL THE TIME, BUT EVERY FEW YEARS I HAVE
02:18:35PM TO DO THAT.
02:18:39PM THE OTHER REASON I AM OPPOSING IT WASTEWATER WANTS AN
02:18:42PM EASEMENT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE IS IT WIDTH OF THE ALLEY.
02:18:49PM EVEN IF THAT LAND BECOMES PART OF MY PROPERTY, IT IS
02:18:52PM UNUSABLE TO ME, AND I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO ADD THAT PIECE
02:19:00PM OF LAND TO MY PROPERTY AND HAVE THAT BECOME PART OF MY
02:19:03PM TAXABLE PROPERTY.
02:19:04PM MY OTHER REASON TO OPPOSING THIS IS ONCE THAT ALLEY IS
02:19:15PM VACATED THAT INCREASES THE SIZE OF EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY ON
02:19:19PM THE BLOCK FROM PENINSULAR AND ON THE FRIBLEY SIDE INCREASING
02:19:27PM DENSITY AND DECREASING THE REAR SETBACKS.
02:19:29PM BECAUSE ONCE THE PROPERTY LINES MOVE FIVE FEET MORE TO THE
02:19:32PM REAR, THAT MEANS PEOPLE CAN BUILD FURTHER TO THE REAR AS
02:19:37PM LONG AS THEY CAN USE THE AREA.
02:19:40PM SO -- AND THAT WOULD STILL NOT AFFECT THE EASEMENT.
02:19:43PM THE EASEMENT WOULD STILL BE THERE.
02:19:46PM BUT RIGHT NOW, I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING BUILT ON
02:19:50PM ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES ANY LARGER THAN WHAT THEY CURRENTLY
02:19:53PM CAN.
02:19:54PM AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING BUILT ANY CLOSER TO THE
02:19:58PM REAR OF THE PROPERTIES THAN WHAT THEY CURRENTLY CAN.
02:20:01PM I KNOW THAT MAY BE GREAT NEWS FOR A BUILDER OR A DEVELOPER
02:20:06PM TO BE ABLE TO SQUEEZE OUT EVERY SQUARE INCH OF THE
02:20:09PM PROPERTIES, BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT TO SEE IT.
02:20:13PM I LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 20 YEARS.
02:20:14PM AND I BOO LIKE TO SEE IT REMAIN AS CLOSE TO AS IS AS
02:20:20PM POSSIBLE AND STILL ABLE TO USE THAT ALLEY AS I NEED TO.
02:20:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:20:27PM >> I WOULD SAY I HAVE SPOKEN TO NEIGHBORS ON EACH SIDE OF ME
02:20:33PM --
02:20:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR TIME IS UP, MA'AM.
02:20:35PM >> OKAY, ALL RIGHT.
02:20:36PM THAT PLENTY MUCH COVERS IT.
02:20:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
02:20:39PM THAT WAS THE ONLY PUBLIC COMMENT.
02:20:40PM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS?
02:20:46PM IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
02:20:48PM OH, I AM SORRY.
02:20:49PM YES, DO YOU HAVE REBUTTAL TO THE APPLICANT?
02:20:56PM ANYTHING ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD?
02:20:58PM >> YOU KNOW, I THINK --
02:21:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, COME UP TO THE LECTERN AND SAY YOUR
02:21:03PM NAME AGAIN.
02:21:03PM >> MY NAME IS CLAIRE PILLARELLI.
02:21:09PM I AM THE APPLICANT.
02:21:09PM MARY AND I SPOKE.
02:21:11PM SHE RECEIVED THE LETTER I SENT OUT.
02:21:15PM I HAVE RESPECT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I DO
02:21:17PM BELIEVE THIS WILL ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT HURT THE
02:21:21PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:21:21PM MY UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THAT BY VACATING THE ALLEY, THE
02:21:25PM ALLEY STILL REMAINS AN EASEMENT.
02:21:27PM BECAUSE AN EASEMENTS, YOU CAN'T BUILD A PERMANENT STRUCTURE
02:21:31PM THERE.
02:21:31PM SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS MAY NOT BE
02:21:34PM IMPACTED BY IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE WILL LEAVE IT UP TO THE
02:21:38PM EXPERTS HERE TO HELP US VALIDATE THAT.
02:21:41PM BUT, YEP, THAT -- YOU KNOW, THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY,
02:21:46PM BUT CERTAINLY CAN GIVE IT THOUGHT.
02:21:47PM YARN IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO COME BACK
02:21:51PM DURING THE SECOND READING OR WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
02:21:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:21:56PM YES, MA'AM.
02:21:57PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:22:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
02:22:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:22:04PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:22:06PM AYE.
02:22:07PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
02:22:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST BECAUSE A NEIGHBOR WANTS TO USE HER
02:22:13PM ALLEY, I AM GOING TO MOVE TO DENY.
02:22:14PM I JUST THINK I NEED TO SAY --
02:22:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
02:22:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DENY VACATING THE ALLEY WEST OF FRIBLEY, WEST
02:22:29PM OF PENINSULAR AND EAST OF MYRTLE AND WEST OF POPLAR AVENUE.
02:22:35PM PACED ON EVIDENCE PRESENTED IN THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT THERE
02:22:38PM ARE CURRENT -- THAT IT WILL CUT OFF AN ABUTTING OWNER'S
02:22:42PM ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY.
02:22:46PM AND THAT IT WON'T SERVE THE GENERAL PUBLIC'S INTEREST.
02:22:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
02:22:53PM CARLSON.
02:22:53PM DISCUSSION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:22:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION
02:22:57PM TO DENY.
02:22:58PM JUST FOR FOLKS THAT COME BEFORE REQUESTING TO VACATE ALLEYS
02:23:02PM IN THE FUTURE, I AM GENERALLY NOT IN SUPPORT OF VACATING
02:23:05PM ALLEYS.
02:23:06PM I THINK THE ALLEYS ARE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CITY
02:23:09PM OF TAMPA.
02:23:09PM I THINK THEY PROVIDE AS WE HEARD FROM TESTIMONY FROM THE
02:23:12PM NEIGHBOR, THEY PROVIDE ACCESS TO PROPERTY AND MULTIUSES.
02:23:15PM THE ONLY TIME I CAN SEE VACATE WILLING ALLEYS IF THEY ARE
02:23:18PM COMPLETELY UNUSABLE.
02:23:19PM IF THEY HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY VACATED BY -- I WILL WITHHOLD
02:23:24PM JUDGMENT WHY THEY WERE VACATED IN THE PAST, PARTIAL
02:23:27PM VACATIONS THAT WE END UP RECTIFYING PAST MISTAKES.
02:23:30PM I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT BUT IN GENERAL I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF
02:23:34PM VACATING ALLEYS AND I WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION TO DENY.
02:23:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:23:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT GOING TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE
02:23:42PM ALLEYS ARE USED FOR OTHER THINGS OTHER THAN PLEASURE AND I
02:23:46PM UNDERSTAND THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT, BUT HAVE BUILDING OR
02:23:49PM WHATEVER -- A SHED THREE OR FIVE FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE
02:23:54PM AND THREE AND FIVE FEET IF IT IS VACATED.
02:23:57PM TEN FOOT WIDE IS NOT WIDE ENOUGH FOR ANY VEHICLE TO GO
02:24:00PM THROUGH OTHER THAN A SMALLER ONE, AND THAT YEAS I -- I THINK
02:24:04PM THAT THE VACATING OF THE ALLEY IS -- IS NOT FEASIBLE TO USE
02:24:09PM FOR ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN CLOSING IT AND THE NEIGHBORS --
02:24:12PM AND NEIGHBORS SHOULD ENJOY IT.
02:24:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
02:24:18PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:24:21PM MOTION TO DENY.
02:24:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
02:24:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:24:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:24:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:24:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:24:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:24:32PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO AND HENDERSON
02:24:36PM BEING ABSENT.
02:24:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:24:39PM ITEM NUMBER 27.
02:24:46PM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, ITEMVA-23-25, VACATING OF SOUTH
02:24:59PM OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AVENUE, GIDDENS, EAST OF CENTRAL.
02:25:03PM AND APPLICANT IS MARVIN HUNT.
02:25:05PM TO VACATE THE EAST AND WEST PORTION OF THE ALLEY LYING NORTH
02:25:09PM OF GIDDENS SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH, EAST CENTRAL AVENUE AND
02:25:13PM WEST OF INTERSTATE 275.
02:25:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER THIS IS IN OLD
02:25:24PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS AND HE RESIDES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND MY
02:25:26PM HUSBAND, TIMOTHY BURKE ACTS AS PRESIDENT OF OLD SEMINOLE
02:25:33PM HEIGHTS AND SENT A LETTER VACATING THIS TO ALL OF US.
02:25:36PM I WANTED TO GO THROUGH WITH MR. SHELBY TO TALK ABOUT WHY I
02:25:39PM WILL REMAIN VOTING ON THIS.
02:25:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN INQUIRE.
02:25:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:25:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IN
02:25:48PM FRONT OF YOU, YOU HAVE NO FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE MATTER?
02:25:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, TOY NOT.
02:25:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO YOUR SPOUSE, DOES YOUR
02:25:55PM SPOUSE HAVE ANY FINANCIAL INTEREST IN REGARDS TO THIS
02:25:57PM MATTER?
02:25:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
02:25:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO EITHER OF YOU HAVE A PROPERTY INTEREST
02:26:01PM ALONG THIS ALLEY?
02:26:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, WE DO NOT.
02:26:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT BEING SAID.
02:26:05PM CAN YOU BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL AND JUDGE THIS ON THE EVIDENCE
02:26:09PM HEARD AT THE HEARINGS?
02:26:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I CAN.
02:26:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
02:26:13PM WITH THAT BEING SAID THEN, IT IS MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION
02:26:16PM THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE THAT YOU PARTICIPATE AND VOTE.
02:26:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:26:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
02:26:22PM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, THE APPLICATION VAC-23-25 WAS
02:26:29PM FILED ON 7-7-23.
02:26:34PM AND THE APPLICANT'S REASON OF THE APPLICATION IS TO BUILD A
02:26:37PM MOTHER-IN-LAW SUITE OF GREEN SPACE TO REDUCE THE CITY'S
02:26:41PM BURDEN AND MAINTENANCE.
02:26:43PM CREATE BY SUBDIVISION PLAT AND EXISTING ALLEY IS
02:26:46PM APPROXIMATELY 2300 SQUARE FEET.
02:26:48PM AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE PROPOSED VACATING IN YELLOW.
02:26:57PM EAST AND WEST PORTION IN THE BLOCK THAT REMAINS.
02:26:59PM APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS IN RED.
02:27:02PM 275 HERE.
02:27:04PM THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION THAT CREATED THE ALLEY.
02:27:12PM AND THIS IS BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION OF I-275 AND STATE ROAD
02:27:19PM 93 AT THE TIME THIS IS -- THE CITY OF TAMPA ATLAS STREET
02:27:29PM SHOWING THE CURRENT RIGHT-OF-WAY LIMITS OF INTERSTATE 275
02:27:33PM HERE, COMPARED TO THE REMAINDER OF THE BLOCK OF THE -- OF
02:27:38PM THAT PLAT BLOCK 2.
02:27:40PM THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED HERE.
02:27:42PM THE EAST AND WEST PORTION MICROSOFT ALLEY OF THAT BLOCK.
02:27:48PM THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY HERE.
02:28:00PM AGAIN THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH PORTION OF THE ALLEY IS HERE.
02:28:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT REMAINS.
02:28:07PM >>ROSS SAMONS: CORRECT.
02:28:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE ON GIDDENS AT THIS POINT LOOKING
02:28:11PM SOUTH.
02:28:12PM >>ROSS SAMONS: LOOKING NORTH.
02:28:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
02:28:15PM >>ROSS SAMONS: THIS IS THE EAST AND WEST.
02:28:18PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST FROM 275 FROM THAT RAMP AT 275.
02:28:22PM THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE ALLEY.
02:28:25PM AGAIN, I -- I GATHERED SOME MORE AERIAL VIEWS FOR YOU TO
02:28:35PM SEE.
02:28:35PM AND THAT IS LOOKING EAST TOWARD 275.
02:28:38PM THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED VACATING
02:28:42PM REQUEST OF THE EAST AND WEST PORTION.
02:28:44PM THIS IS THE NORTH AND SOUTH PORTION HERE.
02:28:48PM THOSE ARE APPROXIMATE LOCATIONS AGAIN.
02:28:53PM ANOTHER AERIAL VIEW.
02:28:56PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST.
02:28:57PM THIS IS ABOVE 275 LOOKING WEST.
02:28:59PM THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE EAST AND WEST ALLEY
02:29:03PM THAT IS REMAINING.
02:29:04PM AND, AGAIN, THE NORTH AND SOUTH PORTION IS HERE.
02:29:07PM STAFF INTO OBJECTION TO THE VACATING REQUEST.
02:29:15PM EASEMENT BY SPECK FORUM ARE DRUM, TECO AND WASTEWATER.
02:29:20PM SPECIAL CONDITIONS INCLUDE NATURAL RESOURCES AND MUST COMPLY
02:29:23PM WITH CHAPTER 27 REGARDING TREE PRESERVATION, SITE DESIGN
02:29:28PM IMPROVEMENTS PLACED ADJACENT TO TREES IN ANY VACATED AREA.
02:29:31PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU
02:29:34PM HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:29:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
02:29:36PM AN APPLICANT FOR THIS ITEM, 72?
02:29:39PM YES, SIR.
02:29:40PM PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
02:29:45PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, THOMAS MILLER, ON BEHALF THE APPLICANT
02:29:49PM MARVIN HUNT.
02:29:50PM WE DID SPEAK TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, BECAUSE WE DID FIELD
02:29:53PM SOME CALLS WHEN WE SENT OUT MAILED OUT THE PAPERWORK AND A
02:30:00PM LOT OF PEOPLE GOT CONFUSED THAT THEY WERE THINKING IT WAS
02:30:03PM THAT NORTH-SOUTH ENTRANCE.
02:30:05PM WE ARE NOT TOUCHING IT.
02:30:06PM JUST THE ONE -- THE ALLEY THAT IS ARE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE
02:30:11PM THREE HOUSES THAT YOU SEE AND A DEAD END CURRENT RECENTLY
02:30:15PM FIVE FOOT HIGH.
02:30:17PM THE SAME ISSUE.
02:30:18PM NOBODY KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT THE CITY AND RESIDENTS
02:30:21PM THEMSELVES AND IT IS NOT BEING USED AND THE APPLICANT JUST
02:30:23PM WANTED GREEN SPACE FOR GARDENING.
02:30:26PM THAT'S IT.
02:30:27PM I'M HERE TO SPEAK WITH THE BUSINESS BEHIND, AND THEY WERE
02:30:31PM FINE WITH THIS, AS LONG AS THEY HAD THAT ACCESS FROM THE
02:30:34PM NORTH AND SOUTH.
02:30:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
02:30:38PM YES, MA'AM.
02:30:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE RECEIVED QUITE A FEW E-MAILS OPPOSING IT
02:30:43PM INCLUDING FROM THE AUTO BODY SHOP OR THE -- OR THE AUTO
02:30:47PM SHOP.
02:30:47PM >> RIGHT.
02:30:47PM AUTO BODY -- AN AUTO SHOP, LIKE A MECHANIC'S SHOP.
02:30:52PM I SPOKE TO THEM.
02:30:53PM I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF.
02:31:01PM >>RON WIGGINTON: RON WIGGINTON.
02:31:04PM I SPOKE TO JASON MARLOWE AND FOR RICHARD'S QUALITY SERVICE
02:31:10PM AND THEY WERE UNDER THE IMPRESSION OF NORTH-SOUTH WALLS
02:31:13PM BEING VACATED.
02:31:14PM WHEN I EXPLAINED EAST-WEST, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION
02:31:18PM AND THEY LEFT.
02:31:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:31:20PM THAT IS THE CLARIFICATION.
02:31:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:31:23PM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM 72?
02:31:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE TO CLOSE --
02:31:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, I HAVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS,
02:31:35PM JASON MARLOWE AND ROBERT BLAKELY.
02:31:37PM OKAY, NO -- I KNOW WE GOT A LOT OF CORRESPONDENCE.
02:31:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
02:31:42PM IS THERE -- DO WE -- STAFF, DO WE HAVE -- MR. SAMONS, DO WE
02:31:48PM HAVE A PHOTO FROM THAT NORTH-SOUTH ALLEY TO LOOK AT THE
02:31:52PM ALLEY?
02:31:53PM BECAUSE YOU SHOWED US THE NORTHERN WHICH MADE US THINK IT
02:31:58PM WAS THE NORTHERN PART.
02:31:59PM YOU SAID IT IS THE EASTERN, WE SAW THE WESTERN SIDE.
02:32:01PM BUT WE DIDN'T SEE THE EASTERN SIDE.
02:32:03PM DO YOU HAVE A PHOTO OF THAT?
02:32:05PM >>ROSS SAMONS: I DO NOT, NO.
02:32:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU DESCRIBE IT TO US AT ALL?
02:32:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE AERIAL.
02:32:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE AERIAL, IS IT COMPLETELY OVERGROWN?
02:32:15PM >>ROSS SAMONS: IT IS.
02:32:16PM LET'S SEE.
02:32:17PM THIS IS -- OKAY, THIS IS LOOKING EAST.
02:32:20PM THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION EAST TO THIS BUILDING.
02:32:26PM FENCE LINE -- YOU EXPECT GOER FOR FENCE LINE FOR PROPERTY
02:32:30PM CORNERS .THIS IS APPROXIMATE LOCATION WHERE THAT ALLEY IS
02:32:34PM AT.
02:32:34PM WITHOUT A SURVEY, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT.
02:32:36PM AND IN THIS GENERAL AREA HERE, WHICH IS THE REASON I WANTED
02:32:40PM TO BRING THIS IMAGE SO YOU CAN SEE THAT.
02:32:44PM THE FENCE COULD BE IN IT.
02:32:46PM THE PORTION OF THIS -- THE AWNING COULD BE IN THE ALLEY.
02:32:51PM AGAIN, I WOULDN'T KNOW THAT.
02:32:54PM IT'S -- IT IS CLEARLY NOT -- IT IS -- IT IS 16 FEET BY PLAT.
02:33:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO CURRENTLY THERE IS -- THE -- THE PEOPLE
02:33:04PM WHO USE THE ALLEY ARE RICHARDS AND THE APPLICANT AND THEN
02:33:09PM THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR, CORRECT?
02:33:12PM >>ROSS SAMONS: CORRECT.
02:33:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY PEOPLE ACCESS TO THE ALLEY.
02:33:17PM >>ROSS SAMONS: USE THE NORTH AND SOUTH.
02:33:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE TALK OF THE EAST AND WEST.
02:33:20PM >>ROSS SAMONS: IT IS UNUSABLE.
02:33:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS UNUSABLE?
02:33:25PM >>ROSS SAMONS: YES.
02:33:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
02:33:27PM DO WE HAVE ANYTHING FROM THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR?
02:33:30PM >>ROSS SAMONS: NO.
02:33:31PM THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I DON'T
02:33:34PM KNOW.
02:33:34PM >> WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY OBJECTIONS.
02:33:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP.
02:33:39PM >> WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING FROM THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR,
02:33:43PM BUT IT IS DEFINITELY UNUSABLE.
02:33:45PM NO ONE IS USING THAT IN AND OUT.
02:33:47PM AND THE -- THE HOMEOWNER NEEDS THAT ACCESS TO THE NORTH AND
02:33:52PM SOUTH HIS AND EVEN TO GET BACK IN THAT PROPERTY AS WELL.
02:33:57PM DON'T WANT TO TOUCH ANYTHING, JUST THAT SMALL PORTION BEHIND
02:34:00PM THE PROPERTY.
02:34:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, THANK YOU.
02:34:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR?
02:34:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AFTER WE CLOSE I WILL COMMENT ABOUT IT.
02:34:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
02:34:08PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
02:34:10PM MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:34:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
02:34:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
02:34:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:34:14PM OPPOSE?
02:34:16PM AYE.
02:34:16PM YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS.
02:34:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN THE RISK OF BEING INCONSISTENT, I WANT
02:34:21PM TO EXPLAIN WHY I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS ONE.
02:34:23PM AS I PREVIOUSLY SAID WITH MY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT PAST, YOU
02:34:27PM KNOW, ISSUES WITH ALLEYS, CLEARLY I-275 DECIMATED THE
02:34:31PM USEFULNESS OF THIS ALLEY WITH THE COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT.
02:34:35PM AND CONFIRM FROM THE ADVOCATE FOR THAT AUTO BODY SHOP, THEY
02:34:40PM WERE CONFUSED BETWEEN THE NORTH-SOUTH FUNCTION AND THE
02:34:43PM EAST-WEST FUNCTION.
02:34:44PM CITY GET THAT CONFIRMATION.
02:34:47PM SO, YOU KNOW, MINIMAL IMPACT.
02:34:49PM THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THE ALLEY HAS BEEN
02:34:52PM DECIMATED AND IT IS NOT USEFUL FOR THE HOMEOWNERS OR THE
02:34:56PM BUSINESS THERE.
02:34:56PM AND YOU ARE STILL GOING TO RETAIN THAT NORTH-SOUTH ALLEY AND
02:35:00PM I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS ISSUE.
02:35:02PM THANK YOU.
02:35:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: INTERESTING FACT A US WE LOOKED AT THE
02:35:05PM OLD PLATTED MAP, THE ROAD THAT USED TO EXIST WHERE 275 IS
02:35:10PM WAS WILSON.
02:35:12PM WAS THE NAME OF THE STREET.
02:35:14PM WILSON AVENUE.
02:35:14PM NOW YOU KNOW FOR TRIVIA NIGHT.
02:35:16PM I KNOW.
02:35:17PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL FOR 72?
02:35:22PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
02:35:24PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:35:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 27, VAC-23-25, ORDINANCE
02:35:29PM BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, ORDINANCE
02:35:32PM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, MAINTAINING CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND
02:35:35PM ABANDONING THE EAST/WEST PORTION OF THE
02:35:37PM ALLEYWAY NORTH OF GIDDENS, SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE,
02:35:41PM EAST OF CENTRAL AVENUE AND WEST OF INTERSTATE 275 WITHIN THE
02:35:44PM PLAT OF EAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF
02:35:48PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION OF
02:35:52PM THERE AND MORE PARTICULARLY SET HEREIN PROVIDING FOR
02:35:56PM ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTY OR VIOLATION, PROCEEDING FOR DEFENSE
02:35:59PM NEGLECTS, INTERPRETATION, REPEALING ALL CONFLICTS, PROVIDING
02:36:01PM FOR SEVERABILITIES, PROVIDING EFFECTIVE DATE.
02:36:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:36:07PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:36:09PM SORRY, DISCUSSION?
02:36:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY HISTORICALLY I AM VERY
02:36:14PM SIMILAR TO COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND I NEVER APPROVE
02:36:17PM VACATIONS THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE USED.
02:36:19PM IN THIS CASE, IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT AN ALLEY
02:36:22PM THAT IS USEABLE FOR TWO OUT OF THE THREE HOMES.
02:36:27PM IN THIS -- TWO OUT OF THE THREE PROPERTIES AND THE
02:36:30PM NORTH-SOUTH ALLEY WILL BE MAINTAINED.
02:36:32PM SO I WILL SUPPORT THIS.
02:36:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
02:36:37PM ALL IN FAVOR.
02:36:38PM FIRST READING.
02:36:40PM >>CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, FEBRUARY 1, 2024 AT
02:36:43PM 9:30 A.M. 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA,
02:36:50PM FLORIDA, 33602.
02:36:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BACK TO ITEM 69 FOR CLARIFICATION.
02:36:57PM >>CATE WELLS: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:36:58PM CATE WELLS WITH THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:37:00PM CONFIRMED ITEM NUMBER 69 THAT THE FOLIO NUMBERS ARE CORRECT
02:37:04PM AND THEY ARE CONSISTENT WITH HOW THE ORDINANCE WAS READ ON
02:37:13PM FIRST READING.
02:37:13PM RELATED COMP PLAN, THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY.
02:37:18PM HOWEVER, THE HEARING ON ITEM 61, FIRST HEARING WAS
02:37:22PM ORIGINALLY SET FOR SEPTEMBER.
02:37:24PM AT THAT TIME, THE ADDRESS WAS CORRECT.
02:37:26PM SO IT WAS PROPERLY NOTICED IN SEPTEMBER.
02:37:29PM WHEN IT WAS THEN -- FIRST READING WAS CONTINUED TO DECEMBER.
02:37:33PM SO WE HAVE CONFIRMED, NOT WITHSTANDING THE DISCREPANCY IN
02:37:38PM THE FOLIO NUMBERS, BOTH THE REZONING AND THE COMP PLAN
02:37:42PM AMENDMENT WERE PROPERLY NOTICED AND ADVERTISED.
02:37:44PM WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT
02:37:47PM ORDINANCE ON ITEM 61, WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU AS A
02:37:52PM SCRIVENER ERROR'S ORDINANCE TO FULLY CORRECT FOLIO NUMBER
02:37:58PM AND LEGALLY NO ISSUES WITH MOVING FORWARD ON SECOND READING
02:38:01PM WITH THE ORDINANCE.
02:38:02PM THANK YOU.
02:38:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WISHES TO READ ITEM 69.
02:38:05PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:38:10PM CLOSE IT.
02:38:12PM MOTION COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:38:14PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN
02:38:15PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:38:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER
02:38:23PM 69, REZ-23-1009 REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY
02:38:27PM OF WEST NORTH 46th STREET FOLIO NUMBERS 140515-1213.
02:38:34PM AND 140515-1215 IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
02:38:40PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN ZONING DISTRICT IH, INDUSTRIAL
02:38:45PM HEAVY TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY,
02:38:52PM MID-RISE AND COMMERCIAL PARKING.
02:38:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
02:38:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
02:38:56PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HENDERSON BEING
02:39:00PM ABSENT.
02:39:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:39:06PM ITEM NUMBER 73.
02:39:09PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:39:11PM SECOND PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT ON FOWLER
02:39:16PM AVENUE ACROSS FROM USF.
02:39:17PM JUST TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY, HB 1339 DEVELOPMENT.
02:39:27PM REVISED FOR A LETTER SENT BEFORE THE FIRST HEARING.
02:39:35PM THE DEVELOPER IS HERE AND I BELIEVE A REPRESENTATIVE
02:39:39PM FROM USF IS HERE.
02:39:40PM AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
02:39:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:39:45PM >> JIM SHIBERG.
02:39:47PM AS OF THIS WEEK WITH THE SHUMAN LAW GROUP CHANNELSIDE DRIVE.
02:39:51PM THANK YOU.
02:39:53PM AS REBECCA MENTIONED, WE DID MAKE CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN
02:39:56PM AT COUNCIL'S REQUEST.
02:39:57PM AND WE HAD SOME CONTINUED DIALOGUE WITH USF.
02:40:01PM AND I KNOW ASSISTANT DEAN IS HERE WANT TO MAKE SOME
02:40:05PM COMMENTS.
02:40:06PM AND WE WANT TO SAY WE ARE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF WHAT THEY ARE
02:40:08PM SAYING AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HOPEFULLY INCORPORATE
02:40:13PM THAT INTO THE RECORD.
02:40:14PM I WILL LET HER SPEAK.
02:40:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
02:40:17PM PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
02:40:19PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS, TERAN SABIA, ASSISTANT
02:40:27PM DEAN FOR RESEARCH REPRESENT THE UNIVERSITY SOUTH FLORIDA.
02:40:33PM UNIVERSITY AS REVIEWED THE SITE PLAN AND HAPPY TO SEE THE
02:40:38PM DENSITY AND DENSITY AND SCALE OF THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
02:40:41PM THE INTENDED USER OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS THE USF COMMUNITY
02:40:46PM AND THEREFORE SAFETY CONCERNS ARE PARAMOUNT TO THE SITE
02:40:49PM DESIGN FOR THE UNIVERSITY.
02:40:50PM THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL SET A PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE DESIGN ON
02:40:55PM FOWLER AVENUE.
02:40:55PM THE SITE IS LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM USF'S MAIN ENTRANCE
02:40:59PM TO CAMPUS.
02:41:00PM AND WEST TO THE ENTRANCE IN FRONT OF THE USF RESEARCH PARK.
02:41:04PM THE BUILDING PLACEMENT, THE SITE DESIGN, WILL BOTH TEAM THE
02:41:09PM ENTRANCES AT ARRIVAL FOR STUDENTS, FACULTY, RESEARCHERS
02:41:13PM VISITORS AND DONORS.
02:41:15PM THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS ALREADY INCORPORATED SOME OF USF'S
02:41:19PM REQUEST REGARDING THE SITE DESIGN AND THE UNIVERSITY WOULD
02:41:22PM LIKE TO OFFER COMMENTS IN THE SPIRIT OF CONTINUED
02:41:29PM COLLABORATION AND SAFETY FOR ITS COMMUNITY.
02:41:30PM THREE KEY COMPONENTS WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPROVED ON THE
02:41:33PM SITE PLAN.
02:41:34PM FIRST IS CONNECTIVITY, WALKABILITY AND TRANSIT CONNECTIONS
02:41:41PM DESIGNING FOR A WALKABLE STRUCTURE WITH A SUBURBAN APARTMENT
02:41:46PM COMPLEX, PROVIDE A CLEAR PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCE ALONG FOWLER
02:41:50PM AND McKINNEY AND THE CROSSWALKS TO ENSURE SAFETY OF
02:41:54PM PEDESTRIANS MOVES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN U.S. AND THE
02:41:58PM UNIVERSITY PARK APARTMENTS.
02:41:59PM ADDITIONAL BICYCLE AND MOBILITY IS NEEDED.
02:42:04PM FOWLER AND McKINLEY IS SIGNIFICANT CORNER AND THE DESIGN
02:42:07PM SHOULD RESPOND TO THE DESIGN CONDITION.
02:42:10PM THE FULL EDGE OF PARKING THAT LINES McKINLEY DOES NOT
02:42:15PM SUPPORT ADEQUATELY THE EXISTING BUS STOP LOCATION.
02:42:21PM AND WE HOPE THAT THE PLAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL
02:42:23PM NOTATE ACCESSION FOR FUTURE TRANSIT MOBILITY CONNECTIONS AT
02:42:28PM THE SOUTH EDGE OF THE SITE.
02:42:29PM THE SECOND STREET EDGE AND BUFFERING.
02:42:32PM WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE TREES RETAIN PROVIDING TREE LINE AT THE
02:42:36PM SIDEWALKS TO SUPPORT SAFETY, COMFORT, SCALE AND A SUSTAINED
02:42:40PM TREE CANOPY.
02:42:41PM THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT SHOWN BETWEEN THE SIDEWALKS DOES NOT
02:42:45PM SUPPORT CONNECTIVE AND LACK LANDSCAPING.
02:42:47PM PEDESTRIAN-SCALED LIGHTING AT THE PERIMETER MUST BE A
02:42:53PM VARIETY AND WATER MANAGEMENT STREET STRUCTURES INTEGRATED AS
02:42:57PM AMENITY INTO THE DESIGN.
02:42:59PM THIRD, THE GROUND FLOOR EXPERIENCE.
02:43:00PM AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDITIONAL RETAIL SQUARE FOOTAGE
02:43:04PM ADDED AT THE GROUND LEVEL TO CREATE A VIBRANT MIXED USE
02:43:09PM ENVIRONMENT.
02:43:09PM THE DEVELOPMENT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CATALYZE A LIVELY
02:43:16PM UNIVERSITY DISTRICT.
02:43:16PM THESE BUILDINGS ARE A GATEWAY OF THE USF.
02:43:21PM DEVELOPING ON FOWLER HAVE SIGNIFICANT AND COMPLEX
02:43:26PM CHALLENGES, ALL EFFORTS TO ACTIVATE A SAFE AND INVITING
02:43:29PM STREET FRONTAGE AND HOPE THAT THE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE
02:43:32PM MEMORIALIZED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
02:43:34PM THANK YOU.
02:43:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF CHANGES.
02:43:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, EXACTLY.
02:43:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR?
02:43:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO THIS IS SECOND READING, AND AN AWFUL LOT
02:43:47PM OF REQUESTS FROM USF APPEARS TO ME THAT THIS WILL HAVE TO BE
02:43:54PM CONTINUED FOR THESE REQUESTED TO BE IN THE SPECIAL
02:43:58PM AGREEMENT.
02:43:59PM YOUR THOUGHTS.
02:44:03PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER.
02:44:05PM WE HAVE BEEN IN DIALOGUE WITH USF SINCE THE LAST HEARING.
02:44:08PM AND FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE BECAUSE MAYBE I
02:44:12PM WAS A LITTLE TOO HASTY BECAUSE WE WERE TRYING GET READY FOR
02:44:14PM LUNCH THE LAST TIME AND RUSHED THROUGH IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT
02:44:17PM IT WAS A LETTER THAT THEY HAD SENT IN.
02:44:19PM WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM.
02:44:23PM FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF THESE THINGS CAN BE DONE DURING THE
02:44:26PM DESIGN OF THE PROJECT AND THE -- THE ADDITIONAL STUFF THAT
02:44:30PM WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH IN ORDER TO -- YOU KNOW, LIKE THE BUS
02:44:34PM STOP, THE RETAIL.
02:44:35PM WE HAVE NOTICED THIS AS 6,000 OR 12,000.
02:44:41PM OUR CLIENT WILL DO EVERYTHING TALK TRY TO MAKE 12,000 WORK.
02:44:44PM HE MOVED SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE GOING TO BE ON
02:44:47PM THE FIRST FLOOR AWAY FROM THAT SITE SO HE CAN HAVE MAXIMUM
02:44:50PM RETAIL.
02:44:50PM BUT WE ARE REALLY CONSCIOUS OF NOT TRYING TO CREATE
02:44:53PM SOMETHING THAT WE WEREN'T PROPOSING.
02:44:56PM I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSION OF USF OF ADDITIONAL RETAIL AND WE
02:45:00PM ARE COMMITTED TO GET UP TO 12,000.
02:45:02PM BUT WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO TRY TO HAVE A REQUIREMENT TO GO
02:45:06PM BEYOND THAT.
