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THURSDAY, APRIL 11, 2024, 9:00 A.M.
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9:03:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:03:49AM WE CALL THE CRA MEETING TO ORDER THIS MORNING.
9:03:53AM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE
9:03:56AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:03:56AM PLEASE STAND.
9:04:05AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:04:10AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:04:12AM OKAY.
9:04:30AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION -- PLEASE STOP TALKING.
9:04:32AM MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES FROM LAST MEETING?
9:04:35AM OH, ROLL CALL AND THEN THE ADOPTION.
9:04:41AM THANK YOU.
9:04:41AM ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:04:42AM >>THE CLERK: CARLSON?
9:04:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:04:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:04:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:04:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:04:47AM >> VIERA?
9:04:47AM MIRANDA?
9:04:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:04:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
9:04:50AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES
9:04:53AM FROM THE LAST MEETING BY MANISCALCO, FOLLOWED BY -- SECOND
9:04:56AM BY MIRANDA.
9:04:57AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:04:58AM AYE.
9:04:59AM GREAT.
9:05:00AM NOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR DIRECTOR, ERICA MOODY, COME UP
9:05:07AM AND SET THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.
9:05:11AM >>ERICA MOODY: GOOD MORNING, BOARD.
9:05:12AM SETTING THE AGENDA, WE ARE ASKING TO SHIFT SOME THINGS.
9:05:18AM WE DO HAVE OUR GUESTS FROM DREW PARK, OUR CHAIR.
9:05:20AM SO WE WOULD BE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING FOR A BOARD MOTION TO
9:05:24AM MOVE ITEM 3 UP TO NUMBER 1 SO THEY CAN MAKE THEIR
9:05:27AM PRESENTATION AND HEAD ON WITH THEIR DAY.
9:05:30AM >> SO MOVED.
9:05:31AM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:05:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOVED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, SECONDED BY
9:05:37AM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:05:38AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:05:39AM AYE.
9:05:41AM OKAY.
9:05:41AM >>ERICA MOODY: FANTASTIC.
9:05:43AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:05:43AM THEN WE HAVE ITEMS FOR THE DOWNTOWN CRA AND THE CHANNELSIDE
9:05:47AM CRA LISTED AS ITEMS ONE AND TWO ON THE FINAL AGENDA.
9:05:51AM WE ARE REQUESTING FOR ITEMS 9 AND 10 TO BE MOVED THERE
9:05:55AM AFTER, SO WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON ALL INTERLOCAL ITEMS
9:05:58AM IN TOTALITY TO BE HEARD TOGETHER.
9:06:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CAN I HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT?
9:06:03AM >> SO MOVED.
9:06:03AM >> SECOND.
9:06:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:06:05AM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:06:10AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:06:11AM AYE.
9:06:13AM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU, BOARD.
9:06:14AM WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR ITEM 5, WHICH IS THE FERRY SERVICE
9:06:18AM UPDATE, TO BE CONTINUED TO THE MAY 9, 2024, CRA BOARD
9:06:21AM MEETING.
9:06:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
9:06:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
9:06:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:06:26AM AYE.
9:06:28AM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU, BOARD.
9:06:30AM FEW MORE.
9:06:30AM ITEMS 6 AND 7 BOTH RELATE TO THE EAST TAMPA SUMMER YOUTH
9:06:34AM PROGRAM.
9:06:35AM RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING FOR BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS TO BE HEARD
9:06:38AM TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME.
9:06:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
9:06:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
9:06:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:06:43AM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:06:44AM THREE MORE REQUESTS.
9:06:45AM ITEM NUMBER 11, CITY CRA SERVICE AGREEMENT TO BE CONTINUED
9:06:48AM TO THE NEXT BOARD MEETING ON MAY 9, WHICH IS ITEM 11.
9:06:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
9:06:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:06:55AM AYE.
9:06:57AM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU, BOARD.
9:06:58AM WE APPRECIATE THAT.
9:06:58AM REQUEST FOR ITEM 12, THE YBOR ARTS DISCUSSION TO BE
9:07:02AM CONTINUED TO JULY 25th FOR AN UPDATE THEN.
9:07:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
9:07:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN, SECONDED BY BOARD
9:07:08AM MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:07:09AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:07:10AM AYE.
9:07:12AM >>ERICA MOODY: ONE MORE, IF I MAY.
9:07:14AM REQUEST FOR ITEM 13, WHICH IS THE MICROGRANT LEVELS, WE DID
9:07:18AM RECEIVE A MEMORANDUM FROM BOARD MEMBER VIERA TO REMOVE IT
9:07:21AM FROM THE AGENDA BUT A BOARD MOTION WILL BE NECESSARY.
9:07:23AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
9:07:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
9:07:24AM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU.
9:07:27AM THAT COMPLETES THE SETTING OF THE AGENDA FOR TODAY.
9:07:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF REMOVING ITEM NUMBER
9:07:37AM 13?
9:07:38AM >> AYE.
9:07:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
9:07:41AM NOW CAN WE ADOPT THE AGENDA FOR TODAY?
9:07:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: SO MOVED.
9:07:46AM >> SECOND.
9:07:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
9:07:47AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:07:49AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
9:07:50AM >> AYE.
9:07:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOW WE CAN HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER WE
9:07:53AM HEAR FROM OUR ATTORNEY.
9:07:55AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: GOOD MORNING.
9:07:56AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
9:07:59AM AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CRA MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON
9:08:01AM THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CRA TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON ANY ITEM.
9:08:06AM HOWEVER, A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS
9:08:10AM PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:08:11AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE REMINDED TO REFRAIN
9:08:14AM FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING VULGAR OR
9:08:17AM THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING DISRUPTIVE NOISES
9:08:20AM OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:08:22AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
9:08:25AM PERSONAL ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OR CRA OFFICIAL, STAFF
9:08:28AM MEMBER, OR OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
9:08:30AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:08:32AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CRA
9:08:36AM BOARD FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA OF THE PODIUM.
9:08:39AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH CRA RULES MAY ALSO BE RULED
9:08:42AM OUT OF ORDER.
9:08:43AM AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE
9:08:46AM CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY'S MEETING.
9:08:50AM MEMBERS OF THE BOARD SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER
9:08:52AM UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:08:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:08:54AM FIRST, WE'LL GO WITH OUR ONLINE SPEAKER.
9:08:57AM MR. RANDOLPH, ARE YOU THERE THIS MORNING?
9:09:06AM >>THE CLERK: IF YOU COULD PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
9:09:08AM >> HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
9:09:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, GOOD MORNING.
9:09:11AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:09:12AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:09:14AM I'M WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
9:09:18AM I WANT TO GIVE SOME UPDATES QUICKLY ON THREE PROGRAMS THAT'S
9:09:21AM COMING UP.
9:09:22AM THE FIRST PROGRAM IS ENTITLED THE STATE OF BLACK NONPROFIT.
9:09:26AM ONLY 12% OF BLACK NONPROFITS OPERATE WITH AT LEAST -- OVER
9:09:36AM 58%, WHITE NONPROFITS OPERATE WITH AT LEAST ONE PAID
9:09:41AM EMPLOYEE.
9:09:42AM ABOUT 78% OF BLACK NONPROFITS OPERATE A BUDGET OF LESS THAN
9:09:48AM $500,000 AND NEARLY ONE-THIRD OF BLACK NONPROFITS OPERATE
9:09:54AM $30,000.
9:09:55AM THEY ARE LARGELY MADE UP OF VOLUNTEERS.
9:09:58AM IT'S BEEN FOUND THAT REVENUE FOR BLACK-LED ORGANIZATIONS, ON
9:10:03AM AVERAGE, ON AVERAGE IS LESS THAN 45 -- ON AVERAGE -- ON
9:10:14AM AVERAGE, BLACK NONPROFITS OPERATE LESS THAN 24% COMPARED TO
9:10:20AM WHITE NONPROFITS.
9:10:21AM ADDED TO THIS, BLACK FEMALE NONPROFITS ARE THE LEAST FUNDED.
9:10:27AM ON APRIL 30th, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORKSHOP ON HOW TO
9:10:30AM FUND AND GROW A NONPROFIT, STATE OF BLACK BUSINESS.
9:10:36AM ACCORDING TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, BLACK AND BROWN BUSINESSES
9:10:40AM CONSIST OF 50% OF THE POPULATION, YET ONLY ACCOUNT FOR 5% OF
9:10:47AM THE ECONOMIC GROWTH.
9:10:49AM ON APRIL THE 30th, WE'RE PLANNING TO DO A WORKSHOP ON HOW
9:10:52AM TO START, OPERATE, AND GROW A NONPROFIT.
9:10:55AM BLACK WEALTH.
9:10:58AM THIS GENERATION OF BLACK WILL BE THE FIRST GENERATION NOT TO
9:11:05AM LEAVE ANY WEALTH FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.
9:11:08AM BLACK PEOPLE SPEND $1.5 BILLION A YEAR.
9:11:14AM THAT MEANS -- THAT IS THE 8th RICHEST NATION IN THE WORLD.
9:11:22AM BY 2053, BLACKS WILL HAVE NO WEALTH AND WILL BE CONSIDERED A
9:11:29AM SECOND-CLASS CITIZENSHIP.
9:11:30AM ON APRIL THE 30th WE WILL BE DOING A WORKSHOP CALLED
9:11:36AM INVESTMENT 101 CREATING BLACK WEALTH IN BLACK AND LOW-INCOME
9:11:41AM COMMUNITIES.
9:11:42AM THIS IS GOING TO FOCUS ON HIGH RETURN ON INVESTMENT AS
9:11:46AM OPPOSED TO -- INVESTMENT ON THE DOLLAR.
9:11:52AM IT'S GOING TO FOCUS ON STOCKS AND BONDS AND QUICK-BUILDS.
9:11:56AM SO THESE ARE THE WORKSHOPS COMING UP AND FOCUS ON ECONOMIC
9:11:59AM DEVELOPMENT AND CHANGING THE NARRATIVE.
9:12:01AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE
9:12:03AM THIS.
9:12:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
9:12:06AM GOOD MORNING.
9:12:37AM >> STEPHANIE POYNOR.
9:12:45AM I WENT TO A MEETING FOR MACDILL AIR FORCE BASE IN THE LAST
9:12:49AM 60 DAYS OR SO.
9:12:50AM THIS BINDER WAS GIVEN TO ME.
9:12:52AM THIS BINDER HAS THE NOTATION THAT LAND USE OBJECTIVES 8.3
9:12:58AM SAYS SUPPORT AND STRENGTHEN THE ROLE OF MACDILL AIR FORCE
9:13:01AM BASE BY REQUIRING ADJACENT PROPERTIES TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH
9:13:05AM AIRPORT RELATED ACTIVITY.
9:13:06AM BUT YET TUESDAY, I GOT A PHONE CALL THAT LIVE LOCAL WAS
9:13:15AM APPROVED FOR 600 UNITS IN THE PROPERTY ABUTTING ME.
9:13:19AM WHAT I GAVE YOU IS A STATUTE IN PLAY CURRENTLY WITH OUR
9:13:25AM LEGISLATURE IN TALLAHASSEE.
9:13:26AM IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, 112-1.
9:13:30AM I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE GOVERNOR IS GOING TO SIGN IT.
9:13:33AM AND RIGHT HERE IT SAYS A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT LOCATED WITHIN
9:13:36AM A QUARTER OF A MILE OF THE MILITARY INSTALLATION IDENTIFIED
9:13:40AM AS BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
9:13:43AM ANYWAY, MAY NOT BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.
9:13:45AM THIS ISN'T THE LAW YET, BUT HERE IS MY NUMBER ONE PROBLEM
9:13:48AM HERE.
9:13:49AM WE HAVE A GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE.
9:13:51AM AND THE GOOD NEIGHBOR NOTICE IS SUPPOSED TO BE SENT OUT FOR
9:13:55AM THESE THINGS.
9:13:55AM I WOULD LIKE VERY MUCH FOR COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO MAKE A
9:13:58AM MOTION THAT LIVE LOCAL IS PUBLICLY --
9:14:01AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:14:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PLEASE REFRAIN FROM CALLING OUT A BOARD
9:14:04AM MEMBER'S NAME.
9:14:05AM >> I WAS ASKING HIM TO DO IT.
9:14:07AM OKAY.
9:14:07AM SO, IF YOU LOOK AT THESE, CURRENTLY SAYS AN AMENDMENT TO THE
9:14:10AM FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE CITY OF TAMPA'S COMPREHENSIVE
9:14:15AM PLAN.
9:14:15AM GUESS WHAT, LIVE LOCAL IS THAT.
9:14:17AM WHY WASN'T THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOTIFIED?
9:14:19AM TO MY KNOWLEDGE -- AND I'VE MADE HALF A DOZEN PHONE CALLS
9:14:25AM AND SENT A BUNCH OF E-MAILS -- THE BASE WASN'T NOTIFIED.
9:14:29AM WHY WASN'T IT NOTIFIED?
9:14:30AM YOU CAN'T JUST BUILD WHATEVER YOU WANT NEXT TO A MILITARY
9:14:33AM INSTALLATION.
9:14:34AM ALSO, HERE'S MY BIG ISSUE.
9:14:37AM THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED ON MARCH THE 28th.
9:14:42AM I HAVE SAT NEXT TO THE LAND USE PEOPLE WHO APPROVED THIS.
9:14:46AM I HAVE TALKED TO THEM ON THE PHONE.
9:14:49AM I HAVE SENT E-MAILS TO THEM AND THEY HAVE RESPONDED.
9:14:53AM I'VE TALKED TO THEM CASUALLY.
9:14:55AM NOBODY MENTIONED THAT I'M AN ABUTTING NEIGHBOR, THAT THIS
9:14:59AM WAS HERE.
9:15:00AM THIS PROJECT WAS TURNED DOWN WITH 100, 200 LESS UNITS LAST
9:15:06AM SUMMER BY YOU GUYS UNANIMOUSLY.
9:15:07AM 200 LESS UNITS.
9:15:09AM NOW, I WANT YOU TO SEE SOMETHING.
9:15:12AM THEY SAID WE'LL DO 40% AFFORDABLE.
9:15:14AM LOOK AT THIS CRAP.
9:15:16AM THOSE ARE ONE BEDROOM.
9:15:17AM THEY ARE ONLY MAKING THE AFFORDABLE ONE BEDROOM.
9:15:21AM SO WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS RULING OUT ANY FAMILIES.
9:15:24AM THEY ARE EXCLUDING ANYBODY WITH CHILDREN.
9:15:26AM AND IT'S ONLY FOR 120%.
9:15:28AM NOW I WANT YOU TO SEE 120% FOR ONE PERSON IS $80,000 A YEAR.
9:15:34AM THAT'S A LOT OF STINKING MONEY.
9:15:36AM THAT MEANS THEIR AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHOULD BE $2,000 A
9:15:40AM MONTH.
9:15:40AM BUT HERE IS THE PROBLEM.
9:15:42AM WE'VE BEEN HOODWINKED FOLKS.
9:15:45AM 1960 A MONTH.
9:15:48AM 1700 A MONTH.
9:15:49AM 1799 A MONTH.
9:15:50AM 1740 A MONTH.
9:15:53AM THIS IS AN OLD ONE.
9:15:55AM IT SAYS 2,000.
9:15:56AM THE BOTTOM LINE IS --
9:15:58AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:16:00AM -- WE'VE BEEN HOODWINKED.
9:16:02AM I'M NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT YOU.
9:16:05AM YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
9:16:07AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:16:09AM IT IS ASHAMED ADULT PEOPLE COME HERE AND YOU TELL THEM THEY
9:16:13AM CAN'T EXERCISE THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT.
9:16:15AM YOU CAN'T CALL PEOPLE BY THEIR NAMES.
9:16:17AM PEOPLE GOT A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT.
9:16:18AM YOU CAN CALL ANYBODY BY WHATEVER YOU WANT TO AND AIN'T
9:16:21AM NOTHING YOU ALL CAN DO ABOUT IT.
9:16:23AM YOU GOT PEOPLE SO SCARED, THEY SIT IN THE AUDIENCE AND THEY
9:16:27AM -- BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO DO THIS.
9:16:29AM YOU ALL GOT THEM SCARED -- COWARDS.
9:16:34AM BUT LET ME SAY THIS, IT AIN'T NOTHING WRONG IN BEING SELFISH
9:16:38AM AND CONCEDED AND THAT'S WHAT I AM THIS MORNING.
9:16:40AM THAT'S WHAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN FOR AFRICA.
9:16:44AM THAT'S WHAT I'VE ALWAYS BEEN FOR REPARATIONS.
9:16:47AM AND I WANT TO TELL EVERY LAST CITY COUNCIL MEMBER UP THERE
9:16:52AM TODAY, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THIS CITY TODAY, RIGHT
9:16:57AM HERE, RIGHT NOW, I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE HOMELESSNESS.
9:17:00AM I DON'T CARE ABOUT PARKS AND RECREATION.
9:17:02AM I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR REC CENTER.
9:17:06AM $54 MILLION REC CENTER.
9:17:09AM THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TODAY IN THIS CITY IS THE CLEAN UP.
9:17:17AM HOW THEY GAVE AN AFRICAN WOMAN PRISON.
9:17:23AM FOR NOT PRESCRIPTION GLASSES, FOR APPARENTLY SHOP LIFTING
9:17:30AM SOME SHADES.
9:17:31AM AT NASTY INTERNATIONAL MALL.
9:17:38AM HOW THEY GAVE AFRICAN WOMAN, SHOWS THAT AFRICAN PEOPLE HAVE
9:17:42AM NO POWER IN THIS CITY.
9:17:45AM COULD YOU IMAGINE THEM GIVING YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER 30 YEARS
9:17:49AM PRISON SENTENCE, SAY THEY ARE REPEAT OFFENDER.
9:17:53AM IF THEY ARE REPEAT OFFENDER, THAT MEANS THEY HAVE SOME
9:17:56AM PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS.
9:17:58AM SEND THEM TO TREATMENT AND REHABILITATION THE WAY YOU SEND
9:18:02AM CRACKERS.
9:18:03AM THE WAY YOU SEND WHITE FOLKS, OH, THEY ARE DRUG PROBLEM.
9:18:08AM KILL THEIR PARENTS, WHATEVER, WHATEVER.
9:18:11AM THEY HAD A PROBLEM WHEN THEY WERE A LITTLE CHILD.
9:18:14AM THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THIS CITY IS TO CLEAN UP.
9:18:21AM HOW THEY GAVE THAT LITTLE SISTER 30 YEARS PRISON, A STINKIN'
9:18:28AM NASTY JUDGE.
9:18:29AM ALLEGEDLY TRYING TO HONOR WHAT A STINKIN' NASTY RON DESANTIS
9:18:35AM IS TRYING TO DO.
9:18:37AM AND YOU-ALL SITTING HERE, YOU ALL HAVE POLICE AWARDS AND
9:18:41AM EVERYBODY --
9:18:43AM BUT WHEN THE PEOPLE TRYING TO SPEAK, YOU-ALL TELL THEM THEY
9:18:46AM CAN'T.
9:18:47AM YOU-ALL WANT COWARDS.
9:18:49AM YOU-ALL DON'T WANT RESISTANCE.
9:18:50AM YOU-ALL DON'T WANT REAL PEOPLE.
9:18:52AM YOU-ALL WANT COWARDS AND KEEP RUNNING OVER AFRICAN PEOPLE
9:18:55AM THE WAY YOU HAVE BEEN DOING FOR 624 YEARS.
9:18:59AM SISTERS FROM THIS CITY, CLEAN THAT UP.
9:19:02AM THAT'S YOUR DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY.
9:19:10AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
9:19:11AM GOOD MORNING.
9:19:18AM DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS YOUR PHONE?
9:19:21AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: PLEASE SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES.
9:19:25AM IS THAT REVEREND WILLIAMS CELL PHONE?
9:19:32AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE'LL GIVE HIM TIME TO DO THAT.
9:19:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:19:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:19:44AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR FRANK WILLIAMS, LOCATED AT 1112 EAST
9:19:48AM SCOTT STREET.
9:19:49AM YOU KNOW, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THE YOUNG MAN IS SO UPSET
9:19:55AM BECAUSE WE COME UP HERE DAY AFTER DAY, WEEK AFTER WEEK, AND
9:19:58AM WE GET NO RESULTS, AS IF NOBODY GIVES A DAMN ABOUT US.
9:20:03AM BUT WE GIVE A DAMN ABOUT OURSELVES AND THAT'S THE WAY IT
9:20:08AM WILL BE.
9:20:09AM WE'LL KEEP COMING UNTIL WE GET JUSTICE.
9:20:11AM IF YOU ALL DON'T BELIEVE IN JUSTICE FOR BLACK FOLKS, WE'LL
9:20:14AM KEEP COMING.
9:20:15AM AND WE'RE GOING TO GET JUSTICE ONE DAY, GOD-GIVEN JUSTICE.
9:20:21AM YOU ALL DON'T CARE ABOUT US, YOU WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING, GOD
9:20:25AM MIGHT NOT CARE ABOUT NONE OF YOU ALL EITHER.
9:20:29AM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT FAIR OAKS.
9:20:31AM YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR WANTS TO GET CREDIT FOR EVERYTHING.
9:20:37AM WE HAD A MEETING DOWN THERE ONE NIGHT, SHE DIDN'T EVEN SHOW
9:20:42AM UP.
9:20:43AM SHE SAID SHE HAD A MORE IMPORTANT THING TO DO THAN TO COME
9:20:47AM DOWN WITH A BUNCH OF NIGGAS.
9:20:51AM WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WE'LL GET JUSTICE ONE WAY OR THE
9:20:54AM OTHER, GOD-GIVEN JUSTICE.
9:20:56AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET YOU ALL MISTREAT US NO LONGER.
9:20:59AM WE DON'T CARE WHO WE GOT TO REPRESENT US.
9:21:01AM WE REPRESENT OURSELVES.
9:21:02AM AND YOU KNOW, IT'S SO SAD HOW YOU ALL BELIEVE IN WHITE AND
9:21:10AM BLACK.
9:21:14AM AND ALL THAT CRAP.
9:21:16AM LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING, GOD CREATED ALL OF US.
9:21:19AM GOD IS NOT PREJUDICE AT ALL.
9:21:22AM GOD IS OUTSTANDING GOD.
9:21:25AM WANTS TO DO GOOD FOR EVERYBODY.
9:21:26AM BUT WE ACT LIKE WE WANT TO REPRESENT -- REPRESENT GOD
9:21:32AM ALMIGHTY.
9:21:33AM GOD AS GOT ALL THE POWER.
9:21:36AM I TELL YOU ONE THING, GOD WILL DO EVERYTHING.
9:21:46AM ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS HAVE FAITH IN HIM AND TELL HIM WHAT WE
9:21:50AM NEED.
9:21:50AM I KNOW I'M WALKING ON A WALKER.
9:21:52AM YOU KNOW WHY I'M WALKING ON A WALKER BECAUSE THE WAY YOU ALL
9:21:55AM TREAT ME.
9:21:56AM YOU GO TO THE DOCTOR, HOW ARE YOU.
9:22:00AM WELL, WE CAN'T DO NOTHING FOR YOU.
9:22:02AM WE CAN'T DO NOTHING FOR YOU TO TRY AND TAKE MY CHURCH DOWN.
9:22:08AM 1112 SCOTT STREET.
9:22:10AM TOLD YOU ALL ABOUT IT MANY TIMES.
9:22:12AM YOU THINK YOU ALL COME DOWN THERE AND HELP ME OUT.
9:22:15AM YOU DON'T CARE.
9:22:18AM CHURCH IN A WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:22:24AM SAY WANT TO MAKE IT A GAY NEIGHBORHOOD, INFECTED WITH THE
9:22:30AM DISEASE, I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THEM MYSELF.
9:22:33AM BUT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, WE GOT TO LIVE SOMEWHERE.
9:22:37AM COME OUT THERE AND PUT A ROOF ON MY HOUSE, 85 YEARS OLD.
9:22:42AM LADY ASKED ME -- I TOLD HER.
9:22:48AM WELL, IT IS A FRAME HOUSE.
9:22:50AM WE DON'T DO FRAME HOUSE.
9:22:52AM I SAID, BUT I'M 85 YEARS OLD.
9:22:54AM I CAN'T DO NOTHING FOR MYSELF.
9:22:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PASTOR WILLIAMS, YOUR TIME IS UP.
9:22:58AM >> THANK YOU, I HEARD YOU.
9:22:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:23:00AM >> YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:23:00AM YOU ALL TELL ME MY TIME IS UP.
9:23:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT IS UP, PASTOR WILLIAMS.
9:23:06AM >> I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
9:23:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO PROBLEM.
9:23:11AM >> AIN'T NOTHING BUT --
9:23:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT?
9:23:13AM SIR?
9:23:14AM REFRAIN.
9:23:14AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:23:15AM -- FROM INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR IN THE CHAMBERS.
9:23:19AM PASTOR WILLIAMS, I KNOW YOU CAN TALK TO DARLENE.
9:23:24AM SHE HAS BEEN ASSISTING YOU WITH YOUR PROBLEMS AND GETTING
9:23:29AM PROGRESS FOR YOU.
9:23:29AM YOU CAN CONTINUE TO SEE HER ABOUT YOUR CHURCH AND OTHER
9:23:33AM MATTERS.
9:23:33AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:23:34AM GOOD MORNING, MS. SAUL-SENA.
9:23:36AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:23:37AM LINDA SAUL-SENA, 157 BISCAYNE.
9:23:40AM I'M HERE THIS MORNING TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT DESIGN WEEK
9:23:43AM 2024.
9:23:44AM DESIGN WEEK IS A CREATION OF EVENTS AND ACTIVITIES BETWEEN
9:23:49AM APRIL 12th AND 24th -- 21st, RATHER.
9:23:53AM ALL OF THEM IN TAMPA TAKE PLACE IN CRA DISTRICTS.
9:23:56AM AND THE REASON IS, OUR CRA DISTRICTS ARE OUR MOST
9:23:59AM INTERESTING NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:24:01AM IT'S DOWNTOWN, YBOR CITY, AND WEST TAMPA.
9:24:04AM I'M HERE TO INVITE YOU TO PARTICIPATE AND TO SHARE THIS WITH
9:24:07AM YOUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE WE'RE SHARING INFORMATION ON THE
9:24:11AM HISTORY OF THESE AREAS, THE FUTURE OF THESE AREAS, WAYS TO
9:24:15AM IMPLEMENT FUNDING PROJECTS IN THESE AREAS.
9:24:19AM THERE ARE WALKING TOURS.
9:24:20AM FREE FILM AT THE TAMPA THEATRE, A WALKING TOUR OF WATER
9:24:24AM STREET.
9:24:24AM THE MORE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY AND CARE ABOUT
9:24:28AM IT, THE MORE THEY'LL GET ENGAGED LIKE YOU ALL ARE, TO
9:24:31AM PROTECT IT.
9:24:32AM SO THIS IS -- OH.
9:24:35AM THE WONDERS OF TECHNOLOGY, THANK YOU.
9:24:40AM THE PREMISE OF DESIGN WEEK IS TO ENGAGE NOT ONLY THE
9:24:44AM ARCHITECTURAL AND DESIGN COMMUNITY, BUT THE ENTIRE
9:24:47AM COMMUNITY, NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS, NEIGHBORS, JUST INTERESTED
9:24:50AM CITIZENS, PEOPLE WHO MOVED HERE RECENTLY PERHAPS WHO WANT TO
9:24:53AM KNOW MORE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY IN WHICH THEY LIVE AND HOW
9:24:56AM THEY CAN BECOME MORE ENGAGED.
9:24:59AM I SPECIFICALLY WOULD INVITE PEOPLE TO THE FREE EVENTS,
9:25:02AM ALTHOUGH THE OTHERS ARE INEXPENSIVE.
9:25:03AM THE TAMPA THEATRE ON MONDAY NIGHT, A FILM ABOUT THE FUTURE
9:25:10AM OF -- NOT TAMPA -- BUT ANY CITY AND NEW BUILDING MATERIALS
9:25:13AM THAT ARE GOING TO CREATE NEW SORTS OF CITIES.
9:25:15AM AND THEN FRIDAY AFTERNOON, TOMORROW AT NOON, A WALKING TOUR
9:25:19AM OF WATER STREET.
9:25:20AM SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
9:25:22AM SPREAD THE WORD.
9:25:23AM THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
9:25:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
9:25:32AM NEXT SPEAKER.
9:25:32AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:25:33AM DR. MICHELLE WILLIAMS.
9:25:34AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6 AND 7.
9:25:46AM MANY MOONS AGO, DR. KING STOOD ON THE FOOTSTEPS OF THE
9:25:50AM WASHINGTON MONUMENT.
9:25:51AM AND HE RENDERED ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL SPEECHES THAT STILL
9:25:58AM ARE WOVEN INTO THE FABRICS OF AMERICA TODAY.
9:26:02AM AND IN HIS SPEECH, HE LET AMERICA KNOW THAT SHE HAD WRITTEN
9:26:10AM A CHECK TO ITS BLACK CITIZENS THAT CONTINUOUSLY COMES BACK
9:26:14AM MARKED INSUFFICIENT FUNDS.
9:26:17AM INSUFFICIENT FUNDS ARE NOT NECESSARILY MONETARY MONEY.
9:26:22AM BUT INSUFFICIENT FUNDS ON THE PROMISES OF EQUALITY AND
9:26:29AM JUSTICE.
9:26:29AM WE HAVE YET TO REACH THESE PROMISES FOR A CHECK THAT AMERICA
9:26:33AM HAS WRITTEN TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
9:26:40AM AMERICA IN HER STRIDE TOWARDS GREATNESS HAS OFTEN STUMBLED
9:26:46AM WRITING CHECKS OF LIBERTY AND JUSTICE THAT HAVE COME BACK
9:26:50AM MARKED INSUFFICIENT FUNDS FOR HER BLACK CITIZENS.
9:26:53AM DESPITE THE LOFTY IDEALS ENSHRINED IN HER FOUNDING
9:26:58AM DOCUMENTS, THE REALITY FOR MANY HAS BEEN A NARRATIVE OF
9:27:02AM EXCLUSION, OPPRESSION, AND NEGLECT.
9:27:05AM IT IS A REALITY MARKED BY THE STIFLING CESSPOOL OF STAGNANT
9:27:12AM WATERS, WATERS TEEMING WITH THE TOXINS OF LIES, CORRUPTION,
9:27:16AM AND SYSTEMIC RACISM.
9:27:18AM THESE WATERS HAVE FLOODED THE STREETS OF OUR COMMUNITIES,
9:27:21AM SEEPING INTO THE VERY FOUNDATIONS OF OUR HOMES, OUR SCHOOLS,
9:27:25AM AND PLACES OF WORK.
9:27:27AM THEY HAVE POISONED THE WELL FROM WHICH OUR CHILDREN DRINK,
9:27:32AM CLOUDING THEIR FUTURE WITH SEDIMENTS OF MISEDUCATION,
9:27:35AM UNEMPLOYMENT AND POVERTY.
9:27:36AM THE CURRENTS OF THESE WATERS HAVE ERODED THE BANKS OF
9:27:41AM JUSTICE, SWEEPING AWAY THE LIVES OF OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS,
9:27:43AM OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS WITH A COLD AND RUTHLESS
9:27:47AM EFFICIENCY, YET AS WE STAND WITH THESE SWIRLING WATERS, WE
9:27:53AM MUST REMEMBER THE POWER OF THE DREAM AND THE VISION THAT DR.
9:27:57AM KING HAD.
9:27:58AM NOW, I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A PROGRAM THAT WAS SET FORTH FOR
9:28:01AM THE YOUTH OF THIS COMMUNITY.
9:28:04AM AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME UNDERMINING THINGS
9:28:11AM GOING ON WITH THE SAID PROJECT.
9:28:12AM LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
9:28:14AM I DON'T SELL WOLF TICKETS.
9:28:16AM EVERY CHECK THAT I'VE EVER WRITTEN HAS NEVER BEEN MARKED
9:28:19AM INSUFFICIENT FUNDS.
9:28:20AM JUST KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO DO TOO MUCH TALKING AT THIS
9:28:24AM PODIUM NO MORE.
9:28:26AM THE ONLY LANGUAGE THAT AMERICA HAS SHOWN TO BE TRUE THAT SHE
9:28:31AM BELIEVES IS HITTING YOU IN YOUR POCKET.
9:28:51AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
9:28:53AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 1, 6, 7, 8, AND 10.
9:29:00AM 1, IS IF YOU ARE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA
9:29:04AM AND MOVING IT TOWARD TAKING CARE OF SOME REAL NEEDS IN OUR
9:29:09AM COMMUNITY, MAYBE WE WON'T CONTINUE TO HEAR ABOUT AQUARIUM
9:29:13AM AND THINGS THAT DO NOT SPECIFICALLY HAVE THE LOOK OF BLIGHT
9:29:19AM IN OUR COMMUNITY, BLIGHT IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
9:29:23AM THAT MONEY COULD BE UTILIZED SO IF YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT
9:29:27AM NUMBER 10, I CAN TELL THE PEOPLE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS THAT IF
9:29:31AM A CRA IS COMING YOUR WAY, WHAT IT REALLY MEANS IS TO
9:29:36AM GENTRIFY YOUR COMMUNITY.
9:29:38AM ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT EAST TAMPA, WHICH IS THE
9:29:41AM FIRST CRA IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND STILL HAVE THE MOST
9:29:45AM BLIGHT IN THIS CITY.
9:29:46AM NUMBER 8, THE HANNA CENTER WILL BE SUFFICIENT RIGHT NOW FOR
9:29:53AM ALL OF THE STAFF TO DO THEIR WORK THERE.
9:29:56AM AND NUMBER 6 AND 7, WHAT I HAVE GIVEN YOU IS WHAT CONTINUES
9:30:02AM TO BE MISINFORMATION GOING OUT INTO OUR COMMUNITY, RIGHT?
9:30:05AM SO WHEN THEY WAS DOING THE MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENT THEY
9:30:10AM SAID ABOUT THE WONDERFUL SUMMER JOB PROGRAM COMING INTO THE
9:30:12AM COMMUNITY.
9:30:13AM THEY PASSED THIS OUT DURING THE MARTIN LUTHER KING EVENT ON
9:30:16AM THAT FLYER, TALKS ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF THESE ARE THE
9:30:22AM TYPE OF JOBS.
9:30:23AM I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD BE OFFERED THIS IS WHAT THE
9:30:26AM CITY OFFERS.
9:30:28AM BUT WHAT OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO GET BECAUSE THERE IS
9:30:31AM SUCH RESISTANCE TO MAKING A GOOD SUMMER PROGRAM, WHEN WE ASK
9:30:36AM FOR 72 STUDENTS TO BE HIRED.
9:30:40AM 72.
9:30:41AM WE CAN'T GET PAST 36.
9:30:43AM WE MIGHT GET TO 50.
9:30:46AM THE CRA LAID OUT ITS OWN FUNDING TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO
9:30:51AM DEAL WITH 72 CHILDREN.
9:30:53AM WHAT'S HARD ABOUT THAT?
9:30:54AM WHAT'S HARD ABOUT THAT?
9:30:57AM I KNOW THE CITY -- STAFF WILL BE GIVEN A REPORT.
9:31:00AM IT HAS MOVED FROM ONE DEPARTMENT TO THE OTHER.
9:31:02AM THAT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM.
9:31:03AM OUR PROBLEM IS ENSURING THAT OUR CHILDREN HAVE A QUALITY OF
9:31:09AM LIFE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE REAL WORLD OF WORK
9:31:12AM OUTSIDE OF A PAPER.
9:31:16AM ON THAT FLYER, IT HAD A REGISTRATION ONLINE.
9:31:19AM IF YOU HIT IT WITH YOUR PHONE, IT'S NOT HOW YOUNG PEOPLE CAN
9:31:24AM FOR THE JOB, IT'S TALKING ABOUT A SURVEY FROM LAST YEAR.
9:31:26AM THIS FLYER, IF THE YOUNG PEOPLE TRIED TO ATTEMPT TO FIND OUT
9:31:32AM WHERE THE SUMMER JOBS WERE, IT TELLS THEM ABSOLUTELY
9:31:36AM NOTHING.
9:31:36AM WE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF THE BS THAT CONTINUES TO CONTINUE
9:31:43AM THAT CONTINUES.
9:31:44AM 72 JOBS IS WHAT WE WANT.
9:31:47AM WE HAVE LAID OUT THE MONEY THROUGH THE CRA FOR IT TO HAPPEN,
9:31:51AM FOR IT NOT TO HAPPEN MEANS THAT YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO SEE
9:31:54AM OUR CHILDREN GO DOWN THIS SPIRAL PATH OF DESTRUCTION.
9:31:59AM IT IS ON YOU FOR THIS SUMMER, NOT NEXT YEAR.
9:32:11AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:32:16AM MY NAME IS VALERIE BULLOCK.
9:32:18AM I COME TO TALK ABOUT NUMBER 6 AND 7 ON THE AGENDA.
9:32:21AM WHEN IT COMES TO EAST TAMPA SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM, WE CAN GET
9:32:25AM A HEAD START IF WE START TALKING RIGHT NOW ABOUT NEXT YEAR.
9:32:29AM WE DO NEED JOBS.
9:32:32AM PICKING UP PAPER, ANYBODY CAN DO THAT.
9:32:35AM WE APPRECIATE THE MONEY WE GOT TO BUY OUR SCHOOL CLOTHES
9:32:38AM WITH THE LAST TEN YEARS, BUT WE WOULD LIKE OUR KIDS TO BE
9:32:42AM EXPOSED TO JOBS THAT CAN LEAD INTO A CAREER, LIKE I.T.,
9:32:48AM INFRASTRUCTURE.
9:32:48AM I HEARD THE COUNCILMAN LAST WEEK, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS
9:32:52AM RELATIVES AND HOW THEY WERE DISABLED, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO
9:32:56AM GET A JOB AND MRS. WYNN CAME UP AND GAVE THE REPORT.
9:33:01AM WE PUT THEM IN THIS DEPARTMENT, PUT THEM IN THAT DEPARTMENT.
9:33:04AM SO THAT TELLS ME THAT IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE.
9:33:08AM WE WOULD LIKE THE SAME DOORS TO REMAIN OPEN FOR THE YOUTH
9:33:12AM FROM EAST TAMPA.
9:33:12AM IT'S MORE FOR THEM TO DO AND WE HAVE A WHOLE YEAR TO GET IT
9:33:16AM RIGHT.
9:33:16AM I THINK WE NEED TO START WORKING ON IT.
9:33:18AM I BELIEVE WE GIVE OUR CHILDREN AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A JOB
9:33:23AM IN THE SUMMER AS AN INTERN DOWNTOWN, THEY MIGHT LIKE IT.
9:33:27AM THEY MIGHT GET A CHANCE TO REPEAT IT THE FOLLOWING YEAR, AND
9:33:30AM THAT MIGHT TRIGGER SOMETHING AND THEY SAY I WANT A CAREER IN
9:33:34AM THIS FIELD.
9:33:35AM IF TAMPA IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT GREAT CITY, PREMIER CITY
9:33:39AM WHICH WE ARE PLANNING ON BEING, WE HAVE TO HAVE
9:33:42AM OPPORTUNITIES FOR EVERYONE.
9:33:45AM WE CAN'T JUST OPEN UP A DOOR FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE AND CLOSE IT
9:33:48AM FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
9:33:49AM LOOKING AT THE CRA IN EAST TAMPA LOOK LIKE TO ME IT'S BEEN
9:33:54AM PURPOSELY SABOTAGED.
9:33:56AM THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME.
9:33:58AM ITEM NUMBER 7, LETTING OCEA WYNN PUTTING IT UNDER THE CITY,
9:34:04AM THAT IS A NO.
9:34:05AM WE HAD A DISTRUST THE MAYOR AND THE CITY, IF THE CITY WAS
9:34:08AM DOING RIGHT ALREADY, WE WOULDN'T NEED AN EAST TAMPA SUMMER
9:34:11AM YOUTH PROGRAM.
9:34:12AM THEY COULD GET ON WITH THE CITY.
9:34:14AM THAT IS A BIG NO FOR ME.
9:34:16AM IT'S TOO MUCH DISTRUST THERE, AND WE GOT TO USE OUR EAST
9:34:19AM TAMPA FUNDS TO GIVE IT TO THE CITY SO THEY CAN TELL OUR KIDS
9:34:23AM WHERE TO WORK AT.
9:34:25AM WE GOT OUR OWN MONEY.
9:34:26AM STOP SABOTAGING THE PROGRAMS THAT EAST TAMPA CRA HAVE PUT IN
9:34:30AM PLACE.
9:34:31AM IF WE GOT THE FUNDING ALREADY FOR THE KIDS, 72 KIDS AND FOR
9:34:35AM THEM TO GO TO DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, WE NEED TO ALLOW THAT.
9:34:39AM WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.
9:34:41AM EVIDENTLY IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.
9:34:44AM JUST LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN FOR THE YOUTH IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:34:47AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:34:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:34:56AM I HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN.
9:34:58AM DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT TODAY.
9:35:00AM OKAY.
9:35:00AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:35:01AM GOOD MORNING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
9:35:02AM MY NAME IS KEN STOLTENBERG.
9:35:06AM BUSINESS OWNER, RESIDENT AND DEVELOPER IN THE CHANNEL
9:35:08AM DISTRICT HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 2.
9:35:10AM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA HAS BEEN AMAZINGLY SUCCESSFUL.
9:35:13AM I THINK IT SHOULD BE A POSTER CHILD FOR WHAT ALL CRAs
9:35:17AM SHOULD BE AS FAR AS THE REVITALIZATION THAT'S HAPPENED AND
9:35:20AM THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT'S BRINGING IN.
9:35:22AM WHEN IT BRINGS IN WHAT IT DOES, WHICH IS OVER $11 MILLION
9:35:25AM THIS YEAR, THE CITY HAS A LOT OF NEEDS.
9:35:27AM NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
9:35:28AM I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT 20 YEARS AGO WHEN THE CRA GOT
9:35:32AM STARTED, THE LARGEST ITEM FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT AND
9:35:36AM FROM WHAT NEEDED TO BE DONE STANDPOINT, THE MOST IMPORTANT
9:35:40AM ITEM WAS BUYING LAND FOR OPEN SPACE.
9:35:42AM THE CITY HAS DONE A COUPLE OF THINGS BUT NOWHERE NEAR WHAT
9:35:45AM THE PLAN SUGGESTED THAT IT DO.
9:35:47AM ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, I CAME BEFORE THE CRA BOARD AND
9:35:52AM SUGGESTED THAT THE CITY BUY A COUPLE OF PIECES OF PROPERTY.
9:35:55AM CURRENT STAFF DIDN'T TAKE THAT VERY WELL.
9:35:57AM BUT I'M STILL HERE AND THEY ARE NOT.
9:35:59AM I WOULD LIKE THE CURRENT CRA STAFF THAT YOU HAVE NOW, I
9:36:01AM THINK THEY ARE QUITE GOOD AND LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING
9:36:04AM WITH THEM.
9:36:05AM I WOULD JUST SAY THAT IF YOU COULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO
9:36:07AM ACTUALLY BY SOME MORE LAND FOR OPEN SPACE TO GET CLOSER TO
9:36:10AM THE ULI STANDARDS, WHICH WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR, I THINK IT'S
9:36:15AM MORE IMPORTANT TO DO THAT FIRST AND THEN TALK ABOUT
9:36:18AM REDIRECTING FUNDS WHEREVER THEY SHOULD GO BECAUSE THERE ARE
9:36:21AM NEEDS AND THE CHANNEL DISTRICT WILL PROBABLY MAKE MORE MONEY
9:36:23AM THAN IT WILL NEED.
9:36:25AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
9:36:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS WILL BE OUR LAST SPEAKER.
9:36:31AM IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE, PLEASE STAND TO THE SIDE SO WE'LL
9:36:34AM KNOW.
9:36:34AM THANK YOU.
9:36:34AM GOOD MORNING.
9:36:35AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:36:36AM MY NAME IS BLACK ROSE.
9:36:37AM HONESTLY, I'M JUST HERE TO REMIND YOU OF WHAT IS IMPORTANT
9:36:47AM WHEN IT COMES TO THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM.
