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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 2024, 9:00 A.M.

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9:02:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:02:17AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
9:02:19AM ORDER.
9:02:19AM AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON FOR THE
9:02:22AM INVOCATION.
9:02:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
9:02:25AM I HAVE BILL MITCHELL SENIOR HERE.
9:02:30AM HE'LL STAND UP HERE IN A SECOND.
9:02:31AM BILL PRACTICES IN THE FIRST PARTY PROPERTY DIVISION OF THE
9:02:34AM TAMPA OFFICE OF CONROY SIMBERG PA PRACTICING PRIMARILY IN
9:02:38AM THE AREAS OF FIRST AND THIRD PARTY PROPERTY LOSS DISPUTES
9:02:42AM AND PROPERTY COVERAGE MATTERS.
9:02:43AM BILL IS ALSO A MEMBER OF CONROY SIMBERG'S DIVERSITY AND
9:02:47AM INCLUSION COMMITTEE.
9:02:48AM PRIOR TO JOINING CONROY SIMBERG, MR. MITCHELL WORKED FOR THE
9:02:52AM STATEWIDE DEFENSE FIRM GROELLE & SALMON.
9:02:57AM ALSO, HE PREVIOUSLY SPENT 15 YEARS WORKING FOR THE UNITED
9:03:00AM STATES AIR FORCE -- THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE -- IN

9:03:03AM AEROSPACE MAINTENANCE.
9:03:04AM DURING THIS TIME, HE DEPLOYED OVER 700 DAYS IN SUPPORT OF
9:03:06AM THE ONGOING GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM.
9:03:09AM SINCE MOVING TO TAMPA IN 2007, MR. MITCHELL HAS BECOME AN
9:03:12AM ENGAGED COMMUNITY LEADER AND ADVOCATE FOR A NUMBER OF
9:03:15AM CAUSES, INCLUDING CANCER RESEARCH AND TREATMENT, MILITARY
9:03:17AM VETERANS AND MEMBERS OF THE RESERVE COMPONENT OF THE ARMED
9:03:19AM FORCES.
9:03:20AM IF EVERYONE WILL STAND, WE'LL DO THE INVOCATION AND THE
9:03:24AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:03:24AM THANK YOU.
9:03:28AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CARLSON.
9:03:30AM IF YOU WILL ALL JOIN ME IN A WORD OF PRAYER TO START US OFF.
9:03:34AM LORD GOD, WE HUMBLY COME TO ASK FOR YOUR BLESSINGS ON THE
9:03:39AM CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
9:03:40AM FIRST, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US
9:03:43AM AND FOR YOUR ABUNDANT BLESSINGS THAT WE ARE SURROUNDED BY
9:03:46AM EVERY SINGLE DAY.
9:03:47AM THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME PART OF YOUR BEAUTIFUL WORLD THAT WE
9:03:51AM CALL TAMPA.
9:03:51AM THANK YOU FOR OUR COMMUNITY LEADERS.
9:03:53AM THANK YOU FOR OUR FELLOW CITIZENS, OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, OUR
9:03:57AM CITY EMPLOYEES AND THOSE WHO PLAY A PART IN APPROVING THIS
9:04:02AM AMAZING -- IMPROVING THIS AMAZING PART OF THE WORLD THAT WE
9:04:04AM ARE SO HAPPY TO CALL HOME.

9:04:06AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES AND FOR FREEDOMS.
9:04:09AM THANK YOU FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
9:04:13AM BRAVERY CONTINUES TO INSPIRE US.
9:04:14AM THANK YOU FOR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE OUR VOICE IN OUR
9:04:17AM GOVERNMENT.
9:04:18AM THANK YOU FOR THE NATURAL BEAUTY THAT WE ENJOY EVERY DAY.
9:04:22AM LORD, THERE IS SO MUCH SUFFERING IN THIS WORLD AND WE OFTEN
9:04:25AM STRUGGLE TO UNDERSTAND IT.
9:04:28AM PLEASE HELP US AND TRUST -- HELP US TO TRUST YOU AND HELP US
9:04:34AM TO LESSEN SOME PART OF THAT SUFFERING TO THOSE AROUND US OR
9:04:38AM IN OUR WORLD TODAY.
9:04:40AM HELP US TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF THOSE AROUND US AND TO BE
9:04:44AM EXAMPLES OF YOUR ABUNDANT AND AMAZING LOVE.
9:04:47AM YOU ARE THE BEST FRIEND THAT WE COULD EVER ASK FOR, THAT WE
9:04:50AM COULD EVER HAVE.
9:04:52AM HELP US TO BE GOOD FRIENDS TO THOSE AROUND US.
9:04:54AM NOW, LORD, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BLESS THIS MEETING AND THE
9:04:57AM WORK OF THIS CITY COUNCIL.
9:04:59AM GUIDE THE THOUGHTS, WORDS, AND ACTIONS OF THOSE PRESENT
9:05:03AM HERE.
9:05:05AM HELP THIS MEETING TO BE EFFECTIVE, PRODUCTIVE, HELPFUL AND
9:05:09AM POSSIBLY ON AGENDA.
9:05:11AM WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN YOUR HOLY NAME.
9:05:14AM THANK YOU AND AMEN.
9:05:15AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]

9:05:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:05:37AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:05:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:05:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:05:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:05:43AM >> VIERA?
9:05:43AM MIRANDA?
9:05:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:05:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:05:46AM >>THE CLERK: YOU HAVE A QUORUM.
9:05:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:05:48AM BEFORE WE GO INTO -- I'M SORRY.
9:05:51AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY
9:05:53AM 1st, 2024 AND FEBRUARY 8, 2024?
9:05:56AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:05:58AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:06:00AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:06:00AM AYE.
9:06:01AM BEFORE WE GO INTO HOUSEKEEPING, I'D LIKE TO WISH MAJOR ERIC
9:06:04AM DiFELICE WITH DISTRICT 3 A VERY, VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
9:06:08AM HE'S NOT HERE, BUT IF HE IS WATCHING, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE
9:06:11AM GENTLEMAN.
9:06:20AM I HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS TO GO OVER.
9:06:21AM MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN THAT HE WILL
9:06:24AM NEED TO LEAVE AT NOON FOR AN EVENT.

9:06:27AM MORE THAN LIKELY I WILL BE BREAKING FOR LUNCH AT OR AROUND
9:06:30AM 12:00.
9:06:31AM MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA THAT HE WILL BE
9:06:33AM LATE, ABOUT 45 MINUTES OR SO DUE TO A FUNERAL THIS MORNING
9:06:36AM THAT HE IS ATTENDING.
9:06:38AM I HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
9:06:41AM REQUESTING THAT ITEM NUMBER 1 BE CONTINUED TO MAY 2.
9:06:44AM IS THAT CORRECT, SIR?
9:06:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
9:06:47AM SO MOVED.
9:06:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
9:06:50AM WE'VE CONTINUED IT SEVERAL TIMES.
9:06:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:06:55AM CARLSON, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:06:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ARE THEY HERE?
9:06:58AM CAN THEY TALK ABOUT IT?
9:07:00AM IT'S JUST CEREMONIAL.
9:07:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN BETWEEN THE CRA AND
9:07:05AM THE CITY COUNCIL, BACK IN SEPTEMBER, WE ASKED THEM TO
9:07:10AM PRESENT IN NOVEMBER AND THEY AGREED.
9:07:11AM THEY WEREN'T READY, SO WE SWITCHED TO DECEMBER, AND THEY
9:07:14AM WEREN'T READY SO WE SWITCHED TO JANUARY AND THEY ARE NOT
9:07:17AM READY.
9:07:17AM NOW THEY ARE NOT READY IN FEBRUARY.
9:07:19AM WE CLEARED THE HURDLES FOR THEM TO FIX THE JACKSON HOUSE,

9:07:22AM AND NO PLAN HAS BEEN PRESENTED YET ON WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO
9:07:25AM DO.
9:07:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THAT.
9:07:29AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD ASK THEM TO COME WITH A PLAN AT THIS
9:07:33AM DATE THAT WE'VE SET.
9:07:34AM AGAIN, WE'VE CONTINUED IT FOUR OR FIVE TIMES.
9:07:37AM IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PLAN, THEY ARE PARTNERING WITH THE
9:07:39AM HISTORY CENTER AND USF, THEY REALLY SHOULD TURN THE PROJECT
9:07:42AM OVER TO ONE OF THOSE TWO ENTITIES SO WE CAN GET THIS DONE.
9:07:45AM I DROVE BY YESTERDAY AND IT'S FALLING APART WORSE THAN EVER.
9:07:49AM IT'S NOT GOING TO LAST A FEW MORE MONTHS.
9:07:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:07:53AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:07:54AM ALL IN FAVOR, THIS IS TO CONTINUE.
9:07:56AM AYE.
9:07:57AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:07:57AM ALL RIGHT.
9:07:58AM I HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT
9:08:00AM REQUESTING TO REMOVE ITEM 16 FROM THE AGENDA.
9:08:03AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION?
9:08:04AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:08:06AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:08:07AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:08AM AYE.
9:08:09AM ANY OPPOSED?

9:08:09AM WE'RE GOING TO TAKE ITEM NUMBER 43 FIRST AFTER PUBLIC
9:08:15AM COMMENT.
9:08:17AM TAKE A LOOK AT IT REAL QUICK.
9:08:19AM THAT IS REGARDING MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
9:08:21AM THAT IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
9:08:22AM YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT THEN OR YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT DURING
9:08:26AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:08:26AM EITHER WAY, IT'S COMING UP RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:08:30AM ALL RIGHT.
9:08:30AM I'LL GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS AT THIS TIME.
9:08:32AM THERE IS NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
9:08:36AM I HAVE A MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA REQUESTING
9:08:38AM THAT ITEM NUMBER 60 BE CONTINUED TO THE APRIL 18 MEETING.
9:08:46AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
9:08:48AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:08:50AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:08:51AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:08:51AM AYE.
9:08:52AM WE HAVE A REQUEST TO MOVE ITEM NUMBER 65 TO BE HEARD FIRST
9:08:59AM UNDER STAFF REPORTS. WE WILL DO THAT.
9:09:06AM I HAVE A MEMO FROM OCEA WYNN REQUESTING THAT ITEM 66 BE
9:09:12AM CONTINUED TO MARCH 28.
9:09:14AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
9:09:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION?
9:09:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.

9:09:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ITEM 66.
9:09:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:09:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT IF I WANT TO KEEP IT ON THE AGENDA?
9:09:27AM WHAT DO YOU DO?
9:09:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T THINK SHE'S READY TO PRESENT ON
9:09:32AM IT.
9:09:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WELL, THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS HERE.
9:09:36AM HE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
9:09:37AM THIS IS KIND OF OLD.
9:09:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT ALL RIGHT, CHIEF BENNETT?
9:09:44AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:09:45AM GOOD MORNING, PUBLIC.
9:09:46AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:09:47AM I'M ALWAYS WILLING TO TALK IN SUPPORT OF MOVING CITY
9:09:50AM BUSINESS FORWARD.
9:09:51AM HOWEVER, THERE ARE ADDITIONAL STAKEHOLDERS.
9:09:54AM OCEA WYNN IS THE LEAD.
9:09:57AM LEGAL IS INVOLVED AS WELL AS THE BUDGET OFFICE.
9:09:59AM I CAN TRY AND AGGREGATE ALL THE CONVERSATIONS AND HAVE A
9:10:02AM CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AT OR SIMPLY TELL YOU NOW,
9:10:05AM EITHER WAY.
9:10:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
9:10:06AM BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA A FEW MONTHS AGO.
9:10:08AM >>JOHN BENNETT: IT WAS.
9:10:09AM AND IT MOVED.

9:10:10AM AND IT WASN'T FINALIZED BY OUR PARTNER AGENCY, AND SO I
9:10:14AM ASKED WHY, AND THEN I FOUND OUT, DECONSTRUCTED IT, WORKED
9:10:18AM WITH LEGAL, GAVE IT TO THE PORTFOLIO TO UPDATE AND THEY ARE
9:10:21AM WORKING ON THAT NOW.
9:10:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON HAD HIS HAND UP.
9:10:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: I FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT WE SHOULDN'T KEEP
9:10:32AM KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD.
9:10:33AM HOWEVER, MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S GOING ON IS THERE ARE
9:10:36AM BEHIND-THE-SCENES NEGOTIATIONS GOING ON.
9:10:38AM THIS COULD POTENTIALLY END UP IN LITIGATION.
9:10:40AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE Ts ARE CROSSED BEFORE IT
9:10:43AM COMES UP.
9:10:43AM I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THE CONTINUANCE JUST FOR THAT.
9:10:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE FROM
9:10:48AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:10:49AM IS THAT CORRECT?
9:10:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
9:10:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE SECOND WAS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
9:10:51AM HURTAK.
9:10:52AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:10:53AM AYE.
9:10:53AM LET ME GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORTS.
9:10:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ITEM NUMBER 49 WANTS TO BE WITHDRAWN AND 50
9:11:01AM WANTS TO BE CONTINUED.
9:11:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

9:11:03AM WE HAVE BEEN REQUESTED -- WE HAVE A REQUEST TO HOLD THIS
9:11:08AM UNTIL 10:30.
9:11:09AM ABOUT WITHDRAWING IT AND CONTINUING IT.
9:11:13AM 49 AND 50, BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL 10:30 WHEN THE PUBLIC
9:11:16AM HEARING IS OPENED.
9:11:18AM I'LL GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS.
9:11:20AM WE HAVE NO ADMINISTRATION UPDATE.
9:11:23AM ITEM 65 FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:11:26AM ITEM NUMBER 52, YES, I WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY HERE.
9:11:30AM ALL RIGHT.
9:11:32AM THAT IS A YES.
9:11:33AM ITEM NUMBER 53, THIS IS PART TWO -- SORRY, THIS IS PART ONE
9:11:39AM OF TWO, WITH 54.
9:11:40AM DO WE NEED SOMEBODY HERE?
9:11:42AM NO.
9:11:43AM ITEM NUMBER 54 IS PART OF 53.
9:11:49AM NO.
9:11:50AM ALL RIGHT.
9:11:50AM ITEM 55 YES.
9:11:53AM >> YES.
9:11:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:11:54AM ITEM 56.
9:11:57AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:11:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:11:58AM THAT IS A YES.

9:11:59AM ITEM NUMBER 57.
9:12:01AM WE HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT.
9:12:02AM THIS IS COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA'S MOTION.
9:12:04AM I'M GOING TO -- LET'S JUST HOLD -- PUT A YES ON IT UNLESS
9:12:09AM COUNCILMAN VIERA SAYS DIFFERENTLY WHEN HE GETS HERE.
9:12:12AM ANOTHER ONE IS A WRITTEN REPORT FOR 58, BUT I'M GOING TO
9:12:16AM HOLD OFF ON CONTINUING IT.
9:12:18AM I'LL DO A YES BECAUSE IT'S COUNCILMAN VIERA AS WELL.
9:12:21AM ITEM NUMBER 59, YES, I'M GOING TO SAY, BECAUSE COUNCILMAN
9:12:26AM VIERA AS WELL.
9:12:27AM 60 WE DISCUSSED.
9:12:29AM 61.
9:12:31AM >> YES.
9:12:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:12:32AM YES.
9:12:32AM WE RECEIVED A LOT OF -- ITEM 62?
9:12:36AM THIS IS YOUR MOTION.
9:12:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH.
9:12:39AM I'M ACTUALLY FINE WITH THE WRITTEN REPORT.
9:12:43AM IT WAS VERY CLEAR.
9:12:45AM ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS JUST SAY WE WANT IT TO MOVE FORWARD.
9:12:48AM SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I NEED STAFF FOR THAT.
9:12:53AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
9:12:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, WE WILL HOLD FOR A MOTION.
9:12:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE OR JUST --

9:12:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OR TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO NEXT.
9:13:00AM THE REPORT WAS VERY CLEAR, BUT WE STILL NEED TO MAKE A
9:13:03AM DECISION ON WHICH DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO.
9:13:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL PUT A YES WITH 62.
9:13:08AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T NEED STAFF.
9:13:09AM WE JUST NEED TO MAKE A DECISION.
9:13:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
9:13:11AM ALL RIGHT.
9:13:12AM ITEM NUMBER 63.
9:13:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE MEMO WAS SUFFICIENT, BUT THERE IS A
9:13:18AM RESOLUTION THAT CAME WITH THE MEMO THAT'S UNDER DRAFT.
9:13:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT IS PROVIDED FOR
9:13:26AM COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
9:13:27AM IF COUNCIL WISHES TO CHOOSE AFTER TAKING THIS ITEM UP TO GO
9:13:30AM FORWARD, THAT WOULD BE A MOTION TO PUT IT ON FOR FUTURE
9:13:34AM AGENDA.
9:13:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL SAY YES AND HOLD IT.
9:13:36AM AT THAT TIME WE'LL BRING UP THE MOTION.
9:13:38AM ITEM NUMBER 64.
9:13:40AM THERE IS A PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED MEMORANDUM.
9:13:43AM THE ORIGINAL MOTION IS BY COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:13:45AM WOULD YOU LIKE SOMEBODY PRESENT FOR 64?
9:13:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 64, NO.
9:13:50AM I WANT SOMEONE PRESENT FOR 63 -- WELL, 48 IS THE ONE WE HAVE
9:13:57AM TO VOTE ON.

9:13:58AM 64 NO.
9:14:00AM LET ME TAKE A LOOK AGAIN.
9:14:01AM I DID MY HOMEWORK --
9:14:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I THINK THAT IS THE ORDINANCE ASSOCIATED
9:14:05AM WITH THE DISCUSSION OF 63.
9:14:07AM MAYBE I'M MISTAKEN.
9:14:08AM NO?
9:14:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, SOMEONE CAN BE HERE FOR 64.
9:14:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES ON 64.
9:14:24AM 65?
9:14:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
9:14:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
9:14:28AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:14:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE ONE MORE.
9:14:35AM ITEM NUMBER 2, IS I WANT TO ADD IT TO STAFF UNFINISHED
9:14:39AM BUSINESS.
9:14:40AM IT'S CEREMONIAL BUT I WANT TO ADD IT TO THE AGENDA FOR
9:14:44AM STAFF.
9:14:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR DISCUSSION.
9:14:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
9:14:47AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: RATHER THAN TAKE IT UP UNDER PRESENTATION.
9:14:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WELL, THEY ARE GOING TO PRESENT, BUT I
9:14:53AM WANT TO DISCUSS IT UNDER UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
9:15:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL HAVE THE PRESENTATION BY THE
9:15:02AM CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE BUT THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT

9:15:06AM LATER ON.
9:15:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CORRECT, UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
9:15:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS A MOTION TO ADD TO THE AGENDA.
9:15:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:15:13AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
9:15:14AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:14AM AYE.
9:15:15AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:15:15AM ALL RIGHT.
9:15:17AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
9:15:21AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
9:15:22AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:15:24AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:15:24AM AYE.
9:15:26AM ALL RIGHT.
9:15:26AM MR. SHELBY.
9:15:30AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF
9:15:32AM CITY COUNCIL.
9:15:33AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, DISCUSSING PUBLIC
9:15:37AM COMMENT.
9:15:37AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
9:15:39AM AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S COUNCIL MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY
9:15:42AM ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION
9:15:45AM ON AN ITEM.
9:15:46AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING

9:15:51AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:15:52AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE REMINDED THAT THEY
9:15:55AM ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING
9:15:59AM VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
9:16:02AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:16:06AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
9:16:09AM PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR
9:16:13AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
9:16:14AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:16:18AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CITY
9:16:21AM COUNCIL FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:16:24AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL'S RULES MAY ALSO
9:16:28AM BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY
9:16:31AM BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT DAY'S
9:16:35AM MEETING.
9:16:36AM NOW, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS SET FOR A PUBLIC
9:16:39AM HEARING, AS IT APPEARS ON THE AGENDA, YOU WILL HAVE THAT
9:16:43AM OPPORTUNITY WHEN THE ITEM IS HEARD LATER IN THE AGENDA.
9:16:46AM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CEMETERY DESIGNATION.
9:16:51AM THAT WILL FOLLOW IMMEDIATELY PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:16:53AM NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN LATER DURING STAFF REPORTS.
9:16:56AM THE TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT THOSE ITEMS UNDER STAFF REPORTS AND
9:17:00AM ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
9:17:04AM THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP.
9:17:05AM AND FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE, MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN

9:17:10AM FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC
9:17:14AM SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE YOUR
9:17:16AM QUESTIONS OR ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE WITH YOU DURING GENERAL
9:17:20AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:17:20AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
9:17:24AM THANK YOU.
9:17:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHELBY.
9:17:25AM I JUST SPOKE WITH MY AIDE AND MR. MASSEY REGARDING 63, HE
9:17:31AM DOES NOT NEED TO BE PRESENT FOR 63.
9:17:34AM HE WILL BE PRESENT FOR 64.
9:17:36AM EVEN THOUGH WE ASKED YES FOR 63.
9:17:45AM IS THAT CORRECT, LISA?
9:17:46AM WE'LL GET TO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THAT.
9:17:51AM AT THIS TIME, WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER 2.
9:17:53AM WE HAVE THE CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO PRESENT AT
9:17:55AM LEAST TWO TO THREE OPTIONS REGARDING A SALARY INCREASE AND
9:17:59AM TO WORK WITH STAFF.
9:18:00AM WHO WILL BE PRESENTING?
9:18:01AM YES, SIR, DR. NEWMAN.
9:18:04AM GO AHEAD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:18:05AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
9:18:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND COUNCILMAN VIERA IS HERE.
9:18:18AM >> ON NOVEMBER 2, 2023, CITY COUNCIL WAS -- REQUESTED THE
9:18:23AM BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD PRESENT TWO TO THREE OPTIONS FOR CITY
9:18:26AM COUNCIL TO CONSIDER --

9:18:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
9:18:29AM >> OH, I APOLOGIZE.
9:18:31AM CRAIG NEWMAN.
9:18:34AM I'M THE CHAIRMAN OF THE CITY BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.
9:18:37AM I'LL CONTINUE.
9:18:38AM I'LL START FROM THE BEGINNING SO WE GOT IT ALL STRAIGHT.
9:18:42AM ON NOVEMBER 2, 2023, CITY COUNCIL REQUESTED THE BUDGET
9:18:45AM ADVISORY BOARD PRESENT TWO TO THREE OPTIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL
9:18:48AM TO CONSIDER REGARDING THE SALARY INCREASE.
9:18:50AM THESE ARE THE -- THESE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS FOR THE CITY
9:18:54AM COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.
9:18:55AM ONE, MAINTAIN THE CURRENT SYSTEM AS IS, WHICH IS TIED TO THE
9:19:00AM CITY MANAGER'S 3%.
9:19:02AM NUMBER TWO, ESTABLISH A PAY SCALE FOR THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL
9:19:06AM STARTING ON MAY 1, 2027.
9:19:09AM NUMBER THREE, REQUEST STAFF TO CONDUCT A PAY/EQUITY STUDY ON
9:19:13AM CITY COUNCIL SALARIES.
9:19:14AM THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP THROUGH THE
9:19:20AM CITY BUDGET ADVISORY BOARD.
9:19:21AM ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
9:19:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:19:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I BELIEVE THAT NUMBER THREE HAS ALREADY BEEN
9:19:29AM DONE BY THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
9:19:30AM IS THAT CORRECT?
9:19:37AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.

9:19:40AM THAT IS CORRECT.
9:19:40AM WE TOOK INPUT FROM VARIOUS SOURCES.
9:19:44AM WE LOOKED AT SIMILAR JURISDICTIONS, AND THEN WE TRIED TO
9:19:48AM MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT BASED ON WHAT WE UNDERSTOOD AT THE TIME.
9:19:53AM TIMING IS ALWAYS MAYBE A CHALLENGE, BUT WE TRY TO PUT THE
9:19:56AM MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION.
9:19:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
9:19:59AM WONDERFUL.
9:19:59AM I GUESS WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE.
9:20:02AM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I PUT THAT INTO THE RECORD.
9:20:04AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:20:07AM >> THANK YOU.
9:20:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL DISCUSS THIS FURTHER AS REQUESTED
9:20:14AM BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON LATER ON IN THE AGENDA.
9:20:17AM IS THAT IT, SIR?
9:20:19AM >> THAT'S IT.
9:20:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU COULDN'T HIT THAT DOOR ANY FASTER.
9:20:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ENJOY YOUR DAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:20:25AM AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO
9:20:28AM TAKE THE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS FIRST.
9:20:29AM WE HAVE TEN PEOPLE LISTED FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:20:31AM THE FIRST GENTLEMAN THAT I HAVE IS MR. CHRIS CURRY.
9:20:35AM CHRIS CURRY, IF YOU ARE ONLINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF,
9:20:38AM STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:20:40AM >> HE'S NOT ONLINE.

9:20:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE'S NOT ONLINE.
9:20:42AM NEXT IS ALIS BEECHY.
9:20:44AM IF YOU ARE ONLINE, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, YOU HAVE
9:20:48AM THREE MINUTES.
9:20:49AM >> SHE'S NOT ON EITHER.
9:20:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIRD IS MR. FRANKLIN PEREZ.
9:20:52AM MR. PEREZ, IF YOU'RE ONLINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
9:20:55AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, STATE YOUR NAME.
9:20:57AM >> YES, SIR, FRANKLIN PEREZ.
9:20:59AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:21:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:21:02AM >> MY NAME IS FRANKLIN PEREZ.
9:21:04AM I LIVE IN SEMINOLE AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTIES.
9:21:06AM PLEASE RESCIND ALL PRO-ISRAEL RESOLUTIONS YOU HAVE MADE IN
9:21:09AM THE PAST.
9:21:10AM ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
9:21:11AM ISRAEL IS A JEWISH SUPREMACIST APARTHEID STATE THAT HAS BEEN
9:21:15AM COMMITTING ETHNIC CLEANSING AND HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES AGAINST
9:21:18AM PALESTINIANS FOR 75-PLUS YEARS, AND NOW YOU CAN ADD GENOCIDE
9:21:22AM AS ISRAEL IS ON TRIAL AT THE HAGUE FOR GENOCIDE AGAINST
9:21:26AM PALESTINIANS.
9:21:27AM STOP SUPPORTING ISRAEL.
9:21:28AM STOP GIVING IT WEAPONS.
9:21:29AM STOP GIVING IT MONEY AND CONDEMN IT FOR WHAT IT IS -- AN
9:21:32AM APARTHEID AND GENOCIDAL STATE.

9:21:35AM MANY HUMAN RIGHTS EXPERTS REFER TO GAZA AS AN OPEN AIR
9:21:38AM CONCENTRATION CAMP.
9:21:39AM THE ISRAELI APARTHEID REGIME PRIME MINISTER, BENJAMIN
9:21:42AM NETANYAHU, HAS INVOKED GENOCIDAL LANGUAGE AGAINST
9:21:46AM PALESTINIANS IN THE GAZA CONCENTRATION CAMP BY REFERRING TO
9:21:49AM AN ANCIENT BIBLICAL PASSAGE IN THE OLD TESTAMENT COMPARING
9:21:52AM PALESTINIANS TO THE AMALEKITES THAT MUST ALL BE PUT TO
9:21:56AM DEATH -- MEN, WOMEN, CHILDREN, BABIES.
9:21:58AM THE ISRAELI APARTHEID REGIME DEFENSE MINISTER, YOAV GALLANT,
9:22:03AM HAS DEHUMANIZED PALESTINIANS BY REFERRING TO PALESTINIANS IN
9:22:06AM THE GAZA CONCENTRATION CAMP AS HUMAN ANIMALS.
9:22:09AM MIKO PELED, ISRAELI JEW, SON OF A FAMOUS ISRAELI JEW
9:22:11AM GENERAL, EX-ZIONIST OCCUPATION ENFORCER AND PALESTINIAN
9:22:17AM RIGHTS ACTIVIST HAS STATED THAT THE ISRAELI ARMY IS THE BEST
9:22:20AM TERRORIST GROUP IN THE WORLD.
9:22:22AM EX-ISRAELI JEW ZIONIST OCCUPATION FORCES PILOT, YONATAN
9:22:24AM SHAPIRA, HAS STATED THAT THE ISRAELI ARMY IS A TERRORIST
9:22:28AM ORGANIZATION RUN BY WAR CRIMINALS.
9:22:30AM AT THIS POINT, SCATTERED ZIONIST ONLY OCCUPIER SETTLEMENTS
9:22:34AM IN THE WEST BANK, THE ONLY FAIR SOLUTION TO THE ISRAEL
9:22:37AM PALESTINE CONFLICT IS A ONE-STAGE SOLUTION WHERE EVERYONE,
9:22:40AM JEW AND PALESTINIAN, HAS EQUAL RIGHTS.
9:22:42AM THAT'S WHY IT IS REFERRED TO AS A FREE PALESTINE FROM THE
9:22:45AM JORDAN RIVER TO THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA.
9:22:48AM ALL U.S. GOVERNMENT ENTITIES SHOULD BE PRESSURING THE

9:22:50AM ISRAELI APARTHEID REGIME TO MOVE TOWARD SUCH A FREE
9:22:54AM PALESTINE THAT INCLUDES THE DISMANTLING OF THE GAZA
9:22:57AM CONCENTRATION CAMP.
9:22:57AM THE REFRAIN THAT ISRAEL HAS THE RIGHT TO SELF-DEFENSE IS A
9:23:01AM RED HERRING.
9:23:02AM THE REAL QUESTION IS, DOES ISRAEL HAVE THE RIGHT TO USE
9:23:05AM FORCE TO MAINTAIN AN ILLEGAL OCCUPATION IN APARTHEID STATE
9:23:06AM THAT COMMITS ETHNIC CLEANSING, GENOCIDE, AND HUMAN RIGHTS
9:23:09AM ABUSES AGAINST PALESTINIANS?
9:23:11AM THE CLEAR ANSWER IS NO.
9:23:12AM UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW, ISRAEL HAS NO RIGHT OF SELF-DEFENSE
9:23:15AM WHEN IT IS THE OPPRESSOR AND OCCUPIER WHILE PALESTINIANS DO
9:23:19AM HAVE THE RIGHT TO PHYSICALLY RESIST AND DEFEND THEMSELVES
9:23:22AM AGAINST THEIR OPPRESSOR AND OCCUPIER, THE ISRAELI APARTHEID
9:23:25AM REGIME.
9:23:25AM OUR TAX DOLLARS SHOULD BE GOING BACK TO OUR OWN COMMUNITY,
9:23:28AM NOT TO SUPPORT UNRELENTING BOMBING AND GENOCIDE IN GAZA.
9:23:31AM NO MORE MONEY FOR ISRAEL'S CRIMES.
9:23:33AM I REQUEST THAT THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL INTRODUCE A RESOLUTION
9:23:36AM TO STAND WITH PALESTINIANS IN DEMANDING AN END TO THE SIEGE
9:23:40AM OF GAZA, A PERMANENT CEASE-FIRE, AND AN END TO ALL U.S. AID
9:23:44AM TO ISRAEL -- MILITARY, ECONOMIC, POLITICAL.
9:23:46AM CEASE FIRE NOW, CEASE FIRE NOW, CEASE FIRE NOW.
9:23:49AM THANK YOU.
9:23:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:23:50AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:23:53AM MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU ARE ONLINE, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND STATE
9:23:56AM YOUR NAME.
9:23:57AM >>THE CLERK: THE ONLY OTHER PERSON ONLINE IS ED.
9:24:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS MR. RANDOLPH ON?
9:24:02AM >> NO.
9:24:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
9:24:03AM WE GO TO MR. ED AUSTIN.
9:24:05AM MR. AUSTIN, IF YOU ARE ONLINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND
9:24:08AM STATE YOUR NAME.
9:24:08AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:24:09AM MR. AUSTIN, IF YOU ARE ONLINE, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND
9:24:22AM STATE YOUR NAME.
9:24:23AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:24:24AM MR. AUSTIN?
9:24:35AM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
9:24:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THAT IS THE CASE, WE'LL CONTINUE WITH
9:24:39AM PUBLIC COMMENT AND GO TO IN-PERSON COMMENT.
9:24:42AM I SEE ANDREW WARREN IF YOU WANT TO START OFF.
9:24:45AM GOOD MORNING, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:24:46AM >> HI.
9:24:47AM GOOD MORNING.
9:24:47AM ANDREW WARREN, DULY ELECTED STATE ATTORNEY HERE IN
9:24:52AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:24:52AM WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS VIOLATE THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL VALUES OF

9:24:56AM OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM BY PUNISHING THE INNOCENT AND
9:24:59AM LETTING THE GUILTY GO FREE.
9:25:00AM THAT'S WHY AT THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WE STARTED A
9:25:03AM CONVICTION REVIEW UNIT, A SPECIALIZED UNIT TO IDENTIFY AND
9:25:07AM FIX WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS.
9:25:09AM IN 2020 WE EXONERATED ROBERT DUBOISE, A MAN LOCKED UP FOR 37
9:25:14AM YEARS FOR RAPE AND MURDER THAT HE DIDN'T COMMIT.
9:25:16AM NOW, ROBERT'S CASE THAT EXONERATION EXEMPLIFIES
9:25:21AM PROSECUTORIAL SUCCESS, EXONERATING THE INNOCENT, GOING AFTER
9:25:25AM THE ACTUAL PERPETRATORS, DELIVERING JUSTICE TO VICTIMS AND
9:25:29AM THEIR FAMILIES AND FINDING WAYS TO IMPROVE THE SYSTEM.
9:25:32AM DNA EVIDENCE PROVED ROBERT'S INNOCENCE AND IT LED TO US THE
9:25:36AM TWO PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY COMMITTED THAT CRIME.
9:25:38AM TWO YEARS LATER WE FOUND AND INDICTED THEM FOR THAT HEINOUS
9:25:42AM MURDER.
9:25:43AM NOW, ROBERT'S CONVICTION WAS A TERRIBLE INJUSTICE, AND I'M
9:25:47AM PROUD TO HAVE LED THE CHARGE TO RIGHT THAT WRONG.
9:25:49AM BUT I DID NOT DO IT ALONE.
9:25:52AM I WANT TO THANK TERESA HALL AND RAY ESTEVEZ WHO LED THE
9:25:56AM CONVICTION REVIEW UNIT INVESTIGATION.
9:25:57AM THANK THE DETECTIVES FROM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AND
9:26:00AM FDLE WHO DID INCREDIBLE WORK TO UNCOVER THE WRONG AND TO
9:26:05AM ACTUALLY HELP BUILD THE CASE AGAINST THE ACTUAL
9:26:07AM PERPETRATORS.
9:26:08AM I WANT TO THANK JUDGE CHRIS NASH WHO REVIEWED THE EVIDENCE,

9:26:12AM RECOGNIZED HIS INNOCENCE AND ORDERED ROBERT'S RELEASE.
9:26:16AM EVEN THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE WHO PUT ASIDE PARTISANSHIP AND
9:26:19AM CAME TOGETHER IN A NEAR UNANIMOUS VOTE TO EXONERATE ROBERT.
9:26:23AM OF COURSE, HERE TODAY THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE VOTING
9:26:26AM ON COMPENSATION FOR ROBERT.
9:26:29AM I'LL TELL YOU, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW YOU PUT A PRICE ON 37
9:26:32AM YEARS OF FREEDOM THAT'S BEEN TAKEN AWAY.
9:26:35AM BUT I TRUST OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS, OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND
9:26:38AM OUR MAYOR TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
9:26:40AM AFTER ALL, THAT'S HOW DEMOCRACY IS SUPPOSED TO WORK.
9:26:45AM UNFORTUNATELY NOT EVERYONE BELIEVES IN SEEKING JUSTICE.
9:26:48AM I'M DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR THAT THE ACTING STATE ATTORNEY,
9:26:51AM UNELECTED AND ILLEGALLY APPOINTED DOESN'T BELIEVE IN THE
9:26:56AM IDEA OF CONVICTION INTEGRITY AND EFFECTIVELY DISBANDED THAT
9:26:59AM UNIT IN THE OFFICE.
9:27:01AM LOOK, PROSECUTORS SHOULD RELENTLESSLY PURSUE JUSTICE ALWAYS.
9:27:08AM OUR UNIT REVIEWED HUNDREDS OF CASES WHERE WE PROVED THE
9:27:11AM SYSTEM GOT IT RIGHT, WHICH INSTILLS CONFIDENCE AND BRINGS
9:27:15AM CLOSURE TO VICTIMS' FAMILIES.
9:27:17AM IN THIS CASE OF ROBERT DUBOISE IS THE EXTREMELY RARE
9:27:20AM EXCEPTION WHERE WE GOT IT TOTALLY WRONG.
9:27:23AM I'M GLAD THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IS TAKING A VOTE ON THIS TO
9:27:27AM GIVE A VICTORY THAT'S BEEN WAITING FOR 40 YEARS.
9:27:30AM THIS IS A HUGE VICTORY FOR JUSTICE, A VICTORY NOT JUST FOR
9:27:33AM ROBERT, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE TAMPA BAY COMMUNITY AND EVERYONE

9:27:37AM WHO BELIEVES THAT THE TIME IS ALWAYS RIGHT TO DO WHAT'S
9:27:41AM RIGHT.
9:27:41AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:27:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:27:43AM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:27:48AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:27:49AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
9:27:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:27:55AM BOBBY CREIGHTON.
9:27:57AM I LIVE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:28:00AM I WANTED TO SPEAK ON ITEM 65, FUTURE LAND USE UPDATE THAT'S
9:28:03AM COMING BEFORE YOU TODAY.
9:28:04AM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL FOR THEIR HISTORIC
9:28:06AM BUDGET CONTRIBUTIONS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:28:08AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING TO EXPAND THE
9:28:11AM STREETCAR TO ENHANCE TRANSIT CONNECTIVITY THROUGHOUT THE
9:28:14AM URBAN CORE.
9:28:15AM THESE ISSUES SHOW THAT YOU HAVE HISTORIC COMMITMENTS TO
9:28:19AM IMPORTANT ISSUES FACING OUR CITY.
9:28:22AM IN GRAD SCHOOL, I LIVED IN CAMBRIDGE, MASSACHUSETTS, NEAR
9:28:26AM DAVIS SQUARE.
9:28:27AM I LIVED A 10-MINUTE WALK OR BIKE RIDE FROM SINGLE-FAMILY
9:28:31AM NEIGHBORHOODS, MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL STREETS, MIXED USE
9:28:34AM CORRIDORS WITH BARS, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL, DENTIST OFFICE,
9:28:37AM PRIMARY CARE PROVIDER OFFICES, GROCERY STORES, THEATER,

9:28:40AM SUBWAY STATION, COMMUTER RAIL, BUS SERVICE, CHURCHES,
9:28:43AM GREENSPACES, ON AND ON.
9:28:45AM TEN MINUTE WALK, TEN MINUTE BIKE RIDE.
9:28:47AM IT WAS AMAZING.
9:28:48AM DIDN'T NEED A CAR.
9:28:49AM DIDN'T HAVE A CAR.
9:28:50AM ALL THIS DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT WORKED REALLY WELL TO MAKE A
9:28:53AM VERY LIVABLE PLACE.
9:28:54AM THAT EXPERIENCE TURNED ME INTO SOMEWHAT OF A ZEALOT.
9:28:58AM I SENT YOU ALL VERY IMPASSIONED E-MAILS BECAUSE I AND OTHERS
9:29:03AM WANT TO LIVE IN A VERSION OF TAMPA THAT MORE CLOSELY
9:29:07AM RESEMBLES THAT KIND OF ENVIRONMENT.
9:29:08AM I THINK THAT THE CONSULTANT FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE UPDATES
9:29:11AM AS WELL AS CITY AND INTERLOCAL AGENCY STAFF HAVE DONE A FINE
9:29:15AM JOB OF RECOMMENDING CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO GENERATE MORE
9:29:18AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DENSITY.
9:29:19AM BUT I WOULD LIKE TO RESPECTFULLY EXPRESS MY CONCERNS THAT
9:29:22AM THE RECOMMENDATIONS DON'T GO FAR ENOUGH TO ADDRESS THE
9:29:25AM DEMANDS THAT WE MAY FACE WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH OF OVER
9:29:28AM 400 NEW RESIDENTS A MONTH.
9:29:30AM I SUSPECT IT'S NOT SUFFICIENT TO PRODUCE THE URBAN CONTEXT
9:29:34AM THAT I JUST DESCRIBED.
9:29:36AM WILL DEVELOPMENT BE FAST ENOUGH TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH?
9:29:39AM WILL IT BE ENOUGH TO PREVENT RESIDENTS THAT ARE THE FABRIC
9:29:42AM OF TAMPA'S HISTORY AND CULTURE FROM BEING DISPLACED?

9:29:45AM I HOPE SOMEONE CAN SHOW THE PUBLIC HOW THAT PENCILS OUT WITH
9:29:49AM THE NUMBERS.
9:29:49AM THE VISION OF THE PLAN BEING PRESENTED IS ONE WE SHOULD HAVE
9:29:53AM HAD 20 OR 30 YEARS AGO AND BE LIVING IN TODAY.
9:29:56AM IT FEELS SAFE BECAUSE IT MEETS THE EXPECTATION OF THE
9:29:58AM PRESENT, BUT I'M AFRAID IT DOESN'T FULLY ADDRESS THE NEEDS
9:30:02AM OF THE FUTURE.
9:30:02AM WITH SO MUCH OF THE CITY LIMITED TO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND
9:30:06AM SO MUCH LIMITED SPACE ON THE CORRIDORS, WHERE ARE ALL THESE
9:30:09AM PEOPLE GOING TO GO?
9:30:10AM I HOPE THE EXPERTS AND PROFESSIONALS CAN SHOW THE PUBLIC HOW
9:30:13AM THIS PENCILS OUT IN A FUNCTIONAL PLAN, AND I HOPE THAT THE
9:30:18AM HOUSING WORKSHOP PROVIDES ADDITIONAL CONTEXT FOR FRAMING
9:30:23AM THAT ISSUE.
9:30:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:30:24AM YES, MA'AM.
9:30:24AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:30:26AM >> HI.
9:30:27AM HUMAIRA AFZAL, AND I LIVE IN TAMPA.
9:30:32AM OVER 50 TAMPA CITY COUNCILS ACROSS THE U.S. PASSED SOME
9:30:36AM RESOLUTION CALLING FOR A CEASE FIRE IN GAZA.
9:30:39AM AKRON, OHIO, ALBANY, NEW YORK, MADISON, WISCONSIN, SEATTLE,
9:30:43AM EUGENE, OREGON.
9:30:45AM MEANWHILE, YOU ALL REMAIN SILENT.
9:30:46AM YOUR COUNTERPARTS IN ST. PETE ACTUALLY HAVE A CEASE FIRE

9:30:50AM RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON.
9:30:52AM YOU ALL HAVE A COPY IN YOUR IN-BOX.
9:30:55AM RICHIE FLOYD, THE ST. PETE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO
9:30:59AM INTRODUCED THE RESOLUTION, HAS FINALLY SHOWN THERE IS AT
9:31:03AM LEAST ONE ELECTED LEADER IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA WITH THE
9:31:05AM MORAL BACKBONE TO SPEAK UP.
9:31:07AM MUCH LIKE PEOPLE ACROSS AMERICA, MANY TAMPA RESIDENTS
9:31:10AM SUPPORT A PERMANENT CEASE FIRE AND DE-ESCALATION OF VIOLENCE
9:31:14AM IN GAZA.
9:31:15AM HERE ARE SOME ACTUAL NUMBERS IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME.
9:31:18AM THESE ARE VERY OLD NUMBERS.
9:31:20AM I CAN TELL YOU THERE ARE A LOT MORE PEOPLE CALLING FOR A
9:31:22AM CEASE FIRE AT THIS POINT.
9:31:23AM YOUR LOCAL PALESTINIAN, ARAB AND MUSLIM NEIGHBORS --
9:31:27AM ISRAEL'S WAR ON GAZA ALSO DIRECTLY AFFECTS MANY PEOPLE WHO
9:31:30AM CALL TAMPA HOME.
9:31:31AM YOUR LOCAL PALESTINIAN, ARAB AND MUSLIM NEIGHBORS ARE
9:31:34AM EXPERIENCING A SHARP RISE IN ANTI-ARAB, ANTI-PALESTINIAN AND
9:31:39AM ESPECIALLY ISLAMOPHOBIA HATE.
9:31:41AM MANY LOCAL RESIDENTS HAVE MULTIPLE FRIENDS AND RELATIVES
9:31:44AM ETHNICALLY CLEANSED IN GAZA OR WRONGFULLY IMPRISONED IN THE
9:31:48AM WEST BANK.
9:31:49AM EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US IS COMPLICIT IN THE WAR CRIMES
9:31:54AM BECAUSE OUR U.S. TAXPAYERS ARE FUNDING THE GENOCIDE.
9:31:57AM OUR OWN REPRESENTATIVES IN CONGRESS HAVE VOTED REPEATEDLY TO

9:32:00AM SEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ISRAEL.
9:32:03AM MOST RECENTLY, $14 BILLION.
9:32:05AM THAT IS ON THE AGENDA THIS MONTH IN CONGRESS.
9:32:07AM OUR OWN -- THAT'S NOT JUST RICK SCOTT AND MARCO RUBIO, BUT
9:32:15AM KATHY CASTOR.
9:32:16AM INSTEAD OF USING THAT MONEY TO FIX PROBLEMS HERE AT HOME,
9:32:19AM THINGS LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT'S BEING USED TO CARPET
9:32:23AM BOMB AND SNIPE CIVILIANS, BLOW UP HOMES, HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS
9:32:26AM AND BAKERIES.
9:32:28AM KATHY CASTOR REPRESENTS BOTH ST. PETE AND TAMPA IN CONGRESS.
9:32:31AM MAYBE SHE'LL STOP VOTING TO FUND GENOCIDE IF BOTH CITIES
9:32:36AM PASS RESOLUTIONS.
9:32:37AM HOW MANY WAR CRIMES WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO SPEAK UP?
9:32:41AM YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE WARY OF FEELING ABANDONED ON THIS,
9:32:47AM GAZA AND OTHER ISSUES.
9:32:48AM HOW MANY MORE PALESTINIANS HAVE TO DIE BEFORE YOU SPEAK UP?
9:32:52AM STARVATION IS BEING USED AS A WEAPON OF WAR.
9:32:55AM I'M SPEAKING OUT BECAUSE I HAVE EMPATHY AND COMPASSION FOR
9:32:58AM OTHER HUMANS FACING HORRIBLE INJUSTICE, AND I WANT IT TO
9:33:02AM STOP.
9:33:02AM I ASK YOU TO DO THE SAME.
9:33:05AM OUR NATIONAL, STATE, AND COUNTY LEADERS HAVE FAILED TO SHOW
9:33:09AM MORAL CLARITY ON THIS TERRIBLE INJUSTICE.
9:33:13AM CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE THE ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES CLOSER
9:33:15AM TO THE PEOPLE AND WE DESERVE BETTER FROM YOU.

9:33:19AM IT'S TIME TO SPEAK UP.
9:33:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:33:20AM YES, SIR.
9:33:21AM MR. COLEMAN, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:33:28AM >> HI.
9:33:28AM DAVE COLEMAN, NORTH TAMPA.
9:33:31AM GOOD MORNING.
9:33:31AM THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS IS WHY
9:33:35AM TAMPA CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.
9:33:37AM AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE GWEN MYERS SAYING AT JUST THE LAST
9:33:41AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING MEETING THAT HILLSBOROUGH WAS DOING GREAT
9:33:44AM WITH HOMELESSNESS THAT THE NUMBERS ARE DOWN.
9:33:46AM IF YOU ASK THEM, THEY PREFER TO STAY THAT WAY BECAUSE THEY
9:33:48AM MAKE MORE MONEY.
9:33:49AM WITH SUCH A FALSE BELIEF, WE CAN EXPECT LITTLE HELP.
9:33:53AM I RECENTLY ATTENDED A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WHERE A
9:33:56AM PRESENTATION WAS GIVEN BY THE TPO REGARDING THE NEW
9:34:00AM TRANSPORTATION SURVEY.
9:34:00AM IT SEEMS LIKE A REAL EFFORT TOWARDS AN ACTUAL VISION ZERO
9:34:04AM GOAL WHICH THE MAYOR HAS ASKED FOR.
9:34:05AM I LEARNED ABOUT FUNDING THE HALF-CENT TAX AND THE SEVEN CENT
9:34:10AM GAS TAX.
9:34:11AM I REALLY DIDN'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT.
9:34:13AM THAT MONEY IS GOING TO A VARIETY OF THINGS, INCLUDING ROADS,
9:34:16AM TRANSIT, AND EVEN SCHOOLS.

9:34:18AM A TIMES ARTICLE THIS MORNING GOT ME OUT OF BED AND DOWN
9:34:21AM HERE.
9:34:22AM APPARENTLY AT A WORKSHOP JUST YESTERDAY, THE GOP CABAL HAS
9:34:29AM DECIDED THAT OUR VOTED ON HALF CENT TAX NEEDS TO GO ON THE
9:34:33AM BALLOT WITH AN UPCOMING ASK FOR A MILLAGE FOR SCHOOLS WITH
9:34:36AM THE TPO TRYING TO FULFILL THE MAYOR'S PUSH FOR ACTUAL VISION
9:34:39AM ZERO WITH THE FACT THAT THE CITY ONLY HAS 2 BILLION, THE
9:34:41AM SCHOOLS 4 BILLION, AND THE COUNTY HAS 9 BILLION WITH 2.3
9:34:46AM SITTING IN FLUID FUNDS, WE NEED TO FIGHT BACK ON REMOVING
9:34:49AM THIS TAX.
9:34:50AM WE PROBABLY NEED TO INCREASE IT.
9:34:54AM THE MAYOR WAS AT THE MEETING YESTERDAY, AND I KNOW HER STAFF
9:34:57AM AND THIS COUNCIL HAS FAR BETTER PEOPLE THAN ME TO FIGHT THE
9:35:00AM BOCC.
9:35:02AM ASIDE FROM THE UPCOMING FINAL FLU PRESENTATION THURSDAY
9:35:07AM EVENING, 6 P.M., MARCH 7, OUGHT TO BE THREE OPPORTUNITIES TO
9:35:11AM SPEAK ON THIS COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX.
9:35:14AM MARCH 6, MARCH, APRIL, AND A PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL 17.
9:35:18AM I ASSUME ALL ARE GOING TO BE AT THE REGULAR BOCC MEETINGS.
9:35:21AM PLEASE SEND HELP AND WISDOM TO STOP THE BOCC FROM PULLING
9:35:28AM ALL RESOURCES FROM THE URBAN CORE, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT
9:35:32AM THEY KEEP TRYING TO DO.
9:35:33AM I'VE BEEN GOING OVER THERE THE PAST EIGHT MONTHS AND THAT'S
9:35:35AM ALL THEY WANT TO DO.
9:35:36AM THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HAS THE

9:35:39AM ENTIRE CITY WHITED OUT.
9:35:42AM ON A COUPLE OF OTHER NOTES, YOU DESERVE MORE IN SALARIES,
9:35:49AM AND THE JACKSON HOUSE WILL WAIT FOR NO MAN.
9:35:51AM IT'S IN ITS LAST GROANS.
9:35:55AM I DROVE PAST IT YESTERDAY.
9:35:57AM PLEASE SALVAGE WHAT YOU CAN NOW.
9:35:59AM LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ACROSS THE LAND ARE PASSING RESOLUTIONS TO
9:36:01AM SUPPORT A CEASE FIRE.
9:36:02AM PLEASE DO ONE HERE.
9:36:04AM THANK YOU.
9:36:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:36:05AM YES, MA'AM.
9:36:06AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:36:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:36:12AM CONNIE BURTON.
9:36:14AM ANDREW WARREN, THE DULY ELECTED STATE ATTORNEY, GOT IT
9:36:20AM RIGHT.
9:36:22AM AND WHILE HE WAS THERE, HE WAS SO COURAGEOUS, HE WAS ABLE TO
9:36:27AM DO HIS JOB AS WELL AS LOOK BACKWARDS TO SEE WHAT HARM HAD
9:36:32AM BEEN DONE TO THOSE UNDER HIS ADMINISTRATION THAT SHOULD BE
9:36:38AM ENSURED RECEIVING JUSTICE.
9:36:40AM YOU DEMOCRATS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT RIGHT TOO.
9:36:45AM BUT THERE'S SOME RESISTANCE OF DOING WHAT'S RIGHT.
9:36:53AM THE $14 MILLION I WOULD SAY IS NOTHING CONSIDERING
9:36:58AM EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN LOST.

9:37:00AM BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT AN ENTIRE AFRICAN COMMUNITY THAT
9:37:05AM CONTINUES TO LOSE, FROM THE PAST TO THE FUTURE, WE ARE
9:37:10AM CONTINUING TO LOSE.
9:37:12AM WHAT YOU DID, AT LEAST FOUR OF YOU, SIGNED A RESOLUTION IN
9:37:18AM 2020 SAYING YOU UNDERSTOOD OUR LOSS.
9:37:22AM YOU SAID BY YOUR OWN LANGUAGE THAT YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT
9:37:27AM POLICIES HAD BEEN WRITTEN QUIETLY, SECRETLY, THAT BROUGHT
9:37:32AM HARM TO THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY AND YET STILL TO THIS DAY YOU
9:37:37AM CAN'T MOVE FORWARD.
9:37:38AM THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T WRITE RESOLUTION 568; YOU DID.
9:37:42AM YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO REPAIR THE HARM.
9:37:49AM IN THAT RESOLUTION UNDER SECTION 3, IT TALKED ABOUT THOSE
9:37:54AM THAT HAVE BEEN INCARCERATED.
9:37:56AM WHAT YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
9:37:57AM THEY COME BACK TO A COMMUNITY WITH NO SKILLS.
9:37:59AM THE COMMUNITY IS MORE CRIPPLED BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED
9:38:04AM FROM ALL ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
9:38:05AM RECIDIVISM CONTINUE, CONTINUE, CONTINUE.
9:38:09AM AND YET YOU EXPECT US, AS LOYAL SUPPORTERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC
9:38:17AM PARTY AND VOTERS TO SUPPORT YOU.
9:38:20AM HOW CAN WE DO IT?
9:38:21AM NO.
9:38:21AM WE HAVE TO MOVE IN OUR BEST INTERESTS NOW.
9:38:23AM WE ARE HOPING AS YOU COMMEMORATE THE DR. KING CELEBRATION
9:38:28AM THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT HE UNDERSTOOD, WHEN DR. KING SAID,

9:38:33AM LOOK AT THOSE BEAUTIFUL CHURCHES, I WONDER WHAT PEOPLE AND
9:38:36AM WHO DO THEY PRAY TO AND WHAT GOD DO THEY SERVE?
9:38:39AM EVERY WEEK THAT I COME DOWN HERE AND I LOOK AT THAT AGENDA,
9:38:45AM I WONDER IF YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THE BASE THAT HAS BEEN LOYAL
9:38:49AM TO YOU.
9:38:50AM THE BLACK COMMUNITY HAS BEEN LOYAL TO YOU.
9:38:52AM YOU SIGNED THE RESOLUTION IN 2020.
9:38:56AM WE ARE IN 2024.
9:38:58AM OUR COMMUNITY, ACCORDING TO THE STATE OF THE STATE REPORT
9:39:01AM YOU PASSED OUT THE OTHER DAY, ECONOMICALLY WE ARE DOING
9:39:06AM WORSE.
9:39:07AM WE CANNOT PROVIDE A FUTURE FOR OUR CHILDREN.
9:39:10AM WE CANNOT CLOSE THE ECONOMIC GAP THAT IS CONTINUING.
9:39:14AM WE CANNOT SAVE OUR HOUSES BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING NEGLECT.
9:39:18AM IT'S ON YOU.
9:39:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
9:39:21AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:39:25AM >> GREETINGS, STAFF, CITY COUNCIL.
9:39:29AM MY NAME IS DOMINIQUE COBB.
9:39:32AM I AM A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND HAPPY BLACK HISTORY
9:39:38AM MONTH.
9:39:38AM TODAY, I'M HERE ON MULTIPLE I GUESS I WOULD SAY AGENDA
9:39:44AM ITEMS.
9:39:45AM AND ALSO ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:39:48AM I HAVE SERVED AS CRA IN THE EAST TAMPA COMMUNITY FROM

9:39:54AM VARIOUS BOARDS FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY TO HOUSING.
9:39:59AM I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE CHAIR FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR
9:40:02AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT THAT IS NOT WHY I AM HERE.
9:40:05AM I'M HERE TODAY BECAUSE I AM JUST -- I'M UPSET BECAUSE I
9:40:10AM COULD HAVE MOVED ANYPLACE IN THE UNITED STATES AND ABROAD
9:40:14AM WITH MY CAREER OR WITH MY FAMILY, BUT I CHOSE TO STAY HERE
9:40:19AM BECAUSE I HAVE FAMILY.
9:40:20AM WE HAVE ROOTS HERE.
9:40:21AM BUT, UNFORTUNATELY, WITH ALL OF MY STUDIES AND RESEARCH AND
9:40:24AM ALSO A STUDENT OF PUBLIC POLICY, I SEE THAT THE POLICIES
9:40:28AM HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA ARE NOT FOR ME AND MY FAMILY.
9:40:31AM AGAIN, IN AFRICAN SPIRITUALITY WE HAVE CALLED OBARRA O'SHEA,
9:40:41AM WHICH IS THE BELL RINGS THE LOUDEST IN THE HOUSE.
9:40:44AM WHAT THAT MEANS IS BEFORE I CAN HELP ANYBODY ELSE, I HAVE TO
9:40:47AM HELP AND SEE WHAT IS IN MY HOUSE THAT IS WRONG.
9:40:49AM IF THE FIRE ALARM GOES OFF IN MY HOUSE, I HAVE TO SAVE ME
9:40:53AM AND MY CHILDREN.
9:40:54AM UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE FAMILIES HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
9:40:56AM THAT DON'T HAVE A HOME.
9:40:58AM I SEE MULTIPLE RESOLUTIONS ABOUT HOUSING.
9:41:01AM I'VE EVEN WORKED FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY CITY OF TAMPA.
9:41:05AM BEING THERE AND SEEING MULTIPLE VOUCHERS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
9:41:08AM USED FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE FAMILY.
9:41:11AM IT IS A MESS.
9:41:11AM AND I'M BEING VERY EMOTIONAL RIGHT NOW BECAUSE I'VE GONE

9:41:17AM THROUGH THIS.
9:41:17AM I'VE WORKED WITH FAMILIES WHO ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW, AND
9:41:21AM BECAUSE THIS DEMOGRAPHIC LOOKS LIKE THIS, BECAUSE THIS CITY
9:41:24AM LOOKS THE WAY IT DOES, THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO GO FOR HELP.
9:41:28AM SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY FEED REGULARLY.
9:41:31AM WE GIVE CLOTHING.
9:41:33AM UNFORTUNATELY THOSE SMALL INDIVIDUAL CONGLOMERATES, THEY
9:41:39AM DON'T GET THE HELP BECAUSE THE MONEY DOESN'T TRICKLE DOWN.
9:41:42AM THE MONEY GOES TO THE SAME CORPORATIONS.
9:41:44AM SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE SMALL TASK
9:41:48AM FORCES AND RESOLUTIONS THAT'S BEING MADE AND GET IN CONTACT
9:41:50AM WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY GOING THROUGH THESE CRISES.
9:41:54AM NOT ONLY ARE THERE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO START BUSINESSES IN
9:41:57AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, THEY CAN'T DO IT BECAUSE THE PLACES IN
9:42:00AM EAST TAMPA ARE HORRIBLE.
9:42:01AM WE CAN'T EVEN GET ECONOMIC STIMULATION HERE.
9:42:05AM PLEASE, LOOK AT THE BUDGET.
9:42:06AM I ADVISE EVERYONE, ELECTION TIME IS COMING UP RIGHT NOW.
9:42:09AM YES, WE MAY BE DEMOCRATIC, BUT WE MAY NOT BE VOTING.
9:42:13AM THANK YOU AND YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
9:42:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:42:15AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:42:15AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:42:16AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
9:42:25AM >> GOOD MORNING.

9:42:25AM MY NAME IS SALLYISE LEE OF THE VOLUNTARY MISSIONARY SOCIETY
9:42:33AM PENNY FUND.
9:42:34AM I LIFT UP MY EYES WHICH COMETH MY HEALTH BY GOD WHO MADE
9:42:39AM HEAVEN AND EARTH.
9:42:40AM I AM ASKING THE COUNCIL TO PLEASE HELP SISTER GWEN TO COME
9:42:48AM OUT TO THE RESOURCE CENTER SPACE AND HELP HER OPEN THE DOORS
9:42:57AM TO THE VOLUNTEER MISSIONARY SOCIETY CENTER FOR YOUTH AND
9:43:01AM SENIORS.
9:43:03AM WE CAN WIN FOR THE YOUTH AND SENIORS AND LEARN HOW TO LIVE,
9:43:09AM THRIVE, AND SURVIVE.
9:43:11AM WE CAN WIN.
9:43:12AM THANK GOD FOR THE TAMPA POLICE SERVICES HAVE BEEN COMING OUT
9:43:17AM TO CHECK ON US SENIORS, BECAUSE WE GO THROUGH A LOT.
9:43:21AM AND THE POLICE OFFICERS CAN HELP TO CHANGE OUR COMMUNITY.
9:43:28AM LET THAT BE A VOICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY FOR SENIORS AND YOUTH.
9:43:33AM COME LET US REASON TOGETHER.
9:43:35AM AND IF THE CHILDREN WOULD SEE THE PARENTS GETTING ALONG,
9:43:40AM THEY WOULD CHANGE THEIR ATTITUDE WHEN THEY SEE WE ARE ALL
9:43:47AM GOING TOGETHER.
9:43:48AM YOU HAVE BEEN SUMMONED BY GOD.
9:43:51AM EMPTY SPACES, SO WE CAN THRIVE AND SURVIVE.
9:43:55AM WE CAN WIN.
9:43:57AM HELP US.
9:43:58AM TOGETHER WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL.
9:44:01AM AFRICAN BROTHERS AND SISTERS, UNITE NOW.

9:44:06AM FOR GOD FORGIVE OUR SINS AND ATTITUDE.
9:44:12AM UNITE NOW.
9:44:13AM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A DONATION, YOU CAN SEND IT TO SUNCOAST
9:44:16AM CREDIT UNION, 1920 EAST -- STREET.
9:44:24AM WE SHOULD OPPOSE THE SOCIAL SECURITY BILL, HR 281.
9:44:28AM THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE OUR MONEY AWAY, AND I'M WRITING TO
9:44:32AM THEM, ASKING THEM PLEASE DON'T DO THAT.
9:44:34AM AND MAY GOD CEASE FIRE AND BRING PEACE TO THIS EARTH.
9:44:38AM AMEN.
9:44:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:44:45AM YES, MA'AM.
9:44:45AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:44:47AM >> TASIA STAGG.
9:44:49AM THE CITY CODE FOR OVERGROWTH ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THERE'S SUCH
9:45:08AM A THING AS VEGETATION PROTECTED BY THE STATE.
9:45:12AM THE CITY SPECIFICALLY THE FLORIDA STATUTES SPECIFY THAT
9:45:21AM FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPE, THIS IS THE FLORIDA FRIENDLY
9:45:23AM LANDSCAPING STATUTE 373.185.
9:45:27AM AND SPECIFICALLY LOCAL GOVERNMENT ORDINANCE MAY NOT PROHIBIT
9:45:31AM OR BE ENFORCED SO AS TO PROHIBIT ANY PROPERTY OWNER FROM
9:45:36AM IMPLEMENTING FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING ON HIS OR HER
9:45:39AM LAND.
9:45:39AM THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA HAS A PROGRAM TO RECOGNIZE FLORIDA
9:45:47AM FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING.
9:45:53AM IT'S CALLED YARD RECOGNITION.

9:45:55AM THIS IS THEIR CHECKLIST FOR HOW TO QUALIFY FOR OFFICIAL
9:46:00AM RECOGNITION AS A FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPE.
9:46:03AM I'LL SHOW YOU FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING PRINCIPLE 4,
9:46:13AM MULCH.
9:46:14AM FIRST ITEM, SELF-MULCHING AREAS EXIST UNDER TREES WHERE
9:46:19AM LEAFS CAN REMAIN AS THEY FALL.
9:46:21AM YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD OF LEAVE THE LEAFS.
9:46:24AM THEY ARE NOT DIRT.
9:46:25AM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HURT SOMEBODY.
9:46:28AM THEY ARE FREE FERTILIZER.
9:46:31AM IT'S A WASTE AND DESTRUCTIVE TO BLOW THEM.
9:46:35AM SHOULDN'T TREAT THEM LIKE TRASH.
9:46:37AM THEY ARE VALUABLE.
9:46:38AM YESTERDAY I LEARNED THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA FORBIDS LEAVING
9:46:41AM THE LEAFS BECAUSE THEY COULD THEORETICALLY BECOME DISLODGED
9:46:46AM FROM PLANT BEDS AND BLOW ON TO A PUBLIC SIDEWALK.
9:46:49AM THIS IS CLEARLY A VIOLATION OF THE FLORIDA STATUTE ALONG
9:46:52AM WITH BEING ARBITRARY ENFORCEMENT OF THE CODE.
9:46:55AM THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
9:47:00AM ACCORDING TO THE RESULTS OF THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST THAT
9:47:02AM I PLACED, CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS PROVIDED NO TRAINING TO
9:47:08AM OFFICERS TO COMPLY WITH THE FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPING
9:47:12AM STATUTE.
9:47:13AM THE CITY WILL KILL THE OASIS I MANAGED TO CREATE, THE NEARLY
9:47:17AM ALL NATIVE LANDSCAPE THAT WOULD OTHERWISE SURVIVE AND

9:47:20AM CONTINUE TO SUPPORT POLLINATORS AND BIRDS WHOSE POPULATIONS
9:47:23AM ARE DECLINING.
9:47:25AM THIS IS EMBARRASSINGLY EVIL.
9:47:27AM PLEASE HELP.
9:47:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:47:33AM YES, SIR.
9:47:36AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:47:37AM GOOD MORNING.
9:47:39AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:47:40AM MY NAME IS EARNEST LOCKLEY JUNIOR.
9:47:44AM I LIVE ON CLIFTON STREET IN TAMPA.
9:47:46AM I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA.
9:47:48AM MY FATHER WAS BORN AND RAISED IN TAMPA.
9:47:51AM I WAS BORN ON CYPRESS IN WEST TAMPA AND RAISED IN EAST
9:47:56AM TAMPA.
9:47:58AM I'M A VETERAN OF THE AIR FORCE, UNITED STATES AIR FORCE.
9:48:04AM I SERVED IN THE VIETNAM WAR ALONG WITH MY FAMILY.
9:48:14AM GAVE A LOT TO THE COUNTRY THROUGH PARTICIPATION IN THE
9:48:21AM SERVICE AND ARMY.
9:48:21AM MY GRANDFATHER AT THE AGE OF 42 WAS DRAFTED AND SERVED IN
9:48:27AM THE WORLD WAR II SITUATION.
9:48:29AM MY UNCLE, JOSEPH LOCKLEY JUNIOR, WAS KILLED IN WORLD WAR II.
9:48:34AM IN 1942, MY UNCLE EMANUEL LOCKLEY WAS SHOT AND WOUNDED AND
9:48:40AM MISSING IN ACTION IN WORLD WAR II.
9:48:42AM MY FATHER SERVED AT THE END OF WORLD WAR II.

