TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
AUGUST 8, 2024, 5:01 P.M.

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05:02:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
ORDER.
IF WE CAN HAVE ROLL CALL.
05:02:43PM >>BILL CARLSON:
HERE.
05:02:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HERE.
05:02:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
HERE.
05:02:46PM >>LUIS VIERA:
HERE.
05:02:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
HERE.
05:02:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HERE.
05:02:53PM >>CLERK:
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:03:00PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS.
I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, BUT FIRST, JENNIFER MALONE HAS
SOMETHING TO SAY BEFORE WE CLOSE IT.
05:03:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
A MOTION TO OPEN THE HEARINGS FIRST.
05:03:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO OPEN THE HEARING.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN
CLENDENIN.
05:03:17PM >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE.
ITEM 2 IS AN AMENDMENT, TA/CPA 24-02 AND REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE.
05:03:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER TWO TO
OCTOBER 12, 2024, 5:01 P.M. AT 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR,
TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
05:03:45PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NUMBER REZ-23-99 CONTINUED TO THE
OCTOBER PUBLIC HEARING.
WAIVE THE 180-DAY RULE.
05:03:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PART OF THE MOTION TO WAIVE THE 180 DAYS.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OH, 5:01 P.M., 301 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
33602.
05:04:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
REMINDER TO PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THIS IS
THE ONLY NOTICE YOU GET OF THAT DATE, OCTOBER 24, 2024 AT
5:01 P.M.
05:04:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
TO THE MISNOTICES AND WITHDRAWALS.
05:04:25PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
I DID HEAR MR. SHELBY SAY OCTOBER --
05:04:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
OCTOBER 10, 2024.
THANK YOU.
05:04:32PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, THIS WAS A MISNOTICE
AND CANNOT BE HEARD.
PLEASE REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
05:04:39PM >> GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO REMOVE NUMBER 8.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:04:44PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
AGENDA ITEM 9, THE APPLICANTS HAD ASKED
THAT THIS APPLICATION BE WITHDRAWN.
REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
05:04:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 9.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
CLENDENIN.
05:04:58PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, ALSO A MISNOTICE
AND CAN NOT BE HEARD.
05:05:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:05:11PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
LASTLY, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, REZ-24-56.
A MISNOTICE AND CANNOT BE HEARD.
05:05:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 9 FROM
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
OKAY, WE HAVE OPENED ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND KICK OFF WITH
ITEM NUMBER 1.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
05:05:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SO MOVED.
05:05:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
05:05:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSE?
YES, MA'AM.
05:05:43PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
OPPORTUNITY.
TONIGHT I HAVE FIRST ON YOUR AGENDA ARE THE YBOR CITY
PARKING STANDARDS.
SECTION 27-178.
LAST MONTH ON JULY 25, WE REQUESTED THAT A PORTION OF THE
JULY 2024 TEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE BE PULLED OUT.
AND THAT WAS THE SECTION 27-178 AND CONTINUED UNTIL TONIGHT
IN ORDER TO ALLOW STAFF TO MAKE MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO AREAS
WITHIN THE LANGUAGE THAT WE FOUND NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED, AS
WELL AS TO RESPOND TO THE ADDITIONAL MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN
HURTAK RELATING TO THE LANDSCAPING ITEMS AND BUFFERING.
WE HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION THAT WILL TAKE US THROUGH THOSE
MODIFICATIONS AS WELL AS WE HAVE FOUR MINOR REVISIONS WE
WOULD REQUEST COUNCIL TO MAKE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
READING AND I WILL GO THROUGH THOSE IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE
OF COUNCIL.
TONIGHT WITH ME, I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE -- I HAVE ERIC
COTTON, OUR ZONING ADMINISTRATOR; DENNIS FERNANDEZ,
HISTORIC PRESERVATION MANAGER; SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ
AND DANA CROSBY COLLIER FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
AND THEN ALSO MAJOR ERIC DEFELICE WITH TAMPA POLICE
DEPARTMENT, AS THIS HAS BEEN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT OVER THE
PAST TWO YEARS TO GET TO THAT POINT TONIGHT.
IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ONCE WE GET THROUGH WITH THE
PRESENTATION, I DO HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS AVAILABLE TO
ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
I WILL GO AHEAD THROUGH THE PRESENTATION REAL QUICK.
SO THE MOTION.
THE MOTION WAS ORIGINALLY MADE ON SEPTEMBER 15, 2022.
SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD OVER THE PAST ALMOST TWO YEARS
TO GET TO THIS POINT THAT WE ARE TONIGHT.
HIGHLIGHTS OF THE CHANGES.
ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT ON JULY 25 WAS THE STATEMENT OF
COMPLIANCE.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CORRECTED AND IS BEFORE
YOU TONIGHT.
AND THAT -- I WILL GO THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT THAT LANGUAGE IS.
BUT THE -- THE ASSUMPTION IS IF YOU RECEIVED YOUR
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FROM THE BLC AND THAT
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS ENTITLED THE PROPERTY TOO AND
CONTINUED TO OPERATE UNDER THAT, AND AS OF SEPTEMBER 5, 2024,
YOU WILL BE CONSIDERED A PERFORMING LOT WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
NEW LOTS THAT WILL REQUEST TO BE ESTABLISHED AFTER THAT WILL
NOW GO THROUGH THE SPECIAL USE 2 PROCESS AND WILL BE HEARD
IN A PUBLIC HEARING MUCH LIKE TONIGHT.
IT WILL BE SITE PLAN CONTROLLED AND WILL STILL REQUIRE
CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FROM THE BLC.
THE NEXT IS THE VEHICLE USE AREA BUFFER TO BE A FIVE-FOOT
LANDSCAPE AREA WITH FOUR-FOOT FENCE.
I WILL GO TO THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ON THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
INTERIOR LANDSCAPING TO BE REQUIRED FOR LOTS OVER 7500
SQUARE FEET.
ON JULY 25, WE WENT OVER WITH YOU THAT THE CURRENT CODE HAS
DIFFERENT STANDARDS FORE UNDER 7500 AND OVER 7500.
AND WE DID NOW INCORPORATE THOSE INTERIOR LAND SCAPE ISLANDS
FOR THE OVER 7500.
PERMANENT IRRIGATION FOR NEW LOTS WILL NEED TO BE INSTALLED.
A 15-FOOT BUFFER ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USE WHICH IS
STANDARD CODE FOR USE GROUP Cs NEXT TO GROUP As.
THE REMOVAL OF THE REQUIREMENT TO SECURE THE LOTS.
ONE THING WE DID FIND IS MOST OF THE LOTS -- THE MAJORITY OF
THE LOTS IN THE DISTRICT ARE 24-7.
SO REQUIRING THEM TO BE CLOSED WHEN THEY ARE NEVER CLOSED
WAS DIFFICULT.
WE ARE STILL COMMITTED TO LOOKING INTO THIS AS PART OF THE
CODE UPDATE.
SO IT IS JUST NOT IN THE LANGUAGE FOR YOU TONIGHT.
BUT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT AS WE UPDATE THE CODE WITH
THE CONSULTANT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
AND THEN CHANGES TO THE SIGNS.
AND THEN THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT -- AND I JUST WENT OVER
THIS BRIEFLY THAT ALL PRINCIPAL USE PARKING LOTS
RECEIVED BLC APPROVAL SEPTEMBER 5, FOUR AND CONTINUE TO
OPERATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUCH APPROVAL WILL BE CONSIDERED
PERFORMING WITH THIS SUBSECTION A.
PRINCIPAL USE PARKING LOTS NOT APPROVED THAT BLC APPROVAL
PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 5 SHALL COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF
27-177 IN THIS SUBSECTIONS A.
ONE OF THE REVISIONS I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IN JUST A
MINUTE WILL BE SUBSECTIONS A AND B.
WE LEFT THE B OFF AND ONE OF THE REVISIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND
SECOND READING THAT WILL NEED TO BE MADE AND I WILL GO
THROUGH THAT VEHICLE USE LANDSCAPING AND USE-TO-USE BUFFERS
AND SCREENING.
I KNOW YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS OF REZONING.
WHAT IS REQUIRED WITH A USE KNOWS ANOTHER USE AND WHAT IS
REQUIRED WITH PARKING AN AREA THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE
RIGHT-OF-WAY.
SO AS PART OF THE CHANGES THAT CAME THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER
BETWEEN THE VUA WHICH IS THE PARK LOT AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY,
WHICH IS THE STREET WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE FIVE FOOT WITH A
FOUR-FOOT TRANSPARENT FENCE.
THE TYPICAL WROUGHT IRON TRANSPARENT THAT YOU CAN SEE
THROUGH.
AND A HEDGE.
THE USE-TO-USE BUFFERS BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND
RESIDENTIAL USE IS CONTAINED IN THE LANGUAGE THIS EVENING AS
15-FOOT WITH A SIX-FOOT SOLID FENCE.
CLEARLY TO MEET PLC STANDARDS.
AND THEN THAT IS ALSO PLANTED BUFFER.
WHEN THE PARKING LOT IS NEXT TO A NONRESIDENTIAL USE, IT IS
A FIVE-FOOT BUFFER AND THIS FIVE-FOOT CONSISTS OF TREES AND
HEDGE.
WE HAVE DISCUSSED SIGNAGE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW RELATED
THAT THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR A SIGN THAT SPOKE TO NO
CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY IN
CHAPTER 14.
WE HAVE NOW MOVED THAT REQUIREMENT FROM 14 INTO 27, SO IT IS
NOW IN BOTH PLACES AND ALSO IT SHALL BE ONE SIGN FOR -- AT
ENTRANCE FOR THE COST OF PARKING, HOURS OF OPERATION, THE
PHYSICAL ADDRESS OF LOT AND THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE
OPERATOR.
YOU WILL HEAR PROBABLY THIS EVENING IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT
THERE ARE A BUNCH OF OTHER SIGNS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE
STATE WHEN YOU HAVE PRINCIPAL USE PARKING LOT RELATED TO
LIABILITY, RELATED TO HOLD HARMLESS OTHER THINGS.
LOCK YOUR VALUABLES.
IF IT IS A STATE-REQUIRED SIGNS, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PUT IT
THERE.
THIS IS FOR ONLY ADDITIONAL SIGNS THAT ARE CITY-REQUIRED
SIGNS.
AND THEN THE NEW ADDITION WITH AS TO HAVE AN ANNUAL
OPERATIONS AND SECURITY PLAN.
THIS IS TO HAVE A CLEARLY FOR LOTS THAT HAVE PAID PARKING
THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT FROM 10 P.M. TO 4 A.M.
THEY ARE TO HAVE AN UNIFORM SECURITY GUARD AND THOSE LOTS
WOULD SUBMIT AN ANNUAL OPERATIONS AND SECURITY PLAN THAT AN
ACTUALLY CONFIRMS THE INTENT TO CONTINUE OPERATION OF THE
LOT, THE ILLUSTRATION OF THE LOT, TO SHOW THAT IT REMAINS IN
COMPLIANCE WITH THAT BLC PERMIT AS WAS PROVIDED OR APPROVED,
THE COPY OF THE CONTRACT WITH THE SECURITY COMPANY.
PHOTOS OF ALL THE SIGNS ON THE LOT AND AN AFFIDAVIT
ATTESTING TO OVERALL COMPLIANCE THOSE COUPLE OF REVISIONS.
ONE THING WE HAVE HEARD IT THAT SOME OF THESE CHANGES NEED
ADDITIONAL TIME TO COMPLY WITH.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE IT SET FOR SEPTEMBER 5, WHICH IS AFTER YOUR
SECOND READING OF THIS ORDINANCE AND IF IT IS THE PLEASURE
OF COUNCIL, WE WILL REVISE THAT TO BE OCTOBER 1 WHICH IS
ABOUT 60 DAYS, 45, 60 DAYS FROM TODAY, AND THAT WAY I AM
SHOWING YOU WHICH SECTIONS OF THE CODE WILL CHANGE TO BE
OCTOBER 1.
THAT WILL BE THE DATE OF COMPLIANCE AND WHEN THE SPECIAL USE
WILL KICK IN, AS WELL AS WHEN THE LICENSE SECURITY GUARD
WILL BE AND FINALLY WE WILL MAKE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS
ORDINANCE TO BE OCTOBER 1.
THAT WAY WE ARE NOT SHIFTING FROM AN ATTENDANT TO A SECURITY
GUARD AND HAVE A VOID OF HAVING SOMEBODY AT THE LOTS.
SECONDLY IS THAT A AND A AND B THAT I TALKED ABOUT IN THE
FIRST SECTION, THAT ALL LOTS, NEW LOTS WILL GO THROUGH THAT
SPECIAL USE 2 PROCESS AND COMPLY WITH 27-177 IN SECTION A
AND B.
THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER STATEMENT OF COMPLIANCE UNDER THE
SURFACE PARKING LOT STANDARDS OF ALL APPLICATIONS OF SURFACE
PARKING LOTS SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY CERTIFICATE OF
APPROPRIATENESS BY THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
AND ALL NEW APPLICATION ALSO GO TO THE BLC.
FULL BLC.
NOT THE ADMINISTRATOR AND ANY SURFACE LOTS.
I THINK SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT COME UP.
ARE THESE STANDARDS FOR AN APARTMENT BUILDING THAT HAS A
PARK LOT IF IT HAS SURFACE PARKING LOT?
THE ANSWER IS, YES, THEY ARE.
THIS IS NOT JUST IF YOU HAVE A PAID LOT.
IF YOU WERE COMING IN WITH A NEW OFFICE BUILDING IN YBOR AND
IT HAS A SURFACE PARKING LOT BEHIND IT, YOU ARE GOING TO
MEET THE BUFFERING AND FENCING AND LANDSCAPING THAT A SINGLE
LOT WILL BE REQUIRED TO MEET.
THESE NEW STANDARDS ARE FOR ALL LOTS.
TYPICALLY THOSE LOTS COME IN TO THE BARRIO AS PART OF THE
BUILDING.
SO YOU WILL HAVE THE BANK AND THE LOT.
IT IS ALL GOING TO THE BLC AS ONE PACKAGE.
AND THAT IS WHEN THE STANDARDS WILL BE CHECKED.
AND THEN LASTLY, THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE IN THE CODE THAT
REFER TO THE TELEPHONE NUMBER OF A CONTACT PERSON OR THE
SECURITY GUARD.
IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WAS CHANGED TO SECURITY COMPANY
BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE FOR DIFFERENT NIGHTS
AND IS THAT INFORMATION FOR THE COMPANY WILL HAD BEEN
PREFERRED AND OUR FOURTH REVISION WE WILL ASK TO BE MADE
BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE
FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:16:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:16:51PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU PUT
THROUGH THIS.
I SPOKE TO MR. ACCARDI YESTERDAY.
AND HE IS HERE TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND HE MAY HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS, BUT THE TWO MAIN ONES
THAT I HEARD FROM THIS.
AND I SPENT MORE TIME WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAN I HAVE WITH
HIM, BY THE WAY, BUT THAT IS THE TWO ISSUES HE IS MAINLY
AGAINST IS ONE, THE SECURITY PLAN.
JUST THE BURDEN OF CREATING A SECURITY PLAN.
HOW DO YOU FIND THE EXPERTISE.
HOW DO YOU PAY FOR IT?
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO IF YOU ARE IN THE PARKING AND THE
RELIABILITY AND COST OF HAVING INDIVIDUAL SECURITY AND THE
QUESTION IS, WHY WOULDN'T THE CITY DO THIS.
THIS MORNING WE HAD A CRA UPDATE, AND THE CRA IS FUNDING
SPECIFIC SECURITY AND A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT LIKE
DOWNTOWN AND YBOR THAT MAY PAY A PART OF SECURITY.
HE WILL SPEAK AND THEN YOU CAN DISCUSS IT.
CAN YOU TELL US WHAT FROM YOUR RESEARCH THE SECURITY PLAN
AND PARKING OWNERS PAYING FOR THEIR OWN SECURITY AND EACH
ONE HAVING A DIFFERENT COMPANY, DIFFERENT POLICY.
IS THAT A STANDARD THAT MOST CITIES VICE?
WHAT IS BEST PRACTICES FROM YOUR RESEARCH?
