TAMPA CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL CALL MEETING
MONDAY, AUGUST 5, 2024, 1:00 P.M.
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01:00:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
01:00:22PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
01:00:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
01:00:25PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
01:00:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO START US OFF.
01:00:30PM THAT IS WHAT THE AGENDA SAYS.
01:00:32PM HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO IT, SIR?
01:00:35PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YOU HAVE YOUR PRESENTATION, AND AFTER THAT,
01:00:37PM YOU CAN OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AND/OR COMMENTS AND AFTER
01:00:42PM THAT YOU CAN TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT OR TABLE PUBLIC COMMENT
01:00:46PM AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS, AND THE RULE STATES YOU CANNOT MAKE
01:00:48PM ANY MOTIONS UNTIL YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TABLE PUBLIC
01:00:51PM COMMENT.
01:00:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: KICK IF OFF WITH ITEM NUMBER 1.
01:00:55PM MR. ROGERO IS HERE.
01:00:57PM MR. PERRY IS HERE WITH A PRESENTATION.
01:00:59PM WE ASK THAT THEY DO THEIR ENTIRE PRESENTATION.
01:01:01PM IT IS A TEN-MINUTE PRESENTATION WITHOUT ANY INTERRUPTION AND
01:01:05PM WE WILL OPEN IT UP TO COUNCILMEMBERS HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY
01:01:08PM TO SPEAK AND THEN PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:01:09PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, GOOD MORNING,
01:01:15PM COUNCIL.
01:01:15PM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
01:01:19PM THANK YOU FOR BEING TO OUR INAUGURAL WORKSHOP DEVOTED SOLELY
01:01:24PM TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
01:01:26PM I FORGET WHO SUGGESTED IT.
01:01:30PM COUNCIL AS A BODY BUT I THINK IT WILL BE OF A GREAT DEAL OF
01:01:35PM USE AS WE CONTINUE ALONG WITH OUR FISCAL '25 BUDGET.
01:01:39PM I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD -- PARDON ME -- NOT ONLY
01:01:43PM WITH YOU BUT WITH YOUR BUDGET ANALYSTS SINCE THE MAYOR
01:01:47PM PRESENTED THE BUDGET A LITTLE OVER -- NEARLY THREE WEEKS
01:01:50PM AGO.
01:01:51PM YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IT HOT OFF THE PRESSES AND WE PROVIDED
01:01:54PM YOU JUST THIS MORNING SOME SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION.
01:01:56PM I, AGAIN, APOLOGIES FOR THE TARDINESS OF THAT.
01:02:00PM IT WAS MUCH MORE OF A PROJECT THAN WE ANTICIPATED.
01:02:04PM I DO WANT TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK WHO, I BELIEVE,
01:02:08PM SUGGESTED THIS.
01:02:09PM AND I DO THINK IT WILL BE VERY USEFUL.
01:02:14PM SO USEFUL THAT WE WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE USING DOWN THE
01:02:17PM LINE.
01:02:17PM WHAT IT DOES IS CONSOLIDATE A NUMBER OF DATA POINTS FOR THE
01:02:21PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT ALREADY EXISTS BUT DON'T
01:02:24PM EXIST; HOWEVER, I WILL FRAME IT SO CONVENIENTLY AS IT DOES
01:02:28PM NOW.
01:02:29PM I, AGAIN, APOLOGIZE.
01:02:30PM IT WAS LATER THAN ANTICIPATED.
01:02:32PM WE JUST REALLY HAD TO BE SURE OF THEOCRACY.
01:02:35PM PROBABLY MORE THAN YOU WANT TO KNOW, BUT A COMBINATION OF
01:02:39PM AUTOMATION AND MANUAL LABOR.
01:02:41PM SO NOW THAT WE HAVE THE TEMPLATES, I THINK WE ARE GOOD TO
01:02:45PM GO.
01:02:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHATEVER TIME YOU SPENT ON THAT WAS WELL
01:02:49PM WORTH IT.
01:02:49PM I THOUGHT THE CHARTS WERE WELL WORTH IT AND EASY TO
01:02:52PM UNDERSTAND, ESPECIALLY FOR THE PUBLIC.
01:02:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
01:02:55PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
01:02:56PM A GOOD SANITY CHECK FOR US AS WE IT THROUGH THIS CONTINUOUS
01:03:00PM IMPROVEMENT ROAD.
01:03:00PM WE THINK IT WILL BE VERY USEFUL.
01:03:02PM OF COURSE YOU SEE THE MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE TEAM, PARDON ME IS
01:03:08PM HERE, I'M HERE.
01:03:09PM MR. PERRY IS HERE.
01:03:10PM WE HAVE THE BRIEF PRESENTATION AS WE MENTIONED.
01:03:13PM MOST OF IT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESH FOR COUNCIL
01:03:16PM BASED ON THE PRESENTATION FROM A FEW WEEKS AGO.
01:03:18PM AND THEN SOME OF IT ANSWERS A FEW QUESTIONS THAT HAVE
01:03:22PM SURFACED SINCE THAT PRESENTATION.
01:03:24PM SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO GOING THROUGH THAT.
01:03:26PM AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, IF I CAN HAVE THE PRESENTATION.
01:03:31PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
01:03:36PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
01:03:37PM THANK YOU, IN THE BACK.
01:03:39PM AGAIN, COUNCIL, A QUICK REFRESH ON A COUPLE OF COMPONENTS.
01:03:46PM YOU SEE THE ENTIRETY OF THE FIVE-YEAR PROGRAM ON THE FAR
01:03:49PM RIGHT.
01:03:50PM JUST UNDER $1.7 MILLION.
01:03:52PM AND THE CURRENT YEAR APPROPRIATION OF JUST OVER $400,000.
01:03:56PM AGAIN, TO REFRESH, PRIMARILY THE PUBLIC.
01:04:01PM THE INITIAL YEAR IS WHAT IS LEGALLY BUDGETED EVERY SINGLE
01:04:05PM YEAR.
01:04:05PM BY LAW, YOU CAN ONLY APPROPRIATE OR BUDGET ONE YEAR.
01:04:08PM THE REMAINDER OF THE FOUR YEARS IS A PLAN.
01:04:11PM AND I WILL HARP ON THAT FOR JUST A MOMENT BECAUSE, IN
01:04:17PM ESSENCE, THE BUDGET IS PLAN, A POINT IN TIME BASED ON THE
01:04:21PM BEST INFORMATION WE HAVE AND THE PRIORITIES AT THE TIME.
01:04:23PM WE CHANGED THE BUDGET THOUGHT THE YEAR AT CITY COUNCIL
01:04:26PM MEETINGS AND, OF COURSE, THOSE FOUR OUTYEARS ARE LIKELY TO
01:04:30PM CHANGE IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM AS TIME GOES ON A REFRESH
01:04:39PM AGAIN ON THE MAJOR PROJECTS -- PARDON ME.
01:04:43PM YOU WILL SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT.
01:04:44PM AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT PROJECTS ON
01:04:47PM THE PRESENTATION WE GAVE PRIOR TO -- IN THOSE FOUR
01:04:49PM PARTICULAR AREAS.
01:04:50PM THE PIPES PROJECTS, AGAIN, THE USUAL SUSPECTS AS I WILL CALL
01:04:55PM THEM.
01:04:55PM WE CONTINUE TO WORK ON A GREAT DEAL OF INFRASTRUCTURE,
01:04:58PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE WATER AND WASTEWATER PROGRAM
01:05:01PM AND WE WILL SPEAK TO MORE DETAIL ON THAT IN A MOMENT.
01:05:04PM YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION.
01:05:06PM MAJOR PROJECTS FISCAL YEAR 2025 IN THE CIP.
01:05:11PM BOTTOM THERE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S FORENSICS ANNEX
01:05:15PM BUILDING.
01:05:15PM A NUMBER OF MOBILITY PROJECTS.
01:05:19PM STREET RESURFACING, SIDEWALKS, VISION ZERO, ETC.
01:05:26PM TECHNOLOGY AND INNOVATION ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS.
01:05:29PM VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT.
01:05:30PM THE COMPUTER-AIDED DISPATCH OR CAD PLATFORM FOR THE FIRE
01:05:36PM RESCUE DEPARTMENT.
01:05:37PM AND THE SOLID WASTE AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAM MANAGEMENT
01:05:41PM PROGRAMS.
01:05:41PM TWO VERY LARGE PROJECTS.
01:05:43PM THE WASTE ENERGY REFURBISHMENT THAT WE ARE UNDERTAKING RIGHT
01:05:47PM NOW.
01:05:47PM FLEET MAINTENANCE BUILDING.
01:05:48PM PARDON ME.
01:05:50PM AND THE RELOCATION OF, THE FIRST BULLET FROM SPRUCE STREET.
01:05:55PM THE CURRENT SPRUCE STREET TO THE SOLID WASTE COMPLEX OUT ON
01:06:00PM 31st STREET.
01:06:01PM GET IT A LITTLE BIT.
01:06:07PM AGAIN A DEBT FINANCING NOT AS DETAILED AS WE GOT IN THE
01:06:10PM NEGOTIATE PRESENTATION AND WE CAN GET MORE DETAILED IF
01:06:14PM COUNCIL WOULD LIKE.
01:06:14PM A SNAPSHOT OF THE NONAD VALOREM DEBT PROGRAM, NOT ONLY FOR
01:06:21PM FISCAL YEAR '25 BUT THE FOUR OUTYEARS.
01:06:23PM AND ONCE AGAIN, WE HIGHLIGHT THIS AND GET INTO A BIT MORE
01:06:27PM DETAIL BECAUSE IT IS A FINANCING DECISION.
01:06:30PM A VERY BIG DECISION.
01:06:32PM AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PROJECTS THAT ARE
01:06:35PM COMING BASED ON THAT FINANCING.
01:06:37PM YOU SEE THEM ON THE LEFT, OF COURSE, AND THE ANTICIPATED
01:06:41PM TIMING ON THE RIGHT.
01:06:42PM THIS IS A DEBT ISSUANCE TIMING.
01:06:47PM IT IS PRIMARILY DRIVEN BY THE ANTICIPATED PROJECTS SCHEDULE.
01:06:51PM IF THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO ACCELERATE THE PROJECT
01:06:56PM SCHEDULE AND OF COURSE WE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT IN
01:06:59PM TERMS OF WHAT WE OFFER FOR FINANCING.
01:07:01PM I WILL REMIND COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC THE YELLOW SQUARE
01:07:06PM AROUND THE FIRE STATION PROJECTS ARE, AGAIN, POTENTIAL
01:07:09PM RELIEF OPPORTUNITIES.
01:07:11PM I WILL FRAME THEM LIKE THAT.
01:07:13PM IF THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX RENEWAL IS SUCCESSFUL IN
01:07:20PM NOVEMBER.
01:07:20PM AND ANY NUMBER OF PROJECTS COULD BE, QUOTE, RELIEF PROJECT
01:07:25PM BUT THE FIRE FACILITIES AND THE FIRE STATIONS AND FIRE
01:07:28PM PROJECTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE.
01:07:33PM AS AN EXAMPLE, A VERY LARGE RELIEF COMPONENT THAT COULD COME
01:07:36PM INTO PLAY WITH THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX.
01:07:39PM AND PAGE TWO OF THE ANTICIPATED NONAD VALOREM DEBT PROGRAM.
01:07:48PM AGAIN WE HIGHLIGHT THE PARKS AND RECREATION RITA HOUSE
01:07:51PM RENOVATIONS K-BAR PROJECTS THAT COULD BE PAID -- PAID WITH
01:07:57PM COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX OPPOSED TO DEBT SERVICE.
01:08:01PM YOU SEE ON THE UPPER LEFT, THE ANNEX FORENSIC BUILDING FOR
01:08:05PM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT.
01:08:06PM AND DOWN AT THE BOTTOM, THE BLACK OUTLINE IS FOR THE GRANT
01:08:11PM MATCHES.
01:08:11PM WE HAVE GOT MORE INFORMATION COMING FOR THAT.
01:08:13PM THE GRANT MATCHES FOR -- FOR GRANTS FUNDING WORK THAT WE ARE
01:08:20PM GOING TO GET AND WE NEED A MATCH FOR AND DON'T HAVE THAT
01:08:22PM FUNDING RIGHT OFF HAND FROM PAY GO.
01:08:25PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL HIGHLIGHT ON THIS PAGE AS WE
01:08:28PM CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT NONAD VALOREM DEBT -- PARDON ME.
01:08:34PM AS THE NAME IMPLIES.
01:08:36PM NONAD VALOREM.
01:08:38PM IN MY OPINION IT IS A FANCY WORD FOR NONPROPERTY TAX.
01:08:43PM THESE ARE NOT PLEDGED FROM A PROPERTY TAX.
01:08:46PM THEY ARE FROM THE GENERAL FUND, BUT NOT OBLIGATING THE
01:08:50PM PROPERTY TAX TO PAY FOR IT.
01:08:52PM AND THIS MAY BE MORE THAN YOU WANT TO KNOW, BUT TO DO THAT,
01:08:55PM YOU HAVE TO ISSUE A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND THAT HAS TO GO
01:08:59PM TO REFERENDUM BECAUSE THE POSSIBILITY IS, YOUR CREDITORS MAY
01:09:07PM DEMAND THAT YOU RAISE PROPERTY TAXES TO PAY IT.
01:09:10PM NEVER DONE THAT IN MY KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
01:09:13PM AND WILL NOT RECOMMEND THAT NOW.
01:09:15PM AS WE SEE THAT NONAD VALOREM DEBT, THERE IS A REASON WE TEAM
01:09:21PM IT LIKE THAT.
01:09:22PM WE HAVE BEEN ASKED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AFTER PRESENTATION
01:09:25PM OF THE -- I THINK THIS MAY HAVE BEEN COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK --
01:09:30PM AFTER THE PRESENTATION OF THE BUDGET, WE --
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01:12:16PM >> ANTICIPATED THE ISSUE AND FUTURE DEBT INFLUENCE ABOUT TO
01:12:20PM COME IN.
01:12:21PM -- 29 AND THE VARIOUS CAPACITIES.
01:12:35PM A PROCEED AND DEEP VIEW OF THE DEBT ISSUANCE PLAN OF THE
01:12:49PM PLAN IN THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAM.
01:12:51PM AND AGAIN WE CAN COME BACK IN MORE DETAIL IF YOU WOULD LIKE.
01:12:54PM THE DEBT SERVICE BY BOND YEAR.
01:12:58PM THIS WAS A CHART THAT WE HAD SHOWED WITH COUNCIL BEFORE.
01:13:04PM YOU WILL RECALL THAT IT PRETTY MUCH BREAKS DOWN OUR DEBT
01:13:07PM INTO GOVERNMENTAL AND ENTERPRISE.
01:13:09PM AFTER FURTHER REVIEW AND AFTER TALKING WITH MEMBERS OF
01:13:13PM COUNCIL, WE DECIDED, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS IS NOT DETAILED
01:13:17PM ENOUGH.
01:13:17PM PAUSE WE DON'T GET A CREDIT RATING FOR GOVERNMENTAL.
01:13:20PM WE DON'T GET A CREDIT RATING FOR ENTERPRISE.
01:13:23PM WE GET A CREDIT RATING FOR INDIVIDUAL COMPONENTS WITHIN
01:13:28PM THOSE CATEGORIES.
01:13:29PM SO WE WILL ASK -- AND WE HAVE DONE IT HERE TO BREAK IT OUT
01:13:33PM BY INDIVIDUAL CREDIT.
01:13:36PM AND WE HAVE SEEN THAT HERE.
01:13:38PM NONAD VALOREM CREDIT IN DARK BLUE.
01:13:42PM EVEN LIGHTER BLUE IS THE RETIRING CET.
01:13:46PM OF COURSE IT SUNSETS IN JUST A FEW YEARS AND WE WILL SEE IT
01:13:52PM END IN FISCAL YEAR 2026, AND THEN THE WATER AND WASTEWATER
01:13:56PM CREDIT.
01:13:56PM SO YOU SEE HOW THOSE BREAK DOWN.
01:13:58PM I WILL BACK UP.
01:13:59PM YOU CAN SEE VISUALLY IT PRETTY MUCH TIES TOGETHER, BUT IT
01:14:03PM GETS INTO MORE DETAIL FOR THE DIFFERENT CREDITS THAT WE ARE
01:14:08PM TALKING ABOUT.
01:14:09PM AND OF WHICH WE HAVE RECEIVED AND WILL RECEIVE ADDITIONAL
01:14:12PM CREDIT RATINGS.
01:14:13PM AND DRILLING DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
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01:15:03PM >> ALL RIGHT, AND, OF COURSE, YOU SEE AS GO, THE INTEREST
01:15:07PM INCREASES, THE PRINCIPAL INCREASES.
01:15:11PM THE AMOUNT THAT YOU ARE PAYING ANYWAY WHICH IS PRETTY
01:15:14PM STANDARD.
01:15:14PM THE CIT, AGAIN, WILL BE NONEXISTENT VERY SHORTLY.
01:15:21PM AT LEAST THE EXISTING CIT.
01:15:23PM AND YOU SEE AS WE SUNSET IT IS ON PRINCIPAL.
01:15:29PM THEN AGAIN OUR EXISTING WATER AND WASTEWATER DEBT ISSUANCE.
01:15:34PM PRETTY DARN SMOOTH.
01:15:36PM YOU SEE TOWARD THE --
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01:18:32PM >> AND THE CIP WORKSHOP TODAY.
01:18:35PM THE OPERATING WORKSHOP ON THE 19th AND TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS
01:18:39PM IN SEPTEMBER.
01:18:39PM AND A REMINDER TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET CAN
01:18:45PM BE FOUND AT THIS WEB SITE.
01:18:47PM HAVING SAID THAT, THANK YOU, AGAIN.
01:18:52PM APPRECIATE -- I ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS.
01:18:56PM AND I APPRECIATE YOU DIGGING INTO THE DETAILS SINCE THE
01:18:59PM MAYOR PRESENTED HER BUDGET A FEW WEEKS AGO AND WE ARE ALL
01:19:02PM HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE AND TO GO OVER
01:19:06PM ANYTHING YOU TALKED ABOUT.
01:19:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, MR. ROGERO, I HAVE A QUESTION
01:19:11PM REGARDING THE HOWARD AVENUE TPD ANNEX.
01:19:14PM I SAW $45 MILLION.
01:19:16PM TWO MONTHS AGO, I THOUGHT I HEARD $36 MILLION OR $38
01:19:20PM MILLION.
01:19:20PM WHAT -- LET'S SAY $40 MILLION.
01:19:22PM WHAT -- WHAT IS THE ESCALATION NOW?
01:19:28PM BECAUSE -- THE REASON I ASK, THE MARKET -- I DON'T WANT TO
01:19:33PM SAY CRASHED -- BUT HERE HAD A DIFFICULT DAY.
01:19:36PM JAPAN HAD A DIFFICULT DAY.
01:19:38PM THE HOUSING MARKET IS CHANGING.
01:19:39PM RETAIL LUXURY GOODS ARE CHANGING.
01:19:42PM EVERYTHING ELSE SEEMS TO -- I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE COMI
01:19:45PM DOWN, BUT THERE IS A CHANGE IN WHAT THINGS USED TO COST AND
01:19:50PM ARE COSTING NOW.
01:19:51PM HOW DID THIS GET TO AN EVEN HIGHER NUMBER?
01:19:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SOME OF THIS IS -- SOME OF THIS IS BECAUSE
01:19:56PM IT IS AN ESTIMATION AND WE WANT TO PROVIDE SOME WIGGLE ROOM
01:20:00PM BECAUSE -- HOW SHOULD I SAY IT -- THE ECONOMY IS PRETTY
01:20:05PM VOLATILE RIGHT NOW.
01:20:06PM LET ME START OFF BY SAYING WE WILL ONLY ISSUE DEBT FOR THE
01:20:09PM AMOUNT OF FUNDING THAT WE NEED.
01:20:10PM I, TOO, HEARD THE $40 MILLION AND HEARD THE HIGH $30
01:20:17PM MILLION, ETC.
01:20:18PM REASONABLE BUT CONSERVATIVE STEMS.
01:20:20PM THE LONG AND THE SHORT OF IT.
01:20:22PM YOU SPOKE TO THE STOCK MARKET.
01:20:24PM IT IS VERY VOLUME TEAL.
01:20:25PM I THINK A WEEK OR TWO AGO, WHAT THEY CALL A MAGNIFICENT
01:20:29PM SEVEN.
01:20:29PM THE SEVEN BIG TECH COMPANIES, INVIDIA, AMAZON, IN THE SAME
01:20:41PM WEEK HAD THE WORST DROP EVER AND BEST DAY IN TEN YEARS.
01:20:44PM THAT IS A VERY VOLATILE MARKET.
01:20:46PM THE LATEST WE ARE HEARING -- AND I APPRECIATE YOU PAYING
01:20:50PM ATTENTION TO IT -- IS WITH THE SELLOFF IN THE STOCK MARKET
01:20:53PM LAST WEEK AND SO FAR -- ALTHOUGH I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO
01:20:57PM MONITOR IT THIS MORNING -- MORE AND MORE PRESSURE IS BEING
01:21:00PM APPLIED TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE TO LOWER INTEREST RATES AT
01:21:04PM THEIR SEPTEMBER MEETING.
01:21:05PM AGAIN, THAT WOULD LIKELY CHEAPER MONDAY.
01:21:12PM AND THERE ARE YEARS AND YEARS OF INEXPENSIVE FUNDING AND
01:21:18PM MORE EXPENSIVE FROM A RELATIVE PERSPECTIVE AND NOW A LIGHT
01:21:22PM IS AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL.
01:21:23PM SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL FOR A REDUCTION IN
01:21:26PM RATES.
01:21:27PM A COUPLE -- MORE A COUPLE BUT A NUMBER OF X FACTORS
01:21:32PM ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
01:21:33PM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SPOOKED MARKETS LAST WEEK WAS THE
01:21:36PM JOBS REPORT.
01:21:36PM IS EMPLOYMENT COOLING MORE THAN WE WANT.
01:21:39PM AND IF EMPLOYMENT COOLS TOO MUCH, THEN YOU RUN THE RISK OF
01:21:43PM THE R WORD.
01:21:44PM THE "RECESSION."
01:21:47PM AND WE ARE HEARING THAT AGAIN EVEN THOUGH THE MARKET HAS
01:21:49PM BEEN SELLER AND THE EMPLOYMENT PICTURE HAS BEEN SURPRISINGLY
01:21:53PM POSITIVE.
01:21:53PM THAT TOOK A TURN FRIDAY.
01:21:55PM IT IS A LONG-WINDED WAY OF SAYING AN ESTIMATE.
01:21:58PM AND REMAINS AN ESTIMATE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE
01:22:02PM ACCOUNTING FOR SOME OF THE VOLATILITY OUT THERE.
01:22:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOW LAST QUESTION AND I WILL MOVE IT
01:22:08PM AROUND AND ROTATE IT.
01:22:09PM WHAT IF THE CIT DOESN'T PASS IN NOVEMBER?
01:22:13PM I AM HOPEFUL THAT IT WILL, BUT WHAT HAPPENS THEN?
01:22:16PM WE HAVE THESE ITEMS IN THIS BUDGET FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL
01:22:19PM YEAR.
01:22:19PM THEY ARE BIG NUMBERS.
01:22:20PM AND I KNOW WE CAN STILL BOND AND BOOR ROW, BUT WE ALSO HAVE
01:22:25PM A LOT OF RESPONSIBILITIES WITH THE EXISTING CIT AND WHAT IT
01:22:28PM IS GOING TO.
01:22:28PM YOU SHOWED IN THE CHART.
01:22:30PM AFTER 2026, A QUESTION MARK UNTIL NOVEMBER 5, WHATEVER WHEN
01:22:41PM ELECTION DAY IN THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO THAT IT DOESN'T GET
01:22:47PM RENEWED.
01:22:48PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: A DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCE.
01:22:50PM WE WILL SEE IT COMING.
01:22:51PM WE WILL HAVE TWO YEARS.
01:22:52PM ANOTHER REASON WE ARE CRAFTING THE OUTYEARS DISREGARDING THE
01:22:56PM COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX.
01:22:56PM IT IS ALL GENERAL FUND.
01:22:58PM I THINK IT WILL BE TOO OPTIMISTIC TO INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY
01:23:02PM INVESTMENT TAX IN, BUT WE ARE SITTING ON THE FENCE RIGHT NOW
01:23:10PM BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX, I DON'T NEED TO TELL
01:23:14PM ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM THAT IT IS A MAJOR PORTION OF OUR
01:23:17PM REVENUES AND QUITE A VACUUM IF IT GOES AWAY.
01:23:20PM ON THE OTHER HAND, IT WILL BE A BOON TO EVERYTHING WE WOULD
01:23:24PM LIKE TO DO, EVERYTHING THE COUNTY WOULD LIKE TO DO,
01:23:26PM EVERYTHING THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WOULD LIKE TO DO IF IT
01:23:30PM PASSES.
01:23:31PM WE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE BOTH SIDES OF THE MIRROR, IF WE
01:23:34PM WILL.