9:48:47AM AT ANY RATE, I AM A PARTICIPANT OF THE GOVERNMENT OF THE
9:48:52AM UNITED STATES.
9:48:53AM I RETIRED FROM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:48:57AM I WORK WITH THE ROAD AND STREET DEPARTMENT.
9:48:59AM I WORK WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
9:49:01AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M A LITTLE APPALLED.
9:49:06AM MY CONCERN IS MY OBSERVATION OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN THE
9:49:12AM BLACK COMMUNITY.
9:49:14AM I REMEMBER THE OLDER DAYS.
9:49:18AM I'M 70 YEARS OLD, SO I REMEMBER THE PROJECTS AND ALL THAT
9:49:21AM STUFF.
9:49:23AM I FEEL GOOD ABOUT SOME OF THE NEW THINGS THAT'S BEEN DONE IN
9:49:27AM OUR COMMUNITY, HELPING PEOPLE TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
9:49:32AM BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT TO ME IN MY OBSERVATION IT'S NOT
9:49:37AM GOOD ENOUGH.
9:49:37AM THE PEOPLE ARE NOT MAKING ENOUGH MONEY TO SURVIVE.
9:49:44AM EVERY TIME I LOOK AROUND, SOMEBODY GOT TO GET A SECOND JOB
9:49:49AM OR A THIRD JOB JUST TO SURVIVE, PAY RENT.
9:49:52AM EVERYTHING WENT UP WHEN THE $15 AN HOUR CAME IN.
9:49:56AM AND SO IN OUR COMMUNITY, IT'S STILL A BIG STRUGGLE
9:50:01AM ECONOMICALLY.
9:50:03AM AND THE OTHER OBSERVATION THAT I'M TIRED OF SEEING IS THAT
9:50:08AM THE BLACK COMMUNITY ALWAYS HAS TO BE LAST WHEN IT COMES DOWN
9:50:12AM TO IMPROVEMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:50:14AM I'M TIRED OF DRIVING MY TRUCK, GETTING BEAT UP ON MY STREETS

9:50:21AM WITH POTHOLES AND PATCHES THAT LOOK LIKE MY HAIR.
9:50:27AM I'M JUST SAYING, I'M TIRED OF SEEING FINANCES GO TO THE
9:50:33AM RIVERWALK.
9:50:34AM I'M ABOUT READY TO START WALKING ON WATER LIKE JESUS,
9:50:37AM BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF SEEING MONEY GOING TO THE RIVERWALK
9:50:41AM WHEN MY STREETS WHERE MY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PAYING TAXES FOR
9:50:47AM 30, 40, 60, 70 YEARS.
9:50:49AM I KNOW I'VE BEEN HERE.
9:50:51AM MY FAMILY BEEN HERE.
9:50:52AM I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M NOT TRYING TO BE HOSTILE AGAINST
9:50:56AM NOBODY.
9:50:56AM I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO DO A BETTER JOB IN OUR COMMUNITY.
9:50:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
9:51:00AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:51:00AM YES, MA'AM.
9:51:02AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:51:06AM >> HELLO.
9:51:07AM GOOD MORNING.
9:51:07AM MY NAME IS HAILEY FRANKLIN.
9:51:10AM I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME, BUT I DID
9:51:13AM JUST WANT TO BE HERE TODAY AND INTRODUCE MYSELF.
9:51:15AM I WAS ACTUALLY JUST CROWNED MS. GULF COAST, SO I WILL BE
9:51:20AM REPRESENTING TAMPA, WHICH IS WHERE I RESIDE AND THE REGION
9:51:22AM AND FLORIDA AS A WHOLE AT NATIONALS IN JULY.
9:51:27AM WE WILL BE COMPETING, ALL THE STATES AND THE REGIONS WILL BE

9:51:30AM COMPETING AS A WHOLE AND I'M HONORED TO REPRESENT TAMPA.
9:51:33AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME REPRESENT THIS
9:51:36AM BEAUTIFUL CITY.
9:51:37AM AND I'M ACTUALLY FROM KENTUCKY.
9:51:40AM SO I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS THE YOUNGEST ELECTED OFFICIAL IN
9:51:43AM KENTUCKY WHEN I SERVED ON CITY COUNCIL.
9:51:45AM SO I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING PUBLIC SERVANTS.
9:51:49AM I KNOW HOW HARD IT CAN BE AT TIMES.
9:51:51AM BUT THANK YOU.
9:51:52AM IF YOU KNOW ANY ORGANIZATIONS THAT NEED AN EXTRA HAND OR
9:51:56AM WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA ADVERTISEMENT, GET WITH ME
9:52:02AM AND I WOULD LOVE TO HELP IF IT BENEFITS THE CITY IN ANY WAY,
9:52:07AM I WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF THAT.
9:52:08AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:52:09AM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AGAINST THE RULES, BUT CAN I GET A
9:52:12AM PICTURE?
9:52:12AM WITH EVERYBODY IN THE BACKGROUND JUST UP HERE AT THE FRONT?
9:52:17AM I CALLED AND SAID THAT I COULD TRY IT.
9:52:22AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT WOULD UNFORTUNATELY SET A VERY DIFFICULT
9:52:26AM PRECEDENT TO AVOID IN THE FUTURE.
9:52:28AM OUR APOLOGIES.
9:52:30AM THANK YOU.
9:52:30AM >> OKAY.
9:52:31AM NO WORRIES.
9:52:32AM THANK YOU, GUYS.

9:52:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MS. COPELAND MILLER.
9:52:38AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:52:40AM GOOD MORNING.
9:52:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:52:43AM MY NAME IS NOREEN COPELAND MILLER, A RESIDENT OF EAST TAMPA.
9:52:50AM AS I LISTEN TO SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS IN THE AUDIENCE TALKING
9:52:53AM ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY, I HAD TO COME UP AND
9:52:59AM SPEAK TO THIS BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT YOU GUYS WORK HARD,
9:53:02AM MAJORITY OF YOU HERE 4:00 IN THE MORNING, CERTAINLY NOT
9:53:06AM SOMETHING THAT I KNOW YOU TAKE PLEASURE IN.
9:53:08AM DOING THE WORK OF THE CITY.
9:53:10AM BUT PLEASE REMEMBER EAST TAMPA AS YOU DO THAT.
9:53:13AM PLEASE REMEMBER HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
9:53:15AM I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THIS, I KNOW THAT IT'S BLACK HISTORY
9:53:22AM MONTH, AND IT IS A LOT OF GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS HAPPENING IN
9:53:25AM THE CITY BY BLACK INDIVIDUALS AS MYSELF.
9:53:29AM SO AS I STAND HERE, I WAS REFLECTING BACK ON LAST WEEK, AND
9:53:35AM I CAN ONLY SAY THIS, WE HAVE NO -- WE COME DOWN HERE, NOT
9:53:40AM THAT WE WANT TO SHOW UP.
9:53:43AM WE COME DOWN HERE BECAUSE WE ARE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT THE
9:53:46AM PLIGHT OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:53:48AM I DON'T HAVE A BLACK CARD.
9:53:50AM I DON'T NEED ONE BECAUSE THE COLOR OF MY SKIN SPEAKS FOR ME,
9:53:53AM BUT WE HAVE NO PLACE I DON'T THINK UP THERE TO BE MAKING
9:53:57AM JOKES WHEN IT COMES TO -- THAT CAN BE TAKEN IN A RACIAL

9:54:01AM OVERTONE IS WHAT I HEARD.
9:54:02AM I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY DISRESPECTFUL TO THE BLACK FOLKS IN
9:54:05AM THIS CITY THAT WORK SO HARD TO MAKE THE CITY OF TAMPA THE
9:54:10AM PARADISE THAT WE SAY IT IS.
9:54:12AM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE JOKES AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, I
9:54:15AM THINK YOU MIGHT WANT TO GO TO THE IMPROV IN YBOR BECAUSE
9:54:19AM THEY DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF VENUE, BUT THIS IS NO PLACE FOR
9:54:21AM IT HERE.
9:54:22AM SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HAVE A GREAT MORNING.
9:54:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
9:54:25AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:54:25AM YES, SIR.
9:54:28AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:54:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
9:54:31AM STEVE MICHELINI.
9:54:33AM HERE REPRESENTING 717 PARKING ON ITEM NUMBER 61 ON YOUR
9:54:36AM AGENDA.
9:54:37AM WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF AS WELL AS SOME OF YOU
9:54:42AM COUNCIL MEMBERS REGARDING THE IMPORTANCE OF COMPLETING THE
9:54:46AM SAFETY STUDY BEING CONDUCTED BY THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:54:50AM AND YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF E-MAILS SUGGESTING THAT EVERYTHING
9:54:54AM IS OUT OF CONTROL IN YBOR CITY REGARDING PARKING LOTS.
9:54:57AM THE ISSUES DON'T BEGIN OR END WITH THE PARKING LOTS.
9:55:00AM IT'S AN AREA-WIDE PROBLEM.
9:55:02AM YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DELIBERATING ON HOW TO ADDRESS THAT.

9:55:06AM I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO TAKE ANY ACTION UNTIL THAT
9:55:09AM STUDY IS COMPLETED SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO GET
9:55:12AM CONTROL OVER THE SAFETY ISSUES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH YBOR
9:55:15AM CITY.
9:55:15AM IT'S NOT THE PROBLEM OF PARKING LOTS; IT IS AN AREA PROBLEM.
9:55:20AM WE'VE TALKED ABOUT USING VARIOUS FUNDS TO TRY TO ASSIST WITH
9:55:25AM SAFETY AND ACTION PROGRAMS, BUT NONE OF THAT CAN HAPPEN
9:55:28AM UNTIL YOU HAVE THE POLICE REPORT FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
9:55:32AM AND EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO ANALYZE THAT AND FIGURE OUT
9:55:35AM WHAT THE BEST DIRECTION IS TO GO IN.
9:55:38AM IT IS A COMPLICATED AND MULTIFACETED ISSUE.
9:55:41AM THE STAFF HAS ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT THE PARKING LOTS THERE
9:55:45AM ARE EITHER IN COMPLIANCE OR IN THE PROCESS OF BECOMING IN
9:55:47AM COMPLIANCE.
9:55:48AM AND IT WOULD BE PREMATURE TO TAKE ANY ACTION AT THIS POINT
9:55:51AM UNTIL THOSE STUDIES ARE COMPLETED AND WE HAVE A CHANCE TO
9:55:54AM LOOK AT IT TO SEE HOW BEST TO MOVE FORWARD.
9:55:57AM I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
9:55:58AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:55:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:55:59AM BISHOP PATTY, ARE YOU NEXT?
9:56:03AM NO?
9:56:04AM ALL RIGHT.
9:56:05AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
9:56:06AM GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

9:56:15AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:56:17AM I'M BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY, ALSO THE HOST OF WHAT'S REALLY
9:56:21AM HAPPENING.
9:56:22AM ON LAST THURSDAY, ONE OF THE COUNCILMEN SAID THAT HE WAS
9:56:26AM GOING TO PLAY HIS GAY CARD DURING A PRESENTATION OF SOME
9:56:30AM SIGNS.
9:56:31AM THEN HE TURNED TO THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COUNCILWOMAN AND
9:56:34AM SAID, OH, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, I'M KILLING YOU, YOU'VE
9:56:37AM BEEN USING YOUR BLACK CARD.
9:56:39AM THEN HE TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO CALL WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING
9:56:43AM ON THIS PAST SATURDAY TO SAY THAT IT WAS A JOKE.
9:56:46AM WELL, THE FOLKS HERE, WE CAME TO TELL YOU IT WAS NO LAUGHING
9:56:50AM MATTER.
9:56:50AM IT WAS RACIST.
9:56:52AM YOUR SEXUALITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOVERNMENT,
9:56:58AM REPRESENTING THE GOVERNMENT.
9:56:59AM WE DO NOT APPRECIATE THOSE TYPE OF JOKES.
9:57:02AM YOU READ A LITANY OF THINGS THAT WE THE SPEAKERS CAN AND
9:57:06AM CANNOT SAY, BUT YOU ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHATEVER
9:57:09AM YOU WANT TO SAY TO AFRICAN AMERICANS IN THIS CITY.
9:57:12AM WE'RE HERE TO SAY IN 2024, YOU WILL RESPECT OUR BLACKNESS.
9:57:18AM WE DO NOT APPRECIATE WHAT TOOK PLACE.
9:57:21AM WHAT WAS REALLY SAD NO ONE HIT THE GAVEL AND TOLD HIM HE WAS
9:57:24AM OUT OF ORDER.
9:57:25AM THIS IS THE SAME MAN THAT WHEN HE SAT ON THE CIVIL SERVICE

9:57:29AM BOARD AND WE HAD AN AFRICAN AMERICAN POLICE OFFICER FIRED
9:57:33AM FROM HIS JOB AND THE ONLY WAY THAT HE REINSTATED HIM WAS TO
9:57:37AM TAKE HIS BACK PAY, $40,000 CAME OUT OF THAT MAN'S POCKET,
9:57:41AM HURTING HIS CHILDREN WHERE THEY COULD NOT EAT.
9:57:44AM SO WE DON'T SEE YOU AS A JOKESTER.
9:57:46AM WE SEE YOU AS A RACIST COUNCILMAN WHO IS SITTING UP THERE IN
9:57:50AM THIS SEAT SUPPOSEDLY REPRESENTING THE WHOLE CITY.
9:57:53AM SO WHAT WE CAME, MR. ALAN CLENDENIN, IS TO ASK YOU TO GIVE
9:57:57AM US -- NOT ASK, BUT DEMAND AN APOLOGY.
9:58:02AM AND, YES, I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID.
9:58:04AM YOU CAN'T CALL, BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET CONFUSED THAT
9:58:08AM THE OTHER COUNCILMAN SAID IT.
9:58:10AM SO IT WAS WARRANTED THAT WE CALL HIS NAME BECAUSE NOBODY
9:58:14AM ELSE SHOULD BE CONFUSED AND PEOPLE WONDERING WHO SAID IT.
9:58:17AM IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT THINGS IN ORDER, YOU WANT TO HAMMER
9:58:20AM THE GAVEL, THEN YOU PUT HIM IN CHECK AND TELL HIM THAT THIS
9:58:23AM WOULD NOT BE TOLERATED BY A CITY COUNCILMAN WHO IS TAKING
9:58:28AM OUR TAX DOLLARS AND THEN BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO THE BLACK
9:58:33AM COMMUNITY.
9:58:34AM AS YOU LOOK AROUND, WE HAVE CLERGY.
9:58:36AM THESE ARE SUPERVOTERS WHO ARE STANDING TALL LETTING YOU KNOW
9:58:40AM THAT WE DO NOT FIND THOSE TYPE OF COMMENTS COMICAL BECAUSE
9:58:44AM WE AS AFRICAN AMERICANS, WE GOING THROUGH A LOT, FROM
9:58:48AM SLAVERY UP UNTIL NOW.
9:58:50AM AND WE STILL NOT BEING RESPECTED.

9:58:52AM SO WE CAME DOWN HERE TODAY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WILL NOT
9:58:57AM TOLERATE THIS, NOT JUST FROM HIM BUT FROM ANY COUNCIL
9:59:03AM PERSON.
9:59:04AM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS IN THE CODE OF ETHICS, BUT IT SHOULD
9:59:06AM BE, WHEN COUNCILMAN ORLANDO GUDES MADE HIS JEWISH REMARK,
9:59:11AM SWIFTLY HE HAD TO APOLOGIZE.
9:59:14AM SWIFTLY HE HAD TO GIVE AN ACCOUNT OF HIMSELF.
9:59:16AM SO WE WANT SWIFT ACTION TODAY.
9:59:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:59:21AM >> YEAH, HE NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU ALL, TOO.
9:59:26AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:59:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:59:27AM MR. SHELBY.
9:59:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY.
9:59:30AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:59:31AM >> WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER.
9:59:32AM WE HAVE PASTOR --
9:59:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU CAN, FORGIVE ME, BUT IF PEOPLE DO
9:59:40AM WISH TO SPEAK, IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME UP ONE AT A TIME AND
9:59:45AM STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO THREE MINUTES.
9:59:48AM YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE IT, IF YOU DON'T WANT THE ENTIRE THREE
9:59:50AM MINUTES, BUT YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
9:59:52AM I ASK THAT YOU COME UP AND SPEAK NOT AT THE SAME TIME BUT IN
9:59:55AM ORDER AND STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
9:59:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

9:59:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
10:00:01AM >> PASTOR TIMOTHY J. KEMP OF PEACE PROGRESSIVE COMMUNITY
10:00:06AM CHURCH.
10:00:06AM IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE TO HEAR WHAT IS BEING TRANSPIRED ON
10:00:15AM EVERY ISSUE, BUT NOTHING IN LIFE TO ME IS A LAUGHING MATTER.
10:00:19AM AND TO INSULT ANY ONE OF MY SISTERS, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE
10:00:24AM INSULTING MY MOTHER AND EVERY ONE OF MY SISTERS.
10:00:27AM I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER YOUR MORAL FIBER, IF YOU
10:00:33AM HAVE ANY, AND YOU NEED TO GET UP RIGHT NOW AND APOLOGIZE TO
10:00:37AM MS. HENDERSON.
10:00:38AM BECAUSE WHATEVER HAPPENED IN POST-SLAVERY, IT'S A NEW DAY
10:00:44AM AND TIME.
10:00:45AM AND I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT SOMETHING COMING TO LITIGATION,
10:00:50AM I THINK THE ONLY TIME A PERSON WOULD REALLY GET A REALITY
10:00:53AM CHECK IS WHEN THEY WRITE A BILLION DOLLAR CHECK.
10:00:59AM A LOT OF TIMES YOU ARE VIOLATING A PERSON'S CIVIL RIGHTS AND
10:01:02AM HUMAN RIGHTS BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES
10:01:06AM DOESN'T APPLY TO ONE; IT APPLIES TO ALL.
10:01:09AM REGARDLESS OF YOUR PREFERENCE OR YOUR CHOICE, THAT'S YOUR
10:01:13AM BUSINESS.
10:01:13AM AIN'T GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH ME.
10:01:17AM AS FAR AS MS. HENDERSON IS CONCERNED, SHE IS THE
10:01:20AM REPRESENTATIVE OF MY DISTRICT, AND I AM AWARE OF THE FACT
10:01:24AM THAT SHE JUST RECENTLY LOST HER MOTHER.
10:01:27AM THERE SHOULD BE SOME TYPE OF PROFESSIONAL DECORUM AND

10:01:31AM SENSITIVITY TO THE MUTUAL RESPECT OF YOUR COLLEAGUES AND FOR
10:01:36AM ALL OF US WHO ARE COMMUNITY ACTIVISTS AND CITIZENS OF THE
10:01:40AM CITY OF TAMPA, WE PAY -- WE MADE THE VOTE AND WE'RE HERE TO
10:01:45AM SAY COLLECTIVELY DO WHAT'S RIGHT JUST BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT.
10:01:51AM I'M HERE TO SAY PERSONALLY, I'M A GROWN MAN AND I DON'T
10:01:56AM TOLERATE DISRESPECT FROM NOBODY, IN COUNCIL OR OUT OF
10:02:00AM COUNCIL.
10:02:00AM IT WOULD PROBABLY BE WISE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER WHAT YOU SAID,
10:02:04AM WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUDGE A BOOK BY THE
10:02:08AM COVER.
10:02:09AM AND WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW IS WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO BECAUSE
10:02:12AM THERE'S MORE TO ME THAN THE EYES CAN SEE.
10:02:15AM THAT'S NOT JUST ME, THAT'S EVERY ONE OF US STANDING HERE.
10:02:18AM SISTER HENDERSON, GOD BLESS YOU.
10:02:21AM KEEP YOUR FOCUS, MAINTAIN YOUR POISE, AND CONTINUE TO DO A
10:02:25AM TREMENDOUS JOB FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
10:02:27AM THANK YOU.
10:02:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:02:29AM SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:02:33AM >> REVEREND CHARLES COFFEY, SENIOR, TRUTH OF THE WORLD
10:02:35AM MINISTRIES.
10:02:36AM TO THE COUNCIL HERE, I THINK AN APOLOGY SHOULD BE GIVEN.
10:02:44AM WE'RE TRYING TO GO FORWARD.
10:02:47AM AMERICA IS HEADED FOR CIVIL WAR LIKE IT WAS HUNDRED, TWO
10:02:50AM HUNDRED YEARS AGO.

10:02:52AM WE DON'T NEED THAT ANYMORE.
10:02:54AM I'M NOT CALLING NAMES.
10:02:55AM WE SHOULD BE ABOVE THAT.
10:02:58AM 68 YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THIS PLANET, BORN IN PLANT CITY,
10:03:02AM FLORIDA, SOUTH FLORIDA BAPTIST HOSPITAL.
10:03:06AM WE SHOULD BE ABOVE.
10:03:08AM YOU ALL ARE SMART PEOPLE.
10:03:10AM AND THERE ARE SOME SMART PEOPLE GOT THIS IN A MESS.
10:03:15AM I AIN'T TALKING REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT.
10:03:17AM I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT THAT FOOLISHNESS.
10:03:22AM SURE AIN'T GOT BLACK FOLK NOWHERE.
10:03:25AM WE ARE IN THE SAME CONDITION.
10:03:27AM WE'RE TIRED NOW.
10:03:28AM OUR BACKS ARE AGAINST THE WALL.
10:03:30AM WE AIN'T GOT NOWHERE TO GO.
10:03:31AM WE AIN'T GOT NOWHERE TO GO AND AIN'T RUNNING.
10:03:35AM THAT'S RIGHT.
10:03:36AM WE MAY HAVE TO DIE AND SPILL OUR BLOOD IN THESE STREETS BUT
10:03:39AM WE AIN'T GOING NOWHERE.
10:03:41AM PLEASE APOLOGIZE.
10:03:42AM LET'S GET THIS THING OVER AND WE CAN START AGAIN.
10:03:44AM IF JESUS WALKED THROUGH THAT DOOR, HE WOULD DO THE SAME
10:03:48AM THING.
10:03:48AM HE WOULD GET US TO START AGAIN.
10:03:51AM THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

10:03:52AM WE PLAYING WITH DYNAMITE NOW.
10:03:55AM WE GOT SOME SUFFERING BLACK FOLKS OUT THERE AND I'M SURE
10:03:59AM SUFFERING WHITE FOLKS, JEWISH FOLKS, MEXICAN FOLKS AND ALL.
10:04:03AM THAT'S RIGHT.
10:04:03AM I'M TALKING BLACK PEOPLE TODAY BECAUSE I'M BLACK.
10:04:06AM THIS SHOULD NOT GO ON FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER ON THIS BOARD OR
10:04:11AM WHEREVER.
10:04:12AM THIS SHOULD NOT GO ON.
10:04:14AM I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING, THERE IS A GUARD OF ABRAHAM THAT'S
10:04:18AM LOOKING DOWN UPON THIS COUNCIL.
10:04:19AM DO WHAT IS RIGHT.
10:04:20AM I'M NOT LOOKING FOR JUSTICE FOR YOU, BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAY
10:04:24AM GOD IS THE ONLY MAN THAT CAN GIVE JUSTICE.
10:04:26AM I AIN'T LOOKING FOR NO JUSTICE FOR MAN NO MORE.
10:04:31AM IF HE AIN'T DONE IT IN 400 YEARS, HE AIN'T GOING TO DO IT.
10:04:35AM BUT I'M LOOKING FOR YOU ALL THAT'S GOT SOME GOD IN YOU.
10:04:41AM I SOME OF YOU GO TO FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH.
10:04:43AM THE PRIEST TALK ABOUT THE SAME GOD TALK ABOUT.
10:04:47AM YOU OUGHT TO TELL HIM TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
10:04:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
10:04:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT ALL YOU ALL
10:04:54AM CAME DOWN TODAY.
10:04:55AM ONE, I WANT TO SAY THAT I HOPE YOU GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE
10:05:00AM RECORDING OF THE MEETING, THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE NOT DONE IT
10:05:04AM YET.

10:05:05AM WHAT I ACTUAL SAID AND THE LIGHT IN HOW IT WAS SAID.
10:05:11AM I'LL START OFF BY SAYING, MR. COFFEY, I'LL GIVE YOU YOUR
10:05:17AM APOLOGY.
10:05:18AM ANYTHING THAT I SAY REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS, IT IS NEVER MY
10:05:21AM INTENTION ON ANY DAY, AFTERNOON, OR NIGHT TO MAKE ANYBODY'S
10:05:26AM LIFE ANY MORE DIFFICULT THAN IT ALREADY IS.
10:05:29AM WE LIVE IN A VERY DIFFICULT WORLD.
10:05:30AM I KNOW THE FOLKS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY HAVE HAD MORE
10:05:34AM HARDSHIP AND HAVE HAD TO OVERCOME MORE OBSTACLES THAN ANY
10:05:39AM HUMAN BEING SHOULD HAVE TO OVERCOME.
10:05:41AM I NEVER WANT TO MAKE ANYBODY'S LIFE MORE DIFFICULT THAN IT
10:05:45AM ALREADY IS.
10:05:46AM I TRY TO LIVE MY LIFE BY AN EXAMPLE.
10:05:48AM WHEN I APPROACH SOMEONE, A CASHIER AT PUBLIX OR ANYBODY THAT
10:05:51AM I DEAL WITH, GENERALLY I TRY TO APPROACH IT THAT I DON'T
10:05:55AM KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DEALING WITH IN THEIR LIFE.
10:05:57AM I DON'T KNOW IF THEY LOST A LOVED ONE IN THEIR LIFE AS
10:06:01AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON RECENTLY DID.
10:06:02AM I DO NOT WANT TO BE THE PERSON THAT MAKES THEIR LIFE ANY
10:06:04AM MORE DIFFICULT THAN WHAT IT ALREADY IS.
10:06:06AM WHAT I AM, I AM KIND OF WHO I AM.
10:06:08AM I AM KIND OF A JOKESTER.
10:06:10AM I TRY TO KEEP LEVITY TO THINGS.
10:06:13AM A LOT OF TIMES IF YOU WATCH CITY COUNCIL, SOMETIMES THE
10:06:15AM SPARKS FLY UP HERE AND THE TENSIONS GET GREAT.

10:06:19AM I STARTED MY CAREER AS A JUNGLE CRUISE SKIPPER AT DISNEY
10:06:23AM WORLD.
10:06:23AM I STARTED OFF AS A TEENAGER KIND OF AS A JOKESTER.
10:06:26AM EVERY ANGLE OF MY LIFE I TRY TO KEEP LEVITY.
10:06:31AM EVERYTHING I DO, I TRY TO KEEP LEVITY IN LIFE.
10:06:34AM MAYBE WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU RUN THE RISK OF
10:06:37AM OFFENDING PEOPLE.
10:06:38AM FOR THAT, I TRULY APOLOGIZE BECAUSE THAT IS NOT MY
10:06:41AM INTENTION.
10:06:41AM MY INTENTION IS NEVER TO HURT SOMEONE'S FEELINGS.
10:06:43AM IT'S NEVER TO MAKE SOMEONE'S LIFE MORE DIFFICULT.
10:06:46AM WILL I MAKE MORE MISTAKES?
10:06:49AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:06:50AM THOSE OF YOU CHILDREN OF GOD, GO TO CHURCH OR PREACH AT A
10:06:53AM CHURCH, YOU KNOW WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES.
10:06:56AM NONE OF US ARE PERFECT.
10:06:57AM I WILL MAKE MORE MISTAKES.
10:07:00AM I GUARANTEE YOU BECAUSE THE SUN WILL COME UP AND THE SUN
10:07:03AM WILL RISE AND SURELY ENOUGH I WILL MAKE ANOTHER MISTAKE
10:07:07AM WHERE I WILL PROBABLY HURT SOMEBODY ELSE'S FEELINGS AND I
10:07:10AM WILL BE WILLING TO APOLOGIZE FOR THAT IN THE FUTURE.
10:07:12AM BUT IT IS NOT MY INTENTION.
10:07:14AM I BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND I ARE GOOD FRIENDS.
10:07:17AM WE HAVE A JOVIAL RELATIONSHIP.
10:07:20AM WE KID EACH OTHER BACK AND FORTH ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS.

10:07:25AM WE JOKE ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS.
10:07:28AM I DON'T BELIEVE THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, BECAUSE WE
10:07:30AM TALKED ABOUT IT SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, I THINK SHE'S OKAY WITH
10:07:33AM THAT.
10:07:33AM BUT THAT'S BECAUSE HER AND I KNOW EACH OTHER.
10:07:36AM I KNOW YOU ALL DON'T KNOW ME.
10:07:39AM ANYWAY, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHOSE FEELINGS WERE HURT, I
10:07:42AM APOLOGIZE.
10:07:42AM I APPRECIATE YOU COMING DOWN HERE TODAY AND I HOPE YOU HAVE
10:07:45AM A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
10:07:48AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR TOM JONES, SENIOR PASTOR AT HEAVEN
10:07:52AM DESTINY CHURCH.
10:07:54AM I SIMPLY WILL READ A STATEMENT THAT WAS DRAFTED BY THE
10:07:57AM MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH CONCERNING THIS ISSUE.
10:07:59AM I THINK WE ALL CAN ADMIT THAT THERE ARE SOME SERIOUS
10:08:04AM PROBLEMS IN THIS CITY THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND SOLVED.
10:08:08AM THIS IS NO TIME TO BE MAKING JOKES OF ANY KIND DURING A
10:08:13AM BUSINESS MEETING.
10:08:14AM I AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY WAS OFFENDED BY THE COMMENTS
10:08:17AM THAT WERE MADE BY A COUNCIL MEMBER CONCERNING SEXUAL
10:08:22AM PREFERENCE AND RACE WHEN MAKING A DECISION ABOUT THE
10:08:24AM COMMUNITY.
10:08:25AM I HOPE YOU WILL SHOW YOUR TRUE COLORS AND CHARACTER BY
10:08:29AM GIVING THIS COMMUNITY AN APOLOGY FOR USING CITY TIME TO TELL
10:08:34AM JOKES.

10:08:35AM THERE ARE SERIOUS TIMES IN THIS CITY THAT DESERVE SERIOUS
10:08:39AM MEN AND WOMEN TO GET THE JOB DONE.
10:08:41AM YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS ISSUE WAS NOT ONLY A BAD JOKE, IT WAS
10:08:48AM A JOKE WHERE NO ONE IS LAUGHING.
10:08:50AM SO MY COMMENT TO YOU IS, NO ONE IS LAUGHING, AND WE ARE BUSY
10:08:56AM TRYING TO FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DECENT JOBS.
10:09:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:09:03AM WE HAD A COUPLE OF REGISTERED SPEAKERS THAT WERE NOT ABLE TO
10:09:23AM LOG IN, BUT THEY HAVE LOGGED IN.
10:09:24AM I BELIEVE THERE ARE THREE, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:09:26AM SEVEN ARE LOGGED IN.
10:09:29AM IS IT CHRIS CURRY WHO WE BEGIN WITH?
10:09:31AM BEFORE WE BEGIN, YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:09:50AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:09:51AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:09:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:09:52AM ALL RIGHT.
10:09:57AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
10:09:57AM ENOUGH!
10:10:01AM ENOUGH!
10:10:01AM MA'AM.
10:10:03AM YOU ARE BOTH OUT OF ORDER.
10:10:05AM STOP.
10:10:07AM STOP OR YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER AND YOU ARE OUT.
10:10:09AM EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK.

10:10:11AM YES, MA'AM.
10:10:14AM ALL RIGHT.
10:10:14AM ENOUGH.
10:10:14AM MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:10:17AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:10:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:10:20AM >> MY NAME IS SHERNA BLAIR RICH.
10:10:23AM I AM A RESIDENT OF TAMPA FLORIDA, NATIVE, A FLORIDIAN, WHERE
10:10:28AM MOST PEOPLE TODAY IN TAMPA ARE TRANSPLANTS.
10:10:32AM BASICALLY I JUST CAME UP HERE TODAY TO ADDRESS
10:10:35AM MR. CLENDENIN.
10:10:37AM ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU JUST PROVIDED HERE TODAY IN
10:10:41AM YOUR LENGTHY ESPOUSAL IS INFURIATING.
10:10:52AM IT IS TRULY INFURIATING TO THE POINT WHERE MOST OF US IN
10:10:57AM HERE TODAY DO ASCRIBE TO A PARTICULAR GOD THAT WE SERVE.
10:11:05AM MOST OF US HAVE SOMETHING INSIDE OF US THAT PERHAPS YOU DO
10:11:10AM NOT, TO SAY THAT I AM A MAN AND THAT THERE WILL BE OTHER
10:11:15AM MISTAKES THAT I WILL MAKE, CHECK YOURSELF, SIR.
10:11:19AM CHECK WHAT'S INSIDE OF YOU.
10:11:22AM CHECK WHAT'S INSIDE OF YOUR HEART.
10:11:25AM BECAUSE EVERYONE THAT CAME UP HERE TODAY, THIS IS NOT
10:11:27AM SOMETHING THAT I DO.
10:11:30AM I'M A WRITER FOR ONE OF THE BIGGEST NEWSPAPERS IN THIS
10:11:37AM STATE, THE FLORIDA SENTINEL BULLETIN.
10:11:40AM MY POWER IS MY.

10:11:46AM SIR, PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT YOU HAVE STEPPED ON THE WRONG
10:11:49AM TOES TODAY.
10:11:50AM WE HAVE THE CLIP, AND IF YOU WANT US TO GO BACK, I CAN QUOTE
10:11:54AM EVERY WORD, SIR.
10:11:55AM YOU OWE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AN APOLOGY, FOR THE RECORD,
10:12:00AM SIR.
10:12:01AM DO THE RIGHT THING.
10:12:02AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:05AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:12:17AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:12:19AM GOOD MORNING.
10:12:19AM FOR THE RECORD, SCHOOLTEACHER FOR 16 YEARS.
10:12:22AM WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGE BUNCH OF PEOPLE TOGETHER LIKE THAT,
10:12:25AM WHEN YOU TEACH MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL, IT'S A HERD.
10:12:28AM IT'S BEEN A HERD -- IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH COLOR OF SKIN.
10:12:32AM IT HAS TO DO WITH A LARGE BUNCH OF PEOPLE BEING TOGETHER AS
10:12:37AM OPPOSED TO BEING IN A SINGLE FILE LINE WHICH IS WHERE
10:12:40AM EVERYBODY WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
10:12:41AM NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN.
10:12:43AM EXCUSE ME, YOU CAN COME UP AND GET IN LINE NEXT.
10:12:46AM NOW, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYBODY'S COLOR OF THEIR
10:12:50AM SKIN.
10:12:50AM I MADE A STATEMENT BECAUSE THERE WAS CONFUSION.
10:12:56AM >> A GROUP.

10:12:57AM NOT A HERD.
10:13:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHOULD WE TAKE A RECESS, MR. SHELBY?
10:13:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE AT THIS TIME?
10:13:07AM >> I'D LIKE TO HAVE MY TIME TO SPEAK.
10:13:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE RULES AGAIN?
10:13:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES ANYBODY FEEL THE NEED FOR THAT?
10:13:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I DON'T FEEL THE NEED FOR THAT.
10:13:19AM YOU HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
10:13:21AM IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE SILENCE IN THE CROWD, EVERYBODY WILL
10:13:23AM HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
10:13:24AM >> THANK YOU.
10:13:24AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:13:25AM GOOD MORNING.
10:13:25AM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE INCREASE IN PAY FOR CITY COUNCIL.
10:13:31AM I'D LIKE TO START, I HANDED YOU GUYS A COPY OF THE CHARTER.
10:13:35AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP, HE VOTED
10:13:39AM AGAINST IT AND HE SENT A MEMO TO THE BUDGET ADVISORY
10:13:42AM COMMITTEE AND SAID I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU DO
10:13:48AM NOT -- OR YOU NOT SUPPORT ANY PROPOSED NON-INFLATION
10:13:53AM ADJUSTED INCREASE.
10:13:54AM THE CURRENT SALARY OF CITY COUNCIL, ACCORDING TO THE BUDGET,
10:13:57AM IS $66,000.
10:13:59AM SO THAT MEANS YOU QUALIFY FOR THE 60th, 70th, OR 80th
10:14:04AM PERCENTILE OF THE AMI FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA ACCORDING TO THE
10:14:07AM CURRENT NUMBERS.

10:14:07AM NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WENT BACK BECAUSE I TOOK
10:14:12AM COUNCILMAN VIERA'S INFORMATION AND SAID, WOW, LET ME SEE
10:14:16AM WHAT THIS MEANS, THE CPI.
10:14:19AM WELL, WHEN I TAKE THE $40,000 THAT THEY WERE MAKING
10:14:24AM ACCORDING TO THE RESOLUTION FROM 2005 AND YOU PUT IT IN THE
10:14:29AM CPI CALCULATOR, THE CPI CALCULATOR SAID TO MAKE THE SAME
10:14:32AM MONEY THAT CITY COUNCIL MADE IN 2005 THAT YOU MUST MAKE
10:14:36AM $63,856.
10:14:39AM THE SAME MONEY.
10:14:42AM NOW, EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY PERSON IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THAT
10:14:47AM THIS CITY HAS GROWN BY 80, 90, 100 THOUSAND PEOPLE.
10:14:54AM THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SHOULD BE MAKING.
10:14:58AM YOU ARE MAKING $6,000 A YEAR LESS.
10:15:00AM NOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO SAY I DON'T WANT THE INCREASE, I
10:15:04AM DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT BEFORE THE
10:15:06AM LAST ELECTION, AT LEAST ONE OF YOU WENT AROUND AND SAID,
10:15:10AM WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:15:12AM IF WE RAISE THE SALARY, MORE PEOPLE RUN AGAINST US.
10:15:15AM THAT'S NOT RIGHT EITHER.
10:15:16AM BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE ELECTION STATISTICS, FIRST OF
10:15:20AM ALL, TWO OF YOU GOT SLAUGHTERED ABOUT THIS IN THE MAILERS,
10:15:24AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
10:15:25AM THE ELECTION RESULTS SHOWED THE PAY INCREASE DIDN'T MATTER.
10:15:31AM ROUND ONE OF THE ELECTIONS, 40, 50 -- NNH.
10:15:39AM THIS ONE, THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO VOTED FOR IT.

10:15:41AM THIS ONE WAS SOMEBODY WHO VOTED FOR IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT
10:15:45AM MATTERED.
10:15:46AM AND YOU CAN ALL GO LOOK AT THIS DATA, TOO.
10:15:48AM THIS IS SOMEBODY ELSE WHO VOTED FOR IT.
10:15:50AM THE NUMBERS ARE ALL RIGHT THERE TOGETHER.
10:15:52AM IT DIDN'T MAKE TWO FLIPS HOW YOU VOTED FOR IT BEFORE.
10:15:56AM I WANT A CITY COUNCIL WHO MAKES A DECENT WAGE.
10:16:01AM I WANT A CITY COUNCIL THAT INCLUDES PEOPLE WHO CANNOT WORK
10:16:05AM TWO JOBS.
10:16:06AM I WANT A CITY COUNCIL THAT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY IN THIS
10:16:10AM ROOM.
10:16:11AM I WANT A CITY COUNCIL THAT IS NOT MADE OF PEOPLE WHO ARE
10:16:15AM INDEPENDENTLY WEALTHY.
10:16:17AM AND UNTIL WE GET THIS TO A LIVING WAGE, IT'S NOT EQUITABLE.
10:16:22AM I WANT OUR CITY TO BE REPRESENTED ON THAT COUNCIL, NOT JUST
10:16:27AM FOLKS WHO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY AND NOT JUST FOLKS WHO TAKE
10:16:31AM MONEY FROM DEVELOPERS.
10:16:33AM I WANT EVERYBODY TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR COUNCIL.
10:16:37AM AND IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU.
10:16:38AM IT'S ABOUT THE SEAT YOU SIT IN.
10:16:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:16:41AM MS. LOCKETT, YES, MA'AM.
10:16:43AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:16:45AM >> ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:16:46AM I AM VERY TROUBLED WITH ME SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE, VERY

10:16:57AM TROUBLED.
10:16:58AM YOU KNOW, THE SEAT THAT AN ELECTED OFFICIAL, WHEN YOU'RE
10:17:03AM REPRESENTING SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE, YOU CANNOT LOOK AT
10:17:06AM LIFE THROUGH THAT ONE LENS THAT YOU GREW UP WITH, AND THAT
10:17:09AM YOU WERE EXPOSED TO.
10:17:11AM NOW, IF SOMEBODY SAYS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS IDENTIFIED THIS
10:17:17AM GROUP AS A HERD, THAT OFFENDED SOMEBODY.
10:17:23AM IT'S TAKING YOURSELF A STEP BACK AND JUST LOOKING AT IT
10:17:26AM FIRST AS BEING DEFENSIVE ABOUT IT.
10:17:29AM ALAN, SORRY, BUT YOU, YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY JUST TO
10:17:37AM APOLOGIZE BECAUSE IT OFFENDED ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE,
10:17:41AM REGARDLESS AS TO WHERE YOU COME FROM, HOW YOU ARE, PEOPLE
10:17:44AM DON'T WANT TO KNOW THAT.
10:17:46AM THEY JUST WANT TO HEAR YOU GIVE A SINCERE APOLOGY BECAUSE OF
10:17:52AM HOW THEY FELT WHEN THEY SAW THAT VIDEO OF.
10:17:56AM THEIR PERCEPTION WAS THEIR REALITY, EVEN THOUGH YOUR
10:17:58AM INTERACTION WITH THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER WAS SOMETHING
10:18:01AM ELSE.
10:18:01AM SO WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN THESE SEATS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE
10:18:05AM ABILITY TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND TRY TO GET A GLEAN FROM
10:18:12AM SOMEBODY ELSE'S LENS.
10:18:14AM THIS IS VERY TROUBLING FOR ME.
10:18:16AM IT REALLY WAS.
10:18:17AM AND JUST INTERACTION, AND IN LIFE, I'M NOT WHITE.
10:18:21AM I DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS TO BE WHITE.

10:18:23AM I'M A PROUD BLACK WOMAN.
10:18:24AM BUT WHENEVER WE STAND UP FOR OURSELVES, THEN PEOPLE GET
10:18:30AM DEFENSIVE.
10:18:33AM WHENEVER WE SPEAK LOUDLY, I GET PASSIONATE, PEOPLE GET
10:18:36AM OFFENSIVE.
10:18:38AM AND WE ALWAYS HAVE -- ME AS A WOMAN ALWAYS HAVE TO DEFEND
10:18:41AM MYSELF, RIGHT?
10:18:44AM I USED TO HAVE TO DEFEND MYSELF, BUT THIS IS VERY TROUBLING
10:18:49AM FOR ME.
10:18:50AM JUST THE INTERACTION AND JUST THE RESPONSE.
10:18:54AM WHAT YOU AND THE COUNCILWOMAN HAS BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IN
10:18:58AM REGARDS TO YOUR CONVERSATION, YOUR RELATIONSHIP AND SO
10:18:59AM FORTH, IT WASN'T WHAT THAT WAS ABOUT.
10:19:01AM THE COMMUNITY CAME OUT.
10:19:03AM THEY WERE UPSET ABOUT IT, AND THEY JUST WANTED AN APOLOGY.
10:19:07AM THAT'S IT.
10:19:07AM AND NOT PREPARING THEM FOR SOMETHING ELSE TO HAPPEN.
10:19:17AM ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS AHEAD OF TIME.
10:19:19AM THIS IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR JUST A SINCERE APOLOGY.
10:19:23AM JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHEN BLACK PEOPLE TELL YOU THEY ARE
10:19:26AM OFFENDED BY SOMETHING, JUST TAKE IT IN AND MOVE FROM IT
10:19:30AM BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR LENS AND THAT'S THEIR EXPERIENCE.
10:19:32AM THANK YOU.
10:19:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:34AM YES, MA'AM.

10:19:35AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:19:35AM YES, SIR, MR. DANIELS.
10:19:41AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:19:43AM >> MENTESNOT.
10:19:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OH.
10:19:47AM YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
10:19:56AM >> MENTESNOT.
10:19:57AM UHURU.
10:19:58AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
10:20:00AM WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE THINKING ABOUT OUR
10:20:04AM FREEDOM.
10:20:04AM IT'S NEWS CIRCULATING NOW IN REFERENCE TO A SETTLEMENT
10:20:08AM AGREEMENT FOR SOMEONE WHO WAS WRONGLY INCARCERATED.
10:20:14AM BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, THAT'S REAL HONORABLE.
10:20:19AM SETTLEMENT IS HONORABLE.
10:20:20AM THE SITUATION IS HONORABLE.
10:20:26AM AND THE EXPERIENCE PROBABLY WAS A VERY UNPLEASANT ONE.
10:20:30AM BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE SINCE 1400, AFRICAN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
10:20:41AM EXPERIENCING CONDITIONS WAY MORE TREACHEROUS THAN THAT.
10:20:51AM AND RIGHT HERE IN THIS CITY, THEY SAY THEY HAVE A SITUATION
10:20:58AM BY WHICH THEY ARE GOING TO AT LEAST RECOGNIZE, RECOGNIZE THE
10:21:06AM WRONGDOINGS OF THIS CITY IN REFERENCE TO AFRICAN PEOPLE, THE
10:21:12AM HISTORICAL WRONGDOINGS.
10:21:13AM AND WE CAN'T GET ANY TRACTION ON IT.
10:21:17AM WE NEED TRACTION ON REPARATIONS.

10:21:23AM WE REALLY DO.
10:21:26AM YOU CAN'T KEEP BAMBOOZLING AFRICAN PEOPLE.
10:21:30AM CAN'T KEEP INSULTING US, INSULTING OUR INTELLIGENCE AS IF WE
10:21:35AM NEVER, EVER GOING TO BE EQUAL.
10:21:37AM AS IF WE ARE NEVER GOING TO GET ANY KIND OF EQUITY.
10:21:40AM AS IF WE ARE NEVER GOING TO SEE -- WE HAVE TO PASS ON OUR
10:21:43AM SUFFERING TO THE NEXT GENERATION AND THEY HAVE TO PASS IT ON
10:21:46AM TO THEIR NEXT GENERATION.
10:21:49AM AFRICAN PEOPLE REFUSE TO LIVE UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
10:21:57AM WE CANNOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES SAY WE'VE HAD FROM PERRY
10:22:05AM HARVEY, GWENDOLYN MILLER, REVEREND SCOTT, DIFFERENT
10:22:12AM INDIVIDUALS SEATED, ALLEGEDLY REPRESENTING THE AFRICAN
10:22:19AM COMMUNITY OR DISTRICT 5, WHATSOEVER THEY ARE DOING WITH IT
10:22:23AM NOW.
10:22:23AM AND NONE OF THOSE REPRESENTATIVES HAVE NEVER DONE A SINGLE
10:22:27AM THING, NOTHING FOR THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY.
10:22:32AM NOTHING.
10:22:32AM THE ONLY THING WE'VE SEEN DONE FOR THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY
10:22:38AM WITH AN ATTEMPT IS WITH SISTER CONNIE BURTON AND HER TRYING
10:22:41AM TO PUT FORTH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT CRA.
10:22:43AM OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING.
10:22:45AM EMPTY PROMISES.
10:22:47AM IT'S TIME FOR THAT TO CHANGE.
10:22:49AM AFRICAN PEOPLE WE DON'T WANT TO LIVE BY THAT STANDARD
10:22:53AM ANYMORE.

10:22:53AM AND IN THESE TIMES, YOU HAVE TO ALSO SAY LONG LIVE
10:22:57AM PALESTINE.
10:22:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:22:59AM IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK,
10:23:03AM I'LL GO BACK TO THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS THAT HAD TROUBLE
10:23:06AM LOGGING IN, BUT THEY ARE ON.
10:23:07AM WE'LL BEGIN WITH MR. CHRIS CURRY.
10:23:10AM IS HE ON?
10:23:11AM MR. CURRY, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND STATE YOUR NAME.
10:23:17AM >> HELLO.
10:23:18AM CHRIS CURRY.
10:23:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:23:21AM GO AHEAD.
10:23:22AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:23:23AM APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TODAY.
10:23:26AM I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS ITEM 61.
10:23:29AM MY THOUGHTS ARE THAT THERE ARE MANY PARKING LOTS THAT ARE
10:23:32AM NOT CORRECTLY COMPLIANT AND FOLLOWING CITY CODE IN YBOR
10:23:36AM CITY.
10:23:36AM THE CODE IS NOT ADEQUATELY BEING ENFORCED.
10:23:40AM COUNCIL, I'M ASKING YOU TODAY TO CONSIDER DIRECTING
10:23:42AM RESOURCES AND THE CITY TO ADEQUATELY ENFORCE THE PARKING
10:23:47AM CODE IN YBOR.
10:23:48AM THE CITY HAS MANY LOTS AND PARKING GARAGES THAT OPERATE AND
10:23:52AM DO A GREAT JOB AND THIS SHOULD BE THE STANDARD BY WHICH ALL

10:23:55AM OTHER PARKING IN YBOR CITY SHOULD BE JUDGED BY.
10:23:59AM ADDITIONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO ASK THE LEGAL
10:24:02AM DEPARTMENT FOR A LIST OF ENFORCEMENT OPTIONS THAT ARE
10:24:05AM AVAILABLE TO PREVENT THESE NONCOMPLIANT LOTS FROM CONTINUING
10:24:08AM TO OPERATE.
10:24:10AM RED TAGS, STOP WORK ORDERS, CODE ENFORCEMENT FINES, ORDERS
10:24:13AM OF ABATEMENT, ET CETERA, ARE THINGS THAT IMMEDIATELY COME TO
10:24:16AM MIND.
10:24:17AM I'M NOT PERSONALLY ALLOWED TO BULLDOZE MY HISTORIC HOUSE IN
10:24:20AM YBOR CITY OR TO CUT DOWN GRAND OAK TREES OR TAKE OVER
10:24:23AM ALLEYWAYS.
10:24:25AM I WOULD BE FINED AND ALL THOSE THINGS WOULD BE LEVIED ON ME.
10:24:28AM I'M ASKING THAT YOU LOOK AT THE SAME OPTIONS FOR THE PARKING
10:24:32AM OPERATORS THAT ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE AS WELL.
10:24:34AM THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE FOR ABOUT 20 PLUS YEARS, AND
10:24:38AM IT'S TIME TO START TAKING STEPS TO SUNSET THESE AND GET RID
10:24:42AM OF THEM IN YBOR.
10:24:43AM I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ASK THAT YOU GUYS CONDUCT AN ECONOMIC
10:24:47AM IMPACT STUDY OF ALL SERVICE PARKING LOTS IN THE CITY OF
10:24:50AM TAMPA.
10:24:50AM RECENT ARTICLE SAID ABOUT 30% OF THE LAND DOWNTOWN IS
10:24:53AM SURFACE PARKING LOTS.
10:24:55AM I BELIEVE THESE LOTS ARE DETRIMENTAL TO THE GOALS AND GROWTH
10:24:58AM AND PLANS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:25:00AM THEY ARE COSTLY TO THE CITY IN THE SENSE THAT THEY PAY A

10:25:03AM FRACTION OF THE TAXES THAT DEVELOPED LAND DOES.
10:25:07AM THEY COMPETE WITH CITY PARKING LOTS.
10:25:10AM ONE OF THE FEW REVENUE SOURCES FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA IS
10:25:14AM PARKING IN ADDITION TO PROPERTY TAXES.
10:25:16AM I BELIEVE THEY ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR ADDITIONALLY --
10:25:20AM DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGH SOURCE OF CRIME AND DRAIN ON POLICE
10:25:25AM RESOURCES.
10:25:25AM SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU, COUNCIL, TO ASK YOURSELVES
10:25:28AM HONESTLY HOW PRIVATELY OWNED SURFACE PARKING LOTS PROMOTE
10:25:31AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOW THEY PROMOTE COMMERCIAL AND
10:25:36AM RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND HOW DO THEY INCREASE URBAN
10:25:39AM DENSITY, HOW DO THEY LOWER TAXES OR CRIME OR PEDESTRIAN
10:25:42AM FATALITIES OR IMPROVE LIFE IN ANY WAY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF
10:25:45AM TAMPA OTHER THAN THE OWNERS OF THESE PARKING LOTS.
10:25:48AM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS MORE THAN CAPABLE OF BUILDING AND
10:25:51AM OPERATING PARKING LOTS AND GARAGES IN THE CITY, AND I
10:25:55AM BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THIS NOW.
10:25:58AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:25:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:25:59AM THE NEXT SPEAKER IS ALIS BEECHY.
10:26:03AM MR. RANDOLPH, IF YOU WOULD UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:26:09AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:26:09AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:26:10AM MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:26:20AM >> HELLO.

10:26:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:26:22AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:26:23AM >> I'M SORRY.
10:26:24AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:26:25AM I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
10:26:31AM QUICK FOLLOW-UP.
10:26:34AM THOMPSON WAS THE LADY WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE CRA
10:26:37AM MEETING, HER ROOF HAVING A PROBLEM.
10:26:40AM SHE HAS GOTTEN $5,000.
10:26:44AM PAYMENT, APPLICATION IF THEY DON'T PASS THE APPLICATION --
10:26:50AM SHORT.
10:26:51AM WE'RE HOPING THAT SOMEONE CAN CALL FEMA AND HELP HER OUT.
10:26:54AM TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AN ARTICLE -- THIS IS FROM THE
10:27:01AM BRADY FOUNDATION.
10:27:02AM IT'S CALLED DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT OF GUN VIOLENCE ON BLACK
10:27:08AM AMERICA.
10:27:08AM DESPITE ACCOUNTING FOR 14% OF THE POPULATION -- PERCENT OF
10:27:17AM AFRICAN AMERICANS ARE KILLED THROUGH GUN VIOLENCE.
10:27:20AM BLACK PEOPLE BETWEEN THE AGE OF 18 AND 24 ARE 19 TIMES MORE
10:27:26AM LIKELY TO BE KILLED BY GUN VIOLENCE.
10:27:29AM BLACK MALES UNDER THE AGE OF 18, ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE A
10:27:37AM VICTIM OF GUN VIOLENCE.
10:27:38AM OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, GET THIS, THAT HAS BEEN A 97.6%
10:27:44AM INCREASE IN HOMICIDES AMONG BLACK YOUTH.
10:27:48AM 92% AMONG BLACK YOUTH BETWEEN THE AGES OF 8 TO 18.

10:27:54AM AND 134% RATE AMONG BLACK FEMALES.
10:28:02AM THERE IS HOPE, THOUGH.
10:28:04AM THEY TALKED ABOUT STUDIES THAT WAS DONE IN NEW YORK,
10:28:07AM CHICAGO, PHILLY AND OTHER STATES SO THAT WE CAN REDUCE THE
10:28:13AM PROPENSITY TOWARDS MORE VIOLENCE.
10:28:15AM THEY MENTIONED PHILLY, CHICAGO, THEY MENTIONED CALIFORNIA,
10:28:21AM ALL OF THESE STUDIES SHOW WHAT CAN BE DONE TO CHANGE THE
10:28:23AM NARRATIVE WHEN IT COMES TO VIOLENCE.
10:28:27AM ON THE 30th OF THIS MONTH, WE'RE GOING TO DO A FOLLOW-UP
10:28:33AM WITH WHAT WAS AROUND THE COUNTRY -- WHEN IT COMES TO
10:28:38AM SENSELESS KILLING.
10:28:38AM AN 11-YEAR-OLD WAS SHOT IN TAMPA.
10:28:43AM JUST STANDING ON A STEP.
10:28:45AM THIS VIOLENCE HAS GOTTEN OUT OF ORDER AND UNLESS WE USE THE
10:28:50AM NEW SCHOOL NEXT GENERATION APPROACH, I'LL BE BACK HERE AGAIN
10:28:53AM NEXT YEAR SAYING THE SAME THING.
10:28:55AM THANK YOU.
10:28:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:28:56AM NEXT IS JAMES BORT.
10:29:00AM ED AUSTIN.
10:29:05AM ALL RIGHT, MR. AUSTIN, GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:29:07AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:29:08AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:29:15AM >> YES, HELLO.
10:29:16AM CAN YOU HEAR ME?

10:29:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:29:18AM GO AHEAD.
10:29:19AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:29:20AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:29:21AM MY NAME IS ED AUSTIN.
10:29:22AM AS A RESIDENT OF YBOR CITY, ONE OF THE FEW HISTORIC LANDMARK
10:29:28AM IN FLORIDA, WRITING TO YOU ABOUT PRIVATE PARKING IN YBOR
10:29:32AM CITY.
10:29:33AM I HAVE THREE POINTS.
10:29:35AM NUMBER ONE, THE CURRENT SITUATION, PRIVATE PAID LOTS ARE
10:29:38AM EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT YBOR CITY.
10:29:39AM YOU HAVE ALL SEEN THE PHOTOS.
10:29:44AM THEY ARE NOT MAINTAINED.
10:29:47AM CRIME, TRASH, NOISE, BROKEN FENCES, POOR IF ANY LIGHTING,
10:29:51AM ET CETERA.
10:29:52AM CODE ENFORCEMENT BY THE CITY IS POOR.
10:29:57AM CODE COMPLAINTS ARE RAMPANT.
10:29:59AM THIS WOULD NOT BE TOLERATED IN OTHER CITY NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:30:03AM LOTS ARE A BLIGHT ON THE CITY AND THEY COMPETE WITH
10:30:06AM CITY-OWNED LOTS.
10:30:07AM MY SECOND POINT IS, WHY HAS THIS GONE ON FOR SO LONG?
10:30:11AM THE CITY HAS TAKEN WELL OVER A YEAR TO DETERMINE APPROPRIATE
10:30:14AM STANDARDS.
10:30:15AM WHY?
10:30:15AM THE CITY-OWNED LOTS CURRENTLY HAVE A STRONG STANDARD THAT

10:30:19AM INCLUDES ATTENDANCE, APPROPRIATE LIGHTING, LANDSCAPE,
10:30:21AM ET CETERA.
10:30:22AM WHY CAN'T THOSE CITY STANDARDS BE APPLIED TO PRIVATELY OWNED
10:30:26AM PAID LOTS?
10:30:27AM WHY IS CITY STAFF TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL WHEN THE CITY
10:30:31AM ALREADY USES APPROPRIATE STANDARDS FOR THEMSELVES?
10:30:33AM A CONSISTENT STANDARD COULD BE IMMEDIATELY ENACTED,
10:30:37AM UNDERSTOOD BY ALL, OWNERS AND THOSE WHO USE THE LOTS AND
10:30:41AM WELCOMED BY YBOR RESIDENTS, WORKERS AND VISITORS.
10:30:44AM MY THIRD POINT IS NEEDED NEXT STEPS.
10:30:47AM A RECENTLY RELEASED CRA SURVEY INDICATES THAT RESIDENTS AND
10:30:51AM WORKERS RATE PARKING LOT LIGHTING AND SAFETY AS A HIGH
10:30:55AM PRIORITY.
10:30:56AM MAKE THIS YOUR PRIORITY, TOO.
10:30:58AM LOTS IN YBOR OR A BLIGHT ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
10:31:04AM DISTRICT.
10:31:04AM PRIVATE LOTS COMPETE WITH THE CITY LOTS THAT ARE RARELY AT
10:31:07AM CAPACITY.
10:31:08AM MAKE THEM LIVE BY THE SAME STANDARDS AS CITY-OWNED LOTS.
10:31:13AM IN CLOSING, A SAFE AND WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD BE THE
10:31:16AM HIGH PRIORITY FOR THE CITY WITH SOLUTIONS COMING SOONER
10:31:19AM RATHER THAN LATER.
10:31:21AM PARKING LOTS ARE CLEARLY NOT THE BEST AND HIGHEST USE OF
10:31:24AM LAND IN A CITY THAT CONTINUALLY BEMOANS THE LACK OF
10:31:29AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND A STRAINED BUDGET.

10:31:31AM THIS IS NOT COMPLICATED.
10:31:33AM SIMPLE, UNDERSTANDABLE SOLUTION IS WAITING FOR ACTION.
10:31:36AM PLEASE ADDRESS THIS BLIGHT ON YBOR CITY WITH URGENCY AND
10:31:40AM COMMON SENSE NOW.
10:31:41AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:31:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:31:43AM OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS STEPHANIE HARRISON.
10:31:45AM STEPHANIE HARRISON, IF YOU ARE ON, MA'AM, PLEASE UNMUTE
10:31:50AM YOURSELF.
10:31:50AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:31:51AM STATE YOUR NAME.
10:31:52AM >> THANK YOU.
10:31:53AM STEPHANIE HARRISON HERE.
10:31:55AM I WILL JUST BACK ON WHAT MY NEIGHBOR ED AUSTIN JUST SPOKE
10:32:01AM ABOUT AND KIND OF REMIND, REFRESH, OR MAYBE ENLIGHTEN FOLKS.
10:32:07AM I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN RECENTLY ENLIGHTENED AND REMINDED OF
10:32:12AM HOW LONG THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKING LOTS IN YBOR HAS BEEN
10:32:15AM GOING ON.
10:32:16AM IT'S LITERALLY BEEN DECADES.
10:32:18AM WE HAD A NEIGHBOR LAST NIGHT SEND US A BUNCH OF NEWS
10:32:23AM ARTICLES AND EVEN A YCDC VISION PLAN FROM THE '90s AND THE
10:32:27AM EARLY 2000s THAT POINTED OUT AND POINTED TO PARKING LOTS
10:32:32AM BEING AN ISSUE HERE IN YBOR CITY.
10:32:34AM SO IT'S NOT NEW.
10:32:36AM I THINK, UNFORTUNATELY, AS HUMANS, OUR MEMORIES ARE SHORT.

10:32:42AM JUST A REMINDER ABOUT THAT AND THIS ISSUE THAT'S BEEN GOING
10:32:46AM ON FOR A LONG TIME.
10:32:48AM I ALSO WANTED TO THANK ABBYE FEELEY AND HER TEAM WITH THE
10:32:52AM ZONING DEPARTMENT FOR THE PowerPoint SLIDE THAT YOU GUYS
10:32:55AM WILL HOPEFULLY SEE A LITTLE BIT LATER.
10:32:58AM IT'S CLEAR THAT A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THAT.
10:33:01AM AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD POINTS AND SOME GREAT
10:33:04AM SUGGESTIONS IN THERE FROM ZONING.
10:33:07AM WHAT WE AS RESIDENTS HAVE SEEN TO BE THE WEAK LINK IS REALLY
10:33:12AM JUST CODE ENFORCEMENT, LIKE ED TALKED ABOUT.
10:33:15AM WE'VE SUBMITTED CODE COMPLAINTS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN
10:33:18AM FOR THE SAME HANDFUL OF PROBLEM LOTS ONLY TO SEE THOSE CODE
10:33:23AM COMPLAINTS GO OUT THE WINDOW IN WEIRD WAYS AND IT'S ALSO
10:33:30AM UNCLEAR HOW SOME OF THE PARKING LOTS ARE OPERATING, GIVEN
10:33:34AM THAT THEY NEVER GOT THE REQUIRED APPROVALS TO BEGIN WITH.
10:33:39AM I THINK THERE'S REALLY THREE POINTS.
10:33:42AM NUMBER ONE IS WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ENFORCE THE CODE
10:33:45AM THAT'S ALREADY ON THE BOOKS TODAY.
10:33:48AM TO ME, THAT'S AN EASY SLAM-DUNK.
10:33:51AM NUMBER TWO IS TO MAKE THE ZONING UPDATES THAT ABBYE AND HER
10:33:56AM TEAM ARE SUGGESTING WE MAKE REGARDING SECURITY GUARDS IN THE
10:34:00AM PRIVATE LOTS.
10:34:01AM NUMBER THREE IS THE FUTURE.
10:34:04AM I THINK THAT IT'S TIME THAT WE REMOVE PRINCIPLE USE PARKING
10:34:08AM AS AN ALLOWABLE USE IN YBOR CITY.

10:34:11AM IT WOULD, AS ED SAID, INCREASE REVENUE TO THE CITY BY A HUGE
10:34:15AM -- IN OUR PROPERTY TAXES IN THE DISTRICT AND ALSO PARKING
10:34:19AM REVENUE.
10:34:19AM AND THEN WE JUST NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE REALLY
10:34:23AM HOLDS FOR PARKING GENERALLY.
10:34:25AM -- ALL THESE PARKING LOTS OR ANY AMOUNT OF PARKING IS REALLY
10:34:30AM GOING TO BE NECESSARY IN THE FUTURE AS PEOPLE MOVE AWAY FROM
10:34:33AM EVERYBODY HAVING THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL CARS AND HOPEFULLY
10:34:36AM TOWARD PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND SHARED CAR POOL TYPE
10:34:40AM THINGS.
10:34:40AM THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR TODAY.
10:34:42AM THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK ON THIS FOR THE LAST FEW
10:34:45AM YEARS AND SOME OF YOU FOR THE LAST FEW DECADES.
10:34:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:34:48AM YES, MA'AM.
10:34:50AM THE NEXT SPEAKER, JAY BORT, IS THAT CORRECT?
10:34:53AM HE'S NOT ON.
10:34:54AM SO WE HAVE DAVID BAILEY.
10:34:56AM MR. BAILEY, IF YOU ARE ON, SIR, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND
10:35:00AM STATE YOUR NAME.
10:35:02AM >> HI THERE, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
10:35:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:35:04AM GO AHEAD.
10:35:05AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:35:06AM >> MY NAME IS DAVID BAILEY.

10:35:08AM I LIVE IN HISTORIC YBOR.
10:35:10AM MY COMMENTS ARE ALSO REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 61.
10:35:14AM TO BEGIN WITH, IT'S REALLY HARD NOT TO LAUGH WHEN STEVE
10:35:18AM MICHELINI ASKED YOU TO SLOW DOWN.
10:35:21AM THE CITY LITERALLY COULD NOT BE GOING ANY SLOWER.
10:35:25AM TO IMPLY OR STATE THAT THESE DIRT LOTS ARE IN COMPLIANCE IS
10:35:31AM PATENTLY FALSE.
10:35:33AM AS OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED, FOR OVER 30 YEARS, THE RESIDENTS
10:35:35AM OF YBOR HAVE COME TO YOU PLEADING FOR HELP WITH CRIME,
10:35:40AM VISUAL BLIGHT, ECONOMIC BLIGHT WHEN IT COMES TO THESE
10:35:43AM PRIVATE PARKING LOTS.
10:35:45AM AGAIN, TO REMIND YOU, IN OUR NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
10:35:50AM DISTRICT AND AS STEPHANIE MENTIONED, WE'LL SEND YOU THAT
10:35:54AM 2005 VISION PLAN WHERE THE CITY WAS GIVEN GUIDANCE ON WHAT
10:35:58AM TO DO AND FOR SOME REASON STAFF JUST DID NOT FOLLOW.
10:36:01AM BUT IF YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS, MAYBE
10:36:04AM YOU'LL LISTEN TO YOUR CITY DEPARTMENTS.
10:36:07AM SOME OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS YOU HEARD FROM ARE YOUR PARKING
10:36:10AM DEPARTMENT AND HOW THEY MONITOR CITY LOTS AND THAT'S WITH
10:36:14AM LICENSED SECURITY GUARDS AND THE CITY FOLLOWS THE ZONING
10:36:18AM CODE.
10:36:19AM THEY REGULARLY HAVE -- ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT CHRIS
10:36:22AM MENTIONED IS THAT WE REGULARLY HAVE HUNDREDS OF UNUSED
10:36:26AM PARKING SPACES IN OUR PARKING GARAGES IN YBOR CITY, NOT TO
10:36:31AM MENTION PARKING IN SOUTH YBOR THAT GOES UNUTILIZED BECAUSE

10:36:35AM THERE ARE THESE SURFACE PARKING LOTS, TAKING REVENUE AWAY
10:36:39AM FROM THE CITY.
10:36:40AM ANOTHER DEPARTMENT YOU HEARD FROM IS THE TAMPA POLICE
10:36:42AM DEPARTMENT THAT PROVIDED STATISTICS ON HOW MUCH HIGHER CRIME
10:36:48AM IS IN PRIVATE PARKING LOTS WITHOUT SECURITY GUARDS VERSUS
10:36:52AM CITY OF TAMPA LOTS WITH SECURITY GUARDS.
10:36:55AM WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE VIOLENCE THAT'S BEEN REPORTED IN YBOR.
10:37:01AM TPD HAS HAD TO ADD ADDITIONAL OFFICERS TO MONITOR THESE LOTS
10:37:05AM BECAUSE THEY HAVE KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME THEY ARE THE SOURCE
10:37:08AM OF A LOT OF THESE ISSUES WITH ILLEGAL DRINKING AND DRUG USE,
10:37:13AM CRIME OFTEN ENDS THERE AND BEGINS THERE.
10:37:16AM THERE'S REALLY SERIOUS VIOLENCE THAT HAPPENS.
10:37:19AM MY NEIGHBORS AND I LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ONE OF THESE
10:37:22AM LOTS.
10:37:23AM WHY WOULD YOU SUPPORT POLICIES THAT DILUTE TPD HAVING TO
10:37:27AM MONITOR BAD BUSINESS PRACTICES?
10:37:29AM AN INTERESTING THING THAT ABBYE FEELEY DID WITH THE ZONING
10:37:33AM DEPARTMENT, SHE REACHED OUT TO THE CITY OF ORLANDO TO SEE
10:37:36AM WHAT THEY DO, AND NOT SURPRISING, LICENSED SECURITY GUARDS,
10:37:42AM CLOSING HOURS.
10:37:44AM YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.
10:37:45AM EVERYONE IN YOUR SPHERE OF IMPORTANCE IS TELLING YOU,
10:37:49AM HOUSTON, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
10:37:52AM SO WHAT'S IT GOING TO TAKE FOR US TO TAKE A STEP FORWARD?
10:37:57AM ONE LAST BIT OF HISTORICAL IRONY.