9:36:51AM THE YOUTH.
9:36:51AM THEY ARE THE MOST CRITICAL COMPONENT TO THIS.
9:36:55AM REDUCING THE YOUTH THAT IS BEING SERVED BY HALF IS ONLY
9:37:01AM GOING TO BE MORE DETRIMENT TO THESE YOUTH.
9:37:04AM WE EXPECT THEM TO BE ENTERTAINED WHILE WE'RE LOCKING UP THE
9:37:09AM PLAYGROUNDS AND THE SPORTS CENTERS WHERE SOME OF THEM ARE SO
9:37:12AM LOCKED UP, YOU HAVE TO HONK YOUR HORN TO GET THE ATTENTION
9:37:15AM OF THE SECURITY TO OPEN THE GATE FOR YOU TO GET IN.
9:37:18AM LIKE, THESE KIDS DON'T EVEN HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR OWN
9:37:23AM COMMUNITY RECREATIONAL SPACES.
9:37:25AM WE EXPECT THEM TO SOMEHOW STAY OUT OF DRUGS, STAY OUT OF
9:37:28AM GANGS, STAY OUT OF TROUBLE-MAKING ACTIVITIES, LOITERING,
9:37:33AM VAGRANCY, TRUANCY, BUT WE DON'T PROVIDE ANYTHING FOR THEM,
9:37:37AM ESPECIALLY IN EAST TAMPA.
9:37:39AM WE NEED TO TAKE THE YOUTH SERIOUSLY.
9:37:43AM 72 CHILDREN.
9:37:44AM AND REALLY WE SHOULD BE UPPING THAT NUMBER.
9:37:47AM THERE ARE A LOT OF KIDS IN EAST TAMPA.
9:37:48AM A LOT OF YOUTH THAT NEEDS TO MAKE MONEY.
9:37:50AM WE NEED MORE PROGRAMS.
9:37:52AM THIS SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM SHOULDN'T BE THE, OH, THIS IS IT.
9:37:56AM THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO FOR THE KIDS.
9:37:57AM WE SHOULD BE THINKING BIGGER.
9:37:59AM WE SHOULDN'T BE CHANGING THINGS THAT TWO YEARS AGO I WAS
9:38:02AM SITTING IN ON CRA MEETINGS WHILE WE WERE COMING UP WITH WHAT
9:38:05AM WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE YOUTH PROGRAM.
9:38:08AM NOW HERE WE ARE STILL DEBATING IT, STILL PUTTING OFF THE
9:38:12AM DISCUSSIONS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE PROGRAM, MAKE
9:38:14AM IT BETTER AND SERVE MORE YOUTH.
9:38:16AM HOW DOES THIS MAKE SENSE?
9:38:17AM HOW ARE YOU ALL OKAY WITH IT?
9:38:20AM MEANWHILE, AS HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, EAST TAMPA IS SO
9:38:25AM SEVERELY BEHIND, THE OLDEST CRA AND STILL THE MOST BLIGHT IN
9:38:28AM ALL OF TAMPA BAY?
9:38:29AM OF ALL OF TAMPA?
9:38:31AM HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
9:38:33AM HOW ARE ANY OF YOU OKAY WITH THIS?
9:38:35AM YOU-ALL NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY,
9:38:39AM OUR PLEAS ARE GOING UNHEARD.
9:38:41AM ANYTIME WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT ARE SET UP FOR THE YOUTH, THEY
9:38:44AM GET SHUT DOWN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT LICENSING OR
9:38:47AM THE RIGHT PEOPLE OR DON'T HAVE THIS OR THAT.
9:38:49AM WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN?
9:38:51AM THE PEOPLE OF EAST TAMPA CAN'T SERVE OUR OWN YOUTH BUT
9:38:54AM NEITHER WILL THE CITY?
9:38:54AM MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.
9:38:56AM DO SOMETHING.
9:39:06AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:39:06AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:39:08AM >> I'M SURGRET DOSS.
9:39:10AM AS MY SHIRT INDICATES, I'M A VETERAN.
9:39:12AM I USED TO BE A PART OF THE HOMEOWNERS COMMUNITY BEFORE THE
9:39:16AM CITY OF TAMPA HELPED ORCHESTRATE THE STEALING OF FOUR OF MY
9:39:20AM PROPERTIES.
9:39:20AM BUT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I NEED THE CITY -- WHAT I
9:39:24AM NEED YOUR CITY COUNCIL TO DO FOR ME.
9:39:26AM BECAUSE THIS ISSUE OF THE 7,000 E-MAILS THAT WEREN'T TURNED
9:39:30AM OVER DURING MY DISCOVERY PROCESS, WE'RE STILL DEALING WITH
9:39:34AM THAT BECAUSE NOT GETTING THE $10,000, I DECIDED TO BRING IT
9:39:37AM TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
9:39:38AM I'M GOING TO NARROW WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO.
9:39:40AM BECAUSE I HAVE ANOTHER SET OF E-MAILS THAT CONTAIN ME BEING
9:39:43AM REFERRED TO AS SOMETHING OTHER THAN SURGRET DOSS, MY MOTHER
9:39:47AM NAMED ME.
9:39:48AM I WANT THE CITY COUNCIL TO TELL THEM, TURN OVER TO MR. DOSS
9:39:58AM ANY E-MAIL THAT REFERS TO HIM AS SOMETHING OTHER THAN
9:39:59AM SURGRET DOSS.
9:40:01AM SO IF YOU HAVE HIM REFERRED TO AS A SOVEREIGN CITIZEN OR A
9:40:01AM NIGGA OR WHATEVER ELSE IT IS, GIVE HIM THOSE E-MAILS BECAUSE
9:40:01AM I KNOW THEY ARE IN THERE.
9:40:06AM THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPLE FOR EVERYBODY TO DO.
9:40:11AM AGAIN, THIS THING WAS SETTLED BACK IN 2018.
9:40:13AM MY CASE WAS DISMISSED IN MY FAVOR AFTER YOUR EMPLOYEE DID
9:40:17AM ALL THAT, PUT ALL THAT TIME, EFFORT AND ENERGY AND
9:40:20AM TAXPAYERS' MONEY INTO TRYING TO GET ME CONVICTED FOR
9:40:23AM SOMETHING I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT DO.
9:40:25AM THE JUDGE DISMISSED IT FOR THOSE REASONS.
9:40:27AM AGAIN, WITH THAT BEING SAID, GO THROUGH THOSE 7,000 PLUS
9:40:32AM E-MAILS, WHICH IS KIND OF A LOT OF E-MAILS.
9:40:35AM FIND THE E-MAILS WHERE I'M REFERRED TO AS SOMETHING OTHER
9:40:38AM THAT SURGRET DOSS.
9:40:40AM IF THERE ARE NO E-MAILS THAT STATE THAT, GIVE ME THE LETTERS
9:40:44AM STATING THAT AS WELL AND I'LL STILL GET THE 7,000 E-MAILS AT
9:40:47AM SOME POINT IN TIME.
9:40:47AM THAT BEING SAID, YOU ALL TAKE CARE.
9:40:49AM SHOUT-OUT TO UNIVERSITY THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL.
9:40:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:41:00AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:41:02AM ANDY JOE SCAGLIONE.
9:41:04AM AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN CHANNELSIDE, THE
9:41:07AM JOURNEY OF CHANNELSIDE SINCE 1983, 41 YEARS.
9:41:11AM IT MAKES NO SENSE TO GIVE THE COUNTY THE REMAINING NINE
9:41:14AM YEARS OF HARD-EARNED DEVELOPMENT TAX BASE WE HAVE CREATED
9:41:17AM NOR DOES THE COUNTY THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
9:41:20AM MORE IMPORTANT, WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES IN CHANNELSIDE.
9:41:22AM IT'S NOT DONE.
9:41:23AM WE HAVE THE PORT AREA.
9:41:25AM WE HAVE THE LORDEN PIECE.
9:41:27AM WE HAVE THE NORTHERN END.
9:41:29AM WE HAVE OUR CULTURE PIECE THERE, OUR AQUARIUM, JUST LIKE
9:41:33AM DOWNTOWN HAS THE STRAZ, WE HAVE THE AQUARIUM.
9:41:34AM GREAT THINGS HAPPENING THERE.
9:41:36AM UNCERTAINTY IS ONE OF THE WORST THINGS YOU CAN DO IN THE
9:41:42AM BUSINESS COMMUNITY OR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
9:41:43AM BY US CONTINUING TO TALK ABOUT CLOSING DOWN CRAs, CAPPING
9:41:49AM THEM, IT IS THE WORST THING WE CAN DO.
9:41:51AM CAPITAL MARKETS ARE WATCHING.
9:41:56AM VERY, VERY FRAGILE RIGHT NOW, WITH INFLATION AND PRIME RATE
9:41:59AM OF 8.5%, THE PIPELINE IS GOING TO BECOME LESS AND LESS.
9:42:03AM ALL THE MOMENTUM WE'VE HAD FOR MANY YEARS GOING TO START
9:42:08AM SEEING IT REALLY, REALLY GO DOWN.
9:42:09AM WE DON'T WANT THAT.
9:42:10AM WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE A VERY TALENTED CRA STAFF.
9:42:17AM THEREFORE, LET'S NOT BOG OUR TIME WITH UNNECESSARY REPORTS
9:42:23AM AND LET THEM BE CREATIVE AND EXECUTE.
9:42:26AM LASTLY, I DON'T KNOW IF -- BUT THE LOSS OF NICOLE TRAVIS
9:42:34AM WILL BE FELT IN THIS CITY.
9:42:35AM SHE HAS PUT A GREAT TEAM TOGETHER.
9:42:39AM THAT'S THE CONSOLIDATION OF THIS, AS GREAT LEADERS DO.
9:42:42AM THEY ALWAYS HIRE WHAT I CALL, ALWAYS STRIVE TO HIRE YOUR
9:42:47AM REPLACEMENT AND THAT'S WHAT SHE'S DONE.
9:42:49AM SHE'S PUT A GREAT TEAM IN PLACE.
9:42:51AM SHE WILL BE LOST.
9:42:52AM GOOD LUCK TO YOU, NICOLE.
9:42:53AM ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND YOU ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL
9:42:57AM DAY.
9:42:58AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
9:42:59AM THANK YOU, MR. SCAGLIONE.
9:43:00AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:43:02AM NOW WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR AGENDA.
9:43:18AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD.
9:43:20AM CEDRIC McCRAY.
9:43:21AM EAST TAMPA AND DREW PARK CRA MANAGER.
9:43:23AM PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU THIS MORNING.
9:43:25AM I HAVE THE DISTINCT HONOR AND PLEASURE OF INTRODUCING THE
9:43:27AM DREW PARK CAC CHAIR FOR THEIR REPORT, MS. MARITZA
9:43:32AM ASTORQUIZA, HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THE DREW PARK CAC OFF AND
9:43:38AM ON FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
9:43:40AM SHE IS A PART OF TWO FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESSES IN THE DREW
9:43:42AM PARK COMMUNITY, ONE OF WHICH HAS BEEN IN PLACE 40 YEARS.
9:43:46AM SHE'S VESTED IN THAT COMMUNITY, AND I HAVE THE HONOR OF
9:43:50AM INTRODUCING HER TO PROVIDE UPDATES FOR YOU ON DREW PARK CAC
9:43:55AM AND CRA.
9:43:56AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD MORNING.
9:43:57AM >>MARITZA ASTORQUIZA: GOOD MORNING.
9:43:58AM YES, MY NAME IS MARITZA ASTORQUIZA.
9:44:01AM THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION.
9:44:05AM YES, I HAVE BEEN PART OF THE CRA SINCE ACTUALLY THE
9:44:09AM BEGINNING, FOUNDING MEMBER.
9:44:14AM I DO REMEMBER WHEN EAST TAMPA WAS FORMED, AND WE FOLLOWED
9:44:19AM AND I LEARNED QUITE A BIT FROM EAST TAMPA, ACTUALLY, AS THEY
9:44:23AM WERE MOVING FORWARD TO HELP MOVE FORWARD DREW PARK CRA.
9:44:28AM SO I WANTED TO NOTE THAT, THAT EAST TAMPA DID SET THE PACE.
9:44:32AM WHAT I'M HERE TO SAY TODAY -- FIRST OF ALL, I WANTED TO SAY
9:44:39AM THAT I HEARD ABOUT SOMETHING CALLED DESIGN WEEK, WHICH I
9:44:42AM THINK SEEMED LIKE A GREAT IDEA AND GLAD THAT IT SEEMS LIKE
9:44:47AM WE'RE DEDICATING SOME TIME TO THE HISTORY OF TAMPA AND THE
9:44:51AM CRAs.
9:44:52AM I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL.
9:44:53AM PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE, DREW PARK COULD BE CONSIDERED.
9:44:57AM WE ALL KNOW DREW PARK HAS ONE OF THE RICHEST AREAS OF
9:45:02AM HISTORY, WITH OUR MILITARY BASE AND NOT ONLY THE MILITARY
9:45:06AM BASE, BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE STARTED THEIR BUSINESSES THERE AND
9:45:11AM MULTIGENERATION OF BUSINESSES THAT STILL EXIST HERE.
9:45:14AM IT IS A BACKBONE OF A LOT OF THE ECONOMY HERE IN TAMPA FROM
9:45:16AM THE EVERYDAY FOLKS.
9:45:20AM THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY AND WE'VE HAD HISTORY WORKSHOPS
9:45:23AM THERE IN AT LEAST ONE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WAS PART OF ONE OF
9:45:27AM THEM.
9:45:30AM THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY THAT NEEDS TO BE CAPTURED REGARDING
9:45:34AM DREW PARK, AND IT GOES BEYOND THE MILITARY.
9:45:36AM JUST SAYING THAT.
9:45:36AM OKAY.
9:45:37AM MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE HAD A TRANSITION FROM JESUS NINOS TO
9:45:44AM CEDRIC.
9:45:45AM IT'S BEEN SMOOTH.
9:45:46AM WE MISS JESUS, BUT WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE BEEN ASSIGNED
9:45:52AM MR. McCRAY.
9:45:54AM WE HAVE A VERY BUSY SCHEDULE IN DREW PARK.
9:45:58AM THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I WAS TELLING YOU WE HAD THREE
9:46:01AM CONSULTANTS.
9:46:02AM PRIMARILY WE WERE LOOKING AT MOBILITY AND CONNECTIVITY AND
9:46:06AM SAFETY CONCERNS FOR DREW PARK.
9:46:08AM WE WERE ALSO LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPE AND SAFETY AUDIT FOR
9:46:11AM GRADY AND LOIS, WHICH IS THE MAIN THOROUGH, ESPECIALLY LOIS
9:46:19AM FOR US.
9:46:19AM WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT PARKS, DEVELOPING THE LINEAR PARK THAT
9:46:23AM JUST MADE IT TO THE FIRST PHASE, WHICH IS IN TAMPA BAY, ON
9:46:27AM TAMPA BAY.
9:46:27AM AND THEN WE HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, WHICH IS REALLY THE
9:46:33AM ORIGINAL IDEA.
9:46:34AM THINKING 7, 10 YEARS AGO, TO REPLACE THE HUNTS PARK THAT WAS
9:46:40AM TAKEN WHEN THE AIRPORT MOVED INTO PART OF THE DREW PARK, AND
9:46:46AM WE LOST THE PARK THAT THE KIDS HAD.
9:46:48AM SO THE GOAL HAS BEEN TO GIVE THE CHILDREN, THE YOUNGER
9:46:53AM CHILDREN SOMETHING AND THE FAMILIES.
9:46:54AM SO WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
9:46:58AM IN MARCH, WE PRIORITIZED THE PROJECTS, AND IT WAS THE PARK
9:47:04AM FOR THE KIDS.
9:47:06AM AND THE SAFETY CONCERNS FOR CONNECTIVITY, WE DO HAVE A LOT
9:47:08AM OF PEOPLE THAT WALK THROUGH THERE.
9:47:10AM THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WALK TO GET THE BUS BECAUSE
9:47:13AM WE DO HAVE A RESIDENTIAL SIDE AS WELL AS WE HAVE OUR
9:47:15AM INDUSTRIAL PART.
9:47:17AM WORK REALLY WELL TOGETHER.
9:47:19AM THINK IT'S VERY UNIQUE AND BEAUTIFUL THAT THESE TWO
9:47:21AM COMMUNITIES WORK TOGETHER.
9:47:22AM SO THE SAFETY CONCERNS WERE VERY IMPORTANT AS WELL.
9:47:25AM AND THEN ALSO THE LOIS AVENUE AND GRADY TO MAKE THAT SAFE
9:47:31AM BECAUSE ONCE THE FIRST DESIGN WENT IN, NOW THERE ARE
9:47:34AM ADJUSTMENTS TO BE MADE AS TO WE HAVE A LOT OF TRUCKS AND
9:47:37AM SEMIS THAT GO THROUGH THERE.
9:47:40AM SO IT NEEDS SOME REPAIR.
9:47:42AM LAST MEETING HERE NOW IN APRIL, WE WERE ABLE AS A GROUP TO
9:47:49AM APPROVE SOME RECOMMENDED FUNDS THAT WILL EVENTUALLY COME TO
9:47:52AM YOU FOR THE CONNECTIVITY PROJECTS, FOR THE SAFETY CONCERNS
9:47:56AM AS WELL AS FOR THE LOIS AND GRADY AVENUE.
9:47:59AM OUR NEXT MEETING WE'RE GOING TO DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER
9:48:01AM INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK FOR THE FAMILIES AND THE
9:48:06AM CHILDREN.
9:48:06AM AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU TO GET APPROVAL.
9:48:09AM BUT WE HAVE MOVED HUGELY, AND WE ARE WELL ON OUR WAY.
9:48:13AM IT'S VERY AGGRESSIVE.
9:48:14AM THERE IS A LOT AT THE SAME TIME HAPPENING.
9:48:16AM SO WE DO APPRECIATE WHAT THE CITY STAFF IS DOING.
9:48:23AM AS YOU KNOW, WE REALLY COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT.
9:48:27AM MOST OF US ARE BUSINESS OWNERS AND WEAR TEN HATS A DAY.
9:48:29AM IT'S EVEN DIFFICULT TO GET TO THE MEETINGS.
9:48:31AM IT'S MOVING FORWARD WITH EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER.
9:48:36AM IT'S A LOT, GREAT, SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE.
9:48:39AM REALLY GOOD STUFF HAPPENING IN DREW PARK FOR THE BETTERMENT
9:48:42AM OF THE PEOPLE WORKING AND LIVING THERE, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT
9:48:45AM OUR MISSION SHOULD BE.
9:48:48AM AND WE'RE ON TO THAT.
9:48:49AM I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU OR BRING A COUPLE OF THINGS TO YOUR
9:48:55AM ATTENTION.
9:48:57AM THIS IS THE THIRD TIME I THINK OR FOURTH, DON'T KNOW HOW
9:49:01AM MANY TIMES, I BROUGHT THIS UP THAT I FEEL THAT THERE IS A
9:49:04AM TRAFFIC ISSUE WITH AIR CARGO ROAD THAT FEEDS INTO DREW PARK
9:49:09AM AND OUT OF DREW PARK INTO AIR CARGO ROAD.
9:49:12AM THERE IS A LOT OF RACING GOING ON.
9:49:14AM IT'S 45 MILES PER HOUR FEEDING INTO 25 MILES PER HOUR.
9:49:25AM MARTIN LUTHER KING IS 35 AND THEN GOES INTO HILLSBOROUGH,
9:49:29AM FROM HILLSBOROUGH INTO AIR CARGO ROAD.
9:49:31AM IT JUST MAKES NO SENSE.
9:49:33AM THERE ARE SOME TRAFFIC CONTROLS THAT CAN BE DONE TO HELP,
9:49:38AM YOU KNOW, THE STOP SIGNS BEING TAKEN, YOU KNOW, FROM PEOPLE
9:49:43AM RUSHING TO GET TO AIR CARGO OR AIR CARGO CUTTING THROUGH.
9:49:47AM REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE TRAFFIC FROM THE STADIUM, ALL THE
9:49:53AM GAMES.
9:49:53AM THE YANKEE GAMES.
9:49:55AM ALL THAT FEEDS INTO AND CONNECTING THROUGH AND PEOPLE TRYING
9:49:57AM TO GET THROUGH.
9:49:59AM I'VE BROUGHT THIS UP SEVERAL TIMES.
9:50:03AM FRANKLY, I HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY TAKE THE LEADERSHIP TO HELP
9:50:05AM US CONNECT WITH MOBILITY.
9:50:09AM ACTUALLY NOW CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE THERE IS A HUGE FACILITY
9:50:12AM THAT THE AIRPORT IS GOING ON.
9:50:14AM SOMEONE CORRECT ME, BUT I THINK TWO OR THREE THOUSAND
9:50:16AM EMPLOYEES GOING IN THERE, TRAINING FACILITY.
9:50:19AM SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO BE THINKING HOW THAT WILL IMPACT US IN
9:50:22AM DREW PARK, WHICH ARE LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET.
9:50:27AM SO THAT IS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
9:50:29AM IS THERE A TRAFFIC LIGHT GOING ON?
9:50:30AM ARE THERE CROSSWALKS GOING IN?
9:50:33AM I'M ASKING FOR SOME HELP.
9:50:37AM WE ARE A CRA, AND WE'RE HAVING A POTENTIAL ISSUE COMING UP
9:50:41AM TO US.
9:50:42AM WE ALREADY HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TRAFFIC, I BELIEVE.
9:50:44AM I'M ASKING -- I'M NOT ASKING FOR ANYONE TO STEP UP TODAY,
9:50:49AM BUT I NEED SOME LEADERSHIP.
9:50:50AM TO ADDRESS THIS AND BRING THE PARTIES TOGETHER WITH US AND
9:50:55AM FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THE PLANS, ARE THERE ANY BEFORE THIS
9:50:59AM PROJECT IS COMPLETED.
9:51:00AM OKAY.
9:51:01AM I ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE WAS RESTRUCTURING
9:51:07AM GOING ON WITH CITY STAFF.
9:51:10AM I JUST WANTED TO BRING OUT THAT YOU GUYS ARE THE CRA.
9:51:16AM WE ARE YOUR CRA ADVISORY.
9:51:17AM DO A LOT OF THE EVERYDAY WORK TO GET TO YOU.
9:51:20AM THE REAL EVERYDAY WORK IS DONE BY CITY STAFF.
9:51:23AM THERE WAS A RESTRUCTURING GOING ON, BUT I DON'T RECALL
9:51:27AM ANYBODY COMING TO THE ADVISORY BOARD TO ASK THEIR OPINION ON
9:51:33AM THE RESTRUCTURING OR EVEN EXPLAINING TO US WHAT THE
9:51:38AM RESTRUCTURING WAS ABOUT OR WHY IT HAPPENED OR WHAT IT IS.
9:51:40AM I THINK THAT WAS MISSING.
9:51:44AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:51:44AM WE MIGHT HAVE HAD A SUGGESTION OR TWO AND WE MIGHT NOT HAVE.
9:51:48AM BUT AT THE VERY LEAST, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED AND FELT
9:51:52AM INCLUDED BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THE CRA.
9:51:55AM WE'RE THE CRA ADVISORY.
9:51:58AM THE CITY IS CONTRACTED.
9:51:59AM SO IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE INCLUDE US WHEN YOU'RE MAKING
9:52:06AM CHANGES THAT ARE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT HOW WE WORK.
9:52:10AM WE'RE ALL GIVING UP OUR VOLUNTEER TIME.
9:52:12AM MULTIPLY AT LEAST MY TIME BY WHATEVER, 12, 13 HOURS.
9:52:16AM I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CRA HAS BEEN.
9:52:17AM OF COURSE, I HAVE TO GO OFF AND ON SOMETIMES.
9:52:20AM THAT'S A LOT OF TIME FOR BUSINESS PEOPLE AT LEAST IN THE
9:52:22AM DREW PARK AREA.
9:52:23AM BUT I KNOW IN THE OTHER AREAS AS WELL.
9:52:25AM EAST TAMPA, FOR EXAMPLE, I KNOW.
9:52:28AM WEST TAMPA, OF COURSE, AS WELL.
9:52:31AM SO PLEASE INCLUDE US.
9:52:33AM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A PRESENTATION.
9:52:34AM I BELIEVE EVERY CRA SHOULD HAVE A PRESENTATION OF WHAT THIS
9:52:39AM NEW STRUCTURE IS LIKE AND HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK AND BE OPEN
9:52:42AM TO SOME SUGGESTIONS FROM US.
9:52:45AM THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING US IS TO CONTINUE TO BE INCLUDED
9:52:48AM BECAUSE WE ARE THE PRINCIPAL.
9:52:49AM ANYWAY, I'M HERE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE GREAT THINGS GOING ON
9:52:53AM IN DREW PARK.
9:52:54AM WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.
9:52:56AM IT'S WONDERFUL.
9:52:59AM IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK WORK REALLY WELL
9:53:03AM WITH THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
9:53:04AM IT IS A UNIQUE AREA AND IT IS A HISTORICAL AREA FULL OF A
9:53:08AM LOT OF HISTORY, AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
9:53:11AM WE ARE MOVING FORWARD IN DREW PARK, AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY
9:53:14AM AND WE'RE WORKING WELL.
9:53:15AM ANY QUESTIONS?
9:53:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ANY QUESTIONS?
9:53:21AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
9:53:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING.
9:53:24AM REFERENCE YOUR CONCERNS, I KNOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF --
9:53:29AM WELL DEEP INTO THE PROCESS OF REORGANIZATION, AND THAT'S
9:53:32AM ALWAYS DIFFICULT.
9:53:32AM I APOLOGIZE IF IT FELT LIKE -- BUT THAT'S ALWAYS KIND OF THE
9:53:37AM PROBLEM IN GOVERNMENT WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO REORGANIZE.
9:53:39AM SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU EXPRESSED, I THINK PART OF THE
9:53:42AM STRUCTURE SHOULD BE, LIKE YOUR CRA MANAGER, GETTING THEM
9:53:45AM INVOLVED BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKE A CONDUIT FOR US.
9:53:48AM BETWEEN THE CRA, THE CAC, AND THE CRA, AND CITY STAFF,
9:53:53AM THAT'S KIND OF LIKE YOUR ABILITY TO FIND THE POINTS OF
9:53:58AM INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FOR ALL OF THE ANSWERS.
9:54:00AM AND THEN IF ALL ELSE FAILS, RUN INTO A ROADBLOCK, THAT
9:54:06AM DOESN'T WORK, THEN HIGHLIGHT -- BUT HOPEFULLY YOU ARE USING
9:54:10AM YOUR CRA MANAGER IN THAT WAY AND ALL THE CRAs ARE USING
9:54:13AM THE CRA MANAGERS IN THAT WAY, THAT THEY CAN -- I KNOW THIS
9:54:16AM IS NEW AND BEEN A BIG RESHUFFLING, A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACES
9:54:19AM AND ALL IN THE CRAs, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD ASK YOU TO DO,
9:54:23AM MAKE SURE YOU BRING THEM ON BOARD AND GIVE THEM THE
9:54:26AM OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE ANSWERS AND REPORT TO THE CACs.
9:54:29AM THEN THEY WILL BE BRIEFING US AS WELL BECAUSE WE HAVE A
9:54:31AM GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MANAGEMENT TEAM FOR THE CRAs.
9:54:35AM I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST KIND OF MANAGEMENT MODEL TO
9:54:38AM LOOK AT.
9:54:40AM >>MARITZA ASTORQUIZA: SEE, I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU'RE
9:54:41AM TELLING ME AND AT LEAST IN DREW PARK WE HAVE ALWAYS WORKED
9:54:45AM REALLY WELL WITH OUR MANAGERS, AND THEY HAVE ALWAYS
9:54:47AM RESPONDED WELL, AND THAT'S NOT WHAT MY ISSUE WAS.
9:54:50AM MY ISSUE WAS WE WERE LEFT OUT.
9:54:52AM THE OTHER THING IS, IF I HAD BEEN INVOLVED, THIS IS NOT THE
9:54:57AM FIRST TIME I'VE SAID IT HERE.
9:54:59AM HAVE TO LOOK AT FIVE YEARS AGO, SIX YEARS, I DON'T KNOW.
9:55:03AM I'VE SAID IT INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL.
9:55:05AM ONE OF MY SUGGESTIONS IS THAT YOU ALL HAVE A LIAISON THAT
9:55:09AM REPORTS BACK TO THE STAFF.
9:55:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE LIAISON IS OUR CRA MANAGERS.
9:55:15AM >>MARITZA ASTORQUIZA: I DON'T SEE IT THAT WAY.
9:55:17AM THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN, IN A RESTRUCTURING, I WOULD HAVE SAID
9:55:19AM THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SOMEONE, JUST LIKE YOU HAVE AN AIDE, TO
9:55:24AM CONNECT BACK.
9:55:25AM IT IS A SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE WOULD NOT HAVE FLOWN.
9:55:28AM MAYBE IT WASN'T GOOD, BUT IT STILL WAS A SUGGESTION, BECAUSE
9:55:32AM I SEE THAT MISSING BECAUSE WE REPRESENT -- WE PRESENT -- TO
9:55:37AM THEM, THEY PRESENT TO YOU.
9:55:39AM YOU GUYS YES OR NO.
9:55:41AM THERE ARE EVERYDAY ISSUES THAT PERHAPS AS A CRA BOARD YOU
9:55:47AM NEED SOMEBODY ASKING FOR YOU TO CONNECT BACK.
9:55:49AM ONE PERSON.
9:55:50AM JUST A SUGGESTION.
9:55:51AM I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME.
9:55:55AM I STILL HAVE MY SUGGESTION.
9:55:56AM AND IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN MAYBE A GOOD SUGGESTION.
9:55:59AM MAYBE IT IS A FANTASTIC SUGGESTION.
9:56:01AM MAYBE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE.
9:56:02AM BUT THAT IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY THAT WASN'T HEARD IS MY
9:56:06AM POINT.
9:56:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA AND THEN FOLLOWED BY
9:56:09AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
9:56:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, CHAIRPERSON.
9:56:11AM MS. ASTORQUIZA, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND MAKING A
9:56:16AM PRESENTATION THIS MORNING.
9:56:16AM YOU AND YOUR FAMILY HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME IN BUSINESS
9:56:20AM AND APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.
9:56:22AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT CARGO ROAD, I BELIEVE THAT STARTS TO THE
9:56:25AM SOUTH AT TAMPA BAY BOULEVARD, AS YOU MEANDER THROUGH ALL THE
9:56:31AM WAY OUT.
9:56:31AM AND THEN MAKE A RIGHT-HAND TURN AND YOU FOLLOWED IT ALL THE
9:56:36AM WAY THROUGH.
9:56:37AM ONE LIGHT AT MLK AND CARGO ROAD.
9:56:40AM FROM THERE ON, NO OTHER LIGHTS UNTIL YOU GET TO HILLSBOROUGH
9:56:43AM AVENUE.
9:56:44AM HOWEVER, WHEN CARGO ROAD WAS BUILT, THERE WAS NOTHING ON THE
9:56:48AM WEST SIDE OF CARGO ROAD.
9:56:50AM NOW YOU HAVE FROM FEDEX ALL THE WAY DOWN, TWO, THREE BLOCKS,
9:56:55AM BUILDINGS, I BELIEVE, AND A LOT OF ACTIVITY THERE.
9:56:58AM WHEN YOU GET NOW TO CARGO ROAD AND SOUTH, I BELIEVE THAT IS
9:57:02AM THE LOCATION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDINGS COMING UP, I
9:57:05AM DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE THERE, BUT IT IS HUGE.
9:57:08AM YOU HAVE TWO OR THREE BIG BUILDINGS THERE THAT ARE GOING TO
9:57:11AM HOUSE SOMEONE OR A LOT OF SOMEONES THERE IN THE VERY NEAR
9:57:14AM FUTURE.
9:57:15AM I BELIEVE THAT WE OUGHT TO START LOOKING AT TRAFFIC
9:57:18AM ENHANCEMENT BECAUSE ON CARGO ROAD AND SOUTH WILL BE YOUR
9:57:23AM POINT OF PROBLEM.
9:57:24AM AS SOON AS YOU COME OFF OF HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, YOU ARE
9:57:26AM RIGHT ON THAT THING.
9:57:27AM >>MARITZA ASTORQUIZA: ABSOLUTELY.
9:57:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME PROBLEMS THERE.
9:57:29AM I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.
9:57:31AM THEN AS YOU GO DOWN HEADING SOUTH, YOU'VE GOT THE TAMPA BAY
9:57:35AM BOULEVARD EXIT, AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.
9:57:41AM MLK EXIT, I SHOULD SAY.
9:57:43AM THAT'S IT.
9:57:43AM UNLESS YOU GO ALL THE WAY DOWN ALL THE WAY SOUTH TO TAMPA
9:57:46AM BAY BOULEVARD.
9:57:48AM THAT ROAD HAS BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY HELP TO A LOT OF TRAFFIC
9:57:54AM CALMING ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
9:57:56AM WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU TAKE IT OFF OF ONE PLACE, YOU'RE GOING
9:57:59AM TO BE SUPPLEMENTED SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND WE HAD A GREAT TIME
9:58:03AM FOR SOME TIME BECAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE BEING BUILT.
9:58:06AM NOW YOU HAVE ALL THE BUILDINGS COMING UP AROUND THERE.
9:58:08AM IN FACT, ON COOLIDGE AND MLK, YOU HAVE SOME BUILDINGS GOING
9:58:15AM UP THAT USED TO BE A PARKING AREA FOR SEMI DRIVERS TO LEAVE
9:58:18AM THEIR TRACTORS AND TRAILERS SO THEY CAN DRIVE.
9:58:23AM ONE, TWO DAYS OFF AND GO BACK ON THE ROAD.
9:58:26AM THAT WAS THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
9:58:28AM NEXT TO THE SPECTRUM BUILDING.
9:58:30AM NOW THAT'S GONE DOWN AND SEE JUST YESTERDAY, I NOTICED THERE
9:58:34AM IS A CONSTRUCTION AREA GOING THERE FROM ONE BLOCK FROM
9:58:37AM COOLIDGE AND I FORGET THE OTHER BLOCK'S NAME, ALREADY THE
9:58:41AM BLOCKS ARE ALMOST TO THE LINEAL SIZE.
9:58:43AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT THE WHOLE BLOCK FROM ONE BLOCK
9:58:46AM TO THE OTHER IS BEING BUILT.
9:58:47AM THINGS ARE HAPPENING.
9:58:50AM I REMEMBER WHEN YOU GOOD FOLKS WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY WITH
9:58:54AM THE PRIOR ADMINISTRATION IN THE PAST TO FIX LOIS AND GRADY
9:58:59AM WITH GRANT MONIES THAT WE HAD AND YOUR MONIES COMING IN.
9:59:02AM AND THAT MADE AN ENTRYWAY INTO YOUR CRA AREA IN DREW PARK.
9:59:07AM BECAUSE OF YOUR HARD WORK, ALL OF YOU INVOLVED IN THAT CRA,
9:59:12AM IT HAS MADE ENORMOUS PROGRESS.
9:59:14AM HOWEVER, PROGRESS BRINGS OTHER PROBLEMS AND THEY ARE CALLED
9:59:18AM TRAFFIC.
9:59:19AM SO WE HAVE TO, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE
9:59:23AM AT ONE TIME I -- I WORKED FOR MANY YEARS AND HAD TO TAKE
9:59:27AM THAT ROAD FOR 30 YEARS OR SO, HALF A YEAR EVERY DAY FOR FIVE
9:59:33AM DAYS OF THE WEEK.
9:59:34AM AND THERE WAS NO TRAFFIC.
9:59:36AM NOW IT'S A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
9:59:37AM I THINK THAT YOU'RE COMING ABOUT SAYING IT AT THE RIGHT
9:59:42AM TIME.
9:59:42AM IF WE DON'T ADDRESS IT SOONER BEFORE LATER, WE'RE GOING TO
9:59:45AM HAVE PROBLEMS ON THE ROAD.
9:59:46AM THANK YOU, AND I'LL TRY TO WORK WITH THE CRA TO GET SOME
9:59:49AM INFORMATION TO YOU BACK.
9:59:51AM >>MARITZA ASTORQUIZA: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:59:53AM APPRECIATE IT.
9:59:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
9:59:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT MY COLLEAGUE
9:59:58AM SAID AND APOLOGIZE IF WE MISSED ANY STEPS.
10:00:00AM IT'S NOT OUR INTENTION.
10:00:02AM I THINK NOT THE INTENTION OF STAFF.
10:00:04AM WHEN NICOLE AND ALIS TOOK OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, THEY
10:00:07AM WERE IN TRIAGE MODE TRYING TO TURN THINGS AROUND.
10:00:11AM THEY ALSO HAD LIKE TWO OR THREE JOBS WITHIN THE CITY.
10:00:13AM AND THEY HAD TO MAKE SOME FAST DECISIONS.
10:00:16AM AND WE WENT WITH THEM.
10:00:20AM IF WE MISSED STEPS ALONG THE WAY, I APOLOGIZE.
10:00:23AM THEN THEY BROUGHT IN MS. MOODY WHO IS TRYING TO CONTINUE
10:00:27AM WHAT THEY DID BUT ALSO REPOPULATE STAFF AND SET UP NEW
10:00:32AM STRUCTURES AND PROCESSES WITH THE HELP OF NICOLE AND ALIS.
10:00:36AM SO HOPEFULLY WE WON'T MISS STEPS GOING FORWARD.
10:00:40AM I THINK YOU SHOULD SEE A NEW LEVEL OF PROFESSIONALISM GOING
10:00:42AM FORWARD.
10:00:42AM BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES WANT TO
10:00:47AM REACH OUT TO US, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO THAT.
10:00:49AM WE'RE MOSTLY DISCOURAGED FROM ATTENDING THE MEETINGS BECAUSE
10:00:54AM WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ALL, BUT YOU ALL ARE WELCOME TO
10:00:56AM INVITE US OR CALL US OR E-MAIL US.
10:00:58AM IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE NOT INTERESTED.
10:01:01AM WE ARE VERY INTERESTED.
10:01:02AM AND I'M IN PARTICULAR INTERESTED IN YOUR AREA BECAUSE YOU
10:01:04AM ARE ADJACENT TO THE AIRPORT.
10:01:06AM I WANT TO ASK YOU TWO QUESTIONS.
10:01:09AM NUMBER ONE IS SIMILAR TO WHAT BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA WAS
10:01:12AM SAYING.
10:01:13AM I REMEMBER THE LAST AIRPORT DIRECTOR, THE AIRPORT BOUGHT A
10:01:18AM LOT OF LAND ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF DREW PARK OR WESTERN SIDE
10:01:20AM OF DREW PARK, EASTERN SIDE OF THE AIRPORT.
10:01:22AM I WONDER WHAT YOU SEE HAPPENING WITH THAT NOW.
10:01:25AM HAVEN'T HEARD UPDATES ON THAT.
10:01:27AM NUMBER TWO, IF YOU AND YOUR FELLOW ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS
10:01:31AM ARE SUCCESSFUL, HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE DREW PARK IN 20
10:01:36AM YEARS?
10:01:36AM 100% SUCCESSFUL, ABLE TO DO ALL THE THINGS, BUILD OUT THE
10:01:40AM VISION, HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE IT?
10:01:41AM ESPECIALLY AS BEING DIFFERENT THAN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS OR
10:01:44AM PARTS OF THE CITY OR REGION?
10:01:47AM >>MARITZA ASTORQUIZA: I WOULD ENVISION, KIND OF BASED IN
10:01:53AM VERY SIMPLE WORDS, TO CONTINUE THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA
10:02:02AM THAT WE HAVE RUN BY FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESSES,
10:02:08AM MULTIGENERATIONAL BUSINESSES, NEW FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESSES TO
10:02:15AM START THEIR OWN GENERATIONAL FAMILY-OWNED HISTORY AND
10:02:18AM LEGACIES.
10:02:18AM I THINK THAT'S PRECIOUS.
10:02:22AM I THINK IT'S A MAJOR CONTRIBUTION TO THE CITY.
10:02:26AM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THERE BE A SPACE FOR THESE TYPES
10:02:31AM OF BUSINESSES AND THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE
10:02:35AM FAMILY-OWNED MOSTLY.
10:02:36AM I ENVISION THAT TO CONTINUE, TO PRESERVE THAT, TO MAKE IT
10:02:43AM BETTER, JUST LIKE THE PROJECTS WE'RE WORKING ON AND FUTURE
10:02:45AM PROJECTS BECAUSE THESE AREN'T THE ONLY ONES THAT NEED TO BE
10:02:48AM ADDRESSED.
10:02:48AM SO I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE A CRA WITH TIF FUNDS TO
10:02:54AM BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THIS BECAUSE PRIOR TO THE CRA, IT HAD
10:02:58AM BEEN 40 YEARS SINCE ANY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS IN DREW PARK.
10:03:03AM 40, EXCEPT I BELIEVE A PROJECT WITH SOMETHING SMALL WITH
10:03:07AM STORMWATER BECAUSE IT WAS AN EMERGENCY BASE.
10:03:10AM WITH THE CRA, WE'VE HAD A MAJOR, LIKE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WAS
10:03:14AM SAYING ABOUT LOIS AND GRADY, THAT ALSO INCLUDED A STORMWATER
10:03:19AM PROJECT.
10:03:19AM I ENVISION THAT TO CONTINUE PRESERVING THIS AREA ALONGSIDE
10:03:26AM WITH THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
10:03:28AM RESIDENTIAL OVER HERE, INDUSTRIAL OVER HERE, AND EVERYBODY
10:03:32AM WORKING AND LIVING TOGETHER, SUPPORTING EACH OTHER, FEEDING
10:03:35AM INTO EACH OTHER.
10:03:37AM THAT'S WHAT I SEE IN 20 YEARS.
10:03:39AM I KNOW YOU HAD A FIRST QUESTION, AND I DO NOT REMEMBER IT,
10:03:42AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK IT.
10:03:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST ABOUT THE AIRPORT LAND AND IF THERE ARE
10:03:48AM ANY NEW PLANS FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
10:03:50AM AS ADMINISTRATION CHANGED OVER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE UPDATE
10:03:53AM IS ON THEIR PLANS.
10:03:54AM I KNOW CAE WAS LOOKING INTO GOING INTO PART OF THE LAND
10:03:58AM ACROSS THE FENCE.
10:03:59AM >>MARITZA ASTORQUIZA: I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF THAT.
10:04:01AM I'M SORRY.
10:04:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYTIME YOU WANT TO GIVE ME A TOUR, HAPPY TO
10:04:04AM DO IT.
10:04:05AM SURE OTHER COLLEAGUES.
10:04:06AM WE'RE ALL VERY INTERESTED IN WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
10:04:08AM THANK YOU.
10:04:08AM >>MARITZA ASTORQUIZA: WE APPRECIATE THAT.
10:04:09AM WE WILL TAKE YOU UP ON IT.
10:04:12AM THANK YOU.
10:04:12AM ANYTHING ELSE?
10:04:12AM EXCUSE ME.
10:04:17AM AS I WAS REMINDED, WHEN I WAS COMING UP HERE, WE ARE UNDER A
10:04:21AM TORNADO WARNING, AND SOMEBODY TOLD ME IT IS A SLIGHT
10:04:24AM POSSIBILITY.
10:04:28AM IT WAS YOU.
10:04:31AM OUT IN THE PARKING LOT.
10:04:32AM I APPRECIATE PUTTING ME FORWARD SO I CAN GET OUT BEFORE
10:04:37AM THERE IS A SEVERE TORNADO WARNING.
10:04:38AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:04:39AM ANYTHING ELSE?
10:04:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPORT.
10:04:42AM IT IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST ONE WHERE IT WASN'T THE FLUFF AND
10:04:46AM THE WONDERFUL, AMAZING THINGS HAPPENING IN DREW PARK.
10:04:49AM YOU EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS, STARTING OUT EVEN WITH DESIGN
10:04:52AM WEEK.
10:04:53AM THE PERSON THAT CAME BEFORE US DID SAY THAT EVERY CRA WAS
10:04:56AM INCLUDED.
10:04:57AM I'M LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR.