01:23:34PM ALL BASED ON THE GENERAL FUND, BUT, AGAIN, THE YELLOW
01:23:39PM OUTLINE FOR THE FIRE PROJECTS ARE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW MUCH
01:23:41PM RELIEF IT COULD PROVIDE.
01:23:43PM WE HAVE -- GOING OFF MEMORY, LIKE $190 MILLION ANTICIPATED
01:23:49PM FOR TRANSPORTATION.
01:23:50PM $190 MILLION ANTICIPATED, YOU KNOW, FOR -- I FORGET -- A LOT
01:23:54PM OF MONEY.
01:23:55PM OVER SIX -- ONCE YOU MOVE PAST OUR OBLIGATIONS FOR THE
01:23:59PM STADIUM AND THE ARENA, OVER $600 MILLION OF FUNDING FOR
01:24:03PM PROJECTS.
01:24:05PM AGAIN, I WOULD LOVE TO PROVIDE A SIMPLE ANSWER, BUT IT WOULD
01:24:10PM BE SUCH A VACUUM IT LEFT ABOUT THE BEST THAT THE -- ABOUT
01:24:14PM THE BEST ADVANTAGE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PLAN FOR IT.
01:24:18PM BUT AS PART OF THAT PLANNING I WOULD ANTICIPATE WOULD BE
01:24:21PM REDUCTIONS IN SOME AREAS, HOPING FOR AN INCREASE IN REVENUE
01:24:25PM IN OTHER AREAS.
01:24:26PM BECAUSE, I THINK, IN THE FISCAL YEAR '24, AGAIN, I AM GOING
01:24:31PM OFF MEMORY, SOMETHING LIKE $36 MILLION FROM THE CIT.
01:24:36PM THAT WILL BE MISSED IF IT GOES AWAY IMMEDIATELY AND THAT
01:24:40PM WILL EXACTLY BE WHAT HAPPENED IF IT DOESN'T PASS.
01:24:43PM DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS?
01:24:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
01:24:46PM WHO WANTS TO KICK IT OFF.
01:24:48PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
01:24:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I PUT IT ON.
01:24:51PM IT IS ON BECAUSE I HAVE A HABIT OF PUTTING IT ON.
01:24:54PM LET ME SAY THIS.
01:24:55PM THANK YOU FOR YOUR SIMPLICITY IN PUTTING IT IN WORDS THAT
01:24:59PM EVERYBODY COULD UNDERSTAND.
01:25:00PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: APPRECIATE THAT.
01:25:02PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
01:25:04PM THE ANSWER TO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS IS IF THE CIT DOESN'T
01:25:08PM PASS, THESE PROJECTS WILL NOT GO FORWARD.
01:25:10PM THEY WILL BE SHELVED FOR A WHILE AND THE OTHER TAX YOU
01:25:14PM COLLECT FROM THE BED TAX THAT PRODUCES ABOUT $10 MILLION A
01:25:18PM YEAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
01:25:19PM THAT WILL GO DOWN BECAUSE SOMETHING HITS THE FAN, ALL NOT
01:25:25PM ALL THE BLADES FALL OFF THE FAN BUT RUNNING ON FOUR BLADES
01:25:29PM OR ONE BLADE.
01:25:30PM YOU HAVE TO -- JUST LIKE ANY HOUSEHOLD -- ANYBODY'S BUSINESS
01:25:34PM IS JUST LIKE THE HOUSE HOLD.
01:25:36PM IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY SOMETHING, YOU JUST CAN'T
01:25:39PM BUY IT.
01:25:40PM YOU HAVE TO HOLD BACK -- I REMEMBER SOME OF THOSE LEAN YEARS
01:25:43PM WHEN THERE WAS A CIT TAX.
01:25:47PM AND SHE DID A WONDERFUL JOB.
01:25:49PM MAYOR IORIO.
01:25:50PM WITH THE TO HOLD THE BUDGET AND HER ADMINISTRATION HAD TO DO
01:25:53PM WHAT THEY HAD TO DO AT THAT TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY
01:25:56PM CONTINUES TO FUNCTION AS A CITY AND AS A PROPER WATER AND
01:26:00PM SEWER, POLICE, FIRE, AND SO FORTH FIRST, BUT A LOT OF THE
01:26:04PM DEPARTMENTS WERE SHELVES BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MONEY.
01:26:08PM IT WASN'T HER FAULT.
01:26:09PM SHE HAD -- I SAY "WE" BECAUSE THE COUNCIL WAS INVOLVED, OVER
01:26:14PM 700 EMPLOYEES.
01:26:15PM THESE THINGS ARE COMMON.
01:26:16PM THEY ARE NOT LOOKED FORWARD TO HAPPENING, BUT IT HAPPENS IN
01:26:19PM ANY BUSINESS.
01:26:20PM I DON'T CARE IF YOU ARE IN THE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS OR IN
01:26:23PM THE SPORTS BUSINESS OR ANY BUSINESS.
01:26:25PM YOU HAVE YOUR UPS AND DOWNS.
01:26:28PM SO YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR WHEN THESE THINGS COME, THAT
01:26:31PM YOU ARE PREPARED TO DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
01:26:32PM AND I THINK THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION AND COUNCIL IS PREPARED
01:26:39PM TO DO IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPEN.
01:26:41PM THAT IS MY FEELING ON IT.
01:26:43PM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU.
01:26:44PM YOUR STAFF AND ADMINISTRATION AND WORKING ON YOUR AND YOUR
01:26:48PM PRESENTATION TO THE COUNCIL IS VERY USEFUL AND
01:26:50PM UNDERSTANDABLE.
01:26:51PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.
01:26:54PM MR. CHAIR, IF I CAN POSTSCRIPT THAT.
01:26:58PM WELL-DONE, SIR.
01:26:59PM YOU MADE GOOD POINTS.
01:27:00PM IF I DIRECT TO YOU THE PRESENTATION, BOTTOM LINE, $150
01:27:05PM MILLION FOR 2025.
01:27:07PM $90 MILLION FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND LITTLE OVER $100
01:27:12PM MILLION IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS AND FURTHER TO WHAT COUNCILMAN
01:27:15PM MIRANDA SAID.
01:27:17PM I HAD WE HAVE A COUPLE OF ADVANTAGES.
01:27:19PM ONE, WE WILL SEE IT COMING.
01:27:21PM WE WILL HAVE TWO YEARS.
01:27:22PM THE OTHER IS WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ISSUING DEBT UNTIL WE KNOW
01:27:26PM WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX.
01:27:28PM IF IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH.
01:27:29PM I WON'T SPEAK TO THE COUNCIL AND THE MAYOR, BUT CAST A
01:27:33PM LITTLE BIT IN DOUBT IF WE WILL PROCEED WITH THE ENTIRELY OF
01:27:36PM THE $300-PLUS MILLION DOLLARS.
01:27:39PM I THINK IT DOES.
01:27:40PM AND ONCE AGAIN, I THINK WE WILL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE
01:27:43PM GET THERE.
01:27:44PM I WILL SAY, HOWEVER, IN FISCAL YEAR '25, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE
01:27:48PM NOT ISSUED THE DEBT, WE HAVE OBLIGATED OURSELVES TO A FEW OF
01:27:52PM THESE PROJECTS.
01:27:53PM MIDWAY, THE WEST RIVERWALK, FOR INSTANCE.
01:27:56PM ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE AT THE BOTTOM, THE EAST TAMPA
01:28:00PM RECREATION CENTER AT FAIR OAKS.
01:28:01PM WE ARE -- WE ARE PROCEEDING SPENDING MONEY ON THE PREMISE
01:28:07PM THAT WE ARE GOING TO ISSUE DEBT FOR SOME OF THESE PROJECTS,
01:28:10PM SOME OF THESE PRETTY GOOD-SIZED PROJECTS.
01:28:13PM SO, AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE THE ADVANTAGE OF A COUPLE OF YEARS
01:28:16PM AND WE WILL KNOW BY THE TIME WE ISSUE WHAT WE ANTICIPATE
01:28:20PM ISSUING.
01:28:20PM THANK YOU.
01:28:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
01:28:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: SORRY, SAY AGAIN?
01:28:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES.
01:28:31PM I HEARD A LITTLE "HAPPY."
01:28:33PM A GOOD SONG.
01:28:34PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD SONG.
01:28:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK AND CARLSON.
01:28:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC
01:28:43PM COMMENT.
01:28:43PM MAYBE WE SHOULD LISTEN TO HER AND THEN GO INTO --
01:28:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WANT TO GO OR GO INTO PUBLIC
01:28:49PM COMMENT.
01:28:49PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH, BUT I WANT TO SAY, DENNIS, SINCE YOU
01:28:52PM AND YOUR TEAM SPENT SO MUCH TIME ON THIS SPREADSHEET, I
01:28:55PM THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO GO THROUGH THE SPREADSHEET.
01:28:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
01:29:00PM >>BILL CARLSON: AND TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THAT.
01:29:02PM BECAUSE THAT IS MOSTLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN, I
01:29:05PM THINK.
01:29:05PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE HAVE IT READY ON THE BIG SCREEN IF
01:29:08PM COUNCIL --
01:29:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT DEBT AND
01:29:11PM EVERYTHING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
01:29:12PM AND I AM ESPECIALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEBT PERCENTAGES AND
01:29:16PM DEBT OVERALL, BUT I THINK WHAT -- THE PRIORITIES OF WHAT THE
01:29:20PM MONEY IS BEING SPENT ON IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
01:29:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
01:29:23PM WE WILL GO THROUGH THE DETAILED LIST AND THEN TAKE PUBLIC
01:29:27PM COMMENT SO THE PUBLIC HAS FULL CLARITY AND TRANSPARENCY.
01:29:31PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:29:33PM IN THE BACK THERE, IF YOU CAN PULL UP THE CIP SUPPLEMENTAL
01:29:39PM SUMMARY FIRST AND I WILL JUMP INTO --
01:29:43PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, I WANT ODD TO -- I BECAME AWARE THAT
01:29:46PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON -- SHE IS HAVING MAJOR CAR PROBLEMS
01:29:48PM THAT ARE PRECLUDING HER FROM BEING HERE.
01:29:51PM JUST FOR THE PUBLIC'S SAKE.
01:29:53PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, SIR.
01:29:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:29:56PM MR. ROGERO, THE SPREADSHEET FACILITIES IMPROVEMENT,
01:30:02PM FACILITIES MANAGEMENT.
01:30:03PM WHICHEVER ONE.
01:30:04PM THAT IS THE ORDER I HAVE IT.
01:30:06PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WE HAVE HARD COPIES AVAILABLE ALSO IF SOME
01:30:12PM OF YOU WOULD PREFER THAT OR DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
01:30:16PM PRINT IT.
01:30:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE ALL HAVE IT.
01:30:19PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: OKAY.
01:30:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I PRINTED IT ALL OUT.
01:30:22PM ANYBODY NEED ONE?
01:30:26PM ALL RIGHT.
01:30:26PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
01:30:28PM AND THANK YOU CCTV FOR PULLING IT UP.
01:30:32PM THIS IS THE SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT.
01:30:34PM WE PROVIDED YOU A SUMMARY AND A DETAIL.
01:30:37PM I WILL START WITH THE SUMMARY AND WE CAN WORK OURSELVES INTO
01:30:39PM THE DETAIL.
01:30:40PM WHAT WAS ASKED -- AND YOU SEE IT HERE.
01:30:43PM WE HAVE GOT THESE PROJECTS, RIGHT.
01:30:45PM AND WE ARE CONSIDERING ADOPTING A FIVE-YEAR CAPITAL
01:30:50PM IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, BUT WE ALREADY ADOPTED A FIVE-YEAR
01:30:53PM CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND ADVANCE.
01:30:56PM AS THESE PROJECTS CONTINUE THOUGH, MANY OF THEM -- AND YOU
01:31:00PM WILL SEE THAT HERE.
01:31:01PM THEY CARRY A BALANCE WITH THEM FROM THE PREVIOUS
01:31:04PM APPROPRIATION.
01:31:05PM EVEN THOUGH YOU WILL SEE A FIVE-YEAR COMPONENT IN THE CIP,
01:31:10PM AND WE WILL ALSO PROVIDE A BALANCE ON THE CIP PAGE, IT
01:31:14PM DOESN'T BRING IT ALL UNDER ONE -- UNDER ONE ROOF, IF YOU
01:31:18PM WILL, SO YOU CAN SEE THE TRANSITION FROM WHAT COUNCIL HAS
01:31:21PM APPROVED, WHICH IS THE CIP THROUGH FISCAL YEAR '28.
01:31:27PM AND WHAT COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING NOW, WHICH IS THE CIP TO
01:31:30PM FISCAL YEAR '29.
01:31:32PM AS YOU SEE THAT CHANGE.
01:31:34PM AND IT IS MOSTLY AN INCREASE OBVIOUSLY.
01:31:37PM AND IF YOU ADD IT TO THE BALANCE BEING CARRIED FORWARD, IT
01:31:42PM GIVES YOU, WE THINK, AGAIN, WE LIKE THE PRODUCT.
01:31:44PM IT GIVES A BETTER BIG PICTURE OF WHAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR
01:31:49PM THE PROJECT OVER THE FIVE YEARS.
01:31:51PM AND I WILL START ON THE LEFT.
01:31:53PM THIS IS A SUMMARY, AGAIN, PROJECT BY PROJECT.
01:31:56PM IS IT NEW OR NOT?
01:31:59PM WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT, WHEN APPLICABLE.
01:32:01PM THE DEPARTMENT, OF COURSE.
01:32:02PM AND THE PROJECT NUMBER AND NAME.
01:32:04PM ONE OF THE REASONS THE PROJECT NUMBER IS SO USEFUL THAT OVER
01:32:09PM TIME, NAMES DO CHANGE.
01:32:10PM THEY HAVE BEEN IN OUR SYSTEM.
01:32:11PM WE WANT TO KEEP THE NUMBER CONSISTENT SO WE ARE ALWAYS
01:32:14PM TRACKING THE SAME FUNDING FOR THE SAME PURPOSE.
01:32:16PM YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE.
01:32:17PM AS OF JULY 1, THE -- PARDON ME, THE FIRST NUMBERS, THE
01:32:22PM APPROXIMATE PROJECT BALANCE OR CARRYOVER.
01:32:26PM WHAT DOES THIS PROJECT HAVE AVAILABLE FROM PREVIOUS
01:32:28PM APPROPRIATIONS, INCLUDING FISCAL YEAR '24 AS OF JULY 1.
01:32:34PM AND SOME OF THEM HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT BALANCES FROM
01:32:37PM PREVIOUS APPROPRIATIONS.
01:32:38PM AND THEN WE IDENTIFY WHAT HAS COUNCIL APPROVED FOR THE
01:32:44PM REMAINING FOUR-YEAR PERIOD.
01:32:46PM AND HE WILL JUST TAKE IT WITH THAT FIRST ONE, IF YOU DON'T
01:32:49PM MIND.
01:32:49PM CITYWIDE FACILITY IMPROVEMENT CARRY AS BALANCE OF $340,000.
01:32:55PM RIGHT NOW, THE REMAINING FOUR YEARS APPROVED IS $1.5
01:32:59PM MILLION.
01:32:59PM WHAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED TO CITY COUNCIL IS A FIVE-YEAR
01:33:04PM PERIOD INCREASING IT BY $100,000 OR A TOTAL OF $1.6 MILLION.
01:33:09PM SO WE HAVE ASKED THAT THE PROJECT BE INCREASED $100,000 TO
01:33:16PM $1.6 MILLION.
01:33:17PM AND OVER ON THE FAR RIGHT, YOU SEE THAT 1.6 PLUS THE BALANCE
01:33:26PM BEING CARRIED OVER.
01:33:27PM THIS IS WHAT I MEAN BY THE FULLER PICTURE.
01:33:29PM THEORETICALLY IF COUNCIL APPROVES THE CIP, THE CIP FOR THAT
01:33:35PM PROJECT IS $1.6 MILLION.
01:33:36PM WHAT WE REALLY GOT TO WORK WITH IS THE FAR RIGHT JUST UNDER
01:33:40PM $2 MILLION.
01:33:41PM AGAIN, AS WE CONTINUE WORKING WITH IT, AND AS WE GOT IT TO
01:33:44PM THE LEVEL OF ACCURACY THAT WE LIKE, WELL, WE FIND IT VERY
01:33:48PM USEFUL OURS SELVES, TO BE QUITE CANDID AND WE CAN USE IT
01:33:52PM GOING FORWARD AND THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE FOR EACH PROJECT.
01:33:56PM CLIMATE CONTROL, HVAC, CITYWIDE DEPARTMENT RELOCATIONS.
01:34:03PM AGAIN, THE PRIMARY COLUMNS I WOULD SUBMIT TO COUNCIL AND THE
01:34:07PM PUBLIC IS THE CARRYOVER.
01:34:08PM REQUESTED INCREASE-DECREASE AND WHAT YOU ARE ENDING UP WITH
01:34:14PM IN ITS ENTIRETY FOR THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD.
01:34:17PM AND IF I COULD MOVE AHEAD.
01:34:22PM CCTV, IF YOU COULD BRING UP THE DETAILED PROJECTS.
01:34:27PM THE DETAILED SPREADSHEET, EXCUSE ME.
01:34:31PM AGAIN, I AM GIVING YOU AN OVERVIEW.
01:34:45PM WE CAN GO INTO ANY AMOUNT OF DETAIL THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE.
01:34:48PM THERE WE GO.
01:34:57PM THIS IS MERELY EVEN MORE THAN THE SUMMARY.
01:35:03PM AND WHAT YOU SEE HERE, AGAIN, STARTING FROM THE LEFT, IS IT
01:35:07PM NEW.
01:35:08PM THE DEPARTMENT NUMBER AND NAME -- LET'S GO TO THE FIRST PAGE
01:35:14PM THERE.
01:35:14PM CCTV, CAN I GET THE FIRST PAGE, PLEASE, OR -- I JUST WANT TO
01:35:34PM TAKE THE SAME PROJECT WE JUST DISCUSSED AND GO THROUGH IT.
01:35:38PM THERE IT IS.
01:35:49PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
01:35:50PM AND, AGAIN, THE -- YOU SEE THE NEW, THE DEPARTMENT, THE
01:35:55PM PROJECT NUMBER AND, AGAIN, THAT FIRST PROJECT, FACILITY
01:36:00PM CITYWIDE IMPROVEMENTS.
01:36:01PM $440,000 CARRIED OVER.
01:36:04PM THE APPROVED AMOUNT FOR THE REMAINING WAS $1.5 MILLION.
01:36:08PM THE REQUESTED AMOUNT WAS 1.6.
01:36:10PM WE HAVE BEEN ASKED AND YOU SEE IT HERE, WHAT IS THE YEAR BY
01:36:14PM YEAR CHANGE.
01:36:15PM AND YOU SEE FOR FISCAL YEAR '25, THE FUNDING -- THE
01:36:19PM REQUESTED FUNDING HAS GONE DOWN A LITTLE, BUT WE ARE MAKING
01:36:23PM UP FOR THAT IN FISCAL YEAR '29.
01:36:25PM LOWERING THE FUNDING BY $200,000 IN '25, BUT PICKING IT UP
01:36:30PM AND THEN SOME IN FISCAL YEAR '29.
01:36:33PM WHY IS THAT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD?
01:36:36PM PROBABLY THE PROJECT SCHEDULE AND WHAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE
01:36:39PM ABLE TO SPEND OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
01:36:40PM SO, AGAIN, IT REALLY GETS INTO GRANULAR DETAIL YEAR BY YEAR
01:36:46PM WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THESE PROJECTS WHILE PROVIDING, I
01:36:49PM THINK, A 15,000-FOOT VIEW OF HOW MUCH MORE IS BEING
01:36:54PM ALLOCATED AND THE TOTALITY OF WHAT WE HAVE GOT TO WORK WITH.
01:36:57PM SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS, YOU CAN -- AND I GUESS I AM JUST
01:37:03PM RESTATING, YOU CAN GO -- YOU CAN GET AS DETAILED AND AS --
01:37:07PM OR AS SUMMARIAL -- IF THAT IS A REAL WORD -- AS YOU LIKE
01:37:13PM WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
01:37:16PM OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME AND WHAT YOU ARE BRINGING FORWARD
01:37:18PM FROM THE PAST.
01:37:19PM AND WE HAVE IT FOR ALL DEPARTMENTS EXCEPT WATER AND
01:37:27PM WASTEWATER.
01:37:27PM WE ARE STILL WORKING ON THOSE.
01:37:29PM THEY ARE VERY COMPLEX -- AND, AGAIN, WE HAVE THE TEMPLATE
01:37:32PM DOWN.
01:37:33PM I THINK THOSE WILL BE MUCH SOONER.
01:37:35PM HAVING SAID THAT, THAT IS MY OVERVIEW.
01:37:38PM IT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE AS TO WHERE WE GO FROM HERE.
01:37:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
01:37:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF WE CAN DO PUBLIC COMMENT AND --
01:37:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION TO GO TO
01:37:56PM PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:37:56PM ALL RIGHT, WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
01:37:59PM IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE BUDGET -- SORRY,
01:38:03PM THE CIP, LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL.
01:38:04PM ANYBODY HERE TO TALK?
01:38:06PM WE HAVE ONE PERSON ON VIRTUAL.
01:38:09PM WHAT IS THAT PERSON'S NAME.
01:38:11PM STEPHANIE POYNOR, OF COURSE.
01:38:15PM STEPHANIE, ARE YOU ONLINE?
01:38:24PM IS SHE THERE?
01:38:26PM STEPHANIE, YOU ARE MUTED.
01:38:28PM UNMUTE YOURSELF.
01:38:29PM YOU DON'T HEAR THAT OFTEN, DO YOU.
01:38:34PM STILL MUTED?
01:38:41PM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
01:38:43PM GOING ONCE.
01:38:47PM >> OKAY, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
01:38:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
01:38:50PM >> OKAY, BEAUTIFUL.
01:38:50PM OKAY.
01:38:51PM I LOOKED AT THIS.
01:38:53PM I DIDN'T GET THIS DOCUMENT UNTIL MAYBE LAST HOUR OR SO.
01:38:58PM AND I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
01:39:00PM I HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL THESE NEW PROJECTS.
01:39:03PM WE ARE GOING TO SPENDS $450,000 TO UPGRADE THE T-MOB BREAK
01:39:10PM ROOM.
01:39:10PM LOOK AROUND YOURSELVES, COUNCIL.
01:39:12PM OUR COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOOK LIKE POOP.
01:39:16PM THE WALLS NEED TO BE PAINTED.
01:39:18PM THE SEATS ARE FALLING APART.
01:39:20PM THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION.
01:39:22PM WE MUST HAVE AN UPGRADED BREAK ROOM BUT THE CITIZENS SIT IN
01:39:28PM CRAPPY CHAIRS EVERY WEEK.
01:39:29PM THE SMART CITY PARKING GUIDANCE, OH, MY GOSH.
01:39:33PM $7 MILLION LAST YEAR.
01:39:35PM NOW WE ARE AT $12 MILLION AS IT IS PUSHED OUT BUT ALSO IN
01:39:40PM THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEARS, BECAUSE I ALREADY SAW IT.
01:39:43PM WHY?
01:39:43PM HUH?
01:39:45PM I AM CONFUSED.
01:39:45PM OF COURSE, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT BUDGETS.
01:39:48PM BUT I AM JUST READING THE BASIC INFORMATION.
01:39:50PM I WILL LIKE TO NOTE ON THE MOW PIT PART, IT SAYS NEW IS THE
01:39:59PM INTERBAY AREA IMPROVEMENTS.
01:40:01PM IF THAT IS NEW, IT IS NEWS TO ME.
01:40:03PM BECAUSE I DID A WALK THROUGH WITH THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT,
01:40:06PM LIKE, THREE YEARS AGO AND I BELIEVE JANELLE McGREGOR
01:40:11PM DOCUMENTED IT ON NEXT DOOR FOR EVERYBODY THAT WE WENT FLEW
01:40:15PM THAT PROJECT.
01:40:15PM I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY IT IS LISTED AS "NEW."
01:40:20PM THE SIDEWALK CONSTRUCTION CITYWIDE, HOW MUCH OF THAT AREA
01:40:23PM WILL COME OUT OF THE IN LIEU OF FUNDS.
01:40:26PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE FUNDING THAT AND REFUNDING THE
01:40:29PM STREET RESURFACING.
01:40:31PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN WHAT IS
01:40:33PM BEING TAKEN CARE OF BY THE WATER DEPARTMENT AND THE
01:40:36PM WASTEWATER DEPARTMENT WHEN THEY ARE DOING TRANSITIONS VERSUS
01:40:40PM JUST PAVING, BECAUSE IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE.
01:40:42PM BUT -- BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS FOR THE CITIZENS OF TAMPA WHO
01:40:48PM COME TO CITY COUNCIL EVERY WEEK TO SIT IN A ROOM THAT
01:40:51PM DESPERATELY NEED TO BE PARENTED.
01:40:53PM I WOULD BE EMBARRASSED THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR $450,000.
01:40:56PM AND I BELIEVE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, LAST YEAR HALF A
01:41:00PM MILLION DOLLARS SET UP FOR THE T-MOB LOBBY.