05:18:10PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
AS YOU MIGHT RECALL, THIS IS -- THE CITY OF
ORLANDO REQUIRES THIS ALSO.
AND IF YOU WANT TO JUST CALL IT AN OPERATIONS PLAN, I MEAN,
REALLY IT IS SHOWING US THAT YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
SECURITY REQUIREMENT AND YOU HAVE THAT ACTIVE CONTRACT WHICH
MEANS YOU HAVE A LICENSED GUARD AT YOUR LOT THURSDAY, FRIDAY
AND SATURDAY NIGHT FROM 10 P.M. UNTIL 4 A.M., SIMILAR TO THE
ATTENDANT THAT IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED, BUT IT IS THROUGH A
COMPLIANCE.
05:18:45PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BETWEEN ORLANDO, OTHER SAYS THAT DO THAT AND
OTHER FUNDING MECHANISMS LIKE USING CRA MONEY AND SPECIAL
TAXING DISTRICT AND PUTTING A SPECIAL FEE ON PARKING.
THEREIS ANOTHER MODEL THAT WILL EXIST RATHER THAT
INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS.
05:19:01PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT.
05:19:03PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BESIDE ORLANDO, DO OTHER CITIES DO WHAT WE
ARE SUGGESTING DOING?
05:19:09PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
SOME OTHER CITIES RIGHT NOW HAVE MORATORIUM
ON NEW BUSINESSES AND NEW NIGHT CLUBS AS THEIR WAY OF
APPROACHING SECURITY TO ENHANCE THE SECURITY SITUATION.
THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT FOR A LONG
TIME COUNCIL IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF HAVING THE OPERATIONS AND
SECURITY PLAN.
IT IS AT YOUR DISCRETION THAT THAT BE REMOVED.
05:19:31PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WANT TO ASK BECAUSE YOU SPENT A LOT OF
TIME AND DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH.
I WANT TO PUT WHATEVER RESEARCH YOU HAVE ON THE TABLE.
LAST QUESTION.
YOU TALKED A LOT OF APPLICATIONS GOING FORWARD.
HAS LEGAL LOOKED AT IT AND PUT THIS REQUIREMENT IN FOR
ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN PERMITTED A LONG TIME AGO?
05:19:49PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
I WILL LET LEGAL SPEAK TO THAT, BUT ANYBODY
WHO HAS BEEN PERMITTED AND HAS CONTINUED.
THESE REGULATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE SECURITY GUARD IF THEY ARE
PAID LOT ON THURSDAY NIGHT, THEY DO NOT MAINTAIN THEM.
THEY HAVE A CURRENT PERMIT AND OPERATING UNDER THAT PERMIT
AND VESTED FOR THAT PER PIT.
THIS IS FOR NEW LOTS GOING FORWARD WHO DO NOT HAVE THAT.
05:20:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
THE ONES ALREADY PERMITTED DON'T HAVE TO
HAVE THE SECURITY GUARD AND THE SECURITY PLAN?
05:20:18PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
THEY DO.
THEY DO.
05:20:20PM >>BILL CARLSON:
LEGAL HAS -- I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE
QUESTION.
I'M JUST ASKING.
05:20:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
RIGHT NOW THE CODE REQUIRES AN ATTENDANT.
IT DOESN'T SPECIFY WHAT HAD THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THAT
ATTENDANT ARE.
AND THE GOAL IS FROM AN ATTEND DONE AT A LICENSED SECURITY
GUARD.
05:20:37PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY QUESTION IS, IS IT OKAY TO PUT THIS
REQUIREMENT ON PEOPLE WHO HAVE A WORKING PROPERTY FOR MANY
YEARS?
FOR THE LEGAL OPINION.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER I AM JUST ASKING.
05:20:54PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ:
SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
DEPARTMENT.
SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING IN RESPONSE TO AN
IDENTIFIED ISSUE IN -- IN THIS AREA.
I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE AND THESE ARE STANDARDS THAT
APPLY TO ALL THE LOTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT WHETHER THEY ARE NEW
OR ESTABLISHED.
IT IS JUST A NEW REQUIREMENT TO ADDRESS A PUBLIC SAFETY
ISSUE THAT COUNCIL.
05:21:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:21:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THANK YOU.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT MISS FEELEY AND HER TEAM HAS
DONE.
ALL OF THEM HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS.
I AM VERY EXCITED.
THERE COULD BE TWEAKS AFTER THIS IF WE NEED TO.
BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS SECURITY.
AND I HAD THIS BECAUSE TPD OFFICERS WERE TELLING ME OF THE
PROBLEMS THEY HAD IN THE DISTRICT.
I WENT DOWN, CLOSED YBOR WITH THEM AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
I HAVE OPINION WORKING FOR TWO YEARS TO TRY TO FIX THIS
PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM IS SECURITY.
THE PARKING LOTS, ADDITIONAL IS GREAT, BUT THE MAIN POINT IS
THE SECURITY PLAN.
ORLANDO HAD SUCCESS WITH THIS.
MAJOR DEFELICE IS HERE TO SHOW US HOW IT HEMS.
HE SHOWED US LAST TIME THAT HE CLEARLY SAID THEY DON'T HAVE
THE CAPACITY NOR THE EXTRA OFFICERS TO DO THIS.
IT IS NOT TPD'S RESPONSIBILITY.
SO I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.
AND I ABSOLUTELY PLAN TO SUPPORT IT.
05:22:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:22:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
AND I KNOW A LOT OF WORK.
YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON IT AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
YOU ARE TREATING THE PARKING LOTS EQUABLY.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HEARD GOING INTO THIS -- WHY TREAT ONE
PARKING LOT DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS AND I THINK THAT IS
COMMENDABLE.
I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE SIGN -- SIGN CLUTTER.
YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT SIGN CLUTTER BEFORE.
A CONTROL OF HOW MANY ENTRANCES.
IF IT IS A FLAT PARKING LORE ARE THE HOW MANY ENTRANCE AS
LOT CAN HAVE?
HOW MANY BIG DESIGNATOR.
ENTRANCE EVERY 15 FEET AND PUT SIGNS EVERY 15 FEET.
05:23:10PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
TRANSPORTATION TECHNICAL STANDARDS OF HOW
MANY AND THE DIFFERENCE OF THE ACCESS POINTS NEEDS TO BE.
05:23:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
FOR A PARKING LOT?
VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU.
05:23:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:23:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
GLORIA MOREDA WAS HERE WHEN THEY STARTED
15, 17 YEARS.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THOSE FILES SAY.
I REMEMBER A LONG CONVERSATION OF PARKING LOTS IN YBOR CITY.
THERE IS ONLY ONE AREA -- AND SOME PEOPLE MAY BE SAYING,
WHAT DID HE SAY?
ONLY ONE THAT WE PAY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR TRAFFIC.
AND THE CITIZENS PAY $50,000 A DAY CERTAINLY NOT IN
YBOR CITY AND OPENING EYES TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING BECAUSE
AT THAT TIME, YOUR LAND, YOUR POLICE OFFICERS, BUT THEY
AIN'T SPARING A DIME.
AND IT IS ALL THEIRS.
I AM FOR A GOOD SOLID CONTRACT FOR EVERYBODY.
AND THAT DOESN'T COME UP FOR A VOTE UNTIL NOVEMBER.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT I LOOK AT AND I SAY WHAT A DIFFERENCE.
I AM NOT AGAINST THIS, BUT IF IT IS FAIR, IT WOULD BE
EVERYWHERE.
IF WE HAVE A SEPARATE CONTRACT, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO
EVERY THERE.
SO THESE ARE JUST AN EYE-OPENER OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND HOW
WE CREATED IT AND HOW WE OWN A PARKING GARAGE AND SOLD IT
FOR FACE VALUE.
THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE MAKING MONEY.
WE HAVE DONE IT ALL.
NOT US BUT OTHERS HAVE.
I WAS NOT HERE FOR THE LAST ONE.
I WAS HERE FOR THE FIRST ONE.
ONLY ONE.
UNO.
BECAUSE I KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
OR I THOUGHT I DID.
I AM NOT THAT SMART TO COME UP WITH THE FUTURE AND COME UP
WITH SOMETHING.
THESE ARE THE THINGS -- I AM NOT TROUBLED BY THIS.
I AM NOT SURPRISE BY THIS.
SOONER OR LATER WHEN YOU GIVE EVERYTHING AWAY, SOMEBODY MAY
WANT THE SAME THING.
THIS MAY BE DIRECT TO WHAT WE ARE DOING.
SO WHICHEVER WAY I VOTE, I WANT THE OTHERS BIG PARKING
GARAGE LIKE 10,000 CARS OR WHATEVER TO HAVE THE SAME THING
THAT THIS ONE HAS.
THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY, THANK YOU.
05:25:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE?
IF ANYTHING, THEN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:26:00PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
05:26:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
05:26:08PM >> JASON ACCARDI, THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF 717 PARKING AND
OWNER OF ACCARDI REAL ESTATE.
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
COULD I ASK FOR A FEW EXTRA MINUTES TO TALK TONIGHT?
05:26:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MR. SHELBY, DO WE ALLOW SPEAKER WAIVER
FORMS IN THIS CASE.
05:26:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
DO YOU HAVE SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS OTHERWISE
THREE MINUTES IF WAIVED BY COUNCIL.
COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
05:26:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY TO WAIVE THE TIME.
05:26:39PM >> MY SON AND MY DAUGHTER.
05:26:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WILL BE ONE MINUTE.
05:26:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO MAKE IT FIVE MINUTES.
05:26:46PM >> THANK YOU.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
STEVE MICHELINI AND I HAVE COME IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE --
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK ABBY AND HER ENTIRE STAFF FOR
BEING PATIENT WITH THE RESIDENTS OF YBOR AND THE COMMERCIAL
BUSINESS OWNERS IN YBOR THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
I BOUGHT MY FIRST PARKING LO THE AND MANAGED MY FIRST
PROPERTY IN YBOR CITY OVER 34 YEARS AGO.
A LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESS, BEING IN FRONT OF YOU TALKING OF
PARKING STANDARDS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY BEING A PART OF SAFETY AND
SECURITY IN YBOR CITY, OWNING A BAR, OWNING A PARKING LOT,
WHATEVER IT IS, IT IS ALL IMPORTANT TO US.
SO I COMMEND THE CITY STAFF FOR THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I TOOK A LOOK AT AND MY STAFF TOOK A LOOK AT, AND I SENT
EVERYBODY AN E-MAIL OF SOME OF OUR SUGGESTED -- I DON'T WANT
TO CALL THEM CONCERNS, BUT RECOMMENDATIONS, OBSERVATIONS OF
THE CHANGES THAT CITY STAFF MADE.
I AM GOING TO GO QUICKLY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
TIMING, IF YOU PASS THIS.
AT ANY POINT I WOULD APPRECIATE LOOKING A AT THIS TIME
FRAME.
THEY MOVED IT TO OCTOBER -- I DON'T KNOW WHEN -- SOME TIME
IN OCTOBER BUT THE AFFECTED PARTIES WILL ASK FOR MORE TIME.
MAYBE 90 DAYS.
MAYBE A LITTLE MORE TIME.
YOU ARE TALKING OF SECURITY REQUIREMENTS, LIABILITY,
BONDING.
MY FIRST REQUEST FOR COUNCIL WHEN YOU LOOK AT MY PROPOSED
MARK-UP I SUBMITTED YESTERDAY AFTERNOON IS TIMING.
TIMING IS IMPORTANT TO THE OWNER-OPERATOR OF PARKING.
SECONDLY, I HAVE 34 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OWNING AND OPERATING
PARKING LOTS AND GARAGES NATIONWIDE.
I EMPLOY OVER 5,000 EMPLOYEES.
WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING PARKING IN NASHVILLE,
TENNESSEE AS PART OF A DIVESTITURE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO OWN
AND OPERATE A VERY LARGE MARKET IN THE AREA.
I STUDIED IT LAST WEEK.
I MET WITH A LIAISON FROM CITY STAFF AND WE TALKED OF
SECURITY AND PARKING.
NOTHING UNDER THEIR ORDINANCE.
NUMBER ONE MARKET IN THE SOUTH, IN MY OPINION, WITH -- I
COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW PACKED IT WAS.
THEY DO A GOOD JOB WITH THEIR M.O.T. PLANS, MOBILITY PLANS
AND WITH THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WE TALK OF SECURITY.
TODAY, I AM TALKING ABOUT SECURITY.
THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME, MY COMPANY, AND MY
STAFF.
SECURITY AND LIABILITY IN OUR PARKING LOTS.
I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER.
WHAT IS MY CONCERN?
ONE, A SECURITY REQUIREMENT ON PAID PARKING LOTS ONLY.
I HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY VOCAL.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND HAVING A PAID OR UNPAID PARKING LOT
RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER.
CRIME DOESN'T DISCRIMINATE.
UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS A SHOOTING ON FOURTH AVENUE THIS
LAST YEAR ON AN UNPAID PARKING LOT.
AND SOMEBODY DIED.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY WHOSE PROPERTY IT WAS.
IT DOESN'T MATTER.
IF WE ARE HEAR TO TALK OF SAFETY, WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT
IT AS A WHOLE ON PAID AND UNPAID PARKING LOT.
A GARAGE OR PARKING LOT, CRIME CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE.
I WILL ASK YOU GUYS TO SPECIFICALLY REQUIRE US TO PUT A
SECURITY PLAN TOGETHER.
I HAVE ASKED -- AND I THINK MR. MICHELINI ASKED MULTIPLE
TIMES FOR TPD TO COME UP AND PRESENT A SECURITY PLAN.
I THINK THEY ARE THE ONE PROVIDING -- SINCE THEY ARE A LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY A SECURITY PLAN.
NOT A PRIVATE OWNER/OPERATOR OF A PARKING LOT.
WE DO RENT PARKING SPACES.
WE DO REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
BUT A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY TO TALK ABOUT A PLAN, NOT JUST
FOR PARKING LOTS, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING.
OFF STREET, ON STREET AND 7th AVENUE AND ETC.
OTHER THING IS SIGNAGE AND LANDSCAPE BUFFERS.
SIGNAGE TO ME IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I TALKED TO MY TEAM ABOUT -- I HAVE THE WHOLE ENFORCEMENT AT
CHET'S PARKING LOT.
AND WHEN YOU PULL IN A PARKING LOT, YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW TO
PAY, WHERE TO PAY.
I KNOW AGAIN -- I JUST GOT THIS TONIGHT AND ON THE SCREEN
THEY MADE ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND FOR US AS AN ORGANIZATION,
MORE IS BETTER.
BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE CALLING EVERY DAY AND SAYING, OH, I
DIDN'T SEE THE SIGN OR I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PAY.
THE SIGNAGE IS IMPORTANT TO US. WE ARE GOING TO APPRECIATE
SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ABBY AND HER TEAM PUT TOGETHER ON
THAT.
TONIGHT, IF YOU CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THE SUGGESTED CHANGES OR
STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT.
I THINK THEY ARE REASONABLE.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ARE OWNER-OPERATORS.
THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS.
AS DENNIS KNOWS AND SEVERAL PEOPLE IN YBOR, THE PARKING LOTS
IN YBOR ARE VERY SMALL.
I KNOW THESE ARE FOR NEW PARKING LOTS.
NOT OLD PARKING LOTS.
OUR CONCERN IS A 15-FOOT SETBACK OFF OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY
AND SIX-FOOT WALL TAKES OFF A LOT OF REAL ESTATE IF YOU WANT
TO MAKE IT A PARKING LOT.
IF YOU CAN JUST KIND OF JUMP AHEAD AND IMAGINE IF I TOOK
AWAY MY 15 OR 20 PARKING LOTS IN YBOR CITY.
MADE THEM UNPAVED PARKING LOT.
DIDN'T HAVE TO MEET YOUR REQUIREMENT AND HAD ALL THIS BUFFER
REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AND LOSE PARKING IN THE DISTRICT.
AM I DONE?
05:32:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:32:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MR. ACCARDI -- I ALMOST CALLED YOU BY YOUR
FIRST NAME.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
I AM HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE DATE TO NOVEMBER
1.
A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS SIGNIFICANT --
05:32:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
I THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:32:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME AT ALL.