10:04:58AM THAT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE SO, THAT DREW PARK IS NOT INCLUDED
10:05:01AM IN THIS PARTICULAR CALENDAR OR AT LEAST IT DOESN'T STAND
10:05:04AM OUT.
10:05:05AM EVEN POINTING OUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
10:05:08AM IF MOBILITY IS LISTENING, ALSO SOUNDS LIKE THERE WERE
10:05:11AM CONCERNS AND ISSUES THERE THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED RIGHT
10:05:14AM AWAY.
10:05:14AM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:05:16AM ANY INVITATION TO TOUR DREW PARK IS WELCOMED BY ME AS A
10:05:22AM BOARD CHAIR.
10:05:23AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND ITS TRANSPARENCY BECAUSE
10:05:26AM YOU WERE ABLE TO SAY IT PUBLICLY, SO YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN
10:05:30AM DREW PARK WHO CARE ABOUT DREW PARK COULD HEAR WHAT YOU HAD
10:05:33AM TO SAY, STAFF COULD HEAR WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY.
10:05:35AM EVERYTHING IS NOT PERFECT AND YOU HAD THE COURAGE TO STAND
10:05:38AM BEFORE US AND TELL US THE GREAT THINGS HAPPENING BUT ALSO
10:05:40AM YOUR CONCERNS.
10:05:41AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.
10:05:43AM >>MARITZA ASTORQUIZA: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:05:44AM HAVE A GOOD DAY.
10:05:45AM BE SAFE.
10:05:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
10:05:49AM MOVING ALONG.
10:06:00AM >>COURTNEY ORR: COURTNEY ORR, CRA MANAGER FOR DOWNTOWN CORE
10:06:05AM AND NON-CORE.
10:06:06AM I'M GOING TO BE UPDATING THE PowerPoint PRESENTATION THAT
10:06:08AM WAS DELIVERED BEFOREHAND.
10:06:09AM WE FOUND A COMPUTATION ERROR IN THE 75% CONTRIBUTION COLUMN.
10:06:16AM UPDATED PowerPoint PRESENTATIONS TO PASS AROUND AND THEN
10:06:22AM ALSO SOME CLARIFYING LANGUAGE I THOUGHT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
10:06:25AM I'LL GO THROUGH AND BROADCAST IT HERE.
10:06:30AM FOR ITEM NUMBER 1, WE WILL BE DISCUSSING DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:06:44AM IT WAS A MOTION MADE BY THE BOARD, THIS BOARD TO HAVE STAFF
10:06:49AM COME BACK AND DISCUSS THE COMMITMENTS, FUNDING COMMITMENTS
10:06:53AM ALREADY IN PLACE AS WELL AS THE POSSIBILITY OF CONTRIBUTION
10:06:57AM REDUCTION.
10:06:58AM SOME BACKGROUND DATA ON DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:07:08AM IT DOES SUNSET IN 2043.
10:07:12AM THERE IS NO CONTRIBUTION FROM THE COUNTY.
10:07:15AM IT IS ALL FULLY PROVIDED BY THE CITY, AND THEN I WANT TO
10:07:21AM PROVIDE COMMITMENTS THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF, THAT THIS BOARD
10:07:24AM HAS MOTIONED IN REGARD TO FUNDING AGREEMENTS, FOR INSTANCE.
10:07:28AM AND THEN BUDGET, I'M USING 11% INCREASE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT
10:07:32AM THE BUDGET OFFICE IS USING FOR FISCAL YEAR '25 PROJECTIONS
10:07:38AM FOR CRA REVENUE.
10:07:39AM ON THIS SLIDE, YOU WILL SEE THE COMMITMENTS THAT ARE
10:07:48AM CURRENTLY IN PLACE.
10:07:50AM SPP, TAMPA CONVENTION CENTER, THE STRAZ, FUNDING AGREEMENT,
10:07:57AM TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART, TAMPA THEATRE, GASWORX.
10:08:01AM I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT GASWORX WILL HAVE MONIES PUT INTO
10:08:04AM THE TIF AND THERE IS A REIMBURSEMENT THAT WE WILL BE GIVING
10:08:07AM BACK FOR THE PUBLIC REALM INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:08:09AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:08:12AM SORRY.
10:08:13AM THIS IS FISCAL YEAR 24 TO 33.
10:08:15AM SO THAT SPAN OF TIME.
10:08:16AM SO WE PROJECTED OUT AT THE 30% OF THE TIF REVENUE FOR
10:08:21AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT'S CALCULATED THERE.
10:08:24AM TAMPA UNION STATION, WE ALREADY PAID A LITTLE MONEY OUT, SO
10:08:27AM WE'RE STILL COMMITTED TO 4 MILLION FOR THAT RENOVATION.
10:08:30AM SEPARATELY IS THE ART INSTALLATION ITEM OF 750,000.
10:08:35AM KID MASON PARK RENOVATIONS.
10:08:37AM THE COMMITMENT WE HAVE THERE.
10:08:40AM UNDERGOING, SHOULD BE COMPLETED IN LATE SUMMER.
10:08:42AM HERMAN MASSEY PARK, WE COMMITTED TO $2 MILLION.
10:08:46AM WE WILL SEND OUT A BID VERY SHORTLY TO DETERMINE WHAT IT IS
10:08:50AM THAT THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION WILL COST, BUT WE ARE
10:08:54AM PROJECTING 2 MILLION AT THIS POINT.
10:08:56AM JACKSON HOUSE WE COMMITTED A MILLION.
10:08:58AM AND THEN THE HISTORIC STREETCAR EXPANSION, 5 MILLION.
10:09:02AM THOSE ARE OUR TOTAL COMMITMENTS THAT WE FORECASTED FOR THE
10:09:08AM DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:09:12AM AND THEN ON THIS SHEET, I HAVE WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING IN
10:09:17AM REGARD TO ASKS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD TO THE CRA BOARD.
10:09:21AM SO THERE IS THE FRANKLIN STREET STREETSCAPE.
10:09:25AM AGAIN ALL ARE TBD BECAUSE WE AREN'T 100% SURE WHAT THE COSTS
10:09:29AM WILL BE.
10:09:30AM HARBOUR ISLAND BRIDGE, WAY FINDING FABRICATION AND
10:09:34AM INSTALLATION, YOU ALREADY APPROVED CONCEPT ONE FOR THAT
10:09:37AM SIGN.
10:09:37AM NOW WE HAVE TO DO THE FABRICATION AND INSTALLATION AND
10:09:41AM MAINTENANCE BID.
10:09:42AM HISTORIC STREETCAR OPERATIONS, WHICH IS SOMETHING WE ALREADY
10:09:45AM DO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS IN THREE SEPARATE CRAs.
10:09:48AM TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:09:50AM ANY WORK IN THAT REALM WE MUST DO.
10:09:52AM CURTIS HIXON PARK ABOVE AND BEYOND UPKEEP FOR CURTIS HIXON
10:09:59AM PARK.
10:10:03AM KYLIE GARDENS AND NORTH DOWNTOWN PLANNING, THAT IS SOMETHING
10:10:06AM THAT THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP HAS UNDERTAKEN THAT YOU'VE
10:10:09AM HEARD ABOUT AND WE DON'T REALLY QUITE KNOW YET WHAT WILL
10:10:12AM COME OUT OF THAT STUDY.
10:10:14AM HERE IS THE MAP OF GYMNASTICS.
10:10:24AM ON THE FIRST LINE, 2024, JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT 65 MILLION
10:10:29AM IS INCLUDING ROLLOVER FUNDS, SO THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS LIKE A
10:10:33AM SIZABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY BECAUSE WE DO KNOW WHAT THE ROLLOVER
10:10:37AM FUNDS WERE FROM FISCAL YEAR '23.
10:10:40AM 65 MILLION AND THEN WITH THAT OTHER SHEET, OTHER SLIDE I
10:10:46AM SHOWED EARLIER WITH THE COMMITTED AMOUNT, SO WE'VE TAKEN
10:10:49AM THAT OUT OF THAT FIGURE.
10:10:51AM WE DID NOT ADJUST 2024, ASSUMING THAT THERE WOULD BE NO
10:10:56AM CHANGES IN 2024.
10:10:58AM IF THERE WERE ANY CHANGES, IT WOULD LIKELY HAPPEN IN THE
10:11:01AM NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
10:11:03AM THAT'S WHEN YOU'LL START TO SEE THE MATHEMATICS OF
10:11:06AM CONTRIBUTION REDUCTION.
10:11:07AM IN THAT FIRST COLUMN IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE COMING IN AT 95%
10:11:12AM CONTRIBUTION.
10:11:12AM SO THAT'S OUR PROJECTED TIF REVENUE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AT
10:11:16AM THE START OF OCTOBER 1.
10:11:18AM OUR COMMITTED VALUES, THESE ARE WHAT ARE LOCKED IN AS FAR AS
10:11:23AM FUNDING AGREEMENTS, WHAT WE KNOW WE'RE COMMITTED TO
10:11:25AM PROVIDING IN THE WAY OF FUNDING.
10:11:27AM THE THIRD COLUMN IS WHAT WE ARE REDUCING TO A 75% CITY
10:11:36AM CONTRIBUTION.
10:11:37AM AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE
10:11:40AM OTHER AGENCIES THAT DO CONTRIBUTE NOT TO DOWNTOWN BUT
10:11:43AM CHANNEL DISTRICT, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 2, BUT WE DID NOT
10:11:45AM INCLUDE THE MATHEMATICS OF REDUCTIONS OF ANY OTHER AGENCIES
10:11:49AM THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE TIF, LIKE THE COUNTY AND THE PORT.
10:11:52AM BUT FOR DOWNTOWN, THIS IS THE 75% CITY CONTRIBUTION.
10:11:59AM SO A 25% REDUCTION.
10:12:01AM AND THEN THE FINAL FOURTH COLUMN IS 50%.
10:12:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN HAS A QUESTION FOR
10:12:23AM YOU.
10:12:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:12:25AM JUST FOR CLARITY SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, THE NUMBERS THAT
10:12:27AM YOU'RE PRESENTING WOULD BE LESS BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY AND
10:12:30AM THE PORT CONTRIBUTIONS WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN OUT OF THAT AS
10:12:33AM WELL, CORRECT?
10:12:34AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: DOWNTOWN, THE COUNTY DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE
10:12:36AM ANY INCREMENT TO DOWNTOWN EXCEPT FOR THE WATER STREET
10:12:39AM PROJECT.
10:12:40AM THAT WAS THE ONLY THING --
10:12:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S WHAT I WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE OF WHAT
10:12:45AM YOU WERE SAYING.
10:12:47AM SO THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE ACCURATE FIGURES.
10:12:51AM THANK YOU.
10:12:52AM >>COURTNEY ORR: I WAS REFERENCING CHANNEL DISTRICT.
10:12:55AM ITEM NUMBER 2 IS A DIFFERENT SCENARIO.
10:12:58AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:12:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: ARE YOU FINISHED?
10:13:01AM I WANT TO SPEAK WHEN YOU ARE FINISHED.
10:13:03AM >>COURTNEY ORR: THIS IS MY FINAL SLIDE.
10:13:06AM WE'LL SIT ON IT.
10:13:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:13:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANTED TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.
10:13:10AM WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
10:13:13AM I THINK WE ALL PROBABLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ON THIS.
10:13:17AM SO WE SHOULD PROBABLY JUST VOTE AND SEE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO
10:13:21AM DO.
10:13:22AM TO REITERATE SOMETHING THAT MORRIS JUST SAID, SLIDE NUMBER
10:13:29AM -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE -- NUMBER TWO WHERE IT
10:13:31AM TALKS ABOUT BACKGROUND, IT TALKED ABOUT HOW WE DON'T GET
10:13:35AM MONEY FROM THE COUNTY, BUT AS MORRIS JUST SAID, WE GET MONEY
10:13:40AM FROM THE COUNTY ON THE WATER STREET PROJECT OR SPP.
10:13:44AM CAN YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES TO THE CURRENT
10:13:47AM COMMITMENTS?
10:13:47AM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT -- COULD YOU SLIDE IT OVER
10:13:55AM A LITTLE BIT?
10:13:56AM I THINK IT'S CUT OFF.
10:13:57AM THANK YOU.
10:13:58AM THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE SIZE OF CERTAIN
10:14:00AM INVESTMENTS VERSUS OTHERS.
10:14:01AM THE SPP, WHICH IS WATER STREET, THAT WAS MADE YEARS AGO,
10:14:08AM PRIOR ADMINISTRATION, PRIOR CRA BOARD.
10:14:10AM BUT THAT TOTAL, THERE'S 15 MILLION LEFT OF THE CITY'S
10:14:16AM COMMITMENT, AND IT SAYS 50 MILLION TOTAL.
10:14:18AM THAT'S ONLY THE CITY'S COMMITMENT.
10:14:20AM TOTAL COMMITMENT WAS HUNDRED MILLION.
10:14:22AM YOU PUT THAT HUNDRED MILLION IN CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING ELSE
10:14:26AM AND THEN BY FAR THAT IS THE LARGEST INVESTMENT TO DATE.
10:14:33AM IT DWARFS EVERYTHING ELSE.
10:14:35AM SECOND IS THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:14:37AM THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE STUFF WE PAID IN THE PAST.
10:14:40AM THAT SAYS REMAINING 33.7 MILLION, AND THEN YOU CAN LOOK AT
10:14:44AM THE OTHERS.
10:14:45AM THE OTHER, STRAZ CENTER, TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART, TAMPA THEATRE,
10:14:49AM THOSE ARE CITY-OWNED PROPERTIES WHICH FOR THE MOST PART
10:14:51AM WE'RE PAYING 25% AND THEN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS MATCHING.
10:14:56AM TAMPA UNION STATION AND TAMPA THEATRE WE'RE PAYING A HIGHER
10:14:59AM PERCENTAGE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT -- THEY DON'T GENERATE AS
10:15:02AM MUCH REVENUE.
10:15:03AM ALSO, FACILITIES THAT THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATES IN.
10:15:09AM THE BIG ONE ON HERE, THOUGH, IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:15:12AM AM I CORRECT, THAT'S NOT A COMMITMENT?
10:15:14AM THAT IS BASED ON THE MOTION WE MADE FOR 30%.
10:15:18AM >>COURTNEY ORR: UM-HUM.
10:15:19AM RIGHT.
10:15:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SO 143 MILLION,
10:15:24AM OVER 20 YEARS OR 10?
10:15:26AM >>COURTNEY ORR: 10.
10:15:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: 10.
10:15:28AM LET'S SAY THAT'S 14 MILLION A YEAR.
10:15:30AM IF YOU GO TO THIS -- IF YOU GO TO THE COLUMN, SO YOU SEE
10:15:34AM THAT IF WE TOOK OUT 25% OR 50%, IT'S NEGATIVE FOR THE FIRST
10:15:38AM THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
10:15:40AM BUT IF YOU PUT THAT 14 MILLION BACK IN, WE'RE NOT NEGATIVE.
10:15:44AM AND SO WE CAN MOVE THAT MONEY OUT 50% OR 25%, WE CAN MOVE
10:15:52AM THAT MONEY OUT, AND WE CAN SPEND IT ON ANYTHING WE WANT.
10:15:56AM WE CAN STILL SPEND IT ON DOWNTOWN.
10:15:57AM STILL SPEND IT ON WHATEVER WE WANT TO SPEND DOWNTOWN.
10:16:00AM NOT RESTRICTED.
10:16:01AM RIGHT NOW RESTRICTED, ONLY SPEND IN DOWNTOWN ON CERTAIN
10:16:05AM THINGS.
10:16:05AM TAKE IT OUT WITH COUNTY'S APPROVAL, THEN WE CAN SPEND ON
10:16:08AM ANYTHING WE WANT.
10:16:09AM SPEND IS IN SULPHUR SPRINGS WHERE IT WOULD TAKE FOREVER TO
10:16:13AM GENERATE MONEY FOR CRA.
10:16:14AM SPEND IT IN NEW TAMPA AROUND THE USF AREA.
10:16:16AM SPEND IT IN EAST TAMPA.
10:16:17AM SPEND IT ON ROADS IN SOUTH TAMPA WHICH BADLY NEEDS IT.
10:16:21AM WE CAN SPEND IT ANYWHERE WE WANT.
10:16:24AM SPEND IT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:16:25AM MY ARGUMENT IS THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS MANY TIMES MORE
10:16:28AM EXPENSIVE IN DOWNTOWN THAN IT IS ANYWHERE ELSE.
10:16:30AM IDEAL WORLD, WE WOULD SPEND MONEY ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT
10:16:32AM IF WE COULD GET TEN TIMES MORE UNITS FOR THE SAME $143
10:16:36AM MILLION, I WOULD RATHER GET MORE UNITS BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE
10:16:40AM NEED UNITS, NOT JUST SPENDING SOMEWHERE.
10:16:44AM SO I THINK THE BIG ISSUE WITH THE DOWNTOWN CRA, THERE'S
10:16:52AM REALLY NO MORE SLUM AND BLIGHT.
10:16:53AM FRANKLY, THERE'S MORE SLUM AND BLIGHT IN PARTS OF SOUTH
10:16:57AM TAMPA.
10:16:57AM EVERYBODY THINKS ALL OF SOUTH TAMPA IS RICH WITH
10:16:59AM MILLIONAIRES.
10:17:00AM THERE'S NOT.
10:17:00AM LOTS OF POVERTY AND LOTS OF PLACES WHERE THERE'S SLUM AND
10:17:03AM BLIGHT.
10:17:03AM IT'S NOT FAIR THAT THE REST OF THE CITY IS SUBSIDIZING
10:17:06AM DOWNTOWN.
10:17:06AM THIS IS NOT DOWNTOWN'S MONEY.
10:17:08AM IT IS THE MONEY OF THE REST OF THE CITY.
10:17:11AM EVEN EAST TAMPA IS HELPING TO SUBSIDIZE DOWNTOWN.
10:17:13AM IT'S NOT FAIR.
10:17:14AM WE KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD CRIME ISSUES.
10:17:16AM WE NEED TO HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS.
10:17:17AM WE NEED MORE FIREFIGHTERS.
10:17:19AM WE NEED MORE FIRE STATIONS.
10:17:21AM WITH THE INCREASE IN MONEY THAT'S TRAPPED IN THE CRAs,
10:17:27AM DOWNTOWN IS NOT PAYING ITS FAIR SHARE OF ANY OF THOSE
10:17:29AM SERVICES.
10:17:30AM AND WE NEED TO CHANGE IT SO THE REST OF THE CITY IS NOT
10:17:33AM SUBSIDIZING.
10:17:34AM IT'S NOT FAIR THAT PARTS OF THE CITY -- EAST TAMPA --
10:17:38AM [INAUDIBLE]
10:17:40AM -- PARKS ARE FALLING APART AND NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT
10:17:44AM IT.
10:17:44AM SOUTH TAMPA, ROADS ARE FALLING APART.
10:17:46AM I WOULD MAKE A MOTION LATER TO EITHER CUT 50 OR 25 PERCENT
10:17:50AM STARTING IN 2027 OR 2028.
10:17:53AM IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WE NEED TO AT LEAST PASS A MOTION AND
10:17:56AM SAY WE'RE NOT GOING TO SPEND ANY MORE MONEY.
10:17:58AM IF WE WAIT FOUR YEARS BECAUSE WE ALREADY ALLOCATED MONEY,
10:18:01AM REMEMBER IF YOU PUT BACK IN THE HOUSING MONEY, THEY ARE NOT
10:18:04AM NEGATIVE.
10:18:04AM IF WE'RE GOING TO WAIT FOUR YEARS, WE SHOULD AT LEAST COMMIT
10:18:08AM NOT TO SPEND ANY MORE MONEY SO IT'S NOT TAKEN --
10:18:11AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO FOLLOWED BY BOARD
10:18:13AM MEMBER HURTAK AND THEN BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:18:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:18:18AM FOR THE KID MASON PARK RENOVATION, THAT STRUCTURE, WAS THAT
10:18:21AM ALL FUNDED BY THIS CRA OR DID ANY COME OUT OF THE GENERAL
10:18:24AM FUND?
10:18:24AM DO YOU KNOW?
10:18:29AM >>COURTNEY ORR: I KNOW WHAT OUR CONTRIBUTION IS.
10:18:31AM I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CITY'S CONTRIBUTION IS.
10:18:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'LL GET THE ANSWER.
10:18:36AM THE KID MASON IMPROVEMENTS, WAS THAT ALL FUNDED BY CRA OR
10:18:43AM DID SOME MONEY COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND?
10:18:46AM >> SOME MONEY DID COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, BUT I'M NOT
10:18:49AM SURE THE EXACT AMOUNT.
10:18:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S FINE.
10:18:52AM I WAS CURIOUS BECAUSE OF SOMETHING I HEARD MONTHS AGO.
10:18:54AM IT DOESN'T MATTER.
10:18:55AM IN REGARDS TO PUTTING A CAP ON THE DOWNTOWN CRA, AS COUNCIL
10:19:01AM MEMBER CARLSON WAS SAYING, REDUCING IT BY 25 OR 50 PERCENT
10:19:05AM BECAUSE WE AS A CITY CONTRIBUTE ALL THAT MONEY.
10:19:10AM IT'S NOT LIKE WHAT WOULD BE COMING UP WITH THE CHANNELSIDE
10:19:13AM OR CHANNEL CRA WHERE THE COUNTY IS -- YOU KNOW, IT IS A
10:19:18AM TOTALLY DIFFERENT SCENARIO.
10:19:19AM YOU'LL GET INTO THAT.
10:19:20AM IN REGARDS TO COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON'S COMMENTS, I
10:19:24AM UNDERSTAND REDUCING THE DOWNTOWN CRA SO WE CAN FREE UP MONEY
10:19:28AM AND SPEND IT ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY.
10:19:31AM REGARDING CHANNELSIDE, IT IS A DIFFERENT SCENARIO BECAUSE OF
10:19:33AM THE COUNTY'S INVOLVEMENT.
10:19:35AM BUT THEN AGAIN, THE DOWNTOWN CRA I THINK IS THE WEALTHIEST
10:19:38AM OF ALL THE CRAs AND HAS THE MOST MONEY AND I BELIEVE THE
10:19:42AM MOST UNCOMMITTED.
10:19:43AM WE HAVE MORE LEEWAY WITH THAT.
10:19:45AM I APPRECIATE WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON OR BOARD MEMBER
10:19:48AM CARLSON SAID REGARDING, WE CAN PUT THAT IN OTHER PARTS OF
10:19:51AM THE CITY.
10:19:51AM I KNOW IN THE AGENDA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:19:54AM IT TAKES TIME TO GENERATE REVENUE IN A NEW CRA.
10:19:58AM WHEREAS YOU WOULD HAVE THIS MONEY MORE READILY AND QUICKLY
10:20:02AM AVAILABLE TO MAKE INVESTMENTS AT A FASTER PACE.
10:20:08AM THAT'S REALLY IT.
10:20:08AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:20:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:20:11AM THANK YOU, MS. ORR, FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
10:20:14AM I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT, ESPECIALLY THE NUMBERS.
10:20:17AM AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING IT IN ADVANCE.
10:20:19AM IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL TO RESEARCH BEFOREHAND.
10:20:23AM MR. MASSEY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
10:20:25AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, MA'AM.
10:20:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHEN WE GO FORWARD AND IF WE DECIDED TO
10:20:33AM REDUCE A CONTRIBUTION AND WE GO TO THE COUNTY, CAN THE
10:20:40AM COUNTY THEN ASK FOR SOME OF THAT TAX MONEY BACK?
10:20:45AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES.
10:20:45AM I MEAN, KIND OF REFERENCE ALL THESE PRESENTATIONS, THERE IS
10:20:50AM AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY, COUNTY AND
10:20:53AM COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT ESTABLISHES THE TERMS
10:20:56AM AND CONDITIONS FOR THE EXISTING CRAs THAT BASICALLY SAY WE
10:21:01AM CANNOT CHANGE CONTRIBUTION LEVELS, EXPAND THE BOUNDARIES OF
10:21:05AM THE CRA OR EXTEND THE TERM OF ANY CRA WITHOUT THE COUNTY AND
10:21:10AM CITY ALSO APPROVING THOSE BECAUSE THAT AFFECTS THEIR TAX
10:21:13AM BASE AND THE CURRENT AGREEMENT.
10:21:15AM IF THE BOARD DECIDES THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY OF
10:21:18AM THESE REQUESTS, WE'LL HAVE TO GO TO BOTH THE CITY AND COUNTY
10:21:22AM AND ASK THEM TO REOPEN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WHICH MEANS
10:21:28AM -- COMES TO NEGOTIATION.
10:21:30AM I DON'T WANT THE BOARD TO BE SURPRISED THAT JUST BECAUSE THE
10:21:33AM BOARD WANTS TO ASK FOR SOMETHING DOES NOT MEAN THE COUNTY IS
10:21:36AM NOT GOING TO ASK FOR SOMETHING IN RETURN POTENTIALLY.
10:21:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT RIGHT NOW THE AGREEMENT WE HAVE IS THAT
10:21:44AM THE COUNTY HAS GIVEN UP THEIR RIGHT TO TAX MONEY WITHIN THIS
10:21:53AM DOWNTOWN AREA.
10:21:55AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THEY TAKE ALL THEIR TAXES FROM THE
10:21:59AM DOWNTOWN.
10:21:59AM THEY DO NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE TIF, EXCEPT FOR THE WATER
10:22:04AM STREET PROJECT, AND THERE IS A SPECIAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
10:22:07AM COUNTY, CITY, AND CRA THAT RELATES TO WATER STREET.
10:22:10AM AND THEY HAVE AGREED -- THE COUNTY HAS AGREED TO FUND UP TO
10:22:13AM 50% OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR WATER
10:22:16AM STREET, BUT WATER STREET TO A $50 MILLION CAP.
10:22:20AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN ONCE THE DOWNTOWN CRA CLOSES, WHAT WILL
10:22:23AM HAPPEN TO THE FUNDING?
10:22:28AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: ONCE THE CRA SUNSETS, THEN THE TIF GOES
10:22:30AM AWAY, BUT THEN THE REVENUES GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND.
10:22:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GETTING ALL THE TIF.
10:22:38AM IF THE COUNTY WERE TO ASK FOR MONEY BACK, WE COULD LOSE --
10:22:45AM BASICALLY, IF WE GET 20 MILLION, IF WE CUT IT BY 20 MILLION,
10:22:48AM THE COUNTY COULD ASK FOR 10 MILLION BACK.
10:22:51AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NO.
10:22:54AM LET ME KIND OF CLARIFY IT.
10:22:57AM DOWNTOWN, THE COUNTY CONTRIBUTES NOTHING.
10:23:01AM IF WE DECIDE, IF WE ASK TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT SO THAT THE
10:23:05AM TIF CONTRIBUTION FROM THE CITY IS REDUCED, THAT'S NOT GOING
10:23:09AM TO AFFECT THE COUNTY IN ANY WAY REGARDING DOWNTOWN AT ALL.
10:23:13AM BUT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE LARGER AGREEMENT, THEY COULD
10:23:18AM ASK FOR OTHER THINGS POTENTIALLY TO GIVE US THAT RIGHT.
10:23:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YEAH, THEY COULD GET THEIR TAX MONEY BACK.
10:23:25AM OKAY.
10:23:25AM I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY DON'T LIKE HEARING THE WORD "BUT"
10:23:32AM WHEN IT COMES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:23:33AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A HUGE ISSUE, AND EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE
10:23:36AM THE RIGHT TO LIVE EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY.
10:23:38AM WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN DOWNTOWN.
10:23:40AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH $140 MILLION GOING TOWARD IT.
10:23:43AM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
10:23:44AM WE NEED PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE DOWNTOWN AND WORK
10:23:47AM DOWNTOWN.
10:23:48AM IT'S ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL.
10:23:49AM I WOULD IN NO WAY SUPPORT ANY REDUCTION TO AFFORDABLE
10:23:52AM HOUSING WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CORE.
10:23:56AM THERE IS SLUM AND BLIGHT DOWNTOWN.
10:23:58AM NORTH DOWNTOWN, I JUST HAD A MEETING WITH THE PARTNERSHIP.
10:24:00AM THERE IS ABSOLUTELY SLUM AND BLIGHT IN DOWNTOWN.
10:24:03AM IN NO WAY WILL I SUPPORT A REDUCTION OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA
10:24:08AM BECAUSE OF THAT.
10:24:09AM BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO THINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL IN
10:24:12AM MY BELIEF, WHICH IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE SLUM AND
10:24:14AM BLIGHT THAT STILL EXISTS.
10:24:16AM IF THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN OFF THE BACKS
10:24:19AM OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I'M NOT OKAY WITH IT.
10:24:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:24:24AM BOARD MEMBER VIERA FOLLOWED BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA AND THEN
10:24:26AM BACK TO BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:24:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
10:24:31AM I ALWAYS SUPPORTED THIS IN THE PAST.
10:24:32AM I'LL SUPPORT SOME VERSION OF IT TODAY.
10:24:34AM WE HEAR A LOT OF THINGS.
10:24:37AM ALL WE'RE ASKING TO DO IS TO MERELY START TALKING WITH THE
10:24:40AM OTHER SIDE ABOUT CERTAIN IDEAS.
10:24:42AM THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE PROPOSED TODAY.
10:24:44AM I DON'T THINK UNLESS IF THE IDEA IS JUST AN ABOMINATION,
10:24:49AM ANYTHING HURTS TO TALK.
10:24:50AM I VOTED FOR THIS BEFORE.
10:24:52AM MY BIG CHALLENGE WITH THIS IS -- AND I'VE HAD SOME TALKS
10:24:55AM WITH STAFF ON THE HISTORY OF THIS ISSUE -- IS THAT WE'RE NOT
10:24:58AM GOING TO GET ANY BENEFIT FROM THIS FOR FOUR OR MORE YEARS.
10:25:01AM THAT'S WHAT BOTHERS ME A LOT BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN ON THE
10:25:05AM TABLE.
10:25:05AM I'LL GO THROUGH THIS SINCE 2020, THIS CRA HAS NEVER VOTED
10:25:10AM DOWN CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:25:12AM NEVER HAVE.
10:25:13AM WE HAVE CHANNELSIDE.
10:25:14AM I VOTED AGAINST THAT FOR THE REASONS I'LL TALK ABOUT
10:25:17AM WHENEVER THAT COMES UP.
10:25:18AM DOWNTOWN CRA, NOTHING IS FREE IN LIFE.
10:25:20AM THERE'S ALWAYS SOME GRAY, BUT I THINK THE BENEFIT OUTWEIGHS
10:25:23AM THE DETRIMENT OF SOME REASONABLE CAP ON THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:25:28AM CHANNELSIDE, GIVE UP A LOT THERE AS I KNOW WE'LL DISCUSS.
10:25:32AM OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE MADE A LOT OF COMMITMENTS IN
10:25:35AM DOWNTOWN CRA, MANY, MANY.
10:25:38AM SOME THAT I VOTED FOR.
10:25:39AM SOME I VOTED AGAINST.
10:25:40AM VOTED FOR KID MASON, PROUD TO SUPPORT THAT.
10:25:43AM INVESTED A MILLION DOLLARS IN THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:25:45AM WHENEVER WE CAN SPEND THAT, PROUD TO SUPPORT THAT.
10:25:47AM VOTED FOR THE FIRST $15 MILLION TO MUSEUM OF ART, YES, VOTED
10:25:51AM AGAINST $10 MILLION.
10:25:52AM VOTED AGAINST $25 MILLION FOR THE STRAZ CENTER WHICH CAME UP
10:25:55AM ABOUT MAYBE TWO AND A HALF, THREE YEARS AGO OR SO.
10:25:59AM CHECK WITH STAFF ON THE HISTORY BECAUSE, AGAIN, I WANTED TO
10:26:03AM MAKE SURE WHAT I'M SAYING IS TRUE.
10:26:04AM THE LAST TIME THAT WE VOTED ON CAPPING THE DOWNTOWN CRA WAS
10:26:11AM -- I THINK IT WAS AUGUST 13 OF 2020.
10:26:14AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:26:15AM I SECONDED IT.
10:26:17AM ALWAYS SUPPORTED THIS.
10:26:18AM CRA STAFF BE REQUESTED TO COME BACK BEFORE THE CRA BOARD TO
10:26:21AM PRESENT THEIR IDEAS ON HOW TO USE THE MONEY, GO INTO THE
10:26:24AM GENERAL FUND, CITY PLACED A CAP ON DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:26:26AM IT PASSED 4-3.
10:26:28AM WE NEVER SAW IT AFTER THAT.
10:26:29AM SO MY FRUSTRATION COMES THAT WE HAVE SPENT YEARS AND YEARS
10:26:34AM PUTTING FUNDS IN DOWNTOWN ON INVESTMENTS, AGAIN, SOME THAT I
10:26:39AM VOTE FOR, SOME THAT I VOTE AGAINST, RIGHT, THAT AREN'T GOING
10:26:42AM TO GO INTO NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:26:43AM HERE WE ARE GOING, OKAY, NOW LET'S DO IT AFTER WE SPENT ALL
10:26:47AM THIS MONEY AND CITY FOLKS AREN'T GOING TO SEE THE BENEFIT OF
10:26:50AM THAT FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.
10:26:52AM I BELIEVED IN IT FOUR YEARS AGO.
10:26:54AM I BELIEVE IN IT HERE TODAY.
10:26:55AM BUT LET'S DO SOMETHING TO YET THIS THING ROLLING FORWARD.
10:27:00AM I DO SUPPORT A DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:27:02AM I ALWAYS HAVE.
10:27:03AM MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT 7, HAS NO CRAs.
10:27:06AM I GET HEAT.
10:27:07AM TOOK HEAT IN MY FIRST CAMPAIGN SAYING I SUPPORTED DOWNTOWN
10:27:11AM CRA.
10:27:11AM I STILL DO, RIGHT?
10:27:12AM BUT DON'T STRETCH A DOUBLE INTO A HOME RUN.
10:27:16AM I THINK IT'S GOOD TO SCALE IT BACK A LITTLE AS COUNCILMAN
10:27:19AM CARLSON PROPOSED AGAIN TODAY, TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS
10:27:23AM GOING TO OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
10:27:24AM MY FRUSTRATION THAT I WANTED TO VOICE IS THAT WE COULD HAVE
10:27:27AM DONE THAT A WHILE AGO.
10:27:29AM I DO BELIEVE THE VOTES WERE THERE.
10:27:31AM INSTEAD WE CHOSE TO GO OTHER WAYS AND WE'RE SUFFERING
10:27:33AM BECAUSE OF THAT, RIGHT?
10:27:34AM IF WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF FUNDS AND
10:27:37AM THINGS THAT WE SPEND IN THE CRA, WE HAVE TO MEASURE IT AS TO
10:27:41AM WHETHER OR NOT IT COULD GO IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, WELL,
10:27:43AM WE'VE MADE THOSE INVESTMENTS, RIGHT, TO THE DETRIMENT OF
10:27:46AM OTHER AREAS IF WE BELIEVE THAT.
10:27:48AM AGAIN, I WILL VOTE FOR SOMETHING TODAY, 25% CAP, SOMETHING
10:27:53AM OF THAT NATURE.
10:27:54AM I'M JUST FRUSTRATED IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS THAT WE'RE NOT
10:27:57AM GOING TO GET THE BENEFIT OF IT UNTIL PROBABLY WHEN THERE IS
10:28:01AM ANOTHER PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION COMING FORTH ABOUT FOUR YEARS
10:28:04AM FROM NOW.
10:28:05AM THAT FRUSTRATES ME.
10:28:06AM I WANTED TO EXPRESS THAT FRUSTRATION, BECAUSE THAT REALLY,
10:28:09AM REALLY DOES BOTHER ME.
10:28:10AM AGAIN, LIKE I HAVE DONE BEFORE, LIKE A MAJORITY OF US HAVE
10:28:13AM DONE BEFORE, I WILL VOTE FOR SOME VERSION OF THIS TODAY.
10:28:16AM I DO THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.
10:28:17AM WE HAVE TO INVEST IN DOWNTOWN AND NO THRIVING CITY IS GOING
10:28:21AM TO BE TRULY THRIVING WITHOUT A RESIDENTIAL AND A ROBUST
10:28:25AM DOWNTOWN.
10:28:25AM I THINK THAT'S PIVOTAL.
10:28:26AM AGAIN, HERE, WE DON'T GIVE UP COUNTY DOLLARS LIKE WE DO WITH
10:28:30AM CHANNELSIDE.
10:28:30AM THAT IS A DISCUSSION I'M GLAD TO HAVE TO EXPLORE THE GRAY.
10:28:35AM ARE THERE GOING TO BE DOWN SIDES TO THIS?
10:28:36AM INEVITABLY THERE WILL BE.
10:28:38AM SURE THERE WILL BE.
10:28:39AM MAYBE NOT.
10:28:40AM BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH TALKING ABOUT
10:28:42AM IT.
10:28:43AM THAT'S WHY I'LL BE SUPPORTING SOME SORT OF MOTION HERE
10:28:45AM TODAY.
10:28:46AM THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
10:28:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:28:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
10:28:50AM APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.
10:28:51AM I WAS THINKING JUST EXACTLY HOW BOARD MEMBER HURTAK WAS
10:28:55AM SPEAKING ABOUT.
10:28:57AM WHEN YOU LOOK BACK -- WHEN YOU LOOK BACK, HISTORY WILL TELL
10:29:00AM YOU WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE IN A WAY.
10:29:04AM AND DOWNTOWN HAD EVERYTHING, INCLUDING GROCERY STORES BEFORE
10:29:08AM ALL THE HOOPLA AND MORRISON'S CAFETERIA, SEARS IN THE CORNER
10:29:13AM AND DOWN THE STREET, IN FACT, THE FIRST BUILDING THAT WAS
10:29:16AM BUILT WAS WAY BACK IN THE '70s, WHICH IS THAT REAL NICE
10:29:20AM LOOKING UGLY BUILDING CALLED THE STATE BUILDING RIGHT NEXT
10:29:22AM TO THE EXPRESSWAY.
10:29:24AM IT'S BEEN MODERNIZED LATELY.
10:29:26AM ACROSS THE STREET FROM WHAT?
10:29:27AM USED TO BE THE ARMY NAVY STORE.
10:29:31AM SUPPOSED TO BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:29:33AM YOU CANNOT HAVE ANY AREA OF ANY SIZE WITHOUT HAVING MIXED
10:29:40AM RACE, MIXED COLOR, MIXED INCOME.
10:29:42AM THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO DO EXACTLY WHAT BOARD
10:29:45AM MEMBER BROUGHT UP EARLIER, HURTAK, THAT YOU GOT TO HAVE
10:29:49AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT IN EVERYTHING WE DO DOWNTOWN
10:29:51AM THAT HAS TO DO WITH CRA DOLLARS.
10:29:53AM THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A COMMUNITY, A CITY
10:29:57AM THAT THRIVES.
10:29:59AM YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE ONE COLOR AND ONE INCOME.
10:30:01AM I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE --
10:30:05AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AUDIENCE NOW, THE AQUARIUM, THE
10:30:11AM AQUARIUM WAS DOING TERRIBLE YEARS AGO.
10:30:13AM WHY IS IT DOING SO GREAT NOW?
10:30:14AM WELL, THE NEW LEADERSHIP IS ONE.
10:30:17AM JUST AS IMPORTANT IS THE PEOPLE COMING DOWN TO VISIT TAMPA
10:30:23AM AS A TOURIST TOWN.
10:30:25AM THERE WERE NO SIDEWALKS IN THE '60s AND '70s BECAUSE
10:30:27AM THEY USED TO ROLL THEM UP.
10:30:29AM THERE WAS NO ONE DOWNTOWN.
10:30:30AM THE CONVENTION CENTER WAS A BIG LOSER.
10:30:35AM A DRAIN ON THE CITY'S MONEY DIRECTLY UNTIL WHAT?
10:30:38AM THE HYATT OPENED DOWNTOWN.
10:30:41AM THAT WAS 25 YEARS AGO.
10:30:43AM SEEMED LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY.
10:30:44AM AND NOW THE HYATT SPURRED OTHER HOTELS AND OTHER HOTELS.
10:30:48AM NOW YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH HOTELS TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.
10:30:52AM BUT YOU GOT TO HAVE A SUBSTANCE OF DIFFERENT CHARACTERS.
10:31:00AM DIFFERENT INCOME.
10:31:01AM THAT WAY YOU CAN GET TRANSPORTATION STARTED.
10:31:03AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM IF EVERYBODY
10:31:07AM IS OF THE SAME INCOME LEVEL.
10:31:09AM IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
10:31:10AM YOU MUST HAVE EMPLOYEES LIVE WHERE THEY WORK IF YOU WANT TO
10:31:18AM STOP DOING WHAT WE'VE DONE HISTORICALLY.
10:31:21AM ABUSE NATURE.
10:31:22AM AND THESE ARE THE THINGS WE DON'T TALK ABOUT.
10:31:26AM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND THE BIGGER PICTURE, NOT
10:31:29AM FOR TODAY, NOT FOR TOMORROW, BUT FOR MANY YEARS TO COME, WE
10:31:32AM HAVE GOT TO CHANGE THE WAY WE DO THINGS OR WE CAN'T SUCCEED.
10:31:36AM YOU CAN'T EXPAND THE EXPRESSWAY EVERY FIVE YEARS ONE MORE
10:31:39AM LANE.
10:31:40AM WE'LL ALL BE LIVING UNDER IT.
10:31:42AM SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I SEE THAT ARE NEGATIVE THAT I
10:31:45AM THINK WE CAN FIX, BUT YOU GOT TO DO IT A PIECE AT A TIME.
10:31:49AM THIS IS ONE AREA THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.
10:31:52AM IF WE DON'T DO IT, SHAME ON US.
10:31:54AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
10:31:54AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:31:55AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN WANTS TO RETURN TO THE MIKE.
10:31:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS MY FIRST TIME.
10:32:01AM I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE SLIDE.
10:32:02AM I'M SO GLAD I WAS ABLE TO SPEAK AFTER COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
10:32:09AM BECAUSE I KIND OF ECHO A LOT OF WHAT HE SAYS.
10:32:12AM INTERESTING TO LISTEN TO THE PERSPECTIVES BECAUSE I DRAW A
10:32:14AM LITTLE BIT FROM EVERY SINGLE PERSON, EVEN THE ONES I DON'T
10:32:17AM NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THE CONCLUSIONS.
10:32:19AM WE ALL COME AT IT WITH A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND KIND OF
10:32:22AM SEE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS AND THEN DRAW OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS,
10:32:25AM FINALITY OF IT.
10:32:28AM THE SLIDE UP HERE, 24, 25, 26 AND EVEN 27 IS MINIMAL AMOUNT
10:32:33AM OF MONEY.
10:32:34AM WE DON'T START GETTING INTO THE REVENUE, BIG REVENUES
10:32:40AM ENHANCEMENTS UNTIL FIVE YEARS IN.
10:32:41AM THIS THING SUNSETS AT '33.
10:32:45AM WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT MANY YEARS.
10:32:48AM ECHOING AGAIN WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID AND COUNCILWOMAN
10:32:53AM HURTAK SAID, IF ANYBODY IS NOT SEEING UNMET NEEDS IN
10:32:57AM DOWNTOWN, THEIR EYES ARE NOT OPEN.
10:33:00AM YOU GO THROUGH THE DOWNTOWN, NORTHERN DOWNTOWN AREA, CLEARLY
10:33:04AM WE HAVE SOME REALLY UNMET -- SIGNIFICANT UNMET NEEDS THERE.
10:33:09AM IT'S NO SECRET THAT I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT EXPANDING THE
10:33:12AM STREETCAR SYSTEM BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL BE TRANSFORMATIVE.
10:33:14AM IT WILL BE A MAJOR INVESTMENT THAT WILL RETURN MONEY BACK TO
10:33:17AM THE CITY.
10:33:19AM I DON'T FORESEE US BEING ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT SIGNIFICANT
10:33:23AM CRA CONTRIBUTIONS.
10:33:24AM THAT'S ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
10:33:29AM I WAS LOOKING AT AN EXAMPLE, PROJECTED PROJECTS.
