TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 8, 2024, 5:01 P.M.
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5:05:45PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
5:05:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HELLO, EVERYONE.
5:05:50PM WELCOME TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
5:05:51PM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
5:05:54PM AT THIS TIME, MAY I HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE?
5:05:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
5:05:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
5:06:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
5:06:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
5:06:05PM >> VIERA?
5:06:05PM MIRANDA?
5:06:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
5:06:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
5:06:08PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
5:06:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:06:10PM YES, MA'AM, MS. DOCK.
5:06:12PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
5:06:14PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:06:16PM I WOULD LIKE TO CLEAR THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING, IF I MAY.
5:06:19PM ON ITEM NUMBER 1, THERE IS A REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT TO
5:06:23PM CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO MARCH 21st, 2024 AT 5:01 P.M.
5:06:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
5:06:29PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
5:06:31PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
5:06:32PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:06:32PM AYE.
5:06:33PM ANY OPPOSED?
5:06:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, CAN WE HAVE THE DATE, TIME, AND
5:06:37PM LOCATION?
5:06:42PM >>THE CLERK: MEETING WILL BE HELD AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST
5:06:45PM KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
5:06:49PM THE TIME WILL BE 5:01 P.M., MARCH 21st, 2024.
5:06:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:07:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
5:07:01PM WHAT'S NEXT?
5:07:02PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
5:07:03PM THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 10, REZ 23-112.
5:07:09PM THIS ITEM IS A MISNOTICED AND WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE
5:07:11PM AGENDA, PLEASE.
5:07:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 10?
5:07:14PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:07:16PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:07:17PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:07:18PM AYE.
5:07:22PM ANYTHING ELSE?
5:07:23PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THAT'S ALL THE ITEMS.
5:07:25PM WHEN YOU ARE READY, WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER 2.
5:07:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC
5:07:31PM HEARINGS?
5:07:31PM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, SECOND FROM VIERA.
5:07:36PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:07:36PM AYE.
5:07:37PM ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE OPEN.
5:07:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE WE BEGIN, WITH REGARD TO ALL OF THIS
5:07:42PM EVENING'S PUBLIC HEARINGS, I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO MAKE A
5:07:44PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE ALL EX PARTE COMMUNICATIONS,
5:07:47PM WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE AND MADE
5:07:50PM AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, IF YOU CAN DO THAT AS A MOTION,
5:07:52PM PLEASE.
5:07:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
5:07:55PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
5:07:56PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:07:57PM AYE.
5:07:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND A REMINDER, COUNCIL, WHEN THE TIME
5:08:01PM COMES BEFORE EACH HEARING, IF THERE HAVE BEEN ANY VERBAL EX
5:08:05PM PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT NEED TO BE DISCLOSED, PLEASE DO SO
5:08:08PM AT THE TIME AND I'LL REMIND YOU WITH REGARD TO LATER ITEMS,
5:08:11PM I'LL BRING THAT UP AGAIN.
5:08:13PM THANK YOU.
5:08:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
5:08:14PM YES, MA'AM.
5:08:15PM ITEM NUMBER 2.
5:08:16PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, DO WE WANT TO SWEAR?
5:08:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY ABOUT THAT.
5:08:21PM BEFORE WE BEGIN, I BELIEVE THIS WILL BE LOGISTICALLY
5:08:24PM DIFFERENT, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN TO COUNCIL HOW WE'RE GOING
5:08:26PM TO HANDLE THAT.
5:08:28PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES.
5:08:30PM SO ITEM NUMBER 2 WE WILL HAVE CLOSED CAPTIONING SERVICES.
5:08:35PM AND THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS THE SCREEN THAT YOU
5:08:38PM SEE BEFORE YOU.
5:08:39PM ONE THING THAT WE ASK IS A FRIENDLY REMINDER, AS COUNCIL
5:08:43PM SPEAKS AND DURING DISCUSSIONS, IF YOU COULD ENSURE THAT YOUR
5:08:46PM MIKES ARE TURNED ON AND THAT WAY IT COULD BE CAPTURED ON THE
5:08:50PM CAPTIONING.
5:08:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
5:08:52PM LET'S DO THIS.
5:08:53PM IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK ON ANY ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA,
5:08:56PM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU
5:08:59PM IN.
5:08:59PM IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK, PRESENT, GIVE COMMENT, PLEASE
5:09:02PM STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
5:09:09PM >> DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE ABOUT TO
5:09:11PM GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
5:09:14PM >> I DO.
5:09:15PM >> THANK YOU.
5:09:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:09:16PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
5:09:17PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
5:09:20PM ITEM 2 IS REZ-23-101 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4170 EAST
5:09:25PM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
5:09:26PM THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED BY RICHARD MARCEAU.
5:09:29PM THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY.
5:09:32PM THIS PROPERTY HAS A DUAL ZONING.
5:09:34PM IT HAS RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 24, RM-24 ON THE NORTHERN
5:09:38PM PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND THEN ALONG THE SOUTH IT HAS CI,
5:09:42PM COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE ZONING AS IT FRONTS HILLSBOROUGH
5:09:45PM AVENUE.
5:09:46PM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO PD, PLANNED
5:09:48PM DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR VEHICLE REPAIR MAJOR
5:09:52PM RETAIL SALES SHOPPERS GOODS AND OPEN STORAGE ON-SITE.
5:09:55PM I'LL TURN IT OVER TO EMILY TO GO OVER THE PLANNING
5:09:58PM COMMISSION'S REPORT AND I'LL COME BACK AND GIVE MY REPORT.
5:10:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
5:10:01PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:10:01PM YES, MA'AM.
5:10:14PM GO AHEAD.
5:10:15PM >> CAN YOU SEE THE SCREEN?
5:10:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
5:10:17PM DO YOU HAVE AN OVERHEAD?
5:10:18PM OKAY.
5:10:19PM WE'LL GET THE OVERHEAD ON HERE.
5:10:22PM IT'S COMING.
5:10:27PM ALL RIGHT.
5:10:39PM THERE WE GO.
5:10:40PM GO AHEAD.
5:10:42PM >>> EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
5:10:45PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA
5:10:47PM PLANNING DISTRICT AND THE EAST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE AND
5:10:49PM NORTHEAST COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:10:50PM THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA,
5:10:53PM SPECIFICALLY EVACUATION ZONE E.
5:10:56PM THE SURROUNDING AREA CONTAINS A MIXTURE OF USES WITH
5:10:59PM COMMERCIAL USES ALONG EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE AND
5:11:02PM MULTIFAMILY USES TO THE NORTH, EAST, AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT
5:11:06PM SITE.
5:11:06PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE OUTLINED IN PURPLE, AND IT IS
5:11:13PM REPRESENTED BY THE CC 35 COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 FUTURE LAND
5:11:18PM USE DESIGNATION, WHICH IS THE RED, WHICH IS ALSO ALONG EAST
5:11:21PM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
5:11:23PM AND THE SMALL PORTION IN THE BACK IS THE RESIDENTIAL 35
5:11:27PM DESIGNATION, WHICH IS ALSO TO THE NORTH WHERE THAT
5:11:29PM MULTIFAMILY IS.
5:11:30PM AND TO THE NORTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE IS RESIDENTIAL 20
5:11:35PM AND FURTHER IS THE RESIDENTIAL 10.
5:11:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.
5:11:40PM IS THAT MICROPHONE ON?
5:11:41PM IS IT GREEN?
5:11:42PM THE BAR UP FRONT?
5:11:46PM >>EMILY PHELAN: YES, SIR.
5:11:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.
5:11:49PM SOMEBODY IN THE AUDIENCE HAS INDICATED THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO
5:11:52PM HEAR THE TESTIMONY.
5:11:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY, THE SAME THING WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING
5:11:55PM EARLIER, I DON'T THINK IT WAS GOING THROUGH THE
5:11:57PM AMPLIFICATION.
5:11:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COULD THE FOLKS IN THE BACK MAYBE RAISE
5:12:01PM THE VOLUME OR AMPLIFICATION FOR THE MICROPHONES?
5:12:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
5:12:05PM >>EMILY PHELAN: DO I NEED TO REPEAT ANYTHING?
5:12:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT PICKED IT UP ON THE CLOSED
5:12:11PM CAPTIONING.
5:12:11PM YEAH, JUST CONTINUE.
5:12:12PM >>EMILY PHELAN: OKAY.
5:12:14PM JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.
5:12:15PM VEHICULAR REPAIR, ACCESSORY OPEN STORAGE OFFICE AND RETAIL
5:12:21PM SALES SHOP OR GOODS COULD BE CONSIDERED ON THE CC 35
5:12:24PM DESIGNATION.
5:12:24PM THESE USES TYPICALLY CANNOT BE CONSIDERED IN THE RESIDENTIAL
5:12:27PM 35 DESIGNATION.
5:12:28PM HOWEVER, DUE TO THE SITE BEING WITHIN THE EAST TAMPA URBAN
5:12:31PM VILLAGE, THE SITE IS ELIGIBLE TO UTILIZE LAND USE POLICY
5:12:35PM 5.1.6.
5:12:36PM THIS POLICY ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO PROPORTIONALLY WEIGH THE
5:12:41PM FLOOR AREA RATIO AND PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE CC 35
5:12:44PM DESIGNATION THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SITE THROUGH A PLANNED
5:12:47PM DEVELOPMENT.
5:12:48PM PER NOTE 4 ON THE SITE PLAN, THE APPLICANT IS UTILIZING THIS
5:12:51PM POLICY.
5:12:52PM THIS POLICY ALSO REQUIRES MITIGATION OF ALL OFF-SITE IMPACTS
5:12:56PM TO SURROUNDING USES.
5:12:57PM THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING A 15-FOOT BUFFER ALONG THE
5:13:01PM PORTIONS OF THE SITE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL USES.
5:13:04PM THE SITE IS WITHIN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR AND ALONG A TRANSIT
5:13:08PM EMPHASIS CORRIDOR.
5:13:09PM THROUGH THE -- THOUGH THE DEVELOPMENT IS INTENSIVE IN
5:13:12PM NATURE, THE APPLICANT ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE MIXED USE
5:13:16PM CENTERS AND CORRIDOR POLICIES BY PROVIDING A FIVE FOOT
5:13:19PM PEDESTRIAN PATHWAY THAT CONNECTS THE ENTRANCES TO THE
5:13:22PM SHOWROOM SALES FLOOR TO THE SIDEWALK ON EAST HILLSBOROUGH
5:13:26PM AVENUE AND A CONNECTION IS PROPOSED TO THE PARKING AREA,
5:13:29PM WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH LAND USE POLICY 15.2.6.
5:13:33PM GIVEN THE INTENSE NATURE OF THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL USES AND
5:13:36PM THE EXISTING BUILDING LOCATIONS, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF
5:13:39PM FINDS THE REQUEST ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE MIXED USE CENTERS
5:13:43PM AND CORRIDOR POLICIES.
5:13:44PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REQUESTS THAT BETWEEN FIRST AND
5:13:47PM SECOND READING THE APPLICANT LABEL ALL BUILDING ENTRANCES.
5:13:50PM IN CONCLUSION, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL
5:13:53PM POLICY AND DIRECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
5:13:56PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:13:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
5:13:59PM NO.
5:14:00PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:14:00PM YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
5:14:02PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU AGAIN, COUNCIL.
5:14:03PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:14:05PM AND THIS PD REQUEST WOULD ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF 6,215
5:14:10PM SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL USES ON-SITE.
5:14:13PM THIS PARCEL MEASURES APPROXIMATELY 150 FEET IN WIDTH.
5:14:17PM THIS IS THE FRONTAGE, WHICH IS ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
5:14:20PM IT'S 306 FEET IN DEPTH.
5:14:22PM THIS PD ALLOWS FOR THE USES OF MAJOR VEHICLE REPAIR.
5:14:26PM THE RETAIL SALES SHOPPER GOODS, ALONG WITH OPEN STORAGE USE
5:14:31PM ON-SITE.
5:14:31PM THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY, AND IT
5:14:34PM MUST COMPLY WITH EAST TAMPA OVERLAY STANDARDS AT THE TIME OF
5:14:37PM PERMITTING.
5:14:38PM I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE SITE PLAN.
5:14:41PM THIS IS THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED.
5:14:44PM SO THIS IS HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, AND THIS IS THE PROPERTY
5:14:49PM BOUNDARY.
5:14:49PM SO THIS LINE HERE -- THIS IS THE LINE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL,
5:14:55PM WHICH IS LOCATED TO THE NORTH.
5:14:57PM THE CURRENT ZONING OF THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 24 AND
5:15:00PM YOUR CI ZONING, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, IS LOCATED ON THE
5:15:03PM SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE.
5:15:04PM THERE IS ONE POINT OF ENTRY TO THE SITE, AND THAT IS ON EAST
5:15:07PM HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
5:15:08PM THE FIVE BUILDINGS ARE IDENTIFIED AND NUMBERED ON THE SITE
5:15:12PM PLAN.
5:15:12PM THIS IS BUILDING NUMBER ONE.
5:15:14PM THIS IS BUILDING NUMBER TWO.
5:15:16PM BUILDING NUMBER THREE IS THE OFFICE, WHICH WOULD REMAIN, THE
5:15:20PM MODULAR OFFICE.
5:15:21PM THEN THERE IS BUILDING FOUR AND BUILDING FIVE.
5:15:23PM BUILDING FIVE CURRENTLY EXISTS AND IT IS ON THE EASTERN
5:15:27PM PROPERTY LINE.
5:15:28PM THERE IS NOT MUCH OF A SETBACK AS IT EXISTS TODAY, BUT THE
5:15:31PM APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO MOVE THAT BUILDING.
5:15:33PM IT WOULD BE REBUILT AND PROVIDE THIS 15-FOOT REQUIRED
5:15:38PM BUFFER.
5:15:38PM IN THE PICTURES I WILL SHOW YOU, YOU'LL SEE THE MULTIFAMILY
5:15:41PM THAT EXISTS TO THE NORTH, THE EAST, ALONG THIS BOUNDARY OF
5:15:45PM THE SITE.
5:15:46PM AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THAT 15-FOOT BUFFER REQUIREMENT HAS
5:15:49PM BEEN PROVIDED ALL ALONG THE NORTH.
5:15:51PM THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO PROVIDE THAT.
5:15:53PM SURFACE PARKING IS PROVIDED ON THE SITE.
5:15:56PM THERE'S SURFACE PARKING LOCATED HERE BY THE OFFICE BUILDING,
5:16:00PM AND THEN THERE'S SURFACE PARKING SPACES LOCATED HERE IN
5:16:03PM FRONT OF THE BUILDING ONE, WHICH WOULD CONTAIN THE SALES
5:16:07PM FLOOR.
5:16:07PM SO THERE IS A WALKWAY, PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY PROVIDED HERE, AND
5:16:11PM THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THE SIDEWALK ON EAST HILLSBOROUGH
5:16:15PM AVENUE.
5:16:15PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE AERIAL OF THE SITE.
5:16:21PM SO THIS IS THE SITE LOCATED ON HILLSBOROUGH.
5:16:24PM THIS IS HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
5:16:26PM THIS IS 40th STREET.
5:16:27PM SO THIS IS THE SITE THAT'S LOCATED HERE IN RED.
5:16:30PM YOU CAN SEE THE RM 24 ZONING ON THE NORTH END OF THE
5:16:35PM PROPERTY.
5:16:36PM SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY YOU HAVE YOUR PD ZONING, PLANNED
5:16:39PM DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS TO THE NORTH.
5:16:40PM THAT CONTAINS RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY USES.
5:16:43PM ALONG HILLSBOROUGH, ALONG THIS PORTION OF THIS CORRIDOR, YOU
5:16:46PM HAVE YOUR COMMERCIAL AND YOUR COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE USES.
5:16:49PM YOU HAVE YOUR CI ZONING TO THE EAST AND TO THE WEST.
5:16:51PM PD ZONING AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE, AND THESE USES
5:16:56PM ARE MOSTLY COMMERCIAL IN CHARACTER.
5:16:58PM AS YOU HEAD FURTHER SOUTH, YOU GET INTO YOUR RESIDENTIAL
5:17:01PM SINGLE-FAMILY ZONE AND THE SAME AS YOU HEAD FURTHER NORTH.
5:17:05PM YOU HAVE YOUR RS 50 ZONING DISTRICTS.
5:17:08PM AND I HAVE A FEW PICTURES OF THE SITE THAT I WOULD LIKE TO
5:17:11PM SHARE.
5:17:12PM SO THIS IS THE SITE LOCATED HERE ON HILLSBOROUGH.
5:17:20PM THIS IS IF YOU ARE ON HILLSBOROUGH LOOKING AT THE SITE.
5:17:22PM THAT'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THE SITE.
5:17:23PM THIS IS THE SITE IF YOU'RE LOOKING EAST ON HILLSBOROUGH.
5:17:30PM AND THIS IS A VIEW IF YOU'RE LOOKING WEST ON HILLSBOROUGH.
5:17:34PM THE SITE IS OFF TO THE RIGHT.
5:17:36PM SO THE SURROUNDING USES SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY, THIS IS TO
5:17:41PM THE WEST OF THE SITE.
5:17:43PM ON HILLSBOROUGH.
5:17:45PM THIS IS FURTHER WEST.
5:17:48PM THIS IS THE OTHER PD THAT'S TO THE WEST.
5:17:50PM THIS IS THE HOTEL USE.
5:17:54PM SO THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE.
5:17:56PM THIS IS RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
5:17:58PM THAT'S NORTH.
5:17:59PM YOU ACCESS THAT MULTIFAMILY ON 43rd STREET.
5:18:02PM THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW.
5:18:05PM THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO THAT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
5:18:08PM DEVELOPMENT.
5:18:10PM THIS IS IMMEDIATELY EAST OF THE SITE, AND THIS IS A
5:18:13PM COMMERCIAL USE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS USE, WHICH IS THE
5:18:17PM VEHICLE SALES.
5:18:18PM THIS IS SOUTH OF THE SITE ACROSS HILLSBOROUGH AND THEN THIS
5:18:25PM IS ANOTHER VIEW SOUTH OF THE SITE ACROSS HILLSBOROUGH
5:18:27PM AVENUE.
5:18:28PM THE DRC STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE REQUEST AND FINDS THE REQUEST
5:18:34PM INCONSISTENT.
5:18:35PM SEE THE FINDINGS FROM TRANSPORTATION AND IT'S RELATED TO THE
5:18:39PM PARKING WAIVER REQUESTED.
5:18:40PM NOTWITHSTANDING STAFF'S FINDING OF INCONSISTENCY.
5:18:42PM IF CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE APPLICATION, THE MODIFICATIONS
5:18:45PM ON THE SITE PLAN AS SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED REVISION SHEET
5:18:48PM MUST BE COMPLETED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
5:18:51PM THESE REVISIONS WILL NOT RESOLVE THE ISSUES FOR
5:18:56PM TRANSPORTATION AND THEIR FINDINGS OF INCONSISTENT.
5:18:59PM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
5:19:00PM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:19:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
5:19:03PM NO.
5:19:03PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:19:04PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
5:19:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE FOR ITEM
5:19:07PM NUMBER 2?
5:19:08PM APPLICANT?
5:19:20PM >> DANIEL TRUONG.
5:19:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE SWORN IN.
5:19:30PM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
5:19:32PM >> RICHARD MARCEAU.
5:19:33PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE
5:19:35PM ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
5:19:38PM >> YES.
5:19:40PM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
5:19:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
5:19:41PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
5:19:44PM >> DANIEL WANTS TO MOVE HIS SHOP DOWN TO HILLSBOROUGH
5:19:48PM AVENUE.
5:19:49PM HE HIRED ME AS A CIVIL ENGINEER TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
5:19:53PM HE DECIDED HE WANTED TO GET RID OF THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING ON
5:19:59PM THE NORTH SIDE, SO WE APPLIED FOR THE REZONE.
5:20:07PM CURRENTLY, HE RENTS IT OUT TO A VEHICLE REPAIR COMPANY.
5:20:21PM THAT GUY HAS BEEN THERE FOR PROBABLY CLOSE TO TEN YEARS.
5:20:25PM HE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN 2014 AND STARTED LEASING IT TO THE
5:20:31PM AUTO REPAIR GUY.
5:20:34PM SO THEY ARE GOING TO SPLIT THE SITE.
5:20:39PM THE AUTO REPAIR IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE, ON THE EAST SIDE AND
5:20:42PM HE WILL BE ON THE LEFT SIDE WITH HIS SHOP.
5:20:53PM CURRENTLY UP ON ROWLETT PARK DRIVE.
5:20:55PM THAT'S WHERE HIS OFFICE IS RIGHT NOW.
5:20:57PM HE'S HOPING TO COMBINE THE TWO ZONINGS.
5:21:03PM IF HE EVER DECIDES TO SELL, IT WOULD BE MORE ATTRACTIVE AND
5:21:08PM HE HAS -- ONE OF HIS BUILDINGS RIGHT NOW IS ON RM 24 SIDE OF
5:21:15PM THE PROPERTY.
5:21:18PM IT'S AN OLDER -- THEY USE IT -- IT'S A FRAME REPAIR SHOP
5:21:25PM RIGHT NOW.
5:21:27PM TO PASS, THIS WILL BE CUT DOWN IN SIZE AND REBUILT.
5:21:38PM IT'S NOT A REAL BIG BUILDING.
5:21:42PM I THINK THAT'S -- YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR
5:21:51PM QUITE A WHILE AND REALLY WANTS TO GET IT REZONED, WANTS TO
5:21:55PM COMBINE THE ZONINGS.
5:21:58PM SO ANY QUESTIONS?
5:21:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
5:22:00PM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:22:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. DOCK.
5:22:04PM THANK YOU.
5:22:11PM THE GENTLEMAN SAID THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THEY WANT TO
5:22:14PM REZONE THIS IS SO IT BECOMES MORE PALATABLE IF THEY WERE TO
5:22:19PM SELL IT.
5:22:20PM BUT THIS IS A PD, CORRECT?
5:22:21PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
5:22:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEY COULD MAKE NO CHANGES TO THIS, ADDING
5:22:27PM BUILDINGS, CHANGING USE, DOING ANYTHING UNLESS THEY CAME
5:22:31PM BACK TO COUNCIL AGAIN, CORRECT?
5:22:32PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
5:22:33PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:22:35PM THIS REQUEST IS FOR A PD, SO THIS IS ON THE PROPERTY, THIS
5:22:39PM PD ZONING, IF IT WERE APPROVED AND YOU COULD NOT CHANGE THE
5:22:42PM USES WITHOUT COMING BEFORE COUNCIL TO RECEIVE APPROVAL.
5:22:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
5:22:46PM SO IT CAN ONLY BE USED FOR VEHICLE REPAIR, MAJOR RETAIL
5:22:51PM SALES, SHOPPER GOODS AND OPEN STORAGE.
5:22:54PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
5:22:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WITH THE PARKING THE WAY IT IS AND THE
5:22:57PM BUILDINGS WHERE THEY ARE.
5:22:58PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
5:22:59PM THIS PD CONTROLS THE PROPERTY AND THE USE.
5:23:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
5:23:02PM THANK YOU.
5:23:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:23:03PM ANYBODY ELSE?
5:23:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I WANT TO ASK THE PETITIONER, DO YOU
5:23:07PM UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT THIS CHANGE DOES NOT REZONE THE
5:23:11PM PROPERTY?
5:23:11PM IT JUST SIMPLY ALLOWS YOUR FRIEND TO USE IT FOR WHAT HE
5:23:19PM PLANS TO USE IT FOR, BUT IT IS NOT A REZONING THAT CAN THEN
5:23:22PM BE TRANSFERRED TO OTHERS.
5:23:25PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: IF I MAY, COUNCIL, LaCHONE DOCK,
5:23:29PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:23:29PM THIS IS A REZONING TO A PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND THE
5:23:32PM USES YOU WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE ON THE PROPERTY ARE
5:23:35PM VEHICLE REPAIR MAJOR, RETAIL SALES SHOPPER GOODS AND OPEN
5:23:39PM STORAGE.
5:23:39PM THOSE ARE THE ONLY USES ALLOWED.
5:23:41PM AND THIS PD PLAN CONTROLS THE SITE IF IT IS APPROVED.
5:23:50PM >> YOU SAY IT WOULDN'T BE REZONED?
5:23:53PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: REZONED TO PD FOR THIS USE AND THE
5:23:57PM PLACEMENT.
5:23:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WOULD HAVE TO BE EXACTLY AS THE SITE PLAN
5:24:01PM SHOWS.
5:24:01PM THERE COULD BE NO CHANGES UNLESS YOU CAME BACK TO COUNCIL
5:24:04PM FOR ANOTHER REZONING.
5:24:06PM DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT?
5:24:07PM DOES YOUR FRIEND UNDERSTAND THAT?
5:24:18PM >> WHAT SAY ABOUT NO REZONING?
5:24:29PM >> THE USES SHOWN HERE, INCLUDES VEHICLE REPAIR, MAJOR
5:24:39PM RETAIL --
5:24:40PM >> MAYBE HE CAN MOVE IT OUT, TOO.
5:24:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN?
5:24:49PM CAN YOU JUST TELL US YOUR NAME.
5:24:52PM >> I'M DANIEL TRUONG.
5:24:55PM I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
5:24:56PM YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT NOT REZONE, BUT I JUST WANTED THE
5:25:02PM WHOLE PROPERTY BECOME ONE ZONE.
5:25:04PM EVEN CHANGE THAT, PUT A DIFFERENT BUILDING FOR RENT OR
5:25:09PM WHATEVER REASON, I CAN BE IN ONE ZONE.
5:25:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT THAT IS NOT HOW THIS WORKS.
5:25:16PM I'LL LET MS. DOCK EXPLAIN.
5:25:21PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:25:23PM YOUR REQUEST THAT IS HERE THIS EVENING IS TO REZONE THE
5:25:26PM PROPERTY TO A PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
5:25:29PM THIS IS YOUR SITE PLAN WHICH WAS SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORD.
5:25:33PM THIS IS YOUR SITE PLAN AND THE THREE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED
5:25:38PM ARE THE VEHICLE REPAIR MAJOR, RETAIL SALES SHOPPER'S GOODS
5:25:42PM AND OPEN STORAGE.
5:25:43PM AND THIS IS YOUR SITE.
5:25:44PM THIS EVENING, IF IT WERE APPROVED, YOU WOULD HAVE A REZONING
5:25:47PM TO A PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT CONTROLLED BY THIS SITE PLAN.
5:25:53PM >> WHAT ARE WE CHANGING?
5:25:54PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: RIGHT NOW, IT IS CI, COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE
5:25:57PM AND RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
5:25:58PM THIS IS WHAT THIS IS.
5:26:03PM THIS IS ONE COMPLETE --
5:26:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HIS QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS IF HE CHANGES
5:26:06PM IT AND YOU CANNOT CHANGE IT?
5:26:07PM YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO US, GO THROUGH A FULL PD PROCESS IF
5:26:13PM YOU WANTED TO CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT THE SITE PLAN THAT YOU
5:26:15PM PRESENTED TODAY.
5:26:20PM >> I HAVE TO KEEP IT EXACTLY LIKE THAT.
5:26:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CORRECT.
5:26:22PM >> WHATEVER I CHANGE, IT'S NOT ALLOWED.
5:26:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
5:26:26PM >> I THINK I'M PROBABLY GOING TO CANCEL THAT.
5:26:30PM SO IF WE WANT TO PUT DIFFERENT BUILDING, HAVE TO PULL
5:26:33PM DIFFERENT PERMIT FOR THAT, RIGHT?
5:26:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO US.
5:26:38PM >> IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.
5:26:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:26:43PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:26:44PM SO WITH YOUR REQUEST THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY, IF YOU
5:26:48PM WERE TO CHANGE ANY USES THAT WERE NOT LISTED ON THIS PLAN,
5:26:52PM YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL.
5:26:55PM >> I THOUGHT REZONE, MAKE IT ONE ZONE DO WHATEVER AFTER.
5:26:59PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: AFTER TODAY, REZONE TO ONE, YOU WOULD HAVE
5:27:02PM THE ONE PD BUT LIMITED TO THESE THREE USES.
5:27:05PM VEHICLE REPAIR, RETAIL SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS AND OPEN
5:27:09PM STORAGE, WHICH IS WHAT YOU APPLIED FOR.
5:27:12PM >> I WANT IT TO BECOME ONE ZONE.
5:27:14PM IT WOULD BE EASY TO DO WHATEVER, RENTAL BUILDING ON THERE,
5:27:19PM WHATEVER.
5:27:19PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: ONE PD BUT LIMITED TO THESE PLACEMENTS OF
5:27:22PM THE BUILDING.
5:27:23PM >> IF I WANT TO GET THE FRONT ONLY COMMERCIAL AND THE BACK
5:27:27PM PARKING, I DON'T HAVE TO DO REZONE.
5:27:29PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YOU HAVE TO STICK TO THIS.
5:27:31PM THIS IS YOUR PLAN.
5:27:34PM >> STICK BY THAT, OKAY.
5:27:35PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: WOULD YOU LIKE TO --
5:27:39PM >> I DIDN'T KNOW IT HAVE TO BE LIKE THAT.
5:27:42PM I THOUGHT A REZONE AND CHANGE IT LATER.
5:27:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO SAY, IF WE'RE NOT SURE, NOW IS
5:27:47PM A GOOD TIME TO REVISIT MAYBE A CONTINUANCE OR A REVOKING OF
5:27:56PM THIS.
5:27:58PM IF THIS IS NOT EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND
5:28:03PM THAT YOU -- I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THIS.
5:28:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MS. DOCK, WHAT IT APPEARS AND I DON'T WANT
5:28:11PM TO SPEAK FOR YOU, SIR, BUT IT APPEARS THAT WHAT YOU'RE
5:28:14PM LOOKING FOR IS THE FLEXIBILITY OF HAVING CHANGES OF USE
5:28:17PM WITHIN YOUR PROPERTY, BUT YOU ALL WANT THE RESIDENTIAL AS
5:28:21PM PART OF THE COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE.
5:28:24PM IS THAT WHAT YOUR INTENTION IS?
5:28:26PM >> CORRECT, YES.
5:28:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT
5:28:30PM BECAUSE WHAT IS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL WOULD LOCK YOU IN AND
5:28:33PM REQUIRE YOU TO MAINTAIN THAT SITE THE WAY IT LOOKS WITH THE
5:28:37PM USES THAT HAVE BEEN APPLIED FOR.
5:28:39PM AND IT WOULD STAY UNTIL YOU HAVE TO CHANGE IT, WHICH IS
5:28:42PM ANOTHER PROCESS.
5:28:43PM MS. DOCK, AM I STATING THIS CORRECTLY FOR THE RECORD?
5:28:46PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: CORRECT.
5:28:47PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:28:49PM THAT IS CORRECT.
5:28:50PM THIS REQUEST ALLOWS YOU THESE THREE SPECIFIC USES.
5:28:54PM ALONG WITH THIS PLACEMENT ON-SITE.
5:28:57PM THIS IS WHAT WE WORKED TO BRING FORWARD TODAY.
5:29:03PM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]
5:29:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: -- STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND
5:29:29PM WHAT IT IS YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.
5:29:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. SHELBY, IF I MAY, AND MR. CHAIR, MAYBE
5:29:37PM THEY WANT TO GO AFTER THE NEXT ONE.
5:29:39PM YOU'RE HERE IN THE PUBLIC.
5:29:42PM THERE'S A LOT OF PRESSURE ON YOU.
5:29:44PM IT'S NOT EASY TO THINK SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE IN PUBLIC.
5:29:47PM MAYBE TAKING 20 MINUTES TO PRIVATELY SPEAK WOULD BENEFIT
5:29:50PM THEM TO WEIGH ALL THEIR OPTIONS.
5:29:54PM THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.
5:29:59PM MAYBE THEY CONTINUE.
5:30:00PM MAYBE THEY GO FORWARD TODAY, BUT PROBABLY JUST TO STEP
5:30:03PM OUTSIDE BECAUSE DISCUSSING IT IN PUBLIC PROBABLY WON'T GET
5:30:07PM THE BENEFIT OF YOUR DIALOGUE.
5:30:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MS. DOCK, ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THAT AND
5:30:13PM CONTINUE -- HAVE THE AGENDA CONTINUE.
5:30:15PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, I CAN CERTAINLY STEP OUT WITH THE
5:30:17PM APPLICANT AND EXPLAIN THE REQUEST TO BOTH THE APPLICANT AND
5:30:20PM REPRESENTATIVE AND WE'LL COME BACK.
5:30:22PM SAM WILL HANDLE THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
5:30:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO THAT.
5:30:29PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
5:30:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 3.
5:30:37PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:30:40PM REZ-23-68, A REQUEST TO REZONE 1735, 1733, 1729, 1725 AND
5:30:50PM 1723 WEST ANY OTHER A STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16
5:30:57PM TO COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:30:59PM I'LL TURN IT OVER TO EMILY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
5:31:07PM >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
5:31:10PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA
5:31:13PM PLANNING DISTRICT AND THE NORTH HYDE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:31:15PM THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA,
5:31:19PM SPECIFICALLY EVACUATION ZONE C.
5:31:20PM THIS IS AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE WHICH IS LOCATED HERE,
5:31:24PM AND THERE ARE A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND
5:31:27PM INDUSTRIAL USES IN THE AREA.
5:31:29PM THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF THE
5:31:33PM SUBJECT SITE.
5:31:33PM THE INDUSTRIAL USES ARE HERE AND THE COMMERCIAL USES ARE TO
5:31:37PM THE SOUTH AS WELL AS ALONG WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
5:31:41PM HERE IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
5:31:46PM THE SITE IS HERE, AND IT'S REPRESENTED BY THE RESIDENTIAL 35
5:31:50PM DESIGNATION.
5:31:51PM TO THE EAST THIS LIGHT PURPLE COLOR IS THE GENERAL MIXED USE
5:31:55PM 24.
5:31:56PM THE R 35 CONTINUES TO THE WEST.
5:31:59PM R 20 IS TO THE NORTH AND FURTHER SOUTH ALONG WEST KENNEDY
5:32:03PM BOULEVARD IS THE URBAN MIXED USE 60 DESIGNATION.
5:32:06PM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING CAN BE CONSIDERED IN THE
5:32:10PM RESIDENTIAL 35 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION IF THE SITE IS
5:32:13PM CONSISTENT WITH LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
5:32:15PM THE SUBJECT SITE MEETS SOME OF THE LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
5:32:18PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF RECOGNIZES THAT THE PROPOSED CN
5:32:22PM ZONING WOULD NOT INTRUDE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS COMMERCIAL
5:32:24PM USES ARE LOCATED TO THE SOUTH ALONG WEST KENNEDY BOULEVARD
5:32:28PM AND INDUSTRIAL USES ARE LOCATED TO THE EAST ALONG NORTH ROME
5:32:31PM AVENUE.
5:32:32PM THE SUBJECT SITE ALSO HAS ACCESS TO AN ALLEY ON THE NORTHERN
5:32:36PM PROPERTY BOUNDARY, THE ALLEY IS HERE, WHICH WOULD
5:32:41PM POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ACCESS POINTS AND THE
5:32:44PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES THE USE OF THE ALLEY.
5:32:46PM HOWEVER, THE SITE DOES NOT MEET OTHER CRITICAL COMPONENTS OF
5:32:50PM THE COMMERCIAL LOCATIONAL CRITERIA OUTLINED IN THE
5:32:52PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
5:32:53PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS BOUND BY LOCAL ROADWAYS AND THE
5:32:56PM LOCATIONAL CRITERIA STATES THAT THE SITE MUST HAVE ACCESS TO
5:32:59PM A ROADWAY CLASSIFIED AS A COLLECTOR OR HIGHER.
5:33:02PM ADDITIONALLY, COMMERCIAL ZONING DOES NOT REPRESENT 50% OR
5:33:06PM MORE OF THE BLOCK FACE.
5:33:07PM THE BLOCK FACE WAS DETERMINED TO BE PROPERTY ABUTTING THE
5:33:10PM NORTHERN PORTION OF WEST A STREET BETWEEN NORTH FREMONT
5:33:14PM AVENUE AND NORTH ROME AVENUE, THE BLOCK FACE WOULD BE THIS
5:33:18PM PORTION OF THE BLOCK.
5:33:19PM AND THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING IS HERE AND THE REMAINING OF THE
5:33:24PM ZONING IS THE RM 16.
5:33:26PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN
5:33:32PM APPROPRIATE AREAS.
5:33:33PM IF APPROVED, ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE SHOULD ADDRESS ALL
5:33:36PM APPLICABLE POLICIES DURING THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
5:33:38PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND
5:33:41PM ENCOURAGES COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT ENHANCES THE CITY'S
5:33:44PM CHARACTER AND AMBIENCE.
5:33:46PM DUE TO THIS REQUEST BEING A EUCLIDEAN REZONING, THE
5:33:49PM APPLICANT SHALL ADDRESS ALL APPLICABLE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
5:33:53PM POLICIES INCLUDING THE COMMERCIAL AREA POLICIES DURING THE
5:33:56PM PERMITTING PROCESS.
5:33:56PM OVERALL, THE PROPOSED REZONING DOES NOT MEET LOCATIONAL
5:33:59PM CRITERIA AND IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY DIRECTION IN
5:34:01PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
5:34:02PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
5:34:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
5:34:05PM NO.
5:34:06PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:34:07PM YES, SIR.
5:34:08PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:34:12PM WE'LL START OUT WITH AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
5:34:14PM YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED HERE ALONG WEST
5:34:23PM NORTH A STREET.
5:34:24PM THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE SITE IS A LITTLE BIT MIXED.
5:34:27PM TO THE EAST, AS EMILY MENTIONED, INDUSTRIAL USES, WAREHOUSE
5:34:32PM HERE AND WAREHOUSE HERE AND THE WALMART ON KENNEDY
5:34:35PM BOULEVARD, PROBABLY ALL FAMILIAR WITH UNDER THE IG ZONING.
5:34:39PM SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, COMMERCIAL GENERAL ZONING LOT
5:34:42PM THAT IS USED FOR A PARKING LOT.
5:34:44PM A LITTLE BIT OVER YOU HAVE ANOTHER PARKING LOT THAT IS
5:34:46PM RECOGNIZED UNDER THIS PD THAT'S ALONG KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND
5:34:49PM THAT WAS APPROVED FOR MEDICAL USES, LABORATORY USES AND I
5:34:52PM THINK A WALK-IN BANK AS WELL.
5:34:54PM AS YOU MOVE FARTHER WEST, YOU HAVE THE RM 24 ZONING DISTRICT
5:34:59PM WITH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND TO THE NORTH RM 16 ZONING
5:35:02PM DISTRICT, SO MIX OF SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED, SINGLE-FAMILY
5:35:04PM DETACHED.
5:35:07PM AS YOU MOVE FARTHER NORTH ALONG ROME AVENUE, YOU HAVE SOME
5:35:10PM OF THE BIGGER MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS.
5:35:13PM NEXT WE'LL GO TO THE PICTURES.
5:35:16PM THIS IS EUCLIDEAN, NO SITE PLAN OR ELEVATIONS.
5:35:19PM SO THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST ALONG WEST NORTH A STREET.
5:35:22PM SO THAT WAS THAT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF
5:35:25PM WEST NORTH A STREET AND YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
5:35:28PM YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THE
5:35:30PM BACKGROUND.
5:35:32PM THIS IS MOVING WEST ON WEST NORTH A STREET.
5:35:35PM SUBJECT SITE AGAIN.
5:35:38PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON WEST NORTH A STREET.
5:35:41PM THERE ARE WAREHOUSES ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
5:35:43PM THE WAREHOUSE ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THEN WALMART IS RIGHT
5:35:46PM HERE.
5:35:46PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON KENNEDY BOULEVARD TOWARDS KENNEDY
5:35:51PM BOULEVARD FROM WEST NORTH A.
5:35:52PM KENNEDY BOULEVARD IS BACK HERE.
5:35:54PM THERE IS INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
5:35:57PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON WEST NORTH A STREET.
5:36:00PM SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW LONG THE PROPERTY SUBJECT SITE
5:36:03PM GOES ALONG THE SIDE OF WEST NORTH A.
5:36:08PM THIS IS ALSO LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT SITE.
5:36:10PM FROM THE FENCE HERE TO THE END OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME IS
5:36:12PM THE ENTIRE ENCOMPASSING OF THE SUBJECT SITE GOING ALL THE
5:36:15PM WAY TO WHERE THAT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE IS ON THE NORTH SIDE
5:36:18PM OF WEST NORTH A.
5:36:19PM HERE IS ANOTHER VIEW LOOKING WEST.
5:36:22PM YOU CAN SEE THAT FENCE THERE IS THE END OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
5:36:26PM THESE ARE LOOKING NORTH ON WEST NORTH A STREET.
5:36:29PM THIS IS A LITTLE BIT FARTHER WEST PAST THE SUBJECT SITE.
5:36:32PM THESE WOULD BE THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT WOULD BE
5:36:34PM ABUTTING THE CHANGED ZONING TO COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:36:37PM AND THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON FREMONT.
5:36:39PM THAT IS THAT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS IN THE RM 24
5:36:42PM ZONING DISTRICT THAT I POINTED OUT WEST OF FREMONT AVENUE.
5:36:45PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ALONG WEST NORTH A AT THE PARKING LOTS
5:36:49PM THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.
5:36:50PM AND LASTLY, THIS IS LOOKING BACK EAST, KIND OF GIVING YOU AN
5:36:55PM ENTIRE VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG WEST NORTH A STREET.
5:36:58PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
5:37:04PM APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE
5:37:06PM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
5:37:08PM DUE TO THE NATURE OF USES EAST AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT
5:37:10PM SITE, THE COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING DISTRICT WILL
5:37:13PM PROVIDE A MORE GRADUAL TRANSITION AND INTENSITY OF USES.
5:37:16PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
5:37:17PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
5:37:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
5:37:20PM JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S EDIFICATION, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT'S
5:37:24PM ALLOWED WITHIN COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICTS.
5:37:27PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ALLOWS A VARIETY OF
5:37:29PM USES.
5:37:30PM I COULD GO THROUGH AND -- I HAVE THE LAND USE CHART IF YOU
5:37:33PM WOULD LIKE ME TO PUT IT UP.
5:37:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST A FEW THINGS.
5:37:37PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: LIKE A CONVENIENCE STORE, NEIGHBORHOOD
5:37:40PM RETAIL, RESTAURANT SERVING THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING
5:37:41PM LIKE THAT, OR SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS A CONVENIENCE STORE,
5:37:45PM SIMILAR TO DUCKWEED THAT WAS APPROVED IN ONE OF THE
5:37:48PM MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
5:37:50PM IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE COMMERCIAL THAT IS LOWER INTENSITY THAT
5:37:53PM IS TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:37:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
5:37:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:37:56PM ANYBODY ELSE?
5:37:56PM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 3?
5:38:01PM YES, SIR.
5:38:02PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:38:04PM >> TYLER HUDSON.
5:38:07PM 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
5:38:08PM QUICK PowerPoint FOR YA.
5:38:11PM SORRY FOR THE DELAY.
5:38:36PM I KNOW EVERY MINUTE COUNTS TONIGHT.
5:38:38PM I THINK WE'RE AWARE OF WHERE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS.
5:38:41PM JUST NORTH OF KENNEDY.
5:38:42PM ONE THING I WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO AT THE OUTSET, MY
5:38:47PM CLIENT OWNS EVERYTHING SOUTH OF THE ALLEY.
5:38:49PM THE RED BOX PARCEL IS ACTUALLY THREE RESIDENTIAL PARCELS
5:38:52PM WITH HOMES ON THEM.
5:38:54PM UNTIL RECENTLY, THEY WERE SORT OF OFF CAMPUS UT FRAT HOUSES.
5:38:59PM THEY ARE CURRENTLY VACANT.
5:39:00PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKED WHAT OUR PLAN WAS FOR THE HOUSES.
5:39:03PM WE DON'T KNOW.
5:39:04PM WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN FOR THOSE.
5:39:05PM SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKED, CAN YOU TAKE THOSE OUT OF THE
5:39:07PM ZONING, LEAVE IT RESIDENTIAL.
5:39:09PM WE HAD NO ISSUE WITH THAT.
5:39:10PM THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION DID INCLUDE THE RED PARCELS.
5:39:13PM IT'S NOW LIMITED TO JUST WHAT IS IN THE GREEN BOX WHICH
5:39:15PM ABUTS THE PROJECT, THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE.
5:39:19PM ZOOMING OUT A LITTLE BIT, KIND OF WALKING THROUGH THIS, THIS
5:39:25PM IS REALLY THE CORRIDOR.
5:39:27PM AT THE TOP AT THE EDGE, SIGNIFICANT MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
5:39:32PM THIS IS IN THE NORTH HYDE PARK PORTION OF WEST TAMPA THAT
5:39:35PM HAS SEEN A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THE LAST FIVE,
5:39:38PM REALLY GOING BACK TEN YEARS.
5:39:39PM IT HASN'T REALLY CAUGHT UP IS THE COMMERCIAL TO SERVE ALL
5:39:44PM THE PEOPLE THAT NOW LIVE HERE.
5:39:45PM THIS FACES THE REAR OF THE WALMART.
5:39:47PM IT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE WILLA'S OVERFLOW PARKING LOT.
5:39:52PM SELF-STORAGE IN THE MIX.
5:39:53PM IT'S LIKE AN ECLECTIC AREA.
5:39:57PM THERE ISN'T A TON OF COMMERCIAL THAT SERVES THE NEIGHBORHOOD
5:40:00PM AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROJECT ATTEMPTS TO CHANGE.
5:40:04PM ZONING CURRENTLY RM 16.
5:40:05PM PRETTY CLEAR WE ARE NOT PROPOSING A PD CANDIDLY FOR SOME OF
5:40:10PM THE REASONS ALLUDED TO IN THE PRIOR HEARING, THEY CAN BE A
5:40:12PM LITTLE INFLEXIBLE AND THE EXACT COMPOSITION OF USES ISN'T
5:40:15PM EXACTLY CLEAR.
5:40:16PM RIGHT NOW IT'S RESIDENTIAL ABUTTING INDUSTRIAL GENERAL,
5:40:19PM WHICH YOU CAN SEE THAT'S SORT OF PERVASIVE TO THE NORTH OF
5:40:22PM HERE.
5:40:23PM I WOULD SAY HAVING RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES RIGHT
5:40:27PM NEXT TO EACH OTHER, THAT'S SORT OF HOW WE GOT ZONING IN THE
5:40:30PM FIRST PLACE.
5:40:31PM CAN BE INCOMPATIBILITIES THERE.
5:40:32PM WE DO THINK COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AFFORDS A NICE BUFFER
5:40:36PM TRANSITION BETWEEN THE INDUSTRIAL NOT CHANGING AND THE
5:40:39PM RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST.
5:40:41PM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD USES PRETTY SIMILAR TO CG.
5:40:44PM I DON'T BELIEVE IT ALLOWS FOR VEHICLE REPAIR.
5:40:46PM IT'S LIGHT.
5:40:47PM OFFICE, RESTAURANT, RETAIL, THINGS LIKE THAT.
5:40:50PM WE'RE PLEASED TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF ALL THE CITY AGENCIES.
5:40:52PM WE DIDN'T GET QUITE ALL THE WAY THERE AT THE PLANNING
5:40:55PM COMMISSION.
5:40:56PM I DON'T WANT TO SWEEP THAT UNDER THE RUG BUT PUT CONTEXT
5:40:59PM WITH IT.
5:41:00PM DON'T SEE A TON OF THE STANDARD REZONINGS.
5:41:02PM YOU GET MOSTLY PDs.
5:41:04PM THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CHART, CONSISTENCY MATRIX.
5:41:07PM UNDER STATE LAW AND THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGS, FUTURE LAND
5:41:10PM USE OF A PARCEL, THE ZONING OF A PARCEL HAS TO BE CONSISTENT
5:41:14PM UPSTREAM WITH WHAT'S IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
5:41:16PM THAT ACT SAYS THIS CAN BE CONSISTENT.
5:41:19PM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE R-35 ZONING DISTRICT OR IN
5:41:21PM THE R-35 FUTURE LAND USE.
5:41:23PM THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
5:41:24PM EMILY ALLUDED TO THIS THAT THE COMP PLAN DOES AFFORD SOME
5:41:28PM STANDARDS TO YOU ALL AND HOW TO THINK ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL
5:41:31PM REZONINGS IN PREDOMINANTLY FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICTS.
5:41:35PM NO INTRUSION INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
5:41:37PM MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS.
5:41:38PM ONE POINT THAT'S IN THE COMP PLAN, I DON'T THINK IN THE
5:41:41PM STAFF REPORT, THEY LIKE TO SEE THAT THERE'S SORT OF AN
5:41:45PM INADEQUATE EXISTING COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD USES.
5:41:48PM THERE'S NO WAY FOR US TO PROVE THAT.
5:41:49PM I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE NEIGHBORS THINK THERE'S INADEQUATE
5:41:52PM COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW.
5:41:53PM THE TWO WE FELL SHORT ON ARE COLLECTOR ROAD ACCESS AND SORT
5:41:56PM OF 50% BLOCK FACE ISSUE.
5:41:59PM PULL UP MORE CONTEXT AROUND THAT.
5:42:00PM THESE ARE PERMIT DRAWINGS.
5:42:03PM THE SINGLE DEVELOPER, SINGLE PROPERTY OWNER OWNS THE
5:42:07PM ASSEMBLAGE OUTLINED IN GREEN.
5:42:09PM BLUE PARCELS, THAT'S REALLY ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
5:42:11PM THE DEVELOPMENT HAS ACCESS TO NORTH A.
5:42:14PM IT HAS ACCESS TO ROME VIA THE ALLEY THAT WE ARE ABSOLUTELY
5:42:17PM PRESERVING, THAT ALLEY IS PRETTY INTEGRAL FROM THE SIDE
5:42:20PM ACCESS STANDPOINT.
5:42:21PM WHAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IS A BUNCH OF CURB CUTS ON ROME
5:42:25PM BECAUSE THE CITY INVESTED IN A BICYCLE TRACK THAT IS RIGHT
5:42:29PM ALONG THE PROJECT DOWN ROME.
5:42:31PM BUT ROME IS NOT QUITE A COLLECTOR.
5:42:33PM I THINK COUNCIL SEES A LOT OF THE ARTERIAL LOCAL,
5:42:38PM COLLECTORS, SOMETIMES MIGHT SEEM A LITTLE MORE ART THAN
5:42:43PM SCIENCE.
5:42:43PM I THINK OUR VIEW ON THIS ONE, IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK,
5:42:46PM QUACKS LIKE A DUCK, ROME IS VERY SIMILAR TO WILLOW, SIMILAR
5:42:51PM TO DAVIS BOULEVARD.
5:42:54PM DAKOTA IS A COLLECTOR AND ROME IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE BUSY
5:42:57PM THAN THAT.
5:42:58PM THIS IS A VERY COLLECTOR-LIKE ROAD.
5:43:01PM F.D.O.T. HAS A PRETTY TECHNICAL DEFINITION.
5:43:05PM COLLECTOR CONNECTS LOCAL ROADS WITH ARTERIALS.
5:43:07PM THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS DOES.
5:43:09PM THERE IS A STOPLIGHT AT ROME BRINGING PEOPLE DOWN TO
5:43:12PM KENNEDY.
5:43:13PM MOST IMPORTANTLY, THOUGH, THE TAMPA MOVES PROJECT, WHICH I
5:43:16PM THINK COUNCIL IS FAMILIAR WITH.
5:43:18PM THERE WILL BE A RECLASSIFICATION OF THE CLASSIFICATION OF
5:43:20PM THESE ROADWAYS.
5:43:21PM ROME IS PROPOSED TO BE A, QUOTE, MAJOR COLLECTOR.
5:43:24PM WHILE NOT TECHNICALLY A COLLECTOR TODAY, SOUNDS LIKE IT IS
5:43:27PM GOING TO BE A COLLECTOR IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
5:43:29PM THE SECOND AREA FALL A LITTLE BIT SHORT ON IS THE BLOCK
5:43:33PM AVERAGING.
5:43:34PM YOU ALL TYPICALLY SEE BLOCK AVERAGING IN THE CONTEXT OF
5:43:37PM SETBACKS.
5:43:38PM SAW ONE LAST WEEK WHERE IT'S QUANTITATIVE.
5:43:41PM ADD IT ALL UP, DIVIDE BY THE NUMBER AND YOU GET AN AVERAGE.
5:43:44PM THE EXPECTATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THAT 50% OF THE
5:43:48PM BLOCK SHOULD ALREADY BE COMMERCIAL.
5:43:49PM I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF ISSUES WITH APPLYING THIS
5:43:52PM STRICTLY.
5:43:52PM FIRST, IT CREATES SORT OF AN ARTIFICIAL CEILING ON YOUR
5:43:56PM ABILITY TO ASK FOR A REZONING.
5:43:59PM NOT ALREADY 50%, YOU ARE SORT OF STUCK.
5:44:01PM THE SECOND ISSUE WITH THAT, IT DOES IGNORE THE OPPOSITE SIDE
5:44:06PM OF THE STREET.
5:44:06PM I THINK FOLKS TYPICALLY DO EXPERIENCE A BLOCK, WITH A LITTLE
5:44:09PM BIT OF WHAT'S ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET.
5:44:12PM WHAT'S OPPOSITE OF THESE PARCELS WE'RE ASKING YOU TO REZONE
5:44:14PM IS INDUSTRIAL SURFACE PARKING COMMERCIAL.
5:44:16PM IT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL.
5:44:17PM THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE OF A LANGUAGE GAME, BUT IT
5:44:23PM IGNORES THE EFFECT OF THE REZONING.
5:44:26PM RIGHT NOW IT SAYS IT WANTS TO SEE 50% OR MORE COMMERCIAL.
5:44:29PM THAT'S SORT OF THE EXPECTATION.
5:44:30PM THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS WOULD DO IF YOU APPROVED IT.
5:44:33PM IT WOULD BE NORTH OF 80% COMMERCIAL.
5:44:35PM AGAIN, THESE ARE A COUPLE OF AREAS OF TECHNICAL
5:44:40PM SHORTCOMINGS, WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEES, BUT I THINK
5:44:43PM IT'S STILL CONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION AND SPIRIT OF THE
5:44:45PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHEN LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL INFILL
5:44:47PM DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREAS THAT HAVE A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY
5:44:50PM RESIDENTIAL, BUT THAT HAS NOT HAD THE CATCH-UP OF RETAIL
5:44:55PM COMMERCIAL USES.
5:44:56PM WE TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT THIS PROJECT FOR
5:44:58PM PROBABLY TWO OR THREE YEARS.
5:45:00PM TAKEN A WHILE TO ASSEMBLE ALL THE PIECES OF IT.
5:45:03PM NORTH HYDE PARK ALLIANCE, NORTH HYDE PARK CIVIC ASSOCIATION,
5:45:07PM LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES, I THINK NEIGHBORS WRITTEN IN.
5:45:10PM WE'RE NOT AWARE OF OPPOSITION.
5:45:12PM WE TALKED TO THE FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD A LONG TIME ABOUT
5:45:14PM THE PROJECT.
5:45:15PM I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM.
5:45:16PM ALEX WAS OUT WITH THEM LAST WEEK TALKING ABOUT TREES FOR THE
5:45:20PM LITTLE POCKET PARK.
5:45:23PM WE HAVE APPLIED FOR.
5:45:24PM THAT'S NOT HYPOTHETICAL.
5:45:26PM THAT'S REAL.
5:45:27PM WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
5:45:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
5:45:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT
5:45:34PM THE OVERALL PROJECT THAT YOU JUST SHOWED US, BUT THAT IS A
5:45:38PM LOT OF PARKING AND THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
5:45:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
5:45:43PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
5:45:46PM NUMBER 3?
5:45:47PM I SEE SOMEBODY COMING UP.
5:45:52PM NO?
5:45:52PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
5:45:55PM >> NO.
5:45:55PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, COUNCIL.
5:45:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
5:45:58PM CLENDENIN, SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
5:46:00PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:46:00PM AYE.
5:46:02PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 3?
5:46:05PM THERE IS A SUBSTITUTE ORDINANCE.
5:46:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER REZ-23-68, SUBSTITUTE
5:46:14PM ORDINANCE.
5:46:14PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
5:46:16PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
5:46:19PM 1723, 1725, 1729, 1733 AND 1735 WEST NORTH A STREET IN THE
5:46:28PM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
5:46:31PM SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16
5:46:34PM (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY) TO CN (COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD);
5:46:38PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
5:46:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:46:41PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
5:46:43PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
5:46:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
5:46:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
5:46:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
5:46:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:46:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
5:46:55PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
5:46:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
5:46:57PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
5:47:00PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 7, 2024,
5:47:06PM AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA,
5:47:11PM FLORIDA, 33602.
5:47:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT WHAT TIME?
5:47:17PM >>THE CLERK: AT 9:30 A.M.
5:47:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
5:47:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, MS. DOCK, WHAT IS THE
5:47:23PM CONCLUSION ON ITEM 2?
5:47:25PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
5:47:26PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:47:28PM I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE
5:47:32PM REQUEST BEFORE YOU NOW.
5:47:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAS THE PRESENTATION COMPLETE?
5:47:35PM DOES HE UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING GOING ON?
5:47:38PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THE PRESENTATION IS COMPLETE.
5:47:40PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:47:41PM I WOULD LIKE TO PUT ON THE RECORD THE REQUEST AGAIN.
5:47:43PM SO THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM CI, COMMERCIAL
5:47:46PM INTENSIVE, AND RM-24, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, TO PD PLANNED
5:47:51PM DEVELOPMENT, FOR THE USES OF VEHICLE REPAIR MAJOR, RETAIL
5:47:56PM SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS AND OPEN STORAGE, AND THE APPLICANT
5:47:59PM CAN COME UP AND CONFIRM.
5:48:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APPLICANT, SIR, DO YOU CONCUR WITH WHAT
5:48:06PM WAS SAID?
5:48:07PM DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
5:48:09PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN.
5:48:12PM >> -- STATE YOUR NAME.
5:48:14PM WHAT IS YOUR NAME.
5:48:15PM >> MY NAME IS RICH MARCEAU.
5:48:17PM WE WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH, GO AS PLANNED.
5:48:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
5:48:30PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
5:48:33PM NUMBER 2?
5:48:34PM I SEE NO ONE.
5:48:37PM WE HAVE NOBODY REGISTERED.
5:48:39PM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
5:48:40PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
5:48:43PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
5:48:45PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:48:45PM AYE.
5:48:46PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER 2?
5:48:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A COMMENT, FIRST.
5:48:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
5:48:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE DENIED BECAUSE OF
5:48:57PM THE RM 24 THAT GOES INTO THAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT
5:49:01PM ALREADY EXISTS.
5:49:03PM I'M CONCERNED ABOUT -- RIGHT NOW IT'S A VERY -- I WANT TO
5:49:12PM SAY DOCILE USE, BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT COULD BE THERE, I THINK
5:49:17PM THAT 15-FOOT BUFFER INTO THIS RESIDENTIAL AREA IS JUST
5:49:21PM QUITE, I'LL BE HONEST, I THINK IT'S TOO MUCH.
5:49:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:49:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CONCUR.
5:49:28PM I THINK, AGAIN, YOU'RE PENETRATING, THERE IS A REALLY CLEAR
5:49:32PM LINE ALONG HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE WHERE THE ZONING CHANGE IS.
5:49:38PM WE HAVE THE BLOCK FRONTAGE THAT FACES HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE,
5:49:41PM WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE DENSITY AND DEVELOPMENT
5:49:45PM BECAUSE IT IS A MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR.
5:49:47PM BUT WHEN YOU PENETRATE WITH THIS RELATIVELY INTENSE,
5:49:52PM POTENTIALLY INTENSE AND NOISY BUSINESS INTO AN ESTABLISHED
5:49:56PM RESIDENTIAL ZONED AREA AND ALREADY CONSTRUCTED AND BUILT, I
5:49:59PM THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY OUTSIDE OF -- WE HAVE CERTAIN
5:50:05PM REQUIREMENTS FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT, CODE CRITERIA.
5:50:07PM AND ONE OF THE KEY CRITERIA IS THE IMPACT ON SURROUNDING
5:50:12PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
5:50:12PM THAT'S ACTUALLY NUMBER ONE IN THE CRITERIA.
5:50:15PM WE AS A COUNCIL WHEN WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS, WE HAVE TO
5:50:18PM TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE IMPACT OF A PD ON THOSE EXISTING
5:50:21PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
5:50:22PM I FEEL GRAVELY CONCERNED THAT WE -- REALLY PENETRATE A
5:50:30PM COMMERCIAL USE WITH ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH
5:50:33PM THAT COMMERCIAL USE INTO THOSE FOLKS' BACKYARD.
5:50:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
5:50:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.
5:50:43PM I MOVE TO DENY REZ-23-101 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4170
5:50:50PM EAST HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE APPLICANT
5:50:54PM TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT AND
5:50:57PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE -- THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AS
5:51:00PM CONDITIONED AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH
5:51:03PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE AND THE APPLICANT'S
5:51:06PM FAILURE TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF WITH RESPECT TO THE
5:51:09PM REQUESTED WAIVER.
5:51:11PM I ALSO ADOPT THE FINDINGS AND REASONINGS OF THE CITY STAFF
5:51:15PM REPORT, AND I WILL CITE THE FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH LAND
5:51:18PM DEVELOPMENT CODE SECTION 27-136 THAT ALTHOUGH THIS SEGMENT
5:51:23PM OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE CONTAINS PREDOMINANTLY COMMERCIAL
5:51:26PM USES COMPRISED OF VEHICLE SALES, REPAIR, AND OPEN STORAGE,
5:51:30PM THE ENCROACHMENT INTO THE RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH IS
5:51:33PM NOT APPROPRIATE.
5:51:34PM ACCORDINGLY, THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION
5:51:38PM AND NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT.
5:51:42PM >> WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:51:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, THERE IS A SECOND.
5:51:48PM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. SHELBY.
5:51:52PM I'M PREPARED TO VOTE FOR THE DENIAL.
5:51:56PM I JUST HAVE A CONCERN WITH THE APPLICANTS WHO WERE OUTSIDE
5:52:03PM AND SPEAKING AND THEN IT WAS SAID THEY WANT TO GO FORWARD.
5:52:08PM THEY ARE NOT REPRESENTED.
5:52:09PM ARE THEY FULLY AWARE AND APPRECIATIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT'S
5:52:13PM HAPPENING AND EQUIPPED WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE?
5:52:16PM MR. SHELBY, ARE THERE ANY ISSUES IN THERE?
5:52:19PM AGAIN, I'M PREPARED TO VOTE FOR THIS.
5:52:21PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE IN ALL FAIRNESS TO THE APPLICANTS.
5:52:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. VIERA, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
5:52:27PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
5:52:30PM QUITE FRANKLY, EVERY OPPORTUNITY WAS AFFORDED TO THE
5:52:34PM APPLICANT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE.
5:52:38PM THE OPTION OF A CONTINUANCE BEFORE STEPPING OUT WAS OFFERED
5:52:42PM AS AN OPTION.
5:52:44PM THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE CAME UP AND ON THE RECORD
5:52:47PM EXPLAINED TO COUNCIL THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD AND WISH TO GO
5:52:51PM FORWARD.
5:52:51PM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AFTER THEIR
5:52:54PM DECISION HAS BEEN MADE, I THINK THE BEST THING FOR US TO DO
5:52:58PM THEN IS TO RESPECT THAT DECISION.
5:53:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
5:53:02PM THE CLOSED CAPTIONING.
5:53:03PM WHO IS THAT FOR?
5:53:04PM IN OTHER WORDS -- AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO IDENTIFY
5:53:06PM THEMSELVES, WAS IT FOR THESE PARTIES?
5:53:08PM WAS IT FOR THIS CASE?
5:53:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT
5:53:14PM THAT, THEN WHAT WE COULD DO IS -- THE SHORT ANSWER IS MY
5:53:19PM UNDERSTANDING IS WE WERE CONTACTED, THE CITY COUNCIL OFFICES
5:53:22PM WERE CONTACTED BY LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION WHICH MADE
5:53:26PM THESE ACCOMMODATIONS IN ANTICIPATION OF THE HEARING TONIGHT.
5:53:30PM IF YOU WANT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE CAN, IF THE COUNCIL
5:53:32PM NEEDS TO HAVE THAT ON THE RECORD.
5:53:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: MY APOLOGIES.
5:53:36PM I SHOULD HAVE MADE THIS WHILE IT WAS OPEN.
5:53:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHY DON'T WE REOPEN FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE
5:53:41PM DISCUSSION.
5:53:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:53:44PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
5:53:45PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:53:46PM AYE.
5:53:46PM THE HEARING IS REOPENED.
5:53:47PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
5:53:49PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
5:53:52PM JUST FOR THE RECORD, COUNCIL, IT WAS STAFF CONTACTED THE ADA
5:53:58PM COORDINATOR.
5:53:58PM THE ADA COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY ARRANGED FOR THE CAPTIONING
5:54:03PM SERVICES FOR THE APPLICANT.
5:54:04PM SO IT WAS AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT THAT THAT
5:54:09PM ASSISTANCE WAS NEEDED.
5:54:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:54:12PM IS THAT SATISFACTORY?
5:54:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: AND SHOULD WE AFFORD THE APPLICANT ANY FINAL
5:54:21PM WORDS BEFORE WE CLOSE?
5:54:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MOTION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE WITH A
5:54:25PM SECOND.
5:54:26PM AND THERE WAS NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
5:54:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: STILL, WE ALWAYS ALLOW APPLICANTS, EVEN IF
5:54:32PM THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT, TO SAY ANYTHING FURTHER.
5:54:35PM THAT'S HAPPENED NUMEROUS TIMES BEFORE.
5:54:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU WANT TO HAVE THE APPLICANT HIMSELF
5:54:39PM COME UP FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, MR. VIERA?
5:54:42PM THE HEARING IS OPEN.
5:54:45PM WE MIGHT AS WELL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
5:54:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
5:54:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY UNDERSTANDING, SIR, AGAIN, YOUR NAME FOR
5:54:57PM THE RECORD.
5:54:58PM I'M SORRY.
5:54:59PM YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
5:55:00PM YOUR NAME.
5:55:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS YOUR NAME, SIR?
5:55:06PM >> RICHARD MARCEAU.
5:55:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID I PRONOUNCE THAT CORRECTLY?
5:55:11PM >> YEAH.
5:55:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU SEE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING HERE.
5:55:14PM IS THAT CORRECT?
5:55:16PM >> YEAH.
5:55:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
5:55:18PM THE GENTLEMAN WHO YOU REPRESENT, HIS NAME IS?
5:55:23PM >> DANIEL TRUONG.
5:55:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DANIEL.
5:55:28PM AND MR. TRUONG, AM I PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME CORRECTLY?
5:55:32PM >> YES, SIR, THAT'S FINE.
5:55:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE YOU SEEN THE CLOSED CAPTIONING DURING
5:55:36PM THE PROCESS?
5:55:36PM HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO FOLLOW WHAT'S BEEN SAID?
5:55:39PM >> YEAH, I MEAN, WE DISCUSSED ABOUT ALREADY.
5:55:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
5:55:44PM HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS UP UNTIL THIS
5:55:47PM POINT?
5:55:48PM >> YES, SIR.
5:55:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH
5:55:51PM MS. DOCK OUTSIDE DURING THE BREAK THAT WAS AFFORDED TO YOU
5:55:55PM AND SHE WHILE WE CONTINUED WITH TONIGHT'S MEETING?
5:56:00PM >> YES, SIR.
5:56:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AFTER THAT, YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO
5:56:03PM DISCUSS THIS WITH YOUR APPLICANT, YOUR REPRESENTATIVE?
5:56:06PM >> YES.
5:56:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
5:56:08PM AND YOUR DECISION IS, AGAIN, WHAT?
5:56:13PM >> LEAVE FOR RIGHT NOW AND THEN MOVING ON WITH THAT FOR
5:56:16PM RIGHT NOW.
5:56:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU'RE ASKING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS
5:56:18PM HEARING.
5:56:19PM >> CORRECT.
5:56:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
5:56:21PM I HAVE NO FURTHER INQUIRY.
5:56:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: I'LL SECOND THAT.
5:56:24PM AGAIN, BEFORE, COUNCIL, AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES, I JUST WANTED
5:56:27PM TO MAKE SURE BEFORE GOING FORWARD.
5:56:30PM >> NO PROBLEM.
5:56:31PM APPRECIATE THAT.
5:56:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL
5:56:34PM MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:56:36PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
5:56:37PM ALL IN FAVOR?
5:56:38PM THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
5:56:39PM THE MOTION WAS MADE FOR DENIAL BY COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
5:56:43PM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
5:56:47PM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
5:56:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
5:56:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
5:56:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
5:56:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
5:56:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
5:56:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
5:56:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
5:57:02PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
5:57:05PM SECOND READING AND --
5:57:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
5:57:09PM IT WAS A MOTION OF DENIAL.
5:57:10PM >>THE CLERK: MOTION TO DENY CARRIED WITH MANISCALCO VOTING
5:57:13PM NO.
5:57:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
5:57:16PM YES, MR. SHELBY.
5:57:18PM DO WE NEED TO TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS?
5:57:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN, PLEASE.
5:57:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S TAKE A FIVE-MINUTE RECESS SO WE
5:57:25PM CAN DISMANTLE THE SYSTEM.
5:57:27PM WE'RE IN RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
5:57:29PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
5:57:30PM [RECESS]
6:08:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
6:08:01PM WELCOME BACK.
6:08:02PM LET'S GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
6:08:05PM >> CARLSON?
6:08:05PM HURTAK?
6:08:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
6:08:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
6:08:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
6:08:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
6:08:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
6:08:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
6:08:15PM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
6:08:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:08:17PM I SAW A FEW PEOPLE COME IN AFTER WE SWORE IN FOLKS THAT WANT
6:08:20PM TO SPEAK SO IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE CASES AND
6:08:24PM YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
6:08:27PM STAND UP, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND LET US SWEAR YOU IN.
6:08:30PM I SAW A FEW NEW FACES.
6:08:44PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE
6:08:46PM ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
6:08:49PM >> YES.
6:08:49PM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
6:08:50PM YOU MAY BE SEATED.
6:08:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
6:08:52PM WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER 4.
6:08:54PM YES, SIR.
6:08:55PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
6:08:56PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 IS REZ 23-93, A REQUEST TO REZONE 3203
6:09:02PM WEST SAINT JOHN STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 50 AND
6:09:06PM COMMERCIAL GENERAL TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR A CEMETERY.
6:09:13PM I'LL TURN IT OVER TO EMILY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
6:09:29PM >>EMILY PHELAN: CAN YOU SEE THE SCREEN?
6:09:30PM EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
6:09:34PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA
6:09:37PM PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE MacFARLANE PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:09:40PM THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA,
6:09:43PM SPECIFICALLY EVACUATION ZONE E.
6:09:46PM THERE IS AN EXISTING CEMETERY TO THE NORTH AND SOME
6:09:49PM COMMERCIAL USES ALONG NORTH MacDILL AVENUE, AND THEN
6:09:57PM SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST OF
6:09:59PM THE SITE.
6:10:00PM THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
6:10:04PM IT'S COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
6:10:06PM AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS TO THE NORTH AS WELL AS TO THE EAST
6:10:09PM ALONG MacDILL.
6:10:10PM AND TO THE SOUTH AND WEST IS THE RESIDENTIAL 10 DESIGNATION,
6:10:15PM AND THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL 20 DESIGNATION.
6:10:17PM THE CC 35 DESIGNATION ALLOWS FOR THE CONSIDERATION OF
6:10:22PM INTENSIVE AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL USES.
6:10:24PM THE CEMETERY CAN BE CONSIDERED UNDER THIS DESIGNATION.
6:10:27PM THE SITE IS ADJACENT TO EXISTING CEMETERY AND THERE IS A
6:10:31PM DIVERSE RANGE OF USES WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE SUBJECT
6:10:33PM SITE.
6:10:34PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REQUIRES COMMERCIAL USES TO BE
6:10:37PM APPROPRIATELY BUFFERED FROM RESIDENTIAL USES.
6:10:39PM THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING SETBACKS ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
6:10:42PM ENSURING THE DEVELOPMENT IS APPROPRIATELY SCREENED FROM THE
6:10:44PM ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL USES.
6:10:45PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROMOTES PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND
6:10:49PM ENCOURAGES COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT ENHANCES THE CITY OF
6:10:52PM TAMPA'S CHARACTER AND AMBIENCE.
6:10:54PM THE SITE IS WITHIN A MIXED USE CORRIDOR WHICH ENCOURAGES
6:10:57PM PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY.
6:10:59PM THE APPLICANT HAS A NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT PEDESTRIAN
6:11:03PM CONNECTIVITY WILL BE PROVIDED.
6:11:04PM IN CONCLUSION, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER
6:11:08PM OF THE SURROUNDING AREA AND THE LONG-RANGE DEVELOPMENT
6:11:11PM PATTERN ENCOURAGED UNDER THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION,
6:11:13PM AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
6:11:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:11:16PM ANY QUESTIONS?
6:11:16PM NO.
6:11:17PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:11:17PM YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
6:11:20PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
6:11:22PM WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE AERIAL ZONING MAP.
6:11:25PM THE SUBJECT SITE HERE OUTLINED IN RED.
6:11:36PM IT'S ALL ON WEST SAINT JOHN STREET AND NORTH MATANZAS
6:11:40PM AVENUE.
6:11:40PM AS EMILY STATED BEFORE, THERE IS THE CEMETERY NORTH OF THE
6:11:43PM SITE, MARTI-COLON.
6:11:45PM ALONG COLUMBUS DRIVE, YOU HAVE A MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES.
6:11:50PM THEN AS YOU GO DOWN SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE, YOU HAVE SOME
6:11:51PM COMMERCIAL USES AND RESIDENTIAL OFFICE USE UNTIL AROUND WEST
6:11:54PM SAINT JOHN STREET AND THEN IT TRANSITIONS INTO RESIDENTIAL
6:11:57PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED WITH THE RS 50 ZONING DISTRICT.
6:11:59PM TO THE WEST YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED WITH
6:12:02PM THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ZONING DISTRICT.
6:12:04PM AND THEN TO THE NORTH, AS I MENTIONED, YOU DO HAVE THE
6:12:07PM CEMETERY.
6:12:07PM NEXT WE'LL GO TO THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
6:12:14PM SO BECAUSE IT IS A CEMETERY, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, NO
6:12:17PM BUILDINGS ARE PROPOSED ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
6:12:19PM HOWEVER, MAUSOLEUMS CAN BE CONSTRUCTED IF THE REZONING IS
6:12:24PM APPROVED.
6:12:24PM ACCESS TO THE SITE WILL BE PROVIDED FROM HERE ON WEST SAINT
6:12:28PM JOHN.
6:12:30PM ONE PARKING SPACE IS REQUIRED PER EMPLOYEE.
6:12:32PM INTENDED TO BE NO EMPLOYEES.
6:12:34PM ZERO PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED.
6:12:36PM ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED SETBACKS FOR
6:12:40PM INTERMENTS AT ZERO ON ALL SIDES WHICH REQUIRES A WAIVER, BUT
6:12:44PM THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE MAUSOLEUMS.
6:12:47PM SO YOU WOULD NOT HAVE MAUSOLEUMS WITH ZERO SETBACK LINE.
6:12:50PM NO ELEVATIONS BECAUSE NO BUILDINGS ARE PROPOSED SINCE THIS
6:12:52PM IS A CEMETERY.
6:12:53PM I DO HAVE PICTURES THAT I CAN SHOW YOU.
6:12:54PM SO THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON WEST SAINT JOHN STREET.
6:13:06PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST.
6:13:09PM THIS IS MATANZAS HERE.
6:13:11PM THIS IS WEST SAINT JOHN.
6:13:12PM YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE SINGLE-FAMILY BLOCK-STYLE HOMES.
6:13:16PM HERE IS A BETTER PICTURE OF THE INTERSECTION.
6:13:18PM THE CEMETERY WOULD BE BACK BEHIND WHERE THE STOP SIGN IS.
6:13:21PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE CEMETERY.
6:13:25PM SO THIS IS DIRECTLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MATANZAS AVENUE.
6:13:28PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST.
6:13:31PM THIS IS JUST NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION OF MATANZAS AND SAINT
6:13:34PM JOHN.
6:13:35PM YOU CAN SEE THE VACANT PARCEL HERE THAT WOULD BE THE
6:13:38PM CEMETERY.
6:13:39PM MARTI-COLON IN THE DISTANCE AND BORDER WALL WHERE SOUTH
6:13:43PM MacDILL AND THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES ARE.
6:13:45PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ALONG MATANZAS JUST PAST THE
6:13:50PM INTERSECTION.
6:13:50PM YOU CAN SEE THE VACANT PARCEL.
6:13:52PM AND THEN THE CEMETERY, AGAIN, THERE.
6:13:53PM HERE IS THE SITE PLAN FOR YOU AGAIN.
6:14:02PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
6:14:05PM APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE
6:14:08PM LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE.
6:14:09PM SEE THE FINDINGS FROM TRANSPORTATION RELATED TO THE WAIVER
6:14:12PM REQUESTING ACCESS TO THE LOCAL ROAD.
6:14:14PM NOTWITHSTANDING STAFF'S FINDING OF INCONSISTENCY, IF COUNCIL
6:14:18PM APPROVES THE APPLICATION, MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN AS
6:14:20PM SHOWN ON THE SUBMITTED REVISION SHEET MUST BE COMPLETED
6:14:23PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
6:14:24PM THESE REVISIONS WILL NOT RESOLVE THE ISSUE OF
6:14:26PM TRANSPORTATION'S INCONSISTENCY FINDINGS.
6:14:28PM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
6:14:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
6:14:31PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:14:34PM YES, SIR.
6:14:38PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
6:14:40PM >> GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MY NAME IS
6:14:42PM MARK BENTLEY, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE AND I'VE BEEN SWORN.
6:14:45PM OUR CLIENT IS SEEKING TO ESTABLISH A JEWISH CEMETERY AT THE
6:14:47PM SUBJECT SITE WHICH IS ALMOST ONE ACRE IN SIZE.
6:14:50PM I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE SUBJECT SITE AND OUR CLIENT
6:14:54PM ABSOLUTELY HAS NO RELATIONSHIP, LEGAL FROM A LAND USE
6:14:57PM STANDPOINT WITH REGARD TO THE PROPERTIES LOCATED DIRECTLY TO
6:14:59PM THE NORTH.
6:15:00PM THE ONLY COMMONALITY BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTIES IS THE
6:15:03PM BOUNDARY, AND THOSE PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
6:15:08PM THE CLIENT IS DOWN ZONING THE PROPERTY AND GOING THROUGH
6:15:10PM THIS PROCESS THROUGH THE PD PROCESS RELINQUISHING ALL
6:15:14PM DEVELOPMENT ENTITLEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY BUT FOR THE ABILITY
6:15:16PM TO OBTAIN THIS CEMETERY USE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
6:15:22PM THE QUESTION IS, WHY DOING THIS THROUGH A PD?
6:15:24PM YOU HEARD STAFF INDICATE THAT THE PROPERTY IS SPLIT ZONED.
6:15:27PM PART OF THE PROPERTY IS RS 50 AND PART OF IT IS CG.
6:15:31PM RS 50 HAS STANDARDS, SPECIAL USE STANDARDS FOR A CEMETERY
6:15:35PM VERSUS CG, WHICH DOES NOT.
6:15:38PM TO ELIMINATE THE INCONSISTENCY WE'RE PURSUING THE PD.
6:15:46PM MOST IMPORTANT REASON PURSUING THE PD, THERE WAS CONCERN IN
6:15:49PM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE
6:15:51PM PROPERTY.
6:15:51PM RIGHT NOW YOU COULD DEVELOP UNDER CG OR THE RS 50, AND THAT
6:15:56PM WOULD INCLUDE DIRECT ACCESS EITHER ON MATANZAS AND/OR SAINT
6:16:02PM JOHN THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:16:03PM THAT IS A GIVEN AND CAN CONFIRM WITH THE TRANSPORTATION
6:16:06PM PLANNER WHO IS IN ATTENDANCE TONIGHT.
6:16:08PM IF WE REZONE A PD, WE CAN ISOLATE OR SINGLE OUT THE ONE USE,
6:16:13PM WHICH WOULD BE A CEMETERY, WHICH IS VERY INNOCUOUS USE.
6:16:18PM TRANSPORTATION PLANNER TALK ON THE WHOLE SPECTRUM OF TRAFFIC
6:16:21PM IMPACTS FOR DIFFERENT USES, THAT'S ON THE EXTREME LOW END.
6:16:25PM ALSO BEAR IN MIND THAT COMMITTING TO A PD, OUR CLIENT, AS I
6:16:32PM MENTIONED, RELINQUISHING ALL DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS TO SECURE
6:16:35PM THE CEMETERY.
6:16:36PM A PD LIMITING THE USE ELIMINATES THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF
6:16:39PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES.
6:16:42PM NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED CEMETERY USE WAS NOT BEING -- WAS
6:16:49PM BEING PROPOSED, IF IT WAS NOT BEING PROPOSED, PAGE 3 OF YOUR
6:16:53PM STAFF REPORT, AND PAGE 2 OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT,
6:16:56PM THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF CC 35 WOULD ALLOW IN THE
6:17:00PM ALTERNATIVE EITHER 32 DWELLING UNITS FOR 40,500 SQUARE FEET
6:17:06PM OF RETAIL AND/OR OFFICE DEVELOPMENT.
6:17:08PM SO THE OBVIOUS PREFERRED CHOICE OF LAND USE FOR NOT ONLY THE
6:17:11PM CLIENT, BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A CEMETERY AND WAY TO ENSURE
6:17:15PM THAT THE USE IS ONLY FOR A CEMETERY IS THROUGH THE PD
6:17:18PM PROCESS.
6:17:18PM I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS SUGGESTION
6:17:21PM THAT WE COULD ACCESS THROUGH MARTI-COLON CEMETERY WHICH WAS
6:17:26PM ESTABLISHED IN 1895 ROUGHLY, WHEN THERE WERE NO TECHNICAL
6:17:30PM STANDARDS OR THERE WAS NO ZONING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
6:17:32PM AS MENTIONED, THE PROPERTY ABUTS TWO PUBLIC ROADS.
6:17:36PM THE CLIENT UNDER THE LAW IS ENTITLED TO ACCESS TO A PUBLIC
6:17:40PM ROAD, THAT WOULD BE EITHER MATANZAS OR SAINT JOHN.
6:17:42PM IF THEY DEVELOP UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING FOR SINGLE-FAMILY
6:17:45PM OR COMMERCIAL, ACCESS TO ONE OR BOTH ROADS WOULD BE
6:17:49PM GUARANTEED.
6:17:50PM THERE'S NO DENYING THAT.
6:17:51PM THEY HAVE TO GET LEGAL ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, CEMETERY TO
6:17:55PM DEVELOP THE PROPERTY UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING.
6:17:57PM THE CITY COULD NOT FORCE A RETAIL DEVELOPMENT OR MEDICAL
6:18:00PM OFFICE TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY THROUGH A PATH THROUGH
6:18:02PM CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH.
6:18:04PM THE CITY HAS NO LEGAL AUTHORITY TO FORCE ANY USE, INCLUDING
6:18:07PM THE PROPOSED CEMETERY, TO UTILIZE THE SUBSTANDARD ON SAFE
6:18:11PM ACCESS THROUGH ANOTHER PROPERTY AS A CONDITION OF ZONING
6:18:14PM APPROVAL.
6:18:15PM THAT'S AN IMPROPER USE OF THE POLICE POWER.
6:18:17PM MARTI-COLON CEMETERY, AS I MENTIONED, ESTABLISHED IN ROUGHLY
6:18:23PM 1890, 95, WHEN THERE WERE NO MINIMUM STANDARDS, WHICH
6:18:26PM STANDARDS ARE NOT WAIVABLE BY THE CITY.
6:18:28PM BUT NOW, AS DETERMINED BY YOUR TRANSPORTATION STAFF, ANY
6:18:31PM INTERNAL ROAD SERVING OUR CLIENT'S USE MUST MEET CITY
6:18:34PM STANDARDS INCLUDING LIFE SAFETY, DRAINAGE, ROAD CONSTRUCTION
6:18:37PM MATERIALS, AND MUST BE A MINIMUM OF 20 FEET IN WIDTH.
6:18:40PM SO USING THE MARTI-COLON CEMETERY PATH IS NOT LEGAL NOR IS
6:18:45PM IT SAFE.
6:18:46PM I SHOULD HAVE BROUGHT UP THE PowerPoint.
6:18:48PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TOO LATE TO DO THAT.
6:18:50PM >> CCTV.
6:18:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE YOU GO.
6:18:53PM WE NEED IT ON OUR SCREENS HERE.
6:18:55PM THERE YOU GO.
6:18:56PM >> I JUST MENTIONED, THE CITY HAS, I'LL CALL IT, A PATH THAT
6:19:00PM TERMINATES AT OUR NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
6:19:02PM AND WE'RE LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE CITY'S PATH NORTH TOWARD
6:19:06PM COLUMBUS.
6:19:07PM YOU CAN SEE THE TRUCK HERE, AND THIS IS BY NO MEANS A ROAD,
6:19:12PM BUT WE CALL IT A PATH.
6:19:13PM ANY SUGGESTION THAT WE GO THROUGH THIS PROPERTY, IT'S REALLY
6:19:19PM NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO DO THAT.
6:19:22PM PLUS, ALSO, BEAR IN MIND THAT NOT ONLY IS IT UNSAFE OR NOT
6:19:29PM LEGAL, THERE ARE NO CROSS EASEMENT AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY
6:19:33PM TO UTILIZE THEIR PROPERTY.
6:19:34PM THESE ARE STAND-ALONE PROPERTIES.
6:19:35PM LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY COMMONALITY BETWEEN THE TWO HAPPENS TO
6:19:39PM BE THE BOUNDARY AND HAPPENS TO BE THE USE.
6:19:41PM SO THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO OUR
6:19:45PM FIRM'S DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, RYAN MANASSE.
6:19:48PM >> THANK YOU, MARK.
6:19:49PM RYAN MANASSE.
6:19:50PM THANK YOU.
6:19:50PM I'VE BEEN SWORN.
6:19:51PM I'M GOING THROUGH THE SLIDE DECK, AND I'LL TRY NOT TO BE
6:19:54PM REDUNDANT.
6:19:55PM THE SITE AERIAL SHOWS 40,389 SQUARE FEET FOR THE SUBJECT
6:19:58PM SITE.
6:19:58PM I KNOW STAFF ALREADY WENT THROUGH THIS.
6:20:01PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE ITSELF.
6:20:02PM ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN, SO YOU CAN SEE WE'RE
6:20:04PM FACING EAST AND THE CEMETERY USE DOES ABUT OUR PROPERTY AS
6:20:08PM WELL TO THE NORTH AS INDICATED BY STAFF.
6:20:11PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS ON
6:20:14PM THE SOUTH SOUTHERN BOUNDARY IS THE FENCE LINE.
6:20:16PM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ACCESS GATE.
6:20:19PM SOMETHING TO POINT OUT ABOUT THIS ACCESS GATE TO OUR
6:20:21PM SOUTHERN PARCEL IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE SINCE
6:20:24PM AT LEAST 2007, IF NOT EARLIER.
6:20:26PM SO THAT IS ALSO WHERE WE'RE INTENDING OUR PROPOSED
6:20:30PM INGRESS/EGRESS POINT FOR THE PROPOSED CEMETERY.
6:20:33PM AS MARK MENTIONED, IT IS SPLIT ZONED RS 50 AND CG.
6:20:37PM AND THAT MAKES IT UNIQUE BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE RS 50 ZONING
6:20:41PM DISTRICT REQUIRES THAT SPECIAL USE 1 CRITERIA FOR THE
6:20:44PM SPECIFIC CRITERIA FOR A CEMETERY USE, WHEREAS THE CG ZONING
6:20:49PM DISTRICT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
6:20:50PM NOW, WE ARE REQUESTING WAIVERS FROM THAT SECTION 27-132
6:20:57PM WHICH IS THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA AND IT IS FOR THAT
6:20:59PM CEMETERY USE, AGAIN SPECIFICALLY FOR RS 50 PORTION OF THE
6:21:02PM PROPERTY.
6:21:02PM WE DON'T BELIEVE THE LDC OR THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
6:21:05PM CONTEMPLATED THE SMALL-SCALE CEMETERIES WHEN THIS CRITERIA
6:21:08PM WAS IN PLACE REGARDING THE 30-FOOT SETBACK.
6:21:11PM SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUESTING THE ZERO BECAUSE IT'S
6:21:14PM OBVIOUSLY A QUITE INTRUSIVE SETBACK, AND THAT'S SPECIFIC TO
6:21:17PM INTERMENT, AS STAFF POINTED OUT AS WELL.
6:21:19PM REGARDING THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE AND THE SPECIAL USE CRITERIA,
6:21:22PM AGAIN, WE DON'T THINK IT WAS CONTEMPLATED THAT THE CG OR THE
6:21:26PM SPLIT ZONING DISTRICT OR ZONING LOT THAT HAS SPLIT ZONING,
6:21:31PM YOU KNOW, WAS CONTEMPLATED TO HAVE THE SMALLER SCALE
6:21:34PM CEMETERY.
6:21:35PM AGAIN, WE WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE ONLY USE BEING
6:21:38PM PROPOSED TONIGHT AND WHAT SOLIDIFIED ON THE PD IF APPROVED
6:21:42PM WOULD BE A CEMETERY USE ONLY.
6:21:44PM ALSO, JUST AS MARTI-COLON CEMETERY OPERATES, THERE ARE NO
6:21:48PM EMPLOYEES ON-SITE.
6:21:49PM AGAIN, AS MARK MENTIONED, THAT TRAFFIC GENERATION IS DE
6:21:53PM MINIMIS BY MOST STANDARDS.
6:21:55PM HERE IS A CLOSE-UP OF THE SITE.
6:21:58PM WE ARE PROVIDING OR WILL BE PROVIDING INTERNAL CIRCULATION
6:22:02PM ONCE CONSTRUCTION IS PUSHED FORWARD AND MEET CITY OF TAMPA
6:22:06PM CODES 20 FEET FOR TWO-WAY ACCESS, ALL STORMWATER
6:22:09PM REQUIREMENTS, ET CETERA, AS WELL AS SIDEWALKS WOULD BE TO
6:22:12PM CHAPTER 22 AND THAT'S ANNOTATED ON OUR SITE PLAN.
6:22:15PM JUST A LITTLE HISTORY ABOUT THE LOT.
6:22:17PM THE CONFIGURATION IS A REMNANT AFTER THE CITY PURCHASED THE
6:22:21PM NORTHERN AND EASTERN PORTION OF THE MARTI -- ACTUALLY, IT IS
6:22:23PM THE COLON PORTION OF THE CEMETERY IN 2023.
6:22:26PM AND REALLY IT CREATED A SMALLER NONCONFORMING LOT FOR THE
6:22:30PM SPECIFIC CEMETERY USE, WHICH CANNOT ADHERE TO THE SPECIAL
6:22:32PM USE 1 CRITERIA.
6:22:34PM AGAIN, THIS PD ALLOWS US TO WAIVE THAT CRITERIA.
6:22:39PM SO EARLY IN THE PROCESS WE DID REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
6:22:42PM ASSOCIATIONS LISTED FOR THE FOLIO ADDRESS.
6:22:46PM I DID HEAR CONCERNS FROM A FEW OF THE ORGANIZATION MEMBERS
6:22:49PM THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, TOO, ABOUT ACCESS AND TRAFFIC.
6:22:52PM WE WENT BACK, LOOKED AT THE SITE PLAN, TRIED TO VIEW WHAT WE
6:22:56PM COULD DO.
6:22:56PM OBVIOUSLY, IT'S NOT LIKE A TYPICAL SITE PLAN WHERE YOU HAVE
6:23:01PM A LOT OF ENTITLEMENTS AND BUILDINGS AND DWELLING UNITS.
6:23:02PM BUT UNFORTUNATELY -- WELL, FORTUNATELY WE COULD LIMIT THE
6:23:06PM USE TO CEMETERY, SO THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS, RIGHT?
6:23:08PM BUT WE WERE AT AN IMPASSE ON THE ACCESS.
6:23:11PM AS MARK ALLUDED TO, THE ACCESS IS PART OF OUR CONCERN GOING
6:23:15PM NORTH TO COLUMBUS.
6:23:17PM THERE ARE SEVERAL ISSUES CONCERNING THAT UTILIZATION OF THE
6:23:20PM PATHWAY THROUGH MARTI-COLON CEMETERY.
6:23:22PM MOST IMPORTANTLY IS SAFETY.
6:23:23PM IT DOESN'T MEET TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE CODE FOR
6:23:26PM TRANSPORTATION.
6:23:27PM AGAIN, SOME PORTIONS OF THE PATHWAY 8 AND A HALF FEET IN
6:23:32PM WIDTH AND TWO-WAY TRAFFIC REQUIRES 20 FEET.
6:23:34PM WE DID LOOK AT NORTH MATANZAS AVENUE OR WEST SAINT JOHN
6:23:38PM STREET AS POINTS OF ACCESS.
6:23:39PM AND THE SAINT JOHN WAS THE SHORTEST DISTANCE FOR ACCESS TO
6:23:45PM MacDILL RATHER THAN GOING TO MATANZAS AND GETTING TO
6:23:48PM COLUMBUS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:23:49PM SO THE LEFT PHOTO ON SCREEN IS JUST ME MEASURING THE
6:23:54PM PAVEMENT AND THE RIGHT SHOWING 8.5 FEET ROUGHLY.
6:23:57PM YOU CAN SEE IT VARIES AS YOU WIGGLE TO THE NORTH THROUGH THE
6:24:00PM CEMETERY.
6:24:01PM HERE IS ANOTHER PHOTO.
6:24:05PM THIS IS MY VEHICLE ON THE PATHWAY.
6:24:07PM IT'S ONE WAY, BARELY FITS.
6:24:09PM YOU COULD SEE MY TIRES ARE BARELY ON THERE.
6:24:11PM ANYBODY BEEN TO MARTI-COLON CEMETERY, WE ALL KNOW IT'S VERY
6:24:15PM TIGHT.
6:24:15PM NOT ROOM TO WIDEN THE PATHWAY AND BARELY SOME OF THE TURN
6:24:19PM ANGLES YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU ARE DRIVING.
6:24:21PM ACTUALLY THE WEST PORTION OF THE CEMETERY WAS ACTUALLY
6:24:23PM CLOSED DOWN TO VEHICULAR TRAFFIC BECAUSE THE PATH HAS BEEN
6:24:26PM DETERIORATED AND IT'S NOT EVEN ACCESSIBLE BY VEHICLES AT
6:24:29PM THIS POINT.
6:24:29PM ANOTHER PICTURE SHOWING THE ENTRANCE AND ON THE RIGHT, THERE
6:24:35PM IS ACTUALLY A SIGN THAT SAYS SLOW DOWN, RIGHT TURN ONLY.
6:24:38PM THERE IS A MIRROR IN THE MEDIAN BECAUSE IT IS A BLIND RIGHT
6:24:42PM TURN.
6:24:42PM WHEN YOU PULL UP TO COLUMBUS, YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE LEFT.
6:24:45PM YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE MIRROR TO KIND OF GAUGE WHAT IS
6:24:48PM GOING ON.
6:24:48PM THIS IS BUILDING INTO THE SAFETY ISSUES AND WHY WE CAN'T
6:24:51PM ACCESS THE PROPERTY NORTH OF US, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE CITY.
6:24:55PM AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW STAFF, WE WERE CONSISTENT
6:24:57PM WITH ALL DEPARTMENTS EXCEPT FOR TRANSPORTATION, AND THAT
6:24:59PM RELATES SOLELY TO THE ACCESS TO THE LOCAL STREET.
6:25:02PM THAT IS THE ONLY WAIVER THAT TRANSPORTATION SPECIFICALLY
6:25:05PM FOUND INCONSISTENT.
