📝 City Council Meeting Transcript

TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, APRIL 18, 2024, 9:00 A.M.

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[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:02:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
ORDER.
AT THIS TIME, I YIELD TO COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN TO WELCOME
TODAY'S INVOCATION.
9:02:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GOOD MORNING. I'M EXCITED TO WELCOME A
DEAR FRIEND OF MINE TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, BUT HE IS NO
STRANGER TO THIS COUNCIL OR MANY HALLS OF GOVERNMENT.
BISHOP TOM SCOTT WAS CALLED TO THE MINISTRY IN AUGUST 1971
UNDER THE MINISTRY OF REVEREND G.H. WILLIAMS AT THE
COMMUNITY CHURCH OF GOD IN MACON, GEORGIA.
BISHOP SCOTT BECAME THE PASTOR OF THE 22nd STREET CHURCH
OF GOD IN APRIL 1980 AND LED THE CHURCH IN BUILDING A NEW
EDIFICE, WHICH IS NOW NAMED THE 34TH STREET CHURCH OF GOD
WHERE HE HAS SERVED AS A SENIOR PASTOR FOR OVER 40 YEARS.
BISHOP SCOTT HAS BEEN MARRIED TO HIS LOVELY WIFE, MARVA, FOR
48 YEARS.

THEY HAVE TWO SONS -- TWO GREAT SONS, BY THE WAY, -- MARCUS
AND MARLON, ONE DAUGHTER MARLA, TWO DAUGHTERS-IN-LAW, 12
GRANDCHILDREN, AND 6 GREAT GRANDCHILDREN.
MY GOODNESS, THAT IS A FAMILY SUNDAY DINNER.
I WANT TO WELCOME ONCE AGAIN TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS,
MY DEAR FRIEND AND A FRIEND OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, AND EVERYTHING GOOD IN OUR COMMUNITY,
BISHOP THOMAS SCOTT.
9:04:00AM >> [MICROPHONE NOT ON] -- AND TO MY COUNCILWOMAN.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING
HERE TODAY.
AS WE INVOKE THE PRESENCE OF GOD, LET ME JUST SAY YOU HAVE
AN AWESOME TASK AND ASSIGNMENT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN ENTRUSTED
WITH, NOT ONLY BY THE PEOPLE, BUT BY GOD.
SO YOU HAVE A GREAT RESPONSIBILITY.
I HAVE BEEN WHERE YOU ARE.
I KNOW THE ROLE YOU HAVE AND ALL THE IMPORTANT DECISIONS YOU
HAVE TO MAKE.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW YOU ARE ALWAYS IN MY PRAYERS.
WE ARE REMINDED OF WHAT YOUR WORD SAYS, WHAT DOES THOU
REQUIRE OF THE OLD MAN BUT TO DO JUSTLY, LOVE MERCY, AND TO
WALK HUMBLY BEFORE OUR GOD.
TODAY WE PAUSE TO THANK YOU FOR THE BOUNTIFULNESS OF YOUR
GRACE AND YOUR MERCY UPON US.
A NEW DAY THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

YET YOU HAVE GIVEN US NEW OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE
IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN OUR WORLD.
PRAY TODAY FOR OUR NATION AND THOSE THAT GOVERN, THAT YOU
GIVE THEM WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY MAKE GOOD, SOUND
DECISIONS FOR OUR NATION.
WE PRAY NOW FOR OUR TROOPS AROUND THE WORLD, THAT THEY
PROTECT DEMOCRACY IN THIS NATION.
WE PRAY FOR OUR LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS AND THOSE WHO PROTECT
US HERE LOCALLY THAT YOU GUARD THEIR LIFE AND PROTECT THEM.
NOW WE THANK YOU FOR OUR MAYOR.
WE THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY COUNCIL WHO MADE DIFFICULT AND
SOUND DECISIONS.
I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM, GIVE THEM KNOWLEDGE.
WE PRAY THAT THEY WOULD BE A COUNCIL OF CIVILITY, A COUNCIL
WHO WORKS TO MAKE THIS COMMUNITY AND THIS CITY BETTER FOR
ALL THE CITIZENS.
I PRAY TODAY THAT TAMPA WILL BE NOT JUST ORDINARY CITY, BUT
A GREAT CITY BECAUSE OF THOSE WHO REPRESENT US.
I PRAY NOW FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR CITY.
I PRAY NOW THAT YOU BLESS OUR CITY AND THE PROSPERITY OF OUR
CITY AND ULTIMATELY THAT YOUR NAME WILL BE GLORIFIED IN ALL
THAT WE DO.
IT IS IN YOUR NAME I PRAY, AMEN.
[PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:06:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

9:06:34AM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
9:06:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
9:06:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
9:06:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
9:06:39AM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
9:06:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
9:06:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
9:06:43AM >>THE CLERK:
YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:06:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH -- CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADOPT THE
MINUTES FROM APRIL 4, 2024 AND APRIL 11, 2024?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
I'LL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA FOR SOME APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA
AND THE ADDENDUM.
AT THE BEGINNING, BEFORE CEREMONIAL, I'LL BRING UP A NEW ADA
SPECIAL NEEDS INTERN FROM MacDONALD TRAINING CENTER.
WE'LL GET THAT ONCE WE APPROVE THE AGENDA BUT THAT WILL BE
FIRST TO INTRODUCE HER.
MEMO RECEIVED FROM MR. BRAD BAIRD REQUESTING ITEM NUMBER 26

BE REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA.
CAN I GET A MOTION?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, SECOND FROM COUNCIL
MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
JUST AN FYI, ITEMS 44 AND 57 ARE RELATED, BUT THEY DO NOT
NEED TO BE HEARD TOGETHER.
JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.
THEN I RECEIVED A MEMO FROM MR. TONY MULKEY REQUESTING ITEM
NUMBER 87 BE CONTINUED TO AUGUST 22.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
I'LL GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS REAL QUICK.
YES, SIR.
9:07:58AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY FOR THE LAST MINUTE ON THIS, BUT I HAD
SOME CALLS LAST NIGHT AND THIS MORNING ABOUT 53 AND 54.
I WOULD LIKE TO PULL THEM FOR A SEPARATE DISCUSSION, PLEASE.
THEY ARE REGARDING THE REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE ACCELERATOR
COOPERATIVE AGREEMENT.
9:08:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL PULL THOSE FOR DISCUSSION AND PUT
THEM UNDER STAFF REPORTS.

WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON FOR 53 AND 54
TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ALL RIGHT.
I'LL GO THROUGH THE STAFF REPORTS.
ADMINISTRATION UPDATE, CHIEF, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TODAY?
OKAY.
JUST THAT.
THAT YOU'LL BRING UP AT THE BEGINNING.
ITEM NUMBER 68, WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF PRESENT FOR THAT?
9:08:46AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES, PLEASE.
9:08:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES ON 68.
HOW ABOUT 69.
9:08:51AM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT IS THE SAME THING REALLY.
9:08:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PART ONE AND TWO.
WE'LL HAVE 68 AND 69 PRESENT.
WE HAVE A MILLION DOLLARS, ITEM NUMBER 70.
DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT?
9:09:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THIS IS THE ONE THAT IS 70, 71, 72, 73, 74
AND 75, THESE ALL GO TOGETHER.
SO, YEAH.
9:09:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL HAVE STAFF PRESENT FOR 70, 71, 27,

73, 74, AND 75.
ITEM NUMBER 76, IS THAT A YES FOR STAFF PRESENT?
OR IS THE MEMO SUFFICIENT?
ALL RIGHT.
WE WILL NOT HAVE STAFF PRESENT FOR 76.
WE DO HAVE A MEMO.
HOW ABOUT ITEM 77?
SAME.
OKAY.
WE WILL NOT HAVE STAFF PRESENT FOR 77.
78?
9:09:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
9:09:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL HAVE STAFF PRESENT FOR 78.
HOW ABOUT 79?
9:09:55AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, THAT IS THE ONE TPD IS COMING.
9:09:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
80.
9:10:01AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT IS A PRESENTATION.
9:10:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
SO WE'LL HAVE STAFF FOR 80.
81, YES.
9:10:10AM >>BILL CARLSON:
82 YES.
9:10:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
82 YES.
83?
9:10:15AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.

THEY ARE PREPARED TO PRESENT.
9:10:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
84?
YES.
THERE'S NO STAFF REPORT TO THAT.
85, YES.
YES TO 85.
9:10:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH, BECAUSE THEY ARE REPORTING, BUT I DON'T
THINK IT WILL BE VERY LONG.
9:10:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 86?
9:10:38AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, IF I MAY, I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS
HERE OR COMING FOR ITEM NUMBER 86.
JUST IF WE COULD HAVE IT -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY A TIME
CERTAIN, BUT SOMETIME EARLIER.
RIGHT NOW, IF IT'S GOING TO BE HERE, WE COULD BE HERE UNTIL
LATE.
JUST SOME ACCOMMODATION.
9:10:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FIRST UNDER STAFF REPORTS?
9:10:56AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
I KNOW ALSO 79 AS WELL WAS SUPPOSED TO COME UP EARLY.
FIRST OR SECOND BEFORE ALL THE BIG-TICKET ITEMS, IF WE MAY.
9:11:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND.
9:11:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE WILL BRING UP 86 FIRST UNDER STAFF
REPORTS.
9:11:13AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
9:11:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
86 IS THE COMMISSION.
ALL RIGHT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE?
IF NOT, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND
ADDENDUM.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND --
9:11:36AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
I WANTED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, IF
COUNCIL IS SO INCLINED.
81, IF IT'S POSSIBLE, TO MAYBE GO AFTER 75.
WE'D HAVE DIRECTOR CONTINUITY ON THOSE TWO TOPICS.
9:11:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
81 AFTER 75.
9:11:48AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
YEAH.
THEY ARE BOTH IN STAFF REPORTS, BUT IT'S THE SAME DIRECTOR.
9:11:52AM >> SO MOVED.
9:11:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM?

MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ALL RIGHT.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CHIEF BENNETT, DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT OUR NEW INTERN?
9:12:17AM >>JOHN BENNETT:
GOOD MORNING.
JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
I WILL LET RAQUEL PANCHO, OUR ADA COORDINATOR, DO THE
INTRODUCTIONS OF OUR INTERN AND McDONALD'S TRAINING
CENTER.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR SUPPORTING OUR INTERN PROGRAM.
I'M HONORED TO HAVE TWO OF THE THREE INTERNS IN MY
PORTFOLIO.
I REALLY JUST WANT TO TAKE A SECOND TO BRAG ABOUT RAQUEL.
SHE IS A ONE-PERSON SHOW THAT DOES AMAZING THINGS, BOTH
PROACTIVELY AND STRATEGICALLY WITH OUR SPECIAL EVENTS AND
OUR INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS ADA
ACCESSIBLE.
SO WITH NO FURTHER ADO, RAQUEL, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE IT OVER?
9:12:51AM >> GOOD MORNING.
FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK COUNCIL FOR YOUR SUPPORT ALWAYS AND
DEDICATION FOR ACCESS INCLUSION FOR PERSON WITH

DISABILITIES.
COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOUR INITIATIVE TO BRING THE INTERNSHIP
PROGRAM TO THE CITY OF TAMPA IS JUST ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE WORK.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU TIDI FRYE.
SHE COMES FROM McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER.
I AM ECSTATIC TO HAVE HER SKILLS IN MY OFFICE.
I'LL HAVE HER TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR BACKGROUND.
9:13:24AM >> I CURRENTLY JUST GRADUATED THE McDONALD'S TRAINING
CENTER.
I HAVE CERTIFICATIONS IN MICROSOFT WORD, EXCEL, OUTLOOK,
AND PowerPoint.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH RAQUEL.
9:13:39AM >> SHE'S ONLY BEEN HERE FOR A FEW DAYS AND HAS ALREADY
GOTTEN ME WELL ORGANIZED.
I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO HAVE HER HERE.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE INITIATIVE TO BRING A SPECIALIZED
INTERNSHIP PROGRAM TO THE CITY.
9:13:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WELCOME.
9:13:53AM >>LUIS VIERA:
JUST WELCOME TO YOU, MA'AM, AND YOU'RE FROM
McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER.
WHERE DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL?
9:14:05AM >> HIGH SCHOOL.
I WENT TO FRIENDSHIP CHRISTIAN ACADEMY.

IT IS A LITTLE PRIVATE SCHOOL.
9:14:09AM >>LUIS VIERA:
NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
I WENT TO A LITTLE PRIVATE SCHOOL AS A KID, TOO.
THAT'S GREAT.
MY BROTHER WORKS AT McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER, TOO, OVER
AT JAMES RANCH.
SO WELCOME HERE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL
YOUR WORK AND McDONALD'S TRAINING CENTER.
MY GOOD FRIEND PHYLLIS IS HERE.
RAQUEL, YOU ARE ALWAYS A GODSEND TO SO MANY PEOPLE.
EVERYBODY IN EVERY ORGANIZATION KNOWS YOU AND THE GREAT WORK
YOU DO FROM BEST BUDDIES TO SPECIAL OLYMPICS, McDONALD'S
TRAINING CENTER, JUST EVERYDAY FAMILIES AROUND HERE, THEY
KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND THE WORK YOU DO.
YOU ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO DO THAT WORK AND WE'RE FORTUNATE
TO HAVE YOU.
GOD BLESS YOU.
9:14:48AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL SUPPORTS THE WORK.
9:14:52AM >>LUIS VIERA:
WELCOME TO YOU, YOUNG LADY.
GOD BLESS YOU.
9:14:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON --
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:15:02AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANTED TO SAY QUICKLY, WELCOME ON
BOARD THE CITY AND LET US KNOW IF WE CAN HELP YOU WITH

ANYTHING.
ALSO AN ADDITIONAL SHOUT-OUT TO RAQUEL.
BESIDES ALL THE THINGS SHE DOES WITH THE ORGANIZATIONS, SHE
SPECIFICALLY HELPS CONSTITUENTS AND SHE'S HELPED SEVERAL OF
MINE.
HELPING CONSTITUENTS WITH COMPLICATED ISSUES FIND ACCESS
THROUGH MULTIPLE AGENCIES, LOCAL, FEDERAL, OTHER AGENCIES,
TO FIND ASSISTANCE IS A VERY COMPLICATED, TIME-CONSUMING
EFFORT.
AND AT THE END OF THAT WHOLE PROCESS, THE CONSTITUENTS CALL
ME AND THANK ME FOR THE WORK THAT RAQUEL DOES.
I WANT TO THANK HER AND HER DEPARTMENT FOR EVERYTHING THEY
DO.
THEY ARE REALLY TOUCHING PEOPLE'S LIVES AND HELPING THEM
DIRECTLY.
9:15:43AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
GOOD MORNING.
SO I WAS EXCITED TO HEAR YOU SAY YOU ARE CERTIFIED IN THREE
AREAS.
I TAUGHT MICROSOFT THREE OR FOUR?
9:15:51AM >> FOUR.
9:15:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE CERTIFIED, YOU
CAN USE THE WORD SPECIALIST BECAUSE YOU HAVE FOUR
CERTIFICATIONS.
YOU CAN SAY I AM A MICROSOFT SPECIALIST BECAUSE THAT'S
EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE HAVING EARNED FOUR INDUSTRY

CERTIFICATIONS.
CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT.
THAT IS A NATIONAL CERTIFICATION.
IT CAN BE CHALLENGING TO PASS.
SO I CONGRATULATE YOU ON HAVING THOSE SKILLS.
9:16:14AM >> THANK YOU.
9:16:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER 1.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, YOU HAVE A COMMENDATION TO PRESENT TO
CHERYL SCHROEDER.
9:16:42AM >>LUIS VIERA:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
IT IS A REAL PLEASURE TO HONOR MS. CHERYL SCHROEDER FOR HER
RETIREMENT AND HER 20 YEARS OF WORK HERE IN THE WEST CENTRAL
FLORIDA LABOR COUNCIL, DOING AMAZING WORK.
I KNOW EVERY PERSON WHO IS HERE ON TAMPA CITY COUNCIL IS A
VERY STRONG SUPPORTER OF WORKING FAMILIES.
WE HAVE THREE INDIVIDUALS HERE WHO HAVE BEEN OR ARE LABOR
UNION MEMBERS.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, AND
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WHO HAVE BEEN OR ARE IN THE PAST.
WE'RE ALWAYS VERY, VERY PROUD TO SUPPORT ORGANIZED LABOR
HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE OF THE ROLE THAT LABOR HAS
PLAYED HISTORICALLY AND CONTINUES TO PLAY IN OUR UNITED
STATES IN SEEKING JUSTICE.

WE KNOW THAT THROUGHOUT HISTORY, AMAZING PEOPLE AND GREAT
AMERICANS LIKE PEOPLE LIKE WALTER RUTH, CESAR CHAVEZ, JOHN
L. LEWIS AND SO MANY OTHER GREAT AMERICANS HAVE FOUGHT SO
HARD TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE JUSTICE IN THE UNITED STATES.
PART OF A POLITICAL TRADITION THAT WE SUPPORT WHAT I CALL
THE FDR, HARRY TRUMAN, BOBBY KENNEDY, JOHN F. KENNEDY, LBJ,
HUBERT HUMPHREY, TRADITION OF SOCIAL JUSTICE AND MAKING SURE
PEOPLE WHO WORK HARD AND PLAY BY THE RULES HAVE DIGNITY AS A
RESULT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT AMERICANS ARE DUE.
THAT'S WHAT ORGANIZED LABOR IS ALL ABOUT.
CHERYL HAS 20 YEARS IN THE WEST CENTRAL FLORIDA LABOR
COUNCIL.
THE FIRST WOMAN TO SO LEAD THIS COUNCIL.
SHE HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB AND WORKED WITH CITY COUNCIL TO
PROMULGATE AND PUSH FOR NUMEROUS PROWORKER INITIATIVES,
INCLUDING MOST RECENTLY OUR APPRENTICESHIP INITIATIVE AND
MAKING SURE THAT PROJECTS ARE INCLUSIVE AND WELCOME WORKING
FAMILIES.
SHE BEGAN -- I DID SOME GOOD RESEARCH, YOU BEGAN AS OFFICE
MANAGER WITH THE PASCO COUNTY TEACHERS UNION AND SHE ALSO
ORGANIZED FOR THE UNITED AUTOWORKERS.
UNFORTUNATELY HERE IN FLORIDA AND, YES, THIS IS POLITICAL,
IT'S BEEN AN UPHILL BATTLE, AND IT CONTINUES TO BE FOR
WORKING FAMILIES, BUT CHERYL HAS ALWAYS DONE SUCH A GREAT
JOB IN SHINING A LIGHT ON THE NEEDS OF WORKING FAMILIES AND

WHAT GOVERNMENT AND ORGANIZATIONS CAN DO TO BETTER SUPPORT
THEM.
THAT 20 YEARS OF ADVOCACY AND THE ADVOCACY THAT SHE WILL
CONTINUE TO DO AND THE ADVOCACY THAT THE ORGANIZATION WILL
CONTINUE TO DO THROUGH THAT GREAT IRISHMAN, JIM JUNECO,
PROUD TO PRESENT YOU WITH A TAMPA CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:19:06AM >> VERY NICE.
THANK YOU.
I AM SO GRATEFUL AND HONORED BY THIS COMMENDATION.
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
I KNOW MOST OF YOU WORKED WITH MANY OF YOU FOR MANY YEARS.
I CAN REMEMBER MY DAY STARTING OUT ONE OF THE FIRST ACTIONS
THAT WE DID WITH TAMPA CITY COUNCIL WAS WHEN MAYOR IORIO WAS
IN OFFICE AND THEY WERE TRYING TO PRIVATIZE PARKS AND REC
AND WORKING WITH ATU, OUR AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION THAT
REPRESENTS THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE PUSHED BACK ON THAT.
THAT WAS THE BEGINNING.
EVER SINCE THEN WE HAVE COME TO COUNCIL NUMEROUS TIMES WITH
NEEDS, WANTS, WISHES.
FOR THE MOST PART, YOU ALL HAVE STEPPED UP.
IN FACT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT MY JURISDICTION, WHICH WAS 12
COUNTIES, MY TENURE, THIS WAS THE NEST.
THIS WAS THE HUB.
THIS IS WHERE IT ALL BEGAN.

THIS IS WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO PUSH AN AGENDA THAT HELPED
WORKING FAMILIES IN OUR AREA, AND YOU ALL WERE COMPLICIT AND
PARTNERS IN THAT.
I CAN'T BEGIN TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH I HAVE ENJOYED WORKING
WITH CITY COUNCIL.
ALL OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY AND AS A WHOLE, IT'S BEEN REALLY THE
HIGHLIGHT OF MY CAREER.
I JUST WISH I COULD TAKE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL GOVERNMENT AND
DUPLICATE IT EVERYWHERE.
AS LOUIS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'RE IN A FIGHT FOR OUR LIVES.
I JUST HOPE THAT THE FOLKS THAT COME BEHIND ME WITH JIM
JUNECO AND OTHERS THEY WILL CONTINUE THE FIGHT.
I'M CERTAIN THE WILL AND THE MIGHT IS THERE AND WE'LL
HOPEFULLY KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
WITHOUT CITY COUNCIL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD HAVE DONE
IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA.
YOU'VE BEEN THE LEADER.
YOU'VE BEEN THE LITMUS TEST.
YOU'VE BEEN THE STANDARD WE'VE ALL HELD TO AND I APPRECIATE
IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYBODY.
I LOVE THE COMMENDATION.
THANK YOU.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:20:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR WORK.
I'M GLAD THAT WHEN YOU'RE DOING ORGANIZING, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD
TO HAVE ONE SPACE WHERE YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WORKING.
AND THEN THAT HELPED GIVE YOU THE ENERGY TO WORK IN THOSE
OTHER COUNTIES.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT HAS GROWN FROM THAT?
I READ THE NEWS.
IT SEEMS LIKE AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK THERE IS A NEW REPORT OF
ANOTHER ORGANIZATION UNIONIZING.
THERE WAS ONE THIS MORNING.
SO THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE, THE ROOTS YOU'VE PUT DOWN IN
THIS COMMUNITY ARE BEING FELT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AS
FOLKS REALIZE THAT UNIONS ARE THE WAY TO GET A STABLE JOB
THAT CAN HELP FEED A FAMILY AND KEEP EVERYONE -- YOU KNOW,
PROVIDE THE MONEY AND THE SUPPORT AND THE RESOURCES THAT
THEY NEED.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE BECAUSE YOU ARE
INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT AND IT WILL CONTINUE BECAUSE OF THE
ROOTS YOU HAVE HELPED LAY DOWN.
9:21:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, CARLSON,
MIRANDA.
9:22:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NO SECRET MY LOVE FOR ORGANIZED LABOR.
BECAUSE I RECOGNIZED LONG AGO, IF IT WASN'T FOR THE WORKING
MEN AND WOMEN THAT FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES, NOBODY WOULD FIGHT
FOR THEM.

BUSINESSES RESPONSIBILITY IN OUR CAPITALIST SOCIETY IS TO
MAKE MONEY FOR THE OWNERS AND THE STOCKHOLDERS OF THOSE
COMPANIES AND THAT'S IT.
IT'S THE PUSH-BACK ORGANIZING WORKERS PROVIDE IS THE ONLY
REASON WE HAVE WORKFORCE SAFETY.
GOD DID NOT PUT IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS THAT YOU HAVE A
40-HOUR WORKWEEK.
HE DID NOT PUT IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS THAT YOU GET A
VACATION.
HE DIDN'T PUT IN THE TEN COMMANDMENTS THAT YOU HAVE A SAFE
WORKING ENVIRONMENT.
THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF THE
WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF ORGANIZED LABOR.
AND THERE'S NOTHING BETTER IN OUR CITY, IN OUR SOCIETY THAN
FOLKS THAT WILL STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR THEMSELVES AND NOT
JUST FOR THEMSELVES.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST LESSONS OF BEING A UNION BROTHER, IT'S
NOT JUST YOU.
YOU ARE PART OF A BROTHER AND SISTERHOOD, THAT YOU DON'T
JUST STAND UP FOR YOURSELF WHEN YOU SEE AN INJUSTICE OR A
PROBLEM, YOU STAND UP FOR OTHERS.
THAT'S PART OF WHAT BROUGHT ME HERE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IT'S NOT ABOUT MYSELF.
IT'S ABOUT FIGHTING FOR OTHER PEOPLE AND MAKING OTHER
PEOPLE'S LIVES BETTER.

IT WAS A LESSON THAT TAUGHT TO ME AT THE GEORGE MEANY CENTER
IN MARYLAND, A GREAT CENTER.
HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF GOING TO MANY TIMES.
CHERYL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU FOR ALL THOSE YEARS.
IT HAS BEEN A LOT OF YEARS.
I'VE ALWAYS ADMIRED YOU WRANGLING THOSE MONKEYS IN THAT
CIRCUS AND HERDING CATS AND BE ABLE TO BRING THEM TOGETHER
FOR UNIFIED VOICE TO SUPPORT THE CAUSE.
THANK YOU AND HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
WELL DESERVED.
9:23:52AM >>BILL CARLSON:
ADD SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TO THE
WHOLE MIX OF CONGRATS AND THINGS.
ACROSS THE UNIONS YOU DEAL WITH, YOU ALSO DO INTENSIVE,
HIGH-QUALITY TRAINING PROGRAMS.
I THINK WE'VE ALL TAKEN TOURS OF SOME OF THEM.
YOU ARE TEACHING SAFETY STANDARDS, AS MY COLLEAGUE SAID, BUT
ALSO TAKING PEOPLE WHO WOULDN'T HAVE EARNED AS MUCH AND
EARNING DOUBLE, TRIPLE ONCE THEY FINISH THE TRAINING
PROGRAMS BECAUSE YOU ARE TEACHING VALUABLE SKILLS AND SAVING
TAXPAYER MONEY, TOO, BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING IT WITH THE
PRIVATE SECTOR INSTEAD OF RUNNING THEM THROUGH OTHER SCHOOL
PROGRAMS.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT.
LASTLY, EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE RETIRING, WHATEVER YOU'RE GOING

TO DO, I EXPECT THAT WE'RE STILL GOING TO NEED TO RETURN
YOUR PHONE CALLS RIGHT AWAY.
9:24:33AM >> USUALLY IF I'M REACHING OUT, IT'S BECAUSE IT IS AN SOS.
9:24:37AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU KNOW OUR NUMBERS.
IF YOU LIKE OR DON'T LIKE SOMETHING, CALL US.
9:24:41AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IN THE
PAST.
WHAT YOU'VE DONE IN THE PRESENT AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO
IN THE FUTURE.
YOU'RE NOT ONE TO SIT DOWN AND SAY I'M RETIRED, NOT LEAVING
THE HOUSE, NOT HELPING NO ONE.
THAT'S NOT YOU.
TALK ABOUT THE IORIO ADMINISTRATION.
I REMEMBER SOME OF THAT CONVERSATION.
WHAT CAN I SAY IN THE PEOPLE'S MIND THAT WILL RELATE TO WHAT
YOU'VE DONE?
THAT MEANS I COMPARE YOU TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
YOU ARE TO UNIONS WHAT TAYLOR SWIFT IS TO MUSIC.
9:25:08AM >> WOW.
THAT'S HIGH PRAISE.
9:25:09AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
DURING THE ELECTION TIME, YOU HAD ALL THE
REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DIFFERENT UNIONS COME TO THE
SCREENING OF ALL THE CANDIDATES.
IT IS BECAUSE OF YOU THAT THEY WERE THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW
HOW TO DO THINGS.

LABOR, USED TO HAVE THE LABOR DAY EVENT, YOU WERE PART OF
THAT.
YOU WERE PART OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED.
I REMEMBER GOING BACK -- I'M NOT TRYING TO DATE MYSELF --
9:25:37AM >> OR ME.
[ LAUGHTER ]
9:25:38AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
-- YOU LOOK VERY NICE COMPARED TO ME,
OKAY.
YOU LOOK VERY NICE, PERIOD.
9:25:44AM >> THANK YOU.
9:25:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IN 1954, I USED TO GO TO LOCAL 104 TO GET
MY PASS TO WORK AT THE COLUMBIA RESTAURANT.
AND THE IRONY OF THAT IS THAT ONCE IN A WHILE THE SECRETARY
WASN'T THERE AND HIS NEPHEW WOULD GIVE OUT THE PASSES.
YOU KNOW WHO THAT WAS?
GOVERNOR BOB MARTINEZ.
I CAN TELL YOU ALL THE STORIES ABOUT ALL THAT AND HOW IT
HAPPENED AND HOW IT WAS A BROTHERHOOD AND SISTERHOOD.
IT MEANS SO MUCH HELPING PEOPLE THAT MINIMUM WAGE OR GET
MORE ADVANCE AND DO THE STUDIES.
WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF TRAININGS,
TEACHING INDIVIDUALS HOW TO BECOME ELECTRICIANS OR
CARPENTERS OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO THAT YOU ALL HAVE SET
UP, IT IS AN ENORMOUS THING.
I SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU HAVE DONE IN THE PAST,

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RETIREMENT.
9:26:38AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CONGRATULATIONS, MS. SCHROEDER, ON YOUR
RETIREMENT.
YOU MADE ME THINK ABOUT MY FATHER AGAIN, 40 PLUS YEARS AFTER
HIS PASSING, I FOUND HIS PAYCHECK STUB, AND HE PAID A DOLLAR
A WEEK IN HIS UNION DUES AND THAT MADE ME SO PROUD AS A
UNION MEMBER MYSELF.
I KNOW THE WORK THAT GOES INTO GETTING WHAT'S RIGHT,
FIGHTING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN EVERY SINGLE
DAY.
I KNOW YOU WILL BE MISSED AND I'M SURE YOUR PHONE WILL RING
WHEN THEY NEED YOU.
CONGRATULATIONS.
ENJOY THE REST.
WHEN YOU WAKE UP, YOU GET TO SAY, I GET TO DO AS I PLEASE.
9:27:16AM >> YOU'RE RIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
9:27:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:27:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, YOU HAVE THE
WATER CONSERVATION MONTH.
9:27:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HONORABLE COUNCIL CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE
COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT IS MY PLEASURE THIS MORNING TO BE HERE
WITH ROY JONES, WHO IS THE HEAD OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT IN

THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THIS MONTH IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE AS YOU REALIZE WHAT
WATER IS, YOU CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT IT.
YOU CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S GROWING AND CULTIVATING FOOD
OR LOOKING AT SOMETHING GROWING IN YOUR OWN HOUSE, FLOWER,
PLANT, TREE.
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KEEP UP THIS CONSERVATION KNOWLEDGE
ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO CONSERVE AND THE WATER ISSUES WE HAVE
IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY.
IT IS BECAUSE OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE
LEADERSHIP OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT THAT WE PRESENT THIS
OUTSTANDING EMPLOYEE DEPARTMENT TO RORY JONES, THE HEAD OF
THE WATER DEPARTMENT, BASED ON ALL THE WORK IN THE WATER
DEPARTMENT BUT ON BEHALF OF THE PUBLIC WHO WITHOUT
CONSERVATION, WOULD NOT HAVE WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
WHEN WE GO THROUGH DROUGHTS, AND THIS IS A PERIOD OF MONTHS,
WE HAD SOME RAIN JANUARY, FEBRUARY.
NOW WE'RE INTO THE DROUGHT AREA, IT'S INCUMBENT ON ALL OF US
TO SAVE WATER.
THIS MEANS A LOT TO EVERYONE IN THE CITY.
WATER CONSERVATION MONTH IS ENCOURAGED AND PRACTICED BUT UP
TO THE CITIZENS, WE HAVE ABOUT OVER 700,000 WATER ACCOUNTS
THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND PARTS OF THE COUNTY.
THAT MEANS A LOT FOR US TO SAVE WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
IT'S BECAUSE OF THE GENTLEMAN TO MY RIGHT AND TO THE

EMPLOYEES WHO PRODUCE THAT WATER, AND IT'S ONE OF THE BEST
WATER QUALITIES IN THE UNITED STATES AND IT MEANS SO MUCH TO
SAY THIS.
THERE'S ONLY SEVEN WATER UTILITIES IN THE WHOLE UNITED
STATES OF AMERICA THAT HAVE A TRIPLE-A BOND RATING AND CITY
OF TAMPA IS ONE OF THE SEVEN.
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE, THE CITIZENS
OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND TO ALL THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THIS AND
ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, MR. JONES, WE WOULD
LIKE TO PRESENT YOU AND YOUR EMPLOYEES ON BEHALF OF THE CITY
OF TAMPA FOR WATER CONSERVATION MONTH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
FOLLOW ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS SO WE CAN HAVE THE
WATER THAT WE NEED FOR THE FUTURE FOREVER AND EVER.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:30:19AM >> THANK YOU.
THIS SEEMS WEIRD.
YOU'RE GIVING ME TOO MUCH CREDIT.
THESE GUYS DO THE WORK.
OUR CFO DOES THE WORK.
YEAH, MY NAME REALLY SHOULDN'T BE ON THIS.
IT IS A TEAM EFFORT.
AND THIS TEAM -- I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS AS WELL.
THE SUPPORT FOR THE CONSERVATION EFFORTS AND OUR ONE WATER
APPROACH, OUR CUSTOMERS, RESIDENTS, THEY REALLY STEPPED UP.
WHEN WE ENACTED THAT ONE DAY PER WEEK WATER RESTRICTION, THE

RESIDENTS LISTENED.
YOU GUYS HELPED GET THE MESSAGING OUT THERE, AND IT'S
RESULTED IN 6 MILLION GALLON PER DAY SAVINGS OVER WHAT WE
WERE LAST YEAR.
THAT'S A HUGE SAVINGS NOT ONLY TO OUR CUSTOMER, BUT IT HAS A
RIPPLING EFFECT THROUGH OUR OPERATIONS, WHETHER IT'S
ELECTRICAL USE, CHEMICAL USE.
JUST THE GENERAL WEAR AND TEAR ON OUR EQUIPMENT.
WE'VE GOT A DEDICATED TEAM THAT I'M GETTING THE CREDIT FOR
BUT THEY DESERVE IT.
IT'S WHAT THEY SPECIALIZE IN.
OUTREACH AND EDUCATION TEAM THAT THIS TEAM AND THEIR EFFORTS
SAVED 75 MILLION GALLONS LAST YEAR THAT RESULTED IN A
$600,000 SAVINGS FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
I NEED TO STEP ASIDE AND LET JULIA, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL
SPECIALIST, REALLY SPEAK TO WHAT THEY DO.
MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE'LL GET THEIR NAMES ON THIS.
9:31:51AM >> GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MY NAME
IS JULIA PALASCHAK.
I'M VERY PROUD TO BE A PART OF THE WATER CONSERVATION TEAM
SINCE 2014.
CONSERVATION, MY SISTER WARNED ME, SORT OF AN OLD WORD,
DOESN'T MEAN WHAT IT USED TO MEAN.
DOESN'T DRIVE PEOPLE LIKE IT USED TO.
BUT IN A GROWING CITY LIKE WE HAVE, DURING WATER

CONSERVATION MONTH, IT IS THE PERFECT TIME TO RENEW OUR
PURPOSE AND OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH OUR
WATER EACH DAY AND MAKING SURE THAT IT IS A NECESSARY USE.
AS WE DO OUR JOBS, THIS TEAM, AND AS I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW
THIS TEAM, I UNDERSTAND THAT EACH DAY WHEN WE COME TO WORK
WE SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT REALLY, UNDERLYING ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE DO WITH OUR
CUSTOMERS EVERY DAY IS THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE LOVE.
THE FLORIDA THAT WE KNOW.
AND IT ALL RELIES ON HAVING WATER IN THAT ENVIRONMENT TO
SUSTAIN THAT COMMUNITY, THOSE HABITATS.
WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO KNOW YOUR WATER NUMBER.
HOW MUCH WATER DO YOU USE EVERY DAY?
IF YOU GET A BILL FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA UTILITIES, WE TELL
YOU HOW MUCH WATER YOU USED.
HAVE A VERY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THAT, AND WHEN YOU NEED
HELP, PLEASE REACH OUT TO US.
YOU CAN E-MAIL US AT SAVEWATER@TAMPAGOV.NET.
YOU CAN VISIT US ONLINE.
TAMPAGOV.NET/SAVEWATER.
WE HAVE WEBINARS.
WE HAVE FREE RESOURCES, AND IT IS THE COMMUNITY THAT HAS
STEPPED UP TO FIND OUT WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY WATER AND HOW
CAN I BE MORE EFFICIENT.
SO THANK YOU ALL.

9:33:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
CONGRATULATIONS.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:33:42AM >> IF I MAY, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION BRAD
BAIRD WHO AT ONE TIME LED THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
NOW HE HAS VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS UNDER HIM.
LET ME SAY THIS BEFORE THE COUNCIL SPEAKS.
WE HAVE TO CHANGE HOW WE DO THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
WATER EVAPORATES AT 15 TO 20% OF THE OPEN BODY.
AND THIS GOVERNMENT SHOULD LOOK AT THINGS LIKE TRYING TO
SAVE THE EVAPORATION BY PUTTING FLOATING SOLAR PANELS SO
THAT THE WATER IS NOT HEATED AND EVAPORATES UP AND TWO
BENEFITS.
A, SAVING WATER, AND B, CREATING ELECTRICITY.
THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY FOR NOW.
ANYONE ELSE?
9:34:21AM >>BILL CARLSON:
RORY, I WANT TO ASK YOU A CLARIFYING
QUESTION.
YOU SAID COMPARED TO LAST YEAR WE SAVED 7 MGD, 7 MILLION
GALLONS A DAY.
9:34:28AM >> 75 MILLION GALLONS.
AT THIS POINT LAST YEAR, WE WERE 6 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY
HIGHER THAN WE ARE TODAY.
9:34:35AM >>BILL CARLSON:
SO CUTTING BACK TO ONE TIME A WEEK HAPPENED
SINCE THEN.

SO 7 MILLION GALLONS A DAY IS, WHAT, 8% OF THE TOTAL THAT WE
USE?
9:34:48AM >> YEAH, YEAH.
9:34:49AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO REINFORCE THAT FOR THE PUBLIC.
I HAVEN'T HEARD COMPLAINTS THAT PEOPLE WISH THEY COULD WATER
TWICE A WEEK.
BUT 8%, WE SAVE 8% OF THE ENTIRE CITY'S WATER SUPPLY PER DAY
PLUS THE ENERGY AND OTHER COSTS YOU MENTIONED.
9:35:05AM >> YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.
9:35:06AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR STICKING TO
IT.
9:35:09AM >> THAT HAS A CAUSE AND EFFECT LIKE I SAID ON OUR
OPERATIONS.
OUR C.I.P. DOLLARS, TOO.
THAT'S 6 MILLION GALLONS WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO
IMPLEMENT RIGHT AWAY.
IT HELPS WITH OUR GROWING DEMAND, GROWING POPULATION.
YES, EXACTLY.
THANK YOU.
9:35:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:35:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOU DO.
CONSERVATION IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.
I WAS WATERING MY PLANTS OUT OF MY RAIN BARREL LAST NIGHT.
JUST TRYING TO STICK WITH IT.
BUT ALSO, JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT LAST SUMMER I REPLACED

HALF OF MY FRONT LAWN WITH A POLLINATOR GARDEN.
I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH LESS STRESSED I AM ABOUT
WATERING, MAKING SURE THINGS STAYING ALIVE.
SO MUCH I STARTED ON THE OTHER PART OF THE YARD.
NOT ONLY AM I USING LESS WATER, I'M WORRYING ABOUT MY YARD
LESS.
IF YOU ARE A GARDENER, IF YOU ARE A PERSON WHO DOES THAT FOR
YOUR HOUSE, IT'S A LEVEL OF STRESS I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
EXISTED.
TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN GET RID OF THAT STRESS AND USE LESS
WATER.
JUST A LITTLE PSA FOR FOLKS THINKING ABOUT IT.
IT'S BEEN A WILD SUCCESS.
EVEN AS A GARDENER I'M SHOCKED AT HOW AMAZING AND HOW EASY
THE MAINTENANCE IS ON A POLLINATOR GARDEN.
9:36:30AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
GOOD MORNING.
I JUST LOVE YOUR-ALL PASSION IN WATER CONSERVATION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
I HAVE A QUICK FUNNY STORY ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION.
MY BROTHER IS VISITING WHEN MY MOM PASSED AWAY.
HE TRIED TO TAKE A SHOWER AT MY HOUSE.
IT HAS A BUTTON TO NOT RUN WATER WHEN YOU DON'T NEED IT.
IT WAS A VERY SLOW DRIP.
FINALLY AFTER TWO DAYS HE TOLD ME, SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH
YOUR WATER.

IT DRIPS VERY SLOW.
I SAID, OH, NO, THAT'S WATER CONSERVATION, BABY.
YOU HAVE TO PUSH THE BUTTON WHEN YOU REALLY NEED IT.
I LOVE THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WHEN I FIRST MET YOU.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT EVEN ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, BEING MORE
CONSCIOUS OF IT, ALONG WITH EVEN THE EDUCATION WE GIVE TO
OUR STUDENTS PARTICIPATING IN WATER CONSERVATION WEEK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE TITLES OF EVERYONE IN YOUR
DEPARTMENT, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
9:37:23AM >> INTRODUCE YOURSELVES.
9:37:25AM >> RYAN SMITH, CITY OF TAMPA WATER DEPARTMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL
SPECIALIST ONE.
I WORK WITH THE CONSERVATION EFFICIENCY TEAM.
9:37:35AM >> HERNANDEZ.
GOOD MORNING.
I'M ALSO AN ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST ONE FOR THE WATER
CONSERVATION OUTREACH TEAM.
9:37:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.
TONY.
ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST ONE WITH WATER CONSERVATION TEAM.
9:37:51AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M JUSTIN WYNN.
ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST ON THE CONSERVATION TEAM.

[ APPLAUSE ]
9:38:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT UP, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME MS. LORRAINE PARRINO AND TINA
ANDERSON, WHO IS THE DAUGHTER OF JOE CHILLURA, IS THAT
CORRECT?
THEY ARE GOING TO PRESENT REGARDING ARBOR DAY.
9:38:38AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I'M LORRAINE PARRINO, PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA TREE ADVOCACY
GROUP.
HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL, THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS EACH OF US AT
TTAG, CARROLL ANN BENNETT, PAMELA JACKSON HANEY, ALISON
DATE, AND NANCY STEVENS, HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU AND OTHER CITY
OFFICIALS OF THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING TAMPA'S
DIMINISHING TREE CANOPY.
AS ONE OF TTAG'S MOST IMPORTANT GOALS IS ADVOCATE FOR THE
PROTECTION OF TAMPA'S DISAPPEARING OLD GROWTH GRAND OAKS,
TTAG HAS ATTENDED REZONING, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, AND VRB
HEARINGS WHENEVER GRAND TREE REMOVALS ARE AT STAKE.
ACCORDING TO THE 2021 TREE CANOPY AND URBAN FOREST ANALYSIS,
FROM 2016 TO 2021, TAMPA LOST 4% OF ITS TREE CANOPY.
SOUTH TAMPA ALONE LOST 18%.
THE RED DOTS ON THIS MAP SIGNIFY THE ENORMOUS NUMBER OF
HOUSES IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT HAVE BEEN DESTROYED IN THE PAST
DECADE, TOGETHER WITH THE TREES WHICH SURROUNDED THEM.

FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, TTAG HAS SOUGHT TO ILLUMINATE
THE PUBLIC DISCOURSE BY EMPHASIZING THE PRESERVATION OF
TAMPA'S TREES WHILE HIGHLIGHTING THE MANY IMPORTANT BENEFITS
THAT GRAND TREES PROVIDE TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING
TAMPA'S NATIVE WILDLIFE WHICH DEPENDS ON GRAND TREES TO
SURVIVE AND THRIVE.
IN 2023, TTAG SUCCEEDED IN PRESERVING 49 TREES, INCLUDING 8
OF TAMPA'S PRICELESS GRAND OAKS.
SOME SAY THAT GRAND OAKS CAN NO LONGER BE CONSIDERED URBAN
TREES AS THEY REQUIRE TOO MUCH SPACE.
THOUGHT MUST BE GIVEN HOWEVER TO THE FACT THAT LIVE OAKS ARE
THE MOST VALUABLE SPECIES OF TREES IN FLORIDA AND TO
DISCOUNT THEIR IMPORTANCE TO THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF
THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WOULD BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
AS YOU KNOW, GRAND OAKS ARE THE WORKHORSES OF CITY AND
FOREST.
THEY ARE GIANT OXYGEN PUMPING STATIONS, PROVIDING MORE
SHADE, MORE LEAF COVERAGE, MORE FLOOD PREVENTION AND MORE
WILDLIFE HABITAT THAN ANY OTHER TREE.
YET ONLY 3% OF TAMPA'S URBAN FOREST IS COMPRISED OF OAK
TREES.
THIS SCARCITY OF OAKS DIMINISHES THE HEALTH OF THE ENTIRE
COMMUNITY.
OAK TREES LIVE FOR CENTURIES, BESTOWING THEIR PRECIOUS GIFTS
OF OXYGEN, SHADE, POLLUTION STORAGE, LOWER HEAT INDEX AND

WATER RETENTION ON COUNTLESS FUTURE GENERATIONS.
THE OLDEST OAK TREE IN THIS COUNTY IS ESTIMATED -- IN THIS
COUNTRY IS ESTIMATED TO BE AT LEAST 1,000 YEARS OLD.
THE PECHANGA GREAT OAK IS SO LARGE IT RESEMBLES A
MINI-FOREST.
IT REACHES THE HEIGHT OF A TEN-STORY BUILDING.
17 PEOPLE WITH ARMS OUT STRETCHED WOULD BE NEEDED TO REACH
AROUND THE BASE OF ITS MASSIVE 20-FOOT TRUNK.
UNLIKE THE PECHANGA GREAT OAK, MOST OF TAMPA'S GRAND OAKS
NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE THEIR LONG LIFE SPAN
DUE TO TAMPA'S RAPID GROWTH.
FORTUNATELY, THERE STILL REMAINS SPACES WHERE THESE
LONG-LIVED GIANTS ARE ABLE TO GROW AND THRIVE.
EVEN IN OUR MODERN CITIES, OAK TREES CAN GROW AND AGE
PEACEFULLY IN AREAS THAT HOUSE OUR PUBLIC SPACES.
SCHOOLS, PARKS, CHURCHES, COLLEGE CAMPUSES, AND PUBLIC
BUILDINGS, LIKE OUR LOCAL FIRE STATIONS.
TAMPA'S TREE ORDINANCE, RESPONSIBLE FOR PROTECTING TAMPA'S
TREE CANOPY SINCE 1972 OWES ITS EXISTENCE TO OUR LOCAL TAMPA
HERO, JOE CHILLURA.
TAMPA STADIUM, WHICH HAS HOSTED FIVE SUPER BOWLS MIGHT NEVER
HAVE BEEN BUILT WERE IT NOT FOR JOE CHILLURA'S VISION AND
EFFORTS TO FUND ITS CONSTRUCTION.
TAMPA'S CHERISHED DREAMS OF LONG AGO MIGHT NEVER HAVE BEEN
TRANSFORMED INTO REALITY WERE IT NOT FOR JOE CHILLURA

VISION, GUIDANCE AND HARD WORK.
SADLY, JOE LEFT US A FEW MONTHS AGO.
A LIFELONG ADMIRER OF THE NATURAL WORLD, JOE CHILLURA'S LAST
CHERISHED DREAM WAS TO PLANT A LIVE OAK TREE AT EACH CITY
FIRE STATION.
JOE BELIEVED THAT FIREFIGHTERS AND OAK TREES HAVE A LOT IN
COMMON.
JUST AS FIREFIGHTERS SELFLESSLY BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY
BY THEIR CONSTANT VIGILANCE AND STEADFAST SERVICE, THE
COMMUNITY BENEFITS EQUALLY FROM THE CONSTANT STEADFAST AND
SELFLESS SERVICE THAT TREES PROVIDE.
LAST YEAR, JOE CHILLURA TOOK THE FIRST STEP IN ACHIEVING HIS
DREAM BY PLANTING A LIVE OAK TREE IN FRONT OF FIRE STATION
NUMBER 3.
MANY YEARS FROM NOW WHEN JOE'S GRANDCHILDREN ARE ADULTS,
THIS LITTLE TREE WILL HAVE TRANSFORMED INTO A GRAND OAK AND
WILL BESTOW ITS MANY BENEFITS ON TAMPA FOR THE NEXT 100
YEARS OR LONGER.
JOE'S VISION OF PLANTING A TREE AT THE CITY'S FIRE STATION
DOVETAILS PERFECTLY WITH THE MAYOR'S TREE INITIATIVE GOALS
OF PLANTING 30,000 TREES BY 2030, WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL
TO PUT MORE RESOURCES INTO TAMPA'S TREE CANOPY, AND
SUPPORTING NEIGHBORHOOD BASED PLANTING PROJECTS.
JOE'S VISION ALSO SUPPORTS THE CITY'S CHARGE TO PLANT 1,000
TREES ANNUALLY AND WILL HELP TO MITIGATE TAMPA'S SIGNIFICANT

LOSS OF TREES.
AS A START, TTAG HAS IDENTIFIED AT LEAST SEVEN CITY FIRE
STATIONS THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM LIVE OAK PLANTINGS.
AT A TIME WHEN INTENSE SUMMER HEAT HAS BECOME DANGEROUS TO
OUR HEALTH, TREE PRESERVATION AND THE PLANTING OF NEW TREES
IS CRITICAL TO THE HEALTH OF CITY RESIDENTS.
WE TAMPA RESIDENTS OWE A GREAT DEAL OF ATTITUDE TO JOE
CHILLURA FOR ENACTING THE CITY'S 1972 TREE ORDINANCE AND
ALSO FOR HIS LEADERSHIP IN PLANTING THE FIRST LIVE OAK TREE
AT A CITY FIRE STATION.
CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE, LET'S SHOW OUR APPRECIATION TO JOE
CHILLURA AND PAY TRIBUTE TO HIS LAST CHERISHED VISION FOR
TAMPA BY PASSING A RESOLUTION TODAY TO PLANT A LIVE OAK TREE
AT EACH CITY FIRE STATION.
ON BEHALF OF ALL TAMPA RESIDENTS AND IN HONOR OF JOE
CHILLURA'S EXTRAORDINARY LEGACY TO TAMPA, TTAG WISHES TO
EXPRESS ITS APPRECIATION TO TINA ANDERSON, JOE'S DAUGHTER.
AND TO HIS FAMILY BY PRESENTING THIS ILLUSTRATION BY OUR
LOCAL ARTIST, BOB WHITMORE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS HER FATHER'S LEGACY IS JOE'S DAUGHTER,
TINA.
9:44:42AM >> THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
THANK YOU, LORRAINE AND A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO TTAG AND THE

AMAZING WORK THEY DO EVERY DAY TO ENSURE THAT TAMPA'S TREES
ARE PROTECTED.
WE ARE TRULY HONORED TO GET TO KNOW THIS GROUP AND TO BE
HERE WITH THEM TODAY.
I'M TINA ANDERSON, JOE'S OLDEST DAUGHTER.
AND I'M JOINED HERE BY MY BROTHER VINCE AND HIS TWO GIRLS,
SISTER-IN-LAW PATSY, MY MOM, MARY HELEN AND BROTHER JOE.
WE HAVE A BIG SPRAWLING FAMILY, BUT THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT
HAPPENED TO BE IN TOWN TODAY AND WE'RE SO HONORED AND HAPPY
TO BE HERE.
HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, A LITTLE MORE THAN 50 YEARS
AGO TODAY, OUR FATHER JOE SAT IN THE CHAIRS THAT YOU SIT IN
TODAY AND WROTE THE FIRST TREE ORDINANCE FOR TAMPA.
HE WAS AN ARCHITECT AND A CITY PLANNER, BUT MOST
IMPORTANTLY, HE WAS A VISIONARY AND RECOGNIZED THE
IMPORTANCE OF RESPONSIBLE GROWTH IN ORDER FOR TAMPA TO
BECOME THE GREAT CITY THAT IT IS TODAY.
PART OF THAT VISION INVOLVED PROTECTING TAMPA'S BEAUTIFUL
TREE CANOPY.
HE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THAT EFFORT WITH CHANGES IN THE
TREE ORDINANCE IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE FACE NEW
CHALLENGES TO KEEP TAMPA GREEN AND PROTECT THE GRAND OLD
TREES THAT TTAG HAS BEEN SPEAKING TO YOU ABOUT TODAY.
THEY SHARED A LOT OF THE STATISTICS, SO I WON'T GO INTO
THOSE.

I'D LIKE INSTEAD TO JUST TALK ABOUT THE WONDER AND POWER OF
TREES.
NOT ONLY ARE TREES A GREAT PROTECTORS OF OUR ENVIRONMENT,
BUT THEY HAVE TRUE SOCIAL AND CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE IN OUR
SOCIETIES.
NUMEROUS STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT THE PRESENCE OF TREES IN
COMMUNITIES IMPROVES MENTAL HEALTH, PHYSICAL WELL-BEING,
INCREASES OUR CHILDREN'S APTITUDES AND ATTENTION SPANS,
PROVIDES COOLING SHADE, PROTECTION, AND GATHERING SPACES OF
TRANQUILITY.
IT'S WATER CONSERVATION MONTH.
TREES PLAY THEIR BIG ROLE IN THAT AS WELL, SO I'LL GIVE A
SHOUT-OUT TO THOSE FOLKS WHO WERE HONORED TODAY.
TREES ARE ESSENTIAL FOR HEALTHY LIVING AND SERVE AS UNIFYING
FORCES AMONGST MANY PEOPLE AND CULTURES.
MOST RECENT EXAMPLE YOU MAY HAVE HEARD IN THE NEWS LATELY,
THE PRIME MINISTER OF JAPAN WHEN VISITING WASHINGTON, D.C.
WHO IS RENOWNED FOR THE BEAUTIFUL CHERRY BLOSSOMS THERE,
EVERYONE TRAVELS TO D.C. TO SEE THOSE BEAUTIFUL CHERRY
BLOSSOMS, 140 OF THEM WERE REMOVED FOR A WORK PROJECT ALONG
THE TIDAL BASIN SEAWALL.
AS A GESTURE OF FRIENDSHIP BETWEEN THE JAPANESE AND AMERICAN
PEOPLE AND SERVING AS A LESSON TO WHEN WE NEED TO TAKE DOWN
TREES, IF IT IS NECESSARY, WE REPLACE WHAT YOU TOOK DOWN.
SO THE PRIME MINISTER OF JAPAN GIFTED TO THE CITY OF

WASHINGTON, D.C. 250 NEW CHERRY BLOSSOM TREES FOR THOSE THAT
HAD TO BE REMOVED FOR CONSTRUCTION WORK.
I THINK IT IS ALL IMPORTANT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES TREES HAVE TO COME DOWN, BUT
THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED AND REPLENISHED.
AND THOSE THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO REMOVE, WE NEED TO
PROTECT.
SO LORRAINE, WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT, ASKED ME IF ALL
OF US GREW UP WITH A LOVE OF TREES AND WERE AWARE GROWING UP
WHAT OUR DAD WORKED SO HARD TO PROTECT.
I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT IT WAS AN ASTOUNDING YES.
WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP, WE HAD A LARGE JACARANDA TREE IN
THE BACKYARD.
OUR ENTIRE PATIO WAS BUILT AROUND THAT TREE.
THOSE BEAUTIFUL LOW-HANGING BRANCHES, WE GREW UP HANGING OUT
IN THAT TREE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR FRIENDS AND SOLVING THE
PROBLEMS OF THE WORLD AS KIDS DO AND DOING WHAT KIDS DO
BEST.
AND THEN UNDER THE SHADE OF THAT TREE, WE HAD FAMILY SUNDAY
DINNERS, AND WE HAD BEAUTIFUL LAZY AFTERNOON PLAYING GAMES,
TELLING JOKES AND AS MY DAD WOULD SAY, SHOOTING THE BREEZE.
HOW DIFFERENT THINGS WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD WE NOT SAVED THAT
TREE.
TRULY WE WERE BLESSED WITH THE BEAUTY OF THOSE MOMENTS.
WELL, THIS CARRIED INTO OUR ADULTHOOD.

SO ON OUR DAD'S 80th BIRTHDAY SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WE HAD A
TREE PLANTED FOR HIM, A GRAND OAK PLANTED FOR HIM ON THE
RIVERWALK IN TAMPA.
AND THAT BEAUTIFUL TREE OVERLOOKS THE CITY -- SKYLINE OF THE
CITY OF TAMPA AND GRACES THE BEAUTIFUL RIVERWALK, WHICH IS
SUCH A SYMBOL OF PROGRESS HERE IN TAMPA.
SO IT WAS JUST A GIFT, THE BEST GIFT HE COULD HAVE HOPED
FOR.
WE'RE SO GRATEFUL HE GOT TO ENJOY THAT TREE IN ALL ITS GLORY
BECAUSE IT WAS IN FRONT OF THAT TREE JUST SEVERAL WEEKS AGO
WHERE WE HONORED OUR DAD AT HIS CELEBRATION OF LIFE.
AND THE CHANGING OF THE GUARD, THE OLD AND THE NEW, THE
SYMBOLISM OF THAT TREE STANDING THERE WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT
IN TAMPA WITH AN OLD PROTECTOR OF THE TREES WAS REALLY SO
PROFOUND.
THOSE OF YOU -- AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU HAVE READ A LOT OF
HIS LETTERS, PETITIONS TO CONGRESS, TO THE LOCAL CITY
COUNCIL, ET CETERA, AND HE ALWAYS CLOSED HIS CORRESPONDENCE
WITH I SPEAK FOR THE TREES.
FOR THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT PHRASE, IT WAS
BORROWED FROM THIS GREAT DR. SEUSS BOOK, "THE LORAX."
"THE LORAX" IS A CHARACTER WHO SPEAKS AGAINST ENVIRONMENTAL
DESTRUCTION BUT ALSO STRESSES THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ONE'S
COMMUNITY.
SO IN THE WORDS OF OUR LORAX, FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, WE

WROTE A LITTLE POEM FOR YOU TODAY.
OUR DAD, THE LORAX, OUR NANU AND YOUR FORMER CITY
COUNCILMAN, WE SHARE SOME WISDOM FROM THE LORAX.
WE FOLLOW DEAR JOE AS WE SPEAK FOR THE TREES.
HE SPOKE FOR THE TREES, FOR THE TREES HAVE NO TONGUES.
HE SHOUTED THIS MESSAGE FROM THE TOP OF HIS LUNGS.
WE MUST BE NEW VOICES THAT SPEAK FOR THOSE TREES, BUT PEOPLE
ARE CHOPPING AS FAST AS THEY PLEASE.
NEW GROWTH HAS BEEN GROWING WITHOUT A SMART PLAN.
WE KNOW YOU CAN THRIVE WITH OLD TREES, YES, YOU CAN.
THEY CHANGED HIS GREAT ORDINANCE FROM LONG, LONG AGO, AND
THE DAMAGE DONE HAS NOW STARTED TO SHOW.
WE STOPPED HOME RULE LOGIC AND SAID WE HAVE RIGHTS, JUST
BIGGERING AND BIGGERING THIS IS OUR PLIGHT.
BUT IN OUR PUBLIC PLACES WE NOW HAVE THE CHANCE TO AID IN
THE EFFORT, GIVE IT MORE THAN A GLANCE.
SOME TREES HAVE COME DOWN AND CREATED A MESS, SO WE'RE HERE
TO DELIVER THE MESSAGE UNLESS, UNLESS WE AND THIS COUNCIL
CARE WHOLE AWFUL LOT, NOTHING WILL GET BETTER, NO IT JUST
NOT.
WE ARE THE STEWARDS OF THE GRAND LIVE OAK TREES AND
BEAUTIFUL TREES IS WHAT EVERYONE NEEDS.
SO YOU HAVE THE POWER TO GRANT HIS REQUEST FOR THE NEXT
GENERATION --
[ APPLAUSE ]

PLANT US NEW TREES AND TREAT THEM WITH CARE, GIVE THEM CLEAN
WATER AND FEED THEM FRESH AIR.
LET THEM GROW FREELY AND PROTECT THEM FROM HACKS, THEN
TAMPA'S TREE CANOPY WILL SURELY COME BACK.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
LET'S ALL SPEAK FOR THE TREES AND PASS THAT RESOLUTION TO
GET TREES FOR OUR WONDERFUL FIRST RESPONDERS AND FIRE
STATIONS AROUND THE CITY.
LET'S START THERE AND THEN MOVE ON TO ALL OUR PUBLIC SPACES
TO SHARE THIS VISION OF OUR DAD.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING US TODAY.
[ APPLAUSE ]
9:52:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
9:52:54AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:53:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT UP, WE HAVE MS. SHIRLEY FOX --
MS. SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, YOU'LL PRESENT AN APPLICANT FOR
THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION.
YES, MA'AM.
9:53:27AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES:
GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
I WOULD LIKE TO -- SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES, CITY CLERK.
I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT MR. BRIAN DAVID HAMMOND, APPLICANT
WISHES TO SERVE ON THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION AS AN
ARCHITECT.
9:53:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING.

