TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
AUGUST 8, 2024, 5:01 P.M.
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05:02:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
05:02:38PM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO
05:02:40PM ORDER.
05:02:41PM IF WE CAN HAVE ROLL CALL.
05:02:43PM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
05:02:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
05:02:44PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
05:02:46PM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
05:02:50PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
05:02:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
05:02:53PM >>CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
05:03:00PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS.
05:03:03PM I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY, BUT FIRST, JENNIFER MALONE HAS
05:03:07PM SOMETHING TO SAY BEFORE WE CLOSE IT.
05:03:09PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: A MOTION TO OPEN THE HEARINGS FIRST.
05:03:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO OPEN THE HEARING.
05:03:12PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN
05:03:17PM CLENDENIN.
05:03:17PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE.
05:03:22PM ITEM 2 IS AN AMENDMENT, TA/CPA 24-02 AND REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE.
05:03:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER TWO TO
05:03:31PM OCTOBER 12, 2024, 5:01 P.M. AT 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR,
05:03:37PM TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
05:03:38PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:03:40PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:03:42PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:03:43PM ANY OPPOSED?
05:03:45PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
05:03:48PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3, FILE NUMBER REZ-23-99 CONTINUED TO THE
05:03:55PM OCTOBER PUBLIC HEARING.
05:03:55PM WAIVE THE 180-DAY RULE.
05:03:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PART OF THE MOTION TO WAIVE THE 180 DAYS.
05:04:04PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:04:06PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:04:07PM OH, 5:01 P.M., 301 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
05:04:12PM 33602.
05:04:14PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: REMINDER TO PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THIS IS
05:04:17PM THE ONLY NOTICE YOU GET OF THAT DATE, OCTOBER 24, 2024 AT
05:04:22PM 5:01 P.M.
05:04:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: TO THE MISNOTICES AND WITHDRAWALS.
05:04:25PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: I DID HEAR MR. SHELBY SAY OCTOBER --
05:04:29PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: OCTOBER 10, 2024.
05:04:30PM THANK YOU.
05:04:32PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8, THIS WAS A MISNOTICE
05:04:37PM AND CANNOT BE HEARD.
05:04:37PM PLEASE REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
05:04:39PM >> GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO REMOVE NUMBER 8.
05:04:41PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:04:42PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:04:44PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: AGENDA ITEM 9, THE APPLICANTS HAD ASKED
05:04:49PM THAT THIS APPLICATION BE WITHDRAWN.
05:04:52PM REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
05:04:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO WITHDRAW ITEM NUMBER 9.
05:04:56PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN
05:04:58PM CLENDENIN.
05:04:58PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, ALSO A MISNOTICE
05:05:04PM AND CAN NOT BE HEARD.
05:05:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:05:08PM SECOND BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:05:11PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: LASTLY, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 11, REZ-24-56.
05:05:17PM A MISNOTICE AND CANNOT BE HEARD.
05:05:19PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 9 FROM
05:05:23PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:05:24PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:05:25PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:05:27PM OPPOSED?
05:05:28PM OKAY, WE HAVE OPENED ALL PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND KICK OFF WITH
05:05:31PM ITEM NUMBER 1.
05:05:36PM CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
05:05:38PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SO MOVED.
05:05:39PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
05:05:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:05:42PM OPPOSE?
05:05:43PM YES, MA'AM.
05:05:43PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:05:46PM ABBYE FEELEY, INTERIM ADMINISTRATOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
05:05:51PM OPPORTUNITY.
05:05:51PM TONIGHT I HAVE FIRST ON YOUR AGENDA ARE THE YBOR CITY
05:05:54PM PARKING STANDARDS.
05:05:55PM SECTION 27-178.
05:05:57PM LAST MONTH ON JULY 25, WE REQUESTED THAT A PORTION OF THE
05:06:01PM JULY 2024 TEXT AMENDMENT CYCLE BE PULLED OUT.
05:06:06PM AND THAT WAS THE SECTION 27-178 AND CONTINUED UNTIL TONIGHT
05:06:11PM IN ORDER TO ALLOW STAFF TO MAKE MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO AREAS
05:06:15PM WITHIN THE LANGUAGE THAT WE FOUND NEEDED TO BE ADDRESSED, AS
05:06:19PM WELL AS TO RESPOND TO THE ADDITIONAL MOTION BY COUNCILWOMAN
05:06:24PM HURTAK RELATING TO THE LANDSCAPING ITEMS AND BUFFERING.
05:06:28PM WE HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION THAT WILL TAKE US THROUGH THOSE
05:06:32PM MODIFICATIONS AS WELL AS WE HAVE FOUR MINOR REVISIONS WE
05:06:36PM WOULD REQUEST COUNCIL TO MAKE BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND
05:06:39PM READING AND I WILL GO THROUGH THOSE IF THAT IS THE PLEASURE
05:06:42PM OF COUNCIL.
05:06:42PM TONIGHT WITH ME, I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE -- I HAVE ERIC
05:06:46PM COTTON, OUR ZONING ADMINISTRATOR; DENNIS FERNANDEZ,
05:06:48PM HISTORIC PRESERVATION MANAGER; SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ
05:06:53PM AND DANA CROSBY COLLIER FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
05:06:56PM AND THEN ALSO MAJOR ERIC DEFELICE WITH TAMPA POLICE
05:07:01PM DEPARTMENT, AS THIS HAS BEEN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT OVER THE
05:07:05PM PAST TWO YEARS TO GET TO THAT POINT TONIGHT.
05:07:07PM IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ONCE WE GET THROUGH WITH THE
05:07:10PM PRESENTATION, I DO HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS AVAILABLE TO
05:07:12PM ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
05:07:13PM I WILL GO AHEAD THROUGH THE PRESENTATION REAL QUICK.
05:07:18PM SO THE MOTION.
05:07:20PM THE MOTION WAS ORIGINALLY MADE ON SEPTEMBER 15, 2022.
05:07:24PM SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD OVER THE PAST ALMOST TWO YEARS
05:07:28PM TO GET TO THIS POINT THAT WE ARE TONIGHT.
05:07:32PM HIGHLIGHTS OF THE CHANGES.
05:07:37PM ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT ON JULY 25 WAS THE STATEMENT OF
05:07:41PM COMPLIANCE.
05:07:41PM SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CORRECTED AND IS BEFORE
05:07:45PM YOU TONIGHT.
05:07:46PM AND THAT -- I WILL GO THROUGH EXACTLY WHAT THAT LANGUAGE IS.
05:07:51PM BUT THE -- THE ASSUMPTION IS IF YOU RECEIVED YOUR
05:07:59PM CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FROM THE BLC AND THAT
05:08:04PM CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS ENTITLED THE PROPERTY TOO AND
05:08:08PM CONTINUED TO OPERATE UNDER THAT, AND AS OF SEPTEMBER 5, 2024,
05:08:13PM YOU WILL BE CONSIDERED A PERFORMING LOT WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
05:08:15PM NEW LOTS THAT WILL REQUEST TO BE ESTABLISHED AFTER THAT WILL
05:08:21PM NOW GO THROUGH THE SPECIAL USE 2 PROCESS AND WILL BE HEARD
05:08:25PM IN A PUBLIC HEARING MUCH LIKE TONIGHT.
05:08:27PM IT WILL BE SITE PLAN CONTROLLED AND WILL STILL REQUIRE
05:08:30PM CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FROM THE BLC.
05:08:35PM THE NEXT IS THE VEHICLE USE AREA BUFFER TO BE A FIVE-FOOT
05:08:38PM LANDSCAPE AREA WITH FOUR-FOOT FENCE.
05:08:41PM I WILL GO TO THE SPECIFIC LANGUAGE ON THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
05:08:45PM INTERIOR LANDSCAPING TO BE REQUIRED FOR LOTS OVER 7500
05:08:50PM SQUARE FEET.
05:08:51PM ON JULY 25, WE WENT OVER WITH YOU THAT THE CURRENT CODE HAS
05:08:54PM DIFFERENT STANDARDS FORE UNDER 7500 AND OVER 7500.
05:08:58PM AND WE DID NOW INCORPORATE THOSE INTERIOR LAND SCAPE ISLANDS
05:09:03PM FOR THE OVER 7500.
05:09:05PM PERMANENT IRRIGATION FOR NEW LOTS WILL NEED TO BE INSTALLED.
05:09:09PM A 15-FOOT BUFFER ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USE WHICH IS
05:09:14PM STANDARD CODE FOR USE GROUP Cs NEXT TO GROUP As.
05:09:19PM THE REMOVAL OF THE REQUIREMENT TO SECURE THE LOTS.
05:09:22PM ONE THING WE DID FIND IS MOST OF THE LOTS -- THE MAJORITY OF
05:09:25PM THE LOTS IN THE DISTRICT ARE 24-7.
05:09:27PM SO REQUIRING THEM TO BE CLOSED WHEN THEY ARE NEVER CLOSED
05:09:32PM WAS DIFFICULT.
05:09:33PM WE ARE STILL COMMITTED TO LOOKING INTO THIS AS PART OF THE
05:09:37PM CODE UPDATE.
05:09:37PM SO IT IS JUST NOT IN THE LANGUAGE FOR YOU TONIGHT.
05:09:40PM BUT WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT AS WE UPDATE THE CODE WITH
05:09:45PM THE CONSULTANT IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
05:09:47PM AND THEN CHANGES TO THE SIGNS.
05:09:49PM AND THEN THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS.
05:09:51PM SO THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS THAT -- AND I JUST WENT OVER
05:09:59PM THIS BRIEFLY THAT ALL PRINCIPAL USE PARKING LOTS
05:10:03PM RECEIVED BLC APPROVAL SEPTEMBER 5, FOUR AND CONTINUE TO
05:10:08PM OPERATE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SUCH APPROVAL WILL BE CONSIDERED
05:10:11PM PERFORMING WITH THIS SUBSECTION A.
05:10:14PM PRINCIPAL USE PARKING LOTS NOT APPROVED THAT BLC APPROVAL
05:10:18PM PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 5 SHALL COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF
05:10:21PM 27-177 IN THIS SUBSECTIONS A.
05:10:24PM ONE OF THE REVISIONS I WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IN JUST A
05:10:26PM MINUTE WILL BE SUBSECTIONS A AND B.
05:10:30PM WE LEFT THE B OFF AND ONE OF THE REVISIONS BETWEEN FIRST AND
05:10:34PM SECOND READING THAT WILL NEED TO BE MADE AND I WILL GO
05:10:36PM THROUGH THAT VEHICLE USE LANDSCAPING AND USE-TO-USE BUFFERS
05:10:44PM AND SCREENING.
05:10:45PM I KNOW YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS OF REZONING.
05:10:49PM WHAT IS REQUIRED WITH A USE KNOWS ANOTHER USE AND WHAT IS
05:10:52PM REQUIRED WITH PARKING AN AREA THAT IS ADJACENT TO THE
05:10:54PM RIGHT-OF-WAY.
05:10:54PM SO AS PART OF THE CHANGES THAT CAME THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER
05:11:01PM BETWEEN THE VUA WHICH IS THE PARK LOT AND THE RIGHT-OF-WAY,
05:11:05PM WHICH IS THE STREET WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE FIVE FOOT WITH A
05:11:08PM FOUR-FOOT TRANSPARENT FENCE.
05:11:10PM THE TYPICAL WROUGHT IRON TRANSPARENT THAT YOU CAN SEE
05:11:13PM THROUGH.
05:11:13PM AND A HEDGE.
05:11:18PM THE USE-TO-USE BUFFERS BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND
05:11:22PM RESIDENTIAL USE IS CONTAINED IN THE LANGUAGE THIS EVENING AS
05:11:26PM 15-FOOT WITH A SIX-FOOT SOLID FENCE.
05:11:29PM CLEARLY TO MEET PLC STANDARDS.
05:11:32PM AND THEN THAT IS ALSO PLANTED BUFFER.
05:11:36PM WHEN THE PARKING LOT IS NEXT TO A NONRESIDENTIAL USE, IT IS
05:11:40PM A FIVE-FOOT BUFFER AND THIS FIVE-FOOT CONSISTS OF TREES AND
05:11:48PM HEDGE.
05:11:51PM WE HAVE DISCUSSED SIGNAGE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW RELATED
05:11:54PM THAT THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT FOR A SIGN THAT SPOKE TO NO
05:11:57PM CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY IN
05:12:01PM CHAPTER 14.
05:12:01PM WE HAVE NOW MOVED THAT REQUIREMENT FROM 14 INTO 27, SO IT IS
05:12:10PM NOW IN BOTH PLACES AND ALSO IT SHALL BE ONE SIGN FOR -- AT
05:12:20PM ENTRANCE FOR THE COST OF PARKING, HOURS OF OPERATION, THE
05:12:22PM PHYSICAL ADDRESS OF LOT AND THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE
05:12:25PM OPERATOR.
05:12:26PM YOU WILL HEAR PROBABLY THIS EVENING IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT
05:12:28PM THERE ARE A BUNCH OF OTHER SIGNS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE
05:12:31PM STATE WHEN YOU HAVE PRINCIPAL USE PARKING LOT RELATED TO
05:12:36PM LIABILITY, RELATED TO HOLD HARMLESS OTHER THINGS.
05:12:40PM LOCK YOUR VALUABLES.
05:12:43PM IF IT IS A STATE-REQUIRED SIGNS, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PUT IT
05:12:47PM THERE.
05:12:48PM THIS IS FOR ONLY ADDITIONAL SIGNS THAT ARE CITY-REQUIRED
05:12:52PM SIGNS.
05:12:52PM AND THEN THE NEW ADDITION WITH AS TO HAVE AN ANNUAL
05:12:55PM OPERATIONS AND SECURITY PLAN.
05:12:57PM THIS IS TO HAVE A CLEARLY FOR LOTS THAT HAVE PAID PARKING
05:13:03PM THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT FROM 10 P.M. TO 4 A.M.
05:13:08PM THEY ARE TO HAVE AN UNIFORM SECURITY GUARD AND THOSE LOTS
05:13:13PM WOULD SUBMIT AN ANNUAL OPERATIONS AND SECURITY PLAN THAT AN
05:13:19PM ACTUALLY CONFIRMS THE INTENT TO CONTINUE OPERATION OF THE
05:13:22PM LOT, THE ILLUSTRATION OF THE LOT, TO SHOW THAT IT REMAINS IN
05:13:27PM COMPLIANCE WITH THAT BLC PERMIT AS WAS PROVIDED OR APPROVED,
05:13:32PM THE COPY OF THE CONTRACT WITH THE SECURITY COMPANY.
05:13:35PM PHOTOS OF ALL THE SIGNS ON THE LOT AND AN AFFIDAVIT
05:13:41PM ATTESTING TO OVERALL COMPLIANCE THOSE COUPLE OF REVISIONS.
05:13:47PM ONE THING WE HAVE HEARD IT THAT SOME OF THESE CHANGES NEED
05:13:52PM ADDITIONAL TIME TO COMPLY WITH.
05:13:54PM RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE IT SET FOR SEPTEMBER 5, WHICH IS AFTER YOUR
05:13:57PM SECOND READING OF THIS ORDINANCE AND IF IT IS THE PLEASURE
05:14:01PM OF COUNCIL, WE WILL REVISE THAT TO BE OCTOBER 1 WHICH IS
05:14:05PM ABOUT 60 DAYS, 45, 60 DAYS FROM TODAY, AND THAT WAY I AM
05:14:12PM SHOWING YOU WHICH SECTIONS OF THE CODE WILL CHANGE TO BE
05:14:17PM OCTOBER 1.
05:14:17PM THAT WILL BE THE DATE OF COMPLIANCE AND WHEN THE SPECIAL USE
05:14:24PM WILL KICK IN, AS WELL AS WHEN THE LICENSE SECURITY GUARD
05:14:30PM WILL BE AND FINALLY WE WILL MAKE THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS
05:14:33PM ORDINANCE TO BE OCTOBER 1.
05:14:36PM THAT WAY WE ARE NOT SHIFTING FROM AN ATTENDANT TO A SECURITY
05:14:40PM GUARD AND HAVE A VOID OF HAVING SOMEBODY AT THE LOTS.
05:14:45PM SECONDLY IS THAT A AND A AND B THAT I TALKED ABOUT IN THE
05:14:51PM FIRST SECTION, THAT ALL LOTS, NEW LOTS WILL GO THROUGH THAT
05:14:55PM SPECIAL USE 2 PROCESS AND COMPLY WITH 27-177 IN SECTION A
05:15:00PM AND B.
05:15:02PM THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER STATEMENT OF COMPLIANCE UNDER THE
05:15:09PM SURFACE PARKING LOT STANDARDS OF ALL APPLICATIONS OF SURFACE
05:15:13PM PARKING LOTS SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY CERTIFICATE OF
05:15:19PM APPROPRIATENESS BY THE BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION.
05:15:24PM AND ALL NEW APPLICATION ALSO GO TO THE BLC.
05:15:27PM FULL BLC.
05:15:29PM NOT THE ADMINISTRATOR AND ANY SURFACE LOTS.
05:15:32PM I THINK SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT COME UP.
05:15:33PM ARE THESE STANDARDS FOR AN APARTMENT BUILDING THAT HAS A
05:15:37PM PARK LOT IF IT HAS SURFACE PARKING LOT?
05:15:40PM THE ANSWER IS, YES, THEY ARE.
05:15:41PM THIS IS NOT JUST IF YOU HAVE A PAID LOT.
05:15:44PM IF YOU WERE COMING IN WITH A NEW OFFICE BUILDING IN YBOR AND
05:15:47PM IT HAS A SURFACE PARKING LOT BEHIND IT, YOU ARE GOING TO
05:15:50PM MEET THE BUFFERING AND FENCING AND LANDSCAPING THAT A SINGLE
05:15:56PM LOT WILL BE REQUIRED TO MEET.
05:15:57PM THESE NEW STANDARDS ARE FOR ALL LOTS.
05:16:00PM TYPICALLY THOSE LOTS COME IN TO THE BARRIO AS PART OF THE
05:16:03PM BUILDING.
05:16:05PM SO YOU WILL HAVE THE BANK AND THE LOT.
05:16:07PM IT IS ALL GOING TO THE BLC AS ONE PACKAGE.
05:16:10PM AND THAT IS WHEN THE STANDARDS WILL BE CHECKED.
05:16:15PM AND THEN LASTLY, THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE IN THE CODE THAT
05:16:21PM REFER TO THE TELEPHONE NUMBER OF A CONTACT PERSON OR THE
05:16:25PM SECURITY GUARD.
05:16:27PM IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WAS CHANGED TO SECURITY COMPANY
05:16:32PM BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE FOR DIFFERENT NIGHTS
05:16:36PM AND IS THAT INFORMATION FOR THE COMPANY WILL HAD BEEN
05:16:38PM PREFERRED AND OUR FOURTH REVISION WE WILL ASK TO BE MADE
05:16:41PM BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND READING WITH THAT, I AM AVAILABLE
05:16:47PM FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
05:16:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:16:51PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU PUT
05:16:54PM THROUGH THIS.
05:16:54PM I SPOKE TO MR. ACCARDI YESTERDAY.
05:16:58PM AND HE IS HERE TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:17:00PM AND HE MAY HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS, BUT THE TWO MAIN ONES
05:17:03PM THAT I HEARD FROM THIS.
05:17:04PM AND I SPENT MORE TIME WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAN I HAVE WITH
05:17:08PM HIM, BY THE WAY, BUT THAT IS THE TWO ISSUES HE IS MAINLY
05:17:15PM AGAINST IS ONE, THE SECURITY PLAN.
05:17:17PM JUST THE BURDEN OF CREATING A SECURITY PLAN.
05:17:21PM HOW DO YOU FIND THE EXPERTISE.
05:17:23PM HOW DO YOU PAY FOR IT?
05:17:25PM HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO IF YOU ARE IN THE PARKING AND THE
05:17:29PM RELIABILITY AND COST OF HAVING INDIVIDUAL SECURITY AND THE
05:17:32PM QUESTION IS, WHY WOULDN'T THE CITY DO THIS.
05:17:33PM THIS MORNING WE HAD A CRA UPDATE, AND THE CRA IS FUNDING
05:17:42PM SPECIFIC SECURITY AND A SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICT LIKE
05:17:46PM DOWNTOWN AND YBOR THAT MAY PAY A PART OF SECURITY.
05:17:51PM HE WILL SPEAK AND THEN YOU CAN DISCUSS IT.
05:17:53PM CAN YOU TELL US WHAT FROM YOUR RESEARCH THE SECURITY PLAN
05:17:57PM AND PARKING OWNERS PAYING FOR THEIR OWN SECURITY AND EACH
05:18:00PM ONE HAVING A DIFFERENT COMPANY, DIFFERENT POLICY.
05:18:03PM IS THAT A STANDARD THAT MOST CITIES VICE?
05:18:06PM WHAT IS BEST PRACTICES FROM YOUR RESEARCH?
05:18:10PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: AS YOU MIGHT RECALL, THIS IS -- THE CITY OF
05:18:14PM ORLANDO REQUIRES THIS ALSO.
05:18:15PM AND IF YOU WANT TO JUST CALL IT AN OPERATIONS PLAN, I MEAN,
05:18:20PM REALLY IT IS SHOWING US THAT YOU ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE
05:18:24PM SECURITY REQUIREMENT AND YOU HAVE THAT ACTIVE CONTRACT WHICH
05:18:29PM MEANS YOU HAVE A LICENSED GUARD AT YOUR LOT THURSDAY, FRIDAY
05:18:32PM AND SATURDAY NIGHT FROM 10 P.M. UNTIL 4 A.M., SIMILAR TO THE
05:18:36PM ATTENDANT THAT IS CURRENTLY REQUIRED, BUT IT IS THROUGH A
05:18:42PM COMPLIANCE.