10:38:00AM MANY OF THESE LOTS USED TO BE AFRICAN AMERICAN HOMES THAT
10:38:03AM WERE BULLDOZED IN THE '70s AND '80s IN THE NAME OF
10:38:08AM PROGRESS AND ECONOMIC BLIGHT.
10:38:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:38:11AM >> NOTHING HAS GOTTEN ANY BETTER.
10:38:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:38:13AM ALL RIGHT.
10:38:14AM THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:38:16AM AT THIS TIME, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN -- SIR, ARE YOU
10:38:22AM HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT STANDING AGAINST THE WALL?
10:38:24AM >> NO, SIR.
10:38:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:38:25AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS?
10:38:27AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:38:29AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:38:30AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:38:31AM AYE.
10:38:31AM BEFORE WE GO TO ITEM 43, MS. JOHNS IS HERE.
10:38:38AM ABOUT 49 AND 50 TO WITHDRAW AND CONTINUE.
10:38:45AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: 49 AND 50 ARE THE SAME DEVELOPMENT
10:38:49AM AGREEMENT.
10:38:50AM IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, THIS CAME FOR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING.
10:38:53AM THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WAS CONTINUED DUE TO SOME CHANGES
10:38:57AM THAT USF REQUESTED.
10:39:00AM THOSE CHANGES WERE SUBSTANTIVE AND THUS RESULTED IN THE NEED

10:39:03AM FOR A NEW PUBLIC NOTICE.
10:39:05AM SO IT NEEDS TO GO BACK TO FIRST HEARING.
10:39:08AM SO THAT MADE A SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
10:39:12AM WE JUST NEED TO WITHDRAW ITEM 49 AND THE CITY AND DEVELOPER
10:39:16AM ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE SITE PLAN CHANGES, SO WE NEED
10:39:19AM TO CONTINUE ITEM 50.
10:39:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO WITHDRAW 49?
10:39:22AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:39:23AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:39:25AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:39:25AM AYE.
10:39:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:39:26AM ITEM 50, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO MARCH 7, 2024.
10:39:31AM I WOULD ASSUME AT 10:30 A.M.
10:39:35AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: YES.
10:39:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:39:38AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 50.
10:39:40AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:39:41AM AYE.
10:39:41AM ANY OPPOSED?
10:39:43AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND THE DATE, TIME AND LOCATION.
10:39:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S GOING TO BE MARCH 7, 2024 AT
10:39:47AM 10:30 A.M. -- SORRY, 9:30 A.M. -- NO, SORRY.
10:39:51AM I HAVE ALL THESE PAGES IN MY HAND.
10:39:53AM 10:30 A.M., MARCH 7, 2024, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD,

10:39:57AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, THIRD FLOOR.
10:39:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:40:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNITED STATES.
10:40:01AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:40:01AM ITEM NUMBER 43.
10:40:06AM FIRST, LET ME SAY, THE CEMETERY SOCIETY IS HERE.
10:40:09AM A LOT OF THEIR VERY HARDWORKING VOLUNTEERS.
10:40:13AM SAW AILEEN HENDERSON, NOREEN COPELAND MILLER AND HER TEAM.
10:40:19AM THEY DO AMAZING WORK.
10:40:21AM >> ELAINE LUND, HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF.
10:40:24AM I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING TO DISCUSS THE MEMORIAL
10:40:26AM PARK CEMETERY AND ITS PROPOSED LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
10:40:32AM DESIGNATION.
10:40:33AM WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU THIS MORNING, IF THAT'S
10:40:35AM READY.
10:40:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:40:36AM IT WILL BE RIGHT UP.
10:40:38AM IT'S COMING.
10:41:21AM NO, WRONG ONE.
10:41:22AM WHILE WE WAIT, THEY ARE JUST UPLOADING THE PRESENTATION.
10:41:44AM I MENTIONED THE CEMETERY SOCIETY.
10:41:46AM THEY ARE OUT THERE TIRELESSLY WORKING.
10:41:51AM YOU TELL THE STORY.
10:41:52AM IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT CEMETERY.
10:41:53AM SO GO AHEAD, MA'AM.

10:41:55AM IT'S GOING TO COME UP ON THE SCREEN.
10:41:58AM >>ELAINE LUND: THE MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY IS LOCATED AT 2425
10:42:02AM EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. BOULEVARD.
10:42:06AM THIS IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR
10:42:10AM BOULEVARD AND 22nd STREET.
10:42:12AM IT'S OWNED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:42:14AM AND MAYOR CASTOR SIGNED THE DESIGNATION APPLICATION FOR THE
10:42:19AM LANDMARK DESIGNATION ON JUNE 14th OF THIS YEAR.
10:42:22AM THE PROPERTIES ARE REVIEWED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
10:42:27AM COMMISSION OR THE HPC AT A PUBLIC HEARING TO DETERMINE
10:42:32AM WHETHER THEY MEET THE CRITERIA FOR LOCAL HISTORIC
10:42:34AM DESIGNATION, AND THAT'S FOUND IN SECTION 27-257 OF THE
10:42:38AM CITY'S CODE OF ORDINANCES.
10:42:40AM LOCAL HISTORIC DESIGNATION PRESERVES LANDMARKS IN DISTRICTS.
10:42:44AM PROVIDES FOR REVIEW OF ALTERATIONS OF DESIGNATED PROPERTIES,
10:42:48AM SAFEGUARDS THE HERITAGE OF THE CITY AND PROVIDES ECONOMIC
10:42:52AM BENEFITS.
10:42:52AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY WAS ESTABLISHED AROUND 1919.
10:42:56AM THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS FROM THE SANBORN COMPANY MAPS FROM
10:43:01AM 1951.
10:43:02AM THAT IS THE FIRST TIME THE CEMETERY APPEARS ON ONE OF THESE
10:43:04AM HISTORIC MAPS.
10:43:05AM IT SHOWS THE CEMETERY AT THE INTERSECTION OF 22nd STREET
10:43:09AM AND WHAT WAS THEN CALLED BUFFALO AVENUE.
10:43:12AM AND THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT IS THE MODERN DAY AERIAL

10:43:16AM PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SAME AREA.
10:43:17AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY IS A 20-ACRE CEMETERY.
10:43:25AM RECTANGULAR PLAN DIVIDED INTO QUADRANTS AND LANDSCAPED WITH
10:43:29AM A VARIETY OF VEGETATION, INCLUDING OAK TREES AND --
10:43:37AM WHEN MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY OPENED IN 1919, ITS EARLIEST
10:43:41AM BURIALS INCLUDED THOSE OF BLACK AMERICAN SOLDIERS WHO HAD
10:43:44AM DIED IN FRANCE DURING THE GREAT WAR.
10:43:46AM WITH THE 1917 SELECTIVE SERVICE ACT, ABOUT 42,000 FLORIDIANS
10:43:59AM JOINED THE ARMED SERVICES FOR THE GREAT WAR.
10:44:01AM BLACK AMERICAN SOLDIERS WERE PLACED IN SEGREGATED REGIMENTS
10:44:04AM AND MADE UP ABOUT 36% OF THE ARMY ENLISTEES FROM FLORIDA.
10:44:09AM AT THAT TIME, TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY LACKED A
10:44:16AM GUARANTEED FINAL RESTING PLACE FOR ALL VETERANS.
10:44:20AM IN 1921, THE WOMEN'S AUXILIARY OF THE AMERICAN LEGION
10:44:25AM DONATED THREE ACRES ON MEMORIAL HIGHWAY, NOW KENNEDY
10:44:28AM BOULEVARD, TO THE AMERICAN LEGION POST FIVE FOR A VETERANS
10:44:32AM CEMETERY.
10:44:32AM HOWEVER, THIS WAS NOT OPENED TO THE BLACK AMERICAN SOLDIERS
10:44:36AM BEING IN CITY LIMITS.
10:44:37AM IN 1923, THE WOMEN'S AUXILIARY AND THE TAMPA CHAPTER OF THE
10:44:41AM AMERICAN RED CROSS PURCHASED A PORTION OF THE MEMORIAL PARK
10:44:45AM CEMETERY TO BE DEDICATED TO BLACK VETERANS.
10:44:48AM THE FULL MILITARY FUNERALS INCLUDED PARADES OF VETERANS, RED
10:44:53AM CROSS NURSES, BANDS AND FIRING SQUADS.
10:44:56AM THE CEMETERY INCLUDES AT LEAST ONE VETERAN OF THE AMERICAN

10:45:00AM CIVIL WAR AND MOST OF OUR 20th CENTURY WARS.
10:45:03AM THE CEMETERY INCLUDES BURIALS THAT HAVE BEEN RELOCATED FROM
10:45:11AM OTHER CEMETERIES SUCH AS ZION CEMETERY, TO THIS SITE.
10:45:15AM SOME OF THE GRAVES ARE FROM AS EARLY AS 1906.
10:45:19AM THIS INCLUDES BURIALS -- THE CEMETERY INCLUDES BURIALS OF
10:45:24AM THOSE WHO PLAYED SIGNIFICANT AND DIVERSE ROLES IN THE
10:45:27AM HISTORY OF THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING THE GRAVE OF CHRISTINE
10:45:31AM MEACHAM WHO WAS AN EDUCATOR AND PRINCIPAL AT TAMPA'S HARLEM
10:45:36AM ACADEMY.
10:45:36AM DR. WILLIAMS, WHO WAS THE FIRST BLACK AMERICAN DOCTOR TO
10:45:39AM PERFORM SURGERY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:45:41AM AND THOSE THAT REPRESENT THE EVERYDAY LIFE IN TAMPA, SUCH AS
10:45:45AM LAUNDRESSES, CIGAR MAKERS, STEVEDORES, NURSES, DOCTORS,
10:45:49AM MINISTERS.
10:45:49AM MANY OF THE DECORATIVE ELEMENTS ON THE GRAVE MARKERS ARE
10:45:55AM RELIGIOUS IN NATURE AS WAS POPULAR IN FUNERARY ART IN THE
10:46:00AM 20th CENTURY.
10:46:01AM THERE ARE HEADSTONE PORTRAITS AND SECULAR SYMBOLS
10:46:06AM REPRESENTING CERTAIN BENEVOLENT SOCIETIES AND FRATERNAL
10:46:09AM ORGANIZATIONS.
10:46:09AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY
10:46:14AM CODE SECTION 27-257A FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION.
10:46:19AM THE CEMETERY WAS ESTABLISHED AND ACHIEVED SIGNIFICANCE
10:46:22AM DURING THE PERIOD OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE AS DELINEATED IN
10:46:26AM THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES GUIDELINES WHICH IS

10:46:29AM GENERALLY AT LEAST 50 YEARS AGO.
10:46:31AM THESE HISTORIC RESOURCES ARE SIGNIFICANT IN THE AREA OF
10:46:38AM COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, MILITARY HISTORY, ETHNIC
10:46:42AM HISTORY AND ARCHITECTURE.
10:46:43AM IT MAINTAIN ITS INTEGRITY OF LOCATION, SITE, AND SETTING.
10:46:48AM AS I STATED EARLIER, THE APPLICATION DATE WAS JUNE 14th,
10:46:56AM 2023.
10:46:56AM THE HPC REVIEWED AND RECOMMENDED THIS APPLICATION FOR YOUR
10:47:02AM APPROVAL ON SEPTEMBER 19.
10:47:05AM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF FOUND THE APPLICATION
10:47:07AM CONSISTENT WITH THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
10:47:10AM NOTICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED TO THE OWNER, THE CITY, TO NEARBY
10:47:14AM PROPERTY OWNERS AND TO REGISTERED ORGANIZATIONS.
10:47:16AM THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THEREFORE THAT TAMPA CITY
10:47:20AM COUNCIL APPROVE THE DESIGNATION OF MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY AS
10:47:24AM A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK BASED ON IT MEETING THE CRITERIA.
10:47:29AM AS I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE
10:47:32AM COMMUNITY AND THE FRIENDS OF BELMONT HEIGHTS MEMORIAL PARK
10:47:35AM CEMETERY FOR THEIR EFFORTS IN COLLABORATION IN BRINGING THIS
10:47:38AM FORWARD TO YOU TODAY.
10:47:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:40AM THAT WAS A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
10:47:42AM I LEARNED A LOT OF NEW THINGS THAT I DIDN'T KNOW.
10:47:45AM IN COMPARISON, THIS IS A CEMETERY OF PIONEERS FROM THE BLACK
10:47:50AM COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING -- I MEAN, SOME OF THE

10:47:52AM NAMES YOU SHOWED AND THAT IS JUST A SAMPLING.
10:47:55AM NEARBY WE HAVE OAK LAWN.
10:47:56AM OAK LAWN IS THE DOWNTOWN TAMPA PIONEERS.
10:47:59AM A LOT OF THEM ARE THERE OR WOODLAWN AND THEN FURTHER UP IN
10:48:03AM EAST TAMPA, THERE IS RUSS HAVEN MEMORIAL CEMETERY WHICH HAS
10:48:07AM MORE LIKE THE LATER 20th CENTURY MOVERS AND SHAKERS.
10:48:11AM FLORIDA SENTINEL, MOSES WHITE, SO MANY PEOPLE.
10:48:14AM I HAVE DRIVEN BY THIS CEMETERY MY ENTIRE LIFE.
10:48:17AM MY FAMILY IS BURIED AT MYRTLE HILL DOWN THE ROAD.
10:48:20AM WITH MY GRANDMOTHER, WE WOULD TAKE MLK AND I KNOW THAT THIS
10:48:24AM HAS BEEN CONTROVERSIAL IN THE UPKEEP AND THE MAINTENANCE AND
10:48:27AM EVERYTHING, BUT I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT WE'RE FINALLY
10:48:30AM RECOGNIZING IT FOR THE IMPORTANCE, THE SIGNIFICANCE THAT IT
10:48:33AM HAS ON THIS COMMUNITY.
10:48:36AM AGAIN, WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
10:48:38AM I LEARNED A LOT OF NEW THINGS TODAY.
10:48:40AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:48:41AM >>ELAINE LUND: THANK YOU.
10:48:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
10:48:43AM YES, SIR.
10:48:44AM YES, MA'AM.
10:48:45AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
10:48:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: APPRECIATE IT, CHAIR.
10:48:50AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:48:50AM GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

10:48:51AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE REPORT.
10:48:52AM I ALWAYS LOVE LEARNING HISTORY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR CITY,
10:48:56AM ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO THIS GREAT LANDMARK.
10:48:58AM JUST REALLY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST
10:49:02AM THINGS THAT I WAS ABLE TO VOTE ON AS A MEMBER OF COUNCIL.
10:49:08AM IT SAYS TO ME THAT WE'RE MOVING SWIFTLY FOR THE MAYOR TO
10:49:11AM SIGN OFF ON THIS ON JUNE 14th, TO MOVE TOWARD AN HISTORIC
10:49:16AM LANDMARK IS A CLEAR INDICATOR THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT
10:49:19AM DIRECTION, THE THINGS WE'RE DOING WITH FENCING AND
10:49:22AM RECOGNIZING THE ACTUAL LANDMARK IS REALLY IMPORTANT,
10:49:29AM INCLUDING THE COMMUNITY FIGHTING SO HARD WITH LOVE AND
10:49:31AM PASSION FOR A SACRED GROUND.
10:49:34AM SO I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THIS REPORT.
10:49:37AM IT'S JUST ANOTHER INDICATION THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD,
10:49:39AM THAT WE DO CARE ABOUT EAST TAMPA, AND THIS IS PROOF THAT
10:49:44AM THIS IS EVIDENCE OF THAT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THIS
10:49:48AM PARTICULAR PROJECT.
10:49:49AM SO THANK YOU.
10:49:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:49:51AM YES, SIR.
10:49:51AM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: I ALWAYS WANTED TO GIVE KUDOS TO THIS FOR JUST
10:49:57AM THE GREATNESS OF WHAT GOOD JOURNALISM CAN DO.
10:50:03AM PAUL GUZZO WITH THE TAMPA BAY TIMES.
10:50:03AM IF IT WASN'T FOR MR. GUZZO, A LOT OF THESE THINGS WOULDN'T

10:50:08AM HAVE COME OUT ABOUT MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
10:50:10AM THE FOLKS WHO ARE HERE WHO HAVE DONE SO MUCH WORK.
10:50:13AM MS. NOREEN COPELAND MILLER, ALL OF YOU ALL IT'S FROM THE
10:50:19AM HEART.
10:50:20AM YOUR GRANDFATHER IS BURIED THERE.
10:50:23AM PRIVATE IN WORLD WAR II.
10:50:24AM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS SO MEANINGFUL.
10:50:27AM WE TALK A LOT ABOUT OUR VIETNAM VETERANS WHO ARE 70, 71, 80
10:50:33AM YEARS OLD, ET CETERA, AND THE WELCOME THEY GOT WHEN THEY
10:50:36AM CAME HOME WHICH WAS PEOPLE YELLING AT THEM, SPITTING AT
10:50:39AM THEM, ATTACKING THEM.
10:50:41AM OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN SOLDIERS FROM THE CIVIL WAR TO THE
10:50:45AM VIETNAM WAR GOT THAT AND EVEN WORSE.
10:50:48AM MANY OF THEM LIKE HOSEA WILLIAMS WERE BEATEN IN UNIFORM.
10:50:53AM A LOT OF OUR GREAT CIVIL RIGHTS HEROES, HOSEA WILLIAMS GOT A
10:50:58AM PURPLE HEART IN WORLD WAR II.
10:51:01AM MEDGAR EVERS, BEFORE HE WAS MURDERED IN JACKSON, MISSISSIPPI
10:51:01AM IN 1963, SERVED HIS COUNTRY IN NORMANDY IN WORLD WAR II.
10:51:07AM REVEREND RALPH ABERNATHY.
10:51:09AM SO MANY OF OUR GREAT CIVIL RIGHTS HEROES WORE THAT UNIFORM,
10:51:12AM AND IT MEANT A LOT TO THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE SAYING I LOVE
10:51:16AM MY COUNTRY THAT IS NOT GOING TO STAND UP FOR ME SO MUCH THAT
10:51:20AM I'LL STAND UP FOR IT AGAINST JAPANESE BULLETS, AGAINST
10:51:23AM GERMAN BULLETS, AGAINST NORTH KOREAN BULLETS, AGAINST
10:51:27AM VIETNAMESE BULLETS.

10:51:27AM THEY CAME HOME AND DEMANDED THAT LEVEL OF RESPECT.
10:51:30AM WORLD WAR I IS VERY RELEVANT BECAUSE WE SAW A BIG EXPANSION
10:51:34AM IN WHITE SUPREMACIST RACIAL TERROR AFTER WORLD WAR I BECAUSE
10:51:39AM OF A LOT OF VETERANS AFRICAN AMERICAN RETURNED HOME AND THEY
10:51:42AM SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST 50 YEARS AFTER THE END OF
10:51:44AM RECONSTRUCTION, 45 YEARS, IT'S ABOUT TIME WE GET SOME
10:51:48AM RESPECT AND WE'LL ASK FOR IT BY PUTTING ON THAT UNIFORM.
10:51:52AM GUESS WHAT THEY GOT.
10:51:53AM DISRESPECT.
10:51:54AM GREAT DISRESPECT.
10:51:55AM FOR ME THIS IS WONDERFUL, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SALUTE MR.
10:51:59AM GUZZO AND ALL THE FOLKS WITH THE CEMETERY SOCIETY INCLUDING
10:52:02AM MS. COPELAND MILLER WHO HAS HER GRANDFATHER THERE.
10:52:07AM THAT IS A BIG DEAL.
10:52:09AM THIS IS VERY MEANINGFUL ON OUR AMERICAN JOURNEY AND WHAT IT
10:52:13AM REALLY MEANS TO BE AN AMERICAN AND APPRECIATE HOW WE GOT TO
10:52:16AM WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
10:52:17AM THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
10:52:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:52:19AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:52:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:52:21AM ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON CITY COUNCIL THAT HAVE SPOKEN,
10:52:25AM IF IT WASN'T FOR WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND
10:52:27AM THE ADMINISTRATION.
10:52:28AM HOWEVER, THE ONES THAT REALLY CARRIED THE WORKLOAD, TO THE

10:52:35AM LEFT.
10:52:35AM THE VOLUNTEERS WHO SPENT HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS OF HOURS TO
10:52:38AM MAKE SURE THAT THESE CEMETERIES, ESPECIALLY THIS ONE, IS
10:52:42AM GIVEN THE COURTESY THAT IT SHOULD HAVE HAD MANY YEARS AGO.
10:52:46AM I WANT TO THANK THE VOLUNTEERS FOR DOING THE WORK.
10:52:49AM THEY DO IT AT NC -- NO CASH.
10:52:52AM THEY DO IT BECAUSE OF THE LOVE AND DESIRE TO HONOR THOSE WHO
10:52:55AM HELPED THE CITY GET WHERE IT'S AT TODAY AND HAVE IN SOME WAY
10:53:00AM BEEN FORGOTTEN.
10:53:01AM JUST ACROSS THE STREET, WE HAVE YOUNG KIDS PLAYING ONE OF
10:53:05AM THE GREATEST PARTS OF AMERICA AS FAR AS SPORTS IS CONCERNED.
10:53:08AM I REMEMBER WHEN WEST TAMPA AND THE PARK RIGHT THERE IN THE
10:53:14AM CORNER, THOSE KIDS CAN SEE WHAT GAVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10:53:18AM HAVE THE PARK TO PLAY, BECAUSE THE HEROES WHO GAVE THEIR
10:53:22AM LIFE TO MAKE AMERICA A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
10:53:25AM I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY.
10:53:27AM GOD BLESS YOU.
10:53:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
10:53:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SORT OF ECHOING WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
10:53:32AM JUST SAID, I DO APPRECIATE NOREEN COPELAND MILLER AND WHAT
10:53:37AM YOU HAVE DONE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.
10:53:39AM I BELIEVE IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS I PARTICIPATED IN
10:53:43AM AND EVERYBODY ELSE FROM HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS.
10:53:46AM IF THERE IS A HEART OF HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS, IT IS THE
10:53:50AM CEMETERY.

10:53:50AM I'VE WALKED IT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE WALKED
10:53:53AM THROUGH THERE AND CONTEMPLATED.
10:53:55AM I'M KIND OF LIKE THAT.
10:53:56AM I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WHERE YOU WERE TO KNOW WHERE
10:53:59AM YOU ARE.
10:54:00AM SO THOSE FOLKS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US HAVE PAVED THE WAY
10:54:03AM FOR THE THINGS THAT WE ENJOY TODAY.
10:54:06AM I BELIEVE IN THAT VERY FIRST MEETING I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT,
10:54:10AM MAKE SURE WE FENCE THAT ENTIRE PROPERTY AND THE FENCE WAS
10:54:13AM APPROPRIATE AND THAT THE NEIGHBORS -- NEIGHBORHOOD WAS
10:54:16AM CONSULTED AS TO WHAT THE AESTHETIC LOOKED LIKE AND
10:54:19AM APPROPRIATE FOR A SIGNIFICANT HISTORICAL CEMETERY FOR NOT
10:54:23AM JUST THE CITY OF TAMPA, THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND OUR ENTIRE
10:54:26AM NATION.
10:54:27AM SO I'M FULLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
10:54:29AM I THINK THAT IT IS LONG OVERDUE.
10:54:32AM I LOOK FORWARD TO CELEBRATING IT BEING COMPLETELY FENCED,
10:54:37AM PROTECTED, AND RESTORED TO ITS MAGNIFICENT GLORY.
10:54:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
10:54:43AM I'M SORRY.
10:54:44AM CARLSON.
10:54:45AM I'M LOOKING AT HIS MICROPHONE.
10:54:46AM YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:54:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I WANT TO THANK THOSE WHO ARE HERE.
10:54:53AM I KNOW YOU ALL BROUGHT LOTS OF PEOPLE WITH YOU AND LOTS OF

10:54:56AM PEOPLE THAT ARE VOLUNTEERING WITH YOU OVER THE LAST FEW
10:54:59AM YEARS.
10:55:00AM FOR ANYBODY WATCHING FOR THE FIRST TIME, THIS IS AN ISSUE
10:55:02AM THAT'S BEEN OUT FOR ABOUT THREE YEARS OR MORE.
10:55:05AM THIS WAS A PRIVATELY OWNED CEMETERY, AND WHEN THE PATRIARCH
10:55:10AM DIED, IT WAS LEFT IN A SITUATION WHERE ONLY VOLUNTEERS
10:55:17AM REALLY WERE KEEPING UP.
10:55:18AM THESE FOLKS AND OTHERS WENT OUT EVERY DAY AND WORKED TO KEEP
10:55:20AM IT UP AND THEY STARTED COMING BEFORE US.
10:55:23AM THEN ANOTHER PRIVATE OWNER, YOU ALL CAN GOOGLE ALL THE
10:55:26AM STORIES ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG THREE-YEAR STRUGGLE.
10:55:30AM AND FOR LOTS OF DIFFERENT PIECES OF THIS, IT IS A
10:55:34AM MULTI-DECISION THING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
10:55:37AM AND MANY TIMES VOLUNTEERS GIVE UP ALONG THE WAY, AND THESE
10:55:41AM FOLKS AND THE FOLKS WHO HELPED THEM HAVE BEEN WORKING
10:55:44AM REALLY, REALLY HARD, TIRELESSLY, IN HONOR OF THEIR ANCESTORS
10:55:47AM AND ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE BURIED THERE.
10:55:50AM SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT.
10:55:52AM AND THANKS FOR EVERYBODY WHO HAS HELPED TO SUPPORT THIS
10:55:56AM IMPORTANT HISTORY.
10:55:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:55:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:55:58AM I JUST WANT TO ECHO MY COUNCIL MEMBERS' CONGRATULATIONS.
10:56:02AM THIS IS A LONG-FOUGHT WIN.
10:56:05AM AND IT'S NOT QUITE DONE YET.

10:56:07AM THIS IS GREAT, GETTING THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION, BUT WHAT'S
10:56:11AM REALLY GOING TO BE THE CHERRY ON TOP IS FINISHING BOTH THE
10:56:14AM MEMORIAL AND THE FENCE.
10:56:16AM BUT THE GREAT NEWS IS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK.
10:56:19AM WE'RE ACTUALLY REALLY MOVING ALONG IN ALL OF THESE ISSUES,
10:56:22AM AND I'LL SAY FOR GOVERNMENT, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
10:56:25AM SO -- AND THE GOOD THING IS, WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE CEMETERY
10:56:29AM SOCIETY WILL NOT LET US DROP THE BALL AND THAT YOU WILL BE
10:56:34AM HERE TO CONTINUE AND MAKE SURE THIS CEMETERY GETS THE
10:56:39AM RECOGNITION IT SO BADLY DESERVES AND HAS DESERVED FOR MANY
10:56:44AM YEARS.
10:56:44AM THERE WAS A LOT OF DRAMA THAT WENT THROUGH IT, BUT I'M
10:56:47AM REALLY PROUD NOW THAT IT IS A CITY ASSET, AND THAT WE'RE
10:56:50AM GOING TO TREAT IT LIKE A CITY ASSET.
10:56:52AM VERY EXCITED FOR THAT BECAUSE IT GIVES US A SENSE OF RELIEF,
10:56:58AM I BELIEVE, THAT IT IS IN CITY HANDS AND IT CANNOT BE SOLD,
10:57:04AM CANNOT BE MOVED.
10:57:05AM NOTHING CAN HAPPEN TO THE CEMETERY AGAIN, AND THAT I BELIEVE
10:57:08AM IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS SO IMPORTANT TO THE CITY AND
10:57:10AM THE COMMUNITY AS WE FIND MORE OF THESE CEMETERIES AND
10:57:14AM GRAPPLE WITH WHAT WE AS A CITY WANT TO DO WITH THEM.
10:57:18AM I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE.
10:57:19AM THANK MS. LUND FOR ALL THE WORK SHE DID BEHIND THIS AND ALL
10:57:23AM THE REST OF STAFF BUT ALSO, OF COURSE, THE WONDERFUL
10:57:25AM CEMETERY SOCIETY.

10:57:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:57:27AM LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:57:30AM WE HAVE QUITE A FEW MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC HERE.
10:57:32AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD.
10:57:35AM YES, MA'AM.
10:57:37AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:57:38AM MY NAME IS NOREEN COPELAND MILLER.
10:57:41AM I AM THE FOUNDER OF THE FRIENDS OF BELMONT HEIGHTS MEMORIAL
10:57:45AM PARK CEMETERY.
10:57:45AM I'M GOING TO ASK OUR BOARD MEMBERS IF THEY WOULD STAND UP
10:57:49AM AND COME FORWARD BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ANY OF THIS BY
10:57:54AM OURSELVES.
10:57:54AM IT TAKES ALL OF US.
10:57:56AM EVERYBODY IS NOT HERE, BUT THOSE THAT ARE HERE, I CERTAINLY
10:57:58AM WANT THEM TO KNOW HOW MUCH THEY ARE APPRECIATED AND THAT WE
10:58:01AM KNOW THAT WE ARE BEING HEARD AND WE ARE GRATEFUL.
10:58:05AM I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU TO DENNIS FERNANDEZ
10:58:09AM AND HIS WONDERFUL STAFF.
10:58:11AM THIS HAS BEEN -- IT'S BEEN AN HONOR TO WORK WITH THEM FOR
10:58:15AM MONTHS, BUT HE ALWAYS INCLUDED US IN THAT PROCESS, AND FOR
10:58:20AM THAT I'M JUST VERY GRATEFUL.
10:58:23AM THEY HAVE TRULY EMBRACED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNITY
10:58:28AM INVOLVEMENT, NOT ONLY DID THEY HEAR US, THEY LISTENED,
10:58:32AM WORKED WITH US.
10:58:34AM WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS MEETINGS.

10:58:35AM HE CAME IN THE COMMUNITY, MET WITH US, LEE DAVIS ADVISORY
10:58:41AM RESOURCE CENTER.
10:58:42AM GONE TO HIS OFFICE, MET WITH HIM.
10:58:44AM WE WORKED ON THE DRAFT WITH THEM, THE PRESENTATION.
10:58:47AM WE WERE INCLUDED IN THAT PROCESS.
10:58:49AM AND FOR THAT WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL BECAUSE NONE OF THIS COULD
10:58:53AM HAVE NOT HAPPENED WITHOUT ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER.
10:58:56AM THIS IS TRULY ALL WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO MAKE OUR
10:59:00AM COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE.
10:59:02AM I AM VERY GRATEFUL FOR MS. AILEEN HENDERSON FOR INTRODUCING
10:59:07AM ME TO THAT MONUMENT THAT'S IN THE CEMETERY.
10:59:09AM I HAD NO IDEA AND I WAS GOING THERE ALL THE TIME BECAUSE MY
10:59:12AM GRANDFATHER IS NOT BURIED TOO FAR FROM IT.
10:59:15AM BUT I NEVER TOOK THE TIME TO GO OVER THERE UNTIL WE STARTED
10:59:20AM DOING THE CLEANUPS.
10:59:22AM THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PROCESS.
10:59:23AM WHEN ED JOHNSON WAS CITY MANAGER, WE AS A COMMUNITY HAD TO
10:59:27AM BEG FOR SIGNAGE.
10:59:29AM I'LL GIVE HIM THAT CREDIT.
10:59:30AM HE PUT THE FENCE UP FRONT, PUT THE SIGN THERE THAT SAID
10:59:33AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
10:59:35AM BECAUSE FOR CENTURIES, DECADES, WE HAD NOTHING BUT A VERBAL
10:59:40AM NAME.
10:59:40AM NOTHING WRITTEN.
10:59:41AM AT LEAST WE HAVE THAT.

10:59:42AM NOW WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET WHAT WE TRULY DESERVE.
10:59:46AM WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL.
10:59:47AM WE DON'T TAKE IT LIGHTLY.
10:59:49AM WE HONORED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO THE WORK MOST HISTORICAL
10:59:55AM THING TODAY.
10:59:55AM THIS IS SO GOOD FOR EAST TAMPA.
10:59:57AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
10:59:59AM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT.
11:00:00AM THIS IS SOMETHING GOOD THAT WE ARE GOING TO SHARE WITH
11:00:03AM EVERYBODY, HIGHLIGHT HOW GREAT THERE ARE SOME GOOD THINGS
11:00:05AM GOING ON IN EAST TAMPA, AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM.
11:00:08AM WE'RE GOING TO EMBRACE THIS.
11:00:10AM THIS IS GREAT NEWS.
11:00:11AM THE REAL HISTORICAL PART, THIS CEMETERY IS THE CENTER OF
11:00:16AM TAMPA AND HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
11:00:18AM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, DURING 21st CENTURY, SURVEY
11:00:23AM RESEARCH AND THEY NOTED THAT THAT CEMETERY IS IN THE HEART
11:00:27AM OF TAMPA.
11:00:28AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO
11:00:31AM WORKING WITH YOU ALL.
11:00:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:38AM >> ANY OTHER MEMBERS?
11:00:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:00:41AM >> MY NAME IS CYNTHIA O'KEATON.
11:00:45AM I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IT IS SUCH A GOOD THING THAT THIS

11:00:49AM IS HAPPENING FOR US.
11:00:51AM I GREW UP DOWN THE STREET FROM THE CEMETERY, AND I USED TO
11:00:56AM WALK TO SCHOOL GOING THROUGH THERE.
11:00:58AM SOMETIMES WE USED TO GO THROUGH THE CEMETERY BECAUSE IT WAS
11:01:00AM MORE FUN TO DO THAT.
11:01:02AM ANYWAY, I'M SO ELATED BECAUSE PART OF POST FIVE THAT HAS THE
11:01:12AM CEMETERY OVER ON KENNEDY, AND THEY HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED ON
11:01:17AM HELPING THIS EVENT TO HAPPEN.
11:01:20AM I GOT SOME OF THE HISTORY THAT I JUST STARTED CRYING ABOUT
11:01:25AM TO KNOW THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING BACK IN THE DAY.
11:01:29AM I GREW UP IN THE '50s, SO I KNOW WHAT SEGREGATION WAS ALL
11:01:34AM ABOUT.
11:01:34AM I'M JUST SO GRATEFUL FOR YOU ALL AND WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE
11:01:38AM TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
11:01:40AM I'M VERY HAPPY.
11:01:41AM THANK YOU.
11:01:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:01:43AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:01:43AM WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK?
11:01:48AM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:01:54AM >> AILEEN HENDERSON.
11:01:56AM TODAY IS A GOOD DAY.
11:02:02AM IT WAS ALWAYS SOMETHING SPECIAL WHEN YOU GET TO SEE THE
11:02:07AM FRUITS OF YOUR LABOR.
11:02:08AM AND FOR THE HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IS

11:02:29AM EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING TODAY.
11:02:31AM CLEARLY, I AM IN FAVOR OF MOVING THE LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK
11:02:38AM DESIGNATION FORWARD FOR MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY AND I HOPE
11:02:42AM ALL OF YOU ARE AS WELL.
11:02:44AM I WANT TO GIVE THANKS TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION
11:02:45AM COMMISSION.
11:02:48AM DENNIS FERNANDEZ AND ELAINE LUND HAVE BEEN STELLAR.
11:02:52AM THANK YOU TO NICOLE TRAVIS.
11:02:55AM SHE WITHOUT DOUBT WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN PURCHASING MEMORIAL
11:02:58AM PARK CEMETERY AND CONTINUES TO OVERSEE THE BEST INTEREST OF
11:03:02AM THE CEMETERY.
11:03:03AM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:03:06AM THANK YOU.
11:03:06AM THE UNWAVERING SUPPORT HAS NOT GONE UNNOTICED, AND PLEASE
11:03:14AM KNOW WE KNOW IT CONTINUES.
11:03:17AM THANK YOU TO THE BELMONT HEIGHTS COMMUNITY.
11:03:25AM HOW FORTUNATE AM I TO HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO
11:03:33AM KNOW SO MANY OF YOU AND SEE HISTORIC BELMONT HEIGHTS THROUGH
11:03:40AM THEIR LENSES.
11:03:43AM AND FINALLY, THANK YOU TO MR. NOREEN COPELAND MILLER.
11:03:51AM YOU ARE A WARRIOR, THE FACE OF MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, A
11:03:55AM ROCK STAR.
11:03:57AM YOUR EFFORTS TO DO RIGHT BY YOUR FAMILY BURIED THERE ON THE
11:04:01AM CEMETERY ARE TIRELESS AND ENDLESS.
11:04:03AM THIS DESIGNATION WOULD NOT BE HAPPENING WITHOUT YOU.

11:04:08AM I AM HONORED TO KNOW YOU AND LEARN FROM YOU.
11:04:16AM COUNCIL, PLEASE SUPPORT HER LABORS SO SHE CAN TASTE THE
11:04:20AM FRUIT, SO ALL CAN TASTE THE FRUIT.
11:04:25AM HOW SWEET IT IS INDEED.
11:04:27AM THANK YOU.
11:04:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:04:30AM ANYBODY ELSE?
11:04:32AM YES, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:04:35AM >> HI.
11:04:36AM MY NAME IS SIMON ROE.
11:04:38AM I CURRENTLY LIVE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AWAY FROM MEMORIAL PARK
11:04:41AM CEMETERY.
11:04:42AM I HAVEN'T ALWAYS LIVED IN TAMPA BUT IN THE SHORT TIME I'VE
11:04:45AM BEEN HERE I'VE SEEN THE KIND OF LOVE AND SUPPORT THAT GOES
11:04:48AM TOWARDS EVERY CEMETERY HERE IN TAMPA, BUT ESPECIALLY
11:04:51AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY.
11:04:54AM I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT THERE IS SOMETHING BEING DONE TO SHOW
11:04:58AM RESPECT FOR THE MANY SOULS THAT ARE BURIED THERE.
11:05:01AM I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT KIND OF RESPECT FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY
11:05:07AM HERE IN TAMPA.
11:05:08AM BUYING THE CEMETERY WAS A BIG FIRST STEP.
11:05:13AM ANOTHER BIG STEP IS DESIGNATING THE SITE AS AN HISTORIC
11:05:17AM LANDMARK AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THE NEXT STEP OF PUTTING UP
11:05:21AM FENCING AROUND THE CEMETERY.
11:05:22AM HISTORY NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED.

11:05:27AM IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE LEFT TO THE SIDELINES.
11:05:31AM IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO SPEND OUR PRESENT WORKING ON SO WE
11:05:35AM CAN HAVE A FUTURE AND PRESERVE THE LEGACY FOR FUTURE
11:05:38AM GENERATIONS HERE IN TAMPA.
11:05:40AM I BELIEVE IT WAS SAID AT ONE OF THE BELMONT HEIGHTS
11:05:46AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS THAT EAST TAMPA HISTORY IS
11:05:50AM TAMPA HISTORY.
11:05:52AM MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY IS TAMPA HISTORY.
11:05:55AM IT'S ALL HISTORY, AND IT DESERVES TO BE RESPECTED.
11:05:59AM SO I'M GLAD TO SEE IT'S GAINED THE RESPECT IT DESERVES HERE
11:06:03AM TODAY.
11:06:03AM THANK YOU.
11:06:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:06:04AM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:06:10AM >> YES, MY NAME IS ALFREDO, LAST NAME IS MORRONI.
11:06:15AM CANADIAN NAME BUT I GREW UP HERE IN TAMPA.
11:06:20AM I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I SEE THE SINCERE, GENUINE
11:06:23AM SUPPORT THAT THE COUNCIL HAS MUSTERED UP TO SUPPORT THIS
11:06:28AM EFFORT.
11:06:28AM I REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU AND WISH YOU WOULD CONTINUE
11:06:32AM TO SUPPORT US.
11:06:33AM THANK YOU.
11:06:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:06:34AM ALL RIGHTY.
11:06:35AM MS. FEELEY, ARE YOU COMING UP?

11:06:39AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:06:42AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF
11:06:44AM DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
11:06:46AM I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT.
11:06:47AM I HEARD FROM DENNIS FERNANDEZ VERY EARLY THIS MORNING THAT
11:06:50AM HE WAS ILL AND HE COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY.
11:06:53AM AND I KNOW THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT THAT HE AND ELAINE HAD PUT
11:06:58AM IN TO WORKING WITH THE GROUP IN ORDER TO GET THIS.
11:07:01AM ONCE WE OWNED IT, WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO DESIGNATE IT AND
11:07:04AM THAT'S WHAT WE SET OUT TO DO.
11:07:06AM JUST WANTED -- I THINK HE'S WATCHING ON TV.
11:07:10AM JUST A SHOUT-OUT TO THAT TEAM AND THE RECOGNITION THAT WAS
11:07:14AM RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY.
11:07:15AM SO THANK YOU AND THE PARTNERSHIP.
11:07:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO MENTION DENNIS AND ELAINE.
11:07:20AM I THINK THEY HAVE ONE OF THE COOLEST JOBS IN THE CITY
11:07:22AM BECAUSE I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH FROM THEM OVER THE YEARS.
11:07:26AM THEY GET TO SEE THE HISTORY, PRESERVE THE HISTORY,
11:07:27AM PROTECTION THE HISTORY, AND THEY HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT JOB.
11:07:31AM THANK YOU TO THEM.
11:07:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHOUT-OUT TO DENNIS AND HOPE YOU FEEL
11:07:35AM BETTER AND CONGRATULATIONS ON US MOVING THIS FORWARD.
11:07:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF THERE'S NOTHING FURTHER, I'LL ASK FOR
11:07:41AM A MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:07:42AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.

11:07:44AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:07:45AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:07:46AM AYE.
11:07:47AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING IT.
11:07:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I TAKE GREAT PLEASURE IN DOING SO.
11:07:52AM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:07:52AM I MOVE FILE HPC-23-07-C, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
11:07:58AM FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF
11:08:01AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, DESIGNATING MEMORIAL PARK CEMETERY, LOCATED
11:08:05AM AT 2425 EAST DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD, TAMPA,
11:08:11AM FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF,
11:08:16AM AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK; PROVIDING FOR A REPEAL OF ALL
11:08:21AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
11:08:24AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:08:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
11:08:28AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:08:29AM LET'S GET A ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:08:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:08:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:08:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:08:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:08:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:08:41AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:08:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:08:43AM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

11:08:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:08:46AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:08:46AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:08:46AM YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
11:08:54AM GO AHEAD, YES, MA'AM.
11:08:56AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:08:57AM >> SECOND READING AND ADOPTION HELD ON MARCH -- [INAUDIBLE]
11:09:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 7, 9:30 A.M.
11:09:08AM >> AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD
11:09:11AM FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:09:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:09:15AM ALL RIGHT.
11:09:18AM THANKS.
11:09:19AM ENJOY YOUR DAY.
11:09:19AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:09:20AM ITEM NUMBER 3 IS A SCRIVENER'S PROPOSER YES, MA'AM, GO
11:09:27AM AHEAD.
11:09:28AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ, LEGAL
11:09:31AM DEPARTMENT.
11:09:32AM ITEM NUMBER 3 IS AN ORDINANCE CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR
11:09:36AM TO THE ORDINANCE WHICH APPROVED AND ADOPTED TA/CPA 23-16.
11:09:41AM IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
11:09:42AM THERE WAS A DELAY BETWEEN THE TIME THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE
11:09:47AM PLAN AMENDMENT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED BEFORE CITY COUNCIL
11:09:49AM TO THE TIME IT WAS ACTUALLY HEARD AND IN THE INTERIM, FOLIO

11:09:53AM NUMBERS WERE CHANGED ON THE TWO PARCELS IN QUESTION.
11:09:55AM SO THIS ORDINANCE JUST CORRECTS THE PRIOR ORDINANCE BY
11:09:59AM SUBSTITUTING THE CORRECT FOLIO NUMBERS.
11:10:02AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:10:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:10:04AM NO.
11:10:05AM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM NUMBER
11:10:08AM 3.
11:10:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE TA/CPA 23-16, ORDINANCE BEING
11:10:13AM PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
11:10:15AM AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2024-5, PASSED AND ORDAINED BY THE
11:10:20AM CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA ON JANUARY 11, 2024,
11:10:23AM CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR IN THE BODY OF THE ORDINANCE
11:10:26AM BY UPDATING THE INCORRECT FOLIO NUMBERS THAT WERE PROVIDED
11:10:29AM IN ERROR AND SUBSTITUTING THE CORRECT FOLIO NUMBERS;
11:10:33AM PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:10:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:10:38AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:10:40AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:10:40AM AYE.
11:10:41AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:10:43AM YES, MA'AM.
11:10:44AM ITEM NUMBER 4.
11:10:46AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: YES, ITEM NUMBER 4 IS ALSO AN
11:10:48AM ORDINANCE CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR TO TA/CPA 23-15

11:10:54AM ANOTHER COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
11:10:56AM CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE TEXT OF THE AMENDMENT, AND THOSE
11:11:01AM WEREN'T ACCURATELY REFLECTED IN THE ORIGINAL EXHIBIT A
11:11:04AM ATTACHED TO THE PRIOR ORDINANCE.
11:11:07AM THIS ATTACHES THE CORRECT TEXT AMENDMENT LANGUAGE.
11:11:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:11:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THIS ONE, DO WE NEED TO
11:11:14AM SET THE SECOND READING FOR THE FIRST ONE?
11:11:16AM FOR THE FIRST ONE WE JUST DID, THE SCRIVENER'S ERROR AND
11:11:27AM THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WASN'T HERE.
11:11:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS A UNANIMOUS VOTE WITH COUNCIL
11:11:37AM MEMBER CARLSON BEING ABSENT AND SECOND READING AND ADOPTION
11:11:42AM --
11:11:43AM >>THE CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION HELD ON MARCH 7,
11:11:45AM 2024, AT 9:30 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY
11:11:50AM BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:11:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:11:54AM IS THERE ANYTHING FURTHER ON ITEM NUMBER 4.
11:11:57AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: NOTHING FURTHER.
11:11:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, MIND READING ITEM
11:12:00AM 4?
11:12:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: MY PLEASURE.
11:12:02AM I MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
11:12:07AM CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 2023-161,
11:12:10AM PASSED AND ORDAINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA

11:12:14AM ON NOVEMBER 16, 2023, CORRECTING A SCRIVENER'S ERROR BY
11:12:18AM SUBSTITUTING A CORRECTED EXHIBIT "A" FOR THE PREVIOUSLY
11:12:21AM APPROVED EXHIBIT "A" THAT WAS PROVIDED IN ERROR; PROVIDING
11:12:25AM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:12:26AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:12:28AM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:12:30AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:12:31AM AYE.
11:12:32AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:12:32AM PLEASE READ THE VOTE.
11:12:35AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
11:12:39AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:12:41AM SECOND HEARING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 7, 2024,
11:12:44AM AT 9:30 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD,
11:12:49AM THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:12:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:53AM LET'S GO TO CONSENT AGENDA.
11:12:56AM COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH PUBLIC SAFETY, 5 THROUGH 8.
11:12:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
11:13:00AM I MOVE ITEMS 5 THROUGH 8 AND I DO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT-OUT
11:13:04AM ON THE DONATION OF THE POLICE CANINE OAKLEY AND THANK OAKLEY
11:13:12AM FOR THEIR WORK FOR THE CITY.
11:13:14AM DOGS ARE AWESOME.
11:13:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA WITH A
11:13:19AM MOTION, SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.

11:13:20AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:13:21AM AYE.
11:13:21AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:13:23AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:24AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, 9 THROUGH 15.
11:13:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:13:28AM I MOVE FILES 9 THROUGH 15 FOR PARKS, RECREATION AND CULTURE.
11:13:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON,
11:13:35AM SECOND BY MIRANDA.
11:13:36AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:13:37AM AYE.
11:13:38AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, 17 THROUGH 22.
11:13:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE ITEMS 17 THROUGH 22.
11:13:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:13:45AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:13:47AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:13:47AM AYE.
11:13:48AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:13:48AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:13:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE ITEMS 23 THROUGH 28.
11:13:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION THERE COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA,
11:13:55AM SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
11:13:56AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:13:57AM AYE.
11:13:58AM ANY OPPOSED?

11:13:58AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, 29 THROUGH 37.
11:14:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEMS 29 THROUGH 37.
11:14:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:14:06AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:14:07AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:14:08AM AYE.
11:14:08AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:14:09AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, ITEMS 38 THROUGH 41.
11:14:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE ITEMS 38 THROUGH 41.
11:14:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM CLENDENIN AND SECOND BY
11:14:18AM MIRANDA.
11:14:18AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:14:19AM AYE.
11:14:21AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SET ITEM NUMBER 42.
11:14:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: 42 FOR REVIEWING HEARING ON APRIL 18,
11:14:27AM 2024, 10 A.M. IN THE MORNING.
11:14:32AM ITEM -- THAT'S IT.
11:14:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'RE SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR
11:14:36AM ITEM NUMBER 42 BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:14:39AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:14:41AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:14:41AM AYE.
11:14:42AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:14:42AM ITEM 43 WE TOOK CARE OF.
11:14:47AM WE GO TO SECOND READINGS, 44, 45, AND 46.

11:14:52AM 44 IS NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
11:14:54AM WHO WILL BE SPEAKING ON ITEM 44?
11:14:56AM THIS IS ANOTHER HISTORIC PRESERVATION EXEMPTION.
11:15:02AM >>ELAINE LUND: ELAINE LUND, HISTORIC PRESERVATION STAFF.
11:15:05AM THERE WAS A FULL PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM AT THE FIRST
11:15:08AM READING.
11:15:08AM I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
11:15:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
11:15:12AM NO.
11:15:13AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 44?
11:15:16AM I DON'T SEE ANYONE.
11:15:17AM NOBODY REGISTERED.
11:15:18AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM CLENDENIN AND SECOND BY MIRANDA.
11:15:21AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:15:21AM AYE.
11:15:22AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:15:22AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, WOULD YOU MIND READING THIS?
11:15:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE FILE HTX24-2211, IS AN ORDINANCE
11:15:30AM BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
11:15:34AM ORDINANCE APPROVING AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROPERTY TAX
11:15:37AM EXEMPTION APPLICATION RELATIVE TO THE RESTORATION,
11:15:40AM RENOVATION, REHABILITATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNED BY A 1
11:15:45AM A TAMPA BAY, INC. LOCATED AT 1208 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE,
11:15:49AM TAMPA, FLORIDA IN THE WEST TAMPA MULTIPLE PROPERTIES
11:15:51AM LISTING, BASED UPON CERTAIN FINDINGS, PROVIDING FOR NOTICE

11:15:55AM TO THE PROPERTY APPRAISER OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, PROVIDING
11:15:56AM FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN
11:15:59AM CONFLICT, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:16:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:16:02AM CLENDENIN.
11:16:03AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:16:04AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:16:20AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH HURTAK AND
11:16:22AM CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:16:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:16:25AM ITEMS 45 AND 46 ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL, WHICH MEANS IF YOU ARE
11:16:31AM GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON THESE ITEMS, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE
11:16:34AM YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
11:16:36AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING ON 45 OR 46, PLEASE STAND
11:16:41AM AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
11:16:43AM WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
11:16:46AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:16:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
11:16:52AM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, YOU WERE ABSENT AT 45 AND 46.
11:16:55AM DID YOU REVIEW THE RECORD?
11:16:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, I DID.
11:16:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE OKAY TO VOTE?
11:17:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM OKAY TO VOTE.
11:17:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 45, I SEE LaCHONE DOCK ON.
11:17:04AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.

11:17:06AM THANK YOU.
11:17:07AM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:17:09AM ITEM 45 IS BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND READING.
11:17:13AM THIS IS REZ-22-61.
11:17:16AM IT IS FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 3602 NORTH 50th STREET
11:17:20AM AND 3501 NORTH 46th STREET.
11:17:23AM THIS REQUEST WAS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RM 16,
11:17:27AM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO
11:17:30AM ALLOW THE USE OF FUNERAL PARLOR AND CEMETERY.
11:17:34AM SITE PLANS HAVE BEEN PROVIDED AND CERTIFIED.
11:17:38AM THEY WERE PROVIDED TO THE CLERK, AND I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU
11:17:41AM HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:17:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOCK?
11:17:45AM NO.
11:17:46AM ALL RIGHT.
11:17:46AM IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
11:17:49AM YES, SIR.
11:17:50AM YOU'RE BACK.
11:17:51AM WERE YOU IN TPD BEFORE --
11:17:57AM >> FOUR YEARS AGO.
11:17:59AM I'M BACK.
11:18:00AM GOOD MORNING.
11:18:00AM GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.
11:18:01AM COLIN RICE WITH THE LAW FIRM, WEST CASS.
11:18:06AM HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE, STACY YATES.

11:18:09AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:18:11AM WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS MORNING.
11:18:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
11:18:15AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM?
11:18:18AM ITEM NUMBER 45?
11:18:20AM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:18:21AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE YOU CLOSE, 4-2 VOTE.
11:18:26AM TWO VOTES.
11:18:27AM ONLY SIX MEMBERS HERE, FIVE MEMBERS HERE.
11:18:29AM WE TAKE THIS VOTE, IT MAY NOT PASS.
11:18:31AM I THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE MR. VIERA AND CLENDENIN COME IN.
11:18:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF MR. CARLSON IS HERE AND MR. VIERA --
11:18:41AM IF MR. VIERA --
11:18:56AM JUST A MOMENT.
11:18:59AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:19:00AM YOU'RE RIGHT.
11:19:04AM I'M LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS.
11:19:05AM LET'S HOLD ITEM 45, SIR, JUST TO BE FAIR AND GIVE IT A
11:19:25AM MOMENT.
11:19:26AM WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER 46 AND THEN WE'LL GO BACK TO 45.
11:19:29AM ITEM NUMBER 46, YES, MA'AM.
11:19:31AM MS. DOCK.
11:19:31AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: YES, THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
11:19:34AM LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:19:36AM ITEM 46 IS REZ-23-58.

11:19:40AM THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
11:19:43AM THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 3301 WEST IOWA AVENUE.
11:19:47AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS 60 RESIDENTIAL
11:19:51AM SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS 50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
11:19:53AM AND THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REZONING.
11:19:57AM THERE IS NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST.
11:19:59AM AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:20:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. DOCK?
11:20:03AM NO.
11:20:05AM MR. MICHELINI, YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:20:07AM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
11:20:09AM I WAS REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
11:20:10AM THIS ORIGINALLY PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:20:12AM WE HAD NO OPPOSITION, AND IT REORIENTS THE PROPERTY
11:20:17AM CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
11:20:18AM RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
11:20:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
11:20:22AM NO.
11:20:23AM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
11:20:26AM NUMBER 46?
11:20:26AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:20:29AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:20:30AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:20:30AM AYE.
11:20:31AM ALL RIGHT.

11:20:33AM COUNCIL MEMBER -- DID I LEAVE OFF WITH YOU?
11:20:36AM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, READ 46?
11:20:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO PROBLEM.
11:20:40AM FILE NUMBER REZ-23-58, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR SECOND
11:20:45AM READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
11:20:47AM GENERAL VICINITY OF 3301 WEST IOWA AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF
11:20:51AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION
11:20:54AM 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS-60, RESIDENTIAL,
11:20:59AM SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
11:21:02AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:21:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
11:21:06AM HURTAK.
11:21:06AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:21:08AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:21:16AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
11:21:18AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:21:19AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:21:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:21:21AM ALL RIGHT.
11:21:23AM WE'LL GO BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 45.
11:21:25AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU WERE OUT OF THE ROOM.
11:21:28AM ARE YOU GOOD WITH THE VOTE?
11:21:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:21:31AM WHAT I TYPICALLY DO, NOT TO GIVE OUT INSIDE BASEBALL,
11:21:34AM WHENEVER I HAVE TO LEAVE THE ROOM TO USE THE RESTROOM, I PUT

11:21:37AM THE YouTube ON AND LISTEN.
11:21:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: TMI.
11:21:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DID YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MR.
11:21:49AM CHAIR?
11:21:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, WE DIDN'T READ IT.
11:21:52AM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:21:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK JUST READ.
11:21:57AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WAS A NO VOTE AT THE BEGINNING.
11:21:59AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU READ 45?
11:22:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAD A MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:22:04AM WE DID NOT GET A SECOND.
11:22:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:22:06AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN CLOSED ITEM NUMBER 45.
11:22:08AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:22:09AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:22:10AM AYE.
11:22:11AM THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
11:22:13AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE --
11:22:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR, MY PLEASURE.
11:22:17AM MOVE AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND
11:22:19AM ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL MAGISTRATE'S
11:22:22AM REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION, REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
11:22:25AM VICINITY OF 3602 NORTH 50th STREET AND 3501 NORTH 46th
11:22:29AM STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
11:22:31AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION

11:22:34AM RM 16 RENTING MULTIFAMILY TO PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT,
11:22:37AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:22:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:22:40AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:22:47AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY -- I'M SORRY.
11:22:50AM MOTION FAILED --
11:22:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S A TIE VOTE.
11:23:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE HAVE TO HOLD IT UNTIL WE HAVE SEVEN.
11:23:11AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAY WE HAVE THAT VOTE AGAIN, PLEASE?
11:23:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE MOTION FAILS WITH A TIE VOTE.
11:23:23AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH MIRANDA, HENDERSON, HURTAK
11:23:26AM VOTING NO AND CARLSON ABSENT AT VOTE.
11:23:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, CONSIDERING THE
11:23:30AM CIRCUMSTANCES, DID THIS GET CONTINUE -- DOES THIS GET
11:23:35AM CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WHEN WE
11:23:37AM HAVE A FULL COUNCIL WHICH I BELIEVE IS MARCH 7 AT THIS
11:23:40AM POINT?
11:23:40AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
11:23:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 48 AS WELL HAS THE SAME PROBLEM.
11:23:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: IS COUNCILMAN CARLSON GONE FOR THE TIME BEING
11:23:52AM OR FOR THE REST OF THE DAY?
11:23:53AM I KNOW THINGS HAPPEN.
11:23:56AM >> RIGHT NOW FOR THE TIME BEING.
11:23:57AM I JUST DON'T KNOW IF HE WILL BE RETURNING.
11:24:00AM I MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION FOR YOU SHORTLY.

11:24:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M GOING TO BE LEAVING IN TEN MINUTES
11:24:08AM BECAUSE I HAVE AN EVENT WITH THE STUDENTS --
11:24:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN IS
11:24:12AM GOING TO BE LEAVING IN A FEW MINUTES.
11:24:14AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW.
11:24:18AM IS IT POSSIBLE TO RETAKE THE VOTE WHEN WE HAVE A FULL
11:24:22AM COUNCIL LATER THIS AFTERNOON AFTER LUNCH?
11:24:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: [INAUDIBLE] [MICROPHONE NOT ON]
11:24:34AM I'M SORRY.
11:24:34AM I USED TO HAVE A LAVALIER MICROPHONE.
11:24:39AM LET'S TRY IT AGAIN.
11:24:40AM MY SUGGESTION IS WITHOUT KNOWING WHEN COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON
11:24:45AM WOULD BE BACK, IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A HEARING CONTINUITY
11:24:48AM WITH A CONTINUANCE TO A DATE AND TIME AND LOCATION CERTAIN
11:24:53AM SO THAT THE PUBLIC WHO IS WATCHING THIS OR IS PARTICIPATING
11:24:56AM OR IS A PARTY TO IT KNOWS WHEN TO COME BACK AND WHEN IT IS
11:25:00AM DONE.
11:25:01AM WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS WILL BE HEARD AGAIN, IF IT WILL BE
11:25:04AM HEARD AGAIN.
11:25:04AM THE LATER ON IN THE DAY, UNLESS IT'S SOMETHING YOU WOULD
11:25:08AM LIKE TO WISH TO HAVE -- REMAIN OPEN UNTIL THE END OF THE
11:25:12AM DAY.
11:25:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO REOPEN THIS ITEM.
11:25:15AM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:25:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.

11:25:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. RICE, NOW KNOWING WHAT YOU KNOW WITH A
11:25:23AM 3-3 TIE, WHAT IS YOUR PLEASURE WITH REGARD TO WHETHER THIS
11:25:29AM COMES BACK AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING PER THE COUNCIL'S
11:25:34AM RULES?
11:25:34AM OR YOU CAN, IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION, ALLOW IT TO COME
11:25:39AM BACK TOWARDS THE END OF THE DAY AND SEE --
11:25:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S COME TO MY KNOWLEDGE HERE THAT
11:25:45AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON WILL NOT BE RETURNING TODAY.
11:25:48AM I WOULD RECOMMEND TAKING THE MARCH 7 REGULARLY SCHEDULED
11:25:53AM CITY COUNCIL MEETING JUST SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A
11:25:56AM FAIR HEARING AND A FULL COUNCIL.
11:25:58AM YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND YOUR MICROPHONE, SIR.
11:26:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY, CAN WE PUT THAT NUMBER ONE ON
11:26:04AM THE AGENDA SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE DELAYED AGAIN.
11:26:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DO THAT RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT
11:26:08AM THAT WE TAKE YOUR ITEM OUT OF PROFESSIONAL COURTESY.
11:26:13AM IF THAT'S OKAY, WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
11:26:16AM MR. SHELBY, DO I LEAVE THE HEARING OPEN AT THIS TIME.
11:26:19AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOW IT IS A MOTION TO CONTINUE IT.
11:26:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CONTINUE?
11:26:22AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:26:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: FEBRUARY 16 --
11:26:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE DON'T HAVE A REGULAR MEETING.
11:26:32AM WE HAVE A WORKSHOP AND WORKSHOP.
11:26:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CONTINUE.

11:26:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE'LL DO A MOTION TO CONTINUE TO MARCH 7
11:26:41AM PLACED FIRST ON THE AGENDA RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:26:45AM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN MADE THE MOTION.
11:26:46AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:26:48AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:26:49AM AYE.
11:26:49AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, THE DATE AND TIME AND PLACE.
11:26:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MARCH 7 RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT,
11:26:54AM WHICH WE COULD SAY 9:30 A.M.
11:26:57AM 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602, THIRD
11:27:01AM FLOOR.
11:27:02AM >> THANK YOU.
11:27:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT ABOUT 48?
11:27:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN WILL BE LEAVING
11:27:09AM IN A FEW MINUTES AND WILL BE COMING BACK AFTER LUNCH.
11:27:12AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON WILL NOT BE HERE FOR THE REST OF THE DAY.
11:27:15AM THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR CASE.
11:27:17AM MS. JOHNSON VELEZ, IF YOU WOULD CLARIFY FOR 48.
11:27:25AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:27:27AM ITEM 48 WAS CONTINUED TO THIS AGENDA DUE TO A TIE VOTE FROM
11:27:31AM COUNCIL.
11:27:31AM WE THINK IT'S BEST IF WE HAVE A FULL COUNCIL FOR THAT VOTE.
11:27:35AM I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE APPLICANT WHO IS HERE WHO WOULD AGREE
11:27:39AM WITH THE CONTINUANCE TO THE MARCH 7 DATE.
11:27:42AM SHE CAN CONFIRM THAT.

11:27:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:27:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I ALSO SAY TO ASK THAT THIS ONE BE PUT
11:27:48AM DIRECTLY AFTER THE ONE WE JUST -- RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC
11:27:52AM COMMENT.
11:27:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 9:30 A.M. AFTER -- THIS WOULD BE FOR
11:27:57AM MARCH 7, 2024, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR,
11:28:02AM TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602, DIRECTLY AFTER THE PREVIOUS HEARING,
11:28:11AM WHICH WAS ITEM NUMBER 45.
11:28:13AM IT WILL BE SECOND AFTER THAT, RIGHT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:28:16AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT?
11:28:17AM MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:28:19AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:28:20AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:28:21AM AYE.
11:28:22AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:28:23AM SO THAT BRINGS US TO ITEM NUMBER 47, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
11:28:29AM FIVE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:28:32AM WITH ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER RETURNING AFTER LUNCH.
11:28:34AM CAN WE PERHAPS VISIT 47 WHEN WE RETURN FROM LUNCH SO WE AT
11:28:40AM LEAST HAVE SIX MEMBERS?
11:28:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SHOULD WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AND SEE IF
11:28:46AM THEY WANT A FULL COUNCIL?
11:28:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO IS THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE?
11:28:50AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS
11:28:52AM COMING FORWARD NOW.

11:28:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
11:28:54AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:28:55AM >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
11:28:57AM I AM THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT.
11:29:01AM I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE IF WE HEAR IT NOW AND THERE'S ONLY
11:29:04AM FIVE OF YOU AND THE VOTE IS 3-2 AGAINST, I DON'T KNOW, DO
11:29:09AM THE REST OF THE PEOPLE VOTE, WHAT HAPPENS?
11:29:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WOULD DIE.
11:29:13AM >> MY THING WOULD LOSE BECAUSE IT WOULD DIE.
11:29:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF IT BECOMES 3-2, 4-1 AGAINST.
11:29:22AM >> PARDON?
11:29:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
11:29:26AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF IT'S LESS THAN FOUR VOTES, IF A MOTION
11:29:29AM IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER FAILS TO RECEIVE AT LEAST FOUR
11:29:33AM VOTES, THE MOTION FAILS.
11:29:35AM IF ANOTHER MOTION IN ORDER IS NOT MADE, LIKE IN THIS CASE A
11:29:38AM MOTION TO CONTINUE, THE PUBLIC HEARING SHALL BE
11:29:41AM AUTOMATICALLY REOPENED AND CONTINUED TO A TIME CERTAIN AT
11:29:43AM THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING.
11:29:45AM WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS THE ABSENT MEMBERS WOULD THEN BE
11:29:48AM RESPONSIBLE FOR REVIEWING THE RECORD AND VIEWING THE HEARING
11:29:52AM AND THEN COMING BACK AND IT WOULD BE OPENED ONLY FOR THE
11:29:55AM PURPOSES OF HAVING QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
11:29:57AM THE HEARING WOULD THEN BE CLOSED AND A VOTE THEN TAKEN.
11:30:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIX VOTES, COULD BE A 3-3 VOTE AND COULD

11:30:04AM DIE THERE.
11:30:05AM >> I THOUGHT IF IT WAS A 3-3 VOTE, DOESN'T THE ABSENT
11:30:09AM COUNCIL PERSON GET TO VOTE AT A LATER DATE IF IT IS A TIE?
11:30:13AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT COMES BACK.
11:30:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WOULD COME BACK WHEN THERE IS A FULL
11:30:16AM COUNCIL FOR REVOTE AND THEN YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A
11:30:19AM 4-3.
11:30:20AM >> IF THERE'S ONLY FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND IT IS A 3-2
11:30:24AM VOTE, DOES IT COME BACK WHEN A FULL COUNCIL OR DEAD?
11:30:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, IT'S NOT -- WELL, IT DEPENDS.
11:30:32AM IF A MOTION TO AFFIRM A DECISION FAILS ON A 3-2 VOTE,
11:30:39AM ANOTHER MOTION TO CONTINUE IT COULD BE IN ORDER OR A MOTION
11:30:42AM TO DENY COULD BE IN ORDER.
11:30:44AM WHATEVER MOTION TAKES THE FIRST VOTE OF 4 IS WHAT -- THE
11:30:50AM COUNCIL'S ACTION THAT THEY TAKE ON THE ITEM.
11:30:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS THE
11:30:57AM CHANCE TO HEAR IT AT A LATER DATE IF WE DON'T HAVE A FULL
11:31:00AM COUNCIL.
11:31:01AM IS THAT CORRECT, MR. SHELBY?
11:31:02AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IT SAYS THIS.
11:31:06AM IF AT A QUASI-JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARING ONLY FOUR MEMBERS OF
11:31:09AM COUNCIL ARE AVAILABLE TO TAKE ACTION, THEN THE PETITIONER
11:31:12AM SHALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE THE MATTER UNTIL THERE IS A
11:31:14AM MINIMUM OF FIVE MEMBERS.
11:31:17AM IF THERE IS LESS THAN A FULL COUNCIL, THEN A PETITIONER MAY

11:31:21AM REQUEST TO CONTINUE A MATTER, BUT IT WILL NOT BE AS A MATTER
11:31:24AM OF RIGHT.
11:31:25AM IF THERE'S ONLY FOUR MEMBERS AND THEY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE,
11:31:28AM THAT IS GRANTED AS A MATTER OF RIGHT.
11:31:29AM BUT AS LONG AS THERE ARE FIVE MEMBERS, THEN THE PETITIONER
11:31:33AM MAY STILL REQUEST IT BUT IT IS ULTIMATELY COUNCIL'S DECISION
11:31:37AM AS TO WHETHER TO GRANT THAT REQUEST.
11:31:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION?
11:31:40AM I'M SPEAKING TO A GROUP OF STUDENTS AT THE CUBAN CLUB AT
11:31:43AM NOON.
11:31:44AM I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT WILL LAST BUT I'M SURE I WILL BE
11:31:46AM BACK HERE BY 1.
11:31:48AM IF WE TAKE AN EARLY LUNCH, I WILL GET IT BACK HERE AS FAST
11:31:53AM AS I CAN.
11:31:53AM >> IF THERE WILL BE SIX OF YOU AFTER LUNCH AND 3-3 TIE MEANS
11:31:58AM AN OPPORTUNITY WILL BE GRANTED IN THE FUTURE FOR COUNCILMAN
11:32:01AM CARLSON TO VOTE, THEN I'M WILLING TO PROCEED AFTER LUNCH.
11:32:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
11:32:07AM WAIT.
11:32:08AM IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ALLOW THE GENTLEMAN IN THE BACK TO
11:32:10AM SPEAK, MR. SHELBY, SINCE THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S
11:32:13AM REPRESENTATIVE?
11:32:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS THE PROPERTY OWNER.
11:32:17AM >> OF THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION UNDER REVIEW.
11:32:20AM >> I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT.