02:45:06PM WE NOTICE IT FOR 12,000.
02:45:07PM WE ARE NOT ANXIOUS TO CONTINUE THIS.
02:45:13PM WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THEM AND INCORPORATE THAT INTO
02:45:16PM YOUR APPROVAL WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACK.
02:45:18PM AGAIN, ELVIS, MY CLIENT IS HERE AND HE IS HAPPY TO ADDRESS
02:45:24PM THESE ISSUES.
02:45:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
02:45:26PM THE LAST BITE OF THE APPLE IS THE SECOND READING.
02:45:29PM SO TO HAVE THESE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
02:45:33PM AN EXCITING DEVELOPMENT AND IMPORTANT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND
02:45:37PM NOT ONLY FOR USF BUT THE URBAN PLANNING OF THE CITY OF TAMPA
02:45:41PM AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF FOWLER AVENUE AS THE USF
02:45:45PM REPRESENTATIVE DISCUSSED.
02:45:45PM WE ARE LOOKING AT THESE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS AND
02:45:50PM BUILDING INTENSITY AND FIT IN THE MODEL WHAT THE CITY OF
02:45:53PM TAMPA WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OR TWO.
02:45:56PM I ACTUALLY -- I MEAN, FROM WHAT I HEARD, AN AWFUL LOT OF
02:46:01PM PRODUCTIVE INFORMATION.
02:46:02PM WE CAN'T REALLY GET INTO A NEGOTIATING A PROJECT FROM THIS
02:46:05PM POINT -- FROM THE DAIS TO THE SPEAKERS POEM OUT THERE.
02:46:12PM >> I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
02:46:14PM AGAIN, USF HAS A SCHOOL OF ARCHITECTURE AND URBAN DESIGN AND
02:46:18PM THEY HAVE -- THEY HAVE TREMENDOUS IDEAS AND WE WANT TO WORK
02:46:22PM WITH THEM.
02:46:23PM WHAT ELVIS'S POINT, OBVIOUSLY HE KNOWS THAT USF IS GOING TO
02:46:27PM PROVIDE THE MAJORITY OF HIS RESIDENTS, STUDENTS, FACULTY OR
02:46:33PM STAFF.
02:46:33PM THE PLAN IS TO WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM.
02:46:36PM THIS PROCESS IS REALLY JUST STARTING.
02:46:37PM FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN THEY TALK OF BREAKING UP THE BUILDINGS.
02:46:40PM SOMETHING WE WON'T BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE AND COME BACK IN TWO
02:46:43PM WEEKS AND SAY, FINE, WE DECIDED TO BREAK IT UP TO A WALKABLE
02:46:49PM BLOCK.
02:46:49PM NOT WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.
02:46:50PM EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE SAID, WE CAN INCORPORATE AND
02:46:54PM REFERENCE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT -- AN EXISTING DRAINAGE
02:46:59PM EASEMENT THAT WE WANT TO RELOCATE TO HAVE
02:47:04PM PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY ISSUES.
02:47:05PM WE ADD TO THE SITE PLAN WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE
02:47:09PM PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS AS ACTIVATED AS POSSIBLE TO TRY TO
02:47:13PM ENCOURAGE THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUES THAT USF HAVE RAISED.
02:47:16PM WE ARE 100% SUPPORTED OF IT.
02:47:19PM WE WANT IT TO BE A SAFE REQUIREMENT AND ENCOURAGE THE PEOPLE
02:47:23PM TO BE ABLE TO GET TO CAMPUS SAFELY.
02:47:24PM THE USF BUS WILL STOP THERE AND WORK WITH THEM WITH AS MANY
02:47:30PM SPOTS AS THEY WANT AND I DON'T THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT
02:47:32PM WILL INCORPORATE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF DEVELOPMENT
02:47:35PM AGREEMENT.
02:47:35PM WE ARE JUST STARTING THE PROCESS WITH THE CITY.
02:47:37PM WE HAVE ADDITIONAL HEARING COMING UP -- NOT ON THIS.
02:47:40PM BUT THIS IS LIKE STAGE ONE.
02:47:41PM I AM NOT SURE IF IS YOU CONTINUE IT AND SEND US BACK TO WORK
02:47:46PM WITH THEM WE WILL BE ABLE TO COME BACK WITH SIGNIFICANT
02:47:49PM CHANGES WE CAN'T INCORPORATE OTHERWISE.
02:47:52PM I AM HAPPY TO HAVE ELVIS COME UP AND SPEAK TO YOU FOR A
02:47:55PM MINUTE.
02:47:56PM HE IS THE CLIENT, AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK WITH HIM IN
02:47:58PM TERMS OF WHAT HE IS FOLLOWING DO AND NOT DO.
02:48:00PM >> MY NAME IS ELVIS RAMON.
02:48:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:48:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I ASK STAFF A QUESTION BEFORE WE GO DOWN
02:48:10PM THIS ROAD.
02:48:11PM MISS JOHNS, THIS IS NOT A PD, CORRECT?
02:48:16PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: CORRECT.
02:48:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TODAY WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO, IT
02:48:20PM IS NOT IN STONE.
02:48:21PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: WELL, IT IS IN THAT IT IS A DEVELOPMENT
02:48:23PM AGREEMENT.
02:48:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
02:48:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
02:48:28PM CAN YOU EXPLAIN, THEN, THE DIFFERENCE ON WHAT ACTUALLY COULD
02:48:31PM BE CHANGED?
02:48:33PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: ANYTHING THAT GETS -- SO WHAT THEY ARE
02:48:36PM COMMITTING TO DO SHOULD BE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
02:48:39PM IF THEY MAKE CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN OR ANY OTHER
02:48:45PM OBLIGATIONS THAT THEY HAVE AGREED TO WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT
02:48:47PM AGREEMENT DOWN THE ROAD, THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO COME TO
02:48:50PM BACK AND AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
02:48:52PM WHICH WOULD ENCOMPASS ANOTHER ONE OF THESE HEARINGS OR TWO
02:48:59PM HEARINGS.
02:48:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BASICALLY THIS SORT OF IS A PD IN A WAY.
02:49:05PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT.
02:49:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE LAST BITE FOR US ON THE DEVELOPMENT
02:49:08PM AGREEMENT.
02:49:09PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: HOWEVER, WHAT GOES -- TYPICALLY GOES INTO
02:49:12PM A PD SITE PLAN IS WHAT IS INCORPORATED HERE, BUT THE
02:49:17PM MECHANISM IS AN ACTUAL DEVELOPMENTS AGREEMENT AND NOT A
02:49:22PM REZONING.
02:49:23PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IF
02:49:25PM THEY STOP USING THE PROPERTY FOR THIS USE, THEN THIS GOES
02:49:29PM AWAY.
02:49:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:49:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS WHAT WE GET.
02:49:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:49:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ASK MISS SABIA -- SORRY TO PUT YOU
02:49:39PM ON THE SPOT.
02:49:40PM IT IS USF ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE OR DOES USF SAY YOU CAN
02:49:47PM NEGOTIATE MOST OF THIS WITH THE DEVELOPER IF THIS GETS
02:49:50PM APPROVED TODAY.
02:49:50PM >> USF IS NOT ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE BUT WOULD LIKE
02:49:55PM CONTINUED COLLABORATION WITH THE DEVELOPER.
02:49:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
02:49:58PM >> ONE LAST THING, COUNCIL.
02:50:00PM WE ARE 100% GOING TO CONTINUE TO COOPERATE WITH THEM THROUGH
02:50:04PM THAT PROCESS.
02:50:04PM IN THAT COOPERATION IF IT REQUIRES US TO COME BACK AND AMEND
02:50:07PM SOMETHING, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY DO IT.
02:50:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.
02:50:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE APPLICANT.
02:50:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE IS THE DILEMMA IS THAT -- I MEAN, I
02:50:21PM HEAR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
02:50:21PM BUT LET'S SAY YOU WALK THROUGH THE DOORS -- AND I -- I HAVE
02:50:25PM KNOWN YOU FOR YEARS, AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT THE WAY THIS WILL
02:50:28PM GO, BUT HYPOTHETICALLY BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN WARNED BY CITY
02:50:33PM COUNCIL STAFF TIME AND TIME AGAIN, ONCE WE APPROVE
02:50:37PM SOMETHING, IT IS DONE.
02:50:38PM BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU APPROVE WHEN IT COMES TO THESE THINGS.
02:50:41PM MY CONCERN IS, LET'S SAY YOU WALK OUT THOSE DOORS AND YOU
02:50:47PM SAY THIS IS IT.
02:50:48PM CITY COUNCIL WILL APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
02:50:50PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.
02:50:52PM BYE-BYE.
02:50:55PM THERE IS NO RECOURSE.
02:50:57PM >> FIRST OF ALL, THAT IS A VERY GOOD GENERAL POINT TO HAVE
02:51:00PM AND I AGREE WHAT WITH WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
02:51:03PM IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE LAST
02:51:05PM HEARING, BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DOING A PD AND DOING IT THROUGH
02:51:10PM THE STATE STATUTE TO REQUIRES US 10% AFFORDABLE UNITS AND
02:51:14PM ALL THE REQUIREMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND WE HAVE THE
02:51:17PM SITE PLAN AND THE LANDSCAPING PLAN AS EXHIBITS TO THE
02:51:20PM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE VRB TO ASK
02:51:24PM FOR REMOVAL OF GRAND TREES.
02:51:25PM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A CONTINUAL PROCESS.
02:51:27PM WE WILL BE IN FRONT OF VRB IN SEVERAL MONTHS.
02:51:30PM WE MAY BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU AT SOME TIME.
02:51:32PM WE DON'T KNOW.
02:51:33PM IT IS GOING TO BE A PROCESS.
02:51:36PM USF IS NOT GOING TO SEND THIS BACK AND NEGOTIATE EACH OF
02:51:40PM THESE POINTS.
02:51:41PM THEY WANT US TO COOPERATE WITH THEM WHICH I 100% DO.
02:51:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE USF
02:51:51PM KNOWS THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS NO RECOURSE IN THE FUTURE.
02:51:54PM IT LITERALLY IS UP TO GOOD WILL -- GOOD WISHES AND GOOD
02:51:59PM WILL.
02:51:59PM >> MAY I ANSWER THAT QUESTION?
02:52:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ABSOLUTELY.
02:52:02PM >> MY NAME IS ELVIS RAMON.
02:52:04PM THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT -- AND I SEE YOUR POINT -- IS
02:52:08PM THAT THEIR STUDENTS ARE MY CLIENTS.
02:52:10PM YOU WOULDN'T BITE THE HAND THAT FEED YOU, WOULD YOU.
02:52:13PM SO I HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM.
02:52:16PM AND I WILL WORK WITH THEM.
02:52:18PM NOT LIKE YEAH, I GOT APPROVED, PUT YOU ASIDE, YOU KNOW, AND
02:52:22PM I GO DO MY OWN THING.
02:52:23PM THEIR STUDENTS ARE THE ONES THAT WILL OCCUPY THE SPACE.
02:52:27PM ONLY IN MY BEST INTEREST TO FORM A VERY GOOD ALLIANCE WITH
02:52:31PM THEM, BECAUSE THAT WILL GIVE ME WHAT I NEED, WHICH ARE THE
02:52:34PM TENANTS.
02:52:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION.
02:52:35PM THE INPUT YOU HEARD FROM USF, IS THAT THE FIRST TIME YOU
02:52:42PM HEARD THE INFORMATION.
02:52:43PM >> WE GOT THE LETTER LAST NIGHT.
02:52:45PM BUT WE HAVE BEEN IN DIALOGUE WITH MISS POST SINCE ITS LAST
02:52:48PM HEARING.
02:52:48PM I THOUGHT WE HAD ADDRESSED ALL OF HER COMMENTS, BUT LAST
02:52:52PM NIGHT, WE GOT -- AND VERY NICELY THEY SENT US THIS LETTER
02:52:55PM LAST NIGHT.
02:52:55PM WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ALL DAY.
02:52:58PM AND VERY COLLABORATIVELY.
02:53:00PM WE ARE NOT IN ANY WAY ADVERSE TO WHAT THEY ARE SAYING AND WE
02:53:03PM ARE GOING TO TRY TO INCORPORATE AS MANY OF THEIR SUGGESTIONS
02:53:07PM OF THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT AS POSSIBLE.
02:53:09PM IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL TO AMEND SOMETHING, WE
02:53:12PM WILL 100% DO THAT.
02:53:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, AM I WRONG IN THIS LINE OF
02:53:17PM THINKING?
02:53:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, SIR.
02:53:19PM AND, AGAIN, THIS IS DIFFERENT PROCESS AND MISS JOHNS CAN GO
02:53:22PM INTO IT FURTHER THAN WORKING WITH PDs.
02:53:25PM AND WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT YOU ARE AS A CITY
02:53:28PM COMMITTING TO AND WHAT, AGAIN, YOU RECOURSE IS AND WHAT THE
02:53:33PM ENFORCEABILITY IS WITH REGARD TO THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU ARE
02:53:37PM APPROVING TODAY ON SECOND READING AND THIS MIGHT BE A
02:53:39PM QUESTION FOR MISS JOHNS.
02:53:40PM AND TO NOT WITH REGARD TO WHOEVER PETITIONER IS IRRELEVANT.
02:53:49PM WITH REGARD TO GOOD WILL, THAT IS A GREAT THING TO HAVE AND
02:53:52PM COOPERATION, BUT IN TERMS OF -- FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT, ITS
02:53:56PM ENFORCEABILITY.
02:53:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE WAY I SEE THIS, IF COUNCIL PASS THIS
02:54:01PM TODAY THEY WILL BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH THE AGREEMENT AS IT IS
02:54:04PM WRITTEN TODAY.
02:54:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF WHAT THE
02:54:07PM CONSEQUENCES WILL BE WITH CERTAINTY AT THIS POINT IN TIME,
02:54:09PM THEN WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT HAVING
02:54:12PM CERTAINTY WHAT WILL ULTIMATELY HAPPEN DOWN THE ROAD.
02:54:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS TO
02:54:17PM HAVE MORE DISCUSSION.
02:54:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS THE DISCUSSION OF COUNCIL.
02:54:21PM THAT IS THE PREROGATIVE.
02:54:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I LOOK AT IT AS A MARRIAGE.
02:54:25PM BOTH OF THEM WANTS TO GET MARRIED BUT DIFFERENCES FROM WHAT
02:54:29PM I HEARD AND, YES, I WANT -- I WANT WHAT THEY WANT.
02:54:32PM >> IF I MAY --
02:54:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, YES, BUT WHAT I AM THINKING OF,
02:54:38PM THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE IRONED OUT WAY BEFORE THESE THINGS
02:54:41PM COME BEFORE US.
02:54:42PM BECAUSE IF NOT, TWO PARTIES HAVE TO AGREE TO MAKE A CHANGE.
02:54:47PM IF ONE PARTY DOESN'T AGREE AND THE CHANGE IS ALREADY MADE,
02:54:51PM IT WILL NOT BE CHANGED.
02:54:52PM THAT IS MY OPINION.
02:54:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR.
02:54:58PM >> IF I MAY SAY, I DON'T THINK THEY ARE OPPOSING TO THE
02:55:00PM DENSITY, THE HEIGHT.
02:55:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T SAY THEY WERE.
02:55:03PM >> THE WAY THE PROPERTY LOOKS.
02:55:05PM I MEAN, WE ARE JUST TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE OUTSIDE
02:55:09PM LOOK OF THE ASSET.
02:55:10PM AND WHAT YOU ARE APPROVING TODAY IS SEVEN STORIES, 75 FEET,
02:55:17PM OVER MILLION SQUARE FEET.
02:55:19PM AND WITH A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PARKING.
02:55:21PM THEY ARE NOT IN DISAGREEMENT WITH ANY OF THIS.
02:55:25PM ALL WE HAVE IS THAT THEY WANT THE LOOK OF THE FRONT OF THE
02:55:29PM PROPERTY TO BE A SPECIFIC WAY.
02:55:30PM SINCE THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE SEE WHEN THEY COME TO USF.
02:55:34PM THAT HAS TO DO MORE WITH THE COSMETICS OF THE LOOK THAN WITH
02:55:39PM THE -- THAN WHAT WE ARE APPROVING HERE TODAY WHICH IS SEVEN
02:55:42PM STORIES, 75 FEET.
02:55:45PM YOU CAN ASK HER.
02:55:46PM 627 UNITS.
02:55:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SHE IS COMING UP.
02:55:49PM >> OVERALL DENSITY, THE SCALE, THE INTENSITY OF THE
02:55:59PM PROJECT, USF IS REALLY HAPPY WITH THAT PART OF THE SITE
02:56:02PM PLAN.
02:56:03PM SO WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ARE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL SITE
02:56:10PM CONNECTIONS THAT WOULD YOU FIND.
02:56:13PM IN TERMS OF THAT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND ENSURING THAT THAT
02:56:16PM PEDESTRIAN ACCESS IS ADEQUATE TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO BOTH
02:56:20PM THE EXISTING TRANSIT AND FUTURE TRANSIT, AND TO MAKE SURE
02:56:24PM THAT PEDESTRIANS HAVE SAFE PASSAGE BETWEEN THE CROSSWALKS.
02:56:30PM WE -- FOWLER IS A DANGEROUS STREET AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.
02:56:33PM AND WE ARE HOPING THAT WE CAN DIRECT PEDESTRIANS TO UTILIZE
02:56:38PM THE TWO CROSSWALKS THAT WILL BE AT EITHER END OF THIS
02:56:41PM PROJECT.
02:56:42PM SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE SITE CONDITIONS THAT WE ARE REALLY
02:56:47PM LOOKING FOR TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE SAFETY ELEMENTS ARE MET
02:56:51PM WITHIN THE SITE PLAN.
02:56:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MISS JOHNS?
02:56:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:56:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT -- THOSE AREN'T THE
02:57:02PM ISSUE I AM AS CONCERNED ABOUT.
02:57:06PM IT IS THE -- IN MY OPINION, REALLY NO DIFFERENCE OF 6,000
02:57:11PM VERSUS 12,000 RETAIL SQUARE FEET.
02:57:13PM AND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING -- WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THEY CAN DO
02:57:18PM EITHER-OR OR SOMETHING IN BETWEEN.
02:57:19PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THEY CAN DO SOMETHING IN BETWEEN.
02:57:23PM I MEAN THEY CAN DO EITHER-OR.
02:57:25PM BUT THEY WILL BE APPROVED UP TO 12,000.
02:57:27PM THEY HAVE TO DO AT LEAST 6,000.
02:57:31PM THEY CAN DO SIX OR 12 OR SOMETHING.
02:57:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 6,000 IS NOT BIG AT ALL WHEN IT COMES TO
02:57:38PM RETAIL FOR SUCH A LARGE CORRIDOR.
02:57:40PM SO THAT -- THAT -- YEAH, I -- I AM STARTING TO -- IT'S --
02:57:46PM THERE IS JUST STILL A LOT -- OUR FIRST 1339.
02:57:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN'T GET INTO AND WHAT WE ARE ALREADY
02:57:56PM IN, WE CAN'T BE NEGOTIATING A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FROM THE
02:57:59PM DAIS, SO I THINK THE WISEST THING ON THIS IS TO CONTINUE
02:58:04PM THIS, LET YOU ALL WORK OUT THESE ISSUES AND BRING BACK AN
02:58:08PM AGREED OPINION TO FINISHED PROJECT FOR THIS.
02:58:11PM YOU ALREADY SEE YOU WILL HAVE A RECEPTIVE AUDIENCE WHEN YOU
02:58:15PM COME HERE ONCE YOU HAVE THE AGREEMENT.
02:58:16PM EVERYBODY IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
02:58:18PM I THINK A WORTHY DEVELOPMENT.
02:58:20PM LET'S GET IT RIGHT BECAUSE WE ONLY GET ONE SHOT OF GETTING
02:58:25PM THIS THING RIGHT.
02:58:25PM AND LET'S BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
02:58:27PM SO I MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS.
02:58:30PM AND DO YOU GUYS HAVE A DATE YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER?
02:58:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE --
02:58:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU MIGHT WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM IF THEY
02:58:40PM AGREE OR WANT AN UP AND DOWN VOTE.
02:58:43PM >> WE ARE NOT STUPID, MARTY.
02:58:45PM [LAUGHTER]
02:58:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ASSUMED NOT.
02:58:49PM >> CAN WE SPEAK TO THE CONTINUANCE?
02:58:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
02:58:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:58:56PM YES, SIR.
02:58:57PM TURN ON YOUR MIC.
02:58:58PM >> THEY NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU NEED.
02:59:10PM >> ALL DEPENDS.
02:59:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN SET IT FOR YOU.
02:59:17PM >> WE GOT TO GET IT TO YOU --
02:59:20PM >> SITE PLAN.
02:59:20PM WE CAN REDO A SITE PLAN IN A WEEK BUT --
02:59:26PM >> NOT GOING TO TAKE US AND THEM LONG.
02:59:28PM WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S COMMENT -- THIS WANTS 12,000
02:59:33PM SQUARE FEET.
02:59:34PM >> SHE WANTS 12,000.
02:59:35PM >> AND I AM ACTUALLY -- THE WAY I AM SETTING IT UP WILL GIVE
02:59:40PM 12,000 SQUARE FEET.
02:59:41PM >> WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
02:59:42PM WE CAN COME UP WITH LANGUAGE THAT I THINK WILL SATISFY USF.
02:59:45PM WE DON'T THINK WE NEED VERY MUCH TIME.
02:59:48PM >>REBECCA JOHNS: I WILL NEED FOR THE PURPOSE TWO WEEKS
02:59:52PM BEFORE THE HEARING TO BE IN ON THIS.
02:59:53PM AND THEN GIVE ME A WEEK BEFORE THAT.
02:59:56PM SO I WOULD LIKE THREE WEEKS ONCE YOU -- ONCE YOU COME TO
03:00:00PM THAT THAT.
03:00:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT DO WE HAVE IN FEBRUARY.
03:00:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FEBRUARY 14, 15.
03:00:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ISN'T THAT A BUSY DAY -- FEBRUARY 15
03:00:10PM AMENABLE?
03:00:13PM >> THAT'S FINE.
03:00:14PM OKAY.
03:00:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS --
03:00:18PM >> SORRY, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, CAN I ASK THAT THE LETTER THAT
03:00:21PM YOU SUBMITTED, THAT YOU READ BECAUSE I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT.
03:00:23PM IF YOU CAN PUT THAT IN THE RECORD?
03:00:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:00:27PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE LETTER.
03:00:31PM YEAH, WE ARE -- WE ARE GOING A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE
03:00:37PM THIS LETTER.
03:00:38PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:00:39PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:00:41PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:00:42PM THAT IS JUST TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
03:00:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE FILE
03:00:50PM NUMBER DA 23-1816 TO FEBRUARY 15.
03:00:57PM 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD, 10:30 A.M. ON FEBRUARY 15.
03:01:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FOR THE CONTINUANCE.
03:01:08PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
03:01:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECONDS.
03:01:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOLD IT AT THAT.
03:01:12PM ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON THE CONTINUANCE.
03:01:15PM >> I AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
03:01:17PM I AM IN FAVOR OF THE CONTINUANCE.
03:01:18PM I JUST HEARD THEM TALK OF TAKING OUT GRAND TREES.
03:01:21PM I HEARD THEM TALKING OF VARIANCES TO TAKE OUT GRAND TREES.
03:01:25PM I HAVE A LOT MORE FAITH -- THIS IS NOT A PD WHICH IS A
03:01:30PM CONCERN TO ME.
03:01:30PM SEEMS TO ME CIRCUMVENTING THE REZONING PROCESS.
03:01:34PM I HAVE MORE FAITH OF CITY COUNCIL FOR DECIDING THINGS LIKE
03:01:38PM THAT WITH THE REMOVAL OF GRAND TREES.
03:01:39PM I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND THE LEGALITIES OF IT.
03:01:42PM I DON'T THINK THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD DOES.
03:01:45PM I WOULD MUCH RATHER THIS COME BEFORE YOU THAN THE VARIANCE
03:01:49PM REVIEW BOARD AND I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS CONTINUANCE.
03:01:52PM THANK YOU.
03:01:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS
03:01:54PM CONTINUANCE.
03:01:55PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR, WHAT CARROLL ANN SAYS.
03:02:02PM AS NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, YOU CAN'T COME BACK THE NIGHT
03:02:05PM BEFORE AND SAY YOU WANT THESE CHANGES.
03:02:07PM IT IS NOT OKAY.
03:02:08PM IT IS NOT OKAY.
03:02:09PM IF USF IS THE NEIGHBOR, THEY CAN'T COME BACK THE NIGHT
03:02:13PM BEFORE AND SAY THEY WANT CHANGES AND EXPECT COUNCIL TO
03:02:17PM EXPECT THESE FOLKS TO -- OH -- MAYBE DOCTOR PRODUCE THEM.
03:02:22PM IT'S NOT OKAY.
03:02:23PM NEIGHBORS NEED TO GIVE THE DEVELOPERS ADEQUATE TIME TO MAKE
03:02:27PM THOSE ADJUSTMENTS TOO.
03:02:28PM THANK YOU.
03:02:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:02:30PM ANYBODY ELSE.
03:02:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
03:02:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM FROM --
03:02:35PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN TO CONTINUE -- WHO WAS THE
03:02:38PM SECOND.
03:02:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:02:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA TO
03:02:42PM FEBRUARY 15.
03:02:42PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:02:43PM OPPOSE?
03:02:44PM ITEM IS CONTINUED.
03:02:45PM ITEM NUMBER 74.
03:02:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:02:54PM I DON'T KNOW IF 74 WILL TAKE A WHILE.
03:02:56PM AFTER 74, WITH WE HEAR THE HIVE.
03:03:00PM WAS THAT ADMINISTRATION UPDATE FIRST?
03:03:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT A MINUTE.
03:03:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN DO BEFORE ADMINISTRATIVE.
03:03:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF WE CAN HEAR THE LIVE --
03:03:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIRST ON THE STAFF REPORT.
03:03:13PM YES, SIR, PLEASE GO AHEAD WITH 74.
03:03:15PM >> LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:03:19PM THIS IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT OF THE 2024 CYCLE.
03:03:22PM THOSE WHO KNOW ME KNOW THIS WILL NOT TAKE LONG UNLESS THERE
03:03:26PM ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
03:03:27PM I AM GOING TO GO AHEAD AND REVIEW WHAT WAS OFFERED, OF WHAT
03:03:32PM WE HAVE DISCUSSED.
03:03:32PM IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT AS I GO
03:03:36PM THROUGH EACH OF THE DIFFERENT TEXT AMENDMENTS.
03:03:38PM FIRST ONE WAS A CHANGE TO CHAPTER 27, ARTICLE C, THE CDC
03:03:48PM REQUIREMENTS.
03:03:48PM IF YOU WERE FAMILIAR WITH DOWNTOWN, STREET TYPES A, B, AND
03:03:55PM C.
03:03:55PM THIS REQUIREMENT IS FOR STREET TYPE C, WHICH IS COMING IN
03:04:00PM COMPLIANCE WITH THE FDOT REQUIREMENTS FOR A FOUR-FOOT-WIDE
03:04:05PM SIDEWALK TO A FIVE-FOOT-WIDE SIDEWALK TO THE OVERALL
03:04:08PM PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES 11 FEET WIDE.
03:04:14PM CHANGING THE SCORING PATTERNS ON TYPE B STREETS MORE IN
03:04:19PM COMPLIANT WITH ADA REQUIREMENTS THE SECOND QR FOR 271 AND
03:04:28PM 330.
03:04:28PM THAT WHERE IS TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE IN THE CODE THAT IS NOT --
03:04:33PM IN SOME OF THE DISTRICTS BUT NOT ALL THAT WHEN THERE IS A
03:04:36PM CONFLICT BETWEEN EITHER THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE
03:04:40PM HISTORIC DISTRICT AND ANOTHER SECTION OF THE CODE, THAT THEY
03:04:43PM ARE MORE RESTRICTIVE.
03:04:45PM THIS EFFECTS -- THE SECTION THAT EFFECTS YBOR CITY, SEMINOLE
03:04:51PM HEIGHTS AND THE DESIGN STANDARDS FOR TAMPA HEIGHTS,
03:04:55PM SEMINOLE, HYDE PARK AND YBOR CITY.
03:04:57PM THE NEXT CHANGE WAS -- A CHANGE TO 27-50.
03:05:02PM AND THIS CASE, IF THERE IS A -- A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT
03:05:05PM COUPLED WITH A REZONING.
03:05:07PM AND THE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT IS DENIED BY COUNCIL, THE
03:05:11PM REZONING IS AUTOMATICALLY WITHDRAWN.
03:05:15PM YOU CAN'T MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE THE COMPATIBILITY ISSUE WITH
03:05:18PM THE COMP PLAN WILL NOT BE THERE.
03:05:19PM THE NEXT ONE IS A CONSISTENCY IN THE -- 27-21 WHICH IS THE
03:05:25PM CONSISTENCY MATRIX FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND REFERENCES
03:05:28PM THE 2015 COMP PLAN, NOW UNDER THE 2035 COMP PLAN AND WORKING
03:05:34PM 2035 COMP PLAN REMOVING THE DATE AND SAYING COMPREHENSIVE
03:05:38PM PLAN.
03:05:39PM 27-287.25 WHICH IS A CHANGE IN THE CODE RIGHT NOW WHICH IS
03:05:47PM A, QUOTE, DANGEROUS TREE.
03:05:49PM IT HAS -- THE VIOLAITON HAS TO BE CITED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT.
03:05:52PM THIS PUTS THIS IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S PURVIEW WHERE
03:05:58PM THE ACTUAL EXAMINERS ARE HOUSED THAT THEY CAN CITE SOMEONE
03:06:02PM WITHOUT HAVING TO GO -- MORE OF A STREAMLINE OF THE PROCESS
03:06:06PM INSTEAD OF CONTACTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND FIGHT THE INDIVIDUAL.
03:06:09PM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WITH THEIR INSPECTORS CAN CITE
03:06:12PM SOMEBODY DIRECTLY 27-283.11, VEHICLE PARKING.
03:06:22PM CAME BACK IN AUGUST OF 2022 TO CHANGE THE CODE.
03:06:26PM IT TURNS OUT WE ARE MAKING IT A LITTLE MORE LIBERAL SO
03:06:29PM PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORK VANS AND STUFF CAN GO HOME AND PARK
03:06:34PM THEIR VEHICLES.
03:06:35PM IT TURNS OUT THE SEMI TRUCK BELIEVE IT OR NOT IS THE SAME
03:06:39PM WIDTH OF A FORD 350.
03:06:41PM NEVER CONTEMPLATED BY STAFF.
03:06:44PM TURNS OUT THAT ALL TRUCKS -- NO VEHICLES CAN BE WIDER THAN
03:06:48PM EIGHT AND A HALF FEET BECAUSE OF THE WIDTH OF A STREET ON A
03:06:52PM FEDERAL HIGHWAY -- A LANE ON THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY.
03:06:56PM 27-149 THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE COUPLED WITH THE --
03:07:00PM EXPANSION FROM 250 TO 300 FOR THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE
03:07:05PM DISTANCE, AND THE NOTICE OF FILING.
03:07:10PM ABBY AND I WERE HERE AND HAD THE QR CODE ON THE SIGNS.
03:07:13PM ADD THAT TO THE LETTERS AND PART OF THE OVERALL PROCESS.
03:07:17PM LAST ONE 27 -- ACTUALLY THE WRONG TO CODE SECTION, 27-199 IN
03:07:26PM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT FROM ZONING FLORIDA 06 FEET TO 175.
03:07:35PM COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
03:07:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:07:38PM I WAS BRIEFED ON THIS AND MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED.
03:07:41PM THE BIGGEST THING WAS IN REGARDS TO COMMUNICATION THAT WE
03:07:44PM RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC WAS THE NOTICE YEAR EXPANSION 300
03:07:52PM FEET TO 250.
03:07:53PM PEOPLE IN SUPPORT.
03:07:54PM I DIDN'T SEE A SINGLE E-MAIL AGAINST IT.
03:07:57PM WHAT I WILL ENCOURAGE IS NOW THAT THE NOTICE AREA WILL BE
03:08:02PM EXPANDED THAT MORE PEOPLE DO GET INVOLVED.
03:08:04PM SOMETIMES -- I HAVE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THAT A
03:08:07PM DEVELOPER WILL SAY, WELL, WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM ANYBODY.
03:08:09PM AND A MILLION PEOPLE SHOW UP AT A HEARING.
03:08:12PM I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE -- AND I THINK TAMPA IS CHANGING BECAUSE,
03:08:16PM YOU THOUGH, WITH T.H.A.N., AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION,
03:08:20PM PEOPLE ARE GETTING MORE INVOLVED AND THE COMMUNICATION IS
03:08:22PM BETTER AND I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOW THAT THE NOTICE IS A
03:08:25PM BIGGER AREA -- WOULD BE A BIGGER AREA SHOULD WE APPROVE THIS
03:08:29PM THEY GET THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED AND MEET WITH THE
03:08:32PM DEVELOPERS AHEAD OF TIME AND POSSIBLY WORK THINGS OUT AND
03:08:35PM THAT'S IT.
03:08:35PM I THINK THIS IS -- THIS IS GOOD.
03:08:37PM ANOTHER QUESTION WE HAVE IS REGARDING THE COMMERCIAL
03:08:40PM VEHICLES.
03:08:41PM >> YES, SIR.
03:08:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BY SIZE?
03:08:46PM BY FEET?
03:08:46PM I SAW A WORK VAN.
03:08:47PM LIKE AIR CONDITIONING REPAIR, FOR EXAMPLE, VAN ON THE LEFT.
03:08:52PM NOT SAYING IT WAS THE IMAGE.
03:08:54PM TRACTOR-TRAILER OR SEMI THAT PULLS THE THINGS.
03:08:57PM WOULD A F-150 IN VIOLATION PARKED IN A DRIVEWAY.
03:09:02PM ARE YOU SAYING THE STYLE.
03:09:04PM >> CHANGING IT TO INCLUDE FOUR ITEMS.
03:09:06PM WIDTH AND LENGTH ARE CURRENTLY IN CODE 9.
03:09:10PM CHANGING TO INCLUDE THE HEIGHT WHICH IS 10 FEET.