10:33:32AM SOME OF THOSE THINGS I DON'T QUITE GET.
10:33:34AM I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH HARBOUR
10:33:38AM ISLAND.
10:33:39AM OTHER THINGS, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA DISCUSSED WE OWN THE
10:33:42AM AQUARIUM.
10:33:42AM IT'S AGING.
10:33:43AM IT'S GOING TO NEED SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
10:33:47AM WE'LL GO TO THE CHANNELSIDE, BUT ABOUT THE UNMET NEEDS.
10:33:51AM THE CONVENTION CENTER.
10:33:52AM OUR CONVENTION CENTER IS AGING.
10:33:54AM IT'S GOING TO NEED EXPANSION.
10:33:56AM WE'LL HAVE TO START LOOKING AT THAT.
10:33:57AM SOMEBODY WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
10:33:59AM IF WE START LOOKING AT THOSE TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS, SOMEBODY
10:34:02AM WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT.
10:34:03AM IT IS TO KEEP UP WITH IT.
10:34:06AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, THE CONVENTION CENTER IS A
10:34:09AM POSITIVE FISCAL IMPACT ON OUR BUDGET BUT WE HAVE TO INVEST
10:34:12AM IN IT TO KEEP IT VIABLE.
10:34:14AM YOU AND I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN STREETS,
10:34:19AM MARION STREET IS NOT ON HERE.
10:34:21AM MARION STREET IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO
10:34:23AM INVEST IN BECAUSE HART IS TRANSFORMING, REALLY ABANDONING
10:34:27AM SOME OF THAT USAGE.
10:34:28AM THAT IS A HUGE AREA THAT COULD BE REDEVELOPED.
10:34:34AM AGAIN, CREATE A TAX BASE THAT WILL RETURN THAT INVESTMENT.
10:34:40AM WE HAVE TO INVEST IN IT SO WE GET THE RETURN ON THE
10:34:43AM INVESTMENT.
10:34:43AM IT COULD BE A GREAT PLACE FOR HOUSING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:34:48AM THERE ARE A LOT OF UNMET NEEDS.
10:34:49AM I THINK THIS CONVERSATION -- I LOVE -- I AGREE WITH
10:34:52AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:34:53AM IT'S GOOD -- AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON -- IT'S GOOD TO HAVE
10:34:57AM THIS CONVERSATION, BUT IN THE END WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
10:35:01AM THIS IS LIKE BUILDING A HOUSE THAT YOU HAVE THREE WALLS AND
10:35:03AM HALF A ROOF AND SAYING WE'RE DONE.
10:35:05AM THE HOUSE ISN'T FINISHED.
10:35:06AM WE'VE GOT TO FINISH THE HOUSE AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.
10:35:09AM I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT THIS TODAY.
10:35:11AM IN A COUPLE OF YEARS MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT IT AGAIN AS WE SEE
10:35:14AM MORE MONEY COME IN AND SOME OF THESE UNMET NEEDS ARE MET, WE
10:35:19AM CAN REEVALUATE, BUT RIGHT NOW I DON'T THINK IT'S TIME.
10:35:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:35:22AM I WANT TO HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS MYSELF.
10:35:29AM YOU'RE THE MANAGER.
10:35:31AM DIRECTOR MOODY CAN YOU COME UP AND STAND UP HERE AS WELL?
10:35:34AM BECAUSE I WANT THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CRA STAFF
10:35:39AM WORKS NOT JUST IN THE MOMENT, BUT THERE ARE LONG-TERM PLANS,
10:35:43AM AND THERE ARE ALREADY THINGS SET IN PLACE AND FUNDING FOR
10:35:47AM THINGS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
10:35:49AM I THINK IT -- DOES IT GO TO 2043?
10:35:54AM >> TEN-YEAR PROJECTION.
10:35:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BUT IT IS 2043.
10:35:58AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS RECOGNIZED BY EVERYONE
10:36:01AM THAT'S LISTENING.
10:36:02AM WE HAVE PLANS FOR THINGS IN DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THERE IS SLUM
10:36:08AM AND BLIGHT AND OPPORTUNITY THAT STILL EXISTS.
10:36:10AM AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS NUMBER ONE.
10:36:13AM WE HAVE TO HAVE A MIXED DIVERSE FOLKS, OF PEOPLE LIVING IN
10:36:18AM DOWNTOWN.
10:36:18AM THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO THAT IS THROUGH THE SUPPORT OF THE
10:36:20AM CRA.
10:36:21AM BEFORE YOU SAY SOMETHING, DIRECTOR MOODY, ATTORNEY MASSEY,
10:36:26AM THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
10:36:27AM IF WE SUNSET, IF WE DECIDE THAT WE WANTED TO REDUCE MONEY
10:36:33AM WITHIN THIS CRA, THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT IS WITH THE
10:36:36AM COUNTY, RIGHT?
10:36:36AM THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY GIVE US ANY
10:36:40AM FUNDS BACK.
10:36:41AM THEY CAN GO IN A WHOLE OTHER DIRECTION, AM I CORRECT?
10:36:44AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: AGAIN, DOWNTOWN, THE COUNTY DOES NOT
10:36:47AM CONTRIBUTE.
10:36:48AM THEY WOULD NOT BE GIVING US FUNDS BACK, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO
10:36:51AM GO AND ASK THE COUNTY TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT.
10:36:53AM THIS AGREEMENT COVERS ALL THE REDEVELOPMENT AREAS, NOT JUST
10:36:56AM DOWNTOWN.
10:36:58AM I SHOULD POINT OUT NOT ONLY WITH THE COUNTY BUT WITH THE
10:37:01AM CITY AS WELL.
10:37:02AM TRIPARTY INTERLOCAL.
10:37:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WOULD YOU SAY THAT COULD BE A RISKY
10:37:07AM SITUATION FOR US CONSIDERING HOW CONSERVATIVE THE COUNTY
10:37:12AM COMMISSION IS?
10:37:12AM SLASHED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:37:14AM CONSTANTLY QUESTION THE ARTS.
10:37:15AM WOULDN'T WE BE PUTTING OURSELVES IN DANGER IF WE RENEGOTIATE
10:37:19AM THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THEM?
10:37:20AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THERE'S NO TELLING WHAT THE COUNTY MIGHT
10:37:22AM ASK FOR IN RETURN FOR A REQUEST TO AMEND THE INTERLOCAL.
10:37:26AM WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO AGREE TO WHAT THEY ARE
10:37:29AM ASKING FOR AND WE COULD STOP NEGOTIATIONS.
10:37:31AM THAT'S ONE WAY TO HANDLE IT IF WE DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THEY
10:37:34AM ASKED FOR.
10:37:35AM BUT I CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT THE COUNTY MIGHT REQUEST.
10:37:37AM I KNOW THE COUNTY IS, LIKE THE CITY, HAS A LOT OF NEEDS,
10:37:42AM CAPITAL NEEDS, RESURFACING ROADS IN SOUTH COUNTY, BUILDING
10:37:46AM NEW ROADS IN SOUTH COUNTY, EXPANDING THEIR UTILITY SYSTEM.
10:37:51AM SO BY DEDICATING PART OF THEIR TAX REVENUE TO OTHER CRA
10:37:57AM AREAS, NOT DOWNTOWN, BUT TO THE OTHER CRA AREAS, THEY MAY
10:38:02AM ASK US TO RELOOK AT THE PERCENTAGE THAT THEY HAVE TO GIVE TO
10:38:05AM THOSE AREAS.
10:38:06AM I CAN'T GUARANTEE WHAT THEIR ASK MIGHT BE.
10:38:08AM BUT THAT WOULD BE A GUESS.
10:38:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
10:38:10AM OVER TO YOU, MS. MOODY.
10:38:12AM ANY FORM OR NATURE OF DOING THAT, HOW WOULD THAT DISRUPT ALL
10:38:17AM OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE ASKED YOU ALL TO DO AS STAFF TOWARD
10:38:21AM THE FUTURE OF DOWNTOWN AND THE CRA AND WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY
10:38:23AM DOING?
10:38:24AM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU.
10:38:25AM APPRECIATE IT.
10:38:25AM THANK YOU, MANAGER ORR, FOR LEADING THE PRESENTATION.
10:38:31AM WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, ESPECIALLY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
10:38:34AM COMMITMENT AND SOMETHING CONTRIBUTE TO AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE
10:38:36AM IN DOWNTOWN, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, BUT
10:38:39AM IT'S REALLY LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL FOR DEVELOPMENT.
10:38:41AM AND IF WE CAN INCENTIVIZE A FEW MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR
10:38:45AM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS INVESTMENT, WHEN THE CRA DOES COME TO A
10:38:48AM SUNSET POINT FOR DOWNTOWN, THE IDEA IS THAT THE TIF REVENUE
10:38:51AM AND THE AD VALOREM WOULD BE SO GREAT THAT IT WOULD BENEFIT
10:38:54AM THE GENERAL FUND, BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AT-LARGE.
10:38:57AM SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE CRA CAN PLAY A ROLE IS TO
10:39:01AM INCENTIVIZE THESE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS AND TURN THESE
10:39:04AM MILLIONS INTO BILLIONS.
10:39:06AM WE TALKED ABOUT THE NORTH VISION PLAN.
10:39:08AM THE CITY OF TAMPA OWNS A LOT OF PROPERTY IN DOWNTOWN, SO WE
10:39:11AM DO HOLD THE KEY TO A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES AROUND SURFACE
10:39:14AM LEVEL PARKING LOTS, SOME OF THE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS THAT
10:39:17AM WE'VE SUPPORTED.
10:39:18AM SO THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL.
10:39:20AM AND IN THE LAST MEETING WE HEARD THE DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT
10:39:23AM PLAN CONSULTANT KITTELSON AND ASSOCIATES, COME, TALK ABOUT
10:39:27AM KEY PRIORITY AREAS.
10:39:28AM THEY HAVE 11 DIFFERENT THEMES.
10:39:30AM SO IT REALLY SPEAKS TO THE POTENTIAL IN THE PROJECTS THAT
10:39:34AM CAN HAPPEN IN DOWNTOWN.
10:39:36AM ALSO BE TEEING UP A FEW MOTIONS IN MY DIRECTOR'S REPORT
10:39:40AM AROUND FRANKLIN.
10:39:41AM WE TALKED ABOUT MARION STREET, THE NORTH END AND ALSO ALL OF
10:39:44AM THE POTENTIAL THAT ONCE WE SETTLE THIS CONVERSATION WE KNOW
10:39:47AM THAT DEVELOPERS WILL COME TO US AND WANT TO WORK WITH US.
10:39:52AM WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND THE MILLIONS I THINK ABOUT THE
10:39:55AM BILLIONS OF POTENTIAL HERE.
10:39:56AM AS WE CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION, I HAVE A COPY OF THE TIF
10:39:59AM CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
10:40:01AM AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ALSO UNDERSTAND IF WE DO
10:40:03AM SUNSET DOWNTOWN, THEY CAN GO AND REDUCE THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS
10:40:07AM IN OTHER DISTRICTS.
10:40:09AM SO THAT'S WHAT WE TALK ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE
10:40:12AM INTERLOCAL AS A TRIPARTY AGREEMENT IN TOTALITY, SO WE'RE
10:40:16AM HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS BUT UNDERSTANDING THEY COULD
10:40:18AM GO LOOK AT OTHER DISTRICTS AND RENEGOTIATE THE TERMS THERE.
10:40:22AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:40:23AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, BOARD
10:40:28AM MEMBER MANISCALCO?
10:40:28AM THEN WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO CARLSON AND THEN HURTAK.
10:40:34AM YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT ON FIRST.
10:40:36AM HURTAK AND THEN CARLSON.
10:40:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO IN REGARDS TO THE CAPPED PERCENTAGES,
10:40:42AM WE'RE LOOKING AT 75 AND THEN 50 PERCENT.
10:40:45AM BUT IN THE FIRST COLUMN IT SAYS REVENUE AT 95% CONTRIBUTION.
10:40:48AM WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT SMALLER INCREMENTS, LIKE 90%, 85%, SO
10:40:53AM IT DOESN'T IMPACT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:40:54AM IT DOESN'T IMPACT -- BECAUSE ONCE YOU SEE 2025 AND 2026 AT
10:40:58AM 75%, IT'S MINUS 8.3 MILLION, MINUS 5.7 MILLION.
10:41:03AM WHEN YOU ADD THAT UP, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
10:41:06AM WHERE CAN WE BE AT WHERE WE ARE NOT IN A NEGATIVE?
10:41:08AM FOR 2025, 95% IS 30.2 MILLION, ONCE YOU GET TO 75%, NOW
10:41:15AM WE'RE MINUS 8.3.
10:41:16AM WHERE CAN WE BE AT THAT WE DON'T GO INTO THE NEGATIVE WHERE
10:41:20AM WE'RE TAKING AWAY FROM HOUSING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME,
10:41:24AM FREEING UP SOME MONEY THAT CAN BE USED IN OTHER PARTS OF THE
10:41:27AM CITY?
10:41:27AM LIKE IS IT 90% CONTRIBUTION, 88%, 85%?
10:41:31AM WHERE IS A SAFER NUMBER WHERE WE ARE NOT JUST GOING FULL
10:41:36AM FORCE, 25% LESS OR TO 50%.
10:41:40AM >>ERICA MOODY: THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
10:41:42AM THE NUMBERS WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE MINUSSING THE COMMITMENTS,
10:41:44AM NOT NECESSARILY THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS THAT WILL COME UP.
10:41:46AM BUT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS KIND OF DOING IT IN A MORE
10:41:49AM INCREMENTAL WAY OF 5%.
10:41:52AM WE'RE TOTALLY OPEN TO DISCUSSION AND HAPPY TO HAVE IT WITH
10:41:55AM YOU ALL.
10:41:55AM BUT ANY TYPE OF CHANGE WOULD OPEN UP THAT INTERLOCAL
10:41:59AM AGREEMENT.
10:41:59AM I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHAT IS ON THE TABLE IS DO WE WANT TO
10:42:02AM OPEN THAT UP?
10:42:02AM LIKE ATTORNEY MASSEY SAID, IT COULD START WITH DISCUSSIONS
10:42:05AM AND THEN SEE WHERE THEY GO.
10:42:07AM IT'S REALLY A BACK AND FORTH AGREEMENT.
10:42:09AM DEFINITELY AN IDEA THAT WE COULD TEST OUT WITH THE FINANCIAL
10:42:15AM ANALYSIS, WHAT REVENUE WOULD NOT PUT US IN THE RED RIGHT
10:42:18AM NOW.
10:42:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BECAUSE WHAT I'M THINKING, ITEM NUMBER
10:42:21AM 10, POTENTIAL SULPHUR SPRINGS CRA, LET'S SAY THAT'S CREATED
10:42:24AM AND DONE, HOW MANY YEARS WILL IT TAKE TO GENERATE MONEY?
10:42:27AM WE CAN SAY WE FREE UP $5 MILLION WITH A SMALL PERCENTAGE,
10:42:32AM HOW MUCH TIME WOULD IT TAKE AND PUT THAT TOWARDS OTHER PARTS
10:42:35AM OF THE COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF CREATING A NEW CRA WHERE IT WILL
10:42:40AM GENERATE, TAKE YEARS AND YEARS TO GENERATE A MILLION --
10:42:43AM [ENCODER DISCONNECT]
10:43:08AM >>ERICA MOODY: -- THEY JUST REACHED THEIR MILLION DOLLAR
10:43:10AM BENCHMARK.
10:43:11AM IT CAN TAKE TEN YEARS TO GET TO FULL REVENUE.
10:43:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE TAKE THIS ROUTE, WE CAN GET TO A
10:43:16AM MILLION DOLLARS QUICKER, WHATEVER THE AMOUNT IS.
10:43:19AM >>ERICA MOODY: FOR SURE.
10:43:20AM AND IT WOULD BE RETURNED BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND AND AS WE
10:43:23AM WERE DOING RESEARCH ON THESE MOTIONS, IN THE OCTOBER 2020
10:43:27AM MOTION THAT WAS VOTED ON BUT DID NOT MOVE FORWARD, THE
10:43:31AM MOTION WAS FOR STAFF TO COME BACK AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS
10:43:33AM ON HOW IT COULD BE USED IN THE GENERAL FUND AND WE AS CRA
10:43:36AM STAFF CANNOT MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE GENERAL FUND.
10:43:39AM THAT IS THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF THAT.
10:43:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:43:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
10:43:43AM THE ONE OTHER THING THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT HERE IS
10:43:48AM THAT 2027 IS WHEN WE ALL LEAVE.
10:43:53AM SOME OF US CAN RUN FOR REELECTION, BUT WE'RE DONE.
10:43:56AM AND I ALSO DON'T BELIEVE IN HAMSTRINGING THE NEXT BOARD.
10:43:59AM I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
10:44:01AM I DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE.
10:44:02AM WE CAN HAMSTRING OURSELVES, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN
10:44:05AM HAMSTRINGING THE NEXT GROUP THAT COMES ALONG BECAUSE WE HAVE
10:44:09AM ALREADY COMMITTED THIS.
10:44:10AM THIS IS MONEY THAT THIS BOARD HAS COMMITTED.
10:44:13AM I BELIEVE IN THAT STRONGLY.
10:44:15AM WE CAN'T CUT THAT.
10:44:16AM WE HAVE SIGNED CONTRACTS.
10:44:18AM BUT I DON'T WANT TO HAMSTRING THE NEXT BOARD.
10:44:21AM THANK YOU.
10:44:24AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:44:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST A FEW COMMENTS AND THEN I HAVE THREE
10:44:28AM POSSIBLE MOTIONS.
10:44:30AM NUMBER ONE, TO THE COMMENT MY COLLEAGUE JUST MADE, ALL THIS
10:44:33AM DOES IS IT MOVES THE MONEY OUT TO THE GENERAL FUND AND BY
10:44:39AM CHARTER, WE SAT ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE, BY CHARTER,
10:44:43AM CITY COUNCIL DECIDES WHERE THE MONEY GOES.
10:44:44AM IF WE HAVE FIVE VOTES, WE CAN SEND IT WHEREVER WE WANT.
10:44:47AM FUTURE CITY COUNCILS CAN SEND IT.
10:44:49AM THE MONEY WILL STILL BE THERE.
10:44:51AM IT'S NOT LIKE THE MONEY IS NOT GOING TO BE THERE.
10:44:53AM THIS NOT THE SAME AS OTHERS WHERE WE'RE GETTING COUNTY MONEY
10:44:56AM AND WE'RE GOING TO LOSE IT.
10:44:57AM THIS IS CITY MONEY.
10:44:58AM THE CHOICE IS WHETHER WE CAN ONLY SPEND IT IN DOWNTOWN OR
10:45:01AM SPEND IT EVERY OTHER.
10:45:03AM IF YOU SET UP DOWNTOWN PROJECTS VERSUS PROJECTS ANYWHERE
10:45:05AM ELSE IN THE CITY, CITY COUNCIL CAN MAKE THE DECISION ABOUT
10:45:08AM WHERE THEY WANT TO SPEND IT.
10:45:10AM IF PRIORITIES DOWNTOWN, SPEND IT THERE.
10:45:13AM NOT AGAINST DOWNTOWN.
10:45:14AM IT'S GIVING CITY COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION OPTIONS.
10:45:16AM NUMBER TWO, IT WAS SAID.
10:45:17AM BUT THIS IS STILL 2043.
10:45:20AM THERE AREN'T ANY COMMITMENTS FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS.
10:45:22AM SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY FOR THAT
10:45:25AM 10-YEAR PERIOD, THAT FUTURE COUNCILS FROM 2033 TO 2043,
10:45:29AM FUTURE COUNCIL WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE, EVEN THOUGH WE CUT IT
10:45:34AM BY HALF, IT WILL STILL BE 2 OR 3 HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS
10:45:38AM THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SPEND AT THAT POINT.
10:45:40AM I'M ABSOLUTELY A THOUSAND PERCENT AGAINST DEVELOPER
10:45:43AM SUBSIDIES.
10:45:43AM THE WHOLE REASON I SUGGESTED SPENDING MONEY ON CITY-OWNED
10:45:46AM PROPERTY IS BECAUSE OF THAT HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS
10:45:48AM GIVEN TO DEVELOPER.
10:45:49AM GREAT DEVELOPER.
10:45:50AM GREAT SOLUTIONS.
10:45:51AM THE PUBLIC DESPISES SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPERS.
10:45:55AM THERE IS NOT A CASE WHERE YOU CAN ACCURATELY SAY
10:46:01AM ECONOMICALLY THAT YOU SPEND MONEY AND YOU GET A RETURN
10:46:04AM BECAUSE OF THE TAXES.
10:46:05AM LOOK AT MIDTOWN.
10:46:07AM THEY GOT NO SUBSIDY.
10:46:08AM IT'S NOT FAIR.
10:46:09AM IT'S AGAINST CAPITALISM.
10:46:11AM AGAINST FREE MARKETS.
10:46:14AM I DON'T BELIEVE IN DEVELOPER SUBSIDIES AT ALL.
10:46:16AM WE'RE -- IF WE END UP TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPER SUBSIDIES IN
10:46:21AM THE FUTURE, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT OF FEEDBACK
10:46:24AM FROM THE PUBLIC.
10:46:24AM IN 2020, YES, I MADE THE MOTION, FIRST, TO SUNSET CHANNEL
10:46:29AM DISTRICT.
10:46:30AM THAT I THINK WAS VOTED DOWN 6-1.
10:46:33AM I MADE THE SECOND MOTION BECAUSE WE RAN OUT OF TIME TO BRING
10:46:36AM BACK DOWNTOWN.
10:46:37AM I DIDN'T SCHEDULE IT UNTIL NOW BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK I HAD
10:46:40AM THE VOTE.
10:46:41AM SOUNDS LIKE I DON'T HAVE THE VOTES STILL.
10:46:43AM THE REASON WHY NEVER SCHEDULED FOUR YEARS AGO, BECAUSE THE
10:46:46AM CHANNEL DISTRICT ONE FAILED AND I FIGURED BASED ON READING
10:46:49AM THE LINE LIKE I DO NOW THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE VOTES.
10:46:52AM IF I THOUGHT I COULD HAVE DONE IT, I WOULD HAVE.
10:46:56AM INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, WE HAVE TO APPROVE CHANGES.
10:46:59AM NOT LIKE THE COUNTY WILL GET IT AND MAKE CHANGES AND WE'RE
10:47:01AM NOT A PART.
10:47:02AM IF THEY WANT TO CHANGE SOMETHING, THEY BRING IT BACK TO US.
10:47:05AM IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, WE SAY NO.
10:47:07AM IF THEY PROPOSE SOMETHING, OH, WE WON'T LET YOU HAVE THAT
10:47:10AM UNLESS WE CHANGE SOMETHING ELSE, WE SAID NO.
10:47:12AM IT'S UP TO US.
10:47:13AM A THREE-PARTY AGREEMENT.
10:47:15AM IF WE MOVE THE MONEY OUT, STILL SPEND IT ON DOWNTOWN
10:47:17AM HOUSING.
10:47:18AM WE COULD SPEND IT ON DOWNTOWN PARKS.
10:47:20AM SPEND IT ON ANYTHING IN DOWNTOWN.
10:47:21AM IT IS UP TO US TO MAKE THE DECISION.
10:47:23AM THE THING IS, DO YOU HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT IF IT WAS PUT UP
10:47:26AM AGAINST HOUSING IN OTHER PART OF THE CITY THAT WE WOULD
10:47:28AM STILL HAVE FOUR VOTES.
10:47:29AM IF YOU THINK WE ARE AND WORTH THAT, THEN STILL SURVIVE.
10:47:32AM NEXT IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IN THE MODERN ERA IS ABOUT
10:47:36AM NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT ABOUT DOWNTOWNS.
10:47:38AM PEOPLE ARE MOVING OUT OF NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:47:40AM SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT MOVED HERE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS ARE
10:47:42AM MOVING OUT BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE THAT WE DON'T HAVE
10:47:44AM SIDEWALKS, BROKEN SIDEWALKS.
10:47:45AM DON'T LIKE THAT WE HAVE ROADS THAT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE FROM A
10:47:48AM THIRD-WORLD COUNTRY.
10:47:49AM DON'T LIKE IT THAT OUR PARKS ARE FALLING APART.
10:47:51AM I'M TALKING ABOUT SOUTH TAMPA.
10:47:52AM I'LL TAKE YOU ON A TOUR OF SOME OF THE ROADS IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:47:56AM I'VE BEEN TO 101 COUNTRIES AND THEY ARE THE WORST I'VE SEEN
10:47:59AM IN MY ENTIRE LIFE ANYWHERE.
10:48:01AM IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE.
10:48:02AM WE KNOW THAT WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OTHER THINGS.
10:48:06AM WE NEED TO MOVE THE MONEY OUT.
10:48:07AM ALL IT DOES IS GIVE US OPTIONS WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
10:48:10AM MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE PUBLIC ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT ACCEPT A
10:48:14AM TAX INCREASE.
10:48:15AM IF WE HAVE THIS MONEY UP AGAINST ALL THE PROJECTS IN THE
10:48:17AM CITY, NOT JUST DOWNTOWN, IT WILL HELP US TO ALLEVIATE TAX
10:48:21AM INCREASES BECAUSE WE CAN MOVE IT AROUND.
10:48:24AM WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE NEED POLICE PROTECTION, FIRE
10:48:27AM PROTECTION, WE NEED ROAD REPAIRS, SIDEWALKS, ALL KINDS OF
10:48:30AM THINGS.
10:48:30AM WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS LOOK AT IT CITYWIDE.
10:48:34AM WITH THAT SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT MOTION TO MAKE
10:48:37AM IS.
10:48:38AM PROBABLY FAIL.
10:48:38AM I MAKE A MOTION FOR 50% AND THEN A MOTION FOR 25%.
10:48:41AM IF BOTH OF THOSE FAIL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DO NO NEW
10:48:44AM SPENDING FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, AT LEAST ABOVE A 50% CAP.
10:48:48AM BECAUSE THE NEXT COUNCIL, IF WE KEEP PROMISING MONEY IN THE
10:48:51AM FUTURE, THE NEXT COUNCIL WILL HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM WE HAVE.
10:48:53AM FIRST MOTION I'LL MAKE IS TO ASK STAFF TO GO BACK TO THE
10:48:57AM COUNTY TO ASK FOR A 50% CUT IN THE DOWNTOWN CRA MONEY FROM
10:49:04AM 2028 ON.
10:49:07AM I PUT 2028 ON.
10:49:09AM IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO CHANGE IT TO EARLIER, WE CAN.
10:49:11AM FROM 2028 ON TAKES AWAY THE ARGUMENT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE
10:49:14AM UPSIDE DOWN IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.
10:49:18AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION?
10:49:20AM THE MOTION FAILS.
10:49:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND MOTION IS TO PROPOSE THAT CRA STAFF
10:49:28AM ASK THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER A 25% CUT --
10:49:34AM >> SECOND.
10:49:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: -- STARTING IN 2028 OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:49:37AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD
10:49:39AM MEMBER CARLSON.
10:49:40AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:49:41AM DISCUSSION.
10:49:45AM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA FOLLOWED BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND
10:49:47AM VIERA.
10:49:48AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAYBE I'M CONFUSED A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'VE
10:49:52AM HEARD -- [INAUDIBLE] -- NO INTEREST IN DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:49:58AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE PERCENTAGE CONTRIBUTION OF THE CITY IS
10:50:00AM SET FORTH IN THE INTERLOCAL.
10:50:02AM FOR US TO REDUCE OUR PERCENTAGE CONTRIBUTION, WE HAVE TO
10:50:05AM AMEND THE INTERLOCAL.
10:50:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THEY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY AS FAR AS
10:50:08AM GIVING US ANY MONEY.
10:50:09AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NO.
10:50:10AM OTHER THAN WATER STREET.
10:50:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:50:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY.
10:50:20AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO SAID SOMETHING.
10:50:22AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, COUNCILMAN
10:50:23AM MIRANDA, THIS IS MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAVE TO OPEN UP
10:50:30AM THE ENTIRE INTERLOCAL WHICH JEOPARDIZES THE CRA
10:50:34AM CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE COUNTY.
10:50:36AM NOW, MY QUESTION, MR. MASSEY, WHEN BOTH PARTIES AGREE TO
10:50:43AM REOPEN THE AGREEMENT, CAN ONE JUST AFTER IT'S BEEN AGREED TO
10:50:47AM BE REOPENED, CAN YOU WALK AWAY OR HAVE TO GO TO IMPASSE?
10:50:53AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THERE'S NOTHING THAT I UNDERSTAND IN THE
10:50:55AM LAW THAT WOULD MANDATE THAT WE AGREE TO SOMETHING THAT THE
10:50:58AM COUNTY IS PROPOSING THAT WE FIND OBJECTIONABLE.
10:51:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU COULD -- ONE PARTY COULD SAY NEVER
10:51:05AM MIND.
10:51:05AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: BASICALLY, YES.
10:51:07AM THAT WOULD BE -- AND WE WOULD STILL BE COVERED BY THE
10:51:10AM EXISTING INTERLOCAL.
10:51:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK IT'S PREMATURE.
10:51:16AM AGAIN AS YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS,
10:51:19AM WE'RE IN THE NEGATIVES.
10:51:19AM SO MANY UNMET NEEDS.
10:51:21AM I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK CLEARLY STATED THE PROBLEM.
10:51:25AM I'M PASSIONATE ABOUT THE STREETCAR.
10:51:26AM I WORRY ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL JEOPARDIZING THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10:51:29AM BUILD THE STREETCAR IN DOWNTOWN.
10:51:31AM THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS IN HERE AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT I
10:51:33AM HIGHLIGHTED THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND.
10:51:36AM I HEAR COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S ARGUMENT.
10:51:39AM I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT ARGUMENT FROM THE NEXT
10:51:43AM COUNCIL AS WE SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY AS, AGAIN, AS WE
10:51:46AM MAYBE PUT THE FOURTH WALL ON THE HOUSE AND START FINISHING
10:51:50AM THE ROOF BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
10:51:51AM AS IT STARTS COMING A LITTLE CLOSER TO FINISH.
10:51:54AM I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET.
10:51:57AM I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS DISCUSSION IN FOUR YEARS.
10:52:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:52:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:52:03AM A COUPLE OF THOUGHTS I WANT TO GIVE, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO'S
10:52:08AM IDEA ON EVEN GOING LOWER TO SEE IF WE CAN GET SOMETHING I
10:52:11AM THINK IS VERY WORTHWHILE.
10:52:13AM I SECOND THIS.
10:52:14AM I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS.
10:52:16AM AGAIN, THIS CRA, LAST CRA, WHENEVER WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
10:52:22AM TO VOTE ON IT, SUPPORTED THE DOWNTOWN CAP, LIFTING IT,
10:52:27AM REFORMING THAT, BUT NOT CHANNELSIDE.
10:52:28AM AGAIN, BIG DIFFERENCE IS WE LOSE MONEY WITH THE COUNTY WITH
10:52:31AM CHANNELSIDE WITH THIS, THERE'S NOT MUCH DETRIMENT.
10:52:34AM WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT TYING THE HANDS OF FUTURE COUNCILS.
10:52:38AM I SEE IT THE OTHER WAY, WHICH THIS UNTIES HANDS.
10:52:41AM NO ONE IS GOING TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL GOING I WANT TO GIVE
10:52:44AM ALL THIS MONEY TO DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
10:52:45AM THEY TALK ABOUT ROADS IN NEW TAMPA, SOUTH TAMPA, SOUTH OF
10:52:48AM GANDY, WESTSHORE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
10:52:50AM AND EAST TAMPA.
10:52:51AM SULPHUR SPRINGS, ET CETERA.
10:52:53AM I THINK THIS HELPS TO UNTIE FUTURE GENERATIONS' HANDS IF
10:52:57AM DONE IN A CONSERVATIVE WAY, WHICH I THINK WE CAN GET THERE.
10:53:01AM THE WHOLE ISSUE -- I'M GLAD THE QUESTION WAS ASKED ON THE
10:53:04AM INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
10:53:06AM I DON'T WANT US TO TALK ABOUT OPENING THE INTERLOCAL
10:53:09AM AGREEMENT AS IF WE OPENED THE GATES OF HELL INTO THE EARTH.
10:53:12AM NO, NO.
10:53:13AM WE CAN SHUT THE DOOR.
10:53:15AM JUST A TALK.
10:53:15AM THAT'S IT.
10:53:16AM IT'S COOL.
10:53:17AM LIKE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN SAID, WE CAN WALK AWAY.
10:53:22AM THAT'S FINE.
10:53:23AM SO THAT'S NOT SOME HUGE REVOLUTIONARY ACT AT ALL.
10:53:29AM SOME THINGS WERE BEING MENTIONED ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS, IF
10:53:32AM THIS PASSED, SAY WE'RE GOING TO PASS THIS NOW.
10:53:36AM YEAR 2028, THE NEXT COUNCIL WILL GIVE MONEY TO SULPHUR
10:53:38AM SPRINGS, THAT HAPPENS, I'LL GIVE YOU A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
10:53:42AM THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
10:53:43AM WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT ONE LATER.
10:53:45AM AGAIN, THIS UNTIES HANDS.
10:53:47AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A REASONABLE THING TO MERELY PUT
10:53:50AM ON THE TABLE AND TALK ABOUT, THAT CAN BENEFIT THE WHOLE
10:53:53AM CITY, WHILE CONTINUING THE SUPPORT OF THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:53:57AM I SUPPORT IT.
10:53:58AM I'VE ALWAYS SUPPORTED SOME LEVEL OF IT.
10:54:01AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO GOING LOWER, WHY NOT?
10:54:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:54:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEAH, I WOULD SUPPORT A SMALLER NUMBER.
10:54:08AM 5% TO BEGIN WITH.
10:54:09AM MAYBE 10%, BUT NOT GO RIGHT -- THIS MOTION IS FOR THE 25%,
10:54:13AM CORRECT?
10:54:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
10:54:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT'S TOO MUCH TOO QUICKLY.
10:54:17AM I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT INCREMENTAL SO WE DON'T END UP IN
10:54:20AM THAT NEGATIVE, THAT MINUS 8.3 AND MINUS $5.7 MILLION.
10:54:25AM BUT AT THE SAME TIME FREEING UP SOME MONEY.
10:54:27AM WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO A SMALLER PERCENTAGE OR SET ON THAT
10:54:30AM 75%?
10:54:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A FOURTH
10:54:35AM VOTE.
10:54:36AM ANYBODY ON THE OPENING SIDE THAT WOULD SWITCH THE VOTE IF
10:54:39AM 10%?
10:54:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD SUPPORT A 10% CAP.
10:54:42AM I HAVEN'T DONE THE NUMBERS EXACTLY.
10:54:44AM IF YOU LOOK AT 95% CONTRIBUTION, 75% CONTRIBUTION, MEANING
10:54:47AM WE WOULD TAKE IT DOWN TO 90% OR 85%, IT WOULDN'T PUT US IN
10:54:51AM THE NEGATIVE FOR '25 AND '26.
10:54:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO SAID STARTING 2028.
10:54:57AM DON'T FORGET, THE MONEY IS STILL -- FUTURE COUNCIL CAN STILL
10:55:02AM SPEND THE MONEY.
10:55:04AM AS BOARD MEMBER VIERA SAID, WE'RE TAKING OFF THE
10:55:06AM RESTRICTION.
10:55:07AM THEY CAN SPEND IT DOWNTOWN OR ANYWHERE ELSE.
10:55:10AM JUST FOR FUN, I'LL AMEND MY MOTION IF THE SECONDER WILL
10:55:13AM AGREE, TO CHANGE IT FROM 25 TO 10.
10:55:15AM SO THAT WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD PROPOSE THAT CRA STAFF GO TO
10:55:18AM THE COUNTY TO ASK IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER REDUCING THE CITY'S
10:55:25AM -- SORRY, THE CITY'S CRA CONTRIBUTION BY 10% STARTING IN
10:55:30AM 2028.
10:55:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
10:55:32AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY -- AMENDED BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
10:55:35AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
10:55:37AM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA, YOU HAVE COMMENTS.
10:55:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YEAH, I HAVE A COMMENT.
10:55:40AM NOT EXACTLY ON THE 10%.
10:55:43AM ROADS.
10:55:45AM HAVEN'T FIXED ANYWHERE.
10:55:46AM NOT ONLY IN SOUTH TAMPA.
10:55:48AM SOUTH TAMPA IS IN TERRIBLE SHAPE.
10:55:49AM SO IS WEST TAMPA.
10:55:50AM SO IS SULPHUR SPRINGS SO IS EAST TAMPA.
10:55:54AM SO EVERY ROAD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:55:56AM HOWEVER, I BELIEVE MR. MASSEY, 500 MILLION, HALF A BILLION
10:56:00AM DOLLARS SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN BACK TO AND RECEIVED BY
10:56:03AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, DIVIDED BETWEEN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND
10:56:05AM PLANT CITY, TEMPLE TERRACE AND CITY OF TAMPA.
10:56:10AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: REDUCED TO ABOUT HALF OF THAT.
10:56:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LAWYER FEES.
10:56:14AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WELL, I GUESS SOMEBODY NEEDED SOMETHING
10:56:17AM MORE THAN WHAT WE DID.
10:56:18AM I CAN'T HELP WHAT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GOVERNMENT HAS DONE.
10:56:22AM THERE IS MONEY COMING IN, AND WE DO HAVE SOMETHING ADDRESSED
10:56:25AM IN THE BUDGET FOR THE ROADS.
10:56:27AM THE ROADS ARE GOING TO BE FIXED.
10:56:29AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES.
10:56:30AM AFT REFUND, ONLY ABOUT HALF OF THAT WILL BE RETURNED TO BE
10:56:38AM SPENT.
10:56:39AM MY UNDERSTANDING, IT MUST BE USED FOR RESURFACING PROJECTS
10:56:42AM WITHIN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:56:43AM I THINK D.O.T. IS THE ONE THAT WILL BE MAKING THE DECISION
10:56:46AM ON HOW THAT MONEY IS ALLOCATED TO WHAT PROJECTS.
10:56:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ALONG WITH THOSE THINGS, THERE ARE OTHER
10:56:54AM NEEDS FOR THE CITY.
10:56:55AM THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
10:56:57AM BUT ALSO BUDGETS COMING UP EVERY YEAR THAT ADDRESSES SOME OF
10:57:00AM THOSE PROBLEMS DIRECTLY.
10:57:02AM SO THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY RIGHT NOW.
10:57:04AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR.
10:57:05AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER -- NOT BOARD MEMBER, DEPUTY
10:57:10AM ADMINISTRATOR, ASSISTANT DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR ALIS DRUMGO,
10:57:13AM IS THERE ANY COMMENT YOU WANT TO MAKE ON THIS SINCE YOU CAME
10:57:15AM TO THE PODIUM?
10:57:17AM I FEEL LIKE YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
10:57:19AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN FOR ACKNOWLEDGING.
10:57:22AM FOR THE RECORD, ALIS DRUMGO, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR
10:57:25AM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
10:57:26AM I HEAR THE DISCUSSION.
10:57:28AM IT IS LIVELY.
10:57:30AM I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE REALLY CONSIDERING THE OPTIONS HERE
10:57:33AM TO CAP THE DOWNTOWN CRA.
10:57:36AM I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET TO THAT CAP.
10:57:42AM IT CAN'T BE FOR FUN.
10:57:44AM WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD THE CITY LONG TERM.
10:57:47AM THE ONLY PERSON SITTING AT THE DAIS WITH THE KNOWLEDGE AND
10:57:50AM WISDOM TO REMEMBER WHY CRAs WERE CREATED IN THE FIRST
10:57:53AM PLACE OVER TIME, AS COUNCILMAN -- BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:57:57AM I HEARD HIM IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS WHERE HE SAID THAT THE
10:58:00AM DOWNTOWN IS YOUR HEART OF THE CITY.
10:58:03AM AND PEOPLE ARE NOT STEPPING AWAY FROM THE HEART OF OUR CITY.
10:58:06AM JUST LESS OPPORTUNITIES TO ENGAGE.
10:58:08AM THE CRA IS HERE AND IT EXISTS SO WE COULD CREATE THOSE
10:58:12AM PRIVATE/PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS.
10:58:13AM THE HEART OF YOUR CITY, YOU CANNOT SEPARATE IT FROM THE BODY
10:58:16AM AND EXPECT EITHER TO SURVIVE.
10:58:18AM SO WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM
10:58:22AM THE HEART OF YOUR CITY, WHERE YOU STILL HAVE GAPS, WHERE YOU
10:58:26AM STILL HAVE UNDERDEVELOPED PARCELS, WHERE YOU STILL WANT TO
10:58:30AM SEE PROGRESS HAPPEN, YET WE WANT TO TAKE THAT MONEY AWAY
10:58:36AM FROM THE DOWNTOWN.
10:58:38AM THERE ARE STILL THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
10:58:40AM THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT USED TO EXIST BETWEEN HERE AND
10:58:43AM I-4, BETWEEN HERE AND 275, AND THEY NEED TO BE REBUILT.
10:58:47AM AND WE ARE HERE ATTEMPTING TO TRY TO REBUILD THEM THROUGH
10:58:51AM YOUR CRA.
10:58:52AM THOSE MONIES WERE DIRECTED SPECIFICALLY, GEOGRAPHICALLY TO
10:58:55AM THAT AREA FOR THAT PURPOSE.
10:58:58AM IF YOU WANT TO LINE UP ALL THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE SOUTH OF
10:59:02AM GANDY WHO GET FLAT TIRES FROM POTHOLES, I'LL GLADLY HELP
10:59:06AM THEM CHANGE THEM.
10:59:07AM BUT I TELL YOU THAT THE PEOPLE WHO SLEEP UNDER THE BRIDGE,
10:59:12AM WHO SLEEP UNDER THE UNDERPASSES, THEY NEED HELP.
10:59:15AM THOSE COMMUNITIES NEED TO BE REBUILT.
10:59:18AM SO WE NEED THE AFFORDABILITY IN OUR DOWNTOWN.
10:59:23AM WE NEED TO INTERCONNECT THE COMMUNITY.
10:59:26AM WE NEED TO REDUCE ALL THE BARRIERS AND STOP TRYING TO
10:59:30AM SEPARATE US FROM US.
10:59:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: MADAM CHAIR?
10:59:36AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: I'M NOT FINISHED, MADAM CHAIR.
10:59:38AM I WOULD LIKE TO BE ALLOWED TO COMPLETE MY COMMENTS.
10:59:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WOULD LIKE FOR STAFF TO COMPLETE THEIR
10:59:43AM COMMENTS.
10:59:43AM GO AHEAD AND FINISH AND THEN WE'LL HAVE FOLLOW-UP BY BOARD
10:59:45AM MEMBER CARLSON.
10:59:46AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS AN ASSERTION THAT
10:59:48AM THERE IS NO RISK TO THIS OTHER THAN THE CONVERSATION.
10:59:51AM BUT CONVERSATIONS TAKE TIME.
10:59:52AM THAT IS TIME THAT WE DO NOT HAVE AS WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO
10:59:55AM BUILD.
10:59:56AM THE MORE WE TALK, THE LESS WE'RE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH
10:59:59AM PRIVATE/PUBLIC PARTNERSHIPS AND WITH THE COMMUNITY TO HELP
11:00:02AM SET THE STAGE FOR THAT.
11:00:03AM AND NOW YOU SEE THE NUMBERS.
11:00:05AM WE'RE ALREADY FOUR YEARS IN THE HOLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT
11:00:09AM WITH A REDUCTION OF THE TIF.
11:00:11AM BECAUSE THE MONEY WOULD PUT US IN THE NEGATIVE.
11:00:13AM SO NOW THIS FOUR YEARS SHOULD BE UTILIZED TO PLAN.
11:00:16AM THIS FOUR YEARS SHOULD BE UTILIZED TO COME UP WITH THOSE
11:00:19AM PROJECTS, TO CHART THAT PATH, TO PUT THE CITY IN A BETTER
11:00:22AM PLACE IN ORDER TO RETURN THOSE DOLLARS TO THE GENERAL FUND
11:00:27AM LONG TERM.