11:32:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU THE PROPERTY -- MAY YOU STEP
11:32:25AM FORWARD, PLEASE, SIR?
11:32:29AM >> JUSTIN HOUSTON.
11:32:33AM 2802 WEST BAY AVENUE.
11:32:35AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU THE PROPERTY OWNER?
11:32:37AM >> I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
11:32:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HEARD THE SITUATION RELATIVE TO THIS.
11:32:40AM DO YOU HAVE A POSITION?
11:32:42AM >> I DO HAVE A POSITION.
11:32:43AM I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY.
11:32:44AM I AM A TEACHER.
11:32:45AM I GET TWO PERSONAL DAYS A YEAR.
11:32:47AM I JUST USED ONE.
11:32:48AM I LEFT MY DAUGHTER'S SIXTH GRADE PLAY EARLY THIS MORNING TO
11:32:51AM BE HERE BECAUSE OF HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS.
11:32:56AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU'RE ASKING IT TO BE HEARD TODAY.
11:32:58AM >> YES, SIR.
11:32:59AM I ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO BACK TO WORK AFTER LUNCH.
11:33:02AM I WOULD HAVE TO USE MORE TIME TO GET HERE.
11:33:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU'RE IN GOOD HANDS WITH THE APPLICANT
11:33:08AM REPRESENTATIVE.
11:33:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S THE OPPOSITION.
11:33:11AM >> WE'RE OPPOSING EACH OTHER'S VIEW.
11:33:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I RETRACT THAT COMMENT.
11:33:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT BEING THE CASE, SIR, WHAT IS YOUR

11:33:30AM PLEASURE?
11:33:31AM >> MY PLEASURE IS TO PROCEED NOW, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
11:33:35AM I KNOW THIS IS A HARDSHIP ON CITY COUNCIL, AND I APOLOGIZE
11:33:38AM FOR THAT.
11:33:38AM I GUESS I'M STUCK AT THIS POINT.
11:33:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A TEACHER HERE WHO IS TAKING A DAY
11:33:49AM OFF.
11:33:49AM WE CAN HEAR FROM THE OTHER SIDE, BUT I'M FINE WITH
11:33:52AM PROCEEDING NOW.
11:33:58AM I THINK THAT IS THE COURTEOUS THING TO DO.
11:34:00AM IF WE HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH VOTE --
11:34:03AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: MS. BENNETT REPRESENTS THE PETITIONER
11:34:05AM IN THIS CASE.
11:34:06AM IT'S A REVIEW HEARING.
11:34:10AM [INAUDIBLE]
11:34:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: IT MAY NEED TO BE -- I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE
11:34:20AM VOTES ARE GOING TO FALL ON THIS, BUT IT MAY BE THAT IT COMES
11:34:23AM BACK AFTER LUNCH AND YOU TAKE THE RISK THAT YOU HAVE TO
11:34:25AM RETURN BACK TO WORK.
11:34:26AM I'M FINE WHICHEVER WAY.
11:34:33AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: QUESTION FOR COUNCIL.
11:34:34AM WILL YOU BE PREPARED TO WORK THROUGH LUNCH?
11:34:38AM DO YOU STILL INTEND TO TAKE A LUNCH?
11:34:41AM WILL YOU BREAK THE HEARING FOR LUNCH OR TAKE THIS THROUGH TO
11:34:44AM COMPLETION AND THEN TAKE LUNCH?

11:34:45AM DON'T KNOW.
11:34:48AM OKAY.
11:34:54AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WILLING WORK THROUGH LUNCH, BREAKFAST,
11:34:57AM THE NEXT DAY --
11:34:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M FINE WITH WORKING FORWARD.
11:35:01AM AGAIN, THIS IS NOT OUR DECISION.
11:35:03AM THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S DECISION RIGHT NOW AS TO -- WHAT THE
11:35:09AM APPLICANT WANTS TO DO.
11:35:11AM LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
11:35:13AM >> MS. JOHNSON VELEZ SAID THAT AS I AM THE PETITIONER.
11:35:16AM I'LL TELL YOU WHAT MY CONCERN IS RIGHT NOW.
11:35:18AM IF THE VOTE IS 3-2 AGAINST MY PETITION, I'M DONE.
11:35:23AM WHEREAS THE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT AREN'T PRESENT MIGHT
11:35:26AM HAVE VOTED TO MAKE IT 4-3 AND I WOULD HAVE WON.
11:35:31AM A 3-3, I STILL GET THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE FOURTH VOTE.
11:35:35AM SO THAT'S MY CONCERN IS THAT BY ALLOWING IT TO GO AHEAD WITH
11:35:41AM ONLY FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M DEAD IN THE WATER WITHOUT
11:35:43AM HAVING A HEARING OF THE FULL COUNCIL.
11:35:46AM IF YOU WANT TO HEAR IT NOW AND IF IT'S 3-2, IF YOU CAN
11:35:52AM GUARANTEE ME THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE IT SO THAT THE OTHER TWO
11:35:55AM CAN VIEW THE RECORDING AND VOTE.
11:35:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN'T GUARANTEE.
11:35:58AM WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE EVIDENCE.
11:35:59AM >> THEN I'M RISKING LOSING EVERYTHING AND I'VE PUT A LOT OF
11:36:02AM TIME AND MONEY INTO THIS.

11:36:07AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A 3-2 DOES NOT FAIL ON THIS CASE.
11:36:13AM A QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTER, IN ORDER FOR A DECISION TO BE MADE
11:36:16AM ON A DEVELOPMENT ORDER REQUIRES PER THE CHARTER FOUR VOTES
11:36:21AM FOR COUNCIL TO TAKE ACTION.
11:36:23AM IF IT ONLY GETS THREE VOTES, COUNCIL HAS NOT TAKEN AN ACTION
11:36:27AM WHETHER TO AFFIRM OR DENY.
11:36:28AM SO WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT CASE IS THE HEARING IS AUTOMATICALLY
11:36:31AM REOPENED FOR COUNCIL'S RULES AND IT'S BROUGHT BACK TO THE
11:36:34AM NEXT REGULAR MEETING AT WHICH TIME BETWEEN THAT TIME AND THE
11:36:38AM TIME OF THE HEARING, THE ABSENT MEMBERS REVIEW THE RECORD
11:36:42AM AND COME BACK PREPARED TO VOTE AND THEN THE MOTION IS TO
11:36:46AM CLOSE THE HEARING, READ THE TITLE AGAIN AND THEN THE FULL
11:36:49AM COUNCIL VOTES.
11:36:50AM THAT IS WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
11:36:52AM A 3-2 DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU'RE DENIED THE OPPORTUNITY OF
11:36:57AM THE OTHER TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS EITHER AFFIRMING IT OR DENYING
11:37:01AM IT.
11:37:02AM >> ALL RIGHT.
11:37:03AM THEN I'M READY TO CONTINUE.
11:37:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD WITH TODAY'S
11:37:07AM HEARING.
11:37:07AM >> UM-HUM.
11:37:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH COUNCIL?
11:37:10AM LET'S BEGIN.
11:37:11AM ITEM NUMBER 47, EVERYBODY HAS BEEN SWORN IN.

11:37:14AM GO AHEAD.
11:37:36AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: GOOD MORNING AGAIN, COUNCIL.
11:37:38AM SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:37:40AM ITEM NUMBER 47 IS A PETITION FOR REVIEW OF VARIANCE REVIEW
11:37:44AM BOARD CASE 23-55.
11:37:47AM THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 2802 WEST BAY AVENUE.
11:37:51AM THE ORIGINAL APPLICANT FOR THIS VRB APPLICATION WERE JUSTINE
11:37:56AM -- SORRY, JUSTIN AND CHRISTINE HOUSTON.
11:38:00AM THE REQUEST WAS TO REMOVE TWO GRAND OAKS FOR A GARAGE AND
11:38:04AM HOME ADDITION.
11:38:06AM THERE WAS A HEARING BEFORE THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD BACK IN
11:38:09AM OCTOBER.
11:38:10AM AND VRB -- WELL, BEFORE THE BOARD, THE APPLICANT CITED THE
11:38:16AM FOLLOWING AS A BASIS FOR HARDSHIP.
11:38:18AM I WANTED TO REMIND COUNCIL, KEEP IN MIND WHEN SOMEONE ASKS
11:38:21AM FOR A VARIANCE, THEY ARE ASKING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S NOT
11:38:24AM ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE.
11:38:26AM SO YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT THERE IS A HARDSHIP IN ORDER TO
11:38:30AM GRANT THE VARIANCE.
11:38:31AM THAT IS A THRESHOLD QUESTION FOR THE VRB TO CONSIDER AND FOR
11:38:36AM COUNCIL TO CONSIDER IN YOUR REVIEW.
11:38:39AM THE APPLICANT CITED THE FOLLOWING AS BASIS FOR HARDSHIP IN
11:38:42AM ITS APPLICATION.
11:38:43AM AN INCREASE IN CRIME AND THE NEED FOR SECURITY, THE BENEFIT
11:38:46AM OF HAVING A GARAGE IN BAD WEATHER, AND ALSO DECREASE IN THE

11:38:49AM CHANCE OF SLIP AND FALLS WHILE TRYING TO AVOID INCLEMENT
11:38:53AM WEATHER WHILE BRINGING CHILDREN INTO THEIR HOME.
11:38:57AM NATURAL RESOURCES STAFF FOR THE CITY FOUND THE REQUEST
11:38:59AM INCONSISTENT BECAUSE THE PROPOSED ADDITIONS TO THE PROPERTY
11:39:03AM COULD BE REASONABLY RECONFIGURED WHILE PRESERVING THE TWO
11:39:06AM TREES THAT ARE SOUGHT FOR REMOVAL.
11:39:08AM AGAIN, THE VRB DETERMINED THAT THE REQUEST INDEED WAS
11:39:14AM SUPPORTED BY THE CODE AND MET THE CRITERIA FOR GRANTING A
11:39:18AM VARIANCE.
11:39:19AM BUT THE VOTE WAS 4-2.
11:39:21AM IT WAS NOT A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
11:39:23AM IT WAS 4-2 VOTE FOR APPROVAL AND THE PETITIONER, M.C.
11:39:27AM GRAHAM, BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING, BROUGHT THE PETITION TO
11:39:30AM CHALLENGE THE APPROVAL BY THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD WHICH
11:39:33AM WOULD ALLOW FOR THE REMOVAL OF THESE TWO TREES.
11:39:36AM I JUST PASSED OUT PACKETS OF INFORMATION TO COUNCIL THAT
11:39:40AM PROVIDES RULES OF PROCEDURE WHICH HAVE BOTH BEEN PROVIDED TO
11:39:43AM BOTH THE PETITIONER WHO IS REPRESENTED BY MS. BENNETT AND
11:39:46AM ALSO MR. HOUSTON, AND THEY HAVE AGREED TO THE PROCEDURES SET
11:39:51AM FORTH BEFORE YOU.
11:39:52AM I ALSO PROVIDED RELEVANT SECTIONS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE,
11:39:56AM SECTION 27-80, WHICH PROVIDES THE APPLICATION OF THE
11:40:02AM VARIANCE POWER AND PROVIDES THE FIVE CRITERIA THAT THE
11:40:06AM VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD AND WHICH COUNCIL SHOULD CONSIDER IN
11:40:08AM REVIEWING THIS APPLICATION.

11:40:10AM THE SECOND CODE SECTION ACTUALLY PROVIDED JUST THE RELEVANT
11:40:14AM PORTION OF IT.
11:40:15AM CODE SECTION 27-61-J-2.
11:40:19AM YOU'LL SEE THE NUMBER IS NOT ON THE TOP OF THE PAGE, BUT IT
11:40:22AM IS THE THIRD HANDOUT IN YOUR PACKET AND TWO IN PARENTHESES,
11:40:26AM REVIEW OF BOARD DECISION, AND THAT IS THE START OF THE
11:40:30AM RELEVANT CODE SECTION THERE.
11:40:32AM AND THEN CODE SECTION 27-284.2.5, WHICH IS THE CODE SECTION
11:40:38AM THAT GOVERNS PERMITS FOR GRAND TREE REMOVAL.
11:40:41AM IN THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR MATTERS UNDER SECTION
11:40:49AM 27-61-J-2 IS DE NOVO.
11:40:52AM COUNCIL MAY ACCEPT NEW EVIDENCE, TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND
11:40:56AM THEN DETERMINE WHETHER THE APPLICANT HAS SHOWN THAT IN THIS
11:41:00AM CASE THE VARIANCE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DENIED BECAUSE OF FAILURE
11:41:03AM TO MEET THE CRITERIA FOR GRANTING A VARIANCE.
11:41:06AM CITY STAFF HERE WITH ME THIS MORNING, MR. STEVEN EYSTER, THE
11:41:11AM FOREST EXAMINER FOR THE CITY, AND HE WILL PROVIDE AN
11:41:15AM OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION AND THE REASONS FOR HIS FINDING
11:41:18AM OF INCONSISTENCY.
11:41:20AM AND THEN I WILL COME BACK AT THE END OF THE HEARING TO
11:41:25AM DESCRIBE COUNCIL'S POSSIBLE ACTIONS AFTER HEARING EVIDENCE.
11:41:28AM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE NOW PROCEDURALLY
11:41:30AM OR OTHERWISE.
11:41:32AM OTHERWISE, I WILL ASK MS. BENNETT TO COME FORWARD.
11:41:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?

11:41:35AM NO.
11:41:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:41:36AM YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
11:41:37AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE COULD TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
11:41:39AM RECEIVE AND FILE ALL THE WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION, EX PARTE
11:41:43AM COMMUNICATIONS.
11:41:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:41:44AM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
11:41:46AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:41:47AM AYE.
11:41:48AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:41:48AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:41:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANY EX PARTE VERBAL COMMUNICATIONS, PLEASE
11:41:55AM DISCLOSE THEM.
11:41:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:41:57AM MR. VIERA, I'LL HAND THIS OFF.
11:41:59AM USE THE RESTROOM.
11:42:00AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: MR. EYSTER WILL PRESENT HIS REPORT
11:42:05AM FIRST AND FINDINGS.
11:42:08AM >> HELLO.
11:42:09AM I AM STEVEN EYSTER WITH NATURAL RESOURCES.
11:42:12AM FOREST EXAMINER FOR THIS PETITION.
11:42:14AM I DID SUBMIT A PowerPoint, IF WE CAN PULL THAT UP.
11:42:17AM IF NOT, I HAVE IT ON A FLASH DRIVE.
11:42:43AM >> FOR THE PUBLIC, THEY ARE PUTTING IN THE PowerPoint.

11:42:45AM TAKE ABOUT A MINUTE.
11:42:47AM >> WHILE THEY ARE DOING THAT, I SHOWED UP AFTER THE SWEARING
11:42:50AM IN.
11:42:50AM SO I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN.
11:42:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU DON'T MIND, BE READY.
11:42:57AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
11:43:01AM >> I DO.
11:43:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE WE GO, I THINK.
11:43:42AM >>STEVE EYSTER: ALL RIGHT.
11:43:44AM LET'S GET STARTED.
11:43:45AM SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A QUICK RUN-DOWN FOR WHAT WAS
11:43:52AM PRESENTED DURING THE VRB CASE ORIGINALLY IN OCTOBER.
11:44:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE IS A CLICKER FOR YOU.
11:44:04AM >>STEVE EYSTER: SO THE ORIGINAL CASE VRB 23-55.
11:44:08AM THIS COVERS THE INFORMATION SUSAN WENT OVER.
11:44:13AM THERE WAS THE ORIGINAL VOTE IN OCTOBER, 4-2.
11:44:18AM THIS IS A MAP OF THE SITE.
11:44:19AM AS YOU CAN SEE, RS 50 LOT.
11:44:22AM THIS LOT IS LARGER THAN NORMAL.
11:44:24AM IT'S APPROXIMATELY 70 BY 200.
11:44:27AM THESE ARE THE TWO GRAND TREES IN QUESTION, SO GRAND TREE,
11:44:32AM THEY ARE CONNECTED AT THE BASE.
11:44:35AM KIND OF LIKE AN ALL OR NOTHING SITUATION.
11:44:38AM GRAND TREE ONE, BOTH LIVE OAKS.
11:44:40AM ONE MEASURES 47 INCHES.

11:44:42AM ONE MEASURES 42 INCHES.
11:44:44AM THEY ARE BOTH RATED C-8 WITH MITIGATION VALUES OF 3 AND 4.
11:44:51AM THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE TREES.
11:44:53AM SO AS YOU GUYS LOOK AT THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT, THAT IS A
11:44:59AM FAR-OUT PHOTO OF HOW THE TREES ARE INTERACTING WITH THE
11:45:02AM HOUSE CURRENTLY.
11:45:03AM ON THE RIGHT SIDE IS A CLOSE-UP.
11:45:06AM YOU CAN SEE THE TWO TRUNKS, ONE THAT LEANS TOWARD THE HOME
11:45:09AM AND THE ONE THAT IS MORE UPRIGHT.
11:45:13AM THIS IS THE SITE AS IT CURRENTLY EXISTS.
11:45:15AM YOU CAN SEE THE TWO STORY HOME AND THEN THE DRIVEWAY AND
11:45:18AM TREES ARE OFF TO THAT RIGHT SIDE.
11:45:20AM 42 AND 43 SHOWN ON THE SURVEY.
11:45:22AM THIS IS OPTION ONE.
11:45:24AM THIS IS THE PROPOSED PLAN THAT INCLUDES A TWO-STORY GARAGE
11:45:31AM AND AN ADDITION TO THE REAR.
11:45:32AM THE TREES ARE LOCATED IN THAT FRONT RIGHT CORNER.
11:45:36AM AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY FALL WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE
11:45:40AM GARAGE.
11:45:41AM THIS IS ALTERNATIVE SITE PLAN ONE, WHICH SHOWS NO GARAGE,
11:45:46AM BUT THE ADDITION COULD BE COMPLETED AND THE TREES ARE
11:45:50AM PRESERVED.
11:45:50AM THIS IS ALTERNATIVE TWO, WHICH PUSHES THE GARAGE EVEN BACK
11:45:56AM TO WHERE THE ADDITION WAS AND THEN THE DRIVEWAY WOULD BE
11:46:00AM EXTENDED OUT WITH THE ADDITION TO THE REAR OF THAT.

11:46:04AM THESE ARE THINGS TO CONSIDER WHEN EVALUATING A TREE REMOVAL
11:46:11AM VARIANCE.
11:46:12AM SOME OF THE THINGS INCLUDED IN MY STAFF REPORT WERE OPTION
11:46:16AM TWO AND THREE PRESERVE THE GRAND TREES ON-SITE.
11:46:20AM OPTION TWO DOES NOT MEET THE OBJECTIVES OF THE PROPERTY
11:46:23AM OWNER.
11:46:24AM OPTION THREE SHIFTS THE GARAGE AND THE ROOM ADDITION OUT OF
11:46:27AM THE PROTECTIVE RADII OF THE GRAND OAKS.
11:46:30AM AND THIS WOULD REQUIRE THE DRIVEWAY TO BE EXPANDED USING
11:46:33AM IMPERVIOUS MATERIAL INSTALLED ON GRADE.
11:46:35AM AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS TO EXPLORE, I ASKED THE
11:46:40AM APPLICANT TO MAYBE EXPLORE THE OPTIONS OF A PORTE-COCHERE
11:46:43AM WHICH WOULD LESSEN THE IMPACTS TO THE TREES BUT STILL
11:46:46AM PROVIDE A COVER.
11:46:49AM THIS WOULD REDUCE THE IMPACTS TO THE TREES BUT OVERALL
11:46:53AM DOESN'T PROVIDE THE SECURE CLOSED GARAGE.
11:46:58AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AT ANY POINT.
11:47:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR, I WAS WATCHING YOUR TESTIMONY IN
11:47:04AM THE BACK.
11:47:05AM TWO TREES IN QUESTION?
11:47:06AM >>STEVE EYSTER: TWO GRAND TREES IN QUESTION THAT ARE
11:47:09AM CONNECTED AT THE BASE.
11:47:10AM I HAVE SOME PHOTOS, TOO.
11:47:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DID YOU MENTION IF THIS IS AN
11:47:14AM APPROPRIATE QUESTION, HOW OLD THOSE TREES ARE?

11:47:16AM >>STEVE EYSTER: I CANNOT GIVE YOU AN AGE ON THE TREES.
11:47:20AM THE BEST WAY TO AGE A TREE IS AFTER IT'S BEEN REMOVED.
11:47:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, OBVIOUSLY.
11:47:29AM >>STEVE EYSTER: AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE ARE THE TWO GRAND
11:47:31AM TREES IN QUESTION.
11:47:32AM IF YOU LOOK TOWARDS THE BOTTOM THERE, RIGHT THERE, YOU CAN
11:47:39AM SEE THEY ARE CONNECTED AT THE BASE.
11:47:41AM SO IT'S KIND OF, YOU CAN'T TAKE ONE WITHOUT COMPROMISING THE
11:47:46AM OTHER.
11:47:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEY COULD BE A CENTURY OLD BUT WE DON'T
11:47:49AM KNOW.
11:47:50AM COULD BE 50.
11:47:51AM COULD BE 25.
11:47:52AM THAT QUESTION HAS NO BASIS THEN.
11:47:56AM JUST A GENERALITY.
11:47:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:47:58AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS?
11:48:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN?
11:48:15AM >>STEVE EYSTER: THIS IS ALTERNATIVE SITE PLAN 2.
11:48:18AM YOU CAN SEE THE GARAGE AND THE WHOLE ADDITION HAS BEEN
11:48:21AM SHIFTED BACK TO THE REAR -- MORE TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE
11:48:26AM PROPERTY.
11:48:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS ONE?
11:48:30AM >>STEVE EYSTER: I DIDN'T SEE A PROBLEM.
11:48:32AM THAT'S WHY I WAS INCONSISTENT --

11:48:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APOLOGIZE.
11:48:35AM >>STEVE EYSTER: NO, YOU'RE GOOD.
11:48:37AM THIS IS ALTERNATIVE SITE PLAN TWO WHICH SHOWS THE ADDITION
11:48:41AM WITHOUT THE GARAGE.
11:48:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS WAS ALSO ACCEPTABLE.
11:48:47AM >>STEVE EYSTER: YES.
11:48:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:48:49AM THAT'S WHERE I MISUNDERSTOOD.
11:48:50AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:48:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:48:57AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
11:49:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT.
11:49:14AM WE NEED YOU AT THE MICROPHONE.
11:49:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MS. JOHNSON VELEZ, WHAT?
11:49:20AM YOU WOULD LIKE ONE OF THESE.
11:49:22AM CERTAINLY.
11:49:22AM DOES THE PROPERTY OWNER WISH TO HAVE A COPY AS WELL?
11:49:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:49:55AM YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
11:50:03AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:50:05AM YOU ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR M.C. GRAHAM?
11:50:12AM >> YES.
11:50:14AM MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
11:50:15AM REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AUTHORIZED AGENT FOR M.C. GRAHAM.
11:50:18AM HE REFERRED TO SITE PLAN ONE, TWO, THREE.

11:50:21AM I LABEL THEM A, B, C.
11:50:24AM SAME THING.
11:50:24AM FIRST PAGE IS A BLOWUP BECAUSE THE FULL SITE PLAN IS SO HARD
11:50:29AM TO SEE.
11:50:29AM AS I SAID, MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
11:50:33AM THERE WAS A VRB WORKSHOP TWO DAYS AGO.
11:50:38AM IT WAS VERY HELPFUL IN CLARIFYING WHAT MUST BE LEGALLY
11:50:41AM CONSIDERED FOR THE APPROVAL OF A VARIANCE.
11:50:43AM CITY ATTORNEY SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ EXPLAINED IT PLAINLY.
11:50:47AM THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT TO JUSTIFY A VARIANCE IS THAT THERE IS
11:50:51AM SOMETHING SO UNIQUE ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT IT CREATES A
11:50:55AM HARDSHIP THAT PROHIBITS REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY.
11:50:58AM REASONABLE USE.
11:51:00AM NOT EVERY CONCEIVABLE USE WITHOUT LIMITS -- REASONABLE USE.
11:51:04AM SHE ACTUALLY USED THE LACK OF A GARAGE AS A SPECIFIC
11:51:09AM EXAMPLE.
11:51:09AM SHE SAID, IF YOU BUY A HOUSE WITHOUT A GARAGE, YOU CANNOT
11:51:14AM SAY MY HARDSHIP IS I DON'T HAVE A GARAGE.
11:51:17AM SHE EXPLAINED THAT THE CASE LAW FOR VARIANCES IS THAT THERE
11:51:22AM MUST BE SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT THE PROPERTY, NOT THE
11:51:25AM OCCUPANT OF THE PROPERTY.
11:51:27AM IF SOMEONE FEELS THEY MUST HAVE A GARAGE THAT IS UNIQUE TO
11:51:30AM THEM AND THEY NEED TO BUY A HOUSE WITH A GARAGE OR BUY A LOT
11:51:34AM WHERE THEY CAN BUILD A GARAGE WITHOUT A VARIANCE.
11:51:37AM SHE ACTUALLY SAID THAT.

11:51:39AM THE LACK OF A GARAGE AND THE TWO GRAND TREES ARE A
11:51:42AM CIRCUMSTANCE OF THE PROPERTY, NOT A UNIQUE HARDSHIP OF THE
11:51:46AM PROPERTY.
11:51:46AM THE LACK OF A GARAGE DOES NOT MEET THE LEGAL STANDARD OF
11:51:50AM PROHIBITING REASONABLE USE.
11:51:52AM NO ONE IS OWED A GARAGE.
11:51:56AM MS. JOHNSON VELEZ FURTHER EXPLAINED THAT IF SOMEONE BUYS A
11:51:59AM HOUSE AND THEN SAYS, NOW I WANT A POOL, PATIO, OR GARAGE,
11:52:03AM CRAMMING AS MUCH AS YOU WANT ON THAT PROPERTY IS NOT
11:52:06AM REASONABLE USE.
11:52:07AM IT IS IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THIS DISTINCTION.
11:52:10AM MS. JOHNSON VELEZ SAID IT IS ALWAYS THE APPLICANT'S BURDEN
11:52:14AM TO PROVE THAT IT IS NOT A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP THAT IS
11:52:17AM PROHIBITING REASONABLE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY.
11:52:20AM SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP THAT IS PROHIBITING REASONABLE USE OF
11:52:25AM THEIR PROPERTY.
11:52:26AM MR. HOUSTON BOUGHT A LOT WITH TWO GRAND TREES AND NO GARAGE.
11:52:31AM NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE HE BOUGHT THE LOT.
11:52:34AM IF THOSE FACTS ARE CREATING A HARDSHIP PROHIBITING
11:52:36AM REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY, IT IS A SELF-CREATED
11:52:38AM HARDSHIP.
11:52:39AM MR. HOUSTON HAS LIVED THERE FOR FIVE AND A HALF YEARS.
11:52:43AM THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1992.
11:52:45AM PEOPLE HAVE LIVED IN THIS HOUSE FOR THE LAST 32 YEARS.
11:52:49AM THAT IS 32 YEARS OF DEMONSTRATED REASONABLE USE OF THIS

11:52:55AM PROPERTY.
11:52:55AM MR. HOUSTON HAS SAID HE MUST HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE TO FEEL
11:53:01AM SAFE.
11:53:01AM THIS MAP SHOWS ONE YEAR'S WORTH OF CRIME.
11:53:04AM THIS IS HIS HOUSE.
11:53:06AM I WOULD ARGUE THAT THIS MAP SHOWS VERY LITTLE CRIME.
11:53:09AM I HAVE NEVER IN MY ENTIRE LIFE LIVED IN A HOUSE WITH A
11:53:13AM GARAGE AND I HAVE ALWAYS FELT SAFE IN TAMPA.
11:53:16AM BUT THIS MAP ASIDE, I'M NOT GOING TO TELL MR. HOUSTON HOW TO
11:53:21AM FEEL.
11:53:22AM IF HE FEELS UNSAFE WITHOUT A TWO CAR GARAGE, THEN THAT'S HOW
11:53:25AM HE FEELS.
11:53:26AM BUT THAT MAKES IT A PERSONAL REQUIREMENT FOR HIM AND LEGALLY
11:53:29AM A VARIANCE CANNOT BE GRANTED DUE TO A PERSONAL DESIRE OF THE
11:53:32AM CURRENT OWNER.
11:53:33AM CASE LAW IS CLEAR THAT A HARDSHIP MUST BE SOMETHING UNIQUE
11:53:36AM TO THE PROPERTY, NOT THE OCCUPANT.
11:53:39AM IF THE LOT IS NOT BIG ENOUGH TO FULFILL WHATEVER THE OWNER
11:53:42AM FEELS HE NEEDS, THEN HE NEEDS TO BUY A BIGGER LOT.
11:53:46AM NO ONE IS OWED A POOL.
11:53:47AM NO ONE IS OWED A GARAGE.
11:53:49AM MR. HOUSTON HAS ALSO SAID THAT A GARAGE MUST BE FLUSH WITH
11:53:53AM THE FRONT OF HIS FRONT PORCH IN ORDER TO LOOK NICE.
11:53:56AM BESIDES THE FACT THAT THIS IS IRRELEVANT AND CANNOT BE THE
11:53:59AM BASIS FOR GRAND TREE REMOVAL, IT IS ALSO UNTRUE.

11:54:03AM A PROMINENT GARAGE AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS SO
11:54:05AM UNDESIRABLE IT HAS ITS OWN DEROGATORY TERM, A SNOUT HOUSE.
11:54:10AM HAVING THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AS THE DOMINANT FEATURE IS SO
11:54:14AM DESIRABLE IT IS IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY, AND OTHER
11:54:16AM BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE OLD HYDE PARK AND OLD NORTHEAST
11:54:19AM IN ST. PETE.
11:54:19AM REGARDLESS OF THAT PERSONAL TASTE IS NOT LEGAL BASIS FOR
11:54:23AM REMOVING GRAND TREES.
11:54:25AM LOOK AT THE ALTERNATE PLANS THAT MR. HOUSTON SUBMITTED.
11:54:30AM BOTH OF THEM SHOW THAT, IN FACT, WITH REASONABLE
11:54:33AM CONFIGURATION BOTH GRAND OAKS CAN BE SAVED AS THE CODE
11:54:39AM DICTATES.
11:54:40AM PLAN B SHOWS AN ADDITION WITHOUT A GARAGE.
11:54:44AM BOOM, THERE IT IS.
11:54:45AM CASE CLOSED, NO ONE IS OWED A GARAGE.
11:54:48AM PLAN C, IF MR. HOUSTON WANTS A GARAGE, HE CAN HAVE IT.
11:54:58AM THIS IS A HUGE LOT.
11:55:00AM 70 BY 200.
11:55:01AM IT'S A THIRD OF AN ACRE.
11:55:03AM YOU CAN SEE BY PLAN C THAT HE SUBMITTED HE CAN HAVE A GARAGE
11:55:07AM IF HE SLIDES EVERYTHING BACK.
11:55:09AM HE CAN STILL HAVE A BIG OVERSIZED YARD FOR HIS KIDS TO PLAY
11:55:15AM IN.
11:55:20AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SEE THE WHEEL.
11:55:24AM >> IS THAT BETTER?

11:55:27AM ANYHOW, YOU CAN SEE THAT EVEN SLIDING THIS BACK, HE STILL
11:55:31AM HAS THIS HUGE YARD FOR HIS CHILDREN TO PLAY IN.
11:55:35AM HE SAYS HE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE OUT OTHER OAKS, BUT THE SURVEY
11:55:40AM SHOWS THAT ISN'T TRUE.
11:55:41AM THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH SPACE FOR BOTH OF THE OAKS CLOSEST
11:55:45AM TO THE ADDITION.
11:55:47AM IT MIGHT BE EASIER TO SEE THEM ON HERE.
11:55:50AM IF YOU LOOK ON PLAN C, THESE ARE THE OTHER OAKS ALL THE WAY
11:55:56AM BACK HERE.
11:55:57AM EVEN WITH THE ADDITION, THESE TWO OAKS ARE FAR ENOUGH WAY
11:56:02AM THAT THERE'S NO PROBLEM.
11:56:04AM THEY WILL NOT HAVE TO BE REMOVED.
11:56:06AM THE OWNER HAS SAID HE MUST HAVE A TWO-CAR GARAGE.
11:56:10AM EVEN IF HE GETS THE VARIANCE, WHAT IS SHOWN IS NOT A TWO-CAR
11:56:14AM GARAGE.
11:56:14AM IT IS AN OVERSIZED ONE-CAR GARAGE.
11:56:17AM IT IS NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR TWO CARS IF HE WANTS TO OPEN THE
11:56:20AM DOORS.
11:56:20AM THE PLAN SAYS THE EXTERIOR OF THE GARAGE IS 21 FEET, 9
11:56:26AM INCHES.
11:56:27AM THAT MEANS THE INTERIOR IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, ABOUT 20
11:56:30AM FEET.
11:56:30AM I WAS AT THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING WHERE TRANSPORTATION
11:56:33AM ENGINEER JONATHAN SCOTT SAID THE INTERIOR OF A TWO-CAR
11:56:36AM GARAGE MUST BE AT LEAST 24 FEET WIDE.

11:56:39AM HE SAID IF IT IS LESS THAN THAT, YOU CAN ONLY FIT TWO CARS
11:56:42AM INTO IT IF YOU CLIMB OUT OF THE WINDOWS.
11:56:47AM THAT MEANS THE PLAN SHOWS ONLY ENOUGH ROOM FOR ONE CAR TO
11:56:49AM PARK IN THE GARAGE.
11:56:50AM MR. HOUSTON'S PLAN A IS TO CREATE AN ENTRANCE BY CUTTING A
11:56:54AM HOLE IN THE EXTERIOR WALL OF THE KITCHEN AND BUILDING A
11:56:57AM CONNECTING HALLWAY TO THE ADDITION.
11:56:58AM WITH A LITTLE TWEAKING, HE CAN STILL DO THAT BY EXTENDING
11:57:01AM THE HALLWAY RIGHT HERE.
11:57:04AM IT WILL TAKE UP A LITTLE BIT OF THE GARAGE, BUT THE GARAGE
11:57:10AM WILL STILL BE A BIG ONE AND A HALF CAR GARAGE, OR HE CAN
11:57:13AM MOVE THE DOOR.
11:57:14AM BUT HE ONLY MENTIONED THESE TO SHOW THAT HE HAS LOTS OF
11:57:18AM OPTIONS.
11:57:18AM DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE OF GETTING CAUGHT IN THE TRAP OF
11:57:22AM DESIGNING THE HOUSE FOR HIM.
11:57:23AM IT'S NOT MY JOB AND IT'S NOT YOUR JOB.
11:57:26AM WE ARE NOT ARCHITECTS AND THE LAW DOES NOT EXPECT US TO
11:57:29AM DESIGN HIS ADDITION.
11:57:30AM HE HAS A THIRD OF AN ACRE.
11:57:32AM 200-FOOT DEEP LOT, IF HE FEELS HE MUST HAVE A GARAGE THEN
11:57:36AM ANY ARCHITECT CAN FIGURE OUT PLENTY OF WAYS TO GIVE HIM ONE
11:57:40AM WITHOUT A VARIANCE.
11:57:41AM THERE IS AN ARCHITECT ON THE VRB WHO SAID EXACTLY THAT WHEN
11:57:43AM SHE VOTED TO DENY THIS VARIANCE.

11:57:46AM I HONESTLY THINK THE ONLY REASON THIS WAS APPROVED IS
11:57:49AM BECAUSE THE VRB MEMBERS WHO I REMIND YOU ARE ALL UNPAID
11:57:53AM VOLUNTEERS DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL PARAMETERS BEFORE
11:57:56AM LAST TUESDAY'S WORKSHOP.
11:57:58AM THEY DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT NO ONE IS OWED A GARAGE AND THE
11:58:00AM LACK OF ONE IS NOT LEGAL GROUNDS FOR APPROVING THE REMOVAL
11:58:04AM OF TWO GRAND TREES.
11:58:06AM THE OWNER WANTS EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS AND HE ONLY WANTS IT
11:58:10AM IN ONE PLACE, RIGHT ON TOP OF TWO GRAND LIVE OAKS THAT ARE
11:58:13AM 42 INCHES AND 47 INCHES IN DIAMETER.
11:58:16AM IF YOU PLANT TWO LIVE OAKS TOMORROW, NO ONE IN THIS ROOM
11:58:19AM WILL LIVE TO SEE THEM REACH THIS SIZE.
11:58:21AM IF THEY ARE LEFT ALONE, THE TWO GRAND OAKS WILL STILL BE
11:58:24AM THERE FOR THE NEXT OWNER AND THE NEXT AND THE NEXT,
11:58:26AM BENEFITING THE ENTIRE CITY LONG AFTER WE ARE ALL GONE.
11:58:30AM I WANT TO REMIND COUNCIL THAT TAMPA'S TREE CANOPY SHRUNK TO
11:58:34AM A CRITICAL LEVEL.
11:58:35AM I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT SOUTH TAMPA'S TREE CANOPY HAS
11:58:38AM SHRUNK MORE THAN ANY OTHER PART OF THE CITY.
11:58:42AM YOU CAN SEE HERE IN FIVE YEARS, SOUTH TAMPA LOST 6% OF ITS
11:58:48AM CANOPY.
11:58:49AM AND THIS IS WHY.
11:58:53AM THIS MAP WAS IN A 2022 TAMPA BAY TIMES ARTICLE.
11:59:00AM IT SHOWS THE HOUSES BULLDOZED IN SOUTH TAMPA.
11:59:03AM MOST OF THEM WERE SMALL, MODEST HOMES.

11:59:06AM THEY HAVE BEEN REPLACED WITH McMANSIONS BUILT ALL THE WAY
11:59:09AM TO THE SETBACKS LEAVING NO ROOM FOR TREES.
11:59:11AM ALMOST EVERY DOT ON THIS MAP REPRESENTS THE LOSS OF CRITICAL
11:59:14AM TREES THAT THE WHOLE CITIES NEEDS FOR COOLING, FLOOD
11:59:17AM MITIGATION, OXYGEN, REDUCTION OF STORMWATER RUNOFF.
11:59:21AM THESE TREES HAVE A HIGH DOLLAR VALUE TO THE CITY.
11:59:25AM THESE TREES ARE SOLID GOLD INFRASTRUCTURE FOR US ALL.
11:59:28AM LIVE OAKS ALONE, $953,000 A YEAR IN SAVINGS TO THIS CITY.
11:59:36AM THE STRUCTURAL VALUE OF LIVE OAKS IS HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER
11:59:42AM SPECIES OF TREE IN THE CITY.
11:59:46AM THEY ARE THE WORKHORSES FOR OUR CITY.
11:59:48AM THIS IS THE CARBON SEQUESTRATION IN ONE YEAR.
11:59:52AM LIVE OAKS DO MORE FOR THE CITY THAN ANY OTHER TREE.
11:59:56AM THE STAFF REPORT FOUND THIS VARIANCE INCONSISTENT, AND I ASK
12:00:01PM TO YOU FIND IT INCONSISTENT ALSO AND TO SAVE THESE TWO
12:00:04PM PRESERVATION QUALITY GRAND LIVE OAKS WHICH ARE THE MOST
12:00:08PM VALUABLE TREES IN OUR CITY.
12:00:10PM I WANT TO SHOW YOU THEY ARE THE RAREST TREES.
12:00:14PM YOU CAN SEE THE LIGHT GREEN IS THE PERCENTAGE OF TREES.
12:00:16PM YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S LOWER.
12:00:19PM THE DARK GREEN IS THE PERCENTAGE OF LEAF AREA.
12:00:21PM YOU CAN SEE THAT IT HAS THE HIGHEST LEAF AREA.
12:00:24PM BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE ONLY 3% OF OUR TREES, THEY DO
12:00:28PM THE MAJORITY OF THE WORK FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF US.
12:00:32PM NO ONE IS OWED A GARAGE.

12:00:35PM THANK YOU.
12:00:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:00:36PM ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL BEFORE I GO TO MR.
12:00:39PM HOUSTON?
12:00:40PM NO.
12:00:42PM ALL RIGHT.
12:00:42PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:00:43PM MR. HOUSTON, YOU ARE UP NEXT.
12:00:45PM YOU HAVE 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT YOUR CASE AND FROM THERE WE
12:00:49PM GO TO CROSS-EXAMINATION, IF NEEDED.
12:00:52PM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:00:54PM >> JUSTIN HOUSTON.
12:00:55PM TO CITY COUNCIL AND OUR CITIZENS WHO HAVE SHOWN UP TODAY,
12:00:59PM THANK YOU.
12:01:00PM THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING THIS MORNING ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK
12:01:02PM TO YOU AGAIN ABOUT OUR TREE REMOVAL REQUEST.
12:01:05PM I WANT TO THANK THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD FOR PREVIOUSLY
12:01:09PM APPROVING THIS REQUEST IN OCTOBER.
12:01:12PM TO BE CLEAR, I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW THAT I HAVE FOLLOWED
12:01:14PM THE ORDINANCE AND THE RULES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROCEDURE.
12:01:17PM I HAVE NOT TAKEN DOWN ANY TREES.
12:01:19PM THIRD-PARTY FOLKS ARE SEEMINGLY ATTACKING ME RATHER THAN
12:01:23PM TRYING TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.
12:01:24PM THIS COUNCIL AT THIS MOMENT IS SITTING AS AN ADJUDICATORY
12:01:28PM BOARD, NOT A POLICY-MAKING BOARD IN THIS MOMENT.

12:01:31PM NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR REWRITING POLICY BUT RATHER
12:01:34PM AFFIRMING THE VRB'S DECISION.
12:01:37PM IF THESE GROUPS WANT TO ACHIEVE THEIR GOALS, POLICY-MAKING
12:01:41PM PATHS TO ACHIEVE THIS.
12:01:43PM AND ATTACKING A LIFELONG TAMPANIAN TRYING TO PROVIDE FOR HIS
12:01:46PM FAMILY SEEMS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
12:01:48PM MS. BENNETT, SHE IS NOT THE APPLICANT.
12:01:52PM SHE IS A THIRD PARTY NON-ATTORNEY REPRESENTING A HOMEOWNER
12:01:55PM WHO MAY NOT BE PRESENT.
12:01:57PM I DON'T KNOW IF SHE IS PRESENT OR NOT.
12:01:59PM WE MUST FOCUS ON ACTUAL LANGUAGE IN ORDINANCE, NOT A
12:02:02PM WORKSHOP COMMENTARY.
12:02:04PM WE MUST FOCUS ON THE LANGUAGE, NOT AN UNSELECTED PERSON'S
12:02:08PM COMMENTARY.
12:02:09PM THIS IS NOT A LEGAL OPINION.
12:02:12PM BUT HEARSAY FROM A WORKSHOP THAT WAS OFFERED PREVIOUSLY.
12:02:16PM TREES PLANTED TODAY WILL BE FULL IN 40 YEARS.
12:02:19PM HOPEFULLY I'LL BE ALIVE WHEN THEY ARE STILL GROWING.
12:02:22PM WITH THAT SAID, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE VARYING PERSPECTIVES
12:02:25PM ABOUT THE REMOVAL OF THESE PROTECTED OAK TREES.
12:02:28PM I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE BOTH SIDES OF THAT ARGUMENT.
12:02:31PM I THOUGHT ABOUT THE PEOPLE DIRECTLY IMPACTED WITH THIS
12:02:35PM DECISION AND THE VRB'S APPROVAL.
12:02:37PM ALL FOUR OF MY NEIGHBORS THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED, HOOKER,
12:02:41PM PASTORE, RILEY, BROCCO, HAVE APPROVED THE TREES BEING

12:02:44PM REMOVED.
12:02:45PM THEY EVEN SENT LETTERS OF SUPPORT THAT I'VE SUBMITTED TO THE
12:02:48PM CITY CLERK'S OFFICE THAT MS. JOHNSON HAS RECEIVED.
12:02:53PM I'VE ALSO SUBMITTED LETTERS FROM ADDITIONAL NEIGHBORS IN
12:02:56PM SUPPORT OF.
12:02:57PM PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT NO ONE IS OBLIGATED TO WRITE A LETTER
12:03:00PM ON MY BEHALF, YET THEY DID SO, IN SUPPORT OF THE TREES BEING
12:03:03PM REMOVED.
12:03:04PM THESE FOLKS SHARE A FENCE WITH ME.
12:03:06PM I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ONE OUT OF 53 NEIGHBORS FILED
12:03:10PM A PETITION TO APPEAL THE VRB'S DECISION.
12:03:13PM ONE OUT OF 53.
12:03:14PM EVERYBODY ELSE ASSOCIATED WITH SOME ASSOCIATION.
12:03:17PM SO ONE OUT OF THE 53 WITHIN 250 FEET OF MY PERIMETER HAVE
12:03:21PM FILED AN APPEAL.
12:03:23PM THE OTHER FOLKS -- WENT OVER THAT.
12:03:27PM FOR CLARITY, THE PURPOSES FOR THIS ADDITION AND SAFETY -- IS
12:03:30PM SAFETY AND SECURITY.
12:03:31PM I HAD AN ANKLE REPLACEMENT ON DECEMBER 14, 2021, AND NOW MY
12:03:35PM SECOND NEXT SURGERY TO REPAIR A HERNIATED DISK IN LATE
12:03:39PM SEPTEMBER 2023.
12:03:39PM I HAVE SIX SCREWS AND A PLATE HOLDING MULTIPLE DISKS
12:03:44PM TOGETHER.
12:03:45PM I SHOWED UP TO THIS HEARING THE FIRST TIME WITH A CERVICAL
12:03:48PM COLLAR ON AS I WAS APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS OUT OF SURGERY

12:03:51PM BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE THAT THIS IS TO MY FAMILY.
12:03:54PM HAVING OUR VEHICLES IN A GARAGE WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE A LOT
12:03:58PM OF STRESS FOR ME PHYSICALLY AS I'M NO LONGER PROFICIENT IN
12:04:02PM NAVIGATING SLIPPERY SURFACES BECAUSE OF MY ANKLES.
12:04:07PM PHYSICIAN NOTE ON FILE AT WORK TO WEAR TENNIS SHOES BECAUSE
12:04:10PM MOST PROFESSIONALS HAVE TO WEAR DRESS SHOES.
12:04:14PM I CANNOT RUN AS IT RISKS DESTROYING MY ARTIFICIAL ANKLE.
12:04:20PM I SAY THIS AS IT RELATES TO SECURITY AND HAVING TO GO
12:04:23PM OUTDOORS EVERY TIME TO GET IN THE CAR TO TRAVEL FOR ANY
12:04:25PM REASON.
12:04:26PM FOR ME TO HAVE A BEDROOM ON THE FIRST FLOOR, PART OF THE
12:04:29PM ADDITION, ALLEVIATE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PHYSICAL STRESS
12:04:32PM I GO THROUGH.
12:04:32PM CONTRARY TO MY APPEARANCE, IT IS IMPORTANT TO YOU TO KNOW
12:04:36PM THAT I ENGAGE IN PHYSICAL REHAB FIVE TO SIX DAYS A WEEK OVER
12:04:39PM AN HOUR AT A TIME.
12:04:40PM I AM OWNING MY PHYSICAL CAPABILITIES AND TRYING TO IMPROVE
12:04:43PM SHORTCOMINGS, NOT AVOIDING THEM.
12:04:46PM IN TERMS OF SECURITY, WE, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONTINUE TO DEAL
12:04:48PM WITH FOLKS COMING THROUGH AND ATTEMPTING TO BREAK INTO
12:04:51PM VEHICLES.
12:04:51PM THE LAST TIME I SPOKE TO YOU I MENTIONED THIS AND OVER THE
12:04:54PM HOLIDAYS, MY CAR WAS LEFT UNLOCK AND MY BELONGINGS WERE
12:04:58PM RUMMAGED THROUGH.
12:04:59PM CASH AND COINS WERE TAKEN.

12:05:00PM MAYBE THAT DOESN'T MEAN MUCH TO YOU.
12:05:03PM SECURITY MEASURE TO ME, MAYBE MY FAULT FOR NOT LOCKING MY
12:05:05PM CAR, BUT IT HAPPENED.
12:05:06PM I WAS ASKED IF I BROUGHT A POLICE REPORT ABOUT CRIME LAST
12:05:09PM TIME.
12:05:09PM I DID NOT AND I'M NOT BRINGING ONE THIS TIME EITHER.
12:05:12PM THOUGH I DID NOT REPORT THIS, IT IS REAL, AND IT WOULD NOT
12:05:17PM HAPPEN IN A GARAGE.
12:05:18PM AS FOR MY WIFE, SHE GOES TO THE GYM ALMOST EVERY WEEKDAY
12:05:22PM MORNING OF THE MONTH TO STAY PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY
12:05:25PM HEALTHY.
12:05:25PM SHE IS UP AROUND 4 A.M. AND OUT BEFORE 5 A.M.
12:05:29PM I CONTINUE TO ESCORT HER IN THE MORNINGS THOUGH SHE IS IN
12:05:31PM BETTER SHAPE THAN I AM, ALSO REITERATE THE FACT THAT THERE
12:05:34PM ARE SNAKES, RACCOONS, POSSUMS ON OUR PROPERTY AT ALL TIMES.
12:05:38PM A TWO CAR GARAGE WOULD ELIMINATE THE FEAR OF DEALING WITH
12:05:40PM THESE ANIMALS ON THE DAILY.
12:05:42PM WE DON'T HARM THE ANIMALS.
12:05:43PM WE LIVE WITH THEM.
12:05:44PM AS WE MOVE ON, IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE MY CONCERN
12:05:47PM REGARDING THE TREATMENT I RECEIVED FROM THE FOLKS THAT ARE
12:05:49PM NOT MY NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN THIS ROOM.
12:05:50PM THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE I WAS REFERRED TO AS SELFISH,
12:05:54PM IGNORANT AND STUPID.
12:05:55PM PLEASE REMEMBER THIS, I AM NOT A CONTRACTOR WHO IS TRYING TO

12:05:58PM BUILD MULTI-RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
12:06:00PM THIS IS NOT FOR MONETARY GAIN.
12:06:02PM I BELIEVE IN THE CONSTRUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS AND CIVIL
12:06:05PM DISCOURSE, SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE -- I'M NOT GOING TO
12:06:08PM ENTERTAIN THE IDEA OF SOMEONE ACTUALLY BELIEVING THAT I AM
12:06:11PM STUPID, SELFISH AND IGNORANT.
12:06:12PM I'VE BEEN A TEACHER FOR 20 YEARS.
12:06:15PM FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH AS A TEACHER, I GET TWO PERSONAL DAYS A
12:06:17PM YEAR AND I'M USING ONE TO BE WITH YOU TODAY.
12:06:20PM I DID LEAVE MY SIXTH GRADE DAUGHTER'S PLAY TODAY AS WELL TO
12:06:24PM BE HERE.
12:06:24PM I'M A PRODUCT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA AND HOLD AN
12:06:29PM UNDERGRADUATE AND GRADUATE DEGREE FROM THAT INCREDIBLE
12:06:32PM INSTITUTION.
12:06:32PM ALSO HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE TAMPA COMMUNITY AS LITTLE
12:06:35PM LEAGUE COACH IN INTERBAY LITTLE LEAGUE, ALSO COACH TAMPA BAY
12:06:38PM LITTLE LEAGUE AND PALMA CEIA LITTLE LEAGUE AND COACH A FLAG
12:06:41PM FOOTBALL AT UNDERARMOR RISE WITH KIDS FROM ACROSS THE CITY
12:06:44PM ON IT.
12:06:44PM I PERFORMED INTERNSHIPS AT LETO AND JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
12:06:47PM I COACH VARSITY BASEBALL, POP CUESTA, JEFFERSON LEGENDARY
12:06:52PM BASEBALL COACH FOR THREE YEARS.
12:06:54PM I WORKED AT LA SEGUNDA CENTRAL BAKERY FOR TONY MOORE, THE
12:06:55PM LATE GREAT TONY MOORE, AND DELIVERED BREAD FOR HIM 5:30
12:07:02PM EVERY MORNING WHILE AT USF.

12:07:03PM IN THE AFTERNOONS I WORKED AS WAITER AND COOK AT LEE ROY
12:07:06PM SELMON'S.
12:07:08PM MY POINT, EVERYTHING I KNOW, EVERYTHING I'VE LEARNED, AND
12:07:11PM EVERYTHING I DO IS ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND CHILDREN OF TAMPA.
12:07:14PM YES, SELFISH, IGNORANT, STUPID, THAT'S ME.
12:07:17PM THAT'S WHAT SOME PEOPLE WANT YOU TO BELIEVE.
12:07:19PM WHAT IS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO CONVEY TO YOU, I AM A PRODUCT OF
12:07:23PM TAMPA AND AN ACTIVE MEMBER IN THIS COMMUNITY.
12:07:25PM I'VE BEEN A PART OF PEDIATRIC CANCER FOUNDATION, THE FIRST
12:07:28PM TEE, ART RESOLUTION THERAPY.
12:07:30PM I'VE WORKED WITH CITY COUNCIL, EVEN GET A STOP SIGN AT
12:07:34PM RUSSELL AND BAY, THE INTERSECTION WHERE I LIVE FOR THE
12:07:36PM SAFETY OF CHILDREN.
12:07:38PM YOU HAVE HEARD THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO BUILD OUR
12:07:42PM ADDITION.
12:07:43PM THERE ARE.
12:07:43PM I RECOGNIZE THAT AND REITERATE THAT NO MATTER WHAT SOMEONE
12:07:46PM TELLS YOU TO DO, TREES ARE GOING TO COME DOWN.
12:07:49PM FRANKLY, I FILED AN EXCEPTION FOR OUR DRIVEWAY DESIGN THAT
12:07:52PM ALLOWS US TO KEEP TREES UPRIGHT.
12:07:54PM I DON'T WANT TO CUT THEM DOWN.
12:07:55PM ALSO DON'T WANT TO PUT AN ADDITION ON A HOUSE THAT LEAVES A
12:07:59PM GAP AND LOOKS COMICAL AND SERVES AS AN EYESORE TO THE
12:08:03PM BALLAST POINT COMMUNITY AND MY NEIGHBORS.
12:08:06PM FULL TRANSPARENCY, THAT'S WHAT IS ASKED OF US AND NOT

12:08:09PM APPROPRIATE.
12:08:09PM WE HAVE NUMEROUS OAK TREES IN OUR BACKYARD AND KEEP THEM
12:08:12PM WHERE THEY ARE.
12:08:13PM THEY ARE BIG, STRONG AND BEAUTIFUL.
12:08:14PM FORCING US TO REDESIGN PLANS AND BUILD ELSEWHERE WILL COST
12:08:17PM US MORE MONEY AND THE ENVIRONMENT MORE TREES AND THIS IS OUR
12:08:20PM FOREVER HOME.
12:08:23PM NOBODY ELSE'S.
12:08:25PM WHAT IS THE CATCH?
12:08:25PM THE PICTURES I'LL SHARE WITH YOU SOON WILL TELL THE FULL
12:08:29PM TRUTH.
12:08:30PM THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, THE TREE ADVOCACY GROUP AND A
12:08:33PM REPRESENTATIVE, MAYBE JUST A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITY OF
12:08:35PM TAMPA, ONLY DISPLAYED A TREE BRANCH FROM ONE OF THE GRAND
12:08:39PM OAKS THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED.
12:08:39PM IT SHOWED A BRANCH THAT HUNG IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
12:08:42PM ALSO SEEN DIFFERENT PICTURES TODAY AND I HAVE SOME TO SHOW
12:08:45PM YOU.
12:08:46PM MY OPINION, THIS IS A MISREPRESENTATION OF THE FULL TRUTH.
12:08:48PM I'M GOING TO PROVE TO YOU WHY.
12:08:50PM YOU WILL SEE A HOW MANY THOUSAND POUND BRANCH HANGING OVER
12:08:53PM MY ROOF.
12:08:54PM EXTENDS THE WIDTH OF THE HOUSE, WHEN IT COMES DOWN IN A
12:08:58PM HURRICANE, GOD FORBID, MY KIDS' LIVES ARE IN JEOPARDY AS IS
12:09:01PM MY WIFE, MINE, AND MY DOGS.

12:09:04PM ADDITIONAL PICTURES WILL DEMONSTRATE HOW FAR OVER MY
12:09:06PM NEIGHBOR'S POOL THE TREE HANGS AND MY OTHER NEIGHBOR'S YARD
12:09:09PM SO CLOSE TO THE HOUSE.
12:09:10PM THE NEXT PICTURE WILL SHOW YOU LARGE BRANCHES HAD TO ALREADY
12:09:14PM BE CUT DOWN BECAUSE THEY WERE WATERLOGGED AND FELL.
12:09:16PM THEN I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE A TREE WAS MOVED BEFORE I EVEN
12:09:20PM MOVED IN.
12:09:20PM HERE ARE THE PICTURES.
12:09:24PM CAN YOU GUYS SEE THAT?
12:09:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT'S SMALL.
12:09:30PM ZOOM IN ON IT.
12:09:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SIR, THERE IS A GREEN WHEEL UP ON TOP.
12:09:40PM GO THE OTHER DIRECTION.
12:09:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS BRANCH IS HANGING OVER --
12:09:48PM >> SO THAT BRANCH IS DIRECTLY OVER THE SECOND STORY OF MY
12:09:50PM HOUSE.
12:09:51PM DIRECTLY OVER.
12:09:53PM THE SMALL BRANCHES ARE ALREADY RESTING ON THE ROOF.
12:09:56PM WHEN THE WIND BLOWS REAL HARD AND STARTS SHAKING, YOU CAN
12:10:00PM HEAR THE SCRATCHING.
12:10:01PM THIS PICTURE IS MORE ACCURATE OF A PICTURE.
12:10:03PM THAT IS THE FRONT OF OUR HOUSE.
12:10:05PM YOU CAN SEE THESE TREES LEANING AND THE BRANCH I SHOWED YOU
12:10:08PM IS CLOSER AND OVER THE ROOF.
12:10:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THESE TREES THAT YOU ARE SHOWING ARE THE

12:10:18PM TREES IN QUESTION?
12:10:20PM >> YES, SIR.
12:10:21PM THAT BRANCH I SHOWED YOU ORIGINALLY THAT'S IT, EXTENDING ALL
12:10:37PM THE WAY OVER MY HOUSE.
12:10:38PM THE WINDOW YOU SEE ON THE LEFT, TWO OF MY CHILDREN LIVE IN
12:10:41PM BUNK BEDS IN THAT ROOM.
12:10:42PM SO WHEN IT COMES DOWN, THEY ARE THE FIRST -- THEY ARE IN
12:10:45PM LINE.
12:10:46PM THAT IS A PICTURE FROM DIRECTLY UNDER THE TREE BRANCH THAT'S
12:10:50PM HANGING OVER.
12:10:52PM THAT IS WHERE A BRANCH WAS CUT DOWN.
12:10:56PM THAT IS HANGING OVER MY NEIGHBOR'S POOL ALL THE WAY ACROSS
12:11:00PM THE STREET AND ALMOST GETTING TO THEIR HOUSE.
12:11:02PM THAT IS ANOTHER VIEW OF IT.
12:11:05PM THAT'S RIGHT ABOVE IT.
12:11:07PM AND THAT'S FROM MY BACKYARD, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT
12:11:11PM BRANCH IS DOING.
12:11:12PM THIS, AGAIN, THAT IS ACTUALLY GOING INTO MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE
12:11:18PM TO THE EAST.
12:11:18PM AGAIN, SIDE VIEW OF THAT GIGANTIC BRANCH HANGING OVER MY
12:11:25PM HOUSE.
12:11:25PM THOSE ARE THE PICTURES I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU JUST SO
12:11:28PM YOU GET A REAL-LIFE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH
12:11:31PM RIGHT NOW.
12:11:32PM I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN REPRESENTED APPROPRIATELY.

12:11:36PM AND TO BE CLEAR, MY FAMILY AND I LOVE NATURE, AND WE LOVE
12:11:39PM BALLAST POINT, LOVE IT.
12:11:40PM THE TREE REMOVAL AND SUBSEQUENT HOME ADDITION WILL ONLY HELP
12:11:44PM BEAUTIFY THIS PRESSURE AREA WE CALL HOME.
12:11:47PM NO ONE WANTS TO SEE A HOME ADDITION THAT APPEARS TO BE A
12:11:49PM BAND-AID APPROACH.
12:11:50PM WE CREATED PLANS THAT WOULD MAKE OUR NEIGHBORS PROUD.
12:11:53PM MOST IMPORTANTLY, THESE PLANS WILL MAKE OUR CHILDREN PROUD
12:11:55PM AND GREAT CITY OF TAMPA PROUD.
12:11:56PM FOR A KID WHO GREW UP ON BUSCH AND 27th IN SULPHUR SPRINGS
12:12:00PM AT ONE TIME WHO LIVED GREAT AUNT, UNCLE AND MOM IN A TINY
12:12:05PM HOUSE, ATE FREE LUNCH AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, NOT SURE IF
12:12:08PM THOSE ARE STILL THE NAMES, WHO ESSENTIALLY HAD NOTHING, I
12:12:11PM STAND HERE BEFORE YOU AS A PROUD TAMPA NATIVE, PROUD FATHER,
12:12:15PM PROUD EDUCATOR, AND A PROUD COACH WHO CONTINUES TO WORK HARD
12:12:18PM TO CHANGE THE TRAJECTORY OF MY FAMILY.
12:12:20PM THIS ADDITION WILL PROVE TO MY CHILDREN THAT HARD WORK,
12:12:23PM PERSEVERANCE AND GRIT, WHICH IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE
12:12:27PM OPPORTUNITY AS OPPOSED TO DEAD ENDS IS REAL.
12:12:30PM MOST IMPORTANTLY, MY FAMILY WILL CONTINUE TO UNDERSTAND MY
12:12:33PM LEVEL OF CONCERN WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR SAFETY AND THE
12:12:36PM SAFETY OF OUR ASSETS, OUR HOME, THE MITOCHONDRIA OF EVERY
12:12:40PM FAMILY DYNAMIC.
12:12:41PM SAFEST PLACE FOR KIDS TO LEARN, GROW AND LEARN WHO THEY WANT
12:12:44PM TO BE.

12:12:45PM HOME IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAFE HAVEN WHERE THE HEART IS.
12:12:47PM PHYSICALLY SPEAKING, REMOVAL OF THE TREES WILL PROVIDE US
12:12:51PM WITH A MUCH SAFER SITUATION.
12:12:53PM AS I STATED DURING OUR HEARING IN OCTOBER, SAFETY IS A RIGHT
12:12:56PM AND NOT A WANT.
12:12:58PM TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SPOKEN IN A VERY
12:13:01PM DEMOCRATIC WAY.
12:13:02PM ONE OUT OF 53 HAVE FILED AN APPEAL AND SHE IS NOT AFFECTED
12:13:06PM BY THIS TREE AS SHE LIVES ON A DIFFERENT STREET.
12:13:09PM NUMEROUS NEIGHBORS HAVE FILED LETTERS OF SUPPORT WHICH I
12:13:12PM BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE.
12:13:13PM THE OTHER FOLKS ONLY INVOLVED AS MEMBERS OF AN ASSOCIATION
12:13:17PM AND DO NOT LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:13:19PM TO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD, I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR
12:13:23PM APPROVING THIS BACK IN EARLY OCTOBER AND TO CITY COUNCIL,
12:13:28PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND LEADERSHIP.
12:13:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:13:31PM I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS, BUT YOU JUST
12:13:33PM ANSWERED THEM.
12:13:34PM OUT OF 53 NEIGHBORS -- AND THIS IS NOT EVIDENCE.
12:13:38PM THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID -- 53, ONE FILED A GRIEVANCE HERE.
12:13:44PM >> I BELIEVE M.C. GRAHAM.
12:13:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, I UNDERSTAND.
12:13:46PM THE PERSON THAT FILED THE GRIEVANCE IS NOT NEXT DOOR TO YOU
12:13:51PM OR AFFECTED BY THIS TREE.

12:13:53PM >> ON ELKIN.
12:13:55PM I DON'T KNOW IF SHE IS PRESENT IN THE ROOM.
12:13:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S NOT EVIDENCE, THAT IS JUST WHAT
12:13:59PM YOU SAID GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL THING, THE VARIANCE
12:14:03PM REVIEW BOARD APPROVED THIS.
12:14:06PM >> APPROVED 4-2.
12:14:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: UNTIL IT WAS CHALLENGED, UNTIL SOMEBODY
12:14:10PM CAME AS AN AGGRIEVED PARTY.
12:14:12PM >> YES, SIR, THAT'S CORRECT.
12:14:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LETTERS OF SUPPORT, THAT'S NOT COMPETENT
12:14:18PM SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
12:14:19PM WE HAVE LETTERS FROM BOTH SIDES.
12:14:21PM I'M JUST TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING IN ORDER.
12:14:24PM >> I WOULD JUST ASK TO LOOK AT THE LETTERS FROM NEIGHBORS
12:14:27PM WITHIN 250 FEET.
12:14:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
12:14:29PM I APPRECIATE IT.
12:14:30PM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CODE.
12:14:31PM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE.
12:14:33PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:14:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:14:34PM I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ARBORIST.
12:14:36PM HE SHOWED SOME PHOTOS OF THE TREE.
12:14:49PM CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE TREE?
12:14:52PM >> YES.

12:14:52PM BOTH OF THESE LIVE OAKS ARE GRAND IN SIZE, MEANING OVER 32
12:14:57PM INCHES AND BOTH PRESERVATION QUALITY WHICH IS C-8.
12:15:00PM LIVE OAKS DO TEND TO HAVE SPRAWLING CANOPIES DUE TO AGE, DUE
12:15:06PM TO JUST THEIR GROWTH STRUCTURE.
12:15:08PM LIVE OAKS ARE ALSO ONE OF THE HIGHEST RATED TREES IN THE
12:15:12PM FLORIDA COMMUNITY FOR HURRICANES AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS
12:15:15PM ACTUALLY PROVIDING BUFFERS FOR HOMES COMPARED TO DAMAGING
12:15:19PM HOMES.
12:15:20PM AND THAT WAS RESEARCH DONE BY UF.
12:15:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DON'T WANT TO INTERRUPT BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN
12:15:26PM WHAT C-8 MEANS?
12:15:28PM >>STEVE EYSTER: IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE CITY OF TAMPA
12:15:30PM RATING SYSTEM, YOU HAVE A THROUGH F.
12:15:32PM A IS EXCELLENT.
12:15:33PM F IS DEAD.
12:15:34PM C IS KIND OF THAT MIDDLE RANGE.
12:15:38PM TO GET THE NUMBER, YOU HAVE THREE COMPONENTS.
12:15:40PM YOU HAVE A TARGET RATING, WHICH THIS ONE WOULD HAVE A
12:15:43PM CONSTANT TARGET, WHICH IS A 4.
12:15:45PM SO THE OTHER FOUR POINTS ARE BETWEEN THE OTHER TWO
12:15:49PM CATEGORIES.
12:15:49PM SO THERE COULD BE TWO POINTS IN EACH CATEGORY, AND THAT
12:15:52PM TALKS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF LIKE A LIMB FAILURE, SAY IF A
12:15:57PM LIMB IS TEN INCHES IN DIAMETER, IT COMES WITH A 2 RATING.
12:16:01PM THAT'S HOW THE RATING IS COMPOSED.

12:16:06PM TAKE AWAY THE TARGET, WHICH IS FOUR POINTS, YOU'RE LEFT WITH
12:16:09PM FOUR MORE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN CONTRIBUTED ACROSS THE OTHER
12:16:13PM TWO CATEGORIES.
12:16:14PM SO ON THE LOWER, SAY, IF YOU HAVE ONE THROUGH FOUR, YOU KNOW
12:16:18PM THEY ARE IN THE TOP HALF OF THAT RATING SYSTEM.
12:16:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S A HEALTHY TREE.
12:16:24PM >>STEVE EYSTER: IT'S A HEALTHY TREE.
12:16:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL?
12:16:27PM YES, MA'AM.
12:16:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
12:16:29PM THE LARGE BRANCH IN TERMS OF, CAN YOU SPEAK ABOUT A BRANCH
12:16:38PM OF THAT NATURE WHEN IT COMES TO WEATHER, THE LIKELIHOOD,
12:16:42PM WHAT WOULD IT HAVE TO TAKE FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO COME
12:16:46PM DOWN?
12:16:46PM >>STEVE EYSTER: DEALING WITH TREES, THEY ARE BIOLOGICAL.
12:16:50PM SOME THINGS DO HAPPEN.
12:16:51PM WITH REGULAR MAINTENANCE AND PRUNING AND MANAGEMENT OF THE
12:16:55PM TREE, YOU KNOW YOU HAVE A HEALTHY LIMB THAT SHOULD LAST
12:16:59PM THROUGH A STORM BASED OFF RESEARCH.
12:17:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: COULD YOU POSSIBLY PREDICT 30 YEARS AGO,
12:17:06PM WAS THAT BRANCH ALREADY EXTENDED TO A CERTAIN DEGREE?
12:17:12PM >>STEVE EYSTER: I CAN'T.
12:17:13PM I CAN TELL YOU MOST LIKELY FIVE YEARS AGO THAT LIMB WAS
12:17:16PM PROBABLY THERE.
12:17:17PM THOSE LIMBS -- THEY ARE NOT POPPING UP OVERNIGHT KIND OF

12:17:21PM SITUATION.
12:17:21PM SO THE STRUCTURE OF THAT TREE WITH THE OTHER TREES AROUND
12:17:24PM IT, IT PROBABLY HAS HAD THAT GROWTH.
12:17:27PM SO THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN '92.
12:17:30PM SO THAT LIMB WAS PROBABLY MAYBE NOT QUITE THERE WHEN THE
12:17:33PM HOUSE WAS BUILT BECAUSE IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN
12:17:36PM REMOVED.
12:17:36PM BETWEEN '92 AND NOW, IF I HAD TO JUST PUT A TIME FRAME ON IT
12:17:41PM FOR THAT LIMB TO GROW IN THAT MANNER, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF
12:17:47PM GROWN UP AND OVER THE HOUSE, SO I'M ASSUMING THE HOUSE WAS
12:17:50PM THERE.
12:17:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
12:17:54PM I HAVE A QUESTION FOR SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ.
12:18:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I JUST WANT TO ASK IN THE SAME
12:18:07PM CONVERSATION --
12:18:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S STILL HER TURN.
12:18:10PM SHE WANTS SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ.
12:18:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
12:18:14PM SUSAN JOHNSON VELEZ.
12:18:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. JOHNSON VELEZ, IN TERMS OF VRB, ANY
12:18:27PM TREE IN TAMPA CAN HANG OVER A HOUSE AND BE ACCEPTABLE.
12:18:33PM IS THAT HOW I'M UNDERSTANDING IT?
12:18:35PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: WELL, I THINK YOU --
12:18:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IN TERMS OF LIVE OAKS.
12:18:40PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: LEGAL DEPARTMENT, YES.

