TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, JUNE 6, 2024
9:00 A.M.
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09:02:39AM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
09:02:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARE WE GOOD?
09:02:49AM GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, WELCOME TO TODAY'S TAMPA CITY
09:02:53AM COUNCIL MEETING.
09:02:53AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
09:02:55AM AT THIS TIME FOR INVOCATION, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, DO YOU
09:02:58AM HAVE ANYBODY?
09:03:00AM OKAY.
09:03:00AM SO IN LIEU OF THAT, IF WE CAN STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR
09:03:06AM THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
09:03:08AM TODAY IS THE 80th ANNIVERSARY OF THE D-DAY INVASION.
09:03:13AM AND I WANT FOR US TO REMEMBER THOSE WHO MADE THE ULTIMATE
09:03:16AM SACRIFICE 80 YEARS AGO TODAY.
09:03:18AM OF THOSE GREAT AMERICAN HEROES.
09:03:21AM I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AT LEAST TWO.
09:03:23AM THESE WERE TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT GRADUATED FROM HILLSBOROUGH
09:03:26AM HIGH SCHOOL.
09:03:27AM FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO NAME FIRST LIEUTENANT MARY ROBERTS OF
09:03:31AM THE 101st AIRBORNE EZ COMPANY AND PRIVATE OWEN OF THE 82nd
09:03:39AM AIRBORNE.
09:03:39AM THEY ARE BURIED IN NORMANDY AT THE AMERICAN CEREMONY.
09:03:43AM ONE OF MANY HEROES.
09:03:45AM LIVE BROADCASTS ON TV OF THE REMAINING D-DAY SURVIVORS.
09:03:51AM THE PRESIDENT IS THERE.
09:03:52AM MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NEVER FORGOTTEN.
09:03:55AM TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO REMEMBER THEM.
09:03:57AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:04:06AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
09:04:22AM ALL RIGHT, IF WE CAN HAVE ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
09:04:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
09:04:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
09:04:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
09:04:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
09:04:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
09:04:30AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
09:04:32AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
09:04:32AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
09:04:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAY WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE
09:04:37AM MINUTES OF MAY 23.
09:04:44AM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND.
09:04:49AM RECOGNIZE THE CHOIR.
09:04:52AM PLEASE COME UP AND STAND SO WE CAN RECOGNIZE YOU AND SEE YOU
09:04:58AM TODAY.
09:04:58AM [APPLAUSE]
09:05:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:05:06AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:05:07AM ALL RIGHT, JUST -- LET'S GO THROUGH THE AGENDA AT THIS TIME.
09:05:11AM WE WILL BEGIN WITH ITEM NUMBER 3.
09:05:13AM THERE IS A TIME CERTAIN AT 10 A.M. FOR THIS ITEM.
09:05:17AM WE HAVE A FEW PRESENTATIONS BEFORE.
09:05:19AM BUT ONCE 10 A.M. COMES, WE WILL GO ITEM NUMBER 3.
09:05:27AM WE HAVE A MEMO FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK THAT ITEM 13 BE
09:05:31AM PULLED FOR DISCUSSION UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:05:33AM WE WILL MOVE THAT.
09:05:34AM IS THAT CORRECT, COUNCILMEMBER?
09:05:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
09:05:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MEMO FROM OUR CFO DENNIS ROGERO FOR
09:05:44AM ITEM 27 TO BE HEARD WITH 87 UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:05:48AM PULLING 27 AND MOVING IT TO STAFF REPORTS WITH 87.
09:05:51AM A MEMO FROM CHIEF BENNETT REQUESTING THAT ITEM NUMBER 45 TO
09:05:55AM BE HEARD FIRST AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
09:05:58AM WE HAVE MEMO RECEIVED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN ITEMS 57 AND
09:06:03AM 58 TO BE PULLED FOR DISCUSSION UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
09:06:06AM AND NOW I WILL GO THROUGH STAFF REPORTS ONE BY ONE THERE WAS
09:06:13AM NO ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE.
09:06:15AM ITEM NUMBER 86 IS A LARGE AMOUNT.
09:06:20AM STAFF PRESENT FOR 86?
09:06:22AM NO?
09:06:23AM OKAY.
09:06:23AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ACTUALLY, YEAH, I THINK PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS
09:06:28AM ABOUT THIS.
09:06:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S -- THIS IS STREET REPAVING.
09:06:31AM 87, YES.
09:06:33AM A YES FROM ME.
09:06:34AM A HUGE AMOUNT.
09:06:37AM ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 88.
09:06:40AM NO?
09:06:45AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SAY THAT OUT LOUD.
09:06:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO STAFF FOR 88.
09:06:50AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE PEOPLE AT HOME AND ADMINISTRATION
09:06:52AM LISTENING, THANK YOU.
09:06:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 89.
09:06:56AM DO WE NEED STAFF PRESENT FOR 89?
09:06:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK SO.
09:07:01AM I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM.
09:07:03AM AN EXCITING GRANT.
09:07:05AM $20 MILLION FROM THE FEDS FOR SAFE STREETS AND ROADS.
09:07:09AM 89 AND 90 TOGETHER.
09:07:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO TO THAT.
09:07:14AM GOES TO HABANA AND OTHER PLACES.
09:07:17AM NO TO 89 AND 09.
09:07:19AM ITEM NUMBER 90.
09:07:22AM NO?
09:07:24AM -- SORRY, 91.
09:07:25AM DO WE NEED A YES?
09:07:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, BECAUSE THIS GOES WITH THE OTHER PAVING
09:07:30AM AT THE FIRST ONE.
09:07:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 92, YES.
09:07:33AM >>CLERK: REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE.
09:07:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 91.
09:07:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
09:07:42AM >>CLERK: ITEM --
09:07:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CONTINUE UNTIL JULY 18.
09:07:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS JULY 18.
09:07:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:07:53AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:07:55AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:07:56AM ITEM NUMBER 92, MR. SHELBY, YES.
09:07:59AM ITEM NUMBER 93, MR. SHELBY, YES.
09:08:03AM ITEM NUMBER 94.
09:08:05AM YES ON 94.
09:08:07AM ITEM NUMBER 95?
09:08:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
09:08:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MEMO.
09:08:13AM WE WILL RECEIVE AND FILE THAT.
09:08:15AM ITEM NUMBER 96, YES.
09:08:17AM THAT IS REGARDING SULPHUR SPRINGS.
09:08:19AM ITEM NUMBER 97.
09:08:21AM A WRITTEN REPORT, COUNCILMAN VIERA?
09:08:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL SPEAK ON THAT.
09:08:26AM BUT I DON'T THINK WE WILL NEED ANYBODY HERE FOR THAT.
09:08:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 98.
09:08:30AM IT IS GOING TO BE AN IN-PERSON REPORT, YES.
09:08:36AM ITEM NUMBER 99, YES.
09:08:40AM ITEM NUMBER 100.
09:08:42AM THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT IN LIEU OF APPEARANCE OF SAID
09:08:47AM AGENDA ITEM.
09:08:48AM THAT SUFFICIENT?
09:08:50AM NO STAFF FOR 100.
09:08:52AM ITEM NUMBER 101.
09:08:54AM THIS IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE THIS TO JUNE 20.
09:08:58AM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:08:59AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:09:01AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:09:02AM ITEM 101 HAS BEEN CONTINUED.
09:09:04AM ITEM NUMBER 102, A REQUEST TO CONTINUE FOR JULY 18, 2024.
09:09:08AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:09:10AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:09:11AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:09:12AM ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 103, A REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO AUGUST
09:09:17AM 29.
09:09:17AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:09:19AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:09:21AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:09:21AM ITEM NUMBER 104.
09:09:23AM A REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO AUGUST 29.
09:09:27AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:09:28AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:09:30AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:09:31AM AYE.
09:09:32AM ITEM NUMBER 105, A REQUEST TO CONTINUE TO A LATER DATE TO BE
09:09:36AM DETERMINED.
09:09:36AM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN --
09:09:40AM >>CLERK: WE NEED A DATE.
09:09:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I CAN SPEAK TO IT IF YOU WANT.
09:09:44AM I WAS THE MAKER OF THE INITIAL MOTION.
09:09:46AM I HAVE SPOKEN WITH STAFF AND THEY ARE TRYING TO GET
09:09:52AM PAPERWORK AND MEET THE REQUIREMENT FOR FISCAL '24.
09:09:54AM IT IS TIME CONSUMING AND TRAFFIC BY THE TIME IT IS ALL DONE,
09:09:59AM IT WILL BE BASICALLY OCTOBER BY THE TIME ALL PAPERWORK AND
09:10:04AM EVERYTHING IS DONE.
09:10:04AM THEY WILL COME BACK IN MAYBE A MONTH WITH AN UPDATE TO IT.
09:10:07AM THAT IS WHY IT IS CONTINUED TO A FURTHER DATE AND NOT JUST
09:10:11AM KILLED FOR 24.
09:10:12AM BUT THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.
09:10:13AM IT IS MOVING ALONG.
09:10:14AM AND I AM SATISFIED WITH THE ANSWERS FROM STAFF.
09:10:17AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY DON'T WE DO A PLACEHOLDER.
09:10:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN DO THAT.
09:10:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WILL MAKE HER HAPPY.
09:10:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THIS COMMUNITY SUFFERED A SETBACK
09:10:27AM BECAUSE THE POOL WAS UNEXPECTEDLY CLOSED AND A LOT OF KIDS
09:10:30AM WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN PROGRAMS AT THE POOL
09:10:33AM THAT ARE NOT PARTICIPATING IN PROGRAMS.
09:10:35AM AND I THINK THERE IS AN URGENCY AND JUSTIFICATION TO MOVE
09:10:39AM THIS QUICKLY.
09:10:40AM I WILL REQUEST THAT WE BRING IT BACK WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO.
09:10:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY WON'T BE READY.
09:10:45AM THE PROCEDURES FOR THE NONPROFIT.
09:10:47AM THEY HAVE TO HAVE PAPERWORK AND THINGS WE REQUIRE.
09:10:50AM BECAUSE THEY -- THEY ARE NOT GOING --
09:10:53AM >>BILL CARLSON: JULY 18 WILL BE TOO LATE.
09:10:55AM UNLESS WE CAN ASK --
09:10:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UNLESS ASK ADMINISTRATION FOR EMERGENCY
09:11:00AM APPROPRIATION.
09:11:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE SHOULD CONCERNING THIS.
09:11:02AM ALL KIND OF ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE CITY BECAUSE DON'T HAVE
09:11:06AM ENOUGH AFTER-SCHOOL AND SUMMER PROGRAMS, AND WE CUT SOME
09:11:12AM UNEXPECTEDLY.
09:11:12AM THIS IS AN EMERGENCY.
09:11:13AM WE NEED FOR THE KIDS TO HAVE SOMETHING TO DO.
09:11:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE THE CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:11:17AM MAYBE DURING HIS REPORT -- JOHN, DURING YOUR REPORT SPEAK TO
09:11:22AM THE ISSUE.
09:11:22AM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
09:11:25AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL, PUBLIC.
09:11:27AM THE POOL PROGRAM THROUGH ADMINISTRATOR WYNN'S OFFICE HAS
09:11:33AM BEEN REDIRECTING FOLKS TO OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, AND I AM VERY
09:11:36AM FAMILIAR WITH THE WALKABILITY OF SULPHUR SPRINGS AND THE
09:11:39AM FOR, EVER THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SUMMER PROGRAMS.
09:11:42AM I WILL TALK TO THE STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION TO SEE WHAT WE
09:11:45AM CAN DO.
09:11:45AM HOW ABOUT WE COME BACK AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE 20th.
09:11:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: JUNE 20.
09:11:51AM NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
09:11:53AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE TO JUNE 20.
09:11:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND
09:11:57AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:11:59AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:12:00AM A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AND THE ADDENDUM.
09:12:04AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
09:12:06AM SECONDED BY COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
09:12:08AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:12:10AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:12:10AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:12:14AM ITEM NUMBER ONE.
09:12:16AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
09:12:27AM A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.
09:12:28AM HOW ARE YOU, MA'AM? CONGRATULATIONS.
09:12:31AM I MEAN THAT.
09:12:31AM WE ARE HERE TODAY FOR THE POLICE OFFICER OF THE MONTH.
09:12:34AM LIKE I ALWAYS SAY, TAMPA CITY COUNCIL DOES THIS TO REFLECT
09:12:39AM NOT ONLY OUR SUPPORT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT BUT THE COMMUNITY'S
09:12:41AM SUPPORT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT.
09:12:42AM WE LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHERE OUR FOLKS, OUR
09:12:45AM CONSTITUENTS THROUGHOUT ALL OF HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY INCLUDING
09:12:48AM CITY OF TAMPA STRONGLY SUPPORT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS
09:12:51AM INCLUDING OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
09:12:54AM WE HAVE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF CATE THAT WILL BE SPEAKING SOME
09:12:56AM OF THE WONDERFUL INDIVIDUAL AND THE GREAT WORK SHE HAS DONE
09:12:58AM PROTECTING US ALL.
09:12:59AM HERE YOU ARE.
09:13:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:13:04AM DEPUTY CHIEF RUTH KATE HERE REPRESENTING CHIEF LEE BERCAW.
09:13:10AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR TAKING THIS TIME TO
09:13:12AM HONOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
09:13:13AM THIS MONTH, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE DETECTIVE
09:13:20AM DANIELLE LARRY.
09:13:20AM I AM PROUD TO RECOGNIZE HER AS THE OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR
09:13:23AM JUNE 2024.
09:13:24AM IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT
09:13:27AM TWO OF HER CASES THAT LED TO HER SELECTION AS OFFICER OF THE
09:13:32AM MONTH.
09:13:32AM WHEN YOU HEAR THEM, YOU WILL AGREE THAT SHE GOES ABOVE AND
09:13:35AM BEYOND WHAT IS EXPECTED OF TAMPA'S FINEST.
09:13:38AM AND MARCH OF 2024, A COUPLE REPORTED THAT THEY WERE ROBBED
09:13:43AM OF MORE THAN $1 MILLION OF JEWELRY.
09:13:46AM THE CASE AND TO HAVE ALL THE ELEMENTS OUT OF A HOLLYWOOD
09:13:49AM MOVIE.
09:13:50AM A GLAMOROUS COUPLE IN TOWN FOR A JEWELRY SHOW.
09:13:55AM THEY PURCHASE $1 MILLION OF FINE JEWELS, AND THEY ARE
09:13:58AM ROBBED.
09:13:59AM DETECTIVE LARRY GOT RIGHT TO WORK.
09:14:02AM AT FIRST, IT WAS AS IF THE CRIMINALS JUST VANISHED, BUT SHE
09:14:07AM LEFT NO STONE UNTURNED AND WAS ABLE TO COME UP WITH A LEAD
09:14:10AM THAT LED HER TO AN INTERNATIONAL THEFT GROUP KNOWN AS SAT G,
09:14:17AM THE SOUTH PERSON THAT THEFT GROUP.
09:14:19AM DETECTIVE LARRY GOT 30 SUBPOENAS AND WORKED TIRELESSLY FOR
09:14:26AM ARREST WARRANTS FOR THE SUSPECTS.
09:14:28AM WORKED WITH OTHER STATE AND FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES
09:14:31AM AND ULTIMATELY ABLE TO IDENTIFY TWO OF THE INDIVIDUALS
09:14:33AM INVOLVED AND GET THEM ARRESTED FOR THIS CRIME.
09:14:35AM IN DOING SO, THE OTHER AGENCIES WERE ALSO ARABLE TO SOLVE
09:14:41AM SEVERAL OFFENSES RELATED TO THIS PATTERN AND IDENTIFY A
09:14:46AM NETWORK OF DANGEROUS INDIVIDUALS.
09:14:47AM THIS INVESTIGATION ACTUALLY CONTINUES TODAY.
09:14:49AM AND OTHER AGENCIES ARE USING THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY
09:14:54AM DETECTIVE LARRY TO ARREST THESE BAD GUYS AND STOP THESE
09:14:58AM ROBBERIES.
09:14:58AM AT THE SAME TIME, DETECTIVE LARRY WAS ALSO ASSIGNED TO CASE
09:15:03AM INVOLVING CONSTRUCTION 70s, WHERE VICTIMS SUFFERED LOSSES
09:15:08AM EXCEEDING MORE THAN $50,000.
09:15:09AM DETECTIVE LARRY GOT RIGHT TO WORK ON THIS CASE AND USED
09:15:13AM INVESTIGATIVE TECHNIQUES AND DEPARTMENTAL DATABASES TO HELP
09:15:17AM DEVELOP HER LEADS.
09:15:18AM SHE WAS ABLE TO TRACK SOME OF THE STOLEN EQUIPMENT WHICH LED
09:15:21AM HER TO PASCO COUNTY.
09:15:23AM SHE PARTNERED WITH THE PASCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND WAS ABLE
09:15:26AM TO ULTIMATELY ABLE TO I.D. THESE SUSPECTS AND MAKE ARRESTS
09:15:30AM IN HER CASE, RECOVERING STOLEN PROPERTY AND RECEIVED ASSETS
09:15:34AM INCLUDING CARS AND OTHER ITEMS USED TO COMMIT THESE CRIMES.
09:15:38AM AGAIN, SHE SHARED LEADS WITH OTHER AGENCY TO HELP THEM SOLVE
09:15:43AM THEIR CASES TOO.
09:15:45AM DUE TO THE DETECTIVE'S TENACITY TO STOP PROLIFIC OFFENDERS
09:15:50AM AND BRING CLOSURE FOR OUR VICTIMS.
09:15:52AM HER PROFESSIONALISM WORKING WITH OTHER AGENCIES IS AN ASSET
09:15:55AM TO THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT AS SHE HELPED THOSE AGENCIES
09:15:57AM SOLVE THEIR CRIMES AND MAKE THEIR COMMUNITIES BETTER AND
09:16:00AM SAFER TOGETHER TOO.
09:16:02AM IT IS FOR THESE REASONS SHE WAS NOMINATED FOR OFFICER OF THE
09:16:06AM MONTH.
09:16:06AM COUNCILMEMBERS, IT IS MY GREAT HONOR TO PRESENT TO YOU
09:16:10AM DETECTIVE DANIELLE LARI N, TPD'S OFFICER OF THE MONTH FOR
09:16:16AM JUNE 2024.
09:16:16AM [APPLAUSE]
09:16:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: BEFORE WE FORMALLY HONOR YOU AND HAVE YOU
09:16:24AM SPEAK, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HERE TO SHOW THEIR GREAT
09:16:28AM APPRECIATION FOR YOUR WORK.
09:16:29AM >> JOHN MILLER, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE TAMPA PBA.
09:16:33AM ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA POLICE UNION, A JOB WELL-DONE AND
09:16:37AM CONTINUED SUCCESS AND PRESENT THIS PLAQUE FOR YOU.
09:16:40AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:16:41AM >> GOOD MORNING, MARY DYLAN, ON BEHALF OF THE STRAZ CENTER
09:16:52AM OF THE PERFORMING ARTS.
09:16:53AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, AND I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE
09:16:56AM TICKETS FOR THE NEXT SEASON OF BROADWAY.
09:16:58AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:16:59AM THANK YOU.
09:17:00AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:17:03AM JOE LATEKI FOR TAMPA THEATRE.
09:17:07AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
09:17:10AM COME SEE US AT TAMPA THEATRE AND A MEMBERSHIP FOR YOU AND
09:17:13AM YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO COME SEE US NEXT YEAR.
09:17:16AM >> LEO GARY WITH BILL CURRIE FORD.
09:17:20AM CONGRATULATIONS, DANIELLE.
09:17:22AM WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO HERE IN THE CITY OF
09:17:24AM TAMPA.
09:17:24AM I WANT TO SAY I RESPECT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS THAT
09:17:27AM PUT ON THAT UNIFORM AND MAKE THOSE SACRIFICES.
09:17:30AM I TRULY APPRECIATE IT.
09:17:31AM ON BEHALF OF BILL CURRIE FORD, A $100 GIFT CARD AND A GOODY.
09:17:39AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:17:40AM I APPRECIATE IT.
09:17:41AM >> CONGRATULATIONS.
09:17:43AM >> GOOD MORNING, MARY BAILEY AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF ZOO
09:17:46AM TAMPA. THE CITIZENS WHO SERVE ON THE BOARD THERE HAVE
09:17:49AM PURCHASED YOU AN ANNUAL MEMBERSHIP TO THE ZOO FOR YOUR
09:17:51AM FAMILY.
09:17:52AM I HOPE YOU ENJOY IT IN GOOD HEALTH.
09:17:54AM I REALLY LOVE YOUR STORY.
09:17:55AM SOUNDS LIKE YOU WORK VERY SMART, COLLABORATIVELY, DILIGENT,
09:18:00AM ALL QUALITIES I GREATLY ADMIRE AND WILL TAKE YOU FAR IN
09:18:04AM LIFE, I KNOW.
09:18:04AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO
09:18:07AM SERVES.
09:18:07AM YOU ALL ARE ROCK STARS IN MY BOOK AND CONGRATULATIONS.
09:18:13AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:18:14AM >> MIKE McARTHUR, STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
09:18:20AM UNFORTUNATELY WE HAD A FEW UNITS STOLEN RECENTLY.
09:18:24AM THE NEXT TIME I HAVE A TRUCK STOLEN, I KNOW WHO I AM
09:18:29AM CALLING.
09:18:29AM [LAUGHTER]
09:18:29AM FROM STEPP'S TOWING, A GIFT CARD AND ENJOY SOME DINNER.
09:18:36AM >> GOOD MORNING, DETECTIVE LARRY.
09:18:39AM I'M HERE WITH THE GONZMART FAMILY.
09:18:44AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO AND COMMITTED ON BEHALF
09:18:47AM OF TAMPA.
09:18:48AM WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:18:52AM GOODY GOODY, ENJOY PAELLA AT THE COLUMBIA.
09:18:57AM ENJOY YOURSELF.
09:18:59AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:19:00AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
09:19:01AM BRIAN FORD WITH THE TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS.
09:19:03AM DETECTIVE LARRY, CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU.
09:19:07AM THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR THE SACRIFICE AND
09:19:10AM EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO EVERY DAY.
09:19:12AM REMARKABLE STORY.
09:19:13AM A LITTLE TRADITION AT THE ONE BUCCANEER PLACE.
09:19:16AM EVERYBODY THAT GOES OVER AND ABOVE GETS A GAME BALL.
09:19:19AM ON BEHALF OF THE GLAZER FAMILY AND OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION,
09:19:22AM CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU.
09:19:24AM APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
09:19:28AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:19:29AM I CAN'T EVEN THINK OF A MILLION DOLLARS IN JEWELRY.
09:19:33AM >> I STILL CAN'T.
09:19:35AM >> CAN'T EQUATE TO THAT.
09:19:37AM I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A SECOND AND THANK ALL OF THE MEN AND
09:19:40AM WOMEN WHO PARTICIPATED AND REMEMBER THEM FOR THE D-DAY AND
09:19:43AM THE INVASION OF NORMANDY.
09:19:45AM I THINK THAT IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING.
09:19:46AM THEY WERE FIRST RESPONDERS AS YOU ARE FIRST RESPONDERS.
09:19:50AM I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR
09:19:53AM SERVICE.
09:19:53AM ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO, PROVIDE YOU WITH A GIFT
09:19:58AM CERTIFICATE AND ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE, BREAKFAST, LUNCH
09:20:01AM OR DINNER.
09:20:02AM >> THANK YOU.
09:20:03AM >> ON BEHALF OF BELLA BRAVO, PROVIDING YOU A GIFT
09:20:08AM CERTIFICATE.
09:20:09AM MEAT MARKET IN OLD HYDE PARK.
09:20:11AM GO AND ENJOY YOURSELF OVER THERE.
09:20:13AM ON BEHALF OF THE CICCIO RESTAURANT GROUP, BREAKFAST, LUNCH
09:20:19AM AND DINNER.
09:20:20AM YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO, AND I KNOW THE DEPUTY CHIEF WANTS
09:20:24AM TO GO WITH YOU.
09:20:25AM [LAUGHTER]
09:20:26AM ANYWAY, HERE ARE YOUR GIFT CERTIFICATES.
09:20:29AM PLEASE TAKE THEM WITH YOU.
09:20:31AM SOME OF THE LETTERS FOR THE JOY OF YOUR ENTERTAINMENT.
09:20:35AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:20:36AM >> THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT.
09:20:37AM THANK YOU.
09:20:38AM [ PPLAUSE]
09:20:44AM >> SORRY, THERE IT IS.
09:20:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: ON BEHALF OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND CITY
09:20:50AM COUNCIL, OUR HONOR TO GIVE THIS CITY COUNCIL COMMENDATION TO
09:20:53AM YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
09:20:55AM THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:20:56AM >> THANK YOU.
09:20:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: GOD BLESS YOU.
09:20:58AM IF YOU WANT TO SAY --
09:21:01AM [APPLAUSE]
09:21:02AM >> I WILL KEEP IT SHORT.
09:21:02AM COUPLE OF WORDS.
09:21:03AM I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
09:21:06AM AN HONOR TO STAND BEFORE YOU AND ACCEPT THIS AWARD.
09:21:08AM I WANT TO THANK THE CHIEFS AND STAFF OF THE TAMPA POLICE
09:21:12AM DEPARTMENT FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE AND WORK FOR YOU GUYS.
09:21:14AM TRULY AN HONOR TO WORK AS A -- AS A DETECTIVE.
09:21:18AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK -- AS WELL AS THE PBA FOR BEING HERE
09:21:24AM AND SUPPORTING US.
09:21:25AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE CIVILIANS AND BUSINESSES
09:21:28AM REPRESENTED HERE TODAY AND YOUR UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF LAW
09:21:32AM ENFORCEMENT.
09:21:32AM MEANS MORE TO US THAN WE COULD TELL YOU.
09:21:34AM MAKE SURE THAT IS COMING FROM EVERY OFFICER.
09:21:36AM THANK YOU.
09:21:37AM AND THEN I ALSO WANT TO SAY -- THANK MY SERGEANT CORPORAL
09:21:42AM AND MEMBERS OF THE SQUAD HELPED ME OUT OVER THE NEXT COUPLE
09:21:46AM OF MONTHS IN MY POSITION AS DETECTIVE.
09:21:47AM THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING ME AND HELPING ME ALONG THE WAY.
09:21:51AM ALSO SPECIAL THANKS TO OFFICER SELIGMAN MY PARTNER WORKING
09:21:57AM WITH SAT G CASE.
09:21:58AM WITHOUT HIM, I WOULDN'T BE STANDING HERE.
09:22:00AM THANK MY HUSBAND AND MY FAMILY FOR THEIR UNCONDITIONAL LOVE
09:22:04AM AND SUPPORT FOR ALLOWING ME TO TAKE HOURS AWAY FROM FAMILY
09:22:07AM TIME AND MAKING SURE THESE CRIMINALS WERE CAUGHT SO OTHER
09:22:10AM FAMILIES WEREN'T SUFFERING AS VICTIMS.
09:22:12AM AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I AM TRULY HONORED AND HUMBLED TO
09:22:16AM RECEIVE THIS RECOGNITION.
09:22:17AM THANK YOU.
09:22:17AM THANK YOU.
09:22:17AM [APPLAUSE]
09:22:27AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:22:29AM ALMOST EVERY DAY, I GET THANKS WHICH I TRY TO PASS ON TO THE
09:22:34AM CHIEF FOR WHAT YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES ARE DOING, FOR EVERY
09:22:38AM CRITICISM WE GET FOR A CRIME THAT HAPPENS, THERE IS SO MANY
09:22:41AM THANKS AND ACCOLADES FROM THE COMMUNITY.
09:22:43AM AND YOU DESERVE THAT AND MORE FOR THE HARD WORK YOU ARE
09:22:46AM DOING.
09:22:47AM I HOPE YOU ARE KEEPING NOTES BECAUSE SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE
09:22:50AM WRITING A BOOK OR A MOVIE WITH SOME OF THE EXPERIENCES YOU
09:22:53AM HAVE.
09:22:53AM THANK YOU.
09:22:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
09:22:55AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CONGRATULATION, GIRL POWER.
09:22:57AM >> THANK YOU.
09:22:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO, OFFICER, FOR
09:23:02AM THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:23:02AM THAT IS WHY TAMPA IS UNDER THE NATIONAL RATE OF CRIME IN THE
09:23:07AM WHOLE COUNTRY IS.
09:23:08AM YOU KNOW COLOMBO, OLD DETECTIVE SERVED MANY --
09:23:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I JUST SAID GIRL POWER.
09:23:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I MEAN, I CAN'T DO BOTH AT ONE TIME,
09:23:22AM YOUNG LADY.
09:23:23AM COLOMBO SERVED MANY CRIMES ON TV IN 15 YEARS.
09:23:30AM YOU SERVED MORE IN 15 MINUTES.
09:23:33AM WHAT YOU HAVE DONE IS THE POLICE OFFICERS UNDER THE GUIDANCE
09:23:36AM OF BEING HERE FOR MANY YEARS AND SOME FOR NOT TOO MANY YEARS
09:23:40AM HAVE GOTTEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SOLVE CRIMINALS SO THEY STAY
09:23:44AM SOMEWHERE ELSE, NOT IN TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND ARE IN JAIL.
09:23:48AM THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM THE CHIEF
09:23:50AM ON DOWN FOR WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
09:23:53AM SOMETIMES WE FORGET WHAT YOU DO.
09:23:55AM AND SOMETIMES WE EVEN BARK AT YOU.
09:23:58AM GOT ME A SPEEDING TICKET.
09:24:00AM YOU DESERVED A SPEEDING TICKET.
09:24:04AM FROM THERE ON YOU DO WHAT YOU ARE TRAINED TO DO AND GOD
09:24:07AM BLESS YOU TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
09:24:09AM >> THANK YOU.
09:24:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BLUE POWER.
09:24:12AM HONESTLY, THANK YOU FOR -- NOT JUST YOU REPRESENTING YOUR
09:24:16AM BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN THE TAMPA PD AND PBA, EVERYBODY
09:24:22AM STANDING BEHIND YOU AND EVERYBODY THAT YOU WORK WITH AND
09:24:24AM EVERYBODY THAT IS WORKING TODAY AND NOT IN CITY HALL
09:24:27AM CHAMBERS FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO KEEP THE CITY OF COMPANY
09:24:35AM SAFE.
09:24:35AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS.
09:24:36AM I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.
09:24:38AM THANK YOU
09:24:39AM [APPLAUSE]
09:24:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU MENTIONED JEWELRY.
09:24:51AM AND BEING I GREW UP IN THE JEWELRY BUSINESS, A TEAM OF FOLKS
09:24:59AM FROM OUT OF TOWN TRIED TO BURGLARIZE MY DAD'S SHOP AND TPD
09:25:05AM WITH AN UNDERCOVER OPERATION STOPPED HIM IN THE ACT.
09:25:07AM WHEN TPD SHOWED UP, HE HAD A HEART ATTACK.
09:25:11AM HE WAS SO SCARED.
09:25:13AM TRIED TO BREAK IN THE ROOF.
09:25:15AM MY DAD WAS HELD AT GUNPOINT IN 1988 ROBBED AT THE STORE, TPD
09:25:21AM CAUGHT TWO OF THE SUSPECTS WITHIN TEN MINUTES AND THE LAST
09:25:24AM SUSPECT A COUPLE DAYS LATER.
09:25:26AM WHEN HE GOT HELD AT GUNPOINT AGAIN, TEN YEARS AFTER
09:25:31AM THAT, TPD SAME THING.
09:25:32AM ON BEHALF OF MY FAMILY WE APPRECIATE TPD SAVED US AND HELPED
09:25:37AM US, BUT YOU HELP THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND WE APPRECIATE WHEN
09:25:43AM YOU PUT ON THAT UNIFORM AND YOU MAKE THE SACRIFICE EVERY DAY
09:25:47AM AND THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO.
09:25:48AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:25:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RUTH, I LOVE YOUR BADGE.
09:25:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
09:25:54AM WE WILL TAKE A MOMENT AS THE ROOM CLEARS OUT.
09:26:07AM NEXT UP, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN IS GOING TO HONOR OUR ATU
09:26:13AM EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH.
09:26:14AM AND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WILL GO DOWN TO THE LECTERN TO
09:26:17AM RECOGNIZE CODE ENFORCEMENT.
09:26:20AM MANISCALCO GO AHEAD, SIR.
09:27:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.
09:27:12AM I WANT TO SAY ON A PERSONAL POINT OF PRIVILEGE, THANK YOU
09:27:17AM FOR THE TIE.
09:27:18AM I WORK TODAY BECAUSE OF D-DAY.
09:27:21AM IF YOU ARE LISTENING, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:27:22AM APPRECIATE IT.
09:27:23AM I'M HERE TODAY -- ONE OF MY FAVORITE DAYS ELECTED AS COUNCIL
09:27:27AM BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW MY LABOR BACKGROUND AND THEY KNOW HOW
09:27:30AM STRONGLY I FEEL OF THE WORKING MEN AND WOMEN THAT KEEP OUR
09:27:33AM CITY, OUR STATE, OUR GOVERNMENT AND THE UNITED STATES
09:27:36AM RUNNING.
09:27:37AM AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DAYS THAT WE CAN HONOR THE PEOPLE
09:27:41AM THAT ACTUALLY MAKE EVERYTHING HAPPEN.
09:27:43AM AND BETWEEN THE TAMPA POLICE, THE FIRE FIGHTERS AND THE MEN
09:27:48AM AND WOMEN THAT ARE STANDING BEHIND ME THAT REPRESENT ATU, A
09:27:51AM GREAT DAY FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE
09:27:54AM THAT.
09:27:54AM I'M HERE TODAY WITH PRESIDENT OF ATU.
09:27:57AM AND WE ARE GOING TO HONOR ONE OF THEIR STAFF.
09:28:00AM I AM GOING TO HAND IT OFF TO THEM TO KICK IT OFF.
09:28:07AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
09:28:09AM GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIRMAN, COUNCIL AND CITY OF TAMPA.
09:28:12AM I AM STEVE, PRESIDENT OF THE AMALGAMATED TRANSIT UNION AND
09:28:19AM WE KEEP THE CITY OF TAMPA RUNNING AND MORE THAN HAPPY TO
09:28:22AM INTRODUCE YOU TO THE ATU EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, MR. ISMAEL
09:28:28AM GONZALEZ.
09:28:28AM [APPLAUSE]
09:28:33AM I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF THIS MORNING WITH A LET FROM THE
09:28:36AM MAYOR IF YOU DON'T MIND.
09:28:39AM DEAR ISMAEL, CONGRATULATIONS OF SELECTED AS THE AMALGAMATED
09:28:49AM EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH FOR STRONG WORK ETHIC, ENTHUSIASM AND
09:28:53AM GOING I DON'T ABOVE AND BEYOND AS CERTIFIED CODE ENFORCEMENT
09:28:57AM OFFICER.
09:28:57AM YOU HAVE DEDICATED A STRONG COMMITMENT SINCE YOUR HIRE DATE
09:29:01AM OF JUNE 002.
09:29:05AM AS A CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, YOU HAVE ATTENTION TO DETAIL,
09:29:10AM MULTITASKING SKILLS, TIMELINESS AND INSTRUMENTAL IN
09:29:15AM THE ACELA FOCUS GROUP OF YOUR DIVISION, ENSURING THAT ANY
09:29:20AM DIVISIONS MADE HAVE COMMUNICATED TO THE TEAM.
09:29:22AM YOUR CONCERN FOR OTHERS AND THEIR SAFETY IS COMMENDABLE AND
09:29:26AM EVIDENCE WITH ASSISTING WITH AN INCIDENT WHERE A FIRE HAD
09:29:31AM BEEN STARTED.
09:29:31AM SET BY CHILDREN PLAYING WITH FIREWORKS.
09:29:34AM YOU HAVE EARNED THE RESPECT OF YOUR SUPERIORS, PEERS AND
09:29:39AM COMMUNITY YOU ARE AN ASSET AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE CITY
09:29:51AM DEPARTMENT AND PROFICIENCY AND OUTSTANDING POSITIVE ATTITUDE
09:29:55AM MAKE YOU HIGHLY DISTURBING OF THIS RECOGNITION.
09:29:58AM YOU ARE ADMIRED, WELL-RESPECTED AND SET A SHINING EXAMPLE
09:30:02AM FOR OTHERS TO FOLLOW.
09:30:04AM PEOPLE LIKE YOU, ISMAEL MAKE ME PROUD TO SERVE AS MAYOR.
09:30:10AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.
09:30:12AM SINCERELY, MAYOR JANE CASTOR.
09:30:12AM [APPLAUSE]
09:30:20AM WHILE TRAVELING ON WEST ALFRED STREET, INSPECTOR GONZALEZ
09:30:23AM NOTICED TOYS AND WENT TO 205 WEST ALFRED STREET, AND HE
09:30:27AM STOPPED TO INVESTIGATE.
09:30:28AM WHEN HE LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY, HE OBSERVED A PALM TREE ON
09:30:31AM FIRE AT THE REAR OF SAID ADDRESS.
09:30:33AM HE CONTACTED THE TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
09:30:36AM WHILE ON THE PHONE, A GENTLEMAN CAME RUNNING TO THE HOUSE
09:30:39AM WITH THE WATER HOSE ATTEMPTING TO EXTINGUISH THE FIRE.
09:30:42AM UNFORTUNATELY, THE FLAMES HAVE ALREADY REACHED THE SHED AT
09:30:46AM THE REAR OF 205 WEST ALFRED STREET.
09:30:49AM HE OBSERVED SMOKE COMING FROM THE INSIDE OF THE SHED.
09:30:53AM HE STAYED ON-SITE UNTIL TAMPA FIRE AND RESCUE ARRIVED TO
09:30:57AM EXTINGUISH THE FIRE.
09:30:58AM THE TOYS IN THE STREET BECAUSE CHILDREN WERE PLAYING IN THE
09:31:01AM DRIVEWAY WITH FIREWORKS.
09:31:03AM WHILE SHOOTING OFF THE FIREWORKS, THEY ACCIDENTALLY SET THE
09:31:07AM PALM TREE ON FIRE.
09:31:08AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, MR. RICHARD COLBERT, WAS THANKFUL
09:31:14AM FOR MR. GONZALEZ AND HIS IMMEDIATE ACTION.
09:31:17AM AND WE ARE THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU TO DO KEEP THE CITY OF
09:31:20AM TAMPA RUNNING.
09:31:20AM ON BEHALF OF ATU 1464, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS
09:31:27AM AWARD.
09:31:27AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:31:37AM I'M SORRY, OCEA WYNN, ADMINISTRATOR.
09:31:47AM WE WOULD LIKE FOR TO YOU SAY A FEW WORDS.
09:31:49AM >>OCEA WYNN: YES, OCEA WYNN, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY
09:31:53AM AFFAIRS.
09:31:53AM AN HONOR FOR ME TO STAND BEFORE YOU TO HAVE SUCH AN
09:31:57AM OUTSTANDING STAFF MEMBER TEAM MEMBER.
09:31:59AM YOU KNOW, ISMAEL, ONE THING TO COME TO WORK EVERY DAY.
09:32:04AM ANOTHER THING SHOWING UP WHEN YOU COME AND BEING PRESENT.
09:32:07AM BECAUSE YOU SHOWED UP AND WERE PRESENT, YOU WERE ABLE TO
09:32:11AM MITIGATE WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A HORRIFIC SITUATION.
09:32:15AM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:32:17AM THANK YOU FOR ALL MY TEAM MEMBERS FOR WHAT YOU DO.
09:32:19AM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU.
09:32:22AM YOU MAKE THE CITY LOOK GOOD.
09:32:23AM YOU MAKE ME LOOK BETTER AT WHAT YOU DO.
09:32:26AM AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
09:32:27AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:32:29AM >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
09:32:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T KNOW.
09:32:36AM AFTER THAT GREAT ATU AWARD, THIS IS LOOKING PRETTY CHINSY
09:32:41AM NOW.
09:32:42AM ON BEHALF OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL, I WANT TO PRESENT WITH
09:32:45AM YOU A COMMENDATION FOR A JOB WELL-DONE.
09:32:47AM ONE OF MY FAVORITE DAYS TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE EMPLOYEES
09:32:51AM LIKE YOU.
09:32:52AM AND THE CITY OF TAMPA OWES YOU ALL A GREAT DEAL OF GRATITUDE
09:32:57AM FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO EVERY DAY.
09:32:59AM THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.
09:33:00AM APPRECIATE IT.
09:33:01AM [APPLAUSE]
09:33:08AM I THINK THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD
09:33:11AM LIKE TO SAY HELLO TO YOU.
09:33:13AM >> HELLO, INSPECTOR GONZALEZ.
09:33:15AM I AM GRACE GONZALEZ.
09:33:16AM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE GONZMART FAMILY.
09:33:21AM AND ON BEHALF OF THE ZOO --
09:33:22AM THE ZOO HAD TO RUN OFF AND DO EXCITING ANIMAL THINGS.
09:33:26AM FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY TO ENJOY TIME AT ZOO TAMPA.
09:33:31AM AND FROM GONZMART AND THE FAMILY OF RESTAURANTS AND
09:33:34AM EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO AND HOW GRATEFUL, ENJOY YOURSELF AT
09:33:39AM GOODY GOODY, AND ANY OF OUR RESTAURANTS AROUND CITY OF TAMPA
09:33:44AM AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
09:33:45AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:33:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A FELLOW COUNCILWOMAN WHO SITS NEXT TO ME
09:33:51AM WHO WANTS TO SEE THE ANIMALS.
09:33:53AM LOVES THESE THINGS.
09:33:54AM >> AN OTTER?
09:33:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK IT IS AN OTTER.
09:33:59AM LYNN HURTAK LOVE THESE STUFFED ANIMALS.
09:34:03AM >> MARY DYLAN REPRESENTING THE STRAZ PERFORMING ARTS.
09:34:06AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
09:34:07AM WE HAVE TICKETS FOR YOU WHEN THE SEASON STARTS IN THE FALL
09:34:11AM OF THE STRAZ CENTER FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS AND BEVERAGE
09:34:14AM TICKETS AS WELL.
09:34:16AM ENJOY.
09:34:17AM >> I AM SHANA NICHOLS.
09:34:20AM I'M HERE REPRESENTING TAMPA THEATRE.
09:34:22AM I WANT TO PRESENT YOU THIS GUEST MEMBERSHIP FOR YOU AND YOUR
09:34:26AM FAMILY.
09:34:26AM COME SEE ONE OF OUR SUMMER CLASSICS ON THE BIG SCREEN.
09:34:29AM WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU AT THE MOVIES.
09:34:32AM THANK YOU.
09:34:33AM [APPLAUSE]
09:34:39AM >> STEPP'S TOWING SERVICE.
09:34:41AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR OUR CITY.
09:34:43AM PEOPLE LIKE TO YOU MAKE OUR CITY GREAT.
09:34:45AM ON BEHALF OF TODD STEPP'S OF STEPP'S TOWING HERE IS A GIFT
09:34:53AM CARD.
09:34:53AM THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
09:34:53AM [APPLAUSE]
09:34:56AM >> GOOD MORNING, SIR.
09:34:57AM MR. GONZALEZ, COUNCIL MEMBER, BOARD, BRIAN FORD OF THE
09:35:01AM BUCCANEERS.
09:35:02AM WHAT AN AMAZING STORY.
09:35:03AM AND JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU AND THE FAMILY FOR THE SACRIFICE
09:35:06AM AND ALL YOU DO BEHIND THE SCENES.
09:35:08AM I AM A BEHIND-THE-SCENES GUY AT ONE BUC.
09:35:12AM I CAN RELATE.
09:35:13AM WHAT YOU DO IS APPRECIATED AND ON BEHALF THE GLAZER FAMILY
09:35:17AM AND ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, PRESENT YOU THIS GAME BALL.
09:35:20AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE AND SACRIFICE AND ALL
09:35:24AM YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:35:25AM >> GOOD MORNING.
09:35:35AM STEVE MICHELINI.
09:35:37AM >> YES, SIR, I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
09:35:39AM >> I HOPE IT IS NOT IN A BAD WAY.
09:35:41AM >> WELL -- NO.
09:35:43AM [LAUGHTER]
09:35:46AM ON BEHALF OF DAILY EATS, PROVIDING YOU WITH A GIFT
09:35:49AM CERTIFICATE TO ENJOY YOURSELF.
09:35:51AM ON BEHALF OF JACKSON'S BISTRO, GO OVER THERE AND ENJOY
09:35:57AM YOURSELF.
09:35:57AM BELLA BRAVA WITH MIDTOWN.
09:36:00AM ENJOY YOURSELF THERE.
09:36:01AM YUMMY HOUSE CHINA BISTRO.
09:36:04AM ENJOY YOURSELF THERE AND MEAT MARKET AT OLD HYDE PARK
09:36:07AM VILLAGE.
09:36:08AM I HAVE IT ON THE HIGHEST AUTHORITY THAT SUSIE AND BJ
09:36:14AM SLAYTON.
09:36:14AM THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN ONE OF THESE LUNCHEONS.
09:36:17AM THEY ALREADY LINED UP.
09:36:18AM GRABBED ME WHEN I WALKED BY AND SAID --
09:36:21AM >> NO PROBLEM.
09:36:21AM I WILL CALL THEM UP.
09:36:23AM >> ANYWAY, CONGRATULATIONS.
09:36:25AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.
09:36:26AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU TO DO SUPPORT THE CITY.
09:36:28AM THANK YOU.
09:36:29AM [APPLAUSE]
09:36:37AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:36:38AM AGAIN, I APPRECIATE IT AND OUR COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:36:41AM SOMEBODY MAY WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.
09:36:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
09:36:44AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:36:45AM WHAT AN INCREDIBLE STORY.
09:36:47AM A FEW YEARS AGO BEFORE I GOT ON COUNCIL, A HISTORIC HOME
09:36:53AM BEHIND ME WAS ON FIRE, AND I CALLED 911 AND I GRABBED A FIRE
09:36:56AM EXTINGUISHER AN ALMOST DID NOTHING AND GRABBED ANOTHER ONE
09:37:00AM AND DID NOTHING.
09:37:01AM AND THE FIRE HOSE, AND INCREDIBLE RESPECT FOR FIRE FIGHTERS
09:37:06AM AND THOSE WHO PROTECT CHILDREN AROUND BUILDINGS.
09:37:08AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID TO SAVE THOSE KIDS AND THE HOMES.
09:37:11AM THANK YOU.
09:37:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
09:37:16AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: KUDOS FOR YOU.
09:37:19AM REQUIRES YOU BEING ALERT AND MAY BE ATTENTION TO THE
09:37:22AM UNEXPECTED AND I SO MUCH APPRECIATE IT.
09:37:24AM BECAUSE SOMETIMES THESE KIDS ARE -- WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR
09:37:29AM THEM BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IT TAKES AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU
09:37:32AM HAVE DONE.
09:37:32AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:37:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:37:39AM THANK YOU FOR YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM.
09:37:42AM PEOPLE DON'T SEE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS.
09:37:44AM BUT BASICALLY HEROES LIKE YOU THAT GO OUT -- YOU GO THE
09:37:48AM EXTRA MILE AND THEN SOME.
09:37:49AM WE APPRECIATE YOU VERY, VERY MUCH SIR.
09:37:52AM CONGRATULATIONS
09:37:56AM [APPLAUSE]
09:37:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CONGRATULATIONS.
09:37:58AM [APPLAUSE]
09:38:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:38:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN IS HERE ALSO.
09:38:19AM THIS IS NATIONAL CODE ENFORCEMENT WEEK.
09:38:21AM ALL OF THESE GOOD FOLKS ARE HERE ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.
09:38:25AM AN HONOR TO HONOR CODE ENFORCEMENT WEEK.
09:38:28AM TAMPA CITY COUNCIL RECOGNIZES THE TIRELESS EFFORT OF EACH
09:38:33AM CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO ENSURE THE HEALTH, WELFARE AND
09:38:36AM SAFETY OF THE CITY OF TAMPA MAINTAIN THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE
09:38:39AM STANDARDS; HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE CODE ENFORCEMENT
09:38:42AM OFFICER, IT IS NOT EASY.
09:38:44AM FIRST OF ALL, YOU ARE GOING TO TELL SOMEBODY THAT THEY HAVE
09:38:47AM DONE SOMETHING INCORRECT, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT FIXED.
09:38:50AM SECOND OF ALL, NOW BY LAW, WE HAVE TO TELL WHOEVER WANTS TO
09:38:54AM KNOW WHO TURNED THEM IN.
09:38:56AM THAT ALONG WITH TEN ZILLION GUNS ON THE STREET.
09:39:01AM WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY BELONG TO AND HOW IT GOT THERE
09:39:06AM DOESN'T MAKE FOR A NICE EVENING.
09:39:07AM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE FACED WITH AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
09:39:09AM TO CITY COUNCIL, CITY OF TAMPA, AND EVERYBODY IN THE CITY
09:39:15AM UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU GO THROUGH, BUT SOMETIMES WE FORGET
09:39:18AM TO SAY THANK YOU.
09:39:19AM SO ALL OF US IN THIS ROOM AND CITY ARE SAYING THANK YOU FOR
09:39:22AM EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU THAT THIS PLAQUE BELONGS, IN
09:39:25AM ESSENCE, TO EVERYBODY IN YOUR DEPARTMENT.
09:39:28AM CONGRATULATIONS FOR WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS AND GOD
09:39:32AM BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU WHAT YOU DO.
09:39:34AM IT IS NOT EASY TO TELL SOMEBODY, I'M HERE TO HELP YOU.
09:39:37AM THERE IS WHERE WE ARE.
09:39:39AM AND YOU ARE THERE TO TRY TO HELP THEM.
09:39:42AM COUNCIL.
09:39:42AM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
09:39:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
09:39:51AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE LEADER OF ATU AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES
09:39:54AM THAT WORK WITH YOU, UNDER YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND SO FORTH
09:39:57AM AND SO ON.
09:39:57AM THE CITY OF TAMPA IS WHAT IT IS BECAUSE OF EVERYONE WHO
09:40:00AM LIVES IN THE CITY.
09:40:01AM NOT JUST YOUR NEIGHBOR.
09:40:02AM EVERYBODY.
09:40:02AM THANK YOU ALL FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART WHAT YOU DO ON A
09:40:07AM DAILY BASIS
09:40:07AM [APPLAUSE]
09:40:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:40:20AM WE WILL TAKE A FEW MOMENTS FOR THE ROOM TO CLEAR OUT AND
09:40:24AM BRING MORE PEOPLE IN. >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE WAITING FOR
09:42:02AM A FEW MORE PEOPLE TO COME IN.
09:42:03AM OKAY?
09:42:17AM ALL RIGHT.
09:42:17AM MISS FOXX-KNOWLES.
09:42:21AM A 10:00 TIME CERTAIN AND GO TO ITEMS 4 AND 5 IF YOU BEGIN
09:42:31AM WITH ITEM NUMBER.
09:42:36AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL AND EVERYONE.
09:42:38AM I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE THE CANDIDATES OR APPLICANTS FOR THE
09:42:48AM BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
09:42:50AM MR. RICHARD LEROY CAHILL, JR.
09:42:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING, SIR.
09:42:58AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
09:42:59AM >> RICHARD LEROY CAHILL JR.
09:43:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD SIR.
09:43:07AM >> HOW ARE YOU TODAY?
09:43:08AM >> GREAT.
09:43:10AM >> AS AN ARCHITECTURE ENTHUSIAST WITH OVER 30 YEARS OF
09:43:15AM BUILDING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, I HAVE A PROFOUND
09:43:19AM APPRECIATION FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL HERITAGE AND POTENTIAL
09:43:22AM FOR DEVELOPMENT.
09:43:22AM WITH THE DIVERSE PORTFOLIO OF DIFFERENT PROJECT TYPES
09:43:26AM INCLUDING RENOVATION HISTORICAL BUILDING, I AM EAGER TO
09:43:31AM BRING MY EXPERTISE TO THE CITY OF TAMPA BARRIO COMMISSION.
09:43:35AM I WANT TO ENSURE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT IN TAMPA HARMONIZE
09:43:40AM WITH THE EXISTING ARCHITECTURAL LANDSCAPE AND MEETING THE
09:43:44AM NEEDS OF OUR GROWING COMMUNITY.
09:43:45AM GIVEN THE CITY'S RAPID EXPANSION, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT NEW
09:43:49AM CONSTRUCTION NOT ONLY BLEND SEAMLESSLY WITH THEIR
09:43:52AM SURROUNDINGS BUT ALSO ENHANCE THE OVERALL AESTHETIC AND
09:43:55AM FUNCTIONALITY OF OUR URBAN ENVIRONMENT.
09:43:57AM WITH MY EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE OF BUILDING WITHIN TAMPA'S
09:44:01AM DIVERSE NEIGHBORHOODS, I AM WELL-EQUIPPED TO ADVOCATE FOR
09:44:05AM THE PROJECTS IN BOTH FORM AND FUNCTION.
09:44:08AM I AM DEEPLY COMMITTED TO THE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF THE TAMPA'S
09:44:12AM HISTORIC BUILDINGS THESE STRUCTURES SERVE AS LINKS TO OUR
09:44:18AM CITY'S PAST AND CONTRIBUTE TO UNIQUE CHARACTER.
09:44:21AM AS A BUILDER WITH APPROACH TRACK RECORD OF HISTORICAL
09:44:25AM RENOVATION PROJECTS, I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF
09:44:27AM PRESERVING THESE ARCHITECTURE TREASURES WHILE REPURPOSING
09:44:30AM THEM TO BE CONTEMPORARY NEEDS.
09:44:32AM BY SERVING ON THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION, I HOPE TO
09:44:36AM CHAMPION INITIATIVES THAT SAFEGUARD OUR CULTURAL HERITAGE
09:44:40AM AND PROMOTE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES.
09:44:42AM BEYOND MY PROFESSIONAL QUALIFICATIONS, I AM DRIVEN BY MY
09:44:46AM SINCERE DESIRE TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.
09:44:50AM HAVING CALLED TAMPA HOME FOR MANY YEARS, I AM VERY IN ITS
09:44:53AM FUTURE AND EAGER TO PLAY A ROLE IN SHAPE GOING FOR THE
09:44:56AM BETTER.
09:44:57AM SERVING ON THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION WILL AFFORD ME THE
09:45:01AM OPPORTUNITY TO LEVERAGE SKILLS AND EXPERTISE FOR THE
09:45:05AM COLLECTIVE BENEFIT OF OUR CITY ENSURING THAT FUTURE
09:45:10AM GENERATIONS HAVE A WELL BUILT DESIGN.
09:45:14AM IN CONCLUSION, MY BUILDING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND MY
09:45:19AM PASSION WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MAKES ME AN IDEAL
09:45:22AM CANDIDATE FOR THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
09:45:24AM I AM COMMITTED TO FOSTERING DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES THAT HONOR
09:45:27AM OUR CITY'S PAST WHILE PAVING THE WAY FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND
09:45:32AM PROSPERITY.
09:45:32AM JOINING THE BOARD WILL NOT ONLY BE A PRIVILEGE BUT A
09:45:35AM MEANINGFUL WAY TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE ONGOING EVOLUTION OF OUR
09:45:39AM BELOVED CITY OF TAMPA.
09:45:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
09:45:46AM YES, MA'AM.
09:45:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: RIGHT ON THE TIMER.
09:45:48AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO SERVE.
09:45:50AM THE VOLUNTEER POSITIONS OF THESE BOARDS ARE SO IMPORTANT.
09:45:53AM AND IT CAN BE HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO SERVE.
09:45:57AM AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.
09:45:58AM YOUR ENTHUSIASM AND YOUR SKILLSET I THINK WILL GO VERY FAR
09:46:04AM TOWARD PRESERVING AND HELP MOVING THE BARRIO LATINO FORWARD
09:46:11AM OF PRESERVING ITS PAST AND THINKING OF THE RICH
09:46:14AM ARCHITECTURAL HISTORY.
09:46:15AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:46:16AM >> YOU ARE WELCOME.
09:46:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SIR?
09:46:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK
09:46:20AM SAYS.
09:46:21AM TO HAVE SOMEONE WITH THE EXPERTISE AND THE BACKGROUND
09:46:25AM EXPERIENCE AND ENTHUSIASM COME FORWARD WITH THE COMMITTEE IS
09:46:28AM REALLY A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT TO THE -- NOT JUST THE -- THE
09:46:32AM BARRIO BUT THE ENTIRE CITY OF TAMPA BECAUSE, OF COURSE, IT
09:46:35AM IS ONE OF OUR JEWELS.
09:46:36AM I APPRECIATE THAT AND THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE LISTENING, IF YOU
09:46:41AM HAVE THOSE TYPES OF QUALIFICATION FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
09:46:44AM I URGE YOU TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE.
09:46:47AM AND JOIN THE CITY IN MAKING IT A BETTER PLACE.
09:46:50AM AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR BEING SO WELL QUALIFIED TO SERVE ON
09:46:54AM THIS COMMITTEE.
09:46:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVERYBODY ELSE.
09:46:57AM ALL RIGHT, MISS FOXX-KNOWLES.
09:47:01AM WE DON'T NEED A BALLOT.
09:47:03AM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
09:47:05AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:47:07AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:47:08AM OPPOSED?
09:47:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
09:47:16AM CAN YOU HAVE A MOTION TO RATIFY THAT DECISION.
09:47:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
09:47:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN TO
09:47:22AM BRING BACK FOR RATIFICATION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN
09:47:25AM HURTAK.
09:47:25AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:47:28AM ANY OPPOSED?
09:47:29AM CONGRATULATIONS.
09:47:30AM >> THANK YOU.
09:47:30AM [APPLAUSE]
09:47:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS FOXX-KNOWLES, ITEM NUMBER 5 FOR
09:47:41AM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE.
09:47:44AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: YES, SIR.
09:47:45AM I WOULD HIKE TO PRESENT TAMMY A. HAYLOCK MOORE.
09:47:49AM THANK YOU.
09:47:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
09:47:53AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEMBERS.
09:47:55AM THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE BEEN TO A COUNCIL MEETING.
09:47:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
09:48:01AM >> AGAIN, MY NAME IS TAMMY HAYLOCK MOORE.
09:48:06AM I AM JUST SO HONORED TO BE HERE TODAY, ESPECIALLY IN THE
09:48:09AM PRESENCE OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HONORED AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S
09:48:15AM BEEN -- IT HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE.
09:48:16AM IT HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE HERE TODAY.
09:48:19AM AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO LEND MY COMMITMENT TO THE CITY
09:48:28AM IN VOLUNTEERING ON A BOARD THAT I FEEL THAT I AM -- BASED ON
09:48:32AM WHAT I HAVE DONE IN MY LIFETIME, I AM WELL QUALIFIED FOR THE
09:48:36AM POSITION.
09:48:37AM I AM A MANAGING DIRECTOR AND SENIOR COMMERCIAL BANKER WITHIN
09:48:42AM THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BANKING LINE OF BUSINESS
09:48:45AM AT JPMORGAN CHASE.
09:48:46AM I HAVE BEEN WITH THE BANK FOR THE PAST 16 YEARS AND
09:48:49AM CURRENTLY SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE LENDING COMMITTEE OF
09:48:52AM FLORIDA COMMUNITY LOAN FUND.
09:48:54AM A BOARD MEMBER OF THE COALITION OF ATTAINABLE HOUSING
09:48:59AM PROVIDERS.
09:49:00AM AND A BOARD MEMBER OF FIRST HOUSING DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
09:49:03AM AND A FORMER BOARD MEMBERS OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FHA
09:49:07AM AND A FORMER BOARD MEMBER AND PAST BOARD CHAIR OF THE
09:49:10AM CORPORATION TO DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITIES HERE IN TAMPA BAY.
09:49:12AM I AM ALSO FORMER U.S. ARMY RESERVIST.
09:49:16AM AND I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE TAMPA RIVERSIDE HEIGHTS
09:49:19AM COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST 24 YEARS.
09:49:22AM AND HAVE LIVED IN THE COUNTY FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS.
09:49:25AM TAMPA CONTINUES TO BE A DESTINATION FOR PEOPLE SEEKING A
09:49:29AM LIFE FULL OF OPPORTUNITY.
09:49:35AM WE HAVE ONE OF HIGHEST POPULATION GROWTH RATE IN THE STATE
09:49:38AM AND THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS ARE MOVING HERE AT A RAPID PACE.
09:49:41AM UNFORTUNATELY, ECONOMIC PROSPERITY IS HARD TO REACH FOR MANY
09:49:46AM AND IN RECENT YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN AN ALARMING INCREASE IN
09:49:49AM PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS DUE TO A LACK OF AFFORDABLE
09:49:53AM HOUSING OPTIONS.
09:49:54AM MANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE LIVING IN HOTELS, MOTELS,
09:50:00AM DOUBLING UP WITH OTHER FAMILIES, STAYING IN HOMELESS
09:50:06AM SHELTERS.
09:50:06AM LIVING OUT OF THEIR CARS OR STORAGE UNITS OR SIMPLY LIVING
09:50:13AM IN OUR STREET.
09:50:14AM THE HEALTH OF OUR CITY AND FUTURE PROSPERITY IS ON THE
09:50:19AM ONLINE.
09:50:19AM WHEN OUR FAMILIES IN NEED LACK ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOMES,
09:50:22AM EDUCATION, ECONOMIC AID.
09:50:24AM AND THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THESE ISSUES IS BY
09:50:28AM MAKING SURE THAT THE WORK WE DO TOGETHER ON A PATH -- LEADS
09:50:32AM US ON A PATH IN MOVING THAT NEEDLE FORWARD ON THOSE
09:50:35AM IMPORTANT ISSUES.
09:50:36AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
09:50:38AM AND I REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, AGAIN, BE
09:50:44AM A VOLUNTEER AND COMMIT -- AND LENDING MY COMMITMENT TO -- TO
09:50:49AM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE HERE IN TAMPA THANKS.
09:50:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
09:50:56AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
09:50:57AM [ APPLAUSE ]
09:50:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
09:50:59AM MA'AM -- OH, OKAY.
09:51:01AM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT -- THAT I APPRECIATE
09:51:06AM MISS HAYLOCK-MOORE'S COMMENTS AND SHE IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
09:51:08AM ECONOMIC PROSPERITY IS INEXTRICABLY TIED TO HOUSING.
09:51:13AM AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING WITH YOU.
09:51:15AM AND WE HAVE ANOTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY MEMBER IN
09:51:19AM THE AUDIENCE TODAY, MISS ROBIN LOCKETT.
09:51:24AM RAISE YOUR HAND.
09:51:25AM SAY HI.
09:51:25AM VERY EXCITING WE WILL BE ABLE TO FILL IN THIS -- THIS
09:51:29AM COMMITTEE.
09:51:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MISS FOXX-KNOWLES, HOW MANY POSITIONS?
09:51:40AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: WE JUST HAVE ANOTHER APPLICANT.
09:51:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
09:51:48AM >>SHIRLEY FOXX-KNOWLES: WE HAVE ANOTHER APPLICANT, AND SHE
09:51:50AM CAN'T BE HERE TODAY.
09:51:51AM SHE HAD A FAMILY EMERGENCY.
09:51:52AM SO MISS JUAWANA COLBERT.
09:51:56AM SHE IS SELF-EMPLOYED LICENSED REALTOR.
09:51:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO APPROVE.
09:52:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE TO APPROVE AND BRING A RESOLUTION
09:52:04AM FORWARD CREATING A COMMITTEE FOR THE CONFIRMATION.
09:52:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND.
09:52:09AM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
09:52:09AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOR BOTH ITEMS, RIGHT?
09:52:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, ALL IN ONE ITEM.
09:52:16AM BOTH APPOINTMENTS IN ONE FILE NUMBER.
09:52:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
09:52:21AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
09:52:22AM OPPOSED?
09:52:23AM CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH APPLICANTS.
09:52:25AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SERVING.
09:52:27AM >> THANK YOU.
09:52:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHELBY, 9:52.
09:52:36AM 10 A.M. TIME CERTAIN.
09:52:37AM WOULD WE BE OF ANY TYPE OF VIOLATION IF WE STARTED AT 9:52
09:52:42AM IF EVERYBODY IS PRESENT FOR NUMBER 3?
09:52:46AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT A LEGAL VIOLATION, BUT IF PEOPLE WILL
09:52:49AM BE ANTICIPATING TO TUNE IN TO WATCH WITH A IT BEING ON THE
09:52:52AM AGENDA AT 10:00.
09:52:55AM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY IF I MISSED THIS WHEN I WENT THROUGH
09:52:58AM THE AGENDA.
09:52:58AM SEEMS TO ME THAT PEOPLE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 3, BUT THE SAME
09:53:03AM AS ITEM 99.
09:53:04AM DID WE MOVE 99 UP OR SHOULD WE MOVE 99 UP --
09:53:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MANISCALCO NO, NO, IT IS STAYING UNDER
09:53:13AM STAFF REPORT, THE CRB.
09:53:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE THAT MIGHT -- WELL,
09:53:19AM ANYWAY.
09:53:20AM KNOCK OUT A COUPLE OF CONSENT ITEMS.
09:53:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A LITTLE BIT OF THE CONSENT AGENDA
09:53:25AM BEFORE WE GO TO THE -- OKAY, ALL RIGHT.
09:53:28AM WOULD WE BE AGAINST TAKING A RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.
09:53:33AM WE WILL TAKE A RECESS UNTIL 10:00 JUST SO WE FOLLOW THE 10
09:53:38AM A.M. TIME CERTAIN.
09:53:39AM IN RECESS UNTIL 10:00.
09:53:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DARN RULES.
10:01:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK.
10:01:59AM ROLL CALL PLEASE.
10:02:00AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
10:02:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
10:02:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
10:02:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
10:02:10AM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
10:02:11AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 3.
10:02:13AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
10:02:14AM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:02:15AM ITEM NUMBER 3 IS FOR THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD TO PROVIDE
10:02:19AM THEIR ANNUAL REPORT.
10:02:20AM ON APRIL 23, 2024, THE BOARD VOTED TO APPROVE THE 2023
10:02:26AM CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD ANNUAL REPORT.
10:02:28AM PURSUANT TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE SECTION 18-8,
10:02:35AM SUBSECTIONS I-2, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CITIZENS REVIEW
10:02:38AM BOARD WILL PROVIDE A BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE ANNUAL REPORT.
10:02:41AM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PRESENTATION, ALL CITY COUNCIL
10:02:44AM MEMBERS ACCORDING TO THE CODE SHALL -- ARE REQUIRED TO
10:02:48AM CERTIFY THAT THEY HAVE REVIEWED AND RECEIVED THE ANNUAL
10:02:51AM REPORT.
10:02:51AM UNFORTUNATELY, OUR CHAIR MR. AQUIL HAD AN EMERGENCY AND
10:02:58AM THANKFULLY, MISS GUY IS ABLE TO STAND IN AND PROVIDE THE
10:03:01AM BOARD THE REPORT.
10:03:02AM I WILL TURN IT OVER TO HER.
10:03:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD MORNING.
10:03:10AM >>IRENE GUY: GOOD MORNING.
10:03:12AM NICE TO BE HERE THIS MORNING.
10:03:14AM THIS IS THE 2023 ANNUAL REVIEW REPORT.
10:03:17AM FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THE MEMBERS OF
10:03:20AM THE CRB --
10:03:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME, MA'AM.
10:03:25AM >> IRENE GUY: I AM SORRY, I SHOULD KNOW THAT.
10:03:30AM IRENE GUY.
10:03:31AM I LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:03:32AM I AM ON THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD.
10:03:34AM I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
10:03:35AM IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WILL BE REVIEWING THE REPORT NOT
10:03:38AM IN TOTAL.
10:03:40AM TODAY WE HAVE WITH US TWO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, INCLUDING
10:03:43AM MYSELF, DEVIN INGANDELA AND ALBERT COOKE ARE BEHIND ME
10:03:51AM TODAY.
10:03:52AM THE CRB CONSISTS OF 11 VOTING MEMBERS.
10:03:56AM THE CRB HELD TEN MEETINGS IN 2023.
10:04:01AM THE BOARD REVIEWED NINE CLOSED INTERNAL AFFAIRS
10:04:04AM INVESTIGATIONS.
10:04:04AM THE NINE INVESTIGATIONS SHOW TOTAL OF 21 POLICY VIOLATIONS.
10:04:11AM MOST FREQUENT WAS STANDARD OF CONDUCT.
10:04:13AM IN ADDITION TO THESE NINE CLOSED INTERNAL AFFAIR CASES,
10:04:18AM THE CRB HEARD AND CONSIDERED MATTERS OF DEPARTMENT BUSINESS
10:04:22AM AND OF PUBLIC INTEREST.
10:04:23AM THE CRB INVITED STATE ATTORNEY SUSAN S. LOPEZ WHO CAME AT
10:04:29AM OUR INVITATION ON MAY 23 MEETING.
10:04:32AM CHIEF BERCAW ATTENDED THE JUNE 23 MEETING AND DISCUSSED
10:04:36AM HISTORY WITH TPD AS WELL AS HIS FUTURE PLANS FOR THE
10:04:40AM DEPARTMENT.
10:04:40AM THE CRB HELD MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THE COMMUNITY
10:04:44AM SURVEY WHICH WAS DONE BY THE -- BY THE -- THE MAYOR.
10:04:51AM AND THE PRESENTATIONS WERE MADE TO THE BOARD REGARDING TPD'S
10:04:56AM HIRING INTERVIEW PANEL, TPD'S BEHAVIORAL HEALTH UNIT,
10:05:01AM AND TPD STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURES REGARDING RESPONSE TO
10:05:05AM RESISTANCE.
10:05:06AM AND TOTAL NUMBER OF CITIZEN COMPLAINTS IN THE YEAR 2023 WAS
10:05:10AM 266.
10:05:12AM THE -- OF THE NINE CASES THE CRB CONCURRED WITH THE
10:05:19AM DISPOSITION AND DISCIPLINE OF EIGHT OF THE CASES.
10:05:25AM THERE ARE ALWAYS LOTS OF DISCUSSION AND DISCUSSION WITH THE
10:05:28AM POLICE REPRESENTATIVES AND ATTORNEYS IN THE AUDIENCE.
10:05:31AM SO THAT MAY SEEM LIKE IT WAS THE -- THAT THE POSITION WAS
10:05:37AM THAT WE CONCURRED, BUT THERE WAS LOTS OF DISCUSSION.
10:05:40AM IN 2023, THE CRB DID NOT MAKE ANY SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS
10:05:45AM TO THE DEPARTMENT, MAYOR OR CHIEF OF POLICE NOR DID THEY
10:05:48AM RECOMMEND CHANGES CONCERNING TAMPA BAY ORDINANCE SECTION
10:05:53AM 18.8.
10:05:53AM THE CRB CONTINUED IN THE HIRING PROCESS OF TAMPA POLICE
10:06:01AM OFFICERS.
10:06:01AM THEY ARE ABLE TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THEIR
10:06:04AM OPINION OF THE SUSTAINABILITY -- OF THE SUITABILITY OF EACH
10:06:07AM CANDIDATE.
10:06:07AM THIS ROLE IS ROTATED AMONG MEMBERS OF THE CRB.
10:06:12AM THE REMAINING MEETINGS WERE HELD IN THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
10:06:16AM CHAMBER.
10:06:16AM DURING THE MARCH 25, 2024 MEETING, THE CRB APPROVED THE
10:06:22AM FOLLOWING STATEMENTS AT THE BOARD'S DISCRETION.
10:06:26AM IN 2023, CRB MEMBERS PARTICIPATED IN THE INTERVIEWS OF 134
10:06:31AM APPLICANTS TO INCLUDE 86 CERTIFIED LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICE
10:06:35AM APPLICANTS AND 48 SCHOLARSHIP TPD POLICE ACADEMY APPLICANTS.
10:06:40AM THE CRB RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL REMOVE ITS
10:06:44AM REQUIREMENT REFERRING TO HOLDING CRB MEET INFORMATION EACH
10:06:48AM OF THE FOUR CITY COUNCIL SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS AND
10:06:52AM REPRESENTS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL FURTHER MODIFY ITS
10:06:54AM ORDINANCE TO INCLUDE THE CRB IN COMMUNITY MEETINGS WITH THE
10:06:58AM TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:06:59AM THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT.
10:07:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:07:04AM ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
10:07:07AM >>IRENE GUY: THANK YOU.
10:07:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MISS GUY.
10:07:12AM AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:07:15AM IF ANYBODY IS HERE TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU HAVE
10:07:18AM THREE MINUTES.
10:07:19AM PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
10:07:21AM YES, SIR -- OH, MR. SHELBY, GO AHEAD, SIR.
10:07:24AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:07:28AM AS THE CHAIR SAID, THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ALLOW
10:07:32AM REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA
10:07:35AM BEFORE THE CITY OF TAMPA TAKES ACTION ON AN ITEM.
10:07:38AM THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT FOR ALL SPEAKER PROVIDING PUBLIC
10:07:42AM COMMENT.
10:07:42AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE REMINDED TO REFRAIN
10:07:47AM FROM DISTRACTIVE BEHAVIOR OR MAKING VULGAR REMARKS
10:07:52AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES, SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
10:07:56AM SPEAKERS ARE REMINDED TO REFREEZING RAIN FROM MAKING
10:07:59AM PERSONAL ATTACKS TO ANY IF CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, STAFF OR
10:08:04AM MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
10:08:05AM THE CHAIR CAN RULE OUT OF ORDER ANYBODY WHO IS NOT
10:08:08AM RECOGNIZED AND TRY TO ADDRESS COUNCIL OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER
10:08:11AM AREA.
10:08:12AM THOSE NOT COMPLYING WITH COUNCIL RULES WILL BE CALLED OUT OF
10:08:16AM ORDER AND CAN BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBER FOR THE REMAINDER
10:08:19AM OF TODAY'S MEETING.
10:08:20AM IF YOU WERE HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM THAT IS SET ON THE
10:08:22AM AGENDA FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, YOU WILL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY
10:08:25AM WHEN THE ITEM IS HEARD LATER IN THE AGENDA.
10:08:27AM NO PUBLIC COMMENT ALREADY TAKEN LATER DURING STAFF REPORTS.
10:08:32AM THE TIME TO SPEAK ON STAFF REPORT AND THOSE ITEMS ON THE
10:08:35AM CONSENT AGENDA IS NOW DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:08:38AM AND FINALLY, PLEASE CITY COUNCIL, REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING THE
10:08:42AM SPEAKER ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC PLEASE SHOULD BE
10:08:46AM AWARE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE
10:08:48AM A DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:08:54AM YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
10:08:56AM THANK YOU.
10:08:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:08:59AM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR
10:09:02AM NAME.
10:09:02AM >> GOOD MORNING, SUSAN ELBAR.
10:09:05AM A LONG-TIME RESIDENT OF SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
10:09:07AM BEFORE THAT, I WAS A HOMEOWNER IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:09:10AM I KNOW YOU SAID NO SIGNS, BUT THIS IS MADE BY AN
10:09:13AM EIGHT-YEAR-OLD AND YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHAT I AM GOING TO TALK
10:09:16AM ABOUT.
10:09:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, MA'AM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:18AM >> FINE ME LATER.
10:09:20AM ANYWAY, I APPRECIATE THIS -- THIS CHANCE TO TALK WITH YOU
10:09:24AM ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:09:25AM I REALIZE IT IS GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA LATER.
10:09:28AM I AM SPEAKING RIGHT NOW.
10:09:29AM HOWEVER, I WANT TO YOU KNOW THERE ARE 833 PEOPLE IN BACK OF
10:09:33AM ME ON A PETITION RIGHT NOW SUPPORTING US WITH SULPHUR
10:09:38AM SPRINGS POOL.
10:09:38AM THE POOL HAS BEEN A LANDMARK IN SULPHUR SPRINGS FOR OVER 90
10:09:45AM YEARS.
10:09:45AM IT HAS THE RECONSTRUCTION IN 2000.
10:09:50AM THE CITY PARKS AND RECREATION OFFERED AFFORDABLE SWIMMING,
10:09:53AM FITNESS, WATER AEROBICS AND SAFETY CLASSES FOR ALL AGES.
10:09:57AM JUST LAST YEAR, THE POOL WAS THE THIRD HIGHEST THAT WAS
10:10:00AM ATTENDED OUT OF ALL THE CITY POOLS; HOWEVER, SINCE LAST
10:10:04AM NOVEMBER, IT HAS BEEN TO, QUOTE, CLOSED INDEFINITELY FOR
10:10:08AM MAJOR REPAIRS.
10:10:09AM WHAT IS ITS FUTURE.
10:10:11AM THIS SOURCE CONCERN.
10:10:12AM MANY BELIEVE SULPHUR SPRINGS DESERVES TO KEEP THE VALUABLE
10:10:16AM COMMUNITY RESOURCE AND GATHERING PLACE THAT SHOULD REMAIN IN
10:10:20AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:10:20AM IF IT NEEDS TO BE REBUILT, WE ARE ASKING THE CITY TO MOVE
10:10:23AM QUICKLY ON IT TO BRING OUR FACULTY BACK TO LIFE.
10:10:26AM WHEN I WAS YOUNG -- WHEN I WAS A YOUNG HOMEOWNER IN SULPHUR
10:10:31AM SPRINGS, IT WAS A VIBRANT COMMUNITY THAT WAS FILLED WITH
10:10:35AM MODEST COTTAGES, LOCAL SHOPS, BUT REMAINED OF THE LEGENDARY
10:10:39AM SULPHUR SPRINGS TOURIST RESORT DEVELOPED IN 1920 BY JOSEPH
10:10:45AM -- JOSIAH RICHARDSON.
10:10:47AM FEATURES MANY THINGS LIKE THE HISTORIC ARCADE THE FIRST
10:10:50AM SHOPPING MALL IN FLORIDA AND ACTUALLY IN RIPLEY'S BELIEVE IT
10:10:54AM OR NOT.
10:10:54AM MALLS DIDN'T EXIST BACK THEN.
10:10:57AM DRIVE-IN THEATRE.
10:10:58AM HOTEL AND APARTMENTS.
10:10:59AM A PLACE THAT YOU COULD SHOP AT 5 AND 10.
10:11:02AM VISIT THE BANK, A BARBERSHOP, EVEN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND
10:11:06AM JAIL WAS LOCATED THERE.
10:11:07AM IN THE LATE 1970s, MANY OF THE OLD COULD THE -- COTTAGES AND
10:11:16AM DUPLEXES.
10:11:17AM SADLY BY 1985, THE ICONIC STRUCTURE HAD BEEN LEVELED AND
10:11:21AM ARCADE WAS REPLACE BY AN OVERFLOW PARK LOT FOR THE TAMPA
10:11:26AM GREYHOUND TRACK.
10:11:27AM ONLY THE GAZEBO, THE TOWER AND ORIGINAL SPRING-FED POOL
10:11:33AM SURVIVED AND LOOKED VASTLY DIFFERENT THAN IT DID THEN.
10:11:36AM ANYWAY, THE POOL WAS SHUTTERED IN THE 1986 AND TOOK 16 YEARS
10:11:43AM TO MR. THE POOL WE HAVE NOW.
10:11:46AM I WANT TO SAY BOTH INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES AND CITIZENS ARE
10:11:49AM VERY INTERESTED IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION OF THIS POOL.
10:11:52AM AND WE DO HAVE -- WE HAVE TURNED IN A LIST OF QUESTIONS TO
10:11:59AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO EARLIER AND EAGERLY AWAIT THE ANSWER
10:12:02AM TO THOSE.
10:12:03AM IN THE MEANTIME, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUING INTEREST
10:12:06AM IN HELPING US SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.
10:12:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:09AM >> THANK YOU.
10:12:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:12:11AM YES, SIR.
10:12:13AM AND THEN WE WILL HAVE REPRESENTATIVE ALVAREZ.
10:12:15AM I SEE YOU THERE AFTER THIS GENTLEMAN.
10:12:17AM GO AHEAD.
10:12:21AM >> RYAN HAYES.
10:12:23AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCILMEN AND WOMEN.
10:12:26AM I AM RYAN HAYES.
10:12:33AM PRESIDENT OF A THIS NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION CAIRO AND FRIEND
10:12:38AM HUMANITARIAN PRACTICES, WELL BEING, SERVICE AND THERAPY
10:12:42AM DOGS.
10:12:42AM WE HAVE TWO OTHER K-9s AND GRADUATED FROM THE MOFFITT CANCER
10:12:49AM SOCIETY.
10:12:49AM I AM A MEMBER OF THE IMPAIRMENT COMMUNITY, AND I REFRAIN
10:12:52AM FROM USING THE TERMINOLOGY THAT IS FROM THE DISABLED DUE TO
10:12:57AM THE FACT THAT INDIVIDUALS -- IT SEEMS AS IT IS
10:13:01AM COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
10:13:02AM I AM COMING HERE BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO SEE IF THERE IS
10:13:06AM ANY TYPE OF FACILITIES OR BUILDING SPACE THAT CAN BE
10:13:08AM OCCUPIED BY CAIRO AND FRIENDS.
10:13:10AM WE HAVE CURRENTLY A 650-FOOT STORE LOCATED IN THE OLDSMAR
10:13:17AM FLEA MARKET.
10:13:18AM WE HAVE BEEN THERE OVER A YEAR.
10:13:19AM A VIGOROUS PROCESS TO TRY TO STAY AFLOAT.
10:13:23AM OUR FACILITY HAS NO AC AND SO FORTH.
10:13:25AM YOU GO ON GOOGLE AND LOOK UP CAIRO AND FRIEND, WE HAVE A
10:13:30AM TRANSPARENT VIEW.
10:13:31AM 378 FIVE-STAR GOOGLE REVIEWS.
10:13:34AM YOU CAN LOOK AT NONPROFITS.
10:13:35AM IT TAKES ALL OF THE NONPROFITS IN THE LOCAL HILLSBOROUGH
10:13:38AM COMMUNITY TO BE EQUIVALENT TO OUR STATUS.
10:13:41AM AND I AM JUST REALLY TRYING TO BRING AWARENESS.
10:13:44AM WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ANY GRANTS OR ANYTHING.
10:13:47AM WE ARE TRYING TO SEE IF THERE IS ANY TYPE OF NETWORK
10:13:49AM OPPORTUNITIES AND ANY TYPE OF AFFILIATIONS THAT CAN BE
10:13:53AM IMPLEMENTED WITH CAIRO AND FRIENDS, ALL OF OUR ANNUAL
10:13:58AM REPORTS AND FILINGS HAVE BEEN CURRENT SINCE 2019.
10:14:01AM AND I AM AN INDIVIDUAL THAT IS A LICENSED CLINICAL MENTAL
10:14:05AM HEALTH THERAPIST AS WELL.
10:14:07AM I HOLD TWO DEGREES, A BACHELOR OF SCIENCE AND MASTER'S
10:14:12AM DEGREE IN EDUCATION.
10:14:12AM I DID HAVE A LETTER THAT I WAS GOING TO VERBATIMLY READ FROM
10:14:17AM AND I WOULD RATHER SPEAK FROM THE HEART AND BE CLEAR AND
10:14:20AM DIRECT, AND HOPEFULLY YOU SENSE A PASSIONATE INDIVIDUAL WHO
10:14:23AM IS SPEAKING BEFORE YOU.
10:14:25AM IF I MAY OR GIVE THE GENTLEMAN OR ANOTHER ASSOCIATE LETTERS
10:14:28AM THAT I HAVE PRINTED.
10:14:30AM YES, SIR.
10:14:30AM I AM SORRY.
10:14:34AM THAT IS BASICALLY IT.
10:14:35AM I HOPE THAT THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF GET OUR
10:14:39AM MESSAGE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE COUNCILMEMBERS AS
10:14:43AM WELL.