6:25:06PM THE REMAINDER OF THE DEPARTMENTS FOUND US CONSISTENT.
6:25:08PM AS MARK STATED, OUR CLIENT IS ENTITLED TO THIS ACCESS, TO
6:25:12PM THE PUBLIC STREET.
6:25:14PM ALMOST LIKE A TECHNICALITY THAT WE HAVE TO REQUEST THIS
6:25:17PM WAIVER TO THE PUBLIC STREET.
6:25:18PM WITHOUT THIS ACCESS, THE PROPERTY WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE LAND
6:25:21PM LOCKED AND CREATE MOST LIKELY NUMEROUS LEGAL ISSUES.
6:25:25PM THESE ARE SEVERAL GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND POLICIES THAT WE'RE
6:25:27PM COMPLIANT WITH.
6:25:28PM I'M NOT GOING TO READ THEM OFF TO YOU, I PROMISE.
6:25:30PM I KNOW YOU HAVE A LONG NIGHT AHEAD OF YOU, TURN THE
6:25:33PM PRESENTATION IN FOR THE RECORD, BUT WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH
6:25:34PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
6:25:36PM AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO RUSSELL
6:25:39PM OTTENBERG.
6:25:40PM HE IS OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNER AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE
6:25:43PM TRAFFIC GENERATION.
6:25:44PM >> GOOD EVENING, RUSSELL OTTENBERG.
6:25:50PM PLANNING, INCORPORATED.
6:25:51PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
6:25:53PM ADD ONE THING REGARDING THE 20-FOOT ACCESS THAT RYAN WAS
6:25:56PM DISCUSSING.
6:25:57PM 20-FOOT ACCESS ISN'T JUST A TECHNICAL STANDARD.
6:25:59PM NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION REQUIREMENT THAT THE
6:26:02PM FIRE MARSHAL ENFORCES THROUGH THE CITY AND WE DO A LOT OF
6:26:06PM LAND DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE CITY, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH
6:26:09PM THAT REQUIREMENT.
6:26:10PM MOVING ON, WE LOOKED AT THE TRIP GENERATION FOR THE CEMETERY
6:26:17PM AND WE'RE USING THE AVERAGE RATE ITE ALSO HAS A FITTED CURVE
6:26:23PM EQUATION, BUT IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE THE CEMETERY IS SO
6:26:26PM SMALL, IT WOULD ACTUALLY END UP WITH A NEGATIVE TRIP
6:26:29PM GENERATION.
6:26:30PM SO WE USE THE AVERAGE RATE INSTEAD.
6:26:33PM AS YOU CAN SEE, THE AVERAGE RATE FOR A CEMETERY THAT'S UNDER
6:26:37PM AN ACRE 6.02 PER ACRE, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SIX TRIPS FOR THE
6:26:42PM CEMETERY.
6:26:42PM THESE ARE DAILY TRIPS, TOTAL DAILY TRIPS, WHICH IS A DE
6:26:47PM MINIMIS IMPACT.
6:26:48PM PER THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REPORT, WITHOUT A DENSITY
6:26:57PM BONUS, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR 27 RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO BE
6:27:00PM PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY.
6:27:01PM AS YOU CAN SEE, 27 UNITS WOULD YIELD 182 WEEKDAY TRIPS.
6:27:06PM THAT AGAIN IS USING THE AVERAGE RATE, NOT THE FITTED CURVE.
6:27:11PM IT IS AN APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON WITH THE CEMETERY.
6:27:14PM FURTHERMORE, PER THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REPORT, THIS
6:27:19PM COULD ALSO BE A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW UP
6:27:22PM TO 40,500 OR SO SQUARE FEET OF NONRESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
6:27:31PM JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, THIS COULD YIELD, SAY, HALF RETAIL, HALF
6:27:36PM MEDICAL OFFICE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, WHICH WOULD BE OVER 1800
6:27:43PM DAILY TRIPS COMPARED TO THE SIX DAILY TRIPS THAT THE
6:27:46PM CEMETERY WOULD GENERATE.
6:27:47PM SO, OBVIOUSLY, THE CEMETERY IS A VERY LOW TRIP GENERATOR,
6:27:56PM NOT EVEN LOOKING AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT, IF YOU
6:27:58PM LOOK AT JUST WHAT CAN BE DEVELOPED BY RIGHT, WHICH IS FOUR
6:28:01PM OR FIVE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, THAT WOULD GENERATE 47 DAILY
6:28:05PM TRIPS, WHICH IS EIGHT TIMES THE AMOUNT OF TRIPS THAT THE
6:28:09PM CEMETERY WOULD GENERATE.
6:28:10PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
6:28:13PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS TURN IT OVER TO RABBI.
6:28:17PM YEAH, THERE IS ONE OTHER ITEM, AND THAT IS THE -- IF THIS
6:28:23PM WERE DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL,
6:28:26PM FOR SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, THEY WOULD EACH HAVE THEIR
6:28:28PM OWN DRIVEWAY SO YOU WOULD HAVE FOUR OR FIVE DRIVEWAYS.
6:28:31PM IF IT WAS COMMERCIAL, YOU WOULD HAVE ONE OR TWO DRIVEWAYS.
6:28:34PM WE HAVE ONE DRIVEWAY FOR THE CEMETERY.
6:28:38PM WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE RABBI.
6:28:41PM >> I HAVE BEEN AFFIRMED.
6:28:45PM DUBROWSKI.
6:28:46PM NEED MY HOME ADDRESS FOR FAN MAIL?
6:28:49PM >> NO.
6:28:51PM >> I DIDN'T BRING A LARGE GROUP WITH ME.
6:28:53PM UNFORTUNATELY, PEOPLE AREN'T SUPER ENTHUSIASTIC GOING ON THE
6:28:56PM RECORD RELATED TO THEIR OWN MORTALITY AND END OF LIFE, SO
6:28:59PM I'M REPRESENTING THEM.
6:29:00PM BUT I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND TALK ABOUT THE
6:29:03PM IMPORTANCE OF A JEWISH CEMETERY, WHICH IS AS IT SOUNDS A
6:29:06PM CEMETERY DEDICATED TO LAYING PEOPLE TO REST IN THE JEWISH
6:29:10PM FAITH.
6:29:11PM AS SOMEONE THAT HAS GROWN UP HERE IN TAMPA AND UNDERSTANDS
6:29:14PM WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A MINORITY, IT CAN BE DIFFICULT
6:29:18PM SOMETIMES TO FEEL THAT YOUR FAITH IS CELEBRATED AND
6:29:21PM RESPECTED AND VALUED, EVEN THOUGH WE LIVE IN A COUNTRY THAT,
6:29:25PM OF COURSE, AFFORDS THOSE LIBERTIES AND FREEDOMS TO EVERYBODY
6:29:28PM AND A STATE THAT CELEBRATES THAT AND THE CITY THAT
6:29:30PM CELEBRATES THAT.
6:29:31PM BUT THERE ARE MOMENTS IN OUR LIFE WHEN IT IS EVEN MORE
6:29:35PM MEANINGFUL TO HAVE YOUR FAITH AND YOUR TRADITIONS RESPECTED
6:29:39PM AND VALUED.
6:29:40PM AND THOSE ARE MILESTONE MOMENTS.
6:29:42PM AND AT THE VERY TOP OF THE LIST IS WHEN A PERSON PASSES.
6:29:45PM FOR THE INDIVIDUAL PASSING TO KNOW THEY WILL HAVE THE
6:29:52PM OPPORTUNITY TO BE BURIED IN ACCORDANCE WITH TRADITION AND
6:29:56PM SPACE DEDICATED TO THE TRADITION IS IMPORTANT AND THE FAMILY
6:29:59PM DEALING WITH THE LOSS AND GRIEF, AS A RABBI, I DO A FAIR
6:30:01PM AMOUNT OF FUNERALS.
6:30:03PM CURRENTLY, THERE IS NO DEDICATED JEWISH CEMETERY.
6:30:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'RE PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
6:30:09PM MR. SHELBY, CAN I GIVE HIM ANOTHER 30 SECONDS?
6:30:13PM YOU ALSO HAVE REBUTTAL.
6:30:15PM 30 MORE SECONDS.
6:30:20PM >> 30 SECONDS.
6:30:20PM CURRENTLY, THERE IS NO DEDICATED JEWISH CEMETERY WITHIN THE
6:30:23PM CITY OF TAMPA.
6:30:25PM FOR SOMEONE TO DRIVE TO A DEDICATED JEWISH CEMETERY,
6:30:27PM TYPICALLY I'M GOING TO LUTZ, WHICH IS DIFFICULT FOR THE
6:30:31PM FUNERAL.
6:30:32PM ALSO DIFFICULT FOR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO VISIT
6:30:34PM THEIR LOVED ONES.
6:30:36PM SO THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A CEMETERY THAT IS
6:30:39PM DEDICATED TO YOUR FAITH, TO YOUR TRADITION, FOR THE FAMILY,
6:30:42PM FOR THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S LOOKING AT THEIR PASSING, AND THEN
6:30:44PM TO BE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A CITY THAT IS GROWING AND THAT
6:30:48PM REQUIRES THIS, I THINK IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE.
6:30:51PM AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE MOVING FORWARD AND ADVOCATING FOR
6:30:54PM THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY.
6:30:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:30:56PM THERE ARE JEWISH CEMETERIES DEDICATED IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
6:31:03PM >> THEY ARE SOLD OUT.
6:31:07PM >> LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.
6:31:08PM [ LAUGHTER ]
6:31:11PM >> BUT I CAN HOOK YOU UP.
6:31:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'VE GOT A SPACE OVER AT MYRTLE -- YES,
6:31:16PM SIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
6:31:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL.
6:31:20PM I HAD INITIALLY BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE PD AND ASSUMING
6:31:24PM THAT THE PD IS THERE MOSTLY BECAUSE OF GOING TO ZERO
6:31:27PM SETBACK.
6:31:27PM BUT THEN I SEE IN THE ADJACENT CEMETERY THEIR SETBACK SEEMS
6:31:32PM TO BE ZERO AS WELL, ALONG THAT STREET CONSISTENT WITH ZERO?
6:31:35PM I THINK I SAW THAT.
6:31:37PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
6:31:37PM IF YOU WALK AROUND MARTI-COLON, IT'S ZERO.
6:31:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WILL BE A STRAIGHT LINE DOWN --
6:31:43PM >> CORRECT.
6:31:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: -- THE ONE STREET.
6:31:46PM SIDEWALKS, DID -- YOU'RE HAVING SIDEWALKS ON BOTH STREETS?
6:31:51PM >> SITE PLAN CONSISTENT WITH CHAPTER 22 FOR SIDEWALKS, WHICH
6:31:53PM IS THE REQUIREMENT PER THE CODE.
6:31:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
6:31:57PM AND I DISCERNED FROM YOUR TESTIMONY YOU FEEL LIKE THE FUTURE
6:31:59PM RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE HOMEBODIES.
6:32:00PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE COMING BACK AND FORTH VERY MUCH.
6:32:03PM >> YES, SIR.
6:32:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
6:32:05PM THANK YOU.
6:32:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NEED A LAUGH TRACK.
6:32:07PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
6:32:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED IN
6:32:15PM 2023?
6:32:15PM I THINK SOMEBODY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY OR SOMETHING.
6:32:19PM SOMETHING COMES TO MY MIND ABOUT SOMETHING HAPPENED,
6:32:23PM SOMEBODY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY.
6:32:25PM IT'S NOT RELATED BUT I GOT TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER BECAUSE
6:32:28PM WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IS I SEE THE ONE ENTRANCE YOU HAVE, THE
6:32:34PM ONLY ENTRANCE YOU HAVE REALLY IS ON COLUMBUS DRIVE.
6:32:38PM YOU SAY YOU NEED TWO ENTRANCES.
6:32:40PM IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE ASTURIANO HOSPITAL, CEMETERY
6:32:44PM OR CENTRO ESPANOL, ONE ON LAKE, BUFFALO, MLK, YOU SEE THAT
6:32:54PM THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.
6:32:56PM THE ROADS ARE NOT MUCH WIDER THAN THAT.
6:32:58PM HOWEVER YOU GO BACK TO 1995 WHY IT IS WHY IT IS.
6:33:04PM THERE WERE NO CARS IN 1995.
6:33:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 1895.
6:33:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 1895, EXCUSE ME.
6:33:09PM I'M A HUNDRED YEARS AHEAD OF MYSELF.
6:33:11PM BUT I'LL GET THERE IN TIME.
6:33:12PM I LIKE TO GO FORWARD, NEVER BACKWARDS.
6:33:14PM IN GOING BACKWARDS TO 1895, VERY LITTLE, IF ANY MOVEMENT
6:33:21PM THERE OTHER THAN HORSEBACK OR WALKING.
6:33:23PM IN FACT, HORSES ON CORDELIA -- I'M NOT GOING TO GO THERE
6:33:31PM BECAUSE IT'S TOO LONG.
6:33:33PM BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF YOU LOOK AT SAINT JOHN AND YOU
6:33:36PM LOOK AT MATANZAS, IT'S AN L.
6:33:39PM THERE'S NO STRAIGHT STREET.
6:33:41PM SAINT JOHN DOESN'T GO STRAIGHT TO MacDILL.
6:33:43PM SO THAT STREET IS A LITTLE BIT WIDER THAN THIS ONE.
6:33:49PM I'M LOOKING AT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN ON THE TRAFFIC PATTERN TO
6:33:57PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE ONLY ONE WAY OUT AND ONE WAY IN
6:34:01PM THAT SIDE.
6:34:02PM IF YOU'RE SAYING CAN'T GET IN, CAN'T GET OUT FROM THE OTHER
6:34:05PM SIDE, MEANS YOU GET IN AND OUT FROM THIS SIDE.
6:34:08PM I'M LOOKING AT THIS THING REALISTICALLY.
6:34:19PM THE PROPERTY, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
6:34:20PM THE CITY HAD TO BUY A PORTION OF THAT, IF I RECALL, 2023,
6:34:24PM AND THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ZONING.
6:34:27PM BUT THE CITY HAD TO BUY PROPERTY TO SATISFY SOMETHING.
6:34:29PM I FORGOT WHAT IT WAS, BECAUSE IT WAS A TECHNICAL THING AND
6:34:33PM THE CITY IS REALLY OUT OF THE CEMETERY BUSINESS, BUT GUESS
6:34:37PM WHAT, WE END UP MAINTAINING ALL OF THEM TO SPEAK OF.
6:34:43PM THIS CEMETERY WAS OWNED BY ONE OR TWO OF THE PEOPLE THAT DOT
6:34:52PM BURIAL SERVICES.
6:34:56PM EVERY TIME YOU HAVE A BURY, SET SO MUCH MONEY ASIDE FOR
6:35:00PM PERPETUAL MAINTENANCE FOREVER FOR THE CEMETERY.
6:35:03PM GUESS WHAT, I GUESS THEY RAN OUT OF MONEY.
6:35:07PM BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO, NOW THIS IS THE THIRD OR FOURTH THAT
6:35:11PM WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN.
6:35:16PM SOUNDS REAL GOOD, BUT I JUST WANT TO HEAR THE REST OF THE
6:35:23PM CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE CITY PRESENTATION AND THE
6:35:25PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
6:35:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
6:35:28PM WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
6:35:31PM IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 4, PLEASE COME UP AND
6:35:34PM STATE YOUR NAME.
6:35:35PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
6:36:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE MS. MARTIN HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
6:36:15PM IF YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE YOU ARE HERE.
6:36:17PM BARBARA.
6:36:20PM SYLVIA DIAZ.
6:36:22PM THANK YOU.
6:36:23PM ADRIENNE LARAMIE.
6:36:28PM THANK YOU.
6:36:29PM SANDY SANCHEZ.
6:36:31PM DONNY BLANCO.
6:36:36PM REUBIN.
6:36:42PM THANK YOU.
6:36:42PM MIKE BENNETT.
6:36:44PM THANK YOU.
6:36:44PM I HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN NAMES FOR A
6:36:51PM TOTAL OF TEN MINUTES.
6:36:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
6:36:59PM GO AHEAD.
6:37:00PM >> MISSY MARTIN, 2729 MAIN STREET.
6:37:02PM I WANTED TO START OFF, FIRST OF ALL, BY THANKING THE RABBI
6:37:06PM BY MENTIONING THE PORTION OF THE MINORITIES AND HOW
6:37:11PM IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE A PLACE THAT MARTI-COLON CEMETERY IS
6:37:15PM FULL OF TAMPA'S ORIGINAL IMMIGRANTS DATING ALL THE WAY BACK
6:37:19PM TO THE 1800s.
6:37:21PM I'M GLAD HE MENTIONED THAT.
6:37:22PM ALSO, BEFORE I START, I WANTED TO BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT
6:37:25PM I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PROPERTY'S USE AS A
6:37:28PM CEMETERY.
6:37:28PM IT'S A CEMETERY AND THAT'S WHAT IT SHOULD BE USED FOR.
6:37:31PM WHAT I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT IS A VERY DETRIMENTAL REQUEST
6:37:35PM FOR A PD ZONING AND TO ALLOW A MAIN ENTRANCE INTO A CEMETERY
6:37:39PM INSIDE OF OUR WEST TAMPA NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:37:41PM THEREFORE I AGREE WITH THE CITY STAFF AND MOBILITIES REPORT
6:37:46PM THIS REQUEST IS NOT CONSISTENT.
6:37:48PM THE APPLICANT HAS ASKED FOR SEVERAL WAIVERS WHICH WILL ALLOW
6:37:52PM THEM TO PUT AN ENTRANCE TO THE PROPOSED CEMETERY THROUGH A
6:37:55PM RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
6:37:58PM THE WAIVER REQUEST, PART OF THE WAIVER REQUEST IS TO ALLOW
6:38:02PM NONRESIDENTIAL ACCESS TO A LOCAL STREET IN LIEU OF THE
6:38:06PM REQUIRED COLLECTOR OR ARTERIAL STREETS.
6:38:09PM WHILE THE OVERALL MAP SHOWS PDs IN THE AREA, IT DOES NOT
6:38:13PM HIGHLIGHT ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE IMMEDIATELY TO THE
6:38:15PM SOUTH AND THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY, AND IT IS THE LARGE AREA
6:38:19PM HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE AND IN BROWN.
6:38:22PM THE SITE IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT IS THE FIRST
6:38:27PM PAGE OF THE HANDOUT.
6:38:28PM THE MAIN ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN THROUGH
6:38:30PM COLUMBUS DRIVE, WHICH IS AN ARTERIAL ROAD.
6:38:33PM AND WHEN I SAY ALWAYS, THE MARTI-COLON CEMETERY HASN'T
6:38:36PM ALWAYS BEEN OWNED BY THE CITY.
6:38:38PM IT WAS PARTIALLY THE CITY AND PRIVATELY OWNED, AND THAT
6:38:42PM STREET AND THAT ENTRANCE WAS GOOD ENOUGH THEN AND IT SHOULD
6:38:44PM BE GOOD ENOUGH NOW.
6:38:46PM IN THE PAST AND TODAY, ALL FUNERAL PROCESSIONS AND VISITORS
6:38:50PM TO THE CEMETERY ARE ROUTED THROUGH THIS ROAD.
6:38:52PM THE EXISTING INTERNAL DRIVEWAY EXTENDS FROM COLUMBUS DRIVE
6:38:56PM TO THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY AND CAN BE EASILY DRIVEN THROUGH
6:39:00PM TO GET TO THAT PARCEL.
6:39:02PM YOU CAN SEE THIS IN THE HANDOUT ON THE NEXT THREE PAGES, SO
6:39:05PM THAT'S PAGES TWO THROUGH FOUR.
6:39:07PM ON PAGE 5, THE APPLICANT'S ORIGINAL SITE PLANS CALLED FOR
6:39:12PM THE ENTRANCE THROUGH THE COLUMBUS DRIVE AND ST. JOHN STREET.
6:39:16PM AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THEIR ARROWS, THEY SHOW AN ARROW ON THE
6:39:20PM EXISTING DRIVEWAY LABELED SECONDARY ACCESS.
6:39:24PM WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAW THIS PROPOSAL, THEY VOICED THEIR
6:39:28PM CONCERN.
6:39:29PM I MYSELF CALLED RYAN MANASSE WHO WORKS WITH MR. BENTLEY.
6:39:33PM ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO AND GAVE HIM AN IDEA OF THE
6:39:36PM NEIGHBORHOOD'S DISCOMFORT OF THE SAINT JOHN ENTRANCE OR
6:39:42PM EXIT.
6:39:42PM THE APPLICANT HAS KNOWN THAT THE ENTRANCE OR EXIT ON SAINT
6:39:46PM JOHN WOULD BE AN AREA OF CONTENTION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:39:48PM THEY HAVE MADE NO ATTEMPT TO CONTACT ANYONE IN THE
6:39:50PM NEIGHBORHOOD EXCEPT FOR THE REQUIRED PUBLIC NOTICES.
6:39:54PM AS YOU CAN SEE ON PAGE 6, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE WAY A
6:39:58PM RETENTION POND WAS ADDED AND THE COLUMBUS DRIVE ENTRY
6:40:03PM LABELED SECONDARY ACCESS WAS SCRAPPED.
6:40:05PM THIS FURTHER HEIGHTENED THE CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
6:40:09PM ITS RESIDENTS.
6:40:10PM THERE ARE ALSO SEVERAL ITEMS THE CITY HAS REQUESTED TO BE
6:40:13PM ADDED TO THE SITE PLAN.
6:40:15PM NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN ADDED SINCE I LAST CHECKED ON
6:40:19PM FEBRUARY 7.
6:40:20PM IF I'M WRONG ON THIS PORTION, I STAND CORRECTED AND I LOOK
6:40:22PM FORWARD TO SEEING THE CHANGES.
6:40:23PM THE OTHER ITEM THAT WAS NOT ADDED WAS THE LAST SITE PLAN
6:40:27PM THAT HE SHOWED WITH THE TWO BLUE ARROWS WITH THE EXIT AND
6:40:31PM ENTRANCE ON MATANZAS.
6:40:32PM AS OF THIS MORNING, THAT WAS NOT ON SIRE OR UPLOADED.
6:40:35PM THE WAIVERS REQUESTED, REQUEST TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM LOT
6:40:39PM SIZE FROM THE REQUIRED 85,000 SQUARE FEET DOWN TO 40,389.
6:40:45PM THAT'S MORE THAN HALF.
6:40:46PM REQUEST TO ALLOW NONRESIDENTIAL ACCESS TO A LOCAL STREET IN
6:40:51PM LIEU OF THE REQUIRED COLLECTOR OR ARTERIAL STREET.
6:40:54PM REQUEST TO ALLOW REDUCTION IN INTERMENT REQUIREMENT FROM 30
6:40:58PM FEET TO 0 OF THE ZONING LOT LINE.
6:41:01PM ON PAGE 7 I'VE GIVEN YOU A COPY FOR EASE OF UNDERSTANDING
6:41:06PM AND SOME ADDITIONAL POINTS I HAVEN'T TOUCHED ON YET.
6:41:09PM PLEASE SHOW SIDEWALKS ON THE SITE PLAN AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
6:41:12PM ALONG SAINT JOHN STREET AND NORTH MATANZAS AVENUE.
6:41:15PM CURRENTLY THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:41:17PM PLEASE SHOW THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY APRON,
6:41:21PM PEDESTRIAN ACCESS ON WEST SAINT JOHN STREET, NOT JUST THE
6:41:24PM ARROWS.
6:41:25PM FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REPORT, WE SEE OTHER ISSUES THAT
6:41:28PM ARE NOT ON THE SITE PLAN AND IS UP FOR GRABS BETWEEN FIRST
6:41:32PM AND SECOND READING.
6:41:33PM SHOW THE SIDEWALKS ON THE SITE PLAN.
6:41:36PM LABEL THE WIDTH OF THE SIDEWALK.
6:41:38PM LABEL AS PROPOSED.
6:41:40PM AMEND ZONING NOTE NUMBER 3 AS FOLLOWS: BURIAL PLOTS,
6:41:43PM HEADSTONES, ET CETERA, SHALL HAVE NO SETBACKS.
6:41:46PM SEE WAIVER REQUESTED.
6:41:47PM A SIX-FOOT PVC OR WROUGHT IRON FENCING IS PERMITTED ON THE
6:41:51PM PROPERTY.
6:41:52PM THESE ARE MISSING FROM THE SITE PLAN WHICH GIVES THE
6:41:56PM COMMUNITY MUCH CONCERN.
6:41:58PM THESE ARE ISSUES THAT AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN THE
6:42:00PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT ALSO AFFECTS THOSE INTERRED ALONG THE
6:42:05PM PROPERTY LINE OF THE MARTI-COLON CEMETERY AND THEIR
6:42:08PM FAMILIES.
6:42:08PM ARE SIDEWALKS GOING TO BE BUILT AND WHAT WIDTH WILL THEY BE
6:42:11PM OR WILL THE APPLICANT DECIDE TO PAY INTO THE SIDEWALK FUND?
6:42:14PM A CHOICE BETWEEN A SIX-FOOT WHITE PVC OR WROUGHT IRON FENCE.
6:42:19PM A SIX-FOOT WHITE PVC WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE. IT WOULD BE A
6:42:23PM HIDING PLACE FOR VAGRANTS AND JEOPARDIZE THE SAFETY OF THE
6:42:26PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:42:27PM THIS IS WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SEES IN THEIR PROPOSAL.
6:42:30PM A FUNERAL PROCESSION TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THEIR
6:42:33PM RESIDENTIAL STREETS OR LOVED ONES COMING TO VISIT THE
6:42:35PM INTERRED, PARKING ILLEGALLY BECAUSE PER CITY ORDINANCE,
6:42:39PM THERE IS NO LEGAL PARKING ON SAINT CONRAD OR MATANZAS OR
6:42:44PM SAINT JOHN.
6:42:44PM THIS WILL LEAD TO BLOCKED DRIVEWAYS AND EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC TO
6:42:49PM AN ALREADY BURDENED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:42:51PM AND I THINK THEY MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THEY ONLY HAVE ONE
6:42:55PM REQUIRED PARKING SPACE.
6:42:56PM WHERE ARE PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO PARK WHEN THEY COME TO THE
6:42:58PM CEMETERY TO VISIT?
6:42:59PM ON PAGE 8 IN THE ZONING NOTES, A 20-FOOT WIDE CIRCULAR
6:43:06PM DRIVEWAY IS REQUIRED.
6:43:07PM THIS IS ALSO NOT INCLUDED IN THE SITE PLAN.
6:43:10PM THIS IS OUR FEAR AND IT'S REAL THAT YOU REZONE AS A PD AND
6:43:15PM THEY FIND THAT IT IS NOT CONDUCIVE FOR THEIR CEMETERY AS
6:43:20PM SUBMITTED.
6:43:21PM THEN CITY COUNCIL YOU WOULD HAVE VOTED ON A FRIVOLOUS PD AND
6:43:24PM WE ALL KNOW PD WILL FOLLOW THE PROPERTY IF THEY CHOOSE TO
6:43:28PM SELL AND ALMOST ANYTHING CAN BE BUILT ON THE SITE WITH A PD.
6:43:31PM I ASK THAT YOU ANSWER IS THE APPLICATION AND WAIVER REQUEST
6:43:35PM BASED ON THESE REASONS AND BASED ON THE CITY STAFF
6:43:39PM MOBILITIES REPORT FINDING THEM TO BE INCONSISTENT.
6:43:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:43:44PM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
6:43:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SPEAKER WAIVER FORM FOR MS. BENNETT.
6:44:00PM PAT CARPENTER.
6:44:02PM PAM.
6:44:05PM I'M SORRY.
6:44:05PM PAM CARPENTER.
6:44:07PM PAT SIMINO.
6:44:10PM THANK YOU.
6:44:10PM TWO ADDITIONAL MINUTES, PLEASE.
6:44:12PM FOUR MINUTES.
6:44:13PM THREE, FOUR, FIVE.
6:44:15PM FIVE.
6:44:16PM >> HI.
6:44:16PM MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
6:44:18PM MISSY MARTIN TOOK ME ON A TOUR OF THIS CEMETERY IN A VERY
6:44:23PM LARGE VEHICLE AND WE HAD NO PROBLEMS WHATSOEVER ENTERING IT
6:44:26PM FROM COLUMBUS.
6:44:27PM WE DROVE THROUGH IT.
6:44:30PM OBVIOUSLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IS THERE IS QUITE ADEQUATE
6:44:33PM FOR FUNERALS.
6:44:34PM A FUNERAL HAD JUST BEEN HELD THERE THE WEEKEND BEFORE.
6:44:37PM THIS IS AN ACTIVE CEMETERY.
6:44:38PM THEY JUST HELD A FUNERAL THE WEEKEND BEFORE I WAS THERE.
6:44:42PM I FIND THIS PD TO BE VERY CONFUSING.
6:44:46PM A PD IS A SITE PLAN CONTROL, BUT ALMOST NOTHING ON THIS SITE
6:44:50PM PLAN.
6:44:51PM IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A SURVEY.
6:44:53PM ONE OF THE MAIN FEATURES OF THE PROPOSAL IS THE PEDESTRIAN
6:44:56PM ACCESS ON THE SMALL RESIDENTIAL STREET, BUT THERE'S NO
6:45:00PM LOCATION FOR THE GATE OR THE DRIVEWAY OR THE ACCESS.
6:45:03PM THERE'S NOTHING ON THE SITE PLAN BUT AN ARROW.
6:45:07PM THERE'S NO RENDERING OF WHAT THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS WILL LOOK
6:45:09PM LIKE, WHAT THE GATE WILL LOOK LIKE, WHAT THE FENCE WILL LOOK
6:45:12PM LIKE, IF THERE WILL BE A FENCE.
6:45:14PM THERE'S NO DRIVEWAY.
6:45:15PM THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS, THERE ARE NO CURBS.
6:45:18PM THEY WANT TO DIRECT ALL OF THE TRAFFIC AND FUNERALS THROUGH
6:45:21PM THIS GATE THAT WILL BE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS LITTLE
6:45:23PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND YET THE NEIGHBORS HAVE NO IDEA HOW IT WILL
6:45:26PM WORK OR WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.
6:45:28PM THEY SAY THEY WANT A CIRCULAR DRIVEWAY BUT TO SATISFY THE
6:45:33PM FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS IT WILL HAVE TO BE HUGE.
6:45:35PM AGAIN, IT'S NOT ON THE SITE PLAN.
6:45:37PM FRANKLY, I THINK THIS APPLICATION IS INCOMPLETE.
6:45:40PM THE PROPOSAL OF THE CEMETERY IS GOOD.
6:45:43PM EVERYBODY IS HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
6:45:45PM BUT WHY DON'T THEY COMPLY WITH THE CODE AND USE THE ENTRANCE
6:45:48PM AND DRIVEWAY ON COLUMBUS THAT HAS WORKED FOR DECADES AND IS
6:45:51PM STILL ACTIVELY USED?
6:45:53PM THEY CAN BUILD ANY KIND OF ROAD THEY WANT.
6:45:56PM THE ENTRANCE IS THE ISSUE.
6:45:57PM THEY JUST NEED TO USE COLUMBUS.
6:46:00PM THIS IS A PUBLIC PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY.
6:46:02PM IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC EVERY SINGLE DAY.
6:46:04PM ACCESS CANNOT BE RESTRICTED.
6:46:06PM THIS IS POORLY THOUGHT OUT AND INAPPROPRIATE TO FORCE THE
6:46:10PM TRAFFIC THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT VIOLATES THE CODE.
6:46:14PM INSTEAD OF USING THE EXISTING ENTRANCE ON COLUMBUS.
6:46:16PM IF THEY USE THE ENTRANCE TO THIS LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD,
6:46:20PM THERE'S NO ROOM FOR PEOPLE'S CARS, WHETHER THEY ARE FUNERAL
6:46:23PM ATTENDEES OR EVEN VISITORS.
6:46:25PM I'VE BEEN TO THE SITE.
6:46:26PM THE MOURNERS AND VISITORS WILL END UP PARKING ILLEGALLY IN
6:46:29PM THE FRONT YARDS OF THE NEIGHBORS.
6:46:31PM THIS WILL BE VERY DISRUPTING AND FOR NO REASON.
6:46:34PM THE INFRASTRUCTURE WHICH COMPLIES WITH THE CODE IS ALREADY
6:46:37PM THERE.
6:46:37PM JUST USE THAT AND DO WHAT OBVIOUSLY WORKS, ENTER FROM
6:46:42PM COLUMBUS.
6:46:42PM THE WAIVER TO REDUCE THE SETBACKS FOR BURIAL PLOTS AND
6:46:45PM HEADSTONES FROM 30 FEET TO ZERO FEET DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A
6:46:49PM GOOD IDEA TO ME.
6:46:51PM THEY MIGHT ONLY BE ASKING FOR THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE USING UP
6:46:54PM SO MUCH SPACE WITH REDUNDANT AND NONCOMPLIANT
6:46:56PM INFRASTRUCTURE.
6:46:57PM BUT OTHERWISE, THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR INTERMENTS WITHOUT
6:47:01PM REDUCING 30-FOOT SETBACK TO 0.
6:47:04PM AGAIN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
6:47:07PM CEMETERY NO-BRAINER, EASY PEASY BUT THEY SEEM TO BE MAKING
6:47:10PM IT HARD AND DISRUPTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:47:13PM THE LAND USE GOALS LISTED IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT,
6:47:16PM I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE YOUR TIME GOING THROUGH ALL OF THEM,
6:47:19PM BUT I READ THROUGH THEM AND MOST OF THEM DON'T APPLY AT ALL.
6:47:23PM ONE OF THEM IN PARTICULAR SAID PROVIDE APPROPRIATE
6:47:25PM PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING, STREET FURNISHINGS,
6:47:29PM INCLUDING BENCHES, TRASH RECEPTACLES AND TRANSIT STOPS.
6:47:32PM WELL, THIS SITE PLAN DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
6:47:35PM THERE WAS ALSO A MENTION BY NATURAL RESOURCES THAT THERE IS
6:47:40PM AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL AND THERE NEEDS TO BE A WALL ERECTED
6:47:43PM BETWEEN THE CEMETERY AND THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL THAT'S NOT
6:47:45PM ON THE SITE PLAN.
6:47:46PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO CITE LU POLICY 9.3.8. IT IS THE INTENT
6:47:50PM OF THE CITY THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS BE MINIMALLY
6:47:55PM DISRUPTIVE TO ADJACENT AREAS.
6:47:56PM THE CITY SHALL ASSESS THE POTENTIAL POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE
6:48:00PM ASPECTS.
6:48:04PM I'M SORRY.
6:48:04PM I THINK I QUOTED THE WRONG ONE.
6:48:06PM IT SAYS RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
6:48:07PM SCRATCH THAT.
6:48:08PM MY MISTAKE.
6:48:10PM BUT I WILL CITE SECTION 27-132C REQUEST TO ALLOW
6:48:17PM NONRESIDENTIAL ACCESS TO A LOCAL STREET IN LIEU OF THE
6:48:19PM REQUIRED COLLECTOR OR ARTERIAL STREET.
6:48:22PM THAT'S ONE OF THE WAIVERS THAT NEEDS TO BE DENIED BASED ON
6:48:25PM THAT.
6:48:26PM THE OTHER WAIVER, SECTION 27-132D, REQUEST TO ALLOW
6:48:29PM REDUCTION IN INTERMENT REQUIREMENT FROM 30 FEET TO 0 FEET OF
6:48:33PM ANY ZONING LOT LINE.
6:48:34PM PLEASE UPHOLD THE STAFF FINDING OF INCONSISTENT.
6:48:37PM DENY THE TWO WAIVERS.
6:48:38PM VOTE NO.
6:48:38PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS UNANIMOUSLY AGAINST THIS PROJECT.
6:48:42PM THEY ARE ONLY AGAINST THE ENTRANCE.
6:48:44PM THEY LOVE THE IDEA OF THE CEMETERY.
6:48:45PM THANK YOU.
6:48:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:48:48PM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
6:48:51PM >> YEAH, LEAVE THIS UP HERE.
6:48:52PM GOOD EVENING.
6:48:53PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
6:48:55PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY, REALLY BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS,
6:49:00PM BECAUSE GOD AND EVERYBODY CAME THIS MORNING AND WAS
6:49:07PM COMPLAINING THAT THEIR CEMETERY DOESN'T HAVE A FENCE.
6:49:10PM BUT YET OPTIONAL.
6:49:10PM I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- YOU KNOW, I HAD TO GO BACK AND
6:49:13PM LOOK TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS A REZONING BECAUSE THIS SITE PLAN
6:49:17PM DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD ANTICIPATE IF
6:49:19PM YOU WERE PUTTING A BUILDING ON IT.
6:49:21PM AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO DO A SITE PLAN WITH A BUILDING.
6:49:24PM THERE'S NO SIDEWALK.
6:49:25PM THERE'S NO ROAD.
6:49:27PM AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THIS.
6:49:29PM WHEN I LOOKED AT THE MINERAL RIGHTS FOR MY GREAT, GREAT,
6:49:32PM GREAT GRANDFATHER, THERE ARE ROAD RIGHT-OF-WAYS THAT ARE
6:49:36PM WRITTEN -- THAT ARE STILL IN PLACE A HUNDRED YEARS LATER.
6:49:40PM SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THESE FOLKS DIDN'T COME TO THE
6:49:43PM CITY AND SAY, HEY, LET'S DO THE EASEMENT FROM THE OTHER
6:49:46PM CEMETERY.
6:49:47PM KIND OF MAKES SENSE TO ME.
6:49:48PM MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING, BUT THE FENCE THING REALLY
6:49:55PM BOTHERS ME, AND NOBODY ELSE WAS HERE THIS MORNING BUT YOU
6:49:57PM GUYS AND I TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THE PEOPLE COMPLAINING THAT
6:50:01PM THERE'S NOT A FENCE AROUND THE CEMETERY THEY WERE TALKING
6:50:03PM ABOUT.
6:50:04PM I'M NOT EVEN SURE.
6:50:05PM IT MIGHT BE THE ONE ABUTTING THIS ONE.
6:50:07PM I JUST REALLY, REALLY DESPERATELY WANT TO SEE THE SIDEWALKS
6:50:11PM ON HERE.
6:50:12PM I DESPERATELY WANT TO SEE WHERE THIS TURNAROUND IS GOING TO
6:50:16PM BE.
6:50:17PM AND IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
6:50:19PM LIKE I SAID, I THOUGHT, OH, IS THIS A PD, BECAUSE PDs
6:50:24PM DON'T HAVE TO HAVE OR LAND USE CHANGE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO
6:50:28PM HAVE A SITE PLAN, BUT NOTHING IS ON HERE THAT IS SUPPOSED TO
6:50:31PM BE ON HERE.
6:50:33PM LIKE MS. MARTIN SAID, SHE CHECKED ON THE 7th AND I LOOKED
6:50:36PM THIS EVENING AND THIS WAS THE LAST PLAN I SAW.
6:50:39PM AND IF THERE WAS A BUILDING ON THIS PLAN, THEN IT WOULD HAVE
6:50:45PM TO BE THERE.
6:50:46PM THE SIDEWALKS WOULD HAVE TO BE THERE.
6:50:47PM THE DRIVEWAY WOULD HAVE TO BE THERE.
6:50:49PM WHY IS THIS EXEMPT?
6:50:52PM BECAUSE THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE BUILT.
6:50:55PM REALLY EASY TO PUT THOSE THINGS IN, AND WE NEED FENCES.
6:50:58PM I'M SORRY.
6:50:59PM MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CODE FOR CEMETERIES WHEN
6:51:01PM WE REZONE FOR CEMETERIES BECAUSE THE FENCE NEEDS TO BE
6:51:04PM BUILT.
6:51:05PM IT SHOULD NOT BE THE CITY DISHING OUT A HALF A MILLION
6:51:08PM DOLLARS FOR A FENCE LIKE THE ONE WE DISCUSSED THIS MORNING.
6:51:11PM THANK YOU.
6:51:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:51:18PM ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
6:51:19PM I THINK THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT.
6:51:21PM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
6:51:22PM YES, MA'AM.
6:51:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
6:51:29PM ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTERS MENTIONED THE FACT THAT ONCE IT
6:51:38PM IS A PD IT COULD BE ANYTHING, BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
6:51:42PM >> NO, MA'AM, THAT IS INCORRECT.
6:51:44PM THE PERSON THAT WAS SPEAKING FROM THE PUBLIC WAS INCORRECT.
6:51:46PM IT CANNOT BE ANYTHING.
6:51:48PM THE PD LIMITS YOU TO WHAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO.
6:51:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT
6:51:54PM I'M CURIOUS, WHERE DO PEOPLE PARK RIGHT NOW WHEN THEY GO TO
6:51:58PM THE CITY'S CEMETERY?
6:52:01PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: I DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE.
6:52:02PM CAN I ONLY SPECULATE THEY WOULD PROBABLY PARK IN THE DRIVE
6:52:05PM AISLE THAT HAS ACCESS.
6:52:06PM I ASSUME MAYBE BECAUSE THE ONLY ACCESS TO MARTI-COLON IS OFF
6:52:11PM COLUMBUS DRIVE.
6:52:12PM UNLESS YOU WERE TRESPASSING THROUGH THIS PROPERTY TO GET
6:52:16PM THERE AND PARKING ON THE STREET, THEN THE ONLY WAY TO ENTER
6:52:19PM IT AND PARK WOULD BE PROBABLY JUST AS MR. MANASSE SHOWED
6:52:23PM THAT HE DRIVES HIS VEHICLE DOWN THERE, THEN PARKS AND GETS
6:52:26PM OUT, EFFECTIVELY BLOCKING THE DRIVE AISLE.
6:52:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHICH IN MY EXPERIENCE IN A CEMETERY IS HOW
6:52:33PM IT'S WORKED AS WELL.
6:52:34PM THEN I HAVE A QUESTION.
6:52:36PM IT SEEMS TO BE CENTERING ON THE QUESTION OF WHY CAN'T A
6:52:40PM PRIVATE CEMETERY USE A PUBLIC CEMETERY'S ACCESS.
6:52:44PM WHY CAN'T A PRIVATE ENTITY USE PUBLIC ENTITY'S ACCESS?
6:52:51PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: I'M NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD
6:52:53PM RESTRICT.
6:52:54PM THAT SOUNDS MAYBE MORE LEGAL AND SOMETHING THAT THE CITY AND
6:52:56PM THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH
6:52:59PM SOME TYPE OF EASEMENT LIKE THAT.
6:53:00PM I DON'T WANT TO PUT LEGAL ON THE SPOT BECAUSE MAYBE THAT'S
6:53:02PM INCORRECT.
6:53:03PM I HONESTLY COULD NOT GIVE YOU A VERY WELL DETAILED ANSWER AS
6:53:06PM TO WHAT THE CASE IS ON THAT.
6:53:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE IT.
6:53:09PM THEN I WILL ASK LEGAL.
6:53:10PM I WILL PUT THEM ON THE SPOT AND ASK, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO
6:53:13PM BE THE CRUX OF WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY.
6:53:17PM WHY CAN'T A PRIVATE ENTITY USE PUBLIC ENTITY'S ACCESS?
6:53:28PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT, FOR THE RECORD.
6:53:31PM I DON'T RECALL THAT COMING UP FOR DISCUSSION AT DRC.
6:53:36PM TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS A DESIRE FOR ACCESS OVER THAT
6:53:40PM RIGHT-OF-WAY, THAT IS A DISCUSSION THAT CAN OCCUR WITH THE
6:53:44PM MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
6:53:46PM IF IT'S ACCEPTABLE TO THE CITY, THAT LANGUAGE WOULD BE
6:53:48PM WORKED OUT AS A CONDITION ON THE SITE PLAN AND AN EASEMENT
6:53:51PM WOULD BE RECORDED.
6:53:54PM I DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE AT THIS POINT JUST BECAUSE THE
6:53:57PM CITY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, HAS NOT BEEN APPROACHED WITH REGARD
6:54:01PM TO THAT POSSIBILITY.
6:54:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
6:54:05PM WHAT ARE THE HOURS AND DAYS THAT THIS CEMETERY IS OPEN TO
6:54:13PM THE PUBLIC?
6:54:14PM I'M SORRY, THE CITY CEMETERY IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
6:54:19PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: I HONESTLY DO NOT KNOW THAT.
6:54:21PM BUT I WOULD IMAGINE, AS WITH OTHER CEMETERIES LIKE THE ONE
6:54:24PM IN DOWNTOWN FROM HERE, IT IS DUSK TO DAWN.
6:54:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EVERY SINGLE DAY?
6:54:28PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: I WOULD IMAGINE SO.
6:54:30PM AT LEAST MY FAMILIARITY INTERACTING WITH THE CEMETERY
6:54:33PM DOWNTOWN FROM WHERE I USED TO LIVE, IF IT WAS IN THE MORNING
6:54:36PM TIME, SUNRISE TO SUNSET.
6:54:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE MIGHT HAVE AN ANSWER FROM
6:54:40PM THE CITY'S WEBSITE.
6:54:42PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: 8 A.M. TO 6 P.M.
6:54:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SEVEN DAYS A WEEK?
6:54:45PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: YES, MA'AM.
6:54:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY QUESTION TO MAKE SURE
6:54:49PM THERE WAS ACCESS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
6:54:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
6:54:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KIND OF ALONG THE SAME LINE BUT MAYBE 180
6:54:54PM DEGREES OFF AND FOR LEGAL, CATE, ARE YOU AWARE OF EXAMPLES
6:55:05PM WHERE CITY-OWNED PROPERTY ROADS ARE USED TO ACCESS PRIVATELY
6:55:11PM HELD?
6:55:11PM LIKE IF McDONALD'S WANTED TO PUT A McDONALD'S HERE,
6:55:14PM COULD YOU SEE US GIVING THEM PERMISSION TO DRIVE THROUGH --
6:55:20PM >>CATE WELLS: PUBLIC ROADS ARE PUBLIC ROADS.
6:55:21PM I CAN'T DISCUSS -- I CAN'T SAY THAT.
6:55:25PM AGAIN, THIS ISSUE DID NOT COME UP.
6:55:27PM THE CITY HASN'T BEEN APPROACHED.
6:55:29PM I'M THE LAST PERSON WHO WANTS TO SPECULATE JUST TO GIVE YOU
6:55:32PM AN ANSWER.
6:55:32PM THAT WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO THIS COUNCIL.
6:55:35PM IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR TO THE APPLICANT.
6:55:37PM TO THE EXTENT THAT THERE IS -- I THINK THE QUESTIONS ARE
6:55:41PM WHETHER THERE IS THE ABILITY FOR ACCESS TO THIS PARCEL IS IT
6:55:48PM BY RIGHT OVER THE ACCESS ON MARTI-COLON, ALTERNATIVELY, IF
6:55:53PM IT'S NOT BY RIGHT, THEN WOULD THERE BE THE ABILITY TO
6:55:56PM NEGOTIATE AN EASEMENT WITH THE CITY?
6:55:58PM BUT THOSE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR WITH
6:56:01PM THE RESPECTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL.
6:56:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU SAY BY RIGHT.
6:56:06PM ELIMINATE THE EXISTING CEMETERY COMPLETELY AND WE LOOK AT
6:56:09PM THIS PARCEL OF LAND.
6:56:11PM IF THEY WANTED TO DEVELOP THIS PARCEL OF LAND BY RIGHT, WHAT
6:56:14PM WOULD BE THEIR ACCESS PRIVILEGES.
6:56:16PM >>CATE WELLS: WHAT THEY HAVE REPRESENTED TO COUNCIL IS
6:56:20PM ACCESS OVER MATANZAS AND WEST SAINT JOHN.
6:56:23PM THOSE ARE PUBLICLY DEDICATED ROADS.
6:56:27PM WHAT I CAN'T SPEAK TO IS WITH REGARD TO THE ACCESS FROM
6:56:30PM COLUMBUS.
6:56:30PM I'M NOT PREPARED TO SPEAK TO WHAT THAT ACCESS IS.
6:56:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ELIMINATE THAT COMPLETELY.
6:56:35PM SO THAT CEMETERY DOESN'T EXIST.
6:56:37PM THAT'S A BERLIN WALL THERE.
6:56:40PM AND WE'RE DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY INDEPENDENTLY, THEY WOULD
6:56:43PM BY RIGHT HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH OF THE ROADS TO DEVELOP THIS
6:56:46PM PROPERTY.
6:56:46PM >>CATE WELLS: THOSE ARE PUBLIC ROADS.
6:56:48PM THE ISSUE THEN IS THE FACT THAT CERTAIN USES REQUIRE ACCESS
6:56:52PM TO AN ARTERIAL OR A COLLECTOR ROAD AND WOULD REQUIRE A
6:56:57PM WAIVER FOR ACCESS OVER A LOCAL ROAD.
6:56:59PM MR. BENTLEY BROUGHT UP THE SEPARATE LEGAL ISSUE AS TO IF YOU
6:57:03PM DENY THAT WAIVER, THEN ARGUABLY THIS PARCEL IS LAND LOCKED.
6:57:08PM AND THERE ARE LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO THAT.
6:57:11PM AGAIN, NOT PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT THIS EVENING.
6:57:18PM I RECALL SOME OF THE CASES I WOULD NOT WANT TO ADDRESS THAT
6:57:24PM ISSUE IN DETAIL WITHOUT FURTHER RESEARCH.
6:57:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS WHAT I WAS GETTING AT, THE LAND
6:57:30PM LOCKED QUESTION.
6:57:31PM VERY GOOD.
6:57:31PM THANK YOU.
6:57:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
6:57:32PM I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
6:57:36PM BEFORE YOU GET INTO REBUTTAL, THIS IS JUST SOMETHING TO
6:57:39PM THINK ABOUT.
6:57:40PM IT APPEARS TO ME FROM PUBLIC COMMENT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD
6:57:44PM IS OPPOSED TO THIS.
6:57:46PM SOME FOLKS SPOKE WITH SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS.
6:57:53PM WOULD THE PETITIONER BE OPEN TO JUST HAVING ACCESS THROUGH
6:57:57PM COLUMBUS AND ELIMINATING THAT -- WHAT IS IT, SAINT JOHN
6:58:01PM ACCESS AND JUST EXTENDING THE ROAD AND CREATING LIKE A
6:58:04PM CIRCULAR CONNECTOR THERE OR NO?
6:58:07PM >> NO, THEY WOULDN'T.
6:58:08PM FIRST OF ALL, TO CHARACTERIZE IT AS A ROAD, YOU WON'T SEE IT
6:58:12PM ON ANY MAP.
6:58:13PM IT IS A PATH AT BEST.
6:58:14PM AND THERE ARE TECHNICAL STANDARDS WHICH APPARENTLY THE CITY
6:58:16PM IS SUGGESTING, THEY DON'T HAVE TO ADHERE TO, BUT THROUGH THE
6:58:19PM ZONING PROCESS, WE HAD TO ADHERE TO.
6:58:22PM IT'S REAL IMPORTANT -- AND THE RABBI DIDN'T GET THE
6:58:26PM OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT IT -- BUT IN THE JEWISH FAITH, FOR
6:58:29PM THEM TO DRIVE THROUGH WHAT IS PRIMARILY A CATHOLIC CEMETERY
6:58:32PM TO GET TO THE JEWISH CEMETERY IS CONSIDERED DISRESPECTFUL.
6:58:37PM OKAY.
6:58:37PM I'M JUST TELLING IT LIKE IT IS.
6:58:39PM ALSO, IT WOULD IMPEDE OR ELIMINATE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM
6:58:44PM GOING TO THE CEMETERY OR, YOU KNOW, JUST USING IT FOR THEIR
6:58:49PM LOVED ONES, WHAT HAVE YOU.
6:58:51PM I THINK THE POINT THAT MR. CLENDENIN MADE IS FORGET ABOUT
6:58:58PM THIS ZONING, YOU'VE GOT RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
6:59:01PM YOU'VE GOT THE COMMERCIAL ZONING.
6:59:04PM THESE PROPERTIES ARE ENTITLED TO ACCESS THROUGH THAT
6:59:07PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
6:59:08PM AND I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PUSH-BACK BECAUSE YOU COULD
6:59:10PM HAVE SO MUCH TRAFFIC GENERATED BY THE USES THAT ARE
6:59:14PM AUTHORIZED AS WE SPEAK VERSUS THIS, WITH AN OCCASIONAL
6:59:20PM FUNERAL, MAYBE TWO AT BEST.
6:59:22PM FUNERALS THAT LAST AN HOUR, 20 CARS THERE.
6:59:25PM PARKING ON-SITE.
6:59:26PM THE SIDEWALK ISSUE, THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLY ON.
6:59:28PM THAT IS A NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN.
6:59:30PM CERTAINLY WE'LL COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 22.
6:59:32PM I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION.
6:59:35PM TO GET BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, THEY WOULD NOT CONSIDER THAT.
6:59:38PM THEY ARE ENTITLED TO ACCESS TO THESE CONTIGUOUS PUBLIC
6:59:40PM ROADS.
6:59:41PM ONE OR THE OTHER OR BOTH.
6:59:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU MENTIONED THAT IN THE FAITH IT WOULD
6:59:47PM BE CONSIDERED DISRESPECTFUL HAVING TO DRIVE THROUGH A
6:59:49PM CATHOLIC SECTION INTO THE JEWISH SECTION, WHETHER IT'S TRUE
6:59:55PM OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
6:59:56PM THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD OF IT.
6:59:58PM I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT.
7:00:02PM >> IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND THE RABBI, GIVE HIM A SEC.
7:00:07PM >> MENDI DUBROWSKI.
7:00:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
07:00:15PM >> I WANT TO SAY ALSO THAT THE HOURS ARE A CONSIDERATION
07:00:18PM BECAUSE YOU ARE LIMITING YOUR AVAILABILITY.
07:00:21PM FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT CEMETERY IS CLOSED, AND COULD BE
07:00:25PM AN EARLY MORNING -- YOU WANT TO DO AN EARLY MORNING FUNERAL
07:00:28PM OR LATER IN THE EVENING FUNERAL.
07:00:30PM SUNRISE CAN HAPPEN BEFORE AND 8:00, AND SUNDOWN CAN HAPPEN
07:00:36PM AFTER 6:00.
07:00:37PM YOU CAN NOT OFFER THAT.
07:00:39PM THE CEMETERY BEING THE IDEAL USE.
07:00:42PM YOU WILL HAVE LIMITED ACCESS TO YOUR CEMETERY.
07:00:45PM LIMITED AVAILABILITY.
07:00:46PM THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO VISIT IS LIMITED AROUND
07:00:50PM THOSE PARAMETERS, AND THAT IS WHAT CREATES THIS INHERENT
07:00:54PM CHALLENGE.
07:00:55PM ON THE JEWISH PART OF IT, YEAH, THE REALITY OF IT IS,
07:00:58PM DRIVING THROUGH A CEMETERY THAT IS NOT DEDICATED TO OUR
07:01:01PM PEOPLE -- PEOPLE WOULDN'T GO INTO THE CEMETERY AT ALL AND
07:01:05PM THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE FUNERAL
07:01:07PM PROCESSION OR ATTEND GRAVE SITES BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T ENTER
07:01:11PM INTO A CEMETERY OF ANOTHER RELIGIOUS NATURE.
07:01:14PM ESSENTIALLY IT IS LIKE HALLOWED GROUND.
07:01:16PM IF THEY WOULDN'T PARTICIPATE IN A CHURCH SERVICE, THEY
07:01:20PM WOULDN'T ENTER INTO A CATHOLIC CEMETERY.
07:01:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOUR HAND IT UP AND
07:01:27PM THEN COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
07:01:29PM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. BENTLEY, TO THE RIGHT -- I AM NOT
07:01:32PM LANDLOCKING -- YOU USED A DIFFERENT TERM EARLIER.
07:01:35PM SO COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
07:01:38PM AND THEN ALSO THE -- ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS
07:01:42PM MENTIONED THAT THEY HAD TALKED TO YOU ALL LIKE A YEAR AGO OR
07:01:46PM SOME TIME AGO OF TRYING TO FIND SOME ALTERNATIVE ROUTE IN
07:01:49PM AND OUT, BUT THEN NOBODY FOLLOWED UP WITH THEM.
07:01:52PM >> THAT IS NOT TRUE.
07:01:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT.
07:01:56PM >> RYAN HAS BEEN HANDLING THAT AND HAS BEEN THROUGH IT FOR A
07:01:59PM NUMBER OF YEARS.
07:02:00PM SAME WITH ME.
07:02:01PM HE HAD BACK-AND-FORTH DIALOGUE AND CONSIDERATION WITH THE
07:02:05PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:02:05PM THE ISSUE OF SIDEWALKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT AS A RESULT
07:02:10PM OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, IT DIDN'T LAST TOO LONG, YOU WOULD
07:02:14PM SAY.
07:02:14PM IT WASN'T ONGOING BECAUSE THE ONLY ISSUE THAT CRYSTALIZED
07:02:21PM IS ACCESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN MATANZAS OR ST. JOHN'S.
07:02:26PM IT WASN'T DIALOGUE.
07:02:28PM WE SENT OUT A NOTICE.
07:02:30PM WE ARE GOOD AT REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOING
07:02:32PM THROUGH THAT EXERCISE AND GETTING INPUT FROM THEM, YOU KNOW.
07:02:36PM ONE THING I WANT TO MENTION TO YOU.
07:02:37PM YOU HAVE YOUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNER SITTING RIGHT HERE.
07:02:40PM YOU SHOULD ASK THEIR PROFESSIONAL OPINION ABOUT ACCESS
07:02:46PM THROUGH THE CEMETERY FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT OR ANY
07:02:49PM TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
07:02:50PM YOU CAN'T FORCE A DEVELOPER WHO HAS CONTIGUOUS PUBLIC ROADS
07:02:55PM TO GO THROUGH PRIVATE PROPERTY ON SOME SUBSTANDARD LANE.
07:02:58PM YOU KNOW, THEY ARE MAKING US DEVELOP A CEMETERY DRIVE 20
07:03:03PM FEET.
07:03:03PM AND THE CITY IS GOING TO TURN AROUND FOR THE SAKE OF
07:03:06PM EXPEDIENCE TO APPEASE SOME NEIGHBORS?
07:03:09PM IT HAS GOT TO BE ON YOUR PROPERTY BUT COME ON THROUGH,
07:03:13PM YOU CAN GO ON OUR EIGHT-FOOT LANE AND GO OUT TO COLUMBUS,
07:03:17PM YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT BARELY HAS ANY ASPHALT
07:03:22PM IN SOME PLACES.
07:03:22PM IF THE CITY WANTS TO WIDEN THE ROAD 20 FEET AND TAKE CARE OF
07:03:27PM THE ENTRANCE AND PERMITTING, MAYBE SOMETHING WE WILL
07:03:30PM CONSIDER.
07:03:30PM THEY CAN'T WIDEN IT BECAUSE THERE ARE GRAVES GOING UP TO THE
07:03:34PM EIGHT-FOOT ROAD ON A LARGE SPAN -- I CALL IT A ROAD -- ON
07:03:39PM THIS PATH.
07:03:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: WAS THERE NO OTHER SOLUTION BESIDES THOSE
07:03:46PM TWO?
07:03:47PM >> NO, WE TOOK THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS LIKE RYAN MENTIONED
07:03:50PM WHEN WE MAPPED OUT THE -- THE LINEAL FOOTAGE GOING
07:03:56PM TO MATANZAS AND GOING TO ST. JOHN'S.
07:03:59PM THAT WAS THE BETTER OPTION, 500 FEET SMARTER OR SOMETHING
07:04:02PM LIKE THAT.
07:04:02PM WE ARE TALKING OF MAYBE TWO FUNERALS A MONTH THAT LAST AN
07:04:06PM HOUR.
07:04:06PM THEY ARE GONE.
07:04:07PM ALL RIGHT.
07:04:07PM A VERY SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY, AND I AM NOT AN EXPERT ON
07:04:11PM CEMETERY LAW OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT OR THE OPERATIONS, BUT IT
07:04:14PM IS NOT GOING TO BE OPERATION PROBABLY ALL THAT LONG, YOU
07:04:18PM KNOW, FOR A FEW YEARS AT BEST.
07:04:19PM AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE SELF-CONTAINED ON-SITE.
07:04:23PM THE PARKING AND ALL THAT.
07:04:25PM NOT GOING TO BE ANY PARKING OR RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
07:04:28PM WE HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING.
07:04:29PM THE SITE PLAN LOOKS PRETTY VAGUE BUT TALKING TO THE CEMETERY.
07:04:34PM YOU TALK TO LACHONE, WE MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A PD.
07:04:39PM AND SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE READING THE ERROR OR OMISSION
07:04:44PM OR THE CHANGE LIST FOR HAD REVISED SITE PLAN AND WHAT HER
07:04:47PM READING AND ALL OF THAT WILL BE ON THE SITE PLAN IF WE MAKE
07:04:50PM IT TO SECOND READING.
07:04:51PM ANYHOW, ENOUGH SAID.
07:04:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU HIT ON QUITE A BIT OF WHAT I WAS GOING
07:04:56PM TO ASK ABOUT.
07:04:57PM FIRST, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT CONCEPTUAL STORMWATER POND.
07:05:04PM THE CITY MAKES YOU PUT -- WHEN YOU DO A PD, YOU HAVE TO
07:05:09PM ACCOMMODATE STORMWATER.
07:05:10PM RUSSELL, OUR PLANNER ENGINEER.
07:05:13PM >> RUSSELL LAUTENBERG.
07:05:17PM THE REASON WE PUT CONCEPTUAL BECAUSE WE ARE NOT DOING
07:05:21PM ENGINEERING AT THIS POINT.
07:05:21PM TO DO ENGINEERING YOU NEED TOPOGRAPHY.
07:05:25PM GEOTECHNICAL WORK.
07:05:26PM SOIL BORINGS.
07:05:28PM TESTS.
07:05:29PM WE NEED HORIZONTAL AND VERTICAL CONDUCTIVITY, CHECK THE
07:05:36PM OUTFALL, DOWNSTREAM CONDITIONS.
07:05:37PM ALL OF THAT IS WAY -- NO PUN INTENDED -- DOWN STREAM IN A PD
07:05:45PM ZONING.
07:05:45PM SOMETHING WE ADDRESS DURING PERMITTING WHEN GOING THROUGH
07:05:48PM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES.
07:05:49PM THAT IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO DO THAT AND WE CUSTOMARY DO
07:05:53PM THAT.
07:05:53PM WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITHIN THE CITY WHERE WE DO LAND
07:05:57PM DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND SO FORTH.
07:05:58PM WE WILL DO IS THAT AT THAT TIME.
07:05:59PM WHAT WE HAVE DONE ON THIS PD SITE PLAN IS OUTLINE 20% OF THE
07:06:04PM OVERALL PROPERTY DEDICATED TO STORMWATER, WHICH AT THIS
07:06:08PM LEVEL OF PLANNING IS NORMAL AND CUSTOMARY FOR PROJECTS.
07:06:13PM THAT IS WHAT WE DO THROUGHOUT THE STATE WHEN DOING
07:06:16PM CONCEPTUAL SITE PLANS FOR PD SITE PLANS.
07:06:19PM WE ALLOCATE 20% OF THE SITE.
07:06:21PM THE LOCATION OF THAT MAY VARY AND CHANGE.
07:06:24PM THE CONFIGURATION MAY CHANGE SOMEWHAT BASED ON TOPOGRAPHY,
07:06:29PM TREES, OTHER THINGS, INTERNAL DRIVES.
07:06:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UNCLE.
07:06:33PM WAY TOO MUCH INFORMATION.
07:06:34PM [LAUGHTER]
07:06:36PM MR. BENTLEY, SO YOU ALREADY KIND OF ANSWERED THIS, BUT I
07:06:39PM WANT TO CLARIFY THIS.
07:06:41PM YOUR INTENTION BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING TO INCLUDE
07:06:43PM ON THE SITE PLAN THE SIDEWALK LOCATION AND WIDTH?
07:06:49PM >> YEAH, LET ME -- THAT'S CORRECT, RIGHT, RUSSELL?
07:06:53PM >> YES, WE WILL ADD ALL OF THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE -- THAT ARE
07:06:56PM ENUMERATED IN THE STAFF REPORT TO BE INCLUDED BETWEEN FIRST
07:07:00PM AND SECOND READING SO IT WILL SHOW THE SIDEWALKS, THE WIDTH
07:07:03PM AND LOCATION.
07:07:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TALK TO ME ABOUT A FENCE AND WHAT THAT --
07:07:06PM WHAT THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
07:07:09PM READING?
07:07:10PM >> WELL, WE HAVE THE TWO OPTIONS, PVC AND WROUGHT IRON.
07:07:14PM >> NOT GOING TO BE PVC.
07:07:16PM >> WE CAN COMMIT THAT TO THE OPTION AND COMMIT TO THE WROUGHT
07:07:20PM IRON.
07:07:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND NOTING --
07:07:23PM >> IRON TYPE THEY CALL IT.
07:07:24PM SOMETIMES ALUMINIUM THAT LOOKS LIKE WROUGHT IRON.
07:07:28PM NOT A PROBLEMS.
07:07:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT A PROBLEM.
07:07:33PM AND TRANSPORTATION EXPERTS, WILL YOU BE FOLLOWING COME AND
07:07:37PM TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION?
07:07:39PM >> SORRY, JONATHAN.
07:07:40PM >>JONATHON SCOTT: JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION.
07:07:43PM DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION --
07:07:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS YOUR POINT.
07:07:49PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION.
07:07:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE TESTIMONY OF THE APPLICANT IS THAT
07:07:55PM THERE IS A PROBLEM -- PARCEL WITH THE TERM "LANDLOCKED."
07:08:02PM AND MOBILITY ISSUES WITH ACCESS.
07:08:04PM CAN YOU STATE WHAT THE CITY'S POSITION IS AS FAR AS ACCESS
07:08:07PM TO THIS PARCEL?
07:08:09PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: YES, BASICALLY RIGHT NOW IT FACES THOSE TWO LOCAL
07:08:13PM STREETS.
07:08:13PM THERE IS NO, LIKE, CROSS-ACCESS AGREEMENTS WITH THE CITY
07:08:17PM OWNED PROPERTY TO THE NORTH THAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.
07:08:19PM ANY NEW DISCUSSIONS WOULD BE EVEN MORE OF A LEGAL ASPECT
07:08:23PM THAT I CAN'T REALLY GET INTO.
07:08:25PM BUT THAT IS HOW IT EXISTS TODAY.
07:08:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOBILITY'S POSITION IS ACCESS TO THE
07:08:31PM STREET -- TWO STREETS THAT ABUT THIS?
07:08:34PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: THAT'S CORRECT.
07:08:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
07:08:35PM APPRECIATE IT.
07:08:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
07:08:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO SAY, UNDER THE LAND DEVELOPMENT
07:08:48PM 27-136.
07:08:49PM CEMETERY 85,000 SQUARE FEET, ONE.
07:08:54PM AND OFF OF A COLLECTOR AND INTERIOR ROAD, TWO.
07:08:58PM AND THREE, A 30-FOOT SETBACK?
07:09:01PM MAYBE I AM SPEAKING OF THE WRONG THING.
07:09:03PM >> HERE IS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN.
07:09:05PM HALF THE PROPERTY -- I WILL CALL IT HALF -- HALF CG
07:09:09PM CEMETERIES ARE PERMITTED WITHOUT ANY MINIMUM LOT SIZE, ANY
07:09:13PM SETBACKS FOR GRAVES AND ALL THAT STUFF THAW JUST MENTIONED.
07:09:15PM THE OTHER PART IS RS-50, AND THAT ALLOWS A CEMETERY AS A
07:09:20PM SPECIAL USE.
07:09:20PM THAT IS WHEN THESE STANDARDS KICK IN, MR. MIRANDA, THAW READ
07:09:25PM ABOUT THE MINIMUM SIZE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
07:09:28PM QUESTION NUMBER ONE IS, IF YOU ARE DOING A PD, YOU ARE
07:09:31PM CREATING YOUR OWN ZONING.
07:09:32PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO RESPECT ANY CERTAIN STANDARDS OR ANYTHING
07:09:35PM LIKE THAT.
07:09:35PM FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO MEET OUR STANDARDS,
07:09:37PM BUT THE STAFF SAID WE ARE APPLYING THESE SPECIAL USE
07:09:41PM STANDARDS TO YOUR CEMETERY AND YOU NEED WAIVERS TO THE
07:09:44PM MINIMUM SIZE THAW JUST RATTLED OFF, MR. MIRANDA, AND THE
07:09:49PM SETBACK FOR THE -- FOR THE -- FOR THE GRAVES, I THINK, IS 30
07:09:53PM FEET.
07:09:53PM SO WE REQUESTED A WAIVER TO ZERO ON THAT BECAUSE LIKE YOU
07:09:56PM MENTIONED EARLY ON, THE ENTIRE MARTI COLON, THE GRAVES GO UP
07:10:03PM TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
07:10:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THAT ZONED PD?
07:10:10PM >> IDENTIFY YOURSELF.
07:10:11PM >> RYAN MANASSE, JOHNSON POPE.
07:10:15PM RS-50 AND CG GOES NORTH, CORRECT?
07:10:19PM RM-16 TO THE NORTHERN PART -- MAYBE PUT IT ON THE SCREEN.
07:10:22PM HERE IS STAFF'S ZONING MAP.
07:10:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THOSE FOLKS WERE LONG BEFORE THE ZONING,
07:10:28PM CORRECT?
07:10:29PM >> ZONING CONFORMANCE HAPPENED IN 1987 WHEN THE ZONING
07:10:32PM DISTRICTS WERE OVERLAID ON WHATEVER PROPERTY AND USE.
07:10:36PM THE MARTI COLON CEMETERY PREDATES.
07:10:41PM >> I WANT TO CLARIFY WITH THE RABBI.
07:10:44PM NO MAUSOLEUM.
07:10:45PM IF THERE IS CONCERN OF HAVING A STRUCTURE, THAT IS OFF THE
07:10:48PM TABLE AND WE PUT THAT AS A NOTE ON THE SITE PLAN.
07:10:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
07:10:52PM ALL RIGHT.
07:10:52PM REBUTTAL?
07:10:54PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
07:10:56PM >> NO, GO AHEAD.
07:10:58PM >> IT HAS ALREADY BEEN CLARIFIED.
07:11:00PM BUT I WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, AND THIS WAS MENTIONED
07:11:03PM OVER THE PAST CONVERSATION OF ELEVATIONS AND THINGS ON THE
07:11:06PM SITE PLAN.
07:11:06PM SINCE THERE ARE NO BUILDINGS PROPOSED, ELEVATIONS ARE NOT
07:11:09PM REQUIRED.
07:11:09PM ADDITIONALLY, SINCE THIS IS A CEMETERY USE AND BUILDINGS ARE
07:11:13PM PROPOSED, NOT ANYTHING ON THE SITE PLAN TO SHOW A BUILDING.
07:11:16PM AND THEN LASTLY, IT IS VERY COMMON TO HAVE NOTES ON THE SITE
07:11:20PM PLAN THAT ARE ADDED BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
07:11:23PM ALMOST EVERY PLAN WE BRING YOU DOES HAVE A REVISION SHEET
07:11:27PM THAT ADDS DIFFERENT THINGS ON THE SITE PLAN BETWEEN FIRST
07:11:29PM AND SECOND READING.
07:11:30PM STAFF WILL HAVE A SITE PLAN BEFORE SECOND READING AND MAKE
07:11:34PM SURE THAT THEY ARE COLLECTED.
07:11:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:11:37PM WOULD YOU LIKE GET INTO REBUTTAL?
07:11:40PM >> YES, PLEASE.
07:11:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.
07:11:43PM >> MARK BENTLEY.
07:11:44PM THREE OPPONENTS AND SOME -- APPARENTLY THEY ARE RESIDENTS IN
07:11:48PM THE AREA.
07:11:48PM BUT THESE OPPONENTS, MISS POYNOR LIVES EIGHT MILES AND MISS
07:11:54PM BENNETT ABOUT FOUR MILES AWAY AND MISS MARTEL IS FOUR MILE
07:12:01PM AND WOULDN'T BE AFFECTED BY THE USE OF THE PROPERTY IN
07:12:04PM CONNECTION WITH THE CEMETERY.
07:12:05PM SO CONCERNING THE ACCESS WAIVER, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT IS
07:12:14PM JUST A FORMALITY AS OUR CLIENT IS GUARANTEED ACCESS TO THE
07:12:18PM PUBLIC STREET AND JONATHAN SCOTT, YOUR TRANSPORTATION EXPERT
07:12:22PM CONFIRMED THAT.
07:12:22PM IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY -- AND THE
07:12:26PM CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY TO ELIMINATE USES, THE CLIENT
07:12:30PM CONTRIBUTED TO THE PD WHICH TRIGGERED THE NEED FOR WAIVERS.
07:12:34PM CEMETERY USE IS THE LOWEST TRAFFIC IMPACT ON THE
07:12:37PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:12:37PM SO THE IRONY IS, TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEIGHBORS AND PROVIDE
07:12:42PM THEM CERTAINLY IT IS A CEMETERY AND NOTHING ELSE, THAT
07:12:46PM TRIGGERED THE NEED FOR THE WAIVERS TO DO THE PD.
07:12:50PM IF WE WERE TO SIMPLY COME IN AND DO THE BALANCE OF THE
07:12:52PM PROPERTY, REZONE IT TO CG WHICH THERE WAS SOME STAFF SUPPORT
07:12:56PM ON THAT WHEN WE FIRST INITIATED CONTACT WITH STAFF, WE
07:13:00PM WOULDN'T HAVE TO REQUEST ANY WAIVERS.
07:13:02PM WE KIND OF SHOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT.
07:13:05PM WE WERE TRYING TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY AND NECESSITATED
07:13:07PM THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE WAIVERS WITH THE LOT SIZE, MR.
07:13:10PM MIRANDA, THE SETBACKS, ETC.
07:13:13PM NOW CONCERNING THE WAIVER TO A PUBLIC STREET, HERE, AGAIN,
07:13:16PM ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO GET DIRECT
07:13:19PM ACCESS TO A PUBLIC STREET.
07:13:20PM YOU HEARD OUR TRANSPORTATION PLANNER INDICATE THAT IF THE
07:13:23PM PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED PER THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT AT
07:13:27PM 40,500 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND OR OFFICE THAT WILL
07:13:31PM GENERATE AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS ACCORDING TO THE I.T., THAT THE
07:13:36PM CITY TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT USES OF 1800 TRIPS A DAY.
07:13:39PM 1800 TRIPS A DAY VERSUS SIX TRIPS A DAY FOR THE CEMETERY.
07:13:45PM OKAY.
07:13:46PM SEEING -- YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO.
07:13:49PM ON ONE HAND THIS VERY INNOCUOUS USE, AND LOW TRAFFIC
07:13:54PM GENERATOR, OKAY.
07:13:55PM AND -- AND WE GOT TO HAVE ACCESS TO A PUBLIC ROAD.
07:13:59PM FOR ALL THE REASONS WE HAVE BEEN KICKING AROUND TONIGHT, WE
07:14:03PM CAN'T GO THROUGH TO THE NORTH.
07:14:04PM AND OBVIOUSLY FROM A SAFETY CONCERN, TO FORCE SOMEONE TO GO
07:14:13PM OVER AN EIGHT-FOOT PATH TO GET TO COLUMBUS THROUGH A
07:14:17PM CEMETERY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1895, YOU KNOW, IS -- I
07:14:21PM THINK THERE IS A LIABILITY ISSUE THERE TOO.
07:14:23PM AND QUITE FRANKLY, SINCE WE ARE ENTITLED TO ACCESS, TONIGHT,
07:14:28PM IF THE CITY SAYS WE WILL DENY YOU BASED ON -- CONCERN TO
07:14:32PM ACCESS TO ST. JOHN'S OR MATANZAS, UNDER THE FIFTH AMENDMENT
07:14:37PM OF THE CONSTITUTION AND ARTICLE 6 OF THE FLORIDA
07:14:40PM CONSTITUTION, THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED -- IF YOU DENY ACCESS
07:14:43PM TO THIS PROPERTY, THAT IS CONSIDERED PER SE COMPENSABLE
07:14:46PM TAKING AND THE CITY WILL BE LIABLE FOR BUYING OUR
07:14:52PM CLIENT'S PROPERTY.
07:14:53PM WE ARE ENTITLED TO ACCESS TO A PUBLIC STREET.
07:14:57PM DO YOU IMAGINE IF REZONINGS THIS TO PD, OFFICE OR RETAIL,
07:15:02PM WOULD THERE BE ANY DISCUSSION OF THAT DEVELOPMENT GOING
07:15:04PM THROUGH MARTI COLON CEMETERY TO COLUMBUS?
07:15:08PM NOT AT ALL.
07:15:08PM IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, YOU KNOW.
07:15:10PM IT IS NOT A ROAD.
07:15:11PM SO, RUSSELL.
07:15:14PM WHAT POINTS DO YOU WANT TO MAKE?
07:15:16PM >> YEAH, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS VERY QUICKLY IF I MAY.
07:15:19PM RUSSELL LAUTENBERG, ONCE AGAIN.
07:15:22PM DISCUSSING THE ENTRANCE ON MATANZAS.
07:15:25PM IT IS ALREADY THERE AND NOT RELOCATING IT.
07:15:29PM WE ARE PUTTING IT GENERALLY WHERE IT IS TODAY.
07:15:32PM AS FAR AS PARKING WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE
07:15:35PM MARTI COLON CEMETERY.
07:15:36PM PEOPLE ENTERED IN THIS NEW CEMETERY WILL BE PARKING WITHIN
07:15:40PM THE CEMETERY.
07:15:41PM THE 20-FOOT ACCESS ROAD.
07:15:43PM AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, TALKING OF THE ACCESS TO COLUMBUS
07:15:46PM THROUGH MARDI COLON.
07:15:49PM THAT -- THAT DRIVE IS ABOUT EIGHT FEET WIDE.
07:15:53PM AND AS JONATHAN SAID, IT NEEDS TO BE 20 FOOT FOR -- FOR CITY
07:15:59PM STANDARDS AND I NOTED THOSE STANDARDS ON NATIONAL FIRE
07:16:03PM PROTECTION ASSOCIATION WHICH IS ADOPTED BY YOUR EMERGENCY
07:16:05PM SERVICES.
07:16:06PM AND THE PURPOSE IS SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE SOMEONE PARKED OR
07:16:09PM BLOCKING ONE SIDE AND CAN STILL HAVE AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE GO
07:16:14PM DOWN THE OTHER SIDE.
07:16:15PM SO IT IS AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ISSUE.
07:16:17PM AND AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN BEFORE YOU ON OTHER REZONINGS IN
07:16:22PM THE CITY WHERE ACCESS HAS BEEN THROUGH ALLEYWAYS, IF THE
07:16:26PM ALLEYWAY IS LESS THAN 20 FEET, IT IS TECHNICALLY
07:16:29PM INCONSISTENT WITH THE CITY CODE.
07:16:32PM AND THAT IS NOTED AS PART OF THAT REZONING AND WE OFTENTIMES
07:16:37PM HAVE TO OVERCOME THAT.
07:16:38PM TO SUGGEST THAT USING A EIGHT-FOOT NONALLEY PATH ON --
07:16:43PM THROUGH MARDI COLON AS PRIMARY ACCESS PROVIDES IN THE FACE
07:16:48PM OF WHAT THE CITY HAS.
07:16:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:16:52PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:16:53PM APPRECIATE IT.
07:16:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, MISS DOCK.
07:17:02PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:17:05PM IF YOU APPROVE IT, THERE IS A REVISED REVISION SHEET AND YOU
07:17:09PM WOULD NOTICE THAT REMOVE PVC AND ONLY READ WROUGHT IRON
07:17:15PM FENCING IS PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY SIX FEET EXCEPT ON THE
07:17:20PM SOUTH.
07:17:20PM AND NOTE TOO, NO MAUSOLEUMS ON THE SITE.
07:17:25PM WROUGHT IRON-TYPE FENCE, EXCUSE ME.
07:17:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, I GOT TO SAY.
07:17:31PM I AM REALLY FRUSTRATED AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY.
07:17:33PM WHEN I WAS A KID, IT WAS OVERGROWN AND THE CITY DIDN'T CARE
07:17:38PM ABOUT THE CEMETERY.
07:17:39PM LATER ON.
07:17:40PM WHO OWNS THE CEMETERY.
07:17:41PM WHO OWNS WHAT PART OF THE CEMETERY.
07:17:43PM THEN THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO BUILD HOUSES ON THE CEMETERY.
07:17:46PM NOW THE CEMETERY WANTS TO BE A CEMETERY.
07:17:49PM I KNOW IT IS NOT ABOUT ANYONE AGAINST THE CEMETERY, IT IS
07:17:52PM ABOUT THE ACCESS INTO THE STREET.
07:17:54PM BUT A CEMETERY, HOW ACTIVE CAN IT BE?
07:17:59PM THAT IS THE QUESTION.
07:18:00PM AND THEY BROUGHT THE NUMBERS OF -- YOU KNOW, DAILY TRIPS ON
07:18:03PM THAT PROPERTY.
07:18:03PM I DON'T KNOW.
07:18:06PM I DON'T KNOW.
07:18:07PM I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S CONCERNS.
07:18:09PM YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS THINK IF I LIVE THERE, WHAT IF I LIVE
07:18:13PM THERE?
07:18:13PM HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF YOU LIVE THERE KIND OF THING.
07:18:15PM YOU KNOW, COUNCILMEMBERS DID ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS
07:18:20PM REGARDING THE FENCE.
07:18:21PM REGARDING SIDEWALKS.
07:18:22PM REGARDING THE RETENTION POND.
07:18:26PM REGARDING -- SO MANY THINGS.
07:18:27PM AND I UNDERSTAND WHY -- NOT CONTINUED ACCESS FROM COLUMBUS
07:18:32PM AND JUST CONTINUE ON THAT PATH AND BUILD UPON IT.
07:18:35PM I UNDERSTAND THAT TOO.
07:18:36PM SO I JUST -- I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.
07:18:39PM THANK YOU.
07:18:39PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
07:18:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, I -- ECHOING A LITTLE BIT WHAT WAS
07:18:46PM SAID AND I AM EMPATHETIC WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND MOST OF YOU
07:18:51PM KNOW THAT IN MOST OF MY DECISIONS I AM EMPATHETIC WITH THE
07:18:56PM NEIGHBORS.
07:18:56PM BUT ON THIS ISSUE, I WOULD BE WITH YOU IF THAT PATH OR
07:19:00PM WHATEVER THAT CRUMBLING ASPHALT THROUGH MARDI COLON IS A
07:19:06PM ROAD, BUT IT IS NOT.
07:19:07PM IF A CITY MAINTAINED ROAD UP TO ROAD STANDARDS, I WOULD BE
07:19:11PM RIGHT THERE WITH YOU AND WOULD INSIST THAT THAT ACCESS BE
07:19:15PM THROUGH THAT ROAD.
07:19:16PM BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A ROAD.
07:19:17PM NOT MAINTAINED TO MODERN ROAD STANDARDS, I DON'T THINK WE
07:19:21PM CAN HOLD THE OWNERS OF THIS PARCEL TO USE THAT.
07:19:25PM AGAIN BECAUSE IT IS NOT A CITY ROAD.
07:19:27PM IT IS NOT MAINTAINED AS A CITY ROAD AND DOESN'T MEET MODERN
07:19:32PM ROAD SAFETY STANDARDS.
07:19:33PM I THINK WE HAVE TO GRANT ACCESS TO THE ROAD THAT THESE FOLKS
07:19:36PM HAVE ACCESS TO BECAUSE OF THAT.
07:19:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOTION CLOSE.
07:19:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
07:19:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
07:19:48PM WAIT, ALL IN FAVOR OF CLOSING THE HEARING.
07:19:50PM AYE.
07:19:51PM IS THAT OKAY?
07:19:52PM EVERYBODY GOOD?
07:19:53PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
07:19:55PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, DID YOU LEAVE OFF.
07:19:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: SO I WILL MAKE THE MOTION.
07:20:01PM THIS IS -- I ECHO A LOT OF WHAT IS SAID ON THIS.
07:20:04PM THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT ONE.
07:20:06PM THERE ARE WAIVERS THAT ARE REQUESTED HERE, BUT THE USE WITH
07:20:11PM THIS LOCAL STREET APPEARS TO BE VERY, VERY LIMITED.
07:20:14PM THIS IS ONE BY VIRTUE OF MY MAKING THE MOTION, I WILL BE
07:20:19PM VOTING FOR IT, BUT THIS IS FIRST READING.
07:20:21PM AND I -- AND ON SECOND READING, I DON'T THINK I EVER FLIPPED
07:20:26PM A VOTE FROM FIRST TO SECOND READING, BUT LET'S SEE WHAT IT
07:20:30PM IS.
07:20:30PM AGAIN, THIS IS ONE WHERE THERE IS A LOT OF GRAY.
07:20:33PM AND WE CAN'T LET THE INTENDED USE, WHICH IS NOT IN DISPUTE
07:20:38PM WITH EVERYBODY COME INTO ANY KIND OF RELEVANCY FOR US IN
07:20:42PM MAKING THIS DECISION.
07:20:44PM YEAH, IT'S -- AGAIN, IT IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUE THERE
07:20:48PM IS.
07:20:48PM LET ME FIND MY -- MAY I, PLEASE.
07:20:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 4.
07:20:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SEE THE STATS.
07:20:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: A LOT OF PAPERS HERE.
07:21:00PM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
07:21:03PM CONSIDERATION ORDINANCE OF THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3203 WEST
07:21:07PM ST. JOHN STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
07:21:10PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED SECTION 1 ZONING DISTRICT
07:21:14PM CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL FAMILY AND CG COMMERCIAL
07:21:18PM GENERAL TO PD CEMETERY PROVIDED AN EFFECTIVE DATE AS NOTED.
07:21:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AS AMENDED?
07:21:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: AS AMENDED.
07:21:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY AS FAR AS THE
07:21:30PM BURDEN OF PROOF.
07:21:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: THE APPLICANT HAS MET THEIR BURDEN OF PROOF.
07:21:36PM HAS MET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
07:21:49PM THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE,
07:21:52PM AND I FINDS THAT THE REQUEST OF WAIVERS DO NOT ADVERSELY
07:21:55PM IMPACT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.
07:21:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:22:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
07:22:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
07:22:04PM ANYBODY ELSE YOU WISH TO ADD?
07:22:08PM IF NOT, A ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:22:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SAY, AGAIN, BECAUSE I DIDN'T COMMENT ON
07:22:13PM THE FIRST ROUND.
07:22:13PM I HATE TO GIVE AWAY WHAT I AM THINKING BUT YOU COME IN
07:22:17PM THINKING ONE THING AND AFTER HEARING THE EVIDENCE, YOU HEAR
07:22:20PM SOMETHING ELSE.
07:22:20PM THERE IS A LOT OF GRAY IN THIS ONE.
07:22:22PM YEAH, IF IT WAS A MARGIN, IT WOULD BE 52-48.
07:22:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN -- CARLSON, SORRY.
07:22:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE
07:22:38PM PRESENTED IN THE ROOM.
07:22:38PM NOT ANYTHING THAT WE KNOW FROM OUR OWN EXPERIENCE.
07:22:41PM THE -- THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARGUMENTS WERE VERY COMPELLING.
07:22:46PM AND I THINK COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
07:22:51PM THE APPLICANT, THOUGH, THE -- THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT
07:22:55PM THEN HAD THE LAST WORD AND WAS ABLE TO REFUTE ALL THE
07:22:59PM THINGS.
07:23:00PM UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE COMMUNITY, YOU DON'T GET CHANCE TO
07:23:03PM REBUT, SO WE HAVE TO GO WITH WHAT WE HEAR.
07:23:05PM WE ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY IF -- IF THERE WAS ANYTHING
07:23:09PM CONTRADICTORY TO THAT.
07:23:10PM WE ASKED THE CITY STAFF IF THERE WAS ANYTHING CONTRADICTORY
07:23:14PM TO THAT, AND THERE WASN'T.
07:23:16PM BASED ON THE EVIDENCE WE SEE TONIGHT AND THERE IS A SECOND
07:23:18PM HEARING, BUT BASED ON THE EVIDENCE WE SEE TONIGHT, WE HAVE
07:23:21PM TO GO WITH WHAT THE CONCLUSIONS ARE.
07:23:23PM AND SO, I AM GOING TO VOTE FOR IT TOO.
07:23:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:23:30PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
07:23:31PM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
07:23:34PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
07:23:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:23:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
07:23:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
07:23:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:23:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
07:23:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
07:23:47PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA, MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
07:23:53PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 7, 2024 AT
07:24:00PM 9:30 A.M. LOCATED AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY
07:24:05PM BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
07:24:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:24:10PM WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO TAKE A RECESS?
07:24:13PM OR ARE YOU ALL GOOD?
07:24:16PM OKAY, LET'S DO ITEM NUMBER 5 -- ITEM 5, YES, SIR.
07:24:20PM >> AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT
07:24:30PM COORDINATION.
07:24:30PM REZ 23-118.
07:24:33PM A REQUEST TO REZONE 3110 NORTH TAMPA STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL
07:24:38PM SINGLE-FAMILY 50 TO RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
07:24:41PM I WILL TURN IT OVER TO EMILY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
07:24:46PM >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
07:24:57PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA
07:25:00PM PLANNING DISTRICT, THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN VILLAGE AND THE
07:25:03PM TAMPA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:25:04PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA,
07:25:07PM SPECIFICALLY EVACUATION ZONE E, THE SURROUNDING AREA IS
07:25:11PM PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER WITH SINGLE-FAMILY
07:25:14PM DETACHED USES SURROUNDING THIS SITE, AND ONE BLOCK TO THE
07:25:17PM EAST ALONG NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE IS WHERE SOME -- SOME
07:25:21PM COMMERCIAL USES ARE FOUND.
07:25:21PM THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
07:25:28PM THE SITE IS HERE, DESIGNATED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL-20
07:25:31PM DESIGNATION WHICH IS TO THE NORTH, EAST AND SOUTH OF THE
07:25:34PM SUBJECT SITE AND TO THE WEST IS RESIDENTIAL-10 AND FURTHER
07:25:39PM ALONG NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE IS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35.
07:25:42PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN -- THE RESIDENTIAL-20 DESIGNATION
07:25:45PM SUPPORTS A RANGE OF HOUSING TYPES, INCLUDING SINGLE-FAMILY
07:25:48PM ATTACHED AND MULTIFAMILY USES.
07:25:50PM THE PROPOSED TWO DWELLING UNITS ARE CONSISTENT UNDER THE
07:25:53PM RESIDENTIAL-20 FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
07:25:56PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES INFILL DEVELOPMENT ON
07:26:00PM UNDERUTILIZED SITE TO ENCOURAGE A ADEQUATE HOUSING SUPPLY IS
07:26:04PM AVAILABLE TO MEET TAMPA'S HOUSING DEMANDS.
07:26:06PM TWO BLOCKS FROM A TRANSIT STOP AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
07:26:11PM ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT THROUGH OPTIONS.
07:26:14PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS IT WILL NOT ALTER THE
07:26:18PM SURROUNDING AREA AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SPEAKS TO THE
07:26:20PM DESIGN OF ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS.
07:26:22PM THE ENTRANCES OF THE TWO SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS ARE ORIENTED
07:26:26PM TOWARD NORTH TAMPA AND WEST PLYMOUTH STREET WITH A CLEAR
07:26:29PM PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO THE SIDEWALK MEETING THE INTENT OF
07:26:32PM LAND USE POLICY 9.2.6.
07:26:36PM CONSISTENT REQUEST POLICIES IN THE PLAN WITH A
07:26:39PM PEDESTRIAN-FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT THAT DOORS THAT CONNECT TO
07:26:42PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WALK OR STREET.
07:26:45PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND
07:26:49PM UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ENSURE AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSING
07:26:53PM IS AVAILABLE TO MEET THE NEEDS.
07:26:56PM THE REQUEST ALSO SUPPORTS INFRASTRUCTURE POLICY 1.1.17 WHICH
07:27:02PM DIRECTS THE GREATEST SHARE OF GROWTH OF CITY'S URBAN CENTER
07:27:06PM AND VILLAGES.
07:27:06PM THE SITE IS WITHIN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA AND THE
07:27:10PM APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO WORK WITH CITY OF TAMPA AND OTHER
07:27:12PM REGULATORY AGENCIES TO ENSURE THAT ANY RESIDENTIAL
07:27:15PM DEVELOPMENT MITIGATES IMPACT ON SHELTER SPACE.
07:27:18PM CONSISTENT WITH POLICY DIRECTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
07:27:21PM AND THE PD ENCOURAGES THE PUBLIC REALM AND PROVIDES SAFE
07:27:26PM PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS FROM THE UNITS TO THE SIDEWALKS ALONG
07:27:29PM NORTH TAMPA STREET.
07:27:30PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
07:27:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
07:27:34PM NO?
07:27:35PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:27:35PM YES, SIR, PLEASE GO AHEAD.
07:27:43PM >> I DO HAVE A REVISED REVISION SHEET.
07:27:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME WHEN YOU PRESENT.
07:27:50PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:27:56PM OUTLINE OF THE MAP.
07:27:58PM NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, SOUTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT
07:28:03PM SITE, YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
07:28:05PM ABOUT TWO PARCELS SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, HERE WITHIN
07:28:08PM THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT, A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OPERATING
07:28:13PM WITHIN THE RS-50.
07:28:15PM ONE BLOCK SOUTH OF ADELAIDE, A PLANNED REZONING REZ 21-65
07:28:20PM CURRENTLY FOUR SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED UNITS UNDER
07:28:24PM CONSTRUCTION.
07:28:25PM TO THE EAST RS-50 ZONING, BUT A VARY CAN'T COMMERCIAL
07:28:29PM BUILDING.
07:28:30PM SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
07:28:32PM THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TWO SINGLE-FAMILY -- OR
07:28:36PM SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED UNITS.
07:28:38PM YOU HAVE UNIT ONE AND UNIT TWO HERE.
07:28:41PM AS EMILY MENTIONED PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO THE SIDEWALK ON
07:28:44PM NORTH TAMPA STREET.
07:28:45PM THEY HAVE A FRONT PORCH PROPOSED.
07:28:48PM THE VEHICULAR ACCESS IS PROVIDED FROM THE NORTH ON PLYMOUTH
07:28:54PM STREET.
07:28:54PM GARAGE HERE.
07:28:55PM ACCESS TO UNIT TWO.
07:28:57PM AND UNIT ONE HERE, THIS A COVERED WALKWAY.
07:29:01PM ANYONE WHO LIVES HERE WILL BE ABLE TO WALK OUT OF THEIR
07:29:03PM GARAGE UNDER THE COVERED WALKWAY AND ACCESS THEIR UNIT.
07:29:07PM FOUR PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED AND FOUR ARE PROVIDED.
07:29:10PM THE GARAGES HAVE A FIVE-FOOT SETBACK FROM PRELIMINARY MOUTH
07:29:13PM DUE TO AN OFF-SITE GRAND TREE LOCATED HERE AND A GRAND TREE
07:29:18PM LOCATED HERE AND THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO HAVE LITTLE MORE
07:29:22PM SPACE TO MINIMIZE IMPACT TO THE GRAND TREES.
07:29:26PM THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS 35 FEET OR TWO STORIES.
07:29:28PM HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS.
07:29:33PM SO IN WILL BE YOUR ELEVATION ALONG TAMPA STREET.
07:29:36PM THIS WILL BE YOUR ELEVATION ALONG PLYMOUTH.
07:29:38PM THE REAR ELEVATION AND THEN THE SIDE ELEVATION.
07:29:42PM YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT COVERED WALKWAY THAT I MENTIONED
07:29:45PM HERE.
07:29:45PM AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE GRAND TREES.
07:29:52PM WE WILL GO THROUGH SOME PHOTOS FROM AROUND THE AREA NOW.
07:29:57PM SO THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH.
07:30:00PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE.
07:30:03PM THIS ISN'T AN ALLEY.
07:30:05PM THIS IS A DRIVEWAY FOR THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.
07:30:07PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH.
07:30:11PM FACING THE OTHER DIRECTION WHERE THE OTHER PICTURE WAS
07:30:13PM TAKEN.
07:30:13PM THIS IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM PLYMOUTH.