05:18:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: BETWEEN ORLANDO, OTHER SAYS THAT DO THAT AND
05:18:49PM OTHER FUNDING MECHANISMS LIKE USING CRA MONEY AND SPECIAL
05:18:53PM TAXING DISTRICT AND PUTTING A SPECIAL FEE ON PARKING.
05:18:57PM THEREIS ANOTHER MODEL THAT WILL EXIST RATHER THAT
05:19:00PM INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS.
05:19:01PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT.
05:19:03PM >>BILL CARLSON: BESIDE ORLANDO, DO OTHER CITIES DO WHAT WE
05:19:07PM ARE SUGGESTING DOING?
05:19:09PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SOME OTHER CITIES RIGHT NOW HAVE MORATORIUM
05:19:13PM ON NEW BUSINESSES AND NEW NIGHT CLUBS AS THEIR WAY OF
05:19:16PM APPROACHING SECURITY TO ENHANCE THE SECURITY SITUATION.
05:19:20PM THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT FOR A LONG
05:19:23PM TIME COUNCIL IS NOT IN SUPPORT OF HAVING THE OPERATIONS AND
05:19:26PM SECURITY PLAN.
05:19:28PM IT IS AT YOUR DISCRETION THAT THAT BE REMOVED.
05:19:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO ASK BECAUSE YOU SPENT A LOT OF
05:19:33PM TIME AND DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH.
05:19:35PM I WANT TO PUT WHATEVER RESEARCH YOU HAVE ON THE TABLE.
05:19:37PM LAST QUESTION.
05:19:38PM YOU TALKED A LOT OF APPLICATIONS GOING FORWARD.
05:19:41PM HAS LEGAL LOOKED AT IT AND PUT THIS REQUIREMENT IN FOR
05:19:46PM ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN PERMITTED A LONG TIME AGO?
05:19:49PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: I WILL LET LEGAL SPEAK TO THAT, BUT ANYBODY
05:19:52PM WHO HAS BEEN PERMITTED AND HAS CONTINUED.
05:19:56PM THESE REGULATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE SECURITY GUARD IF THEY ARE
05:20:00PM PAID LOT ON THURSDAY NIGHT, THEY DO NOT MAINTAIN THEM.
05:20:05PM THEY HAVE A CURRENT PERMIT AND OPERATING UNDER THAT PERMIT
05:20:08PM AND VESTED FOR THAT PER PIT.
05:20:10PM THIS IS FOR NEW LOTS GOING FORWARD WHO DO NOT HAVE THAT.
05:20:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE ONES ALREADY PERMITTED DON'T HAVE TO
05:20:15PM HAVE THE SECURITY GUARD AND THE SECURITY PLAN?
05:20:18PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: THEY DO.
05:20:19PM THEY DO.
05:20:20PM >>BILL CARLSON: LEGAL HAS -- I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE
05:20:23PM QUESTION.
05:20:23PM I'M JUST ASKING.
05:20:25PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: RIGHT NOW THE CODE REQUIRES AN ATTENDANT.
05:20:28PM IT DOESN'T SPECIFY WHAT HAD THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THAT
05:20:32PM ATTENDANT ARE.
05:20:33PM AND THE GOAL IS FROM AN ATTEND DONE AT A LICENSED SECURITY
05:20:37PM GUARD.
05:20:37PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY QUESTION IS, IS IT OKAY TO PUT THIS
05:20:43PM REQUIREMENT ON PEOPLE WHO HAVE A WORKING PROPERTY FOR MANY
05:20:47PM YEARS?
05:20:49PM FOR THE LEGAL OPINION.
05:20:52PM I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER I AM JUST ASKING.
05:20:54PM >>SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ: SUSAN JOHNSON-VELEZ, LEGAL
05:20:56PM DEPARTMENT.
05:20:57PM SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING IN RESPONSE TO AN
05:20:59PM IDENTIFIED ISSUE IN -- IN THIS AREA.
05:21:03PM I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE AND THESE ARE STANDARDS THAT
05:21:06PM APPLY TO ALL THE LOTS WITHIN THE DISTRICT WHETHER THEY ARE NEW
05:21:10PM OR ESTABLISHED.
05:21:11PM IT IS JUST A NEW REQUIREMENT TO ADDRESS A PUBLIC SAFETY
05:21:16PM ISSUE THAT COUNCIL.
05:21:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:21:25PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
05:21:26PM I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT MISS FEELEY AND HER TEAM HAS
05:21:30PM DONE.
05:21:30PM ALL OF THEM HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS.
05:21:33PM I AM VERY EXCITED.
05:21:35PM THERE COULD BE TWEAKS AFTER THIS IF WE NEED TO.
05:21:37PM BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS SECURITY.
05:21:39PM AND I HAD THIS BECAUSE TPD OFFICERS WERE TELLING ME OF THE
05:21:47PM PROBLEMS THEY HAD IN THE DISTRICT.
05:21:48PM I WENT DOWN, CLOSED YBOR WITH THEM AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
05:21:51PM I HAVE OPINION WORKING FOR TWO YEARS TO TRY TO FIX THIS
05:21:54PM PROBLEM.
05:21:54PM THE PROBLEM IS SECURITY.
05:21:55PM THE PARKING LOTS, ADDITIONAL IS GREAT, BUT THE MAIN POINT IS
05:22:02PM THE SECURITY PLAN.
05:22:03PM ORLANDO HAD SUCCESS WITH THIS.
05:22:06PM MAJOR DEFELICE IS HERE TO SHOW US HOW IT HEMS.
05:22:12PM HE SHOWED US LAST TIME THAT HE CLEARLY SAID THEY DON'T HAVE
05:22:16PM THE CAPACITY NOR THE EXTRA OFFICERS TO DO THIS.
05:22:18PM IT IS NOT TPD'S RESPONSIBILITY.
05:22:21PM SO I THINK THIS IS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL.
05:22:23PM AND I ABSOLUTELY PLAN TO SUPPORT IT.
05:22:25PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:22:27PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
05:22:30PM AND I KNOW A LOT OF WORK.
05:22:32PM YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON IT AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT
05:22:38PM YOU ARE TREATING THE PARKING LOTS EQUABLY.
05:22:42PM ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HEARD GOING INTO THIS -- WHY TREAT ONE
05:22:46PM PARKING LOT DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS AND I THINK THAT IS
05:22:48PM COMMENDABLE.
05:22:48PM I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE SIGN -- SIGN CLUTTER.
05:22:52PM YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT SIGN CLUTTER BEFORE.
05:22:55PM A CONTROL OF HOW MANY ENTRANCES.
05:22:58PM IF IT IS A FLAT PARKING LORE ARE THE HOW MANY ENTRANCE AS
05:23:01PM LOT CAN HAVE?
05:23:02PM HOW MANY BIG DESIGNATOR.
05:23:06PM ENTRANCE EVERY 15 FEET AND PUT SIGNS EVERY 15 FEET.
05:23:10PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: TRANSPORTATION TECHNICAL STANDARDS OF HOW
05:23:13PM MANY AND THE DIFFERENCE OF THE ACCESS POINTS NEEDS TO BE.
05:23:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR A PARKING LOT?
05:23:17PM VERY GOOD.
05:23:18PM THANK YOU.
05:23:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
05:23:29PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
05:23:30PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GLORIA MOREDA WAS HERE WHEN THEY STARTED
05:23:34PM 15, 17 YEARS.
05:23:35PM I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THOSE FILES SAY.
05:23:37PM I REMEMBER A LONG CONVERSATION OF PARKING LOTS IN YBOR CITY.
05:23:41PM THERE IS ONLY ONE AREA -- AND SOME PEOPLE MAY BE SAYING,
05:23:46PM WHAT DID HE SAY?
05:23:47PM ONLY ONE THAT WE PAY OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR TRAFFIC.
05:23:58PM AND THE CITIZENS PAY $50,000 A DAY CERTAINLY NOT IN
05:24:06PM YBOR CITY AND OPENING EYES TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING BECAUSE
05:24:14PM AT THAT TIME, YOUR LAND, YOUR POLICE OFFICERS, BUT THEY
05:24:18PM AIN'T SPARING A DIME.
05:24:19PM AND IT IS ALL THEIRS.
05:24:28PM I AM FOR A GOOD SOLID CONTRACT FOR EVERYBODY.
05:24:30PM AND THAT DOESN'T COME UP FOR A VOTE UNTIL NOVEMBER.
05:24:33PM THESE ARE THINGS THAT I LOOK AT AND I SAY WHAT A DIFFERENCE.
05:24:37PM I AM NOT AGAINST THIS, BUT IF IT IS FAIR, IT WOULD BE
05:24:40PM EVERYWHERE.
05:24:40PM IF WE HAVE A SEPARATE CONTRACT, YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO
05:24:43PM EVERY THERE.
05:24:44PM SO THESE ARE JUST AN EYE-OPENER OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND HOW
05:24:51PM WE CREATED IT AND HOW WE OWN A PARKING GARAGE AND SOLD IT
05:24:55PM FOR FACE VALUE.
05:24:58PM THAT WAS THE ONLY ONE MAKING MONEY.
05:25:00PM WE HAVE DONE IT ALL.
05:25:01PM NOT US BUT OTHERS HAVE.
05:25:05PM I WAS NOT HERE FOR THE LAST ONE.
05:25:10PM I WAS HERE FOR THE FIRST ONE.
05:25:12PM ONLY ONE.
05:25:14PM UNO.
05:25:15PM BECAUSE I KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.
05:25:17PM OR I THOUGHT I DID.
05:25:19PM I AM NOT THAT SMART TO COME UP WITH THE FUTURE AND COME UP
05:25:22PM WITH SOMETHING.
05:25:22PM THESE ARE THE THINGS -- I AM NOT TROUBLED BY THIS.
05:25:26PM I AM NOT SURPRISE BY THIS.
05:25:28PM SOONER OR LATER WHEN YOU GIVE EVERYTHING AWAY, SOMEBODY MAY
05:25:33PM WANT THE SAME THING.
05:25:34PM THIS MAY BE DIRECT TO WHAT WE ARE DOING.
05:25:36PM SO WHICHEVER WAY I VOTE, I WANT THE OTHERS BIG PARKING
05:25:43PM GARAGE LIKE 10,000 CARS OR WHATEVER TO HAVE THE SAME THING
05:25:46PM THAT THIS ONE HAS.
05:25:47PM THAT IS ALL I AM GOING TO SAY, THANK YOU.
05:25:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
05:25:51PM ANYBODY ELSE?
05:25:52PM IF ANYTHING, THEN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:26:00PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
05:26:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
05:26:08PM >> JASON ACCARDI, THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF 717 PARKING AND
05:26:14PM OWNER OF ACCARDI REAL ESTATE.
05:26:17PM THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
05:26:18PM COULD I ASK FOR A FEW EXTRA MINUTES TO TALK TONIGHT?
05:26:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. SHELBY, DO WE ALLOW SPEAKER WAIVER
05:26:25PM FORMS IN THIS CASE.
05:26:26PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: DO YOU HAVE SPEAKER WAIVER FORMS OTHERWISE
05:26:29PM THREE MINUTES IF WAIVED BY COUNCIL.
05:26:31PM COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
05:26:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY TO WAIVE THE TIME.
05:26:39PM >> MY SON AND MY DAUGHTER.
05:26:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WILL BE ONE MINUTE.
05:26:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO MAKE IT FIVE MINUTES.
05:26:46PM >> THANK YOU.
05:26:48PM AS YOU ALL KNOW, I HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE.
05:26:50PM STEVE MICHELINI AND I HAVE COME IN FRONT OF THE COMMITTEE --
05:26:53PM FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK ABBY AND HER ENTIRE STAFF FOR
05:26:57PM BEING PATIENT WITH THE RESIDENTS OF YBOR AND THE COMMERCIAL
05:27:01PM BUSINESS OWNERS IN YBOR THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
05:27:03PM I BOUGHT MY FIRST PARKING LO THE AND MANAGED MY FIRST
05:27:10PM PROPERTY IN YBOR CITY OVER 34 YEARS AGO.
05:27:12PM A LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESS, BEING IN FRONT OF YOU TALKING OF
05:27:15PM PARKING STANDARDS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US.
05:27:17PM BEING PART OF THE COMMUNITY BEING A PART OF SAFETY AND
05:27:21PM SECURITY IN YBOR CITY, OWNING A BAR, OWNING A PARKING LOT,
05:27:25PM WHATEVER IT IS, IT IS ALL IMPORTANT TO US.
05:27:27PM SO I COMMEND THE CITY STAFF FOR THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
05:27:34PM I TOOK A LOOK AT AND MY STAFF TOOK A LOOK AT, AND I SENT
05:27:38PM EVERYBODY AN E-MAIL OF SOME OF OUR SUGGESTED -- I DON'T WANT
05:27:42PM TO CALL THEM CONCERNS, BUT RECOMMENDATIONS, OBSERVATIONS OF
05:27:45PM THE CHANGES THAT CITY STAFF MADE.
05:27:47PM I AM GOING TO GO QUICKLY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
05:27:51PM TIMING, IF YOU PASS THIS.
05:27:54PM AT ANY POINT I WOULD APPRECIATE LOOKING A AT THIS TIME
05:27:56PM FRAME.
05:27:57PM THEY MOVED IT TO OCTOBER -- I DON'T KNOW WHEN -- SOME TIME
05:28:01PM IN OCTOBER BUT THE AFFECTED PARTIES WILL ASK FOR MORE TIME.
05:28:05PM MAYBE 90 DAYS.
05:28:06PM MAYBE A LITTLE MORE TIME.
05:28:07PM YOU ARE TALKING OF SECURITY REQUIREMENTS, LIABILITY,
05:28:12PM BONDING.
05:28:12PM MY FIRST REQUEST FOR COUNCIL WHEN YOU LOOK AT MY PROPOSED
05:28:16PM MARK-UP I SUBMITTED YESTERDAY AFTERNOON IS TIMING.
05:28:18PM TIMING IS IMPORTANT TO THE OWNER-OPERATOR OF PARKING.
05:28:21PM SECONDLY, I HAVE 34 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE OWNING AND OPERATING
05:28:25PM PARKING LOTS AND GARAGES NATIONWIDE.
05:28:27PM I EMPLOY OVER 5,000 EMPLOYEES.
05:28:30PM WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF PURCHASING PARKING IN NASHVILLE,
05:28:33PM TENNESSEE AS PART OF A DIVESTITURE WHERE WE ARE GOING TO OWN
05:28:38PM AND OPERATE A VERY LARGE MARKET IN THE AREA.
05:28:42PM I STUDIED IT LAST WEEK.
05:28:43PM I MET WITH A LIAISON FROM CITY STAFF AND WE TALKED OF
05:28:47PM SECURITY AND PARKING.
05:28:48PM NOTHING UNDER THEIR ORDINANCE.
05:28:50PM NUMBER ONE MARKET IN THE SOUTH, IN MY OPINION, WITH -- I
05:28:54PM COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW PACKED IT WAS.
05:28:56PM THEY DO A GOOD JOB WITH THEIR M.O.T. PLANS, MOBILITY PLANS
05:29:01PM AND WITH THEIR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
05:29:02PM WE TALK OF SECURITY.
05:29:03PM TODAY, I AM TALKING ABOUT SECURITY.
05:29:06PM THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME, MY COMPANY, AND MY
05:29:09PM STAFF.
05:29:10PM SECURITY AND LIABILITY IN OUR PARKING LOTS.
05:29:13PM I THINK THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON BROUGHT IT UP EARLIER.
05:29:18PM WHAT IS MY CONCERN?
05:29:20PM ONE, A SECURITY REQUIREMENT ON PAID PARKING LOTS ONLY.
05:29:23PM I HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY VOCAL.
05:29:26PM I DON'T UNDERSTAND HAVING A PAID OR UNPAID PARKING LOT
05:29:30PM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM EACH OTHER.
05:29:31PM CRIME DOESN'T DISCRIMINATE.
05:29:34PM UNFORTUNATELY THERE WAS A SHOOTING ON FOURTH AVENUE THIS
05:29:36PM LAST YEAR ON AN UNPAID PARKING LOT.
05:29:40PM AND SOMEBODY DIED.
05:29:43PM I DON'T WANT TO SAY WHOSE PROPERTY IT WAS.
05:29:47PM IT DOESN'T MATTER.
05:29:48PM IF WE ARE HEAR TO TALK OF SAFETY, WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT
05:29:54PM IT AS A WHOLE ON PAID AND UNPAID PARKING LOT.
05:29:57PM A GARAGE OR PARKING LOT, CRIME CAN HAPPEN ANYWHERE.
05:30:01PM I WILL ASK YOU GUYS TO SPECIFICALLY REQUIRE US TO PUT A
05:30:04PM SECURITY PLAN TOGETHER.
05:30:05PM I HAVE ASKED -- AND I THINK MR. MICHELINI ASKED MULTIPLE
05:30:08PM TIMES FOR TPD TO COME UP AND PRESENT A SECURITY PLAN.
05:30:12PM I THINK THEY ARE THE ONE PROVIDING -- SINCE THEY ARE A LAW
05:30:15PM ENFORCEMENT AGENCY A SECURITY PLAN.
05:30:17PM NOT A PRIVATE OWNER/OPERATOR OF A PARKING LOT.
05:30:21PM WE DO RENT PARKING SPACES.
05:30:23PM WE DO REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT.
05:30:25PM BUT A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY TO TALK ABOUT A PLAN, NOT JUST
05:30:29PM FOR PARKING LOTS, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
05:30:31PM HOW ARE WE GOING TO HANDLE EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING.
05:30:34PM OFF STREET, ON STREET AND 7th AVENUE AND ETC.
05:30:38PM OTHER THING IS SIGNAGE AND LANDSCAPE BUFFERS.
05:30:43PM SIGNAGE TO ME IS VERY IMPORTANT.
05:30:45PM I TALKED TO MY TEAM ABOUT -- I HAVE THE WHOLE ENFORCEMENT AT
05:30:48PM CHET'S PARKING LOT.
05:30:50PM AND WHEN YOU PULL IN A PARKING LOT, YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW TO
05:30:54PM PAY, WHERE TO PAY.
05:30:55PM I KNOW AGAIN -- I JUST GOT THIS TONIGHT AND ON THE SCREEN
05:30:58PM THEY MADE ADDITIONAL CHANGES AND FOR US AS AN ORGANIZATION,
05:31:01PM MORE IS BETTER.
05:31:01PM BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE CALLING EVERY DAY AND SAYING, OH, I
05:31:04PM DIDN'T SEE THE SIGN OR I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PAY.
05:31:07PM THE SIGNAGE IS IMPORTANT TO US. WE ARE GOING TO APPRECIATE
05:31:11PM SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ABBY AND HER TEAM PUT TOGETHER ON
05:31:13PM THAT.
05:31:13PM TONIGHT, IF YOU CAN LOOK AT SOME OF THE SUGGESTED CHANGES OR
05:31:18PM STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT.
05:31:20PM I THINK THEY ARE REASONABLE.
05:31:21PM BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ARE OWNER-OPERATORS.
05:31:23PM THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS.
05:31:25PM AS DENNIS KNOWS AND SEVERAL PEOPLE IN YBOR, THE PARKING LOTS
05:31:29PM IN YBOR ARE VERY SMALL.
05:31:31PM I KNOW THESE ARE FOR NEW PARKING LOTS.
05:31:33PM NOT OLD PARKING LOTS.
05:31:34PM OUR CONCERN IS A 15-FOOT SETBACK OFF OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY
05:31:38PM AND SIX-FOOT WALL TAKES OFF A LOT OF REAL ESTATE IF YOU WANT
05:31:41PM TO MAKE IT A PARKING LOT.
05:31:42PM IF YOU CAN JUST KIND OF JUMP AHEAD AND IMAGINE IF I TOOK
05:31:46PM AWAY MY 15 OR 20 PARKING LOTS IN YBOR CITY.
05:31:49PM MADE THEM UNPAVED PARKING LOT.
05:31:53PM DIDN'T HAVE TO MEET YOUR REQUIREMENT AND HAD ALL THIS BUFFER
05:31:56PM REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AND LOSE PARKING IN THE DISTRICT.
05:31:59PM AM I DONE?
05:32:01PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:32:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. ACCARDI -- I ALMOST CALLED YOU BY YOUR
05:32:07PM FIRST NAME.
05:32:09PM GOOD TO SEE YOU.
05:32:10PM I AM HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION TO CHANGE THE DATE TO NOVEMBER
05:32:13PM 1.
05:32:13PM A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
05:32:14PM I UNDERSTAND THIS IS SIGNIFICANT --
05:32:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:32:18PM I THINK WE NEED TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
05:32:23PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME AT ALL.
05:32:26PM JUST TO GET YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT.
05:32:28PM I MEAN WILL NOVEMBER 1 BE A REASONABLE TIME?
05:32:32PM >> YES, SIR.
05:32:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE OTHER THING IS, REFERENCE TO TAMPA PD.
05:32:36PM THAT IS -- BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR.
05:32:38PM WHEN YOU ASK A GOVERNMENT TEEING PROVIDE A PLAN, YOU MAY NOT
05:32:41PM LIKE THE PLAN THAT THEY PROVIDE.
05:32:43PM I THINK DIGITAL CONTROLS FOR YOU MAY BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
05:32:48PM THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT QUESTIONABLE.