10:14:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:45AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:14:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF BENNETT, ARE YOU ABLE TO EXCHANGE
10:14:49AM INFORMATION WITH THE GENTLEMAN AND SEE -- THE NAME OF YOUR
10:14:52AM ORGANIZATION IF SAY IT AGAIN AT MICROPHONE?
10:14:58AM >> CAIRO AND FRIENDS.
10:15:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
10:15:02AM THE CHIEF OF STAFF IS GOING --
10:15:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THE NAME OF YOUR DOGGY?
10:15:08AM >> CAIRO.
10:15:09AM THANK YOU FOR COMING UP AND ASKING.
10:15:11AM I HAVE SO MANY INDIVIDUALS WHO DON'T KNOW THE CORRECT WAY TO
10:15:14AM APPROACH AN INDIVIDUAL.
10:15:15AM BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JUST BEING VERY COURTEOUS AND
10:15:18AM HUMANE, SIR.
10:15:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ABSOLUTELY.
10:15:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:15:22AM REPRESENTATIVE.
10:15:26AM PLEASE COME UP AND SAY YOUR NAME.
10:15:28AM >> GOOD MORNING, REPRESENTATIVE DANNY ALVAREZ.
10:15:31AM I WOULD HAVE SAID DANNY ALVAREZ UNTIL YOU SAID
10:15:35AM REPRESENTATIVE.
10:15:36AM A FRIEND OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:15:39AM HERE TO TALK OF THE CRB AND WHAT WE -- I KNOW DISCUSSION OF
10:15:43AM POSITIONS GOING FORWARD.
10:15:44AM I WANT TO COME AND EXPLAIN FROM THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE WHAT WE
10:15:48AM UNDERSTOOD THE INTENT OF THIS WHEN WE DEBATE IT ON THE FLOOR
10:15:51AM AND IT WENT FORWARD.
10:15:53AM INSTEAD OF USING MY WORDS, THE BILL ANALYSIS.
10:15:55AM NORMALLY I NEVER READ FROM ANYTHING BECAUSE I FIND THAT
10:15:58AM DISTRACTS ME BUT I WANT TO BE PRECISE.
10:16:01AM THE CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD THAT WE HAVE TODAY UNDER THIS LAW
10:16:04AM IS CONSIDERED A CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT AGENCY.
10:16:06AM A GOVERNMENT ENTITY CREATED BY A COUNTY OR MUNICIPALITY OF
10:16:10AM EXTERNAL OVERSIGHT OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT IS
10:16:13AM COMPRISED OF CITIZENS WHO ARE NOT SWORN LAW ENFORCEMENT.
10:16:17AM WHAT THE CURRENT LAW IS GOING TO DO AND WILL DO PROHIBIT
10:16:22AM POLITICAL SUBDIVISION FROM ADOPTING OR ATTEMPTING TO ENFORCE
10:16:25AM ANY ORDINANCE RELATED TO -- THAT IS WHERE WE ARE SPLITTING
10:16:28AM HAIRS.
10:16:28AM BUT STICK WITH ME FOR A SECOND.
10:16:30AM THE RECEIPT, PROCESSING AND INVESTIGATION OF COMPLAINTS OF
10:16:33AM MISCONDUCT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT OR CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS OR
10:16:37AM CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OF A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, INVESTIGATES
10:16:41AM OF COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT BY CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS OR LAW
10:16:44AM ENFORCEMENT.
10:16:44AM UNDER THE COA, WHICH IS TAMPA'S CRB, THAT IS CURRENTLY
10:16:51AM PERFORMING OVERSIGHT FUNCTIONS OVER COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT
10:16:54AM ARE PROHIBITED TO DO SO AFTER JULY 1, 2024.
10:16:57AM EXPRESSED THAT THIS LAW SAID THERE IS THE PROHIBITION OF ANY
10:17:01AM RELATED ACTIVITIES WHERE THE CRB WOULD OR SHOULD DO NO
10:17:05AM MATTER HOW IT WAS CREATED.
10:17:07AM GOING FORWARD, IT IS -- IT COVERS ANYTHING CREATED BY
10:17:10AM ORDINANCE.
10:17:10AM CRBs ARE COAs AND BY THIS LAW, IT IS IN THE CORNER AND SAID
10:17:18AM THEY SHOULD NOT PROCEED AFTER JULY 4.
10:17:20AM BLACK AND WHITE.
10:17:21AM I KNOW YOUR CITY ATTORNEYS HAVE A SIMILAR POSITION, AND I
10:17:24AM WANT TO HAVE THAT ONE GOING FORWARD.
10:17:25AM HAVING WORKED ON THIS BILL AND HAVING CO-SPONSORED IT
10:17:29AM MYSELF, IF YOU WERE TO FIND SOME SORT OF WAY THAT YOU ARE
10:17:31AM GOING TO KEEP IT GOING, WE WILL JUST HAVE TO COME BACK TO
10:17:34AM THE DAIS, AND THEN TIGHTEN IT UP WITH WHATEVER LOOPHOLE THEY
10:17:39AM MAY HAVE FOUND.
10:17:39AM I HATE TO HAVE TO BE THAT WAY AND TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT THE
10:17:42AM INTENT OF THIS WAS TO UNIFORMLY MAKE THESE COAs ACROSS THE
10:17:49AM STATE OF FLORIDA.
10:17:50AM AND AFTER JULY 1, THEY CAN SHUT DOWN AND REOPEN AT THE WILL
10:17:55AM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IF YOU WANT THAT UNDERNEATH THE
10:17:57AM ORDINANCE'S RULES OR STATUTE'S RULES.
10:18:01AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:18:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:18:03AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:18:04AM YES, MA'AM, GOOD MORNING.
10:18:05AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:18:07AM >> GOOD MORNING, DEBBIE ZOMERMAAND, 192 -- I DON'T HAVE TO
10:18:15AM GIVE MY ADDRESS.
10:18:16AM DEBBIE ZOMERMAAND.
10:18:18AM NUMBER ONE, I HAVE TWO ITEMS TO SPEAK TO.
10:18:21AM CONGRATULATE YOU TO HAVE TAMMY HAYLOCK-MOORE.
10:18:26AM I HAVE DONE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF DEALS.
10:18:30AM ALL AFFORDABLE.
10:18:31AM FABULOUS.
10:18:32AM WELL-RESPECTED IN THE INDUSTRY.
10:18:33AM AND YOU HAVE A VERY EXCELLENT BOARD MEMBER WHEN YOU SELECTED
10:18:37AM HER.
10:18:37AM CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU.
10:18:38AM I THINK IT IS A GOOD THING FOR THE CITY.
10:18:41AM SHE IS VERY CREATIVE.
10:18:43AM REGARDING ITEM NUMBER 77, IN AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, WE
10:18:49AM DON'T THINK IT IS AN ISSUE, BUT THE DAVIS ISLAND CIVIC
10:18:55AM BOARD.
10:18:56AM WE ARE FINE WITH THE HEARING DATE FOR AUGUST 22, BUT IF
10:19:00AM THERE IS A REQUEST TO SHORTEN THE PERIOD TO A DATE EARLIER
10:19:04AM THAN AUGUST 22, WE REQUEST THAT THAT REQUEST BE DENIED.
10:19:07AM WE AREN'T AWARE OF ONE, BUT JUST OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF
10:19:11AM CAUTION.
10:19:12AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:19:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:19:13AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:19:15AM YES, MA'AM.
10:19:16AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:19:17AM >> IRENE GUY, CITIZEN OF TAMPA.
10:19:19AM I AM SPEAKING ON ITEM NUMBER 99, FILE NUMBER CM 24-4866.
10:19:27AM I AM SPEAKING YOU TODAY TO EXPRESS MY KNOWLEDGE AND
10:19:32AM EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITIZENS REVIEW BOARD OF THE TAMPA
10:19:35AM POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:19:35AM I HAVE HONORABLY SERVED ON THE BOARD SINCE DECEMBER OF 2015,
10:19:40AM APPOINTED BY YOU, CITY COUNCIL.
10:19:43AM IN THE EARLY YEARS, WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH SOME PRETTY
10:19:47AM SIGNIFICANT THINGS.
10:19:47AM AS AN EXAMPLE, THE CITIZENS SURVEY CONDUCTED THROUGH NYU TO
10:19:52AM REVIEW AND COLLABORATIONS WITH TPD ON AN EXAMINATION OF
10:19:56AM RACIAL DISPARITIES AND BICYCLE STOPS AND CITATIONS BY TPD OF
10:20:03AM THE VIRGINIA PARK CENTER FOR POLICING INNOVATION RESULTING
10:20:06AM TO CHANGES IN TPD.
10:20:08AM SUPPORTING THE DISTRIBUTION OF BODY-BORN CAMERAS.
10:20:12AM ENCOURAGING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS
10:20:16AM AND MUCH, MUCH MORE.
10:20:17AM THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, CRB WAS BEING USE BY GROUPS WITH
10:20:23AM THEIR OWN AGENDAS.
10:20:23AM GIVING SUBPOENA POWER TO A BOARD OF VOLUNTEERS MANY OF WHICH
10:20:26AM ARE UNTRAINED AND NOT KNOWING THE POWER OF THE SUBPOENA.
10:20:30AM HIRING A NONCITY ATTORNEY OR SUGGESTING THAT THIS BOARD
10:20:33AM INVESTIGATE RATHER THAN REVIEW PROFESSIONAL STANDARD BUREAU
10:20:39AM CASES.
10:20:39AM THIS WAS BROUGHT IN A POLL BY JUNE 2021 WITH LEADING
10:20:42AM QUESTIONS RETURNING THE DESIRED RESULT.
10:20:44AM WITH THE PASSAGE OF HB 061, THERE HAS BEEN FURTHER INTEREST
10:20:48AM FROM OTHER GROUPS HAVING PROVIDED THEIR LAWYERS
10:20:52AM INTERPRETATION OF THE LEGISLATION TO THE CRB THAT DIFFERS
10:20:57AM FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY, THE LAWYER GOING SO FAR INDICATING
10:21:00AM THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S INTERPRETATION WAS WRONG BY THE
10:21:05AM IF TPD'S DESIRE TO ELIMINATE THE CRB.
10:21:08AM I DON'T KNOW WHY I AM NERVOUS.
10:21:10AM I HAVE SPOKEN TO YOU A MILLION TIMES.
10:21:12AM THE CITY'S ATTORNEY BEING THE SUPPORT FOR THE CRB HAS NOT
10:21:17AM SHOWN ANY INDICATION THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTIVE OF THE CRB.
10:21:21AM WE AS GROUP HAD MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO CHALLENGE ITEMS AND
10:21:25AM GIVEN STRAIGHTFORWARD AND TO MY KNOWLEDGE HONEST
10:21:28AM ASSESSMENTS.
10:21:28AM INSULTING FROM THE CITY STAFF THAT SOMEONE LECTURES TO US
10:21:32AM THAT WE SHOULD NOT TRUST THE STAFF.
10:21:34AM HAVING SAID ALL OF THIS, EVERYTHING HAS A SEASON AS YOU CAN
10:21:41AM TELL, WE ACCOMPLISHED MUCH WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL
10:21:45AM ORDINANCES.
10:21:45AM THE LEGISLATURE SPOKEN CONTINUE TO THESE BOARDS, WE HAVE
10:21:50AM COME TO AN END AND AN INITIATIVE FOR OTHER OVERSIGHT BOARDS.
10:21:55AM HOPE THAT THIS WILL TAKE TO HEART THE COMMUNITY LIAISON THAT
10:21:59AM IS PART OF T PD, ENHANCE TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY.
10:22:03AM I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT YOU WILL TRUST IN THE CITY'S LEGAL
10:22:07AM COUNCIL AND ACCEPT THEIR INTERPRETATION OF SB 601.
10:22:11AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AS ALWAYS.
10:22:12AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:22:14AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:22:15AM STATE YOUR NAME.
10:22:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, MENTESNOT.
10:22:19AM THAT IS SO INTERESTING.
10:22:20AM TAMPA, FLORIDA.
10:22:21AM EVERY TIME GO TO NEBRASKA AVENUE, EVERY TIME WE GET A
10:22:24AM PROSTITUTE.
10:22:25AM EVERY TIME I TELL HER AND SAY, TRUST ME, I WILL PAY YOU
10:22:28AM AFTER THE AFFAIR.
10:22:31AM WE SHOULD TRUST THE CITY STAFF?
10:22:33AM WHAT DOES THAT SOUND LIKE?
10:22:35AM AFRICAN PEOPLE GETTING MURDERED AND BEATEN AND KILLED AND
10:22:38AM BICYCLE STOPPED, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF THEM.
10:22:41AM AND WE SHOULD TRUST THE CITY STAFF?
10:22:44AM AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE DON'T NEED A POLICE REVIEW BOARD.
10:22:48AM WE NEED TO TEACH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE HOW TO RETALIATE WHEN THIS
10:22:52AM NONSENSE HAPPENS TO US.
10:22:53AM THAT IS WHAT WE NEED.
10:22:54AM WE DON'T NEED RECONCILIATION.
10:23:00AM WE NEED RETRIBUTION AND REVENGE.
10:23:03AM WE NEED MAKING IT EVEN.
10:23:05AM THAT IS WHAT WE NEED.
10:23:06AM YOU DON'T HEAR AFRICAN PEOPLE TALK LIKE THAT.
10:23:09AM YOU DON'T HEAR AFRICAN PEOPLE SAYING WE NEED OUR OWN NUCLEAR
10:23:13AM WEAPONS.
10:23:13AM WE NEED A WAY TO PROTECT BLACK LIFE.
10:23:16AM WE RUN AROUND TALKING OF BLACK LIFE MATTER.
10:23:19AM BLACK LIVES DON'T MATTER.
10:23:21AM YOU SEE HOW THEY BEAT THE OUR DAY IN LAKELAND, IN POLK
10:23:25AM COUNTY, A KID WANTED TO GO TO THE POOL AND HAVE SOME FUN.
10:23:28AM HOW THEY MURDERED THE YOUNG AFRICAN MAN IN THE PANHANDLE IN
10:23:32AM HIS OWN HOME.
10:23:34AM TRUST THE POLICE.
10:23:36AM TRUST THE CITY ATTORNEY.
10:23:38AM TRUST WHITE FOLKS.
10:23:44AM HEY, LET'S TALK OF THE NEW AGE AND AGE OF DISCOVERY,
10:23:48AM ENLIGHTENMENT, RENAISSANCE, ALL THOSE THINGS, COLONIALISM,
10:23:52AM CAPITALISM, ALL THOSE THINGS.
10:23:54AM TALK OF US AFRICAN PEOPLE BEING 26% OF THIS POPULATION AND
10:23:59AM WE NEVER RECEIVED 26% OF THE CITY BUDGET.
10:24:02AM PRESTON SAID IT BEST, LOVING FROM NOTHING LEAVES NOTHING AND
10:24:08AM SINCE 1875, AFRICAN PEOPLE IS GETTING NOTHING FROM THE CITY.
10:24:13AM A SCARY CITY.
10:24:13AM A SCARY PLACE TO LIVE.
10:24:15AM A SCARY WORLD.
10:24:16AM 84 WEALTHIEST PLACE ON EARTH HAVE MORE WEALTH THAN FOUR
10:24:20AM BILLION PEOPLE ON THE EARTH.
10:24:22AM A SCARY WORLD WE LIVE IN.
10:24:24AM A GARBAGE CITY COUNCIL, ALL SEVEN OF YOU ALL, GARBAGE.
10:24:28AM STRAIGHT GARBAGE.
10:24:29AM TELL YOU TO YOUR FACE.
10:24:31AM I DON'T SAY ANYTHING BEHIND THEIR BACK.
10:24:33AM CAN'T GET A RESOLUTION IN PALESTINE.
10:24:36AM GOT SOME STINKING NASTY ZIONIST MURDERING PALESTINIAN BABIES
10:24:41AM CLAIMING THEY ARE LOOKING FOR HAMAS.
10:24:42AM AIN'T NO SUCH GROUP AS HAMAS.
10:24:44AM AIN'T NO SUCH GROUP.
10:24:46AM THAT IS LIKE THEY TELL YOU A BLACK DRUG DEALER.
10:24:49AM AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS A BLACK DRUG DEALER.
10:24:52AM PERIOD.
10:24:53AM THIS CITY COUNCIL CAN'T GET IT TOGETHER.
10:24:58AM GET IT TOGETHER.
10:24:58AM WE ARE 26% OF THE POPULATION.
10:25:00AM WE WANT 26% OF THE CITY'S BUDGET.
10:25:02AM WE DON'T HAVE TO BEG FOR IT.
10:25:04AM WE ARE GOING TO STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR IT.
10:25:07AM WE WILL ENCOURAGE OUR PEOPLE, INCITE OUR PEOPLE TO FIGHT FOR
10:25:11AM IT.
10:25:11AM WE ARE 26% OF THIS POPULATION.
10:25:13AM WE WANT 26% OF THE BUDGET.
10:25:15AM PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
10:25:16AM WE DON'T NEED ANY OF THIS PATERNALISTIC TALK AND THIS
10:25:20AM NONSENSE WHITE FOLKS BE TELLING US.
10:25:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:25:24AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:25:25AM >> GOOD MORNING, HAMAIRA APSOL.
10:25:29AM START OFF WITH A THANK YOU.
10:25:31AM THANK YOU FOR TAKING ITEM 14 OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA WHICH
10:25:37AM SPENDING ANOTHER $280,000 FOR ANOTHER YEAR OF THE SHOT
10:25:41AM SPOTTER DETECTION PROGRAM.
10:25:44AM I ASK THAT YOU DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE IN REVIEWING IS THAT A
10:25:49AM GOOD USE OF THE MONEY.
10:25:50AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ALL SHOW THERE IS, YEAH, A FIVE-MINUTE
10:25:56AM GOOGLE SEARCH WILL PULL UP ALL KINDS OF INFORMATION SHOWING
10:25:59AM THIS IS NOT A WISE USE OF INFORMATION.
10:26:01AM ASK QUESTIONS LIKE, DOES IT ACTUALLY WORK?
10:26:04AM DOES IT SEND ALERTS WITH GUNSHOTS FIRED.
10:26:08AM WERE GUNSHOTS FIRED WHEN THE ALERT WAS SENT.
10:26:12AM HOW IS IT DOCUMENTED.
10:26:13AM SHOT SPOTTER RELIES ON POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
10:26:17AM AND THAT TELLS THAT THE SHOT SPOTTER ITSELF DOESN'T HAVE
10:26:22AM ACCURATE DATA ON THEIR OWN TECHNOLOGY.
10:26:25AM PEER REVIEW, QUALITY NONBIASED STUDIES OUT THERE ASKING
10:26:31AM QUESTIONS.
10:26:31AM DOES IT LEAD TO OVERPOLICING IN LOW-INCOME BLACK AND BROWN
10:26:37AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:26:37AM ARE THERE OTHER BETTER WAYS TO SPEND THAT MONEY THAT ARE
10:26:41AM MORE EFFECTIVE.
10:26:42AM DOES IT ACHIEVE WHAT THE PURPOSE IS.
10:26:45AM EVERYONE WANTS TO SEE A REDUCTION IN GUN VIOLENCE.
10:26:49AM THE MONEY HAS TO BE SPENT ON PURSUING PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT
10:26:53AM ONLY EFFECTIVE BUT COST EFFECTIVE.
10:26:54AM PLEASE, TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK BEFORE YOU SPEND ANOTHER
10:26:58AM $280,000 ON A TECHNOLOGY THAT IS NOT EFFECTIVE AND MAY BE,
10:27:04AM IN FACT, COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
10:27:05AM OTHER WAYS TO SPEND IT.
10:27:06AM THINGS LIKE POLICE TRAINING FOR INTERACTING WITH SOMEONE
10:27:09AM FACING A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS.
10:27:12AM POLICE TRAINING HOW TO DISPERSE A PEACEFUL PROTEST WITHOUT
10:27:17AM USING TEAR GAS OR CAUSING PHYSICAL INJURY.
10:27:19AM SPEND IT ON BUILDING A RECRUITMENT PROGRAM THAT BUILDS A
10:27:23AM POLICE DEPARTMENT WHICH MIRRORS OUR COMMUNITY.
10:27:25AM THERE IS -- THERE IS AN OP-ED IN TODAY'S PAPER FROM CHIEF
10:27:31AM BERCAW CAW ON THAT.
10:27:33AM I ALSO HAVE SOME GENERAL CONCERN OF THE MILITARIZATION OF
10:27:40AM LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
10:27:40AM THESE ARE SCREEN SHOTS FROM THE YOUTUBE VIDEO.
10:27:44AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TURN ON THE OVERHEAD.
10:27:45AM YES, GO AHEAD.
10:27:46AM >> SCREEN SHOTS OF THE LATEST PD RECRUITMENT VIDEO.
10:27:51AM A CUTE PUPPY DOG.
10:27:52AM SHOTS OF SMILING POLICE OFFICERS.
10:27:55AM BUT OVERALL, THIS THEME ABOUT THE USE OF FORCE.
10:27:57AM THERE IS REALLY A WRONG THEME THAT IT SEEMS IF YOU LOOK AT
10:28:02AM -- IF -- YOU LOOK AT THAT VIDEO, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE
10:28:05AM RECRUITING FOR A MILITARY OCCUPATION.
10:28:07AM THESE ARE NOT THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT PROMOTE THE KIND OF
10:28:14AM POLICE FORCE THAT CHIEF BERCAW IS TALKING ABOUT IN
10:28:20AM THAT OP-ED.
10:28:20AM AGAIN THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT ARE FEATURED IN THAT
10:28:23AM RECRUITMENT VIDEO.
10:28:24AM EVERYBODY -- LOTS OF GUNS.
10:28:27AM EVEN GUYS TALKING STANDING THERE WITH THEIR GUNS.
10:28:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:28:33AM >> LAST ONE.
10:28:34AM THAT'S IT.
10:28:34AM USF.
10:28:36AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:28:39AM AND PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONE.
10:28:42AM >> OH, SORRY.
10:28:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
10:28:44AM GOOD MORNING, STATE YOUR NAME.
10:28:46AM >> CURTIS HICKS, A MEMBER OF DRANA, A BOARD -- WE MET WITH
10:28:50AM YOU A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE NOISE ORDINANCE, AND I
10:28:53AM WANT TO BRING SOMETHING BEFORE THE COUNCIL FOR IMMEDIATE
10:28:56AM INJUNCTION IF WE COULD.
10:28:57AM WE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND
10:29:01AM CONSTRUCTION SERVICES TO LIMIT THEIR ACTIVITIES DOWNTOWN.
10:29:05AM THE COURT, DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, THE ARENA DISTRICT AND CHANNEL
10:29:10AM DISTRICT ALL HAVE A NOISE ORDINANCE FOR QUIET BETWEEN 7 P.M.
10:29:17AM AND 7 A.M.
10:29:18AM WE HAVE UNFORTUNATELY BEEN ABLE TO GET ONE OF THESE CITY
10:29:22AM CONTRACTORS, TAMPA WASTE TO COMPLY WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
10:29:24AM THEY ARE COMING AT 4 A.M. AND DROPPING 600-POUND DUMPSTERS
10:29:28AM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD WAKING UP THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN
10:29:32AM THE PROCESS.
10:29:33AM I INTERFACED WITH THEM AND SPOKE TO THE MANAGEMENT AND THE
10:29:38AM COPY OF THE ORDINANCE THEY ARE WORKING UNDER THAT WAS
10:29:41AM UNFORTUNATELY STRICKEN TWO MONTHS AFTER IT WAS ADOPTED IN
10:29:44AM AUGUST OF 2016.
10:29:44AM THAT ORDINANCE SAY REASONABLE NOISE MADE IN THE DIRECTION OF
10:29:50AM A GOVERNMENT ENTITY AND FACILITY.
10:29:52AM IT WAS ONLY IN EFFECT FOR TWO MONTHS AND TAMPA WASTE IS
10:29:56AM UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT IS THE ORDINANCE THEY CAN WORK
10:30:00AM UNDER.
10:30:00AM CURRENT ORDINANCE HAS MULTIPLE LINES AND OBVIOUSLY I KNOW
10:30:04AM THAT COUNCIL IS UPDATING THESE.
10:30:06AM IF THE SOUND IS CONCURRENT, INTERMITTENT OR THAT JARS
10:30:11AM INJURIES THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF A REASONABLE INDIVIDUAL OF
10:30:15AM ORDINARY SENSIBILITIES.
10:30:16AM I HAVE SEEN NEIGHBORS WAKE UP AT 4:00 IN THE MORNING AND GO
10:30:20AM CONFRONT GARBAGE MEN.
10:30:21AM JUST A PROBLEM WE WANT IMMEDIATE INJUNCTION ON.
10:30:25AM IN MY COMMUNICATION WITH CITY WASTE, THEY SAID THEY WILL
10:30:28AM ONLY ADJUST THE SCHEDULED AT THE DIRECTION OF CITY COUNCIL.
10:30:31AM THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK WITH THAT.
10:30:34AM WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH OUR SUBSEQUENT MEET WITH THE OTHER
10:30:38AM NOISE ORDINANCE ISSUES WE ARE WORKING ON.
10:30:40AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:30:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
10:30:41AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:30:42AM GOOD MORNING, SIR.
10:30:43AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:30:44AM >> GOOD MORNING, JAMES SHAW.
10:30:48AM I LIVE IN WEST TAMPA.
10:30:49AM AN ATTORNEY.
10:30:50AM BACK WHEN ONLY MECHANICS OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT KNEW OF
10:30:54AM THE CRIME FREE MULTIHOUSING PROGRAM, RENTING WHILE BLACK
10:30:58AM PROGRAM.
10:30:58AM THEY DIDN'T SEE ANY PROBLEMS.
10:31:00AM IT MADE CITIZENS FOR THEM TO EVICT A GRANDMOTHER BECAUSE OF
10:31:03AM A PETTY CRIME THAT HER GRANDSON HAS COMMITTED WITHIN THE
10:31:06AM SAME HOUSE HOLD OR EVICT A WOMAN BECAUSE HER DOMESTIC
10:31:11AM PARTNER OR HER HUSBAND AS COMMITTED A DOMESTIC BATTERY ON
10:31:19AM HER AND MADE NUMBERS GO DOWN AND DISCOURAGED HER OF MAKING A
10:31:23AM PHONE CALL.
10:31:24AM WHEN YOUR ONLY METRICS THAT CRIME IS GOING DOWN.
10:31:27AM THINGS MAKE SENSE THAT DON'T MAKE SENSE WHEN WE LOOK AT IT.
10:31:32AM WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE MULTIHOUSING CRIME PROGRAM, IT
10:31:36AM WOULDN'T STAND THE LIGHT OF DAY AND THEY ENDED IT.
10:31:38AM IMPORTANT TO HAVE A DIALOGUE BETWEEN COMMUNITY AND LAW
10:31:42AM ENFORCEMENT.
10:31:42AM NOT A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT MAKE DECISIONS
10:31:45AM WITHIN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT BUBBLE WITHOUT CONSULTING WITH
10:31:47AM THE OUTSIDE.
10:31:48AM SO I WANTED TO TURN THE HOUSE BILL 601.
10:31:51AM PUT IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU.
10:31:52AM YOU HEARD FROM A LEGISLATOR SAYING WHAT HE MEANT FOR IT TO
10:31:57AM SAY.
10:31:57AM WE HAVE ONE MEMBER OF THE BAR ON CITY COUNCIL THAT CAN TELL
10:32:00AM THE REST OF YOU IT IS NOT WHAT IT IS MEANT TO SAY, WHAT IT
10:32:04AM DOES SAY.
10:32:04AM YOU INTERPRET A STATUTE BY ITS WORDS AND YOU DON'T BRING
10:32:08AM MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE TO COURT.
10:32:10AM IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THE CRB IS PROHIBIT PROPOSED REGULAR
10:32:15AM VIEWS CLOSED INVESTIGATIONS.
10:32:17AM FIRST OFF, AN ORDINANCE OF OURS WAS SET UP PURSUANT TO AN
10:32:22AM EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT I SUPPOSE YOU CAN RESCIND BUT HAVEN'T.
10:32:25AM ORDINANCE MEANS THE WHOLE THING YOU CAN IGNORE.
10:32:30AM THE RECEIPT AND PROCESSING OF COMPLAINTS IS MEANT TO BE
10:32:33AM UNIFORM, BUT IT ALREADY WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW
10:32:37AM ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS BILL OF RIGHT AND NO CHANGES THERE.
10:32:40AM INVESTIGATION.
10:32:40AM THE CRB DOES NOT INVESTIGATE.
10:32:43AM IT REVIEWS A CLOSED INVESTIGATION.
10:32:49AM ONCE AN INVESTIGATION IS CLOSED, YOU WILL NOT INVESTIGATING
10:32:52AM ANYMORE.
10:32:53AM YOU WILL HEAR THIS WORD "OVERSIGHT."
10:32:55AM I KNOW YOU WILL SEE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION IN A MINUTE
10:32:59AM AND SHOW YOU THE SLIDE OF THE NATIONAL CIVILIAN OVER LAW
10:33:04AM ENFORCEMENT.
10:33:04AM AND THE FIRST WORD IS "NATIONAL."
10:33:08AM THERE ARE BOARDS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT ACTUALLY DO
10:33:11AM EXERCISE OVERSIGHT OVER LAW ENFORCEMENT.
10:33:12AM YOU KNOW WHAT OVERSIGHT MEANS.
10:33:14AM IF SOMEBODY OVERSEES YOU, THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF CONTROL
10:33:17AM OVER YOU.
10:33:18AM THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF REGULATORY AUTHORITY OVER YOU.
10:33:22AM THE CRB DOES NOT HAVE ANY CONTROL OR REGULATORY AUTHORITY
10:33:28AM OVER THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:33:29AM ALL TO DO IS REVIEW A CLOSED INVESTIGATION.
10:33:33AM AND SAY THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN AND NO EFFECT TO THE THUMBS
10:33:40AM UP OR DOWN.
10:33:42AM WE HAVE A CIVILIAN REVIEW BOARD.
10:33:44AM AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TEXT OF THE ORDINANCE, IT REVIEWS
10:33:47AM CLOSED INVESTIGATIONS.
10:33:49AM ONCE AN INVESTIGATION IS CLOSED YOU ARE NOT INVESTIGATING
10:33:51AM ANYMORE.
10:33:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:33:53AM >> PLEASE READ THE STATUTE FOR WHAT IT ACTUALLY SAID AND NOT
10:33:57AM FOR WHAT SOMEBODY MEANT FOR IT TO SAY.
10:33:59AM THANK YOU.
10:33:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
10:34:00AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:34:01AM >> GOOD MORNING, VALERIE BULLOCK FROM PONCE DE LEON IN
10:34:05AM COLLEGE HILL.
10:34:06AM I WANT TO TALK OF ITEM NUMBER 14, THE GUNFIRE DETECTION
10:34:13AM SYSTEM.
10:34:13AM SOMETHING 280,000 -- SOMETHING THAT THE MONEY COULD BE SPENT
10:34:16AM ON SOMETHING BETTER LIKE HOUSING IN EAST TAMPA, AFFORDABLE
10:34:20AM HOUSING BASED ON YOUR NORTH CAROLINA, WHERE THE TENANTS GET
10:34:27AM AND HAVE SOMEWHERE TO STAY.
10:34:28AM JOB TRAINING SO MAYBE ONE DAY THEY WILL GET A JOB AND AFFORD
10:34:33AM TO RENT SOMEWHERE.
10:34:35AM THAT IS NOT NEEDED HERE.
10:34:37AM WE ALREADY HAVE THINGS IN PLACE, BUTTER IN NOT ENFORCED.
10:34:40AM A LOT OF THE KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE THE GUNS ARE
10:34:44AM 12, 13, 14 YEARS OLD.
10:34:45AM THEY CAN NOT GET A GUN LICENSE?
10:34:48AM HOW ARE THEY GETTING THE GUN, FROM THE GUN OWNERS.
10:34:50AM THEY LEAVE THEM IN THE CAR AND THEIR CAR IS UNLOCKED OR THE
10:34:53AM CAR GETS BROKEN INTO.
10:34:55AM SO IF WE ARREST THE PEOPLE WHO DO THAT DECENT PRACTICE GUN
10:34:59AM SAFETY, IT WILL BE LESS GUNS ON THE STREET.
10:35:02AM SO WE DON'T NEED NOTHING TO SHOW US WHERE THE BULLET COME
10:35:05AM FROM.
10:35:06AM WE KNEW TO ENFORCE THE LAWS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.
10:35:09AM AND I WANT TO TALK OF EAST TAMPA CRA.
10:35:15AM THE OLDEST IN THE COUNTY AND THE MOST DYSFUNCTIONAL ONE THAT
10:35:19AM WE GOT.
10:35:20AM WHY IS EAST TAMPA THE ONLY CRA THAT IS PAYING A POLICE
10:35:26AM OFFICER $200,000 WE ARE YEAR TO AN ENVIRONMENTAL AGENT.
10:35:33AM WHY IS THE JOB NOT CONTRACTED TO AN EAST TAMPA RESIDENT WHO
10:35:36AM CAN HIRE THREE MORE RESIDENTS.
10:35:38AM WE HAVE A LOT OF HAULING COMPANIES WITHIN EAST TAMPA.
10:35:42AM WHY CAN'T EAST TAMPA RESIDENT GET THE POSITION?
10:35:45AM ONCE AGAIN, A BLATANT EXAMPLE OF HOW THE CITY OF TAMPA
10:35:49AM CATERS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:35:50AM IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, SOMEONE WE KNOW AND TRUST WILL
10:35:56AM TAKE PRIDE THAT THEIR JOB AND EDUCATE THE RESIDENCE ON THE
10:35:59AM IMPORTANCE OF REFUSE, REUSE AND RECYCLE.
10:36:02AM THAT PERSON WILL HAVE A SCHEDULED AND GO TO EACH AREA IN
10:36:07AM EAST TAMPA ON A ROTATING BASIS BUILDING PRIDE IN THE
10:36:11AM COMMUNITY.
10:36:13AM AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED INTO.
10:36:16AM IT IS REAL SAD THAT IT APPEARS THAT EAST TAMPA HAS TO BE
10:36:20AM OVERPOLICED IN ALL AREAS.
10:36:21AM THE ONLY CRA THAT HAS THAT POSITION AND A CLOSED PRIVATE
10:36:27AM POSITION.
10:36:28AM YOU CAN'T GET NO PUBLIC INFORMATION IT.
10:36:30AM AND THE JOB CAN ONLY GO TO A RETIRED POLICE OFFICER.
10:36:33AM WHY DID TPD OFFICERS GET POSITIONS THAT ARE MADE JUST FOR
10:36:41AM THEM?
10:36:42AM MISMANAGEMENT OF FUNDS.
10:36:43AM WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND JOB TRAINING.
10:36:45AM WE HAVE MONEY BEING FUNNELED AWAY FROM THE COMMUNITY INTO
10:36:49AM OTHER AREAS.
10:36:50AM THAT IS NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANT OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD
10:36:54AM BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.
10:36:55AM IT IS LIKE A KICKBACK.
10:36:59AM WE NEED FEDERAL OVERSIGHT OF THE EAST TAMPA AND AN
10:37:06AM INVESTIGATION OR CONSENT ORDER.
10:37:08AM CERTAIN SOCIOECONOMIC CLASSES AND PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE BEING
10:37:12AM TARGETED.
10:37:13AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:37:14AM >> THANK YOU.
10:37:15AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:37:16AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:37:18AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:37:19AM >> MY NAME IS COQUILA DUVLIN, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE
10:37:26AM HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE HAVE.
10:37:29AM ME PERSONALLY, MYSELF, HOUSING IS LIFE OR DEATH FOR ME.
10:37:33AM I CANNOT GET A DOUBLE TRANSPLANT KIDNEY AND PANCREAS IF I DO
10:37:39AM NOT HAVE STABLE HOUSING.
10:37:40AM I ALSO HAVE CHILDREN.
10:37:41AM I AM ONLY 33.
10:37:43AM IT'S HARD.
10:37:44AM IT IS HARD FOR ME TO DO ANYTHING THAT I NEED TO DO.
10:37:47AM I LITERALLY CUT MY DIALYSIS TREATMENT 30 MINUTES SHORT TO
10:37:53AM GET HERE AND SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AND OTHERS THAT MAY
10:37:56AM NEED HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:37:58AM YEAH, IT'S -- IT IS JUST VERY HARD WITH THE AMOUNT OF RENT
10:38:14AM THEY WANT YOU TO PAY AND THE COMMUNITIES THEY HAVE THE
10:38:17AM AMOUNTS FOR, BEING HARD EVERYWHERE.
10:38:19AM I, MYSELF, HAVE EXHAUSTED EVERY AGENCY OR COMMUNITY RESOURCE
10:38:26AM THAT WE HAVE.
10:38:27AM I HAVE EXHAUSTED EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.
10:38:30AM AND I CANNOT GET ANY HELP.
10:38:32AM AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THIS IS -- THIS IS -- IS INHUMANE.
10:38:37AM I -- I DON'T -- THAT THE POINT, I AM NOT EVEN SURE WHAT ELSE
10:38:42AM TO DO.
10:38:43AM AND LIKE I SAID, THIS IS WHY I CAME HERE TODAY TO SEE IF WE
10:38:46AM CAN GET SOMETHING DONE ABOUT THIS.
10:38:48AM BECAUSE I KNOW I AM NOT THE ONLY THE ONE.
10:38:50AM MAYBE I AM THE ONLY ONE WITH THE KNOWLEDGE TO COME HERE AND
10:38:53AM SPEAK ON BEHALF OF EVERYONE, BUT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE IN
10:38:56AM THIS SITUATION.
10:38:56AM AND SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE.
10:39:01AM THERE ARE MONEY BEING SPENT ON THINGS LIKE A LOBBY OF A
10:39:06AM TRAIN STATION WHEN I AM HOMELESS.
10:39:08AM I HAVE A DISABLED CHILD ALSO WITH ME.
10:39:12AM I HAVE TWO CHILDREN.
10:39:14AM ONE OF THEM IS DISABLED.
10:39:16AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT.
10:39:19AM AS FAR AS WHAT CAN ACTUALLY BE DONE WITH THE RESOURCES OR
10:39:22AM THE MONEY THAT WE ARE GETTING FOR THE CITY.
10:39:25AM SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.
10:39:27AM THANK YOU.
10:39:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:39:31AM CHIEF BENNETT, CAN YOU EXCHANGE -- GET HER INFORMATION AS
10:39:39AM WELL, SIR.
10:39:40AM HOME RUN THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
10:39:46AM YES, MA'AM, GOOD MORNING.
10:39:48AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:39:49AM KIMBERLY WARD.
10:39:50AM AND I AM ON BEHALF OF HOUSING.
10:39:52AM AND IT IS JUST LIKE -- YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE AT WALMART,
10:40:00AM IN STATIONS, IN CARS, RESTAURANTS.
10:40:03AM I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE SEEN ME.
10:40:05AM IF YOU GO TO BURGER KING OR, YOU KNOW, YOUR NEXT VISIT OF
10:40:11AM THE WALMART.
10:40:12AM LOOK IN THE BACK -- LOOK IN THE BACK OF WALMART.
10:40:15AM LOOK AROUND YOU.
10:40:16AM SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS.
10:40:18AM BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT DAMN, THAT
10:40:22AM PERSON NEEDS HOUSING.
10:40:24AM THAT PERSON NEEDS THIS.
10:40:25AM WHY -- WHY ARE WE LETTING ALL THESE MONIES GO TO WASTE FOR
10:40:33AM JUST -- I AM TALKING IN GENERAL IN PUBLIC.
10:40:36AM I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT BLACK, WHITE AND INDIFFERENT, I AM
10:40:39AM TALKING OF ALL OF US.
10:40:40AM LET US A OF US GET ALONG AND TRY TO HELP PEOPLE.
10:40:46AM I HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING FOR A LONG TIME TO GET ON SECTION 8.
10:40:50AM Y'ALL HAVE BEEN SAYING TWO YEARS, TWO YEARS, TWO YEARS.
10:40:53AM WHEN IS IT GOING TO OPEN AGAIN FOR US IN FLORIDA?
10:40:57AM WHEN IS IT GOING TO REALLY OPEN RIGHT HERE IN TAMPA FOR US?
10:41:02AM PEOPLE.
10:41:03AM PEOPLE IN GENERAL.
10:41:04AM OLDER.
10:41:05AM YOUNGER.
10:41:06AM PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREETS.
10:41:08AM I SEE YOUNG BABIES OUT IN A CAR.
10:41:12AM ACTUAL CAR.
10:41:13AM SLEEPING IN CARS.
10:41:14AM WHAT -- WHAT -- WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO GET THESE OPENINGS
10:41:20AM UP FOR US.
10:41:23AM PEOPLE.
10:41:23AM THE PEOPLE.
10:41:24AM THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING AT, THE PEOPLE.
10:41:28AM YOU SEE THESE PEOPLE.
10:41:29AM Y'ALL NEED TO LOOK AT IT.
10:41:30AM Y'ALL NEED TO LOOK AT THIS.
10:41:32AM WHEN YOU GO SHOPPING THE NEXT TIME.
10:41:34AM OR YOU ARE TAKING YOUR KIDS TO THE PARK OR SOMETHING.
10:41:38AM LOOK AT THESE PEOPLE.
10:41:39AM THEY ARE -- WE ARE STRUGGLING.
10:41:42AM WE ARE STRUGGLING AS A PEOPLE.
10:41:44AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
10:41:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:41:50AM YES, MA'AM.
10:41:51AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:42:16AM MY NAME IS ARLENE MURRAY.
10:42:19AM I AM 83 YEARS OLD.
10:42:21AM I HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT.
10:42:27AM I AM A RESIDENT HERE FOR 30 YEARS.
10:42:30AM I WAS BORN IN NEW YORK CITY.
10:42:33AM I AM NOW YOUR CITY.
10:42:38AM I AM SORRY YOU CANNOT HEAR ME WELL.
10:42:41AM I HAD TWO STROKES, SO, THEREFORE, IT IMPEDED MY SPEECH.
10:42:48AM I WANT TO KNOW, WHY IS FLORIDA -- FLORIDA SO BACKWARDS?
10:42:58AM WHY IS FLORIDA SO BACKWARDS WITH THE PEOPLE.
10:43:06AM AND PEOPLE, PEOPLE OF COLOR.
10:43:10AM WHY?
10:43:11AM WHAT YOU SO BACKWARDS?
10:43:14AM I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND.
10:43:16AM I GO TO THE STORE.
10:43:18AM I AM TREATED LIKE I AM -- LIKE I AM TRASH.
10:43:23AM NOT ONLY BY WHITES BY SPANISH, BY OTHER PEOPLE.
10:43:31AM I GO TO GET A JOB, AND I AM TREATED NOT NICE.
10:43:40AM I GO TO GET A HOME, I CAN'T GET A HOME.
10:43:44AM BECAUSE OF MY INCOME.
10:43:56AM WHY?
10:43:58AM THE QUESTION IS, WHY IS FLORIDA SO BACKWARDS?
10:44:04AM COULD SOMEONE GIVE ME AN ANSWER?
10:44:07AM CAN SOMEONE GIVE ME AN ANSWER YOUR SO BACKWARDS.
10:44:13AM YOU COME TO CALIFORNIA, THEY ARE ALL AHEAD OF YOU.
10:44:21AM THEY ARE ALL AHEAD OF YOU.
10:44:23AM SOME WOULD LOVE TO SAY BUT I WILL NOT SAY THEM HERE AND KEEP
10:44:33AM IT TO MYSELF.
10:44:34AM KEEP IT TO MYSELF BECAUSE YOU ARE SO BACKWARDS.
10:44:40AM SOURCE IMPAIRED.
10:44:42AM YOU TREAT YOUR -- YOUR -- YOUR NEIGHBORS -- THANK YOU.
10:44:49AM I WILL LEAVE NOW.
10:44:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE 30 MORE SECONDS.
10:44:53AM >> I -- CAN I NOT TALK TOO MUCH LONGER BECAUSE OF MY
10:44:59AM IMPEDIMENT.
10:45:00AM BUT I WOULD LIKE ANSWERS.
10:45:02AM THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW.
10:45:04AM WHY YOU -- WHY YOU HAVE BABIES LIVING OUT ON THE STREET.
10:45:10AM YOU HAVE LITTLE KIDS LIVING OUT ON THE STREET IN -- THANK
10:45:21AM YOU.
10:45:21AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
10:45:22AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:23AM GOOD MORNING, MA'AM.
10:45:36AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:45:37AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:45:38AM CONNIE BURTON.
10:45:41AM I AM SO THANKFUL YOUNG PEOPLE ARE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY.
10:45:44AM THE MAYOR'S COUNCIL.
10:45:48AM SO THEY WILL SEE A CITY THAT THEY WILL INHERIT.
10:45:51AM THE ARE THE PEOPLE.
10:45:58AM THE PEOPLE WHO COME DOWN HERE AND TALK ABOUT THE ONGOING
10:46:01AM CRISIS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND YET THIS AGENDA DON'T REFLECT
10:46:05AM THAT YOU UNDERSTAND ANY OF IT.
10:46:06AM SEVEN COMMITTEES.
10:46:08AM I LOOKED THROUGH THE AGENDA AND I SAID, WELL, HOW DO
10:46:11AM AFRICAN-AMERICANS IN THIS CITY, POOR PEOPLE IN THIS CITY,
10:46:16AM ECONOMICALLY BENEFIT?
10:46:18AM HOW DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT IS NOW MOVING TOWARD COMMITTEES
10:46:22AM TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING THAT HOUSING CRISIS WILL NOT
10:46:28AM BE SOLVED UNLESS WE CAN BUILD FROM THE FOUNDATION UP
10:46:32AM ECONOMICALLY.
10:46:33AM THE REFUSAL FOR YOU TO DO JUST SOME OF THE MINIMAL STUFF.
10:46:37AM SO WE TALK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:46:40AM WE WATCH HOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:46:42AM THE WORDING GETS HIJACKED.
10:46:44AM GO FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO WORKFORCE HOUSING TO STUDENT
10:46:48AM HOUSING.
10:46:49AM I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU A NEW WORD THIS MORNING.
10:46:51AM AND LET'S TALK ABOUT GENOCIDE.
10:46:55AM PURPOSELY KILLING OFF.
10:46:57AM WHEN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE DIGNITY.
10:46:59AM PEOPLE DON'T HAVE HOPE.
10:47:01AM WHEN YOUNG PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN UP.
10:47:03AM WHEN WE SEE OUR COMMUNITY BEING DISMANTLED WITH
10:47:09AM GENTRIFICATION AND ALL RIGHT BY Y'ALL, BECAUSE YOU STILL
10:47:13AM APPROVE DEVELOPERS THAT YOU GIVE THESE LOW-INCOME LOANS TO
10:47:17AM FOR 100 YEARS, BUT YET, STILL, YOU CAN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT HOW
10:47:22AM TO DO A SIMPLE STUDIO APARTMENT.
10:47:25AM MAMA AND DAUGHTER BEGGING FOR HOUSING.
10:47:30AM A YOUNG WOMAN TALKING ABOUT A LIFE AND DEATH SITUATION ON
10:47:33AM DIALYSIS.
10:47:34AM LIVING OUT OF A CAR.
10:47:36AM SO WE DID A LITTLE WORKSHOP -- COMMUNITY WORKSHOP, WE SAID,
10:47:41AM HEY, LET'S HEAR ABOUT WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE, BECAUSE
10:47:45AM HONESTLY OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS DON'T GET IT.
10:47:48AM BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU, MOVING FORWARD -- THAT IS ALL YOU ARE
10:47:55AM GOING TO HEAR FROM US, HOUSING CRISIS.
10:47:57AM IF WE HAVE TO COME IN FRONT OF YOUR FRONT DOOR, THAT IS ALL
10:48:01AM YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR.
10:48:02AM HOUSING.
10:48:02AM HOUSING CRISIS.
10:48:04AM NOT THE ONES THAT THE EAST TAMPA CRA IS NOW JUST BUYING
10:48:11AM PROPERTY OR ASSIMILATING PROPERTY.
10:48:14AM WE ARE WATCHING THE TOP TIER OF THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT, THE
10:48:18AM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT FROM NICOLE TRAVIS ON DOWN
10:48:23AM ABANDON AND LEAVE THEIR JOBS.
10:48:25AM THEY CAN COME HERE AND SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT TO.
10:48:27AM PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO GO.
10:48:28AM WHY ARE WE GOING WHEN WE HAVE SUCH A SERIOUS CRISIS IN THIS
10:48:34AM COMMUNITY.
10:48:35AM WHEN THE MAYOR GO, MANY OF HER SENIOR STAFF WILL GO.
10:48:38AM I DO KNOW THIS.
10:48:39AM SOME OF YOU MAY WANT TO CONTINUE ON WITH YOUR POLITICAL
10:48:43AM CAREER.
10:48:43AM AND YOU BETTER BE CAUTIOUS BECAUSE WE TOLD YOU REPEATEDLY
10:48:48AM AND YOU HAVE COME TO OUR COMMUNITY SAYING ALL THIS DEAL WITH
10:48:51AM THE ISSUES AND DAMN IT, YOU HAVEN'T.
10:48:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:48:54AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:48:56AM GOOD MORNING.
10:48:57AM >> TASIA STAGG, GOOD MORNING, THANK YOU.
10:49:04AM A FAMILY WHO LIVES NEXT DOOR TO MY HOUSE WHO ORCHESTRATED
10:49:09AM THREE FALSE PROSECUTION OF ME ENJOYING SPECIAL TREATMENT BY
10:49:14AM YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
10:49:14AM SPENT TIME SHINING LASERS AT MY FACE AND MY DOG'S FACE AND
10:49:19AM LIED UNDER OATH TO DEFAME ME INCLUDING MY HEARING HERE IN
10:49:23AM SEPTEMBER TO DISCOURAGE ME POSSESSION TO HIDE FROM HER
10:49:26AM FAMILY AND THE ACCOMPLICES THEY ACT OUT AGAINST ME.
10:49:29AM IN FEBRUARY, DAYS AFTER THE SECOND DEVASTATING ABATEMENT OF
10:49:35AM MY FLORIDA FRIENDLY LANDSCAPE, CALLED IN A COMPLAINT TO CODE
10:49:41AM ENFORCEMENT.
10:49:42AM MARCH, INSPECTION, NO VIOLATION.
10:49:43AM APRIL, IDENTIFY COMPLAINT.
10:49:46AM CONTACTED THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR SPECIAL TREATMENT.
10:49:48AM NO VIOLATIONS AMONG HER COMPLAINTS BUT OBLIGATED TO FIND
10:49:52AM SOMETHING WRONG AND OPENED NEW SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT CASES.
10:49:55AM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENHANCEMENT CREW WAS ORDERED TO ACT OUT
10:49:59AM AGAINST ME FOR THE THIRD TIME I AM AWARE OF.
10:50:01AM AT THE BEHEST OF MY TORMENTERS, SHREDDED THE CODE COMPLAINT
10:50:07AM ANY I HAVE IT PLANTS BETWEEN THE SIDEWALKS AND ROAD LIKE I
10:50:12AM SAID BEFORE, MOWING NATIVE PLANTS DOWN TO THE SOIL SERVICE
10:50:15AM IS NOT AN ENHANCEMENT TO ANY NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:50:17AM REPLACING LUSH NATIVE FLOWERING PLANTS WITH BARE DIRT, MUD
10:50:24AM DOES NOT MAKE THE CITY LOOK GOOD.
10:50:26AM REDUCED THE HEIGHT OF THE PRIVACY HEDGE AND REMOVED ALL OF
10:50:32AM THE LIMBS SHADING THE SIDEWALK.
10:50:33AM THEY ALSO MOVED SEVEN GREEN FRONDS FROM THE PALMETTOS ON THE
10:50:40AM RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ATTACK OF THE APPEARANCE AND THE VALUE THE
10:50:44AM WILDLIFE AND VIOLATION OF INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
10:50:46AM NONE OF THIS WAS NECESSARY.
10:50:47AM AND ABSOLUTELY FOOLISH TO REMOVE SHADE ANYWHERE, ESPECIALLY
10:50:51AM FROM A SIDEWALK.
10:50:51AM ADDITIONALLY OBEYING THE DEMAND OF MY TORMENTERS WILL
10:50:55AM ENCOURAGE THEM OF THEIR CAMPAIGN AGAINST ME AND A MISUSE OF
10:50:59AM CITY RESOURCES.
10:51:00AM THIS IS EVIL.
10:51:01AM PLEASE HELP.
10:51:02AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:51:11AM MISS LOCKETT.
10:51:13AM GOOD MORNING.
10:51:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:51:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:51:17AM >> YOU ALREADY SAID IT.
10:51:19AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:51:21AM A LOT GOING ON TODAY.
10:51:23AM AND COUNCIL IS FULL, FULL OF EMOTIONS.
10:51:27AM NOT ONE, NOT TWO, BUT THREE.
10:51:33AM PEOPLE HAVE RESIGNED WITHIN THE LAST ONE OR TWO MONTHS.
10:51:38AM VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE.
10:51:40AM PEOPLE THAT I WAS EXCITED ABOUT DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
10:51:48AM CREATING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
10:51:49AM CREATING SOMETHING SUSTAINABLE.
10:51:51AM THAT THE CITY CAN CONTINUE IN THE NEAR FUTURE, RIGHT.
10:51:57AM ALTHOUGH I AM SAD, I DO UNDERSTAND.
10:52:01AM THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE MIST ABOUT CULTURE.
10:52:08AM AND WITH THE CITY -- THE CITY HAS A CERTAIN CULTURE.
10:52:13AM AND -- AND WITH THAT CULTURE -- THE CITY IS GOING TO REALIZE
10:52:22AM THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO STAND -- STAY IN ONE PLACE AND
10:52:29AM GET ABUSED.
10:52:30AM GET NEGLECTED.
10:52:32AM GET -- ALL OF THE BAD THINGS, RIGHT.
10:52:35AM THEY ARE NOT GOING -- THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO IT.
10:52:38AM ONCE UPON A TIME WHEN I WAS GROWING UP AND I WAS GETTING A
10:52:42AM JOB, I WAS TAUGHT -- ALTHOUGH I DIDN'T DO IT.
10:52:45AM I WAS TAUGHT.
10:52:47AM GET A JOB.
10:52:48AM LOOK FOR RETIREMENT.
10:52:50AM STAY THERE FOR 30 YEARS.
10:52:52AM WHAT THE CITY AND EVERYBODY ELSE HAVE TO REALIZE THESE --
10:52:56AM GENERATION NOW, THEY ARE NOT DOING IT.
10:52:57AM IF THEY DON'T LIKE HOW THEY ARE BEING TREATED.
10:53:01AM IF THEY -- IF -- IF ANYTHING IS WRONG THAT THEY CAN NOT
10:53:07AM HANDLE OR THEY DON'T WANT TO HANDLE -- NOT EVEN CAN'T, THEY
10:53:11AM DON'T WANT TO HANDLE.
10:53:16AM PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THOSE THINGS FIRST.
10:53:19AM HOW DOES THE CITY CHANGE THAT CULTURE HOW DOES THE CITY
10:53:24AM CHANGE THAT CULTURE.
10:53:25AM YOU ARE LOSING THREE VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE AND IT IS SAD.
10:53:29AM NO MATTER WHAT ROAD MAP THEY CREATED.
10:53:31AM AND NO MATTER WHAT THEY BEGAN TO PUT IN -- BECAUSE THEY
10:53:34AM HAVEN'T FINISHED -- BEGAN TO PUT IN PLACE.
10:53:36AM PEOPLE HAVE TO THE WILL TO FINISH THAT WORK AND THE HEART TO
10:53:42AM FINISH THAT WORK AND THAT IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT.
10:53:44AM I AM SAD BECAUSE OF THAT.
10:53:46AM WORK AROUND HOUSING.
10:53:47AM IT IS A HOUSING CRISIS.
10:53:48AM NO IFs, ANDs OR BUTs ABOUT IT.
10:53:52AM SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE AND IT.
10:53:54AM QUICKLY, NUMBER 93 IS COMING UP.
10:53:57AM THE CITY HAS THE ENJOYMENT IN SPEAKING WITH -- DURING PUBLIC
10:54:04AM COMMENTS WITH THE CITY IS THAT THE CITY ALLOWS PEOPLE TO
10:54:06AM COME AND SPEAK.
10:54:07AM THEY DON'T KICK -- DON'T HANDCUFF PEOPLE.
10:54:11AM THEY DON'T CUT TIME.
10:54:13AM IF THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU GUY ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE
10:54:17AM THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT AND SPEAK.
10:54:19AM CUTTING THE TIME DOWN TO TWO MINUTES BECAUSE THERE ARE 50
10:54:23AM PEOPLE IN LINE.
10:54:23AM CURBING YOURSELF TO WHAT THE CITY -- I MEAN WHAT THE COUNTY
10:54:26AM AND THE SCHOOL BOARD DOES I THINK WOULD BE AN INJUSTICE TO
10:54:29AM WHAT THE CITY STANDS FOR.
10:54:30AM YOU ALLOW PEOPLE TO SPEAK OPENLY AND SPEAK ALOUD.
10:54:37AM AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT BEING THE PLACE IN -- BEING
10:54:41AM SUSTAINABLE.
10:54:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
10:54:44AM THAT CONCLUDES IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:54:47AM WE ARE GOING TO GO TO THE REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
10:54:51AM NATALIE IS THE FIRST SPEAKER.
10:54:53AM IS NATALIE ON?
10:54:54AM OKAY.
10:54:55AM NATALIE, IF YOU ARE ON.
10:55:03AM PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:55:04AM STATE YOUR NAME.
10:55:05AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:55:06AM NATALIE, IF YOU WERE ON, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF.
10:55:19AM ALL RIGHT.
10:55:26AM WE WILL GO -- WE WILL COME BACK TO NATALIE.
10:55:28AM ANGEL DEANGELO.
10:55:32AM IF YOU ARE ON.
10:55:35AM >>CLERK: HE IS CURRENTLY NOT LOGGED ON.
10:55:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MICHAEL RANDOLPH, UNMUTE YOURSELF
10:55:40AM AND STATE YOUR NAME.
10:55:41AM >> YES.
10:55:42AM GOOD MORNING.
10:55:42AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
10:55:44AM I AM WITH THE WEST TAMPA CAC.
10:55:49AM I AM DOING A FOLLOW-UP OF OUR LAST CONVERSATION ABOUT THE
10:55:52AM COMMITTEE BENEFIT AGREEMENT.
10:55:54AM SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE PROGRAM.
10:55:56AM THE PROGRAM THAT WE ARE GOING TO LAUNCH IS KNOWN AS THE
10:55:59AM "WEST TAMPA WAY TO CONNECT OPPORTUNITY DASHBOARD."
10:56:04AM IT IS GOING TO BE ONE BY ARTERIAL BRT STUDY.
10:56:07AM WILL HAVE TWO DATABASES.
10:56:10AM ONE DATABASE ARE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN WEST TAMPA THE SECOND
10:56:14AM DATABASE IS ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT -- IN WEST TAMPA THAT
10:56:19AM CONNECT.
10:56:20AM RELATED TO THE RESIDENT SIDE OF THE TABLE, WE ARE TALKING OF
10:56:23AM PROVIDING JOB OPPORTUNITY, JOB TRAINING AND JOB SKILLS.
10:56:28AM CONNECT TO OPEN JOBS IN WEST TAMPA BY LOCAL BUSINESSES.
10:56:34AM IT IS OVER 100-PLUS BUSINESSES IN WEST TAMPA.
10:56:38AM NOT ONLY WILL RESIDENTS IN GENERAL BE ABLE TO CONNECT, BUT
10:56:41AM WE ALSO WILL BE CONNECTING YOUTH TO SUMMER JOBS IN WEST
10:56:45AM TAMPA.
10:56:46AM THIS ADDITION TO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO LEARN SKILL TRAINING
10:56:51AM ON HOW TO DO.
10:56:52AM FOLLOWED BY ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND WILL HELP PRODUCE
10:57:01AM THAT PROFESSIONAL RESUME AND SHOW THEM HOW TO DO A JOB
10:57:05AM INTERVIEW.
10:57:06AM NOT ONLY WILL THEY BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO LOCAL JOBS, BUT
10:57:09AM ALSO, STATE AND NATIONAL JOBS AS WELL.
10:57:13AM I CAN'T OVEREMPHASIZE CONNECTING YOUNG PEOPLE TO JOBS.
10:57:17AM THE SECOND PART IS THE BUSINESS SIDE OF THE TABLE WHERE
10:57:22AM RESIDENTS WILL BE CONNECTED TO BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT WEST
10:57:25AM TAMPA.
10:57:25AM AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF BUSINESSES IN WEST
10:57:28AM TAMPA.
10:57:29AM THIS WILL CONNECT RESIDENTS TO BUSINESSES AND INCREASE THE
10:57:32AM OVERALL PROFIT FOR BUSINESSES.
10:57:35AM IN ADDITION TO CREDIBLE PROCUREMENT IS GOING TO BE TAUGHT
10:57:40AM THERE AS WELL.
10:57:41AM AND ANOTHER UNIQUE THING IS RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO RATE
10:57:46AM THE BUSINESSES IN WEST TAMPA TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE MEETING
10:57:50AM THE NEEDS OF WEST TAMPA.
10:57:51AM SO I DID SEND YOU A VIDEO FROM A GUY, CHARLES ADAMS.
10:57:57AM IN SULPHUR SPRINGS.
10:58:00AM WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE SULPHUR SPRINGS GROUP TO PUT
10:58:03AM TOGETHER -- WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED A NONPROFIT.
10:58:07AM BUT WITH MR. ADAMS.
10:58:10AM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WANT TO CREATE A TABLE TO PROMOTE
10:58:14AM CHANGE FROM WITHIN USING BEST PRACTICES AS WELL AS NATIONAL
10:58:18AM FUNDING TO WORK WITH THAT OPTION.
10:58:21AM NOTHING LIKE BEING AT THE HEAD OF THE TABLE WHEN YOU ARE A
10:58:25AM NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP.
10:58:25AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
10:58:28AM SHARE MY THOUGHTS WITH YOU.
10:58:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
10:58:36AM NATALIE, UNMUTE YOURSELF AND STATE YOUR NAME.
10:58:40AM YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
10:58:41AM NATALIE.
10:58:42AM NATALIE, ARE YOU ON?
10:58:59AM WE CAN HEAR YOU.
10:59:00AM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
10:59:01AM GO AHEAD.
10:59:02AM NATALIE.
10:59:09AM YOU ARE GOOD TO GO.
10:59:11AM STATE YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD.
10:59:13AM THIS IS YOUR TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:59:15AM ONE MORE TIME.
10:59:22AM NATALIE, IF YOU CAN HEAR US, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
10:59:26AM AND THIS IS YOUR TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:59:28AM ALL RIGHT.
10:59:32AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:59:33AM THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:59:36AM AT THIS TIME, WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER 45.
10:59:40AM CHIEF BENNETT, IF YOU WANT TO KICK IT OFF.
10:59:42AM >>JOHN BENNETT: GOOD MORNING, AGAIN, COUNCIL.
10:59:54AM JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
10:59:56AM GOOD MORNING TO OUR PUBLIC.
10:59:57AM AS MENTIONED ON MAY 16 DURING THE ADMINISTRATIVE UPDATE, THE
11:00:02AM ADMINISTRATION WAS ABLE TO REPLACE RUSSELL HALPERT AFTER HE
11:00:08AM RETIRED FROM OUR TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION DEPARTMENT.
11:00:10AM MOST OF THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT AS E.T. OR INFORMATION
11:00:13AM TECHNOLOGY.
11:00:14AM THE MAYOR IS HONORED TO NOMINATE ERIC HAYDEN WHO HAS BEEN
11:00:21AM WITH THE CITY SINCE 1986.
11:00:23AM AND HE HAS PROGRESSIVELY WORKED IN THESE ROLES IN OUR TN I
11:00:28AM DEPARTMENT AS OUR NEW TECHNOLOGY CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER
11:00:31AM AND DIRECTOR OF WHAT WE WOULD CALL TECHNOLOGY AND
11:00:34AM INNOVATION.
11:00:34AM HE HAS MASTER'S DEGREE.
11:00:36AM HE IS OBVIOUSLY WELL -- HE COMPETED WELL AGAINST 93 OTHER
11:00:47AM CANDIDATES NATIONWIDE AND FOR HIS JOURNEY TO BE NOMINATE BY
11:00:51AM THE MAYOR FOR THE POTENTIAL APPOINTMENT FROM COUNCIL.
11:00:53AM AS ALWAYS, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR SUPPORT DURING THIS
11:00:58AM PROCESS.
11:00:58AM AND THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION OF THE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS
11:01:01AM HIS VITAE HAVE BEEN ON BASIN THE AGENDA ITEM WAS
11:01:05AM ESTABLISHED.
11:01:06AM HE IS JOINED HERE TODAY BY HIS FAMILY THAT I WILL LET HIM
11:01:10AM INTRODUCE AND HIS SENIOR LEADERSHIP TEAM.
11:01:12AM WITH THAT, I WILL SEND IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
11:01:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:01:16AM MR. HAYDEN, ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY?
11:01:19AM >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
11:01:21AM I AM ERIC HAYDEN WITH TNI.
11:01:25AM I HAVE BEEN WITH SEVERAL DIFFERENT ROLES WITH I.T., HELPED
11:01:29AM OVER CUSTOMER AND EVERY CITIZEN AS FAR AS OUR COMMUNITIES,
11:01:31AM AND ALSO THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENTS.
11:01:33AM WE ARE BIG WITH BUSINESS, PROCESS IMPROVEMENT AND WE DON'T
11:01:42AM HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO DO THINGS, SO WE MAKE SURE ALL
11:01:45AM DEPARTMENTS GET WHAT THEY CAN WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.
11:01:47AM I STAND BEFORE YOU NOMINATED BY THE MAYOR AND CHIEF OF
11:01:50AM STAFF'S HONOR.
11:01:51AM AND I APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE AND CONSIDERATION FOR MY
11:01:53AM APPOINTMENT.
11:01:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
11:01:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:01:59AM CURIOSITY FROM '86 TO NOW.
11:02:02AM 38 YEARS.
11:02:03AM YOU HAVE BEEN HERE A LITTLE LONGER THAN MOST OF US.
11:02:05AM AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE AND WHAT YOUR STAFF HAS
11:02:08AM DONE.
11:02:08AM AND TAKES COOPERATION OF EVERYONE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT WORKING
11:02:13AM WITH EVERYONE AND WORKING WITH THE CITY OVER 4,000 OF US.
11:02:17AM AND YOU GOT A VERY DIFFICULT JOB.
11:02:18AM BECAUSE YOU GOT THESE COMPUTERS EVERYWHERE.
11:02:21AM AND SOMETIMES THEY WORK.
11:02:22AM AND SOMETIMES IT -- THE COMPUTER.
11:02:25AM SOMETIMES IT IS THE OPERATOR.
11:02:27AM THIS MY CASE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY BECAUSE I DON'T DO ANY
11:02:31AM OF THAT.
11:02:31AM ONE LESS PROBLEM THAT YOU HAVE.
11:02:33AM BUT I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR EMPLOYEES WHEN WE CALL AND THEY
11:02:37AM SHOW UP AND THEY FIX IT.
11:02:40AM THEY ADDRESS HOW TO FIX IT AND WITH THAT, I APPLAUD TO YOU
11:02:44AM AND YOUR DEPARTMENT FOR WHAT YOU DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
11:02:47AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
11:02:49AM AND I MOVE THE RECOMMENDATION.
11:02:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND CARLSON.
11:02:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:02:55AM I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT YOUR NOMINATION.
11:02:57AM YOU AND I HAD QUITE A FEW CONVERSATION ABOUT MANY DIFFERENT
11:03:00AM THINGS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT YOU ANSWER
11:03:04AM MEMBER PRESIDENT OF COMMUNITY'S QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW CERTAIN
11:03:12AM THINGS ARE RUN AND YOU ARE OPEN TO -- TO LISTENING AND
11:03:15AM OPENING TO CHANGING THINGS AND ALSO THAT YOU AND YOUR TEAM
11:03:19AM ARE WORKING SO HARD TO TRY TO MODERNIZE A BIG, GIANT,
11:03:23AM DIFFICULT TO CHANGE AGENCY LIKE ANY TYPE OF GOVERNMENT, BUT
11:03:28AM FOR US, PARTICULARLY, AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE WAY THAT YOU
11:03:32AM ARE TRYING TO DRAG THE CITY KICKING AND SCREAMING INTO THE
11:03:36AM 1st CENTURY.
11:03:37AM ONE OF THOSE THINGS -- I WILL PUT YOU ON THE SPOT RIGHT
11:03:40AM HERE, BECAUSE -- BECAUSE YOU ARE HERE TODAY.
11:03:42AM YOU AND I HAVE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY.
11:03:46AM WHILE I WAS GONE, COUNCIL VOTED TO USE COMMENT CARDS AND
11:03:51AM LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TIME PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO SPEAK DURING
11:03:55AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
11:03:55AM AND REALLY, THE MAIN ISSUE IS, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE'S NAMES.
11:04:00AM AND MAKING SURE THEY ARE SPELLED CORRECTLY FOR THE CLERK AND
11:04:04AM FOR THE CHAIR.
11:04:05AM SO REALLY, WHAT -- WHAT I HAVE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT, AND WHAT
11:04:10AM MY AIDE TULLY TALKED TO YOU ABOUT IS THE ACT TO HAVE
11:04:16AM TECHNOLOGY HERE IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS SO PEOPLE CAN TYPE IN
11:04:20AM THEIR INFORMATION AND ALL OF THAT IS AVAILABLE.
11:04:22AM YOU AND I TALKED OF THE POSSIBILITY TO DO THAT PRETTY SOON.
11:04:25AM CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
11:04:27AM >> SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
11:04:29AM WHAT THE COUNCILWOMAN IS REFERRING TO A SIGN-UP ROUTINE WITH
11:04:33AM A KIOSK.
11:04:34AM WE HAVE A PILOT -- WE PROTOTYPED A SOLUTION THAT WE ARE
11:04:38AM HAVING READY FOR REVIEW.
11:04:39AM AT COUNCIL'S PLEASURE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF IT
11:04:45AM SUIT PURPOSES.
11:04:46AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK HAD A GOOD IDEA OF STARTING WITH MAYBE A
11:04:49AM SMALL GROUP BEFORE WE GO INTO A LARGER GROUP WITH MUCH MORE
11:04:52AM DENSER POPULATION.
11:04:53AM BUT WHAT THIS WOULD BE IS A SIMPLE WEB PORTAL.
11:04:56AM A KIOSK THAT PEOPLE CAN TYPE IN THEIR NAMES.
11:05:00AM TYPE IN THE ITEM THEY ARE WORKING ON AND SO FORTH.
11:05:02AM AN INTERNAL DEVELOPMENT TYPE OF THING.
11:05:04AM REAL EASY TO DO.
11:05:06AM IT CAN BE DONE QUICKLY AND NEED COUNCIL'S LOOK, TAKE A PEEK
11:05:12AM AND IF THEY LIKE IT, WE CAN DEPLOY IT.
11:05:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I LIKE TO MOVE BEFORE WE MOVE HIM IS TO TRY
11:05:19AM THIS AT THE JUNE 27th WORKSHOP.
11:05:23AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL WAIT UNTIL WE EVEN TALK TO THIS
11:05:29AM ITEM WITH MR. SHELBY AND IF YOU WANT TO HOLD THAT MOTION
11:05:32AM UNTIL LATER ON.
11:05:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
11:05:34AM BUT EITHER WAY.
11:05:35AM I AM THRILLED TO KNOW THAT -- THAT WHEN THERE IS -- WHEN
11:05:39AM THERE IS THE PROBLEM THAT YOUR TEAM IS FOLLOWING FIND A
11:05:42AM SOLUTION AND I THINK THAT IS PHENOMENAL.
11:05:44AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:05:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILMAN
11:05:50AM CLENDENIN.
11:05:50AM >>BILL CARLSON: I FULLY SUPPORT MR. HAYDEN HE AND HIS
11:05:55AM PREDECESSOR AND HIS STAFF HAVE ALWAYS BEEN RESPONSIVE AND
11:05:58AM EXCELLENT.
11:05:58AM I KNOW Y'ALL ARE DOING A LOT OF HARD WORK TO MIGRATE.
11:06:05AM WE WENT FROM ONE VERSION AND TRYING TO DO THAT WITH OTHER
11:06:09AM SYSTEMS AS WELL.
11:06:11AM I DIDN'T HAVE IS A CHANCE TO MEET WITH YOU BECAUSE I WAS
11:06:14AM OVERSEAS BUT I HAVE WANT TO CATCH UP WITH YOU SOON.
11:06:17AM AT THE CONFERENCE ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT EVERYBODY WAS
11:06:21AM TALKING ABOUT AND HAS BEEN FOR YEARS THE CYBERSECURITY AND
11:06:26AM SO MANY GOVERNMENTS HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN BY RANSOMWARE AND
11:06:31AM OTHER PROBLEMS.
11:06:32AM KNOCK ON WOOD IN FIVE YEARS THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED AND I PRAY
11:06:36AM THAT YOU KEEP US SAFE.
11:06:37AM SO MANY STATE-SPONSORED THREATS AND OTHERS OUT THERE THAT
11:06:41AM ARE REALLY SCARY.
11:06:42AM I APPRECIATE YOU ALL STAYING ON TOP OF THAT.
11:06:45AM PROTECTING OUR CITY'S ASSETS AND THE PEOPLE OF OUR CITY IS
11:06:49AM NUMBER ONE.
11:06:49AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR YEARS OF -- OF
11:06:52AM EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH
11:06:55AM YOU.
11:06:56AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:06:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF YOUR DEPARTMENT
11:07:01AM AND ONE THING SINCE MY TIME ON COUNCIL IS HOW FORWARD-FACING
11:07:06AM OUR TECHNOLOGY IS TOWARD OUR CUSTOMERS -- CITIZENS OF THE
11:07:11AM CITY OF TAMPA.
11:07:11AM I THINK IT IS TREMENDOUS, YOU KNOW, ACCOLADES TO YOU ALL FOR
11:07:15AM HAVING THAT -- THOSE PLATFORMS AND THE ABILITY FOR THE
11:07:20AM COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO TRANSPARENTLY SEE THE WORKINGS OF
11:07:24AM THEIR CITY GOVERNMENT.
11:07:25AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:07:26AM I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A POINT THAT THE CHAIRMAN WAS TWO
11:07:31AM YEARS OLD WHEN YOU WERE FIRST EMPLOYED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:07:34AM HE WAS DOING SOMETHING IN HIS DIAPERS WHEN YOU WERE EMPLOYED
11:07:39AM BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:07:40AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STILL AM.
11:07:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LOOK FORWARD TO WORK WITH YOU.
11:07:44AM IF YOU CAN MOVE THIS TO AN APPLE PLATFORM, YOU WILL HAVE MY
11:07:48AM FOREVER GRATITUDE.
11:07:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
11:07:51AM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:07:54AM SECOND FOR THE NOMINATION.
11:07:56AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:07:58AM OPPOSED?
11:07:59AM CONGRATULATIONS
11:07:59AM [APPLAUSE]
11:08:04AM AND YOUR FAMILY IS HERE WITH YOU.
11:08:05AM >> ABSOLUTELY.
11:08:06AM CAN I BRING THEM UP?
11:08:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABSOLUTELY, BRING THEM UP.
11:08:10AM >> THIS IS DEE, MY WIFE.
11:08:12AM WE HAVE BEEN TOGETHER FOR 45 YEARS BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
11:08:15AM WE MET IN COLLEGE.
11:08:16AM AND SHE HELPED ME PROGRAM BASICALLY.
11:08:19AM AND SHE HAS BEEN BEHIND ME THE WHOLE TIME.
11:08:21AM I HAVE BEEN A PUBLIC SERVANT.
11:08:23AM WHAT YOU GET WITH US WITH THE HAYDEN TEAM, PAUSE CASE WILLY,
11:08:27AM WE WORK WITH EACH OTHER, SUPPORT EACH OTHER TO MAKE SURE WE
11:08:30AM ARE ALL AVAILABLE WHENEVER WE ARE NEEDED.
11:08:33AM MIGRATIONS, YOU NAME IT.
11:08:35AM ALL THE THINGS WE DO, THAT IS TYPICALLY AN I.T. TYPE OF
11:08:39AM THING TAMPA DOESN'T TAKE ONE PERSON, MY WIFE, THE LOVE OF MY
11:08:44AM LIFE, AWESOME.
11:08:45AM SUPPORTED ME.
11:08:46AM HELPED ME IN THE COLLEGE LAB.
11:08:48AM HELPED ME WHEN I AM DOING MIGRATIONS AND I APPRECIATE HER
11:08:54AM AND FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
11:08:56AM >> PROUD OF YOU.
11:08:56AM >> THIS IS MY DAUGHTER, JENNA.
11:08:59AM SHE IS JUST MARRIED.
11:09:00AM SHE IS A NEWLYWED.
11:09:01AM THIS IS ALEX, HER HUSBAND.
11:09:03AM WE WELCOME THEM AS WELL.
11:09:04AM AND SAME THING.
11:09:05AM WE HAVE AN UF GRADUATE.
11:09:08AM FOR THOSE LIKE UF.
11:09:11AM PUBLIC SAFETY AND SERVICE, BASICALLY RUNS THROUGH OUR DNA.
11:09:16AM JENNA SPENT TIME WITH DISPATCH.
11:09:18AM SHE WAS A PUBLIC SERVICE PERSON WITH DISPATCH WITH POLICE.
11:09:22AM MANAGER AT TWC.
11:09:24AM SO PROUD OF HER.
11:09:25AM ALEX, COME ON UP.
11:09:27AM A NEW MEMBER OF THE FAMILY.
11:09:28AM APPRECIATE.
11:09:29AM HE IS TECHIE LIKE ME.
11:09:30AM HE IS A WEATHERMAN.
11:09:31AM HE LOVES TECH.
11:09:32AM HE DOES ALL THIS STUFF.
11:09:34AM WE HAVE BEEN SHOWING HIM THE BEHIND-THE-SCENES THING WITH
11:09:38AM THE PRODUCTION OF THIS MEETING, PUBLIC MEETING AS WELL.
11:09:40AM THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO SUPPORT.
11:09:42AM >> CONGRATS.
11:09:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SMART MOVE SHOWING UP FOR THE NEW
11:09:47AM FATHER-IN-LAW.
11:09:48AM >> EXACTLY.
11:09:49AM MY SON IS NOT HERE.
11:09:51AM HE IS WORKING OVERTIME WITH FIRE DISPATCH.
11:09:53AM HE IS ALSO A PUBLIC SERVICE PERSON.
11:09:56AM A COUPLE OF SUPERVISORS ON LEAVE AND HE IS VOLUNTEERING TO
11:10:00AM WORK THERE AND PROUD OF HIM.
11:10:02AM WE MISS HIM HERE, BUT PROUD OF HIM THAT HE IS THERE AND
11:10:06AM DOING WELL.
11:10:06AM MY TEAM.
11:10:07AM SENIOR SUPERVISOR.
11:10:08AM CYBERSECURITY IS VERY TOP.
11:10:11AM 50% OF OUR WORK.
11:10:13AM WE HAVE TO STAY VIGILANT 7-24.
11:10:18AM WE ACTUALLY FOCUS WITH FUNCTION.
11:10:22AM TEAM LEADERS WORK WITH REVENUE, FINANCE, PUBLIC SAFETY, WORK
11:10:26AM WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT TEAMS.
11:10:27AM WE HAVE CYBERSECURITY WITH OUR SECURITY.
11:10:30AM AND ALL THINGS THAT ARE UP AND RUNNING AND THINGS WE HAVE TO
11:10:33AM KEEP UP WITH.
11:10:34AM YOU ARE RIGHT, A NEVER-ENDING JOB, LOOK FORWARD TO
11:10:40AM COLLABORATING WITH YOU IN THE FUTURE AND THANK YOU SO MUCH
11:10:42AM FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE IN ME AND FOR YOUR VOTE.
11:10:45AM [ APPLAUSE ]
11:10:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
11:10:48AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, I WANT TO BRING TO COUNCIL'S
11:10:50AM ATTENTION THAT YOU DID MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:10:52AM I WANTED TO INCLUDE IT -- SO THE YOU ARE LICK KNOWS, RELATED
11:10:56AM TO ITEM 93 THAT YOU WILL BE DISCUSSING LATER.
11:10:59AM BUT COUNCIL APPROVED THE RESIDENCY WAIVER AS PART OF THE
11:11:03AM RESOLUTION I WANTED TO BE CLEAR.
11:11:08AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, MR. HAYDEN, SHOWING
11:11:12AM HIS HEART.
11:11:12AM FOR SOMEONE WHO BRINGS UP YOUR FAMILY AND TALK ABOUT YOUR
11:11:18AM WIFE OF 45 YEARS.
11:11:19AM I WAS TOUCHED.
11:11:22AM A REAL JIMMY STEWART THING DO YOU THERE.
11:11:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE LUCKY TO HAVE SUCH A WONDERFUL
11:11:28AM FAMILY AND TEAM.
11:11:29AM WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE YOU.
11:11:30AM 38 YEARS OF DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
11:11:33AM WE APPRECIATE YOU BECAUSE WHAT YOU DO IS NOT EASY.
11:11:36AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SHELBY.
11:11:39AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVEN'T EVER DONE THIS.
11:11:42AM I WANT TO SHARE FROM MY PERSPECTIVE THAT I CAME TO KNOW ERIC
11:11:46AM HAYDEN DURING THE PANDEMIC.
11:11:47AM ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT CHALLENGES THAT THIS CITY FACED
11:11:51AM WAS THE CONTINUATION OF OPERATION OF GOVERNMENT AND THIS
11:11:55AM MAN.
11:11:56AM I SAW HIM IN ACTION AND I SAW WHAT HE AND HIS TEAM WAS ABLE
11:12:00AM TO DO.
11:12:00AM AND THE RESIDENTS OF TAMPA OWE A GREAT DEAL OF GRATITUDE TO
11:12:04AM THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ABLE TO GET GOVERNMENT UP AND RUNNING IN
11:12:07AM A TOTAL SHUTDOWN AND TO SEE WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO ON
11:12:11AM BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY TO FULFILL OUR ROLE AS
11:12:14AM GOVERNMENT DURING THIS CRISIS.
11:12:15AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:12:18AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:19AM >> EVERYONE MORE COMMENT AFTER ALL THE ACCOLADES FOR ERIC.
11:12:24AM AFTER HE WAS GOING THROUGH THE SELECTION PROCESS, THE FIRST
11:12:28AM THING HE TOLD ME I DON'T GET IT, I WILL BE YOUR GUY AND I
11:12:32AM WILL TAKE CARE OF THE OTHER PERSON COMING IN.
11:12:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LIKE I SAID, VERY LUCKY TO HAVE YOU.
11:12:38AM WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.
11:12:40AM AS MR. SHELBY MENTIONED, TO PIGGYBACK ON THAT.
11:12:44AM WITH COVID, MOVING TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, LEGISLATIVE
11:12:48AM AIDE LISA AND COORDINATING.
11:12:50AM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DID IT.
11:12:53AM I AM GOOD WITH COMPUTERS AND TECHNOLOGY, BUT YOU AND YOUR
11:12:56AM TEAM TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
11:12:59AM WHAT DO THEY SAY, PIVOT.
11:13:01AM EVERY DAY WAS DIFFERENT.
11:13:03AM YOU HANDLED IT AND YOUR TEAM HANDLED IT.
11:13:06AM THANK YOU.
11:13:07AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY.