01:41:04PM EITHER T-MOB IS ABSOLUTELY FALLING APART AND 20, 30 YEARS
01:41:13PM OLD AND CITY HALL IS 100 YEARS OLD.
01:41:16PM AND NEED MORE ELEVATORS AND POWER TO THE ELEVATORS.
01:41:20PM FOR CITY HALL.
01:41:22PM SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
01:41:24PM UP DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
01:41:25PM I AM VERY OFFENDED ABOUT THE PARKING THING.
01:41:28PM WHERE IS THIS $12 MILLION COMING FROM.
01:41:31PM HAVE A GREAT DAY.
01:41:32PM THANK YOU.
01:41:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:41:34PM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE ONLY REGISTERED
01:41:40PM SPEAKER.
01:41:40PM AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
01:41:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WHEN THE CIP COMES UP, WE NEED TO
01:41:46PM FOCUS ON THE NEW PROJECTS AND REALLY HIGHLIGHT THEM.
01:41:49PM WE HAVE BEEN GETTING GREATER AND GREATER LEVELS OF
01:41:52PM TRANSPARENCY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
01:41:54PM BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVES THE CIP.
01:41:58PM AND IT IS AT LEAST YEARS AGO WAS SEEN AS A TENTATIVE THING.
01:42:03PM YOU CAN DO IT AND CHANGE IT, BUT EVENTUALLY YOU HAVE TO
01:42:08PM APPROVE THE CONTRACT.
01:42:09PM AND WHEN YOU GET TO THAT, YOU CAN'T UNDO IT.
01:42:13PM I THINK THE CIP DOES NOT REFLECT THE INTEREST OF THE
01:42:16PM COMMUNITY IN THE WAY THAT MONIES ARE BEING SPENT.
01:42:19PM IF YOU ADDED UP, THE -- AND NOT JUST CIP BUT OTHER AREAS.
01:42:26PM THE HANNA AVENUE, THE WEST RIVERWALK, AND THE -- AND THE --
01:42:32PM AND THE EXTRAORDINARY EXPENSIVE -- THE FAIR OAKS PARK ARE
01:42:39PM WAY BEYOND WHAT ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE WANTED.
01:42:42PM A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO SPEND THAT AMOUNT OF
01:42:45PM MONEY ON FAIR OAKS.
01:42:48PM PEOPLE IN WEST TAMPA WOULD RATHER HAVE THEIR OTHER PARKS
01:42:52PM FIXED.
01:42:53PM THE ISSUE IS, WE NEED TO SPEND MONEY WHERE PEOPLE NEED IT.
01:42:56PM IF PARKS ARE FALLING APART -- SURE MONEY FOR A.D.A. AND
01:43:01PM MONEY TO REPAIR PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
01:43:08PM IT DOESN'T SAY TO WHAT EXTENT.
01:43:10PM HOW MANY PARKS.
01:43:11PM DOES IT FIX ALL OF THEM.
01:43:13PM WAY UNBALANCED WHERE $200 MILLION, $300 MILLION ON PET
01:43:18PM PROJECTS AND THE REST OF IT IS STUFF THAT IS NECESSARY LIKE
01:43:21PM SIDEWALKS.
01:43:21PM THE PUBLIC WANTS US TO SPEND ON SIDEWALKS, PARKS AND FIXING
01:43:27PM THE ROADS.
01:43:28PM NEW SUBURB BEAUTIFUL IS THE WORST I HAVE SEEN IN THE CITY.
01:43:32PM AND I DON'T SEE THE MONEY IN HERE.
01:43:35PM AND WE HAVE GOT TO FIX THESE.
01:43:37PM FOLKS ARE TIRED OF WAITING.
01:43:39PM THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR -- YOU KNOW, SINCE THE GREAT
01:43:42PM RECESSION FOR SOME OF THESE THINGS TO HAPPEN.
01:43:44PM AND SOME OF THESE ROADS ARE NOT DRIVABLE.
01:43:47PM NEIGHBORHOODS ARE DANGEROUS BECAUSE PEOPLE HAVE TO WALK ON
01:43:49PM THE STREETS BECAUSE THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS.
01:43:51PM NO CROSSWALKS IN SOME PLACES.
01:43:54PM SO JUST TO HIT SOME HIGHLIGHTS.
01:43:58PM THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT IS, TO MY RECOLLECTION, NOT
01:44:03PM APPROVED YET.
01:44:03PM GREAT OPPOSITION IN THE COMMUNITY.
01:44:05PM THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE HIT BY FLOODING, BUT WE NEED TO
01:44:10PM ADDRESS THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
01:44:11PM I DON'T THINK THAT PUTTING ANY PROJECT DOWN SOUTH HOWARD IS
01:44:15PM GOING TO GO FROM A PUBLIC POINT OF VIEW AND EXTRAORDINARY
01:44:19PM EXPENSIVE.
01:44:19PM I UNDERSTAND THAT MONEY CAN ONLY BE SPENT ON THAT, BUT WE
01:44:22PM GOT TO FIND OTHER SOLUTIONS.
01:44:24PM THE PARKING SIGNAGE AND APP PROGRAM WE DELAYED LAST YEAR
01:44:28PM NEEDS TO BE DELAYED AGAIN.
01:44:29PM I SAW THAT $12 MILLION OR WHATEVER NUMBER THAT IS.
01:44:33PM I WAS IN ASIAN COUNTRIES AND THEY USE THESE KINDS OF SYSTEMS
01:44:38PM AND THEY ARE HELPFUL.
01:44:39PM THE PROGRAM DOWNTOWN -- OFFENSIVE THAT PEOPLE AROUND THE
01:44:43PM ADMINISTRATION BLAME CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY DELAYED THIS.
01:44:46PM THE PROBLEM IN PARKING DOWNTOWN IS RELATED TO TWO PLACES,
01:44:50PM TWO PRESSURE POINTS WHERE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT IS GIVEN TO
01:44:54PM PEDESTRIANS OVER DRIVERS.
01:44:54PM AND WE HAVE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER BALANCE FOR THAT.
01:44:58PM ALSO MOST ADVANCED FACILITIES PARKING AND PREPAID PARKING TO
01:45:05PM ADVANCED BUYERS OF TICKET CAN BE HANDLED REMOTELY FOR PEOPLE
01:45:11PM BEFORE THEY GET TO DOWNTOWN UNTIL WAITING UNTIL THEY GET
01:45:14PM DOWNTOWN.
01:45:15PM THE PARKING CONGESTION ON BAYSHORE BECAUSE APP AND SIGNAGE.
01:45:20PM WE SEE A SIGN AND THAT WILL SEND EVERYBODY IN THE RIGHT
01:45:23PM DIRECTION, NO, IT'S NOT.
01:45:25PM THE OTHER THING IS THE WASTE ENERGY PLANT.
01:45:27PM APP WHY THE PRIVATE SECTOR GAVE UP, BUT IT DIDN'T.
01:45:38PM APPEARS TO GO TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVERBUDGET.
01:45:42PM AND WE NEED TO GET ACCOUNTING OF THAT AND GET CONTROL OF IT
01:45:45PM AND SHOULD HAVE AT THE BEGINNING TO LET ANOTHER PRIVATE
01:45:55PM SECTOR COMPANY FROM $62 MILLION TO PROBABLY CLOSE TO $200
01:45:59PM MILLION IF WE ADD EVERYTHING UP.
01:46:00PM OTHER THING IS, I SAW IN HERE CAD SYSTEM FOR TFR.
01:46:08PM THE FIRE FIGHTERS ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO USE
01:46:11PM THEIR CELL PHONES TO GO OUT ON CALLS.
01:46:14PM THEY WERE CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY HAD TO USE THE SAME SYSTEM
01:46:16PM AS TPD.
01:46:17PM WE NEED TPD AND TFR TO HAVE THE TOOLS THEY NEED.
01:46:23PM IF THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEIR PHONES TO FIND PEOPLE'S
01:46:26PM HOUSES AND A DOT MATRIXES.
01:46:28PM IT IS DIFFICULT AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THOSE
01:46:31PM TOOLS CLENDENIN I PRETTY MUCH ECHO EVERYTHING THAT
01:46:35PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
01:46:36PM 100 THE EXPECTATION OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA IS
01:46:42PM BASIC CITY SERVICES AND I DON'T THINK FLIGHTS THIS REFLECT
01:46:45PM THAT.
01:46:45PM I BELIEVE WE HAVE -- THIS IS CLOSER THAN WHAT WE HAD THE
01:46:52PM LAST FISCAL YEAR AND STILL NOT QUITE THERE.
01:46:54PM I AGREE WITH THE PARKING GUIDANCE SYSTEM.
01:46:59PM A NICE HAVE THING, BUT NOT WHEN WE STILL HAVE SUBSTANDARD
01:47:03PM ROADS ALL OVER THE CITY.
01:47:06PM AND I HAVE A DIFFERENT TAKE ON THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT THAT
01:47:09PM I DISAGREE YOU WITH ON.
01:47:11PM WITHIN THE SOUTH HOWARD PROJECT.
01:47:14PM I TAKE ISSUE WITH A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I PROBABLY NEED TO
01:47:17PM ASK DEPARTMENT HEADS ABOUT IT.
01:47:19PM AS I WENT THROUGH THE BUDGET, I SAW THE MONEY CARRIED OVER,
01:47:23PM SPECIFICALLY IN PAVING.
01:47:25PM $7 MILLION CARRIED OVER IN PAVING.
01:47:28PM I WANT TO KNOW IF THIS COUNCIL ALLOCATED ALL THIS MONEY FOR
01:47:33PM PAVING IN 2024, WHOSE ROAD DIDN'T GET PAVED WHEN WE HAD
01:47:37PM MONEY SITTING IT WAITING TO BE USED.
01:47:40PM IF I WAS LIVING IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY ROAD WASN'T PAVED
01:47:43PM AND MR. BHIDE -- I WAS REALLY SHOCKED TO SEE SUCH A HUGE
01:47:52PM CARRYOVER IN PAVING.
01:47:53PM CAN YOU --
01:47:54PM >>VIK BHIDE: GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND COUNCIL.
01:47:57PM VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF MOBILITY.
01:47:59PM THE $7 MILLION THAT WAS ALLOCATED FOR PAVING AND SIDEWALKS
01:48:03PM LAST YEAR IS ALL PROGRAM AND BEING SPENT THIS YEAR.
01:48:06PM SO OFF THAT IN THE BREAKDOWN OF THAT MONEY IS $2 MILLION ARE
01:48:12PM BEING ALLOCATED TOWARDS A DESIGN-BUILD SIDEWALK CONTRACT,
01:48:17PM WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF RFQ.
01:48:20PM OF THE $5 MILLION.
01:48:22PM AND THAT WAS ALL TRANSFERRED TO TRANSPORTATION ACCOUNT.
01:48:28PM WE HAVE EXPENDED A MAJORITY OF THOSE MONIES WITH EQUIPMENT
01:48:33PM PURCHASES ADDING ADDITIONAL TEAM MEMBERS AND MATERIALS FOR
01:48:38PM PAVING AS WELL AS PAVING CONTRACTS.
01:48:40PM AND I CAN GET YOU A BREAKDOWN ON THAT.
01:48:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WILL BE GOOD TO HAVE THAT BREAKDOWN.
01:48:45PM SO -- SO, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU HAVE OBLIGATED THE MONEY --
01:48:50PM >>VIK BHIDE: CORRECT.
01:48:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR FY '24.
01:48:55PM >>VIK BHIDE: OR OBLIGATING IT AS WELL.
01:48:58PM PAVERS, DISTRIBUTORS AND PATCH TRUCKS.
01:49:00PM AND MORE ON ORDER RIGHT NOW ALSO.
01:49:03PM SO ALL OF THAT IS BEING SPENT.
01:49:04PM SO IT IS EITHER OBLIGATED OR SPENT BASED ON THE ALLOCATIONS
01:49:10PM FROM LAST YEAR.
01:49:11PM AND I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY ON THE PARKING GUIDANCE SYSTEM.
01:49:15PM IT WAS IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR AS WELL.
01:49:17PM TWO-YEAR.
01:49:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: UP CONCUR AND I PROBABLY WOULD MAKE A
01:49:28PM MOTION TO HAVE THAT STRICKEN AGAIN.
01:49:29PM IF WE ARE NOT MAKING THE BASIC NEEDS OF THE CITY.
01:49:33PM IF YOU CAN'T HAVE THE BASICS, YOU CAN'T HAVE IS THE NICE
01:49:36PM THING AND THE BASICS THAT PEOPLE EXPECT AND IT IS PAVING THE
01:49:40PM STREETS WHICH I KNOW.
01:49:43PM AND STILL NOT THERE YET.
01:49:46PM AND PASS THAT.
01:49:49PM AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
01:49:50PM AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS IN HERE THAT PROBABLY
01:49:54PM HAVE SOME MERIT AND SOME THINGS THAT DON'T.
01:49:57PM ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS OF MOBILITY.
01:50:01PM APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION ON THE CARRYOVER STUFF.
01:50:05PM WHAT THE HECK.
01:50:06PM YOU GAVE US ALL THIS MONEY AND YOU DIDN'T SPEND IT.
01:50:09PM HAPPY TO YOU HAVEN'T OBLIGATED AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE
01:50:13PM AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:50:14PM >>VIK BHIDE: ONE OTHER ITEM IS ON SIDEWALKS.
01:50:17PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE SIDEWALK BUDGET, $1.2 MILLION IN THE CIP.
01:50:22PM $700,000 OF THAT COME FROM PARKING AND SIDEWALKS.
01:50:26PM OVER AND ABOVE THE $7 MILLION.
01:50:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, YOU
01:50:32PM WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?
01:50:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAKE A MOTION TO STRIKE OUT OF THE BUDGET
01:50:36PM AND MOVE IT TO PAVING.
01:50:37PM OH, WE ARE IN A WORKSHOP.
01:50:40PM THAT WILL BE MY INTENTION.
01:50:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WHAT WAS THE ITEM?
01:50:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SMART PARKING.
01:50:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK --
01:50:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS CURB MANAGEMENT INITIATIVE.
01:50:54PM >>VIK BHIDE: $200,000.
01:51:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE $2 MILLION.
01:51:04PM IT'S NEW.
01:51:06PM PAGE 12.
01:51:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SMART CURB MANAGEMENT INITIATIVE, $3
01:51:20PM MILLION.
01:51:20PM TOWARD THE TOP OF PAGE 12.
01:51:28PM >>VIK BHIDE: MAY I HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES AND I WILL
01:51:30PM FOLLOW UP --
01:51:32PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:51:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
01:51:35PM $5 MILLION IN '25, '26.
01:51:40PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WASN'T '24.
01:51:42PM WHICH IT WASN'T.
01:51:43PM WE DID STRIKE IT TO 2024.
01:51:46PM ADDITIONALLY AND I KNOW I WILL GET PUSH BACK ON THIS, BUT I
01:51:50PM WILL ALSO MOVE THESE EV CHARGING STATIONS.
01:51:52PM $1.5 PROPOSAL WILL FOR THAT.
01:51:54PM AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD GO AFTER GRANT FUNDING FOR THAT.
01:51:58PM I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT AT ALL.
01:52:00PM THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD UNTIL THESE ROADS ARE
01:52:03PM PAVED.
01:52:04PM I THINK PARKING MONEY SHOULD GO TOWARD PAVING UNTIL WE ARE
01:52:07PM PAVED.
01:52:07PM I MEAN JUST LIKE -- I 100% AGREE WITH YOU ALL ON THAT.
01:52:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME ASK YOU THE QUESTION ON THE EV
01:52:16PM CHARGING STATION, COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
01:52:18PM I HAVE A GENTLEMAN THAT SAYS I HAVE A PARKING LOT AND
01:52:24PM CHARGERS -- HE DOESN'T MAKE ANY MONEY OF IT.
01:52:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT WE ARE PAYING FOR IT.
01:52:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
01:52:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS WHAT I MEAN BY GRANTS.
01:52:34PM IF SOMEONE COMES IN AND SAYS WE WANT TO DO IT.
01:52:37PM I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE SPENDING MONEY ON IT RIGHT NOW AT
01:52:40PM LEAST.
01:52:40PM I THINK WE COULD DO IT LATER.
01:52:42PM NOT FOR OUR CITY EV CHARGING STATIONS THAT WE NEED FOR
01:52:46PM OUR EV CARS THAT THE CITY OWNS.
01:52:47PM DIFFERENT THING.
01:52:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT ARE THEY IF THEY ARE NOT FOR THE
01:52:53PM CITY?
01:52:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FOR PARKING GARAGES.
01:52:55PM >>VIK BHIDE: SO WE LOOKED AT WHETHER WE CONTRACT OR WHETHER
01:52:58PM WE PURCHASE OUR OWN CHARGING EQUIPMENT FOR EVs, AND
01:53:05PM BASICALLY RIGHT NOW WHERE THE MARKET IS, IT WAS DEEMED TO BE
01:53:09PM MORE VIABLE FOR US TO PURCHASE OUR OWN CHARGERS.
01:53:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DID THEY MAKE MONEY?
01:53:14PM >>VIK BHIDE: IF WE CHARGE FOR PARKING, THEY MAY OFFSET SOM
01:53:18PM REVENUE, BUT THEY WILL NOT MAKE MONEY FOR AT THAT WHILE.
01:53:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO, LIKE I SAID, IT IS FINE TO DO IT
01:53:23PM EVENTUALLY, BUT FOR NOW --
01:53:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE RIGHT.
01:53:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: -- THAT $1.5 MILLION COULD DEFINITELY GO
01:53:30PM TOWARD PAVING.
01:53:30PM TO GO BACK TO THE GRANT SITUATION.
01:53:32PM I DO WANT TO -- I THINK IT IS WONDERFUL THAT WE ARE TRYING
01:53:36PM FOR GRANTS, BUT AT THE, IT FEELS ALMOST LIKE WE ARE TRYING
01:53:39PM FOR A MILLION DIFFERENT THINGS, AND IF WE GET IT, WE ARE
01:53:42PM SCRAMBLING TO FIND A MATCH.
01:53:44PM SO I -- I AM HOPING THAT IN THIS -- WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO
01:53:49PM SEE.
01:53:50PM I KNOW THERE IS A GRANT -- A MONTHLY GRANT REPORT THAT SHOWS
01:53:53PM WHERE OUR GRANTS ARE.
01:53:55PM IF WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
01:53:56PM IF THEY ARE STILL WAITING, BUT -- BUT I THINK ONE OF THE
01:53:59PM THINGS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IS WHERE THEY ANTICIPATE
01:54:02PM THAT MONEY COMING FROM.
01:54:04PM BUY AND LARGE.
01:54:05PM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT GOING FORWARD.
01:54:08PM AND IN FACT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT BY THE TIME OUR
01:54:13PM OPERATING BUDGET COMES FORWARD.
01:54:14PM AND IF THERE IS A WAY -- I SEE MR. ROGERO COMING UP.
01:54:18PM MAYBE YOU ALREADY DO THAT.
01:54:20PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: FIRST, IF I CAN ASK A CLARIFICATION.
01:54:22PM WHEN YOU SAY YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING
01:54:25PM FROM, FROM THE GRANTOR OR THE MATCH?
01:54:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE MATCH.
01:54:29PM WHERE DO YOU EXPECT TO GET THAT MONEY?
01:54:32PM WHAT I AM SEEING IS A LOT OF GRANTS YOU ARE SHOWING US TODAY
01:54:36PM AND YOU ARE SHOWING US THE GRANTS WILL BE PAID FOR BY
01:54:39PM BONDING.
01:54:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
01:54:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY ARE WE GOING AFTER THINGS THAT WE WILL
01:54:44PM HAVE TO BOND.
01:54:45PM WHAT IS THE ROI ON THAT?
01:54:48PM AT SOME POINT, IT DOESN'T FIT.
01:54:51PM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING A GOOD FIT.
01:54:54PM TO MAYBE JUST HAVE MORE OF A CONVERSATION OF THE GRANTS
01:54:58PM WHERE THEY ARE GOING FOR AND WHERE THE MONEY COMING FROM.
01:55:02PM BY AND LARGE.
01:55:03PM THE WEST RIVER IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE.
01:55:06PM BY THE TIME IT GOT TO US PAY THE $26 MILLION OR WE CAN'T
01:55:11PM HAVE IT.
01:55:12PM REALLY, IT SHOULD BE HAPPENING BEFORE HANDS.
01:55:14PM IF YOU APPLIED FOR A $20 MILLION GRANT AND THE MATCH IS $1
01:55:18PM MILLION.
01:55:18PM BUT IT IS A PAVING GRANT, I SAY.
01:55:22PM IT DOESN'T EXIST BUT WE WILL MAKE IT UP.
01:55:25PM A PAVING GRANT.
01:55:26PM WE HAVE TO PAY A MILLION, AND WHERE DOES THAT COME OUT OF?
01:55:30PM IT HAS TO COME OUT OF PARKING AND THIS FUNDS IN PARKING.
01:55:33PM FUNDS 101207 WHICH ISN'T THE RIGHT ONE.
01:55:37PM YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
01:55:39PM WHERE WILL THAT COME FROM.
01:55:40PM AND THAT IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US AS A WHOLE TO FIGURE
01:55:43PM THAT OUT.
01:55:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IN ORDER TO
01:55:47PM DO THAT, YOU ALMOST HAVE TO COMPLETE A SLUSH FUND.
01:55:50PM YOU CAN'T BUDGET FOR THE UNKNOWN.
01:55:51PM IT IS DIFFICULT -- DIFFICULT FOR A GOVERNMENT AGENCY TO -- I
01:55:55PM SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
01:55:56PM BUT -- IN FISCAL YEAR FINANCING AND ANTICIPATING SOMETHING
01:56:00PM THAT IS NOT EXISTING YET.
01:56:01PM IT IS -- I DON'T KNOW EVEN HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT.
01:56:05PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHY ARE WE GOING FOR A GRANT?
01:56:09PM WHY ARE WE GOING FOR IT THEN IF WE CAN'T PAY FOR THE MATCH?
01:56:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.
01:56:14PM I ABSOLUTELY SEE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
01:56:15PM MY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD ANSWER WILL BE, LIKE MANY OTHER
01:56:22PM THINGS, IT IS A BALANCE.
01:56:22PM DO WE -- AND THE WEST RIVER IS -- IS QUITE AN EXAMPLE,
01:56:27PM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND OUR CONTROL ELEVATED
01:56:30PM IT.
01:56:30PM AND WE THOUGHT WE HAD IT PLANNED OUT, AND BY THE TIME THOSE
01:56:34PM CIRCUMSTANCES CAME TO LIGHT, AND WE DID NOT.
01:56:36PM AND WE HAD TO BE FLEXIBLE.
01:56:39PM IN ANSWER -- OR IN RESPONSE TO YOUR COMMENT, COUNCILMAN
01:56:44PM CLENDENIN, YES, THERE IS A COUPLE OF WAYS TO GO ABOUT IT FOR
01:56:48PM POTENTIAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
01:56:51PM YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF DEDICATED RESERVE, ETC.
01:56:55PM IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE DIFFICULTY WITH FUNDS LIKE THAT,
01:56:57PM THOUGH, IS THEY ARE ALWAYS VULNERABLE TO BEING PULLED FOR
01:57:00PM OTHER USES.
01:57:01PM EVEN PRIOR TO KNOWLEDGE OF A POTENTIAL GRANT.
01:57:06PM SO LET US THINK ON THAT, IF YOU WILL.
01:57:09PM I ABSOLUTELY SEE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
01:57:12PM WHAT IS OUR TARGETED MATCH FUNDING FOR POTENTIAL GRANTS.
01:57:16PM ABSOLUTELY.
01:57:16PM WE CAN ITEMIZE THAT FOR YOU.
01:57:19PM IN TERMS OF -- IN TERMS OF WHAT WE DO IF OUR GRANT PLANNING
01:57:23PM GOES AWRY.
01:57:24PM FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT IS A BALANCE, AND WE CAN COME UP
01:57:27PM WITH DIFFERENT SCENARIOS FOR -- IF NOTHING ELSE, FOR
01:57:31PM ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES.
01:57:32PM I THINK FOR NOW, WE HAVE A HANDLE ON EVERYTHING BUT LET US
01:57:36PM COME BACK ON THAT IF WE WILL.
01:57:37PM >> I CAN APPRECIATE THAT.
01:57:39PM PART OF OUR RESERVE TO SOME DEGREE
01:57:41PM I THINK THAT WILL BE FINE, BUT JUST KNOWING THAT WE HAVE
01:57:43PM THIS RESERVE FOR GRANTS I THINK WILL MAKE A LOT OF US, AT
01:57:48PM LEAST ME, FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE VERACITY OF WHICH WE ARE
01:57:53PM ATTACKING GRANTS WHICH IS GREAT, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO
01:57:57PM PAY FOR THEM.
01:57:57PM MY BIGGER QUESTION, THOUGH.