07:30:16PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON PLYMOUTH.
07:30:18PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
07:30:21PM LITTLE BIT FARTHER DOWN, CLOSER TO TAMPA STREET, THE SUBJECT
07:30:26PM SITE IS HERE.
07:30:27PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH FROM INTERSECTION OF PLYMOUTH AND
07:30:31PM NORTH TAMPA STREET.
07:30:31PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON TAMPA.
07:30:35PM YOU CAN SEE THAT COMMERCIAL BUSINESS RIGHT THERE.
07:30:38PM AND SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED TOWN HOMES IN THE DISTANCE.
07:30:43PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST FROM TAMPA STREET DIRECTLY AT THE
07:30:46PM SUBJECT PROPERTY.
07:30:46PM AND THIS IS LOOKING EAST ACROSS TAMPA STREET AT THAT VACANT
07:30:52PM COMMERCIAL BUILDING IN THE RS-50 ZONING DISTRICT.
07:30:55PM HERE IS THE SITE PLAN AGAIN FOR YOU.
07:31:05PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
07:31:09PM APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT
07:31:12PM CONSIDERING THE SURROUNDING PATTERN.
07:31:14PM THE SEMI-DETACHED HAVE AN APPROPRIATE INFILL IN THE
07:31:18PM TRANSITION FROM THE HEAVILY TRAFFICKED ARTERIAL NORTH TAMPA
07:31:22PM STREET TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY USES LOCATED BEST OF THE SUBJECT
07:31:26PM SITE THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
07:31:27PM AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
07:31:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
07:31:31PM YES, SIR.
07:31:31PM HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN IN?
07:31:34PM >> YES.
07:31:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME UP.
07:31:35PM >> ALEX RIOS, 700 SOUTH HARBOUR ISLAND BOULEVARD.
07:31:41PM GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
07:31:48PM THIS PROJECT CONSISTS REZONING 3110 TAMPA FROM RS-50 TO PD
07:31:58PM SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI DETACHED.
07:32:00PM PROPERTY POSES UNIQUE CONSTRAINTS.
07:32:03PM ONE -- THE MOST NOTABLE CONSTRAINT IS THE LOT IS A LITTLE
07:32:08PM SMALLER THAN USUAL, 48.5 FEET WIDE.
07:32:11PM THE OTHER ARE -- TWO GRAND OAKS -- ONE GRAND OAK WITH
07:32:16PM ANOTHER CAMPHOR ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTY.
07:32:20PM OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH ON THIS SITE HAS MADE GREAT
07:32:23PM EFFORTS TO PRESERVE THE GRAND TREE WITH PUTTING
07:32:28PM A HELICAL PIER.
07:32:29PM OUR DESIGN AIMS TO PRESERVE THAT TREE WITH AN
07:32:34PM UNIQUE L-SHAPED TOWN HOME CONFIGURATION.
07:32:36PM MORE TRADITIONAL TOWN HOME CONFIGURATION A SINGLE DRIVE
07:32:40PM AISLE WITH ACCESS FROM THE BACK TWO GARAGES.
07:32:43PM IN OUR CASE, WE TOOK THE GARAGES AND ROTATED THEM TO FACE
07:32:48PM DIRECTLY TO PLYMOUTH.
07:32:50PM THIS ALLOWS US TO RESPECT THE GRAND OAK, AS WELL AS
07:32:53PM SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS ON-SITE.
07:32:58PM TOTAL -- CURRENTLY WE ARE JUST OVER 50% IMPERVIOUS WHICH IS
07:33:03PM ONE OF THE STANDARDS FOR STORMWATER.
07:33:05PM FURTHERMORE, THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS PLACED FURTHER --
07:33:13PM FARTHER AWAY FROM THE TREE THAN THE CURRENT STRUCTURE.
07:33:15PM THE CURRENT EXISTING STRUCTURE IS REPRESENTED BY THAT DASHED
07:33:19PM LINE.
07:33:19PM IT GOES RIGHT JUST SHY OF THAT FRONT BUILDING, BUT MORE
07:33:24PM IMPORTANTLY, THAT IS WHERE THE CORNER IS RIGHT THERE, THE
07:33:27PM EXISTING STRUCTURE.
07:33:28PM SO WE ARE KEEPING EVEN FURTHER AWAY FROM THE TREE.
07:33:31PM FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT, WE WANT TO KEEP -- WE WANT TO KEEP
07:33:37PM CONSISTENT WITH THE ARCHITECTURE AND FABRIC OF THE
07:33:41PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:33:41PM HERE IS A RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED TWO-STORY
07:33:45PM CRAFTSMAN-STYLE TOWN HOMES OF WHICH FEATURE FRONT PORCHES,
07:33:48PM SIDING, GABLED ROOFS AND A TACTILE PALETTE.
07:33:53PM THIS -- AND WE BELIEVE THIS RUNS IN -- THIS CRAFTSMAN-STYLE
07:34:00PM BLENDS IN WITH THE NEARBY OVERLAY.
07:34:01PM THIS IS NOT A OVERLAY, BUT WE BELIEVE IT BLENDS WITH THE
07:34:05PM NEARBY OVERLAY OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
07:34:07PM IN CONCLUSION, WE ARE PLEASED WITH THE STAFF'S FINDING THAT
07:34:10PM IT IS CONSISTENT WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT.
07:34:11PM AND WE EAGERLY SEEK YOUR APPROVAL.
07:34:13PM THANK YOU.
07:34:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU THE ARCHITECT ON THIS?
07:34:17PM >> OWNER AND ARCHITECT.
07:34:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY NICE DESIGN.
07:34:20PM NICE JOB.
07:34:21PM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
07:34:23PM DO WE HAVE ANY -- YES, MA'AM.
07:34:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL JUST SAY THE SAME THING.
07:34:27PM A VERY UNIQUE SOLUTION.
07:34:29PM AND WE KIND OF COME TO EXPECT THAT FROM YOU.
07:34:32PM AND IT IS JUST UNIQUE.
07:34:33PM THANK YOU FOR SAVING THE TREES.
07:34:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
07:34:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GUESS I HAVE TO SAY IT TOO.
07:34:39PM ANYBODY COMING BEFORE THIS COUNCIL WITH PARCELS THAT THEY
07:34:42PM SAY THEY HAVE TO -- THAT THEY PRESENT THESE PROJECTS THAT WE
07:34:46PM DON'T APPROVE BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO SQUEEZE TOO MUCH
07:34:49PM AND TRYING -- THEY SAY THEY CAN'T BUILD ON A LOT.
07:34:52PM I THINK THEY NEED TO WATCH THIS PRESENTATION.
07:34:54PM AND LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE WITH AN ODD-SIZED LOT.
07:34:57PM IT IS AN APPROPRIATE USE OF A PD.
07:35:00PM AND I THINK YOU HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB.
07:35:02PM I MEAN, IT REALLY IS -- THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I AM LOOKING
07:35:06PM FOR WHEN I AM SEEING THESE KIND OF PROJECTS.
07:35:09PM TAMPA IS AN IMPORTANT STREET.
07:35:10PM AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A STREETCAR RUNNING NOT TOO FAR
07:35:13PM FROM THERE.
07:35:14PM AND IT IS -- IT IS A GREAT LOCATION AND I APPRECIATE WHAT
07:35:17PM YOU HAVE DONE WITH THIS.
07:35:17PM IT IS CREATIVE.
07:35:19PM ALONG WITH THE TREE, BUT WHAT YOU DID WITH THE GARAGES AND
07:35:23PM BREEZEWAY TO ATTACH TO IT AND, OF COURSE, THOSE FACADES ARE
07:35:27PM REALLY PERFECT.
07:35:28PM >> THANK YOU.
07:35:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
07:35:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOVE TO CLOSE -- DO PUBLIC COMMENT.
07:35:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON
07:35:37PM ITEM NUMBER 5?
07:35:38PM NOBODY REGISTERED.
07:35:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WOW.
07:35:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
07:35:43PM >> IF NO FURTHER COMMENT.
07:35:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN
07:35:49PM HENDERSON.
07:35:49PM SECONDED FROM CLENDENIN.
07:35:50PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE.
07:35:52PM LEFT OFF WITH COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
07:35:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CHAIR, I MOVE ORDINANCE REZ 23-18.
07:35:59PM I MOVE THE ORDINANCE AS THE APPLICANT HAS MET THE BURDEN OF
07:36:04PM PROOF FOR COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE
07:36:08PM DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT
07:36:10PM WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE AND I FIND THAT
07:36:12PM THE REQUEST WAIVERS DO NOT ADVERSELY IMPACT THE PUBLIC
07:36:17PM HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE AND THE FINDINGS AND
07:36:21PM REASONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT IN COMPLIANCE WITH
07:36:26PM THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
07:36:28PM THE PROPOSED REZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH 1.3.4 HOUSING
07:36:33PM POLICY WHICH ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND
07:36:37PM UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ENSURE THE ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF HOUSE
07:36:40PM WILLING AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE 27-136, THE DEVELOPMENT AS
07:36:45PM SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN ENCOURAGES DEVELOPMENT LOCATION,
07:36:50PM CHARACTER, COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND
07:36:52PM INCLUDING THE MOTION THAT INCLUDES THE REVISIONS --
07:36:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU READ THE ORDINANCE?
07:36:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE ORDINANCE BEING READ --
07:37:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NUMBER FIVE.
07:37:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE TO READ THE ORDINANCE WITH THE
07:37:04PM DETAILS IN IT?
07:37:07PM NEOPHYTE MISTAKE.
07:37:08PM ORDINANCE ZONING -- LET ME GET IT RIGHT.
07:37:12PM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING.
07:37:15PM THE ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY --
07:37:19PM YOU KNOW I FELL LIKE I WAS DOING SOMETHING WRONG WHEN I
07:37:22PM STARTED WITH THAT PART BUT OKAY, NO PROBLEM.
07:37:25PM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 3110
07:37:29PM NORTH TAMPA STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
07:37:31PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
07:37:36PM CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD
07:37:41PM SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI-DETACHED PROVIDING A SPECIFIC DATE.
07:37:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WITH REVISED REVISION.
07:37:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WITH REVISED SHEET.
07:37:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL.
07:37:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
07:37:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
07:37:57PM OBVIOUS.
07:37:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
07:38:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
07:38:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:38:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
07:38:04PM >> MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
07:38:06PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 7th, 2024
07:38:12PM AT 9:30 A.M. LOCATED AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY
07:38:17PM BOULEVARD TAMPA FLORIDA, 33602.
07:38:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:38:22PM WE WILL BE IN RECESS FOR A FEW MINUTES.
07:38:24PM ALL RIGHT, RECESS FOR -- FOR FIVE MINUTES AND THEN BACK WITH
07:38:28PM 6.
07:38:28PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
07:56:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
07:56:36PM WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
07:56:38PM LET'S GET ROLL CALL.
07:56:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
07:56:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
07:56:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
07:56:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
07:56:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
07:56:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
07:56:50PM >>CLERK: QUESTION A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
07:56:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
07:56:52PM NUMBER 6.
07:56:53PM STATE YOUR NAME.
07:56:54PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
07:56:58PM NUMBER 6, REZ-24-04 TO REZONE 4116 AND 4118 WEST ESTRELLA
07:57:10PM TO RS-60 TO PD RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
07:57:15PM TURN IT OVER TO EMILY WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
07:57:18PM >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
07:57:22PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT
07:57:26PM IN THE PALMA CEIA WEST NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:57:28PM THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA
07:57:34PM EVACUATION ZONE B.
07:57:36PM IT HAS RESIDENTIAL USES TO THE NORTH AND THE EAST AND THE
07:57:39PM WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
07:57:41PM AND TO THE, LIKE, SOUTH AND EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG
07:57:46PM HENDERSON BOULEVARD, EXCUSE ME COMMERCIAL USES AND AN ALLEY
07:57:50PM RIGHT HERE THAT SEPARATES THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL
07:57:53PM USES.
07:57:54PM THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE SUBJECT SITE WHICH IS
07:57:59PM LOCATED HERE UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION, WHICH IS
07:58:02PM TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND ALONG
07:58:07PM HENDERSON IS THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION AND THE
07:58:11PM BLUE IS SCHOOL AND PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.
07:58:17PM THE RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION IS SUITABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL
07:58:21PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED AND LIMITED TOWN HOMES.
07:58:23PM LAND USE POLICY 9.3.5 ENCOURAGES LIMITED TOWN HOMES AND
07:58:29PM SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI-DETACHED USES TO BE DEVELOPED ON A
07:58:32PM PERIPHERY OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
07:58:34PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL USES TO THE EAST
07:58:37PM AND THE ALLEY AS I PREVIOUSLY SHOWED SEPARATES THE SITE FROM
07:58:41PM THE COMMERCIAL USES.
07:58:42PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THAT THE SITE MEETS THE
07:58:46PM POLICY DIRECTION OF LIMITED TOWN HOMES IN THE RESIDENTIAL-10
07:58:49PM DESIGNATION.
07:58:49PM DUE TO THE SITE BEING ON THE PERIPHERY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
07:58:53PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST COMPATIBLE WITH
07:58:55PM THE SURROUNDING AREA AND WILL EXPAND OPPORTUNITIES FOR
07:58:58PM HOUSING CHOICES IN THE PALMA CEIA WEST NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:59:03PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE DENSITY OF THE
07:59:05PM RESIDENTIAL-10 FUTURE LAND USE PARCELS.
07:59:08PM THIS SECTION OF WEST ESTRELLA BETWEEN SOUTH LOIS AND SOUTH
07:59:12PM CLARK AVENUE, EXCLUDING THE SUBJECT SITE, HAS AN EXISTING
07:59:15PM DENSITY OF 1.0 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
07:59:19PM GIVEN THE EXISTING BLOCK DENSITY BEING ON THE PERIPHERY OF
07:59:23PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
07:59:24PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST BUILT WITHIN
07:59:27PM THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
07:59:28PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES ATTACHED SINGLE-FAMILY
07:59:32PM USES TO BE DESIGNED TO INCLUDE ORIENTATION OF FRONT DOORS TO
07:59:35PM A NEIGHBORHOOD SIDEWALK AND STREET.
07:59:36PM THE ENTRANCES OF THE PROPOSED UNIT ARE ORIENTED TOWARD WEST
07:59:42PM ESTRELLA STREET AND SIDEWALK CONNECTION PROVIDED.
07:59:45PM THE ALLEY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO ONE UNIT.
07:59:48PM THE REQUEST SUPPORTS MANY POLICIES WITH HOUSING THE CITY'S
07:59:52PM POPULATION.
07:59:53PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND
07:59:57PM UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ENSURE THAT HOUSING IS POSSIBLE FOR
08:00:01PM PRESENT AND FUTURE POPULATIONS.
08:00:04PM THE SITE WITHIN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA AND THE APPLICANT
08:00:07PM HAS TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND OTHER LEGISLATORY
08:00:11PM AGENCY TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT MITT
08:00:14PM GATES IMPACT ON SHELTER SPACE.
08:00:15PM THE REQUEST IS COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND
08:00:23PM THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
08:00:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:00:28PM MR. SHELBY -- WEIGHT, LEAVE THAT MAP UP THERE.
08:00:30PM SO IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE IT SAYS Z 24-04, UNDER THAT WHITE
08:00:35PM CLOUD, THERE ARE THREE LOTS -- OR THREE PARCEL THERE IS THAT
08:00:40PM ARE THREE OF THE SAME IN THE ROW.
08:00:42PM THE THREE SKINNY ONES FACING HENDERSON.
08:00:44PM THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE IS MY DAD'S STORE.
08:00:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
08:00:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHOULD I RECUSE MYSELF.
08:00:52PM HE RENTS.
08:00:53PM HE DIDN'T TALK TO ME ABOUT IT.
08:00:57PM GROWN HE GOT A NOTICE BECAUSE HE IS -- IT IS RIGHT THERE.
08:01:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OKAY.
08:01:01PM WELL, IT WOULDN'T --
08:01:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T THINK IT WOULD AFFECT ANYTHING.
08:01:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME ASK YOU THIS.
08:01:07PM TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, DOES VERY A FINANCIAL STAKE IN THIS
08:01:12PM APPLICATION ITSELF?
08:01:14PM TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE?
08:01:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST HAS STOREFRONT FOR TEN-PLUS YEARS
08:01:19PM BUT HE RENTS.
08:01:19PM HE DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY.
08:01:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE WHETHER THIS
08:01:23PM WOULD GIVE TO HIS PRIVATE GAIN OR LOSS WHETHER IT IS
08:01:28PM APPROVED OR DENIED?
08:01:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T THINK IT WILL AFFECT HIM AT ALL
08:01:31PM REGARDLESS.
08:01:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU SAY HE DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY.
08:01:34PM HE RENTS IT?
08:01:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE RENTS IT SINCE 2012.
08:01:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAD NO EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS.
08:01:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LOIS MEETS HENDERSON, AND I DIDN'T
08:01:49PM REALIZE LOOKING AT THIS MAP.
08:01:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LOOKING AT THIS, CAN YOU PUT THAT FACT
08:01:54PM ASIDE AND JUDGE THIS APPLICATION SOLELY ON THE EVIDENCE THAT
08:01:58PM THE HEARING?
08:01:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:01:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU ABLE TO BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL IN
08:02:02PM THIS CASE OR DO YOU FEEL YOU WANT TO AVOID AN APPEARANCE OF
08:02:07PM -- OF --
08:02:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.
08:02:11PM MY DAD DOESN'T -- HE IS -- HE DOESN'T CARE ONE WAY OR THE
08:02:16PM OTHER WHICH WAY THIS GOES.
08:02:17PM I JUST DON'T WANT ANY APPEARANCE OF IT.
08:02:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH THAT BEING SAID, I DO NOT SEE A
08:02:23PM CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
08:02:24PM AND AS LONG AS YOU STATE THAT YOU CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL,
08:02:28PM I BELIEVE UNDER FLORIDA LAW, MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION, YOU
08:02:31PM ARE REQUIRED TO PARTICIPATE.
08:02:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL.
08:02:33PM IT -- IT IS OF NO BEARING.
08:02:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DISCLOSED THAT
08:02:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
08:02:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS NOW IN THE RECORD.
08:02:40PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:02:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
08:02:42PM CONTINUE.
08:02:43PM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
08:02:45PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
08:02:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS --
08:02:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
08:02:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CONFLICTED.
08:02:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
08:02:52PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
08:02:57PM PER USUAL, WE WILL START WITH THE AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT
08:03:01PM SITE.
08:03:01PM SO YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE HERE OUTLINED IN RED ON EAST
08:03:05PM -- WEST ESTRELLA STREET.
08:03:06PM NORTH OF THE SUBJECT, WEST OF THE SUBJECT, AND SOUTHEAST OF
08:03:10PM THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:03:10PM YOU HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY 60 ZONING DISTRICT.
08:03:14PM SOUTH AND EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE, COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES
08:03:17PM ALONG HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
08:03:19PM AND IN THE STRIP CENTER RIGHT HERE, A MIX OF A PLANT
08:03:23PM NURSERY, A -- NOT A BOXING -- BUT A GYM.
08:03:25PM SOME RESTAURANTS.
08:03:26PM I THINK A SPORTS BAR.
08:03:27PM QUITE A MISS OF INTENSE COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES ALONG
08:03:32PM HENDERSON BOULEVARD AND THEN A LITTLE BIT AROUND ESTRELLA
08:03:35PM RIGHT HERE.
08:03:36PM AS YOU MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU GET SINGLE-FAMILY
08:03:38PM DETACHED.
08:03:39PM AS YOU GO FARTHER, YOU HAVE MABRY ELEMENTARY.
08:03:44PM COLEMAN MIDDLE SCHOOL HERE.
08:03:47PM AND ANOTHER SCHOOL DOWN TO THE SOUTH, ST. MARY'S DAY SCHOOL.
08:03:50PM WE WILL GO TO THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT NEXT.
08:03:53PM SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TWO SEMI DETACHED STRUCTURES.
08:04:02PM ONE HERE AND ONE HERE.
08:04:03PM ONE UNIT -- UNIT ONE IS HERE.
08:04:07PM UNIT TWO IS HERE, THREE AND FOUR.
08:04:09PM AS EMILY MENTIONED, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS TO THE SIDEWALKS
08:04:12PM ALONG ESTRELLA AVENUE.
08:04:14PM THERE ARE EIGHT PARKING SPACES REQUIRED.
08:04:16PM AND EIGHT ARE BEING PROVIDED.
08:04:17PM UNIT SOMEONE REAR LOADED FROM THE ALLEY, AND UNITS TWO,
08:04:22PM THREE AND FOUR ARE LOADED FROM ESTRELLA STREET.
08:04:26PM USING THE ALLEY ACCESS, THE APPLICANT LOADED FROM ESTRELLA
08:04:30PM NOT TO IMPACT THE TREES IN THE REAR OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:04:33PM LET'S SEE HERE.
08:04:34PM THE PROPOSED HEIGHT IS 35 FEET OR TWO STORIES.
08:04:38PM ADDITION ALLEGEDLY, THE APPLICANT IS PROVIDING THE REQUIRED
08:04:41PM LANDSCAPE BUFFERS.
08:04:44PM UNITS ONE AND TWO ARE APPROXIMATELY 3523 SQUARE FEET EACH.
08:04:49PM AND UNITS TWO AND FOUR ARE APPROXIMATELY -- OR UNITS THREE
08:04:53PM AND FOUR ARE APPROXIMATELY 3713 SQUARE FEET APIECE.
08:04:57PM I WILL SHOW YOU THE ELEVATIONS NOW PROVIDED BY THE
08:05:00PM APPLICANT.
08:05:00PM SO THIS IS THE ELEVATIONS FOR UNIT ONE AND TWO.
08:05:05PM THIS WILL BE THE FRONT, THAT IS FACING ESTRELLA.
08:05:07PM HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS FOR UNITS THREE AND FOUR THE FRONT
08:05:19PM ELEVATION FACING ESTRELLA.
08:05:21PM WE WILL NOW GO TO SOME PICTURES ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:05:24PM SO THIS IS JUST PAST HENDERSON AND ESTRELLA INTERSECTION.
08:05:31PM THIS IS THE ALLEY THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED.
08:05:33PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE.
08:05:35PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHWEST.
08:05:36PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHWEST DOWN THE ALLEY.
08:05:40PM YOU CAN SEE THE BACK SIDE OF THIS COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES
08:05:44PM BACKING UP TO THE ALLEY AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE.
08:05:46PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST.
08:05:48PM SO THIS IS ESTRELLA.
08:05:49PM HENDERSON BOULEVARD RIGHT HERE.
08:05:51PM HERE ARE SOME OF THOSE COMMERCIAL USES ALONG ESTRELLA, THE
08:05:56PM SEABORN DAY SCHOOL.
08:05:58PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON ESTRELLA.
08:06:00PM COMMERCIAL USES IN THE ALLEY.
08:06:03PM HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
08:06:06PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON ESTRELLA.
08:06:08PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THIS HOUSE
08:06:11PM HERE.
08:06:12PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHWEST.
08:06:16PM SO YOU CAN KINDS OF GET A FULL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE
08:06:20PM GOING FROM THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOME ALL THE WAY DOWN
08:06:23PM TO WHERE THOSE PUSHES ARE.
08:06:25PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH DIRECTLY AT THE SUBJECT SITE AND THE
08:06:29PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE THAT WILL BE DEMOLISHED.
08:06:30PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST DOWN ESTRELLA SO YOU CAN SEE THE FULL
08:06:36PM LENGTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:06:37PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH FROM THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:06:41PM THIS WILL BE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
08:06:43PM THAT IS MY LAST PICTURE.
08:06:48PM SO I WILL PUT THE SITE PLAN BACK UP NOW.
08:06:51PM DEVELOPMENT CURED COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED
08:07:04PM THE APPLICATION AND FINDS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND
08:07:09PM DEVELOPMENT CODE.
08:07:09PM IT PROVIDES AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITION FROM THE COMMERCIAL
08:07:12PM GENERAL USES EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE TO ITS RESIDENTIAL
08:07:15PM SEMI-DETACHED USES THAT ARE LOCATED WEST, NORTH AND
08:07:19PM SOUTHWEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE PROVIDING NEEDED INFILL
08:07:21PM HOUSING IN SOUTH TAMPA.
08:07:22PM IF COUNCIL APPROVES THE APPLICATION, MODIFICATIONS ON THE
08:07:26PM SITE PLAN BE ON THE REVERSION SHEET SHOULD BE COMPLETED
08:07:29PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
08:07:30PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
08:07:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
08:07:34PM NO, SIR.
08:07:34PM THANK YOU.
08:07:35PM STATE YOUR NAME -- WAIT.
08:07:40PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:07:41PM >> GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN, COUNCILMEMBERS.
08:07:44PM BRUCE CASTRIC, CERTIFIED PLANNER WITH DESIGN DEVELOPMENTS.
08:07:51PM AMBER FIELD DRIVE.
08:07:53PM I WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITIES FIRST TO
08:07:58PM INTRODUCE ISHMAR AKEBAR.
08:07:59PM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND LIVES ON THE PROPERTY WITH HIS
08:08:02PM WIFE AND WILL BE STAYING ON THE PROPERTY AFTER THE
08:08:04PM DEVELOPMENT DOES OCCUR.
08:08:05PM THE -- ALSO AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR
08:08:09PM WORKING WITH US ON COMING UP WITH A PLAN THAT DOES NOT
08:08:12PM REQUIRE ANY WAIVERS, THAT IS AS POINTED OUT BY THE PLANNING
08:08:16PM COMMISSION AS RES-10.
08:08:21PM OPPORTUNITY OF FIVE UNITS BUT ONLY REQUESTED FOR FOUR.
08:08:25PM THE -- AS BOTH REPORTS, YOU KNOW, HAVE -- FROM DEVELOPMENT
08:08:30PM COORDINATION, PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE FINDS IN THE
08:08:34PM RECOMMENDATIONS.
08:08:34PM WE HAVE REVIEWED THEM.
08:08:36PM WE BELIEVE WE SUPPORT THEM.
08:08:37PM WE RECOMMEND THEM.
08:08:38PM WE WILL MAKE THE CONDITIONS AND REVISIONS AS EXAMINED
08:08:42PM REQUESTED FOR THE SECOND HEARING TO THE PLAN.
08:08:44PM AND WE ARE PREPARED TO MAKE A MORE DETAILED PRESENTATION IF
08:08:47PM IT IS -- SO THE CHOOSING OF THE COUNCIL.
08:08:50PM THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS WHO HAVE NEAR SUPPORT OF THE
08:08:53PM PROJECT.
08:08:54PM AND WHO ALSO HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
08:08:55PM THEY LIVE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AREA SO THEY ARE
08:08:58PM IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT AND ABUTTING TO WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT
08:09:01PM IS GOING TO BE OCCURRING.
08:09:02PM OTHERWISE, MR. AKEBAH.
08:09:07PM WE ARE BOTH HERE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND WE REQUEST
08:09:10PM YOUR SUPPORT.
08:09:11PM THANK YOU.
08:09:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
08:09:13PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:09:14PM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
08:09:18PM NUMBER 6?
08:09:21PM COME ON UP AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:09:23PM ANYBODY THAT IS WISHING TO SPEAK.
08:09:24PM HAVE YOU BEEN SWORN?
08:09:26PM IF YOU HAVE NOT -- I SAW YOU COME IN LATE.
08:09:28PM IF ANYBODY IS HERE TO SPEAK ON 6 AND 7 OR ANYTHING AFTER
08:09:34PM THAT AND HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, PLEASE STAND UP, RAISE YOUR
08:09:37PM RIGHT HAND, AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
08:09:39PM ALL RIGHT.
08:09:40PM WE HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLKS.
08:09:41PM [SWEARING IN]
08:09:50PM >> I DO.
08:09:50PM >>CLERK: THANK YOU, YOU MAY BE SEATED.
08:09:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
08:09:55PM MISS WATKINS, YOU HANDED ME A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM WITH ONLY
08:09:59PM YOUR NAME ON IT.
08:10:01PM >> YES.
08:10:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU GET TO SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES.
08:10:04PM >> OKAY.
08:10:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE -- SO WE DON'T NEED THE SPEAKER
08:10:09PM WAIVER FORM.
08:10:10PM AND WITH REGARD TO MR. AKEBAWI.
08:10:16PM DID I PRONOUNCE YOUR NAME CORRECTLY.
08:10:19PM >> PERFECT.
08:10:20PM >> I SEE A LIST OF NINE NAMES.
08:10:23PM ARE THEY GOING TO SPEAK INDIVIDUALLY OR SOMEBODY SPEAK ON
08:10:26PM THEIR BEHALF .
08:10:28PM >> I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER, AND I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE, BUT
08:10:30PM THEY ARE MY NEIGHBORS.
08:10:32PM THEY ARE ACROSS THE STREET AND BEHIND MY HOUSES.
08:10:34PM AND NEXT TO MY HOUSES.
08:10:35PM THEY CAME -- THEY KNOW I DISCUSSED THE PROJECT WITH THEM.
08:10:38PM AND THEY ARE -- I HAVE THEIR SUPPORT.
08:10:41PM THAT IS WHY THEY ARE HERE.
08:10:42PM UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT THEM TO TALK.
08:10:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HE THE RIGHT TO TALK.
08:10:46PM THEY CAN EACH SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES.
08:10:48PM NOBODY WILL SPEAK ON THEIR BEHALF.
08:10:51PM THEY WILL SPEAK INDIVIDUALLY, IS THAT CORRECT?
08:10:55PM >> WE DON'T WANT TOO TAKE YOUR TIME.
08:10:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIEF RIGHT TO SPEAK INDIVIDUALLY IF THEY
08:11:00PM CHOOSE.
08:11:00PM RATHER THAN USING A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM AND WAIVING THEIR
08:11:04PM TIME.
08:11:04PM THEY CAN COME UP AND TAKE UP TO THREE MINUTES.
08:11:07PM THEY DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK THREE MINUTES.
08:11:08PM BUT THEY CAN SPEAK UP TO THREE MINUTES.
08:11:10PM >> MY NAME IS SMAR WATKINS.
08:11:14PM I LIVE IN THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE WITH THE X.
08:11:17PM MY STREET IS CAMERON COURT THAT TEES INTO THE SUBJECT
08:11:22PM PROPERTY.
08:11:22PM I AM OPPOSING THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE IT IS A SINGLE-FAMILY
08:11:25PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:11:26PM AND I JUST -- DON'T WANT RENTAL UNITS.
08:11:30PM I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY ARE BUILT, THEY CAN BE RENTED
08:11:33PM EVERY YEAR INSTEAD OF TWO HOUSES, NOW THERE ARE GOING TO BE
08:11:38PM FOUR DWELLINGS.
08:11:39PM SO INSTEAD OF FOUR CARS, NOW EIGHT CARS.
08:11:42PM THERE IS ONLY ONE BLOCK BETWEEN SEABORN DAY SCHOOL WHICH IS
08:11:46PM RIGHT HERE AND DALE MABRY ELEMENTARY, WHICH THE KIDS WALK
08:11:49PM DOWN THE STREET EVERY DAY TO GO TO THE DAY CARE AFTER
08:11:52PM SCHOOL.
08:11:52PM AND THERE IS TERRIBLE FLOODING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:11:55PM I HAVE SOME PICTURES OF THAT.
08:11:56PM WHICH IS ANOTHER CONCERN OF MEAN.
08:12:00PM OKAY.
08:12:02PM THIS PICTURE IS TAKEN ON ESTRELLA RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE
08:12:11PM SUBJECT FACING HENDERSON BOULEVARD.
08:12:13PM THAT IS WHAT FLOODING HAPPENS EVERY TIME THERE IS A HARD
08:12:16PM RAIN.
08:12:16PM THE STREET FLOODS COMPLETELY THERE.
08:12:18PM AND THEN THIS IS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, AND CAMERON COURT
08:12:25PM GOES HERE AND ESTRELLA IS RIGHT THERE.
08:12:27PM THE FLOODING CONDITIONS ALL THE WAY DOWN THE STREET.
08:12:30PM LIKE A FOOD DEEP EVERY TIME THERE IS DEEP RAIN.
08:12:33PM EVEN GETTING INTO THE STREET AND GETTING INTO THE SUBJECT
08:12:35PM PROPERTY OR ON TO OUR STREET IS COMPLETE FLOODING.
08:12:37PM AND WITH THE -- WITH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HE AS IT IS NOW
08:12:44PM OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH THE HOUSE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ON
08:12:47PM THIS LOT, WHICH HAS NOW BEEN TORN DOWN AND A TREE HAS BEEN
08:12:50PM TAKEN OUT.
08:12:51PM HERE IS ONE OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES.
08:12:53PM ALL THIS GRASS AND ALL THIS LAND WHERE THE WATER HAS BEEN
08:12:56PM TRAINING DOWN INTO WILL NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY ONCE THIS
08:12:59PM PROJECT HAS BEEN BUILT.
08:13:00PM AND IT IS ALL CONCRETE WITH DRIVEWAY AND SIDEWALK, AND, YOU
08:13:04PM KNOW, THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTIES.
08:13:06PM SO THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY -- OH -- I HAVE ONE MORE
08:13:10PM PICTURE.
08:13:11PM THIS IS ANOTHER FLOODING INCIDENT.
08:13:12PM THIS WAS ACTUALLY AN ACCIDENT THAT HAPPENS QUITE OFTEN AT
08:13:16PM THIS INTERSECTION.
08:13:17PM I BELIEVE THIS CAR HIT A -- THIS FLOODING IS NOT DUE TO
08:13:22PM RAIN.
08:13:22PM THIS WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY HIT THE -- THE FIRE HYDRANT.
08:13:26PM BUT THE FLOODING IS LIKE THIS ANYWAY.
08:13:29PM I JUST REALIZED THAT IS NOT REALLY BECAUSE OF THE FLOODING
08:13:32PM BUT IN THAT SAME AREA.
08:13:34PM A SIX-WAY INTERSECTION WHICH CAUSES A LOT OF ACCIDENTS.
08:13:38PM I KNOW ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS HERE TONIGHT HAS BEEN IN TWO
08:13:41PM ACCIDENTS AT THAT SAME INTERSECTION.
08:13:43PM AND SO THIS IS WHY I OPPOSE IT.
08:13:50PM BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC FLOW, TO AND FROM THE DAY CARE AND THE
08:13:54PM SCHOOL, GETTING IN AND OUT OF THE THING.
08:13:56PM EACH PROPERTY -- EACH -- EACH DWELLING HAS AN OPPORTUNITY
08:14:01PM HAVE TWO CARS.
08:14:01PM BUT MOST PEOPLE IF THEY HAVE A TEENAGER OR SOMEBODY ELSE
08:14:05PM LIVING THERE, THREE PEOPLE LIVE THERE, THERE WILL BE THREE
08:14:07PM CARS.
08:14:08PM WHERE IS SOMEBODY -- A GUEST GOING TO BE PARKING IN THEIR --
08:14:11PM YOU KNOW, IF THEIR DRIVEWAY IS TAKING UP THE TWO SPACES THAT
08:14:14PM THEY HAVE, FLOSS PLACE FOR ANYBODY TO PARK.
08:14:16PM WHEN -- WHEN SEABORN OR -- DALE MABRY HAS ANY KIND OF EVENT
08:14:22PM WHERE ALL THE PARENTS COME TO THE SCHOOL PARTIES AND WHAT
08:14:25PM NOT.
08:14:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:14:27PM >> THE ENTIRE STREET BLOCKS OFF WITH TRAFFIC.
08:14:30PM AND ENTIRE STREET GETS BLOCKED WITH TRAFFIC EVERY TIME.
08:14:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:14:34PM >> I DON'T THINK THERE IS ENOUGH TRAFFIC FLOW AND PARKING
08:14:38PM AND I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE FLOODED EVEN MORE SO.
08:14:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
08:14:42PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:14:43PM BEFORE WE CONTINUE ON WITH THE IN-PERSON FOLKS, WE HAVE TWO
08:14:47PM REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
08:14:49PM YOU KNOW, VIRTUALLY.
08:14:52PM IF WE CAN GET THEM ON.
08:14:53PM ARE THEY BOTH ONLINE?
08:14:57PM ALL RIGHT, IF CIARA AND PATRICK WOULD TURN THEIR CAMERAS ON
08:15:03PM AND UNMUTE THEMSELVES, SWEAR THEM IN.
08:15:06PM ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE CIARA AND PATRICK, WILL YOU TURN ON
08:15:22PM YOUR CAMERA.
08:15:22PM PATRICK AND CIARA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HANDS.
08:15:29PM WE WILL SWEAR NEW.
08:15:30PM [SWEARING IN]
08:15:38PM >> YES.
08:15:38PM >> YES.
08:15:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CIARA.
08:15:42PM YOU GO FIRST.
08:15:43PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
08:15:44PM >> HI, CIARA WANAKE, AND I LIVE ON CAMERON COURT, ONE HOUSE
08:15:54PM AWAY FROM MISS WATKINS.
08:15:56PM I AM A LITTLE NERVOUS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF MY WORDING WILL BE
08:15:59PM ORGANIZED, BUT I HAVE A COUPLE OF POINTS I WOULD LIKE TO
08:16:02PM MAKE.
08:16:02PM ONE PIECE IS, THAT I DO BELIEVE, THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT SIN
08:16:07PM TENDED TO BE IN THE INTEREST OF THE DEVELOPER, NOT
08:16:09PM NECESSARILY THE COMMUNITY.
08:16:11PM THE DEVELOPMENT USES EVERY POTENTIAL SQUARE INCH OF SPACE
08:16:15PM FOR FINANCIAL BENEFIT FOR OVERALL ENHANCEMENT OF THE
08:16:21PM NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN ACHIEVED WITH TWO
08:16:24PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
08:16:25PM UP UNTIL TODAY, THERE WERE NO PLANS FOR -- ON-SITE AND ALL
08:16:30PM FOUR OF THOSE UNITS THAT INTRODUCE AS TRANSIENT NEIGHBORHOOD
08:16:33PM WHICH WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE DUPLEXES IN PALMA CEIA WEST.
08:16:40PM I BOUGHT A HOUSE THREE BLOCKS FROM WHERE I GREW UP ON
08:16:43PM WATROUS AND NEVER THE CHARACTERIZATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:16:46PM WE ARE CONSISTENTLY FIGHTING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY SENSE ABOUT
08:16:51PM US.
08:16:51PM AND WE KNOW OUR NEIGHBORS.
08:16:52PM WE WALK THE BLOCK.
08:16:54PM WE ALL HAVE POTLUCKS AT THE END OF THE STREET.
08:16:57PM AND I THINK BY INCREASING THE POPULATION DENSITY AND THE
08:17:01PM INTRODUCTION OF RENTAL UNITS ON THE STREET DRAMATICALLY
08:17:05PM CHANGES THE NEIGHBORHOOD ATMOSPHERE AND OVERALL CONSISTENCY
08:17:10PM OF THE CURRENT COMMUNITY WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THERE.
08:17:12PM I ALSO AM SIGNIFICANTLY WORRIED ABOUT THE INCREASE IN
08:17:16PM TRAFFIC.
08:17:17PM THAT ALLEYWAY IS NOT INTENDED TO BE A THRU-WAY STREET AND
08:17:22PM NOW INTRODUCES FOUR DIRECTIONS OF WHICH PEOPLE COULD BE
08:17:26PM POTENTIALLY COMING FROM WHICH TO ME GIVES A NUMBER ACCIDENTS
08:17:29PM THAT ALREADY OCCURED 30 FEET AWAY FROM THAT ALLEYWAY IS
08:17:35PM POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC.
08:17:36PM THERE IS CONSTANTLY TRAFFIC PUSHED INTO THE COMMERCIAL
08:17:40PM AREAS.
08:17:40PM BY ADDING THOSE ADDITIONAL UNITS, WE ARE WORKING TO CREATE
08:17:45PM INCREASED TRAFFIC FLOW THAT CONTINUE TO PUSH ADDITIONAL
08:17:49PM TRAFFIC, CARS PARK CAN DOWN ON OUR STREETS, AND WILL CREATE
08:17:53PM EVEN MORE OF A TRAFFIC JAM.
08:17:54PM I CAN BARELY GET OUT OF MY STREET NOW TO GET TO THE
08:17:59PM ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL IN THE MORNINGS BECAUSE OF
08:18:00PM THE NUMBER OF CARS LINED UP AGAINST THE STREET ON ESTRELLA.
08:18:04PM AND NOW INTRODUCE MORE SPACE, MORE UNITS, MORE TRAFFIC.
08:18:08PM SO I AM OPPOSED TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
08:18:10PM I THINK IT WOULD BE A BEAUTIFUL UNIT.
08:18:15PM BUT OPPOSED TO THE IDEA OF HAVING RENTAL UNITS, MANY
08:18:19PM STRUCTURED OF A SINGLE-FAMILY DESIGNATION AND MORE
08:18:22PM IMPORTANTLY, I THINK THIS SETS A PRECEDENT FOR FUTURE
08:18:26PM DEVELOPMENT.
08:18:26PM THIS IS NOT THE CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:18:29PM AND BY AGREEING TO REZONE INTO THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, IT
08:18:34PM CONTRIBUTES TO THE POSSIBILITY OF A COMPLETE TRANSFORMATION
08:18:36PM OF THE SMALL COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED.
08:18:38PM I WOULD GIVE BACK MY TIME.
08:18:47PM THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
08:18:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:18:49PM PATRICK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:18:51PM >> HI, PATRICK COZY.
08:18:56PM HERE TO SPEAK TO SUPPORT.
08:19:00PM NO DWELLING UNIT MEETS 10,000 SQUARE FEET OF LAND
08:19:06PM NEAR DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
08:19:08PM GRATUITOUS LOT SIZES ARE A MAY JUROR DRIVER OF OUR
08:19:14PM SKYROCKETING HOUSING COST.
08:19:15PM IF PERHAPS THE DRIVER FOR SKYROCKETING HOUSING COSTS.
08:19:20PM SMALLER LOTS SIZES ARE A WAY TO REVERSE THIS TRENDS.
08:19:23PM IN MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
08:19:25PM I OWN MY HOME.
08:19:26PM IT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO A DUPLEX.
08:19:28PM AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE DUPLEX ARE SOME OF THE BEST
08:19:33PM NEIGHBORS ON OUR STREET.
08:19:34PM SO I SUPPORT THE REZONING.
08:19:36PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
08:19:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:19:39PM GO BACK TO IN-PERSON.
08:19:41PM YES, SIR.
08:19:42PM YOU ARE UP.
08:19:43PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBER.
08:19:46PM MY NAME IS MICHAEL McNABB.
08:19:49PM A LONG-TERM RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA AND PRESIDENT OF PALMA
08:19:54PM CEIA WEST NEIGHBORHOODS ASSOCIATION, AND I AM SPEAKING
08:19:57PM FOR THE BOARD AND MYSELF IN THIS MATTER OF OPPOSING THIS.
08:20:02PM THE REASON IS SIMPLE.
08:20:03PM THESE PROPERTIES WERE ZONED RS-60 DECADES AGO AND RS-60 DOES
08:20:10PM NOT ALLOW DUPLEXES TO BE BUILT.
08:20:11PM THE OWNER BOUGHT TWO LOTS WITH HOUSES ON THEM KNOWING THE
08:20:16PM REZONING RESTRICTIONS AND APPARENTLY DOESN'T LIKE THE ZONING
08:20:23PM ON THERE AND WANTS TO HAVE TWO-STORY DUPLEXES.
08:20:27PM USING THE PD IS A WAY TO GET AROUND ZONING RULES.
08:20:31PM I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH THE CITY STAFF REPORT.
08:20:33PM DUPLEXES ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE PREVAILING HOME SITES
08:20:40PM PALMA CEIA WEST.
08:20:42PM I HAVE NOT MET WITH THE HOMEOWNER OR DEVELOPER.
08:20:45PM NO HARDSHIP OR ODD CONFIGURATION.
08:20:48PM THIS IS A MOVE TO MAXIMIZE THE PROFITS FROM THESE LOTS.
08:20:51PM THERE ARE PERHAPS 1200 PROPERTIES IN PALMA CEIA WEST ON BOTH
08:20:57PM SIDES OF HENDERSON BOULEVARD AND ZERO DUPLEXES, ZERO TOWN
08:21:00PM HOMES, ZERO CONDOS.
08:21:02PM ALL THE PROPERTIES ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, EVERY SINGLE
08:21:05PM ONE.
08:21:05PM I DON'T SEE HOW THESE DUPLEXES ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE
08:21:09PM CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BEHIND
08:21:11PM COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ON HENDERSON.
08:21:13PM THERE ARE PLENTY OF HOUSES BEHIND LIGHT COMMERCIAL ON BOTH
08:21:17PM SIDES OF HENDERSON.
08:21:17PM AND THEY HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
08:21:19PM THESE ARE NOT LOW-INCOME HOUSING EITHER.
08:21:22PM AND IN MY OPINION, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO AN
08:21:26PM ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:21:27PM PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE RIGHTS, AND THEY EXPECT THAT YOU WILL
08:21:30PM PLAY BY THE RULES AND PRESERVE THEIR PROPERTY VALUES AND
08:21:34PM ZONING.
08:21:34PM YOU ALL SAID YOU SUPPORT NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THIS IS THE TIME
08:21:39PM TO DENY THIS PD.
08:21:41PM THE OWNER HAS THE OPTION TO BUILD TWO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES
08:21:44PM WHICH MOST LIKELY WOULD SELL EVEN BEFORE THEY ARE FINISHED.
08:21:48PM LASTLY, YOU MUST MAKE YOUR DECISIONS BASED ON COMPETENT AND
08:21:53PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, NOT SYMPATHY OR PROFIT.
08:21:55PM THERE ARE NO COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL FACTS THAT I SEE TO
08:21:59PM SUPPORT OVERRIDING THE EXISTING RS-60 ZONING THAT EVERYBODY
08:22:07PM ELSE HAS TO ABIDE BY.
08:22:09PM PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE REZONING.
08:22:11PM THANK YOU.
08:22:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:22:13PM NEXT SPEAKER.
08:22:15PM >> I HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM ALSO.
08:22:17PM AND SOME HANDOUTS FOR YOU.
08:22:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CONLEY HAS ONE NAME, JOANNE McNABB.
08:22:38PM ONE ADDITIONAL MINUTE.
08:22:39PM >> I AM TOM CONLEY, AND THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE
08:22:42PM VIRGINIA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
08:22:44PM I AM SPEAKING WITH THE CONSENT OF MY BOARD AND AS AN
08:22:47PM INDIVIDUAL.
08:22:47PM I AM ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL TONIGHT TO DENY THE
08:22:52PM PETITION TO REZONE REZ 24-04.
08:22:57PM ONE THING THE ZONING STAFF REPORT IS NOT CONSISTENT TO 27-11
08:23:02PM CREATION OF LOTS, SEMICOLON, LOT DIMENSION BUSINESS LOW
08:23:07PM MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
08:23:08PM SPECIFICALLY MANDATES OF AND ANALYSIS OF PARCEL
08:23:12PM CONFIGURATION.
08:23:12PM YOU CAN READ THE REST THERE.
08:23:14PM THERE ARE NO DUPLEXES OR MULTI FAMILY HOMES WITHIN 1320
08:23:18PM FEET.
08:23:19PM CONFIGURATION DOESN'T JUST MEAN THE DIMENSIONS OF THE LOT.
08:23:22PM IT MEANS THE TYPE OF DWELLINGS THAT ARE POSITIONED ON THE
08:23:25PM LOTS TOO.
08:23:26PM SO THAT ANALYSIS WAS NOT ACCOMPLISHED.
08:23:28PM LU POLICY 9.3.8.
08:23:32PM THE INTENT OF THE CITY, NEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WILL BE
08:23:35PM MINIMALLY DISRUPTIVE TO THE ADJACENT AREAS.
08:23:38PM TO ACHIEVE THIS, THE CITY WILL ASSESS THE POSITIVE AND
08:23:42PM NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE PHYSICAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE
08:23:45PM SURROUNDING AREA AND REQUIRE MITIGATION.
08:23:47PM RS-06 ONCE AGAIN DOES NOT PERMIT DUPLEXES.
08:23:51PM LU POLICY 9.5.4 USING SINGLE-FAMILY PROPERTIES TO MAINTAIN
08:23:57PM THE CURRENT DENSITY AND CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING
08:24:00PM SINGLE-FAMILY AREAS, RS-60.
08:24:03PM PROTECT AREAS OF THE LOWEST INTENSITY OF DEVELOPMENT.
08:24:06PM IF YOU NOTICE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN ITS INTRODUCTION
08:24:11PM STATES THAT SOUTH TAMPA IS LIMITED AND -- THE DENSITY IS NOT
08:24:15PM TO BE INCREASED.
08:24:16PM RESPONDING COMMUNITY PLANS OR POLICIES RESULTING IN
08:24:21PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR REDEVELOPMENT AND INFILL MAINTAINS THE
08:24:24PM SINGLE-FAMILY CHARACTER OF THE AREA BUT ALLOWS FOR RANGE OF
08:24:30PM HOUSING TYPES AS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
08:24:33PM THESE DO NOT MAINTAIN THE RS-60 ZONING CHARACTERISTICS.
08:24:37PM ONCE AGAIN RS-60 DOES NOT ALLOW DUPLEXES.
08:24:41PM POLICY 1.1.2.
08:24:43PM CONTINUE TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE THE SINGLE-FAMILY
08:24:45PM NEIGHBORHOOD FOR SENSITIVE TRANSITION OF NEIGHBORHOODS IN
08:24:48PM ADJOINING AREAS, REQUIRING NEW DEVELOPMENTS BOTH PRIVATE AND
08:24:52PM PUBLIC TO RESPECT AND RESPOND TO THE EXISTING PHYSICAL
08:24:55PM CHARACTER STICKS.
08:24:56PM BUILDINGS, STREETSCAPE, OPEN SPACES AND CITY THAT CONFORM TO
08:25:02PM THE OVERALL CHARACTER AND LIVABILITIES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:25:04PM ONCE AGAIN, IF THEY HAD DONE THE ANALYSIS FOR 27-11, IT DOES
08:25:08PM NOT MAINTAIN THE CHARACTER.
08:25:09PM THERE ARE NO MULTIFAMILY HOUSES WITHIN 1320 FEET OF THE
08:25:15PM SUBJECT PARCEL THAT IS AT -- THAT IS REQUESTING THE
08:25:19PM REZONING.
08:25:19PM IT IS OBVIOUS AND BACKED UP BY THIS COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
08:25:25PM EVIDENCE THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF 27-11 YOU SHOULD
08:25:29PM VOTE TO DENY TO REZONE TO THE PD.
08:25:32PM CITY COUNCIL IN ITS WISDOM BEFORE YOU DECIDED WE SHOULD HAVE
08:25:36PM SEPARATE ZONES, 50, 60, 70, 75, 100, ETC., WHY IS IT NOT IF
08:25:43PM YOU WANT THESE TO CHANGE VIA PD, WHY DOESN'T THE COUNCIL
08:25:48PM SUBMIT AN ORDINANCE TO SAY, HEY, WE DON'T WANT RS-60 IN HERE
08:25:53PM ANYMORE.
08:25:54PM WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.
08:25:55PM YOU HAVEN'T.
08:25:55PM THE CITY AND THE COLONEL IN ITS INFINITE WISDOM DECIDED THAT
08:26:00PM THE CITY SHOULD BE BROKEN UP INTO DISTINCT INDIVIDUALS
08:26:04PM ZONING DISTRICTS.
08:26:04PM AND THOSE DISTRICTS ARE THE ONES THAT EXIST.
08:26:08PM THE RS-60.
08:26:11PM BEATING A DEAD HORSE.
08:26:12PM RS-60 DOESN'T ALLOW THE DUPLEXES WITHIN 1320 FEET AND A
08:26:18PM QUARTER MILE IN ACCORDANCE WITH 27-11, NOT A SINGLE
08:26:26PM MULTIFAMILY UNIT TO BE FOUND.
08:26:28PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
08:26:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
08:26:30PM YES, MA'AM.
08:26:31PM PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
08:26:35PM >> ALEXA HUFFERMAN.
08:26:39PM ESTRELLA STREET.
08:26:40PM I LIVED IN MY CURRENT HOUSE SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND STARTING
08:26:45PM MY SECOND YEAR OF COLLEGE.
08:26:47PM I WATCHED THE HOUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME BY THE
08:26:50PM WAY GO FROM KINDS OF LIKE A SLUM, BECAUSE THE PEOPLE WHO
08:26:54PM RENTED IT NEVER TOOK CARE OF THE PROPERTY.
08:26:56PM WHEN HE MOVED IN, HE STARTED TAKING CARE OF IT.
08:26:59PM I SAW THE CHANGE IN THE HOUSES IN FRONT OF ME AND BECAME
08:27:03PM MORE AESTHETICALLY APPEALING IN A SENSE.
08:27:07PM I BELIEVE THAT THE TOWN HOUSES WON'T BE A PROBLEM.
08:27:09PM IN THE ASPECT MUCH TRAFFIC, LET ME BEGIN LOTS, FROM WHAT I
08:27:14PM AM HEARD BEING ADDED TO IT.
08:27:15PM WON'T BE A PROBLEM.
08:27:16PM IF WE WANT TO TALK OF TRAFFIC ISSUES, TALK OF THE PEOPLE WHO
08:27:20PM TAKE OVER OUR LAWNS AND ROADS THAT BELONG TO COLEMAN AND
08:27:24PM SEABORN.
08:27:24PM THAT IS THE REAL TRAFFIC ISSUE, NOT THE PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR
08:27:27PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:27:28PM BECAUSE THAT -- THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE BLOCKING OUR
08:27:31PM ROAD, NOT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO BE LIVING RESIDENTS
08:27:33PM THERE.
08:27:34PM THE ASPECT OF FLOODING.
08:27:35PM FROM THE PHOTOS WE EVEN SAW, IT WASN'T DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF
08:27:40PM THE PLACE WHERE THE TOWNHOUSES ARE LOCATED IN OUR CUL-DE-SAC
08:27:47PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:27:47PM THE FLOODING IS NOT JUST ABOUT TOWN HOUSES BUT HOUSES BEING
08:27:51PM BUILT AND LAND TAKEN AWAY.
08:27:53PM IF WE WANT TO COVER THAT ISSUE, WE NEED TO MAKE IT A SINGLE
08:27:57PM PROBLEM BUT ONE SINGLE TOWN HOUSE BEING ADDED OR TWO, MY
08:28:02PM APOLOGIES.
08:28:03PM THE ASPECT OF WHAT I HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE
08:28:06PM THERE IS A GROUP CHAT.
08:28:07PM AND IT IS PRETTY INTENSE IN THERE.
08:28:10PM THE ASPECTS MUCH A -- OF PROPERTY VALUE BEING DECREASED.
08:28:15PM I THINK THAT IS FALSE.
08:28:16PM BECAUSE FROM SOURCES THAT I FOUND KINDS OF ONLINE AND FROM,
08:28:20PM LIKE, REALTORS AND STUFF, A LOT OF THEM SAY PROPERTY VALUE
08:28:24PM DECREASES WITH DEFERRED MAINTENANCE ISSUE, OUTDATED
08:28:28PM KITCHENS, BATHROOMS AND NOISY CONDITIONS.
08:28:31PM ADDING TOWNHOUSES, UPPING YOUR APPLIANCES AND HAVING NEWER
08:28:36PM LAND WILL UP THE VALUE IF ANYTHING.
08:28:38PM BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE TALKING HOW HE KIND OF WANTS IT FOR
08:28:41PM BENEFIT.
08:28:41PM AND I THINK THAT IS FALSE.
08:28:43PM A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD JUST A SINGLE HOME IN GENERAL.
08:28:47PM IT IS REALLY INTENSE IN THE HOUSE AREA AND EVERYTHING IS
08:28:50PM EXPENSIVE.
08:28:50PM I AM PLANNING ON MAYBE BUYING OFF THE HOME MY MOM CURRENTLY
08:28:54PM LIVES IN OR MY YOUNGER BROTHER.
08:28:55PM I MEAN, IT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE HOUSE.
08:28:57PM AND I DON'T SEE AN AESTHETIC ISSUE OR PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE
08:29:01PM LIVING THERE.
08:29:01PM I THINK ALL THE ISSUES THAT ARE KIND OF BEING POINTED ROUT
08:29:06PM KIND OF PETTY IN A SENSE.
08:29:07PM OR THE ASPECT OF MAYBE -- MAYBE THAT -- OH, THIS IS THE
08:29:12PM FIRST TOWNHOUSE.
08:29:14PM SO?
08:29:14PM WE CAN ALWAYS ADD MORE.
08:29:16PM I THINK THAT TOWN HOUSES -- I MEAN, IT COULD BE AN ISSUE,
08:29:21PM BUT AT THE SAME TIME, SMALLER HOUSING WITH MORE PEOPLE IS
08:29:23PM KINDS OF LESSER MONEY IN A SENSE.
08:29:25PM AND I FEEL LIKE IT HELPS ALSO BRING A COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
08:29:28PM SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THESE TOWN HOUSES.
08:29:31PM THANK YOU.
08:29:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:29:33PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:29:35PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
08:29:35PM >> DANA HEFFERMAN.
08:29:41PM I DON'T THINK I COULD FOLLOW HER UP.
08:29:43PM THAT IS A MY KID.
08:29:45PM 4111 WEST ESTRELLA AND THE PROPERTIES ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS.
08:29:50PM I AM NOT GOING TO REITERATE EVERYTHING SHE SAID.
08:29:52PM SOME OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT.
08:29:55PM YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, IS THE TRAFFIC.
08:29:59PM THE ONE PIECE SHE DID SAY.
08:30:01PM TRAFFIC TO ME IS MORE OF A CONCERN THAN SEEING TWO DUPLEXES.
08:30:05PM FOR ME PERSONALLY AS I AGE, I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO
08:30:09PM EITHER INVEST IN ONE OF THOSE -- I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY
08:30:13PM WERE GOING TO BE THERE, AND NOW I DO.
08:30:15PM WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS.
08:30:17PM I PERSONALLY MAINTAIN MY OWN HOUSE.
08:30:19PM MY NEIGHBORS SEE ME MOWING MY OWN LAWN.
08:30:22PM FIXING STUFF UP.
08:30:23PM CLIMBING MY ROOF.
08:30:24PM AS A SINGLE MOTHER.
08:30:30PM I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT MY ENTIRE LIFE SOMETHING LIKE THAT
08:30:34PM WILL ENHANCE THAT I DON'T WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
08:30:38PM AND MY CHILDREN.
08:30:39PM DO I WANT TO LIVE IN THE CONDOS, MY VOTER USED TO LIVE ON
08:30:43PM BAYSHORE AND KNIGHT.
08:30:45PM I CAN'T AFFORD THAT.
08:30:46PM UP WANT TO BE CLOSER.
08:30:48PM ELIMINATING FEES SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE AFFORD TO STAY IN
08:30:52PM THAT NEIGHBORHOODS.
08:30:53PM SOMETHING ALSO THAT THE NEIGHBORS COULD FOCUS THEIR TIME ON
08:30:56PM IS THE TRAFFIC.
08:30:56PM HENDERSON, ESTRELLA, I PERSONALLY FOUND A SEVERED FINGER FOR
08:31:01PM SOMEONE WHO GOT IN AN ACCIDENT.
08:31:03PM I PERSONALLY CHASED A FELON AFTER THEY RAN TO THE SIDE OF
08:31:07PM SEABORN.
08:31:07PM I PERSONALLY HELPED OTHERS.
08:31:09PM MY KIDS HAVE FLIPPED BEING T-BONED AT THE INTERSECTION.
08:31:13PM THERE ARE BIGGER CONCERNS.
08:31:14PM I PERSONALLY WHEN I LOOK OUTSIDE OF MY HOME I SEE A STORAGE
08:31:18PM UNITS.
08:31:19PM I WOULD RATHER SEE A NICE BUILDING.
08:31:20PM IF WE ARE TALKING OF SQUARE FOOTAGE, 3,000, 4,000 SQUARE
08:31:24PM FOOTAGE NO DIFFERENT THAN BUILDING A SINGLE DWELLING AND
08:31:27PM THEY CAN PUTS EIGHT PEOPLE IN THERE.
08:31:28PM NOBODY IS GOING TO COUNT HOW MANY PEOPLE.
08:31:30PM WHAT IF SOMEBODY HAS FOUR OR FIVE KIDS, YOU WILL HAVE FOUR
08:31:33PM OR FIVE VEHICLES.
08:31:34PM I PERSONALLY HAVE THREE VEHICLES.
08:31:36PM WHEN I MOVED THERE, ITS ONE.
08:31:37PM BUT NOW I HAVE TWO KIDS THAT ARE DRIVING AND THEY HAVE
08:31:40PM FRIENDS THAT COMMENT OVER.
08:31:41PM AT ANY GIVEN POINT, WE CAN ASSUME WHAT VEHICLE COUNT THERE
08:31:46PM IS GOING TO BE.
08:31:46PM WE CAN'T ASSUME IF THERE WILL BE CHILDREN.
08:31:48PM IT COULD BE A SINGLE WOMAN, SINGLE MAN, COUPLE, NO KIDS,
08:31:54PM COULD BE THREE KIDS, WE DON'T KNOW.
08:31:55PM I AM FOR IT.
08:31:56PM I THINK IT WILL HELP.
08:31:57PM I THINK IT WILL BE LITTLE MORE DIVERSITY TO THE AREA.
08:32:00PM I THINK IT WILL CHANGE, YOU KNOW, WHAT A LOT OF THE THINGS
08:32:04PM IS -- BUT IN A GOOD WAY.
08:32:05PM BECAUSE IF -- YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN AT FIRST ONCE I THOUGHT
08:32:09PM ABOUT IT WAS RENTERS, BUT I CAN RENT MINE HOUSE OUT.
08:32:13PM IT DOESN'T STOP ANYBODY.
08:32:15PM SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
08:32:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:32:18PM NEXT SPEAKER.
08:32:20PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:32:21PM >> HI, CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
08:32:24PM YOU HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION BASED ON COMPETENT AND
08:32:27PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
08:32:28PM YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE COMP PLAN.
08:32:30PM THE COMP PLAN OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN SAYS TO PRESERVE
08:32:34PM ITS CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:32:35PM THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SINGLE-FAMILY.
08:32:38PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT.
08:32:40PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO -- MAYBE YOU LOVE IT, MAYBE YOU DON'T.
08:32:44PM IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT SINGLE-FAMILY
08:32:47PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
08:32:47PM THAT IS THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
08:32:49PM THERE IS -- THERE ARE NO DUPLEXES.
08:32:51PM AND THE COMP PLAN SAYS THAT MUST BE PRESERVED.
08:32:54PM I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE -- THE GARAGES ON THESE
08:33:01PM ARE NOT 24 FEET WIDE.
08:33:03PM AND YOU HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY BEFORE THAT IF THE GARAGE IS
08:33:08PM NOT 24 FEET WIDE, AND YOU PARK TWO VEHICLES IN IT, YOU WILL
08:33:11PM HAVE TO CLIMB OUT THE WINDOWS.
08:33:14PM IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO PARK TWO VEHICLES IN THAT GARAGE.
08:33:17PM I AM EXTREMELY FAMILIAR WITH THIS BLOCK.
08:33:19PM MY DAUGHTER WENT TO DARYL MABRY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
08:33:22PM SHE WENT TO SEABORN DAY SCHOOL.
08:33:24PM THIS IS THE SIDEWALK THAT GOES FROM DALE MABRY ELEMENTARY TO
08:33:28PM SEABORN DAY SCHOOL.
08:33:31PM EVERY SINGLE DAY --
08:33:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUT IT HIGHER.
08:33:33PM >> I'M SORRY.
08:33:35PM EVERY SINGLE DAY THE CHILDREN WALK FROM SEA -- FROM DOWN
08:33:39PM THIS SIDEWALK.
08:33:39PM HAVE YOU EVER READ THE BOOK "MADELINE?"
08:33:43PM AND YOU SEE THE LINE OF THE GIRLS WALKING, THAT IS WHAT IT
08:33:46PM LOOKS LIKE, A LINE OF ELEMENTARY KIDS WALKING.
08:33:50PM THE TRAFFIC IS VERY HAVE VERY HEAVY THROUGH THERE.
08:33:53PM I WANT YOU TO NOTICE ZERO -- ABSOLUTELY ZERO ON-STREET
08:33:56PM PARKING.
08:33:57PM YOU CAN NOT PARK ONE SINGLE CAR ON-STREET ON BE THIS BLOCK.
08:34:02PM AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PARK TWO CARS IN THE
08:34:05PM GARAGE.
08:34:06PM SO WHAT ARE THEY GOING TOO DO SOMEBODY IN AID 25 -- I HAVE A
08:34:10PM 2500-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSE.
08:34:12PM ONE POINT I HAD FIVE LICENSED DRIVERS IN MY HOUSE AND WE HAD
08:34:16PM FIVE CARS.
08:34:17PM WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK?
08:34:20PM AND THIS IS ONE OF THE ADVANTAGES OF A SINGLE-FAMILY
08:34:22PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:34:23PM MOST OF THEM, LIKE MINE -- THIS ONE IS PARTICULARLY
08:34:27PM CONGESTED.
08:34:27PM SO NO ONE CAN EVEN -- EVEN THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES CANNOT
08:34:31PM PARK ON THE STREET, BUT MOST OF THEM WHEN THEY CAN'T FIT IN
08:34:34PM THEIR GARAGES OR THEY HAVE MORE DRIVERS, THEY CAN PARK OFTEN
08:34:38PM THE STREET.
08:34:38PM THIS IS GOING TO BE A NIGHTMARE.
08:34:40PM I MEAN THAT IS JUST THE BOTTOM LINE HERE.
08:34:42PM THERE IS NO ROOM FOR THEM.
08:34:43PM SO I AM ASKING TO YOU PRESERVE THE CHARACTER OF THE
08:34:46PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
08:34:46PM UPHOLD THE COMP PLAN THAT MANDATES THAT.
08:34:50PM LOVE IT.
08:34:51PM HATE IT.
08:34:51PM WHATEVER.
08:34:52PM COMPREHENSIVE AND SUBSTANTIAL, THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE REQUIRED
08:34:56PM TO DO.
08:34:56PM PLEASE VOTE NO.
08:34:58PM THANK YOU.
08:34:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:34:59PM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
08:35:02PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:35:03PM >> GOOD, MY NAME IS JESSICA LOTION.
08:35:06PM I LIVE WITH MY HUSBAND AND TWO SMALL CHILDREN AT 4120 WEST
08:35:11PM ESTRELLA.
08:35:12PM THAT IS THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:35:17PM I AM WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
08:35:20PM I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE ADDITION OF TWO EXTRA DWELLINGS,
08:35:24PM BE THEM MULTIUNIT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:35:27PM I THINK, IN FACT, IT WILL IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:35:30PM I THINK IT WILL IMPROVE OUR VALUES.
08:35:32PM I THINK THERE HAS BEEN TESTIMONY ALREADY REGARDING THE
08:35:37PM CONDITION OF THE HOMES BEFORE THE CURRENT OWNER TOOK OVER
08:35:41PM AND HE HAS CONTINUED TO IMPROVE THEM.
08:35:42PM ESTRELLA IS A BUSY STREET.
08:35:48PM OUR SECTION OF ESTRELLA IS LOCATED IN BETWEEN HENDERSON,
08:35:51PM WHICH THERE ARE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
08:35:53PM A BAR IS ESSENTIALLY RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE AND THE TWO
08:36:01PM SCHOOLS.
08:36:01PM TWO EXTRA HOUSES ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT.
08:36:03PM IT WILL ALWAYS BE BUSY.
08:36:05PM CAN THERE BE THINGS TO IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC?
08:36:08PM YES.
08:36:08PM SHOULD THEY BE ADDRESSED?
08:36:10PM BUT I DON'T THINK THIS SHOULD PROHIBIT THE APPROVAL OF THIS
08:36:14PM SITE PLAN.
08:36:14PM WHILE THERE MAY NOT BE MULTIPLE UNIT DWELLINGS WITHIN
08:36:23PM PALMA CEIA WEST.
08:36:24PM I DON'T KNOW FOR CERTAINLY BUT I WILL TAKE THEM AT THEIR
08:36:29PM WORD.
08:36:29PM HALF A MILE DWELLINGS, APARTMENT COMPLEXES, NUMEROUS
08:36:34PM TOWNHOUSE DWELLINGS.
08:36:35PM I THINK THE PROJECT WILL ADD TO OUR COMMUNITY.
08:36:37PM I DON'T THINK THE IMPACT -- WILL THERE BE INCREASED TRAFFIC?
08:36:44PM YES.
08:36:44PM WILL I THINK IT IS SUCH A NATURE THAT IT WILL HARM MY
08:36:48PM STREET?
08:36:48PM NO.
08:36:49PM AND I THINK FOR THESE REASONS, I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU
08:36:52PM APPROVE THIS SITE PLAN TO BETTER OUR STREET, TO BETTER OUR
08:36:55PM COMMUNITY IN PALMA CEIA WEST.
08:36:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:37:04PM NEXT SPEAKER.
08:37:05PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
08:37:06PM >> KELLY ZARA, 8345 BAYSIDE.
08:37:12PM CLOSE PROXIMITY TO SUBJECT SITE.
08:37:14PM I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
08:37:17PM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC LIMITS.
08:37:20PM AS YOU MENTIONED -- MISS JESSICA MENTIONED BEFORE, ALREADY
08:37:27PM HEAVY TRAFFIC FLOW ON HENDERSON.
08:37:29PM I DON'T THINK THAT THREE OR FOUR ADDITIONAL VEHICLES FOR
08:37:36PM RESIDENCE THAT WILL BE LIVING THERE WILL HINDER THIS
08:37:38PM SITUATION.
08:37:39PM IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT -- ONE OF THE
08:37:43PM UNITS WILL ALSO BE ACCESSING THE ALLEY INSTEAD OF THE MAIN
08:37:48PM ROAD.
08:37:49PM SO, AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU ARE NOT REALLY TAKING MUCH ROOM
08:37:54PM AT ALL WITH THE ALLEY ACCESS TOO.
08:37:59PM I ALSO THINK THAT WITHIN LESS THAN A FEW BLOCKS AWAY FROM
08:38:03PM THIS HOME SITE, WE KEEP MENTIONING THERE ARE NOT
08:38:10PM MULTIFAMILY.
08:38:10PM THERE ARE, IN FACT, TOWN HOMES.
08:38:12PM AND ON NEPTUNE, THERE IS A PUBLIX LESS THAN A QUARTER A MILE
08:38:16PM AWAY, AND THERE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
08:38:21PM THERE ARE TOWN HOMES, OKAY -- ALSO.
08:38:26PM AND I THINK THAT THIS PROJECT WILL ACTUALLY BEAUTIFY THE
08:38:33PM NEIGHBORHOOD FROM WHAT IT IS NOW.
08:38:34PM AND IT WILL ALSO ADD VALUE.
08:38:36PM AND WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO LOWER
08:38:43PM THE VALUE OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:38:44PM WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT SUBSTANTIAL SIZE HOMES.
08:38:48PM 3,000-PLUS-SQUARE-FOOT HOMES.
08:38:53PM THERE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN FACT MUCH
08:38:56PM SMALLER THAN THE PROPOSED.
08:38:57PM SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS.
08:38:59PM I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT ONE OF THE VERY FIRST OPPONENTS
08:39:03PM OF THIS PROJECT THAT WAS HERE AND SHOWED A COMPELLING PHOTO
08:39:07PM OF A VEHICLE IN WATER.
08:39:11PM WELL, I GO ON THAT STREET EVERY DAY, BECAUSE MY CHILD GOES
08:39:15PM TO MABRY ELEMENTARY.
08:39:22PM MY FRIENDS LIVE ON THAT STREET AS WELL.
08:39:24PM THAT MAIN BREAK THAT YOU SAW WITH THE CAR -- IT WAS A MAIN
08:39:30PM WATER BREAK.
08:39:30PM IT WAS NOT.
08:39:31PM IN FACT, FROM FLOODING.
08:39:32PM SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
08:39:34PM THANK YOU.
08:39:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:39:36PM NEXT SPEAKER.
08:39:37PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:39:38PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
08:39:40PM >> GOOD EVENING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
08:39:43PM WE HAVE GOT EIGHT -- OR FOUR -- 3,000-PLUS-SQUARE-FOOT UNITS
08:39:52PM AND REPLACING 1200-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSES.
08:39:56PM BE MR. MIRANDA ASKED NOT LONG AGO WHERE IS THE FLOODING.
08:40:02PM IT IS THERE.
08:40:03PM IT MAY NOT JUST BE THERE, BUT THERE AT THE CROSSOVER NEXT TO
08:40:07PM DALE MABRY AS WELL.
08:40:08PM I USED TO DRIVE THIS PILGRIMAGE TO ROLAND PARK FROM MY HOUSE
08:40:14PM IN SOUTH TAMPA THE MOST MISERABLE PIECE OF EARTH THAW CAN
08:40:18PM IMAGINE.
08:40:19PM LOTS OF WALKING KIDS.
08:40:22PM BUT THIS CONCERNS ME.
08:40:23PM YOU HAVE 3,000-SQUARE-FOOT UNITS GOING TO HAVE EIGHT PARKING
08:40:28PM SPACES IN THE GARAGES.
08:40:30PM BECAUSE THAT IS FOUR TWO-CAR GARAGES IS EIGHT PARKING
08:40:35PM SPACES.
08:40:36PM WHERE IS EVERYBODY GOING TO PARK?
08:40:37PM AND THE LADY BACK THERE THAT SPOKE UP FOR THIS, SHE SAID NOW
08:40:41PM I HAVE THREE CARS.
08:40:42PM YOU KNOW, I ONLY HAD ONE WHEN I MOVED HERE.
08:40:45PM AND MR. CONLEY GAVE YOU A LOT OF COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
08:40:52PM EVIDENCE ABOUT WHY THIS DOES NOT MEET THE CHARACTER OF THE
08:40:55PM COMMUNITY.
08:40:56PM SORRY.
08:40:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:40:59PM >> SOUTH TAMPA IS FULL!
08:41:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.
08:41:04PM >> ANTON ASHMORE.
08:41:07PM I LIVE TWO DOORS DOWN ACROSS FROM MABRY ELEMENTARY
08:41:13PM SCHOOL.
08:41:13PM I FREQUENT ISHMAR'S HOUSE WITH MY TWO BOYS.
08:41:18PM HE HAS TWO BOYS.
08:41:20PM I FAVOR THIS PROJECT.
08:41:21PM I THINK IT WILL BRING VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
08:41:23PM I DON'T SEE IT AS VERY DIFFERENT THAN SOMEBODY TAKING THE
08:41:26PM TWO PIECES OF LOT AND PUTTING 6,000-SQUARE-FOOT HOUSES WITH
08:41:30PM I IS VERY COMMON IN SOUTH TAMPA.
08:41:32PM SO I DON'T SEE THAT AS A -- AS A DETERRENT FOR MY SUPPORT.
08:41:39PM BUT ANYWAYS.
08:41:40PM THAT'S IT.
08:41:41PM I'M HERE TO SUPPORT.
08:41:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:41:43PM NEXT SPEAKER, AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:41:47PM >> SEAMAN AKUM.
08:41:51PM I LIVE 1217 WEST STREET ABOUT A MILE FROM ISHMAR'S PLACE AND
08:42:02PM MY SON GOING TO MABRYAS WELL.
08:42:05PM TRAFFIC NOTICE MORNING AND AFTERNOON.
08:42:07PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY RIGHT NOW.
08:42:09PM WE HAVE AROUND US PLENTY OF DUPLEXES ZONING FROM 06 TO 50
08:42:16PM ALL THE TIME.
08:42:17PM WE SEE THAT IN SOUTH TAMPA.
08:42:18PM WE SEE THREE-PLEXES.
08:42:21PM A COUPLE OF THREE-PLEXES.
08:42:23PM HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE COUNCIL BEFORE.
08:42:27PM AND I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT.
08:42:28PM AND INSTEAD OF SIGHING EMPTY LAND OVER THERE, WE CAN HAVE
08:42:33PM MORE FAMILIES AND WE CAN NOT, I GUESS, SPECULATE ON HOW MANY
08:42:37PM PEOPLE WILL LIVE AND WHAT AGE THEIR CHILDREN THROB HAVE
08:42:40PM CARS.
08:42:40PM WE CAN NOT SPECULATE ON THAT, I GUESS.
08:42:43PM SO THIS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, EXPENSIVE HOUSES AND PEOPLE -- IT
08:42:53PM IS A PROBLEM IF THE STREET IS ONE WAY AND YOU CAN'T PARK ON
08:42:57PM ANY WAY OF THE STREET.
08:42:59PM IT WILL BE THEIR PROBLEM TO FIND A PARKING SPOT.
08:43:01PM THEY WILL NOT BLOCK THE ROAD.
08:43:03PM I DON'T THINK.
08:43:04PM NOT BLOCK THE STREET IF THEY CAN NOT PARK.
08:43:06PM THEY WILL PARK IN THEIR GARAGES, I GUESS.
08:43:08PM THANK YOU.
08:43:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:43:10PM ANYBODY ELSE?
08:43:12PM IF NOT, WE -- YES, SIR.
08:43:15PM >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION FOR THE RECORD.
08:43:19PM THERE IS MULTIFAMILY WITHIN 1,000 FEET OF THE PROPERTY.
08:43:23PM THERE IS MULTIFAMILY HERE.
08:43:24PM SUBJECT SITE IS RIGHT HERE.
08:43:26PM THIS IS A CONDOMINIUM, AND MULTIFAMILY RIGHT HERE WHICH IS A
08:43:31PM CONDOMINIUM.
08:43:31PM SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
08:43:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
08:43:36PM ANYBODY?
08:43:39PM OKAY.
08:43:39PM ALL RIGHT.
08:43:39PM YES, SIR.
08:43:41PM YOU HAVE REBUTTAL.
08:43:42PM >> YES, I DO.
08:43:43PM THANK YOU, BRUCE CASTIC FOR THE RECORD, FLORIDA DESIGN
08:43:47PM CONSULTANTS.
08:43:48PM AS DISCUSSED, ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS THE FLOODING.
08:43:51PM THE PROJECT WILL BE GOING THROUGH -- DISCUSSION WE HAD WITH
08:43:54PM CITY STAFF AND, OF COURSE, WILL BE COMPLYING WITH THE CITY
08:43:57PM OF TAMPA STORMWATER STANDARDS ACTUALLY AS WELL AS
08:44:00PM S.W.F.W.M.D. BECAUSE OF IT BEING DONE AS A COMBINED UNIT.
08:44:02PM IT WILL BE CONSIDERED A COMMERCIAL RECOMMENDATION PROJECT.
08:44:06PM WE WILL BE ADDRESSING A LOT -- AGAIN, ON-SITE STORMWATER
08:44:11PM CONCERNS.
08:44:11PM TALKING OF THE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE AREA.
08:44:14PM YOU WILL NOTICE ON THE SITE PLAN, THE HOUSES ARE SET BACK AT
08:44:18PM THE SAME DISTANCE AS THE OTHER SINGLE-FAMILY IN THE AREA.
08:44:21PM THAT IT IS CONSISTENT.
08:44:22PM ALSO BASICALLY ROOM FOR TWO CARS IN FRONT OF THE HOUSES.
08:44:25PM GARAGES ARE 24 FEET WIDE.
08:44:27PM THAT'S CORRECT.
08:44:28PM PARKING STANDARDS IN THE CITY ARE 9 X 18.
08:44:31PM THE -- WHICH, OF COURSE, STILL ALLOWS ROOM TO OPEN YOUR CAR
08:44:35PM DOORS AND SO FORTH ON A 9 X 18 PARKING SPACE.
08:44:39PM THE SPACES, THE GARAGE -- IT WILL BE VERY SUFFICIENT IN
08:44:43PM ADDRESSING THE REQUIREMENTS OR THE USE OF THE PROPERTY, AS
08:44:47PM WELL AS BEING ABLE TO PARK IN THE FRONT.
08:44:49PM WE -- ONE OF ITS THINGS WE THOUGHT ABOUT ON THIS WHOLE THING
08:44:52PM WAS, AGAIN, THERE IS EXISTING TREES TO TO THE SOUTH OF US.
08:44:57PM AROUND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE ALLEY WAS TO TRY TO REDUCE
08:45:00PM THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAY ALONG ESTRELLA AND UTILIZED THE ALLEY
08:45:05PM TO THE BEST WE COULD ON THE BACK SIDE SO WE DIDN'T DISTURB
08:45:08PM THE TREES AND REDUCE THE NUMBER OF DRIVEWAYS ON ESTRELLA AND
08:45:12PM TRYING TO CREATE AN UNIQUE PROJECT.
08:45:17PM ONE OF THE OTHER -- THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THEIR REPORT
08:45:20PM REFER TO THIS AS A PROPERTY THAT INCREASES ENHANCED HOUSING
08:45:23PM OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THAT AREA.
08:45:24PM THE 450 FEET FROM THE WALKING DISTANCE TO MABRYHIGH
08:45:30PM SCHOOL.
08:45:30PM 1200 FEET TO -- WHY AM I DRAWING A BLANK -- TO THE MIDDLE
08:45:35PM SCHOOL.
08:45:35PM COLEMAN.
08:45:36PM THANK YOU.
08:45:36PM AND -- SO, I MEAN, AGAIN, IT IS A PERFECT -- YOU KNOW IT IS
08:45:41PM A REALLY GOOD TRANSITIONAL PIECE OF PROPERTY FROM THE
08:45:43PM COMMERCIAL ON HENDERSON AND CMU-35.
08:45:46PM IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE RES-10 LAND USE.
08:45:50PM ONE LESS UNIT THAN COULD HAVE BEEN REQUESTED.
08:45:53PM AND WE BELIEVE IT IS VERY COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING
08:45:57PM -- WITH THE AREA.
08:45:58PM AND WE WANT YOUR SUPPORT.
08:45:59PM THANK YOU.
08:46:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:46:01PM YES, SIR?
08:46:03PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
08:46:04PM >> MY NAME IS ISHMAR.
08:46:06PM I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
08:46:08PM I LIVE ON THAT STREET FOR I THINK ALMOST THREE YEARS.
08:46:11PM AND I HAVE A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL MY
08:46:14PM SURROUNDING PEOPLE, LIKE ALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:46:16PM AND I DISCUSSED THE PROJECT WITH THEM.
08:46:22PM I DISCUSSED THE PROJECT, INS AND OUTS FOR THE PROJECT, AND I
08:46:27PM 100% BELIEVE THAT THIS PROJECT WILL ADD VALUE TO THE
08:46:30PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:46:30PM AND I HAVE THREE HOUSES IN FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY.
08:46:33PM AND ALL -- THEY ARE ALL SUPPORTING -- I SHOWED THEM BEFORE
08:46:38PM -- BEFORE WE COME IN HERE, LIKE, SHOWING THEM THE PROJECT
08:46:43PM AND I GOT THEIR SUPPORT.
08:46:44PM NEXT DOOR, I SHOWED IT TO THEM.
08:46:47PM AND THEY LIKED IT.
08:46:48PM AND THE TRAFFIC ISSUE, IT -- YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE SAID, OH,
08:46:53PM THEY HAVE HARD TIME GETTING OUT FROM THEIR STREET.
08:46:56PM IT -- I NEVER SEEN THEM.
08:46:58PM THEY ARE IN FRONT OF ME.
08:46:59PM I CAN SEE THEY CAN GET IN AND OUT EASILY.
08:47:02PM AND WE JUST -- YOU KNOW, WAS THINKING ADDING MORE EXIT OR
08:47:08PM ENTRANCE TO THE -- TO ESTRELLA STREET -- WE DISCUSSED WITH
08:47:15PM THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
08:47:16PM AND THEY SAID, OKAY, THIS IS POSSIBLE.
08:47:17PM THIS IS GOOD.
08:47:18PM THAT IS WHY.
08:47:19PM I JUST WANT TO, LIKE, MENTION I CARE ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD
08:47:24PM AND I CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE AROUND ME.
08:47:26PM I JUST ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD LIKE THE PROJECT.
08:47:31PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
08:47:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:47:33PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN?
08:47:35PM ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:47:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOTION CLOSE.
08:47:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
08:47:42PM CLENDENIN.
08:47:42PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
08:47:44PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
08:47:45PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
08:47:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE.
08:47:48PM I WILL GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID
08:47:50PM EARLIER.
08:47:51PM I CAME INTO THIS FEELING ONE WAY COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN
08:47:54PM WHERE I AM AT RIGHT NOW.
08:47:55PM I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA AS WELL.
08:47:58PM MY KIDS WENT TO MAYBERRY.
08:48:01PM FULL DISCLOSURE.
08:48:02PM I AM FAMILIAR WITH THERE AND A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN ESTRELLA
08:48:05PM DURING THE SCHOOL PERIOD AND ABSOLUTELY.
08:48:07PM HERE IS PART OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE FACING IN TAMPA AND
08:48:10PM REDEVELOPMENT.
08:48:11PM AND I THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND WHAT WE SEE ON A
08:48:15PM LOT OF THESE REQUESTS FOR REDEVELOPMENT IS THEY TRY TO PUT
08:48:19PM WAY TOO MUCH ON TOO SMALL OF A LOT.
08:48:22PM I MEAN WAY TOO MUCH.
08:48:24PM AND THEN THEY DON'T ORIENT THEIR UNITS TO THE STREETS.
08:48:26PM THEY DON'T HAVE THAT INTERCONNECTIVITY.
08:48:29PM THEY ARE TAKING OUT GRAND TREES.
08:48:30PM ALL -- JUST PROBLEM AFTER PROBLEM.
08:48:32PM YOU KNOW A PIECE OF PARCEL THIS BIG.
08:48:35PM WE SEE PROJECTS COMING IN HERE TRYING TO SQUEEZE SIX OR MORE
08:48:38PM UNITS AND THEN HAVING THEM CONVOLUTED AND WEIRD.
08:48:41PM THIS ONE HAS GOON TO GREAT EFFORTS NOT TO DO THAT.
08:48:43PM I KNOW FOLKS TALK EVER THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:48:47PM I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:48:49PM YOU ARE NEGLECTING TO SAY THAT THAT CHARACTER OF THE
08:48:52PM NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONLY THIS WAY.
08:48:54PM 50% OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS BACK THIS WAY TOO AND ALL
08:48:57PM COMMERCIAL AREA.
08:48:57PM ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE HAVING IN TAMPA -- AND PART
08:49:01PM OF THE DEVELOPING OF AN OLD CITY -- THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN
08:49:05PM IS, WE DON'T HAVE STEP-DOWN DENSITY.
08:49:08PM I HAVE SPOKEN WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADVOCATES.
08:49:18PM AND WHY DON'T YOU FIX THE COMP PLAN, IT IS HANG BY ITS WAY.
08:49:22PM WE NEED STEP-DOWN DENSITY FROM THE COMMERCIAL AND
08:49:25PM TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.
08:49:27PM HENDERSON IS OBVIOUSLY A BUSY STREET AND ALIGNED WITH
08:49:29PM COMMERCIAL AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY TRANSITION TYPE OF HOUSING.
08:49:32PM ANY TYPE OF TRANSITION AS QUESTION STEP DOWN TO THE
08:49:35PM SINGLE-FAMILY.
08:49:36PM I FIND THIS UNIQUE BECAUSE THIS -- THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS COME
08:49:40PM ON A NICE SIZED PIECE OF PROPERTY IN A VERY MODEST PROPOSAL
08:49:46PM FOR REDEVELOPMENT WITH TWO ADDITION ALLEGE UNITS -- GOING
08:49:50PM FROM TWO TO FOUR.
08:49:51PM SO WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT A REALLY GIGANTIC IMPACT.
08:49:54PM AND, AGAIN, WE ARE TRANSITIONING FROM THAT COMMERCIAL
08:49:57PM CORRIDOR INSTEAD OF BUILDING A SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE RIGHT UP
08:50:00PM AGAINST A BAR AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
08:50:02PM WE HAVE SOME TRANSITION THERE.
08:50:04PM MY QUESTION TO ALL THE FOLKS, IF NOT HERE, WHERE IN TAMPA
08:50:10PM WOULD WE DO THIS.
08:50:12PM AND THAT IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING I AM LOOKING FOR WITH
08:50:17PM THE PROPOSALS.
08:50:17PM WE LOOK A LOT OF THIS IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
08:50:20PM WE LOOK A LOT IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
08:50:22PM ALONG FLORIDA.
08:50:23PM ALONG NEBRASKA.
08:50:25PM AND WE ARE TALKING OF THE STEP-DOWN DENSITY.
08:50:27PM AND IT DOESN'T HAPPEN A LOT IN SOUTH TAMPA, BUT I THINK THIS
08:50:31PM IS AN APPROPRIATE AREA FOR IT.
08:50:33PM I HONESTLY CAN'T FIND A COMPELLING -- YOU KNOW, A COMPETENT
08:50:40PM REASON -- I WENT THROUGH THE PD CRITERIA.
08:50:43PM AND THAT CLEARLY MEETS -- UNLESS WE REVOKE THE PD CRITERIA.
08:50:50PM THE INTEGRATION OF LAND USE AND DENSITY IN ONE DEVELOPMENT
08:50:53PM THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE PROVIDED FOR AND GENERAL ZONING
08:50:56PM DISTRICT ESTABLISHED IN THIS CHAPTER THEIR ENCOURAGED
08:51:00PM COMPATIBILITY IN OVERALL SITE AND SCALE EXTERNAL AND
08:51:05PM INTERNAL FOR THE PROJECT.
08:51:06PM TO ACKNOWLEDGE CHANGING NEEDS, ECONOMICS AND CONSUMER
08:51:11PM PREFERENCES AND I BELIEVE AGAIN RELATIVELY LARGE
08:51:14PM TRACKS UNDER UNIFIED CONTROL AND THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE
08:51:19PM DEVELOPMENT MUCH OLDER AREAS OF THE CITY.
08:51:21PM YOU LOOK THAT THE, AGAIN, IT RINGS TRUE IN THIS PARCEL.
08:51:24PM AGAIN, IT IS NOT -- NOT AN OVERLY, YOU KNOW CRAZY ASK TO ADD
08:51:30PM TWO UNITS.
08:51:30PM AND TO TRANSITION OFF OF THIS COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
08:51:33PM IF THIS -- IF THIS REQUEST WAS ONE BLOCK FURTHER TO THE
08:51:39PM WEST, I WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE SINGING A DIFFERENT -- YOU KNOW,
08:51:43PM BECAUSE WE WOULD BE IN -- RIGHT DEEP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:51:46PM YOU THIS IS A TRANSITIONAL PROPERTY.
08:51:48PM TO SO I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.
08:51:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:51:51PM ANYBODY ELSE?
08:51:51PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
08:51:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
08:51:54PM I ACTUALLY AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY AND I THINK YOU SHOULD MAKE
08:51:57PM A MOTION.
08:51:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
08:52:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO GOOD DEED GOES UNPUNISHED.
08:52:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
08:52:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHERE ARE WE AT.
08:52:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NUMBER 6.
08:52:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING 4116 AND 4118
08:52:21PM WEST ESTRELLA STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
08:52:24PM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
08:52:27PM CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY TO PD PLANNED
08:52:31PM DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI DETACHED
08:52:34PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE AND I BELIEVE THERE IS A
08:52:36PM REVISION SHEET WITH THIS AS WELL.
08:52:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, THERE IS.
08:52:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I HAVE FOUND THAT BASED ON THE
08:52:42PM COMPETENT AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE OF THE APPLICANT AND
08:52:49PM COMPARING WITH SECTIONS 27-136 OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD
08:52:54PM CRITERIA AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED TO ALLOW THE INTEGRATION OF
08:52:59PM DIFFERENT LAND USES AND DENSITY IN ONE DEVELOPMENT THAT
08:53:02PM WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE PROVIDED FOR UNDER GENERAL ZONING
08:53:08PM DISTRICTS, COMPATIBILITY AND OVERALL DESIGN AND SCALE
08:53:11PM INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL TO THE PROJECT, AND NUMBER FOUR,
08:53:15PM ACKNOWLEDGE THE CHANGING NEEDS, POLICIES, ECONOMICS AND CON
08:53:18PM SOMETIMES PREFERENCES AND LOW FOR INGENUITY AND IMAGINATION
08:53:22PM OF LARGE TRACTS UNDER UNIFIED CONTROL AND IN AN OLDER AREA
08:53:29PM THE CITY.
08:53:30PM ALSO TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE TRANSPORTATION FOUND IT
08:53:32PM CONSISTENT.
08:53:34PM I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT OF WHAT WAS SAID WAS ABOUT
08:53:37PM TRANSPORTATION ISSUES.
08:53:38PM OUR TRANSPORTATION EXPERTS FOUND IN TO BE CONSISTENT.
08:53:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND.
08:53:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
08:53:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL VOTE.
08:53:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
08:53:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
08:53:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
08:53:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
08:53:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
08:53:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
08:53:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
08:54:01PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES WITH CARLSON AND MANISCALCO VOTED
08:54:11PM NO.
08:54:11PM SECOND READING IS MARCH 7, 2024 79:30 A.M. LOCATED OLD CITY
08:54:17PM HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
08:54:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:54:23PM ITEM NUMBER 7.
08:54:26PM >>SAM THOMAS: SAM THOMAS.
08:54:33PM LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
08:54:34PM ITEM NUMBER 7, REZ-24-08, 1911 WEST BEACH STREET FROM RS-50
08:54:44PM TO RM-18.
08:54:45PM I WILL TURN IT OVER TO EMILY FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
08:54:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
08:54:55PM >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
08:55:01PM LOCATED WITHIN THE CENTRAL TAMPA DISTRICT, WEST TAMPA
08:55:04PM VILLAGE AND OLD WEST NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:55:06PM THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA,
08:55:09PM SPECIFICALLY EVACUATION ZONE D.
08:55:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SORRY ABOUT THAT.
08:55:24PM >>EMILY PHELAN: THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED HERE.
08:55:27PM THE SURROUNDING AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL WITH SOME
08:55:30PM COMMERCIAL USES TO THE SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
08:55:32PM IN THE AREA, THERE ARE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED DUPLEXES AND
08:55:38PM MULTIFAMILY USES.
08:55:39PM THIS IS THE ADOPTED FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
08:55:45PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE AND REPRESENTED BY THE
08:55:47PM RESIDENTIAL-35 DESIGNATION.
08:55:49PM AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE MAP IT IS SURROUNDED BY THE
08:55:52PM DESIGNATION AND MOVING FURTHER EAST AND WEST AS YOU GET TO
08:55:57PM OTHER DESIGNATIONS, COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 AND COMMUNITY
08:56:03PM COMMERCIAL 35 TO THE WEST.
08:56:03PM THE RESIDENTIAL-35 DESIGNATED PARCELS ON THIS PORTION OF
08:56:07PM WEST B STREET BETWEEN NORTH ALBANY AND NORTH FREMONT AVENUE
08:56:11PM HAVE AN EXISTING DENSITY OF 17 -- EXCUSE ME, 7.13.14 UNITS
08:56:18PM PER ACRE BASED ON SEVEN SITES.
08:56:20PM EXISTING DENSITY 20% OF THE DENSITY PLANNED FOR UNDER THE
08:56:27PM RESIDENTIAL-35 DESIGNATION.
08:56:28PM PROPOSED ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE DESIGNATION
08:56:31PM LAND NOT ALTER THE CHARACTER AND PATTERN OF THIS WEST TAMPA
08:56:36PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
08:56:36PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE WEST TAMPA URBAN VILLAGE AND
08:56:40PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PLANS TO DIRECT THE GROWTH TO VILLAGES.
08:56:44PM SUBJECT SITE IS ONE BLOCK EAST OF NORTH HOWARD AVENUE A
08:56:49PM TRANSIT CORRIDOR AND SUITABLE FOR INTENSIFICATION AND TWO
08:56:53PM AND A HALF MILES FROM TAMPA'S DOWNTOWN CORE.
08:56:56PM PROPOSED REZONING WILL ENCOURAGE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN
08:57:00PM UNDERUTILIZED LOSS AND HOUSING CHOICES IN THE URBAN VILLAGE.
08:57:05PM THE APPLICANT SHOULD ADDRESS ALL APPLICABLE PLAN POLICIES
08:57:10PM DURING THE SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS.