JUST TO GET YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT.
I MEAN WILL NOVEMBER 1 BE A REASONABLE TIME?
05:32:32PM >> YES, SIR.
05:32:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE OTHER THING IS, REFERENCE TO TAMPA PD.
THAT IS -- BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR.
WHEN YOU ASK A GOVERNMENT TEEING PROVIDE A PLAN, YOU MAY NOT
LIKE THE PLAN THAT THEY PROVIDE.
I THINK DIGITAL CONTROLS FOR YOU MAY BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT QUESTIONABLE.
THE SIGN CLUTTER THING.
I KNOW IT IS AN ISSUE AND SEEN IT -- A PROLIFERATION OF
SIGNS.
I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT ESPECIALLY IN THE HISTORIC
DISTRICT, YOU KNOW HAVING SIGN CUTTER IS PROBLEMATIC AND
BRINGING THAT IN AND MAKING IT MORE REASONABLE AND MORE
AESTHETICALLY APPEALING.
LACK OF BUFFER.
IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE YOU WOULD WANT LESS THAN 15 FEET WITH A
BARRIER WALL THERE.
THANK YOU.
05:33:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:33:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
CAN I MOTION THAT WE LISTEN TO THE REST OF
PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE ALL COMMENT?
05:33:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SURE.
05:33:27PM >> THANK YOU.
05:33:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK?
05:33:35PM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
05:33:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I CAN'T HEAR.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
05:33:39PM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF 717 PARKING.
COUNCIL, YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN UP HERE SEVERAL TIMES ASKING
FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
AND THE ISSUE REGARDING A SECURITY PLAN IS A REQUIREMENT
THAT I DISCUSSED WITH MORRIS MASSEY WHO SAID TO ME THAT YOU
HAVE TO HAVE A SECURITY PLAN ADOPTED BY THE CRA IN ORDER TO
ENABLE FUNDING TO BE USED FOR CRA TO SUPPLEMENT THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT, NOT FOR PERSONNEL, BUT FOR OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.
AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD A MEETING WITH TPD YESTERDAY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID WAS, IF YOU GIVE US MORE
MONEY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO TURN IT DOWN.
AND ALL OF THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE SECURITY
OPERATIONS THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS
TO ENGAGE IN.
AND THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN UNPAID VERSUS PAID LOTS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
IT DOESN'T STOP AT A PRIORITY LINE.
WHATEVER CODE REQUIREMENT YOU ARE PLANNING TO ADOPT SHOULD
BE UNIFORMLY REQUIRED ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET EXCEPTIONS.
YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET EXCEPTIONS WHEN YOU SAY PAID
VERSUS UNPAID LOTS.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN SAYING DON'T DO THAT TO
ME.
WELL, YOU ARE DOING THAT TO THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.
IF THERE IS A SECURITY ISSUE, IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS A
COMMUNITY-WIDE ISSUE NOT SINGULARLY ON INDIVIDUAL
PROPERTIES.
THE CHANGES IN THE CODE HAVE -- HAVE BEEN OCCURRING AS
RECENTLY, AGAIN -- AS RECENTLY AS TONIGHT.
YOU HAD SOME IN JULY.
AND IT IS NOT FAIR TO HAVE US RESPOND TO THESE KIND OF
CHANGES AND THEN SET A -- YOU KNOW, SET A DEADLINE THAT IS
UNREASONABLE.
AND YOU HEARD JASON SAY NOVEMBER 1 WOULD GIVE ENOUGH TIME.
SO CERTAINLY WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT CONSIDERATION GOING
INTO NOVEMBER 1 OPPOSED TO SEPTEMBER -- OR OCTOBER 1 WITH
WHAT THE STAFF HAS PROPOSED.
THE ISSUES REGARDING IRRIGATION AND HEDGES AND THINGS LIKE
THAT.
IF YOU HAVE TO ADD A WATER METER, IT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE
PROPOSITION.
THIS IS NOT CHEAP.
YOU PAY THE $50 FEE.
YOU PAY FOR THE APPLICATION FOR A WATER CONNECTION.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR CONSTRUCTION FEES.
AND THEN YOU ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT -- RECENTLY YOU ADOPTED
A PROVISION THAT WAS WATERING -- THE WATERING CODE -- THE
RESTRICTION ON WATERING.
AND REDUCING THAT TO SAVE WATER.
SO IF YOU HAVE A LOT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU ARE PLANNIN
XERISCAPE OR PLANNING IRRIGATION TO UTILIZE THE NATURAL FLORA,
YOU ARE GOING AGAINST THE OTHER CODES.
I THINK YOU NEED MORE TIME ON THIS.
YOU REALLY NEED MORE TIME.
THE STAFF HAS BEEN GOOD WORKING WITH US, AS WELL AS TPD, AND
APPRECIATE EXTRA TIME TO GET THE DETAILS WORKED OUT.
THANK YOU.
05:36:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE IN PUBLIC COMMENT?
YES, SIR.
PLEASE COME UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
05:36:48PM >> DAVID BAILEY, LIVING HISTORIC YBOR.
AND I WANTED TO SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF COMMENTS WE HEARD
TONIGHT.
WE HEARD THAT SECURITY IS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
IF THE CRA WILL CONSIDER SPENDING MONEY ON SECURITY, ARE
THEY GOING TO START PAYING FOR THE LIGHTS AND THE PARKING
STOPPERS.
A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT BEHIND THAT.
AND IN TERMS OF MORE TIME.
YOU HEARD HISTORIC YBOR COME TO YOU AND SAID WE HAVE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR 20 YEARS.
SO I DON'T THINK -- IF IT GOES TO NOVEMBER, SO BE IT.
BUT IN TERMS OF ANY MORE TIME THAN THAT OR MORE SECURITY
PLANS, WE HAVE BEEN THERE.
DONE THAT.
LAST HEARING, WE HEARD FROM MAYOR DEFELICE.
PRETTY CLEAR WHAT THE PATH FORWARD IS GOING TO BE.
LANDSCAPE SOMETHING FINE WITH CITY LOTS.
A MIRACLE OR SOMEBODY HAS THE RIGHT.
FERTILIZER, PRIVATE LOTS.
CITY LOTS.
LANDSCAPE SOMETHING DOING JUST FINE.
I DON'T WANT TO MUDDY THE WATERS BECAUSE I APPRECIATE
STAFF'S PROGRESS THAT THEY MADE IN EVERYTHING THAT THEY
PROPOSED.
HISTORIC YBOR WANTS TO YOU MOVE FORWARD.
BUT I DO WANT TO JUST SHOW YOU THE NUANCE OF LANGUAGE.
SO -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS.
AND I DO HAVE COPIES.
05:38:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IF WE CAN ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
05:38:11PM >> SO THREE WORDS MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE RECEIVED LAST WEEK.
AND THIS -- CAN YOU SEE THAT?
05:38:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
CAN YOU ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT?
OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
05:38:36PM >> SO THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR AND
WHETHER YOU SAY BY OR VIA.
"PUBLIC HEARING" IS THE OPERATIVE TERM.
NOT ALL BLC APPROVALS ARE THE SAME.
WE HAVE THE BLC COMMISSION.
FOLKS THAT STAY UP THERE.
A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND A LEGAL PROCESS.
THEN YOU HAVE THE ADMINISTRATOR PROCESS FOR ENTIRE PARKING
LOTS.
AND THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED IN THE CODE.
THERE ARE VARIANCES BEING GIVEN.
THERE IS NO PUBLIC NOTICE.
THERE IS NO PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THERE IS NO COMMISSION DECISION.
SO THE EASY SOLUTION IS THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OF JUST
ADDING BY PUBLIC HEARING.
AND I GET THERE ARE SEMANTICS HERE THAT SOUND CONFUSING, BUT
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COMMISSION, A BOARD, PUBLIC NOTICE,
AND A STAFF PERSON MAKING DECISIONS THAT THEY ARE NOT
LEGALLY ABLE TO MAKE.
FOR AN ENTIRE SITE.
THEY CAN MAKE DECISIONS OF PIECES A SITE, BUT THEY CAN NOT
MAKE THE DECISION FOR AN ENTIRE SITE, ESPECIALLY IN THE
LANDMARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.
05:39:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
05:39:54PM >> THANK YOU.
05:39:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
YES, MA'AM.
05:39:59PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
ALISON DUCCETT.
I JUST WANTED TO RAISE A FEW POINTS.
OBVIOUSLY, MY FIRM HAS SUBMITTED SEVERAL LETTERS.
MR. ACCARDI PLACED THAT INTO THE RECORD AND A COUPLE OF
POINTS YOU NEED TO CONSIDER AS YOU MOVE FORWARD IN THIS
PROCESS.
NUMBER ONE IS THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS.
THERE MAY HAVE BEEN CONFUSION EARLIER AND MAYBE I AM WRONG
ABOUT THAT, BUT THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY TO PRINCIPAL
PAID PARKING LOT AND DO NOT APPLY TO ANY OTHER PARKING LOT
IN THE AREA AND THIS IS SIMPLY NOT FAIR TO PAID PRINCIPAL
PARKING LOT.
THIS IS AN YBOR CITY WIDE ISSUE.
SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY APPLIED TO ALL PARKING LOTS IF YOU
ARE GOING TO REQUIRE SECURITY GUARDS.
ALL PARKING LOTS THAT ARE OPEN BETWEEN THE HOURS THAT YOU
ARE REQUIRING SECURITY UNDER THIS OTHER ONE.
NOTE THE DIFFERENCES.
SECTION A OF THIS ORDINANCE, YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO APPLY TO
ALL PUBLIC -- ALL SURFACE PARKING LOTS.
WHY IS THE SECURITY ONLY APPLIED TO PAID PARKING LOT
PROVIDERS.
THEN ANOTHER ITEM THAT IS RELEVANT TO WHAT MR. BAILEY IS
SPEAKING ABOUT, THE BLC APPROVAL.
WE HAVE SEEN CLIENTS AND PARTICULARLY 717 PARKING.
THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR PARKING LOT PROVIDERS
FOR A 30 YEARS.
GOING BACK 30 YEARS, IT HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT, AND WE HAVE
SEEN ISSUES COME BEFORE COUNCIL AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THEY
HAVE ALL THE APPROVALS IN LINE.
WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT A SEPARATE SET OF
HEARINGS WHERE THE CLIENT HAVE ALL THE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS
AND FILED IT IN ALL ACELA BUT TAKES TIME.
I APPRECIATE THE NOVEMBER POTENTIAL DATE AND I ALSO WANTED
TO NOTE FOR THOSE SKEPTICAL ON THE NOVEMBER DATE AND ANY
DATE IN THE FUTURE IS THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THE TIMING
ALONE IF YOU ARE GOING TO REQUIRE THAT THE LOTS RECEIVE BLC
APPROVAL OR HAVE A VALID ONE BEFORE NOVEMBER.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND -- BEFORE SEPTEMBER.
PLEASE UNDERSTAND PART OF THE TIMING IS THAT THESE RECORDS
-- WE NEED -- THE PARKING LOT OPERATORS NEED TO MAKE SURE
THAT THEY ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE CITY AS TO WHAT IS
APPROVED.
WE SUGGESTED FEBRUARY 2024, BUT MR. ACCARDI SAID, IF IT IS
NOVEMBER, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AGAIN, I THINK WE OBJECT AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE ADDITION
OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS APPROPRIATE IN THAT SENTENCE.
IF HE IS SAYING IT IS ALREADY REQUIRED, IT IS SUPERFLUOUS.
AND ADDS AN ADDITIONAL ELEMENT THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
I THINK THAT'S IT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:42:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYBODY ELSE?
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:42:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
OKAY.
I APPRECIATE A LOT OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND
HELPED TO CLARIFY THINGS FOR ME, BECAUSE PARKING LOTS ARE A
BUSINESS.
JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BUSINESS, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW RULES.
IF YOU OPEN A CLUB, YOU GOT TO THE HAVE SECURITY.
WHAT WE ARE SAYING AS A CITY IS, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A PAID
PARKING LOT IN YBOR, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR
SECURITY.
TPD HAS SECURITY PLAN.
THEY CLEARLY SHARED IT LAST TIME.
THEY DON'T WANT TO SHARE THE WHOLE PLAN IN PUBLIC BECAUSE
SHARING A SECURITY PLAN IS NOT SAFE.
IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.
BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM.
SO IN THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN PAID AND UNPAID.
UNPAID PARKING LOTS ARE GENERALLY ATTACHED TO BUSINESSES
THAT HAVE PEOPLE ALREADY WORKING THERE.
LESS CONCERNED OF UNPAID.
IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT UNPAID LATER, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH
THAT.
BUT THIS A TWO-YEAR PROCESS.
I DON'T THINK THAT NOVEMBER 1 st A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THE
LAST MAJOR ISSUE YBOR CITY WAS HALLOWEEN.
IF WE WAIT UNTIL AFTER HALLOWEEN, WE ARE OPENING OURSELVES
UP TO ANOTHER ISSUE.
I CAN'T DO THAT IN GOOD CONSCIOUS.
OCTOBER 1 IS A BETTER COMPROMISE.
PARKING LOT OPERATORS KNEW THIS WAS COMING FOR YEARS.
NOT A SURPRISE.
THIS IS NOT NEW.
NOT SCRAMBLING TO GET THIS DONE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PLANNING TO GET THIS DONE, I AM SORRY.
BECAUSE YOU KNEW THIS WAS COMING.
YOU GOT ADDITIONAL TIME BECAUSE WE DIDN'T APPROVE IT DURING
THE ACTUAL CYCLE WHICH IS IN JULY.
AND I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT AT ALL UP WANT TO APPROVE IT
WITH THE CHANGES THAT MESS FEELEY MADE.
AND I WILL READ THE ORDINANCE AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
ORDINANCE OF CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA -- AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE
A DISCUSSION AFTER SECOND --
05:44:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
FIRST OF ALL, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL
OPEN.
05:45:01PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:45:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
05:45:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM --
05:45:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MAYBE YOU CAN KEEP IT OPEN UNTIL YOU HAVE
ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
05:45:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:45:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS.
MR. BAILEY, COULD YOU -- COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION?
I THINK -- I THINK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY -- NOT TO PUT
WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH -- BUT NEIGHBORS' NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND
WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE ANY NEW -- TALKING ABOUT GOING
FORWARD.
NOT TO HAVE ANY NEW PARKING LOTS.
BUT THE CITY -- KIND OF THE COMPROMISE TO PUT THE
REQUIREMENTS IN.
HAS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPROVED THIS?
OR ARE YOU OKAY WITH GOING FORWARD WITH THE RULES AND
REQUIREMENTS?
05:45:47PM >> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I AM A BOARD MEMBER ON THE ASSOCIATION.
WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH.
YOU HEARD FROM US MANY TIMES BEFORE.
WE HAVE SEEN THIS LANGUAGE AND WORKED WITH STAFF THROUGH THE
PROCESS.
THE POINT THAT I MADE TONIGHT IS THE -- THE NUANCE -- THE
THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS LOOKING FOR.
BUT ALL IN ALL, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD.
05:46:09PM >>BILL CARLSON:
WE ARE NOT -- MY QUESTION IS WE ARE NOT
BANNING NEW -- SOME OF THESE RULES ARE APPLIED EXISTING.
WE ARE NOT BANNING NEW PARKING LOTS.
SOMEONE CAN BUILD A NEW PARKING LOT UNDER THESE GUIDELINES.
ARE YOU TO OKAY WITH THAT?
05:46:26PM >> THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THERE IS A SPECIAL USE REQUIREMENT
AND HAS TO GO IN FRONT OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT IS A PUBLIC PROCESS.
FOR SOME REASON THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED TO GET BEHIND A NEW
PARK LOG LOT FOR SOME REASON, WE COULD DO THAT.
05:46:39PM >>BILL CARLSON:
OKAY.
05:46:43PM >> TAKES AWAY FROM OUR USE OF RIGHT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:46:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THIS IS FOR ABBYE FEELEY.
MAYBE SUSAN, I AM NOT SURE WITH.
THE NUANCE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT MR. BAILEY DISCUSSED
.WHAT IS THE CITY IMPLICATION OF CHANGING THAT LANGUAGE?