01:57:59PM ON OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION, YOU SHOWED US SPEAKING OF THE
01:58:05PM RESERVES, LAST YEAR, WE HAD AGREED TO GO DOWN 1% AND TAKE $1
01:58:11PM MILLION OUT OF THE RESERVES, BUT WHEN YOU CAME BACK TO US IT
01:58:16PM WAS AT THE SAME PERCENTAGE.
01:58:17PM AND SO DID THAT MONEY ACTUALLY GET MOVED?
01:58:21PM AND IF SO, WHY ISN'T IT THE SAME PERCENT INSTEAD -- IF I
01:58:25PM REMEMBER CORRECTLY, 3% LAST YEAR.
01:58:28PM WE VOTED TO GO DOWN TO 22%.
01:58:31PM BUT WHEN YOU SHOWED US THE DEALT SYSTEM, IT WAS AT 23 FOR
01:58:37PM THIS YEAR.
01:58:38PM WHAT HAPPENED?
01:58:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IN A NUTSHELL, WE FINISHED STRONGER THAN WE
01:58:44PM ANTICIPATED IN THE CURRENTS HERE.
01:58:45PM WE FINISHED STRONGER THAN WE ANTICIPATED.
01:58:47PM HE WAS THINKING BACK, $5 MILLION FOR SOMETHING.
01:58:50PM AND IT DID, IT BROUGHT OUR POTENTIAL -- OR OUR PROJECTED
01:58:53PM FUND BALANCE TO 22-PLUS PERCENT.
01:58:57PM THE YEAR HAS BEEN BETTER THAN WE ANTICIPATED IN TERMS OF
01:59:00PM REVENUES AND EXPENSES AND WE SEE AS FINISHING THIS YEAR AS
01:59:05PM 23% IF NOTHING ELSE CHANGES.
01:59:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I GUESS THAT SORT OF BEGS THE QUESTION TO ME,
01:59:12PM WHY WEREN'T WE ASKED WHAT TO DO WITH THAT.
01:59:15PM FOR US IT IS 22%.
01:59:19PM IF WE GOT MONEY THIS YEAR, WE NEED TO ALLOCATE THAT TO
01:59:22PM SOMETHING WE WANTED TO SPEND IT ON.
01:59:24PM I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GOING TO THE RESERVING FOR THIS
01:59:27PM COMING YEAR.
01:59:27PM BUT LAST YEAR, WE AGREED WE WERE GOING TO SPEND THAT MONEY.
01:59:32PM AGAIN, JUST THINKING OF PAVING.
01:59:34PM THAT $5 MILLION COULD GO INTO PAVING.
01:59:36PM BUT I DON'T SEE -- IT NEVER CAME BACK TO US AS, HEY, WE HAVE
01:59:41PM THIS EXTRA MONEY.
01:59:41PM WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE RESERVES.
01:59:44PM IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU.
01:59:45PM THAT, TO ME, WOULD BE WHAT COUNCIL AS THE BUDGET FOLKS WOULD
01:59:48PM DO.
01:59:49PM I DON'T REMEMBER THAT COMING IN FRONT OF US.
01:59:51PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IT DIDN'T.
01:59:53PM AND I TELL YOU I SEE WHAT YOU ARE ASKING AND I RECEIVE YOUR
01:59:57PM PERSPECTIVE.
01:59:57PM FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE IDENTIFIED AND SUCCESSFULLY DID
02:00:01PM WHAT COUNCIL ASKED US TO DO WHICH IS SET ASIDE $5 MILLION.
02:00:05PM COUNCIL DIDN'T SAY WE WANT THE DESIRED ENDING FUND BALANCE
02:00:11PM AT 22%.
02:00:12PM I AM NOT PARSING WORDS.
02:00:14PM COUNCIL STAYED WE WANT THIS DONE.
02:00:16PM WE DID IT.
02:00:17PM AND BETTER THAN WE THOUGHT.
02:00:18PM IF THE COLONEL SAID WE WANT TO END THE FUND BALANCE AT 22%
02:00:22PM AND WHATEVER DELTA OR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE $5 MILLION AND
02:00:25PM 22%, WE WANT TO SEE AGAIN.
02:00:27PM BUT THAT IS NOT THE INSTRUCTION AS WE UNDERSTOOD IT.
02:00:32PM I ABSOLUTELY APPRECIATE YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THAT.
02:00:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THEN TO GO TOWARD THIS YEAR, AND, AGAIN, THIS
02:00:38PM KINDS OF COMES FROM THAT SAME PERSPECTIVE.
02:00:40PM WHAT -- HOW ARE WE GOING TO TRACK -- AS COUNCIL MAKES THESE
02:00:43PM CHANGES, LIKE, WE ARE GOING TO OBVIOUSLY VOTE TO -- I DON'T
02:00:48PM KNOW IF IT WILL PASS, TO REMOVE THE SMART CITY PARKING
02:00:51PM GUIDANCE.
02:00:52PM IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN TRACK THESE CHANGES IN REALTIME?
02:00:57PM LAST YEAR WAS A LITTLE CHAOTIC ABOUT THAT.
02:00:59PM AND SO WE NEVER REALLY GOT A FINAL BUDGET AS IT WERE AS TO
02:01:04PM WHERE THAT MONEY REALLY ENDED UP.
02:01:06PM SO IF THERE IS A WAY, I GUESS, MAYBE SORT OF SIMILAR TO THIS
02:01:10PM LITTLE LIST HERE.
02:01:12PM IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE A LIST, AN ONGOING LIST,
02:01:16PM AS WE ALL GATHER TOGETHER, ABOUT WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING
02:01:21PM AND TO SHOW IT MOVING FROM ONE PILE OF MONEY TO THE OTHER
02:01:27PM PILE OF MONEY OR HOWEVER THE -- THE PROJECT NUMBER OR THE --
02:01:33PM I AM SORRY, THE --
02:01:39PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I THINK I KNOW -- IF YOU DON'T MIND.
02:01:41PM I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ASKING.
02:01:43PM FROM MY PERSPECTIVE WHAT I WOULD CALL AN "EXCEPTION REPORT."
02:01:46PM THIS HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU.
02:01:47PM AND THESE ARE THE DIFFERENCES THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO --
02:01:50PM I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
02:01:52PM IF YOU HAVE PROJECT A, AND COUNCIL WANTS TO LOWER IT BY $1
02:01:56PM MILLION IN THE THIRD YEAR.
02:01:57PM OKAY, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT YOU EXCEPTION REPORT.
02:02:00PM IF THERE IS NO APPROPRIATION IN FISCAL YEAR '25, IT WOULDN'T
02:02:05PM CHANGE THE BUDGET.
02:02:05PM JUST THAT ONE YEAR, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU AN EXCEPTION
02:02:08PM REPORT TO ANY CHANGES COUNCIL AGREES UPON.
02:02:10PM WE CAN DO THAT.
02:02:12PM >> THAT WILL BE REALLY WONDERFUL GOING FORWARD.
02:02:14PM I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.
02:02:15PM AND I HAVE MORE THINGS BUT I AM OUT OF TIME FOR THIS ROUND.
02:02:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT TO EXPAND ON A QUESTION SHE ASKED.
02:02:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY.
02:02:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT IS PART OF THE
02:02:26PM FRUSTRATION.
02:02:27PM YOU SAID IT WAS BETTER THAN WE EXPECTED.
02:02:29PM HOW DO WE WORK INTO A PROCESS THAT WE KNOW WE ARE BETTER
02:02:32PM THAN EXPECTED SO WE CAN REALLOCATE FUNDS IN '25?
02:02:37PM SO THAT -- THAT WOULD BE MY REQUEST.
02:02:39PM IS HOW DO WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT YOU CAN SAY, HEY, BY THE
02:02:42PM WAY, OUR REVENUES ARE EXCEEDING OUR EXPECTATIONS AND WE WILL
02:02:47PM AN EXTRA $5 MILLION FOR FY '25.
02:02:52PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: WHAT I WILL BEGIN WITH, FIRST RECOMMEND ANY
02:02:56PM CHANGES OCCUR AFTER THE CLOSE OF THE FISCAL YEAR.
02:02:58PM AGAIN, IT REMAINS A PROJECTION.
02:02:59PM WE DO HAVE TWO MONTHS LEFT.
02:03:02PM WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANYTHING ADVERSE TO HAPPEN, WHICH IS WHY
02:03:06PM WE THINK IT WILL BE 23%.
02:03:08PM BLACK SWAN EVENTS, VOLATILITY, ETC., ETC.
02:03:12PM WE DO BRING YOU PERIODICALLY, YOU KNOW, FINANCIAL
02:03:17PM RESOLUTIONS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BETTER PROJECTIONS.
02:03:22PM AND WE DID THAT RECENTLY WHERE WE MOVED FUNDING INCREASE IN
02:03:26PM REVENUES AND IT ESCAPES ME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
02:03:30PM SO WE CAN ACCOMMODATE AN OVEREXPENDITURE IN THIS PARTICULAR
02:03:34PM AREA.
02:03:34PM I THINK WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR -- WHAT BOTH OF YOU ARE
02:03:40PM REFERENCING -- A BROADER AND MORE COMPREHENSIVE PICTURE
02:03:44PM OTHER THAN -- I GET IT -- OTHER THAN A FINANCIAL RESOLUTION
02:03:47PM WHICH TECHNICALLY YOU ARE SEEING AND APPROVING.
02:03:51PM SO OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD -- AND, AGAIN, IF YOU LET US THINK
02:03:56PM ON THIS.
02:03:56PM IF WE CAN COME BACK -- AND WE DO, MAKE IT OR OVERT.
02:04:00PM AS WE CLOSE THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR WITH A COMPARISON OF
02:04:02PM HOW WE -- I WILL TAKE THE GENERAL FUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW WE
02:04:06PM ENDED UP, HOW WE REALLY ENDED UP AFTER EVERYTHING IS AUDITED
02:04:11PM AND CLOSE THE BOOKS IN AN AMOUNT THAT WAS IN EXCESS OR NOT
02:04:14PM AS MUCH AS WE ANTICIPATED.
02:04:15PM AND THEN -- AND THEN MOVED FROM THERE.
02:04:17PM IT WON'T BE AS IMMEDIATE AS TAKING ACTION NOW, BUT I WOULD
02:04:21PM RECOMMEND THAT WE WAIT UNTIL WE KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE YEAR
02:04:25PM ENDS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE HAVE GOT TWO MORE MONTHS.
02:04:28PM AS YOU HAVE SEEN FROM THE RECENT MARKET EXAMPLE, THINGS CAN
02:04:33PM CHANGE PRETTY FAST.
02:04:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE ASKING.
02:04:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I AM SORRY, DID I MISUNDERSTAND.
02:04:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FROM YOUR PERCH UP THERE.
02:04:45PM MINE IS MORE OF A PURELY OPERATIONAL SENSE AND, YOU KNOW,
02:04:50PM EVERY MONTH I BUDGET MY CHECKBOOK AND I KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY
02:04:55PM I AM BRINGING IN AND HOW MUCH MONEY I AM SPENDING AND I CAN
02:04:58PM TRACK WHERE I EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS AND YOU ARE REALLY GOOD
02:05:02PM OF COMING TO US AND SAYING WE HAVE TO MOVE MONEY FROM A TO B
02:05:06PM BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
02:05:08PM IF YOU HAVE EXCESS FUNDS AND ARE NOT ALLOCATED.
02:05:11PM THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE SEEING.
02:05:12PM HOW DO WE SEE THAT?
02:05:14PM HOW DO WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT THAT COMES TO OUR ATTENTION SO
02:05:17PM THAT I KNOW IN JANUARY, THAT WE HAVE -- WE HAVE BASICALLY --
02:05:22PM WE ARE ANTICIPATING WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A $5 MILLION EXCESS
02:05:26PM AND $10 MILLION EXCESS IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT WE CAN USE THAT
02:05:30PM TO MEET SOME OF THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AND ALLOCATE IN WAYS
02:05:34PM THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD SEE FIT.
02:05:35PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: IF YOU DON'T MIND.
02:05:37PM THANK YOU.
02:05:38PM I THINK I HAVE A CLEARER PICTURE.
02:05:40PM LET US PERCOLATE ON THAT, IF YOU WILL.
02:05:42PM AND I WILL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
02:05:45PM I THINK WHAT COUNCIL WOULD HATE TO SEE IS, HEY, WE THOUGHT
02:05:50PM WE WOULD GET IT TO 23%.
02:05:52PM BUT WE ENDED AT 25%, NOBODY TOLD US.
02:05:55PM FAIR?
02:05:56PM DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?
02:05:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FAIR.
02:05:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: OKAY.
02:05:59PM IF YOU CAN GET US PERCOLATE ON -- AGAIN, PERIODICALLY WE
02:06:03PM WILL COME TO COUNCIL AND ASK YOU TO AMENDS THE BUDGET.
02:06:07PM WE ACTUALLY DO IT EVERY CITY COUNCIL.
02:06:10PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERY CITY COUNCIL.
02:06:14PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DO THINK AGAIN -- AND THIS IS MY TAKE --
02:06:18PM THAT THE COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE A BROAD CONCISE PICTURE.
02:06:21PM LET ME THINK ON THAT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, AND WE WILL CIRCLE
02:06:24PM BACK TO YOU.
02:06:25PM THANK YOU.
02:06:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA, MIRANDA, CARLSON.
02:06:28PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIR.
02:06:31PM AND THANK YOU, AS US, DENNIS, FOR YOUR DETAILED
02:06:35PM PRESENTATION.
02:06:35PM WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK.
02:06:37PM WE SEE A LOT OF THIS AS A DOWNPAYMENT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN
02:06:41PM THE FUTURE AND CONTINGENT ON WHAT YOU SAID CIT.
02:06:44PM I HAVE BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF MY CONSTITUENTS ON IT AND I
02:06:48PM WILL BE HAVING MEET TO PROMOTE IT AND I TELL PEOPLE IF YOU
02:06:51PM WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE AND DEFUND FIRE, THEN VOTE NO
02:06:55PM ON CIT BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS GOING TO DO AND
02:06:58PM WE NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT ON ALL THESE ISSUES, I THINK.
02:07:01PM ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT ON ROADS IS, WE ARE
02:07:05PM WAITING OVER LITTLE OVER HALF A BILLION DOLLARS FROM
02:07:08PM TALLAHASSEE.
02:07:08PM I KNOW A LOT OF THAT MONEY WILL GO TO TAX REBATES.
02:07:12PM I THINK ABOUT HALF OF THAT.
02:07:13PM WE SHOULD HAVE A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS TO SPEND ON ROADS
02:07:18PM IN THE COUNTY.
02:07:20PM I KNOW, RIGHT, BUT WE WILL GET A DECENT CHUNK OF THAT.
02:07:24PM WHENEVER IT COMES OUT OF WORKING WITH FDOT -- YOU WE HAVE TO
02:07:32PM PAY FOR ROAD REPAVING.
02:07:34PM FOR TALLAHASSEE, REBATES.
02:07:37PM IT IS WHAT IT IS.
02:07:38PM NOT JUST FOR ROAD REPAVING BUT FOR SIDEWALKS.
02:07:41PM IF WE CAN USE THAT MONEY FOR SIDEWALKS.
02:07:43PM AFT FOR SIDEWALK FUND AT $5,000 A YEAR TO $5 MILLION A YEAR
02:07:51PM WILL BE TREMENDOUS AND I THINK PEOPLE WILL SUPPORT IT.
02:07:56PM I TELL THIS ON THE BACK OF FOLKS' MINDS BECAUSE WE ARE
02:08:00PM GETTING 30th REPAVED AND PEOPLE IN NORTH TAMPA HAVE BEEN
02:08:03PM WORK ON THIS FOR YEARS.
02:08:04PM I WAS TALKING TO PEOPLE ON THE OTHER HALF OF TAMPA PALMS
02:08:08PM BOULEVARD, N. BOULEVARD IN FOREST HILLS AND OTHER PLACES.
02:08:11PM WE SHOULD GET TWO OF THOSE THREE DONE IN THE NEXT YEAR AND A
02:08:15PM HALF OR SO, BUT WE HAVE ALL THIS MONEY AND ONCE IT COMES, IT
02:08:18PM WILL REALLY HELP US OUT FOR, I WOULD THINK, ONE TO TWO YEARS
02:08:23PM BEYOND ANYTHING THAT WE ARE USED TO.
02:08:24PM BY THE WAY, WE SHOULD BE USED TO IT BECAUSE THAT MONEY
02:08:27PM SHOULD BE PERMANENT.
02:08:28PM I SEE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS.
02:08:30PM I KNOW WE WILL HEAR FROM CHIEF TRIPP AND CHIEF BERCAW ON
02:08:35PM CHIEF AND FIRE.
02:08:36PM HAPPY TO SEE FIRE STATION 24 THERE AND EVERYTHING.
02:08:39PM I STILL MAINTAIN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF MISSED
02:08:44PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR REVENUE THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS,
02:08:46PM WHETHER IT IS CRA FUNDING PRIORITIES WE CAN MOVE INTO
02:08:49PM GENERAL FUND OR OTHER DIFFERENT THINGS, PARTICULARLY AS IT
02:08:52PM APPLIES WITH APPLICATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
02:08:54PM I STILL MAINTAIN THAT WE NEED TO HAVE ON TOP OF CIT A
02:08:58PM DEDICATED FUND TO MAKE UP FOR THE PAST WITH POLICE AND WITH
02:09:02PM FIRE.
02:09:02PM AND THIS IS NOT POINTING FINGERS AT ANYBODY.
02:09:06PM CERTAINLY NOT EVERYBODY HERE.
02:09:07PM THAT IS FOR DARN SURE.
02:09:09PM YOU WITH I DO BELIEVE THAT IF WE HAVE NEEDS IN DOWNTOWN
02:09:12PM TAMPA, EAST TAMPA, WEST TAMPA AND I MAINTAIN WE NEED THAT AS
02:09:19PM WELL.
02:09:19PM BUT, AGAIN, WHEN I LOOK AT IT, IT -- HOW SHOULD I SAY IT --
02:09:24PM THE BUDGET IS THE WAY OF ROAD COULD GO ADVERSELY IF WE DON'T
02:09:28PM GET THAT CIT MONEY.
02:09:29PM BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER, I GUESS, BITE AT THE APPLE,
02:09:33PM AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IF IT FAILS IN '24.
02:09:35PM CAN WE COME BACK IN '26?
02:09:38PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MY UNDERSTANDING YOU HAVE TO WAIT FOUR
02:09:41PM YEARS IF IT FAILS.
02:09:42PM TWO YEARS WITH NO FUNDING.
02:09:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT WILL BE DEVASTATING IN THE SHORT RUN.
02:09:49PM THAT'S IT.
02:09:50PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, CARLSON AND ME.
02:09:54PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, YOU ALL.
02:09:56PM YOU ARE MAKING THE CHANGES AND GOING INTO CONSTRUCTION OF
02:09:59PM YOUR OWN APPARATUS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN.
02:10:02PM I HAVE SEEN SOME CHANGES IN THE AREA THAT I TRAVEL THROUGH
02:10:05PM MacDILL, WEST OF HIMES.
02:10:06PM MOST OF THOSE STREETS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SHAVED OFF AND PART
02:10:09PM OF THE SHAVING PAVING IS DONE ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER SIDE
02:10:17PM AND PART OF THE ROADWORK WHERE THE WATER WILL ACCUMULATE.
02:10:21PM THAT IS GONE.
02:10:21PM AND LOOKING MUCH BETTER.
02:10:23PM AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.
02:10:24PM BUT ON THE LONG RUN OF EVERYTHING, A BUDGET ONLY A
02:10:28PM GUESSTIMATE.
02:10:28PM DEPENDS ON MANY, MANY FACTORS INCLUDING THE WEATHER UP
02:10:32PM NORTH.
02:10:32PM IF THERE IS BAD WEATHER UP NORTH AND NOBODY CAN FLY, LOSE
02:10:37PM REVENUE IN TAMPA AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA.
02:10:40PM OVER 20 MILLION PEOPLE VISIT FLORIDA ON A DAILY BASIS --
02:10:44PM YEARLY BASIS, I SHOULD SAY, AND MAYBE EVEN MORE NOW.
02:10:47PM WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND YOU REALIZE WHAT HAS
02:10:50PM HAPPENED, YOU MAY WANT TO EVEN BLAME YOURSELF, I AM TALKING
02:10:55PM ABOUT ME, BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO THAT AND YOU GIVE THE MONEY
02:10:58PM THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE, LIKE, IN THE REVENUE SHARING OF
02:11:05PM THE CIT, YOU HAVE A PERCENT HIGHER THAN WHAT YOU ARE
02:11:08PM PRESENTING.
02:11:09PM THAT IS ONE.
02:11:09PM NUMBER TWO, GIVE THE REST OF IT AWAY FOR $2 MILLION
02:11:13PM SOMEWHERE ELSE, I AM NOT GOING TO SAY.
02:11:15PM ALL THE MONEY FOR PARK, THAT IS GIVEN AWAY.
02:11:18PM ALL THE THINGS YOU DO, THAT IS GIVEN AWAY.
02:11:21PM I GUARANTEE YOU, CLOSE TO HALF A BILLION DOLLARS THE LAST 30
02:11:26PM YEARS.
02:11:31PM IF YOU HAD THAT, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS, BUT YOU DON'T.
02:11:33PM THANK GOD WHAT HAPPENED ACROSS THE BAY.
02:11:36PM SO THEY CAN'T CRITICIZE ME.
02:11:41PM THANK YOU, MR. CLENDENIN AND FOR ALL OF THEM FOR LAUGHING.
02:11:44PM I MET IT AS A JOKE FOR YOU, SIR.
02:11:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
02:11:47PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
02:11:50PM WE TALK ABOUT HAMMERING OURSELVES.
02:11:52PM IT IS A GUESSTIMATE.
02:11:53PM IF THE WEATHER CHANGES, A FIRE SOMEWHERE YOU EITHER WILL
02:11:57PM HAVE AN INCREASE.
02:11:58PM AND IF YOU TALK OF THE ELECTRICAL CIRCUITS THAT YOU PUT UP
02:12:00PM TO COST MONEY, YOU MAY NEVER GET IT BACK, BUT IN ESSENCE,
02:12:04PM YOU DO GET IT BACK BECAUSE YOU ARE SAVING THE ENVIRONMENT,
02:12:07PM AND SAVING SOMEBODY THAT MISSED WORK, WENT TO WORK.
02:12:11PM THINGS OF VALUE.
02:12:12PM YOU LOOK AT PARKS AND RECREATION.
02:12:14PM I COME TO ONE PLACE THAT HAD ONE PARK CALLED PONCE DE LEON.
02:12:18PM IF NOT FOR THAT, CRIME WOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER.
02:12:21PM SO I AM WANTING TO SACRIFICE SOMETHING FOR BIG THINGS TO
02:12:24PM HELP PEOPLE HAVE AN IDEA WHAT REALITY REALLY IS, SO YOU CAN
02:12:27PM BETTER YOURSELF.
02:12:28PM THIS, WHAT WE ARE DOING IN EAST TAMPA, TO ME ANYWAY, IS A
02:12:33PM LOT MORE THAN JUST A PARK.
02:12:34PM YOU CAN CALL IT A $100 MILLION PARK, HALF A BILLION DOLLAR
02:12:41PM PARK.
02:12:41PM WHATEVER YOU WANT.
02:12:42PM I CALL IT A CHANGE IN SOCIETY.
02:12:43PM WHERE SOMEBODY CAN DO SOMETHING AND A CHANGE IN LIFE AND
02:12:46PM UNDERSTAND WHAT LIFE IS REALLY ABOUT, NOT WHAT THEY SEE
02:12:49PM EVERYWHERE, BUT WHAT THEY SEE AT THE PARK.
02:12:51PM AND HOW THEY ARE TREATED AT THE PARK.
02:12:53PM THIS IS A TEACHING THING TO MAKE CRIME A LITTLE LESSER.
02:12:56PM I AM TALKING FROM EXPERIENCE WHERE I COME FROM.
02:12:59PM THE KIDS THAT I PLAYED WITH AT THE PARK NEVER HAD PROBLEMS.
02:13:02PM THE ONES THAT WEREN'T AT THE PARK, SOME OF THEM HAD A LOT OF
02:13:07PM PROBLEMS.
02:13:07PM SO IT SAVES THE TAXPAYERS MONEY TO INVEST IN YOUR OWN THING.
02:13:13PM AND BY THE WAY, IT IS FUNNY HOW WE CALL SOMETHING $200
02:13:18PM MILLION SOMETHING ARE BECAUSE IT INCLUDES THE INTEREST.
02:13:20PM RAISE YOUR HANDS WHEN YOU BOUGHT A CAR, WOULD YOU THINK HOW
02:13:24PM MUCH INTEREST -- THE CAR DIDN'T REALLY COST $40,000 AND IT
02:13:28PM WAS $65,000.
02:13:29PM CAN YOU RAISE YOUR HAND AND -- RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU SAY I
02:13:32PM BOUGHT A HOUSE FOR $12,800, BUT DIDN'T INCLUDE THE INTEREST.
02:13:36PM BECAUSE YOU BOUGHT THE HOUSE FOR $12,000.
02:13:39PM NOT THE INTEREST.