08:57:12PM ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTIFAMILY OR SINGLE-FAMILY
08:57:15PM ATTACH AND USES SHOULD EN ORIENTED TOWARD A NEIGHBORHOOD
08:57:21PM SIDEWALK OR STREET.
08:57:22PM DUE TO THE SITE BEING WITHIN THE COASTAL PLANNING AREA,
08:57:25PM SPECIFICALLY EVACUATION ZONE D, SHALL MITIGATE ANY IMPACTS
08:57:31PM ON SHELTER SPACE DEMANDS AND ENSURE ANY IMPACTS SHELTER
08:57:37PM SPACE DEMANDS ARE MITIGATED DURING THE REVIEW SITE PLAN
08:57:40PM PROCESS.
08:57:41PM OVERALL, THE PROPOSED ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
08:57:44PM CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE LONG-RANGE
08:57:47PM DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON THE 35 LAND USE DESIGNATION.
08:57:52PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
08:57:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
08:57:56PM STATE YOUR NAME.
08:57:56PM >> SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
08:58:00PM START WITH OUR AERIAL MAP.
08:58:02PM SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED ON NORTH BEACH.
08:58:05PM TO THE NORTH AROUND CONRAD AND SOUTH AROUND APPROXIMATELY
08:58:09PM MET TOE.
08:58:10PM THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED NOT PRIMARILY
08:58:15PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
08:58:16PM RS-50 ON BEACH STREET.
08:58:18PM AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE RM-16 ALONG BE WITH COMMERCIAL
08:58:22PM NEIGHBORHOOD ZONING.
08:58:23PM WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WAREHOUSE HERE.
08:58:26PM ALONG ALBANY.
08:58:27PM WE HAVE A CONVENIENCE STORE AND A GENTLEMEN'S CLUB.
08:58:33PM FARTHER DOWN A CIGAR FACTORY RECOGNIZED UNDER COMMERCIAL
08:58:38PM INTENSIVE USE THAT IS BEING REPURPOSED AND THE CIGAR FACTORY
08:58:43PM FARTHER TO THE SOUTH ON THE CORNER OF WEST CONRAD STREET AND
08:58:48PM NORTHERN AVENUE.
08:58:48PM PD FOR THREE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNITS AND A BLOCK AND A
08:58:55PM HALF FROM THE SITE IS THE ROME YARD DEVELOPMENT.
08:58:57PM REZ 22-13 SINGLE-FAMILY UNITS BEEN -- UNITS HAVE BEEN
08:59:09PM APPROVED.
08:59:10PM EUCLIDIAN, I HAVE PICTURES FROM THE SURROUNDING SUBJECT
08:59:13PM SITE.
08:59:13PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE.
08:59:15PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH FROM WEST BEACH.
08:59:19PM THIS IS THE PINK HOUSE THAT IS DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE
08:59:24PM VACANT SITE.
08:59:25PM LOOKING WEST ON NORTH BEACH.
08:59:26PM THIS IS TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING NORTH AGAIN.
08:59:33PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST ON BEACH.
08:59:36PM SO YOU CAN SEE THAT COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE THERE AND SOME OF
08:59:39PM THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE
08:59:43PM AND RM-16 ZONING DISTRICT.
08:59:45PM A LITTLE BIT CLOSER VIEW OF THOSE.
08:59:47PM TWO OF THEM WERE IN THE PAST PICTURES LOOKING SOUTH AGAIN.
08:59:51PM THEN THE SAME HOUSE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER OVER, YOU CAN SEE
08:59:55PM THE WALL SEPARATING THE SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSE FROM THE
08:59:57PM COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSE.
08:59:58PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST TOWARD ALBANY.
09:00:01PM A BETTER VIEW OF THE COMMERCIAL WAREHOUSES ON THAT BLOCK.
09:00:04PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST TOWARD ROME YARD.
09:00:07PM YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE.
09:00:09PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION AND COMPLIANCE STAFF REVIEWED THE
09:00:20PM APPLICATION AND FIND THE REQUEST TO BE CONSISTENT.
09:00:22PM WHILE SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED AND MULTIFAMILY UNITS HAVE BEEN
09:00:25PM APPROVED IN PROXIMITY TO THE SUBJECT SITE, THE CURRENT
09:00:28PM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN DIRECTLY SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT SITE IS
09:00:32PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
09:00:33PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
09:00:36PM QUESTIONS.
09:00:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:00:38PM ANY QUESTIONS?
09:00:41PM YES, MA'AM.
09:00:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR NATURAL RESOURCES THAT
09:00:43PM MIGHT INCLUDE -- YEAH.
09:00:44PM SO THERE WAS ANOTHER PHOTO THAT REALLY CAPTURED MY
09:00:49PM ATTENTION.
09:00:50PM I THINK IT WAS THE FIRST PHOTO.
09:00:52PM THAT TREE IS OBVIOUSLY NOT ON THIS PROPERTY, CORRECT?
09:00:58PM >>ERIN MAHER: THAT'S CORRECT, ERIN MAHER, NATURAL
09:01:01PM RESOURCES.
09:01:02PM THAT IS A GRAND LIVE OAK AND PRESERVATION QUALITY AND THE
09:01:05PM LIMB EXPENDS ABOUT 67 FEET ON TO THE SITE.
09:01:10PM AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE WITHIN ANSI 300 STANDARDS WHEN
09:01:16PM THEY PRUNE AND CAN'T REMOVE MORE THAN 20% OF THE CROWN AT
09:01:21PM ONE TIME.
09:01:22PM THIS IS EUCLIDIAN, SO THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED OR ASSESSED AT
09:01:26PM THIS POINT IN TIME.
09:01:26PM BUT IT WILL BE QUESTIONABLE TO DO THAT.
09:01:31PM I WILL SAY SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURE OF THIS TREE -- I MEAN
09:01:36PM YOU CAN SEE -- THIS THE LIMB THAT EXTENDS OUT.
09:01:39PM AND -- AND THAT APPEARS TO ME THAT THAT IS MORE LIKE 30%.
09:01:45PM 25% OF THE TREE'S CROWN.
09:01:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
09:01:50PM THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.
09:01:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
09:01:52PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:01:54PM SIR.
09:01:57PM YES, MA'AM.
09:01:57PM YOU ARE THE APPLICANT.
09:01:59PM WERE YOU SWORN IN?
09:02:01PM YES, I WAS.
09:02:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME UP AND YOU MAY PRESENT.
09:02:04PM >> THANK YOU FOR STAYING LATE.
09:02:05PM AND I AM THE AUTHORIZED AGENT ON THE APPLICATION THAT LISTS
09:02:11PM MY HUSBAND, PAUL POP AS THE APPLICANT REQUESTING THIS
09:02:15PM REZONING, 41911 WEST BEACH STREET.
09:02:20PM I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THIS GRAND TREE SITUATION, BECAUSE
09:02:25PM ACTUALLY THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE DID ACQUIRE THIS
09:02:28PM PROPERTY.
09:02:29PM OUR CURRENT PROPERTY -- THE REASON WHY WE GOT OUR OWN HOME,
09:02:34PM LAND, 11 YEARS AGO WAS BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY PLOT THAT HAD
09:02:38PM A GRAND OAK TREE IN THE BACK YARD CAN BE VISIBLE BY ANY
09:02:43PM AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY.
09:02:44PM THIS PARTICULAR GRAND OAK TREE, THE PROPERTY WAS ACQUIRED IN
09:02:48PM FULL ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF ITS EXISTENCE AND WITH THE FULL
09:02:52PM COMMITMENT OF PRESERVING IT.
09:02:53PM AND TO SHOW THAT WE WERE TRULY COMMITTED TO THIS.
09:02:58PM WELL, FIRST OF ALL, WE DID NOT COME IN FRONT OF THIS COUNCIL
09:03:02PM AS SOON AS WE ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY.
09:03:03PM IT TOOK US SOME TIME TO THINK WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH
09:03:06PM IT.
09:03:06PM HOW WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, UTILIZE IT, DEVELOP IT.
09:03:11PM HOWEVER, WE DID ENGAGE THE SERVICES OF CERTIFIED ARBORIST,
09:03:17PM MARK HUGHES WITH ARBORIST ON BOARD.
09:03:23PM THAT IS ACTUAL LEGAL BEFORE WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
09:03:26PM UNDERSTAND WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THE
09:03:29PM TREE.
09:03:29PM THEN LATER ON, WAY AFTER WE GOT THE PROPERTY, WE OBTAINED,
09:03:34PM WE WORKED WITH MARK, AND WE GOT THIS 11-PAGE REPORT ABOUT
09:03:38PM WHAT WE CAN TO DO MITIGATE, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE -- TO BE ABLE
09:03:44PM TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, BUT ALSO TO PRESERVE THE TREE.
09:03:46PM AND IN ANSWER TO YOUR CONCERN.
09:03:48PM THIS REPORT WILL -- ONCE WE SUBMIT IT EVENTUALLY WITH THE
09:03:53PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, WE WILL DEMONSTRATE THAT WE ARE TRYING
09:03:56PM TO KEEP THE PRUNING DOWN TO A MINIMUM, MAYBE 10% AT MOST OF
09:04:02PM THE GRAND OAK TREE.
09:04:04PM WITH THAT RESPECT, OUR SUBMISSION AND PETITION IS EXTREMELY
09:04:08PM SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT WAS ON NUMBER 5 OF THE AGENDA TODAY
09:04:11PM BY ALEX RIOS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE A GRAND OAK TREE ON
09:04:17PM OUR PROPERTY AND NEEDED THE CREATIVITY AND -- AND THE EFFORT
09:04:21PM TO MAKE IT WORK.
09:04:22PM SO THAT IS ACTUALLY THE REASON BEHIND THIS PARTICULAR
09:04:26PM PETITION.
09:04:26PM BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL OPTION ASIDE FROM
09:04:31PM JUST BUILDING A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
09:04:34PM WE WANTED TO HAVE POTENTIALLY THE OPTION TO BUILD, YOU KNOW,
09:04:38PM A TWO-FAMILY HOME, SEMI DETACHED IN ORDER TO UTILIZE, YOU
09:04:43PM KNOW, TO MAKE MOST USE OUT OF THE PROPERTY CONSIDERING THAT
09:04:46PM WE HAVE TO PROVIDE NOR 21-FOOT RADIUS TO PROTECT THE TREE.
09:04:51PM JUST LIKE IN ALEX RIOS' CASE.
09:04:55PM SO THAT IS, AGAIN, THE REASON BEHIND -- THE BIGGEST REASON
09:04:59PM WE CAME IN FRONT OF YOU, THE COUNCIL, WITH THIS REQUEST FOR
09:05:02PM THE REZONING, TO BASICALLY HAVE THE ADDITIONAL OPTION.
09:05:06PM BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW YET WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
09:05:08PM BUT, AGAIN, THE TREE WILL BE PROTECTED.
09:05:11PM THE REPORT -- I AM SURE SAM, IF WE SUBMITTED THE REPORT TO
09:05:18PM YOU.
09:05:18PM BUT WE CAN GIVE IT TO YOU IF SO NEEDED OF THE ARBORIST AND
09:05:23PM PART OF THE PLANNED TRANSMISSION AT THE TIME WE WERE TO AT
09:05:27PM THE SIDE TO DEVELOP THE LAND.
09:05:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:05:30PM ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
09:05:33PM IF NOT, I WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:05:35PM NO?
09:05:36PM ALL RIGHT.
09:05:36PM >> OH, I AM SORRY.
09:05:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.
09:05:46PM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
09:05:48PM >> I WANT TO SAY TWO GOOD TREE PROJECTS TONIGHT AND CARROLL
09:05:51PM ANNE HAS BEEN OUT THERE BOTH TIMES AND SHE WOULD BE, LIKE,
09:05:55PM SO ELATED.
09:05:55PM I AM UP HERE SPEAKING FOR CARROLL ANNE.
09:05:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS YOUR NAME.
09:06:00PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
09:06:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. WHITMORE.
09:06:06PM YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
09:06:08PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
09:06:10PM >> BOB WHITMORE, CITY TREE.
09:06:12PM I WAS WATCHING DOWNSTAIRS, AND I SAW THERE WAS AN AWFUL LOT
09:06:17PM OF PANIC -- AND I CAME UP HERE.
09:06:19PM I SAW A LOT OF PRUNING THAT WILL BE DONE.
09:06:23PM AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WHEN THEY BUY THIS PROPERTY, YOUR
09:06:26PM INTENTIONS ARE GREAT.
09:06:27PM AND I AM SURE THEY ARE.
09:06:28PM BUT THINGS -- THINGS EVENTUALLY CHANGE.
09:06:30PM WILL -- WILL WE BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMETHING DOESN'T
09:06:36PM CHANGE AFTER THAT WHERE THE TREE IS COMPROMISED OR IS THERE
09:06:43PM A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT -- IT IS A BIG ONE.
09:06:45PM IT'S A BIG ONE.
09:06:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:06:49PM >> THANK YOU.
09:06:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN THAT BE CLARIFIED?
09:06:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, MISS MAHER.
09:06:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THIS WERE TO GO FORWARD, COULD IT BE
09:06:58PM PART OF THE SITE PLAN, THE CONDITIONS, THE REVISION, THE
09:07:01PM WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, WHERE THE TREE IS, YOU KNOW,
09:07:05PM HAS TO BE PROTECTED?
09:07:07PM >>ERIN MAHER: YEAH, ERIN MAHER, LANDS DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
09:07:11PM IF ANYTHING WERE TO CHANGE LET'S SAY THEY NEEDED TO REMOVE
09:07:15PM IT BECAUSE THE IMPACTS WERE TOO FREIGHT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO
09:07:18PM GO TO A VRB TO REMOVE THAT TREE.
09:07:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A PROCESS IN PLACE.
09:07:23PM >> FOR REMOVAL.
09:07:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU CAN GO IN A PROCESS TO REMOVE A TREE THAT
09:07:30PM IS NOT IN YOUR OWN YARD.
09:07:31PM >> I AM NOT SURE IF --
09:07:34PM >> THE TREE IS ON THE PROPERTY.
09:07:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP.
09:07:36PM >> LIANA MORGINIAN.
09:07:41PM THE TREE -- BASED ON THE LAND ASSESSMENT AND ON THE SITE
09:07:44PM PLANS AND ALL, THE TREE IS ON THE PROPERTY.
09:07:48PM IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE PART LEAVE SHARED WITH THE NEIGHBOR
09:07:54PM ONLY BECAUSE IT GREW -- THE PORTION OF THE TRUNK THAT GREW
09:07:59PM OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHICH IS PROBABLY LESS THAN TEN
09:08:03PM NUMBERS, BUT IT WOULD BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
09:08:05PM IT IS -- THE TREE -- THE ROOTS OF THE TREES ARE ON THIS
09:08:09PM PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
09:08:10PM YES.
09:08:10PM AND LIKE I SAID, THE INTENTIONS WERE TO PRUNE LESS THAN 10%
09:08:18PM OF THE TREE IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE WHATEVER BUILD THERE MAY
09:08:27PM BE.
09:08:27PM WE CONSIDERED ALL KINDS OF OPTIONS.
09:08:28PM AND JUST LIKE IN THE CASE OF ALEX RIOS ARE, WE WERE PLANNING
09:08:35PM TO SHIFT A GARAGE AND CARPORT ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST SIDE
09:08:38PM OF THE PROPERTY TO PROVIDE THE CLEAR -- YOU KNOW, TO
09:08:41PM OPTIMIZE THE LAYOUT, WHILE PROVIDING ALL THE CLEARANCE
09:08:45PM NECESSARY FOR THE CROWN OF THE TREE AS FAR AS IT EXTENDS
09:08:49PM WHICH IS ACTUALLY ALMOST CLOSE TO -- TODAY, IT IS CLOSE TO
09:08:53PM HALF OF THE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY.
09:08:56PM SO THE PROPERTY IS 107 FEET.
09:08:58PM THE CROWN OF THE TREE EXTENDS ALMOST BY 50 FEET AT ITS
09:09:03PM WIDEST.
09:09:03PM RIGHT NOW, IT IS -- I HAVE DIMENSIONS -- I HAVE TO MENTION
09:09:08PM THE FACT THAT THE REPORT WILL SHOW WHILE THAT IS CORRECT,
09:09:11PM THE TREE HAS NOT BEEN PRESERVED TODAY BECAUSE THOSE BRANCHES
09:09:15PM THAT ARE AT THE EXTREME PERIMETER OF THE TREE CROWN ARE
09:09:23PM ALMOST -- LIKE I CAN TOUCH THEM.
09:09:26PM THAT IS HOW I CAN SAY THEY WILL EXTEND FAR OUT, BECAUSE THEY
09:09:29PM ARE VERY LOW.
09:09:30PM SO THEY HAVE NOT -- THE TREE HAS NOT BEEN PRUNED AND
09:09:34PM MAINTAINED PROPERLY.
09:09:35PM THE REST OF THE PROPERTY SINCE WE ACQUIRED IT TO KEEP IT
09:09:38PM NICE AND CLEAN.
09:09:39PM AND -- SO, YEAH, JUST DETAILS THAT I CAN GIVE FROM YOU
09:09:45PM LEARNING INFORMATION AND DISCUSSING IT WITH THE ARBORISTS.
09:09:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:09:51PM >> SURE.
09:09:52PM >>ERIN MAHER: ERIN MAHER, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
09:09:56PM THEY CAN DO OTHER THINGS LIKE GET A DESIGN EXCEPTION IF THEY
09:09:59PM NEEDED TO ADJUST THEIR SETBACKS SOMEWHAT OR POTENTIALLY EVEN
09:10:03PM A VARIANCE IF THEY NEEDED TO GO BEYOND WHAT IS ALLOWED
09:10:06PM WITHIN THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.
09:10:08PM SO THERE COULD BE OTHER METHODS TO TRY TO PRESERVE THAT
09:10:12PM TREE.
09:10:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT HERE, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO
09:10:16PM PRESERVE THE TREE WITH THE -- WITH JUST A EUCLIDIAN
09:10:20PM REZONING?
09:10:20PM >>ERIN MAHER: NOT WITH A EUCLIDIAN.
09:10:23PM NO SITE PLAN.
09:10:24PM AND NOT REALLY ANY CONDITIONS TO PUT ON ANYTHING.
09:10:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:10:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:10:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO VERIFY THIS.
09:10:34PM AND I AM READING THIS CORRECT.
09:10:36PM THIS LOT IS ONLY 5 --
09:10:43PM >> 50 X 100.
09:10:45PM 50 X 107.
09:10:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW WILL YOU SQUEEZE MULTIFAMILY --
09:10:53PM >> ACCORDING -- THANK YOU.
09:10:54PM SO -- LET ME SEE IF I CAN WORK THIS.
09:11:00PM YES, THIS IS THE SURVEY.
09:11:02PM AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE TREE IS -- IS RIGHT HERE.
09:11:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WILL HAVE A 20-FOOT PROTECTIVE RADIUS
09:11:13PM FROM THAT.
09:11:14PM >> 21.
09:11:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RIGHT NOW YOU ARE -- SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT
09:11:17PM YOU ARE ASKING FOR MULTIFAMILY.
09:11:19PM WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY ON THAT TINY LOT.
09:11:23PM >> I WANT TO CLARIFY, WHETHER IT IS ONE SINGLE-FAMILY OR
09:11:27PM WHETHER TWO RESIDENTIAL FAMILIES, THE FOOTPRINT OF THE
09:11:32PM BUILDING WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
09:11:34PM BECAUSE WE WOULD TRY TO OPTIMIZE WHATEVER SPACE WE CAN GET
09:11:38PM OUT OF THE LAND OUTSIDE OF THE -- YOU KNOW, PROTECTING THE
09:11:43PM TREE.
09:11:43PM RIGHT NOW WITH THE RM-18, THE SPECIFICATION WAS MADE THAT WE
09:11:48PM ARE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF TWO DWELLINGS.
09:11:51PM AND ACCORDING THIS PARTICULAR RM-18 ZONING, ALLOWS FOR
09:12:00PM MAXIMUM DWELLING FOR 2400 SQUARE FEET WHICH IS MORE THAN
09:12:04PM ENOUGH, LET'S SAY, IMAGINE --
09:12:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT YOU HAVE SETBACKS TOO.
09:12:08PM >> YES, WE HAVE THE SETBACKS WHICH WERE MORE THAN SATISFYING
09:12:11PM THE SETBACKS BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, THE SETBACKS WOULD BE
09:12:15PM CONSIDERED AS -- AS AN AVERAGE -- BLOCK AVERAGE, RIGHT.
09:12:20PM THANK YOU, SAM.
09:12:21PM BUT WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE GOING EVEN FURTHER BEHIND WITH OUR
09:12:28PM SETBACKS AGAIN TO ACCOMMODATE THE TREE.
09:12:30PM IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT THE REMAINDER -- THE REMAINDER OF
09:12:33PM THE -- OF THE PROPERTY HERE THAT WE WOULD WANT TO BUILD
09:12:37PM WOULD BE CLOSE TO THAT 2200 SQUARE FEET, LET'S SAY.
09:12:44PM IMAGINE ONE UNIT ON THE GROUND FLOOR AND ONE ON THE TOP,
09:12:48PM ALTHOUGH THEY MAY NOT BE SET THAT WAY.
09:12:50PM BUT JUST FOR ILLUSTRATION PURPOSES, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FIT
09:12:53PM THAT WITHIN THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING -- OF THE ZONING
09:12:59PM DISTRICT.
09:13:00PM IT MAY BE DONE SIDE BY SIDE VERTICALLY, BUT WE DON'T KNOW
09:13:04PM YET.
09:13:04PM JUST SPECULATION AT THIS POINT I HAVE TO SAY.
09:13:06PM WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THIS OPTION, BECAUSE
09:13:09PM WHETHER WE HAVE TWO DWELLINGS OR ONE, WE ARE IN THE EXACT
09:13:14PM SAME PREDICAMENT.
09:13:16PM YOU EITHER KEEP THE LOT VACANT THERE OR TRY TO WORK WITH
09:13:20PM SOMEONE WHO IS -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE REALLY TRYING TO PRESERVE
09:13:24PM IT.
09:13:24PM AND I HOPE OUR EFFORTS GOING BACK TO JULY ARE DEMONSTRATING
09:13:28PM THAT.
09:13:28PM SO WHETHER IT IS US OR ANYBODY ELSE, THE PREDICAMENT
09:13:34PM REMAINS.
09:13:34PM AND WE ARE -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE IN FOOD FAITH TRYING TO MAKE
09:13:39PM EVERY EFFORT TO MAKE THIS WORK, OR WE WOULD NOT HAVE GOTTEN
09:13:43PM THIS LOT.
09:13:44PM WE WOULD HAVE GONE ELSEWHERE TO GET A LOT, ANOTHER LOT
09:13:47PM WITHOUT A HEADACHE.
09:13:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:13:50PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
09:13:55PM MOTION TO CLOSE?
09:13:58PM >>ERIN MAHER: ERIN MAHER, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
09:14:01PM I WANT TO POINT OUT SEEING THE SURVEY HERE.
09:14:04PM TO ME THIS APPEARS THAT THIS TREE IS OFFSITE.
09:14:07PM SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD.
09:14:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ALREADY HAD PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:14:12PM ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC --
09:14:19PM >> IT IS ALSO OUT OF PROPORTION.
09:14:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE ADD ANYTHING ELSE?
09:14:23PM YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
09:14:26PM >> I GUESS I COULD SAY THAT I AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH TO SCALE
09:14:31PM THE LITTLE TREE THAT IS PUT THERE ON THE -- ON THE
09:14:36PM TOPOGRAPHICAL SURVEY IS, BUT CLEARLY THAT IS NOT ALL THE
09:14:40PM TREE WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE.
09:14:42PM I THINK IT WAS -- I CANNOT SPEAK FOR OF THE SURVEYOR, BUT IF
09:14:46PM YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY LINE, WHILE ON THE PROPERTY, IT IS
09:14:52PM ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT THIS TREE IS -- IS ON THIS PROPERTY.
09:14:56PM AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO SAY THAT IT IS NOT AT THIS POINT,
09:15:01PM IT IS ON OUR PROPERTY.
09:15:02PM AND LIKE I SAID, WE COMMITTED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO
09:15:05PM PRESERVE IT, EVEN BEYOND WHAT THE MOST STRINGENT
09:15:09PM REQUIREMENTS MAY BE SO I DON'T KNOW OF THE PROPORTION OF
09:15:14PM THAT BUSHY LOOKING THING THERE.
09:15:17PM I DON'T KNOW.
09:15:18PM I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT.
09:15:19PM I AM SORRY.
09:15:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:15:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST A QUESTION MAYBE FOR STAFF OR LEGAL.
09:15:26PM IF -- IF THIS WERE TO COME UP FOR A VARIANCE FOR THE TREE,
09:15:35PM THIS TESTIMONY WOULD BE ADMISSIBLE TO THAT CASE, CORRECT?
09:15:43PM OR INCORRECT?
09:15:53PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
09:15:54PM I MEAN, THE TESTIMONY GIVEN TODAY BY THE PROPERTY OWNER IS
09:15:59PM SWORN TESTIMONY.
09:16:00PM THERE IS NO REQUIREMENTS IN THE CODE THAT THIS TYPE OF
09:16:04PM TESTIMONY TRAVELS WITH ANY OTHER APPLICATION THAT IS FILED
09:16:08PM AS IT RELATES TO THIS PARCEL BUT COULD SOMEONE THERE AFTER,
09:16:15PM A NEIGHBOR PERHAPS TESTIFY AS TO WHAT WAS SAID PREVIOUSLY,
09:16:21PM YES.
09:16:21PM BUT IN WHAT CONTEXT, IT WOULD BE HARD TO SPECULATE.
09:16:24PM NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE TESTIMONY THAT A RECORD OF THIS
09:16:28PM HEARING WOULD THEN BE PART OF THAT FUTURE VRB HEARING.
09:16:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:16:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:16:35PM ANYTHING ELSE?
09:16:36PM ANYTHING ELSE?
09:16:37PM IF NOT, I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE.
09:16:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOTION CLOSE.
09:16:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
09:16:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL.
09:16:47PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:16:48PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ 7?
09:16:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM GOING TO PREFACE 7 WITH THIS.
09:16:55PM WE -- WE NEED DENSITY IN THE CITY.
09:17:03PM IT'S RARE THAT WE GET A DEVELOPER THAT COMES IN FRONT OF US
09:17:07PM THAT SAYS THEY BOUGHT A PROPERTY BECAUSE OF A TREE.
09:17:09PM AND THE FACT THAT THIS PROPERTY OWNER IS THROWING OUT
09:17:19PM NUMBERS THAT ARE SMALL AND REASONABLE TO A MULTIFAMILY
09:17:22PM PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE ON SUCH A SMALL SITE IN A
09:17:25PM NEIGHBORHOOD THAT TRADITIONALLY HAS SMALLER HOMES.
09:17:28PM SO I AM -- I AM JUST GOING -- I AM GOING TO HOPE THAT THIS
09:17:34PM WORKS OUT.
09:17:35PM AND I REALLY -- I WANT THIS TO BE A PROJECT THAT CAN BE A
09:17:41PM MODEL FOR PROPERTY GOING FORWARD WITH GRAND TREES ON IT.
09:17:45PM SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, FILE NUMBER REZ 24-08, ORDINANCE
09:17:53PM BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
09:17:56PM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL HAVE I CITIZEN
09:18:00PM TEE OF 1911 WEST BEACH STREET CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA,
09:18:05PM DESCRIBED ZONING CLASSIFICATION RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
09:18:08PM SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM-18, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING AN
09:18:13PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
09:18:13PM I HAVE ADOPT THE FINDINGS AND REASONING OF THE PLANNING
09:18:18PM COMMISSION STAFF REPORT THAT RESIDENTIAL-35 LAND USE
09:18:23PM DESIGNATION ALLOWS UP TO FOUR DWELLING -- AM I -- NO, ALLOWS
09:18:28PM UP TO FOUR DWELLINGS ON THE SITE AN EXISTING DENSITY IN THE
09:18:34PM AREA IS 20% OF THE DENSITY PLANNED UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL-35
09:18:40PM LAND USE DESIGNATION.
09:18:42PM THE REZONING WHICH WOULD ALLOW UP TO TWO DWELLING UNITS
09:18:46PM SUPPORT POLICIES 2.1.2.
09:18:48PM 5.1.1.
09:18:51PM 9.6.2.
09:18:53PM 9.6.4.
09:18:54PM PAL SO HE 1.1.17 WHICH SEEKS TO USE LAND RESOURCE MORES
09:19:00PM EFFICIENTLY WITH INFILL DEVELOPMENT ON UNDERUTILIZED SITES.
09:19:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:19:09PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
09:19:11PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:19:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS, BECAUSE IT
09:19:14PM REALLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I SAID IN THE PREVIOUS ISSUE
09:19:16PM THAT WAS BEFORE COUNCIL ABOUT SOMETHING BEING DEEP IN A
09:19:21PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:19:21PM THIS IS DEEP INTO A SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE ARE
09:19:23PM CHANGING THE ZONING.
09:19:24PM I THINK -- I AGREE WITH STAFF -- DEVELOPMENT STAFF'S FINDING
09:19:29PM OF INCONSISTENT BECAUSE OF THAT.
09:19:32PM THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THIS AREA IS ALL SINGLE-FAMILY.
09:19:35PM IT IS NOT ON THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR.
09:19:37PM IT DOESN'T ABUT COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
09:19:40PM IT -- I DON'T FIND ANY REASON TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM ITS
09:19:44PM EXISTING STATUS, THANK YOU.
09:19:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, ROLL CALL VOTE.
09:19:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
09:19:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
09:19:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
09:19:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:19:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
09:19:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
09:19:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
09:20:00PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN VOTING NO.
09:20:03PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 7, 2024 AT
09:20:09PM 9:30 A.M., LOCATED AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 E. KENNEDY
09:20:15PM BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 3602.
09:20:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
09:20:21PM HE WILL TAKE A 20-MINUTE RECESS.
09:20:23PM MR. SHELBY.
09:20:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THE
09:20:29PM CHAMBERS, THERE IS A PROCESS TO BEGIN BRINGING PEOPLE UP
09:20:32PM FROM DOWNSTAIRS.
09:20:33PM I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WAITING.
09:20:36PM A PROCESS HAS BEEN INSTITUTED WHERE IT IS IN NUMERICAL
09:20:42PM ORDER.
09:20:42PM I AM GOING TO ASK, MR. CHAIRMAN, WITH YOUR APPROVAL TO ASK
09:20:46PM EVERYBODY BUT THE ATTORNEYS FOR THE APPLICANT WHO ARE GOING
09:20:49PM TO BE PRESENTING.
09:20:50PM EVERYBODY ELSE WOULD PLEASE CLEAR THE CHAMBERS TO BRING IN
09:20:54PM THE PEOPLE IN NUMERICAL ORDER PLEASE.
09:20:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:21:04PM WE ARE IN RECESS FOR 20 MINUTES.
09:50:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
09:50:20PM ROLL CALL.
09:50:21PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:50:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:50:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
09:50:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:50:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:50:30PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:50:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:50:34PM MISS WELLS.
09:50:36PM >>CATE WELLS: MARTIN SHELBY WANTED TO COMMENT.
09:50:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL AND MEMBERS OF
09:50:41PM THE PUBLIC.
09:50:42PM FIRST THING I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL DO AT THIS POINT.
09:50:45PM WE ALREADY EARLIER THIS EVENING RECEIVED AND FILED EX-PARTE
09:50:49PM COMMUNICATION -- WRITTEN EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT ARE
09:50:52PM AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC INSPECTION.
09:50:54PM THAT ALREADY BEING DONE, I WILL ASK YOU RELATIVE TO THIS
09:50:58PM HAVE THERE BEEN ANY EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS THAT NEEDED TO
09:51:02PM BE DISCLOSED?
09:51:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LONG BEFORE I WAS A COUNCILPERSON, I
09:51:09PM ATTENDED A MEETING AT THE GARDEN CLUB WHERE THEY DISCUSSED
09:51:12PM THE ISSUES OF DEVELOPMENT NEXT DOOR.
09:51:15PM I DIDN'T NECESSARILY PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSIONS OTHER
09:51:19PM THAN IN CASUAL WAY, BUT I WAS NOT ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME.
09:51:23PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU CAN BE FAIR AND IMPARTIAL BASED ON THE
09:51:26PM EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD TODAY?
09:51:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
09:51:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANYBODY ELSE?
09:51:29PM OKAY.
09:51:29PM THANK YOU.
09:51:30PM THE OTHER THING THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE -- I HAVE
09:51:33PM DISCUSSED WITH THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE MR. KRAMER WAS
09:51:39PM THE ORDER OF BUSINESS OF TAKING PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:51:41PM AND THE SUGGESTION IS THAT AFTER THE STAFF PRESENTATION, THE
09:51:45PM PETITIONER HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THEIR TIME FOR A
09:51:49PM PRESENTATION.
09:51:49PM AND THE REQUEST THEN IS TO HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
09:51:56PM TEMPLE, RODEPH SHALOM SPEAK.
09:52:02PM HOW MANY MR. KRAMER?
09:52:05PM >> THREE.
09:52:05PM >> FOLLOWING THAT, THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE GARDEN
09:52:08PM CLUB.
09:52:08PM AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE THREE REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL, IF I
09:52:12PM UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY.
09:52:13PM DO YOU RECALL WHO THEY ARE, SIR?
09:52:16PM I KNOW MR. PRESSMAN IS ONE.
09:52:18PM AND THEN THERE ARE TWO OTHERS.
09:52:20PM AND I BELIEVE THEY EACH HAVE SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS.
09:52:22PM YOUR NAME IS --
09:52:24PM >> CHARLES GOTIER.
09:52:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, COUNSEL, YOUR NAME IS --
09:52:30PM >> JANE GRAHAM.
09:52:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JANE GRAHAM, I BELIEVE THAT IS WITH THE
09:52:34PM AGREEMENT OF MR. KRAMER.
09:52:36PM >> YES, SIR.
09:52:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AT THAT POINT FORWARD, WE WILL BE GOING IN
09:52:41PM NUMERICAL ORDER AS MISS EDWARDS STATED.
09:52:43PM IF WE AGREE TO THAT.
09:52:45PM THANK YOU, MISS WELLS, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
09:52:47PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
09:52:49PM MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.
09:52:51PM WE ARE HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 8, ITEM NUMBER REZ 24-06.
09:52:59PM I WANTED TO BRIEFLY ADDRESS COUNCIL ON ISSUE BEFORE I TURN
09:53:03PM IT OVER TO STAFF FOR THE INITIAL PRESENTATION.
09:53:05PM MANY OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS WILL REMEMBER REZONING THAT
09:53:08PM INVOLVED THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS CONSIDERED BY CITY COUNCIL
09:53:11PM ON MAY 11 OF 2023.
09:53:13PM IT WAS UNDER PETITION NUMBER REZ 22-93.
09:53:19PM THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS ASKED AS TO WHY IT IS PERMITTED
09:53:23PM FOR THIS ITEM TO COME BEFORE COUNCIL ON ANOTHER PETITION FOR
09:53:28PM REZONING WHEN 12 MONTHS HAVE NOT GONE BY SINCE THE LAST
09:53:33PM DENIAL.
09:53:33PM SECTION 27-150 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE
09:53:39PM DOES PROHIBIT THE CONSIDERATION OF A REZONINGS INVOLVING THE
09:53:44PM SAME PARCEL FOR A PERIOD OF 12 MONTHS AFTER A DENIAL;
09:53:49PM HOWEVER, THERE IS THE ABILITY BY CODE FOR THAT 12-MONTH
09:53:54PM PERIOD TO BE WAIVED IF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FINDS THAT
09:53:58PM THE NEW APPLICATION IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS
09:54:04PM CONSIDERED PREVIOUSLY AND ADDRESSES THE BASIS FOR DENIAL.
09:54:07PM SO ERIC COTTON, IN HIS POSITION AS ZONING ADMINISTRATOR,
09:54:11PM MADE THAT DETERMINATION THAT IN FACT THE PETITION THAT IS
09:54:14PM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING MAY BE CONSIDERED UNDER THAT
09:54:18PM 12-MONTH PERIOD BECAUSE IT COMPLIES WITH THE CRITERIA IN THE
09:54:22PM CODE.
09:54:23PM SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT DECISION ITSELF IS NOT
09:54:27PM BEFORE COUNCIL TO BE DEBATED.
09:54:28PM THAT DECISION HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE.
09:54:30PM SO TO THE EXTENT THAT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WANTED TO
09:54:34PM ADDRESS THAT, I WOULD RECOMMEND THEY SPEND THEIR THREE
09:54:37PM MINUTES OR HOWEVER MUCH TIME THEY HAVE ON ISSUES THAT ARE
09:54:40PM PROPERLY BEFORE THIS COUNCIL AND NOT THE ISSUE OF THIS BEING
09:54:45PM CONSIDERED UNDER A 12-MONTH PERIOD.
09:54:48PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
09:54:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
09:54:54PM THANK YOU.
09:54:54PM YES, SIR?
09:54:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, AS FOR THE COUNCIL AND
09:55:00PM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO REMIND YOU, COUNCIL, THIS
09:55:04PM DECISION SHOULD BE BASED ON COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
09:55:07PM YOU ALL HEARD THAT EVIDENCE THAT IS BOTH RELEVANT AND
09:55:11PM MATERIAL TO THE DECISION YOU HAVE TO MAKE.
09:55:13PM YOU HAVE THE CRITERIA OF THE CODE IN FRONT OF YOU.
09:55:16PM I ASK THAT YOU REFER TO IT.
09:55:18PM YOU ARE GOING TO BE FINDERS OF FACT.
09:55:20PM IN THAT CAPACITY, TO MAKE A DETERMINATION, YOU TAKE THE
09:55:24PM FACTS AS YOU FIND THEM AND YOU APPLY THEM TO THE CRITERIA IN
09:55:27PM THE CODE IN ORDER TO ARRIVE AT YOUR DECISION.
09:55:31PM I WILL ASK THE PUBLIC TO REMAIN MINDFUL OF COUNCIL'S
09:55:35PM RESPONSIBILITY.
09:55:36PM AND TO DECIDE THIS CASE IN FACT BASED UPON COMPETENT,
09:55:41PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
09:55:42PM AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT --
09:55:47PM ONE IN PARTICULAR IS THE NUMBER OF SIGNATURES ON A PETITION.
09:55:50PM THE COURT HAS FOUND IS NOT COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
09:55:54PM SO WITH THAT IN MIND, COUNCIL, I WILL JUST ASK YOU TO BE
09:56:00PM MINDFUL OF YOUR OBLIGATION AND LISTEN TO THE FACTS.
09:56:03PM TAKE THE TESTIMONY.
09:56:04PM RELY ON THE EVIDENCE.
09:56:05PM AND APPLY THE CODE.
09:56:07PM AND I THANK YOU.
09:56:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:56:10PM YES, MA'AM.
09:56:11PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
09:56:13PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
09:56:16PM I CAN GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE ITEM NUMBER 8, REZ 24-06 FOR
09:56:23PM THE PROPERTY LOCATED 2017 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
09:56:27PM THE APPLICATION IS REPRESENTED BY JACOB KRAMER, PD PLANNED
09:56:35PM DEVELOPMENT FOR RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY AND PD FOR RELIGIOUS FROM
09:56:42PM ASSEMBLY AND MULTIFAMILY ON-SITE.
09:56:44PM I WILL TURN TO EMILY TO GIVE HER REPORT.
09:56:47PM AND THEN I WILL COME BACK AND GIVE MY REPORT.
09:56:49PM >>EMILY PHELAN: EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
09:57:00PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING
09:57:03PM DISTRICT AND BAYSHORE GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD.
09:57:06PM THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND
09:57:09PM EVACUATION ZONE A.
09:57:11PM AN AERIAL OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED HERE AND SURROUNDING
09:57:15PM AREA CONTAIN AS MIXTURE OF USES.
09:57:17PM THIS SEGMENT OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD CONTAINS LIGHT
09:57:20PM COMMERCIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED, SINGLE-FAMILY
09:57:24PM RESIDENTIAL, PUBLIC USES AND MULTIFAMILY USES.
09:57:27PM BAYSHORE PRESBYTERIAN APARTMENTS ARE HERE.
09:57:29PM I AM GOING TO BUTCHER THIS -- ARTURO BAYSHORE IS LOCATED HERE
09:57:37PM AND OFFICES ARE LOCATED TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE AS
09:57:41PM WELL.
09:57:41PM THIS IS THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
09:57:42PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE AND REPRESENTED WITH THE
09:57:45PM RESIDENTIAL-35 FUTURE LANDS USE DESIGNATION.
09:57:48PM THIS PINK COLOR IS A COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 DESIGNATION.
09:57:52PM THE DARK BROWN IS RESIDENTIAL-83.
09:57:54PM AND RESIDENTIAL-50 IS DOWN HERE.
09:57:56PM THE RESIDENTIAL-35 DESIGNATION ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF
09:58:01PM MEDIUM DENSITY RECOMMENDATION USES INCLUDING MULTIFAMILY.
09:58:04PM THE MULTIFAMILY USES AND PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY CAN BE
09:58:09PM CONSIDERED WITHIN THE R-35 DESIGNATION.
09:58:12PM THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIRED TO 18,400 SQUARE FOOT OF
09:58:18PM ASSEMBLY 3323 SQUARE FEET.
09:58:22PM AFTER SUBTRACTING THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIRED, 1.43 ACRES
09:58:27PM CAN BE CONSIDERED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
09:58:29PM THE PD PROPOSES 42 DWELLING UNITS ON THE REMAINING 1.4
09:58:35PM ACRES.
09:58:35PM SINCE THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS BELOW 30 UNITS PER ACRE, A
09:58:40PM BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENT IS NOT REQUIRED.
09:58:43PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THE REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH
09:58:45PM THE DENSITY AND INTENSITY ANTICIPATED UNDER THE
09:58:49PM RESIDENTIAL-35 DESIGNATION.
09:58:50PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF REVIEWED THE EXISTING DENSITIES OF
09:58:57PM THE SURROUNDING AREA OF THE R-35 PARCELS.
09:59:01PM EXISTING DENSITY 14.27 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE BASED ON 15
09:59:06PM SAMPLE SIZE WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 40% OF THE DENSITY
09:59:10PM ANTICIPATED UNDER THE R-35.
09:59:12PM APPROXIMATELY 4.07 ACRES TO THE WEST AND NORTHWEST OF THE
09:59:16PM SUBJECT SITE OUR PARCEL IS DESIGNATED R-83.
09:59:20PM THIS AREA HAS AN EXISTING DENSITY OF 16.12 DWELLING UNITS
09:59:24PM BASED ON FIVE SAMPLE SIZE WHICH IS 19% OF THE DENSITY
09:59:29PM ANTICIPATED UNDER THE R-83.
09:59:31PM GIVEN THE DENSITY AND INTENSITY IN THIS AREA OF THE CITY,
09:59:35PM THE SURROUNDING AREA CAN SHALL CONSIDERED UNDERDEVELOPED.
09:59:37PM AS I POINTED OUT EARLIER, THE BAYSHORE PRESBYTERIAN
09:59:41PM APARTMENTS IS A 15-STORY MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT NORTHEAST
09:59:45PM OF THE SITE ON SOUTH YSABELLA AVENUE.
09:59:48PM ARTURO BAYSHORE HERE IS A 22-STORY HIGH-RISE AND LOCATED
09:59:54PM SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE.
09:59:55PM SEVERAL 15- TO 18-STORY TOWERS ALONG THE SUBJECT SITE ALONG
10:00:01PM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND SEVERAL OTHER TALLER STRUCTURES NORTH
10:00:04PM OF THE SITE ALSO ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
10:00:08PM PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FINDS THAT THE REQUEST WILL NOT
10:00:10PM ALTER THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
10:00:12PM FURTHER SUPPORTS 2.1.1 WHICH SEEKS TO ENCOURAGE COMPACT
10:00:19PM HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE
10:00:22PM SURROUNDING CHARACTER.
10:00:22PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SEEKS TO PROMOTE PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY
10:00:25PM ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
10:00:27PM SIDEWALKS ARE PROVIDED ALONG THE ADJACENT PUBLIC
10:00:32PM RIGHTS-OF-WAY AND BUILDING ENTRANCES TO THE RESIDENTIAL
10:00:35PM DEVELOP ARE ORIENTED TOWARD SOUTH YSABELLA AVENUE.
10:00:38PM INTERNAL PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS FROM THE CROSSWALK FROM THE
10:00:42PM PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY ENTRANCE TO THE SIDEWALK.
10:00:46PM PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION ALSO HELP ENSURE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND
10:00:49PM ACCESSIBILITIES.
10:00:50PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO ENCOURAGES HIGH DENSITY,
10:00:54PM MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND PEDESTRIAN-ORIENTED URBAN AREAS
10:00:58PM WITH ACCESS TO TRANSIT, SERVICES, EMPLOYMENT AND AMENITIES.
10:01:02PM THE PD SUPPORTS THIS POLICY DIRECTION DUE TO THE SITE BEING
10:01:05PM ADJACENT TO TRANSIT SERVICES ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND
10:01:10PM WANT QUARTER MILE OF WEST BAY TO BAY AND SOUTH MacDILL
10:01:14PM AVENUE AND THIS SITE IS ALSO IN PROXIMITY OF TWO PUBLIC
10:01:17PM PARKS.
10:01:17PM THE REQUEST SUPPORTS MANY POLICIES OF HOUSING THE CITY'S
10:01:21PM POPULATION.
10:01:21PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ENCOURAGES NEW HOUSING ON VACANT AND
10:01:25PM UNDERUTILIZED LAND TO ENSURE THAT AN ADEQUATE SUPPLY OF
10:01:28PM HOUSING MEETS THE NEEDS OF TAMPA'S FUTURE AND PRESENT
10:01:31PM POPULATIONS AND WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL HOUSING CHOICES IN
10:01:35PM THE BAYSHORE GARDENS NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:01:36PM THE SUBJECT SITE WITHIN THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA AND
10:01:40PM EVACUATION ZONE A, AND WILL MITIGATE SHELTER SPACE DEMANDS
10:01:46PM AND ENSURE ANY IMPACTS ON SHELTER IS SPACE DEMANDS ARE MITIGATED
10:01:51PM DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
10:01:53PM THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS KENT WITH THE DENSITY UNDER R-35
10:01:58PM DESIGNATION AND COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE TO THE SURROUNDING
10:02:01PM AREAS.
10:02:01PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
10:02:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:02:05PM YES, MA'AM.
10:02:06PM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
10:02:10PM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:02:12PM THIS PD REZONING BEFORE US TODAY WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT USE OF
10:02:16PM THE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ALONG WITH THE EXISTING USE OF
10:02:19PM THE PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY ON-SITE.
10:02:23PM THIS REQUEST WILL ALLOW THE ADDITION AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF
10:02:27PM A RESIDENTIAL TOWER CONTAIN 4 2 UNITS.
10:02:29PM THE EXISTING PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY ON-SITE CONTAINS
10:02:33PM 18,014 SQUARE FEET.
10:02:35PM THE LOT AREA CONTAINS 93,463 -- 93,463 OR A LITTLE OVER TWO
10:02:43PM ACRES.
10:02:44PM BUILDING HEIGHT IS 317 FEET.
10:02:46PM THE SETBACKS ARE TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH 20 FEET TO THE WEST.
10:02:51PM 25 FEET.
10:02:52PM AND IT TO THE EAST 10 FEET.
10:02:54PM PARKING SPACES REQUIRED IS 179 SPACES AND 189 SPACES ARE
10:02:59PM PROVIDED.
10:03:00PM SO THIS IS THE SITE PLAN THAT WALLS SUBMITTED BY THE
10:03:06PM APPLICANT, WHICH IS ON RECORD.
10:03:07PM ZOOM IN A LITTLE CLOSER.
10:03:13PM SO THE EXISTING BUILDING -- THIS IS THE EXISTING TEMPLE
10:03:18PM BUILDING THAT WAS REFERENCED.
10:03:20PM THIS IS THE BUILDING THAT CONTAINS THE 18,014 SQUARE FEET.
10:03:26PM THIS BUILDING WILL REMAIN THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT PROPOSED FOR
10:03:29PM THIS IS 30 FEET.
10:03:30PM WILL NOT EXCEED THE 30 FEET IN HEIGHT.
10:03:34PM THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE NEW RESIDENTIAL MULTI FAMILY
10:03:36PM TOWER ON THE SITE WHICH IS ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE
10:03:39PM SITE.
10:03:39PM ON THIS SITE PLAN, YOU WILL SEE THIS IS BARCELONA STREET.
10:03:46PM THIS IS BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
10:03:49PM THIS IS YSABELLA.
10:03:50PM SO ACCESS TO THE SITE.
10:03:53PM THERE ARE TWO POINTS OF VEHICULAR ACCESS AND THIS IS ON BARS
10:03:56PM LOAN IS THAT STREET.
10:03:57PM ONE POINT MUCH ACCESS WHERE YOU HAVE AN ENTRY ONLY INGRESS,
10:04:02PM AND YOU CAN TRAVEL TO THE PARKING THAT IS LOCATED HERE TO
10:04:05PM THE WEST.
10:04:05PM THERE ARE TWO SURFACE PARKING SPACES HERE IN FRONT OF THE
10:04:09PM TEMPLE.
10:04:09PM THERE ARE ALSO TWO POINTS OF ACCESS THAT ARE LOCATED HERE
10:04:14PM ALONG THE WEST.
10:04:15PM THERE IS A VEHICULAR DRIVE, WHICH ALLOWS FOR DROP-OFF AND
10:04:19PM ACCESS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL TENANTS LOCATED ON THAT DRIVE.
10:04:24PM ELEVATIONS SUBMITTED WITH THIS REQUEST.
10:04:33PM SO THIS IS YOUR EASTERN ELEVATION.
10:04:36PM THIS IS THE NORTH ELEVATION THAT IS LOCATED HERE.
10:04:42PM AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM, YOU HAVE YOUR WEST ELEVATION HERE.
10:04:46PM AND THIS IS YOUR SOUTHERN ELEVATION THAT IS LOCATED HERE.
10:04:51PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE AERIAL OF THE SITE SO THIS IS
10:05:04PM THE SITE WHICH IS LOCATED HERE IN RED.
10:05:08PM THIS IS BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
10:05:09PM YOU CAN SEE DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE SITE THE R-75 ZONING, AS
10:05:15PM WELL AS TO THE NORTH RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, BUT ALSO THE
10:05:17PM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY LOCATED NORTH AND NORTHWEST OF THE
10:05:20PM SITE WITH THE RM-16 AND RM-57 DESIGNATION.
10:05:25PM SOUTH OF BARCELONA.
10:05:27PM YOU HAVE YOUR RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ZONING ALONG WITH A
10:05:30PM COUPLE OF RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY AND THEN THE PDs
10:05:33PM ALLOWING FOR YOUR MULTIFAMILY USES ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
10:05:37PM AND THEN I HAVE PHOTOS OF THE SITE.
10:05:40PM THIS IS THE SITE ON BAYSHORE AND THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE
10:05:53PM LOCATED HERE.
10:05:54PM LOOKING SOUTH ON BAYSHORE.
10:05:56PM THIS IS A CLOSE-UP OF THE SITE ANOTHER VIEW OF THE EASTERN
10:06:04PM BOUNDARY OF THE SITE.
10:06:05PM A DIFFERENT VIEW.
10:06:06PM THE EASTERN PORTION.
10:06:07PM THIS IS THE SITE NORTHWEST AND IF YOU ARE LOOKING EAST ON
10:06:12PM BAYSHORE.
10:06:13PM THIS IS ETERNAL TO THE SITE.
10:06:22PM THIS IS THE TEMPLE TO REMAIN.
10:06:23PM THIS IS FROM BARCELONA.
10:06:25PM IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE SITE FROM BARCELONA.
10:06:28PM THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW.
10:06:29PM THE SITE -- SOUTH OF THE SITE AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER.
10:06:37PM BARCELONA, WEST OF THE SITE ANOTHER VIEW WEST ASK WHICH IS
10:06:46PM THE MULTIFAMILY.
10:06:47PM THIS IS WEST OF THE SITE, SO THIS IS A VIEW IF YOU ARE
10:06:50PM LOOKING NORTHEAST ON IS YSABELLA.
10:06:53PM THIS IS THE SITE OFF TO THE RIGHT OF THE PICTURE.
10:06:56PM THIS IS NORTH OF THE SITE.
10:07:02PM THE GARDEN CLUB.
10:07:03PM THIS IS EAST OF THE SITE.
10:07:04PM THIS IS AT THE CORNER.
10:07:06PM THIS IS THAT ONE RESIDENTIAL THAT IS LOCATED IN THAT POCKET.
10:07:10PM THIS IS FURTHER NORTH OF THE SITE, RED BALL PARK.
10:07:15PM SOUTHWEST OF THE SITE, SWINGING BACK, NORTHWEST CORNER
10:07:19PM OF BARCELONA AND YSABELLA.
10:07:22PM AND THIS IS A PICTURE THIS IS AT THE GARDEN CLUB AND THIS IS
10:07:30PM SHOWING THE DEMO -- THE DAY CARE TO BE DEMOED.
10:07:33PM THAT IS THE VIEW LOOKING SOUTHWEST.
10:07:35PM ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION AND PUT ON TO THE RECORD.
10:07:38PM MISS WELLS GAVE AN INTRODUCTION OF THE BACKGROUND AND HOW WE
10:07:42PM GOT HERE TODAY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO PUT INTO THE RECORD THE
10:07:45PM MODIFICATIONS WHICH ARE MADE TO THE SITE PLAN FROM THE FIRST
10:07:48PM SUBMIT TOOL THIS SUBMIT THAT WILL IS BEFORE YOU NOW.
10:07:53PM JUST FOR THE RECORD TO STATE YOUR DIFFERENCES.
10:07:55PM IN NEW SITE PLAN IS NOT ASKING FOR A BONUS.
10:07:58PM THIS REQUEST ASKING FOR A REDUCTION OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS FROM
10:08:03PM THE OFFICIAL OF 50 UNITS TO THE CURRENT REQUEST OF 42 UNITS.
10:08:08PM REDUCTION IN THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING.
10:08:10PM THE NEXT CHANGE IS THAT ALL NEW WAIVERS HAVE BEEN REMOVED.
10:08:13PM THAT INITIAL REQUEST HAD FIVE WAIVERS THAT WERE REQUESTED.
10:08:17PM AND NO NEW WAIVERS WITH THIS REQUEST.
10:08:20PM ALL GRAND TREES ARE BEING RETAINED ON-SITE.
10:08:24PM AND THEN ALSO, THEY ARE RETAINING MORE THAN 50% OF THE TREES
10:08:29PM ON SITE THAT WILL BE RETAINED.
10:08:32PM SO THOSE MODIFICATIONS MADE THAT DIFFERENCE AND THE FINDING
10:08:37PM FOR THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR TO HAVE THIS COME BACK BEFORE
10:08:40PM COUNCIL.
10:08:40PM THAT, THE DRC STAFF REVIEWED THIS REQUEST AND WE FIND IT
10:08:45PM CONSISTENT.
10:08:45PM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
10:08:49PM READING.
10:08:50PM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO JONATHAN SCOTT WITH
10:08:53PM MOBILITY SO JONATHAN WITH TALK FOR A FEW MOMENTS ABOUT
10:08:57PM TRANSPORTATION.
10:08:58PM AND THEN STAFF IS AVAILABLE AFTER THAT TIME FOR ANY
10:09:01PM QUESTIONS.
10:09:02PM IS THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:09:04PM >>JONATHAN SCOTT: JONATHAN SCOTT, TRANSPORTATION.
10:09:09PM TRANSPORTATION FINDS THE PROJECT CONSISTENT.
10:09:11PM THEY WERE NOT REQUIRED TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.
10:09:14PM THEY DID PROVIDE A TRAFFIC MEMO.
10:09:16PM THERE IS A ACTUAL ACTUALLY A DECREASED IN TRAFFIC BASED ON
10:09:20PM THE EXISTING USES.
10:09:22PM THEY HAD, LIKE, A DAY CARE.
10:09:24PM BASED ON ITE TRIP GENERATION.
10:09:27PM THEY HAD AN EXISTING LOCAL STREET ACCESS WAIVER FOR THE
10:09:31PM PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY FROM THE OLD PD FROM 2005.
10:09:36PM THE MULTIFAMILY NEW USE DOESN'T REQUIRE A LOCAL STREET
10:09:40PM ACCESS WAIVER.
10:09:40PM AND ACCESS THAT IS ON BARCELONA, THERE IS ALREADY EXISTING
10:09:45PM ACT STRESS THE PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.
10:09:48PM AND MULTIFAMILY IS USING YSABELLA FOR FURTHER ACCESS
10:09:53PM AFTERNOON AND NEW WAIVERS ARE REQUIRED.
10:09:55PM I -- NO NEW WAIVERS ARE REQUIRED.
10:10:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO IS NEXT.
10:10:05PM TAKE IT TO THE APPLICANT.
10:10:06PM STATE YOUR NAME.
10:10:07PM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
10:10:09PM JAKE KRAMER, STEARNS, WEAVER, MILLER EAST JACKSON STREET.
10:10:13PM I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION.
10:10:14PM IF WE CAN PULL THAT UP WILL CHAIR, HOUSEKEEPING MATTERS
10:10:19PM BEFORE MY TIME STARTS.
10:10:20PM I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO INTRODUCE INTO THE RECORD IF I
10:10:24PM MAY APPROACH.
10:10:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
10:10:26PM >> THESE ARE -- THESE ARE SUPPORT LETTERS THAT WE RECEIVED
10:10:29PM AT OUR OFFICE DIRECTLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
10:10:31PM I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE IN THE RECORD YET, AS WELL AS
10:10:34PM PROPOSED CONDITIONS.
10:10:36PM TWO ADDITIONAL PROPOSED CONDITIONS THAT I WILL ADDRESS
10:10:39PM DURING MY PRESENTATION THAT WE ARE PROPOSING BASED ON
10:10:43PM COMMUNITY -- COMMUNITY DISCUSSIONS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF
10:10:46PM DAYS.
10:10:46PM OKAY.
10:11:13PM MR. CHAIR, COUNCIL.
10:11:15PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
10:11:17PM I REPRESENT THE RELATED GROUP, THE APPLICANT FOR THIS
10:11:23PM REZONING, AS WELL AS THE NEXT HEARING WHICH IS A RELATED
10:11:25PM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
10:11:26PM WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER.
10:11:28PM I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH BRINGING UP MR. NICK PEREZ OF THE
10:11:34PM RELATED GROUP.
10:11:35PM THANK YOU.
10:11:36PM >> THANKS.
10:11:38PM GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE
10:11:43PM TIME THIS EVENING.
10:11:44PM MY NAME IS NICK PEREZ, I AM PRESIDENT OF THE CONDOMINIUM
10:11:49PM DIVISION OF RELATED GROUP.
10:11:51PM SINCE MY FATHER STARTED THIS COMPANY IN 1979 IN MIAMI, WE
10:11:59PM FORTUNATELY HAVE BEEN EXPANDING OUR REACH BUILDING
10:12:01PM RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES ALL THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND
10:12:04PM EXPANDING ALL THROUGHOUT LATIN AMERICA.
10:12:06PM TO INTO DAY, THROUGH ALL OF OUR TRAVELS, OUR FAMILY
10:12:11PM CONSIDERS TAMPA TO BE OUR SECOND HOME.
10:12:13PM YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH OUR SIGNATURE TAMPA DEVELOPMENTS
10:12:16PM THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED OR ACTIVELY IN CONSTRUCTION.
10:12:18PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS IN THE WEST RIVER DISTRICT.
10:12:22PM RELATE IS DEVELOPING IT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TAMPA
10:12:27PM HOUSING AUTHORITY.
10:12:28PM LITTLE MARKER LOOKS, RIVERWALK ON THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND
10:12:32PM UPSCALE LIKE THE RITZ-CARLTON RESIDENCES ON BAYSHORE DOWN
10:12:37PM THE STREET FROM THE SITE WE ARE DISCUSSING.
10:12:40PM WE ARE TREMENDOUSLY PROUD OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS, OUR PRIDE
10:12:43PM EXTENDS BEYOND ANY PHYSICAL STRUCTURES.
10:12:46PM EQUALLY PROUD OF OUR DEDICATION OF DEVELOPING COMMUNITIES
10:12:50PM AND ENRICHING LIVES.
10:12:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, SIR, BEFORE YOU CONTINUE ON.
10:12:55PM JUST STOP HIS TIME.
10:12:57PM IF ANYBODY WHO IS GOING TO SPEAK WILL PLEASE STAND UP, RISE
10:13:01PM YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
10:13:03PM I KNOW --
10:13:04PM >> I DON'T HAVE TO START OVER -- [SWEARING IN]
10:13:19PM >> I DO.
10:13:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
10:13:22PM MR. SHELBY, DOES HE NEED TO BEGIN AGAIN?
10:13:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL -- YOU STOPPED THE CLOCK -- HE LOST A
10:13:29PM FEW SECONDS THERE.
10:13:30PM SIR, YOU AFFIRM THAT EVERYTHING YOU SAID UP TO THIS POINT IS
10:13:34PM THE TRUTH, THAT'S CORRECT?
10:13:36PM >> YES, SIR.
10:13:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO NEED TO REPEAT YOURSELF.
10:13:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
10:13:39PM I APOLOGIZE FOR THE INTERRUPTION.
10:13:41PM >> NO WORRIES.
10:13:42PM THANK YOU FOR THE CATCH TOO.
10:13:43PM SEE, MY FATHER STARTED HIS LIFE NOT TO SEND OUT TO BE A
10:13:49PM DEVELOPER OR EVEN A BUSINESSMAN.
10:13:51PM HE STARTED HIS CAREER AS AN URBAN PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF
10:13:55PM MIAMI WITH THE PASSION OF IMPROVING CITIES AND THE LIVES OF
10:14:00PM ITS RESIDENTS.
10:14:00PM MY FAMILY INVESTED IN CITY OVER THE LONG HALL OF
10:14:05PM ORGANIZATIONS SURROUNDING ARTS, CULTURE, HEALTH AND BILLION
10:14:09PM BEING.
10:14:09PM THE EDUCATION AND ENVIRONMENT AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:14:13PM CONNECTING OUR PROJECTS TO PUBLIC SPACES, CELEBRATING
10:14:18PM HISTORY IS SOMETHING FOR WHICH RELATED HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY
10:14:22PM RECOGNIZED.
10:14:22PM SPECIFICALLY, HERE IN THE TAMPA COMMUNITY WITH SOME OF OUR
10:14:27PM DEVELOPMENTS.
10:14:27PM WHETHER IT IS COMMISSIONING A LOCAL ARTIST TO CREATE A
10:14:30PM MOSAIC MURAL AT MARY BETHUNE APARTMENTS OR BRINGING THE
10:14:35PM RIVERWALK TO THE WEST SIDE OF THE RIVER AND RIVERWALK
10:14:38PM APARTMENTS.
10:14:38PM REPURPOSING IN THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY OF ST. PETE, THE
10:14:42PM HISTORIC BANK BUILDING TO A THRIVING MIXED USE COMMUNITY.
10:14:46PM OUR FAMILY BELIEVES STRONGLY IN PROMOTING AND ENHANCING
10:14:50PM THESE COMMUNITIES, THEIR HISTORY, AND THEIR IT CULTURE.
10:14:53PM THAT IS WHY WE WERE SO INTERESTED AND QUITE FRANKLY HONORED
10:14:58PM WHEN SHALOM SYNAGOGUE APPROACHED US TO BUILD A RESIDENTIAL
10:15:02PM COMMUNITY ON A PORTION OF THEIR PROPERTY.
10:15:04PM BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSED CO-LOCATION CONCEPT
10:15:10PM CAN SERVE AS A BLUEPRINT TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT SIMILAR
10:15:15PM ICONIC LAND MARKS THAT MAY OTHERWISE BE PRICED OUT OF THEIR
10:15:19PM LONG-TIME LOCATIONS.
10:15:20PM BY SHARING THE CURRENT SITE AND BUILDING WITH OUR PROPOSED
10:15:25PM RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, THE RODEF SHALOM SYNAGOGUE MAY
10:15:29PM MAINTAIN ITS CURRENT BAYSHORE BOULEVARD LOCATIONS FOR
10:15:34PM GENERATIONS TO COME.
10:15:35PM JUST LIKE MY FATHER FIRST SET OUT IN 1972, WE CONTINUE TO
10:15:40PM APPRECIATE OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD AND ENRICH COMMUNITIES AND
10:15:43PM WE BELIEVE OUR PROJECT BEFORE YOU FOR CONSIDERATION THIS
10:15:45PM EVENING IS SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY.
10:15:47PM I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU APPROVE OUR REZONING REQUEST
10:15:52PM THIS EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR TAMPA.
10:15:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:56PM >> THANK YOU, NICK.
10:15:57PM JAKE KRAMER, AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD.
10:16:00PM COUNCIL, AS I WAS THINKING OF HOW TO PREPARE TONIGHT.
10:16:02PM I THOUGHT BECAUSE OF THE PROPERTY WE ARE CONSIDERING, THAT A
10:16:06PM QUOTE FROM KING SOLOMON, HE HAD IT RIGHT.
10:16:08PM HE SAID THE WAY OF A FOOL IS RIGHT IN HIS OWN EYES, BUT A
10:16:12PM WISE ONE LISTENS TO ADVICE.
10:16:14PM THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE TONIGHT.
10:16:16PM WE LISTENED BUT I AM NEW TO THE TEAM.
10:16:19PM RELATED BROUGHT ME ON TO BRING A FRESH PERSPECTIVE.
10:16:22PM WE HAVE THE REST OF THE TEAM AS WELL.
10:16:24PM THEY BROUGHT ME ON TO FIGURE OUT WHAT CAN WE DO?
10:16:27PM WHAT CAN WE DO THAT IS NEW TO THE TABLE?
10:16:30PM >> I REALIZE AT FIRST GLANCE, SOME THINGS WILL BE SIMILAR,
10:16:34PM BUT WE DID A LOT OF WORK AND IT IS A NEW PROJECT.
10:16:38PM COLLOCATION AND INFILL EXACTLY WHERE THE CITY NEEDS THIS,
10:16:41PM NEAR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS, NEAR PARKS, NEAR THE BAYSHORE
10:16:46PM GREENWAY.
10:16:46PM 26-STORY BUILDING WITH 42 RESIDENCES.
10:16:49PM BOTH USES ARE FULLY PARKED.
10:16:51PM WE ARE MAKING OFF-SITE MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WERE
10:16:55PM NOT LAST TIME AND IMPROVEMENTS IN FRED BALL PARK AND FUTURE
10:17:01PM HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON THE EXISTING SYNAGOGUE SITE TO KEEP
10:17:04PM IT REMAINING AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE TOWER AND BAYSHORE.
10:17:10PM THE RODEPH CONGREGATION HAS BEEN HERE FOR 55 YEARS SINCE
10:17:18PM 1959.
10:17:18PM I HAVE FOUND NEWSPAPER ARTICLES FOR ITS UNUSUALLY LARGE
10:17:23PM WHITE MENORAH SCULPTURE, ONE OF A SMALL HANDFUL OF CULTURAL
10:17:30PM RESOURCES THAT REMAIN ON BAYSHORE TODAY THAT HAVE A DIVERSE
10:17:35PM ECLECTIC FEEL.
10:17:36PM SO AS A COMMUNITY, I THINK WE HAVE A ONCE IN A GENERATION
10:17:40PM OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE CONGREGATION TO PRESERVE THIS
10:17:43PM RESOURCE.
10:17:43PM THIS PROJECT REPRESENTS THAT OPPORTUNITY AND IN MANY WAY
10:17:46PM THIS PROJECT IS BETTER THAN THE CODE REQUIRES BECAUSE OF ITS
10:17:49PM LIMITED 42-UNIT SCALE.
10:17:51PM FOR EXAMPLE, BAYSHORE REQUIRES 63-FOOT CENTER LINE SETBACK.
10:17:58PM THE LINE IS TWICE THAT AND THE TOWER WE ARE PROPOSING IS
10:18:02PM OVER FOUR TIMES THAT.
10:18:02PM NOW LAST YEAR, THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT THIS COUNCIL CANNOT
10:18:07PM SPECULATE WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN TO THE SYNAGOGUE.
10:18:10PM I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THAT, BUT WHAT YOU CAN CONSIDER HOW
10:18:15PM THIS PROPOSAL IS BETTER THAN WHAT THE CODE WOULD OTHERWISE
10:18:18PM ALLOW THIS SITE.
10:18:19PM WILL ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TO COME TO YOU WITH A REQUEST
10:18:22PM TO BUILD 70 UNITS WITH MUCH LESSER SETBACKS.
10:18:25PM WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE DAVID SMITH, OUR EXPERT LAND
10:18:30PM PLANNER TALK ABOUT CONSISTENCY.
10:18:32PM THANK YOU.
10:18:32PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILMEN, DAVID SMITH, DIRECTOR OF
10:18:36PM DEVELOPMENT AROUND ZONING FOR STEARNS, WEAVER AND MILLER.
10:18:40PM I HAVE BEEN PRACTICING IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY IN TAMPA FOR
10:18:47PM 46 YEARS.
10:18:47PM 15 OF THOSE WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY WORKING WITH THEM IN
10:18:50PM THEIR PLANNING DEPARTMENTS AND ALSO IN THEIR COMMUNITY
10:18:53PM DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
10:18:53PM WHAT JAKE HAS DESCRIBED TO YOU IS WHAT -- WHAT THE CONCEPT
10:18:58PM IS NOW AND HOW THE SYNAGOGUE HAS BEEN PUT IN PLACE.
10:19:02PM WHAT I HAVE UP ON THE GRAPHIC IS A LITTLE HISTORY.
10:19:08PM THE HISTORY BASICALLY SAYS BACK IN THE 60s, THERE WAS A
10:19:12PM BAYSHORE STUDY DONE.
10:19:13PM THE BAYSHORE STUDY SAID, GEE, WE ARE ACTUALLY DEVELOPING IN
10:19:17PM VERY LOW DENSITY.
10:19:18PM NOT MUCH REVENUE.
10:19:20PM AND WE REALLY NEED NO CONSIDER HAVING MORE DENSE
10:19:24PM DEVELOPMENT.
10:19:25PM SO WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT IN 60 IN THAT STUDY WAS IN 1989,
10:19:32PM THE ZONING WAS R-3HR WHICH IS MULTIFAMILY HIGH RISE.
10:19:38PM AND THE QUOTED SECTION WAS FROM THE REGULATIONS OF THE TIME
10:19:43PM WE ARE BASICALLY SURPRISINGLY SAID UNLIMITED HEIGHT.
10:19:48PM THIS IS AN EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS AS THE CODES CHANGE OVER
10:19:54PM TIME.
10:19:54PM THINGS CHANGE OVER TIME.
10:19:56PM WHAT HAPPENED WE HAVE TODAY IS A TIME OF CHANGE FOR THIS
10:19:59PM PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
10:20:00PM I WILL NOT GO INTO THE DETAILS THAT STAFF AND THE PLANNING
10:20:04PM COMMISSION AND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION HAVE GONE INTO, BUT
10:20:07PM WE HAVE PROVIDED A SUPPLEMENTAL PLANNING STUDY BY OUR FIRM
10:20:13PM THAT SUPPORT AND COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT IT PROJECT IS
10:20:17PM COMPATIBLE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
10:20:18PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CATEGORY OF R-35 WAS INTENDED TO,
10:20:23PM EVER SINCE THE ORIGINAL BAYSHORE PLAN, TO PROVIDE NEEDED
10:20:27PM HOUSING IN THE BAYSHORE CORRIDOR WHICH IS THE JEWEL OF TAMPA
10:20:31PM ALONG THE BAY.
10:20:33PM AND WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOT LOOK AT WHAT
10:20:37PM IS AROUND THE PROPERTY THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR 50 YEARS.
10:20:42PM THE EVENT CENTER FOR TAMPA GARDEN CENTER.
10:20:45PM THE OTHERS -- THE WOMEN CENTER THAT IS THERE.
10:20:48PM THE FACT THAT THERE IS LOW DENSITY TOWN HOMES.
10:20:51PM THESE ARE ACTUALLY JUST REALITIES OF OVERTIME WHAT PEEP OF
10:20:55PM SUPREME BEEN ABLE TO FIT ON THEIR PROPERTY.
10:20:57PM SIX TOWN HOMES HERE.
10:20:59PM SEVEN TOWN HOMES HERE BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH OF THE
10:21:02PM PROPERTIES.
10:21:02PM AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THE SECTIONS TOWN HOMES IS
10:21:05PM CREATED ON A PROPERTY THAT AUTOPSIED TO BE PART OF THE PD
10:21:08PM FOR -- FOR THE TEMPLE.
10:21:10PM SO AS WE -- AS WE LOOK AT WHAT THE CONTEXT IS, THIS PROPERTY
10:21:16PM IS 35 UNITS PER ACRE WITH BONUS DENSITY.
10:21:20PM WE ARE LOOKING AT 30 UNITS PER ACRE.
10:21:22PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE ARTURO
10:21:29PM REFERENCED BY STAFF, BAYSHORE PRESBYTERIAN.
10:21:32PM TWO MULTISTORY, MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS.
10:21:36PM YOU HAVE THE PARK FURTHER TO THE NORTH.
10:21:41PM SANCTUARY CLOSER TO THE PARK THAN WE ARE.
10:21:44PM AND THEN YOU HAVE THE EVENT CENTER FOR TAMPA GARDEN CLUB.
10:21:48PM AND YOU HAVE THE SYNAGOGUE.
10:21:50PM WHAT I WAS SHOCKED TO FIND OUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE USES IN
10:21:54PM THE AREA, THAT PRIVATE NONPROFITS BASICALLY OCCUPY AND DO
10:22:00PM NOT PAY ANY TAXES TO THE CITY EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE CULTURAL
10:22:04PM RESOURCES FOR PRESBYTERIAN TOWERS BECAUSE IT IS HOME FOR THE
10:22:09PM AGED.
10:22:09PM THE GARDEN CLUB BECAUSE PRIVATE-NONPROFIT.
10:22:14PM THE WOMEN CENTER BECAUSE IT IS A CLUB.
10:22:16PM AND THE SYNAGOGUE, BECAUSE IT IS NOT -- IT IS A RELIGIOUS
10:22:21PM INSTITUTION.
10:22:21PM LOOKING AT THIS AREA AND INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, THIS PROJECT
10:22:25PM PROVIDES A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY FOR A HIGH-END PROJECT, A
10:22:29PM QUALITY PROJECT.
10:22:30PM IT IS LOCATED IN THE CONTEXT THAT IS SENSITIVE TO ITS
10:22:34PM SURROUNDINGS AND THAT WERE SIGNIFICANTLY SEPTEMBER BACK FROM
10:22:38PM THE EVENT CENTER AND THE OPEN SPACES OF -- OF THE GARDEN
10:22:43PM CLUB.
10:22:43PM AND WE ARE -- WE ARE NO CLOSER THAN ARTURO WAS TO THE TOWN
10:22:49PM HOME PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO US AND ARE ADJACENT TO
10:22:52PM THEM.
10:22:53PM SO SIGNIFICANT TO LOOK AT THIS IS WHAT THE CONTEXT REALLY
10:23:01PM IS.
10:23:01PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT BAYSHORE, IT IS AN AMALGAMATION OF
10:23:08PM EVOLUTION OF DEVELOPMENT.
10:23:10PM WE HAVE OLD TOWERS.
10:23:11PM WE HAVE NEW TOWERS.
10:23:12PM WE HAVE MID-RISE.
10:23:14PM WE HAVE LOW-RISE.
10:23:15PM WE HAVE TOWN HOMES.
10:23:16PM ALL ARE FABRIC OF AN URBAN COMMUNITY.
10:23:19PM AND PLANNING COMMISSION COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER.
10:23:22PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE UNDERDEVELOPMENT OF THE PARCELS, WE
10:23:25PM NEED TO MEET THE HOUSING NEEDS OF THE PUBLIC AND THE PEOPLE
10:23:28PM WHO ARE MOVING HERE.
10:23:30PM IF WE KEEP ON DEVELOPING AT LOW DENSITY AND NOT TAKE
10:23:33PM OPPORTUNITIES TO GET HIGHER DENSITY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE
10:23:36PM ABLE TO SUPPORT THE GROWTH COMING TO THE COMMUNITY.
10:23:40PM SO LOOKING AROUND THIS PROJECT, LOOKING UP AND DOWN
10:23:44PM BAYSHORE.
10:23:45PM PEOPLE ARE WORRIED ABOUT MORE HIGH-RISES.
10:23:48PM WE THINK IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND YOU LOOK
10:23:51PM AT THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT, THEY ARE VERY FEW OPPORTUNITIES
10:23:55PM LEFT WITHIN THE CURRENT LAND USE CATEGORIES FOR THESE -- I
10:23:59PM WOULD CALL THEM SIGNATURE PROJECTS TO OCCUR.
10:24:01PM THANK YOU.
10:24:04PM >> THANK YOU, DAVID.
10:24:07PM ONE OF THE LAST -- ONE OF THE CONCERNS FROM LAST YEAR WAS
10:24:12PM WHETHER WE HAVE DONE ENOUGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
10:24:15PM WE HIRED A COMMUNITY RELATIONS PROFESSIONAL WHO LIVES AND
10:24:19PM WORKS IN THIS AREA VERY CLOSE TO THIS SITE.
10:24:21PM SHE WORKED WITH US TO HAVE TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
10:24:25PM THE FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING WAS ACTUALLY WHAT RESULTED IN US
10:24:28PM PROPOSING THE FRED BALL PARK DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
10:24:32PM WE HELD A SECOND COMMUNITY MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THAT
10:24:38PM SPECIFIC AGREEMENT.
10:24:39PM A LOT OF WORDS ON THIS SLIDE, BUT THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE
10:24:42PM CHANGES WE HAVE MADE.
10:24:42PM ULTIMATELY, ALL OF THESE CHANGES ARE WHAT RESULTED, I THINK,
10:24:47PM IN GETTING STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL THIS TIME ON THE
10:24:52PM PROJECT.
10:24:52PM TO ME, THE BIGGEST ONES, I THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE YOU LAST
10:24:58PM TIME, LAST YEAR, I THINK ALL OF YOU MENTIONED WAIVERS WERE A
10:25:02PM BIG CONCERN.
10:25:03PM THEY ARE GONE.
10:25:03PM ALL THE NEW WAIVERS ARE GONE.
10:25:05PM AND ONE OF THE OLD WAIVERS ABOUT PARKING IS GONE.
10:25:08PM SO BOTH OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE FULLY PARKED.
10:25:12PM THE ONLY REMAINING WAIVER IS FOR ACCESS TO THE SYNAGOGUE.
10:25:15PM THAT WAIVER RUNS WITH THE LAND AND I BELIEVE IT IS ALSO
10:25:18PM PROTECTED UNDER FEDERAL LAW THAT PROTECTS RELIGIOUS JULES
10:25:22PM INSTITUTION.
10:25:22PM THAT IS ALSO UNHEARD OF FOR NEW TOWERS IN -- IN BAYSHORE.
10:25:27PM ARTURO HAD TWO WAIVERS.
10:25:30PM SANCTUARY HAD TWO.
10:25:33PM STOVAL HAD SEVEN.
10:25:35PM WE MADE CHANGES.
10:25:36PM I WILL NOT GO THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THESE AND WE CAN GO BACK
10:25:40PM TO ANY ONE OF THEM IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
10:25:42PM WE ARE SAVING OFF THE GRAND TREES.
10:25:45PM WE ADDED A GREEN WALL.
10:25:46PM AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR PROPOSED BUILDING IS ADJACENT TO OUR
10:25:51PM NEIGHBORING EVENT CENTER DIRT SURFACE PARKING LOT.
10:25:55PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE LONG TERM AND WANTED
10:25:58PM TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND PROVIDING A GREEN WALL.
10:26:01PM AS YOU CAN SEE BETWEEN THE EVENT CENTER AND OUR BUILDING IS
10:26:05PM THE SYNAGOGUE.
10:26:06PM THE SYNAGOGUE IS ALSO THE BUFFER.
10:26:08PM WE ARE PROPOSING OFF-SITE MOBILITY AND TO RESURFACE TO
10:26:14PM STREETS.
10:26:14PM AND A MID-BLOCK CROSSING, AS WELL AS A SIDEWALK ACROSS THE
10:26:18PM STREET THAT WE WOULD NOT OTHERWISE BE REQUIRED TO DO BECAUSE
10:26:22PM WE HEARD FROM THE BAYSHORE PRESBYTERIAN.
10:26:26PM THE APARTMENTS THAT THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT MOBILITY.
10:26:28PM THAT ULTIMATELY RESULTED -- I REALIZE WE HAVE ANOTHER
10:26:32PM HEARING, BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT WHY WE
10:26:36PM PROPOSED THE FRED BALL PARK IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK
10:26:39PM AT THE TOP LEFT ON RUBIDEAUX, THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS BECAUSE
10:26:45PM IT IS BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFUL TREE CANOPY.
10:26:48PM WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING -- WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT
10:26:51PM HEARING IS IN THE FIRST TIME CONNECTING SAFELY PEDESTRIANS
10:26:54PM TO GET FROM BAYSHORE ALL THE WAY TO YSABELLA.
10:26:58PM YOU CAN'T DO THAT TODAY.
10:27:00PM WE ARE GOING TO REPLACE THE EXISTING PATH AND ADD TO THAT.
10:27:03PM WITH THAT, OUR WHOLE TIME IS HEAR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:27:06PM OTHERWISE, WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC ON
10:27:09PM REBUTTAL.
10:27:10PM THANK YOU.
10:27:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:27:13PM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
10:27:17PM YES, SIR?
10:27:20PM DO WE NOW HEAR FROM -- IS IT PRESSMAN ON THE OTHER SIDE?
10:27:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, ACTUALLY -- SIR --
10:27:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:27:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OFF SPEAKER WAIVER FORM OR SPEAKING FOR
10:27:35PM THREE MINUTES.
10:27:35PM >> THREE MINUTES.
10:27:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM.
10:27:40PM IT MIGHT BE IN THE SITE PLAN, BUT I DON'T SEE IT RIGHT NOW
10:27:43PM IN MY STAFF REPORT.
10:27:44PM WHAT IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE RESIDENTIAL SPACE?
10:27:52PM LIKE, WHAT SQUARE FOOT PER UNIT OR SQUARE FOOT FOR ALL THE
10:27:57PM ACTUAL UNITS?
10:28:05PM >> ARE YOU ASKING FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF INDIVIDUAL UNITS
10:28:08PM OR THE ENTIRE TOWER?
10:28:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ENTIRE TOWER OR LIKE AN AVERAGE PER UNIT.
10:28:14PM I MEAN THEY ALL LOOK LIKE THEY MIGHT BE THE SAME.
10:28:19PM IF THEY ARE, THEN JUST PER UNIT.
10:28:21PM >> SO THE OVERALL AMENITY SPACE AND TOWER IS 275,000 SQUARE
10:28:26PM FEET.
10:28:26PM THE UNITS ARE 4500 TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET, ASSUMING THAT THEY
10:28:31PM ARE BUILT OUT AT TWO PER FLOOR.
10:28:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:28:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:28:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SEE ON THE SITE PLAN THE SETBACK FOR THE
10:28:43PM TOWER ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHICH IS A GENEROUS 38 FEET.
10:28:47PM I DON'T SEE THAT SETBACK -- IS IT 61?
10:28:54PM IS THAT WHAT I'M SEEING FROM THE PROPERTY LINE?
10:28:58PM WHAT IS THE CLOSEST THAT TOWER GETS TO THE NORTHERN PROPERTY
10:29:02PM LINE?
10:29:04PM >> DAVID SMITH.
10:29:07PM IT IS ON THE SITE PLAN.
10:29:09PM IT'S 61.3 FEET.
10:29:10PM SO YOU HAVE 20 FEET TO THE FACE OF THE PARKING GARAGE AND
10:29:14PM THEN THE TOWER IS SET BACK.
10:29:17PM YES, SIR.
10:29:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
10:29:20PM YES, SIR.
10:29:21PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:29:22PM >> LLOYD STERN, 18039 U.S. HIGHWAY 41 IN LUTZ.
10:29:27PM HONORABLE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY
10:29:33PM AS THE PRESIDENT OF CONGREGATION RODEPH SHOLOM.
10:29:37PM MY FAITH AND MY COMMUNITY MEAN EVERYTHING TO ME AND TO THE
10:29:40PM HUNDREDS OF OTHER CONGREGANTS AT THE SYNAGOGUE.
10:29:43PM I EXTEND MY HEARTFELT THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.
10:29:47PM OUR CONGREGATION, CONGREGATION RODEPH SHOLOM, HOLDS A UNIQUE
10:29:51PM AND CHERISHED PLACE IN THE TAMPA COMMUNITY.
10:29:54PM FOR OVER A CENTURY, WE HAVE BEEN A STEADFAST FIXTURE IN THE
10:29:59PM HEART OF THIS VIBRANT CITY.
10:30:01PM THIS PAST WEEKEND, WE CELEBRATED A SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE,
10:30:05PM 120 YEARS OF SERVICE TO BOTH THE JEWISH COMMUNITY AND THE
10:30:09PM BROADER TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY.
10:30:10PM DURING THIS REMARKABLE JOURNEY, OUR CONGREGATION HAS BEEN
10:30:14PM MORE THAN JUST A PLACE OF WORSHIP.
10:30:17PM IT HAS BEEN A SANCTUARY, A SAFE HAVEN FOR JEWS TO GATHER AND
10:30:21PM CONNECT.
10:30:22PM MOREOVER, IT HAS BEEN A BEACON OF GENEROSITY AND GOODWILL.
10:30:26PM WE HAVE OPENED OUR DOORS TO FIRST RESPONDERS AND OUR
10:30:30PM MILITARY, PROVIDING THEM WITH SPACE TO MEET AND UTILIZE AS
10:30:33PM NEEDED.
10:30:34PM WE HAVE TIRELESSLY SUPPORTED LOCAL FOOD BANKS AND CHARITABLE
10:30:39PM ORGANIZATIONS, GIVING OUR TIME, ENERGY, AND RESOURCES TO
10:30:43PM UPLIFT THOSE IN NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
10:30:45PM AS TRULY -- HAS TRULY HURT ME THAT PEOPLE WE CONSIDER TO BE
10:30:52PM OUR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS HAVE ENGAGED IN ANTI-SEMITIC
10:30:56PM BEHAVIOR IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
10:30:58PM OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR NEIGHBORS HAS BEEN NOTHING SHORT
10:31:00PM OF HARMONIOUS, A RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE CHERISHED UNTIL
10:31:05PM RECENTLY.
10:31:05PM THE PROPOSED TOWER WHICH HAS STIRRED CONCERNS AMONG OUR
10:31:09PM NEIGHBORS IS INTENDED TO BE SITUATED NEXT TO THEIR PAVED
10:31:12PM PARKING LOT, NOT NEXT TO THEIR BEAUTIFUL GARDENS.
10:31:16PM I WANT TO REASSURE YOU THAT CONGREGATION RODEPH SHOLOM HAS
10:31:20PM DILIGENTLY WORKED ALONGSIDE OUR NEIGHBORS AND RELATED GROUP
10:31:24PM TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS, STRIVING TO ELIMINATE ALL
10:31:27PM VARIANCES.
10:31:28PM BEYOND THESE PRACTICAL CONSIDERATIONS, THERE'S A SYMBOL OF
10:31:33PM IMMENSE SUPPORT WE WISH TO HIGHLIGHT.
10:31:35PM WHEN PEOPLE PASS BY BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND SEE THE MENORAH,
10:31:39PM IT SENDS A POWERFUL MESSAGE TO EVERYONE.
10:31:41PM IT SYMBOLIZES THAT TAMPA IS A CITY THAT WELCOMES ALL,
10:31:45PM REGARDLESS OF THEIR BELIEFS AND BACKGROUND.
10:31:48PM WE PROUDLY EMBRACE DIVERSITY, JEWISH, BLACK, WHITE, LGBTQ
10:31:54PM AND ANYONE WHO CHOOSES TO VISIT OR MAKE TAMPA BAY THEIR
10:31:58PM HOME.
10:31:59PM TAMPA HAS TRANSFORMED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE MY DAYS AS A HIGH
10:32:04PM SCHOOLER AT CHAMBERLAIN HIGH SCHOOL.
10:32:06PM CHANGE CAN BE DAUNTING, BUT IT'S ESSENTIAL FOR GROWTH.
10:32:10PM I COMMEND OUR CITY'S LEADERSHIP FOR MAKING THE TOUGH
10:32:13PM DECISIONS NEEDED TO PAVE THE WAY FOR PROGRESS AS WE CONTINUE
10:32:16PM TO EVOLVE, LEST REMEMBER OUR COLLECTIVE FUTURE HINGES ON
10:32:20PM EMBRACING CHANGE.
10:32:22PM I EARNESTLY IMPLORE YOU TO CAST YOUR VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS
10:32:27PM VITAL PROJECT.
10:32:28PM IT PROMISES TO BRING HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, MILLIONS OF
10:32:30PM DOLLARS IN REVENUE AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, SECURES THE FUTURE
10:32:33PM OF THE INSTITUTION THAT HAS BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF TAMPA'S
10:32:37PM IDENTITY FOR 120 YEARS.
10:32:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:32:39PM YES, SIR.
10:32:40PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:32:42PM >> I AM SAME CARELLO, 101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, SUITE
10:32:47PM 2800.
10:32:49PM BOARD CERTIFIED REAL ESTATE LAWYER AND I REPRESENT THE
10:32:53PM CONGREGATION RODEPH SHOLOM IN CONNECTION WITH THE SUBJECT
10:32:56PM PROPERTY, IN CONNECTION WITH THE REAL ESTATE NEGOTIATIONS
10:32:59PM THEY'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS CONCERNING THE PROSPECTIVE SALE
10:33:04PM OF THEIR PROPERTY.
10:33:05PM THE CONGREGATION'S INTEREST IS NOT JUST OUT OF A PROPERTY
10:33:09PM OWNER SELLING ITS PROPERTY TO A DEVELOPER.
10:33:11PM THE CONGREGATION IN THIS INSTANCE ALSO WILL BE THE CLOSEST
10:33:14PM NEIGHBORING OWNER TO THE PROPOSED NEW RESIDENTIAL PROJECT.
10:33:19PM SO THE CONGREGATION HAS CERTAINLY A DESIRE TO ENSURE A
10:33:23PM SENSIBLE DEVELOPMENT.
10:33:26PM SINCE ITS ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION, THE CONGREGATION HAS BEEN A
10:33:29PM RESPECTED PART OF THIS TAMPA COMMUNITY AND IN GENERATIONS OF
10:33:34PM FAMILY HAVE EXPERIENCED SIGNIFICANT LIFE EVENTS ON THIS
10:33:37PM PROPERTY.
10:33:37PM THE CONGREGATION HAS MADE CAREFUL AND DELIBERATE PLANNING
10:33:43PM AND BUDGETING DECISIONS OVER THE YEARS AND THE LONG
10:33:46PM ESTABLISHED LAND USE CATEGORIES AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND
10:33:50PM THE ASSOCIATED LAND VALUES THAT GO WITH THAT HAVE FACTORED
10:33:54PM SIGNIFICANTLY INTO THE CONGREGATION'S DECISIONS.
10:33:57PM DURING MY REPRESENTATION OF THE CONGREGATION, IT HAS
10:34:05PM RECEIVED AND RESISTED SEVERAL SUBSTANTIALLY LARGER OFFERS
10:34:08PM FROM DEVELOPERS WHOSE ONLY INTEREST WAS REDEVELOPING THE
10:34:11PM ENTIRE SITE INTO A MUCH LARGER PROJECT BY RIGHT FOR A MUCH
10:34:16PM LARGER DEVELOPMENT.
10:34:17PM THEY RESISTED THOSE OFFERS BECAUSE THE CONGREGATION PREFERS
10:34:20PM TO RETAIN THE CURRENT SYNAGOGUE LOCATION THEY HOLD DEARLY.
10:34:26PM THE CONGREGATION HAS CAREFULLY AND DELIBERATELY NEGOTIATED A
10:34:30PM DEAL THAT PRESERVES THEIR EXISTING FACILITY WHILE ALLOWING A
10:34:33PM DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP A SMALLER RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT
10:34:37PM IS CONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING LAND USE STANDARDS FOR THE
10:34:40PM SITE.
10:34:41PM THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY THE CITY STAFF REPORT IN ITS
10:34:45PM RECOMMENDATION.
10:34:45PM AS PART OF THEIR CAREFULLY NEGOTIATED DEAL, THE CONGREGATION
10:34:49PM ALSO STANDS TO ACHIEVE NEEDED FUNDS AND SIGNIFICANT
10:34:53PM ENHANCEMENTS THAT WILL IMPROVE THE SYNAGOGUE'S OPERATIONS
10:34:58PM FOR YEARS TO COME.
10:34:59PM IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS INCREASED PARKING, COVERED AND LIGHTED
10:35:02PM PARKING, COVERED WALKWAYS AND BOUNDARY SECURITY ASSOCIATED
10:35:06PM WITH THE COMBINED SITE.
10:35:08PM I DON'T DOUBT THAT THOSE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS APPLICATION
10:35:13PM HAVE HEARTFELT CONCERNS ABOUT OVERCROWDING IN THE BEAUTIFUL
10:35:20PM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:35:21PM BUT RESPECTFULLY, THAT IS NOT A BASIS FOR DENYING THIS
10:35:24PM COMPLIANT APPLICATION AS THAT WOULD UNREASONABLY DENY THE
10:35:28PM CONGREGATION THE VALUE AND BENEFITS OF ITS PROTECTED
10:35:31PM PROPERTY RIGHTS.
10:35:32PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
10:35:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:35:34PM YES, SIR.
10:35:34PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:35:37PM >> FINAL SPEAKER.
10:35:37PM GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
10:35:38PM MY NAME IS JIM SHIMBERG.
10:35:39PM I'M A PARTNER WITH THE SHUBIN LAW GROUP AT 615 CHANNELSIDE
10:35:43PM DRIVE.
10:35:46PM MY PARTNER, JOHN SHUBIN, AND I HAVE RECENTLY BEEN ADDED TO
10:35:47PM THE LEGAL TEAM ON BEHALF OF THE CONGREGATION.
10:35:50PM THANK YOU FOR HEARING US OUT TONIGHT.
10:35:52PM FEW QUICK POINTS.
10:35:53PM AS YOU'VE HEARD AND PROBABLY KNOW, THESE ARE TOUGH FINANCIAL
10:35:56PM TIMES FOR MANY RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS AND THE CONGREGATION
10:35:59PM IS TRYING TO RETAIN A PRESENCE AT THIS VERY VISIBLE LOCATION
10:36:03PM AND OBVIOUSLY WOULD BENEFIT GREATLY FROM THE FINANCIAL
10:36:06PM ASSISTANCE OF THIS TRANSACTION.
10:36:08PM THEY HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT MUST BE RESPECTED HERE.
10:36:10PM OVER THE YEARS, THEY HAVE BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR EVER SINCE
10:36:13PM THIS WAS BUILT IN THE LATE 1960s.
10:36:16PM THE CITY HAS MADE CLEAR IN ALL OF ITS PLANNING AND
10:36:19PM REGULATORY DOCUMENTS THAT THIS AREA OF BAYSHORE IS
10:36:22PM APPROPRIATE FOR HIGH-RISE RESIDENTIAL.
10:36:24PM EVERYONE KNEW THIS.
10:36:24PM THE BAYSHORE PRESBYTERIAN HIGH-RISE APARTMENTS ALSO BUILT IN
10:36:29PM 1969 ALONG WITH THE GARDEN CLUB BUILDING.
10:36:31PM OVER THE DECADES, CITY COUNCIL HAS APPROVED ONE PROJECT
10:36:34PM AFTER ANOTHER UP AND DOWN BAYSHORE AND I BELIEVE ABOUT FIVE
10:36:37PM PROJECTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED SINCE 2020 IN THE GENERAL AREA
10:36:40PM SURROUNDING THE CONGREGATION.