11:13:09AM DID YOU SAY THAT YOUR PARTNER IN LIFE DID YOUR HOMEWORK OR
11:13:13AM HELPED YOU WITH IT?
11:13:16AM YOU SAY SHE HELPED YOU WITH YOUR HOMEWORK.
11:13:19AM >> SHE IS A GREAT PROOFREADER.
11:13:22AM WOMEN POWER FOR SURE.
11:13:24AM HELPING WITH PROOFREADING AND EVERYTHING.
11:13:26AM I WOULDN'T BE COMPLETE WITHOUT HER.
11:13:28AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT.
11:13:30AM CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
11:13:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
11:13:35AM THANK YOU.
11:13:35AM ALL RIGHT.
11:13:39AM WE WILL BREAK FOR LUNCH AT 12:00 AND COME BACK AT 1:30.
11:13:43AM GET ON WITH THE AGENDA.
11:13:44AM ITEM NUMBER 6.
11:13:46AM SEE YOU LATER.
11:13:47AM >> GOOD MORNING MR. CHAIR.
11:13:50AM THIS IS McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:13:54AM ITEM NUMBER 6 FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE ONE
11:13:59AM DAY A WEEK WATERING RESTRICTIONS AND PROTECTION FOR THOSE
11:14:03AM WHO APPLIED TO THAT FROM ANY SORT OF PENALTY.
11:14:11AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:14:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THING IS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.
11:14:17AM WE NEED ONE-DAY-A-WEEK WATERING BECAUSE OF THE DROUGHT WE
11:14:22AM GET EVERY SINGLE MAY.
11:14:23AM BUT I HAVE A QUESTION OF ENFORCEMENT.
11:14:25AM WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE?
11:14:28AM >> SO WE DO HAVE A TEAM OF FIVE INDIVIDUALS THAT DO GO OUT
11:14:31AM AND RECENTLY, OUR NUMBERS HAVE RAMPED UP WITH CITATIONS.
11:14:40AM LAST -- WELL, SINCE THE RESTRICTIONS WENT INTO PLACE, WE GOT
11:14:45AM A TOTAL OF 31 CITATIONS.
11:14:47AM TOTALING $34,000 AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF COLLECTING
11:14:55AM THAT BUT $17,000 IS ACTUALLY WHAT WE SELECTED.
11:14:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WOW.
11:15:00AM THANK YOU.
11:15:00AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HENDERSON CARLSON AND
11:15:08AM CLENDENIN.
11:15:08AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WAS CURIOUS OF THE REPORTING OF
11:15:11AM VIOLATIONS.
11:15:12AM ARE COMMUNITY CITIZENS ALLOWED TO DO THAT.
11:15:14AM MAKE A PHONE CALL TO REPORT VIOLATIONS AND DO YOU ADDRESS IT
11:15:17AM FROM THAT CAPACITY?
11:15:19AM >> YES.
11:15:19AM AND WE DO TAKE THOSE BY WEB, E-MAIL AS WELL.
11:15:22AM THERE ARE SOME LINKS ONLINE TO REPORT THAT.
11:15:27AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OKAY, THAT YOU RECALL.
11:15:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:15:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO SAY FOR THE PUBLIC WATCHING AND
11:15:33AM MAY NOT KNOW WHY AND WHAT WE ARE DOING.
11:15:35AM DESPITE CUT-BACKS, TEMPORARY CUTBACKS, THE WATER USAGE IS
11:15:44AM HIGH.
11:15:44AM AND THE ALTERNATIVES TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL WATER IS
11:15:48AM INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE.
11:15:50AM UNLESS THE PUBLIC WANTS US TO DOUBLE -- POSSIBLY DOUBLE,
11:15:54AM TRIPLE, QUADRUPLE THEIR RATES, IT IS BETTER TO PROMOTE
11:15:59AM CONSERVATION.
11:16:00AM THAT IS MY READ INTO IT.
11:16:01AM AND MY VIEW.
11:16:02AM NOT THAT WE ARE ARBITRARY DOING IT TO ARE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL
11:16:07AM REASONS, THERE IS AN ECONOMIC REASON AS WELL.
11:16:09AM AS I READ THAT, INCLUDES PROHIBITION OF RECLAIMED WATER.
11:16:13AM DID I READ THAT CORRECTLY?
11:16:16AM >> DOES NOT RESTRICT THE RECLAIMED WATER USE.
11:16:18AM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE RECLAIMED WATER AND WANT
11:16:21AM TO SIGN UP FOR IT, WHAT IS THE ALLOWANCE FOR THAT?
11:16:25AM >> IT IS $665 SIGN-UP.
11:16:28AM AND ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE LINKS ONLINE.
11:16:31AM AND WE --
11:16:34AM >>BILL CARLSON: WATER IT HOW MANY TIMES A WEEK?
11:16:38AM >> IT IS NOT LIMITED.
11:16:38AM WE ASK THEM TO USE THEIR JUDGMENT ON THAT BUT IT IS NOT
11:16:45AM RESTRICTED.
11:16:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE OF THE PILOT DONE 20 YEARS AGO,
11:16:48AM AVAILABLE IN SOUTH TAMPA, AND WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER
11:16:52AM ALTERNATIVES WHO WANT IT.
11:16:54AM PEOPLE IN SOUTH TAMPA WHO ARE NOT SIGNED UP.
11:16:57AM IF YOU WANT A WATER SOURCE THAT DOES NOT HURT A POTABLE
11:17:00AM SUPPLY, TALK TO THE WATER DEPARTMENT OF SIGNING UP FOR THAT
11:17:04AM I HAD MY IRRIGATION PERSON LOOK AT THIS, AND HE SAID CERTAIN
11:17:08AM CONDITIONS THAT YOU CAN WATER MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK.
11:17:12AM CAN YOU DESCRIBE THOSE.
11:17:13AM I WENT INTO THE EXPENSE OF PUTTING IN A DRIP SYSTEM.
11:17:16AM AND HE SAID DRIP IS NOT INCLUDED.
11:17:18AM SO IF SOMEBODY HAS A DRIP SYSTEM AND OR THEY HAVE SOME KIND
11:17:21AM OF WATER SAVING DEVICES, WHAT ARE THE RESTRICTION ON THOSE?
11:17:27AM >> THERE ARE NO RESTRICTION ON THE MICRO IRRIGATION.
11:17:29AM AND IF YOU ARE ESTABLISHING A NEW LAWN, WE -- THERE IS AN
11:17:33AM ALLOWANCE FOR THAT ADDITIONAL WATERING.
11:17:35AM I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS.
11:17:37AM I BELIEVE IT IS 60 DAYS --
11:17:43AM >> GOOD MORNING, McLANE EVANS, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY.
11:17:46AM WE FOLLOW UNDER S.W.F.W.M.D.'S GUIDANCE WITH THE NEW LAWN
11:17:50AM LANDSCAPING RULES.
11:17:51AM A 60-DAY ALLOWANCE.
11:17:53AM 30 DAYS ARE UP TO EVERY DAY BUT ONLY UP TO YOUR WATERING
11:17:58AM HOURS.
11:17:58AM AND THE NEXT 30 DAYS ARE THREE DAY AS WEEK DEPENDING IF YOU
11:18:02AM ARE AN ODD OR EVEN ADDRESS AGAIN DURING NORMAL WATERING
11:18:06AM HOURS.
11:18:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAVE BEEN PREACH BEING
11:18:11AM THIS FOR YEARS AND HE HAS THE BEST SYSTEM OF ANY OF US.
11:18:13AM BUT IT IS EXPENSIVE TO PUT THE DRIP SYSTEM IN, BUT IF YOU
11:18:17AM HAVE THE OLD ONE THAT SPRAYS, YOU ARE WASTE A LOT OF WATER.
11:18:20AM AND YOU CAN -- YOU CAN CUT YOUR WATER USAGE BY 90% IN SOME
11:18:27AM CASES.
11:18:27AM AND YOU ARE NOT NECESSARILY TIED INTO THE RESTRICTION.
11:18:30AM SO ANYTHING -- ANYTHING THAT PEOPLE CAN DO, LOOK AT THAT.
11:18:35AM PLUS REBATES THROUGH THE -- THROUGH THE CITY AND TAMPA BAY
11:18:39AM WATER FOR PUTTING ELECTRONIC METERS AND OTHER KINDS OF USAGE
11:18:44AM SYSTEMS ON THERE.
11:18:44AM SO IF ANYBODY IS LOOKING AT IT, PLEASE LOOK AT THESE
11:18:49AM ALTERNATIVES BECAUSE YOU CAN STILL WORK TO EFFECTIVELY HELP
11:18:53AM PLANTS IN YOUR YARD OR GARDENS IF YOU FOLLOW THE RULES.
11:18:56AM THANK YOU.
11:18:57AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN AND THEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:19:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION.
11:19:02AM WE ARE ENTERING RAINY SEASON.
11:19:04AM WHY DON'T WE DO THIS EARLIER AND HAVE THE RESTRICTION DURING
11:19:07AM THE DROUGHT PERIOD.
11:19:08AM WHY DO WE WAIT UNTIL WE START RAINY SEASON TO START THIS.
11:19:12AM >> IT'S -- WE WERE LOOKING AT WHEN THE DISTRICTS WAS --
11:19:18AM RESTRICTION WAS GOING TO EXPIRE.
11:19:19AM AND WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR DEMAND.
11:19:22AM WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR -- HERE IS A QUICK SNAPSHOT.
11:19:26AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SEE IT.
11:19:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I WAS GETTING TO.
11:19:30AM >> A SNAPSHOT OF OUR RESERVOIR.
11:19:32AM YOU SEE THE GREEN LINE.
11:19:33AM THIS IS OUR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DROPPING.
11:19:35AM HILLSBOROUGH RIVER DROPPING.
11:19:38AM WE ARE SEEING THE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS.
11:19:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KIND OF WHAT I WAS GETTING AT TO SHOW THE
11:19:43AM SIGNIFICANCE IN THE DROP -- THE RISE IN DEMAND AND THE
11:19:46AM SIGNIFICANT DROP IN THE RESERVOIR.
11:19:53AM >> DEMAND HAS CONTINUED ON RISE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE
11:19:56AM EXPIRATION.
11:19:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:19:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:20:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START I HAVE SO
11:20:04AM MANY THINGS IN MY MIND.
11:20:05AM THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
11:20:06AM THIS IS SOMETHING NOT NEW.
11:20:08AM WE ARE ONE OF THE FIRST TO RESTRICT THE WATER USAGE MORE
11:20:12AM THAN ONCE A WEEK, TWICE A WEEK AND CUT IT DOWN TO ONCE A
11:20:15AM WEEK.
11:20:15AM HOWEVER, WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THE TOTAL PICTURE, I
11:20:20AM DON'T KNOW HOW LONG WE HAD 82 MILLION GALLONS A DAY ON THE
11:20:26AM DAILY BASIS 40 TO 50 YEARS DOUBLED.
11:20:37AM AND WHAT I SAW YESTERDAY OF THE PROJECTIONS OF THE MEDIA BY
11:20:41AM 2050, THIS CITY WILL GROW ANOTHER 100,000.
11:20:46AM IF WE ARE AT 82 MILLION GALLON AS DAY AND YOU CAN'T VIOLATE
11:20:51AM IT AND OTHERS CAN ASK FOR IT AND GET IT.
11:20:53AM THAT IS THE WAY I SEE IT.
11:20:54AM WE GETTER NEVER SELL ONE OUNCE OF RECLAIMED WATER TO NO ONE
11:21:07AM SIGH THAT AND I KNOW WHERE I'M COMING FROM AND I APPRECIATE
11:21:10AM EVERYBODY'S SYSTEM.
11:21:11AM I HAVE THE BEST SYSTEM, NO GRASS.
11:21:13AM 24 YEARS AGO I TOOK AWAY ALL THE GRASS, FRONT AND BACK.
11:21:17AM ALL I HAVE ARE ROCKS.
11:21:20AM IT IS EASIER TO MAINTAIN.
11:21:21AM NO LAWNMOWER.
11:21:23AM NO NOISE AND SOMEBODY WILL SAY I AM WAKING UP SOMEBODY'S
11:21:26AM KID.
11:21:26AM NO EMISSION FROM THE LAWNMOWER SAYING I AM VIOLATING THE
11:21:32AM LAW.
11:21:32AM AND -- AND I AM TALKING ABOUT MYSELF.
11:21:34AM NO, I AM TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IF YOU REALLY
11:21:37AM WANT TO DO IT.
11:21:38AM SO SOONER OR LATER, THIS WILL GET WORSE, NOT BETTER.
11:21:44AM WE ARE KILLING OURSELVES THROUGH THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE
11:21:47AM DON'T CAKE CARE OF.
11:21:49AM THAT IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH -- EXCUSE ME -- TO THE WHOLE
11:21:52AM WORLD.
11:21:52AM NOT JUST US.
11:21:53AM LOOK AT CALIFORNIA.
11:21:54AM LOOK AT PHOENIX.
11:21:55AM YOU CAN'T GET A PERMIT.
11:21:56AM ZEPHYRHILLS, I THINK -- THE WHOLE WORLD IS THE SAME WAY.
11:22:00AM SO I AM WARNING NOW, I WILL VOTE NO TO SELL RECLAIMED WATER
11:22:05AM TO ANYONE UNLESS WE HAVE MORE THAN 82 MILLION GALLON AS DAY.
11:22:09AM WE CAN DO THAT IF THEY LET US PUT MORE WATER IN THE AQUIFER
11:22:13AM ON THE ASR SYSTEM OR DO MORE WELLS THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN
11:22:17AM SOMETHING.
11:22:17AM AND EVEN THEN -- EVEN IF WE FILL ALL THE WELLS UP AND THERE
11:22:21AM IS A VIOLATION OF REDUCTION IN RAINFALL, GUESS WHAT, YOU
11:22:26AM ONLY HAVE WATER FOR 20 DAYS IF YOU USE OLD WELLS.
11:22:30AM SO -- YOU ARE CATCH-22 AND FOOLING OURSELVES IF WE THINK WE
11:22:34AM ARE GOING TO BE NICE AND HAVE ENOUGH WATER.
11:22:36AM YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE NICE IF YOU WANT TO HAVE ENOUGH
11:22:39AM WATER.
11:22:39AM YOU GOT TO GO OUT AND FIGHT FOR IT.
11:22:41AM BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS COMING.
11:22:43AM WE SIGN SOMETHING AND IT IS GREAT.
11:22:44AM IT IS THERE.
11:22:45AM NEVER ENDS.
11:22:46AM GOT TWO ENDINGS.
11:22:49AM HOW CAN A CONTRACT HAVE TWO ENDINGS.
11:22:51AM IN 2038 UNLESS OFF DEBT SERVICE.
11:22:55AM IF YOU HAVE A DEBT SERVICE, IT NEVER ENDS.
11:22:57AM YOU BUY BIND SOMETHING, IT NEVER ENDS.
11:23:02AM THIS CITY, NOT TODAY, NOT TOMORROW, BUT THE NEXT 20 YEARS,
11:23:06AM SOMETHING HAS GOT TO HAPPEN, BECAUSE YOU NEVER HAVE ENOUGH
11:23:09AM WATER WITH THE 82 MILLION GALLONS A DAY AVERAGE.
11:23:12AM IT CAN'T HAPPEN WITH ANOTHER 100,000 PEOPLE COMING.
11:23:16AM IT JUST CAN'T HAPPEN.
11:23:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:23:18AM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:23:20AM >> DO YOU BELIEVE WATER IS THE FUTURE.
11:23:22AM FUTURE GOAL?
11:23:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WITHOUT WATER, THERE IS NOTHING LEFT.
11:23:26AM >> WE WILL CONTINUE TO CONSERVE IT.
11:23:28AM IT IS A GOOD SPEND OF OUR MONEY.
11:23:30AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:23:32AM ANYTHING ELSE IN THE PRESENTATION?
11:23:35AM >> NO, I MEAN, I HAD SOME STUFF JUST TO ANSWER SOME
11:23:38AM QUESTIONS, BUT IT -- YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOOD.
11:23:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
11:23:44AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE ORDINANCE
11:23:50AM MIRANDA FILE NUMBER 6,E 2024-8 CHAPTER 26.
11:23:56AM FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
11:23:58AM PERTAINING TO UTILITIES AMENDING CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF
11:24:02AM ORDINANCES CHAPTER 26, ARTICLES 2, WATER SECTION 2697, WATER
11:24:07AM CONSERVATION PROVIDING ONE-DAY-A-WEEK AND PENALTIES FOR
11:24:12AM VIOLATION AND PROTECTION OF PENALTIES FOR PROVIDING FOR
11:24:15AM DEFINITION REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND CONFLICT HEREIN
11:24:22AM PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:24:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
11:24:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:24:27AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:24:29AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:24:30AM OPPOSED?
11:24:31AM >>CLERK: SECOND READING AND ADOPTION ON JULY 18, 2024 AT
11:24:36AM 10:30 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 E. KENNEDY
11:24:41AM BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:24:45AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:24:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO TO CONSENT AGENDA.
11:24:49AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:24:51AM THE CHAIR OF PUBLIC, MINUS 147-17.
11:25:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:25:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR --
11:25:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:25:07AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL ABSTAIN ON NUMBER 17.
11:25:10AM MY FIRM DOES WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
11:25:13AM NOT RELATED TO ANYTHING REGARDING THE CITY AND THIS SUBJECT,
11:25:16AM BUT IN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION I WILL RECUSE MYSELF.
11:25:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: 7 THROUGH 13, 15 AND 16 AT THIS TIME.
11:25:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:25:27AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:25:29AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:25:29AM OPPOSED.
11:25:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: SEPARATELY, ITEM 17.
11:25:34AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
11:25:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:25:37AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:25:40AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.
11:25:43AM HENDERSON I MOVE PARKS RECREATION CULTURAL COMMITTEE ITEMS
11:25:48AM 18-26.
11:25:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:25:50AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:25:51AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:25:53AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:25:54AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:25:55AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, 28-41, BECAUSE 27 WILL BE HEARD WITH
11:25:59AM 87.
11:26:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE ITEMS 28-41.
11:26:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:26:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:26:07AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:26:08AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:26:10AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:26:11AM 43-46 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 45.
11:26:15AM >> I MOVE 42 THROUGH 46 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 45.
11:26:18AM MANISCALCO MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:26:24AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:26:26AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:26:30AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:26:31AM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 57 AND 58.
11:26:33AM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF ON NUMBER 63.
11:26:36AM MY FIRM HAS A CLIENT RELATED TO THE SUBJECT.
11:26:40AM WE DON'T WORK ON ANYTHING RELATED TO THE CITY, BUT IN AN
11:26:42AM ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I WILL RECUSE MY PETITION IS.
11:26:45AM I WILL MOVE 47-66 NOT INCLUDING 57, 58 AND 63.
11:26:51AM >> SECOND.
11:26:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:26:55AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:26:57AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:26:58AM SEPARATE VOTE FOR ITEM 63.
11:27:00AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, THE VICE-CHAIR.
11:27:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOVE ITEM 63.
11:27:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:27:07AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:27:09AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:27:10AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING
11:27:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TRANSPORTATION CHAIR.
11:27:16AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEM 73.
11:27:23AM A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:27:24AM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:27:26AM FAVOR.
11:27:28AM OPPOSED.
11:27:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE 74-77 FOR SCHEDULED HEARINGS AS NOTED
11:27:34AM ON THE AGENDA.
11:27:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
11:27:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:27:38AM ANY OPPOSED ALL RIGHT.
11:27:41AM WE HAVE A FEW PUBLIC HEARINGS, SECOND READING AT THIS TIME.
11:27:44AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK -- THESE ARE NONQUASI JUDICIAL.
11:27:48AM IF YOU WERE GOING TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS
11:27:52AM FROM NOW UNTIL 10:30, BECAUSE 1:30 WE CAN'T HEAR YET, PLEASE
11:27:57AM STAND AND RAISE YOUR HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
11:28:01AM A MOTION TO OPEN ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS EXCEPT 84.
11:28:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOTION.
11:28:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
11:28:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:28:08AM OPPOSED.
11:28:09AM IF YOU WILL SPEAK ON 78-83, PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT
11:28:13AM HAND AND LET'S SWEAR YOU IN [SWEARING IN]
11:28:20AM >> I DO.
11:28:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. CHAIR.
11:28:22AM MARTY, IF I OKAY IF I SAY THIS ONCE, 81 AND 82.
11:28:29AM I WAS ABSENT BUT REVIEWED THE FILES AND WATCHED THE VIDEO.
11:28:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:28:35AM YOU ARE READY TO VOTE?
11:28:36AM ITEM 78.
11:28:37AM MISS REBECCA JOHNS.
11:28:39AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: HI, GOOD MORNING, REBECCA JOHNS, LEGAL
11:28:42AM DEPARTMENT.
11:28:43AM SECOND READING IN THE ORDINANCE IMPOSING MONITORING FEES FOR
11:28:46AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.
11:28:48AM JUST TO REMIND YOU, THIS ONLY PERTAINS TO DEVELOPMENTS THAT
11:28:51AM ARE BUILDING BUILT PURSUANT TO LIVE LOCAL, BONUS AGREEMENTS
11:28:55AM AND HOUSE BILL 1339.
11:28:57AM AND ALSO INCLUDES AN EXCEPTION FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENTS THAT
11:29:00AM ALREADY HAVE THIRD PARTY MONITORING FOR OTHER REASONS.
11:29:03AM I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:29:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT WAS MY QUESTION IF THIS THERE WERE
11:29:11AM EXCEPTIONS.
11:29:12AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THEY HAVE TO WORK IN AN AGREEMENT WITH THE
11:29:16AM CITY TO HAVE THOSE MONITORING REPORTS PROVIDED TO THE CITY.
11:29:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:29:21AM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS ANYONE IN THE
11:29:24AM PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
11:29:26AM YES, SIR.
11:29:26AM PLEASE COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME.
11:29:29AM GOOD MORNING.
11:29:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:29:32AM ERIC GARDUNO.
11:29:35AM WITH THE BAY AREA APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
11:29:37AM THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
11:29:39AM OUR ASSOCIATION REPRESENTS THE APARTMENT INDUSTRY IN THE
11:29:42AM GREATER TAMPA BAY REGION.
11:29:44AM WE PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:29:48AM I AM COMING BEFORE YOU TODAY TO ASK YOU TO NOT PASS THIS
11:29:54AM ORDINANCE.
11:29:54AM IN SHORT AS STATED A MOMENT AGO, THE ORDINANCE STATES A NEED
11:29:59AM FOR CITY BUREAUCRACY FOR AFFORDABLE UNITS UNDER THE
11:30:04AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACT AND HOUSING DENSITY BONUSES ON IN ITS
11:30:09AM FACE REASONABLE.
11:30:09AM MAKES SENSE.
11:30:11AM THAT SAID, ALREADY IN OUR INDUSTRY A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT
11:30:17AM MEANS BY WHICH THOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS ARE
11:30:21AM DONE.
11:30:21AM MANY OF OUR MEMBERS TODAY ARE UNDER A REQUIREMENT WHETHER
11:30:24AM STATE LAW, FEDERAL LAW, LENDER REQUIREMENTS TO PROVIDE THIRD
11:30:29AM PARTY VERIFICATION REPORTS, AS WELL AS MENTIONED A MOMENT
11:30:32AM AGO, A PROVISION WITHIN THE ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR THOSE
11:30:36AM THIRD PARTY REPORTS; HOWEVER, I WOULD SAY THAT, FROM OUR
11:30:41AM STANDPOINT, IT SEEMS TO BE MUCH MORE OF A GATEKEEPER AND
11:30:45AM DIFFICULT -- POTENTIALLY DIFFICULT TO GET THOSE REPORTS IN
11:30:48AM FRONT OF THE -- OF THE CITY, BECAUSE THERE SEEMS TO BE A
11:30:52AM CUMBERSOME PROCESS TO VERIFY THAT.
11:30:54AM MORE IMPORTANTLY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, OUR MEMBERS -- YOU
11:31:00AM KNOW, WE REALLY DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR COMPLIANCE
11:31:03AM REPORT.
11:31:04AM THEY COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OUT THERE OPINION WHAT WE
11:31:08AM DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IS THERE A NEED TO BRING THAT
11:31:12AM REQUIREMENT INTO THE CITY WHEN THERE WERE THIRD PARTIES IS
11:31:15AM THE NORM AND OUR MEMBERS REGULARLY RELY UPON.
11:31:17AM BUILDING A CAPACITY IN THE CITY FOR CITY STAFF TO DO THE
11:31:21AM SAME WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR DOES NOT
11:31:25AM MAKE SENSE TO US.
11:31:25AM ADDITIONALLY IT ALSO APPLIES A FEE -- THE COMPLIANCE FEE ON
11:31:31AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH ORDINANCE.
11:31:32AM WE HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS.
11:31:34AM I CANVAS MY MEMBERS NOT JUST IN THE AREA BUT ACROSS THE
11:31:38AM STATE.
11:31:38AM NO MUNICIPALITY HAS PASSIVE ORDINANCE THAT WE KNOW OF THAT
11:31:42AM IMPOSE AS COMPLIANCE FEE ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:31:45AM OUR GOAL IS TO PRODUCE AS MUCH AFFORDABLE HOUSING NOT TO
11:31:48AM MAKE IT AS DIFFICULT AS IT HAS TO BE.
11:31:50AM WE ASK THAT YOU NOT MOVE THIS ORDINANCE FORWARD AS IT ADDS
11:31:55AM COST TO THE WORK WE ALREADY DO AND A MUCH BETTER APPROACH
11:31:58AM WILL SIMPLY BE FOR THE CITY TO HAVE A PROCESS TO ACCEPT A
11:32:01AM THIRD PARTY.
11:32:02AM COMPLAINS REPORTS ALREADY DONE ARE READILY AVAILABLE.
11:32:05AM THAT ACCOMPLISHES THE GOAL, KEEPS IN MIND WITH WHAT WE ARE
11:32:09AM ALREADY DOING, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS A MUCH MORE
11:32:14AM SIMPLER, STREAMLINE AND EFFECTIVE APPROACH THAT EVERYONE CAN
11:32:18AM AGREE ON.
11:32:18AM THANK YOU.
11:32:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:32:21AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
11:32:24AM I SEE NO ONE.
11:32:25AM ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.
11:32:27AM MISS JOHNS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD?
11:32:30AM LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
11:32:31AM WITH REGARDS TO THIS --
11:32:33AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: I SHOULD HAVE SAID NO.
11:32:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM USUALLY QUIET.
11:32:37AM WHAT WAS THE COST?
11:32:39AM SAYING THIS IS AN EXTRA BURDEN FOR THOSE TRYING TO PROVIDE
11:32:44AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WHATNOT.
11:32:46AM WHAT KIND OF COSTS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.
11:32:49AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: ONCE THE ORDINANCE, IF IT GETS PASSED,
11:32:52AM BRING BACK THE ORDINANCE THAT SETS THE FREE.
11:32:54AM THE COST THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE
11:32:57AM FIRST READING IS $1,000 INITIAL FEE AND ANNUAL MONITORING
11:33:04AM $500 FOR BUILDINGS, FOUR UNITS AND LESS.
11:33:09AM AND FIVE UNITS OF LESS.
11:33:11AM AND FOR EACH UNIT ABOVE THE FIVE, $50.
11:33:14AM SOME THAT WILL BE AN ANNUAL FEE.
11:33:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF YOU HAVE A FIVE-UNIT COMPLEX.
11:33:20AM $100 PER UNIT AND EVERYTHING ABOVE IS $50.
11:33:27AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: IF YOU HAVE A FIVE-UNIT COMPLEX, YOU HAVE A
11:33:29AM $1,000 INITIAL FEE AND ANNUALLY YOU WILL HAVE THE $500 FEE.
11:33:33AM IF YOU HAD SIX UNITS, AN ANNUAL $550 FEE.
11:33:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE $1,000 FEE RECURRING OR INITIAL --
11:33:44AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THE INITIAL.
11:33:45AM FOR THE CITY TO CERTIFY.
11:33:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AFTER THAT ANNUALLY 500 AND $50 FOR
11:33:51AM ANYTHING OVER?
11:33:52AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: CORRECT.
11:33:53AM AGAIN, THAT IS NOT IN THIS ORDINANCE BUT WILL BE SET
11:33:57AM SEPARATELY BY RESOLUTION.
11:33:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN THAT BE MODIFIED AND REGULATED BY
11:34:02AM COUNCIL.
11:34:02AM IF WE WANT TO SAY NOT $500 OR $300 OR $1,000 OR $50.
11:34:07AM WE CAN CHANGE IT FROM THERE.
11:34:10AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: WE ARE DOING IT BY RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT IS
11:34:12AM EASIER FOR YOU TO CHANGE THE FEE IT IS THAT IS WHAT YOU WANT
11:34:15AM TO DO.
11:34:15AM OPINION.
11:34:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO NEXT.
11:34:17AM CLENDENIN, HURTAK, CARLSON.
11:34:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY UNDERSTANDING THAT GUYS ARE SET IN THE
11:34:23AM STATE OF FLORIDA OF ACTUAL COSTS INCURRED BY THE GOVERNMENT,
11:34:26AM HOW WE SET FEES.
11:34:28AM WE SET THIS FEE AND MAKE SURE THAT IT IS REIMBURSING US FOR
11:34:32AM THE COST OF PROVIDING A SERVICE.
11:34:33AM >> KAYON HENDERSON HAS DONE THIS ANALYSIS AND THESE FEES ARE
11:34:38AM IN ACCORDANCE OF WHAT THEY GET PAID BY H.U.D. AND BUILT INTO
11:34:44AM THE OTHER CONTRACTS.
11:34:45AM THIS IS IN CONTRAST TO THE ACTUAL COST OF IT.
11:34:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OUR DISCUSSION WITH FEES THAT WE NEED TO
11:34:51AM MAKE SURE MERE UP TO DATE AND REIMBURSE THE ACTUAL COST OF
11:34:54AM WHATEVER THIS IS SO THE OTHER TAXPAYERS ARE NOT PAYING THAT.
11:34:58AM AND SUBSIDIZING THE AREA BUSINESS IS ACTUALLY PAYING FOR IT.
11:35:05AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: CORRECT.
11:35:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, CARLSON.
11:35:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
11:35:10AM IF SOMEBODY ALREADY HAS THIRD-PARTY VERIFICATION, WHAT WILL
11:35:16AM BE THE FEES FOR.
11:35:23AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THAT BE EXCEPTION IS BUILT INTO -- THE
11:35:25AM LITTLE SECTION 4 ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE ACTUAL TEXT OF THE
11:35:29AM ORDINANCE THOUGH THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE THIRD-PARTY
11:35:32AM MONITORING COMPANY IS APPROVED BY THE CITY.
11:35:34AM THAT THE SCOPE OF MONITORING HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE CITY.
11:35:38AM THAT THE THIRD PARTY MONITORING COMPANY FIREARMS THE
11:35:40AM MONITORING SERVICES AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY.
11:35:42AM AND THE OWNER OF THE PROJECT PAYS ALL MONITORING FEES FOR
11:35:48AM THE THIRD-PARTY MONITORING.
11:35:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE ONCE OR ANNUALLY?
11:35:56AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: IT WILL BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY.
11:35:59AM SO IF THEY ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT ONCE.
11:36:02AM AND THEY CONTINUE TO USE THAT SAME COMPANY AND NOTHING
11:36:05AM CHANGES AS FAR AS THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING MONITORED,
11:36:08AM THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO ENTER INTO THAT AGREEMENT ONE TIME.
11:36:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT THIS IS BASICALLY TRYING TO DO IS
11:36:16AM INCENTIVIZING PEOPLE WHO USE -- WHO ARE PROVIDING AFFORDABLE
11:36:20AM HOUSING TO USE THE THIRD PARTY MONITORING SYSTEM.
11:36:23AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS AN INCENTIVE IF
11:36:28AM THEY ARE ALREADY DOING THAT AND THAT IS WHAT THEIR PLAN IS,
11:36:31AM THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
11:36:33AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY, THANK YOU.
11:36:34AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: TRYING TO RECOVER THE COST FOR HOSE WHO
11:36:40AM DON'T DO THE THIRD-PARTY MONITORING THAT THE CITY HAS TO DO.
11:36:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND MIRANDA.
11:36:46AM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU KIND OF ANSWERED THE QUESTION I WAS
11:36:49AM GOING TO ASK.
11:36:50AM IF YOU SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE CAUTION OF CHARGING AN EXTRA FEE
11:36:55AM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TALK ABOUT WHY THIS IS NECESSARY
11:36:59AM AND THE BENEFIT FOR THE PUBLIC STAYING IN AFFORDABLE
11:37:02AM HOUSING.
11:37:02AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: SURE.
11:37:03AM YOU ARE MONITORING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:37:06AM THE CITY HAS TO ENSURE THAT THE TENANTS LIVING IN THE UNITS
11:37:10AM ARE INCOME CERTIFIED.
11:37:13AM THE CITY HAS TO LOOK AT THE INCOME BASED ON DOCUMENTS BY THE
11:37:17AM DEVELOPER.
11:37:17AM CITY HAS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF
11:37:20AM THE STATUTE, THE BONUS AGREEMENT, THE LAND USE RESTRICTION
11:37:24AM AGREEMENTS, WHATEVER DOCUMENTS ARE INVOLVED.
11:37:27AM WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE COMING ONLINE WHICH IS A GREAT THING,
11:37:30AM BUT THE CITY HAS TO BE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE STAFF TO DO
11:37:33AM THAT.
11:37:33AM SO THIS WILL COVER THE COST OF THE STAFF TO DO ALL OF THAT
11:37:38AM MONITORING.
11:37:38AM AND SO THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY IS, THIS IS NOT ANOTHER
11:37:43AM EXAMPLE WHERE THE COSTS ARE NOT COVERING THE ACTUAL SERVICES
11:37:47AM THAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING.
11:37:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:37:53AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST THINKING OUT LOUD.
11:37:56AM IN THE BEGINNING THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT, LET'S SAY
11:38:01AM 100-UNIT PROJECT.
11:38:02AM AND THE CITY WANTS 15% OR 20%, 20 UNITS OF THAT SO NOW WHAT
11:38:11AM THE DEVELOPER IS DOING, MAYBE RIGHTLY SO, THE DIFFERENCE
11:38:14AM BETWEEN WHAT I COULD COLLECT AND WHAT YOU COLLECT TO PAY THE
11:38:17AM DIFFERENCE FOR 30 YEARS.
11:38:18AM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
11:38:19AM AND WE HAD TO PAY SOME DEVELOPMENT INTO THAT DEVELOPMENT TO
11:38:23AM HAVE BUILT THE WHOLE PROCESS.
11:38:25AM COULD THERE BE A WAY THAT THE CITY SAYS, OKAY, INSTEAD OF
11:38:30AM 100.
11:38:31AM WE WILL GIVE YOU 120.
11:38:32AM AND THAT 20 THAT WE ARE GIVING YOU SUBSIDIZES THE OTHER 20
11:38:37AM AND THOSE 20s ARE PART EVEN SO THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO MAKE
11:38:42AM THE INVESTMENT INTO THE REAL ESTATE AND THE PROJECT AND USE
11:38:45AM MONEY FOR OTHER THINGS THEY REALLY NEED.
11:38:47AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: I AM NOT REALLY --
11:38:50AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT GOOD WITH NUMBERS AND I
11:38:54AM APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
11:38:54AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: I AM NOT -- YOU I DIDN'T FOLLOW THAT.
11:38:57AM IF YOU COULD RESTATE IT AS FAR AS.
11:38:59AM >> I AM NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS BUT TALKING OF THE
11:39:08AM INDIVIDUAL STUFF.
11:39:09AM COULD THE CITY POSSIBLY DO THAT?
11:39:11AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: THAT IS PROBABLY ANOTHER CONVERSATION.
11:39:13AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST BRINGING IT UP BECAUSE YOU ARE
11:39:16AM TALK OF CHECKING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
11:39:20AM ALL OF THEM.
11:39:25AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
11:39:28AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
11:39:30AM I GOT IT.
11:39:31AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: BASED ON THIS, THE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE
11:39:36AM BUILT PURSUANT TO THE LIVE LOCAL AND HOUSE BILL 13-39 AND
11:39:41AM BONUS AGREEMENTS, THAT IS BASED ON FOR CERTAIN THINGS LIKE
11:39:46AM FOR THE LIVE LOCAL IN HOUSE BILL 1339, THE PERCENTAGE THAT
11:39:51AM THE DEVELOPER DETERMINES ARE GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE.
11:39:54AM THE BONUS PROVISION BASE AND WHAT IS CALCULATABLE PURSUANT
11:39:59AM TO THE BONUS PROVISION CODE.
11:40:00AM I AM NOT SURE I AM ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
11:40:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND, THANK YOU.
11:40:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:40:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE FOLKS THAT REPRESENT THE
11:40:13AM DEPARTMENTS.
11:40:13AM AND I HAD A VERY GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
11:40:15AM WHEN YOU HEARD THAT THE CITY'S ORDINANCE PROVIDES FOR THIRD
11:40:19AM PARTY VERIFICATION.
11:40:20AM I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF YOUR CONCERNS.
11:40:22AM DOES THAT MITIGATE YOUR CONCERN?
11:40:25AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME ON UP, SIR.
11:40:27AM STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
11:40:28AM >> REMEMBER RICK, APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
11:40:33AM UNFORTUNATELY IT DOESN'T GO THE AS FAR AS IT NEEDS TO GO.
11:40:37AM THE WAY THE ORDINANCE, MAINTENANCE FEE ALSO NOT BE PAID TO
11:40:43AM THE CITY IF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT IN THE CITY HAVE
11:40:45AM AGREED IN WRITING FOR THIRD-PARTY MONITORING COMPANY
11:40:48AM PROVIDED THAT, ONE, THE THIRD-PARTY MONITORING COMPANY IS
11:40:52AM APPROVED BY THE CITY.
11:40:53AM NO INFORMATION HOW THAT PROCESS IS SET UP IN TERMS OF
11:40:56AM APPROVAL.
11:40:57AM WHO WILL BE APPROVED?
11:41:00AM WHO WILL NOT?
11:41:01AM A NUMBER OF COMPANIES THAT PROVIDING THIRD-PARTY MONITORING.
11:41:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS COMING.
11:41:07AM TESTIMONY FROM OUR STAFF, THAT WILL BE NEGOTIATED WITH THE
11:41:11AM CITY AND MY UNDERSTANDING, MISS JOHNS, THE CITY WILL PROVE
11:41:14AM THAT BASE AND WORKING WITH THAT CLIENT TO ENSURE THAT
11:41:18AM HAPPENS AND WILL HAVE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES,
11:41:21AM THAT'S CORRECT?
11:41:21AM OKAY.
11:41:21AM THANK YOU.
11:41:22AM THAT IS STILL COMING.
11:41:25AM NOT NECESSARILY IN ORDINANCE, BUT THE NEXT STEP WITH
11:41:29AM IMPLEMENTATION.
11:41:30AM >> UNDER.
11:41:32AM >>REBECCA JOHNS: LET ME BE CLEAR OF THE NEXT STEP, THAT WILL
11:41:35AM BE A PROJECT-TO-PROJECT AGREEMENT.
11:41:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:41:39AM >> WHICH LEAVES OPEN WHETHER SOMEBODY IS OR ISN'T APPROVED
11:41:43AM IN TERMS OF THE REPORTS THAT THEY ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR AND
11:41:46AM GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS TO COMPLETE.
11:41:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:41:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:41:53AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:41:55AM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:41:56AM OPPOSED.
11:41:57AM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
11:41:58AM I THINK I LEFT OFF WITH YOU, READ ITEM 78.
11:42:01AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES, SIR.
11:42:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:42:04AM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FILE NUMBER E 2024-8 CHAPTER 17.5.
11:42:15AM AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, PERTAINING TO
11:42:19AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AMENDING THE TITLE TO ARTICLE I OF
11:42:23AM CHAPTER 17.5 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES INCLUDE
11:42:27AM COMPLIANCE AND MONITORING FEE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
11:42:30AM DEVELOPMENTS, ADDING SECTION 17.5-14 TO ARTICLE I OF CHAPTER
11:42:36AM 17.5 TO PROVIDE FOR COMPLIANCE AND MONITORING FEES TO BE
11:42:40AM PAID BY PRIVATE DEVELOP TO REIMBURSE THE CITY TAMPA FOR
11:42:45AM COSTS INCURRED BY THE CITY IN MONITORING AFFORDABLE UNITS
11:42:48AM CONSTRUCTED PURSUANT TO BONUS PROVISION AGREEMENTS APPROVED
11:42:53AM TO CITY OF TAMPA CODE OR AUTHORIZED BY SECTION 1.66.04151,
11:43:00AM FLORIDA STATUTES, REPEALING ALL ORDINANCES AND ALL
11:43:03AM ORDINANCES HEREWITH PROVIDE FOR SEVERABILITY AND PROVIDING
11:43:08AM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:43:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND MANISCALCO AND A SECOND FROM
11:43:11AM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:43:12AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:43:14AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:43:20AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
11:43:20AM ITEM 79.
11:43:21AM HELLO, SIR.
11:43:27AM >> GOOD MORNING, RON WIGGINTON, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:43:32AM ITEM 79 CORRECTING TWO MINOR SCRIVENER ERRORS.
11:43:38AM 2022-166.
11:43:41AM APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY CITY COUNCIL AT FIRST READING.
11:43:44AM I AM AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
11:43:47AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. WIGGINTON.
11:43:50AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC TO WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM 79.
11:43:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOTION CLOSE.
11:43:57AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:43:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, 79.
11:44:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MOVE ITEM VAC 2022-06.
11:44:06AM ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE 2022-166 PASSED AND ORDAINED BY
11:44:12AM THE CITY OF TAMPA ON SEPTEMBER 15, 2022 WHICH VACATED,
11:44:18AM CLOSED AND ABANDONED THE ALLEYWAY DESCRIBED BELOW TO CORRECT
11:44:24AM SCRIVENER ERRORS IN SECTION 2 THEREOF, PROVIDING CONFLICTS,
11:44:31AM SEVERABILITY AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:44:34AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:44:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND
11:44:37AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:44:38AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:44:40AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.
11:44:42AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SAW TWO MORE INDIVIDUALS COMING IN
11:44:46AM QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARINGS.
11:44:48AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPEAK ON THINKING FROM 82 AND 83, AND
11:44:53AM YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SWORN IN, MR. SCAGLIONE.
11:44:57AM COME AND STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL SWEAR
11:45:00AM YOU IN.
11:45:00AM [SWEARING IN]
11:45:04AM >> YES, I DO.
11:45:05AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 80.
11:45:12AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCIL.
11:45:13AM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
11:45:15AM ITEM 80 IS SU-2, 23-09.
11:45:19AM PROPERTY LOCATED 16001, TAMPA BOULEVARD.
11:45:26AM SPECIAL USE REQUEST FOR RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE-THROUGH WINDOW
11:45:31AM AND THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.
11:45:34AM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING.
11:45:37AM CHANGES HAPPENED MAY.
11:45:38AM THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED AND PROVIDED TO THE CLERK.
11:45:42AM I AM AVAILABLE IN YOU HAVE I DIDN'T IF HE IS.
11:45:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK?
11:45:51AM >> TOMAS ENGINEERING GROUP.
11:45:52AM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
11:45:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMEMBERS.
11:45:56AM IF NOT, ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER
11:46:00AM 80.
11:46:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:46:02AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:46:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FILE NUMBER SU-223-09 ORDINANCE FOR SECOND
11:46:13AM READING AND ADOPTION.
11:46:14AM SPECIAL USE PERMIT SU-2 APPROVING A RESTAURANT WITH
11:46:20AM DRIVE-THRU WINDOW IN THE GENERAL OF 16001 TAMPA PALMS
11:46:25AM BOULEVARD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY
11:46:28AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 HEREOF PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:46:33AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:46:36AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:46:42AM RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:46:44AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:46:46AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
11:46:48AM CONGRATULATIONS.
11:46:49AM 81.
11:46:50AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:46:51AM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION OPINION ITEM
11:46:55AM 81 REZ 2428 PROPERTY 1102 WEST OHIO AVENUE.
11:47:01AM A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RS-60 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
11:47:05AM TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
11:47:07AM A EUCLIDIAN REQUEST SO NO SITE PLAN A ASSOCIATED WITH THIS
11:47:12AM REQUEST AND THIS ITEM IS BEFORE YOU TODAY FOR SECOND
11:47:15AM READING.
11:47:15AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:47:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR MISS DOCK?
11:47:20AM NO?
11:47:20AM MR. SCAGLIONE, COME ON UP.
11:47:26AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:47:27AM THANK YOU FOR VOTING ON THE FIRST READING.
11:47:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING YOU WISH TO ADD TO THE RECORD?
11:47:34AM >> NO, SIR.
11:47:34AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
11:47:37AM 81.
11:47:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO.
11:47:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:47:41AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WERE THE ONLY REGISTERED SPEAKER,
11:47:45AM BUT YOU ARE HERE FOR THE RECORD.
11:47:46AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, READ 81.
11:47:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: MARTY, OKAY THAT I MOVE IT EVEN THOUGH I
11:47:53AM WASN'T HERE.
11:47:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU STATED YOU READ THE RECORD.
11:47:56AM >>BILL CARLSON: REZ 2428.
11:48:00AM ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 1102
11:48:06AM WEST OHIO AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE
11:48:08AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED FROM RS 06 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY
11:48:12AM TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
11:48:17AM DATE.
11:48:17AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:48:20AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
11:48:22AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:48:23AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:48:28AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CONGRATULATIONS, SIR.
11:48:30AM >> THANK YOU.
11:48:31AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH ITEM NUMBER 82.
11:48:33AM MISS DOCK.
11:48:35AM >>LaCHONE DOCK: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:48:36AM LaCHONE DOCK, LAND DEVELOPMENT.
11:48:39AM REZ 24-29.
11:48:41AM PROPERTY EAST 21st AVENUE.
11:48:44AM THIS REQUEST IS REZONE FROM RS-50 SINGLE-FAMILY TO RM-18.
11:48:51AM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
11:48:53AM THIS REQUEST IS A EUCLIDIAN REQUEST.
11:48:56AM NO SITE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST AND AVAILABLE
11:49:00AM BEFORE YOU FOR SECOND READING.
11:49:01AM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:49:04AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT FOR ITEM 82?
11:49:08AM >> YES, SIR.
11:49:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND WE WILL
11:49:12AM SWEAR YOU IN.
11:49:12AM [SWEARING IN]
11:49:17AM >> YES.
11:49:18AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
11:49:22AM STATE YOUR NAME.
11:49:23AM >> I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND I
11:49:25AM APPRECIATE THE VOTE ON THE FIRST READING.
11:49:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT IS YOUR NAME, SIR?
11:49:30AM >> MICHAEL GENESKIS.
11:49:35AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYONE THE PUBLIC.
11:49:37AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:49:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:49:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:49:42AM 82.
11:49:43AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: FILE NUMBER 82, ERZ-24-29.
11:49:47AM ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING ADOPTION FOR REZONING PROPERTY
11:49:51AM IN THE GENERAL 1408 EAST 21st AVENUE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
11:49:55AM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED AS RS-50 RESIDENTIAL
11:50:02AM SINGLE-FAMILY AND RM-18, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDING
11:50:06AM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:50:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:50:09AM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:50:12AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
11:50:13AM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:50:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 10:30 PUBLIC HEARING.
11:50:20AM ITEM 8.
11:50:21AM YES, MA'AM, MISS JOHNSON-VEL.
11:50:26AM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: ITEM NUMBER 83 IS A PUBLIC HEARING,
11:50:28AM THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE
11:50:32AM FOR AN AMENDMENT TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
11:50:36AM THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THE MIDTOWN
11:50:39AM DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
11:50:40AM THIS AMENDMENT AS WITH THE PRIOR TWO, WOULD ALLOW LIMITED
11:50:45AM ENCROACHMENT INTO THE PUBLIC DRAINAGE EASEMENT.
11:50:49AM THE PARTICULAR ENCROACHMENT PURSUANT IS FOR THE UNDERGROUND
11:50:53AM ELECTRIC CONDUIT.
11:50:54AM AND FOR A CANOPY STRUCTURE BOTH OF WHICH ARE IDENTIFIED IN
11:50:58AM EXHIBITS -- GRAPHIC TO THE AGREEMENT SO THEIR SPECIFIC
11:51:03AM LOCATION IS EASILY IDENTIFIABLE AND THAT THIS AMENDMENT WAS
11:51:08AM NEGOTIATED WITH -- IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STORMWATER
11:51:11AM DEPARTMENT.
11:51:11AM SO THERE ARE PROTECTIONS BUILT INTO THE AGREEMENT TO PROTECT
11:51:14AM OUR FACILITIES AND PROVIDE FOR REMEDIAL ACTION IN CASES
11:51:19AM THERE ANY ACTION FROM THE FACILITIES FROM THESE EN
11:51:22AM DEVELOPMENT.
11:51:22AM THE DEVELOPER'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE AND MAY WANT TO ADD
11:51:25AM SOMETHING TO THAT.
11:51:26AM I WILL NOTE, THERE ARE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS REQUIRED.
11:51:28AM SECOND PUBLIC IS SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 20, SO COUNCIL DOES NOT
11:51:33AM NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THE RESOLUTION AT THE END OF THIS
11:51:36AM PUBLIC HEARING.
11:51:37AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:51:38AM MR. MANASSE.
11:51:41AM >> GREAT SEEING EVERYBODY, RYAN MANASSE.
11:51:45AM SUSAN DID A GREAT JOB DISCUSSING THE TWO ENCROACHMENTS
11:51:50AM THROUGH THE AMENDMENT.
11:51:51AM I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHOULD COUNCIL HAVE ANY.
11:51:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE GENTLEMAN?
11:51:57AM NO?
11:51:58AM ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK ON ITEM 83?
11:52:02AM I SEE NONE.
11:52:02AM NEED A TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:52:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO MOVED.
11:52:07AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
11:52:08AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
11:52:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAVE THAT ANNOUNCED PLEASE FROM THE CLERK.
11:52:14AM >>CLERK: SECOND PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD ON JUNE 20, 2024
11:52:19AM AT 9:30 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 E. KENNEDY
11:52:24AM BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33062.
11:52:29AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:52:31AM A FEW MINUTES EARLY AND BREAK FOR LUNCH A FEW MINUTES EARLY.
11:52:35AM WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, WE WILL COME BACK AT 1:30.
11:52:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE A NICE YOUNG
11:52:41AM MAN.
11:52:41AM HE IS THE FELLA BEHIND ME GABRIEL LOPEZ WHO AN INTERN.
11:52:46AM HE GOES TO CARROLLWOOD DAY SCHOOL AND INCOMING TENTH-GRADER
11:52:50AM AND A WONDERFUL YOUNG MAN WHOSE FAMILY IS ORIGINALLY FROM
11:52:54AM NICARAGUA AND A FINE GUY AND FINE YOUNG MAN AND GOOD TO HAVE
11:52:58AM YOU.
11:52:58AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SAID YOU HAD MY AUNT AS SPANISH
11:53:03AM TEACHER?
11:53:05AM MY AUNT TEACHES AT THE DAY SCHOOL.
11:53:08AM ALL RIGHT.
11:53:10AM WE ARE IN RECESS UNTIL 1:30.
11:53:13AM
01:32:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELCOME BACK TO TAMPA CITY COUNCIL.
01:32:26PM ROLL CALL PLEASE.
01:32:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
01:32:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
01:32:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
01:32:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
01:32:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
01:32:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:32:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:32:36PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:32:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:32:39PM WE WILL CONTINUE ON WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING.
01:32:41PM ITEM NUMBER 84.
01:32:43PM A MOTION TO OPEN THE 1:30 PUBLIC HEARING.
01:32:45PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:32:47PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
01:32:49PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
01:32:50PM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM 84.
01:32:53PM PLEASE STAND AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
01:32:55PM WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN [SWEARING IN]
01:33:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:33:12PM YES, MA'AM.
01:33:13PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CAMARIA
01:33:19PM PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
01:33:21PM HERE ON ITEM 84.
01:33:22PM A REVIEW HEARING FOR AN ACTION DE 124-12 FOR THE PROPERTY
01:33:28PM LOCATED AT 910 WEST GRAY STREET.
01:33:31PM THE PETITIONER'S NAME IS MISS CHERYL FENNELL.
01:33:34PM I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCED YOUR NAME.
01:33:38PM SHE MADE A REQUEST TO CITY STAFF TO REDUCE THE SIDE YARD
01:33:43PM SETBACK AND FRONT YARD SETBACK.
01:33:45PM STAFF DENIED THE APPLICATION ON JANUARY 25, 2024.
01:33:49PM CITY COUNCIL, IN THE PACKET THAT HOPEFULLY YOU RECEIVED, I
01:33:54PM PROVIDED A COPY OF CODE SECTION 27-61 WHICH GOVERNS THE
01:33:59PM PROVISIONS FOR A REVIEW HEARING.
01:34:01PM ALSO, I PROVIDED STAFF IN THEIR STAFF REPORT, PROVIDED FOR
01:34:06PM YOU A COPY OF CODE SECTION 27-141 WHICH IS THE WEST TAMPA
01:34:12PM OVERLAY DISTRICT STANDARDS.
01:34:14PM I PROVIDED SAMPLE MOTIONS AND RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR CITY
01:34:18PM COUNCIL TO USE IN ORDER TO CONDUCT THIS HEARING.
01:34:20PM THE STANDARD OF REVIEW FOR THIS MATTER IS A DE NOVO STANDARD
01:34:26PM OF VERY VIEW.
01:34:28PM DE NOVO MEANS, YOU ARE NOT LIMITED TO WHAT IS PROVIDED TO
01:34:33PM STAFF.
01:34:33PM YOU ARE OPEN TO RECEIVE NEW INFORMATION AND DOCUMENTATION OR
01:34:38PM EVIDENCE THAT WAS -- THAT CAN BE SUBMITTED THIS AFTERNOON.
01:34:42PM STAFF -- MR. DAVID HUNTER FROM THE ZONING DEPARTMENT,
01:34:51PM PLANNING DEPARTMENT WILL GO OVER THE PRESENTATION FOR
01:34:54PM STAFF'S DENIAL OF THE DECISION AND OVERVIEW OF THE
01:34:56PM APPLICATION SUBMITTED TO STAFF.
01:34:58PM ONCE CITY COUNCIL HEARS FROM ALL PARTIES AND MEMBERS OF THE
01:35:03PM PUBLIC, CITY COUNCIL CAN TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS.
01:35:06PM CITY COUNCIL CAN AFFIRM THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
01:35:10PM ADMINISTRATOR WHO DENIED THE REQUEST TO WAIVE THE SPECIFIC
01:35:15PM SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY DISTRICT
01:35:19PM 27-241.
01:35:20PM OR CITY COUNCIL CAN OVERTURN THE DECISION OF THE ZONING
01:35:23PM ADMINISTRATOR'S DECISION AND THEREFORE WAIVE THE SPECIFIC
01:35:27PM SETBACK REDUCTION REQUESTS BY THE PETITIONER.
01:35:30PM AGAIN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO REVIEW CODE SECTION 27-61.
01:35:36PM ALSO FOR THE REVIEW HEARING AND CODE SECTION 27-60 WHICH
01:35:42PM GOVERNS THE PROCESS AND THE CRITERIA USED TO DETERMINE
01:35:47PM WHETHER TO APPROVE OR DENY A DESIGN EXCEPTION.
01:35:50PM FOR THAT, TURN IT OVER TO MR. HUNTER.
01:35:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:35:54PM >> CAN WE HAVE THEM TURN ON THE -- CAN YOU TURN ON THE POWER
01:36:12PM -- THERE YOU GO.
01:36:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WILL TURN ON WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING
01:36:18PM DOWN.
01:36:18PM THE POWERPOINT.
01:36:19PM >> MY NAME IS DAVID HUNTER, THE PLANNING AND DESIGN
01:36:23PM COORDINATOR FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:36:25PM WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS DE 1, 4-12 FOR A THE PROPERTY AT 1910
01:36:33PM WEST GRAY STREET.
01:36:34PM THE CURRENT ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IS RS-50 IN THE WEST
01:36:37PM TAMPA OVERLAY.
01:36:38PM THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A CARPORT EDITION TO THE FRONT AND
01:36:43PM SIDE OF THE PRIMARY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
01:36:47PM NEXT SLIDE.
01:36:49PM CONTROL THE SLIDE HERE.
01:36:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: IS SOMETHING BURNING?
01:36:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE SMELL SOMETHING BURNING.
01:37:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO CHECK IT OUT.
01:37:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SMELLS LIKE TOAST.
01:37:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SOMETHING ELECTRICAL.
01:37:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT THE SIGN OF A STROKE.
01:37:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
01:37:23PM IS IT GOOD?
01:37:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: SORRY, EVERYBODY, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE
01:37:54PM THERE WASN'T ANYTHING BAD HAPPENING.
01:37:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE AIDES ARE SEARCHING.
01:37:59PM >> SHOULD I CONTINUE?
01:38:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
01:38:02PM >> WE WILL STOP IF WE SEE FLAMES, I GUESS.
01:38:05PM SO AS I WAS SAYING, THIS IS -- THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RS-50
01:38:13PM LOCATED IN THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.
01:38:15PM THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP.
01:38:18PM YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND OTHER HOUSES ON THE
01:38:20PM BLOCK.
01:38:21PM I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH ADDITIONAL PHOTOGRAPHS FOR THAT.
01:38:24PM THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY, THE FRONT YARD SETBACK IS DETERMINED
01:38:29PM BY BLOCK AVERAGE.
01:38:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS COMING FROM?
01:38:42PM ALL THE WAY FROM THERE?
01:38:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I KNOW WHAT IT WAS BECAUSE WHEN I COOK,
01:38:50PM THAT IS WHAT IT SMELLS LIKE.
01:38:51PM >> I AM GOING TO SAY IT WASN'T ME.
01:38:54PM SO IN WEST TAMPA, THE OVERLAY ARE -- THE FRONT YARD SETBACK
01:38:59PM IS DETERMINED BY THE BLOCK AVERAGE.
01:39:02PM YOU LOOK AT ALL THE HOUSES AND THAT IS HOW YOU DETERMINE
01:39:06PM YOUR FRONT-YARD SETBACK.
01:39:07PM THE FRONT-YARD SETBACK IS FIVE FEET.
01:39:12PM ANOTHER AERIAL SHOT.
01:39:13PM IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, THIS IS LOOKING OVERHEAD AND ALSO
01:39:19PM SOUTH.
01:39:19PM THE WHITE ROOF STRUCTURE IS THE CARPORT IN QUESTION THAT HAS
01:39:26PM ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
01:39:28PM YOU CAN SEE HOW IT COMES ALL THE WAY UP TO THE PROPERTY
01:39:32PM LINE.
01:39:32PM THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH TAKEN FROM GOOGLE STREET VIEW.
01:39:38PM THERE IS A CODE CASE AGAINST THIS.
01:39:41PM AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL PHOTOGRAPHS.
01:39:47PM YOU CAN SEE IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE
01:39:50PM AND TO THE FRONT.
01:39:51PM THIS IS THE SURVEY AND THE SITE MAP PROVIDED FOR US.
01:39:54PM THEY DON'T NECESSARILY CORRELATE TO EACH OTHER, AND SO WE
01:40:02PM LOOK AT REALLY WHAT IS THERE.
01:40:04PM AND THE SURVEY HERE.
01:40:07PM OUR STANDARD FOR REVIEW HAS BEEN INDICATED.
01:40:13PM WE LOOK AT 27-60, WHERE WE REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO REQUIRE
01:40:18PM JUSTIFICATION BASED ON THIS CRITERIA FOR APPROVAL OR DENIAL
01:40:22PM OF THAT DESIGN EXCEPTION.
01:40:24PM AND IN THIS CASE THE STAFF DETERMINED THEY DID NOT PROVIDE
01:40:31PM ADEQUATE JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT CRITERIA FOR THE REDUCTION
01:40:35PM OF THE FRONT YARD SETBACK TO ZERO AND SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR
01:40:40PM ONE FEET.
01:40:40PM THE SITE PLAN WAS NOT CLEAR AND THE JUSTIFICATION WAS NOT A
01:40:45PM ADEQUATE.
01:40:46PM SPEAKING OF THAT.
01:40:47PM THIS -- CAN WE SWITCH TO THE OVERHEAD HERE.
01:40:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THERE YOU GO.
01:40:55PM >> CAN YOU GUYS SEE THAT.
01:40:59PM THE LETTER OF JUSTIFICATION FROM THE APPLICANT.
01:41:02PM THE BIG TAKE AWAY FROM HERE IS THAT THE APPLICANT HAD THIS
01:41:09PM BUILT BACK IN 2010.
01:41:10PM THEY DID HIRE A CONTRACTOR AND PROVIDED A COPY OF THE
01:41:14PM RECEIPT FROM THAT CONTRACT.
01:41:17PM THE CONTRACTOR DID NOT PULL THE PERMIT BACK IN 2010, SO
01:41:21PM EFFECTIVELY, IT WAS BUILT WITHOUT A PERMIT.
01:41:24PM FROM THE EYES OF THE CITY, THIS IS AS IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT
01:41:27PM IT FOR THE FIRST TIME.
01:41:28PM IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN APPROVED QUITE FRANKLY IN 2010.
01:41:32PM IF THEY CAME IN NOW, WE WILL BE AT THE SAME BOAT.
01:41:35PM ADDITIONAL PHOTOGRAPHS.
01:41:39PM THIS IS WHAT THE PROJECT LOOKS LIKE NOW A LITTLE BIT MORE
01:41:42PM CLEAR.
01:41:45PM THE CARPORT AND HOW CLOSE IT IS RELATIVE TO THE OTHER
01:41:49PM STRUCTURES.
01:41:49PM IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT WHEN THE CARPORT IS ATTACHED LIKE
01:41:54PM THIS.
01:41:54PM IT IS CONSIDERED PART OF PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE FOR FRONT, REAR
01:42:01PM AND SIDE.
01:42:01PM NOT A SEPARATE ITEM.
01:42:02PM SO IT DOES HAVE TO MEET PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE SETBACKS.
01:42:06PM THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN 2009 PRIOR TO THAT.
01:42:09PM THESE ARE PICTURES TAKEN FROM -- FROM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT
01:42:14PM CASE THAT IS CURRENTLY PENDING.
01:42:16PM YOU CAN SEE THE PROXIMITY TO THE SIDEWALK.
01:42:20PM THE SIDE -- -- RIGHT ON THE SIDE.
01:42:28PM A MEASURE OF ABOUT NINE INCHES TO THE POST OF THE ADJACENT
01:42:33PM FENCE.
01:42:33PM AND YOU CAN SEE HOW -- HOW CLOSE THAT IS.
01:42:36PM THERE WAS -- THERE WAS ONE NEIGHBOR THAT SUBMITTED SUPPORT
01:42:42PM FOR THE CASE WHICH I AM SURE YOU SEE A COPY OF.
01:42:48PM BASICALLY THIS -- THIS HAD MORE TO DO WITH -- WITH A
01:42:53PM COMPLAINING NEIGHBOR THAT FILED THE COMPLAINT WHICH IS WHY
01:42:59PM WE ARE HERE TODAY.
01:43:00PM THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
01:43:01PM FRONT YARDS ARE DETERMINED BY BLOCK AVERAGING.
01:43:04PM AS FAR AS CAR PORTS CAN GO.
01:43:07PM IF THEY ARE ON YOUR SIDE AND PROPERLY PLACED, ONE-CAR
01:43:12PM CARPORT MAY BE PLACED WITHIN THREE FEET OF THE SITE PROPERTY
01:43:16PM LINE IF IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL LIFE SAFETY CODES.
01:43:19PM THIS IS -- THIS IS, AGAIN, A FOOT -- LESS THAN A FOOT FROM
01:43:24PM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE.
01:43:25PM AND WHAT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE, THIS IS NOT COMPLAINT
01:43:29PM WITH THE LIFE SAFETY CODES.
01:43:31PM I AM A REGISTERED ARCHITECT.
01:43:33PM I HAVE DONE THIS PLENTY OF TIMES.
01:43:35PM THIS IS TOO CLOSE AND IT WILL NOT PASS PERMITTING BECAUSE OF
01:43:38PM THE PROXIMITY FROM THAT PROPERTY LINE ANYWAY.
01:43:42PM AND THAT IS MY PRESENTATION.
01:43:46PM I AM OPEN FOR QUESTIONS SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY.
01:43:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
01:43:52PM NO?
01:43:53PM YES, SIR.
01:43:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE RULES IN PLACE -- IF YOU HAVE THE
01:43:57PM DATED CONTRACT, WHAT ARE THE RULES IN PLACE WHEN THAT
01:44:00PM CONTRACT WAS LET?
01:44:04PM >> THE -- IT STARTED -- OVERLAY CAME INTO PLAY IN 2004.
01:44:08PM AND WHATEVER THE -- THE CODE REQUIREMENTS AT THAT TIME -- I
01:44:16PM DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFICS.
01:44:17PM LET ME PUT IT THAT WAY.
01:44:18PM >> THE SAME RULES THAT ARE IN PLAY.
01:44:21PM >> AMENDMENTS EFFECTIVELY YES.
01:44:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
01:44:25PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:44:25PM WE GO TO THE APPLICANT/PETITIONER.
01:44:29PM WHO IS THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE.
01:44:30PM COME ON UP MA'AM.
01:44:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HI, HOW WILL YOU, PLEASE STATE YOUR
01:44:58PM NAME.
01:44:58PM >> CHERYL GREAUX FENNELL.
01:45:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD.
01:45:03PM >> I LIVE AT 1910 WEST GRAY STREET.
01:45:07PM THE HOME I PURCHASED IN JUNE 1980 FOR MYSELF AND MY SON.
01:45:12PM EVEN THOUGH I WAS A SINGLE MOM, I WAS ABLE TO WORK AND SAVE
01:45:16PM TO MAINTAIN UPKEEP ON OUR HOME AND MAKE ENHANCEMENT TO MY
01:45:22PM PROPERTY.
01:45:22PM IN AUGUST 2010, I CONTRACTED AND PAID ED ALUMINIUM
01:45:29PM CONSTRUCTION A LICENSED BONDED COMPANY TO BUILD A CARPORT AT
01:45:34PM MY HOME.
01:45:34PM I PROVIDED A SURVEY OF MY PROPERTY AND RELIED ON THE COMPANY
01:45:40PM TO BUILD MY CARPORT WITHIN CITY OF TAMPA GUIDELINES WHICH
01:45:44PM WOULD INCLUDE BEING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S SETBACK
01:45:47PM RULES.
01:45:48PM APRIL 21, THE -- I MEANT TO SHOW YOU -- A COPY OF THE YEAH.
01:46:03PM OKAY.
01:46:06PM FOR 2021, THE CITY OF TAMPA WIDENED THE 1900 BLOCK OF GRAY.
01:46:12PM REPLACE SEVERAL -- REPLACE SEWER PIPES AND ADD SIDEWALKS.
01:46:17PM MY DRIVEWAY WAS DUG UP AND REPLACED BY THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:46:26PM CONTRARY TO THE RISKS REPRESENTED INFORMATION AND CODE
01:46:39PM ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINT THAT SOMEONE FILED AGAINST ME, MY
01:46:43PM CARPORT WAS 11 YEARS PRIOR -- OKAY, THAT IS THE COMPLAINT.
01:46:54PM OKAY.
01:46:56PM MY CARPORT WAS BUILT 11 YEARS PRIOR TO THE ROAD WIDENING
01:47:02PM SEWER REPLACEMENT WORK THAT THE CITY COMPLETED IN 2021.
01:47:05PM THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN VERY STRESSFUL STARTING WITH THE
01:47:10PM FABRICATED COMPLAINT FILED AGAINST ME WITH THE CODE
01:47:13PM ENFORCEMENT HAVING A COMPLETE DESIGN EXCEPTION PROCESS WHICH
01:47:18PM INCLUDED MAILING MY LETTERS TO MY COMMUNITY.
01:47:20PM PAYING FEES FOR DESIGN INSPECTION.
01:47:24PM PAYING OVER $200 AND THEN FINDING OUT AT THE 12th HOUR THAT
01:47:29PM THE DESIGN EXCEPTION WAS DENIED DUE TO BEING GIVEN THE WRONG
01:47:33PM SIGN TO POST IN MY YARD PROVIDED BY THE CITY, WHICH IT WAS
01:47:37PM ALSO STRESSED AND BE TOLD THAT I HAD TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS
01:47:41PM ALL OVER AGAIN DUE TO THE SIGN.
01:47:43PM BUT THANKFULLY THE MISTAKE WAS ACKNOWLEDGED AND THE ISSUE
01:47:48PM WAS SETTLED.
01:47:48PM I AM ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO GRANDFATHER AND APPROVE MY
01:47:52PM DESIGN EXCEPTION.
01:47:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:48:07PM SIR, ARE YOU PART OF THE PRESENTATION?
01:48:09PM ARE YOU WITH HER?
01:48:10PM ANY QUESTION FROM COUNCILMEMBERS?
01:48:12PM NO?
01:48:13PM AT THIS TIME WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:48:15PM THREE MINUTES PER PERSON UNLESS YOU ARE A SPEAKER WAIVER.
01:48:18PM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FOR OR AGAINST, PLEASE
01:48:21PM COME UP.
01:48:22PM AND STATE YOUR NAME.
01:48:23PM YES, MA'AM.
01:48:37PM >> MARILYN SANGER.
01:48:40PM NEIGHBORING HOUSE NEXT DOOR.
01:48:42PM 1912 WEST GRAY STREET.
01:48:44PM I AM THE INDIVIDUAL THAT FILED THE -- WHY WE ARE ALL HERE
01:48:48PM TODAY.
01:48:48PM I FILED THE COMPLAINT.
01:48:50PM MAY I PUT SOME PHOTOS ON HERE?
01:48:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, GO AHEAD.
01:48:55PM >> I REALIZE I HAVE THREE MINUTES SO I WILL STICK TO THE
01:49:04PM POINT AND THE PHOTOS SPEAK VERY CLEARLY.
01:49:07PM SO THE PHOTOS THAT WERE PRESENTED WERE GREAT, BUT I ALSO --
01:49:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE OTHER WAY.
01:49:16PM OKAY.
01:49:17PM >> ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS A DIFFERENT ANGLE WHICH IS EXCLUDED
01:49:22PM AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TOP EDGE OF THE -- THE EDGE -- THE
01:49:28PM EDGE OF THE CARPORT STICKS OUT FURTHER THAN THE POST THAT
01:49:32PM WAS MENTIONED.
01:49:33PM IT ACTUALLY RUNS OVER -- AS YOU CAN SEE, OVER THE FENCE.
01:49:38PM I HAVE A ANOTHER PHOTO OF ANOTHER SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ANGLE.
01:49:43PM AS YOU CAN SEE HERE.
01:49:47PM IT LITERALLY RUNS OVER THE FENCE.
01:49:51PM WHEN I PUT THAT FENCE UP, IT IS NOT ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
01:49:54PM IT IS INSIDE THE PROPERTY LINE.
01:49:56PM SO IT IS ON MY PROPERTY.
01:49:59PM THE EDGE -- THE OUTSIDE EDGE OF THE FENCE IS WHERE THE
01:50:03PM PROPERTY LINE IS.
01:50:04PM SO MY FENCE IS WITHIN -- SO THAT TO HELP ILLUSTRATE WHERE
01:50:10PM THE EDGE OF THIS CARPORT IS RUNNING.
01:50:13PM AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PRIOR PHOTOS, AS WELL AS THIS PHOTO
01:50:22PM HERE, IT RUNS PRETTY -- PRETTY LONG LENGTH OF THE FENCE, AS
01:50:28PM YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PHOTO HERE.
01:50:30PM MAKE SURE WE ARE ALL SEE IT.
01:50:33PM PART OF -- TWO MAIN ISSUES WE ARE HAVING.
01:50:37PM ONE WHICH IS ILLUSTRATED IN ONE OF THE PHOTOS THAT THE
01:50:40PM GENTLEMAN SHARED.
01:50:40PM THIS IS NOT AS CLEAR.
01:50:42PM THE DOWNSPOUT OF THIS GUTTER IS SHOOTING INTO MY YARD AND
01:50:51PM THIS IS THE MAIN REASON I HAVE THIS COMPLAINT.
01:50:54PM MY SIDE YARD EVERY IT RAINS GETS FLOODED AND DOESN'T JUST
01:51:00PM RAIN AND STOP AND THE WATER GOES AWAY.
01:51:01PM I AM HAVING LARGE PUDDLES SITTING IN MY YARD.
01:51:05PM IMAGINE, EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
01:51:06PM IT KILLED ALL MY GRASS.
01:51:08PM ALL I HAVE IS SAND IN MY SIDE YARD BECAUSE OF THIS.
01:51:12PM AT THE BEGINNING AS I APPROACH MISS CHERYL, I BOUGHT THOSE
01:51:18PM BENDY PLASTIC THINGS TO SEND IT DOWN THE DRIVEWAY.
01:51:22PM FOR SOME REASON, THEY KEEP GETTING REMOVED.
01:51:25PM I AM EXHAUSTED TO THE POINT I AM NOT GOING TO KEEP SPENDING
01:51:29PM MY MONEY WHEN IT KEEPS GETTING REMOVED.
01:51:31PM THE OTHER MAIN PROBLEM I AM HAVING BECAUSE IT IS SO CLOSE,
01:51:37PM WHEN THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO -- I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE
01:51:41PM CLEANING OR WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO.
01:51:43PM THEY ARE CLIMBING ON MY FENCE TO DO -- I MEAN -- I THINK THE
01:51:48PM PHOTO IS SELF-EXPLANATORY.
01:51:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.
01:51:54PM >> I APPRECIATE IT.
01:51:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
01:51:58PM NECK SPEAKER.
01:51:59PM YES, SIR.
01:52:06PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
01:52:07PM MY NAME IS MICHAEL CARLSON.
01:52:09PM 1908 WEST GRAY STREET.
01:52:12PM I GUESS FIRST AND FOREMOST, REAL QUICK.
01:52:15PM THIS IS THE ACTUAL SURVEY THAT -- AND IT SHOWS -- YOU CAN
01:52:26PM HAVE A COPY BUT THE FENCE SHE IS SPEAKING ON HER PROPERTY,
01:52:30PM 1910'S PROPERTY NOT 1912 PROPERTY.
01:52:34PM SHE IS OVER THE PROPERTY LINE.
01:52:37PM AS FAR AS HISTORICAL REFERENCE AND SO ON GOES, THE RESIDENT,
01:52:42PM WHEN SHE PURCHASED HER HOME AND LOOK AT HER SURVEY.
01:52:46PM IT SHOWS THE ACTUAL STRUCTURE AND SHOWS THE CARPORT IS
01:52:49PM THERE.
01:52:50PM WHEN SHE BOUGHT HER PLACE, KNEW IT WAS THERE.
01:52:53PM ONLY BROUGHT THIS UP BECAUSE PERSONAL ISSUES OR, YOU KNOW,
01:52:57PM THAT ARE GOING ON BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS.
01:52:59PM SO SHE WAITED OVER A YEAR TO FILE THIS COMPLAINT AFTER THE
01:53:04PM NEIGHBOR STOPPED SPEAKING WITH HER.
01:53:07PM FIRST AND FOREMOST.
01:53:09PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERLAY IN THE RULES THAT GOVERN THE
01:53:12PM ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE STREETS.
01:53:13PM WHAT IS NOT SHOWN OR DISCUSSED IS THERE IS -- THERE IS A
01:53:16PM UNIT NEXT TO MY PROPERTY THAT IS WITHIN TWO FEET OF MY
01:53:19PM PROPERTY THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THREE FEET APART.
01:53:21PM AT LEAST FOUR HOMES THAT HAVE THREE FEET BETWEEN SPACE THAT
01:53:25PM YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FOR STRUCTURE.
01:53:27PM SO IF WE ARE GOING TO START ENFORCING SOME OF THESE
01:53:31PM DIFFERENT ITEMS, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING
01:53:34PM ON OUR STREET BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS ARE NOT IN COMPLIANCE.
01:53:38PM INCLUDING THE HOUSE LOCATED AT 1912 AND 1914.
01:53:42PM IF YOU HOOK AT THE HOUSE THERE.
01:53:44PM THE ATTORNEY WAS REFERRING EARLIER -- ABOUT THE AVERAGE OF
01:53:48PM THE SETBACK.
01:53:49PM THAT HOUSE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 37 FEET FROM THE STREET.
01:53:51PM SO THEIR HOUSE IS LIKE 35 FEET AND SOME CHANGE.
01:53:59PM HER HOUSE IS TWO FEET TOO CLOSE TO THE STREET.
01:54:02PM ALL I AM ASKING SOME VARIANCES HERE.
01:54:04PM FOR SOME REASON, SHE IS BEING SINGLED OUT.
01:54:07PM BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO ENFORCE THE RULES, I ASK THAT YOU
01:54:11PM LOOK AT -- OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF ISSUES GOING ON IN THE
01:54:14PM NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:54:14PM A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROPERTIES NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
01:54:17PM BACK SETBACK OR THE SIDE SETBACK.
01:54:19PM THESE HOMES HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
01:54:21PM THIS CARPORT HAS BEEN THERE FOR, LIKE, 14 YEARS.
01:54:25PM THE WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOUSE, EVEN THOUGH THAT STRUCTURE WAS
01:54:29PM TOO CLOSE TO MY PROPERTY.
01:54:31PM I KNEW IT WHEN I BOUGHT IT.
01:54:32PM IT WAS ON THE SURVEY.
01:54:33PM I DIDN'T ASK FOR IT TO BE MOVED AND ANYTHING TO BE DON WITH
01:54:38PM IT.
01:54:38PM TAKE THE SAME STANCE THAT SHE KNEW WHEN SHE BOUGHT THE HOUSE
01:54:42PM IT WAS ON THE SURVEY.
01:54:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
01:54:46PM YES, MA'AM.
01:54:47PM >> I AM CONNIE BURTON.
01:54:49PM OF COURSE I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN ANY OF IT.
01:54:53PM THE ONE THING I WANT TO SAY IS I KNOW SHE WAS WORKED YEARS
01:55:00PM AGO AT HONEYWELL AND A POINT OF PRIDE WHEN WORKING-CLASS
01:55:05PM WOMEN AFTER WORKING 12, 15 HOURS A WEEK WOULD GO INTO
01:55:12PM HOMEOWNERSHIP.
01:55:12PM THAT MEANT A LOT TO A LOT OF THE WOMEN WORKING AT HONEYWELL
01:55:16PM AT THAT TIME.
01:55:17PM I AM LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, NOW WE HAVE THESE BIG HUGE
01:55:21PM STRUCTURES OF A HOME COMING INTO ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.
01:55:25PM AND WHAT SEEMED TO BE MISS SOMETHING THAT GOOD NEIGHBOR
01:55:29PM QUALITY.
01:55:31PM THAT NOW THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 20-PLUS
01:55:36PM YEARS.
01:55:36PM WHEN CITY STAFF, CODE ENFORCEMENT AND WHOMEVER AND WHY THEY
01:55:45PM WEREN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO THE MINUTE DETAILS, NOW IT
01:55:50PM BECOMES A BIG ISSUE.
01:55:51PM THE HUGE HOMES ARE REALLY A BIG, BIG ISSUE TO THE COMMUNITY
01:55:55PM BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY FIT INTO THIS
01:55:58PM COMMUNITY THAT IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
01:55:59PM THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO.
01:56:02PM BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I WILL HOPE YOU WOULD SET THE TONE OF
01:56:07PM HOW WE CAN HAVE A GOOD NEIGHBOR BY NEIGHBOR POLICY.
01:56:11PM YOU CAN'T MAKE ME LIKE YOU, BUT FOR 14 YEARS I HAVE BEEN
01:56:16PM ESTABLISHED 20-PLUS YEARS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND GOOD
01:56:20PM FAITH MOVED TOWARD ESTABLISHING THE UPKEEP OF MY HOME, THE
01:56:24PM IMPROVEMENT OF MY HOME NOW, ONE SIMPLE COMPLAINT WITH TURN A
01:56:28PM WHOLE COMMUNITY UPSIDE DOWN.
01:56:30PM I AM HOPING THAT YOU WOULD AGREE WITH MISS FENNELL AND MOVE
01:56:39PM TO GRANDFATHER HER STRUCTURE IN.
01:56:43PM NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR, HOW CAN PEOPLE GET ALONG.
01:56:46PM BUT WE SIMPLY CANNOT HAVE BECAUSE NEWER PEOPLE, WELCOME TO
01:56:51PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
01:56:51PM COME IN.
01:56:52PM AND CAN SET COMPLAINTS THAT CAN TURN A WHOLE COMMUNITY
01:56:58PM UPSIDE DOWN.
01:56:58PM THANK YOU.
01:56:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:57:00PM NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
01:57:02PM YES, MA'AM.
01:57:03PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
01:57:04PM >> ROBIN LOCKETT.
01:57:07PM SO THE GENTLEMAN WITH THE DESIGN EXCEPTION, HE INDICATED
01:57:13PM THAT -- I THINK HE ONLY RECEIVED ONE LETTER FROM THE
01:57:19PM COMMUNITY.
01:57:19PM I HAVE SEVEN OR EIGHT OF SUPPORT.
01:57:21PM HER NEIGHBORS THAT SUPPORT HER AND WANT THE COUNCIL TO
01:57:25PM GRANDFATHER THIS CARPORT IN.
01:57:27PM AND I AM PIGGYBACKING OFF OF CONNIE.
01:57:31PM YOU KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION THAT IS GOING
01:57:34PM ON.
01:57:34PM BIGGER HOUSES THAT ARE GOING ON, THAT IS COMING INTO -- INTO
01:57:38PM A COMMUNITY.
01:57:38PM THEY ARE NOT CREATING A COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY IS, THERE.
01:57:42PM AND WITH ONE COMPLAINT.
01:57:44PM AND THAT IS ALL IT TAKES, RIGHT.
01:57:46PM BUT WHAT DOES THAT -- WHAT HAPPENS AFTER THAT.
01:57:50PM DO OTHER PEOPLE START COMPLAINING SO EVERYBODY WILL HAD BEEN
01:57:54PM IN COMPLIANCE?
01:57:55PM THEY MOVED INTO THE COMMUNITY.
01:57:56PM SHE -- SHE TRIED TO DO THINGS RIGHT AND COUNCIL HAS SPOKEN
01:58:04PM ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
01:58:05PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA HAS.
01:58:08PM WHEN -- WHAT DO WE DO WHEN A PERSON DOES EVERYTHING THEY
01:58:12PM NEED TO DO RIGHT, GET A CONTRACTOR.
01:58:14PM SHE DIDN'T GET JOE BLOW OFF THE STREET.
01:58:17PM SHE GOT A CONTRACTOR.
01:58:19PM AND THAT CONTRACTOR DIDN'T DO HIS DUE DILIGENCE TO PULL
01:58:24PM PERMITS.
01:58:24PM TO FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES OF THE CITY.
01:58:30PM AND BACK THEN A LOT OF MONEY.
01:58:32PM TODAY IS A LOT OF MONEY BECAUSE SHE HAD TO SAVE FOR IT.
01:58:35PM WITH THAT CONTRACTOR NOT DOING DUE DILIGENCE TO DO WHAT IS
01:58:39PM RIGHT BY THE CITY, BY THE CODES AND GUIDELINES, NOW SHE IS
01:58:44PM SUFFERING FROM IT.
01:58:45PM SO I ASK THAT YOU DO GRANDFATHER HER CARPORT IN.
01:58:51PM YOU WILL GET A LOT OF THESE.