02:13:40PM YOU THINK OF THINGS FOR SOCIETY, EVERYBODY WANTS TO SAY --
02:13:43PM OH, IT IS THIS AND THAT.
02:13:46PM YOU DAMN RIGHT IT IS.
02:13:48PM WE SPENDS TIME AND MONEY ON STREET AND THINGS.
02:13:51PM IT COSTS INTEREST.
02:13:53PM WHY THE PIPE PROGRAM.
02:13:55PM 53% OF THAT IS INTEREST-FREE.
02:13:58PM YOU GET MORE BUCK FOR YOUR MONEY AND MORE THINGS DONE.
02:14:01PM HOWEVER, THE PROBLEM WITH GOVERNMENT -- I AM NOT TALKING
02:14:04PM ABOUT THIS GOVERNMENT, BUT I AM TALKING OF ALL THE
02:14:07PM GOVERNMENTS.
02:14:07PM CHARGE YOU A BARE MINIMUM WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
02:14:10PM NEVER CHARGE YOU FOR REPLACEMENT OF A VEHICLE.
02:14:13PM DO WE CHARGE FOR REPLACEMENT OF VEHICLES OF POLICE?
02:14:17PM ABSOLUTELY NOT.
02:14:18PM DO WE CHARGE FOR REPLACEMENT OF ANY VEHICLES WE HAVE IN THE
02:14:21PM CITY THAT DO CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT VIDEO, ANY VEHICLES, THE
02:14:25PM ANSWER IS NONE.
02:14:26PM THEREFORE, WE ARE THE ONES DOING IT INCORRECTLY.
02:14:29PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:14:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMEMBER -- LET THE RECORD SHOW
02:14:33PM THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IS HERE.
02:14:34PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PRESENT.
02:14:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:14:38PM >>VIK BHIDE: CHAIR, IF I CAN CLARIFY THE QUESTION EARLIER
02:14:41PM AND MY APOLOGIES THAT I DIDN'T HAVE IT ON HAND.
02:14:45PM SMART CITY CURB MANAGEMENT ITEM FOR $3 MILLION.
02:14:48PM THAT IS ACTUALLY FOR COMMERCIAL STREETS WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT
02:14:51PM OF LOADING AND UNLOADING ACTIVITY.
02:14:53PM AS WE GROW RAPIDLY, WE SEE A LOT OF NEEDS TO MANAGE THAT
02:14:56PM BETTER.
02:14:58PM AND THAT IS REALLY A ASSIGNING MONIES FOR TECHNOLOGIES AND
02:15:02PM DEVICES TO BE ABLE TO MONITOR AND ENFORCE THOSE WORK ZONES
02:15:06PM BETTER.
02:15:07PM BY NO MEANS TODAY IS THAT A RELATIVE TO THE CONVERSATION
02:15:12PM THAT IS HAPPENING A PRESSING NEED.
02:15:19PM BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL BE OPEN TO.
02:15:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE NEED A BRIEFING OUTSIDE OF THIS
02:15:24PM ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE CAN GET A DETAILED BRIEFING ON IT.
02:15:27PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
02:15:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
02:15:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS FOR YOU ON THIS -- I
02:15:34PM FORGET WHAT IT IS CALLED, THE DOWNTOWN PARKING SIGNAGE
02:15:39PM PROJECT.
02:15:39PM >>VIK BHIDE: PARKING GUIDANCE.
02:15:41PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU SAID -- LAST YEAR $7 MILLION.
02:15:43PM $7 MILLION.
02:15:45PM 7 MILLION, $5 MILLION THE NEXT >>VIK BHIDE: $5 MILLION THIS
02:15:50PM YEAR, THEN 7 MILLION.
02:15:52PM >>BILL CARLSON: $2 MILLION WAS SPENT SOMEWHERE?
02:15:55PM WHERE DID THE $2 MILLION.
02:15:57PM >>VIK BHIDE: BASICALLY, WE HAVE A BETTER UNDER STANDING OF
02:16:00PM THE SCOPE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE CAN DO.
02:16:02PM AND ALSO A COUPLE OF OTHER PROJECTS DOWNTOWN THAT ARE MOVING
02:16:06PM FORWARD FROM PARTNERS.
02:16:07PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST LESS.
02:16:09PM >>VIK BHIDE: EXACTLY.
02:16:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST FOR DENNIS.
02:16:12PM MR. ROGERO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUMP UP.
02:16:15PM I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I HAD THE SAME CONCERNS AS MY
02:16:18PM COLLEAGUES ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT ANY SURPLUS COMES BEFORE
02:16:26PM CITY COUNCIL AND BY CHARTER WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE BUDGET.
02:16:28PM IF IT COMES TO US AS A CHANGE ORDER THAT WE GET EVERY WEEK
02:16:33PM AND WANT TO MOVE $5 MILLION FROM THAT LINE ITEM TO THAT LINE
02:16:36PM ITEM.
02:16:37PM DOESN'T GIVE US TRANSPARENCY IN KNOWING THAT -- OR THE
02:16:40PM PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY THAT THAT IS A NEW DECISION.
02:16:43PM IDEALLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN AND THIS IS GRAY IN THE CHARTER,
02:16:49PM EVERY $10 MILLION BECAUSE WE HAVE A SURPLUS, THE
02:16:52PM ADMINISTRATION OF CITY COUNCIL WILL HAVE A JOINT
02:16:56PM CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
02:16:57PM AND SAY THIS IS THE RECOMMENDATION AND HAVE A CONVERSATION.
02:16:59PM MOST OF THE TIME WE AGREE WITH THEIR PROPOSALS, BUT I THINK
02:17:03PM CITY COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN APPROVING
02:17:06PM ANY -- ANY SURPLUSES AND IN PARTICULAR, IF WE ARE HAVING
02:17:16PM MONEY TO BE SPENT ON A SURPLUS, IT NEEDS TO BE CLEARLY
02:17:19PM INDICATED THAT IS SURPLUS MONEY SO WE KNOW WHERE THAT IS
02:17:22PM COMING FROM AND WHERE IT IS GOING.
02:17:24PM THE SAME THING IF WE HAD A CHANGE ORDER WHERE WE CHANGED
02:17:27PM SOMETHING.
02:17:27PM IF MONEY -- IF BY NOT FILLING TEN POSITIONS, THE
02:17:31PM ADMINISTRATION SUDDENLY HAVE $2 MILLION TO SPEND ON A
02:17:36PM PROJECT WE TOOK OUT OF THE BUDGET.
02:17:38PM THE SAME THING THEY SHOULD COME BACK US TO AND EXPLAIN TO US
02:17:42PM WHAT IS HAPPENING SO WE FIND OUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
02:17:45PM THE PUBLIC -- WE ARE ON THE FRONT LINE WITH THE PUBLIC EVERY
02:17:48PM DAY.
02:17:48PM WHEN THE PUBLIC FINDS OUT ABOUT THESE THINGS, WE GET ALL
02:17:52PM KINDS OF CALLS.
02:17:53PM IT IS BETTER FOR EVERYONE NOT TO HAVE TO DO THAT.
02:17:55PM LASTLY, MY GOAL FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF MY TIME SIX,
02:18:00PM SEVEN YEARS AGO INCREASE THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE BECAUSE
02:18:03PM ITS LAST ADMINISTRATION RAIDED HALF OF IT.
02:18:05PM NOW WE ARE FINALLY 10, 12 YEARS LATER WE ARE UP TO THE SAME
02:18:09PM LEVEL OF GENERAL FUND BALANCE THAT PAM IORIO LEFT IN THE
02:18:13PM GREAT RECESSION.
02:18:14PM AND I THINK IT WAS TERRIBLE THAT HALF OF IT WAS SPENT DURING
02:18:17PM THE BOON TIME.
02:18:18PM BUT I AM ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF ADDING MORE MONEY TO THE GENERAL
02:18:23PM FUND BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE PETITION BEGINNING WE
02:18:25PM DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ECONOMY WILL DO.
02:18:28PM WHEN I FIRST STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT SIX, SEVEN YEARS AGO
02:18:31PM WE DIDN'T KNOW COVID WAS COMING AND THANK GOODNESS WE DID
02:18:34PM PUT MORE MONEY AWAY.
02:18:35PM BUT, I THINK, AGAIN, LIKE MY COLLEAGUES SAID, CITY COUNCIL
02:18:40PM NEEDS TO MAKE THE DECISION.
02:18:41PM NOT THAT WE WOULDN'T PUT IT IN THE GENERAL FUND BALANCE, BUT
02:18:45PM TALK ABOUT WHAT THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES ARE.
02:18:47PM WE WANT THE BOND RATINGS TO STAY HIGH, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO
02:18:52PM TRADE OFF BETWEEN THAT AND THE SERVICES FOLKS NEED IN THE
02:18:55PM PUBLIC, THANK YOU.
02:18:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:18:57PM COUNCILMEMBER --
02:19:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU WANTED TO TALK.
02:19:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A QUICK COMMENT OF THE SMART PARKING
02:19:07PM GUIDANCE AND THE EV CHARGING STATION.
02:19:09PM THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT WE GET IS "PLEASE PAVE OUR ROADS."
02:19:15PM I KNOW THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT ITEMS AND BIG TICKET ITEMS,
02:19:18PM BUT PEOPLE ARE GENERALLY VERY SIMPLE.
02:19:19PM FIX MY ROAD.
02:19:20PM FIX MY ROAD.
02:19:21PM ESPECIALLY AFTER THIS STORM BECAUSE RAINING FOR 24 HOURS NOW
02:19:24PM NONSTOP, GIVE OR TAKE.
02:19:26PM THE POTHOLES THAT WE FELL ARE GETTING HIT BY CARS ON TAMPA
02:19:30PM STREET.
02:19:30PM AND I KNOW THOSE ARE STATE ROADS AND WHATEVER, BUT, I HIT
02:19:35PM POTHOLE AFTER POTHOLE.
02:19:37PM I SPENT -- EARLIER THIS YEAR $900 REPLACING A CV JOINT
02:19:43PM WHATEVER IT FROM -- IS THAT JUST WEAR AND TEAR.
02:19:45PM HE SAID YOU HAVE BEEN HITTING POTHOLES.
02:19:48PM AGAIN, PEOPLE ARE SIMPLE IN THE SENSE THAT THE BIGGEST THING
02:19:51PM THAT I GET, GUIDO, NEXT OUR ROADS.
02:19:55PM IT IS A BEAUTIFUL PARK.
02:19:56PM AND A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT.
02:19:57PM WHATEVER IT IS.
02:19:58PM THE THINGS THAT WE DO.
02:19:59PM BUT IF WE DO THAT, I KNOW THIS IS IMPORTANT, BUT IF WE CAN
02:20:03PM FOCUS ON SOME OF OUR WORST ROADS.
02:20:05PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON MENTIONED BAYSHORE BEAUTIFUL.
02:20:09PM I LIVE OFF OF HABANA.
02:20:11PM IMPROVEMENTS AT HABANA AND COLUMBUS.
02:20:14PM WE HAVE THE GRANT RUN IN KATHY CASTOR DID THAT WHOLE PRESS
02:20:19PM CONFERENCE FROM MLK TO HILLSBOROUGH.
02:20:25PM SOUTH OF THERE ROADS ARE TERRIBLE.
02:20:29PM SOUTH TAMPA.
02:20:30PM I TAKE MY YOUNGEST TO SCHOOL AND I CROSS TO SAN JOSE AND
02:20:33PM SOME OF THE ROADS ARE TERRIBLE.
02:20:34PM I COULD MAKE A LIST.
02:20:36PM I THINK WE SHOULD PRIORITIZE THOSE FIRST.
02:20:39PM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO REPAVE CITY STREETS, BUT IF WE CAN
02:20:42PM MAKE A DENT -- AND I KNOW, AGAIN, THESE ARE IMPORTANT, BUT
02:20:46PM IF WE CAN PUT THAT TOWARD PAVING AND I KNOW IT HAS BEEN SAID
02:20:49PM BEFORE BY PREVIOUS INDIVIDUALS HERE, YOU KNOW, I AM NOT
02:20:52PM GOING TO PUT MONEY ON ASPHALT.
02:20:54PM I AM NOT GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON ASPHALT.
02:20:57PM I THINK WE SHOULD.
02:20:59PM THE BIGGEST THING THAT PEOPLE WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT.
02:21:01PM AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID, WE ARE ON THE FRONT LINES.
02:21:04PM I GOT CONTACTED AT 12:30 SATURDAY NIGHT -- A.M.
02:21:08PM AND I DON'T SLEEP.
02:21:09PM SO I GET A CALL ABOUT THAT.
02:21:11PM I GOT CALLED YESTERDAY -- I WAS HAVING LUNCH WITH MY DAD
02:21:14PM BECAUSE I LIKE TO SPEND TIME WITH MY FATHER.
02:21:16PM WE DO GET FAMILY TIME.
02:21:18PM 2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON ON A SUNDAY, POURING RAIN.
02:21:21PM MY STREET IS FLOODED.
02:21:23PM THIS IS FLOODED.
02:21:24PM AGAIN, WE ARE ON THE FRONT LINES.
02:21:26PM WE GET THE BRUNT OF COMPLAINTS.
02:21:28PM AND IF WE CAN POSTPONE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE, WE CAN FREE
02:21:33PM UP MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WE CAN MAKE A KIND SAY, LOOK, WE
02:21:36PM CAN HAVE RIBBON CUTTING AND PRESS CONFERENCES ON STREET
02:21:42PM REPAVING AND PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
02:21:43PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:21:44PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
02:21:45PM MR. ROGERO, MAY I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION?
02:21:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES.
02:21:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IS YOUR SYSTEM OF COMPUTERS SET UP SO
02:21:53PM THAT EVERY QUARTERLY, EVERY 90 DAY IT WILL FIND OUT AND GIVE
02:22:00PM YOU RESULTS OF WHAT YOUR ANTICIPATED BUDGET IS IF YOU ARE
02:22:02PM OVER, UNDER.
02:22:03PM CAN YOU GIVE A REPORT TO THE COUNCIL EVERY 90 DAYS TO
02:22:06PM SATISFY THIS.
02:22:08PM SO WE HAVE COMPLETE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PUBLIC
02:22:10PM UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING -- NOT TO SAY THAT YOU ARE HIDE IT OR
02:22:14PM NOT, BUT JUST TO SAY, HERE IT IS.
02:22:16PM THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
02:22:17PM AND IF IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE $20 AND CAME OUT AT $22.
02:22:23PM A $2 PLUS OR $18, $2 MINUS OR WHATEVER.
02:22:28PM CAN YOU GIVE US A REPORT ALONG WITH WHAT MR. CARLSON A
02:22:32PM SAYING AND ON A QUARTERLY BASIS SO WE UNDERSTAND QUICKLY
02:22:35PM WHAT IT IS.
02:22:37PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I THINK WE CAN.
02:22:39PM EXCELLENT SUGGESTION ON A QUARTERLY BASIS.
02:22:42PM AS I THOUGHT OF IT.
02:22:44PM I WOULD LIKE TO COME BACK WITH THE CERTAINTY.
02:22:46PM I AM STUNG WITH THE OVERPROMISE I MADE ON THE CIP
02:22:50PM SUPPLEMENTAL REPORT THAT WOULD GO A LOT EASIER THAN IT DID.
02:22:54PM I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU A SOLID,
02:22:57PM REASONABLE PROJECTIONS EVERY QUARTER.
02:23:00PM OF COURSE WE GIVE YOU THE MIDYEAR AND GOT THAT.
02:23:02PM IF YOU DON'T MIND IF I CIRCLE BACK, ACCELERATING --
02:23:06PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THE CAPACITY OF THE COMPUTER TO HAVE
02:23:08PM THAT.
02:23:08PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY -- WHATEVER YOU DO.
02:23:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I RESPOND.
02:23:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND THEN HURTAK.
02:23:15PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
02:23:17PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT WORD THAT YOU USED.
02:23:19PM YOU THOUGHT THE REPORT WOULD GO MORE SMOOTHLY.
02:23:22PM I THINK THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE NEEDED.
02:23:24PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
02:23:25PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU AND YOUR DEPARTMENT ARE DOING AN
02:23:27PM OUTSTANDING JOB.
02:23:28PM YOU ARE PROVIDING MORE AND MORE LEVELS OF TRANSPARENCY EVERY
02:23:31PM YEAR.
02:23:32PM AND THIS LEVEL OF DETAIL AND THIS DISCUSSION IS EXACTLY WHAT
02:23:35PM WE HAVE ALWAYS NEEDED.
02:23:36PM THE PROBLEM IS WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DISCUSSION ALWAYS BEFORE.
02:23:39PM AND THIS IS EXACTLY -- AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE GOOD THING
02:23:43PM ABOUT DEMOCRACY IS IT IS MORE REPRESENTATIVE.
02:23:46PM THE BAD THING IS, YOU GET A LOT OF DIFFERENT FEEDBACK AND
02:23:50PM INPUT.
02:23:50PM SO IT IS AN IMPERFECT SYSTEM.
02:23:53PM THE DISCUSSION IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR DEMOCRACY THAT WORKS.
02:23:57PM FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
02:23:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE THAT.
02:24:01PM I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T THINK OF THE CHIEF OF STAFF
02:24:05PM FOR STICKING TO IT.
02:24:05PM IT WAS MORE DIFFICULT THAN I ANTICIPATED, BUT THANK YOU.
02:24:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:24:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON SAID.
02:24:14PM AND THIS DOCUMENT WHERE IT HAS -- BREAKS DOWN THE DEBT INTO
02:24:17PM THE FOUR DIFFERENT WAS ABSOLUTELY EXACTLY WHAT I ASKED FOR.
02:24:21PM AND MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC WHERE THAT MONEY IS.
02:24:24PM AND IT MADE IT CLEAR TO US TOO.
02:24:26PM I REALLY APPRECIATE IT FROM A VISUAL PERSPECTIVE.
02:24:30PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THANK YOU.
02:24:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALONG THOSE LINES.
02:24:33PM WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT THE MAJOR PROJECTS ON THE FIRST FEW
02:24:36PM PAGES.
02:24:36PM IT HAS THE PROJECT AND A BULLET.
02:24:38PM I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD -- THIS -- I KNOW THEY
02:24:42PM ARE ALREADY IN HERE TO SOME DEGREE, BUT JUST TO HAVE A QUICK
02:24:47PM ITEM NEXT TO IT WITH WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING THAT TO COST.
02:24:51PM BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WHERE IT SAYS "VARIOUS NEIGHBORHOOD
02:24:55PM PARKS."
02:24:56PM WELL, THAT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD PARK GOING
02:25:00PM TO BE -- THAT IS BASICALLY THE QUESTION WE ARE GOING TO GET
02:25:03PM ASKED FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS, WHICH NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND
02:25:08PM WHAT ARE THEY GETTING?
02:25:09PM I KNOW YOU CAN'T GET INTO THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL NECESSARILY,
02:25:12PM BUT IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW.
02:25:13PM AND SAME THING WITH THE ATHLETIC FIELD LIGHTING CITYWIDE,
02:25:17PM WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN.
02:25:18PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: OKAY.
02:25:21PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING THAT
02:25:23PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TALKED ABOUT JUST BRIEFLY OF THE CIP
02:25:27PM BEING A LONG-TERM PLANNING DOCUMENT.
02:25:29PM THE FACT THAT WE -- SOMETHING YOU SAID EARLIER -- THAT WE
02:25:32PM ARE ONLY APPROVING THIS FISCAL YEAR.
02:25:35PM WHILE IT IS A PLAN, IT REALLY CAN'T BE CONSIDERED -- IT
02:25:39PM CAN'T BE CONSIDERED ANYTHING WRITTEN IN STONE, BUT SOMETIMES
02:25:42PM IT COMES BACK TO US.
02:25:44PM AND THEY SAID YOU ALREADY APPROVED IT BECAUSE YOU APPROVED A
02:25:46PM FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
02:25:47PM THAT IS NOT TRUE, BECAUSE LEGALLY WE CANNOT.
02:25:50PM WE CAN NOT APPROVE THE FORTHCOMING FOUR YEARS.
02:25:54PM WE ARE ONLY LEGALLY ALLOWED TO APPROVE 2025.
02:25:58PM SO I DEFINITELY JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT.
02:26:00PM I THINK WE SHOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER IT AS A LONG-TERM
02:26:04PM PLANNING DOCUMENT AND REALIZING THAT THE ONLY THING SET IN
02:26:08PM STONE IS THIS FISCAL YEAR.
02:26:10PM AND THEN I WANTED TO ASK I AM SORRY, MR. BHIDE, MAYBE YOU
02:26:20PM SHOULD STAY UP HERE.
02:26:23PM I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIG CONVERSATION.
02:26:25PM MR. ROGERO --
02:26:27PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: STICK AROUND.
02:26:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOT SURE WHICH ONE OF YOU.
02:26:31PM LOOKING FOR PAVING IN THE CIP HAS BEEN DIFFICULT, AND
02:26:34PM BECAUSE THERE WAS A TRAFFIC AND CITYWIDE, A STREET
02:26:38PM RESURFACING VERSUS A TRAFFIC OPERATIONS ONE OF THEM -- THE
02:26:42PM TRAFFIC OPERATIONS HAVE $1.3 MILLION AND RESURFACING $1.4
02:26:47PM MILLION.
02:26:47PM DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE $5.4 MILLION.
02:26:51PM WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF PAVING
02:26:54PM THAT IS ALREADY IN THIS BUDGET WHAT IS THE NUMBER.
02:26:58PM WHERE CAN WE FIND IT AND, AGAIN, THE PUBLIC, THERE IS THEIR
02:27:02PM BIGGEST THING.
02:27:07PM >>VIK BHIDE: OF COURSE.
02:27:07PM THAT IS ABSOLUTELY FAIR.
02:27:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WILL BE HELPFUL.
02:27:11PM >>VIK BHIDE: TWO ITEMS IN CIP BUDGET FOR PEACHING.
02:27:14PM SPECIFICALLY CALLED OUT FOR PAVING MORE NUANCED.
02:27:22PM CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THE RIGHT-OF-WAY MAY HAVE PAVING
02:27:27PM ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
02:27:28PM BIG ONES HAVE PAVING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
02:27:31PM I WOULD WALK DOWN OUR PAVING BUDGET.
02:27:35PM $4.14 MILLION IDENTIFIED AS CONTRACTOR PAVING THAT IS IN OUR
02:27:40PM TRANSPORTATION CIP.
02:27:41PM AND $1.35 FOR IN-HOUSE OPERATIONS.
02:27:47PM THAT IS BASICALLY CIP BUDGET ALLOCATED TO OUR IN-HOUSE TEAMS
02:27:52PM FOR IN-HOUSE PAVING.
02:27:54PM SUPPLEMENTS THEIR OPERATING BUDGETS AS WELL, BECAUSE
02:27:57PM OPERATIONS BUDGETS ARE LIMITED AND HAVE BEEN LIMITED
02:28:01PM HISTORICALLY.
02:28:02PM IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHEN WE DO THINGS LIKE GRANTS.
02:28:05PM WEST RIVER WALKS OR SAFE STREETS FOR ALL, THEY ALL INCLUDE A
02:28:12PM CERTAIN DEGREE OF PAVING.
02:28:13PM ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS, SAFE STREETS FOR ALL, WILL HAVE
02:28:17PM MILLION RESURFACING PART OF IT WHICH INCLUDES HABANA AND
02:28:23PM THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
02:28:25PM WE HAVE OTHER PROJECTS AS WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, VISION ZERO
02:28:28PM SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS WHICH IS $925 MILLION SO THAT PEAS FOR A
02:28:34PM LOT OF OUR QUICK BUILD PROJECTS AND OUR VISION ZERO TECH
02:28:38PM THEMES AND OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, EITHER WORKING WITH
02:28:41PM CONTRACTORS LIKE WE DID ON CLEVELAND OR WORKING WITH OUR
02:28:45PM OPERATIONS PAVING TEAM THAT WE ARE EXPANDING RIGHT NOW TO DO
02:28:50PM QUICK BUILD PROJECTS LIKE WE ARE DOING ON HOWARD AND ARMENIA
02:28:53PM RIGHT NOW.
02:28:54PM AND SO ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS INCLUDE PAVING AND REDESIGN.
02:28:58PM HENCE THEIR VISION ZERO.
02:28:59PM BECAUSE REDESIGN ELEMENT IS CRITICAL.
02:29:03PM TO THE BROADER POINT MENTIONED BY THE CLEAR AND IN FACT ALL
02:29:08PM OF YOU, WE COMPLETELY CONCUR.
02:29:10PM PAVING ISN'T JUST PAVING FOR THE REASONS I JUST MENTIONED.
02:29:13PM SO WHEN YOU INVEST IN PAVING, YOU ARE ALSO INVESTING IN
02:29:17PM VISION ZERO AND REDESIGN AND MULTIMODAL FACILITIES, BUT THE
02:29:22PM ANSWER IS MORE NUANCED BECAUSE MOST OF THESE PROJECTS COULD
02:29:25PM INCLUDE PAVING UNLESS IT IS JUST PURELY PAVING WHICH IS JUST
02:29:29PM PAVING.
02:29:30PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
02:29:31PM I APPRECIATE THAT.