05:32:50PM THE SIGN CLUTTER THING.
05:32:51PM I KNOW IT IS AN ISSUE AND SEEN IT -- A PROLIFERATION OF
05:32:55PM SIGNS.
05:32:55PM I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BUT ESPECIALLY IN THE HISTORIC
05:32:58PM DISTRICT, YOU KNOW HAVING SIGN CUTTER IS PROBLEMATIC AND
05:33:06PM BRINGING THAT IN AND MAKING IT MORE REASONABLE AND MORE
05:33:10PM AESTHETICALLY APPEALING.
05:33:13PM LACK OF BUFFER.
05:33:15PM IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE YOU WOULD WANT LESS THAN 15 FEET WITH A
05:33:19PM BARRIER WALL THERE.
05:33:20PM THANK YOU.
05:33:21PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:33:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I MOTION THAT WE LISTEN TO THE REST OF
05:33:24PM PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE ALL COMMENT?
05:33:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
05:33:27PM >> THANK YOU.
05:33:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK?
05:33:35PM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
05:33:35PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I CAN'T HEAR.
05:33:38PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
05:33:39PM >> STEVE MICHELINI.
05:33:40PM I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF 717 PARKING.
05:33:43PM COUNCIL, YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN UP HERE SEVERAL TIMES ASKING
05:33:46PM FOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
05:33:50PM AND THE ISSUE REGARDING A SECURITY PLAN IS A REQUIREMENT
05:33:54PM THAT I DISCUSSED WITH MORRIS MASSEY WHO SAID TO ME THAT YOU
05:33:58PM HAVE TO HAVE A SECURITY PLAN ADOPTED BY THE CRA IN ORDER TO
05:34:02PM ENABLE FUNDING TO BE USED FOR CRA TO SUPPLEMENT THE POLICE
05:34:07PM DEPARTMENT, NOT FOR PERSONNEL, BUT FOR OPERATIONAL EXPENSES.
05:34:11PM AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD A MEETING WITH TPD YESTERDAY.
05:34:16PM AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID WAS, IF YOU GIVE US MORE
05:34:19PM MONEY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO TURN IT DOWN.
05:34:21PM AND ALL OF THAT GOES HAND IN HAND WITH THE SECURITY
05:34:24PM OPERATIONS THAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS
05:34:28PM TO ENGAGE IN.
05:34:28PM AND THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN UNPAID VERSUS PAID LOTS.
05:34:34PM WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
05:34:35PM IT DOESN'T STOP AT A PRIORITY LINE.
05:34:37PM WHATEVER CODE REQUIREMENT YOU ARE PLANNING TO ADOPT SHOULD
05:34:41PM BE UNIFORMLY REQUIRED ACROSS THE BOARD.
05:34:45PM AND YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET EXCEPTIONS.
05:34:47PM YOU KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET EXCEPTIONS WHEN YOU SAY PAID
05:34:51PM VERSUS UNPAID LOTS.
05:34:52PM YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING IN SAYING DON'T DO THAT TO
05:34:56PM ME.
05:34:56PM WELL, YOU ARE DOING THAT TO THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS.
05:34:59PM IF THERE IS A SECURITY ISSUE, IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED AS A
05:35:04PM COMMUNITY-WIDE ISSUE NOT SINGULARLY ON INDIVIDUAL
05:35:07PM PROPERTIES.
05:35:07PM THE CHANGES IN THE CODE HAVE -- HAVE BEEN OCCURRING AS
05:35:10PM RECENTLY, AGAIN -- AS RECENTLY AS TONIGHT.
05:35:13PM YOU HAD SOME IN JULY.
05:35:15PM AND IT IS NOT FAIR TO HAVE US RESPOND TO THESE KIND OF
05:35:19PM CHANGES AND THEN SET A -- YOU KNOW, SET A DEADLINE THAT IS
05:35:24PM UNREASONABLE.
05:35:24PM AND YOU HEARD JASON SAY NOVEMBER 1 WOULD GIVE ENOUGH TIME.
05:35:29PM SO CERTAINLY WE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT CONSIDERATION GOING
05:35:34PM INTO NOVEMBER 1 OPPOSED TO SEPTEMBER -- OR OCTOBER 1 WITH
05:35:39PM WHAT THE STAFF HAS PROPOSED.
05:35:40PM THE ISSUES REGARDING IRRIGATION AND HEDGES AND THINGS LIKE
05:35:44PM THAT.
05:35:45PM IF YOU HAVE TO ADD A WATER METER, IT IS A VERY EXPENSIVE
05:35:48PM PROPOSITION.
05:35:49PM THIS IS NOT CHEAP.
05:35:50PM YOU PAY THE $50 FEE.
05:35:53PM YOU PAY FOR THE APPLICATION FOR A WATER CONNECTION.
05:35:56PM AND THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR CONSTRUCTION FEES.
05:36:02PM AND THEN YOU ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT -- RECENTLY YOU ADOPTED
05:36:05PM A PROVISION THAT WAS WATERING -- THE WATERING CODE -- THE
05:36:10PM RESTRICTION ON WATERING.
05:36:12PM AND REDUCING THAT TO SAVE WATER.
05:36:14PM SO IF YOU HAVE A LOT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU ARE PLANNIN
05:36:22PM XERISCAPE OR PLANNING IRRIGATION TO UTILIZE THE NATURAL FLORA,
05:36:30PM YOU ARE GOING AGAINST THE OTHER CODES.
05:36:32PM I THINK YOU NEED MORE TIME ON THIS.
05:36:34PM YOU REALLY NEED MORE TIME.
05:36:35PM THE STAFF HAS BEEN GOOD WORKING WITH US, AS WELL AS TPD, AND
05:36:41PM APPRECIATE EXTRA TIME TO GET THE DETAILS WORKED OUT.
05:36:43PM THANK YOU.
05:36:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
05:36:44PM ANYBODY ELSE IN PUBLIC COMMENT?
05:36:46PM YES, SIR.
05:36:46PM PLEASE COME UP.
05:36:47PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
05:36:48PM >> DAVID BAILEY, LIVING HISTORIC YBOR.
05:36:53PM AND I WANTED TO SPEAK TO A COUPLE OF COMMENTS WE HEARD
05:36:58PM TONIGHT.
05:36:58PM WE HEARD THAT SECURITY IS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
05:37:01PM IF THE CRA WILL CONSIDER SPENDING MONEY ON SECURITY, ARE
05:37:06PM THEY GOING TO START PAYING FOR THE LIGHTS AND THE PARKING
05:37:09PM STOPPERS.
05:37:09PM A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
05:37:10PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT BEHIND THAT.
05:37:11PM AND IN TERMS OF MORE TIME.
05:37:13PM YOU HEARD HISTORIC YBOR COME TO YOU AND SAID WE HAVE BEEN
05:37:17PM TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR 20 YEARS.
05:37:19PM SO I DON'T THINK -- IF IT GOES TO NOVEMBER, SO BE IT.
05:37:23PM BUT IN TERMS OF ANY MORE TIME THAN THAT OR MORE SECURITY
05:37:26PM PLANS, WE HAVE BEEN THERE.
05:37:27PM DONE THAT.
05:37:28PM LAST HEARING, WE HEARD FROM MAYOR DEFELICE.
05:37:33PM PRETTY CLEAR WHAT THE PATH FORWARD IS GOING TO BE.
05:37:39PM LANDSCAPE SOMETHING FINE WITH CITY LOTS.
05:37:41PM A MIRACLE OR SOMEBODY HAS THE RIGHT.
05:37:42PM FERTILIZER, PRIVATE LOTS.
05:37:45PM CITY LOTS.
05:37:45PM LANDSCAPE SOMETHING DOING JUST FINE.
05:37:48PM I DON'T WANT TO MUDDY THE WATERS BECAUSE I APPRECIATE
05:37:52PM STAFF'S PROGRESS THAT THEY MADE IN EVERYTHING THAT THEY
05:37:55PM PROPOSED.
05:37:56PM HISTORIC YBOR WANTS TO YOU MOVE FORWARD.
05:37:59PM BUT I DO WANT TO JUST SHOW YOU THE NUANCE OF LANGUAGE.
05:38:05PM SO -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THIS.
05:38:07PM AND I DO HAVE COPIES.
05:38:09PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF WE CAN ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT.
05:38:11PM >> SO THREE WORDS MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
05:38:25PM THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT WE RECEIVED LAST WEEK.
05:38:28PM AND THIS -- CAN YOU SEE THAT?
05:38:33PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: CAN YOU ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT?
05:38:35PM OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
05:38:36PM >> SO THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR AND
05:38:40PM WHETHER YOU SAY BY OR VIA.
05:38:43PM "PUBLIC HEARING" IS THE OPERATIVE TERM.
05:38:46PM NOT ALL BLC APPROVALS ARE THE SAME.
05:38:50PM WE HAVE THE BLC COMMISSION.
05:38:56PM FOLKS THAT STAY UP THERE.
05:38:58PM A PUBLIC HEARING.
05:39:00PM AND A LEGAL PROCESS.
05:39:03PM THEN YOU HAVE THE ADMINISTRATOR PROCESS FOR ENTIRE PARKING
05:39:06PM LOTS.
05:39:06PM AND THAT IS NOT SUPPORTED IN THE CODE.
05:39:09PM THERE ARE VARIANCES BEING GIVEN.
05:39:12PM THERE IS NO PUBLIC NOTICE.
05:39:14PM THERE IS NO PUBLIC HEARING.
05:39:16PM AND THERE IS NO COMMISSION DECISION.
05:39:18PM SO THE EASY SOLUTION IS THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT OF JUST
05:39:25PM ADDING BY PUBLIC HEARING.
05:39:30PM AND I GET THERE ARE SEMANTICS HERE THAT SOUND CONFUSING, BUT
05:39:33PM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A COMMISSION, A BOARD, PUBLIC NOTICE,
05:39:37PM AND A STAFF PERSON MAKING DECISIONS THAT THEY ARE NOT
05:39:39PM LEGALLY ABLE TO MAKE.
05:39:41PM FOR AN ENTIRE SITE.
05:39:43PM THEY CAN MAKE DECISIONS OF PIECES A SITE, BUT THEY CAN NOT
05:39:47PM MAKE THE DECISION FOR AN ENTIRE SITE, ESPECIALLY IN THE
05:39:50PM LANDMARK HISTORIC DISTRICT.
05:39:51PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
05:39:54PM >> THANK YOU.
05:39:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
05:39:59PM YES, MA'AM.
05:39:59PM >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL.
05:40:02PM ALISON DUCCETT.
05:40:05PM I JUST WANTED TO RAISE A FEW POINTS.
05:40:07PM OBVIOUSLY, MY FIRM HAS SUBMITTED SEVERAL LETTERS.
05:40:11PM MR. ACCARDI PLACED THAT INTO THE RECORD AND A COUPLE OF
05:40:16PM POINTS YOU NEED TO CONSIDER AS YOU MOVE FORWARD IN THIS
05:40:19PM PROCESS.
05:40:19PM NUMBER ONE IS THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS.
05:40:21PM THERE MAY HAVE BEEN CONFUSION EARLIER AND MAYBE I AM WRONG
05:40:25PM ABOUT THAT, BUT THE SECURITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY TO PRINCIPAL
05:40:30PM PAID PARKING LOT AND DO NOT APPLY TO ANY OTHER PARKING LOT
05:40:33PM IN THE AREA AND THIS IS SIMPLY NOT FAIR TO PAID PRINCIPAL
05:40:38PM PARKING LOT.
05:40:39PM THIS IS AN YBOR CITY WIDE ISSUE.
05:40:42PM SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY APPLIED TO ALL PARKING LOTS IF YOU
05:40:45PM ARE GOING TO REQUIRE SECURITY GUARDS.
05:40:47PM ALL PARKING LOTS THAT ARE OPEN BETWEEN THE HOURS THAT YOU
05:40:49PM ARE REQUIRING SECURITY UNDER THIS OTHER ONE.
05:40:51PM NOTE THE DIFFERENCES.
05:40:53PM SECTION A OF THIS ORDINANCE, YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO APPLY TO
05:40:57PM ALL PUBLIC -- ALL SURFACE PARKING LOTS.
05:41:00PM WHY IS THE SECURITY ONLY APPLIED TO PAID PARKING LOT
05:41:03PM PROVIDERS.
05:41:04PM THEN ANOTHER ITEM THAT IS RELEVANT TO WHAT MR. BAILEY IS
05:41:10PM SPEAKING ABOUT, THE BLC APPROVAL.
05:41:13PM WE HAVE SEEN CLIENTS AND PARTICULARLY 717 PARKING.
05:41:16PM THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR PARKING LOT PROVIDERS
05:41:21PM FOR A 30 YEARS.
05:41:23PM GOING BACK 30 YEARS, IT HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT, AND WE HAVE
05:41:28PM SEEN ISSUES COME BEFORE COUNCIL AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THEY
05:41:31PM HAVE ALL THE APPROVALS IN LINE.
05:41:32PM WE ARE STILL WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT A SEPARATE SET OF
05:41:37PM HEARINGS WHERE THE CLIENT HAVE ALL THE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS
05:41:40PM AND FILED IT IN ALL ACELA BUT TAKES TIME.
05:41:44PM I APPRECIATE THE NOVEMBER POTENTIAL DATE AND I ALSO WANTED
05:41:48PM TO NOTE FOR THOSE SKEPTICAL ON THE NOVEMBER DATE AND ANY
05:41:51PM DATE IN THE FUTURE IS THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THE TIMING
05:41:55PM ALONE IF YOU ARE GOING TO REQUIRE THAT THE LOTS RECEIVE BLC
05:41:59PM APPROVAL OR HAVE A VALID ONE BEFORE NOVEMBER.
05:42:01PM PLEASE UNDERSTAND -- BEFORE SEPTEMBER.
05:42:03PM PLEASE UNDERSTAND PART OF THE TIMING IS THAT THESE RECORDS
05:42:06PM -- WE NEED -- THE PARKING LOT OPERATORS NEED TO MAKE SURE
05:42:10PM THAT THEY ARE ON THE SAME PAGE WITH THE CITY AS TO WHAT IS
05:42:13PM APPROVED.
05:42:13PM WE SUGGESTED FEBRUARY 2024, BUT MR. ACCARDI SAID, IF IT IS
05:42:19PM NOVEMBER, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
05:42:20PM AGAIN, I THINK WE OBJECT AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE ADDITION
05:42:23PM OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IS APPROPRIATE IN THAT SENTENCE.
05:42:29PM IF HE IS SAYING IT IS ALREADY REQUIRED, IT IS SUPERFLUOUS.
05:42:33PM AND ADDS AN ADDITIONAL ELEMENT THAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
05:42:36PM I THINK THAT'S IT.
05:42:37PM SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:42:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
05:42:42PM ANYBODY ELSE?
05:42:43PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
05:42:43PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
05:42:45PM I APPRECIATE A LOT OF THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC AND
05:42:48PM HELPED TO CLARIFY THINGS FOR ME, BECAUSE PARKING LOTS ARE A
05:42:52PM BUSINESS.
05:42:55PM JUST LIKE ANY OTHER BUSINESS, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW RULES.
05:42:57PM IF YOU OPEN A CLUB, YOU GOT TO THE HAVE SECURITY.
05:42:59PM WHAT WE ARE SAYING AS A CITY IS, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A PAID
05:43:02PM PARKING LOT IN YBOR, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR
05:43:05PM SECURITY.
05:43:06PM TPD HAS SECURITY PLAN.
05:43:10PM THEY CLEARLY SHARED IT LAST TIME.
05:43:11PM THEY DON'T WANT TO SHARE THE WHOLE PLAN IN PUBLIC BECAUSE
05:43:19PM SHARING A SECURITY PLAN IS NOT SAFE.
05:43:21PM IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA.
05:43:22PM BUT YOU ALREADY HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM.
05:43:24PM SO IN THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN PAID AND UNPAID.
05:43:26PM UNPAID PARKING LOTS ARE GENERALLY ATTACHED TO BUSINESSES
05:43:32PM THAT HAVE PEOPLE ALREADY WORKING THERE.
05:43:34PM LESS CONCERNED OF UNPAID.
05:43:39PM IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT UNPAID LATER, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH
05:43:43PM THAT.
05:43:44PM BUT THIS A TWO-YEAR PROCESS.
05:43:46PM I DON'T THINK THAT NOVEMBER 1 st A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE THE
05:43:49PM LAST MAJOR ISSUE YBOR CITY WAS HALLOWEEN.
05:43:54PM IF WE WAIT UNTIL AFTER HALLOWEEN, WE ARE OPENING OURSELVES
05:43:57PM UP TO ANOTHER ISSUE.
05:44:02PM I CAN'T DO THAT IN GOOD CONSCIOUS.
05:44:07PM OCTOBER 1 IS A BETTER COMPROMISE.
05:44:09PM PARKING LOT OPERATORS KNEW THIS WAS COMING FOR YEARS.
05:44:13PM NOT A SURPRISE.
05:44:15PM THIS IS NOT NEW.
05:44:15PM NOT SCRAMBLING TO GET THIS DONE.
05:44:17PM IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PLANNING TO GET THIS DONE, I AM SORRY.
05:44:21PM BECAUSE YOU KNEW THIS WAS COMING.
05:44:23PM YOU GOT ADDITIONAL TIME BECAUSE WE DIDN'T APPROVE IT DURING
05:44:27PM THE ACTUAL CYCLE WHICH IS IN JULY.
05:44:29PM AND I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT AT ALL UP WANT TO APPROVE IT
05:44:41PM WITH THE CHANGES THAT MESS FEELEY MADE.
05:44:43PM AND I WILL READ THE ORDINANCE AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT.
05:44:47PM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
05:44:50PM ORDINANCE OF CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA -- AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE
05:44:54PM A DISCUSSION AFTER SECOND --
05:44:59PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FIRST OF ALL, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS STILL
05:45:01PM OPEN.
05:45:01PM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:45:03PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
05:45:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM --
05:45:07PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MAYBE YOU CAN KEEP IT OPEN UNTIL YOU HAVE
05:45:10PM ALL YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
05:45:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:45:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: BECAUSE I HAVE QUESTIONS.
05:45:14PM MR. BAILEY, COULD YOU -- COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION?
05:45:19PM I THINK -- I THINK IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY -- NOT TO PUT
05:45:26PM WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH -- BUT NEIGHBORS' NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND
05:45:31PM WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE ANY NEW -- TALKING ABOUT GOING
05:45:35PM FORWARD.
05:45:35PM NOT TO HAVE ANY NEW PARKING LOTS.
05:45:37PM BUT THE CITY -- KIND OF THE COMPROMISE TO PUT THE
05:45:41PM REQUIREMENTS IN.
05:45:42PM HAS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPROVED THIS?
05:45:44PM OR ARE YOU OKAY WITH GOING FORWARD WITH THE RULES AND
05:45:47PM REQUIREMENTS?
05:45:47PM >> I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:45:49PM I AM A BOARD MEMBER ON THE ASSOCIATION.
05:45:52PM WE DISCUSSED THIS AT LENGTH.
05:45:54PM YOU HEARD FROM US MANY TIMES BEFORE.
05:45:56PM WE HAVE SEEN THIS LANGUAGE AND WORKED WITH STAFF THROUGH THE
05:45:58PM PROCESS.
05:45:59PM THE POINT THAT I MADE TONIGHT IS THE -- THE NUANCE -- THE
05:46:05PM THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS LOOKING FOR.
05:46:06PM BUT ALL IN ALL, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD.
05:46:09PM >>BILL CARLSON: WE ARE NOT -- MY QUESTION IS WE ARE NOT
05:46:14PM BANNING NEW -- SOME OF THESE RULES ARE APPLIED EXISTING.
05:46:17PM WE ARE NOT BANNING NEW PARKING LOTS.
05:46:20PM SOMEONE CAN BUILD A NEW PARKING LOT UNDER THESE GUIDELINES.
05:46:24PM ARE YOU TO OKAY WITH THAT?
05:46:26PM >> THE BOARD UNDERSTANDS THERE IS A SPECIAL USE REQUIREMENT
05:46:29PM AND HAS TO GO IN FRONT OF A PUBLIC HEARING.
05:46:31PM THAT IS A PUBLIC PROCESS.
05:46:33PM FOR SOME REASON THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED TO GET BEHIND A NEW
05:46:36PM PARK LOG LOT FOR SOME REASON, WE COULD DO THAT.
05:46:39PM >>BILL CARLSON: OKAY.
05:46:43PM >> TAKES AWAY FROM OUR USE OF RIGHT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
05:46:47PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS FOR ABBYE FEELEY.
05:46:49PM MAYBE SUSAN, I AM NOT SURE WITH.
05:46:51PM THE NUANCE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT MR. BAILEY DISCUSSED
05:46:56PM .WHAT IS THE CITY IMPLICATION OF CHANGING THAT LANGUAGE?
05:47:01PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: SO -- ABBYE FEELEY.
05:47:07PM RIGHT NOW THIS IS THE STATEMENT.
05:47:09PM WE HAVE BEEN CALLED AT THE RELATIONSHIP OF WHAT HAPPENED IN
05:47:11PM 2010.
05:47:12PM WHERE IS THE SIX MONTHS.
05:47:13PM THAT -- THAT STATEMENT THAT IS BEING PLACED IN THERE IS THE
05:47:17PM CONFORMING LOT STATEMENT FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAS RECEIVED A
05:47:21PM PERMIT UP UNTIL THE DATE OF THE IMPLICATION OF THE NEW CODE.