9:53:55AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS BRIAN HAMMOND.
3807 SOUTH KENWOOD AVENUE IN TAMPA.
I'M PLEASED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF
THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF TAMPA SINCE 1981 AND A REGISTERED
ARCHITECT SINCE 1983.
DURING MY CAREER, I HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE ARC TO PRESENT THE
EPICUREAN, HYDE PARK HOUSE, AS WELL AS SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
I AM CURRENTLY THE DIRECTOR OF ARCHITECTURE AT THE DESIGN
STUDIO AT BDG ARCHITECTS.
PRIOR TO THAT, I WAS A PARTNER AT THE LOCAL ARCHITECTURAL
FIRM FOR 23 YEARS.
I BELIEVE MY KNOWLEDGE AND BACKGROUND UNIQUELY POSITION ME
TO CONTRIBUTE MEANINGFULLY TO THE ARC.
HAVING PRESENTED PROJECTS TO THE COMMISSION IN THE PAST, I
UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF BALANCED AND INFORMED
DECISION-MAKING AND PRESERVING AND ENHANCING TAMPA'S
ARCHITECTURAL CHARACTER.
MY COMMITMENT TO MAINTAINING HIGH STANDARDS IN ARCHITECTURAL
DESIGN ALIGNS WITH THE MISSION OF THE ARC AND I AM EAGER TO
BRING MY EXPERTISE TO THE TABLE IN SHAPING THE CITY'S FUTURE
WHILE RESPECTING THE RICH ARCHITECTURAL HERITAGE.
THANK YOU.
9:55:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
MOTION TO APPROVE BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
YES, SIR.
9:55:15AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF YOU COULD MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
HAVE A RESOLUTION PREPARED.
9:55:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION
BY COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
CONGRATULATIONS.
9:55:27AM >> THANK YOU.
9:55:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I'LL SIGN IT LATER TODAY.
NEXT UP WE HAVE F.D.O.T. TO DO A TEN-MINUTE UPDATE.
YOU HAVE A PowerPoint PRESENTATION.
IS THAT CORRECT, SIR?
9:55:40AM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
9:55:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THEY ARE GOING TO BRING THAT UP IN JUST
A MOMENT.
IF THEY COULD BRING IT UP ON OUR MONITORS UP FRONT AS WELL.
GO AHEAD.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

9:55:56AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS EMMETH DURAN.
I'M WITH THE FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
I'M THE DISTRICT 7 TRAFFIC SAFETY PROGRAM ENGINEER.
I'M HERE WITH THE PLEASURE TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR SAFE SYSTEM
APPROACH, SAFE ROADS STRATEGY.
DISTRICT 7 HAS BEEN WORKING ON A -- ON IDENTIFYING WAYS TO
BE PROACTIVE AND REDUCING FATAL AND SERIOUS INJURY CRASHES.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT RECENTLY AS OF LAST
YEAR IS PAVEMENT FRICTION AND PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT.
FRICTION IS A HUGE FACTOR IN REDUCING STOP, REDUCING FATAL
AND SERIOUS INJURIES.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS HOW DO WE
INNOVATE IN COMPARISON TO THE TRADITIONAL METHOD.
THE TRADITIONAL METHOD OF COLLECTING PAVEMENT FRICTION
CURRENTLY IS EVERY QUARTER OF A MILE.
SO THERE ARE GAPS BETWEEN THE FRICTION DATA THAT IS
COLLECTED ON OUR ROADS.
THIS NEW METHOD THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN OUR DISTRICT SAFETY
OFFICE IS COLLECTING FRICTION.
EVERY LANE, EVERY 13, 10 FEET, 13 FEET OR SO.
26 FEET.
SO THIS WILL HELP US TO IDENTIFY THOSE GAPS WHERE WE MAY
NEED TO INCREASE OUR FRICTION AND DEPLOY COUNTERMEASURES TO
REDUCE LANE DEPART CRASHES, A HIGH EMPHASIS AREA IN

STRATEGIC HIGHWAY SAFETY PLAN.
AGAIN, THIS IS CONTINUOUS PAVEMENT FRICTION MANAGEMENT OR
MEASUREMENTS.
IT IS A STRATEGY OF SAFE ROADS FOR ALL -- SORRY, SAFE SYSTEM
APPROACH.
THIS WILL HELP US IDENTIFY PERFORMANCE STRESS HOLES.
FRICTION ON URBAN ARTERIAL, IS THAT SIMILAR OR DOES IT
REQUIRE HIGHER FRICTION THAN ANOTHER AREA.
CURRENTLY, SPECIFIC PAVEMENT OR FRICTION, SO IS THERE A NEED
TO INCREASE AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT
CONTACTS.
IT IS A WAY WE CAN ALSO IDENTIFY FRICTION SYSTEMICALLY AS
WELL.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE SEEING LIKE A CUT-THRU.
WHAT THIS SLIDE IS SUPPOSED TO SHOW, URBAN ARTERIALS AND
RURAL ARTERIALS CRASH DATA -- SORRY, CONTINUOUS PAVEMENT
FRICTION CAN HELP REDUCE SERIOUS AND FATAL INJURIES BY 30%.
26% ON RURAL ARTERIALS.
LAST YEAR, WE USED THIS MACHINE CALLED A SCRIM, OR
SIDEWAY-FORCE COEFFICIENT ROUTINE INVESTIGATION MACHINE.
THIS MACHINE TRAVELS THE ROAD AT HIGHER SPEEDS AND COLLECTS
THE DATA AS IT GOES -- IT IS A TRAVELS THROUGH THE ROAD.
LAST YEAR WE COLLECTED OVER 2100 MILES OF FRICTION DATA.
ONLY ABLE TO DO THIS IN 14 DAYS.
WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH THE DATA IS INTEGRATE INTO OUR

POLICY FOR RESURFACING.
THIS CAN HELP REDUCE CRASHES, 30% OF CRASHES ON WET ROADS,
40% OF CRASHES ON -- 20% OF CRASHES ON DRY ROADS AND 40%
CRASHES OF FATALITIES.
THIS IS A MANAGEMENT, PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT STRATEGY THAT IS
BEING USED NATIONWIDE.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE USED IT -- USED IT IN OUR
AREA AND IN THIS DISTRICT.
THIS IS A PILOT PROJECT THAT WE DID A FEW YEARS AGO TO
IDENTIFY AREAS.
WE PILOTED THIS ON HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE, SEVERAL
INTERSECTIONS.
WE COLLECTED DATA, FRICTION DATA FOR INTERSECTION APPROACHES
TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE FRICTION LOOK LIKE.
AND WE REALIZE SEVERAL INTERSECTIONS THAT HAD A HIGH NUMBER
OF CRASHES, REAR END CRASHES THAT ACTUALLY LACKED THE
NECESSARY FRICTION TO REDUCE THE STOPPING DISTANCE.
ONCE WE IDENTIFIED THIS INFORMATION, WE WERE ABLE TO DEPLOY
PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT TECHNIQUE TO IMPROVE FRICTION CALLED
HIGH FRICTION SURFACE TREATMENT.
IT IS A HIGH-QUALITY AGGREGATE THAT IS OVERLAID ON TOP OF
THE PAVEMENT, AND THAT CAN HELP REDUCE THE STOPPING
DISTANCE, INCREASE STOPPING BEHAVIORS AS WELL AS
ENCROACHMENT TO CROSSWALKS AS THEY APPROACH THE
INTERSECTION.

THIS PILOT PROJECT WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE NATIONAL ROADWAY
SAFETY FOUNDATION IN 2023 AS A NATIONAL RECOGNIZED PRACTICE
IN OUR NATION.
WE DEPLOYED SEVERAL LOCATIONS WHERE WE SAW THE NEED FOR
INCREASED FRICTION.
THOSE ARE HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SCREEN ARE THE ONES WITHIN THE
CITY OF TAMPA JURISDICTION.
WE LOOK AT THE CRASHES BEFORE AND AFTER WE DEPLOY.
WE SAW CRASHES HAVE REDUCED, RANGING FROM 26 TO 70 PERCENT
IN SOME OF THOSE LOCATIONS.
BETWEEN THE LOCATIONS.
WITH THE DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED SYSTEMICALLY, WE HAVE
DEVELOPED A DASHBOARD TO BE ABLE TO MANAGE THE INFORMATION.
THIS IS NOT JUST A ONE-TIME THING.
THIS IS EXPECTED TO BE A LONG-TERM MANAGING STRATEGY FOR
PAVEMENT AND FRICTION.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN IS A DASHBOARD, SEE THOSE
AREAS THAT HAVE A HIGHER NEED FOR FRICTION.
OVERALL, WHAT THE PROJECT, THE PILOT PROJECT, THE END GOAL
OF THIS IS TO -- WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON -- WHAT YOU
WILL SEE NUMBER SIX AND SEVEN, IS IMPLEMENT AND INTEGRATE
INTO OUR RESURFACING POLICY.
RIGHT NOW, OUR POLICY PRIORITIZES PROGRAMS BASED ON --
SAFETY IS A PRIMARY FACTOR IN REDUCING LANE DEPARTURE
CRASHES.

BY INTEGRATING FRICTION INTO THE RESURFACING POLICY AS A
FACTOR FOR PRIORITIZING OUR RESURFACING PROJECTS, WE CAN
CONTINUE MOVING THE NEEDLE TO REDUCE FATALITIES AND SERIOUS
INJURIES.
WITH THAT, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE WORK ZONE SAFETY MONTH THIS
WEEK ESPECIALLY.
RECOGNIZE WORK ZONE SAFETY.
I WANT TO BRING THAT UP TO YOU.
WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS.
10:02:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:02:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.
YOU HIGHLIGHTED AN INTERSECTION, HILLSBOROUGH AND CENTRAL.
I DRIVE THAT AT LEAST TWICE, MAYBE THREE TIMES A DAY.
WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU DO?
RIGHT NOW THAT AREA IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
SO THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY PAVEMENT THAT'S BEEN TOUCHED THERE
EXCEPT ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
10:03:07AM >> ON THE EASTBOUND END, THIS WAS DONE IN 2021, 2022, WE
IMPLEMENTED -- THE EASTBOUND APPROACH HAD AS AN OVERLAY OF
THIS HIGH FRICTION SURFACE TREATMENT.
I THINK I HAD A PICTURE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
YOU SEE IN THE PICTURE ON THE TOP RIGHT, THAT IS THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING PAVEMENT AND THE HIGH

FRICTION, IT'S A HIGHER, COARSER AGGREGATE THAT YOU SEE ON
THE PAVEMENT.
10:03:42AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT WAS DONE A WHILE AGO.
THAT CLARIFIES THAT.
THANK YOU.
AND I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE
TO ANSWER.
I KNOW F.D.O.T. IS A REALLY LARGE ORGANIZATION.
I WAS JUST AT A MEETING FOR THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
STORMWATER PROJECT THAT DEALS WITH WHERE WE HAD QUESTIONS
ABOUT FLORIDA AVENUE REPAVING.
THERE IS A SECTION JUST SOUTH OF HILLSBOROUGH.
THE NORTHBOUND SECTION THAT HAS BEEN UNPAVED -- ACTUALLY,
BOTH, NORTH AND SOUTH, THAT HAS BEEN UNPAVED FOR I THINK
GOING ON TWO YEARS NOW.
AND WE HAD A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.
NELSON COULDN'T ASK, AND THEN F.D.O.T. WAS ACTUALLY AT A
MEETING AT SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION, THE EXACT SAME NIGHT.
F.D.O.T. COULDN'T ANSWER IT.
THEY SAID IT WAS THE CITY'S PROBLEM.
I WOULD JUST ASK THAT YOU ALL GET TOGETHER AND FIGURE OUT
WHOSE PROBLEM IT IS SO WE CAN GET THAT PAVED.
I ALSO SPOKE TO MR. BAIRD ABOUT IT THIS MORNING.
THAT'S WHY I RACED OUT.

WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET AN ANSWER HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF
THE DAY.
10:04:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:04:46AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING BY --
10:04:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOUR MICROPHONE.
10:04:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
-- STOP AT A MUCH QUICKER RATE THAN IN
THE PAST.
HOWEVER, US BEING HUMANS, THERE IS A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH ALL
THAT, NOT THAT YOU'RE WRONG.
YOU'RE RIGHT.
HOWEVER, HERE'S WHAT I NOTICED IN MY DRIVING EXPERIENCE.
FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE CHANGING THE WAY WE HAVE AUTOMOBILES
MANUFACTURED.
THEY ARE GOING FROM GAS ENGINES TO ELECTRICAL ENGINES AND
HYBRID.
IN FACT, RIGHT NOW, HYBRIDS ARE OUTSELLING THE ELECTRICAL.
BUT THAT WILL CHANGE IN THE FUTURE AND YOU'LL HAVE CARS
HYDROGEN, EVEN WATER ENGINE, SO THE NOISE IS ZERO.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY ARE GOING TO DRIVE FASTER.
THEY ARE GOING TO GO FURTHER.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO STOP FOR REFUELING AS OFTEN.
HOWEVER, THE NO NOISE THING IS A VERY TROUBLING THING FOR
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE WALKING, CHANGING, RIDING BIKES,
WHATEVER MODE OF TRANSPORTATION OTHER THAN THE AUTOMOBILE.
AND IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE NEED.

AND IF WE DON'T CHANGE THE METHODOLOGY OF WHICH WE MOVE AND
TRANSPORT OURSELVES, WHICH IS NOW, I WOULD SAY 99%
AUTOMOBILE TO SOME DEGREE, WE'RE GOING TO EXPERIENCE
SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY
NOT WANTED IN THIS WHOLE COUNTRY.
SOME CITIES ALREADY HAVE IT FOR A HUNDRED YEARS.
MODE OF TRANSPORTATION DIFFERENT THAN AUTOMOBILES AND THEY
WORK.
HOWEVER, CITIES LIKE TAMPA AND OTHERS LIKE US FIND IT VERY
DIFFICULT TO PUT IT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE STREETS RIGHT
NOW FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
I LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE THE AIRPORT HAS, AND THAT WORKS
THERE.
WHY IS IT THAT WE DON'T LOOK AT SOMETHING TO MAKE IT WORK
HERE?
NOT ONLY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA BUT THROUGHOUT THE
TRANSPORTATION NETWORK OF THE WHOLE STATE OF FLORIDA.
IT'S GOT TO CHANGE WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.
WHEN YOU SEE THINGS COMING UP, THEY SAY, WELL, WE WANT A
LESSER PARKING RATIO.
I SAY MAYBE IT WORKS AND MAYBE IT DOESN'T.
THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THAT, IF IT DOESN'T WORK, WHERE ARE
YOU GOING TO PARK THE CARS IF YOU DON'T BUILD THE GARAGES?
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT.
SO IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, WHAT DO WE DO?

DO WE STAY THE WAY WE ARE OR DO WE THINK IN THE FUTURE IT
WILL CHANGE SO THEY DON'T NEED THE GARAGE.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE TROUBLING TO US AND TO OTHERS
WHO WANT TO BUILD THE BUILDINGS BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT
TO FORECAST THE FUTURE WHEN WE KEEP DOING THE SAME THING,
ONLY ADDRESSING INTERSECTION.
THAT'S NEEDED.
DON'T GET ME WRONG, MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.
GOT TO BE SOMETHING COMING FROM SOMEWHERE, UPPER LEVEL OF
GOVERNMENT TO SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE
THIS CITY AND OTHER CITIES VIABLE SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO RELY
ON THE CAR.
EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING NOW IS TO FACILITATE WHAT THE CAR.
BUILT AN EXPRESSWAY WITH FIVE LANES, WHEN YOU NEED MORE, YOU
ADD ANOTHER LANE.
ARE WE DOING THE RIGHT THING?
I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S YOUR DEPARTMENT, SIR.
NOT YOU PARTICULARLY, BUT WHO YOU WORK FOR.
SO WE NEED SOME CLEARANCE ON THESE THINGS, AND I WISH WE
CHANGE OUR OPERATIONAL MODE SOMEWHAT TO BRING SOMETHING TO
THE TABLE OTHER THAN AUTOMOBILES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
HOPE IT DOES WORK.

10:07:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
THANK YOU.
MR. SHELBY, WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:08:05AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY
AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ADDRESS
ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TAKES OFFICIAL
ACTION ON AN ITEM.
A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS PROVIDING
PUBLIC COMMENT.
SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED TO
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING MAKING
VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM MAKING PERSONAL
ATTACKS AGAINST ANY CITY OFFICIAL, STAFF MEMBER, OR MEMBERS
OF THE PUBLIC.
THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL
FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE COUNCIL RULES MAY ALSO BE
RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE

REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF TODAY'S
MEETING.
IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS SET FOR A PUBLIC HEARING,
YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY WHEN THAT ITEM IS HEARD LATER
IN THE AGENDA.
NO PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN LATER DURING STAFF REPORTS.
THE TIME TO SPEAK ABOUT THOSE ITEMS ON STAFF REPORTS AND
ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS NOW DURING GENERAL PUBLIC
COMMENT.
FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE THAT CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE
QUESTIONS OR HAVE A DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
THANK YOU.
10:09:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE'LL GO TO IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES AND THEN WE'LL GO TO THE
REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
10:09:52AM >> JANNA BERNSTEIN.
28 SOUTH TREASURE DRIVE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT TONIGHT IS THE 249th
ANNIVERSARY OF PAUL REVERE'S RIDE FOR THE AMERICAN
REVOLUTION FOR BOSTON, LEXINGTON AND CONCORD, MASSACHUSETTS

FOR THE REVOLUTION THAT CREATED OUR COUNTRY.
AMERICAN HISTORY.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, BORN AND RAISED HERE.
BORN IN 1969, ST. JOSEPH'S HOSPITAL.
H.B. PLANT.
ONE OF MY SCHOOLMATES WAS HONORED BY HER FATHER HERE IN
TAMPA.
FIRST OF ALL, LIKE TO DISCUSS THE TREES.
BAYSHORE BOULEVARD HAS BEAUTIFUL DATE PALMS, BUT THEY ARE
BEING ROTTED AWAY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CARED FOR.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 40 YEARS OF GROWTH ON THOSE PALM TREES
AND THROWING IN CHEAP OLD ROYALS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.
CSX NEEDS TO FIX THE CROSSWALK ON RIVERWALK.
AN OLDER PERSON CAN TRIP HOW BAD THE ASPHALT IS.
THIS IS MY ARM FROM ALL THE POTHOLES FROM RIDING MY E-BIKE
AT NIGHT.
F.D.O.T., CONGRATULATIONS, RESURFACED KENNEDY BOULEVARD AND
NOW YOU'RE DIGGING IT UP FOR NEW WATER MAINS AND NOT FILLING
IT IN PROPERLY.
SO AT NIGHT, WHEN I HAVE LEGAL RIGHT TO THREE FOOT TO THE
EDGE OF THE ROAD, I'M GOING LIKE THIS AND THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENED TO ME BECAUSE OF YOUR POTHOLES.
TALK ABOUT THE FLAGS ON THE BUILDING ON THE TOP HERE.
I'VE SEEN THAT CITY FLAG ABOVE A P.O.W. FLAG THAT WAS
CHANGED.

THE U.S. FLAG GOES ON THE TOP OF THE POLE.
THE P.O.W. FLAG IS A FEDERAL FLAG, GOES BELOW IT.
THAT FLAG GOES WAY, WAY BELOW THE FLAG.
I HAVE SEEN THAT FLAG HIGHER RAISED THAN THE P.O.W. FLAG ON
THE FLAGPOLE.
IT'S SINCE BEEN FIXED.
KEEP IN MIND OF THAT.
THE LOGO.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY BUT
FORGET THE FACT THAT FLORIDA WAS A CONFEDERATE STATE.
BOB BUCKHORN DID NOT WANT THE CONFEDERATE WAR MEMORIAL IN A
CITY CEMETERY.
THE OLD CITY CEMETERY IS STILL DILAPIDATED.
I'M THE ONE THAT HELPED RESTORE THE GRAVES IN FREE.
I'M THE ONE THAT KNOWS THAT THE FIRST GOVERNOR AND ALL THE
PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT CREATED THE CITY, THAT ARE BURIED THERE
THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO CALL TREASONOUS, OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
WE FOUGHT THE BRITISH.
I GUESS ALL OF GEORGE WASHINGTON AND THEM WERE TREASONOUS TO
THE BRITISH CROWN.
SHOULD WE JUST GIVE UP OUR RIGHTS AS AMERICANS AND GIVE THE
LAND BACK TO BRITAIN BECAUSE THEY SECEDED FROM ENGLAND?
LONG STORY SHORT, I'M HERE BECAUSE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT CAN
BE FIXED.
PAINTING ON ALL THE ROADS.

YOU NEED A BIKE LANE THAT SHOWS A BIKE WITH ARROWS ON ALL
MAJOR ROADS, MacDILL, WHEREVER THERE IS NO BIKE LANE,
PLEASE PUT A PAINTED SIGN.
ON KENNEDY, FROM HOWARD DRIVING UP, PEOPLE ARE PULLING UP TO
ME AND TRYING TO CUT ME OFF ON THE ROAD.
I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO RIDE MY BIKE ON A SIDEWALK.
I'VE BEEN HIT, ARRAWANA, POLICE REPORT BECAUSE I DID RIDE ON
THE SIDEWALK AND THE GUY WAS ONLY LOOKING IN THIS DIRECTION
TO THE RIGHT, HIT MY TIRE.
SO THERE IS A POLICE REPORT ON THAT.
ANOTHER THING, OVERDEVELOPMENT AND ALLOWING ALL THESE CHOP
SHOP MEGAMANSIONS GOING UP IN THESE AREAS, I PRAY TO GOD WE
DON'T GET A CAT 5 HURRICANE BECAUSE YOU'RE ALLOWING
OVERDEVELOPMENT ON VERY, VERY OLD INFRASTRUCTURE.
MY OWN FAMILY, MY FATHER IS 91, HE'S BEEN PAYING TAXES HERE
SINCE 1965, I'M BORN HERE IN 69, PLEASE REEVALUATE WHAT
YOU'RE DOING IN THE CITY AND HELP MAKE POSITIVE, POSITIVE
IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE FUTURE.
10:13:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:13:20AM >> GOOD MORNING.
BOBBY KRADEN.
I LIVE IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.
I'M HERE AGAIN TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE OF VACANT AND

DETERIORATING STRUCTURES IN THE CODE.
I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR THEIR INTEREST IN THAT TOPIC AND
FOR THE TIME TO TAKE TO CONSIDER IT.
I WORK IN HEALTH CARE.
I TRY TO DRAW ANALOGIES BETWEEN PROBLEMS I SEE IN THE CITY
AND WAYS WE TEND TO EVALUATE PROBLEMS IN HEALTH CARE.
IT SEEMS LIKE SOME OF THE ISSUES WE FACE WITH THIS
PARTICULAR ISSUE ON HOW SYMPTOMS ARE MANAGED.
WE IN HEALTH CARE OFTEN THINK ABOUT THE FREQUENCY, DURATION,
SEVERITY OF SYMPTOMS WHEN THEY OCCUR.
SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS THAT I'VE OFFERED FOR THIS PROBLEM I
THINK TEND TO MAP CLOSELY TO THAT FREQUENCY.
HOW DO WE KEEP THESE TYPES OF STRUCTURES FROM APPEARING IN
OUR NEIGHBORHOODS?
HOW DO WE IMPLEMENT OR SUPPORT PROGRAMS THAT HELP PEOPLE
STAY IN HOMES, HELP FAMILIES THAT MIGHT BE AT RISK OF LOSING
HOMES, HELP ELDERLY PEOPLE PASS THAT HOME ON TO THE NEXT
GENERATION SO IT DOESN'T BECOME A DATA POINT THAT'S HARMING
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE DURATION FOR HOW LONG THE STRUCTURES REMAIN BOARDED AND
THE DETRIMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THEY ARE FOUND.
I'M SURE WAYS WE CAN EXAMINE THE CODE TO CUT DOWN ON WHAT IS
RIGHT NOW UNLIMITED LENGTH OF TIME THAT THE STRUCTURES ARE
ALLOWED TO REMAIN A BLIGHT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I CAN GET INTO SPECIFICS, BUT WE CAN TALK OFF-LINE ABOUT

THAT.
THE LAST POINT IS THE SEVERITY.
HOW DO WE DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF HARM THAT THESE TYPES OF
STRUCTURES TEND TO PRODUCE IN NEIGHBORHOODS?
ONE OF THE METHODS THAT I'VE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY HAS BEEN
CLEAR BOARDING, SO THAT WHEN PASSERS-BY INTERACT WITH THE
SPACE OR PERCEIVE IT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT HAS LESS OF A
BLIGHTED EFFECT, LESS OF A HARMFUL EFFECT AND MUCH MORE TO
SAY ON THAT.
KEEP IT SHORT AND SWEET.
JUST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR THEIR INTEREST.
OPEN MYSELF UP FOR ANY FURTHER MEETINGS IF ANYONE IS
INTERESTED SO WE CAN ADDRESS THE ISSUE IN THE FUTURE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
YES, MA'AM.
GOOD MORNING.
10:15:26AM >> GOOD MORNING.
VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE De LEON AND COLLEGE HILL.
I WANT TO JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RESOLUTION 568.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR-ALL SUPPORT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR PASSING IT.
WE SEEM TO BE OFF TO A GOOD START.
BUT BASED ON TAMPA HISTORY, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE 568.
AND WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT SOME LITTLE GROUND RULES.

WE ARE THE RESOLUTION 568 COMMITTEE, AND ON THE COMMITTEE,
THE NAACP WE HAVE A PERMANENT SEAT ON THE BOARD.
WE FOUGHT A LONG UPHILL BATTLE, AND WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE
PEOPLE COMING, WANT TO RIDE ON OUR COATTAILS AFTER ALL THE
HARD WORK DONE AND WE GO INTO PHASE TWO.
ANYWAY, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH THE CITY
CHOSEN MEMBERS.
568 RESOLUTION, RESOLUTION 568, WE HAVE BEEN MEETING AND WE
ARE NOT GIVING UP OUR SEATS.
AND NO ONE PERSON SHALL STACK THE COMMITTEE SEATS.
THE RESOLUTION COMMITTEE IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY OF
TAMPA AND THE RESOLUTION 568 COMMITTEE.
WE ARE TO ACT IN GOOD FAITH AND BE TRANSPARENT, HAVE OPEN,
HONEST, AND SOMETIMES PAINFUL CONVERSATION.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE ARE GOING TO REMOVE THE BARRIERS THAT
WAS PUT IN PLACE TO HARM BLACK PEOPLE.
WE NEED THOUGHTFUL AND TARGETED INVESTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY
TO SPUR ECONOMIC GROWTH.
FAIR AND OBTAINABLE HOUSING.
WE WANT KEYS.
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AFFORDABLE AND OBTAINABLE
HOUSING.
I HAVE TWO HOUSES IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SOLD FOR OVER
600,000.
MOST OF THE HOUSES THAT'S BEEN SAID THAT THEY ARE

AFFORDABLE, THEY ARE 450,000.
THEY ARE AFFORDABLE FOR SOMEBODY, JUST NOT THE ONES OF US
WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE ALSO NEED JOB TRAINING WITH A MEASURABLE OUTCOME, AND
THAT OUTCOME WOULD BE DO WE GET A PAYCHECK?
IF WE DO, THAT'S SOME GOOD JOB TRAINING.
AND WE NEED APPRENTICESHIP WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
WE NEED PEOPLE WHO LOVE EAST TAMPA AND THE PEOPLE OF EAST
TAMPA.
THE FORGOTTEN PEOPLE, THE ONES WHO WERE RAISED IN BELMONT
HEIGHTS, JACKSON HEIGHTS, COLLEGE HILL, AND PONCE De LEON.
THE ONES WHO ARE STILL STANDING AFTER BEING ATTACKED DAY IN
AND DAY OUT.
THE ONES WHO THE ORDINANCE WAS ENACTED FOR.
THE ONES HOUSING POLICY ENACTED FOR AND THE ONES
OVER-POLICED.
THERE ARE NUMEROUS UNSUNG HEROES AND ACTIVISTS IN EAST TAMPA
WHO HAVE BEEN PUSHING OTHERS TO BE THE BEST THAT THEY CAN
BE, HELPING OTHERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WHO HOLD THE
COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
THE ONES WHO DON'T HAVE A PLATFORM, THE ONES WHO DON'T GET
PAID.
THE ONES WHO ARE OVERLOOKED.
WE DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL, JUST CHANGE THE SPOKES.
WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER BLACK FACE WITH A HIDDEN AGENDA,

ANOTHER PUPPET, SOMEONE WHO DON'T CARE ABOUT EAST TAMPA OR
SOMEONE WHO MAKES MONEY OFF OF OUR PAIN.
WE CAN REMOVE THE BARRIERS IF THE RIGHT PEOPLE ARE PUT IN
PLACE.
IT'S A SAD DAY WHEN THE BOYS AND GIRLS OF EAST TAMPA DEALING
WITH THE SAME ISSUES I DEALT WITH 50 YEARS AGO.
THAT IS SAD.
10:18:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR, GOOD MORNING.
10:18:55AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
MY NAME IS DARYL HYCH.
I WANT TO TALK ALSO ON RESOLUTION NUMBER 568, WHICH IS
SURPRISINGLY TODAY'S STAFF REPORT NUMBER 86.
THE LAST TIME WE WERE DOWN HERE, I RECALLED ONE OF THE
COUNCILMEN MENTIONING IF THERE IS A WAY TO MOVE THIS AGENDA
A LITTLE FURTHER AT THE BEGINNING SO WE WOULDN'T BE DOWN
HERE THE REST OF THE DAY AS WE WERE LAST TIME.
I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER THAT, MR. CHAIRMAN, BECAUSE
THAT WAS A STATED REQUEST.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TODAY, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU
FOR MOVING THIS AGENDA ITEM FORWARD AND THIS RESOLUTION
FORWARD.
BUT I WANT TO MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN
LISTENING TO LAST WEEK, AND WE WERE DISCUSSING THE AMOUNT OF
PEOPLE AND INDIVIDUALS AND THOSE WHO SHOULD BE ON THIS

COMMISSION.
I THINK WE MAY BE LOOKING AT THIS THING FROM A
MICROPERSPECTIVE.
I BELIEVE AFTER DOING SOME LIMITED RESEARCH THAT WE NEED TO
HAVE A MINIMUM OF NO MORE -- A MINIMUM OF 30 PEOPLE ON THIS
COMMISSION.
HERE'S WHY I WOULD STATE THAT ACCORDINGLY.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THE SIX POINTS, I'LL TRY TO
RUSH THROUGH THEM.
SIX AREAS TO BE ADDRESSED.
EQUITY ACCESS OPPORTUNITY AND EDUCATION EMPLOYMENT HEALTH
CARE AND HOUSING, YOU NEED SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS EQUITY
AND INCLUSION CONSULTANT, A POLICY ANALYST, A COMMUNITY
ORGANIZER, A DATA SCIENTIST, SOMEONE THAT'S PART OF LEGAL
COUNSEL TO ADDRESS NUMBER TWO, POLICIES AND PROGRAMS TO
EDUCATE RESIDENTS ABOUT THE INJUSTICE OF SLAVERY AND RACIAL
DISCRIMINATION.
YOU NEED AN HISTORIAN, EDUCATION SPECIALIST, A COMMUNITY
ORGANIZER, ACTIVIST OF CULTURAL COMPETENCE TRAINER, SOMEONE
THAT IS PART OF LEGAL COUNSEL.
FOR STRATEGIES TO PROMOTE RACIAL NEUTRAL POLICIES AND
EDUCATION EMPLOYMENT AND HEALTH CARE AND HOUSING, YOU NEED
EQUITY AND INCLUSION CONSULTANT.
A POLICY ANALYST, A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, AGAIN, A LEGAL
COUNSEL, TO ADDRESS REFORMS TO -- TO ADDRESS REFORMS TO

POLICING AND REDUCE THE RACIAL DISPARITIES TO ENSURE
COMMUNITY SAFETY, YOU NEED A CIVIL RIGHTS ATTORNEY.
A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER, A LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERT, A POLICY
ANALYST, SOMEONE WHO IS WITH THE SOCIAL JUSTICE ADVOCATE.
POLICIES TO ELIMINATE DISPROPORTIONATE MASS INCARCERATION
AND TO PROMOTE REHABILITATION, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU HAVE A
CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM ADVOCATE, A REENTRY SPECIALIST, A
POLICY ANALYST.
TO PROTECT THE RIGHT TO VOTE FOR DISCRIMINATION BASED UPON
RACE, YOU NEED A DATA ANALYST, AN ELECTION ADMINISTRATION
EXPERT, A POLITICAL STRATEGIST.
YOU NEED A MINIMUM OF 30 PEOPLE THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO
SIT ON THIS COMMISSION AND LOOK AT THIS THING AS IF YOU'RE
WORKING ON IT FROM A SCRUM PROJECT, IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH
SCRUM, YOU CANNOT BRING A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIMITED
EXPERTISE TO WORK ON ALL THESE VARIABLES.
SO I'D ASK YOU PLEASE CONSIDER THAT AND EVEN MORE SO, PLEASE
BRING THIS ITEM BEFORE NUMBER 86.
THAT'S LIKE 8:00 TONIGHT.
10:22:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
YES, MA'AM, GOOD MORNING.
10:22:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, DR. MICHELLE
WILLIAMS.
I GUESS I'M GOING TO STILL REMAIN THE MORAL COMPASS FOR THE
GROUP.

THIS MORNING, WHILE I WAS DRIVING HERE, SOMETHING THAT I
OFTEN SAY WHEN I'M AT CHURCH ON SUNDAY.
I ALWAYS ASK GOD TO MOLD THESE LIPS OF CLAY SO THAT THE
PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE MESSENGER, BUT LISTEN TO
THE MESSENGERS WITH CHRIST-FILLED EARS.
IN THE BOOK OF ZECHARIAH, THE NINTH CHAPTER IN THE THIRD
VERSE, TYRE BUILT HERSELF UP AS IF SHE HAD TAKEN ALL THE
SILVER AND THE GOLD.
AND ALL THE FINE DUST AS IT WAS THE MIRE OF THE STREETS, BUT
BEHOLD, THE LORD WILL CAST HER OUT, AND HE WILL SMITE HER
POWER IN THE SEA, AND SHE WILL BE DEVOURED BY FIRE.
NOW, LET ME GO ON THE RECORD TO SAY FOR SOME OF THOSE WHO
MAY BE WATCHING AT HOME, THE WORD MIRE DERIVES FROM THE
MEANING, A SITUATION OR A STATE OF DIFFICULTY, DISTRESS OR
EMBARRASSMENT, FROM WHICH IT IS HARD TO ERADICATE ONE'S SELF
AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE FINDING OURSELVES.
WE CAN'T ERADICATE OURSELVES FROM A DECISION THAT WAS MADE
FOUR YEARS AGO TO IMPLEMENT A RESOLUTION BOARD.
568 FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
WE ALL HAVE CHOICES IN LIFE.
AND THE CHOICES WE MAKE CAN VERY WELL BRING WRATH UPON US BY
GOD.
YOUR WILLINGNESS DOES NOT MERIT SINCERITY IF IT DOESN'T
REACH THOSE WHO ARE DESOLATE AND TO FULFILL THE PROMISES
THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY THIS BOARD, SEPTEMBER THE 3rd,

2020.
AND BEFORE I CLOSE WITH YOU TODAY, ALLOW ME TO ADD THAT NONE
OF YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GAIN SALVATION THROUGH GOOD WORKS,
BECAUSE YOUR BEST WORKS ARE NOT EVEN GOOD ENOUGH IF YOUR
SINS OUTWEIGH THAT.
IT'S A SIN BEFORE GOD THAT FOUR YEARS HAVE PASSED AND
NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.
IT TOOK AN ACTIVIST AND A DISCOVERY, ONE WHO HAS GREAT
PASSION FOR THIS COMMUNITY TO BRING THIS MERIT FORTH FOR US
TO EVEN HAVE THE AMOUNT OF TEETH THAT WE DO HAVE IN IT,
RIGHT NOW.
IT IS THIS COMMUNITY.
IT IS THESE MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN HERE EVERY THURSDAY, WHO
SHOULD BE ON THAT BOARD.
NOT THE SAME COTTON PICKING BLACK PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO GOOD
INTEREST FOR US.
I DON'T SEE ANY OF THESE REVERENDS NOR THESE BISHOPS IN EAST
TAMPA WALKING THE STREETS LIKE WE DO, KNOCKING ON DOORS LIKE
WE DO.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I HAD MY ASS HANDED TO ME
SEVERAL TIMES BY GOD AND IT WAS NOT A GOOD PLEASURE.
AND I DON'T WANT TO GO BACK ON THAT END.
BUT LIKE I SAY, I PROMISE YOU, THIS IS MY LAST TIME AT THIS
PODIUM TALKING ABOUT RESOLUTION 568 BECAUSE I STAND ON
BUSINESS, AND I STAND ON GOD.

IF YOU NEED TO BE SUED, THAT'S WHERE I'M HEADED.
10:25:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM.
GOOD MORNING.
10:25:26AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS REESHEMAH McCOY.
I ECHO THE SAME SENTIMENTS.
568.
WE HAVE TO HAVE BALANCE.
WE NEED SUBJECT EXPERTS.
THEY BROKE IT DOWN, GENTLEMAN BROKE IT DOWN PERFECTLY.
PEOPLE WITH LIVED EXPERTISE, PEOPLE THAT BEEN THERE, PEOPLE
LIKE ME, STAGE 2 CANCER PATIENT, I GET IT.
I HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT, 19 YEARS LIVING IN SULPHUR
SPRINGS AS A HOMEOWNER AND STILL NOT GETTING THE RESPECT OF
MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I NEED AND DESERVE FOR ME AND MY FAMILY
OR MY COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T WANT TO DUPLICATE WHATEVER SYSTEM THAT YOU ALREADY
HAVE.
WE NEED SOMETHING BETTER, SOMETHING INVENTIVE.
YOU GUYS ARE ON THE FRONT LINE OF CHANGE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU MAKE IT HAPPEN WHERE WE CAN
UNDERSTAND THAT YOU MEAN WELL FOR US.
YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO SET THE PRECEDENCE OF SOMETHING GREAT.
SO WE'RE NOT HERE FOR NO GOOD REASON.

WE NEED FRESH EYES.
WE NEED FRESH APPROACHES.
WE NEED MONEY.
I'M ASKING FOR $150,000 TO START WITH.
JUST TO START WITH.
YOU GOT IT.
I'VE SEEN YOU ALL THROW THAT MONEY AWAY ON TRACTORS.
BOARDWALK, MILLION DOLLARS FOR, YOU KNOW, SWING SETS.
THAT'S NOTHING.
BUT TO START WITH, HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY ASK FOR MONEY YET.
WE NEED MONEY.
IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT, YOU GOT TO DO IT RIGHT.
YOU ALL KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.
NOBODY COMES TO -- I'M ALWAYS GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW NOBODY
COMES TO SULPHUR SPRINGS, NOT SAY, LET'S MEET IN SULPHUR
SPRINGS TO GET DINNER TONIGHT.
NOBODY DOES THAT.
LET'S GO TO EAST TAMPA AND HANG OUT.
NOBODY DOES THAT.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE IT A PLACE THAT'S GOING TO BE CORDIAL,
SOME PLACES EVEN YOU WANT TO SHOW UP.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO COME OVER TO SULPHUR SPRINGS TO HAVE
LUNCH TODAY AFTER LUNCH.
NO, DIDN'T THINK SO.
FOOD BOXES, NEITHER DO I.

WE GOT TO DO IT AND DO IT RIGHT.
THANK YOU.
10:27:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD MORNING.
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:27:49AM >> GOOD MORNING, CONNIE BURTON.
FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS.
DON'T EVER GET MY PASSION CONFUSED WITH MY ANGER.
MY PASSION AND MY COMMITMENT IS COMING HERE ON A THURSDAY.
MY ANGER IS IT SPREADS WHEN I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE
COMMUNITY AND SAY THERE HAVE BEEN NO DELIVERABLES.
NOTHING THAT WAS GIVEN TO THIS COMMUNITY WEEK AFTER WEEK.
YOU KNOW, I KEEP HEARING THE WORD WAIT.
BUT WAIT GIVE RISE TO THOSE WHO HAVE PRIVILEGE.
TO THE WAITERS THAT HAVE TO WAIT FOR JUSTICE THAT'S ONGOING
PAIN.
AND WE ARE AT A POINT, WHETHER JAMES BROWN, JAMES BALDWIN,
OR DR. KING SAYING, WAITING, WAITING TO THE OPPRESSED IS
ONGOING SUFFERING.
WE'RE SAYING IT IS TIME TO MOVE FORWARD.
I GAVE YOU THIS MEMO BECAUSE I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY,
UNPLEASURABLE TO BE REPRESENTED BY THREE GOOD ATTORNEYS.
WILL KNIGHT, GUY BURNS, AND THE LATE GREAT BARRY COHEN.

BARRY COHEN SHUT IT ALL DOWN.
WALK THROUGH A COURTHOUSE AND DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO TO THE
PODIUM.
THEY KNOW WHY HE WAS THERE.
BARRY COHEN WROTE THIS MEMO TO THE CHIEF JUDGE AND 2015 SAID
IT IS SOMETHING UGLY THAT IS HAPPENING AS IT RELATES TO
AFRICAN AMERICANS.
IT IS SOMETHING HAPPENING WITH THE JUDICIARY AND WITH JUDGES
THAT IS SO AFRAID OF POLITICAL FALLOUT AND THAT IS THE
ONGOING LYING THAT PUT AFRICAN AMERICANS IN HARM.
WE ALL KNOW IT.
OUR COMMUNITY IS SUFFERING FROM MASS INCARCERATION.
THIS CITY, THIS COUNTY ADJUDICATE MORE JUVENILES TO THE
ADULT SYSTEM.
WE HAVE MORE BLACK MEN IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT COMMITTED
CRIMES WHEN THEY WERE 18, 40 YEARS OLD NOW AND CAN'T PASS A
LEVEL TWO BACKGROUND TO GET A DECENT JOB.
UNFORGIVABLE.
WE BELIEVE RESOLUTION 568 CAN START ADDRESSING THAT BECAUSE
WE GOT TO HAVE GREATER ADVOCACY.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE THAT HAVE THE LENS OF WANTING MORE
POLITICAL FUTURE SO THE COMMUNITY CAN UNDERSTAND WHO
REPRESENT OUR INTERESTS.
WE ARE IN A VERY DEPRESSED SITUATION, BECAUSE WHAT WE HEAR
COMING FROM THIS COUNCIL, WAITING NINE MORE YEARS OR WAITING

TEN MORE YEARS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ALL RIGHT.
WAITING NINE MORE YEARS, TEN MORE YEARS FOR JUSTICE IS
UNACCEPTABLE.
RESOLUTION 568 HAS TO HAVE THE VOICES OF THOSE WITH LIVED
EXPERIENCE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, WE ARE ALREADY MEETING.
10:30:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE, SIR.
GOOD MORNING, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:31:05AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
I WANT TO SAY THIS CITY NEED TWO THINGS: SENSITIVITY
TRAINING AND MAYBE WE NEED ALL CITY EMPLOYEES TO GO TO AAA
OR SOMETHING, ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE
CITY HAVE A BUNCH OF INTOXICATED PEOPLE.
LOOK LIKE THEY ARE DRUNK BEFORE THEY EVEN GET HERE.
AND THEN TRY TO GET SOME KIND OF SPECIAL PRIVILEGES WHERE
WE, WHEN OUR YOUNG PEOPLE GET CAUGHT WITH A, WHATEVER,
STOLEN BICYCLE, STOLEN OR NOT, SUNGLASSES.
SUSAN LOPEZ TRYING TO GET FREE CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING BY
GIVING AFRICAN WOMAN 30 YEARS, ENDORSING AFRICAN WOMAN
GETTING 30 YEARS, HOW HATEFUL CAN YOU BE?
THIS MORNING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT ADOLF HITLER.
HOW MUCH OF A GREAT MAN ADOLF HITLER WAS.

I'M SURE WHEN EVERYBODY HEAR THAT, ESPECIALLY JEWISH PEOPLE,
IT RUBS THEM THE WRONG WAY.
THEY ARE VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT THAT.
AND I AS AN AFRICAN PERSON, I'M VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT CERTAIN
THINGS.
VERY SENSITIVE.
YOU UNDERSTAND?
I'M SENSITIVE WHEN I HEAR THE WORD FDR, FRANKLIN DELANO
ROOSEVELT, WINSTON CHURCHILL, WHEN I HEAR THOSE WORDS, WHEN
I HEAR THOSE NAMES.
IT'S JUST LIKE HEARING THE WORD ADOLF HITLER TO A JEWISH
PERSON.
A BUNCH OF RACIST CLOWNS, NOTHING MORE AND NOTHING LESS.
WE AS AFRICAN PEOPLE, WE HAVE TO STAND UP.
WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT'S IMPORTANT, REPARATIONS, CAPITALISM,
SOCIALISM, COMMUNISM.
COMMUNISM IS SO IMPORTANT NOW.
PEOPLE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT, BUT YOU HEAR RICK SCOTT AND
DESANTIS SAY THEY EVEN GOING TO PUT IT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THEY SAY THEY DON'T PUT IT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO LET YOU
KNOW WHAT IT IS.
CAPITALISM IS THAT STRONG.
THEY WANT TO TAKE OUT ALL KIND OF SENSITIVITY AND DIVERSITY
PROGRAMS BUT THEY WANT TO PUT IN HOW TO BE A GOOD SLAVE.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

WHITE PEOPLE HAVE TO LEARN TO BE MORE SENSITIVE AND MORE
SENSITIVE TO OUR NEEDS.
AND OUR NEEDS CALL FOR REPARATIONS.
568 CALLED FOR REPARATIONS.
THAT IS A PART OF REPARATIONS.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SCARED OF THE WORD REPARATIONS.
SAY SOMETHING ELSE, OH, NO, THAT, THIS, THAT WAS THEN.
I WANT TO SAY IT NOW AND I'LL SAY IT UNTIL THE DAY -- WELL,
I'M NOT GOING TO DIE.
I WON'T EVEN PUT THAT ON MYSELF.
I WANT TO SAY IT WOULD BE SAID FOREVER, WE DID NOT, OUR
ANCESTORS DID NOT WORK FOR FREE.
YOU ALL CAN KEEP CALLING IT SLAVERY.
THAT'S WORK WE HAVE TO GET PAID FOR.
OUR KIDS GOT TO GET PAID FOR.
GENERATIONS IN THE FUTURE GOT TO GET PAID FOR.
DO YOUR PART AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:34:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT SPEAKER.
YES, MA'AM.
GOOD MORNING.
10:34:23AM >> GOOD MORNING.
STEPHANIE POYNOR.

RESOLUTION 568, THE CANDIDATES FOR THAT BOARD ARE SITTING IN
THIS ROOM.
MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO SHOWED UP
EVERY WEEK ARE A PART OF THAT.
I HOPE THAT CHIEF BENNETT AND THE OTHER FOLKS FROM THE
ADMINISTRATION WHO ARE HERE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S
SOMEBODY TO WATCH THAT BOARD.
I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING THIS MORNING.
I SAT DOWN YESTERDAY MORNING AT 5 A.M. AND I DID A LITTLE
BIT OF RESEARCH ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO TELL YOU THAT 120% OF AMI IS AFFORDABLE
HOUSING, THAT'S POOP.
IT'S MARKET RATE.
WHAT I HAVE DONE HERE IS I'VE ANALYZED ALL THE APARTMENT
BUILDINGS, THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT ARE SURROUNDING MY
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AS YOU CAN SEE, 120% OF AMI IS $2,007 A MONTH FOR HOUSING
COSTS.
ALL OF THESE ARE BELOW THAT.
WHICH MEANS THAT ALL OF THESE FALL UNDER THE AFFORDABLE
UMBRELLA, WHICH MEANS THAT 7400 INTERBAY, WHICH IS A CRAP
PROJECT.
IT WAS A CRAP PROJECT WHEN YOU TURNED IT DOWN A YEAR AGO.
IT'S A CRAP PROJECT UNDER LIVE LOCAL HAS HOODWINKED THE
CITY.

THAT MEANS THAT FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO
LIVE IN THOSE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT THEY HAVE SET ASIDE WILL
HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN APPLICATION PROCESS THAT THE CITY AND
CITY STAFF WILL BE PAID FOR BY THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T JUST MOVE INTO AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNIT
WITHOUT APPLYING FOR IT.
THESE GUYS HAVE HUSTLED THE WHOLE CITY.
I WOULD OFFER THAT WE NEED TO STOP TALKING ABOUT 120% OF AMI
AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IT'S PROBABLY MARKET RATE BECAUSE I LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF
SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE DIRT IN THIS CITY.
AND THIS IS NOT AFFORDABLE.
IT SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AFFORDABLE, AND WE NEED TO MAKE
IT A DEFINITION THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO COME HERE AND TALK
ABOUT AFFORDABLE, IT NEED NOT BE IN THE $80,000 A YEAR FOR
ONE PERSON RANGE.
THIS IS OBNOXIOUS.
IT'S RIDICULOUS.
I'M JUST ABSOLUTELY OFFENDED.
AND THESE ARE THE NUMBERS THAT ARE ON THE WEBSITE.
THESE DO NOT INCLUDE THAT MOST OF THESE COMMUNITIES ARE
OFFERING A FREE MONTH'S RENT ON TOP OF THIS, WHICH FURTHER
REDUCES THIS NUMBER.
BUT THAT APPLICATION IS GOING TO COST US FOR THE NEXT 30

YEARS WE HAVE TO PROCESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THERE'S A REASON WHY YOU UNANIMOUSLY TURN DOWN THE CRAP
PROJECT LAST SUMMER, AND THERE IS A REASON WHY I'VE
CONTACTED OUR STATE SENATORS ABOUT THIS.
THERE IS A REASON WHY I OFFER TWO PETITIONS FOR REVIEW,
BECAUSE IT'S CRAP.
IT WAS CRAP THEN, AND IT'S CRAP NOW.
10:37:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:37:35AM >> LET'S CALL AFFORDABLE WHAT IT REALLY IS.
10:37:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
YES, MA'AM.
GOOD MORNING.
10:37:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS BARBARA VAN AIRSDALE.
SHE STRUCK A NERVE IN ME AGAIN.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE THIS MORNING.
THREE YEARS IN, MY LEASE WAS TO EXPIRE APRIL 1st.
I DIDN'T WANT TO RENEW BECAUSE I'M LIVING IN AN UNACCESSIBLE
UNIT THAT'S VERY DANGEROUS FOR ME OFF FLORIDA AVENUE.
I WAS GIVEN INFORMATION ON HOUSING AFFORDABILITY UNITS FROM
THE CITY OF TAMPA HOUSING AUTHORITY LAST MONTH AFTER I CAME
DOWN HERE AND SPOKE ABOUT THE CRISIS I'M IN, DESPERATELY
NEEDING TO FIND A PLACE BEFORE I SIGN ANOTHER YEAR THAT I
CAN'T AFFORD.
IT'S 70% OF MY SOCIAL SECURITY MONTHLY.

NOT ONLY WAS I GIVEN A LIST OF ADDRESSES AND TOLD THEY HAVE
THIS RMA PROGRAM AVAILABLE FOR ME TO APPLY FOR FOR HELP, I
SPENT TWO DAYS DRIVING TO THE PROPERTIES.
NOT ONE OF THEM WAS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
I'M SORRY.
I'M NOT FROM TAMPA.
WHY WOULD THEY GIVE ME A LIST AND HAVE ME GO TO THESE PLACES
KNOWING NONE OF THEM QUALIFIED?
WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT I HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN ADDRESSES THAT
QUALIFIED, I BASICALLY HAD A MELTDOWN AND REALIZED THIS
SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.
I HAVE STUDIED REAL ESTATE.
IT'S BEEN MY PASSION, MY HOBBY, YEARS, SINCE I WAS 18.
I HAVE NEVER BEEN LEFT IN SUCH A LOOPHOLE WITH A PUZZLE WITH
PIECES THAT DON'T FIT AND WHAT YOU'RE GIVEN TO WORK WITH.
A SOCIAL SECURITY PERSON MY AGE AVERAGES ABOUT $1600 A MONTH
FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IN THE COUNTRY.
I RETIRED EARLY BECAUSE I WAS INJURED AND DISABLED AND HAD A
SPECIAL NEEDS SON TO TAKE CARE OF.
I COULD NO LONGER WORK FULL-TIME AND MANAGE THE COMPANIES
AND WORK THAT I DID.
BUT ON MY INCOME MONTHLY AND TO PAY A THOUSAND PER MONTH
PLUS UTILITIES OR ANYTHING ELSE, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
I CAN'T DO IT.
THREE YEARS AGO WHEN PANDEMIC HIT, WE NEEDED TO PUT RENT

CONTROL AND STOP THESE LANDLORDS FROM RAISING THE RENTS 25,
50 PERCENT, WHATEVER THEY WANTED.
WE'RE AT THEIR MERCY.
WE'RE NOW LOCKED OUT AT RATES THAT ARE UNAFFORDABLE IN THE
AVERAGE ONE-BEDROOM APARTMENT I'VE BEEN TOLD 16 TO $2,000.
ON THAT NOTE I WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD.
I FOUND AN INDIVIDUAL OWNER AND TWO CONDOMINIUMS ON BAYSHORE
BOULEVARD.
$1400 A MONTH APPROXIMATELY WHICH I COULD HAVE SQUEEZED INTO
WITH MY MONEY, BUT AT THE LAST MINUTE, THE REALTOR TOLD ME
YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT THE ONLINE APPLICATION, PAY A FEE.
I TOLD HER MY CREDIT RUINED BY CLOSING IN FT. LAUDERDALE.
SAID IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WE'LL WORK WITH YOU.
DIDN'T WORK WITH ME.
LEFT ME WITHOUT AN ANSWER FOR 48 HOURS.
MY PHONE LOCKED.
NO WAY TO CONTACT ANYBODY DURING TORNADO WARNINGS.
I WENT TO A METRO STORE NOT GETTING HELP.
PEOPLE SCAM YOU.
THEY DO NOT HELP YOU.
I SPENT MY WHOLE AFTERNOON TRYING TO GET A PHONE THAT I
COULD NO LONGER AFFORD TO BUY AND HAD TO PICK UP A PERSON TO
GO WITH ME TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT ILLEGALLY THAT METRO
AGAIN SOLD ME.