02:29:33PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
02:29:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY PAVING QUESTIONS.
02:29:37PM NOW I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MULKEY.
02:29:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THEN WE WILL GO TO COUNCILMAN VIERA AND
02:29:46PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:29:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
02:29:48PM SO WE ARE GOING TO HIT THE -- THE HIGH NOTE, THE SULPHUR
02:29:54PM SPRINGS POOL.
02:29:54PM NOW I DID LOOK, AND THE EXISTING FUNDING, WHICH IS THE $1.6
02:30:00PM MILLION FOR POOL IMPROVEMENTS AND THE $495,000 FOR POOL
02:30:03PM DECK.
02:30:04PM AND POOL DECK, I BELIEVE HAVE THIS YEAR.
02:30:06PM SHOWER THIS DIVIDED -- I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY GOT DIVIDED
02:30:10PM INTO TWO DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
02:30:11PM SOMEHOW THE -- THE POOL IMPROVEMENT IS IN DISTRICT SIX, BUT
02:30:15PM THE POOL DECK IS IN DISTRICT FIVE.
02:30:17PM AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW -- I DON'T KNOW IF THE LINE JUST
02:30:20PM DIVIDES RIGHT THROUGH THE POOL OR WHAT.
02:30:23PM BUT I -- I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT -- THAT Y'ALL ARE
02:30:29PM AWARE OF THAT IN FINANCE.
02:30:30PM I THINK IT HAS TO DO WITH SOME -- SOME POPULATION SHIFTS
02:30:34PM BEFORE THE -- BEFORE THE ELECTION.
02:30:39PM GENERALLY WE DO --
02:30:41PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I AM THINKING WE JUST MADE A MISTAKE BUT WE
02:30:44PM WILL CONFIRM THAT AND I WILL GO WITH THE BOUNDARY WENT RIGHT
02:30:46PM THROUGH, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE CASE.
02:30:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: LOOKING A THAT THE, I THINK HELPFUL FOR A LOT
02:30:50PM OF PEOPLE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO DIGGING FOR THAT.
02:30:52PM AND I WANT TO MENTION THAT.
02:30:54PM BUT IS THIS -- BUT SO FAR THAT IS WHERE THE MILLIONS DOLLARS
02:31:00PM IS COMING FROM THAT THE MAYOR TALKED ABOUT, 1.6 THAT WAS
02:31:03PM ALREADY THERE.
02:31:04PM SO THE ONLY THING BEING ALLOCATED THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE LESS
02:31:08PM THAN HALF A MILLION.
02:31:09PM >>TONY MULKEY: GOOD AFTERNOON, TONY MULKEY, PARKS AND
02:31:13PM RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
02:31:14PM THE ALLOCATION OF THAT HALF A MILLION, ACTUALLY GOES BACK
02:31:17PM FURTHER TO 2019, I BELIEVE, FISCAL YEAR 2019, AND ITS HAS
02:31:22PM BEEN CARRIED OVER.
02:31:23PM WE HAD A STUDY DONE ON THE POOL BACK IN 2019 WHEN WE HAD A
02:31:27PM CAVE IN ON PART OF THE DECK PORTION TO PROVIDE SOME REPAIRS
02:31:32PM THERE TO FIND AN EXTENDED KIND OF -- KINDS OF GET A BASELINE
02:31:37PM OF WHAT THEIR CONDITIONS WERE.
02:31:38PM WE FOUND THAT SAND SEEPING THROUGH THE SEAWALL.
02:31:41PM AND WE FOUND THERE WERE VOIDS UNDERNEATH THE FOOL DECK.
02:31:46PM AND AT THAT POINT, FUNDING WAS REQUESTED TO MOVE FORWARD
02:31:49PM WITH THE DESIGN AND ENGINEERING OF A POOL DECK FIX.
02:31:53PM BEYOND THAT, OF COURSE, OTHER -- OTHER ISSUES THAT WERE
02:31:57PM KNOWN WERE KIND OF ITEMIZED AND BROUGHT FORWARD FOR THAT
02:32:00PM OTHER $1.6 MILLION WHICH WAS 2023 WAS THE APPROVAL ON THAT.
02:32:05PM SO THAT IS STILL THERE.
02:32:06PM WE HAVE EXPENDED, I THINK IT IS $140 OR 160 OF THAT INITIAL.
02:32:15PM AND WE STILL HAVE AN OPEN CONTRACT AND PURCHASE ORDER WITH
02:32:19PM THE ENGINEERING FIRM THAT WE ARE HAVING THEM UPDATE ALL THE
02:32:22PM INFORMATION TO GIVE US NOT ONLY MODERN-DAY KIND OF FIGURES
02:32:25PM FOR ESTIMATE ESTIMATED COSTS BUT TO BRING IN THE NEW
02:32:33PM CONDITIONS WITH THE RECENT GSPR TESTING THAT WE PERFORMED.
02:32:38PM WE DO HAVE A PATH THAT IS -- THAT IS BEARING FRUIT ON -- ON
02:32:43PM A WAY FORWARD ON THIS.
02:32:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: BUT NO NEW FUNDING NOR POOL -- IN THIS
02:32:47PM CALENDAR -- IN THIS FISCAL YEAR?
02:32:55PM >>TONY MULKEY: THAT'S CORRECT.
02:32:56PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS CONFUSED.
02:32:58PM THANK YOU.
02:32:58PM ARE WE WAITING FOR FIRE AND POLICE QUESTIONS UNTIL AFTER
02:33:03PM NUMBER TWO?
02:33:03PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE WILL HAVE THEM PRESENT.
02:33:05PM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:33:07PM I FAILED TO MENTION AT THE BEGINNING, WE HAVE TO CONCLUDE
02:33:09PM THE MEETING BY 5:00, BECAUSE THE ARC IS MEETING AT 5:30 IN
02:33:14PM THIS ROOM.
02:33:14PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
02:33:15PM >>LUIS VIERA: THAT IS WHAT WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT.
02:33:17PM BECAUSE WE HAVE ASSISTANT CHIEF KATE, CHIEF BERCAW AND
02:33:22PM CHIEF TRIPP.
02:33:23PM AND I KNOW THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A WHILE AND I DON'T
02:33:26PM KNOW HOW LONG THIS SECOND PART WILL TAKE.
02:33:27PM IF WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ESPECIALLY GIVEN WE HAD A
02:33:31PM BIG STORM AND I AM SURE THEY HAVE A LOT OF STUFF ON THEIR
02:33:33PM PLATE.
02:33:33PM THAT IS WHAT MY COMMENT WAS.
02:33:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY OBJECTION?
02:33:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME FINISH THIS ONE QUESTION.
02:33:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU WRAP IT UP AND WE WILL GO TO TWO.
02:33:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: A LOT OF WORK.
02:33:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
02:33:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM THE ONLY ONE THAT THE BEEPER HAVEN'T
02:33:52PM GONE OFF ON YET.
02:33:53PM NO SMILING.
02:33:54PM NO JOKES.
02:33:55PM BACK TO VIK.
02:33:57PM WHAT IS STREET SURFACING TO --
02:34:01PM >>VIK BHIDE: SORRY, REPEAT THE QUESTION.
02:34:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STREET RESURFACING TO.
02:34:06PM >>VIK BHIDE: TRAFFIC OPERATIONS.
02:34:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS THAT.
02:34:11PM >>VIK BHIDE: FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION OPERATIONS TO DO
02:34:14PM IN-HOUSE PAVING.
02:34:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN-HOUSE PAVING?
02:34:19PM >>VIK BHIDE: YES.
02:34:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MULTIMODAL SAFETY WALK.
02:34:25PM >>VIK BHIDE: RIVER WALK.
02:34:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DIDN'T SAY RIVERWALK.
02:34:31PM WE SPEAK ON CODE.
02:34:32PM NEXT THING, I WANT TO GO ON RECORD SAYING I FULLY SUPPORT
02:34:35PM THE REMODEL FOR T-MOB.
02:34:38PM THERE ARE SAFETY CONCERNS.
02:34:40PM I KNOW IN PUBLIC COMMENT -- WE GOT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR
02:34:43PM EMPLOYEES.
02:34:43PM REMODELING THE BREAK ROOM ARE KIND OF THINGS WE HAVE TO DO.
02:34:48PM NOT THAT MUCH MONEY.
02:34:50PM THINGS HAVE TO REFURBISH.
02:34:52PM SPEAKING OF WHICH, I SEE SOMEBODY SITTING IN THE BACK ROW.
02:34:55PM CITY COUNCIL, YES, YOU.
02:34:58PM HI, ADRI.
02:35:00PM SO WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS?
02:35:07PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:35:08PM ADRI COLINA, DIRECTOR OF LOGISTICS AND ASSET MANAGEMENT.
02:35:14PM SORRY, I WAS YELLING OVER THE WEEKEND.
02:35:16PM CHEERING MY BROTHER.
02:35:17PM CHEERING ON MY BROTHER ON IN A COMPETITION.
02:35:20PM SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE -- A LOT OF
02:35:25PM THE UPGRADES AND BREAK ROOM UPGRADES.
02:35:27PM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT AND THEN TALK ABOUT THIS.
02:35:29PM THE LOBBY UPGRADES, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO GET THE INCORRECT
02:35:34PM ASSUMPTION THAT WE ARE DOING THAT FOR AESTHETICS ONLY.
02:35:37PM WHEN THAT BUILDING WAS DESIGNED AND BUILT IN THE LATE '70s.
02:35:41PM SECURITY WASN'T A BIG THOUGHT.
02:35:43PM THAT HAS SINCE CHANGED.
02:35:45PM WHEN YOU WALK IN THAT BUILDING AT ANY TIME, THE OFFICER'S
02:35:47PM BACK IS TO SOMEONE.
02:35:49PM MONITORS ARE EXPOSED.
02:35:51PM THE THOUGHT TO REDESIGN THAT LOBBY IS FOR SAFETY.
02:35:54PM ANYBODY IN THAT BUILDING, AND THIS INCLUDES OUR CUSTOMERS.
02:35:57PM THE THIRD-FLOOR BREAK ROOM.
02:36:00PM I CAN TELL THAT YOU HAS NOT BEEN RENOVATED UNLIKE COUNCIL
02:36:03PM CHAMBERS WHICH I KNOW NEEDS WORK.
02:36:05PM I AM NOT SAYING IT DOESN'T.
02:36:06PM IT HAS BEEN PARENTED MORE RECENTLY AND UPGRADED MORE
02:36:09PM RECENTLY THAN THE BREAK ROOM ON THE THIRD FLOOR, AND THAT
02:36:13PM INCLUDES THE FLOORING.
02:36:14PM IT LOOKS BAD.
02:36:15PM THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF FOR THE WELLNESS OF
02:36:20PM EVERYONE.
02:36:20PM REGARDING THIS CHAMBER AND REGARDING THIS BUILDING, A LOT --
02:36:23PM WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A REDESIGN FOR YOU ALL.
02:36:26PM YOU ARE RIGHT.
02:36:26PM YOU DO NEED A BETTER FACILITY.
02:36:28PM AND SECURITY NEEDS TO BE GIVEN IN CONSIDERATION WITH THAT.
02:36:31PM I HAVE PRESENTED A PLAN TO MY ADMINISTRATOR, JEAN DUNCAN,
02:36:36PM CHIEF OF STAFF, AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE MAYOR.
02:36:39PM WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT TO YOU VERY SOON.
02:36:41PM AND THE FACT THAT THE CONTRACT PALED LAST WEEK WILL ALLOW US
02:36:45PM TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE WE HAVE FUNDING.
02:36:47PM AND WE WILL BE COMING TO YOU IN A VERY NEAR FUTURE.
02:36:51PM WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN.
02:36:54PM WE WERE SYSTEMATICALLY GOING THROUGH BOTH BUILDINGS TO SEE
02:36:59PM THE NEED.
02:36:59PM THERE ARE A LOT OF NEEDS.
02:37:01PM AND I AM NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU OFF.
02:37:03PM I DO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.
02:37:04PM AND I APPROVE ON AND TWEAKED ON IN MY LEADERSHIP SIDE.
02:37:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TALKING OF FY '24.
02:37:15PM >> WE ARE ON '25.
02:37:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: '24 FUNDING.
02:37:20PM >> '24 FUNDING AND MAY NEED SOME INTO '25 DEPENDING ON WHAT
02:37:25PM IT IS.
02:37:25PM WE DO HAVE SOME ALREADY IN THE BUDGET FOR '24 AND GOING INTO
02:37:30PM '25.
02:37:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN OUT THERE
02:37:33PM FORWARD THINKING ON THIS.
02:37:34PM AND I 100% SUPPORT WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO ACROSS THE
02:37:37PM ALLEY.
02:37:38PM AND SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
02:37:39PM AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE THINKING OF SECURITY IN EVERYTHING
02:37:42PM THAT WE DO.
02:37:42PM THANK YOU.
02:37:43PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:37:44PM I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
02:37:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT, WE WILL BRING UP NUMBER TWO.
02:37:47PM WHO WOULD LIKE TO KICK IT OFF, TPD OR TAMPA FIRE?
02:37:52PM ALL RIGHT DR. CHIEF.
02:37:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HE HAS DOCTORATE.
02:38:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DR. CHIEF.
02:38:06PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: LET'S NOT DEBATE THAT RIGHT NOW.
02:38:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: OKAY, SIR.
02:38:11PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
02:38:13PM >>LEE BERCAW: GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL, LEE BERCAW CHIEF OF
02:38:19PM POLICE AND DEPUTY CHIEF, CHIEF KAY.
02:38:23PM PROJECT LEAD ON HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT FOR EVIDENCE AND
02:38:27PM FORENSICS.
02:38:28PM BEFORE SHE BEGINS, THIS ISN'T A WARRANT, IT IS A NEED FOR US
02:38:32PM WITHOUT GROWING OUR EXISTING AREA.
02:38:34PM THE AREA WHERE WE HAD SOME OF THE EVIDENCE BEFORE HAS NOW
02:38:37PM BEEN TAKEN OVER BY SANITATION.
02:38:39PM WE ARE IN DIRE STRAITS FOR HAVING A PLACE FOR OUR EVIDENCE
02:38:42PM AND FOR OUR FORENSICS.
02:38:44PM AS DEPUTY CHIEF KATE GOES THROUGH THIS, HOPEFULLY YOU WILL
02:38:48PM SEE SOME OF THE PICTURES AND UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM TRYING TO
02:38:52PM CONVEY.
02:38:52PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL.
02:38:53PM I KNOW I SPOKE TO YOU BEFORE WHEN WE DO THE GREAT EIGHT
02:38:56PM PRESENTATIONS.
02:38:57PM BUT JUST AS A REMINDER, OUR EVIDENCE CURRENTLY IS KEPT AND
02:39:02PM OUR FORENSICS IN FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
02:39:05PM ONE THE TEMPORARY STORAGE 468 NORTH LOIS.
02:39:08PM THAT IS A 2,000-SQUARE-FOOT APPROXIMATELY THAT WE HAVE FOR
02:39:12PM OFFICE SPACE AND FOR LARGE BULK ITEMS.
02:39:15PM THIS WEEKEND, THE RAIN STORM AND TODAY IS A REMINDER THAT IS
02:39:20PM NOT AN IDEAL PLACE BECAUSE WE HAD TO MOVE OUR EVIDENCE UP ON
02:39:23PM TO PALETTES BECAUSE A LOT OF WATER INTRUSION THERE TO MAKE
02:39:27PM SURE THAT THE EVIDENCE DIDN'T DESTROYED.
02:39:29PM WE CAN ONLY PUT THINGS THAT WE ARE CONFIDANT WILL NOT NEED
02:39:33PM TO BE AIR-CONDITIONED OR ANYTHING THERE.
02:39:36PM WE HAVE THE THIRD FLOOR OF HEADQUARTERS, WHICH CURRENTLY IS
02:39:42PM 2600-SQUARE-FOOT ALONG WITH THE 7th FLOOR OF HEADQUARTERS
02:39:48PM COMBINED.
02:39:48PM THE STORAGE AT HEADQUARTERS FOR OUR EVIDENCE.
02:39:51PM AND FOR OUR FORENSICS WHICH IS ON THE FOURTH FLOOR, 12,000
02:39:55PM SQUARE FOOT.
02:39:55PM SO THESE ARE SOME PICTURES -- I HOPE I AM DOING THIS RIGHT.
02:40:00PM OKAY.
02:40:02PM RIGHT, SO GOING TO THE NEW IMPOUND LOT.
02:40:09PM THE PROPOSED SQUARE FOOTAGE WILL BE 44,100 SQUARE FOOT.
02:40:14PM THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT IN HEADQUARTERS AS YOU CAN SEE IS
02:40:17PM BASED ON THE BOXES.
02:40:19PM AND WE DON'T HAVE THE DESIRED SHELVING THAT WE NEED.
02:40:22PM WE CAN ONLY GO VERTICAL UP TO FOUR TO SIX FOOT, BASED ON THE
02:40:26PM WEIGHT OF THE BOXES.
02:40:27PM ALTHOUGH OUR EVIDENCE TECHNICIAN DO A GOOD JOB CATEGORIZING
02:40:32PM THEM AND PUTTING IN THERE, YOU CAN SEE WE ARE BURSTING AT
02:40:35PM THE SEAMS.
02:40:36PM WHEN WE GO TO THE NEW HOWARD AVENUE LOCATION 12 FOOT OF
02:40:41PM USABLE VERTICAL SPACE THAT BRINGS US TO 149 CUBIC -- 149,000
02:40:47PM CUBIC SQUARE FOOT.
02:40:48PM SO WE WILL BE ABLE TO BE THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
02:40:51PM THIS LOCATION WILL BE -- I WILL SHOW YOU A COUPLE MORE
02:40:55PM PICTURES.
02:40:56PM THIS IS OUR CURRENT FIREARM STORAGE.
02:40:58PM THIS IS WHAT THE DESIRED IS GOING TO WILL LOOK LIKE.
02:41:01PM THIS IS OUR FORENSICS INVESTIGATION UNIT.
02:41:08PM CURRENTLY, THIS -- THIS LATE NIGHT PROCESS SOMETHING AN OLD
02:41:15PM FISH TANK THAT OUR VERY GOOD EVIDENCE TECHNICIANS FASHIONED
02:41:20PM TO COMPLETE WHAT WE NEEDED TO BE DONE.
02:41:22PM THE ORLANDO POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BROUGHT THE DESIRED
02:41:25PM EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO GO TO, BUT IF YOU WERE TO PICK UP
02:41:28PM PRINTS ON AN ITEM THAT COULD NOT BE DUSTED, AND YOU HAVE TO
02:41:32PM USE FOR LAYMAN'S TERMS LIKE SUPER GLUE TO GET THE FUMES, WE
02:41:37PM PUT IT INSIDE OF THAT, CLOSE IT UP.
02:41:39PM AND THEN IT WILL PRESENT THE PRINTS.
02:41:41PM WE NEVER HAD THAT TECHNOLOGY.
02:41:44PM WE ARE A LARGE AGENCY.
02:41:45PM WE SHOULD HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY.
02:41:46PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO GO TO.
02:41:48PM ALSO, WE ARE LOOKING TO ENHANCING OUR EVIDENCE -- WHERE THE
02:41:53PM FORENSICS CAN STORE.
02:41:56PM AND PACKAGE THE ITEMS.
02:41:58PM WE ARE LOOKING TO NOT CROSS-CONTAMINATE.
02:42:01PM OUR DRYING ROOMS ARE OUTDATED.
02:42:04PM WE WANT TO GO TO A BETTER PACKAGING PLACE.
02:42:07PM A GOOD THING OF GOING TO THE HOWARD AVENUE, FORENSICS IN
02:42:10PM EVIDENCE -- BECAUSE THEY REALLY WORK HAND IN HAND.
02:42:13PM THEY CAN COLLECT THEIR ITEMS AND PROCESS THEM AND PUT THEM
02:42:16PM INTO EVIDENCE RIGHT AWAY, NOT TEMPORARY STORAGE.
02:42:19PM ALSO THE PUBLIC ONLY HAS TO GO TO ONE PLACE.
02:42:22PM IF YOU HAVE HIGH VALUE ITEMS, THEY ARE PROBABLY AT
02:42:25PM HEADQUARTERS.
02:42:25PM IF YOU HAVE A CAR OR SOME OTHER BULK ITEMS, THEY WILL GO AT
02:42:29PM THE IMPOUND LOT.
02:42:31PM THIS WILL BE A LOT EASIER FOR THEM TO GO TO AND ALSO A
02:42:34PM REDUCTION IN MAN POWER BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO STAFF
02:42:38PM OUR CITY EMPLOYEES AT THE IMPOUND LOT ON THE THIRD FLOOR,
02:42:43PM SEVENTH FLOOR AND FOURTH FLOOR AND UNDER ONE ROOF AND ABLE
02:42:46PM TO WORK TOGETHER.
02:42:46PM SO I HAVE SOME OTHER SKETCHES, BUT BECAUSE SOME OF IT IS --
02:43:02PM WILL DENOTE WHERE OUR NARCOTICS AND FIREARMS GO.
02:43:06PM I WON'T PUT THEM ON THE ELMO.
02:43:08PM 2600 SQUARE FOOT FOR OUR NARCOTICS AND 19,000 CUBIC FOOT FOR
02:43:13PM OUR FIREARMS VAULT.
02:43:16PM WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT AND IT AS NECESSITY FOR US.
02:43:19PM THANK YOU.
02:43:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE -- I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE
02:43:23PM PRESENTATION IS COMPLETED BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILMEMBERS.
02:43:25PM ALL RIGHT.
02:43:26PM ANYTHING ELSE, MA'AM?
02:43:28PM >> NO, I THINK THAT IS IT.
02:43:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
02:43:33PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: CHIEF KATE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
02:43:35PM PRESENTATION AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND I AM SURE YOU
02:43:37PM TALKED TO THE OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS IN THE PAST.
02:43:39PM I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RENT YOU ARE PAYING SOMEWHERE ELSE,
02:43:42PM BUT ALL OF THESE THINGS NEED TO BE FIGURED OUT.
02:43:44PM I AM NOT --CSI, I WALKED IT ON TV.
02:43:49PM ALL THE MODERN STUFF, THEY HAVE ALL THAT.
02:43:51PM SOMETIMES IN TODAY'S SATURDAY, WHEN YOU GO TO COURT, SOME
02:43:56PM INDIVIDUAL IS GOING TO QUESTION WHERE ALL THESE THINGS ARE
02:43:58PM AT AND WHAT HAPPENS AND HOW YOU TREAT THEM.
02:44:00PM AND IS IT HUMIDITY -- DOES IT CHANGE THE VALUE OF SOMETHING.
02:44:05PM AND MANY YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS WORKING FOR THE STATE AS
02:44:10PM STEWARD JUDGING HORSE RACING.
02:44:13PM ALL THE EVIDENCE WE HAD, EVERY HORSE THAT RUNS, THAT
02:44:15PM FINISHES FIRST AND SECOND, THE BLOOD AND URINE IS SENT TO
02:44:20PM GAINESVILLE AND THEY GAVE ALWAYS TOUR OF ALL THAT AND AMAZE
02:44:23PM WHAT THEY CAN FIND.
02:44:24PM I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY, BUT
02:44:26PM THE EVIDENCE THAT YOU KEEP AND FIND IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT
02:44:29PM AS YOU WELL KNOW, ALL OF US KNOW.
02:44:30PM AND MAKING SURE THAT THE PERSON IS ISN'T OR GUILTY OF A
02:44:34PM CRIME.
02:44:34PM YOU CAN FIND BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
02:44:36PM AND I WANT TO THANK YOU AND THE CHIEF AND THE POLICE
02:44:40PM DEPARTMENT, WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND ALL YOUR STAFF AND ALL
02:44:42PM THE MEMBERS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
02:44:44PM YOU GO TO HAVE IT IN ORDER TO PRODUCE WHAT YOU NEED.
02:44:48PM >> THANK YOU, SIR.
02:44:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, CARLSON, HURTAK.
02:44:52PM YOUR MICS ON.
02:44:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I NEED CHIEF BENNETT UP HERE.
02:44:56PM BECAUSE I HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM.
02:44:58PM JOHN.
02:44:59PM WHAT IS -- I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD OPPOSE THIS BECAUSE IT IS
02:45:02PM CLEARLY SOMETHING THAT WE NEED.
02:45:03PM WE HAVE FALLEN WOEFULLY BEHIND IN NOT JUST THE PHYSICAL
02:45:08PM QUARTERS BUT THE TECHNOLOGY.
02:45:10PM CLEARLY AN ABSOLUTE NEED.
02:45:11PM MY QUESTION IS -- REFERENCES OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT
02:45:15PM THIS.
02:45:15PM ARE WE JUST NOT THINKING BIG ENOUGH BECAUSE WE HAVE AN
02:45:20PM ANTIQUATED BUILDING NEXT DOOR AND A LOT OF ACREAGE ON HOWARD
02:45:23PM AVENUE, WHY WE ARE NOT ACCOMMODATING EVERYTHING UP THIS.