05:47:27PM SO THAT IS WHAT -- YOU CAN'T SAY "PUBLIC HEARING" BECAUSE IT
05:47:31PM IS NOT GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL AFTER YOU APPROVE
05:47:35PM THIS CODE.
05:47:40PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: AFTER WE APPROVE THIS CODE, IT WILL BE A
05:47:44PM PUBLIC HEARING.
05:47:44PM >>ABBYE FEELEY: EVERY NEW LOT.
05:47:46PM UNLESS YOU HAVE THE BLC PERMIT AND MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS.
05:47:51PM SOME UNDER CODE ENFORCEMENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT IF
05:47:55PM THEY DON'T -- THEY MAY HAVE NOW GOTTEN A C.A. THROUGH
05:48:01PM THE BLC, BUT UNTIL THEY GO AND INSTALL WHAT IS IN THAT C.A.
05:48:05PM COME NOVEMBER 1 IF THAT IS THE DATE YOU SELECT, THEY ARE NOT
05:48:08PM GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE.
05:48:09PM C.A. DOES NOT MAKE NEW COMPLIANCE.
05:48:12PM YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE GOTTEN
05:48:14PM APPROVAL TO HAVE.
05:48:16PM THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
05:48:17PM YOU GOT YOUR BLC'S APPROVAL.
05:48:21PM YOU MADE THE IMPROVEMENTS AND NORTHBOUND OPERATION.
05:48:23PM AND AS OF -- IF YOU ARE GOING WHATEVER THE DATE IS, YOU ARE
05:48:27PM CONFORMING AND THAT DRAWS YOUR LINE TO SAY, ANYBODY ELSE WHO
05:48:30PM COMES IN, YOU ARE COMING TO THIS COUNCIL.
05:48:33PM THERE IS NO OTHER ROUTE FOR YOU.
05:48:36PM YOU ARE NOW A SPECIAL USE AND COMING TO THIS COUNCIL.
05:48:40PM GO TO PUBLIC HEARING AND BLC FOR RECOMMENDATION LIKE YOU
05:48:43PM WOULD ON A REZONING OR ANOTHER SPECIAL USE.
05:48:45PM IT WILL COME TO YOU AND YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
05:48:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
05:48:50PM MR. BAILEY, DOES THAT ANSWER -- SATISFY YOU?
05:48:56PM >> THE CLEAREST -- I UNDERSTAND WHAT MISS FEELEY IS
05:49:00PM SAYING.
05:49:01PM AND I BELIEVE HER WHEN SHE SAYS THAT, THE CLEAREST EXAMPLE
05:49:05PM WHERE THINGS WENT WRONG ARE THE BLUE RIBBON PARK LOG THE --
05:49:12PM PARKING LOT.
05:49:13PM THAT IS THE PROCESS.
05:49:14PM THERE WAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL AT SOME TIME IN THE
05:49:18PM PAST NOT A PUBLIC HEARING I WAS AWARE OF.
05:49:22PM AND MR. MICHELINI MAY KNOW BETTER THAN I DO.
05:49:24PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU TALK TO US.
05:49:26PM JASON, HOLD ON.
05:49:28PM >> HERE IS MY POINT.
05:49:29PM THE -- ANY SUBSEQUENT APPROVALS TO THAT LOT OVER TIME, SO
05:49:36PM WHETHER IT IS THE 2010 APPROVAL OR THE 2023 APPROVAL, THOSE
05:49:40PM ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS ARE CIRCUMVENTING THE PUBLIC
05:49:44PM PROCESS.
05:49:44PM WE DON'T GET TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING APPROVED
05:49:47PM ADMINISTRATIVELY, THAT IS WHY WE ARE ASKING FOR THE BY
05:49:51PM PUBLIC HEARING CLENDENIN YOU THIS SAY APPLICABLE.
05:49:54PM IF WE PASS THIS TONIGHT, ALL NEW PARKING LOTS -- WHATEVER
05:49:58PM HAPPENED IN THE PAST WON'T MATTER.
05:49:59PM IF I AM HEARING MISS FEELEY CORRECT, ALL NEW PARKING LOTS
05:50:03PM WILL BE SUBJECT WITH PUBLIC HEARING.
05:50:05PM >> THE LANGUAGE WE ARE SUBMITTED, ALL PRINCIPAL PARKING LOTS
05:50:09PM THAT RECEIVED A BARRIO LATINO COMMISSION BLC APPROVAL AS OF
05:50:15PM SEPTEMBER 5, 2024, AND HAVE CONTINUED TO OPERATE IN
05:50:18PM ACCORDANCE WITH THE BLC APPROVAL WILL BE CONSIDERED
05:50:22PM CONFORMING WITH THE SUBSECTION.
05:50:24PM THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TAKING OBJECTION.
05:50:25PM CLENDENIN OKAY, THANK YOU.
05:50:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:50:30PM >>LUIS VIERA: I A--
05:50:35PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME -- COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK -- SOME OF
05:50:38PM THE STUFF I HEARD.
05:50:39PM IT IS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
05:50:40PM SOME OF THIS IS -- SO I AM NOT -- I AM NOT TERRIBLY
05:50:45PM EMPATHETIC OF THE WATER METER THAT YOU REFERRED TO.
05:50:47PM YOU HEARD MY POINT ON SIGN CLUTTER.
05:50:55PM I AM 100% EMPATHETIC OF TYPES OF PARKING LOTS.
05:51:00PM AND, YOU KNOW WHAT, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THINGS ARE
05:51:02PM INCREMENTAL.
05:51:03PM WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
05:51:04PM I GET THAT.
05:51:05PM AND I BELIEVE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK SAID THE SAME THING.
05:51:08PM LET'S START SOME PLACE.
05:51:09PM WE CAN START HERE AND IF WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OTHER
05:51:13PM PARKING LOTS, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
05:51:15PM WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
05:51:17PM STAFF HAS PUT A LOT OF TIME IN THIS.
05:51:19PM VERY ACCOMMODATING.
05:51:20PM THIS HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT.
05:51:23PM THIS IS A BIG PUBLIC CONCERN.
05:51:25PM AND YBOR CITY IS A -- IT IS A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
05:51:28PM IT IS AN IMPORTANT ECONOMIC DRIVER FOR THE CITY OF TAMPA.
05:51:32PM IT IS ONE OF OUR CROWN JEWELS.
05:51:34PM ANYTHING WE CAN TO DO IMPROVE THAT AND THE SAFETY AND
05:51:40PM ENJOYMENT OF THE AREA, I AM ALL FOR IT.
05:51:43PM >> IF I COULD MAKE ONE COMMENT.
05:51:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: LET ME GO THROUGH THE DAIS.
05:51:48PM COUNCILMAN VIERA AND COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:51:50PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO SPEAK -- ONCE WE CLOSE GET MY
05:51:56PM THOUGHTS ON IT, ETC.
05:51:57PM ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST AND COUNCILMAN HURTAK, YOUR POINT
05:52:00PM IS VERY WELL TAKEN ON HALLOWEEN.
05:52:02PM MAYBE SINCE THERE IS AN ASSERTED NEED FOR MORE TIME.
05:52:06PM MAYBE OCTOBER 25 WHICH IS THAT FRIDAY.
05:52:08PM SO, AGAIN, YOUR POINT OF HALLOWEEN IS VERY WELL TAKEN.
05:52:11PM MAYBE THE WEEK BEFORE.
05:52:13PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HOW ABOUT THE MIDDLE, BECAUSE THE -- THE
05:52:15PM PROBLEM IS IF YOU START IT -- THAT IS WHEN THEY WILL
05:52:18PM CELEBRATE.
05:52:18PM SO HOW ABOUT OCTOBER 15?
05:52:22PM >>LUIS VIERA: SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
05:52:23PM THAT IS WHAT I AM LOOKING AT.
05:52:25PM AGAIN, I WILL GIVE MY COMMENTS ONE WE CLOSE.
05:52:27PM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
05:52:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
05:52:30PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WILL MAKE MY COMMENTS BEFORE WE CLOSE, BUT
05:52:35PM I WOULD RATHER NOT VOTE ON A FLAWED -- WHAT I THINK IS A
05:52:40PM FLAWED DOCUMENT.
05:52:40PM I THINK THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH IT THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
05:52:44PM BE WORKED OUT LATER.
05:52:45PM THE ISSUES IN YBOR THAT -- THE ISSUES IN YBOR ARE MUCH
05:52:51PM BIGGER THAN PARKING LOTS.
05:52:53PM AND WE KNOW WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF POLICE.
05:52:54PM WE KNOW WE HAVE A FUNDING ISSUE.
05:52:57PM WE HAVE GOT TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT WE CONDUCT PUBLIC SAFETY
05:53:02PM IN YBOR.
05:53:03PM AND I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL ITERATIONS OF THAT,
05:53:07PM BUT THAT IS A BIGGER STRATEGY WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE
05:53:10PM PARKING LOT.
05:53:10PM I PERSONALLY HAVE SEEN A VIDEO ON SOMEONE'S PRIVATE LOT THAT
05:53:15PM IS NOT A PAID LOT, WHERE THERE WAS A DRIVE-BY SHOOTING AND
05:53:19PM THIS ONE WAS NOT PUBLICIZED.
05:53:22PM ONE OF THEM HAPPENED THE SAME NIGHT ON HALLOWEEN BUT NOT IN
05:53:31PM THE PAID LOTS.
05:53:32PM EVEN IF WE HAVE SHOOTING IN THE PAID LOTS, THAT SHOOTING
05:53:34PM HAPPENS AGAIN BECAUSE NOBODY IS GUARDING THE OTHER LOTS.
05:53:37PM WE NEED A SYSTEMIC WAY OF RESOLVING THIS.
05:53:40PM AND ALSO, IT DOESN'T DO GOOD TO PULL POLICE OFF HOWARD
05:53:44PM AVENUE AND PUT THEM IN YBOR OR PULL THEM OUT OF YBOR AND PUT
05:53:47PM THEM ON HOWARD AVENUE.
05:53:51PM WE NEED CONSISTENT POLICING THROUGHOUT.
05:53:53PM AND WE NEED TO OVERALL ADDRESS THE SHORTAGE ISSUE.
05:53:57PM I WISH WE COULD WORK CLOSER FOR UNDERLYING ISSUE.
05:54:00PM SHOULD I MAKE A MOTION TO ALLOW MICHELINI TO RESPOND OR -- I
05:54:07PM WILL MAKE MOTION TO HAVE HIM -- YOU GUYS CAN VOTE ON IT.
05:54:11PM I MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE HIM RESPOND FOR ONE MINUTE.
05:54:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COME UP FOR 60 SECONDS.
05:54:17PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOBODY SECONDED IT.
05:54:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
05:54:22PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
05:54:22PM THIS ANY OPPOSED?
05:54:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NAY.
05:54:26PM >> MY ONLY POINT IS YOU -- STEVE MICHELINI.
05:54:29PM THEY JUST ASKED ME A QUESTION?
05:54:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: LISTEN --
05:54:34PM >> I AM NOT GOING TO GO TIT FOR TAT WITH YOU.
05:54:37PM YOU MADE SEVERAL REVISIONS FOR THIS.
05:54:41PM WHY DON'T YOU CONSIDER PAID AND UNPAID LOTS AS PART OF THESE
05:54:44PM REVISIONS.
05:54:45PM YOU JUST HAD STAFF RECOMMEND FOUR ADDITIONAL CHANGES.
05:54:48PM IN JULY, YOU HAD OTHER CHANGES WHERE YOU INSERTED
05:54:52PM REQUIREMENTS FOR IRRIGATION.
05:54:53PM WHAT IS THE ISSUE HERE?
05:54:54PM WE ARE JUST ASKING TO YOU MAKE ACROSS THE BOARD TO MAKE IT
05:54:57PM RESPONSIBLE AND FAIR.
05:54:59PM THE SECURITY ISSUE IS BROAD.
05:55:01PM AND IT IS AN AREA-WIDE ISSUE.
05:55:04PM NOT A SINGULAR ISSUE RELATING TO A PAID PARKING LOT.
05:55:07PM THANK YOU.
05:55:08PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
05:55:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION --
05:55:14PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I HAVE TO CORRECT MYSELF ON WHAT I SAID
05:55:16PM EARLIER.
05:55:16PM AS I WAS THINKING BACK.
05:55:17PM I FORGOT A MISTAKE MADE WHEN THAT DEAL WAS CONSUMMATED
05:55:22PM SEPTEMBER 6, 1996.
05:55:25PM IN THE CITY THE DEED OF THE WHOLE PROPERTY TO HILLSBOROUGH
05:55:28PM COUNTY -- THE CITY CAN'T WAIVE AD VALOREM TAXES, BUT THE
05:55:32PM COUNTY CAN.
05:55:34PM I AM SORRY I MADE A MISTAKE.
05:55:35PM I HAD TO GO BACK AND REWIRE.
05:55:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION TO FORGIVE.
05:55:41PM >> SECOND.
05:55:42PM >> OPPOSED?
05:55:44PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION TO CLOSE.
05:55:45PM MOTION TO CLOSE.
05:55:50PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO READ THE ORDINANCE, AND I
05:55:55PM WAS INTERRUPTED.
05:55:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
05:55:58PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, OF
05:56:01PM PUBLICLY AMENDMENTS MAKE REGULAR VISIONS TO THE CITY OF
05:56:05PM TAMPA CODE OF ORDINANCES AMENDING CHAPTER 27 ZONING AND LAND
05:56:08PM DEVELOPMENT.
05:56:08PM AMENDING 27-178, ALTERNATIVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
05:56:13PM REPEALING ALL ORDINANCE AND ALL ORDINANCES THEREWITH.
05:56:17PM PROVIDING SEVERABILITY.
05:56:19PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
05:56:20PM INCLUDING THE FOUR REVISIONS AND CHANGING THE DATE FROM
05:56:23PM OCTOBER 1 TO OCTOBER 15.
05:56:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND?
05:56:27PM >>LUIS VIERA: SECOND.
05:56:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
05:56:30PM ANY DISCUSSION.
05:56:35PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
05:56:36PM I WANTED TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS.
05:56:38PM I SPOKE TO PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM AND THE KNOWS LIVE IN
05:56:41PM NEIGHBORHOODS, THE PROPERTY OWNERS, THEIR ADVOCATES, ETC.
05:56:44PM I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS.
05:56:45PM I AM GLAD TO SEE THERE IS MORE TIME BEING GIVEN.
05:56:49PM IT IS REALLY WELL TAKEN WE HAVE MADE FOUR CHANGES TODAY AND
05:56:53PM YOU SAY, LISTEN, DISCUSS THIS FURTHER AND MAKE MORE
05:56:57PM REVISIONS BUT I DON'T WANT TO IRREVOCABLY KICK THE CAN DOWN
05:57:03PM THE ROAD.
05:57:04PM THIS REPRESENTS A REAL CHALLENGE, A CHALLENGE THAT EVERYBODY
05:57:06PM IN THIS ROOM ACKNOWLEDGES IS CRIME AND PUBLIC SAFETY IN YBOR
05:57:09PM CITY AND THE PROBLEM IS HOW ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS IT?
05:57:13PM THE TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT WHO WILL DO THEIR CONTROL
05:57:16PM ADDRESS IT AND A ROLE TO PLAY FOR BUSINESSES.
05:57:18PM I SALUTE COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
05:57:21PM I KNOW ORDINANCE AND WORKING AND NOT EASY WHEN YOU HAVE
05:57:24PM COMPETING SIDES.
05:57:25PM AND YOU ARE TRYING TO GET AS MANY FOLKS ON BOARD.
05:57:29PM FOR ME, THE MAIN ISSUE IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
05:57:32PM I WANT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD FOR THAT ISSUE.
05:57:34PM A LOT OF CHALLENGES IN YBOR CITY.
05:57:37PM THIS IS TAILORED FOR THOSE CHALLENGES.
05:57:40PM I HEAR OF FOLKS PAID VERSUS UNPAID.
05:57:42PM I AM NOT GOING TO REPEAT WHAT WAS SAID BEFORE BUT I GUESS I
05:57:45PM WILL.
05:57:45PM DEALING A PAID PARKING LOT, THAT IS WHAT THE ABOUT IS.
05:57:49PM A UNPAID PARKING LOT BUSINESS AND MONETARY EFFORT THAT
05:57:53PM DRIVES BENEFIT WOULD YOU KNOW THINK FROM THAT UNPAID PARK
05:57:57PM LOT, THE POTENTIALLY BUT NOT THE VERY UNIQUE NATURE OF YOUR
05:58:00PM BUSINESS.
05:58:00PM AND, THEREFORE, I THINK THERE IS MORE OF A RATIONAL BASIS
05:58:05PM FOR THAT DISTINCTION HERE.
05:58:07PM AGAIN, I HEAR THE CONCERN OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS 100%.
05:58:10PM AS WE WORK ON THIS.
05:58:14PM IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT CAN BE CHANGED.
05:58:16PM I REMEMBER WHEN WE DID THE APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE.
05:58:19PM I TOLD OUR CONTRACTOR FRIENDS, IF THERE ARE THINGS YOU THINK
05:58:22PM NEED TO BE CHANGED, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS.
05:58:24PM WHEN YOU PASS THE ORDINANCE IT BECOMES THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,
05:58:29PM NOT THE SUGGESTIONS BUT WE CAN CHANGE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS,
05:58:35PM SO TO SPEAK IF THERE IS A DEMONSTRATED CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO
05:58:37PM BE DONE.
05:58:38PM FOR ME IT IS PUBLIC SAFETY.
05:58:39PM AND I HEAR THE CONCERNS OF OUR FRIENDS IN YBOR WHO LIVE OUT
05:58:43PM THERE WANTED TO MAKE YBOR CITY LIVABLE, WALKABLE, 100%
05:58:47PM QUALITY, IT INCLUDES THE BUSINESS AND PROPERTY.
05:58:50PM EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM AGREES WITH THAT.
05:58:52PM A RESPECTFUL DISAGREEMENT OF HOW TO GET THERE.
05:58:55PM I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND THAT'S IT.
05:58:57PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
05:59:02PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE QUOTE DO SOMETHING IMPERFECTLY THAN
05:59:06PM PERFECTLY.
05:59:06PM THAT IS SOMETHING WE DO ON COUNCIL.
05:59:08PM MAKING THE DECISIONS, IT IS NEVER BLACK AND WHITE.
05:59:12PM FINDING SOME PLACE IN THE GRAY AREA.
05:59:14PM LIKE YOU SAID, I AM EMPATHETIC WITH THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF
05:59:19PM PARKING LOT AND LOOK IN THE FUTURE OF TRYING TO RESOLVE THAT
05:59:22PM DIFFERENCE.
05:59:22PM YOU KNOW, I -- I STILL THINK THAT NOVEMBER IS NOVEMBER 1 --
05:59:33PM I WANT TO BE AS ACCOMMODATING AS POSSIBLE AND RUNNING A
05:59:36PM BUSINESS AND A MILLION OTHER THINGS GOING ON AND DIFFICULT
05:59:39PM TO ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND I UNDERSTAND THE POINT
05:59:42PM ABOUT THE -- ABOUT THE HOLIDAY, BUT, YOU ARE KNOW, THAT THIS
05:59:46PM HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
05:59:48PM AND TWO WEEKS MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN A BUSINESS TO BE ABLE TO
05:59:51PM GET THE JOB DONE, I THINK IT IS A VERY REASONABLE REQUEST.
05:59:55PM I GUESS FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, I WILL MAKE THE MOTION TO
05:59:59PM CHANGE TO NOVEMBER 1 TO SEE WHERE IT GOES.
06:00:01PM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS APPETITE ON THAT OR NOT, BUT I
06:00:05PM THINK THAT NOVEMBER 1 IS A REASONABLE DATE.
06:00:07PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN FOR
06:00:10PM NOVEMBER 1 INSTEAD OF OCTOBER 15.
06:00:11PM IS THERE A SECOND?
06:00:13PM A SECOND?
06:00:13PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST AS I SUSPECTED.
06:00:15PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL RIGHT.
06:00:16PM ANYTHING ELSE?
06:00:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S ALL.
06:00:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY ELSE?
06:00:19PM IF NOT, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
06:00:20PM YES, SIR.
06:00:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: AS I SAID, I DOESN'T TO VOTE ON AN IMPERFECT
06:00:26PM PLAN.
06:00:26PM IF THIS -- IT SOUNDS LIKE IS GOING TO PASS.
06:00:30PM AND IT REALLY NEEDS TO EVOLVE AND BE EDITED.
06:00:35PM I CAN'T VOTE AGAINST IF IT IS GOING TO BE APPROVED.
06:00:38PM I WOULD RATHER NOT VOTE ON A IMPERFECT PLAN BUT NEEDS TO
06:00:44PM EVOLVE.
06:00:44PM THERE IS A CRIME PROBLEM IN YBOR THAT WE NEED TO BE
06:00:47PM RESOLVED.
06:00:48PM I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR FOR PEOPLE NOVEMBER 1.
06:00:50PM THEY GOT TO GO BEFORE THE BARRIO, RIGHT?
06:00:54PM ANYWAY, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE NEED TO DO ON
06:00:58PM HALLOWEEN IS GET THE CRA TO PUT IN SOME EMERGENCY MONEY.
06:01:01PM I KNOW THE -- SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN YBOR WERE
06:01:04PM TRYING GET THE LEGISLATURE TO FUND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
06:01:08PM TO PUT PEOPLE THERE, BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T ENOUGH
06:01:12PM RESOURCES.