03:09:12PM AND WE ARE INCLUDING GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT NO MORE THAN
03:09:19PM 150,000 SQUARE FEET.
03:09:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE F-150.
03:09:24PM >> THIS ONLY APPLIES TO COMMERCIAL VEHICLES.
03:09:27PM SO --
03:09:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR ME, PERFECT TRUCK IS F-150.
03:09:34PM RANGER, COLORADO -- WHAT DO YOU HAVE?
03:09:36PM COLORADO.
03:09:36PM PEOPLE HAVE BIG TRUCKS.
03:09:37PM WE WERE IN THAT.
03:09:38PM I DON'T WANT TO SEE FOLKS GET CITED ON A PERSONAL VEHICLES.
03:09:42PM THAT MAKES SENSE.
03:09:44PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:09:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE THING WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED.
03:09:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:09:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT'S THE WEIGHT.
03:09:52PM >> WE HAVE INCLUDED GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT.
03:10:08PM >>THE ENGINE ALONE.
03:10:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:10:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SAY THIS HAS COME BEFORE US OVER AND
03:10:19PM OVER AGAIN.
03:10:19PM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME YOU HAVE TAKEN WITH THIS
03:10:22PM AND THE TIME YOU HAVE TAKEN WITH THE YOU CAN LIKE TO GO
03:10:25PM THROUGH THESE AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THEM.
03:10:28PM BY THE TIME THEY COME TO US BY FIRST READING WE UNDERSTAND
03:10:31PM BY FIRST REAL READING.
03:10:33PM I WANT TO THANK YOU AND ALL THE STAFF IS THAT WORKED ON
03:10:37PM THIS.
03:10:37PM >> THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE STAFF.
03:10:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
03:10:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE PURPOSE OF CLARIFICATION, ITEM 74,
03:10:45PM THIS ITEM IS A LEGISLATIVE MATTER AND NOT QUASI-JUDICIAL.
03:10:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:10:49PM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
03:10:51PM IF NO, NOT GO TO THE PUBLIC FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:10:54PM ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 74.
03:11:03PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, STEVE MICHELINI, CHAIRMAN OF THE
03:11:08PM GOVERNMENT AMOUNT AFFAIRS COMMITTEE AND WE WORKED WITH STAFF
03:11:11PM AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS REGARDING THE PROPOSED
03:11:14PM CHANGES.
03:11:14PM AND WE ARE HERE IN SUPPORT OF THOSE CHANGES.
03:11:22PM ONE ADVISORY COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TWO DIFFERENT ONES.
03:11:31PM ONE ON FILING AND ONE ON THE SETTING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
03:11:34PM ONCE YOU DO THAT, IT IS IMPORTANT TO GET INPUT OF THE
03:11:43PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SO WE DON'T GET COMMENTS ON THE
03:11:49PM LAST MINUTE AND THEN HAVE CONTINUANCES BECAUSE WE CAN'T MAKE
03:11:52PM CHANGES ON SOME OF THESE PLANS AT THE LAST MINUTE.
03:11:56PM STEPHANIE POYNOR POINTED THAT OUT JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO,
03:12:02PM OBLIGATION ON BOTH SIDES, ITS PETITIONER AND THOSE RECEIVING
03:12:05PM THE NOTICE.
03:12:05PM I DON'T LIKE COMING UP TO YOU SAY I NEED A CONTINUANCE
03:12:16PM BECAUSE.
03:12:16PM A DOZEN PEOPLE OR 10 OR 20 PEOPLE SAYING WE HAVE CONCERNS
03:12:25PM ABOUT THIS AND WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
03:12:26PM THOSE COMMENTS NEED TO COME US TO IN A TIMELY MANNER.
03:12:33PM WE SET THE 300 FEET ON THE SIZE OF THE SIGN.
03:12:39PM WE SET TWO NOTICES FOR THE SPECIAL USES AND ACTIONS FOR
03:12:44PM REZONINGS.
03:12:50PM WE URGE TO YOU CAUTION THOSE NEXT COME IN AT THE LAST MINUTE
03:12:54PM PLENTY OF TIME TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS THAT DON'T MAKE US
03:12:56PM COME AND ASK YOU FOR CONTINUANCES AT THE LAST MINUTE.
03:12:59PM THE BUILDING ASSOCIATION IS SUPPORTIVE OF THESE CHANGES AND
03:13:08PM COMPROMISES AND URGE TO YOU SUPPORT IT AND PASS IT.
03:13:14PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:13:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER.
03:13:17PM >> I AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF T.H.A.N.
03:13:21PM THE FIRST TIME I MET STEPHANIE POYNOR LATE 2019.
03:13:26PM UP WITH THING SHE COMPLAINED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE
03:13:30PM GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT EVER
03:13:32PM SINCE.
03:13:32PM AT ONE POINT I SAT DOWN AND REWROTE IT AND I MET WITH ALL
03:13:36PM THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE WANTED.
03:13:45PM AFTER THAT WORKED WITH LAND USE ATTORNEY, CITY STAFF AND
03:13:48PM LEGAL.
03:13:49PM EVERY TIME WE MET WITH SOMEONE WE TWEAKED IT, TWEAKED IT,
03:13:52PM AND TWEAKED IT.
03:13:53PM I THINK THIS IS A GOOD PRODUCT THAT EVERYBODY COULD AGREE
03:13:56PM ON.
03:13:56PM A REALLY GOOD SITUATION.
03:14:02PM OF THE DIFFERENCES OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, ST. PETE,
03:14:06PM HILLSBOROUGH, JACKSON, ORLANDO, MIAMI, BROWARD, TALLAHASSEE.
03:14:10PM THEY ALL HAVE THE LOWEST THEY HAVE IS 300 FEET SO BELOW
03:14:18PM THAT, AN ABNORMAL AREA.
03:14:22PM THE NOTICE OF FILING IS AN EXCELLENT THING BECAUSE IT GIVES.
03:14:27PM USED TO HEAR FROM NEIGHBORHOODS ALL THE TIME.
03:14:31PM 30 DAY IS NOT ENOUGH TIME.
03:14:33PM WE MAY NOT GET IT 30 DAYS.
03:14:35PM TAKES TIME TO GET THERE AND SOMEBODY -- THE -- DOESN'T OPEN
03:14:39PM HIS MAIL.
03:14:39PM IT IS NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE WITH BUSY LIVES TO GET
03:14:42PM TOGETHER.
03:14:42PM TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEY THINK.
03:14:44PM AND THEN TRY TO MEET WITH THE BUILDER.
03:14:46PM WE THINK THIS WILL MAKE THE WHOLE THING A WHOLE LOT BETTER
03:14:49PM AND WE ARE PLEASED WITH IT AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE YES
03:14:52PM BECAUSE ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE IN SUPPORT OF IT.
03:14:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
03:14:56PM NEXT SPEAKER STATE YOUR NAME.
03:14:57PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:14:58PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
03:15:01PM I AM THE PRESIDENT OF T.H.A.N.
03:15:02PM SPEAKING AS THE PRESIDENT OF T.H.A.N. AND STEPHANIE
03:15:08PM POYNOR, GENERAL PAIN IN YOUR BEHIND.
03:15:10PM THE GENERAL THING IS THIS IS A GOOD THING.
03:15:13PM 37 THE BEST IN YEARS BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE INPUT ON IT
03:15:17PM AND SO MANY PEOPLE -- WHAT CARROLL ANNE AND I ORIGINAL
03:15:21PM PROPOSED ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO IS NOT WHAT THIS LOOK LIKE
03:15:24PM TODAY.
03:15:26PM WE WOULD LIKE LARGER NOTIFICATION AREA, BUT
03:15:31PM YOU KNOW WHAT, WE DIDN'T THINK OF THE NOTICE OF FILING FROM
03:15:36PM THE BUILDERS ASSOCIATION AND WE WERE TICKLED PINK TO GET IT.
03:15:38PM THE ONLY THING THAT I EVEN HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH WHATSOEVER
03:15:42PM IS JUST SAYS THE MINIMUM OF THE 18 X 24 SIGNS, AND WE WILL
03:15:48PM TRUST STAFF ON THAT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO GET BIGGER
03:15:51PM BECAUSE ABBYE AND ERIC CAME AND SHOWED IT TO US LARGER.
03:15:54PM I SUPPORT THE CHANGE IN THE TREE CODE AS WELL.
03:15:58PM BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE ARE OVERLAPPING
03:16:01PM WORK.
03:16:02PM IT IS MAKING MORE WORK FOR THE CITY.
03:16:04PM SO ABSOLUTELY WE NEED TO DO THAT.
03:16:06PM THE TRUCKS IN THE FRONT YARD, SORRY, WE -- SOMETIMES YOU
03:16:09PM DON'T GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.
03:16:11PM BUT THEY HAVE OBVIOUSLY CLEANED IT UP.
03:16:14PM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ASK YOU THAT
03:16:18PM IF WE ARE APPOINTING PEOPLE TO THE VRB, TO THE -- TO THE --
03:16:23PM WHAT IS IT CALLED, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TO ANY OF THESE
03:16:26PM BOARDS, THAT THEY SIGN A STATEMENT THAT THEY HAVE ACTUALLY
03:16:29PM READ THE POLICIES THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE UPHOLDING,
03:16:32PM BECAUSE IT IS EXTREMELY OBVIOUS THAT SOME OF THEM AREN'T
03:16:36PM READING THEM AND NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES.
03:16:38PM THANK YOU.
03:16:39PM HAVE A NICE DAY.
03:16:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK?
03:16:43PM IF NOT -- YES, SIR.
03:16:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: STRANGE REQUEST, BUT -- THE ATTORNEY FROM
03:16:48PM STEARNS WEAVER ELISE BATSEL SENT ME A MESSAGE AND ASKED ME
03:16:53PM TO READ IT BEFORE COUNCIL MEETING.
03:16:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY?
03:16:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU ARE OKAY I WILL READ IT INTO THE
03:17:00PM RECORD.
03:17:00PM >SURE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE -- IF YOU CAN MAYBE
03:17:04PM HAVE IT PRINTED AND OUT IF T INTO THE RECORD OR FORWARD IT
03:17:07PM THROUGH YOUR E-MAIL.
03:17:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:17:09PM SHE SAID, GOOD MORNING.
03:17:11PM I WAS PLANNING ON BEING AT CITY COUNCIL TO ADAMANTLY SUPPORT
03:17:17PM CHANGES BUT I HAVE A CLIENT EMERGENCY, AND I WANTED TO SHARE
03:17:20PM MY THOUGHTS SO YOU CAN SHARE THEM ON THE RECORD.
03:17:22PM CITY STAFF, T.H.A.N. REPRESENTATIVES AND REPRESENTATIVES OF
03:17:27PM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY INCLUDING MYSELF AND KAMI CORBETT
03:17:31PM MET NUMEROUS TIMES OVER SEVERAL MONTHS TO WORK TOGETHER TO
03:17:34PM STRENGTHEN THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE IN WAY TO ADDRESS
03:17:38PM T.H.A.N.'S CONCERNS WHILE STILL REMAINING VIABLE FOR THE
03:17:41PM DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
03:17:42PM WE ARE ALL VERY PROUD OF THIS COLLABORATIVE EFFORT, AND I
03:17:45PM CERTAINLY APPRECIATE BEING INCLUDED AND PART OF THIS PROCESS
03:17:47PM AND THE SOLUTION THAT IS BEING PRESENTED BEFORE YOU TODAY.
03:17:50PM WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE GOOD NEIGHBOR
03:17:53PM NOTICE AND WANT TO REITERATE HOW MUCH WORK AND COMPROMISE
03:17:57PM WENT INTO THE PROPOSAL BEING CONSIDERED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL
03:17:59PM TODAY.
03:18:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:18:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 74, RIGHT.
03:18:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CLOSE, SORRY.
03:18:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
03:18:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
03:18:22PM DID WE TAKE A VOTE.
03:18:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
03:18:25PM ANY OPPOSED.
03:18:27PM GO AHEAD.
03:18:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER 2023 CHAPTER 27.
03:18:34PM SUB CITY TOUR THE RESOLUTION ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
03:18:40PM AMENDMENT TO THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE MAKING REVISIONS TO
03:18:42PM THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND
03:18:46PM LAND DEVELOPMENT AMENDING 27-21, CONSISTENCY MATRIX.
03:18:50PM AMENDING SECTION 27-43, DEFINITION, AMENDING SECTION 27-91,
03:18:57PM INTENT.
03:18:58PM 27-111, INTENT FOR DECLARATION OF PUBLIC POLICY.
03:19:02PM AMENDING SECTION 27-149, PUBLIC NOTICE REQUIREMENTS FOR LAND
03:19:09PM DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS AND TEXT AMENDMENTS THROUGH THE LAND
03:19:12PM DEVELOPMENT CODE.
03:19:12PM AMENDING 27-150, DECISION BY CITY COUNCIL AND WITHDRAWAL OF
03:19:19PM APPLICATION OF 27-182, PUBLIC REALM AND PUBLIC REALM ZONING
03:19:24PM STANDARDS.
03:19:24PM AMENDING 27-185, GENERAL PARKING DESIGN FOR TRANSPORTATION
03:19:29PM MODE.
03:19:30PM AND 27-199, OFFICIALS SCHEDULED.
03:19:34PM AMENDING 27-231, INTENT AND DECLARATION OF PUBLIC POLICY.
03:19:39PM AMENDING SECTION 27-271, AUTHORITY TO ESTABLISH.
03:19:42PM AMENDING 27-283.11, VEHICLE PARKING AMENDMENT.
03:19:48PM AMENDING 27-287.25, AMENDING AUTHORITY PENALTY REMEDIES.
03:19:54PM AMENDING 27-330, CONFLICT OF OTHER LAWS.
03:20:00PM REPEALS OF ORDINANCES AND ORDINANCES CONFLICT THEREIN,
03:20:06PM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:20:08PM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
03:20:12PM CLENDENIN.
03:20:12PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:20:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL MOVE THAT CHARLIE MIRANDA WILL HAVE
03:20:17PM TO READ ALL OF THESE LENGTHY ORDINANCES.
03:20:21PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE MEMORIZED THEM.
03:20:24PM >>CLERK: SECOND READ AND ADOPTION FEBRUARY 4, 2024 OLD CITY
03:20:30PM HALL 15 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA
03:20:35PM 33602.
03:20:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:20:37PM WE WILL GO TO THE STAFF REPORTS AND LISTEN TO LIVE.
03:20:42PM CORRECT?
03:20:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
03:20:44PM MAY I LOOK AT THAT, IF I MAY.
03:20:46PM I WANT TO INTRODUCE SOME OF THE GOOD FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN
03:20:49PM WAITING HERE VERY, VERY PATIENTLY AND APPRECIATE THEM IN
03:20:53PM A LOT.
03:20:54PM HIVE INCLUSIVE IS AN ORGANIZATION FOUNDED BY TONYA WHITLOCK
03:20:59PM THAT ADVOCATES FOR INCLUSIVITY OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES
03:21:03PM PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF HOUSING AND ALL OF OUR CULTURE.
03:21:08PM AND AVERY PURVIS IS HERE.
03:21:10PM VERY NICE INDIVIDUAL AND JEAN DEVTIA HERE AS WELL.
03:21:13PM GOOD TO SEE YOU, TONYA WHITLOCK, THE FOUNDER, IS AN
03:21:19PM ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
03:21:21PM FOR HER, LIKE A LOT OF ADVOCATE AS PERSONAL ENDEAVOR.
03:21:24PM SHE HAS A SON -- SHE AND HER HUSBAND HAVE A SON, TRACE
03:21:30PM WHITLOCK WHO IS 30 -- 30 YEARS OLD.
03:21:32PM A YOUNG MAN WITH CEREBRAL PALSY IN A WHEELCHAIR AND UNABLE
03:21:38PM SPEAK, BUT MR. WHITLOCK IS A VERY, VERY REMARKABLE YOUNG MAN
03:21:43PM AND WE WILL BE SHOOTING A CITY OF TAMPA HAVE VIDEO ON HIM.
03:21:47PM MR. WHITLOCK IS A SONGWRITER, A HIP-HOP SONGWRITER AND
03:21:54PM ON iTUNES.
03:21:55PM HIS SONG INCLUDE I LOVE YOU MAMA, BLACK TRAUMA, SUICIDE
03:21:59PM CENSUS, AND HE IS THERE.
03:22:01PM SONGS THAT RANGE FROM HIS LOVE FOR HIS MOTHER.
03:22:05PM EXPERIENCE AS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN MALE.
03:22:07PM AND HIS FAITH JOURNEY AS A CHRISTIAN.
03:22:11PM HE IS JUST A REMARKABLE INDIVIDUAL, BUT TONYA IS THE FOUNDER
03:22:16PM OF HIVE INCLUSIVE YOU AND HER EXPERIENCE AND ADVOCACY FROM
03:22:25PM CHARTER SCHOOLS.
03:22:25PM MAKING SURE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE INCLUSIVE
03:22:28PM FOR PEOPLE LIKE HER SON.
03:22:29PM DEPRESSION, FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
03:22:32PM AND TALKING WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET OVER THAT CLIFF, THAT
03:22:35PM IS WHEN YOU ARE AN INDIVIDUAL WITH DISABILITIES IN THE
03:22:38PM PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM AND YOU GRADUATE, WHAT IS GOING TO
03:22:41PM HAPPEN TO YOU?
03:22:42PM THAT IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
03:22:43PM I REQUESTED THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WORK WITH THE HIVE ON
03:22:46PM FORMULATING SOME SORT OF A PROGRAM OR A PLAN OF HOUSING OF
03:22:50PM PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE SUCH A WONDERFUL
03:22:53PM HEARTFELT PURPOSE AT THE LIVE.
03:22:55PM SO I AM GLAD TO SEE THIS GO.
03:22:58PM I WANTED TO JUST INTRODUCE BECAUSE THESE ARE VERY SPECIAL
03:23:01PM PEOPLE.
03:23:01PM GO AHEAD.
03:23:04PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, KAYON HENDERSON,
03:23:07PM DIRECTOR OF HOUSING.
03:23:09PM AS COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, THE MOTION WAS MADE AND I HAD THE
03:23:13PM PLEASURE OF MEETING WITH TONYA WHITLOCK, DIRECTOR MOODY AND
03:23:17PM I.
03:23:17PM WE HAVE MET WITH THE HIVE, REALLY SEEING HOW THE CITY CAN
03:23:20PM WORK WITH THEM AND HOW WE CAN CREATE A PROGRAM TO MOVE
03:23:23PM FORWARD.
03:23:23PM ORIGINALLY WHEN WE HAD THE FIRST -- INITIAL DISCUSSIONS, THE
03:23:27PM PROPERTY THAT MISS TONYA WAS LOOKING AT WITH AS A LITTLE BIT
03:23:30PM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS.
03:23:32PM NOW WE ARE WORKING -- WE HAVE A MONTHLY ONGOING MEETING TO
03:23:36PM CREATE A PROGRAM, LOOK AT WHAT THE PROGRAM MAKE-UP WILL BE
03:23:41PM WORKING WITH THE COUNTY RESEARCHING DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND
03:23:46PM GRANT FUNDING THAT THE LIVE CAN UTILIZE TO CREATE THIS
03:23:48PM PROGRAM.
03:23:49PM TANYA HAS A BRIEF PRESENTATION SHE WILL SHARE.
03:23:52PM SHE IS TRYING TO CATCH A FLIGHT, SO I AM GOING TO LET HER GO
03:23:55PM FIRST AND I WILL COME UP, IF NEEDED.
03:23:57PM >> THANK YOU.
03:23:58PM AND COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRAISE.
03:24:02PM AND ALL OF YOU, THANK YOU FOR HEARING US AND HEARING OUR
03:24:06PM VISION AND OUR STORY.
03:24:07PM IT IS PERSONAL.
03:24:08PM TRACE IS ONE OF SIX KIDS.
03:24:11PM AND HE IS ONE OF THE OLDEST, SO HE HAS SEEN HIS SIBLINGS
03:24:15PM LEAVE OUR HOME AND GAIN INDEPENDENCE AND GAIN COMMUNITY.
03:24:18PM HE WANTS TO LIVE ON HIS OWN IN HIS OWN SPACE.
03:24:22PM HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE IN A GROUP HOME THAT IS MADE OF PEOPLE
03:24:26PM WITH JUST WITH DISABILITIES.
03:24:28PM HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE IN ANY KIND OF FACILITY OR HOUSING
03:24:30PM THAT IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
03:24:32PM HE WANTS TOP TRULY FEEL LIKE HE IS INCLUDED IN THE COMMUNITY
03:24:35PM AND IS A PART OF IT.
03:24:36PM UNFORTUNATELY, ON OUR -- IN OUR RESEARCH AND MY HUSBAND AND
03:24:41PM I LOOKING FOR HIM TO HAVE THIS SPACE, REAL FLORIDA -- ALL OF
03:24:47PM FLORIDA DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT EXIST THAT IS TRULY
03:24:49PM INCLUSIVE.
03:24:50PM WE DID FIND SPACES IN MARYLAND AND ARIZONA, BUT, OF COURSE,
03:24:54PM WE ARE NOT GOING TO SEND OUR LOVED ONE ALL THE WAY UPSTATE
03:24:57PM JUST TO BE ABLE TO HAVE HOWLING.
03:25:00PM TAMPA IS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS INNOVATIVE SPACE.
03:25:03PM AND HOUSE ASKING BE PART OF INNOVATION.
03:25:06PM WE BELIEVE THAT AN INCLUSIVE SPACE WILL ABSOLUTELY GIVE
03:25:10PM RESULTS THAT POTENTIALLY MAKE US A TEMPLATE ALL OVER THE
03:25:14PM REST OF THE UNITED STATES.
03:25:15PM I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU THIS.
03:25:16PM SO -- THE GOAL IS TO OFFER AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR
03:25:28PM INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES.
03:25:29PM ARIZONA WE NOTED, AN INCLUSIVE SPACE.
03:25:33PM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ACCESSIBLE FOR IF FOR ALL -- TO BE
03:25:39PM ABLE TO AGE OUT.
03:25:40PM SO, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR ANYBODY WHO DOES LIVE THERE, ALL OF THE
03:25:43PM HOUSING WOULD BE ACCESSIBLE FOR -- FOR PEOPLE WITH
03:25:49PM DISABILITIES.
03:25:49PM PAUSE AS IT WE ALL KNOW, EVENTUALLY WE ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE
03:25:52PM A DISABILITY AT SOME POINT IN TIME IF WE ARE OLD ENOUGH TO
03:25:56PM THAT BE WAY EVEN WITH AN ELDERLY MEMBER OR THINGS LIKE THAT,
03:26:02PM INDIVIDUALS WILL BE ABLE TO AGE IN PLACE WHERE THEY ARE.
03:26:03PM THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE SPACE RIGHT NOW THAT WE ARE
03:26:12PM ASKING.
03:26:12PM LAND IS A HUGE ISSUE AND LOOKING FOR FIVE ACRES, FIVE PLUS
03:26:17PM ACRES IF WE CAN.
03:26:17PM BUT IT IS TAMPA SO THAT -- THAT IS AN ISSUE, OF COURSE, WITH
03:26:23PM LAND.
03:26:23PM WE WOULD LOVE TO BE IN TAMPA WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE, OTHER
03:26:28PM CITIES THAT HAVE MORE LAND AVAILABLE THAT SEEM TO BE VERY
03:26:33PM OPEN TO INCLUSIVE HOUSING.
03:26:35PM BUT WE BELIEVE THAT TAMPA IS THE SPACE TO DO THIS IN.
03:26:38PM WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS PLENTY OF RESIDENTS HERE WHO
03:26:42PM DESPERATELY NEED THIS SPACE AND WE SHOULD HAVE IT HERE IN
03:26:46PM TAMPA AS WELL.
03:26:47PM LOCATION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
03:26:49PM WE TRULY WANT TO BE INCLUSIVE WHICH MEANS OUR INDIVIDUALS
03:26:52PM HAVE TO EASILY BE ABLE TO LEAVE AND CATCH A BUS AND GO TO
03:26:55PM SCHOOL OR GO TO WORK.
03:26:57PM WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE IT EASY FOR TAMPA BAY CITIZENS TO COME
03:27:00PM IN AND BE A PART OF WHAT WE ARE DOING.
03:27:02PM I WILL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
03:27:04PM WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SPACES IN OUR FACILITY TO MAKE SURE
03:27:07PM THAT INCLUSION HAPPENS.
03:27:08PM SO WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUILDING UP ON PARTNERSHIPS THAT
03:27:12PM WE HAVE.
03:27:12PM WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THE NEXT SLIDE.
03:27:15PM SORRY.
03:27:16PM CURRENTLY OUR COLLABORATIONS, WE HAVE A MEDICAL CLINIC THIS
03:27:20PM IS GOING TO BE RUNNING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY WITH NURSE
03:27:25PM PRACTITIONERS THEY WILL BE ON CALL FOR OUR MEDICALLY FRAGILE
03:27:28PM INDIVIDUALS.
03:27:29PM WE HAVE A PHARMACIST, A CARE GIVING AGENCY FOR PEOPLE WHO
03:27:32PM WOULD NEED IT.
03:27:33PM WE HAVE A DAY CARE.
03:27:35PM AND ALSO WE ARE WORKING WITH -- WE ARE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT
03:27:38PM THIS.
03:27:38PM WORKING WITH McDONALD TRAINING CENTER IN CREATING THE FIRST
03:27:42PM NEURODIVERGENT -- NEURODIVERSE DENTAL LAB HERE -- THAT HAS
03:27:47PM NEVER BEEN CREATED ACTUALLY.
03:27:48PM WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING WITH McDONALD TRAINING CENTER ON
03:27:52PM THAT.
03:27:52PM SOME OF THE OTHER AMENITIES WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A COMPUTER
03:27:56PM ROOM FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THEIR
03:28:00PM EDUCATION, A GYM, SENSORY ROOM, MEETINGS ROOMS AND A COFFEE
03:28:06PM SHOP.
03:28:06PM SO WE ARE NOT JUST WAITING FOR THIS BUILDING.
03:28:08PM WE ALREADY KNOW THE IMPORTANCE OF BUILDING COMMUNITY.
03:28:11PM THERE ARE -- THERE IS ALWAYS -- OBVIOUSLY A VOID, TOO, AS
03:28:16PM FAR AS SOCIAL INTERACTIONS FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH
03:28:18PM DISABILITIES.
03:28:18PM AND -- IN JUNE OF 2022, WE STARTED PROGRAMMING.
03:28:23PM ALREADY, WE OFFERED SUPPORT GROUPS.
03:28:27PM I AM SUPER EXCITED ONE OF YOU ARE OUR SUPPORT GROUPS,
03:28:33PM ENTREPRENEUR WITH DISABILITY SUPPORT GROUP WHERE WE BRING IN
03:28:36PM PROFESSIONALS HELPING THESE INDIVIDUALS TO MOVE FURTHER IN
03:28:39PM THEIR BUSINESSES OF WE HAVE A CARE-GIVING SUPPORT GROUP.
03:28:42PM WE ALSO HAVE A DISABILITY ADVOCACY SUPPORT GROUP.
03:28:46PM WE HAVE INSTRUCTOR LED CLASSES AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED OF
03:28:50PM INSTRUCTOR LED CLASSES AND MOSTLY LED BY INDIVIDUALS WITH
03:28:55PM DISABILITIES.
03:28:57PM THE BIG THING WITH HIVE, PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE
03:29:03PM GIFTS AND TALENTS THEY JUST NEED OPPORTUNITY.
03:29:05PM CONVERSATION OF HOUSING.
03:29:07PM HOUSE SOMETHING A BIG BUILDING BLOCK OF OPPORTUNITY.
03:29:11PM WE KNOW STABLE AND SAFE HOUSING, AN INDIVIDUAL CAN CONTINUE
03:29:14PM ON AND THRIVE.
03:29:15PM WE KNOW IN A SURVIVAL MODE, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE STABLE HOUSE
03:29:19PM OR A SAFE SPACE, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT
03:29:22PM AND TO BE CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.
03:29:24PM THAT IS A MAJOR GOAL OF OURS AND THE LIVE IS TO CREATE A
03:29:29PM SPACE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES CAN HAVE THOSE
03:29:33PM OPPORTUNITIES GROW.
03:29:34PM I LOVE THIS PICTURE, OUR HONEYCOMB.
03:29:41PM WE ALL FIT TOGETHER.
03:29:42PM I LOVE THE IDEA OF A HIVE, A BEEHIVE IN GENERAL.
03:29:46PM BECAUSE EVERY BEE MAKES A DIFFERENCE, RIGHT.
03:29:49PM THE WORK OF EVERY SINGLE BEE TO BE THIS COMMUNITY TO GET TO
03:29:54PM THE NEXT.
03:29:54PM SO THAT IS WHO WE ARE AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT.
03:29:57PM WE ALSO WANT TO A RESEARCH BASE.
03:30:02PM I AM RN BY PROFESSION.
03:30:04PM AND VERY LITTLE RESEARCH IN THE PAST 20 YEARS OF THE BEST
03:30:10PM MODELS FOR LIVING SPACES OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.
03:30:13PM WE WOULD LOVE TO BE A RESEARCH-BASED SPACE AND HAVING TRUE
03:30:18PM INCLUSION AND BELONGING AND SEEING DIFFERENCES IN EMOTIONAL
03:30:22PM HELP AND MENTAL HELP EVEN IN THEIR MEDICAL OUTCOMES.
03:30:25PM SO, I GET ALL EXCITED BECAUSE THIS IS ALL OF US.
03:30:29PM SO I AM OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
03:30:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:30:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, SURE.
03:30:35PM I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
03:30:37PM I JUST WANTED TO SALUTE YOU BECAUSE.
03:30:40PM I ALWAYS SAY THAT WHEN YOU GET UP IN FRONT OF A GROUP OF
03:30:44PM STRANGERS AND YOU ARE IN PUBLIC AND YOU ARE SPEAKING OF
03:30:47PM SOMETHING THAT IS FROM YOUR HEART, SO PERSONAL, A REAL ACT
03:30:52PM OF COURAGE.
03:30:52PM WHENEVER YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR SON, YOUR EXPERIENCE, ETC.
03:30:56PM A REAL ACT OF COURAGE.
03:30:58PM BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE SHOW OUR HEART OF SOMETHING VERY
03:31:02PM VULNERABLE AND PERSONAL TO US AND IT MAY NOT BE RECEIVED THE
03:31:04PM WAY THAT WE INTENDED IT.
03:31:06PM NOTHING HURTS A PERSON MORE.
03:31:07PM BUT I KNOW EVERYBODY HERE RECEIVES 100% WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
03:31:11PM AND, YOU KNOW, I AM SO GLAD TO SEE THAT THE CITY IS -- IS
03:31:16PM WORKING WITH YOU ALL.
03:31:17PM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH YOU GUYS, I
03:31:21PM WAS VERY TOUCHED BY THE SINCERITY.
03:31:24PM AND IT -- I TOLD YOU MY OWN PARENTS WENT THROUGH THAT
03:31:27PM JOURNEY WITH MY BROTHER, JUAN, PROBABLY 35 YEARS AGO WHEN MY
03:31:31PM LATE FATHER TOOK OFF A COUPLE OF YEARS FROM HIS WORK AND
03:31:35PM HELPED BUILD NEW HORIZONS GROUP HOME IN BRANDON.
03:31:39PM IT'S HARD.
03:31:39PM IT IS VERY, VERY HARD.
03:31:41PM BUT GOVERNMENT BEING INVOLVED IN THIS IS WHAT GOVERNMENT IS
03:31:43PM HERE TO DO.
03:31:44PM I ALWAYS QUOTE WHAT THE LATE HUBERT HUMPHREY, THE MORAL
03:31:49PM TEST OF GOVERNMENT HOW IT TREATS THOSE IN THE TWILIGHT OF
03:31:53PM LIFE FOR OUR SENIORS AND THOSE IN THE SHADOWS OF LIFE FOR
03:31:57PM THE HANDICAP.
03:32:00PM MY POLITICAL CREDO AND WHAT I WOULD THINK THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
03:32:04PM LET ME ASK YOU, IF I MAY, SHOULD WE MOTION FOR THIS TO COME
03:32:08PM BACK FOR AN UPDATE IN SIX MONTHS.
03:32:10PM WHAT IS Y'ALL'S TIMELINE IN TERM OF SOMETHING MOVE FORWARD?
03:32:15PM >> SO WHEN WE HAD OUR LAST DISCUSSION, WHATEVER PROJECTS
03:32:18PM THAT WE ARE BUILDING WILL GO THROUGH A RFP PROCESS.
03:32:22PM WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WHAT ELIGIBLE PROGRAMS ARE BECAUSE HIVE
03:32:26PM HAS NOT FOUND AN ACTUAL LOCATION YET.
03:32:29PM IT IS -- WE ARE UNABLE TO COME BACK AND SAY WE KNOW FOR SURE
03:32:33PM IN SIX MONTHS THEY WILL HAVE A LOCATION IN THE CITY LIMITS,
03:32:36PM BUT WE ARE WORKING, AGAIN -- EVEN IF IT IS FOR SUPPORT
03:32:41PM SERVICES AT THIS TIME UNTIL THEY FIND A LOCATION.
03:32:43PM SO WE ARE CONTINUING OUR WORK TOGETHER, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A
03:32:46PM TIMELINE WHEN THEY WILL ACTUALLY SIGN IT.
03:32:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT I WILL TO DO GIVE IT A LOT OF TIME, TO
03:32:56PM MOTION TO COME BACK FOR THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY
03:32:59PM THE HIVE PROBABLY IN JULY OR AUGUST SORE SO JUST THAT OUT OF
03:33:05PM MIND.
03:33:07PM IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO TALK.
03:33:09PM >> CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING.
03:33:11PM I AM SO ARE SORRY.
03:33:12PM I GOT STIRRED UP IN CONVERSATION, THAT ONE MAJOR THING THAT
03:33:15PM I THINK IS SO IMPORTANT IS OUR TEMPLATE.
03:33:18PM 50% OF THE UNITS WILL BE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, BUT
03:33:21PM THE OTHER 50% WILL BE FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD ALSO
03:33:24PM BENEFIT FROM THE SUPPORTS THAT WE ARE PUTTING IN PLACE.