CHASE BANK STOPPED MY ACCOUNT ON SUNDAY SAYING LISTEN THESE
CHARGES DON'T ADD UP.
NO BETTER OFF AND STILL LOOKING AND I HAVE AN EXTENSION TO
MAY 1st TO SIGN MY LEASE.
I NEED HELP.
SOMEONE TO GIVE ME HONEST ANSWERS ON THE RMAP APPLICATION
AND IF I EVEN QUALIFY SO I CAN GO ANOTHER STEP FURTHER AND
NOT SPEND ANOTHER FEW DAYS DRIVING AROUND AND CANCELING MY
MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS SO I CAN TRY TO FIND A PLACE TO LIVE.
10:41:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:16AM >> THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
10:41:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
I'LL GO TO THE REGISTERED SPEAKERS ONLINE.
WE HAVE FIVE.
MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH IS FIRST.
GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR.
MR. RANDOLPH, IS HE ON?
IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SPEAKER.
STEPHANIE HARRISON BAILEY.
IS STEPHANIE HARRISON BAILEY ON?
IF YOU ARE ON, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND STATE YOUR NAME.
STEPHANIE HARRISON BAILEY?
ALL RIGHT.
NEXT WE HAVE CHRIS CURRY.
IS CHRIS CURRY ON?
ALL RIGHT.
ED AUSTIN.
IS ED AUSTIN ON?
NO.
DAVID BAILEY.
IS DAVID BAILEY ON?
10:42:49AM >> THIS IS STEPHANIE HARRISON BAILEY.
10:42:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
STEPHANIE HARRISON BAILEY, STATE YOUR
NAME.
GO AHEAD.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:43:00AM >> STEPHANIE HARRISON BAILEY.
SORRY FOR THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
I APOLOGIZE ALSO THAT I AM DRIVING.
I AM JUST SPEAKING BRIEFLY TODAY ON I BELIEVE AGENDA ITEM 85
REGARDING PARKING LOT CODE CHANGES FOR YBOR CITY.
FIRST, I KNOW THAT ABBYE AND THE REST OF CITY STAFF HAVE
BEEN WORKING THEIR BUTTS OFF TO GET ALL OF THESE CHANGES
DRAFTED AND IMPLEMENTED.
AND I JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM A HUGE THANK YOU.
I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING.
AND 80% OF THE DRAFTED LANGUAGE I WOULD SAY THAT OUR
NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY AGREES WITH.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAVE WIGGLED THEIR
WAY INTO THESE CHANGES THAT DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO US AS A
NEIGHBORHOOD.
NUMBER ONE, IT APPEARS THAT STAFF WANTS TO RESET THE CLOCK
FOR THESE NONCONFORMING PARKING LOTS IN YBOR.
MEANING THAT ALTHOUGH THE CODE WAS ORIGINALLY IMPLEMENTED IN
2010, THEY ARE GOING TO GIVE THE SURFACE LOTS AN ADDITIONAL
AMOUNT OF TIME TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WHICH TO US AS
RESIDENTS DON'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING, YES, WE KNOW YOU'VE BEEN NOT IN CODE
FOR A LONG TIME.
AND WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR TWO YEARS WHERE
YOU KNEW THAT YOU WEREN'T IN CODE.
GIVE THEM ADDITIONAL TIME WHEREAS AS AN INTERESTING COUNTER
POINT, WE'VE HAD MANY LOCAL BUSINESSES RED TAGGED LATELY FOR
BEING OUT OF CODE COMPLIANCE.
WITH NO WARNING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE CITY IS NOT QUITE PLAYING FAIR WITH
PARKING LOT OPERATORS VERSUS ACTUAL BUSINESSES FOR BRINGING
THINGS INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY
WANT.
AND THEN SECOND, THERE DOESN'T REALLY SEEM TO BE ANY
ENFORCEMENT LANGUAGE IN THIS CODE.
AS YOU GUYS I'M SURE ALL KNOW BY THIS TIME, ONE OF THE
PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH THESE PARKING LOT CODE IS THAT
THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO ENFORCE THE CODE.
SO WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE SOME PRETTY CLEAR ENFORCEMENT

LANGUAGE FROM THE CITY SO THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH
THE EFFORT OF MAKING THESE UPDATES, WHICH ARE GREAT, BUT IF
THERE'S NO WAY TO ENFORCE THEM, WHAT IS THE POINT?
JUST WANTED TO POINT ALL OF THAT OUT.
AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE CITY STAFF GO BACK TO THE
DRAWING BOARD COMPLETELY, BUT I THINK WE'RE 80% OF THE WAY
THERE, BUT THERE'S JUST A FEW THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC IS
REALLY QUESTIONING.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
THANK YOU.
10:45:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS DAVID BAILEY ON?
MR. DAVID BAILEY.
IF YOU COULD UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:45:40AM >> I DID UNMUTE MYSELF, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.
10:45:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
GO AHEAD.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
10:45:46AM >> DAVID BAILEY.
I LIVE IN HISTORIC YBOR CITY, ALSO SPEAKING TODAY TO ADDRESS
ITEM 85 ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
AS STEPHANIE JUST MENTIONED, I APPLAUD THE PROGRESS THAT
STAFF HAS MADE ON THE TOPICS OF PARKING LOT SECURITY, ANNUAL
OPERATION PLANS, AND RESTRICTIONS FOR FUTURE PARKING LOTS IN
OUR HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT SAID, I DO WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO SOME SERIOUS
CONCERNS THAT STEPHANIE ALLUDED TO.
SO THE FIRST ONE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CLOCK.
IT APPEARS STAFF IS RE-SETTING THE CLOCK FOR NONCONFORMING
PARKING LOTS IN YBOR.
IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, THE CODE WAS CHANGED IN 2010
REQUIRING LOTS TO COMPLY WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF THE CODE
CHANGE, AND THEY HAVE NOT DONE SO FOR 14 YEARS.
STAFF, IN MY OPINION, IS IGNORING THE CODE'S DIRECTION FOR
NONCONFORMING LOTS AND ALLOWING THEIR CONTINUED USE.
MAJOR ISSUE.
SECOND, AS STEPHANIE SAID, A LACK OF ENFORCEMENT LANGUAGE.
NOWHERE IN THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE IS THERE ANY ENFORCEMENT
LANGUAGE.
SO OPERATORS HAVEN'T COMPLIED FOR 14 YEARS, WHY WOULD THE --
WHY WOULD THEY ASSUME THEY ARE GOING TO COMPLY IN THE
FUTURE?
THE CODE NEEDS TO BE MUCH MORE SPECIFIC ON DAILY FINES OR
CLOSING LOTS THAT REFUSE TO COMPLY.
LASTLY, I MUST BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION, AND IT IS NEAR
AND DEAR TO MY HEART BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HISTORIC
PRESERVATION STAFF VERY WELL, THAT THEY HAVE BEEN
RUBBER-STAMPING PARKING LOT PLANS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THE
AUTHORITY TO DO WITHOUT PUBLIC NOTICE AND WITHOUT A PUBLIC
HEARING.

THIS RUBBER-STAMPING DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS STANDARDS EXPLICIT
IN THE CODE.
IT CIRCUMVENTS DUE PROCESS REQUIRED BY THE CODE, AND THIS IS
A VERY SERIOUS BREACH OF PUBLIC TRUST FOR HISTORIC YBOR AND
IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO.
TAMPA ONLY HAS ONE NATIONAL HISTORIC LANDMARK DISTRICT AND
OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN WAITING DECADES, DECADES FOR THE
CITY TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE DONE BY THESE NONCONFORMING
PARKING LOTS.
THESE LOTS ARE A MASSIVE DRAIN ON OUR TAX BASE.
THEY BRING VIOLENT CRIME, NOISE, TRASH TO OUR DOORSTEPS.
ASK YOURSELF THIS, WOULD YOU WANT THIS NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE?
THIS IS A PLAGUE ON YBOR CITY.
IN CLOSING, I WOULD REALLY ASK CITY STAFF TO DO A BETTER JOB
OF COMMUNICATING AND WORKING WITH HISTORIC YBOR NEIGHBORHOOD
CIVIC ASSOCIATION AND CLOSE THE GAPS THAT ENABLE PARKING
OPERATORS TO DAMAGE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
PLEASE STAND UP FOR OUR NATIONAL LANDMARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THANK YOU.
10:48:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH ON?
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:48:34AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH, WITH THE WEST TAMPA CDC.
TODAY I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE WEST TAMPA CDC, REDUCING

GENTRIFICATION, INCREASING PUBLIC SAFETY, AND BUILDING
WEALTH.
THE VEHICLE THAT WE USE IS KNOWN AS A SOCIAL CAPITALISM
MODEL THAT COMBINES MARKET BASED PRINCIPLES WITH SOCIAL
WELFARE POLICIES THAT CONNECT MARGINALIZED RESIDENTS TO
WEALTH AND INCOME.
WE USE A THREE PRONGED APPROACH.
THE FIRST IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE HAVE OUR HOME-BASED
E-COMMERCE INITIATIVE THAT CREATES WEALTH FOR LIMITED INCOME
AND THOSE WITH CRIMINAL RECORDS USING ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE.
THE SECOND COMPONENT MOVES LIMITED INCOME RESIDENTS FROM
CONSUMERS AND RESIDENTS BY EQUIPPING THEM WITH THE TOOLS TO
INVEST WITH LITTLE MONEY.
THE NEXT COMPONENT IS SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT, REDUCING THE
SCHOOL TO PRISON HEADCOUNT BY CREATING ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE HARD CORE YOUTH AS WELL AS THE --
YOUTH AND, FINALLY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
HOW DO WE DO THIS?
WE USE WHAT IS KNOWN AS SUSTAINABLE FINANCIAL MODEL.
THIS IS A COMBINATION OF EARNED INCOME, CHARITABLE
CONTRIBUTIONS, AND PUBLIC SECTOR SUBSIDIES.
EARNED INCOME IS USED TO PURSUE SOCIAL OBJECTIVES BY
SUBSTANTIALLY SEEKING BOTH FINANCIAL AND SOCIAL RETURN ON

INVESTMENT.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE KEEP MONEY IN THE COMMUNITY.
BENEFITS.
TO GOVERNMENT, IT IS AN INCREASE IN TAX BASE IN TERMS OF THE
BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE GOING TO CREATE.
IT REDUCES RISK TO INVESTORS AS WELL AS LENDERS.
IT ALSO REDUCES RESOURCES TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR
RESIDENTS.
WE'RE SAYING THIS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE PART OF BOTH THE
BENEFIT COMMUNITY COMMITTEE AS WELL AS PROPOSED RESOLUTION
568 BECAUSE WHAT WE BRING TO THE TABLE IS THE ABILITY TO
LEVERAGE MONEY THAT THE CITY CANNOT LEVERAGE.
WE WATCH AROUND THE COUNTRY BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS WITH NO
PAID STAFF, NO MONEY, AND NO PRINCIPAL OFFICE.
WE'RE DOING THIS WITH DIFFERENT PARTNERS FROM THE
PUBLIC-PRIVATE RELATIONSHIP.
WHAT WE BRING TO THE TABLE IS THE ABILITY TO LEVERAGE FUNDS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:51:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE REGISTERED THAT'S ON?
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:51:16AM >>BILL CARLSON:
BASED ON THE FEEDBACK JUST NOW, I THINK WE
SHOULD CONTINUE ITEM 85 FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
10:51:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
85.
10:51:25AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THAT IS THE ONE ABOUT THE PARKING.

YOU MAY WANT TO GET STAFF TO WEIGH IN ON IT.
10:51:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S GIVE THEM A CHANCE -- WE'LL BRING
IT UP.
10:51:40AM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU.
10:51:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU ARE THE LAST PUBLIC SPEAKER.
10:51:48AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCIL.
HAPPY TO SEE YOU THIS MORNING.
LINDA SAUL-SENA, 157 BISCAYNE.
I'M HERE TO COMMENT ON THREE THINGS.
THE PARKING IN YBOR.
I AM HERE AS A HISTORICAL MARKER.
LET ME SAY WE WERE WORKING ON THIS 15 YEARS AGO AND THERE
WERE LOTS OF EXCUSES WHY THESE LOTS WERE TEMPORARY AND
DIDN'T REQUIRE REGULATION AND LANDSCAPING.
SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT ISSUE.
SECONDLY, IN TODAY'S CREATIVE LOAFING THERE IS A LARGE
ARTICLE ON TREES AND THE CITY'S TREE CANOPY.
AND WE'RE LOSING IT.
3% CITYWIDE, 6% IN SOUTH TAMPA.
I ENCOURAGE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL AS YOU MOVE AHEAD IN
DEVELOPING THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, TO INCREASE FUNDING FOR
PARKS AND RECREATION BECAUSE THEY HAVE INADEQUATE STAFF TO
DO ALL THE MAINTENANCE THAT IS REQUIRED TO PROTECT OUR
BEAUTIFUL TREE CANOPY.
LASTLY, I APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING TO GO TO A DESIGN WEEK EVENT

IN VM YBOR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I WAS HERE TO SPEAK ON THE
PUBLIC HEARING ON THE LIBRARY AND I REPRESENT THE TAMPA
CENTER FOR ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN.
WE SUPPORT THIS VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU ALL FOR CONSIDERING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:53:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE.
10:53:08AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
I MOVE ITEMS 6 THROUGH 14.
10:53:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
VIERA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
10:53:20AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FOR PARKS, RECREATION AND CULTURE
COMMITTEE, MOVE ITEMS 15 THROUGH 21.
10:53:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON, SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
10:53:38AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE SEVERAL THAT I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF
FROM TODAY.

10:53:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS IT IN THIS COMMITTEE?
GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:53:44AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'LL SUBMIT THE FORM LATER, BUT MY FIRM
WORKS WITH A COMPANY RELATED TO THIS.
ALTHOUGH MY FIRM DOES NOT WORK ON ANY PROJECTS RELATED TO
THE CITY OF TAMPA, IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I'LL RECUSE
MYSELF.
10:53:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE'LL DO A SEPARATE VOTE ON ITEM NUMBER
22.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:54:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEMS 23, 24, 25, AND 27.
10:54:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HURTAK WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
A SEPARATE VOTE -- DID HE HAVE TO STEP OUT?
NO.
10:54:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MOVE ITEM 22.
10:54:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HURTAK ON ITEM NUMBER 22 WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:54:33AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:54:34AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:54:37AM >> MIRANDA?

CARLSON?
HURTAK?
10:54:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:54:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:54:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:54:42AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
ABSTAINING AND MIRANDA ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:54:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VERY GOOD.
ITEM 28 THROUGH 35, COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
10:54:54AM >>LUIS VIERA:
SO MOVED.
10:54:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ALL RIGHT.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, EVERYTHING EXCEPT 44, IS THAT
CORRECT?
10:55:09AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH.
I NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM 44 FOR THE SAME REASONS, ALTHOUGH MY
FIRM DOES NOT WORK WITH ANY PROJECTS RELATED TO THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I'LL RECUSE MYSELF BECAUSE WE
HAVE A CLIENT THAT'S DISTANTLY AFFILIATED WITH THIS.
I MOVE 36, 37 -- SORRY, 36 THROUGH 43.

10:55:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
NOW FOR A SEPARATE VOTE, COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, WOULD YOU
MIND READING 44?
10:55:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I THOUGHT THIS WAS BEING PULLED.
10:55:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO.
IT'S A SEPARATE VOTE.
10:55:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE ITEM 44.
10:55:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN TO MOVE JUST 44.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:55:59AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HE MOVED IT AND SECONDED IT.
10:56:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CLENDENIN AND THEN MIRANDA.
DID I SAY CLENDENIN TWICE?
10:56:05AM >> YES.
10:56:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SORRY.
CLENDENIN MADE THE MOTION.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA DID THE SECOND.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
10:56:14AM >> CARLSON?
HURTAK?

10:56:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
10:56:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
10:56:17AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
10:56:18AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
10:56:19AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
10:56:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
10:56:22AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
ABSTAINING.
10:56:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VERY GOOD.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, 44 -- 45 THROUGH 54.
WAIT, WAIT.
45 THROUGH 52 BECAUSE WE PULLED 53 AND 54.
10:56:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I MOVE ITEMS 45 THROUGH 52.
10:56:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
53 AND 54 WILL BE HEARD LATER ON UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
WE'LL GO BACK TO THOSE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND SETTING ITEM 55 FOR
THE PUBLIC HEARING?
10:56:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM 55 FOR PUBLIC HEARING, MR. CHAIRMAN.
TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
10:57:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT --

10:57:09AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU ARE SETTING IT.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
WE'RE GOING TO BREAK FOR LUNCH AT 12:00.
I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT.
AT THIS TIME, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN ALL THE PUBLIC
HEARINGS?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE OPEN.
THE FIRST FEW ARE NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
SO ITEM NUMBER 56 AND 57, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON IS GOING TO
BE ABSTAINING FROM.
ALSO 58.
10:57:47AM >>BILL CARLSON:
FOR THE SAME REASONS 56, 57, 58, MY BUSINESS
DOES NOT DO ANY BUSINESS RELATED TO THE CITY OF TAMPA,
HOWEVER WE HAVE A CLIENT THAT IS DISTANTLY RELATED TO THIS,
SO OUT OF ABUNDANCE CAUTION RECUSE MYSELF ON 56, 57, 58.
10:58:04AM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
JUST A REMINDER THAT NUMBER 58 IS, IN FACT,
TWO VOTES.
ONE ON THE SECOND READING OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE OTHER IS

ON THE RESOLUTION.
10:58:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 56 IS A SECOND READING.
WHO IS HERE TO PRESENT ON THAT?
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ONLINE FOR THAT?
GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:58:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
DANNY COLLINS WITH YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
PRESENTING SECOND READING FOR TA/CPA 23-05, MAP AMENDMENT
PERTAINING TO MULTIPLE PARCELS LOCATED BETWEEN EAST ROSS
AVENUE AND EAST 7TH AVENUE IN THE TAMPA HEIGHTS URBAN
VILLAGE.
THIS REQUEST IS TO CHANGE APPROXIMATELY 5.22 ACRES FROM
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 TO URBAN MIXED USE 60.
COUNCIL VOTED TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST AT YOUR HEARING ON
MARCH 21st AND IS BACK BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND READING
AND CONSIDERATION.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:59:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR THIS?
IF NOT, YES, SIR, MR. HUDSON.

10:59:08AM >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE, FOR THE RECORD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
WE HAVE NO PRESENTATION.
10:59:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 56?
THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS.
ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK?
NO.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO CLOSE?
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, 56.
10:59:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
56, FILE TA/CPA 23-05, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN,
FUTURE LAND USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE
PROPERTY LOCATED AT 110 EAST OAK AVENUE, 2005 NORTH TAMPA
STREET, 1813 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET, 1708 FLORIDA AVENUE, 106
PALM AVENUE AND FOLIO NUMBER 192,338.0000, FROM COMMUNITY
COMMERCIAL-35, COMMA, SLASH, CC-35, TO URBAN AND FOLIO
NUMBER 192,338.0000, FROM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35, CC-35 TO
URBAN MIXED USE 60, UMU-60, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL

ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY;
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
CONTINUED FROM JUNE 22, 2023, OCTOBER 12 -- IT WENT ON AND
ON.
11:00:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:01:07AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
ABSTAINING FROM VOTE.
11:01:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
LET'S GO WITH ITEM NUMBER 57.
11:01:19AM >>ROSS SAMONS:
ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
VAC-23-20 FOR SECOND READING.
PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST TO VACATE A PORTION OF FRANKLIN
STREET AND ALLEY NORTH OF OAK AVENUE, SOUTH OF PALM AVENUE,
EAST OF TAMPA STREET AND WEST OF FLORIDA AVENUE.
AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:01:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
REAL QUICK, WE COVERED ALREADY ITEM 44, CORRECT, ON THAT
SEPARATE VOTE?
11:01:43AM >> YES.
11:01:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
GO AHEAD, MR. HUDSON.
11:01:48AM >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE, FOR THE RECORD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

WE HAVE NO PRESENTATION.
11:01:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
57?
WE HAVE NOBODY REGISTERED.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
11:02:05AM >>LUIS VIERA:
I MOVE AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, VACATING CLOSING, DISCONTINUING AND ABANDONING ALL
RIGHTS-OF-WAY, INCLUDING ALLEYWAYS WITHIN THE BLOCK LOCATED
NORTH OF OAK AVENUE, SOUTH OF TALK AVENUE, EAST OF TAMPA
STREET AND WEST OF FLORIDA AVENUE, WITHIN THE PLAT OF
HIGHLAND PARK 1st ADDITION SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA AS MORE FULLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION 2 HEREOF SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS, CONDITIONS
AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH HEREIN,
PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR VIOLATIONS,
PROVIDING FOR CONDITIONS PRECEDENT, DEFINITIONS,
INTERPRETATIONS, AND REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR
SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

11:02:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:02:52AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
ABSTAINING.
11:02:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR QUASI-JUDICIAL PUBLIC HEARINGS.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FROM
58 TO 66, PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE'LL
SWEAR YOU IN.
[OATH ADMINISTERED]
ITEM 58.
11:03:26AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
COUNCIL, ITEM 58 IS BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING FOR SECOND
READING.
THIS IS REZ-23-82.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 110 EAST OAK AVENUE,
2005 NORTH TAMPA STREET, 1813 NORTH FRANKLIN STREET, 1708,
1905 AND 1909 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE, 106 EAST PALM AVENUE AND
FOAL KNOW NUMBER 192338-0000.
REQUEST TO REZONE FROM CICG AND RM 24 TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT.
THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR THE USES OF STOREFRONT RESIDENTIAL, ALL

COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES ON-SITE AND THE SITE PLAN REQUIRED
MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:04:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 58?
YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:04:27AM >> TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE, FOR THE RECORD.
APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
WE MADE ALL REQUESTED CHANGES.
THANKS.
11:04:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
SEEING NONE, ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ON
58?
WE HAVE NOBODY REGISTERED.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING 58?
11:04:52AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU.
GOOD MORNING.
FILE REZ-23-82, AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
READING CONSIDERATION.

AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
110 EAST OAK AVENUE, 2005 NORTH TAMPA STREET, 1813 NORTH
FRANKLIN STREET, 1708, 1905, AND 1909 NORTH FLORIDA AVENUE,
106 EAST PALM AVENUE AND FOLIO NUMBER 192338-0000 IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CI, COMMERCIAL
INTENSIVE, CG, COMMERCIAL GENERALLY, AND RM-24, RESIDENTIAL,
MULTIFAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, STOREFRONT
RESIDENTIAL/COMMERCIAL ALL COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES, RETAIL
SALES, SHOPPER'S GOODS, CLUB, RECREATIONAL FACILITY
COMMERCIAL, HOTEL, BUSINESS/PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND
COMMERCIAL PARKING, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:05:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:06:03AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA VOTING NO AND CARLSON
ABSTAINING FROM VOTE.
11:06:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, WOULD YOU LIKE
TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
11:06:12AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION, SIR.
11:06:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?

AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
RESOLUTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.
11:06:28AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH CARLSON
ABSTAINING FROM VOTE.
11:06:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM 59.
11:06:35AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 59 IS REZ-23-90.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4075 HENDERSON
BOULEVARD.
THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE PROPERTY FROM CG TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR A RESTAURANT USE.
THIS REQUEST IS A SITE PLAN CONTROLLED PD PLAN.
THERE WERE NO SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS REQUIRED TO BE MADE,
BUT WE DO HAVE SITE PLAN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE
CLERK. I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:07:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO.
APPLICANT FOR 59.
PLEASE COME UP.
11:07:14AM >> SCOTT STIGALL ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
11:07:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
NUMBER 59?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, WOULD YOU MIND READING 59.
11:07:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVE REZ 23-90, ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR
SECOND READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4075 HENDERSON BOULEVARD IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CG, COMMERCIAL
GENERAL, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESTAURANT, PROVIDING
AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:07:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CLENDENIN WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD.
GO AHEAD NOW.
WE HAD TO RESET.
11:08:09AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:08:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 60.
11:08:14AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 60 IS REZ 23-105.
THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 100 AND 204 NORTH
WESTSHORE, 253 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, 298 AND 347 WESTSHORE
PLAZA.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM PD TO PD.
THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR RETAIL SALES RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
HOTEL, MOTEL AND ALL CG USES ON-SITE.
THE SITE PLAN REQUIRES MODIFICATIONS TO BE MADE BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:08:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:08:58AM >> TRUETT GARDNER, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
WE HAD THREE ITEMS COMING OUT OF THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING
THAT I WANTED TO REPORT ON.
ONE, REVISION SHEET.
THANK LaCHONE AND HER TEAM.
REVISIONS WERE EXTENSIVE BUT THEY HAVE ALL BEEN MADE.
SECONDLY, COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON DIRECTED US TO REACH OUT TO
CARVER CITY WHICH WE DID.
LISA CALLAHAN IS SPEAK.

BOOK WITH CAMPBELL, HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH HER AND
ACTUALLY GOING TO GO TO THEIR MEETING THIS SUMMER, WHICH
WILL BE IN PERSON.
SO THAT CALL WAS MADE AND MEETING HAPPENED VIA ZOOM.
I WANTED TO REPORT BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
THIRD, I HAD A DELIGHTFUL TIME WORKING WITH MILLER WITH
BEACH PARK ON NOTE 34 DEALING WITH THE DECEL LANES.
WE CAME UP WITH LANGUAGE AND MODIFIED THAT NOTE.
THEY ARE SATISFIED WITH THAT.
I DID WANT TO REPORT TWO THINGS.
I THINK MARK IS ON HIS WAY.
MIGHT NOT MAKE IT ON TIME.
TWO THINGS I TOLD HIM I WOULD REPORT.
ONE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH BEACH PARK ON THIS
EFFORT.
SECONDLY, MARK PICKED UP THE SITE PLAN WHERE THE DECEL LANES
ARE SHOWN USES THE WORD POTENTIAL.
I EXPLAINED TO HIM THE REASON WHY THAT WORD IS POTENTIAL IS
NOT THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AND WE'RE TRYING TO
SHIRK OUR RESPONSIBILITY, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AND D.O.T. TO GET APPROVED AND WE DON'T
KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THOSE DIMENSIONS ARE GOING TO BE.
AS A RESULT, KIMLEY-HORN PUT POTENTIAL ON THE SITE PLAN, BUT
I BELIEVE THE NOTE COVERS THAT AND THEY ARE SATISFIED WITH
THAT.

I DID TELL HIM I WOULD STATE THAT ON THE RECORD.
11:10:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
60?
NOBODY REGISTERED.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
YES, MA'AM.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:10:45AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FILE NUMBER REZ 23-105, ORDINANCE BEING
PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE
REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 100 AND 204
NORTH WESTSHORE, 253 WESTSHORE BOULEVARD, AND 298 AND 347
WESTSHORE PLAZA, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT TO PD PLANNED
DEVELOPMENT RETAIL SALES, COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES, OFFICE,
BUSINESS OR PROFESSIONAL, OFFICE, MEDICAL, RESIDENTIAL,
MULTIFAMILY, HOTEL OR MOTEL, RESTAURANT, RECREATIONAL
FACILITY, COMMERCIAL, INDOOR, VEHICLE REPAIR, MAJOR AND
MINOR, COLLEGE AND SCHOOL, PARKING OFF-STREET PRINCIPAL USE,

NURSING, CONVALESCENT AND EXTENDED CARE FACILITY, CLINIC,
HOSPITAL, PLACE OF ASSEMBLY, RESTAURANT, DRIVE-IN.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:11:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HURTAK AND SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:12:01AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:12:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 61.
11:12:14AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND COUNCIL.
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 61 IS FILE REZ 23-116.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 205 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RM 16 TO RM 18.
THIS IS A EUCLIDEAN REQUEST, SO NO SITE PLAN IS ASSOCIATED
WITH THIS REQUEST.
AND THE ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:12:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:12:42AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
STEVE MICHELINI HERE ON BEHALF OF THE
PETITIONER.
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL.
IT IS EUCLIDEAN REZONING, SO THERE ARE NO WAIVERS OR PD SITE
PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

11:12:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM
61?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE ANY OPPOSED?
PLEASE READ IT.
11:13:11AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM 61, FILE
REZ-23-116, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
CONSIDERATION.
AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
205 NORTH ALBANY AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO
RM-18, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
DATE.
11:13:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:13:43AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:13:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:13:46AM >>STEVE MICHELINI:
THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:13:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 62.
11:13:50AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

ITEM 62 IS REZ-24-01.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 2302 AND 2304 NORTH BOULEVARD.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS-60 TO PD,
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, TO ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
SEMI DETACHED USES ON-SITE.
THE SITE PLAN HAS BEEN MODIFIED WITH CHANGES REQUIRED
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:14:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO.
ALL RIGHT, DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR 62?
11:14:26AM >> ANGELA HALBER WITH HILL WARD HENDERSON.
101 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD.
HERE FOR THE PETITIONER IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, WE'RE HAPPY
TO RESPOND.
11:14:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
62?
I SEE NO ONE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, WOULD YOU MIND READING ITEM 62?

11:14:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
-- SECOND READING CONSIDERATION,
ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2302,
2304 NORTH BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
CLASSIFICATION RS 60, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD,
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:15:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:15:27AM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:15:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM 63.
11:15:33AM >>LaCHONE DOCK:
LaCHONE DOCK, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
ITEM 63 IS FILE REZ-24-07.
THIS IS FOR THE PROPERTY AT 1101 WEST SLIGH AVENUE.
THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY FROM RS 50 TO PD,
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS FOR COMMERCIAL OFF-STREET PARKING FOR ZOO TAMPA.
SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
FIRST AND SECOND READING.
THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
THE PLAN HAS BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:16:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?

IS THERE AN APPLICANT HERE FOR 63?
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:16:06AM >> GOOD MORNING.
ANDREW PUPKY WITH ENVISION ADVISOR, REPRESENTING THE
PETITIONER ZOO TAMPA.
11:16:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
63?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, 63.
11:16:24AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
BY THE WAY, NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS HEARING, I WILL SAY IT
WAS ZOO TAMPA SPECIAL NEEDS INTERNSHIP THAT INSPIRED -- WE
SAW THIS MORNING.
WAY TO GO ZOO TAMPA.
YOU DO GREAT WORK.
MOVE ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING
CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL
VICINITY OF 1101 WEST SLIGH AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RS 50, RESIDENTIAL,
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL

OFF-STREET PARKING, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:16:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, SECOND
FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:17:02AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:17:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HAVE A NICE DAY.
ITEM NUMBER 64.
MR. FERNANDEZ.
11:17:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
DENNIS FERNANDEZ, ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC
PRESERVATION MANAGER.
VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE THIS MORNING ON THE PROPOSED
LANDMARK DESIGNATION OF THE JOHN F. GERMANY LIBRARY, ICONIC
BUILDING IN OUR DOWNTOWN LANDSCAPE.
BEFORE WE BEGIN THE PRESENTATION, I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT
AND JUST THANK THE VARIOUS COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS WHO HAVE
REALLY SUPPORTED THIS.
THIS WAS A COMMUNITY-DRIVEN EFFORT, BEGINNING WITH AMY
ESPINOSA AND ELENA KETCHUM WHO REALLY BROUGHT THIS PROPERTY
TO THE FOREGROUND FOR CONSIDERATION AND DESIGNATION.
THE JENNEWEIN FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF THE FAMILY ALL SUPPORTED
US AND PROVIDED STANCE IN GETTING THE DESIGNATION BEFORE YOU
TODAY.
ALSO, OUR THANKS TO MAYOR CASTOR.

THIS IS A CITY-OWNED PROPERTY AND HER COMMITMENT TO
PRESERVING THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT
IN OUR CITY.
WITH THAT, I WANT TO INTRODUCE A FRESH FACE TO PRESERVATION.
HEATHER BONDS, NEWER MEMBER TO OUR STAFF WHO WILL RUN YOU
THROUGH THE ELIGIBILITY AND THE RECOMMENDATION THIS MORNING.
THANK YOU.
11:18:24AM >> GOOD MORNING.
I AM HEATHER BONDS, HISTORIC PRESERVATION SPECIALIST.
I AM PRESENTING TODAY ON THE JOHN F. GERMANY LIBRARY AND ITS
CRITERIA FOR NOMINATION OF A LOCAL LANDMARK.
11:18:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
GO AHEAD.
11:18:56AM >> THE APPLICATION WAS INITIATED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA AND
AUTHORIZED BY THE MAYOR ON SEPTEMBER 15th, 2023.
IT HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
AND THEY FOUND THAT IT MEETS THE CRITERIA OF CHAPTER 27-257.
LOCAL DESIGNATION IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL TO PROMOTE AND
PRESERVE TAMPA'S UNIQUE PHYSICAL HISTORY.
AND IT PROVIDES A REVIEW PROCESS FOR ANY CHANGES TO THE
LANDMARK.
THE LIBRARY IS LOCATED BETWEEN WEST TAYLOR STREET AND WEST
CASS STREET FACING NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
THE AUDITORIUM IS DIRECTLY TO THE REAR AND THE HILLSBOROUGH
RIVER IS TO THE WEST.

THIS PICTURE FROM 1921, WHICH LOOKS EAST IN THIS SECTION OF
THE 1915 SANBORN MAP SHOW THE HISTORIC BLOCK OF THE EXISTING
LIBRARY OUTLINED -- WAS OUTLINED IN RED.
THE RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS THAT MADE UP THE BLOCK ARE SHOWN
ON THE SANBORN MAP WHICH INDICATES THE BLOCK WAS MADE OF
WOOD-FRAME, ONE-STORY STRUCTURES WITH OPEN FRONT PORCHES.
THE PICTURE IN THE SANBORN MAP FROM THE PICTURE IT IS
DETERMINED THAT THIS BLOCK IS COMPLETELY RESIDENTIAL,
SANDWICHED BETWEEN THE LUMBERYARD AND THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER
TO THE WEST AND THE EMERGING CITY TO THE EAST.
ACCORDING TO THE 1915 POLK CITY DIRECTORY, THE HOMES ALONG
ASHLEY DRIVE, THE THREE TWO-STORY BUILDINGS RIGHT IN FRONT
OF THE WHITE BUILDING, THEY WERE OWNED BY BLACK RESIDENTS.
902 ASHLEY BY MARY JAMES A WIDOWED COOK, 904 ASHLEY BY SAM
EWELL EDWARDS, A PORTER AND 908 ASHLEY BY MARIA C. MURRAY, A
COOK.
TAMPA'S FIRST LIBRARY CAME BY WAY OF THE CARNEGIE FOUNDATION
WHO BESTOWED A GRANT TO BUILD A LIBRARY IN 1912.
AS THE CITY GREW, INDIVIDUAL LIBRARY BRANCHES OPENED TO
SERVE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY.
A NEED FOR A NEW CENTRAL LIBRARY BECAME APPARENT.
FIRST A NEW LOCATION NEEDED TO BE SELECTED.
AS AREA EVOLVED AWAY FROM INDUSTRIAL USES, THE CITY LOOKED
TO HIGHLIGHT THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER AS A UNIQUE ASSET WITHIN
THE CITY.

A RIVERFRONT URBAN RENEWAL PROJECT WAS INITIATED TO
MODERNIZE DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE LIBRARY.
LIBRARY LOCATE WAS SELECTED TO CONNECT THE NORTHERN END OF
THE PLANNED RIVERFRONT COMPLEX TO SURROUNDING SHOPPING,
TRANSPORTATION AND PARKING.
AS THE FIRST STRUCTURED PLANNED AS PART OF THE RIVERFRONT
URBAN RENEWAL PROJECT, THE LIBRARY IS A PHYSICAL REMINDER
HOW TAMPA HAS PLACED IMPORTANCE ON INCORPORATING LOCAL
CULTURE INTO FUTURE LAND PLANNING.
RAISING MONEY TO BUILD THE LIBRARY WAS ANOTHER CONCERN.
IN 1960, LOCAL JUDGE JOHN GERMANY WAS ELECTED AS PRESIDENT
OF FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, A GROUP CHARGED TO PLAN THE
DEVELOPMENT AND THE FUNDING OF THE LIBRARY.
THE COMMITTEE WAS COMPRISED OF OTHER CIVIC LEADERS IN TAMPA
AND SUPPORTED BY THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
MR. GERMANY SPEARHEADED A FUNDING SOURCE BY PROPOSING A
CIGARETTE TAX BOND ISSUE, THE TOTAL CONSTRUCTION COST WAS
$3.2 MILLION, INCLUDING GRANT AND TAXED MONEY.
IT OPENED ON APRIL 21st, 1968.
TAMPA HAD ALSO RECEIVED A GRANT TO UPGRADE LIBRARY TRAINING,
ADD SPECIALIZED SECTIONS AND INCREASE PAY SCALES.
THE NEW TAMPA PUBLIC LIBRARY OPENED AS THE FIRST FULLY
INTEGRATED LIBRARY SERVING ALL OF TAMPA'S CITIZENS
REGARDLESS OF RACE.
IT OFFERED RESOURCES AND PROGRAMS TARGETED TO ALL RACES,

GENDERS, AND AGES.
FOR EXAMPLE, TO ENCOURAGE TEENS TO VISIT THE LIBRARY, THE
YOUTH SERVICES DEPARTMENT SPONSORED FRIDAY NIGHT ROCK
CONCERTS, THE SUMMER OF 1969 SERIES FEATURED LOCAL BANDS AND
DEEJAYS ATTRACTING UP TO 1500 LOCAL TEENS PER CONCERT.
TWO FIRMS WERE SELECTED TO DESIGN THE LIBRARY.
McLANE, RANON, McINTOSH AND McELVY AND JENNEWEIN.
BASED IN TAMPA, DESIGNED MANY STRUCTURES IN TAMPA AND
THROUGHOUT FLORIDA IN A MODERN STYLE SIMILAR TO THE STYLING
THEY EMPLOYED ON THE TAMPA PUBLIC LIBRARY WITH LARGE
OVERHANGS AND CANTILEVERED PROJECTIONS AND HEAVY CONCRETE
PANELS.
SIMILAR TO THE LIBRARY THE STYLING TYPIFIES MID CENTURY
ARCHITECTURE MOVEMENT AND PHYSICAL APPEARANCE AND RAW
UTILITARIAN FEEL OF EACH STRUCTURE.
THE LIBRARY IS A PRISTINE EXAMPLE OF MID CENTURY STYLE IN
TAMPA WITH NOTABLE ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS INCLUDING LARGE
CONCRETE PILLARS, WIDE ARCADE, VERTICAL TRAVERTINE PANELS,
GLASS MULTISTORY PANELS AND HONEYCOMB EXTERIOR FEATURE.
IT IS A TYPICAL MID CENTURY DESIGN COMPONENT.
SEVERAL STYLING SUBSTYLES WITHIN MID CENTURY DESIGNS
DESCRIBED AS BRUTALISTIC, THE SUBSTYLE LACKS DECORATION IN
FAVOR OF VISUAL OBVIOUS MATERIALS.
CONCRETE IS THE MOST COMMON MATERIAL USED IN THIS
ARCHITECTURE.

AS ONE OF THE STRONGEST BUILDING MATERIALS IT CAN UPHOLD
AGAINST STREAM WEATHER WHICH IS IDEAL FOR STRUCTURES
PRESERVING ARCHIVAL MATERIALS.
THE EXTERIOR PANELS ARE ROMAN TRAVERTINE USED FOR OVER 2500
YEARS IN ITALY FOR GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC BUILDINGS.
HONEYCOMB WHICH TOPS THE LIBRARY PROVIDES ARCHITECTURAL
INTEREST WHILE PROVIDING A PROTECTIVE SUN AND HEAT BARRIER
TO THE ARCHIVE COLLECTION ON THE FOURTH FLOOR.
IT BREAKS UP THE STRONG VISUAL IMPACT OF CONCRETE PANELS
BLOW.
HEXAGON ADDS GEOMETRIC ELEMENT.
ALSO VISUALLY MARRIES THE AUDITORIUM AND LIBRARY BUILDINGS
WITH THE COMMON GEOMETRIC ELEMENT.
GUS PARAS AND ANGEL OLIVA, JUNIOR, ASSOCIATE ARCHITECTS WITH
MCELVY AND JENNEWEIN, CODESIGNED THE AUDITORIUM WITH SMALL
BUT VISUALLY SIGNIFICANT AREA TO WORK WITH, THEY WANTED THE
AUDITORIUM TO HAVE AN INDEPENDENT BUT COMPLEMENTARY DESIGN
TO THE LIBRARY.
THE HONEYCOMB FEATURE WAS UTILIZED TO CONNECT THE TWO
STRUCTURES WHILE ALLOWING NATURAL LIGHT INTO THE OTHERWISE
WINDOWLESS AUDITORIUM.
TROPICANA NIGHTCLUB IN HAVANA SERVED AS INSPIRATION FOR THE
AUDITORIUM'S MULTI-OVAL DESIGN.
IT WAS DESIGNED BY MAX BORGES, JUNIOR, THE MOST WELL-KNOWN
ARCHITECT OF CUBAN MODERNIST ARCHITECTURE.

BORGES WORKED WITH FELIX CANDELA, A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER FROM
MEXICO, WHO SPECIALIZED IN LIGHT-WEIGHT, CONCRETE PARABOLIC
DESIGNS USED IN THE TROPICANA CLUB AND CLUB NAUTICO IN CUBA.
ON NOVEMBER 1st, 1999, THE TAMPA PUBLIC LIBRARY WAS
RENAMED TO HONOR JOHN F. GERMANY, LONGTIME CIVIC LEADER IN
TAMPA, HE HELPED SECURE THE ORIGINAL FUNDING FOR THE MODERN
LIBRARY IN THE 1960s.
HE SERVED AS COMBAT ARMY TANK COMMANDER IN WORLD WAR II,
ATTENDED THE UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA AND RECEIVED LAW DEGREE
FROM HARVARD LAW SCHOOL.
PRACTICED LAW IN TAMPA UNTIL APPOINTED CIRCUIT JUDGE.
1966 RETURNED TO PRACTICE LAW AS A PARTNER IN KNIGHT, JONES,
WHITAKER AND GERMANY.
FIRM MERGED WITH ANOTHER FIRM AND HE BECAME FOUNDING PARTNER
TO ONE OF THE NATION'S MOST PRESTIGIOUS LAW FIRMS, HOLLAND
AND KNIGHT.
AS A LOCAL LAWYER, HE AIDED IN LEGISLATION TO ESTABLISH THE
UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
THE APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED BY THE CITY'S HISTORIC
PRESERVATION OFFICE AFTER WE RECEIVED A COMMUNITY PETITION
TO LANDMARK IT.
IT WENT THROUGH THE CODE REQUIRED PROCESS AND HAS BEEN
PUBLICLY NOTICED.
HPC RECOMMENDED THAT CITY COUNCIL ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO
LANDMARK THE LIBRARY AND AUDITORIUM AND PLANNING COMMISSION

FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
STAFF AND THE HPC FOUND PROPOSED LANDMARK NOMINATION IS
CONSISTENT WITH 27-257, PARTICULARLY THAT IT MEETS CRITERIA
AB AND C OF NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES CRITERIA AS
IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH EVENTS THAT HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT
CONTRIBUTION TO THE BROAD PATTERNS OF OUR HISTORY IN THE
AREAS OF COMMUNITY PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, RIVERFRONT
URBAN RENEWAL PROJECT.
IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH LIVES OF PERSONS SIGNIFICANT TO OUR
PAST, JOHN GERMANY.
AND EMBODIES THE DISTINCTIVE CHARACTERISTICS OF TYPE,
PERIOD, OR METHOD OF CONSTRUCTION.
THE AREA OF ARCHITECTURE SPECIFICALLY MID CENTURY
BRUTALISTIC ARCHITECTURE.
STAFF RESPECTFULLY RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE
DESIGNATION OF THE JOHN F. GERMANY PUBLIC LIBRARY AND
AUDITORIUM AS LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK BASED ON MEETING THIS
CRITERIA.
IN CLOSING, I WANT TO THANK THOSE THAT SUPPORTED BRINGING
THIS APPLICATION FORWARD, INCLUDING MAYOR CASTOR, AMY
ESPINOSA, ELENA KETCHUM, AND FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY WHO
ASSISTED IN PROVIDING SOURCE MATERIAL AND PHOTOS.
HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:27:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

I LEARNED A LOT OF NEW THINGS I DIDN'T KNOW.
IT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLACES IN TAMPA.
INTERESTING WHEN YOU SHOWED THE SIGN OF CONSTRUCTION, INSIDE
THE LOBBY, I GUESS IT'S MARBLE, BUT IT'S A MARKER SHOWING
1967, NICK NUCCIO MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS BEING DICK GRECO IN HIS
FIRST TERM WHO BECAME MAYOR WITHIN A FEW MONTHS.
BY THE TIME THE LIBRARY WAS DEDICATED, HE BEAT NUCCIO AND HE
WAS MAYOR.
YOU SAID IT ALL.
IT IS A SIGNIFICANT MID CENTURY MODERN DESIGN.
IT'S ONE OF MANY VARIATIONS.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE IMAGES ARE.
I SAW THEM YEARS AGO.
IT WENT THROUGH VERY DIFFERENT PROPOSALS UNTIL THIS WAS
SELECTED AND CHOSEN.
AGAIN, I'M GLAD THAT WE'RE DOING THIS HISTORIC DESIGNATION.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK, COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA, COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA.
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK.
11:28:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS PRESENTATION.
I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
I THINK THE WHOLE COUNCIL RECEIVED AN INVITATION TO DO AN
ARCHITECTURE TOUR SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.
IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL SATURDAY AFTERNOON.

IT WAS A PERFECT DAY FOR IT.
WE GOT TO SEE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ARCHITECTURAL
SIGNIFICANCE ABOUT THIS BUILDING AND MODERN ARCHITECTURE,
ESPECIALLY THE BRUTALISTIC ONE OF MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITES TYPE
OF ARCHITECTURE.
THIS WAS SUCH AN AMAZING TOUR.
THE WAY THAT THE LIBRARY HAS RETAINED THAT ARCHITECTURAL
STYLE AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON IN THAT LIBRARY IS JUST
ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
I'M ABSOLUTELY THRILLED THAT THIS IS GOING FORWARD AND WE'LL
BE ABLE TO PROTECT AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF TAMPA HISTORY,
ESPECIALLY SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY BUILDINGS IN THIS
PARTICULAR STYLE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
IT'S MORE KNOWN DOWN IN MIAMI, FOR SURE.
I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS ONE.
11:29:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, HENDERSON,
CLENDENIN.
11:29:31AM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GREAT PRESENTATION.
WITH JOHN F. GERMANY, I REMEMBER ONE TIME GOING TO VALENCIA
GARDENS AND SEEING HIM HAVE LUNCH WITH SAM GIBBONS, HIS DEAR
FRIEND.
YOU WENT OVER A LOT OF HIS LIFE FROM PLANT CITY,
WORLD WAR II COMBAT VETERAN, HOLLAND AND KNIGHT.
THERE ARE CERTAIN ATTORNEYS IN THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY BAR

ASSOCIATION WHO ARE LIKE CITIZEN LAWYERS, YOU KNOW WHAT I
MEAN?
AND HE WAS SUCH A CITIZEN LAWYER.
PEOPLE LIKE HIM, DEAR FRIEND SAM GIBBONS, FORMER CONGRESSMAN
JIM DAVIS, SENATOR JOYNER, PEOPLE THAT MAKE A MONUMENTAL
CHANGE AND GERMANY WAS LIKE THAT.
I'M A BIG BOOK GUY.
I THINK THESE THINGS HAVE -- YEAH, BOOKS ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND GREAT PRESENTATION.
11:30:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
11:30:33AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAD THE HOMES?
I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION AND THE
HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE OF EVEN POINTING OUT THE HOMES THAT
WERE NEAR THAT AREA.
RIGHT THERE.
THOSE THREE HOMES.
TWO-STORY HOUSES OWNED BY AFRICAN AMERICANS.
THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, DID IT HAVE A SPECIFIC NAME?
WAS THAT CALLED -- DO YOU KNOW?
I REMEMBER HEARING THAT IT WAS CALLED THE BOTTOM THAT I WAS
LOOKING FOR.
I WAS WONDERING IF THAT AREA WAS CONSIDERED BECAUSE I KNOW
IT CAME ALL THE WAY UP TO WHERE ARMATURE WORKS IS TODAY.
11:31:18AM >> THESE STRUCTURES HERE AT THE BOTTOM, THAT WAS ALL PART OF

THE LUMBERYARD WHICH STRETCHED ACROSS.
I'M SURE A LOT OF THE WORKERS WORKED FOR THE LOCAL
LUMBERYARD AT THE TIME.
11:31:29AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THAT, ESPECIALLY
KNOWING BUILDING A LIBRARY LIKE THIS OF SIGNIFICANCE, WE
INTEGRATED THE POPULATION.
THERE IS A LIBRARY OVER IN TAMPA HEIGHTS AND IT SAYS FREE
LIBRARY.
EVERY TIME I PASS BY IT, I ALWAYS SAY TO MYSELF, AFRICAN
AMERICANS WERE NOT ALLOWED TO GO TO THAT LIBRARY.
THIS IS REALLY NICE TO KNOW THAT THE ONE THAT IS MOST
SIGNIFICANT IN OUR COMMUNITY WAS INTEGRATED RIGHT AWAY.
THE ARCHITECTURE OF THIS LIBRARY HAS STOOD OUT TO ME.
I LOVE VISITING IT.
FOR YOU TO GIVE US THAT INFORMATION, THAT BACKGROUND IS
GREATLY APPRECIATED.
I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
11:32:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON BRINGS UP A
GOOD QUESTION.
MADAM FORTUNE TAYLOR OF MADAM FORTUNE TAYLOR BRIDGE OWNED
ABOUT 30 ACRES OF PROPERTY, WHERE THE STRAZ IS AT, IN THAT
VICINITY.
I WONDER IF THESE WERE HER PROPERTIES.
SHE DIED IN 1906 AND THE PROPERTIES WERE SOLD OFF OVER TIME.

I WONDER IF THIS WAS PART OF THAT.
SOMETHING FOR ME TO RESEARCH.
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:32:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU LEARN SOMETHING EVERY DAY THAT YOU
LIKE BRUTALISTIC ARCHITECTURE.
BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER.
QUESTION, THOUGH, NOT TO THROW DAMP RAGS ON THINGS,
LIBRARIES ARE CHANGING AND EVOLVING WITH NEW TECHNOLOGIES.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT THE LIBRARY OF 20 YEARS FROM NOW IS
GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
WHEN WE DESIGNATE THIS AS HISTORIC, DOES IT TIE OUR HANDS
FOR REDEVELOPMENT, IF WE HAD TO EVOLVE TO DIFFERENT
TECHNOLOGIES OR DIFFERENT WAYS OF PROVIDING THE LIBRARY
SERVICES AT THE LOCATION OR IF WE FELT LIKE THE BEST USE OF
THE PROPERTY IS MAYBE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, REPURPOSING,
DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH IT.
WHAT DOES THIS DESIGNATION DO TO THAT?
11:33:38AM >> THE DESIGNATION PROCESS ADDS A REVIEW PROCESS INTO IT.
SO ANY NOMINATIONS THAT WOULD COME FORWARD OR APPLICATIONS
FOR CHANGES, INCLUDING DEMOLITION, WOULD HAVE TO GO IN FRONT
OF THE HPC OR THE ARC TO REVIEW THOSE CHANGES.
SO THERE IS THAT REVIEW PROCESS THAT WOULD BE MANDATED FOR
ANY CHANGES THAT WOULD COME BEFORE THE -- ABOUT THE LIBRARY.
11:34:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT PROCESS ONLY TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION
THE HISTORIC ASPECT.

THEY DON'T EVER TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ANYTHING ELSE OTHER
THAN THAT, RIGHT?
11:34:10AM >> THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THE CHANGE.
SO THEY WOULD CONSIDER WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND IS IT
APPROPRIATE TO THE SITE.
11:34:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR HISTORIC PURPOSES.
11:34:19AM >> THE LIBRARIES ARE EVOLVING AS WELL.
WHEN I WAS RESEARCHING THIS LIBRARY, THEY OFFER ALL SORTS OF
NEW PROGRAMS.
THEY HAVE THINGS LIKE 3D MODEL MAKERS.
THEY HAVE SEWING CLASSES.
I THINK LIBRARIES ARE BECOMING MORE COMMUNITY BASED WITH
WHAT THEY OFFER.
IT'S NOT JUST BOOKS ANYMORE.
11:34:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.
I HAVE NO IDEA AND DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE
PHYSICAL BUILDING WILL LOOK LIKE FOR A LIBRARY 20, 30, 40
YEARS.
WHAT IS THE LIFE EXPECTANCY OF THE PHYSICAL STRUCTURE OF THE
BUILDING?
DO YOU CONSIDER THAT, TOO?
11:34:55AM >> DON'T USUALLY GIVE LIFE EXPECTANCY TO BUILDINGS, BUT IT
IS MADE OUT OF CONCRETE AND ROMAN TRAVERTINE, TWO OF THE
STURDIEST MATERIALS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
IT COULD PROBABLY WITHSTAND A CAT 4 HURRICANE.

IT WAS MADE TO LAST.
THE ARCHITECTS CALLED IT THE TAJ MAHAL OF LIBRARIES.
I THINK THE LIFE EXPECTANCY WAS INTENDED TO BE IN TAMPA FOR
A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
11:35:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:35:27AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I'M GLAD THROUGH THIS WE'RE CONTINUING TO
HONOR JUDGE GERMANY.
I DIDN'T KNOW HIM WELL.
I MET HIM A LOT OF TIMES, I KNEW HIM MAINLY THROUGH BILL
McBRIDE WHO WAS A FRIEND AND MEN TORE.
I THINK THAT DENNIS MIGHT KNOW THIS, I THINK McBRIDE WAS
ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HELPED PUSH TO HONOR JUDGE GERMANY.
IT'S INTERESTING HOW TIME GOES BY AND YOU REALIZE THAT
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN GONE A LONG TIME AND YOU NEED TO CONTINUE
TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM.
I LOVE MID CENTURY MODERN BUILDINGS AND ARCHITECTURE.
I ABSOLUTELY THINK WE SHOULD PROTECT IT.
THERE IS ANOTHER ONE, THE FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, NOW
THE PORTICO.
THAT BUILDING IS SPECTACULAR.
THE BRUTALIST ARCHITECTURE I GUESS CITY HALL, THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT BUILDING, THE CITY HALL IN BOSTON, HOPEFULLY IN 20
OR 30 YEARS PEOPLE WILL LOVE THOSE BUILDINGS, BUT WE'LL SEE.
EAST GERMANY AND OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY BUILT A LOT OF IT,
THEY ARE REPURPOSING THOSE.

ANYWAY, LAST THING I WANT TO ASK, DENNIS, COULD I ASK YOU A
QUESTION?
BECAUSE YOU WERE AROUND BACK THEN, AS I RECALL, THE BACK
HALF OF THIS BUILDING, THE LAST MAYOR SOLD IT TO A DEVELOPER
AND IT'S NOW A HUGE CONDO RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE STRAZ
CENTER.
WAS THAT PART OF IT NOT CONSIDERED HISTORIC?
AND THE SECOND HALF OF THE QUESTION, YOU CAN ANSWER AT THE
SAME TIME, WE'VE HAD HISTORIC BUILDINGS IN PLACES THAT
BUILDINGS AND PLACES THAT WERE ON THE NATIONAL HISTORIC
REGISTRY, BUT WERE TORN DOWN ANYWAY BY PRIOR
ADMINISTRATIONS.
WILL WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY PROTECT THIS BUILDING GOING
FORWARD?
AND WHAT STEPS WOULD SOMEBODY HAVE TO GO THROUGH IF THEY
WANT TO CONVERT IT TO A CONDO LIKE THEY DID THE BACK HALF?
11:37:33AM >>DENNIS FERNANDEZ:
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND HISTORIC
PRESERVATION MANAGER.
AT THE TIME WHEN THE ANNEX WAS DEMOLISHED, THERE WAS
OBVIOUSLY NO DESIGNATION ON THE PROPERTY, SO THAT WASN'T
REVIEWED FROM AN HISTORIC PRESERVATION STANDPOINT.
THAT AND I THINK YOU'LL HEAR THE SPEAKERS TALK ABOUT HOW
THAT BECAME THE CATALYST FOR THIS INITIATIVE AND THE CONCERN
OVER THIS PARTICULAR RESOURCE GROUP BASED ON THAT
DEMOLITION.

NOW THAT A BUILDING WOULD BE DESIGNATED POTENTIALLY, THAT
WOULD BECOME THE HIGHEST FORM OF PROTECTION THAT THE CITY
HAS FOR BUILT STRUCTURES.
NATIONAL REGISTER DESIGNATIONS ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
THEY ARE INTENDED TO BRING RECOGNITION AND HISTORICAL FOCUS
ON HISTORIC RESOURCES, BOTH AT A STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL.
HOWEVER, THEY BRING LITTLE IN THE FORM OF PROTECTION.
AND THAT'S I THINK WHAT YOU WERE REFERRING TO.
THAT'S WHY WE EXIST, AND THAT'S WHY WE SPEND MOST OF OUR
TIMES ADVOCATING FOR PROTECTION THROUGH LOCAL ORDINANCES
BECAUSE THAT BRINGS THE HIGHEST DEGREE OF PROTECTION.
ANY TYPE OF WORK THAT IS DONE ON THE BUILDING, PARTICULARLY
THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO BE REVIEWED IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR STANDARDS.
AND IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOME TYPE OF MODIFICATION OF A
SIGNIFICANT NATURE OR DEMOLITION TO A DESIGNATED PROPERTY AT
THE LOCAL LEVEL, THERE IS A VERY RIGOROUS PROCESS BEFORE
EITHER THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW COMMISSION, BARRIO LATINO
COMMISSION THAT THEN COMES INTO PLAY.
11:39:09AM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO THROW OUT TWO OTHER NAMES.
SOUNDS LIKE THE SPEAKERS WILL TALK AS WELL.
LINDA SAUL-SENA, WHO WAS HERE EARLIER, BEEN A HUGE ADVOCATE
FOR SAVINGS BUILDINGS LIKE THIS.
AND JAN PLATT, I REMEMBER HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH HER WHEN
SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUILDING GOING BEHIND IT.

JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF THOSE PAST LEADERS FOR THEIR WORK
IN HELPING PRESERVE THESE BUILDINGS.
11:39:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:39:32AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I JUST REMINISCE A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING --
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-- USED TO COME IN TO PLAY FROM HAVANA.
WONDERFUL THING TO WALK AROUND AT THAT TIME IN HISTORY.
THE ONLY THING THERE NOW THAT I REMEMBER WAS A RAILROAD
TRACK.
THAT'S STILL THERE.
OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED OTHER THAN THIS
BUILDING THAT SURVIVED THROUGH THE '50s, 60s, TO WHAT IT
IS TODAY.
BEAUTIFUL THING.
NO ONE DESERVES MORE THAN THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS NAMED AFTER
JOHN GERMANY.
I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND EVERYONE INVOLVED IN
THE CITY TO DO THIS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:40:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
YES, MA'AM.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

11:40:43AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS AMY ESPINOSA.
SEVEN YEARS AGO I WAS OUTRAGED AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE
I FOUND OUT THROUGH AN ARTICLE WITH A QUOTE FROM LINDA
SAUL-SENA THAT THE ANNEX WAS GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED.
THAT'S KIND OF WHEN THIS STARTED FOR ME.
THIS JOURNEY TO, QUOTE, SAVE THE LIBRARY.
THAT'S WHAT BRINGS ME IN FRONT OF YOU HERE TODAY BECAUSE I
BELIEVE THESE BUILDINGS ARE WONDERFUL TOO.
ANNEX NOT SO MUCH.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS A GREAT LOSS, ALTHOUGH I WOULD HAVE
PREFERRED AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO GO IN.
BUT BEYOND THAT, I WANT TO FIRST THANK MAYOR CASTOR, BECAUSE
WITHOUT HER SUPPORT, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
I ALSO WANT TO THANK HEATHER BONDS AND DENNIS.
THEY HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB AND BEEN GREAT ADVOCATES
HELPING US PUSH THIS THROUGH.
ALSO, THE JENNEWEIN FAMILY, OLIVA FAMILY AND PARAS FAMILIES,
SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT YOU SAW CAME FROM THE JENNEWEIN
ARCHIVES.
SO ALL OF THOSE FAMILIES HAVE BEEN REALLY GREAT IN
SUPPORTING THIS EFFORT.
IN MY HEART I BELIEVE THAT YOU ALL AGREE TO, NOW I FEEL EVEN
STRONGER, THAT THIS -- THE JOHN F. GERMANY LIBRARY AND
AUDITORIUM WOULD BE A TRAGIC LOSS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE TODAY OF
PRESERVING THESE BUILDINGS BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN PROACTIVE
PRESERVATION.
WE NEED TO ADOPT A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH AND LOOK AT
HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT BUILDINGS LONG BEFORE THEY ARE IN
DANGER.
THE REASON FOR THIS IS BECAUSE IT PROTECTS OUR CULTURE, THE
REVOLUTION OF OUR CITY, THE STORIES AND THE CULTURE THAT
CONNECT PEOPLE TO THESE PLACES.
AS WE PAGE, THEY STILL STAND SO WE CAN REMEMBER THEM INSTEAD
OF AGING IN A CITY THAT WE NO LONGER RECOGNIZE.
I BELIEVE TODAY IS A PERFECT DAY TO START.
SO I WILL KEEP IT SHORT.
BRINGING AWARENESS DOESN'T SAVE THIS BUILDING.
LANDMARKING IT GIVES US A MUCH BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE
SURE IT'S HERE FOR THE FUTURE.
I ASK YOU TODAY TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF DESIGNATING THE JOHN F.
GERMANY AS A LIBRARY AND AUDITORIUM AS A LOCAL LANDMARK SO
THAT WE MIGHT PRESERVE IT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
11:43:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, NEXT SPEAKER.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:43:19AM >> GOOD MORNING.
MY NAME IS GG JENNEWEIN.