10:36:42PM ALL OF THIS SHOWS THAT THE CONGREGATION HAS DISTINCT
10:36:45PM INVESTMENT BACKED EXPECTATIONS IN BEING ABLE TO USE ITS
10:36:49PM PROPERTY RESIDENTIALLY.
10:36:51PM IT ALSO SHOWS THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN THE CATALYST IN
10:36:54PM CHANGING THE NEIGHBOR AND IT WOULD BE ARBITRARY AND
10:36:56PM UNREASONABLE NOT TO GIVE THE CONGREGATION THE SAME
10:36:58PM TREATMENT.
10:36:58PM NOW THAT RELATED HAS PRESENTED A PROJECT THAT HAS STAFF
10:37:03PM SUPPORT AND NO WAIVERS WE BELIEVE IS A MATTER OF PROTECTING
10:37:06PM THE CONGREGATION'S FUNDAMENTAL PROPERTY RIGHTS THIS PROJECT
10:37:09PM SHOULD BE APPROVED.
10:37:10PM ONE LAST POINT, WHEN I BECAME CITY ATTORNEY IN 2011, I
10:37:13PM INHERITED A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE CITY THAT HAD BEEN PENDING
10:37:19PM FOR SEVERAL YEARS RELATED TO THE DENIAL OF A RESIDENTIAL
10:37:21PM TOWER ON BAYSHORE A FEW BLOCKS FROM HERE.
10:37:24PM AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE CASE WAS ULTIMATELY SETTLED BY THE CITY
10:37:27PM FOR A LOT OF MONEY.
10:37:28PM I URGE YOU TO THINK CAREFULLY BEFORE MAKING YOUR FINAL VOTE
10:37:31PM IN THIS CASE.
10:37:35PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:37:35PM THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC OPPOSITION IN THE CASE AND THE
10:37:37PM CITY DENIAL OF THE PROJECT WAS BASED MORE ON EMOTION THAN ON
10:37:41PM THE LEGAL STANDING OF THE CASE.
10:37:42PM UNFORTUNATELY IN THAT CASE, THE CITY HAD TO PAY OUT MILLIONS
10:37:45PM OF DOLLARS.
10:37:46PM THE PROJECT GOT APPROVED AND THERE'S NOW A TOWER THERE.
10:37:49PM I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THAT.
10:37:51PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:37:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:37:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, THE COUNSELOR WHO SPOKE, YOU
10:38:01PM ARE A VERY FINE GENTLEMAN.
10:38:02PM I WAS HERE WHEN THAT HAPPENED.
10:38:05PM IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF THE ZONING.
10:38:06PM IT WAS BECAUSE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WANTED TO TELL THE
10:38:10PM DEVELOPER HOW TO BUILD THE BUILDING.
10:38:12PM AM I CORRECT?
10:38:14PM >> ALL I KNOW IS HOW MUCH WE PAID OUT.
10:38:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES OR NO?
10:38:17PM >> THERE WERE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS --
10:38:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:20PM THAT'S WHY WE GOT SUED.
10:38:21PM NOT BECAUSE OF THE ZONING.
10:38:23PM THEY WANTED TO IMPLEMENT CERTAIN CHANGES IN THE BUILDING
10:38:25PM THAT THEY HAD NO REASON TO DO THAT.
10:38:27PM IT WAS ABOUT THE AIR-CONDITIONERS ON TOP OF THE ROOF, PART
10:38:30PM OF IT.
10:38:31PM AND SOME OF IT WAS THE AESTHETIC OF THE OUTSIDE OF THE
10:38:34PM BUILDING.
10:38:34PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:41PM YES, SIR, MR. PRESSMAN, I BELIEVE YOU'RE UP.
10:38:43PM AND THEN WE HAVE CHARLES AND THEN JANE.
10:38:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHERE IS YOUR SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
10:38:54PM THANK YOU, SIR.
10:39:03PM MR. PRESSMAN HAS SEVEN NAMES.
10:39:07PM IF YOU ARE HERE, PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR PRESENCE.
10:39:10PM BETTY GRIFFIN.
10:39:12PM THANK YOU.
10:39:13PM ZOEY DIAZ.
10:39:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE'S THERE IN THE BACK.
10:39:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SOME PEOPLE HAVE LEFT.
10:39:24PM >> RIGHT HERE.
10:39:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT'S OKAY.
10:39:27PM YOU CAN EITHER RAISE YOUR HAND OR SAY ME OR SOMETHING TO
10:39:30PM CATCH MY EYE.
10:39:31PM TERRY WEBSTER.
10:39:32PM TERRY WEBSTER.
10:39:36PM WE'LL PASS TERRY WEBSTER.
10:39:38PM DIANE RIVERA.
10:39:40PM D-I-A-N-N-E IT LOOKS LIKE.
10:39:48PM THANK YOU.
10:39:49PM A LOT OF PEOPLE BETWEEN YOU AND THERE.
10:39:51PM BRENDA JOHNSON.
10:39:55PM THANK YOU.
10:39:56PM JOANNE WEDGE.
10:39:59PM THANK YOU.
10:40:00PM ROBERT WECK.
10:40:02PM THANK YOU.
10:40:03PM NOW WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL NAME THAT I COULD SEE IS TERRY
10:40:08PM WEBSTER, JOANNE WEDGE, ROBERT WECK.
10:40:12PM I BELIEVE THE NAMES ARE IDENTICAL.
10:40:16PM I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL NAMES ON HERE.
10:40:21PM I BELIEVE IT'S ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, AND THREE
10:40:25PM IS NINE, SIR.
10:40:27PM I'LL CALL OUT THE NAME ONE MORE TIME.
10:40:29PM THE NAME THAT DIDN'T RESPOND WAS TERRY WEBSTER.
10:40:33PM >> SHE IS NOT HERE.
10:40:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NINE MINUTES.
10:40:44PM >> MR. TODD PRESSMAN, ST. PETERSBURG.
10:40:48PM I AM PROUDLY REPRESENTING THE TAMPA GARDEN FEDERATION.
10:40:52PM THIS IS A PD CHANGE.
10:40:54PM LET'S BE VERY CLEAR, THIS IS A PD CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL
10:40:57PM ASSEMBLY PRESCHOOL, A RADICAL CHANGE TO MULTIFAMILY WHICH
10:41:01PM WAS 317 FEET BUT NOW IS 349 FEET.
10:41:05PM THAT'S CHANGED SINCE THE PowerPoint HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO
10:41:07PM YOU.
10:41:08PM THIS IS OUR SLIDE FROM MAY OF LAST YEAR.
10:41:11PM THE ISSUE IS ABOUT COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN USES.
10:41:14PM THIS IS THE SAME SLIDE.
10:41:16PM NOTHING HAS CHANGED FOR US AND THE RESIDENTS I REPRESENT AND
10:41:20PM I AM REPRESENTING OTHER RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
10:41:22PM THE OPINION IS THAT THESE TWO USES ARE LIKE OIL AND WATER.
10:41:26PM EXACT SAME ISSUE TODAY FOR US WHICH HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED
10:41:29PM BY YOUR STAFF IN ANY ANALYSIS IS AN INCOMPATIBILITY OF USES.
10:41:33PM THIS LONGTIME SUCCESSFUL ICONIC 55-YEAR-OLD BUSINESS WILL BE
10:41:37PM DISMANTLED AND DESTROYED IN THREE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT I WILL
10:41:40PM SHOW YOU.
10:41:41PM LET ME FIRST SET THE SCENE BECAUSE THAT IS MOST IMPORTANT.
10:41:44PM THE HEART IS THE OUTDOOR WEDDING GARDEN.
10:41:47PM IDYLLIC, PRIVATE, A NICE INTERIOR COMPONENT.
10:41:54PM GORGEOUS.
10:42:01PM HERE IS MY LAST SPEAKER, MR. ATTORNEY.
10:42:03PM THANK YOU.
10:42:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NAME PLEASE.
10:42:07PM >> GAY JONES.
10:42:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GAY JONES IS NOT ON THE LIST.
10:42:11PM ARE YOU WAIVING YOUR TIME?
10:42:14PM >> THANK YOU, MR. ATTORNEY.
10:42:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ADDITIONAL MINUTE.
10:42:18PM >> SPECTACULAR WEDDING GARDEN.
10:42:19PM HOW DO THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES ON THE WEB?
10:42:23PM SPECTACULAR VENUE.
10:42:24PM YOUR EVENT WILL BE PRIVATE AND EXCLUSIVE.
10:42:27PM LOOKS OVER SPECTACULAR WEDDING GARDEN.
10:42:29PM THAT IS THEIR BUSINESS.
10:42:31PM THIS IS THEIR WEBSITE AND HOW THEY PRESENT THEMSELVES.
10:42:33PM A LOT OF CORPORATE EVENTS, KIDS IN THE GARDEN DURING THE
10:42:36PM SUMMER AND OTHER EVENTS.
10:42:37PM WHAT IS PROPOSED NOW.
10:42:38PM WHAT IS DIFFERENT?
10:42:39PM WELL, PRIOR, AS I HANDED IN THE PowerPoint, IT WAS 329
10:42:43PM FEET OR IT WAS 329 FEET BACK IN MAY.
10:42:47PM TODAY IT'S 349 FEET AS WE UNDERSTAND.
10:42:50PM SO THERE'S VIRTUALLY THE SAME SIZE OR HEIGHT, SAME HEIGHT
10:42:56PM BUILDING.
10:42:56PM THAT IS EQUIVALENT TO THE CHANNELSIDE TOWERS AND THE TAMPA
10:43:00PM MARRIOTT DOWNTOWN.
10:43:01PM THOSE ARE MASSIVE BUILDINGS.
10:43:02PM THAT IS WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE.
10:43:04PM AT A 20-FOOT SETBACK TO THE GARDEN CLUB.
10:43:08PM WHAT IS YOUR METRIC ON THAT?
10:43:10PM YOUR METRIC IS A 1200% CHANGE UNDER THE PD.
10:43:13PM YOU HEAR THEIR FOLKS TALK ABOUT LAND USE CATEGORY, LAND USE
10:43:19PM CATEGORY, LAND USE CATEGORY.
10:43:20PM THEY WISH AND HOPE THEY ONLY HAD THE LAND USE CATEGORY
10:43:24PM BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDER A PD.
10:43:25PM THE PD RESTRICTS THEM.
10:43:27PM THAT IS THEIR LAND USE REGULATION.
10:43:30PM THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL.
10:43:32PM IT WILL GO TO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AGAIN, UNDER THE PD.
10:43:36PM THIS IS THE CURRENT ONE OR TWO STORY STRUCTURES CURRENTLY AS
10:43:39PM COMPARED TO THE STRUCTURE I SHOWED YOU.
10:43:42PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR NARRATIVE THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED,
10:43:45PM THEY INDICATE THEY WANT TO ADD 42 LUXURY UNITS TO FUND
10:43:51PM NEEDED REPAIRS.
10:43:52PM I DON'T SEE THAT IN YOUR POLICIES OR UNDER YOUR COMP PLAN
10:43:54PM POLICIES.
10:43:54PM THEY ALSO INDICATE IN THAT SUBMITTAL THAT THE AREA IS
10:44:01PM PLANNED FOR SIGNIFICANTLY MORE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
10:44:02PM THAT IS NOT CORRECT IN OUR OPINION BECAUSE THEY ARE UNDER A
10:44:03PM PD.
10:44:04PM AGAIN, LAND USE CATEGORY, LAND USE CATEGORY, LAND USE
10:44:06PM CATEGORY.
10:44:06PM AND WHEN THEY SHOW THAT HUGE RED AREA ON THE ENTIRE
10:44:10PM PROPERTY, YOU HAVE TO COME IN AND CHANGE THE PD.
10:44:13PM I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IS A MISDIRECTION TO PRESENT TO YOU IN
10:44:19PM OUR OPINION BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE PD.
10:44:24PM I THINK THE COMMENT WAS ANYONE CAN COME AND ASK FOR THAT.
10:44:26PM WELL, THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH ANY PROJECT.
10:44:29PM AGAIN NOT BY THE REGULATING PD IN PLACE.
10:44:31PM THE WAIVERS THAT HAVE BEEN FIXED FROM THE LAST TIME IS NOT
10:44:35PM AN ADVANCEMENT OR AN ENTICEMENT OF AN ISSUE.
10:44:39PM THOSE ARE ISSUES THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIXED LAST TIME WHEN
10:44:42PM THEY BROUGHT THIS BEFORE YOU.
10:44:44PM HERE IS THE DIFFERENCE OF AMENITY PLANS.
10:44:48PM YOU SEE THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE FROM MAY UNTIL NOW.
10:44:50PM VIRTUALLY THE SAME.
10:44:51PM THE ORIENTATION IS EXACTLY THE SAME.
10:44:53PM DIRECTLY TO THE GARDEN CENTER.
10:44:54PM 100% IN DIRECT TO THE GARDEN CENTER.
10:44:57PM SITE PLAN LOOKS VIRTUALLY THE SAME.
10:44:59PM SO WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS, VERY UNIQUE IMPORTANT IMPACTS?
10:45:03PM GENERATIONS OF TAMPA'S REGIONAL FAMILIES AND BRIDES CHOOSE
10:45:06PM THE ICONIC SITE FOR 55 YEARS.
10:45:09PM THEY ARE BOOKED AND HAVE DEPOSITS.
10:45:10PM FRIDAY, SATURDAY, SUNDAY, TO 2025.
10:45:13PM BRIDES BOOK 18 MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
10:45:16PM WHAT DO WE HAVE?
10:45:17PM THE GARDEN CLUB, SUMMER KITCHEN, POOL.
10:45:19PM I LIVE IN A BIG -- THE SUMMER KITCHEN IS A PARTY AREA.
10:45:24PM WE HAD A HUNDRED PEOPLE TODAY IN OUR BUILDING FOR A BIRTHDAY
10:45:27PM PARTY.
10:45:28PM GRILLS, KITCHEN.
10:45:29PM IT'S VERY LOUD, DRINKING AND THAT'S FINE, BUT IT IS A LOUD
10:45:32PM AREA.
10:45:33PM A POOL, WELL, YOU GET KIDS OUTSIDE AND THERE ARE A LOT OF
10:45:36PM KIDS IN THE BUILDING AND THEY ARE USING THEIR OUTSIDE VOICES
10:45:38PM AND YELLING AND SCREAMING.
10:45:40PM WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN THEY HAVE A WEDDING AND
10:45:44PM THERE ARE KIDS SCREAMING OR A HUGE PARTY NEXT DOOR?
10:45:47PM THAT IS A TERRIBLE IMPACT OF 42 STORIES, LOOMING, PRYING,
10:45:52PM AND PEERING INTO THE HEART OF THIS WEDDING GARDEN.
10:45:56PM THAT IS THEIR BUSINESS.
10:45:57PM THEY WOULD LOSE THAT SERENITY, THE PRIVACY, THE EXCLUSIVITY
10:46:02PM THAT THEY SELL BECAUSE AS WELL THE ENTIRE BALCONY IS A VIEW
10:46:06PM ON THAT GARDEN.
10:46:07PM DOGS BARKING ON BALCONIES, THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
10:46:09PM KIDS IN THE POOL.
10:46:10PM THAT IS A LOSS OF PRIVACY AND WEDDING GAWKERS.
10:46:14PM WHEN PARTICULARLY WOMEN SEE A WOMAN IN A WEDDING DRESS AT A
10:46:18PM PARTY, THEY WANT TO LOOK AT THE PARTY, SEE HOW THEY LOOK,
10:46:21PM HOW BIG THE PARTY IS.
10:46:22PM THOSE ARE ELEMENTS OF IMPACT AND CUSTOMERS AND POTENTIAL
10:46:26PM CUSTOMERS CAN MOVE RIGHT ON TO THE COMPETITION.
10:46:31PM THIS IS ALREADY OCCURRING WHEN YOU START GETTING HEADLINES
10:46:35PM LIKE THIS IN THE NEWSPAPER, WHAT HAPPENS?
10:46:38PM BRIDES START CALLING.
10:46:41PM HEADLINE AFTER HEADLINE AFTER HEADLINE AFTER STORY AFTER
10:46:44PM STORY.
10:46:44PM BRIDES ARE CALLING.
10:46:45PM I GAVE YOU A DEPOSIT.
10:46:46PM WHY ARE YOU CLOSING?
10:46:47PM WHY ARE YOU LEAVING?
10:46:49PM AM I GETTING MY MONEY BACK.
10:46:51PM WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUR PROPERTY?
10:46:52PM THEY ARE ALREADY BEING TERRIBLY AFFECTED BY JUST THE PR.
10:46:56PM YOU ARE ALL IN THE PR BUSINESS.
10:46:59PM YOU KNOW WHAT HEADLINE AFTER HEADLINE DOES.
10:47:02PM NEXT WOULD BE DISCLOSURE OF LOSS OF PRIVACY IN THE GARDEN.
10:47:07PM IF THIS IS APPROVED, THEY HAVE TO CALL EVERY BRIDE UP TO
10:47:10PM 2025 AND TELL THEM WHAT IS HAPPENING.
10:47:13PM WHAT DO YOU THINK THE BRIDE IS GOING TO DO, WAIT TO SEE IF
10:47:19PM THEY ARE OPEN OR A HUGE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.
10:47:21PM THIRD, THE BUSINESS WILL BE DESTROYED WITH TWO-TO-THREE-YEAR
10:47:24PM DEMOLITION AND CONSTRUCTION PROJECT OF A UNIT TOWER.
10:47:28PM AGAIN, BOOKED 18 MONTHS IN ADVANCE.
10:47:31PM IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THIS NEXT DOOR?
10:47:34PM MAYBE SOUND SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
10:47:42PM [JACKHAMMER]
10:47:46PM DO YOU TAKE THIS LAWFULLY -- MAN TO BE YOUR HUSBAND.
10:47:51PM OR MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
10:48:00PM DO YOU TAKE THIS WOMAN TO BE -- CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:48:03PM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:48:04PM BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, AGAIN, YOUR EVENT WILL BE PRIVATE
10:48:11PM AND EXCLUSIVE IN THE SPECTACULAR WEDDING GARDEN.
10:48:15PM THOSE DON'T GO TOGETHER, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
10:48:17PM HERE IS THE TEST.
10:48:18PM HERE IS THE TEST.
10:48:20PM THEY ARE STILL WORKING.
10:48:21PM I CAN'T GET THEM TO STOP WORKING.
10:48:23PM IF THE GARDEN CLUB WERE A SCHOOL, AUTO REPAIR, OFFICE, OR A
10:48:28PM MOVIE THEATER, WHATEVER, THIS WOULD BE PERFECTLY FINE.
10:48:32PM BUT BECAUSE OF THE 55-YEAR-OLD ICONIC USE NEXT DOOR, IT
10:48:37PM DOESN'T WORK.
10:48:38PM THE TEMPLE FOLKS WITH GREAT RESPECT TALKED ABOUT THEIR RICH
10:48:43PM HISTORY OF 55 YEARS AND THEY DO HAVE THAT BUT SO DOES THE
10:48:47PM GARDEN CLUB AND THESE ARE THE ELEMENTS THAT WILL BE
10:48:50PM DESTROYED.
10:48:51PM LONGTIME SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS, LOSS OF PRIVACY, SERENITY,
10:48:57PM QUIET, NATURAL, IDYLLIC, EVERY DAY THESE NEWSPAPERS HAPPEN,
10:49:00PM WHICH WILL HAPPEN TODAY.
10:49:02PM DISCLOSURE WHICH WILL BE REQUIRED TO EVERY CUSTOMER UP TO
10:49:05PM 2025 FOR BRIDES AND OTHER GROUPS WHO PAID DEPOSITS AND, OF
10:49:08PM COURSE, THREE-YEAR DEMOLITION.
10:49:11PM TAMPA CONSTRUCTION, SEVEN TO SIX ON MONDAY, 8 A.M. TO 6 P.M.
10:49:15PM ON SATURDAY.
10:49:17PM SUNDAYS, YOU CAN STILL DO PILE DRIVERS AND JACK HAMMERS.
10:49:20PM OKAY FROM 10 A.M. TO 6 P.M.
10:49:22PM BRIDE PARTIES ARRIVE AT 1 P.M.
10:49:25PM THEY ARRIVE TO WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN AND HEARD.
10:49:28PM CODE ENFORCEMENT IS EXTREMELY LENGTHY.
10:49:30PM DOESN'T WORK IN THESE SITUATIONS.
10:49:32PM WE KNOW SUBCONTRACTORS FOLLOW ALL THE RULES, FOLLOW ALL THE
10:49:35PM RULES FOR BONUSES AND EMPHASIS.
10:49:38PM A COUPLE OF OTHER POINTS.
10:49:40PM THIS IS A RARE UNDISTURBED PARK-LIKE AREA.
10:49:43PM IT'S ABOUT FIVE ACRES.
10:49:44PM I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT ALONG WITH THE SPRING OF FRED
10:49:48PM PARK, THE RELATED COMPANY'S OFFER IS AN INDICATION OF HOW
10:49:53PM IMPORTANT IT IS TO LEAVE THIS AREA AS AN OPEN PARK-LIKE
10:49:56PM AREA.
10:49:57PM IT IS A LOW DEVELOPED AREA FROM FRED BALL PARK, TAMPA GARDEN
10:50:01PM CLUB, RODEPH SHOLOM, TWO STORY CONDOS, TAMPA'S WOMEN CLUB.
10:50:06PM IN FACT, THEIR PLANNER POINTED THIS OUT.
10:50:08PM HE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE NONPROFITS IN THIS AREA AS A LOW
10:50:12PM AREA, HE DIDN'T SAY A SPECIAL AREA, BUT OBVIOUSLY IS A
10:50:15PM SPECIAL AREA.
10:50:16PM BUT YOUR OFFICIAL CITY REVIEW CRITERIA HAS ONE MAIN
10:50:19PM PRIORITY.
10:50:20PM DO NO HARM.
10:50:21PM CONSIDER POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS.
10:50:24PM ENCOURAGE COMPATIBILITY.
10:50:25PM PLANNING COMMISSION, CONSIDER IMPACTS.
10:50:29PM SHOW THE INTENT OF THE CITY.
10:50:31PM SHOW A UNIQUE ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERIENCE IN THE CORE OF THE
10:50:34PM URBAN AREA.
10:50:35PM RELATE NEW BUILDINGS AND DEVELOPMENT TO THE CONTEXT OF THE
10:50:38PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:50:39PM TAMMY WATERMAN IS A CERTIFIED PLANNER, MASTER PLANNER AND
10:50:42PM HER OPINION IS THAT THIS -- SHE KNOWS THE GARDEN CLUB.
10:50:45PM SHE WORKED THERE 20 YEARS AS A PLANNER, SHE HAS PUT IN THE
10:50:49PM RECORD A LETTER THAT THIS WILL BE A DESTROYING OF THIS
10:50:53PM PROPERTY.
10:50:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:50:55PM >> THANK YOU.
10:50:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP WE HAVE CHARLES WHO HAS A
10:51:01PM SPEAKER WAIVER FORM AS WELL.
10:51:02PM IF YOU COULD PLEASE SUBMIT THE SPEAKER WAIVER FORM TO THE
10:51:06PM ATTORNEY AND THE ATTORNEY WILL READ THE NAMES.
10:51:09PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE SEVEN NAMES.
10:51:20PM IF YOU COULD MAKE SURE I HEAR OR SEE YOU.
10:51:23PM TOM CONNELLY.
10:51:24PM NORA BARKETTE.
10:51:32PM >> SHE'S HERE, BUT SHE'S IN THE OTHER ROOM ON THE SECOND
10:51:37PM FLOOR.
10:51:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL MAKE A NOTE.
10:51:39PM IF SHE COMES IN AND SPEAKS, NORA BARKETTE.
10:51:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF SHE IS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
10:51:48PM DIANA SULLIVAN.
10:51:49PM LINDA DAY.
10:51:51PM KRISTEN EVANS.
10:51:55PM THANK YOU.
10:51:56PM DEAN HOUSER.
10:51:57PM THANK YOU.
10:51:57PM KATHY ECHEVARRIA.
10:52:03PM SHE'S DOWNSTAIRS, TOO.
10:52:11PM WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO REMEDY THAT.
10:52:16PM ECHEVARRIA.
10:52:17PM NORA BARKETTE.
10:52:19PM IN THE MEANTIME, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE PLUS THREE IS
10:52:23PM EIGHT.
10:52:23PM WE'LL SEE IF THE OTHER TWO CAN COME UP.
10:52:26PM THANK YOU.
10:52:31PM YOU HAVE THE TIME?
10:52:33PM EIGHT MINUTES.
10:52:36PM >> MY NAME IS CHARLES GAUTHIER.
10:52:39PM I RESIDE AT 1780 COPPERFIELD CIRCLE.
10:52:43PM THAT'S IN TALLAHASSEE, FLORIDA.
10:52:45PM I AM A PLANNER.
10:52:48PM I HAVE BEEN HIRED BY THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB TO INDEPENDENTLY
10:52:52PM REVIEW THIS ZONING PROPOSAL, WHICH I'VE DONE.
10:52:56PM I DID SUBMIT A WRITTEN REPORT FOR THE RECORD.
10:52:59PM I'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE A COPY AVAILABLE TO YOU RIGHT NOW, A
10:53:03PM HARD COPY, IF THAT'S PERMISSIBLE.
10:53:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
10:53:10PM >> LET ME INTRODUCE MYSELF VERY QUICKLY.
10:53:13PM I SEE THE CLOCK IS RUNNING.
10:53:14PM I'M A RESIDENT OF TAMPA IN THE EARLY 1970s.
10:53:18PM I WENT TO USF.
10:53:20PM IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TOWN NOW.
10:53:23PM IN FACT, I PLAYED A QUIET ROLE IN THE BACKGROUND, BUT IT WAS
10:53:27PM REALLY YOUR WORK THAT HAS BUILT TAMPA INTO ONE OF THE
10:53:31PM PREMIER CITIES --
10:53:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE YOU NORMA BARKETTE?
10:53:36PM I SEE KATHY ECHEVARRIA.
10:53:40PM ADD TWO MORE MINUTES TO HIS TIME.
10:53:43PM >> THANK YOU.
10:53:43PM AS I WAS SAYING, TAMPA HAS BECOME A PREMIER CITY.
10:53:47PM IN FACT, IN THE WHOLE NATION.
10:53:48PM THERE IS A LOT TO BE PROUD OF, BUT I KNOW THE CHALLENGES YOU
10:53:51PM FACE DAY TO DAY, WEEK BY WEEK.
10:53:54PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:53:55PM AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS BALANCING THE PRESSURES FROM
10:53:58PM NEW GROWTH PROTECTING THE HISTORIC QUALITIES THAT HAS
10:54:07PM PROPELLED YOUR SUCCESS.
10:54:08PM THAT'S WHAT I THINK THIS CASE IS ABOUT.
10:54:10PM I THINK THE KEY ISSUE IN THIS MATTER IS THE BUILDING HEIGHT,
10:54:13PM PROPOSED 26 STORIES, WHETHER IT'S COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT
10:54:17PM AND NEARBY USES AND WHETHER IT FITS IN WITH THE R-35 FUTURE
10:54:23PM LAND USE CATEGORY.
10:54:24PM LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY QUALIFICATIONS.
10:54:26PM LIKE MR. SMITH, I'VE BEEN IN A BUSINESS FOR 46 YEARS NOW.
10:54:31PM IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE.
10:54:32PM CERTIFIED PLANNER.
10:54:34PM I WAS INDUCTED AS A FELLOW INTO THE INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED
10:54:38PM PLANNERS, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST AWARD AVAILABLE AT A NATIONAL
10:54:42PM LEVEL.
10:54:43PM I'VE BEEN A CHIEF PLANNER FOR COLLIER COUNTY, A ZONING
10:54:46PM ADMINISTRATOR FOR LEE COUNTY.
10:54:47PM I'VE WORKED FOR MAJOR CONSULTANTS ON DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS,
10:54:51PM LARGE AND SMALL.
10:54:53PM I WORKED FOR 17 YEARS AS A SENIOR OFFICIAL AT THE DEPARTMENT
10:54:57PM OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
10:55:00PM I HAD MY HANDS ON AND PLAYED A ROLE IN THE REVIEW OF OVER
10:55:03PM 5,000 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PACKAGES, DRIs, INCLUDING FROM
10:55:07PM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:55:10PM HOW ALL THAT HAPPENED I REALLY CAN'T EXPLAIN.
10:55:13PM I'M ACTUALLY A SHY INDIVIDUAL.
10:55:16PM LET ME GET TO IT AND REFOCUS.
10:55:22PM COMPATIBILITY.
10:55:23PM COMPATIBILITY IS ABOUT ADJACENT AND NEARBY USES.
10:55:29PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ADJACENT AND NEARBY USES TO THE SUBJECT
10:55:33PM PROPERTY, THE PROPOSAL IS INCOMPATIBLE.
10:55:39PM AND THAT IS THE HEIGHT, THE MASS, THE SCALE OF THE
10:55:46PM DEVELOPMENT.
10:55:47PM AND MY FOCUS IS ON THE BUILDING HEIGHT, NOT SO MUCH THE
10:55:51PM NUMBER OF UNITS, BUT THE BUILDING HEIGHT.
10:55:53PM IT SIMPLY CONFLICTS WITH THE LOW TWO-STORY TAMPA GARDEN CLUB
10:55:59PM AND ITS FUNCTION.
10:56:01PM IT CONFLICTS WITH --
10:56:03PM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]
10:56:06PM I MEAN, MR. PRESSMAN TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS.
10:56:31PM THERE'S ADVERSE VISUAL IMPACTS.
10:56:33PM THAT'S IMPORTANT.
10:56:34PM THERE IS A LOSS OF PRIVACY.
10:56:36PM THERE'S SHADOWING.
10:56:37PM THERE'S NOISE.
10:56:40PM THERE IS A FUNDAMENTAL DEGRADATION IN THE QUALITY OF LIFE
10:56:44PM FOR THOSE EXISTING USES THERE IN THE BAYSHORE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:56:47PM NOW, REGARDING THE BUILDING HEIGHT, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.
10:56:51PM THE STAFF REPORT AND THE APPLICANT'S NARRATIVE TALKED ABOUT
10:56:56PM 317 FEET.
10:56:59PM MR. CREMER A LITTLE EARLIER IN ONE OF HIS SLIDES SAID
10:57:03PM SOMETHING ABOUT 278 FEET FROM -- I SAW AN E-MAIL THAT TALKED
10:57:11PM ABOUT 297 FEET, EXCUSE ME, YEAH.
10:57:14PM 349 FEET.
10:57:17PM SO THERE IS A LACK OF CLARITY ABOUT THE FINAL BUILDING
10:57:21PM HEIGHT.
10:57:22PM I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE TIED DOWN.
10:57:24PM IT COULD BE 317 OR YOU COULD ADD 10% TO THAT.
10:57:28PM I THINK IT AMOUNTS TO THE SAME THING.
10:57:30PM TOO TALL A BUILDING IN THE WRONG PLACE GIVEN THE ADJACENT
10:57:34PM USES.
10:57:34PM THE GRAPHIC HERE ILLUSTRATES IT AND YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH
10:57:39PM THIS.
10:57:39PM THE GARDEN CLUB IMMEDIATELY NEXT DOOR IN LIGHT GREEN,
10:57:43PM TWO-STORY BUILDING.
10:57:46PM THE WEDDING AREA, OF COURSE, PARKING AND GROUNDS.
10:57:51PM ON THE CORNER, YOU HAVE A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
10:57:53PM YOU HAVE THE TOWN HOUSES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
10:57:56PM THESE ARE ALL WITHIN THE R-35 FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICT.
10:58:01PM AND I THINK THE FOCUS AGAIN NEEDS TO BE ON THE ADJACENT
10:58:05PM NEARBY USES WITH ATTENTION TO THE R-35 DISTRICT.
10:58:11PM AND THE STAFF REPORT I NOTICED IT LOOKED AT DEVELOPMENT
10:58:16PM WITHIN A THOUSAND FEET, FAR AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
10:58:21PM IT LOOKED AT TALL BUILDINGS HALF A MILE AWAY.
10:58:26PM I SEEN THE SAME THING IN THE APPLICANT'S SUBMITTAL.
10:58:29PM SO THEY ARE LOOKING FAR BEYOND THE ADJACENT NEARBY USES
10:58:35PM WHERE I BELIEVE WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE GARDEN CLUB, THE
10:58:40PM SINGLE-FAMILY, THE TOWN HOUSES, THE WOMAN'S CLUB AND THE
10:58:44PM OFFICE BUILDING, WITHIN THAT R-35 DISTRICT.
10:58:49PM I BOXED IN ON THIS GRAPHIC THE EXTENT OF THAT DISTRICT.
10:58:52PM IT'S ABOUT 13 ACRES.
10:58:55PM AND THAT -- THOSE ARE THE USES WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.
10:59:00PM IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD HAVE SOUGHT AN R 83
10:59:09PM DISTRICT.
10:59:09PM R 35 ISN'T AN APPROPRIATE DISTRICT WITH PARTICULAR REGARD TO
10:59:13PM THE BUILDING HEIGHT.
10:59:14PM SO MY COMPATIBILITY CONCLUSION IS REALLY BASED ON THE
10:59:20PM ADJACENT AND NEARBY USES, AND MY CONSISTENCY VIEW IS SIMPLY
10:59:27PM INCONSISTENT WITH THE BALANCE THAT R 35 DISTRICT.
10:59:32PM IF THE BUILDING HEIGHTS ARE SOUGHT, WELL, IT SHOULD BE IN A
10:59:36PM DIFFERENT DISTRICT OR SHOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE
10:59:38PM DISTRICT.
10:59:39PM IT'S OUT OF STEP.
10:59:41PM OUT OF ORDER.
10:59:42PM MY REPORT INCLUDES A NUMBER OF POLICIES AND CITATIONS.
10:59:46PM ONE POLICY I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON FOR A MOMENT, I'VE HEARD
10:59:55PM REFERENCE TO UNDERDEVELOPMENT.
10:59:57PM I DON'T THINK THIS IS UNDERDEVELOPED.
10:59:59PM IN FACT, I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF TAMPA'S
11:00:04PM HERITAGE.
11:00:05PM IT IS THE SWATH OF GREEN, LOW INTENSITY USES IS VERY
11:00:08PM IMPORTANT TO BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, WHICH YOU CHARACTERIZE IN
11:00:13PM YOUR PLAN AS EMERALD JEWEL.
11:00:16PM YOU COMMIT IN YOUR PLAN TO CONTINUE TO PRESERVE AND ENHANCE
11:00:20PM THE BALANCE OF NATURAL AND PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENTS ON BAYSHORE
11:00:24PM BOULEVARD.
11:00:25PM SO THIS ISN'T UNDERDEVELOPED.
11:00:30PM THIS IS A PRECIOUS PART OF THAT JEWEL THAT YOU HAVE.
11:00:32PM SEVERAL OTHER POINTS, I SEE I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME ALREADY.
11:00:38PM BUILDING HEIGHT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU GET TO 26
11:00:42PM STORIES.
11:00:43PM IN YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE IS A MATRIX THAT SAYS
11:00:47PM MEDIUM DENSITY SUCH AS R 35 ALLOW 8 STORIES.
11:00:52PM HOW IS THIS JUSTIFIED?
11:00:55PM IT COULD BE JUSTIFIED BY A SPECIAL DISTRICT, AN OVERLAY, OR
11:01:01PM LOCATION.
11:01:01PM ONLY LOCATION APPLIES HERE AND THIS LOCATION DOESN'T SUPPORT
11:01:05PM THAT SCALE BUILDING.
11:01:07PM SO, AGAIN, THE PROBLEM HERE IS NOT THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
11:01:11PM IT'S THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING.
11:01:14PM ALL THIS IS A SYMPTOM OF TOO MUCH STUFF ON ONE SITE.
11:01:18PM TOO MUCH DEVELOPMENT, OVERDEVELOPED.
11:01:20PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THE DENSITY IS MAXIMIZED WITHOUT
11:01:25PM CONSIDERATION OF ANY BONUSES.
11:01:27PM THE FLOOR AREA RATIO WOULD BE MAXIMIZED ON THE SITE.
11:01:34PM PARKING WAIVER IS OFF THE TABLE SINCE THAT IS -- PARKING IS
11:01:40PM A PROBLEM IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:01:41PM SITE ACCESS, ALL THIS ACCESS NOT AN ARTERIAL, NOT A
11:01:49PM COLLECTOR.
11:01:49PM IT ACCESSES LOCAL STREETS.
11:01:52PM SO THE BOTTOM LINE BASED ON MY ANALYSIS IS TOO MUCH
11:01:56PM DEVELOPMENT ON TOO SMALL A SITE IN THE WRONG LOCATION.
11:02:01PM FINALLY I LIKE TO TOUCH ON COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
11:02:05PM YOU KNOW HOW SERIOUS AN ISSUE THAT IS.
11:02:07PM WE'VE SEEN IT.
11:02:09PM SUBSTANTIAL AREAS ALONG BAYSHORE ARE IN THE HIGH HAZARD
11:02:12PM ZONE.
11:02:13PM THAT MEANS IT'S VULNERABLE TO STORMWATER SURGE AND SALTWATER
11:02:17PM FLOODING IN A CATEGORY 1 EVENT.
11:02:20PM IT GETS WORSE AS THE EVENTS GO UP AND SEA LEVEL RISES.
11:02:26PM I THINK THAT ALSO WORKS TO TEMPER THE DEGREE OF DEVELOPMENT
11:02:31PM WHICH WOULD DRAW DOWN THAT BUILDING HEIGHT.
11:02:35PM SO IT IS A HIGH-RISK AREA.
11:02:38PM THIS PROPOSAL WOULD PUT PEOPLE AND PROPERTY IN HARM'S WAY.
11:02:41PM MY RECOMMENDATION IS, NO, THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
11:02:45PM I'D RECOMMEND THAT YOU SAY NO.
11:02:47PM IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
11:02:49PM WRONG PLACE.
11:02:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:03:01PM >> IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO CROSS-EXAMINE MR. GAUTHIER.
11:03:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CREMER WISHES TO CROSS-EXAMINE THE
11:03:10PM PREVIOUS SPEAKER.
11:03:10PM IS THAT APPROPRIATE?
11:03:11PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION.
11:03:24PM WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK A QUESTION OF THE
11:03:26PM GENTLEMAN?
11:03:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, QUESTIONS ARE APPROPRIATE.
11:03:28PM YOU WOULD LIKE TO CROSS-EXAMINE.
11:03:30PM CAN WE DO THAT AFTER WE TAKE COUNCIL MEMBER QUESTIONS?
11:03:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU CITED FLORIDA STATUTE 161.3164 IN TERMS
11:03:46PM OF COMPATIBILITY AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE STAFF REPORT AS
11:03:50PM GOING AS FAR AS A THOUSAND FEET AND YOU SAID WE SHOULD ONLY
11:03:54PM CONSIDER ADJACENT NEARBY USES.
11:03:56PM SO TWO QUESTIONS.
11:03:58PM ONE IS, DOES IT SAY SOMEWHERE IN STATUTE, IS THERE SOME
11:04:03PM LEGAL BASIS FOR ADJACENT NEARBY USES VERSUS A THOUSAND FEET?
11:04:07PM AND THEN AS STATED BY THE APPLICANT, THERE IS -- THERE ARE
11:04:13PM TWO HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS KIND OF ACROSS THE STREET, SO WOULD
11:04:18PM THEY BE CONSIDERED ADJACENT NEARBY USES ALSO?
11:04:21PM >> THE STATUTE DOESN'T SPECIFY ADJACENT OR NEARBY.
11:04:25PM YOUR OWN PLAN POLICIES REFER TO ADJACENT, NEARBY IN THE
11:04:29PM CONTEXT OF COMPATIBILITY.
11:04:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS?
11:04:33PM I KNOW YOU'RE FROM TALLAHASSEE, BUT DO YOU REMEMBER THE
11:04:36PM NUMBER?
11:04:37PM IS.
11:04:42PM >> THE POLICY WAS ACTUALLY IN THE APPLICANT'S SUPPLEMENTAL
11:04:46PM PLANNING ANALYSIS, WHICH IT WOULD TAKE ME A WHILE TO FIND.
11:04:50PM IT'S YOUR PLAN.
11:04:52PM IT'S YOUR PLAN.
11:04:53PM AS FAR AS NEARBY OTHER USES THAT ARE TALL, YES, THEY EXIST,
11:05:00PM AND THEY ARE IN DIFFERENT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORIES.
11:05:04PM THEY ARE NOT IN R 35.
11:05:05PM R 35 SAYS TYPICALLY 8 STORIES.
11:05:11PM MEDIAN DENSITY.
11:05:12PM IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT R 83 WHICH IS HIGH DENSITY,
11:05:16PM TYPICALLY THOSE BUILDING HEIGHTS COULD BE MUCH TALLER.
11:05:20PM SO I LOOK AT IT VERY DIFFERENTLY OUTSIDE OF THIS PARTICULAR
11:05:25PM R-35 DISTRICT.
11:05:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CREMER, IF YOU WISH TO CROSS-EXAMINE
11:05:33PM THE GENTLEMAN, GO AHEAD.
11:05:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CREMER, I DO HAVE A REQUEST FOR YOU, IF
11:05:37PM YOU DON'T MIND.
11:05:38PM DIRECT YOUR QUESTIONS FORWARD, IF POSSIBLE.
11:05:42PM COUNCIL CAN HEAR IT AND THE MICROPHONE PICKS IT UP.
11:05:46PM BASICALLY YOUR QUESTIONING AND ANSWER COMES THROUGH THE
11:05:49PM CHAIR.
11:05:49PM THANK YOU.
11:05:52PM >> COUNCIL, MAY I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REDIRECT?
11:05:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: REDIRECT?
11:05:59PM >> YES.
11:06:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME WEIGH THAT WHILE THE
11:06:05PM CROSS-EXAMINATION CONTINUES.
11:06:08PM >> THANK YOU.
11:06:09PM JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.
11:06:11PM MR. GAUTHIER, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH ME THAT A PLANNER SHOULD
11:06:15PM CONSIDER THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT IN THE COMPATIBILITY
11:06:19PM ANALYSIS?
11:06:20PM >> YES.
11:06:24PM >> MR. GAUTHIER, I'VE BEEN REVIEWING YOUR REPORT HERE.
11:06:30PM I JUST GOT IT, BUT I DON'T SEE A MENTION IN YOUR REPORT OF
11:06:36PM THE ALTURA, THE SANCTUARY, THE RITZ RESIDENCES, AQUATICA, OR
11:06:40PM PRESBYTERIAN APARTMENTS.
11:06:43PM ARE THOSE REFERENCES IN YOUR REPORT TO THOSE TOWERS?
11:06:47PM >> NO.
11:06:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CREMER, I'LL ASK YOU TO TAKE A STEP
11:06:53PM CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE AND DIRECT FORWARD, PLEASE.
11:06:58PM >> MR. GAUTHIER, WERE YOU AN EXPERT WITNESS OPPOSING
11:07:00PM DEVELOPMENT IN A CASE CALLED CONSERVANCY OF SOUTHWEST
11:07:05PM FLORIDA VERSUS COLLIER COUNTY AND COLLIER ENTERPRISES IN
11:07:09PM COLLIER COUNTY?
11:07:10PM >> YES, SIR, IN CIRCUIT COURT, COLLIER COUNTY.
11:07:15PM >> MR. GAUTHIER, IN THAT CASE CONCERNING YOUR EXPERT
11:07:19PM OPINION, DID THE JUDGE FIND THAT IN THE END, QUOTE, MR.
11:07:23PM GAUTHIER'S OPINIONS REST UPON THE OMISSION OF KEYWORDS FROM
11:07:27PM THE GMP AND THE ADDITION OF WORDS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT DO
11:07:32PM NOT EXIST IN THE GMP, ACCORDINGLY, THE COURT GIVES HIS
11:07:36PM OPINION MINIMAL WEIGHT.
11:07:38PM >> THAT'S ACCURATE.
11:07:39PM I'D LIKE TO EXPLAIN.
11:07:41PM >> THANK YOU.
11:07:41PM NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
11:07:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:07:48PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:07:49PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:07:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REGARD TO THE REDIRECT, I BELIEVE IT
11:07:55PM WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER EITHER USING YOUR
11:08:00PM TIME OR IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL TIME FOR WHATEVER REASON FOR
11:08:03PM DUE PROCESS IF YOU ARE REPRESENTING SOMEBODY WHO IS IN THE
11:08:07PM NOTICED AREA.
11:08:08PM MY SUGGESTION IS IT'S VERY UNUSUAL.
11:08:11PM WE HAVE NOT HAD A REDIRECT.
11:08:13PM I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH AN OBLIGATION FOR REDIRECT.
11:08:15PM YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SPOKEN OR IDENTIFIED OR PARTICIPATED YET.
11:08:19PM MY SUGGESTION IS, IF YOU WANT TO RAISE THAT ISSUE DURING
11:08:23PM YOUR TIME, YOU CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AT THIS
11:08:28PM TIME.
11:08:32PM I'M SAYING WHEN YOU COME UP, YOU CAN USE YOUR TIME HOWEVER
11:08:35PM YOU SEE FIT.
11:08:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT RIGHT NOW.
11:08:37PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:08:37PM >> I APPRECIATE THAT.
11:08:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:08:40PM >> IF MR. GAUTHIER COULD FINISH HIS RESPONSE TO MR. CREMER.
11:08:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I BELIEVE HE DID FINISH HIS REQUEST, AT
11:08:50PM LEAST AS FAR AS MR. CREMER WAS CONCERNED.
11:08:54PM >> I RESPONDED HE WAS CORRECT BUT THERE WAS AN EXPLANATION.
11:08:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW THE ANSWER IS, FRANKLY, AND I'M NOT
11:09:00PM SUGGESTING OR PROFFERING IT, AND THIS IS TRUE FOR NOT ONLY
11:09:04PM THIS WITNESS, JUST AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS DONE, BUT ANY
11:09:09PM COUNCIL MEMBER CAN MAKE INQUIRY OF ANY WITNESS THEY WISH TO
11:09:13PM BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THEY MAY HAVE, YOUR
11:09:17PM OPPORTUNITY.
11:09:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:09:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD LIKE HIM TO EXPLAIN.
11:09:22PM >> YES, MA'AM.
11:09:22PM I'VE BEEN QUALIFIED AS AN EXPERT WITNESS IN 39 CASES,
11:09:29PM PROBABLY 35 OF THEM CAME OUT MY DIRECTION.
11:09:34PM IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IT DID NOT.
11:09:36PM IT HAD TO DO WITH A THOUSAND-ACRE DEVELOPMENT AREA WITH
11:09:40PM 2,000 UNITS LOCATED SOUTH OF IMMOKALEE PURSUANT TO A RURAL
11:09:45PM LAND STEWARDSHIP PROGRAM.
11:09:48PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLED FOR A WALKABLE COMMUNITY, AND
11:09:53PM THERE ARE A SERIES OF POLICIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
11:09:56PM THAT SPOKE TO WALKABILITY.
11:10:00PM THE POLICY THAT PREVAILED AND THE JUDGE'S CONCLUSION WAS A
11:10:06PM SINGLE POLICY THAT SAID WALKABILITY WILL BE ACHIEVED THROUGH
11:10:12PM SIDEWALKS, REQUIRED SIDEWALKS.
11:10:14PM MY ANALYSIS HAD TO DO WITH WALK LENGTHS, DISTANCES TO
11:10:24PM DESTINATIONS.
11:10:29PM I OUTLINED A SCENARIO OF ONE SINGLE PERIMETER ROAD WITH A
11:10:35PM SIDEWALK AND THE JUDGE DIDN'T AGREE.
11:10:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:10:38PM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:10:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:10:43PM I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
11:10:46PM ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT THE OPPOSING
11:10:52PM MEMBERS PRESENTED COMPARED TO THIS ONE?
11:10:54PM >> NOT IN DETAIL, NO, MA'AM.
11:10:57PM GENERALLY.
11:10:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST GENERALLY WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR.
11:11:01PM >> YES, MA'AM.
11:11:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY WENT FROM FIVE WAIVERS TO NO WAIVERS.
11:11:05PM PUTTING UP A GREEN WALL.
11:11:06PM THEY ARE HAVING THESE IMPROVEMENTS, THESE SIGNIFICANT
11:11:08PM IMPROVEMENTS.
11:11:09PM THE FOLKS THAT ARE ASKING YOU TO REPRESENT THEM, WAS IT
11:11:15PM PRESENTED WHERE YOU WERE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE PROJECT AND
11:11:19PM MAKE A DECISION OR WAS IT -- WERE YOU HIRED TO SPEAK AGAINST
11:11:25PM THE PROJECT?
11:11:27PM HOW DOES THAT WORK?
11:11:29PM >> NO, MA'AM.
11:11:29PM I WOULD NEVER SURVIVE THAT WAY.
11:11:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY PAID YOU AND THEN YOU TOLD THEM YOU
11:11:35PM SUPPORTED THEM.
11:11:36PM >> THEY APPROACHED ME.
11:11:38PM I STUDIED IT.
11:11:39PM I REACHED AN INITIAL OPINION.
11:11:43PM I SAID I THINK THIS IS WHAT I WOULD CONCLUDE.
11:11:47PM I CONTINUED MY WORK UNDER A FORMAL ENGAGEMENT AND REACHED A
11:11:52PM FINAL CONCLUSION.
11:11:53PM NO, I DON'T JUMP INTO CASES I DON'T AGREE WITH.
11:11:57PM I LOOK AT THEM HARD AND ONLY THEN.
11:12:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I UNDERSTAND.
11:12:01PM IF YOU STUDIED IT, WHY WOULDN'T THE PREVIOUS BODY OF WORK
11:12:07PM THAT WAS BEING PRESENTED FOR THAT SITE BE A PART OF YOUR
11:12:11PM CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU WERE MAKING YOUR DECISION?
11:12:14PM >> WELL, IT WAS.
11:12:15PM I WANT TO BE CLEAR --
11:12:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WEREN'T FAMILIAR
11:12:19PM WITH IT.
11:12:20PM >> I SAID I'M GENERALLY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
11:12:22PM THE BUILDING HEIGHT WAS SLIGHTLY HIGHER.
11:12:24PM THERE WERE ADDITIONAL WAIVERS.
11:12:26PM TO ME, IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY THE SAME PROJECT, VERY TALL
11:12:31PM BUILDING ON A SMALL SITE ADJACENT --
11:12:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S NOT THE SAME BECAUSE OUR STAFF
11:12:36PM DETERMINED THAT IT WASN'T THE SAME.
11:12:39PM ANYWAY, THANK YOU.
11:12:40PM I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING --
11:12:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:12:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: I COULD ASK A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS BUT IT'S
11:12:49PM GOING TO BE A LATE NIGHT.
11:12:50PM I APPRECIATE YOU, SIR, AND YOUR COMING DOWN HERE.
11:12:53PM REALLY QUICK QUESTION, YOU MENTIONED I THINK 39 CASES YOU
11:12:56PM TESTIFIED IN UNLESS I HEARD INCORRECTLY, HOW MUCH OF A
11:12:59PM PERCENTAGE OF YOUR INCOME AND THE WORK THAT YOU DO IS
11:13:03PM DERIVED FROM EXPERT WORK RETAINED AS A PARTY?
11:13:05PM IF YOU CAN ESTIMATE THAT.
11:13:08PM >> WELL, ALL OF IT REALLY IN TERMS OF FINAL LEGAL
11:13:12PM PROCEEDINGS, PROBABLY TWO-THIRDS.
11:13:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: AGAIN, LATE NIGHT.
11:13:17PM THANK YOU.
11:13:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:13:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME JUST ASK, 39 CASES, HOW LONG HAVE
11:13:24PM YOU BEEN DOING THIS?
11:13:27PM >> OVER 46 YEARS.
11:13:32PM A NUMBER OF THE CASES WERE WHEN I REPRESENTED THE DEPARTMENT
11:13:34PM OF COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
11:13:36PM I WORKED ON MY OWN THE LAST TEN YEARS.
11:13:39PM I'VE HAD CLIENTS THROUGHOUT CENTRAL AND SOUTH FLORIDA.
11:13:42PM PROBABLY IN TWO FINAL LEGAL PROCEEDINGS A YEAR.
11:13:47PM MOST OF ALL REPRESENTING THE STATE, SOME MORE RECENTLY.
11:13:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HAD 39 CASES OF WHICH 35 WERE RULED
11:13:55PM IN YOUR FAVORITE.
11:13:56PM DOES THAT MEAN BY A JUDGE OR BY WHO?
11:13:59PM >> BY EITHER AN ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE OR A CIRCUIT COURT
11:14:03PM JUDGE.
11:14:04PM THAT'S AN APPROXIMATE NUMBER.
11:14:06PM THE MAJORITY.
11:14:07PM MAJORITY MOST DEFINITELY.
11:14:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:14:11PM YES, SIR.
11:14:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY AND THE CITY ATTORNEY, I'VE NEVER SEEN
11:14:21PM THIS SITUATION BEFORE WHERE AN OPPOSING PARTY WANTED TO
11:14:25PM CROSS-EXAMINE, AND IT APPEARS THERE MAY BE POTENTIALLY
11:14:31PM MULTIPLE ATTORNEYS REPRESENTING MULTIPLE PARTIES.
11:14:35PM NOT EVERYBODY HAS IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES AND WHO THEY
11:14:37PM REPRESENT.
11:14:37PM FOR THE RECORD, COULD WE GET CLARIFICATION AS TO WHETHER
11:14:42PM AGGRIEVED PARTIES HAVE THE RIGHT TO CROSS-EXAMINE AND DO
11:14:45PM THEY HAVE ANY SPECIAL ENTITLEMENT OTHER THAN THE THREE
11:14:48PM MINUTES THEY WOULD GET IN PUBLIC COMMENT?
11:14:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE RAISING
11:14:55PM THE ISSUE I BELIEVE WITH REGARD TO MS. GRAHAM.
11:15:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER ATTORNEYS ARE
11:15:03PM REPRESENTING OTHER PARTIES OUT THERE.
11:15:05PM AND THERE ARE TWO PARTIES AND THE APPLICANT.
11:15:12PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PARTIES ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
11:15:15PM WHAT WOULD QUALIFY AS A PARTY THAT WOULD HAVE THE SPECIAL
11:15:19PM STATUS TO REPRESENT A GROUP AND CROSS-EXAMINE WITNESSES?
11:15:25PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:15:27PM AT THIS POINT THE PARTIES TO THIS PROCEEDING ARE THE CITY OF
11:15:30PM TAMPA AND THE APPLICANT.
11:15:31PM IF ANYONE ELSE THAT IS PARTICIPATING ARE INTERESTED MEMBERS
11:15:37PM OF THE PUBLIC BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE PARTY STATUS IN THE
11:15:41PM ZONING.
11:15:42PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THE APPLICANT ONLY RELATED OR ALSO
11:15:45PM RODEPH?
11:15:46PM >>CATE WELLS: I'LL DEFER TO MR. CREMER TO ANSWER THAT.
11:15:49PM >> THE APPLICANT IS THE RELATED GROUP, RODEPH SHOLOM IS THE
11:15:52PM LANDOWNER.
11:15:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT THERE'S NO SPECIAL STATUS TO AGGRIEVED
11:15:59PM PARTIES TO HAVE ANY COMMENTS OTHER THAN THREE MINUTES FOR --
11:16:02PM >>CATE WELLS: WELL, AT THIS POINT WE HAVE MEMBERS OF THE
11:16:04PM PUBLIC THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THE OUTCOME OF THIS
11:16:06PM PROCEEDING.
11:16:07PM I WOULDN'T SAY THEY ARE AGGRIEVED PARTIES DURING THIS
11:16:10PM PROCEEDING BECAUSE A DECISION HAS NOT BEEN MADE.
11:16:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ANYBODY WHO HAS ANY OTHER OPINION OTHER
11:16:17PM THAN THE APPLICANT, IF THEY HAVE AN ATTORNEY HERE
11:16:20PM REPRESENTING THEM, DO THEY HAVE ANY RIGHTS?
11:16:23PM >>CATE WELLS: I BELIEVE ONLY PARTIES HAVE THE RIGHT TO
11:16:26PM CROSS-EXAMINE, I BELIEVE.
11:16:27PM MR. SHELBY CAN CONFIRM THAT.
11:16:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:31PM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:16:32PM NEXT UP WE HAVE JANE GRAHAM WHO HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM
11:16:39PM WITH FIVE PEOPLE.
11:16:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM?
11:16:46PM >> YES, I DO.
11:16:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DO NOT REPRESENT ANY PARTIES IN THIS
11:16:58PM CASE.
11:16:59PM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:16:59PM I REPRESENT ALTURA BAYSHORE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.
11:17:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
11:17:03PM IF YOU WANT TO REFERENCE THE CONVERSATION AS PART OF YOUR
11:17:07PM TIME.
11:17:07PM WITH REGARD TO CROSS-EXAMINATION, I THINK THE DETERMINATION
11:17:11PM HAS BEEN MADE RESOLVING THAT FOR YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE SO
11:17:14PM SITUATED.
11:17:15PM IF I CAN HEAR YOUR PRESENCE, PLEASE.
11:17:18PM I SEE FIVE NAMES.
11:17:20PM JOANNE HOUSER.
11:17:21PM JAMES ALVER.
11:17:25PM LORD ALVER.
11:17:29PM MARTIN PREVADA.
11:17:34PM AND PREVADA.
11:17:37PM A TOTAL OF 8.
11:17:38PM >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, MY NAME IS JANE GRAHAM.
11:17:41PM I AM AN ATTORNEY AND FOUNDER OF SUNSHINE CITY LAW AT 737
11:17:44PM MAIN STREET, SAFETY HARBOR.
11:17:46PM I REPRESENT ALTURA BAYSHORE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.
11:17:50PM ON BEHALF OF MY CLIENTS, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU
11:17:53PM DENY THIS APPLICATION TONIGHT.
11:17:55PM ALTURA ADOPTS THE ARGUMENTS OF THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB AND
11:18:00PM EXPERT TESTIMONY OF EXPERT LAND USE PLANNER CHARLES
11:18:04PM GAUTHIER.
11:18:05PM LAST MAY, THE CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY DENIED RESOLUTION
11:18:08PM 2293, THE OLD APPLICATION.
11:18:12PM AND TONIGHT, YOU'RE CONSIDERING THIS NEW APPLICATION WHICH
11:18:15PM IS SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR AND STILL INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE
11:18:19PM SURROUNDING AREA.
11:18:20PM THE APPLICATION FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF
11:18:25PM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT UNDER SECTION 27-136 LDC AND IS STILL
11:18:31PM INCONSISTENT WITH CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
11:18:34PM THE APPLICANT HAS REMOVED THE REQUEST FOR THE NEW WAIVERS,
11:18:38PM BUT THERE ARE STILL UNRESOLVED ISSUES WITH OVERDEVELOPMENT,
11:18:43PM COMPATIBILITY, AND IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:18:46PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE RENDERING OF THE BUILDING FROM LAST MAY
11:18:52PM AND THE NEW ONE UNDER CONSIDERATION, IT'S ACTUALLY HARD TO
11:18:56PM TELL THE DIFFERENCE.
11:18:57PM IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE OLD PLAN AND NEW
11:19:02PM SITE PLANS, LET'S DRILL DOWN TO A COUPLE OF THEM.
11:19:05PM THE TOP FLOOR LAST TIME WAS 329.
11:19:08PM THIS TIME IT'S 317.
11:19:10PM THE DIFFERENCE IS 12 FEET, 3.5% REDUCTION.
11:19:14PM THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE BUILDING LAST TIME WAS 356.
11:19:19PM NOW THE SITE PLAN DOESN'T ACTUALLY INCLUDE THIS NUMBER IN
11:19:22PM YOUR APPLICATION FOR THE NEW ONE, HOWEVER THERE IS AN E-MAIL
11:19:26PM CONFIRMED BY MS. LaCHONE DOCK THAT IT WOULD BE 349.
11:19:31PM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BY E-MAIL THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE
11:19:34PM SEEN IN THE DOCUMENT, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS WORTH SHARING
11:19:36PM WITH YOU.
11:19:37PM THAT IS 1.9% REDUCTION AND JUST A DIFFERENCE OF SEVEN FEET.
11:19:42PM THE FLOORS HAVE GONE DOWN FROM 29 TO 26, DIFFERENCE OF TWO
11:19:47PM -- DIFFERENCE OF THREE.
11:19:50PM NOW, THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT THE GROSS FLOOR AREA IS
11:19:54PM THE SAME.
11:19:55PM SO THE BULK, MASSING, AND SCALE OF THE BUILDING REMAINS.
11:19:58PM THIS IS ACTUALLY SURPRISING BECAUSE THERE ARE EIGHT FEWER
11:20:01PM UNITS, BUT THE APPLICANT EXPANDED THE INDIVIDUAL UNITS TO BE
11:20:05PM LARGER AND COVER THE SAME AREA.
11:20:08PM SO HERE IS THE ODD THING AS WELL.
11:20:10PM IF YOU APPROVE THIS REZONING TONIGHT, THE APPLICANT CAN ASK
11:20:14PM THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FOR A MODIFICATION OF THE SITE PLAN
11:20:17PM THAT COULD ALMOST NEGATE THESE REDUCTIONS UNDER SECTION
11:20:22PM 27-138-7 ALLOWS THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR TO APPROVE
11:20:27PM NON-SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THE SITE PLAN, AND THAT WOULDN'T
11:20:30PM COME BACK IN FRONT OF YOU.
11:20:32PM ONE OF THOSE IS THAT THEY CAN INCREASE UP TO TWO STORIES.
11:20:35PM SO YOU HAVE A 29-FLOOR BUILDING THAT WAS REJECTED LAST YEAR,
11:20:40PM AND IT COULD STILL BECOME A 28-STORY BUILDING.
11:20:44PM ON THE OTHER HAND, THE SURROUNDING AREA HAS NOT
11:20:48PM SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED SINCE LAST MAY.
11:20:51PM WHEN THE COUNCIL FOUND THIS PROPOSAL INCOMPATIBLE.
11:20:55PM THE APPLICATION -- THE APPLICANT HAS LISTED EIGHT BUILDINGS
11:20:59PM WITHIN A 0.6-MILE RADIUS, BUT NONE OF THOSE WERE ACTUALLY
11:21:04PM APPROVED AFTER MAY 11, 2023.
11:21:06PM SO WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT WHEN YOU DECIDED LAST YEAR THAT
11:21:10PM IT WAS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA, NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
11:21:14PM IT'S STILL INCOMPATIBLE.
11:21:16PM AND THE SITE PLANS FROM LAST MAY AND THE ONE FOR TODAY
11:21:20PM ACTUALLY INCLUDE IDENTICAL ADJACENT PARCEL DATA TABLES WHICH
11:21:24PM NOTABLY MOSTLY INCLUDES INSTITUTIONAL AND SINGLE-FAMILY
11:21:28PM USES.
11:21:28PM THE APPLICANT HAS SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT ALTURA AS A PRIME
11:21:33PM EXAMPLE OF SIZE AND CHARACTER APPROPRIATE AND COMPATIBLE FOR
11:21:37PM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, AND ALTURA APPRECIATES BEING A PRIME
11:21:42PM EXAMPLE, BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY SITUATED ON BAYSHORE
11:21:44PM BOULEVARD.
11:21:46PM AND IT'S ORIENTED TO THE LEE ROY SELMON EXPRESSWAY AND CMU
11:21:51PM 35 MIXED USE DISTRICT.
11:21:53PM IN COMPARISON, THE RELATED GROUP'S PROJECT IS DISTINCT
11:21:56PM BECAUSE IT IS IN A CLUSTER OF EXISTING PUBLIC AND
11:22:01PM QUASI-PUBLIC LAND USES ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
11:22:04PM UNUSUAL AND DISTINCT EXAMPLE, A LITTLE ENCLAVE WITHIN
11:22:10PM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD ITSELF.
11:22:12PM THERE ARE ADDITIONAL INCONSISTENCIES IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
11:22:17PM PLAN WHICH ARE INCLUDED IN A LETTER I HAD SUBMITTED AND I'LL
11:22:20PM PROVIDE COPIES IN THE RECORD AS WELL.
11:22:22PM AMONG THOSE IS I'D LIKE TO CALL OUT LAND USE POLICY 9.3.8
11:22:28PM REGARDING IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING AREA.
11:22:31PM ALTURA'S FUTURE RESIDENTS HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IMPACTS ON
11:22:34PM TRAFFIC TO THE SURROUNDING STREETS.
11:22:37PM PUBLIC TRANSIT IS REALLY NOT A VIABLE OPTION IN THIS AREA IN
11:22:40PM THE FUTURE.
11:22:41PM AND THERE'S ALSO LIMITED INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED
11:22:44PM ABOUT IMPACTS FROM DELIVERY TRUCKS, SERVICE STAFF AND
11:22:49PM GARBAGE TRUCKS ON-SITE.
11:22:50PM THE LOADING ZONE EMPTIES ON TO YSABELLA AND LITTLE CLEARANCE
11:23:01PM FOR TURNS.
11:23:01PM THIS WILL BE A LONG NIGHT AND HEARING A LOT OF TESTIMONY.
11:23:04PM AS YOU LISTEN, YOU NEED TO DECIDE WHETHER THE APPLICANT HAS
11:23:07PM MET THE BURDEN WITH COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
11:23:09PM UNDER 27-136 AMONG OTHERS.
11:23:12PM I'M PROVIDING YOU WITH A CHEAT SHEET WHICH HAS A SUGGESTED
11:23:18PM MOTION TO DENY PLUS SECTIONS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED UNDER
11:23:24PM 27-136 AND ALSO THE WAIVERS AND -- AS WELL AS SECTIONS OF
11:23:33PM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT ARE INCONSISTENT.
11:23:35PM SO I WOULD LIKE TO ENTER THAT INTO THE RECORD WHEN I'M
11:23:38PM FINISHED.
11:23:39PM TO GO BACK TO COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, GENERALIZED
11:23:46PM STATEMENTS EVEN FROM EXPERTS ARE NOT COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
11:23:50PM EVIDENCE.
11:23:51PM NOW, ON THE OTHER HAND, IT MIGHT SEEM EASY TO DISMISS THE
11:23:56PM CREDIBILITY OF LAYPERSON TESTIMONY.
11:23:58PM HOWEVER, FLORIDA LAW CONSIDERS AS COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
11:24:02PM EVIDENCE THAT WHEN THE PUBLIC IS PRESENTING ACTUAL AND
11:24:05PM SPECIFIC FACTS THAT ARE RELEVANT, THEN THAT IS COMPETENT
11:24:11PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
11:24:12PM ON TOP OF THAT, TESTIMONY ON SUBJECTIVE MATTERS THAT DO NOT
11:24:15PM REQUIRE EXPERTISE SUCH AS THE DEVELOPMENT'S IMPACT ON THE
11:24:19PM AREA'S NATURAL BEAUTY, THAT IS ALSO COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
11:24:23PM EVIDENCE.
11:24:23PM SO YOU WILL HEAR THAT DIRECTLY TONIGHT.
11:24:26PM IF YOU RECEIVED GENERALIZED STATEMENTS OF SUPPORT, KNOW THAT
11:24:32PM THAT, IF IT'S JUST A GENERALIZED STATEMENT THAT SHOULD BE
11:24:35PM DISREGARDED.
11:24:36PM A FEW FINAL THOUGHTS ON SOME OF THE LEGAL ISSUES AND
11:24:41PM PROCEDURAL FLAWS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO FULL DETAIL
11:24:46PM ON IT, BUT WE WOULD DISPUTE THE FACT THAT THE WAIVERS RUN
11:24:50PM WITH THE LAND, EVEN THE ONE REGARDING THE COLLECTOR STREETS,
11:24:57PM BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SECTION FOR A PLANNED
11:25:01PM DEVELOPMENT, IT ACTUALLY HAS TO COMPLY, IF IT IS A
11:25:08PM SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, THEN THE REZONING PROCESS IS RESET.
11:25:11PM AND IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THE FULL ANALYSIS.
11:25:16PM WE ALSO DISPUTE THAT THIS SHOULD EVEN BE IN FRONT OF YOU.
11:25:20PM I DESCRIBED THIS MORE IN THE LETTER.
11:25:23PM FINALLY, THE APPLICANT'S CONTENTION THAT A REFUSAL TO ALLOW
11:25:27PM THIS PROPERTY TO BE REZONED TONIGHT IS SOME KIND OF TAKING.
11:25:35PM REVERSE SPOT ZONING, BUT ACTUALLY A ZONING ORDINANCE WHICH
11:25:39PM DENIES AN OWNER THE MAXIMUM PROFITABLE USE OF THEIR LAND IS
11:25:43PM NOT UNCONSTITUTIONALLY CONFISCATORY.
11:25:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:25:47PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:25:48PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE FOR THE RECORD THE SUGGESTED
11:25:53PM MOTION TO DENY AND ALSO COPIES OF THE LETTER WHICH HAVE
11:25:55PM ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED.
11:25:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:25:57PM PLEASE GIVE IT TO THE ATTORNEY AND HE'LL SUBMIT IT TO THE
11:26:01PM RECORD.
11:26:02PM MR. CREMER, DO YOU WISH -- DO YOU WANT TO SEE -- WE GO TO
11:26:15PM PUBLIC COMMENT AND LOOK HOW MUCH THERE IS.
11:26:18PM WITH SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS.
11:26:21PM WE'RE GOING TO START THE PUBLIC COMMENT OR CONTINUE THE
11:26:31PM PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:26:32PM FIRST IS ROCHELLE WALK.
11:26:35PM MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:26:36PM >> ROCHELLE FREEDMAN WALK.
11:26:38PM I LIVE AT 371 CHANNELSIDE WALKWAY, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
11:26:43PM I AM A BOARD MEMBER AND A PAST PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA JCCs
11:26:49PM IN FEDERATION.
11:26:51PM I AM ALSO THE IMMEDIATE PAST CHAIR OF THE TOP JEWISH
11:26:55PM FOUNDATION AND I AM AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF CONGREGATION RODEPH
11:27:00PM SHOLOM.
11:27:00PM FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU, OUR MAYOR, OUR
11:27:06PM POLICE, OUR FIRE AND SERVICE PROVIDERS FOR YOUR CONTINUED
11:27:12PM LEADERSHIP IN PROTECTING OUR CITY AND IN PROTECTING OUR
11:27:16PM JEWISH COMMUNITY AND PROTECTING OUR JEWISH INSTITUTIONS.
11:27:21PM THIS HAS BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT YEAR FOR OUR JEWISH COMMUNITY
11:27:25PM AS I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WITH THE RISE OF ANTI-SEMITISM
11:27:29PM AND THE HATE CRIMES THAT WE HAVE ENDURED.
11:27:31PM AND I THANK YOU AND THE CITY FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO TO MAKE
11:27:36PM SURE WE ARE SAFE.
11:27:37PM I'M HERE TODAY SPECIFICALLY TO DISCUSS THE LONG-TERM
11:27:42PM PROTECTION OF THE BUSINESS OF CONGREGATION RODEPH SHOLOM.
11:27:46PM WE HEARD ABOUT THE BUSINESS THAT'S NEXT DOOR BAYSHORE
11:27:51PM GARDENS.
11:27:52PM I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT RODEPH SHOLOM, YES, WE ARE A
11:27:56PM CONGREGATION.
11:27:57PM WE'RE ALSO A BUSINESS.
11:27:58PM WE ARE IN THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION,
11:28:01PM RELIGIOUS SERVICE TO OUR JEWISH COMMUNITY.
11:28:04PM AND WE JUST CELEBRATED, AS YOU HEARD, OUR 120th
11:28:08PM ANNIVERSARY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:28:09PM THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF ECONOMIC STUDIES THAT HAVE SHOWN
11:28:14PM A DECLINE IN PHILANTHROPIC GIVING ALL TO CHARITABLE
11:28:18PM ORGANIZATIONS TO CHURCHES, SYNAGOGUES, AND OTHER FAITH-BASED
11:28:25PM AND OTHER TYPES OF WE CALL IT SADAKA, BUT OTHER TYPES OF
11:28:30PM ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE CHARITABLE SERVICES.
11:28:33PM THIS IS TRUE ESPECIALLY SINCE THE YEAR 2000.
11:28:38PM FOR CONGREGATION RODEPH SHOLOM, THAT MEANS THAT OUR AGING
11:28:42PM BUILDING AND OUR ABILITY TO SUPPORT QUALITY PROGRAMMING TO
11:28:48PM CONTINUE AND BRING IN QUALITY LEADERSHIP TO OUR PULPIT WILL
11:28:53PM ULTIMATELY BE BURDENED BY THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A BIGGER
11:28:57PM CHALLENGE RAISING MONEY.
11:28:58PM WE HAVE HAD A HUGE NEED TO INCREASE SECURITY AT OUR
11:29:02PM SYNAGOGUE.
11:29:02PM I GO EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT.
11:29:04PM EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT THERE ARE GUARDS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE
11:29:08PM OUTSIDE OUR BUILDING TO PROTECT US.
11:29:11PM FOR THESE REASONS, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IT
11:29:16PM MEANS TO OUR CONGREGATION.
11:29:18PM I KNOW THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT PARKING.
11:29:21PM IN REALITY, PARKING IS GOING TO BE A MUCH EASIER SITUATION.
11:29:28PM WE ARE OUT OF PROPERTY.
11:29:29PM THE GARDEN CLUB DOES NOT LET US PARK NEXT DOOR DURING OUR
11:29:33PM HOLY DAYS ANYMORE.
11:29:34PM I THINK THEY EVEN TOWED CARS RECENTLY.
11:29:37PM AND WE NEED MORE PARKING.
11:29:38PM THIS PROJECT GIVES US MORE PARKING.
11:29:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:29:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MS. WALK, DO YOU HAVE YOUR NUMBER WITH YOU.
11:29:47PM >> ONE, I PUT IT RIGHT HERE.
11:29:50PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, JUST A REMINDER FOR THOSE PEOPLE
11:29:52PM WHEN THEY COME UP AND THEIR NAME IS CALLED, IF THEY COULD
11:29:54PM PUT THE NUMBER IN THERE.
11:29:56PM THAT IS THE REQUEST.
11:29:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:29:58PM NEXT SPEAKER IS MICHELLE VATALARA.
11:30:02PM JUST DROP THE NUMBER IN THE BIN.
11:30:07PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:30:08PM >> MY NAME IS MICHELLE VATALARO, PAST PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA
11:30:12PM GARDEN CLUB AND MEMBER OF THE CURRENT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
11:30:14PM I'VE LISTENED TO THE PRESENTATION BY THE RELATED GROUP.
11:30:18PM WHAT I'M STILL WAITING FOR AND WHAT I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE
11:30:22PM TOLD US IS WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THIS PROJECT TO THE
11:30:26PM COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE?
11:30:27PM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE EVIDENCE OF
11:30:31PM PUBLIC VALUE ATTACHED TO CHANGING PD DESIGNATION.
11:30:35PM WE KNOW THAT THE 40 NEW OWNERS WHO CAN AFFORD THE MILLIONS
11:30:38PM TO BUY THESE UNITS WILL NOW HAVE A BAYSHORE VIEW.
11:30:41PM WE KNOW THAT THE SYNAGOGUE WILL GET FUNDING FOR MEMBERSHIP
11:30:47PM OUT OF THIS.
11:30:48PM WHAT DO THE REST OF US GET?
11:30:49PM WE HAVEN'T HEARD MENTION OF EVEN ONE WAY IN WHICH THIS
11:30:52PM EYESORE IS GOING TO BE A BENEFIT TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
11:30:55PM THIS COMMERCIAL-STYLE BUILDING IS NOT PART OF A BUSINESS
11:30:59PM CENTER AS IS ALTURA.
11:31:01PM IT PROVIDES NO PURPOSE SUCH AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SUCH AS
11:31:07PM THE PRESBYTERIAN APARTMENTS DO.
11:31:09PM IT MAKES NO EFFORT TO BLEND INTO THE SURROUNDING
11:31:12PM NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS COMPRISED OF LOW-RISE, TRADITIONAL
11:31:15PM HOMES, MANY OF WHICH ARE OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
11:31:18PM THIS BUILDING LOOKS LIKE IT WAS DESIGNED FOR MIAMI BEACH OR
11:31:22PM SOME OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:31:23PM THERE IS NO THOUGHT EVEN GIVEN TO A MINIMUM OF ARCHITECTURAL
11:31:28PM INTEREST.
11:31:28PM THERE ARE NO BENEFITS FOR THE COMMUNITY DESCRIBED EXCEPT FOR
11:31:34PM THE WEALTHY.
11:31:34PM SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR HARM.
11:31:37PM THE HARM TO TAMPA GARDEN CLUB IS REAL.
11:31:39PM WE ARE A NONPROFIT CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION THAT UTILIZES
11:31:43PM PROPERTY NOT ONLY TO PROTECT GREENSPACE IN TAMPA, BUT TO
11:31:47PM GENERATE FUNDS WHICH ARE GIVEN BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN
11:31:50PM VARIOUS WAYS.
11:31:51PM THIS MENACING TOWER IS ALREADY THREATENING OUR FUTURE
11:31:55PM BUSINESS AND RELOCATION OF OUR CLUB IS NOT AN OPTION.
11:31:58PM NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MIND BELIEVES THAT THIS PROJECT
11:32:03PM CONTAINS ENOUGH PARKING SPACES FOR THE RESIDENTS OR THE
11:32:06PM TEMPLE MEMBERS.
11:32:07PM RELATED AND THE SYNAGOGUE ARE ALREADY ASKING US TO PARK CARS
11:32:10PM AT THE GARDEN CLUB.
11:32:11PM THE SANCTUARY WAS BUILT UNDER THE TENURE OF MY PRESIDENCY.
11:32:16PM THEY HAVE ALWAYS NEEDED PARKING SPACES DURING THEIR
11:32:19PM CONSTRUCTION, AND THEY ARE STILL ASKING US FOR SPACES.
11:32:22PM HISTORICALLY THE GARDEN CLUB HAS PROVIDED OVERFLOW PARKING
11:32:26PM FOR THE NEIGHBORS, BUT WE HAVE CLIENTS WHO RENT OUR BUSINESS
11:32:30PM AND WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO BE WORKING AS A FULL-TIME COMMUNITY
11:32:35PM PARKING LOT BECAUSE NO OTHER PUBLIC PARKING HAS BEEN MADE
11:32:39PM AVAILABLE BY THE CITY.
11:32:41PM OUR LOT DID NOT USED TO BE A SAND LOT.
11:32:44PM THE HEAVY USE OF IT HAS TURNED IT INTO A SANDPIT.
11:32:48PM THE TRUCKS THAT PARK IN OUR LOT BREAK OUR IRRIGATION PIPES.
11:32:51PM THEY DRIVE OVER OUR SHRUBS AND THEY LITTER US WITH TRASH.
11:32:55PM WE HAD PLANS TO RELANDSCAPE THREE YEARS AGO AND DEVELOP AN
11:33:00PM EDUCATIONAL GARDEN BUT THOSE PLANS HAVE BEEN PLACED ON HOLD.
11:33:03PM SO I ASK THAT CITY COUNCIL TAKE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK INTO
11:33:08PM THESE PROBLEMS PRIOR TO ADDING TO THEM.
11:33:10PM THERE ARE OTHER AREAS OF TAMPA WITH MORE SPACE FOR
11:33:13PM DEVELOPMENT, NOT EVERYONE CAN HAVE A BAYSHORE ADDRESS.
11:33:18PM AGAIN, TELL ME, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY AS A
11:33:21PM WHOLE?
11:33:21PM AND I RESENT THE COMMENT THAT THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB HAS
11:33:26PM ENGAGED IN ANTI-SEMITIC BEHAVIOR.
11:33:29PM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:33:29PM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
11:33:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:33:35PM ENOUGH.
11:33:35PM PERSON NUMBER 4 IS TIM EVERETT.
11:33:40PM PLEASE DROP YOUR NUMBER IN THE CONTAINER.
11:33:43PM >> THANK YOU.
11:33:44PM TIM EVERETT.
11:33:45PM I LIVE AT 2719 YSABELLA, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET
11:33:50PM FROM THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
11:33:51PM A COUPLE OF THINGS, NUMBER ONE, THANK YOU, MR. PRESSMAN, FOR
11:33:56PM USE OF THIS PHOTOGRAPH.
11:33:58PM AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE ALTURA, WHICH IS LOCATED RIGHT
11:34:02PM THERE.
11:34:02PM THIS IS THE PROPOSED NEW SITE HERE, AND THIS IS WHERE I LIVE
11:34:06PM RIGHT HERE.
11:34:07PM I LIVE IN A TWO-BEDROOM TOWN HOUSE.
11:34:11PM AND IF THIS NEW PROJECT GOES THROUGH, OUR TOWN HOUSE
11:34:15PM COMMUNITY THERE WILL BE VIRTUALLY BLOCKED FROM THE SUN.
11:34:18PM ALTURA IS TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS BLOCKING US FROM ANY
11:34:23PM SUNSHINE THERE.
11:34:23PM THE NEW PROJECT WILL BLOCK US FROM EAST.
11:34:27PM WE WON'T GET ANY SUNRISE AT ALL.
11:34:30PM IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY PROBLEMATIC JUST FROM A LIVING
11:34:33PM STANDPOINT.
11:34:33PM I HEARD ONE OF THE MEMBERS SAY I TRY TO PUT MYSELF IN THEIR
11:34:39PM SHOES IF I LIVE THERE.
11:34:41PM PUT YOURSELF IN MY SHOES.
11:34:42PM I'M LIVING THERE AND I'M GOING TO BE BLOCKED BY TWO GIANT
11:34:45PM HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS.
11:34:46PM THE OTHER THING IS GOING TO BE TRAFFIC.
11:34:49PM I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THERE'S NOT A TRAFFIC STUDY BEING
11:34:51PM DONE ON THIS.
11:34:52PM GIVEN THE FACT THAT ALTURA IS GOING TO HAVE 67 RESIDENCES
11:34:56PM AND THIS NEW PROJECT WILL HAVE, WHAT, 42, 44 RESIDENCES.
11:35:01PM THAT TRAFFIC COMING DOWN YSABELLA TO BAY TO BAY, RIGHT NOW,
11:35:06PM YOU CAN'T GET ONTO BAY TO BAY EASILY BECAUSE IT'S ALL BACKED
11:35:10PM UP AT MacDILL.
11:35:13PM SO I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST TRAFFIC STUDY NEEDS TO BE DONE
11:35:17PM TO SEE WHETHER THIS IS EVEN FEASIBLE FROM A TRAFFIC
11:35:19PM STANDPOINT.
11:35:20PM ALSO FROM AN EVACUATION STANDPOINT, DURING A STORM.
11:35:23PM I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR ALL OF US TO GET OUT
11:35:26PM OF THERE AT THAT TIME.
11:35:27PM THOSE ARE REALLY THE MAIN ISSUES I HAVE WITH THE PROJECT.
11:35:33PM I UNDERSTAND THE BUILDER HAS THE RIGHT TO BUILD, BUT I JUST
11:35:37PM THINK IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE
11:35:41PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND PARTICULARLY OUR TOWN HOUSE COMMUNITY AND
11:35:44PM THE TOWN HOUSE COMMUNITY ACROSS BARCELONA THERE.
11:35:47PM I'M OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD
11:35:50PM VOTE AGAINST IT.
11:35:51PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:35:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:35:53PM NEXT IS ADRIENNE VAN HEIST.
11:35:56PM PLEASE TAKE YOUR NUMBER AND DROP IT IN THE CONTAINER AND
11:36:03PM STATE YOUR NAME.
11:36:10PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:36:12PM I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO ME AND I'M HERE --
11:36:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
11:36:18PM >> I'M SORRY.
11:36:19PM MY NAME IS ADRIAN VAN HEIST.
11:36:22PM IN MY REMARKS, I PLAN TO FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE WHERE I LIVE,
11:36:37PM BAYSHORE PRESBYTERIAN APARTMENTS.
11:36:38PM WE ARE AT 2909 WEST BAYSHORE -- OR BARCELONA STREET.
11:36:42PM IT IS A SPECIAL COMMUNITY WHERE I LIVE.
11:36:46PM MANY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT I AM WITH TONIGHT LIVE THERE AS
11:36:49PM WELL.
11:36:50PM IT'S A SPECIAL COMMUNITY OF ABOUT 200 RESIDENTS.
11:36:56PM AND THEY COME FROM ALL PARTS OF THE UNITED STATES.
11:37:00PM AND THEY HAVE MANY DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS -- TEACHERS, OFFICE
11:37:04PM WORKERS, LABORERS, SOME HAVE WORKED IN INDUSTRY IN
11:37:09PM MANUFACTURING AND THE LIST CAN GO ON AND ON.
11:37:13PM THERE IS A LOT OF VARIETY IN THAT COMMUNITY WHERE WE LIVE.
11:37:19PM THERE'S A LOT OF VARIETY BUT ONE THING WE HAVE IN COMMON FOR
11:37:25PM THE MAJORITY, WE'RE ON THE OLDER SIDE.
11:37:28PM WITH MOST OF US BEING WELL OVER 70 AND SO WE'RE IN THE
11:37:36PM TWILIGHT YEARS OF OUR LIFE.
11:37:39PM SOME HAVE LIVED IN OUR COMMUNITY AT BAYSHORE PRESBYTERIAN
11:37:45PM FOR 20 YEARS.
11:37:47PM IN OUR ADVANCING YEARS, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS THAT COME WITH
11:37:53PM THAT.
11:37:53PM WE MAY DRIVE LESS, BUT WE MAY WALK MORE.
11:37:59PM OUR WALKING FOR EXERCISE FOR OURSELVES AND OUR PETS TAKES US
11:38:04PM AROUND OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR PETS KNOW EXACTLY
11:38:09PM WHERE ALL THE FIRE HYDRANTS ARE.
11:38:11PM THE POINT THAT I AM TRYING TO MAKE IS THIS.
11:38:17PM THAT IN OUR RESIDENCE AND IN OUR CLOSE SURROUNDINGS, WE HAVE
11:38:26PM A SITUATION THAT AFFECTS THE QUALITY OF OUR LIVES.
11:38:31PM AND THERE IS LITTLE THAT CAN SURPASS THE BEAUTY OF A SUNRISE
11:38:39PM AS THE BEAMS OF LIGHT THAT SHIMMER ACROSS THE BAY OBSERVED
11:38:43PM BY MANY FROM THEIR APARTMENT WINDOWS.
11:38:46PM YES, THEY ARE GOING TO BE LOSING THAT.
11:38:52PM AND SO THIS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE ARE THE ELDERLY, AND
11:38:56PM I HAVE HEARD IT SAID THAT A COMMUNITY IS JUDGED BY THE WAY
11:39:03PM IT TREATS ITS ELDERS.
11:39:08PM YOU ARE OUR CITY COUNCIL.
11:39:10PM WILL TAMPA BE KNOWN THAT IT TREATS ITS SENIOR CITIZENS WELL?
11:39:16PM THAT IS OUR QUESTION.
11:39:18PM THANK YOU.
11:39:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:39:19PM NEXT IS SIDEL VOGEL.
11:39:23PM YES, MA'AM.
11:39:24PM PLEASE PUT YOUR NUMBER IN THE BASKET AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:39:29PM >> MY NAME IS SIDEL ENVOGEL.
11:39:34PM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT.
11:39:36PM SINCE I LIVE AT AN OVER 65 BUILDING ON BAYSHORE OR NEAR
11:39:46PM BAYSHORE, I WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
11:39:52PM WE HAVE AMBULANCES.
11:39:54PM WE HAVE FIRE TRUCKS, AND WE HAVE POLICE COMING TO OUR
11:39:58PM BUILDING MORE THAN ONCE A DAY.
11:40:00PM NOW, IF WE HAD THIS BIG BUILDING, WE'D NEVER -- WE'D HAVE A
11:40:05PM LOT OF DEAD PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET THERE IN TIME.
11:40:09PM IT'S HARD ENOUGH TO GET INTO OUR BUILDING BECAUSE WE HAVE
11:40:14PM ONLY TWO ELEVATORS, NONE OF WHICH IS FREIGHT.
11:40:18PM SO IF THE FREIGHT ELEVATOR IS USED, WE HAVE ONE ELEVATOR.
11:40:22PM HEALTH IS AT AN ESSENCE.
11:40:28PM I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF TAMPA FOR SOMETHING LIKE 65 YEARS.
11:40:36PM I'VE SEEN TAMPA GROW.
11:40:38PM SOMETIMES TO THE BETTERMENT AND SOMETIMES NOT.
11:40:41PM BUT IN OUR INSTANCE, WE HAVE NO PLACE TO PUT AMBULANCES OR
11:40:47PM GET INTO THE PARKING LOT.
11:40:51PM IF YOU FIGURE IT OUT WHEN WE HAVE GASPARILLA OF 500,000
11:40:54PM PEOPLE COMING, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT THESE CARS?
11:41:00PM THEY CAN'T COME INTO OUR SPOT, BUT THEY TRY.
11:41:04PM THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT AVENUES, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT
11:41:09PM ARE HAPPENING ON THIS PARTICULAR STREET.
11:41:12PM I WOULD VOTE NO FOR THIS.
11:41:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:41:17PM >> THANK YOU.
11:41:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:41:19PM NEXT IS MARIA GRASSIANO.
11:41:22PM YES, MA'AM.
11:41:27PM >> THANK YOU.
11:41:28PM MY NAME IS MARIA GRAZIANO, I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF BAYSHORE
11:41:32PM PRESBYTERIAN SENIOR APARTMENTS.
11:41:34PM YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SAYING JUST PRESBYTERIAN APARTMENTS.
11:41:37PM IT'S SENIOR APARTMENTS.
11:41:38PM SECONDLY, I VERY MUCH RESENT BEING TOLD ANTI-SEMITIC AS A
11:41:45PM NEIGHBOR, WHICH I AM NOT.
11:41:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MA'AM, PLEASE FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION TO
11:41:48PM US.
11:41:53PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, STOP THE TIME.
11:41:55PM MA'AM, I'M GOING TO MAKE THIS COMMENT GENERALLY TO EVERYBODY
11:42:00PM BUT CERTAINLY DOES APPLY IN THIS CASE.
11:42:02PM PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND TO THIS
11:42:07PM BODY HERE AND PLEASE FACE FORWARD SO THAT THE MIKE CAN PICK
11:42:11PM UP YOUR VOICE SO IT CAN BE RECORDED AND BROADCAST.
11:42:14PM >> CAN I PROJECT.
11:42:15PM I CAN PROJECT.
11:42:17PM I AM 81 YEARS OLD AND LOVING MY LIFE AT BAYSHORE
11:42:21PM PRESBYTERIAN SENIOR APARTMENTS.
11:42:22PM I DECIDED BACK IN 1992 THAT WHEN I GOT OLD ENOUGH I WOULD
11:42:27PM MOVE THERE.
11:42:28PM AND I HAVE FULFILLED THAT WISH.
11:42:31PM NOW BECAUSE OF ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON, WE
11:42:37PM HAVE A PROBLEM.
11:42:38PM YSABELLA IS A VERY NARROW TWO-LANE STREET.
11:42:42PM YOU HAVE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES NOW WITH ALTURA.
11:42:49PM BUT THEY DON'T COME ALL THE WAY TO OUR BUILDING.
11:42:51PM BUT WITH THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION THEY WOULD BE THERE AT OUR
11:42:55PM BUILDING.
11:42:55PM WE WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT TO THE ROADS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF
11:42:59PM ANYONE HAS CONSIDERED IT.
11:43:01PM I KNOW THERE HASN'T BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY.
11:43:03PM SECONDLY, I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS STOPPED TO SEE WHAT THE
11:43:08PM IMPACT IS SO THE ACTUAL ROADBED AND THE ROAD MATERIALS.
11:43:13PM YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE HEAVY EQUIPMENT.
11:43:15PM YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TRACTOR TRAILERS DELIVERING.
11:43:19PM WHEN THEY START LAYING FOUNDATIONS OR PUTTING IN THE PILLARS
11:43:22PM AND CAISSONS, THEY ARE GOING TO BE POUNDING, AND I DON'T
11:43:26PM KNOW IF ANY OF YOU HAVE EVER LIVED WHEN THEY ARE POUNDING
11:43:30PM FOR HOURS DAY AFTER DAY, MONTHS AT A TIME.
11:43:34PM I'M SURE IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE FOUR PILLARS.
11:43:37PM IT'S GOING TO BE MUCH MORE THAN THAT FOR THE SIZE OF THAT
11:43:40PM BUILDING.
11:43:41PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN CONSIDERED.
11:43:43PM AND THE DAMAGE THAT THAT WILL DO, NOT JUST TO DISTURBING OUR
11:43:48PM PIECE AND QUIET AND QUALITY OF LIFE AS RESIDENTS OF THE
11:43:53PM CITY, FORGET THAT WE'RE ELDERLY, BUT THE FACT THAT IT'S
11:43:58PM GOING TO TOTALLY DISTURB OUR WAY OF LIFE, THAT IS DISTURBING
11:44:02PM AND IMPACTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS PART OF THE CODE.
11:44:06PM THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED.
11:44:09PM MY SECOND CONCERN IS SEWER AND WATER.
11:44:14PM ANYBODY THAT'S LIVED ON BAYSHORE KNOWS THAT IS NOT UP TO
11:44:18PM DATE FOR THE KIND OF QUANTITY OF BUILDINGS AND RESIDENCES
11:44:21PM THAT ARE GOING IN, WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING IN TOWERS WITH THAT
11:44:26PM MANY RESIDENTS OR PEOPLE MOVING IN, THAT'S AN IMPACT ON THE
11:44:30PM SEWER -- OKAY, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
11:44:33PM MY LAST CONCERN WAS EVACUATION, WHICH HAS BEEN COMMENTED ON,
11:44:37PM BECAUSE WE HAVE A MANDATORY EVACUATION IN THAT AREA.
11:44:41PM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
11:44:42PM I HOPE YOU WILL CONSIDER ALL THE THOUGHTS THAT WE HAVE GIVEN
11:44:46PM TO YOU TODAY.
11:44:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:44:48PM NEXT UP IS PAMELA CARPENTER.
11:44:50PM IS THERE A PAMELA CARPENTER HERE?
11:44:55PM >> I'M 9.
11:44:57PM DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER 8?
11:44:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'RE NUMBER 9.
11:45:01PM WE'RE AT NUMBER 9, CHARLES GAUTHIER WAS NUMBER 8.
11:45:05PM SO COME ON UP.
11:45:06PM PLEASE PUT THE NUMBER IN THE BUCKET.
11:45:12PM >> I HAVE A COPY OF MY PRESENTATION.
11:45:14PM I HAVE A LOT OF PICTURES.
11:45:25PM IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU CAN READ THE WORDS IF I DON'T GET
11:45:28PM TO ALL OF THEM.
11:45:30PM PAMELA CARPENTER, 24 YEARS ON YSABELLA, MY EXPERT TESTIMONY
11:45:34PM IS ONLY WHAT I KNOW FROM LIVING ON THE STREET.
11:45:36PM I DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET TO COMPARE NOTES WITH A LOT OF THE
11:45:39PM SPEAKERS, BUT I HAVE COME TO SOME OF THE SAME CONCLUSIONS.
11:45:43PM I WANT TO START WITH THE RENDERING OF THE PROSPECTIVE
11:45:50PM BUILDING.
11:45:50PM THIS IS YSABELLA, EVEN THOUGH WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT
11:45:54PM BAYSHORE, THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE MASSIVE BUILDING IS ON
11:45:59PM YSABELLA.
11:46:00PM KEEP YOUR EYE ON THIS LITTLE GREEN AREA HERE.
11:46:02PM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND SOME OF THE SPEAKERS THAT YOU
11:46:06PM ALREADY HEARD.
11:46:07PM SO THAT VIEW IS GOING SOUTH.
11:46:12PM I ASK YOU TO TURN AROUND IN THAT SAME GRASSY AREA AND LOOK
11:46:17PM NORTH.
11:46:18PM AND THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL SEE.
11:46:19PM YOU WILL SEE YSABELLA -- YOU CAN'T SEE EVEN THE CENTER LINE
11:46:24PM THERE.
11:46:24PM THERE'S NO SIDEWALK ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, WHICH WOULD BE
11:46:27PM THE WEST SIDE.