05:47:01PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
SO -- ABBYE FEELEY.
RIGHT NOW THIS IS THE STATEMENT.
WE HAVE BEEN CALLED AT THE RELATIONSHIP OF WHAT HAPPENED IN
2010.
WHERE IS THE SIX MONTHS.
THAT -- THAT STATEMENT THAT IS BEING PLACED IN THERE IS THE
CONFORMING LOT STATEMENT FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAS RECEIVED A
PERMIT UP UNTIL THE DATE OF THE IMPLICATION OF THE NEW CODE.
SO THAT IS WHAT -- YOU CAN'T SAY "PUBLIC HEARING" BECAUSE IT
IS NOT GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL AFTER YOU APPROVE
THIS CODE.
05:47:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
AFTER WE APPROVE THIS CODE, IT WILL BE A
PUBLIC HEARING.
05:47:44PM >>ABBYE FEELEY:
EVERY NEW LOT.
UNLESS YOU HAVE THE BLC PERMIT AND MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS.
SOME UNDER CODE ENFORCEMENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT IF
THEY DON'T -- THEY MAY HAVE NOW GOTTEN A C.A. THROUGH
THE BLC, BUT UNTIL THEY GO AND INSTALL WHAT IS IN THAT C.A.
COME NOVEMBER 1 IF THAT IS THE DATE YOU SELECT, THEY ARE NOT
GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
C.A. DOES NOT MAKE NEW COMPLIANCE.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE GOTTEN
APPROVAL TO HAVE.
THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
YOU GOT YOUR BLC'S APPROVAL.
YOU MADE THE IMPROVEMENTS AND NORTHBOUND OPERATION.
AND AS OF -- IF YOU ARE GOING WHATEVER THE DATE IS, YOU ARE
CONFORMING AND THAT DRAWS YOUR LINE TO SAY, ANYBODY ELSE WHO
COMES IN, YOU ARE COMING TO THIS COUNCIL.
THERE IS NO OTHER ROUTE FOR YOU.
YOU ARE NOW A SPECIAL USE AND COMING TO THIS COUNCIL.
GO TO PUBLIC HEARING AND BLC FOR RECOMMENDATION LIKE YOU
WOULD ON A REZONING OR ANOTHER SPECIAL USE.
IT WILL COME TO YOU AND YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
05:48:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THANK YOU.
MR. BAILEY, DOES THAT ANSWER -- SATISFY YOU?
05:48:56PM >> THE CLEAREST -- I UNDERSTAND WHAT MISS FEELEY IS
SAYING.
AND I BELIEVE HER WHEN SHE SAYS THAT, THE CLEAREST EXAMPLE
WHERE THINGS WENT WRONG ARE THE BLUE RIBBON PARK LOG THE --
PARKING LOT.
THAT IS THE PROCESS.
THERE WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL AT SOME TIME IN THE
PAST NOT A PUBLIC HEARING I WAS AWARE OF.
AND MR. MICHELINI MAY KNOW BETTER THAN I DO.
05:49:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU TALK TO US.
JASON, HOLD ON.
05:49:28PM >> HERE IS MY POINT.
THE -- ANY SUBSEQUENT APPROVALS TO THAT LOT OVER TIME, SO
WHETHER IT IS THE 2010 APPROVAL OR THE 2023 APPROVAL, THOSE
ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS ARE CIRCUMVENTING THE PUBLIC
PROCESS.
WE DON'T GET TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING APPROVED
ADMINISTRATIVELY, THAT IS WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THE BY
PUBLIC HEARING CLENDENIN YOU THIS SAY APPLICABLE.
IF WE PASS THIS TONIGHT, ALL NEW PARKING LOTS -- WHATEVER
HAPPENED IN THE PAST WON'T MATTER.
IF I AM HEARING MISS FEELEY CORRECT, ALL NEW PARKING LOTS
WILL BE SUBJECT WITH PUBLIC HEARING.
05:50:05PM >> THE LANGUAGE WE ARE SUBMITTED, ALL PRINCIPAL PARKING LOTS
THAT RECEIVED A BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION BLC APPROVAL AS OF
SEPTEMBER 5, 2024, AND HAVE CONTINUED TO OPERATE IN
ACCORDANCE WITH THE BLC APPROVAL WILL BE CONSIDERED
CONFORMING WITH THE SUBSECTION.
THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TAKING OBJECTION.
CLENDENIN OKAY, THANK YOU.
05:50:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:50:30PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I A--
05:50:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
LET ME -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK -- SOME OF
THE STUFF I HEARD.
IT IS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
SOME OF THIS IS -- SO I AM NOT -- I AM NOT TERRIBLY
EMPATHETIC OF THE WATER METER THAT YOU REFERRED TO.
YOU HEARD MY POINT ON SIGN CLUTTER.
I AM 100% EMPATHETIC OF TYPES OF PARKING LOTS.
AND, YOU KNOW WHAT, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS ARE
INCREMENTAL.
WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
I GET THAT.
AND I BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID THE SAME THING.
LET'S START SOME PLACE.
WE CAN START HERE AND IF WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OTHER
PARKING LOTS, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
STAFF HAS PUT A LOT OF TIME IN THIS.
VERY ACCOMMODATING.
THIS HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT.
THIS IS A BIG PUBLIC CONCERN.
AND YBOR CITY IS A -- IT IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
IT IS AN IMPORTANT ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
IT IS ONE OF OUR CROWN JEWELS.
ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO IMPROVE THAT AND THE SAFETY AND
ENJOYMENT OF THE AREA, I AM ALL FOR IT.
05:51:43PM >> IF I COULD MAKE ONE COMMENT.
05:51:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
LET ME GO THROUGH THE DAIS.
COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:51:50PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WANTED TO SPEAK -- ONCE WE CLOSE GET MY
THOUGHTS ON IT, ETC.
ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST AND COUNCILMAN HURTAK, YOUR POINT
IS VERY WELL TAKEN ON HALLOWEEN.
MAYBE SINCE THERE IS AN ASSERTED NEED FOR MORE TIME.
MAYBE OCTOBER 25 WHICH IS THAT FRIDAY.
SO, AGAIN, YOUR POINT OF HALLOWEEN IS VERY WELL TAKEN.
MAYBE THE WEEK BEFORE.
05:52:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HOW ABOUT THE MIDDLE, BECAUSE THE -- THE
PROBLEM IS IF YOU START IT -- THAT IS WHEN THEY WILL
CELEBRATE.
SO HOW ABOUT OCTOBER 15?
05:52:22PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING AT.
AGAIN, I WILL GIVE MY COMMENTS ONE WE CLOSE.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
05:52:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:52:30PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I WILL MAKE MY COMMENTS BEFORE WE CLOSE, BUT
I WOULD RATHER NOT VOTE ON A FLAWED -- WHAT I THINK IS A
FLAWED DOCUMENT.
I THINK THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH IT THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
BE WORKED OUT LATER.
THE ISSUES IN YBOR THAT -- THE ISSUES IN YBOR ARE MUCH
BIGGER THAN PARKING LOTS.
AND WE KNOW WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF POLICE.
WE KNOW WE HAVE A FUNDING ISSUE.
WE HAVE GOT TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE CONDUCT PUBLIC SAFETY
IN YBOR.
AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF THAT,
BUT THAT IS A BIGGER STRATEGY WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE
PARKING LOT.
I PERSONALLY HAVE SEEN A VIDEO ON SOMEONE'S PRIVATE LOT THAT
IS NOT A PAID LOT, WHERE THERE WAS A DRIVE-BY SHOOTING AND
THIS ONE WAS NOT PUBLICIZED.
ONE OF THEM HAPPENED THE SAME NIGHT ON HALLOWEEN BUT NOT IN
THE PAID LOTS.
EVEN IF WE HAVE SHOOTING IN THE PAID LOTS, THAT SHOOTING
HAPPENS AGAIN BECAUSE NOBODY IS GUARDING THE OTHER LOTS.
WE NEED A SYSTEMIC WAY OF RESOLVING THIS.
AND ALSO, IT DOESN'T DO GOOD TO PULL POLICE OFF HOWARD
AVENUE AND PUT THEM IN YBOR OR PULL THEM OUT OF YBOR AND PUT
THEM ON HOWARD AVENUE.
WE NEED CONSISTENT POLICING THROUGHOUT.
AND WE NEED TO OVERALL ADDRESS THE SHORTAGE ISSUE.
I WISH WE COULD WORK CLOSER FOR UNDERLYING ISSUE.
SHOULD I MAKE A MOTION TO ALLOW MICHELINI TO RESPOND OR -- I
WILL MAKE MOTION TO HAVE HIM -- YOU GUYS CAN VOTE ON IT.
I MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE HIM RESPOND FOR ONE MINUTE.
05:54:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COME UP FOR 60 SECONDS.
05:54:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NOBODY SECONDED IT.
05:54:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
THIS ANY OPPOSED?
05:54:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
NAY.
05:54:26PM >> MY ONLY POINT IS YOU -- STEVE MICHELINI.
THEY JUST ASKED ME A QUESTION?
05:54:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
LISTEN --
05:54:34PM >> I AM NOT GOING TO GO TIT FOR TAT WITH YOU.
YOU MADE SEVERAL REVISIONS FOR THIS.
WHY DON'T YOU CONSIDER PAID AND UNPAID LOTS AS PART OF THESE
REVISIONS.
YOU JUST HAD STAFF RECOMMEND FOUR ADDITIONAL CHANGES.
IN JULY, YOU HAD OTHER CHANGES WHERE YOU INSERTED
REQUIREMENTS FOR IRRIGATION.
WHAT IS THE ISSUE HERE?
WE ARE JUST ASKING TO YOU MAKE ACROSS THE BOARD TO MAKE IT
RESPONSIBLE AND FAIR.
THE SECURITY ISSUE IS BROAD.
AND IT IS AN AREA-WIDE ISSUE.
NOT A SINGULAR ISSUE RELATING TO A PAID PARKING LOT.
THANK YOU.
05:55:08PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:55:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION --
05:55:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
I HAVE TO CORRECT MYSELF ON WHAT I SAID
EARLIER.
AS I WAS THINKING BACK.
I FORGOT A MISTAKE MADE WHEN THAT DEAL WAS CONSUMMATED
SEPTEMBER 6, 1996.
IN THE CITY THE DEED OF THE WHOLE PROPERTY TO HILLSBOROUGH
COUNTY -- THE CITY CAN'T WAIVE AD VALOREM TAXES, BUT THE
COUNTY CAN.
I AM SORRY I MADE A MISTAKE.
I HAD TO GO BACK AND REWIRE.
05:55:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION TO FORGIVE.
05:55:41PM >> SECOND.
05:55:42PM >> OPPOSED?
05:55:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION TO CLOSE.
MOTION TO CLOSE.
05:55:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO READ THE ORDINANCE, AND I
WAS INTERRUPTED.
05:55:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
05:55:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, OF
PUBLICLY AMENDMENTS MAKE REGULAR VISIONS TO THE CITY OF
TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES AMENDING CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND LAND
DEVELOPMENT.
AMENDING 27-178, ALTERNATIVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
REPEALING ALL ORDINANCE AND ALL ORDINANCES THEREWITH.
PROVIDING SEVERABILITY.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
INCLUDING THE FOUR REVISIONS AND CHANGING THE DATE FROM
OCTOBER 1 TO OCTOBER 15.
05:56:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A SECOND?
05:56:27PM >>LUIS VIERA:
SECOND.
05:56:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ANY DISCUSSION.
05:56:35PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I WANTED TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS.
I SPOKE TO PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND THE KNOWS LIVE IN
NEIGHBORHOODS, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THEIR ADVOCATES, ETC.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.
I AM GLAD TO SEE THERE IS MORE TIME BEING GIVEN.
IT IS REALLY WELL TAKEN WE HAVE MADE FOUR CHANGES TODAY AND
YOU SAY, LISTEN, DISCUSS THIS FURTHER AND MAKE MORE
REVISIONS BUT I DON'T WANT TO IRREVOCABLY KICK THE CAN DOWN
THE ROAD.
THIS REPRESENTS A REAL CHALLENGE, A CHALLENGE THAT EVERYBODY
IN THIS ROOM ACKNOWLEDGES IS CRIME AND PUBLIC SAFETY IN YBOR
CITY AND THE PROBLEM IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS IT?
THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO WILL DO THEIR CONTROL
ADDRESS IT AND A ROLE TO PLAY FOR BUSINESSES.
I SALUTE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
I KNOW ORDINANCE AND WORKING AND NOT EASY WHEN YOU HAVE
COMPETING SIDES.
AND YOU ARE TRYING TO GET AS MANY FOLKS ON BOARD.
FOR ME, THE MAIN ISSUE IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
I WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD FOR THAT ISSUE.
A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN YBOR CITY.
THIS IS TAILORED FOR THOSE CHALLENGES.
I HEAR OF FOLKS PAID VERSUS UNPAID.
I AM NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT WAS SAID BEFORE BUT I GUESS I
WILL.
DEALING A PAID PARKING LOT, THAT IS WHAT THE ABOUT IS.
A UNPAID PARKING LOT BUSINESS AND MONETARY EFFORT THAT
DRIVES BENEFIT WOULD YOU KNOW THINK FROM THAT UNPAID PARK
LOT, THE POTENTIALLY BUT NOT THE VERY UNIQUE NATURE OF YOUR
BUSINESS.
AND, THEREFORE, I THINK THERE IS MORE OF A RATIONAL BASIS
FOR THAT DISTINCTION HERE.
AGAIN, I HEAR THE CONCERN OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS 100%.
AS WE WORK ON THIS.
IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE CHANGED.
I REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
I TOLD OUR CONTRACTOR FRIENDS, IF THERE ARE THINGS YOU THINK
NEED TO BE CHANGED, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS.
WHEN YOU PASS THE ORDINANCE IT BECOMES THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,
NOT THE SUGGESTIONS BUT WE CAN CHANGE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,
SO TO SPEAK IF THERE IS A DEMONSTRATED CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO
BE DONE.
FOR ME IT IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND I HEAR THE CONCERNS OF OUR FRIENDS IN YBOR WHO LIVE OUT
THERE WANTED TO MAKE YBOR CITY LIVABLE, WALKABLE, 100%
QUALITY, IT INCLUDES THE BUSINESS AND PROPERTY.
EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM AGREES WITH THAT.
A RESPECTFUL DISAGREEMENT OF HOW TO GET THERE.
I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND THAT'S IT.
05:58:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:59:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE QUOTE DO SOMETHING IMPERFECTLY THAN
PERFECTLY.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE DO ON COUNCIL.
MAKING THE DECISIONS, IT IS NEVER BLACK AND WHITE.
FINDING SOME PLACE IN THE GRAY AREA.
LIKE YOU SAID, I AM EMPATHETIC WITH THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF
PARKING LOT AND LOOK IN THE FUTURE OF TRYING TO RESOLVE THAT
DIFFERENCE.
YOU KNOW, I -- I STILL THINK THAT NOVEMBER IS NOVEMBER 1 --
I WANT TO BE AS ACCOMMODATING AS POSSIBLE AND RUNNING A
BUSINESS AND A MILLION OTHER THINGS GOING ON AND DIFFICULT
TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND I UNDERSTAND THE POINT
ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE HOLIDAY, BUT, YOU ARE KNOW, THAT THIS
HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
AND TWO WEEKS MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN A BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO
GET THE JOB DONE, I THINK IT IS A VERY REASONABLE REQUEST.
I GUESS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO
CHANGE TO NOVEMBER 1 TO SEE WHERE IT GOES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS APPETITE ON THAT OR NOT, BUT I
THINK THAT NOVEMBER 1 IS A REASONABLE DATE.
06:00:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN FOR
NOVEMBER 1 INSTEAD OF OCTOBER 15.
IS THERE A SECOND?
A SECOND?
06:00:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
JUST AS I SUSPECTED.
06:00:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL RIGHT.
ANYTHING ELSE?
06:00:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S ALL.
06:00:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY ELSE?
IF NOT, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
YES, SIR.
06:00:22PM >>BILL CARLSON:
AS I SAID, I DOESN'T TO VOTE ON AN IMPERFECT
PLAN.