11:00:28AM WE CAN'T SAY WE WANT TO BUILD COMMUNITY BUT THEN SAY WE
11:00:30AM DON'T WANT TO PARTNER WITH DEVELOPERS WHEN THEY COME THROUGH
11:00:33AM THE DOOR.
11:00:33AM WE CAN'T SAY WE WANT TO BUILD COMMUNITY BUT IGNORE THE
11:00:36AM PEOPLE IN THOSE SPACES.
11:00:38AM THEY NEED US.
11:00:42AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
11:00:43AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:00:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: APOLOGIES TO MR. DRUMGO.
11:00:48AM WE PAUSED, SO I THOUGHT YOU WERE DONE.
11:00:50AM THE SIMPLE THING ON THIS IS THAT INSTEAD OF -- WE'RE NOT
11:00:56AM IGNORING ANY COMMUNITY.
11:00:58AM WHAT WE'RE DOING IS OPENING THE MONEY UP TO ANY COMMUNITY.
11:01:01AM WE'RE GIVING THE CITY COUNCIL MORE FLEXIBILITY INSTEAD OF
11:01:03AM LESS.
11:01:03AM WE CAN STILL SPEND THE MONEY IN DOWNTOWN.
11:01:06AM BUT WE CAN SPEND IT IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
11:01:08AM SPEND IT IN EAST TAMPA, SULPHUR SPRINGS, WHEREVER WE WANT.
11:01:11AM MADAM CHAIR, COULD I JUST CALL THE QUESTION.
11:01:13AM I THINK WE ALL KNOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO VOTE.
11:01:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CALL THE QUESTION.
11:01:16AM IS THERE A SECOND?
11:01:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL SECOND TO CALL THE QUESTION.
11:01:21AM I'LL SECOND THE CALL OF THE QUESTION.
11:01:25AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
11:01:26AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:01:27AM >> AYE.
11:01:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OPPOSED?
11:01:29AM >> NAY.
11:01:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
11:01:30AM WE WANT TO HAVE COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:01:33AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL?
11:01:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN WE DO THAT AGAIN?
11:01:46AM WE'RE NOT USED TO CALL THE QUESTION.
11:01:49AM [ LAUGHTER ]
11:01:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
11:01:50AM SO WE'RE VOTING ON THE CALL OF THE QUESTION.
11:01:52AM AND THAT WAS SECONDED BY YOU.
11:01:53AM DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT?
11:01:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:01:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ROLL CALL.
11:01:57AM >>THE CLERK: HURTAK?
11:01:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:02:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
11:02:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:02:03AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
11:02:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:02:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:02:09AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
11:02:10AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION PASSED WITH CLENDENIN AND VIERA VOTING
11:02:15AM NO.
11:02:15AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
11:02:16AM NOW WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE BY BOARD
11:02:19AM MEMBER CARLSON, SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:02:22AM ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THIS ONE AS WELL.
11:02:25AM >>THE CLERK: CLENDENIN?
11:02:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
11:02:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
11:02:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
11:02:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
11:02:36AM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
11:02:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
11:02:39AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
11:02:41AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILED WITH CLENDENIN, MIRANDA, HURTAK,
11:02:44AM AND HENDERSON VOTING NO.
11:02:49AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
11:02:49AM THIS IS A GOOD MEETING.
11:02:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I MAKE THE THIRD?
11:02:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: EXCUSE ME, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:02:54AM BOARD MEMBER VIERA, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIM FIRST.
11:02:56AM HE WAS TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING AND THEN YOU CAN PULL UP.
11:02:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: MY COMMENT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE MADE ABOUT THE
11:03:01AM MOTION.
11:03:02AM I WANTED -- HARDWORKING STAFF.
11:03:05AM MR. DRUMGO SPOKE.
11:03:07AM THERE ARE NOT MANY PEOPLE WHO WORK IN OUR CITY GOVERNMENT
11:03:10AM WHO I RESPECT MORE THAN ALIS DRUMGO.
11:03:12AM HIS TEMPERAMENT, JUST WHAT HE BRINGS TO THE TABLE AS AN
11:03:17AM INDIVIDUAL.
11:03:17AM HIS LIFE.
11:03:18AM HIS VALUES.
11:03:19AM I VALUE HIM.
11:03:20AM I VALUE EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE AND I ALWAYS VALUE THE INPUT
11:03:24AM OF STAFF.
11:03:24AM OBVIOUSLY WE HAD A DISAGREEMENT ON THAT ISSUE, BUT I
11:03:29AM APPRECIATE THE PASSION AND I REALLY APPRECIATE A STAFF
11:03:32AM MEMBER PUTTING THEMSELVES OUT THERE WITH THIS CITY COUNCIL
11:03:35AM AND THIS CRA BECAUSE YOU PUT A LOT OUT THERE WHEN YOU PUT
11:03:39AM YOURSELF EMOTIONALLY, ET CETERA.
11:03:42AM I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE IT.
11:03:44AM THAT'S ALL.
11:03:44AM THANK YOU.
11:03:46AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:03:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:03:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
11:03:49AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN, YES, SIR, I APOLOGIZE.
11:03:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I JUST WANT, BECAUSE I THINK WE'LL STILL
11:03:55AM TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE I THINK YOU'LL
11:03:57AM HAVE A SECOND MOTION.
11:03:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:03:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO WE'RE DONE?
11:04:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: IT SEEMS LIKE -- THE THIRD MOTION I WAS
11:04:04AM GOING TO MAKE WAS TO SAY IF THE REASON THAT YOU ALL DIDN'T
11:04:07AM WANT TO PASS THIS IS BECAUSE WE WILL BE UPSIDE DOWN FOR FOUR
11:04:09AM YEARS, I WOULD PROPOSE A MOTION TO CUT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T
11:04:13AM HAVE ANY MORE FUNDING.
11:04:15AM BUT THAT WAS NOT YOUR ARGUMENT SO I'LL DROP THAT MOTION.
11:04:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST TO WRAP THIS UP AND FOR THE PUBLIC
11:04:20AM THAT'S LISTENING ABOUT THE CRA, BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS THAT
11:04:23AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID IS TRUE.
11:04:25AM SO MANY UNMET NEEDS AROUND THE CITY.
11:04:27AM I RAN ON THAT.
11:04:29AM PAVE THE DANG ROADS.
11:04:32AM GOING INTO FISCAL YEAR 25 WHEN WE MEET AS A COUNCIL, I'M
11:04:37AM REALLY HOPING THIS COUNCIL PUTS MORE MONEY TOWARDS PAVING
11:04:39AM THE ROADS, AND THE SIDEWALKS.
11:04:41AM IT IS A HUGE UNMET NEED ACROSS THE CITY.
11:04:44AM 100% WE HAVE TO DO THAT.
11:04:47AM WE'LL HAVE TO FIND THE MONEY IN OTHER PLACES.
11:04:49AM BUT THERE'S ALSO UNMET NEEDS IN DOWNTOWN.
11:04:51AM THE HOUSING PART, THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL PURCHASED LAND, THE
11:04:56AM SALVATION ARMY LAND.
11:04:58AM WE'VE GOT A PROPOSAL THAT WILL BE COMING BACK BEFORE COUNCIL
11:05:00AM ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT.
11:05:01AM I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT PROJECT.
11:05:04AM IT'S A CRITICAL ELEMENT.
11:05:06AM IT'S IN A PERFECT PLACE.
11:05:08AM I'M HOPING IT WILL COME FORTH BECAUSE WE ARE ASKED ABOUT
11:05:12AM HAVING HOUSING FOR STUDENTS.
11:05:13AM THE CONSERVATORY FROM THE STRAZ.
11:05:16AM HOPE THAT'S INCLUDED.
11:05:18AM NO OTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.
11:05:20AM PERFECT PLACE, GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
11:05:22AM HAVE STUDENTS, MIXED INCOME, AN ELEMENT ABLE TO AFFORD TO
11:05:26AM LIVE IN DOWNTOWN THAT CURRENTLY CAN'T DO THAT NOW.
11:05:29AM THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS.
11:05:31AM THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS I'M SUPPORTING THIS.
11:05:34AM WE DO HAVE A LOT OF UNMET NEEDS.
11:05:36AM TRANSPORTATION, THE STREETCAR.
11:05:38AM THE STREETCAR IS GOING TO TRANSFORM NORTHERN DOWNTOWN GOING
11:05:42AM UP INTO TAMPA HEIGHTS.
11:05:43AM IT IS GOING TO COST MONEY.
11:05:45AM THIS BOARD AND THEN WE MEET AS COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO
11:05:48AM DEVOTE MONEY TO IT.
11:05:49AM SOME OF THE MONEY, UNSPENT MONEY, GUARANTEE YOU WE'LL HAVE
11:05:53AM TO START LOOKING THERE.
11:05:54AM ALL THAT UNDEVELOPED LAND, THAT AREA BETWEEN WHAT IS
11:05:56AM DEVELOPED NOW BETWEEN DOWNTOWN AND THE INTERSTATE, PART OF
11:05:59AM THE CRA, THERE'S GOING TO REQUIRE INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:06:02AM GOING TO REQUIRE RECONNECTING STREETS AND SIDEWALKS AND
11:06:06AM LIGHTING AND A LOT OF THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN THERE.
11:06:09AM THE CONVENTION CENTER, THE AQUARIUM.
11:06:11AM NOT AQUARIUM.
11:06:13AM SORRY.
11:06:13AM THAT'S CHANNELSIDE.
11:06:14AM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING DOWNTOWN.
11:06:16AM MARION STREET.
11:06:17AM I WANT TO KEEP THAT ON THE TIP OF PEOPLE'S TONGUES.
11:06:19AM MARION STREET WILL BE TRANSFORMATIONAL FOR ANOTHER KEY AREA
11:06:23AM OF DOWNTOWN.
11:06:25AM WE INVEST IN IT AND WE'RE GOING TO GET A RETURN ON THAT
11:06:28AM INVESTMENT FROM THE CITY.
11:06:29AM PEOPLE WILL THANK US FOR WHAT WE DO.
11:06:31AM IF WE KEEP THAT ON THE TIP OF OUR TONGUES AND THINK ABOUT
11:06:34AM THAT.
11:06:34AM A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING IN DOWNTOWN.
11:06:36AM EXCITING PLACE TO BE.
11:06:37AM IT IS THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY, AND IT'S NOT TIME TO PULL
11:06:39AM THE RUG OUT FROM UNDER IT YET.
11:06:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:06:44AM ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON?
11:06:46AM OKAY.
11:06:50AM YOU HAVE MORE.
11:06:52AM >>COURTNEY ORR: NOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION
11:06:58AM ABOUT THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA.
11:06:59AM AGAIN, SAME INFORMATION I'M PROVIDING IN RESPONSE TO THE CRA
11:07:13AM BOARD MOTIONS TO REDUCE THE CONTRIBUTION TO THE CHANNEL
11:07:16AM DISTRICT CRA, AND THEN WHAT THOSE REDUCTION SCENARIOS LOOK
11:07:21AM LIKE.
11:07:21AM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT SUNSETS IN 2034.
11:07:30AM AS YOU SEE, THERE IS A CONTRIBUTION FROM THE PORT AND THE
11:07:33AM COUNTY INTO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA.
11:07:37AM AGAIN, I'M GOING TO BE PROVIDING THOSE COMMITMENTS THAT ARE
11:07:41AM SECURED IN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT WITH PROJECTED 11% ANNUAL
11:07:47AM REVENUE INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR.
11:07:49AM SO THESE ARE THE COMMITMENTS WITHIN THE CHANNEL DISTRICT
11:07:57AM THAT EITHER MEET THE CRA OBJECTIVES SUCH AS AFFORDABLE
11:08:01AM HOUSING OR ACTUAL CONTRACTS THAT ARE DRAFTED AND WRITTEN.
11:08:07AM SO WE HAVE RIVERWALK BENEFICIAL BRIDGE STUDY.
11:08:13AM WE CAN ANTICIPATE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY GOING INTO
11:08:16AM THAT AFTER THE STUDY IS COMPLETED.
11:08:18AM RIGHT NOW, THAT'S A MINOR INVESTMENT FOR THE STUDY IN ORDER
11:08:22AM TO FIND OUT WHAT WOULD THE PRICE TAG BE FOR THE CONNECTION
11:08:25AM OF THE RIVERWALK AT THAT LOCATION.
11:08:28AM SO THAT WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN THAT INVESTMENT,
11:08:32AM SAME WITH WASHINGTON STREET PARK.
11:08:33AM WE'RE LOOKING AT IT POSSIBLY AROUND A $5 MILLION
11:08:38AM CONTRIBUTION TO THE RENOVATION OF WASHINGTON STREET PARK.
11:08:41AM WE HAVE ONLY GOTTEN TO THE DESIGN -- SORRY, THE CONCEPTUAL
11:08:44AM PHASE AT THIS STAGE.
11:08:45AM SO THERE WILL BE NECESSARY MONEY ADDED TO THAT 1.5 MILLION
11:08:52AM FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE CONSTRUCTION.
11:08:53AM CHANNELSIDE DRIVE URBAN PARK.
11:08:56AM AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ACQUIRED 810 CHANNELSIDE DRIVE FOR THE
11:08:59AM INTENTION TO CREATE AN URBAN PARK.
11:09:02AM AND BASED ON OTHER COMPARABLE PARKS IN THE CITY, WE CAN
11:09:06AM GUESS THAT THAT PARK CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN
11:09:10AM THREE AND FOUR MILLION DOLLARS.
11:09:11AM SO THAT WOULD BE AN INVESTMENT THAT WE HAVE NOT REALIZED
11:09:17AM YET.
11:09:17AM THE LANDSCAPING IS A NEW CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE.
11:09:21AM THAT'S PROJECTED OUT OVER TEN YEARS.
11:09:24AM AGAIN, FISCAL YEAR 24 TO FISCAL YEAR 33.
11:09:27AM AND WE PAY AROUND 275,000 PER YEAR FOR THAT CONTRACT TO DO
11:09:33AM ENHANCED LANDSCAPING THAT THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CAC
11:09:37AM REQUESTED.
11:09:38AM THAT IS THAT FIGURE.
11:09:40AM PRESSURE WASHING AS WELL.
11:09:41AM WE UPGRADED FROM TWO TO THREE PRESSURE WASHINGS PER YEAR IN
11:09:47AM THE CHANNEL DISTRICT.
11:09:49AM ENHANCED PRESSURE WASHING, $55,000 ANNUAL CONTRACT.
11:09:53AM 550 OVER THE TEN YEARS.
11:09:55AM AND THEN WAY-FINDING SIGNAGE, AGAIN, THE FABRICATION,
11:09:59AM INSTALLATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE SIGNAGE CONCEPT THAT
11:10:02AM WE'VE APPROVED.
11:10:03AM THESE ARE ANTICIPATED COMMITMENTS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD,
11:10:13AM SO THERE WE HAVE THE FLORIDA AQUARIUM, THE HISTORIC
11:10:16AM STREETCAR OPERATIONS THAT WE PROVIDE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
11:10:19AM THE FUTURE PARK I MENTIONED THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN
11:10:22AM THREE AND FOUR MILLION DOLLARS.
11:10:24AM SECURITY CAMERAS.
11:10:25AM WE'RE WORKING WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT ON
11:10:27AM INSTALLATION OF ADDITIONAL SECURITY CAMERAS.
11:10:29AM THAT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
11:10:31AM WE JUST NEED TO CONFIRM THE AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THAT.
11:10:35AM RIVERWALK EXPANSION, DISCUSSIONS STILL TO TAKE PLACE AND
11:10:41AM ACQUISITIONS AND DEVELOPMENTS.
11:10:43AM SO ANY OPPORTUNITIES WE MAY SEE FOR LAND ACQUISITION IN THE
11:10:46AM CHANNELSIDE.
11:10:47AM CHANNEL DISTRICT.
11:10:48AM SO THE SAME COLUMNS AS REPRESENTED IN THE DOWNTOWN.
11:10:59AM WE HAVE THE 34 MILLION STARTING IN 2024 AND JUST WANT TO
11:11:02AM POINT OUT THE FACT THAT THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE ROLLOVER OF
11:11:06AM 2023.
11:11:06AM SO THAT'S WHY THAT LOOKS SUBSTANTIAL.
11:11:09AM TAKING AWAY THE COMMITTED ITEMS THAT I SHOWED ON THE
11:11:12AM PREVIOUS SLIDE, THEN WITH A REDUCTION OF 25% AND REDUCTION
11:11:18AM OF 50% PROVIDES THE MATH IN THE THIRD AND THE FOURTH COLUMN.
11:11:25AM I DO JUST WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS DOESN'T HOLISTICALLY
11:11:29AM PAINT A PICTURE BECAUSE WE ARE JUST TALKING AT THE DIRECTION
11:11:33AM OF THE BOARD JUST THOSE THINGS THAT ARE COMMITTED.
11:11:35AM SO THERE ARE ITEMS LIKE ADMINISTRATION.
11:11:38AM THERE ARE ITEMS THAT ARE NOT TAKEN OUT OF THE MATH EQUATIONS
11:11:44AM BECAUSE THE DIRECTION WAS ONLY TO PROVIDE SUBTRACTION OF THE
11:11:47AM COMMITTED PROJECTS.
11:11:48AM THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD BE SUBTRACTED TO PAINT THE
11:11:52AM FULL PICTURE.
11:11:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:11:55AM ARE YOU FINISHED?
11:11:56AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:11:57AM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, THIS WAS YOUR ITEM.
11:11:59AM DO YOU WANT TO GO FIRST?
11:12:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, THANK YOU.
11:12:02AM THIS ITEM I BROUGHT FORWARD MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE DOWNTOWN.
11:12:09AM I SAID IF WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE IT SOMEWHERE, IT SHOULD BE
11:12:13AM CHANNELSIDE.
11:12:14AM YOU KNOW WHAT I LEARNED?
11:12:15AM I LEARNED THAT WE ALREADY DID THAT.
11:12:17AM I DIDN'T KNOW THAT UNTIL I READ THIS PRESENTATION THAT THIS
11:12:19AM WAS ALREADY DONE.
11:12:20AM TO 80% IN 2015.
11:12:25AM AND THE FACT THAT THIS SUNSETS IN TEN YEARS, TO ME THE BIG
11:12:31AM QUESTION IS -- I MEAN, THIS IS NOT FOR A FULL-ON DISCUSSION,
11:12:36AM BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, IF THIS ENDS IN 2034, WHEN DO WE STOP
11:12:43AM PLANNING?
11:12:44AM AND HOW DO WE LOOK AT A WRAP-UP?
11:12:50AM IT'S A QUESTION THAT I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO EVEN CONSIDER.
11:12:55AM >>ERICA MOODY: THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION AND THAT'S WHY WE
11:12:58AM WANT TO BE STRATEGIC IN WHAT WE ARE ACCOMPLISHING IN YEARS
11:13:00AM ONE, THREE, AND FIVE AND THEN REALLY MAKE IT OUT TO A SEVEN
11:13:03AM TO TEN YEAR SO THAT WE CAN THEN PLAN FOR A CLOSEOUT AND
11:13:06AM DON'T HAVE ANY OPEN CONTRACTS, ANY COMMITTED FUNDING.
11:13:09AM THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE DISCUSSION WOULD BE OF WRAPPING UP
11:13:12AM THE PROJECTS AND ENDING THE CRA THERE.
11:13:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:13:15AM OH, SO SORRY, MR. MASSEY.
11:13:18AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT, CHANNEL
11:13:21AM DISTRICT RECENTLY WENT THROUGH A PROCESS OF AMENDING THE
11:13:24AM COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
11:13:25AM I THINK THEY UPDATED THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN.
11:13:28AM THOSE NEED TO BE KIND OF WHERE WE FOCUS IN ON WHAT ARE THE
11:13:31AM PROJECTS REMAINING?
11:13:32AM WHAT DO WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS?
11:13:35AM THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE UPDATING OF THE
11:13:38AM PLAN.
11:13:40AM >>ERICA MOODY: TO ADD TO THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO
11:13:42AM DO IS BRING THESE IDEAS AND PROJECTS TO YOU AS A BOARD SO
11:13:45AM YOU CAN HELP US DECIDE ON THOSE COMMITMENTS, THE YEARS THEY
11:13:48AM SHOULD BE DONE, THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING WE WANT TO CONTRIBUTE.
11:13:51AM STAFF IS LOOKING TO BRING THOSE TYPES OF RECOMMENDATIONS TO
11:13:54AM YOU.
11:13:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SAY THE EXACT SAME THING I SAID ABOUT
11:13:59AM DOWNTOWN.
11:14:00AM THE FACT THAT WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN EVERY PORTION OF
11:14:04AM THE CITY.
11:14:05AM I WOULD NOT SUPPORT REDUCING THE COMMITMENT OF 30% TOWARD
11:14:10AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS DISTRICT, JUST LIKE I WOULDN'T
11:14:12AM SUPPORT IT IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
11:14:15AM IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE CRA, WE NEED TO REALLY, REALLY
11:14:19AM START FOCUSING ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THAT
11:14:22AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUNDING.
11:14:23AM THAT NEEDS TO BE THE ABSOLUTE PRIORITY.
11:14:27AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM FUNDING THESE OTHER ISSUES, ESPECIALLY --
11:14:32AM WE SUPPORTED ALL OF OUR OTHER CULTURAL ASSETS.
11:14:35AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING THE AQUARIUM IN THIS.
11:14:37AM AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM SUPPORTING THE EXPANSION OF THE
11:14:40AM RIVERWALK.
11:14:41AM BUT HOW DO WE GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THERE?
11:14:43AM THAT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY THE MOST CHALLENGING PART OF THE
11:14:48AM CHANNELSIDE CRA GOING FORWARD.
11:14:51AM I EXPECT TO SEE THAT IN THE STRATEGIC ACTION PLAN AND THE
11:14:54AM CRP GOING FORWARD.
11:14:57AM THANK YOU.
11:14:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:14:59AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND
11:15:01AM THEN CARLSON.
11:15:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: REAL QUICK.
11:15:04AM I ALREADY MADE SEVERAL COMMENTS REGARDING THIS.
11:15:07AM I WOULDN'T SUPPORT CAPPING OR REDUCING IT.
11:15:09AM AS ALREADY MENTIONED, THIS HAS BEEN VISITED IN THE PAST.
11:15:12AM BUT ALSO, THERE IS THE COUNTY CONTRIBUTION IN THIS WHICH IS
11:15:16AM DIFFERENT FROM THE DOWNTOWN.
11:15:18AM SO I WOULD JUST LEAVE THIS ALONE.
11:15:19AM THAT'S IT.
11:15:20AM THANK YOU.
11:15:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND THEN COUNCILMAN
11:15:23AM CARLSON.
11:15:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CONCUR WITH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO WITH A
11:15:26AM COUPLE OF OBSERVATIONS.
11:15:28AM WHAT IS THE PLAN -- I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT
11:15:32AM LAND ACQUISITION.
11:15:32AM ONE OF THE THINGS WOEFULLY INADEQUATE IN CHANNELSIDE IS
11:15:36AM GREENSPACE.
11:15:37AM ARE WE ACTIVELY LIKE MAKING OFFERS ON LAND OR TRYING --
11:15:41AM THERE'S NOT MUCH LEFT.
11:15:42AM THE DIRT IS GETTING RARER AND RARER.
11:15:45AM WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR GREENSPACE IN CHANNELSIDE?
11:15:49AM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT.
11:15:51AM WE KNOW IT WILL COST MORE.
11:15:52AM ACQUISITION WILL COST MORE.
11:15:53AM WE KNOW HOUSING WILL COST MORE IN DOWNTOWN AND CHANNELSIDE.
11:15:56AM AND WE ARE AGGRESSIVELY LOOKING FOR LAND.
11:15:58AM LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S NOT MUCH OF IT.
11:15:59AM THE PROCESS FOR THAT IS THAT WE LOOK INTO DIFFERENT LAND AND
11:16:03AM WE WORK WITH THE DEAL.
11:16:05AM WE WORK WITH THE SELLER TO GET TO A DEAL, BRING IT TO THE
11:16:09AM CAC FOR RECOMMENDATION AND BRING IT TO THE CRA BOARD FOR
11:16:11AM RECOMMENDATION.
11:16:12AM JUST FOR AWARENESS, WE ARE LOOKING AT POTENTIAL LAND TO
11:16:16AM BRING TO YOU SOON IN CHANNELSIDE.
11:16:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF VACANT LAND IN
11:16:21AM CHANNELSIDE?
11:16:22AM WHAT IS THE ACREAGE AVAILABLE IN CHANNELSIDE IN THE CRA?
11:16:25AM >> NOT MUCH.
11:16:26AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF OPEN ACREAGE BUT
11:16:29AM MUCH IS UNDER PORT CONTROL, ONE OF THE PROJECTS YOU'LL BE
11:16:32AM HEARING TONIGHT, IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF CHANNELSIDE DRIVE
11:16:36AM IS WHERE MOST OF THE VACANT LAND EXISTS.
11:16:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT WITHIN THE CRA.
11:16:40AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, IT IS.
11:16:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
11:16:45AM SAME SENTIMENT, BECAUSE OF THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTION, THIS
11:16:50AM HAS ALREADY BEEN PREVIOUSLY REDUCED AND THIS WAS THE
11:16:53AM TIMELINE I WAS THINKING ABOUT WHEN TALKING ABOUT DOWNTOWN.
11:16:55AM I HAD CHANNELSIDE TIME-OUT IN MY HEAD.
11:16:59AM BUT, YEAH, EXACT SAME SENTIMENT THAT'S BEEN EXPRESSED.
11:17:03AM THERE'S STILL THE UNMET NEEDS.
11:17:06AM AGAIN, TO MY MIND, THE GREENSPACE IS ONE OF THE MOST
11:17:08AM IMPORTANT, ALONG WITH TRANSPORTATION.
11:17:11AM IT'S SOMETHING IF WE CAN MAKE THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF GOOD
11:17:13AM FOR THE GREATEST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WITH THE BANG FOR THE BUCK
11:17:15AM IS THAT TRANSPORTATION ENHANCEMENTS AND GREENSPACE IN
11:17:19AM CHANNELSIDE WOULD BE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY IF WE DON'T JUMP
11:17:23AM ON IT WHILE WE STILL CAN.
11:17:25AM BECAUSE THAT WINDOW IS NOT GOING TO BE OPEN FOR VERY LONG.
11:17:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:17:29AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:17:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
11:17:32AM I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THIS ONE THAT I DO ABOUT DOWNTOWN.
11:17:36AM I SUPPORT KEEPING THE OTHER CRA DISTRICTS.
11:17:41AM THERE REALLY IS NO SLUM AND BLIGHT COMPARED TO OTHER PLACES
11:17:44AM IN THE CITY, LIKE EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA, SULPHUR SPRINGS WE
11:17:48AM TALKED ABOUT THE USF AREA, EVEN PLACES SOUTH OF GANDY.
11:17:54AM I THINK THAT TODAY WE COULDN'T GET A CRA IN THIS AREA.
11:17:59AM IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AS MR. STOLTENBERG SAID.
11:18:05AM I MADE A MOTION IN 2020.
11:18:07AM IT FAILED I THINK 6-1.
11:18:09AM AFTER THAT I SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND I
11:18:12AM WALKED UP AND DOWN THE STREETS AND LISTENED TO WHAT THEY HAD
11:18:15AM TO SAY.
11:18:15AM THERE'S STUFF IN THE CRP RIGHT NOW THAT THEY HAVE PUT IN.
11:18:20AM THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF COMMUNITY BUILDING, AND THERE ARE
11:18:22AM SOME KEY PIECES THAT ARE MISSING AND THEY ARE COMMUNITY
11:18:26AM BUILDING THAT THEY WANT TO PUT IN AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:18:28AM IT HAS NINE YEARS LEFT, WHICH MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR US
11:18:32AM TO BE ABLE TO MOVE IT AT THIS POINT.
11:18:35AM FOUR YEARS AGO, IT WAS 13 YEARS SO THAT WAS A DIFFERENT
11:18:37AM SITUATION.
11:18:38AM ALSO, AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, THERE IS THE COUNTY MATCH.
11:18:41AM SO WE WOULD BE LOSING THAT MONEY.
11:18:43AM TAKE OUT, I THINK MAYBE HALF OF THE MONEY THAT'S THERE, OR
11:18:48AM YOU WOULD DOUBLE THAT NUMBER AS WHAT'S COMING IN THAT THE
11:18:50AM COUNTY IS ABLE TO PUT IN.
11:18:52AM BECAUSE OF THAT, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO.
11:18:57AM PHILOSOPHICALLY, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE MONEY IN AREAS
11:19:00AM THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL AND DON'T HAVE SLUM AND BLIGHT WHEN WE
11:19:03AM HAVE ISSUES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY.
11:19:05AM BUT THIS ONE I THINK IS VERY DIFFICULT AND CHALLENGING, A
11:19:08AM LOT MORE CHALLENGING THAN DOWNTOWN.
11:19:10AM I STILL THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT PROJECTS
11:19:13AM WE SPEND.
11:19:13AM AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'M AGAINST FUNDING THE AQUARIUM.
11:19:17AM THE CONDITIONS COMING OUT OF THE RECESSION OR, SORRY, COVID
11:19:22AM A FEW YEARS AGO, TRYING TO RESTART THE ECONOMY AND ALSO
11:19:25AM CONSIDERING THAT THERE WAS DEFUNDING OF THE ARTS BEFORE
11:19:28AM THAT.
11:19:29AM THERE WERE REASONS THAT WE MADE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE
11:19:31AM PROJECTS.
11:19:31AM I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS WOULD GET FUNDED TODAY
11:19:34AM BECAUSE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS.
11:19:36AM SO WE NEED TO BE REALLY CAREFUL.
11:19:38AM THE TEST IS THAT IF YOU'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY'S
11:19:41AM HOUSE AND THEIR ROAD LOOKS TERRIBLE AND YOU SAY I CAN'T FIX
11:19:44AM YOUR ROAD BECAUSE SPEND IT ON THIS, IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE
11:19:47AM SAYING THAT, THEN WE CAN VOTE ON IT.
11:19:48AM OR IF YOU MEET PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE STREETS AND SAY TO THE
11:19:51AM 50,000 PEOPLE WE CAN'T BUILD HOUSES FOR YOU BECAUSE WE'RE
11:19:54AM SPENDING MONEY ON THIS, THAT'S FINE.
11:19:56AM IF YOU FEEL OKAY.
11:19:58AM I DON'T FEEL OKAY SPENDING MONEY ON THINGS LIKE AQUARIUM
11:20:01AM VERSUS SPENDING IT ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:20:03AM IF THIS MONEY IS TRAPPED IN CHANNEL DISTRICT, I AGREE SHOULD
11:20:08AM SPEND ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:20:10AM I DON'T AGREE WITH DEVELOPING PORT THAT MARITIME INDUSTRY
11:20:14AM WILL FIGHT.
11:20:14AM CRIPPLE THE ECONOMY IF WE CONVERT PORT LAND TO CONDOS AS
11:20:18AM SOME LOBBYISTS AND FORMER ELECTED OFFICIALS WANT TO DO.
11:20:22AM WE NEED TO PROTECT IT.
11:20:23AM THERE ARE SOME AREAS ALREADY CHANGED BUT THE AREAS THAT HAVE
11:20:26AM NOT, WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM.
11:20:27AM IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO BE CRUISE TERMINALS, THEY NEED TO
11:20:30AM BE SOMETHING ELSE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE MORE DEEP WATER
11:20:34AM PORTS.
11:20:35AM ALSO AGAINST DEVELOPER SUBSIDIES.
11:20:36AM LOTS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE INVESTED IN CHANNEL DISTRICT
11:20:39AM ALREADY.
11:20:39AM WHY SHOULD WE GIVE THEM A SUBSIDY AND UNFAIR ADVANTAGE
11:20:41AM VERSUS THE PEOPLE ALREADY INVESTED?
11:20:43AM OTHER FOLKS INVESTED WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY WOULD
11:20:46AM HAVE A FAIR PLAYING FIELD.
11:20:47AM WHY WOULD WE GIVE SOMEBODY SUBSIDIES?
11:20:49AM IF WE'RE GOING TO GIVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SUBSIDIES I THINK
11:20:52AM WE OUGHT TO DO IT ON PER UNIT BASIS, NOT A DEVELOPMENT BASIS
11:20:55AM BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD FOR
11:20:57AM EVERYONE.
11:20:58AM AND SO I'M GOING TO VOTE NO, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE
11:21:03AM REALLY, REALLY CAREFUL ABOUT WHAT WE SPEND MONEY ON,
11:21:06AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS FINE, GREENSPACE IS FINE, COMMUNITY
11:21:08AM BUILDING PROJECTS IS FINE.
11:21:09AM BUT DISRUPTING THE MARITIME ECONOMY IS NOT OKAY.
11:21:13AM THANK YOU.
11:21:13AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA FOLLOWED BY -- MIRANDA
11:21:17AM FOLLOWED BY VIERA.
11:21:20AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:21:21AM HEARD NINE YEARS, RIGHT?
11:21:22AM DID YOU HEAR THE SAME THING I HEARD, NINE YEARS?
11:21:25AM WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF NINE YEARS?
11:21:27AM IT'S OVER, RIGHT?
11:21:29AM >> THAT'S RIGHT.
11:21:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M NOT SMART.
11:21:32AM I'M NOT SO INTELLIGENT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING, AFTER
11:21:35AM NINE YEARS, WHERE DOES ALL THE MONEY GO TO?
11:21:38AM WHOSE COFFERS?
11:21:39AM CAN YOU ANSWER THAT?
11:21:41AM >>ERICA MOODY: THE GENERAL FUND.
11:21:42AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.
11:21:43AM >>ERICA MOODY: BACK TO THE CITY.
11:21:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE GENERAL FUND YOU SAID, RIGHT?
11:21:47AM >>ERICA MOODY: YES.
11:21:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT A MIRACLE.
11:21:51AM YOU'LL GET ALL YOUR MONEY BACK. IS IT THAT HARD TO FIGURE
11:21:56AM OUT?
11:21:56AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:22:01AM I'M SAYING THIS.
11:22:05AM AT THE END OF NINE YEARS, WHATEVER YOU INVESTED, YOU'RE
11:22:08AM GOING TO GET TO DO SOMEWHERE ELSE AT THE COFFERS YOU
11:22:12AM INVESTED IN SO THEY CAN LIVE BETTER.
11:22:13AM ROME WAS NOT BUILT IN ONE DAY, BUT IT BURNED REAL QUICK.
11:22:21AM WHAT I'M SAYING IS, STAY THE COURSE, THE STREETCAR, THE
11:22:33AM THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE TO MAKE IT ATTAINABLE AT SOME POINT
11:22:36AM IS THERE.
11:22:38AM ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS EXTEND IT.
11:22:39AM FIRE STATION IS NEEDED AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THE
11:22:43AM DEVELOPERS MONEY.
11:22:45AM YOU CAN DO IT ANOTHER WAY.
11:22:46AM ALLOWING THEM TO BUILD MORE UNITS IN LIEU OF MONEY.
11:22:51AM SO THAT PART IS GONE IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO IT.
11:22:56AM WE CAN'T THINK ONE WAY, OH -- YOU CAN CHANGE THINGS.
11:23:01AM YOU CAN DO THINGS BETTER.
11:23:02AM IN NINE YEARS ALL THAT MONEY GOES BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND.
11:23:06AM WHAT IS EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT?
11:23:08AM NINE YEARS IS A VERY SMALL TIME IN HISTORY WHEN YOU'RE
11:23:12AM LOOKING AT A CITY OUR AGE.
11:23:15AM AND FOR THE FUTURE, IT COULD BE FOREVER, THOSE NINE YEARS.
11:23:21AM WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET BACK IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING
11:23:25AM HERE INTO THE CITY COFFERS AFTER NINE YEARS.
11:23:28AM WHERE IS THE BEEF?
11:23:31AM REMEMBER THAT COMMERCIAL, WHERE IS THE BEEF?
11:23:33AM I'M ASKING THIS COUNCIL, WHERE IS THE BEEF?
11:23:36AM YOU'LL GET IT BACK.
11:23:37AM NOT A SCARE TACTIC.
11:23:40AM DON'T SCARE ANYBODY, ESPECIALLY MY SIZE.
11:23:43AM WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS HOLD THE COURSE, FLY THE AIRPLANE,
11:23:46AM YOU STILL GOT GAS IN IT AND MAKE A GOOD LANDING AND THE CITY
11:23:50AM IS GOING TO BE JUST FINE.
11:23:51AM JUST THAT HISTORY AND TIME, TAKE CARE OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING
11:23:54AM TO DO.
11:23:54AM WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE CITY LIKE IT IS, EXPAND IT AT THE
11:23:57AM SAME TIME AND, BY THE WAY, THERE'S NOT ONE CITY THAT I KNOW
11:24:00AM THAT'S OVER 250,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN IT THAT'S GOT A
11:24:03AM DOWNTOWN THAT'S DYING.
11:24:04AM I'M NOT PRO DOWNTOWN.
11:24:07AM I'M PRO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:24:09AM ALL OF IT IS COMING TOGETHER.
11:24:11AM UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA GONE FROM ABOUT 1500 WHEN I WAS THERE TO
11:24:14AM ALMOST 12,000 GOING THERE NOW.
11:24:17AM WHAT THEY HAVE DONE THERE IS UNBELIEVABLE.
11:24:20AM THE AMOUNT OF BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES THEY HAVE DONE AND
11:24:23AM THE EDUCATION UPLIFT, WELL, IT'S BIGGER THAN ROME, PRINCETON
11:24:29AM AND WAKE FOREST.
11:24:29AM WHAT A CITY.
11:24:33AM USED TO HAVE NOTHING, ALL HAPPY.
11:24:35AM NOW GETTING TO HAVE A LOT AND WE'RE NOT HAPPY.
11:24:37AM YOU HEARD ME SAY THAT BEFORE.
11:24:39AM I ALWAYS SAY ANOTHER THING.
11:24:41AM I LISTEN TO WHAT YOU SAY.
11:24:43AM I REMEMBERED MOST OF WHAT YOU DON'T SAY.
11:24:47AM THAT'S WHAT THEY DON'T SAY THAT IN NINE YEARS IS ALL YOURS
11:24:51AM AGAIN.
11:24:52AM HAVE YOU HEARD THAT ANYWHERE?
11:24:53AM NO.
11:24:53AM YOU KNOW WHY?
11:24:54AM BECAUSE IT'S A SECRET.
11:24:57AM THINK IT GOES ON FOREVER.
11:24:59AM IT DOES NOT.
11:24:59AM AREA TO BRING UP AND UPLIFT WHERE EVERYBODY CAN HAVE
11:25:04AM SOMETHING LATER ON AT THE COST OF SOMEBODY ELSE.
11:25:06AM PAYING IT FORWARD AND THEN GET IT BACK, LIKE HAVING A BANK
11:25:09AM ACCOUNT NOT DRAWING OUT THE INTEREST OR YOUR MONEY.
11:25:12AM AT THE END OF 20 YEARS, YOU PUT A THOUSAND DOLLARS IN,
11:25:14AM YOU'VE GOT MORE THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND YOU START
11:25:17AM GETTING IT BACK.
11:25:17AM THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY.
11:25:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I KINDLY ASK THOSE IN THE CHAMBERS TO
11:25:24AM PLEASE LOWER YOUR VOICES OR STEP OUTSIDE FOR COMMENTS
11:25:27AM BECAUSE IT IS DISTRACTING.
11:25:28AM I APPRECIATE IT.
11:25:30AM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:25:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:25:32AM APPRECIATE YOU.
11:25:33AM JUST REALLY QUICK.
11:25:35AM I ALWAYS OPPOSE THE DOWNTOWN OR THE CHANNELSIDE CAP BECAUSE
11:25:39AM OF THE COUNTY ISSUE.
11:25:41AM LOSE FUNDS.
11:25:41AM I DON'T THINK IT'S FISCALLY WISE.
11:25:44AM I'M GLAD COUNCILMAN MIRANDA BROUGHT UP THE FIRE STATION
11:25:46AM ISSUE.
11:25:47AM OBVIOUSLY THIS IS CRA, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANNELSIDE.
11:25:50AM I BELIEVE THAT WE EITHER NEED SOME SORT OF A STATION
11:25:55AM PRESENCE IN CHANNELSIDE OR ROBUST EXPANSION OF STATION ONE
11:25:59AM SO WE CAN BETTER ADDRESS THE NEEDS, THE FIRE, MEDICAL,
11:26:03AM EMERGENCY NEEDS OF CHANNELSIDE.
11:26:05AM I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
11:26:07AM I HOPE BY THE TIME THIS COUNCIL IS FINISHED THAT WE GET
11:26:10AM SOMETHING THERE.
11:26:10AM THAT'S CRITICAL.
11:26:11AM THAT'S JUST CRITICAL.
11:26:12AM YEAH, THANK YOU.
11:26:13AM APPRECIATE YOU.
11:26:15AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: RELATIVE TO THE FIRE STATION ISSUE, I WANT
11:26:17AM TO REMIND THE BOARD, ONE OF THE PROHIBITIONS IN THE STATE
11:26:21AM LAW IS THAT WE CAN'T USE CRA FUNDS TO BUILD A FIRE STATION.
11:26:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT'S WHY I SAID -- CRA --
11:26:31AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
11:26:32AM MOVING ON.
11:26:39AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF THAT CONCLUDES YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
11:26:41AM CHANNELSIDE, DO WE WANT TO HAVE A MOTION TO NOT MOVE FORWARD
11:26:45AM WITH THIS?
11:26:46AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NEED A MOTION OR NOT.
11:26:50AM WELL, IT'S HERE FOR PRESENTATION.
11:26:51AM WE NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANT
11:26:55AM US TO MOVE FORWARD OR NOT.
11:26:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TAKE IT OFF THE
11:27:00AM TABLE.
11:27:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
11:27:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND SECOND
11:27:05AM BY BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:27:06AM IS THERE DISCUSSION?
11:27:07AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:27:08AM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD WE CHANGE THAT TO A MOTION TO RECEIVE
11:27:10AM AND FILE.
11:27:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:27:11AM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
11:27:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
11:27:14AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:27:14AM OPPOSED?
11:27:15AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:27:16AM THANK YOU, ATTORNEY MASSEY, FOR THAT.
11:27:27AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE NEXT ITEM WHICH IMPACTS THE INTERLOCAL
11:27:29AM AND I'LL LEAD THIS OFF IS THE POTENTIAL OF EXPANDING THE ONE
11:27:34AM OR MORE OF THE EXISTING YBOR CRAs DOWN TO ADAMO DRIVE.
11:27:40AM UNDER STATE LAW, YOU CAN MODIFY COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN
11:27:43AM TO EXPAND ITS BOUNDARIES, BUT IN ORDER TO DO SO, YOU HAVE TO
11:27:48AM GO THROUGH THE SAME STEPS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH
11:27:51AM TO ESTABLISH A NEW CRA ALTOGETHER.
11:27:53AM YOU HAVE TO DO A SLUM AND BLIGHT STUDY.
11:27:56AM THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL
11:27:59AM TO FIND THAT -- MAKE A FINDING OF NECESSITY TO ADDRESS THE
11:28:03AM SLUM AND BLIGHT STUDIES IN THAT AREA.
11:28:06AM WE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN OR AMEND THE EXISTING
11:28:09AM PLANS TO ADDRESS THAT SPECIFIC AREA, AND THEN THE OTHER
11:28:14AM ISSUE -- AND THIS IS WHERE THINGS GET COMPLICATED -- THE
11:28:17AM INCREMENT IS BASED ON THE YEAR THAT THE CRA IS ESTABLISHED.
11:28:22AM IF YOU TRY TO MODIFY THE BOUNDARIES AND INCLUDE IT INTO AN
11:28:26AM EXISTING CRA, YOU POTENTIALLY, AND THE WISDOM IS, IS THAT
11:28:32AM YOU WOULD HAVE TO RESET THE DATE FOR DETERMINING INCREMENT,
11:28:35AM WHICH MEANS THERE WILL NOT BE MONEY AVAILABLE WITHIN THAT
11:28:38AM YBOR CRA TO FUND THE THINGS YOU ALREADY WANTED TO MOVE
11:28:40AM FORWARD WITH, LIKE THE REBRICKING OF 7th OR SOME OF THE
11:28:44AM INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO THE GASWORX PROJECT,
11:28:48AM SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ON THE TABLE.