03:33:26PM SO YOUNG PEOPLE TRANSITIONING OUT OF FOSTER CARE, THE
03:33:30PM ELDERLY, OUR VETERANS WOULD ALSO BENEFIT FROM THE SAME
03:33:33PM SPACE.
03:33:33PM AND ALSO ADD THAT INCLUSION.
03:33:35PM SO -- IT WAS IN MY SLIDE BUT I DIDN'T SAY IT OUT LOUD AND AN
03:33:39PM IMPORTANT PART OF IT.
03:33:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:33:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST AN OBSERVATION.
03:33:44PM I WAS LOOKING AT YOUR DESIGN TEMPLATE, LOOKED LIKE A REAL
03:33:48PM SUBURBAN APARTMENT-STYLE HOUSING.
03:33:50PM BUT YOUR REQUEST IS FOR TO GAIN ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION AND
03:33:55PM ALL THESE OTHER AMENITIES.
03:33:56PM I MEAN, JUST KIND OF AN OAKS.
03:33:58PM WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IS BUILDING THE
03:34:01PM DENSITY AND DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS
03:34:04PM WHICH WHERE MOSTLY VERTICAL AND MORE INTENSIVE VERTICAL.
03:34:08PM CAPACITY MAY BE AN ISSUE WITH SOME OF THE PARCELS AS WELL,
03:34:12PM BECAUSE, AGAIN, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR DENSITY OF THE
03:34:14PM DEVELOPMENT.
03:34:15PM NOT SUBURBAN-STYLE DEVELOPMENT ALONG TRANSPORTATION COARSE
03:34:18PM DOORS.
03:34:18PM THAT COULD BE -- YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER VERSUS OUT --
03:34:22PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
03:34:23PM WE ARE VERY OPEN TO WHATEVER WORKS FOR TAMPA.
03:34:26PM AND WORKS WITH THE SPACE THAT WE ARE IN.
03:34:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALSO WORK FOR YOU AS WELL.
03:34:34PM UP WITH MOBILITY ISSUES, BEING VERTICAL IS MORE -- MORE
03:34:40PM CONDUCIVE TO THAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT.
03:34:43PM PROXIMITY TO AMENITIES WITHIN THE FACILITY AS WELL.
03:34:45PM SO, YEAH, JUST THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
03:34:49PM THAT IS HOW WE ARE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TO GET THINGS GUIDED
03:34:53PM IN THAT DIRECTION.
03:34:53PM I THINK YOU WILL FIND A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE COUNCIL AND
03:34:56PM THE CITY WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
03:34:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
03:35:01PM YES, MA'AM.
03:35:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:35:02PM I WANT TO SAY I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
03:35:05PM IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE THINKING OF ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF
03:35:09PM HOUSING WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
03:35:10PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT -- YOU KNOW, HOUSING SPACE FOR ARTISTS
03:35:15PM IN YBOR.
03:35:16PM AND SO BRINGING THIS ALONG IS JUST -- I HOPE THIS IS A NEW
03:35:21PM WAY OF REALLY LOOKING AT PEOPLE WHO NEED HOUSING WITH VERY
03:35:26PM SPECIFIC FOCUS SO WE CAN -- YOU KNOW, REACH PEOPLE WHERE
03:35:30PM THEY ARE.
03:35:30PM AND GIVE -- GIVEN FOLKS THE INDEPENDENCE THEY NEED AND THE
03:35:34PM SUPPORT THEY NEED TO FIND SUCCESS.
03:35:36PM I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON THIS.
03:35:39PM I AM VERY EXCITED TO SEE WHAT COMES OF IT.
03:35:42PM >> THANK YOU.
03:35:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:35:44PM WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
03:35:44PM I AM GLAD YOU ARE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY.
03:35:46PM MY STEPDAUGHTER, YOU KNOW, ALSO HAS SPECIAL NEEDS AND SHE IS
03:35:54PM GOING TO BE 12 YEARS OLD AND WHEN SHE TURNS 18 AND AGES OUT,
03:35:59PM MY WIFE AND I TALKED ABOUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO.
03:36:01PM I PERSONALLY WOULD LOVE TO KEEP HER WITH US ALL THE TIME.
03:36:04PM MY WIFE -- IT IS VERY DIFFICULT.
03:36:07PM OF COURSE, WE WANT HER TO BECOME INDEPENDENT AND ENJOY ALL
03:36:11PM THE FRUITS OF LIFE.
03:36:13PM YOU KNOW, THERE ARE LIMITED OPTIONS.
03:36:16PM STUFF LIKE THIS AND ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE HIVE MAY OFFER
03:36:20PM HER THOSE OPPORTUNITIES IN ITS FUTURE.
03:36:22PM TOUCHES YOU COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:36:24PM TOUCHES ME DIRECTLY.
03:36:25PM AND IT IS -- YOU KNOW -- THE QUOTE THAT HE USED BY VICE
03:36:29PM PRESIDENT HUBERT HUMPHREY IS TRUE.
03:36:31PM LIKE WHAT ARE WE -- WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE
03:36:36PM YOUNG, THE SICK, FOR THE -- YOU KNOW.
03:36:38PM THAT IS -- THAT IS THE GOOD ASPECT OF GOVERNMENT AND, AGAIN,
03:36:43PM I AM GLAD -- I KNOW HE WILL MAKE HIS MOTION FOR AN UPDATE TO
03:36:46PM COME UP AT A LATER DATE, BUT THIS IS SO IMPORTANT AND I AM
03:36:49PM GLAD THAT YOU ARE HERE.
03:36:50PM AND THANK YOU FOR.
03:36:51PM I KNOW WE CONTINUED THIS FOR LAST TIME.
03:36:53PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
03:36:54PM THIS IS SO IMPORTANT AND SO WONDERFUL.
03:36:56PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:36:57PM >> THANK YOU COUNCILMAN VIERA --
03:37:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO --
03:37:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I ECHO WHAT THEY SAID.
03:37:04PM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO KNOW WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT.
03:37:07PM CERTAINLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO LIVE CITY OF TAMPA
03:37:11PM WHERE EVERYONE IS WELCOME, NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE AND HOW YOU
03:37:16PM ARE.
03:37:16PM HOW TALL YOU ARE, WHATEVER.
03:37:18PM A CITY VERY INCLUSIVE.
03:37:19PM ALWAYS HAS BEEN.
03:37:20PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW IT STARTED AND HOW IT IS, I WALK
03:37:24PM DOWNTOWN, AND I SEE THINGS THAT I NEVER SAW BEFORE.
03:37:27PM WHAT WE ARE BRINGING IN -- BRINGING IN MORE INCLUSION AND
03:37:30PM CERTAINLY COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS BEEN ONE OF THE LEADERS IN
03:37:33PM THAT A AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING HE HAS DONE.
03:37:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT
03:37:37PM MOTION FOR JULY.
03:37:38PM HE.
03:37:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: A SHOUTOUT TO KAYON, NICOLE, ERICA AND ALIS,
03:37:46PM EVERYONE WHO IS DOING SO MUCH IN THIS LITTLE WHATEVER YOU
03:37:50PM CALL IT GREAT SOCIETY HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OF MAKING
03:37:53PM GOVERNMENT WORK FOR PEOPLE.
03:37:54PM THAT -- THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.
03:37:55PM SO I WANTED TO JUST MOTION FOR THIS TO COME BACK ON -- LET'S
03:38:01PM DO THE FIRST WEEK OF AUGUST JUST FOR AN UPDATE ON THE
03:38:07PM RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE HIVE.
03:38:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION --
03:38:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU GUYS NEED MORE TIME.
03:38:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAD THE SECOND.
03:38:19PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN
03:38:23PM MIRANDA.
03:38:23PM AUGUST 1, 2024.
03:38:25PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:38:26PM >> THANK YOU.
03:38:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GREAT SOCIETY.
03:38:30PM I LIKE THAT -- I LIKE THE -- I NEW THE NEW FRONTIER.
03:38:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HOLD THAT AGAINST YOU.
03:38:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, NICOLE TRAVIS WILL GIVE US AN
03:38:58PM UPDATE.
03:38:58PM YES, MA'AM, MISS TRAVIS.
03:38:59PM AGAIN, WE DID NOT VOTE ON 48 AND 49.
03:39:03PM SO AS YOU PRESENT, WE WILL -- WE WILL TAKE THAT UP.
03:39:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM THE PROBLEM.
03:39:10PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I GOT YOU.
03:39:11PM GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, NICOLE TRAVIS, DIRECTOR OF
03:39:16PM ADMINISTRATION AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
03:39:18PM 48 AND 49 TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
03:39:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
03:39:23PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR WE APPROVED -- WE
03:39:27PM TOLD YOU IT WAS AT NEW YEAR AND YOU APPROVED THE ANNUAL
03:39:30PM ACTION PLAN WHICH SETS OUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO SPEND OUR
03:39:33PM MONEY, OUR FEDERAL MONEY ANNUALLY.
03:39:35PM SO AFTER THAT, YOU GOT A SERIES OF OUR PARTNER NONPROFITS.
03:39:44PM YOU APPROVED THREE CONTRACTS SIMILAR TO THE TWO IN CONTRACT
03:39:49PM TODAY.
03:39:49PM THE CONTRACTS ARE ALIGNING THEM WHAT WE SAID WE WERE GOING
03:39:52PM TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL APPLICATION PLAN.
03:39:55PM SOLITA'S HOUSE AND ORGANIZATION -- REACH -- ORGANIZATION
03:40:01PM SOMETHING -- BUT REACH.
03:40:03PM COUNSELING SERVICES THAT THOSE ORGANIZATION PROVIDE.
03:40:05PM THEY ALL PROVIDE SIMILAR SERVICES BUT FOR PRE AND POST
03:40:16PM HOMEOWNERSHIP.
03:40:17PM A LOT OF TIME IN THE MAJORITY, MINORITY COMMUNITIES, PEOPLE
03:40:21PM WITH THE INTENT OR WOULD LIKE TO WORK TOWARD HOME OWNERSHIP,
03:40:25PM BUT THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY SAVED.
03:40:29PM THEY DON'T HAVE THE CREDIT SCORE.
03:40:31PM APART OF THE ORGANIZATIONS WORK WITH THEM IN A SERIES OF
03:40:37PM MONTHS TO GET THEM READY -- READY FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP.
03:40:39PM THE TWO CONTRACTS THAT ARE ON THERE IS AN EXTRA $100,000
03:40:44PM FOR SOLITA AGENCIES HOUSE TO ALIGN WITH OUR ACTION PLAN TO
03:40:48PM CONTINUE TO PERFORM THOSE SERVICES AND SAME THING WITH
03:40:51PM REACH.
03:40:51PM DOLLAR AMOUNT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
03:40:55PM BECAUSE WE HAVE -- REACH HAS NOT MET THEIR GOALS THAT WE
03:41:00PM HAVE OUTLINED IN OUR -- IN OUR REPORT.
03:41:02PM AND SO WHEN YOU DON'T PERFORM TO YOUR GOALS, WE GIVE US LESS
03:41:05PM MONEY.
03:41:06PM WHEN YOU PERFORM AND DO WELL, WE GIVE YOU MORE MONEY.
03:41:08PM SO SOLITA'S HOUSE.
03:41:12PM THEY -- EVEN THOUGH -- THE FIRST TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM, WE
03:41:18PM SET A GOAL FOR SOLITA'S HOUSE FOR 150 CLIENTS TO BE SERVED.
03:41:23PM THEY SERVE IN 2022, THEY SERVED 548 CLIENTS.
03:41:28PM WHAT YOU SHOULD UNDER UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT DIFFERENCE IS,
03:41:31PM EVERY TIME THEY SERVE CLIENTS ABOVE THAT GOAL NUMBER, WE DO
03:41:34PM NOT PAY THEM FOR THAT.
03:41:35PM SO SOLITA'S HOUSE IS STILL PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES.
03:41:40PM I MENTIONED TO YOU EARLIER, THAT IN 2024, SOLITA'S HOUSE
03:41:45PM CLOSED ON -- IN 2021, THEY CLOSED ON 20 -- THAT'S RIGHT 24
03:41:52PM HOMES.
03:41:52PM 2022, 14 HOMES.
03:41:55PM 2023, 14 HOMES.
03:41:56PM 2024, TWO HOMES.
03:41:58PM YOU HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT FROM MISS CONNIE THAT SOLITA'S
03:42:03PM HOUSES CLOSED ON SIX HOMES.
03:42:05PM BETWEEN ALL WHAT HAPPENED THIS MORNING -- WE HAVE AN AWESOME
03:42:08PM TEAM.
03:42:09PM KAYON DID THE RESEARCH TO FIND OUT WHAT MISS CONNIE WAS
03:42:14PM REFERRING TO.
03:42:14PM SHE DID RECEIVE A REPORT AS A MEMBER OF OUR EAST TAMPA CAC.
03:42:19PM AND SOLITA'S HOUSE HAD ONLY CLOSED OF SIX HOMES WITHIN THE
03:42:23PM EAST TAMPA DISTRICT, BUT 14 HOMES CITYWIDE.
03:42:26PM I SPOKEN TO MISS CONNIE AND WE TALKED OF THAT ISSUE.
03:42:29PM SHE COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD THAT.
03:42:32PM FOR REACH, WITH CITY -- LET ME MAKE NOTE THAT THE 54 HOMES
03:42:39PM THAT SOLITA'S HOUSE CLOSED ON SINCE 2021, THAT IS ONLY WITH
03:42:44PM CITY FUNDING.
03:42:45PM THAT ORGANIZATION AS MANY OF OUR OTHER NONPROFITS RECEIVE
03:42:49PM FUNDING FROM EVERYONE ELSE.
03:42:50PM A LOT OF OTHER GOVERNMENT SOURCES.
03:42:53PM REACH, THE CLOSINGS WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA FUNDING IS A
03:42:56PM TOTAL OF 17.
03:42:57PM THEY DID A TOTAL OF 17 CLOSING IN FISCAL YEAR '21.
03:43:01PM THEY DID ONE.
03:43:02PM FISCAL YEAR '23, 11.
03:43:07PM FISCAL YEAR 2024, THEY HAVE DONE ONE.
03:43:10PM I ALSO WANT TO SHOW -- BECAUSE THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT,
03:43:14PM YOU KNOW, REPORTING AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE RECEIVED.
03:43:17PM THE FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED THAT WE ARE DISCUSS SOMETHING
03:43:23PM H.U.D. FUNDING AND FEDERAL FUNDING.
03:43:25PM IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, YOU -- YOU APPROVED WHAT IS CALLED
03:43:32PM A CAPER REPORT.
03:43:34PM AND THE CAPER IS THE ANNUAL PROGRAMMING -- SORRY,
03:43:42PM CONSOLIDATED ANNUAL PERFORMANCE AND EVALUATION REPORT.
03:43:45PM THAT REPORT COMES TO BE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND TURNED IN
03:43:49PM H.U.D. ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
03:43:50PM YOU JUST APPROVED OUR CAPER NOVEMBER 30.
03:43:54PM AND ON THAT CAPER, I WILL JUST PUT SOMETHING QUICK ON THE
03:43:59PM ELMO.
03:43:59PM I WON'T GO THROUGH IT TOO MUCH, BUT JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND
03:44:03PM WHAT KIND OF REPORTING HAPPENS.
03:44:04PM WE LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS.
03:44:07PM WE LOOK AT RACE, ETHNICITY AND THE DIFFERENT QUARTERS TO
03:44:11PM SHOW THE DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS THAT ARE BEING ASSISTED.
03:44:14PM THE DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS.
03:44:18PM AND I WILL JUST SWITCH REAL QUICKLY TO THE SECOND PAGE.
03:44:25PM WE ALSO TRACK HOW MANY POINTS THEIR CREDIT SCORES GO UP ONCE
03:44:31PM THEY RECEIVED SOME COUNSELING SERVICES.
03:44:34PM THIS IS A VERY DETAILED AND AUDITED REPORTING AND WE TAKE
03:44:39PM OUR REPORTING CONTRARY TO SOME COMMENTS AND CHATTER IN THE
03:44:45PM COMMUNITY, THAT THEY TAKE THIS REPORTING VERY SERIOUSLY.
03:44:49PM AND WE HAVE A VERY TRANSPARENT OFFICE SO ANY DISCUSSION
03:44:53PM OTHERWISE IS GOING TO MAKE ME COME UP HERE AND
03:44:57PM PROFESSIONALLY DEFEND MY STAFF AND OUR PROFESSIONAL
03:45:01PM INTEGRITY IN DOING THIS WORK.
03:45:02PM SO --
03:45:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
03:45:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK A QUICK QUESTION?
03:45:11PM AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS.
03:45:12PM NOT -- DO YOU ALL COMPARE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT DO THE
03:45:17PM SAME THING TO SEE WHICH ONES ARE MOST EFFECTIVE WITH THE
03:45:20PM MONEY WE GIVE THEM?
03:45:26PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, THAT IS HOW IT INFORMS US HOW WE DO
03:45:31PM THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
03:45:32PM WE MAKE CHANGES.
03:45:33PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW WILL THIS COMPARE TO OTHERS?
03:45:35PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: HOW WILL SOLITA'S HOUSE COMPARE TO OTHERS?
03:45:39PM IT IS ONE OF OUR BETTER PERFORMERS IN THIS.
03:45:43PM I WILL LET THE PERSON THAT DOES THAT TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
03:45:47PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: KAYON HENDERSON.
03:45:48PM SO SOLITA'S HOUSE HAS BEEN ONE OF THE TOP PERFORMERS.
03:45:53PM THEY ARE ONE OF THE HOUSING COUNSELOR AGENCIES THAT HAVE GOT
03:45:58PM BE $100,000.
03:46:00PM WE CREATE MILESTONES AND BENCHMARKS EVERY THREE YEARS.
03:46:05PM WE MEET WITH THEM QUARTERLY AND AT THE END WE LOOK AT WHAT
03:46:08PM THEY HAVE DONE, IF THEY MET THE BENCHMARKS AND CONTINUE WITH
03:46:14PM A LOWER AMOUNT STEPS IN.
03:46:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE FOLLOW-UP, DO YOU ADJUST FOR EVERY
03:46:19PM SELECTION ON THE POPULATION THAT THESE AGENCIES ARE WORKING
03:46:23PM WITH?
03:46:27PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: NO, WE DON'T ADJUST BASED ON THAT.
03:46:30PM ONE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CAPACITY.
03:46:32PM WHEN WE ARE FUNDED -- WE ARE LOOKING AT THE CAPACITY THAT
03:46:35PM THE AGENCY HAS TO BE ABLE TO FULFILL WHAT WE ARE PUTTING IN
03:46:38PM AS BIRCH MARKS.
03:46:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF A PERSON WAS -- IF ALL -- I DON'T KNOW
03:46:45PM THE ANSWER OF THIS WITH ANY OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
03:46:49PM IF ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE RESULTS MOST OF THE
03:46:51PM PEOPLE ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE LINE IN NORTH CAROLINA.
03:46:53PM A LITTLE BIT EASIER VERSUS ANOTHER AGENCY THAT IS VERY
03:46:57PM DIFFICULT TO PUSH UP.
03:46:58PM DO YOU ALL LOOK AT THAT AT ALL.
03:47:00PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: WHAT WE DO IS REQUEST THEM TO TIME AND
03:47:03PM DATE STAMP EVERYTHING SO THEY ARE NOT CHERRY PICKING ANY
03:47:07PM CLIENTS MORE THAN THE OTHER.
03:47:08PM SO EVERYTHING IS DONE BY TIME AND SPACE.
03:47:13PM FIRST IN.
03:47:14PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: JUST TO -- IN ADDITION TO YOUR POINT,
03:47:17PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, THIS IS THE PUBLIC'S MONEY, RIGHT.
03:47:21PM WHETHER IT IS FEDERAL FUNDS, LOCAL FUNDS, AND WE HAVE TO BE
03:47:25PM GOOD STEWARDS OF THE MONEY.
03:47:26PM IF WE FIND THAT THE ORGANIZATION IS NOT PERFORMING, AND YOU
03:47:30PM WILL SEE THAT AND YOU WILL HEAR SOME OF THEM COME IN AND
03:47:33PM COMPLAIN, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY IN THE NEXT YEAR.
03:47:35PM WHEN WE REDUCE THEIR FUNDING BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT
03:47:37PM PERFORMING.
03:47:38PM LIKE WE ARE PROVIDING THIS MONEY SO THAT YOU CAN PERFORM
03:47:43PM HELP OUR MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS AND OFTENTIMES, THE MOST
03:47:47PM VULNERABLE CITIZENS IN OUR BLACK AND BROWN NEIGHBORHOODS
03:47:51PM THAT ARE MORE VULNERABLE POPULATION THAT WE ARE TRYING TO
03:47:56PM HELP.
03:47:56PM NOT JUST GETTING PEOPLE ELIGIBLE FOR DOWNPAYMENT ASSISTANCE
03:48:01PM AND FINDING THE HOME AND FINDING THE INCOME TO QUALIFY FOR
03:48:03PM THE MORTGAGE AND GETTING THEM IN, BUT HELPING THEM SAVE
03:48:07PM MONEY.
03:48:07PM ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE ARE PROUD OF.
03:48:09PM I THINK IT WAS AN INCREASE IN THEIR SAVINGS.
03:48:12PM IT IS AVERAGING ABOUT $1500 INCREASE IN SAVINGS FROM PEOPLE
03:48:17PM GOING THROUGH THE SERVICES.
03:48:19PM YOU ARE TALKING NOT JUST FROM A HOMEOWNERSHIP STANDPOINT BUT
03:48:23PM A HOLISTIC PERSON LIFE APPROACH AS WE DO THIS WORK.
03:48:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE HOLDING THE ORGANIZATIONS
03:48:30PM ACCOUNTABLE AND BEING A GOOD STEWARD OF THE MONEY.
03:48:34PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT'S RIGHT.
03:48:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE BEING WISE WITH IT.
03:48:36PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND HURTAK.
03:48:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS WHAT I WANTED YOU TO -- TO HAVE
03:48:41PM STAFF COME UP AND SPEAK TO BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF
03:48:45PM FEEDBACK AND RUMOR AND INNUENDO.
03:48:51PM ONE THING IMPRESSED WITH YOU FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND
03:48:54PM STARTING OUR RELATIONSHIP WAS YOUR GOAL OF CREATING
03:48:58PM ACCOUNTABILITY AND MATRIXES AND HOLDING THESE ORGANIZATIONS
03:49:04PM ACCOUNTABLE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST OR
03:49:06PM HAVEN'T DONE WELL IN THE PAST.
03:49:08PM AND THIS TYPE OF HOLDING ORGANIZATIONS ACCOUNTABLE IS
03:49:11PM UNCOMFORTABLE FOR SOME.
03:49:13PM SO -- AND I KNOW WE ARE JUST IN THE BEGINNING.
03:49:16PM I AM SURE THERE IS JUST A LOT OF INEFFICIENCIES WE ARE
03:49:21PM TRYING TO CLEAN UP.
03:49:22PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: TO YOUR POINT, ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL GET
03:49:30PM INTO IN MY ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE IN A LITTLE BIT.
03:49:33PM SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT BEFORE YOU GO
03:49:36PM FORWARD.
03:49:37PM YOU HAVE TO CORRECT SOME THINGS AND FIX YOUR FOUNDATION AND
03:49:40PM STRUCTURE BEFORE YOU START BUILDING A HOUSE NO PUN INTENDED
03:49:47PM WITH THE HOUSE, YOU HAVE TO GO BEHIND.
03:49:50PM AND WHAT YOU WILL SEE IN THE COMING MONTHS, CHANGING
03:49:54PM PROGRAMMING, AND A DIFFERENT WAY OF PROVIDING SERVICES SO
03:49:57PM THE SERVICES ARE HELPING THE MOST VULNERABLE, THE PEOPLE
03:50:00PM THAT NEED THE HELP AND HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE, BECAUSE AT
03:50:04PM THE END OF THE DAY, YOU HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE.
03:50:06PM PUBLIC HOLDS YOU ACCOUNTABLE AND PROFESSIONALLY THAT IS WHAT
03:50:10PM WE ALL SHOULD BE STRIVING FOR, SO, YES.
03:50:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOU AND I SHARE THE SAME GOAL OF
03:50:15PM THE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT, A COST PER, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER
03:50:19PM WE ARE DOING, HOWEVER WE MEASURE THAT, THE MATRIX IS.
03:50:22PM I THINK FOR THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST, HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN
03:50:25PM THIS POSITION NOW, JUST -- NOT THAT LONG?
03:50:28PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: TWO YEARS.
03:50:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS A BIG SHIP.
03:50:32PM TAKES A LONG TIME TO TURN A BIG SHIP.
03:50:34PM BUT I THINK AS WE SEE AND I AM GOING TO TALK OF SOME STUFF
03:50:39PM IN NEW BUSINESS IN TERMS OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRYING TO
03:50:41PM GATHER SOME INFORMATION, SOME OF THAT IS FOR OUR INFORMATION
03:50:44PM AND DECISION-MAKERS AND SOME OF IT IS FOR THE PUBLIC I THINK
03:50:52PM ACCOUNTABILITY IS IMPORTANT AND RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS
03:50:54PM IMPORTANT WITH SOLITA'S HOUSE.
03:51:00PM $7,000 PER UNIT.
03:51:02PM REASONABLE.
03:51:03PM LITTLE OVER $7,000 PER UNIT.
03:51:06PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I AM GOING TO PUSH BACK A LITTLE BIT.
03:51:08PM YOU ARE TALKING OF RETURN OF INVESTMENT ON A REAL ESTATE
03:51:10PM PERSPECTIVE, IT WILL BE A HIGHER NUMBER, RIGHT.
03:51:12PM HOW DO YOU PUT A INVESTMENT FOR THE 548 PEOPLE WHO NEED
03:51:17PM HELP, THAT INCREASED THEIR CREDIT STORE AND ADD SAVINGS AND
03:51:20PM MAY NOT BE READY TO STILL GET INTO A HOME.
03:51:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT 14 NUMBER DOES NOT REFLECT THE NUMBER
03:51:27PM OF CLIENTS THEY ARE DEALING WHERE, BUT SUCCESSFUL CLOSING
03:51:30PM AND OTHER. MATRIXES WE ARE MEASURING TO AS WELL.
03:51:33PM >> AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE MORE AND
03:51:38PM FIGURE OUT HOW -- YOU ARE SAYING RETURN ON INVESTMENT, BUT I
03:51:42PM DON'T KNOW HOW YOU NECESSARILY QUANTIFY THAT WHEN -- WHEN
03:51:46PM YOU HELP THAT.
03:51:46PM I DON'T HAVE -- I WILL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, BUT I WILL
03:51:49PM LOOK AT THE 548 PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THE
03:51:53PM PROGRAM, BECAUSE THAT IS A SHIFT IN, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR
03:51:57PM LIFESTYLE AND HOW YOU OPERATE AND HOW YOU RUN YOUR HOME.
03:51:59PM SO --
03:52:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOUNDS TO ME LIKE ANOTHER CATEGORY TO --
03:52:05PM TO CHECK OFF AND SAY HOW MANY -- HOW MANY CREDIT COUNSELING
03:52:09PM AND SUCCESSFUL CREDIT COUNSELING.
03:52:12PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE REPORT.
03:52:13PM THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE REPORT.
03:52:15PM NO, BUT I -- SO -- LET ME THINK IT A LITTLE MORE AND MAYBE
03:52:20PM WHEN I COME BACK TO YOU NEXT MONTH.
03:52:22PM I WANT TO DIGEST IT.
03:52:23PM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO
03:52:26PM ACHIEVE.
03:52:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOU AND I ARE IN THE SAME PAGE
03:52:30PM HOLDING THESE ORGANIZATIONS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE TAXPAYER AND
03:52:33PM GETTING WHAT WE PAY FOR.
03:52:34PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES.
03:52:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU ARE STEERING THE
03:52:38PM SHIP IN THAT DIRECTION.
03:52:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:52:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY SOMEBODY WHO WORKED WITH THE
03:52:45PM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS, THERE ARE SO
03:52:47PM MANY GUARDRAILS.
03:52:49PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: SURE.
03:52:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MANY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE MONEY THAT HAS
03:52:53PM TO GO AND THE WAY DO YOU IT THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF
03:52:57PM WIGGLE ROOM.
03:52:58PM WE ARE REALLY JUST THE THRUWAY FOR A LOT OF THESE FUNDS.
03:53:02PM IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE CAN'T LOOK AT SOME OF THE WAYS WE
03:53:08PM CAN BUT YOU ARE ALREADY DOING THAT AT THE ORGANIZATIONS AND
03:53:15PM WHO IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL.
03:53:18PM I APPRECIATE IT.
03:53:26PM THE MAJORITY OF THESE FUNDS HOW MUCH THEY ARE FOLLOWING
03:53:29PM THROUGH.
03:53:29PM SO MUCH REPORTING THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THIS.
03:53:30PM AND I DO APPRECIATE THE REPORTS THAT WE DO GET.
03:53:34PM BECAUSE YOU HAVE SHARED THOSE REPORTS WITH US.
03:53:36PM AND THEY ARE VERY DETAILED.
03:53:39PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YES, WE HAVE.
03:53:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
03:53:44PM I APPRECIATE EVERY REPORT YOU SHARE, BECAUSE THAT ENABLES ME
03:53:47PM TO LOOK AT THAT BEFORE WE GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THESE AND SEE
03:53:51PM THAT ABSOLUTELY YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU CAN DO HELP THOSE
03:53:55PM FOLKS HELP THESE ORGANIZATIONS HELP OTHERS.
03:53:58PM THAT IS ACTUALLY THE THING THAT I LIKE BEST WE ARE NOT IN
03:54:05PM THE BUSINESS OF DOING THAT.
03:54:06PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO IT OURSELVES.
03:54:08PM WE SHOULDN'T.
03:54:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE NOT AGILE ENOUGH.
03:54:11PM WE AREN'T.
03:54:12PM GOVERNMENT IS A SLOW SHIP.
03:54:14PM IT DOES NOT QUICKLY, THOSE AROUND US IN THE NONPROFIT WORLD
03:54:18PM CAN MOVE A LITTLE BIT FASTER EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE
03:54:21PM GUARDRAILS AROUND THEM.
03:54:22PM I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO PARTNERING WITH
03:54:26PM THESE AGENCIES BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE CAN'T USE THE CDBG FUNDS
03:54:37PM ANY OTHER WAY.
03:54:37PM THEY ARE PASS-THROUGH FUNDS.
03:54:39PM WE GET TO WHO THEY ARE PASSED THROUGH INSTEAD OF THE FEDERAL
03:54:43PM GOVERNMENT HELPS US AND HELPS US TO BE ABLE TO SEE WHO CAN
03:54:45PM BE HELPED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
03:54:46PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: JUST ONE OTHER POINT.
03:54:52PM WE DO GOOD AUDITS WE MAKE CHANGES.
03:54:54PM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WHEN THEY HAVE MONEY LEFT OVER,
03:54:59PM PEOPLE WHO ARE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE MONEY AND GIVE THEM MORE
03:55:02PM MONEY.
03:55:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DID THAT.
03:55:04PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE CAME BACK TO YOU WITH ALMOST A $1
03:55:07PM MILLION OF EXTRA FUNDS BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
03:55:09PM RECOGNIZED USS OF BEING GOOD STEWARDS AND GOOD REPORTERS OF
03:55:14PM THE MONEY.
03:55:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:55:15PM I DO WANT -- THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
03:55:18PM YOU HAVE DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB AND I AM JUST -- YES.
03:55:23PM SNOWING THE FEDS, IT IS NOT EASY.
03:55:26PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THANK YOU.
03:55:28PM MR. CHAIR, BEFORE I GIVE THE OTHER UPDATE, WE VOTE ON 48 AND
03:55:34PM 49.
03:55:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOUR COMMITTEE.
03:55:37PM MOVE 48 AND 49.
03:55:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE 49 AND 49.
03:55:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
03:55:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:55:44PM AYE.
03:55:46PM YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
03:55:48PM PASSING AROUND THE CHOCOLATE.
03:55:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE BEEN LAUGHING BECAUSE THIS BOX OF
03:55:51PM CHOCOLATES HAVE BEEN CALLING HIS NAME FOR ABOUT AN HOUR.
03:55:54PM AND HE HAS BEEN SCRATCHING INTO IT LIKE A KID, PULLING THE
03:55:58PM PAPER OFF OF ONE PIECE AT A TIME.
03:56:00PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
03:56:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CHOCOLATE, ANYONE?
03:56:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
03:56:08PM ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
03:56:11PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THE ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
03:56:13PM I REQUESTED TO COME BEFORE YOU, COUNCIL, BECAUSE A LOT OF
03:56:15PM TALK IN THE COMMUNITY ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
03:56:18PM AND YOU KNOW MY ENTIRE PORTFOLIO WORKED TIRELESSLY TO GET
03:56:22PM OUR ARMS AROUND THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS, WITH NEW
03:56:25PM RESOURCES, WITH REVISING PROGRAMS AND POLICIES, AND YOU KNOW
03:56:29PM THIS, BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN ON THIS JOURNEY WITH US FOR THE
03:56:32PM LAST 18 MONTHS.
03:56:33PM YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE WE STARTED OUR HOUSING NEEDS
03:56:38PM ASSESSMENT.
03:56:38PM YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY HAS CONTINUED TO REACH
03:56:41PM OUT TO YOU.
03:56:42PM YOU APPROVED ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN YOUR CAPACITY AS CRA,
03:56:49PM AS CRA BOARD AND YOUR CAPACITY AS CITY COUNCIL.
03:56:52PM THERE ARE A COUPLE OF MOTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY
03:56:55PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK INVOLVING QUARTERLY HOUSING.
03:56:59PM QUARTERLY HOUSING UPDATE AND ALSO A REPORT ON AFFORDABLE
03:57:03PM HOUSING AND THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF MONEY.
03:57:05PM I'M HERE BEFORE YOU THAT IS ON THE SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 25.
03:57:08PM AND I AM REQUESTING THAT WE MOVE THAT TO FEBRUARY 22
03:57:14PM WORKSHOP.