IF THIS -- IT SOUNDS LIKE IS GOING TO PASS.
AND IT REALLY NEEDS TO EVOLVE AND BE EDITED.
I CAN'T VOTE AGAINST IF IT IS GOING TO BE APPROVED.
I WOULD RATHER NOT VOTE ON A IMPERFECT PLAN BUT NEEDS TO
EVOLVE.
THERE IS A CRIME PROBLEM IN YBOR THAT WE NEED TO BE
RESOLVED.
I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR FOR PEOPLE NOVEMBER 1.
THEY GOT TO GO BEFORE THE BARRIO, RIGHT?
ANYWAY, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE NEED TO DO ON
HALLOWEEN IS GET THE CRA TO PUT IN SOME EMERGENCY MONEY.
I KNOW THE -- SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN YBOR WERE
TRYING GET THE LEGISLATURE TO FUND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
TO PUT PEOPLE THERE, BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T ENOUGH
RESOURCES.
WE HAVE GOT TO DO SOMETHING SYSTEMATICALLY, BECAUSE WE
ACTUALLY HAD A SHOOTING IN AN UNPAID LOT LAST YEAR ON
HALLOWEEN.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT?
06:01:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I THINK WE SHOULD THAT DISCUSSION IN A
WORKSHOP BETWEEN NOW AND HALLOWEEN ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THAT
-- THAT CELEBRATION.
06:01:28PM >>BILL CARLSON:
MY BOTTOM LINE IS I CAN'T VOTE AGAINST IT,
BUT I DON'T LIKE THE DISPARITIES IN HERE AND I PUSH TO
CHANGE THEM RIGHT AWAY.
06:01:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
06:01:44PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED -- DID YOU SAY, NO?
06:01:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
I SAID NO.
06:01:50PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED.
MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
SEPTEMBER 5, 2024, 10:00 A.M., OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
CHAMBERS 315 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA
33602.
06:02:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ITEM NUMBER 4.
06:02:10PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
REZONE 1314 TEMPLE STREET ARE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16 TO --
06:02:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
BEFORE YOU BEGIN, IF YOU WERE GOING TO
SPEAK ON 4, 5, 6 OR 7, PLEASE STAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
[SWEARING IN]
AND WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE REGISTER TODAY ARE ITEM NUMBER 7.
WHEN WE GET TO IT, WE WILL SWEAR THEM IN.
06:02:42PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, REZ-24-43.
REZONE 3814 TEMPLE STREET FROM RM-16 TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY.
TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:03:03PM >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE EAST URBAN VILLAGE.
SOUTH -- SORRY, EAST OF NORTH 50th STREET OR NORTH OF EAST
28th AVENUE.
THERE IS TYPICALLY -- THIS ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL USES, BUT
IT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED WITH SOME VACANT LOTS, SOME
RESIDENTIAL, AND A COMMERCIAL USE UP HERE ON THE CORNER.
AND WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL EAST OF NORTH 50th.
THE FUTURE LAND USE IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
THAT ALLOWS UP TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.
SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU OF RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 18 IS
WELL WITHIN THAT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, WHAT IT HAS BEEN
PLANNING FOR, AND WE HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL-20 AS -- WHICH IS
TYPICALLY -- THIS IS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST OF THE
SITE, EAST OF TEMPLE.
AND THEN RESIDENTIAL-10 TO THE SOUTH.
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 AND MORE COMMUNITY USE 35.
THIS IS GOING TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING OPTIONS.
THAT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 18.
IT GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY TO PLAY WITH, WELL WITHIN
THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE DENSITY.
AND SO WE FOUND THAT IT WAS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE TO
SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND PROVIDE A NICE
TRANSITION AND DENSITY AS ONE MOVES EAST OF THE SITE.
SO THAT IS OUR FINDING.
THANK YOU.
06:04:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YES, SIR.
06:04:26PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AND START OFF WITH OUR AERIAL MAP.
HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE OUTLINED IN RED OFF OF TEMPLE
STREET.
AND THEN YOU HAVE NORTH 50th STREET TO THE WEST.
THERE IS A LOT ZONED CG TO THE SOUTH OF IT AND A FEW MORE CG
LOTS SOUTH OF THAT.
MOVE TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
CI USE ALONG HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
AND THAT WHOLE SECTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE IS RM-16.
NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WE HAVE SING SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED HOUSES.
SAME WITH OVER HERE.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A COMMERCIAL USE.
SEMI-DETACHED AND ATTACHED USE ALONG THE SIDE HERE.
AND TO THE WEST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 50th STREET.
THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT -- IT MAY BE FAMILIAR FOR YOU,
REZONED NOT TOO LONG AGO FOR A FUNERAL HOME AND CEMETERY.
SINCE THIS IS EUCLIDIAN, THERE ARE NO SITE PLANS OR
ELEVATION SO AS WE WILL GO INTO THE PICTURES.
IN IS LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE SUBJECT SITE FROM TEMPLE
STREET.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST.
LITTLE BETTER VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS SOUTH ON TEMPLE STREET.
THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
LOOKING NORTH.
SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST ACROSS THE STREET.
YOU CAN SEE THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES.
THIS IS JUST NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE.
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
THIS IS THE CG LOT JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE.
THESE ARE SOME OF THE DETACHED AND SEMI DETACHED USES ON THE
MAP ALL ON THE SAME BLOCK AS THE SUBJECT SITE.
AT THE VERY END OF THE SUBJECT BLOCK, IT SHOW IT IS AS
VACANT ON THE AERIAL MAP, BUT A NEW CONSTRUCTION OF SYMPHONY
DETACHED USES.
THIS IS ONCE WE ROUND THE CORNER ALONG 50th STREET.
THE ENACT THE SUBJECT SITE IS RIGHT HERE LOOKING DIRECTLY AT
THE BACK OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT THROUGH
THE VEGETATION BUT WANT TO GIVE YOU A LOOK AT WHAT IT LOOKS
LIKE ON TEMPLE AND 50th AND LOOKING ACROSS WEST ON 50th
TOWARD THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF FOUND THE
REQUEST CONSISTENT.
FOUR DWELLING UNITS CAN BE CONSIDERED ON THE FLIGHT OF THE
RESIDENTIAL 18 ZONING DISTRICT.
REQUESTED DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN OF THE SURROUND AREA AND APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION AND
PROVIDE INFILL HOUSING.
LASTLY THE SUBJECT SITE IF IS IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY
DEVELOPMENT AND MUST COMPLY WITH THE OVERLAY STANDARDS AT
THE TIME OF PERMITTING I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
QUESTIONS OF MANISCALCO ANY QUESTIONS?
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
COME ON UP.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:07:22PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
06:07:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HELLO.
06:07:27PM >> HI.
MY NAME IS MARIA CULEY, AND I AM THE APPOINTED AGENT.
AS WE STATED, WE WANTED TO DO REZONING OF THE PROPERTY
FROM RM-16 TO RM-18.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING.
06:07:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYTHING ELSE?
06:07:46PM >> THAT'S IT.
06:07:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH SPEAK ON ITEM
NUMBER 4?
06:07:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MOTION TO CLOSE.
06:07:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
SECOND.
06:07:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
READ ITEM NUMBER 4.
06:08:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NUMBER REZ-24-43.
ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING RECONSIDERATION.
GENERAL VICINITY OF 3614 TEMPLE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE
CLENDENIN SECOND.
06:08:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
BE OPPOSED?
06:08:30PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 5,
2024 AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS CITY HALL, 315
E. KENNEDY, THIRD,FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
06:08:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ITEM NUMBER 5.
06:08:51PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, REZ-24-46, FROM 5825 SOUTH 5th STREET
FROM RS-06.
06:09:06PM >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
COMMISSION STAFF.
WE ARE IN SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT RIGHT NOW NORTH OF
BETWEEN AND SOUTH IS IT 6th AND ALONG SOUTH 5th.
INTERBAY HAS A VARIETY OF USES THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL.
AND AT THE INTERSECTION OF MacDILL YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL IN
THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
AND LAND USE AS RESIDENTIAL-10.
THE ORANGE COLOR.
TO THE SOUTH IS RESIDENTIAL-20.
I SAW SOME HOUSING ON THAT.
AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 ALONG SOUTH MacDILL, WHICH
ALLOWED FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
WE REVIEWED THIS AND FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE RESIDENTIAL-10 LAND USE DESIGNATION ALLOWS FOR A VARIETY
OF LOT WIDTH AND LOT SIZES AND THIS STREET HAS DEVELOPED
ABOUT HALF OF THEIR ALLOWABLE DENSITY UNDER THE FUTURE LAND
USE.
AND AS ONE OF THE CITIES PLANS, GOALS, IS TO PROVIDE HOUSING
OPTION FOR TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION AND UNDERUTILIZED
SITES.
WE FOUND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE POLICIES AS WELL AS
COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT
PATTERN PER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU.
06:10:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:10:34PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
WE WILL HAVE THE AERIAL MAP UP AND WE WILL GET STARTED.
THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED ALONG SOUTH 5th STREET.
YOU KIND OF HAVE A HODGEPODGE OF RS-50 AND RS-06 ZONING ON
5th STREET NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
SMALL RS-60 AND TRANSITIONS TO RS-60 SOUTH.
RS-50.
AND ACROSS THE STREET IS RS-50 AND UTILIZED FOR MULTIFAMILY.
AS YOU MENTIONED WE GO OVER TO MacDILL AND INTERBAY, YOU
HAVE CG USES.
WE WILL GO THROUGH PICTURES OF SITE PLAN.
IS IN LOOKING WEST DIRECTLY AT THE SUBJECT SITE.
OF LOOKING NORTH ALONG NORTH 5th STREET OF THE SUBJECT SITE
HERE THIS LOOKING EAST, THE MULTIFAMILY ACROSS THE STREET.
NORTH ON FIFTH STREET.
SOME OF THOSE RS-50 LOTS.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHWEST.
THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
IT AND HERE IS A BETTER VIEW OF THOSE RS-50 LOTS NORTH OF
THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST.
AND ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET, THIS IS LOOKING
NORTHWEST OF MORE RS-50 LOTS.
SO NOW WE WILL MOVE CONTINUE TO OUR CONFORMING MAP.
ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
IT IS RED.
AND THE BLACK OUTLINE WITH THE HATCHING OVER IT.
I JUST WANT TO WALK THROUGH WHERE THE CONFORMING ANALYSIS
WAS BECAUSE VERY LITTLE OF THE ORIGINAL BLOCK EXISTS DUE TO
REDEVELOPMENT OVER THE TIME.
THE ANALYSIS FOR THE -- THE GRANULAR ANALYSIS ON SOUTH OF
5th STREET TO THE DEAD END AND A GRANULAR ANALYSIS ON 6th
STREET TO LACY COURT.
I WILL RUN THROUGH THAT AND A LITTLE LONG WENDED BUT I WANTS
TO MAKE SURE IT IS AVAILABLE FOR YOU AND THE RECORD.
OF LOT 24 AND LOT 25.
THE SUBDIVISION WAS PLATTED IN OF 1911 AND PLOT FIVE IN
1914.
THE SUBJECT BLOCK REPLATTED WITH 25 LOTS WITH FRONTAGE OF 28
FEET TO 59 FEET IN LENGTH.
AREA OF ANALYSIS 461 PARCELS.
164 PARCELS WITH THE WIDTH OF TO 60 FEET FOR GREATER.
AND A WIDTHS OF 59.99 FEET FOR LESS.
THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH FIFTH STREET FROM INTERBAY TO THE
DEAD END CONSISTS OF 11 PARCELS OF SUBJECT SITE 50 TO 49.99
FEET.
OF THOSE PARCELS EIGHT OR 72% ARE 59.99 FEET OR LESS PER
WIDTH AND THREE OF THE PARCELS ARE 27% AND 60 FEET AND
GREATER IN WIDTH.
THE EAST SIDE OF 5th STREET FROM INTERBAY TO THE DEAD END
CONTAIN SIX PARCELS TO THE DEAD END LOT WITT OF 55 TO 49.99
FEET.
OF THAT 100% OF THE PARCELS ARE LESS THAN 50 FEET IN WIDTH.
ONE BLOCK TO THE SUBJECT SITE OF SOUTH 6th STREET, WE ARE
LOOKING AT THE EAST SIDE FROM INTERBAY BOULEVARD TO LACY
LEAF COURT.
IT CONTAINS 14 PARCELS AND WIDTH FROM 50 TO 99 FEET.
OF THOSE PARCELS TEN OR 71% ARE 59.99 FEET LESS IN WIDTH AND
29% ARE 60 FOOT FOR GREATER.
STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THAT 64% OF THE PARCELS WITH 59.99 FEET
OR LESS.
AND DUE TO THAT WITHIN THE STUDY AREA, STAFF FINDS IT
CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:14:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
APPLICANT?
06:14:52PM >> MR. SHELBY, I HAVE EIGHT COPIES.
06:14:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
HELLO, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:15:01PM >> JOHN LUM, INTERBAY CIRCLE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, PLEASURE TO SEE YOU HERE TONIGHT.
I WILL READ IT TO YOU.
A LOT OF CONCERN THAT THE FOLKS IN THE INDUSTRY HAVE RIGHT
NOW.
AND I WANT TO TALK TO A COUPLE OF LAWYERS AND THEY ASKED ME
-- THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE AMBIGUITIES
WITH THIS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, AS HOUSEKEEPING MATTER.
WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THE SECTOR COURT DECISION BY JUDGE MOE
THAT POTENTIALLY CALLS IN QUESTION THE JURISDICTION OF THIS
BODY TO HEAR AND DECIDE QUASI-JUDICIAL DECISIONS.
I HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY SEVERAL ATTORNEYS KNOWLEDGEABLE THAT
WE SHOULD REQUEST THIS AND PUT IT ON RECORD.
MR. SHELBY, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THIS BODY HAS THE POWER TO
HOLD THIS HEARING AND MAKE DECISIONS ON THIS QUASI JUDICIAL
HEARING TONIGHT?
06:15:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, COUNCIL
ATTORNEY.
I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY CATE WELLS TO BE
ABLE TO RESPOND ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.
06:16:03PM >>CATE WELLS:
CATE WELLS, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
I BELIEVE ANDREA ZELMAN, THE CITY ATTORNEY ADDRESSED CITY
COUNCIL ON THIS VERY SPECIFIC ISSUE LAST THURSDAY AND
RECOMMENDED THAT CITY COUNCIL CONTINUE HOLDING HEARINGS AS
IT HAS BEEN.
THANK YOU.
06:16:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:16:22PM >> STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
THE STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH THE REVIEW, AND WE FOUND IT TO BE
CONSISTENT ON THE CITY STAFF AS WELL AS THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION LAND USE AREA.
IT IS A MIX OF DIFFERENT USES AND DIFFERENT VARIETY OF SIZES
OF PROPERTIES IN THE STAFF CORRECTLY POINTED OUT THAT WE
HAVE MULTIFAMILY AS WELL AS SPOTS OF RS-60 IN THE AREA
AND RS-50.
SO IT GOES THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
THE BLOCK FACE, AS THE STAFF POINTED OUT, THE DOMINANT
PATTERN IS RS-50 AND THE REDEVELOPMENT NATIONAL ARE
OCCURRING ARE BUILT ON 50-FOOT LOTS.
THE AREA IS UNDERGOING A LOT OF CHANGES.
BUT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY PLATTED AT 50 FEET.
THE DEPTH OF THESE LOTS ARE FAIRLY DEEP.
THEY ARE 150 FEET DEEP AND THE REQUIREMENT UNDER RS-50.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY 7500-SQUARE-FOOT EACH.
BOTH ARE IN TOTAL.
THE INTERBAY THE SOUTH MacDILL AREA IS AN ACTIVE AREA THAT
WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH.
WE DO NOT RECEIVE ANY CALLS OR ANYTHING REGARDING THIS
PETITION.
PROPOSED REZONING WILL ALLOW THE CONSIDERATION OF TWO
SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES.
AND THE LOTS ARE APPROXIMATELY 50 FEET MATCHING THE EXISTING
LOT THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR INTRODUCING A NEW DEVELOPMENT AREA.