01:58:53PM YOU WILL HAVE PEOPLE FROM OTHER AREAS COMING IN THAT DON'T
01:58:57PM KNOW THE CULTURE OF -- OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEY ARE MOVING
01:59:00PM IN.
01:59:01PM AND THEY WILL WANT TO CHANGE EVERYTHING TO BE LIKE WHERE
01:59:04PM THEY MOVE FROM.
01:59:05PM TO BECOME WHERE THEY MOVE FROM.
01:59:07PM AND WE HAVE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
01:59:09PM THE GENTLEMAN THAT JUST SPOKE.
01:59:11PM MIKE -- MIKE -- I VISIT HIM.
01:59:14PM HE IS A GREAT NEIGHBOR OVER THERE.
01:59:16PM HE HELPS PEOPLE MOW THEIR LAWNS.
01:59:18PM HAVE CONVERSATIONS.
01:59:19PM GREAT NEIGHBOR.
01:59:20PM BUT THIS COMPLAINT, ALTHOUGH ERRONEOUS, YEAH, IT TAKES ONE,
01:59:31PM BUT SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO TEAR HER CARPORT DOWN OR WHATEVER
01:59:35PM BECAUSE -- A DELIBERATE ERROR.
01:59:38PM IT WAS DELIBERATE BECAUSE THE CONTRACTOR KNOWS THERE ARE
01:59:41PM GUIDELINES THAT HE HAS TO FOLLOW.
01:59:42PM SO HE, IN ESSENCE, STOLE HER MONEY BECAUSE NOW SHE IS IN
01:59:47PM THIS.
01:59:48PM PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO REALLY THINK ABOUT THIS.
01:59:51PM AND GRANDFATHER HER CARPORT INTO -- GRANDFATHER HER CARPORT
01:59:58PM IN I WILL GIVE YOU GUYS -- MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS.
02:00:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND WE WILL PUT IT
02:00:11PM INTO THE RECORD.
02:00:12PM ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK?
02:00:15PM YES, MA'AM.
02:00:15PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:00:21PM >> MISS JONES.
02:00:23PM I AM REPRESENTING THE CRIME WATCH GROUP.
02:00:26PM WE ARE IN FAVOR IN SUPPORTING HER CONCERNING THE PROPERTY IN
02:00:33PM THE CARPORT GETTING GRANDFATHERED IN.
02:00:37PM EVERYBODY ELSE WHO SPOKE SORT OF TOOK THE WORD OUT OF MY
02:00:40PM MOUTH, ESPECIALLY MISS BURTON BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN IN THIS
02:00:44PM NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 65 YEARS, OKAY.
02:00:46PM THIS IS THE THING.
02:00:48PM HOW I SEE IT.
02:00:49PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS CHANGING.
02:00:51PM WE ALL KNOW THAT.
02:00:53PM WE ARE CURRENTLY TRYING TO REVIVE SOME THINGS ON THE
02:00:56PM OVERLAY.
02:00:56PM BUT WHEN PEOPLE COME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO
02:01:01PM ALREADY HAVE ESTABLISHED AND KEPT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD STABLE
02:01:04PM AND THE WAY IT IS.
02:01:05PM SO IT IS CROWDED.
02:01:06PM THE DENSITY IS -- IS ONE AREA IS ONE THING.
02:01:11PM ANOTHER THING IS THE OTHER THING.
02:01:13PM SO YOU CAN'T JUST COME IN AND THINK THAT YOU CAN GET WHAT
02:01:18PM YOU WANT BECAUSE EVERYBODY GOT TO WORK TOGETHER.
02:01:23PM WHERE WE WERE RAISED, NEIGHBORS HELPED NEIGHBORS.
02:01:26PM EVERYBODY SAW ABOUT EVERYBODY.
02:01:28PM YOU COULDN'T HAVE ONE PERSON WHO COME IN HERE AND THINK THAT
02:01:31PM THEIR IDEOLOGY IS GOING TO OVERRULE THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:01:36PM SO YOU GOT TO BE SORT OF -- LEAN IN AND WORK WITH PEOPLE.
02:01:41PM BECAUSE -- AND IF WE -- IF WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A
02:01:46PM NEIGHBORHOOD WORK, WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER.
02:01:48PM THAT'S HOW I SEE IT.
02:01:50PM YOU CAN'T COME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THINK, OKAY.
02:01:53PM JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT IT THE WAY YOU WANT IT, THAT IS HOW IT
02:01:57PM GOES.
02:01:57PM YOU HAVE TO TRY TO BE NEIGHBORLY AND CONSIDERATE OF ALL
02:02:02PM PEOPLE.
02:02:03PM THAT IS HOW WE ARE RAISED TO TAKE A VILLAGE.
02:02:05PM WE HAVE A LOT OF U.T. STUDENTS.
02:02:09PM I DON'T LIKE EVERYTHING THEY DO BUT IT IS SOMEBODY'S CHILD.
02:02:13PM I AM TRYING TO SEE ABOUT IT AND TEACHING THEM THE RIGHT WAY
02:02:17PM AND THAT IS WHAT I AM SUPPOSED TO BE.
02:02:19PM EVERYBODY ELSE?
02:02:22PM YES, MA'AM.
02:02:22PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL, SANDRA DIEGO SANCHEZ, 705
02:02:38PM WEST FIG STREET, SEVEN BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE APPLICANT.
02:02:42PM I'M HERE TODAY IS AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN.
02:02:46PM THE APPLICANT PURCHASED HER HOME IN 1980.
02:02:50PM SOON AFTER THAT SHE HAD THE DRIVEWAY POURED.
02:02:52PM THE DRIVEWAY BEING POURED AND THE CARPORT ON TWO DIFFERENT
02:02:56PM DATES.
02:02:56PM AUGUST 2010, SHE HIRED A CONTRACTOR.
02:02:59PM AND THEY BUILT THE CARPORT ALMOST 14 YEARS AGO.
02:03:04PM THERE WAS A HOME WITH A CARPORT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET
02:03:08PM JUST TO THE SIDE LINE.
02:03:10PM THE LETTER BY CITY STAFF DENYING THIS REQUEST MAKES MENTION
02:03:15PM OF THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY.
02:03:16PM I HAD REASON RECENTLY TO PULL RECORDS ON THE WEST TAMPA
02:03:21PM OVERLAY BECAUSE WE ARE BEGINNING TO WORK ON EDITING IT.
02:03:25PM THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY WAS NOT APPROVED UNTIL 2015.
02:03:29PM ALL THIS WORK WAS DONE BEFORE THE OVERLAY AND SHOULD BE
02:03:35PM GRANDFATHERED IN.
02:03:37PM IF WE USE THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY AS A GUIDELINE FOR HOMES
02:03:42PM BUILT BEFORE 2015, MANY HERITAGE ERA HOMES WILL BE
02:03:48PM NONCOMPLIANT.
02:03:48PM I AM NOT SURE WHY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATION IS SO CONCERNED
02:03:52PM ABOUT THE SETBACK.
02:03:53PM JUST DOWN THE STREET AT 407 NORTH ALBANY IS A HOUSE
02:03:58PM COMPLETED IN 2022 WITH TOTAL DISREGARD TO SETBACKS.
02:04:02PM LEGAL SETBACKS WITHIN THE CITY CODE IS THE WEST TAMPA
02:04:08PM OVERLAY GUIDELINES.
02:04:08PM PERMITTING DID NOT NOTICE IT.
02:04:10PM IT IS FIVE HOUSE AWAY.
02:04:13PM I ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE OF TEN HOUSES THAT WERE IN A
02:04:17PM FIVE-BLOCK AREA OF THIS HOME, WHICH LAND DEVELOPMENT HAS
02:04:21PM TOTALLY IGNORED THE SETBACKS.
02:04:23PM NO DESIGN EXCEPTION, PERMITTING MISSED IT.
02:04:26PM WHY THIS SHOULD BE A BIG DEAL NOW, I DON'T KNOW.
02:04:29PM CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS DRIVEN BY THIS DRIVEWAY FOR OVER 25
02:04:34PM YEARS.
02:04:34PM INCLUDING THE CARPORT FOR 14 OF THOSE 25 YEARS AND NO ONE
02:04:39PM NOTICED.
02:04:39PM WHEN THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR WHO MADE MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS OF
02:04:45PM THIS APPLICANT ON THE SAME ISSUED PURCHASED HER HOME IN
02:04:49PM 2022.
02:04:49PM THIS CARPORT WAS IN PUBLIC VIEW.
02:04:51PM THE CARPORT AND ANY ACCOMPANYING ISSUES WERE THERE LONG
02:04:55PM BEFORE HE PURCHASED HER HOME.
02:04:56PM THE APPLICANT FILED THE RULES.
02:04:59PM HIRED A LICENSED CONTRACTOR AND BELIEVED THAT CONTRACTOR
02:05:02PM KNEW THE RULES OF THE CITY CODE TO MAKE IT COMPLIANT.
02:05:07PM PLEASE VOTE TO ALLOW THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION.
02:05:09PM IN CARPORT WAS BUILT 14 YEARS AGO.
02:05:12PM THE APPLICANT SHOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE THE FINANCIAL BURDEN
02:05:15PM OF TEARING IT DOWN WHEN IT HAS BEEN PART OF HER HOME FOR
02:05:19PM MANY YEARS.
02:05:20PM PLEASE HELP PRESERVE HER QUALITY OF LIFE AND ALLOW HER TO
02:05:23PM AGE IN PLACE PEACEFULLY.
02:05:27PM THANK YOU.
02:05:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
02:05:28PM ANYBODY ELSE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK?
02:05:44PM >> I HAVE BEEN SWORN IN.
02:05:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MA'AM, IF YOU CAN RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.
02:05:50PM YOU NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
02:05:52PM [SWEARING WERE IN]
02:05:55PM >> I AM HARRIET McCRAY AND ONE OF THE ORIGINAL MEMBERS
02:05:59PM WITH DAPHNE JONES THAT HELPED WRITE THE WEST TAMPA
02:06:05PM OVERLAY.
02:06:05PM WE SPENT TWO YEARS TO WRITE THE OVERLAY AND ONE OF THE
02:06:09PM REASONS WE DID IT TO KEEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD INTACT SO IT IS
02:06:13PM RECOGNIZABLE.
02:06:14PM THE OLD PARTS OF WEST TAMPA IS STILL EXISTING.
02:06:17PM AND ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE OVERLAY THAT WE DID DO
02:06:20PM WITHIN IT, THERE WAS A REVIEW PROCESS.
02:06:23PM AND REVIEW PROCESS IS NOT SOMETHING WHERE THIS SITUATION IS
02:06:26PM OCCURRING.
02:06:27PM BUT TO BE ABLE -- TO BE ABLE FOR PEOPLE TO COME FORWARD AND
02:06:32PM SPEAK ABOUT THIS SITUATION.
02:06:33PM AND DO THINGS IN A COMPASSIONATE WAY.
02:06:39PM NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING A STICKLER.
02:06:41PM WE CAN'T -- HONESTLY WEST TAMPA IS UNIQUE WEST OF THE CITY,
02:06:46PM HAS ITS OWN STYLE AS YOU KNOW JUST LIKE YBOR DOES, SOHO AND
02:06:51PM EVERYBODY ELSE, WE ARE ONE OF THOSE PLACES AND FILLED WITH
02:06:53PM THE CAL HOMES IN WEST TAMPA THAT WE WANTED TO KEEP INTACT
02:06:58PM AND WE WANTED TO DO THE GUIDELINES THAT WE DID.
02:07:00PM WE DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE STIFLED WITH
02:07:04PM SUCH SITUATION WHERE THERE IS IN FIGHTING AMONGST THE
02:07:07PM NEIGHBORS.
02:07:07PM THERE ARE SOMETIMES WHEN THINGS DO COME ABOUT WE TRY TO
02:07:11PM RESOLVE THOSE THINGS IN A NEIGHBORLY FASHION WITH THE
02:07:15PM REREVIEW PROCESS AND WHAT THEY ARE WE WANT FLEXIBILITY AND
02:07:22PM LIVE IN PEACE.
02:07:23PM THIS SITUATION IS ONE OF THOSE WHERE MANY OF THE ORIGINAL --
02:07:26PM AS WELL AS DAPHNE JONES AND REPRESENTATIVE AS A
02:07:31PM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES THAT WE
02:07:34PM NEED TO BE MORE COMPASSIONATE.
02:07:37PM SHE HAS BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:07:39PM SHE HAS A LIFE THERE.
02:07:42PM AND SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE IN CONSIDERATION.
02:07:43PM THANK YOU.
02:07:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:07:46PM ANYONE ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
02:07:57PM >> WE GOT TO SWEAR YOU IN.
02:07:59PM [SWEARING IN]
02:08:07PM >> I AM CLINT PARIS, CITY OF TAMPA RESIDENT AND I'M HERE TO
02:08:10PM SPEAK OF THE ISSUE THAT YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT.
02:08:13PM I WAS VISITING A HIGH SCHOOL CLASSMATE A COUPLE OF MONTHS
02:08:18PM BACK AND HIS MOTHER EXPLAINED TO ME THE DESPAIR REGARDING
02:08:23PM WHAT SEEMED TO BE SOMETHING VERY MINOR AND IN PLACE THERE
02:08:26PM FOR DECADES FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
02:08:28PM SHE HAD HIRED A CONTRACTOR TO ASSIST HER IN REMODELING THE
02:08:34PM FRONTAGE OF HER HOUSE AND CAME TO LIGHT THAT MAY BE SOME
02:08:38PM TYPE OF VIOLATION.
02:08:38PM AS YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY AWARE BY NOW, WE ARE TALK ABOUT A
02:08:43PM LONG, LONG-TERM TAMPA RESIDENT.
02:08:46PM SOMEBODY RETIRED ON THE FIXED INCOME AND LOOKING TO ENJOY
02:08:50PM THE SUNSET OF HER LIFE, REFLECTING ON THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS
02:08:54PM AND SERVICES SHE PROCEED TO SO MANY PEOPLE AND NOW SHE IS
02:08:58PM MIRED IN THIS CONTROVERSY REGARDING SOMETHING THAT WOULD
02:09:01PM REQUIRE TO ME JUST A MINOR CONSIDERATION ON YOUR PART.
02:09:05PM I JUST WANT TO COME DOWN WHEN YOU HEARD OF HER HEARING TODAY
02:09:09PM AND SPEAK ON HER BEHALF AND SAY THIS IS THE EPITOME WHY WE
02:09:14PM WANT GOOD PEOPLE TO REPRESENT US ON CITY COUNCIL.
02:09:20PM CITIZENS ARE BOXED IN AND NOT PROVIDED THE JUSTICE THAT THEY
02:09:24PM DESERVE THEY CAN COME TO YOU AND GET THE RELIEF THEY NEED.
02:09:29PM I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT THE REQUEST HE HAS MADE AND
02:09:34PM LET HER ENJOY THE BENEFITS OF HER HOME AND NOT GO THROUGH
02:09:37PM MAJOR RENOVATIONS THAT WILL BE COSTLY AND BURDENSOME FOR
02:09:42PM HER.
02:09:42PM I WANT TO APOLOGIZE BUT I RUSHED IN.
02:09:46PM BECAUSE I HEARD WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
02:09:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK?
02:09:54PM YOU CAN BRING THEM UP TO THE ATTORNEY.
02:09:55PM SURE.
02:09:56PM I SEE NO ONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
02:09:58PM ANY ADDITIONAL STAFF -- COMMENT.
02:10:01PM PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, ARMANDO CASTELLON AND -- YES, MA'AM,
02:10:08PM SWEAR YOU IN.
02:10:09PM [SWEARING IN]
02:10:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO IS THE FIRST ON THE LIST.
02:10:19PM TRACY, PLEASE UNMUTE YOURSELF AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO
02:10:23PM SPEAK.
02:10:23PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:10:24PM NOPE, YOU ARE STILL MUTED.
02:10:29PM THERE YOU GO.
02:10:29PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:10:31PM >>Caller: GOOD AFTERNOON.
02:10:33PM I AM DR. TRACY THOMPSON.
02:10:35PM I AM A BOARD CERTIFIED INTERNAL MEDICINE PHYSICIAN AND THE
02:10:40PM PRIMARY CARE PROVIDER FOR MISS CHERYL FENNELL.
02:10:44PM I PRACTICE HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
02:10:47PM SHE IS UNDER MY CARE AND I'M HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT HER IN
02:10:51PM HER NEED FOR A CARPORT GIVEN HER CURRENT MEDICAL CONDITION.
02:10:55PM SHE IS ACTIVELY GETTING TREATED MYSELF FOR HER HEART AND
02:11:01PM LUNG DISEASE AND RECENTLY HAD A SURGICAL PROCEDURE ON HER
02:11:04PM HEART PERFORMED BY HER CARDIOLOGISTS.
02:11:06PM IT ASSISTS HER AS SHE ENTERS AND EXITS HER HOME AND WALKS
02:11:15PM SAFELY FROM THE CAR TO THE DOOR NOT RUSHING THAT COULD
02:11:19PM EXACERBATE HER HEART AND LUNG AND RISK HER OF FALLING.
02:11:23PM IT PROTECTS HER FROM BEING EXPOSED FROM THE ELEMENTS AND HAS
02:11:28PM TO CARRY HER PORTABLE OXYGEN PREVENTS THE OXYGEN MACHINE
02:11:33PM FROM GETTING WET.
02:11:35PM AS HER PRIMARY CARE PROVIDER THE CONTINUED APPEARANCE OF THE
02:11:41PM CARPORT TO NOT HAVE AN INCIDENT THAT COULD HAND HER IN THE
02:11:45PM HOSPITAL.
02:11:45PM I ASK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT HER PETITION TO KEEP THE
02:11:48PM CARPORT.
02:11:49PM THANK YOU.
02:11:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ARMANDO, YOU ARE NEXT.
02:11:54PM >> ARMANDO CASTELLON, 1913 WEST GRAY AND I LIVE DIRECTLY
02:12:02PM ACROSS THE STREET FROM MISS CHERYL.
02:12:04PM I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE DESIGN EXCEPTION AS WELL.
02:12:06PM AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN, A LOT OF THE LEGAL TERMS AND
02:12:11PM STUFF LIKE THAT, I DON'T HAVE THAT PROFESSIONALISM TO KNOW
02:12:18PM AND PROVIDE.
02:12:18PM I CAN TELL YOU IN 2018, MISS CHERYL HAS BEEN A PHENOMENAL
02:12:23PM NEIGHBOR.
02:12:24PM VERY NICE.
02:12:25PM DURING THE PROCESS OF THE ROAD CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS DONE
02:12:28PM FOR THE STORMWATER DRAIN.
02:12:30PM WE HAVE GOTTEN TO KNOW EACH OTHER LITTLE BIT MORE.
02:12:33PM ONE OF THE THINGS I DID IN MY RESEARCH AND MY LETTER I
02:12:37PM PROVIDED IN 2006, ONE OF THE COMPLAINTS WAS THERE WAS AN
02:12:41PM EXPANSION OF THE DRIVEWAY IN 2006 WHICH IS THE LATEST PHOTO
02:12:45PM THAT YOU CAN SEE ON COUNTY PROPERTY OR APPRAISER'S WEB SITE.
02:12:49PM THE DRIVEWAY NEVER CHANGED IN SIZE.
02:12:52PM THE STRUCTURE BETWEEN PHOTOS IN 2010 AND 2012, YOU CAN SEE
02:12:57PM THAT HAS BEEN ERECTED.
02:12:58PM MISS FENNELL HAS THE RECEIPT THAT SHOWS IT WAS DONE IN 2010.
02:13:04PM THE TIMING OF THE PICTURES OBVIOUSLY DON'T DO JUSTICE A LOT
02:13:12PM OF CLAIMS ARE SAYING LOSS OF GRASS.
02:13:15PM AS A NEIGHBOR I HAVE NOT SEEN SOD TO COME TO REPLACE ANY OF
02:13:21PM THE GRASS KILLED.
02:13:22PM ANY TYPE OF SAND AS PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED, UNFORTUNATELY WITH
02:13:29PM GOOGLE WE CAN'T SEE ANYTHING HISTORICALLY BECAUSE THE OWNER
02:13:32PM OF 1914 HAVE COMPLETED META DATA BY REQUESTING PRIVACY ON
02:13:39PM THE SERVICE.
02:13:40PM DUE TO THE LEGAL ASPECTS AND THE NECESSITY OF GIVING
02:13:47PM MISS FENNELL PEACE OF MINE IN SUPPORT OF HER.
02:13:50PM TO ADD, THIS NOT THE ONLY PERSON THAT THE NEIGHBOR AT 1914
02:13:54PM HAS CONTINUED TO HARASS.
02:13:56PM AS A NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ARE BEHIND HER.
02:13:58PM AND WE HOPE WE WILL CONTINUE TO SHOW UP AND SUPPORT HER.
02:14:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC.
02:14:08PM >> DAVID HUNTER, PLANNING AND ZONING COORDINATOR.
02:14:11PM ONE THING I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE, AGAIN, IN THE WEST TAMPA
02:14:17PM OVERLAY IS DETERMINED BY THE BLOCK AVERAGE.
02:14:19PM SHOULD THIS GET APPROVED, THAT WILL AFFECT ANY FUTURE
02:14:23PM DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THIS WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
02:14:26PM SO IT DOES HAVE RAMIFICATIONS ON THE REST OF THE BLOCK AS
02:14:29PM WELL.
02:14:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:14:32PM WERE YOU GOING TO TURN YOUR MIC ON, NO?
02:14:38PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:14:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, CONTRARY TESTIMONY
02:14:43PM TO THE WEST OVERLAY DISTRICT AND TIMING AND WHAT RULES WERE
02:14:47PM APPLIED DURING THE TIME OF THAT CONSTRUCTION.
02:14:50PM CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT.
02:14:51PM >> THE WEST TAMPA OVERLAY APPROVED AS PART OF ORDINANCE.
02:14:58PM SO IT HAS BEEN IN PLAY FOR YEARS.
02:15:00PM HAD THEY COME IN FOR A PERMIT IN 2010 UP TO TODAY.
02:15:11PM THEY WOULD BE UNDER THE SAME SCRUTINY AND WOULD HAVE BEEN
02:15:15PM PERMITTED BASED ON THE ZONING CODE, THE OVERLAY CODE AND
02:15:18PM FURTHERMORE THE BUILDING CODE.
02:15:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN THE POWER YOU HAVE AS STAFF, COULD YOU
02:15:26PM HAVE BEEN -- COULD YOU HAVE GRANTED THIS DESIGN EXCEPTION
02:15:29PM WITHIN YOU ARE IN POWER?
02:15:32PM >> COULD I HAVE?
02:15:33PM TECHNICALLY, I CAN APPROVE ANYTHING AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE
02:15:37PM JUSTIFICATION CRITERIA.
02:15:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS WHAT I AM SPEAKING TO.
02:15:44PM WHAT IS THE JUSTIFICATION CRITERIA THAT PREVENTED YOU.
02:15:49PM >> INADEQUATE JUSTIFICATION.
02:15:52PM JUSTIFICATION THAT THE DRIVEWAY GETS WET IS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
02:15:56PM NOT A PERMITTED JUSTIFICATION.
02:15:58PM THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT HAD WE APPROVED THIS WE HAVE
02:16:06PM MORE PEOPLE HERE SAYING HOW DID WE EVER APPROVE THIS.
02:16:09PM THESE ARE DETERMINATIONS AND THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE TO ASK
02:16:16PM OURSELVES WHEN REVIEWING THE DESIGN EXCEPTION.
02:16:19PM TOO MUCH OF AN EGREGIOUS VIOLATION OF THOSE SETBACKS.
02:16:23PM IT DOESN'T MEET THE LETTER OF THE OVERALL DISTRICT.
02:16:26PM IT DOESN'T MEET THE INTENT OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
02:16:29PM AND AGAIN --
02:16:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY RECOURSE WITH
02:16:36PM CONTRACTORS IF THEY HAD ANY EVIDENCE AND DID WORK WITHOUT
02:16:41PM PULLING A PERMIT?
02:16:43PM >> WHAT WE ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO DO.
02:16:45PM THIS IS A CIVIL MATTER AT THIS PINT AND CONTACT THE DPBR,
02:16:50PM THE DEPARTMENT OF BUSINESS REGULATION BY THE STATE AND
02:16:53PM REPORTING THAT CONTRACTOR.
02:16:54PM BUT MY LEVEL, NOTHING I CAN DO OTHER THAN ENCOURAGE THEM TO
02:16:58PM SEEK RECOURSE ELSEWHERE.
02:17:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BEFORE I GO.
02:17:03PM I WALKED IN, THREE LADIES SITTING ON A BENCH DOWNSTAIRS AND
02:17:08PM I STOPPED TO GREET ALL THREE OF THEM.
02:17:09PM ONE WHISPERED HAVE YOU STARTED.
02:17:13PM LET ME SAY WHAT THAT MEANS.
02:17:14PM IT MEANS HAVE YOU STARTED MEMOIRS THAT RUTH McNAIR AND THE
02:17:19PM ONE TO WRITE FOR FIVE YEARS.
02:17:21PM SO I AM NOT HERE TO SAY THAT IS PART OF THIS, BUT I WANT TO
02:17:24PM MAKE CLEAR THE AIR THAT IS WHAT THE CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT.
02:17:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
02:17:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE WORD "GRANDFATHER" WAS THROWN OUT RIGHT
02:17:35PM NOW.
02:17:35PM IF WE APPROVE THIS, IS IT A ONE-TIME EXCEPTION FOR A -- OR
02:17:41PM ENTITLEMENT.
02:17:42PM IF SOMEBODY BUILDS A NEW HOUSE, THEY BUILD THE EXACT SAME
02:17:47PM HOUSE AND DIMENSIONS.
02:17:49PM >> IT WILL ONLY BE THIS PROPERTY.
02:17:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: BUT IF SOMEBODY TAKES DOWN THIS CARPORT, CAN
02:17:56PM THEY BUILD ANOTHER ONE THAT IS TO THE SAME DIMENSIONS?
02:17:59PM OR DO THEY HAVE TO BUILD TO THE CODE.
02:18:02PM >> MY UNDERSTANDING IT WILL BE IN PERPETUITY, BUT I REFER TO
02:18:07PM COUNCIL FOR VERIFICATION OF THAT.
02:18:09PM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE
02:18:13PM LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
02:18:14PM IF CITY COUNCIL OVERTURNS THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S DENIAL
02:18:18PM OF THIS APPLICATION, YOU ARE APPROVING THE SETBACK
02:18:21PM REDUCTIONS THAT WERE REQUESTED BY THE PETITIONER THAT RUNS
02:18:25PM WITH THE LAND.
02:18:26PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE OR
02:18:33PM ANYTHING ELSE, BUT YOU LEARN THINGS AS YOU GET OLDER.
02:18:37PM IF THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT, TEN HUNDRED THOUSANDS OF
02:18:44PM DRIVEWAYS IN WEST TAMPA THAT ALL OF THEM ARE ILLEGAL BECAUSE
02:18:49PM THE '50s AND '60s.
02:18:51PM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THEM?
02:18:54PM THAT'S ALL.
02:18:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE STILL OPEN.
02:18:56PM WE HAVEN'T CLOSED.
02:18:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
02:18:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: ANYTHING ELSE?
02:19:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE REBUTTAL BY THE APPLICANT.
02:19:05PM MA'AM, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WISH TO ADD?
02:19:11PM FERNNELL?
02:19:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:19:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:19:22PM SECOND.
02:19:23PM MOTION TO CLOSE HAS PASSED.
02:19:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY AND IF
02:19:29PM MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE WANTS TO COMMENT, BUT PROVIDED
02:19:32PM YOU AS SHE SAID EARLIER TWO POTENTIAL MOTIONS.
02:19:35PM 27-60-E-5.
02:19:39PM THAT IS WHAT I PROVIDED TO YOU.
02:19:41PM YOU ARE STANDING IN THE STEAD OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
02:19:44PM IT IS BEING DE NOVO.
02:19:48PM WHATEVER DECISION REFERENCES THE CRITERIA IN 27-60 -E-5.
02:19:56PM YOU CRAFT YOUR MOTION BASED ON THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU HEARD
02:19:59PM IT THAT IS IN THE SECTIONS THERE WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO
02:20:05PM CHOOSE.
02:20:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I TALK ABOUT THIS.
02:20:07PM MY HEART GOES ONE WAY AND MY BRAIN GOES THE OTHER.
02:20:11PM I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING THAT YOU -- THAT YOU PEOPLE
02:20:15PM DESCRIBED AND I HEARD PEOPLE COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE
02:20:22PM COMMUNITY AND ALL OF THE THINGS AND UNFORTUNATE
02:20:24PM CIRCUMSTANCES THAT GOT US HERE TODAY.
02:20:26PM LIKE YOUR NEIGHBOR OR NOT, THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY ALSO HAVE
02:20:31PM RIGHTS.
02:20:31PM AND I LOOK AT SECTION 5, AND WHAT I SEE IS NUMBER ONE ON
02:20:34PM THAT IS THAT THE EXCEPTION NEITHER INTERFERES WITH THE
02:20:38PM RIGHTS OF OTHERS AS PRO IN THIS CHAPTER AND INJURIOUS TO THE
02:20:43PM PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.
02:20:47PM AND THE INTENT OF THE CHAPTER IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
02:20:51PM I JUST WANT -- THIS IS THIS IS INTERESTING.
02:20:58PM ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN PUBLIC COMMENT WHO SUPPORTED THIS IS
02:21:01PM SOMEBODY WHO HAS BEEN ARGUING OF DESIGN EXCEPTIONS.
02:21:03PM I AM A BIG FAN OF DESIGN EXCEPTIONS EITHER.
02:21:07PM I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THE CONCEPT OF IT.
02:21:11PM WE HAVE CERTAIN SET OF RULES THAT PEOPLE APPLY AND WHETHER
02:21:14PM SOMEBODY IS A NEW PROPERTY OWNER OR AN OLD PROPERTY OWNER,
02:21:18PM THEY STILL HAVE -- THEY KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.
02:21:21PM UNFORTUNATE THIS CONTRACTOR CAME IN AND DID BAD WORK.
02:21:25PM I APPRECIATE CITY STAFF POINT TOGETHER DIRECTION WHERE THE
02:21:30PM APPLICANT CAN GO FOR RECOURSE.
02:21:31PM OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT THAT APPLICANT HAS FOR RECOURSE.
02:21:35PM BUT, AGAIN, WHEN WE ARE MAKING THESE DECISIONS IN ACCORDANCE
02:21:41PM TO THE SECTION BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE HAVE TO USE
02:21:44PM AS GUIDELINES, THERE IS NOT A LOT OF LATITUDE FOR US WHICH
02:21:48PM OBVIOUSLY IS THE SAME LACK OF LATITUDE THAT THE CITY STAFF
02:21:51PM HAD WHEN THEY MADE THIS DECISION BECAUSE YOU LOOK -- YOU
02:21:54PM LOOK AT THE RULE.
02:21:55PM THE RULE IS WHAT THE RULE IS.
02:21:57PM AND IF THE SITUATION IS REVERSED, I THINK THE FOLKS WILL
02:22:00PM ACTUALLY WANT US TO HOLD TO THAT SAME LEVEL OF STANDARD.
02:22:04PM IF THE APPLICANT WAS -- AND SOMEBODY ELSE HAD DONE SOMETHING
02:22:07PM THAT WOULD BE INJURIOUS TO THEIR PROPERTY.
02:22:09PM WANT TO HOLD THEM TO THE SAME STANDARD.
02:22:12PM I AM PROBABLY NOT GOING -- NOT PROBABLY, I AM GOING TO VOTE
02:22:16PM TO UPHOLD THE DECISION OF CITY STAFF ON THIS DECISION.
02:22:20PM THANK YOU.
02:22:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:22:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF WHY WE ARE TRYING
02:22:33PM TO GET MAGISTRATES OUT OF IT.
02:22:36PM BECAUSE THERE IS MORE THAN JUST BLACK AND WHITE.
02:22:41PM ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES IN TERMS OF, LIKE, LANGUAGE HERE.
02:22:44PM IT'S -- THERE IS GRAY.
02:22:47PM THERE IS NUANCED.
02:22:48PM AND TO ME THE FACT THAT THIS IS A CARPORT THAT HAS BEEN
02:22:54PM THERE FOR 14 YEARS BEFORE THE NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE WAS
02:22:57PM BUILT IS AN ISSUE.
02:22:58PM THAT NEIGHBOR HAD THAT CARPORT FOR SO LONG THAT IT IS
02:23:03PM BASICALLY PART OF THE LANDSCAPE.
02:23:05PM PART OF THE HOUSE.
02:23:06PM AND THAT IS YOUR HEARING FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
02:23:09PM BECAUSE THEY ARE USED TO IT.
02:23:10PM THEY ARE USED TO THIS SPACE.
02:23:12PM AND A NEW CONSTRUCTION CAME IN AND THE PERSON WHO PURCHASED
02:23:19PM THAT NEW HOUSE HAD THE CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE LAY OF THE LAND
02:23:22PM AND KNEW IT WAS THERE.
02:23:25PM SO I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOU.
02:23:27PM I BELIEVE THAT IN THIS CASE, GRANDFATHERING IN SOMETHING
02:23:31PM THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR 14 YEARS AND -- IS NOT A PROBLEM.
02:23:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UNDER WHAT AUTHORITY WOULD WE HAVE --
02:23:39PM SORRY -- UNDER WHAT AUTHORITY WOULD WE HAVE THAT?
02:23:42PM AGAIN ARE I AGREE.
02:23:45PM MY HEART IS THERE.
02:23:47PM WHAT SHORT.
02:23:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SAID 5C.
02:23:50PM IT SEES THE GENERAL INTENT OF THIS CHAPTER.
02:23:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FAIR ENOUGH.
02:23:57PM MR. SHELBY.
02:23:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO MINUTIA AND PART
02:24:04PM OF YOUR DECISION WHEN YOU FACE THESE.
02:24:05PM YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE AND MAKE FINDINGS OF FACT.
02:24:09PM IF THE FINDING OF FACTS IS APPLICABLE TO SOMETHING AND
02:24:14PM MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL AGREES AND YOU MAKE THE FINDING OF
02:24:18PM FACT, YOU CAN BASE YOUR DECISION WEATHER TO UPHOLD OR RETURN
02:24:23PM AND BASE AND YOUR FIND, OF FACT WHATEVER YOU FIND THEM TO BE
02:24:27PM BASED ON THE EVIDENCE AT THE HEARING.
02:24:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:24:32PM IT IS NOT AS DIFFICULT FOR ME BECAUSE I SERVE ON THE
02:24:36PM VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
02:24:40PM WHAT WE DID WAS PRESERVE PEOPLE'S SETBACKS.
02:24:44PM AND THEIR HOUSING -- ESPECIALLY OLD HOUSES.
02:24:47PM AND WE GOT CAR PORTS NOT -- IT WAS NOT UNCOMMON TO GET CAR
02:24:53PM PORTS THAT NEEDED TO BE -- THAT -- I FORGOT THE NAPE OF IT.
02:24:59PM NOT VETTED IN -- VESTED.
02:25:04PM I KNEW IT STARTED WITH A V.
02:25:06PM TO BE VESTED.
02:25:07PM AND THAT IS SOMETHING ON THE VARIANCE REVIEW BOARD WE DID
02:25:11PM WITH REGULARITY BECAUSE OF THE AGE OF SOMETHING AND HOW IT
02:25:14PM -- HOW IT FIT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
02:25:16PM SO I AM FOLLOWING LISTEN TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY.
02:25:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I AM WILLING TO SUPPORT SUPPORTING THE
02:25:23PM DENIAL AND APPROVING IT.
02:25:24PM WHOEVER MAKES THAT MOTION HAS MY VOTE.
02:25:26PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:25:27PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:25:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:25:31PM I WILL VOTE TO OVERTURN AS WELL.
02:25:32PM I DID WANT TO -- COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN'S WORDS OBVIOUSLY I
02:25:38PM THINK -- SOMETHING WE CAN HAVE THERE.
02:25:40PM AND I WANT TO -- I WANT TO JUST SPEAK TO WHAT COUNCILMAN
02:25:45PM CLENDENIN SAID BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY HE IS STANDING ON PRINCIPLE
02:25:49PM JUST LIKE EVERYBODY DOES ON THIS.
02:25:51PM IF I AM READING THE ROOM UP, MAY BE UNPOPULAR POSITION AND I
02:25:56PM DO SALUTE AND THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO SAY AND
02:25:59PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN HAVE A WONDERFUL HEART INCLUDING
02:26:03PM PRINCIPLES.
02:26:04PM I WILL BE VOTING TO OVERTURN.
02:26:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:26:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVERY DAYS IS DIFFERENT.
02:26:10PM AND EVERY CASE IS DIFFERENT AND THINGS ARE NOT ALWAYS ONE
02:26:12PM COLOR.
02:26:13PM THEY ARE GRAY IN THIS MATTER, IT IS BECAUSE THERE ARE
02:26:17PM SURVEYS.
02:26:18PM I AM SURE WHEN THE PARTY BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE, BOTH THE LADY
02:26:22PM WHO BUILT THE CARPORT THAT IS NOW ILLEGAL BUT NEVER WASN'T
02:26:28PM ILLEGAL BECAUSE NOT CAUGHT IN THE BEGINNING.
02:26:30PM THERE WAS A SURVEY DONE OF THE PROPERTY OF THE SIZE OF THE
02:26:33PM PROPERTY.
02:26:33PM WHEN THE LADY NEXT DOOR BOUGHT THE HOUSE, WELL, THE LOT TO
02:26:37PM BUILD, THERE WAS A SURVEY THERE.
02:26:39PM WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SURVEYS?
02:26:41PM CAN ANYBODY TELL US?
02:26:43PM WAS THERE A VIOLATION THAT THAT SHED -- THE CARPORT WAS OVER
02:26:49PM THE PROPERTY LINE?
02:26:50PM I DON'T KNOW.
02:26:50PM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS I DON'T KNOW.
02:26:53PM I KNOW ONE THING, I CAN'T GET ARRESTED FOR SOMETHING THAT
02:26:58PM WAS NOT ILLEGAL IF I HAD DONE SOMETHING 14 YEARS LATER.
02:27:06PM I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.
02:27:07PM THAT'S ALL.
02:27:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:27:14PM ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?
02:27:16PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON AND THEN CLENDENIN.
02:27:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YEAH, YOU KNOW THE -- THE ONE THING THAT
02:27:21PM NO ONE HAS SAID OUT LOUD HERE TODAY THAT GENTRIFICATION HAS
02:27:26PM SOME SIGNIFICANT CONS WHEN, YOU KNOW, NEW HOMES ARE COMING
02:27:31PM INTO COMMUNITIES.
02:27:32PM AND IT IS JUST SO UNFORTUNATE, BECAUSE ONE OF THEM IS THE
02:27:38PM DISRUPTION OF SOCIAL NORMS AND CULTURAL EROSION.
02:27:47PM YOU COULD SEE WHAT EXISTED BEFORE YOU BUILD YOUR HOME.
02:27:50PM YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE WHAT ALREADY EXISTS.
02:27:52PM AND IT DOES HAPPEN.
02:27:53PM YOU KNOW, NEW FOLKS COME IN.
02:27:55PM AND THEY WANT TO CHANGE THINGS.
02:27:59PM AND SO -- AND THEN WE HAVE RULES.
02:28:07PM FOR ME I KNOW WE HAVE -- BECAUSE OF OUR CITY ATTORNEY, WE
02:28:11PM HAVE TO STICK WITHIN GUIDELINES, BUT I ACTUALLY DO SUPPORT
02:28:14PM THE OVERTURNING OF THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
02:28:21PM AND I WILL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
02:28:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:28:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY MY HEART IS THERE AND
02:28:29PM I WANT TO BE THERE ON THAT DECISION, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION
02:28:32PM FOR OUR ATTORNEY OR THE CITY ATTORNEYS ON THIS.
02:28:34PM IS THAT UNDER WHAT CONDITION -- ANOTHER PROPERTY OWNER.
02:28:44PM WHEN DOES ONE PROPERTY OWNER'S RIGHTS SUPERSEDE ANOTHER
02:28:48PM PROPERTY OWNER'S RIGHTS.
02:28:49PM YOU HAVE ONE HOUSE THAT HAS CERTAIN PROPERTY RIGHTS.
02:28:53PM AND LET'S SAY WATER DAMAGE CAUSED BY THE WATER COMING OVER
02:28:56PM THOSE THAT WAS IN TESTIMONY.
02:28:57PM WHEN IS THAT PROPERTY RIGHTS -- WHEN DO HER PROPERTY RIGHTS
02:29:04PM GET SWEPT AWAY WHEN THE RULES CLEARLY SET WHAT THE SETBACKS
02:29:09PM ARE.
02:29:09PM AND AGAIN, MY HEART SAYS I WANT TO BE ON THE OVERTURNING
02:29:15PM SIDE OF THIS, BUT I AM TRYING TO INTELLECTUALLY GET THERE
02:29:19PM AND I CAN'T GET THERE.
02:29:20PM NOT THAT IT MATTERS BECAUSE CLEARLY THE VOTE IS GOING TO BE
02:29:25PM THERE.
02:29:25PM I AM WORKING ON IT.
02:29:27PM ARE WE AS SITTING BOARD ABLE TO SWEEP AWAY THE RIGHTS OF ONE
02:29:31PM PROPERTY OWNER OVER ANOTHER LIKE THAT?
02:29:34PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOTHING IN THE RULES, AS THEY SAY .
02:29:38PM AND I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID IT CORRECTLY.
02:29:40PM THERE IS THE LETTER AND YOUR INTERPRETATION OF IT.
02:29:43PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MOTION IS GOING TO BE WITH YOU BUT YOU
02:29:50PM HEARD CERTAIN TESTIMONIES THAT CAN APPLY OF THINGS THAT YOU
02:29:53PM MAKE YOUR DECISION.
02:29:54PM THE ANSWER IS THIS.
02:29:56PM YOU ARE NOT ULTIMATELY A COURT OF EQUITY.
02:29:58PM YOU CAN'T JUST DEPENDING ON WHO ASKS WHAT AND WHEN, MAKE A
02:30:04PM DECISION.
02:30:04PM IT HAS TO HAVE A BASIS.
02:30:06PM AND IT HAS TO BE BASED ON COMPETENT SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE IN
02:30:09PM THE RECORD, AND, OF COURSE, DUE PROCESS HAS BEEN TO BE
02:30:15PM AFFORDED AND BASED ON THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS OF LAW.
02:30:18PM IN OTHER WORDS, THE CODE HAS TO BE PROPERLY APPLIED.
02:30:22PM AND THEN YOU -- YOU APPLY IT -- YOU APPLY THE PROPER CODE
02:30:26PM PROPERLY.
02:30:26PM SO WHAT I AM SUGGESTING TO YOU IS THAT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS
02:30:31PM YOU CAN HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
02:30:32PM YOU CAN HEAR WHAT THE FIND, WOULD BE AND WHAT THE RATIONALE
02:30:36PM WILL BE AND IF YOU BELIEVE THE COMPETENT, SUBSTANTIAL
02:30:41PM EVIDENCE SUPPORTS IT, YOU VOTE YES, AND IF YOU DON'T, VOTE
02:30:45PM NO.
02:30:45PM ON THE OTHER SIDE IF OFF MOTION THAT YOU WANT TO PUT FORTH
02:30:49PM TO DO OPPOSITE, THEN YOU STILL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE SAME
02:30:53PM PROCESS.
02:30:54PM ULTIMATELY WHAT COMES -- ULTIMATELY YOU AS BOARD ARE THE
02:30:59PM ULTIMATE FINDERS OF FACT.
02:31:01PM THE COURT CAN'T OVERTURN WHAT FINDINGS YOU MAKE FACTUALLY
02:31:05PM AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE APPLY PROPER CODE AND SAY YOU ARE
02:31:10PM DOING THIS BECAUSE OF ANOTHER REASON THAT IS NOT TOTALLY AT
02:31:12PM ALL WITHIN THE CODE.
02:31:13PM SO WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU.
02:31:16PM THESE ARE THE RULES OF THE TEAM.
02:31:17PM AND DEPENDING ON WHAT COUNCIL'S DETERMINATIONS ARE OF WHAT
02:31:21PM THE EVIDENCE SHOWS, YOU TAKE IT AND YOU GO FROM THERE AND
02:31:24PM SEE IF YOU CAN MEET WHAT THE CHARTER REQUIRES WHICH IS THE
02:31:29PM MAJORITY.
02:31:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:31:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AGREE THAT THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT
02:31:39PM STORMWATER RUNOFF, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR.
02:31:42PM BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THE OWNER OF BOTH -- THE OWNER OF THE
02:31:45PM PROPERTY HAS TO HANDLE HER STORMWATER ON HER PROPERTY.
02:31:49PM AND THAT IS -- THAT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE.
02:31:51PM BUT OFTENTIMES IN VARIANCE CASES, WE WILL HAVE SEPARATIONS
02:31:59PM OF EAVES AND GUTTER AND NOT A PART OF THE -- OR -- OF EAVES
02:32:06PM AND GUTTERS ARE NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THE SETBACK.
02:32:09PM SO -- SO REALLY, WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT THAT.
02:32:12PM WE ARE NOT LOOKING -- SO SHE CAN ADD A GUTTER SYSTEM.
02:32:17PM AND -- AND WE CAN'T MAKE THEM DO ANYTHING.
02:32:20PM BUT, AGAIN, THAT WOULD -- THAT -- THAT IS WHAT I WAS GOING
02:32:25PM TO SAY.
02:32:26PM THAT IS NOT PART OF THE CASE.
02:32:27PM THAT IS NOT OUR ISSUE.
02:32:29PM THAT IS A STORMWATER ISSUE TO BE DEALT WITH LATER.
02:32:31PM WE ARE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT STORMWATER.
02:32:34PM WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE CARPORT.
02:32:36PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF I CAN.
02:32:39PM I AM GOING TO DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION -- YOU RAISE AN
02:32:42PM INTERESTING QUESTION.
02:32:43PM AN INTERESTING ISSUE THAT MAY BE WE WILL LAND.
02:32:47PM I DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO NUMBER SIX, THE RIGHT THAT THE
02:32:52PM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR HAS AND MISS CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE,
02:32:56PM CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE IT IS THE RIGHT THAT
02:32:58PM YOU HAVE UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU HEAR TO IMPOSE A
02:33:01PM CONDITION LIKE THAT.
02:33:02PM THAT MIGHT BE FROM AN EQUITABLE STANDPOINT MAY PROPOSE A
02:33:06PM SOLUTION.
02:33:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OF WHAT?
02:33:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU FIND TO BE THE CASE.
02:33:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DO FIND THAT TO BE THE CASE.
02:33:15PM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, YOU ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP THE
02:33:19PM STORMWATER ON YOUR PROPERTY AND I DON'T THINK THAT ASKING
02:33:21PM THAT AND HAVING THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY -- I DON'T KNOW
02:33:30PM THAT WE NEED TO DO A REASONABLE CONDITION.
02:33:33PM I DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HEAR FOR AND THIS THE
02:33:37PM APPLICANT IS GOING TO HAVE TO DO.
02:33:40PM >> A MECHANISM TO BE DONE.
02:33:44PM AND IF IT IS APPROPRIATE YOU CAN ASK COUNCIL'S MEASURE TO
02:33:49PM ASK WHETHER THE APPLICANT WOULD AGREE TO THAT CONDITION.
02:33:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:33:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: I ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT WHETHER
02:33:59PM THIS EXCEPTION GOES FORWARD AS AN ENTITLEMENT.
02:34:04PM BUT MY QUESTION, MARTY, IS IF WE DO THIS NUMBER 6 AND PUT A
02:34:09PM CONDITION TO SAY IT DOESN'T GO WITH THEIR LAND.
02:34:11PM IF SOMEBODY -- WE CAN NOT DO THAT.
02:34:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
02:34:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE LEGAL EFFECT OF YOUR DECISION IS THAT
02:34:22PM IT RUNS WITH THE LAND.
02:34:23PM YOU CAN'T DECIDE THAT IT DOESN'T.
02:34:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION?
02:34:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE, I
02:34:38PM WILL MAKE A MOTION TO REOPEN THE HEARING.
02:34:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO REOPEN THE HEARING.
02:34:42PM IS THERE A SECOND?
02:34:44PM A SECOND TO REOPEN THE HEARING.
02:34:46PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
02:34:47PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:34:51PM >> MY NAPE IS CHERYL GREAUX FENNELL.
02:34:58PM I HAVE AN EXTENSION.
02:34:59PM MY GUTTER DOES NOT RUN ON HER PROPERTY.
02:35:02PM I HAVE AN EXCEPTION.
02:35:03PM IT STAYS ON MY SIDE.
02:35:06PM SO.
02:35:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
02:35:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO CLOSE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:35:14PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:35:15PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:35:17PM OKAY, WHO WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION.
02:35:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO OVERTURN THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR'S
02:35:22PM DENIAL OF DE 124-121910 WEST GRAY STREET BECAUSE THE
02:35:29PM PETITIONER HAVE COMPETENT AND EVIDENCE.
02:35:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
02:35:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IN SECTION 27-141, SUBSECTIONS E.2-C.2.
02:35:42PM BASED ON THE CRITERIA 27-06 SUBSECTIONS C AND 5.
02:35:49PM SUBSECTIONS B OF SUB 5 THAT THE EXCEPTION PROVIDES A
02:35:55PM REASONABLE ALLOWANCE OF THE USE UNDER SPECIFIED CIRCUMSTANCE
02:35:59PM THIS WAS APPLICATION.
02:35:59PM C, THAT THE EXCEPTION ACHIEVES THE GENERAL INTENT OF THIS
02:36:03PM CHAPTER AND THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
02:36:05PM AND F.
02:36:07PM THAT THE REQUEST DEMONSTRATES THE EXCEPTION IS WARRANTED DUE
02:36:12PM TO THE UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THE PROPERTY SUCH AS THE
02:36:16PM EXISTING BUILDING OR STRUCTURE AND THE FACT THAT THIS
02:36:19PM EXISTING STRUCTURE HAS BEEN THERE FOR 14 YEARS.
02:36:23PM THAT'S IT.
02:36:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND SECOND.
02:36:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND AND
02:36:30PM INCLUDE THE CONDITION THAT STORMWATER -- THAT THE APPLICANT
02:36:33PM ASSURES THAT STORMWATER IS MAINTAINED ON THE PROPERTY.
02:36:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT BECAUSE THE APPLICANT
02:36:38PM ALREADY SAID THAT IS SOMETHING --
02:36:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM JUST -- IF WE LET IT GO WITHOUT
02:36:42PM SAYING THAT.
02:36:43PM THEN THERE IS NO RECOURSE BECAUSE WE APPROVED IT WITHOUT IT.
02:36:45PM THE HEARING IS CLOSED.
02:36:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THAT A SECOND?
02:36:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION TO AMEND.
02:36:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO YOU APPROVE THE AMENDMENT?
02:36:56PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APPROVE THE AMENDMENT.
02:36:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND WITH THE AMENDMENT.
02:37:00PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
02:37:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
02:37:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
02:37:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:37:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:37:09PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
02:37:11PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
02:37:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
02:37:13PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
02:37:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:37:19PM [ APPLAUSE ]
02:37:28PM NEXT UP, WE HAVE ITEM THAT HAVE BEEN PULLED.
02:37:33PM ITEM NUMBER 14 WAS PULLED BY -- WHO PULLED 14?
02:37:38PM GO TO 57 AND 58.
02:37:40PM AND THEN GO BACK TO 14.
02:37:43PM BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO REQUESTED IT IS NOT IN THE ROOM.
02:37:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHE SAID SHE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.
02:37:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE IS?
02:37:52PM 57 AND 58.
02:37:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAD REQUESTED TO PULL THESE ITEMS.
02:37:57PM I UNDERSTAND SPEAKING WITH STAFF, THIS IS -- THIS IS A
02:38:00PM GRANT.
02:38:00PM AND THE STAFF HAD ELECTED TO DIVIDE THIS GRANT AMONGST THESE
02:38:06PM TWO ENTITIES.
02:38:07PM I PULLED THEM BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT BECAUSE I
02:38:10PM KNOW FISCAL '25 IS COMING AND I KNEW IN THE LAST
02:38:14PM PRESENTATION, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE MONETARY EXPENSE
02:38:17PM VERSUS THE RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT LAST TIME AROUND AND I
02:38:25PM WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AGAIN.
02:38:26PM MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
02:38:27PM GRANT MONEY THAT STAFF ALLOCATED.
02:38:30PM IF MONEY WAS TO BE PULLED FROM THE GENERAL FUND, WANTED
02:38:33PM THESE APPLICANTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT AT LEAST MYSELF IN
02:38:36PM REVIEWING THE BUDGET WILL LOOK FOR A HIGHER RATE OF RETURN
02:38:39PM FOR THE AMOUNT OF MONEY -- CITY OF TAMPA TAXPAYER MONEY
02:38:43PM BEING EXPENDED.
02:38:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT?
02:38:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: KIND OF WHAT I WANTED TO DO BECAUSE I KNOW
02:38:51PM THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERN ABOUT WHAT WE ARE ACTUALLY
02:38:54PM GETTING FOR THE COLLAR FIGURE FOR THESE.
02:38:57PM AND MAKING SURE WE ARE GETTING -- WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING AS
02:39:01PM FAR AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
02:39:03PM AND -- AS I LIKE TO SAY, HOW MANY PEOPLE WE GOT SLEEPING IN
02:39:08PM BEDS.
02:39:08PM BECAUSE THAT -- THAT IS A BIG AGENDA ITEM FOR -- FOR THE
02:39:13PM ADMINISTRATION AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS ENSURING WE HAVE
02:39:16PM AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE ARE SPENDING IS
02:39:19PM BEING SPENT IN A WISE WAY TO GET THE MOST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE
02:39:23PM HOUSED -- SPECIFICALLY HOUSED.
02:39:25PM AND I THINK, AGAIN, AS WE LOOK AT THAT, THERE NEEDS TO BE A
02:39:30PM MORE CONCERTED EFFORT BY THESE NONPROFITS AND OTHER
02:39:34PM NONPROFITS IN REACHING THE END RESULT.
02:39:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
02:39:38PM HURTAK AND THEN HENDERSON.
02:39:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMEBODY WROTE SOMETHING RECENTLY, A FRIEND
02:39:46PM OF MINE RIGHTS A LOT ABOUT HOUSING AND ECONOMICS AND HIS
02:39:50PM COMMENT IS "ECONOMICS IS HOUSING."
02:39:54PM IT REALLY IS.
02:39:54PM YOU CAN'T HAVE A GROWING ECONOMY WITHOUT HOUSING.
02:39:57PM BUT WE CAN'T JUST PUT PEOPLE IN HOUSES.
02:40:01PM WHAT THESE ORGANIZATION DO -- AND IT IS REALLY HARD TO
02:40:06PM ATTACH DOLLAR FIGURES TO IT.
02:40:08PM THEY HELP PEOPLE GET THE HOUSING AND THEN MAINTAIN IT.
02:40:12PM FOR PEOPLE WHO NEVER OWNED A HOME, WHO DON'T KNOW PEOPLE WHO
02:40:16PM OWN HOMES.
02:40:16PM THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO.
02:40:18PM THEY DON'T KNOW.
02:40:19PM THEY NEED THIS -- THIS ASSISTANCE TO LEARN HOW TO SAVE.
02:40:24PM THEY NEED THIS ASSISTANCE TO LEARN HOW TO IMPROVE THEIR
02:40:27PM CREDIT SCORE.
02:40:29PM THEY NEED THIS ASSISTANCE TO FIGURE OUT, ONCE I OWN A HOME,
02:40:32PM WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO.
02:40:33PM THE FACT OFF THIS TO MAINTAIN RESERVES IN SAVINGS TO FIX
02:40:38PM THINGS.
02:40:38PM THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE BORN KNOWING.
02:40:42PM AND --
02:40:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
02:40:45PM I THINK THE END RESULT -- WHEN YOU HAVE THESE -- THESE
02:40:50PM MATRIXES THAT YOU HAVE -- THE ULTIMATE RESULT AGAIN IS
02:40:55PM GETTING PEOPLE IN BEDS AND WHAT IS THE END RESULT -- FOR ME
02:40:58PM WHEN I SAW THE STATISTICS LAST YEAR.
02:41:00PM I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE DOING.
02:41:01PM I GET THAT, AND THE PRODUCTION AND THE END RESULT WASN'T
02:41:05PM REACHING WHAT CONSIDER ACCEPTABLE AS FAR AS THE DOLLAR
02:41:08PM BIGGS.
02:41:08PM AND I THINK YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE A CONCERTED EFFORT OF
02:41:12PM ACHIEVING THE ULTIMATE GOAL.
02:41:14PM YOU ARE PUTTING THE WORK INTO GETTING THERE AND DON'T KNOW
02:41:18PM THE END RESULT.
02:41:19PM WE HAVE THE NUMBERS THAT WE EXPECT FOR THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS
02:41:22PM THAT WE ARE INVESTING.
02:41:23PM >> BECAUSE IT TAKES YEARS TO GET THROUGH THOSE.
02:41:26PM SOME PEOPLE WILL TAKE YEARS TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY
02:41:29PM ARE ABLE TO BUY A HOME.
02:41:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LOOK AT THAT TIME IN '25 AND SEE WHERE
02:41:33PM THEY ARE AT.
02:41:33PM AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO BRING THOSE STATISTICS.
02:41:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOPEFULLY AND NEED TO GET SOME AFFORDABLE
02:41:42PM HOUSING.
02:41:42PM NOT ONE OF THOSE YOU GET X MONEY.
02:41:45PM YOU GET Y RESULT.
02:41:47PM YOU SPEND X MONEY, YOU GET -- YOU CAN'T REALLY QUANTIFY IT.
02:41:52PM THIS IS NOT A QUANTIFIABLE.
02:41:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERYTHING IS QUANTIFIABLE.
02:41:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DISAGREE BECAUSE PERSON A WILL NEED TWO
02:42:03PM THINGS TO GET THEM IN THAT HOUSE.
02:42:05PM FERN B WILL NEED FOUR THINGS TO GET IN THE HOUSE.
02:42:09PM PERSON C NEEDS SIX THINGS AND TWO YEARS TO GET THEM IN THE
02:42:13PM HOUSE.
02:42:13PM I WILL SAY PERSONS A, B AND C ALL DESERVE TO GET THE HOUSE.
02:42:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF THEY GET THE HOW LONGS.
02:42:21PM BUT IF ONLY ONE OUT OF TEN ARE GETTING THE HOUSE, IS THAT A
02:42:24PM GOOD RETURN HURTAK HIGH TEMPERATURE THE OTHER ISSUE IS WE
02:42:29PM DON'T HAVE HOUSES.
02:42:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT FIGURE IS NOT AN ACCURATE FIGURE.
02:42:32PM I THREW THAT OUT.
02:42:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ALSO DON'T HAVE -- A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO
02:42:36PM CAN AND QUALIFY FOR HOUSES AND THEY CAN'T FIND A HOUSE.
02:42:40PM SO THERE ARE ALL SNEEZE OTHER ISSUES.
02:42:43PM THAT'S WHY IT IS NOT SAYING X VERSUS TO Y.
02:42:48PM >> SPEND A HALF MILLION TO GET PEOPLE INTO HOUSES?
02:42:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
02:42:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WILL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IN '25.
02:42:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, BECAUSE THE ISSUE IS -- YOU ALL HAVE
02:42:58PM TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO TOUCH EVERY SINGLE WAY OF HOUSING.
02:43:03PM YOU CAN'T PUT MONEY IN ONE BUCKET AND EXPECT IT TO WORK.
02:43:07PM YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IT IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE TO GET PEOPLE
02:43:11PM INTO HOUSING AND EVERY PERSON IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
02:43:14PM AND THAT'S JUST -- YEAH.
02:43:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER HENDERSON.
02:43:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THIS IS -- I THOUGHT SOMEONE WAS BEHIND
02:43:24PM ME.
02:43:25PM THIS HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE HOUSING COUNSELING SERVICES
02:43:28PM THAT WORK.
02:43:28PM THERE ARE CITY OF TAMPA EMPLOYEE WHO UTILIZED THIS SERVICE
02:43:33PM TO GET INTO HOME.
02:43:34PM I WANT TO POINT THAT OUT.
02:43:36PM KAYON CAN SPEAK ON THIS.
02:43:38PM I HAVE NOTES I PUT IN MY PHONE THAT THEY ALREADY MET THEIR
02:43:42PM HOUSING GOALS.
02:43:42PM IF KAYON CAN SPEAK TO THAT AND THE CITY COME BACK, THEY MET
02:43:47PM THE GOALS OF THE CITY GRANT AND THE CITY ASKED THEM TO SPEND
02:43:52PM MORE MONEY FOR CLIENTS TO GET INTO HOMES.
02:43:55PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS IMPORTANT OF THIS PARTICULAR
02:43:57PM ORGANIZATION AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT EVEN SENIOR
02:44:00PM CITIZENS WHO -- LET'S SAY LIVE IN TAMPA HEIGHTS.
02:44:02PM A REAL STORY BASED ON WHAT SALINA'S HOUSE HAS DONE.
02:44:08PM A SENIOR CITIZEN IN THEIR HOUSE 45 YEARS.
02:44:11PM THEY ARE COACHED CONSTANTLY.
02:44:13PM THAT EDUCATION AND TRAINING THAT SALINAS HOUSE, BECAUSE
02:44:18PM SOMEONE IS OFFERING THEM $250,000 FOR THEIR HOME.
02:44:21PM FOR THAT PERSON, THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY BUT SALINAS HOUSE
02:44:27PM SAID IF YOU GIVE UP YOUR PROPERTY, WHERE ARE YOU GOING?
02:44:30PM THAT EDUCATION, THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE IS THERE, AND THE DOWN
02:44:36PM PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
02:44:37PM AND TOUCH PEOPLE EMPLOYED WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA AND EXCEED
02:44:42PM THEIR GOALS HOPEFULLY KAYON WILL SPEAK TO THAT.
02:44:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE THIS AMOUNT OF TIME.
02:44:54PM I WANT THE OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE COME BACK IN 2025 TO HAVE
02:44:57PM THAT REPORT AND SHOW A RETURN ON INVESTMENT.
02:45:00PM I DIDN'T MEAN TO WASTE OUR TIME TODAY BECAUSE HOW THAT MONEY
02:45:03PM CAME TO US IS DIFFERENT.
02:45:04PM BUT BACK FOR FISCAL YEAR '25.
02:45:06PM I WANTED TO USE THIS AND COME BACK WITH GOOD MATRIXES.
02:45:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
02:45:14PM KAYON, I WANT TO YOU SPEAK ON IT PAUSE IT WAS PULLED AND THE
02:45:18PM PUBLIC IS LISTENING.
02:45:19PM HOUSE IS AN ISSUE.
02:45:24PM PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.
02:45:26PM I WANT TO GIVE THAT EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE BEING INTO HOMES
02:45:30PM BECAUSE OF THIS PROGRAM.
02:45:30PM ONE OTHER THING IS THAT THERE IS A PITCHER WHERE THIS
02:45:35PM PARTICULAR HOMEOWNER.
02:45:36PM WENT INTO THE FLOG 2022 AND JUST MOVED INTO HER HOME AND
02:45:40PM TOOK A LONG TIME, THAT EDUCATION, WHAT SHE HAD TO DO TO
02:45:44PM CHANGE IT AND TURN IT AROUND.
02:45:46PM YES, SHE IS MOVING INTO THE HOME IN 2024.
02:45:48PM YOU DON'T SEE RESULTS IN 90 DAYS.
02:45:51PM NOT A THING IN SOME CASES.
02:45:55PM >>KAYON HENDERSON: KAYON HENDERSON.
02:45:59PM CAN YOU GUY HEAR ME?
02:46:01PM KAYON HENDERSON, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND HOUSING
02:46:07PM DEVELOPMENT.
02:46:08PM BECAUSE NO REVENUE AND NOT GETTING ANY FUNDS, IT IS VERY
02:46:11PM DIFFICULT AT TIMES TO REALLY LOOK AT THE SERVICES THAT ARE
02:46:14PM RELATIONAL TO TRY TO MAKE THEM -- GIVE THEM METRICS.
02:46:18PM YOU HAVE GIVEN AN EXAMPLE COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON OF SOMEONE
02:46:21PM WHO TWO YEARS IT TOOK TO PURCHASE THEIR HOME.
02:46:24PM WE HAVE A DEDICATION TOMORROW FOR SOMEONE THAT TOOK 16 YEARS
02:46:28PM TO PURCHASE THEIR HOME.
02:46:29PM WHEN WE PAY LET'S SAY FOR ONE CLIENT 100,000.
02:46:40PM THEY ARE WORK REQUESTING THEM NOW ARE FOR THE NEXT TWO,
02:46:44PM THREE, FOUR YEARS TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE GETTING INTO A HOME.
02:46:47PM IF THERE IS SOMETHING YOU CAN CALCULATE.
02:46:49PM I AM HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK TO SEE IF THAT CAN BE DONE.
02:46:52PM PRIOR THIS, I SEARCHED UP R.O.I.s ON SOCIAL SERVICES AND I
02:46:59PM COULDN'T FIND A CALCULATION THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING
02:47:02PM FOR, COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:47:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OTHER
02:47:07PM SOCIAL SERVICES AND THIS ARE ACTUALLY HOUSING.
02:47:09PM THE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT IS -- HOW MANY FOLKS OVER A
02:47:13PM PERIOD OF X NUMBER OF YEARS IF WE EXTRAPOLATE AS MUCH AS WE
02:47:17PM NEED TO.
02:47:18PM HOW MANY FOLKS DO WE SUCCESSFULLY GET HOUSED.
02:47:23PM AND HOW MUCH MONEY PER PERSON WHEN YOU AVERAGE IT OUT TO GET
02:47:27PM THEM HOUSED.
02:47:27PM THAT IS MY QUESTION.
02:47:28PM I ONLY COME TO THIS BECAUSE I ONLY HAVE ONE YEAR OF
02:47:31PM EXPERIENCE ON COUNCIL DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE AND I RECALL
02:47:34PM IN THE BUDGET CYCLE WITH TAXPAYER MONEY.
02:47:39PM THE MATRIX DID NOT REFLECT POSITIVELY ON THE SUCCESS OF THE
02:47:45PM PROGRAM.
02:47:46PM AND PERHAPS IT WAS JUST BAD DATA AND WASN'T COMPREHENSIVE
02:47:51PM DATA TO SHOW THAT.
02:47:52PM AND PERHAPS, AGAIN, SHOWING A DIFFERENT REPORT WOULD
02:47:59PM COMPLETELY SWAY ME AND CHANGE MY MIND.
02:48:01PM I DIDN'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF COUNCIL'S TIME ON THIS.
02:48:04PM ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT IS STUCK IN MY HEAD AS IT WAS FIRST
02:48:08PM PRESENTED AND I WANTED TO USE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY
02:48:12PM LET'S EVALUATE THIS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IN TERMS OF
02:48:15PM SPENDING TAXPAYER MONEY.
02:48:17PM WHAT IS THE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT?
02:48:20PM WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR THE MONEY AND WE ARE ASKING PEOPLE
02:48:23PM TO PAY FOR THIS AND HOW TO JUSTIFY TO OTHER PEOPLE THIS IS A
02:48:27PM GOOD PROGRAM.
02:48:28PM IF IT IS SUCCESSFULLY PUTTING PEOPLE IN HOUSES, I AM ALL
02:48:33PM THERE.
02:48:34PM IF NOT, AND SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY AND BETTER FROGS GET
02:48:38PM PEOPLE IN HOUSES, WE SHOULD BE PURSUING THAT.
02:48:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE 57 AND 58.
02:48:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:48:50PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
02:48:51PM OPPOSED.
02:48:52PM BACK TO 14.
02:48:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:48:55PM YOU KNOW I DO NOT FOR THIS PROGRAM.
02:48:58PM LAST YEAR COUNCIL DECIDED TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE WE GOT A
02:49:01PM GRANT FROM THE STATE.
02:49:02PM THIS IS THE VERY FIRST YEAR THAT SHOT SPOTTER WILL BE PAID
02:49:05PM FOR BY THE CITY IN ITS ENTIRETY TAMPA NOW THAT WILL PAY FOR
02:49:08PM THREE EXTRA OFFICERS.
02:49:10PM AND COVERS FOUR SQUARE MILES.
02:49:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MANY SQUARE MILES DOES IT COVER?
02:49:23PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOUR.
02:49:23PM THERE WAS A GREAT OP-ED BY CHIEF BERCAW IN THE TAMPA BAY
02:49:28PM TIMES OF HOW TO RECRUIT OFFICERS THAT REFLECT OUR CITY.
02:49:32PM WE CAN DO THAT WITH THIS $280,000 AND HAVE SOMEONE IN THAT
02:49:35PM NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WILL COVER ALL THREE SHIFTS.
02:49:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY FROM TPD THAT REQUEST TALK --
02:49:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS NOT MY QUESTION.
02:49:44PM IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT QUESTION.
02:49:45PM MY QUESTION IS -- YES, THEY ARE GOING TO SAY THEY WANT THIS
02:49:50PM PROGRAM.
02:49:50PM BUT I AM SAYING OUR CHANCE TO SAY WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO WITH
02:49:54PM THIS $280,000 BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY ARE NOT GIVING -- THE
02:50:00PM COMPANY ITSELF REFUSES TO SHARE HOW THEY GET THEIR DATA.
02:50:02PM HOW IT PERFORMS.
02:50:03PM THERE IS -- THE MAYOR OF HOUSTON JUST SAID THEY WON'T USE
02:50:07PM THE PROGRAM ANYMORE.
02:50:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE IRONY ON THE SALINA HOUSE, RETURN OF
02:50:15PM INVESTMENT.
02:50:15PM SHOW ME THE DATA.
02:50:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE IS THE DIFFERENCE.
02:50:18PM MISS HENDERSON CAN SHOW THAT YOU DATA.
02:50:22PM AND THEY CAN'T SHOW YOU DATA BECAUSE IT IS PROPRIETARY.
02:50:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS --
02:50:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS NOT A GRANT ANYMORE.
02:50:32PM IF WE TALK ABOUT HOW TO SPEND OUR MONEY.
02:50:34PM JUST A T.H.A.N. MEETING WITH CHIEF OF STAFF BENNETT NET.
02:50:41PM AND THEY SAID THEY WANT MORE OFFICERS.
02:50:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULDN'T PEOPLE SAY WE ARE OVERPOLICE
02:50:47PM SOMETHING IN.
02:50:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE WE OVERPOLICING BY ADDING ONE MORE
02:50:50PM OFFICER?
02:50:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO DO THIS AND THAT.
02:50:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE HAD THREE PRESENTATIONS AND THE DATA.
02:51:02PM IT IS EASY TO REFUTE THE DATA.
02:51:04PM I DON'T WANT TO SPEND THE NEXT TWO HOURS GOING THROUGH THAT
02:51:07PM RIGHT NOW.
02:51:08PM IT IS PRESENTED IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE IT IS
02:51:10PM SUCCESSFUL WHEN IT IS NOT.
02:51:12PM I WENT ALONG WITH IT LAST YEAR BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING A
02:51:15PM GRANT
02:51:15PM BUT I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS AT ALL.
02:51:17PM AND THE NUMBER ONE TEST IS TO ASK POLICE OFFICERS.
02:51:22PM SURE POLICE OFFICERS WILL COME UP AND REPRESENT THAT IT IS A
02:51:26PM GOOD IDEA.
02:51:27PM IF YOU ASK POLICE OFFICERS ON THE STREET THEY SAY THIS IS A
02:51:30PM WASTE OF A TIME.
02:51:31PM WE SPEND HOURS CHASING FALSE STARTS.
02:51:34PM AND THIS IS NOT SOLVING CRIMES LIKE I DO THE OTHER WAYS.
02:51:39PM WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE OFFICERS.
02:51:40PM I ASKED FOR 200 MORE POLICE OFFICERS.
02:51:42PM WE NEED TO SPORT POLICE OFFICERS WE HAVE OUT THERE AND NOT
02:51:45PM TAKE UP THEIR TIME ON SOMETHING THAT IS NOT EFFECTIVE.
02:51:48PM I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANOTHER TWO-HOUR-LONG CONVERSATION.
02:51:54PM WE HEARD THAT BEFORE AND WE NEED TO VOTE UP AND DOWN ON THIS
02:51:58PM BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW WE ARE GOING TO VOTE ANYWAY.
02:52:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I SAY WE SHOULDN'T MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
02:52:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEY ARE HERE TO TALK THOUGH.
02:52:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUST LIKE HE SAID.
02:52:07PM I DIDN'T ASK FOR THEM TO BE HERE.
02:52:09PM I SIMPLY ASKED FOR THIS VOTE TO BE CALLED.
02:52:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT I HAVE TO BASE MY DECISION ON BOTH
02:52:15PM SIDES.
02:52:16PM YOUR OPINION AND THE OPINION OF THE POLICE OFFICER.
02:52:18PM ANYBODY FROM TPD CAN TELL ME IF SPOTLIGHTER WORKS, IS NOT
02:52:24PM GOOD, ANYBODY HERE?
02:52:25PM SIR?
02:52:26PM >> EDWARD , A LIEUTENANT WITH THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
02:52:30PM I THINK ALL THREE OF US, WE SEE VALUE IN THIS PROGRAM IN
02:52:33PM SHOT SPOTTER.
02:52:34PM THERE HAVE BEEN INSTANCES WHERE WE DON'T ALWAYS GET THE 911
02:52:39PM CALL.
02:52:39PM THE SHOT SPOTTER GETS THE OFFICERS IN THAT DIRECTION TO
02:52:44PM POTENTIALLY FIND VICTIMS, FIND EVIDENCE, FIND CASES OF
02:52:49PM INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED TO BE PUT IN JAIL.
02:52:51PM WE -- I THINK 2024, OUT OF ALL THE ACTIVISTS OF SHOT
02:52:57PM SPOTTER, ONLY 17% OF THOSE DID RECEIVE 911 CALLS.
02:53:01PM SO A LOT OF RESIDENTS DON'T CALL FOR THESE.
02:53:05PM INCIDENTS WHEN WE SHOW UP FOR THE 911 CALLS AND SHOT SPOTTER
02:53:09PM PROTECTIONS AND WE HAVE LOCATED VICTIMS THAT HAVE BEEN SHOT
02:53:12PM AND LOCATED A VICTIM TWO SHOT AWAY WHERE THE CRIME SCENE MAY
02:53:15PM NOT BE AS IDENTIFIABLE BECAUSE THE VICTIM DOESN'T KNOW WHERE
02:53:19PM HE IS.
02:53:19PM BUT SHOT SPOTTER HAS BEEN ABLE TO DIRECT THESE OFFICERS TO
02:53:22PM THESE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY CAN FIND EVIDENCE, SHELL CASINGS,
02:53:26PM BLOOD, CLOTHING, VEHICLE.
02:53:28PM YES, WE SEE A VALUE IN THIS PROGRAM.
02:53:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
02:53:33PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:53:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WAS GOING TO ASK IF WE COULD HEAR FROM TAMPA
02:53:38PM POLICE DEPARTMENT.
02:53:38PM IT IS INTERESTING, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FUNDING FROM MORE
02:53:42PM POLICE OFFICERS.
02:53:43PM MY RECORD ON THAT IS JUST LIKE EVERYBODY HERE IS VERY CLEAR
02:53:47PM IN TERM OF SUPPORTING THAT.
02:53:48PM LAST BUDGET, I PROPOSED A VERY TINY, TINY, TINY .3 MILLAGE
02:53:54PM TO HIRE MORE POLICE OFFICERS AN GET MORE FIRE STATIONS.
02:53:57PM I STRONGLY SUPPORT THAT.
02:53:58PM HAD WE CAPPED THE DOWNTOWN CRA, WE COULD GET MORE MONEY TO
02:54:03PM HIRE POLICE OFFICERS.
02:54:04PM SO I -- I WILL THINK OF WHAT TO DO WITH THIS VOTE.
02:54:09PM I HAVE TO THINK FAST BECAUSE IT IS COMING UP.
02:54:11PM I SUPPORTED THIS IN THE PAST AND IT APPEARS TO ME ANOTHER
02:54:17PM TOOL IN THE TOOLBOX OF TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT TO FIGHT
02:54:19PM CRIME.
02:54:19PM OBVIOUSLY WANT TO PUT THEM WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN AND
02:54:24PM CONCERNED WITH HIRING FOR POLICE OFFICERS.
02:54:25PM WE NEED TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL WAYS TO FUND THAT THROUGHOUT
02:54:28PM THE CITY OF TAMPA BUDGET.
02:54:30PM BUT, YEAH, JUST MY RAMBLING THOUGHTS.
02:54:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND CARLSON.
02:54:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SAME QUESTION.
02:54:39PM YOU WERE IN THE ROOM WITH THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION.
02:54:41PM WHAT WE ARE GETTING FOR THE TAXPAYER MONEY, QUARTER OF A
02:54:46PM MILLION DOLLARS.
02:54:47PM WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR IT?
02:54:50PM >> THE ACCOUNT HAS BUDGETED FOR THIS ONE YEAR.
02:54:52PM IT IS NOT SHOWN TO BE BUDGETED FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
02:54:54PM WE ARE EXPLORING OTHER OPTIONS TO PAY FOR THIS SERVICE.
02:54:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ONE YEAR FROM THIS MONTH IS BUDGETED
02:55:00PM FLORIDA THIS YEAR, CORRECT.
02:55:01PM STARTING JUNE 20, OUR NEW CONTRACT.
02:55:06PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUNE TO JUNE?
02:55:09PM >> CORRECT.
02:55:09PM >> I REMEMBER WELL THE BRIEFING WITH THE GRANT MONEY.
02:55:12PM ANYTHING NEW TO ADD TO THAT ABOUT THE SUCCESS?
02:55:16PM HAVE YOU HAD ANY SUCCESS SINCE THE LAST TIME TAMPA PD WAS
02:55:19PM HERE USING THIS PROGRAM.
02:55:21PM >> AS FAR AS --
02:55:24PM >> SOLVING CRIMES.
02:55:25PM GETTING PERPETRATORS.
02:55:26PM >> YES, LIKE I WANT TO SAY BRIEFLY.
02:55:29PM I CAN GO TO ONE EXAMPLE THAT I FOUND WAS SHOT DETECTION CAME
02:55:35PM OUT.
02:55:35PM OFFICERS CAME ON SCENE.
02:55:36PM THEY DIDN'T LOCATE THE -- NO 911 -- NO 911 CALL CAME IN WHAT
02:55:41PM IT.
02:55:42PM THEY DIDN'T FIND THE DEFENDANT.
02:55:47PM THEY FOUND THE VEHICLE AND FOUND THE VICTIM.
02:55:51PM WITH SHOT PREVENTION, OFFICERS WERE STARTED TO EXPEDITE
02:55:55PM THEIR APPROACH TO THIS LOCATION AND OFFICERS WERE ABLE TO
02:55:57PM GET IN TIME WHERE THE DEFENDANT WAS STILL IN THE AREA.
02:56:00PM GET A DESCRIPTION FROM THE VICTIM OF THIS DEFENDANT.
02:56:05PM LOCATE THE DEFENDANT WITHIN A FEW BLOCKS.
02:56:07PM GET A SHOWUP AND POSITIVE ID AND ARREST WITH AGGRAVATED
02:56:13PM ASSAULT WITH A FIREARM.
02:56:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FULL DISCLOSE COMMUTER, PREVIOUS
02:56:17PM DISCUSSION WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE PBA AND THEY SUPPORTED
02:56:22PM THIS.
02:56:22PM THE PRESIDENT OF THE LABOR ORGANIZATION THAT REPRESENTS THE
02:56:25PM POLICE OFFICERS HAVE SUPPORTED THE PROGRAM.
02:56:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:56:29PM kt CARLSON I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT
02:56:33PM THE DATA, BUT THERE IS ALWAYS ONE EXCEPTION.
02:56:36PM THE PRIOR TIME THE PERSON WAS DECEASED ALREADY.
02:56:40PM MAYBE THIS ONE IS TOO.
02:56:41PM IF WE CAN GET THREE POLICE OFFICERS OR POLICE OFFICERS.
02:56:50PM WE WILL BE BETTER OFF.
02:56:51PM HUNDREDS CASE WHERE IS A POLICE OFFICER IS CALLED AND
02:56:54PM SOMETIMES THEY ARE EVEN SPLIT UP WITH THEIR PARTNER, BUT
02:56:57PM THEY SPEND TWO TO FIVE HOURS LOOKING AT SHELLS IF THEY FIND
02:57:02PM ANYTHING.
02:57:02PM A LOT OF TIMES THERE ARE NOTHING WHEN THEY FOUND THE SHELL
02:57:15PM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS THAT NEED TO BE IN THE
02:57:17PM FIELD TO SOLVE CRIME.
02:57:19PM WHERE SOMEONE WAS DECREASED ALREADY AND SOMEONE WAS TO
02:57:22PM EVENTUALLY CALL 911, WE SHOULD HAVE MORE POLICE OFFICERS IN
02:57:28PM THE FIELD AND THOUSANDS OF HOURS WASTED OF POLICE TIME
02:57:33PM BECAUSE OF FALSE POSITIVES.
02:57:34PM IT IS NOT WORTH IT.
02:57:35PM ACTUAL CRIME AND WE NEED POLICE OFFICERS OUT THERE TO
02:57:37PM PREVENT REGULAR CRIMES.
02:57:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SCHMID.
02:57:44PM >>MICHAEL SCHMID: MICHAEL SCHMID, POLICE ATTORNEY AND LEGAL
02:57:51PM ADVISOR.
02:57:51PM AS WAS TESTIFIED TO, THIS -- SPOT SHORTER HAS BEEN SHOWN TO
02:57:56PM ALLOW POLICE TO RESPOND WHEN 911 AREN'T BEING MADE.
02:57:59PM THAT MEANS WE ARE FINDING PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN
02:58:02PM FOUND ALIVE HAD SPOT SHORTER NOT EXISTED.
02:58:05PM BECAUSE OF SPOT SHORTER, I THINK WE SAID -- HOW MANY -- HOW
02:58:10PM MANY SPOTTER.
02:58:14PM 70% WAS SHOT SPOTTER ACTIVATION.
02:58:20PM REMAIN 7 % MAY NOT LOCATE THE SUSPECT WHO WAS SHOT AND IN
02:58:25PM THE PROCESS OF DYING OR MAY HAVE BEEN --
02:58:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT IS NOT ACCURATE.
02:58:28PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF -- I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH
02:58:32PM THIS DATA.
02:58:33PM YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE CHARGED, THERE WEREN'T 5 00
02:58:37PM CHARGES FILED AGAINST CASES.
02:58:38PM 500 CHARGES AND ONLY 17 OF THEM GOT 911 CALLS, THAT WOULD BE
02:58:46PM DIFFERENT.
02:58:47PM THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
02:58:49PM ANYWAY, YOU MAY KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE ALREADY.
02:58:53PM IT DISAPPOINTS ME WE ARE GETTING HALF DATA AND I SUPPORT THE
02:58:59PM POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR OFFICERS.
02:59:00PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MAKE A MOTION TO NOT APPROVE FUNDING FOR
02:59:03PM THAT THIS YEAR.
02:59:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
02:59:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:59:11PM AND SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:59:13PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ITEM NUMBER 14 -- SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
02:59:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A RESOLUTION.
02:59:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:59:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WITH REFERENCE TO THIS PARTICULAR
02:59:21PM RESOLUTION, THE MOTION SHOULD BE WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA.
02:59:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO NOT APPROVE THE RESOLUTION FOR FILE
02:59:28PM NUMBER PS 24-5503.