I LIVE AT 1215 EAST CLIFTON STREET.
I'M HERE AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE JENNEWEIN FAMILY.
I AM JIM JENNEWEIN'S DAUGHTER AS WELL.
I AM A RECENTLY RETURNED RESIDENT TO TAMPA.
I'VE BEEN GONE FOR OVER 45 YEARS FROM THE CITY THAT I WAS
MOVED TO WHEN I WAS THREE YEARS OLD IN 1960.
I FIND MYSELF REGULARLY BEING MOVED BY EVIDENCE OF MY
PARENTS, BOTH MY FATHER'S AND MY MOTHER'S EFFORTS TO
PRESERVE, TO PROMOTE, AND TO ADVANCE THE ARTS AND CULTURE IN
TAMPA, NOT JUST THE LIBRARY BUILDING, BUT THE STRAZ CENTER,
THE TAMPA MUSEUM OF ART, YBOR CITY, AND THE STREETCAR, TO
NAME JUST A FEW OF THOSE EFFORTS THAT MY PARENTS WERE
INVOLVED IN.
THIS BUILDING, THIS LIBRARY IS NOT ONLY ARCHITECTURALLY
SIGNIFICANT AS OTHERS HAVE POINTED OUT, BUT IT HISTORICALLY
SERVES AS A REPRESENTATION OF THOSE, THE MANY WHO DEVOTED
THEMSELVES TO ESTABLISHING TAMPA AS THE WORLD-CLASS CITY
THAT UPON RETURNING 45 YEARS LATER, I AM NOW SEEING IT
BECOMING.
I AM PROUD TO BE BACK HERE AND PROUD TO BE PART OF THE CITY
ONCE AGAIN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
11:44:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.

11:44:54AM >> BRUCE GIBSON, 1227 EAST HENRY AVENUE IN TAMPA.
I'M HERE TO OFFER MY SUPPORT FOR DESIGNATING THIS BUILDING
FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK STATUS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BOTH FOR ITS CULTURAL AND SOCIAL
SIGNIFICANCE AS WELL AS FOR THE ARCHITECTURE.
SOCIALLY, WHEN I MOVED HERE IN 1989 FROM ORLANDO, THAT OTHER
CITY, I EVENTUALLY WENT TO USF AND GOT A MASTER'S DEGREE IN
ARCHITECTURE.
BUT LONG BEFORE THAT, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I DID WHEN I
MOVED TO TAMPA WAS FIND OUT WHERE THE MAIN LIBRARY WAS SO I
COULD GET A CARD.
THAT'S NOT ANYTHING SPECIAL.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THIS CITY DID
BEFORE ME AND HAVE DONE AFTER ME.
I THINK THAT'S GOT TO BE A BIG PART OF THE IMPORTANCE OF
THIS, BOTH AS AN INSTITUTION AND AS A BUILDING.
ARCHITECTURALLY, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH THE PRESENTATION.
THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH SAID ABOUT IT, I WOULD SAY THAT MID
CENTURY MODERN IS A REALLY BIG CATEGORY, BUT SOME OF THE
FEATURES, ONE THAT I DIDN'T HEAR SPOKEN OF WAS THE
REFLECTING PONDS AND HOW YOU WALK THROUGH.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT A BUILDING AT THE TOP OF A MOUNTAIN OF
STAIRS, THERE IS STILL A SENSE OF GOING SOMEPLACE SPECIAL, I
THINK THAT APPROACH.
THE MATERIALS, THE TRAVERTINE, THE WOOD, IT'S NOT I DON'T

THINK AN EXCESSIVE BUILDING BUT IT'S GOT A LOT OF GOOD
THINGS THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE DIFFICULT TO REPLACE.
I DON'T WANT TO START A FIGHT, BUT -- AND I HOPE NOT TO BE
OVERLY PEDANTIC, PEOPLE SAID BRUTALISM.
I'M NOT SO SURE THIS IS BRUTALISM.
I WOULD SAY THAT THE ARCHITECTS HAD TO HAVE BEEN INFLUENCED
BY THE WORK OF EDWARD DURELL STONE WHO WAS AT THE HEIGHT OF
HIS CAREER 50, 60, 70s.
KENNEDY CENTER IN WASHINGTON AND THE FLORIDA CAPITOL, THE
NEW FLORIDA CAPITOL, NOT NEW ANY MORE FROM THE 1970s.
HIS WORK WAS ABOUT MODERN PUBLIC BUILDINGS THAT TRIED TO
GIVE A NEW LANGUAGE TO THE CLASSICISM THAT HAD CHARACTERIZED
PUBLIC BUILDINGS BEFORE AND THE NOBILITY OF THAT.
I THINK YOU CAN ALSO LOOK AT THIS WITH THE COLUMNS AND THE
PORTICO.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT KIND OF NOD TO THAT SENSE OF CLASSICAL
ARCHITECTURE IN PUBLIC BUILDINGS.
ANYWAY, THANK YOU.
I ALSO HOPE THAT ONCE IT'S DESIGNATED MAYBE THE BUILDING IS
A LITTLE MORE CHERISHED ALSO BY THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA.
THANK YOU.
11:47:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, MA'AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:47:37AM >> GOOD MORNING.

MY NAME IS ELENA PARAS KETCHUM.
I AM THE DAUGHTER OF GUS PARAS, WHO WAS MENTIONED IN THE
PRESENTATION.
A LIFE-LONG RESIDENT OF TAMPA, BORN AND RAISED HERE WITH MY
FAMILY EMIGRATING FROM GREECE IN EARLY 1900s TO TAMPA.
I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH THE FIRM STICHTER, RIEDEL, RIGHT ACROSS
GASLIGHT PARK.
MY FATHER WAS ONE OF THE TWO YOUNG ARCHITECTS WHO WORKED FOR
THE JENNEWEIN FIRM WITH ANGEL OLIVA, WHO WAS PRIMARILY
TASKED WITH DESIGNING THE AUDITORIUM THAT IS BEHIND THE MAIN
BUILDING OF THE LIBRARY.
ONE OF HIS MAIN CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THE AUDITORIUM IS ACTUALLY
IF YOU GO AND LOOK, THERE IS A BASE THAT'S QUITE UNIQUE AND
INTRICATE THAT WAS STYLED OFF OF FRANK LLOYD WRIGHT.
THAT WAS MY DAD'S CONTRIBUTION.
I WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT TO DRIVE
AROUND AND BE ABLE TO SEE JUST LIKE MRS. JENNEWEIN
MENTIONED, TO SEE YOUR FAMILY'S CONTRIBUTION PHYSICALLY IN
THE CITY ITSELF AND SAY MY FAMILY AND MY FATHER HAD A STAKE
IN SOMETHING THAT I'M LOOKING AT AND THAT THOUSANDS WITHIN
THE CITY CHERISH AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY.
MY FATHER DID SHARE WITH ME THAT THE AUDITORIUM WAS AN
EXPRESSION OF MODERN ARCHITECTURE AT THAT TIME NOW KNOWN AS
MID CENTURY MODERN.
MY PARENTS STILL ARE IN THEIR 80s, MID 80s AND STILL

LIVE HERE IN TAMPA.
THE LIBRARY AND AUDITORIUM DIRECTLY SPEAK TO AND PROVIDE THE
COMMUNITY WITH A DIRECT AND ACTIVE LINK TO THE STYLE OF
ARCHITECTURE.
AS IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED NO OTHER BUILDING OR BUILDINGS LIKE
THIS IN DOWNTOWN.
IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON AND THE
STYLES THAT ARE GOING UP, THEY ARE NOT AT ALL SIMILAR TO
THIS BUILDING.
THIS BUILDING IS UNIQUE AND GIVES A UNIQUE FACE TO DOWNTOWN.
IT IS ONLY THROUGH THESE BUILDINGS THAT THE CHARACTER OF THE
CITY IS A VISIBLE REPRESENTATION TO ALL OF ITS CITIZENS.
AND THIS BUILDING IN AND OF ITSELF TO MR. MIRANDA'S POINT,
HARKENS BACK TO THE PAST, BUT ALSO SERVES INTO THE FUTURE
FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, WHETHER IT'S A LIBRARY, WHETHER
IT'S THE ARCHIVES THAT ARE ACTUALLY HOUSED FOR THE CITY OF
TAMPA THAT CITIZENS CAN GO AND LOOK AT ARCHIVAL PHOTOS, SUCH
AS THE ONE THAT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION TODAY.
SO I WOULD SUBMIT THAT IT'S MORE THAN A LIBRARY.
IT SERVES TODAY AS A FUNCTION AS A LIBRARY AND HISTORICALLY
HAS BEEN A LIBRARY, BUT IT REALLY IS THE FACE OF TAMPA IN
DOWNTOWN AND IS TO BE PRESERVED AS THAT FACE OF DOWNTOWN
TAMPA.
WITH THE RAPID GROWTH AGAIN, IT'S SOMETHING TO BE PRESERVED
AND TO BE REALLY ADMIRED WHETHER YOU ARE A STUDENT OF

ARCHITECTURE OR NOT.
SO WITH THAT AND ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY, WE DO THANK THE
MAYOR'S CONSIDERATION OF BRINGING THIS PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU
AND AS COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION OF THE PROPOSAL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
11:50:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
11:50:41AM >> GOOD MORNING.
JOHN MULLEN, I'M A LOCAL ATTORNEY, BUT TODAY I'M HERE IN MY
CAPACITY AS PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF THE JOHN F. GERMANY
LIBRARY, WHICH IS A CHAPTER OF THE COUNTYWIDE NONPROFIT
FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY.
THE FRIENDS WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS LANDMARKING EFFORT
TO DESIGNATE THE JFG LIBRARY AND ITS AUDITORIUM AS A LOCAL
LANDMARK.
THE BUILDING HAS SERVED OUR COMMUNITY WELL FOR MORE THAN 60
YEARS OR NEARLY 60 YEARS AND WE ARE EAGER TO SEE THAT
CONTINUE FOR DECADES TO COME.
PERSONALLY, I HAVE REGULARLY USED THE LIBRARY SINCE 1974, 50
YEARS, WHICH IS THE YEAR MY FATHER STARTED WORKING AS A
LIBRARIAN THERE.
HE WORKED THERE FOR 20 YEARS.
SINCE HIS PASSING FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS, I'VE BEEN A FRIEND
OF THE LIBRARY AND HAVE BEEN REGULARLY INVOLVED AT THE JOHN

F. GERMANY LIBRARY.
WHAT I HAVE SEEN IN THAT TIME, I WITNESSED THE CHANGES, THE
INTERIOR RENOVATIONS, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LIBRARY AND TO
ALL THE SERVICES THAT THE LIBRARY PROVIDES.
I CAN ATTEST THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RECENT INFLUX OF
RESIDENTS IN SEVERAL LARGE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND
CONDOMINIUMS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE, THE LIBRARY IS TODAY
MORE VIBRANT AND WELL USED SPACE THAN IT HAS BEEN SINCE ITS
EARLY YEARS IN THE 1960s AND 1970s.
ONE EXAMPLE, TODAY FEW HUNDRED UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA STUDENTS
WHO LIVE IN THE 20-STORY HENRY APARTMENT BUILDING THAT'S
JUST ONE BLOCK AWAY.
WE SEE MANY OF THOSE STUDENTS REGULARLY USE THE LIBRARY AS A
CONVENIENT STUDY HALL AND RESOURCE CENTER.
WE ALSO SEE INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC FROM AROUND THE AREA WITH
THE LARGE NUMBER OF EVENTS HELD IN THE CURTIS HIXON PARK.
WE SEE FOOT TRAFFIC COME IN ALL THE TIME BECAUSE OF THAT AND
EVENTS AT THE STRAZ CENTER AS WELL.
IT IS A GREAT SYNERGY THAT WE SEE THERE.
THE FRIENDS OPERATE A BOOKSTORE AND WE HAVE REGULAR MONTHLY
BOOK SALES.
EVERY DOLLAR WE RAISE THROUGH BOOK SALES GOES TO PAY FOR
LIBRARY PROGRAMS.
EVERY DOLLAR.
WE SELL MORE THAN $10,000 WORTH OF BOOKS EVERY YEAR.

MOST OF THOSE BOOKS ARE PRICED AT $2 OR LESS.
IT'S A LOT OF BOOKS THAT WE SELL.
IT'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE SEE.
IN ADDITION TO THE LIBRARY'S ARCHITECTURAL AND CULTURAL
SIGNIFICANCE THAT YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, THE LIBRARY ALSO
RECOGNIZES THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF ONE OF OUR HISTORICALLY
SIGNIFICANT CITIZENS, JOHN GERMANY HIMSELF.
MR. GERMANY SERVED AS A CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE AND WAS THE VERY
FIRST PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY.
HE WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDING PARTNERS OF THE PROMINENT LAW
FIRM OF HOLLAND AND KNIGHT.
COINCIDENTALLY, I HAD THE PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH HIM MORE
THAN A DECADE.
HE WAS A VERY GOOD MAN.
HE WAS HUMBLE.
I COULD VERIFY HE HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
NAMING OF THE BUILDING IN 1999 IN HIS HONOR, WHICH WAS A
COMMUNITY EFFORT, AS MANY OF YOU HAVE MENTIONED.
THAT IDEA WAS DEVELOPED AND SUPPORTED BY MANY LOCAL LEADERS,
SAW IT AS A FITTING WAY TO HONOR MR. GERMANY AND HIS MANY
CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS LANDMARKING EFFORT HELPED SOLIDIFY THAT AS WELL.
IN CLOSING, THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY FULLY SUPPORT THIS
EFFORT TO ADDRESS MR. CLENDENIN'S CONCERN, I WANTED TO
MENTION THAT I HAVE CONFERRED WITH LIBRARY MANAGEMENT ABOUT

WHETHER THEY HAVE A POSITION ON THIS LANDMARKING ISSUE.
AS A PUBLIC BODY AND PUBLIC EMPLOYEES, THEY CANNOT TAKE A
POSITION ON IT.
11:54:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:54:02AM >> HOWEVER, IF THEY OBJECTED THEY COULD INSTRUCT ME TO DO
THAT.
I HAVE NOT BEEN SO INSTRUCTED.
WE SUPPORT IT.
11:54:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:54:08AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
MR. MULLINS, PLEASE, I NEED HELP.
I NEED A LOT OF HELP, BUT BESIDES THAT, ON THIS ISSUE.
MANY YEARS AGO, THERE WAS A YOUNG LAWYER CAME TO SEE -- USED
TO WORK AT HOLLAND AND KNIGHT.
HE WAS THE WRONG THAT BROUGHT UP -- I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE
TIME AND PERIOD IN HISTORY, WHAT IT WAS.
IT WAS EITHER UNDER ONE OF THE PAST THREE ADMINISTRATIONS
THAT HE CAME UP AND RENAMED THE LIBRARY, CALLED TAMPA OR
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY LIBRARY, FORGET WHAT IT WAS.
HE IS THE ONE THAT CAME TO THE CITY OF TAMPA AND BROUGHT UP
NAMING THIS LIBRARY AFTER FORMER JOHN GERMANY.
DO YOU REMEMBER ALL THAT?
11:55:00AM >> I DO.
I WAS INVOLVED, SOMEWHAT MORE TANGENTIAL LEVEL, BUT I WAS
INVOLVED.
I THINK SOME OF THE LEADERS OF THAT EFFORT WHO MAY HAVE

APPEARED HERE WERE RICHARD BALOUGH, WHO IS STILL A
PRACTICING LAWYER AT ANOTHER FIRM, AND ALSO STEVE YERRID WAS
INVOLVED.
11:55:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALL THAT CAME AND I FORGET WHICH
ADMINISTRATION.
NOT SURE IF IT WAS BUCKHORN.
11:55:24AM >> IT WAS 1999.
11:55:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT WAS THE END OF GRECO'S TERM, I
THINK.
11:55:32AM >> I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
11:55:33AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I REMEMBER ONE OF THOSE TWO.
STRUGGLING IN MY MIND.
DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE AN ERROR.
NOTICE I DIDN'T CALL MISTAKE.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ERROR AND MISTAKE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND WORKING WITH
THE GREAT PEOPLE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:55:48AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MIRANDA.
11:55:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND COUNCIL
MEMBER CARLSON.
11:55:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, THE QUESTIONS I
HAD, I DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE TO THINK THAT IN ANY WAY MY
QUESTIONS WERE NEGATIVE ABOUT THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF
THIS.

THOSE TYPE OF QUESTIONS, THIS IS THE TIME TO ASK THE
QUESTIONS BECAUSE AFTER THIS HEARING IT'S TOO LATE.
I'M ALL FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
IT WAS PART OF MY CAMPAIGN WHEN I RAN THAT WE CAN'T TEAR
DOWN EVERYTHING THAT'S SPECIAL ABOUT TAMPA TO CREATE
SOMETHING NEW.
WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PRESERVE AND BLEND TO MAKE THIS CITY A
TRULY GREAT CITY.
NO GREAT CITY IN THIS WORLD BULLDOZED THEIR OLD CITY AND
THEN BUILT A BRAND-NEW ONE FROM SCRATCH.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
ALSO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, I WANT
TO LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO HAVE THE WRECKING BALL IN MY HANDS TO
CONTROL -- THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS BUILDING, BRUTALIST, I DON'T
NECESSARILY IDENTIFY IT AS BRUTALIST.
I AGREE WITH THE ARCHITECT THAT SPOKE ABOUT THE BLENDING OF
KIND OF HISTORIC GRAND BUILDING TO A MID CENTURY MODERN
BUILDING, USE OF TRAVERTINE, SOFTENING WITH HONEYCOMB
STRUCTURE, THE FOUNTAINS IN THE BEGINNING.
IT'S SO TRANSPARENT WITH THE GLASS AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE
INTERIOR WITH STAIRCASES.
THERE ARE A LOT OF ELEMENTS ABOUT IT THAT ARE OPEN AND AIRY,
AND THE BLENDING OF OUTSIDE TO INSIDE.
IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE SEE OVER HERE.

I'M GOING TO FULLY SUPPORT THIS, OF COURSE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO ACTUALLY EXTENDING THIS DESIGNATION TO
OTHER STRUCTURES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRESERVE OUR HISTORY.
11:57:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
11:57:44AM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUST IN CASE IT HASN'T BEEN DONE, BUT
HOPEFULLY DONE, SOMEBODY FROM COMMUNICATION OR USF WILL GRAB
VIDEO COVERAGE OF SOME OF THE TESTIMONY TODAY BUT ALSO
INTERVIEW THE FAMILIES AND IF SOME OF THE ARCHITECTS ARE
STILL AVAILABLE, I HOPE WE CAN GET THEM ON VIDEO AND RECORD
IT.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME BUILDINGS THAT FOLKS STILL AROUND HAVE
DIFFERENCE OF OPINION OF WHO DID WHAT AND IMPORTANT TO GET
FAMILY HISTORIES TO ALSO HAVE IT ALL RECORDED.
HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY WILL DO THAT AND CAPTURE THE IMPORTANT
FAMILY HISTORY.
11:58:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO CLOSE?
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON, WOULD YOU MIND READING IT?
11:58:23AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FILE HL 24-3846, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED
FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.

AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, DESIGNATING JOHN
F. GERMANY PUBLIC LIBRARY AND AUDITORIUM LOCATED AT 900
NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
DESCRIBED IN SECTION 3 HEREOF, AS A LOCAL HISTORIC LANDMARK;
PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT;
PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY; PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:58:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
HENDERSON.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
11:58:58AM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
11:58:59AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
11:59:01AM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
11:59:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
11:59:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
11:59:03AM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
11:59:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
11:59:06AM >>THE CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE ON MAY 16th AT
9:30 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL LOCATED AT 315 EAST KENNEDY
BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:59:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER 65 WILL NOT BE HEARD.
IT IS A MISNOTICE.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO RESCHEDULE THAT HEARING TO JUNE 6,

2024 AT 1:30 P.M., 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA,
FLORIDA, 33602, THIRD FLOOR.
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ITEM 66, I THINK THIS IS VERY QUICK.
THEN WE'LL BREAK FOR LUNCH.
AFTER LUNCH, WE'LL COME BACK WITH ITEM 86.
11:59:48AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
MORRIS MASSEY, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
THIS IS THE REQUIRED CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING TO ADOPT
THE AMENDMENT TO THE CHANNEL DISTRICT COMMUNITY
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA.
THE RESOLUTION WAS ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT A TO THE RESOLUTION
SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
NOTICES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING WERE SENT TO ALL TAXING
AUTHORITIES AND IT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER.
I'M GOING TO SUBMIT THE ACTUAL RESOLUTION THAT YOU'RE BEING
REQUESTED TO ADOPT, WHICH AGAIN IS PART OF THE BACKUP IN
YOUR BACKUP TO THE CLERK TO MAKE IT CLEAR WHAT'S BEING
ADOPTED.
THE ONLY THING I'VE DONE IS MARKED THE NUMBER OF THE
RESOLUTION, THE CRA RESOLUTION WHERE YOU ALL RECOMMENDED ITS
APPROVAL.

I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
12:00:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY ACTION THAT WE NEED TO TAKE TODAY?
12:00:35PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
YOU NEED TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION.
12:00:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I JUST WANT TO SAY IN THE LAST 24 HOURS OR
SO, I'VE HAD OUTREACH FROM THE MARITIME COMMUNITY.
FOLKS HAVE POINTED OUT THAT SOME DIRECT AND INDIRECT
REFERENCES IN THIS DOCUMENT THAT CAN BE SEEN AS ADVERSE TO
THE MARITIME COMMUNITY.
AN EXAMPLE IS THAT THE ENTIRE AREA EAST OF CHANNELSIDE DRIVE
IS DESIGNATED AS UNDERDEVELOPED, UNDERUTILIZED AREA.
THAT GOES WITH -- IT SEEMS TO INDICATE THE PHILOSOPHY OF
CONVERTING MARITIME LAND TO CONDOS AND THAT UTILIZING
HIGH-PAYING BLUE COLLAR JOBS IN THE MARITIME INDUSTRY IS NOT
IMPORTANT AND VAGUE REFERENCES TO THE RIVERWALK.
THERE IS A DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW WHERE SOME FOLKS WANT TO GET
RID OF THE MARITIME INDUSTRY AND PUT THE RIVERWALK AROUND
THE WATER.
WITH THOSE CONCERNS IN THE MARITIME COMMUNITY AND MY
INTEREST PROTECTING THE MARITIME COMMUNITY, I'LL VOTE NO.
12:01:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
YES, SIR.
12:01:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I'M GOING TO VOTE YES.
CERTAINLY THE RIVERWALK CONCERNING TO ALL PARTIES.
I'M NOT HERE TO TAKE THE CRUISE SHIP OUT OF BUSINESS, NOT AT
ALL.

THAT'S WHAT THE RUMOR IS.
WHETHER IT'S FACTUAL OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT IF THERE IS A RIVERWALK EXTENSION, IT WILL CERTAINLY NOT
INTERFERE WHERE THE SHIPS COMING IN FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO
GO ON VACATION OR WHATEVER.
ON A DAILY BASIS, THOSE SHIPS ARE NOT HERE.
THERE COULD BE A RIVERWALK WHICH IS WALKABLE WHEN THEY ARE
NOT HERE AND NOT WALKABLE WHEN THEY ARE HERE.
EVERYTHING HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE DESIGNED THAT WAY.
MET WITH NO ONE OR SPOKE WITH NO ONE.
JUST MY FEELING.
12:02:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS MODIFIED
REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE MARITIME COMMUNITY
OR ANY PARTIES INVESTED OR INTERESTED IN THIS PARTICULAR
AREA TO REACH OUT TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL.
IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS, I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD SHARE THEM SO
WE COULD HAVE A DIVERSE AND BROAD PERSPECTIVE ON HELPING YOU
ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.
THANK YOU.
12:02:45PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
BRIEFLY, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THE PORT AUTHORITY IS PART OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THE
CHANNEL DISTRICT CRA ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THEY ARE INVOLVED.
NOTHING IN THE PLAN MANDATES ANY DEVELOPMENT OF ANY PROPERTY
OR THE EXTENSION OF THE RIVERWALK.

FINALLY, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO YOU DO NEED TO INVITE THE PUBLIC IF THEY HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
12:03:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT
WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 66?
THERE'S NOBODY REGISTERED.
ANYBODY?
WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
IS THERE A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION?
MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
ROLL CALL VOTE.
12:03:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
YES.
12:03:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
12:03:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
12:03:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
12:03:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
12:03:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
12:03:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
12:03:37PM >>THE CLERK:
THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
12:03:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE GOING TO BREAK FOR LUNCH.
WE'LL COME BACK AT 1:15 AND GO RIGHT TO NUMBER 86.
WE'LL MAKE IT 1:20, BUT WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER 86.
WE ARE IN RECESS.
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
[LUNCH RECESS]
[ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
1:20:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
1:20:52PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
1:20:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
1:20:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
1:20:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PRESENT.
1:20:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
1:20:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
1:21:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
1:21:02PM >>THE CLERK:
YOU HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
1:21:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. BHIDE, FOR ITEM NUMBER 78, WE'RE NOT
GOING TO NEED YOU PRESENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JUST TO REFRESH EVERYTHING.
WE'LL HEAR ITEM 86 FIRST, THEN 68, 69, 70, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,
81, 78, 79, 80, 82, 83, 84, 85, 53 AND 54.
ITEM 86.
1:21:43PM >> THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT CONTINUING 85.

THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL --
1:21:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FOR 85, WE NEED TO WAIT FOR STAFF UNTIL
WE MAKE ANY MOTIONS TO CONTINUE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 86.
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA, THIS WAS YOUR MOTION.
DO YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF?
1:22:07PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SURE, IF I MAY.
I HAVE HERE THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION.
I THINK I WORKED ON IT SUNDAY.
MR. SHELBY FINALIZED IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS.
THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT DEALS WITH THIS PROPOSED
COMMITTEE.
I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE
LOOKING AT DOING ON THIS COMMITTEE.
IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO 100%.
AND I THANK THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, EVERYBODY HERE AND
EVERYBODY WHO HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR US TO DO THIS COMMITTEE.
WE'VE AGREED AS A CITY COUNCIL ON FIVE PILLARS THAT THE
COMMITTEE CAN DEAL WITH.
AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE HOUSING.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IGNORED HISTORY AND OUR YOUTH.
I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS.
THOSE ARE ITEMS THAT I CAME UP WITH IN TALKING TO THE

COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL IS 100% ON BOARD.
YOU'LL SEE HERE THE ISSUE OF MAKEUP.
WE HEARD FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO
BE MAKING ANY APPOINTMENTS TO THIS BOARD.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT IS A MISSED OPPORTUNITY.
BUT NOW THE ISSUE COMES WHERE WE COME UP WITH THE
APPOINTMENTS.
I SUGGESTED SIX ORGANIZATIONS WHO COME FROM THE FAITH AND
CIVIL RIGHTS, THE HISTORY, ADVOCACY AND ECONOMIC AND
DEVELOPMENT AND RETURNING CITIZENS COMMUNITIES WHO CAN MAKE
UP THOSE APPOINTMENTS, HAVE THEM HERE IN THE RESOLUTION.
GLAD TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
AND THIS IS A COMMITTEE THAT, IN MY OPINION, IS VERY, VERY
NEEDED.
WE SUPPORTED THIS IN 2020.
COMES BACK TO US IN 2024.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
I ALWAYS SAY THAT GOOD AMERICANS HAVE TO WORK HARD AT
BUILDING BRIDGES OF UNDERSTANDING AND ISSUES OF RACE.
RACE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE FOR AMERICANS
SINCE 1619, 1776, ALL THE WAY TO TODAY.
WE GOT TO MAKE HISTORICAL WRONGS RIGHT IN OUR OWN TIME.
I'M NOT NAIVE.
THIS COMMITTEE IS NOT GOING TO BE ANYTHING OF A CURE-ALL IN
ANY WAY.

BUT WHAT IT DOES IS ALLOWS US TO DO BETTER.
WE ALWAYS HAVE TO COME TO ELECTED OFFICE WITH THE IDEA TO
QUOTE SENATOR BOBBY KENNEDY, WE CAN DO BETTER.
I THINK THIS IS A COMMITTEE THAT ALLOWS US TO HEAR FROM
AFFECTED COMMUNITIES ON HOW WE CAN DO BETTER.
THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
I WANT THIS COMMITTEE TO BE ABLE TO PREPARE A REPORT, TO
BRIEF CITY COUNCIL ON THAT REPORT, AND THEN THE BALL WILL BE
IN OUR COURT IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO MEET THE
CHALLENGES OF THIS COMMITTEE.
A FEW THINGS JUST REALLY QUICKLY, IF I MAY, ON THE
COMMITTEE, THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP IN COUNCIL IN
TERMS OF HAVING THIS COMMITTEE TELEVISED, WE HAVE WORKED
WITH STAFF ON THAT FOR SOME THINGS, SOME SORT OF GETTING IT
FULLY TELEVISED LIKE A CITY COUNCIL MEETING MAY BE A LITTLE
DIFFICULT.
SOMETHING LIKE ZOOM OR SOME SORT OF METHOD WE'RE WORKING ON
DOING THAT.
THE DATE OF THE END, I PUT FEBRUARY.
WE COULD DO MARCH, APRIL TO GIVE IT A SAFETY NET.
I'M FINE WITH THAT.
IN TERMS OF COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS COMING BACK FOR APPROVAL BY
CITY COUNCIL, WE CAN HAVE THAT COME BACK POTENTIALLY MAY
2nd IS COUNCIL IS READY BY THEN.
THEN THE FACILITATOR, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH

COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I REACHED OUT TO A FRIEND OF MINE WHO I KNOW MANY OF YOU
KNOW AND RESPECT, REVEREND NORMAN HARRIS, WHO IS A CHRISTIAN
MINISTER AND A GOOD ATTORNEY.
HE'S EXPRESSED SOME INTEREST IN THAT.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
AGAIN, PASSED OUT THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION AND LET'S SEE
WHAT'S UP.
THANK YOU.
1:25:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
1:25:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA, AND MARTY AND
EVERYONE FOR GOING THROUGH THAT.
I'LL PASS THIS ARTICLE DOWN AND GIVE TWO TO MARTY.
I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RACIAL
INJUSTICE, WE THINK THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE '50s OR
THE '60s.
THIS ARTICLE IS FROM THE TAMPA BAY TIMES DATED AUGUST 3rd,
2015.
YOU ALL MAY REMEMBER THAT LENNY YOUNG GREEN THREE TIMES IN
THE PAST TEN YEARS HAD FORUMS TO TALK ABOUT INEQUALITY IN
TAMPA.
IF YOU GO TO THE TOP OF THE NEXT PAGE, THE FORUM THAT SHE
PUT TOGETHER WAS CALLED INJUSTICE AND INEQUALITY IN TAMPA'S
AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY IN THE BUCKHORN ERA.
THERE WERE THREE THAT WE KNOW OF, THREE UNITED STATES

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CIVIL RIGHTS INVESTIGATIONS OVER THE LAST
ADMINISTRATION.
ONE OF THEM IS CONTINUING NOW.
IT'S STILL NOT FINISHED YET.
THERE MAY BE MORE THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
THE POINT IS THAT THIS IS A CURRENT ISSUE, RENTING WHILE
BLACK WAS JUST STOPPED BY COUNCIL A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, AND
THAT IS THE ONE STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION.
I INTERVIEWED OR TALKED TO THE TWO REPORTERS WHO WROTE THE
BIKING WHILE BLACK STORY FROM THE TIMES BACK IN '14 OR '15.
ONE OF THEM SAID THAT THE THING IN EAST TAMPA IS THAT PEOPLE
FEEL OPPRESSED.
ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I RAN FOR OFFICE IS BECAUSE I WANTED
TO END THE OPPRESSION IN TAMPA.
IT'S RECENT.
IT'S RAW.
YOU HEAR FROM PEOPLE EVERY DAY THAT IT EXISTED.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF THE PAST
BUT ALSO THE IMMEDIATE PAST AND PRESENT AS WELL.
THANK YOU.
1:27:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE?
WHAT IS THE PLEASURE THEN?
1:27:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING REALLY QUICK JUST
TO BE ON THE RECORD.

JUST IN THE PAST 48, 72 HOURS WAS THE DAY THAT MS. LINA LOST
HER HUSBAND TO THIS TERRIBLE INCIDENT.
JUST OUT OF RESPECT FOR HER, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE KNOWS THAT
IT'S BEING PRESENTED TO US BEFORE COUNCIL TODAY.
SO I JUST WANT TO OFFER MY RESPECTS TO HER.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS CLEARED BY HER TO USE HER HUSBAND'S
DEATH AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO, MS. LINA, IF YOU ARE LISTENING, I APOLOGIZE, BECAUSE
ALTHOUGH WE UNDERSTAND, I JUST DON'T KNOW IF IT IS THE RIGHT
TIME TO DO THAT CONSIDERING THAT SHE'S IN A MOMENT THIS WEEK
OF SUFFERING AND NOT ABLE TO EVEN COMMUNICATE OUR MEETING
WAS CANCELED THIS WEEK BECAUSE SHE'S MOURNING THE LOSS OF
HER HUSBAND.
I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
NOT THAT YOU ARE DOING ANYTHING, COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON,
THIS IS NOT JUST TO DISREGARD WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO
COMMUNICATE, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BECAUSE IT WAS THIS WEEK.
1:28:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DID SPEAK TO HER THE OTHER DAY.
I DIDN'T TELL HER SPECIFICALLY I WAS BRINGING IT UP TODAY
BUT TOLD HER I WILL CONTINUE TO BRING IT UP IN THE COMMUNITY
BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF TAMPA HISTORY.
1:28:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AGREED.
1:28:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS.

SECTION 10, WHERE THE MEETINGS WILL TAKE PLACE, I THINK ONE
OF THE THINGS THAT WAS IMPORTANT TO ME IS THAT THEY HAPPEN
IN EVENINGS SO PEOPLE CAN ATTEND.
SO ADDING THAT TYPE OF LANGUAGE SO THAT THEY DON'T HAPPEN AT
9 A.M.
1:29:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK?
1:29:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE ONLY OTHER THING I MIGHT DO, HAVE YOU
TALKED TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THE FACILITATOR?
1:29:43PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAVEN'T HAD ANY PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS OR
ANYTHING WITH ANYONE ON THAT.
JUST MY IDEA WE SHOULD HAVE SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE THE
FACILITATOR.
I'VE SPOKEN TO A NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
THE ONE PERSON WHO SO FAR COMMITTED BECAUSE IT IS A BIG
COMMITMENT, IS REVEREND NORMAN HARRIS.
SO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL WHAT IS THE DIRECTION OF THAT?
DO YOU ALL WANT TO HAVE ME WORK WITH OUR ATTORNEY, MR.
SHELBY, ON FINDING FACILITATORS AND MAYBE COME PRESENT IN
TWO WEEKS AS AN UPDATE.
1:30:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE GENERALLY WHEN
A FACILITATOR COMES IN, THE FACILITATOR IS UNKNOWN.
AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE FACILITATOR SUCCESSFUL IS THAT
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY RELATIONSHIP NECESSARILY WITH THE
COMMUNITY.
SO WHEN WE HAD -- WHEN WE DID THE CHARTER REVIEW, WE HAD

SOMEONE THAT CAME FROM ORLANDO FOR EVERY MEETING.
I MIGHT RECOMMEND HAVING A FACILITATOR -- I MEAN, AGAIN,
SOME FROM OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY I THINK MIGHT BE A GOOD
CHOICE BECAUSE THIS IS AN AREA WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE
TALKING -- WHERE THE COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT
A LOT OF THINGS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PERSON CAN BE VERY FOCUSED ON JUST
FACILITATING.
SO THAT'S MY CONCERN.
1:31:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WAS LOOKING AT HAVING A COUPLE OF ATTORNEYS
HANDLE THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
SO, AGAIN, FOR THAT, THAT MAY REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT MORE
TIME.
THAT'S THE ONLY UNRESOLVED ISSUE.
I HAD POTENTIAL COMMITMENTS.
AGAIN, THE PROBLEM IS WITH THIS, IT'S A BIG COMMITMENT OF
TIME.
AND REVEREND HARRIS WOULD BE VOLUNTEERING HIS TIME.
HE IS AN ATTORNEY, ET CETERA.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO GIVE ME A
LITTLE BIT MORE TIME ON JUST BY VIRTUE OF THE TIME
COMMITMENT.
BUT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEBODY TO BE A
FACILITATOR ON A GROUP THAT'S GOING TO DO A LOT OF GOOD IN
THE COMMUNITY.

1:31:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I ALSO DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PAYING A
FACILITATOR.
WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR THAT.
WE CAN FIND THE MONEY FOR THAT.
SO IF THAT'S AN ISSUE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM PAYING FOR A
FACILITATOR.
THIS IS NOT -- LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED
MATTER.
SO MAYBE SOMEONE WHO FACILITATES FOR A LIVING REALLY FOCUSED
ON AN ACTUAL PERSON WHO HAS REALLY GREAT BONA FIDES IN DOING
THIS TYPE OF WORK.
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS -- I MEAN, WE SHOULDN'T SKIMP IN ANY
AREA, BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT KEPT THE CHARTER REVIEW
COMMISSION ON COURSE.
FROM THAT MOMENT, I HAVE A GREAT LOVE OF FACILITATORS.
1:32:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AMEN.
I OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO CHALLENGE WITH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MECHANISM WOULD BE TO GET A PAID
FACILITATOR FOR A COMMITTEE LIKE THIS THAT WE'RE CREATING
RIGHT NOW.
OBVIOUSLY I'D SUPPORT THAT.
I JUST WANT THE BEST PERSON FOR THE JOB.
1:32:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN, NO.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON AND THEN HENDERSON.
1:32:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK AND I WERE ON THE

CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.
THREE OF YOU WERE ON COUNCIL THEN.
YOU ALL WENT THROUGH USF, ANGELA CHRIS GROUP AND HIRED THE
FACILITATOR.
YOU CAN DO THAT GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT.
I THINK WE HAVE DONE THAT SINCE, MAYBE WITH THE CRA.
BUT THEY CAN FIND A FACILITATOR.
I AGREE THAT IT SHOULD BE SOMEBODY WHO IS COMPLETELY
NEUTRAL.
I WOULD MANDATE AND REQUEST THAT WHETHER THE PERSON IDEALLY
BE SOMEBODY OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY WHO CAN BE NEUTRAL AND
OBJECTIVE, BUT WE NEED TO MANDATE THAT THAT PERSON IS
NEUTRAL AND OBJECTIVE.
THEY SHOULD NOT BRING ANYTHING AND OVERLAY IT.
THEY SHOULD JUST COMPLETELY LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY.
MAKE SURE ALL THE VOICES IN THE COMMUNITY ARE HEARD AND THAT
SOMEONE IS ACCURATELY TAKING INFORMATION DOWN.
SOMETIMES FACILITATORS THROW A BIT OF THEIR OWN BIAS IN
THERE.
WE JUST WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS TO SAY.
1:33:51PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, WHAT I WOULD PROBABLY ASK
IS MAYBE TO HAVE MR. SHELBY WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO
SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN OR IF WE HAVE OUR
OWN INTERNAL BUDGET, I DON'T KNOW.
MR. SHELBY, DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT?

1:34:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, I DO.
BECAUSE I WAS INVOLVED IN FACILITATORS FOR THE CHARTER
REVIEW AND ALSO FOR THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETINGS OF THE
COUNCIL.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DID I BELIEVE IT WAS
IN 2015, THE CITY COUNCIL ACTUALLY PUT $50,000 IN THE BUDGET
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE AWARE THAT IF IT'S A MIDYEAR CHANGE,
IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE MAYOR.
IT HAS TO BE RECOMMENDED OR APPROVED BY THE MAYOR.
AGAIN, AS COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON RIGHTLY SAID, WE GOT THE
FACILITATOR THROUGH THE INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT AT USF AND
WHAT -- THAT CUT WEEKS IF NOT MONTHS OUT OF THE PROCESS
BECAUSE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND TO DO ALL
THE HOOPS THAT NEED TO BE JUMPED THROUGH TO BE ABLE TO
OBTAIN IT, IT SAVED A LOT OF TIME.
I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
1:35:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GREAT.
WE CAN PASS THIS RESOLUTION TODAY IF COUNCIL IS SUPPORTIVE,
AND THEN MAYBE MR. SHELBY AND I WORK TOGETHER WITH THE
ADMINISTRATION TO SEE IF THAT'S FEASIBLE.
1:35:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT'S FINE.
1:35:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I'M FINE WITH THAT.
1:35:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE TIMELINE.
1:35:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY --
1:35:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON IS NEXT.

YES, MA'AM.
1:35:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD LOOK AT SECTION 2 ABOUT THE
MEMBERSHIP COMMITTEE AND WHAT IT SAYS.
BASED ON PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY, SOMEONE STOOD UP AND TALKED
ABOUT IT BEING 30 MEMBERS AND NOT 13, SO WE NEED TO ADDRESS
THAT BECAUSE IT WAS IN PUBLIC COMMENT.
I THINK IT'S ONLY FAIR THAT WE'RE TRANSPARENT ON OUR
THOUGHTS ON THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.
ALSO, THE COMMITTEE MEMBER SHALL SERVE WITHOUT COMPENSATION
AND NO FUNDS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE AWARE THAT THAT'S BEEN PUT INSIDE
THE SECTIONS.
I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE HAS READ IT, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT
PUBLICLY.
THEN WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE ACTUAL STAFF THAT HAS TO BE TIED
TO THIS, SUCH AS CLERICAL, SECRETARIAL AND OTHER SERVICES
SHALL BE NEEDED BY THE COMMITTEE.
WHERE IS THAT GOING TO COME FROM?
WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THAT?
WE NEED TO MAKE THIS SITUATION WHERE PROBABLY IF A
FACILITATOR IS GOING TO BE COMPENSATED THEN CLERICAL STAFF
PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE COMPENSATED AS WELL BECAUSE IT WOULD BE
IN ADDITION TO THEIR CURRENT DUTIES THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE,
MAYBE AS A STIPEND OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.

MR. SHELBY, CAN YOU TELL ME, WHEN WE HIRED THE BUDGET
ANALYST, WAS THAT IN THE BUDGET WHEN WE APPROVED IT OR DID
THAT ADD THAT AND THE MAYOR APPROVED THAT WE DO IT AFTER THE
FACT?
IT WAS IN THE BUDGET.
SO THIS ONE WOULD BE WHERE SHE WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT IF
WE HIRED A FACILITATOR.
CORRECT, IS THAT WHAT YOU JUST SAID?
1:37:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T BELIEVE -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT,
TALKING TO MS. WILCOX, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MONIES ARE IN THE
BUDGET THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR IT.
AGAIN, THIS LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE CONTINUING FOR MONTHS IS
WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
1:37:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
A FACILITATOR IS A VERY IMPORTANT
COMPONENT OF THIS PROCESS.
THE AMOUNT OF TIME, COMMITMENT, AND THE PROFESSIONALISM AND
EXPERTISE THAT COMES WITH THAT MAY BE CHALLENGING TO FIND
SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME TO DO IT
BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF WHAT'S REQUIRED.
WE CAN'T MOVE A RESOLUTION WITHOUT CLEARLY UNDERSTANDING
SECTION 2.
1:37:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IF I MAY, MR. VIERA, IF I CAN, WITH REGARD
TO THE RESOLUTION, THIS WAS WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE THE
CONSENSUS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND BASICALLY, YOU CAN PASS THIS.

IF YOU WISH IT TO SAY ALL MEETINGS WILL TAKE PLACE IN THE
EVENING AT THE CITY CENTER, I COULD EASILY ADD THAT IN AND
REPRINT IT.
BUT WITH ALL THE OTHER ITEMS, IT'S SUBJECT TO COUNCIL'S
CONSIDERATION.
CERTAINLY, THERE ARE THINGS IN THERE.
IT DOES SAY IF YOU SEE SECTION 2, IT DOES SAY THE ROLE OF
THE ADMINISTRATION AND HOW CLERICAL, SECRETARIAL AND OTHER
SERVICES SHALL BE NEEDED BY THE COMMITTEE AND PROVIDED, I DO
REMIND YOU THAT THIS DOES HAVE A LINE ON THE RESOLUTION FOR
THE MAYOR'S SIGNATURE.
BECAUSE UNDER THE CHARTER THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IN
2019, THIS COMMITTEE'S FORMATION REQUIRES THE APPROVAL OF
THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE MAYOR.
SO, OBVIOUSLY, SHOULD THE MAYOR SIGN THIS, THE MAYOR IS ALSO
ASSENTING TO THE CONDITIONS ALSO PLACED FORTH IN THE
RESOLUTION.
I PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL AND I THANK COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR HIS
LEADERSHIP IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER IN SUCH A RAPID
TURNAROUND.
THANK YOU.
1:39:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS
TODAY.
THE QUESTION CAME UP ABOUT HOW MANY COMMITTEE MEMBERS, 13
MEMBERS, SOMEBODY HAD MENTIONED 30 IN PUBLIC COMMENT.

BUT HOW MANY MEMBERS WERE ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION?
GIVE OR TAKE THE SAME AMOUNT?
THIS IS MORE THAN WHAT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION HAD.
1:39:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
THE MAYOR HAD APPOINTEES AND COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD APPOINTEES.
1:39:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN AND COUNCIL
MEMBER VIERA.
1:39:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A COUPLE OF SMALL THINGS.
ONE, ON THE EVENING MEETING, I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT.
TO ME, I THINK ONCE THE COMMITTEE MEETS IT SHOULD BE THEIR
DECISION OF WHEN THEY WANT TO MEET AND GET TOGETHER.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NECESSARILY SHOULD TIE THEIR HANDS.
MAYBE DEPENDING ON THE MAKEUP OF THE MEETING, MAYBE CERTAIN
TIMES OF THE DAY WOULD BE BETTER THAN OTHERS.
IT COULD BE LIKE A 4:00 MEETING OR WEEKEND MEETING.
YOU NEVER KNOW.
DEPENDS ON THE MAKEUP OF THE MEETING.
LET THEM GUIDE THEMSELVES OF WHAT WORKS FOR THEM.
ON THAT, MY POINT WAS GOING TO BE EXACTLY WHAT MARTIN SHELBY
JUST MADE.
THIS REQUIRES THE MAYOR'S SIGNATURE.
I'M DISAPPOINTED AS WELL.
I WISH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WAS PARTICIPATING IN THIS
WHOLEHEARTEDLY, BUT WITHOUT THAT, AT LEAST WITH THE CONSENT,
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, I AGREE WITH THE FACILITATOR

DISCUSSION.
I THINK A GOOD FACILITATOR IS INVALUABLE.
SO WE PUT IN THERE IT IS A FUNDED FACILITATOR.
IF THE MAYOR CONSENTS TO THAT, SO BE IT.
HAS TO CONSENT, ALSO STAFF SUPPORT, YOU CAN'T HAVE A
FUNCTIONING MEETING WITHOUT STAFF SUPPORT.
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
1:41:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YEAH, BUT COMPENSATED STAFF.
1:41:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
NOT COMPENSATED STAFF.
THEY ARE BECAUSE THEY ARE ON THE CLOCK.
1:41:08PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THOUGHT WE SAID AFTER HOURS.
1:41:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE'RE NOT HIRING STAFF.
THEY GET FLEX TIME.
STAFF ALL THE TIME GOES TO NIGHT MEETINGS AND MAY TAKE OFF A
FRIDAY INSTEAD.
1:41:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
GIVE ME EXAMPLE OF WHAT STAFF.
VOLUNTEER STAFF?
1:41:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SECRETARIAL STAFF.
1:41:25PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHO IS GOING TO DECIDE THAT?
1:41:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
FOR, SAY, THE BUDGET ANALYST -- NOT THE
BUDGET -- THE CITIZENS BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE, IT'S
KARENCIA.
AND THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, IT WAS KARENCIA.
IT'S CHOSEN BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE I BELIEVE.
AND THEY MAKE THAT DECISION.

1:41:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I CAN TELL YOU -- I'M SORRY.
1:41:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD MEETING, THEY HAVE
AN ATTORNEY IN THE EVENING.
1:42:00PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THE CLERICAL STAFF IS WHAT I'M TALKING
ABOUT.
WHO IS THEY?
1:42:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF THIS IS SIGNED BY ALL PARTIES, IT WILL
WORK OUT.
MAYOR SIGNS IT, CITY COUNCIL SIGNS IT, IT WORKS OUT.
1:42:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THEN THE CLERK WILL BE GIVEN FLEX TIME.
1:42:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S UP TO THE ADMINISTRATION AND HOW
THEY DEAL WITH IT.
1:42:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WOULD NOT ASSUME, COUNCIL, THAT THE CLERK
WOULD STEP IN TO DO THIS BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THE CLERK
HAS THE STAFF TO DO THIS.
I SHOULD POINT OUT THE VERY FACT THAT THE CLERK IS NOT BASED
AT HANNA.
IF IT IS IN THE EVENING AND IT IS AT HANNA, HAVE TO DISCUSS
THAT WITH THE CLERK.
IN MY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS --
1:42:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUNCILMAN VIERA HAS SOMETHING TO SAY.
1:42:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I?
THE CLERK DOES NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HANDLE THIS AS I
THINK YOU WISELY NOTED.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE COULD DO IN TERMS OF MINUTES IS HAVE A

STAFF MEMBER FROM CITY COUNCIL AT EACH OF THE MEETINGS.
THIS IS SEVEN MEETINGS OR SO.
IT IS A CITY COUNCIL BOARD, RIGHT?
I'M 100% FINE WITH THAT.
A COUPLE OF THINGS, WITH REGARDS TO THE MEMBERSHIP, I
STRONGLY SUPPORT THE NUMBER 13, HAVING ONE MEMBER FROM EACH
COUNCIL MEMBER AND SIX IDENTIFIED COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS.
THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT EACH SERVE A UNIQUE PURPOSE AND I
THINK ARE VERY, VERY VALUABLE.
WITH REGARDS TO MEMBERS BEING PAID, I'M UNAWARE OF ANY BOARD
MEMBER HAVING PAID MEMBERS.
AND WITH REGARDS TO STAFF HELP, I KNOW THERE IS -- AS
SOMEBODY SAID ALREADY, STAFF IS COMPENSATED.
THAT'S PART OF THE JOB, ET CETERA.
WITH REGARDS TO THE CLERK, THAT'S NOT AN OPTION.
1:43:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THEN WE NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT.
I ALSO DON'T THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE SOMEONE
DIFFERENT FOR EVERY MEETING.
CONTINUITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WITH SOMETHING
LIKE THIS.
1:43:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE'LL BE VOTING ON THINGS THAT MAY COME
BACK IN THE FINAL REPORT.
1:44:03PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YOU MEAN TAKING MINUTES?
1:44:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
1:44:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THEN WHO?

1:44:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST THINK THAT CONTINUITY IS IMPORTANT WITH THAT BECAUSE
THAT PERSON WILL KNOW THEIR MINUTES.
1:44:15PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, I DON'T THINK PASSING
THIS RESOLUTION TODAY, WE'RE GETTING INTO THE WEEDS AND
THINGS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THE RESOLUTION.
IF A RESOLUTION DEALS WITH A PROCEDURE AND THESE MINUTIA
SUBSTANCE ISSUES, WE DON'T HAVE TO SOLVE THEM TODAY.
WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, THIS CAME TO US A FEW YEARS AGO.
THE COMMUNITY CAME TO US MAYBE SIX MONTHS AGO ON IT.
THIS WAS PROPOSED IN FEBRUARY.
WE CAN PASS THIS TODAY TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE
INVESTED IN THIS AND GOING TO BE STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS AND
THAT WE CAN COME BACK ON MAY 2nd WITH THE APPOINTMENTS AND
WITH ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS.
THESE ARE MINOR SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES.
THIS DEALS WITH THE PROCEDURE.
1:44:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AGREE, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
LET'S GET IT DONE.
I APPRECIATE THE FACT YOU TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO DO THIS.
I THINK A LOT OF DETAILS WILL WORK OUT FOR THEMSELVES LIKE
EVERYTHING ELSE.
I THINK THIS IS A CAUTIONARY TALE AS WE LOOK AT BUDGET FOR
FISCAL '25, I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE FUNDS IN
THERE FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS, SOME FLEXIBILITY, SO AS WE

MOVE IN THROUGH FISCAL YEAR '25 WE ALLOCATE MONEY TO DO
THINGS LIKE THIS FOR THE FUTURE.
WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT WITH A STRONGER EYE NEXT YEAR THAN
WE DID THIS PAST YEAR.
1:45:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALSO LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN THANK
COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA FOR ALL THE WORK HE'S DONE ON THIS.
I THINK THIS IS A FRAMEWORK OF SOMETHING.
THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS OR SO IT WILL COME TOGETHER.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE DISCUSSING IDEAS AND THINGS TO DO.
BY THAT TIME WOULD HAVE THESE IDEAS IN PLACE AND DOWN IN
WRITING.
JUST MY FEELING.
1:45:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
JUST THE LAST COMMENT.
I DEFINITELY WANT TO SUPPORT IT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M READING IN DETAIL WHAT
SECTIONS.
THIS IS THE FIRST RESOLUTION OF THIS NATURE FOR ME AND I
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS AND THAT
EVEN I UNDERSTAND, WHEN I LOOK AT IT, JUST LIKE I DID WITH
SECTION 3, WHEN IT SAID THAT CITY COUNCIL SHALL APPROVE A
COMMITTEE AND PEOPLE WERE COMING FOR 43 MONTHS BEGGING US TO
DO THAT AND IT HAD NOT BEEN DONE IN 43 MONTHS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE CARDS ARE ON THE TABLE WHEN WE
ADDRESS THINGS SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE 13 MEMBERS.
HOPEFULLY THE STAFF THAT IS SELECTED FOR THIS WILL BE HAPPY

WITH SUPPORTING THIS COMMITTEE, PROVIDING THE MINUTES AND
SHARING THAT WITH US, COMPENSATED, FLEX TIME, WHATEVER IS
GIVEN IN THAT REGARD.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
1:46:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE
YOUR MOTION?
1:46:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, SIR.
I ALSO WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE ISSUE OF HISTORY.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON DIDN'T MEAN TO SAY THIS, BUT TO BE CLEAR,
IT IS NOT A HISTORICAL COMMITTEE.
DOESN'T DEAL WITH HISTORY.
WHEN I SAY WE HAVE TO MAKE HISTORICAL WRONGS RIGHT IN OUR
TIME.
THAT MEANS EFFECTS IN JUSTICE.
JUST LIKE THELMA 60 YEARS AGO, CHARLOTTESVILLE TODAY.
INJUSTICE CONTINUES TO PERMEATE ITSELF, NOT JUST DEEPLY
ROOTED IN HISTORICAL WRONGS BUT CURRENT DAY INJUSTICES THAT
CONTINUE TO BE A PAIN AND SOURCE OF PAIN FOR MARGINALIZED
COMMUNITIES TODAY.
THAT'S WHY I MOTIONED FOR THIS COMMITTEE, BECAUSE I FIRMLY
BELIEVE IN THAT.
I THINK THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
TWO THINGS, IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO MOTION TO PASS THIS
RESOLUTION.
1:47:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
1:47:39PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
THEN I WOULD MOTION FOR MAY 2, IS COUNCIL FINE WITH MAY 2?
1:47:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU WANT US TO BRING BACK OUR OWN
APPOINTMENTS MAY 2?
1:47:49PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
TO BE AUTHORIZED ON THAT DAY.
WHEN WE DISCUSS THAT, WE CAN UPDATE EVERYBODY ON WHAT WE
DISCUSSED WITH THE WEEDS.
1:48:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THAT'S TWO WEEKS AWAY.
IS THAT SUFFICIENT TIME FOR YOU TO CALL AND VET THE PEOPLE
WHO YOU'D WANT TO SERVE ON THE COMMITTEE?
1:48:11PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY 16 THEN.
1:48:18PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I'M JUST RAISING THE ISSUE.
1:48:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT IS THE CONSENSUS?
1:48:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MAY 16 SEEMS TO HAVE LESSER ITEMS THAN
MAY 2nd.
MAY 16 IS YOUR MOTION.
1:48:29PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NUMBER ONE, FOR MAY 16 FOR US TO HAVE OUR
PROPOSED MEMBERS FOR EXECUTION BY CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZATION
BY CITY COUNCIL AND THEN AT THAT TIME COUNSEL SHELBY AND I
CAN UPDATE COUNCIL ON THE WEEDS.

1:48:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE FOR THAT MEETING
BECAUSE I WILL BE IN CINCINNATI FOR THE CONGRESS FOR NEW
URBANISM.
CAN I GIVE MY NAME AHEAD OF TIME?
1:48:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU CAN WORK THROUGH KELLY.
1:48:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I'LL DO IT IN A MEMO THEN.
1:49:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT'S A MOTION.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MAY 16 IS THURSDAY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THE RESOLUTION HAS PASSED SO THE COMMITTEE WILL BE CREATED
AND THEN MAY 16 IS WHEN WE START MAKING THE APPOINTMENTS.
IT IS CREATED.
1:49:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHEN THE MAYOR SIGNS IT.
1:49:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BUT I SIGN IT.
SHE SIGNS IT.
1:49:36PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GUYS, IF I MAY, I DIDN'T INCLUDE IN THE
RESOLUTION ON THE FACILITATOR BEING POTENTIALLY PAID.
DID WE NEED TO AMEND THAT?
1:49:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
NO.
1:49:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT.

1:49:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THOUGHT WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION THAT IT
WOULD BE INCLUDED BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE THE MAYOR'S
SIGNATURE SO IT WOULD AUTHORIZE IT.
1:50:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE MAY NEED BUDGET --
WE'LL NEED A BUDGET FOR OTHER TYPES OF THINGS.
I WOULD RATHER ALLOCATE $50,000.
1:50:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANOTHER MEMO THAT THE MAYOR SIGNS.
1:50:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF THE MAYOR SIGNS THE RESOLUTION --
1:50:22PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
1:50:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU WANT.
WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SAY I MOVE -- COUNCILMAN VIERA --
1:50:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU NEED TO AMEND THAT.
1:50:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOT AMEND.
I WOULD HAVE A WHOLE SEPARATE ONE SAYING, HEY, WE ALSO WANT
TO PUT $50,000 INTO IT.
I JUST PULLED THAT NUMBER FROM AIR.
YOU ALL FIGURE IT OUT WHAT NUMBER.
1:50:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MY SUGGESTION IS, THINGS THAT THE ORDINANCE
NEEDS TO BE AMENDED, AS IT STANDS NOW, I BELIEVE IT IS
LEGALLY SUFFICIENT.
AND I WILL SUPPORT WORKING WITH THE COUNCILMAN TO BE ABLE TO
BRING BACK SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK.
1:50:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL SET.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 68.