AND THE STAFF HAD POINTED THAT OUT.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ALL THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS THAT THE
STAFF CITED AS BEING APPROPRIATE AND CONSISTENT AND RECEIVED
AND FILED AND MADE PART OF THE RECORD.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM AND IF YOU RECEIVE AND FILE THE
REPORT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
06:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
ITEM NUMBER 5?
I SEE NO ONE, AND A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN TO CLOSE AND
SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:18:44PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENT TODAY ARE FIRST
READING CONSIDERATION.
ORDINANCE IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 5825 SOUTH 5th STREET
IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
IN SECTION ONE FROM ZONING CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:19:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA:
SECOND.
06:19:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSED?
06:19:09PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION SEPTEMBER 5, 2024, AT -- SORRY
AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST
KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 3360.
06:19:31PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
REZ-24-46 FROM RS-60 TO RR-50.
TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER.
06:19:45PM >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.
THIS IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
THIS IS REALLY ZOOMED IN, BUT WE ARE WEST OF N. BOULEVARD.
RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS WEST ROSS AVENUE.
-- NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE RIGHT HERE.
AND WE HAVE THE RIVER AND SOME VACANT LOTS AND THIS
WONDERFUL BEAUTIFUL NEW ROUNDABOUT TO THE SOUTH.
THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL-10.
THIS -- THESE TWO LOTS TO THE NORTH DARKER BROWN IS
RESIDENTIAL-20.
IF THAT LOOKS FAMILIAR TO YOU, IT IS BECAUSE IT WAS A PLAN
AMENDMENT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
THIS IS RESIDENTIAL-35 EAST OF N. BOULEVARD WHICH IS ALSO AN
URBAN VILLAGE, BUT THE SITE IS NOT WITHIN THE URBAN VILLAGE
AND A LITTLE DENSER NORTH OF EAST BOULEVARD.
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
AND RELATIONAL MIX 100 TO THE SOUTH WHICH IS THE AMATEUR
WORKS DEVELOPMENT.
WE FOUND IN CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
ENCOURAGE INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA THAT IS
UNDERUTILIZE.
WE ARE LOOKING AT EXISTING DENSITY OF AND PLANNED FOR 10.
TO ALLOWING THIS ZONING WILL ALLOW US TO UTILIZE THAT LAND
MORE EFFECTIVELY AND PROVIDE MORE HOUSING FOR TAMPA GROWING
POPULATION AND THE UNDERUTILIZATION OF THOSE SITES.
I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU.
06:21:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
YES, SIR.
06:21:19PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAMUEL THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
THE AERIAL MAPS.
YOU SEE THE SUBJECT SITE HERE IN RED.
THE SURROUNDING AREA IS LARGELY RS-60.
TO THE SOUTH IT SAYS RO-1.
A MISTAKE ON OUR MAPS THAT HAVE BEEN CORRECT.
PART OF THE PD-A.
HEIGHTS BOULEVARD.
OUR MAPS WERE NOT UPDATED BEFORE BUT THEY ARE UPDATED NOW.
NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, A PD FOR TWO SINGLE-FAMILY
DETACHED HOMES.
AS JEN MENTIONED A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT NOT TOO LONG AGO AND
A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR SEMI DETACHED USES AND THE REST OF
THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS RS-60 ABOUT WITH A FEW POCKETS OF RS-50
AND THIS SIDE OF N. BOULEVARD YOU HAVE MULTIFAMILY USES.
WE WILL GO INTO PICTURES OF THE SITE NOW.
SO THIS IS LOOKING -- KINDS OF A PICTURES BECAUSE THE SITE
IS RATHER LARGE.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON GLENWOOD DRIVE.
THIS IS ALL THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON GLENWOOD TOWARD ROSS.
THIS IS MOVING FARTHER DOWN GLENWOOD.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
MOVED A LITTLE FARTHER DOWN, AND NOW YOU CAN SEE THE
SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
LOOKING FROM GLENWOOD STILL.
AND THIS GIVES YOU THE FULL VIEW.
ROSS IS OVER HERE AND GLENWOOD, THE SUBJECT SITE GOES FROM
HERE ALL THE WAY TO WHERE THAT WHITE FENCE IS.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST ON GLENWOOD.
YOU CAN SEE SOME NEW DEVELOPMENT JUST NORTH OF THE SUBJECT
SITE.
THIS IS INTERIOR TO THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING THAT THE HOUSE
YOU JUST SAW ON THE FOREGROUND BEFORE.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST ACROSS GLENWOOD.
THIS IS THE PARK BUTTERFLY GARDEN AND NEW EXTENSION OF THE
RIVERWALK AND ZOOMED IN PICTURE AND YOU CAN SEE THE
DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ON THE SORE SIDE OF GLENWOOD.
NEW CONSTRUCTION.
GLENWOOD AND NEW CONSTRUCTION BEING BELT CURRENTLY THERE AND
THIS IS LOOKING BACK TO THE SUBJECT SITE NORTH OF GLENWOOD.
WE MOVED OVER TO ROSS AVENUE NOW.
THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON ROSS AVENUE TOWARD THE HEIGHTS
REDEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
AND THEN SOME NEW CONSTRUCTION NEXT TO IT.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH TOWARD GLENWOOD DRIVE OVER HERE.
THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS IS ROSS AVENUE.
AND NOW, WE ARE LOOKING WEST ON ROSS AVENUE WITH THE
INTERSECTION OF GLENWOOD AND ROSS AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT
SITE.
SO NOW WE WILL GO ON TO THE CONFORMING MAP.
SO YOU HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
THE GRANULAR ANALYSIS.
WE LOOKED AT GLENWOOD DRIVE ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE
BETWEEN PARK AND LOSS.
AND THIS.
AND TOWARD ROSS AVENUE AND THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN A LITTLE
BIT DIFFERENT AND WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE ANALYSIS
AND ON THE ORIGINAL BLOCK, WE LOOKED BETWEEN GLENWOOD AND N.
BOULEVARD IN THE TWO PARCELS THAT ARE ORIENTED TOWARD NORTH
AVENUE.
I WILL GO THROUGH THE ANALYSIS NOW.
SO THE SUBJECT SITE IS PART OF THE RIDGEWOOD PARK
SUBDIVISION, BLOCK D, LOTS 11 AND 12.
THE SUBDIVISION IS PLAT WITH 13 BLOCKS.
THE SUBJECT BLOCK THREE IS WILDFIRE FRONTAGES RANGES FROM 55
FEET TO 74 FEET.
THE AREA ANALYSIS INCLUDED 180 PARCELS, 69 OF THOSE PARCEL
TO ARE 39% ARE DEVELOPED WITH THE WIDTH OF 60 FOOT AND 111
PARCELS 61% WIDTH OF 59.99 OR LESS.
BLOCKS EAST AND WEST OF NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE BETWEEN WEST
PARK AVENUE ARE COMPRISED OF BLOCKS D AND E.
ON THE EAST SIDE OF GLENWOOD BLOCK D INCLUDE THREE PARCELS
EXCLUDING THE SUBJECT SITE ALL FRONTING -- FOUR PARCELS,
THREE OF THEM EXCLUDING THE SUBJECT SITE FRONTING NORTH
GLENWOOD DRIVE.
OF THESE THREE PARCELS 1,000% OF THE LOT WIDTH BETWEEN 55
AND 59.99 FEET.
AND CONTAINS FIVE PARCELS AT NORTH GLENWOOD AND 100% OF
THOSE LOT WIDTH ARE BETWEEN 55 AND 59.99 FEET OPINION NORTH
GLENWOOD AND N. BOULEVARD, THERE ARE THREE PARCELS ORIENTED
TOWARD WEST ROSS.
THREE OR 100% OF THOSE PARCELS WITH LOT WIDTH LESS THAN
54.99.
52% HAVE LOT WIDTH BETWEEN 50 AND 54.99 AND BETWEEN 45 AND
49.99 FEET.
MOVING TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SUBJECT BLOCK, ON NORTH
GLENWOOD AND N. BOULEVARD, CONTAIN TWO PARCELS FRONTING WEST
PARK AVENUE.
OF TWO THOSE PARCELS OR 100% LOT WIDTH BETWEEN 70 AND 74.
AND DEVELOPED WITH THE LOT WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS AND
HAVE DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING IS CONSISTENT
WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE OVERALL STUDY
AREA.
I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
06:26:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPLICANT.
06:26:47PM >> GOOD EVENING, SHANE O'NEIL.
804 WEST PARK AVENUE.
I WILL MAKE MINE SHORT AND SWEET.
SUBJECT LOTS WITH THE RED DOT HERE.
WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THIS EXACT SAME REZONING HERE IN THIS
CORNER OF AMELIA AND GLENWOOD ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
2501, 2503 NORTH GLENWOOD, RS-50 AND RS-60.
MY PERSONAL HOME AND A HOUSE NEXT DOOR.
WE DID A PD.
WE ASKED TO DO THE RS-60 TO RS-50.
ALONG GLENWOOD, MOST HOMES EVEN THOUGH THE LOTS ARE RS-60,
THEY ARE LESS THAN 60 FEET WIDE.
FOR THAT REASON THIS IS RIGHT ON LINE WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING
HERE.
MOBLEY HOMES IS IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE SAME REZONING
FROM RS-60 TO RS-50 ON THE DOUBLE LOT HERE ON THE CORNER.
THAT IS MY PRESENTATION.
06:27:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
ANYBODY?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 6.
06:28:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:28:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NO ITEM 7.
MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
A SECOND?
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
ANY OPPOSE?
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, ITEM NUMBER 6.
06:28:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FILE NUMBER REZ-24-48.
ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION REZONING PROPERTY
IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2201 NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE IN THE
CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
06:28:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
06:28:41PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 5,
2024 AT 10:00 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD
FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602.
06:28:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT, LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT.
06:29:02PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAM THOMAS -- HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE THE LAST
ITEM OF THE NIGHT.
REZ-24-51 TO REZONE 701, 705 AND 80 1 EAST WILMA STREET FROM
RESIDENTIAL 6 0 TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
06:29:24PM >>JENNIFER MALONE:
JENNIFER MALONE FROM PLANNING COMMISSION
STAFF.
WE ARE IN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT.
WEST OF NEBRASKA AVENUE.
EAST OF NORTH BUSCH STREET.
WE ARE KIND OF RIGHT AT THIS INTERCHANGE.
THIS IS SHOWING VACANT ON MY AERIAL BUT IT HAS BEEN
DEVELOPED.
SAM WILL SHOW PICTURES I AM SURE NEXT.
THE AERIAL IS A TOUCH OUTDATED.
THIS IS MULTIFAMILY.
WE, OF COURSE, HAVE COMMERCIAL USE NORTH OF NEBRASKA AND
SOME RESIDENTIAL UNITS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
THIS LOOK LIKES A CAR LOT HERE AT THE CORNER.
TWO FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL-20, WHICH IS THE BROWN COLOR AND
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 WHICH IS RED.
PROBABLY WHY IT HAS TWO ZONING DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW.
THE APPLICATION TO BRING IN ONE ZONING DISTRICT AND THE
REQUEST OF THE ZONING DISTRICT CONSISTENT WITH BOTH THE
FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 DOES ALLOW FOR PRETTY INTENSIVE
COMMERCIAL USES, BUT WE THINK OF PUTTING THE RESIDENTIAL
MULTIFAMILY 18 HERE WOULD BE REALLY SENSITIVE AND COMPATIBLE
FOR INTERSTATE 20 TO THE NORTH.
THAT WILL PROVIDE THE NICE TRANSITION AS WELL AS TO THE
MULTIFAMILY TO THE EAST.
COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PLAN DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT HERE WE
WILL STATE FOR THE RECORD THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
HAS ENHANCED ORIENTED DESIGN.
SEEKS A CERTAIN DESIGN AND WE ASK THAT THE APPLICANT MEET
WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS EUCLIDIAN, BUT AT PERMITTING, JUST
MEET WHAT THEY CAN.
WITH THAT, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THANK YOU.
MANISCALCO YES, SIR.
06:31:16PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS:
SAMUEL THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
I WON'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THE AERIAL MAP BECAUSE JEN
COVERED IS IT AS WELL.
THE MAP IS A LITTLE OUTDATED.
SO IS OURS.
THERE WE GO.
THE UPDATED AREA WHAT IS BEEN DEVELOPED RECENTLY AND THEN GO
BACK TO THE ZONING MAP.
06:31:52PM >> YOU CAN SEE THESE TWO PARCELS ARE ZONED CN CURRENTLY AND
A SMALL NONCONFORMING LOT RS-60.
TO THE NORTH RS-60 AND A SMALL POCKET OF RS-50, THE CI
AND CG IN THIS AREA HAVE THE MULTIFAMILY ON IT.
AND YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL USE ALONG NEBRASKA THAT AS JEN SAID.
ALONG BUSH, IG ZONING AND BACK UP TO 275.
I WILL GO IN AND SHOW SOME PICTURES NOW.
SO THIS IS LOOK CAN SOUTHEAST AT THE SUBJECT SITE FROM
WILMA.
THIS IS A VIEW OF THAT MULTIFAMILY THAT WAS DEVELOPED NEXT
TO THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING SOUTHWEST ON WILMA LOOKING
TOWARD INTERSTATE 275 AND YOU CAN SEE HOW LONG THE SUBJECT
SITE IS.
I WILL ZOOM OUT SOME.
THERE WE GO.
SO THIS IS LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE SUBJECT SITE.
275 IN THE FOREGROUND THERE.
THIS IS LOOKING WEST TOWARD THE DEAD END OF WILMA.
THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES ON THE OTHER SIDE.
HERE IS A BETTER LOOK AT THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES.
NOW WE ARE LOOKING BACK TOWARD NEBRASKA AVENUE AT THE
SUBJECT SITE HERE.
MOVED A LITTLE FARTHER EAST.
YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
A LITTLE BETTER OF THE VIEW ON MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT
SITE.
SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOME.
GIVES YOU A VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE ALMOST IN ITS ENTIRE
LENGTH ON THE SITE OF WILMA AND PEEK OVER THE FENCE TO GIVE
YOU A BETTER VIEW OF THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ABUTTING.
ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS
IN THE LAST PICTURE, THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND STAFF FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH A
MAXIMUM OF 14 DWELLING UNITS CONSIDERED ON THE SITE UNDER
THE RESIDENTIAL 18 ZONING DISTRICT.
THE DISTRICT WILL PROVIDE A TRANSITION FROM THE MULTIFAMILY
USES OF THE EAST AND SOUTH TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
OPPORTUNITIES THE NORTH.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
QUESTIONS.
06:34:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO?
APPLICANT.
06:34:21PM >> GOOD EVENING.
I AM JOHN LAROCCA, SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND I
AM THE AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT.
OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS POISED OF
HIM.
AS YOU KNOW A VERY DETAILED REPORT HAS BEEN PREPARED BY THE
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DEPARTMENT WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS
FINDING IT CONSISTENT.
PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE APPLICATION CONSISTENT WITH --
CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THE ADOPTED POLICIES, PLANT POLICIES.
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN
INVOLVED AND BACK TO THE AERIAL.
THIS PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY BEHIND WHAT SAN OLD RAMADA INN AT
THE INTERSECTION OF I-275 AND BUSCH BEAUTIFUL OR THE EASTERN
EDGE OF THE BLOCK IS NEBRASKA.
ONE OF THE PRIMARY CORRIDORS WHERE YOU WILL SEE
OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRANSIT EXPANSION AS TIME MOVES ON.
AND TRANSIT CORRIDORS.
AS A PLANNER AND LONG-TIME PRACTICING PLANNER, I WILL
INDICATE A CLASSIC PLAN THAT IS BEING SOUGHT HERE.
YOU WILL SEE IN ONE OF THE PHOTOS THAT MR. THOMAS PRESENTED
THAT THERE IS CELLULAR COMMUNICATION THAT IS SUBJECT OF THE
REZONING.
THAT TOWER IS ON A MONTH TO MONTH LEASE LAND BE REMOVED WHEN
THIS PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED.
THE APPLICANT AND I MET BEFORE WE MADE THE APPLICATION FOR
THE REZONING.
THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FOR THE AREA IS -- IS A
BROAD CONNECTION OF RESIDENTIAL-20.