06:01:12PM WE HAVE GOT TO DO SOMETHING SYSTEMATICALLY, BECAUSE WE
06:01:16PM ACTUALLY HAD A SHOOTING IN AN UNPAID LOT LAST YEAR ON
06:01:20PM HALLOWEEN.
06:01:20PM WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT?
06:01:22PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE SHOULD THAT DISCUSSION IN A
06:01:24PM WORKSHOP BETWEEN NOW AND HALLOWEEN ABOUT SPECIFICALLY THAT
06:01:27PM -- THAT CELEBRATION.
06:01:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: MY BOTTOM LINE IS I CAN'T VOTE AGAINST IT,
06:01:33PM BUT I DON'T LIKE THE DISPARITIES IN HERE AND I PUSH TO
06:01:37PM CHANGE THEM RIGHT AWAY.
06:01:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION AND A SECOND.
06:01:39PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:01:40PM ANY OPPOSED?
06:01:44PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED -- DID YOU SAY, NO?
06:01:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SAID NO.
06:01:50PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED.
06:01:52PM MANISCALCO VOTING NO.
06:01:52PM SEPTEMBER 5, 2024, 10:00 A.M., OF TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
06:02:00PM CHAMBERS 315 KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA
06:02:04PM 33602.
06:02:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:02:07PM ITEM NUMBER 4.
06:02:10PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:02:13PM REZONE 1314 TEMPLE STREET ARE RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16 TO --
06:02:22PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEFORE YOU BEGIN, IF YOU WERE GOING TO
06:02:25PM SPEAK ON 4, 5, 6 OR 7, PLEASE STAND AND WE WILL SWEAR YOU IN.
06:02:29PM [SWEARING IN]
06:02:37PM AND WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE REGISTER TODAY ARE ITEM NUMBER 7.
06:02:40PM WHEN WE GET TO IT, WE WILL SWEAR THEM IN.
06:02:42PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:02:45PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4, REZ-24-43.
06:02:49PM REZONE 3814 TEMPLE STREET FROM RM-16 TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL
06:02:59PM MULTIFAMILY.
06:03:00PM TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:03:03PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
06:03:05PM CENTRAL PLANNING DISTRICT IN THE EAST URBAN VILLAGE.
06:03:08PM SOUTH -- SORRY, EAST OF NORTH 50th STREET OR NORTH OF EAST
06:03:13PM 28th AVENUE.
06:03:13PM THERE IS TYPICALLY -- THIS ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL USES, BUT
06:03:19PM IT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED WITH SOME VACANT LOTS, SOME
06:03:23PM RESIDENTIAL, AND A COMMERCIAL USE UP HERE ON THE CORNER.
06:03:25PM AND WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL EAST OF NORTH 50th.
06:03:29PM THE FUTURE LAND USE IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35.
06:03:32PM THAT ALLOWS UP TO COMMERCIAL GENERAL USES.
06:03:35PM SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU OF RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 18 IS
06:03:39PM WELL WITHIN THAT FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY, WHAT IT HAS BEEN
06:03:43PM PLANNING FOR, AND WE HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL-20 AS -- WHICH IS
06:03:47PM TYPICALLY -- THIS IS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST OF THE
06:03:49PM SITE, EAST OF TEMPLE.
06:03:51PM AND THEN RESIDENTIAL-10 TO THE SOUTH.
06:03:55PM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 AND MORE COMMUNITY USE 35.
06:03:58PM THIS IS GOING TO PROVIDE MORE HOUSING OPTIONS.
06:04:00PM THAT RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 18.
06:04:03PM IT GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY TO PLAY WITH, WELL WITHIN
06:04:06PM THE COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 FUTURE LAND USE DENSITY.
06:04:11PM AND SO WE FOUND THAT IT WAS COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE TO
06:04:15PM SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND PROVIDE A NICE
06:04:17PM TRANSITION AND DENSITY AS ONE MOVES EAST OF THE SITE.
06:04:20PM SO THAT IS OUR FINDING.
06:04:23PM THANK YOU.
06:04:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YES, SIR.
06:04:26PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:04:36PM AND START OFF WITH OUR AERIAL MAP.
06:04:38PM HERE IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE OUTLINED IN RED OFF OF TEMPLE
06:04:42PM STREET.
06:04:42PM AND THEN YOU HAVE NORTH 50th STREET TO THE WEST.
06:04:46PM THERE IS A LOT ZONED CG TO THE SOUTH OF IT AND A FEW MORE CG
06:04:52PM LOTS SOUTH OF THAT.
06:04:53PM MOVE TO HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
06:04:54PM CI USE ALONG HILLSBOROUGH AVENUE.
06:04:57PM AND THAT WHOLE SECTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE IS RM-16.
06:05:01PM NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, WE HAVE SING SINGLE-FAMILY
06:05:05PM DETACHED HOUSES.
06:05:06PM SAME WITH OVER HERE.
06:05:07PM THIS IS ACTUALLY A COMMERCIAL USE.
06:05:09PM SEMI-DETACHED AND ATTACHED USE ALONG THE SIDE HERE.
06:05:14PM AND TO THE WEST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 50th STREET.
06:05:18PM THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT -- IT MAY BE FAMILIAR FOR YOU,
06:05:21PM REZONED NOT TOO LONG AGO FOR A FUNERAL HOME AND CEMETERY.
06:05:25PM SINCE THIS IS EUCLIDIAN, THERE ARE NO SITE PLANS OR
06:05:29PM ELEVATION SO AS WE WILL GO INTO THE PICTURES.
06:05:31PM IN IS LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE SUBJECT SITE FROM TEMPLE
06:05:35PM STREET.
06:05:36PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST.
06:05:37PM LITTLE BETTER VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:05:44PM THIS IS SOUTH ON TEMPLE STREET.
06:05:46PM THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
06:05:47PM LOOKING NORTH.
06:05:51PM SUBJECT SITE.
06:05:52PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST ACROSS THE STREET.
06:05:54PM YOU CAN SEE THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES.
06:05:57PM THIS IS JUST NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:06:01PM THE SUBJECT SITE IS HERE.
06:06:02PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED.
06:06:04PM THIS IS THE CG LOT JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE.
06:06:08PM THESE ARE SOME OF THE DETACHED AND SEMI DETACHED USES ON THE
06:06:14PM MAP ALL ON THE SAME BLOCK AS THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:06:17PM AT THE VERY END OF THE SUBJECT BLOCK, IT SHOW IT IS AS
06:06:21PM VACANT ON THE AERIAL MAP, BUT A NEW CONSTRUCTION OF SYMPHONY
06:06:26PM DETACHED USES.
06:06:27PM THIS IS ONCE WE ROUND THE CORNER ALONG 50th STREET.
06:06:31PM THE ENACT THE SUBJECT SITE IS RIGHT HERE LOOKING DIRECTLY AT
06:06:38PM THE BACK OF THE SUBJECT SITE AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT THROUGH
06:06:41PM THE VEGETATION BUT WANT TO GIVE YOU A LOOK AT WHAT IT LOOKS
06:06:43PM LIKE ON TEMPLE AND 50th AND LOOKING ACROSS WEST ON 50th
06:06:47PM TOWARD THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:06:48PM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND COMPLIANCE STAFF FOUND THE
06:06:51PM REQUEST CONSISTENT.
06:06:52PM FOUR DWELLING UNITS CAN BE CONSIDERED ON THE FLIGHT OF THE
06:06:56PM RESIDENTIAL 18 ZONING DISTRICT.
06:06:58PM REQUESTED DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT
06:07:00PM PATTERN OF THE SURROUND AREA AND APPROPRIATE IN LOCATION AND
06:07:03PM PROVIDE INFILL HOUSING.
06:07:04PM LASTLY THE SUBJECT SITE IF IS IN THE EAST TAMPA OVERLAY
06:07:09PM DEVELOPMENT AND MUST COMPLY WITH THE OVERLAY STANDARDS AT
06:07:11PM THE TIME OF PERMITTING I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY
06:07:14PM QUESTIONS OF MANISCALCO ANY QUESTIONS?
06:07:16PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
06:07:18PM DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT?
06:07:20PM COME ON UP.
06:07:21PM PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:07:22PM >> GOOD AFTERNOON.
06:07:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HELLO.
06:07:27PM >> HI.
06:07:28PM MY NAME IS MARIA CULEY, AND I AM THE APPOINTED AGENT.
06:07:33PM AS WE STATED, WE WANTED TO DO REZONING OF THE PROPERTY
06:07:38PM FROM RM-16 TO RM-18.
06:07:41PM THAT IS WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING.
06:07:43PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:07:45PM ANYTHING ELSE?
06:07:46PM >> THAT'S IT.
06:07:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH SPEAK ON ITEM
06:07:51PM NUMBER 4?
06:07:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE.
06:07:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: SECOND.
06:07:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:07:56PM READ ITEM NUMBER 4.
06:08:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: ITEM NUMBER 4, FILE NUMBER REZ-24-43.
06:08:06PM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING RECONSIDERATION.
06:08:08PM GENERAL VICINITY OF 3614 TEMPLE STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA,
06:08:14PM FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM
06:08:16PM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION RM-16 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
06:08:21PM TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY PROVIDE AN EFFECTIVE DATE
06:08:27PM CLENDENIN SECOND.
06:08:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
06:08:28PM BE OPPOSED?
06:08:30PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK BEING ABSENT AT VOTE.
06:08:33PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 5,
06:08:38PM 2024 AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS CITY HALL, 315
06:08:43PM E. KENNEDY, THIRD,FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
06:08:49PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM NUMBER 5.
06:08:51PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:08:54PM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5, REZ-24-46, FROM 5825 SOUTH 5th STREET
06:09:04PM FROM RS-06.
06:09:06PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE WITH THE PLANNING
06:09:09PM COMMISSION STAFF.
06:09:09PM WE ARE IN SOUTH TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT RIGHT NOW NORTH OF
06:09:14PM BETWEEN AND SOUTH IS IT 6th AND ALONG SOUTH 5th.
06:09:20PM INTERBAY HAS A VARIETY OF USES THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL.
06:09:24PM AND AT THE INTERSECTION OF MacDILL YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL IN
06:09:29PM THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
06:09:34PM AND LAND USE AS RESIDENTIAL-10.
06:09:38PM THE ORANGE COLOR.
06:09:39PM TO THE SOUTH IS RESIDENTIAL-20.
06:09:40PM I SAW SOME HOUSING ON THAT.
06:09:42PM AND COMMUNITY MIXED USE 35 ALONG SOUTH MacDILL, WHICH
06:09:48PM ALLOWED FOR COMMERCIAL USES.
06:09:49PM WE REVIEWED THIS AND FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH THE
06:09:52PM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:09:53PM THE RESIDENTIAL-10 LAND USE DESIGNATION ALLOWS FOR A VARIETY
06:09:59PM OF LOT WIDTH AND LOT SIZES AND THIS STREET HAS DEVELOPED
06:10:03PM ABOUT HALF OF THEIR ALLOWABLE DENSITY UNDER THE FUTURE LAND
06:10:07PM USE.
06:10:07PM AND AS ONE OF THE CITIES PLANS, GOALS, IS TO PROVIDE HOUSING
06:10:13PM OPTION FOR TAMPA'S GROWING POPULATION AND UNDERUTILIZED
06:10:17PM SITES.
06:10:17PM WE FOUND THIS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE POLICIES AS WELL AS
06:10:20PM COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT
06:10:23PM PATTERN PER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:10:25PM SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:10:27PM THANK YOU.
06:10:27PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:10:34PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:10:38PM WE WILL HAVE THE AERIAL MAP UP AND WE WILL GET STARTED.
06:10:43PM THE SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN RED ALONG SOUTH 5th STREET.
06:10:46PM YOU KIND OF HAVE A HODGEPODGE OF RS-50 AND RS-06 ZONING ON
06:10:53PM 5th STREET NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:10:56PM SMALL RS-60 AND TRANSITIONS TO RS-60 SOUTH.
06:11:09PM RS-50.
06:11:11PM AND ACROSS THE STREET IS RS-50 AND UTILIZED FOR MULTIFAMILY.
06:11:16PM AS YOU MENTIONED WE GO OVER TO MacDILL AND INTERBAY, YOU
06:11:21PM HAVE CG USES.
06:11:23PM WE WILL GO THROUGH PICTURES OF SITE PLAN.
06:11:25PM IS IN LOOKING WEST DIRECTLY AT THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:11:29PM OF LOOKING NORTH ALONG NORTH 5th STREET OF THE SUBJECT SITE
06:11:39PM HERE THIS LOOKING EAST, THE MULTIFAMILY ACROSS THE STREET.
06:11:53PM NORTH ON FIFTH STREET.
06:11:55PM SOME OF THOSE RS-50 LOTS.
06:11:58PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHWEST.
06:11:59PM THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
06:12:00PM IT AND HERE IS A BETTER VIEW OF THOSE RS-50 LOTS NORTH OF
06:12:07PM THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:12:07PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST.
06:12:09PM AND ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET, THIS IS LOOKING
06:12:12PM NORTHWEST OF MORE RS-50 LOTS.
06:12:15PM SO NOW WE WILL MOVE CONTINUE TO OUR CONFORMING MAP.
06:12:19PM ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT.
06:12:21PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
06:12:24PM IT IS RED.
06:12:25PM AND THE BLACK OUTLINE WITH THE HATCHING OVER IT.
06:12:28PM I JUST WANT TO WALK THROUGH WHERE THE CONFORMING ANALYSIS
06:12:32PM WAS BECAUSE VERY LITTLE OF THE ORIGINAL BLOCK EXISTS DUE TO
06:12:35PM REDEVELOPMENT OVER THE TIME.
06:12:36PM THE ANALYSIS FOR THE -- THE GRANULAR ANALYSIS ON SOUTH OF
06:12:41PM 5th STREET TO THE DEAD END AND A GRANULAR ANALYSIS ON 6th
06:12:47PM STREET TO LACY COURT.
06:12:49PM I WILL RUN THROUGH THAT AND A LITTLE LONG WENDED BUT I WANTS
06:12:52PM TO MAKE SURE IT IS AVAILABLE FOR YOU AND THE RECORD.
06:12:55PM OF LOT 24 AND LOT 25.
06:12:59PM THE SUBDIVISION WAS PLATTED IN OF 1911 AND PLOT FIVE IN
06:13:04PM 1914.
06:13:05PM THE SUBJECT BLOCK REPLATTED WITH 25 LOTS WITH FRONTAGE OF 28
06:13:10PM FEET TO 59 FEET IN LENGTH.
06:13:11PM AREA OF ANALYSIS 461 PARCELS.
06:13:15PM 164 PARCELS WITH THE WIDTH OF TO 60 FEET FOR GREATER.
06:13:23PM AND A WIDTHS OF 59.99 FEET FOR LESS.
06:13:27PM THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH FIFTH STREET FROM INTERBAY TO THE
06:13:36PM DEAD END CONSISTS OF 11 PARCELS OF SUBJECT SITE 50 TO 49.99
06:13:43PM FEET.
06:13:43PM OF THOSE PARCELS EIGHT OR 72% ARE 59.99 FEET OR LESS PER
06:13:49PM WIDTH AND THREE OF THE PARCELS ARE 27% AND 60 FEET AND
06:13:53PM GREATER IN WIDTH.
06:13:54PM THE EAST SIDE OF 5th STREET FROM INTERBAY TO THE DEAD END
06:13:58PM CONTAIN SIX PARCELS TO THE DEAD END LOT WITT OF 55 TO 49.99
06:14:04PM FEET.
06:14:04PM OF THAT 100% OF THE PARCELS ARE LESS THAN 50 FEET IN WIDTH.
06:14:09PM ONE BLOCK TO THE SUBJECT SITE OF SOUTH 6th STREET, WE ARE
06:14:12PM LOOKING AT THE EAST SIDE FROM INTERBAY BOULEVARD TO LACY
06:14:15PM LEAF COURT.
06:14:16PM IT CONTAINS 14 PARCELS AND WIDTH FROM 50 TO 99 FEET.
06:14:20PM OF THOSE PARCELS TEN OR 71% ARE 59.99 FEET LESS IN WIDTH AND
06:14:27PM 29% ARE 60 FOOT FOR GREATER.
06:14:30PM STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THAT 64% OF THE PARCELS WITH 59.99 FEET
06:14:35PM OR LESS.
06:14:35PM AND DUE TO THAT WITHIN THE STUDY AREA, STAFF FINDS IT
06:14:42PM CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE AREA.
06:14:45PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:14:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
06:14:48PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
06:14:49PM APPLICANT?
06:14:52PM >> MR. SHELBY, I HAVE EIGHT COPIES.
06:14:55PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HELLO, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:15:01PM >> JOHN LUM, INTERBAY CIRCLE, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
06:15:07PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, PLEASURE TO SEE YOU HERE TONIGHT.
06:15:11PM I WILL READ IT TO YOU.
06:15:12PM A LOT OF CONCERN THAT THE FOLKS IN THE INDUSTRY HAVE RIGHT
06:15:15PM NOW.
06:15:15PM AND I WANT TO TALK TO A COUPLE OF LAWYERS AND THEY ASKED ME
06:15:18PM -- THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO CLARIFY SOME OF THE AMBIGUITIES
06:15:23PM WITH THIS.
06:15:23PM MR. CHAIRMAN, AS HOUSEKEEPING MATTER.
06:15:26PM WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THE SECTOR COURT DECISION BY JUDGE MOE
06:15:29PM THAT POTENTIALLY CALLS IN QUESTION THE JURISDICTION OF THIS
06:15:32PM BODY TO HEAR AND DECIDE QUASI-JUDICIAL DECISIONS.
06:15:36PM I HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY SEVERAL ATTORNEYS KNOWLEDGEABLE THAT
06:15:41PM WE SHOULD REQUEST THIS AND PUT IT ON RECORD.
06:15:43PM MR. SHELBY, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THIS BODY HAS THE POWER TO
06:15:48PM HOLD THIS HEARING AND MAKE DECISIONS ON THIS QUASI JUDICIAL
06:15:52PM HEARING TONIGHT?
06:15:52PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MR. CHAIRMAN, MARTIN SHELBY, COUNCIL
06:15:55PM ATTORNEY.
06:15:55PM I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY CATE WELLS TO BE
06:16:00PM ABLE TO RESPOND ON THE CITY'S BEHALF.
06:16:03PM >>CATE WELLS: CATE WELLS, DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY.
06:16:06PM I BELIEVE ANDREA ZELMAN, THE CITY ATTORNEY ADDRESSED CITY
06:16:09PM COUNCIL ON THIS VERY SPECIFIC ISSUE LAST THURSDAY AND
06:16:13PM RECOMMENDED THAT CITY COUNCIL CONTINUE HOLDING HEARINGS AS
06:16:16PM IT HAS BEEN.
06:16:17PM THANK YOU.
06:16:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:16:21PM YES, SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
06:16:22PM >> STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
06:16:25PM THE STAFF HAS GONE THROUGH THE REVIEW, AND WE FOUND IT TO BE
06:16:28PM CONSISTENT ON THE CITY STAFF AS WELL AS THE PLANNING
06:16:30PM COMMISSION.
06:16:30PM THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL-10 DESIGNATION LAND USE AREA.
06:16:35PM IT IS A MIX OF DIFFERENT USES AND DIFFERENT VARIETY OF SIZES
06:16:39PM OF PROPERTIES IN THE STAFF CORRECTLY POINTED OUT THAT WE
06:16:44PM HAVE MULTIFAMILY AS WELL AS SPOTS OF RS-60 IN THE AREA
06:16:50PM AND RS-50.
06:16:51PM SO IT GOES THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
06:16:53PM THE BLOCK FACE, AS THE STAFF POINTED OUT, THE DOMINANT
06:16:58PM PATTERN IS RS-50 AND THE REDEVELOPMENT NATIONAL ARE
06:17:02PM OCCURRING ARE BUILT ON 50-FOOT LOTS.
06:17:04PM THE AREA IS UNDERGOING A LOT OF CHANGES.
06:17:09PM BUT THEY WERE ORIGINALLY PLATTED AT 50 FEET.
06:17:12PM THE DEPTH OF THESE LOTS ARE FAIRLY DEEP.
06:17:15PM THEY ARE 150 FEET DEEP AND THE REQUIREMENT UNDER RS-50.
06:17:23PM THEY ARE ACTUALLY 7500-SQUARE-FOOT EACH.
06:17:31PM BOTH ARE IN TOTAL.
06:17:37PM THE INTERBAY THE SOUTH MacDILL AREA IS AN ACTIVE AREA THAT
06:17:45PM WE ARE CONSISTENT WITH.
06:17:47PM WE DO NOT RECEIVE ANY CALLS OR ANYTHING REGARDING THIS
06:17:50PM PETITION.
06:17:51PM PROPOSED REZONING WILL ALLOW THE CONSIDERATION OF TWO
06:17:54PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES.
06:17:54PM AND THE LOTS ARE APPROXIMATELY 50 FEET MATCHING THE EXISTING
06:17:59PM LOT THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
06:18:01PM WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR INTRODUCING A NEW DEVELOPMENT AREA.
06:18:06PM AND THE STAFF HAD POINTED THAT OUT.
06:18:09PM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ALL THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS THAT THE
06:18:14PM STAFF CITED AS BEING APPROPRIATE AND CONSISTENT AND RECEIVED
06:18:16PM AND FILED AND MADE PART OF THE RECORD.
06:18:22PM THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM AND IF YOU RECEIVE AND FILE THE
06:18:25PM REPORT, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
06:18:27PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
06:18:28PM I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
06:18:30PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON
06:18:33PM ITEM NUMBER 5?