03:57:14PM AND SO THAT FEBRUARY 22 WORKSHOP, IT WOULD BE OUR PLEASURE
03:57:19PM TO PROVIDE YOU AND THE COMMUNITY A COMPREHENSIVE AFFORDABLE
03:57:23PM HOUSING ROAD MAP.
03:57:24PM IN THAT ROAD MAP, WE DO THE QUARTERLY UPDATE.
03:57:27PM WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE YOU THE LATEST UPDATE ON THE HOUSING
03:57:30PM NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WITHER GOING TO
03:57:33PM CHANGE.
03:57:33PM AND IT IS -- IT WILL BE ANNUAL ENCOMPASSING HOUSING REPORT.
03:57:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO --
03:57:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
03:57:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
03:57:44PM A PHENOMENAL IDEA AND SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO AND HAVE AN
03:57:48PM ENTIRE WORKSHOP FOCUSED.
03:57:50PM UNFORTUNATELY OUR FEBRUARY WORKSHOP IS CHOCK-FULL.
03:57:54PM SO MY RECOMMENDATION -- WE HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE,
03:57:57PM SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE.
03:57:59PM AND I WILL SAY HALF OF THOSE WERE THE CONTINUED FROM ANOTHER
03:58:03PM TIME.
03:58:03PM WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND DOING IS CREATING A SECOND WORKSHOP
03:58:07PM IN FEBRUARY WHETHER IT BE THE 29th WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A
03:58:11PM MEETING OR A TUESDAY, ANOTHER DAY, BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THAT
03:58:16PM HOUSING IS SO IMPORTANT TO BOTH THE -- THIS COUNCIL AND THIS
03:58:20PM COMMUNITY THAT WE SHOULD -- WE SHOULD CREATE ONE SPECIFIC
03:58:26PM TIME TALK ABOUT NOTHING BUT HOUSING AND UPDATE YOU -- ALL OF
03:58:30PM US ON WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN, BECAUSE YOU HAVE DONE A HUGE JOB.
03:58:34PM YOU HAVE BASICALLY STARTED A DEPARTMENT THAT DIDN'T EXIST.
03:58:40PM TO BE ABLE TO GET AS FAR AS WE HAVE IN A LIMITED AMOUNT OF
03:58:45PM TIME.
03:58:45PM AND ANOTHER THING I KNOW WE ALWAYS WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
03:58:48PM WE HAVE THIS MONEY.
03:58:49PM HOW DO WE SPENDS IT?
03:58:51PM YOU HAVE THAT ROAD MAP.
03:58:52PM YOU HAVE DONE THE WORK TO FIND THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
03:58:55PM THIS IS YOU ARE GOING TO PRESENT, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, THE
03:58:59PM ROAD MAP OF WAYS TO SPEND THE MONEY IN THE BEST FISCAL WAY
03:59:03PM RESPONSIBLE OR FISCAL -- FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY.
03:59:07PM SO I HAVE DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS IDEAS ON.
03:59:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:59:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ACTUALLY JUST WANT TO TALK --
03:59:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT I -- THE THING IS, THESE ARE ALREADY
03:59:22PM MOTIONS THAT EXIST.
03:59:23PM THEY EXIST FOR JANUARY 25.
03:59:27PM AND SO JANUARY 25, IT WAS JUST GOING TO BE A STAFF REPORT,
03:59:33PM BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THESE STAFF REPORTS TO A FEBRUARY
03:59:40PM WORKSHOP AND AGAIN PERSONALLY I THINK THE 29th WILL BE A
03:59:45PM GREAT DAY TO DO THE WORKSHOP.
03:59:47PM WE CAN'T HAVE A WORKSHOP IN JANUARY.
03:59:51PM WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP IN MARCH.
03:59:54PM ANY FURTHER BOTH HINDERS OUR ABILITY TO GET
03:59:59PM THINGS DONE AND THE PUBLIC'S ABILITY TO GAIN THE KNOWLEDGE
04:00:03PM THAT ALREADY EXISTS LAND BE READY.
04:00:08PM I AM READY TO --
04:00:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY DON'T.
04:00:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING ON THE FIFTH
04:00:14PM THURSDAY.
04:00:14PM WHEN WE HAVE FIVE THURSDAYS, WE GET THE FIFTH ONE OFF.
04:00:18PM WE ARE GETTING ONE OFF TWO WEEKS LATER FOR SPRING BREAK.
04:00:24PM I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
04:00:25PM INCLUDE A COMPREHENSIVE PORT INCLUDING A HOUSING NEEDS
04:00:29PM ASSESSMENT, QUARTERLY HOUSING UPDATES AND THIS ROAD MAP.
04:00:33PM ANYTHING ELSE THAT WILL BE INCLUDED?
04:00:36PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: NO, MA'AM.
04:00:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP
04:00:42PM FEBRUARY 22 -- SORRY, 29th.
04:00:45PM APOLOGIES.
04:00:46PM ITEMS ON JANUARY 25, NUMBER ONE, STAFF TO COMPILE A
04:00:58PM COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING REPORT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
04:01:02PM INCLUDING CRA'S COMMITMENT EXPENDITURES FOR SHORT-TERM,
04:01:08PM MIDTERM AND LONG-TERM HOUSING.
04:01:10PM ALSO I THINK THAT.
04:01:18PM BIG ONE.
04:01:19PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT IS THE BIG ONE.
04:01:20PM NORMALLY YOU WILL SEE THE QUARTERLY UPDATE AROUND MARCH AND
04:01:25PM APRIL AND WE ARE MOVING IT UP FOR ALL OF THE COMPREHENSIVE.
04:01:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: PERFECT.
04:01:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. CHAIR.
04:01:33PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: MORE FINANCE.
04:01:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MORE FINANCE AND A QUICK STAFF REPORT THING.
04:01:37PM I WANT TO DO A DEEP DIVE INTO HOUSING AND TALK NOTHING ABOUT
04:01:41PM HOUSING AND HAVING OUR FOCUS BE THAT.
04:01:44PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IF YOU WANT TO DO THE FINANCIAL PAYMENT.
04:01:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PART OF WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
04:01:52PM SO MR. CHAIR.
04:01:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HAVE YOU TALKED TO HER ABOUT THAT?
04:01:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I BELIEVE -- REACH OUT TO IT THE OFFICE
04:01:58PM ABOUT WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO FOR NEW BUSINESS, DID HE NOT?
04:02:01PM HE REACHED OUT TO SOMEBODY --
04:02:04PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: EXCUSE ME --
04:02:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION.
04:02:06PM DOES ANYBODY HAVE A SECOND.
04:02:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:02:11PM DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:02:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEW BUSINESS, I WOULD HAVE CITY STAFF TO
04:02:15PM REPORT A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF ALL PROGRAMS RELATED TO
04:02:18PM HOUSING, THEIR COSTS AND WHAT THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA ARE
04:02:21PM GETTING.
04:02:21PM BASICALLY IS A LOT ON THESE PROGRAMS.
04:02:25PM IN LIGHT OF THE OLIVIA GEORGE REPORT IN THE "TAMPA BAY
04:02:30PM TIMES."
04:02:30PM FOR SOME OF TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC TO SHOW
04:02:34PM WE ARE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THEIR MONEY.
04:02:38PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: IN THE QUARTERLY REPORT.
04:02:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO HAVE THIS AS A LINE ITEM AND HIGHLIGHT
04:02:42PM THIS.
04:02:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS QUARTERLY.
04:02:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW
04:02:47PM BRINGING THIS TO THE WORKSHOP.
04:02:49PM HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT OF EVERYTHING BECAUSE THERE IS A
04:02:55PM LOT OF THINGS -- LINE ITEMS THAT WE APPROVE HERE AND THERE
04:03:00PM THAT ARE INTANGIBLY TIED TO HOUSING OR RENT SUBSIDIES
04:03:06PM AND COMMUNITY LAND TRUSTS.
04:03:09PM ALL THESE KIND OF THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM ALL ROLLED
04:03:12PM TOGETHER SO WE CAN SEE IN ONE DOCUMENT EVERYTHING THAT WE
04:03:15PM ARE DOING THAT IS TOUCHING HOUSING HE.
04:03:17PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: THAT IS THE QUARTERLY REPORT WE PROVIDED TO
04:03:19PM YOU.
04:03:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ASKED THEM TO DO THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF
04:03:22PM LAST BUDGET CYCLE OF 2023 IF.
04:03:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: INCLUDING RENT.
04:03:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT INCLUDES EVERYTHING.
04:03:28PM WE HAD A GREAT -- STARTED WITH NICOLE.
04:03:31PM BECAUSE SHE -- IT IS YOUR FAULT.
04:03:33PM BECAUSE STARTED WITH THIS VERY BEAUTIFUL FIVE-POINT IMAGE OF
04:03:38PM HOUSE WE WERE SPENDING HOUSING FUNDING.
04:03:41PM I SAID THIS LOOKS SO GOOD.
04:03:42PM WE NEED TO SEE IT EVERY QUARTER AND THAT IS WHAT A SHE
04:03:46PM BROUGHT EVERY QUARTER.
04:03:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T REMEMBER SAYING HOW MANY PEOPLE WE
04:03:50PM HAVE SLEEPING IN BEDS.
04:03:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WOULD LOVE
04:03:53PM THEN, WE GET A REPORT AT AHAC MEETING EVERY MONTH.
04:03:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HE NOT SEEN THAT.
04:03:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DOES NOT COME TO ALL THE COUNCILMEMBERS.
04:04:02PM CAN YOU START FORWARDING THE AHAC SLIDES TO ALL OF US.
04:04:07PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE CAN FORWARD IT.
04:04:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAVING THE DISCUSSION DURING THE WORKSHOP
04:04:11PM AND BRING THE DOCUMENTATION.
04:04:13PM WE CAN BRING THAT DOCUMENTATION FOR THE WORKSHOP AS A
04:04:16PM DISCUSSION.
04:04:18PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: AS PART OF THE MOTION.
04:04:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:04:24PM YES, SIR.
04:04:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU MENTIONED THE ARTICLE.
04:04:28PM THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF DEBATE AND ANGST ABOUT THE MAYOR'S
04:04:33PM GOAL OF 10,000 AND THE WAY IT WAS COUNTED.
04:04:39PM I SAID THIS BEFORE IN MEETINGS.
04:04:41PM I THINK THAT THE MAYOR SHOULD WITHDRAW THAT GOAL.
04:04:43PM AN ARBITRARY GOAL.
04:04:45PM AND IT DOESN'T -- DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
04:04:48PM WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS THE -- THE NUMBER OF WE CAN
04:04:56PM DEBATE THIS ON THIS DAY, BUT LOOK AT THE OVERALL AMOUNT OF
04:04:59PM MONEY WE ARE SPENDING AND EFFICIENCY HOW MUCH WE ARE
04:05:04PM SPENDING PER UNIT.
04:05:05PM SOMEBODY PROPOSED 375,000 OFFICER AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR 0
04:05:10PM YEARS.
04:05:10PM AND OTHER TO HELP BUY A HOUSE FOR $50,000.
04:05:14PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE RELATIVE BENEFITS OF INVESTING.
04:05:18PM WE NEED TO WORK ON -- IN THE DATA, AND SORRY IF YOU HAVEN'T
04:05:23PM YOU HAVE IT ALREADY, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE DISTRIBUTION
04:05:26PM OF EITHER THE INCOMES OF THE PEOPLE OFFER THEIR SITUATION
04:05:29PM SOMEHOW SO WE CAN SEE -- MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE PROPER
04:05:36PM DISTRIBUTION AND NO ADVERSE SELECTION.
04:05:39PM THE OTHER THING IS IN THE -- IN THE COUNTING OF IT.
04:05:42PM AND THIS IS WHAT PART OF THE STORY IS ABOUT.
04:05:45PM AND THERE IS A LOT OF CHATTER IN THE COMMUNITY WITH I IS WHY
04:05:47PM THESE STORIES END UP BEING WRITTEN.
04:05:49PM AND THE CHATTER IS IN HOW THINGS ARE COUNTED.
04:05:53PM WE NEED TO HAVE A DEFINITE CONSISTENT WAY OF ACCOUNTING IT.
04:05:57PM AND -- BY -- BY, YOU KNOW, WHEN -- WHEN IT OPENS, THE TIMING
04:06:03PM OF IT, KIND OF UNIT.
04:06:05PM YOU KNOW WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING BEFORE US WANTING AFFORDABLE
04:06:09PM HOUSING THAT IS 200% OF AMI OR 140% OF AMI AND ALL OF IT IS
04:06:15PM LUMPED TOGETHER.
04:06:17PM IT IS 30 YEARS.
04:06:18PM SOME OF IT IS LONGER AND WE NEED CONSISTENCY OF THAT.
04:06:23PM WE NEED TO DRAW A BIG LINE.
04:06:24PM I KNOW TOUGH IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT WE NEED TO DRAW BIG
04:06:28PM LINE BETWEEN CRA AND CITY.
04:06:30PM CRA IS LIMITED TO WHAT WE CAN DO.
04:06:34PM THE CITY IS ULTIMATELY LIMITED AND THE CITY HAS A MUCH, MUCH
04:06:37PM BIGGER BUDGET.
04:06:38PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WE ARE DOING.
04:06:40PM THE SEPARATE ONE IS, ALL THE MONEY COMING IN.
04:06:43PM FOR A YEAR, BENEFITTING FROM FEDERAL DOLLARS.
04:06:47PM AND THE OTHER THING AS WE SAID BEFORE, INFLATION IS SLOWING
04:06:52PM DOWN, THE MUCH BIGGER PERCENTAGE.
04:06:54PM 80% AND DEBATE IT ON THAT DAY.
04:06:57PM 80% HOMEOWNERSHIP INSTEAD OF RENTAL ASSISTANCE.
04:07:02PM IF WE DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS SITUATION THAT IS GOING
04:07:06PM TO HAPPEN WHERE INTEREST RATES COME DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF
04:07:08PM THIS YEAR AND INFLATION SLOWS DOWN.
04:07:11PM WE DON'T TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP PEOPLE BUY HOMES,
04:07:14PM PEOPLE WILL GET STUCK IN THE NEXT WAVE AND WE WILL HAVE
04:07:18PM WORSE RENTAL PROBLEMS, THANK YOU.
04:07:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES?
04:07:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO THINK THESE ARE GREAT REASONS THAT WE
04:07:25PM NEED TO HAVE A HOUSING WORKSHOP, BUT I -- I ALSO THINK THAT
04:07:33PM LAST CRA MEETING FOR ME PERSONALLY LEFT ME UNCLEAR ON HOW,
04:07:42PM EXCUSE ME, TO DO THE WORK.
04:07:44PM WHAT IS A GOOD -- WHAT IS THE GOOD -- WHAT -- WHAT IS A GOOD
04:07:48PM PROJECT MONETARILY.
04:07:51PM AND I HAVE TALKED TO MR. DRUMGO ABOUT THIS QUITE A BIT AND
04:07:56PM SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HELP US.
04:07:57PM AND I WILL TALK TO HIM OFFLINE ABOUT THIS, BUT POSSIBLY
04:08:01PM BRINGING US SOME PROJECTS FROM OTHER -- EITHER CRAs OR
04:08:06PM CITIES AND WHAT -- THOSE CITIES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
04:08:11PM ACCOMPLISH.
04:08:11PM I SHOULD HAVE SAVED SOME OF THIS FROM THE CRA -- FROM THE
04:08:15PM CONFERENCE.
04:08:17PM I BET WE CAN GET SOME OF THOSE SLIDES.
04:08:20PM FT. LAUDERDALE, I BELIEVE, DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB.
04:08:23PM BRING SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS TO SHOW US SOME OF THE MONEY
04:08:27PM BEING SPENT AND HOW IT IS BEST SPENT, BUT REALLY JUST HAVING
04:08:31PM A KINDS OF DEEP DIVE INTO HOUSING.
04:08:35PM 10,000 OPPORTUNITIES AN ASH TREE NUMBER AND NOT SOMETHING WE
04:08:38PM SHOULD FOCUS ON.
04:08:39PM FOCUS ON THE FACT WE STARTED NOT HAVING A HOUSING DEPARTMENT
04:08:43PM REALLY.
04:08:43PM RAMPED UP THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT.
04:08:45PM TAKEN MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT HAD TO BE SPENT
04:08:47PM ON HOUSING AN WE HAVE DONE THE BEST WE KNEW HOW TO DO HAND
04:08:52PM THIS WE ARE CONTINUING TO MAKE CHANGES INCLUDING THE MONTHS
04:08:59PM YOU HAVE SPENT BEHIND THE SCENES CREATING THIS HOUSING NEED
04:09:02PM ASSESSMENT AND ROAD MAP FOR HOUSING.
04:09:04PM AND I AM REALLY EXCITED TO SEE IT.
04:09:07PM AND TO SEE WHAT WE, AS A CITY, CAN TO DO HELP, BUT ALSO
04:09:13PM REALLY ENCOURAGING THE NONPROFITS TO FIT IN WHERE THEY NEED
04:09:17PM TO FIT IN, BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO IT ALL.
04:09:19PM AND HOW DO WE HELP AS A CITY WITHOUT ACTUALLY DOING ALL THE
04:09:24PM WORK OURSELVES.
04:09:26PM SO I REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THAT.
04:09:28PM AND I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU AND
04:09:31PM YOUR STAFF HAVE DONE.
04:09:32PM WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE DOORS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE
04:09:37PM HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THE WORK.
04:09:38PM AND I -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF KNOW
04:09:43PM HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU ALREADY HAVE DONE AND THE
04:09:49PM COUNCIL APPRECIATES THE WORK IF YOU CAN PUT WORDS IN MOUTH
04:09:54PM OF DOING WHAT WE CAN.
04:09:54PM YOU STARTED WITH A SHOESTRING.
04:09:57PM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET WAS PRETTY AMAZING AND THE FACT WE ARE
04:10:01PM WHERE WE ARE NOW IS PRETTY REMARKABLE.
04:10:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
04:10:07PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:10:09PM MORE DISCUSSION.
04:10:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM NOT ABLE TO SAY TO CLEARLY ENUNCIATE
04:10:14PM AND PLAY BACK ON WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
04:10:17PM I DON'T THINK WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE CONSENSUS OF, ONE
04:10:26PM WHERE WE ARE AS FAR AS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE ARE SPENDS AND
04:10:29PM WHAT WE ARE GETS FOR THAT MONEY.
04:10:31PM THIS IS JUST ME PERSONALLY.
04:10:38PM I AM NOT COMFORTABLE -- I AM NOT THERE YET.
04:10:41PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: I GET IT BALANCE THIS OUT.
04:10:47PM WHAT IS THE COST PER PERSON.
04:10:49PM WHAT IS THE COST PER UNIT.
04:10:50PM SPENDS $50 MILLION ON THIS OR SPENDS IT ON OWNER REHAB.
04:10:54PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: CAN I -- MAY I, PLEASE.
04:10:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, ABSOLUTELY.
04:10:59PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YOU GUYS ARE NOT HOUSING EXPERTS.
04:11:01PM I WILL JUST BE VERY CLEAR.
04:11:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM DEFINITELY NOT.
04:11:04PM I AM AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER.
04:11:08PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: WE ARE.
04:11:09PM WE ARE PROFESSIONAL STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS
04:11:11PM FOR IS A LONG TIME
04:11:12PM WE BRING TO YOU PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON OUR
04:11:16PM EXPERIENCE, BASED WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY, BASED
04:11:18PM ON THE RESEARCH WE HAVE DONE AND OUR PROFESSIONAL
04:11:21PM EXPERIENCE.
04:11:21PM AND SO THE -- YOU ARE NOT GOING BECOME AN EXPERT OVERNIGHT.
04:11:27PM DO YOU HAVE TO RELY ON THE EXPERTISE OF YOUR STAFF, AND YOU
04:11:31PM NEED TO ASK QUESTIONS AND ALLOW US TO BRING THE INFORMATION
04:11:37PM TO MAKE DECISIONS.
04:11:38PM YOU WILL NOT BE HOUSING EXPERTS OVERNIGHT OR IN 18 MONTHS.
04:11:42PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK YOU, MORE THAN ANYONE, HAVE -- I THINK
04:11:45PM WE SPENT SO MUCH TIME JUST GETTING UNDERSTANDING AND US
04:11:50PM LEARNING TOGETHER.
04:11:51PM I WOULDN'T SAY THAT IT IS STAFF TEACHING YOU ANYTHING.
04:11:54PM I THINK WE ARE LEARNING TOGETHER.
04:11:55PM YOU PROVIDE US ARTICLES.
04:11:57PM SO THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR TRUSTING YOUR
04:11:59PM PROFESSIONAL STAFF.
04:12:02PM I JUST WANTED TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THE ROAD MAP WE BRING TO
04:12:05PM YOU ON FEBRUARY 29, THAT IS GOING TO BE OUR PROFESSIONAL
04:12:08PM RECOMMENDATION, AND IT IS GOING TO BE BASE ODD ON THE
04:12:16PM HOUSING PRIORITIES THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVED.
04:12:19PM WE PRIORITIZED HOW THE WE SPEND THE MONEY.
04:12:22PM THIS COUNCIL DID THAT.
04:12:23PM BROUGHT YOU RECOMMENDATIONS.
04:12:24PM WE TALKED THROUGH IT.
04:12:26PM WORKSHOPPED IT.
04:12:27PM FIVE-POINT PRIORITY OF HOW TO PRIORITIZE MONEY.
04:12:30PM WE HAVE BEEN MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF HOW
04:12:33PM WE ARE GOING TO CHANGE OUR PROGRAMS AND BECOME CONSISTENT.
04:12:36PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED OF CONSISTENCY BETWEEN CRA AND
04:12:42PM SOME OF OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS.
04:12:44PM AND WHEN COUNCILMAN GUDES WAS ON COUNCIL, THAT ARE
04:12:47PM THE THINGS HE RAISED ALARMS ABOUT, THAT WE WEREN'T
04:12:51PM CONSISTENT IN OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS BETWEEN CRA -- CRA SHOULD
04:12:56PM BE LOOKED AT FUNDS.
04:12:57PM FUNDS.
04:12:57PM AND THE HOUSING STRATEGY IS AN OVERARCHING STRATEGY THAT
04:13:03PM GOVERNS THAT.
04:13:03PM THE AVENUE FOR FUNDS.
04:13:05PM IT IS APPLICABLE AND WILL BE DISPERSED IN THE DIFFERENT CRAs
04:13:10PM BASED ON THE GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION, WHAT THE CACS VOTED ON IN
04:13:17PM THEIR PARTICULAR DISTRICTS.
04:13:18PM ALL THIS THAT IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERS IN THE ROAD MAP.
04:13:21PM I WANT TO TEMPER OUR EXPECTATIONS.
04:13:24PM WHEN WE BRING THE ROAD MAP, A OPEN CONVERSATION, BUT IT IS
04:13:27PM NOT REALLY -- WE ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING YOU WITH OUR
04:13:29PM PROFESSIONAL RECOMMENDATION OF HOW TO MOVE FORWARD AND
04:13:32PM LAYING OUT THE PLAN AND GOING TO PRESENT THAT PLAN NOT
04:13:34PM NECESSARILY NEGOTIATING ON -- LIKE I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT
04:13:40PM SEEM LIKE A WHOLE NEGOTIATION.
04:13:42PM IT IS A STRATEGY AND A PLAN.
04:13:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
04:13:44PM NO, NO.
04:13:45PM FIRST PLACE, I AM IN DISAGREEMENT ON POLICY IS NOT A --
04:13:50PM SOMETHING THAT -- NOT AN INDICATION OR INDICTMENT THAT WE
04:13:54PM DON'T TRUST.
04:13:54PM SECONDLY, THIS IS A DECISION-MAKING BODY.
04:13:57PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: EXCUSE ME.
04:14:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ORLANDO GUDES IS NOT HERE ANYMORE AND A
04:14:04PM WHOLE ANOTHER GROUP OF PEOPLE.
04:14:05PM WE BRING THESE THINGS BEFORE US, WE ARE ENTITLED TO
04:14:08PM RE-EVALUATE THESE ISSUES WHEN WE COME TO COUNCIL.
04:14:12PM I AS A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND AM ENTITLED TO
04:14:15PM RE-EVALUATE.
04:14:16PM NOTHING SET IN STONE.
04:14:18PM YOU DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK JUST BECAUSE I QUESTION SOMETHING
04:14:22PM I DON'T TRUST STAFF.
04:14:24PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: PAUSE FOR A SECOND.
04:14:25PM YOU MUST HAVE MISHEARD OR MISINTERPRETED SOMETHING THAT I
04:14:28PM JUST SAID.
04:14:29PM I WAS SAYING THAT COUNCILMAN GUDES BROUGHT UP THE SAME
04:14:32PM ISSUES THAT YOU BROUGHT UP BEFORE.
04:14:33PM WHEN YOU TALK OF ENTITLEMENT, CLEAR WHERE THE ENTITLEMENT
04:14:38PM IS.
04:14:38PM LET'S TIME OUT FOR A SECOND.
04:14:40PM YOU MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I AM SAYING.
04:14:43PM I AM NOT TELLING YOU OR SAYING TO YOU THAT WE ARE NOT --
04:14:47PM THAT I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULDN'T BE QUESTIONING US.
04:14:50PM I AM SAYING ALL OF THE ACTIONS WE HAVE TAKEN BECAUSE WE HAVE
04:14:54PM DONE THIS AS A BODY MOVING FORWARD.
04:14:56PM NOT ARBITRARY.
04:14:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS A MOVING TARGET.
04:15:01PM ECONOMY IS A MOVING TARGET.
04:15:03PM THE NEEDS ARE A MOVING TARGET.
04:15:06PM WE DIDN'T GET THE MILLAGE INCREASE.
04:15:09PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: CORRECT.
04:15:09PM ALL REFLECTED IN THE ROAD MAP.
04:15:12PM WHAT IS PRESENTED AS AN ADMINISTRATIVE BODY -- FIRST OF ALL,
04:15:16PM LET'S BACK UP.
04:15:17PM THE MAYOR MADE A GOAL WITHOUT ANY INFORMATION ON DATA,
04:15:22PM HOUSING NEEDS BEFORE COVID.
04:15:23PM ANY OF THAT.
04:15:24PM IT WAS A VERY AMBITIOUS GOAL KNOWING THAT WE HAVE AN
04:15:27PM AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
04:15:29PM SINCE THEN, COVID HAPPENED AND WE REDIRECTED OUR FUNDS THAT
04:15:35PM WERE NOT YET COMMITTED TO KEEPING PEOPLE HOUSING STABLE.
04:15:39PM THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS KEPT 19,000 PEOPLE HOUSING STABLE
04:15:43PM SINCE THE MAYOR TOOK OFFICE TO DATE.
04:15:45PM I AM NOT HERE TO DEBATE THE MAYOR'S AMBITIOUS GOAL, WHETHER
04:15:49PM WE MEET IT OR NOT.
04:15:50PM I HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT IN MY MESSAGE TO THIS BODY AND TO
04:15:54PM THIS COMMUNITY ON MY DEDICATION TO HELPING THE MOST
04:15:58PM VULNERABLE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
04:15:59PM I AM SAYING TO YOU THAT MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION IS WHAT IS
04:16:06PM BEING PRESENTED TO YOU.
04:16:07PM I GIVE YOU THE FACTS.
04:16:08PM I KNOW WHO THE LEGISLATIVE BODY IS.
04:16:10PM I KNOW WHO MAKES THE POLICIES.
04:16:12PM I DON'T EVER QUESTION THAT.
04:16:13PM NOT ONE OF YOU COUNCILMEMBERS CAN EVER SAY I PUSH BACK ON
04:16:17PM YOUR POLICY.
04:16:17PM NO, I AM VERY CLEAR.
04:16:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STOP FOR ONE SECOND.
04:16:20PM YOU SAID YOU HAVE TO TRUST YOUR -- NO, WE TAKE THE
04:16:24PM INFORMATION.
04:16:24PM NOT NECESSARILY -- NOT A REFLEXION.
04:16:27PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: YOU TRUST THE STAFF TO BRING YOU THE
04:16:29PM INFORMATION AND INFORM.
04:16:30PM SO THAT YOU MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
04:16:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE YOU GO.
04:16:33PM I DON'T THINK THAT IS EXACTLY YOU PHRASED IT TO BEGIN WITH.
04:16:36PM I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.
04:16:38PM AGAIN, I WANT TO RESTATE THIS.
04:16:39PM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ARE DOING FOR THIS
04:16:42PM DEPARTMENT.
04:16:43PM >>NICOLE TRAVIS: BUT YOU JUST STARTED ON A DIFFERENT NOTE.
04:16:45PM I APPRECIATE YOU AS WELL.
04:16:47PM AND I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT.
04:16:49PM WHEN YOU TELL ME FIRST OF ALL, AND YOU START DICTATING TO ME
04:16:53PM WHO THE POLICYMAKERS ARE, YOU CAN NOT QUESTION FROM THE DATE
04:16:57PM THAT I STARTED HERE THAT I AM NOT CLEAR WHO THE POLICYMAKERS
04:17:00PM ARE.
04:17:00PM I HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT WITH THIS COUNCIL.
04:17:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO RECOMMEND WHAT I HAVE BEEN -- WHAT
04:17:06PM I HAVE DONE SINCE JOINING COUNCIL WHICH IS TO DO A MONTHLY
04:17:11PM MEETING WITH HOUSING STAFF TO LEARN SO I WOULD RECOMMEND
04:17:15PM THAT IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT YOU
04:17:17PM WANT TO KNOW.
04:17:18PM I LEARNED A LOT AND I HAVE TO TAKE THE OWN NEWS ON MYSELF.
04:17:22PM WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME ON THE DAIS TO BECOME EXPERTS.
04:17:26PM YOU HAVE TO DO THE HOMEWORK.
04:17:28PM I WOULD DEFINITELY RECOMMEND --
04:17:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
04:17:35PM HURTAK.
04:17:35PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:17:37PM TO SET -- SET A WORKSHOP FEBRUARY 29 STRICTLY DEDICATED TO
04:17:42PM HOUSING.
04:17:42PM ALL IN FAVOR.
04:17:44PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:17:47PM ALL RIGHT.
04:17:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A CHANGE TO THE CALENDAR, MADAM CLERK.
04:17:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE NO MEETING ON 29th.
04:17:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET US BE ADVISED THAT A DAY THAT COUNCIL
04:18:04PM WAS NOT MEETING.
04:18:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIVE MEETINGS -- WE DIDN'T HAVE A
04:18:08PM MEETING AND NOW WE HAVE A MEETING.
04:18:10PM ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:18:11PM NEXT UP, ITEM NUMBER 78.
04:18:13PM THERE WAS NO REQUEST FOR STAFF.
04:18:14PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR 76?
04:18:19PM 76?
04:18:20PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:18:21PM DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
04:18:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
04:18:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:18:26PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:18:27PM AYE.
04:18:28PM ITEM 77 GOES WITH ITEM 76.
04:18:31PM WE DID NOT REQUEST STAFF FOR THIS.
04:18:32PM MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR 77.
04:18:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
04:18:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:18:42PM SECOND FROM.
04:18:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
04:18:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VIERA WITH THE SECOND.
04:18:45PM ITEM NUMBER 78 IS REGARDING FIRE RESCUE.
04:18:48PM THIS IS ALSO IN CONJUNCTION WITH NUMBER 8 WHICH WE DID NOT
04:18:53PM VOTE ON.
04:18:53PM MR. ROGERO HAS WALKED IN THE ROOM.
04:18:55PM IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD, SIR, TAKE IT AWAY.
04:18:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
04:19:01PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
04:19:02PM GOOD AFTERNOON, DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
04:19:05PM OF COURSE THIS IS A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION REQUESTED BY
04:19:09PM COUNCIL FOUR FIVE FIRE RESCUE FACILITIES WE HAVE BEEN
04:19:14PM DISCUSSING FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS.
04:19:15PM WE PROVIDED A STAFF REPORT THE AFOREMENTIONED ITEM NUMBER
04:19:19PM 78.
04:19:20PM PROVIDING FURTHER DETAIL AND APOLOGIES, THEY GOT SEPARATED
04:19:24PM ON THE AGENDA.
04:19:27PM IF I COULD HAVE THE ELMO.
04:19:29PM YOU.
04:19:29PM LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU CAN SEE IT.
04:19:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE CAN, SIR.
04:19:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ALL RIGHT.
04:19:39PM YOU RECALL THIS FROM LAST YEAR, LATE LAST YEAR, FIVE FIRE
04:19:43PM FACILITIES AS ADOPTED IN THE 24 TO 28 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
04:19:48PM PLAN ALONG WITH THE -- THE ANTICIPATED BUDGETS FOR EACH YEAR
04:19:55PM AND BASICALLY IDENTIFYING THE PRIORITY.
04:19:57PM AGAIN, FIRE STATION 24 HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
04:20:00PM AND WE TOOK THAT -- WE TOOK FROM THAT THAT IS A VERY HIGH
04:20:05PM PRIORITY FOR COUNCIL ALTHOUGH ALL OF THEM ARE HIGH
04:20:08PM PRIORITIES.
04:20:08PM WE CAN PROVIDE THIS AGAIN IF WOULD YOU LIKE, IN TERMS OF
04:20:14PM HARD COPY.
04:20:15PM AND THEN BECAUSE WE ANTICIPATE FINANCING THESE PROJECTS --
04:20:25PM AND I WILL GET IT UP THERE SO YOU CAN SEE IT.
04:20:27PM YOU WILL RECALL THIS SLIDE, I AM SURE, FROM THE SAME MEETING
04:20:31PM WHERE WE HAVE INCLUDED THE ENTIRETY OF THAT FINANCING
04:20:35PM PICTURE, BOTH THE PROJECT PROCEEDS, PRINCIPLE PRINCIPAL AND
04:20:41PM THE ANTICIPATED INTEREST COST AT THIS TIME.
04:20:42PM ANNUAL PAYMENTS OF A LITTLE OVER $7 MILLION.
04:20:45PM PRETTY HEALTHY INTEREST RATE RIGHT NOW.
04:20:48PM THE FEDERAL RESERVE HAVEN'T BEGUN CUTTING ALTHOUGH THEY ARE
04:20:52PM ANTICIPATED TO AT SOME POINT NEXT YEAR AND THE BOND FOR
04:20:57PM ABOUT 30 YEARS.