FOR WILMA NORTH AROUND WEST OF NEBRASKA WITH COMMUNITY 35
LAND USE.
AND THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS VERY UNIQUE IN THAT IT IS
THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PARCEL AND RS-60 ON THE
SOUTH SIDE OF WILMA THAT BACKS UP TO THE INTERSTATE RAMP
THAT BACKS UP TO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AGAIN, IT IS A CLASSIC TRANSITIONAL ZONE IN THE
RESIDENTIAL-20 LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT IS COMPATIBLE AND
CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE POLICIES.
I WANT TO QUALIFY ONE THING.
THE PROPERTY IS THE WESTERN EDGE OF IT IS A SMALL TRIANGLE.
TO GET DEVELOPER LOTS THAT MEET THE RM-18 SHOULD THE ZONING
BE GRANTED.
THE STANDARDS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE IN THE
REPORT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DEPARTMENT.
THE LAND USE PLAN WILL ALLOW CONSIDERATION OF UP TO 18 OR 20
UNITS TO THE ACRE WHICH WILL CONVERT BASED ON THE LAND AREA
INVOLVED ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE TO EITHER 14 OR 16
UNITS CONCERNING ON THE ZONES YOU ARE APPLYING FOR THE
REALITY OF IT.
AND WE CAN'T TALK OF DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLANS, BUT SIMPLY
UTILIZING THE RM-18 STANDARD EUCLIDIAN GUIDELINES BASED ON
THE CONFIGURATION OF THE LAND AND MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE
PRIMARY USE ALLOWED WILL BE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT UNITS THAT
WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE WE DID THE APPLICATION AND MAKING A
PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS NOT RECTANGULAR AND WITH A TOTAL
FRONTAGE TO ACCOMMODATE MORE UNITS.
I DO KNOW -- I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE AND I WILL
INTRODUCE MYSELF TO THEM DIRECT AND HONEST CONVERSATION OF
INDIVIDUALS THAT TAUGHT VIRTUALLY AND PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY.
THERE IS A LETTER THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED REGARDING SOME
OBJECTIONS AND I BELIEVE -- I DON'T WANT TO INTERPRET THEIR
WORDS BUT I THINK THE OPTIONS ARE DUE TO SOME OTHER PROBLEMS
THAT ARE GOING ON IN TERMS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ISSUES IN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD I CAN TELL YOU FROM THE APPLICANT
PERSPECTIVE, IF THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RM-18.
WILL COMPLY WITH ALL RM-18 GUIDELINES REGARDING PARKING,
SETBACKS, DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO THE CODE.
IF ANYTHING IS PROPOSED ONCE THE APPLICANT GETS INTO THE
DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, IT SHOW IT IS INTO A WISH DONE
OF THOSE CATEGORIES OF USE THAT REQUIRES SPECIAL USE AND
APPROVAL TO COME BACK FOR THOSE KIND OF CONDITIONS.
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS RAISED AND DISCUSSED REQUEST WITH
THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE EAST AND SOUTH WHERE THERE IS ACCESS
TO THIS PROPERTY.
THAT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND THE
APPLICANT HAS NO INTENTIONS OF DOING THAT.
WITH THAT SAID, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
AND I HAVE OTHER GRAPHICS IF WE NEED TO SHOW THEM TO SHOW
EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT FROM MY
PERSPECTIVE, MY EXPERIENCE AND WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT AND
DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION EXCEPTION OF ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
AND REVIEWING THE PROJECT.
EVERYTHING IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS KIND OF ZONING.
THANK YOU.
06:39:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY QUESTIONS?
NO?
ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
IF NOT, TWO REGISTERED SPEAKS ONLINE.
I DON'T SEE ANYBODY IN THE PUB HERE TO SPEAK.
JOEL SNOW AND JOAN CAUSMAN.
PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERAS AND UNMUTE YOURSELVES.
RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SWEAR YOU IN.
[SWEARING IN]
06:40:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YOU ARE MUTED OR SOMEBODY IS MUTED.
06:40:13PM >> CAN YOU HEAR US?
06:40:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND
EVERYTHING ELSE SHE SAID.
06:40:21PM >> YES.
06:40:22PM >> YES.
06:40:23PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
START WITH MR. JOEL SNOW AND JOAN CAUSMAN.
06:40:29PM >> JOEL SNOW.
MANISCALCO YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
06:40:33PM >> THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
PLEASANT CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT -- THE OWNER AND
DEVELOPER.
MR. LAROCCO AND I THINK THE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
PRIMARILY IN WHICH WE SUCCESSFULLY GOT FROM THE -- THAT
FIVE-STORY LOW-INCOME HOUSING.
NO ACCESS TO WILMA STREET.
AS LONG AS -- THAT IS OUR NUMBER ONE THING.
THAT IS ALL.
AND -- GENERALLY SINCE THIS -- AND -- BY THE WAY, AND THE
BUSINESSES ON THE EAST SIDE IS -- YOU KNOW, IT WAS FOUND TO
BE A PROBLEM.
AND BUSINESSES ARE GREAT AND -- WE ENGAGE IN THE MOBILITY
DEPARTMENT AND WITH THE FOLKS AND THEY HAVE DONE AN AWESOME
JOB.
CITY HAS DONE AN AWESOME JOB.
WE STILL HAVE CHALLENGES.
I KNOW THIS MAY NOT BE NECESSARILY RELATED TO THE ZONING BUT
IT IS.
BECAUSE IF WE ADD EVEN MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE AND WHAT IS
HAPPENING WITH STREET PARKING.
IF PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY PARKING ON THE SIDEWALK.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS.
PARKING ON THE SIDEWALK AND BLOCKED ON A REGULAR BASE.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE REAL BOSS.
06:42:16PM >> OUR CONCERN IS JUST THE TRAFFIC FLOW BETWEEN WILMA
AND TALIFERRO.
06:42:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
STATE YOUR NAME.
06:42:38PM >> JOAN CAUSMAN.
06:42:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THAT IT?
06:42:43PM >> YES.
06:42:43PM >> I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.
HELLO MR. SNOW AND MISS CAUSMAN.
WE TALKED A LOT ON THE PHONE.
GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
WE HAVE NOT MET EACH OTHER FACE TO FACE.
ALL I WANT TO SAY IN REBUTTAL AND NOT THE REBUTTAL THE
CONCERNS THAT MR. SNOW AND MISS CAUSMAN HAS RAISED IS
HONESTLY CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHAT YOU IS IT NOT SEE IN THE PHOTOGRAPHY TONIGHT WAS THE
COMMERCIAL AT THE END OF THE BLOCK WHERE IF THERE IS PARKING
ALL OVER THE STREET AND ON THE SIDEWALK IN THE AREA.
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND CUT-THRU TRAFFIC.
CONCERNED ABOUT SPEEDING.
ALL I CAN COMMIT TO IS THIS APPLICANT IS NOT INTENDING TO
CONNECT TO ANYTHING TO THE SOUTH AND EAST TO ALLOW
ADDITIONAL ACCESS.
THESE WILL BE TRADITIONAL ATTACHED OR SEMI DETACHED UNITS
THAT MEET THE RM-18 CODE AND THE APPLICANT DEVELOPER WILL
COMPLY WITH THOSE STANDARDS.
06:43:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:43:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ALL I WANT TO SAY THAT THE FOLKS WHO SPOKE
VIRTUALLY ARE CONTINUING TO HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROBLEMS
-- OR PROBLEMS WITH PARKING THAT -- TO REACH OUT TO MY
OFFICE AND I AM HAPPY TO HELP.
MANISCALCO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
A MOTION TO CLOSE.
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, READ ITEM NUMBER 7.
06:44:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAYBE COUNCILMAN VIERA.
YES, NEVER GET A EUCLIDIAN ZONING.
ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING, GENERAL VICINITY OF 701, 705,
801 EAST WILMA STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, ZONING
CLASSIFICATIONS RS-60, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, AND CN,
COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO RM-18, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE MANISCALCO A MOTION FROM
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED.
06:44:36PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
SECOND READING AND ADOPTION SEPTEMBER 25, 2024, 10:00 A.M.,
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, 3602.
06:44:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
NEW BUSINESS?
COUNCILMAN VIERA, NEW BUSINESS?
06:44:58PM >>LUIS VIERA:
REAL QUICK IF I MAY.
I HAD A COMMENDATION THAT WAS OFF PREMISE.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
06:45:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:45:13PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I HAD ASKED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR
DEPUTY OF INVESTIGATIONS AND SUPPORT.
MR. MICHAEL HUNTER ON HIS RETIREMENT AFTER 26 YEARS OF
SERVICE ON THE AUGUST 22 REGULAR SESSION.
06:45:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
06:45:34PM >>LUIS VIERA:
ASKED BY FOLKS AT THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT TO
GIVE A COMMENDATION NOVEMBER 21 WHERE WE APPEAR TO HAVE AN
EMPTY CALENDAR FOR MR. DAVID ROLAND AS GENERAL COUNCIL TO
OUR 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT.
06:45:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
ANYTHING GOING ON THE 13th JUDICIAL?
06:45:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
YES?
06:46:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE KUDOS TO SENATOR MARK RUBIO AND SENATOR
RICK SCOTT -- I AM JOKING.
THAT IS SELF-DEPRECATING HUMOR.
WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.
[LAUGHTER]
06:46:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THAT IS IT, SIR?
06:46:21PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES.
06:46:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS MONTH IS NATIONAL BLACK BUSINESS MONTH.
AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AND SAY THAT TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT
WE ARE -- WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS MONTH.
AND I JUST WANT TO PAY A SPECIAL TRIBUTE TO THOSE
BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES THAT DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF
TAMPA.
WE WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE YOU.
AND EVERY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE REST OF THE MONTH, I WILL
BE ACKNOWLEDGING BLACK BUSINESS MONTH.
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU, CHAIR.
06:46:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WAS GOING TO RECOGNIZE -- MANY BUSINESSES BUT SPECIFICALLY
THE CDC OF EAST TAMPA AND ALL THEY CONTRIBUTE.
I AM PERSONAL FRIENDS WITH QUITE A FEW INDIVIDUALS THERE.
I DON'T KNOW -- I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A
COMMENDATION OR IN THE FUTURE BUT YOU BROUGHT IT UP WITH THE
MONTH OF AUGUST.
I WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT.
I WANT TO CONGRATULATE MY WIFE ON GETTING ALL As.
SHE IS STUDING FOR HER MASTER'S AT FLORIDA STATE.
06:47:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
EXCELLENT EDUCATION SCHOOL.
06:47:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SHE WANTS TO BE A SCHOOL COUNSELOR.
GIVE HER A SHOUT OUT.
IN ALL -- OFFICIAL BUSINESS, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO --
FOR THE SEPTEMBER 26 WORKSHOP AGENDA FOR THE CITY STAFF TO
PRESENT THE CONCEPTUAL AMENDMENTS FOR THE JULY 2024 TEXT
AMENDMENT CYCLE VIA TAMPA LDC AMENDMENTS.
MANUFACTURE.
06:47:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
MANISCALCO -- YOU DIDN'T TELL ME MICROPHONE.
IS THAT YOUR JOB?
MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
AYES HAVE IT.
06:47:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THAT'S IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
06:48:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU MAY HAVE THE GAVEL BACK.
06:48:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
THANK YOU, SIR.
06:48:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
SANITIZE IT.
06:48:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANY NEW BUSINESS?
06:48:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THE DISCUSSION THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON
BROUGHT UP AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ABOUT YBOR CITY AND
HALLOWEEN.
WE ARE IN BUDGET SEASON.
AND SOME RESOURCES.
WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT PUTTING
RESOURCES TO -- TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A SAFE HALLOWEEN IN
YBOR CITY.
06:48:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I MIGHT SUGGEST YOU TALK TO THE POLICE FIRST.
LIKE JUST OFFLINE.
06:48:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.
TALK TO HIM OFF-LINE AND OF WHAT HE IS DOING.
I DON'T WANT HIM TO COME HERE AND TELL US.
IF THERE IS A NEED.
06:48:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL TALK TO HIM.
06:48:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
ABSOLUTELY.
ALL REACH OUT, BUT I GET UNCOMFORTABLE TALKING OF SAFETY
PLANS.
I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WE HAVE THEM.
06:48:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I AM TALKING OF RESOURCES MAKING SURE THEY
HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES BECAUSE AFTER OCTOBER 1.
THE NEW BUDGET -- WE ARE TALKING OF A BUDGET AND TALKING OF
RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO POLICE THE
MISSION.
06:49:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
06:49:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
THAT'S ALL.
06:49:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:49:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
I HAVE A FEW.
I WANT TO CHANGE THE MOTION I MADE ON AUGUST 1 REGARDING A
WRITTEN STAFF REPORT ON SIDEWALKS BUILT IN WITH THE IN LI EU
FEES.
I TALKED TO THEM AGAIN AND THEY ASKED TO HAVE THE WRITTEN
REPORT CONTINUED TO JANUARY 9 TO MATCH WITH THE IN LIEU 2025
AND THE SAME WITH THE SIDEWALK AND IN LIEU.
06:49:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
WHENS THAT WITH A MOTION SET FOR?
06:49:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
IT WAS SET FOR AUGUST 22.
06:49:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
AUGUST 22.
06:49:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
MOVING FROM AUGUST 22 TO -- TO JANUARY 9.
I WILL PUT ON HERE WAS AUGUST 22.
06:49:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
OPPOSED?
YES, MA'AM.
06:49:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
A LITTLE BIT OF A LONG ONE.
WE TALKED ABOUT -- WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH MR. ROGERO
DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.
I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF PROVIDE AN IN-PERSON REPORT ON NOVEMBER
21, 2024 TO INCLUDE GENERAL FUND MAJOR REVENUE BY CATEGORY
FOR THE FY-24 BUDGET, PRELIMINARY YEAR END AND THE VARIANCE
OR CHANGE BETWEEN THE TWO.
INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES OF REVENUE BASED ON PAGE 6
OF THE FY 25 BUDGET PRESENTATION TITLED GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
PROPERTY TAXES, OTHER TAXES, CHARGES FOR SERVICES AND
MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES.
THE REASON I WANT THIS, I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN WHAT WE PREDICTED AND WHAT ENDED UP TO SEE WHAT THE
VARIANCE IS.
BUT ALSO, THE -- YES, THAT WAS THE REVENUE SIDE.
NOW WE ARE DOING THE EXPENSES SIDE.
06:50:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS.
06:50:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE SAME MOTION BECAUSE THEY GO TOGETHER AND
TRAVEL TOGETHER.
THE GENERAL FUND -- THINK OF WRITTEN DOWN TOO.
GENERAL FUND, MAJOR EXPENDITURE BY CATEGORY FOR THE FY '24
ADOPTED BUDGET AND PRELIMINARY AND VARIANCE INCLUDE THE
FOLLOWING CATEGORIES OF EXPENDITURES BASED ON PAGE 7 OF
THE FY '25 TITLED GENERAL FUND BALANCE, SALARY AND
BENEFITS, CRA CONTRIBUTIONS, PAY GO CAPITAL FUNDING, BUDGET
INCREASES UNDER THAT WERE INCREASED COSTS, INCREASED LEVEL
OF SERVICE AND NEW SERVICE.
THAT IS THE MOTION.
MANISCALCO A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED?
YES, MA'AM.
06:51:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HARRY HEDGES RECENTLY RETIRED FROM THE AHAC
BOARD AND ACKNOWLEDGE HIS PUBLIC SERVICE BY PROVIDING HIM
WITH A COMMENDATIONS.
NOVEMBER 22, 2024.
06:51:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ABSOLUTELY.
A MOTION AND A SECOND.
YES, MA'AM.
06:51:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
THE LAST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT -- SO WE
HAVE THE CONVERSATION LAST -- LAST ON MONDAY ABOUT THE
POLICE IMPOUND IF A STILT.
WE HAVE DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH AND I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE --
HOW THIS -- HOW THIS HAS GONE FORWARD.
AND WE CAN BE A PROBABLE VIED YOU WITH COPIES OF THIS.
THIS STARTED IN 2022 AS A POLICE IMPOUND FACILITY AND THE
PROJECT PROVIDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW BUILDING, ALL
NECESSARY SITE IMPROVEMENTS FROM FOR THE IMPOUND LOT.