06:18:35PM I SEE NO ONE, AND A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN TO CLOSE AND
06:18:38PM SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:18:40PM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:18:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENT TODAY ARE FIRST
06:18:47PM READING CONSIDERATION.
06:18:48PM ORDINANCE IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 5825 SOUTH 5th STREET
06:18:52PM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
06:18:55PM IN SECTION ONE FROM ZONING CLASSIFICATION RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
06:19:00PM SINGLE-FAMILY TO RS-50 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
06:19:03PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
06:19:04PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: SECOND.
06:19:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:19:06PM ANY OPPOSED?
06:19:09PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:19:11PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION SEPTEMBER 5, 2024, AT -- SORRY
06:19:15PM AT 10 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST
06:19:24PM KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 3360.
06:19:31PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, LAND DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:19:35PM REZ-24-46 FROM RS-60 TO RR-50.
06:19:43PM TURN IT OVER TO JENNIFER.
06:19:45PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE, PLANNING COMMISSION
06:19:47PM STAFF.
06:19:48PM THIS IS IN THE CENTRAL TAMPA PLANNING DISTRICT.
06:19:50PM THIS IS REALLY ZOOMED IN, BUT WE ARE WEST OF N. BOULEVARD.
06:19:55PM RIGHT HERE.
06:19:56PM THIS IS WEST ROSS AVENUE.
06:20:00PM -- NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE RIGHT HERE.
06:20:07PM AND WE HAVE THE RIVER AND SOME VACANT LOTS AND THIS
06:20:10PM WONDERFUL BEAUTIFUL NEW ROUNDABOUT TO THE SOUTH.
06:20:13PM THE FUTURE LAND USE IS RESIDENTIAL-10.
06:20:18PM THIS -- THESE TWO LOTS TO THE NORTH DARKER BROWN IS
06:20:21PM RESIDENTIAL-20.
06:20:21PM IF THAT LOOKS FAMILIAR TO YOU, IT IS BECAUSE IT WAS A PLAN
06:20:26PM AMENDMENT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
06:20:28PM THIS IS RESIDENTIAL-35 EAST OF N. BOULEVARD WHICH IS ALSO AN
06:20:31PM URBAN VILLAGE, BUT THE SITE IS NOT WITHIN THE URBAN VILLAGE
06:20:35PM AND A LITTLE DENSER NORTH OF EAST BOULEVARD.
06:20:38PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
06:20:42PM AND RELATIONAL MIX 100 TO THE SOUTH WHICH IS THE AMATEUR
06:20:49PM WORKS DEVELOPMENT.
06:20:50PM WE FOUND IN CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND
06:20:53PM ENCOURAGE INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN AN AREA THAT IS
06:20:56PM UNDERUTILIZE.
06:20:57PM WE ARE LOOKING AT EXISTING DENSITY OF AND PLANNED FOR 10.
06:21:03PM TO ALLOWING THIS ZONING WILL ALLOW US TO UTILIZE THAT LAND
06:21:07PM MORE EFFECTIVELY AND PROVIDE MORE HOUSING FOR TAMPA GROWING
06:21:11PM POPULATION AND THE UNDERUTILIZATION OF THOSE SITES.
06:21:13PM I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
06:21:15PM THANK YOU.
06:21:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
06:21:18PM YES, SIR.
06:21:19PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAMUEL THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:21:23PM THE AERIAL MAPS.
06:21:27PM YOU SEE THE SUBJECT SITE HERE IN RED.
06:21:31PM THE SURROUNDING AREA IS LARGELY RS-60.
06:21:35PM TO THE SOUTH IT SAYS RO-1.
06:21:38PM A MISTAKE ON OUR MAPS THAT HAVE BEEN CORRECT.
06:21:41PM PART OF THE PD-A.
06:21:45PM HEIGHTS BOULEVARD.
06:21:45PM OUR MAPS WERE NOT UPDATED BEFORE BUT THEY ARE UPDATED NOW.
06:21:49PM NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE, A PD FOR TWO SINGLE-FAMILY
06:21:53PM DETACHED HOMES.
06:21:54PM AS JEN MENTIONED A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT NOT TOO LONG AGO AND
06:21:58PM A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR SEMI DETACHED USES AND THE REST OF
06:22:01PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS RS-60 ABOUT WITH A FEW POCKETS OF RS-50
06:22:07PM AND THIS SIDE OF N. BOULEVARD YOU HAVE MULTIFAMILY USES.
06:22:10PM WE WILL GO INTO PICTURES OF THE SITE NOW.
06:22:12PM SO THIS IS LOOKING -- KINDS OF A PICTURES BECAUSE THE SITE
06:22:19PM IS RATHER LARGE.
06:22:20PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON GLENWOOD DRIVE.
06:22:22PM THIS IS ALL THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE.
06:22:25PM THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ON GLENWOOD TOWARD ROSS.
06:22:29PM THIS IS MOVING FARTHER DOWN GLENWOOD.
06:22:31PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:22:33PM MOVED A LITTLE FARTHER DOWN, AND NOW YOU CAN SEE THE
06:22:37PM SINGLE-FAMILY HOME THAT IS CURRENTLY ON THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:22:40PM LOOKING FROM GLENWOOD STILL.
06:22:43PM AND THIS GIVES YOU THE FULL VIEW.
06:22:45PM ROSS IS OVER HERE AND GLENWOOD, THE SUBJECT SITE GOES FROM
06:22:48PM HERE ALL THE WAY TO WHERE THAT WHITE FENCE IS.
06:22:51PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST ON GLENWOOD.
06:22:54PM YOU CAN SEE SOME NEW DEVELOPMENT JUST NORTH OF THE SUBJECT
06:22:58PM SITE.
06:22:58PM THIS IS INTERIOR TO THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING THAT THE HOUSE
06:23:02PM YOU JUST SAW ON THE FOREGROUND BEFORE.
06:23:04PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST ACROSS GLENWOOD.
06:23:08PM THIS IS THE PARK BUTTERFLY GARDEN AND NEW EXTENSION OF THE
06:23:16PM RIVERWALK AND ZOOMED IN PICTURE AND YOU CAN SEE THE
06:23:19PM DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ON THE SORE SIDE OF GLENWOOD.
06:23:21PM NEW CONSTRUCTION.
06:23:24PM GLENWOOD AND NEW CONSTRUCTION BEING BELT CURRENTLY THERE AND
06:23:28PM THIS IS LOOKING BACK TO THE SUBJECT SITE NORTH OF GLENWOOD.
06:23:31PM WE MOVED OVER TO ROSS AVENUE NOW.
06:23:33PM THIS IS LOOKING EAST ON ROSS AVENUE TOWARD THE HEIGHTS
06:23:35PM REDEVELOPMENT.
06:23:36PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:23:37PM AND THEN SOME NEW CONSTRUCTION NEXT TO IT.
06:23:41PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH TOWARD GLENWOOD DRIVE OVER HERE.
06:23:44PM THIS IS THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:23:45PM THIS IS ROSS AVENUE.
06:23:46PM AND NOW, WE ARE LOOKING WEST ON ROSS AVENUE WITH THE
06:23:50PM INTERSECTION OF GLENWOOD AND ROSS AND THIS IS THE SUBJECT
06:23:53PM SITE.
06:23:53PM SO NOW WE WILL GO ON TO THE CONFORMING MAP.
06:23:56PM SO YOU HAVE THE SUBJECT SITE RIGHT HERE FOR THE PURPOSE OF
06:24:01PM THE GRANULAR ANALYSIS.
06:24:03PM WE LOOKED AT GLENWOOD DRIVE ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE
06:24:07PM BETWEEN PARK AND LOSS.
06:24:08PM AND THIS.
06:24:15PM AND TOWARD ROSS AVENUE AND THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN A LITTLE
06:24:19PM BIT DIFFERENT AND WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THE ANALYSIS
06:24:24PM AND ON THE ORIGINAL BLOCK, WE LOOKED BETWEEN GLENWOOD AND N.
06:24:30PM BOULEVARD IN THE TWO PARCELS THAT ARE ORIENTED TOWARD NORTH
06:24:33PM AVENUE.
06:24:33PM I WILL GO THROUGH THE ANALYSIS NOW.
06:24:36PM SO THE SUBJECT SITE IS PART OF THE RIDGEWOOD PARK
06:24:40PM SUBDIVISION, BLOCK D, LOTS 11 AND 12.
06:24:44PM THE SUBDIVISION IS PLAT WITH 13 BLOCKS.
06:24:48PM THE SUBJECT BLOCK THREE IS WILDFIRE FRONTAGES RANGES FROM 55
06:24:53PM FEET TO 74 FEET.
06:24:54PM THE AREA ANALYSIS INCLUDED 180 PARCELS, 69 OF THOSE PARCEL
06:25:00PM TO ARE 39% ARE DEVELOPED WITH THE WIDTH OF 60 FOOT AND 111
06:25:06PM PARCELS 61% WIDTH OF 59.99 OR LESS.
06:25:10PM BLOCKS EAST AND WEST OF NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE BETWEEN WEST
06:25:14PM PARK AVENUE ARE COMPRISED OF BLOCKS D AND E.
06:25:20PM ON THE EAST SIDE OF GLENWOOD BLOCK D INCLUDE THREE PARCELS
06:25:24PM EXCLUDING THE SUBJECT SITE ALL FRONTING -- FOUR PARCELS,
06:25:28PM THREE OF THEM EXCLUDING THE SUBJECT SITE FRONTING NORTH
06:25:32PM GLENWOOD DRIVE.
06:25:32PM OF THESE THREE PARCELS 1,000% OF THE LOT WIDTH BETWEEN 55
06:25:39PM AND 59.99 FEET.
06:25:41PM AND CONTAINS FIVE PARCELS AT NORTH GLENWOOD AND 100% OF
06:25:46PM THOSE LOT WIDTH ARE BETWEEN 55 AND 59.99 FEET OPINION NORTH
06:25:52PM GLENWOOD AND N. BOULEVARD, THERE ARE THREE PARCELS ORIENTED
06:25:55PM TOWARD WEST ROSS.
06:25:56PM THREE OR 100% OF THOSE PARCELS WITH LOT WIDTH LESS THAN
06:26:03PM 54.99.
06:26:03PM 52% HAVE LOT WIDTH BETWEEN 50 AND 54.99 AND BETWEEN 45 AND
06:26:12PM 49.99 FEET.
06:26:14PM MOVING TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SUBJECT BLOCK, ON NORTH
06:26:17PM GLENWOOD AND N. BOULEVARD, CONTAIN TWO PARCELS FRONTING WEST
06:26:21PM PARK AVENUE.
06:26:21PM OF TWO THOSE PARCELS OR 100% LOT WIDTH BETWEEN 70 AND 74.
06:26:27PM AND DEVELOPED WITH THE LOT WIDTH OF 59.99 FEET OR LESS AND
06:26:33PM HAVE DETERMINED THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING IS CONSISTENT
06:26:36PM WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN THE OVERALL STUDY
06:26:39PM AREA.
06:26:39PM I AM AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
06:26:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
06:26:46PM NO.
06:26:46PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:26:47PM APPLICANT.
06:26:47PM >> GOOD EVENING, SHANE O'NEIL.
06:26:54PM 804 WEST PARK AVENUE.
06:26:55PM I WILL MAKE MINE SHORT AND SWEET.
06:27:00PM SUBJECT LOTS WITH THE RED DOT HERE.
06:27:04PM WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THIS EXACT SAME REZONING HERE IN THIS
06:27:09PM CORNER OF AMELIA AND GLENWOOD ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
06:27:11PM 2501, 2503 NORTH GLENWOOD, RS-50 AND RS-60.
06:27:19PM MY PERSONAL HOME AND A HOUSE NEXT DOOR.
06:27:21PM WE DID A PD.
06:27:23PM WE ASKED TO DO THE RS-60 TO RS-50.
06:27:28PM ALONG GLENWOOD, MOST HOMES EVEN THOUGH THE LOTS ARE RS-60,
06:27:33PM THEY ARE LESS THAN 60 FEET WIDE.
06:27:35PM FOR THAT REASON THIS IS RIGHT ON LINE WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING
06:27:39PM HERE.
06:27:39PM MOBLEY HOMES IS IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE SAME REZONING
06:27:42PM FROM RS-60 TO RS-50 ON THE DOUBLE LOT HERE ON THE CORNER.
06:27:48PM THAT IS MY PRESENTATION.
06:27:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA?
06:27:55PM ANYBODY?
06:27:56PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 6.
06:28:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: MOVE TO CLOSE.
06:28:02PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO ITEM 7.
06:28:05PM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:28:07PM A SECOND?
06:28:09PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:28:10PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:28:11PM ANY OPPOSE?
06:28:12PM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON, ITEM NUMBER 6.
06:28:14PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FILE NUMBER REZ-24-48.
06:28:18PM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION REZONING PROPERTY
06:28:22PM IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 2201 NORTH GLENWOOD DRIVE IN THE
06:28:27PM CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN
06:28:30PM SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT RS-60 RESIDENTIAL
06:28:34PM SINGLE-FAMILY, TO RS-50, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY.
06:28:38PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
06:28:41PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:28:44PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 5,
06:28:47PM 2024 AT 10:00 A.M. AT OLD CITY HALL 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD
06:28:54PM FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA 33602.
06:28:56PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:28:59PM ALL RIGHT, LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT.
06:29:02PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS -- HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE THE LAST
06:29:07PM ITEM OF THE NIGHT.
06:29:09PM REZ-24-51 TO REZONE 701, 705 AND 80 1 EAST WILMA STREET FROM
06:29:19PM RESIDENTIAL 6 0 TO RM-18 RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY.
06:29:24PM >>JENNIFER MALONE: JENNIFER MALONE FROM PLANNING COMMISSION
06:29:26PM STAFF.
06:29:26PM WE ARE IN THE UNIVERSITY PLANNING DISTRICT.
06:29:29PM WEST OF NEBRASKA AVENUE.
06:29:34PM EAST OF NORTH BUSCH STREET.
06:29:36PM WE ARE KIND OF RIGHT AT THIS INTERCHANGE.
06:29:38PM THIS IS SHOWING VACANT ON MY AERIAL BUT IT HAS BEEN
06:29:43PM DEVELOPED.
06:29:43PM SAM WILL SHOW PICTURES I AM SURE NEXT.
06:29:45PM THE AERIAL IS A TOUCH OUTDATED.
06:29:49PM THIS IS MULTIFAMILY.
06:29:50PM WE, OF COURSE, HAVE COMMERCIAL USE NORTH OF NEBRASKA AND
06:29:54PM SOME RESIDENTIAL UNITS NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:29:58PM THIS LOOK LIKES A CAR LOT HERE AT THE CORNER.
06:30:00PM TWO FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
06:30:03PM WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL-20, WHICH IS THE BROWN COLOR AND
06:30:06PM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 WHICH IS RED.
06:30:08PM PROBABLY WHY IT HAS TWO ZONING DISTRICTS RIGHT NOW.
06:30:13PM THE APPLICATION TO BRING IN ONE ZONING DISTRICT AND THE
06:30:16PM REQUEST OF THE ZONING DISTRICT CONSISTENT WITH BOTH THE
06:30:20PM FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS.
06:30:22PM COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL 35 DOES ALLOW FOR PRETTY INTENSIVE
06:30:26PM COMMERCIAL USES, BUT WE THINK OF PUTTING THE RESIDENTIAL
06:30:29PM MULTIFAMILY 18 HERE WOULD BE REALLY SENSITIVE AND COMPATIBLE
06:30:35PM FOR INTERSTATE 20 TO THE NORTH.
06:30:38PM THAT WILL PROVIDE THE NICE TRANSITION AS WELL AS TO THE
06:30:41PM MULTIFAMILY TO THE EAST.
06:30:42PM COMPARABLE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
06:30:45PM THE PLAN DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT HERE WE
06:30:53PM WILL STATE FOR THE RECORD THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION
06:30:59PM HAS ENHANCED ORIENTED DESIGN.
06:31:03PM SEEKS A CERTAIN DESIGN AND WE ASK THAT THE APPLICANT MEET
06:31:06PM WHAT WE UNDERSTAND IS EUCLIDIAN, BUT AT PERMITTING, JUST
06:31:10PM MEET WHAT THEY CAN.
06:31:11PM WITH THAT, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
06:31:14PM THANK YOU.
06:31:14PM MANISCALCO YES, SIR.
06:31:16PM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAMUEL THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
06:31:21PM I WON'T SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THE AERIAL MAP BECAUSE JEN
06:31:27PM COVERED IS IT AS WELL.
06:31:28PM THE MAP IS A LITTLE OUTDATED.
06:31:30PM SO IS OURS.
06:31:35PM THERE WE GO.
06:31:36PM THE UPDATED AREA WHAT IS BEEN DEVELOPED RECENTLY AND THEN GO
06:31:47PM BACK TO THE ZONING MAP.
06:31:52PM >> YOU CAN SEE THESE TWO PARCELS ARE ZONED CN CURRENTLY AND
06:31:56PM A SMALL NONCONFORMING LOT RS-60.
06:32:01PM TO THE NORTH RS-60 AND A SMALL POCKET OF RS-50, THE CI
06:32:07PM AND CG IN THIS AREA HAVE THE MULTIFAMILY ON IT.
06:32:11PM AND YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL USE ALONG NEBRASKA THAT AS JEN SAID.
06:32:17PM ALONG BUSH, IG ZONING AND BACK UP TO 275.
06:32:22PM I WILL GO IN AND SHOW SOME PICTURES NOW.
06:32:27PM SO THIS IS LOOK CAN SOUTHEAST AT THE SUBJECT SITE FROM
06:32:30PM WILMA.
06:32:31PM THIS IS A VIEW OF THAT MULTIFAMILY THAT WAS DEVELOPED NEXT
06:32:34PM TO THE SUBJECT SITE LOOKING SOUTHWEST ON WILMA LOOKING
06:32:40PM TOWARD INTERSTATE 275 AND YOU CAN SEE HOW LONG THE SUBJECT
06:32:43PM SITE IS.
06:32:46PM I WILL ZOOM OUT SOME.
06:32:47PM THERE WE GO.
06:32:49PM SO THIS IS LOOKING DIRECTLY AT THE SUBJECT SITE.
06:32:52PM 275 IN THE FOREGROUND THERE.
06:32:55PM THIS IS LOOKING WEST TOWARD THE DEAD END OF WILMA.
06:32:59PM THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES ON THE OTHER SIDE.
06:33:03PM HERE IS A BETTER LOOK AT THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED USES.
06:33:07PM NOW WE ARE LOOKING BACK TOWARD NEBRASKA AVENUE AT THE
06:33:11PM SUBJECT SITE HERE.
06:33:12PM MOVED A LITTLE FARTHER EAST.
06:33:16PM YOU CAN SEE THE SUBJECT SITE HERE.
06:33:17PM A LITTLE BETTER OF THE VIEW ON MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT.
06:33:20PM THIS IS LOOKING NORTH ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SUBJECT
06:33:23PM SITE.
06:33:23PM SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOME.
06:33:26PM GIVES YOU A VIEW OF THE SUBJECT SITE ALMOST IN ITS ENTIRE
06:33:32PM LENGTH ON THE SITE OF WILMA AND PEEK OVER THE FENCE TO GIVE
06:33:41PM YOU A BETTER VIEW OF THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ABUTTING.
06:33:45PM ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS
06:33:47PM IN THE LAST PICTURE, THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED HOMES
06:33:57PM DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND STAFF FOUND IT CONSISTENT WITH A
06:34:00PM MAXIMUM OF 14 DWELLING UNITS CONSIDERED ON THE SITE UNDER
06:34:02PM THE RESIDENTIAL 18 ZONING DISTRICT.
06:34:05PM THE DISTRICT WILL PROVIDE A TRANSITION FROM THE MULTIFAMILY
06:34:10PM USES OF THE EAST AND SOUTH TO THE SINGLE-FAMILY DETACHED
06:34:13PM OPPORTUNITIES THE NORTH.
06:34:14PM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I AM AVAILABLE FOR ANY
06:34:16PM QUESTIONS.
06:34:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:34:19PM ANY QUESTIONS?
06:34:20PM NO?
06:34:21PM APPLICANT.
06:34:21PM >> GOOD EVENING.
06:34:24PM I AM JOHN LAROCCA, SOUTH MacDILL AVENUE, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND I
06:34:30PM AM THE AGENT FOR THE APPLICANT.
06:34:33PM OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
06:34:34PM THE APPLICANT IS HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS POISED OF
06:34:37PM HIM.
06:34:37PM AS YOU KNOW A VERY DETAILED REPORT HAS BEEN PREPARED BY THE
06:34:41PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DEPARTMENT WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS
06:34:45PM FINDING IT CONSISTENT.
06:34:47PM PLANNING COMMISSION FOUND THE APPLICATION CONSISTENT WITH --
06:34:51PM CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF THE ADOPTED POLICIES, PLANT POLICIES.
06:34:55PM I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN
06:34:59PM INVOLVED AND BACK TO THE AERIAL.
06:35:03PM THIS PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY BEHIND WHAT SAN OLD RAMADA INN AT
06:35:09PM THE INTERSECTION OF I-275 AND BUSCH BEAUTIFUL OR THE EASTERN
06:35:15PM EDGE OF THE BLOCK IS NEBRASKA.
06:35:17PM ONE OF THE PRIMARY CORRIDORS WHERE YOU WILL SEE
06:35:20PM OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRANSIT EXPANSION AS TIME MOVES ON.