02:59:32PM >> A MOTION AND A SECOND.
02:59:35PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:59:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: I AM GLAD COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN BROUGHT UP THE
02:59:39PM POLICE UNION BECAUSE I OBVIOUSLY SPEAK TO FOLKS AT THE
02:59:42PM POLICE UNION.
02:59:43PM THE BIGGEST THING THEY ALWAYS SAY, WE NEED MORE POLICE
02:59:46PM OFFICERS.
02:59:46PM AND IF THEY WERE TO -- WANT TO GET RID OF SHOT SPOTTER TO
02:59:51PM FUND POLICE OFFICERS.
02:59:52PM I WOULD HAVE A -- I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN A CALL OR WOULD HAVE
02:59:55PM BEEN HERE TODAY.
02:59:56PM SO -- OBVIOUSLY WELL INTENTIONED AND WHAT NOT, BUT I
03:00:01PM RESPECTFULLY WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR THIS.
03:00:03PM NOT BE VOTING FOR THIS MOTION --
03:00:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: THEY ARE NOT HERE IN FAVOR OF IT.
03:00:10PM WHEN I SPOKE TO THEM, THEY SAID IT DOESN'T HURT -- IF THEY
03:00:14PM CARED ABOUT IT, THEY WOULD BE HERE TO ASK US TO VOTE FOR IT.
03:00:17PM BUT THEY ARE NOT HERE TO VOTE FOR IT EITHER MANISCALCO WE
03:00:22PM HAVE A MOTION.
03:00:23PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION?
03:00:26PM THE MOTION IS TO VOTE AGAINST FUNDING SHOT SPOTTER.
03:00:30PM VOTING DOWN NUMBER 4.
03:00:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN TRY IT APPEAR HAVING ONE EXTRA OFFICER
03:00:38PM FOR EVERY SINGLE SHIFT IN THAT DISTRICT.
03:00:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVEN IF WE DID THIS, IT DOESN'T ENSURE
03:00:45PM THAT THEY WILL HIRE AN OFFICER.
03:00:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT DOES.
03:00:48PM BECAUSE WE CAN SIMPLY MOVE THAT MONEY THERE.
03:00:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
03:00:52PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT WE CAN MOVE THAT MONEY FOR NEXT FISCAL
03:00:57PM YEAR.
03:00:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEXT FISCAL, YEAH.
03:00:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE CAN -- IF THE MAYOR APPROVES.
03:01:01PM WE ARE ALLOWED TO MOVE --
03:01:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MAYOR HAS TO INITIATE.
03:01:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING SHE DOESN'T WANT
03:01:12PM MORE.
03:01:13PM IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE HAVE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T GET DONE, I
03:01:16PM WANT YOU TO SAY THAT.
03:01:18PM I WANT TO YOU SAY, OH, YEAH, THAT IS FINE.
03:01:21PM WE CAN'T MOVE MONEY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.
03:01:23PM WE ABSOLUTELY CAN MOVE MONEY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.
03:01:25PM IT IS OUR JOBS.
03:01:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL NEVER DO THAT.
03:01:28PM YOU KNOW THAT.
03:01:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW YOUR HAVING THE ARGUMENT NOW.
03:01:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM NOT.
03:01:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
03:01:34PM A MOTION TO DENY AND VOTE DOWN ITEM NUMBER 14.
03:01:37PM ROLL CALL VOTE.
03:01:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: YES.
03:01:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
03:01:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NO.
03:01:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YES.
03:01:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
03:01:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO.
03:01:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES.
03:01:50PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN, VIERA AND MIRANDA
03:01:54PM VOTING NO.
03:01:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: NOTION APPROVE 14.
03:02:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO APPROVE 14.
03:02:05PM THE MOTION --
03:02:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: COULD YOU PLEASE ANNOUNCE.
03:02:10PM CLENDENIN YOU ARE THE LAWYER.
03:02:17PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CLENDENIN, VIERA AND MIRANDA
03:02:21PM VOTING NO.
03:02:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MOTION TO REJECT.
03:02:25PM >>CLERK: A MOTION TO DENY THE RESOLUTION.
03:02:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS GRANTS.
03:02:30PM NOW WE ARE PAYING FOR IT.
03:02:31PM IT CAN COME BACK ANOTHER DAY.
03:02:38PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:02:39PM ALL RIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 86 IS NEXT UNDER STAFF REPORTS.
03:02:49PM >>VIK BHIDE: I CAME DOWN.
03:02:56PM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY TO ADDRESS ITEM 86 THIS WAS
03:03:06PM CONDITIONED FROM MAY 16.
03:03:07PM ON THAT NOTE, MYSELF AND BRANDON CAMPBELL, WE DID MEET WITH
03:03:21PM HAD HER AND PROVIDED HER ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO THE
03:03:27PM COUNCIL OF THE CONTRACT.
03:03:28PM THE REASON FOR EXTERMINATION AND HOW THE ISSUE WORKED FOR AN
03:03:35PM APPROVED BUDGET.
03:03:37PM WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME.
03:03:39PM I WILL BE HAPPY --
03:03:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO YOU HAVE A MICROPHONE ON OR LAPTOP --
03:03:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME HEARING YOU.
03:03:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS VERY MUFFLED.
03:03:53PM >>VIK BHIDE: OH, LET ME SEE -- THE SAME MICROPHONE THAT I
03:03:58PM USUALLY USE.
03:03:59PM CAN YOU HEAR ME BETTER NOW?
03:04:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LITTLE BIT.
03:04:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A LITTLE.
03:04:04PM >>BILL CARLSON: VERY ECHOEY.
03:04:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
03:04:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SOMEONE ELSE IN THE ROOM LISTENING TO THIS.
03:04:15PM >>VIK BHIDE: NO, NO ONE ELSE HERE.
03:04:17PM LET ME SEE, I WILL MOVE ALL OF MY DEVICES OUT AND SEE IF YOU
03:04:22PM CAN HEAR BETTER AND IF NOT --
03:04:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHEN YOU ARE FACED THAT DIRECTION IT IS A
03:04:26PM LITTLE CLEARER SO THE MICROPHONE MAY BE WHERE YOU ARE
03:04:29PM FACING.
03:04:29PM WHEN YOU ARE FACING US, IT MUFFLES AGAIN.
03:04:32PM WHEN YOU TURN A LITTLE --
03:04:34PM >>VIK BHIDE: OH, CAN YOU HEAR ME BETTER WHEN I DO THIS?
03:04:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN HEAR YOU.
03:04:40PM I AM JUST FOCUSING.
03:04:42PM GO AHEAD, SIR.
03:04:43PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO I WILL START AGAIN.
03:04:45PM THIS SO THIS -- THIS ITEM WAS CONTINUED FROM MAY 16.
03:04:50PM THIS IS RELATED TO A PAVING CONTRACT, THE CITY-WIDE ROADWAY
03:04:56PM IMPROVEMENT CONTRACT AWARDED TO AJAX.
03:05:00PM WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THIS CONTRACT NOT BE RENEWED.
03:05:04PM AND PENDING INVOICE PROVIDE 4500 COUNCIL HAD REQUESTED
03:05:11PM ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THIS.
03:05:14PM THE SUBSEQUENT TO MAY 16.
03:05:16PM BRANDON CAMPBELL AND I DID MEET WITH HIS HAGAR AND DID
03:05:26PM PROVIDE INFORMATION AND SHE SUBMITTED A REPORT TO CITY
03:05:29PM COUNCIL VERIFYING THE NATURE OF THE CONTRACT.
03:05:31PM THE UPSET LIMIT ITSELF, AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO TOUCH UPON
03:05:36PM THAT AND HOW A WORK ORDER CONTRACT.
03:05:40PM WHERE WORK ORDERS ARE ISSUED BASED ON APPROVED CAPITAL
03:05:46PM BUDGETS AND SEVERAL PROJECTS UNDER THIS TYPE OF A CONTRACT.
03:05:51PM AND I BELIEVE THAT REPORT ALSO MENTIONED WHY THAT CONTRACT
03:05:55PM IS NOT BEING RENEWED.
03:05:56PM AND SHOULD YOU APPROVE THE TERMINATION OF THIS CONTRACT,
03:06:01PM WHICH IS ALL PARTIES AT LEAST STAFF, AS WELL AS THE
03:06:05PM CONTRACTOR IN AGREEMENT WITH, WE DO INTEND TO ISSUE A
03:06:09PM SIMILAR CONTRACT AND GET A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR ON BOARD
03:06:14PM THAT WE CAN WORK WITH.
03:06:15PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
03:06:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY.
03:06:23PM NO?
03:06:24PM IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS A MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
03:06:27PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:06:28PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
03:06:30PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
03:06:32PM OPPOSED?
03:06:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU TO OUR FINANCIAL ANALYST FOR
03:06:36PM PROVIDING.
03:06:37PM VIK SAID, GOT THE BRIEFING AND PART OF THE REASON THIS MOVED
03:06:41PM SO QUICKLY BECAUSE OF THE INFORMATION SHE PROVIDED.
03:06:44PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:06:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:06:47PM NEXT UP, ITEM NUMBER 87 TO BE HEARD WITH ITEM 27.
03:06:52PM YES, SIR.
03:06:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, DENNIS ROGERO,
03:07:04PM CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
03:07:04PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GOOD AFTERNOON.
03:07:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TODAY AND
03:07:09PM THANK EACH OF YOU FOR THE TIME AND ATTENTION YOU HAVE TAKEN
03:07:12PM TO ALL THE MYRIAD ASPECTS OF WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR TODAY.
03:07:15PM I ALSO APPRECIATE YOUR INTELLIGENCE IN MOVING THIS ITEM TO
03:07:19PM -- TO ABUT NUMBER 87.
03:07:22PM BECAUSE THEY KIND OF GO TOGETHER.
03:07:24PM AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION.
03:07:26PM THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE A PART 1 AND PART 2.
03:07:29PM WE CAN FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE TACKLE THIS ITEM A COUPLE OF
03:07:33PM DIFFERENT WAYS.
03:07:34PM WE HAVE ALL OF OUR MYRIAD TEAMS, SOLID WASTE TEAM, FINANCIAL
03:07:39PM TEAM, FINANCIAL ADVISOR, OUR RATE CONSULTANT IS AVAILABLE
03:07:44PM VIRTUALLY.
03:07:45PM WE CAN DO THE ENTIRETY OF PRESENTATION OR MOST OF IT THAT WE
03:07:49PM DID BEFORE, ALONG WITH NEW INFORMATION THAT COUNCIL HAD
03:07:52PM ASKED FOR OR SIMPLY ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL HAD.
03:08:02PM FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, HOW MUCH MORE OF A REEDUCATION.
03:08:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE NEW INFORMATION.
03:08:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE SLIDE SHOW.
03:08:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT'S WHAT I AM ASKING.
03:08:13PM WE CAN.
03:08:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: FOCUS ON THE NEW INFORMATION.
03:08:16PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: JUST THE NEW INFORMATION.
03:08:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOUR MICROPHONE, SIR.
03:08:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
03:08:23PM I HAVE THE PRESENTATION HERE.
03:08:24PM AND DIRECTOR WASHINGTON AND I -- I AM SORRY, WE WILL GO
03:08:28PM THROUGH IT AND HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.
03:08:32PM SEEING THIS, AGAIN THE FUND BALANCE ISSUE AND DISCUSS THE
03:08:35PM CAUSES ASSOCIATED.
03:08:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I SAY ONE THING.
03:08:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APOLOGIZE.
03:08:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO LITTLE YOU ALL KNOW I WAS OVERSEAS
03:08:45PM WHEN YOU ALL PRESENTED.
03:08:46PM AND I WATCHED THE WHOLE VIDEO AND LISTENED TO YOUR
03:08:52PM PRESENTATION AND.
03:08:55PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE APPRECIATE THE TIME AND BRIEFS.
03:08:58PM THIS IS COUNCIL'S REQUEST FOR THE USE ENTIRELY ASSOCIATED
03:09:04PM WITH THE REVENUE.
03:09:04PM IF I CAN HAVE THE ELMO AVAILABLE.
03:09:09PM YOU RECALL THE PREVIOUS SLIDE AND THANK YOU COUNCIL.
03:09:26PM THIS WAS CHARGING MORE THAN WHAT WAS REQUIRED.
03:09:28PM WE HAD A SURPLUS.
03:09:29PM SO WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL ASKING FOR A REVISION AND IF YOU CAN
03:09:33PM GET BACK TO THE PRESENTATION THERE WE ARE.
03:09:56PM THERE WE ARE.
03:09:56PM YOU WILL SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
03:09:57PM AND THE DIFFERENCE IS THE BLACK PORTION OF THOSE BAR CHARTS.
03:10:02PM WE HAVE NOT INCLUDED IN THE INITIAL BAR CHART THE DEBT
03:10:05PM SERVICE COVERAGE REQUIRED FOR THOSE REVENUES.
03:10:07PM WE HAVE SIMPLY PUT -- IN OUR WORLD WHAT ARE BONA FIDE
03:10:11PM EXPENDITURES.
03:10:12PM WE HAVE NEEDS IN EXCESS OF JUST THE EXPENDITURES, WE HAVE TO
03:10:16PM CARRY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LIQUID FUNDING TO MAKE SURE.
03:10:20PM AND WE WILL GET INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL IN JUST A MOMENT
03:10:23PM TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE RATING
03:10:27PM AGENCIES IN THE MARKET.
03:10:27PM SO HAVING SAID THAT, YOU SEE, WE STILL HAVE THE DIFFERENT
03:10:31PM COMPONENTS.
03:10:32PM THE DEBT SERVICE ASSOCIATED WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.
03:10:36PM THE OPERATING CAPITAL, BECAUSE IT IS NOT JUST -- NOT JUST
03:10:40PM PERSONNEL AND OPERATIONS.
03:10:41PM THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY REMAINS.
03:10:44PM THE DARK BLUE LINE.
03:10:46PM AND WE SEE -- BEGINNING IN FISCAL YEAR '26.
03:10:50PM IF COUNCIL APPROVES.
03:10:53PM WE WILL BE ON TRACK OR ON PAR EQUAL OUR ANTICIPATED USES.
03:10:58PM SEE THE VARIOUS COST INCREASE FROM DIRECTOR WASHINGTON.
03:11:06PM OUR COMPARISON OF RATES.
03:11:07PM THERE IS THE STATIC RESIDENTIAL REVENUE FOR ABOUT TEN YEARS.
03:11:11PM THE STATIC TIPPING FEE REVENUE.
03:11:14PM ALL OF THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE WASTE
03:11:19PM ENERGY AND SOLID WASTE RELOCATION.
03:11:22PM THERE IS YOUR MONTHLY -- THE MONTHLY INCREASE BY FISCAL YEAR
03:11:26PM AND AGAIN AT COUNCIL'S REQUEST TO THE RIGHT.
03:11:29PM WE HAVE PUT THE CUMULATIVE TOTAL.
03:11:33PM MONTHLY INCREASE $3.32.
03:11:36PM SECOND YEAR FISCAL YEAR 2026.
03:11:38PM WE ADDED ANOTHER $3.63.
03:11:42PM TO THE FAR RIGHT.
03:11:43PM THE TOTAL OVER TWO YEARS MONTHLY, $6.95.
03:11:48PM THIS IS NOT ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE THAT CUMULATIVE COLUMN ON
03:11:53PM THE RIGHT.
03:11:53PM IT STILL EQUATES TO THE $20.05 WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE END OF
03:12:00PM THE THAT FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.
03:12:01PM AND, OF COURSE, WE STILL INTEND TO OFFER THAT -- THAT
03:12:06PM RELIEF.
03:12:06PM THE CUSTOMER SERVICE -- THE CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE PROGRAM OF
03:12:10PM LOW INCOME, 50% AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME.
03:12:14PM COUNCIL HAS ASKED WHAT IS THE 50% AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME.
03:12:18PM IT IS ABOUT $47,000 FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR IN THE TAMPA MSA OR
03:12:24PM METROPOLITAN STATISTICAL AREA.
03:12:27PM COUNCIL HAD ALSO ASKED HOW MUCH OF THE GENERAL FUND IS
03:12:30PM PAYING THIS.
03:12:30PM BECAUSE COUNCIL WILL RECALL THAT WE CAN'T USE THESE FUNDS TO
03:12:37PM GET PEOPLE A BREAK.
03:12:38PM WE HAVE TO TREAT EVERYTHING CONSISTENTLY AND EQUALLY.
03:12:40PM ANY RELIEF FOR THOSE WHO MAY FIND THIS A HARD HAS TO COME
03:12:45PM FROM THE GENERAL FUND.
03:12:48PM $260,000 TO $270,000 IN THE INITIAL YEAR.
03:12:51PM THAT IS OUR PROJECTION.
03:12:53PM OF COURSE, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
03:12:56PM IT.
03:12:56PM AND THE NEEDS AS THE YEARS GO BY, BUT ABOUT A QUARTER OF A
03:13:01PM MILLION DOLLARS OR A BIT MORE WILL BE THE BURDEN ON THE
03:13:04PM GENERAL FUND FOR PROVIDING THAT RELIEF.
03:13:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:13:07PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EXCUSE ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT LOOKING
03:13:10PM AT YOUR CHART FOR '25, '26, '27 THROUGH '29.
03:13:16PM IT STARTS WITH '24, '25, '26.
03:13:20PM NO PRINCIPAL PAYMENT AT ALL.
03:13:22PM WHAT I HAVE IS CORRECT?
03:13:24PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APOLOGIZE, WHAT SLIDE ARE YOU LOOKING AT?
03:13:27PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT THE SLIDE, INCREASE, BUT I AM LOOKING
03:13:31PM AT WHAT YOU GAVE US -- OR SOMEBODY GAVE US -- THE PRINCIPALS
03:13:34PM FOR '24, '25 AND '26 --
03:13:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
03:13:40PM YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE ITEM.
03:13:41PM NO, WE WILL NOT -- WE DO NOT INTEND TO PAY ANY PRINCIPAL
03:13:46PM INITIALLY BECAUSE, AGAIN, THE PLAN IS TO ROLL ALL THE
03:13:49PM EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BANKNOTE INTO -- THAT IS ITEM
03:13:53PM NUMBER 87.
03:13:53PM WE WILL BE GETTING TO THAT.
03:13:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IF I MAY ASK, THE BANKNOTE DOESN'T COVER
03:13:58PM THE TOTAL OF THE COST OF THE PROJECT.
03:14:00PM BECAUSE IN 2029, THERE IS A PAYMENT OF $112,466
03:14:07PM THUNDERSHOWERS 666.
03:14:09PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: CAN I ASK THAT WE WAIT UNTIL THAT ITEM --
03:14:13PM THAT WAY WE CAN TIE IT ALL TOGETHER.
03:14:15PM I WILL DEFINITELY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
03:14:17PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO KNOW BECAUSE I AM LOOKING AT
03:14:19PM TWO THINGS.
03:14:21PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APPRECIATE YOU SCRUTINIZING IT.
03:14:23PM THANK YOU.
03:14:23PM WHERE WERE WE, SLIDE 12?
03:14:31PM THANK YOU.
03:14:32PM THANK YOU.
03:14:32PM WE REVISED THAT SLIDE.
03:14:34PM WE PROVIDED THE AMI INFORMATION AND ALSO THE BURDEN ON THE
03:14:38PM GENERAL FUND FOR PROVIDING THAT RELIEF.
03:14:46PM YOU HAVE SEEN DIRECTOR WASHINGTON HAVE SPOKEN TO NEW
03:14:49PM MISCELLANEOUS FEES AND COMPARABLES TO OTHER LOCALITIES.
03:14:52PM YOU HAVE SEEN THIS, THE AVERAGE MONTHLY UTILITY BILL.
03:14:58PM WE TALKED ABOUT -- AGAIN, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT MY
03:15:01PM INTERNAL TEAM AND PUBLIC RESOURCE ADVISORY GROUP.
03:15:05PM YOU KNOW, JUST THE EXPERT IN THE FIELD AND USED THEM BEFORE,
03:15:09PM OF COURSE, AND -- THE PIPES PROGRAM WAS AN EXCELLENT
03:15:13PM TEMPLATES FOR THIS.
03:15:14PM TALKED OF THE RATING METHOD.
03:15:17PM THE VARIOUS RATING METHOD CRITERIA ASSOCIATED WITH THE
03:15:22PM RATING AGENCIES.
03:15:23PM AGAIN, WE WANT TO MEET OUR BENCHMARKS TO THE BEST OF OUR
03:15:27PM ABILITY BECAUSE WHAT THE RATING AGENCIES DECIDE IS GOING TO
03:15:29PM HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON HOW MUCH MONEY WE PAY.
03:15:32PM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS NOW.
03:15:41PM TRYING TO SOCIALIZE THE PUBLIC THAT NOT IF -- BUT WHEN, YOU
03:15:45PM HEARD ME SAY THAT BEFORE.
03:15:46PM WE THINK THAT WHEN IS NOW.
03:15:48PM HERE IS OUR FINANCING PLAN THAT HAVEN'T CHANGED.
03:15:51PM AGAIN, STEP ONE IS ITEM NUMBER 87, WHICH FOLLOWS THIS ITEM.
03:15:57PM AND, AGAIN, THEY ARE DIRECTLY TIED TOGETHER.
03:16:00PM BECAUSE THE ONLY WAY WE WILL BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THAT
03:16:05PM BANKNOTE IS WITH THE ISSUANCE OF DEBT.
03:16:07PM AGAIN THE BIG PICTURE.
03:16:11PM AGAIN, WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS PLANNED DOWN
03:16:14PM THE LINE AND ALL OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
03:16:17PM AND YOU SEE THE TOTAL INTEREST COST IS SIGNIFICANT.
03:16:21PM THAT HAS BEEN COMMENTED ON.
03:16:24PM AND RIGHTLY SO.
03:16:26PM A QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLAR FOR THE PROJECT PROCEEDS AND
03:16:32PM AT THIS TIME WE PROJECT ANOTHER QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLARS
03:16:36PM IN INTEREST.
03:16:36PM I WILL SAY THIS, ALTHOUGH SEEM LIKE IT.
03:16:41PM AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT TO ME EITHER,
03:16:45PM 4.5% INTEREST IS -- IS HISTORICALLY NOT THE WORST INTEREST
03:16:52PM RATE IN THE WORLD AND SOME OF US ARE AT AN AGE WHEN IT IS
03:16:56PM MUCH, MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT.
03:16:58PM BUT FROM ABOUT THE MID-1960s UNTIL THE GREAT FINANCIAL
03:17:03PM CRISIS OF THE GREAT RECESSION OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
03:17:06PM IT.
03:17:06PM WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS, YOU KNOW, IN FACT -- CAN I HAVE MY
03:17:11PM ELMO?
03:17:17PM JUST TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT.
03:17:19PM IF I CAN HAVE THE ELMO UP PLEASE.
03:17:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU BROKE IT.
03:17:44PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I WAS GOING TO SAY.
03:17:45PM THAT'S IT.
03:17:46PM CAN YOU STICK TO ONE FORM OF PRESENTATION.
03:17:48PM THIS IS ENTIRELY ON ME.
03:17:50PM I PRINTED THIS OFF A SHORT WHILE AGO.
03:17:52PM FEDERAL FUND RATES SINCE THE 1960 UP TO THE PRESENT.
03:17:57PM YOU CAN SEE QUITE A CRAGGY MOUNTAIN.
03:18:00PM QUITE A CRAGGY MOUNTAIN CHAIN AND YOU SEE FROM THE MID-'60s
03:18:05PM UP TO THE GREAT FINANCIAL CRISIS.
03:18:07PM FEDERAL FUNDS RATE.
03:18:08PM NOT ENTIRELY APPLES-TO-APPLES COMPARISON AND A COMPARISON OF
03:18:14PM HOW MUCH IT WILL COST FOR DEBT DEPENDING ON YOUR CREDIT
03:18:16PM RATING, ETC.
03:18:17PM THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THE TIME, MAYBE FOUR AND A
03:18:21PM HALF% WASN'T ALL THAT BAD.
03:18:23PM I AM NOT SAYING FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT IS GREAT, BUT I AM
03:18:26PM SAYING COMING OFF THE GREAT FINANCIAL CRISIS, YOU KNOW THE
03:18:30PM FEDERAL RESERVE IN AN ATTEMPT TO GET THE ECONOMY GOING TO
03:18:33PM STIMULATE THE ECONOMY DROP THE COST OF MONEY DEPENDING ON
03:18:38PM WHO YOU WERE, ZERO.
03:18:39PM AND WANTING TO SLOW THE ECONOMY A LITTLE HERE.
03:18:43PM YOU WANT TO SEE -- TO SLOW THE ECONOMY HERE STARTING RAISING
03:18:48PM RATES AND WE HAVE THE PANDEMIC.
03:18:49PM SO, AGAIN, IN THE EFFORT TO KEEP THE ECONOMY SIMULATED,
03:18:54PM DROPPED THOSE RATES TO ZERO OR NEARLY ZERO.
03:18:57PM OF COURSE WE ARE NOT THERE NOW.
03:18:58PM I FORGET HOW MANY CONSECUTIVE INCREASES THE FEDERAL RESERVE
03:19:03PM HAVE DONE.
03:19:04PM ALL IN ALL, WE HAVE GOTTEN USE TO VERY, VERY CHEAP
03:19:08PM FINANCING.
03:19:08PM WHEN I SAY "WE" I MEAN THE ENTIRE WORLD.
03:19:11PM THE FEDERAL IS HE SERVE OF THE U.S. OR THE EUROPEAN CENTRAL
03:19:15PM BANK IN WHICH JUST CUT THEIR RATES FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER.
03:19:18PM I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG.
03:19:19PM I THINK TODAY.
03:19:20PM WE HAVE GOTTEN USE OF VERY, VERY INEXPENSIVE MONEY.
03:19:23PM WILL WE GET BACK TO THAT SCENARIO.
03:19:27PM I HOPE SO, AND I DON'T KNOW.
03:19:29PM SO THERE IS A BIT OF SHOCK INCLUDING, INCLUDING US THAT DEAL
03:19:34PM WITH THIS CONSTANTLY BECAUSE THE WHOLE WORLD GOT USED TO
03:19:39PM VERY, VERY LOW INTEREST RATES AND CERTAINLY NOT THERE
03:19:43PM ANYMORE.
03:19:43PM CAN I HAVE THE PRESENTATION?
03:19:49PM THANK YOU.
03:19:49PM I AM NOT GOING TELL YOU THAT 4.5% IS GREAT, BUT IF YOU ARE
03:19:56PM LOOK IT THE IT HISTORICALLY, NOT THE WORSE THING.
03:20:00PM COUNCIL ASKED FOR DIFFERENT SCENARIOS AND DIFFERENT
03:20:04PM ALTERNATIVES AND WE WILL PROVIDE THEM ON THE SLIDES TO COME.
03:20:07PM I WANT TO CLARIFY, THESE ALTERNATIVES WE ARE NOT
03:20:10PM RECOMMENDING AND NOT PROPOSING.
03:20:12PM WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING AND PROPOSING IS, OF COURSE, WHAT
03:20:15PM IS IN YOUR PACKAGE.
03:20:16PM BUT COUNCIL ASKED, AND WE DO WANT TO PROVIDE -- AND IT IS
03:20:20PM GOOD QUESTIONS AND EDUCATIONAL, I THINK, FOR EVERYBODY TO
03:20:23PM SEE THESE ALTERNATIVES.
03:20:26PM FIRST, IF I CAN BREAK DOWN THE COMPONENTS OF THE RATE
03:20:34PM INCREASE FISCAL YEAR 2025 AND YOU SEE THEM ON SCREEN HERE.
03:20:38PM YOU SEE THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY, THE INCREASE IS JUST TO
03:20:44PM KEEP THE BUSINESS RUNNING.
03:20:45PM THE DARK BLUE.
03:20:46PM OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.
03:20:47PM I AM SORRY?
03:20:49PM OH, THAT IS PURPLE?
03:20:51PM PURPLE?
03:20:52PM THE DARK BLUE-PURPLE SLICE IS -- IS $2.26.
03:21:00PM YOU RECALL THE MONTHLY AVERAGE INCREASE FOR RESIDENTS IS
03:21:08PM $3.32 AND $226 OF THAT INCREASE IS JUST TO KEEP THE BUSINESS
03:21:12PM OPERATING.
03:21:13PM I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU AND THE PUBLIC THAT WE REALLY HAVE
03:21:16PM VERY LITTLE FLEXIBILITY IN VOTER FOR THAT PARTICULAR
03:21:20PM COMPONENT.
03:21:20PM WE HAVE HEARD THE ALTERNATIVES FOR -- FOR -- AND ACTUALLY I
03:21:25PM WILL GET INTO THAT IN WASTE ENERGY IN JUST A MINUTE.
03:21:29PM BUT YOU HAVE HEARD THE SOLID WASTE EXPERTS SAY THAT THEY ARE
03:21:32PM RUNNING AS LEAN AS THEY CAN WITH THE -- YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE
03:21:37PM CURRENT AND ANTICIPATED WORKLOAD AND GROWTH ASSOCIATED IN
03:21:41PM THE CITY.
03:21:42PM SO, AGAIN, I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THERE IS NO FLEXIBILITY ON
03:21:46PM $2.26.
03:21:48PM AND WE HAVE -- WE HAVE PUSHED -- PULLED THAT OUT FOR YOU
03:21:53PM FROM A SCHEMATIC PERSPECTIVE SO YOU CAN SEE THE SLICE ON THE
03:21:56PM RIGHT.
03:21:56PM AND ALL OF THE EXPENSES THAT ARE ENCOMPASSED IN OPERATIONS
03:22:00PM AND MAINTENANCE ON THE LEFT.
03:22:02PM AND I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE DIRECTOR, BUT IF I AM THE
03:22:07PM DIRECTOR, I AM GOING TO TELL YOU -- I GUESS I AM.
03:22:09PM BUT YOU TELL ME, WE HAVE TO DO THOSE THINGS.
03:22:12PM WE HAVE TO PAY FOR FUEL.
03:22:13PM WE GOT TO PAY FOR UTILITIES, ETC., ETC.
03:22:15PM ARE YOU AM I SPEAKING ENOUGH ON IT OR YOU WANT ME TO EXPAND.
03:22:22PM LET ME STEAL YOUR THUNDER.
03:22:25PM OF COURSE IF YOU CAN BREAK IT DOWN INTO THE NEXT COMPONENT.
03:22:27PM THE WASTE ENERGY FACILITY.
03:22:29PM YOU SEE AT ABOUT 11% OR $.35 OF THAT $3.32 THAT WE ARE
03:22:36PM TALKING ABOUT.
03:22:37PM I WOULD SUBMIT TO CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THAT WE ALSO
03:22:42PM HAVE NO FLEXIBILITY WHEN IT COME TO THAT COMPONENT.
03:22:45PM THE CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
03:22:48PM THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE.
03:22:50PM YOU RECALL, THIS WAS -- THIS WAS A RELATIVELY SHORT-TERM
03:22:54PM PROJECT.
03:22:54PM ONE AND DONE.
03:22:55PM WE HAVE ALREADY SPENT $80 MILLION ON THE WASTE ENERGY
03:22:59PM FACILITY PREDICATED ON THE NECESSITY OF THE ISSUING DEBT AND
03:23:05PM THAT IS ITEM NUMBER 87 FOLLOWING THIS ONE.
03:23:07PM AND THE MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT.
03:23:09PM MONEY OUT THE DOOR.
03:23:10PM THE WORK BEING DONE.
03:23:12PM COMPLETION IS IMMINENT.
03:23:13PM SO, AGAIN, THE $2.26.
03:23:17PM AND THE $.35, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY FLEXIBILITY NOT TO
03:23:21PM GO FORWARD WITH THOSE COMPONENTS.
03:23:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
03:23:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
03:23:30PM BECAUSE THE 120 -- I WAS TOLD THAT IT IS STILL $100 MILLION
03:23:35PM FOR THE WASTE ENERGY RETROFIT.
03:23:37PM AND THE $20 MILLION WAS OTHER PROJECTS.
03:23:40PM AND THOSE AREN'T IN THESE OTHERS BLUE AND AVERAGING
03:23:47PM EGGPLANT-COLORED AUBERGINE.
03:23:52PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AUBERGINE -- THEY ARE.
03:23:56PM THE $120 MILLION ON THE LEFT -- THE $125 MILLION IS
03:24:03PM GREEN AUBERGINE.
03:24:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS EGGPLANT.
03:24:12PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MY IGNORANCE.
03:24:14PM THE WASTE ENERGY COMPONENT.
03:24:16PM I HAVE ITEMIZATION OF THE OTHER.
03:24:18PM ALL WASTE TO ENERGY -- I APOLOGIZE IN THE BACK THERE.
03:24:22PM CAN I HAVE THE ELMO AGAIN.
03:24:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
03:24:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE HAVE BROKEN IT DOWN AND CONFUSION.
03:24:40PM YOU SEE THE RETROFIT, THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF IT.
03:24:44PM OTHER WASTE ENERGY PROJECTS THAT DIRECTOR WASHINGTON CAN
03:24:47PM EXPAND ON.
03:24:48PM THIS IS WHAT WE CALL THE PHOENIX PROPERTY.
03:24:51PM WE TALKED ABOUT -- THIS IS THE -- I AM NOT MAKING THIS UP.
03:24:54PM BULL-NOSED WATER WALL TUBE REPLACEMENT A CONTRACT APPROVED
03:24:59PM AND THE MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT AGAIN OUT AT THE McKAY BAY
03:25:03PM WASTE ENERGY FACILITY AND A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT FOR
03:25:07PM CLOSING COST.
03:25:08PM THERE IS YOUR $125.5 MILLION NOT-TO-EXCEED AMOUNT THAT WE
03:25:14PM HAVE TOWARD THE BANKNOTE.
03:25:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
03:25:19PM SO I GUESS MY QUESTION, THE $5.2 MILLION, MR. WASHINGTON,
03:25:26PM CAN YOU EXPLAINED A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT THOSE $5.2 MILLION
03:25:30PM OTHER PROJECTS ARE.
03:25:31PM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: OKAY.
03:25:32PM LARRY WASHINGTON, DIRECTOR OF THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT.
03:25:35PM SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, PROGRAM MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.
03:25:38PM SO ADDITIONAL $5.2 MILLION ENCOMPASSES PERIODIC MAINTENANCE
03:25:42PM WE HAD TO PUSH FORWARD AND PULL OUT OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE
03:25:46PM CAN'T REALLY DO WHEN THE PLANT IS RUNNING AT FULL CAPACITY.
03:25:49PM THAT IS WHAT IT IS.
03:25:50PM WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THE BULL NOSE LIKE YOU DO EARLIER
03:25:54PM FOR $272 MILLION.
03:25:56PM SINCE THE PLANT SHUT DOWN.
03:25:58PM WE HAVE OUR 55 EMPLOYEES FOCUSED ON CONCURRING MAINTENANCE.
03:26:03PM WHILE OUR CONTRACTOR IS WORKING, CCPI, WE ARE CONSTANTLY
03:26:07PM WORKING ON THESE OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL.
03:26:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE $5.2 MILLION IS WORKING ON OTHER PROJECTS
03:26:13PM THAT ARE PROBABLY JUST FASTER AND EASIER TO DO WITH THE
03:26:16PM PLANT SHUTDOWN?
03:26:18PM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: YES.
03:26:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
03:26:19PM >>LARRY WASHINGTON: NO PROBLEM.
03:26:22PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
03:26:23PM IF WE CAN KEEP THE ELMO -- IF I CAN GET BACK TO THE
03:26:32PM PRESENTATION.
03:26:32PM WHOOPS -- THERE WE ARE THERE.
03:26:34PM THANK YOU.
03:26:35PM THE NEXT COMPONENT IS THE SOLID WASTE RELOCATION COMPLEX
03:26:41PM PROJECT.
03:26:42PM AND YOU SEE THAT IN WHAT I WOULD CALL LIGHT BLUE COMPONENT
03:26:52PM THERE.
03:26:56PM THIS -- AND THEN YOU SEE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF
03:26:59PM THIS SOLID WASTE RELOCATION PROJECT ON THE -- ON THE LEFT.
03:27:03PM I WON'T GO INTO ALL OF THOSE IN GREAT DETAIL, BUT WHAT I
03:27:08PM WILL SAY IS WHILE THIS PROJECT IS NOT WHAT I WOULD IDENTIFY
03:27:13PM AS URGENT, LIKE THE WASTE ENERGY PLANT, YOU WILL RECALL,
03:27:17PM THERE WAS A TREMENDOUS SENSE OF URGENCY FOR THE WASTE ENERGY
03:27:21PM PLANT.
03:27:21PM IT WAS -- THE CONDITION OF THAT FACILITY IS KEEPING PEOPLE
03:27:24PM UP AT NIGHT.
03:27:24PM WE DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT WAS GOING TO STAY A VIABLE SOLID
03:27:29PM WASTE FUNCTION.
03:27:29PM AND YOU HAVE HEARD THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH NOT HAVING A
03:27:33PM WASTE-TO-ENERGY PLANT.
03:27:35PM THIS IS NOT IN THAT SAME SITUATION, BUT YOU HAVE HEARD ALL
03:27:40PM OF THE VARIOUS BENEFITS THAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL HAPPEN WITH
03:27:45PM THE RELOCATION OF THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT FROM SPRUCE
03:27:48PM STREET TO 34th STREET.
03:27:49PM SO WHILE I WOULDN'T CLARIFY IT AS URGENT, WE WOULD IDENTIFY
03:27:54PM IT AS -- AS -- AS A GREAT ADVANTAGE FROM THE BUSINESS
03:27:58PM PERSPECTIVE.
03:27:58PM NOW I KNOW OTHER ADVANTAGES PERHAPS IF YOU ARE IN THE
03:28:01PM NEIGHBORHOOD, IF YOU LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:28:03PM AND INDUSTRIAL USE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:28:09PM AND WE ALSO TALKED OF THE POTENTIAL VALUE OF THAT LAND IF
03:28:15PM OUR FACILITIES ARE NOT ON IT.
03:28:16PM WE ARE NOT ABLE TO QUANTIFY IT RIGHT NOW, BUT THE GENERAL
03:28:20PM CONSENSUS IS IT IS A VERY VALUABLE, VALUABLE PIECE OF
03:28:24PM PROPERTY.
03:28:24PM WE HAVE SIMILARLY BUT ON A SMALLER SCALE, WE HAVE ALS
03:28:30PM ALREADY SPENT FUNDING ON THIS PROJECT, ABOUT 6.4 MILLION.
03:28:34PM PRIMARILY ON DESIGN AND ASSOCIATED EXPENSES.
03:28:38PM SO WE ARE -- WE ARE NOT NECK DEEP LIKE WE ARE ON THE WASTE
03:28:43PM ENERGY PLANT, BUT WE HAVE TAKEN A BIT OF A JUMP INTO THIS
03:28:46PM PROJECT, AGAIN, PREDICATED ON RATE INCREASES AND PREDICATED
03:28:50PM ON THE DEBT ISSUANCE.
03:28:52PM AND WE WILL GET MORE INTO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
03:28:55 AND THE FINAL COMPONENT IN ABOUT 33 CENTS OR 10% OF THE
03:29:01 MONTHLY INCREASE OF $3.33, AND WE REFERENCED THIS BEFORE.
03:29:06 THESE ARE ALL THOSE OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, AND
03:29:10 YOU SEE A LIST OF SOME OF THEM ON THE LEFT, THAT THE SOLID
03:29:14 WASTE DEPARTMENT STILL WOULD LIKE TO DO.
03:29:16 SOONER OR LATER, AGAIN I WON'T SPEAK FOR THE DIRECTOR, A LOT
03:29:21 OF ATTENTION HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE SOLID WASTE RELOCATION
03:29:25 PROJECT AND THE WASTE TO ENERGY PROJECT, AND WITH VERY GOOD
03:29:28 REASON.
03:29:29 THE VERY LARGE AND THEY ARE VERY IMPORTANT, BUT AGAIN THERE
03:29:33 ARE 100 AND, WHAT, 40 MILLION-DOLLAR BUSINESS AND THEY ARE
03:29:39 EXPECTED TO BE OPERATING LIKE A BUSINESS.
03:29:41 WITH A 200 MILLION, I THINK, RIGHT NOW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS
03:29:45 PROGRAM.
03:29:47 AND THIS IS 10% OR 33 CENTS FOR THOSE OTHER PROJECTS.
03:29:51 NOW, I WILL SAY, AGAIN, WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING IT, BUT YOU
03:29:58 SEE -- AND THIS IS COINCIDENTAL, KIND OF EASY MATH, 33 CENTS
03:30:03 IS ABOUT 10% OF THAT $3.33 INCREASE.
03:30:07 THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEFER THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS TO A
03:30:10 LATER DATE, AND REDUCE THE LATE INCREASE.
03:30:16 AND AGAIN IT'S JUST COINCIDENTALLY IS ASSOCIATED WITH ABOUT
03:30:21 10% OR 33 CENTS.
03:30:24 IS DEFERRING THESE PROJECTS WORTH 33 CENTS A MONTH?
03:30:27 I DON'T KNOW.
03:30:28 I AM NOT THE PERSON TO ANSWER THAT.
03:30:31 BUT COUNCIL ASKED FOR ALTERNATIVES, AND THE SAME LOGIC, IF
03:30:37 YOU WILL, IS APPLICABLE TO THE SOLID WASTE RELOCATIONS,
03:30:42 ABOUT 11% OR 38 CENTS.
03:30:46 OUR POSITION IS WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT RELOCATION
03:30:49 SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BUT AGAIN IT'S ABOUT 38 CENTS OF
03:30:53 SAVINGS.
03:30:54 TO GIVE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT WOULD
03:31:00 MEAN, THIS WAS SLIDE 16, AND YOU SEE ON THE LEFT THERE THE
03:31:04 MONTHLY INCREASE IN CUMULATIVE INCREASE STRUCK THROUGH AND
03:31:09 THE TWO RIGHT MOST COLUMNS ARE IF RESULT OF REDUCING THE
03:31:13 RATE INCREASE 10%, THAT 33 CENTS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED.
03:31:18 EACH YEAR, CUMULATIVELY AND OVER A FIVE-YEAR PERIOD WE GO
03:31:22 FROM JUST OVER $20 A MONTH TO JUST OVER $18 A MONTH.
03:31:32 AND THE IMPACT ON THE MONTHLY AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL UTILITY
03:31:36 BILL WITH THE OTHER INCREASES THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO TAKE
03:31:40 PLACE IN WATER AND WASTEWATER DEPARTMENTS.
03:31:48 IF I CAN JUST RECAP.
03:31:52 SO YOU SEE THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS.
03:31:54 AGAIN, I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THE DARK BLUE OR DARK PURPLE
03:31:58 AND THE GREEN PIE CHARTS ARE COMPULSORY.
03:32:03 WE HAVE NO OTHER WAY OF PROCEEDING AS A BUSINESS ENTITY, NOR
03:32:07 PROCEEDING WITH THE WASTE -- PAYING FOR THE WASTE TO ENERGY
03:32:10 FACILITY WITHOUT ASSOCIATED RATE INCREASE AND DEBT SERVICE
03:32:15 FOR THE WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY.
03:32:17 ITEM NUMBER 87.
03:32:20 THE BLUE, THE SOLID WASTE RELOCATION COMPLEX, AND THE LIGHT
03:32:26 PURPLE, 33% OF THE OTHER CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, CAN
03:32:32 BE DISCUSSED.
03:32:41 AND I WILL TAKE QUESTIONS NOW.
03:32:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHY DIDN'T WE DO THIS WITH THE
03:32:48 STORMWATER ASSESSMENT IN 2016?
03:32:50 THIS IS ON UTILITY BILLS.
03:32:52 >>DENNIS ROGERO: WHY DIDN'T WE --
03:32:55 >>> IN 2016 WITH THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT ON STORMWATER WHY
03:32:58 DIDN'T WE DO IT ON PROPERTY TAXES AND NOT DO IN THE THIS
03:33:02 FASHION WHERE PEOPLE SAW A UTILITY INCREASE EVERY MONTH?
03:33:05 IT WAS NOT PROFITABLE FOR STORMWATER --
03:33:08 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES INAPPLICABLE.
03:33:10 IN TERMS OF HOW CUSTOMERS ARE BILLED.
03:33:12 YOU KNOW, SOLID WASTE IS A UTILITY, AND OUR PERSON IS
03:33:16 GETTING UTILITIES -- YOU SHOULDN'T SAY TRADITIONALLY BEING
03:33:21 DEFINED AS WATER, SEWER, GARBAGE, ET CETERA, AS OPPOSED TO A
03:33:25 STORMWATER ASSESSMENT.
03:33:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
03:33:28 I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
03:33:29 I KNOW ONE IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
03:33:31 THE OTHER IS DIFFERENT KIND OF PROJECT.
03:33:35 BUT, YOU KNOW --
03:33:36 >>DENNIS ROGERO: I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU BUT FOR THE
03:33:39 FUTURE, IF WE CAN REPRESENT IN ALMOST ANY FORM WE LIKE, SO
03:33:44 IF FOR INSTANCE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE IT ON THE UTILITIES IN
03:33:48 THE FUTURE, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT TO ILLUSTRATE.
03:33:51 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU SHOWED IN THE LAST SLIDES 10%
03:33:53 DECREASE OVERALL, WHAT PEOPLE WOULD SEE MONTHLY.
03:33:58 HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE OVERALL PROJECT?
03:34:01 >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF COUNCIL CHOSE TO DEFER THE CAPITAL
03:34:05 IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, THE PURPLE, IF I CAN HAVE THE
03:34:11 PRESENTATION.
03:34:14 THERE YOU GO.
03:34:19 AGAIN, IT'S NOT OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DEFER ANYTHING OR
03:34:22 REDUCE ANYTHING.
03:34:24 BUT IF COUNCIL CHOSE TO DEFER THOSE PROJECTS, THEN OF COURSE
03:34:28 THE DEPARTMENT WILL UNDERTAKE THOSE PROJECTS AT A LATER
03:34:31 DATE, WASHINGTON CAN SPEAK TO THE RAMIFICATIONS OF SOME OF
03:34:36 THOSE DELAYS.
03:34:37 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT IN LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE
03:34:40 PROJECTS, DELAYING THEM IS JUST GOING TO MAKE IT MORE
03:34:42 EXPENSIVE.
03:34:44 >>DENNIS ROGERO: DELAYING ANYTHING.
03:34:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY
03:34:47 IMPROVEMENT IS NOT RETAINING THE BUILDING, THERE'S
03:34:50 SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, HAVING TOURED THE
03:34:54 FACILITIES, SEEING WHAT NEEDS TO BE NOT PATCHED BUT FIXED
03:34:58 AND REPLACED, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THE BEST WAY TO GO IS NOT
03:35:04 DELAY IT OR DEFER ANYTHING.
03:35:07 ANYWAYS, COUNCILMEMBER CLENDENIN.
03:35:09 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A COUPLE OF THINGS.
03:35:12 I AM GOING TO DECLARE THAT FUSCIA.
03:35:17 BONE UP ON MY COLOR SYNONYMS.
03:35:21 SECONDLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A BUSINESS ARGUMENT TO BE
03:35:28 MADE FOR NOT GRANTING YOUR PROJECTS AS EXPRESSED.
03:35:35 MY CONCERN, WHAT I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE LAST TIME WE
03:35:38 PRESENTED, WAS THE RATE INCREASE THAT IF YOU STRETCH IT OUT,
03:35:43 NOT NECESSARILY REDUCE IT BY 10% BUT STRETCH IT OUT BY A
03:35:46 COUPLE OF MORE YEARS, ESPECIALLY SINCE A LOT OF THE SPENDING
03:35:50 IS GOING TO BE OVER A PERIOD OF TIME.
03:35:53 IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FRONT LOADED.
03:35:55 IF YOU DO AN ANALYSIS OF EXTENDING THIS INCREASE OVER A
03:36:02 PERIOD OF SEVEN YEARS OR EIGHT YEARS?
03:36:05 >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE HAVE NOT.
03:36:06 AND FOR A FEW DIFFERENT REASONS.
03:36:09 IT WOULD COMPEL US TO GO BACK TO THE RATE CONSULTANT AND DO
03:36:13 ANOTHER RATE SCENARIO WHICH WILL TAKE TIME BUT CAN BE DONE.
03:36:17 BUT PHILOSOPHICALLY, IF YOU DEFER THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
03:36:21 PROJECTS, IN ESSENCE, THAT'S WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
03:36:26 THE RATE INCREASES ASSOCIATED WITH THE FIRST X NUMBER OF
03:36:29 YEARS WILL BE LOWER, BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE --
03:36:34 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEN YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO US.
03:36:36 I'M JUST TRYING TO GET ONE BYTE OF THE APPLE TO BE ABLE TO
03:36:40 APALACHICOLA THE SAME THING.
03:36:42 SO HAVING TO GO BACK TO -- WHAT IS THE TIME FRAME OF HAVING
03:36:46 TO GO BACK AND DOING AN ANALYSIS OF SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS
03:36:50 VERSUS FOUR OR FIVE?
03:36:53 >>DENNIS ROGERO: MURRAY, ARE YOU ON?
03:36:55 THIS IS OUR RATE CONSULTANT WITH RAFT TELLIS, AND I'M
03:37:01 CATCHING A COLD IF YOU ARE THERE, BUT IF YOU ARE THERE, DO
03:37:03 YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF HOW LONG IT WILL TAKE TO DO WHAT THE
03:37:07 COUNCILMAN JUST ASKED?
03:37:08 >> MY NAME IS MURRAY HAMILTON, THE VICE PRESIDENT, WE
03:37:15 SERVICE THE CITY'S UTILITY RATE CONSULTANT.
03:37:18 YOU KNOW, TO FORMALLY DO AN UPDATE -- AND OBVIOUSLY REDO
03:37:24 HAVE INFORMATION WITH CITY STAFF, WE CERTAINLY NEED AT LEAST
03:37:27 A 30-DAY PERIOD TO RETURN BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL, I'M
03:37:32 SURE.
03:37:33 IN SOME RESPECTS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AT LEAST QUANTIFIED
03:37:40 SOME -- TO OCCUR, IN ORDER TO PHASE IN THE RATE ADJUSTMENTS
03:37:45 BEYOND THE FIRST.
03:37:49 THAT'S WHAT YOUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER JUST PRESENTED
03:37:51 HERE.
03:37:52 YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL CONSTRUCTION OF THE RATE PLAN WAS
03:37:59 DAYS OF CASHING, DEBT SERVICE COVERAGE OUTCOMES, AND IN A
03:38:03 POSITIVE CASH FLOW, A BALANCED BUDGET, IF YOU WOULD, ARE
03:38:08 ESSENTIAL IN ORDER TO ISSUE THE FUTURE DEBT.
03:38:12 STARTING WITH THE CREDIT LINE, SUBSEQUENTLY FINANCING
03:38:17 THROUGH BONDS.
03:38:18 SO THERE'S REALLY NOT A -- THAT ALLOWS FOR MOVING FORWARD
03:38:27 WITH A RATE INCREASE THAT'S ALREADY PRESENTED IN FUNDING
03:38:30 THOSE CAPITAL NEEDS.
03:38:32 SO I THINK WHAT I HEARD FROM YOUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER IS
03:38:35 TO THE EXTENT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD
03:38:40 WITH THE CURRENT RATE PLAN, THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE IS DELAYING
03:38:47 THE PROJECTS.
03:38:48 I THINK WHAT'S INDICATED IS FOUR TIER FINANCING THAT I SAW
03:38:51 FROM THE PRESENTATION DOCUMENT, ROUGHLY 33 CENTS PER MONTH
03:38:55 PER AVERAGE BILL, WHICH I THINK REPRESENTS THAT 10%
03:39:00 ADJUSTMENT.
03:39:00 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE WANTED TO -- IF WE
03:39:05 NEEDED TO GET EVERYTHING WE WANTED IN THIS PLAN, THERE IS NO
03:39:09 OPTION BEYOND, OR AT LEAST AN OPTION BEYOND DOING THE
03:39:17 STAGGERED APPROACH BETWEEN 29, IS THAT WHAT I AM HEARING?
03:39:23 >> YES, COMMISSIONER.
03:39:24 AND TO TAKE IT A STEP FURTHER, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT IN
03:39:28 COMBINATION WITH STAFF, CITY STAFF, FINANCIAL ADVISER, WHICH
03:39:34 IS BRAGG, THEY HAVE ALREADY PUT IN PLACE A PRELIMINARY
03:39:39 FINANCING STRATEGY THAT WAS MEANT TO HELP PHASE IN THESE
03:39:43 RATES.
03:39:44 FOR EXAMPLE, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A LOWER COST CREDIT LINE
03:39:50 APPROACH THAT PROVIDES THE CITY A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY
03:39:53 EARLY IN THIS FINANCING PERIOD BEFORE ISSUING PERMANENT
03:39:57 BONDS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
03:39:59 AND SO I WOULD SUGGEST TO THIS CITY COUNCIL HERE THAT AN
03:40:05 APPROACH HAS BEEN TAKEN TO HELP STRETCH OUT THOSE RATE
03:40:09 ADJUSTMENTS.
03:40:13 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND CLEARLY I AM NOT IN THIS BUSINESS SO
03:40:15 I HAVE TO RELY ON THE EXPERT WITNESSES, YOU KNOW, TO TELL 44
03:40:18 THAT THIS IS THE FINANCIAL PRUDENT WAY TO GO AS FAR AS
03:40:22 FINANCING, AND TO BE ABLE TO GET THESE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT
03:40:25 PROJECTS ALONG.
03:40:26 SO I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT AND I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE
03:40:28 TODAY.
03:40:29 THANK YOU.
03:40:30 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MURRAY.
03:40:36 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANKS VERY MUCH.
03:40:38 WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE BANK, AND WE ARE PAYING ONLY
03:40:42 PRINCIPLE FOR 24, 25 AND 26?
03:40:47 AND THEN YOU ARE PAYING $4,015,667 FOR '27-28, AND THEN I
03:40:54 GUESS YOU BUY THE NOTE OUT FOR '29 OR $120,500,000?
03:41:01 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
03:41:02 I BELIEVE YOU ARE REFERENCING --
03:41:05 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU WANT TO REFINANCE IT AGAIN, SO NOW
03:41:07 WE ARE PAYING 286,850, THERE'S A REFINANCING AGAIN THROUGH,
03:41:11 I GUESS, HYDE PARK OR OTHER BONDING AGENCY. WHAT'S THAT
03:41:17 GOING TO BE IN ADDITION TO 286,850?
03:41:20 THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
03:41:21 NUMBER TWO, ON PAGE 29, WE TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE INDIVIDUAL
03:41:26 FOR THE 50 AMI OR 65 YEARS OF AGE AND OLDER.
03:41:32 SO IF I DO THE CALCULATION RIGHT, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE, WHAT
03:41:35 IT IS, IS TYPICALLY AN INCREASE AND WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE,
03:41:38 THAT 10% REDUCTION WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ON THE 50% AMI
03:41:42 AND THE 65 YEARS OF AGE AND OLDER?
03:41:46 >>DENNIS ROGERO: NO, NO, AND I WILL BREAK IT DOWN INTO TWO
03:41:50 COMPONENTS.
03:41:50 FIRST I WANT TO REITERATE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE DISINFLATION,
03:41:55 DEFLATION, IT'S FAIRLY THE SAME BUT THEY ARE NOT.
03:41:58 IT'S A 10 PERCENT DECREASE ON THE INCREASE.
03:42:01 THE INCREASE IS SIMPLY LESS.
03:42:02 BUT THE LOW INCOME AND THE 65 AGE OR OLDER WILL BE WHAT THEY
03:42:09 WILL BE BASED ON --
03:42:11 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE IS 48 CENTS LESS AND THE OTHER ONE
03:42:13 IS $2 LESS.
03:42:18 SO IF I AM TRYING TO PAY IT OFF, I AM NOT GOING TO PAY IT
03:42:22 OFF THAT WAY.
03:42:23 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU ARE CORRECT, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO PAY
03:42:25 IT OFF THAT WAY.
03:42:29 AND IF I CAN.
03:42:40 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BY THE WAY, 4.5% IS A VERY GOOD INTEREST
03:42:43 RATE BECAUSE MANY BANKS ARE GIVING SIX MONTHS CDS FOR 5.25
03:42:46 RIGHT NOW --
03:42:49 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
03:42:50 IF I COULD GO BACK TO THE ELMO, IN THE BACK.
03:42:57 AND THIS WILL BE A SEGUE INTO ANSWERING ANOTHER QUESTION.
03:43:02 AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT I SHOWED BEFORE, THE FEDERAL FUNDS RATE
03:43:04 HISTORY.
03:43:06 AND IT MAY BE MORE THAN ANYBODY WANTS TO KNOW.
03:43:08 BUT WHAT WE ARE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS VOLATILITY.
03:43:13 THE QUESTION WAS ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING, HEY, WHY DO A
03:43:18 30-YEAR BOND WHEN PERHAPS YOU CAN SIMPLY CONTINUE TO DO
03:43:21 THOSE SHORT DEBT ISSUES FOR THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS, AND
03:43:26 THEN SIMPLY REISSUE, REISSUE, AND REISSUE.
03:43:30 AND YOU SEE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY HERE.
03:43:34 DEPENDING UPON WHEN YOU HAVE TAKEN OUT THAT SHORT-TERM
03:43:37 ISSUES, WHEN YOU GO TO REISSUE IT, YOU ARE EITHER A SUPER
03:43:42 GENIUS OR MAYBE FIND ANOTHER LINE OF WORK, BECAUSE THERE'S
03:43:47 VOLATILITY.
03:43:48 YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT INTEREST RATE IS GOING TO BE, IF
03:43:53 YOU CAN'T PAY IT OFF IN CASH, AND YOU CAN'T, YOU DON'T KNOW
03:43:57 WHAT THAT VOLATILITY IS GOING TO BE WHEN YOU HAVE TO REISSUE
03:44:01 THAT DEBT.
03:44:01 SO THE TRIED AND TRUE WAY OF FINANCING LARGE CAPITAL
03:44:05 PROJECTS IS WITH A 30-YEAR BOND, WITH A COMPONENT IN THE
03:44:10 BOND COVENANT THAT ALLOWS TO YOU TAKE ADVANTAGE OF POSITIVE
03:44:14 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS.
03:44:17 A REFINANCE.
03:44:18 SOME OF US REFINANCED OUR HOUSE, YOU KNOW, OR REFINANCED OUR
03:44:22 MORTGAGE.
03:44:22 WE HAVE A HISTORY -- AND I CREDIT MY TEAM INCLUDING THE
03:44:27 FINANCIAL ADVISORS -- WITH TAKING ADVANTAGE OF POSITIVE
03:44:30 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENTS BY REFINANCING AND SAVING MONEY.
03:44:38 BUT IF YOU RELY, IF YOU ARE BETTING AGAINST OR FOR THE
03:44:42 VOLATILITY, YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT HISTORY, IT'S ANYBODY'S
03:44:46 GUESS.
03:44:46 SO THE REASON I BRING THAT UP, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, IS AGAIN
03:44:53 THE PLAN IS TO FINANCE THE WASTE TO ENERGY FACILITY FOR A
03:44:58 RELATIVELY SHORT TIME, AND THEN WHAT WOULD LEAD TO THAT
03:45:01 LONG-TERM BEST PRACTICE DEBT FINANCING.
03:45:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
03:45:12 >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST YOU WANT TO THANK DENNIS AND ALL YOUR
03:45:17 STAFF, THE PRESENTATIONS WE WERE GETTING OUT OF CFO'S OFFICE
03:45:23 AND WASTE MANAGEMENT ARE FANTASTIC, VERY DETAILED.
03:45:26 YOU GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, AND TO LOOK AT
03:45:30 OPTIONS AND THINGS.
03:45:31 AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
03:45:32 HOPEFULLY THE PUBLIC APPRECIATES ALL THIS TRANSPARENCY.
03:45:36 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
03:45:37 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU GO TO PAGE 9 ON YOUR SLIDE, PLEASE?
03:45:40 WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUES SPEAK, THERE WAS ONE
03:45:44 MESSAGE THAT CAME UP.
03:45:46 SO WHEN WE ARE TALKING TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHY WE NEED THIS,
03:45:49 IF YOU LOOK FROM 2014 TO 2023, THERE WAS NO RATE INCREASE,
03:45:57 AND MY COLLEAGUE SAID THINGS LIKE IF WE HAD JUST INCREASED
03:46:00 50 CENTS A YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
03:46:02 SO THAT'S THE BOOM ECONOMIC TIME.
03:46:04 SO THAT IS THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE WERE MAKING MORE MONEY AND
03:46:09 IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HE EASIER TO PUSH THIS THROUGH.
03:46:11 NOW WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE FOLKS ARE MORE CONCERNED
03:46:15 ABOUT THE COSTS AND WORRIED ABOUT RECESSION AND THINGS, BUT
03:46:20 I THINK THE CONE CENSUS LAST TIME FROM MY COLLEAGUES WAS HAD
03:46:24 SOMEBODY INCREASED IT TEN YEARS AGO, ON A GRADUAL BASIS WE
03:46:28 WOULDN'T BE IN THIS POSITION.
03:46:29 SO WE HAVE TWO THINGS.
03:46:30 ONE IS HOW DO WE DEAL WITH GROWTH GOING FORWARD, AND YOU PUT
03:46:35 A CPI, INFLATION INDICATOR IN THERE WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD
03:46:42 IDEA.
03:46:42 WE HAVE TO PLAY CATCH-UP AND THAT'S THE MART THAT COUNCILMAN
03:46:45 CLENDENIN WAS TALKING ABOUT.
03:46:46 WE HAVE TO PLAY CATCH-UP.
03:46:48 THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HURT PEOPLE FINANCIALLY.
03:46:50 FOR US IT'S A FEW DOLLARS, FOR SOME PEOPLE IT'S WHETHER THEY
03:46:52 CAN BUY THEIR MEDICINE OR NOT.
03:46:54 WE HEARD A LADY THIS MORNING SPEAK ABOUT HOW SHE HAD TO CUT
03:46:59 BACK ON THINGS, AND I THINK SHE MISSED GETTING PART OF HER
03:47:02 DIALYSIS TO COME HERE.
03:47:04 THESE SMALL DOLLARS COULD MEAN A LOT TO FOLKS.
03:47:08 SO THE WAY I LOOK AT THREE THINGS, ONE IS THE LACK OF AN
03:47:11 INCREASE OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
03:47:14 THE SECOND IS WAS FOUR YEARS AGO THE CITY TOOK OVER THE
03:47:18 WASTE TO ENERGY PLANT WHICH HAD BEEN RUN BY A PRIVATE
03:47:21 DEVELOPER, AND IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN
03:47:24 ONGOING PROJECT YOU DON'T INVEST A LOT FOR THE FUTURE SO
03:47:27 IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE WE WOULD HAVE TO GO AND INVEST.
03:47:30 THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH IT WE FINAL GOT THE NUMBER FROM WHEN
03:47:33 YOU ALL LOOKED AT IT, WHEN PUBLIC WORKS LOOKED AT IT, THE
03:47:38 NUMBER TO INNOVATE WAS A LOT SMALLER THAN IT IS NOW.
03:47:41 AND NOT NECESSARILY ANYBODY'S FAULT BUT JUST WANT TO MAKE
03:47:46 SURE THOSE NUMBERS DON'T CONTINUE TO GROW BUT AS THE NUMBERS
03:47:48 GROW, WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT WHAT WE NEED VERSUS WHAT'S
03:47:52 NICE TO HAVE, AND WE NEED TO DO THAT ACROSS THE BOARD IN THE
03:47:56 CITY.
03:47:56 AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT YOU ARE DOING SOME
03:47:58 CONSOLIDATION, BECAUSE IT WILL BE MORE EFFICIENT.
03:48:03 SO ANYWAY THAT'S THE BACK DROP.
03:48:05 I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
03:48:07 ONE, YOU PRESENTED A FEW MONTHS AGO OUR BOND CAPACITY ON THE
03:48:10 GENERAL FUND AND ON THE ENTERPRISE SIDE, AND WE ARE ABOUT
03:48:14 41% ON EACH.
03:48:16 WAS THIS 120 MILLION A DAY INCLUDED IN THE 41%?
03:48:22 >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT WAS NOT.
03:48:23 >>BILL CARLSON: SO WHAT PERCENTAGE DOES THAT TAKE US UP TO
03:48:27 WHEN WE INCLUDE THIS NEW DEBT, WHAT MERGE ARE WE AT?
03:48:31 AND THE SECOND THING IS, I UNDERSTAND TALKING TO A COLLEAGUE
03:48:34 YESTERDAY, THE SPRUCE STREET OPERATION, WHICH IS PART OF THE
03:48:38 COST WE ARE RELOCATING THAT AND SOME BROWNFIELD ISSUES
03:48:43 THERE, BUT THAT LAND IS VALUABLE, IT WAS PAID BY, AS I
03:48:47 UNDERSTAND, GENERAL FUNDS IN THE PAST, AND IT'S CONSIDERED A
03:48:50 GENERAL FUND ASSET.
03:48:52 ONE OF THE OBJECTIONS I HAVE TO THIS IS THAT I THINK A
03:48:55 REASON WHY AN EXPECTATION OF THE PUBLIC WOULD BE -- I DON'T
03:48:58 KNOW WHAT THE COST OF THAT, WHAT WE COULD SELL IT FOR, BUT
03:49:01 LET'S SAY 20 MILLION.
03:49:03 20 MILLION WOULD LOP OFF ONE SIXTH OR WHATEVER OF THE DEBT.
03:49:07 IT WOULD ALSO POTENTIALLY REDUCE THE AMOUNT THE BURDEN OF
03:49:11 THE CATCH-UP.
03:49:12 BUT IF THAT MONEY IS ONLY GOING TO GENERAL FUND, IT WILL BE
03:49:16 USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE, HOPEFULLY NOT FRIVOLOUS, BUT I
03:49:19 WOULD BE OKAY WITH THIS IF WE PUT IN SOME WAY TO GUARANTEE
03:49:23 THAT THAT MONEY, THAT PROPERTY BE SOLD AT MARKET VALUE AND
03:49:26 THAT MONEY WOULD BE PUT INTO EITHER REDUCE THE DEBT AND/OR
03:49:30 REDUCE THE PAYMENTS.
03:49:31 >>DENNIS ROGERO: AND THANK YOU, SIR.
03:49:37 I APPRECIATE YOUR OBSERVATIONS.
03:49:38 YESTERDAY DURING THE BRIEFING, AGAIN MR. MURRAY EXPLAINED,
03:49:43 THE DEBT CAPACITY.
03:49:45 WE'LL CALCULATE THAT FOR YOU AND OF COURSE I AM SURE YOU
03:49:47 HAVE DRAWN THIS CONCLUSION.
03:49:50 SOLID DEBT HAS NO DEBT CAPACITY.
03:49:53 IN THE ABSENCE OF A RATE INCREASE THEY ARE USING THEIR
03:49:56 SAVINGS.
03:49:57 >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT'S THE POSSIBILITY OF ATTACHING THE
03:49:59 SPRUCE STREET FUNDS TO THIS SO THAT WE CAN REDUCE EITHER THE
03:50:05 DEBT OR THE -- YOU MIGHT SAY THAT THE BOND MARKET WOULD WANT
03:50:09 US TO REDUCE THE PRICES IF WE ARE GOING TO BUILD THEM IN.
03:50:12 I DON'T KNOW WHY WE COULDN'T JUST PROMISE THEM THAT IN THE
03:50:14 BEGINNING SAND SAY WE'LL OFFSET IT IF THAT COMES ABOUT,
03:50:18 WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS, BUT AT LEAST WE COULD REDUCE THE
03:50:21 DEBT BECAUSE I AM VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ADDITION OF THE
03:50:23 DEBT.
03:50:23 I BET THIS PUTS US OVER 50% AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING
03:50:27 ANYTHING WE HAVE ADD IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
03:50:31 >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT COULD, AND I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEONE IN
03:50:35 LEGAL KNOWS THE ANSWER OR OUR FINANCIAL ADVISER.
03:50:37 WHEN THE TIME COMES, AND THE DECISION IS MADE, OR IF THE
03:50:41 DECISION IS MADE TO SELL THAT PROPERTY AND WE GET AS YOU SAY
03:50:44 AT LEAST $20 MILLION AS AN EXAMPLE, THE BEST OF MY
03:50:47 KNOWLEDGE, IT WILL BE UP TO THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL AT
03:50:50 THAT TIME TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THAT FUNDING.
03:50:54 I DON'T KNOW OFFHAND IF WE COULD ISOLATE IT SPECIFICALLY FOR
03:50:59 AN ENTERPRISE FUND.
03:51:02 I SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.
03:51:04 I DON'T KNOW IF --
03:51:06 >>BILL CARLSON: I BET WE COULD, BUT IT DEPENDS OWN WHETHER
03:51:08 WE HAVE THE WILL TO DO IT. IF THAT'S INCLUDED TO OFFSET THE
03:51:12 DEBT OR THE COST, AND IT WOULD BE SOLD AT MARKET VALUE, THEN
03:51:16 I'M OKAY WITH ALL OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS
03:51:19 SOME REFUSE BUT THE PUBLIC -- THAT LAND IS BEING USED FOR
03:51:22 SOLID WASTE NOW, AND WE ARE GOING TO SELL IT, SPEND IT ON
03:51:26 SOMETHING ELSE.
03:51:27 AND I HAVE A CONCERN.
03:51:28 I THINK THE RATE PAYERS HAVE A REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT
03:51:33 WE ARE GOING TO USE FACILITIES THAT ARE UNDER WASTE SERVICES
03:51:38 TO OFFSET OTHER COSTS.
03:51:40 THANK YOU.
03:51:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. MIRANDA.
03:51:42 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU.
03:51:43 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SORRY, SIR.
03:51:46 HURTAK.
03:51:46 >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST TURNED OFF MY MICROPHONE.
03:51:50 I'M SORRY.
03:51:55 THANK YOU FOR THIS.
03:51:55 I HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION THAT REALLY GOES TO DEBT RATIO.
03:52:01 AND WHAT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT, TECHNICALLY THIS IS AN
03:52:08 ENTERPRISE FUND.
03:52:09 SO IT IS NOT REALLY PART OF THE CITY'S DEBT, IT IS AN
03:52:15 ENTERPRISE DEBT.
03:52:16 AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY?
03:52:20 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU ARE CORRECT.
03:52:21 IN FACT IT'S A LITTLE MORE GRANULAR THAN THAT IN THAT EACH
03:52:27 ENTERPRISE UNIT IS VIEWED INDEPENDENTLY OF WHAT THEY CAN PAY
03:52:30 FOR.
03:52:31 WE HABITUALLY LUMPED THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY ARE
03:52:35 BUSINESSES OR ENTERPRISE BUT THEY ARE EACH ENTITIES, BASED
03:52:40 ON THEIR CAPACITY, WHAT THEY CAN PAY FOR, WHAT THEY CAN'T
03:52:43 PAY FOR, ET CETERA.
03:52:45 BUT WE WILL PROVIDE THE TOTAL --
03:52:49 >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE TO ME IT'S A
03:52:51 COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING. IF IT'S 41% AS OUR DEBT RATIO
03:52:54 FOR THE CITY, THAT TO ME IS CITY GENERAL FUND NOT INCLUDING
03:52:58 ENTERPRISE FUNDS.
03:53:00 ENTERPRISE FUNDS I LOOK AT IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT MANNER
03:53:03 BECAUSE THAT -- I AM GOING TO POINT TO MR. WASHINGTON, BUT
03:53:07 HIS DEBT, THAT'S NOT YOUR DEBT.
03:53:09 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
03:53:11 AM I LOOKING AT IT CORRECTLY, IT'S A PRETTY SOLID WALL
03:53:14 BETWEEN THAT DEBT.
03:53:15 AND HOWEVER, IF SOLID WASTE CAN'T MAKE THAT PAYMENT, THEN IT
03:53:22 WOULD LAND ON THE CITY TO PAY IT.
03:53:26 >>DENNIS ROGERO: YOU ARE READING MY MIND, MA'AM, AND AGAIN
03:53:29 I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO WONKISH, BUT OUR PLAN IS UNTIL WE
03:53:34 ISSUE THAT 30-YEAR BOND, WE WON'T BE PLEDGING DIRECTOR
03:53:38 WASHINGTON'S REVENUES TO PAY THE DEBT.
03:53:39 WE ARE GOING TO USE THE REVENUES BUT WE WILL BE PLEDGING THE
03:53:43 FULL FAITH AND COMMITMENT OF THE CITY ABSENT RAISING
03:53:46 PROPERTY TAXES.
03:53:48 SO WITH THE COSIGNER, IF YOU WILL, THE GENERAL FUND IS THE
03:53:54 COSIGNER.
03:53:55 AND THE REASON IT IS RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T WANT TO USE THE
03:54:00 SOLID WASTE REVENUES AS A PLEDGE, BECAUSE THEIR RATING WILL
03:54:03 BE LOWER BASED ON THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATION RIGHT NOW.
03:54:08 IF ALL GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN, AND THE RATE INCREASES ARE
03:54:11 PUT INTO PLACE, BY THE TIME WE ISSUE THAT BOND, IT WILL BE A
03:54:15 VERY, VERY STRONG CREDIT, SO IT'S PROBABLY MORE THAN YOU
03:54:18 WANTED TO KNOW, BUT, YEAH, THE GENERAL FUND IS THE COSIGNER
03:54:22 RIGHT NOW.
03:54:23 >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD WAY FOR
03:54:27 PEOPLE TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF DEBT
03:54:30 THAT WE ARE GOING INTO, THIS TO ME IS JUST A DIFFERENT TYPE
03:54:33 OF DEBT.
03:54:34 THIS IS WORKING ON AN ENTERPRISE FUND SOLELY FOCUSED ON
03:54:39 SOLID WASTE.
03:54:44 I THINK THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
03:54:48 THANK YOU.
03:54:48 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HENDERSON, MIRANDA.
03:54:51 >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
03:54:55 COUNCILMAN CARLSON KIND OF PIQUED MY EARS UP WHEN WE TALKED
03:54:59 ABOUT THE PROPERTY OVER IN CARVER CITY.
03:55:02 HAS THAT BEEN A PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN TERMS OF THIS
03:55:07 PARTICULAR PROPOSAL AND FUNDING SOURCE THE SALE OF THIS
03:55:14 LAND?
03:55:14 >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT HAS NOT.
03:55:16 AND I AM NO REAL ESTATE EXPERT BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE
03:55:20 DON'T KNOW IN TERMS OF WHAT THE BROWNFIELD REQUIREMENT WILL
03:55:23 BE IN TERMS OF WHAT PARTIES WILL BE INTERESTED IN BUYING IT,
03:55:28 AND THEN OF COURSE WHAT WOULD BECOME OF THE PROCEEDS OF THE
03:55:32 SALE.
03:55:33 ABOUT THE ONLY THING WE KNOW IS THAT THE EXPERTS TELL US
03:55:37 IT'S A VERY, VERY VALUABLE PIECE OF LAND.
03:55:39 >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU ARE RIGHT, IT'S AN EXTREMELY VALUABLE
03:55:42 PIECE OF LAND, AND AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, AND SO
03:55:49 CONVERSATION, WE ARE NOT PROPOSED PREPARED TO HAVE IT TODAY.
03:55:51 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE ARE PREPARED TO HAVE IT AND IT HAD
03:55:54 NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL IN SOLID WASTE.
03:55:57 I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE TO THE PUBLIC.
03:56:00 THANK YOU.
03:56:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA.
03:56:04 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THREE THINGS REAL QUICK.
03:56:06 WE ARE IN 2024, THE YEAR 2050 SEEMS A LONG WAY OFF, AND 26
03:56:11 YEARS AGO IN THE FUTURE, AND THE CITY OF TAMPA FROM WHAT I
03:56:14 SAW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, HOW MUCH I HAVE, THOSE ARE TALENTED
03:56:20 PEOPLE. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FACTUAL OR NOT.
03:56:25 I SAW THAT YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS HAVING LUNCH WITH TWO
03:56:28 GENTLEMEN.
03:56:31 IF THAT'S THE TRUTH, ARE WE ANTICIPATING ANYTHING THAT'S
03:56:35 GOING TO HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND 2050, BUT TEN YEARS FROM
03:56:41 NOW, AND WHAT DO I NEED TO COVER THAT.
03:56:44 AND SECONDLY, ARE WE LOOKING AT ALL THE CHARGES THAT WE ARE
03:56:49 GOING TO HAVE ON THESE RATE INCREASES?
03:56:53 THEY SAY SUBSIDIES THAT TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES?
03:56:56 SO ARE YOU LOOKING AT EXPENSES REGARDING SALARY, INSURANCE,
03:57:01 THINGS OF THAT NATURE, GROWING UP EVERY YEAR?
03:57:04 I KNOW THE INSURANCE RATE IS SKY HIGH AND COULD BE HIGHER,
03:57:08 BUT WE HAVE TAKEN OUR OWN RISK BY STARTING OUR OWN CLINICS
03:57:11 AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
03:57:13 THIRDLY, WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY IN
03:57:16 A VERY POPULAR IN THE CITY BETWEEN DALE MABRY AND SPRUCE AND
03:57:21 SO FORTH AND LOIS, ALL THAT AREA THERE, LET'S SAY $20
03:57:28 MILLION, BUT YOU ALSO ARE GOING TO HAVE FROM THE FUTURE OF
03:57:33 THAT A LOT OF REVENUE AND AD VALOREM TAX THAT WE ARE NOT
03:57:38 COUNTING ON.
03:57:39 YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE OF WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.
03:57:42 THERE'S A LOT OF COSTS IN DOING THOSE THINGS ALSO.
03:57:45 I KNOW THIS IS -- ARE WE THINKING OUT 2050, 2040, WHATEVER,
03:57:53 AS TO WHAT WE THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND BE PREPARED?
03:57:58 OTHERWISE IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
03:58:00 >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION AND WE ARE.
03:58:02 AND THAT IS -- THOSE ARE THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT HAVE LED US
03:58:06 TO TODAY AS PART OF THE RATE STUDY, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY
03:58:10 ASSOCIATED WITH THE RATE STUDY.
03:58:12 AGAIN IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE TEAM UP WITH A CONSULTANT
03:58:18 WHO IS OUR FINANCIAL ADVISER.
03:58:21 I HAVE A GREAT TEAM, BUT TELLIS SPECIALIZES IN THIS
03:58:25 LONG-TERM VIEW, AND TO SUM IT UP, EVERY X FACTOR WE CAN
03:58:32 POSSIBLY COUNT --
03:58:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THINKING LONG-TERM.
03:58:37 >>DENNIS ROGERO: I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
03:58:40 YES, TO THE BEST OF EVERYBODY'S ABILITY.
03:58:44 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
03:58:45 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO FOR THE PUBLIC THAT'S WATCHING AND THE
03:58:50 NEWS REPORTERS THAT ARE WATCHING, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY ARE,
03:58:53 YOU LOOK AT THIS SCREEN, AND THIS COUNCIL IS BASICALLY BEING
03:58:56 HANDED A BAG OF CRUD FROM OVER TEN YEARS OF NOT RAISING
03:59:02 RATES, AND SHAME ON THAT, THAT NOW WE ARE FACED WITH THE
03:59:11 DECISION AS A COUNCIL TO IMPOSE WHAT IS REALLY A HORRIBLE
03:59:18 RATE INCREASE OVER A RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME ON THE
03:59:22 INDIVIDUAL CITY OF TAMPA, BECAUSE AGAIN, COUNCILMAN CARLSON
03:59:27 SAID YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THIS, AND APRIL 1st OF 2012,
03:59:30 THERE'S A NEGLIGIBLE INCREASE FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS
03:59:33 AND THEN NOTHING NOR ALL THOSE OTHER YEARS.
03:59:36 I KNOW WE HAD ECONOMIC CYCLES AND A PANDEMIC BUT WE KNOW THE
03:59:41 COST OF EVERYTHING HAS GONE UP SKY HIGH OVER THE YEARS.
03:59:44 I THINK COUNCILMAN CARLSON ASKED ABOUT OTHER NEEDS.
03:59:47 WE ARE REALLY EVEN WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW WITH THE WASTE
03:59:51 ENERGY PLANT IS PUTTING THAT TOGETHER WHEN IT'S NOT A
03:59:53 COMPLETE REPLACEMENT AND THEN AS THE CITY GROWS IN 20 YEARS
03:59:57 FROM NOW IT WON'T BE YOU AND I, CHARLIE.
04:00:00 20 YEARS FROM NOW SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO BE SITTING HERE
04:00:03 FACED WITH THE DECISION TO BUILD AND INVEST A BILLION
04:00:06 DOLLARS IN NEW WASTE ENERGY PLANT AND RIGHTFULLY SO, MR.
04:00:12 WASHINGTON AND HIS CREW ARE TAKE POSITIVE STEPS TO PREPARE
04:00:16 FOR THAT INEVITABILITY THROUGH LAND ACQUISITION AND OTHER
04:00:20 THINGS TODAY SO PEOPLE MAYBE WON'T BE HOLDING THE SAME BAG
04:00:24 OF WHATEVER 20 YEARS FROM NOW.
04:00:26 BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE GREATER NEEDS AS THE CITY GROWS,
04:00:29 AND THE INFRASTRUCTURES AGE.
04:00:32 SO THIS ISN'T THE ANSWER THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE US THROUGH
04:00:34 THE NEXT NUMBER OF YEARS, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE MORE TO
04:00:38 COME.
04:00:39 BUT I HATE THE FACT THAT I AM SITTING HERE IN A SITUATION,
04:00:43 AND IT'S A NO-WIN SITUATION.
04:00:45 THE PLAN THAT OUR STAFF HAS PRESENTED IS REASONABLE AS FAR
04:00:50 AS WHAT PEOPLE EXPECT FROM THE CITY.
04:00:53 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE EXPECT THAT THEIR TRASH IS GOING TO BE
04:00:57 COLLECTED AND THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROCESS IT IN
04:01:02 A RESPONSIBLE WAY.
04:01:04 I JUST LIKE TO EXPECT WATER AND ALL THE OTHER -- EXPECT
04:01:09 THESE THINGS FROM THE CITY.
04:01:10 THESE ARE BASIC CITY SERVICES.
04:01:12 YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF WE DEAL WITH IN THE CITY
04:01:14 EVERY DAY IS A LOT OF WANTS.
04:01:18 THIS IS A NEED.
04:01:19 THIS IS BASIC WHAT THE CITY HAS TO PROVIDE.
04:01:23 YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I AM GOING TO SUPPORT THIS.
04:01:25 I HATE IT.
04:01:27 I WISH THAT OVER THE LAST DECADE-PLUS THAT WE HAD HAD
04:01:34 REASONABLE INCREASES SO WE WEREN'T FACED WITH THE DECISION
04:01:37 WE ARE GOING TO BE FACED WITH TODAY, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS,
04:01:40 AND WE WERE ELECTED TO MAKE THESE TOUGH DECISIONS, AND I AM
04:01:44 GOING TO POINT FINGERS BACKWARDS AND SAY, THIS IS WHY WE ARE
04:01:47 HERE.
04:01:48 IT'S NOT TODAY.
04:01:49 THIS IS WHY WE ARE HERE.
04:01:52 AND NOW WE ARE HAVING TO PAY FOR IT.
04:01:53 >>DENNIS ROGERO: AND IF I COULD SPEAK TO THAT, CHAIR.
04:02:08 I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS, AND WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO
04:02:11 CHART THE BEST COURSE BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE
04:02:15 FIND OURSELVES IN.