04:20:58PM >> THIS YEAR.
04:21:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SORRY?
04:21:05PM YES.
04:21:05PM THAT IS WHAT THE EXPERTS ARE SAYING.
04:21:07PM THEY WILL CUT THIS YEAR.
04:21:08PM TODAY'S INFLATION REPORT WAS A LITTLE HIGHER THAN I THINK
04:21:11PM THE EXPERTS ANTICIPATED.
04:21:13PM AND THAT IS ANTICIPATED TO MAYBE PUT A DAMPER ON RATE CUTS
04:21:17PM -- I DID -- DID I SAY NEXT YEAR?
04:21:19PM OH, I APOLOGIZE.
04:21:20PM I GOT TO GET MYSELF INTO -- CALENDAR YEAR 2024.
04:21:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEXT YEAR IS NOW.
04:21:29PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NEXT YEAR IS NOW.
04:21:30PM PEOPLE WERE PROBABLY LIKE, WHAT?
04:21:33PM NEXT YEAR?
04:21:34PM THIS IS THE OVERALL COMPLETE PICTURE.
04:21:38PM IF I CAN JUST KIND OF RECAP WHAT A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION
04:21:43PM IS FOR COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.
04:21:44PM WE ASK COUNCIL TO APPROVE THESE FROM TIME TO TIME.
04:21:49PM IT IS -- IT IS IMPORTANT TO STRESS RIGHT FROM THE OUTSET
04:21:52PM THIS IS NOT COUNCIL ISSUING DEBT NOR AUTHORIZING THE
04:21:56PM ADMINISTRATION TO ISSUE DEBT YET.
04:21:59PM THAT IS A DECISION FOR CITY COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE.
04:22:02PM WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU.
04:22:03PM BUT WHAT THIS DOES IS IMPLEMENT THIS REALLY SOUND AND
04:22:07PM PROACTIVE FINANCIAL PLANNING MECHANISM TO GIVE COUNCIL AND
04:22:11PM THE CITY THE FLEXIBILITY TO START SPENDING MONEY NOW ON
04:22:16PM THESE FIVE FACILITIES, RATHER THAN WAIT FOR THE ISSUANCE OF
04:22:19PM DEBT.
04:22:20PM YOU HAVE HEARD BOND COUNSEL NOT TOO LONG AGO COME UP HERE
04:22:26PM AND EXPLAIN WHY IT IS A GOOD IDEA FROM A FINANCIAL
04:22:29PM MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE, AND ALSO SHARE WITH YOU SOME
04:22:31PM EXAMPLES OF SOME LOCALITIES FOR WHATEVER REASON HAVEN'T DONE
04:22:35PM THIS.
04:22:35PM WHEN THEY GO TO ISSUE THE DEBT, THEY HAVE ALREADY STARTED
04:22:40PM SPENDING.
04:22:40PM THEY HAVEN'T DONE A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION AND HER OUT.
04:22:46PM THEY CAN NOT REIMBURSE THEMSELVES.
04:22:48PM ONE EXAMPLE OF ONE LOCALITY OF ABOUT $5 MILLION.
04:22:51PM IT IS REQUIRED BY FEDERAL TAX LAW.
04:22:53PM IF WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT FLEXIBILITY.
04:22:56PM AND, AGAIN, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE PROVIDE YOU
04:23:01PM THAT FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE THE DECISIONS YOU WANT TO MAKE WHEN
04:23:04PM THEY ARE BEST MADE.
04:23:06PM I CAN ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
04:23:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:23:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:23:13PM MR. ROGERO, WE HAVE SPOKEN A LOT ON THIS RECENTLY AND HAD
04:23:18PM COMMUNICATION.
04:23:18PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THIS.
04:23:20PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND SOME QUESTIONS THAT FOLKS MAY HAVE.
04:23:23PM AND DONNIE WITH LOCAL 754.
04:23:25PM WITH REGARDS TO -- IF WE SUPPORT THIS, WHICH I BELIEVE THAT
04:23:30PM WE WILL, WHAT ASSURANCES DO WE HAVE THAT THESE FUNDS ARE
04:23:36PM GOING TO BE SPENT ON THESE FIVE ITEMS, THREE REFURBISHED
04:23:40PM STATIONS, MAINTENANCE FACILITY OF FIRE STATION 24.
04:23:43PM WHAT ASSURANCE DO WE HAVE?
04:23:45PM OBVIOUSLY I WILL MOTION THAT WE HAVE 120-DAY, WHATEVER,
04:23:50PM UPDATES ON THIS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THIS.
04:23:51PM BECAUSE A LOT OF MONEY AND A LOT OF TRUST ON THE PUBLIC FROM
04:23:55PM SOMETHING.
04:23:55PM BUT WHAT ASSURANCES IN THAT REGARD, SIR.
04:23:58PM >> THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.
04:23:59PM AND YOU ARE READING MY MIND IN SOME RESPECTS.
04:24:02PM IT HAS BEEN APPROVED AS PART OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
04:24:07PM PLAN.
04:24:07PM COUNCIL WILL GET OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO OVERSIGHT THIS
04:24:11PM FUNDING FOLLOWING SHOULD YOU DECIDE THE APPROVAL OF THE
04:24:13PM REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION.
04:24:15PM WE WILL COME TO YOU AS I SAID FOR A DEBT ISSUANCE.
04:24:18PM WE WILL COME TO YOU FOR A CONTRACT OR CONTRACTS ASSOCIATED
04:24:22PM WITH THESE PROJECTS.
04:24:23PM AND, AGAIN, SOMETHING OF THIS AMOUNT AND 1078 KIND OF
04:24:32PM PERIODIC REPORTING.
04:24:33PM WE REALLY LIKE -- I THINK THAT EVERYBODY LIKES THAT
04:24:35PM STORMWATER WATER QUARTERLY REPORT THAT CITY COUNCIL GETS AND
04:24:40PM WE ARE PROVIDING MORE AND MORE PERIODIC REPORTS TO COUNCIL.
04:24:43PM BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN APPROVED THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
04:24:47PM AND BECAUSE FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, $20 MILLION HAS
04:24:52PM BEEN APPROACH RATED IN THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, I MEAN
04:24:56PM FULLY BUDGETED, THE FOUR OUTYEARS COULD CHANGE, AND OFTEN
04:25:02PM THEY DO CHANGE.
04:25:02PM THIS FUNDING ON ONLY THE SPENDING THAT COUNCIL APPROVES.
04:25:07PM WE WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU TO SPEND IT ON SOMETHING
04:25:09PM ELSE.
04:25:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
04:25:11PM YOU CAN'T SPEND IT ON QUILTED TOILET PAPER AT A REC CENTER.
04:25:17PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AS ATTRACTIVE AS THAT SOUNDS, NO, SIR.
04:25:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST AGAIN, WE KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THIS
04:25:24PM QUESTION, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT
04:25:26PM BECAUSE A LOT OF MONEY FOR A PURPOSE THAT THE PUBLIC REALLY,
04:25:30PM REALLY SUPPORTS.
04:25:31PM I BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC SUPPORTS THAT.
04:25:32PM SECOND, IF I MAY, WITH REGARDS TO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE SPOKE
04:25:36PM YESTERDAY $12 MILLION ADVOCATED FOR LAND FOR THE MAINTENANCE
04:25:42PM FACILITY.
04:25:43PM SOMETHING FOR $9 MILLION.
04:25:45PM WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT $ MILLION?
04:25:51PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF AVENUES FOR
04:25:56PM THIS FACILITY.
04:25:57PM $12 MILLION IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
04:25:59PM IF WE FIND A PIECE OF LAND FOR $3 MILLION.
04:26:02PM FIRST THING WE WILL TO IS NOT SPEND THE REMAINING FUNDING.
04:26:05PM THAT IS WHY THESE ARE "NOT TO EXCEED" AMOUNTS.
04:26:08PM THE CONTRACTS WILL BE WHAT THE CONTRACTS WILL BE.
04:26:10PM OUR BEST ESTIMATE BY A NUMBER OF PROFESSIONALS BASED ON THIS
04:26:15PM POINT IN TIME.
04:26:15PM THINGS HAPPEN.
04:26:16PM CONTRACTS WE BRING TO YOU WILL BE WHAT THEY WILL BE.
04:26:20PM THE BEST-CASE SCENARIO.
04:26:22PM THEY ARE LESS THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED.
04:26:24PM AND WE WILL NEVER SPEND MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE AUTHORIZED BUT
04:26:27PM WE LIKE TO LEAVE OURSELVES AND COUNCIL SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH
04:26:32PM THOSE NOT-TO-EXCEED AMOUNTS.
04:26:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF WE OPERATE THIS, AROUND ALLOW THE CITY OF
04:26:42PM TAMPA TO SPEND AND WITHIN NINE MONTHS, WE WILL COME BACK FOR
04:26:45PM THE ACTUAL BONDING RESOLUTION FROM CITY COUNCIL, IS THAT
04:26:48PM CORRECT?
04:26:48PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
04:26:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND 754 IS
04:26:53PM HERE.
04:26:53PM WE APPRECIATE ALL THEIR AMAZING HARD WORK.
04:26:57PM THIS IS A HOME RUN FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
04:26:59PM YOU TALKED OF THE QUARTERLY UPDATES WE GET ON STORM WARE.
04:27:03PM FOR ME THIS IS SIMILAR.
04:27:05PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THINKS BIG IN AN AREA WHERE WE NEED
04:27:07PM TO THINK BIGGER.
04:27:08PM YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
04:27:10PM NOT JUST BIG, BUT BIGGER AND THE GROWTH OF THE CITY THAT
04:27:13PM GROWS IN KENT WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY MASTER PLAN
04:27:20PM AS THIS CITY GROWS, THE NEED THE PUBLIC SAFETY WITH IT.
04:27:23PM I PROPOSED A VERY SMALL TAX IN 2023 THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED
04:27:28PM FOR POLICE AND FIRE, AND, AGAIN, IT DIDN'T GET SUPPORT.
04:27:32PM THAT IS FINE.
04:27:33PM NOBODY LIKE TAXES, BUT I GO THE NEED THAT I WAS TRYING TO
04:27:37PM ADDRESS AND THAT IS NOT GOING AWAY SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT
04:27:40PM OTHER SOLUTIONS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
04:27:42PM AND THE NEEDS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT ARE THREE
04:27:45PM FIRE STATIONS TO BE REFURBISHED OR REPLACED.
04:27:49PM I RECENTLY WENT TO FIRE STATION 9 IN WEST TAMPA.
04:27:52PM I AM NO ENGINEER.
04:27:53PM NO EXPERT ON THAT STUFF, BUT THAT FIRE STATION TO SAY -- IT
04:27:58PM SAW BETTER DAYS 40 YEARS AGO.
04:28:00PM YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
04:28:01PM I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF THAT STATION WOULDN'T GET ENTIRE
04:28:05PM THREE REPLACED.
04:28:06PM THE GOODS THING IS I DISCUSSED WITH SOME FOLKS THAT THIS
04:28:09PM PLAN CAN TAKE A STATION FOR WEST TAMPA, FOR EXAMPLE, AN AREA
04:28:14PM THAT IS GROWING TREMENDOUSLY.
04:28:15PM AND NOT JUST MEET THE PRESENT FOOTPRINT OF THAT.
04:28:20PM MY HOPE -- IF IT GETS REPLACED DOESN'T JUST MEET THE PRESENT
04:28:24PM FOOTPRINT AND EXPANDS FOR MORE MEN AND WOMEN TO COME IN,
04:28:28PM MORE VEHICLES TO COME IN, FOR GROWING WEST TAMPA AND OTHER
04:28:31PM AREAS.
04:28:31PM GIVES A NEW FIRE STATION FOR NORTH TAMPA.
04:28:34PM I WAS TALKING TO SOME FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THAT
04:28:38PM YESTERDAY, AND THAT WAS PIVOTAL IN A MAINTENANCE FACILITY.
04:28:41PM THAT IS IMPORTANT.
04:28:42PM SO WHAT I SUBJECT WE DO AT THIS TIME, COUPLE OF THINGS TO
04:28:47PM MOVE THIS FORWARD TODAY.
04:28:47PM MOTION FOR A QUARTERLY UPDATE FOR THIS, JUST LIKE WE DO WITH
04:28:53PM STORMWATER.
04:28:54PM AND SOMETHING ELSE, BY THE WAY, HAS ANYBODY ON COUNCIL MADE
04:28:57PM A MOTION ON THE AUTOMOTIVE CAD.
04:29:03PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WAS THAT YOU OR MR. CLENDENIN ON THE
04:29:06PM CAD SYSTEM?
04:29:07PM DO YOU REMEMBER THAT?
04:29:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM NOT QUITE SURE WHERE I AM ON THAT, BUT I
04:29:12PM KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT.
04:29:13PM I THINK WE WILL HAVE TO DIG AND FIND IT.
04:29:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: I MEAN WHAT IS COMING UP.
04:29:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COMING UP, I AM NOT SURE.
04:29:20PM WE WILL ALL HAVE TO LOOK.
04:29:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL WAIT FOR COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN TO GET
04:29:27PM BACK.
04:29:27PM AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS BONDING ISSUE AND
04:29:33PM SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS VERY URGENTLY.
04:29:35PM I HOPE WHICH HAVE A UNANIMOUS VOTE ON THIS.
04:29:37PM WE BOND FOR A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE GOTTEN UNANIMOUS
04:29:41PM SUPPORT FROM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
04:29:43PM SOME NOT IN THE PAST BUT THIS COUNCIL AND LAST TWO COUNCILS
04:29:47PM GOT UNANIMOUS SUPPORT.
04:29:50PM AND I AM SURE OUR FRIENDS IN FIRE.
04:29:53PM NOBODY LIKES BONDING BUT SOMETHING THAT IS NECESSARY.
04:29:56PM THE KIND OF BIG PROJECTS THE CITIES BOND FOR.
04:29:59PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:30:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND COUNCILMAN
04:30:03PM CARLSON.
04:30:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, I THINK THIS IS WAY PREMATURE.
04:30:06PM I AM CERTAINLY NOT READY TO VOTE ON THIS.
04:30:10PM WE ARE NOT READY.
04:30:11PM I ASKED -- TO TALK TO MR. ROGERO ABOUT GETTING A BREAKDOWN
04:30:15PM OF HOW MUCH EACH OF THESE THINGS WILL COST AND WHEN WE
04:30:19PM EXPECT THEM TO BE SHOVEL READY.
04:30:20PM I THINK PUTTING ALL OF THIS ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW IS TOO
04:30:23PM MUCH.
04:30:23PM I EVEN TALKED TO FIRE.
04:30:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, MAN.
04:30:28PM I THINK YOU WERE OUT OF THE OFFICE.
04:30:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK I PROBABLY WAS.
04:30:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DID SHARE THIS AND I DON'T KNOW IF --
04:30:36PM THIS STEMS FROM THE CIP IN THE WORKSHOP IN OCTOBER.
04:30:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APOLOGIZE.
04:30:42PM WE DON'T HAVE BREAKS SO I HAD TO RUN TO THE LADIES ROOM.
04:30:45PM IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THIS UP.
04:30:47PM PERSONALLY FOR ME, IT IS NOT SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT,
04:30:51PM BUT PUTTING $200 MILLION IN RIGHT NOW.
04:30:53PM AND I THINK THE OTHER THING I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IS
04:30:56PM WHAT OUR DEBT RATIO LOOKS LIKE.
04:31:01PM DO WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE CHARTS OF WHERE WE ARE?
04:31:03PM YOU ALWAYS BRING WITH THE BUDGET.
04:31:06PM THEY ARE VERY NICE.
04:31:07PM THEY SHOW HOW MUCH DEBT WE HAVE AND WHEN WE ARE GOING TO GET
04:31:11PM RID OF IT.
04:31:11PM I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
04:31:14PM I WOULD LOVE.
04:31:15PM I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT THIS INFORMATION AND I AM GLAD WE ARE
04:31:19PM TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS
04:31:21PM LIKE.
04:31:21PM RIGHT NOW THIS HAS A WONDERFUL NUMBER OF $116 MILLION WHICH
04:31:26PM IS FEASIBLE HONESTLY.
04:31:27PM KIND OF CRAZY TO SAY THAT, A $1.9 BILLION BUDGET AND VERY
04:31:34PM FEASIBLE.
04:31:34PM WHAT IS SCARY IS THE FACT THAT THE INTEREST IS ALMOST DOUBLE
04:31:39PM THIS AND MY CONCERN IS --
04:31:42PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT AND YOU
04:31:45PM MIGHT IS ALSO BEEN OUT OF THE ROOM WHEN I HAVE SAID THAT.
04:31:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS ALMOST DOUBLE.
04:31:51PM IF WE ARE ABLE TO MAYBE DO SMALLER CHUNKS BY THE YEAR AND
04:31:55PM PLAN, THAT -- THIS IS MY CONCERN.
04:31:57PM AND THAT'S WHY I REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE -- A, THE -- I
04:32:03PM SEE THE SPECIFIC COST.
04:32:04PM IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT SPECIFIC COST ONE.
04:32:07PM AND REALLY LOOK AT IT.
04:32:10PM FIRE STATION 6, IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS GOING COST $26 MILLION.
04:32:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT A LITTLE MORE DETAIL OF THAT OF WHAT
04:32:31PM TO EXPECT.
04:32:31PM DOES THAT INCLUDE EQUIPMENT AND WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT
04:32:34PM WHEN WE ARE TALKING OF THESE NUMBERS.
04:32:35PM I WOULD LIKE A BREAKDOWN FOR EACH OF THESE STATIONS AND
04:32:39PM MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY AND WHERE WE ARE WITH THE CITY WITH
04:32:43PM OUR DEBT.
04:32:43PM AND HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THIS DONE CORRECTLY, BUT
04:32:48PM DON'T SADDLE THE CITIZENS WITH SO MUCH DEBT RIGHT AWAY THAT
04:32:52PM WE DON'T DO OTHER THINGS TO GET DONE.
04:32:55PM THIS HAS TO GET DONE, BUT $20 MILLION IN ONE FELL SWOOP WHEN
04:33:00PM WE CAN DO SMALLER DEBT IS SOMETHING I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO
04:33:07PM LOOK AT.
04:33:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I AM SORRY, IF I MAY -- JUST TO CLARIFY SO
04:33:12PM WE ARE ALL ON 9 SAME PAGE.
04:33:14PM WE WILL BE COMING TO YOU WITH THAT DEBT RATIO AND
04:33:20PM PRESENTATION ON THE 25th BOTH GENERAL FUND, ENTERPRISE FUND
04:33:23PM CITY WIDE BECAUSE IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW.
04:33:25PM AND WE DO PUBLISH IT IN THE BUDGET.
04:33:28PM AND WE DO PUBLISH IT IN OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, BUT WE
04:33:31PM RARELY TALK ABOUT IT IN -- IN -- LESS DETAIL TERMS FOR
04:33:40PM COUNCIL AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
04:33:41PM WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT PRESENTATION, BECAUSE --
04:33:45PM WELL, WE ARE INTERESTED IN DEBT.
04:33:46PM SECONDLY, IF I COULD -- -- AS YOU STATED A SIGNIFICANT
04:33:54PM INTEREST COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
04:33:56PM ONE OF THE REASONS WE PRESENT OF THIS IS TO GIVE COUNCIL AND
04:34:00PM THE PUBLIC A BIG PICTURE.
04:34:01PM IN REAL LIFE.
04:34:03PM WE WILL PROBABLY END UP DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU DESCRIBED.
04:34:05PM ISSUING INDIVIDUAL FINANCING INSTRUMENTS BASED ON WHERE WE
04:34:10PM ARE AT IN THE PROCESS FOR EACH OF THESE FACILITIES.
04:34:13PM AND THE -- JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, FIRE STATION NUMBER 10, YOU
04:34:19PM SEE AGAIN I REITERATE AN AGGRESSIVE SCHEDULE.
04:34:27PM BIG SPENDING ON THAT IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO OCCUR EARLIER
04:34:31PM THAN 2027.
04:34:32PM WE WOULD NOT ISSUE DEBT FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT RIGHT
04:34:35PM NOW.
04:34:35PM BECAUSE WE ARE SITTING ON INTEREST NOT SPENDING THE MONEY,
04:34:38PM BUT SO WE WILL BE DOING -- WE DO ANTICIPATE DOING INDIVIDUAL
04:34:43PM DEBT ISSUANCES AND ROLLING IT UP INTO ONE LARGE BOND.
04:34:47PM SO YOU ARE -- YOU ARE COMMENTS ARE WELL RECEIVED.
04:34:51PM WE WILL DO THIS INCREMENTALLY.
04:34:53PM AND, AGAIN, WE WILL DO THIS WHERE WE WILL RECOMMEND THIS
04:34:58PM WHENEVER COUNCIL IS READY.
04:35:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CARLSON.
04:35:01PM YES, SIR?
04:35:02PM OH.
04:35:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I REALLY LOOK FORWARD
04:35:06PM TO SEEING THE CURRENT BOND THINGS BEFORE THIS.
04:35:09PM BECAUSE WE ALL SUPPORT BUILDING THESE FIRE STATIONS.
04:35:12PM BUT I -- I REALLY FEEL LIKE I NEED TO KNOW.
04:35:15PM AND THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW AND EVEN WHEN I TALK TO THE
04:35:18PM FIRE FIGHTERS, IF HE WANT TO KNOW, LIKE, WHY IS THIS SO MUCH
04:35:22PM MONEY?
04:35:23PM WHERE ARE WE LOOKING -- THE FROM RATE AND HOW WE CAN MAKE
04:35:26PM SURE THAT WE ARE DOING THIS RESPONSIBLY, BECAUSE HERE IS THE
04:35:30PM THING.
04:35:31PM THAT IS JUST THESE FIVE.
04:35:33PM WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS DOWN THE LINE TO FIX OUR OTHER FIRE
04:35:37PM STATIONS.
04:35:37PM SO WE NEED TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO
04:35:41PM BE REDONE YEAR -- YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT UNTIL WE MAINTAIN AND
04:35:46PM UPDATED ALL OF THE FIRE STATIONS.
04:35:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
04:35:52PM JUST TO CLARIFY, WE ARE NOT ASKING COUNCIL TO ISSUE DEBT
04:35:55PM RIGHT NOW.
04:35:56PM THANK YOU.
04:35:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
04:35:59PM AND I HAVE THE SAME -- YOU AND I HAVE SPOKEN -- MR. ROGERO
04:36:04PM AND I SPOKEN PRIVATELY ABOUT THIS TOO.
04:36:06PM BUT LIKE MY COLLEAGUES.
04:36:08PM BUT I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE.
04:36:11PM JANUARY 25, AN ITEM I PUT ON THE AGENDA AND YOU AGREED TO
04:36:15PM PUT ON THERE THAT WE TALK OF THE BONDING.
04:36:17PM ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND THE RATIO.
04:36:21PM THE RESERVE FUND FOR KEEPING THE HIGH BOND RATINGS.
04:36:24PM BUT WE NEED TO LOOK OVERALL OF WHAT OUR DEBT IS, AND WE CAN
04:36:28PM NOT BORROW OUR WAY OUT OF THIS.
04:36:30PM WE CAN'T SAY SCREW THE NEXT COUNCIL, SCREW THE NEXT MAYOR,
04:36:34PM SCREW THE -- WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING GOOD
04:36:38PM DECISIONS NOW FOR THAT WILL BE FOR THE LONG TERM OF OUR
04:36:43PM CITY.
04:36:43PM JUST BECAUSE THE TAX PASSED DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULD FIND
04:36:47PM MONEY FOR OTHER WAYS.
04:36:49PM KEEP IN MIND -- AND THIS GOES TO KIND OF TO THE ISSUE THAT
04:36:53PM WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
04:36:56PM AS WE TALKED TO STAFF, STAFF HAVEN'T ALWAYS BEEN FORTHRIGHT
04:37:00PM WITH US.
04:37:00PM SOMETIMES THEY FLAT OUT TOLD US THINGS THAT WEREN'T TRUE.
04:37:05PM NOT YOU, BUT OTHERS HAVE DONE THAT AND DIFFICULT PAUSE THE
04:37:08PM REALLY GOOD STAFF PEOPLE WHO TELLING THE TRUTH GET HIT
04:37:14PM SOMETIMES WITH THE STAFF THAT DON'T TELL THE TRUTH.
04:37:17PM I HAVE TAKEN MY CONCERNS OF ABOUT THAT TO THE MAYOR AND THE
04:37:22PM CHIEF OF STAFF AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
04:37:24PM THE EXAMPLE WAS COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR YEARS WAS TRYING TO GET
04:37:29PM US A NEW STATION AND MORE THAN A YEARS AGO APPROVED 15
04:37:33PM MILLION AND THAT MONEY WAS MOVED WITHOUT TELLING US AND THAT
04:37:39PM SHOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.
04:37:40PM THERE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE ABILITY TO MOVE THE MONEY
04:37:43PM WITHOUT LETTING US KNOW.
04:37:45PM WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING FOR A FIRE STATION AROUND THE NEXT
04:37:48PM BUDGETING PROCESS THAT IT HAVEN'T BEEN SPENT.
04:37:50PM TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS WERE ALLOCATED AT THE ASK OF
04:37:58PM CHAIR MANISCALCO FOR A PARK.
04:37:59PM WE FOUND OUT A YEAR LATER WASN'T SPENT.
04:38:02PM TAMPA UNION STATION, ALLOCATED $2.5 MILLION.
04:38:05PM THING EATEN UP BY TERMITES AND NO ONE PUT A TENT ON IT.
04:38:12PM WE CAN'T FORCE THEM TO DO SOMETHING BUT SHOULDN'T HAVE THE
04:38:17PM RIGHT TO MOVE MONEY INTO SOMETHING ELSE.
04:38:20PM I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE IS FROM LEGAL, BUT I WANT LEGAL TO
04:38:25PM TELL US THAT THIS IS THAT THERE WILL BE DISCLOSURES AND
04:38:35PM MONEY WILL NOT BE SPENT ON ANYTHING ELSE.
04:38:37PM WILL BE MONEY BE SHIFTED REQUEST PROJECTS OR ONLY MONEY FOR
04:38:43PM THESE PROJECTS.
04:38:44PM SORRY WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR, BUT IN THE PAST WE APPROVED CIP.
04:38:49PM THEY SAY YOU WILL NOT PROVE IT UNTIL YOU GET THE CONTRACT.
04:38:53PM AND UNTIL THE CONTRACT, THE RFP.
04:38:57PM WHERE -- WE DIDN'T APPROVE IT.
04:38:59PM BUT WE APPROVED AN INITIAL BUDGET.
04:39:01PM YOU GUYS APPROVED IT.
04:39:03PM WHEN APPROVED THE CIP, THEY SAID YOU ARE NOT REALLY
04:39:06PM APPROVING IT.
04:39:07PM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NOT A HAT TRICK THAT THE
04:39:11PM PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
04:39:12PM I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY CAN'T BE MOVED
04:39:15PM TO SOMETHING ELSE AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE
04:39:19PM DISCLOSURE IT IS MONEY IS MOVED AROUND, AND IDEALLY, WHEN
04:39:23PM THE MONEY IS SPENT OR NOT SPENT.
04:39:24PM IF THE DECISION IS MADE NOT TO SPEND IT, WE NEED TO KNOW
04:39:29PM WHY.
04:39:29PM THE OTHER THING -- YOU ALL FOUND A MILLION -- A MILLION ONE
04:39:33PM FOR FIRE.
04:39:34PM AND IT WAS $800,000 OR SO THAT YOU PUT BACK IN THE GENERAL
04:39:38PM FUND FOR FIRE THAT COULD BE SPENT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
04:39:41PM I THINK WE ARE EXPECTING A SURPLUS THIS YEAR OVER WHAT WE
04:39:44PM HAVE ESTIMATED.
04:39:46PM WE HAVE -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA BUT WHAT
04:39:49PM WOULD WE DO WITH A SURPLUS IF WE HAD ONE.
04:39:51PM CITY COUNCIL WILL BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
04:39:52PM NOT JUST TO APPROVE SOMETHING.
04:39:55PM BUT WE SAID IF THE MONEY WAS SPENT ON SOMETHING ELSE --
04:39:58PM ANSWERING COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:40:00PM MONEY SPENT ON SOMETHING ELSE THAT CITY COUNCIL -- WE
04:40:04PM APPROVED SPENDING THE $15 MILLION FOR THE FIRE STATION TO
04:40:07PM SOMETHING ELSE AND NOBODY TOLD US THIS IS MONEY ALLOCATED
04:40:11PM FOR THE FIRE STATION.
04:40:11PM WE APPROVED MOVING IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
04:40:14PM WE NEED MAKE SURE THERE ARE PLENTY OF DISCLOSURES IN THIS.
04:40:18PM BECAUSE I AM VERY AGAINST DEBT.
04:40:20PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SURPLUS WE HAVE OVERALL IS
04:40:23PM FIRST APPLIED TO THIS SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ON A THE
04:40:26PM DEBT.
04:40:26PM YOU SEE THAT INTEREST IS DOUBLE WHATEVER THE PRINCIPAL IS.
04:40:29PM YEAH, I THINK THAT -- BUT THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH US.
04:40:36PM ANYBODY FROM LEGAL THAT CAN TELL US ABOUT WHETHER IRON-CLAD
04:40:41PM GUARANTEES THAT THIS MONEY CANNOT BE SPENT ON ANYTHING ELSE?
04:40:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
04:40:46PM ARE YOU COMING UP TO ANSWER?
04:40:49PM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE WITH LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
04:40:53PM ALL I CAN SAY THESE ARE IN THE CIP AND A COMMITMENT WE DO
04:40:56PM THESE PROJECTS, THE CIP THAT YOU GUYS HAVE APPROVED.
04:41:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF YOU DON'T MIND, I CAN ADD ON TO THAT.
04:41:04PM THERE IS THAT -- AGAIN, I HOPE YOU KNOW MY INTENT IS ALWAYS
04:41:09PM DO WHAT COUNCIL HAS APPROVED AND DIRECTED.
04:41:11PM ONE OF THE -- ONE OF THE MANY SAFEGUARDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE
04:41:16PM FINANCING ASSOCIATED WITH THESE PROJECTS WILL BE BOND
04:41:19PM COVENANTS.
04:41:20PM WE WILL BE LEGALLY PROHIBITED FROM SPENDING IT ON ANYTHING
04:41:25PM OTHER THAN WE FINANCE THIS FUNDING FOR.
04:41:27PM THAT WILL BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE BOND COVENANTS.
04:41:31PM WHEN WE GET TO THAT PART -- THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT, ETC.,
04:41:34PM ETC., WE WILL -- THAT WILL BE PART OF OUR PRESENTATION TO
04:41:37PM CITY COUNCIL FOR EACH OF THE DEBT ISSUANCES.
04:41:39PM SECONDLY, OF COURSE, AS MR. VASKE SAID, IT IS APPROVED IN
04:41:45PM THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
04:41:47PM IT TAKES CITY COUNCIL EITHER TYPICALLY NOT IN THE YEAR, BUT
04:41:52PM GOING INTO THE NEXT YEAR AND INTO THE FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL
04:41:56PM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, IT TAKES CITY COUNCIL TO CHANGE THAT
04:42:00PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
04:42:01PM NOW TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILMAN AND IF IT HAS BEEN AN
04:42:08PM OVERSIGHT ON MY PART, I APOLOGIZE, SOMETIMES CHANGES AREN'T
04:42:12PM EMPHASIZED FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IN THE THROUGH ANY ILL INTENT
04:42:15PM BUT A BIG CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND A BIG BUDGET.
04:42:20PM SOMETIMES IT CHANGES FROM ONE YEAR TO THE OTHER AREN'T
04:42:23PM EMPHASIZED AND WE WILL LOOK AT THAT GOING FORWARD AND MAKE
04:42:25PM SURE WE ARE BRINGING TO YOUR ATTENTION WHAT WE THINK YOU
04:42:28PM OUGHT TO KNOW.
04:42:28PM I GET IT.
04:42:29PM IT IS A LOT OF INFORMATION WITHIN A SOMEWHAT COMPRESSED
04:42:33PM BUDGET PROCESS.
04:42:34PM WE WILL BE -- WHEN THE CONTRACT IS SIGNED AND/OR THE DEBT IS
04:42:40PM ISSUE, WE WILL BE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO SPEND THE FUNDING ONLY
04:42:44PM ON WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.
04:42:45PM IF I CAN ANSWER -- YOU HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.
04:42:47PM CAN IT BE MOVED WITHIN THE PROJECTS?
04:42:49PM IT CAN IF WE COME TO COUNCIL AND HAVE COUNCIL MAKE THAT
04:42:53PM CHANGES.
04:42:53PM AND, AGAIN, THAT WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONTRACTS.
04:42:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
04:43:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:43:02PM SORRY, GO AHEAD.
04:43:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
04:43:06PM SO A COUPLE OF THINGS IN RESPONSE.
04:43:08PM FIRST OFF, WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE UNION HERE.
04:43:11PM DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
04:43:13PM IF YOU -- JUST BEFORE I SPEAK?
04:43:16PM I DON'T KNOW --
04:43:18PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GET THAT OUT OF YOUR WAY.
04:43:20PM >> DON SNIPES, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNION.
04:43:25PM AS WE SPOKE, IT HAS BEEN YEARS THAT WE HAVE BEEN COMING IN
04:43:29PM FRONT OF THE COUNCIL.
04:43:30PM FORMER PRESIDENT JOE GRECO IS HERE.
04:43:33PM PRESIDENT STOCCO HAS BEEN TAKING THE CHAIR OF IT NOW.
04:43:37PM THESE ARE ALL CRITICAL NEEDS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
04:43:40PM JANUARY IS THE FAFF FIRE FIGHTER CANCER AWARENESS MONTH.
04:43:48PM THE FACILITIES WE HAVE, OVER HALF OF THEM HAVE BEEN MORE
04:43:56PM PAST THEIR AGE OF USABILITY.
04:43:57PM ANOTHER EIGHT ARE WITHIN TEN YEARS OF BEING PASSED OF
04:44:04PM USABILITY.
04:44:05PM THESE CRITICAL NEEDS OF THE FIRE FIGHTERS HEALTH, SAFETY AND
04:44:09PM WELLNESS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY
04:44:13PM ARE NECESSARY.