11:28:51AM WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF THIS INCREMENT
11:28:55AM ISSUE, WE'VE HAD IT COME UP TWICE BEFORE.
11:28:59AM DOWNTOWN, WE EXPANDED DOWNTOWN AND WE DO HAVE ONE UNIFIED
11:29:02AM PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE ONE THAT DEALS WITH CORE
11:29:06AM AND NON-CORE, AND WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE TRUST FUNDS FOR THOSE
11:29:09AM THINGS.
11:29:10AM IT BECOMES DIFFICULT TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.
11:29:12AM SO WHEN YBOR, WHEN WE WANT TO EXPAND YBOR SEVERAL YEARS AGO,
11:29:16AM WHAT WE DID IS WE CREATED A WHOLE NEW CRA TO KEEP THE TRUST
11:29:19AM FUND, THE PLANS, EVERYTHING SEPARATE.
11:29:21AM THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO DO IF YOU ARE
11:29:23AM INTERESTED IN EXPANDING DOWN TO ADAMO.
11:29:26AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:29:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, I WOULD DO THE SAME THING WE JUST
11:29:30AM DID WITH THE DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU JUST PROVIDED AND THE
11:29:34AM CLARIFICATION THAT OUR COUNSEL JUST PROVIDED.
11:29:36AM I MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE BASED ON I THINK THAT
11:29:38AM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WE'RE GOING TO SEE HERE TONIGHT ON
11:29:43AM COUNCIL AND WAS ALREADY HAPPENING, THE CATALYST FOR ALL THE
11:29:46AM PROJECTS HAPPENING IN YBOR CITY, THIS IS GOING TO -- ITSELF,
11:29:50AM THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE COMPLEXITY AND THE
11:29:53AM COST THAT WE'D INCUR AS A CITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT DOESN'T
11:29:57AM -- THE COST VERSUS BENEFIT JUST DOESN'T JUSTIFY THAT ACTION.
11:30:01AM WHILE IT'S A WELL-CONCEIVED PROJECT, I THINK THE REALITY,
11:30:04AM THOUGH, WE'RE IN A PHASE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THAT
11:30:08AM THIS IS REALLY NOT GOING TO BE NEEDED.
11:30:10AM THE MARKET IS GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THIS ON ITS OWN.
11:30:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THIS WAS MY MOTION.
11:30:22AM SO THE YBOR CRA ENDS ABOUT THREE STREETS NORTH OF ADAMO
11:30:33AM RIGHT NOW.
11:30:33AM AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE MAY BE SOME DEVELOPMENT ACROSS ADAMO,
11:30:41AM DIFFERENT PLACES.
11:30:41AM AND THIS AREA WILL BE THE GATEWAY TO YBOR.
11:30:44AM IT WILL BE PEOPLE ACROSS ADAMO.
11:30:47AM SO THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT NEED TO BE DONE IN
11:30:50AM THE ADAMO AREA TO ENABLE PEOPLE TO WALK ACROSS, AND THEN YOU
11:30:55AM ALL HAVE BEEN ON WALKING TOURS, I THINK.
11:30:57AM THERE'S WHAT I CALL SIX BLOCKS, BUT FOUR WAREHOUSES AND LIKE
11:31:03AM FOUR HUGE KIND OF QUONSET HUTS THERE.
11:31:06AM SOME OF IT IS PICKLEBALL NOW, BUT DARRYL AND HIS PARTNERS
11:31:09AM WANT TO CONVERT A LOT OF IT TO THE ARTS.
11:31:15AM ADJACENT, TWO OR THREE LANDOWNERS HAVE OFFERED LAND TO THE
11:31:20AM ART SPACE, WHICH IS A NATIONAL NONPROFIT THAT IS TRYING TO
11:31:27AM BUILD AN AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING FOR ARTISTS THERE.
11:31:32AM FOR DISCLOSURE, MORRIS, I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE TAMPA ARTS
11:31:35AM ALLIANCE, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT, AND ONE OF THEIR SUBPROJECTS
11:31:38AM THAT THEY WORKED WITH IS THE ART SPACE BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY
11:31:42AM FINANCIAL INTEREST, JUST TO DISCLOSE THAT.
11:31:45AM ANYWAY, ART SPACE IN THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT WITH ALL THE
11:31:55AM CAPITAL CAMPAIGNS GOING ON, ART SPACE NEEDS SOME KIND OF
11:32:00AM GOVERNMENT SUPPORT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
11:32:04AM THE ONLY WAY THAT THE CRA CAN PARTICIPATE IS IF THIS
11:32:08AM BOUNDARY IS CHANGED.
11:32:09AM SO NOT CHANGING IT COULD KILL THE ART SPACE PROJECT OR IT
11:32:12AM WILL SEND EVERYBODY BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD TO FIND
11:32:15AM ANOTHER PLACE.
11:32:16AM KEEPING IN MIND THAT THOSE ARTISTS WOULD BE LIVING IN AN
11:32:20AM AREA ADJACENT TO THE NEW GATEWAY TO YBOR.
11:32:23AM I THINK SOME OF THE BIG ARTS INVESTMENTS ALSO WILL NOT
11:32:26AM HAPPEN ON THEIR OWN.
11:32:28AM SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS, LIKE DARRYL SHAW AND OTHERS HAVE
11:32:32AM INVESTED IN KRESS BUILDING.
11:32:38AM THERE IS THE THIRD ART WALK, 20, 30 DIFFERENT ARTISTS,
11:32:41AM PLACES YOU CAN GO TO.
11:32:43AM WITHOUT CRA SUPPORT, THE BIG INVESTMENTS IN THE ARTS, THE
11:32:46AM CONTINUED BIG INVESTMENTS IN THE ARTS ARE NOT GOING TO
11:32:48AM HAPPEN BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR ALONE.
11:32:50AM IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER WE WANT ART TO BE SUSTAINABLE.
11:32:52AM IF YOU LOOK IN ST. PETERSBURG, ARTS DISTRICT, ARTS EXCHANGE,
11:32:58AM THE NONPROFIT SECTOR CAME TOGETHER, BUT THE CITY ALSO CAME
11:33:01AM TOGETHER TO PUT MONEY IN IT.
11:33:03AM NOW THE ARTISTS OWN THEIR OWN SPACE, AND THE ART SPACE
11:33:06AM PROPOSAL IN YBOR IS SIMILAR TO THAT BUT ALSO OPPORTUNITIES
11:33:11AM FOR NONPROFITS OR OTHERS TO OWN SPACE SO THAT ARTISTS WON'T
11:33:15AM GET GENTRIFIED OUT.
11:33:16AM WE KNOW PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE AND WORK NEAR THE ARTS.
11:33:19AM WE KNOW ARTS IS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE.
11:33:21AM WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THE VOTES FOR THIS IN THIS
11:33:24AM ENVIRONMENT, BUT IF WE DON'T DO THIS, WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY
11:33:28AM LOOK AT THE OTHER AGENDA ITEM WHICH WAS TAKEN OFF, WHICH IS
11:33:31AM HOW CAN WE THROUGH THE CRA OR THE CITY OR ASK THE COUNTY TO
11:33:35AM HELP SUPPORT SOME OF THE ARTS INITIATIVES IN YBOR.
11:33:39AM THE PRIVATE SECTOR CAN'T FUND ALL OF IT AND WE'RE GOING TO
11:33:43AM LOSE THE MOMENTUM IN YBOR IF WE DON'T CONTINUE MAKING
11:33:46AM INVESTMENTS IN THE ARTS.
11:33:46AM THANK YOU.
11:33:47AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:33:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU
11:33:50AM DESCRIBED.
11:33:50AM I THINK THE BUREAUCRACY OF DOING THIS AND THE TIMING AND
11:33:53AM ALSO THE DRAIN ON THE YBOR CRA IS POTENTIALLY DIRE FOR SOME
11:33:59AM OF THE UNMET NEEDS WE HAVE IN THAT AREA.
11:34:01AM IT DOESN'T PROHIBIT US AS A CITY COUNCIL TO DO A LOT OF WHAT
11:34:05AM YOU JUST DESCRIBED.
11:34:06AM I THINK THAT WE JUST HAVE TO -- YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE
11:34:10AM REVENUE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE COUNTY PART OF IT, THAT
11:34:13AM REVENUE IS BEING GENERATED IN THAT AREA.
11:34:15AM AS A COUNCIL, WE CAN IDENTIFY REVENUE THAT'S CREATED IN THAT
11:34:18AM AREA AND REINVEST IN THE SAME AREA TO DO THOSE SAME TYPE OF
11:34:22AM ENHANCEMENTS YOU JUST DISCUSSED.
11:34:23AM I THINK AS WE TALK ABOUT DEVELOPING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF
11:34:26AM ADAMO AND THAT AREA, WE NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT IT'S
11:34:29AM GOING TO COST TO DO THOSE ENHANCEMENTS FOR CROSSINGS AND
11:34:33AM PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WILL COME WITH IT.
11:34:36AM THAT ALL NEEDS TO BE KEY WHEN CONSIDERING THESE
11:34:39AM REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
11:34:40AM I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
11:34:44AM DOING IT THROUGH THE EXPANSION OF THE CRA.
11:34:48AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:34:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: MORRIS, WE CAN'T TALK TO EACH OTHER OUTSIDE
11:34:52AM THIS ROOM.
11:34:53AM I WOULD ASK ALL OF YOU TO KEEP IN MIND AND TALK TO THE YBOR
11:34:56AM FOLKS ABOUT ALL THE ARTS THINGS GOING ON AND SEE IF YOU
11:34:59AM SUPPORT ANY OF IT.
11:35:00AM IF YOU DO, BRING IT UP IN THESE MEETINGS BECAUSE I CAN'T
11:35:03AM TALK TO YOU OUTSIDE.
11:35:04AM THERE ARE SOME OTHER, THE YBOR CRA AS IT IS HAS I THINK $5
11:35:08AM MILLION IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:35:09AM THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SPEND.
11:35:10AM BUT THERE IS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH THE
11:35:13AM ARTS TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN YBOR WITH PARTNER ALL OF
11:35:17AM THAT MONEY.
11:35:18AM AND THEN THE OTHER ARTS THINGS GOING ON.
11:35:20AM THE THING I WAS GOING TO SAY, MORRIS, DON'T NEED AN ANSWER
11:35:22AM NOW, IF ANY OF YOU, IF MORE THAN THREE OF YOU ARE INTERESTED
11:35:25AM IN USING CITY MONEY AT SOME POINT FOR ANY OF THE ARTS
11:35:28AM INVESTMENTS AND CITY MONEY, MAYBE WE COULD CONSIDER
11:35:32AM SOMETHING LIKE A VIRTUAL TIF WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO
11:35:36AM OFFICIALLY MAKE IT, BUT WE JUST SAY MONEY, CALCULATE MONEY
11:35:40AM COLLECTED IN THIS AREA FOR FIVE YEARS OR SOMETHING WOULD BE
11:35:43AM INVESTED.
11:35:43AM ANYWAY, NOT TO BE RESOLVED TODAY, BUT JUST IF YOU WANT TO
11:35:48AM KEEP UP THE MOMENTUM OF YBOR, WE NEED TO FIGURE SOMETHING
11:35:51AM OUT.
11:35:51AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:35:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:35:55AM WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN EVERY SINGLE PART OF THE
11:35:58AM COMMUNITY AND THAT'S PART OF THE CRA'S GOAL IS THIS BOARD
11:36:03AM DECIDED 30% TOWARD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO THERE'S NO REASON
11:36:07AM TO SAY THEY CAN'T FIND SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.
11:36:10AM ABSOLUTELY, WE CAN FIND SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.
11:36:12AM IT'S GOING TO BE THE RIGHT PROJECT.
11:36:13AM SO I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, HAMMER HOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS
11:36:18AM FOR EVERY PORTION OF THE CITY.
11:36:21AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: RECOGNIZE BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:36:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REMEMBER, IT CAN BE TO ARTIST HOUSING,
11:36:26AM TOO.
11:36:27AM YOU ALL OUT THERE LISTENING.
11:36:29AM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE
11:36:31AM MEMORANDUM FROM MORRIS MASSEY AND THE E-MAIL FROM ERIN
11:36:36AM BRADLEY.
11:36:36AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD MEMBER
11:36:37AM CLENDENIN.
11:36:38AM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:36:39AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
11:36:40AM >> AYE.
11:36:40AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OPPOSED?
11:36:41AM MOTION CARRIES.
11:36:44AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE LAST ITEM THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY AFFECT
11:36:46AM THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY, CITY AND CRA IS
11:36:49AM MR. VIERA'S MOTION ABOUT CREATING A NEW REDEVELOPMENT AREA
11:36:52AM IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:36:57AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:36:58AM >>LUIS VIERA: IS ANYBODY SPEAKING ON THAT FROM STAFF?
11:37:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT'S ON THE AGENDA.
11:37:04AM ITEM NUMBER 10.
11:37:15AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DON'T BELIEVE THEY ARE.
11:37:16AM IN ORDER TO CREATE, JUST TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK, WE WOULD
11:37:19AM HAVE TO AMEND THE INTERLOCAL.
11:37:21AM HAVE TO DO A SLUM AND BLIGHT STUDY AND FINDING OF NECESSITY
11:37:25AM THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS WITHIN A DEFINED AREA, THE SLUM AND
11:37:30AM BLIGHT CONDITIONS THAT THE STUDY STATES EXIST, THEN YOU HAVE
11:37:33AM TO ADOPT A COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THEN YOU WOULD
11:37:37AM HAVE TO PASS AN ORDINANCE CREATING THE REDEVELOPMENT TRUST
11:37:40AM FUND.
11:37:41AM THAT WOULD THEN LOCK IN THE DATE THAT WE WOULD FREEZE THE
11:37:46AM TAX BASE THAT WOULD GO TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY,
11:37:48AM HOPEFULLY.
11:37:49AM THAT'S ALL SUBJECT TO NEGOTIATION.
11:37:52AM THE INCREASE FROM THAT TIME FORWARD WOULD THEN GO INTO THE
11:37:55AM REDEVELOPMENT TRUST FUND FOR THAT AREA TO BE SPENT ON
11:37:58AM REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES WITHIN THAT AREA.
11:38:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:38:03AM YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED A LOT.
11:38:05AM A LOT OF US HAVE SAID WE SUPPORT SULPHUR SPRINGS CRA.
11:38:08AM AND THIS IS ONE WAY WHERE WE CAN BEGIN TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS
11:38:11AM ON IT.
11:38:12AM REMEMBER, THAT'S ALL, THIS WHOLE IDEA OF WE TALK ON
11:38:17AM INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, OPENING UP THE GATES OF HELL, NO, NO,
11:38:21AM NO.
11:38:21AM WE CAN WALK AWAY.
11:38:22AM THIS IS JUST TALKING, AND SOMETHING THAT WAS -- MAY HAVE
11:38:25AM BEEN SAID BY ATTORNEY MASSEY, WE TALKED WITH THE CITY AS
11:38:28AM WELL AS THE COUNTY.
11:38:29AM IT'S A LONG PROCESS, RIGHT?
11:38:31AM THIS IS A LONG PROCESS.
11:38:32AM THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WHERE IF YOU GO FOR IT TODAY, THAT'S
11:38:35AM IT, THE TRAIN LEFT THE STATION.
11:38:36AM I MARRIED IT AND NO DIVORCE BECAUSE I AM AN ORTHODOX
11:38:40AM CATHOLIC.
11:38:41AM NO, NOT AT ALL.
11:38:43AM I WILL MAKE A MOTION ON THIS THAT I'LL DISCUSS IN A LITTLE
11:38:45AM BIT.
11:38:46AM THERE ARE ARGUMENTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE AGAINST THIS,
11:38:50AM RIGHT?
11:38:50AM AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS.
11:38:53AM ONE POSITION IS ALWAYS THAT CRAs FORCE BODIES TO SPEND
11:38:57AM MONEY IN PLACES.
11:38:58AM I ADMIT TO THAT, RIGHT?
11:39:00AM THAT'S WHY I'M DOING THIS FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:39:03AM WE DON'T INVEST IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:39:05AM THE POVERTY RATE FOR CHILDREN IN SULPHUR SPRINGS IS 72%
11:39:09AM COMPARED TO ABOUT 20% FOR THE UNITED STATES.
11:39:13AM WELL OVER 300% OF THE NATIONAL POVERTY RATE.
11:39:16AM SULPHUR SPRINGS, ABOUT TWO-THIRDS, 60% AFRICAN AMERICAN,
11:39:19AM ABOUT 25% HISPANIC, LATINO.
11:39:22AM A STRONG MINORITY/MAJORITY AREA LEFT BEHIND NOT JUST FROM
11:39:28AM OUR PROSPERITY, BUT ALSO FROM OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
11:39:30AM I CAN'T THINK OF OTHER THAN FIRE STATION 25 THAT WE GOT OVER
11:39:36AM IN SULPHUR SPRINGS MAYBE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO TO HELP OUT
11:39:39AM WITH STATION 13, HAVEN'T BEEN A LOT OF ROBUST INVESTMENTS.
11:39:43AM THAT'S NOT PUTTING ANYBODY DOWN.
11:39:45AM IT ISN'T PUTTING ME DOWN BECAUSE I'M ONE OF SEVEN, RIGHT?
11:39:48AM IT IS A MEA CULPA ON MY PART.
11:39:51AM THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AS A DISCUSSION.
11:39:53AM WE'RE NOT MARRYING IT TODAY.
11:39:55AM WE'RE SIMPLY GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IT.
11:39:58AM THERE ARE ARGUMENTS SAYING, WELL, THE PUBLIC IS ANGRY OVER
11:40:03AM CRA AND DOWNTOWN.
11:40:04AM AGAIN, DIFFERENT ARGUMENTS TO THAT, BUT THOSE 72% OF KIDS
11:40:07AM LIVING IN POVERTY IN SULPHUR SPRINGS SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BEAR
11:40:11AM THE BURDEN OF ANGER FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY IN MY
11:40:15AM OPINION.
11:40:15AM WE KNOW THAT CRAs ARE A TOOL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IF
11:40:19AM DONE RIGHT.
11:40:20AM TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN EAST TAMPA, IN WEST TAMPA, IN YBOR
11:40:22AM CITY WHO LIVE THERE.
11:40:24AM THEY LIKE THEIR CRAs.
11:40:25AM CRAs, IF DONE RIGHT, ARE A WAY IN WHICH UNDERPRIVILEGED
11:40:30AM AND BLIGHTED AREAS CAN GET THE BENEFITS OF THE FREE MARKET
11:40:34AM BY ENCOURAGING FUNDS TO BE ROOTED UP IN THAT AREA AND TO BE
11:40:38AM SPENT IN THAT AREA ON THE THINGS THAT BENEFIT THE PEOPLE OF
11:40:42AM THAT AREA.
11:40:43AM AGAIN, A LOT OF US HAVE TALKED ABOUT SAYING, HEY, I'D LOVE
11:40:46AM TO HAVE A SULPHUR SPRINGS CRA.
11:40:49AM THIS ISN'T THE TIME TO LIKE IMMEDIATELY GET IT, BUT IT IS
11:40:52AM THE TIME TO BEGIN THAT DISCUSSION.
11:40:53AM THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IF WE BEGIN IT NOW, IT COULD BE
11:40:57AM SOMETIME UNTIL IT COMES TO FRUITION.
11:41:00AM BY THE WAY, IF WE BEGIN IT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, WHATEVER IT
11:41:02AM IS IN THE TIMELINE, WILL IT TAKE SOME TIME FOR THE SULPHUR
11:41:05AM SPRINGS CRA TO ACCUMULATE MONEY?
11:41:08AM ABSOLUTELY IT WILL.
11:41:09AM ABSOLUTELY IT WILL.
11:41:10AM BUT THE TIME TO START IS NOW.
11:41:12AM THE TIME TO START IS NOW.
11:41:13AM AGAIN, WHEN FOLKS SAY, WELL, WE CAN SPEND MONEY IN SULPHUR
11:41:16AM SPRINGS IF WE WANT TO, NEWS AT 11, WE HAVEN'T.
11:41:20AM THAT'S WHY I'M DOING THE CRA PROPOSAL THAT MANY OF US HAVE
11:41:23AM SAID THAT WE'RE FOR BECAUSE IT COMPELS US TO SPEND MONEY IN
11:41:26AM AN AREA WHERE ALMOST THREE IN FOUR KIDS LIVE IN POVERTY.
11:41:30AM IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AS A DISCUSSION.
11:41:32AM TALK WITH THE CITY.
11:41:33AM TALK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.
11:41:34AM TALK WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT IT.
11:41:36AM LET'S BEGIN THAT DISCUSSION.
11:41:37AM THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY BIG STEP, BUT IT'S THE RIGHT THING
11:41:41AM TO DO.
11:41:41AM WE CAN DO BETTER.
11:41:42AM THIS IS A WAY TO COMPEL US TO DO BETTER, RIGHT?
11:41:45AM TO COMPEL US TO DO BETTER.
11:41:47AM I HOPE THAT WE, AGAIN, BEGIN THE DISCUSSION.
11:41:50AM THAT'S ALL THIS IS.
11:41:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
11:41:53AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:41:54AM BOARD MEMBER, MIRANDA, YOU HAD YOUR LIGHT ON.
11:41:57AM WAS THERE SOMETHING ELSE?
11:41:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, I'M SORRY.
11:41:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK AND BOARD MEMBER
11:42:00AM CARLSON.
11:42:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:42:02AM AND THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER VIERA, FOR BRINGING THIS UP
11:42:05AM BECAUSE I AGREE WE CAN DO BETTER.
11:42:06AM BUT I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ON HOW WE CAN DO BETTER.
11:42:11AM SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO ASK MR. DRUMGO, I BELIEVE HE IS
11:42:17AM STILL HERE, COULD YOU HAVE A MOMENT?
11:42:19AM I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HIM TO KIND OF TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT
11:42:22AM ABOUT THIS IN THAT -- NOT FROM A CRA PERSPECTIVE, BUT FROM A
11:42:29AM CITY PERSPECTIVE, AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED HIM TO COME UP.
11:42:32AM RIGHT NOW IN LOOKING AT SULPHUR SPRINGS, THERE IS NOT A
11:42:37AM LARGE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT TO DRAW DOWN MONEY, EVEN IF WE
11:42:42AM CREATED A CRA.
11:42:43AM WE DON'T HAVE THE TAX BASE FOR THAT BECAUSE MOST OF IT IS A
11:42:47AM HOME OWNERSHIP OR IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA, AM I CORRECT IN
11:42:52AM THAT?
11:42:53AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: THAT IS CORRECT, FOR THE MOST PART.
11:42:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY. SO THEN THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DO WE
11:42:58AM DO?
11:42:58AM HOW DO WE DEVELOP THAT OR HOW DO WE CREATE INCENTIVES?
11:43:02AM I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PARKS DIRECTOR TONY MULKEY ON GIVING
11:43:08AM SOME LOVE TO THE PARKS IN THAT AREA.
11:43:12AM WE JUST APPROVED LAST WEEK MONEY FOR THE GREEN ARTERY THAT'S
11:43:15AM GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH THAT AREA TO HELP WITH A
11:43:18AM BICYCLE/PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION.
11:43:22AM THE GREEN ARTERY IS THE LOOP THAT CONNECTS ALL THE WAY UP TO
11:43:26AM SULPHUR SPRINGS ALL THE WAY TO DOWNTOWN.
11:43:27AM BUT WHAT CAN WE DO?
11:43:30AM WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH SULPHUR SPRINGS TO SEE THE ACTUAL
11:43:33AM COMMERCIAL AREAS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DOG TRACK, TALKING
11:43:36AM ABOUT THE OLD K-MART AND JUST THESE REALLY GIANT, FOR LACK
11:43:40AM OF A BETTER WORD, SURFACE PARKING LOTS WITH A LITTLE BIT OF
11:43:44AM RETAIL, WHAT ARE WAYS THAT WE AS A CITY COUNCIL CAN HELP
11:43:50AM CREATE REDEVELOPMENT INCENTIVES FOR THAT AREA?
11:43:54AM I'M SORRY.
11:43:56AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: THAT'S OKAY.
11:43:57AM IT'S A BROAD APPROACH ON A REDEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.
11:44:04AM I WOULD SAY THAT CURRENTLY THE CITY, WE'RE GETTING READY TO
11:44:08AM ENGAGE IN A SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA PLAN.
11:44:11AM AND SOME OF THAT WOULD BE TO FIGURE OUT WHO THE REAL
11:44:14AM STAKEHOLDERS ARE, UNDERSTAND THE LANDOWNERS AND HOW WE WOULD
11:44:18AM LEVERAGE THAT.
11:44:19AM BUT A LOT OF IT IS REALLY CONNECTING THOSE LANDOWNERS WITH
11:44:22AM RESOURCES THAT HELP WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT THAT CAN
11:44:25AM FINANCIALLY KIND OF SPUR THAT.
11:44:29AM REALLY IT IS A LOT OF RELATIONSHIP BUILDING AND THEN DIGGING
11:44:31AM INTO THE OVERALL NEED AND UNDERSTANDING A LITTLE BIT
11:44:35AM GREATER.
11:44:36AM TO BOARD MEMBER VIERA'S ASSERTION, A LOT DOES NEED TO BE
11:44:40AM DONE.
11:44:41AM I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THIS SULPHUR SPRINGS PLAN
11:44:44AM IS TO LOOK AT INTENTIONALLY HOW WE SERVE THE AREA.
11:44:48AM THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE.
11:44:50AM AS WE START TO LOOK AT BUDGET ALLOCATIONS AND HOW WE IMPROVE
11:44:54AM PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT AREA IN A WAY THAT WOULD THEN
11:44:57AM SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S HOW I THINK THIS BODY SHOULD
11:45:01AM BE CONSIDERING IT.
11:45:02AM THE AGE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE QUALITY OF THOSE THINGS
11:45:06AM IN THE AREA, AND THEN BEING WILLING TO INVEST IN THAT
11:45:09AM INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE LIKE TO
11:45:11AM SEE SO THAT THE COMMUNITY, WHEN PEOPLE DO COME IN TO ENGAGE
11:45:16AM IN THOSE PROJECTS, THAT WE HAVE THAT -- THOSE FACILITIES AND
11:45:21AM THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE.
11:45:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:45:26AM WHAT I'M IMMEDIATELY THINKING, AS BOARD MEMBER VIERA WAS
11:45:29AM TALKING, WAS THE EXPANSION OF HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED REHAB.
11:45:32AM NOW WE HAVE IT WITH THE CRA.
11:45:33AM I ALSO KNOW WE HAVE A CITY PROGRAM.
11:45:35AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: CORRECT.
11:45:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT DEALS WITH THAT.
11:45:38AM HOW DO WE INCENTIVIZE THESE TYPES OF AREAS?
11:45:41AM I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE BIG QUESTION IS: HOW DO WE START
11:45:45AM THAT CONVERSATION?
11:45:46AM I KNOW WHAT BOARD MEMBER VIERA ALSO LIKES TO DO AS A COUNCIL
11:45:50AM MEMBER IS TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA SO IT KEEPS COMING
11:45:54AM BACK TO US.
11:45:54AM BUT WHAT CAN WE DO -- IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE CREATING A PLAN
11:46:02AM FOR THIS, BUT WHAT CAN WE AS CITY COUNCIL DO TO MAKE SURE
11:46:05AM THIS REMAINS ON OUR RADAR?
11:46:08AM AND WE MAY CHOOSE TO OPEN UP THE IDEA OF LOOKING AT CREATING
11:46:12AM A CRA, BUT WHAT DO WE DO IN THE MEANTIME?
11:46:15AM HOW DO WE AS A BODY SAY THIS IS A PORTION OF THE CITY THAT
11:46:20AM IS IMPORTANT TO US TO LIFT UP AND TO PROVIDE SERVICES WHERE
11:46:24AM SERVICES HAVEN'T BEEN.
11:46:26AM WHAT WOULD YOU SAY OUR NEXT STEPS NEED TO BE AS A CITY
11:46:30AM COUNCIL?
11:46:30AM I KNOW WE'RE ON A DIFFERENT PLANE, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
11:46:33AM THE SAME IDEA.
11:46:34AM WHAT IS OUR NEXT STEP REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS TODAY?
11:46:40AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: I THINK PART OF IT IS ALLOWING US TO GET
11:46:43AM THROUGH THE STUDY SO WE CAN GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT
11:46:46AM POLICIES THAT MAY COME OUT OF THAT THAT YOU ALL AS A CITY
11:46:49AM COUNCIL SHOULD DRIVE US TOWARDS.
11:46:51AM BUT THEN ALSO SAYING ENGAGED WITH THE BUDGETARY PROCESS AS
11:46:54AM WE LOOK AT FY '25.
11:46:56AM YOU ALL WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHERE WE ARE
11:46:58AM EXPENDING THOSE DOLLARS AND THEN ALSO TO CHALLENGE US TO
11:47:02AM INTENTIONALLY EXPEND SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS IN THE AREA OF
11:47:06AM NEED, LIKE SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:47:08AM JUST BEING VERY DIRECT ABOUT IT, I THINK IT'S MEASURING THAT
11:47:11AM INVESTMENT AND THEN STAYING COMMITTED TO IT AND ENSURING IN
11:47:14AM YOUR ROLES THAT WE CONTINUE TO INVEST THOSE DOLLARS.
11:47:17AM BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS COMES DOWN TO IS THE
11:47:19AM MONETARY INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:47:20AM THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO.
11:47:22AM I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WOULD BE WANTING TO DO IN CREATING
11:47:26AM THE CRA IS SET ASIDE THAT POT OF MONEY THAT DESIGNATES THAT
11:47:29AM SPECIFIC MONETARY INVESTMENT.
11:47:30AM FOR CONSIDERATION, IT'S LOOKING AT THIS BUDGETARY PROCESS
11:47:33AM AND GETTING A SENSE OF HOW MUCH WOULD BE ADEQUATE TO START
11:47:36AM TO REALLY LOOK AT IT INVESTING IN THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER IT
11:47:39AM BE IN PARKS, WHETHER IT BE IN THE STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE.
11:47:41AM AND THEN FOR US TO ALSO CONTINUE TO PURSUE THOSE GRANT AND
11:47:45AM FUNDING AND FINANCIAL OPPORTUNITIES TO SUPPORT PROJECTS
11:47:48AM WITHIN SULPHUR SPRINGS AS WELL, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT YOU
11:47:51AM ARE ALSO DOING THROUGH THE LOW INCOME, LOW ACCESS TO
11:47:54AM RESOURCES AND FOOD IN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
11:47:57AM SO I THINK YOU ALL ARE DOING A LOT OF THAT AND YOU'RE
11:48:01AM STARTING TO SEE A LITTLE BIT OF MOMENTUM BEHIND IT.
11:48:04AM AGAIN, IT JUST TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR US.
11:48:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAD ONE MORE FOLLOW-UP QUESTION TO
11:48:09AM THAT.
11:48:09AM WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT STUDY TO BE READY?
11:48:14AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: I WOULD NEED TO TALK TO STEPHEN BENSON ABOUT
11:48:17AM THAT BECAUSE STEPHEN IS OVERSEEING THAT WITH HIS PLANNING
11:48:20AM TEAM.
11:48:20AM I KNOW THAT WE DID ENGAGE IN THE RFP FOR THE SERVICES WITH
11:48:24AM THE CONSULTANT.
11:48:25AM I JUST NEED TO AFFIRM WHAT THE OUTPUTS WOULD BE.
11:48:28AM I DON'T KNOW IF WE BROUGHT THAT CONTRACT FORWARD FOR YOU ALL
11:48:31AM FOR APPROVAL.
11:48:31AM BUT WE'LL GET YOU AN UPDATE ON IT.
11:48:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT I WOULD ASK, THEN, AND I
11:48:36AM THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN MAKE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER
11:48:39AM TONIGHT IS A MOTION TO HAVE MR. BENSON COME AND JUST GIVE US
11:48:45AM AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE GOAL WOULD BE.
11:48:47AM WOULD THAT BE A REASONABLE REQUEST AND EXPECTATION?
11:48:52AM >>ALIS DRUMGO: YES, IT WOULD BE.
11:48:54AM ABSOLUTELY.
11:48:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF MR. VIERA -- OH, WOW!
11:48:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SPEAK OF THE DEVIL.
11:49:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOW, THAT IS AMAZING!
11:49:01AM THAT'S PHENOMENAL!
11:49:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK YOUR NAME WAS MENTIONED THREE
11:49:07AM TIMES.
11:49:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND THEN YOU JUST APPEAR.
11:49:13AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: STEPHEN BENSON, CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR.
11:49:16AM WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO SELECT A
11:49:18AM CONSULTANT, AND NOW WE'RE CURRENTLY IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH
11:49:21AM THAT CONSULTANT.
11:49:21AM SO ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO BRING THAT CONTRACT TO YOU, I THINK
11:49:24AM YOU'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT TIGHTER SENSE OF A TIMELINE OF
11:49:28AM WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT BUT WE'RE STILL IN THE
11:49:30AM NEGOTIATION PHASE.
11:49:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU PROBABLY EXPECT IT TO COME TO US WITHIN
11:49:34AM THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, WOULD YOU SAY?
11:49:36AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: THAT WOULD BE OUR HOPE.
11:49:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ASK IS THAT WHEN
11:49:40AM YOU BRING THAT FORWARD, IF YOU COULD BRING A MAP OF THE AREA
11:49:44AM IN WHICH YOU ARE -- LIKE, THE BOUNDARIES.
11:49:46AM BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF US THINK ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS, BUT
11:49:49AM WHERE YOU ARE ENVISIONING THE BOUNDARIES.
11:49:51AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
11:49:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: TO CREATE THE MOST IMPACT BECAUSE -- ANYWAY.
11:49:55AM WOW.
11:49:55AM THANK YOU.
11:49:56AM I'M STILL JUST BLOWN AWAY.
11:49:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:50:00AM >>BILL CARLSON: I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD LET YOU SPEAK SINCE
11:50:04AM YOU CAME HERE.
11:50:04AM [ LAUGHTER ]
11:50:05AM THANKS FOR RUNNING UP HERE.
11:50:07AM DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE I MAKE MY COMMENT?
11:50:09AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE MY COMMENTS ABOUT THIS.
11:50:13AM I APPRECIATE ALL MY COLLEAGUES BRINGING OUR ATTENTION AND
11:50:15AM THE PUBLIC'S ATTENTION TO THIS.
11:50:16AM I'M 100% IN FAVOR OF HELPING SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:50:20AM I ALSO JUST SPENT SOME TIME THERE.
11:50:22AM I HAVE IN THE PAST.
11:50:24AM BUT I'M NOT -- I'M 100% AGAINST THE CRA FOR THE SAME REASON
11:50:28AM I DIDN'T PROPOSE EVEN THOUGH MR. MASSEY SAID WHY DON'T YOU
11:50:32AM CREATE A THIRD CRA IN YBOR CITY, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF
11:50:34AM CREATING ANY NEW CRAs.
11:50:36AM I THINK CRAs ARE FOR LAZY POLICY MAKERS.
11:50:39AM WE CAN MOVE THE MONEY AND CITY COUNCIL CAN MOVE IT WITH FIVE
11:50:42AM VOTES.
11:50:42AM I THINK WITH BOARD MEMBER VIERA'S EXCELLENT ADVOCACY, I
11:50:48AM THINK WE COULD GET FIVE VOTES AT THE CITY TO MOVE MONEY.
11:50:52AM AND WITH THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTING IT.
11:50:54AM AS WAS SAID EARLIER, JUST LIKE IN THE CASE OF EAST TAMPA, IT
11:50:58AM WILL TAKE YEARS TO PUT MONEY IN IT.
11:51:01AM AND THEN ALSO, WHEN WE GET READY TO MOVE -- IF WE GOT READY
11:51:04AM TO FUND SOMETHING ELSE THERE, THEN PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WILL
11:51:07AM SAY, WELL, THEY HAVE A CRA, WHY DO WE NEED TO PUT MONEY
11:51:10AM THERE?
11:51:10AM PART OF THE SAME ARGUMENT ABOUT EAST TAMPA.
11:51:12AM REALLY, CRAs -- AND YOU HEARD A LOT OF THE LANGUAGE IF YOU
11:51:15AM LISTEN CAREFULLY TO WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED THIS MORNING --
11:51:19AM CRAs, WHAT THEY REALLY ARE, THEY ARE TAXPAYER SUBSIDIZED
11:51:24AM GENTRIFICATION.
11:51:25AM THIS CITY, LOOK AT THE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS
11:51:27AM SPENT ON A DOWNTOWN REAL ESTATE SUBSIDY RATHER THAN SPENDING
11:51:31AM ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:51:31AM THAT IS THE TRACK RECORD OF THE CITY IN THE PAST.
11:51:35AM AS THIS BOARD AND THE LAST BOARD STARTED SHIFTING MONEY TO
11:51:39AM OTHER THINGS, BUT CRAs TYPICALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT HOW THE
11:51:42AM OTHERS WERE SET UP, THEY WERE SET UP TO SUBSIDIZE
11:51:45AM DEVELOPERS.
11:51:45AM NOTHING AGAINST ANY OF THE DEVELOPERS.
11:51:46AM IF I WAS A DEVELOPER, I'D WANT IT IF I COULD GET IT TOO.
11:51:51AM IT'S AGAINST CAPITALISM AND FREE MARKETS TO DO THAT.
11:51:53AM WHAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO IS FUND THINGS WHERE THERE IS A
11:51:57AM GAP.
11:51:58AM THE PEOPLE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS DO NOT WANT 20-STORY SHINY,
11:52:02AM EXPENSIVE, MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CONDOS UP AND DOWN THE RIVER.
11:52:05AM THEY WANT THEIR COMMUNITY TO BE BETTER.
11:52:06AM THEY WANT THEIR SCHOOLS TO BE BETTER.
11:52:08AM THEY WANT THE PARKS TO BE BETTER.
11:52:10AM THEY WANT THE SIDEWALKS AND ROADS TO BE BETTER.
11:52:12AM SAME THINGS EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS.
11:52:14AM WE CAN MOVE THAT MONEY UP THERE WITHOUT A CRA.
11:52:16AM THE WAY YOU GET MONEY IN A CRA IS BY DEVELOPMENT AND THE WAY
11:52:22AM THIS CITY IN THE PAST HAS GOTTEN MONEY IN CRA IS SUBSIDIZE
11:52:25AM DEVELOPERS.
11:52:26AM IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.
11:52:28AM GOES AGAINST EVERY ECONOMIC PRINCIPLE.
11:52:30AM YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
11:52:34AM VERSUS DEVELOPMENT OR REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
11:52:36AM GO TO TAMPA SCORECARD.COM AND LOOK AT HOW BAD WE'RE DOING IN
11:52:40AM POVERTY.
11:52:40AM THAT'S BECAUSE THIS CITY FOR MANY YEARS FOCUSED ON
11:52:43AM SUBSIDIZING DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN HELPING PEOPLE TO DO
11:52:46AM BETTER.
11:52:47AM WE NEED TO FOCUS PLANNING AND MONEY AROUND PEOPLE AND
11:52:50AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE ECONOMY RATHER THAN
11:52:54AM DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS SUBSIDIZING REAL ESTATE.
11:52:57AM REAL ESTATE IS AN IMPORTANT SECTOR OF OUR MARKET BUT IT'S
11:53:00AM NOT THE ONLY ONE.
11:53:01AM AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE THAT AWAY.
11:53:03AM PART OF IT IS HOW WE MEASURE SUCCESS.
11:53:06AM WE HAVE TO COMPARE OURSELVES TO OTHER CITIES, UNLIKE THE WAY
11:53:10AM THE MAYOR ROLLED OUT HER SCORECARD.
11:53:12AM WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER CITIES AND SHOW WHERE WE ARE
11:53:14AM FAILING.
11:53:15AM BECAUSE WE ARE FAILING IN POVERTY, DISPARITY RATES BETWEEN
11:53:18AM MEN AND WOMEN, BLACKS AND WHITES AND OTHERS.
11:53:20AM WE NEED TO IMPROVE HOME OWNERSHIP AND HELP PEOPLE BUILD
11:53:24AM THEIR OWN BUSINESSES.
11:53:25AM CRA, FOR EXAMPLE, DOES NOT ALLOW US TO HAVE PROGRAMS THAT
11:53:28AM HELP PEOPLE START SMALL BUSINESSES.
11:53:30AM WE CAN DO THAT WITHIN THE CITY AND WE NEED TO GET RID OF THE
11:53:34AM EDIFICE COMPLEX WHERE WE MEASURE SUCCESS ONLY IN TERMS OF
11:53:39AM BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT.
11:53:40AM COMMUNITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
11:53:43AM FIRST THING WE DO IN A CRA.
11:53:45AM LET'S AT LEAST WAIT UNTIL WE GET THAT BACK AND SEE WHAT WE
11:53:48AM NEED TO DO.
11:53:49AM SEE WHAT THE PLAN IS.
11:53:50AM HOPEFULLY BASED ON ROBUST PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WHICH I KNOW
11:53:53AM STEPHEN KNOWS HOW TO DO.
11:53:54AM CREATE AN ACTION LIST AND SEE IF THE CITY CAN FUND IT.
11:53:57AM IF WE CAN'T FUND IT AS A CITY, THEN TALK ABOUT A CRA.
11:54:01AM I WOULD SUGGEST PUTTING IN THE BYLAWS A PROHIBITION AGAINST
11:54:03AM DEVELOPER SUBSIDIES.
11:54:05AM SO I WOULD SAY YES, ABSOLUTELY 100% YES FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:54:10AM ABSOLUTELY NEED TO DO THINGS BUT THE VISION OF SULPHUR
11:54:12AM SPRINGS IS NOT TO LOOK LIKE BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
11:54:15AM THE VISION IS TO HELP THE PEOPLE THERE AND THE COMMUNITY BE
11:54:17AM BETTER.
11:54:17AM BOARD MEMBER VIERA, YOU GOT MY VOTE FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:54:23AM ALL YOU NEED IS THREE MORE, IN CASE THE MAYOR VETOES IT.
11:54:26AM I THINK WE COULD FIND THREE MORE VOTES.
11:54:28AM LET'S VOTE YES FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS AND NO TO ANOTHER CRA.
11:54:32AM THANK YOU.
11:54:35AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:54:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOW, YOU JUST STOLE A LOT OF EXACTLY WHAT
11:54:40AM I WANTED TO SAY, MR. CARLSON.
11:54:42AM THAT WAS EXACTLY RIGHT.
11:54:45AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND, SULPHUR SPRINGS
11:54:48AM IS AN AREA WITH A RICH HISTORY, AND IT'S ALSO AN AREA, WHAT
11:54:55AM IS LEFT OF SOME OF OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:54:57AM SOME OF IT IS SUBSTANDARD.
11:54:58AM THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO IMPROVE ON.
11:55:01AM WE HAVE TO HELP THE FOLKS CURRENTLY LIVING IN THE CITY OF
11:55:03AM TAMPA.
11:55:05AM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THESE PROGRAMS, I KEEP BANGING
11:55:09AM THAT DRUM.
11:55:10AM LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT CURRENTLY LIVE IN THE CITY
11:55:14AM OF TAMPA BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT MAKING TAMPA MORE ATTRACTIVE
11:55:17AM FOR PEOPLE TO COME LIVE HERE.
11:55:18AM TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN FIRST BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT
11:55:21AM PEOPLE WHO WANT TO LIVE HERE.
11:55:23AM SULPHUR SPRINGS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
11:55:25AM MENTION IT AGAIN, WHAT USED TO BE CALLED THE MAYOR'S
11:55:27AM CHALLENGE FUND, SULPHUR SPRINGS IS PRIME FOR SOMETHING LIKE
11:55:30AM THAT.
11:55:31AM OWNER REHAB.
11:55:32AM HELP PEOPLE KEEP THEIR HOUSES.
11:55:35AM HELP THE SENIOR CITIZENS THAT HAVE TROUBLE WITH ROOFS,
11:55:37AM PAINTING THEIR HOUSES, KEEPING THEIR YARDS UP.