WE HAVE A MEMO FROM MORRIS MASSEY.
MILLION AND A HALF DOLLAR ITEM.
1:51:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
MOVE 68 AND 69.
1:51:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR 68 AND 69 FROM
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCIL MEMBER HENDERSON.
YES, SIR, MR. MASSEY.
1:51:21PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
JUST HERE IF YOU ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS.
1:51:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
ANYTHING OVER X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
1:51:42PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHEN MY MOM WAS HERE A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO,
SHE TOOK THE TRAINS.
FLOORS WERE DIRTY, WINDOWS DIRTY, DAMAGE EVERYWHERE.
I HOPE THE STAFF WILL MOVE VERY QUICKLY.
1:51:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, THIS IS REGARDING UNION STATION.
1:51:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
IT IS BEAUTIFUL EVEN WITH IT BEING UGLY
BUT IT CAN BE MORE BEAUTIFUL.
1:52:09PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
1:52:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEMS NUMBER 70, 71, 72, THESE WERE
PULLED AND CONTINUED.
COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON, DID YOU MAKE THE MOTION OR COUNCIL
MEMBER HURTAK?

1:52:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
CAN I JUST SAY, I'VE HAD OTHER DISCUSSION
WITH STAFF SINCE THEN.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT THIS NOW.
I HOPE THAT WE CAN FIND A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO THIS IN THE
FUTURE.
I THINK THERE ARE ONLY LIKE A FEW IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
YEARS THAT WERE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND EACH.
BUT IN THE FUTURE I HOPE WE CAN AT LEAST EXCLUDE THE HUNDRED
THOUSAND PLUS ONES TO BE SEPARATELY VOTED ON.
FOR NOW I'M SATISFIED.
1:52:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU WANT TO MOVE 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, AND
75, IS THAT CORRECT?
1:53:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SURE.
1:53:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCIL MEMBER
CARLSON.
SECOND FROM CLENDENIN.
YEAH, FOR DISCUSSION.
1:53:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST BEFORE I HAD A MEETING WITH CHIEF OF
STAFF AND MR. ROGERO YESTERDAY, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS
KIND OF AT LENGTH.
WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IS WHILE IT HAS A GREAT EBO
PARTICIPATION FOR THE OVERALL CONTRACTORS, I WANT TO KNOW
ABOUT THE SUBCONTRACTORS.
I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHO THE SUBCONTRACTORS ARE
AND ALSO BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SIX OR SEVEN OF THEM, IF SOME

OF THOSE SUBCONTRACTORS COULD BE CONTRACTORS IN THEIR OWN
RIGHT, WE'RE HELPING SMALL BUSINESSES DEVELOP.
SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IT BE LARGER.
SO BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE.
AND CHIEF OF STAFF SAID THAT THEY WORK ON THAT, JUST KIND OF
PROVIDING US MORE INFORMATION AND MAKING SURE THAT THE SMALL
BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY GET A CHANCE FOR THESE SMALL
JOBS.
1:54:08PM >>JOHN BENNETT:
THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON WAS GOOD WITH HIS FEEDBACK AS WELL,
LOOKING AT OUR DIFFERENT THRESHOLDS IN DISTRIBUTION OF THIS
AS WE MOVE INTO THE NEXT PHASE.
THANK YOU.
1:54:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR?
AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THAT COVERS 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75.
BY BRINGS TO US ITEM NUMBER 81.
ITEM 81, YES, MA'AM.
1:54:43PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
DEANNA FAGGART, PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, PURCHASING DIRECTOR.
THERE IS A PRESENTATION, IF WE CAN BRING IT UP.
ONE THING I JUST NEED TO KNOW IS HOW TO ADVANCE THE SLIDE.

BACK IN DECEMBER, A MOTION WAS MADE TO DISCUSS WHETHER OR
NOT WE SHOULD REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF THREE BIDS FOR ANY
SOLICITATION DONE IN PURCHASING.
SO I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT TODAY AND JUST KIND OF GIVE
YOU SOME INFORMATION AROUND OUR PROCESSES AND THE DUE
DILIGENCE THAT WE DO WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE CURRENTLY.
DEANNA FAGGART, DIRECTOR OF PURCHASING.
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
1:55:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
1:55:54PM >>DEANNA FAGGART:
SO IT IS PURCHASING'S OBJECTIVE TO FOSTER
FAIR AND OPEN COMPETITION.
WE DO A LOT OF OUTREACH TO OUR BIDDER COMMUNITY.
WE CAST THE WIDEST NET THAT WE CAN POSSIBLE.
WE DO VENDOR TRADE SHOWS AND PARTICIPATE IN THE EBO
ORIENTATION PROGRAM.
IT ABSOLUTELY IS OUR INTENTION TO GET THREE OR AS MANY BIDS
AS WE CAN.
OCCASIONALLY THERE IS A SITUATION WHERE WE CANNOT.
IT MIGHT BE A SPECIALIZED ITEM, CHEMICALS, ASPHALT OR
SOMETHING THAT HAS A GEOGRAPHIC RESTRICTION WHERE IT HAS TO
BE CLOSE ENOUGH THAT THE PRODUCT STAYS WARM.
THERE ARE A LOT OF REASONS VERY SPECIALIZED ITEMS WHERE
THERE MAY BE A LIMITED NUMBER OF SUPPLIERS OF THOSE ITEMS.
ANYTIME THAT WE CAN, WE REACH OUT TO AS MANY AS WE CAN.
IT IS OUR INTENTION TO JUST BE AS STRATEGIC AS POSSIBLE.

WE WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE DEPARTMENTS.
WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT OUR PROCESSES TO SEE HOW WE CAN BE
MORE EFFICIENT.
JUST TRYING TO NURTURE THE ORGANIZATIONAL GROWTH AND KEEP
EVERYTHING MOVING FORWARD.
OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR VENDORS SHOULD ALWAYS BE MUTUALLY
BENEFICIAL.
WE DO A LOT OF MARKET RESEARCH AS WELL.
WE LOOKED TO SEE WHAT SORT OF BARRIERS MIGHT BE IN THE
MARKET.
SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES WITH THE AUTOMOBILES.
THERE WERE STRIKES RECENTLY THAT AFFECTED DELIVERY.
THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE TRY TO RESEARCH THOSE AND BE AWARE.
JUST LOOK AND SEE WHAT NEW TECHNOLOGY IS OUT THERE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS AND I'LL TRY TO KIND OF KEEP IT
BRIEF, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS WE DO IN ADVANCE TO
KIND OF PREPARE.
SO IF WE CAN GO --
THERE ARE ALSO ORDINANCES IN OUR MANUAL, OUR POLICY THAT WE
HAVE TO FOLLOW, DOCUMENTED THINGS THAT KEEP US ON TRACK.
THERE IS ALSO THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF GOVERNMENT
PURCHASING, WHICH WAS FOUNDED IN 1944.
AND THAT'S A RESOURCE THAT WE HAVE THAT PROMOTES INDUSTRY
PRACTICES, PROVIDES TRAINING, CERTIFICATION.