04:44:14PM IT'S BEEN PUT OFF WAY TOO LONG.
04:44:19PM THE FIRE FIGHTERS KNOW IT.
04:44:21PM THE ADMINISTRATION KNOW IT IS.
04:44:24PM THIS MORNING, THE ADMINISTRATION RELEASED NEWS MEDIA FOOTAGE
04:44:27PM SAYING THAT THEY ARE ALIGNED WITH BUILDING NEW FIRE
04:44:30PM FACILITIES.
04:44:30PM THEY ARE ALIGNED WITH ADDING FIRE FIGHTERS AND FIRE
04:44:34PM APPARATUS WE JUST ASK IF THE BONDING PROCESS IS THERE, WE
04:44:43PM TALKED ABOUT IT PRIOR THAT WE BUILT FIVE AND SIX STATIONS AT
04:44:47PM 20-YEAR MARKS THROUGHOUT THE CITY'S TIME.
04:44:53PM IT IS TIME FOR US TO DO THE SAME THING.
04:44:56PM THESE NEEDS ARE NEEDS THAT ARE YESTERDAY'S NEEDS.
04:44:59PM THE MORE WE PUSH IT INTO THE FUTURE.
04:45:04PM WE ALREADY KNOW IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP EVEN IF WE WERE TO
04:45:08PM APPROVE IT AND START IN THE NEXT EIGHT, TEN MONTHS.
04:45:12PM THE FIRST DOORS ON ANY NEW FIRE FACILITY IS 18 MONTHS AWAY.
04:45:21PM THE LONGER WE CONSIDER AND TALK ABOUT HOW THIS LOOKS THE
04:45:28PM MORE UNSAFE THE JOB GETS FOR THE CITY'S FIRE FIGHTERS THAT
04:45:32PM THEN TRANSLATES INTO WHAT IS THE SAFETY OF THE APPARATUS
04:45:35PM THAT WE ARE TAKING TO THE TAXPAYER.
04:45:37PM SO WE JUST ASK FOR THE UNION'S STANCE.
04:45:40PM WE APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN VIERA BEING THE CHAIR.
04:45:44PM HE HAS TAKEN HEAT FROM EVERY SIDE OVER THE YEARS ON THIS.
04:45:49PM WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
04:45:52PM WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL CONSIDER AS COUNCIL.
04:45:55PM THE STAFF, HOW MUCH TIME AND ENERGY THEY PUT INTO IT.
04:45:59PM BUT IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY'S GOALS ARE ALIGNING INCLUDING
04:46:02PM THE ADMINISTRATION, THE STAFF, THE FIRE FIGHTERS, THE UNION,
04:46:06PM EVERYBODY WANTS TO COME TO SOME TYPE OF FINISH LINE.
04:46:09PM AND THAT IS ALL WE ASK.
04:46:11PM WE ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELLNESS NOT
04:46:15PM ONLY OF THE CITIZENS BUT THE FIRE FIGHTERS THAT ARE LIVING
04:46:18PM INTO IN THESE FACILITIES THAT ARE WAY OUT DATED AND ARE
04:46:22PM CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF NOW.
04:46:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
04:46:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
04:46:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU FOR THAT.
04:46:31PM THANK YOU FOR THAT, DONNY.
04:46:34PM BIG CHALLENGE.
04:46:36PM WE WANT FIRE STATIONS.
04:46:37PM WE WANT -- WE DON'T TRUST THE ADMINISTRATION.
04:46:39PM ADMINISTRATION IS SAYING WE ARE GOING TO DO IT.
04:46:41PM WE ARE GOING TO DO IT.
04:46:42PM NOW ABOUT MOVING THE GOALPOST ON THIS?
04:46:45PM I DON'T THINK -- SINCE WE ONLY HAVE FIVE MEN OF COLONEL HERE
04:46:47PM TODAY THAT WE HAVE THE VOTES TO DO THIS.
04:46:49PM IF COUNCILMEMBERS FEEL LIKE YOU NEED ADDITIONAL TIME FOR
04:46:52PM THAT, THAT IS FINE.
04:46:54PM BUT I MEAN, WE SHOULD LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING THIS TODAY
04:46:57PM RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW.
04:46:58PM THESE ARE NEEDS THAT ARE CORE, CRITICAL THAT ARE NOT GOING
04:47:01PM AWAY.
04:47:01PM WE DIDN'T FUND THEM IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.
04:47:05PM I AM TRYING TO LOOK AT OTHER METHODS OF WHICH WE CAN DO THIS
04:47:08PM AND I HOPE, AND, YES, PRAY THAT WE DO THAT.
04:47:11PM WE BOND AND FOR HANNA.
04:47:13PM WE BOND FOR THE EAST TAMPA REC CENTER AND BOND, BOND, BOND,
04:47:21PM FISCAL CONSERVATISM ON THIS ISSUE?
04:47:24PM I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK FOLKS TO RECONSIDER, RESPECTFULLY
04:47:28PM IN LIGHT OF THIS WITH ALL THE SPENDING PRIORITIES, YEAR BY
04:47:33PM YEAR, NOT SOME SORT OF FISCALLY INDULGENT THING.
04:47:37PM CORE CRITICAL NEEDS WITH AN AVAILABLE SOURCE TO FUND THEM.
04:47:41PM OTHER SOURCES THAT WE FUNDED THINGS LIKE A BUILDING FOR CITY
04:47:45PM OF TAMPA EMPLOYEES AND A NEW PARK.
04:47:46PM AND YET NOT DO IT FOR FIRE FIGHTERS?
04:47:49PM YOU KNOW, I -- I DON'T FIND THAT ACCEPTABLE.
04:47:53PM I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR.
04:47:54PM I DON'T KNOW HOW COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN --
04:47:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM GOING TO SUPPORT YOU.
04:47:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO I CAN KNOW WHAT THE VOTES ARE A AND ALL
04:48:01PM THAT KIND OF --
04:48:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE STILL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION.
04:48:03PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:48:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE IT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
04:48:10PM WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, NUMBER 8 INCLUDED FOR SOME REASON THE
04:48:13PM COMMUNITY LAND TRUST FOR $64 MILLION.
04:48:15PM THIS WASN'T JUST THE FIRE.
04:48:20PM IT HAD OTHER THINGS IN IT AS WELL.
04:48:22PM SO I AM -- THIS IS YOUR SAYING THIS IS ALL FOR FIRE AND I AM
04:48:30PM SHOWING FIRE.
04:48:31PM SHOWING FIRE.
04:48:32PM BUT IN YOUR -- IN YOUR LIST OF THINGS THAT BE WAS GOING --
04:48:36PM THAT WAS GOING TO BE PART OF THIS BOND, YOU INCLUDED $64
04:48:40PM MILLION FOR COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
04:48:41PM I TALKED TO HOUSING SAID THAT WASN'T FOR COMMUNITY LAND
04:48:45PM TRUST AND A DIFFERENT NUMBER.
04:48:47PM THAT'S WHY I ASKED FOR A BREAKDOWN OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE
04:48:51PM ON THE LIST AND ONLY FIVE OF THEM WHEN, I THINK, NINE ITEMS
04:48:57PM ON THE LIST?
04:48:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: OH, I HAVE THAT.
04:48:59PM I THOUGHT YOUR EMPHASIS WAS ON THE FIVE PROJECTS.
04:49:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS, IT IS, BUT --
04:49:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I HAVE THE OTHERS.
04:49:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE TO SEE ALL OF IT.
04:49:07PM IF YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT $116 MILLION -- I MEAN, EVEN --
04:49:12PM EVEN IN THE -- EVEN IN THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE US, YOU SAID
04:49:16PM ALL $200 MILLION, INCLUDING INTEREST.
04:49:20PM BUT IT ALSO INCLUDED FOUR MORE THINGS.
04:49:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF I MAY.
04:49:27PM IF QUICK TO THE ELMO AGAIN.
04:49:28PM APOLOGIES FOR ANY CONFUSION.
04:49:33PM IN THE STAFF REPORT, WHAT WE TRY TO TELL COUNCIL AND THE
04:49:38PM PUBLIC THE REIMBURSEMENTS RESOLUTIONS.
04:49:42PM WHAT YOU SEE IS THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS APPROVED IN
04:49:45PM LATE 2022, THE $80 MILLION FOR THESE VARIOUS PROJECTS.
04:49:49PM AGAIN -- AND, AGAIN, APOLOGIES IF IT WAS CONFUSING.
04:49:56PM OFFER COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE
04:50:00PM RECENT PATH FOR REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION.
04:50:04PM WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS PARTICULAR REIMBURSEMENT
04:50:07PM RESOLUTION AND CONFINED TO THOSE FIVE FIRE FACILITIES.
04:50:10PM BUT, AGAIN, THIS KEEPING WITH THE BIG PICTURE AND, AGAIN,
04:50:16PM TRANSPARENCY.
04:50:16PM I KNOW WE STAY THAT A LOT AND WE MEAN IT.
04:50:19PM WHAT IS COMING DOWN THE PIKE LATER ON THIS YEAR.
04:50:21PM WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING ASSOCIATED THESE OTHER
04:50:25PM PROJECTS, THE HOUSING.
04:50:26PM THAT IS THE COMMUNITY LAND TRUST.
04:50:28PM AND, YOU KNOW, HANNA AVENUE MOBILITY CONVENTION CENTER
04:50:32PM UPGRADES.
04:50:32PM BUT WE WANT TO BE FORTHCOMING AND LET COLONEL AND THE PUBLIC
04:50:36PM KNOW THIS IS COMING DOWN ITS PIKE IN 2024.
04:50:40PM THE ONLY ACTION WE ARE ASKING FOR TODAY ARE THOSE FIVE FIRE
04:50:44PM STATIONS.
04:50:44PM APOLOGIES FOR ANY CONFUSIONS.
04:50:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
04:50:48PM GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE THAT YOU SHARED BECAUSE IT SHOWED FIRE
04:50:52PM STATION 24 AND MAINTENANCE ON THAT FIRST ONE.
04:50:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
04:50:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT?
04:50:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT WAS FOR DESIGN.
04:51:00PM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT.
04:51:01PM I HAVE IT SLIGHT SHADED ON THIS SLIDE AND THE NEXT SLIDE.
04:51:05PM THAT PARTICULAR COMPONENT WAS TO DESIGN LESS THAN A MILLION
04:51:08PM DOLLARS EACH.
04:51:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S SPENT?
04:51:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DO NOT KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IF WE
04:51:15PM SPENT THAT DESIGN FUNDING.
04:51:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS WHY, COUNCILMAN VIERA, I SUPPORT THE
04:51:20PM IDEA OF THIS, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT LITERALLY NEXT TIME WE
04:51:24PM MEET AS A REGULAR COUNCIL, WE ARE GOING TO GET INFORMATION
04:51:29PM OF THIS BONDING GOING FORWARDS.
04:51:31PM AND I THINK THE PUBLIC WILL STILL SUPPORT THIS, I WANT TO
04:51:34PM SUPPORT THIS, BUT I WANT TO HAVE THE ABSOLUTE -- I WANT ALL
04:51:38PM THE DUCKS IN A ROW.
04:51:40PM AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT UP WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY
04:51:45PM IMPORTANT PART OF THIS THAT WE FUNDED THIS TWO YEARS AGO
04:51:48PM BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
04:51:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY -- MANISCALCO ORDINANCE CONTINUE THAT
04:51:53PM TO THE NEXT MEETING.
04:51:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST.
04:51:57PM OWL OUT OF DEFERENCE.
04:51:59PM I COULD FACE A VOTE AND BE CUTE ABOUT THAT -- I AM NOT
04:52:03PM LOOKING AT DOING THAT.
04:52:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING.
04:52:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: AMEN.
04:52:07PM I AM LOOKING TO GET THIS DAMN THING PASSED.
04:52:10PM I KNOW WE ALL ARE.
04:52:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SPEAK BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION?
04:52:14PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT I AM GOING TO MOTION TO DO -- WHEN IS
04:52:17PM THAT REPORT?
04:52:18PM I WANT THE MAJORITY OF COUNCILMEMBERS.
04:52:20PM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE FIVE.
04:52:21PM WE HAVE TWO WHO ARE URN COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING ON THIS AT
04:52:25PM THIS TIME.
04:52:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I CLARIFY?
04:52:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
04:52:28PM IF YOU WANT --
04:52:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS MISCONSTRUED.
04:52:32PM BUT I AM NOT -- I WILL -- I WILL PROBABLY NEVER VOTE AGAINST
04:52:36PM FIRE FIGHTERS.
04:52:36PM WHAT THE -- WHAT THE ADMINISTRATION DID THIS MORNING WAS ONE
04:52:40PM OF THE WORST ACTS OF MISTRUST FOR THE PUBLIC THAT I EVER
04:52:43PM SEEN.
04:52:43PM AND I STILL VOTED FOR IT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS DISTASTEFUL.
04:52:48PM THIS -- I AM VERY CONCERNED OF THE TRACK RECORD OF THIS
04:52:51PM ADMINISTRATION -- HERE WE FOUND ANOTHER THING BESIDES THE
04:52:54PM MONEY THAT YOU HAD ALLOCATED.
04:52:56PM WE VOTED ON AND ALLOCATED THAT DIDN'T GET SPENT.
04:52:59PM WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS MONEY?
04:53:01PM AND I HAD THE SAME QUESTIONS ON THIS LIST TO MR. ROGERO THE
04:53:04PM OTHER DAY.
04:53:04PM BECAUSE I DID VOTE FOR SOME OF THE MONEY FOR HANNA AVENUE.
04:53:08PM I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR ANYTHING FOR HANNA AVENUE AGAIN.
04:53:11PM THE WORST PROJECT THIS CITY HAS EVER DONE.
04:53:13PM AS BEAUTIFUL AS IT IS.
04:53:15PM AND AS MUCH -- DESPITE THE FACT IT IS HALF EMPTY, AN
04:53:19PM ABSOLUTE WASTE OF MONEY.
04:53:20PM AN ABOMINATION FROM A FISCAL POINT OF VIEW.
04:53:26PM SUPPORTING THE FIRE FIGHTERS.
04:53:27PM WE ABSOLUTELY MUST DO THAT.
04:53:31PM WE KNOW, YOU PROMISED -- YOU PROMISED, COUNCILMAN VIERA,
04:53:35PM THAT THEY WOULD HAVE A FIRE STATION THREE YEARS AGO.
04:53:37PM THE ADMINISTRATION ARBITRARY DECIDED NOT TO DO IT AND MOVED
04:53:41PM THE MONEY WITHOUT TELLING US THEY WERE MOVING THE MONEY.
04:53:43PM MY CONCERN IS NOT WANTING TO VOTE YES OR NO BUT HOW CAN I
04:53:49PM TRUST THE ADMINISTRATION TO DO WHAT WE WANT AND WHAT THE
04:53:51PM FIRE FIGHTERS WANT THEM TO DO WITH.
04:53:53PM WITH THIS LIST, IS THIS WHERE THE ADMINISTRATION SAID WE
04:53:56PM SUPPORTED THE EAST TAMPA RECREATIONAL COMPLEX?
04:54:04PM TELLING THE PUBLIC WE APPROVED $41 MILLION.
04:54:07PM I ASKED THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND THEY CAN'T FIND THAT WE
04:54:11PM APPROVED IT.
04:54:11PM IF YOU APPROVED THE CIP, YOU ARE NOT APPROVING THE PROJECT.
04:54:15PM THEY SAY YOU APPROVED THE PROJECT BECAUSE YOU APPROVED
04:54:20PM THE CIP.
04:54:20PM WE HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
04:54:22PM I WANT TO ENDS ON THIS.
04:54:24PM I AM ABSOLUTELY IN FAVOR OF SUPPORTING THE FIRE FIGHTERS.
04:54:27PM SUPPORTING THEIR HEALTH BY GETTING BETTER FACILITIES.
04:54:30PM MORE IMPORTANTLY AND THIS MONEY AND THE REASON WHY WE MUST
04:54:33PM TAKE ON DEBT TO DO THIS UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE SAVE LIVES IN
04:54:38PM OUR COMMUNITY.
04:54:38PM THE RESPONSE TIMES AND WAIT TIMES ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE.
04:54:41PM EVEN ONE PERSON FAMILY MEMBER PASSING AWAY BECAUSE FIRE
04:54:45PM FIGHTERS COULD NOT GET THERE ON TIME IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
04:54:47PM ONE OF THE FEW THINGS I WOULD WANT TO PUT DEBT ON.
04:54:51PM IF WE APPROVE THIS THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION IS GOING TO NOT
04:54:57PM SPENDS IF ON FRIVOLOUS PROJECT.
04:55:00PM AND NOT DO IT ON THINGS LIKE HANNA AVENUE.
04:55:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU HAVE A MOTION.
04:55:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DO.
04:55:11PM I COULD FORCE IT AND POLITICS.
04:55:14PM THE WHOLE THING DON'T TRYST THE ADMINISTRATION,
04:55:18PM ADMINISTRATION, SEEPING INTO THIS.
04:55:20PM I DON'T CARE ABOUT POLITICS WITH THIS ISSUE.
04:55:24PM I WANT TO GET THIS THING PASS $FOR OUR TAMPA FIRE FIGHTERS.
04:55:28PM I AM NOT CONCERNED OF A WAR AGAINST ANY COUNCILMEMBER,
04:55:32PM AGAINST JANE CASTOR OR ANYBODY.
04:55:34PM I WANT THIS DAMN THING TO PASS.
04:55:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU PASS IT TWO YEARS AGO --
04:55:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, HAVE RESPONSE FOR ONCE,
04:55:43PM BUDDY.
04:55:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: BUDDY.
04:55:48PM DON'T CALL ME BUDDY WHEN YOU ARE --
04:55:52PM >>LUIS VIERA: POINT OF ORDER.
04:55:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE HAS THE FLOOR.
04:55:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: POINT OF ORDER, MAN.
04:55:56PM THIS IS CRAZY.
04:55:57PM OKAY.
04:55:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED FOR YOU TO BE CIVIL.
04:56:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE BEEN EVERYTHING BUT CIVIL TOO.
04:56:03PM I THINK YOU KNOW THAT.
04:56:04PM LIKE I WAS SAYING, WE SHOULD NOT BE PLAYING POLITICS.
04:56:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU JUST DID IT AGAIN.
04:56:08PM WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.
04:56:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE HAS THE FLOOR.
04:56:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: ARE YOU TIRED OF -- ARE YOU TIRED OF TAMPA
04:56:14PM CITY COUNCIL RUNNING LIKE A VEHICLE THAT HAVEN'T HAD AN OIL
04:56:17PM CHANGE IN 20 YEARS.
04:56:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST STARTED IT.
04:56:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ENOUGH.
04:56:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: PAINFUL TO WATCH AND EVEN MORE PAINFUL TO
04:56:26PM LISTEN TO.
04:56:26PM THAT'S ALL I AM SAYING.
04:56:28PM LIKE I SAID WE SHOULD NOT PLAY POLITICS WHICH FORCE A VOTE.
04:56:34PM AND SAY THEY OPPOSE FIRE FIGHTERS.
04:56:36PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND HURTAK SUPPORT --
04:56:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: DON'T CLAIM --
04:56:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN.
04:56:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: STOP ACCUSING ME.
04:56:46PM YOU ARE BEING PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE -- THE PUBLIC IS WATCHING
04:56:54PM --
04:56:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU ARE ESCALATING THING
04:56:57PM AS ALWAYS.
04:56:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: DON'T ACCUSE.
04:57:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT ARE YOU ACCUSING ME OF DOING.
04:57:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD AND --
04:57:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAY I AM PLAYING POLITICS AND TRYING TO
04:57:08PM PROTECT THE MONEY.
04:57:08PM APPROVED MONEY TWO YEARS AGO AND ADMINISTRATION DECIDED NOT
04:57:12PM TO SPEND IT AND SPEND IT ON SOMETHING.
04:57:15PM YOU DON'T CALL IT BETRAYAL OF TRUST.
04:57:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL I WANT TO DO.
04:57:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID I WILL VOTE ON THIS ANYWAY.
04:57:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO GET THIS THING PASSED COUNCILMAN.
04:57:27PM FOR THE RECORD, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:57:29PM I AM NOT OUT TO GET YOU AND ADVERSE TO YOU SORE ANYTHING
04:57:33PM MIKE THAT.
04:57:33PM I RESPECT YOU JUST LIKE I THINK YOU RESPECT ME.
04:57:36PM THIS IS A SITUATION, SIR, THAT HAS -- BETWEEN YOU AND I
04:57:39PM RIGHT NOW HAS BECOME CASE SLATED AND WE NEED TO DEESCALATE
04:57:43PM PEOPLE.
04:57:43PM I GET ALONG WITH YOU.
04:57:44PM UP REALLY, REALLY DO.
04:57:46PM I MEAN THAT 110%.
04:57:47PM I RESPECT YOU.
04:57:48PM I RESPECT THE LAST CAMPAIGN YOU HAD WHERE YOU HAD ONE HECK
04:57:52PM OF A TOUGH ONLY AND CAME OUT SWINGING AND CAME OUT ON TOP.
04:57:56PM I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.
04:57:57PM YOU HAVE MY WORD OF HONOR AS A GENTLEMAN.
04:57:59PM DO YOU ACCEPT THAT?
04:58:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO GET ALONG WITH YOU
04:58:03PM AS WELL.
04:58:03PM I WOULD NOT LIKE TO HAVE THE PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE ATTACKS.
04:58:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY, SIR.
04:58:08PM I RESPECTFULLY DENY THAT.
04:58:11PM BUT I WANT TO GET ALONG WITH YOU SIR.
04:58:13PM I MEAN THAT 100%.
04:58:14PM WE HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A WHILE.
04:58:16PM LET'S DEESCALATE THINGS.
04:58:18PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO WE AGREE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
04:58:20PM ADMINISTRATION SPENDS THE MONEY ON WHAT WE ARE ASKING THEM
04:58:23PM TO DO.
04:58:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: I COULD FORCE A VOTE THAT WILL BE GROSSLY
04:58:27PM IRRESPONSIBLE OF ME.
04:58:28PM THAT'S ALL SAYING.
04:58:31PM I WISH YOU WELL IN ALL OF YOUR ENDEAVORS AS I SAID MANY
04:58:35PM TIMES BEFORE.
04:58:36PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:58:37PM YOU INDICATED YOU WANTED MORE TIME TO LOOK AT THIS.
04:58:39PM WHEN ARE YOU LOOKING AT, MA'AM?
04:58:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALL I WANT FOR US TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT
04:58:44PM COUNCIL SESSION WHICH IS JANUARY 25 WHEN THE CHIEF FINANCIAL
04:58:48PM OFFICER IS GOING TO REPORT TO COUNCIL ON THE BONDING
04:58:52PM CAPACITY OF THE CITY, THE CURRENT BOND OUTSTANDING, TIMELINE
04:58:55PM AND COST, POTENTIAL BONDING WITH ENTERPRISE FUNDS, BONDING
04:58:59PM POTENTIAL WITH GENERAL FUNDS, CASH FLOW IMPACT OF NEW
04:59:03PM BONDING AND FURTHER IMPACT TO BOND RATING.
04:59:06PM BASICALLY HE WILL COME BACK WITH ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HE
04:59:09PM LISTED.
04:59:09PM AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WHEN WE BOND.
04:59:12PM I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS, BUT I WANT EVERYONE.
04:59:15PM I WANT THE PUBLIC TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION BEFORE WE GET
04:59:20PM STARTED.
04:59:20PM AND BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT PRIOR MONEY THAT WAS PUT INTO
04:59:28PM BUILDING A FIRE STATION WASN'T USED, I WOULD LIKE MUCH
04:59:31PM SMALLER RESOLUTIONS, FOCUSED ON ONE ITEM AT A TIME OR ONE
04:59:37PM YEAR AT A TIME.
04:59:39PM THAT'S WHERE I AM LEANING.
04:59:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WANT TO ADDRESS 24
04:59:44PM WHICH IS -- I THINK WHEN THIS PASSED IN THE BUDGET, NO ONE
04:59:47PM ON CITY COUNCIL -- EVERYBODY TALKS LIKE IT WAS SOME BIG
04:59:51PM THING IN THE BUDGET.
04:59:52PM IT WASN'T.
04:59:52PM I WILL GIVE YOU BRIEFLY THE HISTORY OF STATION 24.
04:59:55PM ORIGINALLY GOING TO BE NEW TAMPA.
04:59:57PM WE DECIDED TO GO UNDER JOE GRECO FOR STATION 25 IN SULPHUR
05:00:04PM SPRINGS.
05:00:04PM NEW DATA, 24 SHOULD BE IN NORTH TAMPA OPPOSED TO NEW TAMPA.
05:00:08PM AGAIN, JUST FOR THE RECORD AS THE PERSON WHO HAS THIS -- IF
05:00:15PM WE PASS 24, THE THIRD FIRE STATION THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET
05:00:18PM AT OR NEAR MY DISTRICT THAT I AM WORKING WITH THE MAYOR
05:00:22PM WITH.
05:00:22PM I KNOW THE HISTORY OF THAT VERY, VERY WELL.
05:00:25PM AND I WANT NARRATIVE IS NOT TO BECOME REALITY, BUT, AGAIN,
05:00:30PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, THAT IS 100% FINE.
05:00:36PM THE UNION TO WORK WITH COUNCILMEMBERS WHO HAVE SPOKEN AND
05:00:40PM HAVE CONCERNS NOT JUST FOR A MAJORITY VOTE BUT A UNANIMOUS
05:00:43PM VOTE BECAUSE ALL CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SUPPORT THIS.
05:00:46PM IF I MAY, I WILL MOTION TO HAVE THIS CONTINUED TO -- I
05:00:49PM BELIEVE IT WAS JANUARY 25.
05:00:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF I CAN ADD AN AMENDMENT TO INCLUDE THE
05:00:55PM ITEMIZED -- THE REASON THESE ARE SO EXPENSIVE.
05:00:59PM I -- HAS BEEN A LOT OF GOSSIP OF THE EXPENSE AND WHY, THE
05:01:06PM SIZE OF THE FIRE STATIONS.
05:01:07PM I HAVE HEARD FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE IT IS GOING TO BE 10,000
05:01:13PM SQUARE FEET AT $800 A SQUARE FOOT AND ALL OF THIS.
05:01:17PM I WANT TO KNOW THE ESTIMATES FOR ALL OF THIS.
05:01:19PM SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT, REASONABLE TO SEE.
05:01:24PM AND, AGAIN, I AM MUCH MORE INTERESTED IN A MULTIFAMILY
05:01:27PM NARROWER BUDGET SCOPE BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST
05:01:33PM AND BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO KEEP OUR EYE ON IT A LOT
05:01:36PM CLOSER.
05:01:36PM AND THAT IS JUST THE REALITY.
05:01:38PM BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED LAST TIME IS THEY HAD ALL THOSE THINGS
05:01:41PM AT ONCE, AND THEY MOVED MONEY.
05:01:43PM THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED.
05:01:44PM AND WE DON'T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
05:01:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR.
05:01:48PM THAT COULD BE PART OF THE DISCUSSION WITH STAFF.
05:01:50PM AND, AGAIN, WE ARE GOING TO GET SOMETHING TO TAMPA FIRE
05:01:54PM FIGHTERS.
05:01:54PM WE ARE GOING TO GET SOMETHING BIG PASSED, RIGHT.
05:01:56PM AND IF PEOPLE HAVE TO GET MORE INFORMATION TO FEEL
05:02:00PM COMFORTABLE ON THAT, I RESPECT THAT 1150 BUFFER.
05:02:04PM I WILL MAKE THAT MOTION.
05:02:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
05:02:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:02:08PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:02:09PM DISCUSSION, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:02:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW THIS CAN WAIT UNTIL NEXT WEEK.
05:02:14PM BUT TO HAVE IT CLEAR.
05:02:16PM YOU DON'T BOND IT ALL AT ONE TIME.
05:02:19PM YOU BOND IT WHEN YOU NEED IT.
05:02:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CORRECT.
05:02:23PM TO CLARIFY, IDEALLY ONCE ALL OF THE DEBT HAS BEEN ISSUED
05:02:27PM UNDER WHATEVER DEBT MECHANISM, WE WILL ROLL IT INTO A BOND
05:02:32PM FOR COST SAVINGS.
05:02:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE NOT BONDING MONEY YOU ARE NOT
05:02:36PM SPENDING.
05:02:36PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
05:02:37PM MANISCALCO YES?
05:02:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. ROGERO OR DONNIE, COULD YOU ALL TELL US
05:02:43PM HOW MUCH OF THIS MONEY IS GOING TO BE SPENT IN SOUTH TAMPA?
05:02:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T HAVE IT BROKEN OUT MYSELF BY
05:02:53PM DISTRICT.
05:02:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: HOW MANY OF THESE STATIONS ARE IN SOUTH
05:02:57PM TAMPA.
05:02:57PM CAN ONE OF YOU SAY?
05:03:03PM >> THE STATIONS LISTED ON THAT ARE NOT IN SOUTH TAMPA.
05:03:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY POINT IS, TO COUNCILMEMBER VIERA, EVERY
05:03:12PM TIME YOU BROUGHT UP THESE STATIONS THAT AT LEAST ONE OF THEM
05:03:14PM IN YOUR DISTRICT, I SUPPORTED IT EVERY TIME.
05:03:17PM NONE OF THESE IN MY DISTRICT AND NONE OF THIS MONEY.
05:03:21PM I WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR THIS TODAY OUT OF RESPECT FOR YOU
05:03:23PM BECAUSE I SUPPORT WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
05:03:25PM ALSO, I KNOW THAT LIVES CAN BE SAVED IN YOUR DISTRICT.
05:03:29PM LIVES NEED TO BE SAVED IN MY DISTRICT AND ALL THROUGHOUT THE
05:03:32PM CITY.
05:03:33PM WE ALL REPRESENT EVERYONE IN THE CITY.
05:03:34PM BUT I SUPPORTED THIS THROUGHOUT, EVEN THOUGH IT IS NOT IN MY
05:03:38PM DISTRICT.
05:03:38PM IF I WAS BEING POLITICAL I WOULD HAVE.
05:03:42PM IF I DIDN'T LIKE YOU AND NOT SUPPORTED IT.
05:03:45PM I SUPPORTED IT BECAUSE I HAVE RESPECT FOR YOU AND DOESN'T
05:03:49PM HELP ME IN ANY WAY POLITICALLY THAT IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO
05:03:52PM PROTECT OUR FIRE FIGHTERS AND SAVE LIVES.
05:03:54PM THANK YOU.
05:03:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND A
05:03:57PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:03:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY.
05:04:00PM VERY FINAL -- FOR THE RECORD, ONLY 24 IS IN MY DISTRICT, 6,
05:04:05PM 9 AND 10 AND THE FIRE MAINTENANCE SUPPLY -- IT WILL HELP OUT
05:04:10PM ALL DISTRICTS, 6, 9 AND 10 ARE NOT IN MY DISTRICT.
05:04:14PM 85% OF THE FUNDING IS OUTSIDE OF MY DISTRICT JUST FOR THE
05:04:18PM RECORD
05:04:18PM NOT SOME DISTRICT 7 BOONDOGGLE.
05:04:22PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WELL TAKEN AND I APPRECIATE IT.
05:04:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
05:04:26PM ITEM NUMBER 8 WILL NOT BE TAKEN UP DUE TO THIS CONTINUANCE.
05:04:30PM THAT'S CORRECT?
05:04:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY I ASK COUNCIL AND THE CLERK CAN BACK ME
05:04:39PM UP ON THIS.
05:04:39PM FACT THAT ITEM 8 AND ITEM 78 ARE SEPARATE AND ITEM 8 I DON'T
05:04:45PM BELIEVE WAS UPLOADED OR THE INFORMATION OF THE RESOLUTION
05:04:49PM ITSELF WAS UPLOADED TO 78, I WILL ASK WHEN IT COMES BACK
05:04:53PM THAT ALL OF THEM TRAVEL TOGETHER.
05:04:54PM DONE AS ONE ITEM.
05:04:56PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT WILL BE IDEAL, YES, SORE RADIO HE, IN MY
05:04:59PM OPINION.
05:05:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PART OF THE MOTION.
05:05:01PM TRAVELS TOGETHER.
05:05:02PM COMES BACK AND NO ISSUE AS ONE ITEM.
05:05:05PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:05:06PM ITEM NUMBER 79.
05:05:08PM MR. MIKE PERRY TRANSMITTED A WRITTEN REPORT FOR SAID AGENDA
05:05:12PM ITEM.
05:05:12PM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT?
05:05:14PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:05:16PM WAS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION?
05:05:18PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING?
05:05:19PM IT WAS YOUR MOTION.
05:05:20PM NO?
05:05:21PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:05:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOOKED THROUGH THIS.
05:05:23PM I TALKED TO MR. ROGERO ABOUT THIS ALREADY.
05:05:29PM AND IN THE FUTURE I SAID I WANT TOO SEE MORE OF A
05:05:33PM NUMBERS-BASED SPREADSHEET FOR EACH DEPARTMENT.
05:05:35PM WHAT HE DID WAS -- WHICH IS GREAT.
05:05:37PM WAS TO TELL US.
05:05:38PM WAS TO BASICALLY SAY EACH MOTION THAT HAVE PASS.
05:05:49PM TO MOVE $5 MILLION INTO THE -- I DON'T KNOW, THE SWIMMING
05:05:56PM POOL FUND FROM THE PARKS AND REC FUND.
05:06:00PM THAT WE SEE WHAT THE -- WHAT -- WHAT THE TOTAL WAS IN THE
05:06:04PM POOL FUND BEFORE WE MOVE THE $5 MILLION AND WHAT THE TOTAL
05:06:07PM WAS IN THE SPARKS FUND BEFORE WE MOVED THAT AND AFTER, JUST
05:06:11PM TO GET AN IDEA OF HOW THE MONEY MOVES.
05:06:13PM NUMERICALLY INSTEAD OF WITH WORDS.
05:06:16PM THAT IS WHAT I ASKED FOR IN THE FUTURE.
05:06:18PM AND I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN ALL ADD OUR OPINIONS AND REFINE
05:06:22PM THIS AS IT GOES ALONG.