04:02:16 BUT ALSO LEARNING FROM THAT AS COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID, YOU
04:02:20 KNOW, AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
04:02:22 WE ARE INDEXING THIS RATE PLAN, BUT ALLOWING 2030, WHOEVER
04:02:32 IS MAYOR THEN AND WHOEVER IS ON CITY COUNCIL, THE ABILITY TO
04:02:36 TAKE ACTION BASED ON WHERE WE FIND OURSELVES.
04:02:39 SO HOPEFULLY WE ARE IMPROVING UPON WHAT'S COME BEFORE.
04:02:42 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REALLY IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
04:02:51 BUT THERE WE GO.
04:02:53 AND THEN THE INVESTMENTS --
04:03:00 >> I'M SORRY, IF I CAN.
04:03:02 SO IN REGARDS TO THE WASTE FACILITY, THE REASON WHY WE ARE
04:03:04 PLACING THE SCREENS RIGHT NOW LIKE MILLIONS, BECAUSE THE
04:03:08 PERIODIC MAINTENANCE, SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE THAT'S SUPPOSED
04:03:10 TO TAKE PLACE, WE HAD TO PROVIDE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY RIGHT
04:03:15 NOW FOR THE RESOURCES RIGHT NOW TO SUSTAIN OUR FUTURE
04:03:18 SYSTEM.
04:03:19 SO THAT'S WHY IT'S HAPPENING.
04:03:21 SO DO WE ANTICIPATE A LARGE DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THE FUTURE?
04:03:26 NO.
04:03:26 BECAUSE ONLY OPERATE OURSELVES.
04:03:29 WE PREVIOUSLY OWNED IT, OPERATED IT OURSELVES, AND NOW WE
04:03:33 HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENSURE THAT THE SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE
04:03:35 DOES TAKE PLACE.
04:03:36 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND I THINK MY POINT WAS IF BOND GOES OUT
04:03:40 HOW MANY YEARS, 30, 31?
04:03:43 AND THE WASTE ENERGY PLANT IS NOT GOING TO LAST 31 YEARS.
04:03:46 >> IT WILL.
04:03:51 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REALLY?
04:03:53 >> SO WE CAN MAKE SURE IT DOES LAST US.
04:03:56 >> AND MOVIE AND BUILD A NEW ONE ACROSS THE STREET?
04:04:01 >> SO THIS TIES INTO WHAT COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WAS SAYING
04:04:07 ABOUT BEING ABLE TO MANAGE THE WASTE IN THE FUTURE SINCE WE
04:04:10 HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE COMING INTO THE CITY.
04:04:12 SO BUYING THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS ROUGHLY SIX ACRES, IS ALL
04:04:18 WE CAN BUILD OWN RIGHT NOW, SO NOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO
04:04:21 SET UP DIFFERENT PROVISIONS TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN TAKE IN
04:04:24 ALL THAT WASTE, SO WHETHER IT'S A MIXED WASTE FACILITY,
04:04:28 WASTE ON THE FOREFRONT BEFORE IT GOES OVER TO THE WASTE
04:04:33 ENERGY FACILITY, OR WE HAVE A FACILITY WHERE A RECYCLING
04:04:39 FACILITY SO WE WILL HAVE ALL THAT WASTE ON THE FOREFRONT TO
04:04:42 TAKE OUT SOME OF THE WASTE AND GOING TO THE WASTE ENERGY
04:04:45 FACILITY WHICH TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN PROCESS ALL THE WASTE.
04:04:50 AND ANTICIPATING ROUGHLY 3,000 TIMES PER YEAR, AND THAT'S
04:04:56 GARBAGE, THAT'S RECYCLABLES, AND THAT'S YARD WASTE INTO THE
04:05:00 SYSTEM.
04:05:00 SO WE HAVE A SPACE, TOO.
04:05:02 >> I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WAS BETWEEN 20 AND 30
04:05:13 YEARS.
04:05:14 >> OH, NO.
04:05:16 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AND WE TALKED ABOUT HOW LONG THIS WAS
04:05:20 GOING TO BUY US, AT LEAST 20 YEARS OF LIFE OUT OF THIS
04:05:24 THING.
04:05:24 >> AND THEN EXTEND THAT.
04:05:27 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SO 20 YEARS FROM NOW.
04:05:31 I'LL HOLD YOU TO THAT.
04:05:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET'S WRAP THIS UP.
04:05:36 COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
04:05:36 THEN COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:05:38 >> LET'S BEAT THIS DEAD HORSE.
04:05:40 [ LAUGHTER ]
04:05:43 >>BILL CARLSON: IT WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO IN THE BUDGET
04:05:45 PROCESS THAT WE DISCOVERED THAT THE DEPARTMENT WAS LOSING
04:05:50 MONEY AND I WILL OVERSIMPLIFY, BUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU
04:05:53 LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.
04:05:54 TECHNICALLY, THE ENTERPRISE FUND WAS NOT LOSING MONEY, BUT
04:05:58 SOLID WASTE WAS LOSING, AND THE DIFFERENCE WAS THAT THERE
04:06:01 WAS -- AND I WON'T GET THE NUMBERS EXACTLY RIGHT BUT THERE
04:06:05 WAS AN ENTERPRISE RESERVE FUND OF LIKE 20, 30 MILLION AND A
04:06:09 LOSS OF 8 MILLION, SO WE WEREN'T SUBSIDIZING WITH THE
04:06:13 GENERAL FUND YET BUT WE WERE SUBSIDIZING WITH THE FUND, AND
04:06:18 THE SAME THING LAST YEAR.
04:06:19 SO WITH HE WE SAW THAT WE STARTED PUSHING, AND THEN THIS
04:06:23 RATE STUDY WHICH TOOK A LONG TIME WENT INTO THAT.
04:06:27 BUT HAD WE JUST LOOKED AT IT FROM THE POINT OF VIEW, IS IT
04:06:31 NEUTRAL FOR THE ENTERPRISE FUND, WE STILL WOULD BE WAY
04:06:34 BEHIND ON THIS.
04:06:35 THE OTHER THING IS TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY ON SPRUCE
04:06:37 STREET AND I WISH THAT COUNCILMEMBER HENDERSON, BECAUSE YOU
04:06:44 GREW UP IN THAT AREA, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO PUT ON THE
04:06:47 AGENDA SOMETIME A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO
04:06:49 KNOW, WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT OUTSIDE BUT I WOULD LOVE TO
04:06:51 KNOW SENSITIVITIES AND THE EXPERIENCES THAT YOU AND YOUR
04:06:54 FAMILY AND FRIENDS HAVE HAD IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD --
04:07:01 >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT WOULD BE LOVELY.
04:07:03 THAT WOULD HAND OVER TO THE RACIAL COMMITTEE.
04:07:11 >>BILL CARLSON: SO ONE OF THE SENSITIVITIES WE HAVE.
04:07:13 >>GWEN HENDERSON: WAIT A MINUTE, WE DIDN'T SAY WE WERE
04:07:17 GOING TO SELL IT THEN.
04:07:18 THAT WAS WHY I HAD TO CHIME IN ON -- BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT
04:07:24 BELONGS TO THE AND WE GET -- TO THE CITY.
04:07:28 AND WE GET TO DECIDE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH IT.
04:07:31 >>BILL CARLSON: IT MAY NOT BE SOLD AS PART OF THIS BUT IT'S
04:07:34 NOT GOING TO STAY IN ITS CURRENT FORM. ANYWAY, LET ME JUST
04:07:39 TELL YOU THIS.
04:07:39 WHEN WE -- JUST TO GIVE YOU THIS BECAUSE IT WON'T STAY WITH
04:07:44 THE BROWNFIELD PROBLEMS IT HAS AND EVERYTHING.
04:07:48 THE THING I WANT TO TELL YOU IS WHEN I FIRST BRIEFED ON
04:07:51 HANNA AVENUE THREE, FOUR YEARS AGO, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE
04:07:52 REST OF YOU, BUT WHEN I WAS BRIEFED ON HANNA AVENUE 3 OR 4
04:07:56 YEARS AGO, THERE WERE TWO BUILDINGS FOR $100 MILLION GOING
04:08:00 ON THAT SITE, A NEW ADMIN BUILDING AND A NEW POLICE STATION.
04:08:04 THE POLICE STATION WOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TRACKS.
04:08:05 THEN TO OFFSET THAT WE WOULD BE SELLING THE BLUE BUILDING
04:08:08 HERE AND SELLING THE BUILDING ON SPRUCE, AND IF I RECALL
04:08:11 SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT SPRUCE BUILDING I WAS TOLD AROUND 23
04:08:16 MILLION, THE BLUE BUILDING WAS LIKE 17, SO IT WOULD BE 100
04:08:19 MILLION FOR TWO BUILDINGS MINUS 40 MILLION.
04:08:22 THEN WHEN IT CAME BACK THERE WAS 108 MILLION FOR ONE
04:08:25 BUILDING, BUT WITH NO 40 MILLION OFFSET.
04:08:28 AND THEN IT WENT UP FROM THERE TO 121, ET CETERA.
04:08:32 THE POINT I AM MAKING IS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT TO
04:08:34 DO WITH THIS PROPERTY FOR AT LEAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
04:08:37 WE HAVE NOT HAD A SIT-DOWN CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
04:08:40 BUT IT'S NOT LIKE I AM BRINGING IT UP FOR THE FIRST TIME.
04:08:44 IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BUT USING THAT AS A CONTEXT, AND IN
04:08:49 THAT ORIGINAL DISCUSSION ABOUT HANNA AVENUE, IT WAS PROMOTED
04:08:52 AS AN OFFSET FOR HANNA AVENUE.
04:08:55 MY CONCERN IS WHENEVER WE SELL OR LEASE IT FOR, I DON'T WANT
04:08:58 IT TO BE AN OFFSET TO SOMETHING ELSE.
04:09:01 I THINK IT IS A SOLID WASTE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN THE
04:09:08 ENTERPRISE FUND, STILL A SOLID WASTE ASSET.
04:09:10 THE LAST THING, WHEN WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS WASTE TO
04:09:13 ENERGY PLANT A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND THE PRICE STARTED
04:09:15 ESCALATING, I ASKED, IS THERE A 30-YEAR PLAN?
04:09:19 AND SOME PEOPLE IN PUBLIC WORKS LAUGHED AND SAID WE DON'T DO
04:09:22 30-YEAR PLANS IN GOVERNMENT BUT I ACTUALLY CLASS IN HOW TO
04:09:25 DO THAT SO I KNOW THAT HAPPENS.
04:09:27 THERE WAS NO 20 YEAR PLAN AND THERE WASN'T REALLY EVEN A 10
04:09:31 YEAR PLAN.
04:09:31 SO WHAT WE HAVE GOTTEN OVER TIME IS BUDGETS.
04:09:34 I WOULD REALLY LIKE A WRITTEN PLAN, A 30-YEAR PLAN TO GO TO
04:09:38 COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN'S POINT, A 30-YEAR PLAN.
04:09:42 WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO RE REPLACE OVER THE NEXT 30
04:09:45 YEARS AGO?
04:09:46 AND IF YOU BUY A USED CAR YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW LONG THE
04:09:49 TRANSMISSION IS GOING TO LAST, AND WE NEED TO KNOW THAT
04:09:53 ESPECIALLY IF WE ARE BONDING OUT 30 YEARS.
04:09:55 WE BOND OUT A BIG NUMBER, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT
04:09:59 CERTAIN THINGS ARE GOING TO BREAK DOWN, OR WE HAVE TO
04:10:01 EXPAND, THEN WE ARE GOING TO GET STUCK AND SOMEBODY IS GOING
04:10:04 TO HAVE TO ASK FOR MORE BOND IN THE FUTURE.
04:10:06 THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR TODAY, BUT I WOULD AT SOME POINT
04:10:09 LIKE TO SEE A 30-YEAR PLAN.
04:10:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:10:12 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU FOR THE LAST TIME.
04:10:14 LOOK, THE VEHICLES THAT PICK UP THE GARBAGE, THE VEHICLES
04:10:18 THAT PICK UP THE GARBAGE USED TO BE $360,000 PLUS AND NOW
04:10:22 IT'S $489,000 PLUS OR INCREASE OF 35.5 PERCENT JUST THE
04:10:29 GARBAGE CONTAINERS, THE BLUE AND GREEN RUN ONES.
04:10:32 THEY USED TO BE 44.50.
04:10:34 NOW 54.68 OR 27.4% INCREASE.
04:10:38 THE CONTAINER BOXES, THOSE METAL BOXES THAT YOU SEE ABOUT
04:10:43 SIX BY EIGHT OR WHATEVER SIZE IT IS IN 2019 WERE $795.
04:10:47 NOW THEY ARE 1580, OR 98.7% INCREASE.
04:10:53 AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME -- THE ENTERPRISE FUND WITHIN
04:11:02 THOSE DEPARTMENTS FOR THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO KNOW WHAT'S
04:11:08 GOING ON SO THEY CAN MAKE APPROPRIATIONS TO FUND THE SYSTEM.
04:11:10 THERE WAS ONLY ONE EXCEPTION.
04:11:11 WAY BACK 20 YEARS AGO, WE WANTED $2.
04:11:15 THERE WAS 500 SOME ODD THOUSAND WATER CUSTOMERS, $2 A MONTH
04:11:20 FOR WATER AND TWO A MONTH FOR TREATMENT FOR THE LINES
04:11:23 UNDERGROUND.
04:11:24 THEY WERE ALREADY 60, 70, 80 YEARS OLD.
04:11:27 WE DIDN'T DO THAT UNTIL LATER BUT NOW WE DID IT AND NOW WE
04:11:30 ARE COLLECTING 53% UNPAID MONEY IN CASH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S
04:11:35 GONE UP TO $6 FOR EACH ONE, CASH TO DO THE PIPES WHICH IS
04:11:38 2.9 BILLION DOLLARS.
04:11:41 SO GOVERNMENT DOES WORK WHEN IT THINKS AHEAD BUT WE JUST
04:11:45 HAVE TO KEEP AHEAD OF THE CURVE AND THAT'S HOW IT IS, AND WE
04:11:47 ARE GOING TO FINANCE 47% OF IT WHICH IS FINE. I DON'T LIKE
04:11:52 IT BUT WE HAVE TO DO IT.
04:11:54 I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
04:11:57 >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
04:12:00 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 87. 27 FIRST?
04:12:03 >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE WOULD PREFER THE RATE.
04:12:05 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT IS 27.
04:12:06 >> WE ALL NEED TO BE MANUFACTURING BLUE TRASH CANS.
04:12:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 27.
04:12:16 WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE IT?
04:12:18 >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL MOVE ITEM 27.
04:12:20 >> A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER HURTEK, SECONDED BY
04:12:23 COUNCILMAN HENDERSON.
04:12:24 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:12:25 OPPOSED?
04:12:26 >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T SUPPORT THIS OR THE BONDING IN THE
04:12:28 CURRENT FORM SO I AM GOING TO SAY NAY.
04:12:31 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
04:12:37 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DO YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE FOR HOW TO DO
04:12:37 IT?
04:12:38 >>BILL CARLSON: WE JUST PASSED IT SO WE DON'T NEED TO GO
04:12:42 THROUGH IT RIGHT NOW.
04:12:43 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
04:12:44 >>BILL CARLSON: I SAID THERE ARE LOTS OF OPTIONS BUT --
04:12:48 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OH, I SEE.
04:12:49 YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER THEN.
04:12:50 I'M SERIOUS.
04:12:51 I'M NOT PLAYING AROUND.
04:12:53 >>BILL CARLSON: NO, I HAVE PLENTY OF ANSWERS.
04:12:54 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU FIND OUT.
04:12:57 >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST PROPOSED SEVERAL OF THEM INCLUDING
04:12:59 OFFSETTING THAT BUILDING.
04:13:02 BUT I DON'T SUPPORT THE CURRENT FORM.
04:13:05 I THINK WE NEED TO CONTROL COSTS AND WE ALSO NEED TO CONTROL
04:13:08 DEBT.
04:13:08 AND I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.
04:13:10 THANK YOU.
04:13:10 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: READ THE VOTE PLEASE.
04:13:14 >>THE CLERK: THE MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
04:13:17 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND ITEM NUMBER 87. COUNCILMAN MIRANDA
04:13:23 MOVING 87.
04:13:25 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WILL MOVE 87.
04:13:28 UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, ALTHOUGH I MAY NOT BE 100% IN FAVOR
04:13:31 OF DOING THIS, IT HAS TO BE DONE.
04:13:35 THERE'S NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE.
04:13:38 WHEN IT RAINS YOU DON'T GET MONEY.
04:13:39 YOU GET FLOODED.
04:13:40 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA WITH A
04:13:42 SECOND BY VIERA.
04:13:43 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:13:47 ANY MOVED?
04:13:45 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
04:13:50 >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
04:13:55 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 88.
04:13:56 NO STAFF WAS REQUESTED.
04:13:58 >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO MOVED.
04:14:03 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
04:14:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR?
04:14:10 WE ARE STILL IN A MEETING.
04:14:11 ITEM NUMBER 89.
04:14:13 CAN I GET A MOTION TO MOVE IT?
04:14:15 MOTION BY HURTAK, SECONDED BY HENDERSON.
04:14:17 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:14:19 AYE.
04:14:19 ALL RIGHT.
04:14:20 ITEM NUMBER 90.
04:14:24 MOTION FROM HENDERSON, SECOND BY VIERA.
04:14:27 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:14:28 AYE.
04:14:29 ITEM NUMBER 91 WAS CONTINUED.
04:14:32 BY REQUEST WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ITEM NUMBER 99.
04:14:39 AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO MR. SHELBY.
04:14:43 ANDREA ZELMAN, CITY ATTORNEY.
04:14:48 ITEM 99.
04:14:53 AND MS. ZELMAN, NO VOTE IS TAKEN TODAY.
04:14:56 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: INFORMATIONAL.
04:14:59 DON'T FORGET NUMBER 98 ALSO.
04:15:01 BUT WHATEVER ORDER YOU WANT TO TAKE THEM IN IS FINE WITH ME.
04:15:05 AND I DO HAVE A PowerPoint.
04:15:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, WE HAVE IT COMING UP.
04:15:10 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: AND I WILL TRY TO MAKE IT BRIEF.
04:15:14 I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING A LOT ABOUT THIS.
04:15:24 AND HOPE HOPEFULLY REVIEW THIS.
04:15:31 IT HASN'T COME UP YET.
04:15:36 I DON'T SEE IT HERE.
04:15:38 SO QUICKLY, YOU HAD ASKED US TO JUST REPORT ON THE IMPACT OF
04:15:42 HOUSE BILL 601, WHICH IS ACTUALLY NOW BEEN CODIFIED, AND
04:15:49 BEEN APPROVED, BEEN SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR AND IT WILL TAKE
04:15:54 EFFECT JULY 1st.
04:15:55 SO THE MAIN REASON, I WILL SKIP THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT.
04:16:02 YOU ALREADY HEARD FROM ONE OF THE LEGISLATORS TODAY.
04:16:05 SO THIS IS THE PROVISION THAT HAS GENERATED A LOT OF
04:16:10 CONFUSION, SO I WANT TO TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU MORE
04:16:17 CLEARLY.
04:16:19 IT IS CORRECT, THIS IS THE PART OF THE BILL THAT NOW
04:16:23 PROHIBITS THE CITY FROM ENFORCING AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD DO
04:16:28 ONE OF TWO THINGS, ALLOW THE CRB TO RECEIVE PROCESS,
04:16:33 INVESTIGATE COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT BY LAW ENFORCEMENT
04:16:37 OFFICERS, AND AS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID, OUR BOARD
04:16:41 DOES NOT CONDUCT ITS OWN INVESTIGATIONS.
04:16:44 THEY DO RECEIVE COMPLAINTS, BUT THEY DON'T CONDUCT
04:16:48 INVESTIGATIONS.
04:16:48 WE ARE NOT SAYING THAT THEY DO.
04:16:50 HOWEVER, THE SECOND PART OF THAT PART OF THE BILL THAT I PUT
04:16:56 IN BOLDFACE REFERS TO CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
04:17:01 AGENCIES' INVESTIGATIONS OF COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT BY LAW
04:17:06 ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OR CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS.
04:17:09 AND THE BILL AGAIN SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT AS OF JULY
04:17:13 1st, WE CANNOT ENFORCE AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR
04:17:17 SUCH CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT.
04:17:19 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EVEN CLOSED CASES AS --
04:17:24 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CORRECT.
04:17:25 AND THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT JAMES MICHAEL SHAW REFERRED TO
04:17:28 EARLIER.
04:17:29 AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A SCREEN SHOT OF A VIDEO.
04:17:33 WHEN YOU GO TO THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR CIVILIAN
04:17:36 OVERSIGHT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT WHICH IS A NATIONAL
04:17:39 ORGANIZATION OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT AGENCIES, SUCH AS THE ONE
04:17:45 THAT THE CITY CRB, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A VIDEO CALLED
04:17:53 CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT 101, AND THIS IS WHERE THEY ARE DEFINING
04:17:58 WHAT OVERSIGHT IS.
04:17:59 AND IF YOU READ IT, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ.
04:18:04 INVESTIGATES, AUDITS, OR REVIEWS INTERNAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
04:18:09 INVESTIGATIONS OR PROCESSES, INCLUDING COMMUNITY COMPLAINTS
04:18:12 AND USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS, CONDUCTS ONGOING MONITORING OF
04:18:19 POLICIES, PROCEDURES, ET CETERA, AND INCLUDES ANY AGENCY
04:18:22 THAT HAS CIVILIANS DOING IT.
04:18:25 AGAIN, THE REVIEW OF INTERNAL LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATIONS
04:18:32 IS CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT.
04:18:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK THE KEY WORD IS REVIEW.
04:18:42 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: REVIEWING CIVILIAN -- IT IS THE NATIONAL
04:18:48 ORGANIZATION.
04:18:49 IT'S THE ONE THAT THE CO-SPONSOR OF THE BILL REFERENCED IN
04:18:53 THE STAFF ANALYSIS FROM THE FLORIDA LEGISLATURE THIS YEAR.
04:18:58 SO AGAIN, IT'S SILLY TO ARGUE ABOUT IS A REVIEW OF A CLOSED
04:19:06 INVESTIGATION OVERSIGHT?
04:19:07 BECAUSE AGAIN, EVERYONE IN THE CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT OF LAW
04:19:12 ENFORCEMENT WORLD KNOWS THAT, YES, IN FACT THAT IS WHAT
04:19:18 OVERSIGHT INCLUDES.
04:19:20 SO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU HAVE SEEN THIS SLIDE NOW.
04:19:26 THIS WAS ACTUALLY WHAT THE REPRESENTATIVE WHO WAS HERE
04:19:29 EARLIER READ TO YOU, THE DEFINITION OF A CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT
04:19:33 AGENCY, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE LEGISLATIVE STAFF ANALYSIS.
04:19:39 YOU WILL ALSO FIND THAT THERE WAS A FAMOUS FLORIDA STATE
04:19:41 UNIVERSITY STUDY OF THE EFFECTIVENESS OF CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT
04:19:47 AGENCIES IN FLORIDA.
04:19:51 TAMPA IS LISTED AS A CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT AGENCY IN THAT
04:19:59 ARTICLE.
04:20:00 AND THIS IS SORT OF WHAT I CONSIDER THE KEY SLIDE, IS WE
04:20:04 WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT OUR ORDINANCE, WHICH IS ORDINANCE OR
04:20:10 CHAPTER NUMBER 1-8 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE, AND THESE ARE
04:20:14 THE CRB's DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES AS OUTLINED IN OUR
04:20:20 CODE.
04:20:22 REVIEWING CLOSED INVESTIGATIONS.
04:20:25 AGAIN, EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED NOW AS OF JULY 1st BY
04:20:29 FLORIDA STATUTE, PARTICIPATED IN THE HIRING PROCESS, NOT
04:20:35 PROHIBITED, HOWEVER, THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE SOMEWHAT
04:20:39 PROBLEMATIC.
04:20:42 MY UNDERSTANDING -- AND I APOLOGIZE, I MEANT TO INTRODUCE --
04:20:46 I HAVE WITH ME TODAY CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE AND MIKE SCHMID.
04:20:52 MIKE HAS WORKED WITH THE CRB SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN 2015.
04:20:57 CAMARIA HAS BEEN THE ATTORNEY FOR THE BOARD FOR THE LAST
04:20:59 COUPLE OF YEARS.
04:21:00 AND SO WHAT THEY HAVE EXPLAINED TO ME, BECAUSE AGAIN THEY
04:21:04 WORK MUCH MORE CLOSELY WITH THE BOARD, IS THIS PART OF THE
04:21:09 CODE HAS BEEN KIND OF DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT BECAUSE WHEN
04:21:14 TPD CONDUCTS HIRING, IT'S AN ALL-DAY AFFAIR, AND SO IT HAS
04:21:19 PROVEN DIFFICULT TO FIND -- THIS IS A VOLUNTEER BOARD MANY
04:21:24 OF WHOM HAVE JOBS, AND SO IT'S HARD TO GET FOLKS TO WANT TO
04:21:28 GIVE UP A WHOLE DAY TO SIT IN ON THE INTERVIEW PANELS.
04:21:32 SO I THINK STATISTICALLY, IN 2023, CURRENT HAS 31 HIRING
04:21:40 PANEL INTERVIEWS, AND THEY HAD A MEMBER OF THE CRB
04:21:43 PARTICIPATE IN 17 OF THOSE, BUT 14 THERE WAS NO CRA MEMBER
04:21:51 PRESENT, AND AGAIN NOT TO CRITICIZE THE MEMBERS, THAT'S A
04:21:54 WHOLE DAY OUT OF THEIR LIFE, BUT IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT TO
04:21:57 IMPLEMENT AND ENFORCE THAT PART OF THE ORDINANCE.
04:22:01 GOING TO THE NEXT DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY, COMPLAINT FILING
04:22:06 AND TRACKING SYSTEM.
04:22:07 AGAIN, PROHIBITED BY THE NEW BILL.
04:22:12 ONE OF THE OTHER DUTIES IS TO CONDUCT AN ANNUAL COMMUNITY
04:22:15 SURVEY, BUT THE ORDINANCE SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT'S TO OBTAIN
04:22:21 FEEDBACK REGARDING THE DEPARTMENT AND ITS POLICIES AND
04:22:23 PROCEDURES.
04:22:26 AS I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IN A MINUTE, THE BILL TALKS
04:22:29 ABOUT CREATING A NEW BOARD THAT WOULD REVIEW POLICIES AND
04:22:33 PROCEDURES, SO AGAIN THAT PART OF THEIR DUTIES HAS NOW BEEN
04:22:38 EFFECTIVELY PREEMPTED TO THE NEW BOARD, AGAIN REVIEW OF
04:22:44 COMPLETED CASES NOT ALLOWED ANYMORE AS OF JULY 1st.
04:22:47 REVIEW OF MATTERS OF IMPORTANCE OR INTEREST.
04:22:51 AGAIN, THAT'S RELATING TO A CLOSED INVESTIGATION, THAT'S NOW
04:22:56 PREEMPTED BY THE STATUTE.
04:23:00 ANOTHER IMPORTANT STATISTIC, MIKE COMPILED THIS FOR US, THE
04:23:05 BOARD EFFECTIVELY STARTED MEETING IN 2016, AND BASICALLY AT
04:23:13 83% OF THEIR MEETINGS, THE BOARD ADDRESSED ONLY THE REVIEW
04:23:18 OF CLOSED INVESTIGATIONS.
04:23:21 SO THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEIR TIME HAS BEEN SPENT DOING
04:23:26 SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE NOW PROHIBITED FROM DOING, AS OF
04:23:30 JULY 1st.
04:23:35 SILVER LINING, IF YOU WILL, IS THAT THE LEGISLATURE DID SAY
04:23:43 THAT POLICE CHIEFS AND CITY SHERIFFS IN COUNTIES, THEY NOW
04:23:49 CREATE A NEW BOARD.
04:23:51 HOWEVER, IN OUR CASE IT WOULD BE THE POLICE CHIEF THAT WOULD
04:23:54 PICK THE MEMBERS, NONE OF THE MAYOR OR CITY COUNCIL WOULD
04:23:57 HAVE ANY IS SAY IN THAT.
04:23:59 IT'S A 7-MEMBER BOARD, ONE OF WHOM MUST BE A RETIRED LAW
04:24:03 ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, AND AGAIN EXPRESSED PURPOSE IS TO
04:24:09 REVIEW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF THE OFFICE -- I MEAN OF
04:24:13 THE DEPARTMENT, TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
04:24:15 IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THIS WOULD BE A SUNSHINE BOARD,
04:24:18 SO THE PUBLIC WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND MEETINGS, HAVE AN
04:24:23 OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
04:24:24 IT'S NOT JUST SOME COMMITTEE THAT WOULD MEET IN THE RECESSES
04:24:29 OF THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE CHIEF AND NO ONE
04:24:31 ELSE.
04:24:32 BUT AGAIN THAT'S THE NEW OVERSIGHT BOARD THAT COULD BE
04:24:36 CREATED, AND CHIEF BERCAW WHEN CAMARIA PRESENTED THIS
04:24:43 PRESENTATION TO THE CRB ASKED HER TO SAY THAT THE TAMPA
04:24:47 POLICE DEPARTMENT IS COMMITTED TO TRANSPARENCY, AND WORKING
04:24:50 IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE TAMPA SAFER
04:24:54 TOGETHER AND LOOKS FORWARD TO ESTABLISHING A NEW BOARD AND
04:24:57 HAS ENCOURAGED THE EXISTING BOARD MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE.
04:25:08 WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES, AND SO STAR TO DATE,
04:25:11 EVERY CITY THAT MIKE HAS CONTACTED HAS -- THEIR BOARDS HAVE
04:25:18 STOPPED MEETING.
04:25:18 OUR BOARD HAS CONTINUED TO MEET EVEN AFTER THIS BILL WAS
04:25:22 PASSED, BUT HE'S TALKED TO TALLAHASSEE, MIAMI, NORTH MIAMI
04:25:29 WE FOUND THEIR INFORMATION ONLINE, SARASOTA, ORLANDO,
04:25:33 ST. PETERSBURG.
04:25:35 EVERYONE HE HAS TALKED TO SO FAR THAT'S WORKING WITH THEIR
04:25:40 OWN SIMILAR REVIEW BOARD IS IN THE PROCESS OF REPEALING
04:25:44 THEIR ORDINANCE.
04:25:45 THEY DON'T FEEL THAT THE NEW BILL GIVES THEM ANY OTHER
04:25:49 CHOICE.
04:25:50 THE MIAMI BOARD THAT WE ALL HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT, THEY
04:25:54 ACTUALLY, I THINK, HAVE LIKE A $2 MILLION BUDGET AND FULL
04:25:58 TIME STAFF, THEY HAVE DISBANDED.
04:26:00 SO THIS ISN'T A QUESTION OF OUR OFFICE DISAGREEING WITH THE
04:26:08 ACLU AND HAVING A FIGHT OVER LEGAL INTERPRETATION.
04:26:11 THIS IS TO DATE -- WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO ANYONE IN THE STATE
04:26:17 WHO FEELS OTHER THAN WE DO, AND THAT IS THAT WE REALLY HAVE
04:26:21 NO CHOICE IN THIS MATTER.
04:26:23 THE LEGISLATURE HAS GIVEN US NO CHOICE.
04:26:29 BUT TO STOP OUR BOARD, WE CANNOT AGAIN, AS OF JULY 1st,
04:26:34 WE CAN'T ENFORCE AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CRB TO DO
04:26:38 THAT WHICH THEY ARE NOW PROHIBITED FROM DOING.
04:26:44 SO IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE REPEAL OUR ORDINANCE.
04:26:48 OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH THAT.
04:26:51 THAT'S A LEGISLATIVE ACTION.
04:26:55 BUT IT'S CLEAR THAT AS OF JULY 1st WE CAN'T ENFORCE IT
04:26:59 AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.
04:27:00 SO I'M HAPPY -- OH, I WANTED TO CLEAR UP A COUPLE OF OTHER
04:27:05 COMMENTS BASED ON SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE DURING
04:27:08 PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
04:27:11 THE ACLU ATTORNEY THAT SPOKE TALKED ABOUT, WELL, THE STATUTE
04:27:15 SAYS YOU CAN'T ENFORCE AN ORDINANCE, BUT THE CRB IN TAMPA
04:27:20 WAS CREATED BY EXECUTIVE ORDER.
04:27:23 THAT'S VERY MISLEADING.
04:27:25 YES, IN 2015 THERE WAS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
04:27:28 HOWEVER THE 2015 COUNCIL THEN CODIFIED IT BY ORDINANCE.
04:27:32 IN 2021.
04:27:33 AGAIN, THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
04:27:38 CRB, THE ORIGINAL CRB ORDINANCE, AND THERE WAS LANGUAGE
04:27:43 EXPRESSLY SUPERSEDING WHAT HAD HAPPENED IN 2015.
04:27:47 SO OUR CRB IS A CREATION OF ORDINANCE, BUT IT OPERATES UNDER
04:27:54 AN ORDINANCE.
04:27:55 AGAIN AS OF JULY 1st, WE CAN'T ENFORCE THAT ORDINANCE.
04:28:00 SO THAT WAS REALLY -- I'M SORRY TO BE RUSHING BUT I KNOW
04:28:03 IT'S THE END OF THE DAY, SO I AM GLAD TO SLOW DOWN AND
04:28:07 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
04:28:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN.
04:28:13 I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE MR. ALBERT COOK IN THE AUDIENCE WHO
04:28:16 SERVED ON THE BOARD FOR A WHILE.
04:28:18 YOU KNOW, IT'S A VOLUNTEER BOARD BUT HE COMMIT ADD LOT OF
04:28:22 YOUR TIME.
04:28:22 I WANT TO SAY WE APPRECIATE YOU SIR AND THANK YOU FOR BEING
04:28:25 HERE.
04:28:25 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THANK YOU.
04:28:26 AND THAT REMINDED ME OF ONE MORE THING I WANTED TO SAY.
04:28:29 I DO WANT TO SAY, I TALKED TO MIKE ABOUT THIS.
04:28:32 I SAW MIKE SPEAK VERY EMOTIONALLY ABOUT THIS AND CAMARIA AS
04:28:37 WELL, AND I HAVE WATCHED SEVERAL OF THE CRB MEETINGS.
04:28:41 THEY ARE VERY SINCERE.
04:28:43 THEY ARE VERY PASSIONATE.
04:28:45 WE ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE PEOPLE LIKE THAT THAT VOLUNTEER.
04:28:52 I THINK THIS BOARD DESERVES THE ACCOLADES FOR ALL THE WORK
04:28:56 THEY HAVE PUT IN OVER THE YEARS ARE AND WATCHING THEM REALLY
04:28:59 IS QUITE INTERESTING.
04:29:00 THEY TAKE WHAT THEY DO VERY SERIOUSLY.
04:29:02 AND I THINK DO A VERY GOOD JOB.
04:29:05 AND I WANTED TO SAY THAT.
04:29:07 AND I ALSO WANT TO SAY, I DON'T REMEMBER WHERE I SAW THIS,
04:29:11 BUT SOMEONE -- OH, I KNOW, ONE OF THE ATTORNEYS THAT SPOKE
04:29:16 AT THE CRB IMPLIED THAT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION WAS BEHIND
04:29:22 THIS OR WAS HAPPY ABOUT THIS OUTCOME.
04:29:25 I CAN TELL YOU FROM BEING THE PERSON WHO ORIGINALLY TOLD THE
04:29:29 MAYOR WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THIS BILL, WHAT THE IMPACT OF THIS
04:29:34 BILL WOULD BE, AND I DON'T MEAN TO BE DRAMATIC BUT HER FACE
04:29:39 FELL AND SHE SAID THAT IS A REAL SHAME BECAUSE I REALLY
04:29:42 BELIEVE THIS BOARD WENT A LONG WAY IN BUILDING UP TRUST FROM
04:29:48 THE COMMUNITY AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND EVERYONE I HAVE
04:29:51 TALKED TO, CAMARIA WORKED WITH THE BOARD AND THE POLICE
04:29:57 OFFICERS WHO WORKED WITH THE BOARD HAVE, SAID SIMILAR
04:29:59 THINGS.
04:30:00 SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
04:30:02 SO I'M SORRY, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
04:30:03 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
04:30:07 THANK YOU, MS. ZELMAN, TO ARE YOUR VERY DETAILED PRESENT
04:30:11 PRESENTATION.
04:30:12 I'M GLAD YOU ENDED ON THAT WHICH IS -- FIRST BEFORE I GO
04:30:16 INTO IT, I'M GLAD THAT CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO MENTIONED A PAST
04:30:21 MEMBER OF THE BOARD.
04:30:23 WE HAVE HAD SOME GREAT CAMPAIGNS ON THE BOARD, AMAZING
04:30:25 PEOPLE LIKE JUDGE E.J. SALCINES, COLONEL CJ REYES.
04:30:32 MANY OF YOU KNOW LINCOLN.
04:30:34 HE IS LIKE A WONDERFUL GUY, ACADEMY PREP.
04:30:38 I HAVE KNOWN LINCOLN FOR 20, 25 YEARS AND JUST ONE OF THE
04:30:42 FINEST PEOPLE I KNOW, ET CETERA.
04:30:44 SO REALLY, REALLY GOOD PEOPLE.
04:30:46 BUT WE DO START WITH THE PREMISE THAT OUR HANDS ARE TIED ON
04:30:49 THIS.
04:30:50 WHETHER WE SUPPORT THIS OR NOT.
04:30:52 OBVIOUSLY, I WILL SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND SAYING IF I WAS IN
04:30:55 THE LEGISLATURE, I WOULD HAVE VOTED IN A ON THIS
04:30:58 LEGISLATION.
04:30:58 I THINK IT'S AWFUL.
04:30:59 I THINK THAT WHAT THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS AND HAD IS SOMETHING
04:31:05 THAT IS PART OF A LARGER VISION ON SOMETHING CONSISTENT WITH
04:31:09 THE VALUES OF COMMUNITY POLICING, NOT THE RADICAL TERM
04:31:14 COMMUNITY CONTROL OF POLICE.
04:31:18 I THINK PORTLAND, MINNEAPOLIS, I DON'T SUPPORT THAT.
04:31:21 BUT GETTING THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, THAT
04:31:23 IS SOMETHING THAT IS SO IMPORTANT.
04:31:26 HAVING BOARDS LIKE THIS THAT ARE SENSIBLE, THAT ARE
04:31:29 SENSIBLE.
04:31:30 HAVING THINGS LIKE THE TRADITIONAL IDEA OF COMMUNITY POLICE
04:31:33 AND GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY, CHIEF BERCAW HAD A
04:31:37 WONDERFUL OP-ED IN THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES" THIS MORNING, AND
04:31:41 WHAT COPS SIGNED UP TO DO, I REMEMBER WHEN THE ISSUE OF THE
04:31:45 SO-CALLED CRIME FREE HOUSING ISSUE CAME UP, AND SPEAKING TO
04:31:48 BE A POLICE OFFICER, I ALWAYS ONE OF MY FAVORITE PARTS OF
04:31:52 THE JOB IS ALWAYS TALKING TO FIRST RESPONDERS, COPS AND
04:31:56 FIREFIGHTERS AT A PBA EVENT AND SOMEBODY READ BEING THAT HE
04:31:59 SHALL YOU AND SAYING.
04:32:00 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: DIDN'T SIGN UP TO DO THAT, BECAUSE THEY
04:32:02 SIGNED UP BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
04:32:05 BUT GETTING THE COMMUNITY REALLY, REALLY INVOLVED.
04:32:07 SO FOR ME, THIS LEGISLATION IS SOMETHING THAT INTRUDES ON
04:32:12 LOCAL GOVERNMENT CONTROL, ON A VERY, VERY SENSITIVE ISSUE.
04:32:17 AND I WOULD HAVE VOTED AGAINST IT.
04:32:19 BUT OUR HANDS ARE TIED.
04:32:20 AND TO SAY OTHERWISE, I FIND NO SUPPORT, WITH ALL DUE
04:32:23 RESPECT, AND PEOPLE THAT DISAGREE, I FIND NO SUPPORT TO SAY
04:32:27 OTHERWISE RIGHT NOW.
04:32:28 I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR IN TERMS OF GOING FORWARD ON THIS
04:32:31 WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
04:32:34 I THINK ON THIS COUNCIL, IN FACT, WE ACTUALLY -- THERE WERE
04:32:40 SOME CHANGES TO THE CRB THAT WERE PROPOSED THAT I FOUND TO
04:32:44 BE NOT THE BEST, SUBPOENA POWER.
04:32:47 I HAD MAJOR ISSUES WITH HAVING CONCURRENT SUBPOENA POWER
04:32:50 FROM POTENTIALLY ONGOING CRIMINAL CASE IN CIRCUIT COURT AND
04:32:56 WITH THE BOARD, BUT IN LOOKING AT A SEPARATE ATTORNEY WITH
04:32:59 THE BOARD, IT IS A PRIVATE SECTOR ATTORNEY, I VOTED TO
04:33:03 SUPPORT THAT AND IT PASSED 4-3 SO THERE WAS SOME IMPROVEMENT
04:33:06 TO THE BOARD BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN THE BOARD.
04:33:08 AND I THINK IF WE WERE TO TAKE A VOTE UP HERE, ON THE
04:33:12 LEGISLATURE, WE WOULD HAVE HE ALL VOTED AGAINST THIS.
04:33:15 UNFORTUNATELY THIS TIES OUR HANDS.
04:33:16 SO AGAIN MS. ZELMAN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
04:33:20 SOMETIMES IT'S NOT EASY AS AN ATTORNEY TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT
04:33:21 IT IS.
04:33:25 BUT THAT'S PART OF THE ATTORNEY'S JOB.
04:33:28 SO THANK YOU.
04:33:28 >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
04:33:34 JUST FOR THE PUBLIC OR ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T KNOW, IN 2015,
04:33:38 "TAMPA BAY TIMES" DID AN INVESTIGATIVE STORY THAT WAS THEN
04:33:42 CALLED BIKING WHILE BLACK, AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY CAME
04:33:46 FORWARD.
04:33:47 I WAS WASN'T ON THE COUNCIL YET.
04:33:48 I WAS AN ACTIVIST AND BUSINESS PERSON BUT MEMBERS OF THE
04:33:52 COMMUNITY CAME FORWARD AND WANTED TO STOP THAT POLICY THAT
04:33:55 THEY CONSIDERED RACIST AND OPPRESSIVE.
04:33:57 AND THERE WERE 22 CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS GOT TOLLING, ACLU WAS
04:34:02 ONE OF THEM, BUT THERE WERE 22 AND THEY WENT TO THE MAYOR
04:34:06 AND CITY COUNCIL AND TRIED TO STOP IT.
04:34:08 THEY GOT INTENSE PUSHBACK SO THEY STARTED LOOKING FOR OTHER
04:34:11 REMEDIES, AND THEY WENT TO CITY COUNCIL, AND ASKED FOR A
04:34:15 CRB.
04:34:16 AND THERE WAS A BIG FIGHT OVER THAT WHICH EVERYBODY
04:34:19 REMEMBERS, BUT THE IDEA WAS IF THEY DOESN'T STOP THE RACIST
04:34:22 POLICIES AT THE MAYOR LEVEL THEY WOULD STOP IT AT THE POLICE
04:34:26 OFFICER LEVEL.
04:34:28 I WAS IN FAVOR AT THE TIME, AND I HAVE WORKED TO SUPPORT THE
04:34:32 CRB OVER THE YEARS.
04:34:34 THE PREMISE I THINK WAS ALWAYS A BIT OFF BECAUSE THE PROBLEM
04:34:39 WITH BIKING WHILE BLACK DIDN'T COME FROM INDIVIDUAL POLICE
04:34:42 OFFICERS, IT CAME FROM THE TOP.
04:34:44 SO THEN AS WE ROLLED FORWARD, IT CHANGED SOME OVERTIME BUT
04:34:50 THEN THE "TAMPA BAY TIMES" DID ANOTHER INVESTIGATION.
04:34:52 THESE ARE THE ONLY TWO THINGS THEY FOUND.
04:34:55 BUT THEY FOUND RENTING WHILE BLACK.
04:34:59 BIKING WHILE BLACK CONDEMNED THE POLICY AS VIOLATING CIVIL
04:35:03 RIGHTS.
04:35:04 RENTING WHILE BLACK AS FAR AS I KNOW AFTER TWO OR THREE
04:35:06 YEARS THE DOJ IS STILL INVESTIGATING FOR CIVIL RIGHTS
04:35:09 VIOLATIONS.
04:35:10 AND SO THESE ARE BIG CONCERNS THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS.
04:35:13 WE CAN'T GO BACK TO 2019 OR 2015.
04:35:18 WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD AND PROTECTING CIVIL RIGHTS.
04:35:22 AND I THINK THIS ADMINISTRATION FOR THE MOST PART HAS WORKED
04:35:26 WITH CITY COUNCIL, AND THE COMMUNITY.
04:35:28 I REMEMBER A CONVERSATION WITH JAMES SHAW ON THE PHONE,
04:35:32 BEGIN A, THE FORMER CITY ATTORNEY, AND THE MAYOR WAS OKAY
04:35:35 WITH THOSE CONVERSATIONS GOING ON AND ALLOWED CHANGES TO BE
04:35:38 MADE THAT WOULD HELP PROTECT CITIZENS, AND THE MAYOR WORKING
04:35:42 WITH POLICE CHIEFS AS CHIEF BERCAW SAID GOT RID OF BICYCLE
04:35:48 BIKING WHILE BLACK AND RENTING WHILE BLACK.
04:35:51 I THINK WE HAVE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS AND THAT TAKES AWAY
04:35:54 SOME OF THE NEED FOR THIS ALTHOUGH THERE'S ALWAYS A NEED TO
04:35:58 WATCH OUT.
04:35:58 MY POINT IS I HAVE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF PROTECTING CIVIL
04:36:01 RIGHTS FOR YEARS, BUT ESPECIALLY STARTING WITH THAT INCIDENT
04:36:04 IN 2015 AND WORKED TO GET RID OF THESE POLICIES THAT THE DOJ
04:36:09 CONDEMNED, BUT YOU HEARD THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE THIS
04:36:16 MORNING.
04:36:17 HE BELIEVES AND HIS COLLEAGUES BELIEVE THAT THIS IS VERY
04:36:21 TIGHT AND THAT THE LEGISLATION SHUTS DOWN THE CRB.
04:36:25 AND HE SAID AT THE END, AND I ASKED HIM TO SAY THIS BECAUSE
04:36:29 I FIGURED THAT WAS HIS POLICY, I SAID IF IT'S TRUE SAY IT.
04:36:33 AND SAID IF YOU ALL FIND SOME WAY NARROWLY TO KEEP IT UP, I
04:36:37 MAY GO BACK AND CHANGE THE LEGISLATION AGAIN.
04:36:39 THEREFORE, IT'S A WASTE OF TIME TO MOVE FORWARD.
04:36:42 AND I DON'T WANT GOOD PEOPLE LIKE THE GENTLEMAN IN THE
04:36:45 AUDIENCE, THE OTHER GOOD PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, TO WASTE THEIR
04:36:48 TIME.
04:36:48 I DON'T WANT TO WASTE LEGAL TIME AND OTHERS FIGHTING THIS.
04:36:53 I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS THAT COULD
04:36:57 BE -- AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE 22 CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS TO
04:37:01 RECONVENE.
04:37:02 MAYBE THERE'S A CHARTER AMENDMENT TO PREVENT CIVIL RIGHTS
04:37:05 VIOLATIONS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
04:37:07 BUT I THINK THAT THERE HAVE GOT TO BE OTHER SOLUTIONS TO
04:37:11 PROTECT THE PUBLIC OTHER THAN THIS, WHICH IS NOW ILLEGAL,
04:37:15 LIKE MY COLLEAGUES SAID, IF I WAS AT THE LEGISLATURE I WOULD
04:37:18 HAVE VOTED AGAINST THAT LEGISLATION, BUT NOW THAT IT'S THERE
04:37:20 AND THEY ARE DETERMINED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS GOES AWAY.
04:37:23 IT'S A WASTE OF CITY TIME AND RESOURCES TO KEEP IT GOING.
04:37:26 THANK YOU.
04:37:27 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. ZELMAN.
04:37:30 WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE.
04:37:32 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: AGAIN, THE NEXT STEP, AND WE WILL BRING
04:37:35 YOU BACK AN ORDINANCE, WE WILL HAVE TO BRING BACK AND
04:37:38 ORDINANCE BE REPEALING THIS.
04:37:39 AGAIN, IF NO ONE HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
04:37:46 TIME.
04:37:47 >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO BRING IT
04:37:53 BACK?
04:37:54 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: IF YOU WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR US TO BRING
04:37:56 BACK AN ORDINANCE REPEALING.
04:37:58 >>BILL CARLSON: I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE YOU COME BACK
04:38:00 WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE.
04:38:01 WHAT DATE?
04:38:04 OH, FIRST READING?
04:38:06 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YES.
04:38:07 >> JULY 18th?
04:38:18 WE COULD DO IT FOR THE JUNE 20th MEETING.
04:38:20 >>BILL CARLSON: THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT
04:38:26 IF EVERYBODY HASN'T WATCHED THIS.
04:38:27 >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WE ARE GETTING THE BUDGET PRESENTATION ON
04:38:33 JULY 18th?
04:38:34 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: JULY 1st IS WHEN WE CAN NO ALLOW THE
04:38:40 BOARD TO GO FORWARD AND BUT OTHER CITIES PRIOR TO REPEALING
04:38:45 THE ORDINANCE, SO THAT MAY BE WHAT WE'LL HAVE.
04:38:48 >>BILL CARLSON: I MAKE A MOTION TO BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE
04:38:50 FOR FIRST READING ON AUGUST 1st, AND AGAIN, FOR COMMENT,
04:38:54 FOR ANYBODY WATCHING, I WOULD NOT DO THIS OTHER THAN FOR THE
04:38:59 LEGISLATION.
04:38:59 IT'S JUST NOT FEASIBLE TO CONTINUE THIS AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.
04:39:02 >>GWEN HENDERSON: AND TO CONCLUDE TO ALSO NOT MOVE FORWARD.
04:39:12 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
04:39:14 >>LUIS VIERA: IF IT CEASES BY JULY 1st.
04:39:21 >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT'S NOT NECESSARY?
04:39:27 >>BILL CARLSON: MY MOTION FAILED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
04:39:29 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: NO, I MEAN THERE'S A MEETING SCHEDULED IN
04:39:33 JUNE.
04:39:37 WOULD YOU LIKE THE COUNCIL TO ASK US TO CANCEL THAT
04:39:40 MECHANIC?
04:39:44 I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE A CLEAR STATEMENT, YOU
04:39:50 CREATED THE BOARD, JUST TO DIRECT US FOE NOTIFY THE BOARD
04:39:52 THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CANCEL THE JUNE MEETING.
04:39:59 >>BILL CARLSON: CAN WE JUST DO A SEPARATE MOTION AND PASS
04:40:03 THE FIRST ONE FIRST?
04:40:04 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THE FIRST MOTION IS TO COME BACK WITH A
04:40:06 FIRST READING AUGUST 1st.
04:40:08 SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:40:10 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:40:11 ANY OPPOSED?
04:40:12 AND THEN THE SECOND MOTION IS TO ASK FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO
04:40:17 BE CANCELED.
04:40:18 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: TO ASK STAFF TO CANCEL THE JUNE CRB
04:40:22 MEETING.
04:40:22 >>GWEN HENDERSON: JUNE 25th.
04:40:26 >> [OFF MICROPHONE]
04:40:33 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT A MOTION?
04:40:35 ALL MEETINGS UNTIL THE ISSUE IS RESOLVED.
04:40:36 THE SECOND IS FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
04:40:39 ALL IN FAVOR?
04:40:40 ANY OPPOSED?
04:40:40 >>BILL CARLSON: AND THEN WE NEED SOME WAY TO THANK THEM.
04:40:48 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK VOTING NO.
04:40:52 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: THAT WOULD BE A NICE GESTURE, TO THANK
04:40:56 THEM.
04:40:56 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN DO IT UNDER NEW BUSINESS.
04:41:00 NEXT UP IS --
04:41:06 >> NUMBER 98 AS WELL.
04:41:09 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CITY ATTORNEY.
04:41:11 IT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO DO THE RULES FIRST AND THEN
04:41:14 THE RESIDENCY THING OR THE RESIDENCY AND THEN THE RULES.
04:41:17 I THINK THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE LEFT.
04:41:18 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE ARE GOING TO GO TO NUMBER 98.
04:41:22 >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WE ARE GOING TO DO RESIDENCY FIRST.
04:41:29 SORRY.
04:41:29 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: SO THIS IS HOPEFULLY YOU ALL READ, I DID A
04:41:34 BRIEF MEMO IN RESPONSE TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S MOTION, AND
04:41:38 REALLY THE GIST OF WHAT SHE WAS ASKING ME, AND CORRECT ME IF
04:41:43 I AM WRONG, IS WHAT COULD WE DO SHORT OF A CHARTER AMENDMENT
04:41:50 TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CITY EMPLOYEES TO WHOM THE RESIDENCY
04:41:56 REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
04:42:01 JUST TO PUT IT ON THE TABLE, I HATE TO EVEN SUGGEST THIS, IF
04:42:06 YOU WANTED TO DO A CHARTER AMENDMENT, THERE IS TIME.
04:42:08 WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT PRETTY MUCH IMMEDIATELY TO GET IT ON
04:42:12 THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.
04:42:14 BUT IT WOULD BE THE CLEANEST AND NEATEST WAY TO CHANGE THE
04:42:22 RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT IS THE THAT IS COUNCIL'S DESIRE.
04:42:26 OTHERWISE, WHAT THE MEMO PROVIDES, SOME OTHER WAYS TO DO IT,
04:42:33 TO AT LEAST SHRINK THE NUMBER, BECAUSE AGAIN, JUST TO START
04:42:39 AT THE BEGINNING, WHAT OUR CHARTER PROVIDES -- THE ELMO --
04:42:50 CAN YOU SEE THAT?
04:42:57 NOT YET.
04:42:57 THERE WE GO.
04:43:00 SO I BROKE IT.
04:43:08 THAT SECTION 6.01 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CHARTER.
04:43:13 WHAT THE CHARTER SPECIFICALLY SAYS, I WILL READ THE KEY, THE
04:43:16 PERTINENT PROVISIONS, IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT OF THE CITY
04:43:19 SHALL BE CONDUCTED BY THE FOLLOWING NAMED OFFICERS AND
04:43:21 BOARDS.
04:43:22 THE MAYOR, THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY CLERK, CITY ATTORNEY,
04:43:27 CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, AN INTERNAL AUDITOR, A POLICE
04:43:31 CHIEF, A FIRE CHIEF, AND THEN WE GET INTO THE BOARDS.
04:43:34 I'LL SKIP THOSE.
04:43:35 AND ALL SAID OFFICERS AND MEMBERS SHALL BE RESIDENTS AND
04:43:40 ELECTORS OF THE CITY.
04:43:42 AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION AGAIN, ELECTORS MEANS THAT YOU
04:43:45 ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
04:43:49 THIS GOES ON TO SAY THAT THE MAYOR MAY CREATE OTHER
04:43:54 DEPARTMENTS, AND THE HEADS OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS ALSO MUST BE
04:44:00 RESIDENTS AND ELECTORS OF THE CITY, AND THEN AS I MENTIONED
04:44:04 IN THE MEMO, THERE'S THE OTHER PROVISION OF THE CHARTER
04:44:08 SECTION 6.03 THAT TALKS ABOUT WHO MUST BE APPOINTED BY CITY
04:44:15 COUNCIL.
04:44:16 THE MAYOR NOMINATES, CITY COUNCIL APPOINTS, AS OF THE LAST
04:44:20 CHARTER CHANGE, AND THAT'S ANY DEPARTMENT HEADS, AS WELL AS
04:44:25 ANYONE WITH AUTHORITY EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN THAT OF THE
04:44:28 DEPARTMENT HEADS.
04:44:30 SO SINCE MAYOR CASTOR TOOK OFFICE, OUR OFFICE HAS READ THAT
04:44:35 LIBERALLY, AND BY LIBERALLY I MEAN IN A BROAD SENSE AND
04:44:39 SAID, WELL, SINCE PEOPLE THAT ARE EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN,
04:44:44 HAVE AUTHORITY EQUAL TO OR GREATER THAN A DEPARTMENT HEAD
04:44:48 HAVE TO BE APPOINTED BY COUNCIL, AND SINCE DEPARTMENT HEADS
04:44:50 HAVE TO LIVE IN THE CITY, THEN ANYONE THAT HAS TO BE
04:44:53 APPOINTED SHALL ALSO HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT.
04:44:56 WE WERE TRYING TO INTERPRET THAT IN THE SPIRIT WE THOUGHT
04:45:01 CITY COUNCIL WANTED US TO GO, AND ONE OF THE EASIEST WAYS TO
04:45:07 SHRINK THE NUMBER IS STOP LOOKING AT IT THAT WAY AND SAY
04:45:10 ONLY THOSE INDIVIDUALS NAMED IN 6.01 OF THE CHARTER, AND
04:45:14 THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY DEPARTMENT HEADS SHOULD HAVE
04:45:18 TO MEET THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS OF 6.01.
04:45:23 THAT CAN STILL GET A LITTLE WOBBLY IN THE SENSE THAT WE HAVE
04:45:31 A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY AND WE HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES
04:45:34 OF DEPARTMENTS, AND SO ARE VERY LARGE DEPARTMENTS, SOME ARE
04:45:38 DEPARTMENTS OF A FEW PEOPLE.
04:45:40 SO THEN YOU GET TO THE QUESTION OF, WELL, IF SOMEONE IS THE
04:45:44 HEAD OF A DEPARTMENT OF TWO OR THREE PEOPLE, YES, THE HEAD
04:45:48 OF THAT DEPARTMENT, BUT ARE THEY REALLY THE TYPE OF
04:45:50 DEPARTMENT HEAD THAT THIS RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT WAS INTENDED
04:45:56 TO APPLY TO?
04:45:57 AND LET ME PAUSE FOR A MINUTE, SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
04:46:01 ANCIENT HISTORY.
04:46:03 YOU WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THE HISTORY, AND I THINK
04:46:06 MANY OF YOU KNOW I WORKED HERE DURING THE GRECO
04:46:09 ADMINISTRATION.
04:46:09 I DON'T KNOW, THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT WERE IN EFFECT, BUT
04:46:12 I DON'T HONESTLY KNOW THAT ANYONE PAID PARTICULAR ATTENTION
04:46:17 TO THEM.
04:46:19 SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER EVERYONE WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE
04:46:22 LIVING IN THE CITY WAS LIVING IN THE CITY.
04:46:24 I JUST DON'T REALLY KNOW.
04:46:25 MAYBE CHARLIE KNOWS.
04:46:29 WHEN MAYOR IORIO WAS IN OFFICE, THERE WAS A "TAMPA BAY
04:46:34 TIMES" STORY AT THE TIME ABOUT A PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT HEAD
04:46:39 WHO WASN'T LIVING IN THE CITY.
04:46:43 I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAME OF IT.
04:46:45 THAT PERSON CONTINUED IN HER JOB, AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING
04:46:47 DIDN'T MOVE INTO THE CITY.
04:46:50 WHEN MAYOR BUCKHORN WAS MAYOR, THERE WAS ANOTHER INCIDENT
04:46:53 WHERE THERE WAS REPORTING ABOUT ANOTHER HIGH LEVEL EMPLOYEE
04:47:00 WHO WASN'T LIVING IN THE CITY.
04:47:02 I BELIEVE THAT WAS THE ONE WHERE HE CHANGED THE TITLE TO AN
04:47:06 INTERIM DIRECTOR TO AVOID THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
04:47:11 AND THOSE WERE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON
04:47:13 FOR YEARS, AND THAT WAS WHY THOSE OF YOU WHO SAT ON THE
04:47:17 CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION WITH MYSELF AND OTHER ITSELF, WE
04:47:22 TALKED ABOUT THIS, AND WE DEBATED, HAS THE TIME FOR THE
04:47:26 RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS COME AND GONE?
04:47:29 IT'S AN INTENSIVE PLACE TO LIVE, IT MAKES IT MUCH HARDER TO
04:47:33 RECRUIT GOOD EMPLOYEES.
04:47:37 IS SOMEONE IN HUNTER'S GREEN ACTUALLY THAT MUCH MORE
04:47:40 CONNECTED THAN SOMEONE IN BRANDON?
04:47:42 ALL THOSE ISSUES.
04:47:43 AND KIND OF THE COMPROMISE WE REACHED AT THE CHARTER REVIEW
04:47:46 COMMISSION BACK IN 2018-19 WAS WE KEPT THE RESIDENCY
04:47:51 REQUIREMENTS BUT WE ADDED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET
04:47:54 THE THREE YEARS WORTH OF WAIVERS.
04:47:58 SO THAT'S KIND OF JUST THE BACKGROUND.
04:47:59 SO I GUESS I'M NOT ADVOCATING TODAY.
04:48:03 I'M KIND OF ASKING COUNCIL WHAT DIRECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO
04:48:07 GO.
04:48:10 AGAIN, IF THE GOAL IS -- IF THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS,
04:48:15 IF YOU WILL, IF WE JUST STRICTLY LOOK AT THE CHARTER AND SAY
04:48:23 MAYBE ONLY THE DEPARTMENT HEADS NAMED IN THE CHARTER WERE
04:48:25 THE ONES INTENDED TO BE REQUIRED TO LIVE IN THE CITY, MAYBE
04:48:30 BY EXECUTIVE ORDER, THE MAYOR REDEFINES THE DIFFERENT TYPES
04:48:34 OF DEPARTMENTS AND KITES WHICH ONES SHOULD HAVE TO BE
04:48:38 RESIDENTS, AND THEN CITY COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THAT
04:48:43 BY A TWO-THIRDS VOTE BECAUSE WHEN THE MAYOR DOES ANYTHING
04:48:47 CHAINING THE NAMES OR REORGANIZATION OF DEPARTMENTS, IT HAS
04:48:50 TO COME TO COUNCIL.
04:48:53 OR THE CLEANEST AND NEATEST WOULD BE TO DO A QUICK CHARTER
04:48:58 AMENDMENT, IF THAT WAS THE WISH OF COUNCIL.
04:49:00 BUT WITH THAT, I WILL STOP AND AGAIN THIS WAS, I THINK,
04:49:06 INTENDED TO BE YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO
04:49:08 DO WITH THIS.
04:49:09 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCIL.
04:49:13 >>BILL CARLSON: LAST YEAR WHEN WE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS
04:49:17 ABOUT CHARTER AMENDMENTS MS. ZELMAN SAID HER PREFERENCE WAS
04:49:20 NOT TO AMEND THE CHARTER BECAUSE IT'S SACRED GROUND AND WE
04:49:24 SHOULD CREATE ORDINANCES SO IN THIS CASE THAT'S MY
04:49:27 SUGGESTION.
04:49:29 I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS TRIED TO
04:49:33 GO DEEP ON THIS, BUT I THINK THE TITLES CHANGE, AND I WISH
04:49:38 THERE WAS SOME WAY THAT WE BY ORDINANCE OR BY RESOLUTION
04:49:42 COULD JUST DEFINE OR AGREE TO DEFINE WHAT THE MAYOR, WHO IS
04:49:46 REQUIRED TO DO THIS, I BELIEVE STRONGLY IN THESE RESIDENCY
04:49:52 REQUIREMENTS.
04:49:52 I FOUGHT FOR THEM ON THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION THE
04:49:56 VOTERS APPROVED THREE TIMES, UNDER THE LAST ADMINISTRATION I
04:49:59 BELIEVE RESULTED IN A LAWSUIT FROM THE PUBLIC, AND IT WAS
04:50:03 VERY EMBARRASSING FOR THE INDIVIDUAL, IT WAS AN UNNECESSARY
04:50:06 FIGHT AND WE CHANGED THE CHARTER TO ADAPT BECAUSE OF THAT.
04:50:09 MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE DEFINE IT AS DIRECTOR REPORTS
04:50:15 TO THE MAYOR.
04:50:16 RIGHT NOW THIS MAYOR CALLS THEM ADMINISTRATORS.
04:50:19 I THINK WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT A TITLE ON IT WHO DIRECT
04:50:24 REPORTS TO THE MAYOR.
04:50:24 I'M SORRY TO HAVE TO THROW OUT MAINS, BUT CEA IS AN
04:50:29 ADMINISTERED.
04:50:31 WE APPROVED TONY MULKEY WHO IS HEAD OF PARKS AND YOU CAN
04:50:34 TECHNICALLY CALL AT DEPARTMENT BUT THE WAY THIS MAYOR HAS
04:50:37 STRUCTURED THINGS, SHE HAS SIX OR EIGHT DIRECT REPORTS.
04:50:40 AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO GO ONE OR TWO LEVELS
04:50:43 DOWN BLOW THAT.
04:50:43 I THINK THE DIRECT REPORTS TO THE MAYOR ARE FINE, BUT THAT
04:50:47 WE DON'T HAVE TO ADD ANY ADDITIONAL TO THAT.
04:50:50 SO I WISH WHETHER IT'S ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION THAT WE WOULD
04:50:54 MORE NARROWLY DEFINE IT.
04:50:56 THANK YOU.
04:50:57 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: CAN I RESPOND TO THE ONE THING?
04:50:59 BECAUSE YOU SAID WHEN WHAT I SAID AT THE TIME WE WERE HAVING
04:51:02 THE CHARTER DEBATE LAST TIME AND I DO BELIEVE THE CHARTER IS
04:51:05 A SACRED DOCUMENT, AT THIS TIME CITY'S CONSTITUTION, AND THE
04:51:09 CONCERN WAS THE WAY IN WHICH THAT LAST CHARTER AMENDMENT
04:51:13 PROCESS HAPPENED, WHERE THINGS WERE JUST LITERALLY THE
04:51:17 MORNING OF THE WORKSHOP, 20 OF THEM, 20 AMENDMENTS --
04:51:23 >>BILL CARLSON: THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE CITY STAFF DELAYED
04:51:26 AND DELAYED AND DELAYED.
04:51:27 I DON'T WANT TO GO INTO ALL OF THAT.
04:51:29 >> LET'S STICK ON THIS CONVERSATION.
04:51:37 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I WOULD SAY ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, I
04:51:39 FEEL IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT NOW OVER AN OVER AGAIN FOR YEARS
04:51:42 SO I DON'T THINK IT -- SHOULD YOU WISH TO DO A CHARTER
04:51:46 AMENDMENT, I DON'T NOTICE THAT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING HASTY
04:51:49 THAT YOU ARE DOING WITHOUT FORETHOUGHT, IF WE HAVE BEEN
04:51:51 TALKING ABOUT IT.
04:51:52 AGAIN, SINCE 2018.
04:51:54 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S MOVE ON.
04:51:55 SO IT'S MY TURN.
04:51:57 I WANT TO BE SAY THAT I AM PROBABLY IN THE MINORITY ON THIS
04:52:00 ISSUE, BUT IT'S MY OBSERVATION SINCE BEING ELECTED, AS AN
04:52:07 ACTIVE CITIZEN IN TAMPA, IF YOU KEEP DOING THE SAME THING
04:52:10 OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND EXPECT DIFFERENT RESULTS, WE ALL
04:52:13 KNOW WHAT YOU ARE.
04:52:15 AND WHAT WE HAVE DONE, I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT OF THIS, BUT
04:52:20 THE REALITY IS WE ROUTINELY GRANT WAIVERS, ROUTINELY, OR WE
04:52:27 FORCE THESE COVERED STAFF POSITIONS TO BE THINGS LIKE GET AN
04:52:30 APARTMENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, YOU KNOW, AND ADD EXPENSES,
04:52:34 AND QUITE HONESTLY, OUR ATTORNEY DOESN'T LIVE IN THE CITY OF
04:52:38 TAMPA, AND HE REPRESENTS US WELL, AND HE DOESN'T LIVE -- AND
04:52:43 I THINK OUR ATTORNEY, ATTORNEY ZELMAN STATED ABOUT THE
04:52:48 HUNTER'S GREEN VERSUS BRANDON.
04:52:51 I WOULD SAY HUNTER'S GREEN VERSUS CARROLLWOOD, OR SOMETHING
04:52:54 THAT'S EVEN CLOSER, INSTEAD OF IN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE
04:52:57 PERSON THAT LIVES IN THIS MARKET AND DRIVES DALE MABRY OR
04:53:00 DRIVES HOWARD OR 275, THEY EXPERIENCE THE -- THEY HAVE THE
04:53:05 SAME EXPERIENCE IN THE CITY AS THE REST OF US.
04:53:08 SO AS I SAY, THE BEST INTENT AS, I AND THE CITY OF TAMPA,
04:53:16 IT'S NOT A COMPACT CITY, WE ARE AN ODDLY SHAPED LINEAR CITY
04:53:23 THAT STRETCHES FROM MacDILL UP TO THE NORTHEAST IN PASCO
04:53:27 COUNTY IN A REALLY WEIRD KIND OF WAY, SIPHONING THEM TO USF
04:53:32 AND EXPANDING AGAIN.
04:53:33 SO THESE BOUNDARIES ARE NOT -- I DON'T REALLY CAPTURE A
04:53:38 COMMUNITY, THEY JUST CAPTURE ARBITRARY LINES REALLY, NOT A
04:53:42 COMMUNITY IN THE SENSE OF YOUR EXPERIENCED IN HOW YOU CAN
04:53:45 REPRESENT THE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU REPRESENT, AND I AM
04:53:48 VERY -- AND WE HAVE JUST SEEN SOME TURNOVERS IN THE CITY OF
04:53:52 TAMPA THAT WE EXPERIENCING.
04:53:55 I AM CONCERNED ABOUT RECRUITMENT, HOW DIFFICULT IT IS IN
04:53:59 THIS COMPETITIVE ENVIRONMENT TO RECRUIT TALENTED FOLKS WITH
04:54:05 THIS KIND OF, ARE WE ELIMINATING PEOPLE THAT MAYBE WOULD
04:54:10 SERVE THE PEOPLE OF TAMPA WELL BY HAVING THIS REQUIREMENT?
04:54:16 SO I AM WILLING TO SIDE WITH MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S
04:54:22 TIME HAS COME AND GONE AND AS RECRUIT PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF
04:54:25 TAMPA WE LOOK FOR THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST REGARDLESS OF WHICH
04:54:29 SIDE OF THE STREET THEY LIVE ON.
04:54:30 >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU, CHAIR.
04:54:37 I DO LIKE THE FACT THAT HIGH LEVEL EMPLOYEES LIVE WITHIN
04:54:41 CITY LIMITS.
04:54:43 I READ AN ARTICLE A LONG, LONG TIME AGO WHERE ALMOST THE
04:54:47 ENTIRE POLICE FORCE LIVED IN THE SUBURBS BUT THEY WERE
04:54:51 POLICING INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SO THERE WERE PATHWAYS
04:54:58 CREATED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LIVE WHERE THEY WORK.
04:55:01 AND THIS IS WITH HIGH LEVEL STAFF, LIVING WITHIN THE CITY
04:55:05 LIMITS IS REASONABLE.
04:55:07 I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT HAS TO BE AT A LEVEL BELOW THE
04:55:10 PRIMARY EXECUTIVE LEVEL, BECAUSE IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO
04:55:16 LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, BUT MAYBE WITHIN HILLSBOROUGH
04:55:18 COUNTY, OR MAYBE WE LISTED WE PREFER THAT YOU LIVE IN THE
04:55:23 CITY, BUT IT'S NOT A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT.
04:55:28 AND I JUST WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
04:55:30 I DON'T WANT TO PROLONG IF CONVERSATION, BUT THANK YOU.
04:55:33 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
04:55:35 AGAIN, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR, THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST?
04:55:38 IT MIGHT BE ONE HALF BLOCK OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
04:55:42 AND THEY HAVE TO RENT AN APARTMENT?
04:55:47 ARE WE TELLING THE PEOPLE, COME WHEN WE NEED YOU BUT WE
04:55:51 DON'T WANT YOU UNLESS YOU LIVE IN THE CITY.
04:55:53 THE CITY CERTAINLY HAS TO HAVE THE ELECTED OFFICIAL LIVE IN
04:55:56 THE CITY, AND WHEN YOU ARE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, YOU ARE IN
04:56:01 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
04:56:01 BUT IF YOU ARE IN HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, YOU CAN'T WORK IN THE
04:56:03 CITY OF TAMPA AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD.
04:56:06 THAT'S REAL CLOSE.
04:56:08 IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, YOU CAN WORK IN
04:56:11 HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
04:56:12 BUT IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY --IF YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTY AND
04:56:18 YOU WANT A JOB IN THE CITY AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD YOU HAVE TO
04:56:20 RENT IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OR BUY A HOUSE OR SOMETHING.
04:56:22 THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
04:56:23 SO YOU REALLY GET INTO THE BEST AND THE BRIGHTEST.
04:56:26 BUT LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT, WE ARE ONLY FOOLING OURSELVES IN
04:56:32 MY MIND.
04:56:32 I MEAN, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR WHERE TO GO, A PLACE TO LIVE,
04:56:38 A PLACE TO RAISE THEIR FAMILY, EDUCATION WISE.
04:56:41 WE DIDN'T USED TO BE THIS WAY.
04:56:43 WE ARE NOW.
04:56:43 SO YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE APPLICANTS COMING IN, AS MUCH
04:56:48 QUALIFIED AS THE ONE YOU HAVE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA OR
04:56:50 BETTER.
04:56:50 SO WE DON'T HAVE A DECISION TO MAKE.
04:56:53 WE HAVE A DECISION IF IT STAYS STATUS QUO, THE POT IS THIS
04:56:59 BIG. IF NOT THE POT GROWS.
04:57:02 SO WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IS THAT WE ARE IN ESSENCE, AND I
04:57:07 AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, THERE HAS TO BE SOME CHANGE
04:57:13 SOMEWHERE BECAUSE WE ARE NOT GETTING THE BEST AND THE
04:57:15 BRIGHTEST.
04:57:16 AND REGARDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, I WOULD SAY AT LEAST
04:57:18 HALF OF THEM LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.
04:57:20 AND YOU DON'T BLAME THEM IN A WAY.
04:57:23 IF THEY WORK HERE, THEY DO A GOOD JOB, THEN CAN'T AFFORD TO
04:57:27 LIVE IN THE CITY.
04:57:27 SO THAT'S HOW IT IS.
04:57:29 WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THESE THINGS, SOCIETY CHANGES, PEOPLE
04:57:32 CHANGE, IDEAS CHANGE.
04:57:36 WHAT DO WE HAVE OTHER THAN HORSE AND BUGGY AND A CAR?
04:57:40 YOU AREN'T GOING TO GET FROM HERE IN ODESSA IN 15 MINUTES,
04:57:44 I'LL TELL YOU THAT.
04:57:45 THERE IS NO TRANSPORTATION TO SPEAK OF.
04:57:46 THERE'S NO RAIL.
04:57:47 THERE'S NOTHING TO SPEAK OF.
04:57:49 SO WE HAD THAT ONCE.
04:57:50 AND GENERAL MOTORS TOOK IT AWAY WHEN THEY SAID THE BUSES
04:57:53 WERE BETTER THAN THE STREETCAR.
04:57:55 AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN THE FIFTIES AND THE TRACKS
04:57:58 WOULDN'T UP IN THE MID SIXTIES.
04:58:01 SEPTEMBER WE DON'T EACH HAVE THE TRACKS ANYMORE.
04:58:04 SO IT'S MAKING IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND WHOEVER IS
04:58:08 QUALIFIED TO QUALIFY BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE EYE
04:58:11 ANOTHER HOUSE, THEY ARE HAPPY WHERE THEY ARE AT.
04:58:13 THAT'S ALL.
04:58:14 THANK YOU.
04:58:14 >>LUIS VIERA: AND I TEND TO AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN
04:58:19 CLENDENIN.
04:58:20 THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU HEAR ABOUT AND YOU GO,
04:58:22 WELL, OF COURSE I SUPPORT THIS, OF COURSE I SUPPORT THIS.
04:58:25 WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, JUST A CONSERVATIVE LEVEL OF
04:58:29 SCRUTINY, AND I THINK HERE IS WHY, NUMBER ONE AS PEOPLE HAVE
04:58:36 SAID, WE GRANT WAIVERS ALL THE TIME.
04:58:38 ALL THE TIME.
04:58:39 IT'S TOOTHLESS.
04:58:40 NUMBER TWO IS, I AM WANT TO SAY FORCE PEOPLE, A LOT OF
04:58:45 PEOPLE WILL GO AND GET THESE 600 SQUARE FOOT APARTMENTS
04:58:48 SOMEWHERE WITHIN THE CITY, PAY 1500 WHATEVER A MONTH, AND A
04:58:53 VERY SORRY LAME ATTEMPT TO CIRCUMVENT WHEN THEY LIVE IN
04:58:57 CARROLLWOOD OR PASCO COUNTY OR WHATEVER.
04:59:01 THE DESIRED EFFECT, RIGHT?
04:59:03 IT DOESN'T REALLY ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING FOR US.
04:59:05 AND ALL IT DOES IS TAX AND WASTE OUR TIME WITH WAIVERS THAT
04:59:13 ARE -- WE JUST LOAD THE PERSON, RIGHT?
04:59:17 AND THEN IT MAKES MORE OF A BURDEN TO HIRING PEOPLE.
04:59:20 I MEAN, WE JUST LOST IN THE CITY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF
04:59:23 MONTHS THREE AMAZING PEOPLE, THREE OF THE BEST PUBLIC
04:59:26 SERVANTS I HAVE EVER SEEN, WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL FOLKS, YOU
04:59:29 NOTICE.
04:59:29 AND WHEN IT COMES TO HIRING PEOPLE FOR WHOM THIS WOULD BE
04:59:35 APPLICABLE, THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, WE WANT TO FIND
04:59:37 PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST THE BEST, AND I THINK PUTTING SOMETHING
04:59:41 LIKE THAT ON IS JUST ARBITRARY, AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS
04:59:45 WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE ASKED ME A YEAR AGO, OF COURSE WE HAVE
04:59:47 TO DO THAT, IT MAKES SENSE.
04:59:49 NO, IT DOESN'T, APPLYING A LEVEL OF SCRUTINY DOESN'T STAND
04:59:54 UP TO ME.
04:59:55 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE
05:00:01 BROUGHT UP, AND I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF
05:00:03 AS A CONCEPT TO ADDRESS THE -- YOU JUST TALKED WITH OUR
05:00:09 POLICE OFFICERS AND OTHER FOLKS THIS DOES NOT APPLY TO, BUT
05:00:12 APPLIES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, IS PERHAPS THE CITY SHOULD BE
05:00:15 LOOKING ACROSS THE BOARD IN ALLOWANCES FOR OUR EMPLOYEES
05:00:18 THAT LIVE IN THE CITY TO INCENTIVIZE, THE CARROT VERSUS THE
05:00:25 STICK FOR PEOPLE STOW LIVE IN THE CITY AND MAYBE ENCOURAGE
05:00:27 OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND FIREFIGHTERS AND ALL OF OUR
05:00:30 ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF TO LIVE IN THE CITY, AND THIS IS JUST A
05:00:35 CONCEPT.
05:00:35 >>BILL CARLSON: LIKE I SAID, THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE
05:00:39 VOTERS THREE TIMES.
05:00:40 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE MADE WAS TO GIVE I THINK IT'S TWO
05:00:44 YEARS GRACE PERIOD, AND THAT'S IT.
05:00:46 BECAUSE THE RULE WAS FLAGRANTLY IGNORED BEFORE.
05:00:50 BUT NOW WE HAVE A SET RULE.
05:00:53 THE QUESTION HERE IS HOW DO WE DEFINE IT?
05:00:57 EVEN IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A CHARTER AMENDMENT, THAT STILL HAS
05:01:00 TO BE APPROVED BY VOTERS, AND MAY NOT BE, BUT IF IT IS, THE
05:01:04 SOONEST WE COULD IMPLEMENT IT WOULD BE DECEMBER ANYWAY.
05:01:07 SO RIGHT NOW WE STILL HAVE THE RULE.
05:01:09 IF SOMEBODY IS USING SOMEBODY ELSE'S HOUSE FOR A TEMPORARY
05:01:12 SPACE, THAT MEANS THEY ARE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH ON THE
05:01:15 FORM.
05:01:16 AND THEY SHOULD BE TERMINATED FOR NOT TELLING THE TRUTH.
05:01:19 IT CLEARLY SAYS YOU HAVE TO BE A RESIDENT AND A VOTER IN THE
05:01:22 CITY OF TAMPA.
05:01:23 AND IF THERE'S PROOF THAT SOMEBODY IS NOT EITHER OF THOSE
05:01:27 THINGS, THEN THEY ARE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH IF THEY HAVE
05:01:30 ALREADY SAID THEY WILL.
05:01:31 BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY
05:01:34 BRING BACK AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION, PICK THE DATE, TO
05:01:40 NARROWLY DEFINE THE CRITERIA BY 6.01, THAT THE DEPARTMENT
05:01:47 HEADS WOULD EQUAL -- WOULD BE DEFINED AS THE PEOPLE, THE
05:01:52 ADMINISTRATORS WHO DIRECTLY REPORT TO THE MAYOR UNDER THE
05:01:55 CURRENT STRUCTURE.
05:01:56 >> SECOND.
05:01:57 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER
05:02:00 HURTAK.
05:02:01 ANYTHING ELSE?
05:02:02 >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO WAS MAKE
05:02:05 THAT SIMILAR MOTION BECAUSE LISTENING TO EVERYBODY I TEND TO
05:02:08 AGREE THAT AMENDING THE CHART IS -- CHARTER IS A VERY
05:02:18 DIFFICULT ISSUE AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER WILL BE,
05:02:21 BUT HERE IF WE CAN SIMPLY CREATE AN ORDINANCE AND SPECIFY
05:02:29 WHICH OFFICERS, I THINK THAT HELPS.
05:02:31 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: JUST TO CLARIFY, THE PROCESS WOULD BE,
05:02:40 WELL, CITY COUNCIL COULD ADOPT A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE
05:02:42 MAYOR TO REDEFINE BY EXECUTIVE ORDER THE ORGANIZATIONAL
05:02:49 STRUCTURE AND THOSE TO WHICH THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS
05:02:53 WOULD APPLY, AND THEN THAT COULD COME BACK TO YOU TO BE
05:02:57 APPROVED BY A TWO-THIRDS VOTE OF COUNCIL.
05:03:00 >>BILL CARLSON: WE ARE NOT ASKING TO DELETE A STRUCTURE.
05:03:04 IF SHE DOESN'T HAVE SOMETHING CALLED A DEPARTMENT HEAD, THEN
05:03:11 PEOPLE CALLED ADMINISTRATORS, NOT DEPARTMENT HEADS, SO WHAT
05:03:13 WE ARE SIMPLY DOING IS DEFINING WHO QUALIFIES MER 6.01 AND
05:03:20 MAYBE YOU WANT TO DO 6.02 AS WELL.
05:03:22 SHOULDN'T WE PASS A RESOLUTION REQUESTING HER TO DO THAT,
05:03:26 AND THEN SHE SENDS US AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, AND THEN WE CAN A
05:03:30 IMPROVE THAT IF WE WANT?
05:03:32 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YES, I GUESS THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE
05:03:36 CHARTER REFERS TO DEPARTMENT HEADS.
05:03:39 SO THAT'S WHERE THE MAYOR HAS TO SORT OF REFRAIN THE
05:03:45 DEPARTMENT HEADS --
05:03:47 >>BILL CARLSON: HOW ABOUT IF I DO THIS?