YOU'LL NOTICE THAT OUR STAFF, A LOT OF US HAVE LETTERS AFTER
OUR NAMES.
WE'RE HIGHLY CERTIFIED STAFF, AND WE DO A LOT OF CONTINUING
EDUCATION.
AND WE ACTUALLY EARNED SCHOLARSHIPS TO DO SO.
WE DON'T BUDGET FOR TRAINING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT WE DO THROUGH NIGP AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS GO AND OBTAIN
CERTIFICATION TRAINING, ALL OF THOSE THINGS JUST TO STAY UP
ON THE TIMES.
SO OUR CYCLE OF SOURCING REALLY STARTS WITH COLLABORATING
WITH THE END USER DEPARTMENTS AND SEEING WHAT THEIR NEEDS
ARE.
WE RELY ON THEM TO BE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO LET US
KNOW WHAT THEY NEED.
AND THEN WHEN THEY SEND US A SPECIFICATION OR A STATEMENT OF
WORK, WE DO GO THROUGH AND DO A PREREVIEW.
WE LOOK FOR RESTRICTIVE LANGUAGE.
WE LOOK TO SEE THAT THEY HAVEN'T INCLUDED A SPECIFICATION
THAT IS SPECIFIC TO ONE VENDOR OR CREATED A RESTRICTION
THAT'S UNNECESSARY THAT MIGHT BE GEOGRAPHIC OR OTHERWISE IN
NATURE.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE BEEN TRAINED TO LOOK FOR AND
THEN WE WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT ON CREATING THE BEST
DOCUMENT THAT WE CAN.
WE WORK WITH THEM ALSO ON DEVELOPING OUR BIDDERS LIST.
A LOT OF TIMES BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS,
THEY KNOW WHO IS IN THAT INDUSTRY.
WHO IS IN THE AREA.
WHO CAN PROVIDE THOSE.
WE HAVE OUTREACH.
WE STILL DO NEWSPAPER ADVERTISEMENTS.
SO WE ROTATE THREE LOCAL PAPERS.
I AM NOT SURE WHO IS STILL READING THOSE, BUT WE DO.
AND THEN WE ALSO DO BROADCAST THROUGH TWO DIFFERENT NATIONAL
DATABASES TO, YOU KNOW, REACH AS MANY VENDORS AS WE CAN.
AND WE ALSO WORK WITH EBO TO LOOK AT THE LIST OF POTENTIAL
VENDOR AND MAKE SURE WE ARE ALWAYS INCLUDING THEM, WHETHER
IT BE A SHELTER MARKET OR NOT.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE INCLUDING THEM IN OUR OUTREACH.
SO WE DO -- ONCE WE RECEIVE OUR BIDS IN, WE DO OUR DUE
DILIGENCE.
MAKE SURE THEY ARE RESPONSIVE AND RESPONSIBLE.
RESPONSIVE THAT THEY HAVE SUBMITTED ALL THE PROPER
DOCUMENTATION.
THE PERSON WHO SIGNED IS AUTHORIZED TO DO SO.
THEY HAVE SUBMITTED INSURANCE AND ALL OF THAT.
AWL THE EBO FORMS AND "RESPONSIBLE" MEANS THEY CAN -- YOU
THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES TO ACTUALLY DO THE JOB.
WE DO THAT DUE DILIGENCE.
WE LOOK AT EVERY BIDDER TO MAKE SURE THEY MEET THAT
CRITERIA.
IF WE HAPPEN TO GET A SINGLE BID RESPONSE, WHERE ONLY ONE
BIDDER HAS RESPONDED, WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH.
WE LOOK AT HOW MANY VENDORS DOWNLOADED THE BID.
THEN WE WILL DO OUTREACH TO MULTIPLE VENDORS TO ASK THEM WHY
DIDN'T YOU BID, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS SOMEBODY WHO ENGAGED IN
-- MAYBE THEY ASKED A QUESTION BECAUSE THE ONLINE SYSTEM
THAT WE UTILIZE HAS A PORTAL THAT THEY CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS.
WE ANSWER THEM.
OFTENTIMES, THE QUESTION WILL BE SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T
REALIZED OR THOUGHT OF, AND WE MAY ISSUE AN ADDENDUM, MAKE A
CORRECTION, OR EVEN JUST A CLARIFICATION.
THERE IS AN ENTIRE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH SO IF WE HAVE
SUBMITTED A QUESTION, WE DEFINITELY MAKE SURE WE HAVE
OUTREACH AND SAY, HEY, IS THERE A REASON YOU DIDN'T BID.
A LOT OF TIMES WE WILL GET ANSWERS LIKE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE
GRAVITY TO TAKE ON A CITY CONTRACT.
OR, YOU KNOW -- A LOT OF TIMES IS WE ALREADY HAVE CITY
CONTRACTS.
WE CAN'T TAKE ANOTHER.
IF THEY COME BACK AND THEY SAY, WELL, YOUR SPEC WAS
RESTRICTIVE AND IF YOU HAD -- IF IT WAS MORE BROAD, WE WOULD
HAVE RESPONDED, THAT IS THE TRIGGER FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND
REBID THAT.
AND THEN WITH THE WORDS ON TOP OF THAT, I CAN'T SEE WHAT
THAT IS, BUT I THINK IT IS TALKING OF US, OUR AWARD.
02:02:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
AWARD FOR THE LOWEST POSSIBLE BIDDER AND
CONTRACT MANAGEMENT.
02:02:47PM >>DEANNA FAGGART:
THANK YOU.
YEAH, BASICALLY IF WE AWARD TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE AND
RESPONSIBLE BIDDER FOR A BID, OR THE BEST VALUE PROPOSAL,
PROPOSALS DO ALLOW US TO EVALUATE BIDDERS BASED CONDITION OR
PROPOSERS BASED ON OTHER THINGS THAN PRICE.
PRICE IS TYPICALLY WEIGHTED, ALONG WITH EBO PARTICIPATION OR
OTHER THINGS.
IT CAN BE REFERENCES, EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY OF
THE PROPOSAL THAT THEY SUBMITTED.
WE EVALUATE THOSE THROUGH A COMMITTEE PROCESS.
AND THEN WE GO ON WITH CONTRACT MONITORING AND SUPPLIER
MANAGEMENT.
RIGHT.
SO WE CONTINUE THAT RELATIONSHIP.
THE DEPARTMENTS PICK IT UP BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT
INTERACT MOST FREQUENTLY, BUT IF THEY HAVE ISSUES, THEY NEED
TO ONE, DOCUMENT THEM.
TWO, GET US INVOLVED WHEN THEY CAN'T REACH A RESOLUTION.
WE CAN, YOU KNOW, COME IN AS A NEUTRAL PARTY AND KIND OF
ASSESS.
IT DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN, BUT WHEN IT DOES, WE, AS WELL
AS POTENTIALLY EBO, IF IT IS A CITY-CERTIFIED VENDOR, WILL
COME IN AND MEDIATE THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WE DO EVALUATE AT THE END AS -- PROBABLY ABOUT FIVE
MONTHS BEFORE IS WHEN WE START OUR PROCESS FOR RENEWING OR
REBIDDING.
WE REACH OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT.
AND WE SAY, HOW IS THE VENDOR DOING?
ARE YOU HAPPY WITH THEM?
DO YOU WANT TO RENEW?
WE ALSO SAY THEY POTENTIALLY COULD REQUEST THIS AMOUNT OF
A CIP INCREASE.
WE LET THEM KNOW AHEAD OF TIME WHAT THE MARKET LOOKS LIKE.
WHAT THE CPI IS.
IF THEY COME BACK AND SAY THEY WANT TO RENEW, WE REACH OUT
TO THE VENDOR AND SAY DO YOU WANT TO RENEW?
WE DON'T ALWAYS TELL THEM -- NOT INCLUDED IN THE
NOTIFICATION THAT WE SEND ABOUT WHETHER THEY ARE ENTITLED TO
A CPI.
WE WAIT FOR THEM TO TELL US THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT SO IF THE
POTENTIAL -- THE ITEM REACHES A NEW LIFE, WE ARE RESPONSIBLE
FOR SURPLUS DISPOSAL.
WE WILL SEE THINGS TRULY THROUGH FROM INCEPTION TO DISPOSAL.
OKAY.
SO WE CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, ALREADY DO EXTENSIVE RESEARCH ON
HOW OTHER ENTITIES DO THINGS.
WE ARE ATTENDING LUNCHES AND CONFERENCES WITH OTHER PEOPLE
WHO DO THE SAME NOBODY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY MY THIRD CITY THAT I HAVE WORKED FOR.
SO WE HAVE NETWORKS OF PEOPLE.
OFTENTIMES WE WILL REACH OUT AND SAY, HEY, HAVE YOU EVER BID
THIS?
CAN WE SEE YOUR SECOND?
WHAT KIND OF RESULTS DID YOU GET?
WE ALSO ASK, DO YOU KNOW OF ANY SUPPLIERS, YOU KNOW, WE
AREN'T AWARE OF.
THAT IS OFTEN A GOOD RESOURCE FOR US.
SO WE DID GO AND LOOK AT NATIONALLY, YOU KNOW, AND
SPECIFICALLY LOCALLY IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS REQUIREMENT FOR
THREE BIDS.
I SPOKE TO MANY PEOPLE MYSELF, AND I ALSO HAD A STAFF MEMBER
WORKING ON IT.
THE ONLY ONE WE FOUND THAT ACTUALLY HAD A WRITTEN
REQUIREMENT WAS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
BUT WITHIN IT, IT HAD AN EXCEPTION WRITTEN THAT AS LONG AS
THEY SAID THEY HAD REACHED OUT TO EVERY VENDOR THEY WERE
AWARE OF, THAT THEY COULD THEN GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.
SO THEY HAD BASICALLY DOCUMENTED THEIR PROCESS.
AND SO EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS THEY ARE REQUIRING THREE BIDS,
YOU KNOW, THEY ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES,
THERE ISN'T A THIRD BIDDER OUT THERE.
SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, STATE OF FLORIDA, HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY, PINELLAS, CITY OF ST. PETE, CITY OF ORLANDO, MIAMI,
AND JACKSON, NONE OF THEM HAVE THIS REQUIREMENT.
THOSE ARE ALL ENTITIES WE SPECIFICALLY REACHED OUT TO SAY,
HOW DO YOU HANDLE THIS?
AND, YOU KNOW, THEIR EXPERIENCE IS VERY SIMILAR TO OURS.
AND THE DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS IS SIMILAR TO OURS.
FOR ME, IT WAS REASSURING TO KNOW THAT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS
IN LINE WITH WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING WITH WHAT THE BEST
PRACTICES ARE.
SO IN FY '23, WE BROADCAST 187 SOLICITATIONS.
WE GET BACK AN AVERAGE OF 2.9 RESPONSES PER SOLICITATION.
54% OF THE TIME WE DID RECEIVE LESS THAN THREE, MEANING ONE
OR TWO OR ZERO THAT OCCASIONALLY HAPPENS.
WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THREE BIDDERS AVAILABLE.
WE DO THE DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS AND DETERMINE IF SOMETHING
THAT WE CAN GET MORE THAN ONE OR TWO BIDDER IT IS WE DO IT
AGAIN.
IF WE CHANGE SOMETHING, THEN WE WILL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
IF WE THINK WE HAVE EXPLORED ALL OF OUR OPTIONS AND THIS IS
THE BEST DECISION FOR THE CITY, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH
THAT CURRENTLY.
WE ALSO HAVE THE EBO PROGRAM WHICH IN ORDER TO PROVIDE
OPPORTUNITIES TO UNDERUTILIZED SMALL, LOCAL MINORITY-OWNED
WOMEN-OWNED BUSINESSES, WE HAVE OUR REMELTING PROGRAM IF WE
HAVE AT LEAST THREE BIDDER WHO ARE CITY CERTIFIED AND CAN
PROVIDE THIS PRODUCT, WE WILL SHELTER AND ONLY REQUIRE BIDS
FROM THOSE PARTICULAR VENDORS.
AND WE HAVE GOAL SET -- YOU KNOW CONTRACT ADMIN USES MORE
FREQUENTLY THAN PURCHASING DOES AND BID DISCOUNT IS AN
OPTION.
IF WE ARE OUTSIDE OF THE PARAMETERS OF THE EBO PROGRAM, THE
CONTRACT IS LARGER THAN WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT SHELTERING
ORDINANCE.
THAN OFTENTIMES, EBO RECOMMENDS THAT WE DO DISCOUNT.
IF A CITY CERTIFIED VENDOR DOES BUSINESS, WE WILL EVALUATE
THEIR PROPOSAL PRICE AS 5% LESS THAN ANYBODY ELSE'S.
WE ARE BASICALLY SAYING WE ARE WILLING TO PAY UP TO 5% MORE
IN THIS CASE IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, BID THAT TO UP WITH OF
THE UNDERUTILIZED BUSINESSES.
ON ALL OF OUR PROPOSALS THAT THEY MENTIONED, WE DO SET ASIDE
20 POINTS FOR EBO VENDORS.
THIS CAN BE THE PRIME PERSON WHO IS RESPONDING OR POINTS
ALLOCATED ON SUBCONTRACTING THAT THEY HAVE INDICATED IN
THOSE FORMS.
EBO HAS A FORMULA THEY UTILIZE TO ASSESS THOSE PROPOSALS
AND GIVE THOSE POINTS.
ALL RIGHT, I DID REACH OUT TO THE ELECTRONIC BIDDING SYSTEMS
THAT WE UTILIZE.
UNI SOLUTIONS ACTUALLY OWNS MULTIPLE E PROCUREMENT SYSTEMS
AND THEY GATHER DATA FOR US SPECIFICALLY AND THEY SAID IN A
STURDY OF OVER 76,000 SOLICITATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY BY
VARIOUS PUBLIC ENTITIES, 18,000 OF THEM RECEIVED -- IS THAT
ONE OR TWO?
I THINK THAT IS ONE OR TWO BID RESPONSES.
02:10:14PM >> ONE.
02:10:15PM >> I AM SORRY, ONE.
I SEE THE FIRST PART.
18,000 OF THEM SPEED OF ONE AND YOU CAN SEE 12400 RECEIVED
TWO BIDS AND SO ON.
SO THE DATA DOES SHOW THAT THEY ARE GETTING ONE OR TWO BIDS.
TO REQUIRE THREE BIDS IS NOT ALWAYS FEASIBLE.
POTENTIAL LEGAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS IF WE CREATE THIS
RESTRICTION.
WE HAVE TO REBUILD EVERY TIME WE RECEIVE LESS THAN THREE
BIDS, WE WOULD BE CREATING A CUMBERSOME PROCESS THAT WILL
COST US TIME AND MONEY.
YOU KNOW, WOULD DELAY CITY PROJECTS, POTENTIALLY IMPORTANT
PROJECTS THAT ARE CRITICAL OF CITY SERVICE LEVELS THAT
NECESSARILY WOULDN'T BE MET ON TIME.
MORE EMERGENCIES WILL ARISE.
WOULD ALSO RESULT IN PREMIUM COST INCREASES ANY TIME THAT WE
ARE DOING SOMETHING SHORT NOTICE, EMERGENCY, YOU KNOW,
WEEKENDS AND ALL OF THAT.
THERE IS A PREMIUM THAT IS PAID FOR THOSE COSTS.
AND THERE REALLY IS NO GUARANTEE WE WILL GET ADDITIONAL
BIDS.
ONE NEGATIVE POTENTIAL IMPACT TO THE BIDDERS THAT THEY WILL
BECOME FRUSTRATED WITH OUR PROCESS AND POTENTIALLY STOP
BIDDING.
WE WOULD NEED THE RESIDUAL RESULT WE WERE LOOKING
FOR. ALL RIGHT, OUR DEPARTMENT HAS AN ESTABLISHED STANDARD
OF EXCELLENCE.
WE ARE DEDICATED PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE, CERTIFIED STAFF,
MANY NUMBERS OF EXPERIENCE.
MULTIPLE EMPLOYEES IN OUR DEPARTMENT ARE 20-YEAR, 30-YEAR
CITY EMPLOYEES WITH GREAT EXPERIENCE AND CREDENTIALS.
AND 17 CONSECUTIVE YEARS IN A ROW AND WE ARE WORKING NOW TO
SUBMIT OUR DOCUMENTATION, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
THAT IS SOMETHING TO CARRY ON AND CONTINUE.
IT IS A NATIONAL PROGRAM AND EARMARK BEST PRACTICES.
WE HAVE TO DOCUMENT OUR PROCESSES, SEND THEM IN AND IT IS
EVALUATED AND THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE UPDATED EVERY YEAR.
NOT THE SAME APPLICATION EVERY YEAR.
NOT THAT WE ARE RESUBMITTING THE DOCUMENTATION.
THEY UPDATE THAT CRITERIA AND WE HAVE TO GET 100 POINTS.
SO AS TIMES CHANGE, TECHNOLOGY CHANGES, DIFFERENT THINGS,
YOU KNOW, THEY LOOK AT THOSE BEST PRACTICES AND RATE US
AGAINST THEM.
STAY WITH THE CITIES INTERNALLY AND EXTERNAL AUDITING.
WE HAVE NO SIGNIFICANT AUDIT FINDINGS.
WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH FIVE AUDITS IN THE LAST TEN YEARS AND
ANNUALLY WE GO THROUGH THE EXTERNAL AUDIT AS WELL WITH NO
SIGNIFICANT FINDINGS.
WE HAVE FUTURE INITIATIVES WE ARE WORKING ON.
THE BIGGEST ONE I THINK THAT WILL HAVE THE BIGGEST IMPACT IS
THE NEW PROCUREMENT SYSTEM WE ARE LOOKING TO MOVE FORWARD.
MY INTENTION WITH THAT IS STREAMLINE THE PROCESS, STREAMLINE
THE DOCUMENT, DEVELOP A CREATION.
WHEN WE GO THROUGH RIGHT NOW, WE ARE MODIFYING A WORD
DOCUMENT.
WE ARE HAVING TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE FROM EVERY SINGLE
CLAUSE IN THAT WE PUT OUT.
THIS PROCUREMENT SOFTWARE WILL GIVE A SERIES OF QUESTIONS
AND SO THE BUYERS WILL ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND WILL ANSWER
THOSE QUESTIONS.
WILL SEE IT THROUGH THE INITIAL REQUEST TO THE END OF THE
PROCESS.
IF THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT, IT WILL FOLLOW THROUGH ALL THE
WAY THROUGH THE AGREEMENT AND IT WILL ALSO MAKE DOCUMENTS
AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
AND WE DON'T NEED TO DO AS MANY PUBLIC RECORD REQUESTS.
POINT PEOPLE BACK TO THE WEB SITE TO PULL DOWN THE
DOCUMENTS.
THAT WILL SAVE US A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.
02:14:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THIS IS YOUR MOTION.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN HAS A QUESTION.
02:14:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MINE WILL BE FAST.
EXCELLENT PRESENTATION AND EARLIER DISCUSSIONS AND OBVIOUSLY
THE TEAMS HAVE BEEN AWARDED FOR THEIR PROCESSES AND
ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN THE PAST.
KUDOS FOR THAT.
DO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MY OWN SENSE OF WELL BEING.
WITHIN THE PROCUREMENT DEPARTMENTS, DO YOU ALL HAVE A FORMAL
PROCESS OR REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING WHERE EMPLOYEES IF WE
HAD -- YOU KNOW, THE BEST SOURCE.
AND IDENTIFIED MAYBE WILL BE ABLE TO SOLICIT BID TO GET MORE
RESPONSES.
DO YOU HAVE A PROCESS FOR EMPLOYEE TO GET THAT UP TO A
DECISION MAKER OR DO YOU HAVE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS
FOR EMPLOYEES GET TOGETHER IF THEY SAID, A-HA, I CAN DO THIS
AND GET MORE BIDDERS.
IS THAT PROCESS IN PLACE IN THIS DEPARTMENT?
02:15:34PM >> SO WE HAVE REGULAR INTERNAL MEETINGS, AS WELL AS INTERNAL
TRAINING SESSIONS.
AND THREE OR FOUR WEEKS DEPENDING ON CALENDARS WE GET THE
DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER AND LOOK AT IF THERE IS A TOPIC THAT WE
PREPARED SOME SORT OF TRAINING FOR AS FAR AS OPEN DISCUSSION
WITH THE STAFF AND ALL OF THAT.
I ALSO HAVE A PURCHASE SYSTEMS MANAGER ON MY TEAM.
SO THAT POSITION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LOOKING AT TECHNOLOGY
AND ADMINISTERING, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT BE TESTING NEW
PRODUCTS OR FIXES TO OLD PRODUCTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND DEDICATED TO LATE TECHNOLOGY STUFF.
02:16:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MID MUM OF THREE BIDDERS ARE NOT REQUIRED.
ANY COMPARISON OF BEST PRACTICES.
COMPARE WITH WHAT WE ARE DOING OR ONE-BID BIDDER CONTRACTS
AND TWO-BIDDER CONTRACTS AT THOSE LOCALITY.
MAYBE THEY ARE DOING WORSE THAN US.
MAYBE WE ARE THE EXAMPLE.
HAVE WE DONE ANY COMPARATIVE STUFF OF BEST PRACTICES FROM
THESE GROUPS.
02:17:04PM >>DEANNA FAGGART:
MOST WERE NOT ACTUALLY TRACKING THEIR
PERCENTAGES, RIGHT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY CAME AND SAID, HOW DO YOU HANDLE
THIS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY DOCUMENTED, YOU KNOW, LANGUAGE IN YOUR
POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR THIS.
AND DO YOU HAVE ANY METRIC.
NOBODY ELSE DID.
THIS IS HOW I GO TO UNA AND PULL DATA FOR US ON WHAT THE
NATIONAL AVERAGES ARE AND ALL THAT.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE INTERNALLY, MOST OF THEM ARE NOT ACTUALLY
TRACKING THAT.
02:17:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I ONLY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A YEAR BUT MY
COMMENT IS WE HAVE STELLAR STAFF AND ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
I DON'T DOUBT THAT HAPPENS.
JUST FOR MY OWN REASONS, BECAUSE WE DISCUSS THIS AND WE --
OF COURSE, EVERYBODY WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MULTIPLE BIDDERS ON
EVERYTHING.
I WOULD TOO.
AND THAT IS THE GOAL.
I WANTED TO GET THIS FOR MY OWN SELF.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU
DO.
02:18:05PM >>DEANNA FAGGART:
THANK YOU.
02:18:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:18:07PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU TO ALL THE STAFF THAT PUT THIS
TOGETHER IN TWO ROUNDS.
IT WAS A LOT OF WOULD, TO DO, RESEARCH AND EVERYTHING.
I AM SURPRISED THAT THERE WERE NO ARGUMENTS MADE IN FAVOR OF
THREE BIDS, BUT THE INFORMATION WAS OUT THERE.
PARALLEL TO WHAT THEY DID, I HIRED MY OWN RESEARCHER THAT I
PAID FOR MYSELF TO CALL THE TOP TEN COUNTIES AND TOP TEN
CITIES IN FLORIDA.
AND I ONLY FOUND ONE THAT HAS THIS -- AND IT HAS MIAMI-DADE.
AND HERE IS -- HERE IS A HIGHLIGHTED FORM.
AND I WILL GIVE THIS TO -- TO THE CLERK.
AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE SECOND PAGE, IT IS A MEMO FROM THE
HEAD OF PROCUREMENT.
THE -- 9 THING IS THAT -- AND I ALSO WENT TO THE TRADE
ASSOCIATION WEB SITES AND OTHER THINGS.
THE THING IS, IN THE PRIVATE SECT THEY ARE IS A VERY COMMON
THING.
YOU TALK TO PRIVATE PEOPLE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR THEY ARE
APPALLED THAT AN CONTRACT DOES NOT HAVE THREE BIDS.
THIS IS CONTRACT.
HAVE WE PUT UP HANNA AVENUE FOR A BID WOULD SAVE 5% WHICH IS
MORE THAN MILLION DOLLARS AND IF WE PUT FAIR OAKS OUT FOR
BID.
AND WE SAVE 10%, THAT WOULD HAVE EQUALLED THE AMOUNT THAT IS
SPENT ON ROAD REPAIR.
AND SO I THINK IT IS WORTH DOING THAT.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR, IF I CAN JUST
THROW IT OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A LONG DISCUSSION THIS.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO PRESENT LEGAL STAFF
WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE ON JUNE 27 THAT WILL REQUIRE
PURCHASING, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND REAL ESTATE TO GET
BIDS FOR ITEMS THAT EXCEED $5 MILLION.
I PUT IN "5 MILLION" UNDERSTANDING THE POINTS SHE MAKES OF
THE COST OF STAFF AND TIME GOING THROUGH, ANALYZING SMALLER
BIDS MAY NOT BE WORTH IT.
THIS STUDY SHOWS THAT MIAMI-DADE MAY DO THAT.
THE ONES ABOVE $5 MILLION, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO.
AN OBLIGATION OF THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING
BIDS.
FOR SURE AN ORDINANCE WILL HAVE CAVEATS IN THERE ABOUT
CHEMICALS ONLY MADE BY ONE COMPANY AND THAT KIND OF THING,
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO SET AN EXPECTATION AT LEAST FOR
PROBLEMS ABOVE $5 MILLION, I WOULD LIKE THE PROJECT TO BE
SMALLER.
PROJECTS BELOW $5 MILLION, WE WOULD HAVE A MINUTE MUM BID.
02:20:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
I WOULD SECOND IT.
02:20:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION.
02:20:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMEMBER -- WE HAD A SECOND.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAD HIS HAND UP.
02:20:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEAR WHAT A I AM
SAYING.
$5 MILLION.
THREE BIDS.
SOUND GREAT.
LET ME PUT THIS INTO PRACTICE.
I DISCUSSED?
WITH NOBODY INCLUDING MYSELF AND USUALLY I QUESTION MYSELF.
NOW YOU HAVE A CITY IN NEED OF ROADWORK.
A WHOLE HELL OF A LOT OF ROADWORK.
NOT ONLY MYSELF AND THE OTHER SIX COUNCILMEMBERS BEFORE WE
GO ANYWHERE THAT IS WHAT WE HEAR ABOUT THE ROADS.
NUMBER ONE WHAT WE HEAR.
HOW MANY CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THAT DO THIS TPD OF WORK BID
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA IN THE PAST?
02:21:36PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
GOOD AFTERNOON, JEAN DUNCAN, ADMINISTRATOR
FOR MOBILITY.
02:21:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IS IT FIVE OR SIX?
02:21:44PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC ANSWER.
02:21:46PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE CITY HAS TO BE DECIDED IN TWO
SECTIONS.
YOU CAN'T JUST PAY JUST ONE OR TWO CONTRACTORS.
THE FIRST TIME DONE THIS AND STRETCHING OUT THE FACTS.
OVER 2,000 MILES OF PAVED ROADS IN THE CITY.
AM I CORRECT -- SOMEWHERE IN THAT VICINITY.
02:22:03PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
YES.
02:22:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE A CONTRACT OFFICER
IT IS THE LOW BIDDER FOR THE CITY?
02:22:11PM >> DEPENDS ON THE STAFF WE HAVE AND THEIR STAFF.
IT VERY LONG TIME CERTAINLY.
02:22:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF ROADS.
I AM NOT A CONTRACTOR AND NOT AS SMART OF ANY MEMBER HERE.
NOT AS PART AS WE ARE.
WE HAVE THE ROADS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF ASPHALT AND
SHELVES UNDER THAT AND THE BASE, AM I CORRECT?
02:22:34PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
YES.
02:22:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT HAPPENS PAST THE SHALES, YOU HAVE TO
LIFT IT UP?
02:22:40PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
THAT'S CORRECT.
02:22:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE NOT TALKED TO NO ONE IN
CONSTRUCTION.
THE COST IS WHAT THEN.
02:22:46PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
REBUILDING AND REPAVING.
02:22:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
IF YOU REPAVE, YOU WILL HAVE TO REBUILD
IF THEY GOT PAST THE SHELVES.
NO ONE HAS EVER THOUGHT OF THAT HAVE THEY?
02:22:56PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
EXPONENTIAL DIFFERENCE IN COST OF REPAVING
AND LIKE YOU SAID REBUILDING THE SUBSTRUCTURE.
QUITE A DIFFERENT COST.
02:23:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT DOES NOT GO TO A DIFFERENT LEVEL WHERE WE PAY TWICE AS
MUCH FOR SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE PAID LONG AGO.
THESE ARE THE THINGS I AM THINKING ABOUT.
I AM WONDER GOING THE LOWEST BIDDER -- IS IT BID OUT BY THE
WHOLE CITY OR SECTIONS OF THE CITY?
I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S WHY I AM ASKING.
02:23:27PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
WE DON'T BID OUT BY EXCEPTIONS UNLESS THE
PROBABLY IS COVERING THAT AREA.
AND I JUST WANTED TO SORT OF -- DIFFERENT ISSUE BETWEEN A
BID AND A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR RFQ.
TWO DIFFERENT PROCESSES THAT ARE KIND OF GETTING MINGLED.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE SPEAKING OF ONE OTHER THE
OTHER.
BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER.
PURCHASING.
CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
PROCURE IN TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
02:23:53PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FOR MY OWN MIND, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION
A CHECK TO ABOUT SOMETHING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT?
02:24:01PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
NO?
02:24:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WHAT IS CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION DOING?
WHO CHECKS ON THE ROAD TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS THE INTENT OF
THE CONTRACT?
02:24:10PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
THAT WILL BE AN INSPECTOR ON A CONTRACT.
02:24:12PM >>MORRIS MASSEY:
MORRIS MASSEY, LOWELL DEPARTMENT.
YOU DID WANT TO SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION ALSO ACQUIRES SERVICES --
ENGINEERING, ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES.
THEY ARE MANDATED BY DATE LAW TO GO TO THE CCNA WHICH IS NOT
A PURE BID PROCESS.
ANOTHER THING RELATIVE TO REAL ESTATE.
IF ANY PROPERTY ARE LOCATED WITH THE CRA, THEY ARE REARED TO
DO A RFP, NOT A STRAIGHT BID.
IF THE CITY IS SELLING PROPERTY OR TRYING TO SEEK THE
DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY, WE ARE NOT ALWAYS INTERESTED IN
GETTING THE BEST PRICE.
WE ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT WILL BE BUILT.
HOW THAT WILL IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
FOR INSTANCE, WE RECENTLY TO PUT ON AN RFP FOR EXTENDING THE
MUSEUM.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T -- WE GET TO AN RFP PROCESS.
WE HAVE TO GO TO THE RFP PROCESS AND THE MUSEUM IS LOCATED
DOWNTOWN AND WE DON'T -- BECAUSE SOMEBODY MIGHT COME IN,
OFFER MORE THAN A MUSEUM WOULD FOR THAT PROPERTY, WE DON'T
NECESSARILY WANT TO AWARD THE CONTRACT TO THAT PARTY OF I
JUST WANT -- IT BECOMES DIFFICULT TO SAY DO IT BY BID AND
AWARD IT TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER.
02:25:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM NOT A GENIUS AT THIS.
I DON'T KNOW MAYBE OTHERS MIGHT BE, BUT I AM NOT.
I ADMIT IT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE CITY DOES NOT
HAPPEN IN ANOTHER AREA BECAUSE OF THE THREE BIDS.
02:25:40PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
CAN I MAKE A QUICK COMMENT.
THREE BIDS IF YOU ARE BIDDING A CONTRACT FOR SERVICES LIKE
DEANNA WOULD DO OR CONSTRUCTION.
OR DOING A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS WHICH IS A PROPOSAL
PROCESS THROUGH THE CCNA, EITHER ONE, IF WE REFLECT THE
NUMBER OF PROPOSALS AND THE NUMBER BID WE HAVE TO HAVE, WE
ARE TYING OUR HANDS BECAUSE A LOT OF BIDS DEPEND ON THE
MARKET CONDITIONS, LABOR AVAILABILITY AND OTHER FACTORS WITH
THE CONTRACTORS OUT THERE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY OF
THE CONTRACTORS SUBMITTING A BID AND PROPOSAL FOR IT.
02:26:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO GLAD YOU SAID THAT BECAUSE IT HIT MY
MIND.
I REMEMBER BACK IN JUNE OF 2016, BID WENT OUT ON MOWING, I
REMEMBER.
I GOT INVOLVED LOOKING AT IT.
I MAY STILL HAVE THE RECORD.
I MIGHT HAVE THRONE IT AWAY.
THE LOWEST BID GOT THE JOB AND THE SECOND AND THIRD WITHIN
$5,000.
THE FOURTH BID WAS WAY OUT OF LINE.
THEY AWARD IT TO THE LOWEST BIDDER.
GUESS WHAT HAPPENED FOUR MONTHS LATER, THE LOWEST BIDDER
COULDN'T MEET THE DEMAND THAT HE OR SHE SIGNED FOR.
AND THE SECOND AND THIRD BIDDER WE FOUND OUT LATER ON WERE
THE SAME KIND OF PEOPLE WITH THE SAME EMPLOYEES.
YOU HAVE TO LIST THE EMPLOYEES.
THAT IS HOW YOU LEARN THAT.
I THINK THAT IS WHAT IT WAS.
THE FOURTH BIDDER WHO HAD IT ORIGINALLY AND WE HAD TO HIRE
THE FIRST BIDDER FOR WHAT THE FIRST BIDDER DID.
IT WAS LOST TIME.
I AM NOT SAYING IT HAPPENS AT OVER BID, BUT THE POSSIBILITY
EXISTS THAT THE LOWEST BIDDER IS NOT THE BEST BID.
ONE EXAMPLE.
BUT I WILL THAT, WHEN YOU DRAW UP THAT SUBJECT MATTER AND MY
MIND OPENED UP A BIT AND I THOUGHT I REMEMBER JUNE -- YOU
DON'T BELIEVE ME.
CHECK IT OUT.
JUNE OF '14.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:27:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:27:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I HAVE A QUESTION.
$5 MILLION IS A GOOD NUMBER.
I JUST WANT TO ASK HOW MANY EVER GOODS AND SERVICES WOULD
THAT IMPACT, ON AVERAGE.
02:28:05PM >> PURCHASING WOULD BE A HANDFUL A YEAR BECAUSE MOST OF OUR
BIDS ARE NOT OVER THAT THRESHOLD.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE THE SOUTHWEST HAD THE TRASH SERVICE
RECENTLY THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, MORE.
AND THEN THIS AGENDA, WE HAVE ONE THOSE ARE THE TWO MOST
RECENT AND THERE ARE NOT MANY IN THERE FOR US.
02:28:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
02:28:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:28:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
YOU KNOW WHAT IT MADE ME THINK ABOUT, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IS
THE LETTER WE RECEIVE FROM THE PERSON WHO WON THE BID TO
CLEAN HANNA STREET.
THEY HAD TO WITHDRAW EVEN THOUGH IT WAS THE LOWEST BID.
THEY HAD TO WITHDRAW BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T MEET THE DEMANDS
-- THEY UNDERBID IT THEMSELVES AND THEY REALIZED THAT.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE WAY WE CURRENTLY DO BUSINESS.
I THINK THIS BID PROCESS WILL TAKE MORE TIME.
AND THAT MAY NOT BE APPEALING TO CONTRACTORS WHO TAKE THE
TIME TO PARTICIPATE AND DO BUSINESS WITH US.
SO I THINK I WILL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
02:29:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON, YOU MADE A MOTION.
COUNCILWOMAN SECONDED THE MOTION.
ANYTHING ELSE YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
02:29:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY MOTION ASKS FOR A DRAFT ORDER CONTINUES
INTO COME BACK AND DOES NOT -- IT ASKS FOR A MINUTE MUM OF
THREE BIDS FOR PROJECTS OVER $5 MILLION.
IT DOES NOT SAY THAT WE SHOULD TAKE THE LOWEST BIDDER.
AND IT ONLY APPLIES TO PROJECTS $5 MILLION OR ABOVE FOR
PURCHASING.
WE HEARD IT WAS ONLY A HANDFUL.
WISH THE NUMBER WAS LOWER AND IN THE CASE OF CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION, THIS IS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION FOR A SEPARATE
DAY, I AM PUSHING FOR MORE INSTEAD OF .
WE NEED TO GET BID TO KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY SPENDING.
YOU WANT TO READ THIS AGAIN OR JUST LEAVE IT.
02:30:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
QUESTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND THEN WE WILL ASK
YOU TO READ IT AGAIN.
02:30:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
A LOT OF CONCERNS AS I LISTEN TO YOU ON THESE ISSUES.
I HAVE THE SAME TYPE OF QUESTIONS.
CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE
DESIGN-BUILD AND HAVING OUR OWN DESIGN AND BIDDING IT OUT
FOR CONSTRUCTION.
THAT PART -- A SEPARATE ISSUE IN TO?
BECAUSE I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THOSE TWO THINGS?
02:30:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE FOR ANOTHER DAY.
I THINK WE SHOULD SEPARATE DESIGN-BUILD FROM CONSTRUCTION.
ON HOWARD AVENUE, IF WE SEPARATED THE TWO, PEOPLE WEREN'T BE
CONCERNED SOMETHING WILL BE BUILT.
THEY KNOW WE WILL BE DESIGNING IT.
IF YOU TALK TO STAFF, IT MAKES SOME SENSE TO COMBINE THEM,
BUT A SEPARATE ISSUE FOR MAYBE -- FOR ANOTHER DAY.
02:30:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM -- YES?
02:31:04PM >>LUIS :
MY QUESTION TO STAFF.
IF WE PASS THIS, WOULD THIS IN ANY WAY INADVERTENTLY BURDEN
YOU.
MAKE THE PROCESS MORE DIFFICULT?
02:31:18PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
YOU ARE REFERENCING PURCHASING AGREEMENTS AND
NOT CONSTRUCTION BIDS.
LET DEANNA SPEAK TO THAT IF YOU ARE TALKING OF PURCHASING
BIDS.
IT IS A BURDEN BUT IS IT AN UNREASONABLE BURDEN?
02:31:33PM >> CURRENTLY WE LOOK AT OUR CONTRACTS FIVE MONTHS AHEAD TO
DETERMINE DO WE NEED TO REBID IT?
DO WE NEED TO HAVE RENEWALS AVAILABLE.
THINGS LIKE THAT.
IF WE GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROCESS AND WE DIDN'T GET THREE
BIDS AND WE NEED TO GO BACK AND START OVER, ONE WILL BE OUT
OF CONTRACT.
SO, YOU KNOW IT DOESN'T REALLY.
FIVE TO START EIGHT MONTHS AHEAD, DO YOU I DO KNOW AT THAT
POINT IF I WANT TO RENEW THE BID OR IF I AM JUST STARTING.
IT REALLY PUTS NEWS A PLACE WHERE WE WON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME
TO REACT AND HANDLE OTHER BUSINESS AND ALL OF THAT.
SO IT IS A BURDEN ON THE STAFF, BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES THAT ARE GOING TO GO OVER THAT AMOUNT.
I DO BELIEVE WITH THE SOLID WASTE CONTRACT, WEIGH DO HAVE
TWO BIDDERS.
NOT ENOUGH COMPANIES LOCALLY TO COME DOWN THE STREET AND
PICK UP EVERYBODY'S TRASH.
JUST SO MANY THAT DO THAT.
CHEMICALS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT IS A HIGH DOLLAR.
IT IS A CRITICAL CITY NEED.
WE NEED TO HAVE CLEAN WATER.
WE NEED -- YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GOING TO BE INSTANCES WHERE IT
IS ABSOLUTELY DETRIMENTAL TO CITY SERVICES.
02:32:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THAT'S ALL I NODE TO HEAR.
02:32:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AFTER HEARING THAT, A SOLUTION LOOKING FOR
A PROBLEMS.
SO FEW AND THE ISSUES -- I SAW BRAD BAIRD NODDING WITH
ISSUES THERE.
I GUESS -- I WAS -- I WAS CURIOUS.
I THOUGHT IN WALLS CONSTRUCTION AND SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES
THAT WE HAD, WITH THIS ISSUE KIND OF A SOLUTION LOOKING FOR
A PROBLEM THAT MAYBE DOESN'T EXIST IN THESE PARTICULAR
CONTRACTS.
02:33:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU LOOK AT MIAMI-DADE AND THAT EXAMPLE, IT
SHOULD GO FARTHER.
CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION AND REAL ESTATE.
TO MR. MASSEY'S, THERE WAS A PIECE OF REAL ESTATE THAT SOLD
DOWNTOWN BELOW MARKET.
AND PEOPLE WEREN'T HAPPY WITH THE OUTCOME.
AND THE CITY AND CRA SPENT $6.5 MILLION TO RECONFIGURE ROADS
AND THINGS.
02:33:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
A DIFFERENT ISSUE FROM WHAT WE ARE
TALKING.
TALKING ABOUT PROCUREMENT.
02:33:50PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOTION IS PURCHASING, CONTRACTS AND REAL
ESTATE.
ONLY PROJECTS ABOVE $5 MILLION.
THE WAY I SEE THIS, THIS IS AWAY AT THAT TEST.
AND THEN IN A COUPLE OF YEARS WE WILL HAVE DATA AND COME
BACK AND MAYBE LOWER IT BUT STARTING AT $5 MILLION.
COMMUNITY WAS APPALLED FOR HANNA AVENUE NOT PUT OUT FOR BID.
APPALLED AT FAIR OAKS NOT PUT OUT FOR BID.
RFQ WAS NOT SUFFICIENT IF WE CAN SAVE MONEY.
DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO TAKE THE LOWEST BIDDER BUT MORE THAN
ONE BID.
02:34:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ON THE REAL ESTATE, WE NEED MORE
DISCUSSION PAUSE I AM NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.
PROCUREMENT, STAFF EXPLAINED THEMSELVES THAT MAY BE A
SOLUTION LOOKING FOR A PROBLEMS.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THIS BROUGHT BACK ANOTHER DAY TO
CAULK ABOUT REAL ESTATE ACQUISITION AND BECAUSE I THINK IT
AS MUCH BIGGER ISSUE.
02:34:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AGREE WITH THAT CONCERN.
02:34:48PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. CHAIR, MOTION TO ASK LEGAL STAFF TO --
INSTEAD OF DRAFT AN ORDINANCE TO RETURN ON UP TO THE
WORKSHOP ON JUNE 23.
02:34:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A GOOD DAY.
02:35:00PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO DISCUSS THE POSSIBILITY OF AN ORDINANCE
THAT WILL REQUIRE PURCHASING ADMINISTRATION FOR BIDS THAT
EXCEED $5 MILLION.
02:35:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:35:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
CAN WE TAKE THE PROCUREMENT -- I THINK THE
REAL ESTATE IS THE REAL CONCERN HERE, NO?
02:35:21PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE CONCERN WITH ALL OF IT.
I MEAN, AN EXAMPLE, THERE -- WE SEEN -- YOU WEREN'T HERE BUT
WHEN I FIRST STARTED FIVE YEARS AGO, WE WERE STILL GETTING
CONTRACTS FROM THE LAST ADMINISTRATION AND ONE WAS HD
CAMERAS FOR BLESS HELICOPTERS.
AND ONLY ONE BID AND I ASKED THE QUESTION PUBLICLY, HOW COME
THERE WAS ONLY ONE BID.
THEY STAYED ONE OTHER BID AND IT WAS EXCLUDED BECAUSE 80
MILES OF AWAY.
I SAID HOW MUCH WAS THE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT AND 30.
THAT BIDDER WAS 30.
THEY DIDN'T TRY TO MAKE IT 50 OR SOMETHING.
THEY MADE IT 50.
THE PURPOSE IS FIND ANOTHER WAY OF PROVIDING TARGETED RFP.
NOT THIS PURCHASING DEPARTMENT IS DOING IT BUT PROTECT
TAXPAYERS GOING FORWARD THAT WE HAVE ADDITIONAL LAYERS OF
PROCESS IN PLACE.
02:36:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAY NOT BE ABOUT THREE BIDDERS BUT LESS
THAN THREE -- TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT WE JUST DESCRIBED.
02:36:25PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE POINT IS, IF YOU GET BIDDERS AND
NOT RFQ.
BUT IF YOU GET ACTUAL BIDS, YOU KNOW WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE.
02:36:33PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THEY CAN STILL DO WHAT YOU DESCRIBE.
02:36:36PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THEY COULD.
02:36:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOESN'T SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.
02:36:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THERE ARE OTHER CASES BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO
THROUGH IT.
02:36:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR
JUNE 26, YOU SAID?
02:36:49PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF TO DISCUSS A DRAFT
ORDINANCE ON A POSSIBLE -- LET'S SAY POSSIBLE DRAFT
ORDINANCE ON JUNE 23 AT A WORKSHOP FOR THE ADMINISTRATION
AND GET THREE ITEMS THAT EXCEED $5 MILLION.
02:37:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
JUNE 27 IS THE WORKSHOP.
02:37:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ARE YOU IN THE WRONG MONTH.
02:37:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO I HAVE A SECOND?
02:37:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I WILL SECOND WITH CAVEAT.
I MEAN IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THAT, WE MIGHT AS WELL DIG IN
AND HAVE A CONVERSATION OF RFPs AND RFQs.
02:37:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK WE HAVE THAT AT ANOTHER TIME.
02:37:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
YOUR MIC WAS ON.
02:37:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
MR. MIRANDA WAS FIRST.
02:37:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LET ME SAY THIS.
HERE, AGAIN, I WILL MAKE ASSUMPTIONS OF FACT THAT MAY OR MAY
NOT BE FACTUAL FOUR BIDDERS ON THAT JOB OF SOMETHING THAT
WAS DONE FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO TWO YEARS AGO OR LAST WEEK OR
WHATEVER.
YOUR DEPARTMENT SHOULD KNOW THE INFLATION RATE RECORDING
THAT PROJECT AND WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
YOU GET THESE FOUR BIDDERS -- I AM NOT SAYING THIS IS
HAPPENING HERE.
PLEASE DON'T MISQUOTE WHAT I AM SAYING OR ANYWHERE ELSE.
BUT A POSSIBILITY THAT FOUR BIDDER, TWO BIDDERS, BIDDERS AND
50 BIDDERS CAN GET TOGETHER AND HAVE WHAT IS CALLED
COLLUSION.
YOUR ITEM $1, AND THEY CALL COME UP WITH $1.15.
YOU WILL HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE OF THOSE.
THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE IN AMERICA.
IT IS CALLED "GREED."
G-R-E-E-D, GREED.
IT IS VERY HARD TO FIND, BUT THEY HAVE GONE TO JAIL FOR
THAT.
02:38:46PM >>DEANNA FAGGART:
RIGHT.
WE LOOK FOR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SOMETIMES THERE ARE TELL-TALE SIGNS BUT NOT ALWAYS, YOU
KNOW.
02:38:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THEN YOU HAVE LOOKED AT -- ON THE PAST.
IF IT IS A FOUR-YEAR CONTRACT TO DO SOMETHING, THE CONTRACT
THAT IS GOOD, YOU FIRST DEGREE OUT THE NEXT FOUR YEARS IF IT
IS THE SAME ITEM THAT IS NEEDED, WHAT WAS THE INFLATION RATE
AND THE COST OF MATERIALS SO I WOULD IMAGINE, YOU KNOW, WHAT
THE COST OF MATERIALS ARE WHEN YOU ARE BIDDING OUT
SOMETHING.
02:39:14PM >>DEANNA FAGGART:
RIGHT.
02:39:15PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM SATISFIED WITH THAT.
THANK YOU.
02:39:19PM >>DEANNA FAGGART:
RIGHT.
FOR EVERY BID WE LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE IT IS IN LINE WITH
WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING.
WE ARE -- MOST OF OUR CONTRACTS ARE REPETITIVE.
SO WE KNOW HOW MANY BID WE HAVE GOTTEN IN THE PAST.
WE KNOW WHAT WE PAID IN THE PAST.
WE KNOW IF IT IS SOMETHING NEW, WE ARE IN LINE WITH WHAT IS
BUDGETED.
WE DON'T BID THINGS OUT THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BUDGETED.
THERE ARE A LOT OF CHECKS AND BALANCES IN PLACE ALREADY TO
MAKE SURE THAT THE PRICE WE ARE PAY SOMETHING FAIR.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT PURCHASING WORKS DIRECTLY WITH
THE USER DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE MAKE
AN AWARD THAT IT IS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE ANTICIPATED
EXPENDITURE AMOUNT AND ALL OF THAT.
THAT THE PRICE IS FAIR.
02:40:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
02:40:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I PROMISED MYSELF EVERY TIME IT IS IN DISTRICT 5,
PARTICULARLY THE HANNA STREET PROJECT AND NOW FAIR OAKS, IS
ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE MODEL OF OUR COUNCILMEMBER HERE TO
PROVIDE NEW PROCESSES, YOU KNOW, TO -- TO US AS THOUGH
SOMETHING IS BROKEN.
AND SO I DON'T NECESSARILY BELIEVE THAT PROCESS IS
NECESSARY.
THE -- BOTH PROJECTS IN -- IN THE DISTRICT FIVE COMMUNITY IS
-- ONE IS COMPLETED.
IT HAD 30-PLUS PERCENT MINORITY PARTICIPATION.
PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT THAT.
IT HAPPENED.
THE DESIGN-BUILD FOR HANNA STREET, 70% OF IT WENT TO
MINORITY CONTRACTORS, INCLUDING THE ARCHITECT.
70% OF MINORITY AND BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES.
SO I JUST FEEL AS THOUGH BECAUSE WHEN I STARTED THIS
POSITION.
IT WAS YOUR DEPARTMENT THAT A AWARDED THIS POSITION WHEN IT
CAME US TO ABOUT THREE TIMES BECAUSE YOU ALL WERE AWARDED
FOR YOUR GOOD WORK, AM I CORRECT?
THREE OR FOUR TIMES.
AND IT MEANS -- WE COMMENDED YOU AND SAID YOU ARE DOING
OUTSTANDING THINGS.
AND I DO NOT SEE A NEED TO CHANGE A PROCESS WHERE YOU HAVE
EXPRESS IT WOULD TAKE LONGER.
IT IS NOT NECESSARY.
AND SO THAT IS WHY I WANT TO SUPPORT THE PURCHASING
DEPARTMENT IN THIS -- IN THIS MISSION THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY
ON.
THERE IS NO -- NO NEED TO CHANGE IT AND I WILL BE VOTING NO,
EVEN NOR A WORKSHOP.
02:41:50PM >>DEANNA FAGGART:
THANK YOU.
02:41:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
THERE WAS A MOTION.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
CORRECT?
02:41:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
02:41:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR TO SET THE WORKSHOP FOR
JUNE -- DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:42:02PM >>LUIS VIERA:
NO.
02:42:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
02:42:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YES.
02:42:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
02:42:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR THIS --
02:42:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
STATE YOUR NAME.
02:42:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SET MY NAME, CLEAN REMEMBER, 314 --
02:42:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO, NO --
02:42:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
PURPOSE OF THE DISCUSSION I AM NOT ON
BOARD WITH THIS.
BRINGING IT BACK FOR A WORKSHOP NOT ACTION.
I WILL SAY YES.
02:42:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO.
02:42:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES.
02:42:34PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH VIERA, MIRANDA AND HENDERSON
VOTING NO.
02:42:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
78 NEXT.
BUT WE HAVE 76 AND 77 THAT WE DID NOT ASK FOR STAFF.
02:42:52PM >>LUIS VIERA:
TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT GIVING US AN UPDATE ON
A BUDGET ITEM.
I KNOW TIME IS PRESSED.
02:42:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO STAFF FOR THE NEXT THREE AND
THEN TPD.
ITEM NUMBER 76.
NO STAFF WAS REQUESTED.
WE DO HAVE A MEMO FROM MR. BRAD BAIRD.
IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS -- IF THERE ARE -- IF THERE AREN'T
ANY ADDITIONAL REQUEST HE IS, A MOTION TO APPROVE 76?
02:43:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO MOVED.
02:43:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND?
02:43:19PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
02:43:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
OPINION SAME FOR 77.
MR. BRAD BAIRD PROVIDED A MEMO.
02:43:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO MOVED.
02:43:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO WE HAVE A SECOND.
02:43:31PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
02:43:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
AYE.
ITEM 78.
ORIGINALLY ASKED THAT STAFF LAB PRESENT AND CHANGED TO A NO
AND ASKED MR. BHIDE.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WITH A MOTION TO MOVE OF 78.
SECOND FOR COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
ITEM 79.
TPD IS HERE.
SAFE AND SOUND IS HERE.
THEY ARE GOING TO COME UP AND SPEAK.
YES, SIR.
02:43:59PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CALVIN JOHNSON, DEPUTY CAPTAIN, AND TO
MY RIGHT IS THE GRANT ADMINISTRATOR FOR THIS GRANT, AND
FREDDY, HE IS THE CEO OF SAFE AND SOUND.
I WILL GO OVER THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS INITIAL GRANT THAT
WE GOT FROM THE DOJ.
AND 2022 AROUND THE NATION, THE DOJ GAVE OUT A LOT OF GRANTS
AND A GRIP AROUND TEEN VIOLENCE.
AND WE GOT $1.5 MILLION FOR THAT GRANT.
THE FOCUS OF THE GRANT IS REALLY TO ADDRESS THE YOUTH GUN
VIOLENCE AND FAMILIES INVOLVED IN TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE
ISSUES WITH THE YOUTH THROUGH SERVICES.
AND THE KEY PARTNERS IN THIS GRANT.
THE CITY OF TAMPA ACTUALLY GOT THE GRANT WITHIN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, ONE OF THE ADMINISTRATORS OF
IT.
WE ALSO HAVE THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH CAROLINA.
BRIANNA FOX COULDN'T MAKE IT HERE TODAY, BUT THEY ARE PART
OF THE GRANT.
ALSO WITH SAFE AND SOUND AND FREDDY BARNES HERE THE COO.
THE INITIATIVE IS A THREE-YEAR PROGRAM.
CURRENTLY IN THE SECOND YEAR OF THE PROGRAM.
THE FOCUS IN THE SECOND YEAR IS IDENTIFYING YOUTH AND
FAMILIES AND IMPLEMENTING THE SERVICE PROVISION.
THE FIRST YEAR OF THE GRANT WAS ALL ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER A
PROGRAM THAT YOU HAVE TO SUBMIT TO THE DOJ THAT THEY WOULD
APPROVE US GOING FORWARD WITHIN THE GRANT.
WE HAVE A DISCUSSION OF THEM GOING BACK AND FORTH AND SOME
WANTED TO SEE.
WE HAD TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND THEY MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS TO
GO FORWARD WITH IMPLEMENTING THE PROGRAM AND THE GRANT.
IF MISS OTERO WILL GO OVER THE NEXT TWO SLIDES REGARDING THE
GRANT ADMINISTRATOR ROLE.
02:46:23PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
SO LET ME MAKE A CORRECTION TO MY JOB TITLE.
02:46:29PM >> OH --
02:46:30PM >> SO I AM MISS OTERO, THE SENIOR GRANT ANALYST FOR THE
TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS GRANT, I AM THE PROJECT MANAGER.
THE EXPECT POLICE DEPARTMENT AS DEPUTY CHIEF MENTIONED
WESTERLY AWARDED IN 2022 TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT A
COMMUNITY VIOLENCE INTERVENTION AND PREVENTION INITIATIVE
WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
SO THE ROLE OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT IS TO OVERSEE THE
PROJECT MANAGEMENT WHICH INVOLVES SETTING A CLEAR VISION,
DETERMINING REQUIREMENT, ALLOCATING RESOURCES, MONITORING
BUDGET AND APPROVING ANY NECESSARY SCOPE AND MODIFICATION.
PERFORM COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENTS, GIVE PRIORITY TO RISK
MANAGEMENT AND STRICTLY FOLLOW THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES
SPECIFIED IN THE OMB ADMINISTRATIVE UNIFORM REQUIREMENTS.
FOLLOWING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
WE WILL ENSURE THAT ALL GRANT REQUIREMENTS GUARANTEEING
ACCURATE PROJECT PURPOSES AND STRICT ADHERENCE TO QUALITY
PLAN PROCESSES.
AS DEPUTY CHIEF JOHNSON MENTIONED, PARTNERING WITH SAFE AND
SOUND HILLSBOROUGH AND THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA.
DR. BRIANNA FOX THE RESEARCH PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT.
THE PURPOSE OF USF TO COLLECT AND ANALYZE DATA FOR TRACKING
PURPOSES OF THE VIOLENCE REDUCTION CECIL STRATEGY.
USF WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A COMPREHENSIVE PROGRAM
EVALUATION TO ASSESS THE EFFECTIVENESS AND ADJUSTMENTS TO
ENSURE THE PROJECT'S LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY.
REDUCING FIREARM-RELATED OFFENSES AND CONSEQUENCES OF
VIOLENCE WITH THE SUPPORT OF POSITIVE ROOTS AWAY FROM IT.
THE DEPARTMENT HAD WEEKLY REVIEWS OF SHOOTING INCIDENTS AND
GROUPS FOR GENERATING SCORECARDS TO MONITOR CITY ACTIVITIES.
THE GOAL IS REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME BY 5% WITHIN THE NEXT THEY
YEARS WHILE WE HAVE THE GRANT.
WE ARE A FOSTER COOPERATION, TO IMPROVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
COMMUNITY RELATIONS TO ESTABLISH EQUALITY FOR LONG-TERM
SUSTAINABILITY.
SO I AM GOING TO GO OVER THE BREAKDOWN ON THE FUNDING.
SO $1.5 MILLION.
EVERYBODY QUESTIONS HOW THE 1.5 IS GOING TO BE USED.
WHERE IS IT GOING TO?
IF YOU LOOK IN FRONT OF YOU, HERE IS A BREAKDOWN.
60% OF THIS GRANT WILL GO TO TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR
GRANT ADMINISTRATION AND SUPPORT THE GRANT ADMINISTRATION
AND WILL BE ALLOCATING FUNDS TO THE GRANT STAFF WHICH IS
MYSELF AND ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL.
OFFICERS AND CRIME ANALYST WHICH WILL TAKE -- WHO WILL BE
TASKED WITH IDENTIFYING THE YOUTH AND WHO -- WHO CAN BENEFIT
FROM INTERVENTION SERVICES USF IS TAKING 29% OF THE FUNDING
THAT ENCOMPASSES RESEARCH, PROGRAM EVALUATION, BEST PRACTICE
DEVELOPMENT, AND PUBLISHING AND ENSURING A COMPREHENSIVE AND
EFFECTIVE GROWTH FOR EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.
SAFE AND SOUND HILLSBOROUGH AIMS TIMES FOCUS THEIR PARTNER
-- FOR PARTNERSHIP OF VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS FOR FUNDING FOR
ACADEMIC SUPPORT, MENTORSHIP, VOCATIONAL TRAINING,
COUNSELING, WORK FORCE DEVELOPMENT AND VICTIM SUPPORT
SERVICES.
ADDITIONALLY TO THAT, SAFE AND SOUND WILL BE PARTNERING WITH
LOCAL GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
PROVIDE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE IF YOU LOOK IN FRONT OF YOU, IT BREAKS
DOWN HOW THE FUNDS WILL BE ALLOCATED.
CITY OF TAMPA WAS ALLOCATED $1.5 MILLION.
WHICH THEN, IN TURN, TURNS AROUND THE TAMPA POLICE
DEPARTMENT TO DEVELOP AND IMPLEMENT THE VIOLENCE INITIATIVE
WHICH WE THEN IN TURN ARE PARTNERING WITH SAFE AND SOUND
WHILE SAFE AND SOUND WILL BE PARTNERING WITH SMALLER GRASS
ROOT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE DIRECT
SERVICES FOR THE YOUTH WHO WERE ARRESTED FOR DRUG CHARGES.
I WILL HAVE MR. FREDDY BARTON SPEAK FURTHER HOW HE IS DOING
IT WITH SAFE AND SOUND.
02:51:03PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
FREDDY BARTON, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF SAFE AND SOUND OF
HILLSBOROUGH.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FUNDING AMOUNT, THE SAFE AND SOUND
HILLSBOROUGH, DIRECT, $293,000.
THAT IS TO HIRE TWO CASE MANAGERS.
TWO INTENSIVE CASE MANAGERS WORK WITH YOUTH AND FAMILY AS
PART OF THE SCREENING PROCESS OVER THE ENTIRE GRANT PERIOD.
THE CASE MANAGERS WILL SHALL ATTENDING JUVENILE COURT AND
POSITION HEARINGS AND WORK WITH THE CRIME ANALYST BASED
ON A SCORE AND CRITERIA THEREOF.
THE PURPOSES OF THE GRANT FOR THE PILOT PHASE, IDENTIFY 50
YOUTH.
IF THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU THINK YOU WILL BE ABLE TO ATTRACT
OR IDENTIFY AND FIND 50 YOUTH JUST IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, SIX
INDIVIDUAL YOUTH THAT WERE ARRESTED ON?
YOUTH FIREARM CHARGES.
02:52:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SIX?
02:52:03PM >> SIX.
SIX INDIVIDUAL YOUTH LIVE IN THE ZIP CODE.
NOT INCLUDING MORE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
THIS SAFE AND SOUND OPERATES A SAFE GUN USER PROGRAM
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
SINCE JANUARY 2021, WE ALREADY STARTED WORKING WITH 41
YOUNGER INDIVIDUALS UNDER THE A TIM OF 17 ARRESTED ON
FIREARM CHARGES.
WE KNOW THERE IS A NEED FOR THIS GRANT AND THIS IS VERY
TIMELY FOR THAT.
YOU LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF THINGS, WE ARE NOT JUST LOOKING
WITH THOSE YOUTH ARRESTED FOR FIREARM CHARGES BUT THOSE AT
RISK AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, BAT RIGHT OR DV, WITHOUT THOSE
SERVICES TO YOUTH AND THE FAMILY, THEY CAN ESCALATE TO
LARGER OFFENSES.
PART OF THAT FUNDING GOING TO THE CASE MANAGERS THAT WE ARE
GOING TO BRING ON BOARD AS PART OF THIS GRANT WE LOOK AT THE
OTHER FUNDING, $350,000 NORTH OF THAT TO GO TO COMMUNITY
PARTNERS.
JAY JOHNSON WITH RISE UP FOR PEACE.
WE LOOK AT THE PRINCIPAL STREETS OF THE PROJECT ARE WITH THE
DEEP-END YOUTH AND WITH THEIR FAMILIES PROVIDING A SAFE AND
ADVOCACY WITH VICTIMS AND SUPPORT THEREOF AND ENGAGING THE
COMMUNITY.
WE KNOW A LOT OF ORGANIZATION ARE DOING GREAT WORK AND CASE
MANAGEMENT AND USING LAW ENFORCEMENT IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE
ANYTHING.
YOU LOOK AT THE DOCUMENT, YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS INDIVIDUAL
GROUP THEORY.
ACADEMIC SUPPORT.
LIFE SKILLS, LOCATIONAL EXPO CHAIR AND MOST OF ALL, GIVES
SUPPORT FOR THE PARENTS OF THE INDIVIDUAL YOUTH THAT WE
IDENTIFY AND THE PARENTS OF THE INVESTIGATION OF THIS
TRAGEDY THAT WE SEE THAT IS GOING AROUND.
WHEN THE GRANT WAS INITIALLY WRITTEN, THERE WERE SEVERAL
PROVIDERS INCLUDED IN THAT GRANT APPLICATION SUCH AS PARKS
AND REC.
SUCH AS RISE UP FOR PEACE.
SUCH AS MEN OF VISION.
WHEN TPD -- OR THE CITY OF TAMPA RECEIVED A GRANT, WE LOOK
AT WHERE WERE THE GAP.
WE KNEW WE NEEDED TO LOOK AT ACADEMIC SUPPORT AND ADVOCACY
AND SUPPORT SERVICES.
WE REACHED OUT TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
TWO MEETINGS WITH COMMUNITY PROVIDERS AND WE ASKED FOR
VETTING INFORMATION, PROOF FOR 501C STATUS, CONTROLS AND
GRANTS THAT THEY HAD AND THE REPORTS THEREOF.
THOSE THAT HAD THAT INCHES, THEY STARTED BRINGING THE MOU
PROCESS.
WORKING WITH SOME OF THE SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS THAT DON'T
NECESSARILY HAVE THOSE THINGS AND GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE
THEY CAN PROVIDE SERVICES AND SUPPORT SERVICES -- SUPPORT
FUNDING.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT OUTREACH TO OTHER
ORGANIZATIONS.
WE KNOW THERE ARE GROUPS.
THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS AND CHURCHES THAT WANT TO BE
INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT.
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY OR CELLS TO DO THAT.
TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE EVENTS AND SERVICES ON A SMALL SCALE
BLOCK BY BLOCK TO WORK IN TANDEM WITH US.
TO ADDRESS THAT, THIS GRANT IS ALLOCATING $100,000 IN THIS
INITIAL ROUND, SPONSORS FOR THOSE GROUPS.
THOSE AGENCIES THAT DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL CONTROLS AND
NOT DESIGNATED 501 C 3s.
TO PUT TOGETHER A WORKSHOP AND HAVE THE FACILITATORS TO COME
IN AND HAVE FLYERS AND PRINT OUT MATERIALS.
WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THEM ON THE FRONT-FACING PORTAL ON
THE WEB PAGE TO APPLY FOR THOSE SUPPORT FUNDS AND WILL BE
PAID DIRECTLY TO THE VENDORS NOT NECESSARILY THE
ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE CONTROLS.
A WAY FOR THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, CHURCHES TO GET
THINGS DONE.
IF YOU WANT QUICK EXAMPLE OF THAT.
IF YOU HAVE A CHURCH THAT SAYS STOP AT GUN VIOLENCE RALLY,
WE HAVE A FACILITATE THEIR COMES IN.
WE NEED PRINTING, PAPER, PENS, SUPPLY.
THEY ARE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THAT GRANT AND AWARDED AND A
SPONSORSHIP THAT.
02:56:09PM >> PAID AND PAYS FOR SUPPLIES.
WE GO BACK TO THE DIE GRAM OF THE FUNDING, WE SEE THAT 0%.
A THIRD OF THAT FUNDING IS GOING DIRECTLY OUT TO THE
COMMUNITY FOR PROVIDERS AND ORGANIZATIONS AND GROUPS THAT
WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS LOOK TO CLOSE THIS AND TAKE ANY
QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE.
IN FUNDING, WHO ARE WE WORKING WITH?
WE ARE WORKING WITH YOUTH, AGES 10 OR 17 THAT ARE YOU ARE
CURRENTLY RELATED WITH A GUN OR WEAPON DEFENSE AND AT RISK
THEREOF.
WORKING WITH THE FAMILIES SOMETHING THAT IS NOT REALLY DONE
INCH THESE PROGRAMS AND IDENTIFY THOSE INDIVIDUAL YOUTH WHO
HAVE SIBLINGS THAT HAVE YET TO GO DOWN THAT PATH OF
DELINQUENCY WORK REQUESTING VICTIMS AND COMMUNITY GROUPS.
WE FIND THE WHAT AND SERVICES PROVIDED, THINK OF $1.5
MILLION.
IT IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF
SERVICES THAT NEED TO BE PROVIDED AND LOOKING THAT THE
INITIAL GROUP OF 50 YOUNG PEOPLE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
WE KNOW THAT THE GRANT IS AN INITIAL THREE-YEAR GRANT.
W WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THIS WILL BE RENEWED.
DOJ ANNOUNCED ANOTHER ROUND OF FUNDING AND WE ARE ALREADY
TALKING ABOUT HOW TO LEVERAGE THIS GRANT INTO MORE FUNDING.
WHERE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF TAMPA, AS WE HAVE SEEN WITH
RECENT EVENTS, GUN VIOLENCE CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE.
YOU TAKE A CROSS SECTION OF THE CITY AND RUSE 275 AND I 4.
AND USE IT FOR QUADRANT.
INDIVIDUAL YOUTH IN EACH TO ARE QUADRANT.
KIDS LOOKING IN RESPONSE TO SOMETHING AND FOCUS ON COMMUNITY
ENGAGEMENT AND BRIDGING THE GAP BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND
COMMUNITY AND HOW BY WORKING WITH FOLKS TO PROVIDE SUPPORT
SERVICES TO THE YOUTH AND COMMUNITIES AND HELPING TO
PERCEIVE SAFETY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE ENGAGEMENT.
WITH THAT WE TURN IT OVER TO CHIEF TO ANSWER I DIDN'T GUESS.
02:58:21PM >> WHEN IT COMES TO THE GRANT.
NATIONWIDE THE DOJ, MANY CITIES DOING IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
THE TYPE THEY ARE DOING THIS, WE FIND THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT
IS NOT THE ONLY ANSWER.
WE FIND THAT PARENTS NEED HELP.
A LOT OF NONPROFITS OUT THERE THAT THEY GOT HEART FOR THEIR
COMMUNITY BUT DON'T HAVE THE FOUNDATION TO GET THE FUNDING
TO HIP THEM IN THEIR PROGRAMS.
THAT IS WHY SAFE AND SOUND IS HERE TO GIVE ORGANIZATIONS
THAT THEY NEED AS FAR AS FINDING A WAY OF GIVING THEM.
AND LEARN ABOUT THE GRANT PROCESS AND APPLY FOR THEIR OWN
AND THE OWN AREA WHAT THEY ARE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THE CITY OF TAMPA IS PARTNERING WITH EVERYBODY THAT WE KNOW
ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
HAS SKIN IN THE GAME AND REDUCING KEEN VIOLENCE.
ANY QUESTIONS?
02:59:16PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION, MR. BARTON.
I HAVE TREMENDOUS RESPECT WHAT YOU DO IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I SEE THERE JOHNSON AND THE COMMUNITY HERE AS WELL.
WHEN YOU SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, SIX YOUTH WERE ARRESTED THAT IS
THE NUMBER YOU BROUGHT UP JUST RECENTLY.
ARE THEY UNDER 18?
ARE THEY UNDER 14?
17 YEARS OLDS OR KID YOUNGER THAN THAT.
02:59:43PM >> 15 -- OVER THE LAST -- THIS IS FROM APRIL 1 TO CURRENT,
WE HAD ONE 15-YEAR-OLD, TWO 16-YEAR-OLDS AND THREE
17-YEAR-OLDS.
02:59:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
ALL RIGHT.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:59:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR THAT WONDERFUL SUPPORT.
AND MR. BARTON, EVERYBODY BEING HERE.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND, AGAIN, AS YOU RECOGNIZE OUR FRIEND MR. JOHNSON WITH
RICE UP FOR PEACE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I LOVE RISE UP FOR PEACE SO MUCH, IT IS
INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE AFFECTED BY SENSELESS VIOLENCE IN THE
MOST PERSONAL WAY POSSIBLE.
OFTEN THEIR KIDS -- I AM A FATHER AND I COULDN'T IMAGINE.
IT IS PAIN IN AREAS THAT YOU NEVER KNEW EXISTED AND YOU
DON'T WANT TO KNOW EXISTED AND YOU HAVE FOLKS LIKE THERE
JOHNSON, PATRICIA AND MANY OTHERS SUSTAINED THIS PAIN AND
USE IT TO GIVE PEOPLE HOPE AND RESTORATION WHO NEED IT WHO
ARE GOING THROUGH THAT TERRIBLE PROCESS.
I ALWAYS SAY THAT CRIME IS AN ISSUE.
AND VICTIMS OF CRIME IS AN ISSUE OF EQUITY AND JUSTICE.
IT IS.
AND THAT IS WHY I DIDN'T AGREE WAY LOT OF PEOPLE ON WHAT I
CONSIDER ONE POLITICAL EXTREME.
BY THE WAY, I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING IN THE CITY OF
TAMPA, NO ONE ON CITY COUNCIL, NOTHING OF THAT NATURE.
I KNOW, RIGHT HERE.
BUT THE ISSUE, LAW ENFORCEMENT SUPPORTING POLICE PEOPLE IN
ALL COMMUNITIES WANT POLICE.
THEY WANT POLICING.
WHENEVER VIOLENCE ARE IN COMMUNITY.
YOU WILL HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT THERE.
COMMON SENSE.
WE CAN'T GET SO OUT OF TOUCH THAT WE DISREGARD NORMAL
SENTIMENT THAT EVERY COMMUNITY HAS AND CRIME AND VICTIMS OF
CRIME SHOULD MATTER TO ANY COMMUNITY.
YOUR ZIP CODE, NO GATED COMMUNITY WILL PROTECT YOU FROM YOUR
OBLIGATION TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO ARE VICTIMS OF CRIMES,
HUNTERS GREEN, PALMA CEIA, TAMPA PALMS, HYDE PARK, DOESN'T
MATTER.
THAT HAS GOT TO BE YOUR ISSUE.
DO WHAT YOU DO.
YOU ALWAYS SAY STUFF ON CRIME AND VIOLENT CRIME BUT TOUGH ON
THE CRIME.
HOPELESSNESS, ABOVE POVERTY.
WE INVEST IN THINGS LIKE AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS AND
APPRENTICESHIP AND JOB TRAIN.
A PATHWAY TO HOPE THAT PRESENTS CRIME THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PRESENTATION AND ALL THAT YOU DO.
03:02:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MA'AM, YOU WANT TO SPEAK?
03:02:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I AM VERY EXCITED FOR THIS.
ESPECIALLY GOING FORWARD.
ESPECIALLY FOCUS AND FAMILY OF YOUTH.
THIS IS IT RATHER NOVEL AND EXCITING.
SO I JUST HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION IS, SINCE THIS IS MORE OF A
NEW AREA, BUT JUST OVER-- HOW ARE YOU GOING TO EVALUATE WHAT
STRATEGIES ARE WORKING.
WHAT ARE YOUR -- YOUR STOP SPOTS FOR SAYING, THIS IS
WORKING.
MAYBE THIS ISN'T WORKING.
SO NEXT TIME, LET'S TRY THIS.
WHERE -- WHAT ARE YOUR TOP SPOTS FOR THIS PARTICULAR GRANT.
IT IS ALWAYS GOING TO TARGET ONE THING LIKE THE FAMILY OF
YOUTH.
HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WHAT YOU NEED
TO CHANGE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO CHANGE SOMETHING.
BECAUSE NOTHING IS PERFECT.
WHERE IS THAT SPACE?
03:03:14PM >> THAT IS GOES GOING TO BE -- THAT IS A SPACE THAT USF DIVE
INTO.
ONCE WE FIND OUT WE ARE HELPING OUT THE YOUTH AND TALKING
WITH THE FAMILIES AND THEY ARE STAYING OUT OF THE SYSTEM,
TWO, THREE, FOUR MONTH, THAT NOT THE ONLY GAUGE WE ARE USING
FOR SUCCESS OR NONSUCCESS IN THE PROGRAM.
03:03:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY QUESTION IS, AT WHAT PERIOD IN THIS GRANT
CALENDAR WILL YOU BE STOPPING AND ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.
ONCE HE GET STARTED, IT IS VERY EASY TO KEEP ON GOING.
THIS IS THE KIND OF WORK I DID BEFORE I WAS A COUNCILMEMBER
AND THIS IS VERY NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART BECAUSE NO SUCH
THING AS PERFECT.
WHAT ARE YOUR STOP SPOTS TO SAY HOW DO I NEED TO CHANGE
THAT.
03:04:00PM >> MULTIPLE HOT SPOTS, THE PRE-90-DAY PERIOD WATCH FOR
INITIAL INTERVENTION.
LOOK FOR THE YOUTH ACTIVELY RECEIVING SERVICES.
APPEAR 30, 60, 90, 180-DAY PERIOD.
KEEPING THEM IN THE -- FOR SIX MONTHS.
YOU LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES AND WHAT ARE THE LONG-TERM EFFECT
ON RECIDIVISM.
USF WILL BE IDENTIFIED THAT QUARTERLY AND REMOVING AND
PIVOTING AS WE GO.
BENEFIT OF THIS MODEL WE HAVE TO BE NIMBLE AND RESPOND TO
CHANGES MADE IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
IF WE LOOK AT YOUTH AND ADDING THE LAYER OF WORKING WITH THE
FAMILIES, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS WE WILL TRACK IS THE SIBLING
ARREST RATE.
UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE YOUTH WE HAVE CURRENTLY IN OUR
PROGRAM, YOUTH OFFENDER PROGRAM, 81% OF OUR YOUTH HAD A
MOTHER, FATHER OR SIBLING PREVIOUSLY ARRESTED OR
INCARCERATED, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO SEE HOW DOES ACTIVE
PROGRAMMING REDUCE THAT RATE AND MONITORING THAT AND MAKING
SHIFTS ALONG THE WAY.
03:05:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS GREAT.
SOUND WONDERFUL.
I HOPE AT ONE POINT, MAYBE A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF IN YOU
WILL COME BACK AND GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON HOW SUCCESSFUL
THAT HALLS BEEN OR WHAT YOU ARE SEEING OUT THERE AN ABSOLUTE
WONDERFUL PROGRAM AND LOOK FORWARD TO EXPANSION OF CITY
ACTIVITIES.
CITY YOUTH ACTIVITIES THAT CAN HOPEFULLY PROVIDE A PLACE TO
HELP GET KIDS OFF THE STREET.
YOU ARE TARGETING AN AREA WE REALLY NEED WHICH IS FOLKS THAT
ARE ALREADY IN THERE.
I LOVE PARTNERING WITH NONPROFITS THAT DO THAT WORK BECAUSE
THAT IS NOT WHAT WE DO BEST.
BUT A BLIP.
I AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
03:05:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:05:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.
YOU LOOK AT POT SPOTS, SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS DOESN'T
NECESSARILY MEAN THEY LIVE SOMEWHERE.
TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
HOT SPOTS AND WHERE DOES IT COME FROM?
IN MY MIND YOU WILL HAVE A PATTERN SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR WHAT
IS GOING ON AND WHEN.
WHY WERE THIS GO UPS IN THE STREET.
WHY WERE THERE GUNS IN THE STREET BEFORE?
NOBODY COULD AFFORD A GUN BEFORE.
THE KIDS COULDN'T AFFORD A GUN.
THEY CAN'T AFFORD A GUN NOW.
THE KIDS SEE SOMETHING AND REGISTER IN THEIR MIND THAT THAT
IS NORMAL.
THAT IS NOT NORMAL.
ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU GREW UP AROUND.
I AM NOT TALKING OF PARENTING.
THE PARENTS MAY NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT.
THESE ARE THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN AMERICA 350 MILLION
PEOPLE.
THREE IN EVERY HOUSEHOLD.
THREE IN EVERY HOUSEHOLD.
YOU CAN'T SOLVE A PROBLEM UNTIL YOUNGER GENERATION KNOWS
THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
UNDER 12 YEARS OLD
NO MATTER WHAT COLOR AND RACE YOU ARE, THE SAME THING
EVERYWHERE.
EVERYBODY HAS GOT A GUN.
AND NOT AFRAID TO PULL IT AND THE PROBLEM IN SATURDAY.
WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, NO ONE HAD GUNS, YOU HAD TO.
YOU CAN'T NOT RUN A BULLET.