11:46:27PM YOU THEN COME ONTO HOMES THAT LOOK LIKE THEY SHOULD BE IN
11:46:31PM CHARLESTON OR SAVANNAH.
11:46:33PM YOU THEN COME DOWN TO THE CORNER OF PALM, 200 YARDS AWAY ARE
11:46:38PM HOMES THAT ARE A HUNDRED YEARS OLD.
11:46:40PM FURTHER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU WILL SEE SINGLE-FAMILY
11:46:43PM HOMES AND RESIDENCES.
11:46:45PM YES, WE HAVE TOWNHOMES.
11:46:46PM YES, WE HAVE SOME APARTMENTS, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF
11:46:49PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
11:46:49PM NOT AS MANY AS WE USED TO.
11:46:51PM THE STREET, MOODY ITSELF HAS LOST SIX OF ITS BUNGALOWS.
11:46:56PM IT'S ONLY A TWO-BLOCK AREA.
11:46:58PM THEY ARE NOW DUPLEXES.
11:47:00PM YOU'VE HAD SOME CONCERNS FROM SEVERAL OF US ABOUT OUR
11:47:04PM STREETS.
11:47:04PM THIS IS A VIEW, NOW I'M LOOKING SOUTH AGAIN ON YSABELLA.
11:47:09PM THE GARDEN CLUB IS BASICALLY IN THIS AREA, AND THE PICTURE
11:47:14PM ON THE RIGHT, THE PRESBYTERIAN TOWER IS ON THE RIGHT.
11:47:17PM THEY HAVE NO SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE PRESBYTERIAN TOWER
11:47:19PM TODAY.
11:47:20PM I DON'T KNOW WHY.
11:47:21PM THEY JUST NEVER GOT ONE.
11:47:22PM SO IN THE FIRST REPORT OVER A YEAR AGO, BECAUSE THIS IS THE
11:47:27PM THIRD TIME WE'VE BEEN HERE IN JUST A YEAR, WHICH AMAZING,
11:47:31PM THEY SAID THERE WERE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.
11:47:33PM THERE ARE NOT SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES.
11:47:36PM DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM WHERE THIS IS BEING PROPOSED THERE IS
11:47:39PM NO SIDEWALK.
11:47:40PM SO I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIT OF A PROBLEM IN THE
11:47:42PM NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN CONSTRUCTION WOULD START AS TO HOW WE
11:47:45PM WOULD ACTUALLY GET UP AND DOWN OUR STREET.
11:47:49PM AGAIN, AND THERE HAS BEEN A VERY GENEROUS OFFER FROM RELATED
11:47:52PM TO DO PAVING, AND I THINK THAT'S GREAT, BUT THE PROJECT
11:47:56PM WOULDN'T START UNTIL 2026.
11:47:58PM THAT MEANS THE PAVING OF THE STREET WOULDN'T HAPPEN UNTIL
11:48:01PM 2029.
11:48:02PM I DID MY OWN ANALYSIS ON THE TOWERS, AND I JUST WANT YOU TO
11:48:05PM LOOK AT ONE NUMBER.
11:48:06PM ON THE VACANT LOTS OF THE SIX BUILDING, SOMEONE ELSE
11:48:10PM MENTIONED THE SIX TOWERS, SEVEN WOULD BE THE RELATED TOWER
11:48:14PM FOR THE SYNAGOGUE.
11:48:16PM THERE WERE TWO HOMES IN THAT AREA.
11:48:19PM AS A RESULT OF THESE BUILDINGS ONLY, NOT EVERYTHING ELSE ON
11:48:22PM BAYSHORE, JUST THESE SIX BUILDINGS, THE NET INCREASE IN
11:48:26PM RESIDENCES IS 208.
11:48:28PM I'M SORRY THE TRANSPORTATION GENTLEMAN IS NOT HERE, BUT I DO
11:48:31PM BELIEVE IT NEEDS A MOBILITY STUDY BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF
11:48:35PM ADDITIONAL UNITS.
11:48:37PM YOU HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PICTURES.
11:48:38PM MY CONCLUSION IS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO SEE THE SYNAGOGUE
11:48:42PM STAY ON BAYSHORE.
11:48:43PM GARDEN CLUB TO THRIVE AND WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN R 35,
11:48:48PM EIGHT STORY MEDIUM DENSITY BUILDING PROPOSED.
11:48:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:48:52PM NEXT SPEAKER IS LLOYD STERN.
11:48:53PM HE ALREADY SPOKE.
11:48:56PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:48:57PM DONELDA GALLAGLY.
11:49:06PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND DROP THE NUMBER
11:49:08PM THERE.
11:49:09PM >> MY NAME IS DONELDA GALLAGLY.
11:49:14PM I LIVE 2542 WEST PALM DRIVE.
11:49:18PM THIS IS A SMALL CONDO BUILDING JUST THREE STORIES TALL WITH
11:49:21PM ONLY EIGHT UNITS IN IT AND IT BACKS DIRECTLY ON TO FRED BALL
11:49:25PM PARK.
11:49:26PM I'M A CITIZEN AND A RESIDENT OF THE AREA THAT WILL BE
11:49:29PM NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY THE BUILDING OF THE RELATED PROJECT
11:49:34PM ON THE SYNAGOGUE PROPERTY.
11:49:37PM WE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE ENDURED CONTINUOUS CONDO
11:49:43PM CONSTRUCTION FOR THE LAST MANY YEARS.
11:49:47PM THE DISRUPTIONS THE BUILDING OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE
11:49:51PM CAUSED US INCLUDE WE CAN'T GET ON TO BAY TO BAY FROM
11:49:56PM YSABELLA OR OFF BAY TO BAY TO YSABELLA WITHOUT LONG WAITS
11:50:00PM FOR AN OPENING IN THE TRAFFIC.
11:50:03PM THE STRETCH OF BAY TO BAY FROM BAYSHORE TO MacDILL HAS A
11:50:09PM CONGESTED TRAFFIC PATTERN THAT I BELIEVE VERGES ON UNSAFE.
11:50:15PM YSABELLA IS TORN UP AND POTHOLED TO SOMETHING WORSE THAN A
11:50:20PM THIRD-WORLD COUNTRY.
11:50:21PM SINCE THERE'S NO CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK, WALKING IS A
11:50:25PM CHALLENGE, IF NOT UNSAFE.
11:50:27PM CONSTRUCTION CREWS ARBITRARILY STOP TRAFFIC ON YSABELLA AND
11:50:34PM CAUSE UNPREDICTABLE DELAYS OF VARYING LENGTH SO THAT THEIR
11:50:39PM GIANT TRUCKS, CRANES, AND MACHINES CAN GET IN AND OUT OF
11:50:43PM THEIR SITES.
11:50:46PM THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS TO THIS PROJECT THAT YOU'VE HEARD OR
11:50:50PM THAT YOU WILL HEAR TONIGHT THAT I DISAGREE WITH.
11:50:54PM AS A GROUP, WE ARE WELL INFORMED AND WELL ORGANIZED.
11:50:59PM WE'RE AWARE THAT WHATEVER FORM THE CURRENT RELATED PROJECT
11:51:04PM PLAN HAS, IT WILL EXCEED IT, JUST AS IT HAS DONE WITH THE
11:51:10PM RITZ-CARLTON PROJECT.
11:51:12PM IN CLOSING, LET ME SHARE WITH YOU THAT I AM AN INFLUENCER.
11:51:20PM WHOMEVER OF YOU VOTES IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT WILL
11:51:25PM EXPERIENCE ME SPREADING THE WORD TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS THAT
11:51:30PM YOUR PRIORITIES ARE INCREASING THE CITY TAX BASE, NULLIFYING
11:51:37PM DEVELOPERS WANTING TO COME TO OUR AREA AND IGNORING THE
11:51:41PM COMPREHENSIVE CITY PLAN AND CITY CODE.
11:51:43PM IF YOU SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, I'LL TELL THEM THAT YOUR
11:51:48PM PRIORITIES ARE NOT LISTENING TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND
11:51:51PM REPRESENTING THE DEMONSTRATED WISHES OF NEIGHBORHOOD
11:51:54PM RESIDENTS.
11:51:55PM TO VOTE FOR THIS PROJECT IS IRRESPONSIBLE, AND YOU WOULD NOT
11:52:00PM BE DOING THE JOB THAT YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED TO DO.
11:52:06PM PLEASE, I BEG YOU, VOTE NO TO THIS PROJECT.
11:52:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:52:11PM NEXT UP IS PAULA PERRY, NUMBER 12.
11:52:13PM COME ON DOWN.
11:52:21PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:52:21PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:52:22PM >> PAULA PERRY.
11:52:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PUT YOUR NUMBER IN THE BIN.
11:52:29PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:52:38PM >> GOOD EVENING.
11:52:39PM RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
11:52:41PM I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR NEARLY 40 YEARS.
11:52:45PM I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY THANK RELATED.
11:52:48PM THEY BROUGHT A SENSE OF UNITY TO OUR COMMUNITY.
11:52:51PM ONCE AGAIN, WE ALL AGREE THIS BUILDING DOES NOT FIT.
11:52:54PM IT DOESN'T WORK.
11:52:54PM IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:52:57PM I HAVE SEVEN RESOLUTIONS IN OPPOSITION FROM NEIGHBORHOODS
11:53:00PM AND COMMUNITY GROUPS.
11:53:02PM THANKFULLY THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB, HISTORIC HYDE PARK, BEACH
11:53:05PM PARK WOMAN'S CLUB, HARBOUR ISLAND COMMUNITY SERVICES
11:53:08PM ASSOCIATION, BEACH PARK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, SOUTH
11:53:13PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OF HARBOUR ISLAND AND BAYSHORE TOWN
11:53:16PM HOUSE OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
11:53:17PM AND WE HAVE OVER 1800 RESIDENTS THAT HAVE SIGNED A PETITION
11:53:24PM AND E-MAILED LETTERS IN OPPOSITION TO IT.
11:53:27PM IT JUST SHOWS IT'S A BROADER SUPPORT AND THAT WE ARE OPPOSED
11:53:31PM TO IT.
11:53:33PM THE PROJECT'S TOTAL HEIGHT IS 349 FEET.
11:53:38PM I REACHED OUT, IT WAS NOT ON THE SITE PLAN.
11:53:42PM I ASKED LaCHONE DOCK AND SHE E-MAILED ME LATE LAST WEEK,
11:53:46PM SO IT'S 349 FEET.
11:53:49PM I'LL SHARE THE E-MAIL.
11:53:50PM IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED PD FOR PLACE OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY WITH
11:53:54PM FUTURE LAND USE OF R 35.
11:53:55PM IT'S NOT ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
11:53:58PM IT'S IN A FEMA FLOOD ZONE WITH COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
11:54:03PM THEY REQUEST BUILDING THIS IMPOSINGLY TALL TOWER 26 STORIES,
11:54:07PM 42 UNITS ON 1.43 ACRES WITH MORE THAN 275,000 SQUARE FEET OF
11:54:13PM LIVING SPACE.
11:54:14PM IN ADDITION, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS PERMISSION TO MAKE
11:54:17PM IMPROVEMENTS TO BARCELONA AND YSABELLA STREETS.
11:54:20PM THIS COULD PROVE DETRIMENTAL TO THE ENTIRE BAYSHORE GARDENS
11:54:24PM NEIGHBORHOOD WHICH COULD RESULT IN A LOSS OF ACCESS TO THE
11:54:27PM IMPORTANT CITY STREETS WHILE THE PROJECTS ARE STAGED FOR THE
11:54:29PM DURATION OF CONSTRUCTION.
11:54:31PM APPROVING THIS APPLICATION GRANTS THE APPLICANT LEGAL
11:54:34PM ENTITLEMENTS.
11:54:35PM IN ADDITION TO ENTITLEMENTS, ANY CHANGES TO THE SITE PLANS
11:54:38PM CONSIDERED NON-SUBSTANTIAL CAN BE APPROVED BY THE CITY OF
11:54:40PM TAMPA ADMINISTRATOR ALONE.
11:54:42PM THIS ACTUALLY OCCURRED BETWEEN THE FIRST AND SECOND HEARINGS
11:54:45PM FOR THE RELATED RITZ TOWER PROJECTS ON SANTIAGO, WHICH
11:54:48PM INCLUDED BUT WAS NOT LIMITED TO AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT,
11:54:51PM NUMBER OF UNITS, REDUCTION OF SETBACKS AND REDUCTION OF
11:54:54PM GRAND TREES AND GREENSPACE.
11:54:56PM THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF PARKING.
11:54:58PM THE RODEPH SHOLOM SYNAGOGUE APPLIED FOR A PD CHANGE,
11:55:02PM REZONING AND TWO DESIGN EXCEPTIONS IN 2015 AND 2016 FOR THE
11:55:05PM BARCELONA PARCEL THAT HAD SERVED AS PARKING FOR THE
11:55:08PM CONGREGATION.
11:55:09PM THEY RECEIVED 30 SPACE PARKING WAIVER AND WE, THE GARDEN
11:55:14PM CLUB, HAVE TRIED TO HELP ALLEVIATE THE SHORTAGE OF PARKING
11:55:18PM BY GRANTING THEM FREE PARKING DURING EARLY MORNING SERVICES,
11:55:22PM HIGH HOLY DAYS, PRESCHOOL EVENTS, FUNERALS, OTHER
11:55:25PM GATHERINGS.
11:55:26PM SO LONG AS IT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH THE RENTAL OF OUR
11:55:30PM VENUE AND PARKING.
11:55:31PM ALLOWING THIS TO YOU WE'RE DEVASTATE OUR VENUE AND OUR TAMPA
11:55:34PM GARDEN CLUB HAS WORKED SO HARD TO BUILD.
11:55:37PM I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU TO DENY THIS APPLICATION.
11:55:39PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR LATE EVENING.
11:55:41PM THANK YOU.
11:55:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:55:42PM AS LONG AS WE GET OUT BY 7:30 I CAN TAKE MY YOUNGEST TO
11:55:46PM SCHOOL, I'M FINE.
11:55:49PM >> I HAVE SOME THINGS TO ENTER IN THE RECORD.
11:55:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE GIVE IT TO THE ATTORNEY.
11:55:53PM NEXT SPEAKER IS NUMBER 13, ABE MARCADES.
11:56:13PM A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM WITH FOUR PEOPLE.
11:56:15PM YES, SIR, PLEASE GIVE THE LIST TO THE ATTORNEY AND HE'S
11:56:25PM GOING TO READ THE NAMES OFF.
11:56:26PM YOUR NAME, SIR, IS.
11:56:37PM >> MY NAME IS DR. ABE MARCADES.
11:56:44PM THREE NAMES.
11:56:46PM STEVE KREITZER, MARK MILLER, FRANCINE LEVINE.
11:56:50PM FRANCINE LEVINE AND STEVE KREITZER.
11:57:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE YOU SIGNED ANY OTHER SPEAKER WAIVER
11:57:13PM FORM?
11:57:13PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:57:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIX MINUTES TOTAL.
11:57:25PM >> THANK YOU.
11:57:26PM MY NAME IS DR. ABE MARCADES.
11:57:30PM 2619 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD NEXT TO FRED BALL PARK AND LESS THAN
11:57:34PM A BLOCK FROM THE PROPERTY.
11:57:35PM I'M A FOURTH GENERATION TAMPA NATIVE AND A LIFELONG MEMBER,
11:57:40PM PAST PRESIDENT AND CURRENT BOARD MEMBER OF RODEPH SHOLOM.
11:57:44PM THIS PROPOSAL SHOULD BE APPROVED FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
11:57:47PM THIS PLAN BALANCES RESPONSIBLE GROWTH WITH ENHANCING MY
11:57:52PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:57:53PM I HAVE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE AS NOT JUST A MEMBER OF
11:57:57PM CONGREGATION RODEPH SHOLOM BUT ALSO AS A NEIGHBOR.
11:58:00PM I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I HAVE AN INTEREST IN SEEING
11:58:03PM MY NEIGHBORHOOD BENEFIT FROM THE ENHANCEMENTS AND
11:58:06PM RESPONSIBLE GROWTH THAT RELATED HAS TO OFFER.
11:58:08PM THIS PLAN OFFERS A SENSIBLE SOLUTION AND AVOIDS ANOTHER
11:58:13PM MASSIVE BUILDING DIRECTLY ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
11:58:16PM IT IMPROVES THE LANDSCAPING, THE SIDEWALKS, AND CROSSWALKS.
11:58:20PM RELATED FUNDS WILL HELP ENHANCE FRED BALL PARK.
11:58:23PM ALLOWS MORE TAMPA CITIZENS TO ENJOY OUR SPECIAL WATERFRONT.
11:58:28PM IN ADDITION, THE CITY CURRENTLY IS RECEIVING NO TAX DOLLARS
11:58:32PM FROM THIS VALUABLE PIECE OF REAL ESTATE.
11:58:34PM THIS PLAN WILL BRING INCREASED REVENUE FOR TAMPA AND
11:58:38PM STRENGTHEN OUR TAX BASE.
11:58:39PM SECONDLY, THIS PLAN IS GOOD FOR TAMPA BUT IS ALSO VITAL FOR
11:58:45PM RODEPH SHOLOM.
11:58:46PM RODEPH SHOLOM IS ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AS A LANDMARK, ALONG
11:58:52PM WITH THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, A CATHOLIC SCHOOL, RODEPH
11:58:57PM SHOLOM'S JEWISH PRESENCE ON BAYSHORE REFLECTS THE DIVERSITY
11:59:01PM AND TOLERANCE THAT TAMPA IS KNOWN FOR.
11:59:04PM BUT AS A SMALL MINORITY, STAYING FINANCIALLY VIABLE AND
11:59:08PM REMAINING AT THE PRESENT LOCATION HAS INCREASINGLY BECOME A
11:59:13PM CHALLENGE.
11:59:13PM THIS PLAN ALLOWS RODEPH SHOLOM TO ESTABLISH AN ENDOWMENT TO
11:59:17PM REMAIN ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
11:59:20PM THIRDLY, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT BEING UTILIZED AT ITS HIGHEST
11:59:26PM AND BEST USE.
11:59:27PM THE UNDERLYING REASON THAT THIS ISSUE IS SO PROBLEMATIC IS
11:59:30PM THAT A JEWISH SYNAGOGUE ON THE PROPERTY IS NOT THE HIGHEST
11:59:33PM AND BEST USE OF THIS LAND.
11:59:35PM THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE WOULD PROBABLY BE TO DEVELOP THE
11:59:39PM ENTIRE PROPERTY WITH THE LARGEST CONDOMINIUM THAT THE LAND
11:59:43PM WILL SUPPORT.
11:59:44PM RODEPH SHOLOM IS SITUATED ON LAND THAT IS MUCH MORE VALUABLE
11:59:48PM TO A DEVELOPER THAN IT IS TO A JEWISH CONGREGATION.
11:59:51PM IT MAKES NO SENSE TO RODEPH SHOLOM TO CONTINUE TO TIE UP ITS
12:00:59AM EQUITY IN THIS EXPENSIVE REAL ESTATE WHEN IT NEEDS THE FUNDS
12:00:00AM TO EXIST.
12:00:00AM WITHOUT THIS DEAL, IT IS NOT PRACTICAL FOR RODEPH SHOLOM TO
12:00:03AM REMAIN ON THIS PROPERTY.
12:00:05AM THE LAND IS SIMPLY TOO VALUABLE.
12:00:08AM UNLESS WE ALL BELIEVE THAT AN AGING JEWISH SYNAGOGUE AND A
12:00:11AM LITTLE PINK HOUSE SHOVED INTO THE CORNER IS THE BEST USE FOR
12:00:14AM THIS PROPERTY THEN THIS LAND WILL BECOME SOMETHING ELSE AND
12:00:18AM IF RODEPH SHOLOM IS NOT THERE TO MODERATE THE PLAN, THE
12:00:22AM ENTIRE PROPERTY WILL DEVELOP TO ITS HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
12:00:25AM AS NEIGHBORS, WE SHOULD ALL BE CONCERNED WITH THE
12:00:28AM CONSEQUENCES.
12:00:28AM RODEPH SHOLOM HAS TURNED DOWN NUMEROUS OFFERS TO SELL THE
12:00:32AM ENTIRE PROPERTY FOR SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN THE CURRENT ONE.
12:00:35AM BUT EVENTUALLY THE CONGREGATION WILL BE FORCED TO REALIZE
12:00:39AM SOME OF ITS LAND VALUE BY SELLING EITHER A PORTION OF THE
12:00:42AM PROPERTY OR THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
12:00:45AM WITH THIS RELATED PLAN, RODEPH SHOLOM WILL BE ABLE TO
12:00:48AM REALIZE A PORTION OF THE LAND VALUE WITHOUT RESORTING TO
12:00:51AM DEVELOPMENT OF THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
12:00:53AM THIS PLAN BALANCES RODEPH SHOLOM'S NEEDS WITH THE LEAST
12:00:57AM DISRUPTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:00:58AM FINALLY, LARGER PROJECTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED IN THE
12:01:03AM AREA.
12:01:04AM FROM WHERE I LIVE NEXT TO FRED BALL PARK, I CAN SEE AT LEAST
12:01:07AM THREE OTHER PROJECTS, BUILDINGS OF A MUCH LARGER SCALE THAT
12:01:10AM ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION NEAR THE PROPERTY.
12:01:13AM UNLESS THE CITY DECIDES THAT NO FURTHER GROWTH IS PLANNED
12:01:15AM FOR BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, DENYING THIS MORE LIMITED PROPOSAL
12:01:19AM WHILE ALLOWING LARGER ONES TO PROCEED UNFAIRLY DISADVANTAGES
12:01:23AM THE CONGREGATION AND MANY LONGTIME TAMPA RESIDENTS WHO WANT
12:01:26AM TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF THEIR PROPERTY FOR THEIR FUTURE.
12:01:30AM RELATED'S PLAN TO TAKE AN EMPTY PARKING LOT AND TURN IT INTO
12:01:34AM RESIDENCES WOULD GIVE TAMPA CITIZENS THE CHANCE TO ENJOY THE
12:01:37AM BAYSHORE AREA.
12:01:39AM IT WOULD ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND PROVIDE FUNDS TO
12:01:41AM BEAUTIFY FRED BALL PARK AND TO PROVIDE INCOME PRODUCING
12:01:45AM PROPERTY FOR THE CITY.
12:01:46AM THE PLAN IS A WIN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE SYNAGOGUE, AND
12:01:49AM THE CITY, AND IT SHOULD BE APPROVED.
12:01:51AM TAMPA WILL CONTINUE TO GROW BUT REJECTING FURTHER
12:01:56AM DEVELOPMENT TO KEEP THE STATUS QUO IS NOT AN OPTION.
12:01:59AM LET'S BUILD A FUTURE THAT MAKES GROWTH -- BALANCES GROWTH
12:02:04AM WITH WHAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY SPECIAL.
12:02:06AM PLEASE VOTE FOR THIS IN FAVOR OF THIS PROPOSAL.
12:02:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:02:10AM JONATHAN MOORE, NUMBER 14.
12:02:22AM >> GOOD EVENING OR GOOD MORNING.
12:02:27AM MY NAME IS JONATHAN MOORE.
12:02:28AM 1501 WEST CLEVELAND.
12:02:30AM I'M PRESIDENT OF A LOCAL OWNERS REPRESENTATIVE FIRM.
12:02:34AM I COME BEFORE YOU GUYS ON MANY REZONES.
12:02:36AM I'VE BEEN A CONSULTANT OF CONGREGATION RODEPH, BUT TONIGHT
12:02:41AM I'M HERE ON MY OWN TIME.
12:02:43AM I'M A FLORIDA REGISTERED ARCHITECT AND I'VE WORKED ON OVER
12:02:46AM 500 PROJECTS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:02:49AM I FEEL THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS SMART DEVELOPMENT.
12:02:54AM I FEEL IT'S GOOD FOR TAMPA AND RIGHT FOR THIS SITE.
12:02:57AM WE TALK A LOT ABOUT COMMUNITY.
12:03:00AM WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WORKING AROUND TREES, APPROPRIATE
12:03:05AM DENSITY, SUSTAINABLE GROWTH.
12:03:07AM THIS PROJECT IS ALL OF THOSE.
12:03:10AM I WAS PRESENT FOR THE FIRST HEARING AND THE APPLICANT
12:03:12AM LISTENED TO WHAT STAFF SAID.
12:03:15AM THEY WENT BACK AND COMPLIED WITH MOST ALL OF THE REQUESTS.
12:03:18AM THIS PROJECT SHOULD BE A SLAM-DUNK.
12:03:21AM YOU HEARD STAFF FINDING THE PROJECT CONSISTENT.
12:03:26AM SOME OF THE SPECIFIC CHANGES THAT INTEREST ME IS WE'RE NOW
12:03:30AM PRESERVING ALL OF THE GRAND OAK TREES ON-SITE.
12:03:33AM WE'RE RETAINING MORE THAN 50% OF THE REQUIRED LIVE TREES,
12:03:39AM AND WITH REGARDS TO PARKING, REMEMBER, WE'RE REMOVING A 100
12:03:46AM CHILD PRESCHOOL FROM THE SITE AND REPLACING IT WITH A 42
12:03:50AM UNIT RESIDENTIAL PROJECT, A LESS DENSE PROJECT WHEN YOU TALK
12:03:55AM ABOUT TRAFFIC.
12:03:57AM I'M SO APPRECIATIVE FOR CITY COUNCIL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO
12:04:01AM LISTEN TO EVERYBODY TONIGHT.
12:04:03AM I THINK IT'S RUN FANTASTIC.
12:04:06AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
12:04:07AM I'M VERY PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO
12:04:13AM DO THE SAME.
12:04:14AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:04:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:04:15AM NEXT IS PAULA MECKLEY, NUMBER 15.
12:04:25AM >> HELLO.
12:04:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:04:30AM >> I'M PAULA MECKLEY.
12:04:32AM I AM THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB.
12:04:35AM AND I LIVE ABOUT A MILE AWAY FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.
12:04:38AM THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT ENCOURAGING
12:04:43AM DESIGN COMPATIBILITY BASED ON THE FORM OF THE SURROUNDING
12:04:47AM BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL FEATURES.
12:04:49AM THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS A SPECIAL
12:04:53AM PLACE WITH LOWER DENSITY DUE TO THE TOPOGRAPHY SURROUNDING
12:04:57AM THE NATURAL SPRING AT FRED BALL PARK AND THE ABUNDANCE OF
12:04:59AM THE GRAND OAK TREES SURROUNDING THE PROPERTIES LIKE THE
12:05:02AM TAMPA GARDEN CLUB AND, YES, EVEN RODEPH SHOLOM'S LOW-PROFILE
12:05:07AM SYNAGOGUE AND THEIR SCHOOL ADD TO THAT OPEN FEELING.
12:05:12AM THESE PROPERTIES CREATE A PLACE SANDWICHED BETWEEN BAYSHORE
12:05:15AM BOULEVARD AND THE CROSSTOWN EXPRESSWAY.
12:05:19AM ISN'T THE GOAL OF DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE BALANCE?
12:05:20AM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES THAT.
12:05:23AM WHEN DOES THE CREEP OF THESE ENORMOUS BUILDINGS STOP?
12:05:26AM THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IS DESTROYING EXISTING
12:05:31AM NEIGHBORHOODS BY CHANGING THE FABRIC OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD
12:05:35AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
12:05:36AM IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, POLICY NE 2.2.4 STATES THE FAIR
12:05:44AM -- IN AREAS NOT TO EXCEED -- IN AREAS NOT EXPECTED TO TAKE
12:05:50AM SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF GROWTH, AREAS OF STABILITY, ENCOURAGE
12:05:53AM LIMITED SCOPES OF WORK THAT FOCUS ON SPECIFIC ISSUES OR
12:05:56AM CONCERNS, RATHER THAN BROAD MULTI-FOCUSED PLANNING
12:06:00AM PROCESSES.
12:06:01AM ALL RIGHT.
12:06:02AM SO LET'S LOOK AT THAT.
12:06:03AM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
12:06:04AM IT SAYS THERE ARE TWO DISTRICTS.
12:06:06AM SOUTH TAMPA AND NEW TAMPA.
12:06:07AM AND THAT THESE CHARACTERISTICS CLEARLY SHOW LIMITED GROWTH
12:06:12AM OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT THESE ARE AREAS OF STABILITY.
12:06:14AM SO ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITIES THAT WOULD BE COMPROMISED BY
12:06:19AM INCREASED URBANIZATION.
12:06:20AM THAT'S US, LIMITED ACCESS TO TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES.
12:06:23AM THAT'S US.
12:06:25AM WHICH WOULD BE INEFFECTIVE TO IMPROVE.
12:06:27AM THERE'S NO NEW STUFF COMING SOUTH OF KENNEDY FOR
12:06:30AM TRANSPORTATION.
12:06:31AM LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE MORE COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
12:06:35AM GETTING RID OF OPEN SPACES.
12:06:37AM THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
12:06:38AM WE'RE GETTING RID OF THESE OPEN SPACES.
12:06:40AM AND OUR SERVICES, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FIREFIGHTERS.
12:06:43AM WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS.
12:06:44AM UNABLE TO -- THE FLOOD -- WE'RE IN A FLOOD ZONE.
12:06:50AM THIS BUILDING WOULD BE IN A FLOOD ZONE.
12:06:53AM LAND USE POLICY 1.2.3 SAYS RELATE NEW BUILDINGS AND
12:06:57AM DEVELOPMENT TO THE CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
12:06:59AM COMMUNITY.
12:06:59AM IF YOU CONTINUE TO ALLOW THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, YOU CITY
12:07:03AM COUNCIL ARE SINGLE-HANDEDLY CHANGING THE CONTEXT OF THIS
12:07:08AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY.
12:07:08AM THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB HAS REPEATEDLY, REPEATEDLY SAID WE'RE
12:07:12AM NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT.
12:07:13AM AND WE'VE TRIED TO DISCUSS A LESS INTRUSIVE BUILDING THAT
12:07:20AM PROVIDES TRANSITION INTO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND
12:07:22AM THEY WOULDN'T CONSIDER IT, WOULDN'T TALK TO US ABOUT IT.
12:07:24AM SO, LOOK, PROMOTE PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENTS WITH THE HIGHEST
12:07:29AM QUALITY OF EMPHASIS.
12:07:29AM POLICY 1.2.16, AND IT SAYS THAT THAT GOES TO THE IDENTITY OF
12:07:35AM EACH NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:07:37AM PLEASE DENY THIS.
12:07:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:07:40AM NEXT IS TRACY RILEY.
12:07:42AM 16, WHO HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM WITH THREE PEOPLE I
12:07:46AM BELIEVE.
12:07:47AM PLEASE GIVE THE FORM TO THE ATTORNEY AND HE'LL READ OFF THE
12:07:49AM NAMES.
12:08:00AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SHAWN RILEY.
12:08:01AM MISSY STEDMAN.
12:08:04AM NANCY NELSON.
12:08:06AM THREE ADDITIONAL MINUTES.
12:08:10AM TOTAL OF 6.
12:08:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:08:17AM >> MY NAME IS TRACY RILEY.
12:08:19AM MEMBERS OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING OR GOOD
12:08:24AM MORNING.
12:08:25AM I'M HERE AS A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ROSE GARDEN
12:08:29AM CIRCLE AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN OF SOUTH TAMPA AND AS A
12:08:32AM REPRESENTATIVE OF OVER 1700 SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENTS THAT
12:08:36AM SIGNED THE PETITION AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT.
12:08:38AM THERE IS SO MUCH ATTENTION FOCUSED ON THIS LITTLE PARK, I
12:08:43AM FEEL LIKE IT WANTS ITS STORY TOLD.
12:08:45AM IN 1845, FAMILIES OF CURRENT RESIDENTS CAME TO THE SPRING
12:08:48AM BECAUSE THEY BELIEVED IT COULD HEAL THEIR AILMENTS.
12:08:52AM AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE HISTORIC PHOTOS HERE, IN THE EARLY
12:08:55AM 1900s, IT BECAME A PUBLIC RECREATIONAL POOL WITH ITS OWN
12:08:59AM TROLLEY STOP.
12:09:00AM SADLY DUE TO RUMORS THAT TYPHOID WAS IN THE WATER, IT WAS
12:09:04AM CLOSED AND CONCRETED OVER.
12:09:06AM THEN COUNTY COMMISSIONER FRED BALL PURCHASED THE PARK FOR
12:09:09AM THE COUNTY AND GAVE IT TO THE CITY WHERE IT REMAINED IN
12:09:12AM DISREPAIR UNTIL 1988 WHEN ROSE CIRCLE OFFICIALLY ADOPTED IT
12:09:17AM AND DECIDED TO RAISE THE MONEY TO BUILD FRED BALL PARK AND
12:09:21AM EXCAVATE PALMA CEIA SPRING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY.
12:09:25AM WE WOULD THE CITY OF TAMPA PARKS AND RECREATION HAVE BEEN
12:09:28AM THE PARK'S LONG-TERM CARETAKERS EVER SINCE.
12:09:32AM IT WAS RECENTLY WRITTEN IN THE TAMPA BAY TIMES THAT THE PARK
12:09:34AM NEEDS SOME WORK.
12:09:35AM IT NEEDS SOME LOVE.
12:09:37AM THIS IS ONE ITEM WE CAN CERTAINLY ALL AGREE ON AS THE
12:09:41AM PRIMARY REASON THAT THE PARK NEEDS WORK IS BECAUSE THE REAL
12:09:45AM ESTATE DEVELOPER OF THE SANCTUARY DESTROYED THE PARK DURING
12:09:48AM THE BUILDING'S CONSTRUCTION.
12:09:50AM THE DEVELOPER PROMISED TO FIX THE DAMAGE AND MAKE THE PARK
12:09:53AM ADA COMPLIANT BUT THOSE PROMISES NEVER CAME TO FRUITION AND
12:09:58AM THE DEVELOPER WAS NEVER HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEM.
12:10:02AM LET'S NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE.
12:10:04AM ROSE CIRCLE HAS DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT TO THE PARK'S
12:10:08AM PRESERVATION SINCE ITS INCEPTION AND HAS HOSTED A YEARLY
12:10:11AM GARDEN TOUR FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
12:10:14AM THE PROCEEDS OF WHICH GO DIRECTLY TO THE PARK'S
12:10:17AM IMPROVEMENTS.
12:10:18AM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CITY TO REPAIR THE PARK AND
12:10:20AM ARE CURRENTLY SPONSORING MULTIPLE PROJECTS TO REPAIR AND
12:10:24AM RENOVATE.
12:10:24AM WE HAVE A CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP WITH KEEPING TAMPA BAY
12:10:28AM BEAUTIFUL AND BAYSHORE NEIGHBORHOOD GARDEN ASSOCIATION.
12:10:33AM AND RECENTLY, WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH ECOSPHERE RESTORATION
12:10:37AM INSTITUTE WHO PROVIDED ME A LETTER WHICH I PROVIDED YOU AS
12:10:43AM WELL.
12:10:43AM A NONPROFIT THAT SPECIALIZES IN SPRING RESTORATION AND
12:10:48AM PRESERVATION PROJECTS AND WHO RECENTLY RESTORED ULELE
12:10:52AM SPRING.
12:10:53AM THROUGH THIS PARTNERSHIP, WE INTEND TO RESTORE THE HISTORIC
12:10:56AM PALMA CEIA SPRING FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO ENJOY.
12:11:00AM ROSE CIRCLE HAS RECENTLY FILED TO HAVE THE PALMA CEIA SPRING
12:11:04AM DESIGNATED AS HISTORICAL LANDMARK.
12:11:07AM ADDITIONALLY, ROSE CIRCLE HAS WORKED WITH THE TAMPA PARKS
12:11:10AM AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT TO UNDERSTAND THEIR DESIRED
12:11:14AM IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PARK, AND WE, WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE
12:11:18AM TAMPA GARDEN CLUB ARE PREPARED TO RAISE THE NECESSARY FUNDS
12:11:23AM TO SEE THAT THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE.
12:11:25AM ROSE CIRCLE INTENDS TO KEEP UP OUR COLLABORATIVE PARTNERSHIP
12:11:28AM WITH THE CITY AS WE CONTINUE TO ENHANCE THE PARK AND MOST
12:11:32AM IMPORTANTLY WE WILL KEEP OUR PROMISES.
12:11:35AM IF THE RELATED GROUP REALLY DOES CARE ABOUT THE PRESERVATION
12:11:38AM OF THE PARKS IN SOUTH TAMPA, THEN LET THEM SHOW IT BY
12:11:42AM DONATING NO STRINGS ATTACHED FUNDS TO LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS
12:11:46AM THAT RESTORE OUR PARKS.
12:11:48AM TAMPA GARDEN CLUB AND ROSE CIRCLE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR
12:11:51AM CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP IN COLLABORATION WITH THE CITY OF
12:11:53AM TAMPA PARKS AND REC.
12:11:55AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.
12:11:57AM I ASK YOU TO PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS DEVELOPMENT RESOLUTION
12:12:01AM AGREEMENT.
12:12:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:12:04AM THE NEXT SPEAKER IS 17, COURTNEY.
12:12:08AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND PUT THE NUMBER IN THE
12:12:19AM BASKET.
12:12:22AM >> GOOD EVENING.
12:12:23AM MY NAME IS COURTNEY HONING.
12:12:25AM I AM A SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENT.
12:12:27AM I'M ALSO THE CIVIC CHAIR FOR THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB.
12:12:30AM I'M HERE TO ASK THAT YOU DENY THE REZONING REQUEST BEFORE
12:12:33AM YOU HERE TONIGHT.
12:12:34AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE IMPORTANT POINT THAT THE TAMPA
12:12:36AM GARDEN CLUB WHICH IS DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO THE PROPOSED
12:12:39AM REZONING IS A SMALL WOMEN OWNED WOMEN RUN BUSINESS.
12:12:43AM I WOULD EXPECT THAT IF I ASK EACH OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS IF
12:12:46AM YOU SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS IN TAMPA, YOU WOULD SAY YES.
12:12:50AM WELL, NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO PROVE IT.
12:12:52AM THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES ON PAGE 327 THAT WHEN
12:12:56AM CONSIDERING REZONING, THE CITY COUNCIL MUST CONSIDER THE
12:12:59AM IMPLICATIONS TO NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
12:13:00AM THE IMPACT OF THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION, THE NOISE, THE
12:13:05AM TRAFFIC COULD BE A DETRIMENT TO BOTH CURRENT AND FUTURE
12:13:08AM BOOKINGS FOR WEDDINGS AND ALL TYPES OF EVENTS AT THE TAMPA
12:13:12AM GARDEN CLUB.
12:13:12AM THE QUIETNESS OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE UNFAIRLY IMPLICATED.
12:13:16AM CAN YOU IMAGINE THE SHADOW OF THE LARGE TOWER AND WHAT IT
12:13:20AM WILL PLACE OVER YOUR BEAUTIFUL WEDDING GARDEN?
12:13:22AM WHO WOULD WANT CONCRETE SPRING GOING ON NEXT DOOR NEXT TO
12:13:26AM YOUR BEAUTIFUL WEDDING EVENT.
12:13:28AM I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA'S OWN
12:13:31AM WEBSITE STATES ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES.
12:13:33AM SUCCESSFUL SMALL BUSINESSES ARE ESSENTIAL TO MAINTAINING A
12:13:36AM HEALTHY ECONOMY.
12:13:37AM THE CITY OF TAMPA RECOGNIZES THE CHALLENGES FACED BY MANY
12:13:40AM SMALL AND MINORITY-OWNED BUSINESSES AND OFFERS VALUABLE
12:13:43AM INFORMATIONAL SERVICES AND PROGRAMS TO HELP YOU REMAIN
12:13:46AM COMPETITIVE, END QUOTE.
12:13:48AM PLEASE HELP US REMAIN COMPETITIVE AND TO CONTINUE TO OFFER
12:13:52AM OUR WONDERFUL SERVICES TO THIS COMMUNITY.
12:13:54AM OUR SMALL BUSINESS OF VENUE RENTAL ALLOWS US TO USE THAT
12:13:58AM MONEY NOT ONLY TO MAINTAIN OUR BUILDING, IT ALLOWS US TO DO
12:14:03AM PHILANTHROPIC WORK THROUGHOUT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
12:14:05AM WE HAVE INSTALLED BUTTERFLY GARDENS IN SCHOOLS, VEGETABLE
12:14:08AM GARDENS IN SCHOOLS, BUILT COMMUNITY GARDENS, WORKED WITH
12:14:12AM MASTER GARDEN AND COMMUNITY EVENTS, PLANTED TREES AT
12:14:15AM ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND WORKED WITH TAMPA BAY BEAUTIFUL ON
12:14:18AM PARKING FOR CLEANUP AFTER GASPARILLA.
12:14:20AM I COULD GO ON AND ON ABOUT THE PHILANTHROPIC WORK AT THE
12:14:24AM TAMPA GARDEN CLUB, BUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE IS THAT OUR
12:14:26AM ABILITY TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IS NOW IN JEOPARDY.
12:14:30AM WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
12:14:32AM WE AS MUCH AS ANYONE WANT TAMPA TO BE A SUCCESSFUL, THRIVING
12:14:36AM CITY.
12:14:37AM WE ARE ASKING FOR COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT.
12:14:41AM PER FLORIDA STATUTES, COMPATIBILITY MEANS A CONDITION IN
12:14:44AM WHICH LAND USES OR CONDITIONS CAN COEXIST IN RELATIVE
12:14:47AM PROXIMITY TO EACH OTHER IN STABLE FASHION OVER TIME SUCH
12:14:52AM THAT NO USE OR CONDITION IS UNDULY NEGATIVELY IMPACTED
12:14:56AM DIRECTLY BY ANOTHER USE OR ADDITION.
12:14:58AM THIS PROPOSED BUILDING IS OBVIOUSLY NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE
12:15:00AM SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING
12:15:03AM BUSINESSES.
12:15:04AM ZONING IS IN PLACE FOR A REASON.
12:15:06AM ONLY THE CURRENT ZONING SHOULD BE ALLOWED.
12:15:09AM THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME THIS EVENING.
12:15:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:15:11AM NEXT UP IS LAURA KREITZER. NO, MA'AM, 18.
12:15:16AM YES, MA'AM.
12:15:18AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:15:22AM >> GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
12:15:26AM I'VE CUT MY REMARKS TO THE BONE IN RESPECT TO THE HOUR AND
12:15:29AM TO YOUR TIME.
12:15:30AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
12:15:32AM MY NAME IS LAURA KREITZER.
12:15:35AM MY FAMILY AND I HAVE BEEN MEMBERS OF CONGREGATION RODEPH
12:15:38AM SHOLOM FOR 50 YEARS, AND I SERVED AS ITS PRESIDENT FROM 2014
12:15:45AM TO 2016.
12:15:46AM THE SYNAGOGUE AND THE GARDEN CLUB WERE BUILT WITHIN A FEW
12:15:49AM YEARS OF EACH OTHER AND ALL OF US WHO HAVE LIVED HERE FOR A
12:15:53AM WHILE KNOW THAT TAMPA AND ESPECIALLY SOUTH TAMPA AND THE
12:15:58AM ENTIRE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN CHANGING IN
12:16:01AM THE ENSUING DECADES.
12:16:03AM GROWTH AND CHANGE ARE A FACT OF OUR COMMUNITY'S LIFE, AND IT
12:16:08AM WOULD BE DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THAT THIS PLAN WOULD BE THE BIG
12:16:13AM CHANGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:16:14AM OUR BUILDING WITH ITS DISTINCTIVE MENORAH DESIGN FACING
12:16:21AM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS A SIGN AND A SYMBOL OF THE HISTORIC
12:16:24AM INCLUSIVITY OF OUR COMMUNITY.
12:16:27AM TO BE ABLE TO REMAIN ON OUR SITE SENDS A MESSAGE TO ALL OF
12:16:31AM TAMPA THAT THIS JEWISH CONGREGATION AND ITS MEMBERS HAVE A
12:16:34AM FUTURE AS WELL AS A PAST IN THIS CITY.
12:16:37AM MOST OF OUR MEMBERS LIVE IN SOUTH TAMPA, PROBABLY
12:16:43AM THREE-QUARTERS OF US WITHIN TWO TO THREE MILES OF THE
12:16:45AM SYNAGOGUE WITH MANY OF THOSE MEMBERS BEING BAYSHORE
12:16:48AM BOULEVARD RESIDENTS AS WELL.
12:16:52AM OUR BUILDING IS USED EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK FOR WORSHIP, FOR
12:16:56AM MEETINGS, AND TO PROVIDE COMMUNITY SERVICE.
12:17:00AM HAVING THIS INNOVATIVE PLAN WILL ENABLE US TO ENSURE THAT
12:17:06AM THE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF RODEPH SHOLOM WILL EXIST,
12:17:12AM AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN OUR ICONIC PRESENCE ON
12:17:17AM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
12:17:18AM WE HAVE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS FOR 55 YEARS, AND IT IS OUR
12:17:22AM INTENTION TO CONTINUE TO DO SO.
12:17:24AM I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE COUNCIL ALLOW US TO HAVE THAT
12:17:29AM OPPORTUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
12:17:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:17:32AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:17:33AM JACK ROSS.
12:17:40AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU
12:17:44AM VERY MUCH.
12:17:44AM MY NAME IS JACK ROSS.
12:17:46AM I AM A LONGTIME TAMPA RESIDENT.
12:17:48AM I AM A LONGTIME MEMBER OF RODEPH SHOLOM.
12:17:51AM I'M HERE TONIGHT -- THIS MORNING REPRESENTING THE TAMPA
12:17:54AM JCCs AND FEDERATION AT 522 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE.
12:17:58AM AS YOU'RE AWARE, THE JCC OPERATES A PRESCHOOL AT RODEPH
12:18:02AM SHOLOM.
12:18:03AM JONATHAN MOORE MENTIONED WE HAVE A CENSUS OF 100.
12:18:06AM IT'S ACTUALLY 130.
12:18:08AM WE'RE REPLACING THE TRAFFIC OF 130 PARENTS COMING AT ALL
12:18:11AM TIMES OF THE DAY WITH THE 42 RESIDENTS.
12:18:13AM THE JCC AND THE FEDERATION FULLY SUPPORTS THIS REDEVELOPMENT
12:18:17AM PLAN.
12:18:18AM IN FACT, WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVE SITES FOR
12:18:20AM OUR PRESCHOOL AS WE SPEAK.
12:18:23AM THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE SOUND EFFECTS OF CONSTRUCTION.
12:18:28AM EVEN RIGHT NOW THE CITY IS TEARING UP AND IMPROVING HOWARD
12:18:32AM AVENUE.
12:18:32AM THE CITY HAS MET WITH US, OUR ORGANIZATION, OTHER
12:18:36AM BUSINESSES.
12:18:38AM WE SAT, WE COORDINATE, AND WE WORK AROUND THE CONSTRUCTION.
12:18:41AM CONSTRUCTION IS ALWAYS GOING TO HAPPEN.
12:18:42AM IT'S NOT ABOUT THE SOUND EFFECTS THAT YOU HEARD.
12:18:44AM IT'S NOT ABOUT THE NUPTIALS THAT WILL BE INTERRUPTED.
12:18:47AM AMONG MY MANY HATS THAT I WEAR AT THE ORGANIZATION, TAMPA
12:18:50AM JCC FEDERATION, I AM SUPERVISOR OF OUR EVENT CENTER.
12:18:54AM AND WE HAVE WEDDINGS ALL THE TIME AND THEY ARE FRIDAY
12:18:58AM EVENINGS AND SATURDAY MORNINGS AND SATURDAY EVENINGS AND
12:19:00AM SUNDAY MORNINGS.
12:19:01AM AND THEY NEVER IN THE SIX YEARS THAT WE OPERATED MONDAY,
12:19:04AM TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, BUT THEY ARE ON THURSDAY.
12:19:07AM IN ANY EVENT, I'M NOT TELLING YOU THEIR CALENDAR, BUT I'M
12:19:12AM TELLING YOU AS A PERSON SUPERVISING AN EVENT CENTER WITH
12:19:16AM NUPTIALS THAT DURING THE WEEK AND DURING BUSINESS HOURS IS
12:19:18AM NOT TYPICALLY THE BREAD AND BUTTER OF AN ORGANIZATION THAT
12:19:22AM HOLDS THIS.
12:19:22AM BUT WHAT THIS IS, THIS PROJECT IS, A SMART PROJECT THAT A
12:19:30AM NUMBER ONE CITY LIKE TAMPA SHOULD HIGHLIGHT.
12:19:34AM RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT PRESERVES AND BLENDS TAMPA'S
12:19:36AM CULTURE WITH THE HISTORY AND NEW DEVELOPMENT.
12:19:39AM ENSURES THAT BOTH THE GARDEN CLUB AND SYNAGOGUE CONTINUE
12:19:41AM THEIR IMPORTANT WORK FOR THE NEXT HUNDRED YEARS.
12:19:44AM THE DEVELOPER RELATED HAS ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH THE GARDEN
12:19:48AM CLUB AND OTHER NEIGHBORS.
12:19:49AM THEY MADE CONCESSIONS AND REVISIONS TO ENSURE THE NEW
12:19:52AM DEVELOPMENT INTEGRATES WELL INTO THE EXISTING SURROUNDINGS.
12:19:55AM THIS COLLABORATIVE APPROACH HAS IMPROVED THE PROJECT
12:19:58AM IMMENSELY AND SHOWS A COMMITMENT TO BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
12:20:02AM RELATED HAS ALSO ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT, AS WE
12:20:06AM UNDERSTAND, THAT ENSURES THAT THE SITE WILL NOT IF SOLD IN
12:20:10AM THE FUTURE, A FUTURE OWNER WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DEVELOP
12:20:15AM BEYOND THE HEIGHT OF RODEPH SHOLOM AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
12:20:18AM SO IT BRINGS THIS -- THIS AGREEMENT BRINGS THE CERTAINTY AND
12:20:23AM STABILITY TO THE AREA WHILE PRESERVING THE CHARACTER OF THE
12:20:25AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO APPROVE THE PETITIONER'S
12:20:29AM REQUEST.
12:20:29AM THANK YOU.
12:20:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:20:32AM WARREN HARRIS.
12:20:32AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:20:46AM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:20:47AM MY NAME IS WARREN HARRIS.
12:20:49AM I'M A RESIDENT OF TAMPA, AND I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF RODEPH
12:20:53AM SHOLOM.
12:20:54AM I WOULD MENTION THAT OVER THE LAST 120 YEARS, THERE HAVE
12:20:58AM BEEN THOUSANDS OF MEMBERS OF RODEPH SHOLOM, ALMOST ALL OF
12:21:02AM WHOM HAVE BEEN CITIZENS OF TAMPA.
12:21:05AM AND IT OCCURS TO ME THAT PART OF YOUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO
12:21:08AM MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE ADEQUATE TAXES BEING PAID ON THE
12:21:11AM PROPERTIES IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:21:14AM THERE'S ONLY ONE PLAN HERE THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED THAT WOULD
12:21:18AM GENERATE SOME INCOME FROM THE PROPERTY THAT IS BEING
12:21:23AM DESCRIBED AS BOTH THE SYNAGOGUE AND THE WOMEN'S CENTER.
12:21:27AM SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THE PROGRAM AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO
12:21:29AM CONSIDER IT STRONGLY.
12:21:30AM I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE EVENTUAL USE OF THE PROPERTY.
12:21:37AM I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF RODEPH FOR MANY YEARS, AND I'VE
12:21:41AM RAISED MY CHILDREN HERE AND I WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE MEMBERS
12:21:43AM OF RODEPH AND I WOULD LIKE RODEPH TO BE IN THAT LOCATION.
12:21:46AM THIS PROGRAM, THIS PROPOSAL ALLOWS RODEPH TO STAY PUT AND
12:21:51AM UTILIZE THE ASSET OF ITS PROPERTY.
12:21:54AM MY CONCERN IS IF THIS IS DENIED AND NO DEVELOPMENT OCCURS IN
12:21:59AM THIS LOCATION, EVENTUALLY THAT PROPERTY WILL CONTINUE TO
12:22:02AM RISE IN VALUE.
12:22:03AM AND ONE DAY SOMEONE WILL COME INTO THE LEADERS RODEPH AND
12:22:08AM GIVE THEM ENOUGH MONEY THAT THEY WILL BE WILLING TO WALK
12:22:10AM AWAY FROM THE ENTIRE PROGRAM, FROM THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, AND
12:22:14AM THEN YOU'LL BE CONFRONTED WITH AN EVEN LARGER CONDOMINIUM
12:22:17AM WITH EVEN MORE PEOPLE DIRECTLY ON BAYSHORE INSTEAD OF BEHIND
12:22:21AM THE SYNAGOGUE IN BAYSHORE.
12:22:23AM IT OCCURS TO ME THAT THIS IS LIKE THAT TV COMMERCIAL WE SAW
12:22:27AM YEARS AGO WHERE THEY SAID YOU CAN EITHER PAY ME NOW OR YOU
12:22:30AM CAN PAY ME LATER.
12:22:32AM EITHER WAY, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE MOVING INTO HILLSBOROUGH
12:22:35AM COUNTY AND SPECIFICALLY TO THE CITY OF TAMPA IS GROWING.
12:22:39AM WE CAN'T STOP IT.
12:22:40AM IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS.
12:22:41AM AND WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE PEOPLE AND THEY ARE
12:22:43AM GOING TO WANT TO LIVE ON BAYSHORE OR NEAR BAYSHORE AND THEY
12:22:46AM ARE GOING TO WANT A HIGH-RISE LOCATION WHERE THEY HAVE A
12:22:50AM WATER VIEW.
12:22:52AM THEY ARE EITHER GOING TO BE IN A SMALL CONDO THAT'S BEING
12:22:55AM PROPOSED NOW OR A MUCH BIGGER ONE IF WE DON'T ALLOW IT.
12:22:58AM THANK YOU.
12:22:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:22:59AM THAT CONCLUDES THE FIRST SHEET OF SPEAKERS.
12:23:06AM LET'S DO THE TWO ONLINE FOLKS.
12:23:13AM THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ONLINE, I HAVE ONLY SANDY PEACEMAN IS
12:23:19AM THE -- OH, AND LORRAINE PERINO.
12:23:25AM >> SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
12:23:27AM SANDY PEACEMAN IS PART OF OUR TEAM.
12:23:29AM HE COULDN'T MAKE IT HERE TODAY.
12:23:31AM HE DOESN'T NEED TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
12:23:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
12:23:34AM WE HAVE LORRAINE PERINO.
12:23:36AM IF YOU ARE ONLINE, UNMUTE YOURSELF, TURN ON YOUR CAMERA,
12:23:39AM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
12:23:41AM MS. PERINO, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND
12:24:11AM AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
12:24:13AM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE
12:24:15AM ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
12:24:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
12:24:21AM MS. PERINO, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
12:24:36AM WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
12:24:39AM >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
12:24:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:24:42AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:24:42AM GO AHEAD.
12:24:43AM >> GOOD EVENING.
12:24:44AM I'M LORRAINE PERINO, PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA TREE ADVOCACY
12:24:49AM GROUP.
12:24:49AM I WANT TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST FOR
12:24:52AM THE MIAMI DEVELOPER THE RELATED GROUP.
12:24:54AM 2021, BAY OAKS PROPERTY, 4% TREE RETENTION.
12:24:58AM RELATED GROUP WON APPROVAL FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA TO REMOVE
12:25:01AM 32 PROTECTED OAK TREES.
12:25:03AM VALUE OF THE OAKS WHICH ARE ON THE CUSP OF BECOMING GRAND
12:25:07AM OAKS FROM THE BAY OAKS PROPERTY INCLUDING TWO GRAND OAKS.
12:25:11AM RELATED ALSO ATTEMPTED TO REMOVE A RIGHT-OF-WAY GRAND OAK
12:25:14AM ACROSS THE STREET WHICH EVEN WASN'T ON ITS PROPERTY.
12:25:17AM 76 TREES FROM THE PROPERTY.
12:25:20AM 2022 MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE, BEHIND THE BAY OAKS PROPERTY,
12:25:24AM 4% TREE RETENTION.
12:25:26AM RELATED GROUP RECEIVED PERMISSION FROM THE CITY TO REMOVE 21
12:25:29AM PROTECTED OAKS FROM THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING ONE GRAND OAK.
12:25:33AM 2023, LAFAYETTE TOWER PROJECT, PARKER STREET, ZERO PERCENT
12:25:38AM TREE RETENTION, RELATED TOWER PROJECT GRANTED A SECOND
12:25:42AM REZONING PERMIT ALLOWING TREES ON THE PROPERTY REDUCED FROM
12:25:45AM 50% TO 100%.
12:25:48AM RELATED PLANS TO REMOVE SEVEN RIGHT-OF-WAY PROTECTED TREES
12:25:51AM ON PARKER STREET.
12:25:53AM 2024, BAYSHORE SYNAGOGUE PROPERTY, 50% PROPOSED TREE
12:25:57AM RETENTION.
12:25:58AM IF THE CITY ALLOWS CURRENT REZONING REQUEST BY RELATED TO
12:26:02AM INSERT THE MASSIVELY INAPPROPRIATE 26-STORY HIGH-RISE TOWER
12:26:07AM IN AN AREA THAT IS ZONED FOR MEDIUM DENSITY ONLY, THE
12:26:10AM RELATED GROUP WILL REMOVE AN ADDITIONAL 22 PROTECTED OAK
12:26:14AM TREES, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 8 TREES, RESULTING IN A GRAND
12:26:17AM TOTAL OF 31 TREES REMOVED.
12:26:18AM IN PURSUING AN AGGRESSIVE AGENDA OF UNBRIDLED DEVELOPMENT
12:26:20AM AND EVER-INCREASING WEALTH, FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS IN A
12:26:24AM ROW, THE RELATED GROUP HAS BEEN PERMITTED TO DESTROY LARGE
12:26:26AM NUMBERS OF TAMPA TREES UNTIL TO DATE IT HAS NOW REMOVED 104
12:26:32AM OF TAMPA'S TREES, INCLUDING 60 OF TAMPA'S MOST VALUABLE
12:26:35AM TREES, GRAND OAK PROTECTED OAKS.
12:26:38AM THAT IS A HUGELY SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TREES REMOVED FROM A
12:26:41AM CITY WHOSE TREE CANOPY HAS ALREADY DECREASED BY 4% IN THE
12:26:45AM LAST FIVE YEARS, 18% IN SOUTH TAMPA ALONE.
12:26:48AM BUT WAIT, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
12:26:50AM WITH THE 22 PROTECTED OAKS THAT RELATED WANTS TO REMOVE FROM
12:26:53AM THE BAYSHORE PROPERTY PLUS THE ADDITIONAL EIGHT TREES, THE
12:26:57AM NUMBER OF TREES THAT RELATED WILL HAVE REMOVED FROM ALL OF
12:26:59AM THESE PROPERTIES WILL BE A GRAND TOTAL OF 134 TREES.
12:27:03AM AND THE NUMBER OF GRAND TREES AND PROTECTED TREES REMOVED
12:27:06AM WILL BE A GRAND TOTAL OF 82 OF TAMPA'S MOST VALUABLE OAK
12:27:11AM TREES.
12:27:12AM RELATED HAS PROVED TO BE A ONE MAN TREE KILLING MACHINE WHEN
12:27:15AM IT COMES TO REMOVING A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF TAMPA'S TREE
12:27:19AM CANOPY.
12:27:20AM RELATED'S RECORD IS TRULY APPALLING.
12:27:22AM IF THIS REZONING IS APPROVED, NOT ONLY ADVANCE THE
12:27:25AM DECIMATION OF THE TREE CANOPY, ALSO RUIN THE TAMPA GARDEN
12:27:29AM CLUB PRIMARY SOURCE OF INCOME.
12:27:32AM THIS REZONING REQUEST IS A NONSTARTER ON SO MANY LEVELS.
12:27:36AM TOO HIGH DENSITY FOR THE AREA.
12:27:37AM TOO MANY TREES DESTROYED BY ONE DEVELOPER ALONE.
12:27:40AM TOO HIGH A DENSITY FOR COASTAL HIGH HAZARD DISTRICT.
12:27:43AM HOW MANY MORE OF TAMPA'S TREES IS THE CITY WILLING TO ALLOW
12:27:47AM RELATED TO DESTROY IN THE NAME OF PROGRESS.
12:27:50AM PLEASE DENY THIS ZONING REQUEST.
12:27:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:27:53AM WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 20-MINUTES RECESS SO WE CAN BRING UP
12:27:56AM THE NEXT WAVE OF PEOPLE.
12:27:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MS. EDWARDS, WITH REGARD TO THE PEOPLE WHO
12:28:01AM ARE PRESENT IN THE ROOM NOW, COULD YOU GO TO THE
12:28:05AM MICROPHONE --
12:28:08AM >> THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PRESENT IN THE ROOM NOW, THEY HAVE
12:28:10AM ALREADY SPOKEN.
12:28:11AM I KNOW WE DO HAVE SOME THAT NEED TO STAY IN THE ROOM.
12:28:16AM THOSE WHO HAVE SPOKEN, IF THEY CAN EXIT AND GO DOWN TO
12:28:20AM EITHER THE SECOND FLOOR OR THE FIRST FLOOR BECAUSE I DO NOT
12:28:22AM HAVE ENOUGH SEATS IF THEY STAY.
12:28:24AM THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN HERE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE
12:28:26AM IN THE THIRD WAVE.
12:28:28AM I'M NOT TRYING TO BE RUDE OR DISRESPECTFUL BUT I DO NEED THE
12:28:31AM SEATS FOR THE SECOND WAVE OF FOLKS.
12:28:34AM IF I DO HAVE TO ASK THEM TO STEP OUTSIDE, IT'S BECAUSE THEIR
12:28:37AM NUMBER HASN'T COME UP YET.
12:28:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:28:40AM WE ARE IN RECESS FOR 20 MINUTES.
12:28:41AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:59:46AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
12:59:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:59:47AM GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
12:59:48AM WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
12:59:50AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
12:59:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
12:59:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
12:59:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
12:59:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
12:59:59AM >> VIERA?
1:00:00AM MIRANDA?
1:00:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
1:00:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
1:00:02AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:00:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:00:05AM WELCOME TO THE NEW GROUP OF SPEAKERS.
1:00:08AM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
1:00:12AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING, WE NEED TO SWEAR YOU IN.
1:00:15AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR
1:00:17AM RIGHT HAND.
1:00:18AM LET'S SWEAR THEM IN.
1:00:23AM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE
1:00:25AM ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
1:00:28AM >> YES.
1:00:28AM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
1:00:29AM YOU MAY BE SEATED.
1:00:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
1:00:31AM WE'LL CONTINUE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
1:00:33AM SPEAKER NUMBER 21 IS SCOTT MECKLEY WHO HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER
1:00:38AM FORM WITH FOUR PEOPLE.
1:00:39AM MR. MECKLEY, IF YOU COULD PLEASE GIVE THE FORM TO OUR
1:00:43AM ATTORNEY AND HE WILL READ OFF THE NAMES ON YOUR FORM.
1:00:53AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE MAKE YOUR PRESENCE KNOWN.
1:00:55AM NADINE APPLETON.
1:00:56AM MARTO WATSON.
1:00:58AM RICHARD MILLER.
1:01:00AM >> HERE UNTIL SUNRISE.
1:01:01AM [ LAUGHTER ]
1:01:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GRACE KELLY.
1:01:05AM THANK YOU.
1:01:07AM WE HAVE FOUR NAMES, FOUR ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF
1:01:10AM SEVEN.
1:01:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:01:14AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE SEVEN MINUTES.
1:01:18AM >> GOOD MORNING.
1:01:19AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
1:01:20AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL MECKLEY.
1:01:21AM MY ADDRESS IS 2715 WEST JETTON, WHICH IS A SHORT WALK TO
1:01:27AM BAYSHORE.
1:01:28AM LIVED THERE 35 YEARS.
1:01:29AM ON AVERAGE, I'M ON BAYSHORE THREE TO FOUR TIMES A WEEK,
1:01:32AM EITHER DRIVING, WALKING, OR BIKING.
1:01:34AM I'M IN FAVOR OF DEVELOPMENT IN OUR CITY, SUPPORT OUR
1:01:37AM POPULATION GROWTH, AND PROVIDE SUITABLE HOUSING FOR THE
1:01:39AM PEOPLE WHO WORK AND LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
1:01:42AM I WANT THE SYNAGOGUE TO REMAIN AND THRIVE IN ITS CURRENT
1:01:45AM LOCATION.
1:01:45AM AT THE SAME TIME, I WANT THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB TO REMAIN AND
1:01:48AM THRIVE IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION.
1:01:49AM WHAT I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF IS MAKING EXCEPTIONS TO ALLOW
1:01:53AM NONCOMPATIBLE USES THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACT A SURROUNDING
1:01:58AM AREA, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE EXCEPTIONS ARE FOR THE BENEFIT OF
1:02:01AM A FEW UBER WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS.
1:02:05AM I'M ALSO NOT IN FAVOR OF MAKING EXCEPTION TO THE BENEFIT OF
1:02:08AM ONE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, IN THIS CASE, THE SYNAGOGUE, TO
1:02:10AM THE DETRIMENT OF ANOTHER COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION, THE GARDEN
1:02:13AM CLUB.
1:02:13AM THIS APPLICATION INVOLVES A SIMPLE ISSUE, THE HEIGHT AND
1:02:17AM SCALE OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING AND HOW IT COLLIDES WITH THE
1:02:21AM LAST LARGE CONTIGUOUS GREENSPACE LEFT ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
1:02:25AM THIS POCKET, YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
1:02:28AM THIS POCKET FROM BAY TO BAY TO FRED BALL PARK, IT'S UNIQUE.
1:02:32AM IT'S DIFFERENT.
1:02:33AM IT'S SPECIAL.
1:02:34AM AND IT SHOULD NOT BE LUMPED IN WITH THE REST OF BAYSHORE
1:02:37AM BOULEVARD.
1:02:39AM WHEN EVALUATING THIS APPLICATION, THE HEIGHT AND SCALE OF
1:02:42AM THE BUILDING I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING:
1:02:47AM WHEN REFERENCING BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE
1:02:49AM PLAN INDICATES THE BALANCE OF PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, THE
1:02:52AM PUBLIC REALM AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT ALONG BAYSHORE
1:02:55AM BOULEVARD IS LIKE NO OTHER THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
1:02:59AM OBJECTIVE 20.4 REQUIRES THE CITY TO CONTINUE TO PRESERVE AND
1:03:03AM ENHANCE THE BALANCE OF THE NATURAL AND PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENTS
1:03:06AM ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
1:03:08AM YOU'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE.
1:03:10AM DON'T BE TRICKED INTO THINKING THIS REQUEST AND ITS
1:03:15AM COMPATIBILITY IS SIMILAR TO OTHER PRIOR APPLICATIONS ALONG
1:03:18AM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
1:03:19AM IT'S NOT.
1:03:20AM OF ANYTHING ALONG BAYSHORE, THIS POCKET THAT YOU'VE HEARD
1:03:25AM PEOPLE TALK ABOUT FROM BAY TO BAY TO FRED BALL, BETWEEN
1:03:29AM YSABELLA AND BAYSHORE BEST EMBODIES WHAT THE TAMPA
1:03:32AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TRIES TO ARTICULATE.
1:03:34AM I DON'T THINK ANYTHING BETTER REFLECTS THE HARMONIOUS
1:03:38AM BALANCE THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR.
1:03:41AM EXPANSIVE GREENSPACE WITH LOW-RISE BUILDINGS, INCLUDING THE
1:03:44AM ICONIC SYNAGOGUE AND THE ICONIC TAMPA GARDEN CLUB SURROUNDED
1:03:48AM BY AN OLD CITY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SIMILAR LOW-RISE BUILDINGS.
1:03:53AM WE'RE NOT RUNNING OUT OF PLACES TO BUILD IN THIS CORRIDOR.
1:03:58AM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INCLUDES A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF
1:04:00AM UNDEVELOPED MEDIUM AND HIGH DENSITY PARCELS IN THIS AREA.
1:04:04AM WE DON'T NEED TO ADD DENSITY ON R 35 PARCELS.
1:04:08AM THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS NO DEFINITION OF
1:04:12AM SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD OR SURROUNDING AREA OR A
1:04:17AM NEIGHBORHOOD, SO THE APPLICANT USES A LARGE AREA WHILE THOSE
1:04:21AM IN OPPOSITION, LIKE ME, USE A NARROW FOCUS.
1:04:23AM WE'VE HEARD THIS COME UP.
1:04:25AM MY POINT HERE IS SINCE THERE IS NO DEFINITION IT SEEMS YOU
1:04:28AM HAVE THE LATITUDE TO DETERMINE THIS DEFINITION ON A
1:04:33AM CASE-BY-CASE BASIS BASED ON THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES AT
1:04:37AM HAND, WHICH IN THIS CASE IS THIS SPECIAL UNIQUE POCKET THAT
1:04:41AM IS DISPLAYED HERE.
1:04:42AM OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED THIS, MOVING ON TO THE DEVELOPMENT,
1:04:47AM I'M HAVING A CASE OF D J VU.
1:04:50AM ONE OF THESE MODELS IS THE PRIOR APPLICATION.
1:04:56AM THE OTHER ONE IS THIS APPLICATION.
1:04:59AM THE PRIOR APPLICATION WAS DENIED 6-0.
1:05:04AM WHILE WE ALL APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT REMOVING THE WAIVERS
1:05:07AM REQUESTED BACK IN MAY 2023, LET'S LOOK AT THE SCALE AND THE
1:05:11AM DENSITY OF THE CURRENT APPLICATION COMPARED TO THE PRIOR
1:05:13AM ONE.
1:05:14AM HEIGHT.
1:05:14AM THERE IS A TON OF NUMBERS BEING THROWN AROUND.
1:05:17AM THE ONES I SAW WERE 354 AND 349 WHICH IS A FIVE FOOT
1:05:21AM DIFFERENCE, PRETTY WELL DISPLAYED RIGHT HERE.
1:05:23AM TOTAL SQUARE FEET, WE HEARD THIS BEFORE, 275 IN MAY, STILL
1:05:27AM 275.
1:05:28AM I'M A CPA, 275 MINUS 275 IS A CHANGE OF 0.
1:05:32AM DENSITY, THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AND LOT COVERAGE LAST MAY
1:05:36AM WAS 53.9 AND NOW IT'S 49.8, THAT'S AN 8% DECREASE.
1:05:42AM AS IT WAS WITH THE MAY 2023 APPLICATION, THE REASON THE
1:05:46AM SCALE AND SIZE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS SO OFFENSIVE IS NOT
1:05:50AM COMPLICATED.
1:05:50AM IT'S BECAUSE THE UNITS ARE GOING TO AVERAGE OVER 5,000 FEET.
1:05:54AM THEY SAID 4500 TO 500, IF IT'S 42 UNITS AT 5,000, THAT'S
1:06:00AM 210,000.
1:06:01AM THIS IS 275, SOMEWHERE WE LOST 65,000.
1:06:05AM WE DEFINITELY NEED MORE HOUSING IN TAMPA, BUT THE HOUSING WE
1:06:07AM NEED IS WORKFORCE HOUSING, NOT RICH PEOPLE HOUSING.
1:06:10AM A FINAL IMPORTANT POINT, BY THE WAY, THIS IS THE NEW
1:06:15AM DEVELOPMENT.
1:06:16AM THIS IS THE OLD ONE.
1:06:17AM YOU CAN SEE THEY SHRUNK THE BOTTOM A LITTLE TO GET RID OF
1:06:20AM THE WAIVERS AND THEY HAD TO ADD AN EXTRA FLOOR OF PARKING IN
1:06:23AM THERE.
1:06:25AM A FINAL IMPORTANT POINT AND THIS HAS COME UP, TOO, THE
1:06:28AM APPLICANT COMPLETELY IGNORED THE INPUT OF THE SURROUNDING
1:06:31AM NEIGHBORS AS IT RELATES TO HEIGHT AND SCALE OF THE
1:06:33AM DEVELOPMENT.
1:06:34AM THIS WAS A SIGNIFICANT OBJECTION THAT WAS TOTALLY DISMISSED
1:06:36AM IN THE NAME OF PROFIT.
1:06:38AM YES, THEY ELIMINATED THE WAIVERS, WHICH WERE OBJECTIONABLE
1:06:42AM TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS AND MANY OTHERS, BUT OTHERWISE,
1:06:46AM THEIR ENGAGEMENT, HERE IS THEIR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE
1:06:49AM COMMUNITY.
1:06:49AM THE HEIGHT AND SCALE IS NON-NEGOTIABLE.
1:06:52AM THAT'S NOT WHAT I CALL LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:06:54AM THEY DID NOT LISTEN TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS OR THE
1:06:59AM COMMUNITY.
1:06:59AM THEY REMOVED THE WAIVERS FOR OPTICS AND IGNORED THE
1:07:02AM CRITICALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY,
1:07:06AM SCALE, AND IMPACT.
1:07:07AM FROM EVERY STANDPOINT, THE REQUESTED CHANGE IS NEGATIVE TO
1:07:11AM THE SURROUNDING AREA.
1:07:12AM THE BURDEN IS ON THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE COMPETENT
1:07:16AM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND AMONG OTHER THINGS THE PROPOSED
1:07:18AM DEVELOPMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
1:07:21AM CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY CODE, COMPATIBLE WITH THE
1:07:23AM SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND OVERALL SITE DESIGN AND SCALE,
1:07:26AM PROVIDES AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITION INTO THE SURROUNDING
1:07:29AM NEIGHBORHOOD, IS CONSISTENT IN CHARACTER WITH THE
1:07:32AM SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND DOES NOT SUBSTANTIALLY
1:07:34AM INTERFERE OR INJURE THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS.
1:07:37AM YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT ALL THAT TONIGHT.
1:07:39AM THE APPLICANTS FAILED TO PROVIDE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
1:07:42AM EVIDENCE RELATED TO ANY OF THESE.
1:07:44AM I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THE MOTION YOU APPROVED TO DENY 6-0
1:07:50AM LAST TIME IN MAY 2023 INCLUDED SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ON THESE
1:07:55AM EXACT SAME ITEMS.
1:07:56AM AND THE FACTS AS IT RELATES TO THESE ITEMS HAS NOT CHANGED
1:07:59AM SINCE THE LAST APPLICATION.
1:08:01AM LASTLY, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE CITY STAFF LAST TIME,
1:08:05AM OTHER THAN NATURAL RESOURCES, WHICH HAD TO DO WITH THE
1:08:08AM TREES, FOUND THE MAY 2023 APPLICATION CONSISTENT WHEN YOU
1:08:12AM DENIED IT 6-0.
1:08:15AM TO GO AGAINST THE CITY STAFF AGAIN WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH
1:08:19AM YOUR MAY 2023 VOTE.
1:08:21AM PLEASE PRESERVE THE AREA AND REPRESENT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY
1:08:25AM BY DENYING THIS APPLICATION.
1:08:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
1:08:30AM [ APPLAUSE ]
1:08:30AM NO, NO, NO.
1:08:32AM NO CLAPPING.
1:08:33AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
1:08:34AM THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MARCY BAKER.
1:08:37AM NUMBER 22.
1:08:39AM IF YOU HAVE YOUR TICKET.
1:08:41AM OH, NEVER MIND.
1:08:42AM THEY TOOK THE BASKET AWAY.
1:08:45AM ALL RIGHT.
1:08:47AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:08:48AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
1:08:49AM >> HELLO.
1:08:49AM MY NAME IS MARCY BAKER.
1:08:51AM I LIVE RIGHT ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AT 610 WEST SWANN AVENUE.
1:08:58AM I'VE BEEN A MEMBER OF RODEPH SHOLOM ENTIRE LIFE.
1:09:02AM BAT MITZVAH AND MARRIED THERE.
1:09:05AM AS SYNAGOGUE MEMBER AND PAST PRESIDENT I'M EXCITED FOR THE
1:09:09AM DEAL WITH RELATED TO HELP ENSURE THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL
1:09:12AM FUTURE OF RODEPH SHOLOM SO THAT MY DAUGHTER WILL BE ABLE TO
1:09:14AM BE MARRIED THERE.
1:09:16AM AS A BAYSHORE RESIDENT, I AM HAPPY TO LEARN THAT THIS
1:09:19AM DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WILL RESULT IN SIGNIFICANTLY LESS
1:09:23AM TRAFFIC THAT ACCOMPANIES THE CURRENT JCC LOCATED ON RODEPH'S
1:09:29AM PROPERTY.
1:09:29AM THE PRESCHOOL WILL BE RELOCATED WHEN THIS PROJECT IS BUILT.
1:09:33AM AS YOU ALREADY HEARD, WE HAVE 130 STUDENTS IN THAT
1:09:36AM PRESCHOOL.
1:09:37AM MUCH OF THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ARE CAUSED
1:09:39AM BY OVERFLOW FROM DROP-OFF AND PICKUP AND TRAFFIC FROM THE
1:09:44AM PRESCHOOL.
1:09:45AM ALSO, I UNDERSTAND RELATED HAS COMMITTED TO SIGNIFICANTLY
1:09:48AM IMPROVED FRED BALL PARK AND OTHER BENEFITS TO THE GREATER
1:09:52AM NEIGHBORHOOD SUCH AS SIDEWALKS AND LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS.
1:09:55AM WE'VE ALREADY SEEN PICTURES OF WHERE THERE'S NOT VERY MANY
1:09:58AM SIDEWALKS IN THE AREA.
1:09:59AM SOME OF THE BENEFITS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDE REPAVING
1:10:03AM YSABELLA AND BARCELONA, ADDING CROSSWALKS TO THE SENIOR --
1:10:08AM SO SENIOR LIVING RESIDENTS CAN SAFELY GET TO FRED BALL PARK.
1:10:11AM I'M THRILLED TO HEAR RELATED IS DONATING MONEY TO UPGRADE A
1:10:15AM CITY ASSET THAT HAS BEEN NEGLECTED TOO LONG AND THAT'S FRED
1:10:19AM BALL PARK.
1:10:20AM LAST BUT NOT LEAST, HAVING LIVED IN TAMPA FOR OVER 50 YEARS,
1:10:24AM I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE GROWTH THAT IS HAPPENING AND
1:10:29AM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IS A DESIRABLE LOCATION.
1:10:31AM ANYTHING THAT GETS BUILT MOVING FORWARD WILL BE ADJACENT TO
1:10:34AM SOMEONE.
1:10:34AM IF A DEVELOPER DOES THEIR BEST TO ADDRESS ALL REASONABLE
1:10:38AM NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS, SHOULDN'T THAT BE LOOKED UPON
1:10:40AM FAVORABLY?
1:10:40AM WHY WOULD THIS BUILDING THAT PRESERVES A HISTORICAL
1:10:44AM SYNAGOGUE ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD NOT GET THE SAME APPROVAL
1:10:48AM THAT SO MANY OTHER BUILDINGS ON BAYSHORE HAVE GOTTEN?
1:10:52AM THANK YOU.
1:10:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:10:53AM NEXT IS LORI RABINOWITZ, NUMBER 23.
1:10:59AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:11:04AM >> MY NAME IS LORI RABINOWITZ.
1:11:07AM I'M A MEMBER OF CONGREGATION RODEPH SHOLOM.
1:11:09AM I CURRENTLY SERVE ON ITS EXECUTIVE BOARD.
1:11:12AM THROUGHOUT THE EVENING AND MORNING, I'VE HEARD THE QUESTION,
1:11:17AM WHAT IS THIS PROJECT GOING TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY?
1:11:20AM THE PLAN IS JUST AS MUCH A WIN FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS IT IS
1:11:25AM FOR OUR SYNAGOGUE.
1:11:27AM NOT ONLY DOES THIS PLAN SAVE OUR PLACE OF WORSHIP, BUT IT
1:11:31AM WILL GENERATE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, IF NOT MORE
1:11:36AM IN PROPERTY TAXES THAT WILL GO DIRECTLY TO IMPROVE THE
1:11:41AM CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE.
1:11:42AM WE NEED TO EMBRACE THE GROWTH OF OUR COMMUNITY.
1:11:45AM THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT, I'VE HEARD PEOPLE WANTING SIDEWALKS,
1:11:50AM TALKING ABOUT MORE FIREFIGHTERS, MORE POLICE, AND MORE
1:11:54AM WATER.
1:11:56AM PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH NO
1:11:59AM SOLUTIONS, AND THIS PROPOSAL GENERATES REVENUE FOR THE CITY.
1:12:03AM AND THE RELATED GROUP DID LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS
1:12:08AM AND HAS SINCE COME UP WITH A REVISED PLAN TO REMOVE ALL
1:12:12AM PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED WAIVERS, PRESERVE ALL PLANNED OAK TREES
1:12:19AM AND REMOVE THE PROPOSED PICKLEBALL COURT ALL OF WHICH SHOWED
1:12:23AM GENERAL RESPECT AND CONSIDERATION FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
1:12:26AM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS ON THE FURTHEST POINT AWAY FROM
1:12:30AM THE GARDEN CLUB WITH THE SYNAGOGUE BEING ADJACENT TO THE
1:12:33AM GARDEN CLUB.
1:12:34AM WE DON'T SEE THIS TO AFFECT THE GARDEN CLUB'S BUSINESS.
1:12:40AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU VOTE IN
1:12:44AM FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.
1:12:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
1:12:47AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:12:47AM THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ITEM -- OR PERSON NUMBER 24, KEENAN
1:12:54AM POOLE.
1:12:55AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:13:06AM >> MY NAME IS KEENAN POOLE.
1:13:08AM AND I RESIDE AT 3203 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, COMMONLY KNOWN AS
1:13:15AM THE STOVALL CONDO BUILDING.
1:13:17AM WHAT THE RELATED GROUP HAS DONE TO OUR BUILDING IS A
1:13:21AM TRAVESTY.
1:13:22AM THEY HAVE OVERBUILT THAT STRUCTURE AND CREATED A CONCRETE
1:13:26AM JUNGLE THAT CITY PLANNING AND ZONING APPROVED.
1:13:30AM WITH THE APPROVAL OF THREE OF THE PRESENT COUNCILMEN.
1:13:35AM WE ARE OUTRAGED BY YOUR BEHAVIOR.
1:13:37AM TOTALLY.
1:13:39AM WE PUT UP WITH CONCRETE OVER SPRING TWICE.
1:13:43AM OUR CARS AND OUR BUILDING.
1:13:45AM OUR BUILDING HAS TO BE REPAINTED DUE TO THE NEGLIGENCE OF
1:13:49AM THE RELATED GROUP AND COASTAL CONSTRUCTION.
1:13:53AM YOU ALLOWED 22 TREES TO BE BULLDOZED OVER AND 8 GRAND OAKS
1:14:00AM TO BE REMOVED.
1:14:02AM WHERE WERE THE ENVIRONMENTALISTS?
1:14:03AM WHERE WERE THE TREE HUGGERS?
1:14:04AM WE WERE LEFT ALONE AND ABANDONED.
1:14:07AM YOU PEOPLE THOUGHT YOU COULD RUN OVER A BUNCH OF OLD PEOPLE.
1:14:10AM I'M YOUNG AND I'M HERE TO FIGHT FOR THEM.
1:14:13AM ALSO, I'M A LITTLE DISMAYED ABOUT THE TEMPLE.
1:14:19AM WHERE IN THE SCULPTURES ARE THEY OBSERVING THE COMMANDMENT
1:14:23AM LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF.
1:14:26AM THEY ARE SETTLING FOR THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR.
1:14:29AM I'M A RETIRED CPA.
1:14:31AM GIVE ME YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND YOUR TAX RETURNS AND I
1:14:33AM WILL SCHOOL YOU ON HOW TO LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS.
1:14:37AM I WILL TEACH YOU PROPER BUDGETING MEASURES THAT YOU CAN
1:14:42AM EXEMPLIFY AND NOT COME HERE AND CRY THE POOR.
1:14:48AM I'M DONE.
1:14:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:14:50AM NEXT SPEAKER IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT WHO HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER
1:14:56AM FORM.
1:15:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANNELIESE MEIER.
1:15:31AM >> HERE.
1:15:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NANCY CRISWELL.
1:15:34AM THANK YOU.
1:15:35AM SHERYL SMITH.
1:15:36AM THANK YOU.
1:15:36AM CJ SMITH.
1:15:38AM THANK YOU.
1:15:39AM MIKE FANNING.
1:15:42AM AND IS MIKE McNABB HERE?
1:15:45AM >> HERE.
1:15:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. McNABB, WHERE ARE YOU?
1:15:48AM DID YOU SPEAK EARLIER?
1:15:49AM ON A DIFFERENT ITEM.
1:15:52AM IT'S BEEN A LONG NIGHT.
1:15:54AM THANK YOU.
1:15:54AM I'M JUST ASKING.
1:16:10AM >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
1:16:12AM LIFE LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
1:16:14AM THIS CITATION WAS PRESENTED BY GINA GRIMES AT A FLUEDRA
1:16:18AM HEARING.
1:16:19AM IT HAS NEVER BEEN THE LAW THAT A LANDOWNER IS ALWAYS
1:16:21AM ENTITLED TO THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THEIR LAND.
1:16:24AM LANDOWNERS ARE GUARANTEED REASONABLE USE OF THEIR LAND AND
1:16:28AM REASONABLE USE DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT YOU CAN BUILD EVERY
1:16:31AM CONCEIVABLE CONCOCTION.
1:16:33AM PLEASE LOOK AT PAGE TWO OF MY HANDOUT.
1:16:35AM THIS PROPERTY IS R 35.
1:16:38AM IT HAS A MEDIUM DENSITY LAND USE.
1:16:41AM THEY ARE ASKING FOR A HEIGHT THAT IS EVEN TALLER THAN A
1:16:44AM HIGH-DENSITY LAND USE.
1:16:46AM ON PAGE 134 OF THE COMP PLAN IT SAYS HIGH DENSITY SHOULD BE
1:16:50AM UP TO 24 STORIES.
1:16:52AM SO EVEN FOR HIGH DENSITY, A 26-STORY TOWER IS TOO TALL.
1:16:58AM THE COMP PLAN CLEARLY STATES MEDIUM DENSITY IS UP TO 8
1:17:03AM STORIES.
1:17:04AM YOU KNOW WHAT THE COMP PLAN DOESN'T SAY?
1:17:06AM IT DOESN'T SAY THE DEVELOPER IS GUARANTEED 5,000 SQUARE FOOT
1:17:10AM CONDOS.
1:17:11AM IT DOESN'T SAY THEY ARE GUARANTEED FIVE AND SIX BEDROOMS.
1:17:14AM THE COMP PLAN DOES NOT SAY THE SKY IS THE LIMIT.
1:17:18AM THE COMP PLAN LANGUAGE IS PLAIN.
1:17:21AM UNFORTUNATELY, SOME PEOPLE ARE NOT PLAIN SPOKEN.
1:17:23AM THEY LIKE TO WIGGLE AROUND BETWEEN WORDS.
1:17:26AM THEY LIKE TO SAY WORDS DON'T MEAN WHAT YOU THINK THEY MEAN.
1:17:30AM CHILDREN LIKE TO DO THAT.
1:17:31AM TEENAGERS LIKE TO DO THAT.
1:17:32AM LAWYERS LIKE TO DO THAT.
1:17:35AM BUT PLAYING WORD GAMES DOESN'T CHANGE THE MEANING OF WORDS.
1:17:39AM I GREW UP WITH PARENTS WHO DIDN'T PLAY.
1:17:41AM I BET SOME OF YOU DID, TOO.
1:17:44AM IF MY FATHER TOLD ME UP TO TWO COOKIES, WE BOTH KNEW EXACTLY
1:17:48AM WHAT THAT MEANT.
1:17:50AM IT MEANT IF I TOOK THREE COOKIES I WASN'T GOING TO BE
1:17:53AM SITTING DOWN FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.
1:17:54AM MY FATHER WASN'T STUPID AND HE WASN'T TRICKED BY SLIPPERY
1:17:59AM TALK.
1:17:59AM LOOK AT PAGE THREE.
1:18:00AM THIS IS EVERY MULTIFAMILY ZONING CATEGORY ALLOWED IN R 35.
1:18:04AM LOOK AT THE NEXT PAGE.
1:18:06AM THE TALLEST MULTIFAMILY BUILDING THE COMP PLAN ENVISIONS FOR
1:18:10AM R 35 IS 60 FEET.
1:18:12AM I REPEAT, 60 FEET.
1:18:14AM THE COMP PLAN NEVER ENVISIONED A 26-STORY TOWER FOR R 35.
1:18:21AM THIS PROJECT IS ABSURDLY IN EXCESS OF THE 60 FEET OR 8
1:18:27AM STORIES THE COMP PLAN PLANNED FOR.
1:18:29AM THIS PD IS ONE GIANT WAIVER.
1:18:33AM I ASKED STAFF IF THEY THOUGHT 26 STORIES WAS CONSISTENT WITH
1:18:36AM R 35.
1:18:37AM THEY SAID IT IS NOT THEIR JOB TO DETERMINE IF THE HEIGHT IS
1:18:40AM CONSISTENT IN A PD.
1:18:42AM THEY SAID IT IS CITY COUNCIL'S JOB.
1:18:44AM THEIR JOB IS TO DETERMINE IF THE DENSITY IS CONSISTENT.
1:18:48AM READ THEIR REPORTS.
1:18:50AM NO STAFF REPORT SAYS 26 STORIES IS CONSISTENT OR COMPATIBLE
1:18:54AM WITH R-35.
1:18:56AM ERIC COTTON'S E-MAIL ABOUT THE EARLY RESUBMITTAL, HE SAYS
1:19:01AM THE ISSUE OF COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN THE HIGH-RISE AND
1:19:04AM SURROUNDING PROPERTIES CAN ONLY BE DETERMINED BY COUNCIL.
1:19:09AM STAFF DID NOT DETERMINE THIS.
1:19:10AM RELATED SAYS THIS IS THE SAME AS THE OTHER TOWERS ON
1:19:14AM BAYSHORE.
1:19:15AM THAT IS NOT TRUE.
1:19:16AM PLEASE LOOK AT PAGE 5 IN YOUR PACKET.
1:19:19AM YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE OTHER COMPLEX ON
1:19:22AM BAYSHORE WITH R-35 MEDIUM DENSITY, AND THAT ONE IS ONLY
1:19:26AM THREE STORIES HIGH.
1:19:28AM THREE STORIES.
1:19:30AM LOOK AT ITS DENSITY.
1:19:31AM THE DENSITY IS ACTUALLY GREATER THAN THIS PROJECT.
1:19:34AM GREATER DENSITY BUT ONLY THREE STORIES.
1:19:37AM THAT IS ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT YOU CAN BUILD DENSITY WITHIN
1:19:40AM HEIGHT LIMITS IF THE UNITS ARE SMALLER, WHICH MAKES THEM
1:19:44AM MORE AFFORDABLE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
1:19:46AM LOOK AT MY LIST.
1:19:48AM EVERY OTHER TOWER ON BAYSHORE HAS A HIGHER DENSITY LAND USE.
1:19:52AM EVERY SINGLE ONE.
1:19:54AM IN ADDITION, ALL OF THOSE, EXCEPT FOR RELATE'S OTHER
1:19:57AM PROJECT, THE RITZ CARLSON, IS SHORTER THAN THIS ONE.
1:20:01AM LOOK AT MY NEXT PAGE.
1:20:02AM THIS IS FROM RELATED'S EVIDENCE NOTEBOOK.
1:20:06AM EVERY PROJECT THEY CITE HAS A LAND USE DIFFERENT THAN R 35.
1:20:09AM THEY COULD NOT CITE EVEN ONE SIMILAR SIDES PROJECT WITH R
1:20:13AM 35.
1:20:14AM 26 STORIES IS NOT CHARACTERISTIC OF R 35.
1:20:17AM IT IS OUT OF CHARACTER.
1:20:19AM THE COMP PLAN SAYS YOU MUST NOT APPROVE A REZONING THAT IS
1:20:22AM OUT OF CHARACTER.
1:20:23AM YOU MUST ALSO EVALUATE THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF A
1:20:26AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:20:27AM THE STAFF REPORT CLEARLY STATES THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT
1:20:30AM PATTERN OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS 14.27 DWELLING UNITS PER
1:20:34AM ACRE ON R 35 PARCELS AND 16.12 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE ON R
1:20:39AM 83 PARCELS.
1:20:40AM A SHORTAGE OF ENORMOUS, OBSCENELY LUXURIOUS CONDOS THAT ARE
1:20:46AM BIGGER THAN MY TWO-STORY HOUSE IS NOT THE HOUSING CRISIS YOU
1:20:50AM NEED TO SOLVE.
1:20:52AM [ LAUGHTER ]
1:20:52AM I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU A PIECE OF PAPER LIKE THIS.
1:20:55AM EVERY TIME YOU HEAR SOMEONE SAY THE ONLY HOUSING THEY CAN
1:20:59AM FIND IS TOO EXPENSIVE, MAKE A MARK.
1:21:01AM EVERY TIME SOMEONE TELLS YOU THE ONLY HOUSING THEY CAN FIND
1:21:04AM IS TOO CHEAP, MAKE A MARK.
1:21:06AM EVERY TIME SOMEONE CAN'T FIND SOMETHING NICE ENOUGH, EVEN
1:21:09AM THOUGH THEY CAN PAY MORE, MAKE A MARK.
1:21:11AM KEEP THIS IN YOUR POCKET AND IN A MONTH SHOW IT TO ME.
1:21:14AM I BET IT WILL LOOK LIKE THIS.
1:21:18AM [ LAUGHTER ]
1:21:18AM RELATED SAYS THEY ARE SAVING GRAND TREES.
1:21:22AM WELL, IF I WANT TO KNOW WHAT SOMEONE WILL DO, I LOOK AT WHAT
1:21:26AM THEY HAVE DONE.
1:21:27AM THESE ARE SEVEN LARGE OAKS THAT ARE JUST OFF-SITE OF THE
1:21:33AM RELATED RITZ-CARLTON SITE BEFORE CONSTRUCTION.
1:21:37AM THEY ARE NOT ON RITZ PROPERTY.
1:21:39AM THESE ARE THOSE TREES TODAY.
1:21:43AM NO BARRIERS AROUND THE PROTECTED ROOT ZONE.
1:21:47AM HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND TRAILERS PARKED ON TOP OF ROOTS.
1:21:53AM A CODE ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT HAS BEEN FILED.
1:21:55AM THESE ARE OTHER OFF-SITE OAKS.
1:21:59AM YOU CAN SEE THE PROTECTIVE BARRIER WAS IGNORED.
1:22:06AM AT ONE POINT, RELATED ACTUALLY HAD PORT-A-POTTIES ON TOP OF
1:22:09AM THEIR ROOTS.
1:22:10AM YOU CAN SEE DAMAGE TO THE ROOTS FROM TRUCKS.
1:22:14AM A COMPLAINT WAS FILED AND A NEW BARRICADE WAS ERECTED.
1:22:18AM YOU CAN SEE IT DIDN'T LAST LONG EITHER.
1:22:20AM ANOTHER COMPLAINT WAS FILED.
1:22:22AM IT WAS ERECTED AGAIN.
1:22:25AM AS OF TUESDAY IT WAS STILL UP.
1:22:26AM RELATED SAID THEY WOULD PRESERVE TWO OAKS ON THE
1:22:31AM RITZ-CARLTON SITE.
1:22:33AM THEY PRUNED THIS GRAND TREE WITHOUT A PERMIT.
1:22:36AM AN ASSESSMENT OF THE DAMAGE FOUND THREE LIMBS WERE
1:22:39AM IMPROPERLY REMOVED AND WOUNDS ON MULTIPLE BRANCHES.
1:22:42AM IT IS UNKNOWN IF THE TREE WILL SURVIVE THIS DAMAGE.
1:22:45AM MORE RECENTLY, THE PROTECTIVE BARRIERS FOR GRAND OAKS AT THE
1:22:49AM RITZ SITE WERE REMOVED AND A TRENCH WAS DUG AROUND THEM.
1:22:54AM THE CITY INSPECTOR SAID TREE ROOTS WERE CUT.
1:22:57AM THERE WAS EROSION AND SEDIMENT VIOLATION, AND THE BARRICADES
1:23:01AM NEED TO BE REPLACED.
1:23:02AM RELATED SAYS THEY WILL PRESERVE THE GRAND TREES ON THIS NEW
1:23:06AM PROJECT.