05:03:50 INSTEAD OF ASKING FOR AN ORDINANCE OR RESOLUTION I WOULD
05:03:52 LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE VOTE TODAY TO ASK THE MAYOR TO
05:03:56 DEFINE WHO MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF 6.01 AND 6.02 AS HER
05:04:05 DIRECT REPORTS UNDER THE CURRENT STRUCTURE.
05:04:08 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I THINK THE CLEANER WAY TO MAKE THAT
05:04:11 MOTION WOULD BE ASKING THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO COME BACK TO
05:04:14 YOU WITH THE APPROPRIATE MEANS WITH WHICH THE MAYOR CAN
05:04:19 REFRAME AND THE CITY COUNCIL CAN APPROVE THE APPLICATION OF
05:04:24 6.01 TO BE LIMITED TO ONLY THOSE THAT ARE HER DIRECT
05:04:29 REPORT --
05:04:30 >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, SO I MOVE THAT TO COME BACK -- DOES
05:04:32 IT HAVE TO BE AUGUST 22ND IS THE ONLY -- AUGUST 1?
05:04:39 I MAKE THAT MOTION TO COME BACK ON AUGUST 1, IF THAT'S OKAY.
05:04:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE STILL A SECOND ON THAT?
05:04:45 COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WITH THE SECOND.
05:04:47 COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN AND THEN MIRANDA.
05:04:48 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AFTER THE DISPOSITION OF THIS, BECAUSE I
05:04:51 AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK THAT THE CHARTER ISSUE WOULD
05:04:54 BE -- I DON'T SEE THE HARM IN GOING 24 BUT AFTER THIS IS
05:05:00 RESOLVED I WILL PROBABLY INTRODUCE A RESOLUTION ASKING LEGAL
05:05:03 STAFF TO COME FORWARD WITH A CHARTER AMENDMENT TO RECTIFY
05:05:07 THE SITUATION AS WELL.
05:05:09 OR I COULD DO IT AFTER.
05:05:13 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WE WOULD NEED TO DO IT TODAY.
05:05:17 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AFTER THIS MOTION IS DONE, BECAUSE AGAIN,
05:05:22 I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, A CHARTER AMENDMENT IS A
05:05:26 MAYBE.
05:05:28 JUST IN CASE THE CHARTER AMENDMENT SO WE GET THIS THROUGH
05:05:31 AND IT FACE, WE STILL HAVE THIS TO FALL BACK ON, SO THIS
05:05:35 MOTION ON THE FLOOR, AND THEN MY PLAN IS TO INTRODUCE
05:05:40 ANOTHER MOTION.
05:05:41 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I THINK FIRST WE HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT A
05:05:44 RESIDENCY IS.
05:05:45 IF SOMEONE COMES IN THE CITY AND HAS A JOB HERE AND THAT
05:05:48 PERSON HAS A WATER BILL, HAS AN ELECTRIC BILL, IS PAYING
05:05:51 RENT AND REGISTERED TO VOTE HERE, HOW CAN YOU TELL THEM THEY
05:05:54 ARE NOT A RESIDENT OR SHE'S NOT A RESIDENT?
05:05:57 SO YOU HAVE TO DEFINE WHAT IT IS.
05:06:00 NOBODY DEFINES IT.
05:06:02 SO THERE IS NO OPERATIONAL THING WHAT A RESIDENT IS.
05:06:08 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: I THINK THE REQUIREMENT THAT SOMEONE BE A
05:06:16 RESIDENT AND BE REGISTERED TO VOTE IN THE CITY INCORPORATES
05:06:21 WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
05:06:22 >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IT'S GOT TO BE CODIFIED.
05:06:27 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN ADDRESS IN THE CITY
05:06:30 THAT YOU LIVE IN TO VOTE.
05:06:32 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND BY HURTAK.
05:06:35 ALL IN FAVOR?
05:06:36 ANY OPPOSED?
05:06:36 >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I ASK ONE QUESTION RELATED TO IT
05:06:39 BEFORE YOU GET TO THE NEXT MOTION?
05:06:42 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
05:06:43 >>BILL CARLSON: ANDREA, COULD YOU LOOK AT THE LIST OF
05:06:45 PEOPLE WHO -- WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO HIT
05:06:51 THE END OF THEIR SECOND YEAR.
05:06:53 SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO IS GOING TO HIT THE END OF THEIR
05:06:55 SECOND YEAR BEFORE AUGUST WHO IS BELOW THE ADMINISTRATOR
05:07:00 LEVEL, WE SHOULD MAYBE HAVE --
05:07:04 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: SO YOU ACTUALLY ALLOW A TOTAL OF THREE
05:07:08 WAIVERS, ONE WAIVER PLUS TWO.
05:07:10 >>BILL CARLSON: IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO IS GOING EXPIRE, IF
05:07:13 THE TERM IS GOING TO EXPIRE BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME WE VOTE
05:07:17 ON THIS AND THE MAYOR APPROVES IT, MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK AT
05:07:22 IT SEPARATELY.
05:07:22 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REQUEST
05:07:26 LEGAL COME BACK, REPORT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A PROPOSED
05:07:29 CHARTER AMENDMENT ABOLISHING THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS.
05:07:34 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH A SECOND FROM COUNCILMEMBER VIERA.
05:07:39 ANY DISCUSSION?
05:07:40 ANY OPPOSED?
05:07:43 >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH CARLSON VOTING NO.
05:07:45 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: WHEN YOU SAY ABOLISH, I'M ASSUMING YOU
05:07:48 STILL WANT THE MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
05:07:52 DO YOU WANT CITY CLERK, CITY ATTORNEY, CHIEF FINANCIAL
05:07:55 OFFICER, CHIEF OF POLICE?
05:08:00 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EXCLUDING ELECTED OFFICIALS.
05:08:03 >>ANDREA ZELMAN: YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS
05:08:05 BUT ALL THE OTHER STAFF TAKE OUT.
05:08:07 >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
05:08:08 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:08:09 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. ZELMAN.
05:08:11 MR. SHELBY HAS REQUESTED TO GO LAST.
05:08:14 SO WE ARE GOING TO PUSH HIM BACK
05:08:24 MR. MULKEY LIKES TO WAIT.
05:08:27 IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO BRINGING UP THE SULPHUR SPRINGS?
05:08:31 MR. MULKEY, I NOTICE YOU HAVE BEEN HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE.
05:08:34 THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
05:08:37 COME ON UP.
05:08:38 >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
05:08:45 TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
05:08:48 GLAD TO BE HERE TO PROVIDE --
05:08:59 >> YOU PROBABLY SHOULD ASK FOR LEGAL REPRESENTATION BEFORE
05:09:03 YOU ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
05:09:04 [ LAUGHTER ]
05:09:05 >> I'M PLEASED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE SULPHUR SPRINGS
05:09:10 AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
05:09:11 I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN OUT
05:09:14 THERE.
05:09:14 THE CLOSURE OF THE POOL WAS NOT TAKEN LIGHTLY AND WE ARE
05:09:17 WORKING TOWARD SOME SOLUTIONS.
05:09:19 AND I AM HAPPY TO PRESENT A FEW DETAILS THAT I THINK WE HAVE
05:09:26 A PATH.
05:09:27 SO A LOT OF THE ITEMS THAT CAUSE THE POOL CLOSURE WITHIN FOR
05:09:33 A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME.
05:09:34 ONE POSITIVE IS THERE'S BEEN SOME WORK BEING DONE IN THE
05:09:37 BACKGROUND.
05:09:37 THERE'S BEEN SOME FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO THE
05:09:40 PROJECT.
05:09:40 SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A ROAD THAT WE CAN TAKE
05:09:43 TO MOVE THIS FORWARD IF WE CAN FIND A SOLUTION.
05:09:49 BACK IN 2016, THE POOL DECK AT SULPHUR SPRINGS COLLAPSED.
05:09:54 IT'S OF A VERY UNIQUE SPACE OUT THERE NEXT TO THE SPRING,
05:09:57 AND NEXT TO THE WASHOUT THAT LEADS TO THE RIVER, THE
05:10:02 SPILLWAY THAT LEAD TO THE RIVER OVER THERE THAT CAUSED SOME
05:10:05 EROSION UNDERNEATH THE DECK THAT HAD A COLLAPSE.
05:10:08 IT WASN'T A MAJOR COLLAPSE BUT IT WAS ENOUGH THAT IT HAD TO
05:10:11 BE REPAIRED AND HAVE SOME REMEDIATION.
05:10:15 AT THAT TIME THEY ALSO DISCOVERED TO DAMAGE TO THE SEAWALL
05:10:18 THROUGH THAT AREA AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF WATER MOVING THROUGH
05:10:21 THAT SPACE.
05:10:21 IT'S ONE OF OUR MOST UNIQUE POOL LOCATIONS WITHIN THE ENTIRE
05:10:26 CITY.
05:10:26 IT'S ALSO ONE OF OUR BUSIEST, FROM A 2010 REPORT ONWARD, IT
05:10:31 WAS IDENTIFIED AS OUR BUSIEST POOL IN 2010, AND THAT'S
05:10:35 ATTRIBUTED TO WALK-UP TRAFFIC.
05:10:38 PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO ATTEND THE SPACE JUST BY WALKING FROM
05:10:41 THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS IDEAL FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND
05:10:44 PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE TRANSIT OPTIONS AS A LOT OF OTHER
05:10:50 PEOPLE DO.
05:10:51 SO AFTER THAT POOL DECK COLLAPSED, THE CITY ALLOCATED
05:10:57 $600,000 FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO IDENTIFY SOME FIXES FOR
05:11:01 THE SPACE.
05:11:02 AT THAT TIME, WE HAD AN EXPLORATORY INVESTIGATION PERFORMED
05:11:05 ON THE POOL.
05:11:07 IN 2019, FOR 600,000 WAS ALLOCATED IN FISCAL YEAR 20 IS IT.
05:11:13 SO THIS EXPLORATORY INVESTIGATION OF THE POOL WAS UNDERTAKEN
05:11:16 THAT KIND OF REEMPHASIZED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE
05:11:19 SEEING WITH LOSING WATER OF THE POOL SO IT'S NOT JUST THE
05:11:24 SPRING THAT'S AN ISSUE, IT'S ACTUALLY THE GUTTER SYSTEM AND
05:11:27 THE POOL FINISH WITH SOME CRACKS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED WHERE
05:11:30 WATER WAS THROUGH THAT POOL SHELL AND INTO THE GROUND.
05:11:36 IT HAD TO GO SOMEWHERE, AND IF YOU SEE THE PHOTOS YOU CAN
05:11:39 SEE WHERE THE SAND HAS COME THROUGH THAT SEAWALL AND INTO
05:11:42 THE RIVER.
05:11:44 SO WE HAVE KIND OF A ROAD MAP OF THE ISSUES.
05:11:47 WE HAVE SOME ESTIMATES THAT HAVE BEEN UPDATED.
05:11:49 WE ARE CONTINUING TO UPDATE THOSE.
05:11:55 FROM THAT REPORT, WE REQUESTED ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO ADDRESS
05:11:58 THESE ISSUES.
05:11:59 AND IN 2023 WE WERE AWARDED ANOTHER 1.6 MILLION THROUGH THE
05:12:04 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUDGET TO ADDRESS THE WHOLE SITUATION
05:12:09 MORE HOLISTICALLY.
05:12:12 THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AT, WHERE WE HAVE FUNDING, WE
05:12:14 HAVE SOME ANALYSIS, WE ARE DOING FURTHER ANALYSIS, WHICH
05:12:18 LEADS US TO LATE 2023.
05:12:21 IN LATE 2023, WE CLOSED THE POOL TO TRY AND TACKLE SOME OF
05:12:26 THESE ISSUES.
05:12:26 THE MAIN ISSUE ON THIS WAS THE DRAINAGE GRATES IN THE DEEP
05:12:31 END.
05:12:32 POOL WERE NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE VIRGINIA GRAHAM BAKER ACT.
05:12:35 THIS IS AN ACT THAT WAS PASSED FEDERALLY TO REQUIRE ALL
05:12:39 POOLS TO HAVE GRAIN GRADES THAT WERE COMPLIANT SO THAT IT
05:12:43 PREVENTED ENTRAPMENT AND SUCTION CHILDREN OR USERS OF THE
05:12:49 POOL.
05:12:50 SO THE GRATES ORIGINALLY PUT IN WERE COMPLIANT, BUT THEY
05:12:54 WEREN'T SECURED WELL ENOUGH BECAUSE THEY WERE AFTER-MARKET
05:12:59 THAT WERE KIND OF BOLTED IN SO THEY NEEDED A BETTER FIX.
05:13:03 THAT FIX REQUIRED DRAINAGE OF THE POOL.
05:13:06 WE KNOW THERE'S WATER IN THE GROUND.
05:13:07 WE KNOW THERE'S PRESSURE FROM THE SPRING THERE.
05:13:10 WE KNOW THERE'S VOIDS.
05:13:11 AND WE WERE VERY NERVOUS TO DRAIN THAT POOL.
05:13:14 WE WERE ABLE TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DRAINING
05:13:18 OF THE POOL, IT HASN'T CRACKED, IT HASN'T HAD ANY MAJOR
05:13:22 ISSUES, BUT ONCE WE DRAIN THAT POOL AND REMOVE THOSE GRATES
05:13:26 WE FIND OUT THAT WATER WAS COMING UP FROM THE GROUND INTO
05:13:29 THE POOL.
05:13:29 IT LOOKS LIKE A GARDEN HOSE.
05:13:34 WE HAD TO PUT PUMPS IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POOL DIDN'T
05:13:36 FILL UP WITH THE WATER.
05:13:38 GIVEN THE FLOW AND THE PRESSURE OF THAT WATER, WE SUSPECTED
05:13:41 SPRING WATER.
05:13:43 THAT'S FLOWING THROUGH WHATEVER CHANNELS UNDERGROUND.
05:13:46 WITH THAT CONSIDERATION, WE PERFORMED SOME GROUND
05:13:51 PENETRATING RADAR WITHIN THE POOL.
05:13:53 WE HAD PREVIOUSLY DONE SO ON A POOL DECK, BECAUSE IT WAS DRY
05:13:56 AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT ANALYSIS AND FOUND SOME VOIDS IN
05:14:00 SOME AREAS THAT WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE POOL DECK
05:14:03 PREVIOUSLY.
05:14:04 WITHIN THE POOL, WE FOUND A SIGNIFICANT SUSPECTED VOID
05:14:08 THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE POOL, WITH SOME EVIDENCE OF SOME
05:14:11 STRUCTURAL REBAR WARPING WITHIN THE POOL SHELL ITSELF.
05:14:16 WE ARE NOW GOING THROUGH ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS AND CORE
05:14:19 SAMPLES, DOWN STORM DRAINS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND WE HAVE
05:14:24 AN ENGINEER TO GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL ANALYSIS AND WORK
05:14:28 WITH THE FIRMS THAT DID THE STUDY BACK IN 2020, 2019 TIME TO
05:14:33 UPDATE EVERYTHING.
05:14:34 WE ALSO HAD AN ENGINEERING FIRM WORKING ON SOME SPECS FOR
05:14:39 THE SEAWALL AND THE DECK INDEPENDENTLY ON SOME NEW ISSUES
05:14:43 THAT WE DISCOVERED.
05:14:44 WITH THOSE NEW ISSUES, WE ARE HOPING IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS WE
05:14:48 CAN HAVE A ROAD MAP OF WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TO BRING
05:14:51 THE POOL BACK ONLINE.
05:14:53 AGAIN IT'S NOT A SUPER EASY FIX.
05:14:55 WE ARE KIND OF ADDRESSING A POOL BUILT FROM UNDERGROUND UP,
05:15:00 THAT'S NOT TYPICALLY THE IDEAL WAY TO ADDRESS A POOL, BUT IF
05:15:04 WE CAN MITIGATE FOR THE FACTORS OF WHERE THE WATER IS
05:15:07 RUNNING UNDERGROUND, IF IT'S THE LEAKS IN THE POOL, IF IT'S
05:15:10 THE SPRING WATER, IF IT'S SOMETHING ELSE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE
05:15:14 TO ADDRESS THAT.
05:15:17 MIGHT NOT BE A PERFECT FIX BUT IT MIGHT GET US SO WE CAN GET
05:15:21 TO A POSITION OF A LONGER TERM REPLACEMENT, WHICH I THINK AT
05:15:26 SOME POINT THAT HAS TO BE THE DISCUSSION.
05:15:28 BUT FOR NOW WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE TO THE COMMUNITY OF
05:15:31 THE POOL.
05:15:31 WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF PEOPLE WITH WATER SAFETY,
05:15:39 OPPORTUNITY TO COOL DOWN ESPECIALLY WITH THE HEAT THAT WE
05:15:42 HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCING.
05:15:44 SO WE WANT TO HELP FACILITATE THAT.
05:15:46 SO WITH THAT, I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE AN FEW STEPS THAT WE
05:15:49 ARE TAKING STARTING ON SATURDAY.
05:15:54 WE ARE GOING TO START WORKING A SCHEDULE FROM SULPHUR
05:15:58 SPRINGS POOL TO COPELAND POOL.
05:16:01 WE HAD TO WORK THROUGH SO LOGISTICS WITH WAIVERS AND
05:16:05 PERMISSION SLIPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S GOING TO
05:16:07 BE ALL ROLLED OUT HOPEFULLY TOMORROW, AND YOU WILL SEE THAT
05:16:11 START OPERATING ON SATURDAY.
05:16:12 THAT'S GOING TO OPERATE SIX DAYS A WEEK.
05:16:15 SO NOT SEVEN BECAUSE FRIDAY IS WHEN WE DO OUR IN SERVICE
05:16:19 TRAINING AND WE HAVE SOME KIND OF MAINTENANCE THINGS THAT WE
05:16:22 DO OVER AT COPELAND POOL.
05:16:24 SO SATURDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
05:16:27 SO SIX DAYS A WEEK ON THAT.
05:16:29 ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING --
05:16:35 >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE SCHEDULE?
05:16:37 >> SURE.
05:16:37 SO THE SCHEDULE WE HAVE, ON THE WEEKENDS THERE WILL BE TRIPS
05:16:42 AT 1 P.M. AND 3:30 P.M.
05:16:44 WE OFFER OPEN SWIM ON SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS SO THAT
05:16:48 COINCIDES WITH THAT WINDOW OF THE OPEN SLIM.
05:16:51 SO 1 P.M. IT WOULD DEPART SULPHUR SPRINGS, ABOUT A 10-MINUTE
05:16:55 RIDE UP TO COPELAND PARK, WOULD RETURN BACK ABOUT 3 P.M. SO
05:16:59 A COUPLE HOUR WINDOWS.
05:17:00 WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE OF VEHICLES SO WE'LL HAVE SOME
05:17:03 FLEXIBILITY IF NEEDED IF WE HAVE INCREASED DEMAND, WE CAN
05:17:06 CHANGE THESE.
05:17:07 SO WE HAVE STAFF, WE ARE ENGAGING THE STAFF ON LIGHT DUTY,
05:17:12 WE ARE ENGAGING WITH STAFF, WE HAVE ROTATIONS FOR LIFEGUARDS
05:17:18 AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
05:17:19 SO WE ARE BEING REALLY CREATIVE BUT WE ALSO WANT PEOPLE THAT
05:17:24 CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES WITH WAIVERS AND HELP
05:17:26 WITH PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAVE FAMILIES AND DIFFERENT AGE
05:17:29 GROUPS.
05:17:29 SO A LOT OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT WE KIND OF PLAYED OUT
05:17:34 TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE AND PROVIDE GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE.
05:17:37 BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S NOT CONVENIENT.
05:17:40 WE REALIZE THAT BUT WE WANT TO TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN,
05:17:43 WHEN WE TAKE AWAY A PUBLIC AMENITY WE WANT TO PROVIDE
05:17:46 OPPORTUNITY, AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T TAKE IT AWAY FOR TOO
05:17:50 LONG.
05:17:50 ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE WORKING WITH HART, SO WE FIRST REACHED
05:17:54 OUT TO HART, AND SAID, HEY, WHERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE,
05:17:58 KNOW IT JUST FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS, NOT JUST FOR COPELAND POOL
05:18:02 BUT CITY-WIDE.
05:18:03 WHERE CAN WE PROMOTE PUBLIC TRANSIT, WATER SAFETY, AND
05:18:08 OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO USE THE POOLS?
05:18:10 WE WANT TO PUT PEOPLE THROUGH THE DOORS AND GET PEOPLE IN
05:18:12 THE WALLET AND GET THEM TRAINED, SWIM LESSONS AND THINGS
05:18:16 LIKE THAT.
05:18:17 SO WE ARE WORKING WITH HART TO PROMOTE -- WE DON'T
05:18:20 NECESSARILY HAVE DOOR TO DOOR SERVICE, BUT AT TIMES SOMEBODY
05:18:23 IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS NEIGHBORHOOD OR ON THE WEST SIDE OF
05:18:25 THE FREEWAY MIGHT HAVE A MORE DIRECT PATH TO A POOL FROM
05:18:29 THEIR HOME.
05:18:30 SO WE ARE WORKING WITH HART TO GET ALL THE MAPS, WHAT ARE
05:18:33 THE BEST ROUTES TO THE POOLS FROM WHEREVER YOU LIVE WITHIN
05:18:36 THE CITY.
05:18:37 IT'S NOT JUST SULPHUR SPRINGS, NOT JUST COPELAND PARK, BUT
05:18:41 BOBBY HICKS, INNER BAY, LORETTA INGRAHAM, IT'S ALL OUR
05:18:45 POOLS, ALSO OUR SPLASH PADS FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO COOL DOWN
05:18:48 IN THE
05:18:50 HOT SUMMER WEATHER.
05:18:51 WITH THIS IF YOU SHOW OUR POOLS A BUS PASS, WE ARE STILL
05:18:54 WORKING OUT THE WAIVER ISSUE, BUT WITH THE BUS PASS THEY
05:18:57 WILL BE ABLE TO GET IN THE POOL FOR FREE.
05:18:59 SO ACCESS TO POOLS.
05:19:01 AND THEY ARE GOING TO HELP PROMOTE IT FOR US.
05:19:03 WE ARE GOING TO HELP PROMOTE IT INTERNALLY.
05:19:05 JUST MORE OPPORTUNITIES.
05:19:07 ADDITIONALLY, WE REALIZE THAT THE MAIN ACCESS TO THE SULPHUR
05:19:13 SPRINGS PARK IS THROUGH THE POOL.
05:19:15 WE ARE WORKING TO CHANGE SOME OF THE FENCE LINES TO OPEN UP
05:19:19 THE PLAYGROUND.
05:19:22 WE ARE OPENING UP THE HISTORIC GAZEBO FOR PUBLIC USE THAT'S
05:19:26 BEEN CLEANED UP.
05:19:28 SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THE PUBLIC HAS TALKED TO US ABOUT
05:19:30 HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.
05:19:31 WE RECENTLY HAD PUBLIX AND TAMPA BAY BEAUTIFUL PROVIDE A
05:19:36 MAJOR CLEAN-UP, I FORGET HOW MANY TONS OF DEBRIS WERE
05:19:39 REMOVED, BUT CREATED GOOD SITE LINES FOR BETTER SECURITY,
05:19:43 YOU CAN SIT IN THE PARKING LOT AND SEE THE RIVER NOW,
05:19:46 SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO FOR A LONG TIME.
05:19:48 THE PICNIC SITE HAS BEEN REPAIRED.
05:19:51 IT HAD A BROKEN UP ROOF AND WAS LOOKING A LITTLE TIRED.
05:19:54 SO THAT'S BEEN REPAIRED.
05:19:57 WE ARE WORKING ON TRYING TO IMPROVE THAT SPACE AND GET THE
05:20:00 PUBLIC TO USE IT.
05:20:02 THE BEST ANTIDOTE IS USE, IT'S ACTIVATION.
05:20:07 SORRY WE ARE GOING TO BE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO
05:20:10 USE THE PARK WHEN THE POOL IS NOT OPEN.
05:20:12 SO THESE ARE THE STEPS THAT WE ARE TAKING.
05:20:15 I WANTED TO TRY TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THIS AND HAPPY TO
05:20:20 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
05:20:22 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
05:20:23 IT'S GOING TO BE VIERA, MANISCALCO, MIRANDA, CLENDENIN,
05:20:29 HURTAK.
05:20:29 TAKE IT AWAY.
05:20:30 >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:20:32 AND MR. MULKEY, THANK YOU.
05:20:34 WE HAD A TOWN HAUL.
05:20:37 YOU ARE ALWAYS A MAN OF YOUR WORD AND I THINK SOME OF THOSE
05:20:40 SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT ARE REALLY GREAT.
05:20:43 I WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUDGET AND THINGS WITH
05:20:46 SULPHUR SPRINGS.
05:20:47 YOU RECOGNIZE THIS POOL IS SO PIVOTAL TO THE COMMUNITY THAT
05:20:50 IT'S A REAL LIFELINE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
05:20:53 THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS IS EVEN
05:20:57 BEFORE THIS ISSUE CAME UP WITH THE POOL, I FIRST HEARD ABOUT
05:21:01 IT ON THE WALTER SMITH SHOW AND I MADE THE MOTION, I GUESS I
05:21:05 WAS ON SUNDAY, MADE A MOTION THAT H, BUT EVEN BEFORE THIS
05:21:10 YOU HAD A COMMUNITY THAT REALLY IN NEED AND STILL IS IN
05:21:13 NEED.
05:21:14 IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ON THE TOP OF OUR
05:21:16 MIND.
05:21:17 FOR ME, THIS POOL AND THE CHALLENGES THAT WE SEE WITH IT,
05:21:21 AND THE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES WE SEE IN SULPHUR SPRINGS, IS
05:21:24 MORE OF A SYMPTOM OF JUST NEGLECT, NOT FROM PARKS AND
05:21:27 RECREATION, FROM ALL OF US, YOU KNOW.
05:21:30 HARRY TRUMAN SAID THE BUCK STOPS HERE.
05:21:34 IT STOPS WITH ALL OF US ON CITY COUNCIL, IT STOPS WITH THE
05:21:36 COUNTY COMMISSION, STOPS WITH THE MAYOR.
05:21:39 SULPHUR SPRINGS IS AN AREA WHERE 3 AND 4 OF THE CHILDREN
05:21:43 THERE LIVE IN POVERTY.
05:21:45 A GOOD MAJORITY FROM WORKING HOUSEHOLDS THAT GO TO WORK
05:21:48 EVERY DAY, AND CREDIT WITH THAT PAYCHECK THEY STILL CAN'T
05:21:51 GET OUT OF POST FOR THEIR CHILDREN.
05:21:52 SO I ALWAYS SAY THAT WITH SULPHUR SPRINGS, THEY NEED MORE
05:21:56 THAN THE GREAT THINGS THAT YOU ARE PUTTING FORTH, WHICH IS A
05:21:59 RE REPAIRED POOL, BECAUSE ALL THAT DOES IS MAKE THEM WHOLE
05:22:02 TO WHERE THEY WERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO I.WANT TO HAVE A
05:22:05 CONVERSATION THAT GOES BEYOND THE POOL, THAT GOES BEYOND A
05:22:10 $75,000 OR WHATEVER GRANT, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT THAT TALKS
05:22:14 ABOUT A REAL STRUCTURAL ADDRESSING OF THE CHRONIC LONG-TERM
05:22:19 NEGLECT THAT HAS A PART OF TAMPA HAVING THREE OUT OF FOUR
05:22:23 KIDS, AND ABOUT 6, 7,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN POVERTY.
05:22:29 TALKED ABOUT THE OTHER AMERICA.
05:22:31 THIS IS PART OF THE OTHER TAMPA AND WE HAVE TO TALK MORE AND
05:22:33 MORE ABOUT THAT.
05:22:34 TO ME THIS IS ABOUT A CHANGE IN POLICY, THIS IS A PART OF
05:22:38 AND A WELCOME A PART AND YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB ON THAT.
05:22:42 IT IS NOT JUST INCREMENTAL BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS
05:22:44 STRUCTURAL.
05:22:45 I HAVE BROUGHT UP A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO IN CRA LOOKING AT
05:22:50 TALKING ABOUT HAVING A SULPHUR SPRINGS CRA.
05:22:54 IT WAS VOTED DOWN.
05:22:55 AND I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE ON COUNCIL THAT -- THERE'S PEOPLE
05:22:58 WHO SAY, LOOK, 100% AGAINST IT.
05:23:01 I RESPECT THAT.
05:23:02 MAYBE NOT THE RIGHT TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT.
05:23:04 FINE.
05:23:05 BUT FOR ME, THAT ISSUE OF A SULPHUR SPRINGS CL CRA IS
05:23:10 INEVITABLE.
05:23:10 THAT ISSUE WILL NOT GO AWAY.
05:23:21 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
05:23:23 BUT IN SULPHUR SPRINGS RIGHT NOW LIVES WITH THE CONSEQUENCES
05:23:26 OF NEGLECT OF GOVERNMENT LEGISLATE, SOCIAL NEGLECT,
05:23:30 ET CETERA.
05:23:31 AND THIS POOL IS AGAIN JUST A VERY, VERY SMALL PART OF THIS.
05:23:35 SO WHAT I WANT TO LOOK AT IS NOT JUST A GOOD SOLUTION THAT
05:23:39 WE TALKED ABOUT, AND I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON BROUGHT
05:23:42 UP THE ISSUE OF BUSING FOR FOLKS, AND I AM GLAD YOU PICKED
05:23:47 COPELAND PARK TO HAVE A WONDERFUL FACILITY THERE THAT A LOT
05:23:51 OF THE COMMUNITY WANTS BUT ALSO TALKING ABOUT ON A BIGGER
05:23:54 LEVEL A CONVERSATION ABOUT SULPHUR SPRINGS FOR MARSHALL PLAN
05:23:59 TYPE INVESTMENT IN SULPHUR SPRINGS TO MAKE IT BETTER.
05:24:01 AND I WILL SAY THIS TO THE ADMINISTRATION.
05:24:03 WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGET, THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE SLIDE.
05:24:07 THE MAYOR DOES IT, IN A VIDEO.
05:24:10 I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE A SLIDE THAT GOES, THEY TALK
05:24:14 ABOUT PARKS AND REC, THEY TALK ABOUT DISTRICT 4, 5, 6, 7.
05:24:18 I WANT A SEPARATE SLIDE TO SHOW WHAT WE ARE DOING THIS YEAR
05:24:21 FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS, THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING IN ADDITION
05:24:24 FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
05:24:26 BECAUSE AGAIN THE TRAGEDY OF THIS POOL IS THAT BEFORE THE
05:24:29 POOL WAS TAKEN FROM THE COMMUNITY BY CIRCUMSTANCES OUTSIDE
05:24:32 OF YOUR CONTROL IT WAS A COMMUNITY WITH GREAT NEGLECT.
05:24:37 75% OF KIDS IN POVERTY. TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE IT IS NOW
05:24:41 WITHOUT THAT POOL.
05:24:42 SO MR. MULKEY, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU JUMPING ON THIS WITH
05:24:45 SOME GOOD SOLUTIONS.
05:24:47 MAYBE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS WE CAN PUT
05:24:49 FORWARD.
05:24:50 BUT FOR ME THIS IS PART OF A SYMPTOM OF A LARGER ISSUE THAT
05:24:53 WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, TO STRUCTURAL SOLUTIONS FOR SULPHUR
05:24:56 SPRINGS, BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, GETTING THAT CONVERSATION
05:25:00 MOVING ON SULPHUR SPRINGS AS A CENTER OF CITY POLICY.
05:25:04 THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING THAT I THINK WE CAN DO ON TAMPA
05:25:09 CITY COUNCIL.
05:25:10 THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
05:25:11 THANK YOU, MR. MULKEY.
05:25:13 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE REPORT.
05:25:16 And FOR BEING SO RESPONSIVE, BECAUSE I REACHED OUT TO
05:25:17 YOU WEEKS AGO.
05:25:20 I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS A FRIDAY.
05:25:21 IT WAS AFTER HOURS AND YOU RESPONDED RIGHT AWAY.
05:25:24 I HAD SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT WERE SENT TO ME BY THE
05:25:26 COMMUNITY.
05:25:28 I THINK YOU ANSWERED ALMOST EVERYTHING HERE.
05:25:30 THE ONLY OTHER THINK QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED WAS, WHY NOT
05:25:34 BUILD A POOL ON THE WAYNE PAPY, WHAT IS IT, PROPERTY.
05:25:42 >> AMERICAN LEGION.
05:25:45 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WELL, ONE OF THE BALL FIELDS, BUT PUT A
05:25:49 POOL.
05:25:50 COUNCILMAN VIERA MENTIONED IT.
05:25:51 SULPHUR SPRINGS IS TECHNICALLY FORGOTTEN.
05:25:57 THE COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, I THINK.
05:25:58 IT WAS SAID TO ME BY JOE ROBINSON WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT OF
05:26:02 SULPHUR SPRINGS, NOT THAT JOE ROBINSON, THE OTHER ONE, THIS
05:26:06 IS THE POOREST NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:26:08 IT'S A GREATER ISSUE.
05:26:10 BUT WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT HERE, THIS SWIMMING POOL YOU
05:26:13 MENTIONED THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES.
05:26:14 MY CONCERNS ARE, ARE WE GOING TO BE THROWING AWAY GOOD MONEY
05:26:18 AFTER BAD MONEY OR WHATEVER THE EXPRESSION IS BECAUSE YOU
05:26:21 HAVE THE SPRING THAT FEEDS INTO THE POOL THAT FEEDS INTO THE
05:26:24 RIVER, IS IT A SINKHOLE WAITING TO HAPPEN?
05:26:27 YOU WERE TERRIFIED, YOU SAY, NOT TERRIFIED BUT YOU HAD
05:26:30 CONCERNS ABOUT DRAINING THE POOL AND NOW YOU SAY YOU HAVE A
05:26:33 NATURAL SPRING POPPING UP THROUGH IT.
05:26:34 I HAVE ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION, I HAVE ASKED MR. ROGERO TO
05:26:38 SEE ABOUT IN THIS BUDGET PUTTING MONEY TO BUILD A NEW POOL,
05:26:41 NOT ON THAT SITE, NOT IN THAT SPOT, BUT ON THAT SITE IN A
05:26:45 DIFFERENT LOCATION, SOMEWHERE IN THE PARKING LOT, WHATEVER
05:26:48 NEARBY, WHERE IT MAKES MORE SENSE.
05:26:50 I THINK -- I DON'T WANT TO BE THROWING AWAY MONEY SAYING WE
05:26:56 PASSED IT UP AND IN A COUPLE YEARS.
05:26:58 REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED WITH CUSCADEN POOL, IT WASN'T DONE
05:27:01 RIGHT, THE CONTRACT HE SHALL HAD TO COME BACK.
05:27:03 THAT WAS ANOTHER BATTLE AND MONEY WAS SPENT THERE.
05:27:05 I HOPE THAT THE ADMINISTRATION COMES BACK IN THIS BUDGET
05:27:09 PROPOSAL OR BUDGET PRESENTATION THAT COMES UP AND SAYS, THIS
05:27:12 IS HOW WE FUND A NEW POOL, IF IT GETS TO THAT.
05:27:15 I KNOW IT COULD BE 4 OR $5 MILLION.
05:27:18 I AM NOT ASKING FOR A WHOLE COMPLEX BUT JUST ANOTHER
05:27:21 SWIMMING POOL.
05:27:22 WE SPENT $40 MILLION OR FAIR OAKS, 100 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS
05:27:27 ON HANNA BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT RAISING
05:27:31 THE SOLID WASTE RATES IN ORDER TO FUND 100 PLUS MILLION
05:27:37 DOLLARS IN PROJECT.
05:27:38 I THINK THIS IS A NOBLEST AND A GOOD INVESTMENT IN THIS
05:27:42 COMMUNITY, BECAUSE SHUTTING DOWN THAT POOL FOR REASONS
05:27:45 BEYOND YOUR CONTROL AND SAFETY ISSUES AND STRUCTURAL ISSUES.
05:27:48 >>ORLANDO GUDES: IT'S HURT MORALE, THAT'S WHERE ARE BEEN
05:27:52 DAMAGED FOR A LONG TIME.
05:27:53 IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POOL.
05:27:55 IT'S A HISTORICALLY SIGNIFICANT POOL BECAUSE IT WAS DURING
05:27:58 THE TIME OF SEGREGATION.
05:28:00 I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST POOLS THAT INTEGRATED.
05:28:04 YOU KNOW, THERE'S A STORY THERE.
05:28:09 WHEN EVERYTHING WAS INTEGRATED, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN
05:28:12 TOLD, IT'S THE POOL THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD GO TO.
05:28:15 BUT SULPHUR SPRINGS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
05:28:17 IT'S CHANGED DRAMATICALLY IN THE LAST 350 YEARS.
05:28:20 SOMEONE THIS MORNING MENTIONED THE ARCADE THAT WAS
05:28:23 DEMOLISHED.
05:28:24 I HAVE PICTURES OF THE DEMOLITION.
05:28:26 BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND NOW IT'S A PARKING LOT.
05:28:28 YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE THIS INVESTMENT.
05:28:31 WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ELSEWHERE.
05:28:33 I HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION COMES THROUGH, OR WE AS A COUNCIL,
05:28:37 IN LOOKING AT IF WE HAVE TO BUILD A NEW POOL ON THE SITE
05:28:41 JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY USES
05:28:44 IT.
05:28:45 YOU SAY IT'S THE BUSIEST POOL IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:28:47 >> IT'S ONE OF THE TOP THREE AT THIS POINT.
05:28:50 >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE OF THE TOP THREE.
05:28:51 WE HAD THE ISSUE WITH THE ANGUS GOSS POOL THAT IS NOW A DOG
05:28:57 PARK. THAT POOL NEVER CAME TO FRUITION, AND THAT WAS IN
05:28:58 2019 WHEN WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION. I DON'T WANT TO LET THE
05:29:01 COMMUNITY DOWN.
05:29:02 I THINK IT WOULD BE A NOBLE AND WORTHY INVESTMENT TO BUILD A
05:29:07 NEW POOL.
05:29:08 MAYBE IF WE CAN'T FIX IT PROPERLY, AND TAKE IT FROM THERE.
05:29:11 SO I HOPE THE ADMINISTRATION IS LISTENING AND I HOPE THEY
05:29:15 ARE WORKING ON SOME KIND OF A FINANCING PLAN IN ORDER TO DO
05:29:18 IT.
05:29:18 THANK YOU.
05:29:20 COUNCILMEMBER MIRANDA, CLENDENIN, HURTAK, CARLSON.
05:29:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:29:31PM EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS CORRECT AND YOU ARE RIGHT, YOU HAVE
05:29:34PM TO LOOK THE WHAT THE COST IS TO REPAIR AND IF YOU REPAIR,
05:29:38PM HOW MUCH THE GUARANTEE WILL LAST.
05:29:39PM THE AQUIFER.
05:29:41PM A MOVING OBJECT TO SOME DEGREE.
05:29:43PM TAKING A BIG RISK.
05:29:44PM AND I THINK POSSIBLY TO LOOK AT IT REALISTICALLY AND THE
05:29:48PM CITY DOES OWN A LOT OF LAND THROUGH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:29:50PM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE INTERSTATE, THERE IS A LOT OF LAND
05:29:54PM THERE.
05:29:54PM AND IT IS ON THE WATER.
05:29:55PM IT HAS THE TOWER.
05:29:56PM AND WE ARE USING SPORADICALLY.
05:30:00PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLANS ARE -- [BEEPING]
05:30:04PM -- I THOUGHT YOU GAVE ME A QUICK FIVE MINUTES.
05:30:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GUIDO TOOK ALL YOUR TIME.
05:30:12PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT REALITY IS.
05:30:15PM AND I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A LITTLE BOY AT 1806 CANDLE COURT.
05:30:19PM WE WOULD WALK A MILE TO GO SWIMMING AND SO MANY OF US THAT
05:30:23PM IT LOOKED LIKE A LOT OF DOLPHINS.
05:30:25PM ALL YOU SEE WERE HANDS IN THE AIR.
05:30:28PM I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO SWIM.
05:30:29PM I HAD TO WITH THE GUTTER TO LEARN WITH ONE HAND AND THE
05:30:33PM OTHER HAND AND FINALLY I GOT A DEAL WHEN I COULD WALK ON THE
05:30:36PM SIDE AND LEARN HOW TO SWIM.
05:30:38PM EVERYBODY LEARNED HOW THAT WAY.
05:30:40PM THINGS HAVE CHANGED.
05:30:41PM AND YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB.
05:30:43PM YOU ARE VERY RESPONSIVE AND APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.
05:30:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CLENDENIN, HURTAK AND CARLSON.
05:30:56PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU SAID 82.
05:30:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT EVEN CLOSE.
05:31:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE ONE AND YOU TALK
05:31:04PM ABOUT THE BEST THING ABOUT THIS.
05:31:05PM BEST THING IS, THAT YOU ARE PROACTIVE AND ON TOP OF THIS.
05:31:10PM AND NO ONE WAS HURT.
05:31:11PM THE WORST THING, WE HAD -- WE HAD PROPERTY THAT IS DAMAGED
05:31:14PM THAT CAN BE REBUILT.
05:31:15PM BUT BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF THAT THE CITY TOOK, YOU WERE
05:31:19PM PROACTIVE IN ENSURING THAT YOU DID THE RIGHT THING BY
05:31:22PM SHUTTING IT DOWN TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF THE PUBLIC.
05:31:25PM I THINK THAT IS THE BEST -- THE UNTOLD STORY THAT MAYBE
05:31:28PM ISN'T -- THAT PEOPLE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT THAT, ONE, Y'ALL
05:31:32PM DID THE RIGHT THING.
05:31:33PM WE HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS ERODED AND BY ACT OF NATURE.
05:31:37PM AS -- YOU KNOW, MAYBE LOOK PAST THIS LIFE CYCLE AND HAVE TO
05:31:41PM LOOK AT REPLACING.
05:31:42PM I AGREE.
05:31:43PM SORRY THAT COUNCILMAN VIERA IS NOT HERE.
05:31:45PM BECAUSE I -- I DISAGREE ABOUT -- I VOTED AGAINST SIERRA.
05:31:50PM AND I WOULD VOTE AGAINST IT TODAY.
05:31:52PM BUT HAVING A MASTER PLAN FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
05:31:58PM SPEAK OF THE DEVIL AND HE SHALL ARRIVE.
05:32:00PM TALKING OF SULPHUR SPRINGS, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:32:02PM AND I SAID I DISAGREE WITH THE NEED OF CRA.
05:32:08PM I LOVE YOUR IDEA AND LOVE TO WORK WU AND THE REST OF THE
05:32:11PM COUNCIL TO DO SOMETHING TO REFERENCE A MASTER PLAN FOR
05:32:16PM SULPHUR SPRINGS.
05:32:16PM BECAUSE IT GOES BEYOND WHAT A CRA CAN EVEN PROVIDE.
05:32:19PM BECAUSE OF THE -- PART OF THIS PLAN HAS GOT TO BE
05:32:23PM TRANSPORTATION.
05:32:23PM A KEY IN AN AREA LIKE SULPHUR SPRINGS IS BEING ABLE TO MOVE
05:32:27PM PEOPLE.
05:32:27PM AND TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TO EMPLOYMENT AND GET PEOPLE TO
05:32:30PM EDUCATION.
05:32:30PM GET PEOPLE TO RECREATIONAL AREAS.
05:32:33PM SO THESE KIDS AND OTHER PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY
05:32:36PM HAVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE PART IN THIS
05:32:39PM WONDERFUL CITY THAT WE ARE BUILDING IN ALL THESE CORNERS OF
05:32:42PM THE CITY AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE TRANSPORTATION IS A KEY
05:32:44PM ELEMENT TO THAT AFFORDABLE TRANSPORTATION.
05:32:47PM GET PEOPLE TO PEOPLE'S JOBS.
05:32:49PM AGAIN, OFF TOPIC ON THE POOL.
05:32:51PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING PROACTIVE AND ENSURING THE
05:32:55PM SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
05:32:57PM WITH YOU TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR ALL OF THIS.
05:33:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:33:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT START BY SAYING THANK FOR YOUR WORK
05:33:05PM AND PUBLIC'S WORK AND KEEP TAMPA BAY BECAUSE I WAS THERE FOR
05:33:13PM THE BOAT PARADE AND SEMINOLE HEIGHTS, SULPHUR SPRINGS
05:33:16PM TRADITION EVERY YEAR.
05:33:17PM AND YOU REALLY COULD BARELY SEE IT.
05:33:20PM YOU CAN'T SEE THE RIVER FROM THAT SPOT.
05:33:22PM SO I AM HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON CLEANING UP.
05:33:26PM AND YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT CLEANING UP THAT SPACE AND MAKING
05:33:30PM IT MORE ACCESSIBLE.
05:33:31PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
05:33:33PM I WILL ECHO WHAT OTHERS HAVE TO SAY.
05:33:36PM I DON'T THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA TO REALLY THINK OF
05:33:38PM RENOVATION AT THIS POINT.
05:33:39PM TO ME, IT IS NOT JUST A THING OF MONEY, IT'S TIME.
05:33:44PM WE -- THERE ARE A LOT OF PARKING SPACES IN THAT PARK THAT
05:33:48PM CAN EASILY BE A POOL.
05:33:53PM SO THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
05:33:55PM SO I REALLY PREFER TO LOOK AT REPLACEMENT, JUST BECAUSE AT
05:34:01PM THE POINT THAT YOU PUT $4 MILLION IN TO FIX AND MOVE THE
05:34:05PM WATER AND DO THIS.
05:34:06PM WHY NOT PUT THAT TOWARD A NEW POOL.
05:34:10PM AND THE SOONER WE START THINKING ABOUT THAT, THE SOONER WE
05:34:14PM CAN GET IT OPEN.
05:34:15PM AND I THINK THAT IS REALLY WHAT WE ARE ALL LOOKING FOR.
05:34:18PM AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN REOPEN IT, BUT I
05:34:21PM WOULD BE HESITANT TO PUT ANY MONEY TOWARD THAT DUE TO WHAT'S
05:34:26PM UNDER IT.
05:34:27PM AND YOU MAY BE ABLE TO FIX IT.
05:34:28PM I AM SURE THERE ARE GREAT ENGINEERS OUT THERE, BUT
05:34:32PM LIABILITY-WISE AND COMFORT LEVEL-WISE, WHEN YOU ARE THINKING
05:34:36PM OF REBAR THAT IS NOT DOING WELL UNDER THE POOL.
05:34:39PM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU ARE GOING TO FIX THAT WITHOUT OPENING
05:34:42PM IT UP.
05:34:43PM FROM WHAT YOU SAY, IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE THAT WAS A WISE
05:34:47PM PATH TO GO DOWN AND INSTEAD LOOKING AT WHERE ELSE ON THIS
05:34:50PM SPACE CAN WE PUT A NEW POOL.
05:34:52PM BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, IT IS GOING TO BE EVENTUAL.
05:34:56PM SO I WOULD RATHER RIP THAT BAND-AID OFF AND PUT MONEY TOWARD
05:35:00PM A NEW POOL, BECAUSE IF WE CAN START SOMETHING NOW, WE MAY BE
05:35:03PM ABLE TO GET A POOL OPEN BY NEXT SWIM SEASON.
05:35:06PM THAT WILL BE -- THAT WILL BE A LOFTY GOAL TO BEGIN WITH, BUT
05:35:11PM REALLY WONDERFUL.
05:35:11PM SO I HOPE YOU AND YOUR TEAM AND THE ADMINISTRATION THINK
05:35:16PM ABOUT THAT.
05:35:17PM >>TONY MULKEY: PART OF THE EQUATION.
05:35:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I FIGURED PART OF THE EQUATION, BUT PUT A
05:35:24PM LITTLE MORE PLUG.
05:35:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:35:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR
05:35:31PM STAYING ON TOP OF THIS.
05:35:32PM I KNOW IT IS TOUGH COMMUNICATING WITH THE PUBLIC ON THIS.
05:35:34PM FASTER WE CAN GET INFORMATION OUT, THE BETTER.
05:35:37PM THANK YOU FOR BEING ON TOP OF IT.
05:35:39PM DESPITE THE NUMBERS, MY PREFERENCE IS PRESERVATION ALWAYS.
05:35:43PM IF YOU ARE EVEN CONSIDERING NOT DOING PRESERVATION, I WOULD
05:35:47PM GET TOGETHER THE PRESERVATION GROUPS IMMEDIATELY, LIKE NEXT
05:35:51PM WEEK, AND START MEETING WITH THEM AND TALKING WITH THEM AND
05:35:53PM GET THEIR COUNSEL.
05:35:54PM AND IF THERE IS A CONSENSUS THAT ANOTHER PATH IS THE RIGHT
05:35:59PM WAY, WOULD YOU BE BETTER OFF HAVING THEM ON YOUR SIDE OR
05:36:02PM THEY MAY HAVE INNOVATIVE IDEAS TO HELP.
05:36:04PM AND TO THE -- TO THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA IN GENERAL.
05:36:08PM YOU KNOW, I HAVE BEEN AGAINST ANY NEW CRAS.
05:36:11PM BECAUSE CRAS -- I CALL THEM TAXPAYER SUBSIDIZED
05:36:16PM GENTRIFICATION FOR HIGH RISES.
05:36:19PM DEVELOPERS ARE SAYING THEY ARE ALREADY BUYING PROPERTY
05:36:23PM AROUND SULPHUR SPRINGS.
05:36:24PM DEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
05:36:26PM AND I THINK THERE IS A NOT A BIG DEVELOPMENT THAT A CRA, BUT
05:36:34PM PEOPLE ARE BUYING BUILDINGS PUTTING IN NEW USES AND IT WILL
05:36:38PM HAPPEN VERY FAST.
05:36:39PM REMEMBER SEMINOLE HEIGHTS BACK IN THE '90s, BUY A BIG HOUSE
05:36:43PM FOR $30,000.
05:36:44PM MAYBE NOT THAT LOW, BUT THINGS ARE GOING TO POP FAST WE NEED
05:36:49PM TO -- THIS IS NOT YOUR AREA, BUT WE NEED TO WORK ON THE
05:36:53PM SULPHUR SPRINGS PLAN ASAP TO GUIDE THAT FOR THE HISTORY AND
05:36:57PM CULTURE OF THE COMMUNITY.
05:36:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES?
05:37:00PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I WAS GOING TO SAY WHENEVER.
05:37:08PM YOU BRING UP THE ISSUE OF THE CRA.
05:37:11PM NUMBER ONE, I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA AND A SORT OF FORCED
05:37:15PM DISCUSSION OF DOING SOMETHING BIG AND STRUCTURAL IN THE
05:37:18PM SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
05:37:19PM I DON'T CARE IF IT HAPPENS BY CRA, BY SING 12 HAIL MEARS AS
05:37:25PM A LEMONADE STAND.
05:37:28PM I WANT TO GET THE JOB DONE.
05:37:31PM MR. CHAIR, MAKE A QUICK MOTION.
05:37:36PM AND TO REQUEST THAT THE ADMINISTRATION WHEN THEY DO A BUDGET
05:37:39PM PRESENTATION TO CITY COUNCIL THAT THERE WILL BE A SLIDE
05:37:42PM DEDICATED WHAT THAT BUDGET DOES FOR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
05:37:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:37:49PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:37:51PM >>LUIS VIERA: I KNOW WE HAVE A WORKSHOP COMING UP ON SULPHUR
05:37:55PM SPRINGS AS WELL.
05:37:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:38:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YOU GET THE CITY AND YOU LOOK AT IT IN
05:38:03PM DISTRICT 4, 5, 6 AND 7, AND LOOK AT IT AS A TOTAL AND WATCH
05:38:08PM WHAT THE CITY SPENDS IN EACH FOUR PIECES OF PIE, YOU WILL
05:38:11PM FIND OUT THEY ARE VERY, VERY CLOSE.
05:38:13PM I WILL GUARANTEE YOU THAT.
05:38:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:38:18PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:38:19PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:38:20PM I WILL KEEP TALKING WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ASKING THEM FOR
05:38:23PM THE MONEY.
05:38:24PM AGAIN, WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ELSEWHERE, A GREAT -- NOT
05:38:29PM EVEN A LEGACY PROJECT.
05:38:31PM COMMUNITY DESERVE IT IS.
05:38:32PM AND THE COMMUNITY USE IT IS.
05:38:34PM NOT LIKE OH, WE ARE GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING PRETTY.
05:38:37PM THE DEMAND IS THERE.
05:38:38PM AN UNDERSERVED COMMUNITY.
05:38:39PM I DON'T THINK IT IS THE CITY'S FAULT.
05:38:41PM I THINK -- IT IS HOW TIMES HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS.
05:38:45PM YOU HAVE THE BIG K-MART PROPERTY.
05:38:47PM THAT WAS HUGE.
05:38:48PM NOW THERE ARE BUSINESSES THERE.
05:38:52PM BUT MY MOTH WILL TELL YOU -- HOW MUCH TIME THEY SPENT IN
05:38:55PM SULPHUR SPRINGS IN THE '600s AND '70s AND HOW MUCH HAVE
05:39:00PM CHANGED AND HOW MUCH THE REST OF THE CITY HAS BEEN
05:39:04PM FLOURISHED.
05:39:04PM IT HAS BEEN NEGLECTED AND FORGOTTEN ON BUSY FLORIDA AVENUE
05:39:09PM NEBRASKA AVENUE.
05:39:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HILLSBOROUGH RIVER.
05:39:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT IS A BEAUTIFUL -- I CAN'T -- I GOT
05:39:18PM CRITICIZED FOR CALLING A NEIGHBORHOOD BEAUTIFUL.
05:39:21PM A GREAT AND IMPORTANT PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
05:39:23PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MULKEY.
05:39:28PM YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB AS DIRECTOR AND THANK YOU FOR
05:39:31PM ALWAYS BEING SO RESPONSIVE.
05:39:33PM BECAUSE YOU JUST -- GO AHEAD.
05:39:35PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, GO AHEAD.
05:39:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I WANT TO SAY THIS REALLY FOR THE PUBLIC.
05:39:42PM I KNOW MR. MULKEY HAS A TOUGH JOB TO DO WHEN IT COMES TO
05:39:47PM SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL.
05:39:49PM BUT EVEN IF WE GET TO THE REST LOUIS, IT IS GOING TO TAKE
05:39:52PM MONEY AND GOING TO TAKE TIME.
05:39:53PM AND I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THAT.
05:39:56PM IT WON'T BE RESOLVED PROBABLY IN 2025.
05:39:59PM I KNOW THAT IS DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO HEAR, BUT THE PROBLEM
05:40:03PM SEEMS TO BE MAJOR ENOUGH WHERE IT IS GOING TO COST A LOT OF
05:40:07PM MONEY AND IT IS GOING TO TAKE TIME TO GET RESOLVED AND GOING
05:40:11PM TO HAVE TO BE PUT IN THE BUDGET.
05:40:13PM AND I KNOW THAT THE CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, USE THIS AS A HIGH
05:40:16PM END AS ONE OF THE TOP THREE POOLS BEING USED.
05:40:19PM IN THE REALITY OF THINGS, IT IS OUR JOB SAY THE TOUGH STUFF.
05:40:23PM AND IT IS JUST NOT GOING TO BE A SOLUTION THAT IS RESOLVED
05:40:27PM OVERNIGHT.
05:40:27PM I WANT TO SAY THAT TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE I KNOW THAT HAS TO
05:40:31PM BE SAID.
05:40:31PM AND I DON'T MIND PUTTING NEWS OUT THERE.
05:40:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MULKEY.
05:40:39PM >>TONY MULKEY: THANK YOU.
05:40:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 94.
05:40:43PM THIS IS MR. BHIDE WHO I BELIEVE -- HE MAY STILL BE ONLINE.
05:40:47PM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR.
05:40:52PM GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
05:40:54PM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY HERE TO ADDRESS NUMBER 94.
05:40:58PM MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CARLSON REGARDING BAYSHORE BOULEVARD.
05:41:03PM AND -- AND SPECIFICALLY WHAT -- WHAT WORK HAS BEEN DONE.
05:41:08PM AND UPDATE COUNCIL ON THE SCHEDULE FOR ADDITIONAL CHANGES,
05:41:13PM INCLUDING MID CROSSINGS.
05:41:18PM A MEMO TODAY WAS SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL.
05:41:21PM AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
05:41:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:41:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: VIK, FOR THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE NOT READ IT.
05:41:32PM SINCE YOU HAVE BEEN WAITING ALL AFTERNOON, CAN YOU DO THE
05:41:36PM ONE, TWO MINUTES OF WHAT YOU RECOMMENDED SUMMARY?
05:41:39PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
05:41:40PM IN THE MEMO, WE KIND OF OUTLINED STARTING FROM 2018, BUT I
05:41:45PM DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT BAYSHORE IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN
05:41:50PM THE FOCUS EVERY OTHER YEAR AT THE VERY LEAST.
05:41:53PM AND WITH GOOD REASON.
05:41:55PM IT IS THE JEWEL OF TAMPA, AMONG OTHER THINGS.
05:41:58PM SO SINCE 2018, WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON BAYSHORE
05:42:05PM BOULEVARD.
05:42:05PM THAT DOES INCLUDE ADDITION OF FOUR BEACON ASSISTED OR BEACON
05:42:15PM OUTFITTED CROSSWALKS ALONG BAYSHORE BETWEEN GANDY AND PLATT.
05:42:21PM WE HAVE UPDATED -- OR REDUCED THE SPEED LIMIT FROM 40 TO 35.
05:42:27PM WE REDUCED LANE WIDTH BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN SHOWN TO REDUCE
05:42:32PM THE SPEED AT WHICH YOU CAN COMFORTABLY DRIVE IN THE SAME
05:42:36PM FACILITY.
05:42:36PM AND WE HAVE SEEN THAT AND THERE IS A LOT OF EVIDENCE FOR IT
05:42:40PM AS WELL.
05:42:40PM WE MODIFIED SIGNAL OPERATIONS.
05:42:43PM AND ALSO ADDED TWO SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS OR TRAFFIC
05:42:49PM SIGNALS AT ROME AND EUCLID.
05:42:52PM THIS WAS DONE ABOUT THREE, FOUR YEARS BACK AFTER A COUPLE OF
05:42:58PM UNFORTUNATE FATALITIES IN THE AREA.
05:42:59PM SINCE DOING ALL OF THIS WORK ON BAYSHORE, NORTH OF GANDY, WE
05:43:05PM HAVE OBSERVED A REDUCTION IN SERIOUS CRASHES.
05:43:12PM THERE HAVE BEEN NO REPORTED FATALITIES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS
05:43:17PM AS MENTIONED IN THE MEMO IT ITSELF.
05:43:20PM AND WE HAVE SEEN AVERAGE SPEEDS BE LOWER THAN BEFORE ALSO.
05:43:25PM SO SOME OF THE WORK THAT TPD HAS DONE.
05:43:29PM SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE INCREMENTALLY TOWARD THE
05:43:33PM DESIGN OF THE FACILITY DOES SEEM TO BE PAYING DIVIDENDS.
05:43:38PM SOUTH OF GANDY, MORE RECENTLY, WE FOCUSED ON THE BALLAST
05:43:44PM POINT NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WORKED, AGAIN, WITH TPD AND THE
05:43:48PM NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE AREA TO PUT IN ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC
05:43:52PM CALMING.
05:43:53PM ESPECIALLY AT INTERSECTIONS, ALL-WAY STOPS, PILOTING SOME
05:44:00PM NEW NOISE ENFORCEMENT SIGNS AND LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT
05:44:06PM FROM 25 TO 35 MILES PER HOUR BECAUSE APPROPRIATE FOR THE
05:44:11PM CONTEXT OF BEING RESIDENTIAL.
05:44:12PM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT BAYSHORE BETWEEN GANDY AND BROREEN
05:44:22PM IS A COUNTY OWNED FACILITY.
05:44:24PM AND WE MAINTAIN IT UNDER AGREEMENT WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
05:44:32PM AND PART OF THAT AGREEMENT WE MAKE REQUEST FOR CAPITAL
05:44:36PM UPGRADES ON THIS FACILITY.
05:44:41PM AND ATTACHED WITH THE MEMO THE SIGNAL INSTALLATION THAT THE
05:44:51PM CITY SPENT WITH CIP DOLLARS AT ROME AND EUCLID MORE
05:44:55PM PERMANENT SO CONCRETE POLES RATHER THAN THE WOOD POLES THAT
05:44:58PM WE HAVE ALLOCATIONS FOR REPAIRING THE SEAWALL ALONG
05:45:06PM BAYSHORE.
05:45:07PM INCREASED MAINTENANCE IN THE AREA INTO THE SEAWALL NOT BEING
05:45:14PM THE BEST SHAPE, AND ALSO THE CONCRETE SURFACE AROUND
05:45:17PM BAYSHORE ITSELF DOING SOME REPAIRS AND CAPITAL UPGRADES TO
05:45:21PM THAT.
05:45:21PM ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS ARE IN THE LETTER THAT WE SUBMIT TO
05:45:26PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY AS I MENTIONED.
05:45:28PM AND WE HAVE GOT SOME ADDITIONAL WORK PLANNED COMING UP AS
05:45:32PM WELL.
05:45:32PM >>BILL CARLSON: I COULD JUST ASK YOU A QUICK QUESTION
05:45:39PM BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET OUT OF HERE.
05:45:41PM BUT ALMOST EVERY DAY I SEE PEOPLE PUSHING STROLLERS ACROSS
05:45:47PM BAYSHORE.
05:45:49PM BALANCING THEIR KID ON THE MEDIAN WHILE THEY CROSS IN A
05:45:53PM PLACE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A CROSSWALK.
05:45:55PM SOME OF THEM ARE 20 FEET, 10 FEET -- I HAVE SEEN THEM 10
05:45:59PM FEET FROM THE FLASHING LIGHTS, BALANCING THEIR -- THE
05:46:02PM STROLLERS.
05:46:03PM IS THAT -- IS THAT -- HOW DO WE SOLVE THAT PROBLEM?
05:46:07PM DOES THAT MEAN WE NEED MORE CROSSINGS OR SOMEHOW ENCOURAGE
05:46:11PM PEOPLE TO GO ACROSS -- HOW DO WE SOLVE -- BECAUSE IT SEEMS
05:46:16PM WE ARE ON OUR WAY TO GET ANOTHER PERSON HIT.
05:46:19PM >>VIK BHIDE: THAT A VERY GOOD POINT.
05:46:21PM AND THERE ARE EXISTING CURB CUTS THAT ARE LEGALLY
05:46:28PM CROSSWALKS.
05:46:28PM THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING ON MARKING AND
05:46:33PM HIGHLIGHTING A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
05:46:34PM THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS RELATIVE TO CROSSWALK AND
05:46:41PM THINGS LIKE THAT.
05:46:42PM BUT OUR APPROACH TO THAT FROM A DESIGN PERSPECTIVE HAS
05:46:46PM CHANGED AS WELL.
05:46:47PM TO YOUR POINT, FOLLOW THE PEDESTRIAN.
05:46:52PM WHERE THE PEDESTRIANS ARE CROSSING IS WHERE YOU NEED TO HAVE
05:46:55PM FACILITIES.
05:46:56PM THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN FUNDING.
05:46:57PM I WILL BE REMISS NOT TO MENTION THAT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT
05:47:04PM IT IS NOT A CITY FACILITY, BUT THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS
05:47:07PM THAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
05:47:09PM MARKING EXISTING CROSSWALKS, AND CONTINUING TO LOOK AT WHAT
05:47:14PM ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO SLOW TRAFFIC AND IMPROVE
05:47:18PM PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY.
05:47:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:47:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VIK, I APPRECIATE IT.
05:47:27PM AND I APPRECIATE OUR CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ISSUE.
05:47:29PM YOU KIND OF HIT ON THAT.
05:47:30PM ONE OF MY ISSUES WERE THE MID BLOCK CROSSWALKS, AND NOT
05:47:36PM FOLLOWING THE BEHAVIOR OF PEOPLE, BECAUSE PEOPLE STILL WANT
05:47:38PM TO CROSS -- WHEN THEY COME DOWN THE STREET.
05:47:40PM THEY WANT TO CROSS WHERE THEY COME DOWN THE STREET AND I
05:47:43PM WITNESS IT EVERY DAY.
05:47:44PM AND I APPRECIATE YOU LOOKING AT THAT AND NOT DROPPING THE
05:47:47PM BALL ON THAT TO LOOK AT THOSE OPTIONS TO RECTIFY THE
05:47:52PM SITUATION.
05:47:52PM SOMETHING SELF-EVIDENT AND I AM WAITING FOR FATALITY.
05:47:57PM MINOR ACCIDENTS.
05:47:58PM I KNOW I BROUGHT THIS UP.
05:47:59PM A LOT OF THESE ACCIDENTS THAT WERE IN YOUR REPORT WERE
05:48:03PM THINGS THAT ACTUALLY ROSE TO THE LEVEL OF -- OF FILING A
05:48:06PM POLICE REPORT.
05:48:06PM BUT WE KNOW IN THE CITY OF FLORIDA, YOU DON'T NECESSARILY
05:48:11PM HAVE TO FILE A POLICE REPORT AND STRAIGHT TO INSURANCE.
05:48:14PM I WITNESSED ACCIDENT AFTER ACCIDENT AS FAR AS
05:48:16PM FENDER-BENDERS.
05:48:18PM SCREECHING OF THE BREAKS AND SMASH.
05:48:20PM YOU JUST HEAR IT.
05:48:21PM I WOULDN'T SAY EVERY DAY BUT EVERY FEW DAYS I SEE IT.
05:48:26PM I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY COGNIZANT AND UNDERSTAND
05:48:30PM STATISTICS FROM PD IS NOT THE ENTIRE STORY WHAT IS HAPPENING
05:48:34PM OUT THERE.
05:48:34PM THE NEAR MISSES.
05:48:36PM WE ARE NOT CAPTURING THE NEAR MISSES AND ALMOST FATALITIES
05:48:39PM AND ALMOST ACCIDENTS THAT WE ARE SEEING THERE IN REALTIME.
05:48:43PM SO I THINK IT IS STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
05:48:46PM I I AGREE HE WITH YOU FUNDING.
05:48:48PM HOPEFULLY IF YOU COME BACK WITH A PLAN THAT WE WILL BE ABLE
05:48:51PM TO HELP YOU WITH THAT AS WE DEVELOP THE FLAG '25 BUDGET TO
05:48:56PM ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDING AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE
05:49:00PM ANOTHER FATALITY ON BAYSHORE AND I AM SURE IT IS STILL A
05:49:04PM TICKING TIME BOMB AND SAFETY GAPS WE HAVE TO FIX.
05:49:07PM THANK YOU FOR STAYING ON TOP OF IT BECAUSE IT IS THE JEWEL
05:49:10PM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA AND WE HAVE TO STAY ON TOP OF THINGS.
05:49:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, MR. BHIDE.
05:49:18PM NEXT UP, ITEM NUMBER 95.
05:49:20PM COUNCILMAN VIERA WISHES TO SAY A FEW WORDS ON THIS ITEM.
05:49:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, I DON'T.
05:49:26PM 97.
05:49:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: 95 WE CAN RECEIVE AND FILE.
05:49:29PM 97, YOU WISH TO SAY A FEW WORDS?
05:49:33PM >>LUIS VIERA: WELL, THANK YOU.
05:49:35PM OFFICER MORRIS, THE 75th ANNIVERSARY YEAR AFTER HIS MURDER
05:49:40PM AND DEATH.
05:49:42PM SO I SPOKE -- I WANT TO UPDATE FOLKS.
05:49:45PM I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING TO HIS GRANDSON, MORRIS LOPEZ III.
05:49:50PM A REALLY NICE GENTLEMAN.
05:49:52PM HE IS WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.
05:49:53PM SO WE ARE LOOKING AT EITHER HAVING A CITY PLAQUE OR
05:49:57PM POTENTIALLY WORKING WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY ON A HISTORICAL
05:50:00PM MARKER.
05:50:01PM AND THERE IS THE CITY OF TAMPA POLICE MEMORIAL BOARD AND ILL
05:50:07PM BE REACHING OUT TO THEM TOMORROW.
05:50:09PM LONG STORY SHORT.
05:50:11PM OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SO MANY EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE.
05:50:14PM TOO MANY IN FACT WHO HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIVES WITH TAMPA
05:50:18PM POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS TAMPA FIRE RESCUE IN DIFFERENT
05:50:20PM WAYS FOR FOLKS HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:50:23PM THEN ON JULY 9 OF 1949, OFFICER LOPEZ WAS ON 7th AVENUE AND
05:50:28PM 16th IN YBOR CITY WHEN HE WAS MURDERED.
05:50:32PM A PERSON BELIEVED TO BE A GANGSTER SHOT HIM WHILE DRIVING IN
05:50:35PM HIS CAR.
05:50:36PM WHILE HE WAS SUFFERING FROM THE WOUNDS THAT WILL ULTIMATELY
05:50:38PM TAKE HIS LIFE, HE SAW THERE WERE BULLETS TO A YOUNG PAPER
05:50:44PM BOY NEXT TO HIM.
05:50:45PM DYING AND SHOT AND PUSHED THE PAPER BOY OUT OF THE WAY IN
05:50:49PM HIS LAST MOMENT.
05:50:50PM WHAT INTERESTING, NOT JUST WITH HIS GRANDSON MORRIS LOPEZ
05:50:54PM III, DIVISION CHIEF WITH HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY FIRE RESCUE TO
05:50:57PM BECOME A FIRE FIGHTER.
05:50:58PM BUT THE SON OF THE PAPER BOY WOULD BECOME A FIRST RESPONDER
05:51:02PM AND BECOME A FIRE FIGHTER AND CREDIT INSPIRATION OF THE LATE
05:51:07PM OFFICER MORRIS LOPEZ.
05:51:10PM FOR ME WHEN PEOPLE ARE ON 7th AVENUE DOING GOD KNOWS WHAT, A
05:51:15PM HERO GAVE HIS LIFE OVER THERE.
05:51:16PM HOPEFULLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WE CAN GET THIS DONE.
05:51:20PM I DON'T NEED ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL AND HOPEFULLY GET THIS
05:51:23PM DONE.
05:51:23PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
05:51:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT TAKES US TO ITEM NUMBER 100.
05:51:27PM THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT.
05:51:29PM WE DO NOT NEED STAFF PRESENT.
05:51:31PM IS THE COUNCIL SATISFIED WITH THE WRITTEN REPORT FOR ITEM
05:51:35PM 100?
05:51:37PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:51:37PM THAT BRINGS US TO MR. SHELBY FOR ITEMS 92 AND 93.
05:51:42PM GO AHEAD, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
05:51:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, I AM MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL
05:51:48PM ATTORNEY.
05:51:48PM TAKE 92.
05:51:49PM IF WE CAN GO TO THE OVERHEAD.
05:51:52PM THE ELMO.
05:51:53PM KNOWN AS THE WOLF.
05:51:56PM AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I PUT TOGETHER BASED ON TAKING INTO
05:52:00PM ACCOUNT THE INPUT RECEIVED FROM CITY COUNCIL.
05:52:02PM THIS IS REGARDING THE PROCESS THAT CITY COUNCIL WILL FOLLOW
05:52:07PM TO INITIATE THE HONORARY NAMING OF CITY-OWNED PROPERTY.
05:52:11PM AND IT BEGINS WITH AN APPLICATION COMPLETED PURSUANT TO THE
05:52:15PM CITY CODE AND ATTACHED TO THE MEMORANDUM BY THE SPONSORING
05:52:19PM COUNCILMEMBER DETAILING JUSTIFICATION WHY THE PARTICULAR
05:52:23PM CITY SHOULD BE NAMED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PERSON CITED.
05:52:26PM YOU TALKED OF LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION.
05:52:28PM I PUT IN LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION, NEIGHBORHOODS, BUSINESS
05:52:32PM AND CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS OR CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD
05:52:35PM ACCOMPANY THE SUBMISSION AND AGAIN TALK ABOUT TIMING.
05:52:38PM I PUT IN THE MEMORANDUM, APPLICATION AND LETTER PACKAGE
05:52:42PM DISTRIBUTED TO CITY COUNCIL NO LESS THAN TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO
05:52:45PM THE MOTION MADE UNDER NEW BUSINESS SETTING THE MATTER ON A
05:52:48PM FUTURE DATE.
05:52:50PM THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL IN THE LAW, A CONDITION WITH
05:52:54PM PROCEEDING TO YOU EVEN MAKING THE MOTION.
05:52:58PM IF COUNCIL WISHES TO HAVE THAT INCORPORATED, WHAT YOU HAVE
05:53:01PM IN FRONT OF YOU IS A -- ARE THE RULES OF PROCEDURE THAT
05:53:05PM ALREADY I TOOK THE -- I TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALREADY
05:53:12PM UNINCORPORATE THAT IN A SUBSTITUTE IF THAT IS -- IF THAT IS
05:53:17PM ACCEPTABLE TO COUNCIL.
05:53:19PM IF COUNCIL PROPOSES ANY CHANGES, WE CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES
05:53:23PM AND PRESENT IT TO THE CLERK CONSISTENT WITH YOUR MOTION.
05:53:27PM THAT IS 92.
05:53:30PM ANY COMMENTS?
05:53:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY COMMENTS?
05:53:33PM I THINK THAT IS VERY WELL WRITTEN.
05:53:34PM VERY SPECIFIC.
05:53:35PM GIVES COUNCILMEMBERS ADVANCED NOTICE OF WHAT IS COMING.
05:53:39PM BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED SEVERAL WEEKS.
05:53:41PM AND IT ALSO -- I WOULD SAY THAT IS THE INDIVIDUAL.
05:53:45PM THE PROPOSED HONOREE WITH LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION AND
05:53:49PM EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU MENTIONED.
05:53:51PM AND SO WE CAN AVOID ANY -- ANY FUTURE ISSUES WHERE, YOU
05:53:56PM KNOW, THERE IS -- THERE IS SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME
05:53:59PM DISAGREEMENTS.
05:54:00PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:54:02PM >>BILL CARLSON: I MISSED THAT CONVERSATION BECAUSE I WAS OUT
05:54:04PM OF THE COUNTRY, BUT I APPRECIATED THE DEPTH OF WHICH YOU ALL
05:54:08PM WENT IN AND ALL THE DETAILS YOU DISCUSSED DURING THAT TIME.
05:54:10PM THE ONE THING I KEPT WANTING TO ADD LISTENING TO IT IS I
05:54:15PM WISH SOMEWHERE, WE CAN THIS IS A VERY RARE THING.
05:54:18PM WE SHOULDN'T DO IT VERY OFTEN.
05:54:21PM THE IDEA OF DOING PLAQUE LIKE COUNCILMAN VIERA TALKED ABOUT,
05:54:25PM THAT IS A GREAT IDEA AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE PLAQUES GO UP
05:54:28PM ALL OVER THE PLACE.
05:54:29PM AND THE -- BUT RENAMING A BUILDING OR ROAD, IT IS A VERY
05:54:33PM DIFFICULT THINGS TO DO.
05:54:34PM AND THERE AREN'T THAT MANY OF THEM.
05:54:37PM AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY DISTINGUISH BETWEEN
05:54:42PM A COMMENDATION AND THIS -- WHICH WE DO MORE OF AND PLAQUES
05:54:46PM THAT WE DO SLIGHTLY LESS OF.
05:54:49PM AND NAMING WHICH IS VERY, VERY FEW.
05:54:52PM THANK YOU.
05:54:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
05:54:54PM THANK YOU.
05:54:54PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: MR. MASSEY -- WHAT IS YOUR NAME?
05:54:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY NAME IS 5:55 P.M.
05:55:02PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THINKING OF HIM.
05:55:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MORRIS'S BIRTHDAY, NOT YOURS.
05:55:08PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MORRIS.
05:55:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU.
05:55:12PM I APPRECIATE IT SHE'S SHELBY I WILL ASK YOU TO MAKE A MOTION
05:55:16PM TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO YOUR RULES IF THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO
05:55:19PM COUNCIL.
05:55:19PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I DID HAVE IT LIFTED UP
05:55:22PM I DID.
05:55:23PM YES, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS.
05:55:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO MAKE A MOTION TO INCORPORATE THE 92
05:55:28PM INTO THE RULES.
05:55:29PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ABSOLUTELY.
05:55:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
05:55:32PM WHO IS THE SECOND?
05:55:33PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:55:35PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:55:35PM ALL RIGHT, MR. SHELBY, 93.
05:55:39PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NEXT UP.
05:55:40PM LET'S START WITH THE RULES YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
05:55:42PM IF I CAN DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION TO PAGE 3, BECAUSE A
05:55:45PM WONDERFUL SUGGESTION TODAY.
05:55:47PM AS YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE GOTTEN A REQUEST, LET'S SAY, ON
05:55:51PM TODAY'S AGENDA.
05:55:51PM A SIGNIFICANT EVENT IS THE -- IS THE APPOINTMENT OF A MEMBER
05:55:56PM OF SENIOR STAFF.
05:55:58PM THAT HAPPENED TODAY.
05:55:59PM WHAT HAPPENS IS, IT NORMALLY APPEARS CONTINUE TO THE CONSENT
05:56:02PM AGENDA AND ALWAYS A REQUEST FOR IT TO BE MOVED UP FOR
05:56:05PM OBVIOUS REASONS.
05:56:06PM SO A DISCUSSION WAS MADE, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD ONE.
05:56:10PM ALREADY SOMETHING NEW IN YOUR ORDER OF BUSINESS CALLED
05:56:14PM "BOARD APPOINTMENTS."
05:56:16PM BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING -- IF ANY, TO BE ABLE TO
05:56:19PM APPEAR SOMEWHERE ON THE AGENDA RATHER THAN PUT IN WITH
05:56:23PM COMMENDATIONS.
05:56:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
05:56:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT IT SAYS THERE, BOARD
05:56:28PM AND ADMINISTRATION APPOINTMENTS.
05:56:29PM SO STAFF WOULD THEN -- THE CHIEF OF STAFF WILL NOT HAVE TO
05:56:33PM SEND A MEMO EVERY TIME TO REQUEST IT TO BE MOVED UP.
05:56:36PM IT WOULD NORMALLY BE UP THERE ON THE.
05:56:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
05:56:44PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
05:56:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:56:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: 5-B WHICH IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:56:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
05:56:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO DO I.
05:56:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:56:58PM I SENT YOU A MEMO THAT IS DATED MAY 22.
05:57:01PM AND I HAD TO CROSS OUT, A STRIKE THROUGH AND UNDERLINE.
05:57:06PM BUT JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT SAYS TODAY, AS PROPOSED, IT
05:57:10PM SAYS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE GIVEN A REASONABLE
05:57:13PM OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD AT TIME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL TAKES
05:57:15PM FINAL ACTION ON A MATTER AND SHALL ADHERE TO ALL TIME
05:57:19PM LIMITATIONS THAT WILL APPLY.
05:57:21PM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE AFFORDED THREE MINUTES UNLESS
05:57:24PM TIME LIMITS A OTHERWISE ESTABLISHED IN THESE RULES OR
05:57:27PM MODIFIED BY COUNCIL OF THE MEETING IN SESSION.
05:57:33PM YOU CAN DO THAT AND YOU DO ALWAYS DO THAT.
05:57:35PM B IS THE ONE MOST SIGNIFICANT NOW.
05:57:38PM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC REQUESTING TO BE HEARD ON AN ITEM THAT
05:57:41PM IS NOT SET FOR PUBLIC HEARING ON THE REGULAR MEETING AGENDA
05:57:45PM SHALL EACH SUBMIT A SPEAKER CARD PRIOR TO GENERAL PUBLIC
05:57:49PM COMMENT.
05:57:49PM THIS ONLY APPLIES TO REGULAR MEETINGS AND GENERAL PUBLIC
05:57:54PM COMMENT.
05:57:54PM DOES NOT APPLY TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
05:57:56PM IT DOES NOT APPLY TO WORKSHOPS.
05:57:59PM DOES NOT APPLY TO CRA.
05:58:02PM OBVIOUSLY THE CRA IS A DIFFERENT AGENCY.
05:58:04PM SHALL PRESENT A SPEAKER CARD PRIOR TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
05:58:09PM CLEARLY IDENTIFYING THEMSELVES BY NAME FOR THE RECORD.
05:58:11PM THE PROCESS GIVE PREFERENCE TO THOSE SPEAKING ON AGENDA
05:58:17PM ITEMS AND PERMIT THE CHAIR TO KNOW THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS IN
05:58:21PM ADVANCE.
05:58:21PM EACH PERSON WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO APPROACH AND SPEAK
05:58:25PM AND YOU CAN DO THAT AT THE POINT THAT -- THE NEXT SPEAKER IS
05:58:29PM LISA EDWARDS TO BE FOLLOWED BY KELLY SHARP TO GIVE THE NEXT
05:58:34PM PERSON NOTICE THAT THEY WILL BE UP NEXT.
05:58:36PM AND THE NEXT PERSON KELLY SHARP FOLLOWED BY MARTIN SHELBY
05:58:39PM AND THE LIKE.
05:58:40PM NOW WHAT -- I HAVE GOTTEN FEEDBACK ON -- I AM OPEN TO
05:58:45PM DISCUSSION ON THIS.
05:58:46PM BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND SIGNIFICANCE OF IT.
05:58:49PM PEOPLE SEE THE LINE THAT SAYS, FIRST OF ALL, IT SAYS EACH
05:58:53PM PERSON WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME TO APPROACH AND SPEAK.
05:58:56PM THEY WILL BE CALLED OUT BY NAME.
05:58:57PM NOT A LINE-UP ALONG THE WALL.
05:58:59PM WON'T BE PEOPLE WHO ARE SITTING DOWN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN
05:59:04PM GETS UP.
05:59:04PM MAKES FOR A MORE ORDERLY TRANSITION.
05:59:07PM TIME LIMITS SHALL APPLY WITH GENERAL PUB PICK COMMENT WITH A
05:59:11PM TOTAL OF 45 MINUTES.
05:59:13PM AND I RECOGNIZE IF THAT IS A PROBLEM, WE CAN ADJUST THAT AND
05:59:17PM ADDRESS THAT AND TAKE THAT OUT AND CHANGE IT TO HOWEVER YOU
05:59:20PM WANT.
05:59:21PM BUT THE WAY I LOOKED AT THAT TIME AT THE TIME WAS THE 45
05:59:24PM MINUTES REFERRED TO IS MERELY A PLACE HOLDER TO ALLOW THE
05:59:30PM COUNCIL TO STOP AND ASSESS HOW THEY WISHES TO CONTINUE.
05:59:34PM AND YOU WILL KNOW AT THAT TIME THAT POINT -- THE CHAIR WILL
05:59:36PM ALWAYS KNOW HOW MANY REMAINING SPEAKERS WISH TO SPEAK OF
05:59:41PM AGENDA ITEMS AND WAITING FOR SPEAK ON MATTERS THAT ARE NOT
05:59:45PM ON THE AGENDA.
05:59:45PM MULTIPLE OPTION IT IS YOU WANT KEEP THAT IN THERE AND STOP
05:59:50PM AFTER 45 MINUTES.
05:59:51PM YOU CAN AGREE UPON ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF TIME WHICH ALLOWS
05:59:55PM THE COUNCIL TO CONTINUE TAKING COMMENT AND NECESSARY TO
05:59:58PM AGAIN STOP AFTER ANOTHER 45 MINUTES OR WHATEVER TO STOP AND
06:00:02PM REASSESS OR TWO, WHAT YOU CONSISTENTLY AND CUSTOMARILY DO,
06:00:06PM PROCEED THROUGH THE REMAINING SPEAKERS.
06:00:08PM HERE YOU WILL PROCEED THROUGH THE REMAINING CARDS WITH NO
06:00:11PM REGARD TO THE LENGTH OF TIME.