12:18:42PM STEVEN CAN ADDRESS THAT.
12:18:44PM THEY DO GROW IN ALL KINDS OF DIRECTIONS.
12:18:46PM IF THERE IS A HOME THERE, IT SOMETIMES WILL GROW ONE WAY
12:18:49PM BECAUSE OF THE HOME, ET CETERA.
12:18:50PM I DID HEAR SOME COMMENTARY OR PERHAPS SUGGESTING THAT THE
12:18:54PM TREE WAS A SAFETY CONCERN.
12:18:56PM AGAIN THAT'S NOT THE PROCESS THAT YOU FOLLOW IF THERE IS A
12:19:00PM SAFETY CONCERN IS TO GO TO THE VRB.
12:19:02PM THE VRB IS A SEPARATE PROCESS TO DETERMINE HARDSHIP AND
12:19:06PM WHETHER IT WAS SELF-CREATED AND ALL THOSE CRITERIA THAT ARE
12:19:08PM IN THE CODE.
12:19:09PM THAT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS ADDRESSED AT THE VRB HEARING.
12:19:12PM IT WAS MORE THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA.
12:19:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
12:19:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:19:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN FACT, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT
12:19:19PM WAS THE SAME THING.
12:19:19PM THE BIG BRANCH WE SEE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, COULD DAMAGE
12:19:23PM THE HOUSE.
12:19:24PM WHAT HAPPENS IF THAT BRANCH IS DIMINISHED AND TAKEN OFF?
12:19:27PM >>STEVE EYSTER: CURRENTLY THAT BRANCH IS ONE OF THE MAIN
12:19:30PM LIMBS OF THE TREE.
12:19:31PM YOU CAN MANAGE IT, LIKE SLOWLY REDUCE IT AND TRY TO REDUCE
12:19:35PM THE RISK OF THE LIMB.
12:19:37PM BUT IF WE DECIDED EVERY TREE WITH A LIMB OVER A STRUCTURE IS

12:19:42PM UNSAFE OR NEEDS TO BE REMOVED --
12:19:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT --
12:19:49PM >>STEVE EYSTER: YOU CAN MANAGE, REDUCE.
12:19:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY ALL HAVE A ROOT AND ALL HAVE
12:19:53PM BRANCHES.
12:19:54PM THAT'S THE SAME.
12:19:55PM BUT IN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION, WHAT WOULD IT DO TO THE
12:19:59PM CANOPY OF THE TREE IF THAT BRANCH WAS REMOVED?
12:20:02PM >>STEVE EYSTER: IF YOU REMOVE THE BRANCH, WHAT IT WOULD DO
12:20:04PM IS CAUSE THE SMALLER GROWTHS TO APPEAR FROM THE CUT AS A WAY
12:20:08PM FOR THE TREE TO COMPENSATE FOR THE REMOVED CANOPY.
12:20:11PM THOSE SPROUTS THAT ARE GOING TO GROW FROM THAT ARE GOING TO
12:20:14PM HAVE A WEAKER CONNECTION AND ACTUALLY BE MORE HAZARDOUS THAN
12:20:19PM WHAT'S CURRENTLY THERE, THAT THE TREE IS NATURALLY
12:20:23PM SUPPORTING OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS.
12:20:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:20:28PM AT THIS TIME, WE WILL HAVE CROSS-EXAMINATION.
12:20:35PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND WHO DO YOU WISH TO
12:20:38PM CROSS-EXAMINE?
12:20:39PM THE GENTLEMAN, MR. HOUSTON?
12:20:43PM >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
12:20:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU DON'T HAVE TO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.
12:20:49PM JUST GOING BY THE CHART.
12:20:51PM >> I WANT TO ASK MR. EYSTER SOMETHING.
12:20:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

12:20:56PM >> CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
12:20:57PM IT'S TRUE IF THERE IS A SAFETY CONCERN ABOUT THE TREE, THE
12:21:00PM CITY HAS A PROCESS FOR DEALING WITH THAT AND THAT IS TO
12:21:04PM APPLY FOR HAZARDOUS TREE REMOVAL, IS THAT CORRECT?
12:21:07PM >>STEVE EYSTER: THAT IS CORRECT.
12:21:09PM >> DOES THIS TREE RATE FOR HAZARDOUS TREE REMOVAL?
12:21:14PM >> CURRENTLY, NO, IT DOES NOT.
12:21:17PM [INAUDIBLE]
12:21:17PM >> I HEARD YOU TESTIFY BEFORE ABOUT LIVE OAKS THAT THEY TEND
12:21:21PM TO DO THAT AND THEY GROW ACCORDINGLY WITH THE ROOTS, IS THEY
12:21:26PM COMPENSATE, THEY GROW A STRENGTH OF STRUCTURE ON THE SIDE TO
12:21:30PM COMPENSATE FOR THAT.
12:21:33PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:21:34PM >> THAT'S ALL MY CROSS-EXAMINATION.
12:21:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:21:36PM MR. HOUSTON, YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CROSS-EXAMINE AS
12:21:39PM WELL, IF YOU CHOOSE TO.
12:21:43PM >> I JUST WANTED TO ASK --
12:21:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN AND COME UP
12:21:46PM TO THE MICROPHONE.
12:21:47PM >> JUSTIN HOUSTON.
12:21:48PM AM I PERMITTED TO ASK IF MS. GRAHAM IS IN ATTENDANCE SO I
12:21:54PM CAN ASK HER QUESTIONS OR NO?
12:21:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, YOU CAN.
12:21:58PM >> IS MS. GRAHAM IN ATTENDANCE.

12:22:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE IS NOT HERE, BUT THE REPRESENTATIVE
12:22:01PM IS HERE.
12:22:02PM >> OKAY.
12:22:03PM AND WE'VE GONE OVER THAT.
12:22:04PM I'VE GONE OVER THE LEVEL OF PARTNERSHIP WITH THE
12:22:08PM REPRESENTATIVE.
12:22:09PM ALL I WOULD SAY IS THIS.
12:22:12PM THE LAST TIME I WAS IN THIS ROOM FOR THE VARIANCE REVIEW
12:22:19PM BOARD HEARING, VARIANCE BOARD REVIEW, I LISTENED VERY
12:22:24PM RESPECTFULLY TO MS. CARROLL AND HER TEAM AND AT ONE POINT
12:22:30PM THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO I BELIEVE IS IN THE ROOM WHO HAD A
12:22:33PM CLIENT --
12:22:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. HOUSTON, THIS IS ONLY AN OPPORTUNITY
12:22:36PM TO CROSS-EXAMINE, NOT AS A REBUTTAL.
12:22:38PM THE APPLICANT DOES.
12:22:41PM BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
12:22:43PM AT THIS POINT, I WILL TAKE IT TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
12:22:45PM IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
12:22:48PM PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
12:22:50PM I KNOW WE SWORE IN QUITE A FEW INDIVIDUALS.
12:22:56PM PLEASE DISCLOSE IF YOU HAVE ANY DIRECT OR INDIRECT BUSINESS
12:22:58PM OR PERSONAL INTEREST AND THEN WE CAN ASK -- COUNCIL MEMBERS
12:23:03PM CAN ASK QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.
12:23:05PM YES, MA'AM, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
12:23:07PM YOU WILL BE THE FIRST SPEAKER.

12:23:10PM MS. PERINO.
12:23:12PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:23:15PM >> LORRAINE PERINO.
12:23:16PM I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
12:23:18PM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
12:23:19PM I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA TREE ADVOCACY GROUP.
12:23:23PM HONORABLE MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL, YOU HAVE ALL HEARD THE
12:23:26PM CASE FOR PRESERVING WHAT REMAINS OF TAMPA'S DECLINING TREE
12:23:29PM CANOPY.
12:23:30PM AT THE TWO CITY OF TAMPA TREE WORKSHOPS LAST YEAR, YOU HEARD
12:23:33PM THE AUTHORS OF THE 2021 TREE CANOPY AND URBAN FOREST
12:23:36PM ANALYSIS DISCUSS THE 4% LOSS OF TREE CANOPY IN THE PAST FIVE
12:23:41PM YEARS.
12:23:41PM 18% IN SOUTH TAMPA ALONE.
12:23:43PM YOU LEARNED THAT IN THE NAME OF PROGRESS TAMPA HAS PERMITTED
12:23:47PM BUILDERS AND DEVELOPERS TO REMOVE SO MANY TREES THAT TAMPA'S
12:23:50PM GRAND OAKS, THE MOST VALUABLE BENEFICIAL TREES IN ALL OF
12:23:53PM FLORIDA ARE NOW CONSIDERED TO BE RARE.
12:23:55PM YOU HAVE EVEN VOTED TO APPROVE THE DESTRUCTION OF SOME OF
12:23:57PM THESE VALUABLE TREES, BUT THERE COMES A TIME WHEN WE MUST
12:24:01PM ALL ASK THESE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS.
12:24:03PM WHEN DOES AN INDIVIDUAL'S OWN SELF-INTEREST OUTWEIGH THE
12:24:07PM COMMON GOOD?
12:24:08PM AND AT WHAT POINT IS AN INDIVIDUAL SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT
12:24:11PM ALLOWED TO OVERRIDE THE GREATER GOOD OF THE LARGER

12:24:14PM COMMUNITY?
12:24:14PM IT IS THIS NEXUS THAT WE TAMPA RESIDENTS HAVE ARRIVED AT
12:24:19PM TODAY.
12:24:19PM ALTHOUGH THIS APPLICANT IS FORTUNATE TO HAVE AN OVERLY LARGE
12:24:22PM LOT IN WHICH TO CONSTRUCT HIS ADD-ON STRUCTURES, STILL HAVE
12:24:25PM A SPACIOUS BACKYARD AND PRESERVE THE TREES IN THE REAR OF
12:24:27PM THE PROPERTY, HE INSISTS THAT HE MUST BE PERMITTED TO BUILD
12:24:30PM THESE STRUCTURES WHERE HE WANTS, EVEN THOUGH IT WOULD MEAN
12:24:33PM THE REMOVAL OF NOT ONE BUT TWO HEALTHY GRAND OAK TREES.
12:24:36PM TREES THAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD REPEATEDLY TAMPA NEEDS TO
12:24:39PM PROTECT AND PRESERVE IN ORDER FOR TAMPA'S ECOSYSTEM TO
12:24:42PM REMAIN HEALTHY, PRODUCTIVE AND VIBRANT.
12:24:44PM WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF US?
12:24:45PM WHAT OF OUR DREAM OF HAVING THE ESSENTIAL NATURAL RESOURCES
12:24:49PM THAT ARE REQUIRED TO PROTECT OUR HEALTH AND OUR ECOSYSTEM,
12:24:53PM OUR DREAM FOR PURE OXYGEN.
12:24:55PM DO WE TAMPA RESIDENTS DESERVE TO BREATHE AIR FREE FROM
12:24:59PM POLLUTANTS WHICH GRAND TREES ACTIVELY STORE?
12:25:01PM TAMPA RESIDENTS HAVE A RIGHT TO BENEFIT FROM THE SHADE AND
12:25:03PM LOWERED HEAT INDEX THAT THE TREES PROVIDE TO THE ENTIRE CITY
12:25:07PM AND INCREASINGLY BLISTERING HOT SUMMER MONTHS?
12:25:10PM WHAT ABOUT THE STREET FLOODING THE TREES PREVENT DURING
12:25:13PM NORMAL HEAVY SUMMER RAINS?
12:25:14PM ENTITLED TO DRIVE THROUGH STREETS NOT FLOODED DUE TO HEAVY
12:25:18PM RAINFALL?

12:25:19PM ALL OF US ENTITLED TO ENJOY THE VITAL BENEFITS THAT THE
12:25:23PM GRAND OAKS PROVIDE TO THE CITY AND WILDLIFE?
12:25:26PM OR IS ONE PERSON ENTITLED TO DESTROY TWO HEALTHY GRAND OAKS
12:25:30PM THAT THE CITY VERY MUCH NEEDS WHILE DENYING THE ESSENTIAL
12:25:32PM BENEFITS TO ALL OF US.
12:25:33PM THIS ISN'T EVEN A CASE OF SPLITTING THE BABY.
12:25:36PM REPEAT OF THE OLD SONG, MY WAY.
12:25:39PM IF NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE BUT TO BUILD THIS IN THE VERY SPOT
12:25:43PM WHERE THE TWO GRAND TREES ARE LOCATED THAT WOULD BE A
12:25:45PM SERIOUS CONSIDERATION.
12:25:45PM AGAIN, THE APPLICANT HAS A VERY DEEP LOT IN WHICH TO BUILD
12:25:49PM HIS DREAM AND STILL HAVE THE SAFETY SPACIOUS BACKYARD AND
12:25:52PM YOUNG TREES OF WHICH HE CLAIMS TO BE SO FOND.
12:25:55PM THE DIRE STATE OF TAMPA'S TREE CANOPY SHOULD MEAN THAT THE
12:25:58PM DAYS OF GRATUITOUSLY WASTING ONE OF TAMPA'S PRECIOUS AND
12:26:01PM BENEFICIAL RESOURCES IS REMAINING GRAND TREES IS OVER.
12:26:05PM IT'S UP TO YOU, CITY COUNCIL, TO DECIDE IF INDEED THEY ARE
12:26:07PM OVER AND IF TAMPA WILL NOW EMBARK ON A NEW COURSE TO RESERVE
12:26:11PM THE FEW REMAINING GRAND TREES FOR THE BENEFIT OF TAMPA'S
12:26:14PM PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.
12:26:16PM CITY COUNCIL, FOR TAMPA'S SAKE, PLEASE VOTE TO PRESERVE
12:26:18PM THESE TWO GRAND OAKS.
12:26:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
12:26:21PM YES, MA'AM.
12:26:22PM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

12:26:25PM >> HI.
12:26:27PM I'M PAMELA JACKSON HANEY.
12:26:28PM I'M A MEMBER OF TTAG.
12:26:32PM AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF TAMPA BUDGETS MONEY TO CHECK IN ON
12:26:36PM THE STATE OF OUR TREE CANOPY EVERY FIVE YEARS.
12:26:39PM I APPLAUD THIS EFFORT AND HOPE IT CONTINUES.
12:26:41PM THE LATEST REPORT SHOWS WE ARE AT A CRITICAL POINT RIGHT NOW
12:26:44PM WITH OUR TREE CANOPY, AND WE NEED EVERYONE ON BOARD TO SAVE
12:26:49PM WHAT'S LEFT OF OUR GRAND OAKS WHEN AT ALL POSSIBLE.
12:26:51PM IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT LIVE OAKS ONLY MAKE UP 3% OF TAMPA'S
12:26:56PM TREE CANOPY AND OUR LIVE OAKS ARE THE WORKHORSES OF OUR
12:26:59PM CANOPY AND DESERVE TO BE PROTECTED AND CHERISHED.
12:27:02PM MOST OF THE OAKS THAT ARE COMING DOWN ARE IN RESIDENTIAL
12:27:07PM AREAS.
12:27:07PM IN THE CASE BEFORE US, THE HOMEOWNERS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
12:27:10PM DO THE RIGHT THING.
12:27:11PM THEY CAN STILL HAVE EVERYTHING THEY WANT AND NEED IF THEY
12:27:15PM GIVE THESE TWO GRAND OAKS 20 FEET OF SPACE.
12:27:18PM THEY WOULD JUST NEED TO MOVE THIS NEW ADDITION BACK 22 FEET.
12:27:22PM THAT'S IT.
12:27:23PM THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THEIR ENCLOSED GARAGE WITH AN INTERIOR
12:27:28PM ENTRANCE TO THEIR HOME FOR THEIR SAFETY AND SECURITY.
12:27:31PM BY THE WAY, SAFETY AND SECURITY IS WHAT WAS STATED UNDER
12:27:35PM OATH BEFORE THE VRB THAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT, HOWEVER, NO
12:27:38PM STATISTICS OF CRIME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE PROVIDED.

12:27:41PM THEY MIGHT LOSE A LITTLE BIT OF THEIR BACKYARD, BUT THESE
12:27:45PM HOMEOWNERS HAVE AN AMAZINGLY DEEP BACKYARD THAT MOST OF US
12:27:50PM DREAM OF.
12:27:50PM 200 FEET DEEP.
12:27:52PM ONLY 10% OF THIS YARD WOULD BE AFFECTED.
12:27:54PM HE DISCUSSES SIX OTHER OAK TREES THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED BY
12:27:58PM MOVING THIS ADDITION BACK 22 FEET.
12:28:00PM AGAIN, WITHOUT ANY PROOF.
12:28:03PM AND PROPERTY SURVEY DOESN'T REFLECT THIS IMPACT EITHER AND
12:28:09PM IT WASN'T MENTIONED BY THE FORESTER THAT THERE WOULD BE
12:28:11PM OTHER TREES IMPACTED BY MOVING HIS ADDITION BACK TO SAVE THE
12:28:18PM TREES IN THE FRONT.
12:28:20PM I SEE THAT THERE ARE TWO OAKS BACK HERE, BUT, AGAIN, THEY
12:28:25PM WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED.
12:28:27PM FORTUNATELY, THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS CODES IN PLACE FOR A
12:28:30PM REASON.
12:28:30PM TO BE FOLLOWED FOR THE GOOD OF THE RESIDENTS OF THIS CITY
12:28:33PM AND THE CITY ITSELF.
12:28:34PM THE TREE CODE IS ONE OF THOSE IMPORTANT CODES.
12:28:37PM IN A SEPARATE CASE REGARDING A TREE ON ANOTHER STREET, THE
12:28:41PM CITY ASSURED ME THAT TO SAVE EVEN A HEALTHY SPECIMEN TREE,
12:28:46PM SMALLER THAN A GRAND TREE, NOT A GRAND OAK, THE CITY WILL
12:28:49PM WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE RESIDENT TO MOVE THINGS
12:28:51PM AROUND IN ORDER TO GET THIS DONE.
12:28:53PM IS THERE SOME WIGGLE ROOM TO SAVE THESE TREES?

12:28:57PM IT WAS MENTIONED AT THE VRB MEETING THAT HE COULD HAVE
12:29:00PM ANOTHER FIVE FEET WITH ALTERNATE CONSTRUCTION METHODS,
12:29:05PM ANOTHER FIVE FEET OF ENCROACHMENT WITH ALTERNATE
12:29:07PM CONSTRUCTION METHODS IF HE SO DESIRES.
12:29:09PM CAN HE MOVE GARAGE FARTHER TO THE RIGHT?
12:29:12PM MAYBE SO.
12:29:13PM THE ARCHITECT PROBABLY ALSO NOTES THAT YOUR GARAGE SET BACK
12:29:17PM FROM MAIN HOUSE IS MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
12:29:20PM MORE PARKING SPOTS IN FRONT OF YOUR GARAGE FOR GROWING
12:29:22PM CHILDREN WHO WILL EVENTUALLY DRIVE, WINDOWS THAT LET IN
12:29:25PM LIGHT AND AIR COULD BE SAVED AND YOU WOULD HAVE A LOVELY
12:29:28PM COURTYARD EFFECT IN THE BACKYARD WITH A MASTER SUITE IN THE
12:29:32PM BACK.
12:29:32PM PLEASE SAVE THE TREES.
12:29:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:29:40PM >> I'M ALISON DATE.
12:29:43PM I'VE BEEN SWORN IN.
12:29:46PM I'M A MEMBER OF TAMPA SIERRA CLUB AND ALSO T-TAG.
12:29:52PM SAFETY AND SECURITY CONCERNS WERE STATED AS THE MAIN REASON
12:29:58PM FOR THE OWNER'S REQUEST FOR TREE REMOVAL.
12:30:01PM HOWEVER, USING ALTERNATIVE THREE OR C OR WHATEVER IT IS
12:30:05PM CALLED, THE LAST ONE, ALL OF THESE CONCERNS CAN BE MET AND
12:30:10PM THE TWO GRAND TREES CAN BE PRESERVED.
12:30:14PM THIS HOUSE IS SITUATED ON A BEAUTIFUL TREE-LINED STREET
12:30:18PM WHERE MANY NEIGHBORS HAVE TAKEN GREAT CARE TO PRESERVE THE

12:30:22PM GRAND TREES.
12:30:24PM THIS IS NOT HAPPENING WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION IN OTHER PARTS
12:30:27PM OF TAMPA.
12:30:29PM BY RECORDING THIS ADDITION -- I'M SORRY.
12:30:32PM BY RECONFIGURING THIS ADDITION, THE OWNER WOULD BE PLACING
12:30:36PM THE VALUE OF THE COMMUNITY OVER HIS PERSONAL PREFERENCES AND
12:30:41PM IN MAKING THAT CONCESSION TODAY, HE WOULD IMPROVE -- BY
12:30:47PM MAKING THAT CONCESSION TODAY, HE WOULD IMPROVE THE ABILITY
12:30:51PM TO STOP THE REMOVAL OF GRAND TREES ON BAY AVENUE.
12:30:56PM TO MAINTAIN A TREE-LINED STREET IN THIS ERA REQUIRES A
12:31:00PM CONCERTED EFFORT BY ALL WHO LIVE THERE.
12:31:03PM THAT IS WHY THREE NEIGHBORHOOD -- A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
12:31:09PM LEADERS ARE AGAINST THE TREE REMOVAL AND IT IS WHY THE TREE
12:31:13PM CODE MUST BE FOLLOWED.
12:31:15PM IT'S CRITICAL THAT THE VRB TREATS THE ARBORIST'S TESTIMONY
12:31:21PM AS ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE SOURCES OF INFORMATION
12:31:24PM AVAILABLE.
12:31:25PM IF A PLAN IS FOUND INCONSISTENT AND THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE
12:31:28PM RECONFIGURATIONS TO PROTECT THE TREE, THAT IS WHAT SHOULD BE
12:31:33PM USED.
12:31:33PM DECISIONS BY THE ARBORIST TAKE TIME, ENERGY, AND ARE MADE TO
12:31:38PM ENFORCE THE CITY TREE CODE AND THE MAYOR'S DESIRE TO STOP
12:31:41PM LOSS OF CANOPY.
12:31:42PM IF THE ARBORIST'S RECOMMENDATIONS ARE NOT CONSISTENTLY
12:31:45PM CONSIDERED BY -- AS THE BENCHMARK FOR VRB DECISIONS, THEN

12:31:52PM PETITIONERS WILL CONTINUE TO PLACE THEIR DESIRES ABOVE THOSE
12:31:55PM OF THE CITY AND THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.
12:31:58PM DISCREDITING THE CITY'S PERSONNEL AND PROMOTING FURTHER LOSS
12:32:02PM OF GRAND TREES.
12:32:04PM IF THIS VARIANCE IS ALLOWED, IT WILL SET A PRECEDENT FOR
12:32:08PM MORE CASES THAT PLACE INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS ABOVE THE CITY
12:32:12PM TREE CODE.
12:32:13PM THIS CREATES A WASTE OF CITY'S TIME, MONEY, AND NATURAL
12:32:17PM RESOURCES.
12:32:18PM PLEASE DON'T APPROVE IT.
12:32:20PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:32:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:32:21PM YES, MA'AM.
12:32:22PM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THEN WE HAVE TWO
12:32:25PM REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS ONLINE.
12:32:27PM YES, MA'AM.
12:32:37PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:32:39PM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
12:32:40PM I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THIS IS A HOUSE AT 2807 SANDERS
12:32:46PM DRIVE WITH AN ABSOLUTELY HIDEOUS LOOKING GARAGE SET BACK
12:32:51PM FROM THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
12:32:52PM I JUST WANTED TO SAY AND IT'S JUST AROUND THE CORNER.
12:32:57PM THIS LITTLE TIDBIT OF INFORMATION, I BLEW UP THE MOST
12:33:01PM IMPORTANT PART, BUT THIS IS ABOUT HOW LAND CONSERVATION
12:33:03PM MITIGATES FLOODING AND STORM DAMAGE.

12:33:07PM IT'S FROM THE LOW COUNTRY LAND TRUST, WHICH IS SOUTH
12:33:10PM CAROLINA, OF COURSE.
12:33:11PM IT'S STILL REALLY IMPORTANT.
12:33:13PM A GRAND OAK TREE CAN PROCESS 40,000 GALLONS OF WATER A YEAR.
12:33:18PM 110 GALLONS PER DAY.
12:33:20PM I LOOKED IT UP.
12:33:23PM IF YOU BUILD A WATER TANK TO HOLD IT, IT'S 30 FEET IN
12:33:26PM DIAMETER AND ABOUT 7.5 FEET TALL.
12:33:29PM THAT IS A LOT OF STINKIN' WATER, AND THIS IS TWO.
12:33:33PM THAT'S MUCH LARGER THAN ANY SWIMMING POOL THAT ANYBODY WILL
12:33:37PM HAVE IN THEIR BACKYARD.
12:33:38PM I'M SORRY, ABOUT, HONESTLY, MR. HOUSTON NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND
12:33:41PM THAT THESE TREES BELONG TO EVERYONE.
12:33:44PM I HAVE GRAND TREES ON ONE OF MY LOTS AND I'VE HAD TO TRIM
12:33:49PM THEM BACK.
12:33:50PM I PREFER NOT TO, BUT IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE.
12:33:54PM THE T-TAG LADIES TEND TO BE MUCH NICER THAN I AM AS A RULE.
12:34:00PM I'M NOT SURE WHO CALLED THIS GENTLEMAN IGNORANT, STUPID, OR
12:34:04PM WHATEVER THE OTHER SUPERLATIVE WAS HE WANTED TO USE.
12:34:08PM BUT I'VE BEEN IN ARGUMENTS WITH THE T-TAG LADIES AND THEY
12:34:12PM DIDN'T CALL NAMES THEN.
12:34:13PM THE RESILIENCY OF THE HOMEOWNER HAS ZERO TO DO WITH THE
12:34:18PM DECISION IN THIS CASE.
12:34:20PM WORKS HARD FOR KIDS, THREE OR SCHOOL TEACHERS IN THE ROOM,
12:34:24PM BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE'LL BE ABLE TO CUT DOWN TREES JUST

12:34:28PM BECAUSE WE WANT TO EITHER.
12:34:29PM THE TREES IMPACT ALL OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:34:32PM UNFORTUNATELY, WE'VE CUT DOWN TOO MANY ALREADY AND IT'S TIME
12:34:37PM TO REALLY CONSIDER THIS.
12:34:39PM NOW, REMEMBER, NOT A MILE FROM HIS HOUSE, WE ARE BUILDING A
12:34:45PM NINE-ACRE RETENTION POND FOR STORMWATER FOR NORTH OF GANDY.
12:34:50PM HOW MUCH MONEY WILL WE KEEP DRAGGING OUT WHEN WE DRAG OUT
12:34:53PM THESE TREES AND WE CUT THEM DOWN?
12:34:55PM THINK ABOUT HOW BIG THOSE TWO TREES ALONE ARE SAVING OUR
12:35:00PM CITY FROM HAVING TO SPEND ANOTHER $54 MILLION ON A
12:35:04PM STORMWATER PROJECT.
12:35:06PM THAT'S WHAT THE E.L.A.P.P. PROJECT IS.
12:35:08PM SO IF WE DON'T START SAVING THEM WHEN THEY ARE HEALTHY, ONE
12:35:13PM TREE AT A TIME, BECAUSE, LIKE I'VE SAID, THESE BIG
12:35:17PM MULTIFAMILY UNITS THAT CAME IN SOUTH OF GANDY, THEY DIDN'T
12:35:20PM CUT DOWN BIG TREES.
12:35:22PM THESE TREES WERE LOST ONE TREE AT A TIME AND THIS GENTLEMAN
12:35:27PM IS ASKING FOR TWO.
12:35:29PM I'M SORRY, BUT WHEN MY NEIGHBORS COME TO MY HOUSE AND SAY,
12:35:32PM HEY, I NEED YOU TO WRITE A LETTER FOR ME AND I HAVE TO LIVE
12:35:35PM NEXT TO YOU FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS, I'LL WRITE A LETTER
12:35:38PM BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO START A FIGHT.
12:35:40PM PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO START A FIGHT.
12:35:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:35:45PM MR. SHELBY, WE HAVE TWO REGISTERED SPEAKERS ONLINE.

12:35:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, WHY DON'T WE TAKE THE TWO REGISTERED
12:35:50PM SPEAKERS AND THEN I'LL TALK.
12:35:53PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
12:35:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NANCY STEVENS.
12:35:56PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, TURN ON YOUR CAMERA, UNMUTE
12:36:00PM YOURSELF AND WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.
12:36:19PM >>THE CLERK: DO YOU SWEAR OR AFFIRM THE TESTIMONY YOU ARE
12:36:22PM ABOUT TO GIVE IS THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
12:36:25PM >> I DO.
12:36:27PM >>THE CLERK: THANK YOU.
12:36:29PM >> THANK YOU.
12:36:29PM NANCY STEVENS.
12:36:30PM I'M WITH THE TAMPA BAY SIERRA CLUB AND ALSO WITH TAMPA TREE
12:36:35PM ADVOCACY GROUP.
12:36:36PM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE TREES.
12:36:42PM OF COURSE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, TREES ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT
12:36:48PM FOR CLEANING THE AIR, FLOOD CONTROL, PROVIDING SHELTER,
12:36:52PM SAVING ON AIR CONDITIONING.
12:36:57PM THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A TREE CODE.
12:36:58PM TAMPA, WE VALUE OUR TREES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:37:01PM SO WE HAVE A -- WE SPENT MANY YEARS WRITING THIS TREE CODE
12:37:06PM TO PROTECT THE TREES, BUT ALSO TO GIVE RESIDENTS AND
12:37:10PM PROPERTY OWNERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP THE TREES THEY WANT
12:37:14PM TO KEEP, BUT IF THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR
12:37:17PM PROPERTY, THERE IS A WAY FOR THEM TO BUILD ON THE PROPERTY

12:37:22PM AND GET A WAY TO REMOVE ANY TREES THAT ARE IN THE WAY.
12:37:28PM HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, THIS IS A BIG PROPERTY AND ONE OF THE
12:37:37PM ASPECTS OF THE TREE CODE IS THE ABILITY TO DO REASONABLE
12:37:40PM RECONFIGURATION OF A PROPOSAL TO SAVE THE TREES.
12:37:45PM AND IN THIS CASE, THERE IS A REASONABLE RECONFIGURATION
12:37:48PM AVAILABLE THAT WOULD SAVE THE TWO GRAND TREES AND ALLOW THE
12:37:51PM PROPERTY OWNER TO PROVIDE THE ADDITION THAT HE REQUIRES AND
12:37:54PM NEEDS.
12:37:55PM I JUST ASK YOU TODAY TO RESPECT TAMPA'S TREE CODE AND THE
12:38:03PM TREES THAT ARE CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE WHOLE
12:38:05PM COMMUNITY AND NOT GRANT THE VARIANCE BUT PROTECT THE TREES.
12:38:11PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:38:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:38:13PM ROCKY MILBURN.
12:38:15PM IS ROCKY MILBURN ON?
12:38:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF HE'S NOT ABLE TO GET ON, HOW LONG.
12:38:39PM >>THE CLERK: [INAUDIBLE]
12:38:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T THINK IF HE'S NOT ABLE TO GET ON
12:38:43PM YOU'RE ABLE TO TAKE HIS TESTIMONY.
12:38:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FAIR ENOUGH.
12:38:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN, WITH REGARD TO THE TESTIMONY --
12:38:49PM AND MAYBE MS. JOHNSON VELEZ WILL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT
12:38:52PM THIS -- BUT THE PURPOSE OF YOU TAKING THE TESTIMONY IS TO
12:38:55PM DETERMINE COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
12:38:57PM AND, AGAIN, THAT IS -- FOR INSTANCE, THERE WAS TESTIMONY

12:39:00PM JUST -- FOR INSTANCE, THE OPINION OF NEIGHBORHOOD
12:39:06PM ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS --
12:39:07PM BUT I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR, AND ALSO TO GIVE THE
12:39:14PM OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT, TO GIVE THE
12:39:14PM OPPORTUNITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNER TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT
12:39:17PM BEFORE THE FINAL WORD IS OF --
12:39:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. SHELBY, THAT IS NOT ONE OF THE
12:39:22PM PROCEDURES.
12:39:22PM THE NEXT PART IS ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMENTARY AND THEN
12:39:26PM REBUTTAL BY THE APPLICANT, NOT THE PROPERTY OWNER.
12:39:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY I DID NOT HAVE AN
12:39:32PM OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS BEFORE IT WAS DISTRIBUTED.
12:39:36PM IN MY OPINION, BASED ON THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY THAT WAS TAKEN,
12:39:38PM I BELIEVE THE PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD AT LEAST BE GIVEN
12:39:39PM SEVERAL MINUTES TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT UNLESS
12:39:41PM MS. BENNETT WANTS TO MAKE AN OBJECTION FOR THE RECORD.
12:39:44PM I'M JUST ASKING MS. BENNETT, DO YOU HAVE AN OBJECTION YOU
12:39:48PM WANT TO MAKE FOR THE RECORD TO GIVE THE PROPERTY OWNER AN
12:39:49PM OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS --
12:39:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS 12:40.
12:39:52PM WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH THIS.
12:39:53PM A HANGRY COUNCIL IS NOT A GREAT COUNCIL.
12:39:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I KNOW THAT.
12:39:58PM COUNCILWOMAN, I RESPECT THAT.
12:40:00PM I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT DUE PROCESS REQUIRES DUE PROCESS.

12:40:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET'S HAVE THE HOMEOWNER HAVE A FEW MINUTES
12:40:07PM AND THEN LET'S HAVE THE APPLICANT HAVE A FEW MINUTES AND
12:40:10PM THEN WE CAN MOVE ON.
12:40:14PM >> THANK YOU.
12:40:14PM I UNDERSTAND.
12:40:15PM I'M STARVING, TOO.
12:40:16PM I APOLOGIZE.
12:40:17PM BUT THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TALK ONE LAST TIME.
12:40:19PM IF I HEARD THE ARBORIST CORRECTLY WHEN HE SPOKE RECENTLY A
12:40:24PM FEW MINUTES AGO, IF I REMOVE THAT BRANCH TO MAKE THE HOME
12:40:28PM SAFER, THEN THE TREE POTENTIALLY BECOMES DIMINISHED.
12:40:31PM I'VE HEARD A LOT OF STATISTICS.
12:40:36PM I'M NOT SURE WITH RESPECT THE RELEVANCE BECAUSE WE ARE TO
12:40:41PM FOCUS ON STANDARDS, AND THE REASONABLE CONFIGURATION.
12:40:46PM I ALSO WANT TO JUST STATE THAT THE VRB HEARD THIS ARGUMENT
12:40:52PM IN OCTOBER AND APPROVED IT.
12:40:55PM I GOT HERE AT 4:00 IN OCTOBER AND LEFT AT ALMOST 11.
12:40:59PM SO THIS IS IMPORTANT TO MY FAMILY AND I.
12:41:02PM AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT -- I'M SORRY.
12:41:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
12:41:11PM >> AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT OTHER ITEMS IN ACCELA, WHICH I
12:41:16PM BELIEVE IS THE FILE.
12:41:18PM THERE IS ONE NEIGHBOR, ONE NEIGHBOR, AND MS. POYNOR SPOKE
12:41:22PM ABOUT ASKING YOUR NEIGHBORS TO WRITE A LETTER AND NOT
12:41:26PM WANTING TO GET IN A FIGHT.

12:41:27PM ONE PERSON ON A DIFFERENT STREET WROTE A LETTER WHO LIVES
12:41:32PM WITHIN 250 FEET OF MY HOUSE.
12:41:34PM SHE DIDN'T SHOW UP.
12:41:36PM I DON'T KNOW.
12:41:38PM FOR ME, SOMEONE WHO SORT OF SERVES AS VICE PRINCIPAL AND HAS
12:41:42PM TO ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS, I'M NOT SURE FOR ME IF THAT
12:41:45PM PASSES THE SMELL TEST TO BE REAL HONEST WITH YOU.
12:41:48PM I'D BE A LOT MORE APPRECIATIVE IF SHE WOULD HAVE SHOWN UP
12:41:51PM TODAY AND A LOT LESS CONCERNED ABOUT WHY SHE DIDN'T.
12:41:54PM WITH THAT SAID, THE LAST TIME I WAS IN THIS ROOM IN OCTOBER,
12:41:58PM I HEARD THAT T-TAG GROUP APPROVED THE REMOVAL OF A GRAND OAK
12:42:04PM I BELIEVE IN THE PALMA CEIA AREA SOMEWHERE AND ALREADY AN
12:42:07PM EXISTING HOME.
12:42:08PM A LADY WANTED TO PUT A HOME ADDITION ON.
12:42:10PM SO I GUESS SOME GRAND OAKS ARE MORE VALUABLE THAN OTHERS OR
12:42:17PM MAYBE THE GOOD OL' BOYS NETWORK IS IN FULL FORCE SOMETIMES.
12:42:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:42:21PM ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF?
12:42:23PM IF NOT, I'LL GO TO REBUTTAL BY MS. BENNETT.
12:42:30PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
12:42:32PM DEPARTMENT.
12:42:33PM I WANTED TO REFOCUS COUNCIL MAYBE BEFORE THE PETITIONER'S
12:42:37PM REPRESENTATIVE.
12:42:38PM SO YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS TODAY.
12:42:41PM I WILL SAY THAT WE DID CONFIRM THAT THE PETITIONER BEFORE

12:42:44PM YOU TODAY THAT IS CHALLENGING THIS VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD
12:42:48PM APPROVAL IS -- DOES QUALIFY TO BE A PETITIONER FOR THIS
12:42:53PM PROCEEDING.
12:42:54PM THEY WERE A PERSON WITHIN THE 250-FOOT MAILING RADIUS, SO
12:43:00PM THEY DO QUALIFY, GRAHAM DOES QUALIFY.
12:43:05PM AGAIN, THE VARIANCE REVIEW PROCESS IS TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR
12:43:10PM NOT SOMEONE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VARY FROM THE CODE BASED ON
12:43:13PM A HARDSHIP.
12:43:14PM SO YOU'VE HEARD TALK THIS MORNING ABOUT THE SAFETY ASPECTS
12:43:18PM OF THIS TREE.
12:43:19PM THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE THAT COMES BEFORE THE VARIANCE REVIEW
12:43:22PM BOARD.
12:43:23PM AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO REFOCUS THAT, AND THERE IS A
12:43:28PM SEPARATE PROCESS.
12:43:29PM IF THERE IS A TREE THAT IS POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS.
12:43:33PM YOU'VE ALSO HEARD ABOUT LETTERS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED.
12:43:37PM AGAIN, THIS IS NOT POPULARITY CONTEST.
12:43:40PM YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE STANDARD IN QUASI-JUDICIAL
12:43:42PM PROCEEDINGS.
12:43:43PM I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT EACH VARIANCE CASE MUST BE CONSIDERED
12:43:48PM FOR THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY BECAUSE IT IS BASED ON UNIQUE
12:43:51PM SITUATIONS ON PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
12:43:53PM SO WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED IN ANOTHER VARIANCE CASE OR ON
12:43:56PM ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY WOULD NOT BE RELEVANT TO YOUR
12:43:59PM CONSIDERATION TODAY.

12:44:00PM I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF -- I GAVE YOU THE CODE SECTIONS FOR
12:44:03PM THE GRANTING OF THE VARIANCE AND I ALSO GAVE YOU THE TREE
12:44:06PM CODE.
12:44:06PM SO THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD IS ONE OF THOSE BOARDS WHICH
12:44:10PM HAVE BEEN DELEGATED VIA AUTHORITY TO CONSIDER TREE REMOVAL
12:44:15PM PERMITS.
12:44:16PM WHEN YOU COME BEFORE THE BOARD, THE BOARD, THOUGH, IS ONLY
12:44:19PM AUTHORIZED TO GRANT VARIANCES IF THE APPLICATION MEETS THE
12:44:22PM CRITERIA.
12:44:23PM AGAIN, ONE OF THEM IS A HARDSHIP.
12:44:24PM SO IN ORDER TO KIND OF RECONCILE THE TREE CODE, REASONABLE
12:44:28PM RECONFIGURATION WITH THE HARDSHIP CRITERIA, IF YOU CAN
12:44:34PM REASONABLY RECONFIGURE, THEN THAT CAN BE TAKEN INTO
12:44:38PM CONSIDERATION INTO WHETHER A HARDSHIP EXISTS.
12:44:40PM IF YOU CANNOT REASONABLY RECONFIGURE, CONVERSELY THAT WOULD
12:44:44PM BE A CONSIDERATION AS TO WHETHER A HARDSHIP EXISTS.
12:44:47PM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL DELIBERATIONS OR
12:44:53PM AFTER YOU HEAR FROM THE PETITIONER ON REBUTTAL, BUT I WANTED
12:44:56PM TO CLARIFY THOSE POINTS.
12:44:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AT THIS TIME I'LL GO TO REBUTTAL BY THE
12:45:01PM REPRESENTATIVE.
12:45:01PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
12:45:02PM GO AHEAD, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
12:45:03PM >> MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
12:45:05PM SOME OF YOU WERE ON COUNCIL WHEN THE NEW TREE CODE WAS

12:45:08PM FORMED.
12:45:09PM IT WAS A VERY LONG COLLABORATION BETWEEN BUILDERS,
12:45:13PM DEVELOPERS, CONSERVATIONISTS, AND WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT.
12:45:16PM ONE OF THE BIG COMPROMISES THAT THE CONSERVATIONIST MADE WAS
12:45:19PM THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE WHICH ALLOWED ADMINISTRATIVE AUTOMATIC
12:45:24PM APPROVAL OF A TREE NO MATTER WHAT ITS STATUS WAS, IF IT WAS
12:45:29PM IN THE BUILDING ENVELOPE AND THE ADVANTAGE WAS THAT THAT
12:45:34PM MEANT THAT ANYTHING THAT WAS NOT IN THE TREE REMOVAL ZONE
12:45:38PM THAT IT WOULD BE PRESERVED.
12:45:40PM IT MEANT THAT THOSE TREES WOULD BE -- THE TREE CODE WOULD BE
12:45:46PM RESPECTED AND THOSE TREES WOULD NOT JUST BE FRIVOLOUSLY
12:45:50PM REMOVED.
12:45:51PM JOE CHILLURA WHO RECENTLY PASSED AWAY WROTE THE TREE CODE IN
12:45:55PM THE 1970s THAT HAS GIVEN US THE CANOPY WE HAVE TODAY THAT
12:46:00PM BENEFITED ALL OF US.
12:46:01PM IF WEREN'T FOR HIM, THE TREE CANOPY WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT
12:46:04PM SMALLER BECAUSE SOME PERSON WANTS TO CUT DOWN A TREE.
12:46:08PM THE CODE REQUIRES THAT ALTERNATE CONFIGURATION MUST BE
12:46:11PM CONSIDERED IF IT CAN CONSERVE THE TREE.
12:46:15PM IT HAS BEEN PROVEN, TWO PLANS, BOTH OF THEM PRESERVE THE
12:46:19PM TREES AND THEY ARE BOTH REASONABLE RECONFIGURATIONS.
12:46:24PM HE SAID THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO CUT DOWN OTHER OAKS ON THE
12:46:26PM PROPERTY.
12:46:27PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURVEY, YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT ISN'T TRUE.
12:46:31PM THESE ARE THE TWO CLOSEST ONE.

12:46:33PM 18-INCH AND 20 SOMETHING INCH.
12:46:35PM THEY ARE WELL AWAY, EVEN IF YOU PUSH IT BACK, THEY ARE WELL
12:46:38PM AWAY AND WOULD NOT NEED TO BE REMOVED.
12:46:41PM IF YOU THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, YOU CAN ASK MR. EYSTER
12:46:44PM ABOUT THAT.
12:46:45PM THE PALMA CEIA TREE, I'M GLAD HE BROUGHT THAT UP.
12:46:48PM THE PALMA CEIA TREE, I SPOKE IN FAVOR OF REMOVING THE TREE
12:46:52PM BECAUSE IT WAS HAZARDOUS.
12:46:54PM BECAUSE IT QUALIFIED TO BE REMOVED AS A HAZARDOUS TREE.
12:46:57PM IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO REMOVE THAT TREE AND I SPOKE IN FAVOR
12:47:00PM OF REMOVING THAT TREE.
12:47:01PM I'M SURE MR. HOUSTON IS A WONDERFUL PERSON.
12:47:05PM HE SAID ALL THE GREAT THINGS HE DOES AND THAT'S GREAT.
12:47:08PM I BELIEVE HIM.
12:47:09PM I THINK HE'S FANTASTIC.
12:47:10PM BUT THAT'S NOT -- THAT'S IRRELEVANT.
12:47:14PM IT'S NOT WHAT YOU ARE TO CONSIDER TODAY.
12:47:17PM IF THIS TREE IS A SAFETY CONCERN, HAZARDOUS, THERE IS
12:47:20PM ANOTHER AVENUE TO PURSUE.
12:47:22PM IT'S IN THE CITY CODE, AND THAT'S WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO.
12:47:25PM AS YOU'VE HEARD TODAY, HE'S NOT GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL
12:47:27PM BECAUSE IT ISN'T A SAFETY HAZARD.
12:47:30PM YOU CAN ONLY USE THE VARIANCE CRITERIA, WHICH HAS
12:47:33PM MS. JOHNSON-VELEZ HAS SAID, YOU HAVE TO LOOK.
12:47:38PM IT DOESN'T CREATE A HARDSHIP THAT PROHIBITS REASONABLE USE

12:47:40PM OF THE PROPERTY.
12:47:42PM THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.
12:47:44PM THERE'S REASONABLE USE OF THE PROPERTY GOING ON NOW.
12:47:47PM A GARAGE FLUSH WITH THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, NOT THE FRONT
12:47:51PM PORCH IS NOT UNUSUAL.
12:47:52PM IT'S NOT ATTRACTIVE, AND EVEN IF IT WAS, YOU CAN'T CONSIDER
12:47:56PM IT.
12:47:56PM NOT COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE.
12:47:58PM PLENTY OF NEIGHBORS WHO WROTE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION.
12:48:00PM YES, THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON WHO FILED A PETITION.
12:48:03PM BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT ALWAYS IS.
12:48:05PM ONLY ONE PERSON IS NEEDED TO FILE A PETITION TO APPEAL IT.
12:48:08PM THE PETITION COSTS $271.
12:48:11PM YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE 6 PEOPLE COMING IN, EACH ONE FILING
12:48:15PM A SEPARATE PETITION FOR $271 TO APPEAL IT.
12:48:19PM THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
12:48:21PM THAT'S IRRELEVANT.
12:48:23PM THE TREES BENEFIT EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.
12:48:25PM THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE CITY TREE CODE.
12:48:27PM IF YOU BUY A HOUSE WITHOUT A GARAGE, YOU CANNOT TURN AROUND
12:48:31PM AND SAY YOUR HARDSHIP IS, I DON'T HAVE A GARAGE.
12:48:34PM MR. HOUSTON AND HIS FAMILY CAN HAVE EVERYTHING THEY WANT.
12:48:39PM THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM ON THIS PROPERTY TO GIVE THEM THE
12:48:43PM GARAGE, WHICH THEY ARE NOT OWED, BUT TO GIVE THEM THE GARAGE
12:48:46PM AND AN ADDITION.

12:48:47PM ANY ARCHITECT CAN FIGURE IT OUT AS THE VRB ARCHITECT
12:48:51PM TESTIFIED TO WHEN SHE VOTED NO.
12:48:53PM PLEASE SAVE THESE TREES.
12:48:54PM PLEASE FOLLOW THE CODE AND THE CRITERIA OF THE VARIANCE
12:48:58PM REVIEW PROCESS, THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS OF IT AND SAVE THESE
12:49:02PM TREES.
12:49:03PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:49:04PM >> MOTION TO CLOSE.
12:49:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION -- YES, MA'AM.
12:49:07PM IS THE GENTLEMAN ON WITH HIS CAMERA?
12:49:09PM ALL RIGHT.
12:49:10PM ROCKY MILBURN, PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERA.
12:49:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:49:15PM I'M SORRY.
12:49:16PM WE'RE PAST TIME FOR THAT.
12:49:18PM WE CAN INQUIRE OF MR. MILBURN IF THAT PERSON IS NOTICED,
12:49:22PM RECEIVES NOTICE AND LIVES WITHIN 250 FEET.
12:49:25PM THAT MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
12:49:27PM OTHERWISE, WE'RE ALREADY PAST THE POINT.
12:49:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO ALLOW BOTH --
12:49:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXACTLY.
12:49:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MILBURN, ARE YOU IN THE NOTICE AREA
12:49:38PM WITHIN THE 250 FEET?
12:49:39PM DID YOU RECEIVE NOTICE ON THIS ISSUE?
12:49:42PM THIS QUESTION IS FOR ROCKY MILBURN.

12:49:47PM >> NO, I'M NOT.
12:49:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:49:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, SIR.
12:49:51PM I'M SORRY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE OF TECHNICAL ISSUES
12:49:54PM WE'RE NOT ABLE TO TAKE YOUR TESTIMONY.
12:49:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA WITH THE MOTION TO
12:49:59PM CLOSE.
12:50:00PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WITH THE SECOND.
12:50:01PM ALL IN FAVOR?
12:50:01PM AYE.
12:50:02PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
12:50:04PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YES, MA'AM.
12:50:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:50:06PM AS A FORMER MEMBER OF THE VRB I AM SHOCKED THAT THIS CASE IS
12:50:10PM HERE BECAUSE IT'S INCREDIBLY CLEAR THAT THEY DID NOT LOOK AT
12:50:13PM THE TREE CODE.
12:50:14PM SAFETY IS VERY IMPORTANT.
12:50:16PM TREES ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
12:50:18PM BUT THE TREE CODE IS VERY CLEAR.
12:50:21PM THE VRB CODE OF ORDINANCES IS VERY CLEAR.
12:50:25PM SECTION 27-80, SUBSECTION A, SUBSECTIONS 2, THE HARDSHIP OR
12:50:31PM PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY DOES OR DOES NOT RESULT FROM THE ACTION
12:50:35PM OF THE APPLICANT, A SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP OR PRACTICAL
12:50:38PM DIFFICULTY SHALL NOT JUSTIFY A VARIANCE.
12:50:40PM AND THAT'S IT FOR ME.

12:50:42PM AND IT SHOWS VERY CLEARLY CODE 27-284.2.5.F, SUBSECTION 4
12:50:55PM WHAT WE ARE TO CONSIDER.
12:50:56PM SUBSECTION 4, SUBSECTION B, WHETHER THE PROPOSED BUILDING
12:51:02PM STRUCTURE CAN BE REASONABLY RECONFIGURED AS DEFINED IN TABLE
12:51:05PM 284.2-5 TO PRESERVE THE GRAND TREES REQUESTED FOR REMOVAL
12:51:10PM INCLUDING THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE NATURAL RESOURCE
12:51:12PM COORDINATOR OR DESIGNEE.
12:51:14PM AND WHETHER ALTERNATIVE -- D, WHETHER ALTERNATIVE
12:51:18PM CONSTRUCTION METHODS CAN BE UTILIZED TO PRESERVE THE GRAND
12:51:21PM TREE REQUESTED FOR REMOVAL UP TO THE CRITICAL ROOT ZONE.
12:51:25PM SO I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO OVERTURN THE DECISION OF
12:51:33PM THE BOARD AND SAY THAT THIS VARIANCE IS NOT APPROVABLE.
12:51:42PM SO IT'S VRB 23-55 PERTAINING TO THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2802
12:51:47PM WEST BAY AVENUE THAT WE OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE VRB
12:51:52PM BECAUSE OF SECTION 27-80, SUBSECTIONS A, SUBSECTIONS 2,
12:51:59PM HARDSHIP OR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY DOES RESULT FROM THE ACTION
12:52:02PM OF APPLICANT, SELF-CREATED HARDSHIP FOR PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY
12:52:05PM DOES NOT JUSTIFY A VARIANCE.
12:52:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
12:52:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 27-284.2.5. F SUBSECTION 4 SUBSECTION B, THE
12:52:17PM BUILDING CAN BE REASONABLY RECONFIGURED AS DEFINED IN TABLE
12:52:21PM 284.2.5 TO PRESERVE THE GRAND TREE REQUESTED FOR REMOVAL,
12:52:27PM INCLUDING THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE NATURAL RESOURCES
12:52:29PM COORDINATOR OR DESIGNEE AND, D, WHETHER THE ALTERNATIVE
12:52:32PM CONSTRUCTION METHODS COULD BE UTILIZED TO PRESERVE THE GRAND

12:52:35PM TREE REQUESTED.
12:52:37PM SAFETY IS NOT AN ISSUE HERE.
12:52:43PM LETTERS ARE NOT AN ISSUE.
12:52:45PM IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CODE.
12:52:46PM AND THE CODE CLEARLY SAYS IF YOU CAN RECONFIGURE, YOU NEED
12:52:49PM TO RECONFIGURE.
12:52:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
12:52:52PM HURTAK.
12:52:52PM SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
12:52:54PM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU WISH TO SPEAK?
12:52:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE.
12:52:59PM I WILL BE SUPPORTING COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S MOTION.
12:53:02PM THIS IS ONE WHERE WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OBJECTIVE RULES
12:53:05PM THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, LEADS IN MY OPINION TO ONE
12:53:09PM CONCLUSION THAT COUNCIL HAS TO MAKE.
12:53:11PM I WANTED TO SPEAK BECAUSE MR. HOUSTON SEEMS LIKE A VERY NICE
12:53:16PM GENTLEMAN AND A FAMILY MAN AND EDUCATOR, AND THAT OBVIOUSLY
12:53:19PM HAS NO BEARING ON THIS ISSUE, BUT JUST WANTED TO STATE MY
12:53:25PM RATIONALE FOR THE VOTE.
12:53:26PM I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN CASES LIKE THIS THERE ARE CERTAIN TOOLS
12:53:29PM AND GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE, AND LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, THERE IS
12:53:33PM A STOOL AND THERE ARE LEGS, AND YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE LEGS TO
12:53:36PM SUPPORT THE STOOL OF YOUR DECISION.
12:53:38PM I THINK ON THIS, THEY ARE GOING AGAINST THE MOTION, THERE
12:53:43PM ARE NO LEGS FOR THAT STOOL, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE TO

12:53:46PM ANYBODY.
12:53:46PM AGAIN, JUST EXPLAINING.
12:53:47PM I'LL BE GLAD TO SUPPORT IT.
12:53:49PM THANK YOU.
12:53:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:53:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: JUST LOOKING AT THE SAME THING AS COUNCIL
12:53:54PM MEMBER HURTAK SPOKE ABOUT AND WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA JUST
12:53:58PM SAID.
12:53:58PM THE PETITIONER CERTAINLY IS A FAMILY MAN, WANTS TO DO THE
12:54:05PM BEST THING HE CAN FOR HIS PROPERTY, HOWEVER THAT DOESN'T
12:54:09PM MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD.
12:54:11PM I THINK THEY ERRORED.
12:54:13PM MOVING THE PROJECT BACK A FEW FEET.
12:54:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, SECOND BY
12:54:22PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
12:54:23PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:54:23PM WELCOME CLENDENIN?
12:54:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
12:54:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:54:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
12:54:30PM >> CARLSON?
12:54:30PM HURTAK?
12:54:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:54:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:54:34PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CLENDENIN

12:54:37PM AND CARLSON BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
12:54:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:54:40PM WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 2:15.
12:54:44PM [LUNCH RECESS]