05:06:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:06:25PM ANYTHING ELSE?
05:06:28PM ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, MR. ROGERO.
05:06:29PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO, THANK YOU.
05:06:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
05:06:34PM NEXT UP ITEM 81.
05:06:35PM IT WAS REQUESTED THAT STAFF NOT BE PRESENT.
05:06:37PM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:06:39PM THERE WAS A MEMO BY NOW DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC, MR.
05:06:46PM TONY MULKEY.
05:06:48PM ANYTHING TO ADD?
05:06:52PM THIS IS THE SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES, PARKS
05:06:54PM AND REC.
05:06:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A RECEIVE AND FILE.
05:06:57PM WE WILL TAKE THAT UP AT THE END.
05:06:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS DEDICATED TO SPECIAL NEEDS
05:07:03PM CHILDREN WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.
05:07:06PM ARE YOU GOOD?
05:07:06PM CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
05:07:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
05:07:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
05:07:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA AND SECONDED
05:07:14PM BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:07:16PM FINAL ITEM.
05:07:17PM NUMBER 28 ANOTHER MOTION BY MR. VIERA, SPECIAL NEEDS
05:07:21PM INTERNSHIP.
05:07:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: I SPOKE WITH MISS WYNN AND I JUST NEEDED AN
05:07:30PM UPDATE.
05:07:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE WE MISSING ANYTHING, MADAM CHAIR OR
05:07:32PM MADAM CLERK?
05:07:36PM WE CONTINUED A FEW ITEMS.
05:07:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, I MISSED THAT ONE.
05:07:41PM THAT IS EVERYTHING.
05:07:42PM NEW BUSINESS.
05:07:42PM I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS.
05:07:44PM FIRST --
05:07:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CHAIR PRO TEM RECOGNIZES CHAIR MANISCALCO.
05:07:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYBODY AT
05:07:52PM THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. PARADE ON MONDAY.
05:07:54PM AND THE BREAKFAST.
05:07:55PM A WONDERFUL DAY.
05:07:56PM AND A WONDERFUL EVENT.
05:07:57PM MY FIRST MOTION IS TO PRINT A COMMENDATION TO THE TAMPA
05:08:01PM ORGANIZATION OF BLACK AFFAIRS HONORING MARTIN LUTHER KING,
05:08:04PM JR. DAY AT A LOCATION OFFSITE ON MONDAY JANUARY 15 WHICH I
05:08:09PM WILL BRING THE COMMENDATION TO THE TOBA BREAKFAST AND I WILL
05:08:13PM GIVE TO, I BELIEVE, MR. JAMES RANSOM AND ONE OF THE
05:08:17PM COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
05:08:18PM THAT IS MY MOTION.
05:08:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION BY CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO AND A
05:08:22PM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:08:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST A COUNCILWOMAN.
05:08:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WERE ONES A CHAIRPERSON.
05:08:31PM TITLES CARRY ON.
05:08:33PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:08:35PM OPPOSED?
05:08:36PM THE MOTION PASSES.
05:08:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANOTHER ONE TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION
05:08:40PM FOR SHARON STREATOR TO SERVICE TO THE PUBLIC AT THE LOCAL,
05:08:44PM STATE AND NATIONAL LEVELS.
05:08:45PM I WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT THIS AT AN OFF-SITE LOCATION
05:08:50PM FEBRUARY 28.
05:08:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION BY CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
05:08:53PM A SECOND BY CHAIRMAN VIERA.
05:08:55PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:08:55PM OPPOSED.
05:08:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LAST ONE IS -- A MOTION TO PRESENT A
05:08:59PM COMMENDATION TO CARLTON WARD JR. FOR HIS SERVICE IN
05:09:02PM PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT AND ENHANCING COMMUNITY THROUGH
05:09:05PM CIVIC LEADERSHIP AT THE LOCAL AND STATE LEVEL.
05:09:07PM THIS COMMENDATION OFF-SITE LOCATION ON FEBRUARY 28.
05:09:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE SHOULD TO THAT HERE.
05:09:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LISA HANDED IT TO ME.
05:09:16PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A SPECIFIC REQUEST -- I WILL MAKE THE
05:09:20PM MOTION AND IF IT CHANGES -- I WILL HAVE TO DETAILS FROM HER.
05:09:24PM TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION ON FEBRUARY 28 AND I WILL KEEP IT
05:09:28PM OPEN.
05:09:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY CHAIRMAN
05:09:30PM MANISCALCO.
05:09:31PM A SECOND?
05:09:32PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
05:09:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:09:34PM OPPOSED?
05:09:38PM MOTION PASSES.
05:09:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL FIGURE IT OUT.
05:09:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WILL BE OFFSITE JUST BECAUSE OF THE
05:09:44PM DATE.
05:09:44PM >> THAT ONE WE DON'T HERE.
05:09:47PM THAT ONE WILL BE TAKING PLACE AT THE --
05:09:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN --
05:09:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.
05:09:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: FLORIDA MUSEUM OFPHOTOGRAPHIC --
05:10:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, MA'AM.
05:10:05PM STATE YOUR NAME.
05:10:06PM >> LISA EDWARDS.
05:10:07PM THAT CAN'T TAKE PLACE HERE BECAUSE THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AT
05:10:10PM THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS ACHIEVEMENT LUNCHEON.
05:10:14PM THAT IS WHERE --
05:10:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
05:10:17PM >> THAT IS IT IS BE RECOGNIZED AT.
05:10:24PM >>BILL CARLSON: HE'S A GREAT PHOTOGRAPHER AND A GREAT EXHIBIT AT
05:10:27PM THE FLORIDA MUSEUM OF FOE GRAPHIC ARTS IN YBOR.
05:10:31PM AND HE SINGLE-HANDEDLY PUT TOGETHER THE WILDLIFE CORRIDOR
05:10:37PM THE CONTIGUOUS PART OF LAND FROM THE EVERGLADES TO THE
05:10:42PM PANHANDLE TO ALLOW WILDLIFE.
05:10:44PM AND HE DID IT WITH BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.
05:10:46PM HATS OFF FOR HIM DOING THAT.
05:10:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, NEW BUSINESS?
05:10:52PM I BELIEVE YOU HAVE THE ITEM --
05:10:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: FROM ITEM NUMBER 9 TODAY, AS I STATED
05:10:56PM EARLIER, MY FIRM DOES BUSINESS WITH THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
05:11:00PM SCHOOL DISTRICT ON MATTERS NOT RELATED TO THIS APPLICATION.
05:11:03PM AND I ABSTAINED -- WE DON'T DO ANY BUSINESS RELATED TO THE
05:11:07PM CITY, BUT I JUST ABSTAINED TO AVOID THE APPEARANCE OF A
05:11:11PM CONFLICT.
05:11:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
05:11:15PM A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:11:17PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:11:18PM OPPOSED?
05:11:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE OUGHT TO ASK.
05:11:25PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL
05:11:30PM ATTORNEY ON FEBRUARY 15 FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF SETTING UP A
05:11:34PM CITY COUNCIL RULE TO LIMIT WALK-ON AGENDA ITEMS.
05:11:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
05:11:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS A MOTION.
05:11:44PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS SECOND.
05:11:46PM MR. SHELBY, ARE YOU CLEAR ON THE MOTION?
05:11:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DENY THEM.
05:11:55PM >>BILL CARLSON: AT LEAST IT SETS AN EXPECTATION.
05:11:57PM IF YOU NOTICE, I DIDN'T SET ANY SPECIFIC CRY CRITERIA, HE
05:12:02PM CAN'T TELL US WHAT EACH OTHER IS SAYING HE CAN LISTEN AND
05:12:07PM TAKE INPUT AND COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION.
05:12:09PM EACH MUCH HIM CAN TALK TO HIM INDIVIDUALLY AND GIVE INPUT ON
05:12:12PM IT.
05:12:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY, MR. SHELBY.
05:12:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THE MOTION, WE CAN
05:12:18PM HAVE SPECIFIC CRITERIA, BUT YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT,
05:12:24PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, THE PURPOSE OF THE APPROVAL OF THE
05:12:26PM AGENDA IS FOR COUNCIL TO ACTUALLY.
05:12:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOMEBODY CAN ASK AND WE JUST SAY NO.
05:12:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT THE ON-BASE PROCESS THAT ALLOWS THE
05:12:37PM ADMINISTRATION MULTIPLE SIGN-OFFS UNTIL IT GOES TO THE
05:12:41PM MAYOR'S OFFICE AND SHOWS UP ON YOUR AGENDA THE WAY IT IS
05:12:45PM STRUCTURED NOW.
05:12:46PM WHEN IT IS A WALK-ON, ULTIMATELY COMES TO COUNCIL IN THE
05:12:49PM FORM OF THE REQUEST AS CHANGES TO THE AGENDA AND EVEN
05:12:52PM CONTINUANCES COME IN THE FORM OF A REQUEST.
05:12:54PM AND COUNCIL AS A BODY THAT TAKES ACTION.
05:12:57PM THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AND
05:13:01PM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS A POLICY THAT GIVES NOTICE TO
05:13:03PM LET'S SAY THE ADMINISTRATION OR THIRD PARTIES COUNCIL
05:13:07PM DISCOURAGES WALK-ONES -- UNTIL THERE IS A CERTAIN PARAMETER,
05:13:12PM HEALTH, SAFETY OR WELFARE, FINANCIAL EX-TIN GEE AND THE
05:13:20PM LIKE.
05:13:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT GIVES THE ABILITY TO NOT ASK US FOR A
05:13:25PM WALK-ON.
05:13:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IT DOES, GUEST COUNCIL A CONSISTENT
05:13:30PM POLICY EACH COUNCILMEMBER KNOWS IF SOMEBODY COMES TO THEM
05:13:35PM AND SAY I WANT TO YOU WALK THIS ON, COUNCIL AS A BODY --
05:13:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S SAY A NATURAL DISASTER AND EMERGENCY
05:13:43PM OR -- I CAN SEE SOME WEIRD CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE WOULD WANT
05:13:47PM TO --
05:13:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT IS THE KIND OF INPUT WE CAN GIVE HIM
05:13:51PM AND PUT THAT IN THERE.
05:13:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:13:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SUPPORT IT AND THE PARAMETER ALSO BE
05:13:59PM VERY IMPORTANT.
05:13:59PM LIKE THE TAMPA FIRE PAY.
05:14:00PM I THINK I GOT THAT INFORMATION FRIDAY SIX DAYS AGO WHEN I
05:14:05PM WAS IN BED WITH COVID.
05:14:06PM THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS GLAD TO DO.
05:14:09PM AGAIN OTHER WALK-ONES THAT MAY BE PREVENTABLE AND I AM GLAD
05:14:13PM TO HAVE GUIDELINES THAT IN THAT REGARD.
05:14:19PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT THIS WOULD HAVE DONE THE CHIEF OF STAFF
05:14:21PM WILL KNOW HE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPTION TO DO A WALK-ON AND IN
05:14:24PM DECEMBER TO GET THIS ON THE AGENDA AND WOULD HAVE AFFECTED
05:14:28PM HOW THEY PROCEEDED WITH IT.
05:14:29PM ANYWAY, WE CAN --
05:14:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FEBRUARY 15.
05:14:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: A LONGER CONVERSATION.
05:14:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL REACH OUT AND GET INPUT FROM THE
05:14:41PM COUNCILMEMBERS.
05:14:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION IF YOU WANT TO TWEAK
05:14:45PM IT, CHANGE, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.
05:14:48PM YOUR RULES AND YOUR MEETING.
05:14:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
05:14:50PM ANYTHING ELSE?
05:14:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: DID WE VOTE ON IT.
05:14:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS UNANIMOUS, CORRECT?
05:14:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: IT WAS.
05:14:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:14:59PM WHO WAS THE SECOND.
05:15:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DID.
05:15:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:15:03PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:15:04PM OPPOSE?
05:15:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL NOT MAKE A MOTION ON THIS, BUT WHEN I
05:15:08PM FIRST STARTED, I MADE A MOTION REGARDING A CUBA POLICY.
05:15:13PM SUBSEQUENTLY COUNCILMAN VIERA MADE ONE AND ANOTHER ONE ON
05:15:18PM AFGHANISTAN THAT ENDED UP BEING BIG DISCUSSION ON FOREIGN
05:15:23PM POLICY.
05:15:24PM I WISH WE HAD A POLICY THAT SAID THAT WE DON'T PASS
05:15:27PM RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR JURISDICTIONS.
05:15:31PM AND YOU ALL CAN THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT I WOULD -- SOME RECENT
05:15:36PM ISSUES I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO ALL SIDES.
05:15:39PM AND NO EASY SOLUTION TO ANYTHING.
05:15:41PM BUT THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS GO BACK TO HOUSING AND WHATEVER
05:15:46PM THE ORGANIZATION WHERE -- THEY -- THEY WANT RESOLUTIONS FOR
05:15:50PM DIFFERENT CITIES AND COUNTIES SO THAT THEY CAN GO BACK TO
05:15:53PM THEIR HEAD OFFICE AND SAY LOOK AT ALL THESE RESOLUTIONS.
05:15:56PM EVEN THOUGH THE RESOLUTION HAS NO IMPACT.
05:15:59PM AND I THINK WE NEED SOME GUIDANCE AT SOME POINT WHAT KIND OF
05:16:04PM RESOLUTIONS.
05:16:04PM FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY CAME AND SAID WE OUGHT TO BAN
05:16:09PM ASSAULT RIFLES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
05:16:11PM CERTAIN AREAS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR STATE
05:16:14PM GOVERNMENT PREEMPT US ON AND DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD FOR US TO
05:16:19PM PASS A RESOLUTION.
05:16:20PM WE HAVE SOME RESOLUTIONS THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA THAT WE
05:16:23PM PASSED UNANIMOUSLY AND THE STATE LEGISLATURE CHANGED THE LAW
05:16:26PM THE NEXT DAY JUST TO PREEMPT US.
05:16:28PM AT SOME POINT.
05:16:30PM WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CREATE OM PARAMETERS.
05:16:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, ANY IF NEW
05:16:37PM BUSINESS?
05:16:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO IF.
05:16:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:16:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RESOLUTION, LIKE THE CITY COUNCIL PASSING
05:16:45PM A RESOLUTION ON SNOW REMOVAL.
05:16:47PM SOME THINGS THAT DON'T APPLY TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:16:49PM OUR CHARTER IS CLEAR WHAT THE ROLE IS AND WHAT OUR
05:16:53PM RESPONSIBILITIES ARE.
05:16:54PM I AGREE.
05:16:55PM HAD I BEEN ON COUNCIL DURING THOSE TIMES.
05:16:58PM COUNCILMAN VIERA DURING OUR CAMPAIGN, WE HAD THOSE
05:17:01PM CONVERSATIONS THAT I WOULD NOT HAVE SUPPORTED THOSE
05:17:03PM RESOLUTIONS BECAUSE NOT APPLICABLE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA OR
05:17:06PM THE ROLE WE SERVE.
05:17:08PM WE ALL HAVE PERSONAL OPINIONS.
05:17:10PM WE ALL HAVE PERSONAL PASSIONS.
05:17:12PM BUT NOT THE PLACE AND THE PEOPLE DIDN'T ELECT US FOR THE
05:17:16PM PERSONAL OPINIONS AND PASSIONS.
05:17:17PM I AGREE -- BASED ON WHAT I AM OBSERVING, I THINK WE ALL --
05:17:22PM THIS COUNCIL ALL AGREES THAT FEELS THE SAME WAY.
05:17:25PM YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT WHAT HAPPENED
05:17:27PM EARLIER WITH NICOLE TRAVIS AND MYSELF.
05:17:31PM I -- YOU KNOW, THERE WAS -- WE LOOKED AT THE RECORDING, AND,
05:17:37PM YEAH, ABSOLUTELY MAYBE SHE MISSPOKE, BUT SHE SAID WHAT I
05:17:41PM THOUGHT SHE SAID ON -- ON THE ROLE AND THE THINGS THAT
05:17:47PM NONNEGOTIABLE.
05:17:47PM SO YOU KNOW, IT'S -- IT IS UNFORTUNATE WHEN WHICH HAVE THOSE
05:17:54PM TIMES OF DISAGREEMENTS AND I AM HOARSE AND RECOVERING FROM A
05:17:57PM COLD AS WELL, BUT MAYBE I WAS VERY ASSERTIVE IN THAT
05:18:01PM DISCUSSION.
05:18:01PM BUT I HAVE TO SAY WITH STAFF AND -- FOR STAFF THAT IS
05:18:04PM LISTENING, YOU KNOW WE ARE ALL TRYING TO DO THE BEST JOB FOR
05:18:08PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:18:08PM I KNOW YOU ARE AS WELL.
05:18:12PM THEY HAD CONVERSATION WITH MISS TRAVIS WHEN YOU WALK IN THE
05:18:16PM GLASS DOORS, NOT IN THE ROLE OF POLICY ANYMORE, YOU ARE IN
05:18:19PM THE ROLE OF POLITIC.
05:18:21PM SO WE ARE DEALING WITH A LOT OF POLITICS.
05:18:23PM THIS WAS A HOT BUTTON ISSUE.
05:18:25PM AS WE WERE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
05:18:26PM I REALLY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE MY POINT WAS COMING THROUGH -- I
05:18:31PM HAD THIS NEW BUSINESS THAT YOU CAN IGNORE, CLERK, I AM NOT
05:18:35PM INTRODUCING THAT RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT WAS INCORPORATED IN
05:18:38PM THE OTHER DISCUSSION.
05:18:39PM YOU KNOW I WAS PREPARED TO HAVE THIS NEW BUSINESS TALKING OF
05:18:43PM HOUSING A CATALYST FROM THAT OLIVIA GEORGE ARTICLE AND
05:18:47PM CONCERNED ABOUT -- I HAVE GOTTEN INQUIRIES FROM THE PRESS
05:18:50PM THAT I HAVE NOT RESPONDED TO.
05:18:52PM INQUIRIES FROM OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
05:18:56PM AND I REALLY WANTED TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC DISCUSSION --
05:19:00PM COMPREHENSIVE PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
05:19:01PM DURING THAT DISCUSSION, IT WAS BROUGHT UP THERE IS A
05:19:04PM COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING REPORT ISSUED QUARTERLY.
05:19:07PM I NEVER SEEN THAT.
05:19:08PM I ASKED MY AIDE, DID WE GET THIS?
05:19:11PM HE SAID NO.
05:19:11PM I NEVER ONCE RECEIVED THAT REPORT.
05:19:13PM DOES ANYBODY ELSE GET THAT REPORT.
05:19:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHE PRESENTS IT.
05:19:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I NEVER GOTTEN A COPY OF HER REPORT.
05:19:20PM NEVER COME IN A REPORT AS FAR AS I KNOW.
05:19:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHOULD BE IN THE AGENDA.
05:19:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, IT'S -- I MEAN -- I DON'T KNOW --
05:19:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT -- I THINK THE DISCUSSION THAT I WANT
05:19:34PM -- I UNDERSTAND HER PRESENTATION THAT SHE MADE, BUT I REALLY
05:19:37PM WANT.
05:19:38PM WHAT I WANTED IN THIS DISCUSSION AND WORKSHOP IS REALLY
05:19:41PM TALKING ABOUT A RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
05:19:44PM BECAUSE WE HAVE LIMITED AMOUNT OF -- IN OUR $2 BILLION
05:19:49PM BUDGET, LIMITED AMOUNT OF MONEY TO SPEND ON AND LOOK CAN AT
05:19:53PM THE FIRE STATIONS AND OTHER THINGS COMING BEFORE US, WHAT
05:19:57PM ARE WE GETTING.
05:19:58PM AGAIN, I GO BACK TO THAT TAMPA BAY TIMES ARGUE.
05:20:01PM I THINK WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT THE PUBLIC IS SEEING
05:20:06PM AND WE NEED TO HAVE ANSWERS TO THAT.
05:20:08PM I GUESS MY POINT IS, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS.
05:20:11PM I DON'T KNOW.
05:20:12PM I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
05:20:13PM SO WHEN SOMEBODY COMES TO ME AND SAYS, WE ARE SPENDING X
05:20:18PM AMOUNT OF DOLLARS AND PROMISED 10,000 UNITS WHICH I KNOW IS
05:20:22PM A POLITICAL DISCUSSION.
05:20:23PM BY THE WAY I APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN CARLSON WHEN YOU SAID WE
05:20:26PM SHOULD TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE.
05:20:28PM I THINK THAT IS A GET OUT OF FREE FROM JAIL CARD.
05:20:32PM AND I THINK THE CITY AND ADMINISTRATION SHOULD MOVE FORWARD
05:20:36PM WITH THAT AN ARBITRARY GOAL AND LET'S STOP TALKING ABOUT IT,
05:20:43PM BUT I DO WANT TO KNOW IF -- HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE SPEND
05:20:46PM SOMETHING IN BECAUSE THERE IS -- THERE IS A LOT OF
05:20:48PM DISCUSSION ABOUT SHOULD WE BE SPENDING ON OWNER REHAB.
05:20:51PM SHOULD WE BE SPENDING ON RENT ASSISTANCE.
05:20:54PM SHOULD WE BE SPENDING.
05:20:56PM AGAIN, THIS IS MOVING TARGET.
05:20:58PM EVEN THOUGH THAT DISCUSSION MAY HAVE OCCURRED FOR THE
05:21:01PM COUNCIL.
05:21:01PM THAT DISCUSSION COULD HAVE BEEN HEARD ON THIS COUNCIL.
05:21:03PM I THINK BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE CITY -- THIS
05:21:07PM CITY AND THE PERCENTAGES WE ARE CAULKING OF OUR BUDGET THAT
05:21:11PM WE ARE DEDICATED TO THIS, I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WE
05:21:16PM ARE HELPING.
05:21:17PM IF WE ARE TO SPEND $50 MILLION FOR WHATEVER THAT IS, WHAT
05:21:21PM DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN.
05:21:22PM I AM REALLY APPREHENSIVE SOMEBODY SAYS TO SPEND X NUMBER OF
05:21:27PM DOLLARS.
05:21:27PM I WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE A SPECIFIC PROPOSAL SENT US TO AND
05:21:33PM SAID WE ARE GOING TO BE BUILD 750 UNITS AND SERVICE THIS
05:21:38PM MUCH PERCENTAGE OF AMI.
05:21:40PM AND WE ARE GOING TO SPEND THIS MUCH TAX DOLLARS ON THIS
05:21:43PM PARTICULAR PROJECT.
05:21:44PM AND REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT, RATHER THAN SAYING I AM GOING TO
05:21:47PM SPEND $100 MILLION ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
05:21:50PM WHAT AIM GETTING -- WHAT AM I GETTING?
05:21:55PM TEN MANSIONS?
05:21:57PM WHAT BROUGHT THIS UP.
05:21:58PM TALKED OF THAT PROJECT AND $ 50,000 IN REQUEST FOR
05:22:03PM SUBSIDIES PER UNIT.
05:22:04PM I WAS THINKING HOW DOES THIS TRANSLATE TO OTHER PROJECTS IN
05:22:07PM THE CITY AND HIGHLIGHTED TO ME THAT MAYBE WE HAD A PROBLEM
05:22:10PM AND US AS THE CHECK AND BALANCE -- FIDUCIARY BALANCE OF THE
05:22:17PM CITY TO TRULY UNDERSTAND AND DIG DEEP AND KNOW WHAT WE ARE
05:22:19PM GETTING FOR OUR DOLLARS.
05:22:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD SAY -- I WOULD RECOMMEND.
05:22:23PM I HAVE GOT SOME BOOKS FOR YOU.
05:22:25PM YOU GOT TO DO THE WORK.
05:22:26PM YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
05:22:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL READ IT.
05:22:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AS MUCH OF THE WORK I HAVE DONE, I STILL
05:22:33PM DON'T UNDERSTAND.
05:22:33PM THAT WAS KIND OF MY POINT AFTER THAT CRA MEETING.
05:22:41PM HOW DO WE SPEND THAT MONEY.
05:22:43PM I CALLED MR. DRUMGO AND I SAID I WANT TO START MONTHLY
05:22:47PM MEETING WITH YOU SO YOU CAN TEACH ME HOW THE FUNDING
05:20:50PM APPARATUS WORKS.
05:22:51PM I WANT TO KNOW FOR ME IF IT MAKES SENSE.
05:22:54PM I AM NOT GOING TO BE A HOUSING -- I AM NOT GOING TO KNOW
05:22:58PM EVERYTHING ABOUT HOUSING BUT, YOU KNOW.
05:23:00PM IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US TO ASK QUESTIONS TO STAFF AND OTHERS
05:23:04PM AND GRAB A BOOK AND -- JUST -- THERE IS NO WAY TO KNOW IT
05:23:08PM ALL.
05:23:08PM LIKE COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, IT IS A MOVING TARGET.
05:23:13PM WE NEED TO HAVE -- HAVING THAT WORKSHOP IS SO IMPORTANT
05:23:17PM WHERE WE REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW WE SPEND THE MONEY, BECAUSE
05:23:22PM EVEN MORE SO THAN ANYTHING ELSE, THAT IS WHAT WE HEARD ON
05:23:25PM THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL AND THE PUBLIC.
05:23:27PM THEY WANT HOUSING.
05:23:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO GO BACK -- YOU HEAR THAT --
05:23:32PM THERE IS A PORTION OF OUR POPULATION THAT WE HEAR THAT FROM.
05:23:36PM YOU MOVE INTO COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S DISTRICT.
05:23:41PM TALK OF POTHOLES AND SIDEWALKS AND TRAFFIC AND BIKE LANES.
05:23:45PM A LOT OF OTHER THINGS PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
05:23:47PM I THINK YOU MOVE TO NEW TAMPA, I WOULD HEAR A LOT OF OTHER
05:23:50PM DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT THE CONCERNS ARE UP THERE.
05:23:52PM SO I THINK -- WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CITY -- THIS POLICY AS
05:23:56PM A COMPREHENSIVE POLICY FOR THE ENTIRE CITY, WHILE WE HAVE
05:24:00PM NEEDS AND SPECIFIC NEEDS IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES, WE STILL
05:24:04PM HAVE TO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW HOW WE ARE SPENDING
05:24:08PM THE CITY'S TAXPAYER MONEY ACROSS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:24:11PM I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE MEETING ON THE 29th IS WOEFULLY
05:24:16PM NEEDED.
05:24:17PM I THINK IT IS OVERDUE.
05:24:18PM I WANT TO PRESS UPON THE POINT I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THE
05:24:21PM EARLIER DISCUSSION THAT MY POINT OF WHAT THE AMOUNT OF
05:24:25PM INCHES I WANTED IN THAT MEETING WAS REALLY BREAKING THROUGH
05:24:29PM THE ICE.
05:24:29PM I FELT LIKE -- I FELT LIKE I WASN'T BEING HEARD.
05:24:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES?
05:24:35PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE -- THE -- IT'S OBVIOUS AFFORDABLE
05:24:42PM HOUSING WAS NOT A PRIORITY IN THE LAST ADMINISTRATION.
05:24:44PM THEY FOR DOWN 2,000 HOMES INSTEAD OF BUILDING NEW ONES.
05:24:48PM AS THIS ADMINISTRATION COMES ON BOARD -- I DON'T ALWAYS GET
05:24:52PM ALONG WITH MAYOR CASTOR AND HAD A COMMITTEE THAT LOOKED AT
05:24:56PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND CAME UP WITH A PLAN AND CAME UP WITH
05:24:58PM THE $10,000 NUMBER.
05:25:00PM AS MISS TRAVIS SAID, IF YOU ARE NOT -- IF YOU WERE NOT -- 23
05:25:05PM YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, YOU ARE A LAYPERSON.
05:25:07PM I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
05:25:09PM AND I KNOW A SMALL PART OF WHAT THEY KNOW.
05:25:12PM AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE WERE LAYPEOPLE THAT
05:25:16PM DIDN'T HAVE EXPERIENCE.
05:25:17PM AND THAT IS WHERE THAT GOAL CAME FROM.
05:25:19PM AND THE MAYOR WANTED TO TAKE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THAT
05:25:22PM COMMITTEE.
05:25:22PM THERE WAS A DIFFERENT STAFF AT THAT TIME, TOO, THAT THIS
05:25:27PM MAYOR HAD INHERITED.
05:25:29PM WHAT HAPPENED SINCE, NICOLE CAME ON AND I THINK NICOLE IS
05:25:33PM ONE OF THE BEST PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION PEOPLE I EVER WORKED
05:25:36PM WITH.
05:25:36PM SHE HAS INTEGRITY AND BRILLIANT.
05:25:38PM MAYOR HIRED HER.
05:25:41PM HATS OFF.
05:25:42PM AND BROUGHT IN KAYON, BRILLIANT IN HOUSING.
05:25:45PM BROUGHT IN ALIS.
05:25:47PM JAVIER.
05:25:48PM A GREAT TEAM OF PEOPLE GREAT EXPERTS, TOP OF THEIR GAME.
05:25:51PM THE TEAM HAS ONLY BEEN FORMED IN THE LAST YEAR.
05:25:53PM SO SPENT THE LAST THREE YEARS PART OF IT GOING THROUGH COVID
05:25:59PM AND PART OF IT RECOVERING FROM NOT HAVING ANYTHING BEFORE,
05:26:02PM AND NOW I THINK THAT IT IS A TIME -- I THINK IT IS AN
05:26:05PM OPPORTUNITY FOR THE MAYOR TO RESET HOPEFULLY IN
05:26:08PM COLLABORATION WITH COUNCIL, WORKING WITH EXCELLENT STAFF AND
05:26:13PM HOPEFULLY HIT THE RESET BUTTON AND WHAT THE REAL GOALS ARE
05:26:18PM AND WHAT EVERYTHING -- AND HOPEFULLY THE STAFF'S BRILLIANCE
05:26:21PM WILL BE ABLE TO SHINE AND WE ARE ABLE TO COLLABORATE ON THAT
05:26:24PM DAY.
05:26:24PM AS FAR AS WE SOMETIMES HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH STAFF,
05:26:28PM SOMETIMES BECAUSE THEY DESERVE IT.
05:26:29PM BUT SOMETIMES THEY DON'T.
05:26:31PM AND -- AND WE GET FRUSTRATED BECAUSE OF MAYBE WE HAVE
05:26:35PM BEEN TREATED ON OTHER THINGS.
05:26:36PM I AM GUILTY OF THAT.
05:26:37PM AND I APOLOGIZE ALL THE TIME TO STAFF IF I DO THAT.
05:26:41PM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO KEEP THE BRILLIANT STAFF PEOPLE.
05:26:45PM WE NEED THEM.
05:26:45PM OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS THEM.
05:26:46PM EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO WORKS HERE IS EARNING LESS THAN THEY
05:26:51PM WOULD BE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
05:26:53PM THEY ARE MAKING THE SACRIFICE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HELP THE
05:26:57PM COMMUNITY LIKE WE DO.
05:26:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EARNING LESS THAN THE PRIVATE SECTOR DO?
05:27:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, ANY NEW BUSINESS.
05:27:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: TWO REALLY QUICK IF I MAY.
05:27:06PM I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE ISSUE REGARDING RESOLUTIONS.
05:27:11PM I JUST HAVE I, VERY BRIEFLY.
05:27:13PM AFGHANISTAN, ONE WAS ON REFUGEES.
05:27:16PM I WASN'T DOING ANYTHING ON THE WAR OF AFGHANISTAN AND
05:27:19PM ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
05:27:20PM SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES WISDOM ON THE PART OF COUNCILMEMBERS
05:27:25PM IN TERMS OF WHAT GOING TO BRING IN, ETC.
05:27:27PM THERE WERE TWO VERSIONS OF IT.
05:27:31PM THE ONE OF THE OVERTURNING OF ROE V. WADE AND THE DOBBS
05:27:35PM DECISION.
05:27:35PM SOME PEOPLE WILL DISAGREE.
05:27:36PM SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE PRO-CHOICE WILL DISAGREE, BY THE WAY,
05:27:41PM BUT CERTAIN THINGS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD HEAR FROM THEIR
05:27:47PM ELECTIVES.
05:27:47PM A WAY OF WISDOM, DISCERNMENT WHATNOT.
05:27:50PM THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
05:27:52PM REALLY QUICK IF I MAY, JANUARY 24, I WAS GOING TO HAVE STAFF
05:27:56PM COME ON --
05:27:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 25th.
05:27:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: SORRY, THANK YOU FROM FOREST HILL SPORTS FIELD
05:28:04PM RENAMING FOR ROLAND PASS SR.
05:28:08PM THEY ARE REQUESTING CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 4.
05:28:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:28:12PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:28:14PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:28:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEN SOMEBODY I KNOW WE ALL LOVE A LOT CHERYL
05:28:19PM SCHROEDER IS RETIRING.
05:28:21PM A WONDERFUL LABOR LEADER.
05:28:22PM I SPOKE TO HER OF GETTING A COUNCIL HONOR FOR HER.
05:28:25PM AND WE CAME ON THE AGREEMENT REQUEST COUNCIL'S CONSENT OF
05:28:29PM MARCH 28.
05:28:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
05:28:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:28:33PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:28:34PM ANYTHING ELSE?
05:28:35PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
05:28:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
05:28:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. SHELBY.
05:28:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
05:28:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH COUNCIL'S DISCUSSION ON FEBRUARY 15
05:28:46PM REGARDING WALK-ON ITEMS.
05:28:47PM JUST AS A FOLLOW-UP TO YOUR SPECIAL DISCUSSION MEETING.
05:28:51PM I WILL WORK WITH MISS LUCAS AND MISS EDWARDS TO SYNTHESIZE
05:29:01PM ABBREVIATED DISCUSSION OF CONSENSUS FOR COUNCIL OF THINGS WE
05:29:05PM CAN AGREE CONTINUE TO ADJUST YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS AND THE
05:29:09PM LIKE.
05:29:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO SPEAK TO EACH OF US INDIVIDUALLY TO
05:29:14PM GET OUR THOUGHTS?
05:29:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THAT IS A GOOD IDEA.
05:29:17PM [LAUGHTER]
05:29:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT IS IT.
05:29:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST TO -- WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.
05:29:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM
05:29:26PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND SECONDED FROM VIERA.
05:29:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO GLAD WE HAVE THIS TIME TOGETHER.
05:29:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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