1:23:07AM IF I WANT TO KNOW WHAT SOMEONE WILL DO, I LOOK AT WHAT THEY
1:23:10AM HAVE DONE.
1:23:11AM THESE ARE PICTURES OF THE DAMAGE DONE TO THE RITZ NEIGHBOR'S
1:23:16AM PROPERTY.
1:23:16AM SLURRY FLEW OFF THE TOP STORIES ON TO THEIR HOMES AND CARS.
1:23:23AM THERE IS THE CAR.
1:23:24AM THERE'S MORE OF THE HOUSE.
1:23:26AM THE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
1:23:29AM IMAGINE THIS LANDING ON A BRIDE DURING A WEDDING.
1:23:33AM THIS PORCH ROOF WAS SHEARED OFF WHEN A BIG PIECE OF PLYWOOD
1:23:40AM FLEW OFF ONE OF THE TOP STORIES.
1:23:42AM THESE ARE BAGS OF TRASH THE NEIGHBOR PICKED UP IN HER YARD.
1:23:46AM THIS IS THE EXAMPLE OF THE DEBRIS THAT ENDED UP IN THE BAY.
1:23:53AM THE CURRENT LANDOWNERS' FINANCIAL GOALS ARE NOT COMPETENT
1:23:59AM AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
1:24:00AM IT IS IRRELEVANT TO THIS HEARING, AND YOU CANNOT LEGALLY
1:24:03AM CONSIDER IT.
1:24:04AM THIS PROJECT INCREASES DENSITY IN THE CHHA.
1:24:07AM IT IS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
1:24:10AM IT IS OUT OF CHARACTER FOR MEDIUM DENSITY.
1:24:13AM IF YOU APPROVE THIS, YOU WILL BE CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF
1:24:17AM EVERY MEDIUM DENSITY PROPERTY IN THE CITY.
1:24:21AM YOU WILL BE VIOLATING WHAT THE COMP PLAN ENVISIONED FOR R
1:24:26AM 35.
1:24:27AM ENOUGH WITH THE PDs.
1:24:29AM ENOUGH WITH INCREASING DENSITY IN THE CHHA.
1:24:32AM GROW TAMPA RESPONSIBLY.
1:24:34AM JUST SAY NO TO STUPID GROWTH.
1:24:37AM THANK YOU.
1:24:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:24:38AM NEXT UP IS PAT CIMINO, NUMBER 27.
1:24:43AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
1:24:55AM >> GOOD EVENING OR GOOD MORNING.
1:24:57AM I'M PATRICK CIMINO, PRESIDENT OF HHPNA.
1:25:00AM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR DILIGENCE AND PERSEVERANCE.
1:25:04AM CARROLL ANN IS A VERY HARD ACT TO FOLLOW.
1:25:08AM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
1:25:09AM I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE A LOT WHAT SHE AND SCOTT MECKLEY
1:25:13AM SAID BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS AT THE HEART OF THE CONCERN FOR
1:25:17AM THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
1:25:18AM I'M VERY BOTHERED AND I KNOW COUNCIL HERE RECOMMENDED WE NOT
1:25:23AM FOCUS ON THE REPORT OR THE FACT THAT THIS WAS ALLOWED TO
1:25:28AM COME EARLY.
1:25:30AM AS SCOTT EXPLAINED, THIS HEIGHT, MASS, DENSITY, SCALE, IT'S
1:25:35AM THE SAME THING YOU ALL LOOKED AT IN MAY.
1:25:38AM UNLESS MY EYES ARE GOING BAD.
1:25:40AM SO WHY IS THIS BROUGHT BACK EARLY?
1:25:42AM WHAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR THAT?
1:25:44AM AND I THINK -- AND I HAVE NO DISRESPECT FOR THE PLANNING
1:25:48AM STAFF, BUT THEY ALSO DO A LOT OF WHAT THEY ARE TOLD FROM
1:25:51AM ABOVE.
1:25:51AM SO WE DON'T HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THEM.
1:25:55AM THEY TURN THIS 180 DEGREES AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE.
1:25:58AM THAT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.
1:25:59AM GUESS WHAT, WE THE TAX-PAYING CITIZENS DON'T TRUST THEM.
1:26:04AM SO WITH THAT SAID, I'LL MAKE YOUR LIFE EASY.
1:26:08AM MY BOARD RECOMMENDED YOU DENY THIS REQUEST.
1:26:10AM I RECOMMEND IT MYSELF.
1:26:12AM IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA, WHICH IS, IN
1:26:16AM FACT, AN HISTORIC PATCH, UNMARVELED IN ANY OTHER PLACE ON
1:26:23AM BAYSHORE.
1:26:23AM THIS MUCH GREENSPACE.
1:26:25AM THAT'S IT.
1:26:25AM UNIQUE.
1:26:26AM IT'S BEEN TOLD.
1:26:27AM BUT THAT HAS TO BE POINTED OUT.
1:26:29AM TWO, IT'S INCOMPATIBLE WITH OTHER PARTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD
1:26:32AM WHERE THERE IS HOUSING.
1:26:33AM THREE, THE MASS, SCALE, AND DENSITY ARE OUT OF PLACE.
1:26:37AM IT SHOULD BE EIGHT STORIES TOPS.
1:26:39AM EXCESSIVE IS NOT OPTIMAL.
1:26:42AM THEY DO NOT DESERVE THIS AND AS CARROLL ANN SAID, THIS IS
1:26:48AM NOT EVEN A CONSIDERATION FOR HARDSHIP, AND THAT'S BEING
1:26:51AM BROUGHT UP TONIGHT.
1:26:52AM YOU ALL CANNOT LOOK AT HARDSHIP.
1:26:54AM AND IT WOULD KIND OF BE EMBARRASSING TO DO THAT.
1:26:57AM NONETHELESS, IT'S NOT HARDSHIP.
1:26:58AM SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU DENY THIS AS YOU DID IN MAY
1:27:03AM UNANIMOUSLY.
1:27:03AM IT'S NOT CHANGED.
1:27:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
1:27:09AM NEXT WE HAVE DANA JASPER, WHO HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM WITH
1:27:14AM TWO PEOPLE.
1:27:14AM YES, MA'AM.
1:27:20AM PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR FORM TO THE ATTORNEY AND HE WILL READ OFF
1:27:24AM THE NAMES OF THE INDIVIDUALS.
1:27:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
1:27:36AM ALLISON MURRAY.
1:27:37AM TWO ADDITIONAL NAMES.
1:27:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FIVE MINUTES TOTAL.
1:27:42AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, MA'AM.
1:27:44AM >> I'M GOING TO BE USING ALL SLIDES HERE, JUST HAVE IT PUT
1:27:48AM UP FIRST.
1:27:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST STATE YOUR NAME BEFORE YOU SPEAK.
1:28:04AM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
1:28:05AM DANA JASPER, PRESIDENT BAYSHORE TOWN HOUSE HOMEOWNERS
1:28:10AM ASSOCIATION.
1:28:10AM I LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND I
1:28:12AM WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS EVENING REGARDING REASONS
1:28:15AM TO DENY THIS REZONING REQUEST. I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE
1:28:21AM RESIDENTIAL ENTRANCE DRIVEWAY.
1:28:22AM THE HEIGHT AND THE NUMBER OF STORIES AND HOW THIS HIGH-RISE
1:28:25AM IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:28:26AM FIRST LIKE TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE DEVELOPER'S PLANS
1:28:30AM AND THEIR GENERAL NOTES SECTION IN WHICH THEY STATE THAT ALL
1:28:33AM DEVELOPMENT ON-SITE IS TO COMPLY WITH ALL TECHNICAL
1:28:36AM STANDARDS.
1:28:36AM REFERRING YOU TO TAMPA ORDINANCE SECTION 22-291, THIS IS THE
1:28:42AM TRANSPORTATION TECHNICAL MANUAL, 2023 EDITION, WHICH HAS
1:28:47AM BEEN ADOPTED AS A FULL FORCE AND IN EFFECT.
1:28:51AM WITHIN THE TECHNICAL MANUAL ARE DESIGN STANDARDS,
1:28:53AM SPECIFICALLY DRIVEWAY DESIGNS FOR RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAYS THAT
1:28:57AM ACCESS LOCAL STREETS.
1:28:58AM AND I'M GOING TO BE REFERRING TO SPECIFICALLY FIGURE 2-10
1:29:01AM WHICH IS IN THE PACKET I GAVE TO YOU.
1:29:04AM FURTHER LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS DEEMED
1:29:07AM SOUTH YSABELLA AND WEST BARCELONA AS LOCAL STREETS.
1:29:10AM LOOKING AT FIGURE 2-10, YOU WILL SEE THAT IT IS A
1:29:14AM REQUIREMENT THAT A RESIDENTIAL DRIVEWAY BE A MINIMUM OF 25
1:29:18AM FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION.
1:29:20AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEVELOPER'S PLANS, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE
1:29:24AM RESIDENTIAL ENTRANCE IS A MERE 13 FEET FROM THE INTERSECTION
1:29:27AM OF BARCELONA AND YSABELLA, THEREFORE, IT DOES NOT MEET THE
1:29:30AM MINIMUM TECHNICAL REQUIREMENT.
1:29:32AM NEXT, I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO TAMPA ORDINANCE SECTION
1:29:35AM 27-227.
1:29:37AM THIS IS THE PERMITTED USES FOR A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
1:29:40AM IT DOES STATE THE TYPE OR TYPES OF LAND USES PERMITTED MUST
1:29:43AM BE CONSISTENT IN ALL RESPECTS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOT
1:29:47AM SOME, NOT MOST, BUT ALL.
1:29:49AM NEXT I SHOW YOU THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IN THIS, WE HAVE
1:29:53AM THE LAND USE CATEGORY MATRIX, SPECIFICALLY FOR RESIDENTIAL
1:29:57AM 35 MEDIUM DENSITY USES AND THE KEY CHARACTERISTICS.
1:30:01AM IT DOES SAY THAT BUILDING HEIGHTS ARE UP TO EIGHT STORIES
1:30:04AM FOR MEDIUM DENSITY.
1:30:05AM AT 26 STORIES, THIS BUILDING WOULD BE OVER THREE TIMES THE
1:30:09AM NUMBER OF STORIES AS SPECIFIED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR
1:30:12AM MEDIUM DENSITY.
1:30:13AM IN FACT, IT WOULD EXCEED EVEN THE 24 STORIES AS SPECIFIED
1:30:16AM FOR HIGH DENSITY.
1:30:17AM NEXT I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY NE
1:30:22AM 1.1-2.
1:30:24AM I WILL READ THIS IN ITS ENTIRETY.
1:30:26AM CONTINUE TO PROTECT AND ENHANCE SINGLE-FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS
1:30:29AM BY PROVIDING SENSITIVE TRANSITIONS BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS AND
1:30:34AM ADJOINING AREAS AND REQUIRE A NEW DEVELOPMENT BOTH PRIVATE
1:30:37AM AND PUBLIC TO RESPECT AND RESPOND TO THOSE EXISTING PHYSICAL
1:30:41AM CHARACTERISTICS, BUILDING, STREETSCAPES, OPEN SPACES AND
1:30:44AM CITY FORM THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL CHARACTER AND
1:30:47AM LIVEABILITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:30:49AM THIS IS A GRAPH I PUT TOGETHER IN WHICH I WANTED TO
1:30:55AM DEMONSTRATE TO YOU THE DIFFERENCE IN HEIGHTS FOR THE
1:30:57AM BUILDINGS THAT ARE ON YSABELLA, THIS IS THE GARDEN CENTER,
1:31:01AM THE SYNAGOGUE, THE FOUR-STORY AND TWO-STORY TOWNHOMES.
1:31:03AM THE ONE-STORY WOMEN'S CLUB AND TWO-STORY OFFICE BUILDING.
1:31:07AM THIS IS IN HIGH CONTRAST TO A 317-FOOT HIGH-RISE THAT IS
1:31:11AM PROPOSED.
1:31:11AM ONE OF THE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER.
1:31:14AM ONE OF THESE THINGS DOES NOT BELONG.
1:31:16AM [ LAUGHTER ]
1:31:16AM THE PRIOR POLICY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DISCUSSED
1:31:23AM SENSITIVE TRANSITIONS.
1:31:24AM THAT IS A SENSITIVE TRANSITION.
1:31:27AM THAT IS NOT A SENSITIVE TRANSITION.
1:31:32AM NEXT I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS WHY THIS 26 STORY HIGH-RISE IS NOT
1:31:36AM COMPATIBLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:31:37AM THE NAME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS CALLED BAYSHORE GARDENS.
1:31:41AM THAT NAME SAYS IT ALL.
1:31:42AM IT IS A NAME THAT EVOKES IMAGES OF GREENERY AND OPEN SPACES,
1:31:46AM NOT TOWERING HIGH-RISES.
1:31:48AM I LIVE LESS THAN 200 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED HIGH-RISE.
1:31:51AM WEEKLY I WALK 20 MILES FROM MY HOME DOWN YSABELLA AVENUE
1:31:54AM THROUGH FRED BALL PARK AND ALL -- BAYSHORE GARDENS.
1:31:59AM I HAVE A VERY PERSONAL BOOTS ON THE GROUND PERSPECTIVE OF MY
1:32:02AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:32:02AM I REGULARLY ENGAGE WITH NEIGHBORS.
1:32:05AM MEANINGFUL CHANCE ENCOUNTERS AT THE GROUND LEVEL, WHETHER
1:32:08AM CHATTING WITH A HOMEOWNER WHO IS REPLACING BOOKS IN HER FREE
1:32:11AM LITTLE LIBRARY OR CONVERSATIONS CAN NEIGHBORS WHO ARE DOING
1:32:14AM THEIR LANDSCAPING IN THE HEAT OF SUMMER.
1:32:16AM THESE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF THE HUNDREDS OF NEIGHBORLY
1:32:19AM ENCOUNTERS I'VE HAD.
1:32:20AM OUR LOW RISE NEIGHBORHOOD PROMOTES CONNECTIVITY WHERE
1:32:24AM NEIGHBORS EASILY INTERACT AND FOSTER RELATIONSHIPS.
1:32:27AM FRONT YARDS BECOME EXTENSIONS OF LIVING SPACES.
1:32:30AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THRIVES IN HARMONY WITH HOMES THAT SHARE
1:32:33AM SIMILAR SCALE.
1:32:34AM THE PROPOSED HIGH-RISE WITH ITS MASSIVE VERTICAL ORIENTATION
1:32:40AM AND LET'S NOT FORGET THE SECURITY FENCING UNDERMINES GENUINE
1:32:43AM OPPORTUNITIES FOR CHANCE ENCOUNTERS AND STRIPS AWAY HUMAN
1:32:46AM NEIGHBORLY CONNECTIONS.
1:32:47AM THIS HIGH-RISE WOULD NOT CREATE VALUE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
1:32:51AM RATHER, IT WOULD CREATE A HUMAN SILO OF DISCONNECTED
1:32:57AM RESIDENTS THAT SERVE THE PRIMARY INTEREST OF A SINGLE
1:32:59AM ENTITY.
1:32:59AM THIS ISN'T JUST A NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUE.
1:33:02AM THE BROADER COMMUNITY DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS REZONING AS
1:33:05AM EVIDENCED BY THE OVER 1800 E-MAILS YOU ALL RECEIVED THAT
1:33:10AM WERE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REZONING.
1:33:12AM THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO BE HEARD.
1:33:14AM ARE YOU LISTENING?
1:33:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:33:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MS. JASPER, THE
1:33:20AM PAPERS YOU HANDED TO ME WERE NOT WHAT YOU SHOWED ON THE
1:33:22AM SCREEN.
1:33:22AM DID YOU WANT TO PLACE THOSE INTO THE RECORD?
1:33:24AM >> I DO.
1:33:25AM YES, I DID IT VERY SMALL -- I DO WANT TO SUBMIT ALL THESE AS
1:33:29AM WELL.
1:33:29AM UM-HUM.
1:33:30AM THANK YOU.
1:33:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:33:32AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS VANCE SMITH.
1:33:34AM HE HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM WITH THREE PEOPLE.
1:33:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SYLVIA SMITH, PLEASE. MICHAEL POLLBACK.
1:34:00AM AND CAROL GUIDON.
1:34:04AM THREE ADDITIONAL MINUTES FOR A TOTAL OF 6.
1:34:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:34:13AM >> VANCE SMITH.
1:34:14AM 3501 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
1:34:16AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS PETITION.
1:34:26AM I HAVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FROM MANY OF THE OBJECTIONS
1:34:29AM YOU HEARD TONIGHT.
1:34:30AM I WANT TO TAKE YOU BACK TO NOVEMBER OF 2022 WHEN THE
1:34:34AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT WAS PRESENTED FOR DISCUSSION
1:34:40AM WITH A SIMILAR PD PLAN SITE-CONTROLLED PLAN THAT IS
1:34:46AM VIRTUALLY IDENTICAL TO WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
1:34:50AM THAT APPLICATION FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT PROPOSED
1:34:54AM TO CHANGE THE DISTRICT FROM R 35 TO R 83, AND IT WAS DENIED.
1:35:01AM AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, THE ZONING APPLICATION WAS ALSO
1:35:06AM DENIED.
1:35:07AM WHEN THAT DIDN'T GO WELL, RELATED CAME AND FILED ANOTHER
1:35:10AM APPLICATION FOR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT CHANGING FROM R
1:35:14AM 35 TO R 50.
1:35:16AM AND FOR SOME REASON THAT WAS WITHDRAWN.
1:35:19AM AND THEN WE COME TO MAY 11, AGAIN, WITH THE SAME PD SITE
1:35:25AM CONTROLLED PLAN AS WAS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE APPLICATION IN
1:35:31AM NOVEMBER '22 AND MAY 11, 2023.
1:35:36AM THOSE SUBSTANTIAL SITE PLANS WERE IDENTICAL IN TERMS OF
1:35:42AM HEIGHT, SCALE, SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND GENERAL AMENITIES.
1:35:52AM WE'RE BACK TONIGHT.
1:35:53AM THERE'S NO MORE DIFFERENCE.
1:35:55AM I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER IF IT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE TO CHANGE R
1:36:02AM 35 THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO R 83 IN
1:36:09AM NOVEMBER 82, TELL US WHERE THE DIFFERENCES ARE THAT MAKE IT
1:36:12AM APPROPRIATE TO CHANGE FROM MEDIUM DENSITY R 35 TO HIGH
1:36:18AM DENSITY R 83 TODAY.
1:36:21AM THE COMP PLAN SECTION, GOALS, OBJECTIVES, POLICIES, LU
1:36:29AM OBJECTIVE 8.14.3 SAYS THAT PLANNING DEVELOPMENT REZONING IS
1:36:34AM NOT TO BE USED FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF WAIVING ESTABLISHED
1:36:40AM LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
1:36:41AM I BELIEVE THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT IS OCCURRING HERE.
1:36:45AM RELATED IS ASKING YOU TO RETURN THIS WITHOUT USING A
1:36:49AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT TO AN R 83 TYPE HIGH DENSITY,
1:36:54AM HIGH-RISE UNIT.
1:36:55AM IT SHOULD BE DENIED.
1:37:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
1:37:02AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARK GESSNER.
1:37:05AM SPEAKER NUMBER 30.
1:37:07AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD, SIR.
1:37:19AM >> GOOD MORNING.
1:37:20AM MY NAME IS MARK GESSNER.
1:37:21AM I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TAMPA JCCs.
1:37:24AM YOU HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUE JACK ROSS A WHILE AGO ABOUT A
1:37:29AM VARIETY OF REASONS WHY WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS PLAN.
1:37:33AM I WANT TO EMPHASIZE ONE POINT.
1:37:35AM OUR PRESCHOOL HAS BEEN ON THIS PROPERTY FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.
1:37:39AM MANY OF OUR FAMILIES HAVE GROWN UP THERE AND IT'S NEAR AND
1:37:42AM DEAR TO US.
1:37:43AM IT'S NEAR AND DEAR TO THE JEWISH COMMUNITY AT-LARGE.
1:37:47AM WHILE IT'S A SHORT-TERM DISRUPTION FOR US, WE CAN DEAL WITH
1:37:52AM THE SHORT TERM.
1:37:54AM WHAT'S MORE TROUBLING WOULD BE LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY AND
1:37:59AM STRENGTH OF OUR COMMUNITY.
1:38:01AM THIS IS AN ANCHOR IN OUR COMMUNITY.
1:38:03AM IT IS THE ONLY SYNAGOGUE IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE SUPPORT IT
1:38:09AM BECAUSE WE WANT TO SEE THAT STRENGTH FOR MANY YEARS TO COME
1:38:12AM AND WE NEED THAT SUPPORT NOW MORE THAN EVER.
1:38:15AM SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO A HEALTHY COMMUNITY FOR YEARS TO COME
1:38:20AM IN SUPPORT OF RODEPH.
1:38:23AM THAT'S IT.
1:38:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
1:38:25AM NEXT IS DENNIS LEVINE, NUMBER 31.
1:38:29AM YES, SIR.
1:38:30AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:38:34AM >> THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.
1:38:35AM MY NAME IS DENNIS LEVINE.
1:38:37AM I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA AND A LIFELONG RESIDENT,
1:38:40AM MEMBER OF RODEPH SHOLOM SYNAGOGUE.
1:38:42AM I WANT TO MAKE A FEW POINTS.
1:38:43AM I'M NOSTALGIC.
1:38:45AM I MISS EATING LUNCH AT THE COLONNADE AND MISS EATING AT THE
1:38:52AM GARDENS, BUT I PREFER THERE BE NO CONDOS ON BAYSHORE.
1:38:56AM TAMPA IS A MUCH DIFFERENT PLACE FROM THE LITTLE TOWN I GREW
1:38:58AM UP IN.
1:38:59AM I'M SO PROUD OF WHAT TAMPA HAS BECOME.
1:39:01AM THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
1:39:03AM CONDOS ON BAYSHORE ARE A REALITY.
1:39:05AM IF YOU STAND ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AT BAY TO BAY, YOU'LL SEE
1:39:09AM AT LEAST TEN CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS.
1:39:13AM THIS CURRENT APPLICATION IS NOT UNUSUAL, AND IT'S NOT
1:39:18AM INCONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD USE.
1:39:21AM THIS IS SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
1:39:23AM YOU CAN SEE IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES.
1:39:25AM THIS IS WHAT TAMPA IS BECOMING.
1:39:29AM SO ANY TALK THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE
1:39:34AM NEIGHBORHOOD IS NONSENSE.
1:39:35AM I WOULD SAY THE CONCERNS OF THE GARDEN CLUB, I HEAR THEM,
1:39:39AM BUT LET'S BE CLEAR, NOBODY LIVES AT THE GARDEN CLUB.
1:39:43AM NOBODY LIVES THERE.
1:39:44AM I UNDERSTAND IT'S A CLUB.
1:39:48AM THEY ARE NOT RESIDENTS.
1:39:49AM THIS APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING ON
1:39:55AM BAYSHORE.
1:39:55AM I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING ELSE.
1:39:57AM SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL WERE MEMBERS WHEN YOU
1:40:00AM CONSIDERED REZONING OF THE STOVALL HOUSE FIVE YEARS AGO.
1:40:03AM THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS, THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY LIVED
1:40:08AM NEXT TO THAT PROPERTY, THEY LIVED THERE, CAME OUT IN MASS
1:40:12AM AND PROTESTED.
1:40:13AM I WAS ONE OF THEM.
1:40:14AM WHY?
1:40:14AM I OWN A HOUSE DIRECTLY BEHIND THE STOVALL PROPERTY.
1:40:18AM I SPOKE PASSIONATELY AS MY NEIGHBORS DID ABOUT THE NEGATIVE
1:40:21AM IMPACT THE PROJECT WOULD HAVE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:40:23AM HOW IT WAS INCONSISTENT, INCOMPATIBLE.
1:40:26AM WHAT HAPPENED?
1:40:26AM WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
1:40:29AM COUNCIL APPROVED THAT REZONING, INCLUDING A LIQUOR LICENSE
1:40:33AM FOR THE STOVALL HOUSE.
1:40:34AM WHY?
1:40:35AM WELL, BECAUSE THEY SAID IT WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S
1:40:38AM HAPPENING ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
1:40:40AM THEY TALKED ABOUT THE FUTURE VISION OF TAMPA AS AMERICA'S
1:40:43AM NEXT GREAT CITY.
1:40:44AM I SUPPOSE ALSO THEY FIGURED THE NEIGHBORS WOULD HAVE TO DEAL
1:40:49AM WITH IT AND WE DID.
1:40:50AM I ENDED UP SELLING MY HOUSE TO BLAKE CASPER, BECAUSE I
1:40:53AM WASN'T GOING TO BUILD A HOUSE NEXT TO THAT CLUB WITH ALL
1:40:57AM THAT PARKING.
1:40:58AM NOTHING DIFFERENT HERE.
1:40:59AM I ASKED THE CITY COUNCIL TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S
1:41:03AM VISION OF THE CONTINUED TRANSFORMATION OF TAMPA AND THE
1:41:08AM TRANSFORMATION OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND ASK YOU TO SUPPORT
1:41:13AM THIS REZONING.
1:41:14AM THANK YOU.
1:41:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
1:41:17AM YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:41:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: STOVALL HOUSE --
1:41:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR MICROPHONE.
1:41:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS ON THE COUNCIL THEN AND I VOTED
1:41:28AM AGAINST IT.
1:41:29AM >> I KNOW YOU DID, SIR.
1:41:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:41:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS JONATHAN TANNIN, NUMBER 32.
1:41:36AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:41:45AM >> GOOD MORNING.
1:41:45AM MY NAME IS JONATHAN TANNIN.
1:41:47AM I AM A RESIDENT OF TAMPA.
1:41:48AM I AM A BOARD MEMBER AT CONGREGATION RODEPH SHOLOM, AND I
1:41:52AM VOLUNTEER THERE AS A VOLUNTEER SUNDAY SCHOOLTEACHER.
1:41:56AM RODEPH IS A TAMPA LANDMARK THAT LIKE MANY OTHER INSTITUTIONS
1:42:03AM HAVE FACED RISING COSTS.
1:42:05AM THIS PROJECT WILL ALLOW US TO MAINTAIN OUR BUILDING IN ITS
1:42:09AM EXISTING LOCATION AND HOPEFULLY REMAIN THERE FOR GENERATIONS
1:42:11AM TO COME.
1:42:12AM WE'VE BEEN DOING GREAT THINGS WITH OUR SUNDAY SCHOOL
1:42:15AM PROGRAM.
1:42:15AM WE RECENTLY HIRED A NEW EDUCATION DIRECTOR.
1:42:18AM WE'VE BEEN BRINGING IN A LOT OF NEW KIDS, AND WE HOPE TO BE
1:42:21AM ABLE TO CONTINUE DOING THAT AND BUILDING ON THAT.
1:42:24AM I'VE HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THIS PROJECT ON
1:42:27AM THE COMMUNITY.
1:42:28AM WE ARE A PART OF THE TAMPA COMMUNITY.
1:42:30AM WE'RE PART OF THE BAYSHORE COMMUNITY, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO
1:42:33AM CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THAT FOR, AS I SAID, GENERATIONS
1:42:36AM TO COME INTO THE INDEFINITE FUTURE.
1:42:39AM OTHERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS PROJECT WILL BENEFIT
1:42:43AM TAMPA.
1:42:43AM IT WILL BRING TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY.
1:42:46AM IT WILL GENERATE JOBS THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS.
1:42:49AM IT WILL GENERATE BUSINESS FOR THE NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS,
1:42:55AM WILL GENERATE BUSINESS FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES.
1:42:58AM SO THIS IS A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY.
1:43:01AM I'M ALSO A LAWYER, LAND USE IS NOT MY AREA, BUT I THINK IT'S
1:43:06AM IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL
1:43:08AM PROCEEDING, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU ALL NEED TO BE FAIR AND
1:43:12AM IMPARTIAL AND VOTE BASED ON THE EVIDENCE BEFORE YOU.
1:43:15AM IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW CHARISMATIC OR FOLKSY OR FUNNY OR ANGRY
1:43:21AM THE SPEAKERS UP HERE ARE OR HOW MANY OPPONENTS THERE ARE
1:43:25AM VERSUS HOW MANY SUPPORTERS.
1:43:26AM IT'S ABOUT WHETHER YOU'VE BEEN PRESENTED WITH COMPETENT
1:43:29AM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE REZONING.
1:43:32AM AND YOU'VE HEARD THAT EVIDENCE FROM YOUR OWN STAFFERS.
1:43:35AM YOU'VE HEARD THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
1:43:37AM PLAN OF TAMPA.
1:43:39AM YOU'VE HEARD THAT IT WILL IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA
1:43:43AM THROUGH ELIMINATING THE EXISTING TRAFFIC WAIVER.
1:43:46AM AND IT'S ALSO CONSISTENT WITH OTHER RESIDENTIAL TOWERS THAT
1:43:50AM ARE IN THIS AREA.
1:43:52AM IT WILL NOT DISRUPT THE COMMUNITY.
1:43:54AM YOU'VE HEARD THE EVIDENCE.
1:43:55AM YOU NEED TO VOTE IN FAVOR AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE IN
1:43:58AM FAVOR.
1:43:58AM THANK YOU.
1:43:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
1:44:00AM NEXT SPEAKER IS BOB WHITMORE.
1:44:02AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
1:44:04AM YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
1:44:09AM >> I WILL TRY NOT TO BE HUMOROUS, FUNNY OR WHATEVER THE
1:44:12AM OTHER THING WAS.
1:44:13AM BOB WHITMORE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CITY TREE.
1:44:18AM THEY SAVED AN EXTRA GRAND TREE.
1:44:21AM WHOO.
1:44:22AM I'M HUMBLED THAT CHANGED THE PROJECT BECAUSE NOTHING ELSE,
1:44:25AM NOTHING ELSE HAS CHANGED.
1:44:26AM THEY GOT RID OF THE PICKLEBALL COURT, TOO.
1:44:28AM WE'RE NOT LOOKING INTO THAT.
1:44:30AM REALLY, I CAN'T TALK ABOUT TREES ON THIS PROJECT THANKS, OF
1:44:33AM COURSE, TO THE FACT THAT THIS CITY ALLOWS 50% OF THE TREES
1:44:36AM TO BE REMOVED BY A DEVELOPER.
1:44:37AM 32 PROTECTED TREES TO BE EXACT IN THIS INSTANCE, NOT THAT
1:44:41AM THEY HAD TO REMOVE 50%, BUT HEY, SAID WE COULD, SO LET'S
1:44:44AM TAKE THEM ALL.
1:44:45AM AND THEN THERE IS THE FACT THAT THEY ARE GETTING TREE
1:44:50AM CREDITS FOR A TREE THAT WASN'T EVEN THREATENED AND ISN'T ON
1:44:54AM THE PROPERTY.
1:44:54AM I HOPE SOMEBODY ASKS RICKY ABOUT THAT WHEN HE COMES UP.
1:44:57AM RELATED AS WE'VE HEARD AS AN ABYSMAL RECORD OF PRESERVING
1:45:01AM TREES UP TO AND INCLUDING THE DAY I WATCHED A REPRESENTATIVE
1:45:04AM OF RELATED RITZ-CARLTON PROJECT STAND HERE AND DEFIANTLY
1:45:09AM REFUSE A REQUEST FROM THIS COUNCIL TO PROTECT A 200-YEAR-OLD
1:45:12AM TREE WITH A PERMEABLE SIDEWALK AND THEN RAN FROM THE
1:45:15AM BUILDING WITH CHANNEL 8 CHASING THEM WHICH WAS PRETTY FUNNY.
1:45:18AM SINCE BOB WHITMORE OF CITY TREE CAN'T TALK ABOUT TREES, BOB
1:45:23AM WHITMORE THE CITIZEN WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A FEW THOUGHTS.
1:45:26AM TAXES.
1:45:27AM IS THAT WHAT THEY REALLY THINK THIS IS ABOUT?
1:45:29AM TAXES.
1:45:30AM REVENUE AT ANY COST IS NOT WHAT THIS COUNCIL DOES DEAR
1:45:35AM APPLICANT AND NOT WHAT WE DO HERE IN TAMPA.
1:45:37AM THEN THEY SPEAK ABOUT UNDERDEVELOPED PROPERTY.
1:45:40AM UNDERDEVELOPED PROPERTY, THE SOVEREIGN SONG OF DEVELOPER,
1:45:44AM ANY PROPERTY THAT HASN'T HAD A SOLVE PUT INTO IT IS
1:45:47AM UNDERDEVELOPED.
1:45:48AM EVEN SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ON SINGLE LOTS, I'VE SEEN IN THESE
1:45:52AM CHAMBERS, STEVE SAYS THEY ARE UNDERDEVELOPED.
1:45:55AM BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I HAVEN'T HEARD TONIGHT?
1:45:57AM TEN POUNDS OF CRAP IN A FIVE POUND BAG WHICH IS WHAT THIS
1:46:02AM IS.
1:46:02AM IT'S A MONSTER.
1:46:03AM IT'S NOT TAMPA.
1:46:05AM IS THIS WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO BECOME, REALLY?
1:46:07AM I DRIVE BY THAT RITZ-CARLTON MONUMENT TO TREEMAGEDDON RUIN
1:46:14AM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD, THEY RUINED IT AND HARD TO LOOK AT IT.
1:46:18AM IT SERIOUSLY, SERIOUSLY IS.
1:46:19AM THIS PROJECT IS NOT JUST INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA, IT'S
1:46:22AM INCOMPATIBLE WITH TAMPA.
1:46:23AM WE ARE NOT MIAMI.
1:46:24AM THERE I SAID IT.
1:46:25AM AND THIS PROJECT SETS A PRECEDENT OR AT LEAST ATTEMPTS TO
1:46:29AM CONTINUE A PRECEDENT SET BY THE RITZ-CARLTON.
1:46:32AM THAT WAS A HECK OF A MISTAKE.
1:46:34AM A MISTAKE THAT THIS IS OUR WAY OF SAYING NO.
1:46:37AM BAYSHORE WILL NOT BECOME A ROW OF MONOLITHIC, BRUTALISH
1:46:42AM STRUCTURES WITH NO ARCHITECTURAL VALUE.
1:46:45AM LET'S BE CLEAR, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE SYNAGOGUE CLOSE,
1:46:48AM BUT WE WILL NOT RANSOM THE CHARACTER OF BAYSHORE TO SAVE IT.
1:46:54AM I'M SORRY.
1:46:55AM WE JUST WON'T.
1:46:56AM THERE ARE LOTS OF REASONS -- IT'S BIG.
1:46:59AM IT'S UGLY, AND NO ONE WANTS IT BUILT.
1:47:01AM NOT ONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS WANTS THIS BUILT UNLESS, OF
1:47:04AM COURSE, THEY ARE MAKING MONEY ON IT AND THAT IS NOT A REASON
1:47:08AM TO GO AHEAD AND SAY YES.
1:47:10AM SO THE FACT IS, I WANT TO PROPOSE FOR CONSIDERATION TAMPA
1:47:15AM DOES NOT WANT THIS KIND OF CONSTRUCTION ON BAYSHORE
1:47:18AM BOULEVARD.
1:47:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:47:22AM NEXT IS JILL CORCORAN, NUMBER 34.
1:47:25AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
1:47:35AM >> JILL CORCORAN.
1:47:36AM CORNER OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AND SANTIAGO STREET.
1:47:39AM I HAVE BEEN LIVING THE NIGHTMARE OF THE RITZ-CARLTON FOR THE
1:47:42AM LAST TWO YEARS.
1:47:43AM I ONLY HAD ABOUT FOUR HOURS OF SLEEP BECAUSE MY FLIGHT GOT
1:47:47AM IN VERY LATE LAST NIGHT.
1:47:48AM APOLOGIZE FOR MY VOICE.
1:47:51AM BUT I HAVE DEALT WITH THESE FOLKS OVER THE LAST YEAR.
1:47:53AM I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WHO CAME UP AND TALKED ABOUT THE
1:47:56AM ACTUAL SIZE OF THE BUILDING.
1:47:57AM THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
1:47:58AM WE DON'T NEED THAT BIG OF A BUILDING AND CERTAINLY NOT FOR
1:48:01AM 5,000-SQUARE-FOOT RESIDENCES.
1:48:04AM BUT I HAVE ALSO MADE A LIST OF A DOZEN OF LAWS, ORDINANCES,
1:48:09AM AND REGULATIONS THAT THE RELATED GROUP BLATANTLY DISREGARDS
1:48:14AM EVERY DAY, IF NOT EVERY DAY, AT LEAST TWICE A WEEK.
1:48:18AM THEY WORK BEFORE HOURS AND AFTER HOURS.
1:48:21AM THEY ARE LESS THAN 1500 FEET FROM RESIDENCES, MAINLY MINE
1:48:24AM AND THE NINE NEIGHBORS I LIVE NEXT TO.
1:48:26AM AND THEY ARE OUT THERE AT 7:00 IN THE MORNING ON SATURDAYS
1:48:30AM USING JACK HAMMERS WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED UNTIL AFTER 10 A.M.
1:48:35AM EVEN THIS LAST WEEK THEY ARE WORKING AT 5:00 IN THE MORNING.
1:48:38AM THEY ARE WORKING AT 11:00 AT NIGHT.
1:48:40AM WHEN I GO UP TO THEM AND ASK THEM AND THIS WILL BE MY
1:48:43AM QUESTION FOR EVERYONE ON COUNCIL, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?
1:48:46AM I'VE CALLED THE POLICE, CALLED THE CITY.
1:48:48AM I FILED COMPLAINTS.
1:48:50AM I'VE DONE EVERYTHING I POSSIBLY CAN.
1:48:51AM BUT I'VE GONE TWO YEARS WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO GET A DECENT
1:48:54AM NIGHT'S SLEEP.
1:48:55AM I HAD TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY FOR A MONTH SO I COULD ENJOY MY
1:48:58AM CHRISTMAS.
1:48:59AM AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
1:49:00AM MY NEIGHBOR WHO STAYED FOR CHRISTMAS, ON CHRISTMAS DAY, CAME
1:49:04AM HOME AT 6:30 AT NIGHT.
1:49:05AM THIS IS 30 MINUTES PAST THE TIME THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BE OUT
1:49:07AM THERE AND WAS TOLD BY A WOMAN STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
1:49:10AM STREET SHE COULD NOT COME DOWN THE STREET.
1:49:12AM SHE SAYS, I LIVE ON THE STREET.
1:49:14AM THE GIRL SAID, NOPE, I'M SORRY, WE CAN'T LET YOU DOWN THE
1:49:16AM STREET.
1:49:16AM AND SHE SAID, I'M SORRY, BUT I'M GOING DOWN THE STREET, AND
1:49:16AM SHE WENT AROUND HER, AND SHE SCREAMED VULGARITIES AT HER.
1:49:22AM CHRISTMAS NIGHT.
1:49:22AM SO THEN A COUPLE OF HOURS LATER SHE COMES BACK AGAIN BECAUSE
1:49:26AM NOW SHE'S COMING BACK FROM HER DAD'S HOUSE FOR DINNER.
1:49:29AM THE SAME WOMAN IS OUT THERE AND THREW HERSELF ON THE CAR.
1:49:32AM I CAN GIVE YOU THE POLICE CASE NUMBER.
1:49:32AM THE POLICE HAD TO BE CALLED TO GET THIS WOMAN OFF THE CAR SO
1:49:36AM SHE COULD GET DOWN HER STREET ON CHRISTMAS NIGHT.
1:49:38AM THAT'S JUST ONE OF A MILLION OF THESE THAT I CAN POINT OUT
1:49:42AM TO YOU.
1:49:42AM I'VE COPIOUS QUANTITIES OF VIDEO AND PICTURES THAT YOU CAN
1:49:46AM SEE THEM BLATANTLY DISREGARDING YOUR ORDINANCES, THE STATE'S
1:49:50AM LAWS, THE COUNTY'S LAWS, EVERYBODY'S LAWS BECAUSE THEY DON'T
1:49:54AM CARE ABOUT ANY OF US.
1:49:56AM THEY SAY THEY WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, THEY ARE HORRIFIC
1:49:59AM NEIGHBORS.
1:50:00AM I AM HERE TO JUDGE THAT BECAUSE I HAVE LIVED THROUGH THIS.
1:50:03AM THIS IS MY HOME THAT CARROLL ANN WAS SHOWING EARLIER.
1:50:06AM THAT'S THE GARBAGE THAT'S BEEN IN MY YARD.
1:50:09AM THESE ARE THE BAGS AND BAGS THAT I'VE COLLECTED.
1:50:11AM THEY ARE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE THEY ARE AT FELONY
1:50:15AM LITTERING.
1:50:16AM AT A CERTAIN WEIGHT YOU BECOME A FELONY LITTERING PERSON.
1:50:20AM THIS STUFF LANDS IN MY YARD, MY GARDEN, ON ALL OF MY THINGS.
1:50:23AM THIS IS MY CAR.
1:50:24AM IT IS COVERED WITH WHITE STUFF BECAUSE THEY KEEP DROPPING IT
1:50:27AM OFF OF THEIR BUILDING.
1:50:28AM EVERY BIT OF GRASS I'VE HAD FOR 20 YEARS I'VE LIVED THERE I
1:50:32AM HAD A DECENT LAWN AND NOW I HAVE NOTHING BUT RUBBLE.
1:50:35AM THEY PUT IN A SIDEWALK, THEY TOLD YOU THAT THEY WEREN'T
1:50:38AM GOING TO TAKE IT OUT BUT THEN THEY WENT TO THE NEWS AND
1:50:41AM SAID, OH, WE'LL TAKE IT OUT BUT THEY HAVEN'T.
1:50:44AM WHEN I CALLED THIS MORNING, THEY SAID, NO, WE'RE NOT GOING
1:50:47AM TO.
1:50:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:50:48AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER --
1:50:50AM >> CAN I GET AN ANSWER?
1:50:52AM WHAT DO I DO ABOUT ALL THE LAWS AND ORDINANCES THEY BREAK?
1:50:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I'M SORRY, MA'AM, THIS IS NOT AN
1:50:58AM OPPORTUNITY FOR DIALOGUE WITH THE COUNCIL.
1:51:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ASK HER A QUESTION.
1:51:08AM DID YOU JUST SAY THE SIDEWALK THAT WENT BEHIND THE TREE IS
1:51:12AM STILL THERE?
1:51:13AM >> YES.
1:51:15AM AND THE GIANT CURB IS TOO.
1:51:17AM I WATCHED TWO PEOPLE FALL OVER IT.
1:51:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
1:51:20AM >> I ASKED TODAY, WOULD THEY REMOVE IT AND THEY SAID NO.
1:51:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:51:27AM >> CLARIFICATION.
1:51:28AM THEY DID NOT CONSTRUCT ANY MORE SIDEWALK, CORRECT?
1:51:30AM JUST A PORTION, LIKE TWO HOUSES DOWN FROM YOU?
1:51:35AM >> YES.
1:51:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO SIDEWALK AROUND THE TREE IN FRONT OF
1:51:37AM YOUR HOUSE.
1:51:38AM >> NO, BUT WHAT THEY DID DO IS SHOVEL A BUNCH OF ROCKS AND
1:51:41AM DIRT OVER THE STRUCTURAL ROOTS AND I HAD TO GO OUT AND PICK
1:51:44AM THAT UP.
1:51:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:51:45AM NEXT SPEAKER IS HALEY SASSER, NUMBER 37.
1:51:51AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:51:53AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:51:58AM >> HELLO, EVERYONE.
1:51:59AM MY NAME IS HALEY SASSER.
1:52:01AM I'M A TAMPA RESIDENT.
1:52:02AM I AM ALSO ONE OF THE MANY BRIDES THAT HAS CHOSEN TAMPA
1:52:06AM GARDEN CLUB AS THEIR WEDDING VENUE.
1:52:09AM I'M ACTUALLY GETTING MARRIED NEXT WEEKEND AT THE TAMPA
1:52:12AM GARDEN CLUB, SO I'M SPEAKING HERE TONIGHT OR THIS MORNING
1:52:17AM NOT ON BEHALF OF MYSELF BUT ON BEHALF OF FUTURE BRIDES WHO
1:52:20AM WILL CHOOSE THIS AS THEIR WEDDING VENUE.
1:52:23AM I CHOSE THIS VENUE BECAUSE IT IS TRULY ONE OF A KIND.
1:52:27AM IT'S A GREAT LOCATION.
1:52:29AM PRETTIEST VIEW OF BAYSHORE AND VERY CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN.
1:52:32AM IT HAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CEREMONY SPACE, SERENE, PEACEFUL,
1:52:40AM AND YOU CAN'T FIND THAT AT OTHER WEDDING VENUES.
1:52:43AM DEFINITELY NOT IN THIS AREA.
1:52:46AM AND FOR THE REASONS THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY PREVIOUSLY
1:52:49AM STATED, I AM AFRAID THAT THE BEAUTY OF THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB
1:52:53AM WILL BE DIMINISHED FOR FUTURE COUPLES IF THIS PROJECT MOVES
1:52:58AM FORWARD.
1:52:59AM AND THERE'S ALREADY ENOUGH HIGH-RISES AND CONDOS ON BAYSHORE
1:53:02AM BOULEVARD.
1:53:03AM PLEASE DO NOT BUILD ANOTHER ONE.
1:53:05AM THANK YOU.
1:53:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:53:06AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS KITTY WALLACE, NUMBER 38.
1:53:10AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:53:17AM >> HI.
1:53:19AM GOOD MORNING.
1:53:19AM MY NAME IS KITTY WALLACE.
1:53:21AM I LIVE AT 4902 NORTH COLLINS LANE IN WELLSWOOD AND I AM PAST
1:53:27AM PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB.
1:53:28AM I'M HERE NOT TO SAY ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD.
1:53:32AM THERE HAVE BEEN SOME REALLY WELL CONSTRUCTED SENTENCES.
1:53:36AM IT IS ALMOST 2 IN THE MORNING AND I AM NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU
1:53:42AM ONE OF THOSE BECAUSE I'M REALLY TIRED.
1:53:43AM BUT I AM GOING TO SAY THAT I REMEMBER WHEN YBOR CITY
1:53:48AM DECLARED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO BUILDINGS TALLER THAN FOUR
1:53:52AM STORIES.
1:53:53AM AND SO I THINK IT MUST BE POSSIBLE THAT A COUNCIL CAN DECIDE
1:53:58AM ON THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING IN THEIR JURISDICTION.
1:54:02AM AND YOU GUYS ARE IN CHARGE OF TAMPA.
1:54:05AM SO I'M SAYING WHY DID WE NOT DO THAT IF WE COULD LOOK AT
1:54:12AM THAT AGAIN, I THINK THAT WOULD ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AND THE
1:54:16AM CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BECOME
1:54:20AM ANOTHER MIAMI.
1:54:21AM THAT GENTLEMAN WAS TERRIFIC EARLIER WHO SAID WE ARE NOT
1:54:26AM MIAMI.
1:54:27AM SO I SAY LET'S LOOK AT THAT.
1:54:30AM LET'S SEE IF WE CAN'T DEFINE THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS ON
1:54:34AM BAYSHORE.
1:54:35AM AND WHEN ALL THE OTHER BUILDINGS ARE SOMEWHERE IN THE
1:54:38AM NEIGHBORHOOD OF 150 TO 170 FEET HIGH AND THIS BUILDING IS
1:54:43AM SOME KIND OF 320 FEET HIGH, WHATEVER, ISN'T THAT LIKE
1:54:49AM GARGANTUANLY OUT OF PLACE?
1:54:51AM I SAY IT IS.
1:54:52AM I SAY, PLEASE, VOTE NO.
1:54:54AM THANK YOU.
1:54:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1:54:58AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STEVEN HIRSCHKOWITZ.
1:55:03AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:55:03AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
1:55:08AM >> MY NAME IS STEVE HIRSCHKOWITZ.
1:55:13AM HEARD A LOT OF THINGS BANTERED ABOUT TONIGHT.
1:55:15AM I CAME TO TAMPA ABOUT 23 YEARS AGO.
1:55:18AM STATIONED AT MacDILL.
1:55:19AM MY WIFE AND I DECIDED TO RETIRE HERE BECAUSE WE LOVED THE
1:55:23AM NEIGHBORHOOD, THE CITY, EVERYTHING ABOUT IT AND ALSO BECAUSE
1:55:25AM OF RODEPH SHOLOM.
1:55:26AM SO I AM A MEMBER OF RODEPH SHOLOM.
1:55:28AM MY DAUGHTER WAS BAT MITZVAH'D THERE AND NOW THE VICE
1:55:33AM PRESIDENT.
1:55:33AM LET'S PUT ALL THAT ASIDE FOR A MINUTE BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE
1:55:36AM OUR REASONS WHY WE WANT TO KEEP THE GARDEN CLUB AND RODEPH
1:55:40AM IN PLACE, AS I DO.
1:55:42AM BUT I'VE HEARD THE WORD INCOMPATIBLE A LOT.
1:55:45AM I THINK EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM, WHEN WE WALK OUT THOSE FRONT
1:55:49AM DOORS, IF YOU GO TAKE A DRIVE DOWN BAYSHORE BOULEVARD,
1:55:52AM YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS.
1:55:55AM IT IS COMPATIBLE.
1:55:56AM THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.
1:55:57AM ALSO, THIS BUILDING IS NOT GOING TO BE ON BAYSHORE
1:55:59AM BOULEVARD.
1:56:00AM WE KEEP HEARING THAT, BUT IT'S NOT.
1:56:02AM IT'S GOING TO BE ON YSABELLA.
1:56:03AM PART OF WHAT THIS -- PART OF THE DESIGN STRUCTURE THAT WAS
1:56:06AM PUT FORTH ENSURES THAT BECAUSE IT KEEPS RODEPH SHOLOM ON
1:56:10AM BAYSHORE WITH ALL OF ITS GREEN FRONTAGE AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
1:56:15AM THE GARDEN CLUB IS A TAMPA LANDMARK, NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
1:56:19AM AS IS THE SYNAGOGUE.
1:56:20AM AND THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT AFFECT EITHER ONE'S
1:56:24AM ABILITY TO CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS.
1:56:25AM I'VE BEEN TO A WEDDING AT THE TAMPA GARDEN CLUB, AND THE
1:56:28AM NOISE THAT I HEARD WAS ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
1:56:31AM THERE WASN'T NOISE FROM ANY CONSTRUCTION OR ANYTHING.
1:56:34AM IT WAS A LOT OF NOISE.
1:56:35AM BUT IT WAS STILL A BEAUTIFUL WEDDING.
1:56:38AM WE'VE BEEN GREAT PEACEFUL NEIGHBORS WITH THE TAMPA GARDEN
1:56:41AM CLUB FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
1:56:43AM THEY HAVE THEIR PARTIES, THEIR VERY LARGE PARTIES.
1:56:49AM WEDDINGS, THE FOOD TRUCKS.
1:56:51AM WE APPLAUD THEIR EFFORTS BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THEM TO SURVIVE.
1:56:55AM WE WOULD NEVER HAVE THE AUDACITY TO TELL THEM HOW TO RUN
1:57:00AM THEIR BUSINESS.
1:57:00AM WE CAN'T BECOME AN EVENT SPACE OURSELVES BECAUSE WE ARE A
1:57:03AM HOUSE OF WORSHIP.
1:57:05AM IT'S NOT WHAT WE DO.
1:57:05AM WE RELY STRICTLY ON OUR DONATIONS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
1:57:11AM OUR SYNAGOGUE SITS NEXT TO THE GARDEN CLUB'S OUTDOOR SPACE.
1:57:15AM THE PROPOSED TOWER IS ON THE BACK PART OF OURS.
1:57:18AM IT'S NEXT TO THEIR DIRT LOT WHERE -- THEIR PARKING LOT.
1:57:22AM AND MAYBE IT WAS A GREEN GRASS AT ONE TIME OR OTHER TYPE OF
1:57:26AM THING, BUT IN ALL THE TIME I'VE BEEN HERE, IT HAS NOT BEEN.
1:57:31AM IT'S LITERALLY THE FURTHEST POINT AWAY FROM THE GARDEN CLUB
1:57:36AM IS WHERE THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD THIS BUILDING.
1:57:38AM THE SYNAGOGUE -- FURTHER, THERE'S A DEVELOPER AGREEMENT IN
1:57:45AM PLACE.
1:57:45AM I'VE HEARD A NUMBER OF TIMES ABOUT A SECOND TOWER MAYBE
1:57:48AM GOING UP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
1:57:50AM THERE'S ACTUALLY AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE THAT PREVENTS THAT.
1:57:52AM I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT CAME FROM, BUT CERTAINLY NOT GOING
1:57:55AM TO HAPPEN.
1:57:57AM I DO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS.
1:57:59AM SO ALL I WOULD SAY -- AND ANOTHER THING, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE
1:58:03AM SAID, WELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO USE IT.
1:58:05AM YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SELL ALL THE LAND AND -- WELL, WE MAY
1:58:10AM END UP HAVING TO DO THAT.
1:58:11AM IF THAT'S THE CASE, SO BE IT.
1:58:13AM I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO US AND
1:58:18AM LISTENING TO EVERYBODY HERE AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING.
1:58:21AM REALLY DO.
1:58:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
1:58:23AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS NICK STOCCO.
1:58:26AM WHO HAS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM WITH SEVEN PEOPLE.
1:58:29AM YES, SIR, YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM.
1:58:43AM IF YOU WOULD, GIVE IT TO THE ATTORNEY AND WE WILL READ THE
1:58:49AM NAMES OFF.
1:58:55AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE MAKE YOUR PRESENCE KNOWN.
1:58:57AM HARRIET PLAYER.
1:58:59AM SHARLA WASH.
1:59:01AM ELAINE SULLIVAN.
1:59:03AM ELAINE SULLIVAN?
1:59:06AM IS THERE A JOANNE McNABB?
1:59:13AM HAVE YOU SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY.
1:59:15AM >> DIFFERENT CASE.
1:59:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DIFFERENT CASE.
1:59:17AM THANK YOU.
1:59:17AM GEORGE SPRINKLE.
1:59:22AM >> HERE.
1:59:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
1:59:24AM SANDRA SPRINKLE.
1:59:26AM >> HERE.
1:59:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
1:59:27AM LORRAINE BODE.
1:59:29AM LORRAINE BODE.
1:59:31AM NO RESPONSE.
1:59:36AM MARY JOE SHANK.
1:59:38AM >> HERE.
1:59:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
1:59:39AM SIX FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
1:59:44AM I HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX.
1:59:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NINE MINUTES.
1:59:55AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
1:59:57AM >> GOOD MORNING.
1:59:58AM NICK STOCCO, PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS UNION, ALSO
2:00:03AM A RESIDENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
2:00:08AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD YOU STOP THE CLOCK, PLEASE.
2:00:10AM SORRY TO INTERRUPT, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, IN WHAT
2:00:15AM CAPACITY ARE YOU SPEAKING HERE THEN?
2:00:17AM >> PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA FIREFIGHTERS.
2:00:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
2:00:21AM >> YOU'RE WELCOME.
2:00:21AM FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY.
2:00:28AM IT'S LATE.
2:00:30AM IT'S ACTUALLY MIND-BLOWING ON THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE
2:00:33AM HERE AND HOW WELL YOU HAVE CONDUCTED THIS OPERATION WITH
2:00:36AM THIS MANY PEOPLE.
2:00:37AM KUDOS TO MS. EDWARDS AND DEFINITELY BIG HUGE ROUND OF
2:00:41AM APPLAUSE TO ALL THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT HAVE CAME TO
2:00:44AM SPEAK, ESPECIALLY THE ELDERLY.
2:00:46AM I MAY BE THE YOUNGEST IN THE ROOM.
2:00:48AM I'M PROBABLY THE MOST TIRED, SO I APPLAUD EVERYBODY FOR
2:00:52AM EVERYTHING.
2:00:53AM I DO HAVE SOME MAPS THAT I WANT TO SHOW ON THIS ELMO.
2:01:06AM I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE BEST I CAN GET FOR NOW.
2:01:18AM I WAS GOING TO PLAY A VIDEO, BUT WE'LL DEVIATE FROM THAT.
2:01:22AM BEFORE I BEGIN, I JUST WANT TO SAY ON BEHALF OF THE
2:01:28AM FIREFIGHTERS, WE'RE NOT HERE FOR.
2:01:30AM WE'RE NOT HERE AGAINST.
2:01:31AM WE'RE HERE ON FIREFIGHTER ISSUES.
2:01:33AM AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT IS A WORKLOAD ANALYSIS ON
2:01:37AM HOW CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT NOW FOR FACTS BASED OFF OF
2:01:41AM HIGH-RISE RESPONSES AND THE WORKLOAD ON THE FIREFIGHTERS
2:01:45AM THAT'S BEING PUT ON BY THIS COMMUNITY.
2:01:47AM DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDED A FIRE STATION ON THE FIRST FLOOR, WE
2:01:50AM PROBABLY WOULD BE HERE IN FAVOR FOR.
2:01:52AM BUT WE'RE HERE TO PRESENT SOME FACTS.
2:01:55AM THIS MAP HERE SHOWS A PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION OF UNDER FIVE
2:02:05AM AND OVER 65 YEARS OF AGE.
2:02:08AM THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF THE VULNERABLE POPULATION ARE IN
2:02:12AM THE SOUTH CENTRAL AREA BETWEEN STATIONS 9 AND 12.
2:02:15AM WHICH ARE RIGHT HERE.
2:02:19AM THE OTHER MOST IMPORTANT AREA IS EAST OF STATION 15 ALONG
2:02:26AM HILLSBOROUGH BAY AND WEST OF STATION 14 AND 15 RIGHT ALONG
2:02:32AM THIS CORRIDOR HERE, DOWN HERE.
2:02:34AM THESE ARE OUR GROUPS WHERE OUR PEOPLE ARE MOST VULNERABLE.
2:02:40AM THE ELDERLY ABOVE 65.
2:02:43AM WE SAW IT HERE TODAY.
2:02:45AM THE LIMITED MOBILITY TO GO FROM ONE FLOOR TO THE NEXT.
2:02:49AM WHEN AN EMERGENCY ARISES, THE FIRST THING THAT GOES OUT
2:02:54AM OTHER THAN THE FIRE ALARM IS THE DISCONTINUATION OF
2:02:56AM ELEVATORS.
2:02:57AM AND WHEN THE ELEVATORS STOP WORKING, PEOPLE NEED TO USE
2:03:00AM FLIGHTS OF STAIRS.
2:03:01AM FIREFIGHTERS ARE KNOWN FOR GOING IN TO RESCUE PEOPLE AND UP
2:03:06AM THESE STAIRWELLS.
2:03:07AM BUT WHAT WE NEED IS MORE FIREFIGHTERS.
2:03:10AM STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT THE MORE FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARRIVE AT
2:03:18AM THE SCENE OF A FIRE, THE LESS TIME IT TAKES TO COMPLETE ALL
2:03:21AM TASKS ASSOCIATED WITH FIRE SUPPRESSION, SEARCH AND RESCUE
2:03:24AM AND OTHER CRITICAL FIRE ACTIVITIES.
2:03:28AM A HIGH-RISE BUILDING IS DEFINED AS A BUILDING HIGHER THAN
2:03:31AM SEVEN STORIES OR 75 FEET.
2:03:34AM FROM A FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONSE CAPABILITY, SOME LARGE
2:03:39AM COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES ARE CONSIDERED AS HIGH-RISES NOT DUE
2:03:42AM TO THEIR HEIGHT BUT THEIR SIZE.
2:03:44AM SOME EXAMPLES ARE THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, HCC, ROBINSON
2:03:48AM HIGH SCHOOL, PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AND IT'S DUE TO THE HIGH
2:03:52AM HAZARD OF OCCUPANTS THAT THEY HAVE.
2:03:54AM THE INITIAL DISPATCH TO A HIGH-RISE ALARM CALLS FOR A
2:03:57AM MINIMUM OF 43 FIREFIGHTERS.
2:04:01AM BELOW I HAVE SOME OF THE STATIONS AND WHERE THE FIREFIGHTERS
2:04:05AM ARE.
2:04:06AM AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE AREAS OF SOUTH TAMPA, STATIONS 19, 15,
2:04:13AM 14, 3, 17, 8, 0 ARE NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE BECAUSE IT'S AT THE
2:04:24AM AIRPORT AND 9 ARE WHAT WOULD MAKE THE INITIAL RESPONSE OF A
2:04:30AM HIGH-RISE INCIDENT IN SOUTH TAMPA.
2:04:33AM THIS IS WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT AN INITIAL RESPONSE AND
2:04:45AM HOW MANY STATIONS WOULD BE WIPED OUT BY JUST ONE CALL FOR A
2:04:50AM BURNT TOAST.
2:04:51AM NO SMOKE, NO FIRE.
2:04:53AM BUT JUST AN INITIAL RESPONSE FOR A HIGH-RISE AND THAT'S HOW
2:04:59AM MANY STATIONS WOULD GET WIPED OUT.
2:05:01AM ONCE WE ARRIVE ON SCENE, IF WE DETERMINE THAT THERE'S ANY
2:05:09AM SMOKE OR FIRE, IT WOULD DOUBLE THE RESPONSE DUE TO THE
2:05:13AM WORKLOAD ANALYSIS.
2:05:17AM AND THIS IS HOW MANY STATIONS WOULD BE WIPED OUT.
2:05:20AM THAT'S ABOUT 80 FIREFIGHTERS FOR ANY HIGH-RISE RESPONSE AND
2:05:29AM ANY HIGH-RISE THAT HAS SMOKE OR FLAMES SHOWING.
2:05:34AM THAT'S HOW MANY RESOURCES ARE DEPLETED IN THE CITY.
2:05:37AM THAT'S IN CURRENT DAY'S TIME TODAY.
2:05:39AM THIS WOULD BE APPLICABLE IF EVERY UNIT WERE IN SERVICE.
2:05:42AM THAT'S IF NO ONE WAS ON A CALL.
2:05:45AM AND WE AVERAGE A CALL EVERY SIX MINUTES.
2:05:48AM THIS MAP IS IF EVERY UNIT IS AVAILABLE.
2:06:20AM IDENTIFIES WHERE WE CAN ASSEMBLE 43 FIREFIGHTERS WITHIN TEN
2:06:24AM MINUTES AND TEN SECONDS.
2:06:25AM ALL THE AREAS IN GRAY ARE ALL AREAS THAT CANNOT BE COVERED
2:06:29AM FOR AN FPA STANDARD.
2:06:31AM WHAT THOSE INDICATE IS TRAVEL TIME.
2:06:35AM WE KEEP HEARING YSABELLA.
2:06:37AM AND WE KEEP HEARING BAY TO BAY.
2:06:40AM I SPENT THREE YEARS AS A FIREMAN DOWN AT SOUTH TAMPA.
2:06:43AM THERE'S ONLY ONE AERIAL TRUCK DOWN THERE.
2:06:46AM AND ONE AERIAL TRUCK THAT TAKES DALE MABRY TO BAY TO BAY AND
2:06:51AM YSABELLA TO PALM, TO HOWARD, TO REACH THE ESTATES SENIOR
2:06:58AM CITIZEN HOME BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD HIT HOWARD
2:07:02AM FROM PALMA CEIA, BECAUSE WE COULDN'T TAKE MORRISON BECAUSE
2:07:05AM THE TRUCK WAS TOO BIG AND THE ROAD WAS TOO NARROW AND THERE
2:07:09AM WOULD BE TOO MANY VEHICLES DOWN MORRISON.
2:07:12AM FROM A RESPONSE ANALYSIS POINT, THE FACTS ARE WE DO NOT HAVE
2:07:18AM SUFFICIENT COVERAGE IN THE CITY TO COVER THOSE GRAY AREAS ON
2:07:23AM THIS MAP FROM TRAVEL TIME AND A HIGH HAZARD RESPONSE.
2:07:28AM THE ONLY WAY TO IMPROVE TRAVEL DISTANCE IS TO BUILD MORE
2:07:34AM STATIONS SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE TRAVEL IS FROM THE
2:07:37AM STARTING POINT.
2:07:38AM WE WILL AS FIREFIGHTERS CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE THE FACT ON
2:07:48AM NEEDING MORE FIREFIGHTERS FOR RESPONSE AREAS, NOT JUST ON
2:07:51AM THIS ISSUE, BUT ON ALL ISSUES.
2:07:53AM AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO COME HERE AS WE SEE NECESSARY AND
2:07:59AM FIT.
2:08:00AM THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, FOR YOUR TIME.
2:08:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, THANK YOU.
2:08:03AM NEXT IS SALLY DEE.
2:08:04AM YES, SIR, CREMER.
2:08:12AM >> YES, SIR, MR. CHAIR.
2:08:13AM I NEED TO RESPECTFULLY OBJECT TO THIS TESTIMONY.
2:08:15AM IT'S NOT FOCUSED ON THE REZONING AT HAND.
2:08:18AM I DO COME FROM A FAMILY OF FARMERS AND FIRST RESPONDERS, SO
2:08:22AM I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
2:08:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:08:28AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
2:08:34AM >> SALLY DEE.
2:08:35AM I THINK THEY ARE PLAYING A VIDEO.
2:08:36AM DO YOU HAVE A VIDEO?
2:08:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU SUBMIT A VIDEO?
2:08:43AM >> YES.
2:08:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GIVE US A MOMENT HERE AND WE'LL BRING IT
2:08:45AM UP.
2:08:46AM THIS IS PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION.
2:08:50AM >> YES.
2:08:50AM ONE OF THE GALS THAT IS A STUDENT AT THE RODEPH WANTED TO
2:08:55AM SPEAK.
2:08:56AM SHE COULD NOT BE HERE SO SHE SUBMITTED A VIDEO.
2:08:58AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS THIS --
2:09:00AM >> I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK.
2:09:02AM JUST THE VIDEO.
2:09:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF CTTV CAN PLAY THE VIDEO THAT WAS
2:09:08AM RECEIVED.
2:09:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FROM SALLY DEE.
2:09:13AM >> CAROL.
2:09:14AM CAROL WALDEN.
2:09:16AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE ONE THAT RUNS ABOUT THREE MINUTES.
2:09:20AM ONE MINUTE AND 45 SECONDS.
2:09:21AM I HEAR IT.
2:09:25AM DON'T SEE IT.
2:09:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RAISE THE VOLUME, PLEASE AND START FROM
2:09:27AM THE BEGINNING.
2:09:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD YOU REWIND IT?
2:09:32AM >> AN IMPORTANT --
2:09:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE START --
2:09:40AM >> HI.
2:09:40AM MY NAME IS SARAH BAHARD.
2:09:43AM JUNIOR AT PLANT HIGH SCHOOL AND 3904 WEST SAN JUAN STREET.
2:09:47AM I AM UNABLE TO SPEAK TO YOU IN PERSON TONIGHT AS I AM AT THE
2:09:50AM JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER ALONG WITH MY CLASSMATES FROM RODEPH
2:09:53AM SHOLOM RELIGIOUS SCHOOL ATTENDING AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION
2:09:56AM FOR TEENS IN ISRAEL AND RISE OF ANTI-SEMITISM.
2:09:59AM EVEN AT MY YOUNG AGE I FEEL A DEEP CONNECTION TO MY
2:10:02AM SYNAGOGUE.
2:10:03AM MY FAMILY HAS BEEN A PART OF RODEPH SHOLOM FOR FIVE
2:10:05AM GENERATIONS.
2:10:06AM GREAT-GRANDPARENTS MARRIED AT RODEPH AND I AM ONE OF 34
2:10:09AM MEMBERS OF MY FAMILY TO BECOME A CONGREGATION REGISTERED
2:10:12AM ALUM SO FAR.
2:10:14AM MORE THAN THAT, MY LOVE AND DEDICATION TO JUDAISM ALL BEGAN
2:10:19AM AT RODEPH FROM ATTENDING PRESCHOOL AND GOING TO FAMILY
2:10:22AM PROGRAMS AS A YOUNG CHILD TO LEARNING MY RELIGION AND MAKING
2:10:24AM LIFE LONG FRIENDS AT RELIGIOUS SCHOOL TO NOW VOLUNTEERING
2:10:27AM EVERY WEEK AS A TEACHERS ASSISTANT AT RODEPH SHOLOM SUNDAY
2:10:31AM SCHOOL.
2:10:31AM MY WONDERFUL EXPERIENCES OUR SYNAGOGUE HAVE HELPED SHAPE THE
2:10:34AM YOUNG ADULT I AM TODAY.
2:10:36AM IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SOURCE OF PRIDE TO ME TO SEE RODEPH
2:10:40AM SHOLOM AS A LANDMARK ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
2:10:42AM I THINK IT SENDS A POWERFUL MESSAGE TO TAMPA BAY AND THE
2:10:45AM WORLD THAT TAMPA IS AN ACCEPTING, DIVERSE AND INCLUSIVE
2:10:49AM COMMUNITY.
2:10:49AM RODEPH SHOLOM HAS A BRIGHT FUTURE AND I CONSIDER MYSELF A
2:10:52AM PART OF THE FUTURE.
2:10:53AM JEWISH FAITH IS PASSED DOWN THROUGH OUR PARENTS AND I HOPE
2:10:56AM TO ONE DAY WORSHIP WITH MY OWN CHILDREN IN THE BEAUTIFUL
2:11:00AM SYNAGOGUE ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
2:11:01AM YOU HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE THE DREAM A REALITY.
2:11:03AM THIS ISSUE IS A MATTER OF SIMPLE ECONOMICS FOR THE LONG-TERM
2:11:08AM FINANCIAL WELL-BEING OF OUR SYNAGOGUE.
2:11:09AM OUR PRESENCE HERE TODAY SIGNIFIES OUR SEARCH FOR A SOLUTION
2:11:12AM TO ENSURE WE CAN REMAIN IN OUR BELOVED HOME.
2:11:15AM PLEASE VOTE YES ON REZ 24-6 TO ENSURE RODEPH SHOLOM WILL
2:11:19AM CONTINUE TO THRIVE ON BAYSHORE BOULEVARD FOR GENERATIONS TO
2:11:22AM COME.
2:11:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
2:11:29AM ATTORNEY.
2:11:29AM MY APOLOGIES FOR ALL THESE ISSUES COMING UP DURING THIS
2:11:33AM HEARING, BUT I REALIZE THAT IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL SETTING
2:11:37AM THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR CROSS-EXAMINATION HERE.
2:11:41AM I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OBJECTION, BUT I JUST WANT COUNCIL
2:11:45AM TO BE AWARE IN LIGHT OF THAT, WE'LL HAVE TO BE VERY MINDFUL
2:11:49AM OF WHEN PEOPLE SUBMIT THESE SORT OF IT MUST THAT ARE
2:11:53AM PRERECORDED.
2:11:53AM SO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO WEIGH THAT ACCORDINGLY, THAT
2:11:57AM THERE'S BEEN NO OPPORTUNITY HERE IF THERE WAS ONE.
2:12:00AM WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT IN THE FUTURE AND PLEASE BE
2:12:03AM JUST AWARE OF THAT AS YOU WEIGH ALL THE EVIDENCE.
2:12:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
2:12:08AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STEVEN HAUBENSTOCK.
2:12:13AM YES, SIR.
2:12:30AM >> MY NAME IS STEVEN HAUBENSTOCK.
2:12:33AM THERE IS MY NUMBER.
2:12:39AM GOOD MORNING, I APPRECIATE EVERYONE BEING HERE FOR SUCH A
2:12:44AM LONG TIME.
2:12:45AM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THE CONGREGATION RODEPH SHOLOM
2:12:51AM PROPERTY SHOWS THAT TAMPA IS AN INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY THAT
2:12:55AM VALUES ITS HISTORY WHILE EMBRACING GROWTH.
2:12:58AM THIS CO-LOCATION ALLOWS THE SYNAGOGUE TO EXIST ALONG WITH
2:13:04AM MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF TAMPA.
2:13:07AM THE COUNCIL CAN DEMONSTRATE WITH THIS APPROVAL A WILLINGNESS
2:13:12AM TO ADAPT AND FIND INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS TO PRESERVE CHERISHED
2:13:17AM LANDMARKS.
2:13:18AM THE CO-LOCATION PLAN IS A WIN-WIN FOR TAMPA AND CONGREGATION
2:13:23AM RODEPH SHOLOM.
2:13:24AM THIS PRESERVES A PART OF TAMPA HISTORY.
2:13:27AM THE FACT IS BAYSHORE IS BECOMING MORE URBAN.
2:13:30AM THIS APPROVAL WILL ALLOW RELIGIOUS SERVICES TO BE ADJACENT
2:13:34AM TO LIVING QUARTERS, NOT ONLY HAVING HOUSING IN THE AREA.
2:13:40AM THE CITY AND ALL OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WILL ALSO BENEFIT
2:13:44AM FROM PROMISED IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED BY RELATED COMPANY FOR
2:13:48AM FRED BALL PARK AND THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING
2:13:51AM LANDSCAPING, SIDEWALKS, A NEW CROSSWALK FOR IMPROVED ACCESS
2:13:55AM FROM THE PRESBYTERIAN SENIOR APARTMENTS TO THE PARK AND THE
2:14:00AM PROMISE TO REPAVE YSABELLA AND BARCELONA STREETS.
2:14:04AM IF ALL THAT IS NOT ENOUGH, THIS WILL TAKE PROPERTY CURRENTLY
2:14:08AM GENERATING ZERO PROPERTY TAXES TO A PROPERTY GENERATING
2:14:12AM AROUND $1 MILLION A YEAR IN PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE CITIZENS
2:14:15AM OF TAMPA.
2:14:16AM PLEASE APPROVE THIS CHANGE.
2:14:18AM THANK YOU.
2:14:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:14:20AM MY NEXT SPEAKER IS ALEXANDER ARIGO.
2:14:26AM AND THEN I HAVE ALEXANDRA DERIMO.
2:14:32AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
2:14:37AM >> HI.
2:14:37AM I'M ALEX ARIGO, 921 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
2:14:44AM I COULD WALK TO THE SYNAGOGUE.
2:14:45AM OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS I'VE SEEN RENTAL PRICES RISE
2:14:50AM DRASTICALLY MAKING HOUSING UNAFFORDABLE.
2:14:53AM FORMER UT STUDENT I AIM TO OWN A HOME BUT WITH THE MEDIAN
2:14:57AM HOUSE PRICE AT $416,000, THAT SEEMS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE.
2:15:01AM I BELIEVE TAMPA'S HOUSING SHORTAGE IS A CORE ISSUE.
2:15:05AM THE PROPOSED CONDO TOWER OFFERS A SOLUTION.
2:15:08AM BABY BOOMERS RETIRING IN LARGE NUMBERS, THERE IS A GROWING
2:15:11AM DEMAND FOR HOUSING OPTIONS LIKE THIS.
2:15:13AM BY TRANSITIONING FROM HOME OWNERSHIP TO CONDO LIVING, THESE
2:15:17AM INDIVIDUALS CAN HELP ALLEVIATE HOUSING PRESSURE AND CREATE
2:15:20AM VACANCIES THEREBY DRIVING DOWN PRICES.
2:15:22AM VOTING YES FOR INITIATIVES THAT FOSTER HOUSING DEVELOPMENT
2:15:25AM IS IMPORTANT FOR RETAINING OUR CITY'S EDUCATED AND TALENTED
2:15:28AM GRADUATES.
2:15:29AM MY GENERATION IS TAMPA'S FUTURE.
2:15:31AM IT'S EASY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE ENJOYED THE BENEFITS OF HOME
2:15:34AM OWNERSHIP FOR DECADES TO OPPOSE PROJECTS LIKE THIS CONDO
2:15:38AM TOWER.
2:15:39AM I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS OF YOUR
2:15:42AM DECISION ON THE FUTURE OF TAMPA AND THE NEXT GENERATION OF
2:15:46AM HOMEOWNERS.
2:15:47AM BY APPROVING PROJECTS LIKE THE LUXURY CONDO TOWER, WE ARE
2:15:50AM NOT ONLY CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR INDIVIDUALS LIKE MYSELF
2:15:54AM BUT ALSO LAYING THE GROUNDWORK FOR A PROSPEROUS AND
2:15:57AM INCLUSIVE FUTURE FOR OUR CITY.
2:15:59AM PLEASE PRIORITIZE THE NEEDS OF OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND VOTE
2:16:02AM YES.
2:16:03AM THANK YOU.
2:16:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:16:05AM NEXT UP WE HAVE ALEXANDRA DERIMO.
2:16:08AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
2:16:09AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
2:16:12AM >> HI.
2:16:13AM I'M ALEX DERIMO.
2:16:17AM 6207 SOUTH WEST SHORE BOULEVARD IN TAMPA.
2:16:19AM AND I AM HERE TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
2:16:23AM AS A YOUNG PROFESSIONAL AND RECENT GRADUATE FROM THE
2:16:25AM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA, I HAVE WITNESSED THE RAPID GROWTH IN
2:16:28AM TAMPA BAY AND HOUSING CRISIS THAT OUR COMMUNITY FACES.
2:16:30AM I MYSELF HAVE EXPERIENCED IMMENSE STRUGGLES IN FINDING
2:16:34AM HOUSING BOTH RENTING AND BUYING.
2:16:36AM SHORTAGE OF HOUSING IN TAMPA HAS CREATED A PRESSING
2:16:38AM CHALLENGE IN ACCOMMODATING THE 150 PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOVED
2:16:42AM HERE EVERY DAY OVER THE LAST DECADE.
2:16:43AM THIS LOOK OF HOUSING HAS LED TO SKYROCKETING HOME PRICES
2:16:47AM MAKING IT INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT FOR YOUNG INDIVIDUALS LIKE
2:16:50AM MYSELF TO LIVE IN THE AREA.
2:16:51AM NOT ONLY DOES THIS MAKE PURCHASING A HOME UNAFFORDABLE BUT
2:16:54AM ENCOURAGES URBAN SPRAWL, FORCING TO US LIVE ON THE OUTSKIRTS
2:16:57AM OF TAMPA, RESULTING IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF LOW DENSITY, CAR
2:17:00AM DEPENDENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
2:17:01AM I URGE YOU TO CONSIDER THE BENEFITS OF THIS PROJECT AND THE
2:17:04AM EFFECT IT WILL HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY FOR GENERATIONS TO
2:17:06AM COME.
2:17:07AM THE REJECTION OF THIS PROJECT WILL HINDER COMMUNITY
2:17:09AM DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING AVAILABILITY FURTHER ENHANCING
2:17:12AM HOUSING ACCESS INEQUITY.
2:17:14AM WE AS A COMMUNITY NEED TO PRIORITIZE THE CREATION OF HOUSING
2:17:17AM TO MEET THE GROWING DEMANDS OF THIS AREA.
2:17:20AM THANK YOU.
2:17:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:17:21AM MAUREEN.
2:17:22AM NUMBER 48.
2:17:23AM YES, MA'AM.
2:17:26AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
2:17:34AM >> YES.
2:17:34AM THANK YOU.
2:17:35AM MY NAME IS MAUREEN AYRAL.
2:17:37AM I AM A MANAGING DIRECTOR OF INVESTMENTS AT WELLS FARGO
2:17:41AM ADVISORS.
2:17:41AM I LIVE AT 3401 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
2:17:44AM I HAVE LIVED ON BAYSHORE OR WITHIN BLOCKS OF THE BOULEVARD
2:17:50AM SINCE 1981.
2:17:52AM I'M AN AVID RUNNER AND WALKER.
2:17:55AM I AM OUT THERE EVERY DAY FOUR TO FIVE MILES OVER AN HOUR.
2:17:59AM I LOVE THE BOULEVARD.
2:18:00AM I'M COMMITTED TO THIS SPACE AND I APPROACH THIS DECISION
2:18:03AM WITH AN OPEN MIND.
2:18:05AM I SAT IN COMMUNITY MEETINGS FROM BOTH SIDES, AND I AM HERE
2:18:10AM TO ADVOCATE FOR THIS PROJECT.
2:18:12AM ONE OF MY JOBS IS HELPING THE 10,000 BABY BOOMERS WHO ARE
2:18:19AM TURNING AGE 65 EVERY SINGLE DAY HERE.
2:18:22AM I PERSONALLY ADVISE 200 AFFLUENT TAMPA FAMILIES WHO ARE ON
2:18:30AM AN AVERAGE AGE OF 67.
2:18:33AM THEY ARE EITHER ALREADY RETIRED OR NEARING RETIREMENT AND
2:18:38AM NOT A FINANCIAL PLANNING SESSION GOES BY WITHOUT THEM
2:18:41AM DISCUSSING THE DESIRE TO DOWNSIZE.
2:18:45AM THEY ARE YOUR MARKET WHO ARE GOING TO BUY THESE
2:18:49AM CONDOMINIUMS.
2:18:50AM AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE SELLING THEIR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
2:18:54AM TO ME, THAT'S A WIN-WIN.
2:18:56AM WE HAVE TO GET THIS INVENTORY MOVING.
2:19:00AM SO THAT IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY REASONS I AM IN SUPPORT OF
2:19:04AM THIS.
2:19:06AM SECONDARILY, FRED BALL PARK, I'VE BEEN GOING THERE SINCE MY
2:19:13AM CHILDREN WERE IN BABY JOGGERS, AND WITHOUT A DOUBT, IT'S GOT
2:19:19AM A LOT OF POTENTIAL, BUT IT NEEDS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
2:19:22AM WORK.
2:19:23AM I BELIEVE IN OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
2:19:26AM MY HOPE ON CHAPIN WAS ACTUALLY ON THE ROSE CIRCLE TOUR.
2:19:32AM THESE ARE FABULOUS GROUPS.
2:19:34AM HOWEVER THIS PARK NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP AND BIG BUCKS, AND
2:19:38AM I THINK WE WOULD BE GIVING UP A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY TO
2:19:42AM NOT WORK WITH RELATED ON PROVIDING THE GUIDANCE AND
2:19:46AM PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE AND FUNDING THAT WILL BRING THIS
2:19:51AM PARK UP TO THE STANDARDS THAT WE'RE SEEING AT WATER STREET.
2:19:55AM MY CLIENTS ARE NOT GOING TO MOVE TO WATER STREET OR TO
2:19:59AM DOWNTOWN TAMPA, WHICH THEY THINK ARE SKETCHY.
2:20:02AM WHAT THEY WANT IS THE BEAUTY AND SERENITY OF BAYSHORE.
2:20:06AM THEY HAVE VISITED MY CONDO, THE MIRAGE, WHICH I'M SORRY FOR
2:20:11AM THE GENTLEMAN WHO LOST HIS LUNCH SPOT, BUT THE BUILDINGS ARE
2:20:15AM COMPARABLE.
2:20:16AM MY BUILDING HAS 71 UNITS.
2:20:19AM I HAVE NEVER HEARD A COMPLAINT ABOUT DOGS BARKING OR STREETS
2:20:22AM BEING CROWDED.
2:20:24AM BECAUSE OF OUR VEHICLES.
2:20:26AM THIS BUILDING IS 40% SMALLER.
2:20:29AM I THINK YOU HAVE TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND UNDERSTAND THAT
2:20:34AM PROGRESS IS COMING, AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GUIDE IT.
2:20:38AM AND WITH THAT, I WISH YOU ALL A VERY GOOD NIGHT.
2:20:41AM THANK YOU.
2:20:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:20:44AM VINCE COIL, YOU ARE NEXT.
2:20:47AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
2:20:58AM >> VINCE COYLE.
2:21:00AM I APOLOGIZE.
2:21:01AM MY PRESENTATION MAY NOT BE AS CRISP HAD I BEEN A HIGHER
2:21:06AM DRAFT CHOICE.
2:21:07AM MY WIFE AND I WE LIVE AT 2812 WEST BARCELONA STREET WHICH IS
2:21:13AM ESSENTIALLY GROUND ZERO FOR BOTH THE ALTURA CONSTRUCTION
2:21:17AM PROJECT, WHICH WE'VE LIVED FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, AND IF
2:21:20AM YOU WERE TO APPROVE THE CODEVELOPMENT, THE NEW SYNAGOGUE
2:21:24AM PROJECT, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER THREE YEARS OF LIVING THE
2:21:29AM CONSTRUCTION NIGHTMARE.
2:21:31AM I WOULD ASK YOU TO JUST KIND OF SAY NO TO THIS, ADDING
2:21:34AM ANOTHER SKYWAY SCRAPER THAT IS REALLY INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE
2:21:38AM CHARACTER OF THIS AREA.
2:21:40AM MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE IN JUNE 2018, THERE WAS NO ALTURA.
2:21:46AM THERE WAS NO RITZ-CARLTON.
2:21:49AM THERE WAS JUST ACROSS THE STREET A NICE QUIET, STABLE
2:21:52AM SYNAGOGUE, IDEAL NEIGHBOR.
2:21:54AM NOW WE HAVE THIS CODEVELOPMENT NEIGHBOR, WHICH IS
2:21:58AM INCONSISTENT, INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE PREMISE THAT WE BOUGHT
2:22:02AM BACK IN JUNE 2018.
2:22:05AM LOW DEVELOPMENT, LOW DENSITY, TWO STORY, THREE STORY, THAT
2:22:09AM WAS IT.
2:22:10AM TODAY, IF I WALK OUT MY UNIT, I WALK 20 STEPS TO THE LEFT,
2:22:16AM LOOMING UP ABOVE IS ALTURA.
2:22:18AM IF THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD, I WON'T EVEN NEED TO LEAVE THE
2:22:21AM TOWN HOUSE AND I'LL SEE ANOTHER MONOLITH GOING UP.
2:22:27AM LET ME GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF VISUALS WHILE I'M HERE.
2:22:30AM THIS IS THE CONSTRUCTION NIGHTMARE WE'VE BEEN LIVING.
2:22:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TURN IT THE OTHER WAY.
2:22:35AM >> THIS WAS TAKEN ON MONDAY.
2:22:37AM THEY ARE BLOCKING OUR EXIT FROM THE HOUSE 15 MINUTES BEFORE
2:22:44AM IT MOVED AWAY.
2:22:46AM AGAIN, THIS HAPPENED NOT DAILY, BUT FREQUENTLY ENOUGH THAT
2:22:51AM WE'RE UNABLE TO LEAVE OUR UNIT.
2:22:55AM THEN IF WE ARE ABLE TO ESCAPE THE CONSTRUCTION VEHICLE, THEN
2:22:59AM WE RUN INTO THE CONTROLLED INTERSECTION AS THEY ARE
2:23:03AM DIRECTING TRAFFIC AT THE INTERSECTION.
2:23:04AM THIS HAS BEEN OUR REALITY FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
2:23:08AM NOW, I WANT TO CONTRAST THAT WITH THE PICTURE I TOOK THIS
2:23:13AM EVENING BEFORE I CAME.
2:23:15AM THE QUIETUDE OF THE SYNAGOGUE AS I ONCE KNEW IT.
2:23:22AM THAT'S THE SYNAGOGUE.
2:23:22AM WHEN I HEAR ABOUT THE TRAFFIC REDUCTION AS A RESULT OF THIS
2:23:26AM PROJECT, IT'S SILLY.
2:23:27AM THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
2:23:29AM THE SYNAGOGUE DURING THE DAY THERE'S SOME ACTIVITY BUT AT
2:23:32AM NIGHT IT'S QUIET.
2:23:33AM THE WEEKEND IT IS EERILY QUIET.
2:23:36AM ON FRIDAYS --
2:23:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE 30 MORE SECONDS.
2:23:40AM >> ANYWAY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE
2:23:45AM PLIGHT OF THE CONGREGATION.
2:23:47AM AN AGING CONGREGATION, FINDING IT DIFFICULT TO REPLACE ITS
2:23:50AM MEMBERS AND THE FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION OF AN INCREASINGLY
2:23:54AM SECULARIZING YOUNGER GENERATION.
2:23:56AM WE IN THE CATHOLIC COMMUNITY FACE THE SAME THING.
2:23:59AM AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEIR FINANCIAL PLIGHT IS IRRELEVANT
2:24:03AM TO THE ISSUE BEFORE YOU.
2:24:04AM DOES THIS DEVELOPMENT MEET THE CODE?
2:24:07AM OKAY.
2:24:08AM THANK YOU.
2:24:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:24:09AM NEXT ON THE LIST I HAVE TONY EVERETT.
2:24:12AM BUT I DON'T SEE HER IN THE ROOM.
2:24:14AM OH, YOU ARE HERE.
2:24:15AM YES, MA'AM, YOU'RE NEXT.
2:24:16AM ANYBODY ELSE COMING IN?
2:24:25AM 78 MORE SPEAKERS?
2:24:29AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
2:24:41AM >> I'M TONY EVERETT.
2:24:43AM MY FAMILY HAS BEEN HERE SINCE GRANDPARENTS TO GRANDCHILDREN,
2:24:49AM AND WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT TAMPA AND BAYSHORE AND THE
2:24:56AM FUTURE OF BAYSHORE.
2:24:57AM YOU'VE HEARD ALL THIS ABOUT THE BIG MEGABUILDING THAT COULD
2:25:04AM BE BUILT, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DEVELOPER THAT MAY COME AND GO?
2:25:10AM THESE DEVELOPERS RELATED GROUP HAVE BEEN COMMITTED HERE FOR
2:25:16AM YEARS.
2:25:17AM THEY'VE GIVEN DONATIONS.
2:25:20AM THEY HAVE BUILT LOW INCOME, MIDDLE INCOME, AND HIGH INCOME.
2:25:26AM THEY HAVE DONATED TO MANY OF THE CHARITIES IN TAMPA
2:25:36AM CONSISTENTLY, AND THEY ARE DEPENDABLE AND YOU CAN COUNT ON
2:25:43AM THEM TO CARE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN TAMPA.
2:25:47AM BUT I'D LIKE TO ALSO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE
2:25:55AM GARDEN CLUB.
2:25:57AM FIRST OF ALL, WHEN A DEVELOPMENT TAKES AWAY TREES, THEY HAVE
2:26:01AM TO REPLANT TREES TO COMPENSATE.
2:26:06AM SECONDLY, IF THEY ARE AFRAID ABOUT US LOOKING AT THE
2:26:16AM WEDDINGS, THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THE GREENSPACE AND THE
2:26:22AM GREEN WALL AND ON THE LOWER FLOORS THEY'LL HAVE TROUBLE
2:26:26AM SEEING THE WEDDING.
2:26:28AM ON THE HIGHER FLOORS, YOU HAVE TERRACES THAT IF YOU'RE IN
2:26:31AM THE UNIT IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE THE GROUND UNLESS YOU GO TO
2:26:36AM THE EDGE OF THE TERRACE AND YOU CAN LOOK DOWN AND SEE DOTS
2:26:41AM AND GREENSPACE.
2:26:42AM SO THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE WEDDING VENUE.
2:26:49AM SECONDLY, IN ADDITION, THE BENEFIT TO TAMPA WITH THE HIGHER
2:26:55AM TAXES, MAYBE WE CAN GET OUR INFRASTRUCTURE POTHOLES DONE IN
2:27:01AM THE SOUTH END OF TOWN AND EVERYBODY WOULD BENEFIT BY NOT
2:27:05AM HAVING SO MANY REPAIRS TO THEIR CAR, PLUS WE MIGHT GET
2:27:12AM ENOUGH MONEY FROM THE TAXES TO BUILD A NEW FIRE STATION NEAR
2:27:17AM THERE.
2:27:18AM AND ALSO, THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE IMPACT OF NOISE AFTER
2:27:26AM THE BUILDING IS BUILT.
2:27:28AM I KNOW PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE GLAD TO DONATE TO THE
2:27:34AM GARDEN CLUB FOR THEM TO HAVE A NEW VENUE ON THE BALL PARK
2:27:42AM SIDE WHERE THEY COULD HAVE A MAGICAL WEDDING VENUE AND NOT
2:27:48AM HEAR THE ONGOING NOISE FROM THE --
2:27:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:27:52AM >> I HOPE YOU WILL VOTE YES.
2:27:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:27:55AM OUR LAST SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
2:28:00AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
2:28:01AM YOU HAVE A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM WITH SEVEN NAMES, IS THAT
2:28:04AM CORRECT?
2:28:04AM CARROLL ANN'S MOTION MAKERS ARE BETTER THAN MINE.
2:28:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE]
2:28:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE'S THERE.
2:28:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAROLYN FRANCISI.
2:28:31AM CAROL ROBERTS.
2:28:32AM SUZANNE CORAL.
2:28:34AM >> HERE.
2:28:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JEAN PRUDOM.
2:28:40AM KIM MORMON, AND CINDY GOADING.
2:28:44AM THANK YOU.
2:28:45AM THAT IS A TOTAL OF TEN MINUTES.
2:28:47AM SEVEN PLUS THREE.
2:28:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:28:50AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
2:28:51AM >> GOOD MORNING, STEPHANIE POYNOR.
2:28:53AM I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ACT WITH TEN MINUTES.
2:28:55AM FIRST OF ALL, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD SO MUCH SINCE I'VE BEEN
2:28:58AM BACK IN HERE THIS EVENING.
2:29:00AM FIRST OF ALL, NOBODY LIVES AT THE SYNAGOGUE EITHER.
2:29:02AM SOMEBODY POINTED OUT NOBODY LIVES AT THE GARDEN CLUB.
2:29:05AM WELL, NOBODY LIVES AT THE SYNAGOGUE.
2:29:07AM I WISH THAT THE APPLICANT WORKED AS HARD ON GETTING ROME
2:29:11AM YARD AND 47th STREET STARTED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS
2:29:15AM THEY HAVE ON THIS PROJECT.
2:29:18AM THIS HAS BEEN -- I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT WAS.
2:29:21AM AND IT'S BEEN LIKE AN AIR HOCKEY GAME.
2:29:25AM HOW MANY FEET IS IT HIGH?
2:29:26AM DO WE WANT TO DO A PD?
2:29:29AM DO WE WANT R 83?
2:29:31AM DO WE NOT?
2:29:32AM DO WE WITHDRAW IT?
2:29:34AM DO WE CHANGE THE HEIGHT?
2:29:36AM HOW TALL REALLY IS IT?
2:29:37AM I'M SO FRICKIN' CONFUSED.
2:29:40AM I JUST WANT TO HEAR THE ABSOLUTE CUT AND DRIED TRUTH BECAUSE
2:29:46AM THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE HEIGHT OF THE
2:29:49AM BUILDING WHEN IT'S BUILT.
2:29:51AM AND WE'VE HEARD A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS TONIGHT
2:29:54AM WHICH REALLY KIND OF SCARES ME.
2:29:56AM THIS HEARING IS NOT ABOUT RELIGION; IT'S ABOUT LAND USE AND
2:30:00AM COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
2:30:02AM THE FINANCIAL FUTURE OF THE SYNAGOGUE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH
2:30:07AM THIS.
2:30:08AM SORRY.
2:30:09AM IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION.
2:30:11AM THIS IS ABOUT LAND USE AND YOU HAVE TO FOCUS ON THAT.
2:30:14AM IT HAS NO BEARING ON A LAND USE ISSUE.
2:30:17AM I ATTENDED AN INFORMATION MEETING ON THE 24th.
2:30:21AM MR. CREMER SAID WE ARE ASKING THAT THEY TAILOR THE ZONING
2:30:25AM CATEGORY JUST FOR THIS PROPERTY.
2:30:27AM I THOUGHT, WELL, ISN'T THAT CONVENIENT FOR THAT PROPERTY,
2:30:33AM NOT FOR THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT.
2:30:36AM HE ALSO -- AND THIS WAS ONLY A FEW MINUTES AFTER WHEN WE
2:30:39AM ASKED ME WHY I WAS THERE.
2:30:41AM WAS I THERE TO REPRESENT THE GARDEN CLUB OR THE
2:30:43AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
2:30:44AM I SAID, WELL, ISN'T THAT KIND OF THE SAME?
2:30:46AM HE SAID WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE PROPERTY SHOULDN'T DICTATE WHAT
2:30:51AM HAPPENS TO THE OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND IT.
2:30:52AM I'M THINKING ISN'T THAT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS PD OR
2:30:56AM THIS REZONING RATHER.
2:30:58AM ISN'T THAT'S WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
2:31:01AM THAT IS CHANGING EVERYTHING FOR EVERYBODY.
2:31:03AM I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE STOVALL HOUSE, CITY COUNCIL,
2:31:07AM GUESS WHAT, THEY ALL GOT FIRED.
2:31:10AM MOST OF THEM DID.
2:31:11AM WE LOVE YOU, CHARLIE.
2:31:12AM YOU'RE STILL HERE.
2:31:13AM WE LOVE YOU.