02:21:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
02:21:51PM ROLL CALL PLEASE.
02:21:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
02:22:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT, THANK YOU.
02:22:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
02:22:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
02:22:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
02:22:07PM >>CLERK: YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
02:22:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:22:09PM WE WILL START OFF WITH ITEM NUMBER 65.
02:22:12PM WE HAVE MISS MALONE.
02:22:14PM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
02:22:15PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS, JENNIFER
02:22:21PM MALONE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
02:22:23PM A LETTER AND A MEMORANDUM IN YOUR PACKET WHERE WE HAVE
02:22:26PM OUTLINED -- THIS IS ABOUT THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
02:22:31PM UPDATE AND THE USE ASSESSMENT THAT WE UPDATE EVERYTHING WE
02:22:35PM DO SINCE WE CAME TO YOU IN SEPTEMBER.
02:22:36PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING SINCE SEPTEMBER FROM AN INDEPENDENT
02:22:40PM CONSULTANT TO COME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OUR FUTURE
02:22:44PM LAND USE ASSESSMENT.
02:22:45PM WE HEARD WHAT YOU SAID.
02:22:46PM WE THINK WE ARE WORKING ON ADDRESSING ALL OF THOSE IDEAS.
02:22:50PM THERE WILL BE -- WE ARE SYNTHESIZING THOSE LAND -- INCORPORATE
02:22:54PM THOSE INTO TRACKING LANGUAGE.
02:22:55PM WE WILL BE HOSTING OUTREACH LATER THIS YEAR AS WE DID WITH
02:22:59PM THE OTHER SECTIONS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATES.
02:23:02PM SO FAR WE HAVE MOBILITY, ENVIRONMENTAL AND ONE WATER THAT
02:23:06PM HAS BEEN BEFORE YOU AND EACH OF THOSE OUTREACH MEETINGS
02:23:09PM ALONG THE WAY FOR THE PUBLIC.
02:23:10PM THAT IS FORTHCOMING.
02:23:12PM WE ARE WRITING POLICY.
02:23:13PM WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU WITH OUTREACH MEETINGS AND COME
02:23:16PM BACK WITH YOU WITH THE LANGUAGE LATER THIS YEAR WHEN IT IS
02:23:19PM INITIATED AS A PLAN AMENDMENT.
02:23:20PM THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT SECTION.
02:23:22PM A LOT OF INTEREST IN IT.
02:23:24PM WE ARE TAKING SUGGESTIONS MOVING FORWARD ON THAT PROCESS.
02:23:30PM WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF THE WORK DONE TO
02:23:34PM DATE AND THE NEXT STEPS IN THE PROCESS.
02:23:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:23:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
02:23:39PM I AM HAPPY YOU GOT TO THIS POINT AND LOOK GOOD TO GETTING
02:23:44PM THIS BACK WITH COUNCIL'S BLESSING TO WORK THROUGH THE
02:23:50PM CONCEPT AND HAVE THIS IN FRONT OF.
02:23:57PM AND I KNOW IT IS A VERY BIG PROJEC, AND IT WILL BE VERY
02:24:01PM IMPORTANT TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:24:03PM THANK YOU.
02:24:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:24:09PM I WANT TO WHAT -- I AM MESSING YOU UP TODAY.
02:24:16PM AS COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN SAID, I PARTICULARLY LIKE THE TABLE.
02:24:19PM I ALSO LIKE THE CITY OF TAMPA'S TABLE.
02:24:21PM I THOUGHT I JUST MADE IT CLEAR.
02:24:23PM FOR THE PUBLIC, JUST KNOWING THAT WE WILL HAVE MORE
02:24:27PM CONVERSATIONS AS WE PUT THIS LANGUAGE TOGETHER.
02:24:29PM JUST WANT TO REALLY THANK YOU.
02:24:30PM I THINK -- IT IS AN EXCITING TIME TO BE HERE JENNIFER
02:24:35PM THANKS.
02:24:35PM I WAS REMISS TO MENTION THE GREAT WORK WITH STEVEN BENSON
02:24:39PM AND HIS DEPARTMENT.
02:24:40PM WE WOULDN'T BE IN FRONT OF YOU WITH THESE IDEAS IF NOT FOR HIS
02:24:44PM INPUT AND BRAIN POWER AS WELL.
02:24:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
02:24:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I SEE YOU REFERENCING SOMETHING, AND I DON'T
02:24:52PM SEE IT ON ON BASE.
02:24:55PM SOMETHING YOU GAVE TO THE CLERK TO UPLOAD.
02:24:57PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: I THOUGHT I SAW ON BASE AND IT WAS IN
02:25:00PM THERE.
02:25:00PM >> IT WAS IN THERE.
02:25:02PM THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED FROM JANUARY AND THIS MAY BE WHY.
02:25:08PM IT IS IN THE BACKUP FOR THIS ONE.
02:25:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION TO FIND OUT WHAT WE
02:25:13PM DO IN THE FUTURE WITH CONTINUED THINGS.
02:25:16PM >> I WILL DOUBLE THEY CAN.
02:25:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE ENTIRETY OF ITEM 65.
02:25:25PM YOU DON'T NEED ANY UPDATES.
02:25:28PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: WE DON'T NEED A UPDATE.
02:25:30PM THAT WAS THE ENTIRETY OF IT.
02:25:31PM THANK YOU.
02:25:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:25:34PM DID YOU SPEAK TO CHIEF TRIPP?
02:25:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: I DID.
02:25:37PM THANK YOU, SIR.
02:25:38PM FOR THE TWO FIRE ITEMS.
02:25:39PM I AM FINE WITH THE MEMO.
02:25:41PM I WAS COMMUNICATING TO CHIEF TRIPP, AND SHE SPENT ENOUGH TIME
02:25:49PM IN TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
02:25:51PM AND I WOULD BRIEFLY COME BACK TO HER, AND I BRING UP ISSUES
02:25:58PM TO SPEAK WITH HER.
02:25:58PM AND WHEN THEY COME, I WILL TALK ABOUT THEM.
02:26:02PM AND DO NOT.
02:26:03PM >> IS THIS 57 AND 58?
02:26:07PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
02:26:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
02:26:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHEN THEY COME, I WANT TO TALK OF WHAT TO DO
02:26:15PM --
02:26:16PM ARE THEY UP NOW?
02:26:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO -- WE WILL GET TO IT WHEN WE GET TO
02:26:20PM IT.
02:26:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: IN OTHER WORDS, I DO NOT NEED CHIEF TRIPP OR
02:26:25PM EVERYONE HERE TODAY.
02:26:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL GO TO ITEM NUMBER 55.
02:26:29PM MR. HARVEY.
02:26:30PM >>DAVID HARVEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:26:38PM DAVID HARVEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:26:41PM ITEM 55 IS A RESOLUTION OF THE ROBERT DUBOIS CASE THAT IS
02:26:46PM PENDING IN FEDERAL COURT.
02:26:47PM AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE CLOSED SESSION ON FEBRUARY 1, THE
02:26:51PM TENTATIVE SETTLEMENT $14 MILLION PAYABLE OVER THREE
02:26:55PM INSTALLMENTS FOR THE REASONS WE DISCUSSED AT THE CLOSED SESSION.
02:27:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE WE ALLOWED TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS
02:27:07PM AFTER THIS VOTE IS TAKEN OR NO?
02:27:10PM >>DAVID HARVEY: YEAH, I THINK AFTER THE VOTE IS FINE.
02:27:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY COUNCILMEMBERS WISH TO MAKE THIS
02:27:15PM MOTION OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
02:27:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL MAKE IT.
02:27:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND A
02:27:23PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:27:24PM IF NOT, A ROLL CALL VOTE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT.
02:27:29PM ALL RIGHT, ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:27:31PM THIS IS 55.
02:27:32PM MOVING THE RESOLUTION.
02:27:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:27:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:27:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:27:41PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:27:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:27:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:27:48PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
02:27:52PM ABSENT AT VOTE.
02:27:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: APPROPRIATE TO SPEAK NOW?
02:27:56PM >> IF COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, YES.
02:27:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM SPEAKING ON MY OWN CAPACITY.
02:28:00PM I AM GRATEFUL WE HAVE ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE.
02:28:03PM GROUPS LIKE THE INNOCENCE PROJECT.
02:28:07PM THE STATE ATTORNEY WAS DISCUSSING HOW THIS BECAME TO BE
02:28:10PM AFTER 40 YEARS.
02:28:11PM I AM BORN IN 1984, AND THIS CASE BEGAN IN 1983.
02:28:15PM I MEAN THAT IS A LIFETIME.
02:28:16PM I AM ALMOST 40 YEARS OLD.
02:28:26PM I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT IS LIKE WITHOUT WALKING IN THOSE
02:28:32PM FOOTSTEPS.
02:28:33PM JUSTICE WAS SERVED IN THIS CAPACITY.
02:28:38PM A GENTLEMAN WAS GIVEN A SECOND CHANCE AFTER MUCH SUFFERING.
02:28:43PM HOW DO YOU EVEN PUT IT INTO WORDS.
02:28:45PM BUT AT LEAST A PROCESS.
02:28:49PM AND GO AND LIVE HIS LIFE.
02:28:50PM DECADES UNFULFILLED.
02:28:57PM WHAT COULD HIS LIFE HAVE BEEN?
02:29:09PM WE VOTED ON THIS SETTLEMENT.
02:29:11PM NOT SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CITY, BEST OF LUCK TO THE
02:29:15PM GENTLEMAN AND WISH HIM ALL THE HAPPINESS IN THE WORLD MOVING
02:29:18PM FORWARD.
02:29:18PM ANYBODY ELSE?
02:29:20PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:29:22PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:29:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
02:29:27PM I WANT TO FIRST OFF ACKNOWLEDGE OUR FORMER STATE ATTORNEY
02:29:30PM ANDREW WARREN FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT HE DID WITH HIS TEAM
02:29:33PM ON THIS.
02:29:34PM YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE A PROSECUTOR, YOU HAVE TO BE A
02:29:37PM THOUGHTFUL PROSECUTOR TO GO -- CERTAINLY GO AFTER CRIMES AND
02:29:42PM WHATNOT.
02:29:43PM BUT MAKE SURE THAT THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE PAST
02:29:46PM HAVE BEEN CORRECT.
02:29:47PM AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY INCORRECT AND
02:29:51PM REPRESENTED A GREAT INJUSTICE.
02:29:52PM AND I SALUTE ANDREW WARREN AND FORMER JUDGE SECOND COURT
02:29:56PM DISTRICT.
02:29:57PM SECOND COURT OF APPEALS CHRIS ALTENBERG HEADED THIS
02:30:01PM COMMITTEE.
02:30:02PM WITH MR. WARREN'S OFFICE.
02:30:06PM AND MY HAT IS OFF HERE.
02:30:08PM AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, EVERYBODY INCLUDING MY
02:30:11PM FRIEND COLLEAGUE, DAVID HARVEY.
02:30:13PM YOUR WORK ON THIS, DAVID, I AM SURE, YOU ARE REALLY GOOD
02:30:17PM ATTORNEY AND STUD I COULDN'T SAY AND DETAIL ORIENTED, AND I
02:30:21PM KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS.
02:30:22PM THANK YOU.
02:30:23PM AND MISS ZELMAN AND EVERYBODY'S TEAM.
02:30:26PM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
02:30:29PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO IN PUBLIC OFFICE IS TO
02:30:33PM MAKE WRONGS RIGHT.
02:30:34PM THIS WAS A BIG WRONG LIKE CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO SAID MANY,
02:30:38PM MANY YEARS FOR THIS GENTLEMAN TO BE IN PRISON.
02:30:40PM HE WAS IN PRISON, I BELIEVE IT WAS, AT THE AGE OF 18.
02:30:43PM AND THE THINGS THAT HE SUFFERED.
02:30:45PM SO JUST FROM THE LIFE LOST IS TREMENDOUS.
02:30:49PM AND I HOPE AND PRAY THAT THIS SETTLEMENT GIVES HIM A MEASURE
02:30:54PM OF COMFORT.
02:30:55PM YOU KNOW WHEN -- THERE ARE CERTAIN CASES.
02:30:57PM AND I SAY THIS AS A 21-YEAR LAWYER WHERE YOU SETTLE.
02:31:03PM AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY GET, YOU CAN NEVER COMPENSATE
02:31:08PM SOMEBODY FOR THE SUFFERING THEY WENT THROUGH AND I OBVIOUSLY
02:31:12PM SAY THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES.
02:31:13PM CERTAINLY A GESTURE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND I HOPE AND
02:31:20PM PRAY WE WILL MAKE WRONGS RIGHT IN THIS MAN'S LIFE.
02:31:23PM THIS BEING A PROCESS.
02:31:24PM EVERYBODY HAS A JOURNEY TO COME HOME EMOTIONALLY, AND I HOPE
02:31:28PM THIS HELPS HIM IN HIS JOURNEY.
02:31:31PM SINCERELY.
02:31:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND COUNCILMAN
02:31:34PM MIRANDA.
02:31:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL ECHO MY THANKS TO ELECTED STATE
02:31:38PM ATTORNEY ANDREW WARREN FOR SETTING UP THE ORGANIZATION THAT
02:31:41PM LED TO THE EXONERATION.
02:31:42PM AND -- AND THE FREEDOM OF LAWFULLY CONVICTED INDIVIDUAL.
02:31:47PM IT IS -- IT IS SAD WHEN SOMEBODY SACRIFICED SO MUCH OF THEIR
02:31:52PM TIME AND ENERGY.
02:31:53PM AND I AM GLAD THAT THE CITY HAS -- I WILL LEAVE IT AT THIS
02:31:56PM PHRASE.
02:31:56PM IT IS NEVER TOO LATE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
02:31:59PM AND I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT US, AS A CITY, WERE STANDING UP
02:32:03PM AND DOING.
02:32:03PM WE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
02:32:04PM SO I HOPE THAT IN SOME WAY THIS WILL HELP THIS MAN MOVE ON.
02:32:10PM AND ENJOY WHAT THE REST OF HIS LIFE.
02:32:13PM AND I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY WHO WAS A PART OF IT.
02:32:15PM THANK YOU.
02:32:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:32:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:32:19PM IT IS 40 YEARS, I GUESS -- CLOSE TO 40 YEARS.
02:32:22PM RIGHT AT 40.
02:32:23PM WHAT WOULD YOU FEEL -- WHO YOU I WOULD FEEL -- HOW WOULD
02:32:27PM ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE BEHIND THE CAMERA AND WRITING THE
02:32:30PM STORIES, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IN JAIL FOR 14,600 DAYS AND
02:32:34PM EVERY ONE OF THOSE DAMN DAYS, YOU KNEW YOU WERE INNOCENT?
02:32:39PM WHAT DID YOU MISS?
02:32:40PM YOU MISS YOUR LIFE THAT HAS GONE OFF, THE MOST PRODUCTIVE
02:32:48PM YEARS OF YOUR LIFE IS GONE.
02:32:50PM EVERY DAY YOU SLEPT IN THAT BUNK, YOU TOLD YOURSELF, IT
02:32:54PM WASN'T ME AND YOU COME OUT AND YOU SAY, HAVE I MISSED.
02:33:00PM MONEY CAN'T BUY ANYTHING.
02:33:03PM CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, POSSIBLY.
02:33:09PM MONEY DOESN'T SOLVE ANYTHING, BUT DEMOCRACY, COMBINED EFFORT
02:33:18PM BETWEEN THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT AND BILL REPRESENTING THE
02:33:21PM PERSON TO COME UP WITH SOME NUMBER AND YOU HAVE DONE AN
02:33:25PM ASTOUNDING JOB IN DOING THAT BUT YOU CAN'T CORRECT SOMETHING
02:33:37PM THAT IS 14,600 DAYS BEING IN JAIL THINKING IT WAS NOT ME.
02:33:41PM MOST OF IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CRAZY BY THIS TIME.
02:33:43PM THAT IS JUST ME ECHOING WHAT A DEMOCRACY IS ABOUT.
02:33:48PM IT WORKS.
02:33:49PM AND SOMETIMES YOU DON'T FIND THEM.
02:33:51PM THERE MIGHT BE OTHERS THAT YOU NEVER FIND.
02:33:54PM BUT WE ARE TALKING ONE PARTICULAR CASE HERE IN TAMPA SO I --
02:33:58PM I APOLOGIZE TO THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAD TO SERVE THAT AMOUNT
02:34:02PM OF TIME IN JAIL.
02:34:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
02:34:07PM YES, MA'AM.
02:34:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ECHO MY COUNCILMEMBERS -- FELLOW
02:34:12PM COUNCILMEMBERS' COMMENTS.
02:34:15PM YOU KNOW OUR STATE ATTORNEY CREATED A WONDERFUL PROGRAM TO
02:34:19PM REALLY RELOOK AT SOME OF THESE CASES.
02:34:22PM AND IN THIS CASE, HE FOUND THAT -- OR THE DEPARTMENT FOUND
02:34:25PM THAT THERE WAS A WRONG DONE.
02:34:27PM AND I THINK THAT HAVING MORE OF THESE UNITS THAT WORK ON
02:34:34PM THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
02:34:35PM I DON'T THINK FOR ANY OF US IT WAS A QUESTION OF A VOTE.
02:34:39PM THIS ESPECIALLY HAS -- MR. DUBOIS GAVE A MAJORITY OF HIS
02:34:44PM LIFE FOR THIS.
02:34:45PM AND THIS IS THE LEAST WE CAN DO.
02:34:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
02:34:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
02:34:53PM MR. DUBOIS, I AM SORRY THIS HAPPENED TO YOU AT SUCH A YOUNG
02:34:58PM AGE.
02:34:59PM I AM CLOSE TO THE SAME AGE THAT YOU ARE.
02:35:02PM THAT IS MY LIFETIME.
02:35:03PM AND I AM SORRY AND HOPEFULLY THIS HISTORY OF COURSE
02:35:09PM CORRECTING AND GETTING IT RIGHT BY PROVIDING YOU WITH THIS
02:35:12PM SETTLEMENT WILL GIVE YOU SOME MODE OF HAPPINESS FOR YOU AND
02:35:17PM YOUR FAMILY.
02:35:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:35:18PM MR. HARVEY, A NUMBER 56 COMPANION TO THIS.
02:35:22PM ARE YOU TAKING THIS UP OR A CFO QUESTION.
02:35:25PM >>DAVID HARVEY: MR. ROGERO IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY FINANCIAL QUESTIONS.
02:35:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. ROGERO.
02:35:34PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCILMEMBERS.
02:35:38PM CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
02:35:40PM THIS WILL TAKE CARE OF $9 MILLION.
02:35:45PM YOU WILL SEE OBLIGATIONS FOR 2025 AND 2026 AS PART OF BUDGET
02:35:51PM OBLIGATIONS.
02:35:52PM THEY ARE STANDING OBLIGATIONS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
02:35:56PM ARE SETTING THEM ASIDE IN THE NEXT TWO FISCAL YEARS.
02:35:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY WANT TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
02:36:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
02:36:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
02:36:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:36:08PM ANY OPPOSED?
02:36:09PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:36:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
02:36:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 52.
02:36:19PM WE HAVE A WRITTEN REPORT FROM MR. MICHAEL PERRY; HOWEVER, WE
02:36:27PM HAVE MR. BHIDE ON LINE.
02:36:29PM AND WE RECEIVED PROBABLY ENDLESS E-MAILS REGARDING THIS.
02:36:33PM MR. BHIDE.
02:36:35PM YES, SIR?
02:36:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE MUTED.
02:36:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR.
02:36:44PM >>VIK BHIDE: CAN YOU NOT HEAR ME?
02:36:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, NOW WE CAN.
02:36:47PM >>VIK BHIDE: OH, OKAY.
02:36:49PM VIK BHIDE, MOBILITY, HERE TO ADDRESS ITEM 52, RELATED TO
02:36:58PM CERTAIN CHANGES IN THE BUDGET RELATIVE TO A FDE GRANT IN THE
02:37:05PM AMOUNT OF A LITTLE OVER $10 MILLION.
02:37:07PM THIS GRANT IS TOWARDS THE SOUTH HOWARD FLOODING RELIEF
02:37:13PM PROJECT.
02:37:14PM AND THIS WAS, OF COURSE, ONE OF TWO ITEMS DISCUSSED IN
02:37:20PM THE LAST MEETING WHERE COUNCILMAN CARLSON IN WHOSE DISTRICT
02:37:25PM THIS PROJECT IS IN, REQUESTED THAT WE MEET WITH
02:37:29PM NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE IMPACTED WITHIN THE SOUTH HOWARD AREA
02:37:32PM TO LISTEN TO THEIR CONCERNS, AGAIN, PROVIDING AS MUCH OF AN
02:37:36PM UPDATE AS WE CAN.
02:37:38PM AND THEN REPORT BACK.
02:37:42PM AND ON THAT NOTE, YOU ARE CORRECT, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
02:37:48PM CORRESPONDENCE AND E-MAILS FROM PRESIDENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:37:51PM WE DID MEET WITH ALL OF THEM.
02:37:53PM WE MET WITH HYDE PARK -- RATHER HISTORIC HYDE PARK, BAYSHORE
02:38:01PM GARDENS, PARKLAND ESTATES AND SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
02:38:06PM FOR THE MOST PART, AND ALSO THE BUSINESSES.
02:38:09PM AND WE DO HAVE -- A BUSINESS ALLIANCE MEETING SCHEDULED NEXT
02:38:14PM WEEK AS WELL.
02:38:14PM THAT WILL BE HELD AT THE EPICURIAN.
02:38:19PM BASED ON ALL OF OUR MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITIES, WE ARE
02:38:25PM ABLE TO SHARE WHAT UPDATES WE COULD AT THIS TIME.
02:38:29PM I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT WERE ADDRESSED.
02:38:32PM I AM SURE THERE ARE ADDITIONAL CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY
02:38:36PM STILL HAVE.
02:38:36PM I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE INDIVIDUALLY SHARED LETTERS WITH
02:38:40PM COUNCIL ALSO.
02:38:42PM THE MOST RECENT ONE WAS AN UPDATE VIA E-MAIL FROM PARKLAND
02:38:48PM ESTATES CLARIFYING THE LEVELS AT WHICH THEY WILL WANT
02:38:51PM UPDATES AS THE DESIGN PROCEEDS AS WELL.
02:38:53PM NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL HAS CONVEYED THEIR OPPOSITION TO THIS
02:39:03PM PROJECT.
02:39:03PM WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
02:39:04PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO BRING CONTEXT TO THAT AND MOVE TO ANY
02:39:11PM QUESTIONS.
02:39:12PM AGAIN, NEW SUBJECT BEAUTIFUL CONCERNS, WILL THE FOUR PARALLEL
02:39:17PM STREETS FROM MORRISON ALL THE WAY TO WATROUS, AND THE
02:39:21PM CONCERNS WITH TWO POTENTIAL WORK ZONES ON EITHER END OF
02:39:24PM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:39:26PM VERY UNDERSTANDABLE.
02:39:28PM THIS -- THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO HAS SOME OF THE WORST STREETS
02:39:32PM IN THE CITY-BASED ON PAVEMENT CONDITION.
02:39:37PM THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A HISTORY TO IT AS WELL.
02:39:39PM I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL IS NOT
02:39:45PM WITHIN THE BASIN THAT THE PROJECT IMPACTS, MEANING NEW
02:39:48PM SUBURB BEAUTIFUL IS DIFFERENT.
02:39:52PM THERE WILL BE SOME WORK THAT HAPPENS IN NEW SUBURB
02:39:56PM BEAUTIFUL, SPECIFICALLY ON MORRISON AS PART OF EARLY WORKS.
02:40:00PM AS FAR AS ROUTE COLLECTION OF THE ROUTES WILL BE ROUTED FROM
02:40:09PM PARKLAND ESTATES VIA THE NEIGHBORHOODS ON TO HOWARD AVENUE,
02:40:13PM THAT IS PART OF AN ASSESSMENT THAT IS PART OF THE DESIGN
02:40:16PM PROCESS.
02:40:18PM THIS IS A DESIGN-BUILD PROJECT.
02:40:20PM WE HAVEN'T THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE DESIGN BUILDER AND THE
02:40:29PM PROCESS HAVEN'T BEGUN.
02:40:30PM I THINK WE ARE ABLE TO CONVEY THAT VERY WELL TO THE
02:40:33PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:40:33PM THEY DID UNDERSTAND THAT THEY DID UNDERSTAND THAT WE DID OUR
02:40:40PM BEST ATTEMPT TO MENTION THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO CONTINUOUS
02:40:43PM ENGAGEMENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
02:40:49PM WE IDENTIFIED A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT.
02:40:52PM MICHELLE ROBINSON, A CONTRACTOR WORKING WITH US.
02:40:56PM THE PROCESS OF WHICH YOU WILL SEAMLESSLY HAND OVER TO THE
02:41:00PM DESIGN BUILDER.
02:41:01PM AND THEIR CONTRACTORS AS FAR AS COMMUNICATION GOES.
02:41:08PM AND BOTH WERE AVAILABLE AT ALL OF THE MEETINGS THAT WE
02:41:11PM MENTIONED.
02:41:12PM WE ARE ALSO COMMITTED TO SIT DOWN.
02:41:14PM AND THIS IS WHAT WE OFFERED NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
02:41:18PM I SHARED WHAT WE WERE SHARING WITH YOU THAT WE WILL NOT
02:41:22PM LEAVE IT THERE.
02:41:22PM WE WILL SIT DOWN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:41:24PM WE WILL GO OVER ALL OF THE ISSUES.
02:41:27PM AT THIS POINT, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING WILL BE THE LEAD
02:41:31PM ON THAT.
02:41:31PM AND I KNOW THAT OUR TRANSPORTATION MANAGER, BRANDON
02:41:36PM CAMPBELL, IS WORKING ON GETTING SOMETHING ON THE CALENDAR
02:41:38PM WITH NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
02:41:40PM AND WILL START WORKING ON TWO THINGS.
02:41:43PM ONE IS LOW-HANGING FRUIT PROJECTS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS TO
02:41:47PM DATE RIGHT NOW WITH OUR BUDGET.
02:41:50PM NOT PART OF THE PROJECT BUDGET.
02:41:52PM I WILL GET INTO THAT IN A SECOND.
02:41:55PM AND THEN PUT TOGETHER A BUSINESS CASE FOR ANY GRANTS THAT
02:41:59PM MAY BE OUT THERE.
02:42:00PM AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAD SOME SUCCESS OVER THE LAST FOUR
02:42:04PM YEARS IN ATTRACTING BOTH FEDERAL AND STATE MONIES.
02:42:07PM AND WE WILL -- WE WILL EXERCISE THE SAME KIND LOOKING FOR
02:42:14PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
02:42:18PM IF NOT, WE WILL KEEP CHIPPING AWAY AT IT WITH THE RESOURCES
02:42:23PM THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
02:42:24PM I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE THAT BECAUSE THE SOUTH HOWARD
02:42:27PM PROJECT AS DESIGNED DRAINS A DIFFERENT BASIN THAN NEW SUBURB
02:42:33PM BEAUTIFUL, THAT SYSTEM IS AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE CONNECTIONS
02:42:36PM TO OTHER ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL
02:42:40PM JUST DRAINS ELSEWHERE.
02:42:42PM AND THIS GRANT THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU, THIS $10 MILLIO
02:42:49PM ITEM.
02:42:50PM A FINANCIAL TRANSACTION.
02:42:51PM BECAUSE COUNCIL APPROVED RIGHT OF THE GRANT OF THE LAST
02:42:58PM COUNCIL MEETING CAN ONLY BE SPENT TOWARD THIS PROJECT OR
02:43:01PM SPENT TOWARD RESILIENCY AND SEA LEVEL RISE STUDY.
02:43:07PM A VERY NARROWLY TAILORED GRANT.
02:43:11PM IT IS COMPETITIVE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT NOT
02:43:15PM RECEIVING THESE FUNDS WILL NOT HELP, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE
02:43:21PM CHALLENGES THAT WILL BE BROUGHT UP OR CONCERNS THAT HAVE
02:43:23PM BEEN BROUGHT UP BY THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:43:25PM SO I HOPE YOU CONSIDER THAT.
02:43:27PM AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
02:43:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. BHIDE.
02:43:33PM BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:43:36PM JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
02:43:37PM I WAS HERE IN 2016 WHEN I VOTED FOR -- WHEN WE VOTED FOR THE
02:43:41PM STORMWATER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
02:43:44PM AND I KNOW THIS IS A GRANT, BUT PART OF THAT QUARTER OF A
02:43:47PM BILLION DOLLAR VEHEMENT, I REMEMBER TALKING TO FOLKS IN THAT
02:43:52PM NEIGHBORHOOD SAYING IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT -- I WAS A SWING
02:43:55PM VOTE.
02:43:55PM IF YOU DON'T SUPPORT THIS NEIGHBORS WILL BE MAD BECAUSE OF
02:43:57PM THE FLOODING IN TAMPA IN GENERAL.
02:44:01PM I DID SUPPORT IT.
02:44:02PM NOT GET IN THE STORY, BUT I HAVE SEEN MAJOR STORMWATER
02:44:07PM PROJECTS IN PLACE SINCE THEN.
02:44:08PM WESTSHORE BOULEVARD.
02:44:10PM ESTRELLA.
02:44:11PM ALL OF THAT AREA.
02:44:12PM DALE MABRY, HENDERSON, TRUNK LINE.
02:44:17PM I HAVE SEEN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS WHICH IS NOW IN PROGRESS.
02:44:22PM AND WE HAVE THIS WHICH IS TO ADDRESS STORMWATER, BUT THEY
02:44:26PM ARE INVESTMENTS WE NEED TO TAKE IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE
02:44:29PM HAVE FLOODING ISSUES.
02:44:30PM WE HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES.
02:44:34PM HOWEVER, I RECEIVED SO MANY COMPLAINTS -- AND IT IS PART OF
02:44:37PM IT.
02:44:37PM PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION, YOU ARE GOING TO GET COMPLAINTS.
02:44:40PM BUT THE WESTSHORE PROJECT.
02:44:42PM THE DALE MABRY, HENDERSON PROJECT.
02:44:44PM PEOPLE COMPLAINING OF ROADS BEING SHUT DOWN.
02:44:46PM I HAVE SELFIES ON MY CELL PHONE OF ME WALKING INTO THE BOX
02:44:51PM CULVERTS BEFORE THEY GET INSTALLED.
02:44:53PM ME GOING DOWN THERE.
02:44:54PM AND LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS SAYING WE CAN'T GET IN AND
02:44:58PM OUT OF OUR HOUSE.
02:44:59PM THE CONTRACTORS, WHICH HAVE BEEN GREAT, ON THAT WESTSHORE
02:45:04PM PROJECT, THEY HAVE BEEN GREAT GETTING OUT WITH GOLF CARTS
02:45:07PM AND WHATNOT.
02:45:09PM I SAW A DISRUPTION IN THEIR LIVELIHOODS.
02:45:13PM ROADS CLOSED.
02:45:15PM ACCESS TO AMBULANCES.
02:45:17PM ACCESS TO GET KIDS TO SCHOOL.
02:45:19PM THEY ARE MAJOR PROJECTS AND THEY ARE VERY DISRUPTIVE,
02:45:23PM ALTHOUGH THEY ARE NECESSARY.
02:45:25PM SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, A DIFFERENT STORY ONGOING CONSTRUCTION,
02:45:30PM ROADS TORN UP.
02:45:31PM THIS ONE RIGHT HERE A GRANT OR NOT A GRANT, THE $10 MILLION
02:45:34PM GRANT I AM TALKING ABOUT.
02:45:36PM I WENT TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS A MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENT IN
02:45:41PM SWANN.
02:45:42PM I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD VERY WELL AND HOWARD AVENUE VERY
02:45:53PM WELL.
02:45:53PM LOOKING AT WHAT THE CITY GAVE IN A COMMUNITY MEETING THIS
02:45:56PM WEEK, A MAP THAT SHOWED A DARKER SOLID LINE AT SWANN AND
02:46:00PM DARK SOLID LINE ON HOWARD GOING TO BAYSHORE.
02:46:03PM BUT WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, FOR EXAMPLE, GOING DOWN
02:46:06PM BRISTOL, GOING DOWN, I BELIEVE, LAKEVIEW.
02:46:08PM IT IS DOTTED.
02:46:09PM SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS POSSIBLE ROUTES OR IF THERE IS
02:46:15PM ROOM FOR NEGOTIATION HERE WHERE WE SAY, CAN'T WE JUST WORK
02:46:19PM ON SWANN AND HOWARD AND WORK WITH THE BUSINESS AND THE
02:46:25PM COMMUNITY HERE.
02:46:25PM BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY, FOR EXAMPLE, AT LAKEVIEW, WHERE THE
02:46:30PM GAZEBO IS AT.
02:46:32PM A TRIANGULAR PIECE.
02:46:34PM I HEARD FROM MANY NEIGHBORS.
02:46:35PM IT NEVER FLOODS HERE AND THE DRAINAGE DITCHES ARE MORE
02:46:39PM MODERN STYLE.
02:46:39PM IT IS NOT LIKE -- ONE SECTION OFF OF -- I DON'T KNOW.
02:46:44PM I FORGOT WHERE.
02:46:46PM FARTHER DOWN.
02:46:47PM A NEW GRATE -- A DRAINAGE GRATE.
02:46:53PM AND THE DRAINAGE DITCHES ARE MODERN AT LAKEVIEW.
02:46:57PM NEVER HAVE BEEN FLOODING THAT WE CAN REMEMBER.
02:47:00PM FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE 20 YEARS.
02:47:02PM IF YOU GO DOWN BRISTOL, A NARROW ROAD COMING OFF HOWARD WITH
02:47:10PM A CENTER MEDIAN.
02:47:13PM A LOT OF TREES THERE.
02:47:14PM I WALKED THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:47:15PM AGAIN, I LIVED THERE MY WHOLE LIFE AND A LOT OF THOSE TREES
02:47:23PM WERE THERE WHEN I WAS A KID, 50, 100 YEARS OLD.
02:47:26PM MY CONCERN -- YES, WE CAN REPLANT, BUT THOSE TREES HAVE
02:47:30PM TAKEN GENERATION TO GO.
02:47:33PM AND WITH CONSTRUCTION WHEN YOU DIG UP ASPHALT AND BOX
02:47:38PM CULVERTS AND PIPES.
02:47:39PM YOU WILL DAMAGE THE ROOT SYSTEM, AND PEOPLE IN THE
02:47:41PM NEIGHBORHOOD THEY BUY FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
02:47:43PM ONE, BECAUSE IT IS A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE.
02:47:45PM SECOND, BECAUSE IT IS A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:47:47PM THIRD, THE TREE CANOPY.
02:47:50PM THE BEAUTIFUL TREES.
02:47:52PM THEY PROVIDE SHADE.
02:47:53PM THEY ALLOW FOR THE WATER TO DRAIN.
02:47:54PM YOU KNOW THE BENEFITS OF TREES IN GENERAL.
02:47:57PM MY CONCERN IS, CAN WE AVOID -- CAN WE MITIGATE HAVING TO GO
02:48:02PM INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS GOING DOWN BRISTOL AND LAKEVIEW AND
02:48:06PM FOCUS ON SWANN AND HOWARD.
02:48:08PM AND NO COMPLETE ROAD CLOSURES BECAUSE I THINK WE ARE
02:48:11PM LEARNING FROM THAT IN OTHER STORMWATER PROJECTS BUT I THINK
02:48:18PM IT IS MORE MANAGEABLE WHERE WE HAVE LESS OF AN IMPACT ON
02:48:21PM TREES AND PEOPLE.
02:48:22PM LIVELIHOODS AND KIDS.
02:48:24PM SO MANY REASONS.
02:48:25PM I KNOW IT IS A VERY LONG-WINDED DISCUSSION ON MY PART, BUT
02:48:30PM IS THERE ANY WIGGLE ROOM THAT WE CAN AVOID GOING INTO THE
02:48:34PM NEIGHBORHOODS?
02:48:36PM >>VIK BHIDE: I THINK THOSE ARE ALL EXCELLENT POINTS AND WE
02:48:40PM HEARD THEM AS WELL, AND THEY ARE VERY, VERY VALID.
02:48:42PM I MEAN, COMMUNITIES ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR LEGACY
02:48:47PM STRUCTURES AND TREES AS ARE WE.
02:48:55PM THE SIMPLEST THING I CAN SHARE, WE ARE INTERESTED IN LOOKING
02:48:59PM AT ALL OF THE ROUTES.
02:49:00PM SWANN, BRISTOL AND LAKEVIEW.
02:49:03PM ULTIMATELY -- AND THIS IS WHAT WE SHARED WITH THE
02:49:05PM COMMUNITIES AS WELL.
02:49:06PM ULTIMATELY, THIS WILL BE AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS THAT ALSO
02:49:11PM TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THREE IMPACTS.
02:49:16PM PEOPLE IMPACTS.
02:49:18PM LIGHT TRAFFIC.
02:49:19PM THEN, OF COURSE, COST AND FEASIBILITY AS WELL.
02:49:26PM WHAT I WOULD LIKE --
02:49:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
02:49:29PM >>VIK BHIDE: WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE AND CLARIFY IS WHILE
02:49:33PM THE PRIMARY AREAS WHERE FLOOD MITIGATION OR FLOOD RELIEF
02:49:37PM WILL BE MOST IMPACTFUL IS PARKLAND ESTATES AND PARTS OF
02:49:43PM SWANN AVENUE BETWEEN MacDILL AND ROME.
02:49:47PM THIS IS A CLASSIC PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT THAT IMPACTS THE
02:49:53PM COMMONS.
02:49:54PM AND WHAT PART OF THE COMMONS IT WILL IMPACT IS INITIALLY
02:50:00PM GOING TO BE AN ENGINEERING DECISION BASED ON THE CRITERIA WE
02:50:04PM MENTIONED.
02:50:04PM AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO BEING VERY TRANSPARENT AND PUTTING
02:50:08PM ALL THE INFORMATION AND THE DATA IN FRONT OF THE COMMUNITY
02:50:11PM AND IN FRONT OF COUNCIL.
02:50:12PM AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
02:50:14PM THAT RECOMMENDATION WILL -- WILL INCLUDE TREE IMPACTS.
02:50:18PM AND IT WILL INCLUDE TRAFFIC IMPACTS AS WELL, ABSOLUTELY.
02:50:23PM AND THEN -- ON THE PART WHERE -- YOU KNOW, ONE ROUTE WILL
02:50:26PM HAVE TO BE SELECTED.
02:50:28PM AND -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT ROUTE IS.
02:50:31PM WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO PUT THINGS BACK IN PLACE OR MITIGATE
02:50:38PM AS MUCH AS WE CAN WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TREES, UNDERSTANDING
02:50:42PM THAT, YOU KNOW, PLANTING TREES -- UNLESS THEY ARE
02:50:47PM APPROPRIATE SPECIES ON TOP OF THE SYSTEM ITSELF, MIGHT
02:50:51PM PRESENT MAINTENANCE CHALLENGES OR OTHER CHALLENGES IN THE
02:50:54PM FUTURE.
02:50:55PM BUT WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH ALL NEIGHBORHOODS TO FOCUS
02:50:59PM ON PLANTING TREES WHERE WE CAN, RIGHT SPECIES, RIGHT PLACE.
02:51:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:51:05PM SO IF THIS IS TO PASS TODAY AND WE MOVE THIS RESOLUTION,
02:51:09PM WILL WE HAVE OTHER BITES AT THE APPLE AS A COUNCIL TO SAY,
02:51:13PM HEY OF THIS A AFFECTING PEOPLE.
02:51:17PM WE WANT TO CHANGE THIS.
02:51:18PM OR?
02:51:19PM GOING TO BE -- YOU APPROVED THE $10 MILLION.
02:51:21PM WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AND THEN YOU MAKE THE
02:51:23PM DECISION.
02:51:23PM BECAUSE I -- BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL
02:51:29PM MAJOR STORMWATER PROJECTS.
02:51:30PM WE GET INUNDATED TO CALLS AND E-MAILS.
02:51:34PM WE HAVE BEEN TO THE SITE.
02:51:35PM WE SEE HOW THEY AFFECT PEOPLE.
02:51:36PM MAY NOT BE A LARGE AREA BUT IT IS.
02:51:38PM HOWARD AVENUE IS LONG AND SO IS SWANN AVENUE.
02:51:41PM THEY HAVE CONCERNED OF THE QUALITY OF THEIR ROADS.
02:51:45PM WE KNOW THAT PAVING IS AN ISSUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:51:48PM IN THIS CURRENT BUDGET, WE ALMOST TRIPLED THE ROAD PAVING
02:51:54PM BUDGET.
02:51:54PM IS THERE ROOM WITH $10 MILLION IN THIS GRANT TO APPLY TOWARD
02:51:58PM PAVING.
02:51:58PM AS THEY BROUGHT UP CONCERNS, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A DIFFERENT
02:52:01PM STORMWATER SYSTEM, BECAUSE HOWARD IS IMPACTED AND SWANN IS
02:52:06PM IMPACTED, CARS WILL BE GOING THROUGH THE ROADS.
02:52:09PM WE WILL BE PAVING THE ROADS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN PAID IN
02:52:22PM DECADES.
02:52:28PM WE CAN LESSEN AND MITIGATE THE IMPACT.
02:52:31PM AND GET MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK.
02:52:33PM PAVE ROADS THAT NEED TO BE WAIVED BECAUSE A LOT -- NOT JUST
02:52:37PM LAKEVIEW, BRISTOL, HOWARD AND SWANN WHO WILL BE AFFECTED,
02:52:42PM BUT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE AFFECTED.
02:52:45PM I HAVE SEEN IT IN THE WESTSHORE AREA AND SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
02:52:49PM AND WE CAN LEARN A LOT FROM THOSE PROJECTS.
02:52:51PM AND DO THE BEST WE CAN AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS HERE.
02:52:55PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:52:56PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:52:57PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:52:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:53:00PM I DID A TOUR WITH PARKLAND ESTATES LAST WEEK.
02:53:03PM AND IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT BRISTOL IS JUST NOT
02:53:06PM POSSIBILITY.
02:53:06PM I WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT AT ALL.
02:53:08PM IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HAPPENS.
02:53:10PM YOU CAN'T JUST GO IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND PULL OUT A PARK.
02:53:13PM WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT BRISTOL IS.
02:53:15PM IT HAS A PARK IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.
02:53:18PM SO I WAS SHOWN THE INITIAL RENDERINGS THAT TAKE IT FROM
02:53:25PM SWANN HOW WARD AND I TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE AT YOUR
02:53:29PM DEPARTMENT AND THEY SAID IT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN
02:53:32PM CERTAINLY LOOK AT.
02:53:33PM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT.
02:53:35PM UNFORTUNATELY, AS WE FOUND WITH THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE
02:53:39PM HEIGHTS STORMWATER PROJECT, NOT EVERY STREET THAT IS TOUCHED
02:53:42PM IS AN ACTUAL AFFECTED STREET.
02:53:43PM THE STREET SHUT DOWN FOR TWO YEARS, CREST, HAD NO FLOODING
02:53:47PM PROBLEMS.
02:53:48PM THE REASON THEY HAD TO DO CREST, THAT IS WHERE ALL THE WATER
02:53:52PM FROM SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS WAS GOING TO GO.
02:53:54PM SO I THINK, AGAIN, WHEN YOU MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY, THOSE
02:53:59PM TYPE OF EDUCATIONS IS ALWAYS HELPFUL.
02:54:01PM I SPOKE WITH BRAD BAIRD ABOUT UPDATING COUNCIL.
02:54:07PM AND HE SAID THAT THIS PROJECT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE GREAT
02:54:12PM EIGHT PROJECTS THAT THEY BRING BACK TO US, I BELIEVE IT IS
02:54:16PM QUARTERLY.
02:54:17PM THE FIRST QUARTER, WE WILL GET KIND OF LIKE -- THEY SAID
02:54:20PM LIKE A 30% -- 30%, 60%, 90% CONCLUSION TO GET?
02:54:29PM SET UP.
02:54:29PM WE ARE AT THE 30%.
02:54:31PM THE 60% IS WHEN THE NEXT GREAT EIGHT UPDATE IS.
02:54:35PM AND 90% AFTER THAT IS THE NEXT GREAT EIGHT UPDATE I AM TOLD.
02:54:40PM AND I WAS TOLD YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO MEET WITH THE
02:54:46PM COMMUNITY AFTER THE PROJECT WAS 90% SO FOLKS CAN SEE WHAT IS
02:54:49PM COMING.
02:54:49PM IS THAT THE CASE?
02:54:52PM >>VIK BHIDE: ACTUALLY, IF I COULD CLARIFY, WE ARE NOT AT
02:54:56PM 30%.
02:54:56PM WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED DESIGN YET.
02:54:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY APOLOGIES.
02:55:02PM >>VIK BHIDE: IT WILL TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS TO BE AT 30%.
02:55:06PM 30, 60, 90, WE WILL COME TO COUNCIL WITH THE GREAT EIGHT
02:55:12PM UPDATES AND WE WILL COME ANY NUMBER OF TIMES TO PROVIDE
02:55:15PM UPDATES THAT COUNCIL PLEASES WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO
02:55:20PM THAT.
02:55:24PM IF ANYTHING, WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR THE FACT THAT WE NEED
02:55:29PM MORE COMMUNICATION THAN WE HAVE DONE IN DIFFERENT STORMWATER
02:55:32PM PROJECTS AND THAT IS WHY WE WILL HAVE A COMMUNICATION PLAN.
02:55:36PM AND IF THE COMMUNITIES WANT TO BE MORE IN TOUCH THAN WE HAVE
02:55:39PM SAID, WHICH IS 30, 60 AND 90% DESIGN UPDATES, WE ARE MORE
02:55:44PM THAN ANTICIPATE WHO DO SO.
02:55:50PM ALL OF THE INFORMATION I RECEIVED.
02:55:52PM DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND DIFFERENT BUSINESS ASSOCIATIONS
02:55:54PM AND MAY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT INTERESTS.
02:55:56PM AND MAKE IT AVAILABLE AND TRANSPARENT ON OUR WEB SITE SO
02:56:08PM EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR.
02:56:11PM AS FAR AS RESURFACING GOES, WE HAVE EARLY WORKS THAT WILL
02:56:16PM INCLUDE RESURFACING ON SEVERAL STREETS AROUND HOWARD.
02:56:19PM WE KNOW THERE WILL BE IMPACT DURING AND AFTER THE PROJECT.
02:56:22PM WE HAVE PLANNED FOR POSTS.
02:56:29PM AFTER THE PROJECT, WE WILL LEAVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN BETTER
02:56:32PM SHAPE AS THEY ARE TODAY.
02:56:33PM AS FAR AS SOME COUNTY MORE CHALLENGING ASPECTS, SPECIFICALLY
02:56:37PM LIKE NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL, I THINK GIVEN THE HISTORY BEHIND
02:56:45PM IT AND THE DIFFERENT THINGS WE ARE HEARING.
02:56:57PM UNDERSTAND THE COMMITMENT AND NEEDS.
02:56:59PM WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET THAT GO.
02:57:02PM WE WILL HAVE SMALL PROJECTS EVERY FISCAL YEAR IF NEEDED.
02:57:05PM IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET A BIG CHUNK OF FUNDING THROUGH THE
02:57:08PM STATE, THROUGH THE FEDS, WE WILL LOOK EVERYWHERE.
02:57:10PM AND WE WILL WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
02:57:12PM YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT ON THAT.
02:57:14PM OUR DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO THAT.
02:57:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
02:57:17PM AND -- THE OTHER THING I WANT ODD TO POINT OUT THAT THIS $10
02:57:22PM MILLION IS A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THE COST TO DO THIS
02:57:24PM PROJECT.
02:57:25PM SO I AM VERY EXCITED THAT WE HAVE GOT THIS TO GO TOWARD
02:57:29PM THIS.
02:57:29PM BUT THERE ARE OTHER MONEY WITHIN THE PROJECT THAT WE CAN DO
02:57:32PM OTHER THINGS.
02:57:33PM AND I JUST WANT TO END WITH THIS.
02:57:35PM WHEN I WOKE UP THIS MORNING, AND I OPENED THE "TAMPA BAY
02:57:41PM TIMES" NEWSLETTER.
02:57:42PM ONE OF THE STORIES OF RESIDENTS OF ST. PETE BECAUSE THEY
02:57:49PM DON'T HAVE ANY STORMWATER HELP COMING THEIR WAY.
02:57:51PM I AM THANKFUL THIS WAS PASSED, AND WE ARE WORKING ON IT.
02:57:54PM IT IS NOT FUN TO GO THROUGH.
02:57:56PM IT WILL NOT BE FUN TO GO THROUGH, BUT THE HELP THAT WE HAVE
02:57:59PM SEEN, THE ACTUAL MITIGATION, HAS PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
02:58:05PM SO THERE IS THAT.
02:58:06PM AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOUR TEAM FOR MANAGING
02:58:10PM THAT HAPPEN.
02:58:10PM THIS IS SO IMPORTANT TO US.
02:58:13PM AND, YOU KNOW, REALLY BEING ABLE TO STOP AND TAKE THAT IN.
02:58:18PM THE OTHER THING I WANT ODD TO SAY IS THAT IF YOU HAVEN'T
02:58:22PM ALREADY, DURING THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, YOU MAY WISH TO
02:58:25PM BRING UP THE NEWSLETTER THAT -- AND THE UPDATES THAT ARE
02:58:30PM E-MAILED TO SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
02:58:34PM THE FOLKS THAT SIGNED UP FOR THE E-MAIL.
02:58:36PM JUST TO SHOW THE KINDS OF INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE WILL BE
02:58:39PM GETTING IF THEY SIGN UP FOR THE NEWSLETTER.
02:58:41PM I THINK THAT CAN HELP ALLAY FEARS AS WELL, BECAUSE TO SHOW
02:58:46PM THE KINDS OF INFORMATION THAT THE CITIZENS IN SEMINOLE
02:58:53PM HEIGHTS ARE RECEIVING SO THAT THEY KNOW -- SO FOLKS IN THIS
02:58:58PM SWANN AND HOWARD AREA KNOW THE KIND OF INFORMATION THEY WILL
02:59:01PM BE GETTING AND POSSIBLY RETROFITTING IT TO FIT THEIR NEEDS.
02:59:05PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT IS A GREAT SUGGESTION.
02:59:09PM THANK YOU.
02:59:10PM THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THAT THESE ARE GENERATIONAL
02:59:13PM PROJECTS.
02:59:13PM THESE WILL BENEFIT TAMPANIANS 50, 60, 70 YEARS FROM NOW AND
02:59:22PM WE RECOGNIZE THEY ARE NOT CONVENIENT WHILE CONSTRUCTION GOES
02:59:26PM ON, HOWEVER NECESSARY THEY ARE.
02:59:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO ECHO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND SAY
02:59:31PM THANK YOU TO THE VISIONARIES THAT SERVED ON PREVIOUS
02:59:34PM COUNCILS AND ADMINISTRATIONS THAT BROUGHT THE STORMWATER
02:59:36PM IMPROVEMENTS FORWARD AND GOT US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
02:59:40PM WE HAVE GOT STILL YEARS AND YEARS OF WORK IN FRONT OF US,
02:59:44PM BUT I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION AND HOPEFULLY FUTURE
02:59:46PM ADMINISTRATION ALSO MANAGE THAT APPROPRIATELY AND WILL SEE A
02:59:49PM MUCH BETTER TAMPA AND MUCH MORE CLIMATE RESILIENT TAMPA
02:59:53PM BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY PREVIOUS
02:59:55PM ADMINISTRATIONS OF PREVIOUS COUNCILS.
02:59:57PM MR. BHIDE, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OF THE SPECIFIC
03:00:02PM PROJECT.
03:00:02PM AND SOME OF IT YOU MAY HAVE CLARIFIED BUT I WANT IT
03:00:06PM CLARIFIED AGAIN.
03:00:07PM THIS PARTICULAR PHASE OF THIS PROJECT, THE ROUTE OR MAY OR
03:00:10PM MAY NOT AFFECT PARKLAND ESTATES, THERE IS NO DEFINITIVE
03:00:16PM ROUTE YET, CORRECT?
03:00:18PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT'S CORRECT.
03:00:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAY NOT INCLUDE THE RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
03:00:23PM MAY INCLUDE JUST SWANN AND HOWARD?
03:00:28PM >>VIK BHIDE: A POSSIBILITY.
03:00:29PM ONE OF THE ROUTES CONSIDERED.
03:00:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND NOT SCIENTIFIC BUT
03:00:37PM ANECDOTAL, BECAUSE THE WATER MOVEMENT NORTH OF TOWN COMES
03:00:42PM FROM THE AREA NORTH OF SWANN.
03:00:44PM I SEE A RIVER COMING PAST MY HOUSE.
03:00:46PM WE SEE A LOT OF THE WATER SHED COME IN AREAS NORTH SWANN,
03:00:50PM PAST SWANN AND INTO PARKLAND ESTATES.
03:00:53PM WILL THIS PROJECT MITIGATE OR STOP THAT FLOW OF WATER COMING
03:00:56PM FROM NORTH OF SWANN SOUTHBOUND.
03:00:58PM AND REDIRECT IT INTO THE STORMWATER CATCHES?
03:01:12PM >>VIK BHIDE: MY UNDERSTANDING IS BECAUSE OF PARKLAND ESTATES
03:01:17PM -- WATER FLOWS TO THE LOWER AREA.
03:01:19PM BECAUSE PARKLAND ESTATES IS AT A LOWER ELEVATION, WE ARE
03:01:23PM CREATING A SYSTEM THAT WILL DRAIN IT VIA HOWARD INTO
03:01:27PM BAYSHORE.
03:01:27PM EFFECTIVELY WHAT THAT WILL MEAN IS WATER THAT FLOWS DOWN ALL
03:01:31PM THE WAY FROM KENNEDY, IT MORE OR LESS FLOWS DOWN.
03:01:34PM WE HAVE A SYSTEM AND BY HORATIO AND SWANN AND ALL OF THAT.
03:01:40PM SOME OF THAT ACTIVITY WILL STILL HAPPEN.
03:01:43PM WATER IS GOING TO FLOW TO THE LOWEST SPOT.
03:01:46PM HOWEVER, ONCE IT REACHES PARKLAND, IT WILL -- ONCE IT
03:01:50PM REACHES SWANN, IT WILL ENTER A SYSTEM THAT WILL BE CONNECTED
03:01:54PM TO THE BAY.
03:01:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOUNDS LIKE THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION
03:01:57PM IS, YES, THIS WILL MITIGATE THAT NORTH-SOUTH FLOW THAT IS SO
03:02:01PM ADVERSELY IMPACTING, ESPECIALLY THAT ONE AREA AROUND THE
03:02:06PM PARK THAT IS SWAMPY AND DEFINITELY SUBJECTED TO FLOODING.
03:02:09PM MY NEXT THING IS, I DON'T -- I WON'T VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT
03:02:13PM WILL AFFECT BRISTOL.
03:02:14PM SO, TO ME, THAT HAS TO BE OFF THE TABLE.
03:02:18PM BECAUSE I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH BRISTOL.
03:02:21PM I HAVE BEEN ON BRISTOL MANY, MANY TIMES IN MY LIFE INCLUDING
03:02:25PM RECENTLY.
03:02:26PM A STREET WITH HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE.
03:02:30PM THE HISTORIC LANTERN IN THE MIDDLE OF IT AND THE LITTLE PARK
03:02:34PM THEY HAVE.
03:02:35PM THE TREES ARE AMAZING AND ANY WORK ON BRISTOL -- JUST LIKE I
03:02:39PM BELIEVE THE CITY ARBORIST RULED OUT SOUTH OF LAKEVIEW
03:02:43PM BECAUSE OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE GRAND OAKS ALONG THE
03:02:46PM STREET.
03:02:46PM THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
03:02:47PM I THINK WHATEVER YOU DO HAVE HAS TO BE THE AREA SOUTH OF
03:02:50PM LAKEVIEW AND BRISTOL.
03:02:52PM HAS TO BE COMPLETELY OFF THE TABLE.
03:02:54PM AS THIS MOVES FORWARD, I WON'T SUPPORT THAT.
03:02:56PM WE HAVE SOME LAND -- YOU KNOW THAT WHOLE TRIANGLE THAT -- I
03:02:59PM CAN'T REMEMBER -- I THINK IT WAS PARKLAND.
03:03:02PM THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE WHERE THEY DEAD-ENDED THAT STREET.
03:03:06PM SO A LOT OF LAND THERE THAT WOULD BE LOWER IMPACT THAT WE
03:03:10PM CAN UTILIZE FOR WHATEVER, AND THEN MOVE IT ALONG THAT
03:03:13PM COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
03:03:15PM SWANN IS A BROAD STREET.
03:03:18PM WIDE STREET.
03:03:20PM AND OTHER WAYS TO GET AROUND BECAUSE IT IS A GRID SYSTEM IN
03:03:23PM THE AREA.
03:03:24PM LOWER IMPACT ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF SWANN AS WE CLOSE.
03:03:29PM I WOULD HIGHLY ENCOURAGE -- AND DESIGN-BUILD AND THE PEOPLE
03:03:33PM AROUND PARKLAND ESTATES AND HOWARD, THAT THIS IS
03:03:37PM DESIGN-BUILD AND YOU HEARD FROM THE HEAD OF MOBILITY THAT
03:03:40PM NOTHING IS CONCRETE.
03:03:41PM THERE WILL BE MORE CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT AS THEY MOVE FORWARD
03:03:45PM AND PROGRESSION OF THIS PROJECT.
03:03:46PM AND YOU HEARD MY STATEMENT THAT I WILL STAND IN OPPOSITION
03:03:49PM TO ANYTHING THAT IMPACTS THOSE SIGNIFICANT TREES.
03:03:52PM THOSE GRAND OAKS.
03:03:53PM AND BRISTOL AVENUE.
03:03:56PM AS WE PURSUE OTHER OPTIONS AND THE STORMWATER PROJECT IS A
03:04:00PM VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT AND WILL GET THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF
03:04:03PM GOOD FOR THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TAKING THOSE POINTS
03:04:05PM INTO ACCOUNT.
03:04:06PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
03:04:07PM FOR MY FRIENDS IN NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL.
03:04:09PM I HAVE ALL YOUR E-MAIL ABOUT YOUR ROADS.
03:04:11PM I DON'T NEED TO DEMINIMIZE YOUR ROAD SITUATION, BUT LET ME
03:04:16PM TELL YOU THE ROADS ALL OVER SOUTH TAMPA ARE THIRD-WORLD
03:04:21PM QUALITY.
03:04:21PM IT HAS BEEN -- THIS IS 50, 60, 70 YEARS IN THE MAKING.
03:04:26PM WE HAVE AS A CITY BEEN NEGLIGENT.
03:04:28PM WE HAVE IGNORED OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.
03:04:31PM AND BY TIME PEOPLE STAND UP IN THE CITY AND IMPROVE THEIR
03:04:35PM ROADS AND FIX THEIR POTHOLES.
03:04:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:04:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, VIK FOR A GRANT OF $10,061,000
03:04:40PM WAS SUBSTANTIAL.
03:04:48PM YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF OBTAINING THAT.
03:04:51PM WITHIN THE 10,061,435.
03:04:56PM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH AS A REALISTIC INDIVIDUAL
03:05:00PM THAT I THINK I AM.
03:05:01PM HOW MUCH OF THE FLOODING WE GOING TO SAVE PLUS THE MONEY YOU
03:05:04PM HIT FROM OTHER SOURCES?
03:05:05PM BECAUSE WATER AND THIS IS IT GOES SOMEWHERE ELSE.
03:05:15PM IN ONE TIME IT WAS PIPES GOING SOMEWHERE.
03:05:19PM AND ALL AROUND THE BAYSHORE.
03:05:21PM THOSE PIPES ARE 16 TO 18 INCHES WIDE.
03:05:25PM MAYBE 20.
03:05:26PM I DON'T KNOW.
03:05:26PM YOU CAN SEE THEM WHEN THE TIDE IS LOW.
03:05:29PM WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND HOW DOES THE DRAINAGE -- AT WHAT
03:05:33PM POINT IN TIME OF WATER FALLING DOWN OF THE AREAS, TWO
03:05:36PM INCHES, FIVE INCHES, TEN INCHES, DOES IT SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
03:05:39PM DOES IT SOLVE THE PROBLEM FOR ANY HURRICANE LIKE A ONE, TWO
03:05:44PM AND THREE.
03:05:44PM GET TO THE FOUR OR FIVE AND I WANT TO BE REALISTIC WITH THE
03:05:50PM PUBLIC.
03:05:50PM WHAT WE ARE DOING AND HOW MUCH WE ARE GOING TO SAVE THE
03:05:53PM NEIGHBORHOOD FROM WATERING -- FLOODING NOW AND THE WATER
03:05:57PM SITUATION IN THAT AREA.
03:05:57PM BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T SAY WE CAN SOLVE WITH
03:06:04PM A HURRICANE.
03:06:04PM I DON'T THINK WE CAN.
03:06:06PM I AM JUST SAYING TO FIND OUT.
03:06:08PM WHEN YOU GO AND SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, IT WILL BE VERY
03:06:11PM IMPORTANT IN MY MIND TO TELL THEM WHAT AMOUNT OF WATER IS
03:06:13PM GOING TO BE CONSUMED BY THE NEW PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING ON.
03:06:16PM BECAUSE CERTAINLY WHEN THE TIDE IS COMING IN AND YOU HAVE
03:06:20PM THE WIND BLOWING AND THE TIDE COMING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
03:06:24PM THE WIND BLOWING IN THE SAME DIRECTION, NO WATER WILL BE OUT
03:06:27PM AND HIGHER THAN THE PIPES TAKING THE WATER OUT.
03:06:29PM SO WE WILL HAVE A COMPRESSION OF A VALUE, WEIGHT, AND THE
03:06:33PM INCOMING TIDE IS MUCH GREATER THAN THE WATER GOING OUT.
03:06:38PM THESE ARE THINGS I WANT TO HAVE EXPLAINED TO THE
03:06:41PM NEIGHBORHOOD EXACTLY WHAT IT CAN DO AND WHAT CANNOT DO.
03:06:45PM I STRESS -- YOU WILL OF US HAVE GOTTEN THE SAME E-MAILS FROM
03:06:51PM THE SAME INDIVIDUALS THAT OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE GOTTEN.
03:06:56PM I AM NOT GOING TO SAY SAVE THE WATER AND DRAINAGE.
03:07:00PM I AM TELLING THEM TO BE REALISTIC.
03:07:03PM WHEN YOU GO OUT, BUT SOLVE THE PROBLEM UP TO WHAT POINT.
03:07:08PM >>VIK BHIDE: ABSOLUTELY.
03:07:10PM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
03:07:12PM THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.
03:07:14PM WE TRIED TO MAKE IT AS IMPORTANT.
03:07:18PM AND DESIGNING FOR A FIVE-YEAR 24-HOUR CONDITION.
03:07:21PM AND WHAT IT WILL DO IS MAKE IT SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER.
03:07:27PM SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT FROM THE SITUATION TODAY.
03:07:30PM BUT THERE IS JUST NOT ENOUGH FOR A CATEGORY 3, 4 OR 5 FROM A
03:07:48PM STORM STANDPOINT.
03:07:49PM I AM GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT.
03:07:50PM THE FLOOD MITIGATION, THE FLOOD RELIEF SITUATION WILL BE
03:07:53PM SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER THAN IT IS TODAY.
03:07:55PM BUT IT WON'T BE WITHOUT ANY IMPACT IN HURRICANES AND THINGS
03:08:03PM LIKE THAT.
03:08:04PM JUST THAT IT WILL DRAIN MUCH, MUCH FASTER AND MAKE THE AREA
03:08:13PM MORE LIVABLE THAN IT IS TODAY.
03:08:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
03:08:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
03:08:19PM WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF.
03:08:20PM DO YOU WISH TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
03:08:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.
03:08:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
03:08:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:08:26PM ANY OPPOSED?
03:08:28PM THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE.
03:08:30PM DO YOU ALSO HAVE ITEM NUMBER 53?
03:08:34PM I SEE BRAD BAIRD.
03:08:37PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT MIGHT BE BRAD'S ITEM.
03:08:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BE MR. BAIRD, IF YOU WERE ONLINE OR
03:08:43PM ANYBODY FOR 53?
03:08:45PM YES, MA'AM.
03:08:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK WE NEED HIM.
03:08:47PM JUST BECAUSE -- YEAH, IT IS JUST -- JUST SUCH AN EXPENSIVE
03:08:51PM ITEM, THAT IS WHY --
03:08:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
03:08:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
03:08:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
03:08:57PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 53 AND 54, SINCE THEY ARE COMPANIONS.
03:09:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL TAKE THEM ONE AT TIME.
03:09:04PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:09:06PM OPPOSED?
03:09:07PM GET A MOTION FROM 54.
03:09:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
03:09:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
03:09:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:09:12PM ANY OPPOSED?
03:09:14PM ALL RIGHT.
03:09:14PM WE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF 55.
03:09:16PM 56.
03:09:17PM 57, 58 AND 59 ARE FIRE-RELATED.
03:09:22PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:09:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
03:09:25PM JUST FOR 57 AND 58.
03:09:26PM I SAW THE MEMOS.
03:09:28PM I THANK CHIEF TRIPP FOR THE DETAILED MEMOS UNDER ISSUES
03:09:32PM WITH TFR THAT DON'T REQUIRE THE TIME OF COUNCIL ESPECIALLY
03:09:36PM -- I MEAN AT THIS TIME.
03:09:37PM ESPECIALLY THE CUT THROUGH FROM MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD TO K-BAR
03:09:42PM RANCH.
03:09:42PM MANY THINGS HAVE BEEN TALKED TO HELP OUT K-BAR BUILDING A
03:09:48PM MODULAR STATION, FIRE STATION, TRANSPORT VEHICLE WHICH WAS
03:09:52PM MENTIONED IN THE MEMO, CUT-THRU.
03:09:54PM WHATEVER IT IS.
03:09:55PM 20 HAIL MARYS.
03:09:57PM I WANT 20 HAIL MARYS.
03:09:59PM I WANT ANSWERS TO THAT AND TFR AND LOCAL 754.
03:10:04PM THIS REQUIRES SOME TIME TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE OPTION
03:10:07PM PROPOSED BY TFR.
03:10:09PM IF I MAY, I WANT TO HAVE THESE TWO ITEMS RETURNED TO US IN
03:10:13PM LET'S SAY THE FINAL WEEK OF MAY WILL GIVE US ENOUGH TIME.
03:10:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S LOOK AT SOME DATES.
03:10:19PM FINAL WEEK OF MAY PLEASE HAVE.
03:10:25PM WE HAVE -- WE HAVE WORKSHOP ON THE 23rd, THE REGULAR SESSION
03:10:36PM IS MAY 15.
03:10:37PM IS THAT GOOD FOR YOU.
03:10:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
03:10:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR THESE
03:10:41PM TO COME BACK MAY 16 UNDER STAFF REPORT.
03:10:43PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:10:45PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:10:46PM THAT IS FOR 57 AND 58.
03:10:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
03:10:48PM AND THAT WILL REQUIRE SOME WORK WITH THE COUNTY.
03:10:51PM SO, YEAH.
03:10:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 59, REGARDING THE
03:10:56PM REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION.
03:10:57PM WE HAVE A MEMO FROM MR. MICHAEL PERRY AND IS ALSO A
03:11:01PM RESOLUTION.
03:11:02PM MR. ROGERO IS HERE.
03:11:03PM YES, SIR.
03:11:03PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, DENNIS ROGERO,
03:11:12PM CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
03:11:13PM I'M HERE MOSTLY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MAY
03:11:15PM HAVE.
03:11:16PM THIS IS A REVISED REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION THAT COUNCIL
03:11:21PM REQUESTED FOR FIRE STATION 24 AND THE FIRE MAINTENANCE AND
03:11:24PM SUPPLY FACILITY.
03:11:25PM MANISCALCO ORDINANCE ANY QUESTIONS?
03:11:29PM COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR MR. ROGERO?
03:11:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
03:11:32PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. ROGERO, FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON
03:11:37PM THAT.
03:11:37PM I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE THESE COME TO US QUARTERLY?
03:11:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I BELIEVE SO.
03:11:42PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEN I HAVE NOTHING.
03:11:44PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
03:11:47PM THIS IS A VERY BIG STEP FORWARD FOR TAMPA FIRE RESCUE AND
03:11:52PM SOMETHING REALLY WONDERFUL.
03:11:54PM SO IT WILL BE OUR THIRD FIRE STATION IF YOU INCLUDE 25 WHICH
03:11:59PM IS MEDICAL ONLY SINCE 2018.
03:12:02PM THAT IS GOOD STUFF.
03:12:02PM SO MOVED IF I MAY.
03:12:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:12:08PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:12:10PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:12:11PM OPPOSED?
03:12:12PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:12:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHILE I HAVE HIM HERE, CAN I QUICKLY GET 6
03:12:18PM DONE.
03:12:18PM BECAUSE THIS INVOLVES MR. ROGERO AS WELL.
03:12:20PM I SAID WE DIDN'T NEED ANYONE THERE, BUT JUST IN CASE --
03:12:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE HE IS.
03:12:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HE IS ALREADY HERE.
03:12:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MENTION YOUR NAME THREE TIMES AND HE
03:12:30PM APPEARS.
03:12:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, IT IS MAGIC.
03:12:32PM BUT BASICALLY THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT IN
03:12:36PM THE BUDGET CYCLE OF HAVING THE $2 MILLION THAT WE PAY FOR
03:12:39PM PEOPLE'S CREDIT CARD FEES TO PAY THEIR BILLS.
03:12:43PM MR. ROGERO AND HIS TEAM HAVE COME UP WITH SUCH A GREAT WAY
03:12:48PM TO MOVE FORWARD OF THIS AS A PERCENTAGE.
03:12:50PM HE GAVE US ALL THE BACKGROUND WHICH I AM SURE EVERYBODY
03:12:53PM LOOKED AT.
03:12:54PM I JUST WANT TO MOVE AHEAD AND SAY I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE
03:12:57PM FORWARD WITH THE % THAT THE CITY WILL USE -- THAT THEY,
03:13:03PM THEMSELVES, WILL ADMINISTER.
03:13:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
03:13:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DIDN'T THINK WE NEEDED A LOT OF
03:13:08PM CONVERSATION, BUT JUST DIRECTION.
03:13:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A FORMAL MOTION?
03:13:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MAKE A MOTION WE GO AHEAD AND FOLLOW THE
03:13:15PM STAFF'S SUGGESTIONS FOR THE 2% FEE.
03:13:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
03:13:20PM HURTAK.
03:13:20PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:13:22PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:13:23PM OPPOSE?
03:13:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
03:13:26PM LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
03:13:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP WITH THAT.
03:13:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 61.
03:13:32PM MISS FEELEY HAS A POWERPOINT THAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY
03:13:36PM SUBMITTED.
03:13:36PM YES, SIR?
03:13:40PM MR. ROGERO.
03:13:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE WILL NEED FOR YOU TO BE HERE FOR THE
03:13:52PM SALARY DISCUSSION.
03:13:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL DO IT AT THE END OF THE AGENDA.
03:13:56PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
03:13:58PM ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT FOR
03:14:02PM THE CITY.
03:14:03PM THIS IS A CONTINUED ITEM ON THE YBOR PARKING.
03:14:07PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:14:08PM JUST WANTED -- I KNOW YOU HEARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT THIS
03:14:12PM MORNING SOME FEEDBACK AND ALSO IN CHAMBERS THIS MORNING.
03:14:20PM I AM BEFORE YOU TODAY TO PROVIDE A STAFF REPORT ON ANY -- ON
03:14:24PM RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO IMPROVE THE SATURDAY AND SECURITY OF
03:14:27PM PARKING LOTS IN YBOR, THE PERSONNEL REQUIREMENTS AND THE
03:14:36PM EXPLANATION OF ENFORCEMENT.
03:14:38PM WITH US WE HAVE KEITH O'CONNOR, THE DIRECTOR OF CODE
03:14:41PM ENFORCEMENT.
03:14:42PM CAPTAIN FROM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT, SUSAN
03:14:45PM JOHNSON-VELEZ WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND ALSO
03:14:49PM CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE AND ERIC COTTON.
03:14:52PM WE ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS COLLECTIVELY TOGETHER
03:14:55PM BECAUSE IT IS A BIG ISSUE.
03:14:56PM NOT JUST A LAND DEVELOPMENT ISSUE.
03:14:57PM I THINK I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU ALL AND SHARE
03:15:01PM WITH YOU THAT WHILE WE CAN WRITE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODES, IF
03:15:05PM WE ARE NOT WORKING TOGETHER WITH TPD AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ON
03:15:09PM A LOT OF THESE MATTERS, WE ARE NOT GAINING ANY GROUND OF
03:15:12PM BRINGING THESE LOTS UP TO OUR STANDARDS AND THEN ALSO THE
03:15:18PM ACTIVITY THAT IS WITH THE LOTS.
03:15:20PM SO THE LAST TIME I WAS BEFORE YOU, WE HAD DISCUSSED MANY
03:15:29PM THINGS.
03:15:29PM THE PHYSICAL CONDITIONS, THE OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE
03:15:33PM LOTS.
03:15:33PM WE WERE HERE SEPTEMBER 28 THE LAST TIME.
03:15:38PM AND WE HAD SEVERAL -- WE HAD SOME OPERATORS HERE THAT WERE
03:15:41PM SPEAKING ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
03:15:44PM AND THEN BEING INFORMED.
03:15:45PM WE HAVE ISSUED A LETTER TO THE OPERATORS LETTING THEM KNOW
03:15:52PM THEY WERE TO COME IN COMPLIANCE AND GAVE THEM A 06-DAY GRACE
03:15:57PM PERIOD TO DO THAT AND BEGAN ENFORCEMENT OCTOBER 1.
03:16:01PM KEITH WILL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE NUMBERS THAT ARE GOING
03:16:05PM ON.
03:16:05PM WE HELD TWO ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS, ONE IN YBOR AND
03:16:10PM ONE IN HANNA TO TALK OF THE CONCEPTS WE TALKED ABOUT.
03:16:12PM WHEN WE CAME ON THE 28th, WE TALKED ABOUT CHANGING THE