06:35:26PM AND TRANSIT CORRIDORS.
06:35:28PM AS A PLANNER AND LONG-TIME PRACTICING PLANNER, I WILL
06:35:35PM INDICATE A CLASSIC PLAN THAT IS BEING SOUGHT HERE.
06:35:39PM YOU WILL SEE IN ONE OF THE PHOTOS THAT MR. THOMAS PRESENTED
06:35:42PM THAT THERE IS CELLULAR COMMUNICATION THAT IS SUBJECT OF THE
06:35:48PM REZONING.
06:35:48PM THAT TOWER IS ON A MONTH TO MONTH LEASE LAND BE REMOVED WHEN
06:35:51PM THIS PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED.
06:35:52PM THE APPLICANT AND I MET BEFORE WE MADE THE APPLICATION FOR
06:35:59PM THE REZONING.
06:36:00PM THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FOR THE AREA IS -- IS A
06:36:04PM BROAD CONNECTION OF RESIDENTIAL-20.
06:36:06PM FOR WILMA NORTH AROUND WEST OF NEBRASKA WITH COMMUNITY 35
06:36:14PM LAND USE.
06:36:14PM AND THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS VERY UNIQUE IN THAT IT IS
06:36:17PM THE ONLY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL PARCEL AND RS-60 ON THE
06:36:24PM SOUTH SIDE OF WILMA THAT BACKS UP TO THE INTERSTATE RAMP
06:36:26PM THAT BACKS UP TO THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
06:36:28PM AGAIN, IT IS A CLASSIC TRANSITIONAL ZONE IN THE
06:36:31PM RESIDENTIAL-20 LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT IS COMPATIBLE AND
06:36:36PM CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE POLICIES.
06:36:37PM I WANT TO QUALIFY ONE THING.
06:36:39PM THE PROPERTY IS THE WESTERN EDGE OF IT IS A SMALL TRIANGLE.
06:36:47PM TO GET DEVELOPER LOTS THAT MEET THE RM-18 SHOULD THE ZONING
06:36:53PM BE GRANTED.
06:36:53PM THE STANDARDS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKAGE IN THE
06:36:55PM REPORT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION DEPARTMENT.
06:36:58PM THE LAND USE PLAN WILL ALLOW CONSIDERATION OF UP TO 18 OR 20
06:37:03PM UNITS TO THE ACRE WHICH WILL CONVERT BASED ON THE LAND AREA
06:37:07PM INVOLVED ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE TO EITHER 14 OR 16
06:37:10PM UNITS CONCERNING ON THE ZONES YOU ARE APPLYING FOR THE
06:37:15PM REALITY OF IT.
06:37:16PM AND WE CAN'T TALK OF DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLANS, BUT SIMPLY
06:37:21PM UTILIZING THE RM-18 STANDARD EUCLIDIAN GUIDELINES BASED ON
06:37:31PM THE CONFIGURATION OF THE LAND AND MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE
06:37:35PM PRIMARY USE ALLOWED WILL BE APPROXIMATELY EIGHT UNITS THAT
06:37:43PM WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE WE DID THE APPLICATION AND MAKING A
06:37:50PM PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS NOT RECTANGULAR AND WITH A TOTAL
06:37:54PM FRONTAGE TO ACCOMMODATE MORE UNITS.
06:37:55PM I DO KNOW -- I KNOW THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE AND I WILL
06:37:58PM INTRODUCE MYSELF TO THEM DIRECT AND HONEST CONVERSATION OF
06:38:07PM INDIVIDUALS THAT TAUGHT VIRTUALLY AND PARTICIPATE VIRTUALLY.
06:38:09PM THERE IS A LETTER THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED REGARDING SOME
06:38:13PM OBJECTIONS AND I BELIEVE -- I DON'T WANT TO INTERPRET THEIR
06:38:16PM WORDS BUT I THINK THE OPTIONS ARE DUE TO SOME OTHER PROBLEMS
06:38:19PM THAT ARE GOING ON IN TERMS OF CODE ENFORCEMENT AND ISSUES IN
06:38:23PM THE NEIGHBORHOOD I CAN TELL YOU FROM THE APPLICANT
06:38:28PM PERSPECTIVE, IF THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RM-18.
06:38:31PM WILL COMPLY WITH ALL RM-18 GUIDELINES REGARDING PARKING,
06:38:37PM SETBACKS, DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO THE CODE.
06:38:40PM IF ANYTHING IS PROPOSED ONCE THE APPLICANT GETS INTO THE
06:38:43PM DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS, IT SHOW IT IS INTO A WISH DONE
06:38:46PM OF THOSE CATEGORIES OF USE THAT REQUIRES SPECIAL USE AND
06:38:49PM APPROVAL TO COME BACK FOR THOSE KIND OF CONDITIONS.
06:38:51PM ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS RAISED AND DISCUSSED REQUEST WITH
06:39:00PM THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE EAST AND SOUTH WHERE THERE IS ACCESS
06:39:03PM TO THIS PROPERTY.
06:39:04PM THAT IS NOT ALLOWED IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND THE
06:39:12PM APPLICANT HAS NO INTENTIONS OF DOING THAT.
06:39:14PM WITH THAT SAID, I WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
06:39:17PM AND I HAVE OTHER GRAPHICS IF WE NEED TO SHOW THEM TO SHOW
06:39:20PM EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT FROM MY
06:39:22PM PERSPECTIVE, MY EXPERIENCE AND WITH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT AND
06:39:31PM DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION EXCEPTION OF ALL THE DEPARTMENTS.
06:39:34PM AND REVIEWING THE PROJECT.
06:39:37PM EVERYTHING IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS KIND OF ZONING.
06:39:39PM THANK YOU.
06:39:39PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY QUESTIONS?
06:39:41PM NO?
06:39:42PM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK?
06:39:44PM IF NOT, TWO REGISTERED SPEAKS ONLINE.
06:39:47PM I DON'T SEE ANYBODY IN THE PUB HERE TO SPEAK.
06:39:51PM JOEL SNOW AND JOAN CAUSMAN.
06:39:53PM PLEASE TURN ON YOUR CAMERAS AND UNMUTE YOURSELVES.
06:39:56PM RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SWEAR YOU IN.
06:39:58PM [SWEARING IN]
06:40:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YOU ARE MUTED OR SOMEBODY IS MUTED.
06:40:13PM >> CAN YOU HEAR US?
06:40:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH AND
06:40:20PM EVERYTHING ELSE SHE SAID.
06:40:21PM >> YES.
06:40:22PM >> YES.
06:40:23PM >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:40:24PM START WITH MR. JOEL SNOW AND JOAN CAUSMAN.
06:40:29PM >> JOEL SNOW.
06:40:30PM MANISCALCO YES, SIR, GO AHEAD.
06:40:33PM >> THANK YOU FOR THE TIME.
06:40:39PM PLEASANT CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT -- THE OWNER AND
06:40:42PM DEVELOPER.
06:40:43PM MR. LAROCCO AND I THINK THE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
06:40:51PM PRIMARILY IN WHICH WE SUCCESSFULLY GOT FROM THE -- THAT
06:40:57PM FIVE-STORY LOW-INCOME HOUSING.
06:40:59PM NO ACCESS TO WILMA STREET.
06:41:03PM AS LONG AS -- THAT IS OUR NUMBER ONE THING.
06:41:05PM THAT IS ALL.
06:41:06PM AND -- GENERALLY SINCE THIS -- AND -- BY THE WAY, AND THE
06:41:15PM BUSINESSES ON THE EAST SIDE IS -- YOU KNOW, IT WAS FOUND TO
06:41:22PM BE A PROBLEM.
06:41:22PM AND BUSINESSES ARE GREAT AND -- WE ENGAGE IN THE MOBILITY
06:41:39PM DEPARTMENT AND WITH THE FOLKS AND THEY HAVE DONE AN AWESOME
06:41:42PM JOB.
06:41:42PM CITY HAS DONE AN AWESOME JOB.
06:41:45PM WE STILL HAVE CHALLENGES.
06:41:46PM I KNOW THIS MAY NOT BE NECESSARILY RELATED TO THE ZONING BUT
06:41:50PM IT IS.
06:41:50PM BECAUSE IF WE ADD EVEN MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE AND WHAT IS
06:41:53PM HAPPENING WITH STREET PARKING.
06:41:54PM IF PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY PARKING ON THE SIDEWALK.
06:41:56PM THOSE ARE THE THINGS.
06:42:09PM PARKING ON THE SIDEWALK AND BLOCKED ON A REGULAR BASE.
06:42:13PM SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE REAL BOSS.
06:42:16PM >> OUR CONCERN IS JUST THE TRAFFIC FLOW BETWEEN WILMA
06:42:24PM AND TALIFERRO.
06:42:37PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: STATE YOUR NAME.
06:42:38PM >> JOAN CAUSMAN.
06:42:40PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT IT?
06:42:43PM >> YES.
06:42:43PM >> I DON'T WANT TO TAKE TOO MUCH TIME.
06:42:46PM HELLO MR. SNOW AND MISS CAUSMAN.
06:42:48PM WE TALKED A LOT ON THE PHONE.
06:42:50PM GOT TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
06:42:52PM WE HAVE NOT MET EACH OTHER FACE TO FACE.
06:42:53PM ALL I WANT TO SAY IN REBUTTAL AND NOT THE REBUTTAL THE
06:42:57PM CONCERNS THAT MR. SNOW AND MISS CAUSMAN HAS RAISED IS
06:43:00PM HONESTLY CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
06:43:04PM WHAT YOU IS IT NOT SEE IN THE PHOTOGRAPHY TONIGHT WAS THE
06:43:07PM COMMERCIAL AT THE END OF THE BLOCK WHERE IF THERE IS PARKING
06:43:10PM ALL OVER THE STREET AND ON THE SIDEWALK IN THE AREA.
06:43:13PM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AND CUT-THRU TRAFFIC.
06:43:15PM CONCERNED ABOUT SPEEDING.
06:43:17PM ALL I CAN COMMIT TO IS THIS APPLICANT IS NOT INTENDING TO
06:43:22PM CONNECT TO ANYTHING TO THE SOUTH AND EAST TO ALLOW
06:43:24PM ADDITIONAL ACCESS.
06:43:25PM THESE WILL BE TRADITIONAL ATTACHED OR SEMI DETACHED UNITS
06:43:30PM THAT MEET THE RM-18 CODE AND THE APPLICANT DEVELOPER WILL
06:43:35PM COMPLY WITH THOSE STANDARDS.
06:43:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:43:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALL I WANT TO SAY THAT THE FOLKS WHO SPOKE
06:43:44PM VIRTUALLY ARE CONTINUING TO HAVE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROBLEMS
06:43:47PM -- OR PROBLEMS WITH PARKING THAT -- TO REACH OUT TO MY
06:43:50PM OFFICE AND I AM HAPPY TO HELP.
06:43:52PM MANISCALCO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:43:54PM A MOTION TO CLOSE.
06:43:55PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:43:58PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:43:59PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:44:00PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN, READ ITEM NUMBER 7.
06:44:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAYBE COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:44:06PM YES, NEVER GET A EUCLIDIAN ZONING.
06:44:10PM ORDINANCE FOR FIRST READING, GENERAL VICINITY OF 701, 705,
06:44:18PM 801 EAST WILMA STREET IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, ZONING
06:44:21PM CLASSIFICATIONS RS-60, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY, AND CN,
06:44:26PM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO RM-18, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY
06:44:30PM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE MANISCALCO A MOTION FROM
06:44:33PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
06:44:33PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:44:35PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:44:36PM OPPOSED.
06:44:36PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
06:44:39PM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION SEPTEMBER 25, 2024, 10:00 A.M.,
06:44:46PM CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 E. KENNEDY, THIRD FLOOR, 3602.
06:44:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:44:55PM NEW BUSINESS?
06:44:56PM COUNCILMAN VIERA, NEW BUSINESS?
06:44:58PM >>LUIS VIERA: REAL QUICK IF I MAY.
06:45:05PM I HAD A COMMENDATION THAT WAS OFF PREMISE.
06:45:07PM I WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE IT FROM THE AGENDA.
06:45:10PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:45:12PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:45:13PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAD ASKED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR
06:45:21PM DEPUTY OF INVESTIGATIONS AND SUPPORT.
06:45:22PM MR. MICHAEL HUNTER ON HIS RETIREMENT AFTER 26 YEARS OF
06:45:26PM SERVICE ON THE AUGUST 22 REGULAR SESSION.
06:45:29PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:45:30PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:45:32PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:45:33PM OPPOSED?
06:45:34PM >>LUIS VIERA: ASKED BY FOLKS AT THE 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT TO
06:45:38PM GIVE A COMMENDATION NOVEMBER 21 WHERE WE APPEAR TO HAVE AN
06:45:41PM EMPTY CALENDAR FOR MR. DAVID ROLAND AS GENERAL COUNCIL TO
06:45:46PM OUR 13th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT.
06:45:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING GOING ON THE 13th JUDICIAL?
06:45:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:45:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
06:45:56PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:45:57PM OPPOSED?
06:45:58PM YES?
06:46:00PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
06:46:01PM I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE KUDOS TO SENATOR MARK RUBIO AND SENATOR
06:46:08PM RICK SCOTT -- I AM JOKING.
06:46:09PM THAT IS SELF-DEPRECATING HUMOR.
06:46:13PM WITH A COUPLE OF PEOPLE.
06:46:16PM [LAUGHTER]
06:46:17PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THAT IS IT, SIR?
06:46:21PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES.
06:46:22PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: PUBLIC COMMENT.
06:46:23PM THIS MONTH IS NATIONAL BLACK BUSINESS MONTH.
06:46:25PM AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AND SAY THAT TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT
06:46:29PM WE ARE -- WE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS MONTH.
06:46:31PM AND I JUST WANT TO PAY A SPECIAL TRIBUTE TO THOSE
06:46:36PM BLACK-OWNED BUSINESSES THAT DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF
06:46:38PM TAMPA.
06:46:38PM WE WANT TO YOU KNOW THAT WE APPRECIATE YOU.
06:46:41PM AND EVERY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THE REST OF THE MONTH, I WILL
06:46:44PM BE ACKNOWLEDGING BLACK BUSINESS MONTH.
06:46:46PM THAT'S IT.
06:46:47PM THANK YOU, CHAIR.
06:46:48PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:46:50PM I WAS GOING TO RECOGNIZE -- MANY BUSINESSES BUT SPECIFICALLY
06:46:54PM THE CDC OF EAST TAMPA AND ALL THEY CONTRIBUTE.
06:46:57PM I AM PERSONAL FRIENDS WITH QUITE A FEW INDIVIDUALS THERE.
06:47:00PM I DON'T KNOW -- I AM NOT GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A
06:47:04PM COMMENDATION OR IN THE FUTURE BUT YOU BROUGHT IT UP WITH THE
06:47:06PM MONTH OF AUGUST.
06:47:07PM I WANT TO GIVE THEM A SHOUT OUT.
06:47:09PM I WANT TO CONGRATULATE MY WIFE ON GETTING ALL As.
06:47:14PM SHE IS STUDING FOR HER MASTER'S AT FLORIDA STATE.
06:47:20PM >>LYNN HURTAK: EXCELLENT EDUCATION SCHOOL.
06:47:23PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SHE WANTS TO BE A SCHOOL COUNSELOR.
06:47:25PM GIVE HER A SHOUT OUT.
06:47:27PM IN ALL -- OFFICIAL BUSINESS, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO --
06:47:30PM FOR THE SEPTEMBER 26 WORKSHOP AGENDA FOR THE CITY STAFF TO
06:47:35PM PRESENT THE CONCEPTUAL AMENDMENTS FOR THE JULY 2024 TEXT
06:47:39PM AMENDMENT CYCLE VIA TAMPA LDC AMENDMENTS.
06:47:43PM MANUFACTURE.
06:47:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
06:47:47PM MANISCALCO -- YOU DIDN'T TELL ME MICROPHONE.
06:47:50PM IS THAT YOUR JOB?
06:47:53PM MOTION FROM CHAIRMAN MANISCALCO.
06:47:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
06:47:56PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:47:57PM OPPOSED?
06:47:58PM AYES HAVE IT.
06:47:58PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THAT'S IT.
06:48:00PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
06:48:00PM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
06:48:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU MAY HAVE THE GAVEL BACK.
06:48:04PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU, SIR.
06:48:05PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SANITIZE IT.
06:48:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANY NEW BUSINESS?
06:48:09PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE DISCUSSION THAT COUNCILMAN CARLSON
06:48:11PM BROUGHT UP AND COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK ABOUT YBOR CITY AND
06:48:15PM HALLOWEEN.
06:48:15PM WE ARE IN BUDGET SEASON.
06:48:17PM AND SOME RESOURCES.
06:48:18PM WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT PUTTING
06:48:21PM RESOURCES TO -- TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A SAFE HALLOWEEN IN
06:48:25PM YBOR CITY.
06:48:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MIGHT SUGGEST YOU TALK TO THE POLICE FIRST.
06:48:30PM LIKE JUST OFFLINE.
06:48:32PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I AM SAYING.
06:48:35PM TALK TO HIM OFF-LINE AND OF WHAT HE IS DOING.
06:48:38PM I DON'T WANT HIM TO COME HERE AND TELL US.
06:48:41PM IF THERE IS A NEED.
06:48:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MAYBE WE SHOULD ALL TALK TO HIM.
06:48:45PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ABSOLUTELY.
06:48:46PM ALL REACH OUT, BUT I GET UNCOMFORTABLE TALKING OF SAFETY
06:48:50PM PLANS.
06:48:50PM I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW WE HAVE THEM.
06:48:52PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I AM TALKING OF RESOURCES MAKING SURE THEY
06:48:54PM HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES BECAUSE AFTER OCTOBER 1.
06:48:56PM THE NEW BUDGET -- WE ARE TALKING OF A BUDGET AND TALKING OF
06:49:00PM RESOURCES TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO POLICE THE
06:49:05PM MISSION.
06:49:05PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
06:49:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S ALL.
06:49:08PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:49:09PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A FEW.
06:49:11PM I WANT TO CHANGE THE MOTION I MADE ON AUGUST 1 REGARDING A
06:49:14PM WRITTEN STAFF REPORT ON SIDEWALKS BUILT IN WITH THE IN LI EU
06:49:19PM FEES.
06:49:20PM I TALKED TO THEM AGAIN AND THEY ASKED TO HAVE THE WRITTEN
06:49:23PM REPORT CONTINUED TO JANUARY 9 TO MATCH WITH THE IN LIEU 2025
06:49:28PM AND THE SAME WITH THE SIDEWALK AND IN LIEU.
06:49:32PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHENS THAT WITH A MOTION SET FOR?
06:49:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT WAS SET FOR AUGUST 22.
06:49:37PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AUGUST 22.
06:49:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVING FROM AUGUST 22 TO -- TO JANUARY 9.
06:49:44PM I WILL PUT ON HERE WAS AUGUST 22.
06:49:46PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:49:49PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
06:49:50PM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
06:49:51PM OPPOSED?
06:49:52PM YES, MA'AM.
06:49:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: A LITTLE BIT OF A LONG ONE.
06:49:54PM WE TALKED ABOUT -- WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH MR. ROGERO
06:49:59PM DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOP.
06:50:01PM I MOVE TO HAVE STAFF PROVIDE AN IN-PERSON REPORT ON NOVEMBER
06:50:04PM 21, 2024 TO INCLUDE GENERAL FUND MAJOR REVENUE BY CATEGORY
06:50:11PM FOR THE FY-24 BUDGET, PRELIMINARY YEAR END AND THE VARIANCE
06:50:16PM OR CHANGE BETWEEN THE TWO.
06:50:17PM INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES OF REVENUE BASED ON PAGE 6
06:50:21PM OF THE FY 25 BUDGET PRESENTATION TITLED GENERAL FUND BUDGET.
06:50:26PM PROPERTY TAXES, OTHER TAXES, CHARGES FOR SERVICES AND
06:50:30PM MISCELLANEOUS REVENUES.
06:50:32PM THE REASON I WANT THIS, I WANT TO SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE
06:50:34PM BETWEEN WHAT WE PREDICTED AND WHAT ENDED UP TO SEE WHAT THE
06:50:38PM VARIANCE IS.
06:50:39PM BUT ALSO, THE -- YES, THAT WAS THE REVENUE SIDE.
06:50:45PM NOW WE ARE DOING THE EXPENSES SIDE.
06:50:47PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS.
06:50:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE SAME MOTION BECAUSE THEY GO TOGETHER AND
06:50:52PM TRAVEL TOGETHER.
06:50:52PM THE GENERAL FUND -- THINK OF WRITTEN DOWN TOO.
06:50:55PM GENERAL FUND, MAJOR EXPENDITURE BY CATEGORY FOR THE FY '24
06:51:01PM ADOPTED BUDGET AND PRELIMINARY AND VARIANCE INCLUDE THE
06:51:05PM FOLLOWING CATEGORIES OF EXPENDITURES BASED ON PAGE 7 OF
06:51:09PM THE FY '25 TITLED GENERAL FUND BALANCE, SALARY AND
06:51:14PM BENEFITS, CRA CONTRIBUTIONS, PAY GO CAPITAL FUNDING, BUDGET
06:51:18PM INCREASES UNDER THAT WERE INCREASED COSTS, INCREASED LEVEL
06:51:21PM OF SERVICE AND NEW SERVICE.
06:51:22PM THAT IS THE MOTION.
06:51:23PM MANISCALCO A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
06:51:26PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CLENDENIN.