THAT IS THE PROBLEM WE HAVE.
03:07:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:07:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
MR. BARTON.
HELLO, HELLO.
I JUST WAS WONDERING -- RISE UP FOR PEACE.
I SEE YOU.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK YOU DO.
THE FIRST EVENT I WENT TO AS COUNCILWOMAN-ELECT WAS RISE UP
FOR PEACE, THE BENCH DEDICATION OVER AT REGAN PARK.
TWO SPOTS.
AND QUESTIONS.
THIS IS THE SCARIEST TOPIC FOR ME JUST KNOWING THAT A CHILD
CAN HAVE A GUN IN THEIR HANDS.
IS THERE ANY PREVENTION ACTIVITIES IN PLACE FOR A YOUNG ER
POPULATION OF KIDS THAT WE CAN PREVENT FROM PUTTING THE GUNS
IN THEIR HANDS AND THE OTHER PART TWO IS, ARE THERE ANY
FUNDS WITHIN THIS GRANT THAT DOES ANY COMMUNITY MARKETING.
THINGS THAT -- JUST THAT THE EVERYDAY CITIZEN IN TAMPA.
WHAT WE SHOULD LOOK OUT FOR.
I KNOW WE SHOULD LOCK OUR CARS.
GET GUNS FROM CAR THAT ARE LEFT UNLOCKED WHICH IS
MIND-BLOWING TO ME.
MARKETING AND SAYING THE YOUTH.
03:08:44PM >> WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE YOUTH, WHAT I HAVE TO SAY WITH
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WITH PARKS AND REC AND CITY COUNCIL,
THERE IS A LOT OF PREVENTION GOING ON WITH OUR YOUTH WITH
OUR SROs, PROGRAMS WITH PARKS AND REC, STAY AND PLAY.
I HAVE MY OFFICERS GOING INTO THE HIGH SCHOOLS TALKING OF
BASEBALL AN FOOTBALL PROGRAMS WITH THE KIDS AND WHAT THEY
CAN DO IN LIFE TO STAY OUT OF TO YOU BELIEVE.
A LOT OF PREVENTION CONVERSATIONS GOING ON WITH THE YOUTH.
I WILL LET FREDDY TALK ON THE SECOND HALF, BUT ONE PORTION
THAT WE ARE MISSING FROM OUR YOUTH STANDPOINT, WHEN IT COMES
DOWN TO PREVENTION.
AND THAT IS HOW WE WORK WITH THAT FAMILY INTERNALLY.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT WITH THE KIDS ALL DAY LONG AND WHAT THEY
COULD AND SHOULD NOT DO, BUT WHEN THEY GO HOME, AND THEY ARE
DEALING WITH THEIR CLOSE FRIENDS AND FAMILY, THEY ARE
GETTING THE DIFFERENT MESSAGE FROM THEM WHEN IT COMES DOWN
TO THEIR BEHAVIOR.
THE PART OF THE GRANT THAT ALLOWS US TO KIND OF TAP INTO THE
FAMILY TO ME IS A VERY IMPORTANT PORT OF TRYING TO BE
PROACTIVE WITH THE YOUTH AND KEEPING THEM OUT OF TROUBLE.
03:09:50PM >> TO ANSWER THE SECOND QUESTION, THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THAT
FUNDING THAT IS SET ASIDE FOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR
OUR CHURCHES.
THE BIGGEST PUSH IS THE COMMUNITY ITSELF, THE CITY OF
TAMPA, TPD, SAFE AND SOUND.
NO ONE ORGANIZATION WITH SATURATE THEMSELVES AND GO THOUGHT
THE CITY.
WE STRATEGICALLY PLACE FOR LOCAL GROUPS, NEIGHBORHOOD
RESIDENTS TO DO BLOCK-BY-BLOCK MARKETING EVENTS TO SEND
PEOPLE OUT.
WE HAVE FUND WILLING TO HELP WITH EDUCATION AND AWARENESS.
SAFE AND SOUND.
WE FOCUS ON EDUCATIONAL AWARENESS.
DO ANOTHER FILM PUTTING OUT SCHOOLS IN THE COMMUNITY TO LET
OUR KIDS KNOW NOT JUST ABOUT OUR CHOICE BUT THE CONSEQUENCES
OF THOSE CHOICES.
WE ARE AGGRESSIVELY TACKLING THE STOP LEAVING GUNS IN CARS.
STOP LEAVING CARS IN FORAGES.
STOP LEAVING YOUR REMOTES IN THE CAR.
KIDS ARE UNDERSTANDING THEY CAN TAKE CAR REMOTES BECAUSE OF
THE CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY, YOU WILL GO OUT THE FRONT DOOR AND
NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE GARAGE.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LEAVE, THEY OPEN UP THE GARAGE WITH
THE REMOTE AND GET IN THE HOUSE.
TACKLING SOCIAL MEDIA.
KIDS TALK TO ONE ANOTHER AND DECIDE WHICH NEIGHBORHOOD THEY
WILL HIT AT ONE TECH DAY IN TIME.
THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY SATURATE THE COMMUNITY TO GET OUR
COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO TALK TO OUR PARENTS ARE THAT ARE OUT
THERE.
NOT JUST THE PARENT OF THE KIDS GETTING INVOLVED IN THIS.
BUT PARENTS WHO HAVE NO CLUE WHO THEIR KID IS HANGING OUT
WITH THAT WE HAVE TO WATCH AND TALK AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS
AND PUSH THOSE CONVERSATIONS OUT.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA IS RIGHT.
IT IS A DIFFERENT DAY.
TECHNOLOGY IS NOT OUR FRIEND IN THE BATTLE AGAINST GUN VIS
LENS OF THE SENSATIONALISM OF SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND WE ARE PUTTING MARKETING OUT THERE FOR OUR PARENT AS
WELL AS THE KIDS OURSELVES.
03:11:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN WE GET A MOTION TO MOVE THE
RESOLUTION.
03:11:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
03:11:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
NEXT IS ITEM 80 FOLLOWED BY 82.
03:12:01PM >>VIK BHIDE:
AFTERNOON, CHAIR.
AFTERNOON COUNSEL.
HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 0.
MOTION MADE BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON FOR AN UPDATE ON PAVING
OPERATIONS MAKING $7 MILLION AVAILABLE FROM THE PARKING
BUDGET TO MOBILITY FOR PAVING.
AND IT IS MY PLEASURE TO PROVIDE THIS UPDATE, BECAUSE WE
HAVE A VERY GOOD STORY TO TELL.
I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF WITH PLACES AND WHAT REMEMBER
DOING WITH IN-HOUSE PAVING, HOW WE HAVE EXPANDED THIS
PROGRAM, AND TALK OF THE CAPITAL PIECE OF IT AND HOW
REMEMBER USING THE FUNDS.
SO OUR OPERATIONS MANAGER BRIAN ROGER.
SEES 157 PEOPLE AND TRANSPORTATION CHIEF MIKE BROWN HAS DONE
OUTSTANDING WORK IN THIS AREA SINCE FEBRUARY, WE HAVE
EFFECTIVELY DOUBLED OUR PAVING CAPACITY.
WE HAVE DOUBLED IT.
AND EVEN IN THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING EQUIPMENT TO CAPACITY.
WE HAVE DONE THAT WITH RENTED EQUIPMENT.
WE HAVE NOT HIRED PEOPLE ABOUT EIGHT STAFF THAT WOULD HAVE
SERVED AS THE SECOND PAVING TEAM.
WE REPURPOSED FOLKS FROM OUR OPERATIONS TEAM.
AND WE WILL BACKFILL POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN THEM FROM
SO IS REALLY OUR OPERATIONS TEAM BEING EXTREMELY CREATIVE
AND THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AND WE HAVE TWO PAVING
TEAMS RIGHT NOW.
ONE IS WORKING IN HYDE PARK.
THE OTHER IS WORKING IN SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
A QUICK LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.
IF WE LOOK AT WHY WE ARE EXPANDING IN-HOUSE CAPABILITIES
INSTEAD OF CONTRACTOR, THE PRICE DIFFERENCE IS ABOUT 100%.
THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE.
WE CAN DO TWICE AS MUCH WORK BY EXPANDING THE CAPACITY TO
PAVE IN-HOUSE.
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, THAT BECOMES A MORE RESILIENT TEAM
BECAUSE WE ARE NOW LESS VULNERABLE TO MARKET FORCES,
INFLATIONS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
QUICK UPDATE OF BRIAN ROGERS AND MIKE BROWN AND HIS TEAMS.
WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN UP TO.
LOOKING OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE HAVE GENERALLY AVERAGED
ABOUT THREE TO FOUR MEALS PER MONTH, WHICH WAS ALSO
CONSISTENT EARLIER IN -- STARTING BETWEEN OCTOBER 1 AND
JANUARY.
THROUGH THEN WE DONE PROJECTS THAT INCLUDE OAKFORD PARK,
YBOR CITY, th AVENUE, PALMA CEIA, SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, PHASES
AND YBOR CITY, WE HAVE DONE A COUPLE OF LOTS OUT THIS AT
THAT POINT, AVERAGING TWO AND A HALF MILES.
WE ARE WORK FOR AN OLD PAVER AND THE RENTED EQUIPMENT.
THIS IN FEBRUARY, SINCE WE BROUGHT ON RENTAL EQUIPMENT,
REPURCHASED OUR TEAMS AND ALL OF THAT, WE ARE AT FIVE MILES
A MONTH.
OUR TARGET BY THE END OF THIS YEAR WAS TO GET TO EIGHT MILES
A MONTH AND WELL ON OUR WAY OF REACHING THAT TARGET.
THANKS TO THE CREATIVITY OF THIS TEAM, BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND
MARCH, SO THIS IS OAKFORD PARK.
ANOTHER LOT IN YBOR CITY.
INITIATED HIDE HYDE PARK WHICH IS 30% DONE AND SEMINOLE
HEIGHTS PHASE I THAT IS CURRENT UNDERGOING.
PORT TAMPA PHASE TWO, 15th AND 109th WEST.
MORGAN, QUICK BUILD.
HYDE PARK IS A QUICK WHETHER.
WE ARE MAKING CHANGES ON SWANN.
RELOCATING PARKING FROM SWANN AVENUE INTO SOME OF THE
NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF NOTIFYING THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND
ALL.
THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT AS THE TEAMS ARE PAVING AND
THE PURPOSE IS, WOODROW WILSON.
DOZENS OF STUDENTS THAT BIKE BOTH EAST AND WEST.
AND AN INCOMPLETE BIKE NETWORK.
MAINLY FOR STUDENTS AND COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY ON SWANN AS
WELL.
WE WILL BE DOING HENRY AT 0th, HABANA AT MLK.
SOUTH ARMENIA AROUND PLATT AND SWANN.
THAT AREA AND MORRISON AND THE CHURCH AROUND THE SWANN AREA.
ALL OF THIS WILL BE DONE WITH OUR INHOUSE TEAMS THIS YEAR.
ON SIDEWALKS, OUR ENGINEERING TEAM IS IN THE PROCESS OF
PUTTING OUT A $ MILLION DESIGN-BUILD CONTRACT AND SIDEWALK
GAPS AND IDENTIFIED IN THE MOVE'S PLANS.
MOST OF THESE AROUND SCHOOLS, PARKS.
AND THEY CORRELATE WITH SAFE ROUTES TO PLACES PROGRAM.
IT WILL BE A COMPETITIVE $2 MILLION PROGRAM WHICHEVER
CONTRACTOR IS BEST QUALIFIED AND DO MORE WORK WILL BE LESS
SELECTED AND IN THE MEANTIME, OPERATIONS TO DATE HAVE DONE
ABOUT 3800 LINEAR FEET OF SIDEWALK REPAIRS COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK, YOU ASKED ABOUT RIDGEWOOD PARK.
AND THEY WERE OUT THERE AND GRINDING AND COMPLETED AND THEY
MOVED ON.
SO THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED OUT THERE HOWEVER, BRIAN OR HIS
TEAM MEMBERS ARE IN RIDGEWOOD PARK AS WE SPEAK TO MAKE SURE
WE DID COMPLETE THE JOB AND WE DIDN'T LEAVE.
NOT A LOT OF DETAILS AND WE WILL FIGURE IT OUT AND GET BACK
TO IT.
THOSE WERE OPERATIONS.
ON THE CAPITAL SIDE, THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF
APPLICATION IN YEAR ON PAVING.
WE HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED TO DATE N. BOULEVARD.
WHAT YOU WERE SAYING COUNCILMAN MIRANDA ABOUT FULL
RECLAMATION GOING DOWN TO THE SHELLS.
BASICALLY IF YOU PAVE ON TOP OF EVERY LAYER WHICH IS WHAT WE
HAVE DONE FOR DECADES THAT BASE DEGRADES.
WE GO DOWN PAST THREE INCHES, EIGHT INCHES AND RE-ESTABLISH
THAT BASE.
THAT COST IS ABOUT THREE TIMES THE REFERRING RESURFACING
JOB.
MANY OF THE COLLECTORS WITHIN THE CITY ARE IN PAD SHAPE.
THESE ARE GOING TO BE COSTLY PROJECTS, BUT NO OPTION NOT TO
DO THEM BECAUSE STORMWATER ISSUES.
OTHER KIND OF ISSUES WITH THAT.
WE DID THAT FOR THAT JOB.
WE DID ROCKY POINT FROM COURTNEY CAMPBELL CAUSEWAY TO BAY
CLUB.
IN PROGRESS, SPRUCE FROM LOIS TO DALE MABRY.
FDR, FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION.
EAST TAMPA 4th STREET FROM CHELSEA TO EMMA.
GUPCOMING THIS YEAR IN VAR NEWS STAGES OFF OF RFQ DIRECTLY OR
COMPLETING DESIGN OR WORKING WITH OUR OPTIONS AS WELL.
THE FIRST IS THE CLEVELAND STREET QUICK BUILD FROM WILLOW TO
PARKER.
AND THAT IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEA.
WE ARE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF WILLOW,
THE OFF-RAMP JUST BEFORE WILLOW, WHICH IS NOT VERY SAFE AND
WE ARE IMPROVING THAT OUT THERE.
THAT WILL BE PARTIALLY THERE.
THE LEFT LANE IS UNDERUTILIZED.
AND WILL ADD TO THE UNSAFE CONDITIONS.
WE ARE ADDING ON-STREET PARKING WITH ALL OF THE ACTION AND
MOVING WESTWARD FROM THERE AND THE BIKE LINE WILL BE BEYOND
PARKING.
BIKE LANE ITSELF WILL BE SAFER 30th STREET MUCH NEEDED IN
DISTRICT.
THE FIRST PHASE, BOUGANVILLA TO YUKON, FROM JACKSON
TO BROREIN, A PROJECT THAT TRANSPORTATION IS DOING IN
PARKING.
WALKABILITY AROUND AND GARAGE.
AND THEN TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING WILL DO THE PAVING OF
THE ADDITIONAL BIKE FACILITIES OUT THERE.
AND MORGAN STREET QUICK BUILD.
THE ORIGIN OF THIS PROJECT IS DONE A CLASS WITH USF, CIVIL
ENGINEERING.
THEY PICKED THIS CORRIDOR.
AND FINALLY BROREIN STREET WILL BE A FULL DEPTH RECLAMATION
FROM ASHLEY.
THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN THIS YEAR.
WE ARE TRYING TO GET IT OUT AND OTHER FACTORS AS WELL.
LOOKING AT A POTENTIAL WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS A ONE WAY.
A HUGE BENEFIT.
I WON'T GO INTO DETAILS, BUT IF YOU ARE COMING OFF OF 275
ONCE YOU GET TO BROREIN.
THE ONLY OPTION TO GO SOUTH IS THE S CURVE WHICH IS HUGE
PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.
NO NETWORK AT THAT POINT.
YOU CAN GO TO FRANKLIN AND ASHLEY AND THAT CREATES
ADDITIONAL NETWORK BENEFITS.
I WILL STOP THERE, AND WILL PUT MONEY OF ALL OF THE DATA.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE AN PALE IF YOU FUND OUR TEAMS, WE
CAN EVEN DO MORE.
I AM SURE WE WILL LEARN THROUGH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WE ARE
GROWING VERY RAPIDLY.
BUT -- BUT WE WILL GET TO A MUCH BETTER PLACE CONTINUOUSLY.
I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
03:22:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
03:22:41PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ACCIDENTALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT OAKFORD PARK AND I WENT
TO SEE SOMEONE ON A PRIVATE MATTER.
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
FROM CYPRESS TO CAN ENEMY, FROM MacDILL TO HIMES, IT LOOKS
VERY, VERY NIECE.
AND WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
IT IS -- I NOTICED SOMETHING ELSE ON PALMETTO GOING EAST.
AND I SAW ALL THE SIDEWALKS.
THE WATER TABLE.
EITHER LIFTED OR LOWER IT.
HOWEVER, THERE IS ONE, IF I MAY, I AM NOT HERE TO ASK YOU TO
DO ANY SPECIAL FAVORS, BUT 4414 NORTHDALE.
DALE IS ONE BLOCK SOUTH OF -- OF CLEVELAND.
THAT POOR GENTLEMAN HAS BEEN AFTER ME FOR EIGHT MONTH.
EVERY TIME I SEE HIM IN THE RESTAURANT.
HE ASKS ME THE SAME QUESTION.
I SAID I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT.
I HAVE TAKEN CARE OF IT.
BUT IF YOU HAVE A GRINDER, I WILL GO DO IT MYSELF.
03:23:44PM >>VIK BHIDE:
I MADE A NOTE OF IT AND WILL FOLLOW UP.
03:23:48PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM NOT TRYING TO EMBARRASS YOU --
03:23:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DON'T NEED TO PUT THE BID OUT.
03:23:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PULL HIM IN ONE
DEPARTMENT.
PULL HIM FROM HERE WITH AT FAULT.
03:24:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WOULD DRIVE THE TRUCK.
03:24:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I KNEW WOULD YOU TAKE THE EASY JOB.
03:24:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I WANT TO GO TO HABANA WITH A WEED
WHACKER AND A MEDIAN AND WAY OVERGROWN.
I CAN DO IT.
03:24:14PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WELL --
03:24:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:24:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
ONE REFERENCES THE FUNDING.
I SEE SOMEBODY SITTING BEHIND YOU AND TO YOUR LEFT.
FISCAL YEAR '25.
PAVING BUDGET.
LET'S GET -- LET'S GET THIS MONEY -- AND I AM HOPING TO
TRIPLE THE PAVING BUDGET.
I AM REALLY TRYING.
YOU HAVE 100% SAVING BRINGING THIS IN HOUSE.
GOOD RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TAXPAYERS AND WHAT PEOPLE IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA DOES.
KUDOS FOR YOU GUYS DOING THAT.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO EXPANDING OPPORTUNITIES.
IN HOUSE, DO WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF DOING THE DECK
REPAIRS AS WELL OR JUST PAVING.
03:25:02PM >> RIGHT NOW IT IS JUST PAVING, BUT WE HAVE A PRETTY
AMBITIOUS.
WE WILL ADD TO OUR CAPABILITIES.
03:25:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SOMETHING WE CAN REASONABLY BRING IN-HOUSE
IF WE HAD THE FUND SOMETHING IN.
03:25:16PM >>VIK BHIDE:
IT WILL TAKE A FEW YEARS.
OUR NEXT FOCUS WILL BE ON EXPANDING PAVING WILL BE ABLE TO
DO OUR OWN SIDEWALKS.
03:25:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL RIGHT.
03:25:23PM >>VIK BHIDE:
ONCE WE ARE ABLE TO DO OUR OWN CON CREATE WORK,
WE WILL DO MORE BIKE LANES AS WELL, BECAUSE THE SEPARATORS
AND CRETE --
03:25:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MISS DUNCAN.
LET'S GET THAT DONE.
GET THAT FUNDED.
WE WITH THE -- THIS IS A BRILLIANT IDEA.
THEY WANT THEIR SIDEWALKS AND THEIR STREETS PAVED.
THIS IS SOMETHING -- IF WE CAN -- AND -- IF THIS IS
SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN HOUSE AND DO DOUBLE WHAT WE COULD DO
BEFORE, MAN, LET'S DO IT AND PUT OUR FOOT ON THE
ACCELERATOR.
WE ARE HAPPY TO SEE AND I HAVE SEEN IT ALL OVER TOWN, SOME
OF THE -- MORE SO THAN I HAD IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
AND I DO SEE IT WITH MY OWN EYES.
I APPRECIATE IT.
MY NEIGHBORS SEE IT.
AND AT THE RISK OF SOUNDING MORE LIKE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
A SIDEWALK ON BAYSHORE THAT GOES BETWEEN SWANN AND BREVARD.
SUBSTANDARD.
AND TILTS THE WRONG WAY.
ONE OF THOSE ELECTRONIC CROSSWALKS.
WHEN IT RAINS, IT IS FILLED WITH WATER AND DOESN'T DRAIN.
I WAS TOLD IN THE BOB BUCKHORN ADMINISTRATION IT WAS GOING
TO GET REPAIRED.
I GET HAMMERED ON IT ALL THE TIME FROM NEIGHBORS BECAUSE IT
POOLS WATER AND DAY THERE IS FOR DAYS ON END.
BECAUSE OF THE GRADIENT THERE.
YOU HAVE TO BUILDING IT UP AND MOVE IT OUT.
IT SEEMS WEIRD FOR PEOPLE TO CROSS THE ELECTRONIC CROSSWALK
AND WALK IN THE MIDDLE OF LAKE IN THE SUMMERTIME.
ONE SPECIFIC ISSUE AND I HELP TO BRING OUT SOMETHING SO
SPECIFIC WHEN YOU DID SUCH A GREAT JOB.
AGAIN, KUDOS.
I REALLY APPRECIATE -- ONE MORE THING.
A LITTLE BELL WENT OFF IN MY HEAD WITH FLORIDA, TAMPA, FT.
BROOKE, STREET CAR WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS NOT GOING TO
FACILITATE THAT TO RIP SOMETHING BACK UP.
03:27:20PM >> WILL FACILITATE THE STREET CAR AND THAT IS SOMETHING WHEN
WE TALK OF THE ACCELERATOR.
03:27:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE ACCELERATOR.
03:27:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:27:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
A VERY EXCITING UPDATE AS OTHERS HAVE SAID.
THE PAVE SOMETHING VERY OBVIOUS AROUND TOWN.
DOESN'T MATTER WHERE I GO, IT SEEMS TO BE TOUCHING EVERY
PART OF THE CITY AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE ARE BEING
EQUITABLE ABOUT IT.
I DO APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT WHAT I WOULD LOVE FROM YOUR TEAM AND I AM ONLY GOING TO
ASK THIS BECAUSE YOU SET THE EXPECTATION BAR SO HIGH BECAUSE
I LOVE YOUR STORMWATER REPORTS, MAPS.
IT JUST WOULD BE REALLY HANDY INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT THIS
TO SHOW.
EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEM SEPARATE.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
WHAT IS COMING.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT A BIG TIME TABLE BUT IN THE NEXT SIX
MONTHS, WE ARE EXPECTING TO DO THIS I THINK THE PUBLIC WOULD
LOVE THAT.
THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT AND
MAYBE AFTER YOU REPORT TO US, PUT IT UP ON OUR WEB SITE.
I WOULDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD CAUSE YOU TOO MUCH
MORE FOR PEOPLE CALLING IN.
BUT PREPARES PEOPLE AND SAYS IT IS COMING TO MY
NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.
THIS IS A VERY TANGIBLE THING THAT THE CITY OF TAMPA DOES
AND I WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO SHOUT YOUR -- YOU KNOW, YOUR
SUCCESS FROM THE ROOF TOPS.
CONGRATULATIONS.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU WERE TALKING OF REPLACING
ALL OF THE SUBSTRATE, WE WERE AT -- I WAS AT THE SOUTHEAST
SEMINOLE HEIGHTS MEETING ON TUESDAY NIGHT.
AND THEY SAID THAT THE SUBSTRATE AT -- ON NEBRASKA NORTH OF
HILLSBOROUGH, 24 INCHES.
24 INCHES.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW YOU TAKE -- I MEAN THAT IS A WHOLE
DIFFERENT CAN OF WORMS.
AND THEN YOU HAVE UNDER THERE, YOU GOT ALL THE PIPES.
03:29:29PM >>VIK BHIDE:
WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THAT RIGHT NOW.
YOU ARE TALKING 24 INCHES.
03:29:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YEAH.
03:29:33PM >> CLEARANCE BETWEEN THE PAVEMENT AND THE INLET TOP AS WELL.
SO THAT ABSOLUTELY.
03:29:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EVERYTHING UNDER THAT.
SO THEY SAY THREE MONTH.
THAT IS WISHFUL THINKING.
BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU.
03:29:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU NEED A TAG LINE.
GOOD MORNING, TAMPA.
I LOVE THE SMELL OF ASPHALT IN THE MORNING.
03:29:55PM >> ABSOLUTELY.
AND ON THE MAPS, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, REAL QUICK,
COINCIDENTALLY, THE TEAM WAS DISCUSSING THIS TODAY, SO JOSH
WHO IS OUR COM PERSON, A ROCK STAR.
HE HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.
HE AND SARAH.
THEY TAKE ALL OF THE CALLS BY THE WAY, THE CUSTOMER SERVICE
CALLS AND PAVING BEING OUR NUMBER ONE CONCERN IS A BIG DEAL.
AND THE REST OF THE TEAM.
WE ARE ALL GOING TO PUT THE PCI MAP ON OUR WEB SITE.
AS WE RESURFACE EVEN NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WILL PUT THE MAPS OUT
THERE AS WELL.
BUT THESE MAPS DO GO OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND THE DOOR
HANGERS THAT WE HAVE.
AND THE IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY SEES IT, BUT HE UNDERSTAND
GIVEN THIS IS THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT THAT THE COMMUNITY
SEES WHAT THE CONDITION IS CITYWIDE AND WHERE WE ARE WORKING
AND GOING NEXT.
03:30:50PM >> THAT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME.
REPORTS FOR STORMWATER ARE VERY CLEAR AND SUCCINCT.
IT DOESN'T SURPRISE ME THAT YOU STARTED WORKING ON THAT.
THANK YOU.
03:30:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:31:01PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU, VIK FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR THE
FIRST OF THE PRESENTATIONS.
NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT OR CONCERN I GET IS ABOUT ROAD
CONDITIONS AND SO APPRECIATE YOU DOING THIS YOU PRESENTING
YOURSELF ALLOW US TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC WHICH IS GREAT.
A LOT OF YOU WILL APPRECIATE YOU ARE TAKING THINGS ON HOUSE.
KUDOS TO THAT AS WELL.
AND BRINGING THE COST DOWN.
IF YOU DO IT ON SIDEWALKS, IT WILL BRING THE COSTS DOWN WHAT
WE ARE PROVIDING DEVELOPERS.
AND THE.
03:31:33PM >>VIK BHIDE:
ABSOLUTELY.
03:31:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE OTHER THING IS THAT AS I UNDERSTOOD, I
THINK SOME PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC BELIEVE THAT THE PRIORITY OF
THE -- OF THE ROAD REPAIR WAS OUTLINED IN TAMPA MOVES.
SO WE HAVE AN EXPECTATION THAT -- THAT PRIORITY LIKE THAT IS
GOING TO BE FOLLOWED.
AND SOMETIMES I HAVEN'T CHECKED MYSELF, BUT FOLKS SAY IT
APPEARS THAT SOME ROADS -- THEY CAN SEE WHAT ROADS ARE BEING
REPAIRED.
THEY THINK SOME ROADS ARE BEING REPAIRED OUT OF ORDER.
IS THERE A PLACE -- CAN YOU GO TO THE WEB SITE AND THAT IS
DEVELOPED AND GENERAL TIMELINE.
A WAY TO LOOK AT THAT THE.
03:32:15PM >>VIK BHIDE:
A VERY GOOD POINT AND WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON
PRESENTING THAT INFORMATION AND NOT THERE RIGHT NOW AND
TAMPA MOVES ESTABLISHING CRITERIA FOR REPAVING.
THAT CRITERIA IS MULTITHREADED AND NOT JUST PAVEMENT
CONDITION.
IT IS ALSO EQUITY, FOR EXAMPLE.
IT IS ALSO SAFETY.
SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE FACTORS OUT THERE.
SO WE ARE CONSTANTLY HAVING TO BALANCE TWO THINGS.
ONE IS WHAT DOES THE OBJECTIVE DATA TELL US BASED ON THE
CRITERIA THAT WAS SET UP.
IT IS MUCH EASIER TO DO THAT WITH SIDEWALKS, FOR EXAMPLE.
BECAUSE YOU EITHER HAVE A FUNCTIONS SIDEWALK AND DON'T.
WITH THE ROADWAY, THE DESIGN AND EVERYTHING ELSE COMES INTO
PLAY AND THE OTHER IS RAPID DEGRADATION.
A LOT OUR FACILITIES DEGRADE FAST.
03:33:06PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU WENT THROUGH THAT FOUR OR FIVE-YEAR
PROCESS TO DEVELOP TAMPA MOVES, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR
US AND THE PUBLIC IF THAT PRIORITY AND THE OBJECTIVE
ANALYSIS IS LISTED.
03:33:16PM >>VIK BHIDE:
YES.
03:33:17PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BECAUSE OTHERWISE, FOLKS THINK THAT THE
SQUEAKY WHEEL GETS COVERED.
SOMEBODY CALLS THE MAY COLOR AND US AND THINK THEY JUMP TO
THE TOP OF THE LINE.
IF THEY SEE IT IS OBJECTIVE AND FAIR, THEY ARE FOLLOWING
WAIT A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
NOT FOREVER, BUT A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH BUDGET YOU ARE GOING TO ASK FOR ROAD
REPAIR THIS YEAR?
03:33:41PM >>VIK BHIDE:
CURRENTLY, WE HAVE A BUDGET TARGET THAT WE BACK
INTO.
WHICH IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
HAVING SAID THAT, THAT AN ONGOING PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AT LEAST THAT MUCH MORE AS WE DID
IN FY '25 WHICH WAS $2 MILLION IF NOT MORE WHAT I CAN ASSURE
YOU THAT WE ARE POSITIONING OURSELVES IN A PLACE THAT
WHATEVER BUDGET IS MADE AVAILABLE TOO US WE MAKE SURE IT IS
ENCUMBERED IN THE FISCAL YEAR.
03:34:14PM >> THE FEELING OF THE PUBLIC IS THAT -- WE WENT THROUGH
GREAT RECESSION, BUT THEN THERE WERE EFFORTS TO -- TO BRING
IN -- ONE OF THE LEADER IS IN THE BACK THE ROOM AND THOSE
TAXES DIDN'T GO THROUGH AND THE PUBLIC FEELS THAT IN
ANTICIPATION OF THE TAX REVENUES THAT THE BUDGETS WERE KEPT
ARTIFICIALLY LOW.
I THINK THE PUBLIC DOESN'T THINK OF IT IF IT IS $4 MILLION
AND RAISE IT TO $5 MILLION, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN $50 MILLION
AND $100 MILLION AND WE ARTIFICIALLY KEPT IT LOW.
THE PERCEPTION WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH.
IN YEARS PAST, YOU ASKED US TO APPROVE LIST OF THE $60
MILLION, $80 MILLION THAT WE WOULD HAVE PAID IF THE STAFF
GAVE US THAT FUNDING.
NOW GOING THROUGH FDOT AND SETTING ONLY ROAD REPAIR AS A
PRIORITY.
ARE YOU GOING TO RECONFIGURE THAT LIST AND ABOUT I THINK IT
BACK TO US?
WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT?
03:35:15PM >>VIK BHIDE:
OUR LAST MEETING WITH FDOT, NOT CLEAR EXACTLY
HOW THE FUNDS WILL MAKE IT TO F DOT.
THEY WILL MAKE IT TO FDOT, A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT WE
DISCUSSED AND ALL THAT MONEY WILL GO TO PAVING.
WE INITIALLY PROVIDED LIST TO POLICYMAKERS AT THE SESSION AT
THE TIME.
AND IT IS JUST GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
EVERYTHING IS APPROVED AND GOES BACK.
03:35:41PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF YOU COULD, BECAUSE THE LIST INCLUDED
THINGS BESIDES ROAD REPAIRS AND MAYBE YOU CAN COME BACK.
LAST THING, I HAVE TO MENTION NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL WHICH HAS
THE WORST ROADS IN THE STATE AND THE CITY.
THEY REALLY NEED TO BE REBRICKED FOR THE SAME THAT YOU
MENTIONED BEFORE OF DRAINAGE.
WE NEED TO COST MORE OF REBRICK, BUT PROTECT THE BRICKS AS
WE VOTED ON COUNCIL BEFORE.
THANK YOU.
03:36:03PM >> WE ARE COMMITTED ON THAT.
AND WE REACHED OUT TO THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES PETER
SPECIFICALLY.
AND -- AND WHAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO THEM IS WE WILL HAVE A
WORKSHOP WITH THEM.
LET'S UNDERSTAND AND MAP OUT WHAT IS GOING ON.
IN THE MEANTIME, OUR OPS TEAM WILL DO THE NORTH-SOUTH STREET
THAT CAN BE PAVED WITHOUT ANY CHALLENGES.
AND THE BUDGET ITEM I DO WANT TO CLARIFY.
HISTORICALLY, WE DID NOT HAVE THE FUNDS.
IT WAS PARKING DOING MUCH BETTER THAN IT HAS HISTORICALLY
THAT HAS MADE THAT OPPORTUNITY AVAILABLE LAST YEAR.
SO WE DO LOOK FORWARD TO REINVESTING PARKING INTO MOBILITY
PRIORITIES, BUT, IT IS A MATTER OF WHAT WE INVEST IN
ULTIMATELY.
03:36:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
03:36:53PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THANK YOU.
03:36:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 82.
AND I SEE MISS DUNCAN HERE.
MISS DUNCAN?
IT IS YOUR ITEM, 82.
03:37:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COME ON DOWN.
YOU ARE THE NEXT CONTESTANT.
03:37:13PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
JEAN DUNCAN, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY.
WE ARE HERE TO TALK OF THE ITEM REFERENCING THE PROJECTS
APPROVED BY COUNCIL TO BE ADDED TO THE CIP AND CONTRACT
APPROVAL.
IF YOU DON'T MIND, I WANT TO SHOW WHAT CURRENTLY IS THE
PROCESS SO YOU HAVE THE BASELINE.
A COUPLE OF THINGS I THREW TOGETHER TO PUT ON THE ELMO.
I MADE COPIES OF THOSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT THEM HANDED TO YOU OR NOT.
LAST-MINUTE THOUGHT THAT A VISUAL MAY BE HELPFUL.
IF WOULD YOU LIKE THOSE, MY ASSISTANT -- [ LAUGHTER ] -- THE
BRAINS OF THE ORGANIZATION HERE WILL PASS THOSE ALONG.
03:37:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYTHING HE IS NOT A SUBJECT MATTER
EXPERT?
03:37:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE LONGEST SERVING CITY MEMBER?
03:38:02PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
HE IS IN THE COMPETITION.
HE IS RIGHT UP THERE.
HE KNOWS HE CAN'T LEAVE.
HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO LEAVE.
SO JUST VERY QUICKLY -- I WILL WAIT UNTIL YOU GET YOUR
HANDOUT.
THIS IS JUST A REAL QUICK OVERVIEW.
AGAIN WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW -- YOU CAN HAVE THAT START
FROM.
SO CURRENTLY WE -- WE START OUT OBVIOUSLY WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WE DO EVERY FIVE YEARS.
AND WE SUBMIT IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, A LOT OF
COORDINATION ON THAT AND FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHICH
INCLUDES THE LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, WE DEVELOP OUR
MASTER PLANS.
MASTER PLANS FOR PIPES, WASTEWATER.
DEVELOP THE MOVES PLAN FOR MOBILITY.
WE HAVE THE STORMWATER PLAN WHICH WE REVIEWED WHEN WE DID
THE STORMWATER ASSESSMENT.
OUR SOLID WASTE TRANSITION PLAN CURRENTLY WORKING ON AN
UPDATED MASTER PLAN FOR SOUTHWEST.
WE TAKE THE BIG PICTURE OF THE COMP PLAN AND THE LONG-RANGE
PLAN.
AND FROM THE IT IS A LITTLE NOR GRANULAR.
FROM THE MASTER PLAN, WE DEVELOPED THE PROJECT LIST AND
PRIORITIES.
THE FIRST STEP IT IS PRESENTED WHEN THE MAYOR PRESENTS A
BUDGET EVERY YEAR WITH THOSE PARTICULARS IN IT.
OBVIOUSLY NEXT STEP IS TO HAVE THE BUDGET WORKSHOP TO TALK
OF OPERATING AND CAPITAL PROJECTS.
WE HAVE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING BETWEEN THE FIRST PUBLIC
HEARING AND THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT CIP OFTEN TWEAKED BY COUNCIL WITH PARTICULAR INTEREST
THAT YOU HAVE.
LAST YEAR WAS PAVING DISCUSSIONS.
ONE YEAR WAS CASCADING POOL.
WHATEVER THE INTERESTS ARE, WHETHER BIG OR SMALL, THOSE
ADJUSTMENTS ARE TWEAKED ACCORDINGLY TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE.
AND THAT BUDGET IS PART OF THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WHICH,
OF COURSE, GOES TO APPROVAL AND EVERY YEAR WE TAKE THE
APPROVED CIP LIST FROM THE BUDGET APPROVAL AND SUBMIT THAT
TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH APPROVES IT AS WELL.
AND FROM THAT POINT, THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS ARE THEN
STUDIED FURTHER OR PROCURED THROUGH EITHER AN RFP PROCESS OR
A RFQ BID PROCESS.
ANY CONTRACT ASSOCIATED WITH ANY OF THE PROCUREMENTS
OBVIOUSLY COMES TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL, AND THE PROJECT
FINANCING IS ALSO APPROVED BY COUNCIL WHETHER IT IS BONDING,
WHETHER IT IS SOME OTHER DEAD ISSUANCE.
WHATEVER THE MECHANISM.
RECENTLY, ADDITIONAL FRAMEWORK PUT ON THIS PROCESS IS THE
RESOLUTION FOR ANYTHING OVER $20 MILLION NEEDS TWO VOTES.
AND WE ALSO ADDED THE MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER IF WE START
OUT WITH AN ESTIMATE FOR AN RFQ FOR A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT
AND THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT MORE THAN DOUBLES THROUGH OUR
PROCESS, THEN WE HAVE GOT TO REVISIT THAT RFQ.
OFTEN WE MAY HAVE TO GO OUT TO BID AGAIN.
WE HAVE TO TAKE THE APPROPRIATE STEPS FOR THE FACT THAT WE
HAVE EXCEEDED THE DOUBLING AMOUNT.
AND ONE OF THE REAL QUICK SLIDE OF STAFF.
WE HAVE WEEKLY BRIEFS WITH CITY COUNCIL.
WE HAVE A ONE-ON-ONE BRIEFS THAT WE OFFER PROACTIVELY TO YOU
OR REACTIVELY IF YOU ARE ASKING THAT GRADE PLAN AND REPORT
COMING UP MAY 23 NEXT MONTH.
THAT INCLUDES, OF COURSE, THE PIPES UPDATE AS WELL DOING THE
STORMWATER QUARTERLY REPORT AND WE APPRECIATE THE POSITIVE
FEEDBACK ON THAT.
REVENUE AND FINANCE EVERY MONTH SUBMITS A MONTHLY CIP
REPORT.
AN ANNUAL DEBT PROGRAM UPDATE RELATED TO THE FINANCING OF
THE CIPs.
WE DELIVER THE STATEMENT FOR EACH BOND THAT IS ISSUED.
AND, OF COURSE, THEY ARE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT OUR BOND
RATINGS WITH THE'S OF BOND BALANCE VERSUS PAY GO.
THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
AND OBVIOUSLY AS YOU KNOW.
ANY TIME ANYONE WOULD LIKE A FIELD TRIP TO EITHER A MAJOR
ASSET SUCH AS A PLANT OF SOME SORT OR AN ACTUAL SITE IRS IT.
A SIDEWALK PROBLEM.
WE ARE INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING THOSE AND WE HAVE PUBLIC
MEETINGS, SOMETIMES MULTIPLE PUBLIC MEETINGS PRIOR TO
CONSTRUCTION DURING CONSTRUCTIONS ON THE LARGE AND SMALL
PROJECTS.
I WILL STOP HERE.
WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW.
AND DENNIS, OUR CFO, BRAD, THE KNOW IT ALL OF EVERYTHING,
RICHARD MUDDERBACK OF CAD AND LEGAL TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
THAT YOU MAY HAVE OF THE CURRENT PROJECT.
THANK YOU.
03:43:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:43:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I ACTUALLY JUST HAD MY MONTHLY BUDGET MEETING WITH
MR. ROGERO AND CHIEF OF STAFF YESTERDAY TO -- JUST LEARNING
OF THE WHOLE BUDGETING.
WE CAME UP WITH A -- WE FOCUSED ON THE CIP ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO INCLUDE AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR
WAYS TO DO IT.
HOW DO WE DETERMINE WHAT IS DIFFERENT.
AND THE QUICK WAY TO DO THAT IS TO GIVE A LITTLE EXECUTIVE
SUMMARY.
WHAT IS NEW ON THIS.
WHAT HAS FALLEN.
AND TO ALSO INCLUDE ANY BUDGETARY CHANGES.
SO IF SOMETHING CHANGES FROM $10 MILLION AND NOW THEY WANT
TO ALLOCATE $20 MILLION, THAT IS A RED FLAG TOO THAT WE NEED
TO KNOW ABOUT.
AND I DIDN'T MENTION THAT YESTERDAY, BUT IT KIND OF CAME TO
ME.
SO -- OR CALENDAR CHANGES.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, FIRE STATION 24 WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE WE HAD
THE MONEY AND IT WAS THERE, BUT IT WAS -- WAS NOT ALLOCATED
OR WAS NOT USED FOR A CERTAIN YEAR AND INSTEAD MOVED AND WE
DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS HAD WE LOOKED FOR IT.
SO IF THERE ARE ANY CHANGES.
LITTLE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THAT KIND OF GIVES US A BIRDS-EYE
MAJOR CHANGE FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.
I THINK IT WILL HELP A LOT WITH THIS.
THAT IS WHAT I AM HOPING THAT WE CAN DO FOR THE NEXT FISCAL
'25 BUDGET.
AND I THINK FOR ME, THAT IS A REALLY GOOD MARKER, BECAUSE
WHEN I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE -- THE PROJECT ITSELF, I WANT
TO KNOW FOR THE BIGGEST THING FOR US THAT WE ARE SIMPLY THE
FINANCIAL ARM.
I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT BUDGET IS.
AND IF I DISAGREE WITH THAT OR IF WE AS A BODY DISAGREES
WITH IT, THAT IS THE TIME TALK ABOUT IT.
03:45:31PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
IF I MAY, COUNCILWOMAN.
A GREAT SUGGESTION.
ONE OF THE THINGS INTERNALLY WITH STAFF, WE WORKED WITH THE
BUDGET OFFICE TO CREATE THE NEW VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION FORM.
WHAT THAT IS, WE WANT EVERYONE TO BE KEENLY AWARE OF CERTAIN
DUE DILIGENCE WE SHOULD BE DOING IF WE ARE STARTING TO
JOURNEY ON ANY VERTICAL CONSTRUCTION.
OF COURSE THE HORIZONTAL PROJECTS ARE CHALLENGING BUT IT
SEEMS TO BE MORE VERTICAL ONES THAT WE MENTION TODAY THAT
GET A LOT OF ATTENTION, OF COURSE, A LOT OF PUBLIC INTEREST
AND NEED MORE COMMUNICATION.
THAT IS JUST THE INTERNAL CHECKPOINT.
AND THAT WILL BE A VERY EASY THINGS TO EXTRACT FROM THE VERY
BEGINNING OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.
WHAT IS THE NEW VERTICAL PROJECTS YOU ARE CONSIDERING.
DIFFERENT THINGS TO BE MORE INFORMATIVE BEYOND WHAT THE
PROCESS OUTLINES FOR US.
03:46:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:46:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I 100% SECOND WHAT SHE JUST SAID.
TRANSPARENCY ON THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
THERE ARE CASES WHERE NUMBERS CHANGES AND NOT EXPLICIT AND
WE THE AND THE PUBLIC DIDN'T SEE IT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE
THIS SIDE BY SIDE.
CAN YOU PUT THE CHART BACK UP, PLEASE.
THE CIP PROCESS.
03:46:54PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
YES.
03:46:55PM >> JUST TO POINT OUT TO STAFF AND THE PUBLIC, THIS SAYS CIP
PROCESS, NOT PROJECT PROGRESS.
I MADE THE MOTION WITH SUPPORT FROM COLLEAGUES, BUT IF YOU
LOOK AT -- IF YOU GO THROUGH THIS.
SO COMP PLAN, MASTER PLAN, MAYOR'S BUDGET, BUDGET WORKSHOP,
FIRST HEARING, SECOND HEARING.
ALL THAT IS THE CIP.
WHAT THAT MEANS, A WHOLE BUNCH OF PROJECTS LISTED TOGETHER
AND MAY BE SOME DETAIL.
AND A BUNCH OF PROJECTS TOGETHER TIME THING CIP AND PROJECTS
SUBMITTED FOR CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
ONLY UNTIL THE LAST FOUR BOXES REALLY THAT WE START TO TALK
OF A PROJECT SPECIFICALLY AND REALLY IN THE LAST TWO WHICH
IS -- OR THE LAST ONE THAT COMES TO US FOR CONTRACT
APPROVAL.
WHAT I AM SUGGESTING IS THAT WE -- AND THE GREAT EIGHT
PRESENTATION IS GREAT.
AND IT IS A LOT MORE TRANSPARENCY THAN WE HAD BEFORE, BUT I
THINK WHAT WE NEED IS INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS PRESENTED.
WHEN I WAS TALKING OF JUSTICE AND LEGAL, I UNDERSTAND THAT
CITY COUNCIL'S CHARTER ROLE TO APPROVE CONTRACTS AND APPROVE
COST.
SO I BELIEVE IN STICKING STRICTLY TO THE CHARTER AND NOT
TRYING TO USURP THE MAYOR'S POWERS.
A GOOD IDEA TO PREVENT CONFLICT IF WE WOULD HAVE A WHAT I
CALL CONCEPT APPROVAL.
MAYBE TO SOMETHING BETTER.
CONTRACT APPROVAL EARLY ON BEFORE THE MAYOR FRIENDS TO -- IN
THE BUDGET
AND AS YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR PRESENTS SOME THINGS AND CHIEF OF
STAFF PRESENTS AND CFO PRESENTS.
INSTEAD OF PRESENTING PROJECTS IN LIST OF 10, 20 OR
WHATEVER, INDIVIDUAL PROJECT PRESENTATIONS AND MAYBE GIVE A
STRAW VOTE TO SAY WHAT WE SHOULD BELIEVE ON.
SHOULD TRUE THE PROCESS AND WHAT IT COSTS AND THE FINANCING
MECHANISM IS IN CONCEPT.
WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT SOMETIMES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CIP,
STAFF SAY DON'T WORRY, YOU CAN HAVE ANOTHER BITE OF THE
APPLE AND REJECT IT LATER ON.
WHEN IT COMES TO THE FINAL VOTE, CASES WHERE THE
ADMINISTRATION AND SUBCONTRACTORS HAD PR AND POLITICAL
PEOPLE OUT THERE SELLING THE PUBLIC TO CRITICIZE US IF WE
LOOK AT NOT SUPPORTING SOMETHING IN THE END.
ALL AND COULD BE RESOLVED WAY BEFORE ANYBODY SUBMITTED ANY
SPECIFIC DOLLAR AMOUNT OR SPECIFIC PROJECT.
I THINK IT IS BETTER WAITING UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE.
OTHERWISE, WHAT WILL HAPPEN A BIG STANDOFF AT THE CIP
DISCUSSION AND IF YOU HAVE 20 PROJECTS IN THERE, THAT WILL
BE A VERY LONG MEETING.
I WOULD RATHER THE BIG DISCUSSION OF AN INDIVIDUAL PROJECT
NOT HAPPEN WITH CIP OR HAPPEN ON THE CONTRACT STAGE.
AND THAT IS WHEN THE STAFF SAID WE PUT A YEAR'S WORTH OF
WORK AND CONTRACTORS.
AND ALL THAT DISCUSSION CAN BE HANDLED EARLIER.
SOMETIMES IT WORKS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AND SOMETIMES IT
DOESN'T.
FORCING SOMETHING THROUGH AND SELLING THE PUBLIC AND PUSHING
POLITICS, INSTEAD SHOULD BUILD CONSENSUS AT THE PETITION
BEGINNING SO WE CAN ALL BUY INTO IT AND THE COMMUNITY BUY
INTO IT AND HAVE A SMOOTH PROCESS BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE
CONTRACT.
I WOULD SUGGEST SOMEWHERE MAYBE JUST BEFORE AFTER THE
MAYOR'S BUDGET PRESENTATION THAT THERE BE A CONCEPT
DISCUSSION FOR EACH MAJOR PROJECT.
AT LEAST PROJECTS ABOVE $5 MILLION OR $10 MILLION.
03:50:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA, HENDERSON AND MIRANDA.
03:50:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NO.
03:50:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SO VIERA, HENDERSON AND CLENDENIN.
03:50:42PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU.
I GET WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON IS TRYING TO DO AND I GET THE
COMMENTS OF POTENTIALLY USURPING THE MAYOR'S ROLE OR
WHATEVER.
THIS IS -- I THINK THE STEPS THAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT ARE
PART OF GOVERNMENT AND GREAT FOR TRANSPARENCY.
HOW THAT CAN BE DONE PROCEDURALLY, WE WILL SEE HOW THAT IS.
I DO WANT TO BRING UP.
I WAS OUT FOR SOMETHING FOR MY SON, AND I HEARD THE COMMENT
OF FIRE STATION 24.
I DID WANT TO SET FOR THE RECORD THE LEGEND OF TAMPA FIRE
STATION 4 IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENED I THINK I SAID THIS
BEFORE AND I THINK I WILL SAY IT AGAIN.
ORIGINALLY THERE WERE PLANS FOR A NEW TAMPA FIRE STATION,
HYPOTHETICALLY.
CHIEF TRIPP WAS NOT A BIG FAN OF HAVING ANOTHER FIRE STATION
IN K-BAR RANCH.
FEW YEARS AGO, FIRE STATION 13.
A FIRE FIGHTER CALLED ME OVER THERE AND SAID APPRECIATE THE
NEW VEHICLE THAT YOU ALL GOT US, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, NOT
GETTING THE JOB DONE.
WE ARE STILL GETTING OUR BUTTS KICKED OUT HERE.
I STARTED PUSHING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE ANOTHER
NORTH TAMPA FIRE STATION WHICH WILL BECOME STATION NUMBER
25.
MYSELF AND JOE GRECO WENT TO SPEAK WITH THE MAYOR AND CHIEF
TRIPP AND SAID LET'S MAKE THIS THE NEW PRIORITY.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR.
AND THIS BECAUSE WHENEVER I HAVE A PROJECT IN THE
WORKS AND MR. ROGERO KNOWS THIS, AYE I AM A PAIN IN THE BUTT
ON THIS -- I STICK ON IT AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.
TO THE EXTENT IT MAY HAVE BEEN TO THE CIP OR SOMETHING, I
DON'T KNOW.
HOWEVER THAT WORKS, BUT TFR -- THE UNION WAS NEVER TOLD A
NEW TAMPA FIRE STATION IS COMING AND IT DIDN'T COME.
NO.
THE AGREEMENT WITH -- BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE ADMINISTRATION
WAS TO HAVE ANOTHER NORTH TAMPA STATION WHICH IS NOW AT
SULPHUR SPRINGS SPRINGS TO GIVE IMMEDIATE RELIEF TO STATION
13 WHICH WAS THE BUSIEST STATION.
ONE OF 23 STATIONS.
TAKING ONE OUT OF THE CALLS IN THE CITY.
AND THE PLAN WAS MADE TO ADDRESS THAT FIRST.
WHY THAT WAS STILL IN THE CIP?
A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE.
I DON'T KNOW.
AGAIN, I WANT TO BE CLEAR I NEVER THOUGHT SOMETHING WAS
COMING.
WHOA, WHAT IS IT.
DOESN'T HAPPEN.
I WANT TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT IN THAT REGARD.
THE SPIRIT BEHIND THIS I THINK IS GREAT.
BECAUSE IF THINGS ARE GOING FORWARD AND NOT -- NOT A --
GIVEN THE PROPER ON IT AND WE WANT -- IF THE TRAIN ALREADY
LEFT THE STATION, IT IS KIND OF DIFFICULT TO REJECT IT.
AGAIN, GOOD SPIRIT.
03:53:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND COUNCILMAN
CLENDENIN.
03:53:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
POINT OF REFERENCE OF THE COMMENT YOU MADE OF THE FIRE
STATION.
I THOUGHT THAT THE STUDY WE PAID FOR SAID THAT WE DIDN'T
NEED THE FIRE STATION.
NOT BARBARA TRIPP.
SHE REPORTED IT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS -- I THOUGHT IT WAS BASED ON THE STUDY.
ANYWAY.
WE CAN'T -- WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT OUTSIDE OF THESE
CHAMBERS.
I WAS JUST WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
THE COMMENT THAT I WANT TO MAKE IS REGARDING GETTING CITY
COUNCIL'S PERMISSION AT CONCEPT I THINK CAN BE A PROBLEM --
THAT'S FOR ME I CAN SEE BEING A POLITICAL PROCESS RIGHT
THERE BECAUSE A MATTER OF OPINION ON WHAT WE BUILD, WHERE WE
BUILD, HOW MUCH WE SPEND.
THE -- THE NATIONAL ARE GOING ON RIGHT -- THAT IS JUST
COMMENT AND A THOUGHT.
THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, HOW MANY PROJECTS DO WE HAVE
IN THE WORKS RIGHT NOW?
A LOT, RIGHT?
03:54:17PM >>JEAN DUNCAN:
A LOT.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER, I APOLOGIZE, BUT --
03:54:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
EVEN A MATTER OF EFFICIENCY, TIME AND
PROCESSING.
IF EVERYTHING OVER A FEW MILLION DOLLARS HAS TO COME TO OUR
DESK COULD ALSO BE A SITUATION WE ARE PUTTING OURSELVES IN
WHERE WE ARE SLOWING UP THINGS THAT WE HAVE AUTHORIZED OUR
CAPABLE STAFF OF DOING.
I JUST DON'T SEE THAT IS A VERY VALUABLE PROCESS STARTING
THAT CONCEPT OF GETTING OUR PERMISSION BASED ON A SMALL
DOLLAR VALUE.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT PUBLICLY.
I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT THE CIP PROCESS.
I AM LEARNING, STILL LEARNING, BUT I DO SEE THAT IS A
SITUATION OR I FEEL ALTHOUGH WE ARE LIMITING THE CREATIVITY.
WE ARE LIMITING THE DESIRES OF A MAYOR WHO MAY BE LISTENING
TO THE COMMUNITY AND STARTS OFF AS ONE PROJECT, AND, YOU
KNOW, IT BECOMES SOMETHING A LITTLE LARGER AND THE MAYOR IS
ENTITLED TO THAT DECISION SO I FEEL THAT WE ARE LIMITING THE
STAFF'S POSITION ON PROJECTS, AS WELL AS THE MAYORS THAT WE
START AT THE CONCESSION OF GETTING CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL.
THAT WILL BE POLITICAL.
03:55:41PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, BRAD
BAIRD, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE HAVE AN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION OF HOW MANY PROJECTS.
215 IN SOME FORM OF DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION OR CLOSEOUT.
150 OF THOSE UNDER CONSTRUCTION WORTH OVER $1 BILLION.
03:56:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
03:56:06PM >>BRAD BAIRD:
YOU ARE WELCOME.
03:56:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:56:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
COUPLE OF THINGS.
I WANT TO SET THE RECORD -- COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, WHILE I
DO AGREE THAT THE MAYOR ON THESE THINGS HAVE SOME LATITUDE,
THE CITY COUNCIL, WE PAY FOR EVERYTHING.
SO, YES, THERE IS CONCEPT AND ALL, BUT STILL UP TO THE
COUNCIL TO PAY FOR IT.
03:56:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
RIGHT, BUT --
03:56:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
GO AHEAD.
I DON'T MIND.
03:56:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NO, IT IS NOT -- IT IS NOT -- GO AHEAD.
03:56:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SO THERE SEEMS TO BE -- MISS DUNCAN YOU
HIT ON THIS.
SOME IS THE VERTICAL VERSUS THE OTHER STUFF.
THE HIGH-PROFILE BIG THINGS.
NOBODY CARES ABOUT HOW THE POOP IS CLEANED.
YOU KNOW -- WELL, MAYBE.
OR SOME OF THE LESS GLAMOROUS THINGS.
AND SOME OF THE BIGGER PROJECTS SEEMS TO THAT BE
BASIC ESPIRIT DE CORPS.
HOW DID WE GET HERE.
HOW DID WE GET HERE WHERE I AM SURPRISED OF THE SCOPE AND
SCALE OF THE PROJECT FROM WHAT IT WAS PRESENTED.
X AMOUNT OF MONTHS, YEARS AGO FROM WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND I
THINK THAT IS KIND OF WHERE I THINK WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT
THAT PROCESS OF HOW WE AVOID THOSE SURPRISES.
AND I THINK THAT IS THE ISSUE THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAS
HIGHLIGHTED AND BROUGHT UP TODAY.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- I AM NEVER THE GUY THAT WANTS TO TIE
PEOPLE'S HANDS UNNECESSARILY THROUGH BUREAUCRACY AND SLOW
THE PROCESS DOWN.
I ALSO -- I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE IS AN ISSUE.
I DON'T RECOGNIZE WHAT THE SOLUTION OF THAT ISSUE IS.
03:58:03PM >> COUNCILMAN RICHARD MUDDERBACK, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
TO AVOID THESE SURPRISES.
MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE PACKAGE SIGNED NOVEMBER OF THIS YEAR IS
WHAT IT IS THERE FOR IT WAS SIGNED IN NOVEMBER AND
SPECIFICALLY TO ALERT EVERYBODY.
STOP THE PROJECT WHEN IT MORE THAN DOUBLES IN PRICE DOUBLES
IN TIME, QUOTE, LAND USE CHANGE, PROPERTY ACQUISITIONS AND
ALL TRIGGER THAT.
ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS HIGHLY AWARE OF THAT NOW AND WE HAVEN'T
HAD TIME FOR THOSE PROJECTS TO TRICKLE THROUGH.
03:58:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
BRILLIANT.
03:58:47PM >> IF I CAN ADD, MR. CHAIR.
WHAT STARTED THIS DISCUSSION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S
PERSPECTIVE, AT LEAST YESTERDAY, WAS THAT, FOR LACK OF A
BETTER WORD, THAT "EXCEPTION REPORT" WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.
NOT OUR INTENT TO SURPRISE, TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S POINT.
IT IS A BIG PROJECT -- YOU HEARD THE NUMBER.
CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION PROJECTS.
NOT OTHER PARTS OF THE PROJECTS THAT THE CONTRACT
ADMINISTRATION IS NOT INVOLVED WITH.
I GET IT.
GRAND A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PERSPECTIVE AND A FINANCING
PERSPECTIVE, WE, TOO, THAT I IS A PLENTY VALUABLE REPORT TO
SEE WHAT IS COME OFF AND THIS EXCEPTION REPORT, IF YOU WILL,
BECAUSE PRESUMABLY MOST OF WHAT COUNCIL APPROVED IN THE
PREVIOUS YEAR THEY STILL WANT TO DO, BUT PRIORITIES CHANGE
AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT REPORT OFFERING A SIDE BY SIDE COMPARISON WILL GO A
LONG WAY TO MITIGATING ANY KIND OF SURPRISE.
THANK YOU.
03:59:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:59:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST -- NO, MR. MUDDERBACK.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET UP.
I WOULD LOVE A COPY OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDER.
IF -- IF YOU GOT IT.
FEEL FREE TO E-MAIL IT SO I CAN REFRESH MY MEMORY.
E-MAIL TO ALL OF US WOULD BE A NICE REFRESHER.
ALSO MR. ROGERO, YOU'RE HERE AND TALKING OF THE BUDGET AND
THINGS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY DATES FOR THE BUDGET PRESENTATION?
THE WORKSHOPS, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS?
04:00:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THANK YOU.
DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
THIS IS A SEGUE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER, A BUDGET
WORKSHOP.
THE BUDGET WORKSHOP FOR CITY COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY FOR THE
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
04:00:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I LOVE THAT IDEA.
04:00:41PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
PROBABLY THE TIME HAS PASSED.
A GREAT DEAL OF INFORMATION.
WE HAVE TRIED TO BE PRETTY FLEXIBLE IN WHAT COUNCIL
DISCUSSES AT THESE WORKSHOPS.
BE IT THE COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO DO -- PROBABLY PAST THE TIME
FOR A SOLE WORKSHOP.
BUT THAT WILL BE OUR RECOMMENDATION ALONG WITH OTHER
WORKSHOP DATES.
04:01:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WONDERFUL, THANK YOU.
04:01:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:01:09PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IS NOT HERE, BUT I
WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR.
SHE SAID SOMETHING OF A STUDY.
I WAS UNAWARE OF A STUDY WITH K-BAR RANCH.
IF THAT IS THERE, THAT IS FINE.
THE AGREEMENT WAS TO LOOK AT OTHER ALTERNATIVES BECAUSE
WITHIN THAT AREA 100 TO 150 CALLS.
LOOK AT MORE COST EFFECTIVE MEASURES HAVING ANOTHER VEHICLE
TO CUT THROUGH MORRIS BRIDGE ROAD AND WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT
RIGHT NOW.
JUST TO MAKE THE RECORD CLEAR AND, AGAIN, THAT WAS IN
AGREEMENT.
BUT NOT HERE OR WHATEVER.
04:01:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:01:47PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MR. MUDDERBACK.
FIRST I WANT TO SAY THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER HE WAS TALKING
ABOUT, AN EXECUTIVE ORDER BY THE MAYOR, BASED ON MONTHS OF
FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC.
I THINK THAT WAS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS WHERE THE PUBLIC
GAVE A LOT OF INPUT AND YOU PUT YOUR EXPERTISE WITH BRAD AND
OTHERS.
BROUGHT A FRESH PERSPECTIVE WHICH I APPRECIATE.
THAT WAS BASED ON A LOT OF INPUT.
SECOND, THIS IDEA THAT I CALL A CONCEPT APPROVAL AND A
CONCEPT PRESENTATION.
IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN OTHER
CITIES THAT YOU MIGHT ADD TO THIS FRAMEWORK THAT MISS DUNCAN
PRESENTED?
04:02:31PM >> ACTUALLY IN MY MIND, AROUND THE CIP WORKSHOP WILL BE THE
BEST TIME TO HOLD THAT.
PRIOR TO THAT -- BEFORE A PROJECT BECOMES A PROJECT, IT IS A
THOUGHT.
IT IS A CONCEPT.
BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE SOUND NUMBERS, SCOPE, DETAILS UNTIL
WE GO THROUGH -- LIKE, THE PREPARATION OF HE DID SIGN
CRITERIA PRACTICE GETTING READY TO ADVERTISE THAT PROJECT.
WHERE THE PROFESSIONALS ARE DOING THEIR HOMEWORK, DUE
DILIGENCE AND HOPE WORK.
THAT IS DONE PRIOR TO ADVERTISING AND WE CAN'T ADVERTISE
UNTIL WE HAVE THE FUNDING IN PLACE WHICH COMES FROM THE CIP
BUDGET.
REALLY AN IDEAL TIME TO HAVE THAT.
AND TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN HAVE REASONABLE, VALID
INFORMATION TO SHARE.
THE DEPARTMENTS WOULD.
AND TO GIVE YOU THE MOST INFORMATION AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TO
ASK QUESTIONS AND THAT WILL BE THE BEST TIME TO MAKE AWARE.
I THINK THE TERM I USED ALL WEEK WITH EVERYONE IS HIGHLIGHT.
THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO HIGHLIGHT THE HIGHER DOLLAR PROJECTS
AND TALKING THROUGH AT THAT STAGE.
04:03:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IF I MAY, JUST BASED ON THIS CONVERSATION, I
WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ASK CITY STAFF TO REPORT TO
COUNCIL AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR TO HOLD WITH COUNCIL ONCE A
YEAR WITH CIP WORKSHOP TO ASK STAFF WHEN REPORTING THE CIP
UPDATES TO INCLUDE AN EXCEPTION SUMMARY AT THE BEGINNING SO
THAT WE IN THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCES ARE.
04:04:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WILL SECOND.
04:04:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
JUST FOR DISCUSSION.
THAT IS BASICALLY SAYING WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO.
04:04:11PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT IT --
04:04:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU WANT IT TO BE CODIFIED.
04:04:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT HAPPENS -- WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE LEAVE.
IF THEY HAPPEN TO LEAVE, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS CODIFIED
SOMEWHERE.
04:04:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MY AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO BE HELD AFTER THE
MAYOR PRESENTS THE BUDGET, BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN WE WOULD
WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
04:04:34PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YOU ARE TALKING -- IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU MEANT
BEFORE THE MAYOR PRESENTS.
04:04:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT IS WHAT I WAS THINKING.
04:04:41PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
RIGHT NOW WE THEORIZED -- FROM A
PHILOSOPHICAL PERSPECTIVE, WE THINK IT IS VALUABLE.
TOP OF MY HEAD, I WOULD THINK POST THE MAYOR'S PRESENTATION
BECAUSE YOU GOT -- I WOULD THINK A LOT OF THE DETAILED
INFORMATION THAT MR. MUDDERBACK WAS TALKING ABOUT, OPPOSED
TO MAYBE SOME NEBULOUS IDEAS AND COMPS.
COUNCIL'S PLEASURE, BUT YOU WILL HAVE DETAILED INFORMATION
AFTER THE BUDGET PRESENTATION.
04:05:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE IT TOGETHER.
I KNOW WE GET THE BUDGET HOT OFF THE PRESS.
YOU ARE WORK AGO CONTINUE UNTIL THE NIGHT BEFORE, BUT I
BELIEVE YOU HAVE GIVEN IT TO US WITH 24-HOUR ADVANCE AND WE
APPRECIATE THAT.
THAT IS VERY HELPFUL LAST YEAR AND I WILL ASK FOR THAT AGAIN
GIVING US A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
SO WE HAVE A CHANCE AND SUGGEST IT BEFORE WE SEE IT AND TALK
ABOUT IT TOGETHER.
AND I ACTUALLY THINK THAT PERSONALLY HAVING DONE ALL THIS
WORK AROUND THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, I FEEL LIKE THAT IS A GOOD
TIME.
MAYBE THE FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP.
MAYBE BEFORE YOU PRESENT IT TO COUNCIL, BEFORE THE ACTUAL
BUDGET WORKSHOP TO HOLD THE CIP WHEN THE NORMAL BUDGET
WORKSHOP WILL BE AND HOLD THE BUDGET WORKSHOP LATER.
CIP IS THE LATEST TO GET THEIR ARMS AROUND BECAUSE A LOT OF
STATIC.
04:06:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ALL FUN AND GAMES UNTIL WHEN THE TIMES --
IF THE CLOCK STARTS TICKING.
04:06:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
THE CLOCK STARTS TICKING.
04:06:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU THROW DOWN THAT HAMMER.
DATE IS EARLIER ENOUGH TO GET ALL OF THIS IN OTHERWISE WE
WILL BE RUNNING AROUND LIKE A CHICKEN WITH OUR HEAD CUT OFF.
04:06:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU.
IF I MAY, IN OUR DISCUSSIONS LAST YEAR OF BUDGET, YOU
REQUESTED TO GET THE BUDGET EARLIER AND RESTRICTED BY THE
PROPERTY VALUES AND REVENUE ASSOCIATED -- OR THE AD VALOREM
REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE BUT WE ANTICIPATE THE MAYOR
PRESENTING THE BUDGET IN LATE JULY, A COUPLE OF WEEKS
EARLIER THIS YEAR.
AND, AGAIN --
04:06:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT GIVES US MORE LATITUDE.
I KEPT HAVING NIGHTMARE THINKING OF LAST YEAR AND.
IT GIVES A LITTLE MORE LATITUDE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
04:07:14PM >> I LOVE THAT, THANK YOU.
04:07:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
04:07:22PM >> THANK YOU.
04:07:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A FEW MORE ITEMS.
DO YOU THINK WE CAN BE DONE BY 5:00 TODAY?
04:07:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T LOOK AT THE CLOCK ANYMORE.
CLENDENIN 5:00 SOMEWHERE.
04:07:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MEETINGS WILL NOT BE THAT PAD IF WE HAD A
MARTINI BAR SET UP OUT THERE.
JUST SAYING.
04:07:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE CAN'T.
CFO.
04:07:48PM >> I WILL BE JOINING HIM.
04:07:53PM >> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO CALL UP MY --
04:08:07PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT.
04:08:09PM >>CRYSTAL CLARK:
I AM CRYSTAL CLARK, THE COMMUNICATION
MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA, ASSISTING ROGER TOO STANDING
IN FOR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT AND THE BUDGET
RELATED TO THE DEPARTMENT.
GIVING YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE ROLE THAT THIS DEPARTMENT
PLAYS WITHIN THE CITY.
I WILL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
04:08:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
TIME SORRY --
04:08:38PM >> HERE WE GO.
THANK YOU.
BRIEF OVERVIEW ONCE AGAIN.
THE NEED FOR A GROWING OR ROBUST COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT IN
THE CITY HAS A LOT TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THERE IS GROWTH
IN THE DIGITAL AND SOCIAL MEDIA REALM NATURALLY.
EVERYONE EXPECTS TO SEE EVERYTHING 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAY
AS WEEK DIGITALLY FIRST RIGHT AT THE PALM OF THEIR HAND.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, DECLINE IN THE LOCAL MEDIA, LESS STAFF
IN NEWS ROOMS MEANS DECREASED RESOURCE FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT
REPORTING.
THERE IS A GROWING PUBLIC EXPECTATION AS ALL YOU HAVE YOU
HAVE SEEN PERSONALLY FOR TRANSPARENCY AND ANTICIPATION OF
LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
IN THE EVENT OF A CRISIS, YOU NATURALLY WANT TO HAVE A
COMMUNICATIONS TEAM THAT IS ABLE TO PROVIDE IMMEDIATE AND
EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATIONS TO THE PUBLIC.
THAT IS THE ROLE THAT THE COMMUNICATION PROFESSIONALS IN OUR
CITY WILL PLAY AND DO PLAY WHEN THESE EVENTS OCCUR.
CONTENT AND ACCESSIBILITY, CREATING, ENGAGING ACCESSIBLE
CONTENT HELPS DIVERSE COMMUNITIES WITHIN OUR CITY FEEL
INCLUDED IN WHAT WE ARE DOING AND FEEL A PART OF THE CITY
AND, AGAIN, THE TAKEAWAY IS ROBUST COMMUNICATION IS
ESSENTIAL FOR LOCAL GOVERNMENT IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE HERE, THE HISTORY OF OUR CITY OF
TAMPA COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT.
AFTER THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC, WE SAW SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN
OUR POPULATION AND LED TO A CALL FOR MORE COMMUNICATION THAN
AND MORE ROBUST COMMUNICATION PLAN CITYWIDE.
PRIOR TO 2021, DIRECTOR OF COMs THAT WORE A LOT OF HATS.
THE PUBLIC MEDIA WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT PUBLIC WIDE EXPECT
FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND PIOs OR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICERS
DEDICATED TO DEPARTMENT.
OTHERS DID NOT.
LESS STAFF, LIMITED PROACTIVE COMMUNICATION AND SLOW
RESPONSIVENESS TO MEDIA.
AS SOMEONE WHO IS ON THE RECEIVING END AS A LOCAL REPORTER,
I CAN TELL YOU IT IS VERY DIFFICULT WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO
TURN THE STORY THAT DAY AND YOU CAN'T GET A HOLD OF ANYONE
IN THE CITY WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNICATIONS.
THAT LED US FOR THE NEED OF PROFESSIONALIZING THE
COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT.
2021, NINE POSITIONS WERE ADDED TO THE COMMUNICATION
DEPARTMENT OR COMMUNICATIONS CITYWIDE, I SHOULD SAY.
MEDIA RELATIONS MANAGER AND FOUR P.I.O.s, WATER, SOLID
WASTE, DEO AND THE CONVENTION CENTER.
SINCE 2021, NO NEW POSITIONS HAVE BEEN CREATED FOR
COMMUNICATIONS.
AND THE ONLY TWO VACANCIES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE POSTED
ONLINE, ONE OF THEM FILLING A POSITION FOR SOMEONE WHO LEFT
FOR AN EXTERNAL OPPORTUNITY AND THE OTHER AN INTERNAL
PROMOTION TO CCTV.
EVERY NEW COM EMPLOYEE IN FISCAL '24 WAS LOWER THAN THEIR
SUPERVISOR.
AND FOR MOBILITY AND CEO, OVERTIME CEASED FOR COM STAFF
CITYWIDE AND ALL NEW COM STAFF IS EXPECTED AND REQUIRED TO
HAVE PROFESSIONAL DEGREES WITHIN THEIR FIELD AND COMING IN
WITH AT LEAST A DECADE OF EXPERIENCE FOR MANY OF THEM FAR
EXCEEDING THE MINIMUM HIRING REQUIREMENTS.
HERE IS OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART FOR THE COMMUNICATIONS
DEPARTMENT.
WE ARE A FAIRLY SMALL TEAM.
THERE ARE TEN OF US THAT ARE ACTUALLY WITHIN THE
COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE.
THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATION WHO HAS AN EXECUTIVE AIDE.
SHE SERVES AS THE AIDE FOR THREE OFFICES THROUGHOUT THE
CITY.
SO SHE -- SHE SERVES PART-TIME IN OUR OFFICE ESSENTIALLY.
WE ARE BROKEN DOWN IN TWO CATEGORIES, COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER
OVERSEES THE CREATIVE SUITES.
ALL OF THE PEOPLE CREATING THE SOCIAL MEDIA CONTENT THAT YOU
SEE.
PEOPLE THAT ARE CREATING -- GRAPHIC DESIGNER, FOR EXAMPLE,
FLYERS, PARTICIPATE LETS, ROADWAY SIGNS.
ANYTHING WITH THE CITY BRAND ON IT.
TWO PEOPLE I MENTION READY SERVING IN THE SOCIAL MEDIA ROLE.
ONE OF THE POSITIONS CURRENTLY.
ONE VIDEOGRAPHER CITYWIDE.
THE PERSON PRODUCING ALL VIDEOS FOR EVERY DEPARTMENT
INCLUDING TRAINING VIDEO FOR DEPARTMENTS.
AND THE MEDIA MANAGER THAT OVERSEES THE PRESS SUITE.
PERSON REPORTING TO HER THE COMMUNICATION STRATEGIST THAT
DOUBLES AS A VIDEOGRAPHER BUT PLANS PRESS CONFERENCES FOR
THE CITY AND ALL THE LOGISTICS THAT COME WITH THAT.
A DOTTED LINE YOU WILL SEE FOR DEPARTMENTAL COMMUNICATION
COORDINATORS OUR P.I.O.s.
EACH ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS CITYWIDE HAVE ONE COMMUNICATIONS
COORDINATOR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF POLICE AND THREE WITH THE
VOLUME OF MEDIA INQUIRIES AND PUBLIC INQUIRIES THAT THEY
RECEIVE.
COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT ACCOLADES.
THE STAFFING CHANGES THAT WE INITIATED IN 2021 HAS
SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED PRODUCTIVITY FOR THIS DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVE AN E-MAIL MARKETING PLATFORM WHERE JUST TRACKING IT
MYSELF IN THE LAST YEAR, 300 PLUS PRESS RELEASES SENT
THROUGH THIS DEPARTMENT.
AS COMPARISON IF YOU GO ON TAMPA.GOV/NEWS.
2018, 29 PRESS RELIANCES.
2019, TEN PRESS RELEASES.
FOR CLARITY, NOT SAYING THAT THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT
ONLY SENT TEN PRESS RELEASES AT THE TIME.
ONLY THEY ARE NOT TRACKABLE.
THE STANDARD WAS SENDING PRESS RELEASES BY E-MAIL TO THE TOP
FIVE LOCAL TV STATIONS.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT SMALLER NEWS OUTLETS, NEWS OUTLETS THAT
ARE NOT ENGLISH-SPEAKING WERE THE KIND OF GETTING LEFT OFF
THAT LIST AND INFORMATION WASN'T GETTING DISPERSED AS WELL.
YOU SEE A FEW REWARDS THAT THE DEPTH HAS WON IN RECENT YEARS
AS WELL FOR 2024.
WE FOUND OUT LAST NIGHT WE WERE THE WINNERS OF THE GOLD POST
AWARD FOR THE BEST USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA IN AN EMERGENCY FOR
THE LAST HURRICANE SEASON.
TO WRAP IT UP, OUR COMMUNICATION STAFF IN TERMS OF SIZE
REMAINS PRETTY WELL BELOW COMPARATIVE CITIES.
WE DID SOME PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST JUST TO PROVIDE THAT
INFORMATION FOR YOU.
A BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT I TRY TO SUMMARIZE AT THE TOP.
THE CITY OF ATLANTA, THEIR COMMUNICATION STAFF CONSISTS OF
64 PEOPLE COMPARED TO TAMPA'S 21.
POPULATION 498 COMPARED TO 408 AND SALARIES FOR INDIVIDUALS
WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENT ARE LISTED THERE AS WELL.
I HAVE RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA LISTED HERE.
COMMUNICATION STAFF OF 45 PEOPLE.
COMPARED TO TAMPA'S 21.
AND I SHOULD ALSO CLARIFY THAT 21 PEOPLE INCLUDES THE 10
PEOPLE WITHIN THE ACTUAL COM'S OFFICE AND THE P.I.O.s THAT
ARE DEPARTMENT-WIDE.
IN TOTAL EVERY PERSON WITH A COMMUNICATION RELATED ROLE FOR
THE CITY IS 21 PEOPLE.
RALEIGH WITH THEIR SALARIES AND INDIVIDUALS AND TITLES
LISTED THERE.
NEXT, WE MOVE ON TO ORLANDO.
ORLANDO'S POPULATION SIZE IS SMALLER THAN OURS.
324,000 PEOPLE COMPARED TO TAMPA'S 408,000; HOWEVER,
THEIR COM STAFF, 42 PEOPLE COMPARED TO OUR 21.
AND SALARIES LISTED AS WELL.
CITY OF ST. PETERSBURG, AGAIN, SIGNIFICANTLY SMALLER
POPULATION, 263,000 RESIDENTS.
A STAFF OF 42 FOR COMMUNICATIONS AND POSITIONS LISTED BELOW.
LET ME KNOW IF I AM CLICK TOO FAST ON THESE, BY THE WAY.
WE MOVE ON TO HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
POPULATION SIZE OF 1.5 MILLION, BUT THAT INCLUDES TAMPA'S
$408,000.
COMMUNICATION STAFF OF 52 PEOPLE COMPARED TO TAMPA'S 21 AND
SALARIES LISTED FOR EACH OF THE INDIVIDUALS STRUCTURED
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT OUR OFFICE.
THEY DON'T HAVE AN ADMINISTRATOR BUT REPORT DIRECTLY TO THE
MAYOR.
AND THE TITLES ARE DIFFERENT BUT THE ROLES ARE VERY SIMILAR.
LASTLY, THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE NOT
INCLUDED IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS A WHOLE FOR
COMMUNICATION.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ALONE, YOU WILL SEE 15 COMMUNICATION
EMPLOYEES AND THEIR SALARIES LISTED HERE.