03:16:16PM PERSONNEL REQUIREMENT AND MANAGING THAT EITHER A LICENSED
03:16:18PM SECURITY OFFICER -- WE HAD SOME LANGUAGE AT THAT TIME THAT
03:16:22PM HAD COME FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT ON WHAT THAT OFFICER
03:16:28PM WOULD BE AS LICENSED FROM THE STATE OF MR.
03:16:30PM FROM THAT TIME UNTIL NOW.
03:16:32PM I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY AS WAS MENTIONED TO YOU THIS MORNING,
03:16:35PM TO LOOK AT THE ORLANDO ORDINANCE, THAT ACTUALLY USED
03:16:39PM OUR ORDINANCE TO DRAFT THEIR ORDINANCE.
03:16:43PM BUT THEY HAD DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO OUR CODE THAT WE
03:16:48PM CURRENTLY DIDN'T HAVE.
03:16:49PM TALKED OF THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS GLEANED FROM THEIR
03:16:52PM CURRENT -- THEIR CURRENT REGULATIONS.
03:16:57PM I JUST WENT OVER THIS.
03:17:00PM WE ARE HERE.
03:17:02PM WE DID -- HISTORIC PRESENTATION, RON VILA FROM DENNIS TEAM
03:17:08PM AND OTHER MEMBERS OF KEITH'S TEAM DID A WINDSHIELD.
03:17:12PM DOCUMENTED THE LOTS WHETHER THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE.
03:17:15PM THAT IS HOW WE GENERATED SOME ENFORCEMENT THAT TOOK PLACE.
03:17:20PM WE DID A PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS OF THE YC-5 AND 6 DISTRICTS.
03:17:25PM THESE ARE DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW PRINCIPAL PARKING BY RIGHT AS
03:17:29PM A PERMITTED USE.
03:17:30PM CURRENTLY, ONLY SIX VACANT PARCELS IN THOSE TWO DISTRICTS.
03:17:34PM SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE KEPT HEARING IN THE PUBLIC.
03:17:39PM WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE LOTS, RIGHT.
03:17:41PM YBOR IS BECOMING MORE RESIDENTIAL.
03:17:43PM WE ARE SEEING INFILL OF HOUSES.
03:17:46PM WE WANT INFILL OF HOUSES.
03:17:47PM WE DON'T WANT INFILL OF LOTS.
03:17:49PM SO WE LOOKED AT WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN IF WE SAID NO MORE
03:17:55PM LOTS.
03:17:55PM WHO WILL THAT IMPACT IF WE TOOK THAT USE AWAY.
03:17:58PM RIGHT NOW IT IS ONLY SIX VACANT LOTS.
03:18:00PM AS WE KNOW IN THE DISTRICT, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DEMOLISH
03:18:03PM A HOUSE WITHOUT GETTING THE APPROVAL OF THE BARRIO TO THEN
03:18:08PM BECOME A PARKING LOT.
03:18:09PM BUT REALLY, WE ARE CONTINUING TO TRY TO LOOK AT, WHERE IS
03:18:13PM OUR CODE FALL SHORT.
03:18:14PM WHAT CAN WE DO.
03:18:15PM SO I HAD MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL.
03:18:17PM AND THEN THE CONCEPTS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
03:18:20PM AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, THIS IS A VERY MULTIFACETED MATTER.
03:18:25PM NOT ONLY IS IT A LAND USE MATTER OR ENFORCEMENT MATTER, WE
03:18:32PM ARE IN ONE OF FIVE LANDMARK DISTRICTS IN THE STATE.
03:18:35PM WE ARE TRYING TO BE VERY SENSITIVE OF HOW WE ARE APPROACHING
03:18:39PM THIS.
03:18:40PM WHILE IT IS TAKING SOME TIME, I DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE YOU
03:18:43PM WITH A HAPHAZARD RECOMMENDATION THAT I DON'T THINK IS
03:18:47PM BALANCED WITH RESPECT TO THE VISION -- THE VISION FOR THE
03:18:50PM DISTRICT.
03:18:51PM HERE IS A MAP.
03:18:52PM THIS IS BASED OFF OF THE INVENTORY THAT WE -- WE CONDUCTED
03:18:57PM AND YOU WILL SEE THE CITY'S LOTS ON HERE SHOWN IN ORANGE.
03:19:01PM HCC IS YELLOW.
03:19:03PM THE PRIVATE LOTS ARE SHOWN IN BLUE.
03:19:05PM AND WE HAVE -- THE PRIVATE PAID LOTS SHOWN IN PINK.
03:19:11PM SO YOU CAN SEE PREDOMINANTLY THAT THEY ARE LOCATED, YOU
03:19:15PM KNOW, ALONG 5th, 6th AND 8th.
03:19:19PM I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO KEITH TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON
03:19:23PM THE ENFORCEMENT.
03:19:24PM AND THEN WE WILL CONTINUE ON.
03:19:31PM >>KEITH O'CONNOR: THANK YOU, ABBYE, KEITH O'CONNOR, DIRECTOR OF
03:19:36PM NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT.
03:19:38PM I WILL GO OVER AN ENFORCEMENT UPDATE THAT PETITION BEGAN IN
03:19:42PM THE FALL.
03:19:42PM FOR CLARIFICATION, SINCE WE HAVE TWO AVENUES GOING HERE,
03:19:45PM BASICALLY THE ENFORCEMENT UPDATE IS THE EXISTING CODE.
03:19:48PM A LOT OF TALK OF WHAT THE CODE MAY BECOME, BUT OBVIOUSLY
03:19:52PM RIGHT NOW I CAN ONLY ENFORCE THE CODE AS IT STANDS.
03:19:55PM BEGINNING OCTOBER 8, A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE LOT ATTENDANCE.
03:20:00PM BECAUSE ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT MAY GET ADJUSTED IN THE CODE
03:20:03PM CHANGE.
03:20:06PM WE STARTED TO DO INSPECTIONS FOR THE LOT ATTENDANTS.
03:20:10PM AND OCTOBER 8, WE BROUGHT EIGHT CASES TO THE SPECIAL
03:20:15PM MAGISTRATE NOVEMBER 5.
03:20:16PM AS OF EIGHT CASES, TWO WERE FOUND HAVE NO VIOLATION.
03:20:19PM TWO WERE FOUND HAVE A VIOLATION WITH A $200 FINE.
03:20:22PM FOUR WERE FOUND IN VIOLATION WITH A $50 FINE.
03:20:26PM THOSE FINES WERE ASSESSED.
03:20:27PM AND SINCE THEN, WE HAVE NOT FOUND ANY MORE LOT ATTENDANT
03:20:32PM VIOLATIONS SINCE THEN.
03:20:33PM WE HAVE BEEN OUT INSPECTING THE LOTS EVERY WEEKEND SINCE
03:20:37PM NOVEMBER 1.
03:20:38PM SO JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU HEAR A LOT ABOUT THAT.
03:20:43PM AS SOON AS THEY LEARNED WE WERE COMING, THAT TOOK CARE OF
03:20:47PM ITSELF.
03:20:47PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, BAR INSPECTIONS, 50 BARS EACH WEEKEND
03:20:52PM WITH COMPLIANCE WITH THE REST OF THE CODE, WITH THE TPD AND
03:20:56PM THE FIRE MARSHAL OFFICE.
03:20:58PM WE WENT BACK DOING THAT CONTINUALLY.
03:21:01PM THIS WILL BE TAPERING OFF AS WE GOT THROUGH THE HOLIDAY
03:21:05PM SEASON AND THE PARADE SEASON AND NOT GOING OUT HERE JUST AS
03:21:11PM INTENSELY.
03:21:11PM THE DAYTIME INSPECTIONS, THOSE INSPECTIONS ARE ONES FOR THE
03:21:14PM REST OF THE CODE.
03:21:15PM EVERYTHING THAT -- WHETHER IT IS HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND
03:21:19PM OTHER ZONING CODE, WE ARE GOING OUT THERE.
03:21:21PM LIKE ABBYE SAID.
03:21:24PM THERE WAS A WINDSHIELD VIEW OF ALL THE LOTS.
03:21:27PM WE FOUND ABOUT 20 THAT WE HAD WHAT WE THOUGHT WERE
03:21:31PM VIOLATIONS.
03:21:32PM AND AFTER -- ONCE WE STARTED REVIEWING THEM, WE REALIZED
03:21:36PM THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A VERY LABOR INTENSIVE -- BECAUSE
03:21:41PM WE ARE BASICALLY CHECKING EVERY PART OF THE LOT TO MAKE SURE
03:21:45PM IT IS IN COMPLIANCE.
03:21:46PM WE INITIALLY STARTED IT.
03:21:47PM YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE 24 CASES OPEN.
03:21:49PM FOUR CASES WERE CLOSED.
03:21:51PM AND -- NOW WE HAVE COME UP WITH ANOTHER MINI, LIKE, TASK
03:21:57PM FORCE WHERE WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE CODE CASE BY CASE.
03:21:59PM IT IS LABOR INTENSIVE.
03:22:00PM I AM NOT GOING TO SIT HERE AND TELL YOU IT IS NOT TAKING A
03:22:03PM LONG TIME, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE NOT DOING IT.
03:22:07PM WE ARE DOING IT CASE BY CASE BY CASE.
03:22:09PM WE HAVE MANY MEETINGS.
03:22:12PM THE NEXT MEETING NEXT WEEKEND WHERE WE ARE GOING TO MEET --
03:22:16PM THEY LOOKED AT ALL THE 30 LOTS AND COME TOGETHER AS A TEAM,
03:22:20PM ZONING, HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND CODE ENFORCEMENT.
03:22:24PM FIND OUT WHAT THE VIOLATIONS AND WILL REMEDY.
03:22:27PM I SPOKE WITH ALAN AND NECESSARY CONTACT OF THREE OF THE MAIN
03:22:32PM OWNERS OF THE LOT TO GET A HEAD START TO GET THEIR LOTS IN
03:22:37PM COMPLIANCE.
03:22:37PM A LOT OF IT INVOLVES RESEARCH.
03:22:39PM LOTS WERE IN PLACE SINCE THE '80s.
03:22:42PM WHEN THEY WERE PERMITTED WE CHANGED TO TRY TO GET THEM BACK.
03:22:46PM UPDATE FOR THE ENFORCEMENT FOR NOW.
03:22:48PM LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO THINK -- I KNOW IT IS A
03:22:52PM SLOW PROCESS, BUT WE ARE WORKING FOR GETTING THESE LOTS INTO
03:22:56PM COMPLIANCE WHICH IS THE GOAL OF CODE ENFORCEMENT.
03:22:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:23:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
03:23:02PM >> OKAY.
03:23:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED --
03:23:07PM OR THE E-MAILS WE HAVE GOTTEN, IT IS STILL A DIRT LOT, THIS
03:23:11PM AND THAT WITH THE LIGHTING.
03:23:12PM THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING IT INTO
03:23:17PM COMPLIANCE.
03:23:17PM AND THIS LOOKS -- AS I KNOW IS OLDER -- FOR JANUARY 25.
03:23:21PM AND THINGS MIGHT HAVE CHANGED, BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 20 OPEN
03:23:25PM CASES IF NOT MORE WHERE WE ARE WORKING THROUGH IT WITH THE
03:23:31PM OWNER OF THE LOT, CORRECT?
03:23:33PM >> AT LEAST 30 WE CAN SEE HAVE SOME TYPE OF VIOLATION.
03:23:36PM AND WE ARE GOING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO GET TO THOSE, BUT
03:23:41PM LIKE YOU SAID, IT DOES TAKE TIME.
03:23:42PM WE STARTED OUT -- LIKE IF WE GET A COMPLAINT ON ONE
03:23:46PM PARTICULAR LOT, THE FENCE IS DOWN, WE GO OUT.
03:23:48PM OKAY, THE FENCE IS DOWN.
03:23:51PM WE WRITE IT UP.
03:23:53PM WE DIDN'T CHECK TO SEE IF THERE WAS ENOUGH SPACES OR
03:23:56PM PERMITTED FOR THIS MANY.
03:23:58PM WE CHECKED ON THE FENCE.
03:23:59PM WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO CHECK EVERYTHING.
03:24:01PM AND WE HAD TO GO BACK.
03:24:02PM WE DON'T WANT TO MISS ANYTHING.
03:24:05PM AND I KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS VERY INVOLVED AND
03:24:07PM WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO IT AND IT HAS BECOME A LONG, ARDUOUS
03:24:12PM PROCESS THAT IS ONGOING.
03:24:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTOOD
03:24:17PM THAT.
03:24:18PM THANK YOU.
03:24:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY AS MUCH.
03:24:22PM YES, MA'AM.
03:24:22PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I ALSO CHECKED WITH MY TEAM.
03:24:25PM ANYBODY WHO IS COMING IN FOR A PERMIT OR FORMAL
03:24:29PM DETERMINATION GOES THROUGH THE BARRIO.
03:24:32PM GO THROUGH DENNIS'S SHOP.
03:24:33PM DENNIS AND RON.
03:24:35PM AND ALL THOSE LOTS GET A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS TO
03:24:42PM MAKE SURE THEY ARE COMPLYING WITH THE KEYED.
03:24:43PM IF THEY DID NOT HAVE A PERMIT OR SOME DID, THEY NEED TO SEEK
03:24:47PM THAT PERMIT OR NEED TO SEEK A FORMAL DETERMINATION FROM ERIC
03:24:53PM OR ENTER INTO ANOTHER PROJECT.
03:24:55PM WE HAVE FOUR MAJOR OPERATORS, AND OUR TEAM HAS ACTIVELY BEEN
03:25:00PM ENGAGED WITH THOSE FOUR.
03:25:02PM NOW SOME STILL HAVE NOT TAKEN ANY FORMAL ACTION, BUT IF THE
03:25:07PM CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION IS COMING.
03:25:09PM JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE COMING TO SPEAK TO US, THOSE ARE NOT
03:25:12PM GOING AWAY.
03:25:12PM THOSE PROCESSES ARE CONTINUING.
03:25:15PM AS KEITH SAID, THE OBJECTIVE IS COMPLIANCE.
03:25:17PM SO CONCEPTS FOR CONSIDERATION.
03:25:21PM I WILL GO THROUGH THESE.
03:25:22PM THIS IS JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE ONES THAT I AM GOING TO
03:25:27PM PRESENT.
03:25:27PM SO WE WILL JUMP RIGHT IN.
03:25:30PM THE FIRST ONE IS PARKING OFF-STREET PRINCIPAL.
03:25:36PM THAT IS HOW THE LOTS GET CREATED.
03:25:39PM IN THE YELLOW, CREATED IN TWO DISTRICTS, YC-5 AND 6.
03:25:46PM PRINCIPAL USE OF THE PARKING LOT.
03:25:49PM THE PRINCIPAL USE IS PARKING.
03:25:51PM THOSE -- I MENTIONED CONSIDER CURRENTLY WITHIN THOSE TWO
03:25:56PM DISTRICTS, SIX VACANT PARCELS.
03:25:58PM IF YOU WERE TOP SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THAT ANYMORE,
03:26:02PM THAT WILL IMPACT 6.
03:26:03PM THE OTHER THEY THINK -- THE POINT BROUGHT TO YOU BY
03:26:07PM MICHELINI LAST WEEK OR SO, IT WILL MAKE THE EXISTING USES
03:26:11PM NONCONFORMING WHICH WOULD.
03:26:14PM IS STATED TO BE PROBLEMATIC FROM AN INSURANCE PERSPECTIVE.
03:26:17PM IF THAT IS THE CASE SINCE THAT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED, THE OTHER
03:26:21PM OPTION ON THIS WOULD BE TO POTENTIALLY MAKE THIS A SPECIAL
03:26:25PM USE-2, CONDITIONAL USE THAT MEETS THE CRITERIA AND REQUIRED
03:26:30PM FOR A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THIS BOARD.
03:26:32PM THAT IS AN AT TESTIFY TO THOSE AND NOT MAKE THE EXISTING
03:26:38PM ONES NONCONFORMING, BUT A SPECIAL USE TO IT BE CONFIRM GOING
03:26:41PM THEY ARE LEGITIMATE.
03:26:43PM SO THEY WILL NOT BE A NONPERFORMING USE.
03:26:46PM IT WILL BE CONFORMING IN THAT CASE.
03:26:53PM THE UNIFORM PERSONNEL SECURITY IS ONE OF THE LARGEST PARTS
03:26:59PM OF THE CONVERSATION THAT THINGS CHANGED PERSONNEL-WISE.
03:27:03PM PEOPLE DON'T PAY WITH PERSONNEL.
03:27:05PM WHAT IS THE INTENT OF PERSONNEL.
03:27:08PM AND WE HAD SOME VERY INTERESTING DISCUSSIONS OF THE PAST TWO
03:27:13PM PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THIS.
03:27:14PM SO -- ORLANDO DOES REQUIRE A UNIFORMED PRIVATE SECURITY
03:27:18PM OFFICER.
03:27:18PM AND YOU CAN ALSO HAVE IT BE A LICENSED BONDED SECURITY
03:27:25PM OFFICER.
03:27:25PM AND SOME OF THE EARLIEST MEETINGS, THE DISCUSSION SURROUNDED
03:27:29PM THAT THIS PERSON NEEDED TO BE VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC.
03:27:32PM IF THERE WAS AN ATTENDANT, THE AN TEND ANT IS IN THEIR CAN.
03:27:38PM IT IS NOT VISIBLE.
03:27:40PM AND NOT PROVIDING THE PRESENCE IN THE OPERATION OF THE LOTS.
03:27:45PM SO OUR RECOMMENDATION OR CONSIDERATION FOR YOU WOULD BE ONE
03:27:48PM OF THOSE TWO.
03:27:49PM TO EITHER USE THE LICENSED BONDED SECURITY GUARD.
03:27:53PM IT CAN SAY LICENSED BONDED PRIVATE SECURITY OFFICER.
03:27:57PM LICENSED BY THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND LOCATED IN A VISIBLE
03:28:03PM LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY.
03:28:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:28:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:28:07PM DOES A UNIFIED PRIVATE SECURITY OFFICER.
03:28:10PM DOES THAT MEAN A PERSON DOES OR DOES NOT CARRY A GUN?
03:28:14PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THEY WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO.
03:28:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS NOT WHAT ORLANDO IS USING.
03:28:20PM COMPLETELY LEGAL WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA?
03:28:22PM NO ONE HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT?
03:28:24PM OKAY.
03:28:25PM CURRENTLY ORLANDO DOES THE UNIFORMED OR LICENSED OR ALLOW
03:28:29PM THE CHOICE.
03:28:29PM >> I BELIEVE THEY USED THE SECOND.
03:28:31PM LICENSED, BONDED SECURITY GUARD.
03:28:34PM I HAVE THEIR ORDINANCE.
03:28:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCUSE MY NAIVE TEE.
03:28:40PM WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO?
03:28:44PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ACTUALLY IS ONE.
03:28:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAYBE ONE OF THE LAWYERS KNOWS.
03:28:49PM IF NOT, JUST FINE.
03:28:50PM I AM JUST CURIOUS.
03:28:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LICENSED THEN BONDED.
03:28:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW THIS PROBABLY HAS BEEN ASKED OR
03:29:01PM ANSWERED SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL OR SINCE I HAVE BEEN
03:29:05PM HERE AND I JUST FORGOT.
03:29:06PM HOW IS THIS APPLIED THROUGH THE VARIOUS TYPES OF PARKING
03:29:10PM LOT, COLUMBIA RESTAURANT HAS BIG PARKING LOTS.
03:29:16PM THE CITY HAS BIG PARKING LOTS.
03:29:18PM THIS APPLIED TO PARKING LOT TO PARKING LOT OR PRIVATELY HELD
03:29:24PM PARKING LOT.
03:29:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THE COLUMBIA WILL BE PRIVATELY HELD BUT NOT
03:29:28PM A PAID LOT.
03:29:29PM THESE ARE FOUR LOTS THAT RECEIVE PAYMENT.
03:29:32PM THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, AND AS
03:29:36PM MENTIONED, WE PROVIDE ABOVE AND BEYOND -- WE HAVE OUR OWN
03:29:39PM OPERATING STANDARDS.
03:29:40PM SO WE ARE -- WE DO HAVE SECURITY.
03:29:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DO RECALL THAT PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
03:29:46PM I KNOW THE UNPAID PARTS OF THE PARKING LOT.
03:29:50PM CONCERNS OF CONSISTENCY.
03:29:52PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: FOR THE ORLANDO ORDINANCE, TO CLARIFY THAT.
03:29:58PM THEIR STANDARD IS WHEN A LOT IS PROVIDING PARKING AFTER 10
03:30:02PM P.M. IF YOU ARE PROVIDING PARKING AFTER 10 P.M., THOSE
03:30:06PM CONDITIONS APPLY TO YOU.
03:30:07PM IF YOU CLOSE AT 5 P.M., THEN YOU ARE NOT NEEDING IT.
03:30:11PM YOU DON'T THEN HAVE TO HAVE THAT SECOND LAYER OF OPERATIONAL
03:30:15PM STANDARDS.
03:30:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR ORLANDO, IS THAT FREE OR NOT FREE?
03:30:20PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: PAID LOTS.
03:30:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF THEY ARE OPEN UP AND IT IS FREE, IT
03:30:25PM DOESN'T APPLY.
03:30:27PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: CORRECT.
03:30:27PM FOR PAYMENT AFTER TEN DAYS.
03:30:31PM SIGNAGE.
03:30:32PM THIS WAS ONE THING THAT CAME TO OUR ATTENTION THROUGH
03:30:36PM DISCUSSIONS WITH THE PUBLIC.
03:30:37PM RIGHT NOW I HAVE THE CURRENT CODE REQUIREMENTS ON THERE.
03:30:42PM ONE THING WE FOUND DURING OUR WIND CHILL SURVEY THAT MANY
03:30:45PM LOTS HAVE EXCESS SELF AMOUNTS OF SIGNAGE.
03:30:48PM SIGNAGE IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
03:30:50PM 20 SIGNS FOR ONE LOT AND WE HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS
03:30:58PM RELATED TO SIGNAGE.
03:30:59PM WE CLEARLY -- THERE SHOULD NOT BE SIGNS ON THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
03:31:03PM ADJACENT TO THE PARKING LOTS.
03:31:05PM IMPEDING ON THE PEDESTRIAN WAY.
03:31:07PM IT IS A HAZARD.
03:31:08PM WE ALSO DISCOVERED THAT MANY LOTS ARE MISSING AND NOT A
03:31:15PM REQUIREMENT OF THE CODE.
03:31:15PM SECTION 14-64 AND RELATES TO PUBLIC CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOL.
03:31:21PM IT WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY AND HAVE A SIGN THAT SAYS -- LET ME
03:31:27PM GO AHEAD WITH A FEW.
03:31:29PM UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO CONSUME ANY ALCOHOLIC
03:31:32PM BEVERAGE ON PROPERTY UPON WHICH THE OWNER HAS POSTED THIS
03:31:35PM SEEN.
03:31:35PM AND SAYS WHAT THAT NOTICE SHOULD BE.
03:31:37PM THAT WAS ONE THING WE NEED TO UPDATE OUR CODE THAT THESE
03:31:41PM SIGNS NEED TO BE POSTED WITHIN.
03:31:43PM AND WE SHOULD HAVE A SET STANDARD FOR WHAT THOSE SIGNS
03:31:47PM WITHIN THE LOTS WILL BE.
03:31:48PM BUT GOING BACK, ALSO, WE SHOULD HAVE OURS OF
03:32:01PM OPERATION, TOWING INFORMATION.
03:32:02PM THESE ASSIGNMENTS CAN BE FOR NONPAID LOTS AS WELL.
03:32:05PM WHEN WE STARTED OUT, WE WERE NOT LOOKING AT THE NONPAID
03:32:08PM LOTS.
03:32:08PM AND I -- AND IF IT IS THE DIRECTION WE TRAVEL IN, THAT IS
03:32:13PM COUNCIL'S WISH THAT THESE STANDARDS AIR PLY TO ANY LOT.
03:32:22PM I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND ANALYZE THAT.
03:32:24PM GETTING ALL OF THIS TOGETHER WAS A VERY LARGE UNDERTAKING
03:32:28PM AND I DIDN'T WANT TO EXPAND OUT OF AREAS AND DO THIS PART
03:32:32PM FIRST AND THEN GO ON TO THE NEXT STEPS.
03:32:34PM SO, ALSO, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
03:32:41PM IF WE REQUIRE LOTS TO PHYSICALLY CLOSE AND I WILL TALK ABOUT
03:32:44PM THAT COMING UP, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE A NOTIFICATION ON THERE
03:32:47PM IF THEY ARE NOT IN OPERATION WHO YOU WOULD CONTACT TO
03:32:55PM POTENTIALLY RETRIEVE YOUR CAR.
03:32:58PM A LOT OF THIS LOOKS INTO DRINKING AND STRIVING AND PEOPLE
03:33:01PM TRYING TO GET THEIR CARS OUT WHEN YOU ARE REALLY JUST TRYING
03:33:04PM TO SECURE THE PROPERTY IN A WAY SO LOITER SOMETHING NOT
03:33:09PM HAPPENING.
03:33:09PM AFTER THE CLUBS HAVE CLOSED, 2 A.M.
03:33:14PM AND IT IS REALLY BALANCING ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT
03:33:20PM REGULATIONS TOGETHER.
03:33:21PM SO THE OTHER RECOMMENDATION THAT IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE
03:33:30PM SLIDE RELATED TO THE SIGN POSTING FOR THE ALCOHOL, BECAUSE
03:33:32PM THE CONSUMPTION IS, IF WE PUT THIS INTO CHAPTER 27.
03:33:37PM AND IN BOTH 14 AND 27 GIVES BOTH TPD AND CODE ENFORCEMENT
03:33:45PM THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE THIS.
03:33:47PM UNIFIED BUFFER REQUIREMENTS.
03:33:51PM RIGHT NOW THE CODE IS CONFUSING.
03:33:53PM TWO DIFFERENT STANDARDS.
03:33:54PM ONE BEING 175-SQUARE-FOOT LOT, ONE IF IT IS ABOVE.
03:34:01PM ALSO REQUIRES LANDSCAPING WITH OR WITHOUT IRRIGATION.
03:34:05PM IT DOESN'T SEEM TO FLOURISH VERY WELL IN THAT AREA.
03:34:09PM BECOMES AN EYESORE.
03:34:12PM FOOT TRAFFIC IS TRAMPLING ON IT.
03:34:14PM SO WE ARE PROVIDING A CONSIDERATION THAT WE APPLIED
03:34:23PM UNIFORM BUFFERING STANDARD.
03:34:26PM THREE FOOT OR FOUR-FOOT ALONG THE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAT WILL BE
03:34:29PM CONSISTENT TO THE DISTRICT'S STANDARDS AND INTERIOR LOT
03:34:32PM LINES WILL HAVE A MINIMUM OF SIX FOOT FOR A MAXIMUM OF
03:34:37PM EIGHT-FOOT FENCE.
03:34:37PM WHEN YOU ARE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, YOU WILL HAVE TO
03:34:40PM PROVIDE A FIVE-FOOT DISTANCE FROM THE FENCE TO THE SPACES
03:34:50PM RIGHT NOW WE WILL DO THAT A WALL WITH 15 FEET.
03:34:55PM SOME ARE SMALL LOTS AND WOULD NEVER GET SPACES AT ALL.
03:34:58PM WE ARE TRYING TO FIND A BALANCE THAT WILL PROVIDE THAT
03:35:02PM BUFFERING, BUT ALSO PROVIDE LESS MAINTENANCE ON THE LOT
03:35:04PM WHERE IT IS BEING MAINTAINED AND NOT AN EYESORE.
03:35:07PM ALL FENCE ALSO BE REQUIRED TO MEET THE SIGHT VISIBILITIES.
03:35:16PM IF ALTERNATIVES WERE REQUESTED, THEY WOULD GO THROUGH DENNIS
03:35:28PM >> A NEW ORLANDO DOES USE.
03:35:37PM THE OPERATOR SAYS I INTEND TO OPERATE THIS LOT AND HERE IS
03:35:42PM HOW I AM MEETING THE CODE.
03:35:44PM YOU HEAR ME TALK A LOT OF TIMES I DON'T LIKE PUTTING
03:35:47PM DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
03:35:49PM THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.
03:35:51PM LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS REGULATE LAND, NOT OPERATIONS.
03:35:55PM THIS WILL PROVIDE A MECHANIC, A PLAN THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED
03:35:59PM TO DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION OR ACTUALLY GO THROUGH DENNIS
03:36:05PM EACH YEAR TO SHOW HERE IS MY LOT.
03:36:08PM I INTEND TO OPERATE IT AS A LOT DURING THE 150 -- 10 P.M. TO
03:36:17PM 4 A.M.
03:36:18PM THIS IS HOW I AM COMPLYING WITH THE BUFFERING AND SIGN
03:36:22PM REQUIREMENTS.
03:36:22PM HERE IS THE CONTACT INFORMATION.
03:36:25PM HERE IS THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
03:36:26PM AND THEN IT WOULD GO FROM THERE.
03:36:28PM THAT IS NOT INTENDED TO BE BURDENSOME OR IT WOULD -- IF YOU
03:36:33PM ARE DOING IT YEAR AFTER YEAR, YOU WOULD SIMPLY PROVIDE AN
03:36:40PM AFFIDAVIT THAT YOU ARE CONTINUING TO OPERATE IN THE SAME WAY
03:36:43PM THAT YOU FILED THE YEAR BEFORE.
03:36:44PM I THINK WE CAN WORK THAT OUT IN A MORE MEANINGFUL WAY THAT
03:36:47PM PUTS US ON NOTICE OF THE OPERATOR'S INTENT.
03:36:52PM AND GIVES US THAT ANNUAL CHECK OF COMPLIANCE.
03:36:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I MEAN, THAT IS THE SAME AS GOING ON SUN
03:36:59PM BIZ AND IF YOU GIVE A REPORT.
03:37:03PM ANNUAL BUSINESS LICENSE AND EVERY YEAR -- I AM LOOKING AT
03:37:07PM BOTH SIDES.
03:37:07PM I AM LOOKING AT BOTH SIDES.
03:37:09PM YOU ARE OPERATING.
03:37:11PM YOU HAVE A SITE PLAN.
03:37:12PM IF NOTHING CHANGES, YOU CAN KEEP SUBMITTING EVERY YEAR.
03:37:16PM COMMITMENT TO PROVIDE SECURITY.
03:37:18PM YOU HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE SECURITY COMPANY.
03:37:20PM BASIC INFORMATION, HOURS OF OPERATION.
03:37:22PM AND THEN SIGNAGE, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
03:37:25PM DECLUTTERING, INSTEAD OF 20 SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY.
03:37:28PM THIS IS WHO YOU REPORT.
03:37:30PM THIS IS THE TOWING.
03:37:32PM I THINK THAT IS FAIR.
03:37:34PM I DON'T THINK IT IS BURDENSOME.
03:37:36PM YES, SIR.
03:37:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SIGNAGE.
03:37:42PM ENTRANCES AND EXITS.
03:37:44PM THERE ARE SOME PARKING LOTS WITHIN A FEW FEET OF EACH OTHER,
03:37:48PM EVEN IF YOU RESTRICT SIGNAGE, DUPLICATION OF SIGNAGE
03:37:51PM HERE AND TEN FEET LATER SIGNAGE THERE.
03:37:53PM MULTIPLE ENTRANCES TO ITS SAME PIECE WHICH IS KIND OF ODD TO
03:37:57PM ME.
03:37:58PM THE SIGNAGE CLUTTER IS ABSOLUTELY CRAZY.
03:38:01PM DOESN'T OUR CURRENT CODE RESTRICT THAT?
03:38:06PM MAYBE THIS IS A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
03:38:08PM SHOULDN'T WE BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE SIGNS.
03:38:13PM I SEE SIGNS THAT ARE TOO BIG.
03:38:15PM AGAIN, MULTIPLE SIGNAGE ON THE LOTS.
03:38:17PM IT IS JUST CRAZY WHAT I'M SEEING ON SOME OF THESE
03:38:21PM PROPERTIES.
03:38:21PM DO WE ACTUALLY NEED CODE OR DO WE NEED ENFORCEMENT?
03:38:27PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WELL, THE MISSING SIGN, THE ONE RELATED TO
03:38:30PM THE ALCOHOL.
03:38:30PM WE DO NEED TO CHANGE THE CODE FOR THAT.
03:38:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT CAN BE INCLUDED ON --
03:38:34PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: CORRECT.
03:38:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: -- ONE GENERAL INFORMATION SIGN AND HAVE
03:38:39PM THAT INCLUDED.
03:38:40PM >> EACH SHALL CONTAIN ONE SIGN WITH ONE INFORMATION.
03:38:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS HOW YOU PAY.
03:38:45PM THIS IS WHERE YOU GOT TOWED.
03:38:48PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
03:38:50PM AND I CAN LET KEITH SPEAK, BUT I BELIEVE WE CAN ENFORCE
03:38:54PM TODAY.
03:38:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S DO THAT.
03:38:56PM [LAUGHTER]
03:39:00PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: KEITH MAY TELL YOU OTHERWISE.
03:39:02PM >> TALKING OF SIGNS THAT ADVERTISE THIS IS ACME PARKING LOT.
03:39:05PM THAT SIGN WOULD HAVE LIMITATIONS IN THE CODE ON HOW BIG IT
03:39:09PM CAN BE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
03:39:10PM IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT -- YOU ONLY ALLOWED THREE EXIT
03:39:14PM SIGNS PER EXIT OR WHATEVER, THAT I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS
03:39:18PM WRITTEN IN THE CODE THAT WAY OR THAT SPECIFIC, IF IT IS
03:39:21PM WRITTEN IN THERE AND IT IS A RULE, THEN WE CAN ENFORCE IT.
03:39:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BLOCK THAT.
03:39:26PM MAYBE AGAIN WHEN WE DRAFT THIS WHAT THE PARKING LOT LOOKS
03:39:30PM LIKE.
03:39:30PM HOW MANY ENTRANCES AND EXITS.
03:39:32PM THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC.
03:39:33PM AND COMING IN AND OUT.
03:39:40PM I SEE SOME THAT ARE HAPPEN HAS HARD.
03:39:44PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES WE HAVE FOUND.
03:39:47PM THEY RECEIVED A PERMIT.
03:39:49PM FOR TEN SPACES IN CONFIGURATION.
03:39:52PM AND NOW IT IS 2 SPACES IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
03:39:55PM CONFIGURATION.
03:39:56PM THAT IS PART OF THE ENFORCEMENT WE ARE HANDLING.
03:39:59PM LIKE YOUR BLC PERMIT WAS TO THIS.
03:40:02PM YOUR OPTIONS ARE TO RETURN TO THIS OR COME AND GET A NEW
03:40:05PM PERMIT TO BECOME THIS.
03:40:06PM THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES WE ARE FACING BRINGING
03:40:16PM THIS BACK IN COMPLIANCE.
03:40:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS WHY STAFF CRINGES WHEN PANDORA'S
03:40:22PM BOX OPENS.
03:40:23PM BALLS YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT WILLFULLY OUT OF IT.
03:40:26PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT'S OKAY.
03:40:27PM IT'S OKAY.
03:40:28PM IMPLICATIONS AND NEXT STEPS.
03:40:30PM IF WE PROCEED ON REMOVING THE PRINCIPAL PARKING AS A
03:40:34PM PERMITTED USE.
03:40:35PM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
03:40:36PM IT CAN MAKE THE LOTS NONCONFORMING.
03:40:39PM THEY CAN HAVE SPECIAL.
03:40:42PM IF WE WENT TO THE SPECIAL USE ROUTE, IT WOULD NEGATE SOME OF
03:40:46PM THE INSURANCE ISSUES RAISED BY SOME COUNTY OPERATORS, BUT
03:40:48PM STILL ALLOW FOR LOTS TO BE ELEVATED TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
03:40:52PM THEY ARE NOT PERMITED ANYMORE.
03:40:54PM THEY ARE CONTINUAL USES.
03:40:56PM THEY HAVE A SET OF STANDARDS AND REQUIRED A PUBLIC HEARING
03:40:59PM BEFORE THIS BOARD.
03:40:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:41:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
03:41:04PM WILL THE PARKING LOTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY PERMITTED --
03:41:08PM PERMITTED UNDER FIVE AND SIX BE ALLOWED TO BE MOVE INTO SU-2
03:41:19PM OR DO THEY ALL HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF US.
03:41:22PM >> A CONDITION IN THE CODE CONSIDERED SPECIAL USES
03:41:26PM CONSIDERED NOT TO BE NONCONFORMING.
03:41:28PM IT SHOULD BE THAT THEY ARE CONSIDERED TO BE CONFORM CAN.
03:41:30PM BUT IT IS AN OLD PROVISION.
03:41:32PM PLACES OF RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY USED TO BE A PERMITTED -- NOW
03:41:37PM THEY ARE A SPECIAL USE.
03:41:38PM IF YOU WERE A CHURCH BEFORE THAT, YOU ARE LEGIT BUT THERE
03:41:44PM ARE CONDITIONS.
03:41:45PM IF YOU EXPAND, IF YOU CEASE OPERATION, I CAN BRING THEM BACK
03:41:50PM TO YOU -- IF WE GO IN THIS DIRECTION, DIRECTION.
03:41:57PM IF YOU CEASE OPERATION FOR 180 DAYS, THEN, YES, YOU WILL
03:42:01PM HAVE TO COME BAND ACT YOU BASICALLY SAID I LOST MY LOT.
03:42:05PM AND NOW I WANT TO RE-ESTABLISH UNDER THE SPECIAL USE.
03:42:08PM WON'T BE COMPLETELY TAKEN AWAY BUT WILL COME BEFORE THIS
03:42:13PM BOARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
03:42:13PM THIS COUNCIL.
03:42:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:42:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HATE TO TALK SO MUCH.
03:42:20PM I KNOW WE ARE TALKING OF YBOR CITY BUT THE CITY AS A HOLE.
03:42:23PM IS SPECIAL USE A DESIGNATION THAT WE CAN USE FOR THE
03:42:26PM EXPANSION OF PARKING.
03:42:27PM LIKE -- ANYWHERE ELSE.
03:42:29PM SO LET'S SAY -- OKAY, NOW WE COME TO A FULL STOP NOW ON
03:42:34PM SURFACE PARKING EXPANSION.
03:42:36PM AND THEN PEOPLE HAVE TO APPLY FOR SPECIAL USE TO BE ABLE --
03:42:39PM THAT THEY WANTED TO START IT AS PARKING LOT.
03:42:41PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY THERE ARE
03:42:50PM DIFFERENT REGULATIONS.
03:42:51PM I AM GOING -- WE ARE GETTING READY TO KICK OFF THE CODE
03:42:54PM REFORM.
03:42:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN REFER TO A PRIVATE CONVERSATION.
03:43:00PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: A CODE REFORM AND GET AN ANALYSIS OF OUR
03:43:03PM CODE BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE '87, YOU KNOW.
03:43:07PM WE HAVE PRIORITIES WITHIN THOSE DISCUSSIONS SUCH AS HOUSING
03:43:10PM AFFORDABILITY.
03:43:11PM IF ANY OF THAT IS ONE OF THAT.
03:43:12PM AND WE WILL COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
03:43:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
03:43:17PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: ONE THING I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH SUSAN
03:43:22PM AND CAMARIA ON, IF WE PUT THESE NEW STANDARDS IN, AS A LOT,
03:43:28PM YOU ARE NOT VESTED.
03:43:30PM WE PUT IN AN ANNUAL OPERATING PLAN.
03:43:33PM IF YOU HAD A LOT FOR 20 YEARS, LANGUAGE IN THE CODE THAT
03:43:37PM SAYS AS OF JULY 1 OF 2024, ALL EXISTING LOTS ARE SUBJECT TO
03:43:44PM THE FOLLOWING.
03:43:44PM WHERE WE BRING EVERYBODY INTO THIS NEW SET OF REGULATIONS.
03:43:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WOULD PRESENT THIS AS THE FEBRUARY 2
03:43:51PM WORKSHOP TO GIVE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
03:43:56PM SPEAK IF THEY COME.
03:43:57PM >> WE WILL PUT THIS INTO THE JANUARY CYCLE.
03:43:59PM IS THAT RIGHT?
03:44:01PM WHICH WILL BE IN FEBRUARY.
03:44:02PM SO LIKE WE COME TO YOU WITH THOSE AMENDMENTS.
03:44:07PM WE COME AND DO THE PUBLIC INFORMATION WORKSHOP AND DO WHAT
03:44:10PM WE DO.
03:44:11PM THE JANUARY CYCLE IS IT JUST STARTING RUNNING.
03:44:14PM IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT WE CAN PUT IT INTO THAT AND IT WILL
03:44:17PM GO LIKE A REGULAR TEXT AMENDMENT AND HAVE THOSE SAME MEET
03:44:20PM WILLING AND IS IT WOULDN'T BE FOR A LITTLE WHILE UNTIL IT
03:44:23PM GOT ADOPTED, BUT IT WOULD -- JULY 1 WILL BE THE TARGETED
03:44:30PM EFFECTIVE DATE.
03:44:31PM >> OKAY, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:44:35PM >> SHORT OF, LIKE WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAME UP WITH
03:44:39PM BEFORE.
03:44:40PM WE ARE GIVING YOU THE BLESSING TO GET STARTED ON THIS.
03:44:44PM BUT STILL PUBLIC WORKSHOP.
03:44:46PM STILL A LOT BEFORE.
03:44:48PM ANYTHING THAT WE DECIDE TODAY IS NOT IN STONE YET.
03:44:52PM WE ARE TELLING YOU THE DIRECTION OF WHICH WE WOULD LIKE YOU
03:44:57PM TO GO.
03:44:58PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
03:44:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE IN YOUR PRESENTATION?
03:45:00PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT'S IT.
03:45:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD YOU LIKE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL TO
03:45:05PM GIVE YOU DIRECTION?
03:45:07PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, PLEASE.
03:45:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAD HER HAND UP.
03:45:10PM YES, SIR, MR. SHELBY.
03:45:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THE DATE.
03:45:15PM DID YOU SAY THE 22nd OF FEBRUARY?
03:45:17PM IS THAT WHAT YOU STAYED?
03:45:19PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES.
03:45:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE WORKSHOP.
03:45:22PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: RIGHT NOW FEBRUARY 22 IS THE WORKSHOPS THAT
03:45:28PM HAVE THE JANUARY TEXT AMENDMENTS ON THERE.
03:45:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE WHATEVER
03:45:32PM INFORMATION UPLOADED?
03:45:34PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE DRAFTED THE ORDINANCE ALREADY.
03:45:37PM OUR TEAM'S DISCUSSION THAT PUTTING THE LANGUAGE OUT THERE
03:45:40PM BEFORE WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU EVEN THOUGH WE
03:45:42PM COULD HAVE AND REALLY WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO THE
03:45:47PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE -- THE STAKEHOLDERS IN MATTER, BUT WE
03:45:52PM WANTED TO HAVE TODAY.
03:45:52PM WE PULLED BACK ON THAT.
03:45:53PM BUT WE DO HAVE IT DRAFTED, YES.
03:45:55PM WE HAVE -- THE BONES PUT TOGETHER AND WE NEEDED DIRECTION
03:46:01PM FROM TODAY AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET IT PUT TOGETHER.
03:46:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I WOULD LIKE TO SO THAT PERSONALLY, I -- I
03:46:09PM THINK THE SU-2 VERSION IS THE WAY TO GO, BECAUSE IT WILL
03:46:15PM PROTECT THE CURRENT LOT OWNERS, BUT IT DOESN'T -- BUT IT
03:46:19PM ALSO ENCOURAGES MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE LOTS IF PEOPLE WIN
03:46:24PM TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THEM.
03:46:25PM THE ONLY OTHER BIG DIFFERENCE FOR ME.
03:46:29PM I LIKE EVERYTHING IN HERE.
03:46:31PM I DON'T HAVE A -- AGAIN, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO -- I GUESS WE
03:46:35PM WILL JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE LEGAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A
03:46:39PM --
03:46:40PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE CAN WORK ONLY IT.
03:46:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TYPES OF SECURITY GUARDS.
03:46:44PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: WE CAN WORK ON THAT.
03:46:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE STANDARDS SHOULD
03:46:48PM APPLY TO ALL LOTS.
03:46:49PM BECAUSE I FIND THAT THE TWO-LOT THING IS CONFUSING FOR
03:46:52PM PEOPLE.
03:46:52PM I MEAN, IT IS EITHER A LOT OR IT IS NOT A LOT.
03:46:56PM EITHER GOING TO BE OPEN AFTER 10:00 OR NOT.
03:46:59PM I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME CONSISTENCY THERE.
03:47:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:47:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
03:47:11PM I SWORE TO GOD I WASN'T GOING TO TALK AGAIN, BUT HERE I AM.
03:47:16PM MY GUT TELLS ME THE SAME THING.
03:47:18PM I WANT CONSISTENCY.
03:47:22PM EQUAL PROTECTION.
03:47:23PM MAKES SENSE TO ME AS FAR AS WE HAVE ONE STANDARD -- HONESTLY
03:47:28PM I WOULD LIKE ONE STANDARD ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY AND NOT
03:47:31PM SPECIFIC TO JUST ONE AREA.
03:47:33PM AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO FUTURE CONVERSATIONS, I APPRECIATE THE
03:47:38PM FACT THAT YOU ARE WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE
03:47:40PM PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAKE SURE -- EVERYBODY HAS INTEREST IN
03:47:42PM THIS.
03:47:42PM AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT I BELIEVE THE
03:47:49PM COMPLIANCE ISSUES AND ENTRANCES, I BELIEVE WE NEED TO GET
03:47:52PM THAT IN LINE WITH THE DIRECTION OF THE CITY.
03:47:56PM I APPRECIATE THAT STAFF HAS DONE THIS.
03:47:58PM I KNOW THIS IS BURDENSOME.
03:48:00PM SENSITIVE.
03:48:01PM IT IS DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
03:48:04PM I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAS DONE WITH START
03:48:07PM OF THAT.
03:48:08PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT FROM US OTHER THAN GO FORWARD AND
03:48:11PM CONQUER.
03:48:12PM YOU HEARD THE COMMENTS, I SAY GO FORWARD AND MOVE FORWARD
03:48:15PM WITH THIS AND BRING US BACK A DOCUMENT AND LET US MOVE
03:48:21PM FORWARD WITH THE DOCUMENT.
03:48:22PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: LET ME ASK THE NONPAID VERSUS HAVE PAID,
03:48:27PM YOU WANT THE PHYSICAL STANDARDS TO BE THE SAME, FENCING,
03:48:32PM BUFFERING, SIGNAGE, BUT NOT THE SECURITY ACCESS.
03:48:36PM ONLY FOR THOSE LOTS THAT ARE OPERATING AFTER 10 P.M. AND
03:48:40PM TAKING PAYMENT.
03:48:49PM IF THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT CLOSES AT 11:00, THEIR LOT
03:48:53PM SHOULDN'T BE USED.
03:48:55PM IF THE PARKING IS DIRECTLY TO, IT IS NOT PLAIN PAL PARKING.
03:48:58PM PRINCIPAL PARKING WHEN THE LOT IS PARKING AND NOT ASSOCIATED
03:49:02PM WITH ANY OTHER USE.
03:49:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE HEAR THE SENTIMENTS OF OTHER
03:49:13PM COUNCILMEMBERS.
03:49:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GENTLEMEN, LADIES, MA'AM?
03:49:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I AM LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION AND I
03:49:20PM WANT TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF AND ALL THE HARD WORK YOU
03:49:23PM HAVE DONE.
03:49:23PM I UNDERSTAND IT.
03:49:24PM THE PRIVATE PARKING LIKE THE COLUMBIA REQUIRING THE SAME
03:49:36PM SIGNAGE.
03:49:36PM IT IS REASONABLE AND CAN'T BE CONFUSE HAPPENING IN IS MY
03:49:39PM ONLY QUESTION.
03:49:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
03:49:43PM NO?
03:49:44PM WAIT, WAIT, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND THEN GO BACK.
03:49:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO GUARDS -- OH, I AM
03:49:53PM SORRY.
03:49:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GO ON.
03:50:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL JUST SAY THAT IT IS SOMETHING THAT
03:50:04PM SHOULD HAVE A DEEPER CONVERSATION.
03:50:08PM INITIALLY IF THEY CLOSE AT 11.
03:50:11PM I THINK THEY CLOSE AT 12.
03:50:12PM A TWO-HOUR THING AND THE ISSUE IS, ARE PEOPLE PARKING.
03:50:16PM I WILL BE HONEST, I AM NOT DOWN THERE AS MUCH.
03:50:20PM ARE PEOPLE PARKING IN THOSE LOTS ANYWAY EVEN IF THERE ARE
03:50:24PM NOT PEOPLE THERE.
03:50:25PM THAT IS THE BIGGER ISSUE FOR US.
03:50:27PM IS SOMEONE USING THAT PARKING LOT AFTER MIDNIGHT BECAUSE I
03:50:31PM DON'T THINK THEY HAVE GATES ON THAT PARKING HOSPITAL.
03:50:34PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I REALIZED THAT I DID NOT COVER THAT PART.
03:50:37PM I THINK I WENT THROUGH IT.
03:50:38PM BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ORLANDO DOES REQUIRE.
03:50:40PM WHEN YOU ARE DONE OPERATING THE LOT, THE LOT IS DONE, YOU
03:50:43PM CLOSE IT.
03:50:44PM YOU PHYSICALLY PLACE AND HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH
03:50:53PM DENNIS BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE,
03:50:56PM RIGHT.
03:50:56PM IF IT WILL WOOD PICKET FENCE OUT THERE.
03:50:59PM WHEN THE LOT CLOSES, THEY EACH SHOULD HAVE A SECTION OF
03:51:03PM FENCE THAT THEY THEN REATTACH AND IT IS PHYSICALLY CLOSED SO
03:51:06PM YOU CAN NOT ENTER THE LOT ONE THE LOT'S HOURS OF OPERATION
03:51:12PM HAVE CEASED.
03:51:14PM SAME THEY THINK IF YOUR CAR HAPPENS TO BE IN THERE, YOU NEED
03:51:17PM TO CONTACT.
03:51:18PM IF THE LOT REOPENS TOMORROW YOU GET IT VERSUS SENDING
03:51:22PM WRECKERS AT:30 IN THE MORNING NEXT TO THE HOUSE TO RIB
03:51:26PM MOVING THE CARS.
03:51:27PM ONE ASPECTS IN US DISCUSSING THAT.
03:51:30PM THAT I MISSED THAT IN MY PRESENTATION.
03:51:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PANDORA'S BOX.
03:51:36PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: IT'S HARD.
03:51:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS.
03:51:39PM WE SHOULD GO FORWARD WITH STANDARDS APPLYING TO ALL LOTS.
03:51:43PM WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE IF YOUR LOT CLOSES FROM 12.
03:51:49PM FROM 10 TO 4.
03:51:51PM IF YOUR LOT CLOSES AT 12, YOU WILL ONLY NEED A -- I DON'T
03:51:54PM KNOW.
03:51:54PM I WILL TAKE THAT BACK TO BOTH THE LOTS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD
03:51:57PM AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK.
03:51:58PM BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY IT.
03:52:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:52:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FROM WHAT I HEARD, THE COLUMBIA DOES NOT
03:52:07PM CHARGE, CORRECT?
03:52:09PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THEY DO NOT.
03:52:10PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LOT ON 7th AVENUE ON THE NORTH SIDE.
03:52:13PM THE LOT SOUTH THAT GOES TO THE NEXT BLOCK.
03:52:16PM SHARED BETWEEN THEMSELVES AND THE RESTAURANT ACROSS THE
03:52:21PM STREET THAT THEY OWN POTATO OF THEM.
03:52:24PM HOW ARE THEY GOING TO COME OUT OF IT -- THEY DON'T CHARGE
03:52:27PM ANYTHING.
03:52:27PM WILL THEY HAVE A WATCHMAN THERE?
03:52:33PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
03:52:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE COLUMBIA ON THAT
03:52:37PM DEAL.
03:52:37PM THEY ARE A PARKING LOT FOR THEMSELVES WITHOUT CHARGING.
03:52:40PM NC.
03:52:41PM HOW ARE THEY GOING TO BE TREATED, THE SAME WAY?
03:52:45PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THAT'S WHY I WAS HANDS LING THE PAID LOTS
03:52:47PM FIRST.
03:52:48PM THAT IS THE CODE CURRENTLY HAS STANDARDS THAT ARE ATTACHED
03:52:53PM TO THE PAID LOTS AND WE HAVEN'T MOVED ON TO THE NONPAID LOTS
03:52:59PM YET.
03:52:59PM SOME OF THE MESSAGE IF YOU ARE GOING TO REQUIRE THIS OF A
03:53:02PM PAVED LOT, YOU SHOULD REQUIRE IT OF A LOT ALSO.
03:53:06PM I AM HEARING THAT, BUT I HAVE NOT THOUGHT THROUGH WHAT THAT
03:53:09PM NONPAID SITUATION WILL BE YET WHY I ASKED.
03:53:14PM THE PHYSICAL PART OF IT.
03:53:15PM WANT IT BUFFERED AND HAVE FENCING AND OTHER THINGS.
03:53:19PM BOTH THE PHYSICAL AND OPERATIONAL.
03:53:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I BROUGHT THE COLUMBIA UP BECAUSE THEY
03:53:25PM DON'T CHARGE.
03:53:26PM THE TWO LOTS, THE BIG ONES IN THE FRONT AND THE BACK.
03:53:29PM THEY ARE RARELY -- BECAUSE ALL THOSE HAVE PAVING.
03:53:32PM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE ONE ON THE EAST SIDE.
03:53:35PM MOST OF THAT HAVE BEEN PAVED AND AN ALLEYWAY THEY HAVE THE
03:53:38PM RIGHTS TO, SO.
03:53:43PM I AM NOT HERE TO DEFEND EVERYONE, A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PAID
03:53:47PM AND NONPAID.
03:53:51PM IF NOT, WHAT ARE WE HEAR FOR.
03:53:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL?
03:53:57PM ARE YOU GOOD?
03:53:58PM HAVE YOU RECEIVED ENOUGH FEEDBACK?
03:54:00PM [LAUGHTER]
03:54:01PM WOULD YOU LIKE TO --
03:54:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO WE NEED A MOTION?
03:54:09PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD.
03:54:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE FORWARD ON THE PAID STANDARDS AND
03:54:14PM REVISIT THIS.
03:54:15PM THE OTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT HOW THROUGH OUR
03:54:18PM CODE INCENTIVIZE THROUGH THE PARKING.
03:54:22PM BONUSES OR SOMETHING TO INCENTIVIZE OWNERS OF THE PARKING
03:54:26PM SURFACE PARKING LOT TO THE DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTIES AND DO
03:54:29PM WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO.
03:54:30PM ALL FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION, BUT I MOTION FOR STAFF TO MORE
03:54:36PM FORWARD ON PAID PARKING LOTS AND THE OTHERS TO BE CONTINUED.
03:54:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?
03:54:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
03:54:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:54:43PM MR. SHELBY?
03:54:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DOES THIS INCLUDE ADDING SOMETHING TO THE
03:54:47PM FEBRUARY 22 WORKSHOP?
03:54:49PM IT HAS NOT BEEN SET -- IS IT INCLUDED IN THIS.
03:54:55PM >>ERIC COTTON: ERIC COTTON, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
03:54:58PM STAFF IS BRINGING ON THE 22 FOR THE JANUARY CYCLE.
03:55:05PM INFORMATION FORWARDED TO COUNCIL AND SIGNED AND SUCH.
03:55:09PM THIS WILL BE AN ADDENDUM TO THAT.
03:55:11PM WE CAN ADD THAT IN.
03:55:13PM THAT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.
03:55:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PART OF THE MOTION.
03:55:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T NEED THE MOTION.
03:55:18PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO IT IS SAID.
03:55:19PM SO IT IS WRITTEN.
03:55:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUST FOR CLARITY SAKE.
03:55:22PM FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:55:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST SO WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT
03:55:32PM OF IT.
03:55:32PM THE NEXT CYCLE, THE JULY CYCLE, WE START CONSIDERING THE
03:55:36PM REST OF THE LOTS.
03:55:37PM I JUST DON'T WANT THAT TO BE FORGOTTEN.
03:55:40PM AND I ALSO -- BECAUSE I KNOW IT IS A BONE OF CONTENTION WITH
03:55:44PM SOME OF THE OWNERS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD TOO.
03:55:48PM SO LET'S SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO GET THAT FOR THE
03:55:52PM JULY CYCLE.
03:55:53PM IS THAT FAIR?
03:55:55PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: YES, I DID SAY THAT THE CODE REFORM WILL
03:55:58PM KICK OFF.
03:55:58PM SOME TIME, I WANT US REALLY -- BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO BE
03:56:02PM PARTED THAT TO COLLECTIVELY FOCUS ON WORKING ON THAT REFORM
03:56:06PM WITH ERIC AND I AND NOT HAVE PARALLEL TRAVELLED PADS OF TEXT
03:56:13PM AMENDMENTS BECAUSE OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE COHESIVE
03:56:22PM UPDATE TO THE PLAN.
03:56:23PM YES, I WILL NOT LET IT GO AND MY PARTNERS IN THIS WON'T.
03:56:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
03:56:31PM IT COMES TO MY ATTENTION THAT YOUR DAUGHTER WILL HEAR FROM
03:56:34PM FLORIDA STATE TODAY IF SHE WILL GET IN.
03:56:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT IS DECISION DAY.
03:56:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WANT TO WISH HER THE BEST OF LUCK.
03:56:42PM MY WIFE IS GETTING HER MASTER'S THROUGH FLORIDA STATE AS WE
03:56:45PM SPEAK.
03:56:45PM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
03:56:46PM AND SHOUT OUT TO HER AND HOPE IT IS GOOD NEWS.
03:56:49PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU.
03:56:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I ALWAYS DO THIS BUT DO IT FOR HER TODAY.
03:56:53PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: HER NUMBER ONE CHOICE IS U.F. AND THAT IS
03:56:59PM NOT UNTIL NEXT FRIDAY.
03:56:59PM I AM A 'NOLE.
03:57:02PM BUT SHE IS VERY EXCITED.
03:57:03PM WAITING FOR ME TO GO HOME NOW TO CLICK THE BUTTON, THANK YOU
03:57:08PM VERY MUCH.
03:57:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO I SHOULD ADD THIS.
03:57:11PM PICK UP THE BOOK "WHERE YOU GO IS NOT WHAT YOU WILL BE."
03:57:17PM GOOD STORIES OF COLLEGE ADMISSION OF GETTING IN AND NOT
03:57:20PM GETTING IN.
03:57:20PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.
03:57:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM 63 AND 64.
03:57:26PM I -- I -- MR. MASSEY, YOU ARE HERE FOR 63?
03:57:32PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: 36 AND 64.
03:57:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:57:35PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: REAL QUICKLY WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE
03:57:38PM ONLY, MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
03:57:40PM ONE MEMO THAT ADDRESSES BOTH THESE ITEMS.
03:57:43PM 63 DEALS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE TAMPA
03:57:46PM HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT PROJECT.
03:57:48PM WE ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER.
03:57:50PM WE ARE -- WE WILL BE BRINGING YOU FORTH AN AMENDMENT WHERE
03:57:56PM PART OF THAT IS -- I HAVE BEEN THROUGH WITH HIM ALREADY.
03:58:00PM AND PROVIDING INFORMATION THAT HE SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED
03:58:03PM ALREADY OF WHAT IS BUILT RELATED TO DEVELOPMENTS WITH EBF
03:58:08PM AND BUILDING INTO IT ANNUAL REPORTING FOR THE AGREEMENT AND
03:58:12PM SOMEWHAT CONSISTENT WITH THE ORDINANCE I AM PROPOSING OR WE
03:58:15PM ARE PROPOSING UNDER 64.
03:58:17PM 46 IS THE DRAFT ORDINANCE REQUIRE ANY DEVELOPER WHO ENTERS
03:58:21PM INTO A CHAPTER 163 DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF
03:58:25PM TAMPA BE REQUIRED TO ANNUALLY FILE A MONITORING REPORT WITH
03:58:29PM THE CITY STAFF REGARDING COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE COMMITMENTS
03:58:33PM IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
03:58:34PM IF YOU ALL FIND WHAT WAS DRAFTED FAVORABLE, TO BRING IT TO
03:58:44PM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW.
03:58:46PM AND BACK TO YOU ALL FOR CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ADOPTION.
03:58:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HENDERSON.
03:58:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE A MOTION FOR IT.
03:58:52PM FIRST, ATTORNEY MASSEY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOUR
03:58:56PM HARD WORK IN THIS MATTER.
03:58:58PM I APPRECIATE IT.
03:58:59PM MY FIRST, BIG, BIG MOTION THAT WAS SUPPORTED BY COUNCILMAN
03:59:03PM VIERA AND HURTAK.
03:59:04PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 64.
03:59:06PM I MOVE THAT A DRAFT ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR AN UPDATED
03:59:10PM NOTICE PROCESS AND ANNUAL REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR
03:59:13PM DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS ADOPTED PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 163
03:59:17PM FLORIDA STATUTE BE FORWARDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR
03:59:20PM REVIEW.
03:59:20PM AND THEN SCHEDULED FOR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION BY CITY
03:59:25PM COUNCIL.
03:59:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
03:59:28PM HENDERSON.
03:59:28PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:59:30PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:59:31PM ANY OPPOSED.
03:59:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AYE.
03:59:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKES CARE OF BOTH ITEMS?
03:59:41PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: 36 AND 64.
03:59:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
03:59:44PM THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA; HOWEVER, HOWEVER, WE STILL HAVE
03:59:48PM TO TALK ABOUT THE SALARIES.
03:59:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, AT THE BOOT TOMORROW.
03:59:51PM IT WAS ON THE AGENDA.
03:59:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OFFICIALLY -- OFFICIALLY THAT WAS ADDED TO
03:59:56PM THE AGENDA DURING THE APPROVAL.
03:59:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT SURE WAS.
03:59:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S DISCUSS SALARIES HERE.
04:00:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
04:00:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:00:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
04:00:05PM I ACTUALLY MADE THAT MOTION AND NOT ONLY INVOLVED THE
04:00:09PM ADVISORY COMMITTEE INVOLVED IN MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.
04:00:11PM IT ALSO ASKED OUR CFO TO LOOK AT ANY FUNDS LEFT OVER FROM
04:00:16PM LAST FISCAL YEAR.
04:00:19PM AND JUST IMPORTANT THAT WE ADDRESS THIS TOPIC.
04:00:22PM I KNOW THAT -- THANK YOU.
04:00:23PM THERE YOU ARE.
04:00:24PM YOU AND LIKE THAT.
04:00:26PM OKAY.
04:00:27PM I KNOW THAT IT WAS DURING THE ELECTION CYCLE BEFORE I BECAME
04:00:32PM A COUNCILMEMBER.
04:00:34PM THE REASON.
04:00:35PM THE MAYOR PRESENTED FORWARD A RAISE FOR CITY COUNCIL AND IT
04:00:44PM WAS POLITICIZED.
04:00:45PM THAT IS ECHOING, WHAT IS THAT?
04:00:49PM OKAY.
04:00:49PM ALL RIGHT, SO -- IT WAS POLITICIZED.
04:00:56PM AND I KNOW THAT COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, DID NOT WANT TO MOVE
04:01:02PM FORWARD A RAISE.
04:01:02PM I THINK IT WAS A 4-3 VOTE FOR THAT NOT GET CAN THE RAISE.
04:01:07PM ABOUT $70,000 WHICH I THINK WAS 40%.
04:01:09PM I AM NOT SURE -- I AM NOT REMEMBERING THE PERCENTAGE.
04:01:12PM NOW WE ARE HERE.
04:01:13PM A NEW COUNCIL.
04:01:13PM WE ARE NOT EVEN ONE YEAR IN.
04:01:15PM AND I JUST THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ADDRESS THIS.
04:01:18PM NOT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF JUST US, BUT TALKING ABOUT HOW
04:01:21PM THIS COUNCIL THE BODY OF THIS COUNCIL LOOKS MOVING FORWARD
04:01:27PM NOW THAT I AM IN THIS POSITION.
04:01:28PM I CAN CLEARLY SEE THE AMOUNT OF WORK IT TAKES TO PUT -- THAT
04:01:32PM GOES INTO IT.
04:01:33PM MY OVERACHIEVER PERSONALITY IS NOT NECESSARILY OF WHAT I
04:01:39PM EXPECT PEOPLE TO DO THAT SERVE IN A POSITION LIKE THIS.
04:01:42PM SO FOR ME, THE AVERAGE SALARY FOR A CITIZEN IN CITY OF TAMPA
04:01:50PM RUNS ABOUT $60,000-PLUS.
04:01:53PM I SEE A REASONABLENESS IN RAISING OUR SALARY BY MAY 1, WHICH
04:01:58PM IS OUR ANNIVERSARY -- ONE-YEAR ANNIVERSARY BY 15%.
04:02:02PM I AM ASKING YOU AS OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER TO LOOK
04:02:06PM AT THAT COST.
04:02:06PM I EQUATED IT TO ABOUT $20,000 IF WE WERE TO VOTE ON THAT
04:02:11PM WHAT IT WOULD COST US RIGHT NOW TO RECEIVE THOSE FUNDS AS OF
04:02:15PM MAY 1 THROUGH THE END OF OUR FISCAL YEAR.
04:02:18PM HOW MUCH THAT WILL COST.
04:02:19PM OUR COUNTY CALCULATED ABOUT $25,000.
04:02:22PM AND THEN HAVING A 15% RAISE.
04:02:25PM YOU KNOW, PUT INTO THE BUDGET FOR -- FOR THE COMING YEAR.
04:02:30PM SO I KNOW THAT -- YOU KNOW, SOME MEMBERS DON'T SUPPORT THAT,
04:02:34PM BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT BEYOND JUST US RIGHT NOW.
04:02:39PM THE REASONABLENESS OF BRINGING IT TO AN AVERAGE SALARY, I
04:02:44PM THINK, IS SOMETHING THAT WILL PROVIDE AN INTEREST TO -- TO
04:02:52PM COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN POLITICS BUT CANNOT
04:02:59PM AFFORD TO SIT ON THE BODY LIKE IN BECAUSE OF THE INCOME.
04:03:02PM AND I JUST REALLY BELIEVE THAT IF YOU LOOK AT -- IT DOESN'T
04:03:06PM TAKE A STUDY.
04:03:07PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE BODY WHO HAS SAT ON COUNCIL OVER THE PAST
04:03:11PM 50 YEARS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, YOU DON'T SEE -- I AM NOT
04:03:14PM TYPICAL.
04:03:15PM A SINGLE PARENT IS NOT THE TYPICAL CITY COUNCILMEMBER.
04:03:21PM I AM THE 16th WOMAN.
04:03:23PM THE 16th WOMAN IN THE HISTORY.
04:03:26PM SO MAKES HURTAK THE 15th WOMAN IN THE HISTORY.
04:03:30PM AND THAT IN ITSELF JUST DEFINES THAT THIS POSITION, WE NEED
04:03:35PM TO LOOK AT THE INCOME LEVEL SO THAT WE CAN ATTRACT A MORE
04:03:39PM POPULATION OF PEOPLE THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN POLITICS.
04:03:42PM AND I AM GOING TO, YOU KNOW, PURSUE THAT -- OF COURSE I WANT
04:03:45PM TO HEAR COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S COMMENTS AND OTHER MEMBERS
04:03:48PM BEFORE WE MOVE ON, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AS
04:03:54PM TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU ARE FOR OR AGAINST IT.
04:03:56PM AND LET THE PUBLIC HEAR IT.
04:03:59PM I BELIEVE THAT 15% IS ABOUT A $8,000 RAISE BASED $50,400
04:04:07PM THAT WE MAKE RIGHT NOW WHICH IS -- -- YOU KNOW, NOT OF
04:04:14PM AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME.
04:04:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION TO YOU.
04:04:17PM YOU WANT TO RAISE IT TO THE AVERAGE MEDIUM INCOME.
04:04:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AT LEAST -- WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY
04:04:27PM -- LET ME TURN ON MICROPHONE.
04:04:29PM WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT BY ONE OF OUR ADVISORY BOARD.
04:04:32PM AND HER NUMBERS FOLLOW SYNC WHAT I CAN AGREE WITH.
04:04:37PM DID YOU PUT IT ON THE SCREEN FOR US?
04:04:41PM >> YEAH.
04:04:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN YOU CUT ON THAT OVERHEAD.
04:04:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A PUBLIC HEARING.
04:04:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SHE JUST HAD IT ON THE SCREEN FOR A
04:04:49PM VISUAL.
04:04:50PM 63,000.
04:04:52PM MAY BE A LITTLE BIT BETWEEN 15% TO 18%.
04:04:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN CHIEF OF STAFF DID HIS REVIEW OF ALL THE
04:05:03PM PEOPLE AROUND, IT WAS 75.
04:05:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT WAS 75.
04:05:07PM I DON'T THINK THAT WILL GET THE SUPPORT OF THIS BODY.
04:05:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE.
04:05:13PM I AGREE WITH YOU IT SHOULD BE THIS BODY'S GOAL TO TAKE IT
04:05:17PM THERE BY THE END OF OUR TERM, BECAUSE OF EXACTLY WHAT YOU
04:05:20PM SAID.
04:05:20PM I AM THE 15th WOMAN THAT SAT IN THIS SEAT.
04:05:23PM SHE IS THE 16th WOMAN THAT HAS SAT IN THIS SEAT.
04:05:27PM I DON'T KNOW -- WHAT NUMBER ARE YOU?
04:05:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM THE FIRST ONE.
04:05:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT YOU ARE THE LAST MALE.
04:05:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APOLOGIZE.
04:05:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE THE LAST MALE.
04:05:41PM DO YOU KNOW WHAT NUMBER YOU ARE?
04:05:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE NO IDEA.
04:05:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT HAS GOT TO BE IN THE 300s.
04:05:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT IS IN THE 300s.
04:05:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:S IN THE 300s.
04:05:51PM THAT IS NOT MY ONLY ISSUE.
04:05:53PM IT IS -- AS SCHOOL TEACHERS, YOU ARE SERVING YOUR FINAL
04:05:57PM YEAR, BUT IF YOU WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR CAREER, YOU
04:06:00PM COULDN'T DO THIS.
04:06:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CORRECT.
04:06:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU COULD NOT TAKE THIS OFF.
04:06:05PM THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO DO THIS ARE PEOPLE THAT OWN
04:06:08PM THEIR OWN BUSINESSES --
04:06:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OR THEY ARE RICH.
04:06:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OR WEALTHY NOW DO IT.
04:06:15PM THOSE OF US IN HERE OWN OUR OWN BUSINESSES.
04:06:18PM I TOOK SERIOUS PAY CUT TO DO THIS.
04:06:22PM AND I QUESTION THAT ON A MONTHLY BASIS.
04:06:24PM I STILL LOVE MY JOB, BUT IT IS HARD TO CUT YOUR SALARY SO
04:06:27PM MUCH.
04:06:28PM BUT I -- I WANT TO SEE MORE WOMEN IN THIS ROLE.
04:06:32PM I WANT TO SEE MORE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THIS ROLE.
04:06:34PM I WANT TO SEE -- I JUST WANT -- WHEN THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE
04:06:38PM COMES AROUND, I WANT TO SEE A LOT OF DIFFERENT FOLK WHO
04:06:44PM DON'T NORMALLY GET A CHANCE TO DO THIS.
04:06:47PM I THINK THIS IS A VERY EXCITING THING.
04:06:49PM THE CITY IS GROWING.
04:06:51PM EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT IT PER CAPITA, IT HAS GOT TO BE MORE.
04:06:55PM I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE DON'T SUPPORT THIS.
04:06:59PM THIS -- THIS, TO ME, IS SOMETHING -- I DON'T KNOW WHY PEOPLE
04:07:08PM DON'T.
04:07:09PM NO NOT OUR SELF-INTEREST TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE SURE THAT
04:07:14PM PEOPLE THAT COME AFTER US HAVE IT BETTER THAN WE DO.
04:07:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, MIRANDA AND CLENDENIN.
04:07:20PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:07:22PM I AM ALWAYS CLEAR ON MY POSITION.
04:07:24PM I DO NOT SUPPORT FOR MYSELF GIVING MYSELF A PAY INCREASE
04:07:29PM ABOVE INFLATION THIS YEAR BEFORE AN ELECTION.
04:07:31PM IF WE ARE TALKING OF THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL AND PEOPLE WHO
04:07:35PM WILL COME AFTER US.
04:07:36PM I AM NOT JUST OPEN TO THAT BUT SUPPORTIVE OF THE IDEA.
04:07:40PM YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS, BUT I AM SUPPORTED OF THAT
04:07:44PM FOR FUTURE COUNCILS.
04:07:45PM FOR MYSELF, I DON'T SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT IS ABOVE
04:07:48PM INFLATION YEAR BY YEAR.
04:07:51PM I JUST DON'T.
04:07:52PM I TRIED TO HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD HAVE MANDATED THAT
04:07:57PM LIKE THE 27th AMENDMENT -- AND BY THE WAY, I DO WANT TO SAY
04:08:02PM THIS BECAUSE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON MENTIONED THIS.
04:08:04PM ISSUE WAS ORIGINAL POLITICIZED AND THAT IS A SHAME.
04:08:09PM THAT IS A REAL SHAME.
04:08:10PM SO, AGAIN, WHEN I MAKE MY COMMENTS, IT IS NOT POINTING
04:08:14PM FINGERS AT ANYBODY OR FOR SOMETHING OBNOXIOUS.
04:08:20PM JUST MY PRINCIPLE THAT I ALWAYS STUCK TO.
04:08:23PM BEYOND INFLATION ADJUSTMENTS AT OR BEFORE AN ELECTION.
04:08:28PM AFTER AN ELECTION.
04:08:29PM WE NEED TO WAIT TO ANOTHER ELECTION.
04:08:32PM IF THIS IS BROUGHT UP FOR ENTERING COUNCILMEMBERS AND 27, I
04:08:35PM THINK THAT IS VERY REASONABLE AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT
04:08:38PM PEOPLE IN TAMPA COULD SUPPORT AND CERTAINLY SUPPORT THAT.
04:08:42PM ON PRINCIPLES OF FUTURE COUNCILS AND BRING IN MORE PEOPLE,
04:08:46PM VERY SUPPORT TESTIFY.
04:08:48PM BUT FOR US RIGHT NOW, I RESPECTFULLY CAN'T SUPPORT THAT.
04:08:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND COUNCILMAN
04:08:55PM CLENDENIN.
04:08:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: POLITICIZING DOESN'T BOTHER ME ONE BIT.
04:09:01PM I GOT A SALARY FROM 1974 THROUGH NOW.
04:09:05PM AND HOWEVER, IT WAS RUMORED THAT SOME COUNCILMEMBERS -- I
04:09:13PM DON'T KNOW WHO -- I DON'T CARE TO KNOW, WANTED 60%
04:09:16PM OF THE MAYOR'S SALARY TO BE THE COUNCIL'S SALARY.
04:09:23PM THAT IS TOTALLY OUT OF RANGE.
04:09:24PM I IS IT NOT DO THE STUDY BUT SOMEBODY DID THE STUDY, ST.
04:09:29PM PETE, TAMPA, AND ORLANDO HAD THE SALARIES -- MY MIND IS 83
04:09:33PM YEARS OLD.
04:09:34PM THE BODY IS OLD BUT THE MIND IS REAL SHARP IN THIS CASE.
04:09:37PM IT WAS WITHIN $2,000 OR $3,000 OF EACH CITY'S RAISES --
04:09:43PM SALARIES, I SHOULD SAY.
04:09:46PM I'M NOT OPPOSE TO A RAZE.
04:09:48PM I AM OPPOSED TO A RAISE HIGHER THAN THE INFLATION RATE
04:09:54PM HIGHER THAN THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES -- NOT DEPARTMENT HEADS.
04:09:57PM WE ARE -- WE GOT ELECTED TO SERVE THE GENERAL EMPLOYEES OF
04:10:06PM THE CITY OF COMPANY.