02:45:27PM AS WE BUILD THIS OUT AND BOND IT ANYWAY, WE KNOW WE HAVE
02:45:31PM THAT NEED AND FAR LAY THE VALUE OF THIS PROPERTY AT SOME
02:45:34PM POINT AS WELL.
02:45:35PM ARE WE -- ARE WE THINKING TOO SMALL?
02:45:38PM SHOULD WE BE INCORPORATING THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS AND WHAT
02:45:42PM YOU SAY ON THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY.
02:45:46PM THAT -- I WOULD JUST LIKE THAT QUESTION ANSWERED.
02:45:49PM >> I THINK IT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
02:45:50PM AND I WENT BACK TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
02:45:52PM WE TALKED TO JEAN DUNCAN'S OFFICE AND THOUGHT MAYBE WE COULD
02:45:57PM PUT A THUMBNAIL AROUND THAT AND IF PRICE IS EXORBITANT.
02:46:03PM IT IS TO, FIRST OF ALL, THE TIMING FOR THIS PROJECT IS --
02:46:08PM EVIDENCE-GRADE ACCREDITATION STANDARD FACILITY IS CRITICAL
02:46:12PM AS YOU HEARD THE CHIEF SAID.
02:46:14PM SECONDLY TO BOOST THAT -- OF COURSE, HAVING CONTROL OF THE
02:46:18PM DIRT IS GREAT.
02:46:18PM I THINK THAT IS AN EXCELLENT POINT.
02:46:21PM BUT THE PRICE DIFFERENCE.
02:46:22PM AND I THINK THE ASSESSMENT OF TPD, THE RECONFIGURATION, THE
02:46:28PM SIZING, EFFICIENCY WILL TAKE SOME TIME.
02:46:31PM I AM NOT SURE -- BE FROM A SCALE POINT OF VIEW, IF WE ARE
02:46:34PM READY TO DO THAT.
02:46:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I GRASP THAT CON ACCEPT THAT WE ARE NOT
02:46:39PM READY BECAUSE WE DON'T REALIZE THE SCALE OF WHO WITHER
02:46:42PM TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE AND FACILITIES.
02:46:43PM AS WE ARE BUILDING THIS OUT ON HOWARD AVENUE, ARE WE CLOSING
02:46:48PM DOORS ON -- OBVIOUSLY I HAVEN'T BEEN TO THIS PIECE OF
02:46:52PM PROPERTY, FOOTPRINT THAT WE ARE UTILIZING.
02:46:56PM IS THAT OPTION BE CLOSED TO US IF WE MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.
02:47:01PM >>JOHN BENNETT: I WILL LET JEAN DUNCAN WITH MORE EXPERTISE
02:47:05PM WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
02:47:05PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: JEAN DUNCAN WITH INSTRUCTIONAL MOBILITY.
02:47:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: EVERYBODY'S VOICE.
02:47:12PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: JUST SOME QUICK INFO ON THE PROPERTY IN
02:47:15PM QUESTION ON HOWARD AVENUE.
02:47:16PM THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS A L-SHAPED PROPERTY.
02:47:19PM THERE ARE 385 TREE ON THE PROPERTY.
02:47:24PM MANY ARE GRAND OAKS.
02:47:26PM T PD IS DOING THEIR ANNEX A MUCH CLEARER SPOT THAN IN THAT
02:47:32PM AREA.
02:47:32PM THE OTHER THING IS, IT WILL HAVE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO THE
02:47:37PM PURPOSE OF THE ANNEX ON HOWARD AVENUE.
02:47:39PM THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE
02:47:42PM WHICH WILL REALLY BE A NECESSITY TO HAVE A BIGGER FACILITY
02:47:45PM AT THAT LOCATION.
02:47:46PM IT DOESN'T EVEN SEEM FEASIBLE AT THIS POINT THROUGH QUICK
02:47:51PM CURSORY PLANNING THAT ACCESS CAN BE OBTAINED TO HILLSBOROUGH
02:47:55PM AVENUE.
02:47:55PM EXCUSE ME.
02:47:55PM QUICK AND EASY DEAL BREAKERS ON THE PROPERTY THAT WERE
02:48:00PM IDENTIFIED THAT WILL NOT WORK.
02:48:03PM AS CHIEF BERCAW SAID.
02:48:07PM A CRITICAL NEED.
02:48:08PM THIS PROPERTY WAS AVAILABLE FOR THIS NEED AND THE DECISION
02:48:11PM TO MOVE ON THE FACILITY AND TO GET THE ANNEX PUT TOGETHER SO
02:48:17PM WE DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH THE EVIDENCE AND FORENSICS.
02:48:21PM >>LEE BERCAW: A GREAT POINT AND AGREE WITH YOU 100%.
02:48:25PM LOOKING INTO IT DIDN'T SEEM FEASIBLE FOR US.
02:48:28PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE NO PROBLEM WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO
02:48:31PM ACCOMPLISH ON THE PROPERTY.
02:48:31PM I WAS AFRAID THAT WE MISSED AN OPPORTUNITY RELOCATE.
02:48:35PM AND I DIDN'T WANT TO MISS THAT IF WE COULD DIG DEEP --
02:48:39PM >>LEE BERCAW: IF THERE WAS A WAY TO MAKE IT HAPPEN, WE WOULD
02:48:41PM ALL BE SUPPORTING IT RIGHT NOW.
02:48:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD, THANK YOU.
02:48:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WILL GO TO COUNCILMAN VIERA AND THEN
02:48:48PM CARLSON AND HURTAK.
02:48:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: NO, MY REMARKS ARE VERY LIMITED, MR. CHAIR.
02:48:52PM I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I AM GLAD TO SUPPORT THIS.
02:48:55PM AND BY WHATEVER MEANS WE HAVE TO.
02:48:57PM FOR ME, I THINK COUNCILMAN MIRANDA SAID IT BEST.
02:48:59PM IN IS A NEED, NOT AT THAT WANT, AND WE HAVE TO GET IT FUNDED
02:49:03PM BY ANY MEANS WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US.
02:49:05PM SO COUNT ME ON BOARD FOR IT.
02:49:07PM I THINK THIS IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.
02:49:10PM AND, YEAH, I MEAN, FOR ME, AGAIN, I CONTINUE TO SAY THAT I
02:49:14PM THINK FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRE NEEDS AND WE CONTINUE TO LOOK
02:49:18PM AT REVENUE ENHANCEMENTS THAT ARE DIRECTLY TIED TO POLICE AND
02:49:23PM FIRE, WHATEVER THAT MAY BE.
02:49:25PM I STILL GO BACK TO IT.
02:49:26PM I DON'T MEAN TO RELITIGATE LAST YEAR, BUT THE WIDE VARIETY
02:49:36PM OF PROJECTS FOR A TAX INCREASE THE PUBLIC WASN'T GOOD WITH,
02:49:41PM BUT A NARROW TAX INCREASE OF 2 TO 3 A MONTH FOR HOUSEHOLDS
02:49:48PM FOR YOU GUYS AND FIRE FIGHTERS.
02:49:50PM THERE IS AN APPETITE FOR THAT.
02:49:52PM THAT IS NOT ON THE TABLE THIS YEAR, BUT PROBABLY THE LAST
02:49:56PM TIME I TALK ABOUT IT.
02:49:57PM I GLADLY SUPPORT THIS.
02:49:59PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND HURTAK.
02:50:01PM >>BILL CARLSON: I AM A COMMUNICATION GUY AND I THINK OF
02:50:04PM COMMUNICATING WITH THE PUBLIC.
02:50:05PM I RECOMMEND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF THE PRICE TAG ON THIS,
02:50:08PM THAT YOU INCLUDE COMMUNICATION.
02:50:10PM WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC.
02:50:11PM THAT IT IS EASY TO SEE THE ORGANIZATIONAL -- I AM -- I AM
02:50:16PM KIND OF OCD OF ORGANIZATION.
02:50:19PM I LIKE THE NEW SYSTEM BETTER.
02:50:21PM BUT THE -- THE OTHER THING, THE BENEFITS TO THE PUBLIC IS
02:50:26PM THAT EVIDENCE IS USED TO PROVE INNOCENCE OR GUILT.
02:50:31PM AND WE KNOW SOME COLD CASES HAVE COME BACK 20, 30, 40 YEARS
02:50:36PM LATER, AND THIS EVIDENCE IS CRITICAL.
02:50:39PM IF THE EVIDENCE HAPPENED TO BE ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF A
02:50:42PM PLACE THAT FLOODED, WE DON'T HAVE IT ANYMORE.
02:50:45PM I THINK THE BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC IS THAT JUSTICE IS SERVED
02:50:48PM IN FINDING INNOCENCE OR GUILT.
02:50:51PM NOT THE EXACT WORD.
02:50:53PM SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
02:50:54PM THE OTHER THINGS ALONG THE LINES OF QUESTIONS.
02:50:57PM DR. CHIEF.
02:50:58PM CAN YOU TELL US JUST WHAT -- WHAT THE STATUS IS OF THE
02:51:02PM HEADQUARTERS.
02:51:03PM YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE -- ONCE THIS IS DONE AND YOU MOVE.
02:51:06PM YOU WILL HAVE TWO EXTRA FLOORS.
02:51:08PM IS THE BLUE BUILDING STILL NEEDING SUCH REPAIR THAT YOU ARE
02:51:12PM GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE AND ANY GUESS TO A TIMELINE AND HOW
02:51:17PM MUCH.
02:51:17PM >>LEE BERCAW: DEFINITELY IN OUR LONG FIVE-YEAR PLAN TO HAVE
02:51:21PM A NEW HEADQUARTERS.
02:51:22PM BUT RIGHT NOW NOT THE MONEY AVAILABLE TO DO THAT PROJECT,
02:51:25PM OTHERWISE WE WOULD FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT OTHER PIECE OF
02:51:28PM PROPERTY WORK.
02:51:29PM THERE IS JUST -- SOMETHING THAT WE SEE DOWN THE ROAD WITHIN
02:51:32PM A FIVE-YEAR PROJECT.
02:51:34PM IF WE FOUND A PIECE OF LAND THAT WILL WORK RIGHT NOW, WE
02:51:37PM WOULD PROBABLY BE BACK HERE NEXT YEAR TALKING OF THAT.
02:51:41PM BUT WE DON'T HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY AT THIS POINT.
02:51:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: WITHOUT GIVING AWAY ANYTHING CONFIDENTIAL.
02:51:47PM WHAT IS THE CRITERIA.
02:51:48PM DOES IT MATTER WHAT PART OF TOWN.
02:51:51PM % BERCAW OBVIOUSLY WE WANT IT ACCESSIBLE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
02:51:54PM OTHER THAN THAT, NO, NOT REALLY.
02:51:57PM IN THE CITY, ACCESSIBLE TO THE COMMUNITY, WITHIN AN AREA
02:52:00PM THAT WE CAN IN AND OUT AN EN CONGRESS AND EACH CONGRESS AS
02:52:05PM WELL.
02:52:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY, THANK YOU.
02:52:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:52:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE NO DOUBT THIS IS A NEED.
02:52:10PM I HAVE NO DOUBT.
02:52:11PM BUT WHAT CONCERNS ME LOOKING AT THIS -- AND THIS IS NOT
02:52:16PM TOWARD YOU TFR, BUT MY CONCERN IS, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO
02:52:22PM FIX THINGS FOR ACTUAL HUMAN BEINGS AND FIRE RESCUE FOR YEARS
02:52:26PM NOW.
02:52:26PM AND WE ARE -- WE ARE KICKING IT DOWN -- THE CAN -- WE ARE
02:52:30PM KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AGAIN.
02:52:33PM I AM GOING TO ASK CHIEF TRIPP A FEW QUESTIONS, IF YOU DON'T
02:52:37PM MIND.
02:52:38PM I AM VERY UPSET WITH THE FACT THAT THE MAINTENANCE AND
02:52:41PM SUPPLY SHOP HAS BEEN KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FOR NEXT YEAR.
02:52:44PM THAT IMPLY NOT ACCEPTABLE.
02:52:47PM WE CAN NOT GO ON WITH THIS.
02:52:48PM WE MUST FIND -- AND FIND SPACE AND START THE BUILDING THIS
02:52:52PM COMING YEAR.
02:52:53PM LIKE, THERE IS -- WE FOUGHT FOR IT LAST YEAR, AND IT JUST
02:53:00PM DIDN'T HAPPEN.
02:53:01PM IT US FROM RATES ME THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS,
02:53:06PM WHICH IS A NEEDED PROJECT.
02:53:06PM BUT FIRE -- IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A PRIORITY FOR THE
02:53:11PM ADMINISTRATION AND THAT IS FRUSTRATING.
02:53:12PM I WAS HOPING THAT CHIEF TRIPP COULD COME UP AND TALK TO US
02:53:16PM AS TO WHY TFR, WHY THE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY SHOP IS NO
02:53:21PM LONGER ON THE BUDGET FOR THIS FY '25 AND MOVED TO FY '26.
02:53:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE IS GOING TO PRESENT NEXT.
02:53:29PM ANYTHING TO ADD TO TPD --
02:53:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING OF FIRE RESCUE.
02:53:37PM I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS.
02:53:38PM BUT MY CONCERN IS, I WOULD REALLY RATHER WAIT A YEAR AND PUT
02:53:43PM MONEY TOWARD FIRE.
02:53:44PM BECAUSE THAT IS A NEED.
02:53:45PM AND IT IS PEOPLE.
02:53:47PM UP UNDERSTAND THE THING ABOUT EVIDENCE, BUT PEOPLE.
02:53:49PM OUR -- -- OUR FIRE FIGHTERS ARE IN SUCH DANGEROUS CONDITIONS
02:53:53PM RIGHT NOW IN THE FIRE STATIONS THAT THEY ARE IN.
02:53:55PM IF WE DON'T START MOVING THEM AND MAKING IT BETTER FOR THEM,
02:54:00PM TO ME, THAT'S -- I HAVE A HARD TIME TREATING OUR PERSONNEL
02:54:04PM THAT WAY.
02:54:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
02:54:06PM TO WRAP IT UP, I TOOK A TOUR OF THE -- OF THE EVIDENCE ROOM,
02:54:12PM AND -- THE BUILDING IS 1962.
02:54:13PM SO YOU HAVE TO WORK IN THAT SPACE.
02:54:16PM AND I CAN SEE -- I CAN SEE THE NEED.
02:54:19PM WHAT BOTHERED ME THE MOST WAS THE FACT THAT -- LEARNING THE
02:54:23PM FACT THERE IS, LIKE, EVIDENCE VANS.
02:54:25PM AND THE EVIDENCE IS CARTED UP THE ELEVATOR.
02:54:28PM AND THEN TAKEN TO THE SPACE.
02:54:30PM HOW MUCH CONTAMINATION IS THERE?
02:54:32PM HOW MANY HANDS ARE TOUCHING THAT BEFORE YOU GET IT TO A SAFE
02:54:36PM AND SECURE LOCATION WHEN EVIDENCE CAN BE, YOU KNOW, MAKE OR
02:54:41PM BREAK, GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY, BREAK A CASE.
02:54:45PM I SEE IT.
02:54:45PM I LOVE THAT BUILDING, BUT THE BUILDING WAS ORIGINALLY A BANK
02:54:49PM AND OFFICE SPACE.
02:54:52PM TPD AND TAMPA HAS GROWN.
02:54:55PM DEFINITELY A NEED AND WITH THAT, WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH THE
02:54:58PM CHANGES IN -- IN SOCIETY.
02:55:01PM CHANGES IN TECHNOLOGY AND WHAT NOT.
02:55:02PM SO I TOTALLY GET IT.
02:55:04PM I UNDERSTAND IT IS A HUGE AMOUNT, BUT IT IS A NEED.
02:55:08PM SO I WAS GOING TO WRAP IT UP, BUT COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
02:55:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THEN I HAVE TO CHIME IN.
02:55:13PM OFF OF COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
02:55:16PM MY UNDERSTANDING, DENNIS OR -- SO THE -- THE TPD HOWARD
02:55:22PM AVENUE ANNEX BUILDING WE ARE PLANNING ON BONDING, CORRECT?
02:55:26PM >>JOHN BENNETT: YES, SIR.
02:55:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT PAY GO.
02:55:29PM >>JOHN BENNETT: BONDING.
02:55:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT IS NOT IF THIS OR THAT.
02:55:34PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FIRE STATIONS ARE NOT PAY GO EITHER.
02:55:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT EXCLUSIVE.
02:55:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVEN'T BEEN
02:55:42PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IS A NEED.
02:55:42PM WE CAN SET THAT ASIDE AND SAY THIS IS A NEED AND THIS IS A
02:55:45PM NEED AND HAVE THAT AS A SEPARATE CONVERSATION.
02:55:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE FIRE STATIONS SINCE THE 1950 ARE IN NEED
02:55:53PM AS WELL.
02:55:53PM AND THAT IS MY POINT
02:55:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD CONVERSATION.
02:55:56PM I DON'T HAVE TO SAY WE ARE NOT GOING TO DO THIS BUT THAT.
02:55:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE IS THE THING.
02:56:01PM THAT WILL HAPPEN AND THE FIRE STATIONS AREN'T.
02:56:04PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THEY ARE COMPARABLE.
02:56:07PM ONE IS NOT DEPENDENT UPON THE OTHER.
02:56:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO, BUT IT IS ALWAYS THE WAY IT WORKS.
02:56:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
02:56:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CHIEF TRIPP, YOU ARE NEXT.
02:56:18PM CHIEF TRIPP.
02:56:20PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SHE'S COMING.
02:56:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. CHAIR.
02:56:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
02:56:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: JUST FOR POLICE.
02:56:25PM CAN WE LET CHIEF AND ASSISTANT CHIEF GO RIGHT NOW OR DO WE
02:56:31PM NEED THEM ANY FURTHER?
02:56:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAYBE THEY ENJOY THEIR TIME WITH US.
02:56:34PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I THOUGHT YOU LIKE TO HANG OUT WITH US.
02:56:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: IF UNITED STATES TO GO --
02:56:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: GIRL POWER.
02:56:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM.
02:56:44PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: GOOD AFTERNOON, BARBARA TRIPP, FEAR CHIEF,
02:56:49PM TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
02:56:50PM I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START.
02:56:51PM OF COURSE THE ITEMS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET, IT IS DEFINITELY
02:56:54PM STUFF THAT WE NEED.
02:56:55PM WE TALK MUCH THE FIRE STATIONS, THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF MY
02:57:01PM CHALLENGES SENSE I HAVE BEEN IN THIS POSITION TO TALK ABOUT
02:57:02PM THE NEED FOR THE FIRE STATIONS.
02:57:04PM IF WE TALK OF THE AGES OF THE FIRE STATIONS, I HAVE SOME
02:57:08PM STATIONS THAT SINCE THE 1914, 1921, MAJORITY 1958.
02:57:13PM I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR PROPERTY FOR THE FLEET MAINTENANCE
02:57:16PM AS WELL, WHICH WAS BUILT IN 1958.
02:57:18PM IF WE THINK ABOUT WHEN THE FIRE SERVICE FIRST STARTED IN
02:57:22PM 1895, IT WAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
02:57:24PM SO THEY HAVE EMS WITH IT.
02:57:26PM AND IN THE 70s IS WHEN EMS STARTED MERGING AND WITH THE FIRE
02:57:30PM SERVICE.
02:57:30PM AND, OF COURSE, THEY DID NOT EXTEND THOSE STATIONS TO
02:57:33PM ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF THE TRANSPORT UNITS.
02:57:36PM SO AT THE SAME TIME, THE WAIT I FEEL, IS THAT WE ARE
02:57:41PM OVERCROWDED OF STATION 9.
02:57:42PM I HAVE THREE UNITS OPERATING OUT OF THAT STATION IN WHICH IT
02:57:46PM WAS REALLY MANNED FOR ONE APPARATUS.
02:57:48PM WE ACTUALLY HAD TO HAVE FACILITY COME OUT AND EXTEND THE
02:57:53PM STATION A LITTLE BIT MORE ONCE WE PUT A TRUCK IN THAT
02:57:56PM FACILITY.
02:57:57PM SO THE MAJORITY OF THE STATIONS ARE 1958.
02:58:04PM AND I HAVE BEEN LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET THEM REMODELLED
02:58:08PM AND UPGRADED.
02:58:09PM PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE STORM WE HAD, KNOCK ON WOOD, THAT IT
02:58:13PM WAS MORE OF A RAIN CATEGORY 1 HURRICANE THAT ACTUALLY KIND
02:58:16PM OF HIT THE BEND OF FLORIDA.
02:58:21PM BUT USUALLY WHEN WE START PREPARING FOR A NATURAL DISASTER,
02:58:25PM WE HAVE TO BRING PERSONNEL BACK IN TO STAGE AT THE FIRE
02:58:29PM STATION.
02:58:29PM AND RIGHT NOW THE FIRE STATION DO NOT ACCOMMODATE BESIDES
02:58:33PM ONE TYPICAL BASIC SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
02:58:35PM AND THEY CAN'T EVEN HOLD THE ENTIRE SHIFT.
02:58:38PM IF WE HAVE TO BRING IN MULTIPLE SHIFTS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
02:58:42PM UP TO 25 TO 30 PEOPLE AT ONE STATION THAT PRETTY MUCH
02:58:45PM ACCOMMODATES SIX TO EIGHT PEOPLE.
02:58:47PM SO JUST LOOKING TO TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING TO
02:58:51PM CONTINUE WITH REMODELING THE STATIONS, UPDATING THE STATIONS
02:58:55PM AND PREPARING THEM FOR THE FUTURE OF THE FIRE FIGHTERS.
02:59:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ARE YOU DONE?
02:59:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, VIERA -- HENDERSON
02:59:09PM LOOKING AT THE LIGHTS.
02:59:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAD MY LIGHT ON FIRST BUT -- I WANT TO
02:59:19PM KNOW.
02:59:19PM IN LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WE HAD PUT -- WE HAD PLANNED THE ONE
02:59:24PM POINT -- TALKING OF FIRE STATION '24.
02:59:27PM IT SHOWS IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, $1.1 MILLION FROM THIS.
02:59:31PM MY UNDERSTANDING FROM OUR ENTIRE DEBATE LAST YEAR, THAT LAND
02:59:35PM HAS ALREADY BEEN CHOSEN.
02:59:36PM THE DESIGNS ARE ALREADY BEING DONE.
02:59:39PM WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE $20 MILLION FOR BUILDING THAT STATION
02:59:42PM IN THIS FISCAL YEAR?
02:59:46PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I AM BAD WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET, BUT I KNOW
02:59:50PM WE ARE USING CITY PROPERTY PARK CURRENTLY.
02:59:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
02:59:53PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: OF COURSE WE HAD IT SURVEYED AND DESIGNED
03:00:02PM FOR IT.
03:00:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAYBE MISS DUNCAN IS SAYING WHY WE ARE NOT
03:00:05PM PAYING FOR THIS PROJECT SINCE IT NEEDS TO BE BUILT.
03:00:08PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: JEAN DUNCAN FOR MOBILITY AND MR. MUDDERBACK
03:00:13PM WHICH IS OUR FIRE DIRECTOR.
03:00:14PM IT IS GOING INTO SELECTION TOMORROW.
03:00:17PM >> IN THE MORNING.
03:00:17PM >> THE REASON THE MONEY IS HOW WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
03:00:21PM SELECT THE CONTRACTOR AND GET THE NOTICE TO PROCEED BEFORE
03:00:27PM YOU.
03:00:27PM IT WILL BE PAST OCTOBER 1st.
03:00:29PM JUST SLIGHTLY PAST.
03:00:33PM WE PUT THE MONEY IN '25.
03:00:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE MONEY IS IN '26 ACCORDING TO THIS.
03:00:38PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOT FOR '24.
03:00:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: FIRE STATION 24, BETWEEN '26 AND '27.
03:00:47PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: MY APOLOGIES.
03:00:50PM >> THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR THE SELECTION PROCESS GOING INTO
03:00:55PM DESIGN AND PERMITTING.
03:00:56PM THAT PROCESS -- WE WILL NOT BE GETTING INTO THE GMP AND
03:01:00PM CONSTRUCTION AT BEST OR 2026.
03:01:03PM THAT WHOLE PROCESS -- YOU KNOW THE CCNA ADVERTISEMENT AND
03:01:09PM SELECTION PROCESS AT BEST IS A FOUR TO SIX-MONTH DEAL.
03:01:12PM AND THEN ONCE -- AFTER WE SELECT A FIRM LATER THIS WEEK.
03:01:17PM POTENTIALLY THIS WEEK, THE MAYOR WILL SELECT A FIRM, AT
03:01:20PM MINIMUM, 12 TO 18 MONTHS TO GO THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS, DESIGN,
03:01:25PM AND PERMITTING BEFORE SHOVEL CAN BE PUT IN THE GROUND.
03:01:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO THEN -- THIS -- THIS IS ME MADE EVEN MORE
03:01:32PM CONFUSE THEN.
03:01:34PM BECAUSE WE JUST STARTED FINISHING TALKING OF THE POLICE
03:01:38PM FORENSICS BUILDING WHICH IS ALL IMPORTANT.
03:01:40PM WHICH IS THIS WILL BE BELT THIS YEAR.
03:01:43PM ALL THE MONEY IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, $45 MILLION.