SORRY, 14 RATHER COMPARED TO TPD WITH THE THREE P.I.O.s I
MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.
THIS IS PURELY TO SAY THAT WE ARE A SMALL AND MIGHTY TEAM
HANDLING COMMUNICATIONS FOR A PRETTY LARGE CITY AND
EVER-GROWING CITY.
THESE ARE JUST SOME CHARTS TO REITERATE WHAT WE HAVE.
MARKETING AND COMMUNICATION STAFFING COMPARED TO THE CITIES
I JUST MENTIONED.
TAMPA BEING THE SMALLEST OF THEM.
MARKETING AND COMMUNICATION STAFFING WHEN IT COMES TO
RESIDENT SIZE, WE ARE WITH ONE PERSON PER 10,000 RESIDENT.
OUR GOAL EVEN WITH MINIMUM STAFF, WE ARE KEEPING THE PUBLIC
AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
PUTTING OUT MESSAGES WHETHER WITHIN A CRISIS OR NOT.
WE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE
BUDGET AND WHATEVER THE COMMUNICATION OFFICE DOES.
04:17:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
I WILL GO TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
AFTER THESE COMMENTS.
WHAT I SAW ON THE ORIGINAL CHART, THE TOP FOUR, THE BOSS,
THE EXECUTIVE AIDE, THAT OVER $552,000 FOR FOUR SALARIES.
I SAW COMPARISONS TO OTHER CITIES.
I THINK ATLANTA HAD A CITY COUNCIL COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR
THERE.
I THINK IT WAS ATLANTA.
I MEAN, THIS -- THIS IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY JUST TO GET
INFORMATION THROUGH, AND THIS IS NOT EVEN -- THOSE TOP
SALARIES ON THE FIRST CHART THAT YOU SHOWED, IT WASN'T EVEN
INCLUDING THE SALARIES FOR THE P.I.O.s FOR POLICE, FIRE AND
EVERYTHING ELSE.
DO WE REALLY NEED TO BE SPENDING THIS MUCH MONEY WHEN WE
HAVE WITH TECHNOLOGY ACCESS TO GETTING MESSAGES OUT.
LIKE WHAT SOCIAL MEDIA MESSAGES -- LIKE WHEN SOMETHING GOING
VIRAL.
IT GOES VERY QUICKLY.
I WILL BRING UP COUNCILMAN VIERA, BECAUSE I THINK HE DOES
ONE OF THE BEST JOBS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
HE POSTS ONLINE ON TWITTER, SOCIAL MEDIA.
IT IS CONSTANT.
HE IS HIS OWN COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT AND HE DOES I THINK
THE BEST JOB.
HE GETS HIS MESSAGE OUT THERE.
PEOPLE SEE WHAT HE IS DOING.
IT IS JUST -- IT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
I KNOW THAT IN THE GRECO ADMINISTRATION, IT WAS A MUCH
SMALLER STAFF BEFORE SOCIAL MEDIA.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT HE HAD -- I KNOW OF ONE PERSON.
WITH BUCKHORN'S ASSOCIATION, ASHLEY AND OTHER PEOPLE --
ASHLEY DID A PHENOMENAL JOB.
I WAS HERE THE FIRST FOUR YEARS.
I WAS THINKING -- IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST, THE CITY
COUNCIL DIDN'T HAVE THEIR OWN COMMUNICATION PERSON.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, DO WE NEED TO HIRE A COMMUNICATION
PERSON IF WE ARE GOING THAT ROUTE.
I WAS THINKING THE OFFICE OF THE CHAIRPERSON, WHOEVER THAT
IS, SHOULD BE HANDLING A CITY COUNCIL TWITTER ACCOUNT.
CITY COUNCIL DID THIS TODAY.
NOT RESPOND TO MESSAGES, BUT TO PUT -- WITHOUT HAVING TO
SPEND THAT EXTRA MONEY.
I LIKE TO WORK ON -- NOT A BARE-BONES BUDGET, BUT GET -- YOU
KNOW, SQUEEZE THE MOST THAT YOU CAN OUT OF A DOLLAR.
I JUST SAW A LOT OF POSITIONS WITH A LOT OF WHAT I CONSIDER
BIG SALARIES.
WE ARE IN THE MID-50s HERE IN OUR SALARIES.
ALL THE SALARIES IN THE MOST PART ARE IN THE SIX FIGURES.
DO WE NEED TO BE SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY TO GET THE MESSAGE
OUT THERE?
I GET IT.
ATLANTA IS BIGGER BY POPULATION THAN TAMPA.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TREMENDOUS NEEDS, WHATEVER.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHY DO WE NEED TO BE KEEPING UP WITH
THE JONESES.
I THINK WE CAN DO JUST AS GOOD WITH A SMALLER BUDGET.
WE WENT THROUGH THIS BUDGET LAST YEAR REGARDING RAISING THE
MILLAGE, PROPOSING TO RAISE THE MILLAGE AND HOW THE BUDGET
HAS GROWN.
I MEAN, IT IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR -- NO OFFENSE TO ANYBODY.
PAUSE EVERYBODY DOES A GREAT JOB, BUT IT IS LIKE, YOU KNOW,
MY DAD HAD A SAYING YEARS AGO.
THERE IS TOO MANY PEOPLE EATING FROM HERE.
AND HE TOLD THIS TO A BUSINESS OWNER.
YOU HAVE TOO MANY EMPLOYEES.
THAT BUSINESS WENT UNDER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT PERSON BECAUSE
EVERYBODY WAS JUST HIRED.
HIRED SOMEBODY TO DO IT AND THAT PLACE WENT BANKRUPT I DON'T
KNOW.
I AM RAMBLING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, A LOT OF MONEY.
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:21:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
YEAH, THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS.
AND THANK YOU TO ADAM WHEREVER HE IS.
I SPOKE TO HIM A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO ABOUT IT.
I MADE THIS MOTION BECAUSE THE PERCEPTION OF THE COMMUNITY
WITH THE NEW PEOPLE HIRED AND THE SALARIES, THE PERCEPTION
IS.
AND I WANTED THE INFORMATION TO BE SENT.
AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS IF YOU GO BACK SEVERAL YEARS AGO TO
MENTION A NAME, ASHLEY BOWMAN.
I THOUGHT SHE DID A FANTASTIC JOB FOR ONE PERSON, THE THINGS
SHE DID -- SHE DID THE JOB OF, LIKE, FIVE PEOPLE.
AND, AS AN ACTIVIST, I WAS OPPOSITE HER ON A BUNCH OF
ISSUES, AND SHE REALLY DID WELL AT ADVOCATING.
THE CRITICISM OF THAT ADMINISTRATION AND THIS ADMINISTRATION
AT THE BEGINNING THAT A LOT OF IT WAS CENTERED AROUND THE
MAYOR AND SHE DID A LOT MORE BESIDE DOING WITH THE MAY I
DON'T REMEMBER AND HAD IN THE BUDGET AND ASK.
AND THE DIFFERENT ENTERPRISE AND IN PARTICULAR.
AND MY RECOMMENDATION SEVERAL YEARS AGO IS WE GET MORE PIOs
IN THIS AREA IF WATER, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH PIPES AND
STORMWATER, WE NEED TO MORE COMMUNICATION.
SOME OF IT IS OUTSOURCED BUT NEED TO DO MORE NOTIFICATION.
PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE BLINDSIDED.
THINGS OCCUR LIKE THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS ISSUE THAT
IS OUTSOURCED AS A SUB TO A CONTRACTOR AND THE COMMUNICATION
DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO STEP IN ON THOSE THINGS.
I WAS TALKING TO ADAM LAST WEEK OF THE ARMATURE WORKS
ASSOCIATION AND PIOs AND -- AND TPD.
AND WE DO THE NOTIFICATION AND GET THE INFORMATION OUT.
THE RAIN CALLED HIM AND TOLD THE MAYOR THAT I DID TALK TO
HIM.
I WAS GETTING A BUNCH OF CALLS AND PEOPLE WERE SCARED AND
WORRY AND I THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO GET COMMUNICATE OUT.
AND THEY ARE VERY RESPONSIVE.
OF THE DEPARTMENT.
AND INCLUDING CONSULTANT LIKE LAURA McELROY WAS INCLUDED FOR
THE LONG TIME.
I KNOW YOU HAVE SUBS UNDER ENGINEERING FIRMS AND OTHERS.
04:23:59PM >> THE MARKING COMMUNICATION BUDGET ACTUAL AMOUNT LISTED.
THE BUDGET WAS HIGHER IN 2020 COMPARED TO WHAT IT IS IN
2024.
THIS INCLUDES THE MONEY THAT WAS VOTED ON OVERALL.
SORRY, THIS IS PERSONNEL.
I APOLOGIZE.
04:24:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DENNIS, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE BUDGET IS
INVOLVING THE CONSULTANTS?
04:24:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO:
I DO NOT HAVE THAT.
04:24:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE NEXT QUESTION, DOES THAT INCLUDE THE
SUBS ON THE BIG PROJECT OR NOT?
UPSIDE DOWN?
04:24:37PM >> THIS IS OPERATIONAL AS WELL.
ANY FUNDING THAT GOES WITH OUTSOURCING SAY IF A -- IF A
PHOTOGRAPHY COMPANY NEEDED TO BE HIRED FOR A BIG EVENT.
IT WILL COME OUT OF THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ANY FUNDING FOR --
04:24:58PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK THE SUBS ON THE ENGINEER.
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO LOOK AT SOME POINT.
I AM AN ADVOCATE FOR MORE OF THAT BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY
SHOULD NOT WASTE MONEY, BUT WE NEED MORE COMMUNICATION.
PEOPLE SHOULD NOT ARRIVE AT THEIR HOME AND SEE THE STREET
DUG UP.
THEY SHOULD KNOW WAY IN ADVANCE.
I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS CHANGING BECAUSE OF THE SUBS.
THE LAST THING I WILL MENTION, AND I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH
THE MAYOR AND ADAM AND ANDREA ABOUT THIS.
THE ROLE OF THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT IS TO COMMUNICATE
ABOUT THE CITY.
AND THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT SHOULD JUST LIKE THE LEGAL
DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE TO BE OBJECTIVE AND YOU MIGHT HAVE THE
MAYOR AS A CLIENT AND TPD AS CLIENT, WATER AS CLIENT.
MAYBE CITY COUNCIL A CLIENT.
SO THEY -- THE OVERALL OBJECTIVE OF THE COMMUNICATION
DEPARTMENT IS TO PRESENT A POSITIVE OR ACCURATE, TRUTHFUL
MESSAGE ABOUT THE CITY.
AND THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT SHOULD NEVER GET INVOLVED
IN POLITICS.
AND DEFINITELY NEVER GETTING INVOLVED IN ONE IN DISPUTES
BETWEEN DIFFERENT CLIENTS.
SO I THINK THAT THAT HAS MOSTLY BEEN CLEANED UP AND UP HOPE
THAT CONTINUES TO GO FORWARD BECAUSE THE COMMUNICATION
DEPARTMENT I THINK IS DOING GOOD JOB -- ACTUALLY DOING A
GREAT JOB.
DIFFERENT BECAUSE WE ARE COMMUNICATING IN THE FIELD ON THE
ENTERPRISE PROJECTS AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS EVOLVE,
THANKS.
04:26:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:26:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES, ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK THE PRODUCT THAT WE ARE SEEING OUT OF OUR
COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN STELLAR.
I THINK THE QUALITY OF THE PROJECT.
GUESS WHAT, FOR A BIG CITY.
AND WE ARE A HIGH PROFILE CITY, PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE
COUNTRY AND ALL OVER THE WORLD ARE LOOKING AT TAMPA.
AND THE IMAGE THAT WE PROJECT SHOULD BE REFLECTED OF THAT
BIG CITY ATTITUDE, BRAVADO.
WE SHOULDN'T BE PUTTING A HIGH SCHOOL QUALITY PRODUCT.
WE SHOULD BE PUT OUT MADISON AVENUE TYPE OF PRODUCT.
I THINK WITH A RELATIVELY MODEST BUDGET.
WITH FOLKS THAT ARE IN-HOUSE.
I THINK THEY ARE.
I HAVE SEEN REALLY NICE THINGS PUT OUT.
I AM VERY IMPRESSED BY IT.
I THINK WE NEED TO DOUBLE DOWN.
WE HAVE BIG CITY SPORTS.
BIG CITY ARTS.
AND THIRD-WORLD TRANSPORTATION AND ROADS.
WE ARE WORKING ON THAT.
AND -- BUT, WE WILL GET TO THAT.
BUT -- MR. CARLSON JUST SAID THAT.
IT IS COMMUNICATION THAT IS GOING TO TELL FOLKS WHERE WE ARE
PAVING THOSE ROADS.
AND TO BE ABLE TO SING OUR SUCCESS AS YOU HEARD VIK BHIDE
TALK ABOUT IN HOUSING, PAVING, AND HOW MUCH WE ARE ABLE TO
SAVE TAXPAYERS MONEY AND HOW MUCH MORE PAVING WE ARE ABLE TO
ACCOMPLISH.
HOPEFULLY THROUGH TIMES SET NEXT YEAR AND THE COMMUNICATION
PEOPLE.
BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU COULD HAVE -- COULD YOU BE THE MOST
SUCCESSFUL CITY IN THE WORLD AND NOBODY KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY
ARE GOING TO BE DISSATISFIED.
YOU NEED TO TALK ABOUT -- OR TELL PEOPLE.
RUNNING UP THE FLAGPOLE.
TELL PEOPLE WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT
THAT COMMUNICATION STAFF IS DOING THAT.
ALREADY SPOKE WITH THE DIRECTOR THIS WEEK OF MY CONCERNS
ABOUT COMMUNICATION AND KIND OF -- IT IS A LITTLE BIT WHAT
BILL CARLSON JUST HARKENED TOO.
THE CITY OF TAMPA COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT.
NOT JUST ONCE PIECE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
IT IS ALL OF OUR COMMUNICATION.
IT IS CITY COUNCIL.
IT IS THE DEPARTMENTS.
IT IS THE SUCCESSES OF EVERY ELEMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF
THE CITY THAT YOU ALL SHOULD BE CHAMPIONING.
AND NOT JUST ONE PIECE OF IT.
NOT A ONE PERSON COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT, IT IS THE CITY OF
TAMPA COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT IN THE NEXT YEAR.
REALLY CHAMPION ALL OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT THIS CITY
COUNCIL IS DOING, THAT OUR POLICE ARE DOING, THAT OUR
MOBILITY IS DOING, THAT PARKS AND RECREATION ARE DOING.
LET'S GET -- LET'S GET THE MESSAGE OUT THAT THE CITY OF
TAMPA IS BEING DONE WELL.
WE HAVE GOT GREAT EMPLOYEES HERE AND -- AND THE TAXPAYERS
AND PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE ARE GETTING THEIR MONIES WORTH.
SELL THE MESSAGE.
04:29:12PM >> IF I MAY JUST INTERJECT TO THE CHAIRMAN'S COMMENTS PRIOR.
THE MISCONCEPTION I THINK WITH COMMUNICATION IS IT IS ONE OF
THOSE INDUSTRIES THAT EVERYBODY BELIEVES THEY KNOW HOW TO DO
IT.
PEOPLE SEE TWEETS.
THEY SEE POSTS, BUT THEY DON'T REALIZE THE WORK THAT GOES
INTO IT.
THE PEOPLE WE HAVE -- THEIR STAFF IS LITERALLY TRACKING TO
SEE WHAT IS TRENDING.
HOW DO WE GET MORE IONS OUR PRODUCT.
THE THING THAT IS ALSO INTERESTING FOR GOVERNMENT
COMMUNICATIONS IS, WE ARE NOT SELLING A PRODUCT.
IT IS NOT A TYPICAL MARKETING FIRM, BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING IS
WORKING TO ENTERTAIN AND EDUCATE AND IN ORDER TO GET
PEOPLE'S EYES ON THE ACCOUNT, TO BUILD A FOLLOWING WHEN THE
BIG EMERGENCY HAPPENS, HURRICANE OR CRY, PEOPLE ARE ALREADY
FOLLOWING US AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WHEN YOU HAVE INTERNS
SENDING OUT TWEETS RATHER THAN PROFESSIONAL PEOPLE WITH A
BACKGROUND IN MARKETING AND BACKGROUND IN PR AND KNOW WHAT
WE ARE DOING.
WE WORK TO BE AN EXTREMELY RESPONSIVE AREA.
TWO PEOPLE SERVING IN OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
THEY WORK 24 HOURS DAY.
THEY ARE NOT GETTING PAID FOR IT.
EVERYBODY IS IN BOXING AN EMERGENCY OR A SALE OUTSIDE OF TPD
AND LEFT THEIR CAR KEYS.
THEY CAN MESSAGE OUR ACCOUNT AND WILL GET SOME SORT OF
ASSISTANCE DAY AND NIGHT.
IT COMES IN HANDY HAVING A STAFF OUR SIZE AS YOU SAW IN THE
COMPARISONS WHICH IS NOT TOO LARGE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES.
LIKE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN SAID, WE HAVE TO START THINKING
LIKE A BIGGER CITY.
WE ARE UP TO OVER 400,000 PEOPLE AND 500,000 BY 2030, 2045,
SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
WE ARE GROWING SO FAST THAT IF WE ARE NOT KEEPING TRACK WHEN
IT COMES TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS, NO ONE KNOW WHAT IS WE ARE
DOING.
04:30:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:31:01PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I GUESS I AM DIFFERENT.
NOT THAT I WANT TO BE.
I DON'T TWITTER.
I DON'T CHECK E-MAIL.
I DON'T CHECK NONE OF THAT STUFF.
I DO WHAT I THINK IS BEST AND KEEP MARCHING.
EVIDENTLY I FAILED, BECAUSE I SHOULDN'T BE HERE.
I HAVEN'T KEPT UP WITH SOCIETY.
SOCIETY HAVEN'T KEPT UP WITH ME.
I LIVE MY OWN LITTLE LIFE AND I REALLY ENJOY IT.
DON'T HAVE TO WORRY WHO TO ANSWER TO.
I DON'T WORRY WHAT THE PUBLIC IS THINKING OF ME.
I LOST ALL MY HAIR.
THAT WAS NATURAL.
JUST LIKE YUL BRENNER, NOBODY REMEMBERS WHO HE WAS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A NICE LIFE.
WHATEVER YOU REPORT DOESN'T BOTHER ME, GOOD, BAD.
MY GRANDKIDS SAID YOU GOT TO DO THAT IN THE CAMPAIGN.
YOU DO IT.
THREE WEEKS LATER SHE SAID I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE DONE
BUT WE HAVE 3,000 OR SO PEOPLE THAT KNOW WHAT YOU DID AND I
JUST PUT IT ON THE THING.
AND I SAID GOD BLESS THEM ALL.
SAY THANK YOU.
THAT WAS THE END OF MY CONVERSATION.
AND HER SIDE, SHE DID WHATEVER SHE WANTED TO DO.
THAT IS WHAT SHE STUDIED.
I LOOK AT LIFE THE BEGINNING AND THE END.
I DON'T WANT TO MESS AROUND WITH ANYTHING ELSE THAT
INTERFERES WITH MY LIFE THE WAY I LIVE IT.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND I DON'T FOLLOW
IT.
I GET THINGS FROM THE CITY SOMETIMES.
AND IT SAYS E-MAIL SO AND SO FOR 25, 30, OR EVEN HIGHER IN
THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN AND HISPANIC COMMUNITY DON'T HAVE
E-MAIL.
WHO ARE THEY GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH AND HOW ARE THEY
GOING TO DO IT?
THE THINGS THAT KIND OF BOTHER ME THAT THEY THINK EVERYBODY
IS ON THAT SYSTEM BUT THEY ARE NOT.
WHAT YOU DO AND WHAT YOU REPORT ON THAT MAKES YOU ACCEPTABLE
OR NOT ACCEPTABLE.
AND I CAN'T SAY IT FOR YOU OR AGAINST YOU.
THE OTHER CITIES.
YOU ARE LOWER THAN THAT.
LESS PEOPLE LIVING IN THOSE CITIES SO I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING
-- LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE DOING WHAT YOU CAN WITH MOST LIKELY
WITH LESS MONEY.
WHAT I HAVE SEEN -- I AM NOT QUESTIONING THE NATIONAL AND
FIGURES.
THEY ARE VERY, VERY COMPARABLE TO OTHER CITIES AND UNDER
MOST OF THEM.
04:33:23PM >> THANK YOU.
04:33:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:33:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT.
SO YOU MENTIONED OR SOMEONE MENTIONED THE PIOs THAT WORKED
ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
WHETHER IT BE THE SOUTHEAST SEMINOLE HEIGHTS OR STORMWATER
-- BIGGER PROJECTS.
WHAT IS YOUR INTERACTION WITH THOSE COMMUNICATION TEAMS?
04:33:50PM >> THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING TO EXPAND NOW.
SO CURRENTLY THROUGH CAD, THEY ARE HIRING THESE FIRMS THAT
ARE HANDLING MOST OF THE INTERACTION WITH THE PUBLIC AND
MAKING SURE THAT THE IS GETTING OUT THERE BUT A FIFTH OF AN
INTERCONNECT WE ARE WORKING ON FIXING.
AS THESE FIRMS ARE HIRED, COMMUNICATION WITH OUR DEPARTMENT
HE PRICED.
AND LOOKING AT PROJECTS.
AND HOW CAN WE GET THAT INFORMATION ON THE WEB SITE AND
SHOWCASE IS SO PEOPLE CAN SEE VISUALLY WHAT IS COMING
OPPOSED TO SEEING THEIR ROAD TORN UP.
IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
THEY HAVE SEVERAL FIRMS TO HIRE AN OUTSIDE PR ALMOST AND
MAKING SURE IT IS MORE COHESIVE.
04:34:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE SOMETIMES THAT IS
AN ISSUE.
I AM HAPPY TO HEAR WORKING TOWARD WORKING TOGETHER.
BUT EVEN MORE SO MAYBE BEING -- I DON'T WANT TO SAY A
SUPERVISOR, BUT CERTAINLY HAVING A LITTLE MORE HAND BE IN
THAT WORK.
LOOKING FORWARD FOR THAT COMING TO FRUITION.
04:35:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMEMBER.
04:35:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WANT TO PUSH BACK.
VIERA DID A GOOD JOB, BUT 2300 FOLLOWERS.
GREAT JOB NONETHELESS.
04:35:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MORE THAN ME.
04:35:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
BECAUSE HE IS CONSISTENT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT.
YOU SHOWED THE DIFFERENT CITIES AND HOW WE ARE REALLY
OPERATING.
WE ARE DOING A LOT WITH LESS FOLKS.
THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND I STARTED OFF AS A PUBLIC
RELATIONS POSITION IN MARKETING.
ANYWAY, THE THING THAT IS SURPRISING AND I DIDN'T HEAR
ANYBODY SAY IT, MY PARTICULAR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE
COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN EXTENSIVE.
JUST THIS WEEK, I DID THREE VIDEOS.
YOU KNOW, I SEE THAT YOU ALL STRETCH IT.
AND I KNOW I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE ACCESS TO
YOU ALL WRITING SCRIPTS AND DOING THOSE KIND OF THINGS FOR
ME.
AND, YOU KNOW, PUTTING COMMUNICATION OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC
WHICH I GREATLY APPRECIATE.
JUST -- OUR SOCIAL MEDIA FOLLOWING ALONE IS ONE OF THE
THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT.
IT IS 248,000 FOLLOWERS JUST ON TWITTER, YOU KNOW.
25,000 FOR PARKS AND REC ON FACEBOOK.
THAT IS PROBABLY PARENTS WHO NEED TO SIGN UP FOR SUMMER CAMP
AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I SEE THAT WE DO A REALLY GREAT JOB IN TERMS OF GETTING
COMMUNICATION OUT THERE AND IT HAPPENS IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.
NOTIFICATIONS ON TEXT MESSAGES OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING
IN THE STREET.
THE WEB SITE -- YOU COULD GO TO THE EVENTS CALENDAR JUST TO
KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE CITY, AND REALLY IMPORTANT
PROCESS.
NOT JUST EVENTS BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO YOU ALL DO SOME GREAT THINGS WITH THE STAFF THAT YOU DO
HAVE.
AND I JUST WANT TO PLACE EMPHASIS OF THAT AND APPRECIATE
YOUR REPORT.
YOU REACH PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AND SOME OF THE PRODUCTS ARE
TARGETED.
30s, 40s.
AND WE ARE GETTING THE INFORMATION OFF OF TIK TOK OR
FACEBOOK, SMALL VIDEO ITS AND ALL AND YOU REACH PEOPLE WHERE
THEY ARE, AND THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE AT.
THAT IS I DIDN'T SAY "GOOD JOB."
PART OF THE RECOGNITION.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROFESSIONAL STAFF AND AMATEURS THAT
YOU ARE ABLE TO TARGET AND YOU KNOW WHO IS -- WHO IS THE
CONSUMER OF YOUR PRODUCT.
YES, GOOD JOB.
04:38:10PM >> THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE THINGS, WE HAVE A
GRAPHIC DESIGNER AS I MENTIONED IN OUR DEPARTMENT.
HE IS THE ONE PRODUCING THE SIGNS ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD
WHEN THERE IS A COMMUNITY MEETING COMING UP.
HE MAKES THE INSERTS THAT GO IN YOUR WATER BILL IN ENGLISH
AND SPANISH, WE ARE MAKING CELESTE GIBBONS-PEOPLES ARE
INFORMED WHETHER THEY ARE CHAINED TO THEIR CELL PHONE OR
NOT.
04:38:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
04:38:31PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SORRY MY SOCIAL MEDIA HABITS HAVE BEEN
MENTIONED TWICE.
I WILL ADDRESS THEM.
I BELIEVE JUST LIKE WITH Y'ALL, THAT SOCIAL MEDIA IS SO
IMPORTANT BECAUSE SHOWS NOT OWN THE THINGS YOU ARE DOING AND
WORKING ON.
BUT ON THE LARGER VISION, THIS SHOWS YOUR VALUES.
THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS VALUES AND I SEE IT ON THE SOCIAL
MEDIA SITE OF THE MAYOR, ETC., OF BEING A GROWING CITY, A
INCLUSIVE CITY THAT VALUES DIVERSITY AND PLURALISM.
WE SHOW VALUES THROUGH OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.
THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON MENTIONED THE VIDEO DEPARTMENT.
I MADE GREAT USE FOR OUR VIDEO DEPARTMENT.
FEW WEEKS AGO I DID SOMETHING FOR VIETNAM VETERANS.
AND I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT BEATS ME PICKING UP MY CELL
PHONE AND LET'S SHOOT A VIDEO.
SOMETHING UNIQUE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT DESERVE AS GOOD
PROFESSIONAL PRESENCE, I USE THAT.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL COUNCILMEMBERS TO DO THAT.
I THINK THAT IS GREAT.
YOU DO A VERY GOOD JOB FROM A PR MARKETING PERSPECTIVE.
NOT ONLY SHOWING WHAT THE CITY IS DOING BUT SHOWING THE
VALUES.
AND I THINK -- AND THIS -- I THINK IT IS -- IT IS -- HOW
SHOULD I SAY A TRICKLE-DOWN EFFECT WITH MAYOR CASTOR.
SOMETIMES I AGREE AND ESTIMATES I DISAGREE WITH HER.
ONE OF THE THINGS I FOUND WITH JANE CASTOR.
SHE IS VERY HUM BELL AND SOME POLITICIANS WANT CREDIT AND
THEY DON'T LIKE ANYBODY -- SHE IS NOT LIKE THAT.
I FIND SHE IS MORE ADDITION OPPOSED TO SUBTRACTION AND
SOMETHING WE SEE MORE AND MORE.
IF A COUNCILMEMBER IS WORKING ON SOMETHING.
I COULDN'T HAVE IT AND NEHEMIAH PROJECT AND COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO, THE PROJECT THAT MADE GOOD ON IT IN MANY WAYS
WITH THE STORMWATER PROJECT AND RETENTION POND IN EAST
TAMPA, SOMETHING HE CHAMPIONED AND SOMETHING THEY ARE
PASSIONATE ABOUT AND DOESN'T WORK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION,
YOU DO A GOOD JOB IF YOU REMEMBER TO PUSH THAT
COUNCILMEMBER.
I REMEMBER WHEN -- WHEN I DID THE -- THE APPRENTICESHIP
ORDINANCE, SOMETHING TOGETHER WITH MAYOR CASTOR AND ETC.
SO, YEAH, I -- I FIND THAT TO BE A GOOD DEVELOPMENT.
BUT, AGAIN, IT IS ABOUT VALUES.
AND THAT IS WHAT SOCIAL MEDIA IS ABOUT.
SHOWING YOUR KIND OF VALUES YOU HAVE AS A PERSON.
FOR ME VALUES ARE EVERYTHING IN PUBLIC OFFICE.
04:41:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:41:03PM >> THANK YOU.
04:41:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NEXT UP, STAFF TO APPEAR TO DISCUSS THE
APPOINTMENT MUCH THE COMMITTEE BENEFIT AGREEMENT MEMBERS.
THIS IS A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:41:14PM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, JAVIER MARIN, DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
ITEM 84 IS AN UPDATE ON THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS ADVISORY
COUNCIL, WHICH DERIVES FROM RESOLUTION ORDINANCE
ESTABLISHING THE -- THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS PROGRAM BACK IN
JANUARY OF 2023.
IT REQUIRES THAT SEVEN MEMBERS BE APPOINT THE TO THIS
COUNCIL.
AND THERE ARE BASICALLY TWO PERMANENT MEMBERS TO THE
COMMITTEE.
ONE IS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.
THE OTHER IS APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AND EACH -- EACH
SPECIFIC PROJECT WOULD HAVE FOUR ADDITIONAL COUNCILMEMBERS.
THESE ARE APPOINTED TWO BY CITY COUNCIL.
TWO BY THE MAYOR.
SO WE ARE WORKING -- WELL, I AM SORRY, AND THEN THE SEVENTH
MEMBER IS APPOINTED BY THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE CLERK'S
OFFICE TO DEVELOP THE PROCESS OF WHICH THE COMMUNITY CAN BE
ADVISED OF THE OPENING FROM THE COUNCIL -- FOR THESE --
THESE ADVISORY COUNCIL.
AND SO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IS, FIRST, WE ARE GOING TO
ESTABLISH -- OR THE CRITERIA HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR THE
PERMANENT MEMBERS FOR SOME EXPERIENCE THAT RELATE TO LAND
PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING AND SIMILAR DISCIPLINES.
AND BUT FOR THE AD HOC MEMBERS AND THE PROJECT'S SPECIFIC
MEMBERS.
THE ONLY REQUIREMENT IS THAT PEOPLE NEED TO LIVE WITHIN HA
OF A MILE OF EACH PROJECT.
TO THAT END, WE HAVE DEVELOPED GIS MAPPING SO PEOPLE CAN
ACTUALLY GO TO THE WEB SITE.
TYPE IN THEIR ADDRESS.
AND THEN IDENTIFY WHETHER THEY QUALIFY TO SERVE IN ANY OR
MORE OF THESE COMMUNITIES OR COUNCILS.
AND SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE CAC MEMBERS
QUALIFY TO BE MEMBERS OF THE AD HOC MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY
COUNCIL.
SO TO THAT END, OUR REQUEST TODAY IS FOR A MOTION TO
SCHEDULE A DATE.
WE ARE HOPING JUNE 6, SO COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER THE APPLICANTS
AND SELECT COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THE COMMUNITY BENEFITS
ADVISORY COUNCIL.
04:43:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
I JUST WANT TO SAY GREAT JOB WITH THE GIS MAPPING TO MAKE IT
EASY.
BECAUSE THE FIRST QUESTION WE ARE GOING TO GET IS, YOU WELL,
YOU KNOW, WHAT DO I QUALIFY FOR, YOU KNOW.
AND THIS MAKES IT VERY EASY.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
ANY DISCUSSION?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, THIS WAS YOUR MOTION.
04:44:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM FINE.
04:44:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSE?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
04:44:15PM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
GOOD NIGHT.
04:44:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE ALMOST LAST ITEM.
TWO APPROVALS TO DO.
ITEM NUMBER 85.
A BRIEF DISCUSSION OF POSTPONING THE YBOR CITY PARKING LOT.
THAT'S CORRECT?
04:44:35PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE BASE AND PUBLIC
FEEDBACK.
04:44:39PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD AFTERNOON, ABBYE FEELEY, DEPUTY
ADMINISTRATOR OF GROWTH MANAGEMENT.
APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS BROUGHT FORTH BY THE BAILEYS AS WE
ARE 80% ON THE WAY THERE FOR THEIR TERMS.
ONE THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE YOU MAKE A DECISION
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THE
TRANSMITTAL PACKAGE TODAY.
FIRST OF ALL, IT IS A TRANSMITTAL PACKAGE.
IT IS GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL MAKE A FINDING WHETHER OR NOT
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
YOU ARE NOT VOTING ON THIS TODAY.
IT WILL NOT BE BACK BEFORE YOU UNTIL JUNE.
SO IF TWEAKS NEED TO BE MADE IN RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER
THINGS AND PEOPLE HAVE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE, I WILL ASK AT THIS
POINT BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH WE HAVE
DONE, THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT WE HAD, THAT THEY HAVE
DIRECTLY PROVIDED THAT LANGUAGE SO WE CAN LOOK AT HOW THEY
ARE TO INCORPORATE THAT OR DISCUSS THAT FURTHER.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS.
THE TIMING -- WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN MORNING WAS ABOUT 2010.
UNFORTUNATELY, NEITHER SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, MYSELF OR MR.
COTTON WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENFORCEMENT IN 2010.
WE CAN ONLY BE WITH YOU HERE IN 2024.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU HAVE A LOT THAT IS OUT THERE
TODAY THAT IS NOT PERMITTED, WE STARTED ENFORCEMENT IN
OCTOBER.
AND THOSE LOTS WERE CITED TO GO AND GET A PERMIT.
THIS IS NOT MAKING THOSE LOTS ILLEGAL TODAY.
IF YOU DON'T GET ONE BY THE TIME IN GOES INTO EFFECT, YOU
WOULD HAVE TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL AS SPECIAL USE 2 AND HAVE
A PUBLIC HEARING AND REQUEST YOUR LOT.
AS I MENTIONED PRIOR ALSO, THERE ARE ONLY SEVEN VACANT LOTS
IN THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT PERMITS PARKING LOTS BY RIGHT AT
THE PRESENT TIME THAT I DON'T BELIEVE ARE OWNED BY ANY OF
THE OPERATORS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OPERATING LOTS.
I WILL ASK THAT THE STAY IN THE PACKAGE AND THIS MOVE
FORWARD IF NOT, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO
ACHIEVE.
THIS IS A TRANSMITTAL HEARING AGAIN.
NOTHING IS BEING ADOPTED TODAY.
IF PEOPLE HAVE OTHER LANGUAGE THEY WOULD LIKE CONSIDERED.
THAT CAN BE PROVIDED TO THE CITY OVER THE NEXT SIX WEEKS AND
WE CAN LOOK AT THAT WHEN YOU SEE THIS ON FIRST READING IN
JUNE.
04:47:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
04:47:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AGREE.
I THINK CITY STAFF HAS WORKED INCREDIBLY HARD ON THIS.
AND EVERY DEPARTMENT.
THEY HAVE PUT -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOURS.
COUNTLESS HOURS WORKING ON THIS.
I THINK IT WILL BEHOOVE US TO SUPPORT CITY STAFF IN MOVING
THIS FORWARD.
04:47:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
04:47:28PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AGREED.
04:47:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:47:32PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I THINK THE BAILEYS ARE REASONABLE PEOPLE
AND I THINK THAT -- I WOULD REQUEST THAT STAFF MEET WITH
THEM TO, AGAIN, 80%, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS -- IS NOT
DIFFICULT TO DO THAT IS -- THAT HELPS OR PROTECTS THE
COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT IT, IT IS WORTH THE STAFF HAVING
ANOTHER CONVERSATION AND COMING BACK, BUT IN LIGHT OF THAT,
I WILL VOTE NO TO THE TRANSMITTAL, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS A
MAJOR ISSUE IN YBOR AND IT NEEDS -- IF MAJOR COMMUNITY
LEADERS IN YBOR HAVE CONCERNS, THEN I HAVE CONCERNS ALSO.
THANK YOU.
04:48:10PM >> WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF COUNCIL THEN?
04:48:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION.
04:48:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
04:48:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
DO YOU HAVE A WHOLE PRESENTATION?
04:48:22PM >> THE YBOR PARKING REGULATIONS ARE ONE OF TEN TRANSMITTED
TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY.
MOST OF THEM YOU HAVE SEEN A NUMBER OF TIMES THROUGH
WORKSHOPS.
ERIC AND I DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION.
AND THEN THERE IS ONE AMENDMENT YOU HAVE NOT SEEN.
AND THAT IS THE AMENDMENT THAT WAS MOTIONED JUST A FEW WEEKS
AGO BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE ALCOHOLIC
BEVERAGE AT THE SOCCER STADIUM.
I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT BRIEFLY ON THAT.
THREE SLIDES.
SOMETHING YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO BE
INFORMED ABOUT BEFORE WE TRANSMIT.
AND THE OTHER YOU HAVE SEEN.
SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THOSE BRIEFLY.
I DON'T THINK IT WILL TAKE US ABOUT A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
04:49:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WOULD LET MY MOTION STAND WITH THE
PRESENTATION WITH THE ONE TRANSMITTAL THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN
YET.
04:49:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SHOW US THE UNSEEN TRANSMITTAL.
SPORTS TEAM ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
04:49:13PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
BACK A FEW WEEKS AGO, THE MOTION WAS MADE
FOR STAFF TO WORK TO COME UP WITH LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ALLOW
FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES AT THE NEW SOCCER STADIUM THAT
IS GOING TO BE LOCATED AT BLAKE HIGH SCHOOL.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WAS, WE LOOKED AT THIS MORE
GLOBALLY, NOT JUST AT A CASE SPECIFIC MENTIONED.
SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE WAS PROPOSE IT AS SPECIAL USE 1, WHICH
IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW.
AND PART OF THIS WAS DONE IN TIMING TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS
TO BE START WITH THE SEASON IN AUGUST.
IT DOES HAVE TO BE -- IT IS AN ANNUAL PERMIT.
SO EACH YEAR, THEY WOULD COME IN.
THEY WOULD SAY HERE IS OUR SCHEDULE FOR THE COMING YEAR.
HERE IS OUR LOCATION.
HERE IS THE TEAM WE ARE AFFILIATED WITH.
HERE IS -- HERE IS THE -- HERE IS THE OWNER OF THE LAND, THE
LAND HAS TO BE CONTROLLED BY A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY FOR THEM
TO QUALIFY FOR THAT TYPE OF ANNUAL PERMIT.
AND THEN THE SALES MAY ONLY OCCUR ON THE DAYS OF SCHEDULED
EVENTS.
SO THEY COME IN, THEY GIVE US THE SCHEDULE FOR THE SEASON.
WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
THEY MAY ONLY HAVE SALES ON THOSE DAYS.
SALES WOULD CEASE AT MIDNIGHT.
AND THEN IF THAT TEAM CEASES TO OPERATE AT THAT PARTICULAR
LOCATION, THAT APPROVAL WILL CEASE AS WELL.
IF IT IS IN CITY PROPERTIES, WOULD NEED TO HAVE THE MAYOR'S
AUTHORIZATION AND MAINTAIN THE REQUIRED SECURITY THAT WE
REQUIRE FOR TEMPORARY SPECIAL EVENTS.
THE LAST THING IS -- I AM SORRY ARE -- THE S-1s REQUIRES
PUBLIC NOTICE JUST LIKE REGULAR SPECIAL USE.
ALL WITHIN 300 FEET.
SORRY, THAT TAKES --
04:51:06PM >> COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:51:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
DOES THE RESTRICTION ON SALES OF GAME AND
MATCH DAYS.
IF THE TEAM HAD A SPECIAL EVENT OR KICKOFF OR SOMETHING
ELSE.
HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE TEAM ABOUT THAT?
I HAVEN'T SPOKEN WITH THEM ABOUT THAT.
04:51:21PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
TYLER HUDSON IS HERE REPRESENTING THE TEAMED
TO.
I WILL LET HIM TALK THAT BUT THE LANGUAGE WAYS GREED ON.
04:51:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IF IT IS AGREED UPON.
I DIDN'T WANT TO BE EXCLUSIONARY IF THEY HAD A KICKOFF FOR
SOMETHING THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY A MATCH.
04:51:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:51:42PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
FIRST TIME THAT I HEARD YOU CAN GET RID
OF THE LIQUOR BECAUSE THE PROFIT IS OWNED BY A GOVERNMENTAL
AGENCY?
04:51:50PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
SO, THEY WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR A TEMPORARY
-- WE HAD TO BALANCE THIS LANGUAGE WITH THE LICENSING THAT
IS DONE BY THE STATE.
AND THAT FACILITY WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR A TEMPORARY SPECIAL
EVENT SITUATION.
SO THAT IS WHY WE WENT IN THIS DIRECTION, BUT THE WAY WE DID
IT WAS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SITE THAT IS 15 ACRES OR MORE.
04:52:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SITE SPECIFIC.
04:52:18PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
HAD TO BE OWNED BY A GOVERNMENT ENTITY.
AT FIRST, THEY SAID EVERY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY SHOULD GET
THIS.
WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SPORTS TEAM.
15 ACRES.
THEY WOULD GO BACK INTO THAT.
04:52:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
15 ACRES IN TAMPA --
04:52:32PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
YES.
THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE DID THAT.
WITH THAT BEING SAID ALSO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A TEXT
AMENDMENT THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THIS AND GET THIS TEED UP FOR
THIS UPCOMING SEASON AND THIS TEAM COMING INTO OUR
COMMUNITY.
IF THIS IS NOT THE DIRECTION WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE
PERMANENTLY IN THE LONGER RANGE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON
THAT.
IN ORDER TO GET THE TIMING DONE, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP.
04:52:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I UNDERSTAND.
I WANTED EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND WHY.
04:53:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ARE THERE MORE SLIDES?
04:53:06PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
NO.
04:53:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM GOOD.
04:53:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE WILL MOVE IT TO TAKE IT TO THE
PLANNING COMMISSION.
04:53:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION STANDS TO TRANSMIT.
04:53:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
04:53:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND
SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
OPPOSED, NAY
04:53:23PM >>CLERK:
MOTION WITH CARLSON AND MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
04:53:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LAST UP ON THE AGENDA, COUNCILMAN
CARLSON.
YOU PULLED 53 AND 54, IS THAT CORRECT?
04:53:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SORRY TO MAKE YOU WAIT SO LONG.
THE -- THE QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC IS -- IS THIS GOING TO
BE HANDLED BY STAFF?
OR IS IT GOING TO BE OUTSOURCED.
IF IT IS GOING TO BE OUTSOURCED, THEN TO WHOM.
I COULDN'T FIND IN THE DOCUMENTS WHO IT WILL BE OUTSOURCED
TOO IF IT IS.
04:53:57PM >>VIK BHIDE:
VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY.
AND THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO PREFACE WHAT IT IS ON THE AGENDA.
THIS IS YET ANOTHER GRANT THAT THE CITY IS -- IT IS 1.75
MILLION FROM U.S. D.O.T. FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A REGIONAL
INFRASTRUCTURE ACCELERATOR.
WE INTEND FOR THIS ACCELERATOR TO BE REGIONAL.
THIS ITEM THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU IS -- IS A GRANT THAT THE
CITY HAS RECEIVED.
AND IT IS ONLY BETWEEN THE CITY AND USDOT.
BUT THAT IS A VERY VALID QUESTION THAT YOU ASK, BECAUSE IT
IS A REGIONAL ACCELERATOR, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT
LEAVES ROOM OPEN FOR OTHER PUBLIC ENTITIES WITHIN OUR REGION
TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
AND TO THAT END, WE ARE WORKING WITH A THIRD PARTY ACTIVELY
TO HOST THIS ACCELERATOR.
THIS HAS OPINION CLEARED WITH USDOT.
WE DISCUSSED WITH THE THIRD PARTY AS WELL.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS PARTY WILL BE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY
RALLY THE REGION AND HAVE THEM PARTICIPATE IN THIS
ACCELERATOR WHICH IS ENTIRELY VOLUME -- VOLUNTARY.
THAT IS TAMPA BAY PARTNERSHIP AND WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING
THROUGH THAT WITH THEM.
THE IDEA BEHIND THAT, THE PROGRAM -- THE GENESIS OF THE
PROGRAM APPROVED AS PART OF FASFA, THE WHOLE GOAL WAS TO
HAVE BUILD AMERICA BUREAU THAT OPERATES THREE DIFFERENT
FINANCE MECHANISMS HELP CITIES AND REGIONS LIKE OURS WITH
GETTING TECHNICAL SKILLS TO PUT TOGETHER A VISION TO
BASICALLY GO OVER THAT.
DEVELOP A FUNDING STRATEGY.
A FUNDING PLAN FOR ALTERNATIVE DELIVERIES AND GO RAPIDLY TO
DEPLOYMENT.
THE KEY PART OF THIS IS BUILD AMERICA UNDER THE SAME OFFICE
OR THE SAME UNDERSECRETARY AS THE FEDERAL TRANSIT
ADMINISTRATION.
AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IS SIGNIFICANTLY RELAXED A LOT OF
THEIR PROGRAMS, NOT JUST IN TRADITIONAL TRANSIT LIKE STREET
CARS OR BUS RAPID TRANSIT AND SO ON, BUT ALSO TRANSIT
ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
AND THIS IS REALLY KEY, BECAUSE GOING BACK TO COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA'S POINT EARLIER TODAY ABOUT HOUSING TRANSPORTATION
AND ALL OF THESE PRESSURES THAT WE HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY, WE
ARE POTENTIALLY SET SETTING UP AN ACCELERATOR THAT WILL
BRING IN TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO PUT PROJECTS TOGETHER THAT
BUNDLE HOUSING WHICH ALSO BECOMES TRANSIT DEMAND TOGETHER
WITHIN THE CITY AND NOT JUST FOCUS ON INDIVIDUAL POCKETS OF
THE CITY BUT BRING THE HOMES INTO WHERE WE ARE BUILDING THE
TRANSIT ALONG OUR JOBS CORRIDOR AND INVITE THE REGION TO
MAKE CONNECTIONS TO IT AS WELL.
SO ALL OF THE MAJOR PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE ENVISIONED IN THE
MOVES PLAN THAT WE HAVE ENVISIONED IN THE GRANTS DOCUMENT AS
WELL, BUT ALSO REGIONALLY.
ALL OF THESE THAT ARE ALREADY IN LONG-RANGE TRANSPORTATION
PLANS ARE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PLANS OF THE THREE
DIFFERENT MPOs.
AGAIN, VOLUNTARY WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO BE PART OF A LARGE --
04:57:33PM >> VIC, THE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR
DISCLOSING WHO IT WAS, THAT PARTICULAR ENTITY.
DO ITEMS 53 AND 54 INCLUDE THE SUBCONTRACTOR OUTSOURCE OR A
SEPARATE THING TO COME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.
04:57:48PM >> A SEPARATE ITEM AND AND THE PARTNERSHIP OF THE GRANT
AGREEMENT.
I WILL VOTE YES ON THESE TWO.
04:58:02PM >>VIK BHIDE:
ABSOLUTELY.
WE ARE HAPPY TO HOST A WORKSHOP ON THIS BECAUSE I TRULY
BELIEVE THAT GIVEN ALL OF THE FUNDING AVAILABLE THROUGH D.C.
THROUGH OUR PARTNERS IN TALLAHASSEE AS WELL, THE BEGINNING
OF SOMETHING RULE TO THREE BENEFICIAL AND I WILL GIVE ONE
EXAMPLE.
NOT JUST BUNDLING HOUSING AND TRANSPORTATION, BUT ALSO WHEN
WE THINK OF SAFE TRANSIT, WE THINK OF CAPITAL AND OPERATION
SEPARATELY AND OPERATION IS THE RUB.
BEING ABLE TO DEPLOY AND OPERATE A BUS ROUTE OVER 30 YEARS.
SOME OF THESE STRATEGIES.
AND THEY ARE BEING DISCUSSED NATIONALLY.
ONE OF 24 ACCELERATORS WILL BAKE IN THIS 30-YEAR OPERATIONS
AND HOW WE GET THERE IS ASSISTANCE.
04:58:55PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS OFF LINE.
WE PARTNER WITH USF IN LOTS OF OTHER WAYS.
04:59:01PM >>VIK BHIDE:
THEY ARE PARTNERS.
04:59:02PM >> WE SHOULD LEAD AND SUMMARY OF THE ISSUE IS THAT THERE IS
A LOT OF BAGGAGE RELATED TO TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVES GOING
BACK TO 2010.
AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO START WITH KIND OF THE CLEAN
SLATE.
THAT -- I AM TELLING YOU WHAT I HEARD FROM OTHER FOLKS.
04:59:22PM >>VIK BHIDE:
ABSOLUTELY.
WE WILL TALK OFF-LINE.
IF ANYTHING WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH, WE WILL BE HAPPY T
DO THAT.
04:59:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND COUNCILMAN
COUNCILMAN --
04:59:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS IS THE TICKET TO
THE SHOW.
JUST THE ADMISSION TICKET TO THE SHOW AND GOING TO REAP A
LOT BIGGER REWARDS AND BUILD US A STREETCAR.
04:59:43PM >>VIK BHIDE:
IT WILL.
04:59:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THERE WE GO.
04:59:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
YOUR ITEMS 53 AND 54.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THEM.
04:59:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOVE ITEMS 5 AND 54.
04:59:54PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WITH A MOTION FOR
THOSE TWO ITEMS.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH THE SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR AGENDA.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, NEW BUSINESS.
05:00:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
A COUPLE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO
PRESENT THE FISCAL 2024 MIDYEAR REVIEW DURING THE MAY 16,
2024 REGULAR COUNCIL SESSION.
05:00:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION ARE COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
YES, SIR?
05:00:24PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE SECOND ONE, I WOULD LIKE A MOTION FOR
A COMMENDATION FOR WRIGHT'S GOURMET HOUSE FOR CELEBRATING 61
YEARS IN TAMPA.
SERVING THE CITY SINCE 1963.
TRIPADVISOR SAYS ONE OF BEST RESTAURANT IN TAMPA AND THE
STATE OF FLORIDA.
A DATE WILL BE DETERMINED AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS
SO YOU CAN ATTEND IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
05:00:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WILL THERE BE PRINCESS CAKE?
05:00:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ONLY IF YOU PAY FOR IT.
05:00:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND THEN DISCUSSION.
I LOVE PUBLIX BIRTHDAY CAKE; HOWEVER, WRIGHT'S MAKE
THE ALPINE'S CAKE WHICH IS RIGHT THERE.
05:01:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
AS DIABETIC, THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME
THAT AS A DIABETIC.
A THIRD ONE, IF I MAY --
05:01:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED?
05:01:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THE NEXT ONE IS, I THINK ALL OF US --
05:01:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GO AHEAD, SIR.
05:01:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
TODAY WE WERE HANDED SOMETHING FROM THE
TREE GROUP AND MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION TO
LOOK TO PLANT TREES IN THESE SEVEN STATIONS.
05:01:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AGREE.
05:01:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
05:01:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR?
05:01:33PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IT IS FUNNY, BECAUSE I SPOKE WITH THE FAMILY
AFTERWARDS AND I SAID WOULD YOU MIND IF THEY ALSO DID POLICE
STATIONS BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET FIRED, YOU GOT TO GET POLICE
AND WHATEVER.
AGAIN FOR FUTURE --
05:01:52PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
POLICE AND FIRE.
05:01:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE CONSTRUCTION
OF STATIONS?
DO WE KNOW?
05:01:59PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I WOULD IMAGINE ANY NEW ONES WE WOULD DO
IT AUTOMATICALLY.
SOMETHING ELSE IN A DIFFERENT FORM.
05:02:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IN CASE WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE ADDING.
05:02:09PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
WE CAN ADD TO IT ANY TIME WE WANT.
THEY HAVE THE HEART TO DO THIS --
05:02:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EVEN THOSE.
STATIONS WE WANT TO ADD A BAY TOO THAT MAY RESTRICT THE
ABILITY TO DO THAT?
05:02:23PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I AM LOOKING AT HERE AND I AM FAMILIAR
WITH MOST OF THEM AND ONE OF THEM A TREE FELL.
AND I THINK IT IS ROOM FOR -- ALL THESE --
05:02:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WITH THE CAUTION THERE MAY BE AN EXCEPTION
BECAUSE MIRANDA VIERA WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T.
05:02:40PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ALL IN FAVOR, OPPOSED?
05:02:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:02:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:02:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
COUPLE OF ONES.
MAY 2, PLANNING COMMISSION REQUESTED TO ARE MOVE THEIR
REPORT ON THE UNIVERSITY SQUARE PARK PLANNING STUDY TO MAY
22.
05:02:58PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN
MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
05:03:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ASKED WITH OUR FRIEND FROM THE PENGUIN
PROJECT, ALL SPECIAL NEEDS PLAY TO GIVE A COUNCIL
COMMENDATION OFFSITE.
05:03:13PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
05:03:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
05:03:19PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ALSO I HAVE -- I KNOW THE CRB WILL BE BRIEFED
ON THE --
05:03:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THE LEGISLATIVE CHANGES?
05:03:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WHAT THE GOVERNOR SIGNED.
I WANT CITY LEGAL TO COME ON JUNE 6 TO BRIEF US ON THIS.
05:03:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:03:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MR. CHAIRMAN?
05:03:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM.
05:03:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DURING PUBLIC COMMENT SUGGESTED THAT.
IT IS A VERY CLEAR EXPLANATION.
05:03:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
05:03:56PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THEN -- SORRY, LOOKING OVER HERE.
SO IROCO DANCE ACADEMY.
THIS IS A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION.
THEY HELPED OUT WITH THE DELTA, SIGMA, THETA, DANCING WITH
THE STARS THAT I TOOK PART, AND THAT OTHERS DID.
WE WANT TO HONOR THEM FOR THEIR WORK ALONG WITH THE DELTAS
AND OTHERS.
THE STATE I HAVE HERE IS AUGUST 22.
MAY DO IT OFFSITE.
I WANT TO HAVE THAT PLACE HOLD OFFICER I MAY FOR AUGUST 22.
05:04:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
05:04:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANT -- MAY 16, WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES
COMING UP WITH FIRE AND POLICE.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT BRANDON BARCLAY AND NICK STOCCO
BE GIVEN TIME TO THE EXTENT THEY WANT TO PUBLIC SAFETY PLAN
AND ISSUE WITH POLICE AND FIRE AND ISSUES WITH THE TAMPA
FIRE RESCUE UP THERE.
I WANTED TO MAKE SURE -- WE DON'T NEED TO AMEND THE AGENDA,
BUT JUST THE IDEA OF COUNCIL THAT WE GIVE TIME FOR THE UNITS
TO SPEAK AS WELL.
05:05:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
AND A SECOND.
YES, MA'AM?
05:05:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I HAVE NOTHING.
05:05:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I HAVE NOTHING.
05:05:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE LOG.
05:05:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A FEW TODAY.
I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN MAY 16 FOR THE -- I WON A SCHOLARSHIP.
05:05:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
HOW DID YOU GET THAT.
05:05:37PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
APPLIED AND GOT A SCHOLARSHIP.
I AM GOING TO CINCINNATI FOR A WEEK.
VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
SINCE I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN I WOULD LIKE TO RESCHEDULE THE
REPORT ON LILO LOCATIONS UNTIL JULY 18.
I HAVE APPROVED THIS DATE WITH STAFF WHO WILL BE PRESENTING
AND MR. VIERA WHO WAS THE MAKER OF THE MOTION.
05:05:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
05:06:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SIMILARLY, I WOULD LIKE TO RED SCHEDULE THE
SIX PILOT PRESENTATION FROM MAY 16 TO AUGUST 1, WHICH IS THE
EARLIEST DATE THAT THE EXPERT WILL BE AVAILABLE.
05:06:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
DID YOU SAY PILOT?
05:06:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE SIX PILOT.
THE WATER PROJECT.
05:06:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
VERY INTERESTING.
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAS A MOTION.
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:06:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN.
ASK TO TAKE A TOUR.
VERY INTERESTING.
THEY MAY STILL HAVE THE EQUIPMENT THERE.
IT IS AUGUST 1.
I HAVE THESE MOTIONS ALL HANDY FOR THE MINUTES.
THE LAST THING IS SOMETHING THAT MISS FEELEY BROUGHT TO ME.
WE APPROVED OUR CALENDAR; HOWEVER, THEY HAVE ALREADY GOTTEN
SOME REQUESTS FOR ALCOHOL PERMITS THAT THEY WILL NEED TO
HAVE A -- AN ALCOHOL NIGHT.
CURRENTLY THE LAST ALCOHOL NIGHT IS SEPTEMBER.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE IS IN JANUARY.
AND THEY CANNOT WAIT 120 DAYS.
THAT IS JUST TOO LONG.
SO THEY WOULD LIKE TO FIND A WAY THAT WE COULD FIT AN
ALCOHOL NIGHT IN.
THEY ARE CHOICES ARE TO PUT IT ON -- ON THE EVENING OF A
REGULAR SESSION.
WE COULD -- IT IS FAR ENOUGH OUT EITHER OCTOBER OR NOVEMBER
THAT WE CAN LIMIT WHAT IS IN THE STAFF REPORT OR -- AND TO
HAVE IT START AT 5:01.
1:30 TIME CERTAIN AND I AM CONCERNED OF THAT BECAUSE
GENERALLY THE PUBLIC LIKES TO COME OUT FOR THOSE.
SO -- SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PREFERENCE OF OCTOBER 17 OR
NOVEMBER 21?
NOVEMBER 21 IS IN THE MIDDLE AND OF THE THANKSGIVING.
05:07:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I AM OKAY WITH NOVEMBER 21.
05:07:59PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NOT BEFORE THE HOLIDAY.
05:08:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS A WEEK BEFORE THE HOLIDAY.
05:08:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT IS AN IMPORTANT TIME.
05:08:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE REASON -- AND WE CAN DO A DIFFERENT DATE
IN NOVEMBER; HOWEVER, THE REASON THAT MIGHT WORK, RIGHT NOW
WE HAVE NOTHING SCHEDULED FOR THE REGULAR SESSION.
IN THIS MOTION, WE COULD LIMIT STAFF REPORTS TO FIVE OR
FOUR.
SO WE ARE NOT --
05:08:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YOU ARE ASKING FOR IT TO BE AT NIGHT.
05:08:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT IS THE PROBLEM IF NOT AT NIGHT, ANOTHER
DAY OF THE WEEK.
EASIER TO FIT IT IN ON A THURSDAY IF WE -- OR IF WE DECIDE
--
05:08:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PUT IT ON LAND ZONING.
05:08:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE CAN'T.
OUR LAND ZONING ALREADY GOES TO 2 A.M.
05:08:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HOW MANY CASES ARE YOU LOOKING AT?
05:08:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DON'T KNOW.
I AM ASSUMING THAT IT WILL BE A BUNCH.
THEY WILL KEEP IT TO TEN ITEMS IS WHAT THEY SAID.
THEY ARE GENERALLY NOT LONG.
HENDERSON CHINESE ABOUT OCTOBER 3?
05:09:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OCTOBER 3 IS RIGHT AFTER SEPTEMBER.
THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET IT IN.
05:09:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT IS THE OTHER DATE?
05:09:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OCTOBER 17.
05:09:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WHAT ABOUT DECEMBER 5.
05:09:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TWO NIGHT MEET INFORMATION THE ROW.
05:09:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
LET ME STOP THINKING ABOUT THAT.
NOVEMBER 21 IS FINE.
05:09:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WITH THE CONDITION THAT WE ONLY HAVE FOUR
STAFF REPORTS ON.
05:09:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I FORGOT WHAT YOUR RULE IS.
05:09:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE RULE IS LIKE SEVEN.
BUT FOR MERE, IF WE ARE TRYING TO HAVE --
05:09:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BY THE WAY, I SHOULD ALSO JUST POINT OUT
THAT THE LAST MEETING BEFORE A BREAK, A LOT OF THINGS COME
ON THE AGENDA FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.
BECAUSE THEY KNOW YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE MEETING FOR A BIT.
05:09:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
LIMIT IT TO THREE STAFF REPORTS?
05:09:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
YES.
YOU MEAN TO GET OUT OF HERE DURING THE DAY SESSION.
05:10:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
TO HAVE A BREAK IN BETWEEN.
05:10:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ALREADY TEN MINUTES INTO THE NIGHT MEETING.
05:10:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WHAT I WILL SAY IS THIS IS OUR MOTION.
WE ARE GOING TO ADD A ALCOHOL BEVERAGE MEETING ON NOVEMBER
21 AT 5:01 P.M. AND WE WILL LIMIT STAFF REPORTS DURING
REGULAR SESSION TO FOUR.
05:10:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
AMEN.
SECOND.
05:10:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SUPPORT THAT.
ALL IN FAVOR, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY OPPOSED.
05:10:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I DIDN'T WRITE THE LAST ONE OUT BUT I HAVE
THESE TWO FOR YOU.
05:10:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:10:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I HAVE TWO HOPEFULLY ONES.
ONE IS I NEED TO FILE MY FORMS A AND B.
FILE THE AB RECUSAL FORMS.
05:10:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY OPPOSED?
05:10:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
TO REMIND ANYBODY WATCHING ETHICS COMMISSION
OF STATE LAW PREFERS THAT YOU RECUSE YOURSELF IN ABUNDANCE
OF CAUTION.
SO THAT'S WHY I DO THAT.
05:11:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR QUASI-JUDICIAL MATTERS.
05:11:05PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NUMBER TWO, LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE,
THERE WAS A DISCUSSION OF REAL ESTATE PROJECTS AND
SUBSIDIZING REAL ESTATE PROJECTS.
I THINK SO AS TO AVOID ANY KIND OF ARGUMENTS OR BIG
DISCUSSIONS LATER ON THAT WE OUGHT TO WORKSHOP, POSSIBLE
GUIDELINES OR PREFERENCES AROUND DEVELOPER SUBSIDIES.
AND REALLY I AM TALKING OF EXCLUDING.
MAYBE EXCLUDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO ADD TO THE JUNE 27 WORKSHOP
A DISCUSSION WHETHER WE SHOULD PUT ANY GUIDELINES OR LIMITS
ON DEVELOPER SUBSIDIES.
05:11:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WHAT DATE DID YOU SAY?
05:11:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
JUNE 27.
05:11:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION?
05:11:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
05:11:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A SECOND?
05:11:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
CHARLIE SAID SECOND FOR DISCUSSION.
05:11:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
[INAUDIBLE]
-- MADE VERY, VERY GOOD SENSE -- INSTEAD OF PAYING MONEY INTO
IT.
YOU WORK SOMETHING OUT WHETHER YOU GET MORE PER UNIT AND YOU
DON'T PAY THE MONEY.
YOU LET THEM HANDLE IT AND PUT IN WHAT THEY WANT AS FAR AS
THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
YOU ASK FOR 20 AND YOU GET SO MUCH MONEY TO BUILD THE 20.
YOU BUILT THE 20 AND 15 MORE AND WHATEVER YOU HANDLE IT ALL.
THAT IS THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
05:12:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:12:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS, BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT
COMES IN FRONT OF US IS DIFFERENT.
EVERYTHING.
WE WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY NO TO IT, BUT I DON'T WANT
TO STOP OUR STAFF FROM BEING ABLE TO NEGOTIATE, TO CREATE
THINGS.
AND I THINK THAT THERE IS A -- THERE IS PROBABLY AN INHERENT
DISAGREEMENT HOW THEY SHOULD USE MONEY.
SOME OF IT DOESN'T NEED MONEY.
SOME OF IT CAN BE INCENTIVES.
05:13:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
NOT MY IDEA.
05:13:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE APPROVED THAT TO GO TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION, SOME OF THAT INCENTIVES.
I DON'T WANT TO TIE OUR HANDS WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT
INCENTIVIZE OR HOW WE INCENTIVIZE DEVELOPMENT.
05:13:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:13:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY, IT IS ONE AT A TIME.
THEY CAN PITCH A PROJECT.
WE CAN SHOOT IT DOWN, REJECT IT.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- NECESSARILY TYING OUR HANDS WHEN WE
ALREADY HAVE THAT ABILITY.
05:13:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:13:38PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THIS IS FOR JUST AUTO WORK.
05:13:43PM >> SO SHOP?
05:13:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
IN IS JUST A WORKSHOP.
05:13:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:13:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SOUNDS LIKE IT IS GOING TO FAIL.
BUT IT IS JUST A WORKSHOP.
THE IDEA IS THAT -- I NEED TO SAY THIS.
IF YOU LISTEN TO THE STAFF, THEY ARE SPENDING ENORMOUS
AMOUNTS OF TIME SUBSIDIZING REAL ESTATE PROJECTS THAT ARE
NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE WAY THEY LOOK AT IT, PUTTING
IN $10 MILLION IN SUBSIDIES.
OVER A PERIOD OF TIME YOU CAN GET TAX MONEY OUT.
THE EXPECTATION THAT WE WOULDN'T SUBSIDIZE THAT AND FIX
ROADS AND THINGS.
IF WE ARE ABLE TO GIVE THEM DIRECTION, I THINK IT WILL SAVE
A HUGE AMOUNT OF TIME IN THEIR REAL ESTATE AND ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
IF WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM GUIDELINES, WE CAN REJECT THEM
ONE BY ONE.
MY PERSONAL PRESENCE, I WOULD RATHER THEM FOCUS ON JOB
CREATION AND REAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN
SUBSIDIZING REAL ESTATE PROJECTS.
05:14:39PM >> THEY HAVE GOVERNMENT TO PITCH IT.
PITCH WHAT WE GOT.
IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT, WE SHOOT IT DOWN.
TO HONESTLY -- WE ALREADY HAVE TOO MUCH ON THESE AGENDAS.
ANOTHER WORKSHOP AGENDA.
I AM LIKE, MY GOD, FIVE DAYS -- HERE FIVE DAY AS WEEK.
I MEAN, LET'S DO IT.
FIVE DAY AS WEEK.
AND -- DAYS A WEEK.
OR WE WORKSHOP EVERYTHING.
OUR CLERK IS GOING NO, NO!
[LAUGHTER]
05:15:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I WILL BE COMING BACK WITH THE RULES.
I BELIEVE YOU WANT TO BE OUT BY 1:00 ON WORKSHOP DAYS.
05:15:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THAT IS TRUE.
05:15:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YOU HAVE TO PLAN YOUR AGENDA TO BE MINDFUL
OF THE FACT YOU WILL GET OUT BY 1:00.
05:15:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET'S JUST VOTE.
YES, SIR?
05:15:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
AGAIN, I AM OPEN TO WORKSHOPS.
IF WE CREATE RULES, RIGHT, THAT WILL LIMIT IN WORKSHOP, WE
CAN MOVE IT TO ANOTHER DAY.
THINGS I TRIED TO GET ON THE CALENDAR BEFORE AND GOT SHOT
DOWN, AND I THINK COUNCILMEMBERS SHOULD BE HEARD UNLESS IT
IS A COMPLETELY OUTLANDISH IDEA.
I WILL SUPPORT IT AND FINE WITH IT BEING HEARD.
05:15:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON MADE A MOTION.
DOES THE SECOND STILL STAND?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
OVERWHELMING NO.
05:15:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CARSON AND VIERA WERE THE YESES.
05:16:16PM >>CLERK:
MOTION FAILED WITH HURTAK, CLENDENIN, MANISCALCO,
HENDERSON, AND MIRANDA VOTING NO.
05:16:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
FILLING ELSE, SIR?
05:16:27PM >>BILL CARLSON:
NO.
JUST ONE LAST THING ON THAT.
WE -- THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT OF TIME WASTED LOOKING AT
THESE PROJECTS.
I THINK A LOT MORE TIMES THAN OTHERWISE.
ANYWAY, WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
THANK YOU, ALL.
05:16:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:16:40PM >>LUIS VIERA:
RETIRED REESE HAS PASSED ON.
05:16:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MY CONDOLENCES TO HIS FAMILY.
05:16:54PM >>LUIS VIERA:
GOD REST HIS SOUL.
HE WAS HERE A LOT.
VERY NICE GENTLEMAN.
05:16:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HE PASSED ON.
05:17:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PASSED ON.
05:17:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HE WAS ON DUTY.
STILL WORKING.
05:17:06PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HE RETIRED IN THE RESERVES.
05:17:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
RESERVES.
05:17:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THANK YOU FOUR SHARING.
05:17:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:17:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I REMEMBER HIM DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB AT
THE CONVENTION CENTER DURING A VERY TOUGH TIME FOR THE
PUBLIC.
05:17:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ABSOLUTELY.
ALWAYS GREAT WITH THE PUBLIC.
05:17:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
SORRY, COUNCIL, DID YOU CALL IT ADJOURNED.
I HAVE TWO ITEMS.
05:17:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
TO RECEIVE AND FILED.
GO AHEAD.
05:17:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TWO ITEMS.
NUMBER ONE, I MAILED -- I E-MAILED YOU THREE APPLICATIONS TO
THE HILLS RIVER PLANNING BOARD'S TECHNICAL ADVISORY
COMMITTEE.
IT IS NOT ON YOUR AGENDA.
DO YOU WANT TO SET IT TO HAVE -- TO HAVE EITHER A DECISION
OR DO YOU WANT THE APPLICANTS TO COME IN?
HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT.
05:17:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HOW MANY VACANCIES.
05:18:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ONE VACANCY.
05:18:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THREE APPLICANTS.
05:18:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW
THAT.
BUT COUNCIL, THERE IS UNUSUAL.
NOT AN APPOINTMENT TO THE BOARD.
IT CAN BE DONE BY A COUNCIL VOTE OR A LETTER FROM THE CHAIR,
BUT THE PLANNING -- THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS WAITING TO
HAVE THIS POSITION FILLED.
05:18:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN WE DO IT NEXT WEEK, TWO WEEKS?
05:18:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WELL, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, YOUR AGENDA --
SOONER THE BETTER.
MAY 16.
05:18:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
DONE.
05:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT GOOD.
DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THAT?
05:18:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
YES, BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU --
05:18:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FOR MAY 16.
MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:18:41PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
ONE LAST THING.
I WILL NOT BE HERE NEXT WEEK.
I WILL BE AT THE HILLSBOROUGH BAR LAND USE LAW CONFERENCE,
SEVEN-HOUR CONFERENCE AND JUSTIN VASKE HAS KINDLY OFFERED TO
SIT IN WHILE I AM AWAY.
05:19:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I WILL MISS YOU.
05:19:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THANK YOU.
THANK THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
05:19:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE WILL ENJOY.
05:19:10PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
I AGREED?
05:19:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WE ARE ADJOURNED.
05:19:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
5:19.

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