04:10:07PM DOES NOT GET A 10, 15, 20% RAISE EVER THAT I KNOW OF.
04:10:12PM THE GUYS AND LADIES WORKING THEIR BUTTS OFF, BUT THEY CAN
04:10:16PM FEED THEIR KIDS.
04:10:17PM I AM NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR A 60% RAISE.
04:10:21PM I CAN TELL YOU IN 1974, THE AVERAGE SALARY WAS 996.
04:10:27PM THAT BOARD, THERE WERE ABOUT FOUR OR TV OF US THAT HAD JUST
04:10:31PM DAILY JOBS.
04:10:31PM ONE OR TWO WERE PROFESSIONAL OR BUSINESS OWNERS.
04:10:35PM I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS I SERVED WITH,
04:10:39PM AT LEAST HALF OF THEM WERE JUST LIKE YOU AND I.
04:10:42PM THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING BUT A REGULAR JOB.
04:10:46PM AND THEIR WIFE OR -- OTHER CASES THE HUSBAND ALSO WORKED.
04:10:51PM LET ME GO DOWN THE CHANGE SO WE UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AT.
04:10:54PM FROM '96 -- I MEAN FROM '74 AND '81, A CHANGE OF $14,000.
04:11:00PM STAYED $14,000, '81 TO '82.
04:11:05PM '87.
04:11:08PM '91, WENT MONTHLY.
04:11:12PM AND IN 1993 IT WENT DOWN.
04:11:16PM AND IN '93 WENT UP, $400 FROM $19,000 TO $19,928.
04:11:26PM '95, WENT TO $25,000.
04:11:30PM 1999 WENT TO $25,250.
04:11:36PM 2021, 27, 360.
04:11:39PM 2022, IT HAS BEEN GOING UP JUST LIKE THE EMPLOYMENT IS FOR
04:11:47PM ALL IN THE CITY.
04:11:48PM NOT STATUS QUO.
04:11:49PM 2003, $28,974.
04:11:53PM 2004, 29,988.
04:11:57PM IN 2005, $35,700.
04:12:04PM AND 2007, $40,248.
04:12:09PM IT HAS BEEN GOING UP ACCORDING TO THE INFLATION RATE OR THE
04:12:13PM GENERAL EMPLOYEES; HOWEVER, FROM 2008, 2340 INCREASE FOR
04:12:22PM COUNCIL.
04:12:23PM AND NO INCREASE ON COUNCIL UNTIL 2014.
04:12:30PM YOU KNOW WHY?
04:12:31PM BECAUSE WE WERE IN A RECESSION.
04:12:33PM WE HAD TO LET GO 758 EMPLOYEES.
04:12:37PM THE IORIO ADMINISTRATION NEVER HAD TIME TO DO THINGS SHE
04:12:43PM WANTED TO DO AND TAKE CARE OF THE CITY BY DOING THINGS SHE
04:12:46PM HAD TO DO.
04:12:47PM A VAST DIFFERENCE WHEN YOU DO IN EVERYBODY'S WORKTABLE THAT
04:12:50PM YOU WANTS TO DO SOMETHING AND YOU CAN'T DO IT AND YOU HAVE
04:12:53PM TO RETRACT.
04:12:54PM WHAT YOU WANT TO DO CHANGE YOUR MOLD AND MAKE SURE YOU SAVE
04:12:57PM THE CITY.
04:12:57PM THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID.
04:12:59PM IN 25014, SALARY WENT FROM 4 1,246 2015, 43,IN 2016,
04:13:18PM $43,576.
04:13:18PM 2017, $24,486.
04:13:22PM 2019, $27,632.
04:13:26PM 2020, $49,000.
04:13:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO THERE HAVE BEEN INCREASES ON COUNCIL'S
04:13:35PM SALARY.
04:13:35PM PROBLEM WITH, WE DON'T WANT TO RECOGNIZE WHAT WAS DONE WITH
04:13:40PM THE STUDY OF ST. PETE, ORLANDO, MIAMI, AND SO FORTH.
04:13:44PM AND -- YOU CAN QUESTION ME ALL YOU WANT, BUT HERE IS A
04:13:48PM RECORD IF YOU WANT IT.
04:13:49PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SALARIES ARE IN ORLANDO.
04:13:54PM I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR IS IN A HEAP OF TROUBLE IN MIAMI.
04:13:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:14:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: INTERESTING.
04:14:04PM ONE, I BELIEVE THAT CHIEF BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF, DID A
04:14:10PM SALARY STUDY.
04:14:11PM AND TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THREE DIFFERENT AREAS.
04:14:13PM I LOOK AT THIS LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
04:14:15PM I RESPECT MY TWO COUNCILMEN AT THE END OF THE DAIS OF THEIR
04:14:19PM OPINIONS ON THIS, BUT I COME AT IT FROM A DIFFERENT
04:14:23PM PERSPECTIVE.
04:14:23PM I THINK IN OUR SOCIETY, WE -- WE PAY PEOPLE FOR VARIOUS
04:14:28PM REASONS.
04:14:28PM YOU KNOW, ACTORS AND FOOTBALL PLAYERS GET PAID A RIDICULOUS
04:14:33PM AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE OF THE INCOME THEY BRING IN AND WHAT
04:14:35PM THEY GENERATE.
04:14:36PM OTHER FOLKS INCLUDING OUR WONDERFUL CITY EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE
04:14:39PM OF THE -- BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT THEY DO EVERY DAY AND THE
04:14:43PM SERVICE THAT THEM PROVIDE TO THE CITY, WE COMPENSATE.
04:14:45PM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
04:14:52PM ONE, HOW MUCH DO OUR ASSISTANTS MAKE.
04:14:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: $95,000.
04:15:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OUR ASSISTANTS MAKE $95,000 A YEAR.
04:15:05PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND UP.
04:15:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BECAUSE THEY GOT INCREMENTAL RAISES AS
04:15:10PM WELL.
04:15:10PM SO WE -- I -- I AM -- YOU COMPENSATE BASED ON EITHER WHAT
04:15:17PM INCOME YOU ARE BRINGING IN OR THE WORK BEING PERFORMED.
04:15:20PM IT IS VERY CLEAR TO ME SINCE I HAVE GOTTEN ON TO THIS
04:15:24PM COUNCIL THAT WE ARE -- THAT THIS -- I WON'T SPEAK TO OTHER
04:15:27PM FOLKS, BUT I FEEL BAD FOR FOLKS, ESPECIALLY SOMEONE -- IF
04:15:31PM SOMEONE -- HAS GIVEN UP INCOME.
04:15:33PM I AM IN A GOOD POSITION BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I HAD A
04:15:36PM RETIREMENT.
04:15:37PM SO I AM NOT -- I AM NOT SUFFERING.
04:15:39PM AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO SACRIFICE TO DO THIS, BUT OTHER FOLKS
04:15:43PM HAVE.
04:15:43PM AND OTHER FOLKS WILL, PEOPLE THAT WILL FOLLOW ME ON COUNCIL.
04:15:47PM AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU COMPENSATE PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY
04:15:52PM DO.
04:15:53PM THIS IS NOT A JOB.
04:15:55PM IF YOU ARE DOING THIS WELL, NOT A FULL-TIME JOB.
04:15:59PM IT IS A FULL-TIME AND A HALF.
04:16:01PM AS RECENT AS THIS PAST WEEK, WE STARTED AT 9:00, HAD A BREAK
04:16:05PM IN THE AFTERNOON BUT WENT TO 3:45.
04:16:07PM I WENT TO SLEEP AT 5:00 IN THE MORNING AND WOKE UP AT
04:16:12PM 8:00 IN THE MORNING.
04:16:13PM WHAT YOU SEE ON TV A AND WHAT YOU SEE FROM COUNCIL CHAMBERS
04:16:17PM A SMALL PIECE OF WHAT HAPPENS.
04:16:18PM BECAUSE THERE ARE VOLUMES -- I HAVEN'T READ THIS MUCH
04:16:21PM INFORMATION SINCE I WAS IN COLLEGE.
04:16:23PM I READ EVERYTHING.
04:16:24PM I READ THE CONTRACTS.
04:16:25PM I GO THROUGH 200-PAGE CONTRACTS.
04:16:27PM I DON'T READ EVERY WORD OF THEM AND GO THROUGH THEM TO SEE
04:16:30PM IF ANYTHING JUMPS OUT AT ME.
04:16:33PM VOLUMES AND VOLUMES OF READING.
04:16:35PM WHAT DO WE DO AS A CITY?
04:16:37PM WE ARE NOT FOOTBALL PLAYERS OR SELLING TV TIME.
04:16:39PM AFTER THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE COULD.
04:16:43PM WE COULD LOOK FOR ENHANCEMENT SELLING CITY COUNCIL
04:16:47PM ENHANCEMENT ON YOUTUBE.
04:16:49PM LOOK, THERE I GO BEING FUNNY AGAIN.
04:16:53PM I CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.
04:16:55PM AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT -- WE ARE CALLED EVERY DAY TO MAKE
04:17:05PM THE DECISIONS NOT BASED ON ANY OTHER REASON WHETHER IT IS
04:17:08PM THE RIGHT DECISION.
04:17:09PM AND IF IT IS THE RIGHT DECISION TOMORROW, IT IS THE SAME
04:17:14PM RIGHT DECISION TODAY.
04:17:15PM AND WHILE I APPRECIATE SOMEBODY'S OWN INDIVIDUAL PRINCIPLES,
04:17:21PM I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, WOULD LOOK AT SOMEBODY AND SAY,
04:17:24PM YOU KNOW WHAT, I WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T
04:17:27PM WANT TO SAY IS IT RIGHT WRONG.
04:17:30PM IS THIS THE APPROPRIATE COMPENSATION FOR THE WORK THAT IS
04:17:33PM BEING PERFORMED FOR THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA?
04:17:36PM IF IT IS THE APPROPRIATE COMPENSATION FOR THE WORK -- FOR --
04:17:39PM THAT IS BEING PERFORMED, THEN LET'S -- LET'S SAY THEN, HELL
04:17:45PM YEAH, LET'S DO IT.
04:17:46PM IF YOU CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT SAYS, NO, THE EXISTING
04:17:51PM COMPENSATION IS THE RIGHT COMPENSATION FOR THE WORK, THEN
04:17:54PM LET'S GO WITH THAT.
04:17:55PM I THINK THAT IS THE DISCUSSION TO BE MADE.
04:17:56PM WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE COMPENSATION FOR THE ACTUAL WORK
04:17:59PM THAT IS BEING INFORMED.
04:18:00PM I ALSO THINK STATISTICS -- I DON'T LIKE TO DO -- I DON'T
04:18:07PM LIKE TO -- GRAB AT SOMETHING IMAGINARY.
04:18:10PM THERE WAS A STUDY DONE BY THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
04:18:13PM IT IS CONCRETE.
04:18:14PM IT IS FACTUAL, IT IS STATISTICS.
04:18:17PM I WILL ACTUALLY DISAGREE WITH THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
04:18:22PM I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RO COMPROMISE WITH THAT.
04:18:24PM I THINK WE SHOULD ACCEPT THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
04:18:27PM GO FORWARD WITH THAT.
04:18:28PM ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, THERE IS AN EMPTY CHAIR TO MY RIGHT.
04:18:34PM THING IS OF A SUBSTANTIVE CONVERSATION.
04:18:37PM AND I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO NOT MAKE THIS DECISION WITHOUT
04:18:42PM EVERYONE PRESENT.
04:18:43PM AND I WILL MOVE TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION TO MARCH 7, 2024
04:18:48PM FOR A COMPLETE COUNCIL.
04:18:49PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
04:18:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAVE THIS AS THE NUMBER ONE IN OUR OLD
04:18:53PM BUSINESS.
04:18:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
04:18:57PM I HAVEN'T SPOKEN --
04:18:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I WANT YOU TO KNOW I
04:19:04PM HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND TOLD THAT
04:19:08PM MARCH 7 IS QUITE, QUITE FULL.
04:19:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S GREAT.
04:19:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE NEXT NOT FULL DATE.
04:19:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 14 DAYS AFTER THAT.
04:19:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SEE, A FULL DAY IS A 16-HOUR DAY.
04:19:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 2027.
04:19:22PM THEY GET THEIR WAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IN 2027.
04:19:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS ITS CLERK SAYING A 16-HOUR DAY?
04:19:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 28th IS FINE.
04:19:34PM I WILL MOTION CONTINUE TO MARCH 28, BECAUSE IT WILL BE FINE.
04:19:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DO WANT TO HEAR FROM -- I WOULD LIKE TO
04:19:43PM HEAR FROM YOU.
04:19:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO --
04:19:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE 28.
04:19:47PM WHEN YOU SAY NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA, DO YOU MEAN BEFORE
04:19:50PM ALL PUBLIC BUSINESS?
04:19:53PM OF STAFF REPORTS.
04:19:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AFTER ADMINISTRATION?
04:19:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
04:19:58PM I WANT TO MAKE MY COMMENTS.
04:19:59PM I STARTED HERE IN 2015.
04:20:01PM I AM GLAD COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT UP THE SALARY CHART.
04:20:04PM BECAUSE WHEN I STARTED HERE, IT WAS ABOUT $43,000.
04:20:08PM AND MY -- LAST YEAR WAS $52,000, $53,000.
04:20:12PM I HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE OF LET'S SAY $11,000 GRAND OVER
04:20:17PM EIGHT YEARS.
04:20:17PM I HAVE BEEN UP SINCE 1:30 THIS MORNING.
04:20:22PM YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT I WAS DREAM BEING WHEN I WOKE UP?
04:20:25PM I WAS DREAM BEING A BUNCH OF TRASH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD
04:20:28PM AND SOMEBODY SAYING CAN YOU CALL SOLID WASTE TO DO A SPECIAL
04:20:31PM PICKUP.
04:20:32PM THIS IS WHAT I AM DREAMING ABOUT.
04:20:34PM IN MY DREAM, I AM GOING, I GOT TO GET A HOLD OF LISA.
04:20:38PM AND I WAKE UP -- I HAVE BEEN UP SINCE, IN ANTICIPATION FOR
04:20:42PM TODAY'S MEETING.
04:20:43PM SUNDAY MORNINGS, I GO TO CHURCH.
04:20:45PM I GET PHONE CALLS AT 9:00.
04:20:47PM PEOPLE KNOW THAT I GO BECAUSE I SAID IT.
04:20:49PM I GO TO THE EARLY MASS.
04:20:51PM 9:00, THEY CALL ME -- CALL CODE ENFORCEMENT.
04:20:54PM I WILL GET CALLS AT 11:00 AT NIGHT.
04:20:56PM I WILL GET TEXTS.
04:20:58PM HEY, WHAT DO I DO WITH THIS.
04:21:00PM AND MY WIFE TELLS ME, DON'T ANSWER IT.
04:21:03PM BUT I ANSWER, BECAUSE I AM ELECTED TO SERVE.
04:21:06PM I'M NOT PERFECT, BUT I WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE.
04:21:11PM SHE IS LIKE, YOU ARE OFF THE CLOCK.
04:21:13PM PEOPLE WORK 9 TO 5.
04:21:15PM WE WERE HERE ALMOST 4:00 IN THE MORNING.
04:21:20PM I GOT HOME, SLEPT 30 MINUTES.
04:21:22PM TO GET UP AT 6:30 TO STAKE MY YOUNGEST STEPDAUGHTER.
04:21:26PM I WALKED IN, THE SECURITY GUARD WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING
04:21:31PM HERE?
04:21:32PM THE ST. CITIZENS BUDGET BOARD A MEETING.
04:21:34PM MR. SHELBY IS HERE.
04:21:35PM I DON'T KNOW HOW HE DOES IT.
04:21:36PM I SERVE ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
04:21:38PM I SERVE ON THE CRA LIKE WE ALL DO.
04:21:41PM THE TAMPA THEATER BOARD, THE STRAZ BOARD.
04:21:44PM I HAVE BEEN ON THE TPO FOR NINE YEARS.
04:21:47PM I HAVE BEEN ON THE MUSEUM OF ART.
04:21:48PM SO MANY BOARDS.
04:21:50PM I WISH I COULD SERVE ON MORE BOARDS BECAUSE I LOVE THIS JOB.
04:21:53PM THIS IS NOT A PART-TIME JOB.
04:21:55PM SOME PEOPLE HAVE APPROACHED MY MOTHER AND SAY YOUR SON ONLY
04:21:59PM WORKS ON THURSDAYS.
04:22:00PM YOU NEVER SEE MY SON, BECAUSE MY SON, SHE SAYS IS SOMEWHERE.
04:22:04PM THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS.
04:22:06PM THEN MEETINGS AFTER WORK.
04:22:08PM THEN THERE ARE EVENTS -- THE EVENTS ARE THE GOOD PART, BUT
04:22:11PM OTHER THAN THAT, IT WILL A LOT OF WORK.
04:22:13PM I VOTED AGAINST SALARY INCREASES SINCE THE BEGINNING.
04:22:17PM I HAVE BEEN CRITICIZED FOR IT.
04:22:19PM I HAVE BEEN PRAISED FOR IT.
04:22:20PM WHATEVER.
04:22:21PM I HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH MY WIFE ABOUT IT.
04:22:24PM ONE THING THAT DID -- THAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT UP,
04:22:30PM 2008 AND 2014.
04:22:31PM THERE WAS RECESSION AND WE LAID OFF A LOT OF PEOPLE AND
04:22:34PM MAYOR IORIO AND I GIVE HER CREDIT.
04:22:37PM SHE DID A GREAT JOB.
04:22:39PM SHE MADE A LOT OF TOUGH DECISIONS.
04:22:41PM THERE WAS A GAP OF SIX YEARS OF THE SALARY THAT WASN'T
04:22:45PM INCREASED.
04:22:46PM PERHAPS WE COULD LOOK -- IF WE HAVE WOULD HAVE STAYED ON THE
04:22:50PM INCREASE FROM 2007 AND FACTOR IN FROM 2014,
04:23:00PM MAYBE WE WILL BE AT 60,000.
04:23:02PM I SAID WHEN I STARTED HERE IT WAS 4 3,000 AND NOW OVER
04:23:07PM 50,000.
04:23:07PM A MORE REASONABLE BALANCE.
04:23:09PM WE APPROVED SALARY INCREASES FOR THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
04:23:14PM INDIVIDUALS, THE DIFFERENT UNIONS, THOUGH THEIR JOB IS IN A
04:23:18PM TOTALLY DIFFERENT CAPACITY.
04:23:19PM I DON'T COMPARE EVERYTHING I DO TO PUBLIC SAFETY OR ATU
04:23:23PM BECAUSE THEY WORK 100 TIMES HARDER AND TOTALLY DIFFERENT,
04:23:26PM YOU KNOW, SACRIFICE.
04:23:28PM I WOULD BE OPEN TO THE DISCUSSION WHEN WE BRING THIS BACK AT
04:23:33PM THE END OF MARCH WITH THE FULL COUNCIL.
04:23:34PM I DON'T THINK IT IS RIGHT TO VOTE ON ANYTHING TODAY.
04:23:37PM I WILL BE OPEN TO THE DISCUSSION OF THESE SALARIES KICK IN
04:23:41PM THE NEXT CYCLE.
04:23:42PM AND AFTER THE 2027 FOLKS, SO.
04:23:47PM IF WE HAD MORE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO RUN, THEY CAN SAY, HEY,
04:23:50PM WE CAN MAKE THIS MUCH MONEY.
04:23:51PM I DON'T KNOW IF I AM READY TO START A SALARY INCREASE IN
04:23:57PM MAY, I LIVE WITHIN WHAT I MAKE.
04:23:59PM I AM FINE WITH IT.
04:24:00PM I KNOW WHAT I SIGNED UP WITH.
04:24:02PM I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAN'T DO THIS BALLS
04:24:06PM THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.
04:24:07PM GOOD PEOPLE OUT THERE -- A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE IN THE
04:24:10PM COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO RUN.
04:24:11PM I AM NOT COMMITTING YES OR NO, BUT I AM OPEN TO DIFFERENT
04:24:14PM IDEAS THAT WE HAVE.
04:24:16PM I KNOW WE ARE LOOKING AT 3%.
04:24:18PM STANDARD COST OF LIVING INCREASE.
04:24:20PM BUT THAT'S IT.
04:24:21PM I AM NOT GOING TO GO INTO -- YOU KNOW, PHILOSOPHICAL THINGS,
04:24:27PM THIS AND THAT.
04:24:27PM LOOKING A THIS REALISTICALLY, AND KEEP ON OPEN MIND IN THE
04:24:32PM DISCUSSION FOR MARCH 28.
04:24:33PM AND I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
04:24:35PM MR. ROGERO IS STANDING BY AS OUR CFO.
04:24:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HI, DENNIS.
04:24:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:24:42PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:24:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO STRESS SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMEMBERS
04:24:47PM HAVE SAID, THE GREAT AMOUNT OF WORK THAT GOES INTO THIS JOB.
04:24:50PM I WAS A FULL-TIME LAWYER FOR 13 YEARS AND DECIDED TO RUN FOR
04:24:54PM OFFICE.
04:24:54PM AND, YOU KNOW, IT IS A HARD BALANCE.
04:24:57PM I WILL SAY -- AND NOW ON COUNCIL, I AM A PART-TIME LAWYER.
04:25:01PM I CUT BACK MY PRACTICE 50%.
04:25:03PM THAT IS ALWAYS DIFFICULT.
04:25:05PM BUT PROBABLY THE ONE THAT HAS IT THE TOUGHEST I WOULD
04:25:09PM PROBABLY SAY -- MAYBE I AM WRONG -- IS COUNCILWOMAN
04:25:12PM HENDERSON WHO IS A TEACHER.
04:25:13PM THAT -- THAT IS -- MY -- MY HAT IS OFF TO YOU FOR THAT
04:25:17PM BALANCE THAT YOU HAVE.
04:25:18PM AND EVERYTHING.
04:25:19PM SO, AGAIN, SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID AND I
04:25:24PM WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT IS MY POSITION.
04:25:25PM AFTER '27.
04:25:28PM IF THE GOAL IS, RIGHT, TO ATTRACT MORE PEOPLE, THEN, YOU
04:25:31PM KNOW, I SUPPORT IT AFTER '27.
04:25:33PM SOME LEVEL.
04:25:34PM SO THAT'S ALL.
04:25:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
04:25:39PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:25:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DISAGREE.
04:25:42PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE TO THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE.
04:25:47PM THAT WAS THE EXCUSE NOT TO THE DECIDE ON THE $75,000 SALARY.
04:25:51PM IT WAS POLITICIZED AND YOU DIDN'T WANT TO VOTE FOR IT.
04:25:55PM YOU VOTED 4-3.
04:25:57PM BOTTOM LINE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW
04:26:01PM ABOUT THIS JOB THAT I JUST WANT TO SAY PUBLICLY IS THAT EVEN
04:26:04PM WHEN YOU ARE INVITED PLACES, ESPECIALLY TO HOTELS, YOU HAVE
04:26:07PM TO PAY $30 TO PARK.
04:26:08PM EVERY ORGANIZATION -- NOT EVERY ORIGINAL, BUT NINE TIMES OUT
04:26:13PM OF TEN, ORGANIZATIONS ALSO ARE ASKING YOU TO SUPPORT THEIR
04:26:17PM ORGANIZATION FINANCIALLY.
04:26:18PM THEY THINK THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE MONEY IN OUR BUDGET.
04:26:22PM I DON'T KNOW WHY, BUT THAT IS THE CASE.
04:26:24PM I GET SO MANY FINANCIAL REQUESTS FROM ORGANIZATIONS AND
04:26:33PM INDIVIDUALS ASKING ME TO SUPPORT THINGS.
04:26:34PM TODAY I WENT TO LOOK AT IT FROM TAX PURPOSES, I HAVE GIVEN
04:26:38PM OUT ABOUT $4,000, BASED ON THINGS I WAS INVITED TO AS THE
04:26:43PM COUNCILWOMAN.
04:26:44PM I RAISED MY PADDLE AND DONATED FUNDS.
04:26:46PM WE ARE EVEN ASKED -- I WAS WITH SOME COUNCILMEMBERS.
04:26:51PM THEY SAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
04:26:53PM OUR PRESENCE IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT.
04:26:55PM THAT MAY BE TRUE BUT I BELIEVE THAT I SHOULD SUPPORT THEM.
04:27:00PM I PAY FOR PARKING.
04:27:01PM I HAVE TO FIND SOMETHING TO WHERE AND FIGURE IT OUT.
04:27:04PM A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS FACTOR INTO THIS.
04:27:07PM WE CAN'T BE AFRAID TO GIVE OURSELVES A RAISE.
04:27:11PM THE FLORIDA STATE REPRESENTATIVES.
04:27:13PM YOU KNOW WHY THEY STAY AT $25,000 A YEAR.
04:27:15PM ONE OF THE PRIMARY REASONS THEY DO IT THEY WANT TO KEEP IT
04:27:19PM PIGEONHOLED THAT ONLY THE RICH CAN SERVE IN OUR THERE IS
04:27:26PM HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
04:27:27PM IF YOU ARE MAKING $25,000 A YEAR, TRAVELING BACK AND FORTH
04:27:31PM TO -- TO THE GREAT CITY OF TALLAHASSEE, A HUGE SACRIFICE.
04:27:37PM AND THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT I KNOW.
04:27:39PM I ASKED THEM.
04:27:39PM THEY ARE IN LAW.
04:27:41PM THEY PRACTICE.
04:27:42PM THEY ONLY HAVE BEEN REDUCED TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BILLABLE
04:27:47PM HOURS BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE JOB.
04:27:49PM A HUGE PUBLIC SERVICE SACRIFICE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE.
04:27:55PM THE QUALITY WORK -- YOU HEARD US SAY WE READ YOUR E-MAILS,
04:28:01PM PREPARE WITH STAFF AND GO TO THE MEETINGS.
04:28:02PM WE PARTICIPATE WITH THE PUBLIC AND GO TO THESE EVENTS.
04:28:05PM THE STUDY OF $75,000 IS REALLY -- WHAT WE ARE PAYING YOU,
04:28:09PM YOU ARE ACTUALLY BEHIND.
04:28:10PM ASKING FOR THE RAISE RIGHT NOW IS JUST BRINGING YOU TO THE
04:28:14PM PRESENT.
04:28:14PM YOU CAN'T BE AFRAID TO DO THAT.
04:28:16PM NO ONE IS GOING TO HOLD -- I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE
04:28:20PM PUBLIC, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE AFRAID TO TAKE THAT
04:28:24PM STEP.
04:28:24PM I ACTUALLY -- AS AN EDUCATOR, I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO BE IN
04:28:29PM A NEW POSITION WHERE I AM NOT CONNECTED TO A CLASSROOM EVERY
04:28:32PM DAY AND I HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE GRACE TO HAVE THURSDAY WHERE
04:28:36PM IS I AM ABLE TO ATTEND MEETINGS.
04:28:38PM BUT IT WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT A
04:28:41PM DIFFERENT SCHEDULE -- I DON'T KNOW YOU CAN RECALL THAT.
04:28:44PM I CAN'T DO THAT.
04:28:45PM BECAUSE MY JOB HAS ALREADY GIVEN ME THE SACRIFICE OF HAVING
04:28:48PM THE FLEXIBLE SCHEDULE FOR THURSDAYS.
04:28:51PM I ACTUALLY LOVE BEING ON COUNCIL.
04:28:53PM AND I DO BRING A FRESH PERSPECTIVE.
04:28:55PM I AM A DIFFERENT VOICE.
04:28:56PM I RECOGNIZE THAT.
04:28:57PM AND SO BRINGING THE SALARY UP TO DATE -- IT IS JUST NOTHING
04:29:01PM WRONG WITH THAT.
04:29:02PM JUST NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
04:29:05PM A REASON THERE ARE ONLY 16 WOMEN ON COUNCIL.
04:29:08PM NUMBER 16.
04:29:08PM I AM NUMBER 16.
04:29:09PM THERE IS A REASON BEHIND THAT.
04:29:11PM THERE IS A REASON WHY YOU MAY NOT SEE THE DIVERSITY IN NOT
04:29:14PM JUST -- NOT JUST IN AGE BUT IN -- IN -- IN A VARIETY OF
04:29:18PM WAYS.
04:29:19PM ECONOMIC BACK GROUND.
04:29:21PM ALL OF US I THINK HAS A COLLEGE DEGREE.
04:29:25PM THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY A REQUIREMENT FOR COUNCIL, BUT WE
04:29:28PM ARE PROFESSIONALS IN OUR OWN RIGHT.
04:29:30PM AND EVEN JUST THAT ALONE.
04:29:34PM THE FACT THAT WE ARE COLLEGE EDUCATED DEFINITELY LET US KNOW
04:29:39PM THAT WE ARE BEHIND THE MARK WHEN IT COMES TO THE SALARY.
04:29:42PM I DO LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE CONVERSATION.
04:29:45PM AND I APPRECIATE US BEING VERY TRANSPARENT AND SPEAKING IN
04:29:49PM FRONT OF THE CAMERA SO THE PUBLIC HEARS WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY.
04:29:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, YOU HAVE A
04:29:55PM QUESTION FOR MR. ROGERO?
04:29:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. ROGERO, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
04:29:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE A QUESTION THAT NEEDED AN ANSWER.
04:30:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO TALK TO YOU BECAUSE
04:30:03PM YOU TOOK THE TIME OUT TO BE HERE TODAY.
04:30:06PM I HOPE YOU ARE DOING WELL.
04:30:07PM QUESTION FOR YOU.
04:30:08PM IF THIS COUNCIL ON -- WHAT DO WE SAY MARCH 28 --
04:30:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: APOLOGIZE.
04:30:14PM I CAN HEAR YOU.
04:30:15PM I COULDN'T GET OFF MUTE.
04:30:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF THIS COUNCIL ON MARCH 28 ELECTED TO
04:30:20PM IMPLEMENT THE CHIEF OF STAFF'S PROPOSAL THAT HE HAD BROUGHT
04:30:24PM FORTH BEFORE.
04:30:26PM WOULD THE CURRENT BUDGET ACCOMMODATE THAT?
04:30:33PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: JUST TO CLARIFY, THE -- IS THAT THE $75,000
04:30:38PM SALARY?
04:30:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 15% EARLIER AND ASKED THEM TO CALCULATE
04:30:43PM THAT.
04:30:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I STILL GO WITH THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A
04:30:48PM STATISTICAL ANALYSIS PREPARED BY AN INDEPENDENT PARTY, AND I
04:30:52PM THINK THAT -- THAT IS A HARD DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN GO WITH.
04:30:54PM THAT JUST MAKES SENSE TO ME.
04:30:59PM THAT IS A CEILING.
04:31:00PM IF THAT PROPOSAL -- THAT IS THE BEST OR WORST-CASE SCENARIO.
04:31:05PM IF THAT WAS TO PASS THIS COUNCIL, WOULD THE CITY -- THE 2024
04:31:09PM FISCAL YEAR BUDGET ACCOMMODATE THAT?
04:31:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THEY, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT.
04:31:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: APPRECIATE IT.
04:31:17PM HOPE YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WEEKEND.
04:31:18PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
04:31:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I ASKED HIM A SIMILAR QUESTION.
04:31:21PM SO HE ANSWERED IT BASED ON -- YES.
04:31:24PM JUST BASED ON COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN'S QUESTION, HE ANSWERED
04:31:30PM IT FOR ME AS WELL.
04:31:31PM BECAUSE MY MOUTH WAS LOWER.
04:31:33PM THANK YOU.
04:31:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:31:36PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A $100,000 SALARY, THE BUDGET.
04:31:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM BUYING DRINKS TONIGHT.
04:31:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO KNOW.
04:31:48PM YOU WOKE UP THE MIND.
04:31:50PM WILL IT ACCOMMODATE AT $100,000 SALARY?
04:31:55PM THE ANSWER WILL BE LEFT.
04:31:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. ROGERO.
04:31:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APOLOGIZE.
04:32:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WOULD THE BUDGET ACCOMMODATE A $100,000
04:32:07PM SALARY?
04:32:08PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
04:32:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
04:32:10PM IF NOT, REVISIT THIS MARCH 28 UNDER STAFF REPORT.
04:32:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE MOTION.
04:32:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:32:18PM OPPOSE?
04:32:19PM SO THIS IS A DISCUSSION.
04:32:20PM NO FORMAL ACTION.
04:32:23PM DISCUSSION ON MARCH 28 WITH A FULL COUNCIL.
04:32:25PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:32:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:32:27PM I BELIEVE PART OF THAT MOTION WAS TO HAVE THIS FIRST UNDER
04:32:30PM STAFF REPORTS.
04:32:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: RIGHT UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE --
04:32:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY QUESTION TO YOU --
04:32:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
04:32:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: -- IS HOW MUCH TIME YOU ANTICIPATE PUTTING
04:32:40PM TOWARD THAT.
04:32:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 30 MINUTES.
04:32:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO MORE THAN --
04:32:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HEARD WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT.
04:32:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL --
04:32:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO OPPONENTS, MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:32:53PM PEOPLE WHO WILL ARE MORE REALISTIC THAN OTHERS.
04:32:55PM HOWEVER, LET ME SAY THIS.
04:32:57PM IF ANYTHING -- THE ONLY ONE THAT IS GOING TO HELP HERE IS
04:33:00PM ME.
04:33:01PM BECAUSE YOUR RETIREMENT IS BASED ON YOUR SALARY FOR THE LAST
04:33:05PM TV YEARS TIMES ONE AND A HALF.
04:33:06PM SO THERE IS NO -- JUST -- LET ME JUST SAY THAT FOR THE
04:33:11PM RECORD.
04:33:11PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:33:12PM YOU ALL HAVE A MILES TO DAY.
04:33:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
04:33:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
04:33:18PM THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
04:33:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
04:33:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT I HAVE -- I HAVE A MEMO FROM A MR.
04:33:25PM MARTIN SHELBY.
04:33:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
04:33:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THIS IS REGARDING UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
04:33:33PM YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADDED THIS ITEM TO THE MARCH 28 AGENDA, IS
04:33:37PM THAT CORRECT?
04:33:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT PREPARED A MOTION
04:33:39PM IF SOMEBODY IS WILLING TO READ THAT.
04:33:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:33:43PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON -- MAKE THE
04:33:46PM MOTION.
04:33:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL RIGHT.
04:33:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL DO IT --
04:33:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO ADD TO THE MARCH 28, 2024 CITY
04:33:56PM COUNCIL RECOGNIZE EXCEPTION AGENDA UNDER STAFF REPORTS AND
04:33:58PM UNFINISHED BUSINESS PURSUANT TO ORDINANCE NUMBER 2023-167.
04:34:05PM CONSIDERATION OF THE REQUEST MADE BY FORMER CITY COUNCIL
04:34:09PM ORLANDO GUDES FOR REIMBURSEMENT OF ATTORNEYS FEES AND COSTS
04:34:13PM ASSOCIATED WITH THE LAWSUIT CAPTIONED "LS THROUGH HER
04:34:16PM PARENTS, SH AND SH VERSUS ORLANDO GUDES."
04:34:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
04:34:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
04:34:29PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:34:31PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:34:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE COMPLETED MY FIRST FORM 8-B.
04:34:35PM I AM GOING TO ABSTAIN OVER THE APPEARANCE OF A SPECIFIC
04:34:40PM CONFLICT WHERE A RELATIVE IS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CASE.
04:34:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM
04:34:47PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:34:48PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:34:50PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:34:51PM SO NOW WE VOTE ON BRINGING THIS BACK TO MARCH 28.
04:34:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND I GET TO LEAVE.
04:34:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE.
04:35:00PM IT WILL ONLY TAKE A MINUTE -- A SECOND.
04:35:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN
04:35:05PM HURTAK.
04:35:05PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:35:07PM YES, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:35:09PM >>LUIS VIERA: REMEMBER MARCH 28 IF WE HAVE ONE
04:35:13PM COUNCILMEMBER, I WILL HAVE TO MISS PART OF THE MORNING
04:35:15PM COUNCIL THAT DAY.
04:35:15PM IT WILL BE STAFF REPORTS?
04:35:17PM I SAY THAT JUST IN CASE.
04:35:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:35:21PM OPPOSED?
04:35:22PM ALL RIGHT, THAT CONCLUDES EVERYTHING.
04:35:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE THAT ANNOUNCED.
04:35:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LISA, CAN YOU COME OUT HERE REAL QUICK.
04:35:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE THE CLERK ANNOUNCE THAT VOTE IS WHAT I
04:35:34PM AM ASKING.
04:35:34PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON BEING
04:35:39PM ABSENT AND VOTE.
04:35:40PM AND HENDERSON ABSTAINING.
04:35:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MY AIDE LISA
04:35:49PM REGARDING NEW BUSINESS.
04:35:50PM IF SHE CAN COME UP, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:35:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE MOTION COMMENT A
04:35:57PM COMMENDATION TO -- CHRISTIAN ELEMENTARY -- ACADEMY AND
04:36:02PM LILLIAN HERD, A STUDENT OF ACADEMY OF HOLY NAMES MEDAL
04:36:07PM WINNERS AT THE USAA TAMPA POST NUMBER 5, AMERICAN LEGION
04:36:13PM AND ORATORIAL.
04:36:15PM THERE OF THE APPRECIATION AND VALUELESS OUTLINES OF THE
04:36:20PM CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THEIR AWARENESS OF THE
04:36:22PM RESPONSIBILITY INCUMBENT ON EACH CITIZEN TO EXERCISE AND
04:36:25PM PROTECT THESE RIGHTS.
04:36:26PM IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TWO
04:36:30PM COMMENDATIONS TO THE AMERICAN HERITAGE GIRLS, ABBY COBALSKI
04:36:35PM AND CHARLOTTE LAURIA WHO OWNED THEIR GOVERNMENT CITIZENSHIP
04:36:42PM BADGES FOR CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY.
04:36:44PM I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THESE COMMENDATIONS OF THE OWNING
04:36:48PM MARCH 28, 5:01 IF POSSIBLE.
04:36:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
04:36:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:36:55PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:37:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:37:04PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:37:06PM YOU HAVE A LIST.
04:37:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAD SOMETHING OF ONGOING TALKS WITH THE HIVE
04:37:12PM PROJECT.
04:37:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
04:37:15PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:37:17PM REMOVE THE ITEM OF DISABILITY HOUSING ON FEBRUARY 22.
04:37:20PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:37:21PM OPPOSED?
04:37:23PM YES, SIR.
04:37:23PM >>LUIS VIERA: QUICKLY IF I MAY, MANY OF US KNOW THE
04:37:28PM BOONSTOPPLE FAMILY.
04:37:28PM THE LATE, HARRISON, KILLED IN YBOR CITY.
04:37:31PM AND I -- BEFORE THAT TERRIBLE TRAGEDY, I HAD COME INTO
04:37:37PM CONTACT WITH THE FAMILY.
04:37:38PM I HAD SPOKE AT THE LATE HARRISON'S GRADUATION AT PEPIN
04:37:43PM ACADEMY WHERE HE WAS A VERY, VERY PROUD GRADUATE GOD REST
04:37:49PM HIS SOUL.
04:37:50PM I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THE PARENT OF SOME IDEAS HOW TO
04:37:53PM COMMEMORATE THEIR LATE SON WHO WAS JUST AN AMAZING YOUNG
04:37:59PM MAN.
04:37:59PM AS A FATHER, THE -- THE WORK THAT IT TOOK INTO THAT YOUNG
04:38:05PM MAN WITH HIS CHALLENGES.
04:38:06PM WON'T GO INTO IT.
04:38:09PM BUT THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES" DID A PROFILE ON HIM.
04:38:12PM HE HAD SPECIAL NEEDS.
04:38:14PM AND EVERYTHING THOSE PARENTS AND FAMILY HAD WENT INTO.
04:38:17PM IN NEW TAMPA, WE HAVE OUR ALL ABILITIES WORK IN NEW TAMPA
04:38:22PM WHICH IS NOT NAMED.
04:38:23PM AND I WANT TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION FOR CONSIDERATION OF
04:38:28PM RENAMING THAT PARK -- OR NAMING THAT PARK AFTER THE LATE
04:38:32PM HARRISON.
04:38:33PM WE CAN HAVE THAT COME BACK IN TIME TO GIVE -- I SEE MR.
04:38:38PM MASSEY STANDING UP.
04:38:39PM THERE MAY BE SOME --
04:38:40PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS A MOTION TO KIND OF
04:38:44PM PUT A HIATUS ON RENAMING THING UNTIL WE HAVE A DISCUSSION OF
04:38:48PM THE RENAMING PROCESS.
04:38:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.
04:38:53PM WHEN WILL THAT COME BACK US TO?
04:38:54PM I REMEMBER THAT WHEN COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON --
04:38:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO DO THAT ONE.
04:39:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU WANT TO TALK TO THE FAMILIES, ETC., ON
04:39:04PM THAT ISSUE.
04:39:06PM SO, YEAH, WHEN DOES THAT COME BACK , IF YOU KNOW MR. MASSEY
04:39:10PM OR MR. SHELBY?
04:39:12PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE CLERK MAY KNOW.
04:39:14PM I AM THINKING APRIL OR SOME TIME.
04:39:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THIS.
04:39:17PM I WILL HAVE THAT COME BACK TO US IN JUNE AFTER WE DEDICATE
04:39:20PM -- DEAL WITH THAT.
04:39:21PM IF WE HAVE TO DELAY IT MORE SO WE CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION,
04:39:25PM THAT IS FINE.
04:39:25PM IT IS JUST FOR CONSIDERATION.
04:39:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:39:30PM REPRESENTS ME LOOK AT THE JUNE DATES HERE.
04:39:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM LOOKING FOR ALL OF THEM, BUT I SEE
04:39:40PM STAFF REPORTS INCLUDING NAMING OF SEVERAL PROPERTIES ON THE
04:39:46PM APRIL 4 STAFF REPORTS.
04:39:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE ARE LOOKING AFTER APRIL.
04:39:50PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THOSE WERE CONTINUED BECAUSE A WHOLE NAMING
04:39:54PM DISCUSSION.
04:39:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT IT TO BE JUNE 6.
04:39:57PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: FOR SOME REASON, THE APRIL WORKSHOP WAS
04:40:00PM SCHEDULED FOR THE DISCUSSION OF THE NAMING ISSUE.
04:40:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I SPEAK TO THAT.
04:40:03PM HONESTLY COUNCILMAN, CAN WE ASK THAT YOU NOT MAKE THAT
04:40:07PM MOTION TODAY AND BRING IT BACK TO US AFTER THE APRIL
04:40:10PM DISCUSSION.
04:40:10PM I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
04:40:12PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL BE HONEST WITH YOU, AND I WILL
04:40:15PM APPRECIATE THAT.
04:40:15PM WE CAN PUT A PIN IN IT IN TERMS OF WAITING FOR THE APRIL
04:40:19PM ONE.
04:40:19PM JUST IN FULL TRANSPARENCY, I PROMISED THE FAMILY THAT I WILL
04:40:23PM MAKE THE MOTION TODAY.
04:40:24PM SO I WOULDN'T WANT THAT.
04:40:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE DID REACH AN
04:40:28PM APRIL AGREEMENT TO PUT A HOLD ON THIS STUFF.
04:40:30PM AS COUNCIL PROCEDURES, WE ARE PUTTING A HOLD ON THIS STUFF.
04:40:33PM AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IN APRIL.
04:40:36PM MAYBE YOU CAN GO BACK TO THEM SAYING WE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH
04:40:40PM RENAMING.
04:40:40PM SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE -- COUNCIL IS GOING TO MEET IN
04:40:43PM APRIL.
04:40:47PM I PROMISE YOU I WILL BRING IT BACK FROM APRIL.
04:40:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: HOW ABOUT THIS.
04:40:53PM I GAVE THEM MY WORD AND I WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE
04:40:58PM DECISION AT THE APRIL MEETING.
04:40:59PM AGAIN IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES MORE TIME, GLAD TO
04:41:03PM MAKE THAT.
04:41:03PM I WANT TO PUNT THAT OUT TO THE FAMILY.
04:41:06PM A PROMISE I MADE THEM.
04:41:07PM AND I WANT TO GO THROUGH WITH IT.
04:41:10PM MY INTENT IF COUNCIL CHANGES ANY PROCEDURES IN APRIL, THEN I
04:41:13PM CAN AMEND THE MOTION.
04:41:14PM YOU HAVE MY WORD WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH IT.
04:41:17PM BUT, FOR ME, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR THE FAMILY
04:41:22PM FOR A WHILE, I WANT TO BE TRUE TO MY WORD FOR THEM.
04:41:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND I AM GOING TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN
04:41:28PM CLENDENIN SAID.
04:41:29PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR NEW RULES ARE GOING TO BE.
04:41:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW.
04:41:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I FEEL FOR THE FAMILY.
04:41:36PM WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR THIS ISSUE TO BECOME THE -- THE
04:41:41PM THING THAT -- I DON'T WANT THIS RENAMING TO BE THE ONE THAT
04:41:45PM KIND OF HAS TO GO THROUGH THE WRINGER, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN,
04:41:49PM BE CAUGHT.
04:41:49PM I WOULD PREFER US TO HAVE THE RULES WE WANT.
04:41:52PM AND THEN HAVE THAT BE THE FIRST ONE THAT FOLLOWS THE RULES.
04:41:56PM I JUST -- I DON'T WANT THEM TO GET MOVED AND MOVED AND
04:41:59PM MOVED.
04:42:00PM AND THEN -- AND THE FAMILY FEELS DISRESPECTED.
04:42:03PM I AM NOT COMFORTABLE.
04:42:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO -- TO
04:42:09PM PROCEED WITH A VOTE THEY FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE IN.
04:42:12PM AGAIN, I GAVE MY WORD TO THE FAMILY FOR THAT.
04:42:15PM I SAID THAT WHEN I PASSED THIS ONE.
04:42:16PM I VOTED FOR THE MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:42:24PM AND I HAD DO HAVE ONE.
04:42:26PM AND IT WILL BE QUINT ONE THAT WE TO IN APRIL.
04:42:29PM IF WE CHANGE THE RULES AND IN APRIL, I WANT THAT TO BE ON
04:42:34PM THE DOCKET, IF YOU WILL, FOR JUNE.
04:42:35PM WE CAN EVEN MAKE IT TO JULY WITH COUNCIL, AUGUST.
04:42:38PM TO GIVE COUNCIL ENOUGH TIME.
04:42:40PM MEAN, I AM EVEN IF WITH MORE TIME.
04:42:43PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: JUST TO CLARIFY.
04:42:45PM MISS ZELMAN JUST QUESTIONED ME, MAY 25 IS THE WORKSHOP THAT
04:42:49PM WE WILL TALK OF THE NAMING.
04:42:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: 23rd.
04:42:52PM IF I MAY, HERE IS WHAT THE MOTION SAYS.
04:42:55PM COUNCIL TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS THE PROCESS FOR HONORING
04:42:59PM NAMING OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY SET FORTH IN THE NAMING
04:43:02PM ORDINANCE.
04:43:03PM FURTHER, THAT COUNCIL SUSPENDS ANY CONSIDERATION OF
04:43:06PM CITY-OWNED LAND AND REQUEST THE MAYOR TO DO THE SAME UNTIL
04:43:09PM THE DISCUSSION TAKES PLACE.
04:43:10PM >>LUIS VIERA: I INTERPRET THAT THAT COUNCIL MAY NOT FINALIZE
04:43:14PM ANY RENAMING DURING THAT TIME.
04:43:15PM I DON'T INTERPRET THAT AS SAYING WE CAN'T HAVE A PLACEHOLDER
04:43:19PM FORK.
04:43:20PM THIS DOES NOT RENAME.
04:43:21PM THIS MERELY HAS CONSIDERATION IN THE FUTURE.
04:43:24PM AGAIN, I AM GLAD IF THIS IS IN MAY.
04:43:26PM I AM GLAD TO HAVE IT THE FIRST WEEK IN SEPTEMBER.
04:43:29PM AND IF WE DO SOMETHING, THEN I CAN AMEND IT AT THAT TIME,
04:43:33PM MERELY AS A PLACEHOLDER.
04:43:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FAIR ENOUGH.
04:43:36PM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA -- THIS WILL BE FOR
04:43:39PM SEPTEMBER, BUT YOU WOULD BE AMENABLE TO MODIFYING IT
04:43:44PM CONSIDERING -- YOU ARE NOT FINALIZING IT.
04:43:46PM YOU ARE PUTTING A EARMARK.
04:43:48PM PLACEHOLDER.
04:43:49PM A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:43:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DON'T HAVE THE CALENDAR --
04:44:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: WHAT IS THE LATEST OF THOSE TWO.
04:44:03PM AUGUST.
04:44:04PM WITH THE INTENT TO PUSH IT OUT.
04:44:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JULY 18.
04:44:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
04:44:12PM IT WILL BE ON MY MIND IN MAY.
04:44:14PM AND THEN I CAN AMEND MY MOTION AT THAT TIME.
04:44:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:44:18PM SECOND FROM --
04:44:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION.
04:44:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SAUL IN FAVOR.
04:44:25PM ANY OPPOSED?
04:44:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NAY.
04:44:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NAY.
04:44:32PM MAKES ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE --
04:44:36PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HENDERSON AND HURTAK VOTE
04:44:40PM NOTHING.
04:44:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND CLENDENIN.
04:44:42PM >>CLERK: 3-3 TIE.
04:44:47PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL BRING IT UP NEXT WEEK.
04:44:49PM >>CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH HENDERSON, HURTAK AND CLENDENIN
04:44:56PM VOTING NO.
04:44:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE?
04:45:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: TWO MORE.
04:45:01PM I WAS APPROACHED -- I CAN'T HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS
04:45:05PM PRIVATELY, BUT FOR ITS WEST TAMPA LITTLE LEAGUE MONUMENT
04:45:09PM ONLY THE CITY DOING IMPROVEMENTS.
04:45:11PM THIS IS ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS YOU HAVE TO DO IN PUBLIC THAT
04:45:14PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA REPRESENTS THAT AREA AND AS THE MAYOR OF
04:45:17PM WEST TAMPA AND THE MAYOR OF BASEBALL --
04:45:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITS MAYOR OF BASEBALL.
04:45:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DID YOU WANT TO MAKE THAT
04:45:28PM MOTION.
04:45:28PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU CAN.
04:45:29PM I WILL SECOND IT.
04:45:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE TO HAVE THE WEST TAMPA LITTLE LEAGUE
04:45:32PM MONUMENT RESTORED AND HAVE A REPORT BACK TO US ON THE
04:45:35PM FEASIBILITY OF THAT.
04:45:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
04:45:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: IN -- WHERE ARE WE IN -- FEBRUARY, IN THE
04:45:41PM FIRST WEEK OF MAY.
04:45:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS AN EASY YES.
04:45:46PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECONDED BY MR. MIRANDA.
04:45:48PM LET'S VOTES.
04:45:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: IS IT REALLY --
04:45:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY 2.
04:45:54PM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
04:45:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION OF COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:45:57PM WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:45:59PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:46:00PM OPPOSE?
04:46:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: LASTLY, THIS IS NOT A MOTION, PER SE.
04:46:04PM I WENT ON WFLA.
04:46:06PM IT WAS A BLACK HISTORY INTERVIEW.
04:46:08PM AND I WAS ASKED A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS ON THAT PROGRAM THAT
04:46:12PM WILL BE AIRING -- I GUESS IT WAS ON SATURDAY.
04:46:15PM AND I WAS ASKED ABOUT THE RACIAL RECONCILIATION COMMITTEE.
04:46:18PM AND I GAVE AN ANSWER TO IT WHICH WAS I SUPPORT IT.
04:46:21PM SO YOU KNOW, I DO THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GOING TO
04:46:26PM HAVE TO DISCUSS, COUNCIL.
04:46:27PM AND I KNOW MEMBERS HAVE SPOKEN OUT ON THAT.
04:46:30PM AND I RESPECT EVERYONE ELSE OPINION.
04:46:32PM I DON'T THINK ANYONE OPPOSES THE IDEA OF A COMMITTEE.
04:46:35PM I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WANT MORE DEFINITION ON.
04:46:38PM AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON
04:46:41PM THIS DURING MOTION TIME.
04:46:42PM YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHTS, VERY BRIEFLY, ARE THAT WE SHOULD --
04:46:46PM AND I SAID THIS IN THE INTERVIEW, WE SHOULD HAVE SPECIFIC
04:46:51PM ISSUES THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED BY COMMITTEE MEMBERS.
04:46:53PM THINGS LIKE -- I WROTE DOWN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RETURNING
04:47:00PM CITIZENS, HISTORICAL, AND IF WE HIGHLIGHT THE ISSUES THAT
04:47:07PM THIS COMMITTEE WITH -- WITH FOLKS APPOINTED BY MAYOR CASTOR,
04:47:13PM FOLKS APPOINTED BY TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
04:47:17PM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE VERY GOOD WE SHOULD JUMP TO
04:47:20PM FOR A CITY.
04:47:21PM I WAS ASKED IN AN INTERVIEW AND I GAVE MY OPINION.
04:47:23PM AND I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD ON AS A
04:47:28PM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AND I WILL BE DISCUSSING IT WITH THE
04:47:31PM MAYOR'S OFFICE.
04:47:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND COUNCILWOMAN
04:47:34PM HURTAK.
04:47:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WASN'T ON COUNCIL WHEN THAT RESOLUTION
04:47:37PM WAS PASSED.
04:47:38PM IF I READ IT CORRECTLY, IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE
04:47:40PM ADMINISTRATION IS TASKED WITH CREATING, CORRECT IN I THINK
04:47:44PM WE AS -- I MEAN, I AGREE WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA, I THINK
04:47:48PM THAT WE -- IT IS A WORTHY AGENDA.
04:47:51PM I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE ADMINISTRATION TO COMPILE -- TO LIVE
04:47:55PM TO THAT EXPECTATION.
04:47:56PM I WILL ADD JOBS AND SPECIFICALLY YOUTH JOBS TO THAT LIST.
04:48:02PM I THINK THAT IS AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT AS WE MOVE THE CITY OF
04:48:07PM TAMPA FORWARD.
04:48:07PM I SEE THAT OUR ATTORNEY IS STANDING THERE --
04:48:10PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD.
04:48:12PM THAT WAS A CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION.
04:48:13PM THAT WAS NOT INITIATED BY THE ADMINISTRATION.
04:48:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW IT WASN'T ADMINISTERED -- BUT THE
04:48:19PM AMENDMENT REFERRED TO THE ADMINISTRATION AS FAR AS CREATING
04:48:22PM THAT COMMITTEE.
04:48:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION, BUT I HAD MY HAND
04:48:25PM UP BEFORE BUT --
04:48:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SOMEBODY WHO HAS THE ORGANIZATIONAL
04:48:29PM HISTORY DID THAT RESOLUTION.
04:48:31PM DID IT CALL FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO CREATES THE COMMITTEE?
04:48:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GENERAL SUPPORT.
04:48:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN --
04:48:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAIT A SECOND.
04:48:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I ASK MY QUESTION?
04:48:40PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ASK THE CHAIR.
04:48:41PM I JUST WANT TO KNOW TO WHO?
04:48:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO MR. SHELBY OR MR. MASSEY.
04:48:48PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES.
04:48:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHO CREATES COMMISSIONS.
04:48:50PM I THOUGHT WE HAD A HUGE THING ABOUT IT IN THE CHARTER AND
04:48:54PM THAT COUNCIL CANNOT CREATE A COMMISSION.
04:48:57PM WHO CREATES A COMMISSION SO WE CAN FINISH THIS DISCUSSION?
04:49:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO POINTS IF I CAN WITH THAT.
04:49:03PM I AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT RESOLUTION.
04:49:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: 568.
04:49:12PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 2020-568.
04:49:15PM IF ANYBODY WANTS TO FIND IT NEEDS TO FIND IT BY THE STATE.
04:49:18PM THE SECTION QUITE OFTEN REFERENCED BY THE PUBLIC.
04:49:23PM CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTS THE CREATION OF.
04:49:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
04:49:28PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS SPECIFICALLY PURPOSEFUL LANGUAGE,
04:49:32PM BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL DIDN'T HAVE THE BUDGET OR STAFF TO
04:49:34PM DO IT.
04:49:34PM AS COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN LEARNED, THE COUNCILMEMBER WHO
04:49:39PM PROPOSES, THE LEGISLATIVE AIDE IS THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR
04:49:43PM FACILITATE IT UNLESS THE ADMINISTRATION DOES IT.
04:49:46PM BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION HAS THE RESOURCES.
04:49:48PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MAYOR'S POSITION IS.
04:49:50PM COUNCILMAN VIERA STATED HE WAS GOING TO BE IN TOUCH WITH THE
04:49:54PM ADMINISTRATION.
04:49:55PM I DO RECALL SPECIFICALLY AT THE TIME, IT DID NOT
04:49:58PM SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT COUNCIL WILL CREATE THE COMMITTEE.
04:50:00PM IT SAID THAT THEY WILL SUPPORT THE CREATION.
04:50:03PM IT DOESN'T PRECLUDE YOU FROM DOING IT.
04:50:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOULD IT BE IN ORDER FOR THIS COUNCIL TO
04:50:09PM RECONFIRM OUR SUPPORT FOR THE CREATION OF A COMMITTEE?
04:50:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WAIT, AGAIN, THE QUESTION IS WHO CREATES
04:50:22PM COMMITTEE AS SOON AS.
04:50:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DON'T.
04:50:23PM WE CAN'T.
04:50:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I GET CLARIFICATION WHO CAN CREATE A
04:50:26PM COMMITTEE?
04:50:27PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I THINK THE CHARTER PROVIDES THAT CAN BE
04:50:30PM CREATED BY CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION WITH APPROVAL OF THE
04:50:33PM MAYOR.
04:50:33PM REQUIRES BOTH PARTIES TO DO THAT IN THIS CASE.
04:50:36PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD SUGGEST THAW REACH OUT TO THE
04:50:38PM ADMINISTRATION TO SEE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THEY WOULD BE
04:50:41PM WILLING TO DO?
04:50:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:50:43PM ANYTHING ELSE?
04:50:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCIL, LET ME ASK YOU ALL.
04:50:46PM DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE A MOTION AS A FORMAL REQUEST TO THE
04:50:50PM MAYOR --
04:50:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WAIT FOR ALL SEVEN OF US TO BE HERE.
04:50:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID NOT A MOTION.
04:50:57PM >>LUIS VIERA: IT SEEMED TO HAVE SOME SUPPORT.
04:50:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S WAIT FOR A FULL COUNCIL.
04:51:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: TO BE CLEAR, THE ISSUES I TALKED ABOUT -- FOR
04:51:05PM THE RECORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RETURNING ACCIDENTS,
04:51:07PM ECONOMIC, SCHOOL-TO-PRISON PIPELINE, RESTORE, TRUTH TELLING
04:51:12PM AND CIVIC PARTICIPATION.
04:51:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND JOBS -- SPECIFICALLY YOUTH JOBS.
04:51:19PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS UNDER SCHOOL-TO-PRISON.
04:51:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU MADE REFERENCE TO 2020-IT TALKS OF
04:51:31PM CERTAIN THINGS THAT COUNCIL PUT IN WRITING THAT IS DIFFERENT
04:51:34PM -- WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU, THAT MAY BE IN CONFLICT OR IN
04:51:37PM ADDITION TO.
04:51:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. SHELBY.
04:51:39PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
04:51:40PM THAT IS WHY I MADE MY MOTION.
04:51:42PM SO -- STRIKE THAT -- WHY I MADE THE LANGUAGE.
04:51:45PM I APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHTS, BUT I DID THAT FOR A REASON.
04:51:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:51:50PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, DO YOU HAVE NEW BUSINESS?
04:51:53PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS.
04:51:55PM THIS VERY, VERY, VERY TOUGH AND CHALLENGING RESOLUTION.
04:51:58PM ARE WE GOING TO RECKON WITH THE HISTORY OF RACISM.
04:52:03PM IS THE QUESTION -- THIS WAS CONCEPT 2020, 41 MONTHS AGO.
04:52:08PM TOOK UNTIL LAST WEEK -- LAST WEEK BECAME THE VERY FIRST TIME
04:52:12PM THIS COUNCIL ACTUALLY SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT SINCE SIGNING
04:52:16PM THE RESOLUTION 41 MONTHS AGO BECAUSE I DID SAY SOMETHING
04:52:20PM UNDER, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WAS MY TURN -- UNDER NEW BUSINESS,
04:52:25PM IS THIS WHAT THE NEXT PART IS CALLED.
04:52:27PM I WANT YOU TO BE VERY MINDFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT A PIN
04:52:33PM IN IT FOR 41 MONTHS.
04:52:34PM IT IS A VERY, VERY CHALLENGING TOPIC.
04:52:38PM IT REQUIRES A LOT OF EXPERTISE.
04:52:41PM AND SO, A BLANKET COMMITTEE WHERE WE DECIDE ON HOT FOLKS ARE
04:52:48PM GOING TO BE.
04:52:48PM I NEED YOU LIKE TO A LOT OF THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN
04:52:51PM YOU ACTUALLY DECIDE IF WE ARE GOING TO ADOPT A COMMITTEE AND
04:52:54PM HAVE THE MAYOR SIGN OFF ON IT.
04:52:56PM YOU TAKE A LOT OF THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION.
04:52:58PM START DOING YOUR RESEARCH BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS OUT THERE
04:53:03PM ABOUT REPARATION AND RACISM AND HOW WE GO ABOUT HANDLING
04:53:11PM THIS.
04:53:11PM I AM NOT OKAY WITH IT IN TERMS OF HOW WE GO BEEN SANITIZING
04:53:17PM HISTORY AND PUTTING A PIN ON IT AND NAMING OUT A FEW THINGS
04:53:20PM AND THANKSGIVING WE, THIS BODY, HAS THE EXPERTISE TO SOLVE
04:53:25PM THE PROBLEMS OR APPOINT PEOPLE TO SOLVE THOSE APPROXIMATE.
04:53:27PM A VERY COMPLEX SITUATION.
04:53:29PM ON TO NEW BUSINESS, I ACTUALLY WOULD LIKE TO -- JUST A
04:53:33PM COUPLE OF THINGS.
04:53:34PM I WOULD LIKE TO DO ONE OF MY RARE COMMENDATIONS FOR THE
04:53:38PM WOMEN'S HISTORY COMMITTEE.
04:53:40PM I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A COMMENDATION FOR THEM FOR THEIR
04:53:43PM 27th ANNUAL WOMEN HISTORY MONTH CELEBRATION ON MARCH 5.
04:53:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
04:53:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
04:53:49PM RECORD YOUR VOTE.
04:53:51PM WOMAN NO ONE IS OPPOSED TO WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
04:53:55PM THAT IS NEXT MONTH.
04:53:57PM OKAY.
04:53:57PM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RECOGNIZE HERE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
04:54:00PM PUBLIC SCHOOLS THE RESULTS HAVE COME OUT FOR THE STATE OF
04:54:06PM FLORIDA FOR THE BEST HIGH SCHOOLS.
04:54:07PM AND WE HAVE A FEW THAT ARE IN THE TOP 50.
04:54:09PM AND A FEW IN THE TOP 200.
04:54:11PM SO I JUST WANT TO CALL THOSE SCHOOLS OUT AND SAY
04:54:14PM CONGRATULATIONS BECAUSE IT IS ABOUT NOT ONLY YOUR GRADUATION
04:54:17PM RATE, BUT YOUR COLLEGE REGISTRATION.
04:54:20PM PLANT HIGH SCHOOL FOR BEING RANKED 35.
04:54:24PM NEW SOM NUMBER 49.
04:54:26PM AND OTHERS STEINBRENNER, SICKLE, STRAWBERRY CREST, TAMPA BAY
04:54:30PM TECH, ALONSO, BLOOMINGDALE, HILLSBOROUGH, RIVERVIEW,
04:54:35PM MIDDLETON AND LETO.
04:54:37PM SOME PEOPLE WHO NEED TO GET TO WORK.
04:54:41PM AND THEIR COLORS ARE BLUE AND GOLD.
04:54:43PM THAT IS THE OTHER THING.
04:54:44PM LASTLY, THIS WEEKEND, THERE IS A -- THERE IS -- THERE IS AT
04:54:49PM GASPARILLA MUSIC FESTIVAL, AS WELL AS THE BLACK LOVE PLAY AT
04:54:53PM THE TAMPA THEATRE.
04:54:54PM AND THAT IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU, THE COMMUNITY,
04:55:01PM CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IN SUPPORTING.
04:55:02PM OTHER THAN THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:55:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:55:05PM I MADE A MOTION THE OTHER DAY, BUT I DIDN'T CLARIFY THE DATE
04:55:09PM --
04:55:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE CHAIR PRO TEM RECOGNIZES CHAIRMAN
04:55:14PM MANISCALCO.
04:55:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:55:16PM THAT WAS VERY PROFESSIONAL.
04:55:18PM I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND A MOTION.
04:55:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
04:55:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FAVOR.
04:55:31PM OPPOSED?
04:55:32PM AYES HAVE IT.
04:55:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:55:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS THAT IS IT?
04:55:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A VERY HAPPY EARLY BIRTHDAY TO MR.
04:55:41PM MARTIN SHELBY.
04:55:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
04:55:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE NOTHING.
04:55:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:55:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
04:55:49PM I MOTION TO HAVE MOBILITY STAFF SEND A MEMO TO
04:55:53PM COUNCILMEMBERS OUTLINING THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION
04:55:55PM IMPROVEMENT PLAN, BETTER KNOWN AS T.I.P. PRIORITIES BEFORE
04:56:01PM IT IS SENT TO THE TRANSPORTATION ORGANIZATION IN MARCH.
04:56:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
04:56:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AS TRANSPORTATION BECOMES AN ISSUE, I WANT
04:56:13PM ALL OF US TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE WHAT GALLONS ON TO IT.
04:56:16PM SOME OF US SIT ON HART.
04:56:18PM SOME SIT ON MPO.
04:56:20PM LET'S CONTINUE TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
04:56:23PM AND I WAS GOING TO MOTION FOR A VOTE, BUT THIS IS A GOOD
04:56:27PM START AND NEXT YEAR CAN BRING THAT UP.
04:56:30PM THIS MOTION WILL MAKE FURTHER DISCUSSION OF MOBILITY
04:56:33PM PRIORITIES UNNECESSARY AT THIS TIME.
04:56:34PM I MOTION TO REMOVE THE STAFF REPORT FROM THE FEBRUARY 22
04:56:38PM WORKSHOP AGENDA THAT I MADE IN JULY OF 2023.
04:56:41PM THAT STAFF TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON MOBILITY NEEDS AND
04:56:44PM PRIORITIES.
04:56:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:56:46PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:56:48PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:56:49PM OPPOSED?
04:56:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE SIX PILOT PROJECT IS DONE.
04:56:53PM SO I MOTION TO HAVE STAFF GIVE A BRIEF FIVE-MINUTE REPORT ON
04:56:58PM THE RESULTS OF THE SIX PILOT PROJECTS ON MAY 16, 2024.
04:57:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
04:57:04PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:57:06PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
04:57:07PM ANYTHING ELSE?
04:57:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON -- NOPE.
04:57:13PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
04:57:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY -- I THINK I CAN
04:57:17PM SPEAK FOR ALL OF US AND SEND BEST WISHES TO COUNCILMAN
04:57:21PM CARLSON.
04:57:21PM I HOPE HE FEELS BETTER SOON.
04:57:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:57:24PM I WILL SECOND THAT.
04:57:25PM COUNCILMEMBERS.
04:57:26PM MR. SHELBY.
04:57:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
04:57:28PM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
04:57:32PM AN E-MAIL THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AN HOUR OR SO
04:57:36PM AGO.
04:57:36PM INVITATION TO A COMMUNITY MEETING MARCH 6 AT GALLERY
04:57:42PM IN HYDE PARK VILLAGE.
04:57:43PM PROVIDES A VISION FOR WILLOW AVENUE BETWEEN PLATT AND SWANN.
04:57:47PM TURNS OUT IN ATTENDANCE WILL BE THOSE FROM CITY OF TAMPA
04:57:51PM MOBILITY, TECO, THEA, HILLSBOROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION, ARC
04:57:59PM WILL BE THERE AND OTHER ATTENDEES AND SAYS THE MEETING --
04:58:02PM THE MEETING WILL INTRODUCE A VISION OF THE AN AREA OF THE
04:58:05PM CITY THAT WORKS INTO PLANS BEING IMPLEMENTED OR FINALIZED BY
04:58:08PM MOBILITY THEA, TECO AND OTHER ENTITIES AND I SUSPECT
04:58:13PM SOMEWHERE IN THAT PROCESS CITY COUNCIL IS A NECESSARY
04:58:15PM PARTNER, ONE WOULD THINK.
04:58:17PM DON'T KNOW.
04:58:18PM THE QUESTION IS, CAN CITY COUNCIL ATTEND AND THE ANSWER TO
04:58:23PM THAT WOULD BE YES.
04:58:24PM MY SUGGESTION IS PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT IF IT IS SOMETHING
04:58:28PM THAT CAN REASONABLY COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, YOU NOT ENGAGE
04:58:31PM IN DISCUSSION AMONGST YOURSELVES OR WITH PUBLIC WITH EACH
04:58:35PM OTHER.
04:58:35PM AND YOU REMAIN MINDFUL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SUNSHINE
04:58:38PM LAW.
04:58:38PM AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT INVOLVES ALL THESE ENTITIES
04:58:41PM INCLUDING MOBILITY.
04:58:42PM MY SENSE THAT IT WILL INVOLVE CITY COUNCIL.
04:58:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: UNDERSTOOD.
04:58:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I AM CONFUSED.
04:58:48PM I WAS LOOKING AT THE AGENDAFEBRUARY 15, 2024.
04:58:53PM 4:58 AND SAYING P.M. AND NOT A.M.
04:58:59PM IS THAT A TYPO?
04:59:01PM BECAUSE WE ARE LEAVING CITY COUNCIL AT -- IT IS NOT 4:59
04:59:05PM A.M. IN THE MORNING.
04:59:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WISH IT WERE.
04:59:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SORRY, THAT IS A JOKE.
04:59:13PM THAT IS A JOKE.
04:59:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BY COUNCILMAN
04:59:17PM MIRANDA.
04:59:17PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:59:19PM ALL RIGHT, WE ARE ADJOURNED.
04:59:21PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]

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