11:55:40AM GETTING THEIR HOUSES PUT BACK UP INTO CODE.
11:55:44AM WE DON'T NEED TO TEAR THINGS DOWN TO REBUILD THEM.
11:55:47AM GUESS WHAT THAT DOES?
11:55:48AM GENTRIFICATION DRIVES THE PRICE UP AND DRIVES PEOPLE OUT OF
11:55:51AM HOMES.
11:55:52AM WE NEED TO KEEP PEOPLE IN HOUSES.
11:55:54AM LARGE SWATHES, I LOVE, EVERYBODY IS LISTENING, EVERYBODY
11:55:58AM TALKS ABOUT THAT DARN DOG TRACK.
11:56:01AM GUESS WHAT, THAT'S OWNED BY SOMEBODY.
11:56:02AM AND THAT PERSON LIKES WHAT THEY HAVE.
11:56:05AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO STEAL PROPERTY FROM HER.
11:56:08AM IT'S HER PROPERTY.
11:56:09AM SHE WILL RUN HER BUSINESS THE WAY SHE WANTS TO RUN HER
11:56:12AM BUSINESS.
11:56:13AM UNTIL THAT CHANGES, THAT'S GOING TO STAY THE WAY IT IS RIGHT
11:56:15AM NOW.
11:56:15AM NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
11:56:17AM SOME OF THE OTHER PIECES OF PROPERTY, THERE'S GOING TO BE --
11:56:22AM IT WILL COME ITS TIME.
11:56:23AM WE DON'T HAVE TO SUBSIDIZE THAT STUFF.
11:56:25AM IT WILL HAPPEN ON ITS OWN SOME OF THE OTHER LARGE COMMERCIAL
11:56:28AM AREAS.
11:56:28AM WHAT WE CAN DO IS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE PEOPLE THAT
11:56:31AM LIVE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:56:33AM WE CAN IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF THEIR LIFE.
11:56:35AM IMPROVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT LEADS TO THEIR SCHOOLS.
11:56:38AM MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALL HAVE SAFE SIDEWALKS.
11:56:40AM MAKE SURE THAT THEIR ROADS ARE PAVED.
11:56:42AM MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ADEQUATE LIGHTING.
11:56:44AM MAKE SURE THAT THEIR STREETS ARE SAFE SO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE
11:56:47AM THERE CAN FEEL SAFE AND SECURE IN THEIR HOMES AND DRUG-FREE
11:56:51AM ENVIRONMENT.
11:56:51AM AGAIN, LET'S TAKE CARE OF THE SENIOR CITIZENS UP THERE.
11:56:54AM LET'S DOUBLE DOWN ON THOSE TYPE OF PROGRAMS.
11:56:57AM THAT'S THE HEART OF WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING AS PUBLIC
11:57:00AM SERVANTS, TAKE CARE OF THOSE FOLKS, THE SENIOR CITIZENS THAT
11:57:04AM HAVE LIVED THEIR LONG LIFE.
11:57:06AM LET THEM AGE IN PLACE, HELP THEM STAY IN HOMES.
11:57:09AM LET'S DO PROGRAMS LIKE THAT.
11:57:10AM I DON'T SEE THE ANSWER AS A CRA.
11:57:12AM WE HAVE THE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO US.
11:57:14AM THIS FISCAL YEAR 25 IS COMING, WE'LL BE SITTING TALKING
11:57:18AM ABOUT THE BUDGET.
11:57:18AM LET'S GET THE VOTES AND LET'S DO IT.
11:57:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
11:57:21AM ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
11:57:22AM JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:57:26AM ISN'T IT A HEAVILY POPULATED LANDLORD-OWNED COMMUNITY WHERE
11:57:31AM THERE ARE A BUNCH OF RENTERS?
11:57:32AM DO YOU KNOW THE PERCENTAGE OF THAT?
11:57:34AM >>STEPHEN BENSON: I DON'T HAVE THE PERCENTAGE, BUT IT IS ONE
11:57:37AM OF THE HIGHEST IN THE CITY, YES.
11:57:41AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE MENTIONED THE MAYOR'S CHALLENGE FUND, I
11:57:43AM THINK WITHOUT A INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS AND
11:57:46AM CREATING A CRA, WE REALLY SHOULD DIVE INTO AN OPPORTUNITY TO
11:57:50AM SUPPORT THE POSSIBILITY OF INCREASING HOME OWNERSHIP AND
11:57:57AM REHABILITATION OF THE HOME STRUCTURES THAT EXIST IN SULPHUR
11:57:59AM SPRINGS.
11:58:01AM I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE, TAMPA HEIGHTS, WHICH WAS THE
11:58:04AM FIRST DEVELOPED COMMUNITY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WERE BEGGING
11:58:07AM PEOPLE TO COME IN AND REDEVELOP HOMES WHEN IT WAS
11:58:11AM SIGNIFICANT SLUM AND BLIGHT.
11:58:13AM NOW PEOPLE WOULD EQUATE IT TO BEING GENTRIFIED.
11:58:16AM WHAT HAPPENS IS, AND IT'S OUT OF OUR CONTROL, WHEN PEOPLE
11:58:20AM START DEVELOPING COMMUNITIES, OTHER PEOPLE ARE ATTRACTED TO
11:58:23AM THEM.
11:58:23AM AND THEN IT JUST BALLOONS INTO THE POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT IS.
11:58:29AM AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
11:58:32AM INITIALLY IT WAS SIGNIFICANT SLUM AND BLIGHT AND NOW, YOU
11:58:37AM KNOW, THE BEAUTIFICATION IS THERE AND PEOPLE HAVE MOVED INTO
11:58:40AM THE COMMUNITY.
11:58:41AM THEY LEFT RIVER VIEW AND APOLLO BEACH TO COME LIVE CLOSER TO
11:58:46AM DOWNTOWN.
11:58:47AM SULPHUR SPRINGS DOES HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE DON'T
11:58:50AM HAVE TO CREATE A CRA TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
11:58:54AM WE SHOULD JUST LOOK AT THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE DONE IN
11:58:57AM THE PAST UNDER DIFFERENT PROGRAMMING FOR IMPROVING HOME
11:59:02AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:59:04AM THE POSSIBILITY OF GETTING SOME OF THESE LANDLORDS TO SELL
11:59:07AM THEIR PROPERTIES THAT THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN FIXING UP.
11:59:11AM THEY ARE MAINTAINING THE STATUS QUO AND COLLECTING RENT WHEN
11:59:15AM THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LONG-TERM TENANTS TO BE ABLE TO
11:59:18AM BUILD WELL AND EQUITY IN THE HOMES THAT THEY HAVE RENTED
11:59:23AM FOLKS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
11:59:24AM I THINK THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES IN THAT WAY.
11:59:26AM ANOTHER COMMENT, YES, AND WE'LL GO TO LUNCH SOON.
11:59:29AM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
11:59:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: I'M PRETTY GOOD AT MATH.
11:59:32AM I KNOW WHERE THE VOTES ARE GOING ON THIS ONE.
11:59:34AM ONE MOTION I'LL BE MAKING AT CITY COUNCIL ON A WORKSHOP ON
11:59:39AM SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:59:41AM ONE THING I WOULD ASK, AND I DO WANT TO MAKE MY INTENT VERY
11:59:45AM CLEAR.
11:59:46AM FOLKS SAY THAT CRAs TIE PEOPLE'S HANDS, YEAH, AND TO AN
11:59:50AM EXTENT THEY DO.
11:59:50AM BUT I WANT TO TIE PEOPLE'S HANDS TO INVEST MORE MONEY IN
11:59:54AM SULPHUR SPRINGS.
11:59:55AM I DON'T THINK 5, 10, 15 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WE'LL
11:59:58AM CONSISTENTLY BE DOING THAT.
11:59:58AM YOU KNOW WHY?
11:59:59AM AREAS LIKE SULPHUR SPRINGS GET IGNORED.
12:00:02PM REASON SAY, OH, HAVEN'T DONE A LOT FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
12:00:05PM A LOT OF THESE UNDERPRIVILEGED BLIGHTED AREAS AREN'T
12:00:10PM INVOLVED, RIGHT?
12:00:10PM SULPHUR SPRINGS IS ONE OF THEM.
12:00:12PM SO WE HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT FROM SULPHUR SPRINGS, BUT THEY GOT
12:00:16PM TO HEAR A LOT MORE FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THAT'S MY
12:00:18PM INTENT IN PUTTING THIS THING FORWARD.
12:00:21PM I WILL MAKE ONE MOTION WHICH IS THE CRA DISCUSSION FOR
12:00:24PM SULPHUR SPRINGS, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SHUT THE DOOR ON
12:00:28PM THAT.
12:00:28PM I THINK THAT WOULD BE UNREASONABLE.
12:00:31PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALKED ABOUT FIRST HEARING FROM MR.
12:00:34PM BENSON IN CITY COUNCIL ON THE UPDATE ON SULPHUR SPRINGS.
12:00:37PM MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THE WORKSHOP AND THEN MAYBE WE HAVE THIS
12:00:40PM ITEM COME BACK TO US IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.
12:00:43PM JUST FOR AN UPDATE, MAYBE WE GET A REPORT AND RECEIVE AND
12:00:48PM FILE BECAUSE, MAN, WE'RE MAKING GOOD ON SULPHUR SPRINGS.
12:00:51PM MAYBE WE'RE NOT.
12:00:52PM WHAT I'LL DO, IF I MAY, A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM,
12:00:55PM SINCE WE'RE NOT GOING TO OPEN UP THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT
12:00:57PM FOR ANYTHING, SO WHY TAKE THIS UP RIGHT NOW, OF COURSE, WE
12:01:01PM DON'T HAVE THE VOTES ON IT, BUT TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION
12:01:03PM ON A CRA FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS FOR OCTOBER OF 2024, AND THEN
12:01:07PM I'LL MAKE THE MOTION AT CITY COUNCIL FOR A WORKSHOP ON THAT
12:01:11PM ISSUE, IF THAT'S PERMISSIBLE.
12:01:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD
12:01:16PM MEMBER VIERA.
12:01:17PM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
12:01:19PM ANY DISCUSSION?
12:01:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE WE VOTE.
12:01:21PM YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP PEOPLE OUT IN ANY CITY INCLUDING
12:01:23PM THIS ONE, FIND OUT HOW MANY REVERSE MORTGAGES THERE ARE IN
12:01:28PM AN AREA.
12:01:29PM YOU SEE AN ACTOR GOING ON TV GETTING PAID TO SAY HOW
12:01:36PM WONDERFUL IT IS.
12:01:37PM I CAN NAME YOU FOUR OR FIVE INDIVIDUALS, TWO OF THEM PASSED
12:01:43PM AWAY.
12:01:44PM WHEN YOU'RE HOOKED, YOU'RE HOOKED ON REVERSE MORTGAGE.
12:01:48PM FIND OUT WHAT THE INTEREST RATE IS AND THESE SO-CALLED
12:01:54PM INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO HELP EVERYBODY OUT, THIS
12:01:57PM GOVERNMENT, I THINK THIS GOVERNMENT TOLD THEM ABSOLUTELY
12:02:01PM NOT, THAT WHEN THEY SELL YOU SOMETHING, AIR-CONDITIONER,
12:02:06PM SOMETHING, IT GOES AS A LIEN ON YOUR TAXES.
12:02:11PM IF YOU DON'T PAY IT, YOU LOSE YOUR HOUSE.
12:02:13PM FIND OUT HOW MANY OF THOSE YOU HAVE.
12:02:17PM AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
12:02:20PM RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST MAKING GOOD WORDS SOUND BETTER.
12:02:26PM FIND OUT WHAT THE REAL PROBLEM IS, HOW MANY REVERSE
12:02:29PM MORTGAGES.
12:02:30PM AND HOW MANY OF THEM GO TO THE OTHER ONE.
12:02:34PM I DON'T WANT TO SAY IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT THE CITY TO GET
12:02:37PM SUED.
12:02:37PM I IT TELL YOU THE COMPANIES DOING IT.
12:02:40PM I CAN TELL YOU WHERE THREE OF THEM AT, CALLED ME AND I WENT
12:02:47PM TO SEE THEM AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT THEY ARE GOING
12:02:50PM THROUGH.
12:02:50PM FIND ALL THAT OUT AND I'LL TELL YOU WHERE THE PROBLEM IS AT.
12:02:56PM THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
12:02:57PM THANK YOU.
12:02:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:02:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY RESPECTFULLY TO
12:03:03PM BOARD MEMBER VIERA, I DON'T SUPPORT THE CRA AT ALL.
12:03:06PM ANY NEW CRA.
12:03:08PM SO I'LL VOTE NO ON THIS.
12:03:09PM BUT WHEN YOU MAKE THE OTHER MOTIONS REGARDING SULPHUR
12:03:12PM SPRINGS, I'LL VOTE YES.
12:03:13PM THANK YOU.
12:03:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:03:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DITTO.
12:03:16PM I DON'T SEE MYSELF CHANGING MY MIND ON THE CRAs.
12:03:20PM SO I'M GOING TO ALSO VOTE NO ON BRINGING THIS BACK.
12:03:24PM NOT ONLY ON BRINGING IT BACK, BECAUSE IT COSTS MONEY TO
12:03:27PM BRING THINGS BACK.
12:03:28PM IT COSTS STAFF TIME.
12:03:29PM STAFF HAS A LOT OF OTHER THINGS TO DO.
12:03:33PM I DON'T SEE THE OPINION OF THIS BOARD CHANGING.
12:03:35PM BUT WHEN YOU DO BRING IT BEFORE COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION, FOR
12:03:39PM WHAT WE CAN DO ON COUNCIL, I WILL SUPPORT THAT.
12:03:41PM BUT AS FAR AS BRINGING IT FORWARD, I WANT TO SAVE STAFF THE
12:03:45PM TIME.
12:03:46PM I DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE TO SPIN THEIR WHEELS AND INVEST
12:03:48PM TIME, MONEY AND ENERGY ON THIS THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO
12:03:51PM ANYWHERE.
12:03:52PM I THINK WE AS A BOARD AND US AS A COUNCIL WE NEED TO BE MORE
12:03:55PM COGNIZANT OF WHAT WE ASK STAFF TO DO.
12:03:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
12:03:59PM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
12:03:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: I APPRECIATE THE REMARKS ON STAFF.
12:04:02PM ALWAYS WORKED WELL WITH STAFF AND HAVE GREAT RESPECT WITH
12:04:04PM STAFF AND RELATIONSHIP WITH STAFF.
12:04:06PM I DON'T THINK THIS MOTION IS THE PLACE TO START LOWERING
12:04:10PM MOTIONS FOR STAFF.
12:04:11PM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
12:04:12PM THANK YOU.
12:04:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR BY BOARD
12:04:16PM MEMBER VIERA.
12:04:17PM SECOND BY MANISCALCO.
12:04:18PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
12:04:21PM >> AYE.
12:04:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET'S DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THAT.
12:04:25PM >>THE CLERK: MANISCALCO?
12:04:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
12:04:29PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
12:04:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CRA?
12:04:34PM NO.
12:04:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
12:04:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
12:04:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
12:04:41PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO.
12:04:42PM >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION FAILED DUE TO MIRANDA, CARLSON,
12:04:46PM HURTAK, CLENDENIN, AND HENDERSON VOTING NO.
12:04:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
12:04:49PM WE ARE GOING TO BREAK FOR LUNCH.
12:04:52PM A MOTION TO BREAK FOR LUNCH.
12:04:53PM IS THAT A MOTION?
12:04:57PM >>ERICA MOODY: I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
12:05:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE RECOGNIZED, MS. MOODY.
12:05:02PM >>ERICA MOODY: WE DO HAVE FOUR ITEMS LEFT BEFORE WE BREAK
12:05:04PM FOR LUNCH.
12:05:05PM OUT OF RESPECT, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO HEAR THE
12:05:08PM EAST TAMPA SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM MOTION.
12:05:11PM IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I'M WILLING TO MOVE MY DIRECTOR'S
12:05:13PM REPORT TO THE LAST ITEM TO BE HEARD TODAY AND ALL EAST TAMPA
12:05:16PM ITEMS WILL SHIFT UP.
12:05:16PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GREAT IDEA.
12:05:17PM LET'S ADDRESS THAT AND THEN AFTER LUNCH WE'LL GO WITH THE
12:05:21PM DIRECTOR'S REPORT, IS WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING?
12:05:23PM >>ERICA MOODY: NO.
12:05:24PM WE CAN BREAK FOR LUNCH, AND WHEN WE COME BACK, IT WILL BE
12:05:26PM EAST TAMPA.
12:05:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE TO SAY -- THANK YOU, I'M SORRY.
12:05:31PM I SIT ON THE AHAC BOARD, AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY
12:05:37PM COMMITTEE, AND THEY HAVE A MANDATORY MEETING.
12:05:40PM AND BY MANDATORY, IT MEANS IF I DON'T SHOW UP FOR THE
12:05:42PM MEETINGS WE COULD LOSE OUR SHIP FUNDING KIND OF MANDATORY.
12:05:45PM THAT'S IT.
12:05:46PM THAT IS THIS AFTERNOON.
12:05:48PM I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RETURN AFTER LUNCH FOR ANY OF THIS
12:05:52PM CONVERSATION.
12:05:53PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: HOW LONG WILL THE PRESENTATION ON THE YOUTH
12:05:55PM PROGRAM TAKE?
12:05:57PM >>ERICA MOODY: KEEPING ALL PRESENTATIONS FIVE TO SEVEN
12:05:59PM MINUTES.
12:06:01PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THAT IS THE LAST SUBSTANTIVE ITEM BEFORE
12:06:03PM THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
12:06:04PM DIRECTOR'S REPORT YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO SET A NUMBER OF
12:06:07PM ITEMS.
12:06:07PM >>ERICA MOODY: THAT'S RIGHT.
12:06:08PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I DON'T THINK THESE ITEMS WILL TAKE LONG.
12:06:10PM YOU MAY WANT TO HOLD LUNCH AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THROUGH THE
12:06:13PM AGENDA.
12:06:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:06:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I'M FLEXIBLE.
12:06:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I TRIED TO GET THEM TO RESCHEDULE AND
12:06:20PM WOULDN'T.
12:06:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU THINK 30 MINUTES WE'LL BE DONE?
12:06:23PM >>ERICA MOODY: THAT IS OUR GOAL.
12:06:24PM WITH THAT, I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO MOVE THE ITEMS UP.
12:06:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
12:06:29PM SORRY.
12:06:30PM HE ALREADY MADE THE MOTION.
12:06:34PM VIERA MADE THE MOTION.
12:06:36PM IT WAS SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
12:06:37PM I JUST WANT IT FOR THE RECORD, CLERK.
12:06:40PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
12:06:41PM OPPOSED?
12:06:42PM OKAY.
12:06:42PM WE WILL PROCEED.
12:06:43PM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU.
12:06:45PM EAST TAMPA MANAGER, MR. CEDRIC McCRAY WILL TAKE THE STAND
12:06:48PM AND TALK ABOUT THE EAST TAMPA SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM.
12:06:50PM WITH THAT, T & I CAN BRING UP THE PRESENTATION THAT
12:06:53PM ACCOMPANIES IT.
12:07:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE AN APPOINTMENT THAT'S
12:07:07PM GOING TO COME UP FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.
12:07:10PM IT HASN'T COME UP.
12:07:11PM AS SOON AS IT DOES, I WILL STEP OUT FOR FIVE MINUTES.
12:07:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NO PROBLEM.
12:07:47PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CEDRIC McCRAY, EAST TAMPA CRA MANAGER.
12:07:50PM WE'LL GO RIGHT INTO THE PowerPoint RELATED TO THE EAST
12:07:54PM TAMPA SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM AND THE EAST TAMPA YOUTH
12:07:58PM LEADERSHIP AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP PROGRAM.
12:08:00PM FIRST, WE HAVE THE BOARD MOTION FOR EACH PROGRAM TO COME
12:08:06PM BACK AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE.
12:08:08PM WE'LL BE DOING THAT HERE AT THIS TIME.
12:08:10PM THE PROGRAM GOALS WERE TO DEMONSTRATE LEADERSHIP SKILLS AND
12:08:17PM ULTIMATELY OUTSIDE OF THE YOUTH THAT PARTICIPATING JUST
12:08:21PM HAVING EXPOSURE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT STAFF TO
12:08:24PM WORK ON SOME SOFTER SKILLS AND LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT AS
12:08:28PM WELL AS EXPOSE THEM TO CAREERS AND OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE
12:08:32PM CITY OF TAMPA.
12:08:34PM WITH THAT, WE RESTRUCTURED THE PROGRAM LAST YEAR WITH THE
12:08:38PM STANCE OF MS. RUGINA CASTILLO AND YOU ALL APPROVED HIRING A
12:08:43PM COORDINATOR TO HELP WORK WITH THE YOUTH THROUGHOUT THE
12:08:46PM SUMMER, MR. ED HUNLEY.
12:08:48PM THE RESULTS OF THAT WENT VERY WELL, SO I'LL JUST KIND OF
12:08:52PM WALK YOU ALL THROUGH WHAT TRANSITIONED OR WHAT HAPPENED LAST
12:08:57PM YEAR AND HOW WE ANTICIPATE TRANSITIONING MOVING FORWARD.
12:09:00PM WE DID HOLD A PARENT MEETING IN EARLY JUNE PRIOR TO THE
12:09:05PM PROGRAM STARTING JUST TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE YOUTH
12:09:07PM THAT HAD BEEN SELECTED THROUGH THE HIRING PROCESS, AS WELL
12:09:10PM AS THE PARENTS, SO THEY KNEW AND HAD CLEAR EXPECTATIONS
12:09:14PM ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED.
12:09:15PM WE ACTUALLY ALSO INVOLVED TWO OF OUR FORMER CHAIRS IN THE
12:09:20PM PICTURE YOU SEE TO THE RIGHT, TO KIND OF SPEAK TO THE
12:09:23PM IMPORTANCE AND WHY THEY WERE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT THE SUMMER
12:09:26PM YOUTH PROGRAM WITH THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
12:09:30PM YOU'VE HEARD FROM MS. BURTON THIS MORNING DURING PUBLIC
12:09:34PM COMMENT.
12:09:34PM SOME OF THE FIELD STUDY OPPORTUNITIES, TRIPS THAT THEY TOOK
12:09:38PM TO THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS, HANNA AVENUE, THE FIRE
12:09:41PM DEPARTMENT, CHIEF TRIPP AND CHIEF COLLINS WERE VERY HEAVILY
12:09:45PM INVOLVED IN WORKING WITH OUR YOUTH AND ABOUT THE
12:09:48PM POSSIBILITIES OF WORKING WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE FIRE
12:09:53PM DEPARTMENT.
12:09:53PM THERE WERE ALSO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
12:09:59PM OUTSIDE OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, SKILLS CENTER.
12:10:02PM THEY HEARD FROM CITY STAFF.
12:10:04PM FROM OUR OWN VERY OWN DIRECTOR WHO SPOKE, EXPOSED THEM TO
12:10:09PM DIFFERENT CAREERS AS IT RELATES TO ERWIN TECHNICAL,
12:10:13PM BREWSTER.
12:10:14PM THEY GOT A FULL GAMUT OF OPPORTUNITIES NOT ONLY WITH THE
12:10:17PM CITY OF TAMPA BUT OTHER TECHNICAL COLLEGES OR INSTITUTIONS
12:10:22PM THEY COULD ASSIST POST GRADUATION.
12:10:24PM WE FINISHED WITH THE CAPSTONE EVENT.
12:10:29PM SEVERAL OF THE CRA BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT PARTICIPATED IN
12:10:31PM THAT EVENT, AND THAT WAS VERY STUDENT LED.
12:10:35PM THE ADULTS, WE JUST STOOD IN THE BACKGROUND TO ALLOW THEM TO
12:10:38PM KIND OF DO THEIR THING.
12:10:40PM THEY PUT THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION TOGETHER.
12:10:42PM I THINK THOSE WHO WERE IN ATTENDANCE WERE VERY IMPRESSED
12:10:46PM WITH THE LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT AND JUST THE COMMENTS FROM THE
12:10:50PM KIDS AND YOUNG PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATED DURING THE SUMMER OF
12:10:54PM 2023.
12:10:55PM AND WE PLAN TO DO THE SAME THING THIS SUMMER AS WELL.
12:10:59PM AS IT RELATES TO PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY, THERE WERE 26
12:11:05PM PARTICIPANTS.
12:11:05PM WE HAD FIVE FEMALE, 21 MALE.
12:11:08PM 6 OF THE STUDENTS GRADUATED LAST SUMMER, PRIOR TO THE
12:11:13PM PROGRAM, WE HAD TWO ATTENDING FOUR-YEAR UNIVERSITIES AND WE
12:11:17PM HAD SIX THAT OBTAINED PERMANENT EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY OF
12:11:21PM TAMPA.
12:11:24PM ACTUALLY ONE WAS HIRED THROUGH ONE OF THE APPRENTICE
12:11:27PM PROGRAMS, AND THAT WAS BASED ON AN INDIVIDUAL THAT ATTENDED
12:11:30PM THE CAPSTONE EVENT THAT MORNING AND OFFERED ONE OF THE YOUNG
12:11:35PM PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY.
12:11:36PM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IN THE PICTURE, NOT THIS ABOUT ME,
12:11:39PM BUT THE LAST DAY OF THE PROGRAM, JULY 31st, I'M IN PUBLIX
12:11:45PM HERE IN THE CITY, AND I HEAR "MR. McCRAY."
12:11:48PM AND IT WAS E'MONTRE WASHINGTON.
12:11:52PM HE HAD WORKED FROM 7:00 IN THE MORNING UNTIL 3:00 AT LOWRY
12:11:56PM YARD HIS LAST DAY.
12:11:57PM THEN I PROBABLY SAW HIM 5:30, 6:00 THAT EVENING AT PUBLIX.
12:12:00PM IMAGINE THE AMOUNT OF TIME HE SPENT JUST WORKING DURING THE
12:12:05PM PARTICULAR DAY.
12:12:05PM TO THE RIGHT IS DONALD WALKER.
12:12:08PM HE IS IN SCHOOL AT ALABAMA STATE UNIVERSITY.
12:12:10PM I WAS ATTENDING A FRATERNAL MEETING AND KNEW HE WAS THERE,
12:12:13PM REACHED OUT AND I MET HIM IN THE STUDENT UNION.
12:12:16PM WE HAD A CHANCE TO CATCH UP.
12:12:18PM BUT THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF EFFECTS AND HOW WE'RE FOLLOWING UP
12:12:21PM WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS.
12:12:23PM WITH THE PROGRAM, PHASE TWO -- PHASE ONE IS WHAT I JUST
12:12:29PM BRIEFLY DESCRIBED EARLIER, A FEW MOMENTS AGO.
12:12:31PM PHASE TWO, THE STUDENTS WOULD STILL WORK 32 HOURS PER WEEK
12:12:35PM AND THEN THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED AN INTERN, AND THEY WILL --
12:12:40PM THOSE PARTICIPANTS FROM THE CITY DEPARTMENTS, THEY WILL
12:12:43PM EXECUTE JOB RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES FROM AND WITHIN A
12:12:48PM SELECTED DEPARTMENT.
12:12:49PM THERE WILL ALSO BE THREE DAYS A WEEK DOING TRADITIONAL WORK.
12:12:55PM THE ONE DAY A WEEK WILL BE DEVELOPING THE SOFT SKILLS, AND
12:12:58PM THAT WILL BE KIND OF BUILDING ON WHAT THEY WERE EXPOSED TO
12:13:01PM LAST SUMMER WITH MR. HUNLEY.
12:13:03PM PHASE THREE WOULD BE SIMILAR, BUT THE INTERN PARTICIPANTS
12:13:10PM WILL WORK WITHIN ONE OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND PARTICIPATE
12:13:13PM IN A FOUR-DAY WORKWEEK AND THEN BIWEEKLY VISIT BY THE
12:13:17PM COORDINATOR ON THE SPECIFIC INTERNSHIP SITE WHERE THEY WOULD
12:13:22PM BE LOCATED.
12:13:23PM AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT WOULD BE THE COORDINATOR THAT
12:13:26PM WOULD BE HIRED, AGAIN, FOR THIS SUMMER.
12:13:28PM CURRENTLY, WE'VE RECEIVED OVER 73 TOTAL APPLICATIONS.
12:13:35PM 54 OF THOSE THROUGH THE PRESCREENING PROCESS WERE SCHEDULED
12:13:40PM TO MOVE ON.
12:13:42PM AND WE ARE SLATED TO HIRE 36 PENDING THE BACKGROUND CHECKS
12:13:46PM THAT WILL BE CONDUCTED.
12:13:50PM THEN I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO
12:13:53PM THE NUMBERS AND THE INCREASE.
12:13:56PM AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW PRESENTLY WITH THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE
12:13:59PM IN PLACE, THE 72 WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT.
12:14:02PM WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH PARKS AND RECREATION AND SOME OTHER
12:14:06PM ENTITIES TO SEE ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE PLACEMENT FOR
12:14:10PM APPLICANTS THROUGH THE CITY, EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT
12:14:14PM SPECIFICALLY IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA PROGRAM.
12:14:17PM AND THERE IS A JOB FAIR FOR SUMMER YOUTH THAT WILL BE TAKING
12:14:20PM PLACE ON APRIL 13.
12:14:22PM WE ALSO ARE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH SOME OF THE VENDORS THAT
12:14:25PM HAVE REACHED OUT TO MS. CASTILLO, BUSCH GARDENS AND THE LIKE
12:14:28PM THAT WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO TABLE AN EVENT SOMETIME IN MAY TO
12:14:35PM OFFER JOBS THAT HAVE GONE UNFILLED FOR THE SUMMER.
12:14:38PM SO, WHAT WE ARE ASKING AND INFORM YOU AS A TRANSITION PLAN
12:14:46PM IS SIMPLY THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM BE ADOPTED.
12:14:50PM THERE IS A CONVERSATION TO MOVE IT UNDER MS. WYNN'S
12:14:53PM DEPARTMENT.
12:14:55PM MS. CASTILLO, THE DIVERSITY COORDINATOR, WOULD ASSUME THE
12:14:58PM ROLE OF THE COORDINATOR POSITION, OR COORDINATING THE SUMMER
12:15:02PM PROGRAM SPECIFICALLY ON TOP OF SOME OF THE OTHER
12:15:04PM RESPONSIBILITIES SHE HAS HERE AT THE CITY.
12:15:06PM MS. WYNN HAS REQUESTED A BUDGET ALLOCATION IN THE FY '25
12:15:13PM NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS BUDGET TO ROLL THE
12:15:17PM PROGRAM AND CONTINUE UNDER THAT UMBRELLA.
12:15:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: STOP RIGHT THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE
12:15:26PM OF QUESTIONS.
12:15:27PM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK FOLLOWED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
12:15:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:15:31PM ARE YOU PRETTY MUCH DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION?
12:15:35PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: A COUPLE MORE THINGS.
12:15:36PM ANOTHER PORTION WAS THE YOUTH LEADERSHIP COMPONENT.
12:15:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
12:15:40PM THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO STOP FOR THIS.
12:15:42PM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE NEED TO
12:15:48PM ROLL THIS INTO THE CITY'S PROGRAM IS BECAUSE THIS PROGRAM,
12:15:54PM ONCE WE ARE NOT WORKING WITH THE WASTE MANAGEMENT TEAM, WE
12:16:03PM ARE NO LONGER ADDRESSING SLUM AND BLIGHT.
12:16:05PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THAT IS CORRECT.
12:16:06PM THAT IS ONE COMPONENT OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE CAN USE TO
12:16:10PM JUSTIFY BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTUALLY WORKING WITH THE
12:16:12PM NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT TEAM THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, AND
12:16:16PM THAT'S HOW WE JUSTIFY ERADICATING SLUM AND BLIGHT.
12:16:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST MOVING THE PROGRAM
12:16:25PM UNDER NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS SO THAT WE CAN
12:16:28PM EXPAND IT, BUT BASICALLY ALLOW YOUTH TO PARTICIPATE IN A
12:16:35PM BROADER PART OF THE CITY INSTEAD OF JUST COMMUNITY
12:16:39PM ENHANCEMENT.
12:16:39PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CORRECT.
12:16:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THAT WAS QUESTION NUMBER ONE.
12:16:43PM QUESTION NUMBER TWO, THE BUDGET ALLOCATION FOR THE PROGRAM,
12:16:48PM THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID THEY WOULD LIKE THIS EXPANDED TO BE
12:16:52PM MORE FOR NEXT YEAR.
12:16:54PM SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THE BUDGET ALLOCATION WHEN IT COMES TO
12:16:58PM US IS FOR THAT 72 STUDENTS OR POSSIBLY MORE, IF POSSIBLE.
12:17:04PM JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT ADMINISTRATOR WYNN KNOWS THAT, THAT
12:17:10PM WE WOULD LIKE IT TO BE FOR 72, AND THEN I WOULD ALSO ON
12:17:16PM THAT, MR. HUNT WAS JUST PHENOMENAL.
12:17:19PM IF THAT WAS THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS HIRED FOR A PART OF THAT
12:17:24PM LAST YEAR AND HAD A REALLY GOOD RAPPORT WITH THE STUDENTS.
12:17:27PM I WAS THERE AT THEIR GRADUATION, AND THEY WERE AMAZING, AND
12:17:30PM HE WAS AMAZING.
12:17:30PM I REALLY HOPE THAT HE WILL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE ON WITH THIS
12:17:34PM PROGRAM AND THEN HOPEFULLY MAKE THIS A WIDER PROGRAM TO GO
12:17:39PM FORWARD.
12:17:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
12:17:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
12:17:43PM I HEARD THE NUMBER 72 THIS MORNING, BUT I SEE 73
12:17:47PM APPLICATIONS.
12:17:48PM THERE'S 72 AVAILABLE SPOTS?
12:17:50PM WHERE DID THAT NUMBER COME FROM?
12:17:52PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE WERE A TOTAL OF
12:17:54PM 73 APPLICATIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE APPLICATION
12:17:58PM PORTAL.
12:17:59PM AND AFTER THE PRELIMINARY REVIEW, BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN
12:18:03PM INFORMATION REQUIRED, I BELIEVE 50 PLUS -- 54 WERE APPROVED
12:18:08PM WITH THE PRESCREENING PROCESS.
12:18:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS CAN BE
12:18:12PM ACCOMMODATED?
12:18:12PM LET'S SAY YOU HAVE 73 APPLICATIONS AND ALL 73 ARE ELIGIBLE,
12:18:16PM DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE 73 YOUNG
12:18:19PM INDIVIDUALS?
12:18:20PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: LOGISTICALLY, THAT WOULD BE VERY TOUGH
12:18:24PM BECAUSE WE HAVE MYSELF WHO HAS MULTIPLE RESPONSIBILITIES.
12:18:28PM WE DO HAVE A COORDINATOR, MR. HUNLEY.
12:18:30PM AND THEN WE HAVE MS. CASTILLO WHO IS IN, AND SHE'S FLUID.
12:18:35PM SHE'S NOT THERE THE ENTIRE TIME.
12:18:37PM NO CLASSROOM WOULD YOU HAVE 72 CHILDREN WITH ONE EDUCATOR OR
12:18:43PM RESPONSIBLE ADULT.
12:18:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THROUGH THE SCREENING PROCESS, 73 APPS,
12:18:47PM 54 ELIGIBLE, 36 IS THE LIKELY NUMBER THAT WOULD, IF
12:18:51PM EVERYBODY SAYS YES AND MOVES FORWARD, YOU'LL HAVE 36 PEOPLE.
12:18:54PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CORRECT.
12:18:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OVER THE YEARS I'VE HEARD THE PICKING UP
12:18:58PM TRASH THING.
12:19:00PM WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?
12:19:01PM BECAUSE WHEN I PULLED UP THE LINKS AND YOU GO TO THE SURVEY
12:19:04PM AT THE BEGINNING, ONCE YOU OPEN EVERYTHING, I SEE A VARIETY
12:19:10PM OF JOBS AND POSITIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
12:19:12PM IS THAT CORRECT?
12:19:12PM IT'S NOT JUST PICKING UP TRASH.
12:19:15PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CORRECT.
12:19:16PM PARKS AND REC RAMPING UP FOR THE SUMMER, THERE ARE MULTIPLE
12:19:19PM POSITIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
12:19:23PM >> THESE CHILDREN PICK UP TRASH --
12:19:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. BURTON --
12:19:28PM >> DON'T GET CONFUSED.
12:19:30PM THEY ARE --
12:19:31PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: PLEASE, NO ADDRESSING FROM THE AUDIENCE.
12:19:34PM THIS IS STAFF REPORT.
12:19:35PM >> THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
12:19:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. McCRAY, IN ROLLING THIS INTO --
12:19:42PM UNDER ADMINISTRATOR WYNN, THIS WOULD OPEN IT UP TO DIFFERENT
12:19:45PM POSITIONS.
12:19:46PM IT COULD BE WITH PARKS AND REC.
12:19:48PM IT COULD ANY OTHER PLACE IN THE CITY THAT WOULD HAVE JOB
12:19:52PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
12:19:53PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THAT IS CORRECT.
12:19:55PM WITH PHASE TWO AND PHASE THREE, THE VISION IS TO, YOU KNOW,
12:19:58PM PARTNER WITH VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND SOME OF THEM, AND I
12:20:01PM WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO LIST ALL OF THEM, BUT TO HAVE AGREED TO
12:20:06PM TAKE ON INTERNS.
12:20:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT BROADENS THE OPPORTUNITIES.
12:20:10PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CORRECT.
12:20:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES IT OPEN IT UP FOR MORE POSITIONS,
12:20:13PM MORE APPLICATIONS? LET'S SAY A HUNDRED PEOPLE.
12:20:15PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THAT IS A POSSIBILITY.
12:20:18PM THE NUMBERS WE PASSED ON TO MS. WYNN WERE 36.
12:20:23PM ULTIMATELY THAT WOULD BE -- HAVE TO BE -- HER DEPARTMENT'S
12:20:26PM DECISION TO INCREASE THOSE NUMBERS.
12:20:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
12:20:29PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:20:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUST A COUPLE --
12:20:34PM >> FOR THE RECORD, ALIS DRUMGO, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR
12:20:37PM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
12:20:39PM SO PART OF THIS -- I JUST WANT TO SUPPORT THE DISCUSSION
12:20:41PM BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE GOT COMMUNITY MEMBERS HERE AS WELL.
12:20:44PM OUR INTENT AND ATTORNEY MASSEY KNOWS, THE CRA DOES NOT DO
12:20:49PM WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
12:20:50PM PART OF THIS, IN GETTING THE CRA ALIGNED WITH WHERE IT
12:20:54PM SHOULD BE AND WHAT IT SHOULD BE DOING, WE'VE AGREED TO
12:20:56PM CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM AND THEN SUNSET IT AT SOME POINT UNDER
12:21:00PM THE OPERATION OF THE CRA BUT GETTING THIS INTO THE
12:21:03PM ADMINISTRATION'S CONTROL WITH ADMINISTRATOR WYNN SO THAT WE
12:21:06PM CAN THEN GO OUT AND DO THE THINGS WITH THE INTERNS THAT ARE
12:21:09PM MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE CITY'S FUNCTIONS AND WHAT THE
12:21:13PM COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
12:21:14PM ULTIMATELY, ADMINISTRATOR WYNN, HER RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PUT
12:21:18PM IN THAT BUDGETARY REQUEST TO ACCOUNT FOR THE PROGRAM TO
12:21:23PM SUPPORT THE APPLICANT.
12:21:25PM IN THIS CASE, WHERE WE HAVE HISTORICALLY SERVED 36, WE'VE
12:21:28PM HEARD THE COMMUNITY SAY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE 72.
12:21:31PM UNFORTUNATELY, AS MANAGER McCRAY EXPLAINED, THERE ARE
12:21:35PM CHALLENGES IN DOING THAT WITH ONE SINGLE COORDINATOR.
12:21:38PM YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT MR. HUNLEY IS A TEMPORARY
12:21:41PM EMPLOYEE OVER THE SUMMER WHILE HE OVERSEES THIS PROGRAM.
12:21:43PM WE DO NOT KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE A JOB ON THE CITY SIDE
12:21:48PM THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE MR. HUNLEY, NOR DO WE
12:21:51PM KNOW, BECAUSE WE HIRED HIM THROUGH AN AGENCY, WHAT IT WOULD
12:21:54PM LOOK LIKE TO BRING HIM ON STAFF TO DO THAT.
12:21:56PM BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE INTENT IS TO CONTINUE WITH A
12:21:59PM COORDINATOR, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE MR. HUNLEY CONTINUE.
12:22:02PM BUT OUTSIDE OF THIS ROOM IN YOUR ROLE AS CRA, AS A COUNCIL,
12:22:07PM YOU WILL BE PRESENTED WITH THOSE BUDGETARY REQUESTS AND YOU
12:22:11PM HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET,
12:22:14PM THERE IS A NUMBER ATTACHED TO SERVING THIS THAT -- IT'S A
12:22:19PM HEFTY FEE TO ADMINISTER THIS PROGRAM AND TO BE ABLE TO DO
12:22:23PM IT.
12:22:23PM I KNOW MR. McCRAY CAN TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THE NUMBERS THAT
12:22:26PM HE'S USED TO ADMINISTER ON THE 36, BUT IF YOU EFFECTIVELY
12:22:30PM DOUBLE THAT TO 72, IT WOULD BE TWICE THAT AMOUNT AND IT
12:22:33PM WOULD NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE COST TO
12:22:36PM DO IT BECAUSE YOU WOULD NEED TO ADD AT LEAST ONE TO TWO
12:22:40PM ADDITIONAL COORDINATORS.
12:22:41PM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT WE ARE
12:22:44PM TRANSITIONING IN A WAY THAT IT SHOULD OPERATE, AND THEN IT'S
12:22:47PM INCUMBENT UPON THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU ALL AS A CITY COUNCIL,
12:22:52PM TO ENSURE THAT THE BUDGET IS IN PLACE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO
12:22:55PM OPERATE THE PROGRAM AT WHATEVER CAPACITY THE COMMUNITY
12:22:59PM REQUESTS, WHETHER IT BE THE 36 OR THE 72.
12:23:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:23:03PM I JUST WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS AND MS. BURTON, ALL
12:23:08PM DUE RESPECT, GIVE ME A MOMENT.
12:23:10PM I APPRECIATE YOUR PASSION ABOUT EAST TAMPA SUMMER YOUTH
12:23:13PM PROGRAM.
12:23:14PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW IS THAT
12:23:16PM THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO LIVE IN EAST TAMPA THAT WORK THROUGH
12:23:20PM THE CITY SUMMER EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM THAT'S NOT PART OF THE
12:23:23PM EAST TAMPA SUMMER EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM.
12:23:25PM SO THOSE ARE JUST NUMBERS THAT YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF.
12:23:28PM THEY ACTUALLY DO EXIST.
12:23:29PM THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO WORK THROUGH PARKS AND RECREATION
12:23:32PM THAT LIVE IN EAST TAMPA, THAT DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THIS
12:23:35PM PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
12:23:36PM INITIALLY, 11 MONTHS AGO, THE REASON WHY I STARTED
12:23:40PM QUESTIONING THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE COMPONENT WHERE THESE
12:23:45PM STUDENTS WERE SPENDING TIME PICKING UP TRASH AND CLEANING UP
12:23:48PM THEIR COMMUNITY.
12:23:51PM AND THE REASON FOR THAT COMPONENT IS BECAUSE IT WAS CRA
12:23:55PM DOLLARS BEING USED.
12:23:57PM I JUST WANT ATTORNEY MASSEY TO SPEAK ON THAT FOR A MOMENT
12:24:03PM ABOUT WORKFORCE FUNDING, MENTAL HEALTH FAIRS, GREAT THINGS
12:24:06PM THAT ARE CONTRIBUTED TO EAST TAMPA, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO
12:24:09PM DO WITH SLUM AND BLIGHT AND CRA DOLLARS.
12:24:13PM IN A SENSE, IT IS THE MISMANAGEMENT OF MONEY.