06:51:28PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:51:29PM ANY OPPOSED?
06:51:30PM YES, MA'AM.
06:51:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HARRY HEDGES RECENTLY RETIRED FROM THE AHAC
06:51:36PM BOARD AND ACKNOWLEDGE HIS PUBLIC SERVICE BY PROVIDING HIM
06:51:39PM WITH A COMMENDATIONS.
06:51:43PM NOVEMBER 22, 2024.
06:51:45PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ABSOLUTELY.
06:51:47PM A MOTION AND A SECOND.
06:51:48PM YES, MA'AM.
06:51:49PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE LAST THING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT -- SO WE
06:51:55PM HAVE THE CONVERSATION LAST -- LAST ON MONDAY ABOUT THE
06:51:59PM POLICE IMPOUND IF A STILT.
06:52:01PM WE HAVE DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH AND I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE --
06:52:04PM HOW THIS -- HOW THIS HAS GONE FORWARD.
06:52:06PM AND WE CAN BE A PROBABLE VIED YOU WITH COPIES OF THIS.
06:52:10PM THIS STARTED IN 2022 AS A POLICE IMPOUND FACILITY AND THE
06:52:15PM PROJECT PROVIDES THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW BUILDING, ALL
06:52:18PM NECESSARY SITE IMPROVEMENTS FROM FOR THE IMPOUND LOT.
06:52:21PM A BUDGET OF $4 MILLION.
06:52:23PM NEXT YEAR, IT CHANGED.
06:52:28PM IT STILL IS CALLED THE IMPOUND FACILITY.
06:52:32PM AND THEY ADDED "AND OFFICES."
06:52:35PM PROJECT FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW BUILDING AND SITE
06:52:39PM IMPROVEMENTS OF RELOCATING THE TPB INBOUND LOT AND EXISTING
06:52:45PM BUILDING AND SITE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF RELOCATING
06:52:48PM VARIOUS TPD OFFICES AND THEN THE BUDGET INCREASES TO $8.1
06:52:53PM MILLION.
06:52:53PM ISSUE HERE IS WHAT THEY ARE TELLING US IS THAT THIS IS WHEN
06:52:58PM THEY CHANGED AND DECIDED THAT.
06:52:59PM GOING TO PUT THE FORENSICS.
06:53:02PM BUT THEY DIDN'T TELL US.
06:53:04PM THE TITLE DIDN'T CHANGE.
06:53:06PM IT JUST CHANGED TO AND OFFICES.
06:53:08PM IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WHICH ACTUALLY HAS MY
06:53:12PM NOTES ON IT.
06:53:12PM WHAT EXACTLY WILL BE HOUSED HERE AND WHERE IS THE REMAINING
06:53:16PM $3 MILLION.
06:53:16PM SO RIGHT NOW, THEY -- THEY ALLOCATE AND USED ABOUT $557
06:53:21PM MILLION.
06:53:21PM AND I UNDERLINED THE DEFINITION INCLUDES THAT VARIOUS TPD
06:53:26PM OFFICES, AGAIN.
06:53:26PM BUT THE PROJECT TITLE REMAINS RELOCATION OF TPD INBOUND
06:53:32PM FACILITY AND OFFICES.
06:53:33PM IT IS NOT AS CLEAR WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE.
06:53:35PM NEXT IS THIS YEAR.
06:53:38PM THIS YEAR UNDER -- IS ALL UNDER THE SAME ACCOUNT NUMBER,
06:53:44PM 1002121.
06:53:45PM AGAIN, THIS IS THE EXACT SAME THING.
06:53:48PM AND IT CHANGED FROM OFFICES -- OFFICE NOTICE TITLE BUT NOW
06:53:52PM SEVERAL TPD UNITS.
06:53:54PM THE MONEY HAVEN'T CHANGED HERE.
06:53:56PM THEY STILL HAVEN'T USED THE 4 MILLION.
06:53:58PM BUT NEXT IS THE ADDITIONAL PROJECT.
06:54:02PM AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS ADDED.
06:54:04PM THIS IS THE 40 MILLION PROJECT.
06:54:06PM SO NOW WE HAVE $8.5 MILLION IN THE FIRST ONE.
06:54:09PM THIS PROJECT IS NOW -- IS 1002609.
06:54:14PM AND AGAIN, I AM HAPPY TO GIVE YOU ALL COPIES OF THIS.
06:54:17PM AND THIS SAYS -- THIS PROJECT PROVIDE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION
06:54:20PM PHASE OF THE RENOVATION OF THE EXISTING 38,000-SQUARE-FOOT
06:54:24PM WAREHOUSE WITH 7500-SQUARE-FOOT ADDITION TO ACCOMMODATE THE
06:54:28PM EVIDENCE CONTROL AND FORENSICS UNIT OF THE TPD WITH PARKING
06:54:32PM LOTS AND A RETENTION POND AND DOES NOT AT ALL TALK OF THE
06:54:36PM INBOUND LOT.
06:54:37PM SO I AM -- I AM VERY CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS IS HOW WE ENDED
06:54:41PM UP WITH SEVERAL OTHER BIG PROJECTS.
06:54:43PM WE STARTED WITH THESE LITTLE THINGS.
06:54:45PM IT WAS TITLED EN BOUND FACILITIES AND NEXT TO IT WAS INBOUND
06:54:51PM FACILITY AND OFFICES AND THAT WHAT HE IS IT STAYED.
06:54:54PM IT NEVER SAID WHAT THE OFFICES ARE.
06:54:55PM WE CAN NOT BE EXPECTED TO GO THROUGH 300 CIP PROJECTS TO SEE
06:55:03PM THE FINAL -- THE FINAL DOCUMENTS.
06:55:04PM IT IS THE SCOPE OF SERVICES AGREEMENT THAT WE FOUND DATED
06:55:09PM SEPTEMBER 2022 THAT CLEARLY SAYS "RELOCATION OF THE TAMPA
06:55:16PM POLICE DEPARTMENT INBOUND LOT EVIDENCE CONTROL SECTION AND
06:55:20PM FORENSIC UNITS TO THE EXISTING SITE AT THESE TWO ADDRESSES."
06:55:24PM SO THIS HAS BEEN PLANNED SINCE 2022.
06:55:27PM AND SIMPLY HAS NOT BEEN IN THE CIP AS -- AS -- IN THE
06:55:32PM DESCRIPTION.
06:55:32PM AND THIS IS MY CONCERN.
06:55:33PM SO MY MOTION IS TO HAVE AN IN-PERSON STAFF REPORT AT THE
06:55:38PM OPERATIONAL BUDGET WORKSHOP ON AUGUST 19 WITH A DETAILED
06:55:42PM TIMELINE FROM FY '21 TO PRESENT FOR THE TPD ANNEX SLASH
06:55:49PM IMPOUND PROJECT ITEMS 1002, 1021.
06:55:54PM ASSOCIATED WITH ADDRESSES 505 NORTH HOWARD AVENUE AND 5112
06:56:00PM NORTH ALBANY AVENUE WHICH SHOULD INCLUDE PURCHASE DOCUMENTS
06:56:04PM INCLUDING A SITE PLAN, ANY BUDGET AMOUNTS, ANY RFQs, SCOPES
06:56:11PM OF SERVICE AND FINANCIAL COMMITMENTS.
06:56:12PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IS THERE A SECOND?
06:56:15PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE IS A SECOND.
06:56:16PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
06:56:18PM ALL IN FAVOR.
06:56:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WHAT I WANT TO SAY, THIS DOESN'T REFLECT
06:56:23PM OUR TRUE FIVE-YEAR PLAN AND THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR
06:56:26PM YOU TO FIX.
06:56:27PM I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN HONEST CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND
06:56:30PM HOW WE GO FORWARD.
06:56:31PM BECAUSE WHAT THIS IS TELLING US AND WHAT THIS IS EVIDENCE
06:56:34PM OF, ANY SMALL PROJECT, ANY PROJECT, WITH GO FROM SMALL TO 40
06:56:38PM MILLION WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE.
06:56:40PM THIS IS WHAT THE PUBLIC IS SAYING THEY DON'T WANT.
06:56:42PM THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT -- AND SO -- YEAH, I -- EXACTLY.
06:56:48PM IT HAPPENED WITH MAN IN AVENUE.
06:56:51PM AND WE -- WE HAVE ALL DESPERATELY -- AND THE RIVERWALK.
06:56:56PM SO WE HAVE ALL DESPERATELY ASKING FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY.
06:57:00PM BUT THIS IS NOT TRANSPARENT.
06:57:03PM THIS IS NOT A TRANSPARENT WAY OF GOING FORWARD.
06:57:05PM SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT THE
06:57:09PM WORKSHOP OF HOW WE CAN DO THIS GOING FORWARD.
06:57:10PM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD YOU -- MR. CHAIR?
06:57:14PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YES, SIR.
06:57:15PM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD YOU MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION TO ADDRESS
06:57:18PM THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE.
06:57:19PM BECAUSE IT IS JUST A CASE STUDY.
06:57:21PM AS YOU SAID THERE ARE ALL THESE OTHER PROJECTS.
06:57:23PM AND WHAT THIS IS POINTING OUT IS THAT SOMEBODY MADE THE
06:57:27PM DECISION NOT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH US OR THE PUBLIC.
06:57:30PM AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE.
06:57:32PM AND GOING BACKWARDS, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN MAN IN AVENUE -- I
06:57:39PM WON'T BRING ALL THAT UP AGAIN.
06:57:41PM THERE ARE SO MANY BAD THINGS THERE.
06:57:43PM >> THAT'S WHAT -- I WANT TO -- I WANT US TO HAVE A
06:57:46PM CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
06:57:47PM AND I THINK SHOWING -- HAVING A TIMELINE FIRST.
06:57:50PM US HAVING A CONVERSATION AND MAKE MOTIONS.
06:57:53PM AND WHICH APPARENTLY WE CAN MAKE MOTIONS DURING WORKSHOPS.
06:57:59PM THAT WAS A MISTAKE ON OUR PART.
06:58:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WANT DO OVER.
06:58:03PM >>LYNN HURTAK: HURTAK I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE SHOULD HAVE
06:58:08PM THAT CONVERSATION AFTER WE HAVE THIS.
06:58:09PM I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO STAY TONIGHT TO HAVE THIS
06:58:12PM CONVERSATION.
06:58:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU WANT TO SET ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM AFTER
06:58:15PM THAT TO TALK OF THE SYSTEMIC ISSUE --
06:58:18PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WAIT FOR THIS FIRST.
06:58:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: VOTE FOR THIS FIRST.
06:58:21PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I HAVE A QUESTION.
06:58:22PM ON THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU DISCLOSED.
06:58:25PM EACH YEAR, WHAT WAS THE PRICE TAG?
06:58:28PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE SHOW IT.
06:58:29PM KELLY, SHOW IT AGAIN.
06:58:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT WAS DIFFICULT TO READ.
06:58:33PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WILL PROVIDE -- YES, SHE IS GOING TO MAKE
06:58:36PM THEM RIGHT IN THE MOMENT.
06:58:37PM BUT INITIALLY IT STARTED AT -- IT STARTED WITH FY '22 WHICH
06:58:47PM WAS $2.6 MILLION.
06:58:51PM THEN WENT TO THE NEXT YEAR IN FY '23 TO $5.2 MILLION FOR A
06:58:58PM TOTAL OF $8.1 MILLION.
06:59:00PM THEN WENT TO $8.248 IN FY '24.
06:59:06PM STAYED 8.5 IN 2025, AND ADDED 40 MILLION TO THE OTHER.
06:59:11PM WE ARE LOOKING AT $48.5 MILLION.
06:59:15PM I TALKED TO AT THE DEPUTY CHIEF KATE, AND SHE SAID THEY INTEND
06:59:19PM TO KEEP IT AT $45 MILLION.
06:59:21PM I WANT THEM TO TELL US THAT.
06:59:23PM I DOESN'T TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION SECONDHAND.
06:59:26PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ALL IN FAVOR.
06:59:28PM ANYTHING ELSE?
06:59:29PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT.
06:59:31PM AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO ASK FOR
06:59:34PM THAT.
06:59:34PM SO I AM STILL WORK ON THIS MOTION.
06:59:36PM IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT -- BUT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS
06:59:43PM -- WE HAVE TO THINK FORWARD ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO HOW WE
06:59:52PM ARE GOING TO COMBAT THIS.
06:59:53PM I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS REQUIRING PROJECT TITLES TO MATCH BY A
06:59:57PM CERTAIN DATE.
06:59:58PM I HAVE GOT THROUGH ALL SORTS OF THINGS BUT I THINK WE NEED
07:00:01PM TO TALK ABOUT IT AS A GROUP.
07:00:06PM AGAIN, I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE COPIES AND SOMETHING THAT I
07:00:09PM THINK WE CAN TALK ABOUT ON MONDAY.
07:00:10PM >> THIS IS FANTASTIC BACKGROUND.
07:00:12PM THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
07:00:14PM THE OTHER THING YOU DIDN'T DO IS SPECIFY WHO SHOULD COME
07:00:18PM SPEAK.
07:00:18PM I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE TPD SPEAKING ON THIS BUT
07:00:22PM FACILITIES AND CHIEF OF STAFF AND/OR CFO.
07:00:27PM IF IT IS TPD, DISCUSSION WHETHER THEY NEED IT OR NOT.
07:00:31PM THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE.
07:00:33PM THE ISSUE IS, WHY WASN'T IT DISCLOSED TO THE PUBLIC EARLIER
07:00:37PM AND HOW THE PRICE CASE SLATED JUST LIKE THESE OTHER
07:00:39PM PROJECTS.
07:00:40PM WILL.
07:00:44PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: IS A BUDGET SPECIAL CALLED WORKSHOP.
07:00:49PM >> THIS IS WHY -- YOU ARE ADDING IT TO THE AGENDA AND GIVING
07:00:51PM ENOUGH NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC.
07:00:53PM THAT IS THE OPERATING BUDGET.
07:00:55PM THIS WILL BE SEPARATE BUT ON THE AGENDA BUDGET RELATED
07:00:58PM BECAUSE THIS IS BUDGET MOVING FORWARD.
07:01:01PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
07:01:02PM I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AS WELL AND THE REASON I SAID "STAFF"
07:01:05PM BECAUSE I WANT IT TO BE THE STAFF THAT IS WORKING ON IT.
07:01:07PM BUT I WILL SPECIFY FACILITIES AND BUDGET STAFF.
07:01:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE OF LEADERSHIP.
07:01:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE RIGHT.
07:01:15PM FACILITIES AND BUDGET STATUTE REPORT.
07:01:17PM BECAUSE THIS IS NOT -- YOU ARE CORRECT.
07:01:19PM THIS IS A FACILITIES ISSUE.
07:01:21PM AND, BY THE WAY, THE POLICE IMPOUND FACILITY IS UNDER
07:01:25PM FACILITIES.
07:01:26PM THE NEW ONE IS UNDER POLICE.
07:01:29PM SO THAT -- THERE ARE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS TOO.
07:01:32PM SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE IS WHY IS IT TWO DIFFERENT
07:01:36PM PROJECTS AND WHY WE HAVEN'T COMBINED THEM TO ONE NUMBER.
07:01:38PM AND -- I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY THANK MISS SHARP AND
07:01:49PM MISS KAPESKI FOR HELPING ME WITH THIS.
07:01:51PM THEY DID A LOT OF WORK IN THIS AS WELL.
07:01:53PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:01:56PM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
07:01:58PM HENDERSON NOTION RECEIVE AND FILE.
07:02:00PM SHELBY BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING WITH RESPONSE TO COUNCILMAN
07:02:06PM VIERA'S MOTION FOR THE CONDEMNATION ON AUGUST 22.
07:02:09PM YOUR NEW RULES STATE THAT A MAXIMUM OF ONE IN-PERSON
07:02:14PM COMMENDATION FOR OTHER THAN POLICE, FIRE AND ATU SET FOR
07:02:18PM EACH REGULAR MEETING.
07:02:19PM YOU PREVIOUSLY HAVE ONE COMMENDATION SET UP AND WILL REQUIRE
07:02:23PM A WAIVER OF YOUR RULES.
07:02:24PM >>LUIS VIERA: IS THAT -- I AM SORRY, DID WE --.SHELBY JUST
07:02:47PM REQUIRES A WAIVER OF THE RULES.
07:02:48PM >>LUIS VIERA: MAY I, MR. CHAIR?
07:02:52PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SURE.
07:02:53PM >>LUIS VIERA: I TOOK THAT OFF.
07:02:55PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE PRESENTATION OF COMMENDATION?
07:02:59PM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, I ALREADY DID THAT SHELBY WHAT ABOUT THE
07:03:02PM RICHARD FORMICA?
07:03:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: OH, I DID NOT SEE THAT.
07:03:08PM OUR RULES IS WE CAN ONLY HAVE ONE IN-PERSON OF COMMENDATION.
07:03:15PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PER MEETING IF IT IS NOT RELATED TO POLICE,
07:03:19PM FIRE AND ATU UNIONS.
07:03:23PM THESE ARE THE NEW RULES.
07:03:25PM >>LUIS VIERA: WE WANT TO FOLLOW THE RULES.
07:03:27PM I WAS ASKED TO DO THIS COUNCIL APPARENTLY ON THIS DATE.
07:03:30PM IT IS HIS RETIREMENT CELEBRATION SO THEY WANT IT IN COUNCIL.
07:03:34PM SHOULDN'T TAKE MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES.
07:03:35PM I WILL MAKE THE MOTION OBVIOUSLY.
07:03:42PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOTION WAIVE THE RULES.
07:03:46PM >>BILL CARLSON: SECOND.
07:03:47PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOTION.
07:03:49PM ANY OPPOSED.
07:03:51PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: NAY.
07:03:53PM >>CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH HURTAK AND HENDERSON VOTING NO.
07:04:01PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: WE JUST MADE THE RULES.
07:04:04PM >>LUIS VIERA: I WILL TELL HIM --
07:04:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON.
07:04:12PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: ONE MORE THING.
07:04:15PM SPECIAL PRIVILEGE.
07:04:16PM MY NIECE WALKED IN AND HER ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER FRESHMAN
07:04:20PM GETTING READY TO GO OFF TO COLLEGE.
07:04:22PM LILLIAN, I WITH A TONIGHT SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU HEADED
07:04:25PM TO ALBANY STATE UNIVERSITY IN ALBANY, GEORGIA.
07:04:29PM SO YOU WALKED IN HERE.
07:04:30PM I GUESS YOU -- YOU OBVIOUSLY WANTED ME TO DO THAT.
07:04:33PM GO TO THE POE PODIUM.
07:04:35PM TELL US WHERE YOU ARE GOING.
07:04:36PM WHAT YOU ARE MAJORING IN.
07:04:38PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOUR NAME.
07:04:40PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.
07:04:41PM >> MY NAME IS LILLIAN STREET.
07:04:43PM AND I AM GOING TO ALBANY STATE UNIVERSITY IN GEORGIA FOR
07:04:46PM NURSING.
07:04:47PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: FOR NURSING.
07:04:48PM GOOD LUCK TO YOU.
07:04:50PM >> THANK YOU.
07:04:51PM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
07:04:52PM >>GWEN HENDERSON: RECEIVE AND FILE.
07:04:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC
07:04:56PM SPEAKING.
07:04:56PM SO GET USED TO THIS.
07:04:58PM A LOT OF PUBLIC SPEAKING IN NURSING SCHOOL.
07:05:00PM HENDERSON A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
07:05:03PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: BEFORE YOU DO THAT.
07:05:04PM WHAT HAPPENED IS -- I APOLOGIES FOR COUNCIL NOT INFORMING
07:05:09PM YOU -- TO REMINDS YOU THAT WAIVER OF RULES REQUIRE A
07:05:14PM SUPERMAJORITY AND THE UNDERLYING MOTION THAT YOU HAVE
07:05:17PM PREVIOUSLY IS STILL THERE.
07:05:22PM IN OTHER WORDS, TO ADD IT.
07:05:26PM >>LUIS VIERA: BY THE WAY -- THAT WAS A SEPARATE MOTION.
07:05:28PM BY THE WAY, I CAN PROBABLY DO IT AT HIS CEREMONY.
07:05:31PM THAT IS FINE.
07:05:32PM THEY JUST REQUESTED -- I AM TEXTING SOMEBODY RIGHT NOW
07:05:35PM ASKING IF I COULD MAKE AT HIS CEREMONY CLENDENIN MAKE THAT
07:05:39PM MOTION AND THEN AMEND IT IF YOU HAVE TO.
07:05:43PM MAKE THE MOTION FOR OFF-SITE.
07:05:45PM >>LUIS VIERA: LET ME RIGHT NOW -- I WILL JUST DO THE MOTION
07:05:49PM NEXT WEEK.
07:05:49PM LET ME SO I DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TWICE.
07:05:51PM I WILL SEE WHEN I AM GOING TO DO IT.
07:05:54PM I AM SURE IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL.
07:05:56PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THE MOTION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE AND
07:05:58PM PASSED.
07:05:59PM IT IS ALREADY DONE.
07:06:01PM >>LUIS VIERA: THEN ACCORDING TO THAT THEN, MY MOTION FOR THE
07:06:07PM COMMENDATION ON AUGUST 22.
07:06:08PM SEE IF WE CAN KNIT OTHER STATE AND DO IT OFF-SITE.
07:06:12PM MANISCALCO A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
07:06:14PM SECONDED FROM COUNCILMAN.
07:06:16PM A MOTION AND SECOND.
07:06:19PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
07:06:21PM WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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