06:00:13PM ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT CAME UP THAT WAS ULTIMATELY
06:00:15PM REJECTED BY CITY COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY AT OUR SPECIAL CALLED --
06:00:20PM SPECIAL CALLED MEETING WAS TO CHANGE THE TIME IF IT IS A
06:00:24PM LENGTHY AMOUNT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE TO CHANGE WITH
06:00:28PM OFF-AGENDA ITEMS TO REDUCE IT TO TWO MINUTES.
06:00:31PM THAT IS THE COUNCIL'S OPTION.
06:00:32PM COUNCIL CAN DO THREE MINUTES.
06:00:34PM WHATEVER IT WISHES.
06:00:36PM AND THEN, AGAIN, IF COUNCIL SO CHOOSE FOR WHATEVER REASON,
06:00:39PM YOU CAN END THE MORNING SESSION AT PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:00:42PM MY ADVICE TO ALLOW ALL THOSE WHO HAVE ON-AGENDA ITEMS TO
06:00:46PM HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
06:00:48PM THAT IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT IF IT IS TAKEN FINAL ACTION.
06:00:51PM AND THEN INVITE THE REMAINING SPEAKERS TO SPEAK AT THE END
06:00:55PM OF THE MEETING.
06:00:56PM THOSE ARE NOT WITHIN YOUR RULES, BUT ALL OPTIONS THAT
06:00:59PM COUNCIL HAS.
06:01:00PM WHAT YOU DO HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS A SPEAKER WAIVER --
06:01:07PM EXCUSE ME, A SPEAKER -- A GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT CARD.
06:01:12PM NOT THE SAME AS A SPEAKER WAIVER FORM THAT REMAINS AND ONLY
06:01:16PM APPLIES AT PUBLIC HEARINGS.
06:01:18PM YOU SEE TO MY LEFT -- COMMENT ON THE CARD FIRST.
06:01:22PM YOU NOTICE IT IS VERY, VERY SIMPLE.
06:01:26PM HAS THE DATE, THE NAME, JUST THE CITY AND STATE AND A YES OR
06:01:29PM NO.
06:01:30PM IT ON THE AGENDA ITEM OR OFF-THE-AGENDA ITEM.
06:01:33PM CHECK NO.
06:01:34PM IF YES, WHICH ITEMS AND THEY CAN LIST BY THREE.
06:01:38PM IF THEY HAVE MORE, THEY CAN LIST AS MANY AS THEY WANT.
06:01:41PM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE:THE CARD.
06:01:45PM SEE OTHER SIDE.
06:01:46PM CARDS ARE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
06:01:50PM COMMENT.
06:01:50PM THE REASON IS THIS.
06:01:52PM GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT BEGINS AFTER YOUR INVOCATION, AFTER
06:01:58PM YOUR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA, AFTER THE COMMENDATIONS AND
06:02:02PM AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS.
06:02:03PM AND BY THAT TIME, THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK HAVE THAT
06:02:06PM OPPORTUNITY.
06:02:07PM THEY CAN ALSO REGISTER, BY THE WAY, THIS ALSO DOES NOT DO
06:02:11PM ANYTHING WITH REGARD TO THE PHONE REGISTRATION, THE
06:02:15PM PREREGISTRATION AND BEING ABLE TO CALL IN.
06:02:18PM THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
06:02:19PM WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS THAT PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
06:02:22PM TO SPEAK AND HERE I WILL MOVE MYSELF OVER IF THE CAMERA
06:02:27PM COULD FOLLOW ME OVER.
06:02:30PM TO THE OTHER SIDE.
06:02:32PM THERE WE GO.
06:02:37PM WHAT A VIEW.
06:02:39PM THIS, AGENDA, IS THE -- IS THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT
06:02:44PM SPEAKER BOX.
06:02:44PM ALL IT TAKES IS TO TAKE THIS, FILL THE CARD IN, AND THEN YOU
06:02:50PM DROP IT IN THE BOX.
06:02:51PM WHAT HAPPENS THEN IS AT THE START -- BEFORE GENERAL PUBLIC
06:02:55PM COMMENT, THE CARDS ARE TAKEN OUT.
06:02:57PM AND THEY ARE TAKEN OUT IN THE ORDER OF WHICH THEY WERE PUT
06:03:01PM IN.
06:03:01PM THE LAST CARD IS ALWAYS ON TOP.
06:03:03PM AND IT IS VERY SIMPLE.
06:03:04PM THEY GET CALLED -- THEY GET SORTED INTO TWO PILES.
06:03:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
06:03:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ON-AGENDA, OFF-AGENDA.
06:03:14PM AT THE END OF THE TWO PILES, THE FIRST CARD AT THE VERY
06:03:18PM BOTTOM IS NOW ON THE TOP AND ONLY A MATTER OF GOING THROUGH
06:03:21PM THE PILE OF THOSE ON-AGENDA AND FOLLOWED BY THOSE
06:03:25PM OFF-AGENDA.
06:03:25PM VERY ORDERLY AND WHAT IT DOES, SAVES PEOPLE HAVING TO STAND
06:03:31PM ON LINE, WAIT ON THE WALL.
06:03:32PM AND EVEN AS YOU SPEAK NOW, YOU CAN BE HERE VERY, VERY EARLY.
06:03:37PM BUT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE THE FIRST TO SPEAK UNLESS YOU
06:03:40PM RUSH UP AND STAND ONLINE.
06:03:42PM SO THIS WAY I THINK IT IS MUCH MORE ORDERLY.
06:03:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DOES THAT CONCLUDE THE PRESENTATION?
06:03:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO I WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS.
06:03:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GIVE THE MAN A MIC.
06:03:57PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CITY SEAL IS ON THERE AND WANT TO THANK
06:04:00PM LISA EDWARDS WORKING WITH CITY GRAPHICS TO DO THIS.
06:04:03PM I WANT YOU TO SEE SOME OF THE RULES FOR THE PUBLIC -- I AM
06:04:07PM DOING THIS ALSO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.
06:04:09PM AND CERTAINLY IT IS GOING TO BE -- IF COUNCIL AGREES TO WITH
06:04:13PM THIS PROCESS, IT IS GOING TO BE OBVIOUSLY CHANGED.
06:04:16PM AND CERTAINLY SOME ACCOMMODATION ALSO NEED TO BE MADE UNTIL
06:04:20PM PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
06:04:22PM SO HERE IS WHAT IT SAYS, PLEASE PRINT CLEARLY.
06:04:26PM IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, FILL OUT
06:04:29PM A SPEAKER CARD.
06:04:30PM PLACE IT IN THE BOX.
06:04:31PM CARDS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF GENERAL PUBLIC
06:04:35PM COMMENT.
06:04:35PM EACH PERSON SUBMITTING THE CARD RECOGNIZED BY NAME.
06:04:39PM TIME LIMITS SHALL APPLY.
06:04:43PM AND NAMES CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
06:04:46PM MAY SEEM UNFAIR, BUT PEOPLE WHO CANNOT PRINT CLEARLY, THAT
06:04:50PM IS WHY THE LAST LINE SAYS, IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE, PLEASE
06:04:54PM SEE CITY STAFF.
06:04:55PM I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND WITH JENELLE
06:05:00PM McGREGOR TO SEE IF WE HAVE OUTWARDLY FACING PEOPLE WHO WORK
06:05:03PM WITH NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE PUBLIC.
06:05:04PM AND WE WILL HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HELP AND ASSIST WITH THIS
06:05:09PM PROCESS.
06:05:09PM EVEN -- EVEN RAQUEL PONCHO.
06:05:15PM RAQUEL PONCHO.
06:05:18PM IF SOMEBODY IS NOT PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF GOING THROUGH THIS
06:05:21PM PROCESS, WE WANT TO FACILITATE THAT.
06:05:24PM WE DON'T THAT NOW QUITE FRANKLY.
06:05:27PM DON'T HAVE ANYBODY BY THE LECTERN.
06:05:29PM THAT IT.
06:05:30PM WE WANT TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING MAINTAIN THE SIGN-IN
06:05:36PM SHEETS.
06:05:36PM I HEARD THAT COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TALK THIS MORNING WITH ERIC
06:05:39PM HAYDEN.
06:05:40PM IF COUNCIL WISHES TO GO TO THE DIRECTION OF USING THAT AS A
06:05:44PM SPRINGBOARD TO HAVE AT LEAST THAT FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS, THAT
06:05:47PM IS ALSO A WAY TO DO THIS.
06:05:48PM THIS, BY THE WAY WILL BE ABLE TO BE IMPLEMENTED WHEN THESE
06:05:54PM RULES TAKE EFFECT AFTER YOU MOVE THEM TODAY ON JUNE 20.
06:05:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
06:05:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, SIR.
06:06:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUT THE PAGE BACK UP SHOWING THE
06:06:07PM GUIDELINES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:06:09PM THREE MINUTES AND TWO MINUTES.
06:06:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT IS IN MY MEMO.
06:06:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I JUST NEED IT JUST TO CLARIFY MY POINT
06:06:18PM BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:06:19PM I DON'T AGREE WITH HAVING EVEN WHEN IT IS NOT WRITTEN IN
06:06:27PM STONE THE 45-MINUTE TOTAL BECAUSE I THINK IT IS DISCOURAGE
06:06:30PM PEOPLE FROM COMING.
06:06:31PM I RAN OUT OF TIME.
06:06:33PM I DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK.
06:06:35PM IT CAN BE CONFUSING.
06:06:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: REFRAMED OR TAKEN OUT.
06:06:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TAKE OUT THE 45-MINUTE TIME.
06:06:41PM I DON'T AGREE WITH REDUCING TO TWO MINUTES.
06:06:43PM EVEN IF IT IS AN OFF-AGENDA ITEM.
06:06:46PM I THINK IT SHOULD BE THREE MINUTES.
06:06:48PM THE REASON IS, I SERVED ON THE TPO FOR FIVE YEARS.
06:06:58PM IN THE FIRST TIF MEETING, SIX HOURS OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:07:02PM PEOPLE FILLED OUT CARDS.
06:07:03PM LES MILLER -- COMMISSIONER MILLER WAS THE CHAIRPERSON AT THE
06:07:08PM TIME.
06:07:09PM AND HE READ -- HE DID A QUEUE OF THREE PEOPLE.
06:07:12PM A, B AND C.
06:07:14PM SO TWO PEOPLE END UP.
06:07:17PM ONE PERSON SPOKE.
06:07:18PM EVERYBODY SPOKE.
06:07:18PM WE NEVER REDUCE THE TIME FROM THREE MINUTES TO TWO MINUTES.
06:07:22PM AND WE WERE THERE UNTIL 2:00 IN THE MORNING.
06:07:24PM A YEAR AFTER THAT WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENT FOR FOUR OR FIVE
06:07:28PM HOURS.
06:07:28PM SO WE ARE NOT REDUCING -- OR ELIMINATING OR PROHIBITING
06:07:32PM ANYBODY FROM SPEAKING.
06:07:33PM THE ON-AGENDA ITEMS BEFORE WE GO TO OFF-AGENDA ITEMS.
06:07:37PM THAT MAKES SENSE.
06:07:38PM PEOPLE FILTH THAT OUT ON THE CARD.
06:07:42PM PEOPLE WITH ON-AGENDA ITEMS MAY BE HERE FOR SOMETHING ON THE
06:07:46PM CONSENT AGENDA.
06:07:47PM A FINANCIAL TIE.
06:07:48PM SOMETHING WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:07:50PM PUTTING PEOPLE AT THE -- REMAINING SPEAKERS AT THE END OF
06:07:53PM THE MEETING.
06:07:54PM WE ARE AT 6:00.
06:07:55PM I CAN'T IMAGINE SOMEBODY RUNNING OUT TO THE METER OR USING
06:07:59PM THE APP OR WHATEVER TO PAY A FORTUNE IN PARKING JUST TO BE
06:08:02PM HEARD.
06:08:03PM I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD PUSH ANYBODY TO THE END.
06:08:06PM SO JUST THOSE FEW THINGS WE SHOULD ELIMINATE.
06:08:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY ARE NOT IN THE RULES.
06:08:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BUT WE SHOULD NOT INCLUDE THEM.
06:08:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM NOT EVEN ASKING YOU TO DO THAT.
06:08:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HE JUST TYPED THAT UP.
06:08:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WITH THE CARD, IT IS PRINT VERY CLEARLY.
06:08:22PM I HAD MY NAME BUTCHERED AND MISPRONOUNCED MIND ENTIRE LIFE
06:08:27PM AND I WILL MAKE AN EFFORT TO READ PEOPLE'S NAMES.
06:08:30PM I DON'T THINK IT IS THAT MUCH OF AN ISSUE.
06:08:32PM ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM?
06:08:34PM YES OR NO.
06:08:35PM YES, THESE ARE THE AGENDA ITEMS.
06:08:36PM I'M HERE TO TALK OF THE SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL.
06:08:39PM ITEM NUMBER WHATEVER UNDER STAFF REPORTS OR NO, NOBODY IS
06:08:43PM PROHIBITED.
06:08:44PM I GET PRIORITY FOR WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE GO BY AN
06:08:48PM AGENDA AND GO TO THE NONAGENDA FOLKS.
06:08:51PM OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK.
06:08:54PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:08:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
06:08:56PM I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
06:09:01PM SECTION B AND THE THREE PARAGRAPHS AFTER THAT SHOULD BE
06:09:05PM TAKEN OFF.
06:09:06PM WE ARE -- WE ARE THE ONLY PUBLIC ENTITY IN THE AREA THAT
06:09:13PM ALLOWS PEOPLE TO COME AND SPEAK.
06:09:15PM FOR AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME.
06:09:17PM PEOPLE EXPECT THAT OF US.
06:09:19PM I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE.
06:09:21PM THE FACT -- WHILE I THINK THE IDEA OF THE COMMENT CARD IS
06:09:29PM GOOD, I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO MAKE IT BETTER.
06:09:32PM AND ONE WAY -- AND I THINK THIS IS THE BEST WAY, IS TO HAVE
06:09:36PM A KIOSK TO TYPE IT.
06:09:38PM TYPING SOLVES EVERYTHING.
06:09:40PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BEING PRINTED CLEARLY.
06:09:43PM THAT LADY TODAY TO CAME IN WHO BARELY WALKED UP HERE.
06:09:47PM SHE IS NOT GOING TO ASK FOR HELP.
06:09:49PM SHE JUST ISN'T.
06:09:50PM SHE IS GOING TO LEAVE.
06:09:51PM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE FOR PEOPLE WHO
06:09:53PM COME HERE TO ASK FOR HELP.
06:09:54PM THEY WANT TO COME AND SPEAK TO US.
06:09:57PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO FILL OUT A CARD AND ASK FOR HELP.
06:10:01PM WE ALSO HAD TWO OR THREE PEOPLE WHO CAME IN LATE TODAY
06:10:05PM BECAUSE PEOPLE NOW KNOW THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT AT 9:00.
06:10:09PM PEOPLE CAN GAUGE WHEN TO COME.
06:10:12PM THAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT NOT ALLOWING PEOPLE.
06:10:15PM AND IF YOU HAD IT ON A COMPUTER, THEN IT COULD VERY SIMPLY
06:10:18PM JUST ADD THAT PERSON.
06:10:19PM IF YOU HAD A COMPUTER, YOU COULD TYPE IT IN, AND THEN SAY,
06:10:23PM ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT AN ITEM?
06:10:25PM YES.
06:10:25PM THE OTHER CONCERN IS -- MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT AGENDA
06:10:28PM ITEMS ARE.
06:10:29PM THEY DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS.
06:10:30PM THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THEY KNOW THAT IT IS ON AN
06:10:33PM AGENDA.
06:10:33PM BUT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT TODAY, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW
06:10:36PM WHERE.
06:10:36PM SO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET AN AGENDA THING AND WITH
06:10:42PM LEAF THROUGH IT AND FIGURE IT OUT.
06:10:44PM I AM CONCERNED THAT WE ARE DOUBLING THE TIME TAKES WHEN WE
06:10:48PM CAN SAY, YES, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND HAVE A
06:10:51PM SUBJECT MATTER AND LEAVE IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ORGANIZING
06:10:54PM IT.
06:10:55PM BECAUSE YOU CAN STILL GET A PRINT OUT OF THE ORDER.
06:10:58PM ABSOLUTELY.
06:10:58PM I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA.
06:11:00PM TO -- WHICH -- IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON SOMETHING ON TODAY'S
06:11:04PM AGENDA, BUT THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO -- WHOEVER IS DOING
06:11:07PM IT WILL HAVE TO FIGURE WHAT TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM IS BECAUSE
06:11:11PM PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT.
06:11:12PM THEY ARE GOING TO SAY NO AND THEY END UP TALKING ABOUT
06:11:15PM SOMETHING THAT IS ON THE AGENDA THAT THEY DON'T KNOW IS ON
06:11:17PM THE AGENDA BECAUSE PEOPLE MOST PEOPLE WHO COME HERE DON'T
06:11:21PM HAVE OUR SYSTEM.
06:11:22PM IT TOOK ME FOREVER TO LEARN OUR SYSTEM.
06:11:24PM AND ALSO, WE ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SIGN-IN
06:11:31PM SHEET.
06:11:31PM BY HAVING A KEYS OS CAN, YOU LITERALLY WILL HAVE IT ALL
06:11:36PM TOGETHER.
06:11:36PM PEOPLE COME HERE THAT SUPPORT.
06:11:37PM WE SEE THEM ALL THE TIME.
06:11:39PM THEY DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, BUT THEY ARE HERE TO SUPPORT.
06:11:41PM THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE WHO COME AND SIT DOWN AND HEAR WHAT
06:11:44PM OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY AND CHANGE THEIR MIND AND DECIDE
06:11:47PM THEY WANT TO GET UP AND SPEAK.
06:11:48PM THAT HAPPENS.
06:11:49PM ROBIN LOCKETT, HALF THE TIME WHEN SHE GETS UP HERE, THAT IS
06:11:54PM WHAT SHE IS DOING.
06:11:54PM I AM CONCERNED WE ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM
06:11:57PM FEELING FREE TO COME UP HERE.
06:11:59PM I THINK IT IS -- IF YOU WANT -- I UNDERSTAND THE NEED OF THE
06:12:04PM CLERK AND THE CHAIR TO -- TO SIMPLIFY IT, BUT I THINK THERE
06:12:08PM IS BETTER WAYS THAT DON'T MAKE MORE WORK FOR PEOPLE.
06:12:11PM SO I -- I JUST THINK THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER IN MORE.
06:12:17PM THE T &I GROUP HAVE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN TRY OUT JUST TO
06:12:21PM SEE HOW IT WORKS.
06:12:22PM AND I -- I AM JUST CONCERNED ABOUT ALL OF THIS, BECAUSE
06:12:26PM THERE IS STILL SO MANY UNKNOWNS.
06:12:27PM AND -- AND THE ONLY -- THE THING I DON'T WANT -- I DON'T
06:12:31PM WANT ANYONE TO WALK IN HERE AND FEEL ANY SENSE OF BARRIER TO
06:12:38PM SPEAKING.
06:12:38PM AND A KIOSK TYPE IN, THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT AND SIGN IN
06:12:44PM ANYWAY.
06:12:45PM FOR THEM A SIGN IN.
06:12:46PM AFTER YOU SIGN IN, THEN YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A SPEAKER
06:12:50PM WAIVER FORM.
06:12:51PM NOT A WAIVER FORM, BUT A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD.
06:12:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY DON'T HAVE TO SIGN IN ANYMORE.
06:12:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IFFER IN NOT SIGNING IN, HOW DO WE KNOW WHO
06:13:03PM IS HERE.
06:13:04PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CARDS.
06:13:05PM THEY DON'T SIGN IN.
06:13:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE OKAY HAVING PEOPLE IN CHAMBERS THAT
06:13:10PM AREN'T SPEAKING.
06:13:11PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A PUBLIC MEETING.
06:13:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NORMALLY THEY WOULD SIGN IN.
06:13:16PM SIGN IN.
06:13:16PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, NOT ALWAYS.
06:13:18PM A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO COME UP TO SPEAK HAVE NOT SIGNED IN.
06:13:21PM YOU REALLY -- AND -- AND THE OTHER THING THAT WE ARE
06:13:24PM CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT FILLING OUT A CARD IS A LOT QUICKER
06:13:27PM THAN TYPING IN A KIOSK ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A LONG LINE OF
06:13:31PM PEOPLE LIKE WE DID OUTSIDE TODAY.
06:13:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM ALSO GOING TO TELL YOU THEY WILL NOT
06:13:35PM KNOW WHAT AGENDA NUMBER.
06:13:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
06:13:38PM IF THEY PUT DOWN THE SUBJECT -- THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON
06:13:41PM THAT BOX IS YES OR NO.
06:13:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PUT CRB OR SULPHUR SPRINGS.
06:13:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TAKE AGENDA ITEM OFF.
06:13:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HOW MANY CARDS --
06:13:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HOPE YOU HAVEN'T PRINTED THEM YET.
06:13:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS WAS DESIGNED -- THIS WAS DESIGNED IN
06:13:59PM HOUSE AND PRINTED ON -- IT WAS PRINTED --
06:14:07PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THESE ARE JUST SAMPLES.
06:14:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THEY ARE SAMPLES.
06:14:11PM MANISCALCO WE CAN PUT AGENDA NUMBER OPTIONAL OR -- THEY MAY
06:14:19PM NOT KNOW AND PUT THE BUDGET.
06:14:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD JUST LIKE THE SUBJECT, BUT, AGAIN, I
06:14:27PM STILL THINK THAT A HAND-WRITTEN THING IS GOING TO BE A
06:14:30PM BARRIER.
06:14:31PM AND I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY STRONGLY DISAGREE THAT
06:14:36PM ONCE CARDS ARE ONLY ACCEPTED UNTIL THE BEGINNING OF GENERAL
06:14:40PM PUBLIC COMMENT, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY DISAGREE BECAUSE THIS IS
06:14:43PM WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
06:14:44PM SOMEONE WILL COME UP AND SAY I DIDN'T GET HERE IN TIME AND
06:14:47PM WE WILL LET HIM SPEAK BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
06:14:50PM WE ALREADY DON'T FOLLOW THESE RULES.
06:14:54PM THIS MORNING, EVERYONE SPOKE WITH COMMENDATIONS.
06:14:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
06:14:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BECAUSE WE DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES.
06:15:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EXCUSE ME.
06:15:02PM MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION.
06:15:03PM IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW THE RULES, JUST SAY SO AND I WILL SIT
06:15:07PM DOWN.
06:15:07PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SAY THAT AGAIN.
06:15:10PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF YOU DON'T INTEND ON FOLLOWING THE RULES,
06:15:14PM SAY SO AND I WILL SIT DOWN.
06:15:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MY POINT.
06:15:16PM TODAY OUR COMMENDATION.
06:15:18PM ONE OF US IS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK AND EVERY SINGLE OTHER PERSON
06:15:22PM SPOKE.
06:15:22PM SO IT TOOK TEN MORE MINUTES.
06:15:24PM SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE SUPPOSE TO DO TO SAVE
06:15:28PM TIME.
06:15:28PM AND WE ARE NOT DOING IT ALREADY.
06:15:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE RIGHT.
06:15:31PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE THING --
06:15:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO DIDN'T SPEAK BECAUSE
06:15:37PM FOLLOWING THE RULES.
06:15:38PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THAT STARTED ALREADY.
06:15:39PM I FORGOT ABOUT IT.
06:15:40PM I WON'T BE DOING IT AGAIN THEN.
06:15:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, YOU CAN SPEAK.
06:15:46PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THESE NEW RULES THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF
06:15:48PM ARE YOU NOT IN EFFECT AND DON'T TAKE EFFECT UNTIL JUNE 20.
06:15:51PM WE ARE SCHEDULING EVERYTHING ELSE.
06:15:53PM YOU CAN MAKE -- YOU CAN CAN PROACTIVE NOW, BUT TECHNICALLY,
06:15:59PM UNTIL YOU -- UNTIL YOU PASS IT TODAY IT DOESN'T TAKE EFFECT
06:16:03PM AND NOW FOR JUNE 20.
06:16:05PM ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD, LISA?
06:16:08PM >> NO, I WANT TO SAY WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD, THIS IS
06:16:10PM JUST A SAMPLE, SAMPLE SAMPLE THAT WE DID.
06:16:14PM WE CAN MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT COUNCIL FEELS HAPPY WITH.
06:16:18PM WE WANTED TO SHOW SOMETHING.
06:16:21PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AND IT DOESN'T ADD THINGS THAT OTHER
06:16:24PM JURISDICTION DO LIKE YOUR ADDRESS OR YOUR TELEPHONE NUMBER
06:16:28PM OR YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS.
06:16:29PM MIND YOU -- AND -- IT WAS A SUGGESTION THAT WAS ADDED.
06:16:33PM IT SAYS HERE ON THE BOTTOM.
06:16:36PM TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW JUST LIKE A SIGN-IN SHEET OR
06:16:40PM ANYTHING ELSE YOU TURN IN, IT BECOMES A PUBLIC RECORD.
06:16:43PM IT SAYS INFORMATION PROVIDED ON THIS CARD IS A PUBLIC RECORD
06:16:47PM AND SPEAKERS WILL BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME SPEAK.
06:16:51PM THAT WAY PEOPLE DON'T CHOOSE WHEN THEY GET TO SPEAK.
06:16:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MR. SHELBY, WHEN -- YOU ARE STILL GOING TO
06:16:58PM HAVE TO SCAN KNEES AND PUT IT INTO PUBLIC RECORD.
06:17:02PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CLERK KNOW THAT IS GOING TO BE DONE.
06:17:05PM MIND YOU, THE KEY -- THE KEY HAVING A KIOSK AND STOPPING IT
06:17:10PM AT PUBLIC -- THE START OF PUBLIC COMMENT IS THAT IS WHEN YOU
06:17:15PM KNOW EXACTLY AT THAT POINT IN TIME HOW MANY SPEAKERS THERE
06:17:18PM ARE.
06:17:18PM KEY IS WHOEVER IS WORKING TO WORK THIS THING DOES NOT HAVE
06:17:22PM TO BE THERE THROUGHOUT THE HOUR -- THE HOUR AND A HALF THAT
06:17:24PM PUBLIC COMMENTS TAKE ON THE OFF-CHANCE THAT SOMEONE WILL
06:17:28PM COME THROUGH.
06:17:29PM THAT'S WHY THE CHAIR ALWAYS NOW KNOWS -- HAS NO IDEA HOW
06:17:34PM MANY PEOPLE WILL BE SPEAKING PUBLICLY UNTIL THE END OF THE
06:17:36PM DAY, BUT NOW THE START OF PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WILL BE ABLE
06:17:40PM TO KNOW WHO SPEAKS ON THE AGENDA AND OFF THE AGENDA.
06:17:42PM JUST A SUGGESTION, COUNCIL.
06:17:43PM AND BY THE WAY, I AM VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF GOING THE
06:17:48PM ELECTRONIC ROUTE.
06:17:49PM AND A REMINDER, COUNCIL.
06:17:51PM I DID PRESENT WHAT HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY DOES, AND I SPOKE
06:17:55PM WITH JENELLE.
06:17:57PM HER COUNTERPART IN THE COUNTY AND I INVITED THEM TO GET IN
06:18:02PM TOUCH WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THEY USE KIOSK.
06:18:06PM PREREGISTRATION.
06:18:08PM PEOPLE THAT COME TO CITY COUNCIL AND COME TO THE COUNTY
06:18:10PM COMMISSION AND STAND UP THERE AND SAY I ALREADY SIGNED IN
06:18:13PM THREE DAYS AGO FROM HOME.
06:18:15PM THEY REREGISTER AND WALK IN THE COUNTY COMMISSION.
06:18:20PM I AM IN FAVOR OF THAT, BUT I SUGGEST FOR CITY COUNCIL, THAT
06:18:24PM IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE CROSSED OFF.
06:18:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
06:18:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.
06:18:29PM FIRST OF ALL, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU ALL PUT INTO
06:18:32PM THIS.
06:18:32PM I GOT THE IMPRESSION THIS COMES FROM YOU ALL, BEHIND THE
06:18:37PM SCENES, THE STAFF.
06:18:38PM THAT YOU WANTED THIS BECAUSE -- WHEN WE -- WHEN WE DISCUSSED
06:18:42PM OUR POLICIES AND PROCEED A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK, THIS WAS
06:18:46PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KIND OF KNOCKED OFF AND SAID NO
06:18:49PM TO.
06:18:50PM SO IT IS COMING BACK BECAUSE YOU ALL -- JUST A SECOND.
06:18:53PM THAT IS THE IMPRESSION THAT I -- THAT I GOT FROM SUE LING
06:19:00PM THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS PREFERENCED.
06:19:03PM ONE OF THE THINGS FOR CERTAIN THAT OUR PUBLIC -- THE PEOPLE
06:19:06PM THAT COME AND SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMENT, THEY HAVE STRATEGY.
06:19:10PM THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO WAIT.
06:19:13PM THEY LIKE HEARING OTHER PEOPLE OUT.
06:19:17PM AND THEY -- IT IS A TIMING THING.
06:19:20PM THEY -- THEY ARE GOING TO TOTALLY BE UPSET, I BELIEVE, IF
06:19:28PM THEY ARE CALLED AND THEY ARE CALLED TO SPEAK FOURTH AND THEY
06:19:32PM REALLY WANT TO BE 17th.
06:19:33PM YOU KNOW THAT WILL BE A PROBLEM FOR PEOPLE BECAUSE I SEE
06:19:37PM THEM DO IT ALL THE TIME.
06:19:38PM THE OTHER THING IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO DON'T TALK
06:19:42PM OF AGENDA ITEMS AT ALL.
06:19:43PM AND SO, IT IS BASED ON, YOU KNOW, PROSTITUTES AND WHATEVER
06:19:52PM ELSE THAT MAY BE ON A PERSON'S PARTICULAR MIND THAT DAY.
06:19:55PM OR REPARATIONS AND YOU KNOW, THERE IS THE SUBJECT MATTER.
06:20:01PM ALSO IS AT ISSUE DEPENDING ON HOW YOU ARE GOING TO SORT
06:20:04PM THEM.
06:20:05PM WHAT CATEGORY DO YOU MUTT THEM IN.
06:20:07PM DO THEY GO FIRST OR LAST?
06:20:10PM SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS.
06:20:11PM AND THEN THE OTHER IS THAT CITY AND STATE, IT IS NOT
06:20:15PM NECESSARILY NECESSARY.
06:20:17PM THE FIRST LINE CAN BE FIRST NAME AND LAST LINE CAN BE LAST
06:20:23PM NAME FOR MORE SPACE TO WRITE.
06:20:25PM BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT CITY AND STATE WE ARE FROM.
06:20:29PM BECAUSE THIS IS THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:20:31PM AND, YOU KNOW, I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO
06:20:35PM THIS.
06:20:37PM AND -- THE LIMITATION PART IS ALSO AN ISSUE.
06:20:42PM I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY ELSE, THE COUNTY AND, YOU KNOW,
06:20:46PM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS HAS A RULE OR A
06:20:49PM LIMITATION, BUT REALLY, THAT IS NOT WHAT HOLDS UP OUR
06:20:53PM MEETINGS.
06:20:53PM SO UNLESS IT IS A REALLY, REALLY BIG ISSUE, YOU KNOW, THAT
06:20:59PM COMES FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S DISTRICT.
06:21:02PM WHEN THEY COME, WE WILL BE HERE IN 4:00 IN THE MORNING AND
06:21:07PM WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE THEY WILL BE UPSTAIRS AND DOWNSTAIRS.
06:21:09PM WE CAN'T PREVENT THAT.
06:21:10PM THEY ARE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THAT WE ARE LIMITING SOMETHING
06:21:13PM TO 45 MINUTES.
06:21:14PM THAT IS NOT -- THAT IS NOT --
06:21:17PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ACTUALLY, FRANKLY, THE NIGHT MEETINGS DO
06:21:21PM NOT HAVE TIME LIMITS AT ALL.
06:21:22PM THEY ARE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
06:21:24PM WE HAVE TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT EVIDENCE.
06:21:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON'S PEOPLE.
06:21:30PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: STILL COME AND KEEP US TO 4:00 IN THE
06:21:32PM MORNING AND WEAR RED T-SHIRTS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
06:21:36PM I UNDERSTAND THAT.
06:21:37PM BUT I FEEL THOUGH -- AS THOUGH THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR US
06:21:40PM ARE ASKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
06:21:42PM BUT IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO WORK FOR US THEM.
06:21:47PM AND IF THE CARD IS JUST FOR SIGNING IN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T
06:21:52PM KNOW -- AS SOON AS THE CLERK MAYBE -- THE CLERK HAD THEM.
06:21:55PM SHE GETS THEM ALL.
06:21:56PM AS SOON AS THEY COME UP TO SPEAK, CAN PULL THEIR CARD AND
06:22:00PM SAY, OKAY, THAT PERSON -- BECAUSE SHE HAS -- THE GOAL IS TO
06:22:03PM HAVE THEIR NAME RIGHT.
06:22:04PM IF WE ARE GIVING THEM TO THE CLERK, THE ORDER SHOULD NOT
06:22:07PM MATTER TO US AND WE SHOULDN'T DETERMINE THE ORDER.
06:22:10PM BECAUSE THE ORDER IS ABOUT STRATEGY FOR SOME OF OUR REGULAR
06:22:18PM FOLKS THAT COME.
06:22:18PM YOU KNOW, THEY ARE VERY -- THE REGULAR SPEAKS THEY ARE VERY
06:22:25PM --
06:22:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YEAH, BUT, IT IS STRATEGIC, WHAT ABOUT
06:22:30PM SOMEBODY WHO COMES HERE EARLY AND WANTS TO SPEAK FIRST.
06:22:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE CAN'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.
06:22:35PM AND -- AND PEOPLE CHANGE THEIR MIND.
06:22:38PM EVEN US.
06:22:39PM WE MAY -- I AM NOT GOING TO SPEAK AND SOMEONE SAYS
06:22:43PM SOMETHING, YOU KNOW GUARANTEE IF BILL CARLSON SAYS SOMETHING
06:22:46PM OF EAST TAMPA, I AM TURNING ON MY LIGHT THAT IS GOING TO
06:22:52PM HAPPEN.
06:22:52PM I AM GOING TO HAVE A COMMENT.
06:22:53PM THEY DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WANT TO SPEAK.
06:22:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE QUESTION IS, TO WHAT DEGREE DOES
06:22:59PM COUNCIL WANT TO HAVE SOME SENSE OF ORDER OVER PUBLIC
06:23:03PM COMMENT.
06:23:03PM EVEN TO THE DEGREE ALL THIS KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL BE
06:23:06PM SPEAKING AND HOW --
06:23:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE NEED FOR THE CARD TO RECORD THE NAME.
06:23:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE CLERK HAS SURVIVED IN THE 20 YEARS I
06:23:16PM HAVE BEEN HERE --
06:23:17PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US, ORDER?
06:23:22PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING?
06:23:24PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT YOU REALLY WANT.
06:23:26PM >> WITH THE.
06:23:27PM >> THE REASON WE CAME WITH THIS BECAUSE COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN
06:23:30PM CAME TO US WITH A MOTION --
06:23:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IF WE CAN GO TO THE --
06:23:35PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: HE MADE A MOTION AND SAID WHAT?
06:23:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: LET ME PUT IT ON THE SCREEN.
06:23:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT DID DO YOU, ALAN?
06:23:42PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION FROM COUNCIL.
06:23:43PM A MEMO I SENT TO YOU ON 22nd, MAY REGULAR MEETING AND THERE
06:23:50PM IT SAYS MOTION AND WAS MADE BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:23:54PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
06:23:57PM AND COUNCIL MOVES TO AMEND THE RULES OF PROCEDURE OF
06:24:01PM REQUIRING PUBLIC COMMENT CARD REGISTRATION.
06:24:03PM MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK BEING
06:24:07PM ABSENT.
06:24:08PM THIS WAS A DIRECTION OF COUNCIL.
06:24:09PM AND ALL OF THIS THAT HAS BEEN DONE WAS BEING DONE ON THE
06:24:13PM BASIS OF THAT MOTION.
06:24:14PM >> WASN'T ANYONE BEHIND THE SCENES.
06:24:18PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD BUT NOT THE
06:24:20PM PROCESS AND PROCEDURE OF WHO GOES FIRST AND LAST AND THAT --
06:24:25PM THAT IS NOT A PART OF THE MOTION.
06:24:27PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE WERE LOOKING AT FAIRNESS BECAUSE WHAT
06:24:30PM HAPPENS IS THE PERSON WHO COMES IN EARLY IS THE FIRST PERSON
06:24:32PM PUTTING A CARD HAS A EXPECTATION IF THEY ARE HERE AND RATHER
06:24:36PM THAN LINE UP ON THE WALL BECAUSE COULD BE SOMEBODY THAT
06:24:38PM COMES IN -- I HAVE SEEN THIS HAPPEN -- THAT WANTS TO BE ABLE
06:24:41PM TO SPEAK FIRST, BY THE TIME COUNCILMEMBER -- EXCUSE ME THE
06:24:45PM CHAIR SAYS NOW WE ARE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, THAT WALL IS
06:24:48PM FULL.
06:24:48PM WHEN THAT WALL EMPTIES OUT, OTHER PEOPLE STILL SITTING THERE
06:24:53PM THAT YOU THINK ARE DONE AND SIX MORE PEOPLE GET UP TO SPEAK.
06:24:58PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHY DOES THAT BOTHER YOU SO MUCH.
06:25:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IN ALL CANDOR AND I HEARD THIS FROM MEMBERS
06:25:03PM OF THE PUBLIC, APPLICANT WHO ARE HERE WITH ATTORNEYS, WHO
06:25:07PM HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS WHO ARE SET FOR 9:30, 10:00 IN THE
06:25:12PM MORNING -- 10:0, I HEARD IT FROM STAFF -- PARDON?
06:25:16PM AND -- AND THEN -- AND THEN WHAT WE HEARD IS, YOU DON'T GET
06:25:20PM TO WHAT IS ON THE CITY BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE CONSENT DOCKET
06:25:26PM AND THE PUBLIC HEARINGS UNTIL LATE IN THE DAY.
06:25:28PM AND THE OTHER THING I ALSO JUST WANT TO POINT OUT SO YOU
06:25:31PM KNOW, THAT EVERYTHING -- EVERYTHING ON THIS AGENDA UNDER
06:25:35PM STAFF REPORTS AND CEREMONIAL AND PRESENTATION IS ALL CREATED
06:25:38PM BY MOTIONS OF CITY COUNCIL.
06:25:40PM SO THIS IS YOUR AGENDA.
06:25:42PM WHAT HAPPENS IS, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO COME HERE TO
06:25:45PM SEEK REDRESS FROM THE GOVERNMENT OR TO HAVE SIGN OFF ON THE
06:25:49PM MAYOR AND SIGN OFF WITH A CONTRACT AND THEY HAVE TO GET TO
06:25:53PM THEIR STUFF SOON.
06:25:53PM AND THAT IS THE FEEDBACK THAT -- THAT I HAVE BEEN GETTING,
06:25:57PM THE CLERK HAS BEEN GETTING THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN
06:26:00PM GIVING AND GETTING.
06:26:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: YOU SAY ADMINISTRATION.
06:26:04PM WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
06:26:05PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A LOT OF -- A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN
06:26:08PM THESE RULES THAT COUNCIL DISCUSSED ARE WAYS TO MAKE IT MORE
06:26:13PM EFFICIENT FOR THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO PERFORM THEIR JOB.
06:26:15PM IF THE STAFF IS ONLY HERE -- IF THE STAFF IS HERE -- IF
06:26:20PM SENIOR STAFF IS HERE EVERY THURSDAY OF A REGULAR MEETING,
06:26:23PM THEY HAVE LOST 20% OF THEIR PRODUCTIVITY FOR THE WEEK.
06:26:27PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NOT IF THEY COME BY SCREEN.
06:26:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DEPENDS.
06:26:33PM THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN YOU WILL GET TO THEM FRANKLY.
06:26:35PM PART OF THE PROBLEM.
06:26:37PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THEY ARE WORKING FROM THEIR OFFICE.
06:26:39PM THEY CAN JUST -- IT CAN HAPPEN EASILY, LIKE VIK DID.
06:26:43PM HE LOGGED IN WHEN IT WAS HIS TURN.
06:26:45PM IT IS AN EFFICIENT WAY OF DOING IT.
06:26:48PM THAT IS WHAT I WOULD WANT TO DO KEEP WORKING FROM MY OFFICE.
06:26:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANYWAY, I AM -- THESE ARE NOT MY RULES.
06:26:55PM THESE ARE NOT THE STAFF'S RULES.
06:26:56PM THESE ARE NOT THE CLERK'S RULES.
06:26:59PM ULTIMATELY YOUR RULES.
06:27:01PM THIS IS YOUR MEETING.
06:27:02PM I SIT THERE.
06:27:03PM I AM WILLING TO PLAY PARLIAMENTARIAN IF I HAVE TO, IF THE
06:27:07PM CHAIR WANTS ME TO.
06:27:09PM AGAIN, IF THESE DON'T MEET WITH YOUR I CAN TENSION OF WHAT
06:27:12PM YOU WANT THIS MEETING TO BE, TELL ME HOW WE CAN CHANGE IT
06:27:16PM OTHERWISE WE CAN KEEP THINGS THE WAY WE ARE.
06:27:19PM AND I DO ASK ONE MORE THING.
06:27:21PM BECAUSE I HEARD THIS FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE.
06:27:24PM IF COUNCIL -- IF COUNCIL -- I TAKE A HINT.
06:27:30PM WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
06:27:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE ARE STILL TALKING.
06:27:33PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I WILL SHUT UP.
06:27:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
06:27:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: GO AHEAD.
06:27:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:27:40PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
06:27:43PM JUST VERY, VERY BRIEFLY ON THE CARD ISSUE THAT COUNCILMAN
06:27:47PM CLENDENIN MOTIONED FOR.
06:27:51PM I SUPPORT THAT.
06:27:51PM ANYTHING ELSE I DON'T SUPPORT.
06:27:54PM I DON'T SUPPORT IF YOU ARE OFF AGENDA TIME GOES DOWN TO TWO
06:27:57PM MINUTES.
06:27:57PM I DON'T SUPPORT OVERALL PUBLIC COMMENT TO 45 MINUTES.
06:28:00PM I DON'T THINK WE WILL ENFORCE IT.
06:28:02PM WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THINGS REMEMBER GOING TO ENFORCE.
06:28:04PM THE CARD WE ARE GOING TO ENFORCE.
06:28:06PM BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS WITH THAT.
06:28:09PM WITH REGARD TO THE SUBJECT LINE ON THE AGENDA ITEM.
06:28:12PM THEY CAN EITHER PUT THE AGENDA ITEM OR THE SUBJECT LINE.
06:28:16PM I STRONGLY SUGGEST IT FOR THIS, IF WE DO PASS IT, IT PASSED
06:28:20PM 6-0 LAST TIME.
06:28:21PM IF WE PASS IT TODAY, GIVE IT A MONTH TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC
06:28:25PM ON THIS COULD BE A TEST PERIOD SIX MONTHS FROM NOW.
06:28:31PM THIS IS A DISASTER AND WE GO BACK TO THE SYSTEM AND I THINK
06:28:37PM IT IS SOMETHING THAT ADDRESS AS CHALLENGE WHICH IS
06:28:39PM ORGANIZATION AND ORDER IN US AND NOBODY'S FAULT UP HERE AT
06:28:44PM ALL.
06:28:44PM EVERYBODY DOES A GREAT JOB.
06:28:46PM THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
06:28:48PM A PLACE THAT ACCOMMODATING TO PUBLIC COMMENT HOW SHOULD I
06:28:55PM SAY TAME THE EXCESSES.
06:28:59PM PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT THE REASON WHY.
06:29:01PM AND TAPE THE EXCESSES AND TO ME NOT THE REASON WHY MEETINGS
06:29:14PM WENT LONG.
06:29:15PM IT IS NOT.
06:29:15PM THE CARD YOU PROPOSED, WE CAN REFORM IT A LITTLE BIT AND I
06:29:19PM AM FINE WITH THAT.
06:29:20PM I THINK THAT IS FINE.
06:29:21PM THAT'S IT.
06:29:23PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE ORDER OF THE CARD.
06:29:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF YOU GET HERE, YOU DO IT -- SOMEBODY HAS AN
06:29:31PM AGENDA AND WANT TO SPEAK LAST AND ITS THEIR TIME, I AM
06:29:35PM SORRY, WE HAVE A MEETING TO RUN.
06:29:36PM THAT'S --
06:29:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:29:39PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:29:41PM TWO LITTLE THINGS.
06:29:42PM FIRST OF ALL, I BELIEVE THE CARD HAS TO BE PUT IN SOME
06:29:47PM DEGREE IN SPANISH LANGUAGE BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOME PEOPLE --
06:29:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: DO IT DOUBLE SIDED AND ONE SIDE ENGLISH
06:29:55PM AND ONE SIDE SPANISH.
06:29:57PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SAVE MONEY, THREE LANGUAGES INSTEAD OF
06:29:59PM TWO.
06:29:59PM THE NEXT THING IS THIS.
06:30:01PM I KNOW THAT THE RULE SAYS YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
06:30:03PM BUT IT SHOULD BE IN THE CARD THAT YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO
06:30:05PM SPEAK ON WHATEVER ITEM YOU WANT AND IF NOT, WE ARE GOING TO
06:30:10PM GET CHALLENGED.
06:30:10PM IF IT IS NOT ON THE CARD THAT THEY SIGN, THEY WILL SAY I
06:30:13PM DIDN'T READ THE OTHER PART.
06:30:15PM THIS CARD DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT TIME.
06:30:17PM I BELIEVE JUST FOR SAFETY REASONS, PUT THE THREE-MINUTE TIME
06:30:21PM LIMIT.
06:30:21PM THAT'S ALL.
06:30:22PM JUST MY SUGGESTION.
06:30:23PM YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT.
06:30:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
06:30:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GREAT SUGGESTION.
06:30:27PM I THINK THAT IS A REAL GOOD -- ADDING THE THREE MINUTES SO
06:30:30PM CLEAR COMMUNICATION AND MEETING PEOPLE'S EXPECTATION.
06:30:33PM A GREAT IDEA.
06:30:34PM I THINK EVERYBODY IS KIND OF OVERTHINKING THIS.
06:30:37PM A RELATIVELY SIMPLE PROCESS.
06:30:38PM I DON'T NECESSARY ALY DISAGREE WITH THE AGENDA AND SUBJECT.
06:30:43PM WHICHEVER YOU WANT YOU PICK.
06:30:46PM I DO LIKE THE ORDER.
06:30:47PM ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS OBSERVING IN COUNCIL AND MAKES ME
06:30:51PM UNCOMFORTABLE -- WHEN THINGS HEATED THIS LINING UP ON THE
06:30:57PM WALL.
06:30:57PM IF SOMEBODY -- I THINK IT IS A SECURITY ISSUE.
06:30:59PM WE HAVE ONE PERSON IN HERE THAT IS A POLICE OFFICER.
06:31:02PM IF SOMEBODY WAS REALLY UP TO SOME NEFARIOUS NO GOOD WITH
06:31:08PM HAVING PEOPLE MILLING ABOUT AND HAVE WHAT WE -- THE
06:31:10PM SITUATION WE CREATED.
06:31:11PM I DON'T THINK ANY SECURITY REVIEW WOULD PASS THIS AS AN
06:31:14PM ACCEPTABLE WAY OF DOING BUSINESS.
06:31:16PM NO SECURITY PERSON WOULD SAY THIS IS -- INSIDE THE CHAMBER.
06:31:21PM I MEAN SOMEBODY WHO WANTED TO DO SOMETHING WITH FOLKS
06:31:24PM MILLING ABOUT.
06:31:24PM I ALSO BELIEVE THAT ONCE YOU SET -- ONCE PEOPLE -- PEOPLE
06:31:28PM ARE CREATURES OF HABIT AND GET A CERTAIN LEVEL OF COMFORT
06:31:32PM AND THEY KNOW -- AGAIN, THIS ORDER.
06:31:34PM THEY KNOW WHERE THEN AND WHAT TIME THEY ARRIVE.
06:31:37PM THAT WILL EVENTUALLY AS PEOPLE GET USED TO THIS, THEY WILL
06:31:41PM GET COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
06:31:42PM I THINK WE HAVE TO -- WE CAN'T BE AFRAID OF CHANGE JUST
06:31:46PM BECAUSE IT IS CHANGE.
06:31:46PM WE GIVE THIS A TRY.
06:31:48PM IT IS NOT CONCRETE.
06:31:50PM AND, AGAIN, EVEN ELECTRONIC VERSION.
06:31:52PM NOW IT IS FUNNY THOUGH THAT -- I DON'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE
06:31:56PM WITH YOU BECAUSE I AM A TECH GUY.
06:31:58PM I LIKE THE IDEA OF A KIOSK.
06:32:00PM I THINK IT IS A GREAT IDEA.
06:32:01PM THE IRONY, I WOULD EXPECT THE ARGUMENT TO BE DIFFERENT
06:32:05PM BECAUSE THIS IS THE SIMP FORM AND EVERYBODY IS COMFORTABLE
06:32:10PM WITH PEN AND INK WITH THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND PEOPLE WHO SHOW
06:32:15PM UP HERE INCLUDING CHARLIE MIRANDA WHO IS AFRAID OF COMPUTERS
06:32:19PM AND MAY BE AN OBSTACLE FOR SOME FOLKS.
06:32:22PM AS MARTIN SHELBY SAID KEEPING IT FROM BEING BACKED UP, YOU
06:32:26PM COULD HAVE PEOPLE FILLING OUT CARDS WHETHER HOW MANY KIOSKS
06:32:31PM WILL WE HAVE FOR PEOPLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
06:32:33PM I ALSO AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS OF THE PROPOSAL OF THE TWO
06:32:37PM MINUTE THING.
06:32:38PM A NONSTARTER.
06:32:39PM THAT IS JUST OUT OF THE WAY.
06:32:40PM HAVING THREE MINUTES ON THE CARD IS A BRILLIANT IDEA.
06:32:43PM AND I -- HONESTLY I WAS OKAY WITH THE 45 MINUTES UNTIL VIERA
06:32:48PM SAID SOMETHING THAT TUGGED ON MY INTELLECTUAL STRINGS.
06:32:52PM WE ARE GOING TO WAIVE IT ANYWAY, WHAT IS THE POINT.
06:32:55PM KNOWING THIS COUNCIL, WE WILL WAIVE IT ANYWAY.
06:32:57PM LET'S BE DONE WITH THAT CONCEPT AS WELL AND WE CAN ALWAYS
06:33:01PM REVISIT IT IF WE HAVE TO.
06:33:02PM SO THREE MINUTES.
06:33:04PM TEST OUT THESE CARDS WHETHER IT IS THE AGENDA AND OR
06:33:09PM SUBJECT.
06:33:09PM COMME CI.
06:33:11PM COMME CA.
06:33:14PM I THINK SPANISH ON THE REVERSE SIDE.
06:33:17PM YOU DON'T WANT ME TO IT BECAUSE DAYS DOS CERVEZA FOR FAVOR.
06:33:26PM DONDE ESTAS EL BANO.
06:33:33PM I APPRECIATE THE WORK AND THAT OUR CLERK STAFF REALLY
06:33:36PM SUPPORTS IT.
06:33:37PM OTHER PEOPLE OBSERVE -- THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE SUPPORTS
06:33:40PM THIS.
06:33:41PM I THINK AS PEOPLE GETS COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
06:33:44PM CHANGE IS HARD.
06:33:44PM PEOPLE DON'T LIKE CHANGE.
06:33:46PM IF THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, THEY WILL LIKE THE
06:33:50PM PREDICTABILITY.
06:33:50PM NICE IF PEOPLE STAY SEATED.
06:33:52PM ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY ISSUES AND THE CHAIR SAY WHO
06:33:57PM IS UP NEXT.
06:33:58PM BATTER UP.
06:34:00PM I THINK THIS WILL BE ULTIMATELY BE A GOOD MOVE.
06:34:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THINK IT SHOULD WERE DONE ON A TRIAL
06:34:07PM PERIOD.
06:34:08PM TRY IT FOR A FEW MONTHS, 90 DAYS.
06:34:11PM IF IT IS A TOTAL FAILURE --
06:34:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN DO IT OURSELVES.
06:34:16PM LET IT GO.
06:34:18PM WE ALWAYS -- EVERYTHING -- THIS COUNCIL, EVERYTHING IS
06:34:21PM SUBJECT TO REVIEW AT ANY GIVEN MEETING.
06:34:24PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOUR RULES ALLOW YOU TO WAIVE YOUR RULES
06:34:26PM FOR ANY PARTICULAR -- [ LAUGHTER ].
06:34:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A RULE TO WAIVE OUR RULES.
06:34:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I CAN SHOW IT TO YOU.
06:34:32PM COUNCIL, WHILE WE ARE ON SUBJECT, I KNOW --
06:34:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:34:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO I AM JUST GOING TO HAM THEY ARE AGAIN.
06:34:42PM THE PUBLIC IS WHY WE ARE HERE.
06:34:44PM WE NEED TO MAKE SPACE FOR THEM.
06:34:46PM WE HAVE BIG BUSINESS, BUT THE PUBLIC IS OUR BUSINESS.
06:34:49PM SO THEY SHOULD -- IF THEY COME DOWN HERE, FIND A PARKING
06:34:54PM SPACE, PAY FOR THE PARKING SPACE AND COME HERE, THEY WANT TO
06:34:58PM BE HEARD.
06:34:58PM SO THEY ARE THE REASON WE ARE HERE.
06:35:00PM THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH THE ORDER.
06:35:02PM I DISAGREE WITH THAT.
06:35:06PM BECAUSE COMMENT CARDS ARE NOT GOING TO BRING ORGANIZATION TO
06:35:09PM THIS.
06:35:09PM THE WHOLE NATURE IS THAT EVERY DAY IS DIFFERENT.
06:35:13PM WE CAN'T BUY TIME, FIGURE OUT WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE AND
06:35:18PM WHAT WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING.
06:35:19PM WE HAVE A BALL PARK.
06:35:20PM WE KNOW STAFF REPORTS ARE GOING TO BE IN THE AFTERNOON AFTER
06:35:24PM LUNCH, THAT IS ABOUT ALL WE KNOW.
06:35:25PM AND SOMETIMES THEY ARE EARLIER.
06:35:27PM BUT USUALLY THEY AREN'T.
06:35:31PM AND THAT IS NEVER GOING TO CHANGE.
06:35:33PM SO I GUESS, AS A FORMER TEACHER -- AND I THINK THIS IS WHY
06:35:39PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IS ALSO KIND OF LIKE -- I THINK WE
06:35:42PM HAVE THE SAME WAVELENGTH HERE.
06:35:44PM IF WE ARE USED TO WORKING IN -- FLEXIBILITY.
06:35:47PM YEAH.
06:35:48PM THAT IS REALLY WHAT YOU DO.
06:35:50PM YOU ARE USED TO -- YOU ARE READY TO GO.
06:35:52PM SO I -- I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE ORDER OF
06:35:56PM OUR MEETINGS.
06:35:57PM I THINK THEY GO VERY WELL.
06:35:59PM COMMENT CARDS WILL NOT BRING THE ORGANIZATION THAT YOU ARE
06:36:03PM LOOKING FOR, BECAUSE THE NATURE OF THIS JOB, OF THIS
06:36:07PM MEETING, IS FLEXIBLE.
06:36:08PM AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING UP THE POSITIONS,
06:36:15PM BECAUSE AS A FORMER NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER, WE DID.
06:36:18PM THAT IS PART OF -- THAT IS THE PART OF THE STRATEGY AS TO
06:36:22PM WEB YOU SPEAK.
06:36:23PM AND -- AND, AGAIN, THERE IS -- THERE IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT
06:36:31PM RULE DASH WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY YOU GO ABOUT IT WHEN YOU ARE
06:36:35PM SITTING ON THAT SIDE AND THE THING IS, YOU ARE CONCERNED OF
06:36:42PM THE KIOSK VERSUS THE CARDS.
06:36:46PM HAVING AN ACTUAL KIOSK IS BASICALLY THE SAME THING AND
06:36:53PM PEOPLE WILL NOT STAY SEATED.
06:36:54PM THEY JUST WON'T PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO DON'T LIKE TO SIT.
06:36:59PM THEY ARE GOING TO STAND BECAUSE THEY WANT TO STAND.
06:37:01PM EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT CALLED TO NUMBER 20, THEY WILL STAY
06:37:05PM STANDING BECAUSE THAT'S MO THEY ARE.
06:37:06PM SO YOU CAN TELL WHO ARE STANDERS BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS STAND.
06:37:11PM BUT -- I AM JUST SAYING, JUST KNOWING WHAT I KNOW OF HUMAN
06:37:16PM NATURE AND -- WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THESE SAME PEOPLE
06:37:19PM FOR YEARS AND YOU CAN TELL WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE THEY ARE.
06:37:21PM SO THIS -- THIS IS WHAT I WOULD -- WHAT I WOULD -- I AM
06:37:25PM STILL NOT FOND OF THIS, BUT THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO
06:37:28PM TRY.
06:37:29PM HOW ABOUT WE DO BOTH THE KIOSKS AND THE CARDS FOR DIFFERENT
06:37:33PM MEETINGS.
06:37:34PM AND FIGURE OUT AFTER SIX MONTHS, LIKE, WHICH ONE PEOPLE SEEM
06:37:39PM TO LIKE BETTER.
06:37:40PM WHICH ONE WE HAVE LESS CHAOS WITH SO WE CAN DO -- THEY WANT
06:37:47PM A SLOW ROLLOUT FOR THIS KIOSK THING ANYWAY.
06:37:51PM THEY WON'T BE FOR WORKSHOPS.
06:37:54PM THESE CARDS WON'T BE FOR WORKSHOPS, TRY IT FOR WORKSHOPS AND
06:37:59PM CRA AND USE IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:38:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH.
06:38:03PM IF WE DID THAT, THE KIOSK WITH ZILLCRA AND MOVE FORWARD --
06:38:10PM MAYBE THIS IS THE FUNDAMENTAL DISAGREEMENT OF HOW WE
06:38:13PM PERCEIVE OUR ROLES.
06:38:15PM THERE ARE OVER 400,000 PEOPLE LIVING IN THE CITY OF TAMPA
06:38:18PM THAT WE ARE HERE FOR, NOT JUST THE FOLKS THAT SHOW UP IN
06:38:21PM COUNCIL CHAMBER.
06:38:22PM WE ARE HERE TO REPRESENT HUNDREDS THOUSANDS OF OTHER PEOPLE.
06:38:25PM AND OUR JOB TO EFFICIENTLY UTILIZE THE RESOURCES.
06:38:31PM AND I THINK THAT IS PART -- THIS MAY BE A STRUGGLE HERE IS
06:38:36PM FINDING THAT BALANCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
06:38:37PM YOU KNOW, I THINK -- THIS IS SUCH A SMALL ASK, ESPECIALLY
06:38:42PM FOR OUR STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD.
06:38:44PM I -- I DON'T HAVE THINK PROBLEM FOLLOWING YOUR SUGGESTION --
06:38:49PM BECAUSE I THINK THAT PROBABLY ULTIMATELY WHERE WE WILL MOVE
06:38:52PM TO IS ELECTRONIC.
06:38:53PM LIKE OTHER PEOPLE.
06:38:54PM OTHER FORMS DO.
06:38:56PM SO I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
06:38:58PM USE THIS FORM FOR COUNCIL.
06:39:00PM AND RUN A TEST PERIOD FOR KIOSKS FOR OTHER MEETINGS.
06:39:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OTHER CHANGES I WOULD RECOMMEND TAKE CAN THE
06:39:08PM DATE OFF AND CITY AND STATE OFF.
06:39:10PM THE DATE ONLY BECAUSE EVERYTHING WILL BE FOR THAT ONE DAY.
06:39:13PM AND THEN WE WILL KNOW --
06:39:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: SORRY TO INTERRUPT, WHO WILL PUT THE DATE
06:39:22PM ON.
06:39:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SCANNED IN ONE DAY.
06:39:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT IF IT GETS SEPARATED.
06:39:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TAKE THE CITY STATE.
06:39:29PM TAKE AGENDA NUMBER OFF.
06:39:31PM I THINK PEOPLE WILL BE CONFUSED BY IT.
06:39:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S SEE IF IT IS CONFUSING.
06:39:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
06:39:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S JUST SEE.
06:39:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: TAKE THE CARDS ACCEPTED UNTIL THE START OF
06:39:43PM THE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:39:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS IS GOING TO
06:39:47PM BE STAFFED.
06:39:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ULTIMATELY WE ARE GOING TO LET THEM SPEAK
06:39:51PM ANYWAY.
06:39:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NOT NECESSARILY.
06:39:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT IS WHO WE ARE.
06:39:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I MAKE A MOTION.
06:39:58PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM SORRY.
06:40:02PM I DON'T WANT TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE.
06:40:05PM THAT IS NOT MY ROLE.
06:40:06PM I AM ASKING COUNCIL TO GIVE ME CLEAR DIRECTION AND I HEAR
06:40:10PM DIFFERENT THINGS FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
06:40:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL VOTE AGAINST IT IF IT INCLUDES WAITING
06:40:16PM -- STOPPING, ALLOWING PEOPLE.
06:40:19PM I THINK, AGAIN, WE CAN SEE HOW YOU IT GOES.
06:40:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S SEE HOW THIS GOES.
06:40:25PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: CAN WE HAVE ONE VOTE RIGHT NOW.
06:40:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE
06:40:31PM ACCEPT THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC COMMENT FORM WITH THE
06:40:33PM ADDITION OF CLARIFYING THREE MINUTES AND SPANISH LANGUAGE ON
06:40:36PM THE REVERSE SIDE.
06:40:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: AND ELIMINATING THAT 45-MINUTE THING.
06:40:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SEPARATE FROM THE COMMENT CARD.
06:40:45PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THAT WAS A PREVIOUS MOTION, MADAM CLERK,
06:40:49PM THE 45 MINUTES.
06:40:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION.
06:40:51PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: EVERYTHING THAT FOLLOWED THE 45 MINUTE IS
06:40:55PM NOT IN THE RULE.
06:40:56PM IT WAS PART OF MY SUGGESTION.
06:40:58PM THE 45-MINUTE -- THE LAST SENTENCE OF SECTION 5 C IS THE 45
06:41:05PM MINUTES THAT THAT CAN COME UP.
06:41:08PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT WAS JUST SAID.
06:41:10PM I ADD THAT.
06:41:11PM LET'S CLARIFY, MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE PUBLIC COMMENT
06:41:16PM FORM WITH ADDITION OF CLARIFICATION THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS IS
06:41:19PM THREE MINUTES.
06:41:19PM ADDITION OF HISPANIC -- OF SPANISH LANGUAGE ON THE REVERSE
06:41:24PM SIDE OF THIS.
06:41:25PM AND ELIMINATE THE 45 MINUTES RULE THAT IS INCLUDED IN
06:41:30PM SECTION B.
06:41:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE AN AMENDMENT.
06:41:34PM B, SUBSECTIONS 5.
06:41:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SUBSECTIONS 5.
06:41:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ROLL OUT THE PUBLIC SPEAKER COMMENT CARDS FOR
06:41:45PM REGULAR MEETINGS ONLY.
06:41:47PM AND TRY THE KIOSK VERSION FOR CRA.
06:41:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE TO DO THAT IN A CRA MEETING.
06:41:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND USE THE KIOSK FOR WORKSHOPS.
06:41:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I PRESENT THIS TO YOU IS ONLY FOR GENERAL
06:42:02PM PUBLIC WHICH WILL BE ONLY AT REGULAR MEETINGS ANYWAY.
06:42:06PM THIS IS ONLY TO BE USED ON THE FIRST AND THIRD.
06:42:09PM AND THEN -- NO OTHER TIME.
06:42:12PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHICH IS WHY PART OF THE MOTION WILL BE --
06:42:14PM THE ONLY REASON -- THE ONLY WAY I AM VOTING FOR THIS IF WE
06:42:18PM ARE DOING THE -- THE KIOSK AS PART OF IT.
06:42:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SUPPORT THE KIOSK.
06:42:23PM WE HAVE TO DO THE KIOSK DURING THE CRA MEETING.
06:42:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, THE WORKSHOP.
06:42:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND THE MOTION -- AS A SECONDERER, I
06:42:35PM SUPPORT THIS AND VOTE ON THIS.
06:42:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CALL THE QUESTION, RULE SUBSECTIONS.
06:42:43PM B.
06:42:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I AM NOT IN A LOOP ON THAT.
06:42:47PM A BUDGETARY IMPACT ON THAT AND WIN THAT COMES FORWARD.
06:42:51PM THAT MAY BE AN AMENDMENT OF CITY COUNCIL BUDGET.
06:42:54PM SO KEEP IN IN MIND.
06:42:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SAY THAT AGAIN SOMEBODY IN.
06:42:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COST MONEY.
06:42:59PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERYTHING COSTS MONEY.
06:43:01PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WE WERE INFORMED THAT AND BUDGETARY IMPACT.
06:43:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE AND WE HAVE MORE.
06:43:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE REASON WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS IS THEY
06:43:14PM ARE WANTING TO ROLL THESE KIOSKS OUT IN ALL PUBLIC
06:43:18PM BUILDINGS.
06:43:18PM IF YOU GO TO T-MOB, THAT'S HOW YOU WILL SIGN IN.
06:43:22PM MAKE BRINGING IT TO COUNCIL MAKES SENSE BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL
06:43:27PM BE USED TO IT.
06:43:28PM HANNA WILL HAVE IT.
06:43:29PM T-MOB WILL HAVE IT.
06:43:32PM GOING TO BE DOWNSTAIRS.
06:43:33PM WHEN THEY COME UP, THEY CAN --
06:43:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU GOT YOUR AMOUNT.
06:43:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION.
06:43:41PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:43:42PM ANY OPPOSED?
06:43:44PM THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
06:43:46PM THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
06:43:48PM LISA, YOU ARE GREAT.
06:43:49PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
06:43:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
06:43:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN MAKE SIMPLE COMPLICATED JUST LIKE.
06:43:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A SPECIAL SKILL.
06:43:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:43:58PM WE WILL GO TO NEW BUSINESS.
06:44:00PM SIR?
06:44:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CLAIRE PRO TEM RECOGNIZES CHAIRMAN
06:44:05PM MANISCALCO.
06:44:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT A COMMENDATION FOR
06:44:09PM ROY HARRISON CROSS COUNTRY COACH FOR 42 YEARS.
06:44:12PM HE IS A LEGENDARY COACH WITH LIFE SKILL MENTORING AND
06:44:16PM COACHING YOUNG WOMEN DURING HIS ENTIRE CAREER.
06:44:18PM I WILL COORDINATE AN APPROPRIATE DATE FOR THIS COMMENDATION.
06:44:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
06:44:23PM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:44:25PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:44:26PM OPPOSED?
06:44:28PM AYES HAVE IT.
06:44:28PM HIGH TEMPERATURES, HURTAK IS WHAT I HEARD FIRST.
06:44:32PM MAYBE I WAS HEARING WRONG.
06:44:34PM OKAY.
06:44:35PM WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR GAVEL BACK OR I WILL STEAL.
06:44:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:44:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:44:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I AM JUST SAYING.
06:44:45PM BILL CARLSON HAS BEEN VERY QUIET.
06:44:48PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE HE IS STILL HERE.
06:44:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO TALK.
06:44:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT ME, I LOVE CONVERSATION.
06:44:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AYES HAVE IT.
06:44:59PM IT WAS UNANIMOUS.
06:45:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, DO YOU HAVE NEW
06:45:05PM BUSINESS?
06:45:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES, OFFICER RICHARD MERCADO, THE
06:45:11PM MUNICIPAL GUARD RETIRING AFTER YEARS OF SERVICE, LIKE 17 OR
06:45:15PM LONGER WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:45:16PM I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS COMMENDATION THE LAST DAY OF THE
06:45:20PM CITY OF TAMPA, THE DAY HE WORKS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHICH
06:45:22PM IS SEPTEMBER 192024.
06:45:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
06:45:26PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:45:27PM ANY OPPOSED?
06:45:29PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE SECOND ONE, WOULD LIKE A MOTION TO
06:45:31PM ASK TECO --
06:45:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHO WAS THE SECOND?
06:45:35PM COUNCILMAN VIERA WAS THE SECOND.
06:45:37PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A MOTION FOR TECO TO COME BEFORE CITY
06:45:41PM COUNCIL OF THE PROPOSED RATE INCREASE AND HARDSHIP
06:45:43PM ASSISTANCE.
06:45:43PM WE DID ONE FOR THE CITY AND WE FOUND OUT THERE IS HARDSHIP
06:45:48PM ASSISTANCE FOR THE RESIDENCE AND ANY DATE THEY WANT IN
06:45:51PM AUGUST.
06:45:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA --
06:45:54PM MIRANDA.
06:45:55PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:45:57PM >>BILL CARLSON: I NEED TO ABSTAIN FROM THAT ONE.
06:46:02PM I HAVE A CLIENT.
06:46:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NEW BUSINESS, TO INVITE TECO TO DISCUSS
06:46:07PM THE RATE INCREASE.
06:46:08PM A DATE TO BE DETERMINED BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE COORDINATE
06:46:11PM THE.
06:46:11PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CALL 813-274-2474.
06:46:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR --
06:46:19PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ANNOUNCE IT PLEASE.
06:46:20PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ONE MORE.
06:46:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HE HAS TO ANNOUNCE THE VOTE.
06:46:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CARLSON ABSTAINING.
06:46:27PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN YOU ANNOUNCE THAT I AM ABSTAINING.
06:46:31PM >>CLERK: WITH CARLSON ABSTAINING.
06:46:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:46:35PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE NEXT ONE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA WON THE
06:46:38PM FIRST GAME 9-3 AGAINST INDIANAPOLIS, SEVENTH RANKED TEAM.
06:46:46PM NUMBER SIX IN THE COUNTRY AND THIS AFTERNOON, THEY BEAT
06:46:49PM NUMBER THREE 7-2.
06:46:52PM BUT ANGELA STATE AND IUP SOME AT 1:30 AND THE OFFICE OF THE
06:47:00PM CHAMPIONSHIP AND TAMPA WILL BE IN IT.
06:47:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS THE SPORT?
06:47:05PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: UNITED STATES BASEBALL CHAMPIONSHIP
06:47:08PM DIVISION 2.
06:47:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
06:47:11PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GO SPARTANS.
06:47:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:47:16PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: RESULTS.
06:47:18PM THIS IS JUST A MOTION.
06:47:19PM [LAUGHTER]
06:47:21PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT SOUNDED LIKE A MOTION THAT THE POINT.
06:47:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE NEED IT IN THE RECORD.
06:47:25PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE WILL FIND OUT IF THEY WIN.
06:47:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CERTIFY THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA AS WINNER.
06:47:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GO AHEAD, SIR.
06:47:31PM >>LUIS VIERA: CORPORAL CARLOS BRITO FROM SHERIFF'S OFFICE
06:47:38PM AND DETECTIVE SANTOS, THE GENTLEMAN INJURED WHEN A PERSON
06:47:43PM RAN IN FRONT OF HIM.
06:47:44PM TERRIBLE INJURIES.
06:47:45PM I WAS SETTING SOMETHING UP HERE WITH THE CITY AND I WANTED
06:47:49PM TO GIVE HIM A CITY OF TAMPA COMMENDATION.
06:47:51PM I DON'T KNOW WHEN.
06:47:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE A MOTION.
06:47:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
06:47:55PM I HAVE A CHECK FOR BOTH THE GENTLEMAN IN MY CHECKBOOK.
06:47:59PM I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG.
06:48:00PM I DIDN'T KNOW WHO TO MAIL IT TOO.
06:48:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MAKE SURE THE DATE IS NOT LONGER THAN 90
06:48:08PM DAYS.
06:48:08PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: A RUBBER CHECK.
06:48:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:48:12PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN.
06:48:16PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A MEETING ON THE NEW TAMPA RECREATION
06:48:21PM CENTER IN WHAT APPEARS TO BE FROZEN POSITIONS FOR TAMPA
06:48:26PM PARKS AND REC THAT AFFECT THE NUMBER OF REC CENTERS.
06:48:30PM I WANTED TO GET A REPORT.
06:48:31PM IT CAN BE IN WRITING AUGUST 22 FROM PARKS STAFF ON FROZEN
06:48:43PM POSITIONS.
06:48:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:48:46PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
06:48:48PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:48:49PM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR NEW TAMPA ALL ABILITIES PARK.
06:48:53PM I SPOKE TO MR. MUSKY OF HAVING SIGNS OUT THERE THAT ARE
06:48:57PM DISABILITY FRIENDLY SIGNS TALKING OF AUTISM AWARENESS.
06:49:01PM DOWN SYNDROME AWARENESS TO PROMOTE THAT IDEA IN THE PARKS.
06:49:04PM I DO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT SEPTEMBER 19, 2024.
06:49:07PM AGAIN A REPORT.
06:49:08PM DON'T NEED FOR IN PERSON.
06:49:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:49:12PM A SECOND?
06:49:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SECOND.
06:49:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:49:16PM OPPOSED?
06:49:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: NOT A MOTION, BUT KARAOKE AT FOREST HILLS.
06:49:21PM I HOPE TO SEE EVERYBODY THERE.
06:49:23PM WE WILL PICK A SONG TO EMBARRASS.
06:49:26PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT YOU DID LAST YEAR -- LIKE A YEAR AGO
06:49:28PM AT THIS TIME.
06:49:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU CAN COME.
06:49:33PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I CAN'T COME.
06:49:33PM MY LIFE IS FULL OF THINGS TO DO.
06:49:35PM >> WHOA!
06:49:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TOUR GOOD FOR US.
06:49:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE STUFF TO DO.
06:49:41PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU DON'T WANT TO SING MY MOCKING --
06:49:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I HAVE TO RUN THE BOOK STORE.
06:49:48PM I HAVE STUFF TO DO.
06:49:50PM YOU KNOW WHAT I JUST WATCHED -- I WATCHED THE VIDEO OF
06:49:55PM HURTAK, YOU AROUND ME CHOPPING, STRIKING, GO BULLS.
06:49:58PM AND I JUST WATCHED IT THIS MORNING, LIKE A COUPLE OF TIMES.
06:50:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE TO SAYS IT COOL.
06:50:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SO COOL.
06:50:05PM Y'ALL DIDN'T COME AND YOU WERE INVITED.
06:50:08PM OKAY.
06:50:09PM I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THE TAMPA METROPOLITAN ALUMNI
06:50:14PM CHAPTER OF DELTA SIGMA TH ETA, INC. IN CELEBRATION OF DELTA
06:50:21PM DAYS ON CITY HALL JUNE 13 AND TO BE PRESENTED OFFSITE.
06:50:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
06:50:29PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
06:50:31PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: IT IS SO GOOD.
06:50:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, ANY NEW BUSINESS.
06:50:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DO NOT.
06:50:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOPE.
06:50:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, I NEED -- I FILED MY FORMS A,B WITH
06:50:46PM THE CLERK.
06:50:46PM I NEED A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
06:50:48PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHAT FOR?
06:50:50PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE DISCLOSURE FORMS.
06:50:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
06:50:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:50:58PM SECOND CLENDENIN.
06:51:00PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:51:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OTHER COMMENT REAL FAST IF I COULD.
06:51:04PM YOU PROBABLY SAW THE ARTICLE TODAY AND IT -- IT -- I WAS AT
06:51:10PM CONFERENCE AT THE KENNEDY SCHOOL AND THEY WERE TALKING OF
06:51:13PM THE TRUMP TRIAL AND THAT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF VALUE THAT
06:51:17PM CREATES.
06:51:18PM AND WHATEVER YOU THINK OF THE ARTICLE, IT CREATED SOME
06:51:20PM PUBLICITY VALUE.
06:51:22PM THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME OF THING LIKE THAT.
06:51:25PM I AM SOMEONE THAT PRIDES MYSELF OF BEING ETHICAL.
06:51:28PM AS YOU KNOW I HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THE LAST COUPLE OF
06:51:31PM ADMINISTRATION FOR ETHICS ISSUES WHICH IS WHY THEY FIRE BACK
06:51:35PM AT ME.
06:51:35PM BUT -- I RECUSE MYSELF WITH AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION A LOT OF
06:51:41PM TIMES.
06:51:41PM THE ETHICS COMMISSION WOULD RATHER HAVE YOU RECUSE YOURSELF
06:51:45PM THAN NOT.
06:51:45PM AND THEY EVEN HAD THE ADMINISTRATION PUSH A STORY A COUPLE
06:51:50PM OF YEARS AGO OF ACCUSED ME OF RECUSING MYSELF TOO MANY TIMES
06:51:54PM AND RIDICULOUS AND THE ETHICS COMMISSION SAID IT WAS NOT
06:51:58PM VALID.
06:51:58PM ANYWAY, FIVE YEARS AGO, I WENT TO THE ETHICS COMMISSION
06:52:03PM REEMPT I HAVE ITLY.
06:52:04PM I SPENT THE WHOLE DAY THERE AND PRESENTED TO THEM TO THE
06:52:09PM ETHICS COMMISSION BOARD WHAT I CAN DO AND NO NOT DO.
06:52:12PM PRESUMPTIVE DECISION SO NOBODY WOULD SHOT HOLES.
06:52:18PM SOMETHING THAT NOBODY EVER DOES.
06:52:19PM I WANT TO PROTECT MYSELF, MY OWN REPUTATION, CLIENTS AND
06:52:24PM COMPANY.
06:52:24PM AND IT IS FRUSTRATING WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO DRAW CONCLUSIONS.
06:52:28PM THE DIFFICULTY I HAVE IS THAT WHEN SOME THINGS ARE ON THE
06:52:31PM AGENDA, I CAN CHECK IT AND DO A THOROUGH BACKGROUND CHECK ON
06:52:35PM WHAT IT IS.
06:52:36PM I HAVE FIVE -- OUR OR FIVE OFFICES WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE
06:52:40PM DOING LOTS OF THINGS.
06:52:41PM AND I ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEONE ELSE THAT RUNS MY FIRM DAY TO
06:52:44PM DAY BECAUSE I HAVE TO SPEND MOST OF MY TIME HERE.
06:52:47PM DIFFICULTY IN NEW BUSINESS.
06:52:48PM WHEN YOU ALL BRING SOMETHING IN NEW BUSINESS, I NEVER KNOW
06:52:51PM -- LIKE -- COUNCILMAN MIRANDA JUST DID.
06:52:55PM I NEVER KNOW WHAT IS COMING IN NEW BUSINESS.
06:52:56PM AND YOU ALL COULD MENTION GIVING A COMMENDATION TO SOMEBODY.
06:52:59PM FOR ALL I KNOW A SENIOR OFFICIAL OF A CLIENT COMPANY.
06:53:02PM SO I ALWAYS HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
06:53:06PM IF I KNOW A BIT OF IT, I CAN TRY TO ADDRESS IT.
06:53:10PM YOU WILL MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE THESE ISSUES OF THE BUSINESSES
06:53:14PM YOU ARE IN, BUT MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE IN REGULAR BUSINESS IN
06:53:18PM PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF ISSUES.
06:53:22PM JUST SO YOU AND THE PUBLIC KNOW I TURN DOWN ANY CLIENT THAT
06:53:26PM HAS TO DO WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA.
06:53:27PM AND NONE OF MY STAFF ARE ALLOWED TO DO ANY BUSINESS IN THE
06:53:31PM CITY OF TAMPA.
06:53:32PM I EVEN BROUGHT MARTY TWICE TO MY OFFICE TO GIVE ALL MY STAFF
06:53:36PM A LESSON ON WHAT THEY CAN NOT DO AND ALL MY STAFF UNDER
06:53:40PM STRICT INSTRUCTION THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING RELATED TO THE
06:53:44PM CITY OF TAMPA.
06:53:44PM I WANT YOU ALL AND MY COLLEAGUES AND THE PUBLIC TO KNOW I
06:53:47PM TAKE ETHICS VERY SERIOUSLY AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO
06:53:50PM EVERYTHING THAT I CAN.
06:53:51PM IF ANY WAY YOU CAN NOT BLINDSIDE ME IN NEW BUSINESS, THAT
06:53:54PM WILL BE VERY APPRECIATED.
06:53:56PM BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I WILL DO MY BEST TO PREEMPTIVELY
06:54:00PM RECUSE MYSELF.
06:54:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
06:54:03PM I WOULD LIKE TO COMPLAIN TO THE TAMPA BAY TIMES.
06:54:08PM IT SEEMS AS IF THEY PHOTO SHOPPED YOUR TIE OUT OF THE
06:54:12PM PICTURE.
06:54:12PM AND HOW COME YOU GET A PICTURE THAT YOU LOOK PRETTY GOOD AND
06:54:15PM EVERY TIME THEY TAKE A PICTURE OF ME R I LOOK LIKE A
06:54:20PM HOMELESS PERSON.
06:54:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: I APPRECIATE YOU ADDRESS THAT IN PERSON
06:54:26PM IN FRONT OF US BECAUSE A TOUCHY SUBJECT AND --
06:54:30PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE FACT HE DOESN'T WEAR A TIE.
06:54:32PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THE FACT OF THE ARTICLE THAT HE DOES PRO
06:54:35PM BONO WORK FOR THE ORGANIZATION OR HIS COMPANY DOES.
06:54:38PM AND SO -- I AM GLAD THAT YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT HERE.
06:54:42PM BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WOULD WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT IT.
06:54:45PM AND WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF WHAT MAY COME
06:54:48PM BEFORE US.
06:54:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE OTHER THING JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW AND
06:54:52PM EVERYBODY AT THE TIMES KNOW THIS, IF WE HAVE A CLIENT AND
06:54:56PM WORKING ON THE CRISIS ISSUE, THE FIRST THING YOU SAY TO THEM
06:54:59PM IS BE HONEST, THOROUGH, AND GET ALL INFORMATION OUT QUICKLY.
06:55:03PM AND SO IF YOU SEE ANY ORGANIZATION THAT YOU THINK IS NOT
06:55:07PM DOING THAT, THAT OBVIOUSLY MEANS MY FIRM IS NOT WORKING WITH
06:55:11PM THEM OR WE ARE NOT WORK ON THIS TOPIC.
06:55:13PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WHEN OVER 18, YOU DON'T HAVE THAT
06:55:18PM PROBLEM.
06:55:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY.
06:55:20PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MY APOLOGY, BUT WE DID NOT DIRECT OUR
06:55:23PM ATTENTION TO THE RESOLUTION TO NUMBER 93, WHICH WOULD BE
06:55:26PM REQUIRED UNDER YOUR RULES TO BE READ.
06:55:27PM THE TITLE IS IN THE AGENDA.
06:55:29PM AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE IT AS AMENDED BY CITY COUNCIL'S MOTION
06:55:32PM AS PREVIOUS TO THAT.
06:55:33PM BUT THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE
06:55:39PM ANYTHING WITHIN YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURES.
06:55:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WOULD LIKE TO READ THE RESOLUTION FOR
06:55:43PM ITEM 39.
06:55:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ADOPTING THE RULES AND PROCEDURES AS
06:55:47PM AMENDED AND RESTATE ITS ENTIRETY.
06:55:51PM AND THE CITY OF TAMPA PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE WITH THE
06:55:54PM NOTES DISCUSSED DURING OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION.
06:55:57PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: OUR RULES ARE EFFECTIVE, THE NEW ONES WE
06:56:00PM CREATED.
06:56:00PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
06:56:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN WITH THE MOTION.
06:56:06PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:56:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION AND A SECOND.
06:56:10PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
06:56:12PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
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