12:24:15PM I LOVE THIS PROGRAM.
12:24:17PM I WENT TO THEIR CELEBRATION, AND MR. HUNLEY -- HUDLEY I
12:24:25PM BELIEVE THAT WAS HIS NAME, NOT HUNLEY, HUDLEY -- AND
12:24:27PM MS. CASTILLO PUT TOGETHER AN AMAZING PROGRAM, STUDENT-LED
12:24:30PM PROGRAM, BY THE WAY, WHICH MADE IT VERY IMPRESSIVE.
12:24:33PM NOT THE ADULTS BUT THE STUDENTS LEADING THIS PARTICULAR
12:24:37PM PROGRAM.
12:24:38PM THE IMPORTANCE FOR US IS REALLY ABOUT BUILDING TRUST WITH
12:24:42PM THE CITIZENS OF EAST TAMPA WHO WANT THIS PROGRAM IN THEIR
12:24:45PM COMMUNITY, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE ENHANCED SO THAT THE STUDENTS
12:24:49PM CAN HAVE BROADER EXPERIENCES THAT SOME SUMMER EMPLOYMENT
12:24:53PM KIDS ALREADY GET BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF
12:24:56PM THE EAST TAMPA CRA FUNDED SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM.
12:25:01PM SO THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
12:25:02PM IT'S NOT THAT THESE NUMBERS CAN'T GROW.
12:25:05PM THE APPLICATION PROCESS, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT HAD 72
12:25:09PM APPLICANTS.
12:25:10PM 54 ARE ELIGIBLE.
12:25:11PM 36 UNDER THIS PARTICULAR FUNDING BECAUSE THE MODEL DOES
12:25:15PM EXIST AND WE ARE CONTINUING WITH IT IN GOOD FAITH.
12:25:19PM WE DIDN'T JUST CHOP IT AT THE BLOCK BASED ON THE
12:25:22PM RECOMMENDATION OF THE CRA STAFF BECAUSE I WANTED TO.
12:25:25PM I WANTED TO MOVE IT OVER TO OCEA WYNN RIGHT AWAY.
12:25:28PM BUT WE DO NEED A TRANSITION PERIOD SO THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN
12:25:31PM BE COMFORTABLE, THE KIDS CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE AN
12:25:36PM OPPORTUNITY.
12:25:37PM NOW, THIS IS WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY
12:25:39PM NEXT BECAUSE I'M AN EDUCATOR.
12:25:41PM NOW THAT -- BECAUSE OF THE SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM,
12:25:44PM THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY, IF WE PARTNER WITH HILLSBOROUGH
12:25:47PM COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, THE STUDENTS CAN EARN THEIR HIGH
12:25:50PM SCHOOL CREDIT FOR WORKFORCE EXPERIENCE.
12:25:53PM THEY CAN BE AN OJT STUDENT WHERE THEY RECEIVE THEIR HIGH
12:25:56PM SCHOOL CREDIT FOR WORKING, WHICH BENEFITS FROM A GPA
12:26:00PM STANDPOINT, BECAUSE IF THEY GO TO WORK, THEY'LL EARN THAT
12:26:03PM "A" AND THAT ONE UNIT CREDIT THAT GOES TOWARD GRADUATION.
12:26:08PM WE NEED TO PARTNER SO THAT THEY CAN GET THAT.
12:26:11PM WITH THAT, THAT PROVIDES US AN OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE I JUST
12:26:15PM HAPPEN TO BE A CTE TEACHER.
12:26:17PM WE HAVE CTE STAFF, OJT TEACHERS, ON THE JOB TRAINING, THAT
12:26:22PM CAN SUPPORT THIS INTERNSHIP-STYLE PROGRAM WHERE THEY CAN GO
12:26:28PM AROUND AND CHECK ON THE KIDS BECAUSE IT IS A PART OF
12:26:32PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS WELL AND EARN THEIR CREDIT AS WELL AS
12:26:35PM IT BEING FUNDED UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND
12:26:38PM COMMUNITY AFFAIRS.
12:26:39PM IT DOES PROVIDE US WITH SOME BROADER AND GREATER
12:26:42PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE STUDENTS TO EXPERIENCE A BROADER SET
12:26:46PM OF SKILLS.
12:26:48PM THEY DON'T HAVE TO PICK UP TRASH.
12:26:51PM THEY CAN WORK IN A VARIETY OF DEPARTMENTS.
12:26:54PM AND THAT ALSO TAKES TIME WORKING WITH THE STAFF TO DEVELOP
12:26:58PM PROGRAMS WITHIN THOSE DEPARTMENTS SO THEY CAN HAVE A REALLY
12:27:02PM GREAT EXPERIENCE.
12:27:03PM EVEN VISITING CITY COUNCIL TO SEE WHAT WE DO.
12:27:06PM SO I JUST THINK THAT WHILE I APPRECIATE THE PASSION OF THE
12:27:12PM COMMUNITY, IT'S REALLY ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS AND TRUST TO
12:27:17PM INCREASE THE PROGRAM TO HIGHER NUMBERS AND TO UNDERSTAND
12:27:24PM SOME KIDS WILL APPLY FOR A JOB WITHOUT IT ANYWAY.
12:27:27PM BUT THE FUNDING ASPECT, CRA IS NOT DESIGNED, NOT DESIGNED TO
12:27:35PM PAY FOR WORKFORCE.
12:27:36PM IT'S JUST NOT.
12:27:37PM I JUST WANT ATTORNEY MASSEY TO SPEAK ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK
12:27:42PM THAT THE CITY COULD POSSIBLY QUESTION ABOUT MISMANAGEMENT OF
12:27:46PM FUNDING IF WE CONTINUE TO GO DOWN THIS PATH.
12:27:50PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, MA'AM.
12:27:50PM WE ARE GOVERNED BY A STATE STATUTE THAT DEFINES PRETTY
12:27:57PM RIGIDLY WHAT WE CAN USE CRA FUNDS FOR.
12:27:59PM FORTUNATELY, IN THIS CASE, THE STATUTE BASICALLY REQUIRES
12:28:05PM THAT CRA FUNDS BE USED FOR PHYSICAL REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES
12:28:09PM LARGELY, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
12:28:11PM IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR IT TO BE USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
12:28:14PM PURPOSES OR FOR COMMUNITY POLICING PURPOSES.
12:28:18PM PROGRAMS SUCH AS THE ONES THAT ARE BEING DISCUSSED THIS
12:28:21PM MORNING REALLY DON'T FALL UNDER THE CRA, WHAT WE'RE
12:28:25PM PERMITTED TO SPEND FUNDS ON.
12:28:27PM THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO STRETCH THIS IS THAT WE HAVE
12:28:30PM TIED THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAMS OR THE YOUTH ACADEMY PROGRAM
12:28:35PM TO AN ACTIVITY OR A PROJECT THAT ENHANCES REDEVELOPMENT
12:28:40PM ACTIVITIES WITHIN EAST TAMPA OR IN ANOTHER REDEVELOPMENT
12:28:43PM AREA WHERE THOSE YOUTH ARE FROM.
12:28:45PM IF YOU UNTETHER THOSE THINGS, THEN IT BECOMES A REAL PROBLEM
12:28:49PM UNDER THE STATUTE TO JUSTIFY THE USE OF CRA FUNDS FOR THE
12:28:53PM PROGRAMS.
12:28:54PM PART OF THE IDEA IS BY MOVING THIS UNDER MS. WYNN AND UNDER
12:28:57PM THE CITY UMBRELLA, YOU CAN THEN ALLOW THE YOUTH TO DO A LOT
12:29:03PM MORE DIFFERENT THINGS AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE TIED TO
12:29:06PM PROJECT THAT ENHANCE THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA OR ADDRESS SLUM
12:29:09PM AND BLIGHT CONDITIONS.
12:29:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:29:12PM SO REALLY WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO THE PUBLIC -- THANK YOU FOR
12:29:18PM EXPRESSING THAT.
12:29:19PM REALLY, IT IS OUR JOB UP HERE, WHEN IT'S TIME FOR THE
12:29:24PM BUDGET, TO ENSURE THE EQUITY AND FAIRNESS THAT EAST TAMPA
12:29:30PM YOUNG PEOPLE GET OPPORTUNITIES THAT POSSIBLY CAN EVEN EXPAND
12:29:37PM BEYOND THE 70 YOU'RE ASKING FOR.
12:29:39PM BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE IT A FAIR SHOT IN TERMS OF
12:29:42PM COMMUNICATING WITH SCHOOLS, TIEING IT TO THAT HIGH SCHOOL
12:29:45PM CREDIT WILL DO WONDERS FOR KIDS IN CREATING OPPORTUNITIES.
12:29:49PM REALLY IT IS ABOUT TRUST AND KEEPING THE LINES OF
12:29:51PM COMMUNICATION OPEN.
12:29:52PM LETTING MS. CASTILLO AND OCEA WYNN, THE ADMINISTRATOR, DO
12:29:56PM THEIR JOBS ALONG WITH US MAKING SURE AND QUESTIONING, THE
12:30:02PM COMMUNITY QUESTIONING, SO THAT WE CAN GET IT RIGHT AS WE
12:30:05PM MOVE FORWARD BUT NOT USING CRA DOLLARS.
12:30:07PM THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY.
12:30:12PM ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT?
12:30:14PM >> IF THIS WAS A FIRST-YEAR PROGRAM, THEN I WOULD ACCEPT
12:30:16PM THAT.
12:30:17PM WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR FOUR YEARS.
12:30:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MS. BURTON.
12:30:22PM >> THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.
12:30:25PM FOUR YEARS AND WE CAN'T GET ANYWHERE.
12:30:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MISS BURTON --
12:30:40PM >> JUVENILE DELINQUENCY.
12:30:41PM SPEAK TO THAT.
12:30:42PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
12:30:43PM OKAY.
12:30:44PM THIS IS -- THIS IS UNFORTUNATE.
12:30:48PM WE ARE NOT ALWAYS GOING TO AGREE, BUT MR. McCRAY, YOU HAVE
12:30:52PM ANOTHER PORTION OF YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU NEED TO FINISH
12:30:55PM IN.
12:30:55PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES.
12:30:57PM AND I WILL MOVE IT ALONG.
12:30:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT IS 12:30.
12:31:01PM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THE EAST TAMPA LEADERSHIP ENTREPRENEURSHIP
12:31:04PM ACADEMY WAS APPROVED BY THE CRA BOARD IN 2022 -- '21.
12:31:10PM MISS ALYSSA HOGAN WITH HOGAN ENTERPRISES WAS AWARDED THE
12:31:15PM CONTRACT THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS OF THE CITY OF
12:31:18PM TAMPA.
12:31:18PM SHE SERVES AS PROGRAM MANAGER, OPERATIONS MANAGER AND A
12:31:22PM LOCAL RECRUITER.
12:31:22PM THEY ARE AVERAGING ABOUT 14 ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS ONE SATURDAY
12:31:27PM A MONTH.
12:31:28PM WHEN THE PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED, I BELIEVE THE CAC AT THAT
12:31:32PM TIME THROUGH THAT PROCESS WE ARE ANTICIPATING ABOUT 40.
12:31:35PM IT HAS BEEN A STRUGGLE TO -- YOU KNOW TO RECRUIT AND
12:31:40PM MAINTAIN STUDENTS.
12:31:41PM AND WHEN I AM ASKED ABOUT IT, I -- YOU KNOW, THE SUMMER
12:31:45PM YOUTH PROGRAM, THOSE KIDS ARE THERE.
12:31:46PM AND THEY ARE BEING COMPENSATED.
12:31:48PM SO IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO HAVE -- TO GET
12:31:53PM FULL PARTICIPATION AND RECRUIT STUDENTS ON A SATURDAY.
12:31:57PM AND SO THEIR CONTRACT IS CURRENTLY UP.
12:32:01PM AND WILL BE UP ON MAY 25 ON 2024.
12:32:04PM WE ARE IN A SITUATION NOW WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION
12:32:08PM OR THE CRA BOARD NEEDS TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THAT WILL
12:32:11PM CONTINUE.
12:32:12PM I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH MISS HOGAN AS THE VENDOR TO
12:32:16PM LET HER KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE MAKING A DECISION
12:32:20PM TODAY.
12:32:20PM AND JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU ALL.
12:32:23PM AND SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT THEY COVER ON THOSE SATURDAYS,
12:32:28PM FINANCIAL AND COMPUTER LITERACY, IDENTITY AND DISCOVERIES,
12:32:32PM MENTAL HEALTH, REAL ESTATE PROPERTY ACQUISITION.
12:32:35PM THEY BRING IN GUEST SPEAKERS ON EACH SATURDAY.
12:32:38PM SOME OF US HAVE BEEN CAC AND INDIVIDUALS FROM NONPROFITS
12:32:42PM AMONG EAST TAMPA THAT SERVE AND HAVE DONE COLLEGE TOURS,
12:32:46PM DONE SERVICE LEARNING AND CLEANUP.
12:32:48PM ONE OF THE PHOTOS YOU HAVE SEEN WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
12:32:52PM THEY ARE BEING EXPOSED ONE SATURDAY A MONTH TO VARIOUS
12:32:55PM DYNAMICS AND -- AND JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THE PLEASURE OF
12:33:00PM THE CRA BOARD WILL BE.
12:33:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
12:33:06PM IS THERE A PLEASURE OF THE BOARD?
12:33:08PM CAN I HAVE A MOTION?
12:33:11PM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:33:12PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THIS IS ALL EXCELLENT.
12:33:14PM THIS IS THE KIND OF STUFF THAT I -- THAT I WANTED TO SUPPORT
12:33:17PM ALL ALONG AND I AM SURPRISED WE ARE ABLE TO.
12:33:20PM CAN YOU -- NOT NOW, BUT AS YOU TRACK THIS, CAN YOU COME BACK
12:33:25PM TO US WITH WHAT THE SUCCESS STORIES ARE AND WHATEVER
12:33:28PM MEASURES YOU ARE USING?
12:33:31PM AND AN IDEAL OUTCOME PEOPLE WILL START BUSINESSES AT SOME
12:33:35PM POINT.
12:33:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
12:33:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
12:33:44PM I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS -- THIS IS VERY
12:33:49PM SIMILAR TO THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORP OR THIS IS COMPARED --
12:33:54PM THIS IS THE PROGRAM THAT IS COMPARED TO THE MAYOR'S
12:33:58PM YOUTH CORP, CORRECT?
12:34:00PM SOMEWHAT?
12:34:01PM SO -- I THINK PART OF THE ISSUE IS THAT THE MAYOR'S
12:34:07PM YOUTH CORP IS CONSIDERED TO BE HARDER FOR SOME YOUTH TO GET
12:34:11PM INTO OR TO HAVE ACCESS TO BECAUSE IT REQUIRES PARENTS TO
12:34:16PM BRING STUDENTS PLACES.
12:34:18PM SO I BELIEVE THERE IS A -- A ROLE FOR THIS.
12:34:25PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS WHAT IT IS TODAY.
12:34:28PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FINDING A WAY TO EXPAND MAYOR'S
12:34:33PM YOUTH CORP TO MAKE IT MORE ACCESSIBLE, BUT I ALSO DO NOT
12:34:38PM BELIEVE THIS IS A CRA ISSUE.
12:34:40PM I THINK THAT HAS 'REALLY -- THAT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO
12:34:44PM TODAY IS TRANSITION THESE ACTIVITIES WHICH WERE STARTED WHEN
12:34:49PM -- I THINK -- I THINK PART OF THE CONFUSION IS, THE CRA UP
12:34:54PM UNTIL 2019 WAS ALLOWED TO DO A LOT OF THIS.
12:34:56PM AND THEN THE STATE REALLY TIGHTENED THE RULES ABOUT HOW WE
12:35:02PM COULD SPEND THE MONEY.
12:35:03PM SO THIS IS HOW WE ARE -- WE ARE TRANSITIONING.
12:35:06PM I DON'T WANT THIS PROGRAM TO GO AWAY NECESSARILY BUT DO I
12:35:13PM THINK IT SHOULD STAY IN THE CURRENT ITERATION?
12:35:16PM PROBABLY NOT.
12:35:17PM PROBABLY NEEDS A REFRESH AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS
12:35:20PM LIKE.
12:35:21PM I AM HESITANT TO STAY YES, LET'S EXPAND THIS TODAY IF 40
12:35:25PM STUDENTS WERE TO GET INVOLVED AND WE ONLY HAVE 14.
12:35:29PM THIS NEEDS A REVAMP.
12:35:30PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE, BUT TO ME IT DOESN'T LOOK
12:35:34PM LIKE A CRA PROJECT.
12:35:35PM IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING TO -- TO BE A -- TO BE A
12:35:39PM COLLABORATION BETWEEN MISS WYNN AND -- AND I BELIEVE THE
12:35:44PM MAYOR'S YOUTH CORP IS UNDER HER -- NO, IT ISN'T?
12:35:51PM WELL, WE WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO COMBINE THAT, BUT IT
12:35:53PM SHOULD BE, AND HOW THAT WORKS FORWARD.
12:35:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA AND THEN WE WANT TO
12:36:00PM HEAR FROM ATTORNEY MASSEY.
12:36:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CERTAINLY.
12:36:03PM I THINK THAT THE ONLY WAY TO FIND OUT HOW THE PROGRAM IS,
12:36:07PM WHEN YOU ARE FEWER YEARS ON YOUR BELT AND FOLLOWING KIDS,
12:36:10PM YOUNG PEOPLE WHAT THEY ARE DOING AT THAT POINT IN THEIR LIFE
12:36:13PM TWO OR THREE YEARS AFTER BEING THERE.
12:36:15PM THE ONLY WAY TO FIND OUT.
12:36:16PM YOU CAN'T DO IT FOR ONE OR TWO YEARS.
12:36:18PM TAKES THREE OR FOUR YEARS TO FIND OUT WHAT EXACTLY WHAT THE
12:36:23PM OUTCOME IS.
12:36:24PM I AM SURE THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE MUCH BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO
12:36:26PM GO FORWARD IN A PROGRAM BEING WITHOUT THE PROGRAM.
12:36:30PM THAT IS JUST MY FEELING.
12:36:31PM AGAIN, THE CRAs ARE FIND OF -- IFFY IF IT IS THERE AS WELL.
12:36:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ATTORNEY MASSEY.
12:36:40PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: I WANT TO SPEAK TO THIS.
12:36:42PM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK IS CORRECT.
12:36:43PM BEFORE 2019, THE RULES THAT GOVERNED CRAs WERE MORE RELAXED.
12:36:51PM THE LEGISLATURE TIGHTENED THOSE IN 015.
12:36:54PM ONLY WAY TO JUSTIFY THE CRA FUNDING WITH THE YOUTH ACADEMY
12:36:58PM AND THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM IS REQUIRING THAT THE YOUTH
12:37:02PM THAT SERVED IN THE SUMMER PROGRAM OR THE ACADEMY ALSO DO
12:37:05PM SERVICE PROJECTS OR PICK UP TRASH OR DO -- YOU KNOW, DO
12:37:10PM THINGS WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA WHICH ADDRESS SOME SLUM
12:37:14PM AND BLIGHT CONDITION WITHIN THE AREA.
12:37:16PM THAT IS HOW WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO JUSTIFY IT LEGALLY.
12:37:19PM THAT IS -- AND I THINK PART OF WHAT STAFF -- I MAY BE
12:37:23PM MISSTATING THIS -- IS REQUESTING THAT THE STATE -- THAT THE
12:37:29PM BOARD TRANSITIONED THOSE OUT FROM THE CRA OVER TO THE CITY
12:37:32PM AND LET MISS WYNN TAKE OVER BOTH THESE PROGRAMS.
12:37:37PM OBVIOUSLY THAT WILL HAVE TO BE MONITORED TO YOU BY CITY
12:37:41PM COUNCIL TO MAKE SURE IT IS ACCOMPLISHING THE SAME THINGS AND
12:37:43PM MAYBE THE EXPANDED PURPOSES AND ALLOW THE FLEXIBILITY THAT
12:37:46PM THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD
12:37:48PM LIKE THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE PLACE ON THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE
12:37:52PM FUNDED BY THE CRA.
12:37:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOOED MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:37:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT
12:37:59PM STAFF TO TAKE THE APPLICATIONS TO MOVE THESE PROGRAMS FROM
12:38:02PM THE CRA TO PARKS AND REC.
12:38:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
12:38:07PM WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER
12:38:11PM MANISCALCO.
12:38:12PM DISCUSSION?
12:38:14PM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:38:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM IN FAVOR OF THE PROGRAMS AND AGAINST
12:38:17PM MOVING IT INSIDE THE CITY.
12:38:19PM IF IT IS ILLEGAL TO SPEND IT WITHOUT OUTSIDE OUTSOURCING
12:38:24PM WITH BETTER EFFICIENCY THAN IT IS ILLEGAL FOR US TO PUT IT
12:38:27PM INSIDE THE CITY AND I DISAGREE WITH THAT AND WILL VOTE NO.
12:38:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: POINT OF INFORMATION, MR. MASSEY, IS IT
12:38:34PM ILLEGAL FOR THE CITY TO RUN PROGRAMS LIKE THIS?
12:38:36PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NOT IN MY OPINION.
12:38:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY POINT --
12:38:41PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS --
12:38:44PM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I?
12:38:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:38:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY POINT IS IF WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE CRA
12:38:50PM MONEY TO PAY A PRIVATE VENDER TO RUN THIS PROGRAM, THEN --
12:38:55PM BECAUSE OF THE DEFINITION OF IT, THEN WE ARE NOT ABLE TO PUT
12:38:58PM THE MONEY INSIDE THE CITY TO DO IT EITHER.
12:39:00PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: NOT THE ISSUE OF THE PRIVATE VENDOR.
12:39:03PM THE ISSUE IS IN ORDER TO RUN THE PROGRAMS THROUGH THE CRA WE
12:39:08PM HAVE TO TIE IT TO A REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY WHICH RESTRICTS
12:39:11PM WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THOSE.
12:39:12PM IF YOU PUT THEM UNDER THE GENERAL REVENUE AND YOU PUT IT
12:39:15PM UNDER THE CITY, THEN IT IS MORE FLEXIBLE.
12:39:18PM >>Caroline: YOU ARE SAYING THE SAME THING I AM.
12:39:22PM WHY CAN'T A PRIVATE VENDOR DO THAT.
12:39:25PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: BECAUSE CRA FUNDS.
12:39:26PM IF GENERAL FUNDS ARE BEING USED YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME
12:39:29PM RESTRICTIONS OF THE USE OF THE FUNDS.
12:39:31PM CRA FUNDS ARE RESTRICTED BECAUSE OF THE STATUTE.
12:39:34PM GENERAL FUND IS NOT.
12:39:36PM >>BILL CARLSON: TIED TO REDEVELOPMENT, WHY CAN'T WE PUT THAT
12:39:39PM REQUIREMENT ON THE PRIVATE VENDOR.
12:39:40PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: WE DO.
12:39:41PM BUT I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE ASKING BASED ON SOME OF
12:39:44PM THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY -- I WILL LET MR. DRUMGO MAY
12:39:49PM WANT TO ADDRESS THIS, BY MOVING THIS TO -- UNDER -- UNDER
12:39:52PM THE CITY AND BEING FUNDED THROUGH THE GENERAL -- GENERAL
12:39:56PM FUND AND NOT THROUGH CRA FUNDS, THEN WE PROBABLY -- WE MAY
12:40:00PM CONTRACT WITH PRIVATE VENDORS, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME
12:40:03PM RESTRICTIONS.
12:40:03PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO -- YOU HAVE TO PICK UP TRASH.
12:40:08PM YOU DON'T REQUIRE THEY DO REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES.
12:40:11PM YOU CAN PUT THEM IN -- TO THE OFFICES DOWNTOWN.
12:40:13PM YOU CAN PUT THEM IN -- YOU KNOW, GO OUT TO THE WATER PLANT.
12:40:17PM YOU CAN DO ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
12:40:24PM >> IF I MAY, MADAM CHAIR, A COUPLE OF POINTS OF CLARITY.
12:40:28PM WE ARE EXACTLY DOING THAT.
12:40:30PM THIS IS TWO PART -- THERE ARE TWO PROGRAMS.
12:40:34PM ONE IS ASSUMER YOUTH PROGRAM.
12:40:35PM TRANSITION THAT PROGRAM INTERNALLY UNDER ADMINISTRATOR WYNN,
12:40:40PM UNFUNDED BY THE CRA AND FUNDED BEGIN RALE DOLLARS SUBJECT TO
12:40:45PM APPROVAL OF THE BOARD DURING THE BUDGETARY.
12:40:47PM THAT IS WHY I TALK OF NUMBERS.
12:40:50PM NUMBERS MATTER AT THAT POINT.
12:40:51PM DECISIONS WHETHER 36 AND 72.
12:40:54PM OTHER POINT OF CLARITY, THE OTHER PROGRAM PRIVATELY
12:40:58PM CONTRACTED WITH MELISSA HOGAN.
12:40:59PM THAT CONTRACT IS UP FOR RENEWAL.
12:41:01PM WE ARE ASKING TO BASICALLY OFFER A NOTICE OF NONRENEWAL FOR
12:41:06PM HER SO THAT PROGRAM CAN GO AWAY.
12:41:08PM TWO SEPARATE ITEMS.
12:41:09PM THAT PROGRAM, AGAIN, IS NOT -- THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AS --
12:41:12PM AS THIS SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM.
12:41:14PM THE TWO ITEMS ARE NOT THE SAME.
12:41:15PM AND THE THIRD THING THAT ATTORNEY MASSEY IS REFERRING TO, IT
12:41:19PM WOULD OPEN UP THAT -- THAT FLEXIBILITY FOR THOSE STUDENTS TO
12:41:23PM DO THE THINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY THAT THE COMMUNITY IS
12:41:25PM ASKING FOR.
12:41:26PM TO PLACE THE STUDENTS IN THOSE SPACES WITHOUT THE SAME
12:41:31PM RESTRICTIONS.
12:41:31PM AND THAT'S IT.
12:41:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I ASK A CLARIFYING QUESTION?
12:41:36PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:41:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: APOLOGIZE IF I MISUNDERSTOOD.
12:41:41PM YOU MOVE IT IN THE CITY, IT IS WITH GENERAL FUND AND NOT CRA
12:41:45PM FUNDS.
12:41:46PM >>ALIS DRUMGO: THAT'S RIGHT.
12:41:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
12:41:51PM I THOUGHT IT WAS --
12:41:55PM >>ALIS DRUMGO: NO, SIR.
12:41:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR CLARITY, THE CONTRACT IS ENDING AND
12:42:00PM DOESN'T MEAN IT WILL GET RENEWED UNDER THE BUDGET.
12:42:05PM WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IF YOU MOVE IT TO EVERY TO THE GENERAL
12:42:09PM FUND --
12:42:10PM >>ALIS DRUMGO: THE LEADERSHIP PIECE WE ARE NOT ASKING TO
12:42:12PM CONTINUE TO RENEW THAT.
12:42:13PM WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THAT RENEWAL.
12:42:17PM WE NEED TO CONTACT THAT CONTRACTOR THAT WE DO NOT INTEND TO
12:42:23PM RENEW THAT.
12:42:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: QUESTION.
12:42:25PM IS YOUR VISION TO REINCARNATE THAT TYPE OF A PROGRAM WITHIN
12:42:28PM THE ADMINISTRATION?
12:42:30PM >>ALIS DRUMGO: I WOULD SAY THAT IS NOT THE INTENT.
12:42:32PM I THINK WE HAVE THE SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM AND ADDRESSING THAT
12:42:36PM COMPONENT OF IT; HOWEVER, WE HAVE THIS OTHER PROGRAM THAT IS
12:42:39PM BEING OPERATED THAT IS BEING FUNDED BY THE CRA THAT ALSO
12:42:43PM DOES NOT COMPLY STATUTORY EXPENDITURE.
12:42:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET THAT AND GO BACK TO COUNCILWOMAN
12:42:52PM HURTAK'S POINT.
12:42:53PM THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORP HAVE SOME CHALLENGES THAT THEY ARE --
12:42:59PM BECAUSE THEY ARE ECONOMICALLY CHALLENGED MAY NOT BE ABLE TO
12:43:02PM PARTICIPATE.
12:43:02PM I FIND IT INTERESTING TO HAVE A TARGET PROGRAM FOR THOSE
12:43:08PM FOLKS THAT CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORP.
12:43:12PM I DON'T FEEL GOOD OF LOSING THAT OPPORTUNITY.
12:43:15PM MY MOTION WOULD BE TO DIRECT THE STAFF TO TAKE AT STEPS OF
12:43:18PM TRANSITIONING BOTH PROGRAMS INTO THE ADMINISTRATION.
12:43:21PM AND THEN REPORT BACK, OF COURSE, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST ASKING
12:43:24PM YOU GUYS TO TAKE THE FIRST PROOF POSITIVES STEPS TO MAKE
12:43:29PM THIS HAPPEN.
12:43:29PM >>ALIS DRUMGO: UNDERSTOOD.
12:43:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: TO CLARIFY, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR YOU ON
12:43:34PM THE FLOOR.
12:43:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS THE MOTION.
12:43:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
12:43:36PM IT WAS SECONDED BY MANISCALCO.
12:43:38PM COMMENT BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK?
12:43:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, JUST ONE MORE THING.
12:43:42PM AND I AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
12:43:44PM AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT -- THAT'S FINE IF THIS PARTICULAR
12:43:49PM PROGRAM GOES AWAY, BUT THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT TO
12:43:53PM REPLACE IT WITH OR HOW WE AUGMENT THE MAYOR'S YOUTH CORP IS
12:43:59PM WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN NEXT.
12:44:00PM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN -- IF THAT MOTION NEEDS
12:44:03PM TO BE MADE AS -- WHEN WE SIT AS COUNCIL OR IF THAT IS JUST
12:44:07PM DIRECTION REGIVE.
12:44:08PM IF YOU CAN JUST LET US KNOW WHICH IS BEST.
12:44:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME CLARIFY THE MOTION.
12:44:15PM I AM NOT SAYING WE HAVE TO TRANSFER THE CONTRACT.
12:44:18PM BUT I AM SAYING THIS CONCEPT OF THIS IDEA, YOU KNOW, WILL
12:44:22PM RE-CREATE THIS UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION ALONG WITH THE WORK
12:44:25PM PROGRAM.
12:44:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
12:44:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT BEFORE WE
12:44:29PM TAKE THIS VOTE.
12:44:30PM ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND IS, THERE IS A
12:44:32PM WONDERFUL GRAND OPENING OF THE SKILLS CENTER IN EAST TAMPA
12:44:36PM THAT JUST OPENED.
12:44:36PM AND EVERYTHING LISTED HERE ARE THINGS THAT THEY ACTUALLY CAN
12:44:40PM ADDRESS.
12:44:40PM TO WE HAVE A COMMUNITY PARTNER WHERE THIS CAN TRANSITION
12:44:44PM OUTSIDE OF THE CITY IN GENERAL AND THAT CAN BE UNDER
12:44:47PM CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
12:44:47PM SO LET'S TAKE THIS VOTE.
12:44:49PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:44:50PM ANY OPPOSED?
12:44:52PM MOTION CARRIES.
12:44:54PM AND NOW TIME FOR LUNCH.
12:44:55PM 12:44.
12:44:57PM WE CAN COME BACK AT 1:45 IF THAT IS OKAY.
12:45:00PM AN HOUR --
12:45:02PM >> MADAM CHAIR, IF I COULD ADD.
12:45:04PM SO WE DO HAVE TWO MOTIONS.
12:45:06PM ONE IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS IF THE MOTION
12:45:08PM MAKER WILL BE OPEN TO MAYBE CONTINUING THAT DISCUSSION OR IF
12:45:11PM IT IS TIMELY FOR TODAY.
12:45:12PM WE CAN HAVE IT AFTER LUNCH.
12:45:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: TIME FOR US TO GO TO LUNCH BECAUSE BOARD
12:45:17PM MEMBERS -- WE NEED TO GO TO LUNCH RIGHT NOW.
12:45:19PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
12:45:21PM WE HAVE SOMETHING TO COME BACK TO.
12:45:27PM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF YOU MOVE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT ONE
12:45:29PM ITEM, I THINK WE CAN WRAP THIS UP IN FIVE MINUTES.
12:45:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY.
12:45:32PM >> IF THE MOTION MAKER AND BOARD IS RECEPTIVE.
12:45:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT DO YOU SAY, BOARD.
12:45:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SHOW THREE SLIDES REGARDING THAT.
12:45:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT WON'T BE REAL FAST.
12:45:46PM WE WILL TAKE A LUNCH.
12:45:47PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE IT UNTIL
12:45:51PM THE NEXT MEETING.
12:45:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ITEM NUMBER 8 TO BE CONTINUED TO MAY 9.
12:45:58PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:45:58PM OPPOSED.
12:45:59PM OKAY.
12:46:01PM >> MY APOLOGIES ON THAT AND I CAN DO THE DIRECTOR AS REPORT
12:46:09PM IN TWO MINUTES.
12:46:10PM APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
12:46:12PM ERICA MOODY, CRA DIRECTOR.
12:46:16PM GOING THROUGH IT SPEEDILY.
12:46:19PM CONTRACTORS WILL LIKE TO COME AND PRESENT PLAN AT A MAY 9
12:46:23PM BOARD MEETING.
12:46:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:46:25PM OPPOSED?
12:46:26PM MOTION CARRIES.
12:46:27PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:46:28PM WE ALSO HAVE AT FLORIDA AQUARIUM REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT GRANT
12:46:32PM PRESENTING TO THE CAC ON MAY 7.
12:46:34PM AND THEY COULD COME TO THE CRA BOARD ON MAY 9.
12:46:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
12:46:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:46:43PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WANTED TO MAKE SURE THE CLERK GETS THAT.
12:46:45PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:46:46PM OPPOSED?
12:46:47PM MOTION CARRIES.
12:46:48PM >> THANK YOU, THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP HAS A PROPOSAL ON
12:46:51PM REVITALIZING FRANKLIN STREET HEARD BY THE CAC, A
12:46:55PM RECOMMENDATION TO COME FORWARD TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD AS
12:46:57PM EARLY AS MAY 9.
12:46:58PM >> SO MOVED.
12:47:00PM >> SECOND.
12:47:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBERS VIERA SECONDED BY BOARD
12:47:04PM MEMBER MANISCALCO.
12:47:05PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:47:05PM >> THANK YOU, IN EAST TAMPA, PROPERTY INFILL DEVELOPMENT TO
12:47:10PM THE CAC ON MAY 7 AND BRING THE HOUSING INFILL LIST TO THE
12:47:15PM CRA BOARD MAY 9 FOR DISCUSSION.
12:47:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.
12:47:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
12:47:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:47:21PM >>ERICA MOODY: THANK YOU.
12:47:23PM I DID WANT TO RECOGNIZE SOME STAFF THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE
12:47:26PM ROOM.
12:47:26PM WE HAVE A NEW PROJECT MANAGER.
12:47:27PM HIS NAME IS NICHOLAS BENNETT.
12:47:31PM HE WAS PREVIOUSLY THE CHIEF DEVELOPER OF HOUSING AND WE ARE
12:47:37PM WELCOMING HIM AS OUR NEW PC.
12:47:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WELCOME, SIR.
12:47:42PM >>ERICA MOODY: MR. BRYCE FARINGER, OUR NEW URBAN PLANNER 2
12:47:47PM AND COMES TO US FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
12:47:48PM HAPPY TO HAVE HIS EXPERTISE.
12:47:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WELCOME.
12:47:54PM >>ERICA MOODY: QUITE THE BOARD MEETING TO BE YOUR FIRST.
12:47:59PM WE LEARN FAST.
12:47:59PM AND SERVING A CRA FOR 30 YEARS IN YBOR WAS FOUNDATIONAL TO A
12:48:04PM LOT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES, BROUGHT THE WHY HE
12:48:06PM TEAM.
12:48:07PM SHE IS NOT HERE TODAY BUT DESERVES THE PUBLIC RECOGNITION.
12:48:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, RETIRING.
12:48:12PM >>ERICA MOODY: THAT'S IT.
12:48:13PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BOARD.
12:48:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK.
12:48:16PM WE HAVE A SECOND.
12:48:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE THE REQUIRED APPROVAL.
12:48:22PM >> SECOND.
12:48:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
12:48:24PM OPPOSED?
12:48:25PM SECOND BY MIRANDA.
12:48:27PM DID YOU SECOND IT, MIRANDA?
12:48:29PM OKAY.
12:48:29PM ALL RIGHT.
12:48:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I NEED FOR
12:48:33PM YOU TO PUT THE -- I -- THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOESN'T KNOW
12:48:39PM HOW TO SAY INCONSISTENT.
12:48:41PM IF YOU BUT THE I-N.
12:48:45PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS AND RECOGNIZE BOARD
12:48:48PM MEMBER MANISCALCO FOR NEW BUSINESS.
12:48:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, REAL QUICK.
12:48:51PM I WOULD LIKE -- JUST A STAFF REPORT ON JUNE 13 REGARDING
12:48:57PM HOMES WITHIN THE CRAs.
12:49:00PM WE CAN SAY ALL THE CRAs THAT HAVE PLYWOOD ON THE WINDOWS.
12:49:06PM >> SECOND IN.
12:49:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO LOOK AT POLYCARBONATE OR OTHER
12:49:13PM MATERIALS.
12:49:13PM I MET WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS REGARDING SOME ABANDONED
12:49:16PM PROPERTIES.
12:49:16PM YOU HAVE PLYWOOD ON THE WINDOWS, INVITES PEOPLE TO POSSIBLY
12:49:21PM BREAK IN AND HOMELESS AND WHATNOT.
12:49:23PM INSTEAD THIS WOULD -- YOU KNOW, HELP PROPERTIES -- WELL,
12:49:28PM HAVE FOLKS GET UP TO -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY UP TO CODE, BUT
12:49:33PM I KNOW THAT IN TAMPA, YOU DON'T NEED A PERMIT TO PUT PLYWOOD
12:49:37PM ON YOUR WINDOWS BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THESE OTHER MATERIALS
12:49:40PM THAT LOOK LINE WINDOWS ARE ACCEPTABLE.
12:49:42PM AND IF THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE -- IF THERE ARE
12:49:46PM FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS AND CAN'T AFFORD TO BRING THIS IN
12:49:49PM COMPLIANCE, IF WE CAN DO SOME KIND OF POSSIBLE HARDSHIP
12:49:52PM PROGRAM BEING THAT THESE ARE WITHIN CRAs TO ALLOW FOR THOSE
12:49:56PM INDIVIDUALS TO GET THOSE PROPERTIES SHORED UP.
12:49:59PM I KNOW WE DO FACADE GRANTS.
12:50:01PM SO IT IS NOT LIKE A FACADE GRANT, BUT SOME OTHER OPTION IN
12:50:05PM ORDER TO GET THOSE HOUSES SAFER LOOKING AND MORE SECURE.
12:50:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
12:50:10PM SO YOUR MOTION IS FOR STAFF TO BRING BACK A REPORT.
12:50:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 13 IF IT IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO AND
12:50:17PM WITHIN THE CRA BOUNDARIES FOR PLYWOOD AND OTHER MATERIALS.
12:50:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: DISCUSSION BY.
12:50:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CODE ISSUE TO DISCUSS ON CITY COUNCIL AS A
12:50:29PM CODE ISSUE BEFORE BRINGING IT TO THE CRA.
12:50:31PM I SEE YOUR POINT OF FUNDING IT FOR PEOPLE THAT WOULD NEED
12:50:35PM IT, BUT WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THE CODE BEFORE BRINGING IT
12:50:37PM BACK HERE.
12:50:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL BRING THAT UP AT A REGULAR
12:50:40PM COUNCIL MEETING.
12:50:41PM GO FROM THERE, IF IT COMES BACK TO CRA, I WANT THE BOWL
12:50:47PM ROLLING WITH THE DISCUSSION.
12:50:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LOVE YOUR IDEA.
12:50:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL CLARIFY IT.
12:50:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THAT.
12:50:52PM OKAY, MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:50:54PM BOARD MEMBER VIERA.
12:50:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:50:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
12:51:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE TWO MOTIONS.
12:51:01PM FIRST IS, I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH HART STAFF AND INCLUDING
12:51:06PM INTO HART MEETINGS COMMISSIONER GWEN MYERS OF HAVING A
12:51:10PM REPORT ON FEASIBILITY OF CRA BEING ABLE TO ASSIST HART,
12:51:14PM PARTICULARLY WITH BUS STOPS, AS WELL AS OTHER AREAS
12:51:18PM POTENTIALLY WHERE CRA CAN ASSIST.
12:51:20PM I WILL HAVE THAT IN -- MISS MOODY IS JULY OR AUGUST OKAY?
12:51:24PM I CAN MOVE IT WHENEVER?
12:51:26PM >>ERICA MOODY: JULY WILL BE GREAT AND WE ARE IN
12:51:28PM CONVERSATIONS WITH HART RIGHT NOW SO IT IS TIMELY.
12:51:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
12:51:31PM SO THAT IS MY FIRST.
12:51:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
12:51:36PM ALL IN FAVOR.
12:51:37PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
12:51:39PM SECOND AND LASTLY, I WAS SPEAKING WITH THE CHILDREN'S
12:51:41PM MUSEUM, WHICH IS DOWNTOWN.
12:51:42PM AND -- ON THE POSSIBILITY OF CRA DOWNTOWN ASSISTING THEM
12:51:47PM WITH A SENSORY ROOM AND IMPROVEMENTS AT THE CHILDREN'S
12:51:50PM MUSEUM.
12:51:51PM SO MAYBE FOR STAFF TO SPEAK WITH THEM AND COME BACK IN LET'S
12:51:55PM SAY AUGUST OF 2024.
12:51:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
12:51:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
12:52:01PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
12:52:02PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
12:52:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: BOARD MEMBER CARSON, YOU ARE RECOGNIZED.
12:52:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO HIT ON THESE PAGES.
12:52:10PM THREE PAGES EACH.
12:52:11PM AND TAKE ME 30 SECONDS JUST TO FLASH THEM REAL FAST.
12:52:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU GOT TO GO TO THE PODIUM.
12:52:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE, TWO, THREE --
12:52:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN WE TALK ABOUT -- WHEN WE TALK OF TERMS,
12:52:26PM SOME FOLKS TALK OF DEVELOPING QUARTERS AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT
12:52:31PM IN.
12:52:31PM DALE MABRY AND OTHER CORRIDORS.
12:52:34PM CORRIDORS WHERE YOU HAVE LONG SPRAWL WITH NOT A LOT OF
12:52:37PM DENSITY.
12:52:37PM OPPOSED -- THAT TO -- TO BOULEVARDS LIKE BUENO AIRES AND
12:52:46PM BARCELONA.
12:52:47PM STEVEN AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, DALE MABRY
12:52:50PM BETWEEN MIDTOWN AND KENNEDY IF IT LOOKED LIKE THIS INSTEAD
12:52:53PM OF LIKE THIS.
12:52:54PM WHEN WE TALK OF CORRIDORS, WE CAN DEVELOP CORRIDORS I TALK
12:52:58PM OF NEIGHBORHOOD DISTRICTS.
12:53:00PM I HAD AI DO THIS MORNING.
12:53:02PM IMAGINE WHERE JACKSON MARKET IN EAST TAMPA.
12:53:05PM USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE.
12:53:07PM WE CAN DEBATE LATER.
12:53:08PM FOUR STORY BUILDINGS AND ON THE BOTTOM JACKSON MARKET.
12:53:12PM ANOTHER ONE A COFFEE SHOP WITH AN INCUBATOR SPACE AND
12:53:15PM OTHERS.
12:53:16PM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS FOUR BLOCKS AND EIGHT
12:53:18PM BLOCKS.
12:53:19PM IT IS NOT THIS.
12:53:20PM NOT A CORRIDOR.
12:53:21PM SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT.
12:53:22PM THANK YOU.
12:53:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR HOMEWORK.
12:53:25PM THAT IS NICE.
12:53:26PM MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
12:53:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SO MOVED.
12:53:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
12:53:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS MEETING IS IS ADJOURNED, AND WE WILL
12:53:34PM EACH OTHER AT 5:01.
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