2:31:14AM THAT'S WHY WE LOVE YOU.
2:31:15AM BUT THEY GOT FIRED.
2:31:17AM THAT WAS THE LAST COUNCIL THAT KOWTOWED TO EVERYBODY WHO
2:31:21AM CAME IN HERE AND DID WHATEVER THE HELL THE DEVELOPERS
2:31:25AM WANTED.
2:31:25AM THE OTHER TOWERS THAT WERE APPROVED -- HOLD ON.
2:31:30AM I NEED TO SHOW THIS.
2:31:33AM MR. CREMER SUBMITTED A 358 PAGE DOCUMENT CALLED EVIDENCE --
2:31:39AM I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE LIKE THAT.
2:31:40AM 358 PAGES.
2:31:42AM OH, MY GOD.
2:31:43AM THE COMP PLAN ONLY HAS 382.
2:31:46AM HE DIDN'T LEAVE ANY OF THE LAND USE CODE OUT.
2:31:49AM HE COULDN'T HAVE POSSIBLY BECAUSE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, PAGE
2:31:52AM AFTER PAGE, HERE IT IS.
2:31:54AM SO THESE ARE FROM MR. CREMER'S DOCUMENT THAT HE SUBMITTED.
2:31:58AM 358 PAGES.
2:32:00AM IT'S FROM THE APPLICANT'S EVIDENCE OF SUPPORT.
2:32:03AM NOW, WE'VE GOT THESE BUILDINGS AND 349.
2:32:08AM THAT'S THE RITZ-CARLTON.
2:32:09AM BUT HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 317 HERE.
2:32:12AM I WOULD LOVE, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE SOMEBODY ASK HOW TALL
2:32:17AM THIS BUILDING REALLY IS GOING TO BE TO SOMEBODY WHILE THEY
2:32:19AM ARE UNDER OATH BECAUSE I NEED TO KNOW BECAUSE WE'VE HEARD A
2:32:22AM WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT NUMBERS TONIGHT.
2:32:24AM NOW, THE NEXT TALLEST STRUCTURE BESIDES THAT ONE, BESIDES
2:32:32AM THE RITZ-CARLTON, WHICH IS ALSO A RELATED GROUP PROJECT,
2:32:36AM MIND YOU, IS 274 FEET TALL.
2:32:42AM SO THIS BUILDING IS EITHER GOING TO BE 75 FEET HIGHER OR 43
2:32:46AM FEET HIGHER.
2:32:47AM I DON'T KNOW WHICH.
2:32:48AM THE 75 FEET HIGHER IS HIGHER THAN MEDIUM DENSITY IS SUPPOSED
2:32:51AM TO BE TO START WITH.
2:32:52AM SO WE'RE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE SAME BALL PARK.
2:32:59AM AND NONE OF THESE ARE R 35.
2:33:02AM I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT LIKE MY FRIEND MR. SMITH
2:33:05AM SAID, THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO FOR R 83 AND THEY
2:33:10AM WITHDREW IT AND SAID, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.
2:33:13AM JUST LEAVE THAT ON THE TABLE.
2:33:16AM WE ALSO HAVE -- AND SO HERE, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THE REDUCTION
2:33:21AM IN THE 29 STORIES.
2:33:22AM 26.
2:33:23AM BUT IT'S STILL A WHOLE BUNCH HIGHER THAN SUPPOSED TO BE.
2:33:26AM I DON'T GET IT.
2:33:27AM I REALLY WANT TO KNOW HOW HIGH WAS THE OLD ONE, HOW HIGH IS
2:33:31AM THE NEW ONE?
2:33:32AM THE NEW ONE IS REALLY WHAT'S IMPORTANT.
2:33:34AM AND THIS REMOVE THE PICKLEBALL COURT, GUESS WHAT, THEY LEFT
2:33:37AM A BLANK SPACE IN THE BUILDING EXACTLY THE SIZE OF THE
2:33:41AM PICKLEBALL COURT.
2:33:42AM NOW, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN IT GETS
2:33:46AM TURNED OVER TO THE CONDO ASSOCIATION?
2:33:48AM I BET YOU 20 BUCKS IT WILL BECOME A PICKLEBALL COURT.
2:33:52AM YOU KNOW WHY?
2:33:52AM WHO WILL CHASE THEM DOWN.
2:33:54AM I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT THE CITY IS NOT GOING TO CHASE THEM
2:33:57AM DOWN UNLESS THE GARDEN CLUB IS MAKING COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT.
2:34:00AM THIS IS STILL THE APPLICANT'S EVIDENCE IN SUPPORT.
2:34:04AM I LOVE THAT THE BUS ROUTES ARE ON THERE.
2:34:07AM OH, MY GOSH, ALL 42 OF THE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO RIDE THE
2:34:13AM HART BUSES.
2:34:14AM ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
2:34:15AM REALLY?
2:34:15AM THIS IS BAFFLE THEM WITH THE BS.
2:34:21AM SO MUCH JUNK IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU CANNOT GET THROUGH IT
2:34:24AM ALL.
2:34:25AM I DIDN'T WANT TO.
2:34:27AM BUT WHAT I REALLY LIKED, WE LEFT THIS ONE IN HERE.
2:34:30AM ENCOURAGE SMALL AND MEDIUM SCALE DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY
2:34:33AM OF UNIQUE DESIGN TO ENHANCE TAMPA'S URBAN CHARACTER.
2:34:39AM SMALL AND MEDIUM.
2:34:41AM THIS IS EXTRA, EXTRA LARGE.
2:34:43AM I WISH MY FRIEND FROM THE FOOTBALL TEAM CAME BACK THIS TIME
2:34:46AM WHO WAS HERE LAST TIME BECAUSE HE WAS EXTRA, EXTRA LARGE.
2:34:49AM ANYWAY, I ALSO LIKE SPEAKING TO HIM, THERE ARE A LOT LESS
2:34:54AM PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT THAN THERE WERE LAST YEAR.
2:34:56AM YOU KNOW WHY?
2:34:57AM BECAUSE EVERYBODY HERE LAST YEAR DID THIS FOR FREE.
2:35:00AM EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE WHO THINKS THIS IS A GOOD IDEA IS
2:35:06AM GETTING MONEY IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
2:35:09AM I'M SORRY, BUT THE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE FOR FREE, YOU THINK
2:35:15AM ABOUT IT.
2:35:16AM NOW WE'VE GOT TO GO BACK TO OUR DENSITY.
2:35:19AM I LIKE THIS -- I NEVER CAN GET THIS THING FOCUSED.
2:35:24AM CAN I GET IT CLOSE ENOUGH?
2:35:26AM CARROLL ANN GAVE YOU A COPY OF THIS, TOO, I THINK.
2:35:29AM BUT THE INTERESTING PART IS, IT SAYS UP TO 24 STORIES FOR
2:35:33AM HIGH DENSITY.
2:35:34AM SO THIS JOKER IS TWO STORIES HIGHER THAN HIGH DENSITY THAN
2:35:40AM WHAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE.
2:35:41AM CARROLL ANN GAVE YOU A COPY.
2:35:43AM IT'S IN HER PACKET.
2:35:44AM SORRY, I CAN'T GET IT FOCUSED.
2:35:46AM IT'S 2:00 IN THE MORNING.
2:35:47AM I'M TIRED.
2:35:48AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE I GOT MY ROME YARD LAND USE, LET'S --
2:35:56AM OH!
2:35:56AM AND MR. COTTON SAID AS THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR THAT YOU
2:36:02AM GUYS HAVE TO -- YOU GUYS HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION ABOUT
2:36:05AM COMPATIBILITY.
2:36:06AM DOES IT GO WITH THE 30-FOOT HIGH GARDEN CLUB?
2:36:09AM NO, IT DOESN'T.
2:36:14AM IT DOESN'T GO NEXT DOOR.
2:36:16AM WHY ARE WE PUTTING IT THERE?
2:36:18AM IF THEY WANT TO BUILD, CAN STILL BUILD 35 UNITS TO THE ACRE
2:36:23AM ON THAT PROPERTY.
2:36:24AM THEY JUST CAN'T BUILD IT 26 STORIES HIGH AND MAKE IT $5
2:36:28AM MILLION.
2:36:28AM I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO FLABBERGASTED AT A STATEMENT IN MY LIFE
2:36:32AM AS I WAS IN THE LAST TEN MINUTES BECAUSE I CANNOT -- $5
2:36:37AM MILLION AND I'M JUST GRADUATING FROM COLLEGE.
2:36:40AM I WILL NEVER, EVER HAVE THE MONEY FOR A $5 MILLION PROPERTY
2:36:45AM AND NOR WILL THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.
2:36:48AM THIS IS NOT HELPING OUR HOUSING CRISIS.
2:36:50AM THEY CAN BUILD REASONABLY PRICED CONDOMINIUMS AND STILL MAKE
2:36:56AM A PROFIT.
2:36:58AM THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAKE $200 MILLION TO DO IT.
2:37:02AM AND I WILL REMIND YOU, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF LITTLE THINGS I
2:37:06AM NEED TO REMIND YOU OF.
2:37:08AM NUMBER ONE, I SAW THIS ARTICLE AND I HAVEN'T READ THE
2:37:11AM ARTICLE YET BUT SURE DO LIKE THE TITLE.
2:37:13AM FLORIDA DEVELOPERS WANT TO SCARE YOU INTO LETTING THEM HAVE
2:37:16AM THEIR WAY.
2:37:17AM THINK ABOUT THAT.
2:37:18AM I'LL GO TO FLUEDRA.
2:37:22AM WILL YOU?
2:37:23AM I'M TIRED OF THIS.
2:37:25AM THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
2:37:27AM HERE IS OUR PENNY.
2:37:28AM HERE IS OUR PENNY.
2:37:30AM CUT IT INTO A HUNDRED LITTLE TINY PIECES.
2:37:33AM YOU GET SEVEN OF THEM FOR FRED BALL PARK, IF THEY GET THEIR
2:37:39AM WAY.
2:37:41AM THE GARDEN CLUB AND THE ROSE CIRCLE HAVE STOOD HERE TONIGHT.
2:37:45AM THEY HAVE SHOWN YOU WHAT THEY'LL DO, REPEATEDLY, THAT THEY
2:37:50AM WILL DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY WILL DO AND THEY WILL TAKE CARE
2:37:54AM OF THE COMMUNITY AROUND THEM.
2:37:55AM THESE GUYS ARE TELLING YOU, WELL, IF WE GET OUR WAY, THEN
2:38:00AM WE'LL GIVE YOU THIS MONEY.
2:38:02AM YOU KNOW, MS. EVERETT, NEVER MET HER BEFORE.
2:38:05AM I THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING HOW GENEROUS THEY ARE.
2:38:08AM THESE FOLKS ARE SO, SO GENEROUS, WHY HAVEN'T THEY ALREADY
2:38:11AM GIVEN THE MONEY TO FRED BALL PARK.
2:38:13AM WHY DO THEY NEED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO DO IT?
2:38:15AM BOTTOM LINE IS, THEY NEED A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT BECAUSE
2:38:19AM THEY ARE HOPING LIKE HELL THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE IMPRESSED
2:38:21AM AND GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT.
2:38:23AM I HAVE BIGGER FAITH IN YOU.
2:38:27AM I KNOW EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU PERSONALLY AND I HAVE
2:38:30AM BIGGER FAITH IN YOU.
2:38:32AM YOU ARE NOT THE STOVALL HOUSE COUNCIL AND I AM SURE AS HELL
2:38:36AM GLAD OF IT.
2:38:37AM THANK YOU.
2:38:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:38:39AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
2:38:41AM MR. SHELBY, IS IT THE TRADITIONAL FIVE MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL?
2:38:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CREMER, YOU'VE READ THE RULES OF
2:38:53AM PROCEDURE.
2:38:56AM YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S BEEN SAID.
2:38:58AM YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REBUT.
2:39:01AM PER COUNCIL'S RULES, YOU'RE ALLOWED FIVE MINUTES UNLESS
2:39:04AM BECAUSE OF DUE PROCESS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES MORE.
2:39:09AM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT -- HOW MUCH SHOULD -- HOW MUCH ARE
2:39:14AM YOU REQUESTING THE TIME TO BE SET FOR IS MY QUESTION?
2:39:17AM >> MR. CHAIR, I WOULD REQUEST FIVE EXTRA MINUTES FOR TEN
2:39:21AM MINUTES IN LIGHT OF THE SEVERAL HOURS OF COMMENT.
2:39:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FINE.
2:39:25AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
2:39:26AM YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES FOR REBUTTAL.
2:39:28AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
2:39:30AM >> COULD WE PULL MY PRESENTATION BACK UP, PLEASE?
2:39:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE COULD HAVE QUIET, PLEASE.
2:39:35AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
2:39:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT YOUR ORIGINAL PRESENTATION
2:39:57AM BROUGHT UP?
2:39:58AM >> YES, PLEASE.
2:39:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CTTV, IF WE CAN BRING UP HIS ORIGINAL
2:40:02AM INITIAL PRESENTATION.
2:40:03AM THERE IT IS.
2:40:03AM IT WILL BE UP ON THE BIG SCREEN IN A SECOND.
2:40:08AM STATE YOUR NAME.
2:40:13AM YOU HAVE TEN MINUTES.
2:40:14AM >> JAKE CREMER WITH STEARNS WEAVER MILLER.
2:40:17AM I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP A COUPLE OF EXPERTS FIRST.
2:40:20AM THANK YOU.
2:40:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE COULD HAVE SILENCE IN THE ROOM.
2:40:24AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:40:25AM GO AHEAD, MR. PETERIKA.
2:40:29AM >> PETERIKA.
2:40:30AM I HAVE BEEN SWORN.
2:40:32AM QUICK HYPOTHETICAL.
2:40:33AM WITH THE GRAND TREES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESERVED AND THE
2:40:37AM PROTECTED TREES PROPOSED TO REMOVE, THERE'S NO MITIGATION
2:40:40AM REQUIRED.
2:40:41AM BUT IF THERE WERE, AND WE EXCLUDED THE GRAND TREES, WE HAVE
2:40:45AM TO MITIGATE 46, TWO AND A HALF INCH TREES AND REQUIRED TO
2:40:50AM PLANT 38, TWO AND A HALF INCH TREES, WHICH TOTALS 210 INCHES
2:40:56AM IN TOTAL ONCE IT GOES TO PERMIT.
2:40:59AM CURRENTLY, WITH THE LANDSCAPE PLANS SUBMITTED, WITH
2:41:04AM 20 10-INCH OAKS PROPOSED, THERE'S 222 INCHES PROPOSED BACK
2:41:10AM ON THE SITE.
2:41:12AM WHICH THE INTENT OF THAT MITIGATION CALCULATION, TWO AND A
2:41:17AM HALF INCHES IS TO REPLACE THE CANOPY IN FIVE YEARS.
2:41:20AM WE'RE REPLACING MORE THAN THAT USING A CONJURED EXTRA
2:41:26AM MITIGATION METHOD THAT I'M JUST USING TO EXPLAIN IT ON HOW
2:41:30AM MUCH MORE WE'RE PROVIDING CANOPY BACK THAN WOULD BE
2:41:33AM REQUIRED.
2:41:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
2:41:37AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
2:41:41AM >> GOOD EVENING.
2:41:42AM DAVID SMITH, STEARNS WEAVER MILLER.
2:41:44AM MAKE IT VERY BRIEF.
2:41:46AM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF STATEMENTS ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE MATRIX,
2:41:50AM HOW TALL AND HOW TALL CAN YOU BE IN VARIOUS CATEGORIES.
2:41:54AM I THINK THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS THAT THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE IN
2:41:57AM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ARE NOT MAXIMUM HEIGHTS.
2:42:03AM THEY ARE TYPICAL HEIGHTS.
2:42:04AM KEY CHARACTERISTICS OF THE DISTRICTS.
2:42:05AM BECAUSE IF THAT WAS NOT THE CASE, THE ALTURA, CMU 35 WOULD
2:42:11AM HAVE ONLY BEEN APPROVED FOR FIVE STORIES.
2:42:13AM CLEARLY IT'S NOT.
2:42:15AM IF YOU LOOK AT ANY OTHER RM 50 CATEGORY OR ANY OF THE
2:42:21AM DEVELOPMENTS THAT OCCURRED THERE, IF THEY WENT IN THOSE
2:42:23AM HEIGHT RANGES, THEY WOULD ALL BE MUCH, MUCH SHORTER.
2:42:26AM THOSE WERE JUST PLANNING GUIDELINES THAT SAYING, HEY,
2:42:31AM TYPICALLY THIS IS WHAT THE HEIGHT WOULD BE AND ALSO WHEN YOU
2:42:33AM HAD STANDARD ZONING DISTRICTS, USUALLY THE STANDARD ZONING
2:42:37AM DISTRICTS REFLECT THOSE LOWER CAPS.
2:42:40AM GETTING BACK TO MR. GAUTHIER'S TESTIMONY, CLEARLY
2:42:46AM MR. GAUTHIER HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE BUT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT
2:42:49AM OF EXPERIENCE IN TAMPA.
2:42:50AM I'VE GONE THROUGH HIS REPORT.
2:42:53AM THERE ARE SEVERAL REFERENCES TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICIES
2:42:57AM THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY APPLICABLE TO THIS CASE.
2:43:01AM THEY DEAL WITH NONRESIDENTIAL BEING PROPOSED IN AN AREA OF
2:43:06AM RESIDENTIAL.
2:43:06AM SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THERE ARE SEVERAL ERRORS IN HIS
2:43:12AM REPORT.
2:43:12AM ALSO, IF YOU TOOK HIS POINT OF VIEW IS THAT COMPREHENSIVE
2:43:16AM PLAN DOESN'T MATTER.
2:43:17AM YOU CAN CHANGE IT AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT.
2:43:19AM BUT IF THERE WAS A SINGLE STORY HOUSE THERE IN 1960 AND
2:43:23AM THERE IS A SINGLE STORY HOUSE THERE NOW, YOU CAN'T HAVE
2:43:26AM ANYTHING TALLER THAN A SINGLE STORY HOUSE.
2:43:28AM WE ALL KNOW THAT THE EVOLUTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING
2:43:33AM IN THIS CITY AND ACROSS THE STATE HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME SO
2:43:37AM THE NEW GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND THE DEMANDS ARE REFLECTED
2:43:40AM IN THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
2:43:42AM IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE TO CONSIDER COMPATIBILITY,
2:43:45AM BUT I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT CONTEXT, MANY MORE TALL BUILDINGS
2:43:49AM ARE LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO SINGLE-FAMILY, RIGHT NEXT TO
2:43:53AM TOWNHOME WITHOUT HAVING A NEGATIVE ADVERSE EFFECT.
2:43:57AM LAST COMMENT ON THE GARDEN CLUB AND THE VENUE.
2:43:59AM I BELIEVE THERE WAS A MISCHARACTERIZATION OF THE
2:44:05AM ORIENTATION.
2:44:05AM THE BUILDING WAS ACTUALLY ORIENTED MORE DIRECTLY TOWARDS
2:44:08AM BAYSHORE, NOT DIRECTLY AT THE EVENT CENTER.
2:44:11AM THE SEPARATION OF -- THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 208 FEET FROM
2:44:15AM THE PODIUM AND AS YOU GET HIGHER UP, GEOMETRY IS NOT REALLY
2:44:20AM MY STRONG SUIT, BUT YOU ACTUALLY GET FURTHER AWAY ON THE
2:44:24AM SITE DISTANCE BASIS.
2:44:25AM SO THAT THIS PRYING, LOOKING, HANGING OVER, LOOKING AT THE
2:44:31AM WEDDING VENUE IS NOT A REALITY.
2:44:34AM THE REALITY IS THAT THERE'S 200 PLUS FOOT SEPARATION FROM
2:44:39AM THE GARDEN AREA, TREES IN BETWEEN, AND THIS BUILDING WILL
2:44:47AM NOT BE HANGING OVER THE EVENT CENTER.
2:44:48AM WITH THAT I CONCLUDE MY REMARKS BECAUSE IT IS A LATE NIGHT.
2:44:52AM I COULD PROBABLY GO ON AND ON AND YOU ALL HAVE HEARD ME DO
2:44:55AM THAT BEFORE.
2:44:56AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:44:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NEED SILENCE IN THE AUDIENCE.
2:44:59AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:45:03AM MR. CREMER, GO AHEAD.
2:45:04AM >> JAKE CREMER AGAIN.
2:45:06AM IF WE COULD PULL MY PRESENTATION BACK UP ON YOUR SCREENS,
2:45:09AM PLEASE.
2:45:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
2:45:11AM >> THANK YOU.
2:45:12AM MY FRIEND MS. POYNOR AND I RARELY AGREE ON THINGS, BUT SHE
2:45:18AM DID BRING UP A COUPLE OF GOOD POINTS.
2:45:20AM I WANT TO GIVE ASSURANCE THAT THE HEIGHT UNDER THE CODE THAT
2:45:23AM WE ARE PROPOSING IS 317 FEET.
2:45:28AM ON TOP OF THAT, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST OF COUNCIL,
2:45:31AM I'VE SPOKEN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE WILL COMMIT TO
2:45:35AM THAT BEING A SITE PLAN REQUIREMENT SO THAT WE CANNOT GO
2:45:38AM THROUGH THE SUBCHANGE PROCESS AND INCREASE THAT LATER.
2:45:41AM ALTURA, BY THE WAY, HAS GONE THROUGH A SUBCHANGE PROCESS TO
2:45:46AM INCREASE THEIR RESTAURANT ENTITLEMENTS, SO WE ARE GIVING UP
2:45:50AM THE ABILITY TO CHANGE OUR HEIGHT THROUGH AN ADMINISTRATIVE
2:45:52AM PROCESS.
2:45:53AM I'LL OFFER THAT ON THE RECORD.
2:45:56AM THE OTHER POINTS SHE RAISED WAS THE PICKLEBALL COURT.
2:46:00AM THE PICKLEBALL COURT IS GONE.
2:46:02AM THE PICKLEBALL COURT HAS BEEN GONE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
2:46:05AM GIVE PEOPLE ASSURANCE, WE HAVE PROPOSED A CONDITION TO STAFF
2:46:08AM AND IT SAYS, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHALL THE OUTDOOR
2:46:12AM AMENITY DECK INCLUDE A SPORT COURT, INCLUDING PICKLEBALL,
2:46:15AM BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL, BADMINTON OR TENNIS.
2:46:19AM IF YOU THINK OF ANY OTHER, WE WILL PUT THEM IN.
2:46:23AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, THE THIRD CONDITION THAT WE'RE
2:46:25AM OFFERING TONIGHT -- AGAIN, THIS BASED ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK
2:46:27AM AND WE HEARD SOME TONIGHT, CONCERNS ABOUT THE ELDERLY AND
2:46:33AM SAFETY ON YSABELLA.
2:46:34AM THE SIDEWALK THAT IS ACROSS YSABELLA FROM OUR SITE THAT WE
2:46:38AM ARE PROPOSING TO FILL IN THAT GAP, WE HAVE PROPOSED LANGUAGE
2:46:43AM SO THAT THAT -- WE WILL WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS SO THAT THAT
2:46:47AM SIDEWALK SEGMENT IS CONSTRUCTED BEFORE THE CLOSURE OF ANY
2:46:55AM RIGHT-OF-WAY ON OUR PROJECT.
2:46:56AM IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE -- WE WILL CONSTRUCT THAT SIDEWALK
2:46:59AM ABSOLUTELY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
2:47:01AM I'LL PLACE THIS CASE IN THE RECORD.
2:47:10AM THERE WERE QUITE A FEW COMMENTS ABOUT SHADE, LIGHT, VIEWS.
2:47:16AM THE FONTAINEBLEAU CASE FROM 1959 WE'VE KNOWN FOR A VERY,
2:47:20AM VERY LONG TIME.
2:47:21AM NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO VIEW.
2:47:23AM NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO AIR.
2:47:25AM NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO LIGHT IN FLORIDA.
2:47:29AM THAT IS WHAT THE CASES SAY, UNLESS THEY BUY IT.
2:47:31AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN.
2:47:33AM CAN YOU STOP THE CLOCK, PLEASE?
2:47:34AM FORGIVE ME, BUT COUNCIL AND THE CHAIR DID ASK PEOPLE IN THE
2:47:40AM AUDIENCE TO BE QUIET.
2:47:42AM MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU FIND THIS DISRUPTIVE, YOU CAN RULE THEM
2:47:45AM OUT OF ORDER AND HAVE THEM REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS.
2:47:48AM I'M GOING TO ASK IF THE CHAIR WOULD PLEASE INSTRUCT THEM
2:47:52AM THAT IF THEY DO, THEY MIGHT VERY WELL BE RULED OUT OF ORDER
2:47:56AM IF THEY DISRUPT.
2:47:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
2:48:00AM IT'S 2:50.
2:48:02AM I UNDERSTAND FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE ARE FRUSTRATED AND
2:48:04AM SOMETIMES WHEN IT'S REALLY, REALLY LATE YOU LOSE YOUR
2:48:07AM FACULTIES A LITTLE BIT.
2:48:09AM I'VE PRIVATELY DONE THAT MYSELF UP HERE.
2:48:11AM BUT I WOULD JUST ASK THAT EVERYBODY JUST KEEP IT AS QUIET AS
2:48:15AM POSSIBLE AND WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS.
2:48:17AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
2:48:18AM THANK YOU.
2:48:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CREMER, YOU MENTIONED THE WHAT CASE
2:48:23AM FROM 1959?
2:48:25AM >> THE FONTAINEBLEU.
2:48:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IN MIAMI?
2:48:30AM >> HAPPY TO ENTER THAT IN RECORD.
2:48:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SUFFICIENT COPIES FOR THE COUNCIL?
2:48:38AM >> I HAVE A COPY WE CAN PASS.
2:48:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WANT THIS ENTERED INTO THE RECORD?
2:48:43AM >> YES.
2:48:44AM IT'S BEEN A WHILE BUT I WANTED TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS
2:48:54AM THAT MR. PRESSMAN SAID.
2:48:56AM MR. PRESSMAN, I ALMOST FORGOT THAT THE GARDEN CLUB WAS ON
2:48:59AM BAYSHORE AND THE EVENT VENUE WAS ON BAYSHORE WHEN HE WAS
2:49:03AM SPEAKING.
2:49:04AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE WEBSITE, WHAT THEY ARE POINTING TO IS
2:49:07AM THEIR VIEWS ON BAYSHORE, OF BAYSHORE.
2:49:09AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, WHEN YOU
2:49:12AM LOOK AT THEIR GARDEN CENTER, THIS IS WHERE THEY HAVE THE
2:49:16AM WEDDINGS.
2:49:17AM IN THE BACKGROUND IS THE SAME SYNAGOGUE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING
2:49:21AM TO YOU WOULD BE THE BUFFER.
2:49:25AM AND LET'S BE HONEST, URBAN WEDDINGS ARE NOT UNUSUAL.
2:49:32AM IF YOU LOOK AT TAMPA MARRIOTT WATERSIDE, SARASOTA RITZ,
2:49:37AM THESE ARE VERY DENSE URBAN ENVIRONMENTS THAT ARE IN A
2:49:42AM WEDDING, THEY ARE WEDDINGS IN A HOTEL AND THEY ARE AT THE
2:49:47AM BOTTOM OF THE HOTEL.
2:49:48AM SO ANYONE CAN VIEW THOSE.
2:49:50AM THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL.
2:49:52AM PEOPLE BOOK THESE WEDDINGS ALL DAY LONG.
2:49:55AM THE SURFACE PARKING LOT NEXT DOOR, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE
2:50:07AM ADJACENT TO.
2:50:08AM WE'RE ADJACENT TO A DIRT SURFACE PARKING LOT.
2:50:12AM ON ONE SIDE.
2:50:14AM THIS IS A PRETTY INTENSE USE.
2:50:19AM MR. PRESSMAN'S PRESENTATION MENTIONED THAT THEY CAN HAVE UP
2:50:23AM TO 1500 PEOPLE AT A TIME.
2:50:27AM THIS IS THE ADJACENT USE.
2:50:29AM THIS IS AN INTENSE URBAN USE.
2:50:33AM AND, BOY, THOSE CARS ARE PARKED AWFULLY CLOSE TO THE TREES.
2:50:37AM THIS IS WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE.
2:50:39AM THIS IS WHAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR PROPOSED
2:50:41AM DEVELOPMENT.
2:50:44AM THE ALTURA TOWER.
2:50:45AM IT'S A VERY CLOSE COMPARABLE.
2:50:47AM LOOK, WE REALIZE THAT CHANGE IS HARD.
2:50:53AM WE WILL ABSOLUTELY COMMIT IF IT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO MOVE
2:50:56AM THIS FORWARD, WE WILL COMMIT TO SITTING DOWN WITH THE GARDEN
2:50:59AM CLUB AND SEEING IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A WAY TO WORK
2:51:02AM TOGETHER AND GIVE THEM THE COMMITMENT ON HOW WE CAN HELP
2:51:04AM THEM DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
2:51:06AM IT'S A TWO-WAY STREET BUT WE WILL ABSOLUTELY SIT DOWN WITH
2:51:10AM THEM.
2:51:10AM FOR THIS APPLICATION, THE LAW IS VERY CLEAR.
2:51:14AM A CASE CALLED SNYDER THAT SAYS ONCE WE MEET OUR BURDEN, THE
2:51:18AM BURDEN SHIFTS TO THE OPPONENTS TO SHOW THAT USE OF OUR
2:51:23AM PROPERTY IS REASONABLE.
2:51:23AM THEY HAVE NOT DONE THAT.
2:51:25AM YOU CANNOT TELL ME THAT HAVING OUR PROPERTY AS A PARKING LOT
2:51:30AM IS REASONABLE WHEN THIS IS NEXT DOOR.
2:51:33AM THANK YOU.
2:51:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CREMER.
2:51:35AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
2:51:37AM BUT MR. SHELBY.
2:51:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE A QUESTION.
2:51:39AM MAY I INQUIRE OF MR. CREMER?
2:51:41AM MR. CREMER, EARLY ON AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS HEARING, YOU
2:51:47AM PROVIDED FOR THE RECORD AND PASSED OUT TO COUNCIL TWO
2:51:50AM CONDITIONS THAT YOU WERE GOING TO PRESENT AND IT APPEARS YOU
2:51:56AM REFERENCED THOSE TWO IN YOUR REBUTTAL WILL YOU ALSO ADDED A
2:52:00AM THIRD ONE, IS THAT CORRECT?
2:52:02AM >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
2:52:03AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL DOES HAVE THE FIRST TWO AND YOU
2:52:05AM HAVE AGREED TO ADD THE THIRD ONE WITH REGARD TO THE HEIGHT
2:52:09AM OF THE BUILDING.
2:52:09AM >> THE THIRD, I'VE SPOKEN TO MS. WELLS AND WE WOULD HAVE TO
2:52:12AM WORK OUT THE LANGUAGE OF THAT TO COME BACK FOR SECOND
2:52:15AM READING OF THAT THIRD CONDITION.
2:52:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:52:18AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
2:52:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, SIR, EARLIER ONE OF YOUR OTHER
2:52:23AM PRESENTERS REFERRED TO A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
2:52:25AM I'VE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN THIS
2:52:28AM PROPOSED PROPERTY AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
2:52:32AM ONLY THING I FOUND ON YOUR SITE PLAN WAS THE TREE
2:52:37AM ASSESSMENT, NOT NECESSARILY A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
2:52:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
2:52:47AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
2:52:48AM >> KELSEY.
2:52:49AM I AM THE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
2:52:51AM LOCATED AT 307 SOUTH 21st AVENUE, HOLLYWOOD, FLORIDA.
2:52:58AM I DO BELIEVE THERE WAS A LANDSCAPE PLAN PREPARED AND SHOULD
2:53:03AM HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.
2:53:04AM I KNOW NATURAL RESOURCES FOUND IT CONSISTENT.
2:53:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M ACTUALLY ONLINE AND IT'S NOT THERE.
2:53:13AM >> NO PROBLEM.
2:53:15AM >> THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IS NOT A PART OF THE PD.
2:53:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
2:53:21AM >> IT'S NOT A PD REQUIREMENT.
2:53:22AM YOU ASKED ABOUT THE PLAN --
2:53:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IMPORTANT ELEMENT IS THE BUFFER BETWEEN
2:53:35AM YOUR CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
2:53:38AM AND SOME OF THAT I THINK -- IN FACT, REFERRED TO A COUPLE OF
2:53:42AM TIMES IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THAT AND SPECIFICALLY YOUR
2:53:50AM COPRESENTER A FEW MOMENTS AGO REFERRED TO THE LANDSCAPE
2:53:54AM PLAN.
2:53:54AM IT'S BEEN HANGING OUT THERE WITHOUT DOCUMENTATION.
2:53:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL BRING IT UP ON THE OVERHEAD HERE.
2:54:03AM >> I CAN SPEAK TO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING AS A BUFFER IN
2:54:06AM BETWEEN OUR PROPERTIES AND THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
2:54:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S COMING UP.
2:54:13AM THERE WE GO.
2:54:17AM >> DURING THE LAST HEARING WE DID BRING IN AND CHANGE OUR
2:54:22AM PLAN IN RESPONSE TO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS WE HEARD HERE.
2:54:25AM AND ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO THE GARDEN CLUB AND BUFFERING
2:54:29AM OUR PROPERTY FROM THEIRS.
2:54:33AM SO WE HAVE PROPOSED TO KEEP THE CURRENT TREE BUFFER THAT
2:54:38AM THEY HAVE IN PLACE AS WELL AS PROVIDE SHRUBS AND OTHER
2:54:43AM GROUND COVER AT A HIGH LEVEL AND ADDITIONALLY SOME VERY
2:54:47AM LARGE LIVE OAKS THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE VISUAL BUFFER IN
2:54:51AM BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THEIRS IN ADDITION TO THE GREEN
2:54:55AM WALL WE ARE PROPOSING ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PARKING
2:54:57AM STRUCTURE.
2:54:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN?
2:55:00AM >> KELSEY TRUHECKY.
2:55:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:55:04AM DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
2:55:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW IF IT DOES OR NOT.
2:55:13AM I SEE A LOT OF CIRCLES AND A DOT BUT NOT A LOT OF
2:55:16AM EXPLANATION OR A LOT OF CLARITY OF WHAT THAT IS ACTUALLY
2:55:19AM GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND HOW IT ACTUALLY PROVIDES.
2:55:23AM AND I SEE ONE OF THE CITY STAFF --
2:55:28AM >> ERIN MAEHR, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:55:35AM THESE LARGER CIRCLES HERE ARE -- THEY ARE PROPOSING TWENTY
2:55:39AM 10-INCH CALIPER LIVE OAKS.
2:55:41AM A NORMAL REPLACEMENT TREE IS TWO AND A HALF INCHES IN
2:55:45AM CALIPER.
2:55:46AM SO THESE ARE FIVE TIMES AS LARGE AS THAT.
2:55:48AM IN ADDITION, YOU CAN SEE HERE ALONG THE VUA BUFFER, ALONG
2:55:53AM YSABELLA AND THEN ALONG THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE GARDEN CLUB
2:55:57AM AND THE NEW BUILDING AND THE PROJECT IS PROVIDING 20-FOOT
2:56:02AM SETBACKS FOR THESE TREES, WHICH CAN ACCOMMODATE THEM AND
2:56:07AM THEY HAVE SPACED OUT THESE TYPE ONE LIVE OAKS WELL SO THEY
2:56:11AM CAN ACTUALLY FORM, YOU KNOW, AMPLE CANOPY.
2:56:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THERE A LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE EXISTING
2:56:19AM PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN, THE
2:56:21AM EXISTING BUILDING?
2:56:23AM >> DID THEY PUT LANDSCAPING ON THE OLD PORTION?
2:56:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOING IN THAT AREA?
2:56:28AM >> YES, THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL NEW TREES ON THE EXISTING
2:56:32AM PORTION AS WELL.
2:56:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT ABOUT THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE GARDEN
2:56:37AM CLUB, WEDDING VENUE AND THE TEMPLE TO KIND OF SMOOTH OUT
2:56:41AM THAT TRANSITION BETWEEN THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THE NEW
2:56:45AM BUILDING?
2:56:46AM >> NOTHING NEW IS PROPOSED ALONG HERE EXCEPT FOR THE
2:56:50AM EXISTING TREES THAT EXIST.
2:56:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU NO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
2:56:53AM ANYBODY ELSE?
2:56:54AM YES, SIR, MR. CREMER.
2:57:00AM >> MAY WE BRING MY PRESENTATION BACK UP?
2:57:03AM I THINK THERE IS A SLIDE THAT MAY HELP ADDRESS ONE OF
2:57:06AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN'S QUESTIONS.
2:57:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHICH SLIDE?
2:57:12AM >> THE SLIDE ON THE GREEN WALL, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE SOME OF
2:57:15AM THE TREE CANOPY.
2:57:16AM I WANTED TO SHOW THE EXISTING TREE CANOPY THERE THAT WILL BE
2:57:25AM PRESERVED.
2:57:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THAT AN ACTUAL PHOTO OF WHAT EXISTS
2:57:31AM THERE NOW OR IS THAT SUPPLEMENTED?
2:57:35AM >> IT IS SUPPLEMENTED ONLY WITH THE PROPOSED TOWER OVERLAID
2:57:41AM ONTO THE EXISTING GRAPHIC.
2:57:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BUT THE TREE CANOPY IS EXISTING?
2:57:45AM >> YES, SIR, THE TREE CANOPY IS EXISTING.
2:57:47AM I ALSO JUST SPOKE TO STAFF, THE LANDSCAPING PLAN IS NOT
2:57:51AM NORMALLY ATTACHED TO THE PD SET PLAN, BUT WE WOULD BE
2:57:55AM WILLING TO ATTACH THE PLAN WE JUST SHOWED TO YOU THE PD.
2:58:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
2:58:01AM WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
2:58:05AM DO YOU WISH TO CLOSE THE HEARING?
2:58:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO CLOSE.
2:58:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, MS. DOCK.
2:58:12AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
2:58:14AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
2:58:16AM JUST FOR THE RECORD, THERE ARE FOUR ITEMS TO BE AMENDED ON
2:58:20AM THE REVISION SHEET.
2:58:22AM IS WHAT I COUNT SO FAR.
2:58:25AM SO THAT'S THE WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS ON THE CONSTRUCTION
2:58:28AM OF THE SIDEWALK.
2:58:29AM THAT IS THE OUTDOOR AMENITY BEING LIMITED TO CERTAIN
2:58:35AM ACTIVITIES AND NOT HAVING THE OUTDOOR AMENITY DECK, INCLUDE
2:58:39AM A PICKLEBALL COURT, ET CETERA.
2:58:42AM AND THEN THE THIRD ITEM IS TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT TO 317 FEET.
2:58:46AM THE FOURTH ITEM IS TO ATTACH THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IN THE PD
2:58:51AM SITE PLAN PACKAGE.
2:58:52AM AND THAT WOULD BE ON THE REVISED REVISION SHEET.
2:58:57AM THIS IS IN ADDITION TO THE REVISION SHEET PROVIDED IN THE
2:59:00AM REPORT.
2:59:00AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
2:59:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN INQUIRE
2:59:05AM MR. CREMER AS TO THE FOURTH ITEM TO ATTACH THE LANDSCAPE
2:59:08AM PLAN TO THE SITE PLAN, DID YOU AGREE TO THAT?
2:59:10AM >> YES, I DID.
2:59:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: VERY GOOD.
2:59:14AM WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS THAT WOULD BE ADDED. MOTION TO CLOSE
2:59:19AM FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
2:59:20AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
2:59:22AM ALL IN FAVOR?
2:59:22AM AYE.
2:59:23AM THE HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.
2:59:33AM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
2:59:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS.
2:59:38AM I THINK I'M GOING TO START BY SAYING NO ONE IS OWED A PD.
2:59:51AM NO ONE IS OWED A PD.
2:59:54AM NO ONE IS OWED A PD.
2:59:56AM AND THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THIS IS R 35 FOR THE ENTIRE
3:00:06AM BLOCK, WHICH IS 8 STORIES AND I'M NOT SURE WHY A BUILDING
3:00:12AM CAN'T BE BUILT IN 8 STORIES TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT THEY WANT TO
3:00:16AM ACCOMPLISH.
3:00:17AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE 5,000-SQUARE-FOOT APARTMENTS.
3:00:21AM IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO.
3:00:24AM PEOPLE SAID THAT IT'S UNUSUAL.
3:00:30AM IT IS AN UNUSUAL PIECE.
3:00:32AM THIS PART OF BAYSHORE IS UNUSUAL.
3:00:38AM IT HAS AND AS TESTIMONY SHOWED VERY SPECIFIC USES THAT YOU
3:00:42AM DON'T SEE ALONG THE REST OF BAYSHORE.
3:00:44AM AND I BELIEVE IT IS INCONSISTENT.
3:00:54AM I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS AND THIS IS A DIFFERENT
3:00:58AM COUNCIL THAN THE STOVALL HOUSE COUNCIL, THAN THE OTHER
3:01:02AM WHATEVER TOWER THINGS.
3:01:05AM WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK AS OUR FUTURE LAND USE WHAT WE WANT
3:01:07AM THIS AREA TO LOOK LIKE.
3:01:10AM WE CAN DEFINE THAT AND WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY WHAT
3:01:13AM THEY WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE.
3:01:16AM I THINK THEY CAN BUILD SOMETHING WITHIN THE EIGHT STORIES.
3:01:20AM THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A RIGHT
3:01:24AM TO A PD.
3:01:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:01:27AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
3:01:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST COMMENTS.
3:01:32AM I VOTED AGAINST THE RITZ-CARLTON FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
3:01:38AM ONE OF THEM IS THAT THE BUILDING WAS 23 FEET FROM THE
3:01:41AM BUILDING NEXT TO IT.
3:01:42AM EVERY TIME I DRIVE BY, I AM 100% HAPPY WITH THAT DECISION
3:01:47AM EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THE MEDIA SAID WHY WAS COUNCIL SO STUPID
3:01:50AM TO -- WHY WERE SO COUNCIL MEMBERS SO STUPID TO VOTE AGAINST
3:01:53AM THAT.
3:01:54AM PROBABLY WE'LL GET SIMILAR TOMORROW.
3:01:57AM WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO IS STICK TO WHAT THE RULES ARE.
3:02:01AM THE RULES ARE THERE TO PROTECT PROPERTY OWNERS.
3:02:03AM THERE ARE A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND HERE WHO HAVE
3:02:07AM EXPECTATION OF STABILITY AND PREDICTABILITY IN LAND USE.
3:02:15AM SO WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN AND WANTS TO CHANGE THE RULES,
3:02:19AM THEN WE LOOK AT IT AND WE HAVE TO WEIGH THE COMPETENT
3:02:24AM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
3:02:25AM THERE'S STACKS AND STACKS OF COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
3:02:28AM IN OPPOSITION TO THIS.
3:02:32AM AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN ENTITLEMENT TO THIS HUGE
3:02:35AM MASSING AND SCALE AND DENSITY, HEIGHT.
3:02:39AM AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, A SMALLER PROJECT -- THE PROPOSER MADE
3:02:46AM A COMMENT, ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHT TO DO
3:02:50AM ANYTHING AND JUST MAKE US HAVE A PARKING LOT?
3:02:52AM NO.
3:02:54AM BUT AS THE PUBLIC SHOWED, IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME
3:02:58AM BUILDING.
3:02:58AM IT'S ONLY SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
3:03:00AM AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU FROM YEARS OF BEING INVOLVED IN
3:03:05AM PROJECTS LIKE THIS IN THE PAST, THIS IS THE -- AND SINCE
3:03:10AM I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, I NEVER HAD FIVE HOURS OF PUBLIC
3:03:14AM FEEDBACK.
3:03:15AM THIS IS THE WORST RELATIONSHIP I'VE EVER SEEN BETWEEN A
3:03:19AM DEVELOPER AND THE PUBLIC.
3:03:20AM WHATEVER HAPPENS TONIGHT, I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY GOES BACK
3:03:24AM BECAUSE THIS IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT AND TIME THAT'S
3:03:28AM UNNECESSARY IF THE PUBLIC AND THE DEVELOPERS HAVE A POSITIVE
3:03:33AM RELATIONSHIP.
3:03:34AM ALSO, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE JEWISH COMMUNITY OVER THE
3:03:41AM YEARS.
3:03:41AM I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN RODEPH.
3:03:44AM MY SON MORE THAN 20 YEARS AGO WENT TO JCC.
3:03:48AM NONE OF THE STUFF ABOUT RELIGION OR THE USE OF THE SYNAGOGUE
3:03:51AM IS COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND IN MY OPINION WE CAN'T
3:03:56AM CONSIDER ANY OF THAT.
3:03:57AM IF ANYBODY SAYS, WELL, YOU VOTED FOR OR AGAINST THIS BECAUSE
3:04:02AM YOU'RE IN FAVOR, AGAINST THE JEWISH COMMUNITY, NONE OF THAT
3:04:05AM IS EVIDENCE.
3:04:06AM JUST LIKE IT WOULDN'T BE ANYWHERE ELSE.
3:04:09AM WE HAVE TO SET THAT ASIDE AND JUST LOOK AT THE RULES AND THE
3:04:12AM LAND USE.
3:04:12AM AND I THINK BASED ON THE HEIGHT AND SCALE AND EVERYTHING, I
3:04:17AM THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT
3:04:20AM WE CAN GO THROUGH.
3:04:21AM WHATEVER HAPPENS, I KNOW THE DEVELOPER HAS A GREAT
3:04:25AM REPUTATION AND I HOPE THAT THIS RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE
3:04:29AM COMMUNITY AND THE DEVELOPER IMPROVES IN THE FUTURE SO WE CAN
3:04:33AM APPROVE GREAT INVESTMENTS IN THE FUTURE.
3:04:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME GIVE SOME THOUGHTS.
3:04:38AM I APPRECIATE.
3:04:39AM ALWAYS, BY THE WAY, DANGEROUS TO TALK AT 3:05 A.M. AS AN
3:04:44AM ELECTED OFFICIAL.
3:04:45AM PARDON ME FOR ANY MISTAKES.
3:04:49AM I KNOW EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL AGREES, I REALLY APPRECIATE
3:04:52AM EVERYBODY BEING HERE AT 3 A.M.
3:04:54AM I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN THAT AT CITY COUNCIL IN MY SIX,
3:04:59AM SEVEN YEARS, HOWEVER LONG I'VE BEEN ON.
3:05:02AM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS CASE IS ABOUT
3:05:05AM AND IS NOT ABOUT BECAUSE WHEN WE VOTE ON SOMETHING I THINK
3:05:11AM THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT SHOULD BE LEFT OFF THE TABLE.
3:05:14AM ONE OF THEM IS RELATED GROUP, WHETHER THERE'S PEOPLE WHO GO
3:05:17AM WE LOVE THEM, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT GO WE DON'T LOVE THEM.
3:05:21AM THAT TO ME HAS NO RELEVANCY.
3:05:23AM IT'S NOT COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN THIS CASE.
3:05:27AM THE USE OF THE LAND AND LIKE COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, THE
3:05:31AM ISSUE OF FAITH AND RELIGIOUS AFFILIATION HAS NO BEARING ON
3:05:34AM THIS CASE.
3:05:36AM THERE WERE MENTIONS A COUPLE ON RELIGIOUS BIAS.
3:05:41AM OBVIOUSLY A VERY BIG ISSUE TODAY, ANTI-SEMITISM, I'VE BEEN
3:05:45AM VERY OUTSPOKEN ON THAT ISSUE, BUT IT'S NOT RELEVANT IN THE
3:05:49AM ANALYSIS HERE, IN MY OPINION.
3:05:52AM THREATS TO MOVE.
3:05:53AM I DON'T WANT TO SAY THREATS.
3:05:54AM AGAIN, 3 A.M.
3:05:56AM STATEMENTS THAT POTENTIALLY THE SYNAGOGUE MAY MOVE IF THIS
3:05:59AM DOESN'T GO FORWARD.
3:06:00AM NOT RELEVANT TO THIS CASE.
3:06:03AM TAXES, THE CITY OF TAMPA COLLECTING MORE TAXES IF THIS
3:06:06AM PASSES.
3:06:08AM TO ME, NOT RELEVANT.
3:06:09AM YOU GOT TO HAVE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
3:06:15AM I ALWAYS SAY IF YOU HAVE A STOOL YOU HAVE TO HAVE LEGS TO
3:06:19AM SUPPORT A STOOL.
3:06:20AM WHETHER YOU VOTE FOR SOMETHING OR AGAINST SOMETHING.
3:06:23AM I ALWAYS SAY IN MAKING VOTES ON LAND USE DECISIONS, I'M AN
3:06:29AM ATTORNEY, PRACTICED LAW FOR, GOSH, OVER 20 YEARS.
3:06:37AM SOMETIMES I DON'T FEEL LIKE A 20-YEAR LAWYER, BUT I GUESS I
3:06:37AM AM ACCORDING TO THE FLORIDA BAR.
3:06:37AM AND I VOTED NO THE FIRST TIME THIS CAME THROUGH, AND I WAS
3:06:41AM VERY OUTSPOKEN ON THAT BECAUSE THERE WERE TOO MANY WAIVERS.
3:06:45AM IT WAS A SIZE 40 WAIST IN SIZE 34 PANTS.
3:06:50AM I WAS VERY OUTSPOKEN.
3:06:51AM THAT WAS A CHECK THAT I FELT I COULD WRITE TO THE COMMUNITY
3:06:55AM THAT WOULDN'T BOUNCE IN THE FUTURE.
3:06:57AM WHAT I MEAN BY BOUNCE, I MEAN ACCOUNTABILITY FROM OUR
3:07:00AM JUDICIAL SYSTEM, THE COURTS, BECAUSE THIS OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T
3:07:03AM END AT CITY COUNCIL.
3:07:05AM OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT OF EMOTION HERE IN THE ROOM.
3:07:10AM WHEN YOU GET A PROJECT LIKE THIS AND ESPECIALLY IN THE CROWN
3:07:13AM JEWEL OF TAMPA, BAYSHORE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF
3:07:16AM RESISTANCE.
3:07:16AM THE RESISTANCE WAS RIGHT THE FIRST HEARING, AND IT'S
3:07:23AM JUSTIFIED, IT'S REASONABLE, I GUESS, IF YOU WILL, IT'S --
3:07:26AM WHAT IS THE WORD -- UNDERSTANDABLE IS WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
3:07:29AM THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
3:07:33AM ALL THE WAIVERS ARE GONE.
3:07:34AM WE HAVE A POSITIVE STAFF REPORT.
3:07:35AM THE MAIN ISSUE -- AND A FINDING OF CONSISTENCY.
3:07:40AM THE MAIN ISSUE FOR ME IS, IF THE DESIGN BY VIRTUE OF ITS
3:07:43AM MASSING OF THE BUILDING, IS IT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S ON
3:07:46AM BAYSHORE?
3:07:46AM WE HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION REPORT THAT SEEMS TO SAY THAT
3:07:50AM THERE IS NO REAL POINT OF DISTINCTION.
3:07:53AM THAT'S THE MAIN ISSUE FOR ME, WHICH IS IF THERE WERE GOING
3:07:56AM TO BE A DENIAL IT WOULD BE ON THAT SOLE ISSUE.
3:08:02AM THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR ON THIS.
3:08:04AM YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL IN MY REMARKS WHERE I'M LEANING ON
3:08:08AM THIS BUT I WANTED TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS AT 3:10 A.M.
3:08:11AM THANK YOU.
3:08:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:08:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
3:08:14AM I ALSO VOTED SIX MEMBERS HERE AGAINST THE PROJECT THE FIRST
3:08:21AM TIME.
3:08:21AM IT CAME BACK BEFORE THE YEAR.
3:08:27AM AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE, WHAT IS IT?
3:08:31AM IS IT GOING FROM 329 FEET TO 317 FEET?
3:08:36AM IS THAT SUBSTANTIAL?
3:08:38AM DEPENDS HOW YOU COUNT.
3:08:40AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING,
3:08:48AM 275,000.
3:08:53AM 28 THE FIRST TIME.
3:08:54AM SECOND TIME, 275,000.
3:08:58AM 28.
3:08:59AM IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?
3:09:02AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE BUILDING, BETWEEN
3:09:10AM THE FIRST AND THE SECOND SEVEN FEET IS THAT SUBSTANTIAL?
3:09:14AM BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, THERE'S OVER A HUNDRED IT MUST,
3:09:21AM INDIVIDUALS THAT TESTIFIED TODAY, AND JUST THAT ALONE TELLS
3:09:26AM YOU THAT THE PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
3:09:29AM THEY CAME OUT TODAY TO EXPRESS THEIR FEELINGS ON HOW THEY
3:09:32AM FELT ON THIS ONE PROJECT.
3:09:35AM THESE THINGS ARE DIFFICULT.
3:09:37AM THEY ARE NOT EASY FOR THE PETITIONER, NOT EASY FOR THE
3:09:41AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT EASY FOR THE ELECTED OFFICIALS BUT WE
3:09:43AM ARE THE ONES MAKING THE DECISION.
3:09:46AM AND IT IS A VERY DIFFICULT ONE.
3:09:47AM THEY ARE NOT EASY.
3:09:49AM ANY ZONING IS NOT EASY.
3:09:52AM I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WHICHEVER WAY IT GOES TODAY, 50%
3:09:56AM OF YOU BE HAPPY.
3:09:57AM THE OTHER 50% OF YOU WILL NOT BE SO HAPPY.
3:10:01AM BUT IF THE SAME HUNDRED PEOPLE COME BACK TOMORROW, THOSE ON
3:10:05AM THE HAPPY SIDE WILL MORE LIKELY LEAVE SAD.
3:10:09AM THE ONES SAD MORE THAN LIKELY LEAVE HAPPY.
3:10:12AM NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE AS ELECTED, ZONING IS SOMETHING THAT
3:10:17AM CHANGES NOT BECAUSE OF WHAT THE PEOPLE SAY, BUT WHAT'S ON
3:10:21AM PAPER AND WHAT IS REALITY.
3:10:23AM AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS
3:10:26AM ALLUDING TO.
3:10:27AM IN MY OPINION, THERE'S A MINIMUM CHANGE BETWEEN THE FIRST
3:10:35AM AND THE SECOND.
3:10:36AM NOT A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
3:10:40AM IF I DO THE NUMBERS OF WHAT IS 12 FEET MATHEMATIC BETWEEN
3:10:47AM 329 AND 317, YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED IT'S ONLY, AS YOU WELL
3:10:51AM KNOW, 3% OR SO.
3:10:53AM IS THAT SUBSTANTIAL?
3:10:56AM THE SIZE OF A BUILDING THIS HIGH IN TODAY'S STANDARDS, THE
3:11:09AM SIZE OF A FOOTBALL FIELD PLUS ANOTHER 49 FEET.
3:11:17AM THE SIZE BEFORE, THE SIZE OF A FOOTBALL FIELD PLUS 56 FEET.
3:11:25AM THE NAKED EYE CAN'T EVEN TELL THE DIFFERENCE.
3:11:28AM THE SIZE OF A FIELD, IF YOU LOOK AT A BASEBALL DIAMOND, 356
3:11:33AM AND 349 ALLEYS IN RIGHT CENTER AND LEFT CENTER, NOT DOWN --
3:11:42AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS, I SEE VERY LITTLE TO NO DIFFERENCE FOR
3:11:46AM CHANGE BECAUSE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS THE SAME.
3:11:49AM SO YOU'RE TELLING US THAT IN A FIELD OF 356 FEET, 275,028
3:12:02AM SQUARE FEET FITS INTO IT.
3:12:03AM BUT IN THE FIELD OF 349 FEET, WHICH IS SEVEN FEET SHORTER,
3:12:09AM THE SAME 275,028 FEET FIT IN IT.
3:12:16AM SO IS THERE ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE IN THAT?
3:12:19AM THAT'S WHAT TELLS ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 356 AND THE
3:12:24AM 349.
3:12:25AM IT IS THE SAME BUILDING.
3:12:27AM BASED ON SIMPLE MATH.
3:12:32AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
3:12:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
3:12:34AM YES, MA'AM.
3:12:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I FEEL WEIRD SAYING GOOD MORNING.
3:12:41AM I HAVE IN MY HEAD JUST GONE BACK AND FORTH ON BOTH SIDES OF
3:12:49AM THIS ISSUE.
3:12:50AM IT REALLY BREAKS MY HEART TO EVEN HAVE TO BE IN A POSITION
3:12:53AM TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS BECAUSE IT'S REALLY TOUGH.
3:12:56AM I SEE BOTH SIDES OF IT WHEN IT COMES TO THERE BEING SOME
3:13:01AM RELEVANCY IN THE PROJECT.
3:13:05AM YOU'VE WORKED HARD TO GET RID OF THE WAIVERS AND IT'S A
3:13:08AM BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND STRUCTURE.
3:13:10AM I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
3:13:12AM IT JUST HAPPENS TO SIT IN A SPOT ON BAYSHORE THAT HAS ALL OF
3:13:18AM THESE FOLKS IN HERE FIGHTING FOR IT NOT TO BE A PROJECT THAT
3:13:24AM WE APPROVE.
3:13:25AM BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE IS EVIDENCE ON THE SIDE WHERE IT
3:13:34AM COULD BE BUILT.
3:13:34AM AND SOUTH TAMPA JUST DOESN'T LIKE IT.
3:13:38AM EVEN IF IT WAS HALF THE SIZE I KNOW THAT YOU ALL WOULD FILL
3:13:41AM THIS ROOM.
3:13:42AM YOU WOULD.
3:13:43AM BECAUSE YOU ARE CONSISTENT THAT WAY.
3:13:47AM SINCE THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN SITTING UP HERE, YOU FIGHT TO
3:13:52AM NOT HAVE SOUTH TAMPA BE FULL.
3:13:55AM SOUTH TAMPA DOESN'T NEED ANYTHING ELSE.
3:14:00AM IT JUST IS A DIFFICULT DECISION FOR ME BECAUSE I LIKE THE
3:14:09AM PROJECT AND I WANT TO SUPPORT IT, BUT THERE'S ALSO AN ASPECT
3:14:13AM WHERE I UNDERSTAND WHY THE COMMUNITY IS FIGHTING AND IT'S
3:14:19AM THE LITTLE THINGS REGARDING THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS AND
3:14:30AM CARING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS AND THOSE KIND OF CONCERNS THAT
3:14:33AM ARE WEIGHING ON ME AS WELL.
3:14:35AM WHATEVER MY DECISION IS TODAY, I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW
3:14:39AM THAT I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES OF IT AND I WISH WE COULD DO --
3:14:46AM I WISH WE COULD MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY TONIGHT.
3:14:48AM I KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE.
3:14:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
3:14:52AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COUNCIL, AND THIS IS JUST IN GENERAL, TO
3:14:57AM BRING YOU BACK TO WHERE YOU NEED TO BE AS A BOARD, AND I SAY
3:15:01AM THIS BECAUSE IT'S 3:15 IN THE MORNING AND IT'S A VERY
3:15:05AM DIFFICULT HEARING.
3:15:06AM IN MY EXPERIENCE THIS IS PROBABLY THE LONGEST, MOST
3:15:09AM DIFFICULT HEARING THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED SINCE I'VE BEEN
3:15:12AM SITTING IN THIS SEAT.
3:15:14AM YET IT'S A VERY IMPACTFUL DECISION.
3:15:17AM I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU NEED TO TAKE A BREAK AND TAKE A
3:15:21AM DRINK -- WHAT I'M SUGGESTING TO YOU, THEN WHAT I NEED YOU TO
3:15:26AM DO IS CONCENTRATE ON YOUR TASK AT HAND.
3:15:29AM IT'S NOT A BALANCING OF ISSUES.
3:15:33AM FIRST OF ALL, IT IS NECESSARY AND YOU HEARD COUNCILMAN VIERA
3:15:37AM TALK ABOUT WHAT ARE RELEVANT ISSUES IN THIS CASE.
3:15:42AM I WOULD HARKEN YOU BACK TO WHAT HE SAID, BUT AS IMPORTANT,
3:15:47AM YOU HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY, COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IS
3:15:52AM NOT BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
3:15:55AM IT IS NOT CLEAR AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE.
3:15:59AM THE COURT HAS SAID THAT IT IS SUBSTANTIAL.
3:16:02AM YOUR DETERMINATION, OF COURSE, IT WOULD BE REVIEWED BY A
3:16:06AM COURT, BUT BASED ON EVIDENCE THAT'S BEEN DEDUCED AT A
3:16:10AM HEARING UPON WHICH YOU CAN MAKE YOUR DECISION.
3:16:12AM IT'S NOT WEIGHING THINGS.
3:16:14AM IT'S FINDING WHETHER THE CRITERIA IN THE CODE HAVE BEEN MET,
3:16:20AM AND THEN WHAT YOU DO IS YOU LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE EITHER IN
3:16:24AM SUPPORT OR IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROVISIONS OF THE CODE AND
3:16:28AM YOU COME TO A DECISION AND YOU COME TO A CONSENSUS AND YOU
3:16:32AM PUT THAT IN THE FORM OF A MOTION.
3:16:35AM THAT IS YOUR TASK AT HAND.
3:16:36AM IF YOU HAVE FINDINGS OF FACT THAT YOU WANT TO SPECIFY
3:16:39AM DRAWING UPON WHICH YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, I SUGGEST YOU PUT
3:16:41AM THAT INTO YOUR MOTION, PUT THAT INTO THE RECORD.
3:16:44AM IT'S NOT ONE PERSON'S MOTION ULTIMATELY.
3:16:46AM WHEN A MOTION IS MADE, IF COUNCIL WANTS TO ADD TO IT, ANY
3:16:49AM COUNCIL MEMBER CAN DO SO.
3:16:51AM THAT'S WHERE I ASK THAT YOU FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION.
3:16:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:16:54AM HAVING SAID THAT, BEFORE I GO TO COUNCIL MEMBERS AGAIN, I'M
3:16:57AM LOOKING AT THIS IMAGE HERE AND I SEE A SEPARATION OF THE
3:17:02AM TOWERS TO THE RIGHT HERE, SEPARATED BY A ROAD, CORRECT?
3:17:07AM I SEE ON THE LEFT SIDE WHERE THE PROPOSED TOWER IS AT IN
3:17:14AM TERMS OF MASSING AND SCALE BUT ALSO HOW THIS IS UNIQUE TO
3:17:20AM OTHER PARTS OF BAYSHORE.
3:17:22AM WHEN I SAY UNIQUE, YOU HAVE THE PARK NEXT DOOR, YOU HAVE THE
3:17:25AM GARDEN CLUB STRUCTURE.
3:17:27AM YOU HAVE LOWER-LEVEL -- THEY ARE LIMITED TO JUST A FEW
3:17:32AM STORIES.
3:17:32AM I SEE -- IT WAS MENTIONED MANY TIMES R 35 UP TO 8 STORIES
3:17:38AM MEDIUM DENSITY.
3:17:39AM THIS IS NOT MEDIUM DENSITY.
3:17:41AM I THINK, AGAIN, AS BAYSHORE HAS CHANGED, DIFFERENT PARTS OF
3:17:46AM BAYSHORE ARE DIFFERENT, MEANING YOU HAVE LIKE SOUTH OF BAY
3:17:50AM TO BAY YOU HAVE MORE OF THE DENSITY, MORE OF THE HIGH-RISES
3:17:54AM FACING BAYSHORE.
3:17:55AM ON THIS SIDE YOU HAVE WHAT'S LEFT OF THE GREENSPACE, THE
3:18:00AM PARK I MENTIONED AND WHATNOT.
3:18:02AM IN REGARDS TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, THE PARCEL IN
3:18:10AM GENERAL AND THE SIZE AND MASS OF THE STRUCTURE, I DON'T
3:18:14AM KNOW.
3:18:15AM AGAIN, THE SEPARATION FROM THE TOWERS JUST TO THE RIGHT OF
3:18:19AM THIS IMAGE.
3:18:20AM IT'S DIFFERENT.
3:18:21AM IT'S SEPARATED BY A STREET.
3:18:25AM I DON'T KNOW.
3:18:25AM WHO IS NEXT?
3:18:27AM CLENDENIN AND THEN VIERA AND THEN HURTAK.
3:18:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SINCE I'VE GONE ON COUNCIL EVERYBODY KEEPS
3:18:40AM TELLING ME EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE TYPE OF COUNCIL
3:18:45AM MEETINGS IT'S NEVER BEEN LIKE THIS BEFORE.
3:18:47AM SO OBVIOUSLY I AM THE PROBLEM.
3:18:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND THE MOTION.
3:18:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M THE PROBLEM, IT'S ME.
3:18:53AM I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH STAFF ON THE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
3:18:59AM ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK YOU MISSED COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THE
3:19:04AM FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING SHRUNK SUBSTANTIALLY.
3:19:07AM ACTUALLY WHAT WAS TOUCHING THE DIRT SHRUNK.
3:19:09AM I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DID THAT.
3:19:12AM THEY GOT ANOTHER LEVEL OF PARKING.
3:19:16AM ALSO, THE PROFILE OF THE BUILDING WAS SHIFTED DRAMATICALLY
3:19:19AM SOUTH.
3:19:20AM SO THE SPACE BETWEEN THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY AND THE TOWER, I
3:19:24AM THINK IT MORE THAN DOUBLED, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.
3:19:29AM AND THEN THE 20-FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES, I THINK
3:19:37AM HOW THEY HAVE DISPLAYED THIS AS WELL CLEARLY SHOWS THAT THIS
3:19:40AM CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IS REALLY CONTAINED TO THE UNDEVELOPED
3:19:47AM PORTION OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
3:19:52AM SO THE EXISTING TEMPLE IS STATUS QUO ON THE BAYSHORE FACING
3:19:58AM SIDES OF BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES.
3:20:01AM IT'S COMPLETE STATUS QUO.
3:20:04AM IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE -- AND WE HAD SOME TESTIMONY FROM
3:20:07AM THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE ALTURA PROPERTY.
3:20:09AM YOU LOOK AT THE LACK OF STEP-DOWN IT REALLY GOES VERTICAL
3:20:15AM RIGHT OFF THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THERE'S NO BUFFER AT ALL.
3:20:18AM I MEAN, IT'S VERY DRAMATIC WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ALTURA
3:20:22AM PROPERTY.
3:20:24AM I DIDN'T APPROVE IT.
3:20:25AM YOU ALL DID.
3:20:27AM THAT'S REALLY KIND OF DRAMATIC.
3:20:28AM I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THE OTHER
3:20:32AM DAY -- YOU ALL KNOW I LIVE HERE.
3:20:34AM I WAS DRIVING DOWN SOUTH ON BAYSHORE AND I WAS LOOKING AT
3:20:38AM THESE PROPERTIES AND I WAS TRYING TO KIND OF SEE WHAT THEY
3:20:41AM DID.
3:20:42AM I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH A FEW OF THEM.
3:20:45AM HOW THEY HAD MAYBE CASITAS AT THE BOTTOM TO STEP DOWN OR
3:20:49AM USED ARCHITECTURAL DETAIL TO BUFFER OR LIKE SOME OF THEM DID
3:20:54AM THE WEDDING CAKE SO IT KIND OF GAVE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT
3:20:58AM DISNEY EFFECT WHERE YOU HAD OPTICAL ILLUSION, THE BUILDING
3:21:02AM DISAPPEARED.
3:21:03AM ONLY ONE WHICH I THINK WE HAD SOMEBODY FROM THAT BUILDING
3:21:07AM HERE WENT ALMOST STRAIGHT VERTICAL AND ONE OF THE NEWER
3:21:10AM BUILDINGS.
3:21:10AM ONLY ONE I SAW.
3:21:12AM MAY HAVE BEEN OTHERS, BUT ONE AND OBVIOUSLY ALTURA.
3:21:15AM THAT BEING SAID, SOMETHING THAT MY FELLOW COUNCIL PERSON
3:21:23AM SAID EARLIER AND WHEN THEY FIRST SPOKE -- AND I'VE SAID THIS
3:21:29AM MANY TIMES, WHEN YOU BUY IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU BUY
3:21:33AM BASED ON SOME SEMBLANCE OF PREDICTABILITY ON ZONING AND USE.
3:21:39AM AND THAT WEIGHS HEAVY ON MY SOUL BECAUSE IF I WAS LIVING ON
3:21:44AM BARCELONA OR LIVING ON YSABELLA AND I KNEW THAT THE PROPERTY
3:21:50AM ACROSS FROM ME WAS ZONED A SPECIFIC ZONING, THAT THAT'S MY
3:21:56AM PREDICTABILITY.
3:21:58AM I BOUGHT THERE KNOWING THE PROPERTY WOULD BE DEVELOPED AT
3:22:01AM THIS DENSITY.
3:22:02AM AND THAT'S A TOUGH HURDLE FOR ME TO OVERCOME.
3:22:09AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T TAKE THIS AND I'LL BE HONEST
3:22:13AM WITH YOU, OTHER THAN THAT, I DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF COMPETENT
3:22:18AM AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
3:22:20AM I HEARD A LOT OF WISHES AND DESIRES AND I UNDERSTAND THE
3:22:26AM ANGST AND THE ANGER OR THE FRUSTRATION FROM A LOT OF THE
3:22:30AM FOLKS THAT TALKED TONIGHT BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY RISE TO THE
3:22:33AM LEVEL OF COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT I THINK WE
3:22:35AM NEED FOR THIS TO BE UPHELD.
3:22:37AM BUT THIS PARTICULAR ELEMENT IT POSSIBLY DOES.
3:22:41AM I WILL SAY, THOUGH, AND THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I'M
3:22:46AM CONSIDERING IN MY THING, BUT SOMEHOW I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL
3:22:49AM BALL.
3:22:49AM I SUSPECT THE FOLKS, ESPECIALLY LIKE THE GARDEN CLUB AND
3:22:55AM OTHER FOLKS, SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE YOU ALL ARE GOING TO
3:22:57AM LOOK BACK AND SAY, DANG, I WISH WE BOUGHT OFF ON THIS DEAL
3:23:01AM BECAUSE I'M SO FEARFUL WHAT'S GOING TO END UP HAPPENING AND
3:23:05AM THIS IS A BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY, IF YOU TAKE THE ENTIRE LOW
3:23:09AM PROFILE BUILDING OF THE SYNAGOGUE AND YOU DEVELOP THAT, I
3:23:13AM JUST DON'T SEE IT RETAINING ITS EXISTING USE IF THE FULL
3:23:19AM PIECE OF PROPERTY WAS AVAILABLE.
3:23:20AM I'M AFRAID IT'S GOING TO GO VERTICAL A LOT CLOSER TO
3:23:24AM BAYSHORE THAN WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW AND THE IMPACT WILL BE
3:23:27AM MUCH MORE DRAMATIC.
3:23:28AM IN THE ESSENCE OF BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR, YOU MIGHT GET
3:23:34AM IT.
3:23:34AM BUT I AM EMPATHETIC WITH THE FOLKS.
3:23:37AM ONE LAST POINT TO MAKE, THE HEIGHT, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY
3:23:42AM THAT CAN SIT ON YSABELLA OR BARCELONA AND DETERMINE HOW HIGH
3:23:47AM SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE.
3:23:50AM I CAN'T AND I LIVE IN THE PROXIMITY OF THIS AS WELL.
3:23:53AM HEIGHT DOESN'T BOTHER ME.
3:23:55AM I DON'T THINK THE HEIGHT HAS AN IMPACT ON ANYBODY.
3:23:58AM ONCE YOU GET TO A CERTAIN HEIGHT, IT'S JUST HIGH.
3:24:03AM YOU DON'T NOTICE THE HEIGHT.
3:24:05AM IT'S JUST HIGH.
3:24:07AM BUT I DO THINK THE PREDICTABILITY OF THE ZONING IS SOMETHING
3:24:13AM WEIGHING HEAVY ON ME.
3:24:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILWOMAN
3:24:15AM HURTAK.
3:24:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:24:17AM I WANTED TO BUILD ON, I WAS GOING TO MENTION THIS AS WELL,
3:24:20AM SOMETHING COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN SAID, ABOUT THE CHANGE, THERE
3:24:24AM WERE VERY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES BETWEEN WHAT I VOTED AGAINST
3:24:28AM AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW.
3:24:30AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE, AGAIN, HOW SHALL I SAY
3:24:34AM THIS?
3:24:34AM I HAVE NO PRECONCEIVED DOG IN THIS FIGHT, SO TO SPEAK,
3:24:39AM RIGHT?
3:24:39AM I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
3:24:41AM I THINK ORIGINALLY THERE WERE 57 UNITS BEFORE IT WAS HEARD
3:24:45AM BEFORE COUNCIL, WENT TO 50.
3:24:46AM NOW WE'RE AT 42.
3:24:49AM REMOVE SEVERAL FLOORS.
3:24:50AM THINGS I WROTE DOWN.
3:24:51AM NUMBER OF WAIVERS, TREES, LANDSCAPE BUFFER, FENCE,
3:24:54AM ET CETERA.
3:24:55AM REAL, REAL, REAL SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE BETWEEN WHAT I VOTED
3:24:59AM AGAINST AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW.
3:25:02AM AGAIN, MY BIG ISSUE THAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE IS THAT MASSING
3:25:10AM OF THE BUILDING AND ANY COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE
3:25:13AM THAT'S BEEN PRODUCED THAT SHOWS THAT THERE IS A REAL
3:25:16AM DISTINCTION ON WHAT IS THERE.
3:25:17AM IT'S OBVIOUSLY A TOUGH VOTE ON THESE TYPE OF THINGS.
3:25:22AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I ALWAYS LOOK AT IS AGAIN THAT
3:25:24AM JUDICIAL ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE IF WE SAY NO TO THIS, AGAIN,
3:25:28AM I FEEL LIKE IN THE FIRST ROUND WE WROTE A CHECK THAT WOULD
3:25:34AM HAVE BOUNCED.
3:25:36AM THERE ALWAYS IS JUDICIAL ACCOUNTABILITY IN THESE TYPE OF
3:25:39AM THINGS AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL
3:25:41AM EVIDENCE, THAT LEG ON THE STOOL, THAT IS A BIG ISSUE FOR ME
3:25:46AM ON A CASE LIKE THIS.
3:25:48AM JUST TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS.
3:25:49AM AGAIN, THANK YOU.
3:25:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
3:25:51AM WAIT, MIRANDA, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK TOO?
3:25:55AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THERE'S NO MOTION ON THE FLOOR, CORRECT.
3:25:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO MAKE ONE.
3:26:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GO ON THEN.
3:26:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
3:26:03AM I'M GOING TO MOVE TO DENY REZ 24-06 FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
3:26:16AM AT 2713 BAYSHORE BOULEVARD DUE TO THE FAILURE OF THE
3:26:22AM APPLICANT TO MEET ITS BURDEN OF PROOF TO PROVIDE COMPETENT
3:26:25AM AND SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AS CONDITIONED
3:26:27AM AND SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE
3:26:29AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND CITY CODE.
3:26:32AM I'M GOING TO FOCUS FIRST ON THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT CRITERIA,
3:26:37AM SECTION 27-136 AND SUBSECTION NUMBER 1.
3:26:42AM I FIND THAT DOES NOT PROMOTE THE EFFICIENT AND SUSTAINABLE
3:26:46AM USE OF LAND AND INFRASTRUCTURE WITH CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF
3:26:49AM POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS TO ON-SITE NATURAL ELEMENTS
3:26:54AM SURROUNDING IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOOD AND CULTURAL RESOURCES.
3:26:56AM AND THIS TO ME IS THE BIG ONE.
3:26:59AM CULTURAL RESOURCES ON THIS BLOCK, ON THIS AREA THAT'S FUTURE
3:27:03AM LAND USE OF R 35 CLEARLY SHOWS THIS IS A CULTURAL RESOURCE
3:27:09AM AREA OF BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
3:27:11AM SUBSECTION NUMBER 5, I FIND IT WILL NOT MAXIMIZE THE
3:27:16AM PRESERVATION OF NATURAL RESOURCES.
3:27:18AM SUBSECTION NUMBER 6, IT DOES NOT PROMOTE AND ENCOURAGE
3:27:21AM DEVELOPMENT WHERE APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION, CHARACTER, AND
3:27:25AM COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SURROUNDING IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOODS,
3:27:29AM BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND EXISTING GEOGRAPHY.
3:27:32AM PLEASE STOP TALKING!
3:27:34AM THANK YOU.
3:27:34AM ALSO IT DOES NOT, LU POLICY 1.2.6, IT DOES NOT ENCOURAGE
3:27:43AM SMALL -- LU POLICY 1.2.6 ENCOURAGES SMALL AND MEDIUM SCALE
3:27:49AM DEVELOPMENT PARTICULARLY OF UNIQUE DESIGN TO ENHANCE TAMPA'S
3:27:53AM URBAN CHARACTER.
3:27:55AM THIS IS A UNIQUE PART OF BAYSHORE.
3:27:58AM LU POLICY 1.2.20, DESIGN NEW STRUCTURES TO CREATE
3:28:03AM TRANSITIONS IN FORM BETWEEN ADJACENT OR NEARBY BUILDINGS OR
3:28:08AM OPEN SPACE, AND THIS IS NOT A TRANSITION.
3:28:10AM IT IS PLOPPING DOWN -- IT'S NOT A GENTLE TRANSITION.
3:28:18AM LU POLICY 8.14.1 DEVELOPMENT SHALL NOT EXCEED THE DENSITIES
3:28:23AM AND INTENSITIES AS DEFINED BY THE LAND USE PLAN CATEGORIES,
3:28:28AM AND THAT'S THE BIG ONE FOR ME.
3:28:30AM THIS IS A FUTURE LAND USE OF R 35.
3:28:38AM YOU'RE WELCOME TO BUILD EIGHT STORY STRUCTURE WITH AS MUCH
3:28:42AM AS YOU CAN FIT IN IT.
3:28:45AM YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT.
3:28:46AM BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO A PD.
3:28:50AM AND THIS COUNCIL OR AT LEAST MY MOTION IS THAT IT IS NOT --
3:28:56AM IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR CULTURAL AREA OF
3:29:00AM BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
3:29:03AM >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL SECOND AND ADD, MR. CHAIR, IN THE
3:29:08AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE VISION MAP INDICATES WHERE CITIZENS
3:29:12AM AND PLANNERS BELIEVE ADDITIONAL GROWTH AND HIGHER DENSITY
3:29:16AM SHOULD OCCUR AND WHERE NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD REMAIN UNCHANGED
3:29:19AM AND STABLE.
3:29:20AM THERE ARE SIX LEVELS OF INTENSITY TO INDICATE WHERE
3:29:23AM DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE FOCUSED.
3:29:25AM SOUTH TAMPA AND NEW TAMPA ARE LEVEL ONE, MEANING NO
3:29:28AM SIGNIFICANT CHANGE ESTABLISHED AREA.
3:29:30AM SOME OF THE TESTIMONY THAT WAS PRESENTED WAS THAT WE NEED
3:29:32AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE NEED MORE HOUSING, BUT THIS IS
3:29:36AM VERY EXPENSIVE HOUSING AND IT'S NOT IN THE AREA WHERE THE
3:29:42AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WANTS US TO GROW.
3:29:44AM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WANTS US TO GROW IN THE USF AREA.
3:29:47AM IF THIS WAS PRESENTED IN THE USF AREA, THERE PROBABLY --
3:29:51AM THERE WOULDN'T BE THIS KIND OF OBJECTION, AT LEAST IN THE
3:29:54AM LAND USE PLAN.
3:29:55AM AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TALKS ABOUT SOUTH TAMPA
3:30:00AM CHARACTERISTICS LIKE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITIES THAT WOULD BE
3:30:03AM COMPROMISED BY INCREASED URBANIZATION SO THAT SPECIFICALLY
3:30:07AM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TALKS ABOUT THE DOWN SIDE OF
3:30:10AM URBANIZATION BECAUSE OF THE SENSITIVE ECONOMIC -- SORRY,
3:30:14AM ENVIRONMENTAL NATURE OF SOUTH TAMPA, LIMITED ACCESS TO
3:30:19AM TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
3:30:21AM LIMITED OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE MORE COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
3:30:26AM AND THEN POLICY 1.1.8 TALKS ABOUT DIVERSE HOUSING.
3:30:32AM AGAIN, THIS IS HIGH END HOUSING WHICH THERE IS A LOT OF IN
3:30:35AM THE AREA ALREADY, SO IT'S NOT CREATING ANY MORE DIVERSITY.
3:30:38AM IT SAYS SOUTH TAMPA DISTRICTS WHILE IT SHOULD MAINTAIN THE
3:30:42AM CHARACTER OF ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, WE SEE
3:30:45AM THAT IN THE IMMEDIATE DISTRICT ONE OF THE FOLKS TALKED ABOUT
3:30:52AM ADJACENT NEARBY USES.
3:30:54AM IF YOU LOOK AT A BROAD CONTEXT, YES, THERE'S HIGHER DENSITY
3:30:59AM ALL THE WAY TO DOWNTOWN, BUT IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, CULTURAL
3:31:04AM AREA, ENVIRONMENTAL AREA, AN AREA WITH LOWER DENSITY AND THE
3:31:08AM NET OF IT IS A LOT SMALLER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS,
3:31:12AM PLUS THERE'S SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT
3:31:15AM TO IT.
3:31:16AM LAND USE POLICY 1.2.28 SAYS LIMIT THE USE OF PLANNED
3:31:21AM DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZONING PETITIONS TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT
3:31:24AM CONSISTENT WITH FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION, BUT OTHERWISE
3:31:28AM NOT PERMITTED IN CURRENT, LAND USE OBJECTIVE 2.1, REGULATE
3:31:33AM THE LEVELS OF BUILDING INTENSITY.
3:31:36AM THIS IS PROVIDING MASSIVE INTENSITY, AND I THINK IF THIS
3:31:42AM COMES BACK AS AN EIGHT STORY BUILDING OR SMALLER ONE THAT
3:31:47AM FITS THE CURRENT MEDIUM DENSITY OR R 35, IT WOULD BE
3:31:52AM PROBABLY NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TURN IT DOWN.
3:31:54AM BUT AGAIN, IN TERMS OF PREDICTABILITY OF ZONING AND
3:31:58AM PREDICTABILITY OF LAND USE, THIS IS CHANGING THE RULES WHERE
3:32:02AM PEOPLE WHO INVESTED IN PROPERTY, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL
3:32:06AM AROUND IT HAD AN EXPECTATION THAT IT WOULD NOT BE LIKE THIS.
3:32:09AM LAND USE POLICY 2.1.1 TALKED ABOUT COMPATIBLE, NEEDS TO BE
3:32:14AM COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING CHARACTER, WHICH IT IS NOT.
3:32:18AM LAND USE POLICY 9.2.2, THE IMPACTS OF DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS
3:32:23AM ON THE EXISTING PHYSICAL AND SOCIAL FRAMEWORK AND CHARACTER
3:32:26AM OF THE AFFECTED AREA SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED.
3:32:28AM WE JUST TALKED ABOUT HOW THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF BAYSHORE IS
3:32:32AM REALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF BAYSHORE LAND USE.
3:32:35AM OBJECTIVE 9.3 TALKS ABOUT HOW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE
3:32:40AM COMPATIBLE.
3:32:40AM LAND USE POLICY 9.3.8 TALKS ABOUT HOW NEW RESIDENTIAL
3:32:45AM DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS SHALL BE MINIMALLY DISRUPTIVE TO
3:32:48AM ADJACENT AREAS.
3:32:50AM WE HEARD LOTS OF TESTIMONY ABOUT HOW THIS WOULD BE
3:32:55AM DISRUPTIVE AND SOME OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WERE APPROVED
3:32:58AM BEFORE MY TIME HAVE BEEN DISRUPTED.
3:33:04AM THEN THE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD LAND USE OBJECTIVE 20.4 THAT
3:33:08AM SAYS CONTINUE TO RECOGNIZE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD AS REGIONAL
3:33:12AM ATTRACTOR, MAJOR COMMUNITY ASSET, CONTINUE TO PRESERVE AND
3:33:16AM ENHANCE THE BALANCE OF THE NATURAL AND PHYSICAL ENVIRONMENTS
3:33:18AM ALONG BAYSHORE BOULEVARD IN A MANNER WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO
3:33:21AM PROVIDE THE CITY'S RESIDENTS, REGIONAL NEIGHBORS AND
3:33:25AM NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL VISITORS WITH A UNIQUE AND
3:33:27AM ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERIENCE IN THE CORE OF THE URBAN AREA.
3:33:31AM A LOT OF THE TESTIMONY SHOWED THIS WOULD DO THE OPPOSITE.
3:33:34AM WE -- TESTIMONY TALKED ABOUT THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA
3:33:44AM AND THE CM OBJECTIVE 1.1 SAYS DIRECT FUTURE POPULATION
3:33:48AM CONCENTRATIONS AWAY FROM THE COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
3:33:52AM PRETTY MUCH ALL THE PENINSULA OF SOUTH TAMPA IS IN THE
3:33:55AM COASTAL HIGH HAZARD AREA.
3:33:57AM THE IMPACT OF THAT IS THAT PEOPLE CANNOT EASILY GET OUT OF
3:34:01AM THERE DURING HURRICANES AND OTHER KINDS OF STORMS.
3:34:06AM SO THIS OBJECTIVE 1.1 SAYS NO NET INCREASE IN OVERALL
3:34:12AM RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WITHIN THE CHHA.
3:34:15AM CM OBJECTIVE 1.7 TALKS ABOUT LACK OF TRANSPORTATION AND
3:34:20AM EVACUATION PLANNING.
3:34:22AM CM POLICY 1.7.2 SAYS THAT WE NEED TO ENSURE PRIORITY IS
3:34:27AM PLACED ON MAINTAINING THE CAPACITY OF HIGHWAYS THAT ARE
3:34:30AM DESIGNATED AS REGIONAL EVACUATION ROUTES.
3:34:33AM THESE ROUTES ARE OVER CAPACITY AND WE WOULD HEREBY BE ADDING
3:34:38AM A LOT MORE DENSITY.
3:34:40AM THERE WAS A LOT MORE THAT WAS PRESENTED ON THE RECORD, THAT
3:34:45AM JUST ADDS MORE TO THE MOTION.
3:34:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ACCEPT YOUR AMENDMENT.
3:34:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
3:34:51AM [ LAUGHTER ]
3:34:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU RESTATE IT?
3:34:54AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
3:34:56AM WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WITH THE
3:35:01AM ACCEPTED AMENDMENTS BY THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
3:35:04AM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
3:35:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
3:35:10AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
3:35:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
3:35:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
3:35:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
3:35:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
3:35:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
3:35:26AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION TO DENY CARRIED WITH HENDERSON,
3:35:30AM VIERA VOTING NO.
3:35:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:35:33AM MR. SHELBY, THERE WAS AN ITEM NUMBER 9.
3:35:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THERE WAS AN ITEM NUMBER 9.
3:35:44AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
3:35:45AM WE'RE NOT DONE.
3:35:52AM >> REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
3:35:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
3:35:57AM YES, MA'AM.
3:35:57AM >> REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
3:35:59AM ITEM NUMBER 9 CAN BE WITHDRAWN BECAUSE IT CAN'T BE HEARD
3:36:03AM BECAUSE THE REZONING WAS DENIED.
3:36:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM 9.
3:36:07AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:36:08AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
3:36:09AM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:36:10AM AYE.
3:36:12AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A CAUTION TO CITY
3:36:15AM COUNCIL THAT THERE IS A 30-DAY APPEAL PERIOD AND TO REMAIN
3:36:20AM MINDFUL OF NOT BEING ABLE TO DISCUSS THIS IN THE PRESS AND
3:36:25AM WITH THE PUBLIC DURING THAT PERIOD AND SOMETIME THEREAFTER
3:36:30AM UNTIL WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS CASE IS HEADED.
3:36:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHELBY.
3:36:36AM WE'LL GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
3:36:37AM I HAVE A FEW ITEMS.
3:36:40AM I'LL HAND THE GAVEL.
3:36:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AS YOU EXIT THE ROOM, PLEASE BE QUIET.
3:36:47AM WE ARE STILL CONDUCTING BUSINESS.
3:36:49AM WHEN YOU GET OUTSIDE, BE QUIET UNTIL YOU GET DOWN TO THE
3:36:53AM NEXT FLOOR, PLEASE.
3:36:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MY FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR NEW
3:36:57AM BUSINESS --
3:36:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WAIT.
3:36:58AM YOU HAVE NOT BEEN RECOGNIZED.
3:37:01AM I RECOGNIZE CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
3:37:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
3:37:03AM I BROUGHT THIS UP THE OTHER DAY REGARDING A COMMENDATION
3:37:08AM THAT WAS TOP SECRET BECAUSE IT WAS A SURPRISE FOR A COUPLE.
3:37:11AM THE MOTION IS TO GIVE A COMMENDATION RETROACTIVELY TO FRANK
3:37:15AM AND CAROL MORSANI.
3:37:17AM IT WAS GIVEN TO THEM FEBRUARY 5th AT AN EVENT.
3:37:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
3:37:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THAT IT?
3:37:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE TO TAKE A VOTE.
3:37:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S 3:37 IN THE MORNING.
3:37:32AM WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
3:37:36AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:37:37AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
3:37:39AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
3:37:42AM AYE.
3:37:42AM OPPOSED, AYES HAVE IT.
3:37:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND AND LAST ITEM IS A MOTION FOR A
3:37:47AM COMMENDATION TO TAMPA PRIDE TO BE GIVEN AT A FUTURE DATE.
3:37:52AM I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE YET.
3:37:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
3:37:56AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
3:37:57AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
3:37:59AM OPPOSED?
3:37:59AM AYES HAVE IT.
3:38:01AM YOU MAY NOW HAVE YOUR GAVEL BACK.
3:38:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
3:38:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, SIR, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION
3:38:08AM TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION TO RICHARD FORMICA, JUNIOR.
3:38:12AM HE RECENTLY RETIRED FROM THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER INTERLOCAL
3:38:16AM PLANNING BOARD AS A CITIZEN REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CITY OF
3:38:16AM TAMPA.
3:38:17AM HIS MANY YEARS OF SERVICE REFLECT HIS DEDICATION TO THE
3:38:21AM PROTECTION OF THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AND THE CITIZENS IT
3:38:24AM SERVES.
3:38:24AM I WILL SPEAK TO MR. FORMICA AND WILL REPORT BACK TO THE DATE
3:38:29AM THAT IT WILL BE PRESENTED.
3:38:31AM I APPRECIATE MS. HURTAK'S HELP ON THIS.
3:38:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:38:34AM MIRANDA.
3:38:35AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
3:38:36AM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:38:37AM AYE.
3:38:37AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SHOUT-OUT TO THE PASSING OF A GOOD
3:38:41AM FRIEND, FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER AND COUNTY COMMISSIONER AND
3:38:44AM THE GODFATHER OF THE TREE ORDINANCE WHO WORKED ON IT VERY
3:38:48AM DILIGENTLY BACK IN THE '70s.
3:38:50AM IT'S SOMETHING THAT OVER 50 YEARS OLD AND STILL STANDING
3:38:53AM STRONG.
3:38:54AM I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT JOE CHILLURA HAD DONE FOR THE
3:38:57AM GOVERNMENT AND FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY AND HILLSBOROUGH
3:38:59AM COUNTY.
3:38:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABSOLUTELY.
3:39:01AM BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMAN VIERA, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE LISA
3:39:05AM EDWARDS FOR ALL HER HARD WORK.
3:39:09AM [ APPLAUSE ]
3:39:09AM YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB, SO THANK YOU AS ALWAYS.
3:39:19AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND OUR CLERKS AS WELL.
3:39:21AM [ APPLAUSE ]
3:39:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HOW ABOUT ME FOR NOT FALLING ASLEEP?
3:39:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND BOB WHITMORE FOR ALWAYS BEING A
3:39:38AM GREAT SPEAKER.
3:39:38AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
3:39:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
3:39:40AM I HAD A COUPLE.
3:39:41AM I'LL DO TWO QUICK ONES THAT ARE TIME LIMITED.
3:39:44AM FIREFIGHTER OF THE QUARTER COMMENDATION.
3:39:46AM I WANT TO PUT THAT IF I MAY ON MARCH 7 CALENDAR.
3:39:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA, SECOND BY
3:39:51AM MIRANDA.
3:39:52AM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:39:53AM AYE.
3:39:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: CHERYL SCHROEDER WITH WEST CENTRAL LABOR, WE
3:39:57AM WERE GOING TO HAVE HER BEING HONORED ON MARCH 28.
3:40:01AM I MAY HAVE A CONFLICT THAT DAY THAT'S GOING TO TAKE UP A
3:40:05AM LITTLE BIT POTENTIALLY.
3:40:06AM SO I WANTED TO MOVE THAT AND WE SCHEDULED THIS WITH SHERYL
3:40:10AM ON APRIL 18.
3:40:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM -- APRIL 18.
3:40:14AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
3:40:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
3:40:18AM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:40:18AM AYE.
3:40:19AM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
3:40:20AM YES, MA'AM.
3:40:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOTHING.
3:40:22AM ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
3:40:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
3:40:24AM YES, SIR.
3:40:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE THREE.
3:40:26AM FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
3:40:28AM MOTION ONE, A REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, SETTING A
3:40:32AM TRANSMITTAL HEARING FOR TA/CPA 23-18 ON MAY 23rd, 2024 AT
3:40:38AM 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE
3:40:41AM CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF NOTICE FOR ADVERTISING THE
3:40:44AM PUBLIC HEARING.
3:40:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:40:47AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:40:49AM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:40:49AM AYE.
3:40:50AM ANY OPPOSED?
3:40:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION SETTING
3:40:53AM ADOPTION HEARINGS FOR TA/CPA 24-01, TA/CPA 24-02 AND TA/CPA
3:40:59AM 24-03 ON MAY 23rd, 2024 AT 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL
3:41:05AM DEPARTMENT TO PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF NOTICE
3:41:08AM FOR ADVERTISING THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
3:41:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
3:41:12AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:41:13AM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:41:14AM AYE.
3:41:15AM ANY OPPOSED?
3:41:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LAST, A REQUEST BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION
3:41:18AM SETTING AN ADOPTION HEARING FOR TA/CPA 23-18 ON AUGUST 29,
3:41:23AM 2024, AT 5:01 P.M. AND DIRECT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO
3:41:26AM PROVIDE THE CITY CLERK WITH THE FORM OF NOTICE FOR
3:41:29AM ADVERTISING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
3:41:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:41:32AM CLENDENIN.
3:41:32AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:41:34AM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:41:35AM AYE.
3:41:36AM ANY OPPOSED?
3:41:36AM ANYTHING ELSE?
3:41:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S IT.
3:41:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
3:41:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
3:41:40AM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE -- OH.
3:41:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CARLSON HAS A LOT.
3:41:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST HAVE ONE.
3:41:48AM THIS IS A MORE SERIOUS ONE, BUT THE CHARTER TALKS ABOUT --
3:41:54AM SORRY.
3:41:55AM THE CHARTER TALKS ABOUT RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT FOR CERTAIN
3:41:59AM LEVELS OF ADMINISTRATION.
3:42:01AM AND THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSION IN THE PUBLIC.
3:42:04AM FRANKLY, I HAVE SOME CONFUSION EVEN THOUGH I WAS ON THE
3:42:06AM CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION ABOUT HOW IT'S TRANSLATED.
3:42:09AM WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE CHARTER, IT'S TRANSLATED TO
3:42:12AM EITHER EXECUTIVE ORDER OR ORDINANCES.
3:42:14AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL
3:42:16AM ATTORNEY TO DO RESEARCH ON THE ORDINANCES, ORDERS, AND RULES
3:42:20AM THAT CODIFY THE ADMINISTRATOR RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT IN THE
3:42:25AM CHARTER AND TO REPORT TO COUNCIL ON MARCH 28 AND LEAD A
3:42:29AM DISCUSSION ABOUT MAKING MODIFICATIONS, IF NEEDED.
3:42:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
3:42:34AM CARLSON.
3:42:34AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
3:42:36AM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:42:37AM AYE.
3:42:37AM ANY OPPOSED?
3:42:38AM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
3:42:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT'S IT.
3:42:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
3:42:45AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
3:42:46AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
3:42:48AM ALL IN FAVOR?
3:42:48AM AYE.
3:42:49AM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
3:42:50AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
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