03:01:46PM >> WE ARE NEARING 100% COMPLETION OF THAT.
03:01:49PM THAT RFQ CAME OUT TWO YEARS AGO.
03:01:51PM IT WAS SELECTED AND WE ARE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS.
03:01:54PM WE ARE ACTUALLY FINISHING UP BIDDABLE DOCUMENTS RIGHT NOW TO
03:01:58PM PUT THAT OUT FOR -- FOR BEDFORD TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.
03:02:02PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WASN'T IN OUR CIP DISCUSSION LAST YEAR?
03:02:07PM >> THE DESIGN?
03:02:08PM THE DESIGN MONEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE --
03:02:10PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
03:02:10PM WE HEARD ABOUT IT FROM ONE OF THE FIRST TIMES ABOUT THREE OR
03:02:14PM FOUR MONTHS AGO.
03:02:15PM THAT IS WHEN THEY CAME TO US TO SHOW US WHAT THIS PROJECT
03:02:20PM WAS.
03:02:21PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: IT HAS BEEN IN OUR GRADE A REPORT.
03:02:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE LAST GRADE A REPORT WAS THE ONLY ONE.
03:02:28PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHEN IT WAS FIRST VERBALLY
03:02:31PM COMMUNICATED TO YOU, BUT IT HAS BEEN IN THE BUDGET, AS
03:02:35PM RICHARD SAID.
03:02:35PM THAT DESIGN PROJECT START TWO YEARS AGO.
03:02:38PM THAT PROCESS IS STARTING ON FIRE STATION 24 TOMORROW.
03:02:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
03:02:44PM CAN YOU TALK OF THE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY.
03:02:46PM BASICALLY THE STAPLE THING.
03:02:49PM $12.6 MILLION FOR FINDING LAND.
03:02:52PM HOW ARE WE ON THAT?
03:02:54PM MAYBE THAT IS A QUESTION FOR --
03:02:57PM >>JEAN DUNCAN: CHIEF TRIPP CAN TALK TO THAT.
03:02:59PM WORKING WITH THE REAL ESTATE.
03:03:02PM >> I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE REAL ESTATE DEPARTMENT.
03:03:04PM THEY HAVEN'T FOUND ANYTHING YET.
03:03:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: $1.2 ADDITIONAL MILLION FOR -- FOR THIS
03:03:12PM FISCAL YEAR TOWARD THAT STILL?
03:03:16PM >> AGAIN, RICHARD MUDDERBACK, CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION.
03:03:20PM WE ARE WORKING ON RFQ FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS FOR THE
03:03:24PM ASSESSMENT TO GET IT RUN CONCURRENTLY TRYING TO FIND REAL
03:03:28PM ESTATE TO GET A BETTER ASSESSMENT OF THE NEED, SIZE AND
03:03:32PM SCOPE OF WHAT THAT PROJECT MAY LOOK LIKE.
03:03:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:03:36PM GLAD WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE THAT STUFF FORWARD.
03:03:38PM UNFORTUNATELY WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH 9, 10 OR EVEN 6
03:03:42PM REALLY UNTIL WE GOT ALL THAT STUFF MOVED.
03:03:44PM I AM JUST NOT QUITE SURE HOW WE CAN ASK OR HOW WE CAN
03:03:49PM PRIORITIZE FINDING THAT -- THAT LAND.
03:03:52PM >> ADRI COLINA, ASSET MANAGEMENT.
03:04:02PM I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH CHIEF TRIPP FOR YEARS ON THIS.
03:04:05PM I WILL TELL YOU IT IS NOT AS EASY AS ONE WILL THINK.
03:04:08PM WE NEED AT LEAST SEVEN ACRES.
03:04:10PM WE IDENTIFIED IN THE CITY LIMIT FINDING SEVEN CONTIGUOUS
03:04:15PM ACRE IS NOT EASY.
03:04:16PM WHEN WE FIND SOMETHING, WE LOOK AT IT, AND TURNING RADIUS IS
03:04:22PM NOT FOR THE EQUIPMENT.
03:04:24PM SIZE OF THE ENGINE ON THE BACK OF A TOW TRUCK.
03:04:28PM JUST WHEN WE THINK WE ARE COMING CLOSE TO SOMETHING, WE
03:04:32PM STUDY IT.
03:04:32PM AND IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK IT.
03:04:34PM WE FOUND SOMETHING ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
03:04:36PM GOT CLOSE TO MAKE AN OFFER AND SOLD RIGHT FROM UNDERNEATH
03:04:40PM US.
03:04:40PM IT IS IN LITIGATION NOW.
03:04:42PM WHEN WE TELL YOU WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON IT, WE HAVE BEEN
03:04:45PM WORKING ON IT.
03:04:46PM AND WE ARE HOPING TO FIND SOMETHING.
03:04:47PM WITH RESPECT TO THE HOWARD AVENUE PROJECT -- SWITCHING
03:04:51PM GEARS.
03:04:52PM THAT PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED IN 2021.
03:04:54PM A LAW OF AVERAGE.
03:04:56PM YOU ARE SAYING WHY DID THIS COME OUT OF NOWHERE.
03:04:59PM THAT IS JUST LIKE FIVE ACRES.
03:05:01PM AS ADMINISTRATOR DUNCAN SAID, PART OF THAT IS VEGETATION.
03:05:05PM NOT EVEN BUILDABLE.
03:05:06PM AND WOULDN'T WORK FOR FIRE FLEET.
03:05:08PM MY TEAM IS WORKING IN THERE IN SUPPORT OF OUR CUSTOMER FIRE.
03:05:13PM AND WE ARE WORKING HARD.
03:05:15PM SEVEN ACRES WITH A GOOD TURNING RADIUS IN THE CITY, WE ARE
03:05:18PM ALL THERE.
03:05:18PM >>LYNN HURTAK: QUESTION.
03:05:19PM IS THERE A WAY WE CAN POSSIBLY RENT SOME STORAGE SPACE FOR
03:05:24PM SUPPLY AND, YOU KNOW, JUST ABLE TO GET FIRE STATION 10
03:05:29PM STARTED?
03:05:30PM HAVE YOU ALL BEEN THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX IN TERMS OF THAT
03:05:33PM IF WE CAN MOVE SUPPLY AND MAYBE FLEET TO RENTAL SPACE SO WE
03:05:36PM CAN GET STARTED ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS?
03:05:38PM OR IS THAT NOT REALLY BEEN A CONSIDERATION?
03:05:43PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: THAT IS A GOOD THOUGHT.
03:05:45PM I WILL DEFINITELY BRING THAT UP.
03:05:46PM I HAVE MONDAY MEETINGS TWICE A MONTH WITH ALL THE
03:05:50PM DEPARTMENTS AND MAYBE SOMETHING TO BLOCK TO FIND AT THAT
03:05:55PM STORAGE TO MOVE THE PROJECTS UP.
03:05:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WAY IF WE CAN'T FIND FLEET AND SUPPLY
03:06:01PM SPACE.
03:06:01PM IF WE CAN RENT SPACE, WE CAN START 9 UPGRADES.
03:06:07PM I KNOW A LOT OF WORK AND HASSLE, BUT IF WE CAN'T FIND SPACE.
03:06:10PM I FEEL LIKE WE CAN'T LEAVE FIRE RESCUE WAITING FOR YEARS AND
03:06:16PM YEARS AND INTO FOUGHT OF YOUR OWN OBVIOUSLY.
03:06:18PM Y'ALL ARE WORKING VERY HARD.
03:06:20PM WHAT ELSE DO WE DO.
03:06:21PM I THINK IT IS TIME TO START THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
03:06:24PM >> WE HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK.
03:06:28PM PLEASE MAKE NO MISTAKE THAT HAVEN'T STOPPED.
03:06:30PM WE HAVE DONE UPGRADES.
03:06:32PM AND SUPPLY IS LOCATED FROM FIRE FLEET.
03:06:36PM SO THERE IS A LOCATION FOR THAT.
03:06:37PM REALLY THE OUTGROWTH FOR FIRE FLEET.
03:06:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE THOUGHT IS ONCE SUPPLY IS GONE, THE
03:06:45PM ENOUGH STATION 10 IS THERE AND WE WILL GET STARTED ON THAT
03:06:48PM WHICH IS MY THOUGHT BEHIND THAT AS 24 IS MOVING FORWARD.
03:06:51PM WHAT ELSE CAN WE GET MOVING FORWARD SLOWLY -- AS MUCH AS WE
03:06:55PM CAN.
03:06:55PM I MEAN, I HAVE TOURED SUPPLY.
03:06:58PM AND MAYBE WE COULD FIND A WAREHOUSE SOMEWHERE THAT COULD
03:07:01PM WORK.
03:07:01PM I DON'T KNOW, BUT, AGAIN, IT IS TIME TO SORT OF THINK
03:07:04PM OUTSIDE THE BOX AND FIGURE OUT WHAT ELSE WE CAN TO DO MOVE
03:07:07PM SOME OF THESE PROJECTS ALONG.
03:07:09PM CLENDENIN SPEAKING OUTSIDE THE BOX.
03:07:12PM I KNOW YOU SAID INSIDE THE CITY.
03:07:13PM IS THERE A REQUIREMENT THIS HAS TO BE LOCATED INSIDE THE
03:07:18PM CITY?
03:07:20PM DOESN'T TO BE IN SOUTH COUNTY, IF WE CAN FIND PROPERTY
03:07:23PM ADJACENT TO THE CITY.
03:07:24PM ARE YOU GUYS EXPANDING THAT SEARCH?
03:07:26PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY RULES THAT WE
03:07:28PM CAN'T BE IN A CERTAIN LOCATION.
03:07:30PM BUT I WILL TAKE ANYTHING.
03:07:31PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YEAH, EXACTLY.
03:07:33PM WE ARE A WEIRDLY-SHAPED CITY.
03:07:35PM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE CITY ADJACENT THAT I AM
03:07:39PM SURE -- IF WE EXPAND THAT SEARCH, SURELY SOME PLACES WE CAN
03:07:42PM LOOK AT TRIM TRIPP I WILL TAKE ANYTHING.
03:07:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN -- ANYONE ELSE.
03:07:50PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: UP APPRECIATE IT.
03:07:51PM AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR THE DETAILS.
03:07:53PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
03:07:55PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
03:07:57PM AND THANK YOU, AGAIN, FOR EVERYBODY FOR THIS.
03:07:59PM THESE WERE BROUGHT FORWARD BECAUSE WHEN THE -- WHEN THE TAX
03:08:04PM DIDN'T PASS LAST YEAR, IT -- WE HAVE TO BOND THESE ENTIRELY.
03:08:08PM THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE VERY, VERY NECESSARY.
03:08:10PM ALWAYS ASSUME WITH FLEET MAINTENANCE, GIVEN THE INCLUSION OF
03:08:16PM BUYING NEW PROPERTY THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WE WOULDN'T REALLY
03:08:18PM SEE UNTIL 2026-'27.
03:08:22PM BECAUSE THAT IS SUCH A DIFFICULT ENDEAVOR.
03:08:24PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN MAKES A GREAT POINT, WE CAN LOOK
03:08:28PM OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS.
03:08:29PM I MEAN, GOSH, PARTS OF THE CITY OF TAMPA THAT YOU KNOW WILL
03:08:33PM GO INTO UNIVERSITY AREA, NEW TAMPA.
03:08:35PM YOU THROW A STONE, AND YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
03:08:38PM SO I THINK THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.
03:08:43PM GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
03:08:44PM I DO KNOW -- I BELIEVE THAT THE STATUS OF PROPERTY
03:08:47PM ACQUISITION FOR THE FLEET MAINTENANCE IS COMING BACK TO
03:08:50PM COUNCIL I THINK THIS OCTOBER I MOTIONED FOR IT TO COME BACK.
03:08:56PM LET ME ASK YOU, CHIEF.
03:08:57PM WHAT DO YOU THINK -- AND WON'T HOLD THIS TO YOU 110%, BUT
03:09:03PM WITH FIRE STATION 24.
03:09:05PM WHEN DO YOU THINK WE WILL BREAK GROUND ON IT.
03:09:08PM WITHIN A YEAR ROUGHLY?
03:09:11PM TRIPP SORRY, WHAT WOULD WANT IS YESTERDAY.
03:09:14PM BUT AS FAR AS THE PROCESS MR. MUDDERBACK STATES, AS FAR AS
03:09:20PM THE PROCESS OF SELECTION.
03:09:21PM SO WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THE CCNA TOMORROW.
03:09:27PM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT NORMALLY TAKES.
03:09:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
03:09:32PM YEAH.
03:09:35PM >>CHIEF TRIPP: AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
03:09:36PM >>LUIS VIERA: DISSIDENT VOICES THAT SAID WE WANT A FIRE
03:09:42PM STATION ELSEWHERE.
03:09:44PM WE OWN THE PROPERTY AND EXPEDITE IT.
03:09:47PM WITHOUT THIS, TWO YEARS AND ON TO THE NEXT MAYOR BECAUSE
03:09:51PM PROPERTY ACCESSION, ESPECIALLY IN THE CITY OF TAMPA TAKES A
03:09:54PM LONG TIME.
03:09:55PM FOR ME, WHAT I WANT TO SEE FOR FIRE -- AND YOU KNOW SO MANY
03:09:59PM NEEDS THAT WE HAVE, BUT BY THE END OF THIS TERM, OBVIOUSLY
03:10:03PM FINISH STATION 24.
03:10:04PM GET FLEET MAINTENANCE.
03:10:05PM USE THIS TO EXPAND SERVICE IN WEST TAMPA, AND TRY TO GET AT
03:10:10PM LEAST ON FIRST BASE FOR SOME ADDITION DOWNTOWN.
03:10:13PM YOU KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT EXPANDING, ONE, SOMETHING
03:10:16PM ADDITIONAL IN CHANNELSIDE.
03:10:17PM WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
03:10:18PM THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I KNOW I WOULD LOVE TO SEE -- AND I
03:10:22PM KNOW WOULD YOU LOVE TO SEE THAT.
03:10:23PM OBVIOUSLY I AM PREACHING TO THE CHOIR HERE OBVIOUSLY IN THAT
03:10:26PM REGARD.
03:10:27PM BUT WHAT I CONTINUE TO SAY FOR THESE THINGS AND ALL THE
03:10:29PM NEEDS WE HAVE IN FIRE, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH CIT, WE NEED
03:10:33PM REVENUE.
03:10:33PM I JUST ALWAYS SAY THAT.
03:10:35PM WE NEED REVENUE TO DO THIS UNLESS BOND, BOND, BOND UNTIL WE
03:10:40PM GO CRAZY.
03:10:41PM WE ALWAYS WILL NEED REVENUE FOR THAT.
03:10:43PM THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MA'AM, FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
03:10:46PM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
03:10:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
03:10:48PM IF NO FURTHER COMMENTS.
03:10:50PM YES, MA'AM.
03:10:51PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I JUST HAVE A GENERAL COMMENT, NOT ABOUT
03:10:54PM FIRE.
03:10:54PM BUT I WAS GOING TO ASK MR. ROGERO, AND THEN MAYBE -- MAYBE
03:11:00PM PART OF THIS IS CHIEF BENNETT, INTO.
03:11:03PM WHAT -- I WAS LOOKING -- PLANNED -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON, ONE
03:11:08PM OF HIS COMMENTS MADE ME THINK ABOUT IT.
03:11:11PM ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IN THE OPERATING
03:11:13PM WORKSHOP IS PERSONNEL OPENINGS.
03:11:15PM I KNOW THAT IT SHOWS -- THERE ARE SOME OPENINGS THAT SINCE I
03:11:21PM HAVE BEEN DOING THE BUDGET, THESE POSITIONS HAVE BEEN OPEN.
03:11:24PM SO I AM CURIOUS HOW MANY POSITIONS -- IF WE LOOK AT ALL THE
03:11:29PM POSITIONS, SAY, YOU KNOW, 52 HAS BEEN OPEN FOR
03:11:38PM THREE YEARS.
03:11:38PM AND -- IS IT STILL REALLY NECESSARY?
03:11:44PM I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT AND HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE FOR
03:11:48PM THESE POSITIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN OPENED FOR -- THAT HAVEN'T
03:11:51PM BEEN OPENED FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
03:11:53PM >>JOHN BENNETT: JOHN BENNETT, CHIEF OF STAFF.
03:11:55PM GREAT QUESTION.
03:11:56PM UPON THIS ADMINISTRATION'S START, WE HAD SET A TARGET FOR
03:12:00PM EACH OF THE GROUPS TO WORK WITH THE 5% ATTRITION RATE.
03:12:03PM COUNCIL DOES AN AMAZING JOB OF APPROVING THE PROJECT, PUBLIC
03:12:09PM IS BEHIND THAT.
03:12:10PM WE NEED THE RESOURCES TO WORK IN THE FIELD.
03:12:13PM ANYTHING THAT BREAKS THAT SEAL, WE TRY TO HAVE THAT
03:12:17PM DEPARTMENT WORK WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS AND RECRUITING AND
03:12:20PM ETC.
03:12:21PM AND CHIEF ROGERO'S OFFICE, WE HAD WORKED RECENTLY WITH HIS
03:12:26PM TEAM AND DEVELOPED A NEAR REALTIME DASHBOARD TO LOOK AT THAT
03:12:30PM INFORMATION SO THEY CAN HAVE A BETTER SITUATION AWARENESS IN
03:12:33PM RUNNING A REPORT.
03:12:35PM THE OTHER CHALLENGE, WHICH, AGAIN VAR PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN
03:12:38PM THE DEPARTMENT AND HUMAN RESOURCES, IF PERSON ONE, TWO ,
03:12:42PM THREE, FOUR LEAVES THIS WEEK AND WANT TO GO BACK AND FILL
03:12:45PM POSITIONS, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR.
03:12:47PM POSITION FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT MAY GO DOWN THE TIMELINE.
03:12:52PM FILL FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT BEFORE WE FILL ONE, TWO,
03:12:58PM THREE, FOUR AND NOT 108 LAGS OR 90 DAY LAGS.
03:13:04PM THAT IS HOUSEKEEPING ON THE BACK END AND YOU WILL SEE THEM
03:13:08PM WORKING ON THAT.
03:13:09PM YOU WILL SEE THAT MOVE THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT
03:13:11PM DEPARTMENTS.
03:13:11PM WE ARE IN -- I THINK THE CITY OF TAMPA THROUGH YOUR
03:13:14PM LEADERSHIP, OBVIOUSLY THE MAYOR ADMINISTRATION AND THE WE
03:13:18PM HAVE A VERY GOOD JOB HIRING COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES I HAVE
03:13:21PM SEEN AROUND THE COUNTRY.
03:13:23PM SO, AGAIN, I THINK WE ARE POSTURED AS WELL AND A MATTER
03:13:29PM OF THRU-PUT.
03:13:30PM MOST OF OUR SUPPORT DEPARTMENTS ARE SEVERELY UNDERSTAFF BY
03:13:33PM RATIO OF A GOVERNMENT OUR SIZE.
03:13:35PM WE WILL FIND OTHER EFFICIENCIES TO MAKE SURE WE WILL HAVE
03:13:38PM THE BANDWIDTH TO SUPPORT IN THE SUPPORTING DEPARTMENTS AND
03:13:42PM WILL BE PUTTING ALL THE ENERGY TO THE FRONT LINES.
03:13:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I APPRECIATE THAT.
03:13:46PM LIKE I SAID, REGINA SIEWERT NOT LOOKING FOR POSITIONS THAT
03:13:48PM ARE OPEN ONE OR TWO MONTHS.
03:13:49PM I AM LOOKING FOR SOME THAT ARE OPEN FOR A COUPLE OF BUDGET
03:13:53PM CYCLES AND TALKING ABOUT WHY.
03:13:55PM AND DO -- IF -- I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT DATA AND WE WILL
03:13:59PM SEE HOW MUCH MONEY AND, LIKE, SPACE WE HAVE FOR THOSE FOLKS.
03:14:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
03:14:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN I ASK A QUESTION FOR MR. BHIDE.
03:14:10PM WILL YOU PROVIDE A REPORT OF HOW MANY -- EITHER FEET, MILES,
03:14:17PM WHATEVER INCREMENTS OF PAVING.
03:14:20PM REPAVING, RESURFACING YOU ARE PLANNING ON ACCOMPLISHING
03:14:24PM WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA IN THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR?
03:14:27PM >>VIK BHIDE: SURE.
03:14:28PM I WILL SUBMIT IT AS PART OF THE -- VIK BHIDE, DIRECTOR OF
03:14:32PM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
03:14:34PM I WILL SUBMIT IT AS IS PART OF THE SAME MEMO THAT SPEAKS OF
03:14:37PM THE $7 MILLION AND HOW IT --
03:14:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I APPRECIATE IT.
03:14:41PM SO WE HAVE A CLEAR EXPECTATION AFTERNOON
03:14:45PM AND MISUNDERSTANDING.
03:14:47PM >>VIK BHIDE: THE GIST IS 17 TO 18 MILES PER QUARTER TO BE
03:14:50PM ABLE TO MAINTAIN OR EXCEED THAT GOING FORWARD.
03:14:52PM BIG DIFFERENCE, OR THE -- THE BENEFITS THAT YOU WILL SEE.
03:14:56PM AND WE HAVE SEEN THIS YEAR IS, THESE RAINY MONTHS.
03:15:01PM WE FOUND BETTER PROCESSES TO CONTINUE TO DO REPAVING.
03:15:05PM THAT IS WHEN HISTORICALLY YOU SAW SIGNIFICANT DROP-OFF.
03:15:09PM AND WE FOCUS IN DRIER MONTHS.
03:15:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SIDEWALKS AS WELL, AND LOOKING FORWARD
03:15:15PM YOUR REPORT OF BRINGING SOME OF THE STUFF IN-HOUSE AND BE
03:15:18PM ABLE TO EXPAND THAT.
03:15:19PM >>VIK BHIDE: MAY I INCLUDE THAT IN THE SAME WRITTEN REPORT
03:15:21PM THAT YOU'VE REQUESTED ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS?
03:15:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PER.
03:15:28PM >>VIK BHIDE: WELL, YOU CAN'T MAKE A MOTION TODAY BUT INCLUDE
03:15:30PM THAT INFORMATION.
03:15:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
03:15:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL ACTUAL LEGAL EXPAND ON THAT.
03:15:34PM BECAUSE WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND MIGHT BE EASIER FOR
03:15:38PM YOU.
03:15:39PM IF YOU CAN DO -- I KNOW THERE ARE DIFFERENT -- YOU WERE
03:15:42PM TALKING ABOUT HOW WE PAVE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
03:15:43PM THE PAVING THAT STRICTLY PAVING.
03:15:47PM THE PAVING DONE WITH STORMWATER FUNDS.
03:15:49PM AND THE PAVING THAT IS DONE WITH, YOU KNOW, VISION ZERO TYPE
03:15:55PM MOBILITY GRANTS.
03:15:56PM I THINK IF YOU PUT THEM IN THREAT DIFFERENT BUCKETS, IT WILL
03:15:59PM HELP US UNDERSTAND THAT, YES, THIS IS TRADITIONAL PAVING.
03:16:03PM THIS IS COVERING FOR STORMWATER WORK OR SLASH PIPES WORK.
03:16:07PM THIS IS, YOU KNOW, VISION ZERO.
03:16:11PM AND TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, BUT I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP
03:16:14PM YOU SO THAT YOU ARE NOT -- WE ARE NOT GIVING THE PUBLIC THE
03:16:19PM IDEA THEY WILL GET 50 MILES PAVED OR 100 MILES PAVED, IT IS
03:16:25PM REALLY, YOU KNOW, 50 MILES OF ROAD, 30 MILES OF
03:16:31PM STORMWATER/PIPES.
03:16:32PM AND THEN, YOU KNOW, 20 MILES OF -- OF VISION ZERO.
03:16:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MY IMPRESSION OF THAT IS -- AND I KNOW YOU
03:16:41PM THINK -- YOU -- YOUR PUTTING IT IN YOUR HAT AS PAVING, I AM
03:16:48PM LOOKING AT SATISFYING THE NEEDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
03:16:51PM THEY ARE NOT WORRIED -- GREATS THAT HOWARD AVENUE IS GET
03:16:54PM REGULAR PAVED AS PART AIR FORCE BIGGER PROJECT.
03:16:56PM THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW COME THEIR INTERBAY IS NOT GETTING
03:17:01PM REPAVED OR.
03:17:06PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU WANT TO DO THE WHOLE GAMUT AND BIGGER
03:17:09PM NUMBERS.
03:17:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAVING MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING AND A BETTER
03:17:13PM PROCESS SO WE ARE ALL SPEAKING ON THE SAME PAGE.
03:17:16PM I AGREE WITH THAT.
03:17:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT CONCLUDES THE AGENDA.
03:17:19PM ALL RIGHT, WE WILL BE BACK THURSDAY MORNING, 9 A.M.
03:17:22PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
03:17:23PM THANK YOU.
03:17:24PM ONE SECOND -- MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCILMAN
03:17:30PM VIERA.
03:17:30PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
03:17:33PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
03:17:35PM [GAVEL SOUNDING]
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