A BUDGET OF $4 MILLION.
NEXT YEAR, IT CHANGED.
IT STILL IS CALLED THE IMPOUND FACILITY.
AND THEY ADDED "AND OFFICES."
PROJECT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW BUILDING AND SITE
IMPROVEMENTS OF RELOCATING THE TPB INBOUND LOT AND EXISTING
BUILDING AND SITE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF RELOCATING
VARIOUS TPD OFFICES AND THEN THE BUDGET INCREASES TO $8.1
MILLION.
ISSUE HERE IS WHAT THEY ARE TELLING US IS THAT THIS IS WHEN
THEY CHANGED AND DECIDED THAT.
GOING TO PUT THE FORENSICS.
BUT THEY DIDN'T TELL US.
THE TITLE DIDN'T CHANGE.
IT JUST CHANGED TO AND OFFICES.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WHICH ACTUALLY HAS MY
NOTES ON IT.
WHAT EXACTLY WILL BE HOUSED HERE AND WHERE IS THE REMAINING
$3 MILLION.
SO RIGHT NOW, THEY -- THEY ALLOCATE AND USED ABOUT $557
MILLION.
AND I UNDERLINED THE DEFINITION INCLUDES THAT VARIOUS TPD
OFFICES, AGAIN.
BUT THE PROJECT TITLE REMAINS RELOCATION OF TPD INBOUND
FACILITY AND OFFICES.
IT IS NOT AS CLEAR WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE.
NEXT IS THIS YEAR.
THIS YEAR UNDER -- IS ALL UNDER THE SAME ACCOUNT NUMBER,
1002121.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE EXACT SAME THING.
AND IT CHANGED FROM OFFICES -- OFFICE NOTICE TITLE BUT NOW
SEVERAL TPD UNITS.
THE MONEY HAVEN'T CHANGED HERE.
THEY STILL HAVEN'T USED THE 4 MILLION.
BUT NEXT IS THE ADDITIONAL PROJECT.
AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS ADDED.
THIS IS THE 40 MILLION PROJECT.
SO NOW WE HAVE $8.5 MILLION IN THE FIRST ONE.
THIS PROJECT IS NOW -- IS 1002609.
AND AGAIN, I AM HAPPY TO GIVE YOU ALL COPIES OF THIS.
AND THIS SAYS -- THIS PROJECT PROVIDE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION
PHASE OF THE RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING 38,000-SQUARE-FOOT
WAREHOUSE WITH 7500-SQUARE-FOOT ADDITION TO ACCOMMODATE THE
EVIDENCE CONTROL AND FORENSICS UNIT OF THE TPD WITH PARKING
LOTS AND A RETENTION POND AND DOES NOT AT ALL TALK OF THE
INBOUND LOT.
SO I AM -- I AM VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS IS HOW WE ENDED
UP WITH SEVERAL OTHER BIG PROJECTS.
WE STARTED WITH THESE LITTLE THINGS.
IT WAS TITLED EN BOUND FACILITIES AND NEXT TO IT WAS INBOUND
FACILITY AND OFFICES AND THAT WHAT HE IS IT STAYED.
IT NEVER SAID WHAT THE OFFICES ARE.
WE CAN NOT BE EXPECTED TO GO THROUGH 300 CIP PROJECTS TO SEE
THE FINAL -- THE FINAL DOCUMENTS.
IT IS THE SCOPE OF SERVICES AGREEMENT THAT WE FOUND DATED
SEPTEMBER 2022 THAT CLEARLY SAYS "RELOCATION OF THE TAMPA
POLICE DEPARTMENT INBOUND LOT EVIDENCE CONTROL SECTION AND
FORENSIC UNITS TO THE EXISTING SITE AT THESE TWO ADDRESSES."
SO THIS HAS BEEN PLANNED SINCE 2022.
AND SIMPLY HAS NOT BEEN IN THE CIP AS -- AS -- IN THE
DESCRIPTION.
AND THIS IS MY CONCERN.
SO MY MOTION IS TO HAVE AN IN-PERSON STAFF REPORT AT THE
OPERATIONAL BUDGET WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 19 WITH A DETAILED
TIMELINE FROM FY '21 TO PRESENT FOR THE TPD ANNEX SLASH
IMPOUND PROJECT ITEMS 1002, 1021.
ASSOCIATED WITH ADDRESSES 505 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE AND 5112
NORTH ALBANY AVENUE WHICH SHOULD INCLUDE PURCHASE DOCUMENTS
INCLUDING A SITE PLAN, ANY BUDGET AMOUNTS, ANY RFQs, SCOPES
OF SERVICE AND FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS.
06:56:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
IS THERE A SECOND?
06:56:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THERE IS A SECOND.
06:56:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
ALL IN FAVOR.
06:56:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY, THIS DOESN'T REFLECT
OUR TRUE FIVE-YEAR PLAN AND THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR
YOU TO FIX.
I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND
HOW WE GO FORWARD.
BECAUSE WHAT THIS IS TELLING US AND WHAT THIS IS EVIDENCE
OF, ANY SMALL PROJECT, ANY PROJECT, WITH GO FROM SMALL TO 40
MILLION WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE.
THIS IS WHAT THE PUBLIC IS SAYING THEY DON'T WANT.
THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT -- AND SO -- YEAH, I -- EXACTLY.
IT HAPPENED WITH MAN IN AVENUE.
AND WE -- WE HAVE ALL DESPERATELY -- AND THE RIVERWALK.
SO WE HAVE ALL DESPERATELY ASKING FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY.
BUT THIS IS NOT TRANSPARENT.
THIS IS NOT A TRANSPARENT WAY OF GOING FORWARD.
SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT THE
WORKSHOP OF HOW WE CAN DO THIS GOING FORWARD.
06:57:10PM >>BILL CARLSON:
COULD YOU -- MR. CHAIR?
06:57:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
YES, SIR.
06:57:15PM >>BILL CARLSON:
COULD YOU MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION TO ADDRESS
THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE.
BECAUSE IT IS JUST A CASE STUDY.
AS YOU SAID THERE ARE ALL THESE OTHER PROJECTS.
AND WHAT THIS IS POINTING OUT IS THAT SOMEBODY MADE THE
DECISION NOT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH US OR THE PUBLIC.
AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE.
AND GOING BACKWARDS, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN MAN IN AVENUE -- I
WON'T BRING ALL THAT UP AGAIN.
THERE ARE SO MANY BAD THINGS THERE.
06:57:43PM >> THAT'S WHAT -- I WANT TO -- I WANT US TO HAVE A
CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK SHOWING -- HAVING A TIMELINE FIRST.
US HAVING A CONVERSATION AND MAKE MOTIONS.
AND WHICH APPARENTLY WE CAN MAKE MOTIONS DURING WORKSHOPS.
THAT WAS A MISTAKE ON OUR PART.
06:58:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I WANT DO OVER.
06:58:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
HURTAK I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE
THAT CONVERSATION AFTER WE HAVE THIS.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO STAY TONIGHT TO HAVE THIS
CONVERSATION.
06:58:13PM >>BILL CARLSON:
DO YOU WANT TO SET ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM AFTER
THAT TO TALK OF THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE --
06:58:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
WAIT FOR THIS FIRST.
06:58:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
VOTE FOR THIS FIRST.
06:58:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
I HAVE A QUESTION.
ON THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU DISCLOSED.
EACH YEAR, WHAT WAS THE PRICE TAG?
06:58:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE SHOW IT.
KELLY, SHOW IT AGAIN.
06:58:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
IT WAS DIFFICULT TO READ.
06:58:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
WE WILL PROVIDE -- YES, SHE IS GOING TO MAKE
THEM RIGHT IN THE MOMENT.
BUT INITIALLY IT STARTED AT -- IT STARTED WITH FY '22 WHICH
WAS $2.6 MILLION.
THEN WENT TO THE NEXT YEAR IN FY '23 TO $5.2 MILLION FOR A
TOTAL OF $8.1 MILLION.
THEN WENT TO $8.248 IN FY '24.
STAYED 8.5 IN 2025, AND ADDED 40 MILLION TO THE OTHER.
WE ARE LOOKING AT $48.5 MILLION.
I TALKED TO AT THE DEPUTY CHIEF KATE, AND SHE SAID THEY INTEND
TO KEEP IT AT $45 MILLION.
I WANT THEM TO TELL US THAT.
I DOESN'T TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION SECONDHAND.
06:59:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
ALL IN FAVOR.
ANYTHING ELSE?
06:59:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT.
AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO ASK FOR
THAT.
SO I AM STILL WORK ON THIS MOTION.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT -- BUT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS
-- WE HAVE TO THINK FORWARD ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO HOW WE
ARE GOING TO COMBAT THIS.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS REQUIRING PROJECT TITLES TO MATCH BY A
CERTAIN DATE.
I HAVE GOT THROUGH ALL SORTS OF THINGS BUT I THINK WE NEED
TO TALK ABOUT IT AS A GROUP.
AGAIN, I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE COPIES AND SOMETHING THAT I
THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT ON MONDAY.
07:00:10PM >> THIS IS FANTASTIC BACKGROUND.
THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
THE OTHER THING YOU DIDN'T DO IS SPECIFY WHO SHOULD COME
SPEAK.
I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE TPD SPEAKING ON THIS BUT
FACILITIES AND CHIEF OF STAFF AND/OR CFO.
IF IT IS TPD, DISCUSSION WHETHER THEY NEED IT OR NOT.
THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE.
THE ISSUE IS, WHY WASN'T IT DISCLOSED TO THE PUBLIC EARLIER
AND HOW THE PRICE CASE SLATED JUST LIKE THESE OTHER
PROJECTS.
WILL.
07:00:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
IS A BUDGET SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP.
07:00:49PM >> THIS IS WHY -- YOU ARE ADDING IT TO THE AGENDA AND GIVING
ENOUGH NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC.
THAT IS THE OPERATING BUDGET.
THIS WILL BE SEPARATE BUT ON THE AGENDA BUDGET RELATED
BECAUSE THIS IS BUDGET MOVING FORWARD.
07:01:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YES.
I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AS WELL AND THE REASON I SAID "STAFF"
BECAUSE I WANT IT TO BE THE STAFF THAT IS WORKING ON IT.
BUT I WILL SPECIFY FACILITIES AND BUDGET STAFF.
07:01:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE OF LEADERSHIP.
07:01:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOU ARE RIGHT.
FACILITIES AND BUDGET STATUTE REPORT.
BECAUSE THIS IS NOT -- YOU ARE CORRECT.
THIS IS A FACILITIES ISSUE.
AND, BY THE WAY, THE POLICE IMPOUND FACILITY IS UNDER
FACILITIES.
THE NEW ONE IS UNDER POLICE.
SO THAT -- THERE ARE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TOO.
SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS WHY IS IT TWO DIFFERENT
PROJECTS AND WHY WE HAVEN'T COMBINED THEM TO ONE NUMBER.
AND -- I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY THANK MISS SHARP AND
MISS KAPESKI FOR HELPING ME WITH THIS.
THEY DID A LOT OF WORK IN THIS AS WELL.
07:01:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:01:56PM >>BILL CARLSON:
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
HENDERSON NOTION RECEIVE AND FILE.
SHELBY BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING WITH RESPONSE TO COUNCILMAN
VIERA'S MOTION FOR THE CONDEMNATION ON AUGUST 22.
YOUR NEW RULES STATE THAT A MAXIMUM OF ONE IN-PERSON
COMMENDATION FOR OTHER THAN POLICE, FIRE AND ATU SET FOR
EACH REGULAR MEETING.
YOU PREVIOUSLY HAVE ONE COMMENDATION SET UP AND WILL REQUIRE
A WAIVER OF YOUR RULES.
07:02:24PM >>LUIS VIERA:
IS THAT -- I AM SORRY, DID WE --.SHELBY JUST
REQUIRES A WAIVER OF THE RULES.
07:02:48PM >>LUIS VIERA:
MAY I, MR. CHAIR?
07:02:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
SURE.
07:02:53PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I TOOK THAT OFF.
07:02:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE PRESENTATION OF COMMENDATION?
07:02:59PM >>LUIS VIERA:
YES, I ALREADY DID THAT SHELBY WHAT ABOUT THE
RICHARD FORMICA?
07:03:05PM >>LUIS VIERA:
OH, I DID NOT SEE THAT.
OUR RULES IS WE CAN ONLY HAVE ONE IN-PERSON OF COMMENDATION.
07:03:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
PER MEETING IF IT IS NOT RELATED TO POLICE,
FIRE AND ATU UNIONS.
THESE ARE THE NEW RULES.
07:03:25PM >>LUIS VIERA:
WE WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES.
I WAS ASKED TO DO THIS COUNCIL APPARENTLY ON THIS DATE.
IT IS HIS RETIREMENT CELEBRATION SO THEY WANT IT IN COUNCIL.
SHOULDN'T TAKE MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES.
I WILL MAKE THE MOTION OBVIOUSLY.
07:03:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
NOTION WAIVE THE RULES.
07:03:46PM >>BILL CARLSON:
SECOND.
07:03:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
MOTION.
ANY OPPOSED.
07:03:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
NAY.
07:03:53PM >>CLERK:
MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK AND HENDERSON VOTING NO.
07:04:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
WE JUST MADE THE RULES.
07:04:04PM >>LUIS VIERA:
I WILL TELL HIM --
07:04:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO:
COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
07:04:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
ONE MORE THING.
SPECIAL PRIVILEGE.
MY NIECE WALKED IN AND HER ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER FRESHMAN
GETTING READY TO GO OFF TO COLLEGE.
LILLIAN, I WITH A TONIGHT SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU HEADED
TO ALBANY STATE UNIVERSITY IN ALBANY, GEORGIA.
SO YOU WALKED IN HERE.
I GUESS YOU -- YOU OBVIOUSLY WANTED ME TO DO THAT.
GO TO THE POE PODIUM.
TELL US WHERE YOU ARE GOING.
WHAT YOU ARE MAJORING IN.
07:04:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK:
YOUR NAME.
07:04:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
07:04:41PM >> MY NAME IS LILLIAN STREET.
AND I AM GOING TO ALBANY STATE UNIVERSITY IN GEORGIA FOR
NURSING.
07:04:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
FOR NURSING.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
07:04:50PM >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
07:04:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON:
RECEIVE AND FILE.
07:04:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN:
YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC
SPEAKING.
SO GET USED TO THIS.
A LOT OF PUBLIC SPEAKING IN NURSING SCHOOL.
HENDERSON A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
07:05:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
BEFORE YOU DO THAT.
WHAT HAPPENED IS -- I APOLOGIES FOR COUNCIL NOT INFORMING
YOU -- TO REMINDS YOU THAT WAIVER OF RULES REQUIRE A
SUPERMAJORITY AND THE UNDERLYING MOTION THAT YOU HAVE
PREVIOUSLY IS STILL THERE.
IN OTHER WORDS, TO ADD IT.
07:05:26PM >>LUIS VIERA:
BY THE WAY -- THAT WAS A SEPARATE MOTION.
BY THE WAY, I CAN PROBABLY DO IT AT HIS CEREMONY.
THAT IS FINE.
THEY JUST REQUESTED -- I AM TEXTING SOMEBODY RIGHT NOW
ASKING IF I COULD MAKE AT HIS CEREMONY CLENDENIN MAKE THAT
MOTION AND THEN AMEND IT IF YOU HAVE TO.
MAKE THE MOTION FOR OFF-SITE.
07:05:45PM >>LUIS VIERA:
LET ME RIGHT NOW -- I WILL JUST DO THE MOTION
NEXT WEEK.
LET ME SO I DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TWICE.
I WILL SEE WHEN I AM GOING TO DO IT.
I AM SURE IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL.
07:05:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY:
THE MOTION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE AND
PASSED.
IT IS ALREADY DONE.
07:06:01PM >>LUIS VIERA:
THEN ACCORDING TO THAT THEN, MY MOTION FOR THE
COMMENDATION ON AUGUST 22.
SEE IF WE CAN KNIT OTHER STATE AND DO IT OFF-SITE.
MANISCALCO A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN.
A MOTION AND SECOND.
SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
WE ARE ADJOURNED.

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